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(In Committee of Ways and Meanc.) LONDON, FRIDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 8, 1828. NOTICES GIVEN YESTERDAY. Tuesday, Feb. 12. Mr. Secretary Peel—Select Committee on the state of the Revenue, and Expenditure of the Country. Thursday; Feb. 14. Mr. Wolryche Whitmore—Bill for the regulation of the Salmon Fisheries. Tuesday, March 18. Dr. Phillimore—Bill to alter and amend the Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction exercised in the Country Courts. PRICE 7D. Na. 11,094. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, FEBRUARY 7, 1828. Their Lordships met at the usual hour. A person from the Board of Trade presented returns ui the prices of Corn for each month in the year 1827. The Marquis of SALISBURY hoped that his Noble friend (Lord Wharncliffe) would withdraw his proposal for a Committee on the Game Laws, which was fixed for Tuesday next, in order that his (the Marquis of Salis bury's) Bill might be read a second time cur Wednesday next. Lord WHARNCLIFFE begged to give notice that he would persevere in his intention of moving for the Com mittee en Tuesday. 'fhe Earl of CARNARVON was of opinion that the Noble Marquis's measure was most desirable. That i they were to vote for a Committee generally on the Game Laws on Tuesday next, it might materially interfere with the progress of the Bill ; at the same time, he thought that a Committee ought to be appointed for the purpose of taking into consideration the whole system of the Game Laws. Lord WHARNCLIFFE put it to the Noble Marquis to state what his object was in wishing to have the Bill read a second time before the Committee was appointed. The Marquis of SALISBURY said that his object was to have the principle of the Bill established by the second reading, so that all the effect the Committee might have upon it, should be on the clauses. Lord WHARNCLIFFE objected to the principle of the Bill, and on that very ground, would persevere in his no tice for the Committee, which accordingly stands for Tuesday. NEEK. Brans. PARLIAMENTARY PAPERS. NAVY OFFICE, DEC. 31, 1527. An Estimate of the Charge of Wages and Victuals, for Thirty Thousand Men, including Nine Thousand Royal Marines, to serve in his Majesty's Fleet ; for Thirteen Lunar Months, commencing the Ist day of January,lB2S. For the Wages of 30,000 Men, at 21. 9s. a Man, a month £955,500 For the Victuals of the said Men, at 1/. 12s. a Man, a month - 60 - fil £1,579,500 T. B. MARTIN. H. LEGGE. R. S. DUNDAS. THE MARKETS. SOUTHALL MARKET.—Feb. G. At our market of to-day, which was tolerably well supplied, and rather numerously attended by buyers, each kind of fat stock met with a ready sale, at the following prices per stone of Slb. to sink the Ails : Beef 4s. Oct to ss. Od. I Veal 10d. to 6s. 4.1. Mutton —4 0 5 0 I Park 8 510 The foregoing quotations are about the same as those of this day se'nnight. But a small proportion cf the supply Left the market unsold. - 6 - Z - 60 - 66 -6% d. W d. 6 X 4 4 ii 6 8 41 11 6 6 supply of we notice • LEWES MARKET.—Fcb. 5. Beef 4s. Od. to 4a. Sd. Veal—. Os. Od. to Os. 0,1 Mutton I 4 0 410 Pork 4 0 4 8 Supply, for the time of year, tolerably good ; trade somewhat brisk. he millers purchase ast week. BREACH OF PRIVILEGE. Their Lordships, after going into a further investigation of the circumstances attending Lord Haywarden's arrest, ordered, that William Henry Palmer, the Sub-Sheriff of the county of Sussex ; Camp, his officer ; and Jenner, the solicitor ; should stand committed to the custody of the Sergeant at Arms. The House then adjourned. RKET.—Feb. 6. RUMFORD M. r. d. to s. d. s. d• to s. d. 13ecf 310 4 8 Veal Mutton 4 0 5 0 Pork ........ . ......... 4 0 5 1 ) suckling Calves from 14s. to 38s. and old PigslOs. to 16i. each. :supply rather limited, trade somewhat brisk. COUNTRY OORN MARKETS DURING THE WEEK. , either in week are not many prevailing Barley, extremely r. lower ; sd witlatnit ugly dull, 3s. 465. 48s. -S. 266. 236. -s. 245. 26e. -s. !Als. 295. —6. —6 445. 465. —s. 365. 395. —s. 365. 465. —/. 25/. 20/. ket, which 'a superior Ad at 28s. !p brought s was sold &d. s.d. .. 0 S 0 9 ..04 06 ..034 04, ..00 0 4 ..07 OS Lttle on the rears olds ; Lnd 1 bull. the greater are happy be best lot, on/bt from Lld early in e can safely at of cattle obis, though •mentiened, It 101., in- Here, there most of the he bull was le to speak ots, we are 'e cheerful xket unez this season, commenced wever, soon s. Id., and k carts still perieneed a e think the Id. Upon :et. he Court of to - ...... ... 11 It 9 11 R 12 ...... ...... 11 11 , on-flull RI i Wear- 12 ibury IARG111), Inn tieh 'ettruary 11, tanee, En. Rev. Thos. et, the lady tford, of a .square, by Baldwin, Kent, to William. Clealier, of kilbeck, of Alderman he Rer. J. of Viscount Dr. Torn. eford. !r, Esq. of Aberdeen• rs Minister. hire, Mrs. th, EN. of .e, London. oe, Bucks, 5 Micbit4 Ph "col Wheat. Barley. I Oats. Be_ Per Quarter. s. to s, s. to s. s. to s. s. to S. Blandford 57 29 25 49 Grigg ... 48 54 24 28 21 25 44 48 Cambridge— 55 29 19 3 2 Chard —,.-- 56 66 32 39 24 30 45 4 8 Huntingdon 50 56 30 31 22 24 44 48 Long Sutton— 44 55 17 23 37 39 Louth . 41 48 26 30 15 21) 35 40 Lynn . 42 58 27 32 16 28 36 40 Newark -- 50 .55 30 34 20 32 40 46 Nottingham —__ 55 61 35 42 30 40 41 59 Peterborough 40 50 28 32 24 30 Plymouth • 5O 61: 25 29 19 22 Pontefract._ - — 51 31 28 48 Sleaford -- 49 53 25 31 17 22 40 44 Vpyingham Wisbech LEEDS CORN MARKET.—Feb. 5. There was an abundant supply of Wheat and Barley, and a fair quantity of other Grain. Wheat of good dry i quality sold on rather lower terms than last week, and middling samples were full Is. per quarter lower. Barley was very dull sale, and Is. to Is. 6d. per quarter cheaper. In Oats and Shelling no material alteration. For Beans the demand continues very limited, and prices were rather lower. Rapeseed as last advised. Wheat, Norfolk and Suffolk, tiOlb. ----- York. and Lincoln. 601 b. Barley, Norfolk and Suffolk ' 32s. to 3ts .., 1 P: , ~—....—..... Yorkshire and Lincolnshire Grinding Beans Oats, Potatoe —Healing, Foreign 11d. to 12d. ... English 12d. to 13d. per st. Shelling 2%. to 295. per load. Rapeseed, English, 25 /. to 271 ....... Foreign, —l. to —l. per last. --___ MANCHESTER SMITHFIELD. —Feb. 6. At per lb. sinking the offal. 2,119 Sheep sd. to 74d. 1 'l5 Calves-- 503 Catt1e..,..... , 41 7 1 182 Pigs sid. to 70 5 f MANCHESTER POTATOE MARKET.—FeIi. 2. Potatoes, 3s. Od., 4s. Od., and Ls. 6d. per load of 12 score and 1211)1. ; New ditto, Os. Od., Os. Od., and Os. per ditte ; Turnips. 45.. 6d., 4s. 9d. and ss. Od. per load of 16 pecks; Onions, 10s. Od., 13s. Od., and 13s. per 12 score. a.—Feb. 5. 30 —lO to 101 40 11 12 5U— 14 15 60 15 16 SO 19 20 90 , 22 21. 100.— 28 3) 120 34 36 10 . 7 11...,.,.... 8 fki 18 9 91 , 10 104 ETS.—Feb. 4. .N MARK: Mule Cop Weft..' Wett from waste .... MARK: Oatmeal, per st. Is. 6d. to 2s. Ikl Peasemeal . 2 0 3 6 Pot Barley, ewt.l2 0 17 0 Pearl ditto .... 2O 0 2t 0 Grey Pease 12 0 0 0 White ditto l3 0 1 t Blue ditto 13 0 It MANCHESTER YA No d. d. I htostle Twist, 20 -.101 to n ~..12 121 40 ... 15 16 Mule copTwistl 30 » 1l 12 for warp 40..14 15 50 17 19 60..19 20 70 —22 24 ..26 28 OLASGOW RETAIL Beef " per lb. Os. sd. to Os. 9d. Mutton 0 5 0 7 Veal 0 5 0 9 Hams 0 7 0 9 Lamb ..... .perqr 0 0 0 0 Quartern Loaf 0 9 0 0 Flour, per stone 2 0 2 8 Rye HOP INTELLIGENCE. WORCESTER, FEB. 6.