The Sun. — London, England, 1816-04-04 00:00:00

vertre neatly-4ns numerous ris they were rintv : _rtl)( l l' - thoictlit•anch arrangements mighr e t tslie he switle .Irt the retluction of the '‘Yar . , Ditart mein to he attended Avith na ineonvt, itienee. The business of Ceylon, the,Alattritios, And. the Care, he. transferred to t;ie. Petard o'-ContrtniF. Ile tlid.not•propo'e to turn Ihe ,Minister adrift ; he. only wished him to be ttansf erred from his prcsent sit nation, which otu:1.11 to Ice at an: end With the war., to an olliee which teas now vacant. RV 111114 filling up the.office in 'tines, inn ,a saving . of 12otr 14,0001, might be t:ffeeted, Ile %visited forthe establishment of u colonial de. . partment,witioitin East India matters slneeldsnpur , sede the. BOard-of .Controtil, or he wished the places he haduaincel to hi' placed tinder that Boar 4, ';iod the (,I tier bosineisof the (',olonielii transferred to the 1 tome Department , The, IVar Deptut , tly itt had lot its 'unctions ; the businOss OW Mime Department was. rondo diminished; . and Itas it. to be contended' that for their labours lit the war, they acre 10 have a sort of 11011 day, and that , Lord liatherstly littablislintent was to be coll.,: tinned, though lie 105(1, not: halt the duty to per. 'fond, when formerly attached to his office ?, It was not neeessary that this should he kept up at an riopense to'thc country of 8 or 90001. per ?wilful, or prcperiii t,pe:Ahiog 12 or 13,0001, lithe Ilon,e eoniel titiA tlti.a wits desirable; he should only be sorry that he (tad giventhein any wad r ile,mootit the matter ; lie tlyught they would not do their duty it they did not endeavour to dimicisit the expendit toe • of the'cotiOrry, by rerineing weless•establishmenia; it saving might-be effected in toe present instance. • lie could see, nodifiletilty of .103 k iag the red ictioti NviliChlte'' had sitggested, it 4103,Nattritins, and the 'Cape were placed tinder .th'e !lean cl of of if' a Colonial Department were es- A1)11 . 4101' instearhof that. Board, toiriar6 the ex - tcase , of which the East India Company could Pay wino they note paid to support , the Board of Con ,s'iront Ile concluded by moving an Addre'si to Regent setting forth, that his faithful , COIIIIIIOIIS. relying on the asutrance gtx.en by his " Royal flightless, that he %void(' be disposed t0.c00.. euritt 'nil 111Cat , IIICS atf CCOtloluy C(Miiistellt the safety of the tonntry, humbly prayed !!sat his toYal'lligliness would he pleased to ttirlet that &Vision in 'the (Alice of one of the Secretaries of State, ntade•in the year 1794, In consequence of the Pressitre of the War, whirl) .had eaased the War -llepartin&t, , to he should ht' (lone • 'firefly, and tbe'olfices ou the .same l'uoting Ax itt '1793.: 11Ir Gout,autts contended it would be bud po licy tt`f alter that system , -td-bieli Bard been mitch Advantage to the Colonies, The inctease of linshicss, which had'erown out of t {reacquisition , the %val., made the Department, which the tiOtt lion. Gentleman , bed proposed to tedium, °fie, of 'grOat imin , rtance to, the Public., and one ‘vitieit omelet flot be reduced with 3drantar..jt , tray . the'cloty of Faighoul to protect the ,Coloults she cri(inii. , ;(l - , :111(1 11 , 1 icss so.to give then a good bi- it ttt.tl Cieev v rotment, It miqht, be very, con% en lent to tAlk iU tlll4,couwry of giving our, lot vigil ter the bail, or the third of ,a Mini ter; 116; how wneld - such au , arrangement stieet the wishes of the Colonies wotild not he treating then With that 'consideration 'which 0)0 ,had tight to' expect, to' tqty• that they ought not to Bove their re,eponSible-Minister, If the Im.iitesS of the Colonies ivere csarritsd to,the•lloure:Depart !tient, he: could riot-hat think flitr domestic,con ,, tvritS WOtild 'SO Iretptently gain 'the 