The Sun. — London, England, 1841-09-29 00:00:00

EVENING SUN address to his constituents, and he would give the House his opinion upon the Poor-iaw. He said if the Poor-law Bill required any attendmentT, he would be ready to consider them. He was decidedly of opinion that every security should be given that it should be administered with tenderness to the poor. If such security did not •exist, h e was desirous that it should 1 - )e provided.— (Hear, hear.) There was one thing which struck him in the taunt cast out by lion. Aleml;ers on the other side, namely, that the dis • Cussion would show the county:i what the opinion of Hon. Members was. - Now, when the division was approaching lust night, . he saw several lion Members who left the House without voting; and he would give a list of them, in Order that their consti tuents might know what their sentiments were.-- ,siCheurs and laughter.) There were the two Hon. Mem , :be4s . -t'or Manchester, who departed previously to the divisitins - •The Hon. Member for Leeds • and the Hon. Member Air •Sal Cord did the same. The lion. Member for Stockportahio did it.—(" No, no," l'roin Mr. Cobden.) Although they Charged his - side of the House with having made use of this question fin' the purpose of exciting the people to carrving their election, he would ask the lion. Member for Indifax if his party had never brought for ward subjects tosexcite-the passions of the people ? He (Mr. Ferrand), had seen a chimney-sweeper with chains about his legs representing a negro slave.--(Laughter.) Ho had seen a scavenger dressed up as a Bishop -o.aughter)—and during the excitement of the Reform Bill, when some extra steam was required to make the people of this country believe the assertions of the •Whigs, it was asserted in the City of Wisitminster, "that a fairer head than Adelaide's had fallen on the block. 7 In the borough of Leeds, during the excitement of the • Reform Bill, there was carried in a procession, (and he begged to- call the attention of the lion. Member for Manchester to this) a flag, on which was painted, the King wearing petticoats and the Queen in breeches—(Loud laughter)—and an axe was stuck in the King's neck ; moreover, he had heard that the son of the late Member for Leeds, who sat on his side of the House during the late Session, proposed three groans for the Queen, and if so. he was the worthy son of a worthy sire. His (Mr. Ferrand's) opinion of this New Poor-law was, that it was unconstitutional in the highest degree, and that it did not afford adequate relief to the poor to which. they wore entitled by the constitution of the country.—(Hear, hear.) It also to a g reat extent dried up the sources of private charity, and gave an ex cuse to Hon. Members of that House as well as the people of the country, not to relieve the poor in the manner in which they were called on to. do. He had received that day a letter from Captain Morris, R.N., who was a stranger to him, but. who had communicated his feelings to him on the subject, which he (Mr. Fer rand) would communicate to the House. He (Captain Morris) suggested the necessity of having a clause introduced into the Bill, giving a right to a pauper fur some years resident in a parish not his own, to receive the relief that would be afforded by his own parish. Captain Morris instanced several cases to prove the necessity for such a clause, one of which was that of a man in the Brid port Union, who had brought up eight children without parochial assistance, except one instance fourteen years ago, - when he had broken his leg, but when he appeared before the Board of Guardians at Bridport he was refused relief, and was obliged to travel sixty-six miles to his parish, although he had formerly received assistance at Charmouth, where he lived. In another Union he mentioned that it was a usual thing for persons from sixty to eighty years of age, to have to travel in winter a distance of seven, eight, or nine miles to the Board of Guardians, and then to stand out of doors in the wet and cold until their turn came, for they were let in one by ono ; after all not receiving more than sixpence or a shilling, and that from a Board of Guardians frequently composed entirely of manufacturers. He (Mr. Ferrand) himself identified the New Poor-law with the factory system. He believed that the labourers in Yorkshire, being so reduced by death and disease, the cotton spinners in Lancashire ,found it impossible to career on their con cerns with those they possessed, and that this Poor-law originated in a deep-laid scheme between the cotton spinners of Lancashire and the Poor-law Commissioners themselves.—(Oh, oh.) He would give his evidence di rectly, for he had asserted nothing that he could not prove. When the Member for Manchester, in language that must have struck deep into the hearts of every man of feeling within those walls, described the misery and dis tress of his constituents, ho had called to his recol lection the description of the " rich man," possessed of the world's goods, clothed in purple and fine linen, and faring sumptuously every day. He refused to the poor the crumbs that fell from his table, and came to the House and charged the landed proprietors of England with being the cause of the distress of these poor wretches. Only two years ago a public dinner was given at Manchester by the cotton spinners, and to give eclat to it they invited the Honourable Member for Cork (Mr. O'Connell), who told them that " the rich man's venison was sweetened by the widow's tear, and his claret dyed with the orphan's blood." At that meeting they said their possessions were sufficient to purchase all the landed estates in England. If so, he (Mr. F.) thought that "property had its duties as well as its rights." - rerad their (the manufacturers') property performed its duties ? Had they, while sending through the country those agitators and lecturers who were paid their salaries by the amount of their foul calumny against the land lords of England—had they, instead of setting the land lords and farmers and tenants against each other, desired these men to inquire into every district where a no bleman or landed proprietor had estates what was their cot:duct to their distressed poor —it would have been found to hold out an example which if they were honest and wise they would have fol lowed.—(Hear, hear) But they excited the people to no effect throughout the country, and then came back and charged the landed proprietors with being the cause of the distress. The manufacturers had made their im mense fortunes by. the sweat of the poor ivan's brow. The Member for Stockport stated that the Corn-laws wore baptized in blood ; he (Mr. F.) told him that every farthing he possessed was baptized in the sweat of the factoll Slave. And when they had glutted the market they east the poor wretches off to die, " unpitied and forlorn;" and when they petitioxed the men Ivlio had ac quired their ws.'altli in A few years through their exer tions to hold out the hand of charity to them, they were refused, while those who refused them came down to that House to deceive them by throwing the blame on th© landed proprietors of Eng land.. 'the Hon. Member then quoted the authority of Ur. Marshall, Dr. Kay, and Mr. Oasticr, on the desti tute condition of the poor in marmfaeturing towns, and Its effect upon the health of the population, and pro ceeded :—He must again repeat that the Hon. Members for Manchester and Salford, and oepecially for Bolton, had expressed the kindest feelings of sympathy for the poor, but lie (Mr. F.) did not want their sympathy, nor did the working classes ; but if the lion. Members had subscribed I,ooel. for their relief, their sympathy would have been of some use. But they did not attempt this. Gentlemen connected with the factories would allow their labourers to pawn their day chethee to get their night clothes, and their night clothes to get again their day clothes, and told them of their distreee without t el thous that they had done any thing to relieve it. —( .hear.) He should have thought them honest if they had shown thee they had subscribed until they would be ruined if they subscribed more ; but they did not say this, nor did lie tell these what lie believed to be true, that th e y had nut subscribed a farthing;.---(011, oh.) The Hoe. Member for Stockport asserted that the land lords had compelled their surplus population to go into the manufacturing districts. He (Mr. 1?) found in the Report of the Poor-law Conitniesieeere for 1835 a letter on the subject, written by E. Ashton, Esq., near Bol ten.. a gentleman who belonged to a class that made great professions Of philantlirOpy -- (0 1 1, ott)--in which tie said, that of the leading features of the now Poor law Bill he most cordially approved, while in sotto, of its details ho feared it wou ld b e f o und practically dee tective. Fall employment in every department was never more easily found than then, since all she mills were in the most active employment. Mr. Ashworth went on to state that there was at the t ime a scarcity of labour in the district, and tie ex ',reseed a wish that labourers should be removed from o ne district to another in order to equalize the demand for employment, and in order to put and end to the pos se, ility of the men turning out when there wee any „ r i e , -ance of which they complained. Again, (7 4,• f rz, in a letter to the Poor-law Coinntissioners, ; 011 . 1p i,j s ied of the difficulty of obtaining labourers in the north England unless a t extravagant pr i ces , an d h e eleo recourniended the removal of labourers front dis trictso t il li t4 a l.l t ei t r, l sr ie hh o oom b f je e t . i s t of these men . was to to district , in order to pin them drive the poor from ate>crtt fu file UirSrn u l bought and soldt ' ) .'ise h tliet the unhappy '')-4"---ers were the cotton spinne y rs t of Coin r,,;ssioners athnet duty of the Right lion. ll ' a th ro ea n ' A lir a e t . th I C woo is! s b l, o Clovernment, who had shown such a sym: head ,s poor in a recent ca s e of destitution and patny wn Lily his care during the rext month,- of de a ath, to ext l'`,l e • he jiving, Responsibility would le. from the dead to the' jiving, six months front the Cona n?. nex t . withdrawn durin g , ti e 11•etrouet—(fmar, hear, and enissioners to the light I °the - Right netenurable Gen• hughter)—and he hoped his trivet. The Right eleuean would duly discharge s eeeh he had recently 'Honourable. Baronet, in aordsp:—" I ate one of' those delivered, used these se from the industry of the who have derived our fortunes hat others who owe their operative classes, and I trust tel as I do, that it is prosperity to the same cause will b aking, on ourselves our duty to relieve the public, I s from which our the charge of a just requital to the c as wi,ihed many 'Prosperity has come."—(Hear, hear.) I:en. G en tl eman opposite would remember those wor ds, . and eat on the principle they recommend e d Let them, if they e eedd, remove the present distr ess with their own his enormous WA : 7slth; and if one of them c ould lay down ~ head upon his allow without saying-, he h: ci d ote h is duty ho en v i e d him not.