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",a1 ,7ity the s'ltne as that 01 1 _,__ Commis- Stock should boar a high ptice• If the i,ioltirs were take() out of Often happen that a privatepg:rsoi i n. l e ° s or other the market;l,,oiit brought '°( '''k '0 Sale ' either or the l'"'cl-"-, „- . , P.° Perty, br for art , ' purpose, unless be seas Commissioners as .a ? 2 ill'e nf the Broker of the Cmha"- , •ohhers, . ,ii'''''ilier, would b e at the mercy of to x e v l heil the ',..' there r. o 1 t be no real buyers' tin t v ` ( . A ou se, that the t Gentleman to ld the .1- whether the Sttik object, . °1 his :notion was to inquirt's he h opef t they t l y 'l g 1! "od should be pot an emltt. so.dangerou,s a, eultt patiSe hefore they adopted Itrse • A distretien Was nosy vestetdii°bthtte.nLwxise; ,4 t'1.19 . ' ' which it wont:, c .. fetter_e Government, ~ .0_ ~_ H ouse ; and 1 1 : : t ' l. r. by a 116olutina f!"..eus, time, he coal; „ I . l o e . hot ion tvas inexpedientiat yuli‘ine. He should :tilt have chose n a more "" )aPiP finance , ► ' e t et into the topics ° I . ay iNi.„ver, which ' ‘ s .e tt rater mied by the Hotro te t 4 t . I le which had 1 with the" present s v i, .,e 1)11, by etionel= ,_.unith, into discoi -I",4Ject, and wool:I he'sittm °' lie felt that it would )0 in a more te , .., , ular way --tie and ShOuld, con so eit Pr,Anature f or him to d os ."'t. "t i le bY ".!'s'eting r()themoti fi t O„se approved of . t i. e "t 'd AL TLi Ottis said, if ii Li o ti. Friend proceed.- t,l. titrineiple on which his e,,,arce there was ti, t ' ) E . y must recollect bow ; li ttl e i, Ex cheque t bilOU1(1 .. tdo ".e Chancellor- of 1 i ; time bad elaltse_d Pt it coositterin , how out, . 11 ;,, ; , 1114 llt 'any altelnpl 'l of the kind to tee m " a i r i l a e t . ui l t t. , ' . ." tot any go back far enough . of the Funds bee '''. 15 t. 'ut 'limn iq.ionerS of the ..e 'net t! 1,,,,d been; ahy Comm ....that in those I ;,' : „ ektl itl ti g I" ; 'i li ti . td at, ' ' ail. th i e f lalt p ic P :;e(l-. .."les tile ini - tzs Of Stock bad. been a s • t it i;resen.- ' s teady as. ikli 11,' . 1 that lie could t n ~ t ILsoN (Of L • ott4oo sat'' , . i mi. f his Hon. Frient (. l . (3re,ele tor the Motion o though, if i t. h a , t t ' 4 . 0) in its present ,shape, i, ~, _i,,ht have ac- e '' iii sotn e de, , ree Inodifict., in- ~., a tett u! to it. !b • . M r l) tLi t• • ..,ICARDO said, that as t:)stebee what v an Price of Stock, he could 11ot in ~_wavwhieh ) )4(i -Ke of this was to the (public i,ocei ' l ' o e r of tite.Ex. Zi,til.,ttl.t 11 7 . 1 I i t e ti( L " :, i ' l l un b i y ss t i l : ;: „. C rs a a,ppere d regularly ic There was P ( 1, Il ie ,, l `e market with' their tinSt°,c--- ..e which were .was s o perfet i , 4 Coi in ' )ssible there e° lll 9 I "'Pttition • and it was 1111 P( • -•e1;11 (Mr. 't 'tiy I ' • ''t ilislion..E" • he Ci l Ol t r 'tellc,) bail alluded of the the ri k aocellor ro the oniiiimi which l',.,ef 4 ') had expressed tie . , of .tie sinking )equer as to the application t for c,,press.. 7 Qatt t , iti„ fi e took to hiintelf no nte i to '. ic tliat °Pinion, as it wt., ,1 tic .1 one which he tiad long but-tiliaihed, and having Buret : aimed .,,.d. l ic . t i. 1 1 1 1 , e e c s o ti u m h e i . ' snare, , " have honourably conceal , ~ I men 1 4 ,'. , " Was cons inced that ''the t it e r Gent e ..- I'l 4l : 1 4(1 gi ven th e i r opittio:tr i s i t e a o:i i i i d sincerity. 4 , 4 11 e .., .. t a li n at occasion , i\it 1 . 4 'a With p erfect g " o I House could not b e 1 ..USX.IiSON said, th4l the ; Ie moved for, Witi:r'artu to gh into the Commit , e fQr t i th e-th vie w of comp, (ling, the, C"iltriti".""l'e" the views of tile ink ill ~, Fund to act upon not pre. • [i nn ' , . aced if they were . they I ) ar ed • Gtntlentati ; •to 1 i e „,,,„, no reason why .e alimilfl t 0 so, i ier . , . , at a • ii, As to tie ; I "esii g ` ) into the Conti-fume I • ,, i) puce of the f lu e" of advantage from a " be ah,tracted-. 1 Y I, '- ' it was' one which c o hld not , bath seen ‘. B n Cg 1. L. tn lni . 1 • et& , b ut he . itself, to. ilietv that I t il e II::: .aiosnloi 0 slan t o i Co question titrey. The Act ,cytole,ifdt ei 4er, i • . 11,14 t t.ictisSillg it r • '-':1.1 • ybic hi I mmissionet S.l timviiollY inconvenient for t o f , Ay (-tier, the public interest ~ ~e r, j t , '''t ti,',.: '••-• GRANT said, life 6 1) that it had no,t r. had beeobj objected at specific abject', ce a , :or ili is fj*,ll)e time" Csuictitwaatsiissacitiii„tihoi This. , w a 'llfe ll o a t r argument. m p e r : t i . ) o el f . Ilti t ,,,' In • Friend o as, that it was avery sE fi r o li e n g u e ) Lor,,, amid Could never be profitable for any . L ( Ity oi , ` 4 tie , (- ney at the time 'when he rr ! i t i tl e d o s n u i cyh,:asyn in avili I.