The Sun. — London, England, 1849-06-26 00:00:00

AMERICAN NEWS The following are extracts from the New York weekly Herald, brought by the Niagara, which arrived at Liverpool yesterday morning : CHARLESTON, JUNE 11.—The Isabel arrived at this pert from Havannah this morning, having left there on the 7th inst. The Falcon had arrived at Havannab, and the Isthmus being in port, it was proposed to trans fer seine of the passengers of the former to the Isthmus. Thi3 was remonstrated against, and some of the passen gers having arms, they determined to use them in re sistance, if necessary. The matter was finally adjusted by the interference of the American Consul. In the markets there has been considerable activity, "'with large sales for Germany. White Sugars were quoted at 10 to 11 ; yellow, 6 to 7 ; brown, 51. to 5:-t, and uscovades, 4i to 6. The whole stock of Muscovado mo lasses had been purchased for England at four rials. In • daYed molesses there had also been considerable busi ness done for the same destination, at 21. rials, and from the coast at 2 rials. Rice, 9 to 9,4. Freights were dull. Exchange, 10 per cent on London, and on New York par to 1 per cent premium. • TERRIBLE STORM.—LOUISVILLE, JUNE 12, 6 P.M.— A severe storm occurred near the village of Metropolis, Illinois, on the Ohio river, on Friday last. Both chim neys of the steamboat Fey tons were blown overboard, and two or three coal boats in tow of the Belle of Nashville, and as many in tow of the Superb, were Stink: The steamer Memphis encountered a severe • ple near Medina, and the pilot's house and the roof of 'VIC cabin were blown off. The chimneys were also blown down. Three pilots with the carpenter were thrown - overboard and drowned, together with some thirteen others. The captain was blown from the hurricane deck to the forecastle, and seriously hurt. The books and papers; and almost everything else. were lost; also the greater portion of the cabin furniture. Those who re- Ruined in the cabin escaped uninjured. The boat was badly shattered, and one man almost torn to atoms. • DREADFUL STEAMBOAT EXPLOSION AND Loss OF LIFE.—LOUISVILLE, JUNE 12.—The steamboat Embassy 'collapsed both flues of her starboard boiler, below Green • River, on Saturday morning last, and a number of the ' crew and deck passengers were killed and blown over ' board by the violence of the concussion; twenty-eight 'others were severely scalded, some of them, it is feared, so seriously that they will not recover. • The killed and wounded were chiefly deck passengers, though some of the cabin passengers were also injured. "The number of killed has not yet been ascertained. •' 'The cook was blown overboard and drowned, and the • 'second engineer badly scalded. • The boat was much shattered, and shortly after the limentable disaster was towed to Evansville, Indiana. • The scene on board was of the most heartrending • • description. The Embassy was from Pittsburgh, bound ' to St. Louis. ' 'Louisa-nix, JUNE 12.—8 y the explosion on board • the Embassy, thirteen deaths occurred, and five are still inissing. The first engineer has since died, and near =" thirty persons were injured and scalded. BOSTON, JUNE 12.—J. G. Palfrey, free soil, has been defeated for Congress. There is no choice by thepeople. CINCINNATI, JUNE 12.—The Nashville papers of Sa ttirtis; say that ex-President Polk was still lying dan gerously ill. He is suffering from an attack of the diar ` ' rhota, and not of the cholera, as previously reported. ' BALTIMORE, JUNE 12.—The steam- frigate Mississippi • left her anchorage on Thursday, and made the run to Cape Henry, a distance of forty miles, in the space of • three hours and a hale. • The steamer Waterwitch, bound for the Gulf of Mexico, returned and anchored in Hampton Roads on • Saturday night, having five cases of cholera on board. The putients were sent to the naval hospital. The steamer Wave has been sunk near Guyandotte, Virginia, having on board 400 bbls. of salt, No lives were lost. It is thought that she will be raised. BALTIMORE, JUNE 12.—We have New Orleans papers to the sth ult. A iale of Government steamers took place the day before; at which the following were dis posen of:—The Alabama, for 23,000 dolls.; the New I , Orleans, for 31,000 dolls.; and the propeller Thompson, • for 23,000 dolls. The original cost of the two former • was 130,000 dolls. ST. LOUIS, JUNE 11.—The number of deaths by cho lera since Saturday reaches 70; from other diseases, 13. • 'The weather was quite sultry, and the Mississippi river very high. SECOND DISPATCH—ST. LOUIS, JUNE 11 , P.M.—The ' cholera continues to rage in our city. We have had seventy deaths by that disease during the last two days. .The weather is very hot. TRIM) DISPATCH—ST. LOUIS, JUNE 12, A.m.—Six teen cemeteries report 98 burials on Saturday, Sunday, f - and Monday; 61 of which were deaths by cholera. •CrNaNNATI, JUNE 12.—There have been eight deaths from cholera since yesterday. The weather is cloudy. 1 1 - - The produce markets are unchanged. ''rt BALTIMORE, JUNE 12. The Board of Health at Richmond report six new cases of cholera, and two deaths, for the forty-eight hours ending Monday evening. • PurLADELPara JUNE 12.—Two cases of cholera, an d ""''m=ane death, hav e been reported in our city to-day. ALBANY, JuNE.,1.2.--The Board of Health report one - Pi new and fatal ease of cholera. Two of the cases pre ' • viously reported have since proved fatal. PRIZE FIGHT AT ST. LOUIS, &c.—ST. LOUIS JUNE 11:-Two river b oa t men fb ng h t a pr i ze fight on S unday,' during which ono of the combatants lost an eye. Several • • hundred persons were present, and witnessed the brutal t.scene. Bill Crirtis, a noted character, was stabbed mortally n AUSTRIA. VIENNA, JUNE 9.—The Wiener Zeitung of this day contains the official appointment of Baron Von Haynau to the command in chief of the Imperial troops in Hungary, in the Grand Duchy of Transyl vania, - and consigns to him the government of those Crown lands which are now in a state of war and of siege. All the officials and public functionaries are en . joined to render implicit obedience and assistance. The document is signed by the Emperor, counter ' Signed by Prince Schwarzenberg. The Wiener Zeitung says, " That on the 16th the Magyar insurgents made a general attack on the Imperial army standing in the island of Schutte and the lower Waag, wbich was victoriously repelled at every point. The Imperialists took eight 12- pounders, 1,000 prisoners, and 60 horses. About 70 Hussars were left dead on the field. In this engagement a Uhland of the Kaiser regiment, who was pursuing an officer of Hussars, threw his lance with such force and precision at a distance of 12 feet at his fugitive enemy, that the officer was pierced through, and fell from his horse. The corps that was attacked was the brigade under the command of Field-Marshal von Riesbach. RUSSIA AND POLAND. ST. PETERSBURGII, JUNE 13.—The official journal of this day states that, in consequence of a command received from his Majesty, public prayers will be offered in all the churches of the metropolis on the 13th of June, on occasion of the speedy com mencement of the operations of the army. Letters from Kalisch, of the 10th, say that the cholera is raging fearfully in the Russian camp at that place, and that from 30 to 50 men die of it daily. ASSAULT or ARMS.—On Saturday an assault of arms took place at Willis's Rooms, under the patronage of Colonel John Hall and the officers of the Ist Regment of Life Guards. There was a large and highly respect able attendance of visitors present, who appeared to take a warm interest in the proceedings. The exhibition comprised swordsmanship, stick-play, sparring, and other amusements, and was commenced by Messrs. Arnold and Sherry taking the foils. They were followed by Messrs. Bushman, jun., and Jackson, Sergeant Tuohy and Mr. A. Sherry, Sergeant Collins and Me. Winterbottom, each pair of whom showed the moat surprising mastery of their weapons, and the due combination of elegance with dexterity. This part of the performance was suc ceeded by a sabre encounter between Mr. Bushman and Sergeant Tuohy, in which the latter, notwithstanding his marvellous rapidity and audacity of manner, was obliged to succumb to the calm and well-directed skill of the former. A still more interesting exhibition was the opposition of the bayonet to the sword, for the pur pose of testin g w hi c h i s th e most effective weapon. The musket, with spring bayonet attached, was wielded .by Sergeant Tuohy in the first instance, Mr. Bushman taking the sword. After a time the former, getting rather the worst of it, the different weapons were changed, and in the hands of Mr. Bushman the victory, which seemed at first to rest in favour of th e sword, was, eventually decided for the bayonet. Nothing could be more satisfactory than the proof which Saturday's ex hibition supplied, that in resolute hands the bayonet is one of the most effective of all our weapons of war. After this part of the performances had terminated, Mr. Bush man_ performed the feat of cutting through a large leg of mutton with one sweep of the sabre. He also severed a thin handkerchief, previously placed on his sword's edge, and handed round the large bar of lead which he had cut in two, two days previously before her Majesty in Holland Park. After some very clever stick play, young Keene, the well known pugilist, put on the gloves with Mr. Arnold, the beneficiare, and some sparring commenced, which excited a very lively interest, in none more so, judging by appearances, than in Sir R. Peel, who, with two of his sons, was present. DESTRUCTIVE FIRE. WANSTEAD, SATURDAY EVENlNG.