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Thompson, from the Amicable Society of Tobacco Pipe makers; and by Mr. W. Harvey, from the nine Friendly Societies of Harwich, Colchester, &c.—Referred to the Committee on the Bill. Mr. HENRY MAXWELL presented a number of Petitions from the Protestant Inhabitants of Cavan against any further concessions to the Roman Catholics ;* and Mr. BOYD l'etitiOns from the Ronian Catholic :inhabitants of Bantry and two other parishes in the county of Cork,: praying for Emancipation. Petitions were presented by Mr. P. Thompson from,the merchants and traders of Dover , ag ainst the importation of foreign barley; by Mr. Benett, from the farmers, &c. in the neighbourhood of Salisbury, Devizes, Warminster, and Marlborough (signed by 1,400 persons, and possessed of property to the a mount of a million per annum), for the protection' o f agriculture; by Lord Althorp, , from James Surry, of Battersea, praying that foreign corn might be allowed to be ground for exportation ;. by Mr. Calcraft, from the farmers and land-ownets of Shaftesbury, for agri cultural protection ; by Sir W. Ingilby, to a similar effect, from a variety of places in Lancashire ; by Mr. Heathcote, to a similar effect. from the county of Lincoln ; by Mr. Wilson, to a similar effect, from Whitby and other' places in Yorkshire; by Sir E. Knatchbull, to a similar effect, from Dartford and other places in Kent, &c. Mr. WARBURTON presented four .petitions for the removal of impediments to the cultivation of the Science of Anatomy, from the' Physicians, Surgeons, and Members of the Medical Society of Gay's Hospital; *the Medical So ciety of Edinburgh ; the Medical Society of Westminster ; and Mr... Knight, a surgeon at Liverpool. ' The Hon. G en tl eman o bserved, that in the absence of an Hon. Friend of his,_ he would not, that evening, press his motion for a Select Committee to inquire into the manner of obtaining subjects for the Schools of Anatomy, and into the State of the Law affecting the same. Mr. JOHN SMITH presented a similar petition from the Lecturers and Students of the Webb-street School of Anatomy and Medicine. Mr. MOORE presented a Petition from the Master and Wardens of the Corporation of Merchants, and ano ther from the Corporation of Smiths in Dublin, complain!. Mg of the power exercised by the Roman Catholic ARM elation in Ireland. Mr. MOORE presented a petition from the Master and WarJens'of the Corporation of Merchants, and another from ti. , e Corporation of Smiths in Dublin, praying that the law by which damages were given by counties in Ire land for losses sustained at riots might be extended to cities and corporate towns. Mr. C. BARCLAY moved for leave to bring in a Bill *to give the magistrates of the county of Galway a concur xent jurisdietion with the magistrates of the town and .counts of Galway. COUNTY OF CHESTER. _ Mr. WILBRAiIAM rose, he said, to bring forward a motion, which was'not of a pertial nature, as it involved the general principles of the administration of justice. The county of Chestesehad been deprived of the institution of .a Jury fur • seven or eight .hundred years, merely because William the Conqueror had thought proper to grant it as a County Palatine to one of his adherents. The constitu tion of the Court of Justice of the county bad been con - firmed by 34th Henry VIII., which constituted the Courts Assise throughout Wales. The county of Chester, therefore, lay under peculiar disadvantages. It was de pe:ved•ot a Jury; the Judge was obliged to dispose of the crimsnal calendar before he could try the civil-cases ; and, h owe ver well that . may have been adapted to the business of the esinotY in former times, it was no longer con venient in the present state of its commercial import ance. The resent system was. PgpenAive, and it was known that the ;edges of Chester were always. appointed from political. ntotiwes. Whilst Sir William Garrote was Member .of that House and Attorney-General he held the oboe of Judge of Chester, the three positions being totally inconsistent. with the Constitution, and with the principles of jurisprudence. The appointment had been generally considered as an insult tipog the county. The elilefJtisticeship of Chester was a mere (ping-atone to Anther offices, and this alone would. render the. 'existing system higlsly objectionable, The Hon. Member conclu ded. by moving, "That a humble Address be presented to his Majesty, praying that instructions might be given t o the Commissioners appointed under the Great Seal to in - .quire into the Defects -a the Courts of Law, to direct their early attention to the State of theMcniiistration of Justice in the County Palatine of Chester, with reference to 'the! Amendment Iliereof." • • • Mr:-.8.. LESTER seconded the motion. • , - Mr. PEEL apprehended that the Hon. Metnberewho , secosuled the motion did not underitand its object. Hay iag thus got rid of the-Hen. Seconder,The should have ea s little diffimlty in disposing of 'the original motion. The Hon. Member bad moved, that the subject should be re ferred std the consideration of the Coeaesissioners appointed under the Great Seal to inquire into the defects of the Courts of Law. Now, he only begged leave o remind the Hon. Gentleman, that; no such Commission texisited, she motion for its appointment, made by the Hon. and Learned Member for Winchelsee, being withdrawn, or in abeyance. The Welalt Courts had certainly not been within his (Mr. Peers) contemplation ; but he had no ob..‘ jection that they should be included in his forreteMotion on the subject of the superior Courts, and the Court ut Chester would also fairly come within the same range ; nor had lie any reason for not wishing that it should be inquired into, both as regarded the progress and expense of actions. Mr. DAVENPORT spoke in faiourOf the motion. Mr. WILBRAHAM expressed himself satisfied with what fallen from the Right Nan. Gentleman. ANATOMICAL SCIENCE. Mr, WARBURTON thought that the allegations brought before the House by the petitions which had been addresseel to them on the subject, Might be very 'shortie reduced. In the first place, the petitioners complained that they were not able to obtain a coMpeterst knowledge of anatomy under the existing laws ; and that, ueverthe ess, they were - lialt:.e to actions for dasiages from patient's for mistaken treatment: - ; and that they were also, in the cale of trials for murder, 4ce. called upon to give file most minute and accurate evidence, in order that the minds of the Jury might be satisfied. Now, without detaiisiog the House to enter into the state of the provinces, he would content himself with informingthem, that in London alone the number of pupils were between Nix and seven hun dred ; in addition to which there were 2,;0 driven to Paris, and 300 to Dublin, to study anatomy, on account of the cheapness, not to mention those who studied in the German and Flemish schools. If matters were left to find their own level, he thought that be put the average very low, when he said that there would he always 1000 areatomieal students in London, the PUPA , .of subjects to , xIIOU I must at least b e 2000. Now, what was the supple 1 authorized by the law at present? it was merely the bodies of those executed for murder, and that, for the whole co unty of Middlesex, did not amount to mars than He - in seven years. He did not intend to suggest remedies to the House; but if the Committee should be granted, lie would rather prefee leaving the remedies to professional gentlemen. A great de el was said and'; bought of the pre judices of the lower orcikrs, but he was not sure that they were not estimated too highly; et least, hehad lately been told by a scientific gentleman, that having occasion to lec ture to a body of mechanics on the soft parts in the lei. ; man frame—(A laugh)'--he represented to them that it 1 would be bnpossible for him to do so withoet having a