The Sun. — London, England, 1819-08-30 00:00:00

I? A DICAI, IfF:FORNIERS. MANCHESTER, TIitIRSDAY \lo►rr. Bamford, who was taken op at Mietlietem this morning, was brought before thc Magistrates to- thly, for the pittpose of undergoing an examina.. • Mr, Noltras stated to him, that the charge was of tt very serious nature, but that it would not now be gone into. There was evidence init hin), which implicated hits, along with others, in the guilt of hiA treason, R'D d he wnt)l 4 now be remanded, to he brought up with thcm on a . future day. The prisoner requested to know who oppviired against him as his accuser, and on what evidence he was to be deprived of his liberty. The Ma gistrate, Mr. Norris, said he would learn that in due time. The pi isoner then stated, that Nadia hail seized a number of papers at his house, consist in of !;!tick Dwarfs, Cobbett's, Sherwin's, Feud other publications, ond begged to tom+ , who held them, or how lie was to recover them. The Migistrate repliod, that the constable I.;hu seized them was accountable for them, and would pro. duce thcm on the proper occasion, adding that this papers might turn out to be material to the ends of jei.,tice. The prisoner was then taken front the bar. ti - in. Mr. Pearson, an attorney from London, made his appearance in the Court. and delivered a note to Mr. Oswald Millie, who informed Mi. Norris, the Magistrate, that this solicitor had aiiplied to see Mr. Hunt. Mr. Norris said, the Committee of the Magistrates hid ordered that no one should see him at , ptesent. Mr. Pearson was putting some other questions, /then Mr. Norris interrnpted him by saying, " You have had your answer." 111 r. Pearson asked, '' Has the Committee ordered you to give no answer 1" Mr. Norris made no reply; and Pearson took tip his while hat, anti left the Court, saying, " you must do as you choose." NEW aJzLEY, Arq,*. 27. rINAI, EXAMINATION OF HUNT. JOHNSON, MOOR IIOUSE, AND THE OTHER PRISONERS CONFINED ON A CHARGE OF HIGH 'TREASON; THE ABAN DONMENT OF TEIE CHARGE, AND' COMMIT MENT FOR TRIAL FOR A MISDEMEANOUR. This being understood for nearly a week to he the day on which the determination of Govern ment, regarding the charge against Hunt and his fellO , v prisoners, should be swim:need to them from 11;e Bench, and their foal examination be entered upon, a considerable crowd collected near the New bailey• as early as 10 o'clock; About 11, those who had any particular favour with the °int:era, or vvlio cane: to give evidence, were admitted into the Court. In a short time the seats round the table, usual ly occupied by. the attornies, the jury -box, the staircase leading to the gallery., and every - part of the halt. convenient for hearing or *seeing the' prisoners, 'were crammed to excess. Meanwhile the crowds collected without; and filled the whOle space between the bridge, the prison, the Govti-, nor'b house, and the river. A strong party of sol diers had previously been. admitted at the gate of the prison, and a guard appointed without. It being the custom to exclude the multitude who' usually occupy the body -of the Court behind; the bar, till the Magistr4ates have taken their seats on the Bench, there was a great 'pressure to wards the gate for admission as soon as•it should be opened. The civil power thinking they saw , some tendency to tumult iu the immense body that • surrounded the doors, requested, as we understood, that the Military might beat their post,readY assistance in case of danger. Accordingly, some of the officers •of the Ilusiars orthe 31 - st and 88rh, who had taken their places by us in the jary-boit, eager 'to hear the examination 'of persous'Who have of late commanded so much of their fitted.' tiOn,'were called out and ordered on more active duty. The shouts of the multitudes were some. : times heard in, Court, but from the verrefficient force ready to repress any tendency to riot, no impression of danger was felt. The i‘lagistrates, we believe, had assembled abok 1 1,, 'but they dial "not take,their seats on the bench tilt upwards -tit two hours afterwards, In the interval they were employed in taking