The Sun. — London, England, 1841-09-21 00:00:00

EVENING SUN THE. NEW FRENCH LOAN. The substance of the following regulations for con tracting the new French loan appeared in our Afternoon Edition of yesterday ; but as the bulk of our monetary and commercial readers may be expected to take more than ordinary interest in so important a financial mea sure, we publish at length the _Decree of the Finance Minister. In- choosing the present time for issuing this loan, there can be no doubt that the French Govern ment is eager to manifest to the world how little its credit is impaired by the attempt upon the life of the Royal Princes, and the emeutes against - the census in different parts of France. DECREE OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE. Art. 1. On Monday October 18, 1841, at noon pr..ci3ely, there shall be proceeded with at the Ministry. of Finance in public sitting, the sale and adjudication under sealed tender, in of e lot, to the highest bidder, of the amount of Three per Cent. Rentes, which will produce at the price of adjudication a capital of 1 50,000,000 f. Art. 2. Tie Rentes adjudged shall be inscribed with in terest on the 22d June, 1841. . Art. 3. The payment of the 150,000,000 shall be affected at the periods and in the proportions following : On the 2Sth October, 1841... 7,500,000 28th November 7th January, 1842 , . 7th February 7th March 7th A pril 7th May 15,000,000 7th June 7th July 7th August 15,000,000 7th September 7th October 150,1)00,000 Art. 4. On the day fixed for the reception of the tenders, the Minister shall open the sitting by depositing on the bureau a sealed packet enclosing the declaration signed by himself, , eentaining the minimum of the price at which he willconsent to the sale and adjudication of the Rentes which are to represent the 15 0,000,000 of Rentes. This declaration shall not be rp en ed but in the tevent of any tender reaching the minimum fixed by the Minister. Art. b. The tenders shall be received, sealed, from thehands of the p art i es tendering, numerically arranged on the bureau, t ° be Opened in their presence publicly and in open sitting. Art.,6. Every tender to be available must be drawn out `agreeable to the models delivered, and accompanied by a re 'eiPt from the Caisse de Depots et Consignation of a deposit of 4ulr antee, and,which is to be produced with the tender. Tlio Price offered must be expressed in francs and centimes, with out any stipulation of any eventual condition. Art. 7. The deposit of guarantee of each tender cannot be beiow 5,000,000. This sum may be either in cash or in inscriptions of Three per Cent. Rentes, calculuted at 75, and in Four, Four-and-a.. 101 4 f, and Five per Cent. Rentes at par, in Treasury Bonds, or in shares of canals, proceeding from a loan guaranteed by the State. Such of these which shall be nominal or to order, should be transferred to the Caissit de Depots. Those deposits for guarantee lodged by those whose tenders . are not accepted shall be returned within 24 hours after the adjudication. Art. 8. The reception of tenders being terminated, the Minister of Finance shall proceed to the ol ening of the said tenders according to their numbers, and shall read them publicly. .Art. 9. The adjudication of the loan shall be made to the Company who shall have offered the highest price: of Rent.es to furnish by the Public Treasury, and in default of validity, to the highest tender in order of price under the reservation stated in art. 4. The Minister of Finance shall pronounce his decision pub .licly, and shall be the sole judge of the validity of the tenders. _ Art. 10. In case the highest price shall be offered by two or more Companies tendering, if these Companies do not agree , to join together, the bidding shall be again opened amongst themselves, either publicly or by sealed tenders, if one of the party demand that mode. Art. 11. Within the five days of the adjudication, the Com pany declared to be the contractors should carry up their de. posit of goaratitee to the amount of 15,000,000. This gua rantee may be realised according to the conditions stipulated in art. 7. If the deposit is not completed at the expiration of this delay, the Company contracting will incur the de cheance of all right, with the forfeiture of the first deposit of 5,000,000, whirls will accrue to the Treasury under title of indemnity. The deposit of 15,000,000 shall not be obligatory if the Company within the delay of fire days make good the payment of the two first instalments of the loan. The discount shall be bonified to them at the rate of 4 per cent. per annum, for the tim e to run, from the day of payment until the falling due of each of the instalments. Art. 12. After the payment of the two first instalments by the contracting Company, there shall be delivered to them, by the Treasury, certificates, stating the said payments. Art. 13. The responsibility stipulated in the tender shall cease after the payment of the two first instalments of the loan ; the amount of those two instalments to be teserved for the ulterior guarantee of the Treasury. Art. 14. In case of delay of the payment of an instalment, 'thq debtor shall be liable to the Treasury for the interest at the rate of 5 per cent. per annum, calculating from the fifth day after the instalment falls due, without any other preliminary notice being necessary. In default of the payment of an instalment due, within a month from the date of its becoming due, the amount of the certificate shall be recoverable in full, and the Minister of Finance may effect the sale of it for the profit of the Treasury with due concurrence. Art. 15. Every payment ment made into the central caisse of the Treasury, in order to be available, must be stated by a receipt from the central cashier, signed by the comptroller, or by a receipt detached from the coupon and also signed by the comptroller of the caisse. Done at Paris, this 18th Sept. 1841. The Minister Secretary of State of the Finance, II UMANN. ' HAMBURGH MAIL. FRANKFORT, SEPT. 10.—We hear that Prince Met ternich will not remain on the Rhine beyond the 20th Of this month, and will, perhaps, set out earlier, on his return to Vienna, by way of Carlsruhe, Stuttgardt, &e. The Prince wiil make a short stay in the several capitals. VIENNA, SEPT. 9.—Last week a trial was made to convey troops by the railway-800 Chasseurs, with arms and baggage, in 33 waggons, drawn by a single engine, were conveyed in eight hours from Ilradisch to Brunn, a distance of seven or eight days' march, so that the battalion travelled by the railway as much as a day's march in an hour.—Hamburgh Papers, Sept. 17. WARSAW, SEPT. 10.—His Majesty the Emperor ar rived, the day before yesterday, from St. Petersburgh, at Modlin, and was received by the military and civil autho rities and the clergy. Yesterday afternoon his Majesty arrived here amidst the ringing of the bells and the ac clamations of the inhabitants, and alighted at the Lu zienki Ralace. The city was brilliantly illuminated in the evening. The Emperor, on his way to Warsaw, reviewed, on the 4th of this month, the troops of the second corps of infantry, assembled near Kowno. BELGIAN I. UNDS—Baussate, SEPT. lb. Actual Debt 236 per Cent. Rothschild's Loan, 5 per Cent lOl% Loan of Thirty Millions, 4 per Cent. 93 3per Cent. ..---..Thirty.scven---- 7144 -------__0340) lOll4 Loan of City, 1'::12,4 per Cent 9oy6 Socletyof Corninprce, 4 4per Cent 9 3q Bank of Belgium, 5 per Cent............ :3% NationalSeciety. Exchange on London (shot t) —Brussels Papers, Sept. 18. AUSTRIAN FUNDS.—VIENNA, SEPT. 11 fiveper Cents. Metalliques Foist per Cents. 9B Three par Cents. .. ...... .... ................... Bank shares --Allgemeine Zeitung, Sevt. 15 HAMBURG BORSENHALLE, SErr, 17, Bills. Moiey Austrian 5 per Cents. Bank Shares Anglo-Russian Loan Rhli 10iN, Russian 5 per Cent. Ist series, Certificate Inscription, Ist Se:iras lOll4 1014 Russian 5 per Cent. Hope and Co. 3d and 4th Series Ditto in Certificates New 4 per Cent. (1840) E 6 I4 1,6 Dutch Actual Debt, 2)4 per Cent tOX 1:0% Ditto 5 per Cent — Polish Bond: )59% Anglo-Danish Loan, 3 per Cent 754; % 7:Ai Norwegian Loan, 1834, 4 per Celt' 112% 102 Spanish, New 5 per C en t s. l6 EXCHANGES ON LONDON. HAMBURG, SEPT. 17.--13 s%.—Two months. IS 4 RERUN, SEPT, 14.—Three months. 6. 18% Mont'. PETERsRUKWI, SEPT. 10. —Two months, :38 , A pence RIGA, SEPT. I. -Three Months, 3945. STOCKHOLM. Seer. :O.—Seventy-five days, 12, U. VIENNA, SEPT. I , . —Three months. 9. di. PRUSSIAN FUN DS.—BERLIN, SEPT. 14. St. Schuh!. S c h ., 4 Bills Money. ~, per cent. 1 ,1% .0-t!,', Prussian English Loan, ISM, 4 per cent 101 101% ii; xclla n g e on Lond on, three months 6 IS% I 1:..% —PreissialuStale Gazelle. Sept. 15 COURT CIRCULAR. WINDSOR, MONDAY.—The Queen and Prince Albert took their usual walking exercise this forenoon. In i3 the afternoon, Prince Albert, attended by Sir Edward o- 1 water and Mr. George Edward Anson, rode out on horseback. Soon after her Majesty drove f rom the mtstle in a p on ey phreton, attended by Lady P or t man in a second carr i age w i t h Vi scoun t Syd ne y, an d _Admiral Sir R o b ert Otway and Colonel Wemyss on horseback. The Princess Royal has . been taking her usual airing to .d ay. thehe Earl and Countes s R oss i } n arr i ve d on a v i s it to weer. ehe Rev. Lord W. Russell took his departure from Castle to-day. of l le Right lion. Sir W. Fremantle, Major Maclean, 72 d Highland e r s , a nd M r . G. E. Anson, w i ll have the "the our of joining the Royal dinner circle this evening. 