—Between one and two o'clock this day a fire broke out in a hay stack on the premises of Mr. Richard Plaxton, known as Cann Hall Farm. Every assistance that could be obtained was speedily brought to bear, but all efforts proving ineffectual, a communication was made by electric telegraph to the London fire brigade, which immediately started for the scene of the confla gration. On the firemen reaching Mr. Plaxton's they found four large stacks of hay in one body of flame, and their principal exertions were' therefore directed to the safety of the house, granaries, and other surrounding buildings, upon which the engines were playing up to a late hour. The four ricks of hay were completely destroyed. The origin of the fire has not been as certained. FOREIGN HORsEs.—The importation of horses from the Continent appears now to have become a feature in the regular supplies from abroad. The following arrivals of horses have taken place lately in the metropolis from the continental states of Europe:—The Columbine, from Havre, has brought 7, consigned to one party ; the Tri ton, from Ostend, 14, similarly consigned ; th e Li on, from Harlingen, 6, consigned to order; the Trit on , f rom Ostend, 21., consigned to two separate parties ; the Tri dent, from liamburgh, 7, consigned to a west-end dealer; the Antwerpen, from Antwerp, 13, consigned to two eminent dealers in the metropolis, with numerous other importations of a similar nature, within these few days, from the same places. w 6.~} ; r- THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, JUNE 26, 1849. CONTINENTAL TRAFFIC NEWHAVEN.—We are glad to flnd the number of passengers increasing between the parts of Newhaven and Dieppe. The fast sailing steamboat Magician, now performs the passage regularly three times a week each way. On Friday, the 15th instant, she arrived with 49 passengers at this port, and on the following day sailed for Dieppe with 30. The arrival and departure is an object of attraction to the locality, and no doubt the Packet Wharf will be much fre quented as soon as the intended very important and desirable improvements are carried into effect, by widening the east pier and deepening the harbour. The voyage is accomplished in about five hours and a half ; and Newhaven is now the shortest, cheapest, and most direct route for London and Paris. The Brighton and South Coast Railway, and the General Steam Navigation Companies united, enable any one to have the option of return tickets (extending to 15 days) for either London or Paris. The large wharf at Newhaven adjoins the splendid building called the London and Paris Hotel, of which Mr. Bacon (of the New Steine Hotel, Brighton) is the landlord, and supplies on a moderate scale of charges. The hotel is tastefully and elegantly furnished, and every facility and convenience is given for embarking and disembarking at the quay where the steamer lies ; and, on the other side of the hotel, under cover, passengers may step from the railway carriages to the hotel, a portion of which is used for the Customs. The structure of the hotel com mands extensive sea and land views—of the ship ping, the Downs, and of the deep and noble bay of Seaford—and is contiguous to the mouth of the har bour. The hotel is of :great magnitude, the rooms being numerous, spacious, and lofty; and it is well adapted in every respect for a very extensive business for passing travellers and visitors, also for sea-bathing residents. The neighbourhood of Newhaven is diver sified by hill as well as valley, and the Downs, which appear to dip at this point, command the most extensive views of Brighton and Wor thing on the one hand, and Seaford hills, town and bay ; where during strong easterly winds, a considerable number of vessels anchor for shelter, and is a site much recommended by her Majesty's Harbour of Refuge Commissioners for a national breakwater, at an estimated cost of 1,250,0001., having great depth of water there at all tides, and lying midway between Dover and Ports mouth—and laeachy Head still farther east, on the other. Newhaven promises, from situation, to be come a great naval station as soon as the Govern ment funds can be provided for the proposed harbour of refuge. This port being nearer to London than Portsmouth or Dover, gives a superior advantage to Newhaven, and will increase the revenue (already considerable) obtained from the passage and goods' traffic on the Newhaven line. Every facility required by the officers of Cus toms, for examination and passing of luggage, have been fully supplied by the company. Passports are ob tained at the wharf, and nothing is omitted to make Newhaven pre-eminently (A. 1) the best port for French traffic. A new town is gradually springing up near the railway station, and the widening of the harbour will, most probably, lead some commercial enterprising men to a most desirable and no doubt profitable spe culation in the immediate locality—that which is al ready half formed by nature itself, particularly near Sleeper's Hole, and must strike every observer, viz.— the erection of Docks near the mouth of the Ouse, and Lewes would soon follow the example. Newhaven must eventually become what nature has so visibly intended--the best harbour on the southern coast.— Sussex Express. LAW INTELLIGENCE. COURT OF QUEEIV'S BENCH, June 25. THE QUEEN V. WALKER AND PAWLS, Mr. Cockburn, Mr. Bodkin, and Mr. Seymour ap peared for the prosecution; Mr. Ballantine conducted the defence of Walker, and Mr. Sergeant Wilkins that of Pawle. This was an indictment for a misdemeanour. The indictment contained two sets of counts; the first for obtaining certain bills of exchange under false pretences; and the second charging the two defendants with baying conspired together for the purpose of obtaining these bills. It appeared that the prosecutor, a person named Clements, had been a schoolmaster at Tarnham-green, but that in 1845 he took a house, or lodgings, in Lowndes . square, proposing, as he said, to retire from business, but he engaged in railway speculations, and became sometimes pressed for money. He held 615 shares or scrip certificates in railway companies, for which he had paid two guineas a share, and being in want of some ready money, ho applied to Walker to borrow for him a sum of 1501. ) on the security of these shares, 120 of which he proposed to deposit with Walker. That person, who had acted as the prosecutor's attorney for three years or more, said that he himself had not the money, but that he would obtain it from a friend, whose name, however, he declined to give to the prosecutor. Nothing was said about interest, as the prosecutor was so much in want of an immediate sum of ready money that he did not feel inclined to dispute upon that subject. Tixis -vrais in March, - 18445: In .a.pru, 1Z546; ane prOW tutor wanted some more money, and Walker undertook to get it from the same friend, but said that this friend would require, besides the deposit of shares, that certain bills should be accepted by the prosecutor. A bill for 3002, payable in two months, was therefore accepted by , the prosecutor, who got only 2821. 18s., a sum of 17/. 2s. being deducted for interest. This bill was not enforced when it became due ; but in November Walker applied for an additional sum, 78/., to be paid to this friend for interest, observing that if this was not done the friend would sue on the bill, and give up the shares for what he could get. The prosecutor refused this sum, but after wards gave a bill for 501., and paid it, but being after wards a party to an action brought by him as the owner of these railway shares against the directors of the company, he applied to Walker to get them produced in court, as part of the formal evidence in the cause, when Walker said that his friend refused to produce them except upon the further payment of a further sum of 100/. for interest. This sum the prose cutor refused to pay, notwithstanding the advice given to him by Pawle, who appeared to be Walker's clerk, that he had better pay it than be defeated in tbe. action. The refusal, however, did not seem to be conclusive, for the parties met the next morning, when Walker produced three bills which he had prepared for 50/., 40/, and 251, at different but not distant dates, which the prosecutor accepted, it being then arranged that Pawle should hold the bills as trustee for both parties, and that the bills should not be negotiated. Walker took prosecu tor's seal, and pretended that he had sealed up the bills in the presence of the friend who advanced the money. At this time the prosecutor had got another attorney, in the person of Mr. Lane. and as the prosecutor swore, Lane e as, by the defendant's desire, left uninformed of the transaction and was not present. The scrip certifi cates or shares were, in consequence of those bills being given, produced at the trial, and immediately after it the defendant Walker came to the prosecutor and asked to have them returned, but the prosecutor refused to return them unless his three acceptances were delivered up, or the name of the" friend" given him. They were not de livered up to him, notwithstanding a promise of Walker tisat they should be delivered up, and notwithstanding that the prosecutor allowed the defendant 12s. 6d. as for the stamps that had been spoiled, but the prosecutor had been obliged to pay the 50/, and the 401. bills ' and had been threatened with proceedings on th e 25/. bill, and had been actually sued upon the 3001. bill. The false hood of the pretence was established by the evidence of a person named Tinghy, who swore that about the time referred to as the time of the trial he had advanced 2401. to the defendant on the deposit of 240 shares of the railway company in question, without any stipulation whatever as to the payment f interest to him from the defendant, for the advance. He after- wards returned these shares to the company, and got for them nearly as much as he had advanced upon them. This was the obtaining under false pretences which formed the subject of the indictment. The defence relied on was the improbability of Cle ment's tale, and the fact that he was engaged in railway 1 speculations and had become embarrassed, so that no one was likely to advance money to him except upon getting every possible security for its