The Sun. — London, England, 1816-03-28 00:00:00

- til the mike of Treasurer ,of of Greenwich. Mr. itANKIIS recomme . oded that the subject should be considered in a Committee. Sir JOHN NrAvrowt argued, that the Treasurer of Greenwich tiosp;tal should vacate his seat. Mr. B. lIATItu.esT thought that, if Parhament Lad decided that ,a particular construction of the Act was fair and ,true, that decision should be abided by. The Governor bad no more relation to Military or Naval affairs than, the Treasiit6'ic 4krni die sante principle might 'riot be a pplicir to them both. Mr. PoNsoNnv Contended, that Patli a me n t h a d lrie~is „ OPei .lon. flue mere acceptarree of an Otlice would not-vacate any Hon. Member's seat, to4si question should be-raiied in the liouse. Ile sliould . not press, however, for .an immediate tins subject : he thotight,"on the eon tiniy,'7that tlielloose were .boUnd to consider it delibethely, ati'd litltt tire litist' way would be 'to appoint n Committee, to report recedents, and then deliberate tition the subject: • Mr. 13, lia'rui;asr had nu objection to the course now proposed. ' Mr: WYN'tirt did" not mean to press his original tnlotinit : the flouse, howe'ver, should tllie 'care in what situation they placed the pun: Itlemlier ; farif an action .tvre brOttght ag . ainst'llitit in the Votitt of King' , 'S'llerich; to receiver the tenilty; of Retying" 'etuted svithoitt'aq right , the re laxation an Net Of 'Parliainent Would tine be admittedinjostitleationd conduct.. then hiswithilicttd motion, anij another, viz. That 'a Committee be : ',ippeinte d' to' inciiire i nto tlie'precedesits 'of the appointinent. cif . Naval and Military OilicerS,"'Meinhers of tlfat, fintise, to'si - (nations 'of profit itnitBr tilt! Crown', arni 'their cell ' lini , ong to'retain their sears after the saute. Mr. 13gt4riii expritined, •rirot 'the motion IT Ail/reed to; m :tiodliie Committee was appointed.' Mr. Iltiotio'tiA3i the number cif Itivertor‘ of Trt*eti alluded to ti) a former ing were intended' Or be continued ?. ' ' , • The Cit.otcattott of the EXe . HEQUHR answered, tlott these Gentlemen Ina 'certain ditties to per notwitlAtatiding the abolition Of the likomd could riot therefore say 4C present'whe -:ther are alieratiOn would be inade. •' uef thirtr- reading of the ..111aiik Advance Bill waa'pthtvond till Friday. NAVY' 'ESTiMATEs. CHANt:Lt-ii'y of the EXCHFAUEIt having moved that the House resolve itself into a ("Am.. mince of §,ttitidy,,to consider the Navy E.timates, r.orit'PoUSTiirrig said 'he wished, before the 'Chair ileitt i left;•l6'call the atten'tiun of tJt& House. to what haq passed on a former eveni ng , w h en an vilind of tteeitied ittinplted tiver , hy;tli Gehilerriati eippOsite, rfsiteCting a fiat IWiik4l - sald'abb6( the Enintits and . Cydnits. ineorrect iiformarion, ihat ihOse'sfiUatee 'yards, and the Right lion. Gentleman:NT. Rubinson) had turned iiliseiqtiligni - No ridicule, because • thP44'et -was, that 'they ‘tere built in the Nler ,.. 0'40 4 ' boa ever, he would contend; no iiihtiiit3tion' of. the. Admiralty, at 'ts,itont, his. Honourable Friend -haul brought . his chatge of Hegira; for it was their di;ty to 'Ste . '',t4at - they ssvere perfectly .cmiltructed, whether they were bnilt in the King's yards or not: ': it WaS true they were - not built in the King's yards, hat it was eritnilly true--t bat the timber of . Whieh they were formed was supplied by . Govcrinitient, and therettqc the blittlfr teas much greater on the than'irtlitic built in the King's ,ylllll/4Ry To say that they mere - built in - tire ger chants' yards, was no 1111S•Verat alt r ti?oilg11 it hid 't . )edt . i . : w fiAloeii by stieli gn ecrai,cheerink. Thit ihe — tintlier was furnished by - Government, lie -stated on the aothority of the ''EStitnittei ,of the veer 1813. • ;Ywiiliell to,Ask; Whether,. after all the experience they bad had, they did apt 501 continue to build shiPsfront the very same lots of, tittibir;?