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qu.ss of Downshire. A witness was examined in. Taaffe's Divorce Bill.—Further consideration on Thursday se'n *tight. Mr. Bullock, from the Treasury, presented an Account of the Net Produce of Permanent Dit ties, which was ordered to he printed ; and Mr. Spicer, from Chelsea Hos,pital, an Account of Unclaimed Prize Money. Petitions were presented by Lord \Vodehouse, from Falmouth, praying a revisor of the Penal Code; by Lord Kenyon, from St. Mary-le-hone, against the Renewal of the Insolvent Debtors' Act ; and from St. Giles's-in-the-Fields, and St. George, Bloomsbury, against the Act for putting out Parish Apprentices ; by the Earl of Mulgrave, from Whitby, against (as was understood) any al teration in the Duty on Coals ; by the Earl of Aylesbury, front Marlborough, and the Earl of Dartmouth, from Staffordshire, against any alte ration in the Duty on Coals ; and by the Mar guess of Downshire, from Dublin, Belfast, and Londonderry, against the Window Tax. His Lordship, on presenting the first Petition, testi fied to the respectability of the signatures, —men tioned the evils that arose from the tax, in conse quence of the owners of houses crowding a num ber of persons into one house (to avoid paying ditty on houses with only one or two families), by which the liability to typhus fever was greatly increased for want of sufficient ventilation,—and stated, that he did not seek the total repeal at the present moment, but only a reduction every year, Which would no doubt produce very beneficial effects, and be duly appreciated by the people of Ireland.—All the Petitions were ordered to lie upon the table. The•Slntigglers' Apprehension Rewards Bill, and the Stearn Vessels"l'onnage Bill, were read a second time, and committed for to-morrow. The Plate Glass Company's Bill was read a se cond time, and committed for Thursday. Adjourned till To-morrow {this dliyi. HOUSE OF COMMONS. TA NI WORTH ELECTION. The House was closed till five o'clock, during the ballots for the Committees on the Tamtvot tit and Nottingham Election Petitions. Mr. LEY appeared at the bar with the rednced list of the • Committte chosen by ballot, to try the merits of theTamworth Election. The names were read as follows : M. Russell, Esq., Sir E. O'Brien, Bart., R. Magenis, Esq., lion. J. S. Cox, John Bent, Esq, Lord H. Howard, R. Shaw, .F.sq., J. Douglas, Esq., Lord Graves, R. 'W indh am, Esq., E. Denny, Esq., R. Elli4on, Esq., R. Price, Esq., Hon. T. Brand, Bight Hon. W. Husiiissou. The Committee was sworn in the usual form. BARNSTAPLE ELEcTiON. _ _ Lord CLIVE, from the Committee on the Petition against the Return for the B,rough of Barnstaple, reported that the Committee had declared, that Sir Massey Manasseh Lopez, Brim, was not duly elected to serve in Parliament for the said Bormigh ; and that F. M. Ommaney, Esq. was duly elected ; and that the last Election, so far as related to the return of the sald Sir Massey Manasseh Lopez, was void ; that the Petitffin was not frivolous or vexatious, and that the op position to the said Petition was not frivolous or vexatious. ',old CLIVE said, be was instructed to deliver a special Report, which he read at the Bar to the following effect : That it was the opinion of the Committee, that. Sim M. M. Lopez, Bart. has been guilty of hi ibety and treating, by his agents, at the Election for the Boroogh of Barnstaple, and that he was thereby iocapable of serving in Parlianment for sue' Election. Resolved also, That such a general system of bribery and corruption, prevailed at the last Election fur the said Borough, as to make it incumbent on the Committee to it to the serious consideration of the House to take such proceedim:s thereoo as in its wisdom it may think fit.— (Hear, hear, hear!) Lord CLIVE also stated, that he was directed by the Com mittee to live that the Minnt.es of Evidence taken before such Committee he presented to the House. • The motion having beets agreed to, Lord CLIVE presented the Minutes, which were ordered to be printed. Lord CLIVE then moved, that the Speaker do not issue his Warrant to the Clerk of the Crown for a new Writ. for a Borgess to serve in Pailiament for the Borough of Barn staple till this thiy seunil.7lo, that time may he given to tape such steps as the Himse, oo consideration of the case, m a y think proper.