The Sun. — London, England, 1849-07-11 00:00:00

FRANCE. The Natioral says :—" The political friends of General de Larcoriciere asserted at the Assembly on Saturday that the gallant officer had positively re fused the appointment as Ambassador at St. Peters burgh. The assertions acquire a certain degree of probability, when coupled with the last vote of Gentr , .l Lamoriciere on the affairs of Germany, and his retusal to succeed General Oudinot in the coin mand of the army of Rome. When the policy of a Ministry is so frankly condemned it is not unusual for a man to accept a confidential mission under it. , e read in the Siecle :—" There are some facts so odious, that it is necessary to be doubly sure before we can venture to publish them. For the last two days the fact which we are about to mention has been repeated to• us, but we could not believe it. To day, however, all kind of doubt has disappeared, and we can speak. An order has been given, by whom we know not, but we affirm that the order has been given to a police accent to establish him self en permanence in the gallery of the ex-repre sentatives." The Civil Tribunal, on Saturday, decided that owing to the absence of M. Ledru Rollin, Mme. Ledru Rollin should be allowed to receive without his authorisation his rents and revenues. The Patrie says it has received a letter from Brus sels announcing that M. Bixin, M. Ledru Rollin, and M. E. Arago arrived in that city on the morning of the 7th. The two latter bore false names, and it eras said would not remain long in the town. M. Ledru Rollin had, acc ording to this letter, escaped from France in the disguise of a waggoner, and took a third-class place on the railway. The Patrz . e, how ever, does not pledge itself to the truth of this state ment, and the Brussels journals make no mention of anything of the kind. ITALY. The Contemporaneo of Rome, of the 28th ult., says that the f ireigners serving under the Roman Re. public, and who are not Italians, do not exceed 268 men. The Italians who aro not of the Roman States do not exceed 3,000 men. MORTALITY in the METROPOLIS. NUMBER. OF DEATHS FROM ALL CAUSES REGISTERED IN THE WEEK ENDING SATUIIDAY, JULY 7, 1849. Epidemic, Endemic, and Contagious Diseases Diseases of Uncertain Seat Tubercular Diseases ... I)iscases of the Brain, Nerves, and Senses... Diseases of the Heart and Blood-vessels ... 38 I)ki.ase3 of thu Lungs, and other Organs of geipiration ••• ,•• Diseases of the Stomach, Liver, and other Organs -.*393 ~. 36 -. 173 -. 115 of I )igt-stion... •.. ••• Diseascs of the Kidno)s, &c. ... ••• Chihibirib, Diseases of the Uterus, $--). ••• Diseate4 of the Joints, Bones, u.nd lu3cles Dis-_ , a,ei of the Skin, &c. ••• ••• ••• Maifortay.irms... ••• . ••• ••• ... PrQillature Binh ••• ••• •• Atrophy ••• ••• ••• ••• ••• 01,1 Age ... ••• ... ••• Sudden'... ••• ••• .. ••• ••• Violence, Privation , C old, or Intemperance (jauies not specified ••• ••• Di:ATII3 FROM ALL CArSES 1,070 Population Average weekly Deaths . - Enumerated, Deaths, 1844-3 in the 1441 Five Springs. Week. We'l. Dlstricti... 300,711 .. 147 ... 130 North D.,tricts.. 375.971 .. 191 ... 196 (.!,[Ol-411)1,striets 373,653 ... 183 ... IS3 E,i-st.. I).n'ricts ... ::112,444 ... 227 ... 194 b..A.C.h IJiatrict3.. 501,190 ... 260 .., 367 r;405..• ..... 1,9-13,369 ... 1,003 eruales BIRTHS IN THE WEEK. Males Female* ... ... 1,070 ... 566 ... 504 635 642 Total ... • • ... ...1,277 * In this number are included 152 cases of death by Cholera, 43 by Searlstina, and 46 by Typhus Fever. Dividend 1 Amount Name of Company. per of Paid. PM e. Annum. \ Share. ----- . 1 £ s. d. , X 3. d. Anion -•••••• •• •• • • i 31. 10s 500 0 0 50 0 0 75 Alliance Brit. and For. 1 71. 4s. lid. 100 0 0 11 0 0 183, Ditto Marine••• •• •• ' 61. per cent. 100 0 0 5 0 0 - Atiati . British Commercial ••7s. per share i5OOO 1 5 0 0 5N Clericl,Med.S3Gen.Life spr ct.& be. jlOO 0 0 10 0 0 19 31. 1100 0 0; 10 0 0 1 65 . 14s. 50 0 0 1 5 0 0 - E“le -.• •• ...... •••• 6s. 50 0 0 ' 5 0 0 5% at,;.BcScot.LaW •••• 51. per cent. 50 0 0 , 2 12 6 i - iropean Life -•• •• 5% per cent. 20 0 0 ' Ail paid. 1 10 Family Entiowmrt Suc. 41. 2/4 bs. 100 0 0 4 0 0 1 - ' eeniasons' .• • • ... • . 61. per cent. 20 0 0 , 3 0 0 1 - GI ~e - 1 125 G ..tali an ...... •• •• • • 51. 1 100 00;3610 0 1 49 Imperial Fire ...• •••• 121 per ccnt.!soo 0 01 50 0 0 220 Liiperial Life •• • • •-• • 123. 100 0 0 ' 10 0 0 15 Indennity Marine •• 11.311.8 z bs. 100 0 0 1 1 bl 3 1 - Law Fire ...... •••• • • - 100 0 0 1 2 10 0 2% L...w I tie- --•• •• 11.165. 100 00\10 0 0 4l Le ;a1 and General Life - 50 0 0 20 0 4l Upicicn Fire ••-•• • • 10s. 25 0 0,12 10 0 1574 Lon•lon Snip • ..• •• •• 103. 25 0 0112 10 0 15% ifarine - ••••••• •• .. 12s per share 100 0 0 1 lb 0 0 95%. 5/15d. Invlid&Gen.Lite tsi. per et.. 50 0 0 1 2 0 0 2% gational Lean Fund.. 51. per cent. 20 0 0 ; 210 0 - s ....tional Life •• • • - I' tliadium Lite 5l. per cent. 50 0 0 1 2 0 0 210 s. Pelican • • • • • • • • • • •• •• - Ptaenia .. 31.p.sh.&bs. -- 1 - - - 142 Pi otector Life •• •• ... 51. per cent. 20 0 0 : 1 0 0 - Life 100 0 0I 10 0 0 26 Rock Life.. ••••• • • • • • 53. 5 0 0 010 0 f , N ;Loyal Fatchanze 6!. per cent. Stock. ! - 210 S*.ui Fire.• - ! - 203 I.itto Life . - ! - 44 Universal Life ION pr cnt. 100 0 0 i 9 0 0 - Victoria Life •• • - 1 40 0 4% MARKET INTELLIGENCE. (From the London New Price Current, July 10.) SUGAR —This afternoon there was a good business concluded in West India Sugar for home trade purposes, as there were sellers of all sorts rather under Friday's rates, and the market was more abundantly supplied. Two public sales of Barbadoes, consisting of 317 hilds 71 tierces and 41 barrels went off quietly at a reduction of 61 per cwt. and rather more than half sold, fine yellow went at 403 6.1 to 41s 61, middling to good 38s to 403, and low abs 6d to 37s ed per cat. The total purchases are 860 rinds, &c , and the market closes with a quiet aspect. REFINED —To-day the Refined Sugar market presented a firm aspect, and there was a good business concluded, brown lumps at 51s to 51s 61, and fair grocery 52a to 52s 6d per cwt. Bonded Crushed Sugar met with a better sale at 28s 61 to 29s per cwt, and the market has a firmer aspect. MAURITIC3.—This afternoon the market was mere freely supplied with Mauritius Sugar, and at the public sales prices declined 64 per cwt for grocery sorts, whilst refieing kinds nearly sustained the former value. The total quantity offered ameunted to 7,339 bags, and nearly the whole sold. Fine and very fine yellow went at 39s 61 to 42s 6:1, geod 383 61 to 393, middling 37s to 38s, low 36s to 36s 6:1, good and fine brown 34s 6d to 353 6d, low to middling 32s 6d to 31s, low to fine grey 364 tt :39s per cwt. EAST INDIA.—This afternoon there were six public sales of Bengal Sugar, comprising 8,660 bags; the chief portion consisted of white and grainy kinds, and about one-half sold at a reduction of 6d per cwt, strong white went at 44s 63 to 46s 61, superior 47s to 48s, low and 111;.'fl1:::Ig white Benares 39s to 40s, good to fine 40s 6d to 425, good and fine soft yellow 37s 6d to 395, low and middling 333 to 36s 6d. Of Madras 600 bags went at 39s to 39s 6d for good strong yellow, and at 40s for fine —these are steady rates. Foitteasi.—This afternoon at public sale 74 bags of Pernaelbuco Sugar went at 413 for middling grey, and 37a for low. 30 baskets Java, ordinary grey 40s to 41s. 746 bags Zanzibar, middling and ordinary brown 33 s 6 d to 34563, and middling yellow 36s per cwt; these are rather lower rates. Privately little business was con eluded in Foreign Sugar by exporters. A cargo of brown Cuba sold at 193 6d. MOLASSES,—This afternoon Molasses were dealt in with caution, and at public sale 101 pkgs were mostly taken in, Barbadoes and Antigua at 20s. COFFEE.—This afternoon Plantation Ceylon Coffee met with little attention, and at public sale 15 casks 1,003 bags were only in part sold at rather lower rates, good and fine at 65s to 70s, middling 51s to 555, low middling 48s to 493, fine and fine fine ordinary 403 to 47i 61 triage 33s to 36s 6d, pea berry 54s to 61s, and d imaged 333 61 to 37a 63. Native was not more in de mand,. and 120 bags at auction were taken in at 354 63 to 36s for good quality. For arrival, however, 5,000 bags have b - en sold at 35s to 35s 61. Cocee.—British Plantation is much wanted by home dealers, and the rates paid are fully equal t those on this (ley week, whilst the supply is not so large. Red Trininl id has been held with firmness at 43s to 51s, and grey 403 to 433 per cwt; the consumption is also upon a more extended scale. For Foreign the market is zitl quiet at 27s to 2Ss 6d per cwt. TEA.—To-day the public sale of ,Tea amounted to 13,000 packages; there was a fair demand, and 2,600 found purchasers at full rates, indeed ord Congou went rather higher, and realised 8/4 to Bid per lb. Rms.—To-day a public sale of 2,730 bags of Bengal Rice in bond went at rather lower rates—good white selling at 9a 6d to 103, and damaged 8s to 84 6d ; but 140 bags duty free were taken in at 91 for low white. The market for Rice has a dull aspect. SPlCES.—Pimento is eagerly sought after, and stiffer rates are obtained; the supply is not larger. Privately, several parcels have been disposed of at 3id to 40. Cloves are dealt in with greater readiness, and stiffer rates are obtained, whereas of superior I kinds the supply remains small. Nutmegs have been in excellent request, and realised rather higher rates. At auction 48 cases 1 box 2 bags were sold at from 3s 6 , 1 to Ss lld for fine brown, and 2s 6d to 3s 5d for common to good. The value of limed is 2s to 2s 9d. Mace is wanted, and stiffer prices are paid ; 11 cases at auction told at 2s 3d to 2s 4d for mid, and 13 Ild to 2s 21 for damaged. For Jamaica Ginger the home demand is good, and prices are well supported, whilst 60 pkgs at aucion_all found buyers at .51 5s to 8/ lls for mid to tine, and inferior 775. Su perior sorts of East India are wanted, and would co or m ta ma tion nd stiff rates, but there is still a sc ant y supply for exp kinds; the market is quiet, and 21s to 263 is the value, still there is not a larger supply. African is in fair request at 33s to 38s. and is rat her scarce. For Cassia Lignea there is a &.'n market, and more has been offered at auction; there are several buyers, and 903 to 96s is the v alue. The market for Cinnamon is quiet. Black Pepper is less in demand, and at auction 1,751 bags Malabar sold at 3'd t o 3.11 far shot; these are rather lower rates; 102 bags and casks Zanzibar went a t higher rates; fine 70.3 to 715, common 423, and damaged 36s to 37s per cwt. CocittNeil.