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_ • k . . 4 4 ) ve . 4 ; . ` \ 4 l' b Soi:/ * 4P/4 P 4, c, AP- it' * PROTESTANT AND CAT HOL IC AIHURCHIN THE GRAND DUCHY OF BADEN. " Of all animosities, those proceeding from r eligious differences are the most proaperons , the must irratlonal, and have always been attend -with the grestest possi ble mis fortune."—Sir F. Bur k The inhabitants ofe Grand Duchy of Baden and when they 'enjoy equal civil and public r ights, , a're of the Christian persuasion, have the same claims to every. place in the civiladministrntion ..as well as in 'the army, . ss EeeslaindiVi.dual.enjoYs. .fulkund entire liberty. of conscience, and equal protection in his manner of worshipping God. :•-• The pulalit and political rights of all believers ,of the-Christian -faith are the same. All property belonging to the church,, the estatec'i :tad' revenues of pious foundations, of the publie echool A, and of _charitable establishments, must be . I '4)ent in a manner confOrmable to their ortginal.pur . poSe s and their administration - .belongs to their re epective churches; but Government has . yet the; right of inspecting and controulling them. Every believer of the Christian faith can be a member of the House of Parliament ; besides, the. Protestant and Catholic Bishops are the representatives of their respective churches in the House of Peers. The members of every religious sect. can become , citizens of the' Grand Duchy, provided they, do not disturb pußlic peace, - or.tathere in their religious worship. Everyinl;ahitaet of the Grand Duchy may change, his religious faith as soon as he has attained his 16th year, without prejudicing his public rights and pre rogatives. Marriages between believers of a diffee rent oreed are free and allowed. The consecration of mixed marriages may be performed at pleasnreby the. clergyman of the bridegroom; or by that of the ;hide, or by both. Every church in the Grand Duchy can claim 4's own government, regulated 'conformably to its petal s . liar warship, to which the internal regulations of the church belongs. In particular, the Catholics hare a right to such a prerogative, their general church k tablistmleta requiring a centre of unity of faith, in vested with every influence on its fellow-believers, But no church establishment can withdraw its acts and doing' frotis the inspection and confroul of Go; vernment.• The guidance of its believers "to an in ternal or Moral purpose, as well as to en outward but more clerical one,, can be done by every church e stablishment, without any interference of Govern ment, by means of .peblie instruction, a dmonitions, exhortations, , and even by exclusion from the com munity. But their ecclesiastical means of coercion cannot extend as far as to have any influence-on.so chit life and civil concerns of their adherents., Every church establishment enjoys a full and unlimited judiciei authority in all its interior and clerical con eerns, provided it does not interfere with the, civil rights of their countrymen. All affairs being.a two fold referenee,—ag, for example, marriage matters-- belong to the church only as far as regards their ec clesiastical character. At the same time no -church .establishment has any right to claim, that married people of different persuasions »hall submit to its pe culiar rules and principles. No parson •or schoolmaster, who is enjoyieg a fixed and regulated living or salary, can be appointed . by a ny church,' without the interference and appro bation' of Government. The Protestant Church Establishment iegov.erned in the nameof the Sovereign, and by a eonsistory empOwered.by him for that purpose. As the mem bers of this council are servants of theatate, it unites in itself the supreme authority in all the concerns of the Protestant church. By the Catholics, on the contrary, this supreme authority is separated from the ecclesiastical establishment, and administered by a peculiar council, empowered for that purpose. 'The supreme authority' of-- the Catholic church can never be.separated from its head, the See of Rome. it is the centre ()fits unity of creed. But this authority cannot be executed and fulfilled-, ex cept by a Bishop; , who has his permanent seat in,l the Grand Duchy. He is at the bead of all Catho . lie parishes,' advised and assisted by a eleri,?al . Senate, the Chapter ;, and be has besides, for the advantage of the Catholic inhabitants, his officials and ecclesiastical conemissariea in the different party of the Grand Duchy, as. well as the deaneries.., The Bishop is elected by the chapter, but cannot he.con firmed and, empowered but.by the consent and agreee resent of Government. The Appointment -of the canons belongs to the Bishop,ebut the person , pro posed must he confirmed by Government, Thettid , fore no persona principi ingrate . can . be Made'. a Bishop or Canon. As the plaeidum regiuni tO' the public acts and' publications of the .Catholic cherch belongs to Government , ' the '.cOrrespondence of the Bishop with the See of Rome :ie under no eontrimil. • . . The Bishop, the Chapter, and all 'the Ministers Of the Catholic Church, .are 'controlled by a parti cular college, emanatitigfrom the Home Department. • It is empowered 'with the civil or secular supreme Authority of the Catholic Church, to - Which, at the same time; belongs the administration. of jail the Church property. The chief incumbent dirty of. this College is to withhold from, .the•Citholie Church establishment every participation in the cip rights and prerogatives of Government. ~ In general, the supreme authority ,:bf governnten't over every Church establishmentin the. Grand Duchy; tan p t d: ends the following prerogatives, stiz:;-.-1; The inspection ,of all the' acts and 'doings of theCherePe s by "Government, that noening shall happen that..may endanger the 'wax ofthe country. 2.the right to take notice of and authorise any publication, as WWI as the installation of the 'different Ministers of the Church, 3. The right to exclude every person 'from a Church employment who doea not meet with the uPPrOba, non of Government. 4. 'The light 'to authorise th e foundation of . convents or ecclesiastical. societies, or to abolish them if contrary is the endsof ;public peace and safety. 5. The right of appointini con firming the servants of the Church proposed fen that purpose by the Church D;tablishment. 6. The right of interfering in and arranging a ll quarrels and eomplaints originating from transgressions or a b u iC a , sd . the Church and its servants. In the proclamation and consecration of nuptials, as well a s christenings and burials, clergymen are n ot only con sidered as servants of burials_, church, but, like Wise of Government: hence they'are under an obligation to ascertain beforehand, whether the act they are go i n g to perform will not he against or in opposition civil taus and the constitution o to the the country. 'church ceases to,h)e. citizen o minister of any of the Grand Duchy, a nd as they still enjoy t h e a d s vantages and prerogatives cennected therewith; they must likewise submit to the duties and burdens en tailed thereon. In general' the believers of each persuasion have, their own public schools, hut in case that their num ber 1 . 