72d Highlanders had a grand field-day this morn sg,il i r ' n th e Li tt l e Park. • le Attorney-General and the Solicitor-General hfiti at Ilit4rview with Sir Robert Peel yesterday afternoon A t s official residence in Downing -street. Sj . ,` L ' v * reputation from the British . and Foreign And y,' st _ e rY Society had an interview with the Earl of Ripon a irday at the office of the Board of Trade to present G teinorial. The Deputation consisted of William Allen, K o b el, ' Alex an d er , H . S terry, S . A ll en, S.. H. Lucas, o, iZge Stalt FLucas , rster, John Beaumont, John S co bl e, and rcey. Si r 'le Lord Mayor p a id a v i s i t yesterday rnornin; to l tobeet Peel. 1,174TAL ACCIDENT AT T. KATHARINE'S 0', 14 1 4". --On Saturday night, between e7even awl twelve I L L' i c, , boy aced tifteen years, named David Price, who : Peen for so ' ine r ; line past in the habit of waiting upon the Volilft connected with the Leith steam-ships at St. Kaharine's, ik 7 k '".R4 tywa the Royal Victoria, which arrived the . sa h m: ing, arid ... f t.i lying alongside the steam-wharf, with I,,ndla of dean line d emained on board some time. cW I • . oi, art r NIZI eh e was below Mr. Adams, the agent of the Company, ,h 0 is gener all y th e last on board the Leith steam-ships, " ',aturday night left the vessel, and a man named Ferguson, " n l'lnyed on the wharf, suppn.in g no other person was corning '''' 'e, unloosened the upper laThinets of the long gangway hoard and ladder. vOlich was in a sloping posi•i++n from the Wharf to the ship, and was preparing to 'hoist it up by means :, f Out crane when the boy Pri,e made his appearance, stepped tl ; e il l ' a e ' , ward, and was preparin g to ascend it, not bein aviare shisags were cast off At that moment. the ves sel fi sheered out, the Loard fell, and Price was precipitated into the water, bet ween the vessel and the wharf, and, though immediate as ''statice was at after he arils.wned. His body was recovered abutzt half an hour SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS. FROM THE DAILY PAPERS OF YESTERDAY. GLOBE.—It is not often that the Prime Minister of England has condescended to practise what is commonly called a hoax ; and though we have heard it alleged that some fiscal impositions, such as those upon attorneys and pigtails, originated in a jest, yet the fact of those taxes having been first conceived in joke—rather a serious one, by the bye, for the victims who had to pay them—was • not allowed to transpire openly beyond the walls of the Cabinet. To tax the limbs of the law was a merry con ceit, no doubt, in which, on account of existing preju dices, the public would fully sympathise ; whilst the duty on tails, which led to the practice of cur-tailing in stead of pig-tailing the heads of the rising generation, was at least a legitimate subject for a laugh ;. but the joke played off by Sir Robert Peel, mocking, as it does, the expectations and hopes of the people, is doomed, we suspect, to be very ill taken by the whole community. We will, however, explain the nature and subject of the Premier's wit, and then leave the public to judge how far it has been well-timed, and what amount of taste has been displayed in choosing a subject for its exercise. The re-assembling of Parliament on Thursday had :been looked fbrward to with the greatest anxiety by the whole nation, plunged at this moment in more than ordinary;dis tress, as the day on which there might be expected from Sir R. Peel some annonneement of the measures he in tended to propese for the alleviation of those evils that he professes to have the skill as well as the will to remedy. Instead, however, of suggesting even a temporary measure of relief for the people's sufferings, the new Minister conies forward in his place in Parliament, to talk only about " warming and ventilating the House," and "granting leases of a portion of the kitchen-garden at Kensington." That these are subjects on which Sir R. Peel - may have had an opinion to give is true enough ; but when we find that on the first day of meeting Par liament as a Minister, he begins his speech with " Doctor Reid, and the warm •air stoves," concluding with the " Kensington kitchen-ground," and inPntiorang inciden tally that he shall ask for six months' supplies, the whole affair wears the appearance of a monstrous hoax, following as it does immediately on his repeated assu rances that " when called in," p lvould declare, the plans he had formed for the country's benefit, May tell us, perhaps, that the Ministers can do nothing till they: are " warm in their places," and that Dr. Reid and his hot-air apparatus are consequently pi eliminary requisites to the legislation of the new Cabinet, winks the poor are shivering through the winter in their cotnfortlesa hovels, may not the position of Sir Robert Peel, with all his adaptation of temperature both high and low—his blowing warm and f 4,44 with the same breath—may not his position, we say, in spite of every artifice, become a little too hot for him ? We are now bluntly told that we are to expect nothing from the Tory Government until February next. As to the distress, that IS to be left to die away ; and if some of the people, in the course of a gevereiy men - .sholihrliaprie n to die away too, there is to be no help fOr it. t'}g4,j4 t a Nero was fiddling away while Rome was in flames. Sir Robert Peel proposes also " fiddling whole of the ti me eetw4:en this and-Februar a ;, va vi y - the e people are either inflamed into disoketers, or fropri ilt f4 apathy, as the str eng th o f t h e i r pass i ons or the severity of the winter may happen to operate. We suspect, how ever, that &segment so general - as that which now exists, when roused as we fP,IF it Will be, by the inattention of the Government to its prayers, 4'41149 burst into flame than to liybernise into iorpidity, doubt any such incidents are to be deprecated, and, if they occur, must be quelled ; but condemnation would not ha icaS Merited by the policy which should have pro voked .them.• COURIER.—The public meeting held in Mancbpster on Thursday last, the r e p or t o f w hi c h appeare d in the papers of that locality on Saturday, possessed the attrac thin for once of the absence of Mr. Cobden's vague decla mation and montbing coarseness, and of Dr;Bowring's random recollections of foreign 'travel n-t the public cost and statistics travestied, so far at least as the pevs.PngiV Pc these honourable persons, for their places and more spe, cial cast of performances were supplied by two reverend dissenting actors, who scarcely left their absence to ba regretted by such an assembly as could take pleasure in that sort of oratory. The proceedings on -the Occasion were opened by a Mr. Absalom Watkin, of whose speech, disagreeing as we do with the tenor of Its tope:- meat and assertions, we are still disposed to observe that the language is of a higher order, and that it is free from the vices of that foul personal and class vituperation which pervades every display of ltis townsman the Alder man M. P. for Stockport, Mr, Watkin draws mlOOOOOO picture of the general distress in that large manufactur: ing community, the existence and the actual extent of which we are by no means inclined to question, although when he affirms it to be " unprecedented" we must take leave to acquaint him that he - can be but little con versant with the history of bis own locality to be ignorant of the fact, that on more occasions than one Manehognf has been the scene of much more calamitous afflictions, In those periodically recurring visitations to which the manufacturing, as well as the agricultural and every other great national interest, are inevitably subject in the order of things, as the physical world is to stoma and earthquakes, it could scarcely be hoped that Man, chester alone should escape unsheathed. There are dis tricts, however, where the cotton manufacture is carried on, which have suffered infinitely more than that town, even in the worst stages of its misery, of which it is only necessary to consult the Report of the Hand-loom Weavers' Commission for abundant proofs. The condition, some few years since, of Blackburn, Padiham, and other places where common calicoes were chiefly woven , was infinitely more heart-rending and disastrous than can be paralleled in Manchester at the present time, admitting, as we may, the general fidelity even of the lamentable description drawn by Mr. Watkin himself. STANDARD.—But a repeal of the Corn-laws for the distresses of the people (say the Corn4aw agitators) is the only remedy. How ? The stimulus that it would give to trade would set all the mills in motion. We have not belief that such would be the case; but grant that it would fur argument sake, what, as respects this parti cular question, would follow a change otherwise pregnant with a thousand ills ? Would conti nuous employment of men be one jot more secure? Would the repeal of the Corn-laws be more than a meal, from which the mill-owners would rise, as giants refreshed, to build more mills, and to find uses for " more capital which must be employed" in the system of gambling with the lives and happiness of our fellow creatures ? Cover all England with brickwork and machinery, and you only prodigiously augment the mass of evil. Nothing can quality that evil but a full protection to agriculture, and a generous Poor-law, as we have more than once proved. We could say a great deal more of the debate, but we are satisfied that most readers have already drawn their own conclusions ; if Sir Robert Peel has failed to convince them of the propriety of his proposed line, we cannot hope to succeed. Meanwhile the weather and the prospects of the harvest, and the minds of men on the Continent, as well as at home, are working to gether gloriously for the Conservative Minister, so as to render probaby early. in February that which might be difficult in November. SURREY THEATRE. A new grand hippodramatic spectacle was produced at this theatre last evening, under the title of The Battle of Blen heim; or, the Horse of the Disinherited. The drama turns upon the fortunes of a certain Walter Alarchmont (Mr. N. T. Hicks), the younger son of a decayed Hampshire Baronet, who, with he horse Punch, his only fortune, fights his way up to fame vnd wealth at the battle of Blenheim. Of course the horse Punch is the principal character of the piece, and admirably he sustained his part. The docile animal seemed endowed with all but reason. He rushed into the tower of an old manor-house, which was on fire, and rescued a child from the flames, by bringing it out in his mouth. He conveyed despatches, concealed in the hollow of his hoof. He saved his mastor's life many a time and oft • and, what was better still, often rescued his master's lady love from peril ; and, to crown his achievements, the first standard taken from the enemy on the glorious 3d of August, at the battle of Blenheim, was captured by the Horse of the Dis inherited. The scene of this capture is admirably managed. Walter having seized the standard from a French officer, is set upon by four of the enemy, who seek to rescue it. He tears the standard