The Sun. — London, England, 1819-12-06 00:00:00

FOR THE SUN. POLITICAL CONCILIATION. MR. EDITOR—There is no set of men rd.() lave more advice offered to them thsn le sty's present Ministers ; and I believe there are none vrbn take less of it,--but why ? Simply Sir, because though much is offered none is giren. Their afteiiers always tell them—" This is trrong,"— hut if asked " what will he right %"—those no- Chalcascs—now tell your Devil not to phy the Devil with that word by printittg it Cilrons•es, howerer appropriate the mistake might be—those Cita/eases, I say, are instantly ail , or, as if a certain place were the Cave of Taornogit's, instead of the Temple of Dst.Puos. `lii but Cother day, that one of those oracles propnsed Conciliation, as the only means of saving the Countrs.. He was asked to explain, " No," replied the Conjuror, " 1 am' not houni to tell you what it is; but I will tell you what it is not !" Now, Sir, amongst all the ancient and modern modes 'cif conveying information, from the Ques tions of the patient SOCRATES down to the Com tnandspf triend LANCASTER, there is not one that call be said to resemble this. It is not only origi nal, hut , like their %vire-drawn speeehifieations, in conrlrisire—Excuse the pnn, if you luinnen ro 411). serve it—j.ist as if I were to he asked, " whAt ig tt Horse ?" 1 - IARRY I;cirse Bop, for instance, trho no longer bears his waster, nor his waster him—Oleic is knottier pun, catch it it you can—qnd shook{ answtr, through the gra dntiol of Qnadrnpedes, Tripedvs, Birries, and " he is not an ast, lik e hi s master ; nor a three leggcd stool like an Isle ot Man Penny; nor a tvotn4ll, like I\l,s not ith- Etanding any privve analogy which you wags r, F 4y suppose to exist thereby ; nor a one legged tlincer like Vestris."—Now, Sir, all this nonsense ; might repeat, end a great deal more; and yet both you and I, like the FapiPiit Civoaclß alluded to, rni 2 ht j.tst know as little about u hor,e, as a horse knows about us. In fact, the answer . aboni CotzciLation rPminds me of an n1:1 JOE Mtr.Lrk 4tOry Abollt Ermtenteni. An old fellow, who in his youth bad been n short time in the army, and who, though he had really never seen service, Was always fond of talking as if he had, happened one day, amongst other terns of forification, to use the kv o rd Epoulem e nt. He was asked what it meant ; his answer was ready, and equally conclusive wiih that alluded to : " Sir, wl,ien I was in Flanders, the Duke wanted to take a tour, and the engineers stated that it could not he taken in less than six weeks, when I instantly stepped Hp, and said, ' Please your Grace, it may be taken in a fornight by an epaule went. his Grace tha►►ked me ; the epaulement was made, and the town taken. Good night, Sir !"—But to the point of Conciliation. One species of it cert2tOy has been proposed ; namely, that HUNT, HARRISON, &Z. should have been allowed to go on quietly, without any inter ference OD the part of Ministers. Well, Sir, this is very plain and simple advice, and I dare say much approved of by HUNT and his gang ; but there is a learned proverb which says, '' Expe riencia docet," and I recollect a •case in point, where at buxom country Isis prosecuted a young fellow at the Old Bailey, for cutting off het poc kets in St. Paul's Church-yard, or rather in one sf the passages leading from it. ilcr conduct seems to have been pretty much like that vecnm mended to Government ; for site said in evidence, " that he began to pull her about, and got her nil against the wall ;" attdii u " that she rt , ad.. n o resistance, as she wished to see how . for Ypipti dence would carry hint l" How far his impudence went, I don't know ; hot I hope THEIR IMPLY.. D E NCES will never be tittle to get a hand