0 not sufficient for that purpose, in any townor village, or that the means of supporting the school are want;tig, then the school of one eonfession. go into the scZloel of others ; but then they are obligati to submit to ;in the rules and regulations which Inas not opposed .to- their own religious faith and ma/6 111 N But in such a ease the instruction in their relies gious doctrine alwaye belongs to the respective dere, gyman of their creed. Besides,' there are in the ; whole country Sunday and evening schools, which are visited by children of every persuasion. The higherpublic schools, even when they belong to be. • lievers of one church, can b e esevente4 by persoils of a different faith, as, it happens with regard to thei children of Jews. In places where Protestants and Catholics are living together,• the professors of the higher - schools are generally half Protestanti and half. ' Catholics. The dark and sinisterl spirit of 11491er:wee f, st i e .d . away in thii country before the true well-understood genius of Christianity; and religioq Pea ce and unioa are now flourishing every where, protect ed by li beral laweAnd a free constitution. May the genius of . true Christianity soon shine, andextend his blessings.; ever Ireland, this gigantie.supplicant; *and May last the tides of too long-established prejudicef, bee stemmed for ever. 'Tis the most ardent wish of a great lever and 'admirer of your nation. csrlsrube l April 24 Or, FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE. FRENCH PAPERS. I (From the Gazette de France, May 5.) ODESSA, APRIL 10.—We have received the agree- I f able news that their Imperial Majesties will arrive' in this town at the end of this month, or the he-_ 4 l ginning of 'next . Every preparation has already I been made to receive our august visitors. It is said that the Emperor will stay here but a few days, and will then-.proeeed - immediately - to the army. The Empress will_ remain among us till the end of the camp'aikn. All the troops are advancing in divisions and-ideorps, and will be so concentrated on the 27thor'28th;that . they will be able to oka the earn.. aign. • Tlie weather' is now favoitrable ; the roads, • Whiefirhave hien'rendeted impassable the . mains, are by'the sun and the wind, so 'that they. are as good.as the best made roads. Vessels . laden 14ith prOviittimfail daily for . Killia, where the perial squadron .will assemble. to support the artny.•! It.iß,s td tha i t the poutoniers have received orders! -re: commence, •On the• 17th, the erection of the bridges on the passage of the Pruth.--Thisis the ' day on which the Grand`Dtike Michael is to arrive at the'arnty. pp RiEtiA 21.-L-The'arcOuntS from matta say; that the llussian squadron, commanded by Count Heideit;:had sailed on, the - 14th, to reinforce the squadrons block4ding Na:v4rin; however, a part of it,,, is, In joio • the 13,ussian ships 'which are at. SmYrna.- It.ib also.said that several French and English ships have received orders to go and block ade thf port of Alexandria, This news, however, needs tonfirmation. • • -.• (From the 4 upstiurgla Gazette.) PARIS,. MAY 4..--Messrs. •de Peyr4nnet, Ravez and Porta% are spoken of as snceessors to Count de Sue. The-Constitutionnel is angry at the'idea that M, de Peyronnet or M. Ravez may be appointed to suff {eed'Al. d e lSeze, and it proposes M. lienrion de PlAisey, one of the Preiklonts of the Court of Cas sation. It is possible that this affair may have re sembled a conclaVe, in which the oldest and the most infirm have the most chance of success. PrinceNpsilanti arrived at Paris three days ago. The Marquis of Londonderry is tsi leave Paris to• day, to return'to London. Our private letters in form us that Portugal is still tranquil. This situa tion-is attributed to the language of the French and English. Jotirnals. A French frigate is expected at Lisbon. it will be stationed in the Tagnsp.protect the French merchants. • . Accounts from Brazil, received at . Lishon, an nounce that a serious insurrection has broken out in several pr&inees. The speedy departure of Don Pedro for the Peninsula was spoken of. It is known that that Prince has views on Spain. All this war like intelligence destroys commerce 4 nothing , is done, and the warehouses are full. M. Durand de Ma, reuil, the French Ambassador, is expected every moment... , -Le Phare - fu Hiti;re; • IMPERIAL PARLI4MENT. . . . . , . .. HOUSE •OF LORDS, MAT' 6. .. The LORD .CHANC,ELLOR took ; his seat on the Woolsaek at five minutes past five o'clock. . • • , On the motion of the Earl of SHAFTESBURY, several Bills Were' read a second and several a third time. Sir, E: KNATCHBULL and others brought from the Commons a Bill, entitled an • Act to .consolidate arid amend the Laws relating to the conduct of Elections, and return of Members to . serve in Parliament—the Conso lidated- Fund Appropriation Bill—the Sandwich and Mar gate- Roads Bill , -..,-the Greenwich .Poor Bill—and the Banbury Road :Bill. . The F..irl of .HARROWBY , presentsd a petition fforn the . Roman Catholics of a parish in Staffordshire, praying for the removal of the civil disabilities under which they labour. , : • • . . Mr. Ctrartrar and others brought up an Inclosure Bill, and the Grimsby Haven Road Bill, Lincolnshire. General Ciascorse and others brought up a Bill for authorizing thei Trustees of the Liverpool Docks to raise a further sum—a Bill for establishing Markets in Swan , ,ea,, Glamorganshire, and two Road Bills. Air. Ltianv.i.r. and others brought up the Newaastle , and. Carlisle•Road , , Bill'. • .. . Lord W.. Patii.FrT and others brought up the .Steam Navigation. Company Bill, authorizing the Company to make a navigation cut. Lord KENYON 'presented a petition Gam a parish in • .Ari.nagh, against further concessions to the Catholics. The Diaise of BEAUFORT presented a petition from the Ministers 'arid Churchwardens of a parish in Bristol to the same effect. ' ' The Eltfl 'of WINCHILSEA presented a petition from • Petsriate, Keiti praying for the abolition of slavery. ' Lcird JURANTLWpreeented a petition in favour of the Stockton Rail-way Road Bill. Lord CLIFTON• presented a petition from the proprie tors of the Hibernian Joint Stock Company, praying that the Bill now in progress through Parliament might pass into a WV" ' • Earl GREY presented'A' petition from the Out-patients of the Royal Hospital, Chelsea, praying to be reliked from the tax of five per cep: `on their pay, and stating that the pensions of the army were 'subject to no such imposition. Upon the motion of the Earl of SfiAFTESBURY, the House west into a , Committee, -and reported upon the Steam Passengers' Repdation Bill. Earl CANDOR Moved for an account of all sums of mo ney belonging to the suitors of Great Britain- and Wales that bad iverr paid into the Bank of England in the name of the A g e comptant-General, • r e specting suit% . instituted in the Court of Great th , taions in Wales. In making this motion the Noble Lord took the opportunity of asking whether it 'was the -intention of his Majesty's Ministers that the Com miszioners aPpointed to make enquiriea into tbe practice of superior Copes; should enquire into the Courts of Great Session: - in 'Wick - The LORD