The Sun. — London, England, 1828-04-02 00:00:00

On the 'notion of Lord SHAFTESBURY several pi vate Bills went through their necessary stages. The House then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, Aran. I. Mr. Taylor brought up returns from the Ceal Meters °ace. On the motion of Mr. MARSHALL the Stockton and Darlington Railway Bill was read s. third time and passed. Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN presented a petition from the inhabitants of Mile End Old Town, in favour of the East London Railway. Mr. BYNG presented a petition from the inhabitants of Whitechapel, praying that they might be heard by Conn against the East London Railway. On the motion of Mr. BYNG the Commercial Roads Bill was read a second time and ordered to be committed. Mr. S. RICE presented a petition from the city of Limerick Joint Stock Proprietors (if the Hibernian Mining Company, praying that the Company might be dissolved, and the Act of Parliament repealed by which it was cosustititted. The Hon. Member though he presented the petition did not concur in its prayer. Sir J. NEWPORT thought that suck a procee.ding would be most unjust, and he sincerely hoped that it would never be sanctioned by the House. Mr. Alderman WOOD moved for various returns rela tive to the quantities of wine, spirit, tallow, flax, butter, and cheese, imported into this country.—Agreed to. Mr. MACKINNON presented a petition from the maltsters of Ipswich, praying for the repeal of the Malt Art. Mr. FERGUSSON presented a petition from the Mi. nisters and Elders of Paisley, praying for the repeal of the Test and Corporation Acts. The LORD ADVOCATE contended, 'that by the Articles of Union the proposed Act would have no effect in, or reference to, Scotland. Under the provisions of the Act for the Repeal of the Corporation awl Test Acta, any Scotchm.an who should take the declaration tkerein recited would become eligible to take or hold easy office in Great Britain, while, in fact, in Scot land there was no recipro city, for rio person could hold ciiice there who should not take and subscribe the tieelaration prescribed by the Scottish Church. Sir J. MACKINTOSH said the Learned Lord had ad mitted the whole grievance. Members of the Church of England were admitted to the highest offices in Scotland, without-any declaration, while in England the Scotch were Int admitted without being subjected to the Test Oaths. He wished to make one single remark, which he might as net have made at a former time, but still it was egnally npplicable to the present time, and therefore he would state it. His Noble Friend (Lord J. Russell) wan about to carry up a Bill for the repeal of those intolerant anti exclu sive laws to the House, made with the sanction of that House. How becoming his name and blood was this action. There was a peculiar interest and connection between the name of Russell and those Acts. The very first person who attempted to have these Acts repealed was King 'Williani, who, five weeks after his ascent to the throne, came down to the House and• implored the Parlia ment to admit Protestant dissenters to places of trust and power without any test. tie came down at the same time to give the royal assent to the bill for reversing the attain der of Lord Russell. (Cheers.) He, however, implored an ungrateful Parliament in vain ; and it was left to a descendant of that same Lord Russell, one hundred and fOrty years afterward., to go up to the other House with a Bill for their repeal, and, with the sanction of that House, thus accomplishing that which King William had in vain attempted. (Cheers.) Mr. FERCifJSSOINT explained. The LORD ADVOCATE also explained, and again contended that the Test Act did not affect the Membets of the Church of Scotland. He could ngt see that in every instance Scotchmen were obliged to take the Test Act to qualify them for office in England ; for, by the Articlas of Union, the Secretary of State fot• the Home Department of England was the Secretary of State for Scotland, being the Secretary for Great Britain, and he was never,required to take the Sacramental Teat. Lord J. RUSSELL had argued on a principle directly pppoEed to that of the Learned Lord, for he bad corn vlained that while Members of the Established Church might go to Scotland and hold office there without taking any additional Tests, the Members of the Church of Scot land could not hold office in England without taking the Sacramental Test. He never could have expected to hear from so grave an authority as that of the Learned Lord, that the Secretary of State of England was not bound to take the Sacramental Test.—(Hear, hear.) The petition was laid on the table. Similar petitions were presented by Sir R. FERGUS SON from Dumferndine and several parishes in Scotland. • MALICIOUS INJURY TO PROPERTY BILL. Mr. NV. LAMB brought in a Bill for consolidating the Laws relating to the malicious injury of property in Ireland. After a few words from Sir J. NEwroaT and Mr. Mr. W. LAmn, the Bill was read a first time, and ordered t o b e read a second time the 21st of April next. Mr. GRATTAN presented a petition from the Silk Weavers of D u bli n , complaining of distress; and praying for the extension of the Poor Laws to Ireland. The dis tress of this class of persons was become very pressing. For his :awn part he thought the cultivation of waste lands and the encouragement of the fisheries of Ireland would be much better than any system of emigration which could b e introduced; hut he thought that the introduction of a s ystem of poor laws must ultimately be one of the conse eiuences of the Union. Sir JOHN NEWPORT thought the extension of the Poor Laws would augment all the evils under which the poor of Ireland laboured. When th e effect of the Poor Laws was con s idered in this country, tel could not conce i ve how it was p oss ible to imagine that e system. could be introduced a d van t ageo u s ly in Ireland. W ith. the w an t of capital in th a t coun t r y, and the absence of many of the principal landed proprietors, lie thought. thet!itruduction of the Poor Law s o ne o f th e mos t dreadful visitations Which could come on Ireland. Mr. M. FITZGERALD was alsJ opposed to the intro duction of Poor Laws in Ireland. Mr. Secretary PEEL said he had occasion to consider this subject on different occasions, and he was fully Im pressed with the conviction that the introduction of a ttys tem of Poor Law s lik e t h e P oor Laws of Engl and, i nto Ireland, would greatly aggravate the evils under winch the population of that county laboured. He could hardly conceive any country into which be would agree to introduce the English system of poor laws without con sideration, but Ireland was a country above all others, which Which hi considerta was turning