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s elf,' /hell near ' 40 1 0; rno l l 6,44 ~IIiP - e its was !Vet . rid) less tke CO% ire' et i.l IbY• pis, ;~ k-. N~r r . O f* : the . nu- aitt a a ft" coo" ri, or fare r. c. B stel' 0 to ici' 1 fof 'Of love cer t lore, 111tH e 'long " Mt •tlV.G.'s iwerW in the county have ghatlr• disposal, Qpz.o.l(;trr was at \I stated t Mr. being determined so The second of those letters Quin, in cum my with Mr. i° ol d called on him (Mr. C. S. the next morn n Say that he , thought it better the only inedlge Mr. T. W. Grady should give, sho"I'l be toolesteopuoir4 hint (Mr. Q.) so l ong as h e stoo d f or leaving. Open the question of the fu ture disposal of his interest.. After Mr. twin's departure, he (Mr. C. S.) enclosed to him a mi. !nue of what had passed, which he (Mr. Q.) - _brought back, w i th very little alteration, although he declined signing it. in the course of the let ter, Mt. C. Smyth observed, that Mr. Quin hay ing,contradicted Mr. T. W. Grady as to the al leged promise, the latter had only one of three courses to take ; either cll Mr. Q. out, to Sta nd on hi s l egal rights, if to a he should be advised he had them, the thi r d to ma k e t h e b est terms h e "old by way of comp rom i se ; an d he (Mr. C. S.) l*ecoMmended the latter, although the proposed terns were h ar d . l u his subsequent examination, l e (Mr. C. S.) stated that he gave that advice in °l der to prevent the langel • of a hos tile meeting het Z4'reel) Mr. Quin and Mr. T. W. Grad and ith y ;: out bei n aware 0 111 i g at all that a compliance t would b e a b reach of t h e privileges of the "se.. Mr • C. - Srhyth then gave in a number of rc t t erm relati ng to I he M subject from r:Grady-, seu. 41r Grady, jun. and others. li. M r Goot:o was next examined.—He 811,been 13 years one of his` Majesty's Couir'sel t he.lrisl i bar. .11e. acCOmpanied . Mr. Quin in month of September, when he called on Mr. 1 (/ r h ' Smyth. i n doing that, his sole -object had c ell to prevent .a meeting between .Mr. T. NV. ,: t adY and Mr. Quin.. At that meeting Cllr. Quin to.hhoself the mi nute ma d e by M r . C . ; S myt h a conversation Which had passed between them the preceding day„. and denied its accuracy, f-f-mk than he (Mr. C... 5.) h a d made him nargain 1 ; e 4 ' f A , Ir T. W. Gradv' s. Political support;,suppu,, a thing t il ."r• Q.) ne ver d reamt o f, and that he would 1 1 1 4 e no stipulatiOus whatever on the subject. (Mr. Goold) had.. never read the minute or c card it read. He bad_never observed, when Mr. sail to was required by Mr. C. Smyth to sign the 14 -nu te, that be ought out to sign it,. being a ei bber of Parliament, it relating to a division of le ln - ofits of an office ministerial to justice. Had ta*:, ee n capabl e o f suc h an act , lie ought not l i .a - ltear his M a j esty ' s gown four-and-t wenty 1111 "'' li e cons id e r e d the m i nute a rejected art adopted do cument ; ad opted a d in that .part ^lnc ( lh ~ee . expr esse d that Mr.lv 'l'. W . Grady was to _ 0 1 e , 51 ,e 2 001. a y ear f rom M r . It.:bnuth ; and eat 4 i s s ." ll. - T. W. Grady should continue politi co COllRected ; wi t h M r. Quid), so long as be p a t : fi noed to receive that stun ; rejected in that 4, 1 1,.!,1 9 , 1 iich imported that Mr: Quin stipulated for der . • tV. Gl R dy' s political support as a . coosi fi , st i l ,"• On the 21st of September, at his (Mr. 11 1 ° ,'"''°) house, Mr. Quilt communicated to him hNhstanee of a preceding conversation hebad t'l l t• - ( 11 r. C. Smyth ; in which the latter, finding tl.r . ..7 ll4 peremptory on the legal pretensions of l'et ti '` W. Grady•to.the ,office, was himself 4114 4 4 y and explicit • as to an alleged promise ko o : by Mr. Quin ;. and that was one of tlr it . 414 1 , of t h e a i m nr, which he (Mr. Gook ) 14 1% ,t,ready described. Mr. Q.liu told him, that Na l l j' ll7 . Grady had said, if the office was taken he would blow his brains out. Th e „.41 2 001. did opt;origitiate with Mr. Quin. 11,1 the Y Suggestion ~of as tespectable a man 'in society, •Mr.-Consandiite, who was 4 ProVe it a t the bar of the House. Upon N.11,4,.,`nr, he w as . not t w i ce at M r . C. S m y t h' s %,r t - l e 42 d of S e pt em b er . Up on t h e h onour o f a tet! .etn atiiraud of Majesty's Counsel, he had itad°l it . 4 een the minute, read it, heard it read, or n'ent ,Coofents cotuminticated to him. The tl luat Quin• enclosed to him a Copy of t(4 4. '"e ning letter, which be had received', he lit .Tt to del the villain to the investigatioo.