CHANCFLLOR did not rise to object to Vila motion, butito'state that the inquiri3s of the (iommis sioners should extend to . the Great Sessions of Wales i what result those inquiries would lead to, it was inipossi.' ble for him to anticipate, but he was sure that his Ma jesty's Ministers . Wouleldirect their hest attention to that result, whatever it might be, ”fith a View, if possible, of 'improving the 'practice there. GAME . LAWS. \ .. The Margitti of SALISBURY moved that the Report 'of the GaMe Bill be brought up. • T he Ffarl ofMADIES BURY did not object to the experi 'Mental Measure otiginally intended, although he felt that the Ecility afforded' to the sale of f4ine would increase rather :than diminish the crime of stealing: At present unquali fied persons were liable to conviction far sailing Game, but under the provistiOS ,nf the' eresent Bill, a man pos sessing ten acres of land Might sanction 'any other man's having game in his pessession, - For the poacher had only to refer to the farmer holding ten acres' of grown!, and thus escape punishment. One of the effects of the resent Bill would he to destroy that OM feeling whirl) had hither to subsisted betiVeen Lane/dont and Tenant. Let game be , nnee considered ari'lirticle'of property anti the farmer would -look upon his landlord, in cage he shot gam: , upon his grouted, as actually taking so much money out of hi,i pocket. It would moreover encouragc litigation . among the farmers : evil would be contending for lila right to the game. In Let, it would- convert the formers into gams-keepers, and induce these . idle liabita which'would he perfectly imp, resting with a prcp ar cultivation . Of their land. Instead of rktln.n his hand, g in his bed at night, the farmer would be out with his gun` in his pheu ants, and in the tl ay-ti time, if he heard &stint fired near him, lie would desert his busi. a 'Bill wcboifuthidwnoeili,eldr regain netts for' the purpcs=e of seeing who it was that was violating which hail so long existed. They 'his property. The Noble Lord' conjured the House to o•hefore they' passed ii a lly thaistaiteOf things Alto id bear . ,in 'mind th at they i g o ° the o te ld - if o nee 'they altered it.--(Hear, he ' 1 ' I syst na .„ , v ,,, 0v ,,,„ -art atv a laiigh.y . • The' Marquis' nr 1-. 11 ' 1, ,17 7 . 11 in' consequence of a . l • t i iin by a Noble 'Lord t ea ' • ' ~ a previous call trig& upon . even ing,,tlumght it necessary to say a few wo rds i n rds answer,' and thereforh. b , rnse for the purpose of h givin g , not his i rn .. 'portani, - hur his iri9ign it i cant, thoug • sincere, su p port to P the. ie ill lntroduced'by Noble Marquis, which he con sider/A to be a measure of vast ,cinseipience, and such as to call for the iiinsideration of tlii,Legislaturei ,''He was sure that :their :liorilihipik, Were aware that,. ' tinder the existing law ' the'reinie of'fiaching had considerably ipereased in when, by returns this ountry within the last fear' years, , ne j e tly colleeted:i , the Public Officers of the . country, i t 'year xceeded, hy ;1770,,.the highest return of coniiiiittals for • ny preCeding . yedr, and on a 'comparative 'lieu'', .ek ,spp redttfat thetcoininittals I . & poaching during the . last 1 't'eed hy,S . ici• 006', the' committals for the last six yeara. ..He d' found that within - th'e last few years all crimes hail ipci'dirtaed;'btitihat the crime bf poaeliing had increased in bily' more than .and` other: ' In a part of the country in which he pos,..T.sed someproperty, he meant the northern part of Wiltshire, out of two hundred and 'thirty-four ' prisoners confined in the House of Correction for va rious offences during 1827, one hundred were i!onfine4 for a violation of the Game Laws. To go to the nrighbouring .county of Hampshire, by means of comparison:between the increase of crimes of that nature, for each of the years, 1810, 1811, and 1812, the number -of committals to the House of Correction, for poaching, was 20, whereas the average for the last three years amounted to 297 ; in other - words, there was an increase of not lees than 1,000 per rent. But their Lordships would be taking a narrow view of the case, if they snpposed that they could judge of the inc eased crime by the ccirnparative amount of committals ftir poaching, one year with another, because it afforded a great nursery for_ other crimes.---(Hear.)—The person who habituated' himself :to . poaching, naturally became familiarised with a disrespect for his country, a disregard for the laws, and with midnight depredations, and was often Went to make extensive havoc in disturbing the peace-of . socien in order • to .prove which, he would instance- the4ase- of. the two adjoining counties of Bed fordshire and.. - Ifuntingilonshire, the fortner of whiCh contained a. pepulation of 93,000, and thelatter 0f53,800. lie found that Bedfordshire produced six times the amount of. general crimes, and three times the amount of poach ing of the othersatinty, which afforded an instance of the increase of other crimes working their way by means of this. He wished to state one .other fact.—A short time. ago, there was a great quantity of base coin circulated thri ugh the country, which . caused many of the most active and intelligent Magistrates to endeavour by every means to find out_whence the origin of so great a circula tion arose, and it was at last discovered, that the whole of . the money had been . taken by poachers from persons engaged' in distributingit, in order to circulate it through the country ; few his own part, he knew- of no species of crime so dove-tailed into another-as that of poaching. The present mode of bringing such offendera . to justice: appeared to him defective; lie found that almost., every attempt at justice was counteracted,. .either by prejudicing the Judge or July, er by some other unfair meant,. , Such -a state of things, -he thought could not exist; it reminded him of the woods of a beautiful author, why descrtlied penalty and crime running a race ; the one pursuing the other until penalty, not being able - fo overtake its- rival, crime turns round and attacks its breathless pursuer. In fact, he was convinced .that some alteration should be made, and, considering . - that the Bill introduced by. his Noble. Friend would in its operation be .attended with general be nefit, he wasinxious to give it all the support in his tower. Lord MALMESBURY replied.. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE considered that no practice couldl?e.rnore - injurious than that of paying wages from alie Poor Rates: - - 11 their Lordships would compare the sir counties u which this was practised, with any other six counties„ they would find that crime was 80 per cent. greater there than in all England. . The Marquis of SALISBURY thought that- legalising the sale of game would provide the market, without-crime, which must be provided at all events. He thought his Noble Friend ought , to suffer the report to he brought up without opposition, and he might propose or object to what clauses he thoggist _peopesr , - Lord WHARNCI f IFFE swji that although his Noble Friend had niiiied . 