—ln our market on Saturday 44 pockets were weighed. There is no variation in the price of middling Hops ; very fine are worth 9/. MEETINGS OF CREDITORS. ----- LONDON DI ARY.—Tuzausor, VAN. 12. At the Court o , Commissioners, Basinghall-street. Aired°, J., de, Bank-buildings, merchant 1: Atficld, J., Richmond, carpenter Bradstreet, L., Water-lane, dealer Broad, T., Penzance, linen-draper II Bugby, J., Pall.mall.place, bill.broker Chittenden, J. and Co, Canterbury, merchants Collett and Jones, Leeds, merchants Day, W., Hammersmith, saddler COUNTRY DI A R.Y.—l'iloNnair, Fisa. 11. Cook, W., Bedwardine—Unicorn, Worcester Crutchley, T., Birmingham—Royal h o t e l, Birmingham .•• Hughes, J., Li v erpool—Clarendon, Liverpool Hume, J., Liverpool--Bardswell, Liverpool Jones, t, Edgehill, Liverpool—Clarendon-buildings, Li veePool ..... ......................................... . Molineux, r. M anc hester —Royal hotel, Birmingham Rolfe, vv. , Ed ' gbaston, Warwickshire—Royal hotel, Bir mingham .... .. ......... .......... ..... Sage, G., Walcot—Commercial rooms, Bristol INSOLVENTS APPLYING TO DISCHARGED, Petitions to be heard at Portugal-street, Lincoln's Inn Fields Feb. 12, at Nine o'clock. Nicholson 'Halton, Holbe ac h Li nco l ns hire, farmer Mason, tin - pl ate worker page, J., Stafford-street, Pimlico, tailor Robinson, T., Crawford -street, linen -draper Jackson, T., Stoke Newington, coachman Starke. T., Dorset -street, Alarylebone, tailor Ilamson, J., Bethnal-green -road drum-major Hine, 11 -, Rugel e y, Staffordshire , wheelwright Sill, S. Eton, Bucks, h a i r - dresser L Shepherd, , Blackrriars-road, baker Worawick, R., Alanehester, cattle -dealer at Ten COUNTRY.--At the Gun r ii — T a Ti-- 0 , , i 0 at y, widGwek. Lincoln, Febllldry 13, Abbott, Elizabeth, Bordne Boor, J., Holbeach, Litleoln, pubtie an Brand, J, Swineshead, harness-make r Dobson, J., Birabrook, linen and woollen d Dunston, Wm., Osgodsby, labourer raper Hammersley, W., Boston, chair-maker Islip, T., Lincoln, fishmonger Jackson, J. Conningsby, miler and baker Xit w ° o d, T., Boston, sail-maker Mr. WASHINGTON IRVING S 1-1 /sT OrtY the Ltrx and VOYAGES of CoLuateus, will be published on lkfonday. THE LATE MURDER AT BATH.-A sister of the deceased, with her husband, arrived here on Monday n ight. In co nsequence of the i r h a ving remo ved th eir real_ post letter an deuce from H ammersm i th to Brom ptoop the tive quainting them with the dreadful fate of their rem r a g did not reach them : bet they accidentally read the pa rag raph .st. of the murder in a newspaper on Sunday evening r ia er, Early on the Monday morning succeeding the d took a GARAGAN, the sculptor, residing in the he model of the body BACWALL as it la: is kitchen in its blond, and the resemblance in ever}' particular js understo o d to he remarkably acc urate. Mr. 'G. like v : l ? took a model of her h ea d, after the hair was cut off , whic h allows all the wounds that were inflicted, both on the head and throat. —.Bath Chronicle. Lord COLLINGWOOD frequently passed the whole night on the quarter-deck ; a practice which in cir cumstances of difficulty, he continued to the latest years of hie life. When, on these occasions, he has told his friend Lieut. CLAvxLL, wile had gained his entire confidence, that they must not leave the deck for the night, and that officer has endeavoured to persuade him that there was no occa sion for it, as a goad look out was kept, and represented that he was almost exhansted with fatigue, the Admiral would reply, i‘ I fear you are : you have need of rest ; so go to bed, CLAvzu.,, Very frequently have they slept and tlogxevtihllerwaotnchabygumnyfsreolfm." which Admiral COLLINGWOOD would rise from time to time, to itreip the horizon with his night-glass, lest the enemy should escape in the dark. HOUSE OF COMMONS, FEBRUALY 7. The House met at Four o'clock. Mr. PEEL and another Member took the oaths and their seats. General GASCOYNE presented a petition from the Directors of the Manchester Railway, for leave to amend their Bill. Mr. FARQUHAR presented a petition from Kirkwall, for leave to bring in a Bill to amend that harbour. Sir E. KNATCHBULL presented a petition from the Warden of Dover Harbour, praying that the Dover Har bour Bill might be renewed. Mr. LLOYD presented a petition from a parish in Limerick, praying for Catholic Emancipation. Mr. CHARLES PALLINIER presented a petition from certain Prollistant Dissenters, praying for a repeal of the Test and Corporation Acts. Mr. VESEY FITZGERALD presented a petition from Clare, in favour of Catholic Emancipation. Sir THOMAS LETHBRIDGE moved for various re turns relative to the importation of Foreign Corn, and also for returns of the quantities of British Wool exported, and of Foreign Wool imported, since the late alteration in the law. Mr. A. BARING said, that the importation of foreign wool into the country, was not new, as had been supposed by the Right Hon. Gentleman, who lately undertook to remodel our commercial system. It would be found that the present system, which so much startled the agricul turists, was merely a return to the old state of the law. With the view of proving the truth of this statement, the Hon. Member moved for returns of the quantities of wool imported into this country since the year 1790 up to the present time. The several returns were ordered. Sir HENRY PARNELL presented a Petition from a parish in the county of Carlow, praying for the repeal of the penal laws affecting the Roman Catholics. Mr. CURTEIS presented a petition from the congrega tion of ProtestarA Dissenters, meeting at the Unitarian Chapel at Battle, praying for the repeal of the Corporation and Test Acts. _ . Mr. BROWNLOW presented several petitions from parishes in Ireland, in favour of Catholic Emancipation. Mr. W. WHITMORE moved for returns of the quan tities of foreign grain of all sorts imported during the last year, and also a like return of the quantity imported from Ireland. Mr. JOHN SMITH presented petitions from the Pro testant Dissenters of Titchfield, Rye, and Needham-mar ket, praying for the repeal of the Corporation and Test Acts. Dr. PHILLIMORE gave notice, that on the Bth March he would bring in a Bill to amend and improve the Eccle siastical jurisdiction in County Courts. Mr. DAWSON brought up an account of the public income of the United Kingdom.—Laid on the table. Mr. WODEHOUSE moved for a return of the number of prosecutions and convictions which took place between the sth Jan. 1824, and the sth Jan. 1827, under the Malt Act.