—Agreed to. Mr. LUSIIINGTON moved for new Writs for the Borough of Yarmouth (Isle of Wieht), in time room of Williaum Mount. and 1. Taylor, Esqrs. who had each accepted the Chiltern Hundreds. 4 •ir , 3 ‘ A 111 E N T. )S, MARCH 9. «.• Lord Chi T sat for the Lord Chancell. a. The Houser in Appeals. The Oaths 1 . ministered to his Royal Highness the Duke of Gloucester, and the Mar- PETITIONS. Petitions against the alteration of the Coal Duties were pre,ented from several parts of Staffordshire, by Mr. Little ton ; from the Woollen Manufacturers of Gloucestershire, by Sir W. Guise; from Ludlow, by Lord Clive ; from some Inhabitants of Cheshire, by Mr. Egerton ; and from Marlbo rough, hy Colonel Wodebouse. Petitions for a revision of the Criminal Law were pre sented from Falmouth, by Sir W. Lemon ; front Whitby, by Mr. S. Wortley ; and _from Woburn, by the Marquess of Tavistock. Sir W. STEWART presented a Petition from Strabane against the Irish ‘Vinflow Tax. Sir J. GRAHAM presented a Petition against the Insol ent DAtors' Law, from the Tradesmen and others of Mary j chone. Al r. MACDON 7 AiDlisresented t Petition from the Corpo tation of Hammertoe') in the City of Edinburgh, prayiug - fsur the revision' a the Burgh System in Scotland, a subject "(Well every man acquainted with that country would hoow to Ire one worthy of the consideration of .the House: He should nut tahe up the time of the House in observations on the quiestion at that time, especially as a notice of his Noble Friend (Lord A. Hain'lton) stood in the himit, for a tnotiou which ho haul been pre . 'vented by domestic Occurrences from bringing on at an earlier period. He however could not help rayitr,:, that the question Was one titian which any more im portant to the liberties of the subject had not been discussed since the Revolution. The Petition was laid on the table. Sir H. PARNELL presented a Petition from Queen's County against the Irish Excise Doty on Leather. A. Petition was presented from '.lewkeshory, against the re sewa! of the Insolvent Debtors' Act.—Oldered to lie on the table, as Was a Pelitii'm froni the Grand Jury of t h e County of Mayo, praying for a revision of the Irish Grand Jury Pre sentment Act. Mr. BENNET presented a Petition from the prisoners in the jail of Perth, con►plainin;g of the nature, conduct, and construction of that prison, in which he understood, that not ai Alice . two prisoners, tar small Menne debts, were cor►- fined in the same pace with a notoriously bad character, who stand charged with rourder.-11eferred to the Committee ap poiiiteil to consider the state of jails. A Petition was presented from Guildford, praying fiir the ItSeviaiou of the Criminal Law.—Ordered to lie on the table. NorriNGn ANI ELECTION. ..‘lr• LEY appeared at the liar with the followin4 reduced list of the 'Aleitilicrs chose* ballot to try the merits of (be Petition respecting the las retion for Nottinclunn : T. G. Esteourt, (G. Sinclair, .1. H. Holdswort 11, .1. Pearce, Lie L. V. Palk. Ci.as. Tennyson, Luke White, Hon. C. C. C. .telikiie.on, I). GiWert, F. Luttrell, Sir .1. Shelley, J. R. lion Ft. H. Packenhani, Sir G. Osborne, Lord Viscount Folkestone: pitivATE Tile SPE ‘R ER reminded the House, that Monday was the last d.) fixed fur recativivg I'Livate itnti that therefore, with a view to facilitate that, department of the business, he should, with the concurrence of the House, be ready to take the Chair both on Friday and Monday at half after three o'clock. _ The Nlembers were called over who had neglected to attend the ballots for Election Cuiaoiittees, both to-day and on Thursday last. Several Members, upon answering to their names, stated that•they had come to the !louse on the days which they appearel to he defaulters, but that they happened to come - to the door a few minutes after it was locLtd, and could not there fore obtain athnittance. The• SPEAKER observed, that a misunderstanding appear ed to exist own) this subject, because Nlembeis were called uf to attend in due time before the door was lucked, and that therefore it was not sndicient for any Nlember to say that he CAllle to the door a few winutes afterwards. Mr. C. W. WYNN said, that it was well to prevent such a mistake as that alluded to by the Chair from going abroad, for it teas certainly nut. a valid excuse for any Nlcinber that he came to attend the ballot a few minutes after the door was