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EVE!.TING EDITION si . .“ , stion. What, then, bal the Scotch law said respect it ? It was said the present claims of tha Church would be found embodied in the law. He was surprised Near such a statement. In what A ct could it be found ? , was true there had been great excitement, but be be fed it had much subsided, and that the people were be coming tired of the subject. Whal he complained of was that this Bill gave the Church and the people a power they e•.lght not to possess, and which they would probably abuse. I-ie thought it was only an old friend with a new face. It was nothing more than the old Veto Law, and was not, he thought, at all calculated to adjust the differences which existed on the question. The Earl of RODEN hoped that whatevar measure might be adopted it would be such as would allay the exist ing differences. The Marquis of NORMANBY said he regretted the or.linary course should have been departed frem with re ap to this Bill, by taking the discussion on the first read +a4. He was desirous that it should not be supposed that ad approved of the measure who did not state their ob jections to it on the present occasion. The Bill was then read a first time. LEASE AND RELEASE BILL. On th 3 motion of the LORD CHANCELLOR this Bill was read a second time. PRIVILEGE OF PEERAGE. On the motion of the LORD CHANCELLOR the Bill for abolishing the Privilege of Peerage in cases of Fe lony was read a second time. The Noble and Learned Lord said that in the time of Edward the Sixth an Act had passed to give the Members of their Lordships' House the same privilege in cases of felony which was then pos. seascd by the clergy. In 1 833 an Act was passed by which the privilege of clergy in such cases was abolished, but no proviEi.in ..as male with respect to the Peerage. The ob ject of the present Bill, therefore, was to abolish a privilege which he was sure their Lordships would not desire to re. tain, and to put them on the same footing in this respect with all classes of her Majesty subjects.—( Hear, hear.) Messengers from the House of Commons brought up a number of Bills, of which the titles were not heard in the gallery. _ ...... The Marquis of HUNTLY presented a petition on the subject of Church Patronage in Scotland, but the de signation of the petitioners was not heard. Lord KENYON presented a petition from Sir Harcourt Lecs, against the grant to Maynooth College ; also a pe tition from Derby, for the exclusion of Roman Catholics from Parliament. Lord POLTIMORE presented a number of petitions fur the abolition of Courch-rates. Lord WII ARNCLIFFE presented a petition from the attorneys and solicitors of Taunton, for a revision of the lAws of marriage; also a petition to the same effect from the inhabitants generally of that town. The Noble Lord said that on Thursday next he should present •ome petitions to the same effect. Loid R EDESD ALE presented several petitions rgainst alteration of the Corn-laws., from Oxfordshire ; also a petition from Fitzroy-square, for the removal of the tolls on the metropolitan bridges. The Earl t f WESTMEATH presented a petition from the county of Antrim against Church patronage in Scot land. Lord II ATII E RTON presented a petition from Char otte-street Chapel for the removal of the toll on metro politan bridges. A number of petitions to the same effect were presented by other Noble Lords. The Earl of CIIARLEVILLE presented a petition nom Enniskillen against Church patronage in Scotland. CORN-LAWS. The Earl of WINCHIL SE A presented petitions from Ashford and other places in the county of Kent against any alteration in the present Corn-laws. ,~ The Earl of FITZ W ILLIA M presented petitions for the repeal of the Corn-laws from Arbroath and Barnstaple, and from Bingley and Saddleworth, in the West Riding of Yorkshire. The Noble Lord gave notice that he would, tc-morrow, present a petition to the same effect from Leeds. In answer to Lord ASHBURTON, The Earl of FITZ WILLIAM said he did not mean to go into a discussion of the g eneral question until aft er proceedings in another House, of which notice had been given.—(Hear, hear.) But he thought it due to the great town from which the petition same to give notice of its presentation. Lord ASHBURTON thought that if they were to wait until the Bill upon the subject of the Chan cellor of the Exchequer's new project for obtain ing money without taxes, came before their Lordships, the three measures, corn, sugar, and timber duties, they would never have an opportunity of discussing them at all ; for he was sure the good sense of the country would prevent those measures from ever coming before them.—(Hear, hear.) There never was a greater delu sion, nor a greater bubble than the project in question. The Earl of FITZ WILLIAM wished to remind his Noble Friend that these were new laws.—(Hear, from Lord Melbourne.) He (Lord Fitzwilliam) was ashamed be say that when he was a young man he voted for them, bat his Noble Friend opposite (Lord Ashburton) could Ibok back with pride to the firm, wise, and powerful oppo- Alien which he gave to them, night after night, when he mood alone against 500 united Members of the House of Commons.—( Cheers ) His Noble Friend then rightly called the scheme a monstrous project—( Hear, hear)._ and monstrous it would still be called by every man who bad a drop of commercial blood in his veins. —(Cheers and laughter.) But he was afraid that every drop of com mercial blood had oozed from his Noble Friend since he had changed his character from that of a merchant and a liberal politician to that of a great landowner and an aristocrat.—( Cheers and laughter.) The majorities against a relaxation and revision of the Corn-laws had boen gra dually diminishing even in that Hourse. Last year be (Lord Fitzwilliam) had 42 votes in his favour, whereas the year before he was supported only by 23 votes.— ( Hear, hear.) He was sorry that the discussion had been so inconveniently introduced, but it had not been by him. Lord A SIIBURTON explained. The proposition which he opposed in ISIS was to raise the duty on corn, in time of peace, from 603. to 80s.—( Hoar, hear.) In deed, a gentleman, who was now an advocate for free trade, said at that time that 80s. would never do—( Hear, bear)--that nothing less than 1 20 e. would do.—( Cheers. ) For his own part, he was satisfied that some protection was necessary to the landed intereqr. The Marquis of L ANSDO WNE presented petitions from the county of Dawn for the better observance of the Sabbath; and from other places in the north of Ireland against Church patronage in Scotland. Also petitions from the county of Down, praying for the better observ ance of the Sabbath. Also several petitions from Scot land- and Ireland against Church patronage in Scotland. The M.lrquis of LANSDOWNE presented a petition from Portsea in favour of the Bill for removing Jewish Di;abilitte%. The Home then Adjourned at a Quarter to Nine. 110 USE OF COMMONS, MAr 6. The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour. The Coventry and Warwick Road Bill was read a third time and passed. Sir WM. CLAYTON presented three petitions from plaeet in Surrey against a repeal of the Corn-laws, and petitions from places in York, Norfolk, Buckingham, and Glamorgan to the same effect. Mr. G ILLON presented a petition from Aberdeen, praying for a repeal of the Corn-laws. Mr. BLENNERHASSETT presented petitions from places in the county of Antrim, against lay patronage in tLe Church of Scotland. Sir G. STAUNTON presented a petition from Ports mouth, against the employment of dogs in drawi.ig carts and trucks. Measermers from the Lords brought down the Drainage of Towns'l3tll, and the Borough Improvements Bill, to which their Lordships bad agreed with certain amendments. Mr. WA BUR TON presented petitions from Cum berland, for the revision of the Import Duties; from Nor folk, for repeal of the Corn-laws ; and from the Medical Association, in favour of Mr. Hawes's Medical Re form Bill. Mr. BOIS FIE L D presented a petition from the mem bers of a certain Dissenting College, praying for the re. lease of Mr. William Baines, and the abolition of Church rates. Mr. WODEHOUSE presented a petition from the Guardians of a Poor-law Union in Norfolk, against the proposed alteration in the appointment of officers of unions. Sir li. I3ATESON presented a petition from some place in the county of Down against railroad travelling on the Lord's Day, and praying for a better observance of the fr.d ; also petitions from two Psesbyterian congre. gations in the North of Ireland, praying for the abolition d Church patrinage in Scotland. Mr. ROUND presented petitions from thirteen parishes i n . E sse x, praying for Church Extension ' • also a petition farina the Board of Guardians of the Saffron Walden Union, praying for a more effectual remedy against the fathers of illegitimate children. Mr. M UNTZ presented a petition from a Dissenting Congregation of Birmingham, praying for the abolition of Church-rates. Mr. E. BULLE r aying that a petition from some place in Staffordshire, praying that no grant of public money might be voted for purposes of Church Exlen'ion. Mr. A. MILES presented a petition from the West India Mere!sants of Bristol, against any alteration in the Sugar Dittie s . Mr. BROTH E RTON presented a petition from a Dis senting Congregation at Leamington Priors. praying that Vley might be permiqed to make an affirmation instead of taking an oath. Also 13 petitions praying for a repeal of tha Corn-laws. Mr. DIVETT presented pet i t i ons from the various w au d r s c h ot : rates. th the city of Exeter, p ray ing for the a bolition of Mr. LITTON presented et itions from various o ffi cers of the courts of Ireland , pr aying y• for comp ensation ire the event of any interference taking p lac e with their ; also, from several of the clergy of Ireland, praying for the restoration of the supp-r.s a i am Sir Harcourt Le es , Irishßishnpries; also, address her Majesty beseeching : r pr aying t the House to graciously picued to kstie her Rial Prociamation,(3)rd be ordering the ex pulsion of the Jesuits from all pa rts o f her Nhi.qity ' s dominions. Mr. ALSTON [resented a petition from A Dissenting eougregation in Hertfordshire, praying for the abolition of Clurch-rate, _ _ Mr. R. CURRIE presented five petitions from places in the county of