—Laid nn the table. STATE AND ArMINISTRATIEON OF THE LAW. Mr. BROUGHAM then rose, and addressed the House on the motion of which he had given notice, respecting the State and Administration of the Law. In rising, he said, in'this House, to address it on what, certainly, is one m the most important subjects that can possibly be submitted to the consideration of the Legislature, I feel at the same time deeply impressed with the conviction also, that it is one of the most difficult, and the largest, that can engage the attention of this House. That subject is no less than the whole State of the Common Law of this country ; the Common Law, I (all it, in contradistinction to Equity, as administered in certain Courts, with the view of point ing out the defects which may have been in its original construction, or which time may kave introduced, as well as of considering the remedies which may be appropriate to correct those defects. Nothing, I do assure you, at all comforts and bears me up under the pressure of this vast and otherwise overwhelming burden, but the consideration I have of its paramount importance. Satisfied now of its ne cessity, that the inquiry can no longer with advantage to any body be delayed, and feeling in my own mind a persuasion that I can so deal with the subject, for such is my deep veneration for all that is good to our system of law, and my habitual and profound respect for those in whose hands the administration of it is placed, that I shall neither offend the prejudices of one class nor imitate the personal feelings of another ; but I feel a confidence also which is unspeakable, and which rests on another ground. Ido not come here to raise cavils before men ignorant of the de tails and niceties of the profession to which I belong, and who, in that unavoidable ignorance, would be unfit judges of the merits of the question ; and I am determined to say nothing that may enable me to avail myself of that want of information for the sake of a futile triumph over what is most valuable in our system of law. I am unspeakably comforted and strengthened in my reso lution, from the accidental circumstances of my having been joined, in some degree, by my profession to the ad ministration of the law in which I have had so consider able an experience. I have seen so much of its practical details in the country, that it is in my view no speculative matter whether for blame or praise. I pledge myself, as long as the House may attend to me, in no one instance to mak e a ny observation, to bring forward any grievance, or notice any defect, of which I am not myself competent to 'eak from personal knowledge, either as Counsel or in som e shap e partly concerned. I will even limit myself still further, to"some cause or other in which I have practised for on e party or the other. With these considerations, em boldened on the one han d, a nd impressed on th e o th er w ith a becomi ng sense of the ar d uou s duty I have undertak en i n thi s great and important m atter, I will in the first p la ce state the points whi c h I Equity in intend altogethe r to avoid. Thes e are every branch, unless whe re I ma y be com p ell ed to mention it i nc id entally, from its interference with th e course of the conamo n law, not that I think nothing should Parliament. A Committee sat alrea dy taken up h -3 , y, but b eca use in some s ort it has be en be done as to equity, and inquired, and produced a report which has been received, and though n u t y e t acted upon, the Noble and Learned Lord, who presides over the Court of Chancery, has announced his intention of a bill, founded on that Repo r t. , 1 may also add , proposingthath e subject of equity has, to hi s own great h ono ur, and to the great benefit of the country, been for many years in the hands of my Hon. and Learned Friend, the Member for Durham (Mr. M. A. Ta y lor), and is still in his hands, and I trust his vigilance w ill not cease to be dir ected to it. —(Hear, hear.) For reasons of a like kind, I pass over the great matter of the Criminal Law. That too, happily, since the time when my late friend, Sir Samuel Romilly, devoted his talents and experience to it, has been carried forward by my Hon. and Learned Friend the Member for Knaresborough (Sir J. Mackintosh), with more or les, success, until at length, by a narrow majority,. he opened the inquiry. On a smaller scale, and very limited nature, it has been followed up by the Right Hon. Gentlemai e who is now again Secretary of State for the Home Depart ment. It is not so much for any thing lie has actuall:, done, that I feel disposed to thank him, as for the counte nance he has given to the subject. lie has power to effect reforms which others hardly dare propose. His connec tions in the Church and State render his services in this department almost invaluable. They have tended to silenc e . the clamours that would otherwise have been raised against the reform of the law, and probably been fatal to it. If (which I do not think) lie were disposed to discontinue his labours in this field, be has for ever given the sanction of his name and example to the future exertions of others. Having gained so deservedly the gratitude of his country, I hope he will not disappoint its expectations, but proceed with increased zeal to extend his exertions over a wider space. Another reason why I purpose to avoid this part of the subject altogether, and to pass over it by wholesale, is to he found in the nature of this branch of the law. I do not think it right to unsettle the minds of those nu merous and ignorant classes, on whom it principally operates. It might produce no good effects if they were all at once to learn, that the Criminal Law in all parts was undergoing r e vision. —(Hear, hear.) I intend also to leave wholly out of my view the commercial law. It lies with in a narrow compass, and it is far purer and freer from defects than any other part of the system. This arises from its late origin. It has grown up within a few cen turies, and been formed by degrees, as the exigency of affairs required. Lastly, the law of real property forms no immediate subject for consideration ; not but what I have to propose may call for some changes in its administration, but I am flattered with the hope that the Right Honourable Secretary for the Home Department intends himself, on this subject, to propose certain measures, by which the working of the present system will undergo alterations ; and I cannot help here saying, that whatever the criminal law ewes to the energy and exertions and labour of the late Sir Samuel Romilly, I am sure that an equal debt has been incurred on the part of the law of real property, by the honest, patient, and luminous discussion which has been derived from one of the first conveyancers and lawyers this country has ever been able to boast, my Honour able and Learned Friend (the Solicitor-General) opposite, and those Members of the House who are conversant with law will easily understand that I am alluding to Mr. Humphreys.—(Hear, hear.)