—The parcels submitted to public sale, anioaiiiing to 100 bags, ware only in part sold; silvers ord to good at Si 73 to 4, ld, black 3s 7d to s 4 2d, Mexican, good ord silvers 3s 7d, and bl ac k fair to mid 3e 8 1 Co 3s 103. SPIRITS. —Brandy is not so much in demand, y e t heidersiremain firm, and ask fully former rates, as home trade deliveries continue upon a large scale. Geneva is held with firmness at 13 9d to is 103 and 2s 3d to 3s 33 per gall. To-day Rum was dealt in with greater rea s li. ;less, and at stiffer rates. Proof Leewards were sold at Is 51 to Is 6d, East India Is Si to Is 41, and Mauritius at is 3i:l per gall, NDIGO.—The quarterly i,ale of East India commenced this day. 13. Yore the opening, and during the progress Gf the sale, 2,127 chests were withdrawn; 634 chests have passed the sale to Av. Good and fine sorts went off id and heavily, averaging barely the last sale's rat defective sorts from 3s 3i to 3 s 9J, however, s; m have been in fair demand, and may be quoted '2d higher, whilst ord and l w remain without alteration. A few chests of Ma-lr.s and Kurpahs brought the last sale's valuation. TALl:o*.—There are few purchasers of Russian on the soot for town or country consumption, and a desire i s eeieced to Sell fine P. Y. Candle at 333 to 383 31 per hiht prices tend downwards. For delivery in the lest three quarter 3 of the year sellers are ready to ac cept 33 64 to 353 9d', etilla* buyer§ are to be met with. Holm indeed is onred at the moderate rate of 36s to 373 net cash on the spot, still little business has been con cluded, and the supply is large. Of New South Wales 80 casks were sold at auction at 34a 63 to 375; 193 casks and 720 boxes South American 33s to 39,; 22 pkgs Cape 46s to 37', fine 41s; 7 casks Gibraltar 41s to 32. ; 12 casks Italian 37s 6d to 37s 9d; 18 casks Zanzibar 33s 3d to 345, and 23 casks Bermuda 324 9d to 335 6d per cwt lower than at this time in the former year. For auction 1,000 pkgs of Tallo w are declared. Rough Fat is still 2s 11 per stone. Ons.—Southern—At auction 120 tuns were sold at 291 to 311 15s for mid to fine, and at 261 ti , 281 for ord. Of Sea Elephant 135 tuns went at 301 to 311 for first and second sort. Sales to a fair extent have been made privately in Cod at 271 103 to 271 15s, and there is a firm market. For pale S-al the rates paid are 301 10s to 311 for arrival, and 311 103 to 321 on the spot. Business to a fair extent has been concluded in other sorts; straw and tinged at 281 lOs to 301, brown and yellow 261 103 to 231. Sperm at auction 136 tuns were sold at 74/ 5s to 75/15s for fine Colonial, and 761/or Headmstter. For Linseed Oil ship pers have been buyers to a fair extent at 35s 9d to 26s per cwt. There has been little passing for delivery, still the rates asked are 26s to 26s 3d, hut consumption continues upon a large scale. Cocoa Nut at auction 313 pkgs were taken in at 33s to 35s per cwt, and the tendency of prices is still downwards. Olive sellers are willing to accept 391 to 401forGaili poll, 37110 s to 38/10s per tun for other sorts, 51 for Lucca in jars, 17s to 20s for Florence in half chests. Rape Oil has been operated in with caution; pri es firmis alsoa t 293 a t more o3 0 s plentiful ti n e. supply, mid a t whilst pale is offered at 36s 61 to 375, brown 36s to 363 6d, and foreign 38s to 395. Palm has been operated in with more freedom, and the supply is yet smaller, whereas 26i to 283 6i for ord to good. Lard Oil is dull of sale at 36s to 40s. THE SUN LONDONN. WEDNES Y EVEN! NG JULY it PRICES OF SHARES IN BANKS, ASSURANCE, AND OTHER COM• PANIES' STOCK. From the Official List. PUBLISHED EVERY TUESDAY AND I%.tiDAT EVENING. LONDON, TUESDAY, JULY 10. 7OTNT-STOCB BANES. Dividend i Amount Name of Company. ' per 1 of Paid. Pro e. Anniun. ' Share. -- , ------- ----- intralasia .......... I 1125. per shitte l 3ritshiSorth American , st. per cent.; 50 0 0 50 0 0 Ceylon .............. i 71. p:r cent. , 25 Z 4 0 1 0 . d o . fo s o . do— . 0 0 25 0 0 Gimmercial of London 61. per cent. 100 0 0 20 0 0 C )loulal.. • • Glou c estershire ...... \ 151 per cent. , , 61. par cent., 25 0 0 25 0 0 'lOO 0 0 20 0 0 — l..ondri ant Westminstr 1 6/. per cant.l Ditto .• .......• •• • • 13 0 0 Lo _Lion Joint-Stock .• . 6/. per cent. i5OOO 10 0 0 V:ovineiaief Ireland.. ' 61. per cent. 100 0 0 25 0 0 „- , a/_ ner cent. 10 0 0 10 0 0 d. 12s. per shale' 40 0 0 st. per cent. 50 0 71. p;:r cent. 25 0 0 0 61. per r n e c e e nt., 100 0 t. 1100 0 0 11 - ilie e r cent. 61. per cent.; 25 0 0 6/. per cent. 1 100 0 0 61. per - cent.' 50 0 0 61. per cent. 100 0 0 8/. per cent. 10 0 0 51. per cent.; 50 0 0 6/. par cent.!loo 0 0 5/. per cent.' 20 0 0 51. per cent.; 61. per cent.' 25 0 0 6/. per cent.l 61. per cent.' 50 0 0 lO 0 0 25 0 0 20 0 0 13 0 0 10 0 0 25 0 0 10 0 0 22 10 0 35 0 0 10 0 0 22 10 0 25 0 0 2 10 0 10 0 0 40 0 0 Ditto .• .• •• •• Lo _Lion Joint-Stock .• • P:ovineial of Irelan3.• Ditto, New.• . • • • • • • N'itional of Ireland .• Sat. Provneial of Eng. LAW, New. • • • • • • • South Australia .• • • • • of Australia •• •• LTniun of L0nd0n..... Uuion of Madrid ..... INSURANCE COMPANIES. BRIDGES Nama of Company. Dividend Amount per 1 of 1 Annum. Share. iX. 8. d. 1 Charing-cross • • •• .. •• Southwrk,NwSub.Av. ,632 12 2 Ditto Sw of 7% p.c. 355. per cent! 50 0 0 Waterloo .......... • . 100 0 0 Ditto Old Ann. of Si. la. ss. 4d. Ditto Nw =to of Ti. li. 2s. 2d. 1 Vauxhall .... Av. 11. 7O 10 3 DOCM.S. BANK OF FRANCE. The following is a return of the situation of the Bank of France up to July s: ♦ SSETS. Cash and ingots Ditto in branch banks Bills past due ••• Bills falling due in Paris, of which 15 927,012 f. are from the branch . . f. 213,900,119 67 . . 123,020 003 00 .•• ... 19,672 18 banks • ••• ••• ••• ••• Bills in the branch banks ..• ••• Advances on coins and ingots... ... Ditto by the branch banks ... Ditto on French public securities ... Ditto by branch banks... ••• ..• Ditto to the State on Bons du Traor... Ditto on the loan of 150 millions ... Rentes of the reserve fund ... ••• lientes. disposable funds ... ..• Investments of the new branch banks in the public funds ... ••• ••• Hotel and furniture of the Bank ... Real property of the branch banks ... Interest in National Discount Bank ... Ditto branch banks ... .•• Bills protested at Paris ..• Ditto at the branches ... ••• Expenses of administration of the Bank Ditto of the branches .•• Miscellaneous ... .. • •.. •. . Advance to the department of the 47.542,575 07 80,667 857 00 7,227,900 00 900.157 00 22,896.110 40 1.336.715 00 50,000,000 00 50,000,000 00 10.000,000 00 42,581,488 13 12,779.541 39 4.000,000 00 2,223,200 00 200,000 00 230.000 00 5 376 742 09 3,326,349 00 43,829 00 804,332 64 Seine Loan of 3,000,000 f. to the city of Mar seilles ... ••. 3,000,000 00 ... 1,000,000 00 E 683,256,908 57 Z. E. d. 25 0 0 co o 0 40 0 0 Dividend Amount t Name of Compaay. per of Paid. I Price. Annum. Share. .£ s. d. X S. d. East and West 1nd , a... 1 6/. pr cent. Stock. i 132% Esst Country Loa,ion .... • ifritto Bonds ••••• • •• 41. per cent. St. Katharine ........ I 4 per cent. Stock. ,f 1 Ditto, Scrip •.. .1 Ditto 80nd5........ 14341. pr cent. , Southampton •• ...... t 21. per cent. 50 0 0 50 0 0 1 WATER-WORKS. Dividend Amount I Name of Company. per of Paid. Price. Annum. Share. -------;- £ a. d. .0 s. d. East London..• •••• • • • 81. 100 0 0 - 176 Grand Junction ••• • •• 21. 10s. 41 13 4 - 81 Kent.. •• ••••••••••••• , 31. 10s. 100 0 0 - 77 Lambeth •••••• • • • • • • . 1 51. per cnt. 100 0 0 - 99 New Rivr Lndn Brdge 21. 10s. - - 55 Vauxhall ............ N. per cnt. 100 0 0 - 99 West Middlesex . . . 61.05. pr cnt. - - 121 GAS-LIGHT AND COKE COMPANIES. Dividend Amount Name of Company. per of . Paid. i Price. Annum. j Share. I '- A. a. d. L. s. d. 11. 40 0 0 18 0 0 ! 14 Ditto Provincial-. 11. 83. 20 0 0 19 0 0 ' 18 Bristol ••••••• • • • • • t• 101. per cent.; 20 0 0 - 1 - Brighton •••••• • • • • .. 51. percent. 120 0 0 - 1 16 City of London .. •• •• 101. 1100 0 0 100 00 i 150 liontinentalConsolidat. 925. pr share. 50 0 0 39 5 0 1 30 Equitable- ••••• - • • -15 s. pr share' 50 0 0 50 0 0 1 26 Imperial .• ...... •• •• 61. per cent. 50 0 0 50 0 0 ; 606 Independent ....... •• 61. per cent. 40 0 0 40 0 0 I 62% L0nd0n...............- .... •••• • • • • - 150 6 0 SO 0 0 ! 1”.,, - ;50 0 0 50 0 , 22 Phoenix . ............ 51. per cent. ;50 0 0 46 0 0 ! 2 9 Ratcliff .. •• • .. .•.• • • 5/. :100 0 0 90 0 0 ; 75 United General ••• . . • 4 36 1 . pr cent. 50 0 0 50 0 0 1 12% Westminster chartered 31. 1 50 0 0 - I 4i% Ditto. New •••• -• • • 125. 1 50 0 0 10 00 j 9% - - Ch WALLS. Name . of i ' Dividendi N %mes of ! E Dividetid' i ._, C mnpatues. i . 4 , per , ...ce• compania. ti ! per I prv „,_ i v: 1 Annum.' .4 1, Annum. . 1 - eo - ...._ Ashtn & Oldh' 971 i 71. I - Macclesfield . 100 \ 21. 10s. - B arnsley .. • .11601 121. 180 Neath .. .. .. 1001 181. - BrKnk&Abrgllso 51. ' 85 Oxford.... • • 1001 201. - Birminghami 35 41. I 82 Peak Forest. 75 , 31. 18s. - Coventry.... ;100 251. 210 Regent's ••• • 33 ; 11. 58. IS Derby ..... !100 61. 63 Rochdale.... 55 ; 41. 54 EllsifireStC*l33 56*. i 41 Somrset Coal 150 71.105. 130 Erewash •• • ,100 321. - Do.LkFdSt 12161. p. c. - Grand lanctn 100 51. 83 Stirrtil &Wore 140 281. 310 1251 151 ' G ur r a a i n id dS u u ni rr o e n y 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 ;21 1 . 03. 1 2340 sSthortierwberbidngrye....i, 145 201. 300 Grantham ..1150 - ; Severn and 7 _, 21. oc - Kama SG Avul 39 7s. 6d. ' 5% Wye Rail. j' "I Le.3 , ls& Livrp' 100, 301. 310 Warwick& l 100 Leicester .... 1 140 SI. 6334 liirming. j i l 41 . 