closed. He, indeed, re►uembered the case of a Member (Sir. Young), who, cou►ncg about five minutes after the door was closed upon a day appointed for ballot, exclaimed that he was at the door, hut that he could not g. tin. But this c;rctunstance did not serfe to justify the Honourable Ba ronet's absence, for by was committed to the custody of the Serjeaut-at-Arms, as a defaulter. • CATHOLIC QUESTION. Mr. GRATTAN rose to give notice be should, on the 22d of Apia next, submit to the House a motion relative to the pi.ditical situation and disabilities of his Majesty's subjects in Ireland, professing the Catholic religion. Mr. M. A. TAYLOR gave notice he should on Wednesday, the 17th instant, suo%e for an Account of all Sums of Money deposited in the hands of the Bank of England by the Ac countant-General, on account of suitors iu the Court of Chancery. GALWAY TOWN ELECTION. Mr. PEEL said, that as the Sheriff of the Town of Galway, whOse presence would he requisite before the Committee to try the Petitions with regard to the last Election fur Galway, in order to certify to the return, must necessarily attend the Assizes for Galway, which were fixed for the 26th instant, it would 1)5 inconeraicut to hare the Committee appointed on the ltfth, as at present ordered. Ile should, therefore, move the discharge of that Order, with a view to propose its post ponement, until the 4th of May. After a few words from the SPEAItER and Mr. C. W. WYNN, the Order was occordiriKly discharged, and the 4th of May was fixed for the balloting of a Committee to try the merits of the last Eltetion for Galway. INSOLVENT DEBTORS' ACT. Mr. BROUGHAM presented a Petition from the Merchants and Tradesmen of the City of Westminster against the Insol vent Debtors' Act. The Petition, he stated, had enumerated the various instances in which the present Act exposed the fair trader to the imposition of the artful and designing. Its details certainly required revision. A Court, in his Opinion, of the nature of the Insolvent Debtors', should undoubtedly exist. Some correction ought to be made in its mode of practice, and a strict account of the receipts of the assignee should be required at stated periods. The most appropriate mode of examining the subject be considered 'would be in a Committee, to which he suggested it would be necessary in the first instance the several Petitions relative to this subject should he referred: The SOLICITOR-GENERAL assured the House, it never had been tke intention of his L ea r ne d F r i e nd (th e :thiirney- General) to move for a renewal of the Bill in its present shape. It however was now generally admitted, that to re tain a Bill similar in principle to the present was extremely desirable. His Hon. and Learned Friend had resolved to let no npportunity escape in the Committee, of pointing out clauses and precautions which would more effectually secure the commercial public from the practice of fraud and de ception. Mr. Aldormaia WMTHMAN Impel% that when a Commit tee should he moved for, the greater proportion would he appointed from amongst commercial and practical men, as the majority of persons in that tionse were altogether unac quainted with the arts which were daily practised with a view to defraud Creditors. The Petition was read, and laid on the table. Mr. BROUGHAM said, he had to present another Petition, of a very different character, upon the same subject. The Petitioners were persons confined in the Castle of Lancaster for debt. Their Petition, however, was marked hyspeculiar moderation in its statements, admissions, and prayer, ,ad mitting the present had frequently been the too successful shield of contemplated fraud upon honest creditors. The Petitioners, however, earnestly prayed the principle might not be abandoned, hut that an amended 13111 might be intto duced this Session.