---With these exceptions, which I have now laid before the House, as shortly as I was Ales and for which I shall offer no apology, as it was absolutely necessary that I should do so, that I might make my purpose understood, I close this part of my subject; and I shall now proceed at once to show the purport of the motion, which I intend to submit to the House ; but in doing this I shall not enlarge, after the manner of some disquisitions that I have heard, on the infinite importance and high interest which belongs to the question, and the at tention which it should claim from us, whether considered as the representatives of the people, or as a part of the people themselves. This, however, Ido say, that if we take a view of the whole establishment of the country— be it civil, as it regards the GoVernment of the country, or the estates of the inhabitants—or be it military, as it regards the external position of the State : —Let us turn our eyes, Sir, t o what part of the system we may—to the Foreign portion, as it supports the peace of the country with the rest of the world—to the Domestic, as it makes the people respectable by its energies—to the Fiscal, as it provides for the exertions of the kingdom—or to the Mili tary, as it prepares the means ofsdefence for the whole ; and when we shall have surveyed all these, I will not say that they shrink into nothing when compared with the justice of the country, but I will say that they all derive strength and life from that justice, which is sup ported by you, as it was' invented by your, ancestors. The whole system of the State may, without exaggeration, be said to be mainly and principally dependent ou the manner in which justice is administered between man and man ; and he was guilty of no figure of speech, he in dulged in no metaphor, who said that the King, the Lords, and the Commons—the Army and the Navy, and all of which the State consisted, were made to bring twelve men into the box to listen to the law, and to decide by the evidence. This was the end of all Government. This was the use of all Government. This was the great purpose which alone could justify the usur pation on the liberty of the subject, and which only justified it, because it was necessary to the well doing of the great principle. I, therefore, invite every one to look round at the scene which I am about to present—to enter with me into the different Courts of Law, that they may see what the failures are which militate against the true establishment of justice—that they may see why the system is in certain parts found to be injured, and how the course of time has gradually led us, little by little, to depart from the course as originally planned and adopted. And, first, let us go into the Courts of Westminster Nall. The House is aware that (from whatever cause it may have arisen, and at that, most likely, we cannot get without a research into the reason of former proceedings) the Courts of Law are in the habit of receiving exactly the same sort of actions, and though the jurisdiction of each was originally confined within very narrow limits, their practice is nosy nearly the same. The Court of King's Bench was originally confined to the reception of actions, where violence was committed —such as trespasses by force and others, and of the pleas of the Crown ; but now, all actions were admissible through the medium of a legal fiction which had been adopted for that purpose, and by which addition, any case could be entered on the list of that Court ; by this fiction it is supposed, that every man is in the custody of the Marshal of the Court, and thus, by degrees, this Court has drawn over to itself actions, which really belong to, and are within the jurisdiction of the Court of Common Pleas. The Court of Common Pleas, however, in their exertions for busi ness, was not so fortunate as its rival ; for though it made a vigorous attempt under Lord Guilford, with that view, it never was able to succeed in obtaining Crown pleas ; and, if the House will give me leave here to read to them what a well-known writer—a writer as well known to my Ho nourable and Learned Friend opposite (the Solicitor-Gene ral) as to the inure obstruse and knotty points of his pro fession—has said on this subject, I will read to it a passage I find in " Roger North's History of the Life of the Lord Keeper Guilford." It appears from that, that the Courts of King's Bench, and of Common Pleas had quarrelled as to their respective practice; for, he says, " The two Courts being upon terms of competition, the King's Bench out witted the Common Pleas ; and it was by gaining an easy way of holding to special bail on latitats ;" and then, after describing the conduct of the Common Pleas, in retaliation, he says—" But the King's Bench was not so sterile of in vention, as to want the means of being even with that de vice, and therefore, they added in their writs ac eticon Billoe ;" and after this, he proceeds to describe the whole of the artifice, finishing with the Triecum in lege, which " carried it for the King's Bench ; which Court, as I said, run away with all the business." And what is the result of all this contention ? The theory of the law remains the sarne,while the practice has been subject to a series of altera tions. The Exchequer has likewise adopted the same course ; fur, though it was originally confined to the trial of Crown cases, it had, by the adoption of another fiction, the fiction of supposing that every body was a debtor to the Crown-,opened its doors to every suitor, and so drawn to itself the right of trying many cases that were never intended to be placed within its jurisdiction.-- But evliile all these Courts were in competition, one with the other, for the number of causes that should be entered on their list, in each there was a reason why there was a hitch in the entr y of actions. In the first place, the Court of Common Pleas shuts its d oors to some o f the practitioners )'levying from them at the coin nthe sum of 12s. 4d., which, though n is q u it e enoug h t o d ec ide a ieii cem en t t a o c ot very.f naction solicitor from go i n g into that Court, as h e h as to pay it anthe large law, sum, h out of his own pocket. But independently of this sum, which he has to advance, the Court requires that the whole expences should be advanced at a much earlier stags in the cause than the other Courts. And who is it that must advance this money ? Either the attorney himself, if it be his own cause, must pay the money out of his own p oc k e t, or , if he is acting as agent for a coun t r y prac titioner, he must draw upon his employer fur the demand. In the second place, clients and their attorneys will not be induced to carry causes into the Common Pleas, by the strict and rigorous monopoly that takes place among the legal practitioners of that Court. I have every wish to speak with all possible respect and reverence of the Learned Persons who take the lead in that Court, but as, no doubt, solicitors will have their favourites, and as, uo doubt, their clients will also have their favourites, it does not lead to an increase of the business of the Court of Com mon Pleas; the fact that the practice is not open to all, but in a great measure, and so to say, confined to the Seie grants alone ; and great as the learning of that body is known to be, well founded as their reputation is and ought to be, yet, nevertheless, that excellence, joined with the right they are e nabled to exercise, operate pro tanto, to keep away business from the Court; these are the three different causes which lessen the practice of the Common Pleas, and which must one day be remedied, before that. Court can hope to have an equal share of practice with the Court of King's Bench. The Exchequer, in like manner, has its drawbacks, though their system of operation is in quite another way. One reason why the Exchequer is not so good, arid does not enjoy a reputation equal to that possessed by the other two Courts, is because it is looked upon as a Court of ail sorts of practice ; it em braced, in a manner, equity and law—Crown Law awl Common Pleas; it receives within its jurisdiction the law between subject and subject, and the law between the sub ject and the Crown; all this tends to give the public a general distaste for the practice of this Court, and makes its business looked upon with the eye of sus picion—the natural--but I do not at all mean to say, the correct—inference drawn from all this variety of pro ceeding is, that what is done in so many ways, cannot be well done. I beg the House will observe, that Ido not say that it is so, for it is impossible that any set of men carp be more distinguished in their profession than the Judges who preside, or than the gentlemen who practise, in that Court ; but when I spoke as I have, I was giving what I understood to be the public opinion, arising out of the mixed business which is transacted in the Court of Ex chequer. But, Sir, there is another and mere obvious reason why this Court does not engage in so much business as the others, and this arises from the limited number of practitioners employed in, and belonging to, the Court.