57 ; 4 Leicetr &Nth; 83 41. 45 Warwick&l Lou4hboroghl 142 701. 650 Napton. •J 100 31. 41 Monmouthsh 100 81. - Worestr & I 78 21. 4l lintgemrysh 100 - - Birming. hieltnlKwbry 100 - - Wilts & lirks, - 11. 1 10 LIST or sawsvisas corizrzmnas. PRICES Dividend Amount ' Name of Company. per of Paid. Price. Annum. Share. ---- - £ a. d. £ s. d Bank of Scotland British Linen Company 81. per cent. 100 0 0 100 0 0 200 Caledonian Bank City of Glasgow Bank . 61. per cent. 10 0 0 10 0 0 11% Clydesdale Bank •• -•• 634 per cent. 20 0 0 10 0 0 13 Commercial Bank •• •• 71. per cent. 500 0 0 1 ,100 0 0 160 Eastern Bank- •• •• •• 61. per cent. 25 0 - 0 10 0 C 91. 7s EdinbAGlasgow Bank 61. per cent. 5 0 0 5 0 0 5% Exehangeßnk of Scot 4l. per cent. 100 0 0 50 0 0 27 Isle of Man. Company 71. per cent. 10 0 0 7 0 0 - National Bank North of Scotlandßank 6 4 1 . p p e e r r c c e e n n t t . . 5 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 6 0 0 0 0 0 3 14 0 % 8. North British Bank - - - - Royal Bank of Scotland W. per cent. 100 0 0 100 0 0 125 Union Bank of Scotland 81. per cent. 100 0 0 50 0 0 RI Western Beak •• ... •• • 21. per cent. 50 0 0 50 0 0 72 Aberdeen Fire and Life 7%1.pr cent. 12 10 0 20 0 au B. Accord. Life and Fire - 20 0 0 010 0 - British Guarantee Ins. 41. per cent. 10 0 0 1 0 0 9s 6d Caledonian Fire Insur. 101• per cent. 100 0 0 10 0 0 21 - 50 0 0 2 0 0 , 2 61. per cent. 25 0 0 2 0 0 21. ls Ed i n b u rgh Life Insur. 6 /. percent. 100 0 Shtuvr(,d of i g a E s i g n o ;:ntr. O 12 10 0 1 ie),‘ - 10 0 0 015 0 I 93.0 d. Eng. & Scot, Law 51. per cent. 50 0 0 2176 1 - flercules Insurance Co. Cast of Scotland L L ii;e ie; O 10 71. per cent. 100 0 0 10 0 0 1 - Life r t ti e s 0 0 c . land AL percent. 10 0 0 1 0 0 11 63 cent. 10 0 0 010 0 3s. 6d. .o(f)figscseetltnd bl. cent. 100 0 Mercantile Life .. •• • • 41 ' per 2os. 6d National Fire and Life 51. per cent. North British Infant. r Cent. 10 0 0 1 0 0 183.3 d North & West of Scot. 61. pe 534 I.pr cent. 200 0 0 20 0 0 ' 23 20 0 0 011 0 Scottish Life and Guar. - Scot. Mas. and Gen. Life - 1 0 0 015 0 i - Scottish Union Inunce. 6 1 41. pr cent. 20 0 0 1 0 2 I 11. ,, 2 4 2 Stan-lard life ...... 51. per cent. 50 0 0 I 5 u United Den. Assurance cl. Tr cent. lil 0 0 0 14s 6d MISCELLANEOUS. Name of Company. Dividend Amount per of ' Paid. Price, Annum. Share. I . --- kustrall an Azricul+nrl - .X. 5 . d. I £.l. d. 100 0 0 I 30 0 0 16 Anglo-Mexican Mint li. 4s. 10 0 0 110 0 0 - Ditto, Half Shares - - . 2 10 0 -- Canada ... •••• .. • • Uppr Canada Bonds 51. per cent. - - - 70 City Navigation - - - 90 1 4 Comp .0 ppr Mars Eng. 51. percent. 100 0 0 i7O 0 0 Gen. Revers. & Invest. sp.c. ti hs.2/ 100 0 0 100 0 0 -90 Equitable Reversionry s'. pr cont. 100 0 0 100 0 0 100 Gen. Steam Navigation 11. Bs. 15 0 0 14 0 0 22 London Institution - 78 15 0 - Russell Institution .. • - - 26 5 0 3 I'eninslr& Orient.Stm. 8/. per cent. 50 0 0 50 0 0 69% Reversionary Int. Soc. 4361. pr cent. 100 0 0 100 0 0 92 Royal Mail Steam..... 61 18..4. p. c. WO 0 0 60 ' 0 0 5036 South Australian.- - 11. per share. 25 0 0, 25 0 0 16 Villi Diernaleo Land.% ": 100 00,la 0 0 1S LIABILITIES. Capital ..• . . f. 67,900,000 00 Ditto of the Branch Banks ... 23,350,000 00 R , ?serve fund ... - 1u,000,000 00 Ditto of the branch banks ... 2,980,750 00 RPserve-immobiliere 4,000,000 00 Notes to bearer, in circulation ... 372,002,100 00 Ditto of the branch banks ..• 35,005,525 00 Ditto to order (post-bills) ••• ... 756.388 55 Account-current with Treasury creditor 22,485,241 30 Various accounts cu rrent ... 95.674,618 82 Ditto in branches ••• ... 28,601,227 00 Bills payable at si g ht 3,602,500 00 Ditto at branchu •,. ... 1,385,304 00 Bills of the branch banks payable by the Bank ••• ,•• ••• ••• Ditto of the Bank payable by branches.. Dividends payable ••• • • Liquidation of the Algiers Bank Discounts, interest, and expenses Ditto branch banks ..• ••• Re-discounts of the last six months Ditto in branch banks Miscellaneous 6,533,635 88 3.924,020 00 3,373,167 25 179,012 44 413,100 90 172,564 00 143,693 49 321,562 00 454,497 94 f. 683.256,908 57 Cutifled by the Governor of the Bank ot Fr4nce. D'ARGOUT. INIPERIAL P A RLIAMENT. HOUSE OF 10IWS, July 10. Their Lordships assembled at Fite o'eli,ek. :NCLOSURE BILL—EXTENSION OF POWERS. Ttlis Bid passFd through Committee on the motion of ;he Earl of CARLISLE. SI'Z'E FOR SCHOOLS BILL. On the motion of Lord REDESDALE this Bill passed through Committee. The Bishop of ROCHESTER presented petitions from the c:er,:y in hisdiocete complaining of the manner in which tithes were rated to the poor. The Bishop of LLANDAFF presented a petition with a similar prayer. PORIP,TRICK AND DONAGHADEE. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE Lid up,n the table papers relating to the packet service between these ports, and also to the service between Belh t ,t and Gla,zow. NEWFOUNDLAND. The Earl of HARROW BY presented a petition from the colony of Newfoundland complaining of the in juries they sustained in cons , quence of the high bounty riven by the French and Americans for the fishing by the ships of their respective nations on the coast of Newtoundland, and praying that the House would take mea,ures to prevent the encroachment of foreign nations in their fishing grounds, and for rtlief from the pecu niary burdens impo-ed on the colony. POOR-LAWS (IRELAND). Lord MON I.EAGLE, who during the time he was speaking, turned his b ck to the gallery, was unierstood to complsin of the inaccuracy of certain returns made by the Irish Poor-law Commissioners. RIVER PLATE. S% 210 203 Lord COLCHESTER rose to put the question of which he had given notice, in relation to the affairs of the River Plate. He wished to know what was the pre sent state of our negotiations with the Government of Buenos Ayres relative to the pacification of the countries bordering on the River Plate? The Mat quis of LANSDOWNE had every reason to believe that, the negotiations were proceeding favourably, and he had hoped that ere this he should have been enabled to announce the conclusion of a treaty, but the delay had been occasioned by a well-founded hope that the French Government would join in a treaty which would secure the future tranuku,illity of the countries bordering on the River Plate, and he had every hope and expectation that such a treaty would be speedily concluded. Lord BOWDEN hoped the House would excuse the al parent irregularity of which he was guilty in addressing their Lordships on this occtoion ; but as his conduct, in regard to those negotiations, had been attacked, he hoped their Lordships would permit him to defend himself.— (Hear, hear.) It was not his desire to drag their Lordship back to the commence ment of the interve ution, because he could never discover when it originated. Each Government seemed to be desirous of escaping from the responsibility of the commencement of an intervention which had turned out to be so unsuccessful. The commencement of the quarrel was the refusal of General Oribe to suffer Argentine prizes to be confiscated in Monte Videan ports—that was to say, that he refused to permit the property of an ally to be confiscated and sold in his ports. Several agents had been sent out by this country during the progiess of the quarrel between Buenos Ares and Monte Video, lor the purpose of effecting a settlement of the question, but all had failed in so doing. In 1847 he himself went out, and although he was unable to settle the dispute, Set the blame did not rest with him, but with the Monte Videan party, who refused to accede to the basis proposed. There were a set of loan w ngers, who swallowed up the resources o' the state, and who derived advantages from the blockade of Buenos Ayres. He begged to correct an erroneous opinion that this country had guaranteed the inde pendence of Monte Video, Lord Ponsonbv having ex pressly stated in 1828 that this country had only acted as a mediator in the affairs of the United Provinces 01 La Plata. It was with feelings of regret that he some times saw great Britain embarking on political voyages in company that nine times out of ten pre vented her sailing much faster and safer than she ought ' to do. There was a string feeling against Roses in this country, but in whatever manner he may hare been treated by his fellow citizens, he had ever afforded %‘'‘ protection to foreigners. He believed that no man was more able than General Rusas to maintain an advan tageous connexion with this country. There was no essential cause of disunion existing between this coun try and Buenos Ayres, though there might be an acci ice. dental cause. He believed that it was the best policy to be especially pursued with regard to persons of Spanish origin. In conclusion, the Noble Lord stated that for every act of his official conduct when Minister at Buenos Ayres, he had received assurances of unqualified appru bation from the Government. After some brief observations from the Earl of HAR ROW BY, which were inaudible in the gallery, The Earl of ABERDEEN said, it remained to be Price ... 