The Sun. — London, England, 1841-10-04 00:00:00

EVENING SUN ' SECOND EDITIOI\ SUN OFFICE, Seven o' Clock. SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS FROM THE EVENING PAPERS OF THU. DAY. GLOBE.—The Westminster Review says that the policy of the Liberal party is" simply to subniit with as good a grace as possible to what cannot be helped, and to employ a season of comparative repose in preparation for the time of action. It would be useless and mis chievous to attempt to strive against the stream. The feeling is, let by-gorses be by-gones." Sir Robert Peel,' it is said, should have fair play ; give him time to consider his measures ; and no matter whether the re quest be reasonable or not, from our knowledge of the men and their principles—time must be given. Re formers may and ought to avail themselves of every opportunity that presents itself for calling attention to the state of the country, and the measures necessary for its relief ; every means should be taken to strengthen the impression made on the public mind in favour of com mercial freedom ; hut the present is not the time foe attack, and all attempts to harass or impede the operations of the new Government, will only weaker the party making them, and cause them to be con demned by the public as impracticable theorists." " Impracticable theorists," indeed, they mutt be, who could think of harassing or impeding the actual " opera• tions of the new Government." But we hope we shall not pass for " impracticable theorists," when we say that it appears to us that very just subjects for attack have already been given by the Teal or affected ignorance which has been displayed by the most prominent mem bers of the present Administration, either of any bad effects at all, or at least of the worst effjcts (if the Corn laws. If those effects have really escaped them, it is time they were better instructed. If they have not escaped them, it affords no hopeful presage of their in tentions that they choose to show not the slightest con sciousness of their existence. In either case it must be proper to forewarn the public that here are state-doctors, who have regularly been called in, and touched the mach-insisted-on honorarium, yet who overlook the most marked symptoms of thilitatient's disease, while they assert complacently the absence of other symptoms, far less decisive of its character than those they pass, igno rantly or wilfully, sub silentio. COURIER.—The speech of John Quincy Adams in the American Congress on the subject of the impri sonment of M‘Leod, and the arrogation of the rights of a separate sovereignty by New York, dis tinct from and independent of that of the Union quoad foreign states, was worthy of that distinguished publicist and statesman. The arrogant pretensions about States' rights, and Judge Cowan's distorted and intemperate interpretation of the law of nations, he tore into shreds and tatters. Nor was his com mendation of the pacific policy and enlightened views of Mr. Daniel Webster, the American Foreign Secre tary, less earnestly and disinterestedy delivered. These strong expressions of feeling and opinion may be ac cepted, we trust, as of good omen for the ultimate escape of the unfortunate M'Leod from the disgraceful issue to which he was so insolently consigned by the New York people. In justice to Mr. Fox, our Minister at Wash ington, it is but fair to rescue him from any implication in that disgraceful apathy by which the diplomacy of the late 'Foreign Secretary here has been so strikingly cha racterised in the course of the negotiations undertaken or suspended relative to this untoward affair. The pub lished despatches of Mr. Fox suffice fel'y to exonerate him from any, the least, share in that connivance or acquiescence, craven as culpable, in the insulting as sertion of irresponsible authority, by the self-styled " empire State" of New York, to which the manacled M'Leod owes his irons and twelve months' incatceration. The remonstrances of Mr. Fox, whilst left free to act of his own volition, against tho atrocious acts of the New York authorities, were couched in the mauly, energetic language, well becoming the representative of the greatest of States and of Sovereigns, nad notpess beseeming in a functionary boasting the honoured name and of the linewse of one of the most celebrated of British orators and states men. STANDARD.—AII the higher officers of the Irish Administration—all, in fact, whose opinions and temper can be supposed to influence the tendency of the Govern ment, have been changed, with the approbation of all par ties. This is an auspicious beginning; and is the'good effect of such a beginning to be sacrificed by a jealous' search for opportunities for displacing subordinates who can exercise no power ? Would not such a jealous search, in fact, prove that a delusion had been at tempted by the higher appointnients, and that sub stantially a system of retaliation is meditated ? As opportunities shall naturally arise, we are sure that Protestantism will not, as fur the last ten years and more, constitute a bar to the favour of the Crown where merit and qualifications can be pleaded ; and equally sure we are that opportunities for recog nising the claims of Roman Catholics will be anxiously looked for. Meanwhile the interests of all good men are best consulted by making as little change as possible. The present effect may be to disappoint some, but the Protestants of Ireland are not disappointed, as the electors of Sligo have said for them ; and with the dis appointed few, we confess, that we hare little .sym pathy. We have it from the most sacred authority, that "no man can serve two masters, but that he will hate the ene [whatever he may pretend], and serve the other ;" the truth is no where more manifest than in politics. No man can serve public principles and his own interests at the same time.. A man may take an office with consistency and honour, but we question much the purity of intention of one who expects a place, and still more of one who labours by political activity to earn a place. The only politicians entitled to respect or confidence are they who fling behind them all considera tions of personal interest when they enter the arena. ATTEMPT AT MURDER. The town of St. Alban's was this morning the scene of another of those frightful crimes, which have of late followed each other in quick succession. A sol dier, named Jabez Kirk, belonging to the 34th regi ment, a party of which has been stationed in the town on the recruiting service for several months, had passed the night with a girl named Pearce, at the Boot public-house. Between six and seven the people in the house were alarmed by screams proceeding from the room in which the soldier and the girl were ; and, on proceeding to it, for the purpose of ascertainin g the cause, discovered the young_woman lying on the bed, covered with wounds, and bleeding copiously from the throat. Medical attendance was immediately procured, and the police sent for, by whqm the soldier was removed in custody, and lodged in the station-house. On the sur geon proceeding to examine the victim of his brutal violence, he discovered that the windpipe was severed, and that the smaller vessels were also lacerated, but that the main artery, by a slight diversion of the razor with which the deed was committed. had escaped, and thus immediate death was prevented. Part of the right ear was cut off, and the hands of the poor creature, which she had raised to ward off the attack of her intended murderer, were covered with gashes. Such is the state of exhaustion in which the poor creature lies, that not the slight 7st hope is entertained of her rallying. One of the borough Magistrates attended to take her deposi tion, but she could only answer by signs to the few questions which were put to her. The perpetrator of the horrid deed at once admitted to the police that he had inflicted the wounds on the girl, and that he intended to murder her ; and in the rock -up conducted himself with heartless disregard o: the consequences likely to result both to himself and his victim. The girl's parents reside in the town, and tha soldier i s , we un d erstand, from the neighbourhood of o entry or Warwick, where he has a wife and family. The examination of the prisoner will take place at twelve o'clock, but merely for the purpose of taking suf ficient eviclences on which to remand him, until the fate of the girl is known. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. (THIS DAY.) HOUSE OF COMMONS. There havinm been but t wenty - four Members present at Four o'clock°, the House adjourned till to-morrow. HOUSE OF LORDS. --- Thu LORD CHANCELLOR. took his seat ou the Wool sack at Five o'Clock. Earl of MINTO said he was anxious to say a few words in reference to a motion which had recently b een made in the House of Com mons. and which he thought Etn a be injurious to the charact er o f the late Government as regarded the administration of naval affairs. Th e mo tion in question was for a return of the promotion s beenthe late Beard of Admirals . which had made agreed ito—first, became it could jot It was not resu lt ; and secondly, because the lead to any benefic ial _ was already before the public— information required understood the Noble Lord) was but the object (as -which he bad made against the Complaints had been to re-asaert the cha w rg e ts Lords of the made of the large Admiralty. number of promotions which before the had taken place shortly Naval promotion resigna tion of the late Government. was of three kinds. There was first,thdeeitot, an offie ordinary case, in whi c h, on a vacanc y occurrin o n . Was promot e d to fill the vacant rank. by The second kind of promotion was that which occurred underflag t -o x ff iu c n er t s e . There was a thi r d ki n d o f promotion by special of the B oa rd, in consideration of circumstance n iwhi . in th e j u d gment of the Board, requ i re d su ch a expres sion of their approbation. Now, with respect to the first kind of promotion, to which he had referred, be was n o t at a ll respons ibl e f or t h e , amount , although he was so for the distribution. With respect to the second he was neither rear onsible for the amount nor for the distribution. With revect to the third kind, he acknowledged hiinaeif responsible both fbr the amount and for the distribution. It was perfectly true that there had been of late an unusual amount of promotion.._. Cries of " Hear.") He was sure that their Lordships would not wish him to enter into the details of each particular case. He thought that would be to establish a had precedent. He would only say, as regards that portion of the promotion, for the amount of which he was not responsible, that he was sure it was justified by the conduct and character of those officers on whom it was conferred. With regard to the person s who were promoted from mates to lieutenants, he would say without going through their names, that twenty-five persons were ad vanced to the rank of lieutenants, who had been in the service from seventeen to nine years. He was anxious to state this to show that there was NE ano dispb#o4n on the Part of the Admiralty to promote-young men, to the exclusion of the old, who had Served fox many years. With r?gard to special *motions, 1 may be thought necessary that he : *motions, mot.e into detail. There were four T i m" b eerfs - p6motcd from the rank of captains to s t. s SUNDERLAND. On Wedn6day 2norniiig a requisition was presented to R. White, Esq.,-the Mayor of Sundexlland, requesting him to call a public meeting of the inhabitants of this bor...ugh, for the purpose of considering the propriety of niemorialisin , r the Queen. The requisition was signed. by upwards of one hundred persons, many of them con nocted with the principal mercantile and manufacturing firms in the borough, ship-owners, and tradesmen, and also gentlemen of all political parties. His Worship, the 1! . .r.y0r, has appointed the meeting to be held in the Athen2enza this day. KENTISH-TOWN. . _ A public meeting of the inhabitants of Kentish-toyn was held o:i Thursday evening at the Assembly-n;(sm, to take into, consideration the propriety of memorialising her Majesty not to prorogue Parliament until the Corn laws be fully .investigated, with the view to the adoptio t irl of such rer aecnil measures as - shall ameliorate the condi tion of the sail ring poor. The large room was crowded NOON, INIONDAY, OCTOBER 4, lB4l . chat of commanders, who had been empl o y e d on spe dal service. The first of these was Commander Crosier, .(ho had the command of two ships in the expedition of ,2aptain Ross. And their Lordships would recol ect• the great and important success of his first ..oyage of discovery. His services had been duly ,ppreciated at the Admiralty. Captain Ross stated to was indebted to the officers and crews of his cessels.for. the success of that expedition, and he made t a request that his only reward would be the promotim. ..)f Capt. Crosier, who commanded the Terror, and som( of his other companions in that expedition. The next was a person in whom he (Lord Minto) could not say that he did not f4l a deep interest—the Hon. Cherie., i.:lliot, the commander of the Hazard—but he could say ;hat his promotion was not th e consequence o f hi s b e i ng t the head of the Admiralty, but that he had been warmly and strongly recommended for promotion. The next who was promoted was Commander Granville, And the fourth was Commander John Parker, both of whom had been strongly recommended for pro motion in consequence of their services and ability. He next came to the cases of those officers who had been promoted from the rank of Lieutenant to that of Commander. These cases were nine in number. The first ease was that of Commander Scott, an officer who had beet; Anployed on two different occasions in the Turkish Meet, who had been particularly recommended by he Turkish Government to her Majesty for sonic mark of her approbation. Now, it was certainly not according to precedent to promote officers in con sequence of the recommendation • of Foreign overnments, and he (Earl Minto) had felt great doubt:. As to the expediency of complying with the recommenda tion, but when he considered the services which that ..fficer had rendered on the coast of Syria, and that the services rendered to the Turkish Goverment were rendered to a Government with which England was in close alliance, he certainly had thought it expedient and right to promote that officer. He would only state, it, addition; that Commander Scott was of a family strongly opposed to him (Earl M.) both in general and local politic 3. The next cases were those of Lieutenant Edward Stop ford and Lieutenant Lloyd who were in the Syrian Campaign, the next was Lieutenant Cloake, and the next Mr. Sherningham. There was also Lieutenant Fan shawe who was nerly connecteduwith Sir Robert Stop ford, and considering the great services of that officer, he thought he was justified in the promotions he had maie. 'The last officer on the list was Lieutenant Lowe, tir ho was nearly related to Sir Thomas Hastings. Before he (the Earl of Minto) left the Board, he placed on record a minute of the valuable services of Sir Thomas Hastings, in perfecting the system of gunnery in the navy. On his (Sir Thomas nesting's) recommendation he (the Earl of Minto) promoted Mr. Moorman from the office of Senior Gunnery Mate to the rank of Lieutenant. The concluding observations of the Noble Earl were made in so low a tone of voice as to be quite inaudible in the gallery. On the motion that the, Exchequer Bills Funding Bill be read a second time, Viscount MELBOURNE said he did not rise for the purpose of making any objection to the Bill, or to the manner in which it was intended to carry its provisions into effect, but it appeared to him that the Government having come to the determination that they would not take into consideraties the financial state of the country, that they should not take into consideration its commercial diffi culties, that they should not adopt those measures which were proposed for that purpose by the late Government, or produce any similar measures of their own. As soon as that determination was know it was impossible but that some such course as the present should have been adopted. Knowing that there was a deficit in the revenue, and knowing that there was no time to consider the question of taxation, .the only course that could be adopted under the cir cumstances was the present, and he did not know that any particular objection could be taken to the form in which it was done. The only objection was that it had failed—that this had not succeeded— that they had not raised their money—that they had not funded their Exchequer Bills.—(Hear, hear). He was certainly the last man who would say anything likely to produce any effect upon the Money Market, and he was very unlikely to say anything that would be calculated to produce that effect. Considering the language which the Government had held with regard to the finances of the country` and the state of the money market, lie thought they should have taken care not to have failed. They should have taken care to have succeeded, and even if they had made some worse bargain or made worse terms than the late Government—and he rather feared they were actuated by some such motives—(Hear, and a laugh)— they should have endeavoured . to carry their point, and it appeared to him that they were actuated by very short sighted and injudicious motives. At the same time, he was not in the least degree objecting to the measure, but he wished to call the attention of their Lordships to what might be considered the manifesto or basis of the motion which had led to the change in the Government. That was characterised by his Noble Friend as a very able and eloquent speech. He (Viscount Melbourne) admitted that it was a very able and eloquent one, but even admitting the whole of that to be true, it was utterly insufficient to maintain the super structure of the vote that was founded upon it. He did not deny its eloquence, but there was many able and eloquent speeches which had been 'productive of great inconvenience afterwards. It was said that the late Goternment had never go verned the country in a fair, manly, or straight forward manner—they were denounced for tam pering with the finances of the country ; but he would ask whether those who made such charges against them had a right to come forward with a mea sure of so completely temporary a nature—nay, with a measure to objectionable that even the Chancellor of the Exchequer admitted that the measure was a mere temporary one, and ought not to form a precedent? He (Vi: eiunt Melbourne) did not object to the measure, only he thought it was inconsistent with the arguments used on the "No Confidence" motion. If they were determined on the course they had pur sued, then they were fiot justified in that motion. They might have had the vote of No confidence without any argument—(Laughter)--they were sure of the vote, but they had no right to call the attention of the Par . liament and the country to the deficit. In the late Go vernment it was quite consistent because they were pre pared to propose measures for curing that state of things, but it was not fair of the present Government, considering the arguments used by them against the measures of the late Government. On various occasions within the last two years they had heard much in both Houses of Parliament of the necessity of relieving the finances of the country from the immense difficulties in which they were involved. That language had been repeated lately in the other House of Parliament by those who now filled the hghest situations and possessed the highest authority in this country. He (Lord Melbourne denied it. He said it was not correct, that it was not fair to the finances of the country to say so. He (Lord Melbourne) said the finances of the country were not in immense difficulties.