- 7 (N0,;n0 . ,. frowthe Ministerial •aide and bear, beat, from the Oppobition). ftte merely wished to set thetinarter right,' anti t 0.4": rreciite 4 . 0e1i sort Of sir,teineutr as were nitrite in iirliWer to remarks made only 'for the public bed' Mr. Rom NsoN said, he4mly undertook to shew, lU'uns'wer . to.the Hon; Gentleman (sir, Wiring); . that the Shies . were not built in.the King's Yards. It've."alt an aecidentarpoint Which bad arisen in ifie . debate, and the lion. Gentleman woold have ibund It explained if lie had looket! . inthe to . any triumph 3'l:king fiom the lion. Gentleman hating been P. e t right, he believed . no. body but the Gentlemen on the opposite side con- stdeted it, so. ,flespectiug the timber, he :conkd spy nothing abont.i.it, as he was not in, the Ad.. , wiralty ut tit,. Time. " Lord FoLt; STONE yeelied, that the Right Hon. ,Gentletztan nut ticierilteless • have seen 'by . the Eslimat'es, tite . .thither was furniiited from`the Yards.• - 111rAIA RING said," it tins no satisfaction tObim or to the"eocntry to know where' these veisels were built • but it wag itillWA.ible folme;tr'elieleCt,, tirat ihine'veimels, in 1813, were in no state foe ticrvice.; . without being toriviiscuil of the t i re' e molltgetrthe of the Admireltflioard. i" . Cnoktim explained, that - the' timber came' from, Russia. - - If fveim' 'mottl.pos ernment thongtt t hat it - wohld tie 100 cable• to employ* to build ftigites ‘o,lth all eosiible expvilitinn, ,oppout those wimiCh . the etfetny was so rapidly ramming Ito • the Bin the fact was, thatAltevrality of thesame lots •Of timber often materially differed, and though 'the frigates iii question were titisontid, sham otherti - which were bgilt of It were extremely good. Vet`it hod hecn • • SX:C rt , ca st 61)11)3 - built Of u erne go to' decay. • • The nous* then Went, lot° the Committee, when - f • ' • - • - • . -r; (Ibtfel'VCil, that as thq Gen tlemen oplitivirt'lititl &elated; th:lt on' the' 'sub ject of the ekin'ges' fOri ('irili)ep.tr!tnent of the Navy thefiverenOt ibelioe(t ti) oppme any thing which they Inlgibe deem'. nucebsarlilni...th e setvice,lllcy onght - not to ass'unte that t4e Ilan/wit cr.titrs'e charge d must" beceistitirily ; tSiart'in the" , • „- %. litst's , earol peace itestll what 'they were ly tticjitat yeti' :of '''Ohr."' fie . ' trusted (lor•ge iti these Et;thri:ites, awl every iteni, could, bo ex- . orehe • *taltil Oa a kinaer everting, thargreai rucl.;:tious Were in contemplatitin the fureigii yards, as a liteCtiSdi y coosequence of peace, lie did not, op 7 prebend that a reduction could be made Heel), in the Victualling Department, for in sonic instance; „au would he necessary, tp bring „ • ,and settle'' the arrears of tfie war. K g /Rain:4 tita.allO‘iiatice tor the IV idoiv.ai Charities, the' sum ,o1:;46,0001. Wes prOposed - to b'e voted; as a great , c'reritiction-liad'breit matlelie the fund by the reduc tion ot the number' of seamen from 140,000 to '33;000; *hide depriVidit of the prOiliiiereCeiied from their wages, as well as from that niche fietitmus men, which were taken hi the proportion (If one out of every hundred. The ex penditure of the fund was 86,0001.iind it. Wit) eessary to apply to Parliament for 40,g001. to Make up the diliciencii thili'oceaSioned. The lion. Baronet theirinstified the inuMilto' thebesildlng and repairing..of ships, and observed that the system of building and repairinghs the king's yards,' tieees 'Sadly brought along with it a great increase of the :;public wi'srks. -Flestated several 'reductionsthet ,hed already been 'merle in different pints, amongst which . %vas a saving at Chatham of 30..0901. ; ':an`d concluded with moving the first lte , .,olution ' which was. for 'the' strui - of - 1.6f1',6101. 