3% seen whether the negotiations nobs going on with regard to the affairs of Buenos Ayres would result in a success -0 ful issue. lie cunfessed that he was very happy in . hearing the Noble Marquis express himself with such con fidence on the subject, but he ventured to think that the S probabilities of success depended much upon whether the question to be resolved related to anything between this country and France. If the ultimatum was to be sent to Buenos Ayres for approval, his expectation was that they would fail of a satisfactory result. The question mainly depended whether the independence of the Oriental Republic was to be preserved or not. The sub- stance of the settlement was that which he had sent out in May, 1846, known as the Hood basis, and in propor tion as they adhered to that proposition they upheld the principles of justice and truth. Lord BEAUMONT withdrew the expression "job bers," applied the other evening to the persons who had raised the loan, when speaking of the Custom-house. He had since then ascertained that they were all most respectable persons. On the motion of the Marquis of LANSDOWNE, the amended Poor Relief (Ireland) Bill was read a first time, and the second reading fixed for Friday. Lord MONTEAGLE laid on the table a Bill for re gulating the taxation of costs in private cases before their Lordship , . The Silver Coinage Bill was read a third time and passed. Their Lordships then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, July 9. The SPEAKER took the Chair at F..ur o'clock. Captain PECHELL presented a petition signed by upwards of 7,000 of th e i n h a bi tants o f B r i g h ton against the sale of the Pavilion. ROYAL PAVILION BRIGHTON BILL. Mr. HAYTER moved the second reading of this Bi, Captain PECIIELL opposed the motion, and consi dered it a very cool one after the petition that he had just presented against it. The inhabitants, in order to benefit the town by the presence of royalty, gave up to George IV. land which cost them 4.001, on which he might build the Pavilion, which, it sold. would go into the hands of private parties and be entirely taken away from the town. The Government now intended to sell the Pavilion to Mr. Cubitt, or to anybody else, thus taking away from them that sacred ground.—(Laughter.) He hoped the inhabitants would be heard before a Com mittee of that House against the Bill; and suggested that it was due to the inhabitants of Brighton to post pone the Bill until another sess;on. Mr. HAYTER intimated that he h d no objection to the Bill being referred to a Select Committee. His Gallant Friend had said that two parties were hitt rested in this matter—the lord of the manor and the inhabit ants. Now it was remarkable that there were no peti tions from them against the Bill; but the inhabitants of Brighton had no legal claim. He neither admitted nor denied ghat they would have a locus stahcli before the .Onmunittee;•it .as Corouittfee to judg--. The property belorgtd to the Crown, and . the ()town had a perfect right to sell it if it thought proper. The produce of the ,sale would be applied towards the expense of the buildings at Buckingham Pelace, as had been already stated by the Chalicellor ot the Ex chequer. The inhabitants might have a popular right, but they certainly had no legal one. It was, however, in the power of the House to give the land to the inba bitaiits if it thought proper. After a few words from Mr. W. PATTEN, Sir C. BURRELL opposes the Bill, suet considered it most ohjeetionable. Mr. HAY FER, in reply to Sir H. WILLOUGHBY, said that the r. soictions with reap. ct to building on the site o' the pavilion would be eontinu• d. The BR we, then read a second tune. Mr. DIVETT presented is petition from Exeter in favour of th Charter. Sir C. LUSHINGTON presented a petition from Westminster to the same effect. Mr. OSBORNE presented one to the same effect. Mr. G. THOMPSON presented a petition from the parents of a child. wno complained tnat it had died in consequence of medical relict being refused v. it. He referred the petition to the Chief Poor-law Commissioner. The Hon. Member also presented a psti ion from the Tower Hamlets, praying the House to recognise the Roman R?publie. Mr. Alderman lIUMPHERY presented a petition from the master bakers of Suuthwurk against the Sale of Beer Bill. OFFICI AL CORRESPONDENCE. Mr. C. ANSTEY gave notice of his intention this day fortnight to move the resolution with respect to official correspondencr,of which he had given notice. CORONER OF SURREY.—CIIOLERA. Mr. Alderman IiUMPLIERY wished to puts question to the Secretary of State for the Home Department relative to the course pursued by the Coroner of Surrey. That officer had insi.ted upon holding inquests on all persons dying of cholera in any of the unions of the borough of Southwark. lie wished to know whether the Right Ron. Gentleman intended to interfere with that officer for doing so. Sir G. GREY said that he had no power to interfere with the discretion of the coroner in such cases. The Secretary of State had no power to give any direction on the subject. SMITH O'BRIEN. Mr. C. ANSTEY, teeing the Right Hon. Baronet the Secretary ID!' State for the Home Depa:tment in his place, wished to ask him if it was true that Messrs. ,'Martin and O'Doherty were sent out to Van Diemen's Land in a vessel in which cholera had broken out, and which was not considered fit to receive Mr. Smith O'Brien and the other State pri soners. Perhaps the Right Hun. Baronet would be good enough to state, at the same time, if Government received a certificate of the state of Mr. Martin's health before he was tent out. Sir GEORGE GREY said the matter admitted of easy explanation. When Messrs. Martin and O'D.therty were sent to the vessel the cholera had not broken out at all. He was nut aware it such certificate as that re ferred to by the Hon. Gentlerrean was received or not. VENTILATION OF MINES. Mr. FORBES ask, d the Right Hon. Baronet if his attention had been called to a Bill introduced by the Honourable M, mber for Portlr.nd on the subject of ven tilating mines, and if so, if it was the intention of Go ve•rnment to give it their approbation. Sir GEORGE GREY replied that on the motion for the second reading' of the Bill introduc , d by the lion. Member fur Finsbury a general opinion was expressed that legislation on the subject should be delayed until next session, when they would have the report of the Lords' Committee and of the two inspec • tors, arid if, therefore, the Bill were pressed he should certainly oppose it. COALS. Lord H. VANE wish, crittask the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether his attention had been directed :o the high duty imposed by France on coals imported into that country by sea, compared with that levied on coals imported on the laud trontier by the Meu-e, and ►hrough the department of the Moselle; an►' whether, in the event ot his attention having ►,een dirt cted to that subject, he entertained any hope taut the French Government will consent to ► qualise the duties? Lord PALMER ,TON said some communications had passed on the subject between the two Governments, but nothing bad passed in the matt , - r within the lust twelve months. His own impression, however, was, that the regulation referred to by the Hun. Member were op posed to existing trea•ies between the two nations, and efforts would be made to get rid ot it. JUVENILE OFFENDERS. Mr. M. MILNES then rose to emit the attention of the House to the treatment and condition of juvenile criminals in this country. There was no subject, he said, of more impartance and interest to the , statesman and philanthropist than that of prison discipline, but it was a strange circumstance that the one branch of it, which was involved iu the least difficulty, namely, the treatment of juvenile offenders had seen almost entirely neglected. Juvenile criminals were incr% using daily it. somewhat singular, _u_ this country, and it would appear it nevertheless was true, that they were treated as men. When he said this question had obtained very little at tention he knew very well something had been done with regard to penal treatment of young offenders. At Parkhurst they had established a penal school in stead of a prison, but still it was an establish ment essentially and immediately of a penal nature, and one in which the reiormatory character was utterly forgotten. The boy from rarkhurst was thrown upon the world with an unfitness for independent action, and destitute of the ability to serve his country as an honest citizen. Very little reflection might have taught them that it could hardly have been otherwise, because what had been done at Parkhurst had been to give a boy a sl.ong impression of punishment; they had done nothing to improve his heart or to awaken his conscience; they had done nothing absolutely of a re formatory character. He (Mr. Mtlnes) would recommend the establishment of some such asylum fur criminal youth as ev,.s found in the Philanthropic Insti tutien, which was of lung date, but it bad only risen into vigour and promise under the guidance and energy of that remarkable man, Mr. Sidney Turner, and be come the model for the Maiterui in France. It was not for him (Mr. M. Mtlnes), under present eircum stances, to lay down any distinct plait under which a measure of that kind might be adapted to the large prison population ; but he would suggest, as the Noble Lord the Member for Bath bed by a late measure established in all the counties in England tit and proper asylums fur those persons who had been unfortunately deprived of their reason, estab lishments of a similar nature should be formed for the purpose of reforming from the way s of inevitable crime that enormous body of youthful offenders. On a rough catculation between 70,000 end 80,000 persons came under the notice of the law in the metropolis and the adjacent districts, and at least a seventh part cf those persons were under thin. en years of age. Ho thought that in the first place I n d ia a b b e le administered - The dis aught g juvenile eni ie corporal tff u p d u e n r i s s fishmeal " the shou ld y trict; for the second offence o the child should be sent for one or two years to one of those reformatory houses; and fur t be third offence to be sent to one of those establishments tor so keg a peiod as even five or six years. The 9th 01 Victoria was passed at the ins7arice of a lad), who, from her is) mpathy with her suffering fe low creatures, might be placed on a parallel with Mrs. Fry— he meant Miss Murray; but, notwithstanding the excel lent provisions 'of that Biii, it had remained inopera ti‘e, because the Government had, from some cause or other, not made use of that valuable instrument placed in their hands. Notwithstanding all they had ' done with respect to summary convictions, crime was still on the increase; and whilst nu proper provision was made fer the retorne.tlon of juvenile offenders, it would continue to increase. Why could they not send them to the colonies, to become there useful and reformed members of society? The colonies, which would shrink with horror at receiving