— N e Y -illy -roptuo acquaintance of Mr. C. aeconot of t h e c har ge published on the tl iz; -Pein tlary, in all tlie papers, under which he Ir aw e 'n tor five weeks languishing, of his having 14-Prepared, and testified a corrupt bargain, • t he report of the statement made in the L ao e 13 Y Sir It . Wil son . Upon his honour, he kl'ever expressed himself ready on all occasions vet eatimony to. the accuracy of the minute. FRIDAY, MARCH 12. t he h ' jai) MAti NsELL was exam i ne d . —H e was t he ci t i all of the chief banking establishment in lion e *,:l of Limerick, father•in-law to the Teti el a nd a relation to Mr. Quin. He s aw Arho.c Smyth in October; before he went to verst".‘lthen,he told him, that lie had had a con ies ° ' I,2nn with Mr. Q u i n i n Dublin, on t h e su b- 1co0,01; a year; and that lie had drawn up a (4 it, whi c h b e (Mr. C. Smyth) produced. nd• • a ye ition on whi c h t h e pesitioner was to e 2001. a year was, that Mr. Quin was to el eeti : the political interest of Mr. Grady at the . 1 1e b a i l e y (The minute was shewn to the witness.) ;Pof P ert that to be the paper, but he could ahPhaerittienlarly charge his memory with it.—Mr. tw o h . , 'the law agent of Mr. Quin,had shown him ,Ifr fin note from Mr. Quin, to the following iur . - .bm:(lBl.l_t,e slmjintrild"radv may vote as lie pleases, vote 'against me, that shalt not itatll4;aet.ent. cause for my removing him." He ..Onrcated this to the Petitioner, and advised 1,43 been shown him' 4. (0 accept the 2 00/. a year, which Le did.— that note from Mr. Quin to Mr. Gabbett the iMpression on his mind yearthe Petitioner 'vas to receive the 2001. '2IIPPOr?n the condition of his giving his political ihir raa -t , ° Mr• quit); The Petitioner was in em 4:it circumstances. The Petitioner's de ' fr- r.•Wal4l,oohie. understood, annually paid to e etnioner Jadif took it for granHteed believed tht ire was that sure Ai r. ' o r f . PliitiaeCdeitoinlicimonsierit,!ence of some kind expressions - I t V he . - th e peace was idr• Quin. The o ffi ce of Clerk of P r• Gitow..,3exectited by deputy, because Mr. 1 10( l . b eing a boy when be gqt it, was St Lis ii4_,u.t° fill it. Ile recollected a meeting baetween Mr. Darby O'Grady arid Mr. a l.Ply t h e 2 e on s "PPosed the Petitioner intended purse 4 e ,:teral t tmd, _u! a Year by throwing it into the ce l k ey a 3,:csitle was very liberal to his lather. betwee n them. He con 4tit, e • d th at the vlisproposal made by Mr. Quin to hii such, that hit could not in honour accept of i;, as there it'd, the condition of tequit ing political support annexed to it. lie under stood the intcltion, as , then expressed by Mr. Gabbett to be• that of Mr. Quin:to be varied from what he understood to have been the intention of Mr. Quin when in . Dublin. The difference was Dublin l►e understood him to require the political support of Mr. Grady, but by that letter he left him . Free to dispose of his votes as he pleased. The next witness called was Mr. DANIEL GABBETT.-He deposed, that he was a solicitorat Limerick, and occasionally employed-as law agent to Mr. W. Quin. It was after an interview 'with Mr. Maonsell that he went in the month of October to Mr: tV. Qain at Adare ; 'his-motive was, as a, mutual,friend, to promote a reconciliation between the parties. In that conversation he sta'ted Mr. Quin that lie understood the caase of differenee was occasioned by an implied condition ot political support being expected . from Mr. Grady—he der st ood so in his communie . ations.with Mr. Smyt and Mr. Grady the petitioner. - Mr. Quin's reply was, that as threats had been held otitio him by• Mr. Grady, he did not feel himself called!ppon . tp, afford any explanation. os he was determined not to he - intiMidated. 11 observed to Mr:Quiii; that it would be: honourable -in him' to ilisctain '§o- injurious a report. Mr. Qairt proceeded nolur,, t her, except giving him to .understand that the . principal cause of difference arose from :IWr.' Grady,'s endeavouring to enforce the. ployisi,on :intended for him, while - Mr. Quin 'to hold-The situation Of . Cnsi - o's- Tiottilorutn ;,ofilht countyy. adding,. that he was determined •to be.lo free as. Mr. Grady himself. Mr.,Qiiin neither . o 7 mitted'nor denied the fact requiied - pn-, .stippoit in the 'Conversation he - had wily He informed him, however, that some ex, pression bad escaped him in. : ,the course o f his communications with Mr. - C. .Sthyth, - intimating that . while lie