The Sun. — London, England, 1841-03-12 00:00:00

EVENING ED unoN. SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS. TROSI THE EVENING PAPERS OF YESTERDAY. (From the Globe.) The debates and resolutions of Congress and the gaine representatives, brought by the England, have nothing so surprising in them as the Report of the Committee on Foreign Affairs, and afford no additional reasons for apprehending a rupture, as they merely pro ceed tom the twofold sources of discord which we were already acquainted with—the local spirit of some of the American people, and the party spirit of others. The adherents of the party who have been lately de prived of power are making use of the popular suscep tibilities to embarrass their successors. It may, reason-. ably be hoped that the same reaction against their prin ciples, which had strength to expel them from power, will 'have strength to frustrate their attempts out of power. The difficulty of dealing with our independent American kinsfolk is the same which sometimes occurs in legal transactions with lesser associations—the difficulty of knowing by what name, or agent, they will sue and he eued—what responsibility they will admit or will abide by collectively. If the federal authorities had in any way soaectioned what they did not prevent (and what we can lairdly blame them for not preventing, in the present &We of their power)—the lawless acts, namely, of the "•antraordinary and adve- turous characters" on the fron tiese--then Great Britain must have already gone to war with the United States. Again, if the federal au thorities had seen proper to resent the treatment which we gave to their " extraordinary and adventurous (ammeters," then the United States must have already gpao to war with Great Britain, for most assuredly we coald have given them no satisfaction for that merited tee tut. But what a singular and anomalous position it ,ta, for the federal Government, which represents tliNa vesplo of the United States is their foreign relit lione..;-what an extraordinary position it is, for this Go ren:meat, which we must resort to, when aggrieved by arbrereeedings of the State authorities—that it gives no Age of feeling itself the responsible party towards te a ts nations—the power which has to pronounce iff the local authorities, against whom the British tatreeramont appeals to it in the case of a British subject, are, or are not, to be supported, in detaining that subject, by the will and force of the whole Union! That is the plain question for the federal authorities to decide. It can only be darkened by such rambling and ridiculous diatribes as that of the Committee on Foreign Affairs (or rather, Mr. Pickens of South Carolina.) (From the Standard.) The speech of - Sir Robert Inglis last night upon the the new. Jew bill may be fairly taken as the protest of tho religious portion of the British people, whom tho Honourable Member for Oxford so faithfully re presents, against the de-Christianising of this nation. Ma law of Engiand, from the earliest times, has assumed that the people of Engl Ind are a Christian people ; and for nearly 300 years had assumed that they are a Protestant people. The assumption was practically easy and obvious while the religion of the Sate was guarded by penalties. Penalties, however, ai they are the instruments of intolerance, have been justly and wisely laid aside, and the especially Protestant character of our State has been with less justice and wisdom abandoned ; but still, according to Inv, we are a Christian people. " The faith of a Christian" is still held to be an essential requisite of British citizenship. Is this intolerant? Then Chris tianity itself must be intolerance ; for there can be no question of the right of Any society, whether national or otherwise formed, to declare its profession and to act apoc the declaration. At is said by Coke (17 Co.lB. v.) —h is not "mlunt nec soluni" which constitutes a 11 , 414.30, but a compact of allegiance and law. The British nation, then, constituting a Christian society - by co mpact, ahem can be no theoretical intolerance is i iits strictly maintaining that character, unless Chris tianity itself constitute a form of intolerant;.. But is there any practical intolerance ? Questionless there is not. The Dissenters from ChriStianity who . feeds our shore?, or