sub ject before them. So far from any objection bein g ma d e to this, it was unanimously ag reed to; and on th e . e ' it y ap pointed, 1,200-mechanics met, and the subject, with tie face covered over, WaS introduced to them. With the ex. caption of one or two, who bad delicate 4...onachs end were obliged to withdraw—(A hogb ),—the rest I,etened to the lecture with the most profound attention ; and t'se second lecturer, *heal, after pursued the subject further. Thelion. tlentleman concluded by moving, " That a Select Com mi-ttee be appointed, to inquire into the &Isomer of obtain ing :Subjects for the Schools of Anatomy, and into the State t ef the Law with respect to persons employed in ph taining aod dissecting dead Bodies." Mr. J. seconded the Resolution. Mr. PEEL. could not but think that a strong case was made out, }ant. at, the same time he was anxious that ezery attention should be isaid to the prejudices of the lower classes; for though the higher orders looked upon such us prejudices, yet it could not be denied that they were feel ings connected with. the heart, and, ae such, flings that he should be very sorry to see outraged. With respect to the members of the medical Professien, it had been kis good Mamie to have held in the course of his life a very extended intercourse with them; aw e on The strength of that intercourse, be said that it was impassible to titan} in any profession' men of more enlightened views-of Ewe disinterested benevolence —or men who were more ready to afford the assistance of their scientific knowledge e eet i,„ who stand in need of it, without any view e oe se u i, awo personal aggrandizement. (Hear.) He felt that heves not speaking too warmly on the subject, urlAen he said that the profession was an honour to human nature.--(Hear, hear, hear.) But in spite of all this, lie still said, that, unless the question was conducted with great discretion,it would be rather retarded than forwarded by the present measure ; nevertheless he was not at all disposed to op pose the motion. As to the anecdote which the 11031. Gentleman had introduced, he, (Mr. Peel);coofessed that be had been disapPornted.—(A laugh.) He had been in hopes, that when he mentioned 1,200 mechanics had been assembled, something better would have come of it than two or three weak stomachs withdrawing—(A laugh), and the rest boldly holding out. The question was not whether mechanics could bear to witne.s a dissection, but how they would like, undergoing that operation themselves —(A laugh.) He could assure the House that he should be one of the last to deny the necessity of an adequate supply of anatomical subjects ; on the contrary, he thought it was an absurdity to contend that wax figures, or any other such resource, would supply their place : for Pf such a course were pursued, the consequence would be the. manklmg of live bodies instead of dead ones.—(Hear, hear.) But it was also objected, that the alteration of the law on this subject might tend to diminish the horror for the crime of murder which prevailed in this country; and bethought that this and other objections might be better discussed in the Committee, when it should be appointed. The motion was then agreed to, and the Committee theseupon nominated. Mr. FIYNG moved for " Leave to bring in a Bill to Repeal so much of the Law as requires the county to re pair one, hundred yards of the Road from the foot o' each county bridge."—Leave given. ADJOURNMENT. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved that the House at its rising should adjourn to Thuesday next.—Ordered. . CORN LAWS. On the motion by Mr. CHARLES GRANT that the SPEAKER should leave the Chair, and the House resolve itself into a Committee en the Corn Laws Act•, Mr. PORTMAN regretted to say, that he observed there'was little reason to congratulate the agriculturist on the prospects held out to them of protection from the com petition of foreign corn in the supply of the British market. The proposed regulations of this year were lets favourable than those of the preceding year, expressly for this rem= —that they did not afford positive protection. He took, as a point already on all hands conceded, that 60s. per quarter. of wheat was the.price or point at which protec tion ought to begin to be extended to the agriculturist. The price of corn was liable to perpetual fluctuation in consequence of the quantities of that article which might be brought into the country for the purposes of trade, and the facilities afforded by that principle of hostility to all prohibition, which was adopted into tie policy of Great Britain, and appeared to be growing stinger and stronger every day in all the branches of commerce. It was ob vious that all the corn imported for the purposes of trade, ' above what was required for the use of the country, must reduce the price of that commodity. When by this means it was reduced to the foreign level, it became exceedingly difficult to raise it up to that amount which was neces sary to remunerate the agriculturist. In fact, it could only find its proper level by a- progressive adjustment of ' the supply to the demand, which in the case of corn was all but impossible. The price was not affected in the corn trade in the same waists in any otheearticle ; for, besides that must necessarily depend , on the comparative produce of different years and of different countries, the number of consumers was always greater, and the demand at all times more impera tive. Having shown that corn could not be regulated like other commodities, he would next proceed to show what amount of protection.lie thought was required to meet the peculiar circumstances and condition of the growers in this country. He agreed fully in opinion with those who maintained that every fair concession should be made to the consumers, and that if possible the Legislature should not meddle with the subject above 60s. It would appear from reference to the last seven years, that the average price was from 53e. to b4s. Under the present system he wished that some. point could be taken below 605., at which some certain duty shOuld take place. The plan, however, which he would be most desirous to see adopted was that of which the foundation was laid by the resolution of the House of Commons last year. The present Ministers were most of them parties to that measure, and he hoped that the dis cussion which the subject had undergone elsewhere did riN,t wholly disincline them from taking the average at 58s. The returns before, the House would show that corn could be imported lower than they had taken it according to the present scale of duty. . If the resolutions proposed by the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Grant) were those by which his Majesty's Illinisters were determined to abide, lie hoped that the House would support him in a proposition for the subject altogether to that day six months, as he conceived that a Bill founded upon those resolutions would he most injurious to the landed interests. Mr. BYNG was anxious to declare to the Right Hun. Gentleman who had brought forward the resolutions, that wilateise,r satisfaction lie might suppose to exist with re gard to his measure, the agriculturists would have been still more satisfied with the measure of last year. They required more protection when the averages were from 525. to 5Ss. than when they were from 625. to 6 , 1.5. In fact, they wanted no protection from 625. to 645. M r , I..,IDDELL agreed in some respects with the Hon. Member for Dorsetshire, at the same time that he could not agree with the Hon. Gentleman who spoke last, in preferring the measure of last year to that which was now before the House. But willing a;,, lie was to support the present Bill, he did not approve of taking the protege tion a.t. a lower ratio than in the last year. They had ad ditional experie4c,e now to guide them, and that experience he thought would show mat foreign wheatcould be brought into this country at a lower price 44mt they had assumed, and endeavoured to support by their averages, He knew iiitaself from an authority which, if he chose to name it, would stoalmand the respect of the House, that foreign wheat could are and had been, brought into this country in the course of the lac year as low as 245. the quar ter. If 80s. were added' to that it would not amount to a prohibition. The whole amount 'would then be 541., inauding duty , whi ch was. lower than sBs., tl.ie lowest average contemplated in the scale of duties. Mr. BENETT put a r t ti.estion to the Ministers across the table, which was not audible in th!.... gallery. Mr. GRANT agreed with those Who titc,4,Thp that the pretiew subject was one which called for a greater latitude of dismal.