The Sun. — London, England, 1841-03-30 00:00:00

0..... -- 0 0 5 the t Y kcaL woe' bed uis c s o To 0 , Pr of i°gasY gt tip." ri far'`' ted 11 roli vus f° r ho i s f r og: rertfortl Lad ies in g d tlo e' LoP o i: o°4 II v i ail' i.ti tli ij e o 0 fi a 0 i i s o b t i li ch e 0 . ,1 ju" The ra- air4 Hug ar,J c!° .1,030 5% for v ng , ' a d tt' ° t bc- ; irg., fter EI r EN; EDITION t.A.STI4IItN QUESTION. °Whir, • C' ti :th e .46 h t ‘ l l 44 M4tan ces ammunication ha§ just readied tit. The ,eer,wlikh we 'nave been favoured with it are 04 ' lea v e I on our mini no doubts of its accuracy : te r • write . • 1 : Pat is, Sunday Evening, Y M impart to e piese ne"ws. tent on not an unlooked-for, but still a t. , t 7 i ;tr , ft.:aeons:Fß has sat in judgment upon the great tit , a l l bee tf, with which the ruling' Powers here have, very .161 dior'' fro coquet:rig, as in - SO Me sort an apology for ~ e b ee, i te it their immediate assent ; but, whatever may ° l it at latest, stacks and objections by Wednesday or Thurs lee, test, the draft of the New rim act will have been re 4hAteoe., the hands of tb.e Baron de Bourqueney, oil rs ~u , some schisr a should yet arise among the e le _ ttlE er• 'l• O h r ,, °Tne difference between them and their Royal t 'ere sti g r eat d'.lfleulty has been the national amour 4 th e sa ra ul o ared by ..1. ThierS, and pushed advisedly, and IZeofexletratia no retreat, into demonstrations on a but g;- , ee which the - nation will rue for many a "ed, and aters's tricks are exposed, the nation is dis „44 after o iis l t e r . etity will be in London within twenty-four c cer reaches you.— Morning Post. tp , TIVy Sen, y • OTE DELIVERED ON THE 30TH OF JANUARY ' O 4 - 1 B EFFENDI ANIRASSAnOR FEO , THE SUB( IME TO H E " 1 1 a BRITANNIC MAJESTY, BY THE PLENIPO- 14 ",, A E 3 OP AUSTRIA, GREAT BRITAIN, PRUSSIA, AND L l. 4 1, Pliw,,llandersigne,l plenipotentiaries of the Courts of Aus ps od, Prussia, and Russia, have maturely meditated ehe ~ do l . a a t,eh from Reschid Pacha, dated Constantinople, 47:1 e th ` e ', : I !) 1256 (Bth December, 1840), which hit Excel -6t rc e ,i v K !' Effendi, am b assa d or f rom t h e S u bli me P o rt e , ire of her o rders to comm un i ca t e t o th e Fi rs t S ecre t ar y o f Furs, in B ritannic Majesty for the Department of Foreign 'kat e P r c'el• that it m i g h t b e made known to t h e C ourts L i ' A:e ' _s'grled th e convent i on of the 15th July. ire'us'es n!; to this commun i cat i on , his Highness the Sul ret)le. 4 . grant Alehemet Ali the hereditary pachalic of o ils ,, °u' e rsigned, after having bestowed the greatest atten slley t , co n - nounication, have decided on begging his Ex t,,4te ti t Effsudi to have the kindness to submit to the 11 :te t e ihmllowing observation:—They consider it their duty bt, th itel e ,at e tu the d ay f the despatch from Reschid Pacha, ab e u tatives of the Four Cou r ts had not made known e lt tt - 4t t the collective measure of the 15th October, and : .n ;'PPellrs fro m t h e last despatches from Constantin:ple Asi;„ tl) the 27th December, that at that epoch the Repre ,,ilspri" of the Four Powers had not thought themselves " t° address the l• • the to :Ministry of his Highness the ad etjthwer'- ‘_e, at estanding they .chaed to communicate. Nevertheless the ttl e Courts have remained the same. Seepar y gr„ t . 4 11 distance, and having no occasion to come to a had addressed to their Representa ill!es,nentanlinople orders bearing the mark of the most f) e „'Ne sei lith December the Government of her Britannic Acti,;: u dress d to its representative at Constantinople in , Th,lt!aPvessly confirming those of the 15th October.. ;Lie 2 6 - prt of Vienna forwarded precise orders to its nuncio tjNy t 4 ot last December. The Court of Pru , sta adhered hh ttoie r the instructions decreed in common on the - 15th of ei do a f `Rl the 14th of November. The Court of Rus . sia, on , 4 stas t e I) ecember, addressed to is Charge d'Affaires at I, oople instruct ions drawn up in a similar spirit. atle,sitoolentioning these facts the undersigned allow them 'les,4.°°lle that the counsels given in this manner by the re tie, •'""es a the four Courts, will exercise a great influence tios,4 'Pinions exposed by Reschid Pacha in his above-men '4llos:lettPatch of the Bth Oct., and that these counsels will 11'tai n ",e apprehe ns i ons expressed by that Minister re °lte! the ulterio r con d uc t to he followed by the Sublime e lsr . I ‘ ll ,,los s " , e f r iheless, to re move th ose appre h ens i ons , and to avoid t. t Me, the undersigned have thought expedient not to Y further report from Constantin ple, and, without de 'elletzhlttlYing to the communication of his Excellency 11 4 Iite, ,; ne ndi,:they have thought it their duty to state in • e hO eoli e °Pinion of their respective Courts, as they have had th e •'' doing by word cf mouth. "NI °°t•es they engacre the Sultan not only to recall :°te s l a of dew i' n deer Zed against Mehemet Ali, but, 4 ltl.` e r to 11 2.1 tafle • prom ise h im t h at his descendants shall be succes %rest I by his H th ighness to shall be vacant by the death of a govern' :,, h respect g the Four Powers will confine them kO's%e•fiar,ett!inding the Sublime Poite of the intentions the rcp t otal 'I.himself mapifested at the commencement of the ; Is is—intentions which servedas a basis for the Con- (4 )44 : bb 15th July. The Four Powers, in giving the Porte sent "Itt eec i e ' ' , filch the Fres eit note is intendcd to renew, are o that they do not indicate to him either an arrange ete a ' Zary to the rights of sovereignty, and to the legiti lltes orsty of the Sultan, or a measure in opposition to the Alta a PP.eha of Egypt is bound to fulfil. as a subject of the , :f -13 Ninted by his Highness to govern in his name a pro- T' e j:• z le Ottoman empire. truth is confirmed not only by articles 111., V., and e s, I,`"e separate Act annexed to the Treaty of the 15th t° at a . lso by the instructions that . the Four Courts have the deep Ambassadors at Constantinople, in consequence P k t 'ltte,7'laration of the 15th October. In fact this Act sti bt'i 1 3t t „.‘ 1) . ) that all the treaties and laws now.in vigour in Vklt o ",.,all empire or which shall be so later, shall be ap ,et Pachalic of Egypt as well as to the other parts of kPIel ; 4 ', a ° empire. This condition, which the Four Courts tie4 o Tdispensable, forms in their eyes one of the most so -41 e uniting Egypt to Turkey, as an integral part of the 4 1 'Thpire. By the terms of (par. 6) the same Act the he t . ., 44 sea forces, which the Po to may keep, form a part of th e e n ' e of the Ottoman empire, and shall be disposable for lerieral service of the State. lhe t , i s n os fine, it has been formally recognised by the note of e kks ," October, deliberated in London, and by the instruc "t4 -°° fivlned by the memorandum of the 14th of last Sti t le rnt) . e r , if that . ' Mehemet Ali, cr one of his descendants L i ° l atte the conditions on which the hereditary Govern :tee EgYpt is granted to th : em, tha . t title shall be with ster. t . 'btu them. The undersigned think that the complete - 1% 1 ; 4 of the conditions . above mentioned will fully answer of the Sultan, w ill satisfy the wishes of the All Its 2 and happily terminate the work of pacification which 44 44 — 'n the aim of their reciprocal engagements fixed in the Y of the lath of July. Clk. f act, by the accomplishment of these conditions, the pa tties wh h i ad eh i the - solicitude and foresight of the high-contracting d bebl i t ll b tt n a n in t e The Sultan would then 'fZef°,warely he obedience and submission Pes,T the a Go e ve o rnor of Egypt, the inhabitants of that i l lles t " would be sheltered from the oppression they have :oeed of I:tte years in consequence of the abuses of the ;Lsttrui.nistraliOn..7 In fine, Mehemet A . li obtam a arer s ttion for himself and his family, without encroaching skte' manner on his duties as a subject of the Ottoman " The undersigned have the honour," &c. (Here follow the signatures.) EGYPT. " ALEXANDRIA, MARCH 7. 4 44 k .entioned in my last that the firman from the Sultan ~rihere, but that it contained conditions so much at Otiv -te with the terms of the treaty of July and the Napier d ' l ,4s 4 1 ' ci tion, that the Pacha has refused to accede to it.,as well th e 'cued the Sultan, showing the positive injustice, ex li t i l ,aord i tte r impossibility, of governing Egypt under such 4 eti 4 ' r Y trammels. Sir C. Napier has approved of the te t. - „ s P r oceedings in this transaction, and he does not he shame have c leelare that the conduct of the Porte is a most " 4 :11 of faith. It is quite clear that Lord Ponsonhy should b A kij i ; ci sted the conduct of the Sultan, and insisted upon his ''' 1 , 1 ,,,g the full terms of the trees' y and convention to Mehemet t 'enlarly after he had fulfilled every condition to the fu 1 ; I ,ti , , 4 : i t tlen of Sir C. Napier particularly as the honour of Great :!kt t n 4 was engag din these arrangements. My own opinion is, r d Ponio - h e y considered the Pacha so fallen that he would any terms short of death. But this is another proof of hleh m ant of knowledge this diplomatist has with regard to 1 7 1 , ' , - "et Ali. I am quite certain that the Pacha will not ns e r" atlY but . the full conditions promised him, and it be eat Britain % . eat Britain to demand of the Sultan the immediate tee,, 4.4 1 1 t of the Convention. Unleis this is done, all that has n'ir tl e e 'eeted by British arms will have been thrown away. ot t thellarles Napier left in the Stromboli steamer for Marmoire, 0 0,ess f , l st inst. as he canrot do anything until he receives ad .." 