that most solemn ordi nance to the vilest purpose. He (Lord Holland) did trust, that he wet'll be excused from giving vent to his feelings, and he hoped their Lordships would pardon any warmth that tie might on the occasion betray. He felt constrained to nay, that if be should, in any respect, be the instrument , of carrying the measure contained in that Bill into effect, he would die satisfied that he never rendered a more essen tial service to his country than in thus removing one of the greatest barriers to its happiness and prosperity. The Noble Lord said, he would suggest the expediency of not haring the Bill read a second time until after the Easter recess ; and as he understood the Noble Duke (Wellington) intended to move for an adjournment of the House until Tuesday, the 15th instant, he would move that their L'rdships be summoned far Thursday, the 17th, on which 'occasion he would introduce the Bill far its second read ing. At the same time he wished to acquaint their Lord ships, that in case any thing should occur to render it ad visable to postpone the subject to any more distant period, he would not pledge himself to move for its being read a second time. Ilia Lordship then presented a petition from the congre gation of a Unitarian Chapel in Finsbury-square, praying for a repeal of the Test and Corporation Acts, which the Noble Lord observed, prayed not only for a repeal of such laws as affected themselves, but also for a removal of all civil disabilities whatever, on the ground of religious differences. Lord LANSDOWNE presented the following petitions, praying for the repeal of the Test and Corporation Acts :. From the Protestant Dissenters of North College-street, and other Chapels in Edinburgh ; from Panton, in the county of Devon ; from the Congregation of an Indepen dent Chapel, Southampton; Kingsbridge, Devonshire; from the Assembled Corporate Trades of the borough of Arbroath ; from the Corporations of Masons, Coopers, Nailers, Slaters, and others in Edinburgh ; from Mill street Chapel, Perth ; from the Corporation of the City of Perth ; from Members of the Merchants' Company, Ayr; from the Merchants' Company, Edinburgh ; from the Protestant Dissenters of Poole, in Dorsetshire ; from the Corporation of Hammermen, Edinburgh ; from the Magistrates and others of the borough of Montrose ; and from the Provost, Magistrates, and Town Council of Ayr. Similar petitions were presented by Lord FARNHAM —from the Inhabitants of Rosalyn; from the Corporation of eordwainers of Mid Lothian, and from the Provost and Town Council of the Royal burgh of Burntisland. The Marquis of SALISBURY moved for certain re • turns respecting Wool. Lord MELVILLE presented petitions praying for a re peal of the Corporation and Test Acts, from Peebles, Bur ton, Dungannon, and other places ; also a petition from the Royal Burgh of Montrose, for a continuation of Boun ties and Pensions on Lives. he would pause before introducing that system into. He thought the introduction of such a system would remove the existing checks, and destroying the grades of society which now exist, would involve all classeS in distress. The situation of Ireland with respect to England was anything but satisfactory to the latter; but yet he could not consent to introduce anything like the English system of poor laws ! into Ireland. At the same time, he readily admitted that the poverty of Ireland threw a great burthen on this country. Mr. WILMOT HOFCTON agreed with the night Hon. Secretary for the Home Department, that the Poor Laws would be a most unfortunate measure for Ireland. If there was a population for whose labour there was no de mand, and who had nothing to give for their food, there must be distress, and public charity must support them, removed out of the country, or employed at home. If the English Poor Laws were introduced into Ireland, they would monopolise the rental of that country; but he con ceived that a modified system of Poor Laws was one of the most beneficial measures that could be introduced.— If he could bring himself to contemplate a period when in this country the demand for labour equalled the supply, he should say that would be a fit time for improving the Poor Laws of England, by withdrawing that pernicious clause by which every man, no matter how impro vidently he might have conducted himself through life, had a legal claim for support from the land, and then he would have no objection to see what could be done in the shape of Poor Rates in Ireland. With respect to a motion at the present moment for the introduction of Poor Laws into Ireland, with the view of affording Mo . ,' relief to the labouring classes, he must say that he should oppose it as one of the most hopelest• deseriptiOn ; and he would also say that considering how England and Ireland were at present situated, those projects for procuring artifi cial emplo) talent for the poor of Iceland by appropriating sums of 100,000/. and upwards, were though heneVolent, unsound in principle, and prejudicial in pt'actice. If upon enquiry as to whether legitimate employment could be found for the poor population of Ireland, it could 1)2 shown that by thu employment of capital in cultivating the waste lands of that country, then he (Mr. W. H.)avotthl be far from saying that it might not be expedient to make an effort to bring those lands into tOltivation, but the claims of individuals to thug lands would render such an attempt hopeless, unlvn by some legislative enactment those rights were aars.t . .tained,and the capitalist secured in the pro duce of the money expended: The present state of the paliper poralation of England, Scotland, and I reiats 4, Was one which required the deliberate attention t+l that House, and called for an inquiry into the ot.uses of their misery, and the re medico, if any, vhitlt could be applied. If such an in quiry should be instituted, he should be ready to bring for- - ward such evidence as would call either for a contradic tion of those principles which he had ad'voca'ted upon this subject, or a recognition of the Application of these principles to such an extent as should appear advisable. He had given notice of a petition which he intended to present that evening. to the House, upon the subject of Emigration, but he took that opportunity of stating, that he should reserve un til a ft er t h e holydays , What he should bring forward the whole question, the Observations which he intended to make upon tht statements contained in the petition. Mr. CALURAFT said he had always been the advo cate of the strict principle of the Poor Laws in I;ng land, and had attributed the evils of the stein to the lax administration of the Poor taws; but when he was called upon to extend that system to Ireland, he must stop short, and refuse his assent, because he was satisfied It* effect of introducing the Poor Laws into that country in its present condition would be the transference of the rental of that country into different hands from these or the land proprie tors, and instead of relief to the labouring classes would introduce a more extensive system of destitu tion than existed in that country at present. He thoaet it the duty of Government to apply tart or the re sources of the country to the. Vittteling the condition of the poor, but he hot think the application of large sums nE money in transporting what he con sidered the real wealth, namely, the population of the country, could be productive of any benefit, fa' it ii 50,000 paupers were transported to the Colonies to-morrow, the gap would, be filled up in a rew years with 100,000 more as needy as the lamer. With respect to Ireland he must say, that until the Catholic Question was set at rest, all other Measures of relief would be hopeless. 