into the pocket-hole of the Blitish Constitution, nor touch its tinder garments ;—if they do, then in (lced it will be all Dickey ! . Bat now, Sir, for MY PLAN, which most please oil parties. Let Parliament instantly repeal all Taxes, Customs, and Excises, prohibitory or ope rative; but at the same time let rtlinisters settle pensions on all Custom and Excise Officers, &c. who, with large families, must otherwise be thrown into starvation ; Parliament also granting ample remunerations to the Farmers, Merchants, Distillers, Silk Weavers, &c. &c. who must other wise sillier from a free importation of corn, Dutch gin, French silks and' laces, cum inultis aliis. Let Parliament instantly pay off the National D , !ht ; or if that shall be found inconvenient, let them adopt the plan of the great Hampshire Transatlantic Reformer, and ask the National Creditors if they are such jack-asses as to suppose that the nation will continue to pay them interest for money long since spent. Should they grum ble, let Ministers buy up all the unsold numbers t,l COBBIsTT'S Parliamentary Register, and divide them as far as they will go, I am aware that some slight inconvenience may accompany this, by the stoppage of about forty millions from annual rir culation, if it he tine, as Cu.kt.tdEP.S observes, " that circulation creates a momentous strvngth when it exists in hill ; yet leaves, when it disappears, a great debility." But that is a trifle; besides, as all the Custom-Houses, Govern• meet Offices, &c. will be empty, they will make itt Poor-houses, leaving Somerset house, ti evvr, as a State Palace for the Radicals. Let Ministers retrench, dishlnding all the troops, pay:lig ()Wall the snip;, breaking up into fire-wood as ni iny as possible, to save expenses, or sellmg Ito in to the French and the Yankies, if they will come down I:andsomely. It will be proper, bow ever , that Ministeis should settle pensions on all the As for our Colonies, let them go where the Whigs and Radicals will be sure to find ilelll. Let Ministers do away all pensions and sinecures, except those held by the Whigs anti their Friends ; for ste ely the Radicals, " making allowance for the weakness of human nature," cannot complain of that ; especially if Huta. is made Master of the Horse; HARRISON appointed Rider to the Archbishop of Canterbury ; and Cua- BLTT, Director at the Bank, or ASSAY Master of ;he Nlint. Let a certain Gt.mileman, as Courts will then be useless things, take a second floor in '6ltog lane. There are fnAlly WllO %%ill be glad to occupy au empty Lowe in ('all-mall. Above all things, let Ministers give up 0)&4 present trade. Why Sir, TOM I'AINH Stay maker, and surely Ministers ought to think it a disgrace to be of the same profession. For my Matt, 1 ant well cotivioced, that the WHIG; are anxious for their declining hu•iness. Whether THE:( tvili take it up or not, removed from over tile way, is at l.nsst doubtful ; perhaps CoBnETT, who now Ilinices short cloys, may take tip the trade of long ones, and ni.nage every thing about the traae himself, finless be gets into another liue of purl n , rship and drops his present business for the good of the Country. Yours, IGNOTITS. BUSINESS OF 'll-11: 1-101.ISE OF COMNIONS. oi:Dcas OF 1%11; UAY FOR MONDAY, GTH DEC. (THIS D.V.2 . .) pply—Cointuittee. c 2. It'ays and Nleans—Report. Ways and ,It•ltits—Coininittee. 4. Seditioqi Meetings Prevention Bill—Further considera tion , if 1(e port. NSTICE.