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ert foundstion whatever for such an accusation. — le , hen contended that there was an Act of Henry • VII. confirming that of Henry IV. and diving to iNt aeis!rates the same power of dispersing meetings t tie Riot Act. It was only necessary to look at the words of the Pt 0(1 an; t ion to ascertain the tact ; for it is -said, " His Majesty our Lord the Keig commands you to disperse," &c. This was not theretore a new principle. The clause had in tact been en.,eted before, both in 1796 and ISOI. As to the objection, that the Bill would be nugatory, it stood refuted, if the object of the Bill was considered. That object was to prevent the assembling of fifty or sixty thou send persons together, and those displays of pity eke! power which were intended to overawe the State, whilst they were preparing its overthrow. 'flint object would be completely obtained. It 'lves not, as it had been represented, to prevent itinerant orators from holding forth harangues in ro-ms or apartments (where if they did, they might be apprehended) ; but to deprive them of the power of addressing and inflaming large multi tudes, and leading them to acts of violence.— (Hear, hear !) Mr. DENMAN repeated his assertion, that neither the Commission of the Peace, nor the Statute of Henry VII. gave Magistrates the direct power of dispersing meetings by force, but only that of doing it through the medium of the ap prehension of individuals. Lord FoexesTotle recalled the House to the dis cussion of the principle of the measure, which had been lost sight of in the examination of the, clauses. He contended that its advocates were at earißnee amongst themselves, for whilst the nee seid it was in the spirit of the Constitution, aeother ndmitted that it was a direct hut necessary intree tion of it. He then took a view of the measures adopted by Continental Sovereigns against the establishment of Representative Governments, and the liberty of the Press. The whole of the measures, in fact, would set VC to disarm the people of the means which they had hitherto possessed of counteract ine the natural tendency of power to swell into despotism, and if they were passed, he should look 'Toe the liberties of the Couutty as abetistied —(Hear, hear !) Mr. HONEY wool) allowed that the people were in certain cases disaUcttd. But they were not dise&cied to the King nor to the Cou n try, but to trig ,Majesty's !Ministers.--(dear, hear !)—And if disaffection to his Majesty's Ministers was a crime, it was one in which he deeply shaseit, though no man could exceed hirn in loyalty to tii e (hoe n am! the Constitution. To hi. Majesty's Ministers he owed not, nor never would give aey allegieece. Ile thought that in the present case they ettempted not only what would innovate en the Constitution, but what would destroy it.— (Hear, hear !) After a few words from Mr. G. BaNKeis, which, from the at xieiy rtiattife,tect by the (louse to (1i- vide, were only so far beard in the Gallery as to induce us to think the Hon. Metnb,::r supported the The House divided For the third Reading' Against it, Nlajoi ity —2lB - -- - On beim: re-adatitted we found Mr. T. ‘VHA:RTON proposing to add a Claw:, auth o ri z ing It4loatiTs to attend public meetings, en giving in their names twenty-four hours beforehand to the Magistrates. Lord CASTLEREAGH had a considerable objuction to suet. a Clause. He did not wish to prevent Reports front be ing gir. n, but be objected to erecting that class of persons into a sort of oollyge hitherto unknown to the Constitiition.— He was unwilling to admit any recognition of their claims to attend public meetings, and the more so, as he must say, that the dangers of the country had been increased by very falia thins and pernicious Reports. He, therefore, should resist any Clause tending to incest thatbody of individuals with the right of claiming admission by authority. Mr. TIERNEY submitted that the Noble Lord might, per haps, not object to a limited number of Reporters, such as two or three, to attend. But as the Noble Lord went On, his objection did not seem to apply to the number, hut to the very principle of reporting. . . Lord CXSTEF.REAGI-1 would not object, if it was the wish of tic Alagistrates ' that they should allow the attend ;mice of Reporters. He should only refuse to anthurise them to claim it as a right. Mr. TIERNEY contended that that was not possible, as the Bill made it a misdemeanor for ;my stranger to attend. Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that the clause Wd nut ex tend to Magistrates, Peace Officers, or their Assistants. If they chose to admit Reporters in the capacity of the, tatter, they might therefore do it without the authority of a new clause. Mr. WM. SMITH objected to such connivance, as there could be no doubt towards which side it would lie exerted. Mr. Alderman WAITHNIAN and Mr. J. GRANT main tained the necessity of sonic regulation on that point. It was not in the power of Magistrates to permit the attendance of Reporters, as they might be prosecuted for so Doing by any individual, on the authority of the clause, even it they should have obtained lease front the Magistrates to attend. The clause was then put and negativeJ without a division. Mr. HUME then proposed another clause which he thought would not justify the objections which had been urged agaiuit the former. It would not recognize any claim nu the part of Reporters, but would invest Magistrates with a discre tionary power to allow their attendance. The Home divided, For the clause .... 85 Against it Majority a,gainst the clause -177 , itlr. lIITTCHIN , ..iON rose to more the insertion of a clause of winch he had given notice in the early part of the debate. The object of it was to exempt Ireland front the operation of the Hilt, and he called upon the Noble Lord, as well as the Right Holt. Member for the University of Dublin, to explain how it happened that Ireland, which had been described to be perfectly quiet on the first day of the Session, was then to be made subjuct to pains and penalties? PLUNKET said, the allusion made by the Honourable and Gallant Member to his personal conduct, required a few observations. In the first place, the Honourable and Gallant Member had called on him to address the House ; and in the second instance be complaisted that his argument was a bad ono. Ile could assure him it was not iatentionally bad ; he had no recollection of any meetings held in the open air in Iceland ; and as the Bill was not to extend to meetings in romns, his country would have no cause to complain. The Eight lion, Member was of Opinion it ought to extend to !elan t, in order to prevent the occurrence of tumultuous or improper meetings. Mr:MARTIN (uf Galw . ay) ryas of opinion the Bill ought to ,xtend to Ireland. Mr. TIERNEY said, the danger was greater in 1917, and on hat occasion Ireland was excluded from the operation of restrictive measures. It was consequently extraordinary to see the then before the House extend to that country. Lord CASTLEREAGH, in explanation, said, the danger was more systematic than it► Dll7, and Government felt it was necessary to make the Bill apply to Ireland, in order that iodiiiiluals who, by their misconduct, were exposing the country to danger, might. see that protection was general in hot!) countries. It was better at first to .provide a remedy, than wait for the necessity. BKOUGHANI could not admit that the country was in mon• danger now than in ti 17 ; but every crisis wa, ~tid to the crisis of the greatest dancer, iu order that Ministers laight impose measures of a novel nature. He implored his Linn. Friend to pause before be voted for the cxten snni of the Bill to Ireland. It would appear an ungracious art towards the Irish tHi:,l. It . was unjust to pron,, unc e them guilty before they were so, and un;,..-,..nerous to restrain them, if there e.sisteil vo necessity fur restraint. House then dil.itled_ For Mr. 1 - lutchinsou's Clause e9 Against it Majority --196 The Clause was consequently r , jetted. On the re-admission of. orangers to the Gallery, several verbal amendments were ins rite to the Mr. BROUGHAM asked if Agricultural Meetings were to be put down ? Lord CASTLEREAGH answerrffin the negative. Nlr. BROUGHAM tben observed, that Agricultural Meet ings were frequently held in the open air, and as liable, per haps, to be regulated by the Bill :vs any other meetings. The words in the first clause :tpplid to meetings held fur the pur o“se.of discosing any matters of ttade,&e. In Agricultural Meetings, the trade of wool-combing was frequently brought forward, with ut her matters of rural economy. The bleeders could not take fat cattle into rooms, and such Meetings must of necessity be held in the open air. The words in the Act made ...10 icnlturai I‘leetities a misdemeanour, if there was speaking be person cooling from a distant district. Lord CASTLEREAGH obseived. that he had never at tended agricultural meetings held in the open air, and he was quite certain he had never heard speeches at such meetings out , f doors. Mr. NIAXWELL was convinced the Bill would have a pod effect. It would check the efforts of those who had falsely and insidiously said the House of Commons and the Aristocracy had no sympathy for the sufferings of the people. The Bill was then read a third time and passed. The other Orders of the Day were postponed, and the House adjourned at Two o'Clock. THEATRICAL REGISTER. Performed Last Night. Tit EA 11117. ROYAL, DR ti ItY-LANE.—Harnlet : Hamlet, Mr. Kean ; Ophelia, Miss Carew. After which, What Next? n ;TRH ROYAL, COVENT-GA to .—The Comedy of Errors ; Dromio of Ephesus, Mr. W. Farren; Adriana, Miss Ste phens. After which, - Aladdin. PRICE OF Tnis DAY AT 1 , 3 per Cent. Red. 3i per . .1 per Cents. 