'with him, he seemed rather afraid of connecting "himself ,too cbsely ; he thought he was anxi; ous to slip the collar. It was better for him to marry him, thanremein single:all his life.:-;-(Laughter.) Lord ,SALI4BURY replied, ,Lord GODERICH rose in support of the Bill. lialwith-• standing what had been said of. the sale of game, he had reason to know that a great quantity of game was publicly sold. One individual had last year sold 19,006 head of game. He appealed -to their Lordships whether it was fit.to maintain a law,- which it was acknowledged could never be carried into effect, He considered the clause of. his Noble 'Friend would have the effect of diminishing poaching, by giving a greater number of persons an in tetest in suppressing it. He thought the Noble Lord (Malmesbury) was in error in the causes which produced the crime, for there were some in the South of. England who resorted.to poaching "filom want of employment. In the part of the country in which there was the greatest number of poachers; they *ere of a very differentrclass. , — principally manufacturers, who earned from 18s.' to 208. a week. He concurred in what his -Noble Friend had said of the moral evil which existed, and thought it absolutely necessary tntitice'Some measure to get rid of 'it. The Howie them .divided - on the question whether the Report should be received— Contents 5 4 ,- , Non-contents - 29 Majority . ' , • • —25 When we were re-admitted; we found' thititri amend merit was put and carried, On the ;motion of Marquis of SAirsiusty, that the Words " - From - whom, and upon what day the game was ptirchased," should be introduced into one of the clauses. • • • It was thenearried, that ' the 'Bill should 'be engrossed and read a third time on - blandly next. , • - ' • NIGtIT POACHING. . -'' -"' '.. Lord WHARNCLIFFE moved the Order of the day for referring thellill for the prevention of Night.Poaiihing:to a Committee. Me . shonld only detain theirPidiships,hy explaining his views for - proposing this Bill mid 'altering the present laws, By the Act entitled 'Battles's Act, any person found at night With arms in his handi, fokhe pur-: pose of poaching, was liable to be brought before 'a jury, tried for a misdernianour; and, if cOnViited, transported for seven years. The conseveni!e Was; that there wasgreat , difficulty - in convicting, as the jury were very justly un willing to impose so heavz s nonishinentfer what might in most 'cases 'be a cOMParatwely'trivial iiFfence. ' A person was likewhe'subjeetin the same.puniabrnen r. for the. first transgression, as one mho was an old offender. What' his Bill Proposed was, "that 'any person found armed at night, should for the first nffence:be brought before a Magistrate and confined fur three months, and be' obliged to find security for . his ' good behaviour fora year; "for the. second, that he should .he . confined six . -toonth4' and find security- for two years ; and one the repeti tion of the crime, that he should be liable - to be tried for a misdemeanour, and transported - for seven years. It might, perhaps, be objeCted that in the Southern parts of England, it would 'be aifficOlt to procure security. He knew, from his own experience, that in the North nothing' was more Casy, and they had no difficulty in finding a re lative or friend for that purpose. Indeed he thought it very natural that as . the greater number,of poachers were young men, who entered ' en - the ociitiPitiort without in tending any harm, , when they found: that their friends were to be in jeopardy if they repeated it, they would aban don it He thought that when an individual had been ' guilty of the crime fora third time, there was no..lury that could feel any reluctance in 'convicting. The Bill likewise provided, that even on the first commission of the crime, if the pereon found with arms should use them against those who attempted to apprehend him, that lee should be liable to • be -convicted of misdemeanour, and transported for seven years ; and if more than- three per 'sons acted conjointly, that they should be considered guilty of felon;', and transported fOr fourteen years. Ile was not particular as to the number, perhaps it might be better to make it five than three. His object was to put down those who assembled. in ' gangs, and who spread so much alarm through'the country, that all the: resident gentlemen were obliged to abandon .it: The Noble Lord concluded by saying, that he had no wish to press his ;Bill upon the. House, tad should leaVe the Matter to the discretion, of their Lordships. . . The Marquis of• SALISBURY agreed with his Noble Friend that a' man should not be 'punished so severely for the first offenee as for a repetition of the crime. He thought, however, that tho Dill carried the distinction too far. Hehelieved that the Security of whieh his Noble •_,Friend had spoken, could not be produced in the so uthern counties. He should propose (though not at present) that the first commitment should be six months, the. second a year, and the third be was willing should be as it at pre sent *di. 'His' Noble Friend had proposed that the of fender should have his choice of Courts ; for his own part, he did not See why such'an indulgence should be extended to his crime in preference to any other. The next.. to which he should allude was, the number of persons that should be collected to constitute a felony ; he thought two were as likely to commit an outrage as three or four, and more frequently. He ahOuld, therefore, move that two be 'the ntimber instead of three. ' ' 'The Earl of CARNARyiON did not agree with the Noble Lord, that 'the penalties for the first offences Were too sjandl, Hg likewise considered, that it would not be so di'ficult to find security as the Noble Lord 'seemed, to 'apprehend. He thought, any additional severities , would another OhjeCt in view. He thought itlianild be betterreudkr the law . absolutely intolerable. . lie had, however , for a young man to be obliged to' serve the King, than to remain so many months in gaol. He knesi that many connected with the army had an objection to adinit cul prits:intO the ranks, but he did not think those objections held good with regard to poachers, as; in the Commit. 7 , ment l at least, the same degree of turpitude was not con ! ., nett With this e s with other crimes. They were in gene eil ral y ung men of spirit, who embarked ii} the occupation I : from a dislike to lahour, and a habit of roving, and ter ' and ould make • i tainl there ,were..' many who were •unfit for ploughmen, very good sOldiqs- This, he thought , [ cool net . , take from the character of . the army, while , it Iv • ' Woul prevent those young men front ' going. back from gaol,l and then, for Want of Occupation or •other" causes: engaging perhaps iu much worse practices; Withregaril .... *the Noble Lord's proposal of- inflicting the more severe penalty on those who went out together to the number of two, poachers did not go out in thit number for the pur pose of resistance; but of convenience, one to carry the gun, and the other the bag to receive the game. Indeed, he (Lord Carnarvon) had known of few instances in which they had offered resistance, or used theii arms against those who went to apprehend them. If, however, more than two associated it might be reasonable to suppose that it was their