The Sun. — London, England, 1816-06-07 00:00:00

'X'S 11 Wis sincere opinion, that, tiering the iiit between thit and the next Session, Gentlemen could, not better emPley theMselves, than by investigating the 'resent %tate of Leland and the claims of the Catlrolic Petitioners, and he was 'Confident this done, there whiiitt be* but one conviction ; a conviction, that those laws now complained of as pressing with unnecessary severity on the Catholics out to bp repealed. If this were not resolved upon, the most . 6ttal tOn acque)Mees might be apprehended ; 'for though a Military Government in Ireland• might succeed in• preventing the general trantriility from being disturbed for some time, it WAS not a system .that could he expected to endure long. He wished to ;snow how the Government now stood with et speet to this question, and whether there was that • gi eat influence ill' the Cabinet in their favour, «inch they had some right to - expect 1- On look, tug at the Cprrespondence which_ took .place be tween time Marquis Wellesley and Lord Liver pool, after the decease of Air. Percev,al in 1812, foe t id among the objections then tirge'd by Lord Liverpool against the measure of Catholic kmancipetion, the temper and conduct of the COtbolics. and the then circumstances of Europe, Were. particularly set forth. • Mr. Pere spoke to order. He had mtderstood the Hon. Baronet, at the beginning ot his speech," to intimate, he dill not now propose to take the sete-e,ot the House on the Catholic Question, but that lie had risen nierely to give a notice He did not wish to interrupt him, but, if such was hii intention, he thought it irregular to go at large into the merits of the case of the Petitioners. Sir 11. PARNELL. resumed. He did not in-end to require the decision ot the House-on the gene ral question, but he should shortly state the na ture of the motion with which lie' intended to seclude, which would go but to Call for suber- Ainate concessions. To return to the, teasons riven by Lord' Liverpool in 1812, for not consent ing to Catholic Emancipation, he begged to call the attention of the House to the changes while • had taken place since that period; In -the - 'first the conduct nett temper of the Catholics 'were quite different. The Catholic Clergy end Laity had recently- corsented to a measure with respect to 'the nomination of their Bishops, which virtually put an end to the practical influence of the Pope its this Calitpire, though it might not go ass, far as some of their opponents might contend, it ought to go. The circumstances of. Ent ope !oo were now so changed, that the arguments opposeil to the measure of Catholic Emancipation in 181'2, collie! he no longer brought (dr 'Ward. He wished to know what circumstances were now to be re ferred to; in order to justify Government in re fusing to make it a Cabinet question If ever there was a period at which it ought to be matte a 'Cabinet question, it was the Session now passing by, and this, he thought, must he acknowledged . by every one 'who remembered - the statement (which had been Made in that House by the Right .lion. Gentleman opposite, on the present situation of Ireland. The repeated disappointments which the Catholics had experienced, had induced a neva, belief, that it was not intende,d ever to relieve them from the• 'disabilities under which -they at present laboured,. and -he was therefore anxious now, by calling for some sub Ordinate coucessions, to convince them, that they acre ..tit ' , wholly neglected. These, if granted, would be 'received with gratitude;' and, in claiming • thems lie +(stunted h heselfon the authority of thk Speaker, who three years ago had, wir,le arguing in favour, of Withholding'political influence from the Cat ho, lies, expressed himself in favour of the most per fect toleration. He wished, in' the first place, to 'open to time Catholics of Ireland, 'several of those offices from which they were excluded by time Act irif 1793. He wished, among -others, to make them eligible to serve as Cashiers null