—(Hear, hear.) He said it was an overstatement of an exag geration. He perfectly admitted that the ex penses of the country in some years exceeded the income—that the financial situation of the country de manded serious consideration, to be looked at seriously, and to be energetically met, but he said they were not involved in immense difficulties, and looking at the ge neral state of the country, the amount of its revenue, its resources and its strengh, he could not conceive any course more unjust or impolitic than to hold de sponding language on the subject, which must necessarily have the effect of weakening those resources and diminishing that strength.—(Hear.) He perfectly admitted there was a difficulty, but he begged leave utterly. distinctly, shortly, emphatically— in words which, being short, would be more easily understood— to deny that they (the late Government) had delivered over the country, or either the revenue, or any other in terest, in a dangerous or embarrassed state to those who had succeeded them.—(Hear, hear.) The Neble Lord said that some decided, vigorous, efficient, and certain system was necessary, and then he came down with this scheme, which had unquestionably all the defects which he had attributed to their's (the late Government's), and which particularly had this additional defect, that it added to the funded debt of the country, with out making provision for the interest, which he (Lord M.) remembered, was not the objection urged by the Noble Duke (the Duke of Wellington) to their funding Exchequer Bills in 1838 or 1839, he forgot which.—(Hear, hear, hear.) The Noble Duke then said that the measure was right, but that they should have made provision for the interest. Yet now he was a party to a proceeding which was unquestionably liable to the same objection. He (Lord Melbourne) did not know that the measure taken by the Government was wrong, but they had no business to adopt it after the language they had held, and after the address they had carried up to the foot of the Throne.—(llear, hear. What were they uniting for ? If the finances of the coun try were involved in immense difficulty—if there was this difficulty, this urgent necessity surely they ought to take them into their immediate consideration.—(Cheers.) What had they got to con sider ? There was no mystery in it, no dif ficulty, but to decide on one thing or the other. the expenditure exceeded the income, and they must either raise the income or diminish the expenditure. He was afraid they would not be able to do the latter in Vie present state of the country. He thought it likely that extraordinary expenditure would be necessary. He trusted. Oat it would not be. But the Noble Lcrd opposite said he was convinced that occasions for increased ,expenditure would arise. What thea did he propose to do ? Ae asked for time. What ! was lie looking for the philo sopirer's stone?—(Haar.) Was he seeking to discover the tranemutasion of metal ?—(Renewed laughter.) If so, it was perfectly reasonable to ask for time, and he was ri ady to give tirr.e.—(A laugh.) But as that was not the case, he thought there was no reason for taking so long a time to consider measures so urgently required. The Noble Luke opposite thought the lateness of the session and the improbability of procuring an adequate attendance were sufficient reasons for the postponement ; but h e (Lord Melbourne) did not think nk , t k. h s ose rur con tb si e dcrations ought to have any lt attend ance, if the Noble Duke would give notice r that he intended to bring in a law relatin g to would be the impor tationuu of corn, he might rely on it there l la au cl g i. b o . f ) attendance in bothin Melbourne) Houses was onfot a r i greats a m e n a t . ( A s afraid theo rist in finance as others, nor was he so much been he others of the consequences of this measure. but a held thought that, after the language which had which _ih e _ were not entitled to propose.—(" Hear, n b) its present Ministers, and the important votes they had p r ocured, it was such a measure as they ear, e from the Op position.) The Earl of RIPON was always amused when his Noble Friend (Lord Melbourne) chose to be jocular ; and he was not the less so when his jocularity was di- THE SUN, l, : - reeted against him (Lord R.). He would not go into a nstification of a speech he had made on a firmer evenigg, and to which his Noble Friend (Lord Melbourne) made no reply at the time.—(Ministerial cheers.) But his Noble Friend seemed to be in gicat doubt whether he disapproved of the measure or not. "Ile hints a doubt, and hesiates dislike."—(A laugh.) Lord MELBOURNE—•I did not say I disappr oo f the measure at all.—(A laugh.) The Earl of RIPON—But there was ono thing to which his Noble Friend did object, and in very strong language too. He objected that the measure had been a failure. Now he (Lord Ripon) must say on the other hand that it was no failure. His Right lion. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer had not raised all the money which was at first intended, but he had raised (as we understood), nearly a million more than was required to cover the deficit. Well, then, he said that they were not justified in having recourse to this, which, of course, no being could deny was a temporary expedient, on account of the amend ment which they introduced into the Address. What was it, he wished to know, that called the attention of the douse to the subject? Not their amendment, but the speech (rum the Throne. The Government were bound to be prepared with measures, having had the whole year to propose them. But was an individual Member of the House to be precluded from moving an amend ment unless he was prepared to strike off at -once the whole system of financial policy ? The idea was absurd, and no one knew that it was so better than uis Noble Friend himself.—(Hear, hear.) They were ant liable, therefore, to his Noble Friend's reproach, :f they had undertaken— coming into office at the very beginning of September—if they had undertaken to propound then a whole scheme of finance, and a revision from beginning to end of the whole commercial system of the country, the nation would have considered them as fools and madman. It was very easy for persons who were not practically acquainted with such matters to make such a mistake ; but nobody knew better. than his Noble Friend that you could not touch one part of the financial system, or one great commercial inte rest, without indirectly and most seriously af fecting all the rest ; that you must not take an isolated part of the scheme, but that you must take a full, collective, and common sense view of the whole. His Noble Friend knew that the science of Govern ment, whether legislative or executive was, in tact, neither more nor less than a perpetual struggle with difficulties. They might get over them, they might evade them, but they were perpetually called to meet them; and there was no surer way of being overwhelmed by them, than to rush with breathless haste into the adoption of great and extensive schemes without mature consideration. That was, in his mind, a sufficient justification of the course they had taken, and to have proposed any other just then would have been neither more nor less than perfect madnts3. And when his Nole!e Friend talked of their having resorted to a loan, he thought that that was no part of the late Government. Why, he knew perfectly well that if his own scheme had been carried into effect, he could' not have the deficiencies of the year without a . loan the whole amount which he proposed-to raise, the defi ciency being 2,400,000, by the doubtful scheme of an alteration of the taxes, was 1,700,00 e/. He must have had a loan to the same amount. He (the Earl of Ripon) defel his Noble Friend or any man of business, to show that if that scheme had been carried into effect, it would have been possible between this and the beginning of Apail 1842, to have made up the deficiency without resorting to a loan. He should observe' that he had been much surprised at the speech of his' - Noble Friend. To borrow an expression from his Noble Friend, it came upon him " like a clap of thunder." He should repeat in conclusion that if they had purSued the course which his Noble Friend seemed to think they were bound to pursue, they would have abandoned 'their duty— they would have deceived the people, and that was the very last thing or which a Government should be guilty. The Duke of WELLINGTON ruse, and was (LEFT SPEAKING.) FRENCH COMMERCE. The following is extracted