1111; he England. The Pacha has been much pleased with „ 5 has acted throughout the affair with good sense and 44 1 ' "'"eh to hi s own cre dit an d f o r the interests of Great Bri- NI% , was by his admirable management that he prevailed n h ie the Pacha to give full effect to the Treaty of Commerce, o tter t f. I before mentioned to you had been put t t ~,u• Colonel Napier remains here to conduct to Syria !Re%"„ailling Emirs and Sheiks sent to this country as host rps4:,:" of whom have arrived here, and are preparing for their braO l 'e. The Pacha went to Cairo on the 28th ult. to see both 'TA, and still remains absent. Strange reports are afloat, tzth t ai to his s rious indisposition and disagreement with his I rtith'.; the former is probable, but I do not think there is an . y . Itt l i eg oi the latter. While the political state of the country is ° l'di t , - ' n ed, We cannot hope business to resume, and the extra- Mt ti , a q delays and disappointments on this bead make me lgoLt hopeless. It is said that the cotton crop will reach "eq:"`" eantars, but it cannot be correctly estimated at pre /non I regret to inform you that we have h•cl during the 1 44;_ 14 cases of the plague. We are much in want of 44,4" shippin g. The - c.xchanges are upon London 73, at kar ta lt l.,o o ti . ttis ,lars:illes, 522; Trieste, 123 ; Leghorn, 123; - ' l I ORTIJGUESE FINANCES. 1 4 `la. l Decree appointing a Commission to in el 44 4 pito the best means of improving the Fi ', " of Portugal:- 1 4 N 4 being ways and necesiary to reconsider the proposal of / 1 '4 1 . 4 w nich accompanied the estimate for the year 1811-2, Iti„ l 4 ,,,ted to the Cortes in fulfilment of Article 136 of the Po- Vla.t;‘-'orastitution of the Monarchy, and convenient, in order tl kt -ew proposals may be laid before the Legislative Bod y , Iti t h a most scrupulous examination may be entered upon of would Mith t educti ons and retrenc h ment as would not be incompatible Public service„ which in the prevent circumstances the C c be carried on w ith mor e promptitude and efficacy with l i„de l :9„ .° Peration o f ill us trious and impartial persons ; I con exPedient as well for the above-mentioned end, as for Atitii;lisifieration of the indispensable means of balancing the 14 14.,,i re eeipts and expenditure, and to terminatecthmemnietctensesit)ye s r eat ed ri g rucourse to provisional means, th . at c eloposed of the persons named in th a e annexed list, l'it trior °ll " ns a part of this decree ; hoping from their zeal and the best results to their labours. List f (Signed) THE QUEEN." ' - eer °- Persons forming the Committee to which the present ,bee refers • l 'ilit o uke A l pf lla, President ; Agostinho Albano da Silveira 7 „ it uto.„';` t oten'o me Jose d'Avila, Barao de Chancelleiros, Berno rp pe "On 0 0 ri n ' -"° Zap' 11' vi 'd d ' , Tiles Pereira Ferraz, Joaquim e "e cure, Joaquim Jose Falcao, Jose Joaquim Comes s,,ro, Jose Antonio Maria de Sousa Azevedo, Jose da 1 %11 1 , -I rvalho, Manoel Gongalves Ferreira, D. Manoel da"gnal, Visconle orto Covo de Ba.ndeira, Visconde de *ll act —andei ra, and Antonio Jose Pedroso de Almeida, who secretarv. '4; 4 family of Mr. J. Hubbard, watch case tho (- 4 Pool -terrace, City-road, has been thrown into th e 61,ireat%t affliction since Saturday, in consequence of sar - i 'B l l 'Pcaranc e f his son, a fine little boy, about five t a t ah o u „;ag'• He left his aunt's, in the next s'reet only, witr. - "` t'o o'clock on the above day to return to his chit has not since beta and of, notwithstanding c ircumstance has Leen made known at every li;l s - %t .tion and Workhouse in the metropolis, earl hand p:erY extensiv e ly eirco!ated, giving a deseriptim of Lp b„ - T n • It is supposed Y that tl e little fellow was caught I) „e,ets t ±i„ - "u` evil disposed person, and detained in the ex -11131.0g a re v;arel, and which is not at all un_ t he .45 • 1 . is a e..nversant boy, and well acquaiabt ed with This 15 stx Y from which he has so mysteriously 91,.p, b Was s al ; PP"ition i 3 stren,,g , thened by the fact, taa. a c laon t h' ss ," , g from th e same neighbourhood, during the last ('" many days, but immediAt , ly brough t forward a reAa-(1 for the rear , ry ~i the chid. It • „ , 44 ' r 1 " itvti• tii:rtt irr“ttlQ • - th " • " 1 e t a l •Lu the inetrup,li.t, wou i.iutia? eav0 11 ." ,.,. °f icward, and the officers are active to their en a to discover theEe inhuman wretches. COURT CIRCULAR. The Q.Jcen, attended by The Countess of Mount Edg cumbc, took an airing in an open barouche and four yester day afternoon. His Royal krghness Prince Alb:.rt, at tended by Sir Elward Bona.er and Lord Alfrel P.;get, rode out on b rieback et the same titre. Viscount Melbourne had an andiene.3 of her Majzsty yesterday. The Royal Dinner Party at Buckingham Palace last cv r.i g included her Royel Mghness the Duchess of Kent, Lady Anne Miria Dawson, Earl and Countess Dc Grey, E rl of Erroll, Earl of Uxhtidge, Viscount Mel bourne, Viscount Duncannon, Lord and L‘dy Narreys, Lord and Lady Kinna'rd, Sir Edward Lytton Bulwcr, and Dr. Prcet win!. The Band cf the Royal Regiment of Horse Guards at tended during dinner Her Majesty honoured Sir William Newton with a final setting for her Coronation Picture yesterday at Bucking ham Mice, after which Sir William had the honour of sul , mitting the pictu7e to the Queen Dowager at Marl borough House, with which her Majesty was graciou:ly pleated to express her approval. Tne;r Royal Ifg'anesses the Duchess of Gloucester and the Duhe of Caiihridge visited her Majesty the Queen Dowager yeA2Tday, at Mzrthorough Howe. The Duchess cf Gloucester vistred the Duke of Cam bridge yesterday, at Cambridge Hons.?. A depwation, ineludi-g Lord Brcalalbare, Mr. Mon t,ith, and Mr. Han Pton, had an interview with Viscount Melbourne yesterday, in Downing stmt. A deputation from Chilsea aod Pim,ice, consisting of Meisrs. G. Bync, N. Newland, J. Perry, D. S. Framp ton, Morrison, Ridge, Jures, and Ludlow, hal an inter vi,w with the Charcidler c:f the Exchequer yesterday, st l is official residence in Downing-street. The F. encli Charge d'Affoires transactel business yes terday, at the Foreign-office. • The Bail of Tinto, Lord John Russell, and ether Cabi net MiLi•t rs, went to Deptford yesterday, to inspect the steam vessels in the river, fitting for the Niger exeeition. De patches from the Gc,w2raors of the'Maurilius, and of the Care of Good Hope, were received yesterday, it the Colonial-office. The 'Earl Cawdor, Mr. Hodges, M. P., and Mr. G. Nicholls, had interviews with the Marqui3 of Normanby yest relay, at the Mime-office. Viscount Melbourne's dinner party on Saturday, irt eluded Lords Camoys. Colborne, &lye and &le, and Durcir, Sir Harry Ve.r,ey, Sir C. Lemon, sir R. Price, Sir B. Chichester, Colonel Largtln, Major Vivi in, Messv. Slancy, Gisbor,-.e, Oswald, Ila:tie, and• Hodges. FASHIONS FOR APRIL. (From the 46 London and Paris Ladies' Magazine of Fashion.") Small patterns, stripes, and checks, will be fashionable this season, in mourning dresses; and for the promenaie, poplins brochees, watered silks, l'armure prairie, in small brochee flowers, on light green ecru, or lilac grounds ; orientales, you de soie, fleur de Es ; velvet ailes de mouche, is the prettiest n)velty, and derives its name from possessing the softness of velvet, with lightness and variety of its tints ; the armure ro caile is also admired. Tight sleeves cannot be considered very general, in light materials they will not he admitted; flounces arc not much in favour, skirts continue to be made long, and the bodies are still pointed. Fancy bead kuttons are much used on ball dresses, and it is expected they will be fashionable on redingotes this season. For ball dresses, crap; 5, gauzes, watered silks, with double and treble skirts, gnimp trimmings, marabouts, and flowers ornament them, the corsa , ,,•e a la Grecque, and the short sleeves' full trimmed. Black has been very fashionable in Paris, whether in velvet, satin, watered silk, crare, or lace dresses ornamented with diamonds or flowers. Redingotes of silk are trimmed with folds, edged by a narrow fringe, or with small chicorees. Scarfs of the same material as the dress are much admired in Paris, the ends are fringed, and the folds are confined on the shoulders ; they are worn in silk, mousselines de laine, &c. &c. Scarfs of shaded silk, orange glacee, with white or blue glacee, are trimmed with point d'Alaicon • black lace scarfs, as well as those of point lace, mechlin, muslin, china crape, and foulard, are all in fashion. A new shaped berthe has appeared, with four points, one reaches to the point of the body, the others are on the shoulders and back. Berets, toques of black velvet, with marabout turbans re sille, round hats a la creole, a la belle poules ; turbans of gauze, embroidered in gold, with crowns of velvet sprigged with gold, or of cachemire, with scarfs of point lace and tassels, Alge rien. Coiffures Madonna ala Louis XIV., small toquets de page, hats a la marquise, arc all now in demand. Straw bonnets are preparing in Paris, a jours, with liserees of velvet, others with filets of chenille ; also close capotes of Leghorn and paille de 1 iz. Capotes of crape are very fash ionable just now in Paris, in pink, green, lilac, with mara bouts of the same coliair, or wreaths of roses, mixed with heart's-ease and reseda. EARL OF CARDIGAN. A Peturn of the Expenses incurred by Government in prepar ing for and conducting the Prosecution of the Earl of Cardi gan in the House of Lords ; distinguishing, under separate heads, the amounts paid to the several parties engaged therein. Fees to Counsel and their Clerks 1:230 1 0 Expenses paid Witnesses l9 8 0 Fees to Officers of the House of Lords 22 4 0 Shorthand Writer 24 10 0 Stationery, and Miscellaneous Expenses 4 7 6 £3OO 10 6 Eapcnse of fitting-up and furnishing the House of Lords ... £1,290 12 6 P. GORDON. Whitehall, Treasury Chambers, March 8, 18411. REDUCTION OF POSTAGE TO HAMBURG CUXHAVEN, AND LUHEC.