= ;11 the Committee than it was usual to indulge when public msaNurcP ,lnul arrived at that stage. Upon tbat understanding he was sleaketts to act, and therefore he was anxious that they should go i.OtO . Committee as soon as possaible, without at-all wishing to preiitsde the most general discussion, of the various questions involved: ' ifi l e . Hon. Gentleman who had opened the subject had expres sed an opinion that 555, zi.a an inadequate protection, and that those who supported tbe Reastare of last year could have no objection to take 58s. or Rome Pais t. below 605., as one at whl e Js. a certain duty should attach . ' 'But the Hon. Gentleman, wi s est lie alluded to the measure of last year, was bound to take the whole and not au insulated part; yid if he did so, lie would ti'isad that in the same Bill it was also taken above 60s. He would allow that there Was great difficulty in ascertaining the price, pa the exact amount of the foreign corn which came to market. —That commodity was liable, like all othera, to'finc taaations from various causes,—the seasons, tkp means of transposta bad teir effect ; but above all, the slats A. 7 which the Corn 47:4e had been placed during the last 30 years operated to produke AO aggravate fluctuations to an extrat which bad defiance to catc,ul.4ion.—(Hear, hear.) ~-There was the gigantic scale both of prig and of pro tectiO4 Thich existed during the war, and dint rexe.tiv Act of I iN attbsequent to the war, and tending, perhaps,' rnsre than any o*.iFc . euse to confound inquiry and keep the prices in a perpetutri st4±l,..cf uncertainty.. - But though be admitted, it was true, that Ow/ ,could not come to an exact opinion as to the price or quantity a he article, they we; e ;set altogether without means of arriving At., averages upon ealkis ,it was. competent for them to legis late. The real question la - as, svliether the scale as now pro posed was such as to afford i'tuftcieaat protection to the agekalturist ; for lie would admit to the fil=aia,aliNe Gen tleman 'that tisa agriculturist ought to be protected, aott thy;; , the ground upotiwbieh the present as well as all the former measures proceeded was, ,that such protection should he afforded. The best way to dete,-,4ne this question was, to look at the p r i ces as the y ap p eare d its 4se gapers, upon whisk in the sense he had already stated, reiran - csa could be placed. ',The Hen. Gentleman had quoted the authority i of Mr. Canning for stating that 30s. would operate as a prohibition ; but the fact. was, that if, as in the present Bill, : they had , a varying d u ty, t h ey cou ld not say at any po i nt that there existed an actual prohibition. ;asides, the ar • t'leextcolusts j. i . : fe measurely citeto e.. th r e onfi present e a S sp e t n r yi t ceea m: r e o. a a u f . tu t h e ee , ! i g tv u l tne ag n e t q d ua id ily no a t pp a l p ic t , held it; ,his hand accennt foreign Corn 41 , 41 ported during the last s;:t or seven years, and he thought the House would say that they juatibed the scale Which Ministers had talteu: He sYtoold notice a few of them in the present instance. On refeiring! to the i mpor tations from Dantaic in 1827, h e f oun d l that the peiee at Dantzic was 22 5. The charges of ;itle conveyance were flt+te4 at 10s., which m a d e 3 25. in dependently of du t y . Theu. i . tal‘nc , - the duty a t 30s. the mimapnoltltiosainsip,riteheat*w"hiedatbiev'a6s2introrioAneoetil intohe' Hon. Gentle this count ry , in the course of last year, at 245. ffe (Mr. Giant) ipelieved that the Honourable pentlerntan alluded to an itn- ' ported= into the port of Hull'. ii,t:t br should like . to know, in the Cast instance, what the quality of the article • was, and also whethca; it remained in Warehouse for expor tation, or was let into the general market of the country. But whether or not, the Hon. 'Ociltietnan r nii,t be aware that a few extreme cases could not be admitted to bear upon the general argument. Batt to return to the case of Dantzie, he feared that the average price of the year pre ceding that he had already mentioned, was 2:35, Id., and of the year preceding that; . 23e. 2 d. With 'respect to Hambingh, of which be also bad the returns, the average rice of last year was 2Ss. 2d., 30s. duty would make it 585., independently of the charge for carriage. He might go to Holland, where the price was still dearer ; but look ing to Petersburgh, be found_that the price for the same year was 255. Id., the charges'for transport, were I Is. which, added to the duty, amounted to near '7os. He did not mean to deny that bad , ; corn might come in at a lower rate than any he had mentioned, or that under par ticular circumstAnces an abatement might appear, but ge nerally speaking, the averages would be found to bear out the scale upon which the Government had proceeded, as the instances he had produced would indicate to the House. • • Mr. lIUSKISSON reminded, the House, that they were at that moment in the same situation as when his Right Hon. Friend had moved that they should resolve themselves into a Committee. In fact, there was no ques tion before the House. If it was their desire to come at the question, they must agree to the Committee,—a pro position which no one could negative who was not pre pared to say that the subject of the Corn Laws reqnired no discussion. An Hon. Gentleman had asked whether it was the intention of Government to adhere to the resolu tions of his Right Hon. Friend, and stated his determina tion to oppose the Speaker's leaving the Chair, in case they were so determined. But that was not the way to deal with a great question. His Right Hon. Friend had declined giving any answer, and he was right. What they were now to decide upon was, whether they were prepared to go into the queition of the Corn laws. If so, they would agree to the motion, and propose any suggestiansihey might wish in the Committee, where they would be fully answered and discussed. • • Mr. CALCRAFT observed, that it was in the recol lection of the House, that a plan had been proposed in the course of last year, by one whose loss they all deplored, and it was but fair that they should compare it with the provisions of the present. He did not put the questiOn on any narrow ground of preference, nor mean to argue it as a. protection to the Agricultural interest; for it involved the interest of the whole community. Unless that interest was consulted,' the question could not be completely or sa tisfactorily settled. 