10s. 9tLitre de- Jraying, the expenses „of the Oeitinary eitimetes, the. salaries of the Officers of the Athol ealty and Navy Pay.Ofliees, those of the Officers of thsetoitptirt Cann yards, the chaplains, the, eXil , llBcii of repairs, bounties, Btc. - ' • Mr. 13.% (UN° was of opinion, that it wns impos sible for the Committee et, proceed in the manner now suggested ; for if the votes were,virted iti the, :aggregate, it wohld he qiiiielnipOSsible to collect them afterwards together. lie •iiiggested to the Lion Baronet to deviate front the plan proposed, and to begin by' Voting the 61 ,0001. fur the Ad mit and eirkteuntler distinet bends the other sums, so that it' might be understood what Wilt; the intention of Goeernment on the subject., Captain .1. Pei:CeVi'alludell to the offiees of Pav master and Secretary of Widows' Pensions, 'the dirties of which, be tlitufght, might lie perftirmed by one person,. The number ,of - Consteissiotters tend Clerks might alsd he reduced. in the Navy 'Par Office there *ere 165 Clerks, a nonsber'mileh ecrodarge, as -Witis that; of - the Surveyors, as tbe duty in the docklarde could not authorisani he ceping'ilp of the War establishment. Ile alhol ed to the- foreigo yarn s 'odd expressed his appro. bat bus ot. the , intention to - reduce the t a. ''There co,old oot be sn Hutch to do in the Victualling Dee Parttuent ifc. not. to .11114, of a mateii li retinction. Retipeeliiig the WidoWs' Pensions, lie reinfinied the -.o6atmittee 'that he had'.sirie . tline:)igo ruts Veil foe copies ot Affidavits ttken by the , . Widows of eel's of, the Army and Navy, iii order to slim the great oiteere-ilee , eh:eli,eeisted betwe en t h e two services, inltonst of re muileratinti,". These would prove, that the latter service had molt serious groiiiid of etonpaiiit, as the Widows, were sub jected to very Severe hardship ;. and lie called 'Ou the Lands of the Admiralty to explaiii. why such a difference . eNiSt. The Widow Of ' COloitel the Antic, let her eireton itances he - vvysit they might, hail right to receive hter pension,' while the widow ofn Captain in the, Navy, it possessing nit income by any' means Of double the amount of her peniifiti, 1800. world' be permitted to' recce it ited she •wa obliged-to' roake`ottili to this effect,' The Officers of the Navy werematerially interested iu this par-' tiulity, for they began to coinfibiitcr out of their, pay to this Etiotl-froto the minimise 'they received their commissitiht, .anti it they dim and left their widows more-draft :180i: 'a year; they' twilit not receive the 90t. to Welt their husbands' had 'Coe. tributed.-Aiite it might, be saik. cleat "'Officers of 'ht . :Army , 'pureirrieed conimisiiona this, however, he .coneidered to , he a 'great'''arivantagc in their 'favour j . fOr•It1411) ., Officers would he glad tOgivetilmostimy suits if they Enrchase , 'prontotiotr; .-Fleshould not oppose:the stimates; becaustehe . ki.,ew that 11111.1aiers -in tended- to make all - passible reductions. ' 'The Gallatit Captain ellen entered into a comparison of the difference of half-luty'iu tlae tivti terOitel; and , ealled' on the 'flouse, With'alt theifle4lttig of's:mutiny, to do jostide.th'the Navy' in this In , teresting particular. Tie contiotied•With alluding to the deflation' of the midshipMen,' s' 'deserv ing class of eskers, for 'whom 'every thing that was Consistent onght to beidone's 'end expreiied his:grsttifiCatintr tut finding that Ril had b:.'en pro moted who.wete above eight years'stantliti, With only 4mr. exception; Which he' had tin . doubt Was owing to someerrontous tootle of applientiOti. '" 31r. PoNsoteit was most anxious that the COni. mitree should pursue the 'course that Was adopted' with the Army Estimates', by voting each serviceby to .understand .theirnetessity. ''ffe no• solid objection to this'mode