— If there is any reason to complain, as I have already observed, of the monopoly among the lawyers attached to tke Court of Common Pleas, there is much more cause for a similar complaint in the practice of the Court of Exchequer. The number belonging to that Court is confined to four attornies and sixteen clerks ; and none other are allowed to practise in the Court. if a country attorney wishes to take his suit into that Court, the only means by which it can be accomplished is by em ploying one of the privileged attornies of the Court, and by dividing with him the profits of the suit. And what is the consequence of this ? Wherever little business is trans acted, there will of course, be a tendency not to send to that Court the strongest and most luminous Judges. Little business requires little skill ; and little talent and ob servation will be the less likely to be mischievous : so in this way it happens that the Court of Exchequer is less re garded by those who have to appoint the Judges for it. Not that I mean to say that this is at all the case at present —quite the contrary ; but it has had weight in7past times and no doubt will give a tendency to the future. The Bench of that Court has not always been so well sustained as now; and it may be our chance to have Ministers who will say—" Oh, what does it signify whom we send to the Exchequer? there is little there for them to do;" and the more this notion comes to be acted upon, the more will that little decay, till there be uothiug left to be lessened. Thus then, Sir, it is : by the general system of suspicion which appears to pervade the public mind—by the unwise monopoly of the practice and business of this Court—from all these causes together, the Court of Exchequer has now scarcely any thing to engage its attention. The Judge goes down, and sits there for half an hour ; and if there should be an entry of six or seven causes to be tried, it is considered as a very large one : yes, Sir, in the Court of Exchequer six or eight causes is a large entry, while we know that Lord Ellenborough has had entered at one sitting five hundred and eighty-eight causes ; and that the present Chief Justice, Lord Tenterden, has had entered in his paper 540 odd. I mention these things, Sir, to illustrate my first point, that the competition of the Courts, and the free access to them by the public suitor, is merely a thing of theory, and that in practice it amounts to nothing. ..Expe riments have been tried to lighten the business of the Court of Kings Bench ; but I do not fad that any of them have answered the purpose for which they were instituted ; the first of these was introduced in 1821, by which it was ar ranged that the Chief Justice should sit in one Court, and a Puisne Judge in another, at the same time, but never had any arrangement failed more completely than that. The Court in which the Puisne Judge sat remained almost idle, while the other Court was as constantly preferred. A com plete action and reaction had been produced by this plan ; for while it had tended to make the one Court little no ticed, it had brought a press of business into the other, so that it was almost a hopeless matter to leave the choice of the Courts to the attorneys or their clients. Indeed, there was nothing to tempt them to take their causes into the other Court, as the sarnelaw was administered in both. This system, which was brought into action in 1821, was not, I believe, tried another season, or, at all events, never went beyond a season or two, after which it was given up as useless and of no avail. Another attempt has subsequently been made to relieve the Court of King's Bench from the press of Term business, which has always been very heavy upon it. This system is still going on under the Bill brought into the House by the Hon. Gentleman opposite ; and as the thing is required as a matter of course, the client having no choice, it cannot well fail; but I heartily wish that it had failed, for it is certainly one of the worst changes that has ever taken place. It is true that the great pressure of business requires that something should be done ; but it is equally true that the right thing has not yet been adopted ; for where the King's Bench sits, with the Chief -Justice to preside, there all suitors will necessa rily resort, and there every thing will be carried into effect which it is in the power of the Court to perform—there the public and the profession will attend, and there the business will be despatched with that consideration and so lemnity so suitable to the Court, and so requisite to the dignity of its office—there every thing is carried on openly to all mankind, with the eyes of the world di rected to their proceedings. Is not this so? And would not any one say that this must be the Court where the most important business was carried on ? And if, on the contrary, they were to go into the other Court, where the three Judges were sitting, and were to see that this Court was carried en in a sort of back room, where no one at tended that could possibly help it—where the only persons present, beside the Judges, were the Counsel and Attorney employed on either side of the cause that was pending; would not any one, Sir, say that the business in which it was engaged must be trifling and inconsiderable? These, I think, would he but natural conclusiens ; and yet, if the conclusion had been made exactly the other way, it would have been nearer the truth. All the really important busi ness of the Court is done in that room, and before those three Judges ; it is done in a corner, and, as I may say, behind people's backs.--That this is so, there can be no denying; and I certainly cannot think that it was the in tention of the Right lion. Gentleman to produce such an effect as his Bill really has induced. Thus we see, that while the most interesting matter by this arrangement is overlooked, trifling business and points of no importance are brought with all possible observation before the public ; a non .suit.