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O WII I to be : (I 1° 11 ; 1114- ,t pro rs 1113 L r th eir 0 1, •,)e(I• .. n ec° 'r dov e( ond et iool Ilse 116 icu lirS ' OW) ir jo3' • ce liog irceo `.'r hich the ilonse had just 'beard. lit 'had only r i ll " to , a tid his hiiinble testimony to the steady ( i i i ntin n u. able • and Inyal cOntlnct oniftarialy held by ..! Roman t atliolicS.`\, With respect to Their pe tition, it was Worded in a manner at Once simple find modest. Yet manly- and spirited. It did not en ter into an enumeration of their, grievances, House it, --'s, petitioners we're convinced that the _ was well acquainted with theth•— it did intit deal in profeetioes of loyalty, for the otitionets conceived that the House Vr3S Itlfficiently inform e d on that point. But it tilsted that the m House 11 °t , in it s wisdo and inStice, would the them any [(Alger to remain uniter the trievances which preLtell so heavily upon them. , Dr. Pitieezmone called u p on the House to look at the Wend t , retognitp Signatures attached to the petition. It arnotig them names illustrious in the annals of the country; name's i tniked op with t he Most glorious periuda of our hi - story, and re calling those acts and deeds in Ovate and war, I , l ticli h a d raised so high the honour and cha racter th e emp i re ; names of person., who, thou,o precluded from bowing the . public ex -I‘l.,tulde Of thei r ancestors, emoilated them in private Irtues • Well then might the Noble Lord re rt,,,, e nt end th e petiti on to • the most. serious atten i'all of t h e House, cud ;t 'night not be presump ac'us i ll him to invite Hon. Members; before they th e on the queitian Nell, to re-perose carefully the hisiory of the times •which•had 'given birth to je restrictious on.th-e Catholics, and the pectilii r ,trcunistances on whicli.those rest fictions, were tiattiniled. If those Ciecumstantes Were fnond no l'itgerto exist, then Might the Hoitse 'safely come e a the irresistible conclusion that the cause having ttl e • as ed, the effect should.cease also. Toe present . st: : lll eut was most propitious for the settlement of ec, unPoet ant a question ;. and it vrohld well midste- ef n l Nor Parliaments, assembled in the , th',• e ce• to replace within the pale of the Con ai n Al 'un that portion -of-- Brivisii subjects who .l b t -a e *ere still excluded b . and Whose loyalty likr ti i t a i t 'ed them to be entitled to all the rights an ,plege s of Englishmen. w., he Petition having been brought up and read, -a ih,, a l - motion that it lie on the table, N. i r, W • SMITH rose, not to oppose the motion, allot ti c ‘vished not only that the Petition should the fi i it e 'l to lie on the table, and to meet with _ th. l es t attention, but that its prayer should be eri s ai e Y gran ted ; but he rose to correct a slight l V st alte into which the Honourable and Learned t e l: ie ,u, 'au had•fallen. lie had stated that the lit,; l l 'es *ere the only sect excluded from all the test o f the Constitution. This was not cor te:t i all other • Dissenters were subjected to t h e b. 10 n t ,,,, 1111 and abjuration act, and to religioni o e rI P anti pnliti'cal disqualification. There wasseat I li !, this difference, ‘a d . ir. that they might have a 'Nu,' t i muse, but they could not hold even . the t a t „ t offices ; for the Indemnity Act did no V e r e e s :i l t then) an y more than the Catholics. The "h ii:1! then) ihad his best w ishes, . for it stood t ilt iv grntinds of reason, Justice, and liberalny; that 1 1 1 11 °I)ed, when its prayer had been grante d , Ni e l . e other Dissenters would obtain the same TI, %lee Petition was then ordered to lie on the ' alit( to be printed. • • lilt s BALLOT DEFAULTERS. _ avllne n' er jeant-at-Arms appeared at the 8ar, ,.. and 4-,01:,;cell, that he - had taken William I ilney aae ) l. l ale Wellesley, Esq and Alarmailiike Law- Ill e b lzi o - t i• into custody, pursuant to the orders of a ( Ir r -, 45e . - --(A laugh.) Ar 1• . ' 4 Ntei NG moved, that Mr. Wellesley their f ees . —4l "son be discharged on payment of thei k, '''‘Are , A lt it, to, W4lt /NT INDIA.