Northampton, praying for the abolition of Church-rates and Ecclesiastical Courts, and the re lease of Mr. William Baines. Sir GE O RGE GREY presented a petition praying that greater facilities might be given for the admission of Dissenting Clergymen into workhouses for the religious consolation of those belonging to their congregation. Mi. F. MAULE presented numerous petitions praying for the abolition of lav patronage in the Church of Scotland. Lord GEORGE LENNOX gave notice that on the 20th inst. he would move that the House should resolve ittelf into a Committee in order to take into consideration so much of the Report of the Naval and Military Commis sion as related to Marines. Mr. LITTON gave notice that in Committee on the Court of Chancery (Ireland) Bill he would move clauses t reating compensation to certain officers. GILLON gave notice that to-morrow he would mcve that the return of all sums of money paid to the Church of Scotland, ordered on the 411 of March last, be made forthwith. Mr. WALLACE po;tponeri his motion f;:r taking into consideration the petili,ni of William Leckie f:n• three or four weeks, at the Teri:lost of several influential persons both in awl out of the liause. Mr. li. LUNDE gave notice of his intentio to move for a return of the manner in which the mail, between London and the North were earried. CORN-LAWS. Lord JOHN RUSSELL give notice that on to morrow evening on the motion that the House go into Committee of Ways and Means being rut, he would move the following resolution : " That it is the ()Onion of this House that it is practicable to supply the present inadequacy of the r,venue., by judicious alterations of the protective and diffiqcntial duties, without any material increase of the public burdens; and that such course will at the same time promote the inteicil of trade, and afford relief to the industrious clases ; and that this House considers that such course is test calculated to provide for the maintenance of the public safety and the general welfare of the country." Lord HO WICK wished to know in what manner the amendment was to be moved ? Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that the amendment would be moved as he stated yesterday. Sir ROBERT PEEL said that he supposed the Chancellor of the Exchequer would move that the Speaker do leave the chair, and upon that question his Noble Friend (Lord Sandon) would move his amendment. The ques tion would then be, that the words proposed to be left out stand part of the question ; in case that proposition were af firmed, the House would then go into Committee ; in case it wore negatived, the Noble Lord would then move his amendment. Lord HO WICK said it scented to him that that was an extremely inconvenient course, as it would lead to two debates and two divisions. If it was meant to take the sense of the House upon which of the two resolutions should be adopted, it appeared to him that instead of his Noble Friend moving the Ways and Means, the Hon. Member for Liverpool should be allowed precedence, and upon that motion his Noble Friend could move his resolution, upon which the sense of the House could be taken. Sir R. PEEL said that of course the Noble Lord would first bring forward the general question, which would enable his (Sir R. Peel's) Noble Friend to take the sense of the House on the Sugar Duties. If the Noble Lord were to withdraw his motion, his Noble Friend would not have an opportunity of submitting his resolutions, as many might object to vote for his Noble Friend, if his proposition were merely volunteered and not introduced, in consequence of the course adopted by the Government. He was sure the Noble Lord ( Lord J. Russell) would adhere to the announcement which he had already made, as to his plan of financial policy.—( Hear, hear.) SOUTH AUSTRALIAN BILL. On the motion of Lord J. RUSSELL the Lords' Amendmeats to the South Australian Bill were agreed to. POOR-LAWS. Mr. WALTER (who spoke from the front Opposition benches) wished to ask the Noble Lord if it was his in tention to persevere with the Bill for the amendment of the Poor-laws. Lord J. RUSSELL said that it was his intention to persevere with the Bill, and that he should bring it on on the 17th of May. Mr. WALTER would give notice that on that day he should submit a motion to the House, the object of which would be to arrest the further progress of that measure. CHINA—RECAL OF CAI'T. ELLIOT. Sir R. PEEL wished to know whether there had been any recent arrivals from China which would enable the Noble Lord to give the House any information as to the present state of our relations with that country. Lord JOHN RUSSELL could not say whether there had been any arrivals to-day, but the previous arrivals had not enabled him to furnish any additional information. Mr. G 0 ULBURN said that information brought by recent arrivals had appeared in the Papers of that day. Sir R. PEEL referred to the Gazette accounts, and wished to know if the Government had ratified the treaty which bad been said to have been entered into be tween the Plenipotentiaries of the two countries. Lord J. RUSSELL said that the Government had re ceived information of certain preliminary arrangements which had been entered into by the Plenipotentiaries of the two Powers. Those preliminary arrangements, how ever, did not appear to have been ratified by the Emperor of China—indeed it did not appear that they had been finally settled between Capt. Elliot and the Plenipotentiary appointed by the Chinese Government. That arrangement was generally divappreved of by her Majesty's Govern ment, but no further steps could be taken until they re ceived further accounts stating more particularly what that Treaty contained. Sir R. PEEL was desirous of knowing, considering the distance of the scene of operations, whether hostilities had already been disconsinued ? Lord JOHN RUSSELL said a truce had been entered into, and by the last accounts that truce had not been P; an end to, but he could not say that hostile operations might not be recommenced.—( Cheers. ) Mr. HUME said he wished to know whether a report that had beat circulated was correct, namely, that the Government had recalled Captain Elliot and appointed Sir Henry Pottinger in his stead. The public were anxious to know whether such was the case. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that it was true that Sir Henry Pottinger had received the appointment of Pleni potentiary of China, and was about to depart immediately for that country, Captain Elliot having been recalled. EGYPT. Mr. HUME wished to know if there were any de spatches from Egypt to the effect that matters were ad justed between the Pacha and Porte, as pledged by us to be done. Lord JOHN RUSSELL was understood to say, that he could not enter iato any account of what had peen done recently. CONVICTS AT WOOLWICH. Lord MA HON said he had seen an account in the public papers of the continued and increased mortality among the convicts in the hulks at Woolwich, and that it was stated that the Governer attributed this to the ac cumulwion together of the convicts under the di rectioos of the Noble Lord._( Hear.) He wished to know if the Government had receivNl any oETcial informa tion of this. He also wishei to know what had occasioned the delay in the returns on this subject two months ago. Mr. PDX NI A ULE said that it was true that the mor- tality had increased among the convicts at Woolwich; but he was given to understand that this was not the case with them only, but also with the military stationed there. He could assure the Noble Lord that no attention would be spared on the subject. With respect to the returns, the Noble Lord was perhaps aware that a Judge could not be compelled to disclose his private notes. neither could a Coroner; but he had no doubt if the House ex. pressed a wish to that effect, the Coroner would furnish them with such parts of it as he should think necessary. In reply to a question from Mr. G. PALMIER, with re respect to the mode of ascertaining the value of export; and imports, Mr. L ABOUCHERE said that with regard to the official value, he beliived there had not been any difference for the last fifteen yearn in the mode of calculating it. With regard to the declared value, it was always taken upon the declaration of the exporting merchant upon oath. DESTRUCTION OF TILE CAROLINE. Mr. HUM E moved for a copy of the correspondence between the Legation of the United States in London and the S.cre:nry of State for the Foreign Department, in re lation to the destruction of the steam-boat Caroline; also a copy of the correspondence between Mr. Fox, the British Minister at Washington, and the Secretary of the United States, in relation to the destruction of the steam-boat Caroline ; and also a copy of all the correspondence between the Lieutenant-Governors of Upper Canada and the Governor-General of the Canadas, and the Secretary of State for the Colonies, in relation to the destruction of the steamboat Caroline. The Ho nourable Gentleman said he believed that if this info!. • minion had been before the public at an earlier period of the digpute, it would have prevented much of the excite ment on both sides of the Atlantic. We understood the Hon. Gentlemen to complain that the Government had been dilatory in not submitting the correspondence to the House. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said the motion was so en rely unusual, the matter being yet under negociation, that to hoped the House would not require the production of he correspondence. The Hon. Gentleman had com plained of the conduct of the Government with respect to this question. He (Lord John Russell) would state how the muter stood. The Government of the United Stat , s had made a complaint of the conduct of certain individuals and officers who were said to have taken part in the dcstruetion of the steam-boat Caroline. The t a i n u s a w nt e i r ty to o ti f iat co c r o r m es p p l o ai n n d t e w nc a e s . the and tr o a f ns v m a i r a i s o i u o s n o st f a a tem g e re n a ts t made by the Governor of Upper Canada, and by a number of individuals who were concerned i n th e trans action ; the American Government sent counter state ments, but they did rim persist in asking f or a final answer a sw n er to cb their mands. The effect of their not asking for an swer was, that the act of the British Government ceased to be matter of discussion, and it was not for the British Government to complain of that conduct. He Vise convinced that the matter would have entirely dropped as between the two Governments, if it had not been for the unfortunate affair of Mr. M'Lcod. That had revived the sulject, and produced diqcussians with regard to the recent case of the steam-boat Caroline. That arrest had unfortunately revived the subject, anti had produced a renewed discussion between the two Go. vernmcnts. With reg ard to the production of the corre spondence asked for , be had to state that it would be' in convenient to the public service, and tend to embarrass the negotiation that was now going on in an amicable spirit, and might tend to militate against the peace of two great and intelligent nations.