The Sun. — London, England, 1819-10-15 00:00:00

RADICAL REFORM.. A DIALOGUE. llonor—Pray, neighbour, clo tell me wbat is n a di c At Reform / FRANK—The rooting up of all Religion and all order, IlonGH—Why then is it called Reform ? , FItANK—To humbug simple folk :with a fine and make thcm suppose some good may come of it . IlonGE-1 should like to know the true name to rAii it by. FansK—Revolution ; because it would upset all our security under the Law, and expose us to the savage of mobs and murderers. HODGE—Who are the friends of this Radical Retorts, FRANK—They only who deserve the gallows, end would rather profit by violence and plunder than by quiet honest industry. Hot:son—And if they accomplished it, what would be the consequence FRANK--That DO mass, woman, or child could tali their life or any thing else their own. nonce—And what good do the Radicals ex-1 pect to be done by it FLIANK—That we should all be able to live without work, each man to be his own matter, and to make Laws for himself. Honuc—Bless my heart, neighbour, what a fine thing that would be FRANK—Aye — to talk about--in such speeches as Master Hunt, awl the likes of bins, snake is their carts and waggons. But as for accomplish ing it ! Heaven keep thee, lad, it is quite an im possible thing, and never was since the world be gan. Nonce--Why not i FKANik—lf nothing is to he earned by working, nobody will work : and if nobody works, nobody can eat : for all property has been gained by Forme labour or othEr, of honyor mind : aced it is not.only,fair to the individual who has gained it, that he and is posterity should 'enjoy his gains, Lent good for socic'y ako, 14OnGe,=—Well—I should like to make laws for myselt, nevertheless. FRANK—But as every body else would have the same right, you may gne•s the chance your laws %yogi(' have of being ottey'd. Some strong thief may make a law that your cow or pig, or furni ture, shall be his prnprrty ; and until you are p!ronger than he, you tan wake no law to have hick again. llonGE—Why, Frank, the Orators have said a deal abont poor man's /ow; but I bad no notion it was after this fashion. FRANK--Poor MAU'S law, 83 they call it, is the vnrst sort of 14w in the world :—I had rather Lave rich man's law, for toy share ; for, when men of property mike the law, we may be sate property will he protected ; whereby every honest iodn,trions man will .he encrinraged to earn Money, and to obtain property—by which meirto he may choose the law-makers, and perhaps . . 4 what von seem so desirous of doing, flodge4 nom - ie.—How's that . "Fr +Na-- . .Alake laws for himself —Rut if all-are to wake laws alike, we shill have nothing but mob'law; and then the weakest must go to the willi• . 1-rotioe-1 begin to think that would not be so ple3s4titeven for the strongest. These Writers and Orators seem rather upon the deceitful order, 'reckon: 'T were well to know a little of , their privive 1)!stoly. FRAtm.—You know who the great Leaders -are? Honott—'ln be sure I do.- 7 There be Nit.. Hunt, Mr. Wooler, Sir Francis Burdett, and Mr,. Car tell me any thing about them FRANK---A little (Jr so num was a brewer at Bristol, wlit•re, it is said that lie sold uuwhole- wine beer. Thev know him well at Bristol , ; he set tip for a Parliament-mart, and was Well, beaten both timcs. Honer:—But he is very charitable, is he not ? • FIIANK-:-01) yea—vastly charitable. He took soother mao's wife into his house. I wish. though, his charity had he l otit_at - home, and kept his own wife there instead of turnin. , her out to make room for another's. Hon Ge-11 nly dame . ,6earA .this, she'd never _ work a Iteloim flag, nor alike a Reform speech again, as long ms she lived., Wooler a bird of the same feather, hey, Er'Aurl N.—He !—t he, negro 7 looking chap t,--He is only striving to get rich by selling his paler and Hie more dissatisfied folks. ate with every thing that is,not seditiOuS,9f.Vl 1 11111111111 l papers he sells. . lioDoE—Thou lost not giiie a good word to any of 'hem But 6ir ?- 7 -Snrely ht is the pour maii's hien(' ?—His-inipreis down for two hundred guineas to the sufferers at Manchester. FaAais.