Tellers of the Exchequer; as Attorney and Solicitor-Gene. Tai ; as Master-General ot the -Ordnance ; and 'also to make them competent to fill any Office in tiny Corporation. He wished the Army and the wavy to he thrown open to 'excluding Catholics from holding the rank of Commander in the forces, and subjectiag to similar exception in the tavy. .11 it were necessary to state cases of hardship to prdve the expediency of adopting these Resolutions, such cases could be easily ;Aimed. The case of one Gentleman he beg ged to be 'permitted to bring under the no flee of the House.. The individual to whom lie referred, entered the Navy in 1796, anti con fitter(' in the seeviee during the •remainder of the; lete wer.'. Halted the good fortune to distinguish himself, so that he'veas recommended to the Ad. piralty in his Commander's dispatches, and , in couseqeence promoted to the rank ofiCoinniander. al short time since he was called upon to t'a're out Iris commission„ when the oath lie was required to -.stake being 'incompatible with his religion, be not 'only lost his, promotion, but with it the emote 'smuts which he •ss.as entitlell- to for his long see .iviet. This Gentleman had lost four bi.others - in the service. Otte :of them was an Officer Who was *hot in Spain, and the other three had lost their lives through fatigne or from the. climate where '6O-services had been required. The next con eeSsion 'he should require woelil be, that Catlin 'lies should he allowed to sit-in Parliament on tak ing the same oaths as were taken by Protestants. Ile next intended to propose, that the Catholics. of Ireland should be . subject to the-same laws h respect to property as the' Protest tint S.. From peglect of the qualifying Oath, at present required, .urine cases of much hardship bad occurred. He Alluded to one, iii wEich a 'Gentleman who had 'been a Surgeon, having left a considerable sum to aineanot her, it urns obtained by another whir wai a TrateStant, in consequence of the latter having as certained that , - the qualifying oath had not been taken. He then proposed to make further prod - iron • for Securing Donations to Roman Catholic Chapelsfor Maintaining aged - Priests, or founding behit,mis for she-Eilueafron 'of the Catholic Chil (I rftm. 'The two next' Resolutions would go to punish those who might' disturb a Roman Catho . jic - cNtigregarion inn place of or insult a Catholic Clergyniae, and to pettish Officers in the Artny Or Navy, who might forcethoseundertheir •coninmand to attend any place of worship, not be . 19,oging to those of the- Itoman Catholic persua vken• If these Resoletions should bi- edopted by ttie•youse, xt let>iiid be proper to add to them one it %eta be eectssary to place the Catho: t:3 01 01110 Ireland. Thisbe thought that which ought to bare been dout long ago. if the propasitioos which had brought forward were ag►'eed to, the tatho lics,wonld be relieved froth many practical of *which they at present coniplained, And he doubted not the boon would he "received with suit- able gratitaule. 'These concesoooi be thought might safely hernade, awl - tie 'toped , thee Noble 1,0 opposite (Lord Castlereagh) would give tiee Test)lotiim he was ifotV about to subtnit . to the Hbuie'his support. He then mnve►l the resol►i tion for punishing persons who -might disturb a Roman,Catholie Gongtegation.,or insult a .eathof lir Preacher. Alr. PE R'L moved, that the Standing Orderivith respect to Religion should be read. - The Standing Order .wpis read: it tet that no Bill relating to Religh•n, or to alter 'the Laws tespectirgit, . should-he brought hnt in consequence Of the Resolutions of a; touttnittei, of the whOle House. Mr: PEEL was aware the Hon. Baronet inighi ssay he did not mean to Move for lease to bring in a Bill in the present instance, but he (Mr. Peel) wished to point out to Win that he would gain no thing by the present mode of proceeding, even though the Resolutions should be carried, as it woulCi then be necessary to submit them► to a Com- mittee of the Whole House before