'He would agree that the Landed in terest ought to be protected, btitnot merely for their own sake —it was due to them indeed as a part of the communitys-but the principle upon whichit.should be afforded was for the good of all. It was necessary that it should be pro tected, because, with all the ports open, it was impossible to say how great a supply they might receive from those vast tracts of country which only wanted encouragement to pour in their produce to the detriment of our own agri culturists. The Bill of last year had the feelings of the country in its favour, which fixed the pivot price at 605., but the present Bill, departing from that precedent, had fixed it at a lower rate, and upon a principle less Calculated to operate as a. certain protection. In 1815 we were told that the average price of corn for several previous years had varied from '7Bs. to SOs. It was his delight to reflect that he had foreseen the injurious tendency of the Bill then introduced into Parliament, and that he had opposed it to the utmost of his ability. We were then told in 1822, that in consequence of the peace, and of the reduction of taxation consequent on the peace, and of certain other causes into which it was unnecessary to enter at present, that '7os. was the proper average price as calculated upon the prices during the years intervening between 1815 and 1822 ; and we were next told in 1827, that 60s. was the proper average'price, as calculated upon the prices during the years intervening between 1822 and 182'i. Now, if we took into our consideration the price of coin during the last year, we should find that the proper average price was somewhat lower than 600. Why then, he would ask, should we jump all at once, and without any express rea son, to an average price above 60s. ? Was it gracious to the people? Nay, was it gracious to that large majority of the House of Commons, which in the last year had affirmed a lower price, in compliance with the wishes of his Majesty's Ministers, many of whom were still filling the same places in the Cabinet which they then occupied ? Without any reason whatever—for he would do the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite the justice to state, that he had had the modesty not even to attempt to give a reason for the altered resolution which he had this year proposed to the House—without any reason whatever the Right Hon. Gentleman jumped above the price on which Mr. Canning had Axed in the Bill of last year. To that part of the present resolution he must object on the grounds which he had before stated. With respect to what had fallen from his Hon. Friend (the Member for Dorsetshire), lie would observe that he fully agreed with him in. thinking that these resolutions gave you no protection where you were most vulnerable, and incumbered you with an insupport able weight of armour where you wanted no protection. From 40e. to btas. we were worse off than we were be fore ; and that was exactly the point at which the people at large did not feel any inconvenience. You thus had corn let in, when the people did not want it ; but when it rose above that price, and its dearness began to inconve nience them, you threw every possible obstacle in the way of its importation. For his own part, he did net pretend to understand the policy of this measure ; but he knew well enough the manner in which it had originated. We all knew that well enough, though we did not always say all that we knew about it.—(A was sorry to oppose any measure of the Duke of Wellington's Admi nistration—he wished to give it his support, if possible; and if he now opposed it upon this measure, it was be cause he found it necessary to support his own consistency on this great and important question, It was only natural for the Duke of Wellington to say that 645. was the pro per average price, for he had said so only last year ; and though it might be convenient for those who held seats in the Cabinet to compromise their former opinions on this sujees iu otdfr to retain them, why should he, who no spo in the Cabinet, imitate their example ? There was also another realen why that stint ,bad been fixed upon, which pleased him all little as that to which I:ie had just alluded. Ministers had said, that the pre sent was Op rat likely arrangement to get the new Corn Bill passed into a law ;)s , tier other .House of Parliament. He was sorry to say that he had beard a great. deal too much of this compromising language. It was only the other day that he was told, in a Committee up stairs, that there was a certain Noble Lord in the other House who 14sisted ;41 haying a certain clause inserted -in a Bill then under examination; 4 - 4tl the lisisise jyas now told, that unless they shaped their Corn Bill in such sad'_ such a man. ner, they would not have the slightest chance of getting it through the other House of Parliament. He should be eerr7 if they did not get it through the Lords; but sorry though he miap he, he should prefer acting on his own sense of .right to entering iflto x truckling compromise of principle with the other bialich of the isegisla tura. It would, indeed, be matter of ,regret to him, if, whep tae Commons of England were seeking to obtain a CheaP supply of Crud for the population at large, the other 'louse of Parliament would no; acc_edff to that which appeared to' thou to be only right and equitable. If, how-1 gs/0, such should be the disposition and conduct of the', Hotise Oftorrii, tlse Commons of England• must, for them selves, for their character, and for the respect which the other House of Parliament and the people' at large ought to entertain for them, adhere to what they deemed right, and perseyere in maintaining the principles which they had formerly upheik lie was opposed to these resolutions on two points, which hi hisi spud to the House : the first was, that they strengthened the irsiriStiltrirdi interest where it wanted no additional strength ; and the second, that they left it open to injury in the very quarter inwhich it was4l94 eTposed. The Right Hon. Gentleman oppo site had told them that pulmd7 could object to the Speaker's leaving the chair on the prkent oeettainn, ezapt tbOsc who were anxious that the corn laws'should 'remain as they now were. He would state at once that he was not 'ne of tiuve Erho wished the corn laws to remain in their present state. A snore, 'aeicise4 a;l4 , detestable system of law had never been devised on any subject in any , country' under the sun; and he thanked Providence that we had escaped so well as we had done from the mischief which it • Va i l so well calculated to produce. A state of prohibition at one tinle to a famine price, and-then a permission fbr coin to come' into ffie"connttylif unlimited finapities from any part of the world, and to interfere with'our agrient; ture, let the promise of the next harvest be as plentiful as it might ! He congratulated himself most cordially upon , having altyap orosed this system; and if there wits any part of hie : political life wirion gave 14m gertissilar plea sure in the retrospect; he must'say that it wai Ili constant and steady opposition to the c'orn , laws. Mr. ROBINSON had heard with unmixed satisfaction the Manly irPeecir of his' lion: Friend, the Member for Wareham. As be lihru;eli eriferiainild'setitirnents similar to those so well expresed• by his Hon. Friend, be had been induced to give notice ) that he would, in the course of these discussions, afford the House an opportunity of di viding upon the resolutions proposed by Mr. Canning last year. Ile hoped that his Hop. Friend, the Member for Wareham, who was so much more coropFten; t 4 e4ll' teals, would spare an lii;fithle and fnexperientsedlWeilibet like himself the inconvenience of being compelled to submit so grave and important a question to the House ; and he further hoped that his Hon. Friend would take it up hitn self, and tvotrld bring it forward with his usual ability. Mr.' CALbRAFir.