repayment. Lord DENMAN left it to the jury to say whether it was possible to reconcile all the parts of Walker's con duct with the supposition of his innocence. As to Pawle, the case against him was undoubtedly weaker than that against Walker. In the first place, he was Walker's clerk, and there was no proof that he had not relied en tirely on his master's m tse representations. representations, or had Tnhoetr There given w a s his advise and e nt i r ely conducted himself in the full faith of the t log t e o t mon ey i warrant er the charge of conspi be certainly no evidenc e o the rors thought for a . client racy. As to the main that this was a mere mameuvir from a person who did not seem credit, both the defendants must be acquitted, but was nothing to show that any part of the money : o h e ob tained was applied to the account of any client, n or d i d it appear that Clements himself was a debtor to Walk er in respect of any other transaction. The jury, after a short consultation, acquitted Pawle on both charges, and acquitted Walker on the charge of conspiring with Pawle, but found Walker Guilty on the charge of obtaining the bills under false pretences. COURT OF EXCHEQUER, June 25. Sittings at Nisi Prius at Westminster, before the LORD CHIEF BARON and a Special Jury.) NOTTIDGE V. RIPLEY AND ANOTHER. The trial of this singular case was resumed today. After the examination of three witnesses, whose evidence was much of the same nature as that taken on Saturday, Sir FREDERICK THESIGER addressed the jury fur the defence. He was quite willing to admit that t'ais Was a very serious case, if it were true that the de fendants had been guilty of the base and mercenary motives which had been attributed to them. It was said that the design of the defendants, who stood in the intimate relationship of brother and brother-in-law, was to get possession of the property of this unfortunate lady (the plaintiff), for the benefit of themselves and their families, and in order to accomplish it that they had not scrupled to take her from the quiet and tranquil home which she had selected, and to expose her to all the restraints and horrors of a madhouse. Now, he would show that this was a very false and, at the least, a very exaggerated account of the real state of the case. Ile admitted that he had no right to interfere with the religious opinions of any person who was com petent to decide for himself, however absurd and extra vagant they might be. The Agapemone, or "Abode of Love," in which the plaintiff had taken up her abode, con tained among its inmates lour apostate clergymen, a civil engineer. a farmer, a solicitor, and two blood-hounds; and in it all pray. r was afittod ni. d, I .10%1 WuS WO. (1 the dunes emphatically enjoined upon us by our religion; and though he could noL but feel disgusted at that, and at the efforts of this sect to creep into families and spread misery and desolation wherever they went, yet, if the plaintiff was of sound judgment, he admitted that her opinions upon such subjects were no justification to put her under any restraint. But if she was not a free agent, and had been irresistibly drawn into a vortex of low and degrading associations, it was incumbent upon her family, not merely as a right, but as a high moral duty, to pluck her from her dangerous position. In 1844, the mother of the plaintiff was left a widow with seven daughters, two of them being married, an d fi ve un married. The family resided at Rose-hill, in the most perfect happiness; but unfortunately Mr. Prince, who was the curate of the neighbouring parish of Stuke, and who had either been dismissed from his office or had resigned it, exercised a most fatal influence upon the family. Af ter preac hi ng a b out t h e country in the open air, he went to Brighton, and in some way or other managed to communicate with the daughters. Three of them, it appeared, left for Brighton, where they took up their residence, and where they were in the habit of attending the ministry of Mr. Prince. They afterwards returned to a place called Charlincb, where they formed a notion that it was the will of God that they should be united to three of the members of the Agapemone, which had been established there. Their marriage took place accordingly, notwithstanding the remonstrances of the mother,each of the daughters having 6,0001. in the Bank of England in their own name; those sums immediately became the property of their respective husbands. It would have been thought that, having obtained so much of the property of the family, their exorbitant desires would have been sa tisfied, and that they would have spared the two re maining daughters. But in the month of December, 1845, a Mr. Starkie and a Mr. Turner came to Rose. hill to carry away another daughter. They suc ceeded in effecting their object, although Mrs. Nottidge endeavoured in every possible way to dissuade her from going with them. Mrs. Thomas, one of the daughters who had been previously married, however, left the Agapemone, and returned to her mother's roof, and in consequence of the information which she gave, the mother was induced to entertain apprehensions re specting her only other remaining daughter, who was then at Charlinch. Knowing that she was of unsound mind, and by no means a free agent, she desired the two defendants to go down to Charlinch and release her from the degrading position in which she was placed. They did so; and after getting possession of her person, they placed her in the Hanwell Lunatic Asylum, baying, in the first instance, obtained a medical certificate of her mental incapacity to act for herself. There could be no doubt about the state of her mind, for he should prove that when admitted she was in a state of great excitement, declaring that Mr. Prince was God Almighty—that ho was God mani fested in the flesh. They could easily imagine that such would be the effect up m a weak-minded person, of nervous and irritable temperament, when such tenets as Mr. Prince's were made known to her. In May, 1848, she was discharged by the Commissioners of Lunacy, on the ground that they thought she was capable of acting for herself. But it did not say much for her sanity, that immediately after being released, she went to the Bank and transferred over the whole of her money to Mr. Prince, and gave him the uncontrollable dominion of it. And it was strange that Mr. Prince, who was the moving spirit of all, had not been brought forward as a witness. If (said the Learned Counsel) daugh ter after daughter had been sacrificed to their mer cenary views, and not being satsified with the misery which they had produced, they had endeavoured to grasp the one remaining daughter; and if they (the jury) believed that daughter was of weak mind, easily excited and influenced when such awful thoughts as those already mentioned were continually addressed to her, he would ask them with perfect confidence, would they have allowed her to remain exposed to dangers both with respect to her present and eternal welfare, or would they not not rather, acting upon the motives which influenced the two defendants, have felt justifit in rescuing her from her degrading position? Oa the one high ground of morality alone would he rest in submitting this case to them, confidently trusting that the result would be a verdict for the defendants. The Learned Counsel made a powerful and eloquent speech, of which the above is only a resume, and at its conclusion a suppressed burst of applause came from the auditors in the court. The following witnesses were then called:— Mrs. Nottidge—l am the mother of the plaintiff, and lived at Rose-hill when my husband died, with my daughters, in 1844. My unmarried daughters were living with me in 1843. Mr. Prince came to preach at Stoke, and my daughters sometimes went to his church. I heard of his going to Brighton. Louisa (the plaintiff) and Agnes took a house at Brighton. That was before the death of their father. I sent for them from Brighton when he was dying, and when they came they said they should not have done so but for the " will of God." He died in May, 1844, and my daughters returned to Brighton in August. Clara stayed with me. I after wards went to Brighton and took up my abode with them, but I did not join them in their devotions, and I told them I would never receive Mr. Prince into my house. One of my daughters had married Mr. Ripley, and the other the Rev. Mr. Roberts, rector of Haverhill. I remember Mr. Prince coming to the house, but I would uftygmblE amp tn my 1 bedroom to prevent his intrusion upon me. I recollect my daughters going on a Monday to be present at the opening of the chapel at Charlinch. They were to return on' the Saturday. But only two came back, and my daughter, the plaintiff (Louisa), not until Sunday morning. I spoke to her on the impropriety of travelling on a Sunday. Louisa said Mr. Prince had written a prayer which said they must not travel on a Sunday, but then he made another, when he said it was the " will of God " they could travel on a Sunday, and she also told me with tears in her eyes, that the other three sisters were going to be married, as it was the " will of God " that they should then marry. She then told me that "Brother Thomas" was coming to sleep there that night. I said I would not consent to that, This " Brother Thomas" after wards married my daughter Agnes. The plaintiff said it was of no use my objecting to his coming, as it was the " will of God ' that he should, and in he would cotne, and accordingly in he came at ten o'clock at night. I said I should leave the house if this were done, for it was very improper. My daughter went up to him, and when they came down they told me, that it was the " will of God," and stop there he would. In consequence of this I went to a friend's house that night; and on the next day, when he had left, I returned. They then told me, that he should return at night, and that it was the " will of God," that another man (Turner) should also come