The Sun. — London, England, 1819-02-20 00:00:00

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OE4 o ieral l o pt' Pre ' ,n do an' t ble ono ura the P• le of be ed i aS to an' b, A s ti tho`l o o rd '44,"b1.0 r it to t tioo s3°` e i f ~ri s which , bl 5 , ct§ .00 le7llatt. a ilia f )0 tr e lie e r 0 1 '1 . - .tte , , w e leuti°ll I!" of c ,cisi)6l to L 'llc e t o ' 41 ;eOl fro te' o oo. v bt , -ft : 4 4! t he 1 b or chid; its , )ri °' s o f ao" Its If P r oe - S oe . ee „jct.-7 os °l :4 415 „ 0 it' +at e d to c, :10 1 oro t oe ittf i d i t he Ds I talic , re pth • r 1 oil I,eo. of t of efh, r) ) 1'; $ 1,14: F :feW esiej) a 101,1! 10 4 tIO 0 te o or° , 10 : t b re° tit' t )1 4 " 3 0 07 ,f i t)° gls 3 , be e f 1 „ 11 ," to" • 1)1', f ole ffr .1,;13 II is fit 1/ ie siai • io s' ° , l efl l . 4 $ 04 1111 ,e4 l 1' ih e (~,. p ar ' " L 9us result of the investieation at u , 21 . 5, a - round sum was specified, which .. iii agreed to be taken in lieu of all claims whatever. It would be seen how every such an arrangement must be in 7 point, of view to this country, which that.lll(.. " into thet condition with France, ac instead of having with her an open unsettled thi s me a t y' We had an actual money account ; and tits wa s in a great measure owing to the exer tin" Of a Noble Duke, to whom his countr y are _:estly so much indebted. —(Hear bear 1.)--The 11 , tile Government had agreed to inscribe on the, 3 ',, f re a t t, book of its public debt for the other States ii E urope, a rente of twelve millions and forty ,:,sand francs, which, by thus separating their i ai ms from those of the creditors of this country, lo ",at the disposal of each a precise sum to apply ti ne own subjects. To the first Convention we lii "e Were parties ; our claims were first recog bsed by the peace of Amiens, and confirmed ti Y „ t , of 1814. To the other we were 'in tim" 1 ° Common with the other States of Eli ejte,' 'and it related to those parts of the Conti pr ' which had been dismembered from lo' n ee, and .to other sums due Go account of the 1, 4 ' at France, the Isle of St. Lucie, and the lonian eff:d'• It only femained with Parliament to f ur rid.the means of apportioning the sum stipulated t i e t4IS country, which he hoped would be suffi- Th i/ ,: t t' aseet the demands of all the claimants.— il ea - e ase was like that of the Loyalists of Awe tntlr and lie hoped there would be but little mur lit i t il ; g at the arrangements which had been made. liettntlthed, however, distinctly to apprise those Pre, - „ 11 ,' who might he disposed to speculate in the tl t - `, ll or any foreign stocks, that they must not s tii ll 'ate up on any future interference of the Go stibillent of this country, or expect that they will 14,1,:lil themselves to enforce their claims, which tie t r t hey should not have done in this instance, vto'al Particular circumstances demanded it, He /1: '7, 11 ."IY say this was no longer a litigious suit, l, Judicial one, seeing we bad in our hands a tlit:t,!°lial sum of money, which was a . more llitvlag reflection to creditors, titan to think )Ittill'llould have to deal with Commissioners at 11*11,),ltii(t: nvealitott,telliyowever disinterested they may be, throw in the way all the obstacles i‘'llove for Could suggest, He should therefore 'ee ""' leave to bring in a Bill, to enable the ' i 'lliss Ilia, inners appointed by his Majesty to , distri , - (iest4rtranngst persons having claims on the French Vettin-ilitsnent the sums provided by the two Con- Prii i ,_ concluded with that Government in I ti 1 614 „ 1 . ,„ . 'hi D', lis,""ANey perfectly agreed in the zeal for ! ate ..I,,ulie ServiCepwith which this measure had ,tzliiii,:);tlgiecteti• There was, however, a class of ‘l°ll, li n t `vh() were entitled to some considera °lietaii who may not 'possibly come under the k tt) r ," f this distribution— he meant those . tl tte o 3 w ho had not given due notice of their tli tb 4 "l e French Government; he apprehend._ 11 1 . 