who, being born here, continue te live among us, attest by their conduct that the government of a Christian society is that which tbel prefer. They practically acknowledge that they 'have all the benefits which the bulk of man kind can ever hope to derive from good go vernment protection of life, property, and ho nour, an open field for the exercise of industry and adventure, with the most complete indulgoece in the eojoyment of their particular opinions ; in short. a perfect equality in all the unconditioned rights of citizenship. More, howtver, is now claimed for them; they are made to demand, in addition to the full enjoyment of the effect of good government, tic right of themselves constituting a part of those by whom the Government shall he administered. This is more than say one has fae right to demand absolutely. All - YMCA are enftled to be well governed—that is a univer sal right—but from it results this qualification, that no nag bus a right to share in the Government, except Vey, 'conditions insuring its general goodness. (From the Courier.) We see by the Paris papers of Tuesday, tl at the Chamber of Peers has convicted M. Delaroche, the Editor of tt e Nationnl, of the offence laid to his charge ; the toed ated front of which was an insiauction that the raves were old and antiquated, and were, therefore, ra ster fitted for the grave than for the exercise of legs iit'Orie duties. This offence seems so heinous in the'eyes of the Members of the Upper House, that they have condemned M. Delaroche to a fine of 10,000 france; about 400/. It would appear from this, that the Peers of France are somewhat more tenacious sof their dignity than those of other nations, and more particularly anxious not to be held up to the -world as being too old. The senators of Venice -did not seem to take any offence when Othello addressed them as " reverend seigniors," and as the counsel for M. Delaroche observed, our House of Lords were not dismayed when Edmund Burke called them a " House of Incurables.' To come to the pre sent day : the Radicals are exceedingly fond of attack ing the Upper House. O'Connell has declared it • nuisance, and in spite of the wholesome con trol it has exercised over the _ destructive meet: t urea of the Whigs, all sorts of insinuations md laccusations have been made against it. Its decision in the case of the Earl of Cardigan has 4beeta impugned in the coarsest and most injurious terms, end the insinuations have not diminished although is Judge at the Central Criminal Court, in the exercise of his honest opinion, directed an acquittal in the similar Case of Captain amglas. Yet that august body is not ,quite so thin-skinned as the Members of the Chamber of Peers, who estimate the damage done to them by a criticism upon their functions at the price of 4001. sterling. It may truly be said that " they order these thiogs differently in France." SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE. (LLOYD'S.) ' LoNnoll, MAacil 11.—Wind this day at noon, N.N.E., -Cm+ clear weather. DEAL, MAacii 10.—Wind, S.W.—Arrived her Majesty's ship Asia, from the Mediterranean. Arrived from the River, the Little Catherine. Alexander, for the Alusquito Shore; Georgians, Garden, Jamaica ; and sailed with the rest of the outward-hound, except the Renfrewshirc for St. John's. Ar rived the Eleanor, Newcastle, and sailed for .Malta. Po wrsiuotiTn, MA Re it 10. Wind, S.E.—Arrived the British Queen, (steamer), failed for New York ; Montreal, Turkey, sailed for ditto. Sailed Glenelg, Bombay ; Claudine, Brewer, Madras ; Sophia, Margaretha, iiaslop I'l - mcruth DA RT MOUT 11, MA [ICH ..B.—Arrived, the 1.0 3 tits, from I"er nainbueo ; Lucid, Gress, Antwerp. SWANSEA, MARCH 9.—Arrived Mary Ann, Valparais o , HOLYHEA D, MARCH 9 —The Mary Ann, from Cork to Liverpool, which was on shore in Carnarvon Bay, has been .got off, and brought in here. LIVERPOOL, 3IA Ron .o.—Wind W.N.W.—Arriv e d th e Lima, front Paraiba , sailed `.:4th Jan. ; Queen o f t h e Isles, M on te Video; Martha, Martin , Barbadors ; England, Waite, - New York ; Dili(rentia, Lisbont.tn Sailedi, Mauritius ; Tinamara, the Sughalien, B rown , for Singapore ; Vocdstock, us VVildlip, Pernambuco ; Emma, Graham, Monte Video l,era ; c 1 , ... ,z la i t ) ; a.eitrirn, Clements, Antigua; Bridget, ge 6 ,... 