—By an order issued from the General Post-office it has teen determired, that on and after the 6th of April next the postage of all letters posted in the Uni ed Kingdom for either of the above places be reduced from is. Bd. and ls. 10d. to an uniform rate of 6d. the half ounce and is. the ounce, and so on. This rsduation does not apply to letters for the above places wt. en sent via France, Oriels will only be done in cases where specially directed. One day last week Mr. John Briggs, formerly a gamekeeper to the late Earl of Durham, was standieg near to the Fetfield station of the Stanhope and 'f yne Railroad; and, seeing a child in danger of be ir.g run over by a train of coal-weggone, he rushed forward to stretch it from impending destruction. He succeeded in that object; but one of his feet gt tting fast below the lip of the rail, he could not get himself clear Mere the train came and parsed over his leg, mangling it so dreadfully that amper.a don was necessary. He is, we are happy to heae, doing tolerably well.— Tyne Pilot. A hive of bees, the property of Mr. R. Mar shall, of Branxton, near Coldstretm, left the hive a few days ago, and whilst Mr. A. Rankin was observing their proceedings, they lighted upon his back, when an attempt was made to sweep them off, which did not succeed. Mr. Rankin was then obliged to strip off his coat, and heing well skil'ed in the management of bees, he imme diately dived amongst them with his fingers and caught the queen bee, which be returned back to the hive, and in an instant the whole swarm were quiet, and he did not receive a sir gle sting. —7'yne Pilot. THE ATLANTIC STEAMERS.—(From the Liverpool Albion of yesterday.)—lf the President sailed from New York on the 10th instant, the has, at the dine of our writing this paragraph, been 18} days on her pas sage. As this would be a very long one for a steamer, it is conjectured, that, no accident having happened to her on her voyage, she could not have sailed on the day pre viously fixed. All that is known respecting her is, that Captain Roberts had orders to comply vtieh any request which Mr. Fox, our Minister at Washington, might make for her detention to cenvey despatches to England. The Britannia would sail from Boston on the 16th instant. The chances are, therefore, now equal that she will arrive as soon as the President. Both vessels may reach pert in the course of the day. Certainly the Britannia will arrive before daylight to-morrow. THE LATE MR. ROSE, USHER OF THE FRENCH CONVENTION. —The death of Mr. J. A. Rose has lately been announced in the newspapers as having occurred at Paris, et the advanced age of 84. From the biographical sketch accompanying the announcement be appears to have been an actor in the principal revolution ary scenes in Pa is at the time of the imprisonment of Louis XVI., and subsequently, but attached to the royalist cause. The writer of this paragraph was introduced to hlm by mere accident at Paris, in 1825, as a Scotchman. By way of tasting him the question was put jocularly, " Hoo's a' wi' e, man ?" The old man instantly held out h's deed, and, giving the other proffered hand a be rty slap and shake, answered, with great emphases, " Man, I'm 'crawly I" He was a native of Glasgow, and in 1325 had been absent from it 50 3e :rs, having left it when he was 18. The palace of the Luxembourg seemed to be his home, and every door was opened at his bidding. Glen ow Courier. THE APPROACHING DEMONSTRATION IN GLASGOW.— We learn that it has been resolved that the demonst-atier, announced to take place in this city during the Easter recese, will not be confined, as was originally intended, to the consideration of the Corn-laws alone, but will embrace the broad general question cf the duties on every description of goods and produce imported ioto the United Kingdom, including, of course the duties levied upon corn and provisions. We believe t'-at this charge will efford very gencral, satisfaction, by iving rn interest to the meeting which w oul I have been canting had it been restricted to the Corn-law question. The attendance of Members of Parliament will also, in consequence of the ilteretion, be larkely increased, and we may expect to hear the entire subject of the commer cial policy of the country developed by many of the ablest Members of the Legislature, and by deputations from several of the leading commercial and manufacturing toasts. We understand that the Riding-schoo', in Cam bridsc-street, has been fixed upon as the place where the demonstt scion is to be held. It forms the largest covered space within Vie city, and is capable of being fitted up to bad comfortably somewhere about fifteen hundred indivi duals. Tue precise day for the festival has not been named, but we believe will shortly be announced. Glesgove Evening Post. FICTITIOUS CHECKS.—CAUTION TO THE PUBLIC.—On the evening of Saturday wesk a note, en closing a check for 61. 10.. was preseatelat the bar of Mr. Moore, the proprietor of Pe.l's Coffee-house, Fl t strei:t, by a youth of about 14 or 15 years of age. Mr. Moore being from home at the time, the note, of which tie following is a copy, was banded to Mrs. Moore : "2, Fleet-street, March 19, 1840. Mr. Prcedy will feel greatly obliged .o Me. Moore if he could cash the inclosed cheek for him in any possible way, being in immediate want of change, or else he would not trouble him." Mrs. Moore having no doubt that the note and check had been sent, as represented by th e you th, by Mr. Prcedy, the hatter, near Temple-bar, and who happens to be the col league of Mr. Moore, as overseer of the parish of St. Dunstan, at one: paid the amount of the latter. Monday Mr Moore presented the cheek at the banking-house of Sir C. Pike and Co , upon which it was drawn, and was informed that no such person as G. Redman', the drawer, , s brown there, Sev,-rBl respeetal;l" traligirnon recently been duped by fictitious chec'es of a similar dc. scription, and meat likely by the same party, as the mode of obtaihing cash for them is precisely similar. Tri I', SUN. LONDON. TUESDAY , MARCH 30, 1811 WALSALL ELECTION Con- MITTEE. (Continued from The Sun of yesterday.) Counsel and agents having been called, The CIIAIR.IIIAN said the Committee had decided that Mr. Wrangham do proceed with his case in behalf of the itting Member. Mr. Sergeant WRANGIIAM then addressed the Committee upon the evidence that had been adduced in support of the petition. He referred particularly to the evidence of Patch, which he contended was contradicted in all the material parts by that of other and much more credible witnesses. After a lengthened address of mote than two hours, the Learned Coun sel concluded by submitting that the allegations in the petition had not been sustained. It being then four o'clock, the Committee adjourned till to morrow, when Mr. Sergeant Merewether w.ll be heard in reply. ALBAN'S ELECTION COM MITTEE. (Continued from The Sun of yesterday.) Mr. Adams was recalled, and stated that he received the money as stated in the opening if Mr. ilillyard, or the pur pose of voting f.,r Lord Listowell. He was askei what Mr. . . Webster said:on giving the money. Mr. A usTIN objected. They could not show agency by such aline of examination. The Committee decHed that the question was within the rule, and might be put. In answer to Mr. HILLYARD the witness bore out the whole statement of the opening. In his cross-examination by Mr. AUSTIN he said he break fasted wi , h Mr. (abbell, and canvassed wit`i him during the day before the arrival of Lord List(iwell. There were present Wingrave, Quin, and lilagg, and a great many more. He canvassed, and took a prominent part in the election Irom the day of er issu:ng the writ till the last, and wore the true blue colours. Went down to Mr. Webster's after seeing Quin and Wingrave at the Committee-room of Mr. Cabbel in the Verulam Arms. Stebbing was there also. and they want immediately from there to Dr. Webster's. He left the polling place in a hurry—went to Hertford with a Mr. Seacatik, because at the poll they threatened to knock out his brains. At Hertford Mr. Nichol son, the agent for Lord Salisbury, provided for him. After staying a week there he came to a place in Hoxton, and was now at an hotel in' the neigh bourhood. He had not paid his bills at either place, except at Hoxton. He believed he had often been called " Lying Adams," both at Aylesbury and in St: Alban's. but he did not care for such nicknames. He knew John Gibbs, but did not believe that he ever put down regularly all the lies he (witness) gave utterance to in a day. Many jokes had passed between them, but he did not believe that was one of them. The witness was very shortly reexamined, and the Com mittee adjourned at near five o'clock till half-past eleven to morrow. SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS FROM THE EVENING PAPERS OF YESTERDAY. (From the Globe.) The recent debate on Lord Mahon's motion respect ing the employment of convicts under sentence of transportation, at the hulks, is useful as directing pub lic attention once more to a subject of such immense social importance as the administration of secondary punishments. Like all questions which ins , Ave a variety of subordinate considerations, that of t:ans portation, and secondary punishments in general, never fails to elicit a curious medley of individual opinions. Each man has his penance to propose : Archbishop Whatalv, for instance, would retain all convicts in penitentiaries at home ; Lord Mahon, on the con trary, would entirely abolish this mode of punishment. The Noble Lord, as far as we understand his meaning, would return to the old system of convict assignment in the colonies, and send