from a report of M. War temberg to the Bordeaux Chamber of Commerce : " Our maritime commerce has not been treated by Spain as it ought to have been, according to the old con ventions between -the countries. France has always re spected the existing stipulations as to the right of tonnage. Spain has only done so in appearance. A number of local rights have destroyed this equality, and it is in dispensable to remedy this false position, which the new tariff might tend to aggravate. A protestation ought to *e made against the kind of exclusion effected by this tariff to the navigation of our coast of the Me.diter ranean and part of the ocean ; the result of such a measure would be to .transfer the whole commerce of Spain from France to other nations. Finally, the surtaxes established upon merchandise imported into the Spanish colonies by French ships are too high, and ought to be the object of the negotiations of our Go vernment. It is urgent that our sugar duties should •be modified ; for, on account of our high surtax upon foreign sugar, the Spanish flag is gradually taking the place of ours for the im portation of our produce to Cuba and Porto Rico. The change of the Spanish customs line from the Ebro to the P yrenees, is also detrimental to the sale of French colonial produce. Until now the provinces of the north of Spain received ourproduce freely, and made use of it, not only for their consumption, but also for their exchanges with the rest of the Peninsula. These relations with the Basque Pro vinces were a great source of freight to those vessels re turning from Columbia, St. Thomas, Guayaquil, Ha vannah, L-c. Now the line of Spanish custom-houses which separated the provinces of the north from the rest of the kingdom has been brought to our frontier, and separates us from our old markets. We know it is not our part to interfere in the internal regulation of other coun tries. The Spanish Government can, of course, place its line of Custom-house as it chooses ; but we can obtain compensation for the harm done to us by these measures. The mission of the French Government is to demand them, and we have sought to show the bases upon which these compensations might be established. " Finally, with respect to tissues, we have remarked that the maximum measures of breadth adopted by the project of the Spanish tariff, to serve as a basis for the duty upon cloth and kerseymere, are ab solutely the same as those of the English stuffs. These stuffs being narrower than ours, the result will be that, in order not to pay heavy duties, our manufacturers will be obliged to manufacture special stuffs for Spain, a source of inconvenience; first, because at a given moment, cloth and kerseymere, such as the Spa nish 'tariff demands, might fail, and thus force our manufacturers to renounce important affairs, which would not take place if cloths, made ac cording to the French size were admitted at the ordinary duties ; also, because, if the French manufac turers fabricate,. beyond the wants of Spanish consump tion, stuffs of the breadth demanded by the tariff, they can sell them with great difficulty in France, where these breadths are not in use. As to linen we have remarked the exaggeration which the proposed tariff gives to the value of this article, which, in several cases, renders the duty ad valorem com pletely illusory. Finally, we demand, as a means of ex change, with Spain, that the Frencif import duty be dimi nished, in a great measure, upon the produce of that country, namely, upon oil, wool, wine, liquors, iron, &c. The Duke of Wellington and Sir J. Graham had a long interview with Sir Robert Peel this morning, at the Right Ho.l. Baronet's residence in Whitehall gardens. Despatches were forwarded from the Home-office on Saturday evening for her Map3ty at Windsor Castle THE CORN LAWS AND COMMERCIAL REFORM. DEVONPORT.-STATE OF THE COUNTRY THURSDAY, SEPT. 29.—A public meeting was held last evening at the Town-hall, pursuant to a requisition signed by several members of the Town Council, for the purpose of taking into consideration " the propriety of addressing her Majesty and both Houses of Parliament on the subject of the Corn-laws, and on the important duties in general." The hall was crowded. E. Abbott, Esq., the Mayor, presided. G. LEACH, Esq., moved the address to her Majesty. He read ai extract from the speech of the Duke of Buckingham, at the Buckingham agriCultural meet ing, and alluded to the declaration of the Duke of Rich mond in the House of Lords, that if Sir R. Peel pre sumed to meddle with the Corn-laws, they, the landad aristocracy, would turn him out, as they had turned out Lo - .A. Melbourne. He would maintain that a more arrogant speech than this—a more insulting threat, both to the Throne and the people— had never been uttered in either House of Parliament. It amounted to a declaration that the Queen's Minister, be he who he might, should not hold the reins of Govern ment but so long as he was their tool and their slave.— (Cheers.) Ho adduced the speeches of Lord Stanley and Sir James Graham, as further grounds for with holding confidence from the Government of Sir R. Peel. C. TREPE, Esq., seconded the address, which was sup ported by several other gentlemen. The speakers were interrupted, and the business of the meeting several times suspended, by the violence of a body of Tory partizans at the lower end of the hall. They moved, as an aniendaient, that the address be considered that day six months, which, on the show of hands, was negatived by a very large majority. The ad. dress, when signed, is to be forwarded to the Duke of Sussex for presentation. The prevailing feeling of the . meeting was one of strong dissatisfaction with the policy of the Ministry, and distrust cf its members, a feeling - that is daily increasing among all classes in this borough. to suffocation. John Moor, Esq., was caikd to the Chair Mr. SomEfts moved the first resolution, to'the effect that the depression of trade, and consequent suffering which prevails throughout the country, through the ope ration of the laws which lay a tax upon food, are exten sive and increasing.- The resolution was not difficult to prove. It included two points agreed to by allnamely, that there, was misery in the, country, and that it was both extensive and increasing. —(Hear, hear.) Even in their neighbourhood, they felt the Corn-law's iron grasp. —(Hear, near.) He knew individuals.who worked from three o'clock in the morning till ten O'clock at night, and only earned seven shillings a week to support themselves and families. Last week a case came under his notice of a family who had nut tasted food for two days. (Hear, hear.) But, to take a larger survey, England, Scotland, Ireland, and Wales presented one picture of misery. In Scotland it had been proved that the prac tice existed of mixing bran with the oatmeal.. In Wales similar similar scenes existed ; but in Ireland they were impossible to be described.—(Hear.) It had been stated at the Manchester Conference, that the privations of the British poor were comparative comfort when contrasted with those of the peasantry of Ireland, and to the truth of that he could bear his personal testimony. Even in Dublin ho had observed in the streets whole families, and the only garment they had to cover them was the large grey cloak so much worn in that country. Mr. Somers then went into the details of the distress -men tioned in tisOt House ofCoramons by Mr. Sharman-Craw ford and other Hon. Members. The distress throughout the whole of England was derived from ohs and the same cause, namely, the tax upon food.—(Hear, hear.) They might justly ask how they carae by these Corn laws ? It was true they were passed by the House of Commons ; but was that House of Commons the repre sentative of the people ?—(Cheers, and cries of " No.") The signatures to the petitions against the passing of the Corn-laws were 1,638,000 more than those to the peti tions in its favour. So great was the hurry to get the Bill passed into a law, that, although a public meeting was summoned to petition the Crown not to sign it, it was hurried through both Houses, and received the Royal signature before the meeting could be held. It was asserted that the Corn-law benefited the agricul turists. But it appeared the expenditure of a farm in 1775, before the Corn-law, was 17C./., while in 1831 the expenditure of the same farm was 4501. That showed the amonnt of protection which the agriculturist derived from the Corn-law.—(Hear, hear.) Sir Robert Peel admitted that distress existed, but said that hereafter it should have his solemn consideration ; so that 2,000,000 or 3,000,000 of htuit4n beings, on the verge of starva tion, were to wait till Sir Robert Peel could say what he could do for them. When so many now could not tell where to get bread, what would it be in the coming winter? He looked with the most fearful anticipations to the future.—(Hear.) . Mr. BRYAN seconded the resolution. The resolution was then put, and carried unanimously. Mr. BRAir! moved the nest ,resolution, to the effect " That the distresses of the country call for a prompt and efficacious remedy," and deprecated the postpone ment of their consideration. Mr. SMITH seconded the resolution. If not prepared with a plan for the relief of the country, Sir Robert Peel ought not to have taken office.—(Loud cheers.) In ordinary business what would they say to a man who had been knocking at their door for months and de manding. employ meat, and when they bad admitted him and desired him to turn to and work, he, instead of doing so, was to make a low bow, and say, " Please, Sir, lam not prepared ?"