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. H UME wanted 'the papers in order to prove that an assertion made by the Noble Secretary for the Foreign Department was net founded in fact. Ha said that the American Government had not persisted in demanding an answer to their remonstrance of March, 1838 ; while Mr. Forsyth distinctly said that Mr. Stevenson was not to preys the Government here because lie had been enur ed by Mr. Fox that in a few days they would have c ommunication from the Government direct an answer Or e wstaantetomdenttheofpLapoerdrs Palmer_ purpose of seeln, - from this cou.ntryw. he ll th o e w r the he ston in his allega'ion were correct. The Right Hon. Baronet the Member fo r Tamworth said some time ago that there might be a lim it to the complaisance of the !louse in p u tting up wit;; the refusal of papers—in his Opinion that time had now arrived. Had be been furnished with the papers respecting Syria, the affairs of the East would have been settled long before they were, -and the peace of Europe would not have been endangered. So, had he been fur nished with these papers respecting the Caroline, the question w ou ld h ave been forced upon the atte ntion of the Governm ent , He therefo re su b m i tted that as he mere ly wanted a pri and would have been settled l on g a g o. vote correspondence, and no secrets that could interfere with the negotiation s between the two coantriea, ho was entitled to the information which he required. Lord JOHN - RUSSELL said that the production of the correspondence could not enable the lion. Gentleman to attain the end which he proposed. The American Go vernment had eked for redress for the burning of the Ca relice, hut to that request her Majesty's Government delibe rtvely, and not through any neglect, did not think it proper to give a final answer. But his Miele Friend the Secretary for Foreign Affairs, bad since informed the American Mi nister at the Court of London, that the British Govern. ment had justified the destruction of the Caroline, upon which the American Minister had made such communica tion to his Government, as he thought expedient, but that communication had riot yet transpired. Mr. HUM E said that since the month of May, 1838, when the American Government had inquired into the unfortunate transaction, and had requested satisfaction from the British Government, no answer whatever had been given, until a very late period, to the American Minister, either verbally or by letter. He thought that this was an improper delay, and that Minis ters were now abusing the patience of the House. Sir ROBERT PEEL said that the Hon. Member for Kilkenny hal made a motion calling for an extensive corre spondence, which the Noble Lord met by a declaration made in his cap icity of. responsible Minister of the Crown that negotiations connected with the subject were now pending between the two countries, negotiations conducted in an amicable spirit—and that pre judice to the interests of the country might arise by the pro duction of the correspondence. Now, in his ( Sir R. P.'s) opinion, such a statement, on the part of a Minister of the Crown, was conclusive in the case. During negotiations pending with foreign countries it would cer tainly be unwise to force a Minister of the Crown to pre judice the public interests by the production of papers. Ile wished, however, to ask the Noble Lord in what position the question now stood ? He be lieved the British Government had avowed the burning of the Caroline as a public act, and had called on the Government of the United States for the release of Colonel M'Lcod. tie wished to know from the Noble Lord what had since occurred. Lord J. RUSSELL said that the statement made in answer to the application of Mr. Fox was, that the At torney-General to the United States Government would proceed to the place where the trial was to be held, and that he had instructions given him as to his mode of proceeding, which he ( Lord J. R.) did not think it necessary or proper to state at that momont. It appeared that the Attorney_ General proceeded to the place of trial, but did not take any course himself. The counsel for Mr. M'Leod declared that one of the defences of Mr. M'Leod was that the act had been authorised by the British Govern ment, and he, therefore, moved that the case should be re moved to a Federal Court. That application had been complied with, and the cause had been removed into a Federal Court, and that Court would judge of the defence of Mr. M'Leod. In that Court no doubt the Attorney- General of the United States could do that which he (Lord John R.) supposed it was impossible for him to du in the Court of the State of New York. Mr. S. O'BRIEN hoped the Noble Lord would not refuse the production of those documents which bad already appeared in the American papers. If there were any other in existence, he would not ask for them, but he could not see how the public service could be prejudiced by the pro duction of papers which had already been published in America. - Sir ROBERT PEEL hoped the Noble Lord would not accede to any such proposition. Independently of the precedent being a very bad one, he considered it would be derogatory to the dignity of Parliament to ask for just so much information, because it happened to be given to other countries. But let them observe the consequence. The statements alluded to might be ex parte, and might give a most unfavourable view of the case as regarded this country, and yet by adopting the proposition of the Hon. Gentleman, they would be giving their sanction to these unfavourable, and it might be unjust, statements —( Cheers.) Sir DE LACY EVANS could not understand what object there could be in pressing for these papers, which were already published, and to which every Gentle man could procure access. The only consequence of their production would be to embarrass a complicated ne gotiation, which was now proceeding in an amicable man ner. He hoped his Hon. Friend would not press the motion. Mr. P. HOWARD thought that at a time when this country, as well as the United States, were deploring the loss of the able Chief Magistrate of that country, it was highly indelicate to press such a motion as this, just as the new Governor was undertaking the management of the United States.—( Hear, hear.) He believed that there was a strong feeling on both sides of the Atlantic for the preservation of the amicable relations between the two countries.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") The great commercial body was particularly anxious on the subject, and was particularly desirous that the greatest delibera tion should attend the conducting of those negotiations. He trusted that the motion would not be pressed. Mr. T. D UNCOMBE said that according to the doc trine of the Right Honourable Baronet, the country had no right to the possession of the same information as was possessed by other countries. They only asked for papers up to the time of the arrest of M'Leod, and he wished to know why the British Parliament should not have full information as well as the Congress of the United States. The Right Honourable Baronet was assisting in smothering this information. What he wanted to know was why a British subject, Mr. M'Leod, was detained a prisoner in the United States ? He wished to ask did they mean to allow the trial of Mr. 14PLeod to proceed ?—(Cheers.) The feeling of the country was, that the national honour was compromised by Mr. M'Leod being detained a prisoner. The question of his guilt had nothing to do with the case. The general opinion was that they would escape from their dilemma by its being incontrovertibly proved that at the time of the destruction of the Caroline Mr. M'Leod was not present. But that had nothing to do with the ques tion. Mr. M'Leod had been arrested, and was detained. Now, if they a right to detain him, they had a right to try him, and if they had a right to try ben, they had a right to execute him, in the event of his being found guilty. Did they intend to allow Mr. M'Le )d to be executed in such a case? If they were right Mr. M'Leod ought nut to be imprisoned at all. Would they insist upon his release ?—( Cheers.) It was an important ques tion. Suppose Captain Brown, who had commanded the expedition which had destroyed the Caroline, and which had most justly and properly destroyed her, in his opinion--suppose Captain Brown were travelling in the United States, l►e would be allowed to be arrested. Suppose ho was to be arrested and tried, and the conse quence would be that he was found guilty, were the people of England to submit to that ? Were the people of Engl Ind to allow one of its officers to be put on his trial for obeying their orders ? That was the question. lie would ask the Noble Lord did he mean to let Mr. M'Leod's trial proceed? That gentleman was imprisoned now six months, and he ( Mr. T. Duncombe) would repeat it, the people of England ought to know why their fellow subject wss impr soned. Certainly if the Hon. Member would divide the House on the question, he (Mr. D.) would vote with him. Sir ROBERT PEEL begged to explain. The question asked was whether Mr. M'Leod would be re leased or not. Ile. ( Sir R. Peel) gave no opinion on that ; what he said was that when the Hon. Gentleman moved for the papers referred to, the production of which it was stated would be prejudic i al to the public interest, he ( Sir Robert Peel) said that it was his opinion that they ought not to be produced. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, but the mo tion was negatived without a division. MR. VIZ ARD. Colonel SIBT HO It P moved that the attention of the House be called to the appointment of Colonel Vizard to the office of Solicitor to the Home Department. The Hon. and Gallant Member said he thought it a duty he owed the country to bring forward that motion. He meant to move also for certain papers relative to that ap pointment. He conceived he was bound to take the sense of the floase on this subject, on account of the corres pondence which emanated, both from the Home-office . . and the Treasury, relative to the matter. For the space of forty-three years the duti.:s of the Home-office had been satisfactorily discharged without the assistance of a solicitor. He was inclined, for his part, to attribute the appointment to the want of energy, good conduct, and proper management of the Members of the present Go vernment. He moved for a third return of the appoint ment of this gentleman as Secretary of Bankrupts, f.ar he found this gentleman, who held a lucrative iitu ntion of 1,5001 a-year, held this situation also. If it was necessary to appoint a Solicitor to the Home-office, a gentleman should be selected who wool.] be able to give his undivided attention to the business. , The Hon. Gentlemen said he would take the sense of the llouse on every occasion when the vote was proposed for the pay ment of this salary. The Hon. Gentleman concluded by moving a resolution to the effect, that the appointment of Mr. Vizard to the office of Solicitor to the Home-office was unnecessary and ought to be cancelled. Mr. F. M AUL E said that the appointment of Mr. Vizard, as Solicitor to the Home Department, arose out of the great increase of business, in consequence of the passing of various Acts of Parliament. Almost every other department had its separate solicitor. There were many contracts entered into by the Home Department, in which such advice was necessary. The expense arising, out of the want of a legal adviser, in the case of the Police Com missioners, had been 8001. a-year ; that was another of the grounds upon which the appointment was made. With re2pect to the other situation which Mr. Vizard held, it was no unusual course for a gentleman to hold two or more offices under the Crown. He trusted that the House would be satisfied as to the propriety of the appointment, both on account o f t h e p ecu niary saving, and also fr o m the adva ntage wh i c h must b e d er i ve ! fr o m s uc h ass i s t ance . As to t h e necess i ty " office, he th oug h t t h at two o pi n i o ns could not exist. H e of appointing a Solicitor to the Home would confid en tl y l eave th e m atter in the hands of the House.—( C r i es of Divide, divide.") Col. SIFT HO RP was at a loss to know why Mr. Vi zard had been selected, when so many other competent persons might have been appointed to fill the office. The whole affair was a job. Mr. 11 UM E said he would take this opportunity of ask ing whether the Government intended to intro.luce a Bill for the reenlation of the Court of Bankruptcy ? The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said the Lord Chan cellor was about to bring in a Bill on that subject. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman then made a few observa tions in defence of Mr. Viz ird's appointment. Mr. GOULRURN would support bin Hon. and Gal lant Friend's motion in case it went to a division, but ho would recommend him ti withdraw. Colonel SIBTHORP—The present is an unfortunate hour..—( Loud cries of " Spoke, splice," " Chair, chair , " " Divide, divide," and much laughter, in the midst of which the Hon. and Gallant Member said he would not trouble the House with a division. FINE ARTS. On the motion of Mr. HAWES the following Members were appointed the Select Cosmittee on the Fine Arts: — Mr. Hawes, Mr. Labouehere, Sir Robert Peel, Mr. Gaily Knight, Mr. Hume, Mr. Wyse, M r. Bl a k e, Si r R o bert Harry hulls, Lord Brabazo n , L or d Francis Egerton , Mr kwart, Mr. Manes, Colonel R aw d on, M r. H enry Th o mas Hope, and Mr. Pusey, THE SUN, LONDON, rnmAY, MAY 7, lB4l_._ Mr. HUME said that as there were so few Members present, he would postpone the motion of which he had given notice, to call the attention of the House to the Re port of the Printing Committee, and to its recommends tinns in regard to returns to be moved for in the House. Th.; Hon. Member trusted that when he brought the sub ject under tl.e consideration of the House, there would be a fuller attendance.—Motion postponed. The Exchequer Bills (11,000,0001.) Bill was read a second time. The other Orgers of the Day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at a (barter past Seven o'Clock. SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS. FROM Tim EVENING PAPERS OF YEsTERPAY. G LO B E.—The country is to choose between statesmen who have something to say to them, and statesmen who have nothing to say to them, about their most urgent in terests--between men who have views, and men who have no views, of the course to be taken, in the present commercial and financial crisis—for that is what it really amounts to—the crisis which must decide our future pros perous progress, or distress and decline. There is indeed no occasion for alarm in the amount of deficiency occasioned in our revenues by increased expenditure. There is no cause of alarm for the present, but much of consideration for the future. Our expenditure has again outstripped our income, and the question arises, has our economy no resources but those of times of national and commercial warfare ? Are we again to run the gauntlet through a new series of loans and taxes ? Are we again to regard ourselves as isolated, as the war party proclaimed France last year— again to meet Berlin decreca by Orders in Council, and take exclusion from European and American markets as a matter of course ? Are we to suffer Prussian leagues to consolidate, Brazilian treaties to expire, American tariffs to rise against us, without a thought of averting the consequences? Are we to rest in this easy attitude, in the face of the warning which is given us by a revenue stationary despite of increased taxation stationary, despite the attempt to raise, by increased taxes on con sumption, the means of meeting the recent increase of public expenditure The limit of taxation in this direction has clearly been reached ; and to find that we have reached that limit is surely sufficient warning to !examine whether we have not sinned against wise maxims of pub lic economy, and whether it is not in recurrence to those maxims that we must seek salvation. We find that from 1833 to 1836, notwithstanding the reductions made in each year both in the Customs and Excise duties, the receipts rapidly increased, even in a greater ratio than the supposed increase of population. In the four following years, instead of the surplus (of 14,646/. in 1834, of 1,707,0931. in 1835, of 2,075,991/, in 1836), we find a falling-off in the proceeds of taxes upon con sumption, and we now find we have reached the limit to which those taxes can be raised. All this, it may be said, indicates only temporary depression ; and the springs of prosperity, and sources of revenue, will recover their vigour. Surely, however, it is the duty of States men to examine the causes of diminished resources (in proportion to increased population and public expendi ture); and if perverse restrictions arc amongst those causes, to propose their removal, as a weight upon the springs of prosperity fatal to their elastic play. STANDARD.—The proposition before the country is to admit foreign sugar on such terms as shall entitle it to compete with the sugar of our own free colonies. The proposition must mean this, whatever be the scale of duties suggested, or it means nothing ; for if foreign sugar be still charged with a prohibitory duty, neither can the revenue be better for the change, nor the article cheaper or more abundant. The supply of foreign sugar must, for much the greater part, come from the Brazils and from Cuba, and from whatever quarter it may come, it must be the pro duction of slaves. What, then, is the state of the slave trade in the Brazils and in Cuba ? We entreat that our readeis will mark the distinction between slavery and the slave.trade. Slavery, without the slave-trade, is an evil ; but it is an evil infinitely mitigated by the value of the slave to his proprietor. Slavery, accompanied by the slave-trade, is the evil in its whole abominable wickedness. The extent of importation is not alone the measure of mur ders committed in procuring the slaves; it is as certainly the index of the murders and cruelties committed in the coun try to which the slaves are carried. As we have seen, no importation of slaves was found necessary to our West India colonies during a quarter of a century, because iu those colonies slaves were protected by British law ; but what is the case with the Brazils and with Cuba ? In the 34th page of Sir Thomas Fowell Buxton's work on the Atrican Slave-trade, published last year—_a work which we could wish to see in every hand at this moment—we find the number of slaves IM PORTED ANNUALLY into THE BRAZILS AND CUBA rated upon the averages of 183 6-1837, at ONE HUNE'RED AND FIFTY THOUSAND. The number is incredible ; but whoever will follow Sir Thomas in his minute and careful calculation must come to the conclusion that it is not exaggerated. Here, then, is a waste of the lives of slaves in the Brazils and in Cuba, calling for an annual supply of one hundred and filly thousand, notwithstanding the tendency of the Negro population to increase beyond the ordinary rate of the human race. The waste of life which calls for an annual supply of 150,000, must exceed 200,000. This, however, is not all: bad as it is, that 150,000 of our fellow-creatures are yearly dragged into slavery and exile, to replace more than 150,000 mur dered in their chains, as bad or worse remains. Sir Thos. Powell Buxton calculates that for 150,000 slaves landed 250,000 are destroyed in the capture or the middle passage, but as the calculation (p. 200) is short and clear we will copy it :-- The annual victims are Viz., one-half perish before embarkation 200,000 One-fourth in the middle passage 50,000 Landed only And of these one-fifth die in the seasoning, leaving in fact but 120,000 slaves available, at a cost of 400,000 lives. The slavery and slave.trade of the Brazils and Cuba from this calculation appears to cost 400,000 lives, for the 150,000 imported are merely necessary to replace 150,000 previously destroyed. And this is the accursed traffic which we are summoned, to perpetuate and pamper by bounties, in the hope, forsooth, of realising 700,000/.