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SPIRIT OF THE PUBLIC JOURNALS. Ancient English family, to be a question which the Irish nation, Protestant and Catholic, are panting sith eagerness to have fully and finally settled. Of the Orange faction we say nothing : they are the old devourers of the State, and fight not for religion or principle, but for plunder. But we appeal to the votes of the Irish representatives for the fact, that the bulk of the Protestant community in Ireland are devoted advocates for emancipation. The Pro testant gentlemen of Ireland, identified with Church and State, implore the British Parliament, for the sake of both, to release the Catholic from bondage, and restore the island to tranquillity. The words of Lord Rossmore are remarkable and affecting. - After disclaiming all idea of intimidation as applied to England, he says, " I come here a Protestant, to call upon Protestant England to interpose to save the Protestant Establishment its Ireland,—to save the Protestant Church there, before she destroys herself,—to save Protestant property there, —to save mine,—l have none elsewhere !" this we conceive to be a form of admonition which cannot be very wisely or effectually withstood. Lord Rossmore goes on to explain the successive and cruel breaches of faith which Ireland has experienced in the non fulfilment, of Ist, the articles of Limerick ; and 2d, the solemn and absolute promises tendered to the Catholics by Mr. Pitt and Lord Cornwallis at the Union, by which it is admitted that the consent of the Catholics was bought in favour of that plausible hut disappointing measure. The Catholics, it is certain, handed over the property ; but the purchase money has never been paid.—Aid. If we were given to superstition, we should be in some alarm for the new Ministry, on account of a succession of disappointments of evil omen experien ced by them at their very outset. It appears, from the Record of the Court Newsman in another co lumn, that on Tuesday evening they remained at the Royal Lodge till nearly eight o'clock, in expectation of the arrival of a Clerk of the Council, to enable them to hold a Privy Council ; that they did not arrive in London till ten o'clock, where the sump tuous dinner given by the Duke of Wellington had been kept waiting for nearly three hours ; and that, notwithstanding a very natural longing to take pos , session of their offices, the whole of yesterday passed without their being able to gratify it, on account of the unfortunate neglect already alluded to. The omission to which these melancholy results are at tributable, according to the Court historian, rests with the Home Office. It says a great deal for the generalship of the Commander-in-Chief, that in con ducting a famished Cabinet from Windsor to Apsley house, to a sumptuous dinner, spoiled by a delay of three hours, he was able to keep them so far in check, as to prevent them from falling foul of each other, for want of legitimate objects on which to vent their indignation. Many great philosophers have fallen by the ears for less than the loss of a sump , tuous dinner, on which they had feasted themselves in imagination. It was certainly a much more se vere trial to a Cabinet than the choice of the Chair man of a Finance Committee; and while some may deem the incident of evil omen, we, on the other hand, consider the outliving this peril as of excellent augury, affording as it does a proof of the steadiness and immoveability of the new Ministers. It is to be hoped, however, that a due inquiry will be made into the cause of an event which might have beer. attended with the most calamitous results. The Home Office should be no longer a home to him, who could put the patience of a whole Adminis tration to so severe a trial. The guilty ought cer tainly to be made an example of. We do not mean to say, that the example of Ali Paella, who put a whole kitchen to death, because a feather or hair, we forget which, was found in a dish, should be follow ed on this occasion; but still there are many ways of reaching the guilty short of this. No reasonable man could blame Ministers for preventing the man who spoiled their sumptuous dinner from ever eat ing a good dinner again in the course of his life. We tremble to think what the consequences to his Majesty might have been, had Mr. Huskisson, Mr. Peel, or Lord Ellenborougli, while arguing on an empty stomach, fallen to loggerheads, and the Ad ministration been in consequence broken up. The Church was in danger on that occasion ! It is ob -served by a Scotch Paper, the Caledonian Mercury, that " if France prospered under a Statesman, whose only desire was riot to govern too much, England might go on indifferently well without any Government at all. In that singular condition it is her fortune to be actually placed ; yet while politi cians are manoeuvring for place, and parties are strug gling for power, the vast machine of society is im pelled onwards as before; and it is only from the columns of a Newspaper we discover that the vessel of the State has been abandoned by the metaphori cal helmsman, and that the figurative crew have quitted their posts, and run into the utmost confu sion." The numerous interregnums in administra tion, which we have experienced within a year or two, may be considered in the light of valuable experi reents to ascertain how far a country like this is not as well without a Ministry as with one. Who knows for what purposes Providence may have enabled us to see how well we can do without a Ministry ? We never heard the falling off of the Revenue attributed to the frequent want of Ministers, nor have we ever heard that there was any falling off of the expenditure on that account ; and we ate yet to learn what a Go vernment has to do but to raise money and to spend it ; or that when as much has been raised and spent as usual, there could be any thing the matter with it. There is an idea abroad, that the Duke of Wel lington will be prevailed on to resign the Premier ship, from that conviction of his unfitness for the discharg.s of its duties, which he has himself ex pressed in his place in Parliament. But a contem porary, the New Times, has very shrewdly observed, that he might very seriously entertain that opinion a y ea; ago, and entertain a very different opinion now. Our cor:Tmporary here evidently alludes to the ex perience has been furnished of the possibility of going on withou: a Ministry ; for he may have thought, when he spoke za if qualifications were ne cessary to a Prime Minister, titiJ it was necessary a Premier should do something foe bis money. In any other sense he cannot have changed his opinion; , for if he was unfit one year ago, he cannot :well be fit now, except we suppose that, in the intervening time, he may have been hard study;eg for office, and that the science of governing an empire may he ac quired in about one-fourth part of the time that is expended in learning to make a pair of shoes. We need never hereafter be under any alarm about a Ministry. His Majesty may take the first man he meets in the streets, and ire cannot fail to go on swimmingly. It must be a great comfort to his Majesty so know how lit tle uneasiness be would ex- perience on this, account. It has been hitherto said that any man may do far a King; but Nye have im proved on the.sayings for wstis ns any man may do for a Prime Minister. The Duke of Tellington is evidently UN improvement on Lord Siffinout4.