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,con.;tuaces required, and :o mci't - z, "for 'cis a thanks and gratitude of all classes. Ii a Okelt•tioll was called in question for ordering 'the execution of the wart ant against Mr.l-13rrison, while addressing the multitude. Ile doubted whe ther, by it was not compulsory upon him to do so, and whether he would not be open to a etiminal information if the man escaped. What ever objections might - be made there against the- Lord Mayor's' conduct, be .felt confident that the conntry'arkrge . would 'give him ctedit for the zreia, and tireti - iiiy displayed upon an oc casitoi t 1 ,1 required so much circlunspeetion. Mr. OtnnAm defended the conduct of Mr. Al elf rm,t u lVaithman,. 'I here was no man to whom the ep;rhers made use of by the Lord Mayor could be applied with Its 3 justice. If any. thing tended inore thou. another to excite.disturbtittee, it war the apprehension of the man raided -to, tinder -existing, circumstances. - lie would .allow that it was the•duty of the Lord Mayor to have the %var iant executed, but it would have been more prii 7 dent to appoint an officer to watch Lint, and take him into custody whet: the Meeting broke up. Of Radical Reformers, he never entertained but one opnion, that their ohjects were visionary, ;ord their designs dangerous. 011 this account he always heard of !Itch' mretings with apprehension and regret ; but if any thing could tend more titan another to remove these impressions, it was the pedeeithle 111 , 11Ilier in which the Meeting at SmithfieLl conducted them-elves, when the man wns so imprudently taken .tiom the cart under a Watrant. Mr. SMITH hoped that one of his brother-Ma gistrates would have proposed the thanks of. the Court to the Lord Mayor, for the judicious •and highly meritorious arrangements made by him to preserve the peace -and good order of the metro polis. This not having been done, he was induced to present himself to their notice for that pur pose. He Wai at Giltspur-street with his Lord ship upon the occasion alluded to by the lion. Gentleman (Mr. Oldham) ; and he should have abstained from till notice or comment upon the conduct of the Worthy Alderman (Waithrnan), did he not feel himself called upon to do so by tome observations that, were made. The Lott! Mayor received the two following letters froth the Worthy Alderman : (COPY.) " M La in—lt has been represented to me, that the Fre mot, who act as Special Constables, are now parading Smith field, and it is thought by the Inhabitants here assciohled, t bat it would have been much better if they were in attend ance in some convenient place near thespot,,avd not to chew t hemselves, unless required, which, however, I submit to your Lordship's consideration. " I have the honour to be, " Tour Lordship's obedient Servant, (Signed) It. WA ITHMAN. " St. Sepitichre's Church, July 21, Half-past Ten o'Clock. " The Right 11ust. the Luau Mavott." (COPY.) " LORD—Contrary to what was perfectly-understood at the Court of Altlermen yesterday, I understand that there ;ire , Military now in Smithfield. It has 'already created ap prehensions in the minds of several, and it appears to mo so tints a proceeding, that I most for myself protest against it, as tending to excite tumult.' Indeed I cannot believe that it "should have had your Lordship's concurrence. " I have the honour to be, " Your Lordship's obedient Servant, (Signed) " R. WAITHMAN. 'l. St. Sepulchre's, July 21, Eleven o'Cloek: ",The Right Hots, the LORD MAYOR." • Who were the troop-. that excited this strong re monstrance ? .No more than two or three of the City Light Horse, who came for the purpose of receiving communications from -the-Lord Mayor, and departed - immediately after... A few moments subsequent to the apprehension-of,Haralson, the Worthy Alderman (Waldman), nor content with the letters . he .had written, came to Giltspur .stteer, out] exclainied with much vehemence of manner, "1 protest, my Lord Mayor • against _ these proceedings of your's. The way in which the Worthy Alderman conducted himsellwas most indecent. and unbecoming a Magistrate upon truch . an•occasion. He approached the Lord Mayor, pro testing,exclaiming, shaking his.hand, and declaring that it Wood was shed, it would be owing to the conduct pursued by'his Lordship. The Lord Mayor only asked whether he waS: aware of what:had been dune, and . protested against this interference as most unbecoming: •The. .Worthy Alderman, even in. the public streets, spoke-with vehemence against the employment of the City Light Horse Volunteers . , so as .to draw on them the hisses of the mob. This-conduct was most imprudent,laud upon such an occasion highly improper and dan gerous. •No man in the world could be further than the Lout Mayor from any wish - to introduce the military • into the City,•or to adopt any mea sure tending in the smallest degree.;to excite riot or disturbance: • One circumstance passed in• his (Mr. Smith's) hearing, that gave evident proof of this. Some Gentlemen offered to go and pull down the bloody flag of liberty that was hoist ed. His Lordship refused the offer, and said he would allow nothing to be done from which riot or confusion could arise.