1 "' 01 . / e l r ra e ( i l g e n , , R ogers , H a - General Parkhill, Hoyt, New Yorkuern lax; Tarrow, Partridge, Africa ; Briton, Graham, Naples ; fiensam enta Felix, Solito, Oporto. Arrived off, the Q Victor'da, from New Orleans; Scotland , • New,recked on the York. The Patsf.y. from Clyde to Hasannah , was totally Is Cer.cus Reef on the 23d of Jan. ; crew and part of cargo r saved. O , JII2LN.SEY , MARon 6.—Sailed the Albion , pietta ; Taletta, Jansen, Gratzypt. Derutix, MARCH B.—Arrived the Sisters, nankin, from ,P.oncion ; &rah and Maria, 01.tridge, Trinidad. CORK, Alaacit B.—Arrived the George Gordon, Stirling, ' l l*Rl uras. Helen Mar (cotton laden), lat. 44, lon. 39, Asidire by the George Gordon, arrived at Cork, from Honduras , wh" she left 26th Jan. end reports that the Tyne would sail li r thet , c dargs after ; the Horn was loading ; the British Lady bail about thirty logs in ; the American schooner Ocean was 'Kest in Ghtmlico Bar, 9th Jan. SToccroN, MA RCII s.—Arrived the Bren, Sorenson, from Rotterdam ; Eugenie, Iloehef, Cherbourg. IIuLL, MARCH 1 0.—Wind W.—Arrived the Jane, Whit 4oall, from Bruges. SHIELns, 11.1aacu B.—Arrived the Rose, Lavalle, from Cravelines; Loreott, Pastel, Havre; Oscar Ernest, Carter, Dunkirk ; Julie, Benoist, ditto ; Petit Fortune, Wadoux, Gras-elines. Sailed the Thomas Rickinson, for Marseilles. YARMOUTH, MARCH 10.—The Elizabeth, from Carnarvon to Stockton, got on the Seroby Sand last night, but was.asi , ted ad' this morning. LESS ELS SPOKEN WITS!. The Whitton, from Liverpool to Port-an-Prince, 9th ult., lat. 19, long. 39, by the Essex, arrived off Ports mouth ; Wilson, of Whitehaveo, for Monte Video, lat. 44, long'. 14, by the Abeona, arrived at Bristol ; Lisle, of Baltimore, outward-bound, 22d, lat. 42, long. 33, b y the Robertson, arrived in the Clyde ; Hill, steamer, Cur lew, entering the Cape by Origa, arrived at St. Helena ; Calcutta, from London to Sydney, sth Oct., lat. 18, long. 31 ; Helen, from the Clyde to Port Adelaide, 10th, Ist. 29, long. 24 ; Queen Mab, from Liverpool to Cal. cottn. 27th, lat. 39, long 15 • Fairfield, from London to the Cap e o f Good Hope . and South Australia, Nov., Ist 39, 100 g. 48 ; Fenelon, from Calcutta to Bourbon, 30tb, lat. 8,, loug. 84 ; Rose, from 133mbsy to Singa. pore, 17th Dec., lat. 5, long. 89, by the Duke of Ar gyl, arristd at M a d ras ; Mid Loth i an, O ct . 23, l a t. long. 11 ; and Sulta n , from London to Port Jack son, btla Nov., lat. 36, long. 31. MYSTERIOUS CASE OF POISONING. We again regret to state that nothing has yet transpired cal culated to throw light upon the diabolical attempt at Mer rimsn's Hill. The Government has offered 1001. reward, in addition to that previously offered b y the Rev, Mr. Webster,... Worcestersh i re Chronicle, mPE It IAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, 112,wit 11. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY, in the absence of the Lord Chancellor, took his seat on the Woolsack at Five o'Clock. The Marquis of BUTE presented petit ns from Rothsay and other places in Scotland against Church patronage. POOR-LAW COMMISSION (IRELAND). The Duke of WELLINGTON said that, seeing the Noble Lord in his place, and understanding that there would be no opposition to the motion for the papers of which he had given notice, he would not now make any observations on that ,subject. It appeared that when the Poor-law Amendment Bill passed that House extraordinary powers were given to the Commissioners, but measures were takes by. Parliament to prevent the abuse of those powers without such abuse coming to the knowledge of the Government, the Parliament and the public. They were directed to keep an accu rate record in writing of all their proceedings, and no doubt if that direction had been minutely followed every transaction could be traced from its origin up to the order of the Commissioners. He would, therefore, move in consequence of the discussions which bad recently taken place, that a humble address be presented to her Majesty, praying that her Majesty would be pleased to order that there be laid before their Lordships' House an exact copy of the Records of the Poor-law Commissioners relating to the unions of Clonmell, Naas, and two other unions in Ireland. The Marquis of NORMANBY had no objection to the motion, but as he had led their Lordships to expect that Mr. Nicholls