- -a notice of motion against casual ejectment, or of leave to take a report before the Master—all of which are matters of course, and containing no general interest, and likewise matters that might be better done by one Judge than four—occupy the attention of the Court where the public is present; while special arguments on the other hand, of the utm os t i m port a nce, are heard in the private an dinsufficient way which I have already described— such as mandamuses, quo warrantos, and motions for criminal informations or new trials. I therefore cannot help thinking that I am seriously called upon to attack this system, which has now become a great and growing evil. But we are to be told that the Judges have no thne! I deny this altogether. Let us see how their tine is ern pmloayyesda.felyThheey are supposed to come to the Court at ten o'clock, and to remain there till four . Surel y this time forot timeth e transaction There aor are their busines s . proTnhoeunnwce'hdy have they not two reasons for this :—the one is, that bail must he taken layteonoeccoufrtliteeneJ occurrence, ,dges. Mr. Justice Bayley, no longer ago than last M on d a y, was occupied the w h ole day in the Bait Court; an d to -d a y ir,Mtrh. aJtustthiece House e oy m d a a y eas see not tha a t ble l to get m a away y ytilplrotweeeii twelve o'clock. I cite these instances of late am by no means disposed on ondbrreosad m sup id a statement, an h t u s t . that ln I am these examples, then, we see that in one case a whole day wa s lost, and in another two hours, mer e ly for the purpose of attendi ng t o t r ifling business, which might just as well be transacted by a Commissioner, or even by any Barrister of ten years' standing. The other reason Noy the Judges' time was mis-spent, was because they had to attend to the squabbles of attorneys between thermelm a and,vvbich proper- ly belonged to chamber practice, as barristers rarely attended; and this took them away from the Court at three o'clock ; ly s'teelatidgaet of thereal transacting nosinessresenbtoufs so that, in fact, while their nominal time is from ten till contended, ° which, . the i n a what, Sir, is the ‘ e, V kn a no s aug r h edueed to three, or at from during six ho-e..s,i:ehroebdtv4imo,.aes four, twel, e they th t h a r r ee e o b n7 , certainly : for though int' con sequenceosmayfoubor et hours t fairlyhs ? thy Bail Court could be tr a nsacte4 by a Com m i ss i oner or Bar rister, it may, perhap s, be aoubted whethe r the chamber practice does not require a Judge to perform i t. But, me though this may be a sufficient excuse fc!r th e case as it stands at present, a remedy may still be found. For my own part, Sir, I frankly confess that I am one of those who do not see the paramount excellece that some !supp ose to be vested in the number twelve ; although Lord Coke h as spoken of it with a similar degree of rapture which an ab stract Algebraist entertains when he dwells upon the magic of a three or a nine. Twelve appears to have been the number to which he, in his cranium, attaches everything vital and of importance; but as I, unfortunately, do not possess the brilliant lights under which he has been in fluenced, 1 cannot help thinking that fourteen is a much better number than twelve —(a laugh ) —although it is not so good a number for division, and although I cannot quote the fourteen Apostle, or the fourteeu tables ; by the way, though, fourteen will divide by seven, which is more than twelve will.—( A laugh.) And .1 - 2 number fourteen has the still greater advantage in this case of which lam speaking, that although it is not so beautiful or ele gant a number as twelve, it contains two more. (Laughter.) But then I shall be told, that the original number of our Judges is twelve. What then? How is it possible that twelve Judges, who were sufficient to do the business of public justice, when the number of causes on their list was sixty, can be more competent to it now when the causes have increased to six hundred—nor do I here dread the hacknied charge of innovation. Here Tam no innovator— the great innovator is time—time maximus rerun inno vator—time, which has multiplied the quantity of business to be done. We are not innovators who would increase the number of Judges in proportion to the enlarged amount of judicial business, but they are innovators who would have the original number to stand still while the causes are daily increasing—they who would employ only the same small number of workmen after the harvest has accumulated fourfold, sixfold, and more. What I want is, that a proportion of equality and fitness should be kept up, adequate to the demand ; and the advantage of this position will become the more evident, when I come to consider the system of the Welsh Judges, which I believe to be the worst ever carried into effect.—(Hear, hear. )_ Why should not those Judges be received among the others, and divide the two Welsh Circuits with the old ones? not that I mean that they should always take these circuits, but each might take them iu his turn, and the Old Bailey business would also be more satisfactorily gone through. There are one or two other observations, Sir, which I have to make relative to the Judges, and which I may as well mention now that lam upon that subject. I confess, Sir, that I am one of those who are sorry that the payment of the Judges now takes place by a fixed salary, and net through the medium of fees ; for, although, abstractedly speaking, the former may be the better way, yet,las long as men are men, and as long as it is a principle in operation, that when men are placed on the Bench, the door is shut against them as to all hope of future preferment, there will be, where there are no fees, nothing to excite or stimulate them to action ; on the contrary, all this irksomeness of office will come upon them, and they will naturally feel inclined to work as little as possible. That such must be the ease, I feel certain ; and I therefore think that this extra inducement ought to be sparingly applied. I think that a moderate ; I say, Sir, a moderate—a very moderate amount of fees ought to he granted ; and that, at all events, if such a mode of pay ment be granted, it ought not to be made to depend•on the length of a suit, or on the number of stages through which it may pass. I know, Sir, that this is a doctrine that will not meet with encouragement. from the reformers of the law ; but I nevertheless give it as my candid opinion, founded on observation. I may mention, that some friends of mine agree with me in this point, and think that this concession ought to be made, who are amongst the soundest, most real and most zealous supporters of the necessity of an altera tion and reform in the Courts of Law. The other observation that I have to make, with respect to the Judges, is one of a nature entirely different to the last. The great object of every Government, and of the Ministers of every Government, its making choice of Judges, ought to be to obtain the most skilful and learned men in their profession, and, at the same time, men whose charac ter gives security for the pure administration of justice. I almost feel ashamed, Sir, to have troubled you with such a truism, but the House will presently see the application that lam about to make of it. Sorry am I to say, that our system of election sins in both these particulars. The office of Judge is one of so important, serious, and respon sible a nature, that one would suppose that the Ministers of Government would naturally require that they should be at liberty to make their selection from the whole