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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT'. MOUSE OF LORDS, NI6NDAY, JUNE 17. • Madder Duty tint, the lrisli Grmoil Jury Proentlount 114, and.the ErlinbUrgh Ptrlice Ltill, were brtiusht up (row iheLluimunna, ithd resil brit time. Lord tiIiDESbALE presented a Petition from 'Worthing, in favour of the Shoreiviin I.larbour '13111.-1441'bn the table.._ _ _ The Earl 9f EGitzi4owr Also presewed Peti , !aqui fr,,m 'Brighton, Steynifig,:.l-jorshain, ant New Slutrel,tun, in 'frii, l otir of ale ShorrhintlEldr. hour 1111.—Laiti on the table, ' The Parish Apprentices' Bill teas read a second time, and ortle,ed to be committed. Lord Lit.rolan fixed the second r realling.of the 'Nor Laws Bill for Wednesday. Lee's Patent Bill was read a second 'time, and . (trdered to be committed on tVednesday, after - et Shrill "conversation between the Earl of Lauder dale, Lord Redesdate, and the Marquis of Do.ten shire. Sir IV. Abdi's - Divorce Bill was read a thiitl time, and pa3secl. stwEtt COINASE. The Earl of Lauottab_see cOnsidered the' mea sures to be pursued relative to the uesv.Silver Coinage , would invOlve the people in ,great Eculties and eitperree, without being of any earthly benefit to them. lle shoal(' state whit be hail to ; say on this sithject, more with a view to dirot the attention of Miiiistetstd eertaiu points, than to bring over the House tri his opinions. The Noble Lind opposite (Liverpool), in stating that gold was the proper Standard for this coun try, declared, that he believed all agreed with hint in that opinion. Bet until lie (Leuderdale) had read the late Lord Liverpool's letter to theking, he had trever found any anchor (Mr, Lotke es pecially) that did not ,consider siker as the hest 51811(11rd of value. Neither should that standard be altered on account of the increasing riches of the country. But it had been asserted that gold was least variable in its price. How that could be .proved he was at a loss to know. Where gold was the measure, and silver the thing measured, the fluctuation in price of the former would, no doubt, appear to be in the latter, when it really was not so. He contended that they would do a thing fatal to the country, if they did net make silver the coin of legal tender, and the statvlard of value. With proper alloy it was harder, and preserved its impression 'longer, than gold. Silver was a less encouragement its:coun terfeiting or defacing the Coin than gold. Be sides, silver, however debased, would circulate/on the mere principle Of convenience. From the dis. 'eppearance of Ott Gold coil', he proved that silver wss the most proper for Coin, because it afforded less temptation fur sending it get of the-country. should also ,be adopted as a legal tender in retetebee to gohl, instead of ConOning . silver to being a legal tender to the extent of 425. Accord gto t he opinion of &briers in exchanges, ',it was impossible for any 'country, whose standard was %old, to have an escheoge at par. 'Lle hail tin. dertfoiel that the next gold coinage was, to he only of the value of 200. arid not :4, Us. H e agreed in the propriety of that measure, which he thought few would object to, uniess it might 'be the profestion4l ens n. —(A laugh.)-;.410 thought, hnvreyer, that nothing effeCtual could be done for the amelioration of the state of the coin, until some measure should he adlopted to "lessen the issue of ,dank paper, He conidice no reason far hurrying on this new coinage in the present state, of the country. He concluded by moving for a Committee to enquire whether there was any pros bability of the new silver coin remaining In circu lation; anW ale° to inquire into the policy of melting silver a legal tender beyond forty-two 'Lime Earl of LIVERPOOL said, his opinion on this subject rentained the same as when be brought the Prinee Regent's Message on the new Coin before the House. He believed that gold had been brade'the standard measure of value, because it was necessary foe the extensive dealings of the