abroad as many as possible of those sentenced to short terms of punishment. He sets off the evils, sanatory and moral, of the hulks, against the colonial enormhics of transported con victs. The. Committee on secondary punishments of 1835 is pitted against that on transportation in 1838-9. We think Lord Mahon's motion was premature, yet we cannot say that we are sanguine as to the working of the Hulks and Penitent;ary in distinction from the transportation system. Still less did we coincide with the Report of the Transportation Committee, whose main argument was a deduction from the crimes com mitted in the convict colonies, of the vicious system under which they had arisen. Overlooking the dreadful difficulties to be encountered when you have felons for the staple of your community, the Report dwelt on their depravity as conclusive against the maintenance of a system which had at least a flourishing colony to show in its favour. But the evidence collected by the Transportation Committee is most valuable ; it is a Oark page from the book of human nature, but one most useful for legis lators to study, and, A 3 containing the history of a co lony unique in the annals of mankind, it be'ongs to the dom .in of general history. Our own conviction, sup ported by the opinions of many who are practically acquainted with the working of the present system, is in favour of the transportation of convicted criminals ; we think it favourable to the morals of the mother country to remove from it those who have disgraced it by their crimes ; we think also, that it would, under proper regulation, afford at least an equal chance, nay, a greater one, of individual reformation. (From the Courier.) Whilst on all hands the New Poor law officials of So merset House are challenged with harsh and heartless administration of a law essentially harsh and heartless in its principles as in its provisions, it is not a little strange to find the accusers who bring the proof, and the Judges who pass the sentence, with fussy fl;urish and contradictory compliment labouring to bleach their own black-made Eth:op white again, with sundry lip salve parole evidence to individual character, which, if admissible at all, establishes the fact et once that they are all, " ell honourable men," whose hu manity, theoretically may not be impeached, how ever in practical working the " hardness of heart " done is transparent. We, however, arc unequal to the apprehension of that humanity which interprets and administers a cruel law with a rigour beyond the law, except, indeed, upon the Draconian principle of hu manity which impels the executioner coolly to shorten the agony of his victims by an extra twist of the noose, or a supplementary tug at the legs. The Commis sioners may be, and are, doubtless, very respectable gen tlemen and kind hearted in the relations of private life within their own circle ; but of their humanity in the larger tense towards kind, towards the poor, we may be pardoned for incredulity, seeing that the overt demonst , ations lie all the otter way. The party really chargeable with new Poor-law barbarism and new Poor-law official bluster may be, as the 211 ur ning Post would seem to say, none other than the offici ous Secretary, once well known as one of that penny-a• lining class whom a Rev. Mr. Spencer, somewhere about Bath, iu a furious pa nphlet just published in assertion of the Christian tendencies of new Poor law oppression, energetically stigmat;sea as the peas of the Press and society. In behllf of that ze dous func tionary we must, however, repudiate the apologetic plea ; for in logic as law the axiom holds equally good, qui facit per alios, facit per se, awl, so long as the agent is nether rebuked nor removed, his acts, vicariously per formed though they be, are but the emanation, and must be charged to the responsibility, of a suFerior will. (From the Standard.) We have observed with great r egret that some difficul ties have occurred in the opulent borough of Marylebone, which are likely to interfere at t . :le next general election with the return of its present upright and excellent re presentative, Lord Teignmouth. We perceive tho,l these difficulties are entirely of a pecuniary kind, wis ing from the indisposition on the part of the Con servatives to raise an adequate fund for the contest. We are quite sure that the Con servatives of Marylebone are actuated by too liberal a spirit, and are too anxious to pre serve the position in Parliament which they have so nobly won, to allow themselves to lose the ser vices of a Member who does them so much credit as the Noble Lord who now represents them, and we can not help feeling satisfied that when they consihr tie sacrifices Oat Noble Lord has made, and the inde pendent spirit and ability with which he has repres3nted them in Parliament, they will yet combine with an ac tive and vigorous exertion to secure his services in Vie next Parliament. MARIE ANTONIETTE.-1. ventured a few words of consolation, hinting that times were now im prosing, and that her popularity and happiness would be restored. She shook her herd. We were alone. I know not how I was worked up to it, or had courage to make the proposal ; but I dii so—that if she thought herself in danger, my services were at her command, and tt at she could come with me to England in the disguise of my maid, ahrm I could easily dispute of by sending her under some pretext to her friends at St. Germain. She thanked me, and smiled faintly, but sad nothing would incluc. - • her to leave h. r family. She added that she had refused other offers of the same sort. " Besiles"—and she looked round—" si je voulais, cela no se pourrail pas ; it y a trop d'cspions." I took leave of her with rcgret and affretion.—Su•inburne's Courts of Europe. MA RYLEBONE VESTRY.—On Saturday, at the ordinary weekly meeting, Mr. Daniell in the chair, on a motion being made and seconded that fit ss. should be paid to the Bishop of London for a faculty to authoriz a marri•ges, &c , in the chapel during the repairs at the rectory church, Mr. Kensett objected to the payment of the , money. He said that persons could as cati'y be married in the chu.ch during the repairs a: at any other time, and instanced the couple who were marrie I on the ruins of Old Camberwell church ; he opposed the payment cf the mone y. Mr. Gomm and other vestrymen said that the bishop could enforce the demand against the churchwar den, and recommended its liquidation. On a division the original motion was earr:ed by a large majority, and the vestry broke up. The Rev. Hosea Guinness, LL.D., expired last week' at his house in Dublin, at an advanced age. He was appointed Chaplain to the late Royal Dublin Ra. giment on the 3d December, 1704, and placed on the re tired ful!-pay, en the reduction of that corps in 1795, since which time, therefore, he wan In the receipt of the full pay of his rank. He was, consequently, one of what has been quaintly termed " King George's hard bargains."— United Service Gazette. COLOGNE, MARCH 16.—Our Government has taken care in silence to be able to resist with energy t h e storm, which we hepe is now dispelled. The Imiliffs in the province of the Rhine and Westphalia have been so FC'l , ', that preparations for calling out the first body of tint Landwehr are complete. All the horses fo r cavalry are tegiatt.rcd, and a t.w days stance to have this numerous and well trained portion of the army under arms. IMPERIAL ,PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, IJABea 29. CASE OF LORD WALDEGRAVE. After the presentation of a few petitions, Laid DENMAN said he rose for the purpose of justifying himself from a charge made against him, in les capacity of C ief Justice in the Court of Queen's Bench. From ono who hell the high station which he had the honour to fill, it could not be ex pected that he would notice every complaint which might be made against his administration of the law. But when he found it stated, as a grave reason for the adoption of a particular legislative measure,' that there had been a very scandalous proceeding on the part of the first criminal Judge of the land, for which he ought to be exposed to severe censure, if it were well founded, he thought he owed it to himself —he owed it to their Lordships and to the a dministration of justice, having a clear and complete answer to the charge, to state what that answer was. It was 6upposed that in some case which had come 1 eore him at the last Nisi Prius Sittings held fer the county of Middlesex, that he (Lord Denman) for the base purpose of screening some defendants who 1 appencd to be persons of high rank and station, one of them a Member of their Lordships' House, brought that proceeding to an end, and prevented it from being carried further, and suggesting a eezuaiary coin peesation, instead of making that public example of the offenders, which the nature of the case was said to require. He should certainly have thought That without strong and clear evidence of the fact the whole history of his life would afford sufficient refute t• on to the enarge.