—THANKS TO THE MARQUEsS , air, c, OF HASTINGS, K. G. his notice, to pr op etiete G rose, pursuant to usual l atn as i t t l to the House to acknowledge in the us t ,Ltil 1 Fie services of the Marquess of Hastiogs, . I. e i L til e gallant O ffi cers under his command. ( 4 , sy -ed t h e H ouse i o understand, that the Vot e let ..sithicli lie call e d would be purely military, and liar n v ei degree of a political nature. He knew with an d inlitlich suspicion it was the habit of the 1-louse li tlia„'"e Conntry to approach the subject of that successes and conquests. He knew 1 4 ,.. r tirigin was generally ascribed to the irregti- 1 i tte 4 o all : iii ° ll of the Government which regulate( ' l tti - . 4 , 46 Of India, and that the wars in which our uee la ,:•ete successful were always thought to have pres ent -nlittivoked. But he was satisfied, b e l ent that on the th ~ neeasion, the case of this country could Le e : a " as clear as the prowess of its armies had at tll,- e°llsPicuotti. At the same time, in looking 1101 due immense extent of a country, where, from se' e , e , ra of a, mere factory, we had become sove ittl7s uf a mighty empire—in considering t hat i ibil e e s rrn °rY extended one million of geographic Ur e d' a ; , 1 " 1 its population amounted to one bun . - to te tutilious, and that one-third of that tern - tor and two-fifths of that population were under li es aut hority ; that another fourth of the territo ' sh e i tt tni anoth er fif t h o f th e population were in co n . 4 , ll ds of British Allies, and that the remainder phis tit the Independent Powers of India, the sa,,hher mi g h t well think that we had gained hten an asc endancy by a su ccess i on o f encroach tott;lB' Yet since the Government of thos e of t t ties bad b een placed under the controul Might Parliam ent, the char ac t er o f this country -' h t hti e completely cleared from such in 1 ...) ni eotatts• At no period of our history had the f s u e , 3 and Acts of Parliament been made more ti, ifully the grounds of the instructions sent to it,.'l.e Governinetit of India than when the Mar t"iess of Hastings had accepted the post which be U l f din ( bat country. It might be in the memory n_ t:h t i l i s e p p r e e i s . s e o u n t O w ffi li c o e n : he (Mr. C.) had succeeded f l ., 0 11 41 ; l e e aot fedntilopdoenrattilia)en that the principles uniformly (atvlefrontibneeanL(n)fcej.nduiaiewielar,ei xi . e l civr. ed that course, and added his strong recom -10 rielation to those which he had found recorded ' )l, _ that at the commencement of the late cam cloign, the hands of The Indian Government were tnpletely tied on all • • ' uenee of the case should sudden( Points, unless a very urgent in con 4 Y arise. Such a case bad arisen Pindarsreei predatory invasions of The he known s i a power, the nature of which would ~. . rom the papers on the table, and which, imilgit corisistin regular and ir gof only thirty or forty thousand re olar h,,,d ed ar _, K horse, the refuse of all dis ii.i., "nes. bound by no moral or religions 0)- 11 1 101 a, w ile ___ . "PaDle of receirittg constaut ac .l) t eessio‘ils, and iniapable of eqe . riencing a bi - kich from regular warfare. The existence of Inch a l'oiver might not have justified an' enterprise un dertaken against them at the hazard of stirring up the'elements of disaffected Stales ; but it Was a succession of positive aggressions and oetiages, Such :A no Government Could tolerate- without di vesting itself of the dotieso:tf Goveritment, which had called na to the held. He then described the atrocities which the PindarreeS had - committed in their various invasions of the Bengal and Madras territories. Rapine, rape, murder, and conflagra tion, were not their accidental atteodants, but their usual weapons, their regular warfare, and the con comitanta of all their temporary successes. There were not wanting installers of villages, where the whole of the 'female parts of the popida tio'O had precipitated themselves into wells, to avoid the sufferings which they anticipated—. l nor of parents and husbands . who had stir rounded the dwellings of their families, and pe rished with them, to avoid a more horrible fate. If it were not- a shame to mix considerations of juiciest with such instances of calamity, he might add, that the results of those,iiivasions could not have cost the country less''thau one million' ster hog. It was upon these - grounds that the Go vernmeht of - India had determined to act, when dispatches from home untied its hands, and left it at full liberty to adorif the.rneasures necessary to maintain the dignity of'dießritish character and power, and repress so EiaoC,inda an enemy.