•aittetl remit/ in his pocket., - e was . any Itil v ' l i ' could be made out that the, ihat_ tyi,et_riee p r at in this , v „,,., 1-,,y . supp osing , Pr es 4411° strange operation performed - cif l the b Funds i istiaeltit s ys , eoi in keeping the price o,wileiiir o r n r . y• What this operation was, and hi ' h nail in - n o ~t i • t was beneficial, was a thin g w t c, or hi s Ll‘v ti - Iv4 Y been sofficien . tly eNplained. Fund hltntt'arl, he could not hear the Sinking.,. 11 e..l"'d Without expressing hits ()Ow?" that t t ' t it Wiserili: the wh o l e system something ex l'i I llie v lY i,", ) : ) -'inus. What could be the advantage of a Fund tvtlieevi•••i; Taxt s to defray the expenseshentfit than tl iat nf was to 1 . no greater - pit, duce s ee a aceurmklaling at interest , 1 . He could not WlliohtlY °,bjeetion to his Hon. kriend's .. th a ot r iO e t e l d , 040 -tlated to a suhject which all were nowhere so hell Ohio t o be discussed, and could Le itir(l.4ettssed as in a Committee. tlie o•.CALLAGitatithat may be s ot the 1-104sPittion of Ceotlemen of both s " e- he. whatev . e i r t 4-. 1 e on tiro proposi;11, 11 How before them .c'on.. ~. , v:_olght 11 ' 'a— ‘vl4lll' I the discussion must be ... qic ert ~ lal( 'l‘ :.10 0 ") ,that in the fourth year of peace,o:wg liv e 'B'.illions, - we-otight to have area( and tree ''f A ,111,1" rig Fund, not a nominal one... The.dciaysie. tt,i.‘°;,,,.'lltry Was the same as that °l ' an . T e d a ftlim•e•tAn mai) would say he had establis h ed slit,,.liquidatitig his debts, if tie c0u 11 (_ 1 .. 9 .1 7 . 1 itit' au excess of ordinary income .o . ver. ii•. tf Y exeoditre. fo'eatablish a Sinking Fund .. t • ti t 1 41 ' 1 " l''e must either reduce our' expenditut e l. kiy.liZeie ott! .income. Ont of an entering of year a millions, which the , Estimates of the ..- ?‘ 1 4 Iv tl'°lloted to• (thirty-niiie• millions whei,e_- ed the f ie(' and 06 . 1 reducible), he' d ' u l D d r i: :•;., toinnriPtacticability of effecting any material ""t r e " I ' ° expellee ;- but when fie considered . lour, there t( ) „,, 's or the country, he thought , 'Y be raised. And it be were asked , the howlo , -oldidilsetit (listless, nurortnn a tely too 4 enera . ` , r, l'''ar • be teti,oved, he 'would - answer,' " R a is , e, iY fire Ailr.n.on'et *din! e!.tablish a real Sinkingl7l•l°.(l; i i 4‘ i 4 tO . l ui l ", l 4 l t felt himself 'much entharrass r eti t t l : e y t .11011 Qatiou t,e motion. It it had been t °I t he :thinking Fund towards any fit,t Loan, he s'hotihi without hesitation have Voted for it. Mr. - GRENFRLL then replied. He held in his t►attd a statement of the price of the Fonds ever• since the Peace. It appeared from it that. the . Three Per Cents. had risen from` 61 . - to 83, and- were now at 73. If this• was called a st'eadiness,of-,price, he was at a loss - to/know what could be . meant. by fluctuation. It was said, this, Was not a prOper time for cimsidering thiS subject. But he would wish to know when it could be More appropriately considered than at the very time when a loan was about to he contracted for? He had no besitatiOn iit statinv that his object ❑ow was, by some means, to make it imperative on his - Majesty's Ministers-to act itt the way which he proposed,. At the approach of a loan it was al ways the interest of those ,intending to contract tiikep down the price of stock;'and accordingly they had now fall e n. Mr. WILSON explained.—The House then divided— For tke motion Aguingt it• ll7 Majority against the motion ....-78 SA LT REVENUE. Mr. WALLACE, pursuant to his notice, Tirse to 'submit to the louse a mOiion relative to the Salt R'e'Venne. ' it; WS ' Cite Al nt y :cif , Me II on s e`, .when ' it found cerraiti . tatcs necessary, to take care that there should bees ,little expenceand as littlecattse for'iilliscontent as P c osiible in the iniWe. of collecting. it-. Ott a former occasion he ha'd remarked; that the , number •of prosecutions, tinder the:. Sall Laws, were very tew—not . more than eleven . in twenty years. To this it had then been replied, by an Hon' Member, that although the prosecu ',tions'were so feW; that the number of compro mises .were immense, and amounted to manylhon sands, Fortunately there was, now upon the table of the House an account of the number of com promises,- trona which it appeared that the total number of compromises within the .11st year was• only thirteen. L.