— ;lin /72 iitg, Chroulele, Some alarm was excited in the Palace of the Areh bishop of Canterbury, at Lambeth, ,or) Tuesday morning, about one o'clock, by t he arrival of a (let patch from the Duke of Wellington, with the word " Immediate" superscribed on the envelope. In consequence of this intiessation, his Grace was Awakened; the Archbishop immedie,tely arose, and read the despatch. The rumours on this urnestral ar rival were various ; but nothing has transpired from which any con j ec t = c an be drawn as to the purport of the communication.—Holfling Herald. Though the main cause of the disselution of the hate Ministry will, we have no doubts be 1040 to have been its inability to meet Parliament ; yet there will be, we are persuaded, whenever Parlia ment assembles, some awkward disclosures made as to minor points of difference among themselves. These disclosures and heartburnings will, however, in ail probability, be much softened down by to many of the late Cabinet continuing in office. Had there been a total change, crimination and recrimination would, in all likelihood, have known no bounds. Even as it is, those who hunt after State secrets will have ample food to live upon. Lord Goderich will be naturally looked to as the principal actor There appears likely to be a fresh perplexity on the opening of the ensuing session of Parliament. It is desirable to put off Parliamentary proceedings till the new Ministers shall have been re-elected ; but can further proceedings be stayed, if the session h e regularly opened by the Royal speech Or can the new writs be moved for, and Parliament ad journed till after the return of the writs, before the cause for summoning- the Parliament he declared by the Royal Speech It appears that the latter pro ject has been contemplated. Tke precedents in Hatsell are derived front irregular times or an unfor seen event, over which man has no conttoul. But the writer's observations on the subject are clear and decisive. On the 18th of February, 1662, the 20th of February, 1665, and the 18th of September, 1666—a1l days on which Parliament met after a prorogation—it appears that hills were read, writs issued, and some other unimportant business at tempted, " before the entry of the message from the King to attend him in the House of Peers."— Hatsell's Precedents, Vol. 11. Title—" King opens the Session." But upon these proceedings Mr. Hatsell remarks—" At the beginning of a Parlia- ment, and at the commencement of every session after a prorogation, the cause of summons must be declared to both Houses assembled, either by the King himself, or by some persons by his command, or by persons authorised by his commission, before either House can proceed upon any business what ever. The proceedings, therefore, on the 18th of February, 1662 ; the 20th of February, 166,5; and on the 18th of September, 1666, were certainly irre gular.- —ld. ibid. We should suppose this dictum of authority would silence all controversy on the subject. Reason also, and common sense, agree with authority. It would be as proper to continue business at the end of a session, after the proroga tion speech, as to commence business at th, beginning of a session, before the opening speech. During all the interval between the proroga tion speech of one Session, and the opening speech of the ensuing Session, Parliament is in recess—it does not exist as an acting or deliberative body. The other precedent, taken from the time of Kin , g Wil liam 111., agrees with this doctrine On the Bth of September, 1690, the House being met, and the King not coming (he had arrived in England, but !sad not yet reached London), the ,douse adjourns till the 11th, and from the 11th to the 12th." `4. hat is, it does nothing, but simply disperses, till it can meet the King, and have the Session opened by him. in another part Mr. Hatsell says—" I have observed before, that when the Parliament meets on the day to which it has been prorogued, it is irregu )ar for them to pr'oceed to do any business whatever till the cause of summons has been declared, and the Session opened by the King, or persons authorised by him, in the House of Lords ; and if from any wanse the King does not come in person (as on the :7ith of September, 1690), or send a commission for opening the Session, or proroguing the Parliament, the House of Commons ought to do nothing but ad journ to a future day." The most natural course of proceeding, therefore, it rippe:u..; to us, L),., to open the Session by receiving the King's Speech— ( which is not necessarily taken into consideration on the same day)—to move immediately for new writs, and then adjourn Parliament till the Ministers are re-elected.—Times. The Meeting of the British Catholic Associatio WI Tuesday last, ought not, at the present moment, to be passed over with indifference. The Irish As sociation has, by the frequency of its meetings, im paired, in some measure, the separate influence of each of them, although it would be a gross error to suppose that the aggregate and accumulated effect of that popular institution upon the mind of the Irish Protestant, as well as Catholic, has not been ro create a new and most formidable power, spread ing itself to every corner of Ireland, and exercising a real dominion which no mere party, like that of the old Orangemen, can henceforth successfully resist. it is true that the declamatory violence in which some of the Irish Catholics have been prone to in dulge, Ins furnished pretexts, if not reasons, to those among their opponents who see, in the great sub ject of emancipation, a struggle between persons only, and not a choice of principles. If statesmen were justified in passing bills through Parliament, or rejecting them, because personal feelings towards individuals happened one day to be soothed, and the neat disgusted, there