---(Heae, hear.) But it had been ited in such a' winner, with such authority, that he felt it was but right of him to bring the case before their Lordships ; not s o mucle fur the purpose of explanation, as, in order to make a simple statement of the truth, because •he .be bevel that such a statement would put an end to every imputation that had been cast upon him. On the day in que eion a case was brought before him, in which Lord Wel legrave and another gen tleman were charged with having committed an assault on a policeman ; and it was said that he (Lord Denman) had directed the parties to enter into a corn promise, and stop any further proceedings in that way. In the first place, he had given no such direction—he had no power to give such direction. The proceedings had not been stopped—the proceedings were now actu ally going on, and would, in the ordinary course of prac tice, be brought before the Court of Queen's Bench next term. That fact was now discovered to he true, and it got rid of great part of the charge brought against bins. Tee case would come on before the Q teen's Bench in tie next Term, but then it had been supposed, and that was the position the case at present assume 1 , that that was no act of his, and certair ly it was not his act, but the act of the kw. But it was said that the Corn unssioners of Police had done a great seiance to the public in going on with the case, not withstanding his (Lord Denman's) recommendation. Tue answer to that vies that no such suggestion was ever made, no such recommendation, and no such oeinion had bees at ell declared by him, and he had a in st accurate account of what passed on that occasion, which ho weal take the liberty of reading to their Lordships, and which was corroborated by the account which appeere I in the Times newspaper of the follow ing day. He would observe that cases which were re moved by certiorari from the inferior Courts were brought before the Court without any previous know ledge of the facts on the part of the Judge. No depositions were laid before him, and in point of fact he was wholly ignorant of all that had occurred. His Learned Friend Sir F. Pollock, who was Counsel for the defenda :t3, applied to the Court for permission to withdraw their plea of not guilty, and plead guilty. They also expressed their regret, for what had occurred, and their anxiety to make every possible atonement and apology. Now, it was impossible to mistake the meal hag of the word " atonement ;" it meant to make some pecuniary compensation where a public outrage was committed, and t' at a public example was .necessary. No such compromise ought to take place ; but where the only punishment that could be inflicted on the defendants was a pecuniary fine, it was impossible to deny that it would be much more ad visable that such a compensation should go to the in jured party than to the Treasury, where he could de rive no benefit from it. That observation having been made by Sir F. Pollock, he (Lord Denman) had said, At least they act right now ; let their plea be with drawn, and a Leese of guilty be recorded. I hope the ease is of such a nature as to admit of its being settled by private reparation." That was the extent of his (Lord Denman's) observations, and that had been con strued into a suggestion on his part to screen great public offenders DA prevent a public example being inade.—(Hear, hear.) He did fl suer himself that wherever that simple statement was heard, it would at once relieve him and the administration of justice from that one of the many attacks which certain persons had lately thought the:es:lves justifiel in making upon it. He was aware of what had beee said ia the public papers, of which it did not become him to take the sbghtest notice ; but when he found that it was made the subject of general accusation copied from one paper into another, and repeated by an Ho nourable Member of the House of Commons, on an occasion to which he need not now allude, and also stated that it was the grossest impropriety, and that the whole public were exclaiming against the monstrous in. quality of the sentence, when Mr. Justice Erskine, at Salisbury, bad ordered a man to be transported for ;fifteen years for a much less heinous offence, he (Lord Denman) thought it necessary to bring forward this statement before their Lord ships. He must say he thought this exclamation a most extraordinary one. flow could any man know which was the most heinous offence althea the one had been tried and the other had not ?—( Hear, hear.) He (Lord Denman) was at a loss to conceive what right any man had to publish a statement made in ignorance of the facts of the case. Was this the mode to secure the free administration of justice? Was this the mode in which prejudice was to be excited against the Courts of Law ? To t iko for granted every ex-parte statement, and use this case as a proof of the inequality with which justice was administered, on account of the sentence in the case of a felon who had been tried and found guiity, and on whom Mr. Justice Erskine had pronounced rentence ? He (Lord Denman) with in dignation had seen it stated that one man had been punishe I with 15 years' transportation for a less heinous offence than the one to which he had alluded. He did not mean to defend Mr. Justice Erskine. He did not know that any attack had been made upon him, but it might be said he had punished a man because he was poor just as another Judge had favoured another men because he was rich. He was sure the Learned Judge needed no defence or panegyric. A more honourable d upright Judge never appeared upon the Witish Bench. He believed be might appeal to his Noble Friend at the head of th e Home Department. that in that case, justly jealous as the people were that justice should be impartially administered, there had been uo application at the Home-office to com mute ti e senteece ; but what a notion it was to take sentences at one plece and another, and apply a kind of foot rule to them—(Cbeering)— to regard them as a sum in addition or subtrac tion, and to say there is so much heinousness in one case and only so much in another, and, therefore, there was clearly an inequality in the administration of justice. Such a course was more likely to secure contempt for the law than any other. He abstained with some self-restraint from entering upon any other observation on the present occasion. Bat with regard to the notion of the disparity of punishment to the sentences pronounced upon the ministers of the law by those who cannot have the means of judging of the circumstances upon which they judge, or whether or not the sentences were prvortioned to the several crimes ; On this subject he could not help dwelling for one moment, because on a recent occasion in the Central Criminsl Court, one of the most upright, humane, and Learned Judges that ever graced the Bench he melt it Mr. Justice Pattison, had been attacked by one of the leading papers of this capital, in a manner which ought to have driren him from the Bench. if the accusations had been well-founded, on account of some difference in the sentence which he had passed upon two criminals. That Learned Judge had the kindness te call on him (Lord Denman) and ex plain why these different sentences were passed ; and he (Lord Denman) would venture to say that no man of common sense or candour could have found the slightest ground for such observations if he had been really acquainted with the circum stances.--(Hear, hear.) He would make no other ple truth should be unveiled, observations on the present occasion. He was much obliged e he ea to s tttrhteasittretaLh e o r t d sh s iem b i i r ps for o r the dsh i ps attention which they had been pleased to give to his statement. His only sh d and the people woul I be of opinion that nothing had been done on the occasion to which so much animadversion had been ap plied at all unworthy of a M em b er o f t h e i r Lord ship's performing his duty fa hi s Queen and count r y.—(L ou d c h eer s.) itltull Houseto or of a Judge Tho Noble and Learned Lord then presented a peti tion from certain individuals, whose names or designa tions he did not giei , Praying that th e ev id ence o f per sons who had cons c'entious scru p les against the ta kin g of oaths should be received in Courts o f Ju st i c e u p on their affirmation. d NORM AN BY w a s happy that Tl iiis ANiaorlreisand Learned F r i en d h a d ta k en th e opportunity of expl aining the circumstances of this case, but. he thought the No ble and Learned Lord might have left it to his high charact er to satisfy their Lordships and the pu blic as to the course hich he had pursued.—( Hear, hear-) But he (the Marquis of Nor manby) wished to say a few words as to the part taken by the Commissioners of Police.—(Hear, e e n ss e e tee eepoe tec ys ought i t of esivset their duty munerationdis or hear.) They had alwh th ,:.• of 'duty by police officers, because it W i g ht hold out im p r oper temp t a tions, or lead to injurious s us p icions in cases in wh ich to - they had to give evidence in Courts of Justice.—( Hear, bear.) He cordially concurred in all that had been said by his Noble and Learned Friend in so ft:reties: to the character of Mr. Jthfce Patti son. In one of the cases ntuded to by the Noble and Learned Lord, Mr. Justice Paulson had netually applied :or and obtained a commutation of the sentence, at the very t'me when those public statements were hale respecting him.