a number of old transports, w ould receive with gladness children. He was con•,ent to leave the question in the hands of the Right Hon. Baronet, who, be trusted, during the recess would direct his attention to this important subject, ano that in another session he would not leave it to an individual Member of the House. Next seseion he • trusted the Right Hon. Baronet would have made a step in the right direction; but it he conceived the subject unworthy of his attention, and did not stir in it, he (Mr. Manes) should, year after year, press it upon the atten tion of the House, in order to destroy that more anomaly of confounding the crime of the man with the delinquency of the child. He moved for leave to bring in a Bill to amend the laws relating to the reformation of juvenile offenders. Mr. HUME seconded the motion. Sir G. GREY said he should be ready to acquiesce in the motion it he really thought his Hon. Freud had a Bill in his possession. Mr. MILNES said he intended his motion to apply to the introduction of a Bill next year. Sir G. GREY said he quite agreed with the Hon. Gentleman in most that he had ,said. With him, he thought that far more might be done with the young offenders than with these of more mature years, and that the Government should apply themselves more to the re formation of the young than to those of advanced age. It should be remembered that Parkhurst was not a penal school, but a prison, and that very great good had resulted from its operations. It bad been esta blished for the reception of youths between fourteen and sixteen, who baying committed offences which subjected them to the penalty of transportation, were sent there at th e re c ommendation of the judge or the chairman of the quarter sessions; and after a time, if their conduct was good, they were aunt abroad to some colony where they would be free from all liability to contamination. The prison combined two elements, the reformation of the inmates and punishment for the penal offences which they had committed, and the object which Parliament hsd in view in establishing it had been fully answered. The chief evil of the present system was short terms o. imprisonment fr. quently with respect to parsons of tender age, who were, by that means brought in con nexion with persons of a more advanced age and of a more hardened character, and who came out of prison much worse than when they went in. The Honourable Gentleman had adverted to the Act lately passed, giving power to summarily con vict, and he (Sir G. Grey) was happy to state that the results of it had been must satisfactory, and that the punishment which It inflicted was lo o ked upon with more dread than any other kind of punishment. Ile should br happy to consider any suggestion that could be thrown out for the more ti a t ijnetory treatment of juvenile , ff li dera, but h 4 had to protest against the as-umption that the subjial was free !tom all difficulty.— (Hear, hear.) The Philanthropic Society admitted that it was atteeded with great difficulties. In the report of the society a numb .r of valuable sugeestion4 were thrown out, among which was one that parents should be made liable to the support of their chi:a tee who, tntoegh tr fir Tiegkc+, • hi curve inmates -ut any tuf our prisons or reformatory institutions. dithoush, however, he considered that a very desirable object, because it would induce parents to take greater care of at , it otr-pring, and nut send them into th- world un protec-ed, yet it might giv- rise to c, , nsideratile litiea ion. He hvgiFd to 'Assure the fi n. Gentleman that his at tention would continue to be directed to that suh- jtct. and that he hh , ,uld he h.ppy to take into conside ration any suggestion that could be offered to the G.ivernfneW. Mr. RANKES said that the syst.m of separation that was suggested could not be cirri.rl ..ut in D .rchest..r. . _ Ihe Secr,tary of Stat- had put a stop to the gaol ac nommod ;don that was prop , ,s , d by the nraais , r4tes there, who hail agrued to expend upwards of triree thou sand pounds upon it, and had E. trigesteli the adop , i..n of a plan that would cost li n thou , nnd pounds, which that county could no! afford. Ito was happy to hear that with respert to juvenile off-nd , -rs the attention of the Government had b-en directed to that subject. As to the system of classification. he did not thick it could be carried out. 1 - .1 , cordially wished success to the motion of his Honourable Friend. and thoughl that he could not do t , ett,r that sopoori. the Bill that had been brought in by 11 ,, r Mtjt , . - .ty s Governta , -tit. It was a at,p in the right direert at.d as, n1 , 17h It h•-• thought could b- expected during the present session. Sir J PAKINGTON expressed his regret that this question hsd been brought on at this late period of ,he session, and with the object expressed by the Hon. Mem ber for Pontefract. He was rather surprised that The Honourable Gentleman had concluded with a motion for leave to introduce a Bill, us he expec ed the Honourable Gentleman intended to move the appoi7 tment of this Committee on the subject. When the Rignt lion. Gentleman the Seer , try of State or the Home Depa , tment c..ane into office he had sorn convers ition with him on this subj.-c:, and he cer• tainly ha i been in hopos that the Right Honour able Baronet would ere this have introduced a Bill to authorise the construction of an establishment for the reformation of juvenile offenders. tie thought it highly desirable that a Committee should be appointed t. , advise the [louse in this matter before it was further proceeded with. Mr. HENLEY trusted the lion. Member for Ponte fract would go one step turther in the matter, and bring in the Btll of which he had given notice. Of course he could not hope to pass it this session, but it would add to the general fund of information which bad been col lected on the subject. bir GEORGE GREY was ignorant of the facts re lated by the Hon. Member for Dorsetshire, but he would cause inqiiiry to be made into them. Mr. M. MILNES would follOv thn advice of the [lon. Gentleman opposite, and lay his Bill on the tabl before the House separated. The reason he had dela) ed the introduction of this question so long was becauso he had been in daily expectation that Govermatout would take it up with rigour. Leave was then given to bring in the Bill. TEMPORALITIES OF THE CHURCH OF IRELAND. Mr. BERNAL OSI3ORNE then rose pursuant to notice to move for a Committee of the whole House to consider the present state of the tempo ralities of the Church of Irel4nd. The Honourable Gentleman, he said, the Member for Pontefract, in in :aeelucing the very useful measure he had just brought before the Hotote, had told the House how d,fficult it was for any individual Member to grapple with the subject of the treatment and the formation of jevenile offenders. If it was difficult for an individual Member to bring such a subject bsf. -re the House, how much more difficult it was for an independent Member of Parliament, totally unconnected as he was, not only with the Gov. rnment, hut with any political party to brine forward the question of which he had given notice fur this evening. (Hear, hear.) However he might regret that the great names and ability which were formerly devoted to the discussion of this question were no Linger available for the purpose, at least he c--uld net be accueed of showing any undue presumptien in now subtuittin it to the notice of the House.---e Cries of " Hear, hear.") Whether it was that the asp, et of Irish grievances bed been more rsnk and otfem , ive to gentlemen on the opposite benches, or ttta. the Irish reps. a• titetises th tn , elves, as a body, were int.itfcretr. ti this subi' ct he knew net, but this qu s don the Irish Church, which was formerly the gather ing cry of the Whigs, had been within the lest few years entirely laid aside, and that instrument, on whch s't many harmoeious tunes bad be eta playtd, was now like the fabulous harp of Tara, hung up mut-. ,and remained unstrune.—(Hear, hear.) However Hon. Gentleman differed woh hi-n on this question, they would not be inclined to say that it was not one of the gravest consideration. Where the whole eccl• s 7 astscal revenues of the countrs were devoted to one-tenth ot the pepulation, and that one tenth of the pei•plo the Protestant minority. and where the religion of the majority was bu winked at by the State, he could not but think such a question was in its. if worthy the gravest conside ration ot this House. He thought there was no Member ot that House, who, if even they had to commence legislating on this subject de novo, would be inclined to take those funds founded by the ancestors of the pour Catholic ma jority, and bestow them upon the spiritual education of the rich Protestant minority.—(Cries ot " Hear, hear.") He should give one of the best definitions he knew of the Irish Church in a very few words. It was the opinion of a great Conservative statesman. He said. " You have an ecclesiastical establishment which, though the religion of the Prince. and most of the first-class of landed proprietors, was n o : the religion of the major part of the people." That was said by Butke in 1796. And how stood the case in 1849? It was true they had corrected some flagrant abuses, but the evil still existed In 1823 the question of the temporalities of the Irish Church was first mooted in that House by that pioneer of all modern improvements, his Honourable Friend the Member for Montrose. Unlike the generality of original projectors, whose projects were treated in their time as the offsprings of political empiricism. he had lived to find them carried out by the leaders of both parties, and who, nevertheless, never laid claim to them, but pursued the " even tenor of his way"— (Cheers)---and happily continued in pristine strength and adhered with stern consistency to the sentiments of his early days.