- fast evil which he wished to. remedy, was that of keeping bonds hanging fur a long period over the heads of individuals' under threat of prosecution.' This he intended to re medy bv — an' enactment, tliat i.i a notice of prose cutiottwas not served within a liinited time, the bond should become null: Another provision , Would be, to protect the• revenue from fraud; k ar--1 der the pretext of losses for salt earl it'd by sea ,-.:.. He should not now trouble the House with a fur, ' titer account of the enactments of the' Bill, lie was anxious that it should be passed through the first stages as soon as possible, so as to be printed. He concluded by moving for leave to bring= iu a Bill to alter agd amend the Exei)e Law.s, 'so,tar as related to theyevenue tioin'Sa!t.. . - •Ml'. CALCRAFT seconded the inotio'n. One of the greatest ..:uffeters in tile ,pre , ent-law was the. poor fisheiniath There were diffs - refit classes of persons interested itt the ,hartiship.s inflicted by. the salt duties. They ought certainly-to be re. ! lieved. He woultlnot. now entflinzu !. parlicidars. Although he eutcrtairied serititnents widely at valiance. with - the tio6. ge,iitlental., yet he cheerfully supported the tool ion. Mr. THEmAyto, front What we cemild . hear;*as Against the !notion. Atter some more observations tretin several Gentleinen, tbe • queStion was Put, and leave given to brilig in the Bill. ENLISTMENTS IN FOREIGN SERVICE. The ATTORNEY•GENERAL 'ro-e In bring Inward his motion to prevent BOish Subjects f rom le n , listing in the Set vice of Foreign Powers. The House was . aware that the sovereign -had the power of preventing his subjects front enlisting into the service .of c oulories wil t wh o m we were in a state of neutrality. By the Act of Geo. r ll. this- was made a capital offence. The object Of this Act was to preserve, as strictly as possible, a neutrality between this country and any other States at war with each other. The words of the statute were, !het any subject who under any . foreign: Prince, Potentate, or lower, &c. But a doubt might arise. as tc. whether British subject enlisting boo the service of any district or country not acknowledged as a State or Power,. did or did not conic within the operation of this law. Though it would be ab surd to'suppose that British subjects were pre vented ,from engaging in the service of an ac knowledged Prince, and yet allowed to engage other places, where the people were perhaps .in rebellion ,(though_ be did not 1 - I . leait to use that tel on this ocestsiony against their-country . ;';' though it would be'abstird to suppose this, yet to prevent all misconception of the Statute, he meant to add these words to the Statute—" ColonY, dis trict, or other place, &c." This welild only have the effect of placing persons, who wished so to enlist, on a - foOting with the lest of his Ma jesty'4 subjects. By the 9th and 29th Geis. 11. all British subjects were prevented from violating the neutrality Vreserved by this country with re spect to foreign Powers, under a lienalty-4)1 felony. He could not see the reason 'why, while the sub iects of tors country were distinctly prohibited by law from entering 'into, Or enlisting in the ser vice of any foreign established., -or what was 'deemed legitimate, Government, ,without the per mision of the State, any doubt should . boullowed to remain as to such enlistment withany person 0r - persons assomlng Or exercising tbe - poweis of a tnieign Govertith6tt: The prohibition - as to . the established Governments was clearly marked by the 'Statutes of George 11., but that as to any other Government or people, Was not mention ed in any statute. , Therefore, although the principle of this prohibition was recognized by our common law in all cases, he thought that it ought to be declared .by - scatote . ;: foe' the law ought to be distinctly consistent : bot in producing this consistency, which was the object Of hiS . Bill, he proposed to reduce the penalty prescribed by the Act of George 11. front felony to misdemeanour, and that .'such should be the' penalty towards those who enlisted . in tile service of recogvized Governments to which that Act appi:ed, as well'as towards those persons or colonies by whom or in which the powers of Government were assumed or eser ' eistd. That the enactment of • such a megsore' was proper and necessary in order to maintai