might be some excuse for the language that has been employed in speaking of MessrS. Shiel i:nd O'Connell, by anti-Catholic gen tlemen, both in and out of Parliament. An English Judge would scarcely venture to decide a question of strict right, by referring to the mildness or velle mence of tone in which the suitor or his advocate had pressed for justice. Could au historian of the next century bring himself to record, or the reader of that age be induced to credit the assertion, that in the year 1828 seven millions of Catholics in the United- Kingdom had, after an hundred and forty years e.f exclusion from the rights and powers of free citizens, been still retained in their humiliating con dition, because two or three long-winded Irish bar risters had made as many turbulent speeches ? This is to degrade a noble subject of general and long enduring legislation, into 0. trumpery squabble be tween some half dozen ineendieries, tricked out in - their respective;ribands of orange and green. Who will know, an hundred years hence, that such beings as O'Connell and his brethren of the market place have existed? Prolong, indeed, she grievances of their body, and you secure to them their sole chance of immortality. But pass the law by which every Catholic gentleman re assumes his natural place, and stands erect before the world ; thenceforth, and for ever, the busy occu pants of the present stage are lost in the new as semblage; they are silenced, neglected, and forgot ten. But mark the astonishing inconsistency of the logic used against the Catholics. " The Irish de magogues are insolent bullies—they would frighten us, forsooth—they would bid defiance to old Eng land—they deserve nothing, and nothing shall they have." If such, then, be the real ground en which the penal laws are continued against Ireland, our Eldons and Peels, to prove their integrity, ought long since to have hi might in a bill for bestowing e mancipation On the Catholics of //tie country, who are probably, if the whole kingdom were ransacked, .the most patient, submissive, amenable, and mo narchical, of all his Majesty's subjects. And what is the conduct of the Orange party in relation to this long-suffering nobility and gentry ? Why, when a measure was proposed two or three years since, in favour of the British Catholies,a e distinct flout their ;rish. brethren, Lord Eldon and his party voted pe remptorily, and spoke very snappishly against them. Yet what was the amount of the meditated indul gence ? It was not to admit the Catholic Peers .and gentlemen of Great Brita in to the privil ege of sitting in Parliament, nor nothing- like it, but simply to ra ise the English Catholics to the same level on which the Irish are already placed ! And this mi serable boon was even contumeliously refused t o them. Such are the rewards of patience under in jury; such the good faith of those who cry out that it is the Irish ‘,2gitators" wh o h ave rieetted the chains of their country ! The meeting of Tues day last was in its chief part composed of Eng lish Catholics. They a greed to petition the Le gislature for redress; and if, in future, they show themselves more active than hitherto,—it, without the had taste of certain Irish orators, they exhibit a little more of the Protestant spirit of energetic and manly resistance to oppression, :it appears to us that they will suffer no _ thing in the opinion, of honest members of the Church of England, and assuredly nothing in their reputed fitness to enjoy and exercise the privileges ,of the Constitution. A striking circumstance oc eue-red at this meeting—we tnean the attendance of an e `,eish Protestant Peer, Lord Rossmore, who made a long and able speech in support of the cause of emancipation. Now let the anti-Catholics mark this well. f r,h?, 4 •44l i estiop isivo longer one between Catholic, an4 l -"grtikle . .leeis stated, and truly tetated i 14510440 thcitkresentative of an e „ .. ..-- 1 • 4 b ,.4..? rt . ov li) ---- , t :7 i i , r „.;,.,..,._,..,..._.,., ~.....„.:. ~, „.......... in the drama of explanation. The country has a favourite theory; before it arrived at the point at full right to demand and know from that Noble Lord which they thought it likely to prove dangerous; or upon what principle he can justify taking and those who would urge him forward with unreflecting holding office up to the very eve of Parliament's zeal, and never desert him until danger became meeting, and then apparently running away as from visible. —Morning Post. a house on tire. The Whigs, we hear, threaten that We consider it- unnecessary to go at length into they can tell strange things but they will act Lord , „ ttossmore's speech, a copy of which was given wisely to look at home first. But it is not these mutual bickerings which will satisfy the country at in our Paper of yesterday. The statements made, large. They may do very well to amuse the fre- certainly in a most commendable spirit of modera quenters of clubs, and the lovers of scandal and tion, and the arguments employed by his Lordship, small talk in the different coteries of the Metropolis are not so novel in the matter or manner as to re and elsewhere. Such. persons, whose opinions are quire it. The really interesting part of his Lord not w or th a thought, have, it is true, much more ship's speech was the letter which it quoted from appa r e n t influence than their utter worthlessness en- Mr. Lidwell, and more particularly the passage of titles them to. Under a weak Administration, like the that letter which appears to be an extract of one last, these grubs, moths, and butterflies, came into written by the Marquis Cornwallis. The Catholic action, and appear to double the period of their claims are not now grounded for the first time on ephemeral existence. Every clerk in office be- the faith of treaties and compacts. How far it is comes a chatterer, and, taking the tone from wise in their advocates to stickle for these feeble out weak superiors, asserts the knowledge and im- works, we leave them to judge, as they are best en portance of a principal in the person very titled. The capitulation of Limerick is one of these; often of a very silly inferior. In this way the hopes held out at the Union another. The let the town is inundated with reports having ter, which has hitherto been implied, is now attempt little or no foundation ; and Mr. This of the ed to be made specific by the extract in question. and Mr. So-and-so of this o r that The force of that article in the capitulation of Lime- Treasury,departtnent, pass for oracles among those whom rick, on which the Catholics build in part their hopes the very refuse