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That thi s work is of genuine Irish manufac titre, no reader can d ou b t f ur aa instant, fir its Ter`'' title -page is a bull, and • a bull of the richest tliberniart quality. It purports to be " A Book Lt a Name," and yet to this anonymous pub lication are prefixed the names of its joint an ti ors, Sit. Cl -- ar!es and Lady Morgan; while, in tmder that its anonymous character may be still Inure strictly preserved, we find, by way of fron liPieee, a half-le ngt h por t ra it o f Sir Charles himself whose frank, sunshiny countenance, is evidently chuckli ng with delight at the idea of 118 h aling so ingeniously outwitted the public, and maintained his anonymity ! If a good title- P a ge, as has b een o b serve d , i s h a lf th e secre t o f „ S,work's success, t h en t hi s " B oo k w ith ou t a 'l. "le' ova- unquestionably make a hit, for its itl e one of the drollest things we have In d et , w i th for ma n y a day. Nor does its • net stop he re , f or it a b oun ds in lively—and ot urt'equently witty—essays and sketches of ' ar acter, many of which, it seems, have al- A"j a(l Y appeared in p er i o di ca l publications. Lady „ wgatt leads off with a smart and clever essay the subj ‘et of ancient and modern cool;ery, a t he Course; of which she alludes, in terms of i ct iloing veneration, to the immortal Careme— grcatest culinary artist in Paris ; and, conse- Z e otly, in the world, who, on the overthrow of th aPoleon, was i nvited to preside over George _ rPeurth's kitchen, but soon quitted it in dis -1'71) because, as he justly observed, it was far , t „ olgar wad unscientific for a man of his tran i" edant genius ! Sir Charles Moran's " ace of of Punning" is an essay lo with and ingenious sophistry. We subjoin In stallce in point :—" How false is Pope's re 7 f s 4 rk th a t a li ttle learning is a dangerous thing !" ter a little Money dangerous or a litfle in or a little or es t with th e T reasury ? or a littl e health, t c temper, a little old wine in one's ear) or a little woman f ,or one's wife . fibgrcat deal o f some o f th ese goo d things b eard better than a little, yet who ever drink de e p, or t as te n ot,' applied in such d re e d s ? Methinks I see a man refusing a hun tiiiidPounds because it won't make him a Roths or rejecti ng th e m i s tress of his soul be terse s ,she is n o t s i x f ee t hi g h, an d a s round as a This is dexterously put; but Pope is tight n evertheless. " Anecdotes and Conversa it,olls. the Rev. Thomas Botherum" •is an 11 1 ;,,, i ta, l satire, in the form of a biographical cli; — ,, ; ( , 1 ”) of those grave, formal, High-Church tts - e a ries—a race now almost extinct—who 414,t1 wear enormous bushy wigs, large steel as I,,,.'"lleklocs, shapeless black coats, with pockets ahl 1 „ ,, y . of tithes, j g coal-Fucks, and whose talk was invari the Thirty-nine Articles, and the A• few of these clerical oddities still bf th e Isle) We believe, among the fens and solitudes by .of Ely, where they amuse themselves croaking in chorus to each other, like bur.- Itt o l , about the sufferings and humiliations of to t i"r Church ; but they are rarely seen 4 tb,. l e Civilis e d h aun t s o f lif e — an d no won d er , fl AQ, l "le y would certainly be stared at as 4 0rN Q ulena, and subjected, as such, to all oth,, ()1 ' persecutions. There are several ))u t amusing essays in these volumes, t)k b. , 4 ',.' have neither space nor time to notice h o . 1 0 detail ; so must conclude by expressing re s ,,,,,Pe„ that we shall ere long find Lady Morgan Vi v T a ul g her old vocation of novelist. We have `' recollection of her "O'Donnell," and her Hi tit °l ;ence Macarthy," and though we deny not Of r eal 1 is an agreeable essayist, yet the novel Yet Ilk is her peculiar forte ; and we are not ta ti l rich in clever writers of fiction, that we ,T° ll l to dispense with the services of one of e verest of the day. . • M r LIFE, BY AN EX-DISSENTER. The • Fraser, London, 1841. r e Is a one-sided spirit in this book which the more not recommend it to the favour of ~l -C hurchm en liberal and enlightened class of readers. jae,,, l- Churchmen and Tories, to whose pre be h , -- es it makes a strong appeal, will, no doubt, 16 - ` ll ell pleased with it, but those who are above eles-.Purblincl views of party, whether lay or Wh ri ni e al) will be apt to get disgusted with its as " esale attacks on the Dissenters. Regarded lit t i a literary production, the volume possesses 4e merit. ;14 7 ., ' OF NAPOLEON.—PART XXVI. Th Tyas, London; 1841. e labours of the author of this Life of Poleon are now drawing fast to a close, for IVi it h as reached the period of the battle of c - ,; e ,, t1 °0, an account of which decisive conflict '" l neneed in the present part, and will, we, 1 - 11 1) 14 144 'e) -- be - conclude in the next. Of all the th at e ,rons cheap Lives of the French Emperor ko. nay ,„ „ e appeared since his death, this, by Mr. th e Llussey, may deservedly take rank among iill l ,,ue . t) for the tone that pervades it is rigidly ol it ", r tial, and there are abundant proofs through 't that th e bi o grapher has consulted au a--,tic documents instead of contenting himself so many of his predecessors—with taking on mere hearsay. We could wish, how of 1. ; , that he had deferred less to the authority 1 0 ;"zlitt, whose opinions he is fond of quoting, 011 every subject connected with Napoleon, 111„ 1 . ()s e memory he idolized, notwithstanding he hp - t stilt Was a hater of despotism, Hazlitt is too t N i i to be carr i e d sway b y hi s prejudices; and tell s B er he meets with a strong fact that oft k against his pet hero, he either softens it tha t dint of ingenious sophistry, or, when 14 41 ' 4 [ 1 mA safe'y be done, dismisses it in a few ha s L e ar y words, as a ma tt er o f l ess momen t th an ,fi de en generally supposed. A sterling bona by h Life of Napoleon is yet to be written, and so c me Could such a task h e un d er t a k en w ith ip j;i propriety a s by C o l one l Napi er , w h o , Penis s uccinct and spirited " History of the flan nlsular War," has shown that he possesses °f the requisites for the task. 4.ORIAL SHAKSPEARE.- PART XXX. Ip PT inter' C Knight, London, 1841. th e pis Part is contained the entire play of ilpB Tale; together with an " Intro- Notice"---Las the Editor calls it—in which Intlnerous beauties of the drama are pointed much taste and perspicuity. The em and ii: . ments, as usual, are of superior merit, 44 i s ti e text is not unduly burdened with notes, t hat „ le ease with several editions of Shakspeare t lo b ' e i r e vogue several years ago. We have 11 ,s wilc't that, When completed, the work before "04 will be regarded as the standard edi . (4. our great dramatist's plays. e ve LI FE OF WILLIAM HUTTON. "rief ,"ave here, as the Editor observes in a r eface, " the history of a poor and most oy V° man who rose to opulence and eminence vn merits alone." William Hutton, who tiut,,Own. biographer, was a bookseller and sta ll'ar(K: ° f Birmingham, who died in 1815; at up -43f ninety years' of age, and recorded from 1 ,' 4 4 (- t A t ilne the events of his useful . and ho "vel.s.'"'e life, in a style remarkable for its attr . ac- N e -11°Plicitv. The work is a highly interesting injulcate s in every chapt er the bone "4o:al that honesty is the.best policy. LOl VI) ON. No. I. lti, C.'. Knight, London, 1841. ytb: P r eulature yet to pronounce an opinion e e ' l s Work, as t h e fi rst N um b er only has yet Rot - „ l "blished, b u t f rom th e g li m pse we - have I ttly„?)Ave should be disposed to augur favour (-'4/%.:'' its success, for it describes our great, Iv 'ts,'" r s, ( ' N 'l Babylon, not only as it is, but as it ‘ 4 'o ss ,-11" Y hundreds of years ago, when Charing tol-teas a village, and Holborn and its busy, 4 44 -us Il eighbArhood were a cluster of daisied tioQtsews through which wound—what pastoral th e 3,°11111 call—a "purling stream" from which ,e eet 1144, that rs uerives its name. The various wood sii; krnament the Number, are for the most executed. CONRAD TVALLENROD. • ,C on Fraser, Edinbur9h, 1841. 'atc, 114'1 Wallenrod is an historical poem, tra .. ns tc_ll4l°,,, English prose - by . Leon Jablonski, from .. ,'" )1 . 1 ad uls " 11 of Adam Mickiewicz. The poem . is ‘ 11 (1 s Z, on the . ancient struggles of Lithuania 44 as - We can judge from a translation,. ' 1 1 )1 Wt -; 11111 01 genuine feeling, and a patriotic Clit• 1 ,,. °1.01 37 of all commendation. In a neatly 48 Preface, we are assured that Mickiewicz itir,Qlkunder of a new school in Polish litera i)x,?,,nYviving " the ancient remini , :cences, - i v e le'rends, and the popular traditions t) rd , r nuI.r,"ANT M'Coam tctc.—A copy of the °Mc: f r March, 1840, granting a pen :: f t , he .)t u i nds r ceivA in Canada, has tel to p,rrij'Ai"or,„t. It appears that he is a l'' e j.7,cerl l ' eci called on by the Local Go_ Th. ll Lac',l,niserve in the attack on the steambo o s u t „d C . ar w ol h iu, 1 ,,,"° full e, he received several severe w _ a , limb ': th 3 ' end Permanently equal to the loss f . l l• l' Cr e Se NLj• sty ' Council settled on him ss. a • l'te tEW° " HOUSE.—The Earl of Harewood cell 'f,,c‘,r town the week of er Faster. The Hon. W. S. Las titw !L: , and Lady C r Lasceleg, left early . in the v e- - i"r town. Idy 8 1, ° 11 % . Cavendish and family a i r ; v,:oWednes.tay fitui A o sh s fo a rd Hall, Derbyshire. e rge Cavendish, M.P., will join his lady next week. , understand Lord Crewe is about to be I v '' i d t - T o.r i l At i l a l . t t 3tillOtl. Miss l_ittleton, eldest daughter of Lord votlat ts , N'ten, and sister of 9ie Countess of Cavan 411 d eNtrk. SOME ACCOUNT OF TILE NEW COMEDY. Sir Harcourt Courtly, of Stow-in-the-Wold, Was an Exquisite, upwards of sixty years old, And he wanted a wife, To plague out his life ( A very strange want for an elderly man, Whose love is at best but a flash in the pan) So he went to a friend, and he told him his case, Who replied, " I've a niece with a sweet, pretty face ; " She's brisk as a bee, " Has a plum in the Three " Per cents., and o'er2ows so with frolic and glee, " That she'll suit you, I'm sure, my old buck, to a T ; " So if you'll leave town " At once, and come down " To my seat at Oak Abbey, of sporting renown— " Where stretches for miles a magnificent park aw ay— " I'll splice you, as sure as my name is Max Hai kaway !" Sir Harcourt asented, and thought it an age 'Till he reach'd his friend's seat by the six o'clock stage; He was figged out in style, Wore a natty French tile, And smelt so of musk you might nose him a mile.