oil the °Mei:Side of , the •1-fortse; and 'nothing would' lead More to . the economy 'f which 'they . professed 'themselves' desirotis, :than to enable the 'l4snse'io 06(106411nd' each pat tienlarston they - were :caned- on qtAvote,' anti then if excesses were - sekiltertikht be op• posed, therefore hoped'llterri'(*ottld be' no objection is vote in the weringekired. S;r G..WetteteNoeit wislitetthe Wm. to be voted'' ; for the ordinary Estimates altogdther; as , eliey.'ree' hated ,almest, entirely to the'Civil Departments: lie " trusted this first head,' voted toketheri' answer the Right Roo, Gentlemen's "tortoise. 'Mr. PONSONSY - replied, 'that there were' 18 dj- Vi6ionic 'limier the heard of the-Firit,• end, be should propose that eac h of these be vtited rattly:, Then, if Gentlemen thOoght, that, where 30,0601, was: proposed, , 26;0001. Wits saiffieient; they could' express . ' their opiiiioni, and leaver the 'necessity of the larger sitticto be explained•'''' Laird CismattEman. 11101%04 the vi'aa a little distinetirin between the proposition ' befae. the House, anti Thu rest thAt -were.' to (attire e their might be eonsideeable Inctinienienee in-depertitigfeom theortiitiary mode as me 'As . had been tioneln the ease ut the army. ;If did lionse' had pursued that course with respect to thearitiy, Ise' did not feel diet ie,warr'a pi eeedent frir the navy. It appeared to hint that ;bete &oil& be nolietter eourse than to take the lireilehes nfier'Vice as they were numbered, It,. however, the Itinse thou h t othereviee, he svoiddSiiggest to t a k e the 61004 h. first; and , pfoceed with-the' other htuals stobd-i Mr. PoNsollay hoped, that as tine was the Most useful stud couvcnient mode that could b the House Would agtee to ) and fill low it. TitinNet wished to Jake ibis opportenity of.reminding the .secretaty of, the Atinti.riticf on what the cliatge against him (Mr. T.) of lolling male an eftraortlinary error on a former evening arose. Ilit . moppsitioq, wasth ...at with respect to the Civil I epartments pf the Navy, there was a considerable increase ] witenflte . lti g hdi n n...fiest? TifiitiseA to say ] that it h e h a d taken the pains to examine Into the subject,. he would have discovered (lint' there - vtias always art in" crease in the first year of - a peacce, Ile persiSt ed that the very. oflieet which had been melt; 6 1 11 0 . 1 04 . hvell uniformly_increased, frrint the, peace of Utrecht. llosynwards;--Fle knew that the brdinary"Estimatek 171.3^,„eXceeded 'those of 170, by'2ll'6o6l. This . increase, was,' nit dilubt,sexpriiiied iu the Sotii'ttals Of . the Muse,: which he' had' nut :,t his'etinii'innul,: and w ith out boOks One must niieesiarily be incor rect: But the later years" lie •eould state with .more accuracy. In' 171;2, 'tlie .l la'st yeat' of war, the 'expellees of the Admiralty' and Navy4l,f- t , tires were stated at 36,0931.. In .the following year,, 1763, the same departments were stated itt the same suns ex2etty, :;1/,0931, (.;Where then was the increase ? The nextarticle was. the D..)ek-,, Yards, where the amount for the respecriusears was pound for pound, exactly the sante..,The7 expenses of theoutports, were 5,3701, iu ot war, and in the following year, instead of io creai.ng, they were a few hundreds less. But this wasnot . worth spe4l:ing 'of ;, it Only. sheave(!that in Many of -the depaiquientS there •was nn II!. erefitle• caused by . a 'return to' Peace.. "chic Right Hon. Gentleman had Said; that in 1763', the Whole amount of the Ordinary Estimates was '380,2081. being an increase;oL)UB,oool. ; and so it was, but . 0)4 arose from the immense claims to be dis charged at_ that p riuti , and .had nothing to d o with many 'of the departnients, ,in which these had been no i ncr ease whatever. In the year 178.1; the last year of war, the expenses of the Admiraity,"and NayyUtlices•weye 37,9 . 