'pretetrnee, ' hit out ititereits:Artridd iyinn mat: bc:o tHenfally 'attended ,ro. Iliad not thatebcelwe re ade • hich tad taken , place in the colonial tninitration, the condition of the l'lnelt 7 popula thin could net er have been ao t ellutottett, so, stic- CCHllily as. it had been. ; Ile was. sittilstql tha! tipon the whole it must be seen, the inconveul. Ctit•i:r it itch wo. , ,,,hlresult from the adopt ionof.the Ol Mt' It Ight , LSun.. (ientleman , would he . eritripensAted the 1.4,190Q1. which. he tir.opoUrto save. The :saving which the Tl4O. tientkina it would propose, only amounted to )'2,0001. at the-very utmost, exol l udingthe v.eitni iti; ration which would he, required for t bost c~lei Ls 'Who'biol• served a long time. On the whole, it evident, that tvitli,tuteparate department. the 'colonies' could not be prriperly -governed.. Those 'tnOit-iinpottanvquestiortr.tshicii would freluently 'occur between the Legislative Assemblies and the Ciovernoes . ot re Colonies,: could only be decided by a perion at the head of sock a department, and 'could not possibly be settled by any Under Se cretary, s's the Right lion.. Gentleman supposed!. It. woldd be most unwise and inexpedient to risk • 'the safety .and gobil . Government of 'our e o l u nieto, fOr ;lay' such objecr , as tbat•.proposed by the mo tion of the Right lion. Gentleman. Mr. Wv &Ng did not rise so much to :argue the , 'question, as to give testimony upon it ;• since be 'could speak front experience, from the office which Jie at one periodd - -held in the Bottle Department.' Many of those officers and branches of the public service, which had occasioned the greater part of the 'abettor in the Home Department, were now ' 'removed. lie alltided more particularly to the Alo7it Wise, the, Militia, and Volunteers. It'was' iii c , ' , ,s;tr . y:to look what the duties of Secretary wet* antl here",. if the question-were put t !„, , i 1 4 4 . a way,- it might , be some de-- I.;rec .$1 truth, that it , could' not he expected that n :-;,e.!'ret .- ary of State, dining an arduous campaign ,ion which the fate of Europe-and the -whole. 'voerld Might , depend, ,coultt divert Iris- attention tHini So-great tilt tol.rjeet, to inquireint,O. the me t it- , of some 'Squabble between the Governor end A ~, i enthly Orsoine•Colony. • As to. the •argnment. '4 . winded on vein Increase of:our Colonies,. he treated' Wag' absurd ; for could it be said: that our . tolOnies. riow-werelnore extensive than when we 'West Indies - .and the 114101C01 : NOTth Aare rica ?-.--As - to the Tiroposill t he'birsi -ns•s of the 'Office ',question With that of the . ' ll'Oaret - of Contront, he tltought.it extremely rea-. rentable. But in .truSWer'to 1.5134' proposal, it _had I,,i , sonth been - urged, tbat.tbe Board of ContrOul wet inere. Iy-„o concern itself with the affairs of India . the East Judia .Company : tntest have one Anie'lloird excltisively for -its, busineSs. - In onsWer - to What- was said of 'the Presiitent of the ISOirirof Contront -11 , ing his time so, much oc cupied in• , attending to the afrairs.of Ittclia, ,thatit - 6atil not be expected he could, with advantage, pttend to any thing else, be would refer to the Cost: of the late Lord Melville, who, at one and the tame tine held and exeeuted the ditties Tit the ciii? . ..es of President of the Iloartrof Contt old, tine of the-Secretaries of State, anti Treasnrq of , the Na'vy• ,- On the what! 