country. : When our gold Coin was defective, the exchanges were against its *; 'mid when it was re-estublished, the exchanges came round in war favour. It was also in the recommenda. lion of gold as a standard of value,, that it was an article not so generally used in manufacture as silver, and therefore must be much less fines trusting in value. Besides, it was easy to keep the gold standavd perfect by weighing the Coin ; but he woehl defy any man to prevail' on the peo. pie to weigh silver coin in, circulation. It was no innovation to make gold the standard, for, in tact, it hod'heen so dike 1774. The reduction 'of the deuothinative value of a guinea to 2Us. was is mere questitht of convenience; but for his own part, he would have liked better to have preserved the old denomination. lie did not believe that the whole amount of shillings and sixpences in circula tion, was more titan_ si million step ling. There was on intention to keep the Bank tokens iii circulation 'more than about 2, or at most mouths, alter the Wire of new Shillinei and Sixpences, because, by that tittle, the new Coinage of Half-crowns, and Crown-pieeeS, would be ready for circulai iou, to supply the place of the Bank' Tokens. Ile sin 'eerely concurred with the Noble Earl in his `anxiety, that the, Batik shank) resume its cash payments; but that could not be done without furnishing the country with a lieW Coinage. considered that all the arguments, and facts, and information that s existed on this subject, were be. fo r e the House and the Public ; for which' rea son he would oppOse the present motion. The Earl of LonEitoSta'cOntentled in reply, that here, 'as in France, the people Would Weigh the silver if it was made the legal tender of this country. repeated that he considered this as . rs meastrte . full of danger to the country, nor Wiauld fie take triton himself so heavy a responsibility as that which the Noble Earl had thought on The Earl of Ltvenivoe replied, and the motion mils Regal ived without a division,---Adjou'roed. HOUSE OF COMMONS. Mr. CANNirro took the - oath and las seat at Mernber for Liverpool. LuNG moved tor an e3timate of the ex • ptfpces of ratting a tenporary building at the 134- ••V . , , this 11nscum,, to iiinove the Ulein Maibtcs her.--Ordereil. NATION :kJ, MONUMENTS. General: TiioatirON gave notice, that on the 25th he would move ail Address to the Prince Re lent, to regnett that he would be pleased to or• der tl►e rection of two free Churches, to corn mentorate the victories of tiraterloo and Trtfalgar. The Surrogates' Bill went through a Caturnit tee.Report to-morrow. The 119nse went into a Committee on the Oil and Blubber Acts, and Bills were ordered to be brought in. Mr. ROSE, 6btainedleave to bring . in a Bill for better regulating the Drawing of the Half-pay . of Navy Officers ; the Bill was brought in, read alrst time, and ord.:red' for a second reading to morrow. Mr. Lust': NGTON moved that . the 'Order for the second 'reading of the Salt Duty Bill be discharged. Agreed `MAD•fIOUSES. moved tl►at the Report of the 'Ala(kittrusel'lJill be taken into further cunsitlera tiou, iLormfßostaT Selstoon paid high compliments to the AntlAor of the Bill, but contended that it ttid nut give sufficient powers to the COalillii• 4100C1'11. ,He reproved theregtilat manlier in which tlie,patients, iu Betliletn Itpspital ivere lately vi.- , tilted., bled, and vom , ited, Without much attention to the,vicistitutles of their disorder. This would not have happened had the Commissioners been .empowered to call more frequently and inquire more deeply. A short time ago the Commis' ; sinners bad visited, in two hours and tk hall, 406 patients at Hoxton, and could nor have had time to (till justice to them all. lie had been long in the habit of calling at those ghotics of human. misery, and the House would be surprised to learn, that until a few weeks he had never beard • of a lunatic being visited by a single relative or friend. It was not astonishing, therefore, that many abuses should prevail in liceneel