n ' oeotrati v, especially in :a contesc between any recognized or parent State and the Colonies con nected with it, was a proposition, which ? be 11ICS. thought, could bardly be withstood. It might be said,' that as • ft :was - aeainst the' law of any State that its sitteleets shonbl,enlist in the service of an other State without the permission of their Sove reign, or violate the neutrality of the State with which they Were COuriebted, the proposition whiCh he submitted was utinecessary, - But the ob ject of his propOsitioo was to render the. law quite explicit and indubitable, and in this object -be was proceeding upon the spirit "of the Act of George the Second, , To carry that. spirit into complete effect, ;lie proposed . that the law should he equal iand congruous With regard to the enlistMent of British subjecti in the service' of foreign Powers, wlietliGr those Powers were .ac knowledeed or unarkuowledged by our own Go- . vernment. This was the first purpose of his pro position •; but there was another yurpose also, nainety, pro Vole that no assistance should be afforded by our subjects in. the fitting out or fur nishing ships for .warlike purposes to any bellige rent Powei-s with which this country was at pea Ce. Such a -provision was so obviously ne cessary to - maintain -neutrality,, that be could, not -.anticipate any, _resistance to its : adoption., as it would he preposterous to sty, this country • was neutral, it, for instance, in thedispute between Spain and its Coloiries,ait allowed- ships to -be 'equipped:and ampplied- with , aminunitiori for war-, like purposes on the part of .the South American COlouies, Spain was precluded from any such accolmnodation, To ,establish this provision was the second- object of the Bill which he pro posed to bring forward, and the necessity of such a provision; with' a view to the preservation of , Our neottality, -could not be questioned by any oi)e acquainted with what was going, forward in various .. parts for the- purpose of seconding the people- of South America. It was not by any means - his intention to }prevent the ships of either of the belligerent parties from reeeiviv a supply of provisions 'in the ports of. this enp, pire, but merely to prohibit the supply of war like stores. From what. he had stated, he apprehended that., no objection.could be made to his motion, unless it was intended that a distinc tion should be made between - powers that were acknowledged•and tlnlie that were not -acknow ledge& by the Government. of this country, and that a decisive advantage should be given to the latter.—(Hear, hear, hear !)—Such a distinction woad be in' violaiion of the common law of the land, as %veil as of the spit-it of the. general law of nations. 'fbe measure then which be proposed was only lo be :regarded as a declaratory which was called for by pecoliar circomstatices, in order to proelaim the will of Parliament, and to guard against any doubt as •to the nature of the law. 'Cie Learned Gentlemao :concluded with moving for leave to bring in a Bill to pro hibit British subjects from' enlisting in firteigui service, and the fitting out, or equipping of yes .sels ,for warlike purposes in any of bis Majesty's ports, without the license of Government. . Sir J. Maelettviosu said, if he could conceive that the measure now proposed by his Right lion. and Learned Friend were intended merely as a niitigation of the Criminal Code of the country, he should not oppose it ; on the contrary, he s h ou ld approve of a measure which went to repe'al the capital•felony created by the Soatites of the 9th and 29th of -Gen. 11. , These Statutes were among t!"ose which it was his intention to bring befere the View of Parliament, the more partico latlY because they seemed to have arisen from temporary circumstances. The Attorney-General scented to have considered those Statutes as trained for the purpose of preserving the relations of peace and amity between Foreign Powers. Stich was not the, case---they. were framed to prevent the formation of Jacobin armies in e Fraoce and Spain: The presetit law, however specious its dile or its juStificatory motives may appear,ecould not de ceive any :person with respect to its obj ! ets. It might- wee:l have been entitled.an Act to prevent his Majesty's subjects from giving:any assistance to the iq.v.ilyol Spanish Colonies in Soutle',Ame ries. On this the House should ponder much be fore it sanctioned one step of, this meastire.