—NI r. V. FITZGGRALU—Biii to amend Pauper Lu natic Art (Ireland). TUESDAY, DEC. 7, (To-momtow). I. Sir C. Buittint,L—Bill fur Remedy of Corrupt Practices In the Borough of Penryn. St. Sir 1103 Eur PEEL—BiII to amend Cotton Factory Regu lation Act of last Session. wr.DNEsnAY, DEC. 8. Mr. WHITTLE HARVLY—To move that the House resolve itself into a Committee upon the Itepurt of the Casoelford Election Committee. THU ItSDAY. DEC. 9. Mr. BF.NNET—Motioll 03 the State of the Manufacturing Districts, particularly iii Lancashire—Newspaper Stamp. Duties Bill—Sccoud Reading._ THEATRICAL REGISTER. Performed on Sat nrdn Night. MEArrtE DatirtY-LAST.—The Sie: s , e of lidgrade: The Seraskier, Mr. Brahani ; Lilla, Miss Byrne. Atter which, 11,-dery Antiques. TnEATSE cm.' ENT-GA nne.v.—Rob Roy Macgregor : Rol) Roy Ma , ;:rrtizor Canipnell, Mr Macready ; Diana Ver non, Miss M. Tree. after which, Husbands and Wives. *** For Pi..r.TINA%, sec the First. Page; and for TILE COLO NIES, cc the Foitttil Page. P.Zicl 0 STOCKS THIS PAY AT T 3 per Cent. Red. si pi,r Cent 4 per Cents. 81M, 83 ll:ink Long Ann. India. 80nd5.... Is. dis. Is. pr. , %VEIN t: o'c Locpc. Excti. Bills, 242 z 6. disc. Ditto ConiuserciAl ... 295. dic. tot Acc.. (Xi? 67 66 'L.II f.l. Ati n\l'ithiford, I Gnernmee and Jersey, flollioid, I (iotteolitgli, 1 Lisboa, I Friince, I 1-I,tm burgh, I Pleaders, I New York. Du E —None. HIGH WATF,R.KI' LONDON BRIDGE TO •NIOICItOW. dunning, 55 ntintil es after 5. I Evening, 20 a:mates after 6. E kJ u lOLE'J QUIS DICER t FA LtitYM AUDEAT LONDON, MONDAY, DECEMBER 6, MO. We received this morning the Pads Papers of 'Thursday and Friday last. The following are extracts " CHAMBER OF PEERS, Dtc.2. "'The Chamber assembled at 1100 n, the Presi dent communicated the Royal Ordonnance, creat ing eight new Peers, four of them took the wstits at the Royal Sitting, and the Cha►nber decided that the other four should be admitted to take the oaths on presenting themselves, without any previous verineai ion. " The Duke de Doudeativille, the Count Rapp, Alardikal the Marquess de Beurnouville, anti the Viscount Montmorency, were appointed See;e taries of the Chamber for the Session. '' A Letter from the Marshal, CommandJut iu-Chiet cf the National Guards ut Paris, at- ed the Chambers that he had placed a Guaid of Honour at the disposal of the President. " A Special Committee of Five was appointed to prepare a projet of address in answer to the Tiro 's Speech, consisting of the following Peers : The Marquess de Pasteret, the Count Bastard d•E.tang, the Marquess ,le Fontanel, the Mar quess Garnier, and the Duke de Levis. " The Chamber separated without any fixed adjournment, but to be convoked again on the projet of Address being ready. " CHANIBER OF DEPU'T'IES. " The Chamber assembled at one—The Baron Pasquier, ;Minister for Foreign Affairs, and the !idiot) Portal Minister of the Marine, took their plAces in the Ministers' benches. " A letter was read from Marshal thulium, Command3nt-in-Chief of the National Guard of Paris, offering a Guard of Honour, which was accepted. " The President—Messieurs, I am about to proceed to draw by lot the names of Members to form the nine Bureaux. " The President drew the first name, and pro nounced M. Revoire, some thought it was M. ltoy, and others M. Gregoire ; agitation prevailed for a moment, but the President having distinctly pronounced the name of M. Revoire, silence was restored. " The President continued the drawing, and pronounced the name of the Count Gregoire. tireat agitation was manifested on the right.— Several voices—' Adjourn, adjourn!' Others on the same side—' He has not taken the oath.' The Count de Marcellns, from his place—' No Regicide in the Chamber!' The agitation spread throng!' every part of the Chamber. A greet nninher of voices on the left side—' Go on, go on !