—(Hear, hear, and late 7 : - nter.) He would vote for the instruction then before the 'rouse, es he had voted for the instruction a lthough he. did not think they had been o tunely leeeieellt forward. The existing PP system was decidedly objection able ; and the landed • proprietors were alone bearing those burdens to which the manufacturers should contri bete their share. Sir JAMES GRAHAM rose and said, dint ho'could assure the house that before he had been informed by the Hon. Member for lenaresborough, who had just sat down, he was painfully aware of the responsibility which attached itself to him upon ' the present occasion; but he could assure that Hon* 'ember that no eagerness of manner and no w re him from endeavouring of declamation could his public duty ; and in the faithfully to discharge consciousness of that duty he should not be lead to abandon a measure, the import - awe of which ho felt so deeply ; and although the sub• pct might require due consideration, and although the law might he susceptible of amendment, yet to the prin ciple of the measure he for one felt th at h e was conscien tiously - pledged—(Hear)—and from that principle he could not recede.—(Hear.) H av i ng stated this much, he hoped that the House would permit limn that an to by the measure which he had that night brought under dis- THE Su N, LONDON, .WEDNESDAY, Sf_IPTEMB_ER 29, 1841. mission, he did not ask any Member of that House to pledge himself to the maintenance of the Poor-law Act in its integrity.—(Flear, hear.) As he had said last night, be would carefully reserve the discussi ,n of all tae details of the measure, nay, even the decision of its principle, until the next Session of Parlia ment ; and all that he now salted the House to do woe to pass a measure for the continuance of the C rnmission without whose superintendence during the next sit months the management of the law would be involved in inextricable diffi culty. He only asked for the inte:•val, in order to enable the Government to consider the shipe in which they would pre sent the Bill to Parliament, with such amendments as they might consider necessary early in the next Session.—( Hear. ) Now, in the first place, he should observe, in reference to what had fallen from the Honourable Member for Knares borough, that what they were that bight discussing, Whether the Poor-law Commission should be continued for the next six months, the statement which he had brought under the consi deration of the House allorijed a proof if they had been accu. rarely detailed—and he was sure the Right Hon. Gentleman believed them to be well-founded—of groat mismanagement among the local authorities. They did not tend to show the necessity of abolishing the Commission ; on the contrary, they went very far to show the danger of leaving the local manage ment uncontrolled, and they appeared to him ( Sir J. Graham) to furnish a strong and striking argument in favour of the ne cessity of some such superintending authority as that of the Commissioners, whose continuance in office he proposed by the Bill then before the House. Passing from the Hon. Member for Knaresborough, he would next turn to the Honourable Gentleman who Lad brought forward the motion then under discussion. He should observe, that it was quite unnecessary upon the part of the Hon. Gen tleman to vindicate the purity of his motives, or the kindness and the generosity which prompted him to bring forward his amendment. He ( sir J. Graham) had always thought the the characteristics of the Hon. Gentleman's conduct, both here and in his native country, were sincerity of purpose and honesty of intention. The Hon. Gentleman need not, therefore, have offered any vindication of the course he was pursuing. But without any offence to the Hon. Member, he (Sir J. Graham) would call the attention of the House to this remarkable fact, that the Hun. Mover of an instruction which would bear more immediately upon England and Wales, was a gentleman not a resident in this country, who could have no adequate experience of the working of the system he sought to internipt, and who also, by an odd coincidence, was not practically conversant with the English system of Poor-laws. It so happened that the Hon. Member represented one of the few places in Eng land, namely, Rochdale, to which the presemt system had not been extended. The Hon. Member had said that to prove a case there was nothing like resting upon facts, and the state ment of particular cases. Now he ( Sir J. Graham) ad mitted that when any one rested upon facts, there was nothing like adducing particular instances. But the Hon. Gentleman, from the very circumstance of his having no personal knowledge of the matter, and his consti tuents having no experience upon the subject, did bring for ward a string of cases, presented, as it appeared to him (Sir J. Graham), in a most suspicious form, not resting upon his personal authority, or coming from parties who, he could be assured as their representative in the House of Commons, were well informed. They were ex parte statements, and being ex parte statements they could not be tested by inquiry, and until a facility of inquiry had been given, such statements were more likely to mislead a popular assembly upon :a ques tion of that kind than any other course which could be devised. The instruction was moved last night upon a secondary portion of that great question, and in an accidental manner; but the instruction moved that evening went to the very essence of the measure itself. What were the two questions which these instructions dealt with ? The power of extending Unions, which was a preliminary step to bringing the Act into operation ; and the second instruction touched upon the power vested in the Commissioners, of refusing relief out of the workhouse, which was the very essence of the Bill. If last . night he had been unwilling to follow the Hon. Member for York in his instruction, because he wished to leave the main question untouched till a future discussion, he was sure the House would at once see that it would that night he impossible for him, without a dereliction of his duty, and without a depar ture from that reserve which his position imposed upon him— it would be impossible for him to follow the Honourable Member in the discussion with which.he had entered. But he might be allowed to ebserve, that without giving any pledge whatever on the part of the Executive Government as to the course which they might hereafter deem it their duty to take, he only asked upon that occasion for the con tinuance of the controlling power vested in the Commission. He would also point out to the House, that under the law as it now stood, no power whatever was placed in the hands of the Commissioners to touch the Gilbert Union Acts, without the consent of the Guardians of the district. Then, again, with respect to the Local Acts ; there was no direct power vested in the Commissioners of superceding these Acts. He admitted that indirectly some interference did take place. But he should add, that he would give no pledge whatever upon the part of the Executive Government, which would go to demonstrate a want of confidence in the Commissioners, or which eouldraiv a prejudice against the principle of the measure which it would be their duty to consider, and to bring under the notice of the House next Session. He did conceive that such a pledge, extracted under the pressure of present opposition, would seriously prejudice the kdue consideration of the measure. He would give no such pledge ; and he did say, that the question at the present time, and under the present circumstances, was a question of confidence. If they believed that the Commis sioners, controlled by the Executive, would act so imprudently as not to merit their confidence for the very short time whicFi would intervene before the measure would be reconsidered upon the responsibility of the Executive, then, he said, let them not deal with the law in the shape of an instruction, but let them refuse the passing of the Bill. But, if they placed that limited confidence in the Government and the Commissioners, then, he said, let them deal with the law itself, but let them re ject ad instructions, and pass the measure before the House.—( Hear, hear, hear.) He knew not whether it would not be inexpedient that he should call the attention of the House, and through the House that of the country, to one or two re markable circumstances which ought not to be .overlooked. First of all, with regard to the Commissioners; the Commis sioners had yielded to public opinion, and had yielded, as he (Sir J. Graham) thought, most judiciously, and quite in ac cordance with the spirit of the original enactment, as he under stood it, in its capability of being adapted to peculiar circum stances. He said that tit,. Commissioners had within the last six weeks marked their sense of the pressure of public opinion, and had taken a step which he moot highly approved of. Com plaints-had been made that the Commissioners had been evad ing the original enactments of the law, by multiplying special orders to an immense extent, and thus evading the provisions of the Act, which required that general orders should be sub mitted to the Secretary of State. Now within the last six weeks the Commissioners had colleetel al their special orders relating to out-door relief into one general order, which had been submitted to the consideration of the Secretary of State, and which had, therefore, been brought under the consideration of the Executive.—( Hear, hear.) In that order they had yielded to public opinion by. relaxing the regulation, prohibiting out of door relief in several most im portant particulars. Out of door relief might new be given, first, in all cases of sudden and urgent necessity. Second, in cases of illness or of accident. '1 hird, in cases in which it might be required to pay the expenses attending the burial of any member of the famuy of the applicant. Fourth, to widows with legitimate children, who were incapable of earning a live lihood; so that widows with legitimate children could receive relief without limit as to the pet iod of their widowhood. Fifth, to the families of persons confined in gaols or other places of safe custody. And sixth, to the wives and children of soldiers and sailors in her Majesty's service. These were most im portant relaxations, and the whole subject of out-door relief was thus brought under the control of the Executive, as by the 16th clause of the Act any general rule of the Commissioners might be altered by an Order in Council. He thought that this was ample security to the public against the law being administered with harshness.—( Hear, hear.) Without meaning at all to reflect on the Hon. Member for Knaresborough, he could not but express his regret at hearing language used which would have the effect, although it had not the intention, of exciting angry feelings in the manufacturing in terest against the agricultural.—(Hear.) He would frankly admit that one of the main sources 4 the prosperity of the country watt the manufacturing interest.—(Cheers.) As an instance of the manlier in which the Commissioners exercised their powers, he would mention the case of the Irish hand-loom weavers who had no settlement. The law empowered the Commissioners to send them hack to Ireland, if they received a single farthing of relief. Now, what had they done ? They had actually sent down an assistant Commissioner to Manches ter, with directions to use: his authority with the Board of Guardians to have relief given to the Irish hand loom weavers, not in the workhouse, but out of doors, and that no attempt should be made to remove them. lie, felt it his duty to remove;any false impressions which might hate gone abroad as to these matters, and he hoped that would plead his excuse for having slightly deviated from the line which he laid down last night not to enter into discussion on the subject. He did not, however, think it his duty to go further, As he had resisted the merriment of the Hon. Member for York last evening, so lie should on the present occasion resist the amendment of the lion. Member for Rochdale, and he trusted the House would not refuse to give him the limited confidence he asked.