— With a world of grimace He bowed to Miss Grace, Who no sooner caught sight of his si:rivel!ed cld face, Than she muttered, " Oh my Eyes, what a Guy !" While Max Hat kaway whispered in answer, " Oh fie ! Were he tall as a May pole, and lean as a rat, You should wed him, you saucy young baggage, that's fiat!" But there's many a slip 'Twist the cup and the lip, And 'twas fated Miss Grace should not wed such a rip, For while he was wooing, And billing and cooing With his sweet-heart, the Devil's own mischief was brewing; And wherever there's mischief, I've head people cry, A woman is certain—l cannot tell why— To have one whole finger at least in thepie I It chanced that at diaper Sir Harcourt, one day, Sate next to a dashing young Belie, Lady Gay, Who had lately dropped anchor Beside an old banker, And of course took her husband's queer surname of Sranker: She was wondrously witty, Coquetti-h and pretty, Could turn a man's head with an amorous ditty ; Could leap hedge and ditch, No matter which, Was a capital shot, and (abounding in pluck) Could dive like an otter, and swim like a duck, And was said—but perhaps the' report may be scandal— To box quite as well as the late Mr. Randall ! Now the instant Sir Harcourt got sight of this Belle, He bade to Miss Grace an eternal farewell, For he thought to his strict sense of honour 'twas due, To be off with the old love, Which now was the ci Id love, Before he was handsomely on with the new ; Having soothed thus his conscience, he flirted away, Like an ass as he was, with the area Lady Gay, And whenever she sung, (Which she called, giving tongue) He was always the first to wvke up from his snore, Approach the piano, and cry out " Encore !" Thus he flirted, and simpered, and sighed, 'till Olie night By the lady's sort glances bewildered outright, He dropped on one knee, And, chuckling with glee, Said, " May I request, my divine Lady G., That. you'll make your Sir Harcourt the proudest of men, By eloping to-morrow precisely at ten ?" " Elope !" quoth the lady, her cheeks in a glow, " Elope !—well, I never !—My stars, here's a go ! " Does your mother, you lout, " Know that you're out, " And the very unprincipled tricks you're about? " Elope !—And with you?— " Curse me, if I do, " Were you even as rich as old Rothschild the Jew !" So saying, she fetched him a slap in the face, Rang the bell loudly, and summoned Grace ! The rest of the plot may be easily guess'd ; Sir Harcourt, and justly, came off second best, For he lost both his wife and his mistress, whOse laughter Rang shrill in his memory many weeks after, And he learned this sad fact (Which ends the Fifth Act) That a man must be either a knave or a dunc e, Who attempts to make love to two women at once THE BOY JONES IN THE PALACE AGAIN. On Monday evening the boy Edward Jones. who, about three months ago, found his way into Buckingham Palace, and bad the satisfaction of inspecting the Queen's apartments and hearing the Priccas Ro3al " cry," paid another visit to the Palace, but, luckily for the peace of its inmates, he was soon discovered, and token into custody. He lied cfLeted an entrance unobseivcd by the guards and police stationed in the P.lace and its vicinity ; but before he had time to in trude far, his pm gross was arrested by a sergoact of police. Ho was instantly conveyed to the stat;on-house, where he remained all night, and to-day was bruught to Bow-street by two Inspectors of the A division. Mr. Hall, the chief Magistrate of that Court, hiving communication with the Home-office, ordered the prisoner to be taken there, wnere the c';:arge will be gone into, as on the l.ta occa sion. The prisoner only came out of Tuthill-fields House of Correktion this day fortnight, and it was supposed from the puni , hment he had Undergone that be would not repeat his offer.ce. His father says that offers have lately been made to him on the part of the Government, and that they have proposed to place him in a ship of war, to keep him out of trouble; and sfLerwFrds to get him some situation in the colonies. This, however, his mother disapproved a, stating she did not like the idea of her " son being borne away from her." The boy himself, it appears, exhibited no unwillingness to leave the country, but Le did not appear to have any wish to commence any active employment. COMMITMENT OF JONES. It appears from different accounts which we have re ceived, that about one o'ilt ck yesterday morning, Policf- Sergeant Glover, 3 A., being on duty in the interior of the Palace, heard a noise in one of the lobbys leading lions the Grand S &mare to the Pi tore Gallery, and proceeding thither he found the prisoner c.. - ouched in a recess, and without his shoes. The constable knew him directly, and sa'd " What, Jones, is that you ?" and the lad replied, " Yes, it's me." The policeman asked him how he got into the Pal ice, and he answered " The same way as before." He was asked how long he bad been tl e:e, and his reply was, "All day." That, however, was soon proved to be tube, for upon the constable examining his shoes he found them quite wet with mud. The Police- Sergeant then took him to the station-house of the A di vision in Gardieer's-lane, scarcely one of the intna - es of the Palace knowing anythit g of the matter. Inspector Hickman was on duty at the statien-house, and entered the charge against the prisoner upon the charge-sheet as tbat of hasiog Leen found concealed in Buckingham Palace for an unlawful purpose. The pri soner, who was not at all inclined to bo communicative, was then lccked up in a cell by himself. Yesterday, about one n'clock, he was taken to the Home office, and about hats- past one o'clock, the Hon. Mr. Murray, the Comptroller of her Majesty's Household, a-- rived, and was soon folios. ed by Mr. Hall, the Chef Ma. gistrate, and Mr. Barnaby;the chief clerk at Bow-street. The investigation then commenced. The Hon. Mr. Fox Maule and Mr. Philips, the Under secretary of State, successiv.Ay making the'r Bp; e-ranee. At half-part three o'clock, the boy Jones, and the officers in charge of lien, came from the room in which the examination had taken place, and took tilt it seats in a waiting room on the ground floor. In a few minutes, Mr. Hall left the Home-office, and, as we understand, proceeded to the Treasury, to ob tain an interview with the Marquis of Normanby. He re turned in a short time, and after a long discussion, at which the lad was not present, he was ordered up, and we are given to understand sentenced to three months' imprison ment and hard labour in the New Bridewell, Tothill-fields, and to this place ho was taken shortly afterwards by In specter Russell and St rgcant Glover. The lad is the son of a poor tt Ler living in Bell-yard, York-street, and wile wc.rks in a bulk . head in Derby street, Parliament-street. He first visited Buckingham Palace in December, 1837, and was in the act of making his escape from thence with some articles of clothing and a sword, when he was captured. He was examined at Queen-square police-court before Mr. White, who com mitted him to take his trial at Westminster Sessions, when, after a ludicrous examination, be was discharged. In December last be was again found at the Palace, examined at the Home-office, and sentenced to three months' itn pri3onment in Tothill-fields Bride well, and be only came out of that prison yesterday morning fins ight. He has lived with his parents since, and did not leave them on Monday night unit he had had his supper. It is gene rally supposed that he gc t over the wall in Constituti :n -1 hill into the gardens, and trom thence made hic way into 1 the Palace, but through what entrance is not known, as 1 there were no marks visible, nor traces of footsteps. SACRED HARMONIC SOCIETY.— A rehearsal of a new oratorio by Mr. George Perry, eeticled " The De,th ( f Abel," tuck place at Esc' er-hal last evening, and, as far al we had an opportu, ity of judging, it pro mises to be successful. Some of the choruses are power- LI and offen ve, and though a porti. , n of the music is not of a high or original chart titer, other parts are very supetior to any compositions of the kind produc,d lately. The orchestra, composed of a sat number of performers, was well supported by the sing( 1 , , and though both occa sionullv were at fault we have no doubt. that under the judicious management of Mr. Perry and Mr. Surman, they will be fully equ .1 to their parts by Faidav evening, when the oratorio will be performed with due effect in the great room of Exet-r.hall. Tie rehearsal was made in a small room bar,. ly suffic - ent for the performers, and as the effect of a chorus or a solo is so different in a confined space of this kind compared with that in a ball filled with hundreds of spectators, we mutt defer peonouncing any decided judgment on the oratorio till it is brought fairly before the public. SOAP MADE OF. FLINT.