'he•tliontgla ;J10' 6 ' 9.3 ' 10 " 1""P""rI by * Ms , ltiOt lion, rrietT it would ' be tighlv.advatirageons in every .poigt,of•-view, 'and iii the present situation of the country, MIS' one wliklt the 1-louse of Coimnons Was bound 'to adopt. Mr. Ti Ahnts:(4 . -ros: WMI Vcry much surprised e-t, the statetrtents of the 114(n.' Member who liad spoken last: What had been said by his lion. 4riend (Mr.. Goidiirn) was, that the business of 41te Colollit'S was ofTite ve*rs n o tch litereaSed. In answer 10 this, the lion. Getttlem3n referred to [tie periisit when our'eolotiies included the whole States of. Anierica ; but .t he lion. (4entleman for gOt th'itt %Oleo this was riw case, there had been a third ...I)..eretary of State, ?ailed the " :,.le.erelitry' ,- ..., (Or Anteriett. — The I bin Gentleman MIS lIISO . gytitentistaken ti's to Cie tp fl utity of biotiness 140 W transacted in the Alien ()Mee nml Ilonie I)elut ;neut. In'the latter Office, since the lion. Geo licomo had lieo , in it, the hosiness hatl increased by one-third. Of this be'conld speak positively, (rant his Official sitilation. The enrreslmmience in the I lollle DepartMett: Wat 1110 re CXtehSiVt• than IllatlV lion. Gentlemen could conceive—therewns correspondence with the Admiralty and tither Public ileloarttllelttt—Witli all the Magistrates of , the kingdom, besides the superintenditnee of 'the• . Police tkf the Metrnpdlis, ll'ilen the !tight lion. Gentleman proposed to link: , the Ivsitivss or the Colonial-Department with that of flie 1-lome De partinent, or of thelloard of Contfolt, hi' A VAVV(t 11imseiC either totally igporant or fOrgrtftli •iif ' the great increase of bnsiness in everyone of these Dep3itments. it would be quite, impOsSihic that the business could be exectited if any of them were united. :The fatigue already s•U(l'ered hit fhose who were connected with 'eaelt of these ()thee's, was as great as could he ''btift - it.i' by 43-try man. Ile disclaimed all interested motives:io telva lit. had said on 11 - 2 e subject. Mr, MAitry At thought there sitould be a Unity of sy,oe n , and a unity of act ion in the 'Man Rgtutent of our Colonies, -which could wily be obtained by . havingaie business reirting to (hem /611'1qt:tea . iii 11.6eptr4ttc department. Such seas nor 1rit.5,..11( prf.,, litiral ;Itiiatioo with respect to our Colonies, that its far {rim) any reduction in the expence•of itui-'" - naging the business relating to them, in. it -few' years a great increase of.expence sett; to' be t- ' Tvrted. 4Lt present in our :Colonies there Wits:a )'real Variety of laws : FrtiOrlf..l:lll , l 111 Si• I;111! i Sp;pliiiii laths iii T , iiiirllil ; P , tteli lotus ill th , t Cape of ;;00 , ! 1 io;)e, in Lsscliulbo, inn' nthrt: eetllv.' nicnts ; G lusts, reci a o, he supposed , in the . lonian Hands ; and the laws of the King oreatidv in Ceylon, This circumstance 'retptirttl n - great varit'ty of knowledge in Cabinet Ctint.ciilo.rs and cvc-a in Privy Conneiklors, whose business it tvas to rxitmine 'and decide upon. the appe'als' from these 'Colonies. 'The sitnation of rite Colonies Ngni'ring 'he 51ippPrt of lnrgt' Military sttiltlislintenti, veottlil inlet e:)se the hnsine , ,s in riliSpeperwp:o(. tinder these. cireum-tauccs, be 'thought it 'absohitele ii.:tpo-iible ;Ilea the crooltlV f`.0 . 11(1 ' tliqpt'llW wit b - dire business. Of the (. I .oloni'd Department being' Irinsacttol.as, it now was. 1;o' Inc his im'y 0' part` 411., l'.' A'S' lot. returning .to the old s‘stent of the eonn:t v.; 'and i' the Right lion. Gentlethan, in stead of los ,present Infttioit, was to substitute'. 'One ior an . Af t :(IVC.SR' 10 . t the COVVII ft', ' adopt t i.e " tints" ii,e,sii.e3 for' the administration Of the ;tint) s of t.(! Coloniei 'w.litelt hal been directed in . ; thc Prockinal hot of the great Lord .Chathum in 1773 - , and would thus canse ti,e while Of the citiOnies • to have but one set of laws, then he would corili,il!?