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tr inTort for seven years, or to harsisb for any they might think proper. For if individuals sinurd ',pen eyes after haring received the 3,ente.ce he law, it was just to visit them Nvi'h apt increase of punishment. He 6ati now st a! , :d the outline of the five mealtires which were deemed necessary by his Majesty's Government to meet existing perils. It had also been found expedient to augment the military force of the country, in order to give effect to the measures Vi . hich should be adapted. Ile trusted the state r)! t ins which he had laid before the House would shew ;hat this augmentation of force had bee+) efrected in the mode Most consonant with the public interest, and the least expensive to the State. lleyond what had been done and proposed, it was grettlying to find that the restoration of tranquillity would render further defence unnecessary. But much would depend on the firtrt resolution of Government, and of the property of the country, to maintain the authority of the laws, and to show the disaffected, that, in proportion as they in creased their efforts against the Constitution of the country, the friends of that Const lint ion tinge merit ed their efforts in its defence. Nathing now remained for birn to do, but to explain the views of Government with respect to the duration of the measures which they now proposed. When the Legislature called upon the subject to sohmi• to a certain abridgment of their right to encounter a particular emergency, it could only require a tem porary sacrifice of those rights. It was on this groomd that when his Majesty's Ministers had felt them . selves compelled to propose the Suspension of lite Ilebeas Corpus Act, it had only been for a time, He was happy to say that such a measure was not at present in contemplation. Those which were re rominendell did not tend to the suspension of any ri L lo, but to preient the abuse of a liVbt ; it wos iherefore evident that the ease required a different pol.ev to he adopted, and that instead of temporary palliatives, the remedies should be per- Menent iii t heir nattite 'With respect to the third ineafure, !mottled on the Act of 1812, and giving extreoldinaly power to toe Magistrates to search fin arms, it would he only local anti tempo rary. But if be distinctly nuderstood the nit ore of the rest, and in particular of that intended to repress seditious Meetings, it appeared to him that, ttieV should ire made permanent. He was nor:areal e the, they infringed on any political right. He believed them not to touch the liberty of the Press, but on the contrary to protect them. He shout therefore not propose that they should be Until ed in point of time. He did not mean to deny, however, that should rite Country come hack to its ancient Constitution, by the game Dow carried on hating been defeated and grown hop.-less, those laws might become so inap plicahle as to remain ail useless record on our Stiiete Books. But if Bills narrow ed the tights of the Country in nothing, but out the con trary protected them, is s interests would be in pre(' by rieir being made temporary. This had already been experienced on homer occasions, when temporary laws had liven applied to the evils of the times. Had riot individuals watched for the rising -of Parliament, or the expiration of tho se to resume their various and illegal courses ? Parliament could give no greater secu rity to the country than by recording these mea sures without limitations. It was called upon to resist the wild principles prevalent in this and other Collullies to farm a defence rotund the Cost. stitntion, and to raise a barrier against its enemies. How long were the prosperity, the industry, and the true liberty of the people, to be perplexed with agitation by those men ? Let the House look at existing difficulties in the face. Let it adopt a permanent system—he meant as permanent as was she character of the evil ; he asked nothing more. It Parliament affixed limitations to tits present measures, what agitation would they not prepare in future for the country ! Let therefore no limitation be enacted, but let it he left to the wisdom and prudence of the country, when these laws should be found useless to repeal them. At present, he believed they would prove its safeguard. He regretted that he should have been compelled to trouble the House