of office passes for officia l au- of succ es s, may be easiest understood by a perusal. thority. The new Government will do well to put It runs as follows : a stop, as far as it can, to this species of the " spar - "Article 1. The Roman Catholics of this Kingdom gere voces." Great part of this, however, has been religion, shall enjoy such privileges in the exercise of their d, enjoy ar in th e consistent r i with laws of Ired, I the natural consequence of the country having an theg Charles their Administration which has been evidently a fraid of Majesti e s, as soon as theiregm of affairs will permit them to sum meeting Parliament and of speaking out—a Govern- mon a Parliament in this Kingdom (Ireland), will endea ment of expedients, which, like timid people in psi- vour to procure the said Roman Catholics such further vote life, do any thing to avoid the evil day. We do security in that particular as may preserve them from any not mean to flatter our national character when we disturbance upon the account of the said religion." say, that one of its natural impulses is a character It is evident by the above article that the Roman of the people, such should be also the character and Catholics can claim no privileges that they did not conduct of its Government. However unfavourable enjoy under Charles 11., and of these such only as were the state of public affairs may be, half the inconve- consistent with the Laws of Ireland. All immuni nience and danger to be apprehended from them ties granted to them, by virtue of the dispensing vanishes when truth and openness prevail, and when power exercised by that Monarch, it takes away. the people see that the Administration has nothing It is evident that it was very far from being the wish to conceal. It is this character of undisguise which of De Ginkel to grant extraordinary favours to the we would recommend to the new Administration. Catholics. A more positive indication of his senti- Let them throw themselves openly and fairly upon ments may be found in the articles which he reject the country, without reserve, without real or mental ed than in those which he granted, the tenour of reservation.—lbid. which is by no means of that strict and definite elm racter that their admirer would persuade us. The attempts of the disconsolate Whigs to sow Among the rejected articles is the following : the seeds of disunion among the present -Ministers, " Art 4. Irish Papists to be capable of employments, or at least to keep up, as well as they can, and for military and civil, and to exercise all professions, trades, a brief season, the drooping spirits of their own fac- and callings." tious adherents throughout the country, by per- This De Ginkel refused to _,orant, because it was not suading them that the elements of discord already only contrary to the laws of the realm, se far as he exist in the Administration—will prove as vain as knew them, but dishonourable to himself. 'What they are evidently preposterous. The present Ad- would the Presbyterian Dutchman have said, had ministration are at least as earnest in their desire to the article, in addition to the employments generally enforce a rigid economy, so far as may be consistent mentioned, added, seats in Parliament, Lord Chan with the national dignity and welfare in the public cellorships, every thing, Kingship excepted, and that expenditure, as their immediate predecessors; and excepted only because it happens to be hereditary ? if they should be less noisy in their professions of In speaking of the implied pledges at the Union, this desire, it may be some compensation to the Mr. Lidwell remarks, that they were so notorious public to know that they will not attempt, even for at the time that no one thought it worth while to a single year, to postpone any investigation of which chronicle them, and it was only by accident that the they admit the necessity, or to delay any reforms written proof which he communicated to Lord Ross which can be shown to be safe and practicable. No more had been preserved. We think, however, it individual of this Administration, we venture to might have struck Mr. Lidwell, that if hopes had say, will seek to attract to himself a meretricious been held out so generally as he says, we might, at popularity by vague and empty declamation the distance of only twenty-seven years, command upon this subject, to the - disparagement of if not abundance of documentary, abundance of oral his Colleagues; for, if any one should go testimony, to the fact. There must be some half about this cunningly to elevate himself i n the million of Catholics in Ireland at this moment, opinion of the multitude, he would no doubt be in- who were come to the years of discretion in stantly and severely rebuked by Mr. Huskisson, who 1800, and of these, four or five hundred at has practically demonstrated in a very recent in- least should be able to speak to the point at stance his entire acquiescence in the sentiment corn- issue. But we rather think that Mr. Lidwell mon to all who have the least claim to reputation as will find, by having recourse to documents that are Statesmen—that adequate remuneration ought in by no means of difficult access, that the Catholic policy and justice to be allotted to all who labour in Question was mentioned, and mentioned very plainly, the service of the State. So much for this the fa- during the discussions on the Union. In the de vourite topic with those who for their own factious bates that took place in the Irish Parliament, in the and selfish purposes suggest the probability of dis- Session of 1799, we admit that nothing, so far at union. With respect to the relaxations which have least as we recollect, escaped any of the speakers— progressively taken place of that system of restric- and they were neither few, nor were their harangues tion which was embodied in the old commercial very guarded—touching the Catholic Question, ex code of this country—another of the prominent cept Arr. Foster (on the 11th of February), who topics of the apostles of disunion—their case is observed, in commenting on Mr. Pitt's speech, that equally hopeless. Although the name of Mr. this- the Irish Parliament might adjust all points in which lisson is popularly attached to 'these measures, the the Protestants and Catholics differed, as judiciously fact is quite certain—let it be supposed to involve and effectually as an Imperial Legislature. But this praise or censure —that all the leading and most was not tire case in 1800, when Mr. Grattan re influential Members of the present Cabinet appeared for the first time after his Parliamentary were also Members of