•support such it motion, and he' would agree that the Imiiness of the DePtlrt , ,nent Would no longer lie so extensive. Its to intilre 4;4 'being maintained in a s•tiar,o . shape: But the rtiiol'i . of I, nowleege now rtaptired, as to the dif frr,,,, 1,, , ,‘ ,;. and lato„,tOog) s., made mull an air:lnge- ' meta inconsistent with (he interests of the court:- try. ll' tire present syst ell) was to .be cOntinned, it was impossible' to dispense wifh a'separate Do.' pat tmentior the administration nit . the Colonie3';: none bot a`Cabinet Minister Shoqlll be WC the'head of au: Peparrntent, it 04 holding this opiiiloil, he COIIIII not vore:for - the motion. • . • Sir .1o.:1K NejPORT 'thought the speecir 7 of the "non 'Gentleman Who had just sat down wos'a - very extraordinary tine. The n hole ewe- elitite to dam ` point—et:ll(lomA hail 'been recommended train the Throne ; it , hail now - been slnywil to the Ilonse how, at the lowest valenl4t ion, •12 MOW. a•year svould he saved to the public ; nothiog had been said to prove that it was necessary to have ri t e ntAine” of this devir went conduct etraceording `to the pres.ttt brat. , I le therdnre see'aty ,groundi for oppming the present motion. 11.vrttuksT emnineutted the mode 'in. wltiCh the Hight LIOO: Gentle' n had 'brought for Ward his motion, by avoiding every thing Bice p erson a;itv, and howd that he might be allowed in a very few tvords to deliver his opinion:without 'being arensed of being actuated by •any'-priiiate or perstut:d It WAS not it faie nay of • arguing on ties itow.,tion, to s:ty, that' since Otliee in queition was e.dletithat tor the Worntld COlonies, that the country triiiii n W at pi•iste; ergo, one 11Aif of 'the•business (it this.department 'was lOW removed. It mnst be, argued ilium the 1,4et5. quet>tion was whether the busitess this department eould be transferrett-t,O the?llome- D e o ntmer it. When the flottse coosidercd the great secession thar had - been monde to our foreign posseSKions, it otottld be found that this - was.ito• oslihip. It evils a.ittir argument 'for the, Right Iron. Gentleman when tie soid,ehat'though cot , ninny was promise:lllk 111101)00 iVaS - not 'Agreed t o ,. but then, the house was , to judge whether it•cntild'he agreed to consistently with 'the inte rests 'of thceoinitry. The' facts' which bad been stated•veere sulticiont to prove that it would not ~.be consistent with tin' interests of the country— , that the colonies could not be properly governed if the, 'proposed alteration w a s m a de: Th e . b us i, Hess of the thfee several depaitmeuts rrqs already as extensive as they could - manage. Ile dill' not therefore see on what t'ofid ground 'the House Was called 'vim to a!,z,rve to the motion. SM,ITtI Cambridge) did riots wish to give -a silent vOte;as he had'sotne oppoitunitiesof information upon the subject. The Office which n it was ow proposed ti' abolish had been formerly - abolished by 'Air. -Bill in 1782 Lott -its • 1704 it Lad hem. 4 etivea. tfnw Abe busitiess or the: HOrne Department could he mot`enoW th'air when-there had been militia entlAiblunteers, was 'obis lintlerstanding,tptite incomprehensible. Then it "was stated Aar-there was a great accumulation of business in the Colonial Department, hut he Was Sllle if. a.Select Cotant s iltye waVappOnted to iorprite into the !tiltieet . they. would find teere. wris Ettr - slid). a quantity of business tO transact es would prevent the proposed arrangement from be lltg'earried into execution. Ile then read an ex tract trout the IGth Finattee Report, to slrew . that the .arratigement.proposed by theAnOtino Was one to which, t ale House was borimi, to agree. The dittrof. the House wns to reduce, the ckpense of , wet IS Ike other depart nittots. it could be done consistently with sat'ety to the reablie service,• fle tvoithl tlitrvf.n'c vote. for tlse motion.% . •- • - I:.\;;;AES yielded toalo mail in his, desire to aecerie to every uteaiure, the object of. which Xect.S ;economy; hut ,on titre cousirieration of the soh jeet;-.,lie did not think that this motion could be agreNd, In eottsisteutty with the (Inc maurie,ement - of public ,business . . 