—The manufacture of rathe management silex soap, which was put a stop to by the Exei:e a year or two ego i n England, has sprung up and is flourishing in Ireland. Tne,e i. of an theextensive manufactory at Cork, un der A fire broke out last evening about eight o'clock i ii i i t n li e e E storeroom ch . r f ag th e e d S w o i u th th g a r m ea pt t o f n ury ß f a o i r lw a a b y ou s t ta a t n iv oti a r and 4 half, and &aro )d at e a great deal of property, TB E S N, LONDON, WEDNESDAY', MARCH 17, 1841 IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. draft, that the correction might be made in the letter. if the letter bearing my sigraiure was in the re turn, a manifest contradiction would have appeared in h was stated to Mr. Fennel and Mr. Bagnell; but I solemnly declare that I had no knowledge when this return was prepared, that that letter was not in accordance with the draft. I ass ear there was no motive in making these returns, but to gise as true a statement Of the case as the tapers in ou r p ossess i on wou ld ena ble us to do, and I swear that it w as d one f or t h e purpose - o f proving to the House that there was no contra di ct i on i n the correspon. deuce. The word s I wrote. were for the purpose of giving a different expr ess i on to t h e wor d s use d by the clerk, I wishin g to con ve y the im ression that the appointment had been cor.fir me d—l had no doubt in my mind- when the words were i nser t e d ; t h ey were pro b a bly inverted at the p time the papers rere brought forward in Bagnell's case ; possibly they we .e not inserted until the petitions were ordel-ed, but I have no recollection ef having inserted them at the time the returns were ordered. The altera tion of the words "have hem confirmed," and the putting the words " to be," was not done at the same time, but long after. The alteration was made partly in pencil, and partly in itik. The words " have beer. confirmed" were in ink. • My first impression on look ing at these pa l Cr, when the mstter was brought before the House was, that the whole alteration met t have been male at Ont 2 time, but on endeavouting to recollect the eccurrcnces that took place two or three years ago, it aprearcd to me possible that the alteration in pencil and that in ink was made at the same time;; but a stronger impression afterwards was, that the words in pencil were subsequently written, and they may have been written, as I sta , ed before, when tr,e correspondence with Mr. Bagnell took place. In the letter wri.ten to Mr. Fennell I d:d not state that what I now know was not a correct statement, but one merely explanatory. Wo always consider the Assistant Commissioner as virtually conftrring when he recommends an appoiatment. I be lieve the answer to Mr. Fennell was a true answer. I also believe the one to M. Bagaell to be a true answer. (The witness then made some explanation of this state ment, which was Laudiale.) The letter, as sent to Mr. Fennell, is not a true letter, but, as ccrrcetei by myself, I consider it to be so. I consider it itiFfic eat f. r the purpo - ..e. To Lord ELLENBOROUGH—GereraIIy speaking, it was his duty to keed a true record of all letters sent by the Board. Many le:tera were sent out without any col ies be;ng kept. By the Earl ef GLENGALL—He had left out the wends " A gentl mien, retired from business," because he had heard that Mr. Butler-had compounded with his ere. 2itors. The return made by hial was not a tue return of tee Report of M-. PLea,-... An the it:qui:les made re spa the polit'e,.l connexions or feetnris of Mr. Butler wi-re made through the Asiitat.t-Comtplistore ,- , and no HOUSE OF LORDS, MARCH 13 Their Lordships met at Five o'Clock. The Archbishop cf CANTERBURY presented a pe tition from a place in Kent for the batter observance of the Sabbatb. _______ The Duke of WELLINGTON presnted a petition from the Board of Guardians of the Walton Union, Southampton, praying the House to pass the Bill now in Parliament for the amendment of the Poor-laws, aid, above all, for the continuance of the Commission. The Marquis of NORMANBY hid on the tab'e re turns of the number and character of outrage; committed in the county of Limerick, from the Ist of Oct. 1839, to to the lst of Junc, 1840; also returds relating to the ad ministration of justice in Ireland, and to the state of pri- sons in Scotland. LORD KEANE'S ANNUITY. On the motion of Lord DUNCANNON Lord Keane's Annuity Bill was rt ad a third time. TITHE COMPOSITION BILL (IRELAND). Lord DUNCANNON, in moviog tl.c third reading of this Bill, proposed amendments of a technical nature in the second arid third' clauses. These amendment=, he said, would not effect the object deSired by the Noble E rl op posite (the Earl of Wicklow), nor did he know by what alteration that object could he effected. The Earl of WICKLOW was sorry to hear that the Noble Lord was not l.repa•ed to remcv,a his objec ion, as he was most unwilling to throw any impediment in the way of a measure which was gs 'e:aliy so importar.t. Ile regretted that none a f the legal Lands were the House, for be was sure he would have their support in saying fiat his objection was insurmountable. It was this, that under the Bill, as it now stood, any number of 1 emits cool I be force] into a court ofjustice without notice, and judgment could be given against them without ti eir being he r.l, or basis g an ) knowledge of the proceedings ; and further, t`-at under such circumstances they would be liable to the casts. He had hoped that in the time which had elapsed since tli measure was introduced lis Noble Friend would have been able to base so framed the Bill as to remote this de fect. He did not mean to oppose Bill, but should content himself with stating this objc odor. Lord DUNCANNON said the object of the Bill was to prevent the nece.,sity of serving 350 or 360 separate notices and to enable the Attorre;-General to proceed, not by separate notice but by or.e gereral notice on all persons resic'ent in the sense diocese. There was no possible way of effecting this object without incurring the difficulty which his Noble Friend had stated. The Eail of GLENG ALL said there was anoti ee serious point 1. hith had not been n eltioncd. Wiien those parties came in to object to the order made for the p 3) merit of the money they must first pay the costs incurted on the pc-ti ion. lie thrwg t etas was a ease. Vi count DUNCANNON thought it would be the same with separate notices. The Marquis of DOW NSHIRE sugc3 . e i that the Bill should be delayed far a few de; s to afford time for corsider:t.on. one else. By the Duke of WELLINGTON—The appointment of Mr. Butler was received from London. The Commis sioners in London were responsible fer his appointment, though the recommendation was made by the Commis sioners in Ireland. The Duke of WELLINGTON said the Commission ers were responsible for this appointment. He asked, what had they before the:m to warrant them in making it? Witness—They had not anything before them but the letter from Messrs. Hancock and Hawley. They had in structed the Assistant Commissioners to make inquiries as to the persons to be appeieted returning-officers; and they held them rerportsible for the appointment. The Duke of WELLINGTON sail the Commissior.- ers themselves alone were responsible by the Act of Par'i ament. The Earl of GLENG ALL asked whether any part of the information communicated to the Commissioners re specting Mr. Butler was that he was a violent political partizan, and had assaulted Vie police in Clontnel, for which he was brought before the Magistrates, but not prosecuted on account of the interference of the Gevern :pent? Vt 7 .tness firmly believed gest no such knowledge was in the minds of the Commissioners at the time of the ap pointment. It was upon the affilavin for which Davies was convicted cf perjury, Butler was exonerated from the charges made against him for improper conduct in the functions e f his office. Witness might have heard, but he dil not remember, that Butler wa; accuse] of subor nation of perjury in the case of Davies. Was quite car lain that no such charge appearel upon the proceedings. But many other charges were made against him for ne glect of duty, and Mr. Nicholls had lost confidence in him. Mr. Butler remained in the ((Bee up to the Ist of March, 1841, because he was appointed at first for that time; but he had had no dut es to I erform since the com plaints were made against him, there having been no election sire that time. In answer to a question from the Earl of Wicklow, the witness stated that no interval elapsed bet.veen the receipt of the order for the return of papers to this House, and the answer to that older. Lord GLENG ALL—If you received a letter from Me. Butler, on the 6th of February, why did you not return it in the last, with that of Mr. Fennel', which you did not receive until the 16th ? The witness' answer was net heard in the gallery, but he produced the letter itselr, when he was ordered to with draw. The Earl of GLENG A LL then was about to read portions of the letter, which in the list return to the House, were omitted from the printed espy, astcricks occupying their place. From that omishri, he said their Lordships would be able to judge cf the principles which governed the appointment of Mr. Butler. The Marquis of NORM AN BY objected that the Nob l e Earl could not read them unless they related to the matter immediately under their Lordsbips'eonsideretien. The Esrl cf GLENG A isf3 sield Che Commissioters stated that they were not aware that Butler had any pc litical Connection. The letter would go far to prove why be was appointed returning officer. The Marquis of NORM A NB Y thought they Whetter postpone the immediate subject of isquiry. It was not necessary that they should go a , . once into a complete and distinct part of the i quire. The Earl of W ICKLOW saw no objection against reading the extracts. He conceived they were calculated to bear out the object in vier. Lord ELLENBO ROUG fl thought that they could not go into a general inquiry into the conduct of the Commissioners.. Unless that part of the letter bore on the subject of the appointment of that gentleman asreturnirg officer, there could be no necessity for laying it before their Lordships. The Earl cf G L ENG A L L said that it-did bear on that subject. On the 6th of February, Mr. Butler wrote to Mr. Phelan to endeavour to get him appointed re turning officer of Clenmel. In that letter he wished also to have another person to assist in getting hi n that place, which was worth about 301. a-year. The Duke of WELLINGTON said it was compla'ncd of that those papers were garbled. lie Lad moved for ext, acts from the original pre( eeeirtgs of the Poor-law Commissioners, arid the Noble Marquis and her Majesty's Mini tens