—less than the deficiency in the Post-office revenue alone ! COURIER.—The Ministerial press is right enough, at least we hope so, in its announcement this morning. One of them dolorously exclaims—" The tactics of the Tories begin to be unfolded. West India monopolists, timber monopolists, and corn monopolists, have entered into a treaty of alliance, offensive and defensive. The We it Indian advance first, under a banner on which is inscribed "rho rights of the negro,' and No slave grown sugar.' " It is only by such a cornbinion of force that the inte rests of one and every class can be defended, and the murderous assaults of the common foe of each decisively repelled. Would these kind and considerate destrue fives, for example, have the agricultural interest to stand tamely by, hands crossed in apathetic acquiescence, whilst West India interests were sacrificed, and Cana dian staples rendered valueless ? Or, on the other hand, would they counsel to the colonial inte rests the suicidal policy of aiding and abetting to pull down the home landed interest, the great parent of all ? No, no; the Government scribes are right enough sa far as they go, but they are not right to all the extent, for East India interests arc banded in the same cauFe with the West, and the great shipping interest of the country is already among the first and f o remost in the field to c on t en d for the rights and the protection equally due to all. It is indeed a "holy league," and will shortly ripen into a " Covenant" also, when retell and every interest now so suddenly menaced in the first and vital conditions, not alone of their prosperity, but of their ry existence. shall have had somewhat more tme to meet together in deliberation, and to mature their plans fur the overthrow of a scheme of the most comprehen sive and gi:Ontie spoilatiori which ever was meditated by ia volutianary government since or before the days of the first French Revolution, when church pro perty was confiscated one day and the rights of property of the noble and wealthy swept away the next with the &an litian of the monarchy itself. We shall not have long to wait now for the decision of the all-important question, whether that Government, blind, besotted, and furious as Samson caught in the toils, shall have strength left, in the desperation of present struggles for ascendancy, to pull down the pillars of the State, and so finally to .accelerate in any case the advent of their own fall and irretrievable prostration hereaf,Pr. THE PRICE OF BREAD IN PARIS AND LONDON.—The presmt assize or fixed price of the first quality of bread in Paris, as established by the municipal authority of that city, is 27 centimes for the loaf of the weight of one kilogramme. which, at the present course of ex change in Paris on London, as above, for bills of ose months' date, or short paper, of 25f. 30c. money per pound sterling, answers to 41(1. and very near three-fifths (or, more exactly, fifty-seven hundredths) of a farthing for the English four pound loaf; and the present price at which the best, or, as it is termed, " full .priced " bread is currently sold in London, being 91d. for the four-pound loaf (although in so:ne quarters of the town lod. is demanded), shows that that the best bread is dearer in London than in Paris by and rather more than two-fifths (or, more exactly, forty-three hundredths) of a farthing for the four-pound loaf, being at the rate of one hundred ant four and very nearly three-quarters (within a mi nute fraction) per cent., or more than d ou bl e th e p r i ce f or the same quantity and quality ; and that the same amount of money, namely, 20., as ab ove , w hi c h can purchase in London no more than four po un d s of the best brea d , t h ere ma y b e x a es regulated price in ob tained at this ti me i n P aris eight pounds t h ree ounces an d l t second of bre a quality, assize o r fixed wheaten,rather exceeding h a lf a d ram, English weig h t , o f th e fi rs t qua ybyi law, is at pre. Paris for bread of the sent 20 centimes f or th e l oa f weighing fy one kilogramme, cor esponding with 3id. an d throe-quarters of a farthing for the English four-pound loaf ; and as the price of wheaten or se email-priced bread in London is now Bd. for the four-pound loaf, it is seen that bread of that quality is dearer in London than in Paris by 4 1 ,4 d. and one-quarter of a farthing for the four-pound loaf, b e i ng cons i derably more t h an double the price for the same qualit y of bread, as f or the same price, namely, 8., as above, whi c h i s t h e cast of but four poun d s o f w h eaten bread in London, th ere may b e bought in P ar i s nine p oun d s four ounces, and thirteen drams, English weight, of the second quality of bread. SA D IVltstiAP.—From a gentleman, who re sides in St. James's-street, London, we have the following note under date May 1 :—" An alarming fire occurred last night close to my abode, which not only dui a great deal of wasmischief,jadeofthreatenedstilllady'smaidseriousconsequences. placing a lighted candle too near a giuze window curtain, the casement itself being at the time open. In a very brief space the flames spread rapidly, and on finding the place too hot fur her, she very coolly collected her mistress's diamonds, and decamped without saying a syllable on the subject. The alarm was first given from without, and anxiously as the firemen worked to save the property and the adjoining buildings , very little of the furniture w as rescued. Among the sufferers are the Rev. Mr. Candlish and his two non-intrusion coadjutors, who have come to town, it is said, for the purpose of tutoring the Duke of Argyll. After depositing their credentials at the house, they were out dining with Mr. Fox Maule, and on re turning home found the whole artillery of the cause they ad vocate, manuscripts and sermons, bag and baggage, reduced to dust and ashes. es Courier. P wshtiochbe lands ap plied for by the prop r i etors kUnlow F n O G R ias L A WYERS.-4t w as mentioned to a thatwell of Doolan and R e ddi ng are ordered to b e hanged) ; Ah I said t ho wit, it i s very c l ear t h at if t h ere is not an interdict there will be a s uspens i on . —Glasg Chronicle. Crotshill OUTRAGE AT A CONVENT. ( Abridged from the Dublin Evening Post! of Tuesday.) HENRY-STREET POLICE-OFFICE.—CONINIITTAI. To PRI SON OF TIM REV. TRF.SIIANI DAMES GREGG FOR CONTEMPT OF COURT, AND REFUSING TO am BAlL.—lesterdar, at au early hour, the neighbourhood of Henry -street office wa crowded _ by persons of all ages cad SeXe3, the Rev. T. D. Gregg, and two other persons, having been summoner' for an outrage committed at the convent on George's-hill So early as eleven o'clock the office was thronged to the greatest excess. The crowd in the street had by thi time increased to an enormous extent ; at least from four to five thousand persons had assembled, and it was fount' necessary to call out the assistance of the cavalry and in fantry police to preserve order and keep a passage in thi street. At twelve o'clock, Mr. Gregg and his two friends entered the office with Mr. Bowen Thompson. Dr. Kelly shortly after entered, and took his seat on the bench. Mr. Curran then said, he appeared there as Counse on the part of the ladies and Prioress of George's-hill Convent, against the three persons now at the bar, %h -were summoned for having assaulted Miss Ruth Hanna', Wiley, and for having used threatening language to Mrs. Delphini Phepoc, the Prioress of said Convent. It was well-known fact theta Convent of the Presentation Order 01 Nuns had existed in George's-hill, in this city, for the his seventy-five years. The ladies of this house had esta blished and maintained a school for the education o' orphans and other destitute children. One of the presen complainants, Miss Wiley, was the daughter of respectable parents, and having lost her father, who was a Protestant, she was thrown ou the world, and when she came to the age of discretion she chose to follow another faith, as she had a perfect right to do, being of an age capable 04 judging for herself. She having taken this course, applies to the ladies of the convent to be admitted into the house, but they told bur she must have the consent of her friends before they took her into the house. She then went away and came again on last Ash Wednesday, whets she was admitted. The nuns did nothing in this business but accept of the young lady, as she was totally unprovided for, nor did they act in any way to provoke the ire of any of the friends of this young girl, much less that of a perfect stranger to the whole family of the Wily's. On Friday even ing last, Mr. Gregg, in company with Mr. Wiley, the elder and his nephew, came to the convent between the hours of five and six o'clock, and on that occasion Mr, Gregg made use of the most foul and disgusting epithets against what he was pleased to term the Popish contamination of convents. He called the prioress a liar, and made use of other language calculat e d t o h ur t the feelings of any re spectable lady. The young lady was forcibly dragged from the convent, and Mr. Gregg stood looking on aid. ing and abetting the act; the people in the neighbour hood were sttracted by the cries of the young woman, and when they succeeded in getting her from the hands of Wily, the younger, Mr. Gregg called the house an idolatrous mass-house, and said it was a den of prosti tution, and that the inmates were all a set of —, and that all who entered it would be damned to hell. He (Mr. Curran) had another charge against him for libel, which he would bring forward in another place, but for the present he would content himself by reading a document published by Mr. Gregg. Mr. Gregg—l acknowledge this document. Dr. Kelly—Mr. Curran, do you intend to give this de cument in evidence? Mr. Curran—Yes. Mr. Gregg admits it. Mr. Gregg—l do admit it to be mine. Mr. Curran then read the document, which was printed in the shape of a letter, and referred to the case in question. Miss Ruth Hannah Wily, examined by Mr. Curran—l am fifteen years of age; my father is dead; I applied to get into the convent last Ash Wednesday ; the reason I made that application was my