at such length—( Hear, hear, from all sides)—and should conclude by requesting leave to bring in a Bill, first for more effectually preventing Seditious Meetings and Assemblies, and afterwards one for the better Regulation of the Press. The others should be introduced into another place—(Hear, hear, bear !) The first question having been read front the Chair, Mr. TIERgEY said he should rise with much embarrassment if the Housetexpected, that, taken as he ne cessarily bad been, he should be prepared to go into a gene ral discussion on the variety of matter introduced by the Noble Lola into his speech. That Noble Lord had no authority to state that this side of the House had gone beyond the Ad dress in the Amendment which they had proposed. He (Mr. 'l'.) had only said that all must depend on the necessity shown. He did not deny the possibility of a case being wade out to justify the propriety of new measures. lint be thought. the House would not perform its duty if it sanctioned thrm before such a ea , e had been made out, which he contended had not been effected. All that was before the House was the notoriety of certain proceedings; but of the grounds and motives of those proceedings, it knew absolutely nothing; and he must say that hr had never seen a s n ore garbled and mutilated account.--(Hear, hear'. from the Opposition.) The Noble Lord had confessed that the mass of the people was sound and untouched with the spirit of dissaffection he asserted that at this moment the internal trade of the country was perfectly good, and that with respect to its k ritin trade, nothing was to be apprehended except from the circunistanres in winch America found herself. When all was tints made to wear a face of happiness around us, it turned out on a sudden, that this blest and posperous nation ought to sacrifice her Constitution on the altar of her safety. Ail the laws that had protected her hitherto, all her rights, and all her institutions, suddenly lost their power, and in addition to ten thousand new sulditrs corps of militia and armed associations must be formed to protect this thin 'jilting country. This it was to be nourishing in the sense of the Noble Lord Let the infatuated Radicals, let Hunt and is compeers look at the results of their own proceedings, and see the people about to be delivered, bound band and foot. It had bcen said that the Whigs had been excluded from power during fifty years. That was true, and this was a proof of it. Their opponents had managed the affairs of the State during that period, and had hrought them to the present pass, where nothing but disaf 4,c:riot' was said to exist, and trace laws must be enacted for its repression—laws founded on principles directly opposed to the Constittit,on.—Thuse laws were to the tturnher of five. With respect to that affecting the right of traversing, he con that his mind was open to information. Incuovenien des night have resulted from the present state of that right, 511(1 the alteration proposed might prove useful. Bitt tie woutd approach with caution and awe any change in the I.nig-e•tablished law of the country. With respect to the Pill a Uthcal fig a beard; for arms, dot the Noble Lord meals say, that an Euglishman had no longer a right to keep ~.21s fur his own defence ? Such a doctrine mentioned 20 ag., would hate caused the ;: iloude to shudder. Even were armed torties m welling through th, land, it could scarcely be borne as a temporary riteasure.—(Here Lord Castlereagh stated across the. Table that it was `in tended to he both local and tempurary.)---The night Hon. Gentleman then admitted, that it might be proper to en act a law to prevent drilling; hut then it must be carefully expressed, that it Was drilling tar military purposes. Ifs complained that the new regulations proposed concerning public meetings would put sit nd to that...got-id Wilitle:o . ne spirit under -.ie influence of which the country had flourished for so natty ages. The meetings had been confined to certain counties, but the new regulations were to be general; this he considered both impolitic and unjust. When the Nutrle Lord had spoken of ripe:ring a new system, he hoped it woith have been olio of conciliation, but it turned out to be one of force and coercion which would aggravate instead of removing ex isting evils. By preventing men from spout hag nonsense from waggons and they would