depositions, or procuring the signature of the witnesses to dtpoaitiOns already taken. Mr. Pearson, the Solicitor for the priso ners, hid taken his station immediately before the dOck, with a law-book -under his arm, hut was not known or recognised by those around him till called out of Court at half-past 'l2, by Mr. Norris, the stipendiary Magistrate of Manchester. His white hat then excited a,laugh, being considered here as the badge of the lii.adicals. Sir C. Wolseley, we were told, was in town and in Court, but we could not see him. At a quarter past 1, the Ma gistrates entered the Court, and an agitation' of interest and curiosity took.place for the approach - - ing business. Only six occupied the bench. Their names were, Mr. Norris (Chaihnan), W. I-110ton, it: Wright, Marriott, 'l'. W. Tattoo, Esqrs., a and the Rev. C. W. Ethelstone. Th e Solicitor for the Croavn,_Mr. Bouchiet., took his place at the table immediately below the Chair- 'than.Mr. Pearson-, the pr isoners' soli c itor, was now li,kewise . accommodated with a . pliiee at the table near his clients. '.llre.Cliairman,as soon as the Magistrates were seated, ordered 'the. ores to be,opened, and 'a greet rush of people into tine halt immedlifely toOk 'place ; hut, happily, no one, Rs far as we have heard, was injured by the pres ante. The priconets - 'Were then ordered to be brought up, and soon, appeared in the Mr. Hunt appeared first, and the iest" in succes sion, till the space allotted them Was so crowded, that they pressed upOn and jostled one another. — Their names were caned over, and answered to in the' foll Owing order t—Henry How, joserph John :ion, 'J. T. Saxton, John Knight. James MoOr house, Samuel Banton!, Jol:n Fleakey, 'George ift, Thos. Taylor, Itobt. Mirk; and Elizabeth Gaunt. Moorhouse, enteringthe dock and standing front, refused to doff the reform badge, of the white hat, to the Magistrates, proclaiming (when deshed to micover) in a tone of real effrontery, or assumed indignation, that Men .who had so miscon ducted themselves bad forfeited all title to defer ence or respect, and that they should meet with none Irons hill)." An officer by his side soon set- tied this poisit of etiquette; by rerbOvittg the ob- noxious head-piece. flout's deportment was ex tremely courteous. We never saw him ipparently in better health or spirit's. Elizabe►h Glow could nen he at first seen, ►caving, been• keeomnindared with a chair behind her male corkipanfons. She answered to her dame hit feebly, being tioahle to speak out, from a tendency to faint. Saxton an swered to his n a me With an insolent tone and vulgar vehemence., Hoot bowed, aud said, Here." His time, however, for speaking and ac•ing now commenced. The Chairmaollins begot' his address—" Henry► hunt, Joseph Jtaltiisoo, and you severally whose names have been read over, you have been remanded on a charge' of Hight Treason." Here there was so Much noise Inon the agitation of the crowd behind the dock, the living mass not having yet gained the consistency at which on occasions like this It Is uSuallY si lent, that the Magistrate could op be heard. Mr. Hunt, with sortie Vehemence, interrupted him, saying, " I cannot hear; you Must coilimand hence. so as to be heard. There was more order at the Meeting the other day." The Chairman called out " Order," and tltus,•interrupted the speech of the - Orator. Mr. How—" I must beg to bear ; the matter seriously concerns us ; yua must be heard." A short pause ensued, When, compara tive, silence being obtained, the Chairman again commenced his address to the folloWing pttr port :—Henry Hunt, Joseph JohnSbit, and yOu all, severally, whose names► have been read over, When you were last' called up into this Court, you wene remanded on a charge of High Trea son : on remanding you, you were informed that the whole of the evidence bad • been sent up to London, to be laid before the LaW Officers oh the Crown, and-in tire mean time you are to be detained. It was not until this morning that a a communication was made frbin Government, stating that the LAW Officers of the Crown had fur the present abandoned the higher charge. — That communication Was not Miatle to me ; yet there is a Gentleman present (Mr, "touchier) has enure with orders to proceed upon a less ctiarce. The elm* gliaigh Treason is nit !jet dbaddoned, but Government proceeds now against you tor a minor offence. - Mr, linnt..