And Mr: Grady' sailed in the ' same political•veSiel,:it was not. ,likely that any. mis uuderstanding could arise between them, Witness, did not .understand the figurative expression of sailing in ' the same political vessel as an- ac= knowledgmenr that !bete • was a condition: of political support annexed to the annuity; he thought it referred to the possibility of the petitioners father lampooning Mr. Quin, - stub of the petitiOner himself taking a part pecu liarly-hostile to his interest. Wittiels stated"that he had-afterwards a written communication with Mr. Quin upon thesubjecr,..the *visa er which_ was proilitced. In this answer Mr. Q accepted the proposition of Mr. Maunsell, anti (let-Fared. that hegatite the thing during pleasure, allowing Mr. Grady to vote as he pleased, and pledging himself, in Case Mr. Grady chose to pole against him, that he should not upon that account 'de wive him of the situation. Witness conceived that Mr. Q. in this - letter acquiesced in hia sii.g gestion of disclaiming the report that he had re quired a condition of political support, the idea of which condition he believed to have origi nated in misconception between the parties.—He did not think that- Mr. Quin would engage in such a traffic, or' that 'hi - attached such value to the political interest of Mr, Grady as could -Make it an object to him. When be received the note from Mr. Quio, he communicated to Me: Matiii sell that he had acquiesced in every thing sought for - on behalf of Mr. Grady, namely,lhat he had disclaimed any idea of imposing any &in dition.whatever of politicAl support. He did not' know that the terms had been refused by the pe titioner, until the very time he believed that he saw a petition had been preferred on the occasion, or some'Parliamentary debate - uptiti the subject. The witness then read a letter, dated' Limerick, the Ilth• of October, ISIS, addressed- 'by ilia to Mr, Quin, apprising him of the assent of Mr. Maunsell, Mr. Grady, and Mr. Alp, to the ur rangement. He knew Mr. Thomas Wall, the Deputy of the petitioner, to be- a man of inte grity,and had never heard of any complaint against him in discharging the duties of his office. It was very much the custom in England for the office of Clerk oft he Peace to . he performed by- Deputy ; he had not interfered in consequence of hearing that • a Parliamentary Inquiry was about to take place, and did not recollect having had any conversation with the Petitioner on the sub 4 ject. The Gentleman who held the office of Clerk of the Peace prior to the appointment of Mr. Grady, was, he believed, Mr. Meredith Maunsell ; and he rather inclined to think that lie bad acted .himself, and not by deputy. He was not aware that any communication had taken place between Mr. Quin and Mr.' Carew Salyut' on the subject before his interview ; the ground of the difference was certainty, political support. He had heard nothing of the minute of a conversation taken by Mr:Carew,Smyth until be came to at tend *Under the, summons of that Honourable House ; he believed him totally incapable of • fa bricating the substance of any such conversation, but believed that 'a misconception might -have arisen on the occasion. RICHARD SMITH, Esq. called in and examin ed.—The ,witness' stated, that Ire was now Clerk of the Peace for the County of Limerick, which appointment he received on 'the 22e1 of September last ; the deed of appointment contained a °stipu lation, in virtue of which he was only to hold the. office during the plea Sure of the Honourable W.: ; he believed it did not in that respect dif fer from other deeds - of appointment given to Clerks of the Peace ; it did not differ from those given to his - predecessors. It *vas suggested to him, that it would be humane and advisable to make the provision ot - 2001. .a-year out of the office for the late Cleric of the Peace. The suggeS-! lion was first made by Mr. N. Consannine, and; afterwards by Mr. Quin, 'who told him that he was under great embarrassment in consequence of the representation Mr. Grady made of his si ' !nation. lie believed it was from the Petitioner himself that he first understood there was a con dition of political support annexed to the grant of 2001. a year. Ile had stated this to Mr. Quin, who authorised him to inform Mr; Grady that be• wanted no such pledge from him ; and having so done, Mr. Grady professed himself perfectly satis fied. 