83 83 Bank Long Ann. 17 5-16tlis -4 I F' STOCKS wEr.v, India 13.nlits . Bills, 9‘1.7: 6s. ifs. dis. Ditto Commercial ...30;, Coils. fiiriAccuunt MAILS. Atttityr.u-1 Dithlin, i Wwerforrl. 1 Brazils. Dui:-1 Guernsey and .Jersey. 1 Rolland, 1 Gutteuburgh, 1 France, 1 ilaniburgli. 111C:11 WATER AT LONDON BUDGE TO•Nionmow. Nioniiiig, S minittes after o.i Evening', 32 mmotes after 12. Til E SUN. soLvm guts I; C FAI.SIJ.M !MEAT'? LONDON, TUESD.IY, DECEMBER 14, 1519. No Paris Papers Lave arrived ails morning; two days' Journals are now due. Ministers have often been accused of attempt ing to abridge the Liberties of the Stihjcct. We li,tve only to refer our Beaders to the Clause pro posed by the LORD CUANCELLOR, last night, in the House of Lords, on the Traverse Bill. It appears that this venerable Pillar of the Law, who is heartily attached to the welfare and honour of the Cou:qty, and demonstrates that at tachment on all occasions, has even proposed, to grant inure in f....vour of those charged with mis demeanours. than Loyd HOLLAND had required, for which just and liberal proposition the latter Nobleman properly expressed his thanks, and added his cordial assent. " The' i proccdure of the House of Commons last night, nn t 1:c ffellSicc mphlet published by Mr. Hoßnouse, and avowed as his production, wa3 positively demanded as a measure absolutely necessary for supporting the dignity of Parlia- Merit. We ce rely regret that a Gentleman of talents and learning, should thus have been ensnared by the licentious politics of the times, since with the faculties which he possesses, and the knowledge which he has acquired, even youth will not excuse hint for not being aware of the danger of those principles, that,,instead of be ing calculated to reform the Constitution, are ra• Cher calculated to overwhelm it in atl the confu sion avid all the horrors of unarehy and ruin. But when the Bills in question are passed into Laws, we shall be able to join all v.-in and honest men in exulting in the preservation of the Empire. By a Gentleman who arrived last night from Manchester we learn, that a waggon-load of Pikes had been seized there, con►ing • through the Town. They were stcrcted in tl►e waggon in clusti es, as young plants, and piled up with hay ban&-Tonntl them. There is a lot Address from FIuNT to the " Radical Reformers of England, Scotland, and Ireland," in a Morning Paper of this day, which consists of nothiog but that hackneyed abuse of Govert►tttent, tvhicl► might be expected from such, an incorrigible Demagogue, who sees that all hi s inflammatory harangues are now at an end, and who, therefore, naturally vents the rage of disap pointed rancour. Tho implied attack on the Grand Jury of Lancashire, the shallow pretence of Patriotism by which he attempts to delude his followers, the indignation he expresses against the Bills in contemplation, which must put a stop to his excitements to Sedition, and destroy his popularity, as he dares do nothing hot excite, the boasted greetings of the London crowds on his return to London, compared with the miserable few who sat down to dinner with him, and ►he disappointment evidently created, as appears from the preparations for 400, and the expences not being yet reimbursed, for which his Ally is still in prison, all demonstrate the expiring venom of a man who seeks nothing but his own elevation, whatever may befal his country. HUNT AND COBISZTT'S PATRIOTISM.--•AMOUg other topics urged by these Worthies in their Lecture on Morality, last night, at the Crown and Anchor, the disuse of Tea and Coffee was strongly insisted upon. HUNT said he was in posses sion of a substitute, to adopt his own words, " ten times better than Coffee, and twenty times better than Tea, of which he was pre pat lug large quantities for public sale, and begged to recommend it to their attention." He said it would brace their own sinews and relax those of their enemies ; that is to say, it would assist in destroying the Revenue, He then added, that this forbearance front exciseable articles would not only make them richer and more comforta ble, but would " strengthen them for the TIME " OF ACTION, and moreover paralyze the sinews of corruption."