intention to resist. Lord TENTERDEN proposed the'omission of the Word " poaching" in one of 'the clauses ;oil the Bill. He had often, he said, heard the word fi';om the lips of Noble Lords in that House, but he never saw it in an Act of rarlia ment, and he saw no region foi introducing it as a term in legal language, especially-as-the clause went on to say, " or unlawfully destroying tame."' Lord WHARNCLIFFEiasd no objection-to the omission of the word " poaching: moseconfess, howiever, tint he shoidd like to see the lermirn an Act , . of Pailiarnent,Vat, pomlliing might-be better understood throughout the coun try as a criminal offence, He did not agree with the. Noble Lord opposile (ihe Marquis of Salisbury) that the distinc tion in puni•ahment ,betweenthnse who-went out poaching in numbers, and those who wentnut singly, or by twos, was not material. After a few words from Lord -DACRE, .the AlarqUis of SALISBURY, Lord CARNAAVON, ind Lord- TIWITRDPN, the period of punishment on the tread mill, and foe -sureties to be given, was altered from six to three montlii.,‘ ; Some verball9iendments were then adopted, which were ordered to be ptuaied.- - : • PENRYN DISFRANCHISE TENT BILL. The examination of wit nfases waa . renewed, and lasted until Ten o'ClOck, when their Lordships adjoutned. HOUSE. OF COMMONS, Mir 6, , • T General GASCOYNE moved the third reading of the I.iverForl Decks Bill ; which 'was agreed to, and the Bill was passed. , • ' • : Sir G. HILL moved, that the Chancellor of the chequer, Mr. liuskisson„ Mr. C. Grant, and the Members for London, Liverpool, Bristol, awl all the Members for Ireland, be added.to the Committee upon the Hibernian Joint Stoek Company Air. GRATTAN opposed the Bill, and contended that the object of the motion was to introduce into the Committee' parties who were interested in i 4 decision. He, for his own part, thought that the Irish Members aught to be excluded. • . y"u a Sir .1. NEWPORT was 49 opposed,tp_thenuitiOn. Mr. S, RICE was also oppwed io the 'Motion, as being unjust in principle. After a few'whilla from Mr. B. CIARE and Mr. DA VENPORT, the gallerywas cleared for a division; but none took place, and the motion was negatived. Mr. LlDrlELL , tnoved' the third reading of the Bill for improving the lands in the neighbourhood of Weldon, near Wisbeacls, in thelsleof Ely. The Bill was read a third time and passed. Mr. DUNCOAIBE presented a petition against the 'Aire and Calder Navigation Bill .from `the Earl of Cardigan, and other parties to be of thereby. On the motion Mr. CIIAPLIN, the Grimsby Roads' Bill was read a third time and passed. On the motion of Lord WM. PAULETT, the Tees Navigation. Bill was read a third time and passed. Sir GEORGE ROBINSON said that :he had Some time since presented a petition from the inhabitant Dis senters of Northampton, in favour of general toleration, and he had now a petition from the; same place, praying that such alterations may be made in the laws affecting the Roman Catholics, as will put them in possession of their civil rights.. Colonel BARNARD presented two petitions from Ire land,in favour of the Catholic Claims. Mr. SYKES presented a petition from the Attorneys of Hull, relative to clauses in the ,Bankrupt Laws ; al.o a petitioniroM the members of the York.shire.Fire and Life Insurance Company,,praying for a 'reduction of the duty upon insurances. Mr. C. COOPER presented petitions from Protestants in three towns in county of Sligo, against any further concessions ,to the Catholics. • • Sir E. HARVEY presented a petition' froth the Mayor' and Aldermen of the town of Saffron-Malden,' against further concession to the;Catholies ; also a similar petition from the inhabitant's of Saffron-Walden. Lord 'MILTON' presented petitions from the Merchants and Manufacturer* in •the Woollen Trade,' at Bradford . and fourteen other places in ;Yorkshire, against the imposition of any duty upon 'Foreign Wool. . Mr. S. WORTLEY presented petitions from. the Roman Catholics of Brannby, and Whitby, in Yorliahire, in favour of the Roman Catholic Claims. • • Sir E. KNATCHBULL presented petitions froni the Clergy of the Diocese of. Canterbury, of the _inhabitants 'of Margate, Shoreham. Hullingstone, and• sixteen other places in Kent, against the Roman Catholic Claims. Mr. BASTARD presented similar petition 'from Tor .. rington and Little Hampton in Devonshire. Alderman WOOD moved• for returns of malt imported into England from Scotland and Ireland, from 1823 th'the year 1828. The Narquis of CHANDOS presented a petition from Winslow, in Buckinghamshire, Against the Roman. Catholic Claims. Sir M. W. RIDLEY presented a petition front the Ro man Catholics of Stamford, in favour of the Roman' Ca tholic Claims. ' Sir 111. W. FIIDLAY moved, for returns of the drawback 3! paid up,on.Glass eNported from England. to .Iroland; . and other parts of , the world, from 1825 to 1628. • Mr. M. FITZGERALD (Knight of Kerry) presented two petitions from the:Ronorn Catholics of Killarrier'—one against the Vestry Act, and the, other in favour of the Ro lhaft Catholic 'Mr. DICKINSON, presented a . petition from the Woollen ManufaCturers of Sornersetshirej against.the iia position of a duty %mow Foreign= Woof: e • - MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS. • A Messenger from the Lords announced that their Lord ships had agreedtoaeveral Bills. Lord JAMES STUART presented a petition from the Roman Catholics of Monmouth, in favour of the Roman Catholic Claims. Mr. DAWSON presented the Miscellaneous Estimatei for the-current year,' which were ordered to be plaited. Mr. JOHN WOOD presented a petition from The Me 44ical Students - resident in Preston, Lancashire,. praying the House to take measures to facilitate the study 'of anatomy. —Ordered to lie on, the table, and be referred to the Select Committee on that subject. Mr. R. MARTIN presented a petition ,frotb Plymouth against the Friendly-Societies Bill.—Referred to the Com mittee on the sill._ _ Mr. WILMOT HORTON presented a petition from the weavers of,Hamilton, praying for aid to emigrate.— Ord.red to lie oa the table. CANADA, Mr. WILMOT HORTON rose to present a petition, from certain Presbyterian - Seceders in Canada, as we: understood, respecting grants of land, in doing which te said lie wished to take the present opportunity'of ad dressing to the House a few words of 'explanation which, as it related to a matter purely pelsbnal, he silent' feel bound to compress' within as narrow a compass as possible. lie had heard that some of the observations which he let fall on a late occasion, when speaking of the Union Bill 'of 1822, were supposed to refer to Mr. Ellice, the late Mem ber for Coventry, in a manner' considered disrespectful to ' wards that gentleman. Certainly, do language of his could, with truth or justice, be supposed to refer to Mr. Ellice— at least, of this he felt perfectly satisfied, that'nothing of the strong language int 6 which, during the - Warinth of debate, he might have been betrayed, , was intended to bear the slightest allusion to'the charactft or conduct of Mr. Ellice. Sir J. MACKINTOSH.