a Bill could be brought in. The SPEiMER stated the Standing Order of the House to have the effect described by the Right Hon. Gentleman. He, however, dirt not know. butlmy Member Was free•to submit an abstract proposition to the House, though in a case like . the preient ' , such a proceeding must be fruitless. Sir H. PAimet-t. was aware of this objection'td taking the general question in this way, but when he had only called on rite, House to consider a branch of it, not involving important political topics, he had thought the Standing Order not equally applicable.. • Mr. Serjeant BEST contended, to take the jeer piece -meal, by which means the whole might be brought into discussion, was obviously against the spirit of the Standing Order. Sir 11. PARNELL referred CO Old !11/Mail - 1p Of the Parliament of Ireland," to :shety be, was not , so much mistaken its the coarse he had pursued as might have been suspected. '.vishedin know if the Hon. Baronet meant to persevere in his motion, as in that case he should feel it to . be h s duty to otfer a very abort reply to his speech ? PARNELL expt essed himself ready to sub mit to the Right lion. Ge„tle►uan, if he (Mr. Peel) pressed his objection: to . the course he had Lord CASTLEREAGa fv . )tfor the situation of the Honourable 13aronet,•• In 'the ciltir4e 'of ?Arlin thentary business no lino. Member mild he gray tined Ht bringing torward'a motion tinder tireont stances like those which attended that now bet Ore the House. It was impossible not to feel, that in thus bringing the question lomat d he could do it no 'good; and the Hon'. Baronet no.v stood in a most painful situation in the of the empire, in "that of the House itself, and in that of his own polirical friends. If under such auwiees he could reconcile it to his own feelings to proceed, such a course would be abhorrent to the feelines 'of those wlao usually acted with him, and.to others who felt as anxious on this qn(Ntion as the towable Baronet himself could do. lie trusted he (Sir Henry Parnell) %%pallid feel that to per would be to sacrifice the real interests of the question to what he might regard as 'his • own consistency, though surely that could not really be consistency in him, which at all made against those of whoth he had - so long been the advocate., He would put it to the Hon. Baronet, if many of the friends to this qiiistion bad not withdrawn themselves on account of the course which he had thought it his duty to take he would a s k if 'it was dealing can didly . by ,site House thus to bri ng thi s mission piece- mea l ? great question hitt) dis ,He (Lord Castlereagh) was not prepared to oppose those concessions which had heep,called for, bat at the sante time he could not stiffer himself, from the view be took 'question, to be dragged in to support every indis creet motion Whith might be brought forward can- fleeted with it. The imprudent motioo of the lion. Baronet he thought likely to dogreat injury to the cause, and therefore ionicl not give it his support.. He put it to the lion, Baronet', if by persevering in his motion he could hope to serve the Catholics, when it was seen his own pOlitiq3k friends were ahsetit, to avoid being -placed - in that dilemma: which would lease them WI choice hut to vote against his , rititien, or to do that which wnuld not serve-the 00110110 E He hoped the Flon.Ba- - would cotteiliate Parliament, by net perse vering. a his resent motion, HS'it W3S 'obviously 'the interest et the question, that he shmad &than.; don it, and he therefore hoped he would with draw his resolutions. ' Sir H. PARNELL briefly replied. He notwithstanding what had fallen from the Noble Lord, that every discussion served the cause, and it could not be expected that the condtict of the Catholics would be satisfactory, while their claims were neglected. He consented to Withdraw:his resolutions. Mr. H. ADDINGTON moved for leave to bring in a Bill to repeal certain laws relating to the and to amend others. The motion was agreed to, and the Bill was immediately