would be this day in attendance on the House, he begged to state ha had to-day received a letter from that gentleman, assigning two reasons for his absence, first it happened that he was absent from Dublin at the time the correspondence took place, and therefore he could give their Lordships no personal information on the subjeot ; and, secondly, that at the present moment, in consequence of the elections going on in all parts of the country for guardians, his absence from Dublin would be exceedinglyineoavenient to the pub lic service. He thought it right to state that those letters had been written before Mr. Nicholls had heard of the second complaint which had been made, and in conse quenco of that, he (the Marquis of Normanby) had written. to Mr. Nicholls, desiring him to come over at whatever inconvenience, and therefore be hoped that he would be present on Monday. The whole matter, however, could be explaired by Mr. Stanley, who had signed the letter, and who had offered an explanation to him, stating that there was no inten tion to deceive ; and indeed he (Marquis of Normanby) could not see what was to be gained by deception. He admitted there had been some irregularity, but as the explanation was very complicated it would be doubtless more satisfactory to their Lordships, to him self, to the Government, and to Mr. Stanley, that that gentleman should have an opportunity of giving their Lordships that explanation himself. Therefore as soon as the motion of the Noble Duke should be disposed of, he would take the opportunity of moving that Mr. Stanley be ordered to attend on their Lord ships on Monday next. The Earl of GLENGALL having brought forward complaints relative to the Poor-law Commissioners, was fully prepared to substantiate every allegation he had made, by evidence, either at the bar of the House or before a Committee ; and as to there being no inten tion to deceive he could prove by evidence that what was done had been done for the express purpose of de ception, and for no other'. . • The Marquis of NORMANBY said that would all come out at the proper time. He had not given a distinct opinion, but had stated that upon a cursory examination of these papers there did not appear to him to be any intention to deceive, and that he could not Fee what object could be obtained by such deception ; but at the acme time he had stated most distinctly that it was clear an irregularity had been committed. The motion was then agreed to. The Marquis of NORMANBY then moved that Mr. Stanley, a Poor-law Commissioner of Ireland, be ordered to attend the House on Monday next. Agreed to. ST. SULPICE. The Marquis of NORMA NBY then moved for a return of certain papers respecting the motion Of the Right Rev. Prelate (the Bishop of Exeter), which stood for discussion to-morrow. The Bishop of EXETER inquired if they were printed ? The Marquis of NORMANBY said he understood they were, and would be delivered to-morrow. Lord ELLENBOROUGH said their Lordships must understand that it was a difficult thing to read papers and proceed at once to debate upon them. He understood from what had taken place on the sub ject that her Majesty's Government would not advise her Majesty to disallow the ordinance within the period of thirty days, during which time it would lie on the t•tble of the House.—( Hear, hear.) He thought that it wood be desirable for the -Right Reve rend Prelate to postpone his motion until Monday or Tuesday next, as there would still be ample time to move the address to her Majesty before the thirty days expired. Under these circumstances he (Lord Ellen boroagh) would not now press other circumstances which appeared to him to be of the greatest importance, but would merely suggest to the Right Rev. Prelate that it would be for the convenience of the House if he would aocede to this suggestion. . . The Bishop of EXETER said he was sure their Lordships would not suppose that any personal incon venience whatever had induced him to state that he was afraid that it would not be in his poli er to accede to the am - Teat' on that had been made to him. He was at that moment under the orders of the Court of Queen's Bench, having been subpcened to attend at Exeter, at the present assizes, and he was bound to leave London early o❑ Saturday morning. Under these circumstances he would vent are to suggest