—Ave truly—but for another guess pur pose than chat icy. The 'Baloner got afraid aud of ilitot, who was - doing . him Out with the mob ; so he speculated for - a Couple of hundred guineas' worth of popularity. ilor)Ga—And you don't think the giving so lare a, swot any proor of benevolence ? FRANK—I must understand the motive first.— Nobody ever save a penny of the Baronet's giving to the sufferers in Lord Wellington's Victories abroad, or Lord Nelson's ; or tp the poor ‘Vests;ers in the time you remember of our deep distress at home. 1 should have called that charity to be Lute : 7 -bnt where other purposes were to be an swered, he was ready enough with his guineas at Manchester. They who suffer for supportin; the laws, and they who suffer for resisting thew, are very &tier ent objects with some folk. HODOE—Bot his liont;ur is a great advocate for Reform in Parliament, and mortally hates all election tricks. Fa.sNa.—ExcPpt at his own election, lad : wh, t ',ere has been money ro.ttigh flying about and as for swearing !--AA the isleworth :shout that. Iluvoli—Wvll, tell we something about Alt. Cdr INK--He is nuder prosecution for printing Lc4d rc,i4lig bittsplActuuus books the work Of WILL i m pi ou s o re tch T„,%, Paine. Itut 111,c mitch t,t a man while he is on his trial, be be fit ver EC) Lad. HoDGE--That's fair enough, FR k K-y ern are too heuiest to 1118 t your judgment upon any body in such a Cal4C ; beCil Ilse the Jury should be left to t h e i r own opi n i o n. I wish our itadicai Orators had been as Iliougiitful, before they accused the Manchesier 'Yeomen of murder. FRANK—Right, my lad—but you seem Still R little tiotib , tgot or su ? HoDGE—Why, I WAS thiohlog a b ou t [l uti c s plan of dividiug propetty alitotL4 should like a ten- acres or so, vvoitudily-7 , 0 I should. FUANK—Weiii talk ilium tlito to-morrow, after vvotk. R,lnciriher to the mean time the charac ters of limit and hi, fellows i and reckon to your selt viliAt good is likely to come from Mob-go vernment, tiissvii Religion, and Blaspbem iug GOD.—Fare•vcl% LONDON JOURNALS. - rZ.,I FitOM THE W3r.stNc; rtil'EßS OF THIS DAY. [The New Times.] The whole tialton is now sensible of the into lerable evil id large and indiscriminate Public: Meetings ; and there can be no doubt but that one of the first acts of the Legislature on its as sembling l‘ 111 t)e to provide a remedy for this evil, and iberehy secure the more effectually to the susject the constitutional exercise of the right of petition. The Reformers, however, are not sa tisfied to leave us to our past experience of the public inconvenience, loss, and alarm which such Meetings necessarily occasion ; hut we learn that they are straining every nerve to bring about their long-meditated scheme of Simultaneous Meet ings throughout the country befote the meeting of Parliament. Delegates and Missionaries for this purpose have lately been in London from— Gla,gow, Paicley, Carlisle, 'Newcastle, Hull, Leeds, Hali fax, Macclesfield, Manchester, Oldham, Preston, Blackhurn, Leeh (Potteries,', Derby, Sheffield, Nottingham, Leicester, Coventry, Birmingham, Bristol, Norwich, Exeter, and Ports mouth. The day fixed upon for the first attempt of this kind it, we are informed, the Ist of November ; after which they propose to meet regularly once a fortnight, until they obtain what they arc pleased to call a tedrers of grievances. [Morning Post.] At the conclusion of the trial yesterday, Carlil. (who had previously retired from the Court) was taken into custody, and committed to the Comp ter. Many of the crowd who bad assembled near Ciuildliall remained in front of the building long alter the termination of the proceedings. Soule gas-pipes there were being cleansed from the foul air, and enlightened by the blaze from one of these, in the absence of the culprit, the gentry formed themselves. into little circles, and amused each other with discussions on law, politics, and theology, kt 4q Fleet . -street, before Cathle's house, a great concourse of people appeared. Many of these were pressing forward to purchase the pubr lications there exhibited for sale, and all were .looking out after the Principal, whom some re ,ported to be up stairs, though others ahnounced the fact of his being. then in tht Compter. Those who made their way into the shop stated, oh coming out, tl► ,t . Paine's %yolks ought be obtained there that night, b.u,►t, that the whole would .he withdrawn in ,the morning.