—ls the charge Of murder then . abandoned ? I understood flow a. Magistrate I v , aS remanded until the Coroner's Inquest had sat; On a charge:of murder as well as trOison. Mr. Holton,. front the Bench, said—l did not felt yim*so. . . Noorhot.se;—This then turns out to b e a farce. Norris.—Moorhouse,l shall feel it my ditty tu'reniand you', unless you conduct yourself 'pto per:_y,. .Mr. Milne . , the clerk to the Magistrates, then called over the navies of the witnesses, whose writteii depositions In . e held : the prisOneis were requested to _orient! to the depositions, and told they ; had an'opportunity of questioning ;the wit nesses concerning , thcm. On : witting the book into the hand. of the first, Hunt desired lie.inight be'exmined - ttioneraryd . the Test :ordered- to leave the Court. ,Mr.,Boti.chier, said, lie i shthilil not oh fret to this. The first witness vvhos .aletiosit ,tvas proposed ro 'read -was Sha wcross, clerk to the police: 'Mr. Hunt asked - his name:, Hand demanded that he might be•examined its open Court before he heard his former detoition reed. The Ongistratus ohj2etato this and over. ruled it. the deposition was lead.- This witness deposed to having , purchased at' 77p Observer Of fice, on the- 31st of July- last, a.-,paper called The Observer, containing the - tollowiag notice of the first intended meeting,. of the 9th. or- Angnst: PoaLtc ;I , lv l FriNo.-, 7 l.lleipubfic are re spectfully int . orined,, that a Meeting will he held here on 'Monday, the 9th of August, 15419; on the area near St. Peter's' Church, to take into consideration the roost speinly and et—i, fettual ;node of :obtaining Radical Reform 'in the Commons' .House of Parliament Owing .fullv.convinCed, that, mithing lets . can remove 6d 'hardenMe evlfs the peoide .of this country hare so long, and do still groan; and also to consider the ; propriety of the.' unrepresented inhabitants of .I‘;,49llester" electing a person to represent them in P In arlia ent ; and the adopting Major Cartwright's bill. " 11.'HUNT, Esq., in the Chair. " Major Cartieright, Sir Charles Wei Tacky, Mr. Charles Pearson, Mr. Wooler, and Godfrey Higgins, Esq., have been solicited, and are expected to attend. "WIDIJAst OGDEN, 2R, - Wood-street,” (and ten others.) " Chair to be talien at re o'clock. " Manchester. July 2.3 . , 1819- " The Boronghreeve, Magistrates, and Constables, are re vested to attend. " On the sane day, after the Meeting, there will be a pub lic dinner, at the UnionSchool-rootns, George Lcigli-street.— Dinner on the table at 5 o'clock. " Tickets. 10s. KJ. each, including all expellees, ►nay be had at Mr. Wroc's, Bookseller, Mallet-street." , The, following advertisement tor the second Meeting on the 16th was 'likewise read, with the omission of the names of the Rerptiaiiiot)isrs MANCHESTER PUBLIC MEETINC:.—AI Requisition having been presented to the. Boroughteere and Constables of Man chester, signed by above 700 inhabitant householders in a few hours, requesting them to call a public tit, etinZ, "To consider the propriety of adopting the most legal and effectual means of obtaining a Reform in the Commons House of Parliament," and they haying declined to call such therri9" the undersigned Requisitionists give notice, that a Public Meet ing will be held, on the area, near St. Peter's Chorrh, for the above-mentio ne d p ur p ose , on Monday the 16thit;stant— The Chair to be taken by H. Hunt, Esq. at Twelve o'clock. " Major Cartwright, Mr. Woofer, Mr. Pearson, Mt. Car lile, Dr. Crompton, Edward Rushton ' Mr. J. Smith, Mr. Thomas Smith, will b e i nv it e d t o attend this Meeting. - ,A,‘ Manchester,. 