131:amf in the year 1749, the fist year of ,l eace, they were only'344o4l.'Odd, ittaking,a;positi re decrease of 3,0001.. Ile had awed hefore, that 'in this, first bead they were going' to vote, there had been an increase ot 20,0001. principally fo'r the s3liu:ies • of clerks ; but on this he ktleW the Right I-lon. Gentleman would meet him with-the Order in Council onthorising,the % -But 'he lic i4oi the , Cololllittc'e - to conjdor 'the Itste iu which We' were without;:i v-olutt.,' it.wasHleemed necessary to n 0.!.,! this -arrange ment. for ihe increase ofii!.tri..s, before 17'ar, figment bad. had -out -.opportunity to considr - the subject, was beyond his . comprellititsion, rt:ty.ticiiiar ly before it w as k no w n become of t!)e Piopinft y Tax, by tlie of which .the cx istiug salariges would • have been iii(.ireased. 10 per cent. :'itirelk have keen us its for the result of the'relief t•kx: But tacit ot all. It W=ii With ennsitkrithle p:titt that he said any tiring that Mizht hurt the kyliogl 9 f •the,o Clerks, but -heintist theciondenitt,o jAltte it, which the Odin; had been done, before 'Pat Hanle tit had been eolhulted, Ire alloleil to the Order in' tonn6l to enable : lllv Majesty to male e 3nperan.: 411130005. There had been no redivtiotos' wortht ipeaking nf , though . 'thebuiness,ip, time ol'Peace, could not h.tf be otherwise 'than tualeri,illy 're duced, In the Admiralty, Navy l'ay, mid ViCtitsk ling Oilices, there were ni 1811, 4.1.5 clerks, and In 18ltf, 4'2,1, so that the' only, reduction was 24' between War 'atid Peace. But as to the Ties tion3 of their saltries--these amounted in:181-1 fo anti in 131 11p4r rite ne,v t . 6.01A(.101. ; so that, what the puldiei.,;•tined by the diminution of del ks, an increase 010,9001. If this t. alit ion . had snits Woof() hate been perreetiy,.4atislied,. anti the 24 clerks would not have been sent adrift, while we abblild have had I 0,0001. in our pock e ts. (Laughter) The tide' ettee between the,4lUOUllt oh the super-, anuationS in 1 1814 . and'1,810,e"-nti,11.1,99011 7 . 4,0 . , that the whole out-A:J:4l,g' . . t his.,xeqfeet Was_ about 15,0001. for no one reatio'n tiny. Gentleman etiuld -. explain. It wi t s nepess4l,-ttl'•e#ll 7 : an the house to a ty torts was . .l.erong - „^And;,siheAti4.they Wad' been' well treated by the. o . idev.cif,, , the, 311&h. Jtinuary last, the very thiyi . befures rire'niecting of Parliament, whielt appeared to be:proeirred . as if for' the ar as touch ,is to ,say, " Yon, have nothing to d(i oit h the snhieet, 1)0(1, the Seeretary of the Admit:ll;y, ,will make, what arrangement I please for,my clerks without tAing your orinion ! ," In . 1801, when most actively en gaged in war, the number of clerks at rite Admi ralty was only rs.4..teeen, and the jlonourable Secretiry bad now twt.ntyeight, oil f which lie had put in the 6t4hiiSittlietlt, frOtn which they could ' not beyentoyed, but 'for some ollence„ or neglect of duty, but were all travelling gratin-ally otp.iii% the highest salaries of office,: It Was itiposOle. that an increase of husi ness could have cansed this r, atisineutation„ and lie impel the Bigbt Hint. .Se.; crerary would.satisly.tlte Hose on the subject, .by something. 'pore tVan a mere' speech, and jitstily, what appeared an unneeeisary exite:►ilirt i t•c of inure than 10,0001: There 'appeared to have kern seven clerks dismissed trotn t tie Athnirulty on the Super ! , afnittitted List. - 066. or these_ was person .55 years of age, audit would. be admitted that every man 'of this age'ought to retire with it ,eompeteney. to ; 'but . andther was'in the prihie of life, being 44; but what w:is More extraordinary wa's the,case of a lad w lio come into the Office, qt . 