—As the explanation given by the Right Hon. Gentleman had' reference to an occasion, in which he (Sir J. Mackintosh) was'somewhat concerned, he wished to know Whether the strong language - in question applied . was aieo to him or to any other person. Mr. W. HORTON could assure the Right Hon. Gen tleanan opposite, 'very distinctly, that no language, of his was it any time , or c ould be, meant disrespectfully to , wards him (Sir J. Mackintosh), and I (continued the Right' Hon.; Member) went to hitn on the occasion referred to, and told him that if he chose 1 was perfectly willing at the moment to qualify what I had said. My : opinion al ways'hati been that thiallotoie is not the Plate - for strong language:. (Hear, hear.) If • occasions arise dernanding' such,; there are abundant opportunities out of doors without occupying the attention of this House in a manner so Un'pro fitable. However, since- ie has been supposed that 'lan guage of mine bore tilinn - '"ifie diameter and •condttot of Hon. Members in, a manner qtilte :opposite to my real in tentidns, I feel called upon to enter into a somewhat more. "detailed explanation than 'would, under different circum stances, be at 'all necessary, and before entering on' it feel it due, in justice to the Right Hon. Gentleman oppo site, to declare my present conviction; that one of the Armes used by me on thatocCasion was quite inapposite—, I mean in the allusion I made to the Union Bill. ' What I complained of was this, thati bad had full reason to ittp 7 pose that the Right Bon. G e ntleMan'enposite would have given his support to the Union itill. Lip to the very boor at which it was broughtlorWaid' I had every reason to' be lieve he would It4Va . supported the hilt It was of this that complained—it was under this impression that I all along laboured. Now, if he admits there, was some ground • for this persuasion on my part, then, of course, I can have nothing to explain or qualify. If it turn nut that lam in error, I shall be most happy to acknowledge my mis take—more than a misapprehension it cannot be in any quarter. Sir J. MACKINTOSH uttered a few sentences in a tone quite inaudible in the gaUery, and then proceeded : On the occasion to which the Right Ron.- Gentleman re fers, I mesa en Friday night, I confess I did not hear from him a single expression ef the harsh nature which has _b een attributed... and which is well known to be so incon sistent wit l h,histtsnal manner. On, that very occasion the Right' Hon. Gentleman, came to me and offered to.make! the qualifications of which he, has spoken ; and I, smiling, observed, that it was perfectly needless, thinking he merely referred the general explanation, given on similar..occa-' bionic. na me ly, th a t hil,was hetrayed into the l a ng uage - he had used during thOeite"Of - tiebate. • r 1 thought, as I think still, that language, rfiereikPi4c!ieding from the excite m ent •Of the mome n t,' requires no such explanation amongst Gentlemen Whd Proceed upon the understanding which, ' 4 l trust,- genetally prevails In this (louse.. As I have entered upon this suhject, shall take the liberty of saying a few words with respect to the ccindOct of a, Gentleman now absent=l mean the forther Member for Coventry.— In the interviews whiCh I had ;6th - that Gentleman, as -well those which had with him alone, as in the presence of other respectable ,personi, .1 never once swerved' from a declaration of my intention to offer to the Bill of 18e2 the most decided resistance.— That Hon.' Gentle Man was as warmly the advocate of the Bill as I was its opponent, and .he labehre& very Strenu ously to 'induce me to adopt his views, but I uniformly persisted in my declaration that I would oppose the In doing this, however, I was most anxious to soften my refusal by every possible courtesy .e of manner—at the same time, that I intended, and . an,far ,as my recollection can give assurance; r distinctly stated My intention of adhering to my original determination, and never did I depart 'from that. In justice to the late Member for Coventry, it is only right I should say, that I know him to be as incapable of intentionally misrepresenting' any matter 'whatsoever, as I know myself to be incapable of receding from' any en gagement which I had once formed. The only mode by which I can account for the misapprehension is, by sup.; piing that the late Member for Coventry was led tb hake the representation lie did to the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite, ; or, if he will still allow me to call him so,' to' my Right Hon. Friend-4 say, Sir, that the MeMber for Coventry waa induced to snake this representation to hini in consequence of taking my civility of manner in a sense which I was far from intending at all events, he must be' entirely acquitted of any thing like misrepresentation. I don't know that it is necessary for me to say any thing further on this subject. Mr. W. 11011 TON-My statement was this, that six weeks before the discussion in question;Alr..Ellice told me that I might expect the support of the Right Ifni'. Gentle man opposite. I have nothing to do with what took place afterwards. I had merely to state the facts is they cams under my observation. I made no accusations 'against the Right Hon. Gentleman. I never intended any. sie J. - MACKINTOSH —I should have thought that. enough was already said upon a Misunderstanding of this nature. I shall, therefore, merely state, that it is Per feedy true, that a cepy of the Bill was shewn to me, and read by me amongst a variety of other papers, and it must have been as. I have already said, that the Member for CoventrY mistook mere civility. of manner for assent, to his representations. I certainly said, that.tbe conditions of the Union Bill were advantage Mis to the English settlers,, but I saw no reason for departing from the original reso lution I had expreSsed on the subject. It might be, that the late- Member for Coventry understood what I then said, in a much larger sense than I intended. My Right lion. Friend opposite, seems alsO to misunderstand me. I did not treat the Bill of 1822 as peculiarly his measure. He was merely:thetrepresentative of the Colonial flovern h merit. . I 4o:not censure himor.the Noble Lord who VMs . the organ of Government in this House at the time the Bill was proposed.• I merely considered that they took an erroneous view of the subject at. the time ; P thought so en Friday, and I think so still. . . After at few words from Mr. LABOLtellilig and Mr. A. BARING, the petition was brought up and ordered to lie on the table. : , . , ' (. 1 Lord MOUNTCHARLES ,presented a petition from Donoughtnore; in favour of the Catholic Claims.:—Ordered to be printed: • Admiral SOTIIARON presented similar petitions from Nottingham and Kinnegad.—Ordered to lie on the table. ADMIRALTY COURT.