--i 'ain extremely nattered by the kindness of my' Hoit. Friend the Member s for Worcester, and I now promise both him and the House, that 1 will', at the proper season, move • the question which my Hon. Friend stated that he had intended to have brought before the House. Mr. STANLEY concurred' entirely with his Hon Friend, the Member for \Varehaur, that there was very great convenience gained by taking a discussion on this sub ject on the question that the Speaker do now leave the Chair. The present was an admirable opportunity for obtaining, in a desultory yet satisfactory mode of discussion, the opinions of different parts of the country, as expressed by their different representatives, on the different plans which might be suggested—fer comparing the amendments which might be proposed upon the„.resolutions which were then before the House—for approximating them to each other—and for bringing the discussion into greater order than it was likely to obtain under any other mode of proceeding. He had as yet learned nothing in explanation of the reasons why the House of Commons was, in the present Session ' of Parliament, to recede frein the path which it had chalked out for itself in the last. There might be reasons of policy and expediency,—and he did not mean to blame any per sons for adopting them,—why gentlemen, holding respon sible situations in the Cabinet, might make concessions to their colleagues on points of national importance; but those reasons were no grounds for the House of Commons, nor for individual Members who were bound by no ties, except those of conscience and equity,' to alter the vote to which they had deliberately come id the last Session' of Parliaixiently a large majority —(Heir.)—He had heard much in the course of the Session, not only of the expe diency of Hon. and Right Hon.. - Gentlemen yielding up their opinions to their. colleagues, but also of the House of Commons yielding up its deliberite vote 'in 'the . other . House of Parliament. • - The argument might be - Very good for official personages, but ought to-have no weight with a British House ofCommons.—( Hear. )—The House of Com mons ought to send every measure up to the House of .Lords in • the shape which it deemed would be most ad vantageous to the interests of those whom it represented: it was for the House sof Lords to suggest any amendments which it deemed expedient upon such a measure ; and then it was for the House of Commons to decide whether they useuld deviate from the strict line .on which they had first proceeded, in order to pass a particular measure, ratlike than none at all, upon any particular subject. That,The apprehended, was the constitutional course for the House of Commons to adopt, and that was the course which he himself intended to pursue upon the present occasion. Without entering into the detail of the points in Which the resolutions of this year differ from those of the last, he would proceed to hazard one or two remarks on the principle upon, which the Bill professed to be founded. There were many Gentlemen, both in the House and out of the House, who were of opinion that it would be more 'for the , interest of the agriculturist that there should be . one . price fixed under Which foreign coin should always ,he . the .agriculturist should take the advantage of good . and bad times, like dealers in every other kind of produce,.and that he should only be subject, to the inconvenience ;of the home-market, Jeavingthat to he corrected by .the foreign market, as oc casion might require. But if he. as not entirely mistaken in the view . which .he had taken of this subject, the great point in it was. to secure the corn market from all excessive fluctuations, and that was the very point in which the pre sent Bill was, notoriously deficient.—(Hear, hear.) He was sorry to . use, such a word, for he. had a, great respect for the Right Hon. Gentlemen wholiad framed this Bill— he was sorry, he said to use such a word, but he must, ne vertheless, designate this Bill by the-title of a disingenuous Bill,, He meet say, that when it was held out tolhe agri cultural interest . as a premium on the .Rill which:had been proposed last year, it was the most palpable fallaq'ever at tempted 'to, be palmed upon a. House of. Commons:-- (Hear, hear.) True it was, that at .a certain price it af forded greater protection to the agriculturalinterest ; but it was exactly at that price to which corn bad never arrived in the last year, and to which lie did .not expect that it would ever arrive again, He was desirous , that corn should be had at a low rate; but he was stillsnore desirous that it should be had at a fixed and definite rate, and thatirshould not be exposed to those rapid fluctuations which were equally ruinous to the consumer and the producer.--= (Hear.) Up to 585., there was lees protection for the agricultural interest under the Bill of this year, than there was under the Bill of last ; and so far it was favourable to those who stickled for low prices, The great fault, how ever, of the present Bill was, that you had prohibition when you did not want it, and protection when you needed it least; for it gave you protection under high, and with drew it under low prices,—(Hear, hear.) The Bill of last year .. eppeared to him to proceed upon a con sistent and intelligible principle ; the Bill of thi s year proceeded on no other than an ad captandum principle, seeking to conciliate one side by the offer of low, and the other by the offer of high 'prices, and making them both liable to the danger of fluc tuating prices. —(Hear, hear.)—On these principles, without entering further into the details of the measures for which he owned his incompetency, he should feel it to be his duty to support the motion whfch the Hon. Member for Worcester had proclaimed his intention to submit at some future opportunity to the House. If the Hon. Mem ber should bring it forward as an amendment on the pre sent Bill, he should certainly support those resolutions which Mr, Panning had proposed in the last Session of Parliament, and which were then carried almost, he might say, by acclareatien.-4lmmense cries of " Hear," and " No," from different parts of the House.)--,-He Would as sert that the resolutions of Mr. Canning were carried by'a large, he might even say an overwhelming majority .of the [louse of Commons. The sense of the House of Commons was expressed most 'decidedly in favour if Mr. Canning's Bill. He had as yet heard of no just ground for departing from it. • It was considered to be founded on a clear and intelligible principle, on which, though it might not be sa tisfactory in every respect to all parties, all parties could at least meet without collision. There were not, however, any two parties wbo could meet on this Bill, and say that there was .a price settled in it, in the propriety of which they both coecereed..,,(flear.),-The Hon. Member for Dorsetshire had expressed his desire to support the Bill of last year, as far as it extended to the low scale of He (Mr. Stanley) hoped that the agricultural interest would agree with the view which liceand his friends had taken. of this part of the question, and would consent to ad. mit both the ascending and descending scale of duties fixed by Mr. Canning.- , --(Hear, hear.) Sir E. KNATCHBULL, felt it necessary to offer a few words to the House, in consequence of what had Niels from the Hon. MeMber NVIIO hdd just sat down. He had heard many of his observation with surprise ; but nothing astounded him more than the Hon. Member's assertion, — or, perhaps, he should rather say insinuation,—that there had been a compromise of principle upon, this subject among the members of the Cabinet. He had no knowledge that one part of the Cabinet had made concessions to the other-L-he could not imagine that any such concessions had been made. There was also another point in the Hon.