—(Laughter.) Such a thing would be ludicrous in small matters, but in great it was awful. The Ministry had no right to accept the seals of office if not prepared to do the duty.—(Cheers.) Sir Charles Napier, M.P., Dr. Bowring, M.P.. Mr. Yorke, M.P., and other gentlemen, here entered the room, and were received with the most enthusiastic cheering. Mr. HINE opposed the motion, and was pushed off the platform. He made his way back again, and insisted upon being heard. Great uproar ensued. Mr. Hine declared, in a stentorian voice, that they (the opponents of the present Ministry) advocated an Bs. duty, whereas they were only paying is. duty. Dr. BOWRING sail it was only is. a quarter when at a starvation price. Mr. llin a e was again pushed off the platform, and great uproar ensued. Sir CaARLES NAP'En, M.P., with difficulty obtained a he :ring. If he held any influence over them they would hear the gentleman till midnight, and he would undertake to reply to him.—(Loud cheers.) Mr. HINE was then heard. The Rev. Mr. G &ma:: triumphantly replied to him. The resolution was then put and carried, only one hand being held up again,t - it. . . Sir CHARLES N'APIER came forward, amidst enthusias tic cheering, to move the next resolution :—" That we present a dutiful and loyal memorial to her Majesty, praying her not to allow the present Parliament to be prorogued until the state of the country be fully investigated, with a view to such remedial measures as shall ameliorate the condition of our suffering low-subjects." The resolution was a very proper one to be moved and carried ; but he could not give them any flattering hopes that it would be successful in its object. The present Ministers had declared most decidedly that they would not assent to the wishes of the people.—(Cries of " Shame.") It was disgrace ful that they should accept•office and not be prepared to adopt some remedial measures, especially as related to the duties on corn, sugar, and timber. By the perseve rance of gentlemen on his Fido of the House, Sir Robert Peel, although he came with-the intention of being silent, had been forced to speak out.—(Cheers.) They had driven out-the late Ministers, and were not prepared to propose any measures themselves.—(Cries of "Shame.") Sir Robert Peel had told them distinctly that the poor must go through all the rigours of the winter to give him time for consideration. The late Ministry were prepared with measures of relief, but he (Sir Robert Peel) bad none, and yet he had driven them out of oflieb.—(Cries o f shame.”) He (Sir Charles Napier) had not de clared his opinion In the House of Commons yet on the Corn Question, but he would take that opportunity of asserting that the Corn-laws were among the worst that ever existed.—(Loud cheers.) The gentle man who had just addressed them had said that corn was lately admitted a t a d u ty ' o f l s ., b u t he would ask whether, if it had not been for Sir Robert's sliding scale, corn would ever have got up to 86s. a quarter 2—(Cheers.) Had there been a fixed duty such a thing would never have happened. -(Loud cheers.) From inquiries he had made amongst the labourers in his own part of the country, h e believed th e y could live very well when corn was from 50s. to 555. When corn was at That price they could manage to get through life very well. The labourers then had 12s. a week, and when corn was about 50s. a quarter they could live, but when it reached BGs., as it was at present, they had no means of living. They could not economise in any other way than by lessening the quantity of bread necessary for their daily subsistence. If the luxuries in which the rich man indulged were to rise as suddenly in price as corn, he might give them up or borrow money at his banker's till the duty fell again, but the poor man could not do that. The shopkeeper would not trust him, and he had no other-mode than by diminishing the quan tity of bread consumed by himself and family. Then, as to the interest of the country in general. Large specula tors were ever on the watch. They had thousands of quarters on hand ; and suppose that he (Sir C. Napier) was a merchant, living in Egypt or Poland, or any other corn-growing country, and observing that corn was high in England, would ship a cargo of corn for this country ; so great were the fluctuations of corn in this country that the probability would be, if the ship was detained by contrary winds, that a duty of perhaps 30s. would be laid on the corn in the interval. The merchant loses by this speculation, and he says " I'll send no more. I'll see the people of England starving first."—(Cheering.) - Dr. BowRINC, in seconding the resolution, begged to .confirm the opinion just expressed by their Gallant Re presentative (Sir C. Napier), that there were but slight grounds to hope for any measure of relief for the suffering poor from hrr Majesty's Government. They seemed de termined to put off the consideration of the Corn-leas, although distress of the most aggravated character was accumulating from day to day.-4 Hear.) It was owing to unjust and unwise legislation that the people wanted bread. It was in vain to expect the House of Commons to do anything till they were made uneasy in their seats by that agitation which they so much deprecated. He begged to remind them that they (the Liberal Members) were helpless in the House of Commons unless the peo ple came to their assistance. You must (continued the lion. Member emphatically) come to our assistance out of the House of Commons. The remainder of the sentence was lost in a deep response of united cheering,. mingled with loud cries of" We will." The Hon. Gentleman re peated his cordial assent to the resolution, and sat down amidst great applause. • The CHAIRMAN put the resolution, and it was carried by acclamation. A memorial to the Queen, praying her Majesty not to prorogue Parliament till the Corn-laws had been con sidered, was then read. Mr. YouRE, M.P. for Fork, at the request of the meetin•, came forward to move the adoption of the memorial. The Rev. Mr. GARNEY seconded the adoption of the memorial. The CHAIRMAN put the motion, and it was carried unanimously. The memorial received a great number of signatures on the spot. • MARYLEBONE. A public meeting of the inhabitants of Christ Church, Marylebone, was held on Friday evening at the Lord High . Admiral, Church-street, Lisson-grove, to hear a lecture on the Corn-laws from Mr. Sidney Smith, and to memorialise the Queen. Mr. SMITH intimated that he had an interview with the Earl of Radnor and Lord Kinnaird in the early part, of the • day, and their Lordships had consented to go down to Windsor, and present the vast number of memo rials to her Majesty which had been forwarded to the Metropolitan Anti-Corn-law Association from all parts of the empire. The memorial received a vast number of signatures on the spot. MARYLEBONE RECTORY. A meeting of the inhabitants of this district took place at the Queen's Head High-street, on Thursday evening to memorialise her Majesty against the proro gation of Parliament. 'rho meeting was then a adjeurned to Friday, October 8. ST. GEORGE'S IN THE EAST. A meeting of the inhabitants of this vicinity was held on Thursday evening to memorialize her Majesty, which adjourned until Thursday next, when it is proposed that a lecture 1,43 delivered. YOUNG MIN'S METROPOLITAN ANTI-MONO . ii*POLY ASSOCIATION. N'tnost numerous and respectable meeting of this As sociation took . place last night at South-place chapel, insbury -square, for the purpose of memorialising her bsty not to prorogue Par lament. Notwithstanding t} 'Vreme wetness of the evening, the, chapel was crow 'to overflowing. Dr. Bos"vring was voted to the Chair. PETER TAYLOR, Esq., jun., proposed the first resolu tion. The young men of London now appeared as an association for the purpose of contributing their efforts to the great cause of free trade. He concluded by pro posing a resolution, which Mr. PRESTON seconded, and was unanimously carried. Mr. G OODLIFFE proposed the second resolution, which Mr. FOSTER seconded. A raernorial was then adopted, after which the meet ing adjourned at a late hour. ANTI-BREAD TAX CONFERENCE IN WALES. (From the Carnarvon Herold.) On Tuesday evenhig last a meeting was held in the Guildhall of this town, to take into consideration the propriety of having a:Conference of Ministers, held in Carnarvon, of a similar nature to the one held in Man chester, in August Ink. The Chair was takiln at seven o'clock, by Mr. W. G. Thomas, architect. ..T= The Chairman caged on Mr. Walter Griffith, Anti- Corn-law Lecturer, to explain the'Object of the meeting. That Gentleman commenced by giving a brief account of the Anti-Corn-law movements during the last three years. lie gave a short sketch of the late Conference at Manchester, with the effects already produced, and those likely to be further produced, by the said meeting. There could be no . 