brought in, read a. first anti ordered to be read a second time to-morrow, " The Minor Offenders',Bilf went through -a Com mittee, the report of which was ordered to- be received to-morrow. The Ex - thequer's 'Consolidation Bill.was read a second time, and ordered to be committal on Monday, On the motion of Mr. Citottaa, the second read-. ittg of the Silver Coinage Bill was postponed till to7Morrow. Tire Exchequer Bills Bill went through a Com-. mittee,•,the report of which was ordered to be re ceived to-morrow. The Report of the Lottery Bill was brought up and agreed to, anti the Bill ordered to be read a third time to t morroW. • The. Report of the Committee of Ways''and Means was),trought up-and agreed to. is aTvuniwittee on the . Acts relnitis to Smug ; brining..in a Hilt to atreod the c%iviiig 11!,:ws, which visas itgreed to. Tile Report t+ as ordered to he received to-atoTrow. The Property Tax Arrear COthection was l'ead H second time, and - cOrtnnitied for to- morrow. The Tridt 'fre;isilky Bilk 'l3ili and the Bank 'Capital Bill %vent through Committees of the whole Hoose. Itet,6‘rls 'to-morrow. The ElPlronteter Bill also went (biting!) atolif tuittee at. Ike - whole House, the Report of which tras ordered to be received to-morrow. The Report of the Irish Malt Doty BiII'VVIIS re ceived and agreed. to, -and the Bill ordered to be lead a.thirtLtitne:nn Monday next. , SCOrCir DNI'ILLERY LAWS. On the: motion fot a Cpunnttee on the Scotch Distillery Act, . Mr. GRANT hoped it'wolt4l not be brought for yard in so thin a House. • • The CUANCELLOItof the EXCHEQUER said, the messure was Of t' - ry urgent importance iH phint - of time, and as this was only the very first sta;ze of the measure - , there would be many otheroppor- Utilities of discussing it. Ms. .1. P GnANf wished to know what reduc tion. was to be made in the ditty ? and also spoke in favour of delay. The Howse then Went into the Cominittee. • The enANcif.4,Loa of the ExeuEauta Said, that illicit distillation' had of late years been carried on to a must mischievous extent ; and tint this teas very much to, be 'attributed io the had quality of the spirit produced front the regular distilleries. The Om which be intended ?n{ submit to the Commit.. tee consisted 'of re:;itifttion'And reduction Of ditty. I Fur t bk. - purpose, he intended . to enforce the ItSe of stills. By this' means i esperictiiy th e Highlands (where illicit fikt Illation chiefly pre vailed), a palatable spirit miht be produced in the legal way, :Atul illicit distillation thus eTecttially prevented. A - boundary had been established •foe' the Highlands, within which' the distillery duty ;" but with this regtilitinn, that house of the spirit distilled within the Highland boundaty j thotild he transported to the L'OwlAnds. But - he :Oow intended to abolish this line entirely, And to reduce the , duty on the whole from Os. 4(1. to 4 , 1. per gallon. He then moVed a resolution to that effect. Mr. C. ChttiNT, senior, said a few words not audible in the Gallery. Mr. W. Smrrtt wished that the . Right Honour able Geittletuan had gone a greater length, and .bail wade the Duty still lower, - He . feared that 'lire babas of the . people in the Highlands had-heen • 30 HMO aCCMIOUIed to have their Spirits. without Tiny Duty, that it would be difficult to collect a _duty of 6s: 4;l. CHANCELLOR of the ExcnEoutta.saitli Oult the _higher the duty Was inade, so us it could he collected, the better it would be for the morals of :the people. Mr:I I II4I.NY thought Gs. 4d. too 'pith a duty undtt 'the ,present cireunistattees. lle conceiyo that the main, object was not :to iilere3se die re venue, but to destroy stitugitt:itg..