had in consequence thought proper that the Poor law Comaissioners should attend heft re th-,t House and give an account of the various omissions its those papers. Now they were toll that there were but a few sheets of paper here and there and in different places wee(' would tend to explain 'ho mode is which those enactions were carried Cr, and that the Noble Lord (Normanby) had some of those sheets in his hand. Now that was not tine way of conductug an i nquiry, and fir his p art he consilered that the present was a most serious question. It was of the utmost importance to know hors these proceedings were carried on—bow these appoint ments were made—wh o m a d e t h em —in short, their origin up to the soy moment when they were laid before the Hoene. The Marquis of NORM ANBY sa'd he hat no objec tion to the readi g of the letter produced. It was said that it related to tee subject of inquiry. The subject was, no doubt, as the Noble Duke had said, a very important one, and they ought to proceed with it with the utmost at tention. [The letter from Mr. Butleeto Mr. Phelan was then react, the purport of which war requesting the ap pointment of returning officer, and stating that the Attor ney-General for Ire land had made him ( Mr. Butler) many promises, but had yet done nothing for him.] The examination was then resumed2—Witness could not say for certain whether the Attorney-General was Mem ber for Clonmal or not. Never bra-d that Butler waste commended by the Attorney-General. In answer to a question from the M treenis of NOR MANDY relative to the dates of letters received since the year 1839, the witness stated that he was not certain whether in the Book of Minutes thee was any particular column appropriate for the clat.fs of letters. The Marquis of NORMAND Y said, that, in conse quence of the course which the examination had taker, he thought it right that Mr. Phelan should be called to the bar of the House. When be objected to his attendance on a former occasion, he had no i lea th at M e Phelan was b o T u h l d e h E e a Earl allowed cd WICKLOW,te rdistinctly shaltitarhisnicseeettiti:rhylr:ileaen:Ldb7beoeasaferret;rodeeal present in Dublin at the time when the particular transac tion occurred, to which the examination bad reference. s j i shu t ixis w etir o .c u e l a d t.oh n v o lie t ql: b li. ge e for hies to attend before Monday. boundthat testate, inl the remark of the should Th e be m a summoned rct,ii e f N to o cu a u t A.r t ir e ie n ld d N itiO Noble Earl. information with respect to those The Duke of WELLINGTON said it w , as in ver w y ti p ti o n s 4 - sible that the returns could not be revs,. It was desir- able, however, to have from the Commissioners, how the matter steed. It was most important that they should know whether they were or were not to have Lordships tesi them, in prepared u r ti . 3,o e u i t j iiihnteo The Earl of WICKLOW aid the Et rl of MOUNTCASHEL also recommended delay. Lord DUN CAN NO N saidhe regretted 0 eie objections had not been mentioned in the di atusston that took pL c 2 a week ago. He had, however, no objection, if desr4d, to postpone the 8.11 to this day week. The debate was adjourned accordingl:. The Marquis of DOWNSH IR E pie ented petitions from the comity of DJvvr, against Church Patronage in Scotland. The Noble Marquis ssil he did not cot. our in the opinion expressed by the pstitieners. The Earl of MOUNTCASHEL moved for col ies of certain Fa,iers,- referring to transactions whi t.he had taker' Flace between the Guardians of the Union of Fer may and the Poor-law Commissioners.—Ordered. The Marquis of NORM A NBY begged to inform the Noble Lord opposite that Mr. Stanley, the Secretary to the Peor-law Commisrieners of Ireland, was in attendance, and ready to answer any questions which might be put to him. On the motion of the Ertl of GLENGALL, Mr. Stanley was called t 3 the bar aid sworn. In answer to questions put to him by the Earl of GLENGALL, the witness stated that he was Secretary to the Poor-law Commissioners of Ireland. Tne Poor law Commissioners of England and Wales were also the Poor-law Commission era of Ireland. The acti ag Com missioner was Mr. Nicholls. lie was the only Corn.: rt,i;sioner who sst at the Board in the month of February, 1840. Could not say whether he (the Commissioner) was or was not in Ireland in Fe bruary 1839. If he were he was the only Commioi alter in Ireland. All the proceeding of the Commissioners were entered, not in a tettet-book, but upon a register. They had no letter-books, but all letters that were received vie. e entered upon the register. He bad that register with him, and it contained all the matters con cerning the Clonmel Union in February, 1839. No person had access to those books who were not em ployed under the Poor-law Commissioners. The Lord- Li •utenant of I eland had been in the office cf the Poor. la.v Commissioner, but he (Mr. S ) had net the honour b ing in the room with him, and could not say whether he Lai inspected the books or not. The Lord-Lieute nant had frequently called at the office, but what he did he (Mr. S.) was not aware. The re:urn dated May, 1840, was in witness's hand writing. It concerned the appointment of Mr. John Butler as the - turning officer for the Clonmell Union. It con tained the letter from Messrs. Hawley and Hancock, the Assistant Commisiioners, recommending J hn Butler to that office. That letter "atrived by post, and Mr. Nicholls was not then in Dublin. Mr. Earle was the Comrrissioner in Dublin upon the 14th of February. Beare he referred to the Return No. 3, he begged to be understood that when he was first asked, was Mr. Nicholls in Ireltind in February, his reply meant he was so in February, 1810, but in F'daruary, 1839, Mr. Nicholls was not there, but Mr. Eerie was. No. 3 was the let er in which Mr. Fenuell offered himself as the returning officer el the Clonmel Union. The re commen dation cf Mr. But er from Messrs;. Hawley and Hancock did not arrive in Dublin till the 18th, two days after the receipt of Mr. Feitnell's letter. Tun - lin ,, to the paper No. 4, witness found that it was ae letter of i the Secret try of the Poor-law Commissioners, dated 18th February, 1839, and addressed to George Fennell, Esq., Cl mmel. It stated that in reference to his (Me. letter, the writer was directed to inform him that it was not received until after the Commissioners had determined to elect an other person. Lord GL E NG A LL—Was that letter ever written, an d if it was written was it ever sent to Mr. Fennell ? Witness could have swore, a few days ags, that it was, but circumstances had since occurred which convinced him that part of that draft was not coplel into the letter which was actually tent. Lord GLENGALL ref rrcd the witness to a letter dated the 19th e f Feb., and addressed from the Poor-law Commissioners' office in Dublin, to Mr. Fennell, in forming him that his epplicai in did not arrive until after an appointment was made of another person. The Noble Lord asked was that in wittie,b's I acd-writing. Witness—lt was. He could only account for its not being included in the return of the cot respoodeace from thi that no draft was made after that which was dated the 18th, and whieh was not sent. The clerk who copied it put upon fie record in the office the original instead of the amended: d'art, end in this way atone—(as we!l as we could understand the witness who spoke in a very indistinct and hesitating manner under the reportet's gallery)—i i this way alone he could account for the copy eatered on the comp ondence not agreeing with the letter which was actually sent. I altered the original draft. I have brought the draft of the letter as altered. I produce it; it is in the hand writing of the clele ef correspondence. The c:)r. ections are in my hand-wr tint. None of the corrections the re wet e made at the time the letter was brought to me for sionature. The draft is copied in the returns to this House. The extent cf the corrections in my own handwriting would be perceived from the difference in the handwriting. These words woul l be just sufficient to fill the space oc cupied by the words objnted t). If the clerk had taken the corrections as made, he cool I have read them as written for him. The corrections made were just suffi cient to fill the space. The erasure was made subse quently to the Fe:iod at which the letter bears date. By the Duke of WELLINGTON—That book was a re cord of the proceedings of the Commissioners kept in obe (Peace to the provision in the third section of the Poor. law Amendment Act. By the Earl cf GL ENG ALL—The letter No. 4 in the return was not the letter sent to Mr. Fennell In ex planation of the statement made to Mr. Fearell that an .pptiatment lid hee.i made, the recommendation of Mr. Hawley end Mr. Hancock not arriving in Dublin until the 181 h, the witness said that the clerk made the ,tatemtnt from his knowledge of the sriteti to of Mr. Butler. Thee letters were never laid befete Mr. Earle. Instructions were given by the Commissioners to the clerk, either ver bally or in unting. Mr. -Phelan wai in daily attendance when the cie k wrote the letttr. It was witness who d:rect d thc alteration to; be made with regard to the ap pointment having been conferred on another person. The: e was no record of any instructions given by Mr. Phelan. lie cou'd not account for the letter act being ansvt e ed on the 16th ; it might have been from pressure of busincir. Mr. Phelan never suggested alterattons in the tfraf-. The Earl of GLENG ALL rose to order. From the course which the evVence had taken, it was clear their Lordships could want to call other witnesses. He was of opinion that those witnesses who were to be called, ought not to be in the House while another witness was under examination. The Marquis of NORM ANBY said certainly, it was desirable that no communication should take place tetween witnesses that were to be called, but he did not know whe ther it was nece3s4ry to order them to retire. Lord EL LENBOROUG H said it was clear that the House would re .wire to call some other witnesses. They ought