field of the profession—that no part of that field should be ex cluded from having a just claim of being weighed in the balance—and that the wider that field could be extended, the more likely would it be that their choice would fall on those whose talents and character render them deserving of such elevation. Who would not suppose that a Ministry would eagerly seek to have all men o p en to them, that the most learned and accomplished might be selected? Who would not suppose that their object would be to select those men who were accustomed to take large and ex tended views of the numerous cases that continually called for decision? • e best Judges in my time, with the e xception of the present L ord Chief Justice, than whom no man can discharge his office snore excellently and more efficiently, have all of the m. been previously dis tinguished as leading advocates in their,profession, while yet at the Bar ; but that is no . r . eason why the Ministers should have any limi t in giving all through the Bar wherever conspicuous talent may lead them, of whatever nature it may happen to be. But, although it is obvious and undeniable, and although the extension of the Minis ters' search cannot fail to be attended with public advan tage, is it the case that any such general search takes place ? True, no law prevents such a thing ! True, the doors of Westminster Hall stand open to the Ministers, and they are at liberty to choose any man, be Isis opinions what they may, or be his party what it may, and no man would refuse to obey their call. But did they make such choice ? Did they ever place their election on a man whose politics they knew to be opposed to their own? They were at li berty to make such a selection, if they thought proper, but there is no law that compels them to do so, and without that what Minister will give up what he holds to be one of his privileges? Men must be on one side of the great political question to become Judges, and Bo one may hope to be elected to that dignified office, unless lie belongs to a party agreeable to Government—his seat on the Bench must depend on his supporting the one great prin ciple of the Administration. But perhaps, Sir, I may be carrying this distinction too far, and it may be said that the Ministers do not proceed to such lengths as to expect that the opinion of a Judge shall exactly coincide with theirs in political matters ; but if so, at all events, it must be ad mitted on the other hand, that if a man belongs to a party op posed to Government, he can expect nothing but exclusion, whatever his talents may be, or however conspicuously he may shine in all the most Important departments of his profession. No one, I think, will venture to deny this or, if they do, I defy them to show me any instance in the course of the last hundred years of a man opposed to the principles of Government being elevated to the Bench. Never have I heard of such a thing in Engand ; never in England, Sir—though, on the other hand, we have, per haps, known instances of men who have changed their party to come at the Bench.—(Laughter, and hear, 13!t` r ; ) Well. I do not• wish to press any thing on this Buhiseuccl; but, as the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite h as doi rn the high honour to himself by his proposed al teratie t n ` further law, I wish that he would carry them some 7 1 :f all foot , and set the Judges on the most indepenoo-beea ado ings. In Scotland a more liberal p olicy & I i (Lord E Pt: nt, ed, and Lord Cranstoun and Mr. Gothsof them even who there sit on the Bench , are in more party men than Lord Eir th this country • (a laugh), though, uisfortuosfc Ysd ei . r party is now what is called the wr.`!s A laugh.) part of the_ For a personal instance o f the In justice of this system, it is well known that one of the most learned, ta lented, experienced , and accomplished advocates at the bar, whose elevation to the bench would he bailed by men of all parties as a blessing, .that the promotion of that able' and distinguished.lawyer is impeded by the fact of his be longing to a political party, and honourably standing faith ful to it. A person so _eminent, so universally known to Rfeuaaieetldnlf:art 1 n the tostleld - as. . , political eoverian;nt. My attack, Sir, is net on per but on the system—on a system that his net been broken and that mast conti through for a lohg series of years, nually have operated tO the detriment of the public edvan tags. By there adhering' to a system of perry peliee, parrs's , / and illiberal—you lose all those men who are likely to make good Judges, and get in their st ea d a succes sion of Tory Judges and politicians. ; Why t h en , I say, should the Benah be uniformly composed of per sons wholly devoted to the Ministry ?—ir, I right rather say, why should it be composed of men avowedly devoted to Teiyism ; fur, of that party, they hes, always hitherto been t emposed, with the solitary exceptioes of one or two short intervals ; " few,' I regret to add, " and far betweete"....-(A laugh.)----Once or twiee, J believe, in the matter of a sniarter of a ceusury, when the Whigs have, perhaps, for the space of six months, essetrived to slip into uffire--(Laughter.)—With these solitary ra , , ceptions; the Bench has been uniformly filled by men of as certain class of pelitieel opinion-. And why, 1 ask again,- should that be so ? The consequences of such a systems are, I repeat, injurious alike to the profeseion, and to the . public. You, at the same time, are guilty of the blind folly of limiting, to a most culpable extent, the number of those from whom you are to make the seleetinn of your Jud ges , politicians ; and not, as they ought to be. and 4,. ; thetY while you snake the whole Bench part7-rnen trml might be supposed to be—impartial, uyeieht, am eon ecientieus Administrators of Justice.—(Hear, rear. p-4- speak , lam sure, with impartiality. I defy, indeed, any" man who attends Weetminster Hall, to say it is net the fact, that whenever any Member of the profession is called upon to give his opinion in any question where the interests of r a ist;o iconcerned,information, 0 n st , 'l , . o c r is e a r n y i t o t t r wi th criminal refer e v il , c o si challenea. any lawyer, I say, to deny that the tsmtoenh c: uja. at C i l libelorl usual yn o tt , certain n 10 , w observation in such cases is, "Oh, we are all 'hat is the disposition of the Judges."— In every consultation, indeed, upon sue , cases, we proceed The Bar have an opinion, whether well founded or not, with a knowledge of what will be the leaning of the Judge. that such is the tendency of the mind of the Judge, and they act under its influence. Nothing, indeed can be more natural than the influence of such opinions, The Judges are raised to their eminent situations because tht . y have ' held such opinions. They know that they were raisej for those opinions, and they adopt the course most agreeable' in the eyes of those to whom they owed that elevation. — What I wish fur, however, is, not a Judge raised to the Bench on account of his extensive acquaintance with, and adherence to, a certain system of politics, but aJudge promo ted over his compeers from his profound knowledge of, and extensive acquaintance with, the laws of the country, and the practice of its Courts—(Hear, hear.)