he turned . into real cols 51111'ilt ors, :mod the property of the country would never be so nmeh exposed as by the adoption of the course proposed. lie contended that notwithstanding the assertions of the Noble Lord, his olject was to deprive the nation of the broad li berty of the press. But it MIS in safe hands, for it was in its own, and he trusted such lights would be thrown ii?on the subject as woad prevent the Noble Lurd from being able to carry his point. He complained that it had bean said no dis tress existed except that occasioned lyy the situation of Ame rica. and reprobated the addition made to the Army. He re commended to the Country to use the right of meeting, whilst it still continued unshackled, and to send a strong ex pression of its feelings to the House. If this was not clone, and the House passed - the new laws proposed wit hoot more evids-ace of their necessity, he had lived long enough in that aturcould Ere of no more service to the country. He wou ld continue to give his vote, hut not sacrifice himself as he had hitherto done. He conclutied, by recommending that some effort slsould be mad:. to conciliate the people. Lard CASTLEB.EAGIS explaitred. Lord FoLiccrorla hoped the 1-fonse.would stand isy the Constitution, and would not see the pillars on which it st.,,ml [stifled down. by audacious hands.—(Hear, hear, hear ')--He contended, that the sole object of the Noble Lard was to lay down the Liberty of the Press, and to pre vent all sorts of meetings. He objected to the abolition of the tight of traversing on charges of misdemeanors, and complained that whilst. it had hero acknowledged that dis atTeetion Lad only broken out in particular parts, the mea sures proposed should lie made general anti permanent. They also asserted, that the injurious and atheistical libels so long and so widely circulated required to be stopped. If they thought so„why had they not prosecuted them ? Why had they suffered them tui proceed so far without interrup tion ? Why, hot that they wish, d to get a case of excess, which should enable Ovum to put down the liberties of the press? This was the design of Ministers, who never desired either to stop these putrlieations or the Manchester urectiog ; and With respect to the latter, as he contended might he de duced from internal evidence its the Magistrates' letter, wished the proceedings to go on that they !night arrest Mr. Hunt in the face of the multitude. They let the mischief gr.uw--. bey stuffs-real the storm to gather, till they thought it would he sufficient to alarm Parliament and the peow,te, and so induce them to allow those trammels and measures to he Unposed which were destructive of the liberties of the country. Upon t call for the question, Mr. BROUGHAM rose to state why be was averse to t Ake the sense of the House on the present occasion. These measures consisted so much in detail, and parts wets so little before them, and they were so little aware of the shape and extent of the momentous plan to put down public meetings, that it was impossible to come to a right determination. There did appear grounds for the utmost suspicion. It was proposed that before Englishmen could meet to discuss their rights, t hey must consolt all abstract of the population of the parish iii which they lived, to ascer tain if they could assemble to the number of 10,000, They !mew nut win-ther this law was to extend to tavern, or charity, or Bible Society meetings. It was that they might !rive a dainite idea of those matters that. he implored Gen .!e rotund ilia] to stiffer the Noble Lord to proceed ;:et, further, acid bring in the Bills. Then—auless be Loind them accompanied Icy aft the cheeks and limitations which they seemed so mach to need, anti unless securities were given to the people—he would oppose this unconstitutional and uneng tucasure ix lobo; and even if such checks securities were hromeht forward, lie would reserve it to him. self to offer what opposition lie thought fit - With regard to the other measures against the press, admitting that the mis chief existed, and that smut: steps might he necessary, still he would objeCt to the new scheme of :arbitrary power, which he was ready to contend would, while it checked the gooc, afford tic> protection against the bad, or remedy for the evil. Lord HANCLIFFB wlts wore in all , of ex pressing his opinion by his votes than by speeches, but in consequence of what had fallen front the Learned I.;entlesuan, he would not press a division. Ile must say, however, that in his enlist:4:llcl! he asougut these measures unjustiSoble %ant nit notts. _ _ --••----- LJAma had heard the propomi-n of the Noble Lovii with the same horror as other Gentlemen neat him. He wished to ash hi,u, n rather the Smicitor-Clencial, i t the power to traverse was taken away, whether they would of the people one scintilla of cowpensation, and remove at the same time the Attorney-Geller:6's power f holding ex r!