The Sun. — London, England, 1819-11-24 00:00:00

THEATRICAL REGISTER. Performed Last Nigiit. THEATRE. ROYAL, DRURT-LANE.—.Tbe Deril's Bridge; Count • Belino, Mr. Braham ; Countess Rosalvina, Miss Carew. After which, Bon Ton. TUEATRE• ROYAL, COVENT-GARDEN.--Guy Mannering; Henry Bertram,. Mr. Duruset ; Lucy Bertram, Miss Stephens. After which (Third time), A Short Reign and a Merry One. TO CORRESPONDE I •ITS. TENAX, and other Favours, are unavoidably postponed. PRICE 0 STOCKS O'CLOCK. THIS DAY AT T' 3 per Cent. Red. .. G 6; 67M 3 per Cent. Cons r i ; Gs 3a per (.:nt 4 per Cents. 5 per Ct. Nary Ann I C3i 104141 Bank Lung Ann. lid 9-16ths' Inn,. 3 per Cent. Ann... 65i fndia Bonds ss. Cs. pr. Exch. Bills, Rd is. 4s. dl,. Cons. fur Account .. eiii 68 ivlAl L 5. ARnivxo—iGottenburgh. Due-1 Waterford, 2 Lisbon, 2 Hanthurgh. HIGH WATER. AT LONDON BRIDGE TO •M ORROW. Morning, 42 minutes after 8. 1 Evening, 46 minutes after 8. THE SUN. SOLEM QVIS DICERE FALSILIVI A UDEAT LONDON WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 1819. The space occupied by Parliamentary Debates, in our Paper this day, precludes any observations that we might be disposed to offer to our Readers ; but, indeed, as the subjects introduced undeuttent so ample a discussion, any opinions which we might suggest are therefore unnecessary, and might be deemed officious. We have, however, the satis faction to state, and we are persuaded our Readers will agree with us, that Government has fully vindicated its conduct relative to the Manchester transactions. Argument and fact were obviously on the side of Government, and Declamation and Party zeal as obviously on the side of their Oppo- Pailiatnent which had been called for. Ile was silt,: that the House would go along with him in fetliog that extraordinary delicacy oo4ht to touchili g opori any topic connected with the legal proceedings crowing oft of the events at Manchester. The Eloise would not sho much charity to them, (the Manchester Magistrats) in believing this before a tittle ot t,att beet' produced against them, as had it Iteeot heir purpose to no that which had been done, w,tv 1:c might ask did they not do it on the 9th of A nv i s r, i n ste a d of the lilth when the Meeting solidi took place was avowedly illegal, instead of waiting till a Meeting was collet! that was not ilk.. gui, hut which might by circumstances become Rut he would state that- tit , . Manchester la4istrates had no such intentiOn. It was not till, trout particular circumstances, the meeting al luded to bad become illegal, that they thought of interferiog with the crowd. The meeting being ascertained to he of a treasonable natore, it was their duty to pot an end to it, and he must protest that would, tinder such ciresitnsta nces, restrain the arm of the law trombeiug put forth to prevent; as well as to suppress disorder, He had thought it his ditty to state this mach in vindication of the Magistrates. He would go on to say, that the meeting being illegal, they would have been cul pable had they not dispersed it, after the caption of Mr. Hunt had been effemed. It was, how. ever, the wish of the Magiitrates to disperse the mceting with all possible mildness, and complying. With allthe pi or isions of the Riot Act . Tie Riot Act, before any attempt had !teen made to disperse the crowd, was read out of the window of the room ju which the Magistrates were assembled. This, it might be said was not sAieient. • More was done. A Magistrate went to read it among the crowd, and that Magistrate was trodden tinder foot by them.—(Hear, hear, hear.)—But the pre cautions taken did not end thete. A third Ma gistrate went into tile troll with the Riot Act on his arm, that every pet son in the held might know that it bad been read. It no timber precantitins were taken, it was nor to he too charitable towatds the. Magistrates to believe that more was not in their power. The onfortiwatc cecr;s that fol lowed were occasion,d, nor by the cruelty of the sgistratt butt qty the circionstance of the troops, ar the moment of the canttire, lently attacked by an armed mob.—(Hear, hear, bear, and some murmurs.).