* Member's speech, which he hail likewise heard for the first time that evening. The Hon. Member had said that OA measure was brought forward by the Government in its present shape, in erder to ensure its success in the other House of Parliament. He could not believe that the Go vernment would compromise its principles to conciliate either House of Parliament.' Mr. STANLEY said that such a statement had been made by the President `of the Board of Trade, in proposing the present- resolutions to the House. Sir E. KNATCHBULL was not present when the reso lutions were proposed: and: therefore had nor heard - the epee .11 of Right Hon. Gentleman. As the Right Hon. Gentleman had made such a statement, he would join in bestoWing the same reprobation upop it which it had already received from the Hon. Member for Preston. ' Another point in the sneech of the Hon. Member for Preston, to which he feltildinielf called 'upon to refer,' was, the mode in which he said that the awn Bill of l a st Session was carried. Ile had heard with th'e'utirioSt asionisbnient the peert'on, that the Bill w as carried in the HOuse of Connrions i!ty LK demotion. Din the lion. Members who cheered that assertion recollect that the Hon. Member for Dorsetshire proposed last year an amendment similar to the present Re solutions, and that it was 'Supported by no less than 170 Members ?--(Hear:) He contended, that had it not been for tli , monstrous 11 d unnatural coelition which then took' place;* theinajOrity would have been the other Way; and therefore it was that he was so much surprised at hearing that the measure of last year had met with nddisapproba don. He would ask , Gentlemen to recollect what had been the effect of it cut of doors. Fo r his own part, he had never Inerraily person, connected, with the agricultural interest who hid e'l.:nressed 'a 'Wish tti iiippOrt it.' He belii;Ved that: his Majesty'i "Ministers were felly jUitifieti in retaking the addition which they bad dcinp to the scale cif duties,--,(l4ear, bear . .) Whet had been the avowed object of, Mr. Canning in legislating as he had done upon this subject? To make the price of corn oscillate in future, such was his own expression 7 -between 555. and 60s. Now, the price of corn (hiring the last year had been only 5 45. ; and it was the knowledgo . of that' fact that led fi4 Sop port adititinna; 'duti es which bad been proposed,must ! how; yeti own tliat there were other points upon which the arguments of the Right Hon. President of the Board of Trade bad carried no conviction to his mind. But was that a reason why he shotild oppose the Speaker's leaving the chair ?. Certainly not. Cie.Olonid not offer any further observations at pre sent to the House . but when it had resolved itself into it COmmittee, he would 'take 'an opportunity of explaining his ideas en that part of the resolutions to which he could not give his support. Mr. FERGUSSON did not see how any Member could object to the Speaker's leaving the chair, unless satisfied with the present state of the Corn Laws. When the Bill of last year was under discussion, he had voted in favour of the proposition made by the Honourable Member for Dorsetshire for fixing the price at 645. ; and he was of opinion that a large majority of the agricultural interest was of opinion,that that price was not toe high for the beginning .of the ascending_ and descending' scale. * He must con fess that if the resolutions now on the table were to be adopted in tot°, he should be reluctant to give them his support; but he would give his support to discuss ing them in Committee, if the price were to be fixed at 625. There was the same duty by the Bill of this year at 66 . 5., as there had beeri .by the Bill of last year at62B:-..... That being the case, he was willing to adopt the resolutiltui which fixed the price at the same point as that at which the Honourable- Member for Dorsetshire had fix e d it by hi s amendment oflast Session ; but he should object to theM when, that part of . them came under consideration which took away protection when it was most wanted, and- in flicted prohibition when qnite unnecessary. With respect to the other questions incidentally touched on in the course of the. discussion, he would observe that •if the averages 1 were to be struck from the price of corn in- the three kingdoms, he should certainly object to such a proceed.: ing. He must also express his disapprobation 'of ,the measure which ,Gov e r nmen t had declared its intention to adopt with respect to barley and oats.--(Cries of " Question," which drowned the remainder of the Hon. Member's obsetvations.) Mr. PEEL objected to the continuance of this disci's s:on, because he could not see what useful end it could answer.—(Hear, .hear.)--Why should Gentlemen object with suet; 'pertinacity to the Speaker's leaving, the chair ? The resolutions proposed by the Honourable Members for Bridgenorth and for Aberdeen had not .yet been re ' ported to the House, and the only place in which they Could be proposed was the Committee. The single ground on which the Hon.iember opposite objected to the Speaker's leaving the Chair, *as, that he intended to propose for the acceptance of the House the resolutions which it approved last year: Now, besides those resolutions, there were others which Hon. Gentlemen severally thought deserving of consideration. Why then should they not go at once into the Committee, and submit them to a regular and sa tisfactory disscussiOn? Tic, knew that, abstractedly speak ing; it was wrong to raise any speculation upon the even tual opinion of the other Muse of Parliament,—it was so undoubtedly, as to a question of privilege, where the two branches of the legislature might be Said to exercise a jea lous and independent control ; but the case was different when they came to consider a measure involving the gene ral rights and interests of the country, amitwhere un doubtedly an adherence to the separate opinions expressed by each would induce one branch to adhere to the price of 60,1., and the other to cling the opinin which it sad already declared.—lt was right, however, to reconcile in matters of business conflicting opinions,' when it could be done with consistency ; and this practical 'course had been followed on the present' occasion, when a measure was introduced which, under all the circum stances of the case, lie thought was perfectly fair for all parties. The chief recommendation of last year's measure' was, that it regulated a limited supply, and operated upon 600,000 quarters of corn then ,in the warehou ses . The experiment had so far suceeded, and he had no doubt that in the progress of the present scale, general satisfac ' tion would equally mark its effect upon the community at large. The better way to have a fair understanding upon the subject would be to go into the Committee : it was past eleven o'clock, and no, further time ought to be lost in considering the real merits of the case. - - Lord ALTHORP had no wish to impede their progress into thCCommittee, where he knew the.discussion upon the clauses could more conveniently take place . At the same time, this preliminary discussion had not been use less,.and it clearly showed him that the Bill of last year was preferable to the present. • Mr. EASTHOPE inquired how this Bill could be deemed conclusive, when the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Grant) who proposed the resolutions, insinuated that the attempt.was an experiment to compromise the respec tive interests, of landlord and tenant. Mr. C. GRANT had never sail that the legislature meant to.temporize on this subject. They wished, on the contrary, to make a permanent arrangement, as far as the opinions and interests of the- parties ena.bled them to proceed. After a few words from Mr. Duxcomnr, the /louse resolved itself into a Committee upon the - Tesolutio us re specting the Corn Laws. On the question being put by the CHAIRMAN upon Mr. C. Grant's scale of duties, Mr. HEATHCOTE rose and said, that as it was his anxious wish to see the proposed scale lowered, he wished the Committee . to report progress, and come to the debate at an earlier hour of the evening,—it was now near mid night, Mr. HUSKISSON thought, that after the preliminary discussion which had taken place, and the three weeks' notice already given, the bulk of the Qunmittee were pre pared to discuss the question without further delay, though the Hen. Member might not be in a similar condition. So serious a subject ought therefore to be proceeded upon without further loss of time.