with him. I objected, but they said it was the " will of God," and they must submit. I then wrote off to Mr. Ripley to come down. It was impossible for any man to lee more kind than he had been to all of us at all times. I afterwards heard that the marriages were to take place at Swansea, and I went down to prevent them, but it was of no use, for they said it was the " will of God" that they should be married. After this I went to Rose•hill, where the plaintiff and Cornelia were. That was in December, 1845. Mr. Starkie and Mr. Turner came to Rose-hill. From what was said to her the plaintiff said to me she must go, but that it was tearing the flesh from her bones to leave me, and that it was the " will of God" that she should go, and go she must. The men gave the plaintiff two hours to pack up, and at the expiration of that period they drove up in a carriage, and took her away. That was the last time I saw my daughter until she was brought back by the defendant. lam now seventy-six years of age. I went to Wey mouth to find my daughter and to bring her away. I had heard that she was living at Weymouth in the greatest sin and iniquity. I told Mr. Ripley of what I had heard from several friends, and from many letters. These reports I communicated to the defendants, and they went down to Charlinch in consequence. When I was at Weymouth I saw two of my other daughters, but they refused to give me any information as to where she was. I was six weeks making my search, and was not suc cessful. I offered a reward, but it was no use. I con sulted the two defendants and Mr. Pepys as to what could be done. I afterwards found a clue to where she was, and I then begged of the defendants to go and bring my daughter away as quickly as they could; and at once down they went, for I was in such a wretched state of mind about her. I saw them with my daughter on their return. She was brought at once to me, and I conversed with her. This was at Mr. Ripley's, in Woburn-place. She told me that if it were the " w ill of God" she should be at Charlinch on the Wednesday. This was on the Monday. I put down on paper what she said. It was when I spoke to the plaintiff about Mr. Prince that she said, I know no such person. God I now dwells only at Charlinch, in the flesh of him I once knew as Mr. Prince. God, who made all, and all the world, is now manifest in him whom I once called Mr. Prince. He has entered his tabernacle of flesh among men, and I have seen God face to face. He will deliver me wherever lam taken. After this I sent for my bro ther, who saw Louisa, and by his advioe the medical men were sent for. efoc ! ,:n h uc e ish L si o ao n na n teo C pf. ra l r nac ß y e . no w — hy xW l h oe y k di h d er yo n u p n fo o r t h fi a ffe ve en a months? Yo u should have had the sanction of the law keep ing the matter as Cross - examined clu l t h i a s d larn.o _ said it was done with the view of Mr. e ttoi ,, Diaa son b rou g h t possible.otiit comm unication her back . with my i should fetched umek .e h r e d r e. away lf until Mr. R fr f o p m fey th a e nd ti m m y e conversation my daughter saiScitashrkeAt this she would have retired with me to Rose-hill e , v i of a keeper or otherwise, I would have tall'etrahhecrare to Rose hill, but my daughter said that she should where it was " God's will." My intention in getting her go up to town was to keep her under my roof with a keeper, if necessary. I did not wish to have a keeper, if she would remain under my roof and control without; and then if she still insisted upon returning to Char linch, I meant to put her in a lunatic asylum. I visited my daughter twice in the lunatic asylum b3fore I left town for Rose-hill. I also saw her there a few months afterwards, but then my daughter said she had not 'any mother. I never heard either of my daughters say that I had said that it was my intention she should live and die in the lunatic asylum. I had never said any such thing, Mrs. Cobb asked me to allow the phiintiff to be released from the asylum, and also said that she wanted to see me; but I said I would not see her, as she said she had no mother. It was part of my directions that my daughter should not be allowed to communicate with any person but with my family and my friends. I ex cluded the daughters at the Agapemone, of course, from all communication with her. Reexamined—l acted under the firm belief that my daughter's mind was affected when I gave the direction to the defendants. Mr. John Pepys, the brother of Mrs. Nottidge, said— I am living at Lower Berkeley street, flrosvernor-gqogro. member Me. Itipt,y and to) it. ph- goi,,g ti,,wit tootcten up the plaintiff. at the desire of the mother. I saw her the morning after her arrival. In my opinion her mind was under a strange delusion. The only answer I could get from her was, "The Lord's wilt" that she should live down at Charlinch, and that was tha only reply I could obtain from her. I gave directions that a medical man should be nen:, for, and that she should not be left alone, as I thought she might do herself some injury. Cross-examined—l was the first to recommend that a medical man should be called in. Thomas Morton—l am a fellow of the College of Surgeons, and was called to see the plaintiff. I exa mined her, and found that she had left her home to fol low a person of the name of Prince, whom she believed to be Almighty God. She declined at first to reply to any of my questions. She said I had no right to ask any questions whatever. Afterwards she replied as to the state of her health. I have bad considerable expe rience in cases of insanity, and had no doubt of the pro priety of signing a certificate stating her unsoundness of mind. Dr. Rowland and Dr. Stillwell confirmed the foregoing evidence of the unsound state of mind of the plaintiff, which was also confirmed by Dr. T urner , a gent l eman of forty years' experience in these cases: The usual hour having arrived for th e r i s i ng o f t h e Court, the case was adjourned until to-morrow (this day). POLICE INTELLIGENCE. W ORSHIP-STREE T. A respectably-dressed elderly person, who refused to give either name or address, was placed before Mr. Ar nold, charged with repeated acts of gross misconduct, upon Hackney Downs, towards several l a di es an d t h e i r servants residing in that neighbourhood. Inspector Coward, of the N division, stated that for some weeks past numerous complaints had bee n l o d ge d at the police-stations, respecting the disgusti ng con d uct of a man who was in the habit of lurking about the Downs at the hours when they were most frequented by unprotected ladies, with their nursemaids and children, for the purpose of air and exercise, and subjecting them to insults of the most offensive and indelicate description. TNo or three constables in plain clothes were accord ingly directed to keep a vigilant watch for the detection of the offender, but all their efforts were unsuccessful until that morning, when Devitt, 310 N, who was se creted behind a hedge, observed the prisoner advance from a clump of trees, and, walking directly up to a young woman who was in attendance upon some chil dren, deliberately expose himself. The young woman instantly withdrew with the children, and the prisoner then proceeded in the direction of some ladies, who screamed and fled•upon being subjected to similar infa mous conduct, and the officer made his way to the pri soner, who immediately took to his heels, but after a sharp pursuit was overtaken and secured. Three young women, servants of families in the neighbourhood, entirely confirmed the preceding state ment, one of whom stated that she had been molested in the manner complained of on various occasions during the last three weeks; and another, who had been insulted in the same way on the previous Saturday, stated that the prisoner was in the habit of carrying a telescope, to enable him to discern the approach of any person who would be likely to afford them protection trona his scan dalous conduct. The constable Devitt produced a small brass te'escope which he had found upon the prisoner on searching him, and seen him apply it to his eye immediately before he committed the outrage referred to by the last witness. When called upon for his defen,,e, the prisoner, who was very much agitated, said that he would not attempt to deny the evidence in support of the last transaction, for which he felt thoroughly ashamed of himself, and entreat* d ►he magistrate to take a lenient view of his misconduct, in consideration of his wife and family, who would be bill eted on hearing of his disgraceful posiiion. Mr. ARNOLD said that he felt it his duty tu a case of such a❑ infamous description, to carry out the law to its utmost extent, and he should therefore commit the pri soner to hard labour, as a rogue and vagabond, for three months in the House of Correction. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, June 25. Their Lordships met at Five o'clock. - PE mioNs. Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from Man chester, complaining of the state of the law respecting judicial oaths, and in doing so expressed his beliet that evidence in courts of law should always be taken upon oath. Lord CAMPBELL thought there might be persons who would be more bound by an oath than by affirma tion. The Duke of CLEVELAND presented a petition complaining of the increase that had recently taken place in the number of beer-houses, and praying the House to take steps to limit them in future. Lord MONTEAGLE presented a petition to the contrary effect, and praying that beer-houses, might be recognised by law. Lord STANLEY presented two petitions against the admission of Jews into Parliament; also a petition from the Lancaster and Carlisle Railway Company, praying for the re-committal of a certain Railway Bill. He thought it would be desirable to refer the petition to the Board of Trade to determine whether that Bill should be re committed or not. The Mari or garitA.ll - V - 1.1.11E wished to guard himself against giving any opinion on the petition, but there were matters patent upon the face of the Bill which [ showed that it ought not to pass without scrutiny. As to the suggestion of a reference to the Board of Trade, if such course were adopted the Board of Trade would devote its earnest attention to the subject and report as soon as possible. Lord BROUGHAM understood that generally it was an excellent Bill, but that justice required some alteration in its provisions. Lord PORTMAN recommended that the petition should be referred to the Committee, with power to refer to the Board of Trade. After a few words from the Marquis of ORMONDE, Lord MONTE AGLE expessed a doubt as to whether the reference to the Board of Trade could take place consistently with a due regard to the privileges of the House. Lord STANLEY would then move that the Bill be re-committed, with power to the Committee to ask for the assistance of the Board of Trade. After a fere words from the Marquis of ORMONDE, Lord PORTMAN referred to the standing order giving power to the Chairman of the Committee to re port that an unopposed Bill should be proceeded with as an opposed Bill. s e il l l t t o o the ear sam e hi m. He The Duke of RICHMOND t h ought it was always thanto referring to the ref B b w e a t s ter op to hear pused Lord REDESDALE said th e Bill was an opposed Com mittee. Bill. He thought that the House would do right to refuse to receive this petition, as being contrary to pre cedent. After a few words from Lord BYRON, the motion was agreed to. RELATIONS WITH SPAIN. The Earl of ABERDEEN rose to draw the attention of the House to the state of our relations with the Spanish Government. If it had nut been for the many great events which had taken place in Europe, the state of our relations with Spain would no doubt long since have attracted the attention of their Lord ships. It was now more than twelve months since our relations with the Court of Madrid had been interrupted, and our ambassador had been dismissed with contumely. It was clear that a Government had a right to dismiss an ambassador. The Regent Orleans had not only dismissed the Spanish Ambassador to the Court of France, had not only sent him his passports, but had caused him to be arrested and sent as a prisoner to the frontier, and had afterwards justified his conduct in the face of Europe. The Spanish Govern_ ment had not gone E 0 far, they had merely sent our Ambassador his passports. He did not mean to say that the Spanish Government was justified in so doing. He did not believe they were ; but up to that time no explanation or reparation had been made. That ap peared incredible. —(Hear, hear.) They may h ave thought that our ambassador was the friend of anarchy and revolution, but it was their duty to adduce proofs in justification of their belief. However, it was not his intention to examine into the causes of the persuasion of the Spanish Government that our Ambassador was ex ceedingly hostile to them, and the eider and abettor of anarchy and revolution. It was evident that Government feared this country and its representative, and acted under a very strong impression of the sort to which he had alluded. But that was no justification of the act to which he now drew attention. The question now rested between the two Governments. The gentleman who was our Ambassador at the time had amply justified himself, and received new honours and a more important appoint ment. The question, he now repeated, rested with the Government. What he had witnessed lately of the con duct of the Spanish Government made him exceedingly anxious upon the subject of our relations with that country. The Spanish Government had turned out more stable than was anticipated, and had now so little to dread from internal disturbances, that they could spare eight or ten thousand troops for service in Italy. Our relations with that Government were important, and our misunderstanding with it had delayed the settlement of a treaty for the introduction of our manufactured and cotton goods, which had been our object for thirty years. If the present Government in Spain remained in o ffi ce he looked for a satisfactory ar rangement of our differences with them, but that de pended greatly upon ourselves. He trusted that due caution would be mixed with an earnest endeavour to arrange the unhappy differences existing between the two countries, and that another effort would be made to open up a new market for our trade. He would now ask whether there was any prospect of a speedy renewal of our diplomatic relations with Spain? The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that he did not intend to go into any discussion respecting the recent exclusion of her Majesty's representative fr om Spain. That had already been done, and after full consideration there could be but one opinion upon the subjt , ct, that a justification and explanation was due from the Spanish Government, but up to that moment nothing had been done that was satisfactory. He regretted much that that was so, but they were always ready to accept a reparation, and with that object an offer of mediatiou on the part o the Kin.. ' of the B..lgians to mediate, b a d not been declined. That monarch, who was so well fitted for the office, had not received on the part of Spain any offer of reparation which he thought himself justified in recommending to the consideration of the Bri tish Government.—(Flear, hear.) The personal honour of our distinguished representative was bound up with the public honour, and if even through him any communication was made, he could only say that it would receive their immediate attention. All offers made hitherto on this subject were not concessions I to our juct an honrsnr9bl , . n.**.tne•Pment 1 .1,1,11411 , 1 bt.'llo - 1 oui , t hill le itae avt.utts t ri.e z.r...1 that they would noz, a.ink it inc,n sisma with their own honour to hear and receive the justification of Sir Henry Bulwer from the asper sions so unjustly cast upon his character.—(Hear, hear.) Before he sat down he might take that oppor. tunity of mentioning, in regard to a question put to him on a previous evening, respecting the communications that had taken place between the French Government and this country, in regard to the expedition sent to Rome, that he was now able to lay upon the table of the House all the communications between the two countries in reference to the affairs of Italy. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE presented a petition from the Lord Mayor and Common Council of the City of London in favoor of the Alteration of Oaths Bill. The Noble Marquis also laid upon the table of the House two returns from the Palace Court, ordered by their Lordships. PACKET COMMUNICATION BETWEEN SCOT- LAND AND IRELAND. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY moved that.a Se lect Committee be appointed to inquire into the expe diency of removing the Packet Station and communica tion between the South-west of Scotla:.d and the North of Ireland, and to ascertain the public grounds upon which the harbours of Port Patrick and Donaghadee are to be abandoned, and those harbour; which cost the country 400,0001., for the sake of a trifling saving, to substitute a long sea voyage of 90 miles from Greenock to Belfast, which is now the object of her Ma. jesty's Government; and to report thereon to the House. The question resolved itself into first, the expediency and advantage of a short passage; 2dly, the wisdom and prudence of abandoning it; and lastly, the saving to be thereby effected. On the first two points it was well known that all previous Governments had been agreed, and that at very great expense they bad kept up this passage. lie believed that the Chancellor of the Ex chequer himself at this moment was of opinion that it was the safest and most convenient, and that if he could follow his own convictions it would not be interfered with or abandoned. For his own part, he did not exactly understand with what department of the Go vernment the change originated. The postal com munications of these ports was formerly under the control of the Admiralty; he supposed it was now under the Noble Marquis the Postmaster-General. He was certainly very much surprised when he heard of the in tention to break up this packet station, and had felt it to be his duty to accompany a numerous and respectable deputation to Lord J. Russell, in order to lay the facts of the case before him, and, if possible, to induce the Go• vernment to reconsider their decision. The able speeches made on that occasion by gentlemen fully conversant with the question, and the documents they had adduced, to all of which publicity had been given by the press, rendered it unnecessary for him to detain their Lord ships by any lengthened statement. The answer of Lord J. Russell was in effect that he could not give any deci sive reply. He supposed the Noble Lord wanted time to confer with his colleagues. He had since received the following letter from the Noble Lord:— " " My Lord,—Upon c C o h n e s s i h d a e r m a . t p i o n lace , of J t h u e n e m 2 e 2 m , 0 1 6 8: 1 9. r e specting the mail communication from Portpatrick to Donaghadee, the Government have come to the decision to abandon the postal route between those two places. The harbours will be attended to by the Admiralty, but it is not thought advisable to continue the expense of the packets when the service can be more cheaply pro vided for. "I have the honour, &c., ndPa tirwnlgi pay mentthuo " J. RUSSELL." Now he thought he had a right to ask in what way the Admiralty were to keep up the harbours, and what ad. ditional expense would arise from continuing the packets. The Queen's subjects could not make the passage in open boats, and after having, by a considerable expendi ture within the last two or three years, rendered the harbour fit for steam-vessels, he asked why it should now be abandoned, when the present voyage of three hours could