—lle could of course -only pledge himself, that that which he had stated was his own belief. From the evidence given before the Coroner's Inquest, it was clear that the transactions in qm.stion did not occupy more than five minutes, and tbtlt in a (part er of an hour from the time Hunt made his appearance, the whole .nosiness was terminated, and the rnecting ,completely dispersed Was i fit that at that too mot the inqui.irorial powers of that 11 , orse should be called forth to eocrtire into these twit ters, and silt them tc the bottom ? Ele htmlr called the multitude an armed mob. He was justified in doing so. They came armed with stones and ether missiles, and various weapons. The day hi fore the meeting tlok pl acs. .every stone was picked tip on the place of meeting' that could harm the. bureau form, and on the day which followed the 16th, two cart-loads of stones were found on St. Pettr's-field. He believed no step had been taken but what the parties believed to be sane tiotted by, and nothing done against the crowd wl:ich was not justified by, the necessity of the Sucl, - was his opin;,) , l, and h , -lieving that the M:rgistrates trail acted witli the beit possilde iritentions, he would ask whether, at this mo ment, it would become that Himse to enter into an inpiry, And in doing so, to draw upon itself the odium of h.tving unnecessarily in terfered with the administration of justice.— The Magistrates, and those wiva were accused, itad all been ready to go to trial in every case, Wh o were the parjes that refuied to hrtng the matter before a Court of Justice ? They ,ere those %%ho were supposed to be aggrieved. It did not suit them to go to trial at once, and they thought pro per to let the matter stand over to the next Sluing Assizes. Several Indictments had, it is true, bet!) preferred against certain tnemhers of the Yen utanry Corps, but the Grand Jury, in the dis charge of their duty (and the Grand Juries were in no part of the country more distinguished tor respectability than in Lancashire), had found that the Meeting was illegal, and had I,ltrovin out the . bills: As far as the charge of murder had been pre ferred against the Yeomanry Corps, here was a D , -gative put on it by one Grand Jury. Bat suppose the bills had been found !—This would have de cided nothing. Outrages and murders even might have been proved against individuals, and stdl this would have had nothing to do with the main- citietioy—nothing to do With the conduct of the officer 3 and Magistrates of Manchester. Why, if they believed their cause a good one, had not bills been preferred against the Officers and Ma gistrates ? This was the course pursued in 1768. .A bill was then found against the Commanding Officer, though he was afterwards acquitted. The 16 ; :ht Hon. Gtntlernan had asked, how were poor aggrieved individuals to gain redress from a body of Magistrates ?, Why, he would _answer, that as they had found out a way to ,try the Yeo- In.ury, they might have found out with.equal ease a way to proceed against the Officers and Magistrates, had they had reason,'or thought they irad reason for doing so. They would have taken tit* course he had mentioned, it justice, and not inflammation and deception, had been their oh. ject, and have prosecuted the Magistrates and Officers instead of the Soldiers, as this would not have Cost them one shilling mute than the course which they had thought proper to pursue. Ex pense, however, could be expected to throw no obstacle in the way of prosecuting, as the 2,0001. said to be subsCribed for the purpose, if honestly applicd, would have been more than sufficient to meet the expense of all the prosecutions. The Grand Jury bad been most audaciously maligned our of doors, for throwing out the bills which bad been preferred:against the Yeomanry. 'Notwith stauding the fate of these hills, the parties wishing to prosecute might . , by a criminal information in the Court of King's Bench, have been enabled to bring the whole case as fully before the . Court on affidavit, as it could have been brought by u trial for murder. That under such circum stances that • House should he called upon to institute an inquiry while proceedings-were pend ine—that without power to adetinister au oath, they should use their iequisitorial powers to male persons called before them disclose their cases pre vioes to their gone. ; into a Court of Justice, was sr propoiition so monstrous, that it could only he eniet canted for the purpwie of delusion, to which he was sorry to see the Right lion. Gentleman and some of his fliends had lent themselves so largely.—(Hear, hear, bear !)—He was surprised that men of sense could act such a part, and lie wes astonished the high' flunoureble Gentle me:), sertounded Lvertied G en tl em e o , s he u ld h a v e a d vance d I s o m rmi t mg then) to delliand t h at Which tvitS in i selt se monstrous, that had he not witnessed it, he won't) not hav e beli e v e d that ,the Right Hon. Gentleman could he so entrapped iota forgetfolues of his Parliamentary ditties, or so ready to lend him•elt to those whose obret teas tension.—(ilear, hear, hear!)—Leery Mau who lead been removed by violence, and still more, every man who had sustained injury, might enter an aesion ti he pleased, which would bring the whole merits of the case before a Court of Justice, and yet a Veiliamentary impiry was thought accessary.