—( Hear, hear. ) Mr M. PHILIPS would not have troubled the House had is not been for the personal nature of the speech of the Hun. Member for Knarelliorough. If bold declamation constituted argument, then had the lion. Member made a very argumen tative speech. Ile would not allude to what had fallen from that Hon. Gentleman with respect to the manufacturers with any angry feelings. He (Mr. M. P. 1 had never exhibited any angry feeling in that House, and he trusted he never should be tempted to follow the example of the Hon. Gentle man in that respect, but he felt it his duty to reply briefly to the charges which he felt the lion. Member had most unjusti fiably brought against the manufacturing interest.—(Cheers.) The Hon. Member seemed to think that a manufacturer must be a man without feeling, one who sought his own aggrandize ment, regardless of every consideration. If those were the opinions of the Hon Gentleman he ( Mr. Farrand) had lived in the neighbourhood of manufacturers for a number of years without estimating them truly. Me did not mean to contend that the raanufatiturers had no defects, Lilt when he heard them charged with a dereliction of duty to their la bourers, when he heard it stated they had no sympathy for the poor, he must characterise such assertions as a libel upon their ch tractors, which svaa not borne out by teas. He did not know what the amount ex pended for the relief of the poor in Manchester was at present, but he knew that the rate levied for the year ending March 25, jail, was double the amount of the rate levied for the year en:44lsth March, 1840. Now, that did not look as if the manufacturer* were anxious to escape froa their share of the charge for the relief of the poor. He would also, as a proof of the disposition of the nsantrescturers, relate what he per knew to be a fact. He knew ono mantsfactUrer who never worked ahnrt time, until his losses had exceeded the amount of 10,0001. a yek.e. Many o her manufacturers adopted the same system, some of then} plating the scale at 7,0001. a year, and that before they began even tp work short time ; and he could assure the House that none of them turned their labourers out:esf emplyrnent, until their losses were so great that bankruptcy must be the inevitable consequence of their continuing to work ea a less. The manufacturers were not b ac k wi ssi in relieving the distresses of the labouring population amounting to between 3,0001. and 4,0001. a li tZie: t hilaClts ye e ee r n suis t ser 4 ib ill esi in ill} incredibly short space of time, and had been expended hi a manner' vetleEtrnw . the highest credit on those who had the managenient of the eithsPription, and pro hdauacti r e e o h f the cou egertocaL.estanbednewfihtoto, buti n fo b r Jee s t a s c rf t u jiyi bp ri sp ance, must have d i sposed o t f h t e h ir eir cioi l7 h d e d s, ing. T t h h e eir mo i a n tn ou i r t a u b r l e e , ill ' WI ' personallyinstances, to'hirn (Mr. Arark Phillips) sion last e ening on He had been advisedly absent from and, liem the motions .Member had entitled • re l a ting to the separatian of man anti wife, because Manchester, before the aduPt d ' i d d i n n o t wish to condemn the a u s hi t o h h a h t ni s t y i s h te e m en h i e : a l m be e e d n a, i p ra ctice ; and also be having ssrious 40014 as to the practicability of ect. With respect to the general measure, he ha d never nastily to commit himself s hrunk from avowing h i s o p inion cabrercyi:lnfsgoenotuhte s t u h b e j clause, he slid not wish pro ductive of great berrefit—(Chears) — i algreater o pportunities of that in its general operation, the Poor-law re B pa ii r l ti li c audlabrleyen inthe agrienlsural districts, where he studyingßart.tbe I s i operation . i t i s gutost o p p 0 be made a party question ; hp had himself sit H ion e . the subject at the last election . liil ttr i Vt? 5 felt that this ought not to been attacked on wohlHuaelidnot offer the Right Hon. I 3p , no csls not testimony to the 000 d effects of the .a:ii, .. ~.. .. to be drive!) fr"orn his purpose by idle deeiawatumf stood ilit , o bear his From his knowledge of the workings of the law,he thought it I might require some alterations. The Right Hon. Baronet had pointed out soveral most important relaxations, and which would, no doubt, meet with general approval. He thought it important that these modifications should be introduced into the new law, because the law, as it was now administered, was not, in tact, the law of 1834, but that law modified by the orders of the Commissioners. Now, he was desirous of seeing those modifications introduced into the new law, in order that persons might see what the law really was, and he thought the time of the House could not be more profitably employed than in reconsidering the Bill. Mr. WAKLEY understood that the Executive Government adhered to the principle of the existing law.—( Hear, hear. ) The Right Hon. Baronet, with a candour which slid him credit, admitted that such was the fact ; and it therefore appeared that the Whig aristocracy and the Tory aristocracy were pledged to the existing law. '1 he Right lion. Baronet the Member for Tamworth, when. on the 16th of the month, he had made a statement to the House that it was his intention to propose a fiat for continuing - the Commission for six months, had given no indication of his intention of maintaining the existing law. He (Mr. Wakley) had put a construction on that conduct which circumstances had not justifies'. He had been deceived, and the causes were simple and clear. Although the Right Honourable Baronet had ac ceded to the principle of the Bill in the last Session, yet he had then proposed to continue the Commission for five years instead of ten, as proposed by the Noble Lord ; he natu rally thought that as the Right Hon. Baronet had not proposed this Session to continue the Commission for five years, he had yielded to the expression of public opinion against the law, and when he saw that the Right Hen. Baronet the Member for Kent and the Noble Lord the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lan • caster, both of whom were opposed to several most important provisions of that law, were Members of the Cabinet, he thought such a supposition not unnatural, notwithstanding the presence in the Cabinet of the Right Hon. Baronet the Mem ber for Dorchester and the Noble Lord the Member for North Lancashire, both of whom were Members of the Government which had originally introduced th 3 measure. The Attorney and Solicitor-General had neither of them ever uttered one word in favour of the present law ; therefore he felt that he was justified in forming the opinion he had done. He had ex pected that a different course of conduct would have been pursued ; he had been deceived, but the deception he had laboured under would be useful to him, because it would enable him to understand the position which he, as an inde pendent Member, occupied, and the course which the people ought to pursue. If the Hon. Member for Rochdale pressed his motion to adivision, he should divide with him. He had felt that the motion of the Hon. Member for York last evening was s• imperfect, that he could not vote for it, for he doubted if it could be carried into effect. He, however, entirely differed with the Hon. Member for Rochdale as to the propriety of pressing every motion to a division, and thus forcing Members to express an opinion, for he really . thought that Members ought to have an opportunity of investigating before they were called on to decide. He had frequently left the House with out voting, because he really had not known on which side he ought to decide.—(" Hear, hear," from Mr. Hawes.) The Hon. Member for Lambeth said " Hear, hear." Now, if he (Mr. Wakley) possessed the sagacity of the lion. Member for Lambeth—the acuteness of conception of that Hon. Member— he might, perhaps, without difficulty be able to determine at once upon the most abstruse subjects.—( Hear, hear. ) He (Mr. Wakley), however, was not so highly gifted, and he was sorry fur it.—(Loud cheering and laughter. ) He understood the principles of the law to be this—that it took from the rate-payers of England the power to administer their own funds, and placed it in the Commissioners of Somer set-house.—( Hear, hear.) That was the principle of the law, and he did not think that human ingenuity could devise a worse one. But the Member for Bath hit on something worse. He (Mr. W.) regretted he was not present, though he could not regret he had not submitted his proposition to the House.—(Hear, hear.) He (Mr. W.) could not conceive anything worse than that the interests of the people should be placed at the mercy of a Secretary of State.—( Hear, hear. ) l'he Right Hon. Baronet (Sir J. Graham) would understand that he was not referring to him.—( Hear, hear.) He was only referring to the principle of such a proposition ; and of all men in the world who could make such a proposition, he thought the Hon. and Learned Member for Bath would be the last, because when he advocated the case of the Canadians, he told them what he experienced from the Secretary of State, and the Noble Lord the Member for North Lancashire must bear the fact in recollection. He (Mr. Roebuck) said he could get nothing but injustice—nothing but insult from the Secretary of State, and that he had been spurned from the door. Could the lion. and Learned Gent. suppose that more courtesy would be shown by the Secretary for the Home Department than by the Secretary for the Colonies ? or that he would be more humane or more ready to lend his ear to the complaints which would be made to him ? However cruel the decision of a Home . . Secretary may be, he would be sure to find a majority of his colleagues to agree with him. He now came to the discretionary power of the Commissioners—to the leading principle of the law. There were two subsidiary accompaniments to the law, by the first of which the poor were deprived of the application for re • lief, and by the next were tortured while in receipt of that re lief. These were the principles that were carried into effect by the Commissioners. He should like the House to understand the question. The mobility and the middle classes had a law for their protection. They had the Judges of the land to ad minister the law. But what was done with regard to the poor ? Did they receive protection? They had by this law outlawed the poor. He defied any Member to say the poor had any law for their protection, as under the law of Elizabeth.— ( Hear, hear.) That law gave the poor a right to relief.—( Cheers.) The House ought not to forget the origin of that law. They should not forget that the poor before that law had religious houses and monasteries to sup port them ; and that the monks were ever ready to extend the hand of charity and benevolence to the suffering poor.— (Hear, hear.) But when the change in ecclesiastical pro• perty took place, then that noble Act cf Elizabeth, the brightest of her reign, came into operation—( Hear, hear) —and it gave the poor the same right to relief as the Noble had to his property under the law.—( Cheers.) What was the case now ? The poor were placed under the tyranny of Somerset-house, and had not the power to administer their . . , . own funds. Thank God 1 he was not in the House when that law was enacted. He would ask Hon. Gentlemen who supported this law how they would like to be placed in a similar position with regard to their own property.— (Hear, hear.) How would they like to be obliged to go to a Government authority, and be in doubt as to bow they would be received—whether with kindness or otherwise ? He (Mr. W.) said the poor had a right to the protection of the law, though the two aristocratic parties said the poor should be deprived of that protection. Was that Conservatism? Was that the way to maintain the institu tions of the country? Was that the way to uphold the mo narchy and render more secure the property of the country?