—Read and laid on the table. He then presented a Petition to the same effect from the Debtors confined in the King's Bench. In addition to the prayer of the forester, it contained a statement, shelving that an exaggerated calculation of the amount of debts returned in the schedules of persons petitioning to be released bad nn fortunately beets too generally entertained by persons who were not aware of the disposition of debtors to overvalue their effects, credits, &c. in-their schedules, whereby diffe rent descriptions of pruperty were valued two or three times over. In offering this Petition to the House, be could not avoid alluding to the statement made by the Hon. Baronet (Sir J.Geaham) in presenting the Petition from Marir-le-bone on the subject. He could nut imagine it possible that fourteen or fifte e n hundred persons signing that Petition could ail have been personally losers by. this Act subsequent to the passing of the Act. Sir JA M ES GRAHAM had been assured by the'subseribers to that Petition), that they had each suffered personally by this Act. Scandalous deception and fraud had been resorted to very generally, and the law itself had appointed a general or provisional assignee four all cases coming before that Court. Tue ATTORNEY-GENERAL regretted the Hon. Baronet should have been so misinformed. The Clerk of the Court had been appointed provisional assignee, it was true, but he only continued so until the creditors appointed their own.— The most beneficial results had followed the appointment of a Rn.yeiver under the Act, through whom 15,0001. had been or was ready to be delivered to the assignees. The creditors themselves declaimed in this instance against the Act, whilst the remedy, as in many other cases, rested with themselves. The practice of this Court had been very closely assimilated throughout to that of the Court of Chancery.. • Mr. BROUGHAM deprecated further discussion en thi s subject in this stage of its investigation. The evil and the remedy would be discussed with most advantage in a Com mittee. Great ferment had already been created amongst per sons Ili trade, and extreme alarm amongst confined debtors, for Which reason he thought the safest; as well as shortest, way to canvass tine merits of the question would be in a Com mittee. Mr. GEORGE LAMB, in a maiden speech, was against any rancorous hostility to debtors in general. But while he de clared his wishes to act upon principles of humanity and fair dealing between debtor•and creditor, be was anxious, for the sift isfaction of the honest men of both descriptions, that the Bill should be rendered as perfect as possible. He knew that the honest but too credulous creditor was liable to many frauds, but he was fully persuaded that such amendments might be adopted as would render it far less exceptionable.— The Hon. Member was listened. to with much attention, and once or twice cheered.- The Petition was reccira, read, and ordered to lie on the PENItYN ELECTION. Sir C. BUR ELL rose to draw the attention of the House to the state of the proceedings on the Report of the Penryn Election Committee. It bad been suggested to him, that the best war of proceetlin in this 04 . 3i/unlit be, to introduce a with reference to the 'C'Omidisint of bribery and corrup tion by the Committee; and, upon the second reading of the hill, admit the parties accused to defend themselves at the Bar of the House, or in such manner as they should propose to themselves as the safest and most effectual. lie should, preparatorily to moving for leave to bring in such a Bill, move the following Resolutions : " That it appears to the House, that most notorious and infamous bribery and corruption has taken place in the case of the last Election for Penryit ; and further, that such hi st:on:es of bribery and corruption ark. not new or casual in that Borough, a similar instonce having been brought before the House iu the year 1807, as appeared by the Report of the Committee appointed to try the case of John Trevaunyon, Esq. and others. " That it also appears to the House that these instances of biihery and corruption require the must serious consideration of Parliament." suzgested the propriety of the Honourable Raijon.lK fret moving the ()Mc,. of the Day, as the !notion JS it II(M stood 911011 . 141 he withdrawn, which suggestion was agrv , .l to by the llonourable Ilarohet. The motion Was tutu withdtawn, and the above Resulations agreed to ult anioomsly. Lae was then 'rit•rri t q bring in a Dill to prevent f attire bribery and corruption in Elections for the Borough of Punryn. Mr. W. WYNN moved that the Minutes of Evidence on the Election fur Penryn in 1807 be reprint - ed.