601 August a 1819." The deposition coot inued that th ese papers w ere extensively circulated in Manchester : the witness then produced the well-known prohibition of the first Meeting, of which the following is tfic copy :--- - , " NEW BAti.V;v COURT-HOUSE, SaftlE4Ry, 91st, ltl9. whereas it appea'rs by an Al;4:1 tiseinkt in iiteVanche's ter 0' server paper of this day s that a jiutilic anltillegal meet ing is convened for Monday, thelttkday of August next, to beheld on the Area near. St. Peter's_Church, in Manchester ; ewe, the undersigned Magistrates, acting fur the Counties 'Palatine of Lancaster and Chester, do hereby caution all irerso,aa to abstain at their peril from attendinglOcirilteril 'meeting. e. W. Hulton, I. Hahne, " .1. Norris, It. Marvh, " .1. Entwistle, • '.l'. Trafford,' ~ W. Nlarrintt, It, Fit:U:l)er," "'l.'. W.'. 'ration,. This was the whole of the evidence of Shaw- cross. finnt—linve I now the liberty of txatuining, the s‘vitness? Chairman—Yes, certainly. Bunt to the witness—Where is your residence? Witness—No. 4, Blossom•strect, Salford. Mint—What is your profession, Sir ? Witness—l am a clerk to the PoliCe-office. Huot—liare you any other employment ? Witness=--No. Bunt—You purchased these newspapers, did you wit twqs----Yes.. HU:it—What is the date of thi first ? Witness-31st July. Ift'int—Do you know whii inserted these adve'rtisettictitS'itt these papers ? The Chairni:in here interfered, and said that this was not evidence. frua—Wlio urged you to purchase the paper ? The Chairman again interfered, and protected the Witness from answering the question. Hunt—Then am I to understand that the witness ii not allowed to answer the question'? . . Chairman—The Court does not think it relevant, and will not alloW the witness to answer it. 'Hunt—You purchased the other paper of the 14th Aug. ? The - witness was nut allowed to answer the question., Hunt —Your name is on each of the papers. Who direCted you to pot your name there ? The Court again interfered, and would' not allok the wit- ness to answer the quest Von. Johnson, one of the prisoners, to the witness—Do you take in these papers regularly, or did you purchase these papers for any particular purpose? The witness Was not, allowed to answer the question, the Bench declaring, through its Ciniir- Man, that it was sufficient for him to State that he had purchased it and marked it with his name., Matthew downer's (An accountant), another witness's de'position, Was then read at the table. He deposed to - the . natiire of the meeting, gave a history of the proceedingi, and produced his notes of the commencement of a speech purporting to he Me. Hunt's. So far as We conic) rollect it, it did not differ materially from what has been 'pub lished in the newspapers. Witness f a rther de posed, that be attended at 12 at noon ; that by that time half of the assembly had collect , d ; that most of the persons who composed it carried sticks, mote like flails than walking-sticks ; that, they advanced in military array, wilt flogs anal the witness here enumerated SCVer4l flags, and theinseciptions upou them: that ori'Of thcs6 bgs had upon it "No Corn Laws," and on the other side a bloody dagger. 'rhetl , '2A were in a!l and he saw 5 daps'ilt - liberiY.--[When the de position had been read, the wittitss who swore it was examined by Mr. Mot.) Hunt—Where do you reside, Sir? Witness—lA Manchester. ' Hunt—Would yo n favour we with,Your particular address ? The Bench, throng!) its Chairman, again intkr fere'd,' and would not aIIOW the tvi;ness to answer the - question'. It was sufficient for the witness Co declare" that he lived in Manchester. Hunt--1 demand, as an act of justice, to know t h e re',4.lenee of this man: It will he'obseried, .• • .. that he a very Material. witness . ; and that his evidence may deeply effect ns all. 1 on 'entitled to knOw" Where to find hiM, Unit if, Mier the trial of the queitiori; it shall be' found thei : e was no ground for this charge, I may have my retnedy agailfst him by'pros'ectiting him 'for perjury, or obfaini6g redre'ss in some other way. 1 dernand, theretoce, as 'a , right, to , know o his residece.