to their Lordships that it was rather hard, on the eve of a motion of this kind, that an application of this sort should be made, the more especially as the attention of the Government had been called to this subject for a period of nine or ten days, and it had not been until the eleventh hour that they had thought fit ti lay upon the table papers that would seem to be important. He was afraid he could not attend on Monday next without disobeying a mandate of the Court of Queen's Bench. Lord ELLENBOROUGII inquirel if the Right Rev. Pre'we was obliged to be in Exeter on Monday next ? The Bishop of EXETER said he was bound pre viously to go to Worcester on businec.s of great importance relating to the Church, and to be in Exeter on Tuesday night. He under stood from the Noble Marquis these papers were printed, and as he supposed they could therefore have them early tc-morrow morning, he thought there would be suficie►:t time to consider them. The Marquis of NORM AN BY said that the parers had been ordered by the House of Commons on Tuesday, and he believed they were now printed. The Earl of RIPON said that the dispatch which was referred to seemed to be held on all sides as of great importance. The question now was, whether they ought to be celled on to give an opinion on a very im portant subject, to which everybody attached fie greatest consequence, without their having the means of considering the principles on which the mea sure rested, and which principles they were told were to be found in a certain despatch which they would not be able to read till to-mor row He had a p er f ec t reco ll ec ti on o f w h a t was contained i n th at d espatc h ;b years ago, h e cou ld not at thatu w t momentrittcn a u s it od was ertoi, te ot n o explain to their un L d o e r d d o sh r .is either th e p r i nc iples upo n the motives which induced him whichtto idv i i s t e w h a is s fo Majesty to send th at d espa t c h t o C ana d a . on such a qu es ti on withou"'ts iia t v h i e n y g o mo ug or h o t t n i o m t e to to decide Under those cirenmstan exa mine into it. Som earrangementlnement ought, he th oug ht, to be made by bar es Majesty's G overnment , the postponement a s they were concerned n of the discussion, that the i go oe us question ri b should b e p u t in the same position as it would have t o been in if e t h e thirty days required for t h e lie on the table of the House had not expired. What occurred in the present instance happened la s t in the Clergy Reserves Bill. It impossible to ear was to proceed on that occasion without the advantage of an assurance such as he referred to being given by her Majesty's Government ; and on the present if Minis ters would give a similar assurance the Right Rev. Prelate might be able to postpone the question. The Bishop of EXETER would accede to that proposition, trusting that, under the circumstances of his attending his Parliamentary duties, the Judge of Assize would consent to put off the trial. At all events, he (the ashop of Exeter) would undertake to bring forward his motion on Monday next, and he would mote that the order for proceeding with the mo tion to-morrow be discharged, and that the question be postponed till Monday. Lord ELLENBOROUGH suggested to the Noble Marquis opposite that it would be desirable to furnish their Lordships with a copy of the Letters Patent granted by Lord Bathurst in 1821 to the Roman Ca tholic Seminary of St. Nicolay, in Canada. Lord DUNCANNON then laid upon the table despatches of Lord Goderich relating to Catholic education in Canada. The Marquis of NORMANBY gave notice that in consequence of the arrangement that had been made with the Rev. Prelate (the Bishop of Exeter), he should move that the attendance of Mr. Stanley be postponed to Tuesday next.