from the staff, his horse takes it in his mouth, and while Walter, who has dismounted, keeps the enemy at bay, the horse carries the standard to the British head-quar ters. The scenery was superb, and the groupings and situa tions were managed with an admirable knowledge of effect. The night bivouac of the allied forces was most excellently ma naged ; and the gradual break of day, discovering a view of the distant country. was perfectly dioramic. The battle scene was also most effective. Cavalry, infantry, and artillery, all were there, and the lovers of desperate combats must have had quite a treat. The last act is almost solely devoted to the cele bration of Marlborough's triumph, on his taking possession of that magnificent d oma i n near Woodstock, with which a na tion's gratitude had rewarded his services ; and advantage is taken of this circumstance to introduce the whole of Ducrow's stud of trained animals in an allegorical procession, got up in honour of the hero. In this procession we have Yoath and Spring mounted on the fairy ponies —Commerce on a zebra, and Peace on a South American lama, The piece was completely successful, and most deservedly so. It is more interesting. in its plot th an t h e generality of spec tacles, and it may challenge the most m agn ifi cent of t h at class of productions to equal it in gorgeous scenery and effective tableaux. It was announ ce d f or repetition every evening a midst loud applause. The scenes in the Circle followed, in which the horse Alfred, from her Majesty's ecur i e , made his first appearance. He is a beautiful cream •colour, and his performances reflect the highest credit on his tutor, Signor Hillier. The house was crammed to suffocation. D ESTRUCT ION OF THE SHIpI, of theNDIA A s los of counts have been received from Rio Janeiro this vessel by fire at sea, on the 19th of July. Th e fire w a mired by a candle falling between two barrel s where some. spirits had been spilled , wh ich were immediatel y m a blaze and . set fire to the store-room which was of canvass and other combustibles. The vessel was soon burnt to the water's edge, and the passengers and crew, to the amount of 214, made their escape in the boats of• the India and those of a French whaler, which came to their assistance. Unfortunately eigh. teen persone perished, of whom sixteen were steerage passen gers, one .a cabin passenger and the boatswain ; the people on hoard the French vessel showed the survivors every attention and conveyed them to Rio Janeiro, a distance of 600 miles. AGED H US$ A NDM E N.-011 Thursday week, three men, whose united ages amounted to 241 yea" were reaping by themselves in a field Clf con which they had engaged to cut for Mr. Wm. brooks, of Foxeote, near Stourbricle, and performed their work in a most satisfao tory mann er . Their names are Richard Norris, aged 83 ; Benjamin Round, 79 ; and George Jones, 79. TVorcesl,r Herald SIR MAYERNE.—Sir T. Mayerne, who got an immense sum by his practice, was once con sulted by a friend, who laid two broa4 pieces of gulci (six and thirties) on tho table, and Sir Theodore put them in his pocket. The friend was hurt at his pocket in; such a fee ; but Sir Theodore said to him, " I made my will this morning, and if it should appear that I had refused a fee I might be deemed non compos." RELIGIOUS STATISTICS.—The number of Baptists in the United States is estimated tobe 4,000,000 ; Methodists, 3,000,000 ; Presbyterians, _9,000,000 ;- Friends, 220,000 ; Roman Catholics, 1,300,000 ; Epis ;:opalians, 1,000,000. ATTEMPT TO ASSASSINATE LORD HOWICK. PARTICULARS OF THE EXAMINATION. The person accused of the outrage is Edward Liddle, and he is, or rather was, the proprietor of a public-house called the Reform Tavern, in Whitburn-street, Monk wearmouth. He'Was a partisan of 11Ir. Wolverly A ttwood, the Tory candidate, during the election, and had acted as leader of .his band of music. The following details of evidence were taken at the Mayor's Chambers on Saturday morning : The prisoner having been placed at the bar, Inspector Bailes, of the Sunderland police, formally charged him with the offence above referred to. John Sedgwick, fruiterer, of the High-street, Bishop wearmouth, sworn, said—l went in the procession before Lord Howick, till I came opposite Dundas street, near Liddle's house, at which blue and white (Mr. Attwood's) colours were displayed. I was in company with the clerk to the .Northern Advertiser, and when we came opposite Liddle's house, I said to my friend, " What a disparity between e flag and the sign !" the latter being "The RgfornillTavern." Liddle was then sitting in his shirt sleey,!'s at his window, smoking, and leaning on his elbow. In the other window on the same floor of the house there were a great many men smoking. When the carriages came opposite Liddle's house, a man came out and waved a bunch of blue arid white ribbons, and said, "Now lads!" After that, Liddle laid down his pipe and took up a gun, an exclaimed, " I'll shoot you, you thief I" or "you rascal !" and either pulled or pretended to pull the trigger ; and I saw either a smoke or a flash, I cannot say which, I was so much agitated at seeing the gun. There was no one near Liddle, and the smoke or flash was not from his pipe, which he had laid clown, Liddle then took in the gun, and did something to the lopk. The gun was again presented, when I was oppo site the first horse of the carriage, on which I cried out' repeatedly, "A gun ! a gun !" The horses then went off at full speed. Liddle presented the gun at the carriage, pulled the trigger again, and then took it in again. When the gun was presented the second time, stones were volleyed from every window of the house, F 4 ,014 the door or front of the house. a quantity of filth was thrown upon the carriages. I then made off, but looking round, r saw something presented from the win dow a third time, like a gun -barrel, or a walking-stick, but I was too far off to say which. By Mr. Backhouse—l heard no report of the gun, nor saw any smoke from the muzzle. Bernard Ogden, Esq., said—l was, ill a gig behind gr. Belj's cordage, which contained Mr. and Mrs.• Bell and Lady Howl& In going up the street I saw a stop page--a row of some sort or other. My servant said, " There is a man holding a gun out of a window !" After the procession moved on, I saw flame and srcel-a like the flash of a gun, and scionetliq; pis7 t ject from the Witifiow likr a gun. I heard no report. I could not identify the man that held the instrument. I saw none of the windows broken as I passed.. . Sir Hedworth Williamson,. Bart., sworn, said—Whet the stoppage took place, T. looked toward Liddle's house, and sat , . some teen starting back as if in alarm. Lady Howick exclaimed, " Oh, there is a man has fired a gun, and there are some white things come out of it." A volley of stones was discharged at the carriage from close . to Liddle's house, one of which struck a man close to the pupinp : flu OAI pulled Lady flowlek down into the bottom of the carriage to protect her, and fell.over her. I went on in the procession to the " Wheatsheaf," but returned to pacify the people, and found the house pretty nearly gutted. The police had pnivv.6, and an active search took Voce for the man, who 1144 4ql kc4e4 grassing a little back lane. He was pursued into a house at the corner of the street, which was beset front and rear. A door was forced open and the house entered ; one of the rooms on the ground floor .was locked. I ueboltv4 lAA "Ft°, 4 Chilit 4,1? HIM TllO PUN want up stairs, anci in 4441" 4 P.Patite Fame down With the prisoner, who• 4 1T orn w p ito i l e it ti gg i t u, ar ne w p atoisttooheast,taatinodn station-house, his u s e hair an db hadoo dy' somel difficulty in preserVing him from the fury of the mob. He did not say a word. I went back to theahlies house, and found the crowd foreinir their way l e nto it. The police eleUvq the Way, and 1 addressed the people, telling them it was desirable to search for the gun. Some of the police up stairs called out that the gun was found, and I saw it in the hands of Serjeant Pearson. .It had no ramrod in it, but the rod was Alund broken in 411Qciler part of 00 VOW% I (Ailed to Mr. A. J, Moore, and, on putting the ramrod into the gun, I found there was something soft in it. The ramrod ' being too short to draw the charge, we sent for another rod and drew the gun. First came out this pellet, [Here the -witness produced a hard mass of citewo paper, three times the size of an plaltt...y paper wad.] This pellet and fil gTVA4y, a; - - - if it had been t a ke n nut , a gum recently fired, and it made a stain on my hand. On turning down the muzzle of the gun, a good deal of powder fell on the ground, but a good ehargo of coarse powder was saved, which I proclace, The Magistrate here asked who conducted the case against the prisoner ; on which, after a brief consultation between Inspector Billies aad Mr. A. J. Moore, one of Lord HOwiek's law agents, the latter gentleniari took the management of the prosecution. Thomas Milton, of Newcastle, sworn, said ho was 'struck by a stone from the public-house as ho was pass ing, holding by the handle of Sir Tiedworth's carriage door, lie also saw the prisoner, whom he knew well, present the gun, but he did not see it fired. lie heard the clash of the windows broken before he saw the gun. Walker Featherstonhaugh, Esq., sworn, said— I was in the carriage with Lord Howick, with my back to the horses, when his Lordship exclaimed, "Good God, there is a man with a gun !" On looking, I saw a man a t one of the upper windo ws , i n t h e act of cocking something like a gun. From another upper window a volly of stones was thrown, one of which struck Lord Howick and another myself. No glass had then been broken, and all had been quiet up to that time. The carriage then drove off at.a quick pace, and I saw nothing more. William Boves Walker, sworn, said—l was standing near Liddle's house when the procession came by, and distinctly say that no attack was made on the house before Lord Howick's carriage came up. Some one cried out, " There's a gun !" and on looking up I saw prisoner in the act of presenting a gun, and apparently using threatening language. I saw nothing more, but went away, thinking there would be mischief. As I passed the back lane, I saw Liddle with two stone por ter-bottles in