—PLURALITIES OF LIVINGS (IRELAND). Sir J. NEWPORT postponed until Tuesday fortnight his notice of motion " to consider the state of the Admi ralty Court (Irelr.nd)." The Right Hon. Baronet also fixed for the same day his. motion for " a Bill to limit.and restrain the granting dispensations or faculties for holding pluralities of livings in Ireland ; and fur confining the power of uniting Parishes therein to the Lord-Lieutenant and Couna." CATHOLIC CLAIMS, Petitions against any farther concessions to the Roman Catholics were presented by . Mr. Legge, from. Banbury ; by Sir T. Lethbridge, from the Clergy of Taunton, in the diocese of Bath and Wells ; by Mr. Alderman Thompson, from= the Clergy incorporated in Sion College'; by the Chancellor . •of •the Exchequer, from Grange, in the county' Armagh ; and by • Mr: Secretary Peel, from the Clergy of Manchester; also, a second petition from the Bi s h o p of ti m er'' , and the Clergy of that diocese. Petitiosis•in faypur of the Roman Catholic Claims,were preeented by Mr. Littleton, from the town of Stafford and from the parish of Stone, and from Stourbridge ; and by •Mr. Slaney,'from' ACton-burnell, Shropshire. 'PAROCHIAL SETTLEMENTS (SCOTLAND). 'Mr. KENNEDY presented petitions froth - Glasgow, and Eflinhu'rgh, in favour of settlement by residence! ' CURTEIS presented a petition froin the .owhers' . and Occtipiers of Land frequenting , Hailakii&marliet, in the county of Sussex, against' the Bill for the regulation of the price of corn. Mr. G. BANKES gave notice of his intention to-morrow to present a•pctition.from. the freemen of East Retflird; lative to the proceedings in Parliament with regard to their privileges, • • • • • ' • LAND-TAX COMMITTEE. • .." On the motion of Mr. G. BA NKEg,' the following Members were added to the Land-Tax Committee : —Mr. G. Lamb, Mr. Littleton, and'llfe. Chichester. 1 - .- •' ' STAMPS. Mr. HUME presented i petition from fifty-two of the principal houses engaged hi the Stationery trade in Londnn on the subject of the Bill ' nowin progress kelative to Stamps, and praying, that in the event of. the Bill being. 'agreed to, the clause for the repeal of the existing allow, once to dealers in Stamps be struck out. The petitiOneii complained that the Bill, if passed into a law in its present state, would interfere With their reasonable profits without any benefit being conferred on the p ublic b y the change.. • ' h Without going the length o f agreeing the stateme n t s orthepetitioners, lie thought the present Bill inadequate to effect the object Which should be held in view in any alter mby u l: np l oi i t n nt i ee s e t , : rimfs more aoattetientifac... bringing o n 'ation of the' pent system. No benefit could arise, from partial measures the . , Whole subject of the Stamp Acts was one which , reqUired' iniestigatiOn: , There had teen P : r re ' s u y e4 st ' e allowed to distributoM or ',damps in the last years sum of 71,3431. In England,loar . per cent . t aus allowed to the dealer; in Scotland ' and Ireland six per cent. He again obaervi b n e g , a t that he to t o h: v m e g , h l t h i e t forward a partial' inad;trglingmeasitre, instead of making deprecated the t t l o ie p t o ,o t n ,t t h lu e c . t e.ti f w tt re un d p ii oss ia ib a le ti th t a ii t e th s e ub lil ee n t a , nc ,in e i C g o 4 m t. tori . footing, and concluded,by country a suns of thirty or . forty thousand• . in this department. . pounds department. ' The petition having .been brotight•up, • Sir J; NEWPORT wished to know Why, the. infornia ' thin solong expected relative to the stamp departMent in Ireland - ,:and, he might add, the state of the oat-office in the same country, bad not been afforded? He was appre-, hensive that • such measures might only have the effeq of prechiding the House from adopting others of a , More.ge nerriliand beneficial tendency. • T -- ,‘ •'- Th i s CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER 3 mild be of himself if his conduct afforded the'llightest ground fir the supposition ' that any measure which k' bionglit for Ward was'lnerely intended to divert public at tention from others of a - More general and useful character. Sir J, NEWPORT explained,' that 4 1e , I' l lo not in tended to impute the : slightest blame to the Right Hem Gentleman. • , The petition was then ordered to lie on the t a ble . Mr; HUME presented a petition frOrn a place 'in Scot land', ihe name of which did not reach the gallery, against • the registration of prisoners in gaols in Scotland • - ' After an obserVation from the Loan Anvoc ATE , i t was ordered to . lie on the table. V . to amend . -' The LORD ADVOCATE . brought a .. , Bill . the laws relating to the building and Management -of Gaols in' Scotland, and the V registration' of the prisoners confined thereir. , • ' . - ' rt was read a first time, and ordered to he read a second thire - ou Monday tieit; and in lie printed. Mr, HUME moved for 'returns o f t h e quan tity — of liritisl ) Woollens of -.every description ; and of Woollea- iTitl yarn, exported from the sth i . - fiat January, 'lB2B. • Mr. 'SLANEY preaented a petition ;from !II Cr)! Society in. Whitchurch, - Shropshire, 'against the . Referred to the Committee enthaßill. IL GRATTAN moved for a Return-of the 90 : of monmilaced at the disposal of . the L or d LientoUnot 4 ' Ireland during the last four years, on acoOnnt of Work*, in 'viand ; together -with , an account of` itsf . to" 'ner in which they had been applied.—Ordered. LAW OF FRAUDULENT DEVISES., Mr. SUGDEN rose for the . pnrposeof moving for.lea" to bring in a Bill to amend the A.ct of .the..Sd William 1 01.4 Mary, ,chap. 14, cc for, the reli e f of creditegs against .0 0 " dulent devises," apd. , ..a. similar . Act of the Atth Anne, obsP: A 5, raised hi , the Irish Parliament. The law be,preptoov to alter was, that of the .9d of William and Mary,. cap,o. l4 ' and the 4th of Anne,'cap.,s,, on. the subject of fraudttle°' devises. In consequence 0f the statute of.willa,-it ,was .hei° l that though if an heir succeeded to an estate,-he waaliable for the debis Of his ancestor, yet if a man devised his estate to 61zr other party than the heir, then the devisee enjoyed. the estl st without being liable' for the engagements. ef his predetee sor. The •defeet was in part remedied bythq.. ) ,A.ct of VI I : Liam and, Mary, and he now proposed to .reorler iherttne o ; more complete. The object of the statute.of,William Mary t iO Was to place the devisee in the s ame s it na ti o nian in which' theheir would have stood, had he succeeded" the property. But . the Act was not complete—it did Do! Pidvide for'the of their being no heir; it only allevre an action to be brought against the devisee and the heir , He wished to enable the creditor to go . agaliat 'the deviser.) even though there should he no heir: :Again, with Lre l spect to specialty (bonds or covenants) the Act of Willisru , and,Mary had , been held .to apply only to.boini d r elet,fPf covenants, and that under .particular circumstances • O r ' suppose the: oi case of a man who sells an e st a t e to well knowing at the time ethat-he had a bad title, and OP he gets 100,000/. flir it, covenanting that . he- convey' geodiitle; Well; the vendor dies, leavinga large real an& the purchaser 44,6 . 4 that be has got a bad Seller has ilevise4 avi#,,,thcfprOperty.of . *bielkl i o pdsSeseed,.to an utter - siranger, , the stranger sets the.po' !chastr`of the estate with 'the. bad title completely at dy !fiance. Wein him the purClitetei., can have no reiii.4l , though if . the heir of the:vender ; had . held:, his property, he_would have been liable under the proviaioo of the covenant agreed' ori bettveen thepartiee. He (Mi. S.) 