4 t th e ~ te tt , ' y were at least entitled to a share of -l ettit ""s Which remained after the recognised A 't ors had been satisfied. se eati vers a , k r 'llPstA "ion then took place between Lord NaweoßT, IN t i s , , U k Q ". Mr. TIERNitY, Sir JOEIN . hi'-'41t1.46-‘SSON, and Mr. DENNISON, 111 which the G"' 4 . it , o - v s its to 1 I reply to a question from Mr. Tier for ete rbe 'ow the two years which_ the French a said , 9l were in arrear were to be 1 t 1 Il'illi that that Government had agree( o pay '''tt• - a ll ati lii N o nilally for five ' years, of which three for t Itlitt..claally paid ; but the time allotted limited s a r m eie t gla il the other two years, being first !Met, mo nths , was atterwards extended to Itlti k ilt ,l) ':' . a nd finally to two years and three I, e 't'le B 0 : ( ' that, a t the end of that time, the h . l. c_ trit ''' the principal, with interest n e t t five the t ee • Woold be discharged. He, Itt l i sti4 l lee . admitted the propriety of appro lt%° r.,,t‘i die discharge of the claims of those l e h t 't.hiL - i . nut been recognized, the . surp t u e s lltrern remain over and above. paying had lt IN, fit(litors, The Right lion. Gentleman t ry net t ( ', a t the whole stun to be had from t h e I,tlileit7vernment would never reach this coon it, tats on e expended its keeping in repair the for °tee the frontiers of Holland. Could he be ilf 4 . 11t of , 4 11 110, tile purch a s es which . had been made tollciii"„le colonies in the West Indies frt e n hen ti t i l e . tt i 11l truth, if be had seriously app %ii, at s t , , ih, • l e d li' l lIpi• - ta rp a suns as two millions had been .1 14 f or d' it was an indirect reproach upon s g i w a , having suffered it, ant . th i s .. ti t . i ( i Ti ail ale season to inquire into it. A cats 11'er,, had been drawn, insinuating! that f I t ' t ' 11 0 1 11 : 4 4 had shown a greater partiality or Otil, "ra of funded property than mercantile . t nta ' T he business of investigation might 1 1 ; l keti erm 1 with lit hint •et - mercantile to funded proper il pro it was quite different to . 'i,' Yi where it was obvious the claims of 11 ele o le hp als could not be so easily ascertained.-- ~_,a i tra hs t ot was a question in which not only the " t til -gl a Were interested, but the public in ge . 1 t sti, t ought to be recollected that segues li)llll' t ook place on both sides of the water; l 'lt',. 4t if British subjects had suffered by them i 'sh e , i t i t ri ,e. trench subjects 1141 suffered by them 14141i1l i, /`'anil. Considerable property had been , r a.ed in 1793 ; but in 1794 or 1795, the 4 , " e ll sanctioned such a measure was repeal- It l e 6, ~ was hot to be expecte d , and he wish e d i t aiVert) tnsti nctly understo o d, t h at the British Go ut,:l'ent sh ou ld i dentify itself with the specular 1)/),a(4 i ndividuals. U pon those claims which et ithi'r.til tair an d we ll founded, a respectable body tle, i 6 t tdlials w ou ld ad j udicate ; and he bad no tn. ti t at all clue consideration would be given eie nt e l ehject, so as to effect an equitable adjust sit on both sides. of - lf, J . 'MN 1%4%1,1'011T observed, that the property tetoie_llish individuals hail, in many cases, been ltstio.'llated. in Franee, contrary to the law of 4 Leave given. 11 Ilaieeier WiesoN, in rising to ask one or t6e_tleestions of the Noble Lord opposite (Cas lite7grh), disclaimed any wish on his part to itn ebjeeltl )(tile motive s to the Noble Lord. His sole ai ry fro m til vindicate the character of the Coon ritt ; 511 imputation that we had pledged our %%'llieli ? la ' as "res. `with regard to other nations, bet ttr_ w ii :h:a l i i i :l s i tniotTet I , l; r t e i g a i t i y . t proper, when intr.o by this . ute Lure . sanction 111 our oui . g i Ai the With the Allied Powers, to furnish any information upon it, but contented himself with stating, that he would be ready to state such particulars respecting it as any Member might feel desirons to know. The Treaty he alluded to was that which professed to be for the maintenance of the peace of Europe, and this should have his cordial assent, were be not ap prehensive that measures had also been entered into which might compromise the character of the Country. Lord CASTLEFIEAGH could assure the Honour able Member that no measures had been entered into which bad not previously been sanctioned by Parliament. Sir ROBERT WILSON wasperfeetly satisfied with the explanation of the Noble Lord, and congratu lated the House upon it. SLAVE TRADE. Mr. J SMYTII, after a few observations, in the course of which he regretted !he extent to which the Slave Trade still prevailed, notwithstanding the Treaties concluded wit)► Foreign Powers for its suppression, and urged the necessity of criking immediate steps to carry those Treaties into effect, moved for copies of all appointments of Commis sioners intended to carry into execution the Trea ties entered into