his hand, which he threw into the crowd. I saw another man come out of the house with a heavy piece of wood in his hand, which he threw into the crowd. Cross-examined by Mr. Wright—Many of the mob and Lord Howick's carriage : had passed the house about 20 yards before I saw the gun presented. It was not presented at the carriage at first, but was afterwards. Mr. H. Hindmarch, barrister-at-law, sworn, said— I was sitting on the box of the third carriage in the procession, when I heard a cry—" A man is going to fire 1" I looked forward, and saw a man in his shirt sleeves with a gun at his shoulder, and apparently aiming it at Lord Howick's carriage. As the carriage was passing on the man moved his gun so as to take a proper aim. I also saw a large quantity of stones coma from the windows of the house. On looking again at the house, I saw something proceeding from. the gun, which I believed to be smoke ; I have a doubt on the point, but very little doubt. The man then ap parently pointed his gun at the second carriage, in the same way as at the first ; but I saw no smoke then. We drove on as quickly as we could, and as we passed the house, a shower of stones was thrown at us from the house. I saw two or three panes broken as we passed, Cross-examined by Mr. Wright—l cannot say from what part of the gun the smoke proceeded, but I think from the lock. Sir H. Williamson explained, that the broken ram rod, though too short to draw the pellet from the gun, was of sufficient length to have drawn any charge that might have been over it, supposing Liddle to have at tempted to unload his gun during the interval between the outrage and his capture. Mr. Moore here pray e d th e C our t f or an adjournment of the case till Tuesdav, win n he exp ec t s t o b r i ng proo f of a large quantity o f stones having been collected in the house, and also of Liddle's having cleaned his gun with the intention of using it in the way described. Mr. Wright requested the Magistrates, if they re manded the prisoner, to allow him to go out on bail, as he should show that he had acted merely in self-defence. This l‘tti objected to by Mr. Moore ; but after a private consultation the Mayor announced that bail should be taken for the re-appearance of the prisoner, himself being bound in BCL, and two sureties in 401. each. Messrs. George Hudson and William Story, two of Mr. Attwood's Monkwearmouth friends, are Liddle's bondsmen. Liddle's house is a perfect wreck, every article of fur niture having been smashed to atoms, and his stock of pro-visions and liquor thrown into the street by the crowd in revenge for his conduct. The prisoner's wife says that the sum of 2001., which she had concealed in the house, was carried off by the mob. Immediately after the outrage, Lord and Lady Howick drove off to• Sir Hedworth 'Williamson's, at Whitburn, but will return on Monday, the 20th inst., when a public dinner is to be given to his Lordship in the Athenaeum. NEW MINISTRY. The Attorney-General had a very long interview this morning with Sir James Graham and Mr. Manners Sutton at the Home -office. several of the Cabinet Ministers visited Sir Robert Peel, this morning, at his residence in Whitehall gardens. A Treasury messenger was sent off with dispatches this morning for her Majesty at Windsor Castle.— Evening Paper. PUBLIC NUISANCE. —About three months ago the house, No. 126, Strand, next to the Globe Newspaper Office, was pulled down, and during nearly the whole of that period the passengers in the street, and more parti cularly the inhabitants of the neighbouring ho uses , h ave been grievously annoyed by the dust raised in removing the rubbish. A hoard has been erected all that time, the street consequently is greatly obstructed, and as far as can be seen from the operations going on the nuisance may continue for six months more. Only a few old men are employed in car r yi ng out ru b bish daily, as it . for. the purpose of annoying th e iphOitants. The District Sur. v.py.ov, and still more the authorities who preside over the Duchy of Lancaster, are greatly to blame in winking at the nuisance. We have always understood that when perm i s sion was granted to erect a hoard for such a pur pose, the shortest time pos s ibl e, i n a great thoroughfare like the Strand, was allowed for fie-constructing the building. CHARACTER OF MAN. —A s storm following , storm, and wave succeeding wave, giie additional hard ness to the shell that encloses . th e p ear l , so do the storms and waves of life add force to the character of man. TAE, SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER'2I, 1841. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, Sept. 20. Their Lordships met at half-past three, when Lord Lowther. waajnttoduced by Lords Redesdale and Stuart de RutlisaY, and took the oaths and his seat. BRITISH SLAVE TR &DING. • Anti -Slavery Society, praying Lord BROUGH A NI presented a petition from the British and F ore i gn the attention of the h ouse -to the lamentable fact that Bri tish subjects were - extensively engaged, . and • promoted the traffic, in slaves. - He (L or d B roug h am ) h a d h ope d that British S u bj ects had long since retired from all particip a ti on i n that trade; but the facts which he had to state would show that some of them were still engag e d i n, and seeking profit from, that infernal tiaffic. Various Mining Companies were formed in this country, which carried on their ope rations in Brazil and Cuba, working their mines by newly imported slaves from Africa, who were illicitly pur chased by the agents of these Companies, although such agents well knew that the importation of the slaves was illegal, contraband, and piratical. Whatever might be lawful to a foreigner in his own country, it would not be is long- if he purchased a Slave in any part of the British dominions. Butifa British subject so participated in slave trading, that is to say, by the purchase of a, newly-imported slaVe, in a country where the importation was by law de clared to be piratical—such British subject could be seized in this country, tried, and convicted of felony. Three years ago he would be punished with death, but now he would be liable only to transportation for life, whether such trade in the country in which the act was done were legal or illegal. In the case referred to by the petitioners the only question would be, whether the purchase of slaves newly imported was an act of slave-trading. The peti tion stated that officers in the army and navy were engaged in making such purchases, as agents of those Companies ; and goods were manufactured in this country which were called coast goods, and it was known that they were employed only in the slave trade. He would not ;:ay that the mere sale of those goods, out and out, al though knowing the illegal use for whic:,. they were destined, was a felony ; but if, as was stated in the petition, British subjects in the Brazils and Cuba sold such goods, not out and out, but on condition of a price to be paid proportionate to the profits of a slave trading adventure, then such persons were guilty of felony. The petitioners stated that it was notorious that fetters and shackles were made in this country for the purpose of being exported to Brazil and Cuba, to lie employed in the slave trade. Ho had no hesitation in saying that such a trado did not come within the provisions of the Slave-trade Abolition Act. They also represented that vessels were built in this country expressly for the slave trade, and one ease of that Ural was within his ON 11 knowledge. The petitioners prayed the House to extend the provisions of the Slave Trade Consolidation Act ofis4, co as to prohibit all British subjects from dealing in slaves tinder any pretence what ever, or they prayed 'that their Lordships would appoint a Committee to inquire into the subject, The latter object he would support. Before sitting down he begged to ask his Noble Friend the President of the Board of Trade whether there would be any objection to lay on the table of the House the report of 1)r. Madden who had been an the coast of Africa on a mission of inquiry ? • -1;:arl RIPON had nut heard anything relating to the subject. - The Report alluded to would most likely be made to the Secretary of State, and not to the department over which lie had the honour to preside. He had never heard of the statements eon tallied ill the petition, and he trusted most sincerely that they were untrue. The Duke of WELLINGTON laid on the table the correspondence between the late Chancellor of the Exche quer and other parties relative to the warming and ventil lation of the Alew ilousesof Parliament. It was important tho papers should be considered as soon as possible. lie would, therefore ; move that a Committe be appointed to sit on Thursday next.—Agreed Lord DE CLIFFORD gmre notice of his intention to move, on Thursday % thy. copies of certain papers relating to India, TM col-rpm -AI said he had laid on the table of' the House three very important Bills. Al though it was necessary that 'they should be separate Pills,. still the object of the whole of them was to establish Local Courts, so that greater facilities might be afforded to the subject in obtaining justice. As it was Aow vtiteaat certain that they could not be proceeded with duri.:g the present Session, as they could not possibly re ceive t he consideration which they imperatively demanded, he did not propose to ask their Lordships to proceed further with them before the recess. The Noble. hard ooncluded, by stating that he wouldbrie. cv,rwAed his Bills on an early day next Session. The House then adjourned, at a quarter to Six, until Thursday next. HOUSR OF COMMONS, Sept. 20. no SNEAKER took the Chair a few minutes before Four o'Clock. Sir J. Graham, for Dorchester, and Dr. Nichol, for Cardiff; took the oaths and their seats. MAYNOOTII COLLEGE. Mr. PLUMPTRE presented thirty-ftve petitions from SheernOss and other places in Kent, against any - further grant to Maynooth College. RAJAH OF SATTARA. Dr. BOWRING presented a petition, agreed to at a public meeting i n Dub entreating th e House to in quire into the case of the Rajah of Sattara, and if he should be innocent to adopt means to restore him to his former authority. PROPERTY -TAX ASSOCIATION. • Mr. WAKLEY prespated a petition from Henry Jones, Honorary Secretary to a newly