—l say again, I speak disinterestedly on this subject. —I have no ambi tion to become a Puisne Judge myself. 1 could not, in deed,afford to be one if I had the abilities for the situation I speak not for myself. I speak for the sake of the pro fession, and speak for the sake of the Law. I speak for the sake of justice, and in the hope of conferring an impor tant benefit upon the country ; when I say that these things ought to be reformed, and I do hope, not only from the diffusion of more liberal opinions and the introductioo of better habits of action, but still more from the prin ciples avowed by the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Peel), and of whose cordial assistance I entertain a confi dent expectation that this practice to which I have now allud ed, will no longer remain smatter of painful observation to the public, and of reproach to the Government—( Hear.) — I am afraid I tire the _House by these uninteresting 'a:tails (trio of no, no ; and heat, Lear)—but I feel the subject ' so vitally important, that I limit trespass still further upon its attention. ' I now proceed to say a few words upon the subject of the Welsh Jurisdiction. Befote, I state toy ob jections to that jurisdiction as it is maintained at present, I may be permitted to observe, that I see no renson why Wales should have its laws administered in any smeller dif ferent from that of England; or why the people of Wales should have their rights of property, of liberty, aagi of life, determined otherwise than they are determined it: Eng- , land. England has its Judges regularly appointecLaud paid,. and pensioned, and why should not Wales be in an equany favourable condition ? ? In Wales many very able men pre- North somewhere observes of the English Judges, they are side over the administration of the laws; but, as Roger not seated upon a cushion. In the first place, the Welsh Judges have no allowance upon their retirement ; and the consequence, therefore, is, that they continue earn the Bench until they become much less fit for the performance of their duties than those :who have the means of e fe lti ,,i a o l n ly ai re m p e r n e , lien a s n i d ble. giving up the fatigues of their profession when 2:fleeted by age or infirmity. The W. , lsh Judges, in tact, are generally composed of men placed in two situations, either content themselves by going the two Creuits, whale when appointed ar e ail, l t i o , theof cours e, Bench r P l ' i - e 4) ; their duty requires, and then shaking for the rtenainder of their time into the mere country gentleman—a course et iife which, it is evident, renders them of all others the least fit to exercise the functions of a Judge ; or they con= time, after their appointment, to practise at the bar in their profession. In the latter case I say they do so much the worse, for they are then but half an Advocate and half a Judge, and by the practice indiscriminately of their two very opposite qualities, they become not near so good a barrister, and not half so good a Judge.—(Hear, tear.)--- In one of these two situations of the retired country gentle ,nan, or the practising barrister, one and all of the Wrists Judges are uniformly to he found. They always too, go ma terial objection to their present constitution. One of them the same circuit, and that is, in my opinion, a most for instance, goes the Carmarthen Circuit, and another the Brecon, and a third the Chester, but always the same ; and what is the necessary, and 1 may say, unavoidable conse ;pence of this? Why, they get acquainted with all the Magistrates, all the country gentlemen, all the attor neys, all the people of property, aye too, awl with nearly the greater number even of the witnesses in the very causes they hive to try in their capacity as Judges. By this kind of collision and connection, they acquire such partialities, and take up such prejudices--(Hear, hear.) as never yet have cast a shade over the conduct of those twelve distinguished persons who distribute justice upon the Circuits of England.—(llear, hear.) These Judges have as I have said, no retiring pensions if they cease to attempt a performance of their duties, and of comae they continue to totter along in office, until they become totally unfitted for the work which they are called upon to per form. Now, mark the result of this. On the last Autumn Circuit in Wales, there were forty-six causes set , down for trial. Of these the Honourable Judges got able to . through twenty-six, the others went off as remunets to the Spring Assizes ; and of these remancts a considerable number stood over from the Assizes hefo h re 7Larsa t ee h d,d e ,er A e t s u t m ow n.: d, (Hear, hear, &ear.) That fact, I think, speaks volumes upon the administration of justice in Wake:: lof e Benches wilat is If you ask me how this crying evil is to be reformed, I lam sure refer you to the evidence of what l i i l a t s er b v e c e n u ti d o one in B imilau ages. u P e r Judgessons the Principality can afford an extravazaueie y i f th e C . o'.l a r l t: d o , i: 0 u L a will a c t tw_h a el l e. l it; l b i I .) : i e l s b s : c e . that the will for such a purpose ; and I am equalliyt prove it the cheapest pensions which —(Hear.) At all events I say sgtan' give two Judger: at least six . ei .; keeth t6nlthe aires9d o f f ' having the busi. to the twelve whirl, au have Chamber-practice in succession , for the despatch of avail business, say, the your selves of the labours of hours a dry iu all g y c o s u g e called the sitting at;ie Welch J whole system sitting into , Judgeship, by dividing the whole Principelitri two Circuits ; and let one of these ness of every Court 0 each i in the Sarn e r o n f cr and under the same regulations as those ef the Circ:' England. This would be the proper re , ;,.,„iy for the evils which I have attempted to describe; dad i o s i sure that the expence, while it must be .:fully ~ o , o t erba anent' by the advantages of such a change, never wo additional./ ' eould be made a subject of complaint. And here I maybe permitted to s ay , that, in common with all professional inen, I should much desire to see some alteration in the fixation of the terms by the Moons. Ido not mean to make any alteration as to the festival of Easter. Let it be RO understood ; but I do w ish some better regu- I °lnn as to the times of the Terns, f or in the pr e _ sent method 't can find nothing but a lack of wit, and e plentiful stock of most injurious folly. Let the Term at Easter be dated a certain time after some east, which is not moveable, and then the gentlemen of _ ;he profession may have some knowledge of their proceed ings.i Leave Easter where it is. Let it still be settled Iby the renewal of the moon,as before. Ido not wish to i touch it, for I still recollect when an attempt was made I We think the Hon. Gentleman said by Lord Erskine]-- o bring in a Bill for an alteration of that festival. How •uccessfully it was opposed, from a consideration of the ~,r iessee c omfort and satisfaction which all Christians must ', r ive from feeling that they are solemnizing the festival of Faster at the same time.—(Hear, and a laugh.)—Let these ,ersons still continue to have this comfort. I Flo not wish to deprive them of it, but let the term be no longer dated