'Mr. MONCK said he considered the Poor Lawa of Eng land the only partition in Chit tohntry between what remained of English cent ors and the iutroduction of Irish roverty. Cel , i'.nel TRENCH said, that if the state of Ireland was actually such as it had been represented to be, neither the introduction of Poor Lawv, nor a issatenli of Emigra tion could in any measure operettas a remedy. He could understand the proposition of a Noble Lord in the other House, anti. it Might be productive of a double effect. lie alluded to What had been said about sending over a supply of hats, clothes, &c., which would teach the people the use of those luxuries, and, at the same time, benefit the ma nufactures of the country. Mr. CROKER said, that the 'Manner in which England and Scotland wen oVefrun with Irish paupers, would compel the 1401.114 to turn their attention to the subject. Mr. W. LAMB was of opinion that the Right Hon. the Secretary of State for the Home Department, had stated to the House the most unanswerable reaeens *by it was im possible to extend to Ireland the Poor Laws of England, in any considerable ti4;ree. With regard to the plass suggested by tire kight Hon. Gentleman at the end of the bench, (Mr. W. Horton) he (Mr. Lamb) must observe, that the financial difficulties of a country could net be re= Hewed by schemes which began with borrowing large sums on the security of a distant prospect of very doubtful re turns.—(Hear, hear.)..-The only remedies which he could imagine for a country labouring under difficulties, were patience, perseverance, rigid economy, strict punctuality, determined enterprise, and unwearied labour. These were hard conditions, he admitted, but they Were the conditions upon which alone the affairs of States could be re-establish ed.--(Hear, heat...) An Hon, Member (we believe Mr. Power) was of opi nion that the one thing wanting to tranquillize Ireland wee the old story—Catholic Emancipation. Mr. J. GRATTAN explained. The petitibn was then brought up, read, and ordered to lie on the table and be printed. A Message from the Lords brought their Lordships' as sent to the Innkeepers' Bill, and also two Bills which had passed in their Lordships' House—the one, the Promises and Engagements Bill, and the other the Records' Variance Bill. Their Lordships, at the same time, requested to be furnished with a copy of the Report upon the Bill brought into this House for the Amenelment of the Law of Entails in Scotland. • The Masters in Chancery then withdrew, and were im mediately afterwards again called in, and acquainted by the Speaker, that for so much of said Message as re garded the copy of the Report, that House would answer by a message of their own. BRITISH LEAD. Viscount LOWTHER presented a petition from Alston Moor, in Cumberland, signed by above 3,000 persons en gaged in the lead - works, complaining that they were seri ously aggrieved by the low rate of duty at which lead ore from foreign countries was allowed to be imported into this country. Mr. C. GRANT expressed his conviction, that the re duced condition of the lead mining property was chiefly attributable to the excessive speculations of 1825, which had caused far greater quantities of ore to be raised than there was any demand fur; and the consequence was, that there was a complete glut in the market. Sir. P. THOMSON observed, that the utmost amount of tke importations from foreign countries did not much I exceed 4,000 tons per annum. The petition was then brought up, read, and ordered to lie on the table. Sir J. MACKINTOSH presented tno petitions from the county of Roscommon, in Ireland, praying for Catho lic Emancipation, and also a petition, the object of which he was happy to say, was no longer necessary fbr him to lutist on—the repeal of the Test and Corporation Acts— from that highly respectabl e body, the Provost and Town Council of Edinburgh. Lord NUGENT gave notice of a motion for tl:e let of May for leave to bring in a Bill for the Registration of voters in Cities awl Boroughs. Mr. CHARLES PALLMER had to present a petition to the House from the West India Planters and Merchants of the City of London, fur a reduction of the tax upon their sugar. Ile presented the petition to the I.louse di veste d of any political expression or feeling, as a pl a i n , arguments. tive appeal to their justice, founded upon figures which could not err, and facts which could not be denied. Th e petition described the rise and progress of the sugar duties from the sum of 3s. sd. per cwt. to the present high rate of 275., and it particularly adverted to the great addition which had been made to the duties during the late war, under the express provision of the Act of Parliament, that the same were for the purposes of the war alone. Twelve Years had since elapsed—every other war duty had been renweed—niany other taxes had been taken off altogether ; but the duty on sugar remained the same. Upon representations having been made on the subject to former Ministers, it had been answered that the West Indies derived certain advantages from bounty upon the export of refined goods—that bounty had been since taken away, and the tax still continued. At the close vi the war a large accession was made to Colonial possessions, and these, with the addition of the Mauritius, helped materially to add to an oppressed and overloaded market; and yet, from the heavy tax chich it had to sustain, not only had the consumption of sugar failed to keep pace with that of other articles, but the psorer classes bad been entirely de barred from it ; and even with those classes accustomed to its use, its consumption had not increased, as the petition shelved, in proportion to the increased population . of the country ; and it is proved by the most authentic documents, that the consumption has been sensibly augmented or dimi nished, as the average price of the article has risen or fallen —,that the article of sugar, if placed within their reach, would he consumed by the very lowest classes, and in such case the consumers would be scarcely less numerous this the consumers of bread ; and that to the inhabitants of the sister kingdom, if it could be supplied at an attainable price ) it would nut fail to afford not •only comfort, but great moral benefits--that the West India Planters are essentially British land owners, cultivating articles in amount from eight to nine aaillions sterling value, creating a revenue of nearly six millions, being upon the whole produce about '75 per cent., and upon sugar upwards of 100 per cent.