15 'years of age, 'eight ogo i 'ciwi lie wag . .ll(4' phieed tiptitt this list ; 80 that in fact they .had.su perannuated a boy. If the. llnuse could 'bear . this, they could, 'hear any t , uni ; .. , Milier,lo nuate persons in youth, or the. prime' .of life, and give thein' three hundred pounds - a Year, ivas unbearableTrofusion, &id extrnvagance, knit! it wtis no insult . tO - the public to have Made such regiilatit)ns: 'Without the consent ,of Parlidarorit.— . The' Right Honourable Ginitientan - vveni, on' to - - contend thatt here WAS' oecessity for the increase of seilarke4, or the'toonber'of clerlt,s kept oil, ind Itfrer ° ritjieatiß fo:iity of forteti.4servati.:lll, tooriodeCt with ,exliressing his (lope th a t Omilinitit!e.trit,slßir's appointed, t o s if t. o w . finhject to the tkott ont % in the 'menu time, thelfeititomte s ; ,Or sot tnootns. TlteHtinse - ottot, in justi cA to the rbiinll-y, -to patttir on the Lxi)entlitotes, wratont iu any wely , toriplog tilt 110 , 14 xtrvieet 11. , " move, (bat the F:rst here luttion be wi litirrovv. flee rtne‘tion teas accordingly put and agreed to. Sir G. Witatltt , toEtt then moved the sum of 59,./231. for the Expetlees of the Admiralty 4th' cers for ISit; ; When 11It.iTittarmtv moved as an Attlehrittient, that the sOm of 2i1,8611. be substituted, being the halt of the amount for six months instead of the year. 111 r, CupKau asserted, In; had not deeelved tlid house in the statententi atliicit he hid male tin a „ittrine.F: evening, - in. which he -liail•retiresentettl at arilinalltstintates in the first year of Peace td exceed those - of the last y ear of . These,tha - Pon..:Gebtleaurn' had been C 00141.10 td admit, a , s Ite . ditrnid ilenV the tideiteilio'orinite mf o ognflice aiid of p tsfountictl„ilaiirett, liisfit i til . Imen, on.therecortli and . the House .u•oulil do liim.theitisfiee,to - not been :lin' fairly brituglit and it would be , seer]; that on -tiler biro +emit ot expoildieure . o the Right Hon; Gentleman Itad .. partiCulaily I ' l ' l6l , ~.thC had as front the MrinitteS 'thelist lilt) was stronger than ori the tiiiii . es" - `-it ; i : e 01.;,iotislY * r". l3 rged. On these,- itt-ralLt!'rat per'l'Ard, it would found - that -Gent sv as oct rertue:iort in 'the iirst Year after race; Ipic•mr the .ctititt'ai•y'therrre ostl•sitttt‘larsat: of t lie dr . i 6 ii . • if lid rout's[c...lnCl.titil—tinti...cinild possibly.. be. rtinde ie h t t i"i t t i ' ( 1 ) : 1 1 1 ) ey f l; hies •ti.ny thing like _ The Ht . no nyiKrtt...n.ity tear 1801.. • 211 -4 ; ; FtErt.qt , Y said, he {oil had ItCY mean, of re ' (*erring to the • Est4 . trotrs tie hod moitimied, ltut by )p(iking ',"•'liir , c I I i'lrest' gate Irin►.th.• rosy sumJNotcd, The Esti ni"tes or 1781, 178 . 2.; and 178S,iiel!a d " ()r re latik!tl at iiittr a view; to ! be !I 'l lt o i fa -V d c - a nt 1) r:)-11,:! fl n tl :; r e r l i intt ti i~ht` itotl. Caen the Estimates of that ye,tr e[..'OnOttly:lo 2., fr" ffic , I `;stn Admittlstratioo tie had , lostro" , ' • to , ally hinnelf. -Hail he'donc so, he intye . Triune{ that, on the two itViil tit wi)hdi he part': 'referred, the charge in 101 )5(.40041. - ; and - in the year ISO:2 it ainill•W:'4,.`"" c 2•10,0001. 'lle ought to slate* three ittn i4 might, be to, he. litchi - fled iii this char*!.' Ile too„ lif • state them l i t detail: -rtkeivitota •.c (iii the, firlinlry •I''. i tirrrates Oi.•11,'10( co at t , tic " II " 11 8. 114)0 i. In. the year OrY .antounied to: 119,,0001 - . For tlic chi rg . e in I ,0001 ; and iir.f?ti'',.for t r . .iPitt!e.serviee, 77.0401. '] To rt for. the ()ii,•-ittlrt' in I r W 4 N 7,004 411 -I 8 1 ;1.:,• it bad bte'.rt 0'0" to 1:;,40l: whOl v ; an liii t- 9C t►trun Ortlittitry : E , titit:ttes of . 40,0001., tettli"' the - list, :ditrelF" ti - ):11 ill whirlt pre.refied thetn, - inashitich us `rltCy ollvred if initiilltillott t)t eXpVileo to t'OC alllolllli or eel 01'500 . 