—( Hear, hear.) Toe E rl of H ADDINGTON then pre ested a petition from Thttersea in favour of the abolition of toll on the nietropohtan bridges. The Marquis of DO WNIIIRE presented several petitions from places in the North of Ireland against Church patronage in Scotland. Viscount MELBOURNE presented a petition from a place in Lancashire on Church-rates and Eceles;a,ti cal Courts. In reply to a question from the EArl of MOUNT CASHELL. The Marquis of NORMANDY said thet he could not take it upon himself to give a legal opinion as to the I_ , ;r4 interpretation of the Act of Parliament re efing to - vaccination. But he thought that the most natured construction of the Act was that a power to the guardians of the poor to pay for vaccination out of the rates, was cither given or implied. If there were any doubt in the interpretation of the law it could easily be set at rest. The Earl of MOUNTCAS HELL said that there was no power in the Act to esahll the guardians to apply the funds of the unions t, the pur poses of the Act. Ho did not crill upon the Noble Margins for a definite answer,' but he had thouaht it his duty to bring_ the matter before their Lordships, as the question aticcted the whole of Iriltnd. Lord ELLENBOROUGH lied no doubt that the Act would be found sufficient to warrant the board of pilule is in levying a rate for such a purpose. The Turnpike Acts Bill, and the East India Rum Bid, went through Committee, and were ordared to be read a third time ta-morrow. POOR-LAWS (IRELAND). Mr. Hawley, the Assistant Poor-law Commissioner, was nen called in and re-examined. By the Earl of GLENGALL—He is an Assistant Poor-la s Cornmistieeer. He was in Clonmel in Fe hruery, 1839. On the 16th of February, the first day altor his arrival in Clonmel, Mr. Butler came to him, and solicited to be appointed Returning Officer for Lee Union. He wrote to Dublin on that day, recommending Mr. Butler to the Commissioners for that othee. He made application to several persons in Clonmel respecting Mr. Butler. He forgot at the moment who many of them were, but he could mention who recomended Mr. Batter ; it was Mr. Bianconi. He had nos been previously acquainted with Mr.Bianconi He made inquiries relative to Mr. Butler of several ether parties but he could not then remember who they were. He bad not known, but he had heard of the party to which Mr. Bienconi belonged.. He had been instructed by the Commissioners that it would be belt cr in all cases where it could be done, to obtain persons to fill the office of re turning officer who were not intimately connected with clay party. He had made some inquiry in Clonmel re specting the Barony eess-collector, Mr. Fennell, but he did not remember of whores. lie dare say he might have made inquiries on the subject of Mr. Bianconi. He did not doubt but he had heard that Mr. Fennell was a very respectable person, and fit for the office he solicited. He had not however recommended Mr. Fennell, because be thought he had already duties enough to occuu his time. He bad nevertheless appointed three col cams to a similar office in Tipperary. for he thought they were competent persons. He had then less experience than when he refused to ap point Mr. Fennell. The business of a returning officer did not occupy more than two or three days a year, but that business had to be discharged during the Assiz cs, when the Barony-colleztor was otherwise en gaged. He was not aware that a collector had only to attend one day for the purpose of swearing to his account , . Believed he had seen the net: upon Mr. Hancock's letter at the office since these inquiries had been commenced. They had made no direct com munication to Mr. Bagwell, the chief proprii tor of the union, having taken many opportunities of communicating with the whole of the gen tlemen of the county. He had never inquired into the re tgious or political opinions of any one whom he had recommended under the Poor-law Bill in Ireland ; that would have been against his in structions. But had any one stied that Mr. Butler was a partisan, he would have been the last whom he would have recommended. His in quiries led him to understand that Mr. Butter was a respectable roan who had retired from business. He did not think it necessary to make any further in quiries in consequence of Mr. Bagwell's letter, because it contained no specific accusation. To the Earl of WICKLOW—He was quite aware that the situation r of returning officer was one of much responsibility. He having seen Mr. Butler, and formed a knowledge of his abilities,he made numerous inquiries respecting bite, he thought he was peculiarly quelifle f for the office. lie had forgot the names of the parties to whom he applied. He con ceived, from Mr. Bagwell's letter, that he did not wish to mix himself up in this matter. To the Duke of WELLINGTON—He had never heard from any one that Mr. Butler had been a bankrupt. Did not think in the answer which he gave t. Mr. Bagwell, he cast any imputation upon that gentleman. It was the impression upon the mind of witness at the time when he wrote the reply to Mr. Bagwell, the only reason which the latter bad for saying that Mr. Butler was a most unfit person to fill the office of returning officer, was because Butler was a relative to a Roman Catholic Archbishop. To ese E srl of WICKLOW—When witness went down to inquire into the characters of persons reaom mended to fill the office of returning officer, mode in quiries along his route as,to the persons who could best give him information as to the fittest men for the office. Could not at this time say whether or not he took notes of the names. He might or might not, and although he knew he was to be examined upon the subject here to night, he had not taken any measures for refreshing memory. To Lord MELBOURNE—Witness had a very large circuit, through the counties of Limerick, Clare, and Tipperary. He had to inquire respecting a great number of persons and facts, and be had discharged all from his memory, as soon as the unions were finally settled. To the Earl of RADNOR—Wit less made all the iuquiries that he considered necessary, and in the case of Mr. Butler made minute inq uiries as to that eentle tnan's character. Amongst o thers he examined Mr. Butler himself. The Earl of WICKLOW--As to his political cha racter ? Tee Earl of RADNOR—I beg not to be inter• rupted.—(llear, hear.) Did you attend a public meet ing at which Mr. Butler was present ?.—Witness did so ; it was a large meeting, but (es we understood) Mr. Butler took no part in it to mark him as a pol tical pare tisan. To Lord GLENGALL—Wrote the letter to the Commissioners respecting Mr. Butler on the Saturday, although be knew it would not reach Dublin until Monday. Wrote it on that evening as a matter of rou tine, and could not say whether it was before dinner or after dinner. Could not say whether it was before or after six o'clock. It was his practice to write every evening on the business of the clay, without reference to the day of the week. If it was too late for post he wrote the letter notwithstanding, and sent it by eeet post. Witness would say that the persons of whom he in quired respecting Mr. Butler's character were not all of the same politics as that gentleman. Made no inquiry to ascertain whether Mr, Butler was a person of strong political bias or not. Believed that most persons in Clonmel were of some political party or other. Sup posed Mr. Butler to be a Catholic from his being re lated to the Archbishop. Heard of persons called Pacificators in Ireland. The first meeting referred to was held in Clonmel during the sitting of the Special Commi,sion for the trial of certain individuals for mur der. The other meeting was be'el some months after the first. Was not aware that Mr. Fennell had applied for the situation when witness went to Clonmel. The witness was here ordered to withdraw, and Mr. Phelan called in and examined by the Earl of GLEN GALL—Knew Mr. Butler intimately for twenty-seven years in Clonmel. Knew of several individuals being indicted at the Clonmerassizes of the year 1932 for having illegally assembled and by force of arms resisted the payment of tithes—they were sentenced to four months' imprisonment. Knew that certain parties plca.ded guilty to that indictment, but could not say for certain that Joseph Butler, a Mr. Hackett, and a Mr. O'Brien were those that did so. Did not exactly recollect who the persons were that pleaded guilty—thought that Butler was one After no doubt on his mind of his being so. e knowing that Butler pleaded guilty to that charge gave him a letter of introduction. Was not aware •of Butler's goods being sold by the sheriff for a debt of 381., due to Messrs. Wright and Stanley, the hatters of Dublin. The short-hand writer's notes of Mr. Phelan's evi dence were here referred to, and his answer to a ques tion on the subject of the debt to Wright and Stanley corresponded exactly with that given above. Examination resumed—Was not in Clonmel in Oeto her 1838. Did not know of the sheriff having pos session of Mr. Butler's house at that time under it writ of execution issued on account of that debt. Had not the slightest idea of that circumstance.' The Earl of GLENG ALL asked whether, in.the few letters put into the hands of the witness, he could point. out any such want of promptitude and alacrity on the part of Mr. Fennell, as the witness, on a former occasion, attributed to that person? The Earl of Radnor objected ..to the question, and the witness was ordered to withdraw, when, after some discussion, it was resolved, on the motion of the Earl of Glengall, that the letters should be read to the v , iees , at length, by the Gerk at the tal le. bite E.srl of Ci LENGALL tiest tee fiat of the letters was one from the Commissioners .to Mr. Fennell, • x.'i 1 c..4 The Earl of RADNOR asked, was the paper abcut to be read the original letter, or a copy, and by whom was it furnished ? Tne Earl of GLENGA LL replied that the paper in his hand was a copy of the Commissioner's letter and was furnished by Mr. Fennell himself. The Earl of RADNOR objected to its being read under such circumstances. The proper course would he to move for a return of the original document. Ho did not suppose that. Mr. Fennell would forge a document. Bat if the inquiry was to be carried on in this minute way, it would be necessary that it should also he formal and correct. After some further discussion, the Earl of GLEN GALL waived, for the present, this part of the in quiry, and the wit .ess was recalled, and the examina tion renewed. Witness—Had scan the correspondence between the Commissioners and Mr. Fennell, and from that corre spondence formed the opinion that the Board were not satisfied with the conduct of . Mr. Fennell. Believed that Fennell was one of the persons formerly appointed by the agitators of the Corn Exchange as a " Pa!ifi cater." Considered a " pacificator" a political partisan ; bet when he recommended Mr. Butler he had no re collection that the letter had been sent, for he him elf hal never t .ken any part in the proceedings of those persons. Did not. believe that Mr. Butler ever made a composition with his creditors. It was not a compe sition or a proof of the insolvency when a man retiring from business gives bias of long dates to satisfy his creditors , those bills being for the whole amount of twenty shitings in the pound, and not by way of co►n poeition. Hal made inquiry as to the alleged tr'a) between Butler and his brother. There had Lean family disputes between them, which $ were settled by arbitration. Witness bad in quired since his Tart examination from some of the oldest and most respect ‘131.1 inhabitants of Cionmel, who as sured him that there was no truth in the statements re specting Butler's insolvency or bankruptcy, or as to a trial baween him and his brother. Tile statement of witness to the Housa, on another evening, as to But ler's being a freeholder, had been impugned. He ❑ow wished to state that Butler was a 501. freeholder under the Earl of Giengall himself.