//ifio iiiformations for any lerigth of tin, over the heads of those thrraten , il with prosee-ntion. They had an opportuni ty of offering some tquivalent for the s,rerity of the one enactment by withdrawing the other severity No answer heing given to this question, the Gallery was ared fur a division, but the leaders of !he Opposition went away, and the oihers did not press the motion. We under stand t kat the Bill (far inure effectually preventing Seditious Meetings and Asseni!divs) was lirongia in and lead a first time, and the st‘ond reading fixed fur Thursday.—Adjuumed. LAW INTELLIGENCE. COULVL' OF KING'S BENCH, Nov. 29. OLDHAM INQUEST. THR KING V. VARRAND, ESQ. rkr ,Aar. oer j eant Coss rose to sliew cause 91411103 t the rule for a Mali irons to COMpel the detendaut, one of the C"roners of the County of Lancaster, to proceed with the Inquest on the body of Leea, who was alleged to have lout his lite by violence o n the 16th of August last, at Manchester, anti the Learned Counsel having proceeded at some length upon the merits of the case, The COURT called upon Mr. Denman and Mr. 'Tindal, who were on the oilier side, to Bhew first, whether the inquest in question was legal in its commencement ; and, second, supposing it %vas not, whether it bad been made so by the subse quent proceedings of Mr. Farraod. From the statement of the case at the bar, it appeared that the Inquest had been at first summoned and sworn by the defendant's Clerk or Deputy, upon view of the burly of the deceased, and atter sit ting several days the proceedings were taken up by the defendant, who upon an objection being taken bad the body exhumed, and, contenting him self with looking at its face, resumed the loqtrest without re-swearing the Jury. Now, by law, the Inquest could not originally have been held by the Coroner's Deputy. Then, had the Coroner's sub sequent conduct legalised the proceedings ? Cer taiely not. The law required the Inquest to be held super visum corpus—the Coroner and Jury be ing present at the same time. This had riot taken place, and as the proceedings were illegal ob what subsequently occurred would not remove the objection. It was the duty of the Coroner when he personally interposed, to have seen the body in the presence of the Jury—to have the Jury re sworn, ant: all the witnesses re-sworn and re examined.—This had not been clone, and there fore the Court could not grant a Mandamus to proceed in an inquest which might he afterwards quashed upon being returned into this Court. Mr.DNtiMAN and Mr. TINDAL confessed that they were t:Alleu by surprise by the course ‘vhich the C4se had taken; but they submitted :Lat it was not necessary for the Coroner and the Jury to see the body at the same time. The COURT, however. reiterated the above men tinned opinion, and discharged the Rule, oh ssiv ing, that no injustice would be done in the result, as the G►and Jury of the County was open for further inquity ; or a Commission of Magis trates might be appointed to inquire of the death of the party.—Rule discharged. THEATRICAL REGISTER. Performed Last Night. THLEA rRE ROYAL, DfLURY-LANE.—King Richard the Third : Richatd, Mr. Kcan -Earl of Richniurod, Mr. Elliston; Eliza beth, Mrs. Glover; Lady Anne, Mrs. W. West. After which, Lock and Key. TEMATRE ROYAL., COVENT-GARDEN.—Coe.olanns: Caius Mar cius Coriolanus, Mr. Macready ; Volulitnia, Mrs. Faucit. After which, Aladdin. Sr. ANngsw.—A Holiday at the Bank, Exchequer, East India, and South Sea Houses. MAILS. ARRIVEL-1 Dublin. I Waterford, I Holland, I France. DUE—I Gotteuburgb, I Lisbon, I Hawburgh. HIGH WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE TO-MORROW. Morning, 34 minutes after 1. I Evening, 4 mmutes after 2, THE SUN. SOLESI QUIS DICERS FALsUNI A UDEAT ? LONDON, TUESDAY, hOVEMBER 30, 1819. We received this morning the Paris Papers of Saturday last. The following are extracts : " Ptiats, Nov. 27.