--and with, this would proliose a 'duty very epasitler!. ably lower. • - „ Atter a few words . from' Mr. MYlne, Mr. C. Grant, sen. Mr. Wni.Dilintat; and Mt. C. Air. Vgsay said-,:thixot if the duty wes wade too low,, the eifegt, would be Only to - , Pilcottrage th e ciansompOon, of spirits, to the de teriointion of the morals'of the people, and thus to legalize the mischief which- 1t was *wished to pro Tent, Mr. J. P. GRANT spoke shortly in hcbalf' - Or a greater reduction in the duty. The Ciiiitq:Ett.oft of the EXoll3Citittlt Said,Vaitt he was convinced upon the whole, that the rate which he proposed was the best, under till circum- stances. , i After a few word; farm Mr. - 3. P. Grant, Mr. linlay, and Mr. W. Smith, the resol ,tiOns were agreed to, and the report ordered to•be reeriyed to-morrow. . .. The Irish Paper Duty Bill was brought up *lntl read a first time; second reading to-morrow. Mr. \V. SMITH I;,tVe notice that he should move to-morrow for (intier papas respecting titettis iu Aill.Attjoutoeti. NAVAL NEWS DIAL, SUN K 6.--Sailed the. Nestor, 'NECKER, for (.;"alctitta, and the Plic‘be, JACKSON, for Car (Fat. Arrived, and remains, the Ttillueli Castle,! GULBT , I> frOill Jamaica, atul the Commerce, front Detnerar4.. The Mary, HURRY, from the Medi tertitnean, and the Europa, MANNING, trout St. Kilt's, have put back intolhe Downs, with the iosi of an au'ator and cable each.—.. Wind N.W. RYE, JUNE 6.—Came in . the Louisa pilipt, ItublidEßs, loss of m' nio-must, which shi : Carried away off &achy Head, about one -o'clock this morning. , , . PORTSMOUTH, JUNE 6i.----Arrived his Majesty's ship Rye from 'the Downs; Hound, transport from Onk ; Snake, FAittup as a, from the Dot as, Auspicious, DanucT, from Cadiz for the Baltic ; Sailed the T.;atuel ttore.ship for the West Indies; his Majesty's ship ludefatiga , ble for Sheerness.— Witid N.V. HARWICH, JUNE 6.—Put back the Aneklana packet, with ri ruail and passengers for Cuxhav having sprung her bowsprit.—Wind N. PcYnotrra, JUNE .—Caines its the SYWONSI anal L'Ann, MATTACOTT, from Guernsey. GRAVESEND, JUNE 6. Arrived the Mary, Cawson, Gtasotst, from New Providence Stelta, HERWRLL, from4.4renada ; Norfolk Hero, Dttw, from Tobago, Sailed the Julius Cxesar, Lucit.te, for. Demerara ; Fanny, WESTN/ORP.LAND, for ditto ; FOrttiili; JONES, for Ostend ; WALKER, fur Grftnatlit i Old Frirud, SPUNCE) for ligmburgh, FRQIkt ;rflt ILIVEitPOOL COUBIFit; - "TllB ELECTION.."Mr. CANNING 1,1i1%1, g ae• cepted the office of Frht Contanssiotier-of : the AIM faits of India, we are now on the ere . of a new. Election, and wt cannot but coneratniate the Ministry and the country ati the accessicin of a Statesman of so much talent, etiaraefer, and put- triotistn, to the Administration. 'T'►ie Ministry tvi►l derive much wei , h from Lirn ; and the strength And kvisdOniof the Ailinio - f4trition is the strengh of the State. • • 74- Of the re-election of Mr. Canning for this Borough we 'cannot tloitht. As tar ;1 1 principles arc conceraed 41t. has cluithtless,r.cpreseeited the scmimaents of the nmiority it) this town ;- if the talents of A ArtNiiter'reffect credit upon his Elec. tors, and 'afford a bittEeient. pledge.-for the sonort of their interel:ts,, iCvytgliti be in vain to look pti::_tite7Stfkitts-nseprnt:The present (lay I s ar Cu - tiosyntel. ts of -a ttifierinr ; and the steldy consistency bf Mr. Canning's public li,e, his ever being Fund on the . sitte of Ws country, Whetker in or tint cif office; 'leaves unnwibtetl the sincerity of his Contoct, aria the patribtit , rn of his heart." After notiCing the attempts ilia by th:e Potriois ~ to get Mr:.LkYLA'Nri, or \Yahoo, ,or Mr. body ,Id . stand iixOpposilion to - Mr:CO.IMM, trio same ably etttl Jourlittt says— "if we have aht niggle now, it is stritgvie ex poy. on thy: ground of form.or ones---a strot;glt: of principle's against principles ; of the diltnivert of Btionaparte, of the opponents of titat contest whiCh has so gloriously terminate:a in the deliver ance of tht country, and tltc saltation of Enrripe, - against those who, - having: remained .faithltil to their country, and to true British principles, have placed the country out of the reach of ioreign. danger, given it . tlevatinn' and nootaMpled teeter among the States of Europe, atiel ed. those pacific relations which, though ., attemlsa with temporary inconvenience, must .1116111,a: 1y lead to a state of