—(Hear.) Mr. HEATHCOTE admitted the subject to.be serious, but when he looked at the clock, he did not think the House could reasonably entertain it with the deliberation it required.—(Cry of " . Go on.") . .Mr. HOBHOUSE really thought, that before they went on, the Government were bound to show how they could, reconcile the present measure with that which Mr. Can. ning had last year introduced. .Mr. CALCRAFT was ready to go into the discussion, even though the hour was so late ; at the same time he must regret the way in which they had spent three or four hoUrs of the earlier part of the evening. He thought it was incumbent upon the Government to explain why they had departed from their resolutions of the last year. For the purpose of Wringing the, two scales of duty into fair and f u ll consideration, he would introduce, in the shape'of an amendment' to the Fesent motion, the rates fixed in the proceeding.of laat year. The Hon. Member then moved as an amendment the adoption of Mr. Canning's scale of resolutions of the last year. Mr. ROBINSON seconded the amendment. 11Ir. .1. BENpTT was placed in rather a difficult situa tion at ~this moment. While he preferred the Bill of last year to the awkward measure of . this year, which conferred protection where it was not wanted, and gave no protec tion where it was required, he Was of opinion that the Bill of last Session stood in need of some amendment, and it was his ( Mr. Benett's) intention to propose an amendment of it. Should he, however, now vote for the motion of the Honourable Member for Wareham, he should in fact be voting against his own proposition.—(Cries of " No, no,') hilt were understood that he should be at liberty hereafter to propose the, amendment of which he had spoken, he should in ,that case support the pro position of the Honourable Member for Wareham. - it was asserted that this was a.a.casure which would prove palatable to all interests in the- empire. • The truth was, the measure was not . os_ yet understood in the country. If a little. more, time were given, perhaps then it might h e come intelligible. The difference between the s ca l e o f t h e .: measure of last year and that of this year appeared when corn was at.64s. frnm s,ils. to 645. there was no differ better calculated to pm. ence, but after ,64.5. the ascending scale of duty was higher in the present measure than in that proposed last Session. The Bill of last year was far preferable as a protection to upon the agricultural interests to the present measure. At a "future opportunity he would propose an amendment of that Right Hcm.. Oemlernan opposite (Mr. t ß ec il t i4 th ‘A p ' Scr gAzkimLlTis inquired what were the grounds fluskissbn) adopted the present measure, in preference to that which he had supported and recommended in the last Session? - . - - Which-would rilerndtehritc:‘ltiniltry, Mr. 11USKISSON said,, his Maj es t y ' s Mi n i sters b a d been placed in rather a difficult diltnA ao.4l this °eras i on . No sooner had the tipp.se fctnied itself into a Committee and tile Chairman taken his place, .than.up got an Hon. Member, who moved :hat they should report progress, and ask leave to sit again. That certainly was not the way to discuss this measure. Seeing that several Gentlemen, op,• posite had propositions to make N.*conanaitte'e; lie (Mr. Huskiss9) Ivan anxious to ppltOolio.what he had to say until heitadheard the Y4ii9Rs. objections of those Hon. NentherswhO, by. the w h y, seemed each to take a different view of the question... The Hon. Member for Wareham, following ,that consistent and open course which he - usually adopted, had already moved an amendment upon the resoL . lutions .proposed to the House. Th.:: Hon. lgeniber for 'Wiltshire. had stated hie 4..tention to poPo4e itn'imendrnent upon the resolutions', el' laat' year.' 'Unties; these circwn, . . stances; 'he 'Huskisson) eafioui objections .which tientlomen had to urge to th e ' re-' solntions before Sim committee, . before h e (Mr. HuskissonY should state his reasons for supporting . th em . , Howeve • as he: had been thus called upon by the. 1d0,p 0 . 4/ ..0 the debate to state Baronet, .he was perfectly readY a t this sta6 of he Should advert to one 'observation which had fallen from' the' 'HOnourable I\lember for Wareham. 'That Honoprabje Member lied stated that, by the present sure, the pivot is the scale of duty had been changed from ficis. to 645., and this he objected to as a great change from the measure of last year. He (Mr. Huskisson) would maintain that the pivot had not been changed at all in the present measure. If he understood what lie meant j rerovhwa, Bi"floeosir°: ti6lidhesr, the tai,l by the pivot, it was that point in the scale at which on one side the duty ascended, and. on the other descended---i t , wasthe level where the ascending and descending duties met. The pivot in the Bill last year was fixed a t 60s. the Winchester, and 625. the imperial measure. In the pr e' ~ sent Bill, the s ame l eve l was ta k en, and at 625. the imper ial i and at 60s. the Winchester measure-the scale aseende° on the one side,, a n d d escen d e d en the other. The differ ' once between the two Bills arose . not as to the pivot fixed upon as affording a sufficient protection to British evict'' - , tore, bYthe imposition of a certain duty when th e price of corn ascended above , that point, and diminishing die duty when the price fell below it ; the-point agreed t o last year by Parliament as affording a sufficient protection to I British . agriculture, was still preserved, but the question now was, whether the scale which bed been last Yea r adapted' to that point afforded a sufficient protection. '. In the statement made by his (Mr. Huskisson's) lamentel Friend last year, he wished, to give an efficient' pritectigo .. , to the British corn grower up t o 60 s . t h e Winchester, On . 625. the imperial measure. With that view, his lamented Friend prepared' 'a scale of duties, which remained SW tionary between 60s. and 64a, the Winchester measure , and 625. and 665. the imperial measure, and which were increased or di m i n i s h e d as t h e pr i ce of corn rose or fel l above this standard.. The scale then proposed was censhierf" adequate for the purpose. The question now before the House was not to change the price at which that scale was fixed, but -whether the protection thereby afforded a sufficient protec tion to the British corn-grower. In deciding that question , , they should look at what h a pp ene d s i nce t h e B i ll of lo I t year. They would find that a quantity of corn, amount' I ing to 500,000 quarters, had been admitted into the mar' ket. Without adverting even to the circumstances 'unde r which this core. had been admitted; whea they found thag such a quantity as' 500,000 quarters had been admitted in one.month, it must appear evident to them that the scale, of duties proposed i n th e Bill o f l ast year did not afforo a sufficient protection to the agricultural. interest s' s-in filet , that protection which was contemplated by the Bill of.lo, Canning on the l as t occas i on when his (Mr. Hual t issou'N lamented friend addressed the House upon this subject PI Session, the last time, he believed, that his voice was heard there, where it had been always heard with so m u ch re spect. On that occasion, when introducing the,tempolol Bill; after the intended pe rmanen t measure had been Virall out in the other House of Parliainent, he distinctly statP that it was a measure to be tried by the fest of experieuga" and that in the . next Session they;WO u ld b e . ensisled4 9 , judge, from the working Of it, whether it was ca l cu letaa to afford the desired protection .to theigriculturel in' terest. To' the duties imposed by that Bill he (Mr. • Huskisson) would apply the test of experience, and if lit found that the importation of foreign corn was pot.suffici 9 ently . cheeked by them, he was at liberty to support a urea" sure which went to alter that scale of duties.