— Mr. Hunt tittered this with considerable violence of voice and geslure.) The Maglsta4tes consulted for a' mionte; and then decided against complying with his demand through their Chairman, who said that there was 00 Ole for Mr. Hunt to use - ituimidating- griake ; it was not necessary to reiterate the word depihd,, to 'obtain that justice to which every Byirishstibiect was entitled, and which might be cikained by'a request. Hi further sr atetl, that he did not' think it was treating the .Court with sufficient respect to talk of demandirig, as there was no disposition to refuse what was right, .and no chance of obtaining what was wrong, by' the use Of strong terms. The request of the pri soner would go as far as his demand. The Court had considered the nature of the question put to the witness, and did not think it necessary that he . shoirld give his particular address ; the de scriptiOn that ,he lived in Manchester, and was au accountant, wa% quite sufficient. . . Mr. Hunt' begged leave to reply to the observations of the Chairman. Chairman—The Covert will not be replied to. Hunt—l was merely state, that I had no intention of offering any insult to the Court- - - Chairman—The Conrt takes it for granted that ynu did not, and requires no apology. Hunt again began with stating—l offered no insult to the Court; when the wittiess'refused to answer the question, I appealed to the Court, and requested that he might be order ed to answer. I put this question in the shape of a demand, because I wi!l accept of nothing as a favonr.—(Then address ing himself to 'the witness,)—Now, 'of what profession are pin ? Witness—l am called an accountant. • liiiiit—ls that your only occupation ? Chairman to anser thit. gnestion. Hunt—Were yin: a special constable on Monday the 16th at the Meeting ? " Chairman to witness—Don't anssier that vestinn. Bunt, with great vehemence and apparent surprige—Not answer that qt,tstiott Have yon any other employment than tilat of an accountant? Are you not sometimes coOt'l eci Si a short-band Writer ? Witriess=4 sometime; take reports of sperchei. prita t. Hunt—For th e public N ewspapers, or f u r - amusement ? Chairman to - Witness-Don't 31151VVI' that questiour Hunt—Then you say that y ou t oo k ruy speech 0" lb ed4 of the !‘leetitig ; did you tak e it i n s h or t-hand, or otkeo:tr. W Witness-1 took extr a ct s boatboatit the ground , an d at ; _aidwirote it cart at length. t o ok only the lead in g seo. . t I do not Mean to swear to all the words. w ordfi Hunt—Are von sure that you did not inisplace toe, 0 „; putting some of them which you h a d in one. ten tenee i n 3 other. Witnesss replied in the negative.. limit-p.-1i did eke- - :der of the OF etc did you make out the remain,. (Korai these 'extracts and leading, words of roars? Witness—l (flied it up from inetnin v. Hunt—When did you write oat this speech from memory Witness—ln the evertiti;. • Hunt—At what time was it delivered ? Witness—About one o'clock, cir / Hunt—At what liner, theta, did you reduce 3 .0-- notes into lung sentences? Wittiess—Aboat five o'clock at night. Hunt—Be so g oo d as t o sta t e h ow you were etfipiol ed the interval. The Chsitirsan kete interfered, and ts' 0111 " l ti allow the ItT MIS w cr the queiticits.' Ilnnt remarked with consideratild this interference, sdying that it was estire',. - ,,y - ; important that an answer' should he tibtO rtecr ilw : The witness h a d st a t e d, th at a very con iiderov ot interval had intervened bet ween the de livi l (Ise speech and the preparati on o f ilia verii`)-,1 it ; and that its the mean time he had. intros" - Considerable part of it t o hi s memor y. 1.1!e re r: tentiyeness of his memory w ou ld o f course vg "•it fected by the importance of the other events Which he had been engag e d, an d t h ere fore_ it. j but ust that he should state boW he had been e " --. ployed.—The Court over-ruled this dem and ' Hittit-You state that yon saw CO and that there was one of them witha bloadv:disige r what else wai there besides the bloody dagger: Witness—l observed nothing else. .. 