001'0a:2111y agreed with that hart of the I fith Vint-ince lievo.rt which bad been read,by his lion. Frieint ;, but it was itnpos ,iide.to deity that we .had come out of the wai' with an immense addition to our colonial posses sions. As to the proposal for transferring the bu siness of this. Depettnient to. the Board of Con trol'', he thought it wool't be highly inexpedient., It did not even seem to trim tlint there would he any saving in.srieb a. transference, because if the business of the President of the, Board of Coutroul W , ts increased, it would also be oecessary creme his salary. his views of retrenchment, lit never ieeluded the abolition of useful offices.. — . There were very many offices which were the spc.st e*petisiro to the public, the holdets,of which had Ito duties to perform, CtOd these might he totally. diqwlised with, In Ireland, particularly, there were ninny offices of this , kind, Mr. Po N soNey l eaq- very, sure, that the H . : on. Alt-mina on the. present occasion 'decided with great doubt end ,rlif,fleolty. At the same, time it 'Was very unfortunate, that the ll , rnottrable Aleut .hee barfly ever, agreed to t,py.tpotion ior econo- Any e .res,l4 , s it originated with himself —lie peg, ged the llonse to consider,. that the, situation of ilie-t)o,ititre was , one 91 1111 feet eXttrllat safety, And re.r width was likely tocontintre. ' o.as •niar. t o a te• a lt borne ? ,1( our state abroad was one .of perfect.,seertrity,..out s,:ate lynne wa`i. one o f " the : ntotost. which nn ::.n felt the idessings,pf peacti.-,4lie quest brit.then was, wk.. ther titia -state did not require verintruty,f Now, as to hemuestion, with; great ileferente to that ticntienntii (Mr. Gotrilmtn), : he. Maintain ed ilist see hail at present. fewer .colotibil posses sions Own when 'we had' the whole of the Moe ., Srates.. -- Ytte:•clown :to...the year 1765, no Officer 6(1 2 -been iippginted transact the n ti .. sinew of the C010.1,1c5.-Jhe ihmmirtilite Gen tleman ittelkarb of the.. President of the Board of Contront; as the Officer of i the East India Corn- . trany, undipaid..b.y..khe lierst Comprilly.• Ile %%is.t,b,e officer pf. the Last bribe Company, who wareoppointedfliecially by P.irlianient to coot root the alfalfa of that „COmpany, to Watch overall their transactions, and whom that Company !‘rere, .hy Porliltnent..:coppelled to n')y- lint it was said that it va4 riot fit the.Pre ,, idoit of the pij aff l o f Controel should manege, the affairs of out -Colo, 911 What 441o9,11(13 this could be said °lan officer, who was entrusted with the whole lifEtirs oftlie,Cont ;trent of Ilindostan, that it was not fit he should he eon usted with the tnanage ment of C. }'lop awl the other Colonies ? In for- Met. times thelm.iness of the Stale was discharged withqnt na additional Secretary: A' saving of Ilf,oool. a _year cooldat,no, period be an indiffer ent matter, and still less so in the present eircont 7 stences, and to prove that it cotild . not he made, would reqi.ire,bettes reasons thaoany.witich had yet been adduced.. , . • Lora : Cast7tettekon agreed that ,the saving of sncha sum C 1114141 . at 110tilt/C. be indifferent, were it out at tended, with h ? conytniencies e hich Avotild prevve .itikteions.fo the pithlieService• Ile tlolAdCr7 4 ,4 w hy the Right Hop, Oentietnen had fixed upon 4/te Prtsikatt of the Board flf Controtil to assume :the SllllclitVentit'liev of the rest of ourcolonies,". -Hp was only the ,Prusiderst of , a lloaFil by whieji Itie,besiticss : was transtreteri,. and coold not there lore be charged with the saute tesnOnsib,litY as;p ~t ieeeetstry Sta,te. - , For nearly toetity , y ears , from .1208 10 -. 1782, .the . . w' 3,lfr. Burke's, Bill .wits..