-- But the Governor-General foresaw that, however insulated the enterprise might appear, its conse quences ruig,lit open an' extensive sphere of - ope-• rations The Pindarrees had; served in the armies, of the greatest Indian powers, and it was not clear that they might' not derive assistance from their ancient masters. The foresight, decision, and extensive preparations of the Marquess of Hastings surmounted all those perils. However he might distrust Scholia and Holkar, he had no reason to doubt the fidelity of' the Peishwa and the Rajah of Nagporei. for he' had lately con cluded Treaties settling all existing differences with those two Powers. Yet, though deceived in his expectations, arid treacherously attacked by those Princes, his preparations proved equal, not only to repel the additional weight thus thrown into the scale, and to drive theM from their capitals, and the Peishwa from his throne, to replace the rightful Sovereign, but to suppress the enemy against whom he bad taken up arms; to overawe Scholia so completely as to compress him into a Treaty, and to 'educe Atneer Khan to sudden submission, by the disbanding of his'army and the surrender of his artillery. Holkatalone remained, with whom a Treaty was on the eve of conclusion, when one of his refractory chief tains seized the Regent and put her to death.— The first intimation of this change had been an attack on the outposts of our army ; but. the battle of Maypore, in which Sir T. Hisloti and Sir John Malcolm had displayed talents and bra very which would live in the memory of those who had witnessed them, as long as there should be a British name or a British flag in India--that decisive battle, in which, the enemy had been com pletely defeated, had produced an order from Hol kar for the immediate surrender of the whole of his territory to the right of the Nerbudda. He should not attempt to describe all the brilliant actions which bad been performed ; they were too numerous. But in speaking of the valour of-our troops, be would state, that o u t of the 90,000 men employed, only 10,000 were British. The. remainder were natives, trained, indeed, and dis cipliued by British Officers, but from their °be., thence to their commatiders„ their equality of courage, activity, and perseverance, with British soldiers, showing, not only of what skill they were capable, but proving the sincerity of their attachment to the British Power. Many of those serving in the Bombay army were subjects of the Peishwa, who left no means untried to shake their fidelity before he commenced hostilities; but, though their friends and families were. In his hands, and, in some instances, experienced the effects of his vengeance, they remained uncor ruptible, and even carried to their officers the proofs of the temptations held out to them,— He then mentioued (lie case of Captain Stanton, who, with a force of 900 or 1000 men, all na tives, ' with the exception of the artillery, bad resisted, during a whole day, the whole of the Mahratta army, the cavalry of which alone amounted to 20,000 men. Not only had he main tained his position, but he had effected his retreat in the night, and carried off all his wounded.— He instanced similar acts of skill and bravery on the part of Colonel Thomas Moore and Brigadier General Smith. lie expressed the in tention of Government not to allow any further increase of dominion, but to stand where our In dian Empire now stood. Before the late war we had a frontier of 2000 miles to defend. It was now notch advanced, but at the same time it was narrowed to 700 miles. The Governor-General had not been more fortunate in extending the ,ter ritories and protecting the sway of Great Britain, than in mitigating the evils of war, and intro ducing the arts of peace, and rendering our em pire stable, by founding it on the .habits and in stitwions of the people, whenever those were not inconsistent with justice. There was another point to which he had to call the attention of the House, One of the first results of the victory over Holkar bad been the obtaining front him an order for the surrender of all his forts to the south of the Nerbudda. Sir TiloßVill Bishop was the bearer of that order, and on serving it on the Governor of Telnier had occurred that event which was partly detailed in the papers before the HOME. He did not mean to say that either his Majesty's Government or the East India Company were entirely satisfied with the information which had yet been received. lostructiona had conse quently been sent to the Indian Government to institute the deepest inquiry into the.snhject.