01, while those of the . iffs't •ye;i,r ( q ' 11 , 4 (it A inieus. gave an in crease of near .o ,ooi as lie hail already ,Iteiett,:. lie did not acc""' - ,' h ` r : Administrations' of that day of extrava4ai.i'v , 001 li:e eokitettiled for % . 1 4 ;:, th a t ti lv. H4lc lll c" teltiGh he.hted just made •at mice overritr. - w th e prinia cane of the !tight I ton. lie Ile?t citlked the ititeot (Oil tit the 11!msratu rrie case of the Admiralty Clerks, in ernising that tita Act 1)a -yeti in 1810, whidi 'll‘a . (l hecir (lasir„,'4l nil the pre s ent occasion, had not, given I ike tron'o unlimited power witifl.respett to .the• salitriet of any of::the' titnot`ts emplqed uilller it. l'hat bail but . eirntianied the rights Nesied •S•P' vercign before; --- and cleared tip' that wilieli previoniktheCti indistirretiv rrafiged. ,pe.ik log of t' he alter ado!' Which 'had been. salarl'es. of thee -Clerki of the,Admiratty , the Iti),thr lloriourable Gmhtlr. , rinin bod,,paiii,lirto coMplirnent he wits sirre he (11,i. did Hot ti.csetve.•- ;le had reptesented Oil to trot[ been wholly eitetled by him' ( . ...\lr. Crirker), put the !tight lion. Gentleman . rims.'t know it corilt l not be d441,1e without• the coireurro . tee of the G.PfLI2II - In. 181 I, the distresS cirthe . Cleilis ' -. ' 101% great, that sure ail memoriiirs . . front them to the TTeoury, but.these, at a per k ' d. . l : l l t e pensive that trot;, it 1 ": 7 8 : t h i CI trot lic Bi o !vA se e?; In 1812, an. mono - able -- 8 5 1 fflicti Ittrhooe Mewber t i f l o g r ril " O F.e f 6t tt l e i I g ri t t t ;i r l r h o ° , I e is y 'a , s , , 14 1 1 !; 1 V 4141;111)! !flitted:A.l'lo(4)l'4o the Eloose,t he ohjett !vas to Obtain for the Admiralty Clerks an '4141 41 . 6e of salary. It was then objected • to, but a1 9 : 9- , to setts !lase ‘va given that. the subject should be attende d pace was resumed, or a more favoltrti b . le the like[[[. Baronet btoitgiit tltu bonne _a~ttirr under the consideration of the Itottse; - -anaf fie st'a 9 informed tiptt ilicl,tiries into - themerits Of 11 )( "e" 8 ` . , wertilhen in. 'progress, whitda when . cottniltr te(i' wotili) bu tnltte* * pti,blic. The Most nrintite',in v.e° °; gation of , the ciims ot'ail the individuals conc ern°. ; had b(;etiter - o .a n foot, anti no question had Vier been more del:bciately entertained. The .rcloit . or the I,rot4.eslings .itiititit.tett had beet) taiia !• it wa4,.eletrrlY' ascertained., the sHlwries of many of 'tiro Navy Clerks were ao that they bled their wretcherl'pri4iessors to lire., The CaSP: of The lower. classes of them was partiettlarly tle... plorable,. and Their misery so extreme . , that it nii',lntiga - p;).,sible io leluke to do sohiething for Three p lt sn for their relielhad Igen tot• . der consideration. it liad.heen proposed that the— saiaries giecii should I/VW:6Olle on the d4att iodir vidiitri first filtered the office, a$ it wol'ild'he to - • • - (I:iv ot'Fils (lend) if he CM! I ;nue(' ift that b44latton. A . second . plan was, that an ine'reaie nt•satatt should im . 'gken in proportiini to the length or tieryiee of the clerk. Neither of tiowee"er, [ were iti)prni:tUliatid':atli•trd; 4-hie!) united purls` 1. of both plans,. hatt been adopted. The ,- titirtiOiti v and natritnum which Were .to be' tbefr ;Nod , ' we:re - fixed by this:: the -minimum netts to . . b* ~1001. per annum, and the i .nui.tintialt the higlicst. • salary: which bad beet) heretofore lt'td--Fu i 1 he ~was nut 'aware' that ,there Was arty- de ' viatiou from just economy. A fairer distrihnti''' l \t:ls' made of fte ,rewards beretufore'grantcil , 111.4 :an 1 ):,,I) viciil,llol to relleim .the ,extrettitt diti" tyres pt the ioWrce classes of them. The mittiPl u l ri t . - Leas 1001. - per annum, with a yearly 101, Vin° 6 - 1 or 62 yea's, not, of hie but. in services the summit of the whale might be attuinc(l4:lll*- iticliritlualwould tlien sec:live Stfol, per annUtil,