—Ordered. The Earl of ROSEBERY presented a petition most numerously signed for the abolition of Church patronage in Scotlana. He entirely differed from the petitioners, for although he believed that in the Pres byterian Church, no minister should be intruded into any parish against the will of the people, yet he was equally convinced that nothing could be more mis chievous to the Church than that ministers should be chosen by popular election. THE SUN, LONDON, FRIDIY, MARCH 12,1841 In answer to an observation from from the Earl of ABERDEEN, Lord ROSEBERY said he was not prepared to state what he thought would be the best guard against the intrusion of ministers. He did not think that Bill introduced by his Noble Friend list year was cal culated to give satisfaction, but for his own part he would be ready to co-operate with any of his friends who endeavoured to settle the question, which was the most import ant that had agitated Scotland since the Revolution. Ho thought, however, that at present there was 1 the prospect of a satisfactory settlement. The Noblc Earl then presented numbers of petitions against Church patronage from Fife, Cupar, and other places in Scot land. In answer to the Bishop of EXETER, The Marquis of NORMANBY said he would now move for a return of the Letters Patent granted to the Seminary of St. Nicolay. The papers would be laid upon the table to-morrow, when they would be printed and put into their Lordships' hands the next day. The Returns were ordered accordingly. The Marquis of NORMANBY presented a peti tion from the Society of Rational Religionists, praying for inquiry into the doctrines. He presented the pe tition, because he could not refuse to present one so respectfully worded ; but he thought the insti tution from which it came was mischievous in the ex treme, although some of the misguided persons belong ing to it might mean well. The Earl of RIPON inquired when the papers which ho moved for relating to Persia would be ready ? Lord NORMANBY—I will see about it —(A I 'nigh.) The Bishop of EXETER presented a petition from Penryn, against idolatry in India. TITHE COMPENSATION (IRELAND). On the motion of Lord DUNCANNON the House went into Committee on the Irish Tithe Compensation Bill. Lord GLENGALL suggested some alterations in a clause relating to notice to be given to persons before proceeding against them. Viscount DUNC A N NON considered that the clause would not have the effect apprehended, as in all cases due notice must be given before any money could be levied. The Earl of WICKLOW approved of the princi ple of the Bill, but while they were doing justice to the clergy they must not do injustice to the laity. He thought the clause in its operation would be attended with severity to individuals. Lord MUNTEAGLE doubted whether the clause as it stood would not operate very injustly. He thought that notice should be required before parties were brought into Court. Viscount DUNGANNON apprehended that the clause provided that already. The Earl of "WICKLOW would not object if that were the case ; perhaps the Noble Viscount would reconsider the clause. The Earl of GLENGALL said that practically notice would be given. He would suggest that service should he made by posting notices at the usual public places of the diocese. Lord MONTEAGLE suggested that if the clause were so altered as to prevent the Court making any order whatever without notice, it would meet all ob jections. After a few words from Lord DUNCANNON, the Bill passed the Committee without amendments, and the House resumed : the Biil was reported, and ordered to be read a third time to-morrow. COURT OF EXCHEQUER (IRELAND) BILL. The HOUEO then resolved itself into Committeo. on this Bill, which passed through Committee without amendment, and wal ordered to be read a third time to-mor►ow. The Bishop of EXETER inquired if there would be any objection to add to the returns respecting St. Sul pice a Report of Chief Justice Stewart on the subject ? The Marquis of NORMAN BY said that it was the desire of the Government to supply.every information on the subject, and there would, therefore, be no objection to the return treationed by the Right Rev. Prelate, though it was somewhat irregular to produce those of the legal advisers of the Government. The Noble MARQUIS then laid on the table the an nual return of the table of criminal offenders for 18a9. The House then Adjourned. church, Southwark, praying that Southwark, Waterloo, and Vauxhall Bridges might be thrown open to the public, and that the means for effecting that object might be raised by a tax upon coals. Mr. lIASTIE presented a petition from 4llissent ing congregation in Pa'sley, praying for the tot 31 abo lition of Church-rates. Lord JAMES STUART presented a similar peti tion from Ayr. Mr. WARBURTON rose to move " That the evidence taken before the Committee on petitions for private