• The cry of " Carlile for ever" was occasionally raised. by, few ; but generally the mob seemed sint_of,spiiits at the. result of the. trial, and hovered abbot the" Tem ple of Reason" in silent regret for the Loss .of. its high • Trhe l'imes.l , , • • Letters, dated Sept. 24, were received yesterday from Cadiz. In that city awl its vicinity the yel low fever still iiged — with undiminished violence. Oo the 23d and" 24th of September the deaths at Cadiz were from 66 ,to 68 each day. In the Isle s 1 Leon, on , the 23d, the deaths we( e 39. It was repotted at Cadiz . that the fever had made its appearance in the city of Cordova.' The Hor net, from the United States, with despatches, was Jiff Cadiz on the 21st ult., but the state of the city not allowing her to anchor there, she had proceededld Alalag"a. The grand eiPedition postponedlillithe beginning of January this is the earliest day named in any of the letters, but a very general belief prevailed, that its objects were wholly abandoned. Extract of a Letter from York,,dated Tuesday . evening On, my arrival its tots city, I found every one of its itthabitants whorn4 conversed' with unwilling, I - had almoit said.onableti to con verse upon any other subject thau.that.of the coun ty meeting which is to be held here on.the ensuing Thursday. Their expectation 'Oat the Meet ing will be more nutuerous than any'Which has taken place io the county sini.V tbe — celebrated Meeting of 1780 . ; and their boaici IS . , that if the numbers 'answer their expectation, it will be productive of 'the sknie beneficial results to the country. AmOng the rtquiiitionists are to be found some -of 'the stubboruest Tories in the 'county. Both yesterday and to-day deliberations have been held by the chiefs of the Ministerial party regarding what is the wisest condu,:t for them to adopt on Thursday 'next : and over these deliberations the Lords Harewhod, Gran rlsatn, and Lascelles have presided, and have been supported by Sir H. Carr Ibbetson, Sir T. Lister Kaye, Stuart 4Voriley, one of the County Members, and Mr. Duocome, of Duncoute-park. What has beets the result of their delibe• rations I cannot inform you with any degree of certainty, as they have been held with closed doors. I only know that they have taken place, and that report says, that they have resolved not to enter the Castle 7 -yard, on Thursday, but to sign a counter declaration. It is also currently reported this evening (but the report has no claim to credibility), th a t Ihey wish to 'compromise the matter with the requisitionists. It is ssid, that Sir F. Burdett, who is at resent staying with Walter Fawkes, at Faroley -hall, and who has some properly in this county, will be fp rselit ou Thortday newt, and intends to addiess the Free huideto.'!--(//iid.) THEA'I'I3IC.It. It EGIST E R. Performed bast TIIEWUX ROYAL, Dituity-Lne.—Wild Oats : 'Royer, Mr. Elliston ; Lady Amaranth, Mrs. W. Weit. After which, No Song No. supper. TnEaTnE RovAL, CoyenT-GAnnex.—The Maid of the Mill: Lord Ainsworth, Mr. Philipps; Patty, Miss M. Tree. After which, The Gamine-King. TO COIMESPONDENTS. The Letter of ScEstcus, on a subject highly interesting to Puntic TIIEATRES of every description, is unavoidably postponed till to-morrow.—lGNoTus, on DIVINE ItEVELA voN, is also unavoidably deferred till to-morrow. PRICE 01 TIM DAY AT r STOCKS ELVE o'CJ JCR. Bank Stock 3 per Cent. Red. 671 68 1011 104. 3 per Cent. Cons. 681 i l i India Bonds 13$. I Is. 12s. pr. 31 per Cent. 77A Exch. Bills, 2d ... is. ts. dis. 4 per Cents..... 85U 86 Siii Oniniwn I dis. Bank Lung Ann. 17i 15-16th$ COll3. for Account .. 681 6911 MAILS. ARRIVEL-1 Dublin, 4 . Waterford, I Gottenburgh, 1 Flanders. Dus-1 Waterford, 1 Guernsey and Jersey, HIGH WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE TOMORROW. Morning, 0 minutes after 0. I Eveniug, 20 minutes after 12. THE SUN. SULEM QUIS DICERS FALSUSI AUDEAT ? LONDON, FRIDAY, OCTOBER 15, 1819. We received this morning the Paris Papers of Tuesday last.—The following are extracts : " PARIS, OCT. 12.--The King yesterday transacted business with the Minister for Foreign Affairs, and afterwards took an airing to Argeu- " The Electoral College of Corsica have elected as Members of the Chamber of Deputies, Lieu tenant-General the Count Sebastiani, and M. 