— Every inference, however, was hitherto in favour of Sir T. 1-lislop : first, from the character, of a British Officer ; secondly, tram the character of that Officer himself, who was' constituted of all the qualities repo t , most to an u nnecessary execu tion. Two distinct approbations of his conduct had also been received from the Marquess of Hast ings, conveyed in the most unqiialified terms.— Lord Hastings could have had no motive for slurring over such a transaction, and be knew too . . Well hii as several instances bitcl proVid doting the course Of the campaigki, to withhold blame when blaiiie was (Inc. He should he, wrong •if he attemped, Withoin further detail, to state the amount of the justification,; but he should say, that he did not think it complete. But many . chasms had occurred in the transmission of intel ligeOte, and accounts of actions had sometimes been received a year and an - half aft'er they had been fought. Hit was asked why they, were pub lished in the Gaiette, he should 'state that it was necessary they should appear there; to enable the'Offieers who might have distinguished them selves to receive any of the honours to which their skill or bravery might have en titled them. He looked confidently for the ar rival of fresh details respecting the transaction of Talnier, but it would be unjust, on account of their delay, to exclude Sir T. Hislop from the hO hours bestowed for the victory of Maypore. should not think it unreasonable to cord on the Journals—, hat the House suspended her judg Ment respecting that part of Sir ThoMas•3 con duct. At the same time it would be an unncees sary to incorporate it with the vote it self. Unnecessary, because a separate resolution of the House would loiVe the desired effect ; and harsh, because the' vote i,t/Mild be read in frotit of every Regiment in India, and though that might not be too severe a Vengeance, the act Was not justified, what would, be the situation of that Officer if he had been unjustly arraigned, and such a charge was uttered before an audience which knew•it to be unfounded ? lie should think . it ungracious in..him to move such_ a Resolution as he had suggested ; but if it came from any Ho nourable Member, he should not oppose it. He then moved--" That the Thanks of the House be givento the Marquess of Hastings, (iovernor , General of India; &c. for his promptitade and vi gour, displayed in the overthrow and suppression Of the Pindarrees, and his skill, foresight, and• judgment, manifested in his arrangements and operations against the Mahratta Confederacy, in a campaign marked by a series of successes and victories highly hOnourableto the British Arms." Lord MOR NMI. thought the conduct of the Marquess of Hastings entitled to the most unqua lified approbation, and bestowed the highest praise on the whole plan of the campaign, and on 'he conduct of all the Officers of the Indian army. On the policy of the war he declined speaking at pre• sent, and be would also reserve.theexpression of his opinion on the very extensive system of alliance which had been adopted, and on several other points, tilt a figure occasion. - The execu tion of the Killedar of 'rainier was at esent un explained.. Unless he could be regarded as a rebel, he knew not 'on what ground his execution could be justified, as he should have expected that he would not be held amenable to us, but that he. should rather have been sent before one of Holkar's tribunals. He spoke with pain on this subject, as be agreed with all that had been said in praise of the military services of Sir Thomas Hislop; but these, .however great, ought not to deter the House from discharging its fluty,-by inquiring into a transaction so extraordinary. He should, therefore, when the proper time came, move a Resolotion, declaring , "'That this House, in giving their thanks to Lieutenant-General Sir Thomas Hislop for his military services, does not intend thereby to give any opinion on the execution of the Killedar of Talnier, respecting which this House is not yet in possession of satisfactory in formation.'' Ile thought it a '&4 to that part of the army to which they were about to vote their thanks, to the army generally, and above all, to the population of our Indian empire, to come to a vote like that which he had suggested. We owed it not only to India, but to the world at large, to uphold those principles of justice and honour which we had hitherto