national proiperily.. sneli struggle L‘verpool has beim e 'triumphed, ceitel'it a ill again trinmph." , On Ni o ndav the Friends 91 Mr. CAN assent-• bled in the Large RoOat, "Gri Litit, to Ilthe into Consideration the theasures to be adopted for scr:uring his re--election as Member of Parliameut for Lixerpooe. On the motints of Mr..llollitishead,r Mr. TaN was called to the Chair, amid-the'plattdiWof the. Mee; it4g., ...He said they were all .aware :that Mr.. Canning had vacated his seat, in consegittnte -of having accepted Ofgee l ,and that therefat! his y - e.election,Watirecessar'y. He rrusted his . triZnik Avoid(' Come focwardmi.th theisome. zeal and inns , nimity which 111ex.mnifesterl at.ttte period of,hjs election. Some re g al expellees would be inetiritie; - aittiAberefore' a ,stibs'cripiinti %Vonld be If He woulil gladly conttibtit all its his . power to- tfe „enre •Nr...Catming"s rerelettit,no .for-exPurkvic.e It;ttl Proved that tityy could n , ..t return a more eli gib','c• •Mr. Cant ing ts:tutt 4 bi:Airs town on WednesdAy (ibis day), andNvouldremaht .at his (Mr. BoltotiAllionse, whe,re aji who wi l lmd would have an oppottquity ot paying him their Irehpetti. 'A COmMittee wottlit. - now be formed 'other' Which. they would atimnro: to the. King's ;Arras„. to Nocert- measures for•Sflooling OVVepposition, that might be made, though ho was anti fled anni would sacceed. Mr. GLAIDETONE then rose, and said . , bisiSiend Mr. 110'ton had . 113 formed the Meeting, that his Royal Highness the Prince Itegent,. conscious of hits , splentli4 talents and the impOrtance ot his serw vices to tine country, had again -called Mr. Cunning to old his Itoyal Highness's Councils. Mr.CatOlig was now, therefore, a Cabinet Minister, holding one 'of the first situations hr the Goivriment of this great Emp're. It must he pectdiatly flat, tering to the town of Livvcpoql, ,tliat its repre sentative should he selected to occupy so import. ant au office as that of President of 'the Isoard of Controul; to•whotti it' entrusted the atiaira of our g',gaittie empire in, the East Indies. , Meinbers of the Administration may ht etlyrily active ; but there is 'none -. Who is so much concerned in superintending the cotimierre and affairs of the East India Colupatty.Liverpool was .now beginning lo participate extensively in the trade of the East and site was deeply interested in its sttcvess. He could not, them fore,..refrain from grattriAting the meeting that Mr. Can tting, as he eouh.lently expected, would hcl a L „fain their r, , piestwituive Parliament. said, it tt'a.. alniest supernuons at that time to melitioti to the Meeting the advantages which had accrued to Li v t , I pool by ha% lag had Cllr. Canning, ftir one of its Representatives. During the pe riod that-we had the bottom of being represented by 'him .(Jor be (Mr. G.) did consider the t0‘.4 . 1i to be , honoured by it), the business of the town had never been Utter executed ; and evcry virtual applieatibp hod 'Me:t the Most cOur. twos reception.. Such being the iMportimt- stir, vices of jr.. Canning, be mild trot for a tannest doubt that they Would again re turn him - to Parliament. with tine Same ttnatti - .: mitt' of feeling,tts when he. fist, presented hiniself to their suffrages. Mr. Canntig.w.ottid be in Liverpool Wethresdar;and would reside at Mr. remained rt.) be, done was.to forma Committee for the general manage,:, mem of the electiOW. It, was not known certain. ly whether there would be any serious opposi tion ; but of thiS he Was eertain, • that, if there be, it wile be rt t the proper method to •prest.4rve peace. was, to be prepared_ for war. Opin2sktinn could only enit l ince the Va. , lore of the victory ; and strong as they were iu 'public opinion; and gubtineis tterltheir cause, ` the road to obit:nate mteceo was t 3 Pert before Ikon. Ur. G. then prOposed the formatiow of a Committee, The !MIMS of the G ent l emen forming , the, Cptn. mittee were tnet, read ; 'after which they *d. ipurped to the s Awls, And the bleetirigralt. dissolvtA4