nct to be in the House while ether witnesses Were under examination. The Marquis of NORMANBY—Such being the view oft• e House, it ougl.t to he communicated t) the persons likely to be calla'. In answer to UT 1 RE DESDALE, Witness sai l, that No. 1,329 was the letter to John Bagnell, the a ns &Ter to w hich did not appear on the minutes. No. 1,407 was the letter et the Assistant-Commissioner, g iv ing his teascns for not calling the meeting at Clonmsl. The A s,i.te,t-Commissioner was the writer of the let ter 1,407. There is no entry of ti e date of the le.ter to Mr. Bagnell, but we have a copy of it. The number is not on tnese r; turns. I have contrasted the letters from the Poor-law Commissioners to Mr. J. Bagnell of the 12th Mattel) 1839, stating that Mr. Joha Butter was re:om mended to them as a proper persen to perform the duties of returning officer, but that the appointment was not made, with the letter in the return, and the words, with the exception of the formal introductory ones, which are now copied cr faithfully given in the return. It is true that the letter wriAen to Mr. Fennell, dated the 18th of February, 1839, and wLich states that the application to be appointed returning officer did not'arrive until after the appointment had been made in favour of another, was cf a t eally different nature to that sent to Mr. Bagnell, in which it was stat'd that the appointment was not made, which was what I wiihel to express :In the letter to Mr, Fennell, and NI. that parposo I math , an alt4ratioki 11(1 o f N 0 s A d N e s ß i r Y abl t e h thought t that wit with Nichollsa bblie n ald that before Mr. informed whether he and May. transactions. a short conference The Marquis should v vyN i , e aiTTc w sbhhi o t ieei o l sbi‘DtierbEaueaarabitgirilriuloc::::oi,ielfndhfc t ; N : G o seoil le omß t E u u ioNN i i n tAGhw t N o i ?fhB D I, y,L u oe anfit7ry with Mr. Nicholls, stated teat he was in Dublin partof the month of Fehruaty, and p'rt of May. The Earl of GLENGALL said that the cIEC involvei not merely the falsificntion of the returnv, but the whole conduct of the Commissioners in the transaction. The evidence was then ordere fto be Ited, and an order made for the attendance of Mr. Phelan on Monday next. Their Lordship then adjourned till Thursday. HOUSE OF COMMONS, 111Ancu 16. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock. i On the niction of Mr. D RBY the Waningoro Inclo sure Bill was read a sec Jed time. Mr. BERNAL brought up the Report of the Com mitteen e o th po ßoß s I t.h BLAKE ro s se object lands el/co t move fs waso : that certainlt e r r l l e o purposeeß ailwayn b l ethe Comp an y t o take B clauses be added Aire. L ies it s E r n ofs of making repairs. The accidents wbieh occurred rendered it quite necessary that such powers should be given. One instance had occurred, in which if the landowner had refused per. scission the railway must have been stepped. It was not refttgeti by him; but other landowners had prevented the Comp an y f rom com ing TB their Ihn4s to mahc He had no intention, by taking this course, to infiiege upon 1 which had been so long observed on the subject in the Standing O r d ers o f the House. , the House of Commons arose from the circumstance of its On the first etause being read, ' bslonging to a class of questions which, as they could Mr. SHIEL should feel it his duty to object to the not become a nwitter of party warfare, seltlem engaged introduction of there clauses, because when the 13ill was , the attention of H o e. M e mbers. He did not want the originally introduced no notice was Oren that such pow( ra ' experience of that evening—(Grc at ncle prevailed at would be sought f or . Th ese c l auses d eparte d eer y t rate- this time in the House)—to convince him that questions rially from the Pie of which notice had been given, and ! cf that nature were but lightly considered by the House or on behalf of the department to which he had the honour to I by the Government, and he could not believe if the differeet belong, he should feel it his duty to resist them.—( Hear.) i Administrations since 1814 bad Leen alive to the importance He believed that an attempt had been made in Committee i of the question, as affected the commerce of the country, to introduce clamses of a similar nature, but they had been , they would ever have permitted the King of Denrraek to objected to ; and surely it wa not upon bringing up tie ' impede and harrass Br tish trade by the levying of thee report of the Bill, at a time is hen the parties had to no- ! dues. He could not imagine by chat a , gumeit such a tice whit ver, that such clauses should be introduced. system could be defended. It was contrary to every rc- Mr. W. PATTEN would also resist the clauses. In ' , ceivel maxim of international 1 tw—it was opposed to the his experience upon Etelway Commieees he could sta e ueiversal practice of the civilised world, and to those Rise that similar propositions had Leen frequently made, but i principles which regidined t}.e intercourse of kingdoms. in every case they had been resisted ; and he believed such ' He could not conceive how an impost of the kind had Lent power had l ever been allewed in rely Ea lway Bill. so long tolerated—an impost which advanced the price , f Mr. PEASE thou g ht some power ought to b.: g ven to our goods in foreign ira , kets and of foreign goods in our the m i . vay pror i tors to make repairs in c ties of ,cci- markets—which stopped our ships in their voyages and dull, but at the same time he could net say that he en- exposed their crews to harrassing restrictions and tartly approved of these clauses. It should not, hod eve r, impediments, affecting in a most navel ieeous n.aer.er he supposed that Mc .use they eis hod to ; rsvent an attempt the operations of our commescs. If the law were being trade to obtain powers of an obj. ceonable nature, I a legal ore it might perhaps be 1 adently submitted to. they also wished to restrain the enterprise of the country. But if it could be shown that the King of Denmark had Mr. ESTCOURT wished to express his gloat ob- violated the treaty on which he founded Li; jection to the introduction of such clauses as that now claim—if it could be shown that he had exercised before the House. It had Lean attempted on former power egeinst our trade which the treaty itself expressly occasions but the House la al reje, tad them. When the ftrbiels, he (Mr. 11.) thought that under such ei elm:- Bill was printed and proposed in the first instance, it did stances i: was a fair subject of consideration and i iquiry net contain these olesctionable clauses, and he eheteer or not the contract between the tso nations believed parties in the vie:tiny of rade ays were In ad not been annulled. He should not fatigue the House not aware of the intention to introduce teem. by any lengthened statement of the origin of the Sound He could net atm the opportunity to pass with. deco It was suffieiert to stem that teeae tolls had been out congratulating the lieu e upon the appoi e t. arbitrarily, and sometimes forcibly exacted by the King of ment of Li; Eon. Friend as Chairman of the Comnd tee Denmark, and were at length recognised and sanctioned on Ways and Means. —e Hear, hear, hear.) They owed by the States cf Holland in 1645, by the Treaty cf it to the vigilance of his Honourable Friend that Cl ristianople. Specific chaeges were lane down for this subject had been brought under the considers- each artmle of commerce, and with respect to ticn of the House. He ( Mr. Estcourt) was sure those not stated in the to id', it was agreed that that it . was sa!i;actory to the pubic th at i t was so b roug ht th e y sh ou ld b e taxe d one p r cent . a d v alorem. to light, and that attempts were tesisted to introduce mea- In 1647 the King of Holland Lecarne a consenting party sures in Committee, of which the public had not receivel to another treaty, by which the King cf Denmark u nde,.. ample notice. It was now known that such aeempts . took to establish lielithouses and buoys in the CaWegat would be vigilantly watched, and that his Hon. lerlend and the North Sea; c rtoin fixed payments were to he would bring them before the House, and give the disuse made to the Danish office's at EMinere, and the King of an opportunity of examining ti ew, and (f rejectisg them if Denmark bound hints:lf by a solemn engagement, never, deemed objectionable.—( Hear, hoer ) en any pretext, to increase tie amour Cot' tolls. In 1814, M. 13 E RNA L se i 1 Le was glad this matter was by the Treaty cf Kit 1, these tells were c mfirmed, brought Lefoce the House. He etas satisfied that the between Greet B,iteia and the Crown of Denmark, and origeml evil of this proposition lay in the form ia yvhiA that was done at a grievous sac, iiice ef British commerce, He notices in ;Le country re xspapers were w, wi e d as it would he admitted that the Keng of Denmark had (Hear.) The words were so comprehensive thee they effseted a bargain with eh ch he should be content. would include almost anything. Persons in:e.-estcd c o uld What had been the result? Ever since tie signing , :f not be :uffleiently apprised cf clauses sought to be intro- the Treaty of 1814, toe Government of Denmark had duced in this marine-. The Bill as it stood before the been engaged in considering by what means it could vi •- House, was a Bill to rai se a n a ddi t ie na l eilit.l. He late its stipulations. He would now recal to the attention thought the !Loosa should take into consideration the of the House the nature of the taxes that t' ea exist id. propriety of improting the farm of notice. —(Hra-, He fund that a tariff was concluded between Denmark h, ar ) It should Le reduced to a Standing Order, t . a t and Rus is i a 1645, and according to that, with respect to the notices should be more distinct. If such a step was goods not enunier.t.:d in the tariff, Russian suljects were demi 'e I upon, the House coule then erder the petition to not to pay more than ore per cent. The tartff between Le r, feared to the Committee on StandingOrders,it should Great Britain rod Denmark granted the same a !van stand on the same gniund as ti e notice, and thus they tages to British subjects as those conferred on Russians would not be a. tidied with vague and loose allegation, by the former tsriff.