formed Associa tion, called the London. Property-tax Association, in stituted to promote a tax on property in lieu of the taxes of Customs and Excise. The petitioners stated that property was able to take care •of itself, but poverty needed the protection of the law. He therefore proposed a, tax on property, and prayed the House to take the subject into consideration during the present Session. The Hon. Member also presented a petition from 204 persons connected with agriculture at Milton Abbot, Devon, praying for the repeal of the ex isting duties on sugar. corn, and timber. CORN-LAWS. Mr. COBDEN presented a petition from Abingdon, signed by 504 bakers, butchers, and other inhabitants of that town, praying for the abolition of the Corn-laws. The SPEAKER informed the House that he had re ceived a report from the Election Petition Committee, stating that the sureties ft , r the petitioners were unexcep tionable in the cases of the petitions against the returns for the following places :—Thetford, Nottingham, Wareham, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Lyme Regis, Aferthyr Tydvill, Harwich, Stafford, St. Ives, the County of Rutland, and New Windsor. THE BANKRUPTCY COURT. Sir R. H. INGLIS presented a petition from. he said, a most respectable individual, named M‘Donald, com plaining of injury done to his property by the misconduct of an official assignee under the Court of Bankruptcy, and praying for redress. TITHE RETURNS. Mr. (TANNERS SUTTON moved for a return of the number of compositions made under the Tithe Com position Act in England and Wales, from the Ist Janu ary to the Ist July, 1 841.—Agreed to. NOTICES OF MOTION.—EDUCATION. Mr. EWART gave notice that on an early day he should renew the motion of which he had given notice last Session, for an address to her Majesty, praying that she would be graciously pleased to order n report to be laid before the House annually of the state and progress of education, such report to be prepared under the su perintendence of some responsible Minister of the Crown. IMPORT' DUTIES. • The HoN. MEMBER also gave notice, that on Tuesday week he should propose a resolution to the effect that the principles laid down in the report of the Committee of the House —which sat last Parlia ment to consider if the import duties were essential to the preservation of the trade and commerce of the coun try, and to the beneficial employment of its inhabitants— ought to be adopted by any Government which sought to enjoy the confidence of the countgsc-(Cheers.) WAYS AND MEANS. - Mr. WILLIAMS wished, as the Chancellor of the Exchequer was not in his place, to ask the lion. Baronet the Secretary to the Treasury, if he could inform the House .on what night the Chancellor of the Exchequer proposed going into Committee on the 'Ways and "Means? Sir G. CLERK said the Ways and Means could not be discussed until the Supplies had been voted, and he apprehended it would be impossible to bring the ques tion before the House before Friday, or perhaps Monday. POOll-LAWS. Captain PECHELL, seeing the SeFretari of State for the Home "Department in his place, wished ro ask him on what day he proposed bringing in a Bill for the renewal of the Poor-law Commission ? Sir J. GRAHAM said that in the course of the even ing notice would be given of the day on which the mea sure was w be brought forward. • CHURCH EXTENSION. On Sir G. CLERK moving the Order of the Day for the House resolving itself into a Committee of Supply, Mr. HAWES said he wished to ask the Hon. Baronet the Member for the University of Oxford if it was his intention to renew during the present Session th e mot i on of which he had given notice last session on th e su bj ect of Church Extension, and if not, whether he i n t en d e d to bring forward the question during the ensuing Session of Parliament? Sir 11. INGLIS said it was not his intention, during the present Session to renew the motion on the sub ject of Church Extension, of which he had only given notice last Session—(Hear, hear)—not having brought the subject before the House since June, 1840. With re gard to next Session he thought it better to postpone any announcement on the subject until that Session should arrive. —(Hear, hear, and a laugh.) LORI) CHANCEILON OF IRELAND. Mr. TUFNELL, seeing oe Honourable and Learned Member for Ripon in his place, wished to ask the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Tamworth if there were tyet completed in a general any truth in the report that it had been intend e d t o ap point that Right Hon. Gentleman Lord Ch ancellor of Irela n d, and if that intention had been aband one d ? Sir E. SUGDEN said, that perhaps he h t ui b e t ter I: e e n s had e e a sect, been answer that question. • The statements Which st a t e d .t h at but theappointed measures to that were ce were,n o fll fir the displacement of the former officer and th e ap pointment of his successor. . Sir R. PEEL said there could be no doubt as to t h e o intention of conferring the appointment in question on his Right Hon. and Learned Friend ; and the.peye lonn y of kissing hands, which 14 not yet _ taken place, was all that WPA Wanting to (:amplete the arrangement. POOR-LAWS... _ _ would know ld be conve nit. encea great what day it would be proposed to renew the Poor-law Bill, he hoped o PE manyeiiEHLoin said, as Members the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir 1..3ee1), whom he saw in his place, would afford them that information. Sir R. PEEL said he meant to give notice that be should bring in the Bill to-morrow. As he had before said, he intended to propose ro alteration whatever in the provisions of the Bill, and as he believed that no advantage would be derived from discussion under pre sent circumstances, he intended to include the Poor law Bill in the general yearly Bills. Mr. OTIVAY CAVE said h e ORN-LAWS would take the op portunity of entering his humble protest against the course which the majority of the House, under the guidance of the Hon. Baronet at the head of the present Administration, had thought p ro p er to pursue with r egar d to t h e Corn laws. He protested against that course, because he feared it would be considered by the working classes at the present crisis as marked alike by inhumanity, by impolicy, and by inconsistency, and when he coupled the cour se p ursue d, Wi t h the ex pressions u se d b y a Noble Duke in another- place, to the effect that their misery was in a great mea sure their own fault ; that in this country such a state of things prevailed that any working man, with common honesty and common prudence, might secure to himself a competency—although he would not say with the Honourable Member for Fins bury that such conduct and language was enough to drive the working classes mad, yet he would say that he feared they would drive them to de spair. He coupled the expression with another uttered.on a different occasion by his Noble Friend the Member for Liverpool, who stated that he thought the present Corn-laws in no way connected with the present distress. Such a statement, he thought, his Noble Friend would find very difficult to make even the people of Liverpool believe, although proceeding from so high an authority. He also thought that the people would be exceedingly grieved when they read the assertion of the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for • Dorchester ; namely, that high prices were to be maintained at all times, and at all hazards, • When the working classes read such expresSions, and coupled with it the fact that they had shut the door of the HouSe of Commons against a starving people for five months, it needed no prophet to predict what results would ensue, or what discontent would prevail throughout the approaching winter. He thought he might say, moreover, that it was inconsitent in the Right Hun. Baronet to ask for this delay, and in the month of April last, when the Noble Lord an nounced his measure respecting the Budget, the Ho nourable Baronet said that even one month's delay would, in reference to the Corn-laws, be an intolerable evil, and yet, when. three or four months had been added to that period, he still asked for four or five months longer. He could not but lament the inferences which he was afraid might be drawn by the starving and suffer ing manufacturing classes throughout the kingdom for such conduct.—(Hear.) lie thought he already saw the tottering of that Holy Alliance which had been cemented between the Chartists and the Conserva tives.—(A laugh from the Ministerial benches.) Did Hon. Gentlemen never hear of Nottingham ? He thought the working classes would very soon dis cover that it w ou ld have been better to have supported • lukewarm friends than bitter opponents—that they would curse the triumphs which in many instances they had been enabled to achieve, and bitterly repent changing King Log for the Stork. illany persons supposed before he came into office that the Right Hon. Baronet was in possession of some panacea by which to cure the public distress, and this idea had been conferred by the language of the Right Honourable Baronet himself. In his famous Tamworth speech he asked if a rival physician would give his advice Unless he were regularly called in. The sentiment of the Right Hon. Baronet was the opposite of generous and disinterested, but even such as it was he had not acted up to it. He had been regularly called in, he had regularly pocketed his fee—(" No," from the Conservative benches) — and in proportion to the hopes and expectations which he bad excited in the minds of the people would be their anger and disappointment at his present conduct. There was another question on which he was particu larly anxious to be informed by the Right Hon. Baronet. He begged to know whether the present Government would persevere in bringing in the Bill relating to re gistration in Ireland, which had been introduced by the Noble Lord the Member for North Lancashire last Ses sion ? Ile (Mr. Cave) wished that it fell to some Honourable Gentlemen abler than he was to put that question, but in the absence of one more competent, he conceived himself bound to do so.