'This conversation took place a few days before Mr. Carew Smyth came-to Limerick. hi the conversation he had with the Petitioner about delivering up the Records, h e understood from him that Ilhat he wanted was to have an annuity, settled on him for life. Ire was himscHappoint ed to the ()Ince without Solititation. There were 49 Freeholders registered upon his property. The Petitioner had 33 previcyrs to the last Election, and 40 were since registered by Mr. O'Grady; the late Candidate.. His own:Freeholders voted in the interest of ,Mr. Fitzgibbr>tt and Mr. Quin at the last Election, He did not recollect that : Hr. Q. had ever assigned- any reason for the re .moval of the Petitioner from the office. Mr. CAREW SMYTH called in and further exa mined t--The witness expressed himself quire con fident that Mr. Goold accompanied -Mr. Quin otr the morning of the 22,1 of September when he' waited Orion witness, He stated : smne particulars ;which impressed it more strongly on his inernory, , ,such as the awkwar,drress of the 'maid-servant, : who shut the dorm against them at first ; and, the , dress of Mr. Goold, who was wrapped up in a 'great-coat,..and wore a handkerchief - about his 'neck ; and some pleasantries that,passeil between them on the occasion. „ . . [Here some letters which passed between Thus. Grady ancl_Mr,, Quin were read to the House. The witness persevered in stating, that Mr. Goold bad expressed himself_ in the manner _he (the wit ness) had stated yesterday.] ••?: THOMAS GOOLD,.Esq. called in and further ex witnest stated,. : that lie had seen° ;My. Grady, jut-. that day, - andiwasjhreatened by' him for the evidence lie had piveif. Mr. T.: W. Gam:ofbeing 'Called in, and having : adinitted ',that he had told Mr; Goold, that if..h•e„ made use drhij' . (Me. Grady's) ntfttve'wantonly; he should be under ihe•necessitk_u_fkieldng him, was :committed to the,enstody of the t;ierjeant-at-ArmS., S.m.vTii i _Esq. was called, and fur.: ther exEmined as to.the stated - Mr; Gould to haye made at his loose company :with Mr. V. .on the infirning - of the 22d. The first . visit was about 11 7 0'clnck. He re affirmed the various particulars which he bad mentioned, and which impressed . on his mind the remembrance of 'the first visit., He stated that Mrs. Grady - (the wife of Mr, Grady, the elder, •was his father's sister), on leaving Ireland, had, requested him to adviie and take care of her son. He was a!so examined as to his motives, and as 'to his conversations with Chief Baron O'Grady, but nothing material was elicited. . THomAs,GooLD, Esq. was again called, and Mr. Carew Smyth's evidence having b'en recapitulated to hiM, with respect to the Ersertiotr that Mr. Gould accomp - anked.Mr. Quin to.his (C. Smyth's) house on the morning as well as'on the afternoon ot the 22d of September, he stated that he had passed a - sleepless night, taxing. his-memory to try if he conlitbring such a fact .to his recollection, anti be now solemnly declared his " sincere con viction and positive one," that he never entered Mr. Carew Sinytlrs . hOuse hut once-in his life.— He stated that.the conversation alleged to have taken place at, the first interview was, therefore; " positively incorrect, and not frue. HF re collected no conversation with, respect to his dress ; he never.wore a handkerchief about his neck ; tke 22d of. September was not a cold day. He mentioned, however, that he had driven with Mr. Quin in an open car, and that Mr. Q. wished to call at Mr. .C. Smyth's ; he believed the car stopped at . the door, but neither he (Mr., G.) nor Mr. gill) got out, acCording to his " po sitive recollection;" his (Mr. G.'s) own coach man drove the car.' No other material point was skated by him,. : except the fact which impressed the circumstauce of his meeting Mr. Qoin at his hall door. The faCt was this=" Mr. W. Quin." said he, " my relative and friend, thought it riOtt to bring my.pretensions to promotion under the eye ot my Lord Talbot, (the Lord Lieutenant) ; there was then a Seljeancy vacant, which he went to ask for me on that day " Mr. CAREW. Spitv7ll was called, and stated the names and residences of the two servants who lived with him .on the 22d of September, and Mr. G-oold also was called on, and stated the name of the coachman who drove him on that day.—[lt will be recollected by our Readers that these ser vants were immediately ordered to attend on the motion of Mr. Larnbton, with a view to ascer tain which of the two contradictory statements of Mr, Gould and Mr. C. Smyth were correct ] Id he deli- n the t Mr. was d be over• Lured look' I ac- ie re that e ver fredi vote n aive tnees , )ulO. inti - , pe ak (I 3 ject , 111 "1 MONDAY, MAUCH 15. THOMAS' GooLD, Esq. was again called.