—(Hear, hear.) That motion was sup ported by Mr. Ward, the late Member for Sheffield, and ny the present President of the Board of Control, and the Prime Minister. For eight years he continued this course, and was supported in it by of some of those now in the . Cabinet. At length, Lord Althorp brought in a Bill on the subject, which abolished vestry cess, but the 147th clause, or the appropriation clause, was in an evil hour abandoned. A remarkable de bate ensued, which was fully reported in " Hatiserd." In those days arbitration was notch needed, for several Mem bers were called out. Mr. Hume and Mr. O'Connell op posed the Bill, and Mr. Shell made a speech which would never be forgotten. He regretted he did not favour the House with speeches so often as the House could wish.—(Elear, hear.) Upon that occasion p r e Lushington entreated the H .use to adjourn, since in his experience his had never seen the decencies of public and private life so much violated. The Bill was given up. Still. Mr. Ward persevered in 1835 In :834 Mr. O'Connell had made his great m .tion for repeal, and he was met wi h an amendment. But it was desirable to promote all important inprovewents. On the 30th .if March in that year Lord John Rus,ell brought en a motion en toe subject, and the Parliament of that. day passed t e e Apprunriation Bell. Still Mr. Ward w<nt .11 melting his annual motions. In 1843, Mr. Smith O'Brien, eho whatever his Butts were was an honest Member of Parliament, brought forward a motion. In that year the present Chancellor of the Exch. quer said the first evil of Ireland was the sate of the I, ish Church; that in no country of Europe was such art establishment maintained for the nenefit of is small minority of the pepultstien; and he considered it he duty of the Goverem nt to originate a re.t.edy tor he evils complained ot, and to provide for the settle :octet of th.. question.—(Hear.. hear.) The Right Hon. .ecretar) for Ireland also made a very animated speech laugh)—on that occasion. He (Mr. Osborne) did ot use the term invidiously; he meant that the Itte,ht Ron. Baronet was excited. (The lion. Gentl• man proceeded to read some passages from the speech of Sir W. Somerville, who sail, be had heard, hut did not believe, that it was not the intention of the Government to re- open the question of the Irish Church, and who appealed to the Conservative and Christian gentlemen of England whether, if they tv, re in the situation of the Irish people, they would submit to that establishment adding, that he little knew tee spirit of the English nation if they would not resist it.) He (Mr. Osborne) wished to ask that Right Honourable Baronet, as a Con servative and a Christian gentleman, whether he was now prepared to resist that Church?—(Hear, bear, and a laugh.) The Right lion. Member for Ripon also said, during the same debate, that he admitted the Irish Church to be the most important of all subjects—one which he feared lay• at the bottom ct all their difficul ties. Lord Howick, now Earl Grey, said on the same occasion, that if they meant to have peace in Ireland they must reform the Established Church—(Hear, hear) —that they must not shirk the question. but must deal with the property of that Church. On that occasion seven of the present Cabinet Ministers voted for the motion. In 1844, so much afraid was the Noble Lord at the head of the Government lest the question should he taken out of his hands by Mr. Smith O'Brien, that he moved tor a Committee to inquire into the state of Ireland, and a remarkable debate took place. (The lion. Member here read passages from the speeches delivered by Lord J. Russell and Sir G. Grey in the course of that debate. The Noble Lord said:—" With regard to the Irish Church, th e system should be disposed to adopt would be on l which would put the Established Church, es regards Roman Catholics and erotestants, upon is footing of the most perfect equality." Sir G. Grey said that when he was told the question of the It jab Church was beset with difficulties, he denied them to be difficulties sufficient to deter a Minister of the Crown from dealing wi.h it; and that nothing a p. peered to him worse, nothing more hazardous, th an for Parliament to declare that they would not entertain the question of the Irish Church because it was beset with difficulties; adding—" The union must be maintainel , but a complete union never can be effected so long as the Pst ablished and endowed Church of the minority exclusively exist x"—(Haar.) The whole of the eresent Cabinet, and of the present race of Lords of the Treasury, and peeVe of that class — (A laugh) —then voted, he believed, tor the Noble Lenee metier ) . The last time the Tiestion of the Irish Church had been die useed in that House was in 1845, when Mr W ar n -.eyed an amendment upon the proposition ot the Right ;l on Number for l'amworth with respect to the College of Maynooth. He did not know how Irish Members would act upon this occasion, but he could gain au inkling of the course some of tht-se Hen. Members would tutor:, from is hat had already taken place. The Hon. Metnin r Re-cernmen had anis% !lust tuts lens net flats proper time tor t ward • ese. ete , j• et; teet tend to excite discord. Now, he found that the Hon. Gentleman had never, in the course ()ibis long parlismen. L 2 49, tary career. given a vfue upon the sui-j,ct of the Irish Church. He (Mr. asbor,,e) believed the 11,:n=mratite Gentlem , .n had been very rnech pressed to vote en the appropriation clause, brit ho wets t uu much td. n t ifi e ri with some high &pito/ties of the Church to commit wh,t, would ha've bcFn a kuividal t*et ‘4.1 his parr, Ile (Mr Osborn-) might answer s hut 11 n ( 1 , 144 wii's obj•etion that this was 'el the priper time ior such ts di-cos-ion by the ohs- rva.titttis mad- by th.. ister of the Miht, then Mr Sheil—(Lant.th et) —gin 1833. in reply to a similar objection. 'chat Ilight lion. "f11+.132 , 01, att. r ohs, vthg that it bad be. n argued that that, .as not the proper lime for a p propti , ation of th , . Chitret, temporali•tea went on to say:— " -Not the titre, Whtn is it to arm , ? 13.eme the Itef Tmed Pattaieent it was not he time mud the lie httlined hero is the liefoitned , men', and the time hts nut yet c- me. When .01 it? NV , ,rn the Whitts art* in opposition? What: I we are to *talc until their otticialcotiv reehee wit , the right , of Ireland, we shatl have to wait long indced."—(Ln.isghter.) lie (Mr. Osborn , ) hopeii the 1.4..vel nWela 11111nttt , In t el. (l to move " Eh.- pr: vt..us gaps last" a, nit .:n nis mttein. lie thihigh, thr heat tI tihithm thut coo d be given of the present session was, that it had been a ..-s-ion of pr.vtous qq..,tiont, ; for out .eaiening the de bntes he I.tuni that in no !ot mer sessi..it tied the pry woos que,tion" been No tregnetitly m,ved pe.,. 1 ,b- 0,, of doors were somewhat puzzled to imagine what the or. vious question meant. it was nothing wore th ,11 ParhameHtary sl. ight of hand, used to cut the ae• quaintatx •of an old triend who had been uselulinop position, hut Who might he inc , ;nve3si-nt to a party in power. He (sir. Osborn•) did not regard this as a were question of money, but he would have the financial re turmers of England look about them, and rememt.er when the tax collector came to the doors that A great ti“al v‘as levted to maintain an army (It occupation for the supp la of the Irish t hurch. He regirdeil this as an impartial question, as well as an Irish question; be cause, whatever measures they alight pass, so lung a , they lett the Church of Ireland in its present state would Ireland be not only the diffieulty of a Minister, but the embarrassment of an empire.—so long would the Noble Lard be justified in coming down to the House and say ing, as be did in 1844, that Ireland was occupied and not governed; and so long would Ireland remain in the state so graphically described by the Honourable Mem ber for Buckinghamshire, of social decomposition.— (Hear, hear.) Referring to the pasta history or Ire land, the Elem. Gentleman observed that the Reforma• tion in Ireland was carrie d out on the great Whig prin ciple of a p i xopriation, the original reformer s caring little about Irish souls, but a great deal about Irish properly. —(Laughter.) Cromer, the Archbishop of Armagh, denounced the reformers as the SocialiAs of that day, who under the plea of ren , rm were plundering and spoliating the country; and Leland, a Protestant writer, records in his history, that the gross lives of the re formers constituted a great drat% back to the Reforma tion. The history of tka Irish Church, in the time ot Elizabeth, was written in characters of blood, for that monarch, though a good Puseyite in this country, was a bitter Presbyterian in Ireland; and when Lord Strafford was expostulated with Peer his cruelties in Ireland, he gave as his excuse that his object was to increase the revenue; so that the Roman Cathol:ca were rot bed for the advaic.nricut of Protestantism.—(llear,andlaughter.) The policy of Cromwell was explained by one word— extsrmination• andit was in his time that the Irish Roman Catholics were eff• red the agreeable alternative ot tied or Connaught.—(Year, hear.) In 1688 Ireland gained nothiag by the English importation of a lluteh :don itch but persecuti;in ; and William 111., in his last speech to Parniamesit, s aid he hoped that all distinctions in his kingdom would cease except those between Papists and Protestants. Passing over the various penal enactments ad tpted, he mentiotted as a re mat twine tact that Bishop Mant excased them not only es being for the security of the Prue -stasis, but ale() for the net,efit of the Caehalics. When he refl teted on such ate excuse he couiti not h- 1p exclaiming— " 0! luau reins nitaium, sus at bona tiorint." —(Laugater.) La 1723 a Bill was passed—and he wiaild chal eiwe the productian treat the at nala eel any other country of such an Algerine Act—by a c rause in welch it was attempted to degrade the Raman Cat hot cs to a level with the slavish guaraistis of a Nlahotnetsie harem. They all knew how tha union was affeCtfrld ; they knew th et union votes were barter d for Irish bishap ries, arid now, after a pert tel of 300 years, this Protes tant Church in Irelatio, notwittistarming its receipt of great revenue alai possession eit poloical supremacy, stood very eeuch in the game po Won as at fir.t, though he granted that the okra) had improved. They taiga' revile the Homan Catholies as beggars, but they could not taunt them as apostates. for their creed they had te• tamed through famine, pistil nee, arid persecution; and Ireland lay L zarus at the gel e, whilst the Li stab &weal Church, like 1..) v-s was clu.hedf is purple, a nd fine linen, the hi g hest ...tiers to the institution leasling sumptuoasly every d ,y.