religion ; they received me after a great deal to do ; I called three times before I was taken in ; they made inquiries about me ; I remained there since last Ash Wednesday; all my friends had access to me, and Ito them ; I went in and out as I pleased ; I went to see my mother twice; no one was prevented to see me ; my mother was not satisfied at first, but when she saw I was inclined for it she agreed to .it; she had access to me, and I to her ; saw my brother in the convent last Friday evening; he asked me different questions; he asked did I know those around me, and was I not ashamed of myself? he then told me I must go home; I said I would not ; he pulled me out, and I caught hold of the rails in the street, and refused to go ; he forced me into the street against my will ; I cried out, then ; I saw Mr. Gregg and my uncle in the street; my uncle said, " Are you not a nice lady ?" My brother said, " Look to the time they took to strip her of her damnable beats;" when I was going back, after they let me go in, Gregg said, " You are going back to hell, and you will be damned ;" I said I am at liberty to go where I please, and I do not wish to go home. Mr. Gregg—Did you imagine any bodily fear from ate ? Witness—l know nothing at all about you. Mr. Richard Weird!. examined—Was present on Fri day evening; saw a tall young man dragging a girl out, and another girl told me not to let the girl go; Gregg was in the crowd, and told the girl not to go back, as her soul would be damned, and that the priests were sionaries from the devil : the young lady refused to go with the young man, and I asked her three times was she satis fied to go ? she said she was not, and I then interfered, and said the girl should not go with her brother; Gregg then went off for a car; I took the girl from the young man, and she ran back into the convent ; the two Wilys then went off, and I saw no more about it. Mr. Gregg then proceeded to address the Bench. He said it was to be presumed that he was incapable of using so foul language as that attributed to him. He did not be lieve the inmates of the house were what was stated. He spoke against them as a strong-hold of superstition and idolatry, and this he had a right to do, as he believed con vents to be dens of superstition, and he, as a clergyman, sworn to uphold the Books of Homilies, which he held in his hand (here he exhibited a large volume). Dr. Kelly—We must restrain you altogether, as you have gone out of the question. Mr. Gregg—l am a marked man, and this is an unfair attempt to put me—a public charactei as I am—to put me down by a trumpery charge got up against me. Ile then went on with his statement for a short time, which being quite irrelevant to the point, Dr. Kelly told him he could not go on in this way, as his statement was not to be confirmed by evidence. Mr. Curran—Let him go on—l have no objection ;it will prove our case the better. Dr. Kelly, after consulting some time with his brother Magistrates, proceeded to deliver judgment. He said__ Mr. Gregg, Thomas 'l'. Wily, and William Wily, the Bench have considered this case fully and most anxiously, and they have come to a unanimous conclusion on it. The unanimous opinion of the Bench was, 1 hat each of the three persons now at the bar should enter into his own re cognizance in the sum of 204, to keep the peace to all her Majesty's subjects. Mr. Gregg turned rcund to the Bench, and said in a most furious voice, and throwing himself into a menacing attitude—" I'll enter into no recognizance." Dr. Kelly—Then, Mr. Gregg, you will be clmmitted to prison, Mr. Gregg—l don't care; lead me to prison—to death. Thi.; decision has been come to by that Oointing to Mr. Duffy) idolatrous Magistrate on the Bench ! A scene of the greatest confusion here ensued. Se veral persons rushed forward, and it was feared for some time that violent hands would be laid on his Reverence. The uproar. na: eontinued for several minutes, and was quite of an indescribable character. Mr. Gregg's friends endeavoured to take him out, but he refused to go, and c Mired several of them, lle wound his arms in a most furious manner, shouting out " I am condemned by that idolatrous Magistrate—that idolatrous Magistrate !!" After aome tine, order being partially restore I, and the office, by great exertions of the police beiv partly clearal, Dr. 'Kelly and Mr. Studdart requested Mr. Duffy to lodge informations against Mr. Gregg, which Mr. Duffy accordingly did, and swore them before his brother Ma gistrates, ahen they required Mr. Gregg to enter into his own recognizance; in a sum of Mot to keep the peace. After an hour of the greate , t excitement, during which period the friends of Mr.,Gregg endeavoured to make him sign a bail-bond, but he refused to do so, aid at length, Dr. Kelly told him he stood committed for contempt of Court, till the next quarter sessions of the peace for the City of Dublin ; and also for one week, for refusing to enter into security on the first charge. Mr. Gregg was sent out by the hack entrance to the office, ender a strong escort of police. A carriage was in waiting for him there, and he was at once sent off to Richmond Bridewell. ROYAL OLYMPIC TII EA Tit E.—WC paid a visit to thii delightful little theatre last evening, and were much pleased at seeing the house so well and respectably attended. The first piece, Lost and Won, from the pro lific pen of Mark Lemon, is one of the best-written and most interesting piece 4 we have seen for sonic time, and wa3 excellently acted by Messrs. Baker, Parry, Bro.ikes, Ilalford, aad Miqs Fortegeao. In the builesque, Gileso Scroggini, the lessee, Mr. G. Wild, proved his high comic powers in this style of acting, and we advise our friends who wish for a hearty laugh, at a moderate price, to pay this theatre a It appears from the Bombay Times of March 31st that Colonel Baumgardt,of H. M. 2d Royali, hss been appo'ntcd Commandant of the gartison at Bombay. BOMBAY, MARCII 31. News have reached Bombay of a combination of the Persians and Berathees to oust our King, Sha Sujah, from Aiighanigtan. The Briti,ll Mission has been sent away from ilerat, and ar rived at Candahar and Prince Karrirain claims the throne of his ancestors as being the eldest son of an elder brother. This will make a commotion in the country, no doubt; and by the late event at Kujjuck, it would appear that the sepoys have shown a disinclination to meet the Afghans and Beelochees without Europeans. They appear to be waiting in Sciatic for the Governor-General's orders, and while they are doing so, the country above the Ghat, where there are no Europeans nearer than Cabul, may be lost. It is reported that a wing of the 17th are to go to Scinde, but they can do nothing at Homb,y without the sanction of the Governor-General. EXECUTION IN FRANCE.--.IIIC COUTrier of Blois mentions the execution of a young man, named Gouin, who had been condemned for the murder of a female farming servant at the last Assizes. An immense mass of people were from an early hour in attendanc e at the place of execution. Every thing was ready at seven o'clock, but an accident oe curred which prolonged the mental agony of the culprit. The executioner, in trying the knife of the guillotine, whilst rais ing it up and le!tiog it tall to make it act freely, broke oil a piece of wood called the lunette, and thus prevented the ma chine from working. The accident rendered it necessary to put off the execution until the machine was repaired ; but, for a length of time no carpenter would consent ti act, anti the Proeureur do Itoi was obliged to issue three summonses b ?fore any one would come forward. At length, at near twelve o'clock, the repairs were finished, and in five minutes the unfor tunate man ceased to exist. GOOD LUCK.—On the day of the inauguration of President Harrison, a gentleman from Virginia, familiar with the history and character of Mr. Tyler, remarked to an acquaintance that the new President would not live thirty days.--" Nonsense I" was the reply. "The old gentleman is hale and hearty as you or I. See how active and alert he mover. He is good for ten years certain." " Ile looks %cry well I admit, but I tell you he wont live a month, notwithstanding. No constitution or state of health can stand John Tyler's good luck."—New York Herald. THE PRISON o CLICIIY. (From M. Barthele,ny Maurice's work on the Prisons of the Seine.) The year 1838 was ssildened by the occurrence of a sui..". aide in Clichy—that of the Count de R:oberti. This Count was the son of an Italian General, who died in the French service ; and he had the misfortune to fall in love with a ;Dung French actress, and the still greeter misfortune to marry her. He loved her with an Italian fervour; she re turaed his love with little gratitude and much coquetry. After having impaired his fortune in satisfying the extra /agora caprices of his wife, the Count de Roberti found 'iimself within the walls of Clichy on the 27th of No. vember, 1837. At first ho was astonished at not reeeiv aig any visits from her whom he had loved so dis tractedly ; at length he began to suspect that, far from seeking to put an end to his captivity, she herst It was the occasion of it ; and that, in order to devote herself more :asily to her paramour, she had made the latter buy ep the titles or bonds by virtue of which her husband was 'etained in durance vile ! From that moment his prism 'weame ingupportable. He was not ashamed of recounting 0 his companions what he considered as a certain misfor our., because he took occasion to s,eak at the same time f his plow of vengeance, and because in his opinion the iusband who avenges himself is not dishonoured. Gloomy, •acitutn, and fierce in proportion as his terrible ideas irri -ated him the more deeply, Roberti spent whole days alone in his chamber, only coming out fora moment about ten Imes a-lay to buy paper at the cantine. He began 20 letters to his wife, and as many times tore them to pieces, finding the paper too cold to receive all the emotions of love and anger which his heart contained. He was heard at intervals articulating the name of his wife, old that of him whom he imagined to be her lover; then followed sobs, cusses, and menaces of death. He asked but for one hour of liberty to go and stab the two beings who had broken his heart, and then he would willingly re enter his prison, or mount the scaffold overwhelmed with