--Nothing - could be more in jurious to the confilence reposed, in that H•itese than the course which the Right Hon. Gentle menee isbed them to take, unles•, as he had said, • they were .to :sake upoli themselves to be the executioners of the Mrgistrates—(Hear, bear !) He. would not e iall into the trap . which had been • laid to ing that ilonse into contempt. On the pert of Ministers he denied all wish to screen the Magir rates from justice, and lie was sure, if they wished to injure them, it was only necessary for i the Ministers to declare in their favour. Every t . one must be sensible that they would not fare the butter tor having been applauded by Government. The Megietrates,of the country had been treated with mote illiberality than had been displayed in any case that had ever come to his knowledge. i if th e o r thmiou of the Government bad been foetid. ed on false reports or erroneous views, then he would admit that it would be incumbent on them to recall the opinion which they had given. When Lord Fit zwilliam went to the meeting at York, on the principles on which office is held, be must have been understood as 'tendering his resigota tion.—(Heer, hear, hear 1)—It was out required .thet the persons connected with the Admiuistra then should agree in all political opinions ; but, in a case of mere police, to attribute sanguinity intentions to the Government, was to dissolve all bonds of mutual cottfidenee and union ; and it co u ld not be expected that Ministers should have :Itimmitted and acquiesced in the charge lay remain ing inactive on the subject. No conduct could beless calculated for the peace of t hecountry, the integrity ' of t lieConstitution,and the good of t he people,than that of Lord Fitzwilliam on that occasion. All the circumstances atteediog time meeting were cal culated to lay the laws and the Constitution of the country at the feet of that seditious body.— (I,ond anti repeated cheers.)--He desired to • know whether those persons who had called the meeting bad not prepared measures in concert with the Radicals, with a view to impugn the Alanchester Magistrates, instead of accepting time offers of a respectable party, who expressed them selves ready to join io a call for enquiry on these two conditions : that time Meeting should recog. ; wee the real state of time country, and should acknowledge anti declare its loyalty, and the tie crssity of supporting the State.—(clear, hear!) — But this afforded another tnelanceoly proof bow r eat uteri were injured by associating with bad compaity. They had proposed a coalition with the Radicals, and rejected the conditions propos ed by a most respectable body ! The result of a meeting of twenty thousand people in arms was to e Lord Vif zwilliem in the extraordinary situ ation of a Yotkshire Reformer !—(Hear, hear.) — Nay, he had closed the proceedings of th a t Meetioe by a vote of thanks to the high Sheriff for braving called it in the manlier describes! I Never lied the King's Commission of Lord Lieutenant been so much disgraced in the eyes of . the country--(Hear, hear !)—then when Lord haul appeared with IVooler by his side, returning thanks for heving been allowed to join the Radicals in their views towards Govern ment. It was the deepest degradation to the King's Commission for its holder to have been placed at a meeting where no one, not even the Honour able Member, for the County, had any chance of obt a i shag an hearing, except through the inter ference of the Radicals. He would not disguise that when Lord Fitzwilliam disclosed such opi nions, he destroyed all confidence between hint aed the Government. He (Lord Castlereagh) asked the House, whether by speeches which could be turned to such purposes, the authors of the Yorkshire Meeting had not placed themselves in the hands of the Radicals ? He believed the large body of the people to be loyal, and only to require the fostering hand of Parliament to restore its natural dispositions to good order and peace. But he could not conceal that a deliberate conspiracy was carried on by nu merous agents ; and that unless Parliament - should . meet the case.with time vigour which it required, it ten:ll(l'lre impossible to say that the whole might not end in a scene of plunder, rapine, and blood, similar to those which bad taken place in neigh bouring countries. He trusted, however, that with the aid of Parliament, the laws Would tri uruph,at no long distance of time ; loyalty would revive in all its force, and the British Constitu tion would remain a monument of glory and of wisdom, shedding its blessiegs to the remotest posterity.