—Ordered. AMENDMENT OF THE GAME LA\VS. , Mr. BRAND, pursuant to notice, rose to move I for leave to bring in a Bill to amend the Laws for the Preservation of Game. ljkese laws, he felt justified in statitigi effecter the best and smuttiest part of the population. If any mode could be 'established, calculated to secure the pro perty in game, at the same time that it was re lieved from the mischievous effects of the present system, he trusted it would be viewed with the most favourable eye by that House. He had not with him the return of the number of per sons committed to prison under offences against these Laws. Last Session such return was moved fur; a great delay had taken place in pre paring it ; it was now ready, and he had inspect ed it ; and he must say, its correctness did not com pensate for the tardiness in itsproduction. if it were a problem, in what way most efficaciously to de moralize a country, he would refer the inquirer to the operation of these laws Take as art offence a habit, with nothing of moral turpitude in its commission ; let the population of the country be attached to the pursuit ; let its influence be of a nature to influence the most active and energetic portion of the people; let the property of the country so act as to bribe and encourage its coin- ' mission ; have annually in your prisons from 1000 to 1500 persons under this charge, there to con tract all the contagious and profligate habits of a prison association ; and will any man deny, that such a system of proceeding could fail at length to demoralize a very great proportion of the soundest part of your population )—The Hon. Gentleman then reviewed the Game Laws as they successively passed, and referred to Coke's Insti tutes as to the specific property in Game. He was ready to admit that Game was property, and, as property, it ought to be sold in the same way as sheep and other agricultural property were dis posed of. The only difference he should intro duce in his Bill, if he' was allowed to bring one in, was that he would make it the property of the person on whose ground it was found. —He knew that a very great difficulty pre -1 sented itself in the attempt to, overcome the habits of those persons amongst the lower classes who practised continued depredations on that spe cies of property. He did trust that when the en couragements of the present system were remov ed—when such men were from clay to day brought to see that it was considered in the same view as every other description of property, from the very association of ideas a more moral conception on the subject would prevail amongst them. They would be checked also by the absence of that illusion which now .existed, namely, the high price which the present system gave to the pro perty which they obtained by depredation. He was aware of the objection that would be made to this proposition, inasmuch as though it might I be easy to pr eser v e th e p r op erty i n game on l arge estates, it would be most difficult on small allot ments. Yet in France game was disposed of like all other property, and in that country property Might he - said to be infinitely divisible. He felt the difficulty of legislating on that part of the subject which adverted to Royal practices and free warrens. It was, therefore, his intention to except these, as he had no - wish to disturb a n y acknowledged real right. He had brought for ward the subject under no .pruniency of legisla tion—he felt it to be the duty of that House to follow the public opinion on such subjects. Under that impression, he had consulted the best informed persons on the subject, and the mea sure he was about to propose was, he could t , -.lte upon himself to say, in conformity with the opi nions of some of the most enlightened and dis creet men in the country. He should therefore more for leave to bring in a Bill, to amend the Laws that related to the Preservation of Game. Sir JOHN SHELLEY stated it as his opinion, that the consequence of the proposed measure would be, to drive Gentlemen from their residences in the country, and consequently to increase most considerably the burden of ;he poor? rates. Such trsults would be felt from one end of the island to the other. Mr. 13as:itEs maintained, that the measure pro posed by the Hon. Gentleman would not have the tendency of preventing the lower orders from com mitting those depredations on the Game which were now so frequent ; but that, on the cbntrary, it would increase the existing demoralization of those classes of the community. He strongly de precated every proceeding calculated to diminish that which, next to the Constitution,distingnished