mad. holism At Hoxton there was no classification of patients. At the establishment at York, al , though it was visited by Gentlemen of himmoity, there were four cells, in which thirteen women were locked up at night, and literally buried in their own nastiness. Female patients had also been found accessible to the keepers, and two women, who been excelltott , characters b e fore they'had been sent to this establishment, left it pregnant at their recovery, the one by timekeeper, and the Other by a pAtient. He then described the horrors of the punishment of the strait waist coat, 41f:tiered on refractory patients, and sail i that the lancet was sometimes employed for no other purpose than to reduce them to a state of cum .plete exhaustion. Mr. Rose contended that theta' ineessed Ma gistrates with littilicietit vowels to remove the abuses that might occur in Mad.hous.cs. The :Report was tbettlakeninto fakther.cothideration. Mr. C. WiNtltt suggested .the propriety or irt traducing a regulation in the VII, to apply to ,Houses where only one lunatic w4s contained.-- ;He then.proposesl to introilnee n ulouse,,,enacting. that no pet butt receive it limatic without , ecr tifie,ite from a medical than; stating , that the in- Was a fir subject . for confinement ; that when one shot& he proposed to the keeper, he :should send notice or it to .the c omm i ss i oners , whn would be sworn to secrecy, atol that should ultimately ,obtain permission trtim the Secretor) , of State to receive the patient. Mr. Rau Moved the re-commitment of the Lord fitt4:l NG wished that the provi , ions of the Bill shoold he tnade to extend to Scotland. The Bill WAS then ordered to be re-committed to.morrnw. Mr. &Lis presented an estimate of the expenees of x temporary building for the reception of the Elgin Matbles.—Ordered to be referred to the Committee of Supply. Sir H. PAINELL presented a Petition from the Inhabitants of Dnblin, praying that the imptove ments proposed by the Committee on the Holy head Packet 13111 be carried into et et.---Laid on the table. Lord FOLKITONR presented a Petition from Thomas John %Volker, against punishing Small Crimes with Death, and praying that an Asylum be provided for the reception of Petty Criminals. Ordered to lie on the table. Mr.Goaa_LANGTON presented a Petition signed by 3,377 Persons, from the Inhabitants of ti►e County of Somerset, against any Addition to the Salary ot . the Curonets.—Ordeted to he on the table. Bir Ssmust.'lloitst.t.Y presented a Petition from a member of Gentlemen holding testaments in the Spine of Lincoln's Inn, against the - erection of Couto for the Chancellor and Vice-Chancellor, in Lincoln's Inn Garden. After a few words from Mr. Couitr€NAY, the Petition was read ozoi ordered to lie tto tile ttible. reisding of tkc Gas Bill Was post poned till I'Veilg4s~{rty, INCOME TAX. Mr. BantiGRAM said, that in the present (Hs.: tressed state of the country. malty pctsons wished to= know whether it was the intention of the Chan cellor of the Exchequer, next Session, to pro pose the revival , of the lacotue Tax, either wholly orin part • The CHANCOLGOR of the Extivaturen, in a mftn ner scarcely audible in the &riflery, 14+113 uotler, stood to disclaim sock an intentioo. DARBADOES. Mr. BitowN ir►qaired whe►her the, dispatches front the West unties had arrived ? The CrisNcet.Loa. of till? EXCHEQUER. answered in the affirmative, but he had noi yet seen thew. ilitowt4 suggested the propriety of gob mitting t o are House a Copy of so much of the dispatches from the West _lndies as migh t be, ex pedient and necessary for the ekluithition oi the ea bjett. Lord CASTLEREAGH hatritot yet had tune to peruse the dispatches attentively ; but it e,se floc. Gentleman chase to ti►ove for a copy to-fituri•o*, lie avoid then be able to girt a mor ; tketisive answer. The House Went into a Connuittee la the Coal 1( 'Only Acts, - and Bills were oickre'.l to be brought in. , .. The flushaiiticy 11.nrs . t: Hi]! was read is thire, time, and passed. (lONs4LIDAtio2ST OF THE EXCHEattEttF. • lie tIiANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved timt the Report 'of the 'Committee on the Excite cloth Con'solidation Bill IA: ialt`en into further euri , ideration.