'lmpolitic), formerly Director of Registration at Ajaccio. " It is stated to be certain, that M. Maret, Duke de Jiassano, who is at present at Geneva, is about to return to France. " It appeals by a Census of Rome, that in 1818 the population of that city was 133,812, and that in 1819 it is 134,161, being an increase of 349. In 1818, there were 1,183 marriages, 3,944 baptisms, 6,868 deaths ; in 1819, 1,440 marriages, 4,299 baptisms, and 6,304 deaths. " The vintage commenced a week since in the Department of la Haute Marne, and the produce surpassed the utmost expectations formed of it. The wine is so plentiful that it is difficult to know what to do with it. The price of casks has suddenly risen, and those who bad not pre viously obtained a sufficient quantity are in the greateit embarrassment. " The Duke de Berry is recovered from his in disposition. " M. Ramolino, one of tin new Deputies for Corsica, is Cousin German to Madame Letitia Buonaparte. FIVE PER CENTS. Monday ... :69 f. 90 s. DEFERRED STOCK Of the 22d March, 1817, 92 f. 5S a. 28d Sept. 1817, 92d March, 1818, $8 1. 55 e. 22d Sept. 1818, B6l. 55c. 22d March, 1819,' ' 84 f. 55 a. 22d Sept. 1819, B2 f. 60c. 44 CARLSEUIIII, OCT. 6.—A Grand Ducal Or donnance published here to-day, pronounces the final dissolution of the Landwehr •f Baden. " BRaLIN, OCT. 2.—The Students of all the Pittisian Universities have been absolutely for bidden front attending a General Meeting of the Association of Eurschenshoff, which appears to have been summoned by Circulars. SEPT.. 30.—A Royal Order has been published to-day, directing the arrest of all deseiters from the Expeditionary Army at Cadiz, in order to prevent their spreading the yellow fever in the interior of the Kingdom. - !. ". VIENNA, OCT. 6.—The Archduchess Caro line, Consort of Prince Frederic of Saxony, set out yesterday morning for Saxony. " There is again a report of an intended inter view between the Emperor and Empress of Aus tria and the King and Queen of Bavaria, ou the frontiers of the latter Kingdom." New York, Philadelphia, and Baltimore Papers arrived this morning to the 16th September. (From the Philadelphia Paper to the Bth September.) DECLARATION OF THE INDEPENDENCE OF TEXAS. The Lousiana herald contains a copy of a De claration issued on the 23d June, by the Supreme Council of the Republic of Texas. The Citizens of Texas have long indulged a hope, that in the adjustment of the boundaries of the Spanish pos sessions in America,.and of the territories of the United States, they should be included within the limits of the latter. - The claims of the United States, long and strenuously urged, encouraged this hope. The recent Treaty between the United States and Spain has dispelled art illusion too long fondly cherished, and has roused the Citizens of Tex,,s. They have seen themselves, by a Curt- VelltiQU to which they ~Sets: Lo party, literally bandmml to Cie dotnioion of 11,e Cro,cn Spain, and left a prey. Animated by a jvst c °l " fidenee in the goodness of their can?e, they 10 " prepared themselves to meet and firmly to ustain ary conflict in which this Declaration may ins . "" them. (From the Daily Adrrrtizer of the 15th Sept.) The Reports of the Blltimore Board of H" 114 are as follow : Deaths. Malignant Fever , Sept. 7, - 20 10 -8, - 17 S -9, - 24 5. The deaths in Charleston doting the week en'l• ing September 8, were 54 ; of the yellow fever 36' In Ne►w York no new cases of fever were rg e ported to the Board of Health on Friday last• (From the Boston Advertiser of Sept. is.) We have received, by way of ['overman, inte l ‘ ligence from Lima, as late as the 21st Ar il. Lord COCHRANE had not renewed his attack ° I) Callao and the Royal fleet, but was still hovering on the coast of Peru. On the 16th he appeor eti f off Chuncey, a small town to the leeward Lima, and seemed disposed to make a landiga The Royalists bad made requisite preparatio o ' The Viceroy of Peru addressed a circular letter t° all the Civil and Military Officers of the Vic V royalty, informing them of the dreadful fore er perienced by General ORDONEZ and 39 oili er Spanish Officers, who