—(Great laughter ) The witness was then ordered to withdraw. On the motion of the Marquis of NORM ANBY, Mr. Hawley was discharged from further attendance. The House then adjourned to Eleven o'Clock to. morrow. ROUSE OF COMMONS, MA c& 29. The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour. Sir. DE LACY EVANS presented a Petition From the parish of St. James's, Westminster, against ;he Middlesex Sessions all. Mr. EROTHERTON presented a Petition from Merchants and Saipowners of Liverpool against the Liverpool Duties Bill. Mr. BERNAL brought up the Reports of Com mittees on the Eccleshill Enclosure, the Derby Gas, the Ilminster Reads, and Bogden's Nwuratzation Billy. The Wishaw and Coltness Railway Bill,—and Heynes Naturalization Bill were severally read a third time and passel. The Rhynnacy Iron Works Bill, the Scubster Har bour Bill, the Dovenby and Papcastle Inelosure Bill, and the Newry Navigation 13111, were severally read a second time. Mr. GREEN prosented a petition from Lancaster against the present system of Import Duties. Sir ROBERT INGLIS presented a petition from the Chancellor, Master, and Scholars of Oxford Uni versity, complaining of the spiritual destitution cx isting in England and Wale , . Aho a petition from the Archdeacon and clergy of Canterbury, and from places in the counties of Lancaster, Derby, Durham, Berks, and Gloucester to the same effect. The Hon. Baronet gave notice that he should call the attention of the House to the subject after Easter. Mr. T. EGERTON presented a petition from the Taff Vale Railway Company against that part of the Railways Bill wi.ich vests the power of making regula tioni for Railways in the Board of Trade. Mr. BROADLEY presented a similar petition from the Hull and Selby Railway Company. Mr. VERNON SMITH presented a petition from the Mayor and Corporation of Northampton praying for the removal of disabilities upon the election of Jews to civil offices. _ _ Mr. G. PALMER presented a petition from a Poor-law union in Essex, praying for certain alterations in the PoorlAws. Sir C. B. VERE presented a similar petition from a plane in Worcestershire. Mr. E. TENNENT presented petitions from places in the counties of Down and Leitrim, against Cnurch Patronage in Sect!and. Mr. W. FATTEN presented a petition from Lan caster, praying for increased church accommodation. Sir W. FOLLETT presented a pi taloa from medi cal practitioners in Exeter, praying for alteration in the Poor-laws, so tar as they affected the medical profession. Also a petition from clergymen and other tithe owners in the county of Sussex, praying for alteration in the law respecting tithe. Mr. T. DU NCOMBE presented a petition, praying for a Committee of Inquiry into the circumstance of persons connected with schoels of aneterny, beim,: diallers in human bones ; also a petition from the city of Hereford, conillaining of ceit kiss measures adopted by the Poor-law Commissioners, and praying the House to institute an in quiry into the subject of complaint ; also a petit:on from Wandsworth in favour of the people's charter, and another petition to the same effect, from a person lc siding in the Edgeware-road. S:r W. FOLLETT presented a petition from an in dividual, praying to be h: and by Counsel before the House, against the Lurgas Navigation B:11. Sir GEORGE STRLCKL AN D presented a pcti. t;on from an individual in Leeds, complaining of the Post-office system, and praying for a repeal of the Corn-laws, and an increase of the salary of Prince Albert. Mr. LASCELLES presented a petition from Wakefnld against the toleration of idolatrous practices in India. Mr. HUME presented a petition from an indivi dual in Bangor in Carnarvonshire, complaining of the want of a proper system of auditing the accounts in the Poor-law unions. The petitioner stated that he had been informed that the existing evil could not be redressed by the Commissioners, as the power of au diting was entirely vested in the Guardians. He (Mr. Hume) had ascertained that that state ment was a correct one. The Hon. Gentleman also presented a petition from the Universal Rational Raligionists of Arbroath, in Forfarshire, complainin g that their doctrines, which they stated were well cal culated to advance the good of mankind, had been comp'e'ely misrepresented, and praying for an in quiry with regard to them ; also a petition from the Christian Chartist sect, complaining of the imprison. mew. of Mr. Hetherington for an alleged blasphemous puhlicaaion, and praying for his release ; also a petition from the Chartists of the Tower Hamlets, praying for the release of Mr. Robert Peddie ; also a petition from Westminster, praying for the release of Mr. Feargus O'Connor ; and petitions from Walworth, Wands worth, and London, in favour of the liberation of Frost, Williams, and Jones ; also two petitions from Dissenting Congregations at Brentford, praying for the abol t'on of Church-rates, the extinction of Ec clesiastical Courts, and the release of Mr. Baines ; also a petition from a public meeting, and a petition from an individual in Perthshire, praying for Universal Suffrage, annual Parliaments, and no property qudification ; and a petition from three individuals in the county of Done gal, complaining of the provisions relating to apotheca ries in the Medical Reform Bill. Sir R. PEEL presented a petition from the Peer. law Guardians of the Tamworth Union, stating that they for the most part approved of the principles of the Poor-law Bill, and were desirous of carrying them late effect, but they made an exception with regard to the bastardy clauses, the effect of which had been, on a comparison of the three years during which the pre sent lieu was in operation with the three years previously to that period, to double the number of illegitimate children. Mr. ELLIOT presented a petition from Roxburgh, praying for an abolition of Church patronage. Mr. DENISON presented a petition from the Guardians of the Dorking Union, praying that the rates might be paid by the owners and not the occu piers of small tenements. Mr. SHAW presented a petition from Dublin against any further grant to the College of Maynooth. Mr. KEMBLE presented a petition from Surrey against the Poor-law Bill. Mr. GOU LBU RN presented a petition from Queen street, Cheapside, praying that the toll might be taken off Southwark-bridge. Mr. C. LUSHINGTON presented a petition from Ashburton against the Medical Reform Bill. Mr. HOPE presented a petition from a place i n Gloucestershire in favour of Church Extension.. e on Mr. PALMER gave notice th at, in Committee _ clause 3 the Poor-law Bill, he would mov e the omission of issue Sir f rr or . the FR E e l A e l e A t i o N n T o l f E a K r n al g v county of Antrim, in the room of t H e h i t that thhe a es h w_ i r ro i e t n . f. s o b jr o ot u hi l i t o l e O'Neill, now Earl O'Neill. ob'ection to 1 . mr.B.CIO.EPNYNREIGNHTThoDpeEdSthIeGNNoSbIeBLILorLd. opposite (Lord J. Russell) would have noc p} . moving the second reading of the dopy right Designs 8.11, before the other orders of the day. Lord J. RUSSELL had no objection. The Bill was then 'read a second time, and ordered to be committed en Wednesday next NEWFOUNDLAND. Mr. PAKINGTON said he understood the Noble Lord opposite gave notice that he should to-night, on the order of the day being read for going into Com mittee on the Poor-law Bid, move that that Bill take precedence of all :notions on to-morrow n i g ht. He '( Mr. PAin7,teu) entia c ,i i no such met l on on din Oide s of tho Da .) , ,o - 1 t',A;;etore l.: would al what was the course of proceeding which the Noble Lord proposed to adopt ? lie would remind the Noble Lord that he (Mr. Pakington) had given notice of a motion for the appointment of a Se!cet :Aflemmittee, to inquire into the state of the Colony of Newfoundland on to-morrow ; be would, therefore, feel obliged by the Noble Lord's stating the course he intended to pursue in this matter. Lord J: RUSSELL said that he had given notice of a motion, that the Poor-lter Bill should take precedtnce of the notices of motion for to-morrow. It seemed to him a Bill of such importance—one of which the House had already discussed so many provisions—as also its general principle, that it was desirable they sk ould go on with it in Committee for as many succes sve days as possible. With regard to the motion of the Hon. G ntleman, if he meant to discuss it, it would certainly put tom (Lord J. Russcli) in a difficult situation with respect to the motion itself, independently of the Poor-law. He (Lord J. Russell) bad not yet received sufficient information on the subject from the Governor of the Colony of Newfoundland, and therefore any state ment that he might moke on to-morrow would be ne cessarily imperfectit would, in fact, be impossible for him to state at present, as well as be could do in three or four weeks hence, the course which the Go vernment intended to pursue. He trusted the Hon. Gentleman would not seek to embarrass the Govern ment by pressing the consideration of his motion. Mr. PA KI N GTO N repeated that he had no wish to embarrass the Government, but, if the Noble Lord should press his oration, he should divide the House on the subject.