maintained, and to guard against the slightest reproach or suspicion being attached to our conduct. Mr. HOWORTH eulogized the intelligible and excellent speech of the Right Hon. Gentleman,, and concurred in the vote of thanks to the Mar quess of Hato ings,for the manner in which he had conducted the. war to a triumphant conclusion ; but he thought the vote ought not to pass the House without some notice being taken of the violation of the law which had taken place in the extension: of our Indian territory. General Gaosvariou offered a few remarks on some of the ►operations of the campaign, and in particular alluded to the movement on Poonah• Fie remarked of the 65th regiment, that it had this peculiarity attached to it, that three out of four of its Field officers, acting as Brigadier-Ge nerals, Brigadier-Gen. Smith, Brigadier-General Milne, and Brigadier-Gen. Fitzsimmons, were ail acting in the Deccan. Sir R. Wu.sos lamented the extension of our Indian Empire. He considered the Marquess of Hastings to be in every respect entitled to pre eminent distinction, and Aotild vote for the mo tion : he, however, thought the Resolution an nounced by the Noble Lord necessary to sustain the character of that House. Sir J. MACKINTOSH complimented in the warm , , est terms the clear, candid, and elegant narrative of the Right Hon. Gentleman. He fully eon, curred with the vote of thanks to Lord Hastings, and eulogized the conduct of Sir J. Malcom, Mr. Elphinstone,- and Captain Staunton. For Sir 'l'. Hislop 'would allow the presumptions in his favour suggested by his own character and the approbation of the Governor-General, and trust ed and believed he would be able to explain the justice of that act which was now called in ques tion, but on this point explanation was necessary, Sir W. BURROUGHS concurred with the motion, and maintained the justice and policy of the war were as clear us the events of it had been splen did, or be, for one, would not have thanked the Noble Marquess for all that had been achieved. The motors was then agreed to, as were vote , of thanks •to the Brigadier-Generals, Officers, Non-commissioned Officers, and Privates of the Indian Ar.my, and the Speaker .was directed tu notify the same in the usual way to the Marquess of Hastings. Lord MORPETH then moved the. Resolution which be had previously announced. Mr.FORLIE3 thought an inquiry into the Con duct of Sir T. Hislop wils absolutely necessary.— I - Ie had in his possession a letter, which Sir 'l'. llislop had written to a friend at :Madras, and which he vroithl read, but which was so far from justifying bis conduct, that— Mr. .I?Aat(Fitif spoke to order, and appealed to the feelings of the individual if it would be well to raise a prejudice, under present circumstances, against an absent individual. Mr. FORBES desisted, but said be bad thought it 'right to explain the motives which governed his vcift.—The Resolution was then agreed to. CONINIISSIbNERS OF BANKRUPTS. Mr. WaoviEstAY, after a number of prefatory observations, in which he dwelt on the extreme inconvenience to which the Commissioners of Bankrupts were exposed in Guildhall, and the ex pediency of thefr 'removal, pointing out Holborn as a good scite for the erection of a building for tl►e purpose, moved that a Select Committee he ap pointed to consider of a proper piece of ground for erecting suitable buildings for holding tl►e public and private meetings.Of Commissioners of Bank rupts, and for the transaction of all business in Bankruptcy, and that they report their opinion thereo►► to the House. Mr. JOHN SMITH opposed the motion, contend ing , hat the Sittings of the Commissioners ought not to be removed out of London. If Guildhall, were inconvenient, there was a scite adjoining which might be obtained. He moved the pre vions question. Mr:Alderman WOOD also strongly objected to thcretnoval of the'Meetings oot of the City. Alrr Alderman 'WAITIIMAN recommended the t'e-visioriqif the Whole system. He could see t'. reasOn why there-should be seventy-two Commis sionets for Bankrupt - business, while one Com missioner transacbed all that of Insolvency. He opposed the retnoval. Mr. COURTENAY defended the motion. The only object which his I-lon. and Learned Friend had in view was, that the business should be in vestigated in a. Committee. After a tew words against the motion fror Mr. Wilson, Mr. Ellis, Mr. Marryat, and Mr. Harvey, and a short reply from Mr. Wrotte s ley, the Houhet divided—For the motion, 62—Against it, 27. J. 74' roll against ruin the La' WesthaLtir It was► p. ;ravated de ion of the „ e w WO" [leer: under w as laid vvicht prayer postponed nn the 1601 zu the toy' onntry" )1) (0 06 vni t" t, the ind hint n obli? Irian or in. M r ' 'led th e 10*t f prai 44l 0801 10 ed 11 ' 34 , r ong c r to bil e no n)e -. whole S COI"- resUIC fie C'` l ' pplica s ; P": y; 10.!