be reduced to one hour and a quarter? The very small sum at which the mails could now be carried con stituted certainly a sufficient reason for a Parliamentary inquiry into the subject, especially after they bad ex. pended nearly half a million on the harbour. He believed that if the Government carried out its intentions in the course of a year or two they would find out the impolicy of carrying the mails 90 miles by sea from Greenock to Belfast, instead of the short passage between these two ports; and unless, in the meantime, they were attended to, they would be found choked up, and requiring another outlay to bring these into. the efficient state in which they now were. He did not think that for miserable saving of some thren or four thousand pounds a year the inhabitants of that, part of the country—nay, of the country at large—eshanlel be deprived of the benefit of the existing postal' , jeriengements, and he added, that the Noble Marcirry . AClanricarde), as an Irish man, should not be a party to such a paltry saving, to anything that would impoverish a district which, in ad dition to its former burdens, was now subject to a rate in aid. In fact, such was the effect of the announcement that the Government intended to abandon the mails, that in one instance three houses, valued at 4501., had been already put up at auction, and only 55/. offered for them, the owner wishing to 'grb' to America. He regretted that such a policy should be pursued, and still more that the Government did not advise her Majesty to visit Ireland. He was certain that the moment she set her foot on the Emerald Isle she would ho rwtoi...-1 with _.tuth w trtry .4' joy that she would forget, at least for the time, any other part of her dominions. His fellow -countrymen were more sinned against than sinning —and it would be the happiest day they had ever seen if her Majesty's ad visers, overlooking all the pretexts on which a royal visit had been from time to time delayed, would counsel her to go among her Irish subjects. This might be a di gression, but, returning to the motion for a Select Corn • mittee, he thought he hid made out a sufficient case for inquiry, and in conclusion he begged to move the motion of which he had given totice. Lord CAWDOR approved of the motion, and merely rose to move an addition to the inquiry proposed by the Noble Marquis. Last sear, suddenly and without any reason being assigned for the change, the mail commu nication between Waterford and Milford Haven, a court munication which bad continued for fifty years, and which was of great rublic utility, had been cut off. Great dissetisfaction and inconvenience had been caused, and he therefore wished to add words to the motion which would bring this case also before the Select Com mittee. The Earl of HADDINGTON said that when he was in office the principle acted upon in deciding between a long land passage and a short sea passage, and short land passage and long sea passage, was to give the pre ference to the former.. It was so long since his atten tion had been directed to the subj, ct, that he did not rememeer the facts, letr. he thought that the Noble Mar quis had made out a sufficient case for an inquiry, and he would add that he had never heard of any ships being lost. The Marquis of OIANRICARDE said that in not agreeing with the motion of his Noble Friend (the Mar quis of Londonderry), cr to the amendment of the Noble Brat.' opposite (the Earlof Cawdor), he had no desire to withhold from their, Lordships any information con nected with the proposed change of packet station, but the subject was one wtich in no degree, he contended, ought to be submitted to a Committee of Inquiry. There were no theories ia antagonism, nor was there any new system to be adopted. The question was one which could be at once decided on. He assured their Lordships that the mange of packet had not been ado , / ted on insufficient views of economy or ill judged parsimony, bit after mature deliberation, and with an anxious desire to proulete the best interest of the public service. There were circumstances which, in the case of steam-packet communication, bound the Governmett to look not only to the cost and expenditure, but to the general benefit of the country, but in the case of the Portpatrick and DJnaghadee steam-packet stations, they were in no way bound to regard the personal opinion of interested parties. He quite agreed, that as a general principle, the shortest sea passage that could be obtained was the most desirable; but the rule was liable to modification, and there was another principle which could not be over looked, namely, the observauce of the routes which public opinion and public experience pointed out as the best to be adopted. The Noble Marquis then proceeded to the of experienced sub jectwDFlacorolerNnl show that the effect of the change of postal communi cation, as proposed by the Government, would be most beneficial for the correspondence, and that the time oc cupied in the transit from Glasgow and Paisley to Bel fast, would be not on!) lessened four hours, but that the letters would reach sufficiently early for the first deli very. If Portpatrick were continued, an increase of ex penditure would be required to keep up the proper means of inter-communication, and that was a proceeding he did not feel justified in recommending for the convenience of a small portion of the country.—(Hear, hear.) Sir John Rennie's opinion with regard to Portpatrick Har bouroa t n f hv d e u a th i ß l ) s e ou foß ffi r r oc uf ltahr ew circumstancewa was r l ikkse there; likely to o b e at nu ra l osirthecaeovrri certainly ns been e biassed wnat she ebiyvilt contradictedh the engineer parbtiy oyagpcmsroeastrrneoset,topphflrceiappointedekeovdueEee,l t h e inquire evidence into o the Post-office traffic, there was no necessity for the continuance of those harbours, and it was absurd to suppose of the rate in aid. uett the e e b orn w i foei north LONDONDERRY hod observationsrNo withdrawal GALLOWAY, inju riouslyTA h fAfter r l4 affect that saor mq drawing his motion for the Committee, in consequence of the scanty attendance of Peers, but expressing his in tention to bring forward the subject again on a future day, by moving a n address to her Majesty for copies of certain correspondence which had passed between the Post -office authorities and the parties who contracted for carrying the mails. THE INCUMBERED ESTATES BILL. Lord CAMPBELL moved the order of the day for going into Committee on this Bill, and stated, that on bringing up the report, he would move a proviso to one of the clauses. limiting the power of the Com • mistioners to certain classes of applications by incum brancers. The Bill then passed through Committee, and was or dered to be reported. The County Cess (Ireland) Bill was mad a third time, and passed. Tile House then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, June 25. The SPEAKER took the Chair at a few minutes before Four o'clock. CONSIDERATION OF LORDS' AMENDMENTS. The Lairds' amendments to the following Bills were considered and agreed to:— Letds and Thirsk Railway (Power to guarantee Inte rest on certain Shares, &c.) Whittlesey St. Mary and Whittlesey St. Andrew Union of Parishes, and for Improving the Town of Whittlesey. TrITPD RFAPTWIS. rated J ys ! ft): C,17:- men Otliceri). Taff Vale Railway (Extension in Merthyr Tydsl). Tyne River Conservancy. Estate. CONSIDERATION OF REPORTS. The following Rilirts were considered and agreed to: Airdrie Police and Municipal Bill. Flimwi-11 Vent to Hastings Turnpike Road Bill. PETITIONS. _ The Sheriffs of London and Middlesex appeared at the bar and presented a petition from the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Corporation of the City of London in favour of the Binkruptcy Bill ; also a petition against the Marriage Bill. Mr. LAW presented a petition from the Irish Society against the Leisehold Tenure of Lands (Ireland) Bill, and praying to be heard by counsel at the bar of the House. Mr. DEEDES presented petitions from Bromley and other places against trading in seduction and prosti tution. Mr. W. BROWN presented a petition from Manches ter in favour of the Bankruptcy Bill. Mr. HALE presented a petition from "Gloucester against the Attorney's certificate duty. Mr. ALEXAN DER HASTIE presented a petition from Glasgow against the Marriage Bill. Mr. CARDWELL presented a petition from Liver pool, suggesting a clause to be inserted into the Bank ruptcy Bid, with respect to the arrest of debtors. Mr. H. BROWN presented a petition from Stirling in favour of the Health of Towns (Scotland) Bill. COLLIERY EXPLOSION A r ST. HELEN'S. Mr. WYLD begged to ask the Secretary of State if he had received any official intelligence respecting the explosion of a coal mine at St. Helen's, which happened a day or two ago? Sir GEORGE GREY said ho had not received any intelligence, official or otherwise, of any accident of that kind at St. Helen's, though ho had beard of the cir cumstance. Mr. WYLD then asked (as we understood) if the Right Hon. Baronet would have any objection to lay on the table of the House the official correspondence re specting the explosion at Hebburn. Sir GEORGE GREY said he would shortly lvy the papers o❑ the table of the House. PETITION OF MR. HERCULES HARRIS. Mr. ANSTEY presented a petition from Mr. Hercules Harris, a member of the Irish bar, who stated he was counsel for the plaintiff iii a late action of replevin. The action had reference to the recovery of a poor-rate; and the petitioner complained that, having prepared a plea questioning the legality of the rate for which the distress was levied, the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in Dublin refused to allow the plea to be argued. INCUMBERED ESTATES (IREL AND) BILL. Mr. OSBORNE asked the Noble Lord at the head of the Government if he had any objection to state to the [louse who were the three Commissioners whom he pro posed to appoint under the Incumbered Estates (Ireland) Bill? Lord JOHN RUSSELL hoped to be able to do so before the session closed. THE IRISH CHURCH. Mr. ROCHE wished to ask the Hen. Member for Montrose a quesion relative to two motions on the paper for the 10th of July. Hie Hon. Friend, the Member for Middlesex, had a motio❑ on the ',slier refer ring to the Irish Church; and his Hon. Frieno, the Mem - bcr for Montrose, had a motion o❑ the paper before that relating to British Guiana. Now the question he wished to ask the Hon. Member was, whether he would give way in favour of the motion for an inquiry into the state of the Irish Church. Mr. HUME said ne man was wore anxious that the question of the lri-h Church should be speedily disposed of than he was, but it must be remembered that the Government of British Guiana was at a stand-still, and he therefore could not give way, unless Government would give him a day for his own motion. Mr. REYNOLDS suggested that the Hon. Member could bring his motion on to-morrow. Mr. HUME could not do that; but he would discharge his notice,, and bring the motion forward on going jute Supply. Lord JOHN RUSSELL saiel it must not be sup posed that he was a party to this arrangement. The SPEAKER remarked that it would be irregular to discharge the notice then. The subject then dropped. TRANSPORTATION (IRELAND) BILL. On the ino Lion for the thi.t d readin g of this Bill, Mr. NAPIER said he should not take up the time of the House with any lengthened observations at this stage of the Bill, but he was bound to protest against this ex post facto mode of legislattug in cases of con victed criminals. It was decidedly unconstitutional. He thought the measure most uncalled for and unconsti tutional, and he should therefore oppose the third reading. Colonel RAWDON also opposed the third reading of the Bill, and trusted that the House would never sanction a measure containing such provisions. Mr. SPOONER said it was his intention to vote against the Bill. The question involved in it was a great constitutional one, and it was to his mind au infraction of the constitution to bring in any Bill to enact an ex post facto law, and which, besides, would have the effect of aggravating leegettei or mitigating use prinlAhalent or the - persons at whom it was aimed. He complained that no necessity had been shown for such a measure. It was true doubts had arisen in the highest legal quarters with respect to the right of the Crown to transport these parties; but where doubts existed in such grave cases it was customary to give the accused the benefit of them.—([Dear, hear.) The Attorney-General, he believed, had tailed to show sufficient cause why the House should pass this measure. Sir GEORGE GREY said, that as far as he could see both the Honourable Gentleman who had just spoken had arrived at the conclusion that the case was so clear that there was no need of discussion about it. The Honourable Gentleman had said that this Bill had come before the House sanctioned by the opinions of the high judicial authorities of the land, but he assured the House that no hesitation had existed in the minds of these authorities; but as there were said to be doubts existing on the subject, they had ad vised that such a 1311 should be introduced. He must remind the House again that the position in which these parties stood was that of men whose lives were forfeited to the laws of the country. It is only at this moment by the mercy of the Crown that they are at pie sent able to petition. He must say that it was quite a mistake to bay that this Bill was intended as au aggravation of punishment. Mr. FEARGUS O'CONNOR said he quite agreed with the regret which had been expressed by an Hon. Gentleman that so much extraneous matter had been introduced into this debate. He had refrained from mingling in this debate as he did from all Irish debates. He thought it would be better if this matter were confined entirely to the Gentleman who had managed the measure. SHARMAN CRAWFORD wished to separate the matter from Ireland and Irish Members, and to argue it on constitutional grounds.—(Hear, hear.) The tact was that the House had untertaken to interpose between the prisoners and the courts of law. Ile would appeal to those Members who were in the habit of sup porting the rights of the Crown. He would appeal to the Hon. Member for Sheffield; and this appeal he might safely make, as although he was largely interested iu Ireland, he represented u large constituency which was purely British, and he trusted that it would be re spudded to rightly.—(Loud cries of "Divide, divide.") Mr. REYNOLDS said, that as this was the last time when he should have an opportunity of speaking upon this question, as this was the last means that could be adopted before this measure passed into law, as this was the last act of the drama, he was, he confessed, surprised at the endeavours which were madu to prevent one Iri,h Member from speaking. He was anxious to say that in voting against this Bill they were not voting against an act of mercy. The contrary was the case. So long as the prisoners were to be confined within the realm less ground of complaint would remain, but such was not likely to be the case. Did tho Chancellor of the Exchequer ever attempt to put the expenses of this prosecution on the debit side of the account he would be a little more careful of in curring any further. He had no hesitation in saying that the attempt of the Government to put down five men had not cost less than a million of the public money.—(tlear, hear.) Why, had they not been obliged to keep upwards of 30,000 troops in the country? That body of men had cost upwards of half a million, and it was proved that the army had cost more than it did two years before. Taking those with the cost of the constabulary, and the other necessary ex penses, it would appear that he had not been guilty of any great exaggeration in making this statement. Having stated this much on this the last op portunity of opp os i ng t h e Bill, he should oiler no further opposition to it, and content himself with simply recoed ing his vote. The House then divider', when there appeared— For the amendment 27 Against it ... 159 Majority _132 Mr. ANSTEY moved as an amendment, at line 15, of page 1, to omit the word " transportation," and insert " imprisonment during the Queen's pleasure, or banish ment." There could be no doubt that transportation was a worse punishment than death itself. He would not inquire how far confinement during the Queen's pleasure fell short of that; a few years or a few months might determine it, but by the large construction of the words it might extend to the natural lire of those unfortunate gentlemen. The Bishop of Tasmania stated in hi s r e p ort , f or w hi ch h e received the thanksn of Earl Grey, th at a l t h oug h the system of pun i s h ment now followed in Van Diemen's Land was superior a to no a m ny ina tti o a i had preceded it, yet it had given rise to rnoi.s _ s. e practices, and that nothing but a commission b:1'" inquiry from England, with full in vestigation would ever bring said, theeePfraiwroet,lY to light. The Honourable Gentleman prisoners' barracks at lio- P ri l s e ° ,, st possible way of ing crimes that ever stained the character of Man hart te 'Town perpetrated without n t h n e o :gynas tnaedimr.iwtSalstiCtilhni deOoh'fßeurinimeini q ty it was not • and preventing them." ft p o, o c s tm s h i tti b tty l no f tf o: pmu t n hi ss il ho tiinuefiseilte:ntnisois;tin)tuthrog.i s hT c r c l3 ) n) n f i e s e l excep ta l t i( e ri fii a r n the beeretar of S from th© Right nonGentletmhbeayrehdiusn:a,,ritns; the system in whir h d wki r 'e r. r e tei n l t su to tti s F u e b t ;titu n t e e on their arrival, cessarily ftahveolluromoef a D n ' y ija o r n tm e e c n o t ntet Pleasure for (Mr. Anstey) proposed imprisonment during Q all. trans portation for life. He hoptd the lion. Baronet (Sir Molesworth) did not Consider that there was a differ ence between Irish, English, an,l American rebels —nay more, that the latter should be rewarded. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL opposed the motion. These poops having been eonviowd of high treason, and /7,1,,, ro`.7 tit i:ower ro.:t to do so, C:e tieverfiretnt wioned to the C-overnment to adopt, two eourFes tvith respect to persons who had thus been committed of high treason, namely, either to hang cr to imprison them. Now the argument was so absurd that he was sure it would not avail with that House. The Government merely wizlit.d to assimilate the Irish to the English law in this respect; and he trusted the House would do noshing to restrict the pre reg4tive of mercy. Mc. LAWLESS inquired what might be done by the Gov; rement after these parties had been transported ? The ATTORNEY GENERAL replied that it would be most improper to answer the question.