—(Elear Smith concluded by proposing the following motion :- 4 ' That this Court consider it a•just tribute due to the Right Hon. John Atkins, Lord Mayor of this City; to present to his Lordship their best Thanks for the very able and judicious arrange ments made by him, on the 21st inst., for the preservation of the Ptiblic Peace of the City of London ; which this Court consider were not only fully adequate, in any event, to have quelled disturbance, but were also eminently effectual in preserving the Peace of the City inviolate•" Mr. JUPP seconded the motion. As a lawyer, lie must say, when a warrant was brought to a :Magistrate it was his duty to have it immediately executed. Did he not do se', he would be guilty of .a dereliction of his duty. He was happy to have this opportunity of expressing his thanks to the Lord Mayor for his highly meritorious con duct on the day of the'Meeting. The question being put, Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN said, he felt himself called upon to say a few words atter the allusions that bad been made to his conduct. He did not intend to enter into any explanation of what Was personal in the transaction, but some ex planation was now rendered necessary in his own defence. He always drew a distinction between the person of the Magistrate and' his duty, and never refused to give him any support in his power, however he Might disapprove of him as an individual. The lion. Gentleman (Mt. Smith) was pleased to allude to his (Mr. \V.'a) t‘ner, and the abrupt wanner i n w hi c h ...h a ad- dressed the told iNhydr. ro;ift quainted with the manner in which be, and ) . .he Hon. 9 eutlemapusually detyeaned themselves, and lie twould leave it.to then, toidecide which bad a claim i tiri'ifie ch‘racker.of abniptness. He 01t... W.) . ,,.140: a duty-to Aigrforni upon the occasion nildlted to. .• He niightlia4been* wrong, hut' Le acted to the best of his judgment. At Fait-pavt --11-seelock -he- was • in---pert eet- ignorance where , the Lord Mayor was to be f o u n d, The Magistrates of Middlesex and'some others were in the same pre dicament. Though ie,norant of it, he was stm thine(' very, neat his Lordship, and still received no communication from him ,while others,Magistrates, more distant, did receive comuomieatioto. He sent a- messenger to the Mansion House, but the Lord Mayor was not there. Some inhabitants of the %Yard in which he was doing duty represented to hint that soldiers, mounted upou black horses with loot; tails, were observed in the streets, and passing through Smithfield. As the Court of Al dermen had ordered, (red as it was undetstood by them that no soldiers were to appear in the City, he did not think 'it probable that the Lord Mayor woold concur in such - a pity:ceiling, and it was in consequence of these circumstances he acted. The Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Smith) ,charged 'situ with acting improperly and indecently towards the Lord Mayor. The fact was not so. -It was true 'that he knew of no wat rant at this time for the apprehension of any person. He inertly hearth that thirty or forty constables took a men out of the cart, and he still looked upon it as a 111041 in judicious , act. IVas he bound to execute warrant, he would sooner take some responsi bility WI himself, under such eitemnitunces, anti postpone it until the Meeting was over. ;laving Been twenty or thirty constables rushing out, and the people alarmed in consequence, he went to his Lord,hip, with a respectable Gentleman of the Ward Le had die honour of representing, and asked whether these constables were acting sO under his Lordship's orders.—(Mr. Smith, No ) He could trust to his inemory, and he hoped the .Court also would trust to it. it Nature was fa vourable to him in one respect more than another it was in accuracy of recollection.. He could sit down that moment a _and write down, without mistake, every word he uttered upon the occasion. All he said was, that the men, by going on as they did, were likely . to create a tumult, and that he protested against it. How this was received by the Lord Mayor must be known to those who were acquainted with the complacency of his manner upon such occasions. Mr. Smith made another broad assertion in that place, he would not call it a gross one, with respect to a feet of could know nothing. lie stated that he (Mr. Alderman NV.) used language tending to ex cite, anti did excite, the mob to insult the City Light Horse.