—(leer, hear.) Lord STANLEY said the course the Noble Lord proposed to take was one that bore very hardly upon individual members.—(Hear, bear.) He was quite aware the Noble Lord said last week that he wished to press on this Bill, but on all former occa sions ample notice had been given of the intention to take precedence. If the question was decided in this manna persons who brought forward these motions would be placed in an unfavourable or rather in an unfair position.—(Hear, hear.) The Noble Lord had not placed on the votes of the House any notice upon this subject. Te Noble Lord had stated he wished to go into Committee of Inquiry, and if so he asked the Noble Lord, whether he thought, when an Hot. Member brought foiw ird a motion tor an inquiry into the whole state of the colonies of the British Empire, it should be set aside without a single ward ofiseplanatim ? He (Lord Stanley) did not think it right to the House or to the country, or that there was any reason to justify such a course. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said he had no objection to the appointment of a Committee, or to go into the whole question when the matter was ripe for discussion. But he thought it would be most inconvenient and uncair to the parties concerned for the Hen. Gentleman to bring forward a motion on that subject at a time when his st,itements could not be met. In answer to a question by an HON. MEMBER. Mr: HAWES stated that he did not intend to bring forward his Medical Reform Bill, No. 2, until after Easter. Sir G. CLERK objected to the course proposed by the Government with respect to the order of proceed ing for to-morrow. It was a most unusual proceeding. When it was first moved that even i n Mondays and Fridays the Government business should take the pre cedence of all other business, it was strongly objected o, as an infringement of the undoubted privilege of the House. Lord J. RUSSELL believed the course which he had proposed was one which had been already pursued on special occasions with regard to important Bills be fore the House. He remembered that on one occasion the Hon. Member for Montgomery, wishing to move that the Orders of the Day should take precedence of motions, .strongly advocated that view of the case. li,en the Hon. Gentleman opposite had not said that it was not proper in any case to tike the course which had been proposed. Mr. JOHN O'CONNELL complained that the Hon. Geetleinan proposed to introduce his motion in the absence of sufficient information. He thought the Hon. Gentleman should adjourn it till he could obtain a - full Howe and the subject be fairly discussed. Sir R. PEEL thought the question, whether or no his Hon. Friend should proceed with his motion by a speech upon tie siate of Newfoundland, was quite dis tinct from that whether the House sl,ould supersede his notice by foregoing the order. It was, to say the least, a dangerous precedent, and should only be resorted to in cases of strong necessity. A Government with a majority might at any time take that means of getting rid of inconvenient motions ; and the greater the majority, the more dangerous would be such a precedent. The Noble Lord had better try and obtain the concurrence of Honourable Members whose names stood on the motion paper ; then there could not be any doubt upon the matte-, but Le did not think the House would be contented to esta blish a precedent so dangerous. With respect to We luesday did the Noble Lord mean to super sede ell the Orders that stood before the Poor-law Amendins nt Bill ? Lord JOHN RUSSELL.—No. Sir ROBERT PEEL—So then an Honourable Member who had charge of a Legidetive. Enactment was to have his day, but the Member who might have a motion of the utmost importance was to be stopped isy an order of the House agreed to on a Monday, and without notice. That was a motion that would establish a most dangerous principle—one that would be more dangerous the stronger a Government was, and he trusted his Hon. Friend would resist it by bringing on his motion at five o'clock, and pressing it. Tee Order of the Day for going into Committee on the Poor-law Amendment Bill was then read. On the question that the Speaker do lease the Chair, POOR-LAW AMENDMENT BILL. Mr. JOHN FIELDEN rose to move that it be an instruction to the Commttee to intro duce a clause repealing the Poor-law Amendment Act. (The Honourable Gentleman spoke' in so low a tone of voice, that although he addressed the House from the opposition bench near the table, it was impossible to hear a single sentence of what he uttered, and at times the noise occasioned by Members con versing together was so great as to drown his voice altogether.) The Hon. Member was under stood to condemn the Poor-law Act as imposing burdens upon the,country, in addition to those occa sioned by the Corn-laws and the bad state of the cur rency. He also contended that the House ought not to delegate the power of making laws to any junta at Somerset House, and that the Poonlaws, in order to become effectual, ought to harmonise with the feel ings of the people, which the present laws did not. The subject was one to which the House ought (ae we understood) to pay more respect than it then seemed is ilng to do.— (The noise in the House was so great at this time as to render the Hon. Mem ber quite inaudible in the gallery). The Hon. Gentle man here proceeded to read extracts from " Cobbett's Legacy to Labourers," to show the relative proportions of the Poor-rates and Government taxes at different periods. In the year 1776 the Poor-rates amounted to os.e million nineteen thousand and ninety-six pounds, the Government taxes to three millions. (The other extracts we were unable to catch.)—(Hear, hear.) The House ought to be careful how they tampered with the fe:lings of the English people. The people of England were the best people on the face of the globe —the most honest and the most industrious and he knew of no one in society more deserving of sympathy than the honest able-bodied English labourer. Yet if he could not obtain labour, and asked for relief he was seat to a prison. Was not that enough to make men violate the law ? Was it not enough to drive men to steal, when they saw their wives and little children perishing with hunger. If this inhu man law was continued Chartism would apread. If the House wished to suppress Chartism they must repeal the Poor-law Act. If they did not re peal the Poor-law Act the people em. Oise argu would yet one clay be too strong for supporters of England ment which had been urged by atrocious law for its continuance was. reduced. If a ere really the thatun der oi its s this a ministration the rates had been fea t the people had not had only augmented had de ri v been a n any b reductionsenefit from Ti?i•tef, Ccirn-laws were continued ; the rents of landlords. taxation. was still continued, and a high rate such treatment must come . into a prison they poo d lie repeated , as .he had before rlrcaeowu. notivd adcoear vgdisgrace labour t o the or h e n w a a t g i o e n s ) 01 i e rl e t yd w i e l w lc e n roe thewtoa want. f stated, that . such boyu the e t to neglectdo s o tbe repealed. Petitions had year after y year the.law mgt be against it. The great Chartist pe year been pree.entteit Would they V tition wag "gl s . Isten to the prayers of did Tne,English tie upon is theynot, the English people would, .with Sow which w Pc ol P ld i°. n w ever petition the Hous e ' again . The their petitims lel been treated that nurnte-sof gi gusted e t o bad ;s e Icepeepaila, becomean d e themde clared Hen. Memlaer concluded by movinte th • • t un at It be an ins . r tion to the Committee to int dro uce a clause to repeat tilt Poor-law- AMendment Act. they General JOHNSON secon d ed the mot i on; lie had cc wish to recur to the old law b ut he di-a °leder( the uncoil stitutionalpower with which the C "Letter were invest. =MUSS, ed. They had usedcoercion instead ti He ob of Cenetal on. jvet'...d to makin g poverty a critic, -which was the cas: under the pre ent law. He thought the tastardy clauses were provisions for seduction, - an d those clauses at all events oug h t to h e repea l e d. With T espect to the power,. Vim to the Poor-law Commissioners, he thought it wat impossible that the Commissioners could issue an . order to meet all CM?. Ina manufacturing distrint, i f a „ t ip stopped, 500 people might be t h broo w w n er u e pe: a n b t s h is e ti parish, fo: it was impOssible that thosothw g in f or the Zay ofnagd upon mire pittance could save anyhvoersity. e i given to parties There ought to be polwcircumstences, to afford we" acquainted death the loca such re. bt proper. But objecting to the Poor- Lef as they tboug he s ho uld law Act as be :did altogether, support the motion of bit Hers. Friend. Ihe:spEAKER then put the question, and stranger were • e dietely ordered to withdraw. ' imea The House divided, when there appea . red— Forthe motion Against it :Majority cgainst the motion —l46 On our return to the Gallery we found Mr. WAKLEY referring to the medical clauses of tho -- ST. 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