-passed, tileirwer offiee litttl sXisterl. Nyitcp •Anterica tobetong tt . lll...t..c•ountry acid .hadA t een t ne 4111 ; ,itostile: State, th a t Gentleman hail is attprevied.it, aothtranstetred t he 81,111VVIIItelideng,c of the West Indies ,to .the other departments of 'Government : -I,;rit were. not the dettes of Junes-- in ten de tt ee ' no,w far greater 'than in 1812 'r -- Any .one ,looked. •at the colonial (vies. lion: , 'see that- it had risen to a degree of 'very high • imptatance, It would not be wise to erect Parliaments ,in all the new colonies, rod:therefore : the dirties of superintendence. were considerably engenented.. If the tipsiness was nneKelytineof-sig.riatore it might. he' easily exe ,eetedt' but-when.the .office required a man with ,ft mind capable of conceiving tiny ntertattre.which .heneeessary I.x•the•wellareof the colonies, .it woldri not be , punctientkic to find._ any individual able-to eitperintend , at once oil the hotne,nnd co lonialinterestl .the country. It Would.he a fals e .ceonotny,that woulditeep in any,man tin extent atlrniuistration which leis mind ;atilt! not em .brace with a view- It would be equally poor economy tto s-oppress and recreate 'offices. • I.f. the business were confined in time Of , perree to two offices, it _could not be performed adequately end-in time pf,war, the rev l v ,d, o f the office would. he tteeessaryond would occasion fresh expenee, otre,of. the. Secretaries .shuold be taken iii, it would impossible for . the other alone to keep ell. he business of .the State in *no ' L"oking la the PxPeneeof.superanuitation ttilit trod - of o r i e l ov re v ival, .a b tr l d s, ; t l l ‘.% :st t i ) e l f o d teolt Inca surele°:ellic:isststYiske:lylwatohintedottfiitrcoct. consent to the abolition Mr. Rose catttioned the : House, against suffer ing their , opinions ',to be governed by, strong and cb It had i y : 0 1 t g t ho h .ei t a : s b e e a d c.,,er that a c t. ; a r i i e .ym t fo o or n r r ne o ) ac t g on hold Assertions.. of. the Colonies been stated that the busi th . efetrte:bhe'ultdrasittSbale'tteldle • lotnal nepartment, thart-Whdrt the States of Ante; rica belonged to this country. As •to thin that the office of Treasurer of the Navy 1,011,, a sinecure, the Right tt6n. Gentleman oppoSitd; might have found It to, for be bad left.no trace : of his , having been Treasurer of.the Navy except: the signature of his name four times.a.year, whet; he received his salary.---(Hear, bear, and laugh, ter.)---If that office was filled' as it'had been by' that Right Hort. Member, certainly the .duties three . or four other office., might be, p e rformed al, the tame time, and by the same person. That, office however was, in 'his (Mr.' Rose's), hands very different one ; it was extremely labotimisl shit even occupied many hours of his time wlielf he Arai in the country. If the Right Hon. (en. tleman donbtedthis statemeut,.lo. him imptireof the Paymaster of the Na'y. Lon"' For.a.sioxe was ,01.1-fashioned enough to think that some respect was duel() an Act of Por.: liament. The Act foi. abolishing the oBlct4 Colonial Secretary had passed in 1782. In 1794 1 the Office had been revived, it being contended that it was not the office mentioned in the Act, but a new one for the .war department instead at., the colonies. The two had afterwards been joinetlf., and now that the business of the war had Dean- taken away, the duties of the office must be lief eoPsitteTably reduced. He then real some clauses of Mr. Ilurke's ACt.which abolished the offic e Sectetary for the Colonial Pepartment, a n d pro videda hat itt case any other office of a similar na titre should be revived, it should not he given to a Member of that House. He contended, therefore, that Ministers must repeal that Act, betore they bestow the office in the thallOtr they had done. ' Mr. TitstateT, in his reply, began - by alluding fa the great wrath which the Right Hon; Treasurer