—nr. HUNT'S " time of action" needs no explanation. TRANSATLANTIC RESURRECTION MAN. By a late communication from America, it is now fully ascertained that the Bones of a poor Negro Slave were dragged from the grave, and disgraced by having the name of the ever-infamous PAINE attached to them. It seems that the original intention in this abominable job was to have placed them in the Temple eti Reason, or the 0/fice for THE REPUBLICAN or THE DEIST; but CARLILE'S game being up, before the landing of the Mighty Politician, it was next resolved (finding they would not be permitted to be hawked about the country for insurrectionary purposes) to inter them with all due honours, under a huge monument of brass,—at least it was hoped that a large sutscription might be raised under that pretence. There is something exceedingly disgusting in the malig nant and mischievous intention, as well as in the fraud and imposture displayed throughout the whole of this most in decent transaction. The understandings and common sense of those besotted Beings, who are still deluded by this Renagade, (if under standings they can be said to possess,) were never more grossly insulted, unless perhaps, by the farce of his join ing devoutly last night, at the Cap and Dagger Tavern, in delivering lectures on Mora/lig, with that Man whom he has denounced in his REOLSTER as " a sad worthless fellow, travelling about the country with a the wife of another man—beware of him, &c. &c." MANCHESTER, DEC. 12, Seven o'Clock, P. M. (PRIVATE LETTER.] " You will be already aware of the intention to bold Public Meetings to-morrow in this town and in Bolton, and also in all the populous vil lages in the neighbourhood. As the Magistrates and Military are in posse , sion of the intentions of the Radicals to come to these Meetings armed and prepared for acts of violence, the most ex tensive arrangements for preserving the peace of the districts within the influence of the places of meeting, are in progress. In addition to the mi• litnry torce previously in the town, seven com panies of the 85th Regiment of Foot marched in bete yesterday. Several troops of the Cheshire Yeo manry will be stationed at short distances, ready to be called in, and accommodations are provided for them in Manchester, in case their services should be required here. The Police of the town are on the alert, and the whole of the persons liable to the chilies of watching and warding wilt be armed with pistols, molasses, or pikes, sup plied from the stores at London and Chester.— The following placard has this moment been issued by the Boroughreeves and Constables, for the guidance of the inhabitants to-morrow " WHEREAS it is apprehended that serious Disturbances and Outrages may arise out of the Meeting advertised to be held on this day, Monday, Dec. 13, in St. George's Fields, Manchester, and from other similar Meetings to be held in the neighbouring Villages. " We, the Borongbreeves and Constables of the Towns of Manchester and Salford, most earnestly Caution all the In habitants of these Towns, who may not be acting and cu operating with the Civil or Military Authorities, to continue at their usual lawful occupations, and as much as possible to remain in their own houses during the whole of the day; and most especially, we urge the absolute necessity, that Females, Children, and Servants, should keep within doors. " And we require all Innkeepers and Publicans in these towns to remove all company out of their houses at four o'clock in the afternoon, and to ,keep their doors closed for the remainder of the night. " And if any disturbance shall manifest itself in either of these towns in the course of the night, we most anxiously recommend alt the welt•disposed inhabitants to place lights in the upper windows of their houses, a measure which may most essentially contribute to their own safety, and to the assistance of those engaged in the preservation of the Public Peace. Given under our ltands, this 13th December, 1819, " THOMAS SHAM), Boroughreeve of Nlanchestcr. JOHN 011 FORD and RICHARD SMITH, Constables. " J. E. SCHOLES, lioroughreerc of Salford. " T. MARRIOTT and S. MATTHEWS, Constables." " The parties who signed the notice calling the Meeting, ate at variance as to the measure with Wroe at the Observer Office, and Wroe refused to print it. The posting bill, printed by Wroe, re commending the discontinuance of the Meeting, has not their sanction, and they have expressed a determination to hold the Meeting as adver tised. There appears to be an influx of strangers in the town, similar to that which marked the day precedine the Meeting of the 16111 of August ; and immense numbers are looked for, but it is not expected that any actual disturbance will take place, until the evening of to-morrow. Whatever occurs you may depend upon being duly informed of." ACCIDENTS IN COAL MINES.