—(Repeated cheers.) Mr. BOOTLE WILBRAHAM said, that as one of time Grand Jurors who ignored the bills presented against the Manchester Yeomen, he might be al lowed to say a word. He hoped it would appear, that so far from having acted improperly, they had only done their duty. It WAS clear that the meeting at Manchester was attended by persons for the purpose (if plunder. Lord Mur-oft entered into an explanation with regard to time arrangements of the Yorkshire Meet ing, and endeavoured to justify the motives which induced him to separate himself front the party to which Mr. S. IVortley and several Gentlemen in the_same county attached themselves. The Noble Lord supported the amendment. Mr. S. IVORTLEY admitted, that be bad been willing to accede to an inquiry into the. transac tions at Manchester. Lie made some further re marks in justification of the part he took at York. He again admitted the necessity of en• quiry, bin not at the bar of that House. He thought it should be entirely confined to the pro per Courts. He thought examinations entered into at the bar of that House were calculated ►o injure its character. lie then adverted to the late affair at Coventry, and thought that the present subject could be disposed of in the same way as that had been. After some further observations, he concluded by giving his support to the original Address. Sir JAMES MACKINTOSH ITTg(IC rs long 810 elo quent speech, in the coruse of whit it he contend ed that the circumstances at Manchester, and the feelings of the country, as well as the sense of honour dtie to the Constitution, demanded a Par liamentary inquiry. He condemned in strong terms the condnet of Ministers, and reprobated the dismissal of Lord Fitztvilliat»,as in the highest degree unwise, impolitic, and indecent. Mr PLUNKETT said it was difficult for him to bring an impartial judgment to any case where in an individual, whom he so highly vene rated as be did Earl Fitzwilliam, was a party, but he would take it upon him to say, that when Government • had taken from him the ,official rank which he held, they certainly' did not intend to convey to him a mark of per sonal disrespect. He said lie thought the House might fairly complain of , the manner in which the present question had been brought by the Honourable' Gentleman who put forward the amendment. They were told ham the Throne, that treasonable conspiracies were on foot, and yet his friends had argued the question as if that information had pointed at bona fidelle , formers,- , -for those who had none but Consti tutional views, and who wished, however mistaken their means might be to amend the Constitution, he had no feelings of hostility, such men ought to be met with reasoning when wrong, and con cession when right. But there was a party in the Stare which had very different views from those of reforming this constitution, or of esta blishing any other. Anarchy and plunder were their object, and not to change one regular go vernment for another. Meetings, he said bad been convened for doing that which, if it had been carried into effect, would have been high treason, and the mountebank :who conducted them had assisted at the orgies of the'criminal just convict ed of blasphemy. Thus, he said, the connexion between treason and blasphemy was shown. He had not the slightest doubt in his own mind, but that the meeting at Manchester was illegal. He concluded by giving his hearty concurrence to the Address.—(Much cheering !) Mr. SCARLaTT supported the Amendment. The ATTORNEY-GBNEiRAL proved the illegality of the meeting at Manchester, and that the civil power not being able to execute the warrants, the Magistrates were perfectly justified in calling in the armed force. Sir \V, Da CRESPIGNY expressed a hope, that the House would adjourn the Debate ; and moved accordingly, that further debate on this question be adjourned to this day. Sir It. WILSON seconded the Motion ; and Mr. M.:l. TAyLoa supported it. Lord CASTLEREAGH said, there was no prece dent for adjournment of the House, without coin ing to a determination upon an Address.—They divided on the question— • Ayes 65 Noes Against adjourning -388. Upon strangers being re-admitted to the Gal lery, Mr. WILBBIIFOI4CII was nn his legs, defend ing the conduct of tile 'Manchester Magistracy, and deprecating, with much feeling, the progiess of irreligion. It was a misnomer, he contended, to maintain that they were attacking opinion, . Mr. Hums rose again to move an adjournment of the House ; upon which strangers were or dered to withdraw ; but although much discus sion followed amongst the Members, no second division was come to. Messrs. Tierney, Hume, W. Smith, Bennet,, and others, bore part in this discussion. At length, at Half-past Three o'Clock, the House adjourned. vents. We trust that the support which Minister/ received last night, will col,fii-in them in a regoi uts adoption of those measures of safety which 11)• existence of the Monarchy ah,olute'y dent4l"l6 As The Morning Chronicle is the Leading ?lie! ° i the Parties hostile to Government, n ow