- , --(Hear go' He acted upon , the sug ges ti on , o f hi s ' Ri g h t H on. a, laMented Friend, and taking experience as his guide, he felt himself bound to su pp or t an amen d ment o f the Bald last Session. The principle Of . Lord Liverpool and do t laid down by his. Right Hon. Friend last Session was, tha t up to 60s. there should .he a sufficient protection ; toe British corn-grower--that 'bet ween . fiO s . and 454,,g*5.. Winchester measure, foreign- corn ought to be admitted The principle, then, with regard to the scale of duties, w$ so to arrange it that a sufficient check should, be impost' upon the importation of foreign corn, until the price of c oot rose to 60s. per Winchester measure ; that between 60'f and 655. its importation should be allowed, but subject to such a check as would prevent it from coming in s uch quantities as to materially affect the market; and whet' the price rose to 655., the object of the plan was to iv* pose duties sufficient to prevent foreign corn from being imported in overwhelming quantities. Now, on re", ferring to what occurred last year, they would fiat that 500,000 quarters of wheat were in werehotlf when the Bill of last Session passed. .In consequeof e of an early and au abundant harveit; the pric e of Corn fell ; and this so affected bonders of foreign Coo* that they were anxious to pay the .dtity:,then, lest theY should have still a higher duty to pay. _ Accordingly, th e , quantity of fiireign Corn which he had.already mentionea was taken out of bond ; and it was evident that, under .t 0 Bill of laSt Session; a similar influx of foreign Corn might oecur, so as td oppress the British corn-grower. The orio object, then, 'of the Government was to remedy that defog in the Bill of last year, and to afford a sufficient protection when the price of Corn was from 60s. to 65,„ That object, they conceived, would be effected by adding 4s. i n the duty proposed last year when the price of Corn should be at 62n. Other corresponding changes had been tas t e in the ascending and descending scale of duties, which 6 r peered to them as calculated to remedy the defects of th e , Bill of last year. The Hee. Wernher Set Wareham s eesaaa to think that the duties did not afford sufficient protection. when the price of Corn was low, but he (Mr. Huskisson) could not help expressing his surprise that the Hon. Member for Preston should characterise the conduct of 0 0 GovernMent on this subject as ditingenuouS. The BO Member had advanced the chuge upon the ground that the proposed resolutions did not eliforAprotection where it-We wanted, but where it was, not' wanted,-namely, when tht priees of Corn Were high. , • Mr. STANLEY-I meant as compared with the Bill of last year. ' . Mr. HUSKISSON would beg the lion. Member's attention fora mement. The duties when corn was be' tween 58s. and 595. Were as high as intended in the last Bill. Mr. STANLEY' said the Hon. Member had selected the nearest 'point of approximation between the two Bills. Mr: HUSKISSON said that when corn was be' tween 58s. and 595. the protecting price, on foreign ear* was equal to a- prohibitory duty. When corn was 58s• and up to 595., the intended duty would amount to 28s. Bd. Did the Hon. Member imagine that foreign coin would be imported under that duty when corn was at 58s. ? fie (Mr. Huskisson) would be glad t o k now f rom w h at part of the world it would come. Notwithstanding the cir cumstances which, during the last year, tended to encistk* rage the importation. of foreign corn, yet when the erica was at 585., the duty under the Bill 9f last Session pre vented, though it did not altogether exclude, the import s ' 1 tion of foreign corn. Notwithstanding the fell in the price of corn, and the alarm thus created i n th e m i n ds of the holders of foreign corn, when the duty was at 28s. Bd., wbat was thefearful quantity of foreign corn ' taken out 'of bond ? 277 quarters only ; when the duty waa at 305., 426 quarters were taken out; when at 325., / 06 quarters were taken out; when at 341. 101 quarters; when at 365., 53 quarters ; at 385., 61 quarters were taken out; and when the duty was at 40.1., four quarters were taken out in one week, 52 bit another, 20 in. auother, And two iii another, altogether about 1,000, eoarters were taken out during an entire (porter of a-year., A great portion of these dribblings--for such a ,trifling quantity , deserved such' aq epithet-was ordered to be sold out bY the forei gn merc h an t s even at a loss; as it would not pay for the rent of the warehouses. It was plain, then, that' the duty of 28s. Bd., when corn was from 59.9. to, 59 1 0.,. amounted nearly to' a prohibition duty. Last autumns indeed, when' the holders of foreign corn became alarmed , by the fall in price, about 500,000 quarters were : taken- Government had, therefore, made out from the experience of last - year,-from the repcirta received from. /wig' countries, and from the exidence takea, before the kJ olio° of Lords, that, by the imposition Qf a duty of 283. Stir when corn was at 585.; there was no risk of Ally t itia n. tity of foreign corn being imported into this country. At should he recollected that the, importer of foreign ergu would, in addition to' that duty, have to defray the krie;' , for which the corn was bought, the price of freiglA and' . warehousing, and various other chArges. Wfore he could most open market on til4 rotitieeat was that of Rotterdam. it..-- , (Hear.)-The freest and Oerraany by canal navigation, and I re t c r k eee cin h u ,ea pon th a: 4 7 N r:fi o : upon , that of the tiortfi of Europe by steam navigation. Now it i i 44 V e R nA a scertained, from a comparison of the prices. 04. ' corn there during the last seven years, that. 28s, 841.. dtktY , when corn here wai.at 5 8s„ wood ~,,T. , ) , .d,,,,,,,d,0 at e :pro tection to the British corn-grower. He (Mr. Huskisson) hail applied the.t•tt 9.f. experience to the two scales, that of last year n.d. Vle, pres ent one, ' an d h e preferred • that bow i „. (mo ed. 'The scale under the present Bill watt,calculatea to ;W or d a better protection to the agricultntist. ' Though he, as well as others, had agreed to the measure of last years h e could not think i t a safe one to, continue, as it 11 4,( 7 1 . ° 4° proved adequat e f or t h e i ntended, object. ge reyeatsd, that he supported the ; evnt Bill, becauai it woukl of a more ffi ecient Fetectien. When th e p r i ce o f corn was f rom 60 4 . - to 655., under th e proppeed duty, the i m p or t a tion of . Oreig,n Corn would he checked. ' When the price. as oboe> Os.'the corn from our colonies would come in free ;. " it when the prices were higher, the duties would operate to prevent the importation of an overwhelming quantity of foreign coma, The Hotutor,*e. Gentleman opposite had *spoken in : favonr of e Axed duty. Abstractedly, *bat might lO.O. . well enough ; but when they leg easha the circornstances of the country and th e : wan t s °lt ihe people,: they would see the imposaility of adopting: such a principle. If a high fixed permanent duty woo' Unpaged, then, in periods of scarcity, the poor would be exposed to sufferings and miseries, the iniiiction of whic h no claims for protection on the part of the home corn" . grower could ever justify.-(llear.)--_,F,or the advantage* , then, which the grower foregoes when corn is high, by the admission of foreign grain, lie receives compensatioi s by the imposition of a high rate of duties when corn Js at a low price. He receives in fact only that remune ration to which he is justly entitled. When legislating t h " Ti dr a w' ou c:r aft ,. and Tha AI, • rp p , ll r 4 ' l 41 rs o prc th e h_ ' Th 4,4,41", ", tAlli 'renc ite :ij ' e jtlet t •\tan.f,l,44l] The ti at N til e dir e tio t j we asth i k3iN nv, . s- g., qr Loi n , la pr obe n ei of d hl lt ha e thr the peYrm°l in whose ow e, Jut v it Viie b e , c are mi .- 1 " " `h"Y at