'now proposed ',to pia the:devisee: ix the same *411 149 ' as that in• which; the,: heir would stand In , thi. vespelt The Hon.. an t i farmed gentleman ttlietiiproceeded - I" advert to the labours of the late, Sir Samitelißomilly oa this subject, and added that in doing so he found 1 ` impossible' Ala repress a feeling of a dmiration for •til l character 4-that great man, mingled with one of ur feigned. regret for the loos sustained by. his death. The je t of Sir Samuel Romilly's ,Act, was .uudoubtedly to: es.° • a great accumulation of Chancery suits, and to stop' suitors at the very threshold, with the piestionas to wbe: ther the man was or was not a trader at the time of death. In framing this Bill, he proposed to repeal the tf a former acts,' and also the: Irish Act, which was that of . William. and Mary, in order that one Act shin , embody the whole, If any one considered him Oppoinklt o a beneficial alteration of the laws ,: that individual itse '0 0 '; taken. No one was more willing-to reform thelawaf he would reform them by, discarding what was unnecesssri 3., Al IT, DI 41 Et 0 F, 0 G c • 0 v kornilitc • 1 1 wii —he would look to the substance and not to the fortna•-1 Much had been said about the Commission, and he cold': inform the House, thatopon that commission he-would (3°' be. He would cheerfully give all the information in h>' power, but would interfere. in no other way. He woIP d have no one upon that Committee who was wedded t°,l system, or a decided enemy to all reform,.but he wo; have those upon it who were acquainted with the sub?' on which they were employed. • • The, Hon. and Learned Member then moved for to bring in a Bill to further the facility of payment of deb' out of Real Estates. • Mr. WALLACE expressed his approbation of the coup pursued by the Hon. and Learned Member. Mr. HUME observed, that although great credit 0 9 due to the Hon. and Learned Member for the course b e had adopted, it was to be wished that he had gone sate what further in his plans of reform. Leave was then given to bring in the Bill. Mr. MOORE obtained leave to bring in a Bill .to'prt° • tect purchasers for valuable consideration, in Ireland, fr'l judgments not revived or redo c k e t e d Within a limit' tirne.—(Hear.) Mr. W. LAMB obtained leave to bring in a Bill t° repeal the Irish Acts relative to Bail, Benefit of gee; Larceny, and Malicious Injurieei , tio ) .PrOperty. The 1111 : - „ Hon. Gentleman also obtained- leave lo.bring in arii ll l a . the improvement of the Administration of Criminal Justic e in Ireland. . On the motion of Mr. S. RICE, the Order of the Dll for the Committee on the Rights of Executors' Bill „w° postponed to Monday next. PAROCHIAL SETTLEMENT (SCOTLA VD) 131 . L L, Mr. KENNEDY moved thefurther consideration of the Report on the Parochial .Settlement (Scetland) . Bill, Mr. ESTCOURT said, the whole of his opposition, to the sill amounted to this—he could not connive on what principle foreigners could not gain a settlement i. Scotland, in less than seven years, when in England it it cdattined in a much shorter period. His object was to ag a iilate as much as possible, the laws of the Empire, and ootnake a particular law applicable to a particular part. Mr. FERGUSSON said, that to assimilate the l'°•• Laws it would be necessary to assimilate others. 1 _ . , 116 laws of Scotland and England differed materially to a'ar i '": wayS. It was act generally known that there were „„ Laws in Scotland—such, however, was the fact 'were seldom miorted to, because of the feelings of 11 1 7 pride of the inhabitants of that country. He did ° a consider seven years too long a period to gain a settlervent, Mr. MAXWELL said, the object of the Bill was, ' 1° t to deprive of assistance those who required it, but becit'p e in the country whence low-priced labourers came, there cevii no system of Poor Laws. • , Sir EDW. KNATCHBULL disapproved of ifse, 1 3 "' Mr. HUME supported the Bill, as did t Mr. FERGUSSON, who contended that it 41 5 na . intended, as had been argued by some Hon. Members, el: measure of harshness against the unhappy persons te'a crowded to Scotland from Ireland in search of food and employment. Sir J. NEWPORT commented strongly upon the course sought to be adopted against his unfortunate couti trymen. At first, their labour was accepted with avidit: ( ' but now, when the British population was suffering P r tially from want of employment, the poor Irish laboured'. was to be m e t w i t h all species of harsh treatment I°d enactments. The influx of Irish poor, and their attenW ts to settle here, were now the great topics of complaint, bat none was uttered against the influx and the permanent re sidence here of the rich Irish—(Hear)--the owners of the soil of Ireland, who drew from that unh a ppy co untry, a nd spent here, among British tradesmen, and on British ma nufactures, Upwards of 3,000,0001. annually, a tom. whic"' if, as it ought to be, spent at borne, would prevent the e e cessity for that emigration, to complain of.which was p° 9/ so much the fashion.—(Hear; bear.) The Right Hoe., Baronet then drew a mm lanchoiy picture of the state of Ireland, where poverty had become so universal, that ° I the period when the benevolent of this country raised a noble subscription to relieve the perishing people of lr' land, there were several districts of that ill-fated c ountry in which no person could be found to whom the Committ ee could safely entrust the distribution of the portion of the fund allotted far the relief of those districts. Mr. KENNEDY defended the Bill. Mr. TRANT was convinced that at no very distant 4 1 4 the House would hare to consider the necessity of apPlY ln ! some system of Poor Laws to Ireland. The Hon. Merrib e • concluded by e xpressing his doubts of the correctness of th e Right Honourable Ba r onet's (Sir J. Newport's) stately ( ' t respecting the e xtent of distress in Ireland. Sir J. NEWPORT knew Ireland quite as well as - 1 the Hon. Member who spoke last, and indeed better--• (Hear) —and would re -assert Ids statement, which did I ° l rest merely on his own observation, but on the authari t Y of the Honourable Member for Midhurst (Mr. P ba S m ith), who had b een t h e Ch a i rman of the Irish Bel i ef COM mit tee. —( "fear, hear. ) The report was then agreed to, and the Bill ordered t a be read a third tim e on Monday next. The report of the Committee on the Justiciary C° llr , t l Bill ordered Bill was brought up and agreed to; and t h e ordered to be read a third time on Monday next. The Cities' and Boroughs' Poll Bill passed through II Committee. On the clause that the time of polling be limited to sib days, Mr. ROBINSON opposed the limitation, as tending abridge the rights of voters. After some words from Sir JOHN SEBRIGHT, the Al' 'FORNEY-GENF:II.AL, Mr. WHITMORE, and Colonel. Sit r „, Titoityr., the House divided. • Lul • For the original clause Against it 3O 7 am, Majority The Report was received, and ordered to be taken je t " a o Nto i Ntt; further consideration on Monday next. . The Irish Juries Bill was read a first time, on the 1 30 ' tion of Mr. LAMB. fl Laws , The Bankrupt Laws Amendment Bill was read a seat' Y, 1 time, and ordered to be committed on Friday next. The Report on the Irish Linen 'Manufactories Bill ~~~ J ~` r t 144 ve 0 143 rt ) 1 1 0 jt et '~ d