—that sugar and .coffee are to the colonial agricultural interest what grain is to the British agricultu ral interest, and the export to the West India colonies, di minished as it is, by theirpecessities and other causes ; still amounts to nearly five millions; their commerce employs 4,000,000 tons of British shipping, and from 20 to 25 thousand then—that the average price of sugar during the last year, which was higher by many shillings than the five preceding years, was 635. per cwt., of which 275. was paid to the Government, eight shillings to the British shipowner and merchant, eighteen to the expellees of cultivation, leaving about 10s. to the grower, or some where ahout one penny per lb., the Government receiving a tax of 300 per cent. on the profit of the gro.ver.— The petition referred to a Report of the House of Com mons in 1307, strongly depicting the bttrthen of the duty upon the planter; and recommending a scale of duties at the point of 20s. per cwt. ; and the petition con cluded by praying such an ample reduction of duty as would ensure to the grower and consumer a participation in the - relief, give encouragement to British shipping; and the consumption of British -ms.nufactareN and increase in a very material degree the comforts of the labouring poor of the Itliole empire. Such was the petition which he requested to present to them. He trusted that it would, at least, have the effect of laying before a misinformed public the real merits of the case, and the remarkable fact, that the tax to the Government, and not the profit of the grower of West India Seger, 'Tat the real cause of its high price to the eenst.tinily. Mr. C. GRANT declined at that moment to enter upon the important subject referred to by the petition. He was not insensible to its importance; but another and snore Sitting opportunity would arrive for discussing it. Mr. C. PALLMER p'es.miltd a IV: tition from the Colnnial Asstiflay of the island of Antigua, complaining of dMeess in the island. The petitions were read, and ordered to be printed. Mr. HOBHOUSE presented a petition from a Friendly Society in the City-road, against the Friendly Societies' Bill.—Referred to the Committee on the Bill. On the iwitlbri of 'Sir il. INGLIS, returns were ordered showing the amount of annuities lapsed to the Government, and other particulars. Mr. A. DAWSON presented a petition from certain journeymen silk weavers of Macclesfield, praying a mea sure of regulation for wages, Ordbred to be printed. Mr, MALCULAI presented a petition from the Mayor and Corporation of Boston against further concessions to the Catholics. Ordered to be printed. FAMILY OF THE LATE MR. CANNING. Lord MORPETH gave tidtice, that on Tuesday, the 13th of MV . ,-; lie should move an Address to the Throne, playing that his Majesty may be graciously pleased to make some provision for the family of the late Mr. Canning, if in the mean time he did not bear that it was the intention of his Majesty's Government to bring for Ward a similar Fopositilet b. *. HARVEY moved for Returns of the Ex pense of Building the Parliamentary Stables. Ordered. Mr. HARVEY presented a petition front a Mr. Cruden, a Member of the Corporation of Gravesend, and a Magis trate, against the Licensing of Ale-houses 1%11,-3-Ordered to lie on the table; Mr. Alderman i iIIOMPSON 'presented a petition from certain Hackney-coach and Chariot Owners, complaining of the Commissioners of Hackney Coaches, and praying fur a Committee to investigate their preceedings. Mr. HUME supported the petition: After a ftw Words froth Mr. WA MIURTON, Mr. Alder man Woon, and the CHANCELLOR of the E XCHEQULR, the petition was read, and laid on the table. Mr. FIUME gave notice that, on theist of May, he would move for leave to bring in a Bill to establish the practice of taking the poll by ballot at the elections for cities and boroughsl Mt. HUME presented petitions from the ikdviisi and Magistrates of Montrose, and front the Guildry and Corpo ration of Perth, against the Corporation and Test Acts. The Hon. Gentleman also presented a petition, praying for the repeal of the Irish Statute, the 21st Geo. 11. which entitled the non-resident Prottetahts tb btcoine freerneit of Corporatitlns, and for an extension of the English Statute 31st Geo. 11. which obliged those who had the custody o' Corporation deeds and evidences to submit them to the in spection of individuals on the payment of a small regulated fee to Ireland. The petition was signed by Thomas Fla nagan.—(Laughter.) Read and ordered to be printed. The LORD ADVOCATE brought in a Bill to regulate the licensing of mad houses in Scotland, which was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on the 21st of April. COMMON INFORMERS: Mr. F. PALMER presented a pttitibn troth it retail brewer bathed Edward Kiel, praying that the power of laying informations should be confined to the Board of Excise, or persons authorised by them. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER would take the subject into considara►iiirl: The petition was then read, and ordered to be printed. EMIGRATION. Mr. WILMOT HORTON rose to present a petition upon this subject; but did not wish for discussion at ere:. sent. He, however, save notice, that after taster, at an early day, he would endeavour to prbtoke a discussion, and submit resolutions to the House, which lie would id the interim have printed, and circulated privately alhongst the Members, that they might come down prepared upon the subject, and thus he enabled in one night to settle it. Th.: petitions, which were from the operatives of Ha milton, Paisley, and Breadalbane, were then read, and laid upon the table. AMERICAN Sir ROBERT WILSON, in rising to bring forward his motion for a Return of the Official Value of Exports to the States of South Atueriea; said that he felt stime erbbar= rassinent, becanse he had to reply to accilsatiobs against the South A:nerican States, which came not from un known or irrespensible parties, but from those who, by their weight and station, gave greater