• " M. de Villele. lie must verify his powers. " The President—shall I erase the name from the list of the first Bureau, or is it to be in scribed ? Cries of yes, ycs, no, no ! all at once, from the left and the right.' " The Count de Marcellus—f no Regicide iu the Chamber.' A great number of voices on the lest, order, order, call M. de Marcelhts to order. " The President repeated his question. " A great number of Members—put it to the vote. " M. de Cobieres—put it to the vote, whether he shall he provisionally part of the first Bureau. " A great number of voices on the left—Go on, go on. " The President- Is the name to be suppressed or insetted. " 51111 C voices—' no suppression.' " Cries of vote fur the adjournment from the ight and the centre. " M. Mestadier—M. le President, consult the Chamber, put the adjournment to the vote. " The President—Those who are tor the ad journment. The agitation of the Chamber inter rupted the question, some Members rose, claimed to speak, and complained of not hearing it. M de Villele mounted the tribune, and a pro found silence prevailed. He observed, with refer ence to the individual who had been nam ed, that until the verification of his powers had taken place, he had no right there, and not having taken the oa , h, he could not be provision ally included in the Bureaux of the Chamber. " The President put the question of adjourn ment, the right and centre rose in favour of it, and the left, and part of the centre on the other side. •` The Chamber ordered the adjournment of the inscription of the name. " The adjournment also of the name of M. Beng not who was not present at the Royal sitting, was likewise ordered after some disensiion. " The Deputies to meet in their Bureaux to morrow.—Acljourned. " Dec. 3. " The King did not go out either yesterday or Wednesday. liis Majesty held on Wednesday a Council of Ministers.'' FIV It PER CENTS. Wednesday C7 f. 90 c. Tiluroday . DEFERRED sToCK. Wednesday. Thursday. Of the 22 , 1 March, 1817. 90 f. Bo c. 0 0f. 80 c. 22,1 Sept. 1817.... 83 f. 80 c..... 88 f. 80 c. 22d March,lBlB.... 8G f. 90 c.....8Uf. B'J c. 221 Sept. 1819 B4 f. 80 c..... 84 f. 80 c. 22d March, 11319 B2 f. 80 c..... 82 f. 80 c. tid Sept. 1819....80 f. 75 SO f. 80 c. New York rapers arrived this morning to the 12th Novemhcr. (From the Piper of the 7th November.) SILkNIsH MAIN. ST. T?OMAS'S, OCT. 12.—BOLIVAR is posi tively in Santa F 6. New Grenada has furnished hint with 6000 men, and about two millions of dollars. SAAIANO3, the Vice-Roy, sated himself wi , h but few attendants, anti by way of Menpas, reached Carthagenia. We hear, by way of Porto Cdvallo, that he has been defeated by Colon el AGANUNECLUKL, and has escaped to Mararabo ; is encamped 12 miles distant from Clrriragen is ' on an elevated spot, but it is confidently asserted that he has but 100 men. The Spanish Gener al LATONR is with 250 men, all th a t remains of t he five Regiments of Navarre, at C u cuta ; but G en. MORILLO stands at St. Carlos, about 100 mi les west of the Caraccas, with about 6000 men, il nd appears to have the intention to fortify a bill near Valencia, and wait reinforcements, which he has been promised front Spain. (Ftona the Nfercantile Advertiser of the sith.) Extract of a Letter from Santiago, Aug. 1 2 " Lord COCHRANE left here yesterday aftern° °6 for Valparaiso : he had been here about a fort' night, and wished to take about 600 troops with the squadron, hut the Government declined send' ing any, until they can send a sufficient ntanber to insure success in the attempt to revolutionis e Peru. The ships of war are expected soon to IA and Admiral BLAtico goes again with them, 8113 a considerable number of Congreve rockets. ‘ll6 have news from the Macedonian frigate to the latter part of May ; she was going to CaliforMs' Lord COCHRANB, in his way from the ocean 0 Lima, landed a few men at Supe, a few !ragt►e s from where they met Captain SMITH, of the bog Macedonian, of Boston, and took him and 60 t' r 80,000 