—The King did not go oat yesterday on account of the unfavourable weather. His Majesty transacted business with M. Pasquier, the new Miniiter for Foreign At - - tails. " Marshal Macdonald arrived at Paris on Thursday, and had an audience of the King. FIVE PER CENTS. Friday 68 f. 75- c. DEFERRED STOCK Of the 22ti March, 1817, 9l f. 55c. 24t1 Sept. 1247, B9f. 22d March, 1818, B7 f. 55c. tid Sept. 1818, B5 f. 55 c. 22d March,lBl9, B3 f. 55 c. 22d Sept. 1819,. Bl f. 60e. " MADRID, Nov. 15.—State of Health in An- dahisia : AT CADIZ. Deaths. Sick. Nor. 5, V, 7, 8, ISLA DII LEON. Nov. 4, ARSENAL OF CAREACA. Nov. 3, 4? PORT ST. NARY. Nov. 6, XE:tEZ. Nov. 7, ROTA. Nov. 7, SAN LUCARI Nov. 2 to 4, CHICLANA. Nov. 4, SE V ILLB. Noy. 3,4, S, and 6, ....... 7 The communications b•st night by Lord SID• MOUTH, in the House of Louis, !tad by Lord CASTLEREAGH ) iu the House of Commons, of the leizislative measures deemed necessary for the sup port of the British Constitutionin Church and State, must afford a solid satisfaction to the minds of all wire and good men. The measures proposed are, indeed, essential to the existence of Government, and the preservation of the riglits and liberties of the People, which otherwise might be wholly buried in the gulphs of Anarchy. It has justly been observed by our acute and iLtelligent COIN reliondent TEN AN, that whatever is rendered ne cessary for the preservation of the Constitution cannot be unconstitutional. Far otherwise—it must be positively Constitutional, for the C0113Ii• swion m o a t necessarily contain within itself the principles essential to its own preservation. The restrictions proposed to be laid on Tuzz "'Russ can alarm none but bad men, who wish to sub slat by BLASPHEMY and TREASON; and can any man who knows the blessings of RELIGION, GOOD ORDER, and a PROTECTING GOVERNMENT, object to such Restrictions, and not rather rejoice that Re ligion, Morality, and a propar respect for the best Political System which any Nation ever enjoyed should be secured from the assaults of open vio• knee or artful circumvention ? No.—We have now the hope that our Altars will not be profaned by ATHEISM, nor oar hearths invaded by RE 13ELLION, which, under the pretence of Reform, has nothing less in view than a visionary equaliza tion of Property throughout the Empire, which would inevitably be productive of universal ruin and misery.—We should be sorry to find that Lurch GUASY took so adverse a part against the proposed measures last night, it his sliced' had not drawn forth such irresistible arguments from Lord Livetteoot. in defence of them, founded upon the most 6101ALIdS a as cumpletely re- . Fuzed all that the former Nobleman had said, MY! must have satisfied any mind, not disturbed so u warped by the zeal of Party. We have received Quebec Gazettes from the sth to the 21st of October, for the contents of wUteb we have no room this day. The Company's ships Windsor Castle and G ed neral Kyd arrived at Madras the 12th June, afte r a very favourable passage ; thry were expected t ° proceed on their vol age to China about the JO August.—lt is reported that the Charles Grant and Low►her Castle sailed from Bombay for China ou the 9th July, and that the other Bombay an d China ships would follow the next spring. THE THEATRE.—The part of Coridanes wa s assumed last night at Covent-Garden Theatre, by Mr. MACREADY. His performance was veer creditable to his talents, and to those who did not witness Mr. KEMBLE'S exhibition of the chat , racier, one of the most perfect achievements ( 7 ' theatrical power, must have appeared U' gre at advantage. Mr. MACREADY had every reason t o be satisfied with the general reception, but WC d ou bt not that be has too much good sense 10 rely on the judgment of those Critics who sto p the au lience with " Bravo," and wave their hat s in ,testimony of admiration. Such admiration must be imputed to juvenile ignorance and sillf enthusiasm. EGERTON, at the end of the ploy' came forward to announce the next performance i t but he was insultingly obliged to retire by a cle morons call for MactieAoy, who (Len discharge d the du y with modest dith.lence. its ROYAL COEOURG THEATRE --A new Ito. - la , dram was exhibited lost night at this Theatre' tinder the title of Beauty and the Beast, or Th t Magic Rose . 