poignancy to the charges they brought. He did so, however, bemuse he wan desirous that the South Ameriest Stab tholild see, that if there r'ere oetttJet tiThb traduced them unjustly, and used harsh and severe language towards them in this country, that there were also others who, wholly disinterested, would come forward to defend and vindicate their character. It did unfortunately happen, that the South American States had enemies in this country---persons who saW With regret their emancipation from tyranny; and Who did not look upon them with a friendly eye, because they had released themselves from those aristeetatic pretensions, which, how ever respected and respectable, were snore frequently ac companied with injury than benefit. There were also per sons who had the same feelings front party motives, and who, from dislike to that great man who had interposed the iEgis of England between South Ametiea and the Powers confederated against them, were disposed to under. value what he had taken so just a pride in bringieg frieward, That attempt, however, was vain, as the name of that in dividual was consecrated by America whilst living, and the order of respect to his memory, which had been published by the Government of Mexico, and by the Liberator of Colombia, had been merely a compliance with the unanimous feelings of the people. The Hon. and Gallant Member then said, that the charges made were, that one State, for unworthy motives, preferred a corsair war to the benefits arising from peace and industry ; and the next assertion was, that the trade with America generally, was of com paratively little value to the British Empire ; and the third charge was, that in all pecuniary transactions with this country, these States bad played. only the character of swindlers, and had brougfit nothing but infamy and shame on themselves and their friends. With respect to the first charge, that Buenos Ayres only' carried on a corsair wsr tare, to the prejudice of others and the benefit of them selves, the reverse was the fact., because Brazil was the only State which gained by it, and, at all events, before these charges were made, it should be shewn that Buenos Ayres had rejected the propositions which had been made. Here the Von. Member went into details of the trade of Buenos Ayres during the years 1823, 1824, and 1825, shewing that their experts averaged eleven millions of dol lars, and their imports eight, the profits of which were much greater than any they could derive from a state of war. Then, as to the value of the South American trade generally, the value of that to Brazil, from 1822 to 1826, amounted to between fifteen and sixteen millions sterling, while to other parts of that continent it came near to fif teen millions, and those sums merely comprised the direct trade with England, although it was perfectly known that it was much greater through Jamaica and other islands, which had constant intercourse with the Spanish Main. All the accounts too which lately arrived, shewed that those States were recovering from the depreciation caused by the supply being at first greater than the de mand, and that the consumption of British manufac tnres was incredibly on the increase. He did not deem it necessary to go at length into mining speculations, but thought that if properly managed they might ulti mately succeed; there was this strong argument, that in Mexico alone, the quantity of bullion produced from the year 1733 to 1826, was on the average 3,000,0001. ster ling per annum. He then proceeded to notice the advance made in refinement and civilization, the number of books and pamphlets that were circulated there, and the general extension of intellectual and moral culture. He also:called the attention of the House to the circumstance of slavery having been abolished. It was to the consumption by these countries of our manufactures that we were to look for the employment of our population, and it would ill be come us, like so many children, to be pettish and discon tented because a temporary re-action had occurred. Co lumbus did not change his course, though apparently ad verse circumstances arose ; neither should this country, on the first appearance of unfavourable circumstances, give up all th it she had so nobly achieved. It was alone by per severance that we could hope to reap the benefits of what We had accomplished. The last charge to which he would ap ply himself was that of swindling. The South Amecican States had been accused of defrauding the people of this country ; there never was a charge more completely desti tute of foundation. It was alleged that two••and-twenty millions were lost to this country in consequence of its pecuniary transactions with the States of South America. Now, the fact ware that altogether only sixteen or seventeen millions had been subscribed, and of that only a small portion bad ever been paid. Thus, for ex ample, in the case of the Mexican Loan, the whole sum was 6,400,000/., of which only 2,458,0001. was ever actualle , sent out of the country. The South American Govern ments had all along shewn every disposititin to do what was fair and just. They had, it was true, made rather a hard bargain for themselves ; but then they said, this has been made by our authorised agents, we are therefore bound by it, and can never consider ourselves at liberty to depart from its principle. The reproach to the people of South America, that they failed in their pecuniary engage ments, Was one ii'hich they shared in common With many of the most distinguished among the European States. France had become bankrupt; Austria was three times a bankrupt, as far as making three several compositions with England could make bet so. Even we ourselves have been obliged tinsuspend our casts payments, and therefore, so far as foreign countries were concerned, we must be regarded in the light of bankrupts. It was besides no matter of surprise that those countries should at the present moment find themselves in circumstances of embarrassment and per plexity, seeing that they were exposed to the conten tion of rival chiefs, and to the miseries of internal dis cord; but of this he felt perfectly assured, that whatever Might be the opinion entertained of the skill and discretion with which they managed theiir financial concerns there could not be the slightest doubt of their good intentions, et the slightest suspicion that they at any time ever contem plated a fraud as respected the people of this country. The y were it was true in an althost infantiue state in all that re garded the management of their finances, but they were certainly culpable in not using all the means within their power to secure the conscientious fulfilment of every one of their ttnderhikings: He knew that Bolivar was at the