—( Hear.) After some observations from Dr. POWER and Mr. DICKSON, strangers were ordered to withdraw, and the House divided, when there appeared— For the amendment 2l Against it Aljority against it The amendment was accordingly lost. Oa the question that the Bill do now pass having bee put, _ Mr. LAWLESS said that although he opposed the Bill, no mere loyal, man existed than himself, and now that the measure was carried. he once more felt it to be his duty to implore her Majesty's Ministers to show mercy towards the prisoners. Lord J. RUSSELL said although there had been much said in the course of this debate that might natu rally have led to the expression of strong opinions of the offence of which those persons had been found guilty—that of high treason—yet he th , nght that the House generally would agree with him that her Majesty's Ministers had carefully abstain( d from s tying anything to characterise the offence. Ile must say that they had so refrained in spite of the temptations, or rather the prevoca ion offered to them in the speeches of some [lon. Members, which raised the opinion that the cha racter of the offence was inconsistent with the charge of the judge and the verdict of the jury. He had only to say that he believed the advice which had been given to her Majesty was that of mercy—(hear, hear)—and that in awarding punishment, the feeling of Government was not a vindictive one; but a feeling that, it the punishment were lighter than the off2nce merited, they would be chargeable with not taking proper precautions for the peace of Ireland. However painful it might be to them to inflict a severe sentence, they bad no alterna tive but to award such a punishment as would afford s warning against the repetition of an offence which would endanger the tranquillity and security of Ireland. The Bill, after a few words from Mr. ANSTEY, wag then passed. - POOR RELIEF (IRELAND) BILL. The House then went into Committee on the Poor Relief (Ireland) Bill; Mr. Bernal in the chair. Yr. STAFFORD rose and said that they were at a loss to know at what stage they should commence this Bill, owing to the absurd course pursued by the Hon. Member (Mr. John O'Connell) in moving the excluaion of strangers. With respect to the maximum rate pro poied by the Bill, he was opposed to it, seeing that it had failed in this country. He found that the debt of all the unions in Ireland amounted to somewhere about 6,500,000/., and that the money was chit fly owing by the most distressed unions, and by this maximum rate they show to the unions they should not have the support of their own poor. For these rtast- , ns he must take the sense of the Committee against this clause. Mr. J. O'CONNELL said the Hon. Gentleman had an opportunity of inflictinff upon the Hou se a sec ond time an addition a l p roo f of his self-sufficiency, prosiness, and emptiness. He looked upon the maximum rate as being too high. Sir JOHN YOUNG supported the proposition of the Government. g,, suegt stud that, in addition to the al" vantages to be aff .rded to the poor in Ireland, mid. r this Bill, they should also increase the facilities of the work' houses in Leland. Ile considered indoor relief the best and nee, scary mode of alleviating the distress. The distribution of food out of doors preserved lite; but, OS they were without clothing, they were exposed to at' tacks of disease which was fatal in their state of desil' tution. Mr. CLEMENTS said he did not think the maximum rate of seven shi lines before aid was extended was not sufficient guarantee, because all that was required W 96 ' that due diligence should be used in the collection of die maximum rate of seven shillings in the pound. Vie electoral division was, under this Bill, bound to contra' bute two shillings in the pound upon the net annual value, beyond the five shillings for local necessities . 'ibis would have the effect of preventing capitalists iron investing money in the cultivation of the land. In fac t ' this Bill, which provides for extraneous aid. had pre" vented a party from purchasing an estate in Ulster, be cause he was unwilling to incur the responsibility of being liable to contribute poor rates to districts over which he had no control. The great evil at present was, t h at the people of Ir e l an d cou ld not see their way out of the ir difficulties, and this rate of two shillin gs u pon t h e union would increase that, and, therefore, he should give 1313 support to the amendment. Mr. FAG AN said he considered this proposed in creased rating had the effect of throwing ground out of cultivation. He thought it was necessary to have a malc itnutn rate fixed, and for that reason he had, and would continue to support the proposal of the Government. Mr. H. HERBERT said he wood gladly accept the guarantee, but he did not cons id er it worth more tha n the paper it wetg written upon. They bad resources now left; they would not revert to the con-acre. The fermi rs could not, as formerly, support the poor by vo luntary charity, because they were themselves reduced to a distressed condition. Neither could the gentrY afford relief from want of means. It was therefore fal lacious to say, as the Noble Lord had done, that when they reached the maximum they might return to theif, former resour ces . U n l ess t h e Noble Lord at the b ea d of the Government gave them a guarantee as to what e be should do when th e max i mum rate was exhausted; 00 certainly should vote for the amendment of his Hon* Friend. Mr. GROGAN support9d the amendment. They were, in his opinion, doing a most serious injury to til i people of Ir e l an d, b y l eg i slat i ng for them a s if the' whole of th e country was like the western port i on of t," when the facts were otherwise. He denounced the 2 1 union rat e to b e raised, in addition to the 5 , 4er as m ost mischievous, and f or hi s part he preferred 75. , or ev e n s 93. in th e p oun d at once, to the plan now propose ua. It was quite cl ear t h e mepsure proposed had not gi ve_ confidence to the people, for emigration was going 0 ' this year even more rapidly than the last. Sir DENIIAM NORREYS believed, that had the measure suggested l as t y ear b y t h e I r i s h M em bers to havetlle Government be en a d op e d , em i grat i on wou ld no t gone on as it had since done, or be so much increased in the present year. Then as to the objection raised that the maximum rate proposed by the Bill would not be sufficient, he had only to refer the House to what o u, been already collected. Of 130 unions in Ireland, out. the the entire number there was not one in which 7s. in . t . n_ h pound was collected; there were only seven in w.n l e c .. ss. in the pound was got in and eleven in which " was expended. The argument of the Hon. Member for Leitrim was that 7s. in the pond weurd not restore cone tidpitee, but surely if that were to bo the result what must be the consequence if an unlimited rate was to be pro posed. He contended that a maximum rate, such as that proposed by the Hon. Member for the City of Dub e lin would be most disastrous, and for his part it appeared , t r him to be impossible th a t the social and moral condi tion of the people of Ireland could improve unless con fidence were restored, which could only ba done by su.ch a measure as that now proposed. Sir JOHN WALSH complained that the House was one e t favour edMember during the ~fherm Majesty'se dtrate with Aiini t s he turs o . pin i im of lie es believednny that in a large portion of Ireland the maximum, rate would not be required at all—but in the distressed unions it would be perfectly nugatory. Some limit, how ever, he contended, ought to be put to the claims of those who demanded relief, or the whole frame of society would be destroyed.—(Gear, hear.) The poor-law had added to that destitution and misery in Ireland which it was intended to lessen. It appeared to him to be impossible not to conclude, from the papers before the House, three-fourths of the distress bad been created by the leve ing of the rates. The peasantry were reduced to beegary by the mode adopted for relieving the public distr ess . H e b a d only r i sen to explain w he had come to a conclusion dff .rent to that of some of his friends with wh om h e usually acted, aud that he intended to vot e f or t h e maximum rate proposed -bY Government. Mr. CORNWALL LEWIS said that the Hon. Member who had just addressed the House had com plained that no member of the Government had risen to express his opinions on the question before them; but he would remind the Hun. Member that it was the l e s s.; necessary that s h ou ld b e d one at present , as Government had already expressed its views on the subject. Their had, however, had tee advantage that evening of hearinit; the matt e r di scusse d b y severa l I r i s h M e mb e rs; but b e confessed that be had beard no answer given to fat) speech of the Hon. Member for Cavan (Sir J.e ff 7 .r g). It had been contended that th ere was nu precedent a maximum rate. In the case of theasnu bPjsiegochft ,awaraldli r a h a t : et awha other England there was a maximum rate , and s Member for a precedent., but it was on a_ ai d b rff b e y re t n h e, precedent.giiaoLTn .dht!eee there stvi as no precedent was that referred c mitted it was not therefore fixed in the last cen tury another Northampton. and he (Mr. .Lwewei,s_)ssvuor_urledycall attention to this maximum rate, a maximum A ra ct was as d county a U te, nd b e u r t h n e e t t h o e a o d c r b j u a e n e t n y t ol . In 1796 an " lessening the maxi tyre.. d in 1812, at the period of the greatest depreci mum, an further depreciation atimi o f the currencAy,btahnezwil j a g s a of the maximum. dent, and admitting that the the question of prece question of : a maximum mo st rest on its o wn peettiliazgrounds, he w ou ld ca ll at tention to the eTa ri n d el it ab ri ilhi( d a portThon, u f t o for a the a south series years,o h f asbe en the west of I r pieced, t enants leaving their America, n g houses,themselves over goi n g to parts of Ireland. Landlords could not get their rente e and that country almost resembled the condition of one Subjected to an invading army. Suggestions were coin iwlousnicated to Gov ernment from various quarters, that it B_, necessary to fi x a rate beyond a hich taxation hated not go, or otherwise it nas felt that the land %mild not btu cultivated. Acing on the advice of the Nor-law Commissioners and persons having local knowledge, the Government had come to the determi nation of fixing a maximum rate. If a rate of five shil lings had been rarely collected in the distressed unions they could hardly expect that a rate of five shillings could be increased. Therefore, by fixing a rate of five shillings, and a rate in-aid of two shillings, they gave a confidcneo to ratepayers that, whatever might be the exigencies of future years, a rate of taxation beyond. that would not be imposed. He thought the fears of ' Hon. Metubt rs on that subject had been greatly exag gerated. The necessity of restoring confidence in the southern and western unions was never of more import allot) than at the present moment. W ll9 g 913.