dishonour. Already was the unhappy Roberti the object of especial :urveillance on the part of- the employes of the prison, w hen, on the 3d of August, the director perceived that, after having worked upon the ceiling of his cell (situate 9n the fourth story) with a knife, he had passed the night in trying to set fire to a beam with his candle, which was almost consumed. No doubt he hoped to secure for him self a passage over the tiles, but what would then have become of him, at a height of sixty feet, and with a wall to leap over? Full of pity for such a state of madness, the director refrained from employing any of the means of punishment with which the rules provided him, but contented himself by making Roberti descend to the second story, in order that, in case of fresh attempts, his neighbours above and below might " save him from himself." On the sth, towards four o'clock in the afternoon, Roberti, approach ing the table upon which the catitinier distributed the poi_ Lions of the prisoners, seized his kitchen knife, and, hiding it beneath his great coat, hastened back to his apartment, and plunged it into his belly. From that moment he ut tered not a word, and expired two hours afterwards, in spite of the cares which were lavished upon him. His compatriots obtained from the Director permission to pay him the last honours according to the custom of their country. They washed and perfumed his body, en circled it with a crown of flowers, laid it upon a bed of state, in the midst of a number of wax tapers, and spent the night in prayer. The next day the body was borne to ihe chapel Pantaleoni sang with his powerful voice the fine mass of Cherubini, and Graziani resorted to a piano of Plcyel, to imitate the majestic sounds of the organ. This last homage rendered by great artists to a companion in captivity, to a compatriot who had died far from his country, young, handsome, of good prospects, the victim of a misplaced love, and of a bad law, was both sad and beautiful. It is said that an unknown hand raised a stone upon the grave. It is said that this stone is often strewn with flowers, and that often a woman is seen there kneeling down and weeping. Of all the legends of the debtors' prisons the most in teresting is that of Kollewig. Kollewig was a Swedish noble, the son of a chamberlain of Bernadotte. His fa ther, in sending him to Paris, had placed him in partner.. ship with a man possessing great influence amongst the corps diplornatique. Unhappily he became pleasing to the wife of his partner ; he was young and handsome. " The vengeance of husbands," says the Italian proverb, " was not invented by the Devil, because he was never .married." Thus, then, the diplomatist presented to the young man a balance-sheet, in which the latter owed him 150,000 f. ; and on the 10th of October, 1829, he imprisoned him in St. Pelagie. The handsome Swedt shed many tears; but at last, on the 28th of the follow• ing July, the 6ents, with which you are acquainted, re• stored him to liberty. For two years he resided abroad never removing far off from the frontier of that France in which he had left the better part of himself, his first illusions, and his youthful affections. At length came a letter from the lady; whether it was an infamous act of treacherj on her part, or whether the unhappy woman had been con. strained to do it, nobody knows. He was told in this letter that everything was forgotten, and that he could now re- turn, He did return. The Noble Count, his enemy, in vited him to dine at the Palais Royale, in order the bettet to point him out to the Garden du Commerce, and to de. liver him up to them. On the 3d of November, 1832, h( was reinstated in his prison. Thirteen months afterwards his coffin came out of it. Kollewig had only one thought, and that was of liberty and love ; after many fruitless at tempts, he procured a long rope, he had sawed a bar from a window on the fourth story. and he intended to let him self down into the street, but all was discovered, and, without saying anything to him, they changed his cell. He went thither, but the next morning he did not reply to the appei, and when the registrar came into his room, he tried in vain to awake him ; in his hands was a portrait ; in his fixed eyes there were traces of tears ; at his feet was a stove of charcoal. Kollewig, the handsome Swede, had not, perhaps, ceased to love ; but he had ceased to suffer FACTS FOR ENGLAND. It is exactly twelve years since the Catholic Relief Bill was passed into a law. The position of Ireland at that period was one of striking grandeur. We said, on a late occasion, that when we read, in the relations of foreign travellers, the conclusions they arrive at, profound and most philosophical, their reasoning on our history, wha ther in its past events or future teachings, we are in clined to doubt that it is of Ireland—degraded and despised Ireland—that such things are written or such anticipations formed. But we never can repeat it too often, the history of our people and or our oppressions will be a hand-book for posterity. Our circumstances, our ne lineal character, our religion, the peculiar parties that ac quired an ascendancy amongst us, will be all canvassed, and, as is proximity with England, will form one of the greatest and most instructive pictures of History. We are too near to understand or appreciate the magnitude and importance of the influences of each day now passing over us ; but, in the present state of European govern ments, the battle of human freedom, and the destinies of countless generations, in the eye of the philanthropist or statesman, are being tried and determined on by the strug gle begun and gaining. strength between a party in the Empire, anti the whole Irish natiou. Fresh f,om the crui ible of persecution, pure in their morals, ranking highly in the scale cf human intelli;ence, there is no family of the human kind better fitted to try its strength with old and time worn abuses; and ne are en thusiastic in the hope, that, in spite of all, Ireland will achieve her proper place in usefulness and prosperity amongst the nations of Europe. We feel that sic only give expression to a spirit now universally pervading the nation. We thank Lord Stanley and his party for arous ing it. It is independent of all merely party questions. We are beginning truly to feel that we are a nation, and, with that feeling, justice cannot be long safely withheld. No more magnificent spectacle w as ever p resented to the world than Ireland in 1829. The population were he poorest, as they continue the most wretched, in Europe; they were lower, far lower, than the serfs sold with the soil in Russia, or the slaves passing by convey ance of plantations in the [tidies. The slave was a pro perty, and the serf was an estate; but the soil was sold in Ireland, and the wretched tiller was consigned to atarva time England, mighty England, with her wealth, her power, her worthless Sovereign, her arrogant Aristocracy, and her haughty ChurcifEstahliihment, all was arrayed against any measure of religious toleration, much less of Catholic equality ; and yet, although we had, in addition, a hostile garrison of Orange bigots—stern, combined, peaceable, and unyielding, Ireland forced a recognition of her rights, and, to save the chances of cis il war, the I)uke of Wellington declaied Catholic Ireland admissible to the rights of the English Constitution. We owe nothing to England—or rather we do, and we would easily leave the enumeration of our obli gations to our haughty Mistress. Oh I she should blush of very shame to scan her progress, and mark her own misdeeds in Ireland ; but, nevertheless, we wish well to England. liar present station is a magnificent one—a mighty empire and unrivalled political eminence ; as far as philosophical speculation is concerned no Government of antiquity eter afforded clearer illustrations of the noblest theories cf sage statemea. Ruler of 160,000,000, her power is in her superior intelligence and civilization, and in tee truth and justice of the principles of her laws and go verament. No other causes could have ever produced, or maintained undisputed, such a splendid dominion; and, in CO far, anti as the g uardian of human freedom and enlight. enment, England and her destinies will ever be to the rest of the world a subject of the deepest interest. Even to Ireland, who has so little cause to love Eng land, these are, in her dawning strength, considerations of weighty meaning. It would not be our interest to turn ourselves from England ; the internal management of our own affairs must, as we believe, for reasons of even State convenience, be eventually and usefully conceded to us ; but, apart front England, they that love Ireland's prospe. ity ran never desire her political existence. We cannot, therefore, read, without keen indigna tion, the daily and coolly caleulaied falsehoods that the Timis in chief, and the Tory press of England, are multiplying, to weaken the ties 'of mutual interest that bind the two ki'igdoms. Our highly re Teeter] Catemporary, The S WI, in its number of Wedge day, makes excuses for our calling the Times " a convicted liar ;" but it is not in excited national feeling, it is in calm deliberate judgment, teat we re-assert it. The Irish people look with indignant sacra on the eii=grac:fully misapplied talents, wealth, and influeece of that journal, and refer to the Lumber of Wed• uc slay morning for a proud' of its unpi incipled profligacy. A fevourite topic with the Times was the crimes and drunken. fressofthe Irish. An elaborate and shamefully violent art icie disgraces it s eolutona, written expressly to traduce a noble people for abandoning the very crime that formed the staple and groundwork of the former invective. Carlyle was right when he said the Times was the " Bible of England," and, behold, that clever but base hireling is exciting English ire against Irishmen, because they have thought proper to become temperate. But they forget ! Whew there is deep wrong, thought and calm bring deep aid dangerous resolve. We, therefore, ask, and earnestly,of the Liberal press o England, to set us light with that country. We are will ing to believe that, if things were honestly and strongly placed before Englishmen, a tardy but prudent justice would be done to Ireland.—Cork Southern Reporter. EVIArNT ING EDITION. CANDIA. (From the Augsinergli Ga:ette.) ATHENS, APRIL, 12..