that, under the sane- secession. In that year, that most accomplished tion of which they were proposed to and ap- of Irish speakers objected to the Union, because proved by the Legislature, as well as a n- "it was no Union : it was not an identification of other fact equally important, viz, that the last the people, for it excluded the Catholics." He ad steps taken by that united Cabinet were retro- ded, on the same subject, " What was the language grade instead of advancing—were in opposition of the Ministers' Advocates to the Catholics ? " Yon to, and not in pursuance of the theoretic principles were before the Union as three to one; you will be of free trade. We allude here to the Customs' by the Union as one to four." Thus he founded their Regulation Act, and to the determination of hold- hopes of political power on the extinction of phy inrg the United States fast bound by the error corn- skid consequence, and made the inanity of their mitted by their Government in neglecting to em- body, and the nonentity of their country, the pillars brace the liberal offer of England to admit them, of their future ambition. The Minister, by his first upon certain easy conditions, to a free commercial plan, as detailed by his advocates, not only excluded intercourse with her West India possessions. These the Catholics from Parliament, but also deprived facts indicate clearly enough the constant unan imity Protestants of a slue representation in that assembly, which prevailed upon this subject in the Liverpool he struck off one half of the representatives of the Cabinet, in a Cabinet which has supplied not only counties, and preserved the proportion of the the model, but the principal materials of the pre- boroughs as two to one; thus dismissing for ever sent. Its members were agreed as to the duty of the question of Catholic Emancipation and Parlia listening to the doctrines of enlightened theory, nor memory Reform." The promises, or, as he terms did they less perfectly concur as to the still more them, the bribes, held out by Mr. Pitt—and, for imperative duty of correcting those doctrines by the obvious reasons, we prefer quotino the account of them lessons of experience. The Whigs and their ad- from Mr. Grattan's speech, for the question is not so herents perpetually by their artifices draw down much what Mr. Pitt said, as how he was understood upon themselves confusion and disgrace, and they —the bribes were-Ist, Perpetual security to the now by their unprincipled manoeuvres compel Protestant Church. 2d. Salaries to the Catholic us to revive the recollection of individual. conduct, Clergy. 3d. A communication of tithes. 4th. which for the honour of human nature We should Certain commercial benefits ! There is in all this otherwise have desired to bury in oblivion. Let us not wily no mention of Catholic Emancipation, then, since they have driven us to this course, con- but the whole speech of Mr. Grattan teems with trast the conduct of the Tories in regard to the sys- proofs that, according to his reading, Mr. Pitt meant tern of free trade, with that of some of the most no such thing. It is with this view that he ridi distinguished of the Whigs. We do not know that cities the notion of the Premier that the English ca it is the subject of boast, but the f ac t i s undeniable, pitalist would settle, with his family, in the midst of that the first advances made in this country towards those Irish Catholics, whom he did not think it safe the practical application of the principles of free to admit into Parliament. When the Resolutions of trade were made by the Tories, and under the im- the Irish Parliament respecting the Union came mediate guidance of a very eminent Tory—Mr. under discussion here, Mr. Pitt contented himself' Wallace. It is equally true, that nothing has vet with a passing allusion merely to the Catholic claims, been done in pursuance of those principles, but leaving them entirely to the wisdom of Parliament. with the sanction of an exclusively Tory Cabi- Mr. Grey (Earl Grey) who moved an amendment net. It is again equally true, that no Tory ever on the first resolution, which was lost by a majo attempted to gain a momentary popularity by rity of 263 to 30, contented himself with repeating stigmatizing those principles at a season when the sentiments of Mr. Foster, that the Catholic their efforts threatened commotion, arid when Question could be as easily settled in an Irish as in the doors of Parliament were besieged by s tory- an Imperial Parliament. In the next Session the ing multitudes suffering under the earliest o pera- question was more distinctly alluded to. The words boil of the system they had applauded. But of Lord Grenville, explaining the reason why he carat has been the conduct of the Whigs ? They and several of his colleagues had retired from the urged forward Mr. Wallace first, and afterwards Mr. Cabinet, are thus given in the debates :—" Imagin- Huskisson, by every inciternent that they could de- ing this measure alono(CatholicEmancipation) could vise and emPloY,t° Pursue thOsysteso of measures in be effectual if coming from . the executive govern question. But when the SPitalfields weavers in meat, we felt it our duty to propose it to those who their distress besieged the doors and obstructed the direct his Majesty's Councils. It was not deem- I avenue; to the Houses of Parliament, the best of ed eligible, and we were unable to prevail. Ac then's turned lukewarm in the cause—some of them cordingly, we tendered to his Majesty the employments,resiona ellm, i t and h ou our e s e h r a y s i c l7 e e s. en , , positively hostile to it. We need scarcely do more resigna tion than hint at what then occurred. The slightest hint graciously c i o o t u.s ur ly pleased es-' to dispense will hp sufficient to awa4e" the Most vivid and the When, however, it came to Mr. Pitt to explain, he most disgusting recollections of Whig conduct, mentioned, indeed, th e differences of his views and The greatest Whig merchant, and on e o f t h e great- those of the executive on th e C at holic Question, est Whig lawyers in the House of Commons, dis' but said there were other reasons for his resig tinctly took part with the malcontents. Tire former nation, which he did not c h oose to communicate. — was m ost unaccountably spared, but th e l atter it can- It plainly appears, inde e d, t h a t so far from Mr. Pitt's not easily b feentten,received from a Tory orator the being capable of ensuring success to the Catholic l ea d e r o f a Tory Ministry in that Hous e , so r nerci- Claims, he had not e ven secure d the co-operation of less a castigation, that it not merely 'eumbled—it his own colleagues to the measure, and all that he extinguished him. Never since that d a y has he ever did, or could pledge himself to, was, that he, as tilaoelto rear his head in t he House of Commons, Minister, would su pp ort t h e m, If then, Cortl and we are perasiodeo he never will.