‘ 'fbey OtIC 01;i 1116 , io i " fitietitY w bich I'4 (I the"' ff fro' • G oo . toil ". Ise INSOLVENT DEBTORS. Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN, understanding that pis motion would not be opposed, would simply move for a return of the names of Agents in the Insolvent Debtors' Court, whether regular Actor- Hies, and whether any, and what number of them had taken the benefit of the Insolvent Act the account of fees received for their appointment, &c.—Ordered. NIOCK AUCTIONS. Mr. NITAITHmAtet moved fir an account of lb* number of Auction Licences, and the Duties recrived thereon, front the sth of January, 1812, to the sth of January, 1819. His ob ject, be stated, was to ascertain whether the revenue was benefited by the system. The traders, he thought, were ra►her hardly dealt with ; the subject had been brought torward upwards of five years ago, yet no remedy was afforded. It was agreat grievance, that by those fictitious sales, frauds were committed on the public, the fair dealer, and the revenue. Even if they could not persuade the Chancellor of the Exchequer to agree to the Bill, he still hoped they would bring it forward to set the anxiety of the traders at rest. The CHANCELLOR Of the EXCHEQUER said, that the remedies hitherto i)roposed for the evil were not only calculated to hurt the Revenue, but be trayed a spirit of monopoly for which he Was un willing to make himself responsible. It a remedy free from those objections was proposed, he would give it his support. Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN hoped the Right Hon. Gentleman would find the Bill now pre paring of a nature to which he could agree. ROYAL HOVSEHOLD BILL. The Royal Household 13111 was read a second time, au,d ordered to be committed to-morrow. Sir A. Hops wished to know whether the Bill reduced the numbtr of Equerries ft OM six tO four? Lord CASTLEREAGH said, the opinion of the Committee being t hat the number of Equerries should not exceed four, Government, had acted on their suggestion. Whatever saving was made by this arrangement was to be paid over to the Civil List. It the object of the lion. Baronet was to overturn the decision of the C.►mmittee, the best way would be to proceed by Resolution. Sir A. Hone thought it was competent for him to move that the surplus should not be paid over to, the Civil List, till the salaries of six Equerries were discharged. _ After some discussion between Mr. Bankes, the Speaker, and Sir A. Hope, relative to the point of loan, Sir Alexander Hope gave .notice that he would move to-morrow that the Report of the Committee should be taken into consideration, with a view to substitute the number of six Equerries in the place of tour. The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at half-past eleven. LAW INTELLIGENCE. COURT OF CHANCERY. Yesterday mornin , z, at ten o'clock, notice was sent down to Lincoln's Inn, from the Lord Chan cellor's house i❑ Bedford-square, stating that his Lordship ►vould not sit that day, in consequence of cont i nue d indisposition. Judgment was ex pected to have been given in the case of Lady Emily Vane Tempest, and, in that of the Opera Ilouse. COURT OF KING'S BENCH, M'incii 4. FRENCH V GILES AND ANOTHER. The plaintiff, art Ironmonger, brought his action against the defendant, a Coach -master, to recover damages for an injury received by ' the breaking down of a carriage whiela he had hired it, August last.' The plaintiff had hired a harouche on the '2(l of August, to rake his family to • Chiselhurst, in Kent. On their return to • town the straps of the dickey broke, and the plaintiff was thrown off. His shoulder was dislo cated, his arm broken, and three ribs fractured. • A surgeon attended him several months, and he was not quite recovered when the action com menced. The accident was attributed solely to the rotten state of the leather straps. The Learned Judge held that persons letting out carriages were bound to see they were fit for use. —The Jury retired three hours, and on their re turn,f,ounda verdict for the plaintiff—DatuagesisOL