— (hear, hear.) He said such was an unwise course—that it was p:egnant with danger, and could not be persevered in with impunity. He declared, if it was resolved to abide by that law, that in his opinion the face of the country would be stained with blood. He was intimate with the feeling of the poor on the subject, and he knew their sentiments, and that they considered it an impious law—an Anti-Christian law— ( Hear)—and had its origin in selfishness—the vilest feeling of the human mind. The Right Hon. Baronet said the Commis sioners had relaxed several rule ;with regard to out-door relief; but may not the local guardians of the poor find many other rules which may be relaxed, if they had the power of doing its? Why should the discretionary power be taken away from those who lived in the locality of the poor ?—( Hear, hear.) He was, therefore, against the continuance of the Act, though at the same lime of such importance did he consider the interests of the poor, and so wound op were those interests with the welfare of the nation, that he thought a Court of Appeal ought to be established for the benefit of the poor. He considered that a Court of Appeal ought to be established, and a man of character appointed its Judge, and, having done this, that a poor man's Advocate ought to be appointed. The Queen had her Advocate, tied her Attorney and Solicitor-General, and he did not see why the poor should not also have their Advocates. —( Hear, laser.) He hoped the Right Hon. the Home Secre tary would consider the subject. The poor at present were under no law but that of the Commissioners, and he would show they were unfit to be entrusted with that law. In page 29 of their Report for December, they say, " They consider the receipt of public relief as the due of the poor man." But surely if a law had been passed which entitled the poor to re lief, the Commissioners had no right to use such language. Could men using such language be fit to execute the powers entrusted to theta ?—(Bear, hear.) They must have misunderstood the feeling of the House on the matter. He now came to the subject of medical relief, and he found that in the old times such relief was administered to the poor in his own parish. His neighbours, who knew his worth and wit • nessed his deserts, administered to the unfortunate without ap plying tot the Commissioners—( Cheers)—and if they wished for the happy days of Old England again, theywould resort to the old mode of administering medical relief. ( The Hon. Gen tleman here read a letter from a gentleman regarding the Raseworth Union, stating that the medical practitioner of that union had to attend two districts, consisting of twelve different parishes, and including a population of 12,410 persons, and that in visiting his districts he hail to pass through a parish of 3,000 persons, which had a meilittal gentleman of the highest respectability.) Was it a fit state of things that the medical attendant should have to go a distance of eight or nine miles in cases of inflammation and fracture, where life or death was consequent on delay ? Could it be pretended that a suitable remedy was not to be found for such a state of things ? The Act produced the evil, anti was no remedy to be found? There were abuses, it was true, in the f• rmer system, but they could be put an end to. The Right FlOll. Baronet was aware that the subject had been frequently investigated, and in the Second Report of a Committee that inquired into the matter, Sir Astley Cooper gave evidence (and whoever knew(him must be aware of the value of Isis opinion) against the system of tenders, and told him (Mr. Wakley), in private, that it was nothing less than murder. He said a mare disastrous state of things could net exist for the poor. The Right Hon. Baronet was aware of the calculations that were made of the expense per head. The Comm ssioners, in their Seventh Report, partly agreed with what he ('lr. Wakley) thought would be the proper remedy. lie considered that all the re cipients of relief should be entered in a list, and so much per case paid to the medical attendant. What he took the liberty of proposing to the Government was, that the medical orders should be made out, and placed in the hands of certain persons in every parish—in the hands of the clergyman, the churche arder., the overseer, and the relievin g officer—and that a person, who was admitted by the authorities re be entitled to medical relief, on snaking application for an order, and receiving it, should ,be allowed to take it to any practitioner whom he might desire to w tend him. He would thus have an opportunity of taking it to the_. practitioner who lived nearest to his home, and in whom he could place the most confidence, and that without the addition of a single farthing of expense to the parish. Under the present system it frequently happened that a poor person, who was afflicted with sickness, had to send some miles before he could obtain medical assistance, Such a system involved a sacrifice of human suffer ins, and tended to aggravate the sufferings of the poor; and he was convinced that if the House would only attend to the evil it would not long be suffered to continue. A case had occurred last week, where a medical man, not one attached to the union, was sent for to visit the father of seven children. When he arrived he found him suffering from a disease of the lungs, wi.h but faint hopes of recovery. On being asked why he had sent for the medical man in question and not the union doctor, the patient replid that the foemee lived at a distance of seven miles, and that he had no money to pay a messenger. He (Mr. Wakley) was convinced this instance was only a specimen of thousands. He did hope that the Right Hon. RargllPt Weeld take the subject into his serious coosideration. He calcolated that under tits nrcposed eiteratiort the expense would he fenrn 6s. fd. te t 9s. ash*, Nqw, with respect to the size of the unions. It had been stated by many Ho nourable Members that whore the unions were small the law worked much better than where they were large—that the poor man could make application for relief more easily, and that the eireunistences of each case were better known. Then, with respe t e,t to thg Cliwdiana,del I qt Gentlenten syho called themselves Reformers—for instance, did the Hen. Member for Lambeth—approve of the mode of eleeticin? How were they elected? In the first place, there was no public meeting. There was a quelling of popular spirit at once. What was the system of voting ? 'The poor occupant of premises who paid the rates gave one vote, whilst the absent owner of the same property gave six. In one electiqn one mess had nqt in I ; goo proxies. potter the old law every rate h • payer ad , a cote—lle sYs s s 'sicealsing Of thQ praCtiCe under the Act of Elizabeth before the modern innovations.—(Laughter.) It was an innovation when Sturges Bourne's Act passed that ; House; still the power of voting was restricted to the occu piist, This iFst f however was a more scandalous innovation— it was a greater infringement of the rights of the rate-payers li had been said that the medical arrangements were not per fected What, he would ask, had been perfected ? They had an authority established for the purpose of securing uniformity ; it having been stated that the ancient practice was one of ex treme diversity ; but he looked in vain for uniformity. He had oven heard it stated that the first object of the Bill was to increase the independence and raise the wages of the labourer; because it was said that if they could not get good wages, the poor would fall bad, upon the workhouse. Of course the first inference trom such language was, that these workhouses would be very excellent places, containing every thing to gratify the heart and soul of the poor labouring man, and if the Commissioners had really provided good accommodation for. the able-bodied. man, who did nut obtain fair remunerating wages, he would have acknowledged that to he a benefit. He admitted that in a locality where wages were high, the workhouse ought to have no charm for the labourer. By belonging to a club, or by saving his money, he would avoid the necessity of ever ap plying for relief. But the case was very different in a locality where wages did not exceed 6s. or 7s. a week. In such cases it was most unjust not to provide satisfactory relief. On this point he thought very grave charges might be brought against the Commissioners. He begged the House to attend for a moment to what was contained in two dietary tables in refe rence to the weekly allowance of food. In the London Union the weekly allowance of bread was I leoz., in the Cirencester 98oz. ; in the London Union each man had 21oz. of beef or mutton ; in the Cirencester Union each man had soz. of bacon. In London the vegetables for each man were 2ilbs. ; in Cirencester 61bs. of potatoes. In London soup four pints a week ; in Cirencester two pints. In London I4oz. of cheese ; in Cirencester 7oz. In London 10i pints of milk porridge ; in Cirencester seven pints of gruel. In London 16oz. of suet pudding ; in Cirencester none. In London eleven pints of beer ; in Cirencester not a drop. Was that uniformity ?—( Hear, hear.) If it were, give him London.—( A laugh.) Such a state of things was disgraceful to those who administered the law. What did he find ap pended te the two dietary tables? At the bottom of the Ci rencester table he found that infirm persons, and those above 70 years of age, were to be allowed one ounce of tea with milk, seven ounces of sugar, and three and a half ounces of meat in stead of gruel, and twice a-week the men fourteen ounces, and the women twelve ounces of pudding. Children nailer twelve years of age were to be dieted at discretion ; the sick at the discretion of the medical man ; the refractory were to be allowed sixteen ounces of bread and water per diem. In the London Union for supper one pint of gruel might be allowed. instead of two ounces of cheese; to the women, one-half pound of sugar ; to the sick and infirm such wine as the medical man should direct. Then followed an instruction that roast beef or veal should be allowed at Easter and on Whitsunday—one would imagine that provision was being made for au alderman —(laughter)—and roast-beef and plum-pudding on Christmas Day. In Kensington, the Guardians had been obliged to pay 561.0ut of their own pockets. The Commissioners would not allow the item. It was also stated that weights and measures should be provided, and to it the paupers should have access at all times, in order to satisfy themselves that they were sup plied with the proper allowance. Now, what was the effect of such an unequal system ? The effect was to prevent the honest labourer who was really distressed from applying for relief. Why should not the House take upon itself the responsi • bility of settling the dietary table 9 Let them determine for themselves how the poor should be fed, and not sanction a system so full of injustice. There was another point to which he begged to call the attention of the House. A practice existed which he might as well notice, for the information of the younger Members, of introducing, at the end of the Session, little Bills, merely for powdering or shaving a mouse, or some thing of that kind.