—Agreed to. On the eladse fin giving a salar'y of 33b0h0 the Vic-Treasurer being read', Mr. i'ortsoitav said, that be wOuld tin t delay the flottse very long; nor rep e at the arguments which he had already itsed against the magnitude of the sal ar y prnPosed to he granted to the Vice- Treasurer. If lie had erred in moving in the Com, ntittee that it he reance'd t 6 20001. he had erred on the side'of' liberality„ lie should nut, how ever, go back from what he had said,. and con cluded by moktint, that instead of =AL 20001. :be inserted. The CHANCELLO R of the titbit-1141mi thongiii it necessary to explain, once more, the groundi on which it was propinted_to create at Vice-Trea ~ . surer for Ireland, and to gi ve hint a salary of 35001. dS there were nianytentlemen present t h is evening, who had not au opportunity of hearing them on Friday night. lie titeniileated his former statement, in nearly the smile terms as those we gavv. on Saturday. Ilouse then divided - Fp! the Amendment Against it Majority against Ministers .., .• • On being re-itilmittuti ‘ve round 'Mr. PONSOMBY saying, that the arguments nse&, by the Gentlemen Opposite, in. favour of the Vice:. Treasurer having a eat in Parliament, had been •chiefly-tounded on the magnitude of his salary that salary being now reduced .to 20001. a -year, and the s . ame grounds' no longer existing, lie should think it his duty,, on the third reacting of ;the Bill, to °Ouse the clause for giving that -officer ti ,Seit in the House, if Ministers had the flee to propose it after what had just taken place. The CHAgCELLOtt of the Excoratten maintain ed that it was not on account of the magnitude of his proposed Salary that it was intended .to give the Vice,Treasurer loth-eland a seat in Par liament, but it had been ccusidered' that a per son -entrusted with so high a *charge must neces sarily be fit to sit in that House, and.could not bat prove an acquisition to it. Mr. TIEONEY wished to' know what qualities, in the Opinion of the 0141=0110r of the 'Ex chequer, rendered a man fit to hold a seat in that Hhusel Oa the Chinse for creating a Deputy being read, BANKIIS objected to the creation of a De ! puty tt enable the Vice-Treasurer to have a seat in that 'louse, unless he 510.1.1 d be paid out of the Salary of MS rtincipal. I-Ie contended that the Vico-Treasurer should remain in Ireland, where the monies- were to he issued, and • not augfliClit the minsher of place nest in Parliament. at the third reading of the Bill he should oppose the Ow innal Tor gibing the Vice-` reasurer a beat in the Sir J. NEWPORT said, that the Office of Vice- Treasurer could only be rendered effectual by hi% residence on qua of Ilk ditties. The CiI*NCELLOR Uf the-BXCREQUER then pro posed that the Bill should be read a third time on lVeduesilay. PofssONßY thought that to.mnrrow.wooll be better; la% there would be a great deal of busi ness on Werinesthty. Lord CARTLEttrIAGII COW-4:4W that on that very account it was likely a fuller attendance should be obtained on Wednesday, than if the third reading were to conic On tn-morrow. TtattNr.y observed, that the Rig,:tt Hon. Gentleman opposite had waited.till ON late pet-101l of the Session, in. the hope of cityrying their job through. They had tailed, and now tiiey were %vit.. !Moo carry huita Itt fact, they wished to hurry on, Judos they were checked, from job to job, till the ead of the ,Session, If the Noble, Lord, however, and his Administration, had not been understood) before, this night would mike the)n completely understood by-the country, Lord CASTLELiBt•GM thought, that as the Right Bon. Gentleman had hi thertripostponed his jour ney out of ,town from day to day, one day more could not prove materially inconvenient to' him. He preferred Wednesday, because he thought the I-louse might be secure on that day.of a td) at tendance, Air. TIERNEY .had