preterit mettle - it doing all in his potter to haie in those provinces were it was at all practicable, a portion of the revenues set apart for the purpose of liquidating those debts. This, though it was all that under present cir cumstances could be done, formed no excuse, he was ready to admit, for the past. He did not hold the people of South America to have been criminal in their pecuniary transac tions, but they ware most culpable in tint corning fairly before their creditors, and declaring their inability to pay. Had they done this, they would have put an end to the speculations of hulls and bears, and have saved the holders of their securities from a great deal of loss and a great deal of misery. He thought also that the Government of this country 'ought to exert its infltiehce fot the purpose of ef fecting the payment of such British subjects as were cres ditors of the South American Governments. But though entertaining the feelings which he did, he could not lose sight of the circumstances of palliation which attended the situation in which the, Government of those states ;:'ere placed, nor could he forget the part which this country bore in their liberation ; it was a great work, and one which adorned our country and the age in.which we live. He then concluded by moving for an account of the official value of all exporti of every denomination of British and Colonial produce, exported to the States of South Ame rica durimig the last five years, distinguishing each, and the amount of duty payable on the goods. Also the im • ports from the same places. Mr. CHARLES GRANT would very readily accede to the motion of his fon. and gallant Priend ; at the same time he zritfst dhm erde, that ht feared there might be some difficulty in ttiakiiig mut all time returns called for. As to the remarks with which he had accompanied that motion, they did full justice to the object of it, as well by their matter, as' by the manner in which he brought them forward. Trusting that the future history of those states would form the best vindication of their conduct under the Artluone struggle Which they bad to maintain, and consi dering the then state of the tioUge; he' hoped that it would not be thought either a mark of indifference to theif' inte , rests, or of disrespect to the Hon. and Gallant Officer at the other side, if he confined himself to the fbw observa tions which he had then made. After et ftw *or& from Colonel DAVIES, the motion was put and agreed id. COMMERCIAL REGULATiOSg. Sir H. PARNELL mowed for a return of the amount of foreign manufactures imported into thin country in h 127, aiid of the exports and imports between the United kingdom and France, and Other countries. Mr. ROBINSON was friendly to free trade of every de scription, but he should like to see foreign countries give tip advatifages:=--advantages torresponding to those we yielded them. France and the United States had given us nothing in return for the liberal policy we had exereind towards them. GRA&T said, that, taking 'the inconvenience of the occasion oil which this Was broNght forward into con sideration, he did not feel called upon to make any obser vations upon it. Arter a few Words from Mr: HUME, Mr. MABERLE, Sind Mi. daitn', the Motion Was ptit and carried. COURTS OF JUSTICE IN NEW SOUTH WALES. Mr. Secretary lILTSKISSON rose, pursuant to notice, to bring in a Bill to regulate Courts of Justice in New &Rifli Wales. The important colonies of New South Wales and Van bionan's Land were now regulated in what related to the administration of justice, by an Act passed.in 181. His object, in the first instance, was to provide for the continuance of certain powers contained in that Act, Which were about to expire; and, in the next, to provide for future alterations in the administration of justice. Front the peculiar situation in which the popula tion of these Colonies were placed about two-thirds of the inhabitants having forfeited then• civil rights, it was diffi cult to have the law administered in the manner which pre vailed in this country, by Grand and Petty Juries. It had been found necessary, therefore, to suspend the system pursued in this country, and provide aJury of a pecultlr de scription, suited to the nature of the population. This suspension of the English system he intended in the new Bill to continue, but to make provisions that would gradu ally, should circumstances permit it, asaimulate the admi nistration of justice iu the Colony to that of England. The Colonies were not in a situation to admit of thus re ceiving a Legislative Assembly, but en the plan pursued with respect to Canada, before it had a Legislative Assem. bly, he proposed that they should have a Legislative Council, to be composed of 12 or 15 persons, who would be entitled to vote on all matters connected with their ex penditure, and, indeed, concerning their affairs generally. This would kid the way in time to the establishment of institutions in those Colonies similar to those of the people from whom the inhabitants were sprung. He would now merely introduce the Bill, and on the second reading they would have an opportunity of discussing it more at length. Leave was then given to bring in the Bill. Mr. GRANT brought up the Report of the Committee of Supply, which was agreed to. STAMP DUTIES BILL. On Mr. DAWSON -- ;no;inithethirdQing of this Bill, Alr. fIUME begged that it might be postponed. After a conversation, in which Mr. DA WSON, /%Ir. PER- G USSON, Mr. WARBURTON, and Mr. Aldermatr Wool), took part, the third reading was postponed till tomorrow. PAUPER LUNATIC BILL. Mr. R. GORDON moved the third reading of the Pauper Lunatic Bill. Sir It. H. INGLIS proposed a daue to the effect, that . 4_ in every county Lunatic Asylum, containing the number . - of 50 patients, there ►hould be a resident physician, sur geon, or apothecary." Mr. R. GORDON objected to the introduction of the clause as unnecessary. Mr. HUME expressed his disapprobation of the clause. Mr. R. COLBORNE objected to the Hon. Baronet's proposition, on the ground that, if adopted, it could only ~,:'~-~. have the effect of clogging the Bill with unnecessary re strictions. Mr. Alderman WOOD stated, that if the Hon. Baronet persisted in his intention of having the clause attached to the Bill, lie should be under the necessity of moving that the House be counted. Sir R. H. INGLIS consented to desist from pressing his proposition, and the clause was accordingly withdrawn. A clause, imposing upon the parish in which a lunatic had obtained a legal settlement, the necessity of providing for the expences incurred by the removal, medical attend ance, clothing, and st.pport of such lunatic, was brought up by Mr. R. GORDON, and having been read a first, se cond, and third time, was added to the Bill by way of rider. The Bill was then read a third time and passed. LUNATICS REGULATION BILL. Mr. 11. GORDON moved the Order of the Day for the third reading of the Lunatics lleg,ulation Bill. Several clauses having been added by way of rider, the Bill was read a third time and passed. A new writ was ordered to be issued for the election of a Member to serve in Parliament for the borough of Sud bury, in the room of John wilks, jun. Esq., who bad ac cepted the Chiltern Hundreds. The House adjourned at Half-past Ten o'clock. PARLIAMENTARY PAPERS. BREwEtts AND LICENSED VICTUALLERS IN ENGLAND, SCOTLAND, AND WALES. An Account of the Numbers of Brewers, Retail Brewers, Licensed Victuallers, and Intermediate Brewers, in Eng land, Scotland, and Wales; distinguishing the Number of them within the Limits of the Chief Office of Excise, and each of the several Collections; and setting forth the Nuthber of Licensed Victuallers who brew their own Beer ; from sth January 1827 to sth January 1828. Number. , '.5. '... 