—( Laughter. ) Some discussion arose on the subject, and if there were any objectionable point, it was struck out, and sent tip to the Lords. When it returned from the Lords, that very thing had been restored, and, it passed in its original shape. Now, there was a Bill of this kind passed at the end of the Session of 1835 ; it did not receive the Royal Assent until the 9th of September. It was a Bill au thorising the Commissioners to sell parish property. He re collected perfectly well that he understood it to relate to parish workhouses, and to the ground on which they stood. What had been done tinder that Bill? Why, all the small tene ments belonging to parishes, as well as the workhouses, hadbeen brought under the operation of the hammer. It appeared to be the intention of the Commissioners that the poor should have no place of dwelling except the workhouse, and these tenements were to be razed from the ground. The transfers of property, ac cording to their own acknowledgment, already amount to 3,900. He thought it would turn out that a very large portion of the property sold would be found to be of the latter description. He believed that a vast amount of property consisting of tene ments, belonged to the poor. He would not say that there was any trust—any written trust—but he had no doubt that custom had created a trust, arid that the property belonged to the poor. Now, what had the Commissioners said on the subject in their Report of 1839 ? Why, that a large amount of property, consisting for the most part of small cottages and tenements, had been dis posed of, the greater part of which had been represented as being dilapidated and ruinous. It appeared to him to be the object of the Commissioners, that parishes should have the property to be called parish property, that there should be no tenements belonging to the parish, because, if there was, the poor would make application to dwell in them, they being anxious that all the paupers should be sent to the workhouse. Supposing these tenements had been retained, and not sacri ficed, under the present law it appeared to him that they might have been appropriated to useful purposes. They were trying by their law to force the labourer into the practice of virtue—the Bill was, in fact, a measure of coercion against the poor. Now, he would ask, did they not think that they might, without inconvenience to themselves, bring another principle into operation ? Did they not think that there was another mode than coercion to improve the human mind ? —( Hear, hear.) He would have Hon. Members weigh the subject well, because he thought a little reflection would in duce them to adopt another line of policy.—(Hear, hear.) He was of opinion that much of the profligacy and vice of the people was owing to no rewards being given for good conduct. —( Hear, hear.) Would it be costly for the parishes to ap propriate those tenements that had been sold to deserving men in their old age ? Would it not be more gratifying to see them so placed there than to send them to gaols miles distant? —(Hear, hear.) He was convinced, if they were to hold out rewards to the labourer, they would soon see a new race of men in the different parishes of the country. He regretted that the Executiee Government had determined to adhere to the principles of the existing law, principles which, he would venture to say, were obnoxious to the best feelings of human nature, and dangerous to the institutions of the country. In his opinion there was no portion of the law that deserved commen dation, and if Hon. Members would only visit the cottages of the poor instead of sitting at Boards of Guardians, in a very short period they would enter that House with widely-different views with respect to the Poor-laws.—(Hear, hear.) He was satis fied that Hon: Members were not aware of what was passing in the minds of the labourers with regard to this odious statute. He apologised to the House for having detained it so long. He had thrown out statements which he trusted the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Dorchester would take into his serious consideration, as he was convinced the f ee li ngs o f th e p oor were growing more violent every day on the subject of the Poor laws. When he stated that he did not speak as a visionary, but from what he had actually seen, no Administration would stand in this country who supported the Poor-laws, be cause the millions would not endure it.--( Hear, hear.) Look ing at the whole subject, he believed the difficulties connected with them would be overcome if the House would go hack and legislate upon the just principles of the statute of Eliza beth. They ought to approach the subject in a kindly and Christian spirit, and ought not to be governed by a dogmatic H e ar, hear, hear.) The flaw had been intro duced by utilitarians, who, he had no doubt, would, if alowed to grind the bones of the poor, and make them manure if they thought it would enrich the land of the country.— (Cries of " No, no.") Let them legislate in a proper spirit, and he would venture to say that the greatest good would he effected. Mr. WARD would 'make no apology for addressing the House after the extraordinary speech tkat had been addressed to the House by the Hon. Member who had just sat down. He was not one of those who was disposed to sit quietly under the imputation of giving a vote from selfish motives, neither was he disposed to abandon a measure which he thought a good one, merely because the Hots. Member had chosen to state that it originated in wickedness and fraud ; still less was he inclined to adoptthe principles laid down by the Hon. Member, who was aintudaeious in his statements as he was cowardlyoin his 'political' acts.—(Hear, hear.) The speech of the Hon. Member surprised him the more, because upon the former oc casion he told the House that he had arrived at the conclusion that the measure was one of the deepest importance, and ought to be discussed with calmness—( Hear, hear)—and yet he had come doWn that night and accused.those who supported the measure of doing so from selfish motives. He had also told them that they were prepared to grind the bones of the poor if they thought that would enrich the land. Now what, he would ask, were the accusations against the Bill which the Hon. Member had substantiated? What was the first ground of attack ? Why, the Hon. Member had told them, in the first place, that the law was for the purpose of taking from the rate payers the management of their funds. It was f or no suc h pur pose ;it was to restore the true principles of the noble Act of Elizabeth.—( Hear.) Ilad the Hon. Member never heard muter the old law of men and women dragging carts and violating every human law, and indulging themselves in every species of idleness, without a single motive to good:conduct ? The Hon. Member then said that the law put the poor out of the pale of con-titutional rights. It did no such thing; but it established a direct responsibility from the Poor-law Commissioners to the Government, and from the Government to that House—there was not a single violation of the law that could not, under its provisions, be immediately brought before that House. The Bill was admitted to be the best Bill that had passed since the time of the Reform Bill, and he believed that its provisions had been productive of great good in the country. One of the guardians said, if the boards of guardians had more power, all the evils of the old system would instantly fol low. He said they would have a Nlr. Wakley at every bo ird, and they would soon have the union-house burned over their heads. It was within his own knowledge, that in some parishes the new law had acted most beneficially upon the habits, and feelings, and situation of the working classes, Then as to medical relief, he felt bound to believe the Hon. Member had not read the Bill, for the 2d clause provided for every case of sudden emergency that could possibly happen. Then as to the dietary tables of the union. He would not defend tho tables of the London Unions. He wished they could afford to give their poor beer and plum-puddings, but so long as the labourer could not afford to feed himself upon such diet, it was impos sible that they should do so. It would be the worst principle that could be laid doWn, that the rate-payers should maintain the paupers in the workhouses in a greater degree of comfort, and in a superior situation; than that of the labourer. He had heard with much pleasuie the manly statement made by the Right Hon. Baronot , the Secretary for the Home Deparment. It did him much honour, and he had gone as far as a person in his situation could, He highly approved of the course pro posed to be pursued-by the Government, and would give them his cordial support. Considering the manner in which the Right Hon. Baronet had spoken out, and the manner in which he had been attacked, he would have considered himself as un worthy of his seat in that House had he not come forward and taken his share of the odium attempted to be thrown upon the supporters of the law. Then with respeet to what had fallen from the Hon. Member for Knareshosoug,h. he did not like to say much, for the Hon. Gentletisass was but a young Member, but he would say that hp admired and respected a man who backed his opinipso by his votes, and did not me a nly skulk out of the House whe n t h e ques ti on was about to be tested by a division. He would on l y say , further, that he disbelieved that all the humanity wa s confined to one class, and the Honourable Member would find as much distress and misery among the underpaid agricultural labourers of Bucks and Wilts as among any of the manufaeturinis districts in the country. He trusted when the measur e was brought forward in the next Session of Parliament, both for the dignity of the 11(1114i8 and the welfare of the poor', the whole tplestion teeing meet with that calm de liberation gOod s toniper that was duo to one of such im mens,e magnitude and importance. Mr. S. WORTLEY' was most anxious tQ approach that last night, he calmimportant isubject The in‘truetion wh,ich W4.s moved thought, opened vestson ryas absolutely ne cessary. a great principle, and his opinion was that into eth the e e uv‘thmeolset calms:mess, for a clear and he saw no objection: aild i f r es t e d t o a it was mere for the dignity of the Hous e, as we l l as for the piecemeal but as a w h o l e . B u t the instrnetiors !leaved now, that no more unions s h ou ld b e fornWl, At least until they knew benefit of the que s i on , th a t it should not be discussed by what the new system wa r to be, was in his opinion one that co i v a ld sion n e o r t s, in at: 'n 4to that impede the proceedings of the Corn m division, he would have weed for it had it stood alone. But to that part of the instruction which went to forbid the Com missioners interfering to prevent out-door relief throughout the winter, that would be an interference with the law which he could not approve of, nor could he vote for it. He hat heard with much pleasure the speech of the Secretary for the Home Department; it proved to him that he would watch over the working of the law in a spirit of humanity—( Hear, hear) — and it was evident that he would give way to the fully ex pressed wishes of the country that the law should be amelio rated. He thought it was necessary in order that he should not be misrepresented on either side, to state very shortly what his opi nions on that important subject were. He had at all times scrupu .ously abstained from party topics when discussing that robject. The Hon. Member for Halifax last night talked of the war cry made of the Poor-laws during the late election, but he would ask, was there not another war-cry of "No Corn-laws," and " Cheap Bread ?" He believed the war-cry of "No Corn laws " and "Untaxed food" was made by parties to support a Government which had proposed a tax of Bs. on corn, and which had brought forward measures, after having done nothing for five years, which were calculated to produce the most bane ful effects upon the trade and commerce of the country.