4oubt, he said, but that the Welsh ministers felt strongly on behalf of their oppressed fel low-countrymen ; and would agitate, to the best of their ability, for the: repeal of an impost so injurious and oppressive as the existing Corn-law. The object of the ministers of the gospel at Carnarvon, in calling this meeting; together, was to ascertain the feeling of the town, respecting a Ministerial Con feeence. They considered such a meeting quite neces sary, and they hoped they would meet with every encou ragement from their fellow-townsmen. He .considered the doom of the bread-tax sealed, since the cause of re peal was taken in hand by Gospel ministers. What but the efforts of the religious part of the community had been the means of abolishing slavery? and nothing but the efforts of Christians wilt effectually destroy mono poly. Ile had often wished the Welsh ministers to be forward in this great cause, and it gave him great plea sure to see them now coining forward so nobly. The Rev. I. W. GRIFFITH, Baptist minister, said they lied come together on the present occasion because they felt for the thousands that were starving around them. There was great distress in Carnarvon. which ministers of the Gospel had particular opportunities of witnessing ; and if such was the state of Carrie rvon, what must the state of the whole country be? The, reat object was to give adequate means of expression to tale popular detestation of the existing bread-tax. It would then soon fall. The oppressed must break the chains of oppression ; the oppressor never will. It was thought about last May, that things would soon come better, but now darkness again surrounds us. Yet, although the majority in Parliament are monopolists, the- ministers of Christ feel for the poor, and are determined, if possible, to fill the hungry with food. , The bread-tax is anti-Scriptural and unjust; it is a violation of the commandment, " Love thy neigh bour as thyself." It " muzzles the mouth of the ox." There is n' real scarcity in any article of food : all the mischief arises from bad legislation. There is plenty Of corn left to rot in foreign countries, while the poor in Britain are starving. There is no bread-tax in any country except in Britain. Some people talk about being independent of foreigners, but such independence is an impossibility. Besides, Britain would have no need to fear of famine, if she never raised any corn. The bread-tax is pregnant with misery and death. It is useless to expect any reform by saying, "If you please." The people must arrest good from the mono polists. The popular voice broke the chains of the negro, and the popular voice must detroy the food-tax. There are many ready to blame ministers for meddling with politics, but I say to them, in the words of Mr. Black borne, of London, " Ministers meddle with politics only when politics meddle with religion." Through the ef forts of the religious community, and the blessings of God, monopoly will be destroyed. Mr. W. P. SMITH observed, that the present Corn-la , .vs are unjnst, immoral, and unchristian, and that it was the duty of Christian ministers to use all their influence to procure the repeal of such tyrannical and irreligious enactments. Ile proved from the word of God that it is the duty of ministers to be foremost in the moral strife against every •social,evil ; and that it is their duty to care for the temporal happiness of their flocks, as well as for their . spiritual condition ; teaching the people to obey the laws, and the Legislature' to rule in righteousness. It was as much the it duty to instruct the Legislature in the laws of Christianity, as it was to unfold the blessings of the Gospel to the people. The Rev. W. WannrA:sts, Independent minister, said that Christian ministers were watchmen, and unless they cared for the temporal condition of the poor,- they did not watch honestly. He could not believe that a-minis ter cared for a poor man's soul, while he was indifferent to his temporal welfare. The apostle John says, "If a man say, I love God, and 'hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom lie bath seen, how can he love God whom he bath not seen?" . There are Some people who are filled with plenty them selves, yet never feel for others who are in the greatest misery ! Yet distress and misery were rife throughout the country. In one town there were 13G living upon Gd. per head per week, 291 upon 100. per head per week, 508 upon Is. per head per week, 1,885 upon Is. Gd. per head per week, 1,500 upon Is. Oil. per head per week, and 812 upon 2s. 2d. per head per week. Five sixths of the whole had hardly a blanket to cover them eighty-five families were without any blankets, whilst forty-seven families were sleeping on chaff beds and wood shavings. .This country had always been in distress since the Corn-laws were passed. Countries are as de pendent on each other as are individuals. One country produces tea. another coffee, sugar, &c. ; another copper, lead, slates, &c. ; another silk, &c. ; and it was by in terchange alone that each become possessed of the en joyments of the other. Trade, therefore, ought to be free. The sliding scale ruins commerce. It is a gam bling concern—it cheats the country. God has given an inheritance to the poor, viz, his hands, eyes, ears, &c., and he commanded the Israelites, saying : "And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not make clean riddance of the corners of thy field when thou reapest, neither shalt thou gather any gleaning of thy harvest ; thou shalt leave them unter the poor and the stranger. lam the Lord your God." But the poor in this country are not al lowed to enjoy their inheritance. The Corn-laws ope rate very injuriously on the shipping interest. Formerly, many shipping vessels used to winter in this port. They earned enough in summer time to keep them at home all whiter ; but now they. are compelled to labour hard summer and winter, and to go out in all sorts of weather to get a little bread for their hungry families. Giving parochial aid - to the working man is only like throwing a piece of bread to a dog while he is fastened to a chain. Let us have free trade, then our working population will be fully employed, and there will he no need for work heusee. ' Some people are very fond of giving charity, for the sake of keeping the poor dependent upon them, and making them serfs to themselves. The Corn-law is a yoke of iron, and we are no better than slaves under such infamous enactments. We are well aware that there is much opposition to us in this cause, but we ought not to care for that ; we know that God is for us. All laws restricting the food of the community are violations of the law of the Most High. . In . the days of that wise King,.Solomon, there was free trade between him and Hiram, the King of Tyre. Hiram gave Solomon cedar trees, and Solomon gave Hiram wheat for food; and there was peace between them. The most effective thing to set countries at variance are restrictive laws respecting food. Free trade is peace. Our beloved country is involved in distress and misery. The distress is not temporary, but has continued for a long time; and its root is the [meld tax. There are many in this town who suffer privations beyond description; yet these sufferers are honest, sober, and willing to work. The Corn-law is a barrier on the progress of education. It prevents the pour man from educating his children as he would wish. If the poor man's children are to receive any educatiou.at all they must be sent to the national schools, although the chief object of these schools is to generate respect in the minds of young people to the state church, and thus make them supports of the worst of all monopolies—the monopoly of religion. We have seen many of the state parsons very busy in giving clothes, &c., away to the poor; but this is done in order to draw the attention of the needy from the real cause of their distress. If these men cared for the poor, why did they do all in their power at the late elections to send monopolists to Parliament? They did all they could to send men to Parliament that were pledged to the starvation system. Such cha rity as the charity of these men, is but like cutting the branches of a tree while the root is still left. It is to inake themselves popular at other people's expense: The wise .and good Creator has furnished man with the means to be independent, had wicked laws left him fair l p The Rev. J. BaasAst, Wesleyan Methodist, said, had he been in Manchester at the time of the Conference, he would have been present at that meeting. He was sorry to find the names of only two ministers belonging to his connexion at that meeting ; but he knew it was owing to a resolution adopteirby their body some time ago, not to meddle with politics, and not from any indifferenee to the cause of the suffering poor. Who should be first labouring in the cause of the poor but their ministers ? Most of them had arisen from amongst the poor ; and they knew the sufferings of the poor ; they, therefore, ought to be forward in this righteous cause. The vene rable gentleman concluded a most pathetic speech,. by wishing the cause God speed. The meeting was most numerously attended, and the speeches were received throughout with enthusiastic cheers. The following resolutions were unanimously adopted : 1. That the present state of the country loudly-calls for the serious consideration of the Ministers of the Gospel. 