—( Herm, hear, hear.) With Witn respect to the clauses denoninetcd l ewd, ra cl auses , respect to the tariff of Cie istianople instead of one per doubts were entertained whethe its legal tendency they cent., sometimes five, sit, and even eight per cent. were were for perpetuity, or a battled space of }ears; and it exacted by it, and fixed payments were substituted for per was on that account these clauses were introducei, to do cent age. On Norway and Swedish deals 1,500 yes away with any doubt as to the construction of the Act. cent. over the legal charge was often exacted. On cotton Mr. B. WOOD said that havirg acted in the Commit,. and woollen goods, on sugar and coffee, a per tentage tee, he coccuried entirely i 1 the opinion that had b een was at times exacted enormously beyond what was expressed by his lion. Friend. He felt that a vast ire_ specified in the tariff. There could be no doubt that we provement had lately taken place in the mann e r in whi c h '.ere suffering under a degree of opt ression and injury unoppote I Beis were conducted, but, at the same time, he in daring violation of the t eaties which hal been thougne on the present question, they were treating tee concluded touching this subject. For 26 years that state Railway Company with sonic harshness. The clause of things was gciag on. Our powers in the North which was now before th e Ho u se was one w hi c h cf Europe, which were once so great, in was absolutely necessary for the purpose of enabling the le.peet to the steiject now Mare the House were Company to keep up the repair of the road. Without greatly diminished, and he trusted we would not wait till we that power it was quite clear that the road must either he saw Br tish commerce excluded from the Baltic ; which at the mercy of the landowners, or fall to decay.— w.ull ce,taMly soon be the case unless rigorous ( Hear, hear.) If they had come with the proper means were taken to enforce the rights of the notice, there would be no difficulty, he apprehended, British merchant:.—( Hear.) He would not go further in passing ti.e Bill. It had ben mentioned on th e ether into a subject which appeared so unpalatable to the side of the House that that was an unheard of clause. Now House, but which was of vast importance to the great corn 'he believed that the clause was introduced into every Bill mercial constituency which he represented. He trusted re'a ive to the subject passed within the last one or two the Noble Lord would think it necessary to take the sub yeses. It was a clause which was established as a mo d e l ject into his tonsil. ration. There were few things that clause, as he understood, and it appeared to him to be a would bring the Noble Lord into greater accession of fame clause essential to the maintenance of railnays,—( H ear .) than proving himself to be the emancipator of our corn and different in no degree from that attached to Bills re- [tierce from the thraldom to which it was now subjected. lating to turnpike r oa ds. The reason of the eromoters Tao Hon. Gentleman concluded by moving, That, in the cf the Bill coming before the House at that stage was opinion of this House, the Tariff of Sound Dues now la simply on account of the formation of a new road. He vied at Elsineur is not a Tariff which the King of Denmark thought that it was rather hard that the Company should is entit:el to maintain ; and that the Sound dues require now Le opposed when par ies were taken by sur p r i se , such a revision as will facilitate the commercial relations of They came to the House with a clause arising this country with the 13.1 tic Ports. out of circumstances which they could not foresee, The SPEAKER having put the question,. which occured since the first Bill wan printed—circum. Lord PALMERSTON would not dispute any of the stances which involved them in law suits, and might in- propositions which his Hon. Friend had so ably and dis valve them iu great difficulty ; even Letween the present passionately propounded, because he could do no better than time and next year, when they coule come anew before the say that the statement which be had made with regard to Housenhat Company might Le essentially injured, and the the manner in which the Sound dues were] now levied public greatly inconvenienced. Under these circumstances was ablest entirely the case of the British Government as lac was inclined to press the House to pass the law. against the Government of Denmark. Therefore it was Lord G. SOMERSET thought that if the effect of not his wish to weaken the propositions which his the clause would be to adjudicate in favour of ore party Honourable Fiend had endeavoured to establish. and against the other, that was a sufficient reason against This was not the first time, however, the subject the granting ef the clause. The Directors of the South- had been brought under the consideration of the Goverr.- ampton Re I Nay were to hate a power of t ilei g 500 yards meat in that House. Inched, the ground on which he along the whole line of railway without tatting imme- should request his H mourable Friend, as a met diate possession of it, but always keeping the ter of encre,ion, either to withdraw his modem powers thus vested in them barging over the or not tn resist f - e motion of the precious ques- Leads ef rho landed prerr:etor=. So nionstri:us a power tion, wan that the subj.:et had fur some time pant tic as that, it whatever shape it might be brought before the cupied the serious attention of Government, aid that they House, was, he thought, certain of being negatived. were at this moment in negotiation with the Government Mr. MARK PHILIPS objected to the gri cameos of Denmark upon the matter—( liter, hear)—end that to which the landowner; were likely to be subjected by that cons, qucntly any expression of opinion on the pert Bile of. the House, such as was then proposed, would M-. BLAKE, afmr the opposition which he eal met be an unfitting and an inexpedient let -rposition of with nom both sides of the House, withdrew his proposed Parliament. in a negotiation pending between the British tl tuns. Crown and the Cr own of Denmark. Moreespecially when the The Bill was then reported, and ordered to be engrossed. dispat Py of the strength of tee two countries, was conen Me CHET WYND presented a petition from a placitin dered he thought it would not only upon general principle S affurdshi,e against the Stet:ford and Rugby Railway Bill, be inexpedient, but in some manner ungracious at the The petitioners said tl at the railway would be of no public present moment. licr Majesty's Government hal made benefi', and that its only object was to put money in the a communication on the subject some time ago to the pockets of the projectors. Government of Denmark, through the Danish Minister in Sir G. CLERK presented a petition against the pa. thiscountry. The result ef that communication had been lock and Gevaa Railway Bill from the agent of a conti- that 'he Danish Minister who was before on leave of guous estate. absence from this country, returned especially for the Coloeel LYG ON presented a petition from err &n purpose of coming to some arrangement with the British landowners of Woree.t - r against the Severn Navigation Government. Ile f, It it due to the Danish Government Bill. to state, that in their communications on the subject, they On the motion of Mr. R. GORE, tice Patent Rolling had evinced a fair and candid disposidon, and had entered and Compressing, Iron Company Bill was read a second into the question with a view to the completion of a time, settlement which might be satisfactory to all parties. Her Lord SANDON brought in the Liverpool Docks' Bill, Majesty's Government felt that they could not object to elai el was read a first time any dues which. were legally exacted ; but they contended On the motion ef Mr. I3ROADLEY, Bogden's Name- that a great portion of the numerates dues levied were ralissfon Bill was a read second time. not maintainable by any interpretation of the treaty. Mr. B. WOOD pies anted a pct:tion from cert tin There was ore pa int in which be (Lord Palmerston) could parties in Southwark, praying for compensation under the not age eat with his lion. Friend. He could not think Southwark Improvement Bill. with him that whatever might have been the oppressive Sir C. STYLE presented a petition from Comberford, nature of those duties, they had diminished tee preying for the extinction of Church -rates, and the im- commerce of Great Britain with the Baltic. mediate liberation of Mr. Baines, They might undoubtedly have in some (logic, Sir G. STRICKLAND presented a petiCon from Ix:Amami its amsmenta ion, and one teiag was quite Caithness, praying for the abolition of Church Patronage ee tain that they liad tended much to divert the chain ;in Scotland. eel of our commerce.