—He stated, that on Friday night last (after the last examination), Mr, XV. Quin had•called on him, and had repeated some of the minute circum stances mentioned in the House, and he (Mr. G.) was now satisfied he had been at Mr. C. Sinyth's in the morning as well as the afternoon ; because Mr. W. Quin had told. him so, not" from any memory of his own. He added an asseveration in these words-" . 1 do declare solemnly, that I had not the slightest intention, nor the slightest or the remotest intention, in the evidence I have given, of even giving a colour to a single transac tion. I was mistaken ; my memory has deceiv ed me." Mr. T. .W., GaAnY, •the petitioner, being exa mined, stated, hat , he bad been, he w a s told, Clerk of the 'Peace' tor the County of -Limerick 15 years. The duty had been performed by a de ploy. Mr. W. Quin had applied to him to re move this deputy from his situation, saying he Was not partial to his (Quin's) political interests,'' which the witness refused to do. When it was known that Mr..Quin was to have the reversion''s of the office of Custos Rotulormn, witness had spoken to him respecting hiS office of Clerk of the Peace, and coosi,iered that he had received a promise that he should not he displaced. Lord Muskerry died about a week before the last Elec. tion ; witness then : again applied to Mr. Quits,. who gave him an equivocal answer ; -a few days after the Electinn Mr. Quin hinted to the nitnebs,i that in consequence of a prior engagement, he feared he should be obliged to disturb him in his office. The proposition of 2001. a year arising out of the emoluments of the office came originally front Mr.W,Quiu ; the witness bad never said any thing' to this effect, that he Should be reduced to the des perate necessity of blowing out his brains. At first, witness was much irritated at what he consi dered to be' a breach of promise on the part of Mr. Quin, and refused to accept the proposal, which was at first uncoupled with any conditions. : Nothing was settled When Mr. Quin went to Eng land. After that time witness wrote to Mr. Carew : Smith, dolling. bias to calk on Mr. fdu . iii oh his return, to know his intentions as to the office.— . 'When Mr. Quin came to his house, near Limerick. after his return from England, witness had an inter view with him. At that interview 11Ir. Q said, that if witness accepted of 2001. out of his old place, so . long as he continued to receive it, he (Mr. Q,) -should consider witness ' bound to s til with hint :in the same political vessel in the county;". but that witness was perfectly at liberty, if he could. ,dispose of his interest on more advantageous terms to any of the other candidates, to do so. Wi:tiess ,rejected that offer, and left the room.—No one •was`then present. He shortly after was in a room `With Mr. Quin, -who introduced him to Mr. 'Roche (his land-agent). and said, I will tell you, ;Grady; before 'Mr:Roche, if you receive your ;2001. a-year, I will give it you free. Witness " your idea, Sir, of being free,. , and mine, 'do not coincide in the least ; you told me :ira;the other room was to sail with vou in the ,same political vessel, and now you tell me I `am free.. What dO you mean will you give we 2001: a-year'es long as you are Custos, and leave it to my discretion, to vote for whotti I please ?" Mr..Q; said, " Certainly tiot a ;" and Mr. Roche 'said,'"it was a vay;•- -- uniust, demand.- :Witness at :thatinterview wished..ro•. 'have 3001. a fear with - condition,. binll4.aveidd have t a eke!! .2001, a iyear,,(cee from the:eon i ditint a i of political:lsiippnrt. :QareasE,Smyth .soon ca.p4 ; to Limerick, and Vistied . ill,ll - .:Qajn.at Ad4rs pit ,Alip sth or Gth ofOctober i lte, was kostructe s l, ; ,l4,..qeTWitness to zieCept the ;AWL:, without cotAimp l os..., - . About t Wo or three ;days after. Mr. Stuyth,ieft ja the counity,; Mr: W. Quin; changed his intention, and wrote to Qablie`tt . a note (cimimuniceted , to witness by 111 x, Maim - 1501) to the effect, that he might vote es'he pleas •• ,ellotud,should not _beon that account deprived at 201..aIlkia year ; bet ; 'n,ti,the advice of his father, kilo, was determined to bling the 'Matter before ,lie: ; House of Continona, witness declined the :offer. Mr. R. Smith,, the present Clerk' ef the' ,P.eace for Limerick, _advised him to accept the offer, and said, if , witai'ess refused the 2001. year, he (Mr. S.) should not be the richer, as .C)isin would then give it to a Mr. Furnell, for his support. 