aiding the Degenerate Whigs and the Subverting Radical" w: deem it our duty to extract the folloWing pass B g e from that Paper of to-day, on which we shall odor no comment, as it will sufficiently pot thc Public on its guard, and skew what degree .of justice, truth, and candour, may be el ' pected from that J ourna l i n canvassing those measures which Government, and the refl ect ' ing men of all Parties may deem necessary t° preserve the very existence of our present La thv blishment in Church and State. " The Speech from the Throne, as was anticipated, 01 enough to prepare us for measures of the most alarming riV ture. By inviting the two Houses to take such steps as Ins l l lead to the suppression of the practices which his -ILoi s Highness is made to deplore (namely, we presume , thc Public Meetings for the complaint of grievances, a nd Pe ll' tions for redress), the ground is laid for acts of restricti°ol irreconcileable with" the ancient rights of the People/ s more likely to drive them to desp a ir th an t o res tore 061° reason." .—..„—. New York Papers arrived this morning t° tho 20th ult. (From a s Paper of Me 2d ult.) 1 . FllifitV4heatatii, MAI Ikl.—By the IWO'S. fl •;flt-- • this port of briettipnomene, in 18 days froo Curacoa, we letirthkipt BOLIVAR was within 3f 4 (lays march of Clirracas, and that many of tb° inhabitants were rallying under his standard.' /114 also learn that the lsl.nd of Margaretta wa s bloc i ; aded by a Spanish squadron of 10 s a il, 1 11°S1 ' 'small vessels. CAPTURE OF SANTA Fs.--His Britannic g; jesty's brig Beaver, from C art h agena , a rrived g Boston on the Ist September ; by her official ie . formation wag received of the capture of the above Capital. g The Baltimore Board of Health reports 3 de ° in 24 hours, ending ou .Friday morning. IMPORTANT.—A Gentleman, immediately ( 0 0 e New Orleans, states that, previous to his lea that City, the Agent of a Company of Swio the chants arrived there from Europe, bearing v Official Transfer from the Spanish Monarch of t he whole Province of Texas to his employers. tbrs Swiss purchasers are required to settle i° country immediately, to acknowledge He'll so his Catholic Majesty, but to be in every oth er f sheet at liberty to form their o w n go vernin g°ro laws, &c. The Paris Papers of Sunday last, which Or' due this morning, have not arrived. A s o, The Radical Meeting in Smithfield this was, like the former, very thinly attended• nef . tween 12 and 1 o'clock not more than 20 0 r i out sons, entirely of the lowest orders, were assell3 and no Orator had then arrived. 01 4 Between one and two about 1000 persons collected, and Watson was left addressing t' h e mounted on a sheep pen. yor l6 We find that the ship Hercules, fronaNew which arrived at Liverpool on Sunday, has br° ll ' lo hack WILLIAM COBBETT. We should n° l 1111 nor thought, it necessary to notice more than the t t b f fact of his arrival, it we did not think th e 11 0 ' ominous return of that man strongly indic ate s a l° conviction that a RETOLUTION is near " s e evitahle, and we trust that the ATTortst,T' Lls . e o ptic ,RAL wifl zealously watch, and . resolutely °- • 11 011 whatever may issue front his pen tending t° lead the People and undermine the Governole" morn ing COURT OF KING'S BENCH — This morn--1-1 ofi MARRYATT moved that Mrs. Carlile be cal;egoitb to plead to an indictment, charging be, r , tiubiishing a saitions libel, designated, 0 0 Lock Trial of Richard Carlile ;" 1)10 s he d igES allowed during the day to consider of its , the Court. His Royal Highness the Duke of I° ll- 0 0 0 nomed the Earl and Countess of 131.0s! 1 '' I rper ° with Lis company at Dinner on Monday• were present the Marquess of LstisnowsPYgr, EDWARD BAKER, Sir HENRY TORlOU q9 ' i fill DRUMMOND BURRELL, Cal. COOKE, Mr' q 1 Mr. PowELL, &C. 0 0 vntea - The Corporation of Rochester, have hoesci freedom of th e ir a n c ie n t City to his Royal the Duke of CLARENCE, Earl DAntl"nic o CLIFTON, the Hon. Mr. BLIGH, Sir J O "' and Sir ROBERT BARLOW. Fro thi LONDON GAZETTE of JOI BANKRUPTS. William - Nedby, Lamb's Conduit-street, ppholsterer. William Suffield, Birmingham, printer. Richard Merry, Birmingham, grocer. Francis Reed, Bristol, butcher. James Nuttall, Manchester, bookseller. ub Whi r. William Tabraw, Fendrayton, Cambridgeshire, ~ i i James Hartley, Manchester, warehouseman . Samuel Perkins, Milford, Somerset, dealer. _ te r, Or ' Samuel Davenport and Robert Fayle, vers to calico-printers. g rocer' , Thomas Thompson, Lancaster, immong,er en d . „..rier William Peagam, jun. Plymouth, tailor. ,„,,i Ana b' William Cronin, Snows-fields, BermondseP c" - / c provision dealer. _____---- -- 0/ 0" .....•,-.C.,-.1 - - - - fO . 29 ' si , ,t /' LONDON: Printed by J. B. 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