—( Hear, hear.) But it appeared ' Mr. W. GL ADSTONE presented a petition from from a pamphlet, ef which he was sure his Hoc. Friend Newark, against the Medic II Reform Bill. . would be the last to deny the authority, and which had Mr. J. ROUND presented a petition from Maldon, in ably discussed the whole question—it appeared from the Essex, to the same effect. last pages of that pamphie', that if the commerce of Great Sir G. CL ER K presented a petition from Chemists Brit tin with Denmark had not been of late years increased it and Druggists if the borough of Stamford, agaltet the had not at i.ll diminished. But it was certain that a great Medical R form 13i!I, portion of the commerce which would have been caroled on Mr Alderman COPELAND presentcl a petition from though the Sound had been di,e:ted into another c ourse; Stoke-upoe-Trent to the same effect. and that was also a circumstanc e which should weigh with Mr. H. BERKELEY presented a petition from Bris- the Danish Government, because it ought to shoe them tol is the tame effect. that Not less than 30 or 4') Members, who had petitions on ttir theve maintenance ce t eon then of extent hse theyh might have imagi ed, and rentate high duties did not add to the same subject, then moved simultaneously towards the that by reducing the dues, so as to restore e the c ornmerce be f Denmaek would in table, and presented them amidst the laughter of the tween the tsvo countries, House. The only one which we could distinguish in the truth sustain very sail that British Government little if any revenue of Having stated confusion was a eeidon presented by Mr. Gaily Knight, thus much, and having . . . from the Medical ot,sceiation of Nottinghannin favour of was oegaged in a_tive negotiations sm . da the Government t of Denmark on the subject, and that the latter the Bill. Mr. W. PATTEN said, seeing the Hon. Member for had shown a real and sincere . desire te come to be a di fa l ir t u h z Lambeth iii his place, he begged leave ts ask him en derstanding . with regard to it, and hoping as . Lehalf of those who had entrusted him with this petition, the ie negotia . i :us might be brought is a sa tisfactory a ccoerar - whether it was or was riot his intention to retain those clu'i m long before . the expiration of a quarter clauses in the 13•11 which affected t h e tralo of chemists tury, as Li; Hon. Fiend anticipated—at the expiration 1:e an d druggist. They bad been left out of the former ( Lord P.) trusted of even a quarter cf a year—these being Bill, but introduced into tha before the House, and be his bores and expectations on the matter, be trusted that wished to know what was the Hon. Gentleman's iaten- his lion. Friend would either withdraw his met:on t r that tion with re reel to them. he would abstaie from t tkiog the sense of the House against Mr. HA WES said he had no Imitation in answeri.ig the motion for the previous question. the Hort. Member's question, and stating again t i the Si; E. PEEL said that if there was any immediate House as he did before, that he had not the least idea of prospect of the matter being brought to a satisfactory colt affscting the trade c.f the chemists artd druggists by any elusion at an eJy period tl.e lion. Gentleman would, is of the provisions of the Bill, and if there was any his opinion, exefeesea sound discretion in withdrawing the ambiguity—and he doubted that these was—in the motion ; but when the Noble Lord said that negotiations Bill he would remedy it by a distinct clause. we re entered into on the subject, and that the House of le answer to an Hew. Metter e, Commons ought not to irterfet e ' it should be considered that Mr. il AWES said that lie intended to bring in the the question had been pending for years, durieg which the Me ecal Reform Bill to-morrow. just claims of Great Britain had not been acknowledged. Major CH ET WY ND gate notice that on Thursday he The Noble Lord admitted that the duties now levied by would move for Returns of the number of franked and De-imark Vl ere not in conformity with the treaty. What, uefranked letters that passed through the Post-office since then, was t, prevent the ieteiference of the House of Com the sth of January 1837; also for Re turns relative to the mons? Na one whited to resort to violence, but if tb e number cf money-letters since that p eriod. Crown coal not procure redress, and if it appeared that Sir G. STRICKLAND gave not ice that in Committee solemn engagements were habitually violated, there WA' on the Poor-law Amendment Bill he would move that no (Weer alternr tive, in his opinion, but that the H certain alterations be introduced into the Bill. Commons should in calm and-temperate , and beecnni ilL a s l i . application for rew' Mr. E A STHOPE gave notice that to-morrow he gunge fortify the Crown in its ~, c o_ t e inicr f„- would move that the petitions which he bad presented from Th tt seemed to him to be a case fur thelbegi i ° had made a stet— . favour of the liberation of Mr. Wm. Baines, coca of the House. The Noble Lord b e (Sr R. Peel) Leicester in eas e of and for the abolition of Church-rates, be printed. ment in the course of his scech Mr. ROCHE moved fur certain returns connected did not think could he justified. , - of the C7MIECMC be with publ c works in Ireland.—Ordered. that there had been In diminution d m the present du. un i• - Mr. BA tiNEBY movei for a return of each mail coach tween Great Britain and Douro , " d to conclude that that was 'lleicNhoble Lord bad said or cart, or other conveyance drawntby horse., employed t ties, and the Noble bLeueriddsneoetmeeempitio of the present sys by the Post-office for the conveyance of letters in any part a reason why they s was o f a con t rar y opj. of England or Wtnes, on the Ist days of March in the tern. He (Sir Robert P e el) years 1837, 1838, 1839, 18.10, and 1841 ; stating the nion, and he f e l r t ra th e a d t , r e e I c l y o counts y n number of horses by which each was drawn, the place to had not been i , ne duties mere nat. justefiable . —( Hear. ) if as th e m c ig o h m t m h e a rc v e e ofn nat ural) the and from which letters arc conveyed by each ; the number expected, of eassengers which was allowed by law to carry; and the If the exii=ttidhnc" i g ree:ed the tradc into othez or incLrect chan- duties prevented the trade from mete is- terms of agreement entered into by the Post -office lei h ing t tile proprietors ef each such conveyance for the conveyance nets, or r e i y f of Denmark refused to adhere to the provisions G e vernment Were bound to de:nand their reduction. If of letters, and for what period.—Ordei ed. entered . into wilt it, he ( Sir Robert Pee!) SOUND DUES. or the treaty • dy in that House interfering to strengthen saw no impropric Mr. II [ITT presented a petitian very numerously Ft'ei ' the hands of the Ministers in a remonstrance to the D. by merchente, shipowner:, and other inhabitants of Hull, nish Government.—( Hear.) There were many reasons why complaining of the dues now levied on British vessels pass- tie Danish Government should be anxious to preserve a ing the coast of Denmark. The Hon. Member then . seed good understanding with Great Britain, and it tee mo he would call the attention of the House to the motion of meant tion were now withdrawn he could not help thinking that which he bad given notice on that subject. H e the h.ie the manifestation el opinion from all paths of the House to refer to those taxes which were now levied by tbe Kin a g - which had been clici el would produce the best results, of Denmark on British vessels passing between_hich be cons- without pushing the matter to an extremity. If the Hon. tegat and the Baltic Sea. The grievanoe• unknown al the Gen leman found that the existing neget, at'ons failed in planned of, although he believed it wastnoorthe House. 1..- producing a pruee: result, then h: had toe power c f bring. Foreige-office, wan comparatively new w become a subject ing the question forward again, and lie (Sir Robert Pc, l) deed so far as he was informed, it had never however, be ' for one, would be should net, however, ima- prepared to support the motion in tho ef dieeussion its Parliament. It sh , . of t li'nfenature, event of the appeal which would be made by the Noble the evil was aes 1 , gine], on that Becount, that industry or the general welfare of Lord, who as the represeLtative. of the Biiiiah Govern in regard to cur national tin 'cal cause of the silence i meat, failing to ircd • tics the proper result. , the eotltitry , lil hclieved that ~~~:~_ ~~ , 4 +` MOWNINtI - .E.I ) 411 SW RE vras sure try? Ittat , : r it was Ge M ni r lem L a h n ß h?d U rr C is il un E, :V , t 3ed hi s intention ;to ;:urgli s d a - e tl g t n hat o f the o Nog o e ve lgt in d ei l i t t a c a r l ' r uon the Danish Goverament withoutjustit. , el7,. , ' an p d propriety of putting an end to His Noble Fiie id was, hr? believed, extremely that these representations should be made Without deiay: If the Right Hon. Go, t'eman ar t :pea - A to think that because these grievances were cf lorg staniirg it might Lo advisable to depart from the usual d_urse and adopt an ad dress to the Crown, there might be some weight in that argument if application had bean made to the Danish Government, and that t hey had neglected or refused to at tend to it; bt..t in justice to the Danish Government - he must say that no rej rcsenta.ion had been made to it ti I last year. Ile did not think the Government to blame in not having made the r.. , p e;entation, Lecausc, in pc int of fact, their own attention ha?, been only re cently called to it, by the remorst - ances of the merchant: of Great B:i ain. He rgrced with the Right Hon. Ger- t!eman, that it was necessary viat these mks should be revised and altered with as little ?elay as possible, and he had no doubt that Vie negotiations then going on would lead to a sFe •dy and satisfactory conclusion. In the r-•- nionf.trat c..,.t0 the lianish Gov rament, they stated that it would b.: desirable that these ruLtt•r3 should be brought to a conclusion Lc! ra the opening of the nav'g ttion. Cor.