—(Hear, hear.) lie regretted to say that he could not partake in that confidence which a Noble Lord (Lord John Rus sell) who sat near him, said he had in the liberality of the sentiments which the present Cabinet entertained with respect - to Ireland. He could not participate in such confidence when he saw holding the office of Lord Chancellor, the Noble Lord who declared that the Irish were " aliens in blood, aliens in language, and aliens i n religion." H e cou ld not s h are i n that confidence when he knew that the Noble Lord, who had brought in a disfran chising Bill for Ireland, held high place in the councils of the chief of the present Administration. He could not have perfect reliance on the statements of those Noble Lords with regard to Ireland, and their liberal feelings towards it. he believed they hated Ireland with a holy, a pure, and a perfect hatred.—(" Oh, oh !" from the Ministerial benches.) They thought that Ireland and the Irish were what they were described to be in a certain class of newspapers. Not knowing Ireland as well as he (Mr. C.) did, they gave credence to every idle rumour circulated about that country ; and, above all, those rumours respecting elections, and they thought it right to take the power of election out of their hands. Of the private and personal character of the two Noblemen who filled the stations of Secretary and Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, the Right lion. Ba ronet could not entertain a higher opinion than he (Mr. C.) did ; but, at the same time, he must say that no Gentleman on either side of the House would venture to assert that they were either experienced or practised politicians. The inference the people of Ire land would draw from those two appointments would be, that two politicians unaccustomed to managing public affairs had been sent over to that country to " try their 'prentice hands"—to make an experimentum in cor pore vili.—(Hear, hear, hear.) However well in tentioned those Noblemen might be towards Ireland, still an impression would and did exist, that they would be controlled, and their best efforts frustrated, by the Lord Chancellor and the Noble Lord the Secretary for the Colonies. Therefore he entreated the Right Hon. Baronet to give him a clear and unequivocal answer to his question. For let him tell the Right Hon. Gentleman, if the people of Ireland did not receive a clear and unequivocal answer on that head, they would think themselves justified in having immediate recourse to political agitation as the least of two evils. If the people of that country remained perfectly quiet, they would be told that they had no grievances —that it was their agitating demagogues who put the existence of grievances into their heads. It; on the contrary, they got up an agitation against their grievances, they would be told by English Ministers that they would not grant to clamour what they denied to justice. So long as Ministers continued that policy abroad, which had been acted on by the late Noble Secretary for Foreign Af fairs, and which had wrung a reluctant admiration even from that Noble Lord's political opponents, at home and abroad-,so long as they continued that course, so long. would. Ireland be proud of her connection with England.—(Hear.) If, on the contrary, they adopted the evils of slavery—if they attempted to impose political degradation on Ireland—the Irish people would be justi fied before God and man in raising the standard of re peal.—(llear.) Sir R. PEEL was understood to say he should beg leave to confine his answer to the questions of the Hon. Gentleman to one subject. He (Sir Robert Peel) certainly did not identify himself with the Bill brought forward by his Noble Friend (Lord ' Stanley). With his Noble Friend and the House he should leave it. He should be exceedingly glad to see the admitted errors connected with the system of Irish registration corrected ; but, on the other hand, he should be unwilling to attempt to correct those errors by any limitation of the franchise granted to the people.—(Hear, hear.) His endeavour would be to reconcile these two objects, and such, he was sure, was the intention of his Noble Friend. He wished' to reconcile the correction of admitted abuses in the registration, with the preservation either of existing franchises or others of a similar extent. Ile bad no intention to bring forward any measure on the subject at present, but he meant, with his Noble Friend, to take it into consideration, and the House would find, if any measure was brought forward, that they had studious]e attempted to reconcile these two objects.—(Hear, irear.) BOARD OF ORDNANCE AND THE AD MIRALTY. Sir C. NAPIER begged to call the attention of the Right Hon. Baronet to the administration of the Beard of Ordnance. Hitherto it had been ac customed to permit naval officers to sit at that Board, and he could not conceive how it was possible to carry on business without them. He was afraid the present practice would be attended with serious injury, and he thought it was paying a very bad compliment to the navy, that, out of 600 Captains and 200 Admi ra l s , many of them having seats in that House, not one cou ld b e found capale of being intrusted with that duty. He must also ex.. press his regret that a civilian had been put at the head of the , Board of Admiralty. He thought it would not be more absurd to make him Lord Chancellor or Archbishop of Canterbury---(Loud laughter)—than to place a gentleman at the head of the Admiralty who probably could not distinguish between a line-of-battle-ship and a frigate.—(Laughter.) It was generally complained of that Admirals and naval officers should have to go up stairs, hat in hand, to solicit the rewards of service of those who were quite incapable of appreciating what their services were, Sir ROBERT PEEL said that the Gallant Cap tain was not qu it e correct i n stating that to. have a naval offi cer a t t h e Admiralty Board was the invariable practice. He did not intend to enter into the discussion of the general question, but he believed the Board, as eanstituted, gave. general satis faction.—(" No, fro g no," very emphatically from Sir C. Napier, wjs l cooasioned much laughter.) CAptaiu PECUELL and Captain PLUMRIDGE also com plained that the Board should be constituted without. naval officer. A Sir H. HARDINGE sa id h e had sat es Or six y ears at the Board without a naval officer, As to the Ordnance, he could only say that he holioved it would be very in jurious not to h a l m A military person p l aced over it.—(Hear, 4.10 He could not see how a ci v ili an could know anything whatever of that department. In answer to a question put to Lord PALMERSTON by Sir EARDLEY WILMOT, respecting the vessels employed upon the coast of Africa, the Noble Lord said he had every reason to believe that six vessels were to be employed on that coast, but he could not say if the information was correct. He hEd, however, sent to make the inquiry from the Board of Admiralty. FIELDEN wished to know from the Right Honourable Baronet the Member for Tamworth what he meant to do with the unions that were not yet in cluded in the Bill for the Continuance of the Poor-law Commission? Sir R. PEEL said he had explained his intentions but a short time since. He thought it mould be prudent to include such unions in the general Act when it would be bi ought forward. It would be competent for the Hon. Member to propose in the Committee that some union should be excluded if lie thought fit. IRISH CHANCELLORSHIP. Sir THOMAS WYLDE said he was desirous of bringing before the House the propriety of his Right Honourable Friend, the-Chancellor of Ireland, continu ing to sit in that House after accepting the office of Chancellor. The principle of, the constitution was, that whoever should accept such an office should go back to his constituents before he could sit in that House. It was rendered necessary by statute that he should do so. But it was said that some ceremony, requisite upon the announcement of that appointment, had not been gone through, and that therefore his Right Hon. Friend had not been guilty of any violation of the statute. But he would say that a more dangerous and decided invasion of the prin ciple of that Act of Parliament had never been made. His Right lion. Friend had been, by the authority of the Crown, appointed to the high office of Chancellor of Ire land . Ile accepted that appointment, and having done so, he (Sir T. W.) begged to know whether the influence arising from that office. whatever it might be, did not dis entitle him from sitting in that House, or what part of that influence was withheld, the absence of which entitled him to do so ? What practice could be more dangerous than that a person so situated may be able to vote on questions of supply, and every other question affecting the property and liberty of the subject? He, therefore, begged to say he would shortly bring the subject under the consideration of the House, adding at the same time that he meant nothing personal to his Right Hon. Friend, for no i man could entertain a ' igher regard f or hi m th an h e (Sir T. Wilde) did, u t h e h a d a hi gher regard for the liberty of th e ople and the character of the House, which he thought' the conduct of the Right Ho nourable Gentleman was calculated to injure. He conceived his occupying his seat was an invasion of the Act of Parliament, and he would feel it his duty to bring the matter before the consideration of' the House. Sir E. SUGDEN said that as he was not present. at the early part of the observations of the Honourable and Learned Gentleman, he could not make any reply to them ; but he understood the Honourable Member to say that lie (Sir Edward Sugden) was acting unconstitutionally in retaining his seat in that House, having accepted the office of Lord Chancellor of Ireland. He would beg- to say he did so, because he conceived that he did not legally fill that office though he consented to do so. Ite — ttnsidered it his duty to his constituents not to abandon the trust they reposed in him, until he had lost it in law. He would also say that he had not voted on any question j since he accepted that office. He would say, and the House would believe him, that he had no intention of acting unconstitutionally, and he was never so surprised as when, without the least notice—(Cheers from the Ministerial benches)—he heard the speech of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman. And when he was pleased to say, in his speech, that he entertained kindly feelings to wards him (Sir E. Sugden) he could only say that by his acts he did not show it.