4 ti V I . t ; Tr' c , ' Collections. - ~,1 e ., -, ~ 0, =••• A 4 r_. 1 C. 11 W 9 r:^l .° T. ri E. I "g• 61 g = og: E -- -' 2..., g ~,1 a Barnstaple... •,• • 4 2 590 ... 539 Bath Bedford l2 11 651 1 239 Bristol Cambridge Canterbury 44 10 629 „, 29 Chester Cornwall Coventry :Iii•••0; 4 ll 19 1,136 1 , 010 Cumberland 4O ••• 1,229 ... 181 Derby l2 11 1,001 „ 922 Dors e t Durham 47 2 1,318 i 205 Essex 33 4 610 1 127 Exeter Gloucester l6 59 533 ... 411 Grantham 4l 13 1,070 Halifax l4 8 914 ~, . 606 Hants - 53 34 683 ~, 33 Hereford 5 4 587 ... 560 Hertford Hull Isle of Wight 33 12 436 .., 35 Lancaster Leeds Lichfield Lincoln l9 5 766 ~, 589 Liverpool 63 11 1,239 ... 42 Lynn - , B6 8 695 1 93 Manchester ,.. 27 41 1,078 ~, 648 Marlborough Newcastle 32 0 692 117 ... Northampton , Northumberland 2O ... 598 44 Northwich Norwich 65 3 1,041 ... 35 Oxford l7 12 771 1 373 Plymouth . l7 4 516 2 203 Reading 27 10 668 1 21 Rochester 5B 10 1,002 1 21 Sarum 26 13 456 ... ISO Salop 2 11 612 .. 584 Sheffield I 20 1,047 2 .310 Somerset Stafford l3 3;3 '713 ... 607 Stourbridge Suffblk . .. Surrey Sussex Uxbridge Wales, East .. .. 11 24 1,0E19 .., 1,044 --- Middle -- North 9 6 896 ... 739 West Wellington 3 1 274 ... 317 Whitby 47 ... 1,032 ... 171 Wigan 26 16 938 ... 4 , 12 Worcester ~. 3 13 168 ... 169 York 59 2 1,306 ... 414 - - - -- - Country Collections .... London, within the limits of the Chief Office 99 . 67 4,397 4 31 - -.-............ ---...- Total, England and Wales 1571 960 49,359 17 123,105 Total, Scotland - - Grand Total 1782 9(18 66,054 17 123,405 J. EWBANK, Clen.-Accotintant. Excise Office, London, March 17, 1828. CORN LAWS. MR. CHARLES GRANT. RESOLUTIONS raorosED IN A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE, ON THE CORN LAWS, MARCII 31, 1828. That it is the opinion of this Committee that every sort of Corn, Grain, Meal, or Flour, which is now, by Law, admissible fog• home use at certain times, shall be admis sible for home use at all times, upon payment of the follow. ing Duties respectiveli, viz. : IF IMPORTED FROM ANY TOREIGN COUNTRY. WHEAT. X. P. According to the average price of Wheat made up and published in manner required by Law, viz. Whenever such price shall be 625. and under 635. the quarter, the duty shall be, for every quarter 1 And in respect of every integral shilling by w hi c h mu c h price shall be above 625., such Duty shall be decreased by Is. until such price shall be 675. And in respect of every integral shilling, by which such -price shall be above 665., such Duty shall be decreased by 2s. until such price shall be 695. And in respect of every integral shilling, by which such price shall be above 685., such Duty shall be decreased bySs. until such price shall be 7l s. And in respect of every - integral shilling by which such price shall be above 70s. such Duty shall be decreased by 4s. until such price shall be 735. Whenever such price shall be at or above 73s the Duty shall be, for every quarter 0 Whenever such price . shall be under 625. and not under 61s. the Duty shall be, for every quarter And in respect of each integral shilling, or any part of each integral shilling, by which such price shall be under 61s. such Duty shall be increased by 18. BARLEY. Whenever the average price of Barley made up and published in manner required by law shall be 325. and under 335. the quarter, the Duty shall be, for every quarter 0 12 And in respect of every integral shilling by which such price shall be above 325. such Duty shall be decreased by ls. 6d. until such price shall be 40s. Whenever such price shall be at or above 405., the Duty shall be, for every quarter 0 Whenever such price shall be under 325., and not under 315., the Duty shall be, for every quarter 0 13 And in respect of each integral shilling, er any part of each integral shilling, by which each price shall be under 31e. such Duty shall be • increased by Is. 6d. OATS. Whenever the average price of Oats, made up and published in manner• required by Law, shall be 245., and under 255. the quarter, the Duty shall be, for• every quarter 0 9 And is respect of every integral shilling, by which such price shall be above 245., such Duty shall be decreased by Is. 6d. until such price shall be 30s. Whenever such price shall be at or above 30s the Duty shall be, for every quarter 0 I Whenever such price shall be under 245. and not under 235. the Duty shall be, for every quarter 0 10 And in respect of each integral shilling, er any part of each integral shilling, by which such price shall be under 235. such Duty shall be increased by Is. 6d. RYE, PEASE, AND BEANS. Whenever the average price of Rye, or of Pease, or of Beans, made up and published in manner required by Law, shall be 355. and under S6l. the quarter, the Duty shall be, for every 0 15 be decreased by Is. 6d, until such price shall And B q c i a n i : t r p e e r r s ' i pe . c . e . be 455. Whenever such price shall be at or above 431., the Duty shall be, for every quarter 0 1 Whenever such price shill be under Ms., and not under 345., the Duty shall be, for every quarter And in respect of each integral shilling, or any part of each integral shilling, by which such price shall be under 345., such Duty shall be increased by Is. 6d. WIIEAT-MEAL AND FLOUR. For every, barrel, being 1961b5., a Duty equal in amount to the Duty payable on five bushels of Wheat. OATMEAL. For every quantity of 1901b5., a Duty evel in amount to the Duty payable on a quarter of Oats. MAIZE OR INDIAN CORN, BUCK-WHEAT, BEER OR BIGG. For every quarter, a Duty equal in amount to the Duty IF payables PRODUCE or, AND qu arter of Barley. THE IM P ORTED FROM, ANY DRlTisnr POSSESSION IN NORTH AMERICA, OR ELSEWHERE OUR OF EUROPE. WHEAT. For every quarter 0 5 Until the price of British Wheat made up and published in manner required by Law, shall be 655. per quarter. Whenever such price shall be at or above 65p the Duty shall be, for every quarter 0 6' 61 _ _ BARLEY. For every quarter t, 2 6 Until the price of British Barley, made up and published in manner required by Law shall be 335. per quarter. 