dollars he had, on hoard the O'HiggilT is A paper, signed by the Pbillippine Company, ‘ 9ll found in his desk, stating the money to be Po i for his cargo. Captain SMITH, atter beii)g board a while, signed a document, renouncing s i claim to the money, and was allowed to Po vessel. " Lord CocitRANE bad information of more 11 1 °` ney, and went next to Guambucho Bay, where b i took from the French brig Gazella 62,000 &Ma ri ' ‘vhich had been put on board by a Cleik Of (114 Phillippine at Guarmez. The money taken °rl board Captain SbllTil and the French brig bi l° been distributed among the Officers and crew's' the Government taking half." The observations of The Times this day, on the measures deemed necessary by all wise and g °°d men for the security of the State, display a O r° moderate style of discussion than it has fis , stored for a long period ; and we shall be gi°° to see it settle into a habit, as we are averse " ° I all public hostility, except upon points of essen ii° importance. The great objection which VI I Times makes to the measures in question is, some of them are intended to be perman eili. But it seems to forget the power of the Lee ' lature, and that when the Nation shall 13 released from all danger of a Radical 1 1 ° D ; &lion, it can repeal any measures which i ll State of the Country may no longer vecl" ir o l Many Persons of sound judgment, O tt of being alarmed at the strength or permanen ce 0 0 the measures, seem to think that they are by .,0 11 means strong enough, and that the Coustito" of should be effectually protected by laws tbtt may hereafter be considered as parts of 1 (4 never to be abolished. We may ask who s wo afraid of the proposed restrictions but Reb e r who under pretence of a Reform in ParliaactePoi have no other view but the entire subversion' , our present Establishment in Church and Stg di As to the objection of the permanence of son' e the restrictions, against which 'The files h as . fered many arguments, as we have said 'N il b ofr o , tone of unusual moderation, we must ag ain o f set ve, that future generations trust legislate of themselves, and, upon evident experience bli the injurious effect of restraints upon P ap, freedom in any respect, they will not be t he pelted to regard any laws enacted Th is predecessors, as indissolubly coercive. svitV then, the objections of The Times a re 0 out a solid foundation. As to the whgl °ll/ g re BAcoN, LOCKE,. or a BOY LE, howev er yet they were all fallible mortals, and ec r" o si never could he presumptuous enough to soil fel that their unassisted powers could legisl4" 0 01 the present age, still less for all posterity; 0 , „ under the present circumstances of th e c-LIO 1 1 much more perilous than those of th e Peri(iusti which they lived, we may I of w i t h more P r° r r suppose that they would have approve( o' measures proposed, than have made °II I lle if temps to prevent their adoption. CO ' times there was no attempt to destroy t b l o le vroo lti i stitution, but to substitute a Fling , o to support the Religion of the Country , ' tog Bo( one who had endeavoured to destroy it. , o r i ve rs' • the enemies of the Country aim at Lin ► o he ‘ 4 ' version and Id plunder. As to Loclos , . In At Theorist in Politics and too deMOCri,'•'B ate, notions. He framed a system of for a part of our American C° We °illb l° was found wholly unfit for practic e. Ott veu that the praise which we have best° oee°" . 0 0 h' temperate style of The Times 0(1 049 tu kr. at , fi *EN the bee oft tlj i Ps, of i Pel beer tio n tir e I l 'el)( C4A grid nisr, 411 1 , den' in, o Tre, lIAr talil 'riv e fr o , itis Ti turd 44 4, tu rd %tit, acct• litk tut 1 11.,t *tit Verl VEr . YeSI r "ht j er I %ll e tit ii 1 i,", L' A t L e i ))„ t , the