— ( Hear, hear.) The Hon. Member for Liskeard had last night, in a speech which he meant to be facetious, charged him (Mr. S. Wortley) with having out of doors denounced the Poor aws, and when he had come into the House, sitting down quietly, without offering any objections to the measure, lest he should embarrass the present Government. He trusted he might be allowed to state that he had never said anything cut of that House which he was not ready to maintain in his place in Par liament. He had not denounced the Three Devil Kings of So merset-house—he had said nothing of bastiles, but he had pointed out certain defects in the law, which he concluded should be altered, and which he would use his best efforts to have amended.—( Hear, hear.) He could not say less upon the matter, and he hoped the House would pardon him for hav ing said so much. He would now say a word with regard to the power of the Commissioners, and without going the length of finding fault with the constitution, of the board, he must be allowed to say, that, notwithstanding the control exercised over it by the Secretary of State, the power entrusted to the Commissioners was too extensive and almost unconstitutional. It was a power which should not be entrusted to them one mo ment longer than could be avoided, and nothing would give him greater gratification than to see them recurring to that great principle of local self-government which was so intimately bound up with the Constitution of the country.—( Hear, hear. ) I That principle had been recognised in various States on the Continent, and America, and no one could deny its importance and value.—(Loud cheers.) Under these circumstances he did not think they were bound to confer these unconstitutional powers upon the Com missioners one moment longer than was necessary. One word now with regard to the manner in which the law was administered by these gentlemen ; and one of the great ob jections that struck him was the great extent of the unions.— ( Loud cheers.) He would take the case of the parish of Alarylebone, which Lord Althorp, in that House, had said was of such an extent that it would be quite absurd to form it into a union with any other parishes.—( Hoar, hear..) The Lord Chancellor, in the House of Lords, had also observed, that ,unless the Commissioners were deranged, they would never think of forming these large and populous parishes into unions. Hon. Members knew that at the present moment they were forming unions in the North' of England of vast extent. There was Manchester, which in the last Report of the Commissioners it was stated, was about to be formed into a union. It contained a population of 140,000, and one would suppose that it was so large as to be almost unmanage able if not divided. Instead of doing that, however, they had added eleven townships, containing a population of 22,000, to that of Manchester --(Loud cheers.) He thought that in taking such a step they were entirely mistaking the spirit and intent of the Act of Parliament. The next point he should refer to was the workhouse system, and he would merely repeat what he had stated in his address, namely, that he did not think the workhouse should be made an ingredient in relief in all cases, but only in cases where persons were unwilling to work, and who were thrown upon the charity of the public. He must say, that when the subject was first discussed in that House, he understood that it was not intended that the Act should be compulsatorily introduced in every part of the country.—( Hear, hear.) Lord Althorp bad said that it would not be a part of the duty of the Commis sioners to include all the parishes of a county in unions—they should have the power of terming unions where they deemed it proper, but there was nothing in the Act which made the formation of unions imperative.—(Hear, hear.) Now, in the part of the country with which he was connected, there was no single class of the population which ,desired the introduction of the Bill ; and, he thought, under such circumstances, they were entitled to exemption. The only argument he had heard in favour of the introduction of the measure was uniformity, but although that might be a good plea in some cases, he thought it extremely injudicious to effect so great a change, and one so repulsive to the great bulk of a population, upon such a pretence.—( Hear ' hear.) There was another subject on which he wished to offer a few remarks. He meant the bastardy clause. If they looked to the argument of the Commission of Inquiry, on which was founded that part of the law, they would see it was wholly de void of meaning. The Commission stated that the bastardy cases were a great source of hardship ; but that the object of the law was not to punish but to prevent bastardy. Now, that sounded a very plausible sentence ; but if they considered it, they would find that when this Commission said the law was not to punish, but to prevent that crime, it was saying what had in fact no meaning at all. The argument of the Commissioners on this head fell to the ground, and was no support whatever to the provisions which they recom mended to be introduced into the Bill. His conviction was, that the operation of that clause—not, perhaps, in the agri cultural districts with which he. was not acquainted, and could not, therefore, speak of them—but in the manufacturing dis tricts the operation of that clause was in the highest degree pernicious. It was, in fact, considered to be a free charter for the crime, which had greatly increased in consequence of that clause. When the Legislature were dealing with that part of the subject, it was but fair that they should consider the dif ference that existed between the states of society in the manufacturing and agricultural districts. In the latter, the young female was, in some degree, fortified against temptation, by reason of the secluded part of the coun try in which she resided. In the manufacturing districts, she was thrown upon her own conduct at a very early age. Those were a few of the principal points on which he wished to make known his opinions. In the course they were likely to adopt respecting this Bill, he thought they ought, as had been well expressed by an Hon. Member, take as their guide anxiety and tenderness for the poor. As to the accusation of some Hon. Gentlemen respecting himself and others, of their taking up that question to serve an occasional purpose, it was an imputa • tion that nothing they had done could justify. Mr. YORKE rose amidst cries of " Question, question," " Divide, divide." He said he rose not for the purpose of answering the Hon. Member for Yorkshire. He did not mean to trespass on the House. He should wish to say, however, that, touching the speech of the Hon. Member for Yorkshire, he had heard a portion of it to which he readily acceded. There was a second portion of it to which he would say nothing, and a third portion he had not exactly a facility of understanding. But what he (Mr. Yorke) wished to call attention to was this, that since the meeting of Parliament statements had been made to the House which were either true or false. If the statements were true, they should be instantly attended to ; it false, they should be instanly exposed as such. He alluded to the statements concerning the vast distress said to exist in the country—not that sort of distress which was incidental, and he feared inevitable in every state, but that sort of distress that in a peculiar degree formed an epoch in human misery. If the statement were true, they ought to relax those laws which under happier circumstances might have a happier effect. So thinking he should give his support to that clause which gave to Guardians en the Board an opportunity of assisting the immediately pressing cases of misery. Colonel SIBTHORP begged to state, in answe to the Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Ward), that he was happy to in form him that in the very parish in which he (Colonel Sib thorp) resided, and in several other parts of the county of Lincoln, the independent labourer had such wages given him— namely, from 12). to 155. per week—that he could afford to have meat oftener than on Christmas Day. if the Hon. Gen tleman would do him (Colonel Sibthsrp), though he differed from him in politics, the honour to visit him—( Laughter)— he would show him the truth of what he had stated. With respect to the immediate question before the House, though Ise gave credit to the Right Honourable Gen • tlarnan the Secretary for the Home Department for the course he adopted since the Govern ment meant to adhere to the principle of the hill, yet he (Colonel Sibthorp) had ever opposed the Bill, and would con tinue to do so. He was ever opposed to Commissions, and he would continue his hostility to this. The House then divided, when the numbers were-- For Mr. Crawford's motion... 49 Against it l3l Majority ... —S2 On the re-Omission of strangers we found Mr. SHARNIAN CRAWFORD moving that it be an in struction to the Committee to insert a clause to the effect that the Commissioners should not have the power of disallowing out-door relief when granted by Boards of Guardians. Mr. WAKLEY, who rose amidst loud cries of " Divide," said that the Hon. Member for Sheffield had attributed words to him which he did not use. 'l•he Hon. Member had also used language which might perhaps be allowed in the latitude of debate, which ha was by no means desirous to restrict, but the Hon. Member for Sheffield was the last person who had a right to read hire a lecture upon cowardice in not voting as boldly as he spoke—( Hear, hear)—for, at the commence ment of the Session, on the motion of the Honourable Mem ber for Rochdale, the Member for Sheffield was the first to , take a cowardly flight—( Hear, hear, and great laughter.) If the conversation which that Honourable Member stated as having taken place between him and a member of the Board of Guardians did actually take place—( Hear, hear, and laughter) —it was incumbent on him (Mr. Ward) to give the name of the guardian —(A laugh.) The Hon. Member reported the guardian to have expressed the wish of the board to be that they should have no r esponsibility, but should have the Com missioners to fall hack upon. What a valiant crew I—(Great laughter.) For his own part he was willing to leave the mat ter as it was.—(Hear, hear.) But he would say, that if the House wished the guardians to do their duty, it would make them responsible 'an penalties for the discharge of their duties to the poor.—( Hear.) Mr. WARD had not intended to use the words " political cowardice" in an offensive or unparliamentary sense, and if he was supposed to have done so, he could only express his deep ,•egret.—( Hear, hear.) He did not think he should be jus tified in giving the name of the guardian with whom he had had the conversation alluded to by the Hon. Member opposite. After a few words from Mr. DARBY, the House divided, when the numbers were— For Mr. Crawford's m0ti0n....... 32 Against it 146 Majority The Bill then went through Committee. On the motion that the Bill be reported, IL. FIELDEN, who was inaudible, put a question, in an swer to which, Sir J. GRAHAM said that he would move the third read ing on Friday. On the Motion of Sir G. Clerk, the Exchequer Bills Bill, and the Funded Exchequer Bills Bill, were severally read a first time. The House then adjourned at Half-past Eleven o'Clock. COLBURN'S NEW MONTHLY MAGAZINE.- EDITED BY THOMAS Hoon, ESQ.—The October Number of Colburn's New Monthly Magazine and Rumorist, edited by Thomas Hood, Esq., contains the yellowing interesting articles : —Memoir of the late Theodore Hook, Esq., with a striking likeness—A Tete-a-Tete with the New Editor--A Sketch off tie Road, by Thomas Hood, Esq.