--, With respect to the general principle laid doWn by the: Learned Gentleman, relative to the power of Governments to enforce the neutrality of their subjects, no doubts could he ,entertained on the subject. But why were not the Ministers satis fied with the powers consigned to them by the common law, or why- particularly did they at this amoment come to Parliament for additional powers; ' ,Could it be believed that. they did it with the desire of preserving au honest neutrality ?--It ' was the - duty of neutrality no doubt, to en force the laws strictly apiust all persons who would violate it ; but it by the very operation, of those lawS one party appeared to derive an ad vantage. not enjoyed by the other, it was not the duty of a , strict nentraiity to interfere, and, atter the commencement of hostilities, alter the laws that previously existed. 'The object of the present low•was•to make the condition of one of the contending , powers worse than it was before the enactment of such a measure.. The situation of those who engaged in the service of any insurgents was, generally speaking, much worse than that of those-who entered into the service of aeknow hedged powers. In the latter, they would be en `titled to the protection of the laws of nations; `hot in•the former, they were liable to be treated -as insurgents; and subjected to the attendant pu nishment. This. alone was a sufficient cause why tile name of Insnrgeut Governments did not ap- . peer in the Acts . of George 11. But on this sub ject he should make no further observations for the present than. observing, that the proposed :measure formed but part of,a very ticeadse and ougenerous, policy pursued by the Government of .this Country with regard to' the contest that was tarried on between Spain 'and. her revolted Colo- That policy .was reprobated by the great : tnajnrity of the •people -of this Country, not only as being opposed to their generous feelings on be half of a people struggling to•obtain their from the yoke of an oppressive Government, hot as hostile to their best interests. But : , nor with-' sln i th•fg: t h e . s i t o ng impression which - bis - Majes.: ty's Mieisteis seemed to entertain against the Co-, I te k s i e !m i r struggle, for_ freedom, befrust et' God; tht• inhabitants of South America would:be :eventually streeesstol I • CASTLiP.RAGII said, that' he Liatl- been gieatiy.da,zhted 11iLli the eloquence of the lion. Member, .hut regretted extremely Are nature ,of he language which be had uset!. It wits any thing ()tit the languag.e of neutrality. It Was our duty, his Lordship observed, to prevent an abase • from existing against thaT Power., :frith which: we have many important and acknowledged rela tions. He desired to put it to the feelings of the House, whether they would estimate their duty by the degreeOf weakness which might exist nit the part of a friendly Power to assert its fights Spain had power to support her demand, she would have a right to call for the introduction of a laW similar to that whiCh it was now proposed,tt bring in, end if her demand were not Complidd co to plied wit h, she would have a right to resent it.—(Heart) -=Every one approved of the l'rriclaniation which had last year been issued by his loyal highness the Piince Itegent'; requir ing that a strict neutrality shOUld be obser'ved ; hut it was absurd to talk of neutrality, when it foreign power can strew that regiments are pre pared, iota ships fitted out from this counzty.=-. (Cries of hear ! 'from the Opposition side.) 7 , 4le Otve.d . 4n apohigy to the House, and to the coun try, and to the Worltl, in order 'to explain the Bill in questicin 'bad not been brought ward before now. We utiderstacal - his ship to say, that the delay was occasioned` by cert . ain diseaSsions Which had - been jug on respecting the dispute between Spain,' tmcl her - Co.koiei, but that these discussions were now at an' end.' While the CommOn Law of the' conntry applied so 'little to the present situation, it was too Much for the Hon. and Learned Gen tleman to attack his Majesty's. Government 3o' much on a subject of legislation,- . to *llia other countries, equally interested in the result of the' war carried on between Spain and her colonies, led fhe'way; What had the United •States of i~otth Atherica dope relative to qtat"war ? Was it to be accounted unfair in the Legislature of Great Britain to follow the example of United States ? It ivas perfeetly inconsistent with the ge-. neral line of duty adopted by this conotry,, for it' to sit longer quiet, and ifot.tri endeavour to pre vent its subjects from ioining the standard raiS- - ed by foreign criVonieS' against their•p,rent state.' It was prohibited to levy forces in this country in'favour of Spain, and why should it not also , he prohibited to levy them in . . favour pf her Co lonies 1 His Majesty's Government was' desirous of fulfilling the Treaty which had : been entered into, by Great Britain, and which , had.been, Mild before the .House, tiny following the principles of • strict neutrality, in relation to froth conntries. 