2. That this meeting regards with great satisfaction the efforts made to 4re a Conference in Manchester, together with the proceedings of the Ministers in that Conference ; and ace of opinion that a similar Confer ence (Night to be held in Carnarvon, at the latter end of November, and the beginning of December next. 3. That this meeting pledges itself to do all in its power to further the good and humane objects of such a Conference. Old customs, it seems, still prevail in Flanders. A letter from Douai states, that, on occasion of a mar riage, a few days ago, of a wealthy gentleman, at the Chateau de Gceuslin, tables were set out for all the in habitants of the village, and the soldiers stationed there ; and at the fourteen public-houses of the village refresh ments were offered at the expense of the newly-married couple. The apartments and gardens of the chateau were thrown open to visitors, balls were given at different spots, and a running match'of all the old women of the village, above sixty, took place for a prize of a crucifix in gold. NEW THEATRICAL VOCALIST. --Amongs t the debuts that will take place during the approaching theatrical season will be that of Mr. W. H. Seguin, fa vourably known as a concert singer, POLICE INTELLIGENCE. MANSION-HOUSE. Mr. Thorpe, a landing-waiter in her Majesty's Cus toms, was brought betbre the I Mayor on Saturday under the folloNino• circumstance :- - Joseph Pollard (Policeman 592) stated, that as he was on duty in Thames-street, the defendant, whose coat was soiled as he passed along from the wheels of a cart, called out to him and accused him of not doing or knowing his duty. -Witness expostulated with him, and represented the impropriety of using accusations of the kind ; but the defendant persevered in charging him with neglect of duty in not preventing the crowding of carts and other vehicles, and a mob having gathered, he found it neces s,try to convey him to the station-house, Mr. Thorpe, who appeared to be an extremely mild and gentleman-like man, said that as he and a friend were passing through Thames-street, the way was completely blocked up with carts, and he (defendant) was forced against the wall, and placed in a dangerous situation. He remonstrated with the policeman, who, however, in stead et' interfering to clear the way, which was quite practicable, was excessively insolent, and took him (de fendant) into custody—a very disagreeable dilemma to be placed in after the labours of the day. Mr. James Hastings, also a landing-waiter in her Ma jesty's Customs, stated that he was with his friend Mr. Thorpe when the occurrence took place. A cart and horse ran actually across the foot-way, and Therpe spoke to the policeman to remove the nuisance. The policeman replied in an impertinent manner that he was the best judge of his own duty, and that Mr. Thorpe had better exchange coats with him. Again Mr. Thorpe re monstrated with the policeman, who then said he would take Mr. Thorpe to the station-house, and carried his threat into execution. As for the mob of which the policeman spoke, if a few passers by stopped from curi osity to ascertain how the affair would end . could be called a mob, there certainly was one. The LORD MAroa—The policeman has been evidently wrong in this case. Who could blame a gentleman . for remonstrating with any person who had a badge of au thority upon him, upon seeing the street in the way de scribed ? When a cart and horse are across a pavement, what could be more reasonable than for a gentleman to say to a policeman, " Why do you not remove this nui sance?" What can you say, policeman, in justification or palliation of such conduct? The policeman said that what Mr. Thorpe had stated was false. The LORD MAYOR said that the defendant was borne out in everything he said by the gentleman whe accom panied him, and calmly witnessed the whole proceeding. The policeman is certainly reprehensible, and I advise thegentleman who was taken to the station-house to ap ply to the City Police Commissioner, who, I have no doubt., will teach the man to do his duty better. Mr. Thorpe—lt is just what I intend to do, mv Lord. I think it necessary to mention to your Lordship, that when he took me into custody he ordered me.to walk with him ; I did so, and as we went along he endeavoured to aggravate me to assault him by pushing me, and saying "Go on, fellow." I appeal to my friend whether this is not the fact Mr. Hastings—Certainly it is. His conduct was gross in the extreme. The LoRD AfAYon--Well, Sir, I, of course, discharge the case ; by all means advise you to apply to the City, Police Commissioner on the subject. GUILDHALL. On Saturday, a person of respectable appearance, who said his name was Samuel Hardinge, the secretary to the United Kingdom Anti-Teetotal Society, formed to defend the temperate use of wine, beer, and spirits, was brought up in custody of Roe, the city officer, charged with conspiring with a deceased clergyman, to defraud Mr. Walton, the jeweller in Ludgate-street. Mr. HUMPHREYS', who attended on behalf of the prose cutor, stated the nature of the case, and called Mr. Walton, who deposed that about the middle of January, 1839, the prisoner, who then called himself Stanley Hardinge Harborough, came in company with a clergy man, the Zlc v. E. H, Barker, to. his shop ',to •look 'at a pearl claw pin and chain. He showed the prisoner one at seven guineas, for which he agreed to give 71., hut said as he was rather short of money be would leave 5/. on' account and pay the remainder in the course of a week. He then wished to see some handsome gold watches, and after looking over a number he selected a hunter at 28/. lie then said, " Well, I'll tell you what I will do, Mr. Walton ; I will give you ' lol., and pay the remainder to• morrow week.' The clergyman immediately said. "You may safely trust my friead, Mr. Harborough. He will pay you duly. I know him well." Witness replied that, depending on Mr. Barker's assurance, he would give him credit to that time. Mr. Harborough then looked out a waistcoat pocket chain and key, value 2/. - 55., which he was to pay for with the rest. •He also ordered a gold guard chain to snatch, at about ten guineas, to be ready in a few flays. The prisoner took 15/. from what appeared to be a roll of notes amounting to 200/., paid it off the account, amounting to 3;L, re ceived the articles, and promised to bring the balance, 22/., when he called for the guard chain. The next day, however, he came agair , and ordered a brooch to be sent to his lodgings in ,Term rn-street, saying that he expected in the interim to receive some cash from his solicitor, and to be enabled to send witness some money.. The boy who delivered the brooch brought back a note from the pri soner that his Solicitor had disappointed him. Witness had been unable so meet with him from that time. He had received notes promising payment. He subsequently discovered that the prisoner had been detained in White cross-street prison for Tour months in 1838—that the clergyman had recently emerged from the Fleet, and that the watch and chain were pawned. Mr. Alderman HUMPF:ERY observed it was very indis creet to give credit to str?,flgers, whatever representation they might make. Mr. HUMPHREYS replied, that the exhibition' of the heavy roll of notes, first to give 5/., then la more, dazzled his client. Mr. Walton said, the clergyman had called a fortnight before, to get a watch repaired. They conversed about Cambridge and scientific matters, and, being satisfied the clergyman was a learrwd man, he concluded he would not be a rogue. Roe, the officer, stated that Mr. Walton, having re ceived an anonymous note that the prisoner would be found at the Anti-Teetotal Institution, Lambrook court, liasinghall- street, he went with a pretended note of invitation to give a lecture, and when he obtained an interview with' the secretary, took him into custody. He found in his possession some duplicates for trifling pledges, some letters addressed to him in Buxton-street, "Cr oswell-road, and an invoice of 271: worth of goods obti..4ned from a Mr. Wigan, of Birmingham. Mr. Alderman HUMPI-MilY; remarking that these goods had been obtained over a month ago, asked him whether they had been paid for ?—Prisoner said they had, by a bill which was not yet due. The ALDERMAN then called upon the prisoner to answer the charge. Prisoner said he used the name of Harborough be cause he had been using it for years in France. He in tended to pay for the jewellery, but was unable to do so. He had offered to pay a further part, but Mr. Walton would have either all or none. He admitted that he pawned the watch, and seine friend sold the ticket to Ruthven, formerly of Bow-street. He obtained only 81. for the watch. Mr. HumPHltEvs prayed that the prisoner might be remanded for further examination. The prisoner was remanded till Friday next. POLICE COMMITTEE,' GUILDHALL. THE LICENSED VICTUALLEIIS AND THE POLICE.