with Portugal, Spain, and the Netherlands, in 1817, respecting the Slave Trade, and of all instructions sent to Commanders of cruizers on the coast of Africa relative to the same subject. Lord 6ASTLEREAGEI said he bad ' objection to the motion, and admitted that the delay which had unavoidably taken place called for explana tion. He admitted that down to the present mo ment no instructions had been given to our cruisers on the coast of Africa, because there were no tribunals as yet appointed where cases of ves sels captured lb that traf c. could be tried. The delay in the appointment of Commissioners arose from the difficulty of procuring competent per sons to undertake the office in the Brazils, the Havannah, and Sierra Leone. This difficulty was, however, now at an end—rthe appointments" were made out. In answer to a question from Mr. DIUGLAS, the purport of which could not he collected, fienn the low tone of voice in which it was put s Sir C. ROBINSON went nearly over the same ground of explanation which Lord Castlereagh had already stated, and expressed a hone that the House would he of opinion that no unnecessary delay had taken place. Doctor PH►LL►MORK maintained, that the rea sons advanced from the other side of the Home went to shew tl►e necessity of the motion. The Treaties were executed in July and September, 1817, so that ample rime had elapsed from that period till November 1818, for the appointment of the Commissioners. Though the Civilians who were applied to refused to accept of those ap pointments, there were many 'at the Common law Bar who would have gladly accepted them. He was himself acquainted with two individuals who had applied in vain. Lord CASTLEREAGH disclaimed any knowledge of the applications alluded to. His only , object was to find persons duly qualified, but it was not always possible to get Commissioners cut and dry for the purposes of every Act of Parliament. Mr. alas declared the satisfaction which he felt at the measures that were taken to put an end to that inhuman traffic, and trusted that they 'would be finally enabled to prevent a trade so abhorrent to every civilized feeling. Mr. WILBERFORCE also expressed much satis faction at what had been done, but feared that the object of the Treaties could not be carried into effect if they did not go further. Mr. W. SMITH regretted that the trade was still cat tied on, but when he recollected the difficulty with which the passing of the Abolition Act was attended in this country, he was not surprised that the Continent of Europe should be so slow in its proceedings. He relied, however, upon the strength of the case, and hoped that the pro hibition would be rendered effectual by making the offence piracy at last. Mr. MARRY ATT considered that great credit was due to Ministers for what they had done, and he was of opinion that it was only by perse vering in a peaceable manner that the country could gain a final triumph over the detestable traffic. The happy effects resulting from pacific measures had been shewn in what was done for the Abolition in France and Spain ; and a con tinued perseverance in such measures would lead, to a lia ? py conclusion. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL contended, that there had been no delay on the part of Ministers ; but, on the contrary, every thing bad been done which could, consistently with the important duties they had to discharge to the country. He might further say, that no delay had taken place, as there was a general unwillingness in Learned Gentlemen to accept the offices ofCo►nmissioners. lie was the most determined enemy of the Slave Trade ; but he owned that means had been employed by many, no doubt from tl►e best of all motives, which bad led to abuse in some instances. Mr. ‘VYNNII thought that Ministers should have inquired what persons were fit for the situations, and that fixed salaries should have been allotted to them. In such an important case no time should have been lost. But what was the case? Why, the House had beard of no person being at all appointed. He would rest satisfied, if the mo tion could bare the effect of accelerating the ap pointment, because it was indispensibly necessary that no delay should take place• Lord CASTLEREAGH could assure the Honour able Member, that the motion could have no such effect, as every thing had been done, which could be done, to bring it to a speedy and proper con clusion. Mr. SMYTH replied. After which the motion was put and agreed to.