—Y e t this wallis, as he seems by his letter to do, gave any as person was so eminent a' that se he had been surance to the I r i s h C a tholics that their Claims long en c our aged to aspire to the aario g 4iguity o f r would be granted as a returns for their support of the being an enemy of the Earl of Eldon. It is only f Union, he must have misunderstood Mr. Pitt, or the necessary to add, that neither of these Persons were latter must. h ave p resum ed on his power farther than in arty way discountenanced' much l ess renounced he was entitled. We rather think that both Lord by their pasty, The contrast we suppose is suffi- Cornwallis and Mr. Pitt erred on the occasion ; that ciently striking; and, in co nclusion, we have only to the Lord Lieutenant understood the Premier to ask, which party any man f o_ vigorous intellect, any say more than he meant, and that the Premier said man of evens common sense , would Prefer as col- . more than he could perform. But let it be leagues - -those who would cheek his pursuit of a granted that Mr. Pitt alone waa to blame-- that he held out such hopes in the most posi tive and unexceptionable terms—to what does the admission amount ? That we are bound to fulfil those hopes ? By no means. Who authorized him to hold them out ? Parliament ? It has all along refused even to entertain the question. The King ? He was decidedly and conscientiously hos tile to it. The people of England ? They were and they are as one with the Parliament on the sub ject ; and we seek no better proof than their distrust (simply because they were supposed to be over friendly to that question) of the two last Ministries, which, in other respects, they were much attached to. In fact, it is not this Minister or that Minister —it is not this party or that party that forbids the passing of the Catholic Bill; it is the influential portion of the people of England—the landed and monied Aristocracy—the Clergy—the Yeomanry— all who lead or govern the sentiments of nations on questions of national importance. And until they shall change their minds, the Catholics must retrain contented where they are. —yew Times. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. MANSION-HOUSE.—Mr. L—, a respectable mer chant in the city of London, was apprehended upon a warrant, which was granted on the preceding day, upon the oath of the Hon. Win. Erskine Cochrane, brother of Lord Cochrane, that he (Mr. Cochrane) believed his life to be in danger from the violence of Mr. L—. A dispute had arisen between the complainant and de fendant upon the subject of the steam-vessel called the Irresistible, purchased some time since for the Greeks, and which, upon being put to the test as to the velocity of her motion, was found better qualified for going back than forward. This vessel, as she deserved, in the opinion of every body well-disposed towards the Greek cause, caught fire, and was burned down so much as not to be convertible into any thing calculated to advance the cause in which she was intended to be concerned, and it was determined to dis pose of her ruins to the highest bidder. Major the Hon. Mr. Cochrane had, we understand, the disposal of her, and Mr. L— became the purchaser. A misunderstanding, however, took place between Mr. Cochrane and Mr. L— upon the validity of the purchase, and things went, as will be seen, nearly to an extremity, if credit be given to the particulars of the charge. The complainant in accusing the defendant said, that it was not necessary to detail the origin of the charge. He begged to be understood as not being aware of any cause for the existence of animosity in the breast of Mr. L— to wards him individually. In every circumstance that oc curred between them, he (Mr. Cochrane) had acted in the most unimpeachable manner. Mr. L—, however, had entertained towards him a strong enmity, attributabl e , doubtless, to an imaginary and foundationless sense of wrong, and threatened to cane him in the Royal Exchange. He despised this menace in consequence of the alarming condition of the defendant's mind, but another threat had been used, and from its nature and the evident violence of the defendant's disposition, there were grounds for appre hending the result, and that the attack would be not open perhaps, but of such a description as could not well be re sisted. The Loon MAvoit asked what Mr. L— said about shooting ? Major Cochrane stated that the defendant talked of the use of pistols and balls, and said that lie was not afraid of officers, but would first cane, and then be willing to shoot him. The LORD MAYOR asked whether the Major heard the defendant use the threats himself ?—The Major (as we un derstood him) replied in the affirmative, but he had wit nesses who would put the facts beyond all dispute. The Major then called Mr. Hodgson, who, before he said a word on the subject of the charge, told the Lord Mayor that he had had a serious misunderstanding of a personal nature himself with Mr. L--. He then stated, that he was in Mr. L—'s counting-house, and beard him say that if Major Cochrane was there, he should like to shoot at him across the desk. Mr. James M'Pherson had called at Mr. L—'s on Mon day, who said, in the course of some conversation, that he would go on 'Change and cane Major Cochrane, or if the Major would give him an opportunity and fight him with pistols, be (Mr. L—) would fight him, and blow his brains out. The LORD MAroa.