—Graduates and Under- Graduates ; or, The Proctor's Note-Hook, by the author of Peter Priggins." No. I.—Phineas Quiddy ; or, Sheer In dustry, by John Poole, Esq., author of " Paul Pry." Chapter VII. Sheer Industry prospers. A Digression for the Benefit of Younger Sons. A very Confidential Communication. Chapter VIII. Ingenuousness versus Cunning. Chapter IX. A Touching Incident. Our Hero's disinterested Concern for a " Maiden all Forlorn." A Magnificent Proposal Rejected. Chapter X. The Reading of the Will. A Job's Comforter — Fathers and Sons, Chapter XX., by Theodore Hook, Esq.— A Tate of a Trumpet, by Thomas Hood, Esq. (conclude d ) — A Visit to Gerbe, by the Hon. and Rev. Charles Bathurst — The Country Town, by .Mrs. Gore—A Reminiscence of an Irish Squire—Foreign Sporting, by Nimrod—Memoirs of Ma dame Laffarge, written by Herself—Charles Chesterfield, the Youth of Genius, by Mrs. Trollope—The Suicide's Burial. AMERICAN NEWS. (Further extracts from de , ric LllPaler'.) GREAT EIRE AT ST. Jolts, N. 11.—A dustruetiv;. fire recurred at St. ;John (in the parish of Portland) on the 26th instant. It broke out in a ship-yard, caused by the dropping of a spark from a red-hot plate, which a boy was carrying from a blacksmith's shop to a new ship just finished, and which was to be launched in a few days. The flames spread rapidly, and soon communicated to the ,hip, which was entirely destroyed. The fire soon com .nunicated to houses in front of the ship-) ard, spreading with great rapidity, and before it could be subdued, about fifty houses were destroyed. The loss of Owens and Duncan is estimated at about 10,000/. During the fire, a soldier, while running to prevent a man passing with his cart, ruptured a blood vessel, and died instantly, and a sailor , who was assisting, was smothered in the flames. Boston Transcript, Aug. 31. TEXAS.' We have received some very important intelligence from Texas. There appears to be a strong war feeling breathing throughout that country against Mexico, which, in connection with the following order, may bring on a rupture in a very short time. " War Department, Austin, July 14, 1841. "To Messrs. Roman, Price, M'Donald, Cunningham, O'ltiely, and Newcombe. " Gentlemen—Your communication by express has been this moment received. I regret that the President, in the discharge of his public duties, has been called to Galveston, and cannot, therefore, take the prompt action necessary to the emergency that has arisen. The Cabi net have, however, ben assembled, and unanimously agree that no time should be lost in repelling the inva ders of our soil and violaters of the rights of our citizens. We, therefore, authorise you to assemble such force as you can command for the expulsion of the enemy, re garding the war as fairly opened by this late outrage by the Mexican forces; volunteers to any number necessary for the accomplishment of this object, we authorise you to call out. You will of course use due discretion in dis tinguishing between traders and soldiers of the enemy, taking care, however, to possess yourselves of traders and their effects as an indemnity for the loss of our citizens, and treat soldiers as the rules of war direct. " I have the honour to be, very respectfully, " Your obedient servant, (Signed) "B. T. ARCHER, " Secretary of War and Navy." This was issued in consequence of the acquittal of Kinney and Aubrey, charged with having been the means of the capture of Captain Demitt, and the proof therefore that the Mexicans alone are responsible for that high-handed measure. We think an order of the nature of the above, which of course must be followed by fights and what not, and the election to the Presidency of General Houston, who entertains no very friendly feelings towards the Mexican Government, must inevitably lead to war between the two countries. This war will either end in the subver sion of Mexico or the full acknowledgment of the inde pendence of Texas by that Government. There had been no further intelligence from the I Santa Fee expedition. FLORIDA. Advices from St. Augustine are to the 23d August. Two detachments of dragoons, one commanded by Capt. Fulton, and the other by Lieut. Sibley, started on the 17th, from Pilatka, on a seven days' scout. Their course was in the direction of Volusia. Lieut. Anderson, a few clays since, captured six squaws and three children, in the neighbourhood of Volusia. The Win Gaston was left there on the 24th, for Port Pierce, with horses. A party of 50 mounted men is to leave that post immediately on the arrival of the boat, on an excursion, to co-operate with the n:ovements now going on. The gallant Col. Worth seems to be exerting his praiseworthy energies to bring this war to an end. That city continues very healthy. We learn that some 25 of Aleck Tustenuggee's warriors have gone into Tampa, and that the whole band is about giving up. GOOD ADVICE TO SIR R. PEEL TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. SIR-It appears to me a singular thing that at Driffield market yesterday, home grown wheat, new, was offered by our own producers at 5Gs. and 575., while the price of foreign wheat is 625. Surely such a fact as this ought to convince the present Ministry of the folly of continuing the present laws in the deformed state they are. Had an Bs. protecting duty been in existence, our own farmers and country would have benefited by . it, but as it is no one benefits by it, but the gam blers or swindlers in corn. Having a good deal of intercourse with farmers on my journey, I beg to state that these were the prices paid by the corn factors, and the farmers who are obliged to sell to meet the expense of getting in their crops, are compelled to accede to their wishes. lam happy to inform you that the feeling of the farmers respecting the present laws are undergoing a great change; many of them now clearly see that they derive no benefit from the existing laws, for before corn gets up to a remunerating price the stock of the country is in the hands of the speculators, and thby have such a power, that they can lower the averages to suit their own purpose when farmers must sell and rats..., them, when they are quite aware the farmers hold no stock. These are simple facts, which not only you but many others can bear me out in. Should Sir Robert Peel prorogue the present Parliament without taking these laws into his serious consideration, and sending forth to the world his and the other Ministers' views upon the question, he must be a brave bigot ; and should we hear of midnight burnings and assassinations, let the country thank Sir Robert for it. I wish Sir Robert would take a ride in my gig for a month, and learn particularly the wants of the country. He mmtt not amuse himself with beautiful visions; theoretical views are very pretty, but it is practical ones alone that will bring happiness to the millions of our little island. I remain, Sir, one of an influential body that troubles you less than any other, A COMMERCIAL TRAVELLER. Yorkshire, Sept. 29, 1841. THE SUFFERINGS OF THE POOR TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. sift—l have been much gratified by your notice of an " Ad dress to the Clergy of the Established Church," by a Physician. The author is undoubtedly deserving of great praise for his distinguished humanity. Of all the Established clergy, I be lieve scarcely half a dozen have stood prominently forward as sympathisers in the present unparalleled distress ; nay, they have set their faces against the afflicted poor. Instead of sym pathy, they have as a body, long constituted a leading influence in the great measure of oppression, the taxed loaf, and in all the wickedness of a corrupt and unrighteous system of Govern ment. But the worst feature is, that they have been so long devoted to a corrupted Government, as to have become at length absolutely devoid of all shame. Who could have thought that a Church of Christ could have encircled within its fold such monsters of cruelty and political depravity—shepherds of the flock, too I ! But all may be right ; this dread epos tacy from the spirit of the Gospel may lead to an earlier de struction of the present iniquitous system of Government; for when we see such horrific deeds abounding and perpetrated in the name of Christianity, we may rest assured that the aveng ing hand of Providence cannot be far distant. Ido earnestly hope that my countrymen will have spirit enough, for this is what is wanting, to pin Sir Robert Peel down to an immediate exercise of his duty. To turn a deaf car to the existing cruel distress, or to procrastinate, is what cannot he done without a dreadful implication of the whole community. For one, lam ready to stand up in defence of the sufferers in whatever way it may be necessary. A DETESTER OF ALL WOLVES IN SHEEPS' CLOTHING. MRS. TROLLOPE'S NEW NOVEL, " CHARLES CHESTERFIELD."—Of all the works that have proceeded from Mrs. Trollope's popular pen, there is not one, perhaps, that excels, in the caustic severity of its satire, the striking origi nality of its inzislents and characters, and the sparkling wit of its dialogue, these " Adventures of Charles Chesterfield, the Youth of Genius," which are now presented to the public in the shape of three amusing volumes, with some adm:rable il lustrations, by Phiz. Although the interest of the work is sufficiently centred in the person and fate of its hero, there can be little doubt that Mrs. Trollope's sketches of certain literary, theatrical, and social circles (the originals of which will be readily recognised) are likely to excite a greater degree of public attention and excitement, than even the momentous and instructive career of Charles Chesterfield himself. The scenes between Mr. Marchmont, the Editor of " 'the Rege nerator," and the fashonable authoress, Mrs. Sherbourne ; the rehearsal of the latter's play ; the Soirees at the Gibsons'; and the account of the Evening Pnrty, at which the " Eu ropean Celebrity" creates so great a sensation, are sketch's full of such mingled drollery and sarcasm as we may look in vain for elsewhere in the wide range of modern works of fiction. ARMY AND NAVY.—The October Number of the United Service Journal and Naval and Military Maga zine contains, among other important Papers:—Tribute to the Mi•mory of a Trafalgar Hero—Historical Details relative to the Military Force of Great Britain—Syria (luring the Campaign against Mehemet Ali (with two engraved plans of the Storm ing of Acre)—The Sea Piece—The British Colonies consi dered as Military Posts, by Lieut.-Col.Wilkie—Confesslons of a Spy—Lieut. White's Narrative of his Capture and Imprison ment by the Carlists—The Chase—An Incident in the Life of an old Adriatic Cruiser in the last War—A Military Coinci dence—Memoir of Major-General Sir E. J. Murray M'Gregor, Bart., K.C.B.—The Battery System at Woolwich —Notices of Steam Navigation—Remarks on the Justice of a General Promotion—Lord Vivian's Retirement from the Ord nance—Notes from the lonian Islands—The Engineer Esta lishment at Chatham—Distribution of the Army and Navy— With all the Naval and Military Intelligence of the Month. 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ECKINGTON.—We have been candidly in f armed that the cutlery business in Eckington is at present in such a depressed state that a portion of the work for which the workmen were, at no remote period, receiving 2s. 9d., will not now bring him in more than Is. 2d. This holds out a dreary prospect for the winter.