—Affairs in Crete are going oa extremely well for Vie Greeks ; the whole island half risen to a man ; and the Terks confined to the towns , have not yet dared to take any measures against the in: surgents. The insurrection—and this is a point that ! t is of import ance t o i ns i st upon, as those which canno t fail to break out before lon g i n Thessaly and Epirus will r e ' semble it in this particular—the insurrection, I repeat , has a perfectly different character to that of the ye ar 1821. At that period it was a war of extermination and re tribution, it was a struggle between religions s ad people Islam against the Cross the Greek against the Osman race. It is now no longer is now no longer the conflicting sentiments of c hurch and nation, but political interests that a r e the element a nd soul of the approaching struggle. It is a wrestling be' tween the principle of civilization, legal right, and pro- ions gress implanted in the heart of the Christian populat of the E as t th a t now commences t o s p r i ng u p an d flourish' end the principle of arbitrary might and rude force that has so long been the basis of the whole edifice of the Turkish State, and that still, is spite of the Monitor Ottoman, in spite of the hatt'-scheriff of Gulbslllo in spite of the European frock-coats of the Turkish l diplomatists, an d t h e b o ttl es o f c hampagne that sparkle on the tables of the great of the land, fortol the last rotten foundation-pile of the tottering ;edi fice. We sp ea k w i t h t h e f u ll est an d most i nt i mate Conviction, when we say that the second great struggle hetw e bo Greek and T ur k t h at commences i n t h e fi rs t year of the fifth decade of this our century, will be a struggle of P r i la c : ciples ; and hi s t or y a ff or d s us t h e great an d su blime ' e ,; son, that in a confli c t o f mora l i nterests it i s the inward {{ stronger principle that necessarily and infallibly prevail esen when in the out se t i t may appear t h e weaker, a n " be embodied under the weaker form. And it is this COn' viction—a conviction of which they are more or less eon ; scious —that now animates th e Greeks and that g loated through the somewhat bombastic and high-sounding phrases of the proclamation lately issued by the Cretan!: It is with this conviction that that they are full of c on dence, difficult as th e circumstances around them may 91)- pear a . t first, in spite of the proximity of the great fleet in spite of the deficiency of any prominent c hief- --I° spite of the material want of arms and ammunition. Tbfe first engagements will prove who is the best leader and chic' and victory will win them muskets and sabres. In the Wall while, the foreign diplomatists at our Court, as it would aP.: pear, are pressing hard upon our Government with tilt notes, and want to ma k e i t responsible for every succour re men or war st o re s th at may contrive to leave our port i e va Crete. The nu m b er o f t h e A t h ena o f y es terday, in a verr / 1 . vrtitten artic!e, throws m ore light upon this d',l; o. matic pressure from wi hout. " Our Ministry, _ says, " does w h a t it can ; b ut ev en if it were t°_ employ the whole army in guarding the many tboo sand miles of extended coast, it would be inipossihnl! for it to prevent small barks from stealing away unseen: and by what right, we might ask, is the Ministry, or t 5, foreign diplomacy assembled here, to prevent any Cre or, generally speaking, any Greek from going to hell) big brother in his need, when at the time of the first Grer insurrection so many English, French, and Germans b F: tened openly and unrestrainedly to aid the llellene ousel Dirl not a certain German Sovereign then stand first sou foremost with the noblest example ? And are the A miss' sadors of th e Q ua d rup l e Alliance now to degrade the an' thoritios of G reece i nto t h e i r po li ce i ns p e ctors is the tot of Islam ?" Such is pretty nearly the reply of the AO°, to what has transpired reap ecting the contents of the dipe ) ; matic notes above alluded to ; and although the views die t . expressed may not completely stand the test before the U bunal of dipl omat i c theory, they will most assured l y ro :. ceive the full f orce of valid right before the tribunal 0t public opinion, not only in Greece itself, but everywberil else iu Christian Europe. The strangest reports are afloat as to the first incite merit given to the Cretan insurrection. The Governor, Mustapha Pasha, and the English Consul on the island 'i are said to ha ve a t tac k e d each other in recriminations .0 the most astonishing nature in the presence of other ent i ; nesses, and with th e attestat i on on both sides of written e gooddocum g e e n a t t a l r e y m paper s ; at t n fi d r it st would e appear e t ha . t e, bo a tli tho t , 7e,.. naturally each wi t h a very different ends p the present tura matters have taken. E ode FFECTS OF LIGHTNING. , --A correNpo- tt ° effects of lightning were wonderfully and awfully disPia3 e e r that village on Friday evening, 2d instant. The show Ww very severe in that vicinity, the lightning re markablY reer t and in several i ns t ances followed almost instantly by "rhi4 e ha° —leading every one to su pp ose i t struck near by. I,‘ since been a scer t a i ne d to be the fact. Two oak tre e s, one foot to eighteen inches in diameter, standing abo ut Peen feet from each other, in a grove of woods owned hY . , oft Moses Whitney, were struck apparently by a horizon tal ars of the lightnin g , an d f rom the height of fifteen feet the roots, were literally torn into basket -stuff; the tops F r ont trees were thrown upon the ground entirely uninjured: o _ , tw o the base of the trees it spread in four different directio _s ocks , of which were from east to west, through two ledges ei r r ent is one of which is about three rods in thickness ; a small_ w berit visible where it entered the ledge, and a very large 0 it passed out—large fragments of rock having been bro ken oo r . and thrown to a distance. From the ledge it passed on se; rro f eight rods, tearing up the ground, and forming a varying from six to t we l ve i nc h es i n depth; where trees sjo i strutted its path it went two or three feet into the earth , came out again on the other side.—Mercantile Journal. No JUSTICE FOR IRELAND. --Lo r d Aro rew - a peth's Irish Voters' Bill was , on Th ursday night, defeate d in Committ ee by a ma j ot i ty o f 300 to 289—a nnajoriti eleven in a house (including tellers, Chairman a d Speaker) of 595 Members; leaving of the whole O S., ber but sixty-three absentees, paired or otherwislsa. sent. It has b een o f ten sa id by such Irish Libera_.,` s ,lo seek not fo r " R epea l , " that Mr. O'Connell u"''sp to give up the ag i tat i on of that question, and to t ply himself t o suc h measures of Reform as are practies of at the hands of a British Senate, viz. :_an inere o ps ,, Irish Rrepresentatives in the House of Commetia, slots of the franchise, Vote by Ballot, &e. i to Impeial Parliament is ready and willing to do justice as Ireland, if what is practicable be only asked, but let Repeal they will refuse at all hazards.. Non-ReP„eurba say, and have said, why not give an Imperial It i t p meta a fair trial ?—and that then, if justice appear s n 4O , lie had from it, they will all beccme Repealers theinsel kis g Will any of those Imperial Parliament-justice-seebeca gentlemen now say that a sufficient trial has not hn ag given ; an d t h at, so far from a semblance of justian;T . ols likely t o b e o b tained, every proceeding of a "(lois Senate is marked by a deadly bate towards . 00 . country? O'C onne ll has over and over said, eat,jaest tice is not t o b e had from an English Parliament, `4,,b0 events have p rove d that be was right, and not those is thought diff erent l y from him), and that Repeal w as only panacea for the evils of this unfortunate conn"; 1 Let the Irish wait-a -whiles for justice at the hante. English men su ff er repeated insults as long as they Pi'ehst, Irishm en i n general bear in mind with Mr. Buller, 1:00 if they are not i mmediately righted, they possess the 111— and cour age to r i ght themselves. —Limerick Reporter. 9 COPYRIG HT IN SERNlpracticeA practice IIS recently ariscu of taking down in short-hand the serhfib-- of first-rate preach ers , an d of forthwith printing and pub lic t be ing the m f or the pecuniary benefit of the person by whrlintba short-hand writer is employed. We arc asked -wheele r 0 preacher can c h eck such a practice by any proceedings et th the Courts o f L aw or Equity ? In other words, wi le )( pi" such an a ct as we have mentioned amounts to an Bet de racy? The two main principles upon which copyright iv ponds, are these—first, that it i s or i g i nally a species of by perty ; secon d ly , that it d oes not pass to other Ban ds t the act o f pu bl ication. There can be no doubt tha tbs , sermon, lik e a poem, a treatise, a history, or any „to manuscript, is the fruit of a man's own labour that , °r oil the tim e of d e li very, it is his own property, and thatn"loo that ti me i t i s subject to his exclusive disposal-0, there ca n be no d ou b t t h at the first of the. two .:0 of of copyright is applicable to a sermon. The difficulty the question, such as it iA, will be found to arisen, tie sec on d. of thes e p r i nc i ples. The deliverya . a — e men front a pulpit amounts to a publication. The heave, listens for hi s own i nstruction, pleasure, and imp de meet. For th e same o bj ect he may reduce the same . 0 G writing; but it does not therefore follow that he may P r and publish, it for hi s p ecun i ary benefit. W e see nntb,stdels in tic relation cf the preacher to his congregation vV i , can sanction such a step. His duty is to teach and hi truct, to point out religious duty, and to persuad° td congregation to be ze,lous in discharge of it; but 11 1 1 0 ), make them a p reseit t o f an essay wh i ch they may with a profit. —Lois Mayazine. -•----- -- - -- ___ __ ___ __- - ---, ow PLATE—A. B. SAVORY an d SONS Nl.ttbo f tewring Silversmith s , N o . 14 , Cornhill, Londor., oppal. l3 ful Bal: of England. The best wrought FIDDLE PAT I The SILVER SPOONS and FORKS, at is. 2d. per 00 10 1;, alai followin g , are the weight s recommended, but the artic be hail lighter or heavier at the same price per ounce. . 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