us from the continental nations; namely, the resi-' dence of the Gentry in the country among their te nantry. If any thing were to happen to disgust them, and induce t hem no longer to reside on their estates, such a circumstance would do more mischief than ten thousand times that which the lion. Gentle man's Bill went to remedy. He did not exactly know what the Hon. Gentleman meant by say ing, that the system ought to be made conform able to the law of nature. We were in a state in which it . ryas necessary to look at the inte rests of society as distinguished front those of na tore. The lower classes of the people ought to be directed to other objects than hunting and fish ing ; and however paradoxical it might sound, be was persuaded that the restraints on those pur suits were more to their advantage than to that of their superiors. He did not conceive that call ing Game property would diminish the disposi tion to take it. The proposed measure would, in his opinion, have no other effect than to disturb the existing system, which, though not perfect, was much better than any project he had ever known recommended as a substitute for it'; and the House should recollect, that when once a sys ten► was (newl bed, it was sometimes impossible to restore it. Mr. Ct.:mew observed, that not merely the lower ranks of the community, but a great class of the must respectable inhabitants of the country, viewed the Game Laws with detestation. If leis Honourable Friend's proposition were carried into effect, every man who had property in the country would have a direct interest in the preservation of Game. From the moment of the passing of the Act, he was a1 ,, 0 persuaded that to take Game would be considered a theft and disgraceful. The exiting Gann Law; were SO Citil'Ais to tyranni,cul, so a l; otsht the l y e o to u the htisup,lon ofg s , desirous e r the t Br it i s ht C•n to be t ole ra t ed. Me IV I I H r b . e t; F. for L E g co w I n s t. e was Cstl u e that land should not be induced to leave their residences, but it appeared to him t hat his HT _ Friend's Bill was calculated to secur e that. ~ rn t able object, since it gave to all owners 01 Castle, l. t e Gentr y asitlet t l g; titud°St ul Ong, g n. : la d full, absolute, and undisturbed possession "61 enjoyment of it. The - Honourable Gentlett! i; argued at considerable length in fa vour of measure. Leave was then given to bring in she Bill. EXCISE INFORMATIONS. Mr. D. W. Har.vev would have motion of which he had given notice for sse j night, in consequence of the intention exPre by an Houourable and Learned 'Gentleman °PA. site (the Attorney-General) to oppose it, bfit to not considered its importance to he ton glee w ir allow his private feelings to prevail over I A& lic duty. His motioa should be , s for en n 7 444 count of the number of Informations file d ~4 " c io Court of Exchequer on the Custom and withdrawn:ll:i: It Laws, between the Ist of January, IBIS , of Ist of Janndry, 1819 and also of the rff9t, each Information, distinguishing those Whl d- coa rs been settled by verdict from those settled b l l i c isor for r iie , iro omis i ea , nd se o c f u t to h i e n c s o . sts received by th e the Pr c r i o d s a v i n i theb y t c 1:1 : 10 e fl -ib ifi e; tive amounts paid by fendants." He bad originally intended t the returns of seven years, but had 111,41,1i7 trot' extent of his motion, in consequence 01 c hle and expence which such compre llen „ s 4 : l wee" counts would occasion. His object w ", t ' eV fold. He wished first to show what e""T; hod"' pences the Revenue incurred every Yei lr „,7 7 f thief tilting such Informations. Secondly , fisas were attended with the.most serious and in,ieslifs sible expellees to the defendants ; an d . ' . c ot s. 11 4 that their effect w as t o throw an almost burthen of unjust expenses upon t he ;,€O l. body of defendants wh o had been Pr °ll ,, ° . - ;:aso' innocent by a verdict' of the Court• ' l 4 A plain his meaning more fully, he should' s l oa all a few cases, which had not arisen as o ecas. f a ir exceptions, but might be considered Chat of samples of the whole. The first wt's me rs• a respectable and long-established loond°ll,,rsnce, chant, wh o , th roug h mot i ves of p u re bcoavo ° had advanced 10001. t o a ru i ne d tradesin a : l „ t i .ole... up a small shop i n th e tea an d co ffee retail that