3 it is entitled to a much more favou r ; able description than we have room to give, 3 "/ we have only to say, that in magnificence 1 scenery, decorations, dresses, & c. &c. it Las sci` dom been quilled. DuRL.-A meeting took place yesterday WW I : ing, on wormwood Setubhs, between a Coral° F—k—y arid a Mr. J--y; when the latter vg° dangerously wounded in the left side on the se' cond fire. Mr. J— was removed to London, but the ball has not been extracted. • COUNT ITTERBURG.—The heir of the c fett GUSTAVUS, Ex King of Sweden, is now in 1 1 1 city, where we learn he is to r e s id e f or sever°. months, with a view to tie furtherance of 1 I education. During his incognito his tit le is CoRI ITTERISURO, under which appellation his a rrive' has been announced in the papers. He is ac: companied by Baron POLIER. This illustrio lw stranger, our readers will be reminded, is De phe f to the Emperor ALEXANDER of Russia. He a young man of 19 or 20, and is of a manly O w modest address.—( Edinburgh CO4rant, Nov. 20 MR. KINLOCH OF KINLoCH.—We tinderstau llt that in consequence of a charge of sedition 1)0 44 been preferred against GEORGa KlNLockt, 8 54 : of Kinloch, one of his Majesty's Justices of W I : Peace for the county of Perth, and a precogc w tion having taken place before the Sheriff of Fa r ' fat-shire, Mr. KINLUCH, hearing of the circa.; stance, attended at Dundee on Monday last, a s s gave bail for his future appearance to answer ti' d charge. This Gentleman, it will he lememberq presided at the meeting of Radical Reformers bf a h at Dundee on Wednesday se' Anight Courant, Nov. 27.) THR ROYAL EDINBURGH VOLUNTEERS.---l i f LORD PRovosT received a letter from Lord St' MOUTH on Thursday, containing the P R INCE 1111 . : GENT'S acceptance of the offer of service fra y the officers of the late First, or Royal EdinboN Volunteers. The regiment is to consist of rank and file. DEATH BY FIGHTING,—A desperate toi tt .r, fook Elate on Sunday morning, in White Coloi t ' i te fields, between two young men of respect able cf , nexions, named CHAPMAN and BRoprucK, the latter received a blow on the ear, which tr oj urinated in his death. CHAPMAN and the sec ° of BRontucts. are in custody, till the decision ~ • Coroner's Jury is known. Mr. WILLIAM LAMBE was yesterday ele ct „.. ej Member for the County of Hertford, witbou t .7 o position, in the room of the late represeota t ' Mr. BRAND, who iS now Lord DAUBS. 10 ' The misunderstanding that lately ex iste d tweets this country and the French Post-office ,1 el specting the postage of newspapers, is satisfac lor „ arranged. The English Papers are now sent ris usual to all parts of France ; the expence is two francs each paper. - Some Gentlemen of Edinburgh have takem tl ( ' celebrated calculating boy, BIDDER, under tliel protection, and mean to give him a College edd; cation. They also gave his father a sum of 1 09e1 to take home to his family. 0 ,16 1 Y r e ° esterday evening a respite, during his I " t i Highness the PRINCE RFGENT'S pleasure, 1 1 ' 35 - 00 Ce!Ved by the Keeper of Newgate, for\Vm. pe ter. ). and John Andrews, convicted of a highw a y r°,) e hery, and who were to have suffered the sentell' of the law this morning.—A further resPiteieo l e been received, during the PRINCE REGENT'S P l .-05 Sure, for William Fletcher, o ne of the P ers°, who was to have suffered on Friday last , but re spited on the preceding day for one BIRTHS. 01 In Will-street, the Lady of Henry Brougham, Esti' 11 ` a daughter. m • ess Ou riursday morning . last, the Itizbt Hon• coo . l Brownlow, of a daughter, at Belton House, Linco ln DIED. v . si , 0 Last Wednesday, of a rapid decline, whilst on 3 . ' 're' Spark Brook Loifge, near Birmingham, in Ilea - ,ISLI Ye 3 '.., 1 , the H resa, the wife of Robert owse, of Hammer smith. i d- I s ` tree t, County of .\liddlesex, Esq. fort:telly of New 1:" London. • Pg' , th , Yesterday morning . , in the sick ward of Lan 3 ` )e- s sth o °it . - ' !loose, Lieutenant Henry Bowerman, late a th t giutent. __ --. at LoNDON: Printed by.. B. CARSTAIRS, of IST°' ," ii; Ormond-street, Queen-square; and published :.,' OO „ SCRIPPS, of No. 7, South I\l.lton-street , at ' orJei" (Mice, No. 11'2, Strand ; w h ere Ad rei tisenten to t Letters ) &c. (posi-paill) autit. IN. aUresscd* '~'. , ./ p N tit tile "IPtild / 1 4 i or Colin 0 ; A' ibt Cr i ,r l4 W t 'pal lIIP j • R, To, —rn citr:,to the), wit turue