—lt so happened, however, that there was no insult, no excitement, no mob. He merely asked those Gentlemen if they came there by the directions, of the Lord Mayor, and said that if such were the case, he protested against it. As an Alderman of the City, and knowing the orders that had .been given with respect to •the,military, was he not bound to act in-thiS twin lc was the right and duty of any simple in habitant to do, it. Even admitting that these gentlemen belonged to the City Light„Uorse, still it..was- objectionable to see them parading the streets in uniform, particularly upon such an oc casion. When he went to the Lord Mayor to re- present this circumstance, his answer was, that lie twist, not be interrupted. Though the Meeting went off quietly, it did not follow .that the con duct of the Chief Magistrate was the cause, or that he was entitled to,their thanks with respect to all the proceedings adopted upon the occasion. The LORD MAYutt said, the first thing done by him was, to give directions for swearing inn suffi cient number of special constables. He .ne.ver for a moment intended to Adopt any other than civil means for preserving the-peace of the City.,-Hav ing' written to the . Court of Aldertnen -upon the Subject, they left it entirely to his disci-c 4ns. to select any' number of special . : constables he might tlijok necessary, and, expressing; their willingness to' meet. the eispence.. He declared did not know in what particular spot it would be,PeCes• sary for him to act, but the first regulation made was .sufficient . toprevent mistake upon, ibis point. The, regulation was, that, two intelligent,,consta- Wes should be- appointed from among those of each Ward, to. communicate between. 1411100- trates and the Lord Mayor, and that by sending at eight o'clock to. the-Mansion House, it .would be known whether he was to remain there.— w,ould ask. the Worthy Alderman (Waithman) why he had not read_ this regulation,. and if he had, what ground there was for.. ; complaining that lie did not know where to. ftnd the Lord Mayor ? But the fact was, that the Worthy Al derman must have known where he .was ,to be found, for he . (the Lord Mayor) received two letters from him, one at,,* halt-past ten, and an, other at eleven, .stating that the, military were Parading the streets, and protesting against ,•it, as tending to excite tumult.—[Mr.. Alderman Waldman said, the letters lie wrote * were not to the Mansion-Houie.]--He did not quit the Mansion-House until half-past nine, anti left word that directions should be given -where he was to be found. As to the warrant so much alluded to, it was executed with the greatest caution .and prudence. Few knew of it until it was -announced from the cart by .one of those persons who stood in it, and the Constables proceeded quietly to the performance of this duty without any bustle or ,noise. The Worthy Alder man (Waithman) soon after rushed in where he was sitting, saying, that-Ice carne there to protest against such conduct on the part of the Lord Mayor, and that if -there, was a riot in-Smithfield he would be the author of it. Against such be haviour on the part of the Worthy Alderman he also protested, and begged to have .no more such interference. The intemperance of his manner in rushing in and speaking was such, that, had it occurred. in public , -be should have- felt it his duty to order him into custody. After a few-words from Mr. REEVES, Air: PEARSON opposed the original motion. He condemned time conduct of the Lord Mayor ia al lowing any of the military to appear in the streets, and in ordering, under the existing circumstances, - the execution of' the warrant against Mr. Harri son. This individual, be had sumac reason to know, vve bAli in Stocicport bzfort ;I) tnltti and: this act was nothing less, therefore, than one o f useless oppression. He (My ; as well as other iti4llvidtta-ls in the eoUntiii;'receited, he knew not for what object, fictitiofis tetters,in- Siting - them to this Meeting. Mr. Pearson eon -eluded by proposing-an Amendment, ekpressive of the plea.ure the Court test at the Meeting iu Smithfield having terminated so peaceably, their approbation of the means adopted by the Lord Mltyor in prevent divurbanee through the means of: - the Civil Power, but their regret, at 'the same that temperance of the people should have been put to trial by the appearance of the military in the streets. Mr. FAvat.L. said, he should hive no objection to the original motion, if the body of the Magis trutes were included in it with the Lord Mayor. Mr. Aldermun RornwFLL defended the con duct of the Lord Mayor, aud supported the ori ginal motion. Mr. GitiFFiTFIS begged leave to correct a mis take-, into whicl4 the mover of the amendment had was present when Mr. ilitUISOll WHS hroo,ghoi,elof e the Lord 'Mlyor, and he then ac knowledged that he had not given bail in the Country. Mr. lieputy REMUS said, the statement of the Hon. Gentleman who spoke last was not q uil t .. correct.