bad the misfortune to 1)6 taken prisoners by the Revolutionists at the (Dv, asterous battle of Macbie, and who were cruci l l murdered on the Bth of Feb. by VINCENT D' f ' . rots, the Governor of that place. The Public must have been so disgusted tatty the proceedings on the Trial of CAELILE, 05 far as relates to the Defence, that no comment is ye ' cessary on our part. Toe conduct of t i ' e JUDGE, 116WCVer, should not pass without a worm tribute of approbation from the Nation at larg e ' He supported THE LAW and the Itat.totort of tit° Land with the firmness which conscious W ill and rectitude must have excited, and at the O r % time with that forbearing temper, which was 11 ' natural effect of religious sincerity. Tbe also conducted themselves with most laotia bi forbearance, though it was impossible for s ;' °l4 at times not to express their horror, and their backs with indignation on the revoll i " nature of the Defence. The whole of the t ist ceedings abundantly proves that the impa rt' manner in which Justice is administ.red in °I Country is thoroughly consistent with the folleit practical latitude of popular freedom. It MR. S4RRIFF VARKINS.—We should regret -I ' 4 we have not' room fur the Report of the fl i g;, Hon. the LORD MAYOR, 'presented by bii 1 ship on the 7th inst. to the Court of Aldertol; complaining of Mr. Sheriff PARk',NS, if we 6 11° 1 , not in that case have been obligee to insert , answer of Mr. Sheriff PARKINS, Whie4 a ppear° t , ,us to be a disgusting compound of Ragical sense and pertinacity. It appears, that ,his 11 • dical Sheriff refused to observe the ceretmoigd, respects usually paid to the LORD MAiroa, " ) tendance at the Exchequer, Such is his sense°ll4 dignity of his Office, and of the respect due tot iii City; and that he declined to invite the Baro lls° Majesty's Exchequer, to the customary enter"' of ment, immemorially given on the. swearing; ifl o the Sheriffs. Such is his hospitality. We pf csi iic i, that the Livery in general, who are neve r tive ir. liberality, will not be inclined to re- Radical Sheriff. I gor: Nottwicx.—We received a Letter from , g cr evict] this morning, dated Oct. 14, stating 111-011 a Meeting of the Subscribers. of the Re (l , ‘ i Room, at the Castle Inn, in that City, beisof the 13th inst., it was unanimously resolved',4o: stating strong grounds for the Measure, tha t Old Times he not permitted again to ea ter ~, room and that the New Times be taken f place." —The conduct of the City of Norrvic l , the INlatichestet transactions has been 111 ,0' highest degree honourable to its justi ce liberality. r; Ce ' ri CATTLE FAlas.—We understand that the 1V of Cattle and Sheep are on the decline, ottuder the sales want off heavily at most of cite Fairs: 0 Yesterday the PRINCE REGENT, ReColrojil' by Sir BENJAMIN BLooMFIELD, left Carlton at half-past four o'clock for Brighton. The Marchioness of DoWNSIIIRE and follr'i barked on Wednesday at Dover, for C, a , 4 . the Lord Duncan packet, Captain 1-101 111 ; Their Royal Highnesses the Duke and l'olie‘f' of CLARENCE still sojourn at the Castle 0 1 and live in a very retired manner. The report of a duel basing taken 1 316c 0.f (weer Mr. BENNET and Mr. L. Wer.o -4 , tt'; without foundation. The misonderstandit;:teilvc, t ween those gentlemen was, by the flu ter sirA of their friends, Col. BOWATER and O(", 1 ) satisfactorily explained, and a reconciliilll‘i towed honourable to both parties. 'rite trial of SirCHAKLEsWOLsELRY ,,( ' - ! o p has been moved by writ of- L'ertiotari 1 i,e ;, court of King's Bench. lii cor,sequen,. ce , ° e g' Tuesday gave Irvsii bail at the Judges' 1-I,nl,Jlj'o4 oitl0 itl His hail ;vete Alexander Galloway, .' 1 , ,; " 0 00: 1 ,0 d 'dace, Sliepiler's-busb, eileineer ; , 4"" irnirious,...of Gloucester-lodge, CIL pito' 111411. a phi AI) Ge Vic P.' cer of : the the Ca) Tea WI) Car 1 4' IS 01ir .=te t.,_: totifl :l i i ~~ ~ (4,1 (":B ~11t•1 U. It, in 1 • ir , it TVO it)tc hip 11 , ,e to to 01)51 Mr. two •p : , libe tan • btit Dell T w i Ter► the, Let Fl y ; ,• ft i, firm dbo Then Gild %One Prod ore t th e ten', unit Of ~ We w t . ° , the n 'with c,f tv l ebel art i lt is this t - ttU“ ,! I'Bcl exte b Co h e al Li t L:thui Ctl•~~,f 1,, 3, Sire , "Itch .‘ .44 t're I 1,