—(Elear, hear.) He meant no rail:tenon on the clergy of the lower classes, but he itn puaned the system under which they were ministers. But it might be said that there was no pers-cution in the present day, and why then make any altera tion when the 1I email Catholics were loyal and con- tented? Was this so uniformly the case ? Why, he tound the Protestant Bishop of Watert,rd stating, in another place, on the sth ot May. 1849, that in the last year. out of a population of 80,000 Homan Catholics in a district, only eighteen persons became ape cial con stables; while out of a population of 5 000 Protestants 280 persons became special constables. lie (,tr. Osborne) therefore came to the conclusion that there must be something which prevented the Roman Catholic population from being attached to the present system. The lion. Member here referred to a letter written by Lord Clarendon and read in the House of Commons last year, relative to the indisposition of the population iii certain districts to support the authorities in their at tempt to suppress rebellion, and observed that if he were to ask those Hon. Members particularly connected with Ireland why this was the case, he was sure their answer would be, that it arose from the circumstance of full justice never having been done to that o. unary; and from England persisting at all haz girds in maintaining this deformity of the Protestant Church.—(Hear, hear.) He knew that there was a large and respectable party in Ireland who meant by "justice to Ireland" identity of institutions in respect to nosh countries. He totally dissented from that doctrine, which he regard e d as a fallacy. The misfortune was ihat they had endea voured to suit the English law and English notions— the result of long prosperity and of the habits of the English people as a commercial nation—to Ireland. In so acting, the Government took for example the first political economist of antiquity, Procrustes, and had en deavoured at one time, by pi nal laws, to stretch the Ca. tholtc conscience, raid at another to cut short the means of the people by regulations applied without re• terence to their f elings ant eusionss.—(Hear.) It wae most extraordinary that this prsctice was applied to Ire land alone. Scotland rettaitied all her native ins' iwtioriz., civil ~nd criminal. England tried to saddle her sib bench cf Eitshops aid an English Church, but &salami refused to nave them ; and he- observed that 1.2301. a sear was vi to the Scotch Episc pagan clergy, whiw• e money no Seoichinan refus , cl to receive, n.-cau e, as la supp sett, it was sp tit in the cou , .try.—(L aughter l'tte c ense Tierieft of governing Scotland through the sentimeals of na iunal ty alit affection was trott taceettano was quite an inexpe-nsive neightieur, and requir.d eb pr Iwo only of two thousand soldie- rs at the existing time —(Rear, hear.) But, on Irel .net An glican laws wi re imposed ; Ire-nand had not true naive isstituttan, except the canstatadiry, hi the High, Hon. Gentletnau opposite; it bad a rice. p ro r e , sot Church; and while the Presbytetiatis receive-0 the Regium tonum, the It email Catholics were n,gl• e , . d. The cutissqu rice way, that in I &sail an army was re• qaired or 50,000 the u. iieclu lie,g pensioners and police Would it not, 'hen. be m ire w;se to rule Scotland was ruled, through th.- of nationalii) and atfecti-en? Was this system of Protestant .eaten dency worth the money paid -or f ? —(Hear. hear.) Lord Lan•downe once asked whether Irelanit was inteadeit tee the benefit ot the Church. or the Church tor the hen. fa he (Mr. Osborne) should be obliged if tn. flume Secretary would answer that question.—(Hear. hear, and a laugh.) Whet were the use and object of a church establishmen• ? The Prime Minister had ex• pressed an opinion that a church establishment was tie‘i to maintain the offspring of the clergy in wealth, bus chit it was intended for the spititual instruction of the people ; and the Under Secretary for the flume De. partment, in a most able work on the influence. of authority in matters of opinion, expressed the sentiment that a Gov..rtiment in deciding the ques tion of endowment must look to the numbers ot the persons constituting the religie us denutairiatiiin a , The Bishop of London likewise said that the ques don, whether a church establishment was to be main tained, was to be only answered by another, nana , ly, whether it impeded or promoted the spiritual improve ment of the people? The Hon. alember here said that he was willing to place the question on that ground, and observed that it was curious to see, when the expansive nature of Protest‘intism was talked about, how the Ho man Catholics had progressed and how the Protestants had diminished in Ireland, under the influence of the Established Church. He here referred to different ac counts of the proportionate amount ot the Ruman Ca tholic and Protestant populations in Ireland at variosis periods since 1672 to 1841; ebservit g that during that space of time the Roman Catholics had increased as 7 to 1. He proceeded to say that it also appeared from the report of the Commissioners of Public Instruction in 1, 18 r 3 0 7, tes t t h a a n t ts the in re t w ,a e r r h e ; 99 benefices with less than 20 and 50 Protesta nts i n one single Pr o t estant. — (li ees t a h e ar.) 12 u 4 act e ; ne a fi n c d es 41 h b a e v u ir e i ti g e b e e s t w w e ie th n o 2 u u t A most fallacious way of viewing this question of the amount of Pro testants in Ireland was to refer to the report of the amount of church sittings in that country; for in the church which he attended the number of sittings was put down at. 200, though only 25 persons attended.—(Hear.) In the diocese of Lismere there were several parishes ill which there were no Protestants, and in one plash the rectorial tithes were paid to a very fine girl.—(Laughs ter.) In another place (Churchtown, we understood the Hon. Member to say) the rector went to church to preach tine day, and he fourid a goose hatching eggs in the pul pit.—(Renewed laughter.) In the diocese of Ossory it might be expected that more Protestants wou'd be found the-re, as, with the este) ption of two large estates, the property there was held xclusively by Protestants; but Mr. Sergeant Shee, in his patuphle t "On Vie Chu , ch of It abe in Leland in I elatien to the State," related that in the incumbency of enlists, yieldine, 2.1971. a year, he abserved that- the- chapel of the R- v. Mr. Mu - pegs and the. chapel of the Augustin Friar. were tully attended, but that the cattgrega)toti in the parish church consisted of 87 persons only, ina.y of them children, and 10 601- dicrs quartered in the sown, and who could not be token as forming part of the regular corgregation.—(l-1, ar, hoar.) The lion. Gentleman said, tnat for the spiritual care of the 853,000 Pratestauta in Irelaad, there W re estaalistied !sa) eaicills Aye._ Bissttas, Z7O i;;;)::I : .1of Inc Arci.oLtaipiie of 11111, ek`la was more than 12,0004 and of the other Archbishopric above 7,4 1 004 a year. The Dishop of Clogher bid 8 000/, and the Bishop of Derry 8.0001, and the ch , rgy* gene rwly the enorn.ous stun ut 688.8381 Ile did; not reckon in that the palaci•s and p3tki for thr.e .ih.hops, or the be-houses tor the el , rgy. By anothiAr return 0 tonna rhit the lolal church latr6; in Ireianatil smoun-ed to 776 384 acres, which would give a very large annual rebtal at oniy 11. per acre ret t B-sidtst he ( dr. Osborne) looke!: up n Dublin Univer,ity besi,g br,nch, or an ina - rument of the Chureb. heti there was t he coes•deret the tni.eey bo,ie 3 000 000/, we umier,,t,o ) Avail , A by Parhatntnt ihe union —(liest% hear.) " But," ,aid au Butt_ ma:, the other night, taki,og ihe argument of the- Primate of Ireland, wt. se wind he represent, d as be tier' than another min's oath, It is a delu-ion, a cb,ptrap„ to call the Itish Church wealth); divide the property equtdlv ton ng the 2,200 clergy, and they would have. hut 2001 a year apiece." 1 tie curates were never called. _ . upon ill the regulation of church rtveiluP—(H, in., hear)) —hut .b. n the.. bj•cr "as to mak.. ..ut th- t hunch po-• vert.)-stricken then we heard of th.rn—(Hear, nn xpee au m vir.s rue>ed which it was liever in-• ended oft wail - brio ihe cr) S. what it will bas ,h ese Ir r filows tg,t heir right:"—which the par— hnd not the most rem to iil.a of giving ihem hetir)—m4kmL the state-mint tm-rel to delude,: h-- to- ( Osborne) did out m ai; to say they • of i h, M.,-11 bet% but he believed the Primate, in spite of hi, re-pt etabitity, did purpose to delude tile Was not the right que x ti on p d blii..—(ilear.) But wa. that the propt-r way in which for having th•- , ,e 2.000 clergy— he it not highly exp,dient th a t thee to l e ) put n atw s t a: t o g ) ' h e w e n s j e:e ' r n s t w y number should he rlueeti to the level of the wants (AT he people ?—(I - 1 , ar, heir.) In France, %%ith some.; 30,000,000 .f Roman C3tholici. av« rev,nue ot . their Church WAS ab• alt 1500,0001. DIA Preibyteriast Church of Sc , itlai•d, 'which Adam Smith described As 1110 S, effective. in improving the morals of the people, ha 58.000/. a year in his time, and had now nearly ' 200 000/. ; but would that. give 200/. a year to each mi ? In Ireland, for 800.000 Protestants, there went 1,643 benefice., a staff ot 2 200 ministers, with a state p,,,%i s ion of 680.0001., and for the ministers of the 7,000,000 of Cattiolic.4 nothing at all.