4 110 Hiatt—Did you.observe no figu re o f J u sti ce , trial tbe' 7- in one hand, and a dag ger , w hi c h you ca ll a bl o od, d efr in the other? Witness replied in the negative. o ? Hunt—Well; will you sw e ar th a t th ere was nothinf -e Witness said that be could not swear to there be iDg " •thing 'else. V S - Hunt—Now, you say that you saw m ilit a ry arra) ? do you wean by military array? offer. Witness—Why, I mean people marching in regnta 't° as regiments march. • • fltint—Have you no Benefit Societiei in Manchester • sa hare you not Orange Citilts in Matichestei ? . m it; Witness—l never heard that there acre 'Orange O tt " - g . • • The Court here interfered, anal said chat th e '` questions were qni:c irsadevatsi. _ Hunt,. 03 4, 1 0 other hand, contended that they were (rite t" ' lo 'r purpose; for when fie' witness spoke of order being military array, it was proper it'... u - ht io , his mint! instances ill Which the former I°l7i-0i occur without the 'latter. (Then witlressini.' lr9 'C self to the witnesS, asked)—id xor, peve r benefit clubs maridsing ith musi D c HaOi hamle ts The witness atssk-Vered its the arfirinative; * r? !runt --Have you not seen them marebingirere.4 lll ' r(r t e he "1:lie Court : here issartertd, and sit.cl ir e ' " 9 4 question irrelevant. The Chairtnat, tile„tiotlo-:0 that, iu intertuptin g the p r i soner. i n these ' 04 • 11 qtlestions, lie anal the other Ciesstlemen oc tetl their best discretion. , ai ent Unlit, with great courtesy.—And, Gen"-.04 I Miss( bow to that discretion. ( l'hen the witness)—Yon stated that the ills s 3 e vicks its the hands of the persons who ca.t'e to t.te thresh in;; that; Meeting were, more 1 I tl I i j,ig sticks. Pray whist do 'von and what is the difference between it and a " L' ing . st'ick? ea 'llse Magistrate here interfered, and pre vent the WitilcSA frool ansWiqing the question• be' was'anxions tdobtaits >in ArotA•ert 1!& chose, had I been all Owed to gn on, I sb° 6o l have drawn from the witness that there " CIS ' thirig . chore commonto the cisontry rl fd le 3(1, to use their old flails for'walking:aticks• ( 00 dressing himself to the wit ness)-;—Pray th.!v held ? e tS ' Wititess,—They were shouldered like ni t " - e Alan y other questions were put to this wi to ; i na but from the rapid manner in wh cis the Coce Yersation ,Was carried on, and the little impo rts gtj a of some parts of it, it would b e indeed superflatous, io report it. The deposition of another witness, Richard Owen, a pawnbroker', was die ° ' e dit . ... 1 - 1 e deposed to the military array in which til e -d e . ferent parties advanced to the meeting ". be t o posed to the having seen Hunt in the cart: " s of having heard a command giVen by one of th e P ibe ir in the cart •g to leaghe together and to k eel) ei• 'enemies oast," with several Other circnni stiv : hi , 'rise witness then appeared, to be examine d deposition. Hart—Wiirre did von make this deposition ? Witness—On the held. he tvit „ego T Clerk here interfered to correct thehim anal was supported by the Chairman, that lie conk! not have sworn it on the " (•,1 tat iltmt objected,,in an atsiteated manner , t ar r very indignant terms, at tit is interferen ce •,nd waist the answer of the witness Iron, itinisei',recc tint from you. You are ititurfering, t ° c : e r titta hint, and to set him right in a at - atter - lt already sworn." sti ll t(7 The Chairman endeavoure.al to explain, :Jeal show that the witness must in eve toist+Pp rehe tine question.—:slr. Hunt cout iooed io aieckre 11/ it ' 4 ' 43 Most indecent ir4 tire lerk to interferen-arC• The Chairman taitt it wa s w e ll done in I , l ille of the clerk to int e rf e re —Ma' . litint hov 1 " a iti Court, and continued his ex,smillistion. ---Y°° 9 'pm made this deposition itn the field, hp' field, t Witness—Yes I made the first part of it on t A .,- • on the Field that I saw you entinang it in a cari•-;:ii,,e 11,1int --Did swear that vou sag nothing trtory 1 " Sti w enter ire it a ear ? - 'l)3. ' Witness-1 swore that the town was C" t er w ee tt og ought to he pot it stun to• . 01 , " Hunt—You did not swear tl:c The Magistraa es here interfered, AO S it was not at all necessary tor the witne ss ") k hole of this tiet.' osill !Wit ~ "_ ...►. ~. to El i gilt! k r a , le Jlt skv i I trP ti ran 3;il .. H , : t i 'it: , 1 j