—Adjourned at Eleven o'Clock. IMPORT OF GRAIN.—The aggregate average of Corn for the last six weeks has been taken, and will be published in the Gazette of this evening. The aggregate average of Wheat is M. 7d. ; the ports in coasequence will be closed on Monday next against the importation of Foreign Wheat, and will ciintiune shut until the 22d of May. 411 other descriptions of Grain are allowed free entry. WESTMINSTER ELECTION; • SIXTH DAY. The contest between Mr. ilorinotisß and Mr. LAMB was yesterday less vigorously cat rigid on than on some of the preceding days. In the course of the afternoon a ludicrous ►luestion was raised on the hustings as to the propriety of admitting the votes of performers from Drury-lane Theatre..— Mr. Robltouse's friends were of opinion that certain - persons in this situation who presenittd themselves ought not to be admitted, on account of their being the King's servants. The i)bjec , tion was stoutly opposed, and in the end 'over , ruled.—The State of the Poll was declared at the usual hour, when the numbers were as follow For the Hon. Mr. Lamb .. ' "1542 Mr. Hobhouse lOl6 Major Cartwright 36 The Pull was announced amidst 'the cheers' of the people, and the cries of " No Rump ! No Rump !" re-echoed through the Hustings. Mr. Hotuouss addressed the Electors. He observed that the Poll of that day proved that the enemies of their independence were not so suc cessful that day as they were yesterday. Yester-, day they had a majority of nearly four hundred, That day it had fallen to 145—[Hear, hear ! from the yellers•].--Perhaps he could account for the deficiency. Yesterday a public breakfast was given to the - Electors at Devonshire-House— [much disapprobation—" Ttie Duke of Devon .shire is on the Continent," from the crowd]. — That clay no breakfast was given, and the I . 3 7 hig majority was diminished.- The Whigs at this Election had been obliged to . resort to those arti fices which were formerly the monopoly of the. Court. Candidate. They had no other hold to en, able them to stand their ground. Fornterly'they Were looked upon as a better description of pub lic men than the Tories. That very poor suite tiority they. had now abandoned. Every.thing that rank and 'influence and station could effect, was put in action to destroy the independence of that enlightened city. They introduced them selves in couples with the Court, and intimi dated every Elector over whom they had in fluence' into an acquiescence with' their coni-: mantis. Noblemen, and the stewards of Noble,. men, went together to obtain these unworthy advantages. The orders Of the public offices were imperatiVe. The SeCretarieaof State issued their canvassing commands to exercise the ma jority of the Whig Candidate. - The Whig Can-, dilate will tell them, that he cannot help the ad herents of Government fihurioting for him. He will probably hereafter tell :them, that he could not help their giving him. a, place. What he looked for now was perhaps an object more de sired—it was the return of. a' Whig for Westmin- . ster, because such. a result . must give a certain consideration to his forlorn, party. His op, poneut had yesterday charged him with being a jesterhe 'Was described' as a second Joe Miller. It was hard, that do what he would, he could ~not please, the Whigs.—(A laugh, and cry of hear, hear !)—So that be was blamed, firsrfor not being- witty, and now the accusation was, that he was too jocose. His opponent was, howver,.eminent in that line, He bad yesterday tried his talent on a very respectable Elector, to whom l►e applied the line of at► old song, " The spruce Mr. Clark."—(A loud laugh from the crowd.)-1t was evident,. indeed, .that Mr. Lamb was the wit of his party.—(" True, true," from the crowd.)—His opponent yesterday 'described himself as, the friend of the. glorious Revolution of 1688. It was curious to see that Whigs and To ries professed an attachment . to the same object.. Whets the Tories opposed Catholic Emancipation, they grounded. their opposition on their attach ment also to the principles-of the Revolotion.—. Attachment to. that .Revolution was formerly the, successful watch-word of faction. The 'people were now too enlightened for such delusions.