—(Hear, hear, hear.) He believed he was standing on his right as Mem ber for Ripon, by maintaining his place in that House. He did not wish to carry the principle to any inconvenient extent, and if it were the opinion of the House that he was stretching the constitutional principle, he would at once withdraw—(Hear, hear) — but he did not consider he had lost his rights as a Mem ber of Parliament until he actually filled the office which he had accepted. At that moment he was not legally Lord Chancellor of Ireland. Lord Campbell still, legally speak ing, held that office. It was not an acceptance of office, within the, meaning of the Act, until the appointment had actually taken place.—(Hear.) It was not an acceptance to say he would accept. The Minister might withdraw his offer. The office was held by patent, and the delivery of the Great Seal into his hand was certainly necessary before the appointment could take effect. That seal still remained in the custody of those to whom Lord Campbell had de livered it. The patents were not perfected, and therefore ntil they were so, and until all the necessary cere monies had been gone through he could not be eon sidered as Lord Chancellor of Ireland. He hoped the House would acquit him of any improper feeling, or.of any presumpti on on t h e su bj ect ; b ut he considered that his constituents would have a right to accuse him of neglecting their interests, if he abstained from occu pying his place as' their representative, while he had a night by law to do so. Sir THOMAS WYLDE rose to explain why he had not given notice to hi s Ri g h t H on. Friend, and in doing so he would repeat those expressions of courtesy towards him which he had before used, although he knew that his Right Hou. Friend had a very peculiar method of acknowleding any courtesies.—(Hear, hear, and a laugh.) He was not aware when he entered the House that it was the intention of his Honourable Friend to rut a question to the Right Honourable Baronet opposite on the subject ; but that question having been put, he felt it his duty when he heard the answer, to Jose no time in giving notice of his intention to bring the subject before the House ; and he had consequently no opportunity of giving notice to his Right Hon. Friend. In that intention he had been confirmed by the very dangerous doctrine laid down by his Right Hon. Friend, and gave notice that to-morrow he should draw the attention of the House to the subject, Lord J. RUSSELL thought his Hon. and Learn"ed Friend was quite right, as the acceptance of office by the Right Hon. Gentleman had been published. He did not imagine that the Right lion. Gentleman opposite wished to retain his seat improperly ; but the question was one as to the construction of an Act of Parliament, and the light Hon. Gentleman's interpretation was, that no one could be properly said to have accepted office until , lie was in the full execution of the duties of that office, and all the necessary preliminary forms had been gone through. In some offices, such as those of a Secretary of State, this could be done a t once; b ut i n others, such as those of the Lords of the Admiralty, the patents would take a week to make out. When he (Lord J. R.) was appointed Paymaster of the Forces, it was three weeks before tho patent was made out, but in all those cases it had been customary, on the accept aece of office, to move for a new writ. If it was right, that custom ought to be continued ; if the construction of the Right Hon. Gentleman was right, then it ought to be dis continued ; at all events th e p ract i ce should be uniform. —(Hear, hear.) A case had occurred during the late Administration, in which Mr. Horsman, having ac cepted the office of a Lord of the Treasury, Hon. Gentlemen opposite had raised a question respect ing his having voted in that HOuse after he had de clared in his addresses to his constituents that he accepted office. No further motion or discussion of the subject took place on that occasion, but after what had f a ll en f rom the Right Hon. Gentleman he thought it extremely desirable that they should come to some understanding as to what was the real meaning of the Act of Parliament. POOR-LAW. Mr. YORKE wished to know whether there was any difficulty in introducing into the proposed Poor-law Bill a clause taking from the Commissioners the power order ing the indiscriminate separation of man and wife. Sir R. PEEL would consider the question, and give an answer to-morrow. At all events, he would adopt such a course as should not preclude the Hon. Gentleman from bringing the question before the House. Mr. YORKE said that if the provision could not be introduced into the existing Bill, it would bo necessary, as far as he was concerned, to introduce a separate Bill on the subject. PRICE OF CORN IN RUSSIA. Mr. HARCOURT had seen a Report from the Consul at St. Petersburg, stating that, in 1835, in the Government of Tamboc, in Russia, 58 mi l .;ions of quarters of grain had been produced, 'and that the price of Wheat in St. Petersburgh at tkat time was from 13s. 6d. to 14s. ld. a quarter. Ne - ,v, this statement appeared to him so extraordinP:fy that he should, have paid no attention to it had it not been sub mitted both to th', Foreign-office and to the Board of if it were *- grade. He if H e so, wiisthed to mus t know e a most '.....'iportant bearing on the discussion of the corn question ? The province was by no means ;.opulous, and there would be at least thirty millions of this corn surplus ; and from that they might judge what would be the production of the rest of Russia, From the statement it appeared that the corn could be had at the first hand in St. Petersburgh for 14s. a quarter, the charge of putting_ it on board s hi p would be 3s. 2d. a quarter, the freight of ss. a quarter, so that it could be brought into the Thames for 225. 2d. a quarter. Bs. duty would therefore be no protection, as with that the price would be only 30s. a quarter. Now he wished, as a County Member, to enter into a dispassionate Con sideration of the Corn-laws, with a view of seeing what modification could be made in them without injury. But this statement as to the corn produce of Russia certainly required explanation.—(Hear, hear.) They had arrived at th ese results by erroneous cal culations ; and he, therefore, wished to ask his Noble Friend whether any information received in the ' course of the last year confirmed those state ments? If these were true, then it was impor tant that the agriculturists should know what they had to contend with in the event. of die trade being opened ; and if the statements were incor rect, it was equally desirable to allay the ungrounded alarm which they were calculated to excite. Lord PALMERSTON said that there was no ground for the alarm of his Honourable Friend, for the returns -from which he had just read were evidently erroneous. The province of Tamboc was smaller than Ireland or Scotland in the propor tion of nineteen to twenty-two, and it was not probable that its productiveness was equal to that which was calculated in these papers. But looking to the actual exports of corn from all Russia, there was no reason for alarm. Even in the years of alleged productiveness, 1835 and 8 from St. Peter s b urg h was none.—,(Hear, export of wheat ar,laugh.) and a Mr. HARCOURT sa id t h at h e h a d f e l t no alarm whatever, and he had only to add that the document from which he had quoted was official. WAYS AND MEANS. Mr. WILLIAMS sa id, th a t seeing the the Exch equer th en i n hi s pl ac e, he would C )u h t a t n o ce b l i l m or of the question he had before put to th t e i was i o.bt Hon. Baronet intention to bring forward the question of (Sir G. Clerk), namely, when i lva bring forward and Means ? E fo X r C w il ar E d Q th il e E q ß ues s ti a o id n - e thaTthiet CwHasAbNisCEinLteLnOtioßb to le but nat sooner. of b th n SYRIAN TARIFF OWRING said that before he put the quest i on to On Monday next, if possible, Dr. B her Majesty's Government, of which he had given notice, on the subject of the great increase of duties on export ' nd import said to be levied m Syria si nce h a t province was restored to Turkiab. authority EVEN - LNG SUN he would request the attention of the, to a .hort explanatory statement. For a Ton i there had existed between this country and the ( elllpiro a treaty ofeanmerce, by which there was a 3 per cent. on exports and imports. It was known that gr a abuses existed, an d that these duties were subject to hittory etaysmag internal charges. In order to remove this grievance, in 1836 a treaty was entered into, the object of which was, instead of a duty of 3 per cent. to impose a duty of 12 per cent. on imports on the Turkish Treasury, and a duty of live per cent. on exports for all internal taxes were put an end to. He was aware, that with respet•t to Turkey Proper, that treaty was of great value and very important to commercial interests, but the treaty could only have been entered into by persons having an imperfect idea of the state of Turkey , and its dependencies, because, in many of them in which the internal duties were levied, the old cluty of three per cent, was not paid. In the provinces of the Danube the treaty was altogether a • dead letter, while in Syria it was grievously • oppressive. It must have been to this treaty that Prince Metternich adverted in a despatch of tha 20th April, 1841, in which he said that it'll& was not altogether deceived, the Porte would have to aban don, i t the greater part of its dominions, the mode of receipt recently introduced into several of them. It w0,,k1 seem that the Turks had imposed upon the inha bitant-. of Syria enormous duties, contrary to the argu ment; entered into by her Majesty's Government. His Kon. and Gallant Friend below, in an address to th'e ;;;Tians, dated August, last year, said " The Allied Powers have engaged to recommend the Sultan to make an assangement which will make your condition happy and prosperous. Lord Ponsonby wrote that the Porte had engaged to make a remission of taxes. The Noble Lord the Member for Tiverton himself said the honour of the British Crown requires that the promises made to Syria by the British Government should be fulfilled." Mr. Wood certainly went very far indeed in his promises, and in some of his daspatches was very • extraordinary language ; for this Turkish Envoy of a Turkish Government, called upon the inhabitants of Syria, in the name of th e Koran, which he en titl e d " the Holy Book and the Sacred Levis" to rebel, and Lord Ponsonby said so great was his confi.lence in Mr. Wood, that he said, "I have instructed Mr. Wood to consider himself absolutely free from the authority and control of everybody in Syria, in his excu tion ta' the duties of the trust reposed in him by the Porte." The Noble Lord, in answer to the complaints which came to him of the vexatious proceedings of the Turkish troops towards the Christians, required Lord Ponsonby to give full satisfitction to them, and Lord Pensonby stated that the Porte was ready to take any measure for that purpose. Now, the Syrians had suffered much. Their towns had been destroyed ; their fields had been devaatated, and numbers of them had perished. He re joiced that his Noble Friend was present who was cogni sant ot; and a party to, the pro m i ses given. His obj ec t in b: iaging forward he subject was to ask the Right Honourable Baronet opposite whether her Majesty's Go vernment were aware that the 'duties had been increased by the Turkish authorities in Syria, notwithstandin g all the engagements to which haled referred; and if so, whe ther any measure had been taken to obtain a redress of those grievances ? Sir ROBERT PEEL said the Noble Lord opposite would be better able to answer the question than him self.