—There is enough to justify me in demanding bail; two in 1001. each, and himself in 5001. Will that satisfy you Major Cochrane. Major Cochrane, who supposed that his antagonist was only to be bound himself in the sum of 1001., said that Mr. L— had always stated himself to be a man of large pro perty, and that of course 100/. would be nothing to such a person in impeding the prosecution of his vengeance. Mr. Davis denied that the life of the complainant had been threatened by Mr. L—. The defendant was then bound over in the above-men. tinned sum, and the parties retired. MARLBOROUGH-S 7 BEET. —About a fortnight ago Miss Benyon, a young lady residing in Grosvenor-square, was defrauded of a valuable gold watch, by a man well known as a notorious writer of begging letters. He had called at Miss Benyon's house, and left a small parcel, containing a peti tion fin- that lady's perusal, saying that he would call again in the course of the same day for an answer, and to have the parcel back. Unluckily Miss Benyon had given direc tions that Mr. Earnshaw, her watchmaker, should send on that very day for a watch, belonging to her sister, Lady Middleton, which her Ladyship had left with Miss Benyon to get repaired ; and, in order to have the watch ready to be delivered to Mr. Earnshaw when he should send, Miss Benyon made it up in a small parcel, and placed it on the table by the side of the begging parcel, which was waiting for its owner to call. In the course of the day the man returned as he had,promised, and the servants having in formed Miss Benyon that a man waited below for a parcel, that lady, supposing that it was some one from Mr. Earn shaw, carried the watch parcel herself down stairs, and ob set wing to the man, whom she had never seen before, that ske presumed he came from Mr. Earnshaw for the watch, she handed to him the parcel containing it, desirin g him to get it done as soon as possib l e . Th e man said not a syllable in reply, but bowing assent to what Miss Benyon said, took the watch, and walked away with it. Mr. Earn shaw's man having soon after called, the fraud was then discovered; but no trace could be found either of him or the watch until Monday last, when Scofield, one of the officers of this establishment, got hold of the duplicate, upon which he learned the watch had been pledged at the shop of Mr. Brown, a pawnbroker in Gray's-inn-lane, for seven guineas ; and from the description given by Air. Brown's shopman of the person who pledged it, there is no doubt but it was the man himself. Yesterday Mr. Brown and his shopman attended before Mr. DYER, and produced the watch, when Scofield complained that Mr. Brown's shopman gave him every possible obstruction when he went to look at the watch, until, at last, Scofield quitted the shop, declaring his determination to procure a search-war rant, when the shopman called him back, and with much reluctance did show him the watch. Mr. Brown himself was not at home at the time. Mr. DYER observed, that the conduct of this shopman Was highly censurable ; and he was glad that Mr. Brown had not sanctioned such e xtreme impropriety. He then ordered the case to stand over until Saturday, when he di rected that Mr. Brown and the shopman should again at tend and produce the watch, and when it is expected that the man will be in custody. MARYLEBONE. —Joanna Murphy, a young Irish widow, and Mary Linch, her servant, were charged with assaulting and obstructing Lawrence Isaac Nathan, a sheriff's officer, and Thomas Ward, his assistant, in the exe cution of their duty. Mr. Nathan stated, that having a warrant under the Sheriff of Middlesex to execute upon the person of Captain William Wallace Dunlop, he and Ward proceeded on Tuesday night to one of the Moscow cottages in Bayswater, of which Mrs. Murphy says she is the occup ier, for that purpose. They entered the gar d e n gate, and g ave a sin gle knock at the doo r , " Wh o i s there?" said s ome f emale, and the officer made no answer. Presen tl y the defen dant Linch carefully o p ene d th e d oor to the extent o f two or three entrance.inches. ArsThero. mfficuerprsiy iintreordieudc, Thieves, murder, thieves," a thick st i ck to prevent her from agai n s h u t t i ng it, and endea v o ure d to force an The Capt a i n ca ll e d ou t f o r a hatchet , a carving, knif e , and " a poker, swearing, " So help me i G—d, the fi rst man who enters I'll Cl eave his skull, even f I am hanged at Tyburn afterwards." " It's of no use to make resistance, Captain," said the officer's 'assistant, "we must havo you." 4 , N e ver from this house alive," r eplied the Captain , -aPtain ; " I have a carving knife, it's jol!y good one, don't you hear it?"' at the same time rubb in g it against something as if to s harpen it—'' and the first man who lays hi s h an d upon m e it shal l go through him,' The officers saw M Lunch hatchet Murphy P i . it a hatchet and a poker into the ha n d s o f th e Captain : inch threw water upon them, and afterwards the lady and her servant came out of the house, drove, or r ather dragged the o fficers from the place, and defeated their purpose. The charge was not denied. Mr. RAWLINSON said it was• of a very serious nature, and ordered the defendants to find bail. Two privates in the 'second battalion of Coldstream Guards, were charged with highway robbery. Ann Wearthy, a nurse in the service of Mr. Lorraine, at No. 7, Store-street, Bedford-square, stated that betifie six and seven o'clock, on Tuesday evening, she asked th e prisoners, who were standing in Oxford-street, the way t° Baker-street. They directed her down Orchard-stree t, and, in three or four minutes afterwards, followed her. pushed her down, and took from under her arm a bundle of linen-drapery, covered with paper, and tied up i n a 100 handkerchief. She followed one of them into Portman' street barracks without losing sight of him, and sw ore to th e other's identity, who was afterwards apprehended, h e. ' above cause she observed his features in Oxford-street , ' They were sent to Newgate for trial. TOWN-HALL, SOUTHWARK.—A young wom 3° was summoned for wounding James Ford, a lad of 18 ' with a poker. The defendant lived a short time since a fellow-servd with the complainant, and became so enamoured o f hitt , ' that on his quitting that service she followed him to next place, and annoyed him to that degr ee w ith h er ito' portunities to marry her, that, to use the poor fellovi!, own expressions, " his life was near worried out of hitn• On Saturday she went again ; and on his telling her it d was useless to persist in such conduct, for which he b$ given no cause, she drew the red-hot poker from the fire and struck him twice across the face with it, and afterwar d : " jobbed" him in the mouth with the knob-end of it, 8 1 ' 1 cut his under-lip open, and was only restrained from sv tempting further injury by the interference of other per sons in the room. This meek candidate for wedded bliss being called 1 4 ° , 1 ' to explain, chose to remain silent, and w as h e ld t o bai" the Magistrate observing, that whosoever's lot it was to b 4 blessed with her was likely to have a comfortable title of it ; and at the closing of the office she was locked UP in default. • LAW INTELLIGENCE. VICE-CHANCELLOR'S COURT, JAN. 23. IN THE MATTER OF A WARD IN COURT. With respect to this case, mentioned by 1 ‘ SPENCE yesterday, The VICE-CHANCELLOR said he had perused t whole of the correspondence, and although it clear ori the face of the letters that Lieutenant ICI was aware of the lady being a ward of Court, I when he considered the circumstances of the c and especially the conduct of the aunt,—evitif even from her own letters—he did not think it v a case in which the Court was called upon to p' ceed with any thing like severity. He should the] fore order a reference to the Master, to inquire if 1 parties had been duly married, and then arrange I terms of the settlement. COURT OF COMMON PLEAS, JAN. 23. 