He received no other interest for his snoll e Lost the regular five per c e nt , a nd the gr 36 " pf e. e ,b 54 which a good deed nat ura lly prodnees• „ a besides allowed the b us in e s s to be carri ed his own name. This bad continued till 8A into strict but proper inquiry .d been i„ st itnueu - 04 a s ystem . of fraud injury of the Revenue and of the Cons ul :i f s, An information had then been filed agaih s i t tic if a the first charge of his having ever cog° „, r . fog' crime against the Revenue of the Cou' i lt "' ' th 4 practised 17 ted_dealerSo t°ol._ having in his possession a vegetable nov", c ; „ r 'asea sale of which was prohibited only to th e - l e , fit' deders in tea and coffee, on account of t' - otts .. cility with which it could be imposed ur r„arreii tomers for the latter.penalty thus T e ., aisr was 1001. When he had recovered froill;t,„,ils.. sooners be presented a memorial he LAI" — tooners of Excise, stating all the partiodars his case, and that he was in no wise imptie dted the retail trade its question than as the lenj. e a -e be cle-r est o ih g 10001. to aid an unfortun a t e m a n. He c that the vegetable !sootier had been .found ; 4g . • possession of that perso n , b u t that he ha d ne ibs understood its sale was an infringemen t ° f laws, and requested that all parties -should be is noosed before the Commissioners ok be heard upon oath, and then have their I n T t ialc ment apportioned as the Board tnighL ; 13 proper. To That, no oth er ans wer lis° l ' l %lO turned than a printed circular, stating, tha be Ste Board never caused any prosecution t°,% stittoed sinless the defendant was guilty 01 n v - o .scs•- r • fence against the laws, th e y nev er 11 , 11J i dare: sedition to be declined unless the d " e p t E of" should offer a compr om i se w i t h t he 10) 71 1 11. Y ses the costs. The individual in question "00S-- - neared his application, and offered' to paY''' 1 . 0 1, '[his was rejected, hut it was intimated "' A ll ot& that it lie would pay SO/. and the costs, " a - p i les be freed from any torther prosecution. ""; ts.• inquired what might be the amount of 1 10 s ic-as and was told that even at that stage of t•i le , b : is ssa ness there was not less than 501 or 601. s° would have to pay 90/. as a great favour to V r , rid of 1001.. Under these circumstances he e t i r t, ferred going to trial, not by defending but by felling the C ro w e' to make its own 43c t,c Having thus got to the Court of Exchequer d e (Mr. II.) should make some remarks on the nl %l of conducting causes in that C o u r t. %VII° c re? be plainer than the case to whi c h he bad all °. ", c as. All that devolved on the co u rs e for the pr''"ibo' lion was to explain the particulars, refer i la n osa Act of Parliament, and bri n g f orwar d one Yet would the House believe that five of l °- :.satt • learned and experienced Counsel -were - ofr Bl , - the part of th e C rown ? A Sp ec i a l J u ry W 4l- a lt isit provided, as they w e r e a lw a y s i n s i m ilar c ss f ;'fiare that with the expence of five C ounse l, th e briefs, the Solicitor, it nesses, informers, 8u w -t the special Jury themsel v e s , o f whom, it icas o l seventeen attended regularly, the whole c 6 it ild 510 83 4 amount to less than 1501. This affec it4 only the revenue but iudividuals theasselyesci For if the Crown had five Counsel they Mu st c fi - o ; ploy an equal number,- but where could thltYL i ss equal talent ? He stated a case where the r 'i n bad been different, and where the informationk: stead of being founded on guilt,hadbeen fil ed l ' i- a r; ly, and from the most malicious motives Oo p ar of the informer. A man of the lowest desc ri P "- st set tip as a table beer brewei• in an o bscure P oe of London, and repairing to shops, wh ere t business was chiefly co n ducted by appeeotsCe; purchased molasses -and treacle, for the solenen which to a licence(' brewer, the law order ° natty of 5001. to be levied. Pretending to lia rs no money about him, he told the apprentiecs d come to his house to be paid. They did 1 ° 11 .7 1 received the money. He then immediatelY formed against their masters to recover Ore P unity for haying 7,501 d m ol a sses and treacle ow licensed brewer, O W the ground that they c" not be ignorant of his being one, since t heir i ; prentices had come to his house for the Wig] h; 0 ' l l fay ~ The ~~ ,