— (A laugh.) He believed that in 1838 a treaty was made, which for various internal monopolies substi tuted a duty of 9 per cent. upon exports. There had been previously an export duty of 3 per cent., which continued to be levied, and at present the whole duty to which British subjects were liable was a duty of 12 per cent. on exports. In some cases he apprehended that the operation of the levy of that duty might have borne hardly upon the native inhabitants, comparing the pre sent amount of duty to which they had formerly been subject. Bat, upon the whole, he apprehended that the substituticn of a duty of 9 per cent. in lieu of the various monopolies and exactions which had before pre vailed, was an advantage to British commerce. Teling Syria generally, h e apprehended there could' be no dout that the operation of the treaty hail been satsittetory. Complaints were made by the inha bitants of Syria that they were subject to new impositions. He believed there had been Commissioners appointed by the Porte, who had been in communication %Rh the in habitants of Lebanon. Those people had demanded ex emption from the operation of :he new duties for a period of three years, in consequence of the assurances which had been given them by the Turkish authorities. That questi ni still remained unsettled. It was, however, un der consideration. He (Sir R. Peel) could only say that there would be every disposition on the part of the Government of this country to use their influence with Turkey, in order that the advantages which the Syriabs had a right to expect from the interference of 13ritisja authority would be obtained. The Hon. 'Gentler _ tan himself must see that the object of the operatie . ,, s i n Syria: being to restore Turkish independence, it in our p ower to i nterfere beyond certain limits was not only interf ere i n t h e matter of a British We could injured, or i n or d er to induce the Porto to fulfil the en gagements i n t o w hi ch i t had enteentered.'subject being to restore Ott oman power when no The object bein g such reasons as those existed, it was no easy matter r ior foreign Powers .to in sist on the Porte observing. certain conditions with re spect to its own subjects.. He repeated, that all the in fluence which Gover e .ment could use in preventing great changes thentakig P l 'ace to the injury of Syria would be ex erted to r: Linost. Lord .P . ALMERSTON said, that though the course was P'.c a regular one, yet as he had something to do in tsivase matters, he would make a few observations. He knew well the feelings of his Hon. Friend in favour of Mehemet Ali, and it was natural for • him to have some anxiety on the state of Syria. The Hon. Gentle man was naturally anxious that • the treaty of 1838 would not be extended to Egypt, because its operation would reduce those finances which Mehemet Ali applied to pu , poses not agreeable to the Ottoman Government. I With respect to the people of Lebanon, regulations were entered into to prevent their being oppressed. In reply to some observations from Lord C. HA MILTON, Lord PALMERSTON said that Mr. Wood was act ing under the authority of Lord Ponsonby, but in obedi ence to orders from the Turkish authorities. SUPPLY. On the Order of the Day for going into Committee of Supply being read, Mr. S. CRAWFORD said that he thought it neces sary to inquire into the distresses of the country before any grants of money were made. He thought it neces sary to make an appeal on this subject again to the Right Hon. Baronet. He was the more tempted to do so, on account of a communication which he had received that morning from Rochdale. In that letter he was in fornaial that there were in Rochdale 136 families living at the nee of 6d. per head per week, 291 at 10d., 508 at Is., 1,850 at Is. 6d., 1,500 at ls. 9d., and 812 at 2s, 2d. —(Hear, hear.) Five-sixths of the whole population were almost without blankets. When such statements were placer. in the hands of a representative, it was his duty to call th a attention of the House and the Government to them. The Right Hon. Baronet required time te., eon sider how these evils were to be remedied. He aaould not object to give him time, but he thought five months too long .n the distressed condition of the c.'ziuntry.—(Hear, hear.) If the Right Hon. Gentlemaas could not give the peoplo permanent relief, he would at all events alleviate their sufferings by giving them cheap food.—(Hear, hear.) The Right Hon. Baronet claimed also a renewal of the new Poor-law Bill, diminished to the poor the means of obtaining re P ef.—(llear, hear.) His majo rities ould only sustaisi him so long as they were in ac cordance with the feelings of the nation, to which, if they were adverse, the greater the majorities the greater his future weaknass. Th e d ec l aration of the Duke o Wellingtor, that no reforin The oel e S t bos i ehnl. should unu lcie T dtu The foe Ministers enn itrso et, declaration leiwresvo ewud.io,dual nd o df forcet produceth haet was wanted, produced the former r l st Z mili e loe. f u o pi r de : on the peoplew,as that further there refor coulded. He oofren elAa.tvlil i.l even rsi r t : i i e e s f r r o t c rt r r eh oc e s e a l t n s b t f t o h r e m e(: n iv t i i e l convictionintt C.) did not desire to advance the interest of any party, or anyplai complained particular u w l e a r s tmeasurehede idelay n o ft fivehe Government. ni ont,, a nd the i.ulefinite postponement of relief. He would suggest that there should be a short adjournment of the House, to enable the Right Hon. Baronet to decide on his measures; but if that night lion. Gentleman persisted in the course which lie had indicated, lie (Mr. C.) would record his protest by saying " "to the motion for a Committee of St:pply. Sir R. PEEL could assure the lion. Gentleman and the House that he heard with the deepest regret a j a Y statement of the suffering of any portion of the pe 0 , 1 3 ' ,.... At the same time he had a strong impression that_ it ally legislative very difficult matter to provide for such distress legislative enactments and he would be would only be conducing to deceive the people «ere Le to ho! , l out any such hope. All they Could hto do would be to l a y th e f oundation for i mprove ments, i) which society would make a gra d ua l amel i orat i on i n t h e s tate —they co u ld not b y legislation at once improve he could not the con dition of th e p eop l e. He was sorr y that the a cquiescence of consistently w ith hi s d uty purc h ase the lion. M em b er to the mot i on before the Chair, by holding out any such false hopes. Right Hon. Baronet, for every the utmost depression, factures was now in a state greater pleasure, wait and lie would, with infinitely aa Mr. THORNELY was sorry j to b h rs ea n r eh the of re o p u l r y mofaitilnte ann adjourntte miAtotiallmtehlaiotrpaeteriothdewcoithn: Comparing the weekly consump otdhoi tetiroactilibotrifdl the abpnrejuoraprlye,.ienth the present time, short space of one year. He had and that within the tion of raw cotton il i i i t t : sthheo%Lveidvearpdoiomlimnuatrikoent oirnolnBe4.os one-sixth, t n h d , found il practical con v i i i n c e ed n, thatir irrespective propositionstiveofpoliticaof political o t p h i e late to - nio ns ,v thatrea Governme nt would tend gre a tly to rel i eve the trade oftheic% country. There was n o t l ess than 1,600,000 w revenue h e present 64 Od,OuOtyot,ofbuits., according wouwould yi .t t d o quarters of foreign corn in bond, which, at Bs. duty, 80,0001. to the Treasury, while. r would not have been: t ‘ h V e ou ) 1 ( r b i y e re e ield t t t han o n t t h ha e ett consume enhanced by the larger duty.—(Hear, hear, and cheers.) n tl o te present i law, In hi s opinion, this wheat would not have cost the con-. sumers one shilling more, although the Treasury would have gained upwards of half a million of money. (Hear hear.) Gentlemen in the corn trade foresaw, and pro bably managed these averages. cmc'nesasequlgsuceo He was told in August last, on the Corn Exchange at Manchester, that on the, 9th or 16th instant, wheat would come out of bond at. was, per at quarter all e ; o a r n d d i n t a h r e y fofeotnahirns e e x re p i ec al ta p ti rn oxf deuce were set aside, and corn was procured from abroad to any extent, and at any cost It was usual to fix the duty according to the value of the article. But let their t look at the present rate of duty on corn. Wite.at was at Is. per quarter, barley 6s. 4d., rye 10s. 4d , oats 12s. 4d., and peas 2s. Then let them lotil s the operation of the Corn -laws as respected the rinited States. It was quite clear that Gentlemen who ,ought in Ausust last the duty would be now at ls. per • quarter, would be able to bring in corn from the nearest ports in -House period. k*a.a,Tl i, and d in 0. is Ito 11 [ tie. de )ing The 1 to be lt et' Lr ef , r sf 8.0 t he ° to