—(Hear, hear.) Was nit the exclamation of Lord Carlisle justified, that there was It Church without faith, clwrgy without flocks, the worst gains or the sinecurist kept up upon the w.or,t principles of the bigot.? There was a material . difference between " a geod Protestant" in England and in Ireliind. In England that term meant a god " family man," who went to church, gave alms, and conducted hems , If in a decent respectable manner —(A laugh.) In Ireland " a good Protestant" was a phrase ap- . plied to a man wile coniinually reviled the Roman Ca thoic faith. In Elizieeth's time the " good Pt otestant” call d massacre and spoliation planting religion and civi lizition; under the Commonwealth he was a man who • wierld bring back the t-rrore of the Old Testament and totally forget tee mild doctrines of the New; after the Revolution he added another article to the Thirty-nine —" The glorious, piens, and immortal memory." People who would probably hardly find one other point on which they agreed joined in hating Popish doctrines and loving Popish property—(A laugh)—and these descen- ' dents of Cromwelr's troopers and William's mercena ries, in the present day, wrapped up their cause with the Eitablished Church in Ireland.--(Hear.) In touching the question of the property of that Church, he (Mr.. ' Oeboree) was aware that he should be told it was sacred. That was always so; but this cry of " sacri lege" was set up at the Reformation with much better pretext than new. Men somehow confounded their spi ritual convictious with their worldly interests.—(Hear.) Put there was no analoey betwe e n eoe p eret „ n d pr i vate property. So said Lord Chancellor Brougham, , add log that the Church received its property fur the per , rormance of c-rtain services, whereas private property • was held unconditionally, and that the pay of the army might as well he c d invi.la.bl- as that of the Church. eleekin.tosh might also be quoted. Warburton laid it ' Iwo that the et rte might resume what the state gave.. N. Minister had ever stated in that House that there was an analogs between corporate and private property.. —(Wear, hear.) how were the pricidents? In 1735 Prirliament took the tithe ete agisment,—in 1833 abolished vestry; cess and ten bishops. Why not go a step further? —(llear, hear.) In Canada, after the rebellion,—un- • he l pily we never did any of these things till blood had flowed—(Hear, hear) —we took the clergy reserves, and rtioagh by Act e,f Peril „meta they were di voted to the Protestant Church. part. of them was now given for the ,ustinance and payment of the Roman Catholic clergy. And who consented to that? The Right Hon. Members for Ripon (Sir J. Graham) and Tameorth (Sir R. Peel), end the Bishop of London. Let the precedent be applied to Ireland.—(llear. hear.) An objection would be made, based upon the 5.h article of union. Surely it was moat ill-advised and impolitic thus to hold out to the Roman Cat:lobes of Ireland a premium to induce them to agitate for the repeal of the union. —(Hear.) but, in tact, that article merely said that the two Churches were to be united in government, disc'pline, and faith, and made no menttott of the temporalities of the Irish Church. a..d contained not one word which prevented Parliament from interferieg with that Church, which was a thing of ' heir own creation. Even it it did, we had already al tered the 4th article; was the sth m .re sacred? The Right Hon'. Baronet (Sir R. Peel) really disposed of this peint, when he asked, " It we are convinced that the see Mal welfare of Leland requires an alteration of the /Mr end a departure from the compact, are our legislative func ems to be so bound up that the compact is to be maintained in spite of our convictions?" cichring that her for one, had never been prepared to say amt.—(lean) • It might perhaps be insisted that we ought' not to inter fere with the temporalities of this Church, because she had the exclusive possession of religious truth. That ar gument, to use the words of an Hon. Gentlenan (Mr. i)israili), was " an organized hypocrisy." lithe principle was good for anything, why not extend it to Canada, the Punj tub, Malta, Leman. and carry your dogmatic theo logy there ? But with more wisdom than sinceritY, men shrunk from the application of their argumehh which would dismember this mighty empire, in which ' , very race c:aiwed toleration for its creed.—(Heat; eear.) We heard much talk of "Protestant principles ! What did gentlemen mean by the term? Did they mean persecution? Then he (Mr. o , ,borna) was no Proter tant.—(Rear.) It there was one Protestant principle We should do well to act upon, it was that which was con' ,ecrated at the Reformation, and to which we owed all cur liberty—the right of private judgment.—(Hear-) He did not see how those who talked se loudly of this could say that we Protestants had exclusive religious truth.—(Hear. hear.) He had now to ask the House to go in o Cenaruittee " to consider the present state of the temporalities of the Church of Ireland." He was not doing so with the view of abolishing it. All useful re' terms must be fouieled on mutual compromise.—(Hear. hear.) Neither did he wish to interfere with the exist' erg rights or vested interests of the pre sent incumbents• ar, hear.) But he asked the House to go into Committee for the In:Tithe of seeing if they could devise a plan by which the congregational ste m could eii carried out in Ireland inste a d of th e t err i tor i a l.-- (Hear, hear.) In one diocese to Erigland—Chester-- -- one hishep till lately presided over 1.500.000 of people leloti.,:ing to the Establi-h. d Church; in Ireland tye° srohb,sh , ps and ti-n bishops presided over 800 000. I P EilLtland there was one bishop to 412 benetic•s, in Ire t4l 138. He had no wild or vtteenaty scheme LO o r,pose; he would have one archbishop with 4,0001. , year. a.d re lute te i n uip b u i:h n tp: be to u f3iovdt:.nwitiee or the with 2 00 04 year ach.—(fiear, hear.) The Right H-n. Barone t (Sir G. hire)) could not ropoil. L eid J. Russell toad the House in 1844.—"' r 6 e Pla pronounced by Dr. Wh a tely, the e i , r n ;:h u t r ns i h % the Lublin, for making the Irish Church* -hurch of congrega•ions, not parishes;" allying, tha t letialgh he thought the Protestant Church ought to he ell provided ter, he did not believe that anything li ke d h i - " e ' r a .) mou li n t t • ( n et () ; . ) all• rte t. ' Ed i s t o w pr a t s rp n o e s c e e d s T Y lis . ; ( 0 11 1 1 e t abr; cable the following resolution:—•• That it is the opitlie e . , ..t thi s C omm i ttee that any surplus which I**J, toter fully pro vi d ing f er t h e spirituel instruction of the members of the Established Church Inland ought to be ep t .liee locally 1( , ) , 'he general educaiien of all classes of the people. (Hear, h• He bad only to add, that he would wall t e e Goveremeet nut to think that the present state 0 ! Ireland was one which afforded' them any great ground of satisfaction. Much had been heard from them whe o in opposition of' large and comprehensive measures 10 oe passed fur Ireland; but what bad they done? They Rad suspended the Habeas Corpus Act and altered the Poor Lew; and taking, the example of the man who en' deavoured to teed a starving dog with the proeuce of 0 1 own tail, they had passed a rate in aid.—(A laugh.) They had lately reitainid a bloodless triumph, crusbiOg agitation, and paral.) zing all political feeling for the pre: sent in that country; but let them not imagine thn putting down the tumult raised by a mad enthusiast ball taken away the feelings and sympathies of the nation."' (Hear.) Let thi m nut be lid away with the idea the the present dull silence, proceeding from famine and de; spair, was the result of happiness and content.—(Hear-) L et t hem not urge "that this is not the time;" let thes e gladly seize an up; ortunity presented to them by Prove' deuce, and boldly put this question, which they had over and over again said lay at the root of Irish heartburnieg end discontent, on a footing which their former repute' lion demanded.—(Cheers.) Mr. REYNOLDS seconded the motion. Mr. MOORE said that he was bound by his oath to do nothing to subvert the Church as by law established Ireland. The Hon. Member, after adverting at som e length to the provisions of the Catholic oath and to th e positi.m of the Established Church in Ireland went oP to say that the present was no n e w subject. It was * e old as the causes which gave it birth. He had read the speeches of all the distinguished men of the present rase on the subject of the Jrish Church, and it had su rprise, him that not one of the men t o w h om h e b a d a lluded had ventured to maintain that the success of that s ystehi had been cornmenstiesite with its objects. He th e° alluded to the speech of the Right Hon. Gentleman the Member for Ripon (Sir James Graham) in 1835, and te, the speech of the Ho n . M em b er f or O x f or d, both e` whom maintained that church property was the same 01/ .. private itroperty. Were th e p resen t a qu e st ion of sere 7 millions of men livi ng seven th ousan d m il es away,' might be dealt with differently, but the question cos' c<-rued seven millions of int-n at their doors, and was o° , :i so much a question of humattity as one of policy o° 4 justrc'. The prosperity and the peace of IreltrO_ sAnzht to be of j• ct, of the most serious importane. s t and he believed that nothing could exceed the enoriolV. et th e abuse ..f the Irish Church. They had never cone vet d any pert o f the, nation in their attempt to ignpeZ a tllo Cuthithe Church in Ire land. They never succeeec, in recle i in taking proselytes, although armies were put e 0 awl whole districts had been depopulated. we er) hr, heard Hon. Gentlemen defending Church prope.rtZ.,o Ireland, he could not help asking whether, it their Ile was as clear as it was vicious, they could show a sil o , Finkle of claim to their present Church temporali%, te. et. .‘t tef.t th. were on to show the relat t ' be eiee population bore W se if Catholic in the several provinces in Ireland. Be hie 3 d paid tithe in eight parishes in the dice of TOM Paid.