- sidering that these tills and dues wete of a s , ,tremliat com plicated natorc, Vie Danis , 3 Gavel nu cat had xprcsEe.: its readiness at once t., make a coatession on some of those points which piesbed trot upon the c.;mmerce of that country. These conce4;:ons were ina!equa'.e to the just e cm ,,n(ts of that country, but consido:i.ig the mann,r in which they had b,:en ettereo, and it bring stated ti.at they were not made fur the purpae of intcrpceing chliy, her Mai2sty'a Gc,vernment bad Lit it their duty to express the rsa i f.ction at the propasti, and to accept it. Under . . • these circumstance', be thought his Hon. Friend would best consult the interests of the Cammerciil community, by withdrawing - his motion. Mr. A. WHITE said that the subject was one of vital importance to the commrreal into rest of filo:country, and tLey %vete much irwiche I to his Elan. Fr;end for. brit grog tFe subject forward, but of or the statements of the light Hun. Genleman, ha thoug't:t the mast judicious ceurso would be K ithd.aw the metior. M. PEASE hoped nothing would be left undone by Go%erune,t to bring about the entire aboliion of those duties. The merchant-v.5.,.e1: were obliged to go through ell sorts of obeisances by lowering their Llagf, &c., b. IKe the Ca , ; le of Esiecur, which wi s fccquently attended w t't great dill and inconvenience. Another great cause f delay and embariaisment er fr..m fie Custom House officers requiring a of ercry article in the packeger. Alr. VILLIERS said hr hid ❑o doubt his lion. Friend would are tte propriety of allow;vg tie prcvi ius que , t.on to be non carried. According to what had teen sta'ed lay the Right Hon. Gentleman the I ) , e,ident of the Board of Trade, — the concessions maJe by Denmark were quite inadequate to sali,fv the just demands that were mr.do. lle bore! his 'floe. Friend would persevere in hi s ctfurts to remedy the abuses con,plained of till I e saw his views worked out. That was not a mere E• question, but one in which the ‘ih word was intereAzd. Other nations wcr.. looking now to whet E - glaud would do iu ti oma ter. Those does were a s candal to the whole world. Eng:a:id miglr es well ee% to establish Channel dues on all goods th: . t were imported into this couutry. Mr. HU IT reil cd—He trusted t`•.at a quarter of a year wuull nut pas away lefire the Noble Lcrd would be able to announce to the House that he had concluded a treaty with Denmark by which the dues would be reduced to their leAa! form. But in his opinion the dues mig`et in some way or other be abolisl ed altogether. The p•e , ious ques'ion was then ca.ri .d. PETITION OF WILLIAM BAINES Mr. EASTHOPE mcvsd that the psi i in of Wm. Beinen now a priaoner in the gaol cf Leicester, pre sented February 2, he minted and circulated with the Votes. Mr. A. WliIT F. seconded the motion. ' Lord 110 WIC K inqui-e I whether the petition had been ordered by the Committee to be printed? Mr. E A STil OPE replied in the negative. It was his intention to submit a motion on Thursday next on 0 e sub ject of the f etili in. The petition had rot Leen printed, and, therefore, he thought it was only fair to the House that the petition shod 1 1 e in the hands e f Memb:re. Dr. NICHOL—WiII the Hon. Gentleman state the terms of his motion ? Mr. EASTHOPE could net state the precise terms of the motisn; but it would be founded upon the contents of the petition. Lord HOWICK had thought the Hon. Member had stated no suffix ient case to justify the House in ordering V.e pet tioo to be printed with the Votes. The Committee which had been appointed on the subject of printing peti tions made a strung and unanimous representation to the House thl-t the petitions should not be printed with the Votes except in cases where the subject was not only to be brought under tl.e considcra•ion of the House, but where it was a matter of passisg and urgent rezesfity that it should he brought in. —( Hear, hear.) The Hon. Mem ber had stated that the petition had not been ordered to be printed; but from anytt ieg that had been hitherto stated it might be inferred the Committee on public petitions was not aware of the intention of the Hon. Gentleman to bring the subject forward. If any intima ion had been given to the Committee that the subject would Fe subsequently brought under consPeratien of the House, no doubt they would have ordered it to be printed. The flee. Member had not shown that there was any particular urgency in this case, which could justify the House in departing front the rules which had teen laid down —( Hear, hear.) It was obvious, from the number of similar notices rebirth appeared in the Votes, that if the House did rut set its face-agent:A the practice, and resist the attempt to &pert from the general rule, each 111 r mbcr would think his own case most important, and would . ..Link the application of his own ecnstiturnts was one which ought to be specially at ended te, and in that . manne-, lit le by bole, a rule would be broken which had been found to work with great advantage.—( Hear, hear.) As no case had been made out fe. acceding to the mbtior, he feet bound to oppose it. The best way would be `or the floe. Member to bring the subject under the conside ration cf the Ccmn i tee upon petitions, and he had no doubt that neat vccek it would be ordered it to be printed. Mr. EASTIIOPE Laing concluded that there could be no possible objection to the printing of the petition under the circumstances of his basing given notice that he intended on Thursday to found a motion upon i', be did not imagine that it would have been necessary to occupy the House by stating the grounds on vvllith he moved the petition be ;Tinted. The petit'on conts ieed a mere stateater t of the circumstances aid the causes which had led to the c .r,firrement of the petitioner, and the time he had bees confined, and prayed that the House would adopt some measure Le the purpose of releasing him from his confinement. On two occasions the Heure had declared that the cause of the petitioner's confinement ought to be removed, end he only asked that the subject should be brought before the House, in the hope that it would lead to some pr .ctical reins'. Thinking it would be a great severity on the petitioner to tell him that his piteisn should not be prince', so as to meet the eyes cf every Member of tee House, he must press the printing of the peritior, and if it wns op posed he should divide the House upon it.—( Hear. j Mr. WARBURTON hoped the motion of his Hon, Friend would be acceded to, for it came 'distinctly within the regulation which the House itself had laid down. He should be exceedingly jealous of restricting any further than it was alread y restricted, the ri g ht of de bating on petitions; then:fere, he did ho p e that the petition would be p rinted and laid before the House pre vious to the day when the debate on the merits of the petition would come on, Lord STANLEY s,i I he confessed tbat whether the House acquiesced in the motion for printing the pcti ion or not, he thought the present was not a case in which the subject of rietieg or not printing came under con sideration. The petition which was the subject of dis- PetitiAaticirgousttt;tarcetdigthhheet cussion was presented on the 2d of February, four or five days sf.er the opening of the session, and consequently one to which the attention of the Com mittee for printing petitions was immediately di rected, yet, up to the present time, they had not printed the petition, although others of more recent date were printed. The natural jefer ence to be drawn from that was, that in the petition itself there were some grounds that led the Committee to eb stain from printiag it. Ile was not aware that there wcre eny lion. Members present mho took an active part hi. that Committee, arid could theretore inform hints (Lord S-atn; ley) I , llp.th!r there were any grounds for the Cont s r i ' h t a r t, nut printing the pitfall. He would wish to. s . k e r ee . they le c terse if tnere were any such grounds h i e ° g o i ti ' m ' now , r _ would form a tt. ong• argument against : i t case, bewever that dirarg the petition to be praitc ( '• the :ranll 3uhs he trusted hu l ti j a : c wc e o d u e id to di t r ? cht re t with the Votes, for the use of t Mr. E ASTHOPE said he had petition to be printed a Members only. d no objectian to the adop. ruction of the Hon. ' Gen_ lion of that coAs T r 6 ERE said that the difficulty which t e i e r t m o o t f th w e h p ic c h . Mr. LAB s , petition was to be pr.iletoendteunin-: il w a., that he apprehended the rule of he a in ole c j e imp tionincet that : 61 th r e ien the i l l e e ss f :l i -I: te.;buia?d: Borne d fn i r L e c e .'! n h cl a i i g i u : v a e l n r e n f o c t r i e c n e e . e t i e! tition scenic a g an ewe. --- e d s e cret our. True e t r h a thoPschtonuard. be w ooed, in gasser was trul' • in his motion to 0 ' - and i w if as h a is pe H r. o f . e n c o t u ly rab si l ..ht F t : h . d petition„e what the nature cf the comp'aint made by the peti tioner wa'. But if the imoi m was a mere general ore on the subject of Cherch-rater, he thought that they could oat; riso. 7:les,. no t, w:thout infringing on the rule made in those es direct the psi: tang of the ecti ion as of course. H c e as eid think that it was of importance that they ought tceadhere to whatever rues wets; once laid down, not only with respect to pettions on which, such as the present, cer• fain feelings were entertained, but also with respect to those on which no such feelings were experiedeed. -Mr. B ROTH Ewr ON said that the rule of the Com mittee for the printing of petitions was, that no petitions from iad.viduals should be printed unless they complained of personal griavancss. When petitions were of a gene ral nature, it was not considerect necessary to print them. Mr BAI N E S sail that the Hon. Member who had just sat down declared that petitions were not printed unless they compl iced of some is , sen a' grievance. Now, if imprisonment was not a personal griNaneF, a u nd a very great one, toe, he ( Mr. Baines) kre;v not what . as a . I et-- woell hardly do justice to i venal grievance. The House of . publication the pet,- its own feelings if it withheld the ..eesttry Intormation woul i d pria e t the petition, and tion on which the motion was to be grounded ; for the real qoueersetbioynowbtaasinwitthremt h,ecyv,s Hon. the : Gentleman, . relative to the m otion of fee T. DUNCOMBE concurred with the Right Mr. Gentleman the President of the Board of Trade as lion. to the propriety of strictly adherir g to the rules laid down relative to the subject under discuseion ; end, in accord ance with these rules, he (Mr. D.) mainteined that the petit; „ o ught to be printed. In February 1939, that House bad come to a decision as to the necessity of adhering to the established practice with respect to the presentation of petitions that had been laid down, by the Speaker, The flume divided 'on the incasions 1 0611 tbore was a susiority of 148 to d alluding MEM MI i' ard e l 00 0 siiv er• cree d ,i t ion o rc?' iod 1 :i sfor F31 1 e 11 ! gas 11 " 1 jail tO t- - rdos ,~..