- When brought before the Lord Alayor, I. Harrison was asked whether he had any de fence to make, and answered in the negative, stating,. that he believed the offence was bailable, and that he could procure bail when the. Meeting ,was over. The Lord Mayor expressed a- doubt, whether it could be received by any Magistrate, except him who signed the Warrant. Mr. DIXON. Mr. Alderman Thocee. and Mr. BLACK TT, supported the original motion. Gentleman, whose name could not be learned, expressed a wish that the circumstance of the three soldiers of the Life Guards being stationed at the. Mansion House should be explained. The LORD MAYon said, that three horses be longing to the Life Guards were placed in the Green-yard by his direc:ion, and at his request. Not. having a horse of his own quiet enough to act in a crowd, be desired that three adapted to this purpose might be sent from the Guards—one for himself, and two for the Marshals.. He did not know whether the men came with them or• not ; if they did, he was quite it stranger to the circumstance. Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN said, the appearance of even one soldier in the City %vas as lunch a breach of their privileges as if a large body ap peared there. He remembered a time when the casual passing of troops . through the metropolis prOdnced loud remonstrance. If the horses were required, it was by no means necessary that the men who brought them should appear in uniform. He was much mistaken, or else he saw troops 01 the' same description Marching up Ludgate-hill. Atter a few words from Mr. N. WILLIAMS and Mr. PEACOCK, the Amendment was negatived by a spew of hands. Mr. PkARSON Then called for a division, when the - numbers were— Aldermen. Commoners. Tellers. For the Amendment 2 ts ‘-'. 27 Fur the original Motion 7 CO 2 69 Majority - - —42 An amendment to include the word " Alder men" was moved by Mr. OLDHAM, for which there Were.only three hands held up. The original motion was them carried, as was also a separate vote of thanks to the Aldermen.— After some routine business was dispatched, the Court adjourned. , , , THEATRICAL •REGISTEI.J Performed Last Night. Tx kATRC ROYAL, HAYLARKET.--:The Green Man : Mr. • Green; !1t•. Terry ; Bertha, Miss E. Blanchard. After ' which, Matrimony. To which was added, Wet Weather. THEATRE ROYAL, ENOLISH OPERA•HOUSE.--MV Own Rival: Principal Characters by Mr. Wrench and Miss Kelly. Alter• which, One, Two, Three, Four, Fire, by Advertiienient. To which was added, The Rival Soldiers, and Bachelors' Wives, PRICE 0 .s:rocits, THIS DAY AT TWELVE O'CLOCK. B,nk Stock... ..... 228 229 3 pet Cent. Red. 'Nil 711 71 . 3 per Cent. Cons '7 040 3i per (:cut : . 804 4 per Cents / . 89ai A per Ct. N. Ann... 10414 105 India . Bout's.— 6s. £4. 7s. pr. Excb. Bills, 2d, par, is.2s. pr. 1-1 pr. Consuls. for August, 704 • MAILS. • AualvED-1 Dublin, I IVaterford, I . Lisbon, I France. Dut—l Guernsey arid Jersey, I Lisbon. HIGH WATER AT-LONDON BRIDGE To.mORROW. Morning, 31 . minittes after 4. I Evening, 26 minutes after 4. THE SUN. 1110 LEM QUIS DICERE FALSLIM AUDEAT LONDON, SATURDAY, JULY 24, 1819. We received this morning the Paris Papers at Wednesday last. The following are ex'racts : " PARIS, JULY 21.—'fire King yesterday took an airing to the Buis de Verriere. " The Duke de Richelieu is arrived at Paris. " All the Ministers dined on Monday at the country house of the Baron Louis. ".All the Letters and Papers from the Sou:h state, that the harvest has every where commenced, under the happiest auspices. " The King transacted business yesterday with he Marquess Dessolles. , " On the 12th inst. a most dreadful fire caused by the negligence of a man a little deranged in his mind, reduced to ashes three linndred and sixty-five buildings, including 62 houses, and three farming establishments in the Con►u►une of Rimy, anton d'Estrees, Saint Denis, A►rnudissen►cnt of Compiegne, Department of Oise, 260 indivi duals have thus been reduced to the g , eates misery, The damage N eitimated 4i) 0(0 francs. 