—A Correspon dent calls our attention to the important fact, that three dreadful accidents have this year hap pened from uut toil% Softly Lumps. FOR THE SUN. 1:211161?ATION. CAPE OF GOOD HOPE-DUTCH. LAW. Ma. EDITOR—I hope the present ParNang° will bestow a further sum for the Emigration the surplus Population of this Country ; and o nt confine it to a part of the Cape of Good HoP e ' but encourage Emigration to several parts of M g valuable Colony, particularly the Orange River' and to the Canadas, New South Wales, and eve ° to our possessions Yu other parts of Africa ; Ins dustrious persons will do well in any of thol l Countries. I should waste the time of your Loyal Reader' by proving the value of the Laws of England not only are they valuable in themselves, but WI promote the best interests of religion and morsliri wheresoever they are established ; it is, therefore► matter of great regret that the Cape is ° I this day governed by the Dutch La*, et the Old Civil Law, formerly in use (wit h all its faults) in Holland, till it was superseded bl the Code Napoleon, and the Code of the Nether' lands. The knowledge of the Dutch Law h" latterly gone very much back. Students ge g a Dutch education, and a few years stud/ of the Code Napoleon at a Dutch Univer` sity (by which they are not likely to obtain, English feelings) to fit them for Cape pra" Lice ; it would be well if ,the matter ended here/ but I am informed that the Dutch Crimiol l Law, as practised at the Cape, is very faulty, an d not at all agreeable to our English notions of justice. There may be some difficulty in at once makins an entire change of the Law in Civil eases, in de Cape, to the English Law—but little difficult,' would arise in changing the Criminal Law, and giving to the Settlers the rights and liberties es' joyed by their fellow-subjects in England. Several other important British Colonies R 0 governed by the Old French, Spanish, and Dutch Laws. Temple, Dec. 8, 1919. • • • IRELAND. CASTLEBIR, DEC. g.--We are sorry to Tear that those deluded persons, under the appellatiols, of Ribbonmen, who have caused the couirty Oj Roscommon to be visited with a heavy tax for the support of its present Police Establishment, are ea' deavouring to bring a like misfortune upon tha part of this peaceful county which adjoins . them. They entered the little town of Ballybiunis Sunday night, and administered oaths to some persons there ; but several others to whom tbel were tendered had the manliness to resist. A part of the Staff of the South Mayo Militia are ordered, we understand, to do duty in 0 6 town of Clare, in this county, being in the neigh' bourhood of the Ribbon►nen. Such is the state of part of the county of Gi way, that that intrepid Magistrate, the Rev. Mr• O'Rorke,who lately,with 12 soldiers, put to flight some thousands of these Ribbonmen, has found it necessary as we are just informed, to abandon, fd the present, his residence at Moylough, and seelt shelter in Dumnore.—(Mayo Constitution.) MELANCHOLY ACCIDENT.—EarIy on the time!' ing of Saturday last, three fishermen, viz. : Rost Murdoch, Roger M'Clune, and Hugh Bell, welt off from Groomsport, for the purpose of fish' ing. When about a mile from the shore, °wit% to the sudden shifting of the wind, which bled fresh from the north, and caused a heavy saso the boat upset, and all' three perished, withio sight of their families and several other spectatorif who could render them no assistance.—(Dladis t Correspondent, Dec. 11.) ERPOOL, DEC. 13,—Arrived the Richard , NORMAN, from Miramichi. Yesterday, off' tbs Olmstead, she saw the top-mast head anti tar sail yard of a vessel of 300 tons or upwards, ths, former painted black and the l a tt er y e ll ow ; co ol° not tell whether a ship or brig. The Golde. Fleece, English, from Batavia, has gone on 81)01 near Mockbeggar, but expected to he got oP without damage. The Belgrave, Fleming, fros t St. Petersborgh, and George Sytne, from Quebec, are both on shore near PoloclV beggar. Yesterday, at one o'clock, a Cabinet Conn!! was held at the Secretary of State's Office for ir Home Department, which sat till half-past thre e All the Members of the Cabinet were present e%''' cent the LORD CHANCELLOR. h 0 The PRINCE REGENT intends passing Chiistmas holidays at Blighton, by which tip the Pavilion will be ready for th e rece pti on of b its Royal Highness. The Duke of YORK arrived in town from Stil' folk yesterday. The Duke of KENT, attended by Capt. CoW ROY, left Kensington Palace yesterday mornitlP for the Military College at Sandhurst, to be pr i e d ' sent at the examination of the Cadets there. the evening his Royal Highness returned, havin (lined with the Princesses on his way. The armed association in Glasgow is formil l6 with the greatest celerity. Arms were to he deli' remd to them on Thursday and yesterday by G vernment. Like the Sharpshooter s ' Corps, 'or b , have already all been supplied with arms, 0 1 are to serve without pay.—(Edinburgh Cour° I Dec. 11.) LONDON: Printed by J. B. CAItSTA IRS, o f N o . 29, 6rea Ormond-street, Queen-square; and published by NO SCRIPPS, of No. 7, South .Nlolton-street, at Til,E A . e rt, Oilice, No. 112, Strand ; where Advettisements, • Letters, &c. (post-laid) must be addressed. Pt i ‘t jot' / hrZ t °11) - :, 1 ,tls is n g 'it fu relic' !hp, the 1, 44.ee, 11 ttio 1p zo, A s ,„ tl tiunktrk,, • a ( P 91 V 4 4).1 11 I .t r itty e NSF. 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