7 -, He felt himself, therefore, bound to protekfigaitist* the Proposition of the Hon, and Learned . Geotre-- 'man, aod he. therefore entreated.. the Howe ~to: protect the good faith and honour of the country, which % , ere solemnly pledged for_ the fulfilment of the Treaty. Mr. ELLICE avowed himself favourable to the extkosion of liberty to every part of the, Globe The introduction of the present Bill he had viewed with jealousy. There Were nearly 10,000 British. subjects at present in the service of the Sontlt American Colonies ; did the Noble Lord propose to render the law retrospective, so as to affect them Was it the intention of the Noble Lord to send a fleet to the Pacific Ocean, for Ithe Ole._ pose of taking away th , . 2 or 3000 seamen who had joined the Patriot service ? He had risen tri . state his fixed determination, which was, to op.. pose-the -Bill in every stage during its progress through the House. Lord CASTLEREAGH explained. The Bill was not to have a retrospective effect ; as it 'would appear from the clauses, when the Bill would be 'laid. before the House. _ _ Mr. ELLice aske►l, whether the penalties of the 13il1 %you'd not be inflicte►l on the subjects of Great Britain, who after the Bill woul►l have been enacted. by the Lejslature, might choose to remairiin the service of the Patriots Mr. G. Lana expressed' himself unfavourable to the introduction of the Bill. If his Majesty's Attorney-General 'Chose to - bring in a Bill, it ought to he..a Bill which would he temporary, • and as such specified in. the preamble, than , one tending to aiter'llie law of the country. It ought to extend the operation ,- of the old law rather than introduce a new and. Theold one was a measure of defence - entered into to prevent the subjects of this, realm from enter iag into the service of any Prince, King, tic Potentate, but no foreign State was specified. He would tell the Attorney-General with positive eertaialty, for it was what he had gathered front his statement, that he was about to create a new law—a law which had no fotiodation on either justice or good policy. Ile could not but lament. that this country, which was always considered as the parent muse and the gnardian of liberty, should now he induced to chain down the spirit of liber ty, when it was about to have new subjects in. another freecountry. Mr. WY NN approved of the alteration proposed in the old law, so far as to reduce the penalty on enterbig • ioto foreign service ; because experience shewed, that, although even in the reign of Geo. 11. several individuals entered into the service of Foreign States, the laws remained as a dead let ter. lie also approved of the Bill, hecause he thought it not consistent with the principle of neutrality that ~one party should have an "ad vantage over another. Ile objected, however, to the clause wh1,14 constituted the second offence 'a capital felony.—(" It is trot. capital," from the freasury Bench.)—lt was of little matter.; for it was ,not likely that an individual who had suffered the flue and impiistinment with Which the Court worthd probably visit the Offence,. would again offend against the measure. Colonel DAVlt3s concurred in the 'sentiments of Hon, Friends who had opposed the Bill, and who, in so doing, be was sure, spoke the senti ments of nine-tenths of the people oPLngland.--- If statutes of George 11. Were obnoxious, let them be repealed ;. and let Ferdinand,.. being placed on the same tooting, try what he could do. It was a hard thing tolsee brave Officers, who had bled in the service of their conntry,'now varying no a small pittance in this country, and yet pre yentel,trorp going abroad to promote. the rising rtes America. Sir OHN NEWUOBT . said, bat the Noble Lord Eva Waned so much time result of 'a trial of methationobetween Spain and liereolonies, as the cynic of the negociation lietween Spain And the t sc ht- Or. 0 ' ) le, ttioc bolder' breel• „ how .gree 0; 1 , sii(l to °co the e xcess; ! 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