— The Candidate proceeded to animadvert on the answer of Mr. Lamb to Mr. Samuel Clark, and endeavoured to prove, that the man who had ac knowledged that he had not studied the consii- . tution•of the Borough system, could not be an efficient, or a sincere Reformer. Would the Whig say, he was for as extended a Reform as lie was ? if he says be is for Annual Parliathents, so was he (Mr. H.)—(" Any thing, every thing," from the crowd.) Mr. LAMB offered himself to the attention of the Electors, amidst cries of " Lamb for ever !" but he had scarely commenced to speak, when the organised interruption from the Rump yellers was in full action. He asked if it was the pleasure of his opponent's allies to bear him As lie was much exhausted, he would retire, unless they should be inclined to permit him to address them. The state of the poll was, however. the unan swerable argument.—(Hear!)--Starting as he did from the post, he had now a majority of 526 votes above his opponent on the whole poll.—(Bravo, bravo !)—The poll had certainly not proceeded that day with the activity of the day before.. That was to be attributed, however, to the wetness of the Morning, and perhaps to the over-sanguine expectations of his numerous friends, many of whom thought their exertions- were not wanted. He begged then), however,' not to allow such a' feeling. to influence them ; for with the fairest prospects of success be assured them they would have a tough battle to fight—[Right, Lamb ; you are no Munchausen.l—He felt that nothing he could say could obtain from the affected friends of freedoma patient hearing. He, however, assured his friends, that the time was not far distant when even those who interrupted him would be most forward to attend. His opponent had that day said that he could never please him (Mr. Lamb). He assured that Honourable Gentleman he was wholly mis taken. He had pleased him much, anti every speech he uttered he pleased him more—[Bravo 1] His worthy opponent talked of Whigs, as being a body little better than the Tories. With that designation he was satisfied—on that character he stood. He (Mr. Lamb) could take credit for ap pearing in no disguise. He told them unequivo cally his principles. But_ his opponent found fault. with him because some of the Electors attended a public breakfast. Why, at all events, if it were so, there was more solid satisfac tion in that, than in. the effort to care) a few straggling Voters by bands of *music and . . gaudy array Ofecoloers.—(Applause.)—Butsthen chine the charge ofeNoblemen intimidating the Electors. : Did his opponent think, that such ran dom insinuations could have any effect on any intelligent man ? Was be .prepared.ttesays and to • that conclusion his.stetement went, that the inde pendent and enlightened Electors : of eliar great City were to be intimidated by any set of men, be their rank oreinfluence what they may ?s--(Ap •plause, with groans from the Rump.) ,e-The allies of, his opponent,. lie perceived, Yeeetved.their in terruption. e-They ; have the advantage of the ground, and endeavoured .to press down pews . .those who have the liberality to listen to every Candidate. One - observation of , his Honourable . Opponent he was anxious to correct, and then he should conclude. He did not say that: Mr. Hob house, in his flashes of wit, had..already reached the excellence of Joe Miller ; what he said was, that he was likely to attain that .eminence im a little time.— (Bravo, bravo.) Mr. HUNT . appeared on the stage,. amid the most discordant yells, to which he listened with the utmost unconcern. He stated, that he was • determined to be heard before any other person addressed them, if he stayed till midnight. 111 r. Starch and Mr. IVishart, the two most respectable Members of the Rump, had quitted it in (Usenet, and left Sir 1,4'. Burdett at the tag end of it.—That fellow had fallen•down as low as Lucifer had ever fallen; and though he hod once been placed on the. highest pinnacle of popularity, had no sunk to the loWest pitch of public hatred. '' Have pityon him. Gentlemen e for once,'.', said the Orator, " quietly hear him speak ; for the more he speaks the more he will commit himself. You hate heard much Of a coalition between the Whigs. hod the Tories from Mr. Hoishouse—he is neither one nor the other, but an 'indescribable something between the two, and, to a cert a in( y e het ween. both he will fall to the ground." He thee irveielieil against the.Baronet's,nonsetteudance is Parliament, and asked him where he hail been the preceding even : lag, during the debate on Mr. fierenet's motion, and where, on a former evening, when the Chim. eiey-sweepers' Bill was brought into the House of ,Commons. He afterwards repeated his assertion that he (Mr. Hunt) had abandoned. Sir F. Burdett, because Sir F. Burdett had abandoned the people. --(Loud disapprobation.)