— FOT some time past the police in the city have been threatening the licensed victwillers with an information under the Police Act, that if they receive prostitutes within their doors, they "wilfully and knowingly har bour persons of notoriously had character," and are p,—ailty of the penalty imposed by the Act in such cases. The present case was that of Ralph Thomas Fellowes, of the Green Dragon, Fleet-street, summoned by a police man, who'stated that on Monday night, about half-past twelve, he heard a noise, scuffling, and (apparently) fighting in the defendant'S house, and a short time after wards he saw seventeen prostitutes and twelve men turned out of the house. Alderman JonxsoN—How do you know they were prostitutes ? Policeman—By their walking on my beat. Upon cross-examination by Mr. HOBLER, the policeman. said he believed Mr. FeHowes did urge the people to leave his house, and he acknowledged that other houses in the neighbourhood were kept open as late as that of Mr. Tellowes ; he admitted that all the parties were quiet and orderly in coming out, and he did not know that any of them had been convicted of felony. Alderman HOOPER said that was not necessary ; per sons might be of notoriously bad character without having been convicted of .felony. Mr. Hobler submitted that there was no law to prevent prostitutes from being suppli.ed with refreshments, and no law to compel licensed victuallers to close at any 'par ticular time ; and it ought not to be left to the judgment of policemen whether their customers were of good cha racter or not, nor could the charge of harbouring " noto riously bad characters" be maintained unless there had been a conviction, - Mr. Fellowcs, in his defence, stated that he invariably closed his house at ,twelve o'clock, and cleared it at half put twelve. Alderman JOHNSON—But if this house is frequented by those who are known to be street-walkers, they are certainly of notoriously bad character.. Mr. Honmar contended that they must have been convicted of. some offence, in order to establish such a position ; and, said Mr. llobler (emphatically), " I thank God there is at present no law to prevent these'unfortu nate women from obtaining refreshments!' The ALDESMEN (Messrs. Johnson and Hooper), after consulting for a short time, decided upon inflicting a penalty of 405., thus establishing the principle that licensed victuallers in the city of London are not allowed to serve ,prostitutes, if even they conduct themselves orderly'. MARLBOROUGH-STREET. Two warrants, of a very remarkable nature, are in coursc of execution by the police. The first relates to the well-known Mr. Gundry, of the Albany, against whom a warrant has been out upwards of three w e ek s , f or as saulting the housekeeper of a gentleman resident in the Albany. Mr. Gundry has completely set the p o li ce an d the law at defiance. He has in a manner made a regular fortification of his house, and has engaged a number of rough fellows to keep watch at the door, and to prevent a ny attempt of the police to capture him. M r . G un d ry has had his street door furnished with a new chain, and he will only allow the door to be opened by himself, when his meals are brought to him f rom a ne i g hb our i ng tavern. One of his chief myrmidons is a sweeper of a c rossing, who has abdicated his broom, and now struts in a fine livery, Frovided by Mr. Gundry. Mr. Gundry's trustworthy body-guard was sent with a 51. note some days back to get changed ; the man has found his task so difficult that he has not as yet made his appearance. The proceedings of the men hired by Mr. Gundry— drinking and smoking short pipes in the place—have EVENING SUN_, created a good deal of dissatisfaction, and some of gentry have - applied- to the secretary, dr. Luxmorc, the subject; but Mr. Luxmore appears to be unable put an end to the nuisance. As Mr. Ciundry is supposed. to be well -•armed, rand has more than °ace threatened violance to any one who attempts to tae him into.cus7 tody, the afiair is; of course, considered a matter.of 11"0 hazard, and this may account for the inability. a 11 police to make the caption. A relation of _Mr. Gundr?ti% it is Understood, has it in contemplation to teaks further inquiries as will serve to show the real state the mind of this eccentric rrentleman. An in: The second warrant is of'' a graer character . dividual s of station, said to be a Nobleman, stands char;, with having violated a respectable girl, under circum• stances of great atrocity. The police have been, s in f s : " five search of the offernler fur upwards of a week , ",?-: yet have not succeeded in doing anything effectual. .0 particulars of the alleged outrage, as far as they h u . `, transpired, seemed to be that the Nobleman, under 'of assumed character, introduced himself to the frie n "'„,, his victim. About a tbrtnight ago he peranaded the lady to accompany him to the theatre. Before lin was over, he persuaded her to return home w ith 10,ffl, ft , a hackney-coach. The coachman having receive,Vbe structions, drove to a house and set his fare down. 3 young lady, finding she was in a strange place, serYel%),, loudly. She was Immediately overpowered , and ford, abused. In the morning she walls pl a ced in a e'lb' a for according to instructions to the driver, drive n abuu, some hours, and then set down. She commume' T ., . what had occurred to her friends, who immediatelY,Vit:e cured a warrant, and a.clue was at last obtained elder, name and rank,of the Qrfender. Some delay is l l n a r k stood to have taken place, from the imposSibility "oo ing the hackney-coachman and cab-driver ; but 111$ : t ire of this serious nature, if a trifling reward will pr% to the requisite information, and' there is every, ref's ° re . believe that the evidence cannot be obtained uless il i a, ward is offered, there should be no difficulty on thaLr° UNION- Edward Tomlins, who des HAL L. cribed hi m self as ." a w eb: tleman," was brought before Mr. Traill, charge," .01- assaulting an undertaker under the-fallowing- We stances :-- ndert r Mr. William Dunkiy stated that he was nu 11- t wo ker, and lived in Tower-street, Lambeth. BetWee'o,,,re and three o'clock that morning he and his falil e il l ec einr, roused from their beds by loud and co ntinued n T e do ol at the street-door. When h e looked m al l e' - -11 it of ask he saw the defendant and four oth e r men, „,„ "ng , ing them what they wanted at that hour of the the reply was, "We Want you to do a blaci at come dOWIL " He thought they wanted to hoe% 111 and first, and desired them to go about their busine s3 ' p e to not be disturbing the inhabitants ; but they ret lis i go, and declared that they called for the purpos e (,) r be in e• him an order for a ftineral, and insisted at come down and take their directions on t7. ( e ) ,. the ject. Although the hour was unsea sonabld i , transaction of such business, yet, on tPe'-feieer, surance that they wanted an immediate ins -- with him on "professional business," he actor whe n slipped on his breecheS, and descended to the door, thefive strangers.entered, and defendant, acldressilleed4 again, alluded to the purport of their visit, ergl o. 3 e .o. „ that the funeral must take place without delay- and e said the undertaker, may I ask the name an d . 4)-c a the residence of the deceased ?" " Oh ' yes," answerelor defendant, his name is " Snooks," and he lives pro both-walk ; and as he is either dead or dying .°f c ,i t t) ove l morbus, his family were desirous of having 1 0111 ,i, e into the ground as speedily as possible, in es-se, rages of the disorder should extend and Wl' ° • n tej The undertaker, perceiving that the parties 01'4 ‘ v- er to hoax him, desired them to quit his house, - reel should call the police, and after some threatenill; ha ft' nacrs had been held out to them they at lengtall eve Before, however, the undertaker had been in b e et the minutes, he was called up by repeated knock s door, accompanied by ringing at the bell ; and on thee` aro in up the lied-room window and looking out , 1,0 c'e d'e saw the defendant,' who earnestly implored him e down to take his elirecaons for a funeral, urging t ' or der , cessity of his paying immediate attention to the oce and declaring that if he did not he would stern' ova of being " bundled, neck and crop, into one of his sof t coffins." The undertaker, sorely vexed that r e ' Jai , that of his family should be disturbed by again descended to the door for the purpose ef eir; them into custody ; but they ail ran away ; wit h t ;j e all' ception of the defendant, who stood his gree n 'e t e o ' loudly asseverated that he had come there on I s l3 t •ieett with the undertaker, and that no man would be i us e t i fol in making any charge against him. He again re fe i r no a funeral, and endeavoured to persuade the coleP'ailefor that a job really awaited him. A third time th e e ( en° dant called up the undertaker, who vowed ire e ", e llor' against his tormentor, and seizing hiM by . th e p O O held him until a policeman could it, tle arrived, and than into custody. • • elut e Mr. TRAIL', asked the defendant what him to disturb tile undertaker at such an hour 1 ;: t tl morning ? The defendant said that he had bee ° w on' "Codger's • Society," and having drunk rather freely than usual he did not on that account exact what he was doing. eee tftl Mr. TRAILL—Did you give any directions rest,- a funeral ? Defendant—l don't remember. the Undertaker,-You heard that your friend die d n. de cholera, and you wanted him to be buried friend` lay ? Defendant—l don't remember. e Mr. Teener—Then it appears that p”,. 1- t- -- -' - ' your recollection on the . occasion ? t druv - T , attempted to practise such a hoax when t- e cca• I am sorry for it, and will take care it shall now again. The undertaker said that for the last three Ytovi milar tricks had been played upon him, and m e - t eeo . requested that an example might be made to deter The defendant begged hard for forgivenefs , "that when the liquor was in the wit was out," b ° 0 0i , Magistrate was inexorable, and inflicted a penult)" ° upon him, or in default, 21 days' imprisonment . o ne We have during the past month frequentlYhoe so the attention of our readers to the abuses which; boo',.' long existed at the Post-office of this place; miry ever much we may regret the result of the inV i l c or our remarks have had, so far as individuals ar e a the cerned, we cannot butcongratulate the public 4 ° , 0 t ei. , prospect that now presents itself, with reference t the Department of the public service. 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