4 ' On the 9th inst. reports of an approsehig rupture bet ween the United States of Ame rig° and Spain were circulating at_Barcelona, aHd thief assumed such a consistence that the dep artur e was hastened of some Anglo•Atnericans, hO ja • tended to have r e m a i ne d f or some t i me in that eil'v' FIVE PER CENTS. Tuesday • • DEFERRED STOCK: • Of the 221 March, 1817, 9l f . 22(1Scpt. 1817, • f. —c. 1 2::(1 March, 1818, —c• 22t1 Sept. #lBlB, .85 f. —C. 22(1.March,1819, " TuNts, Jun plague which has cs d tied off upwards of 30,000 p e rs ons ' herb, li g % beginning t o c eas e i ts r avages, an d we hope to be delivered from it: ff " STRAsThUitG, JULY 15.-41 te P r i nce itoi sr° Prusikt and Prince Frederic of Orange 11 " 14 .1 rived here. " BEP,LIN, JULY J.—A few days since t bts seals were put upon the papers of ° eve' ral Students ; these papers have been del ire : eil over to th e A ut h or i t i es . O ne o f t h e I )° " tors of our Academy has also had his par e° put under seal. These measures put every °P c mind in suspense. RASTADT, J ULY 15.—T wo St u d e nts -- d ttit University of Ft iburg, in Brisgan, have been 00 ; expectedly arrested i n th at c i t y. Th e raper' several others have been seized. These meas ure took place subsequ e nt t o th e arr i va l o f t h e Direc tor of the Police of Heidelberg, M. Pfister. An ° W ; ciation, is said to have been discovered any llls the Students of several Universities. " MUNICH, JULY 14.—The discussions betWee/1 the Government and the Chamber of De V ile" ' respecting the Military Estimates, have ta ke: rather a serious turn. Th e Ki ng disple ased with the reduction made by the Chamber, has , b 1 an order signed by himself, directed 25,000 flor ins: to be appropriated ont of his Civil List to O . Army expellees. With this step, however, l b° , Chamber is highly displeased but they 01°4 the whole blame upon the Minister of War, W ii° they insist should be changed." We received this morning Charleston Papers t° the 25th June. PATRIOTIC PIRACY. It is with great pleasure we copy the 10110%44 article from the Baltimore MOrtiing Chronicle: - "" " It is a notorious fact there his been En ncil clandestine intercourse carried on by some of 1 " 1 Citizens . of Baltimore with the Patriots of s ° 6l ' America, in defiance of a positive ,law of C °l " gress, and in violation of solemn , existing Tr"*. ties. IVltat reproach has been brought on thif City by this shameful and clandestine traffic it does not become us to say ; such, however, is the fact—h.this shameful traffic mtht be sooner °r later abandoned. Unless our Government o ra prepared at once to take up arms against his Cs° tholic Aldjesty, our Administration cannot 0 181 % .' rain our present am i c abl e re l at i ons hi p 'si l Spain —we must .be either friends or ettenties'-' we must act the part of an o p en an d independ c ot foe, or preserve a manly and honest neutrsn9 r between these two extremes : there is no & hen''' . five. Our present policy is a treacherous Poll cC ; It is perfectly cont em p t ibl e to say that an tb Allied Powers of Europe are ignorant of this 6 Y 5' tem of policy—they watch every moment Tvirb aft eye of a lynx ; they have pondered, they " v. meditated on the subject, but they have not y er finally resolved. We do not believe t he /' one and all, wish the independence of Scl urii Atnerica, and they cannot be bought off from this resolution but by immense sacrifices °P the part of his Catholic Majesty. Whether (I I purchase is to be accom pli s h e d b y a cessa tion Q. the Island of Cuba to England or to Itu 6 s ifl whether this Island is so ce d e d, ot h er a nd stiii more important sacrifices front Spain may DO ha detnanded, is more than we can answer; but tit his is the %%raking of the political ferment is w iiss we undertake to state without tear of contra lie lion. European Statesmen, although not rePt lbli* cans, are not absolutely fools." Letters .(rout several parts of India speak of 03° severe wcather which was experienced in tit quarter (luting :be month of January. A t e nr. or3h, on the 241 h of January, the ground %T s covcred with hoar frost. A letter from Sbeere tt i mentions, that on the 17th, IS:11, and 19th of t" Shine fnouth, the thermometer teas 03, and tha t they had ice a quarter of au inch thick. .fiertv's sail had been seen near Asseergbeer; G was believed he intended to .:in that to“ have bad been taken by assault by tue force' cosnatand i(Eli. qttit e BAC/11510RM, JUNK 20.—No leg of f Bank of N!)nr1) CAI Irmo fire t^ htindrol (1!111.11.3, lire in cii.;7l,latioa. 1 • . 11c a lier3 :;oo is d;41..1 mcc,,l3te ~i tl,e ~tte. .e=F tall te r , th r , kit tau Ilan .-lit $4. • SC: T 1 ad. -ad vi , Sth T'►t cii,; tr r i 14 s ue , 'Jot left 41 1 —1)1