---As the orator found that the reperitioti•of this declaration - was not re- • ceieed with the same laughter and applause as at the time of its being first made, and as he also saw that I4e was not likely to gain a quiet audi ence from the mob around him, he took his leave of them by telling them, that esSirfretscießur- , dett was very fond of making lotig speeches, he Would no longer detaiu them, but would allow them to feast their ears with the honied_words 41 which that arch humbug would address them. Sir FRANCIS BURDETT then came forward; but for some time could not he heard, amidst the ap plauSes of his friends and the opposition of a vast body on the other side. He began his address by expressing his high•satisfaction at the state of the Poll, on which he felt it was his duty to congra tulate them, peptise, notwithstanding all the ex ettions of their 'epponents to bring up' the off. seonrings of the Public Offices, and to dreg their victims, he was -disposed to have the utmost confidence in their final success ; and he had no doubt the .people ,of Westminster would chew, that' the springs of liberty were by no means 'exhausted, but would, on the present occasion,. biliSt : forth, and overwhelm their ene mies, and tlie 'tools of corruption. There was not the slightest grimed for despair ; hut quite the contrary, as the cause they had now to de fend was noq whether Iris friend Mr. Hobhouse or the Whig Cendlire. s'•ou'd be returned, but the real qties!ion was theelti•e of liberty,which, thank God,was vet net tine e to be desuaired of. Much had :been said in the veers' press about the ass having brayed the lien from the field; hut the allies of corruption world find it was a more difficult task 'to rouse the lion than the hare. Now the Lion of Westminster began to rouse himself and to be warm, and where was the malt who raid(() dare to stop him ?--The puny efforts of an Aristor:rati cal. Conle.leracy would be found --unavailing at last, though that Aristocracy was supported by Whigs and Tories, and by the monstrous ad dition of a' third party ; but fte people of West minster would see that Coalition defeated,. sup ported as it might be, and was at present, by all the arts of malignity and wickedness. •The cause of truth reqnired only to be heard, in order•to its final triumph. Notwithstanding all the sneers ' which had beenehrown out against a respectable 1 Elector yesterday, in consequence of his being a bather, which occupation, by the bye, gained him ' the enmity of the Whigs - , he (Sir F.) must still say, that the barber had shaved the Lamb's bead very closely, and he should not he surprised if the ears were not soon .cut off. The great question was, not whether the ‘Vhigs or Tories should succeed, but whether the cause of Radical Reform should prosper or not ? 'Mr. Lamb had declared himself totally ignorant,. or, at least, he had said" he had not sufficiently studied the Borough. monger system. Mr. LAMB stepped forward.—" I never used such expressions, Sir Francis Burdett. When Mr. Clark put a question to me, relative to the local circumstances of /certain Boroughs, in the . particulars of which I find now that be was mise taken, I answered, that I was not then prepared to enter on the minor details, hut that the prin.. ciple ought to lre,corrected." This open and face to face denial made a strong impression on the multitude, and shouts of " Lamb, Lamb, for ever !" resounded thlough thecrowd. Sir FRANCIS • proceeded.—Unquestionably the plan of reform proposed by Mr. Lamb waatmin telligible, while that- of his Friend Mr. Hoblionse eras capable of being ttuderstood by the meanest capacity. He hoped the Electors would not spew themselves such as they were described by the daily venal press, but would prove to the world that they were consistent in every respect, for it was wetly impossible to rend the papers without seeing the falsehoods with which they abounded. The Morning Chronicle of this morn ing, as usual, was of mis-statements, tated by party feeling and malignity. Among other things it had saidobat the advertisement, relative to the car being sold, was founded its ,fact, as the car bad been previously,prepared for the chairing. Such, he ums instructed to soy, was