1)0E, ON THE DEMISE OF COOK, V. THE MAYOR AND 0 GESSES Or STAFFORD. Mr. Sergeant TADDY, towards the close of the term, moved for a rule to show cause why the 1A which had been filed in this case should not be . 4e aside, and why the defendants, who were certain P 6 sons calling themselves the mayor and burgesses Stafford, should not giv e secur i ty f or costs. Court did not then decide the motion, and th Learned Sergeant this day renewed it upon the still'` affidavits as on the former occasion, statin g that tl ) body corporate having been dissolved, an a pplicat o l was made to the Crown for a new charter, whit was granted, and sent down to Stafford. At a tne e „ : ing of . the inhabitants, however, the c h ar t er was r . jetted ; so that, in fact, no such body as a mayors burgesses was in existence.—Rule granted. CORONER'S INQUEST. On Tuesday an inquisition was taken at the sit! of the Rising Sun, Charles-street, Grosvenor-squa d ; on the body of Elizabeth Sabatina, aged 44 years. Elizabeth Chalker, of Earl-street, Kensiugt6; was passing through Hyde-park on Monday TO P ing, about eight o'clock, yhen she saw the decesi F e ' in the Serpentine River, about two yards from south bank. Witness called to a gentleman Nc'' was in sight, and requested him to assist i n gettil'; the unfortunate creature out of the water. He 13 ', cordingly went to the bank and held out his al l brella, that the deceased, who was alive, might la hold of it, but she was too much exhausted to herself. She was afterwards removed to the ' I tirmary, where she died a few hours after her 04 mission. Giovanni Sabatina, the husband of the deeeasek stated that his unhappy wife had been, for 5 0 „ months past, in a very low desponding way. W ness had been married to her about seven yeif Witness had lately been in business at No. 19, ‘ encester-place, Fitzroy-square, but failed ; this seo ed to prey much upon her mind. On Satur# night last she left the house, and witness did not 54 her again alive. Benjamin Schofield,' an officer of Marlboro 4 street, on Lady-day last, f oun d t h e d ecease d an d husband in his shop and parlour without his sal' Lion. They appeared in the utmost destitution, 011 ' did not appear to have sufficient to keep body 0 ,; soul together. Witness occasionally assisted the 0 , ceased, who appeared in a miserable state of beaky to add to which, her husband's conduct to her vel most brutal. The unfortunate woman would lie 1 `: hours together on the floor and groan. T o w itne knowledge, the deceased went without nourishing` for days together. Mr. George Richards, surgeon, of MOunt-str Infirmary, saw the deceased on her admission. In answer to a question.from a Juror, the w itne said the death was not caused by drowning. The Jury said that it was a very singular case, they would adjourn for the body to be opened. Adjourned accordingly till Thursday. MARRIED. At Raddery House, Ross-shire, on the 9th current)l the Rev. Alexander Wood of Rosernarkie,Geor ge F a lco' . Mackenzie, Esq. of Allangrange, to Isabella, eldest daugh! of James the Fowler,23d instant, Esq byofthe Raddery.Rev.C. R. Pritchett, TV , H a rrison Burder, M.D., of Bru nsw i c k- square , L on don, , Elizabeth, youngest daught er o f th e l a t e Willi am iSurel l On Esq., of Islington. At St. Maryl e b one, Ch arles J ean M ar i e F e li x d e va lette, Marque ss d e l a Valette, to M ar i a G arrow, youn g daughter of th e l ate D aniel B i r k ett , E sq . o f Isleworth. , At Llandill o , C armartheus hi re , L e y son O rton Les o Esq., eld es t son of the Rev. I srae l L ew i s , Vi car o f 1.0 Ashton, S omerset , Gamins, to Catherine Gans , daught er of late J o h n H ughes, E sq ,of Tregib, Carmartheiashire. , At Trevethen, Monmouthshire, Mr. Gordon. jun.. Death Abbey, Glamorgan, to Miss Smith, daughter of Ilv R. Smith, coal and mine agent of the Clydach Works. , b e a s t - ii ste r Noble,- a .barrister-at-law, Esq, of , _ 2 1 On the 16th instant, at Lancaster, James Booth, PA r i law, to Jane, t l9. ....ancaster.i f . f o i a f u o. T h o t r e r r i Torrington-square, theo n - s ? a li t : r (j, a m JI DIED. of Mountgerald. Mackenzie i toP I6th instant, at Camb r id ge , M r. De i go - On the On the 14 t h instant, at Mountgerald, Ross -shire, I ‘ 4° bookseller, aged SO. rW sq t, h.o i 'u n se the in cOu n t y of Cun lv. On the 22d instant, at her housee-in Queen Ann-std Lucy Margaret Wheatly, eldest and surviving daughtel t y' cou nty of Kent. 91. 1 i it a di :et instant, Wheatley , l T ie r a l ua e g y t h,, his f 0 o E of . Lesney-house in short illness, in the prime of life, John, the• third solL Leicester, afts r : land, sincerely regretted by all who knew him. ,1 At Brighton, aged 19, Edward Stamp, the son of v' bert West, Esq. On the ISth instant, at his house, Jamaica-street, C!,; , ) mercial-road, Mr. Alexander 'Mitchell, see., in the ''' t i li sa e O a In a :h i :e V :l b l year of his age. . Frederick Forbes, of Christ Church, Oxford, yotili f r ion of John of Glouceste r -pl a ce, f 'Man-square. - / 4- V ~ V S PRINTED and PUBLISHED by M. YOUNG, at It/ SUN OFFIcE, No. 112, Strand. 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St sit; Ale Meier R, and Ca. G Blackbu Brighton : Elton, Bail —Leiceetei Mews. Sn Smith ant am' C o . ; and co._ Scotland the Bank W. Forbes Glasg ow Glasgow Branches o the British Co• ; Sir and G o . ; of the Proi A Sub-1 sting o f t E. J. Littl Lord Llow, Hon. G. ) Earl G em Lord Alori Hon• W s S. Ria 4. Baring To w h o ed Monuro Lord How T c ,„„.. • T 1 WEST 'CHANG] , °Seers tietneu pr, of th e GI of tleir A Belts, Pia /*awed * - Waelt.han Mule and of Trave AN A 5 with t h e / clim a t e , Artid ee , abroad; • . Annie tsi BIRTHS. On the 23d instant, in Upper Woburn-place, Mrs. H. King, of a son. At Huntroyde, Lancashire, the lady of Le Gendre cholas £tarkie, M.P., of a son. Of twin sons, the lady of Samuel Minshull, E sq . o f garet-street. BIRTH E XTRAORDINARY.—On the 13th instant, early on the following morning , the wife of H enr y Ctl liffe, of Ra w t ensta ll , i n Rosse ndale, Lancashire, a j o ura! man sizer, was safely delivered of three male and two male children. They were all perfectly formed, a nd lived about ten minutes after its birth. • The mother doing well. .."