'Whenever such price shall be at or above 385., the Duty shall be, for every quarter 0 0 6 OATS. For every quarter l 0 2 0 Until the price of British Oats, made up and published in manner required by Law, shall be, for every - quarter 0 0 6 RYE, PEASE, AND BEANS. For every quarter , 0 3 0 Until the price of British Rye, or of Beans, or of Pease, made up and published in manner re quired by Law, shall be 40s. ___. Whenever such price shall be at or above 405., the Duty shall be, for every quarter 0 0 6, WHEAT-MEAL AND FLOUR. Fox every Barrel, being 196 lbs., a Duty equal initnottat to the Duty payable va five bushels of Wheat. OATMEAL. for every quantity of 190 lbs., a Duty equal in amount to the Duty payable on a quarter of Oat". MAIZE, OR INDIAN CORN, BUCK-WHEAT, REEK OR BIGG. For every quarter, a Duty equal in amount to thi Duty payable on a quarter of Barley. That it is the opinion of this Committee that all the said Duties shall be regulated and determined from week to week by the average prices of Corn, made up in the man ner required by Law ; which prices shall, at the several ports of the United Kingdom, determine the several rates of the said Duties for and during the week next after tlae receipt of the proper Certificates of each average prices at such ports respectively. RESOLUTIONS TO BE PROPOSED ON THE CORN LAWS, BY MR. WOLRYCHE WHITMORE. WHEAT. Whenever the average price of Wheat, made up and published in manner required by law, shall be hOs. and under 51s. the quarter, the duty shall be, fur every quarter 1 (1 0 And in respect of every integral shilling by which such price shall be above 505., such duty shall be decreased by 2s. until such price shall be 555. Whenever such price shall be 555. and not ex- ceeding 655., the duty shall be, for every quarter And in respect of every integral shilling by which such price shall be above 653., such duty shall be further decreased by 2s. until such price shall be 70s. Whenever such price - shall be at or above 70s , the duty shall be, for every quarter And in respect of each integral shilling, or arty part of each integral shilling, by which such price shall be under 505., such duty shall be• increased by 2s. BARLEY. Whenever the average price of Barley, made up and published in manner required by law, shall be 255. and under 265. the quarter, tha duty shall be, for every quarter 0 10 0 _ _ And in teipect of every integral shilling by which such price shall be above 255., snuh • , duty shall be decreased la. until such price shall be 30s. Whenever such price shall be 305., and not ex ceeding 355., the duty shall be, for every quarter 0 5 and in respect of every integral shilling by which such price shall be above 355., such duty shall be decreased by Le., until such price shall be 37e. Whenever the price shall be at or above 375., the duty shall be, for every quarter 0 1 And in respect of each integral shilling, or any part of each integral shilling, by which such price shall be under 255., such duty shall be increased by Is. 6d. .OATS. Whenever the average price of Oats, made up and published in manner required bylaw, shall be 17s. and under lee. the quarter, the duty shall be, for every quarter t 7 And in respect of every integral shilling by which such price shall be aboVe 175., such duty shall be decreased by Is. until such price shall be 21s. Whenever such price shall be 215., and not exceeding 265., the duty shall be, for every quarter And in respect of every integral shilling bywhich such price Shall be above 265., snch..diity shall be decreased Is. until such pride shall be 28s. Whenever such price shall be at or above 285., the duty shall be, for every quarter „ 0 1 And in respect of each integral shilling or any part of each integral shilling by which such price shall be under 175., such thity shall be increased by Is. RYE, PEASE, AND BEANS. Whenever the average price of Rye, Pease, and Beans, made up and published in manner required by law, shall be 305., and under 31s. the quarter, the duty shall be, for every quarter And in respect of every integral shilling by which such price shall he above 305., such duty shall be decreased by Is, 6e1., until such price shall be 355. Whenever such price shall be 355., and not ex ceeding 415., the duty shall be, for every quarter And in respect of every integral shilling by which such price shall be above 415., such duty shall be decreased Is. (id., until such price shall be 455. Whenever such price shall be at or above *e., the duty shall be, for every quarter ..... 0 1 And in respect of each integral shilling, or any part of each integral shilling, by which such price shall be under 305., the duty shall be increased by Is. 6d. WHEAT-MEAL AND FLOUR. engon l9 fi e ve lb b e u .— she a ls d o u f ty w z ana l t. in amount For every quantity of 252 lbs.—.a, duty equal Fo t r o e t v l e te ry du ba ty rr p e a l Ya be bl i OATMEAL. in amount to the duty payable on a quarter of eats. MAIZE OR INDIAN OR BIOG CORN, BUCK-WHEAT, BEER, For every quarter—a duty equal in amount to the duty payable on a quarter of Barley. O S RESOLUTIONS TO BE PROPOSE)) ON THE CORN LAWS, BY MR. HUAIE. 1. That from and after the sth of July, 1828, and until the sth of July, 1829, a duty of 15s. shall he imposed oa every quarter of Wheat imported from any foreign country into the United Kingdom ; and, for the year from the sth July, 1829, to the sth July, 1830, a duty of 14s. per quart;•r ; and, in every succeeding year afterwards, the duty shall lie reduced Is., until the sth of July, 1834, after which time the duty of 10s. shall remain a perma nent and fixed duty, payable on every quarter of 11 , heat. imported from foreign countries, except Canada, as here after provided for. 2. That from and after the sth of July, 1828, and until the sth of July, 1829, a duty of 10s. shall be imposed on every quarter of Barley imported front any foreign (tountry into the United Kingdom ; and, for the year from bth July, 1829, to sth July, 1830, a duty of 9s. per quarter; arid, tOr the year front sth July, 1830, to sth July, 1831, a duty of Bs. per quarter; and, from and after the sth July, 1831, a duty of Is. shall remain a permanent and fixed duty, payable on every quarter of Barley imported from foreign vided fi 3. 1 the 5* every into tbl July, 1 ter ; it 6s. shi every q except 1. Mr, c o k Ili 3. Mr. 1. Su 2. (lii 3. \V I 4. s 5. Sty I. Loll Ci I. M. Lo r d v vie a~ Moraia~ r. 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