of the Nati' bad displayed at the assertion, that his office wasa sinecure. Ile repeated that assertion' VrhiCh he made, partly front his own experience, and 'partly f'rorn the information of others. F ) , itselt it was a sinecure, but as the if reasurer i t e e %„ \ a t s i L‘tr paid. as w o e t o h n c s r hi principle' ocs s f s, t: r a o d e : away. %Viten he occupied that sittiation he lant tried to do a4l.in his power. It was said, that he' bad lett no minutes behind except his si..:na.tu re, tour times on receiving his salary. wee t r ot correct, I , :r he bad unfortunately received! it 0111 tftee iliac's, and he. might be excused ft,r !'", l° " s (or he riad nothing else. .Vitt the Righdilon• Gentlemao was burthened with it'tcas,rather too much, that in the face Houle 8,-;(1 the country he should almost boot, or thhich he held.' Ise e tt i o n i i , nb b e e r si o d f e t s b , e rr .s e l a n t e u c t u e r i e . s f w Clefk ° the other House ? Let him state the eniolutneols of that sittiation., , Let him state those which 1 children received. Let him give an o 0 ec°." rut the profits of his place in the Common Pitim s ' of his plaCe in thelierind (Mee. fie sent td6 ; he (Mr. T.) . done no -good wheti ll '' t 1 .1-- Treasurer of the Navy, but let himasksthe Mr.llouaLoN appealed to the House, the Right Hon. Gentleman 'diction introduce "17 the (icta4te, matter irrelevant to the qaestson. general cry of " Go on !" arose, and the Speak er ' in compliance -%vittr the wish of the House, OP pointed the Right lion. 'Gentleman to go.oo , "Mr. TIERNEY said, that he only introduced th i s limner in reply to what the Right Hon. Treat a tte of the Navy himself iutroduced. , if the Member had called him_ (Mr. Rose) to o rder a r • the time, he would then hav e been right. li e (Mr. T.) had been asked what good he load doo in his capacity of Treasurer of the Navy, Let the Right Hon. Gentleman inquire of the Clerks of that Office, whether the business had at any tnne • -been better done' did not say ibis. in a booVf° l ntanner,,for the business had been chieflicarri edon by ci Gentleman Who was his paymaster, awl there" fore he called the office a sinecure. 1111:11: aG ent leman a h t t a e t n i i b p ( t i e ll ( s l t - e t od of magnify his sittecl+re into something, bin he understood that rhose EL" galations, though no doubt well intended„.ebil7 evinced a restlessness of disposition from wi lt oat .goml was derived. He (Mr. T.) _was not IP.-- when in that office; he had made no disiataf minutes. but he had introduced some regulatin o t ' !rout which he understood great benefit "co lt "' 'lle then once mere explained the 'nature of his luotion, which had been made in a 'very 11,1 -House, lie combated theohjections raised , 29-- , conceived, unjustly against it. He conteadet! Il at i t u thettni eith eratce -of ssarybo t r i ti 'i e r :t i B`ofic2i)t,o7ol7,f Sta te ts -ye ing it at: tiie lowest, of 12,11t101.10n the-people. (bc ITite awe of t! ..House woold either • Oddle e ' 4Public with it, or remove., it allogether, at-41% Naible .Lord opposite,'(C a stlereagh) would tht c night by brought to the tesr, , as as tiie fleets • OM Of COM sincerity of OU3 i on the the ir . re gar d ``' economy:' After a few „words, from Mr. HousLoN, in 51 " 'fence of Mr. Rose, the. House divided For the Motion . .. . ... /104,5 t it MajorOy for Ministers ...... The Army Estimates . were postponed to'Fr,luj.' Adjourned. • - rmurns. • of On the 291.11 ttlt. at his seat at Beivair Park, Coal. $ ll Duen, Itehitni, the Lady ot .ttohert 11:4;.eson, ' • and heir. a lisbUrly O Monday 13.5 t, at the Itectnrv,•Chlsnlrk, near the Hon, Harris, o( a 3,..)n. e ie%terstay,in Nottinghaut-piner, the Lode 0( :A1,4,10Ff rat Sir Grorge AusOir, 1,1), o r q n 11 .D. 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