certainly intended to go out of town ; but when he found the 'Noble Lord had the face to propose such a job as the present - at the end of .the Session, there was at once an end of his journey. It might be some comfort, how erer, to the Noble Lord to find, that if one tra- . yeller war goirg, another had, arrived. • Mr. C. WvNtia observed, that on Wednesday there were VO 45 Orders of the Day, w hil s t to-mot- VOW there were only five. Lord CASTLIIREaCtif said, that to-morrow was Nhe .celebration of the Battle of Waterloo, and that on that Recount it was not' likely a full at tendance would be obtained. Mr. TIERNEY would have no ()election to Wed nesday, if the trestion n ere allowed to come on first. After a few words from. Mr„-ItaouGHAN, the third reading was fixed for Wednestiiirpext. The Chancety Court Bill' Was read a second time. The Charitable Donations Bill was read a third time, and passed, after some observations from Mr. Wilf/TTSSLEY, who proposed an additional clause. COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY. The House having gone into the Committee, several of the nriihaey Estimates for the Army, and the Aliheellaneons Servicesof the year, and those of the Civil Li,t, were moved and agreed to, utter a very stout and unimportant conversation between Mr. TlLlttslitY anti the CUANCELLOSI of rite Exalt MUER.' The next Resolution, which also gang 'rise to a you vers )i), WastllHt for gr► n (lag the Slim of 300,0001. for defraying the ckpence of such Civil crVicei as tlitt not tOrm a pia 'a the ot•;niar!Yi cttarges of the Civil List. ' The followinx Resautions were alsO - propascii. andagretil to :- 115,4601..14 remnilteration Sri the . i'ett;• OtFavi Seamen, and,,l4larines a ,nuder &rod Keith, st•lieu employed oft the eoasti of Spain 411 1 0 France, for cdptures nriidv del". that A*64. Before the ILerogutioil teas agreed to, Mr.., Elardiet expressed bis regret that the v,:ito bad tint been brouglA trirward at an earlier period of.the Session., 150,0001„ distribution iiniongo! We Officers, ' Miriner Uhler Captain Campbell, fur eauttiring Naples 110,, 14 'Hat's nark, the, ships havirig been given up to the Nea politan Government. 1000:100/. for,gueeu Anne's Bounty. , , ;1 NV. fur removing the Elkin Marbles to the Drithill t i xpot. for erecting a temporary building fur the re ception of those Marblei. • 54,0001. fur Foreign and other Secret Services for 1810 . Mr. TtartNe% wished for some eicplatiation so large a sum should be required in tittle of peace! , AtIBUTI4I4OT Sttitl it dill tit/L(0110W shits thf sum Would be used because it was voted ; but it was necessary to have it in brid; Lord Cismatti,ton eicriressed himself preciSelr, 'to the same effccii adding, that was a considerg.7 ble reduction fro m what had usually been voted in time of war, which in One year had amounted '') 2 1 0 7 , ° 411 ° . 1 f . 0r niakino and retiairing Roads, trays,High b aysn the Resolution esißridges,ouiioinn being; thelghlands of SPPotl an(l7 On 'c 75,0001. for the "Pence ut u Navigation Canal. . Mr. illtrii/Gtuat . nirilied to know wha t 1 "'" 1 " Gad already ~beeii laid out this ilwlcrtohjog , Mr. AlttrrtiNOT said • between ;i0,090b aod r ia a k d ing e" stn gr gitaitiligle 60,0001. , Alt. BatinistiAm 'rePlied, that this new malt I . )e . H MOW, ot the public: - money, as it wo The . oviion of the could experienced Engineers thAL the work never r s could be contpkted. Mr. W. DotinAs asserted, that the contrary was the ease. The Canal bdog nearly ant, it would be lake economy 0) withhold a gr 3 to 75,0001, for years', to complete 5 o grtat au vote object, without which, all that had been previalls• ly expended would be lust. brief cOnYersation between gr'. John Smith, .Mr. Win. Diidas, Mr. Beibinglou;' and Lind Binning (who said, th a t w h en t h e (.ator was completed, it would produce a revenue dl ' 40,0001. a yeai), Mr. Cali:raft, and the Clianadfri, of the Exchequer (who asset ted that the addition" grains would not Make the whole e.