7 ,AViteess was nine . , years old 'Whets appointed ,Clerk of the Peace. He wrote to ,Mr. Quin to say his removal would.' hlitert him eery welt lie. thought he !night lave used such- an expression as this—" that remain in doubt was more torturing titan the worst reality ;" he did not think he .expressed himself so strongly as that his very existence de pended on it [A letter was here shewn to the wit tress, who said it certainly was written by p i t h , and he was not a bit ashamed of theletttil: this letter is the following passage :—" Should it he your intention to deprive me of. my place, [ which don'l think you can reconcile With, your owe feelings, or the opinion of your friends, [ request.you will let me know the moment yon have made tip your miud on the subject, as have to arrange my affairs accordingly ; and as the. un- certainty in which I am at present is more tor turing. than the worst reality. Yon will excuse, 1 hope, this unnecessary no e ; but, as my very existence depends on my place, 1 trust you will forgive Any anxiety." Another letter to Mr. Quin from the witness, and identified by him, contained, the following passage I came from France, not because I thought my single vote could be of much_use, but because I knew my father's tenants would not vote with you en ke.ss I was on the spot, though solicited by close connections to stay away, they assuring rue that Weir first voice should-go with Fitzgibbon. As I promised to support you, my fat her, and myself were resolved to,act towards you as we always have done, and I came 600 miles for the purpose. before I knew it was in your power to injure use or serve me. Forgive me for this long history, hut my feelings are so wounded by this report (1 e. the report that Mr.Quin had appointed Mr.R.Smitla as Clerk of the Peace in. his room), and the taunting pity of my relations, and the ridiculous , point of view in which I am placed, to which you may add my ruin, if -I lose my place, that I must ,give myself some-vent." Witness received a let ter from Mr.Carew Smyth on the 22d September, saying he had seen Mr. Clain. Up to that pe riod he had never heard a word ebout political support being attached to the offer of 2001. a year. Mr. Quills himself never told him that he was to give him his political support ; but Mr. Wyndhatu Fitzgerald told him, that. if, he did accept of the 2001. a year when first it was offered, Mr. Quirt would expect he should vote for him in the coenty. When he heard from Mr. Carew Smyth that his political support should be the condition of re ceiving 2001. a year, he was a good deal astonished, because Mr. Quin did not mention it to hint him self, when first he mentioned tire 2001. a year.— On the 28th of September he bad an interview With Mr. Quin at Adare, when Mr. Quin said that they were to sail together in the same political vessel ; be made that a sine qua non—he did not express any surprise to Mr. Quin, because he kart received from Mr. Carew Smyth 3 or 4 different letters from Dublin, to acquaint him with that fact, anti therefore it was unnecessary for him to ex press astoeishmerit at a fact he was perfectly well acquainted with. In the presence of Mr. Roche, Mr. Quin referred to the offer unconditionally at • first, as free as air; but witness ,found his mean ing was the very same all through. Witness asked him if he would let him, yote as he liked ? And be said, certainly not ; therefore there could not be any thing mote conclusive than that. To the question—'' Did you say, will you let me vote as I please, or did you say, will you give me a positive assurance, that if I vote against you, you will not remove me front the office ?" Witness answered, " I cannot exactly say about that ; I cannot exactly say which, for they are both the same, in my humble opinion— there is no difference." Witness saw very little distinction, hided, between leaving it upon tt fair and common understanding that he would. probably act as he had formerly acted; namely, support Mr. Quin, and a positive assurance given by him, that if he should happen to vote against Mr. he would not deprive him of the 2001. a yea , . Only twenty-five of witness's tenants vottd for Air. Quin at the election, and the rea,on was 'that only t wenty-five could vote. Mr. Quin told witness himself, at Belmont, that his father never polled less than 130 or 140 for L him. Mr. Carew Smyth Was of opinion at fuat, that