—Derbyshire Chronicle. F,VENING SUN SHIPViNG INTELLIGENCE. (1,L0Y1)..:.) ste er ing VESSELS SPOKEN WITH. --Transport No. 10, 101 s. w., 21st inst., lat. 48, lon. 16, by her Majesty's ship ,g,: dove, arrived at Port,mouth. Adriana, 19th ult., lat. lon. 20; Flavio, Liverpool to St. Thomas, lat. 51, ion. 9 , 14 the Hardvtare, arrived at Liverpool. Europe, Liverpool to New York, 23d inst. off Cape Gear, by the Cambridge, Lire; rived at do ; Louisa ' Bailey, 14th ult., lat. 7 N , lon. 20 ; 0 11 . 0 Majesty's ship Forester, 27th ult., lat. 20, 10 ". 'T i ed Cornish,2lst inst., lat. 49, lon. 11, by the 'Magistrate, arr.°o at do. Brig Mary Ann, 22d inst., 1at..47. lon. 11, bi Britannia, arrived at Falmouth. Undaunted, Clan to Ca t eutta, 28th July, lat. 25, lon. 18, by the Mic Mac . , arri c : d i s do. Copeland, London to Bombay, 14th July, lat . la lon. 21 E. ; Lightning, Cadiz to Pernambuco, 901 ult • 17; I S., lon. 22 ; Jalle, London to Valparaiso,. 16th ult. lon. 22, by the Westbrook, arrived at Cork. Frances of Wb haven, from Rio Grande, lat. 31 S., lon. 48 W. ; 3 °,1 London to Calcutta, lat. 6; lon. 21, by the Cambridge , nrr ' .7 1 , at Monte Video. Barque Norfolk, 9th July, lat. 10, I°D; n by the Princess Real, arrived at Lisbon. Cumberland, don to Bombay, 12th July, by the Couch, arrived at the CaPbe' Calcutta of Liverpool, for Calcutta, 6tls, out 65 days, bl, t st : Isabella, arrived at do. Rota, Copenhagen to Batavia, ' July, off the Cape • Glenbervie, London for 'Hobart .1.1.90; 14th ult., lat. 11. ' N., I.n. 22 W. ; barque Lucie Anne, Bordeaux, 2d inst., lat. 34, lon. 6 ; .Jcannette , Rio to 111016 6th, lat. 37, lon. 38, by the Bencollen, arrived in the piper, Herefordshire, London to Bombay, 20th ult. , la t. 5 11" stA 27 W. ; Lady Douglas, from Malta, 28th ult., lat. 59 ; Nymph, with foremast sprung, bound to Oporto, tor slays from the Lizard, 16th inst., lat. 44, lon. 10, by the r supine, arrived at Plymouth. THE MARKETS. COUNTRY CORN MARKETS. rya-- Wheat. I Barley. Outs, Beane. .........,„„/ —.— 0 4 . Per Quarter s. to s. a. to s. s. to s. s, to s. -4 , ,. .. Carlisle 7O SO 24 46 4 " .7, Hexham 6B 81 36 39 'i3 23 --. ..t 4 ' Morpeth CO '74 30 36 20 25 38 4 2 -- Penrith 6B 32 21 41 Sheffield — , p • 39 25 _. 45 '''' 34 Winchest r 60 70 28 33 20 26 40 42 35a 1• d•t Per Bushel. s. d. s.d. s.d. s. d. s. d. s.d. a. d. 5 . cl„ 4 ‘ ; 9 0 : Carmarthen i: 0 , 79 00 40 00 23 56 0 U "„ „ 07, r;owbridge o 79 80 00 4l' 0 0 30 50 53 0 0 ' :wansea 176 84 4 0 44 26 30 5 6 6 0 ' Per 8011. I 10 9 0 Barnardcastl 13 0 —0 60 93 64 76 99 1 - 6 i, 0 10 6 Durham 15 6 176 80 90 59 69 00 106 o ' 0 10 0 Richmond lB 0 200 80 90 60 10 0 96 120 0 10 Stockton 15 0190 9 0 90 6 0 7090 11 6 ' WAKEFIELD CORN 51ARhE1'• A .o* Wisest, Red, Norfolk and Sußblk ...... ... —s. 594. to 611. ;70. —.--- Lin. and Cam. —s. 00s. to 6 31 . „ II „ n e , 643. -- Yorkshire —s. 58s. to Ols. „",,",(61. NM hite —s ' .. 316,622 i.: totts 66 : 5 4 i .-- 5 . 1 7 5 5 .10i. . 1" ----- Foreign, Iced White Barley, Norfolk anal Suffea Lincolnshire Yorkshire Wold -- Foreign - 421. Beans, New ----- Old . . ......... 4_o: .. t t 0 . —...: i. oAp e ee ... ,0 1 i : Oats, Potato —s. to 2es. 1 _ 30 ,, —.— Poland —s. —s. to 2 44 . E w e 0. --Frie;land and Small .... ........ -- kealing . . ...•..... . ... 12,1. to — 4 .1 41 ipse ShAling 261. to 27s Od. PO L od Malt ....... ........-..5. 40s. fine 425. Pe r ., bag Rapeseed . —l.os. 341.05. 361.00.0' NEWCASTLE CORN EXCHANGE. Whi te, Red. ~, e 4„. Wheat, Northumberland 43s. fts. ...... tio• R 4,, -- Norfolk and Suffolk 63s. 663....... 6Col• vii, .--- Berwick and Scotch ........ Foreign 6os. 64,...... 645• _„, Rya, Norfolk and Suffolk ...: Foreign 29s. 36....... - -4 • ...„ - ,t, Barley, Malting, Norfolk and Suffolk 3is. 40Y....... -- , ... 4 , 1 - Grinding and Feeding 383. 403...... "' a1 '..... . Malt, Norfolk and Suffolk 59. 645 ....... --.• ..._,. Beans, Small 403. 423....... '""°' ....0. -- Tick ....... 363. 384 ...... -- 4 ' .. .. o . Pease, White 34s. 40s. . ... " A ' ...... Gray . . 345. 365....... ",,,:, eats, Northumberland, Potatoe 24s. 265....... -A. ~ ....—.-- Feed `...24 '..4 • ms s '... " .. e Foreign Flour (per sack) 47s. 501 ......• .". SCOTCH MARKETS. „, t Wheat. Barley. Oats. . Beans. tia,'...1.5 ----1-- ----......- kberdeen... 60 to 70 27 to 28 19 to 23 —to e 333 ,0 516 Berwick 4O 54 20 24 16 21 30 3 3 , t i 3/ "Coldstream Cupar (Fife> 145 65 126 31 18 22 22 2 6 .1. - i Dunbar.. , 59 65 25 28 21 24 37 33 0 .0. Elgin 53 60 26 27 22 25 41 ,1 59 0 Inverness 4B 60 23 28 21 24 32 3 3 7., ' Kelso 143 51 24 27 17 20 3 0 2 : 5 ,s ''' Kirkaldy Perth 6O 67 30 40 25 35 4 1 44 ...; 0 . IZr Thu size of the measure varies throughout the cou.'" 11 ADDINGLCON CORN MARKET. VI Wheat. Barley. Oats. Be..ns 0. , r first Bss Od —s I d 26s 64 43s Od _, Od ....„."-- S eco nd BO. Od —s Od 25s Od 42s Od ,Od Third 74, Od —3 Od 245•09 —.5 Od Average 3i. 2s. 81 3.P2ths. DALKEITH CORN MARKET. Bell' Wheat. Bailey. I Oats. . Pease. 4 5, u . , Fir5t......... 86s Co 35s Od : 27$ Od 45, Od ,e, tw_, Secon Third 27s Od 2.1 6d its 49 —s Od d—* GLASGOW CORN MI RKET. i ,; to Wheat, per 2401 b. s. d. s. d. Oat; per 2641 b. ‘,1 4 0 '04 0 20 British, old 350 to 33 0 liri.b .. . .... ••••••••••••••• I . ... V' ........... MCW Canada, free ..... ...... — 0 0 Beans, per 260 1 b. 3 As . O Irish Barley, per 3201 b. Scottish 2. gi - 0 ano English 3O 0 31 0 Pease, Scottish .. .... .1 - ~ .- • Scottish 2B 0 28 0 Oatmeal,perl:olb.... b". bd Irish EDINBUROH CORN MARKET. vs's' Wheat. I Barley. 1 Oats, 1 Beans. , 5 , Olt First B7s. Od 3;1.0d. 'Ss. 04. 455. Od. is 0 Second 74 0 34 0 23 0 V° o 40 ° . EDINBURUH CORN MARKET. Wheat. Barley. Oats, Means. First B7s. Od 3;1. Od. OA. 455. 0 ' 1 • Second 74 0 31 0 23 0 43 0, Third Average price of Wheat 31.145. 641. PRICES OP PROVISIONS, 4C• &I t o 11 Beef, per in. Os. sd. to Os.fld. Freshßutter, 111. 4'l o 0 0 5 0 7 Salt 0 96 0 7 010 Ditto, per cwt...'"„ • 9 0 5 0 7 Eggs, per doS... 10 Lamp. per qr. I 6 4 6 OatStraw(l(o.) , * 1 0 cwt........ 39 0 43 0 Wheat Ditto... a v , 1 Quartern S 1 0 9 Barley Ditto .; 1 ' Potatoes.l4lb. 0 0 0 4 Hay, l'• EDINNU RUH MEAL MARKET Per Sack of 280114 Imp. Per Stene of Ili First Oatmeal Second ditto.. B irleymeal I 11 0 Barlepateal ..... 0 P.m enieal 1 8 0 Peasemeal ...... ..... Pot Barley from 30s. to 4,55. per sack 9 4. O P 9 1 0 O frd. We regret to state that the trade of - 00 which for a few weeks was nearly stat;onary, is ag a . in decline. Last week there were a number of addition ooo a pli( ants for assistance from the relief fund, which bss.,,tiod greater number dependent upon it than at any feriuerr o mf of the depression. From Johnstone, 111 `..1.5eni0 placer, the accounts are equally unfavourable. Therer-.1 present u about 100/. expended weekly in Paisley t application has been made for Government assistance. p, It. Peel has transmitted a letter declining to give the anee required.—Glasgow Argus. - 01 GOLD WATCHES, LONDON-MA:-. 1 .01 0 : A. B. SAVORY and SONS, Watchmakers, N. 9, London, opposite the Bank of England, submit for h alf very large STOCK of GOLD WATCHES, the 1 / 1 _:• co which are made and finished under the careful inspeci:' war experienced workmen on their own premises, and each ` ll ranted for correct performance. SIZE FOR LADIES. 0 Fine Vertical Watches, jewelled, in engine-turned . l 0 10 gold cases and gold dials, warranted ......... ..• •• Fine Vertical Watches, jewelled, with double backed engine -turned gold cases and gold dials, 1 2 IA warranted Patent detached Lever Watches, jewelled in four 0 holes, with double-backed gold cases and gold 14 14 , dials, warranted SIZE FOR GENTLEMEN. Patent detached Lever Watches, jewelled is four 0 holes, seconds, and double-backed gold cases, i s 1 5 warranted Patent detached Lever Watches, capped, jewelled 0 in six holes, seconds, deuble.backed gold cases 17 11 and enamel dials, warranted Patent detached Lever Watches, capped, jewelled 0 in six holes, seconds, double-backed gold cases to. 0 0 0 and gold dials, warranted Either of the Gentlemen's Watches may be ha n d..b hunting cases for 3/. 3s. each extra. N.B. Se e° Watches purchased in exchange - _ .-- iii ° ne PAPIER MACHE TEA 5014 TRAYS, So .. . d r SET, of FULL-SIZED GOTHIC SHAP E. " s 4s. r,. liar London Table Knives, with ivory handles , isui ete,: dozen ; Brass Poles for Window Curtains, li jeuh A l feel er Is. 3d. per foot ; 2 inches, ls. id. p er f oo t ; bronz e " 4 feet 1 ,ng, 9s. WO ' sit , SUPERIOR LONDON TABLE CITTLE.' Ir d i s .d .': .. RANTED.—TABLE KNIVES, with Ivory 11 , 1 " ,:er i ; ' , per dozen ; Dessert Knives, I Is. ; Carvers, 4s- ut" er i ileg e 7 y 'fable Knives, with white bone handles, as. " p er n'' , ' Dessert, 6s. ad. ; Carvers, 3s. per pair ; Glob As '",t, urns, 4 quarts, 275. ; new shapes, 395. ; Papier I st a i s loge;: f trays, gothia shape, 50s ; the set of full size!. , o fr i oug e o containing the prices, with Engravings of every ir ° „ 5 i5e , ,,,,,1 Article necessary to the furnishing of a house of it 10 '" per cent. under any other old-established houses ' A stree t ' gratis (post free). Or"' ItIPPON and BURTON, 12, Wells-street,• o ir Established 1820. ........ . ;,.pet BIR THS. , 0 13 e" On the 23d inst., at Hastings, the lady o f Jame oty Esq., of a son. Bro d' On the 26th inst., Mrs. Edward P ollard, of O P . squa re, or a daughter. I On the 27th inst., in Tavistock-square , tho lady of Montefiore. Esq., of a daughter. k , O . On the 27th inst., at Bent rock-terrace , Rege n t's -per - , William M'Gill, of a son. . 0 ' On the 28 th inst. , in Bedford - street, Covent-ge rue " ' Seneca Hughes, of a son. to 13es4P On the 28 th inst. , at Trent - park, the Lady Agee -- _, of a daughter. _....-----'' - MARRIED. tle ergr On the 22d inst., Alexander Duncan, Esq Civil Elg o ' v eztl' late Captain in the Spanish Service, Kt. Sil ' F.,_ a" d : — Catb e ment Assistant-Surveyor at the Island of Ceylon, L ° rine, daughter of James Ulan, Esq., of Dundalk. , t ierie S ' On the 23d inst., Montagu Wilmot,E q to Sarah rr e daughter of Thomas Eden, Esq. s .' To per Oa the 28th inst., at St. Stephen' Coleman-street,, „.,,htet Holmes, Esq., of Upper Clapton . , to Marianne, thira t'"' of the late Mr. W. Taylor, of I ulgat st •eet. s ot On the 28th inst , at St. Jamey's 4( Ludgate-street. Charles Penfljthe Esq., of Regent-stre . ot, to Cecilia r ' ah, only daught er () le late Sir Thomas Bell. Wale Oti the 28th i ns t., at St. Marylebone, Arthur 0 F*A°. Ravenicreft, o f th e B om b ay Ci v il S erv i c e, E s( l 1 '. Oll (laughter of the l a t e R ev . Willi am Amboor Kea ting, Chaplain at Madras , . . i r • o ' On the 28th inst., at St. Mary's, Islington , th e Belod laof Heiseli, eldest son o f F. IleiAch, Esq., of Blackheath htez curate of the above parish, to Julia Maria, second daub R. Heintz, Esq., of Islington. I I DIED. oa t .0 On the Bth of. June last, at Santa Cruz, in th e Dril l Flores, the Azores, Ann, the wife of James 1 4 K - 3 Y , le l ' llb Vice-Consul of that Island, aged 42. 310. On the 12th inst., at Lansdown-crescent, B ath, o f relict of W. H. Kemp, Esq., of Teynham, Kent. Elizabeth, re iiet On the 24th inst., at Boulogne-sur-Aler, ~,et htt the late Lieutenant Nugent Blood, of the 33th Reg; „ c ool; On the 24th inst., at Bath, Harriet, wife of John i" ht 31. D., late of Clarendon, Jamaica. On the 25th inst., at Southampton, Franc es, onlY dauglift; of W. A ssheton, of Downham Ilall, Lancashire , E,(l' ,of On the 2e,th inst., Henry Athelstane, the eldest°, ii. .0; W. 11. Parsons, of the Marine Library, Brighton, at, , , the LI On the 27th inst., George Coles, Esq., Fellow or .n e sir nwan Society, surgeon. Woodstock, Oxon, aged 69 ' John ' On the 27th inst., Frances Pomeroy, wife of 111 r. Best, Grosvenor-street West, Belg rave - sq uare. - 0 ' l ii ----- , — y - - 0 - t7 ,lu ; 10 London: Printed and Published by MUM .„ stra ll l' No. 112, Strand, at The Sun Off* No. 112, 0 , , leri the county of Middlesex, Wednesday, September - e . be eel sal at