%eeeil 7011,0 014 : and descanted on the great advantages witi ; tl l , %mild he derived to the wi ) r m : was complctet!), the Resolution was agreed to,. The fullowing • souls were voted Without • material eilmervations Fur the establithweutuf the Milbank Penitentiarylietl'e Fur the expences of building the same - Fur completing the embankment on the Thonies ' oppo• site to the Penitentiarr House - • „ i v For building and I-clashing forts on the Co as t of Africa For works required to be done, in the king's Fleoch 'Prison . Fur repairing the roads between Holyhead ' Chester;and 00 j • • 10; , 'Bangor Ferry - - • - 4 V) For the txpences of improving Holyhead Harhbor On the Resointitin for the grant of 20,4641. Dui the expenees of the Royal Naval Asylum, b,; Monr. Host-. said, he did not anticipatc .att)' ° jeCti to this vote, The d ema „,l was AI: color); ' to make spineprovision f u r th e child.ren who occasionally removesi, The Governor r eeci " . instructions to dispose of th e c hild re n to tite s ' service as tar as pdtsible. There was no instuii-. thin more impartially conducted t h e re not Or ie n. a single instance of a child,haying been admitiv't through favour in any way whatever. V'er e hscl been 71 boys sent to the naval service, 1'25 I ° l merchants' service, 164 who hod run awily• a" 14 who had died. all ass, Sir CcLtat. as Pout 'bore testimony to " • Right Hon. Gentlernan h a d s aid i n f a vour of I high character of the Offi cers connec ted wi!b , establishment ; but it was Much to be regrette d': that only 71 boys had been produced to the Nog' ' from institution which - had cost the cool upwards of 406,01./0/. 'fie did not think at stlc'; a time the Society hail any right to come to PO: !lament and ask for 20,00'0/. when their font's aL• this moment amounted to 90,0001. and partieidarlf as Parliament Kati no conteotil over the illsiit il .; tion. '!'here had also . been 40,01)01. voted to 1 by the Patriotic Fund, 'which he contended . 01 au improper application. Ile should move as 64 amendment, that it was not expedient to cl'O C this, vote. lie thought it degrading to the Lord of the Admiralty to take his seat at Bign't ns a secondary Officer ; and for all the reasons ll° had stated, be shriuld oppose the vote from year . year, till be saw . the institution becom e a Nar.l s . Establishment. Mr. Ross pointedly defended the regnhlti ( ' fl e s of the establisment, an d :the integrity of eee r r j Officer connected writ!) it. The c a pi ta l er f4o ,oou : fl ; given by the Patriotic Fund Was on the ocr e ,l condition that a Cert a i n flambee of boys s l "'" t' ;'„ • be taken, to be br ou ght ti p and educated for I" - merchants' service. The Institution had b e en ducted as well and at economically as any in the kingdom. ..Sir CHARLES MoacK ohjecte4 to tile vote* r r fi i t i vided the sum 'required for the institution Ot°; (4. not exceed the pro c eeds u p on t h e sum o f' 40,W: already in hand. He thought it discreditalk,c l : only 71 boys had be en p ro d uce d t o the iNsT,'' while 164 had run away. r er• After a few words fr om M r . CALCRArti sire of his hope th at t h e ga ll ant Ad m iral ry" perform his pledge of taking up the subject o° ' session, ' H Mr.- ARBUTNOT afterwards amended th Pe e to solution, and moved a grunt .of 20,5 001 . " ci applied to the purpose specified, it enough 0 .' 1 60 not be received f rom the Managers of the rtni l° Fund to answer the purpi.se. the PO Mr. LOCK HART sa id, - t h e M anage rs Of ••-- triotie Fund had not a sum in their hand s A c t i t to the pr o p ose d G rant . A t prcient t hey ha" 31,0001. in the Three per Cents. ‘t. , After a short c on v er s a tion, in which the I , torney.General, Sir C. P o le, and Mr. Matrr io participated, Mr. Arbuthnot declined pressing t tesolution, and thought it better for the Pri g to withd r a w it a l toget h er . it was ACCONOIb withdrawn. ?f 8,4001. was grunted towards the erectio n asylum for th e r e ce ptio n o f critbinat ItlilatiCg. A grant of 3,0001. was moved to temuner; Mr. Aaron Graham for various servicelperl4/