Bills relative to the Stafford and Rugby Rail way Bill be hid on the table of the House, and printed." He begged the attention of • the House, while he stated the facts of the case very shortly. Two years ago a railway was projected to pass from Stone to Rugby, and the 10 per cent. deposit required by the Standing Orders was made. The Ses sion having closed without the B 11 having passed, the deposit was taken from the Exchequer and lodged in a bank at Manchester—during 1840 that deposit re mained untouched. In the beginning of 1841 a new proposition was made—it was to make the railway from Stafford to Rugby—a petition for which was now before the Have. When this plan was first agitated, a meet ing was held of the old and new proprietors, an agree ment was come to, and a deed prepared and executed. The 10 per cent. paid into the Bank of Manchester was to be the fund out of which the 10 per cent. of the new Company was to be subscribed. All the Share holders of the old Company who did not think proper to join the new one were to receive back (after the account; were audited) the 10 per cent. they had deposited, deducting the paymeat of expenses. But all the Shareholders of the old Companies who be came Shareholders of the new were liable at a future period to the Directors of the old Company, who had advanced the sum necessary for the current expenses of the undertaking. They were liable personally to pay back their proportion of these expenses, amounting to something more than 50 per cent. on the amount of the deposit. The provi sional Directors of the old Company basing made that arrangement, gave the Shareholders, who joined the New Company, a draft for the full amount of their shares, and they paid their drafts into the Bank of Manchester, on behalf of the New Company. Now although the standing orders say that a deposit of 10 per ccnt.was to be paid,and that three-fourths of the subscrib ers should have paid theirshares on such deposits,yet they did not lay down any rule that the shareholders should not borrow the money for so doing. Under these cir cumstances he,thought it exceedingly desirable, in order that the Hoese might understand the working of the Standing Orders, that the evidence taken before the Select Committee be printed. Mr. R. PALMER having been a Member of that Committee, was anxious to offer a few observations to the House. The only ground on which he thought it necessary to print the evidence was that the Hon. Gentleman had stated the facts so fully and clearly, that the printing of the evidence would add very little to their information.—(Hear, hear.) The Hon. Member then entered into some details connected with the proceedings of the Committee, but he spoke in so low a tone of voice that his observa tions were inaudible in the gallery. Mr. GREENE suggested that the words, minutes, and proceedings be inserted in the original motion. Mr. LABOUCHERE trusted that his Hon. Friend would not ask the House to depart from the usual coarse adopted in cases of this kind. Unless some very special reasons were assigned for a departure from the usual course, he (Mr. Labouchere) would think it his duty to oppose any attempt at such a proceeding. Mr. WARBURTON intimated that he should, for the present, withdraw the motion, but that he should bring it forward at another time in a different form. The motion was then withdrawn. _ _ Mr. GROTE gave notice that he should postponr, from March 23, to Thursday, March 25, his motion on the subject of the landed funds of the colony of New South Wales. Mr. PAKINGTON gave notice that he would, on Thursday, March 25, call tie attention of dui House to the state of the colony of Nefoundland. Mr. HAWES gave notice that he should to-morrow, in Committee on the East India Rum, move the omis sion of parts of several clauses. Mr. EWART postponed his motion with respect to the Hanwell Asylum, and gave notice of his intention to move for a genertil inquiry into the subject. On the motion of Mr. HAWES, leave of absence was given to Mr Charles Buller to attend the Circuit. On the motion of Mr. WYS tL, leave of absence was given to Sir Montague Chapman on account of severe Mr. YRYME moved the discharge of the order for certain returns relative to Special Jurors. Sir It. PEEL observel that, as it was now an order .of the House, some reasons ought to be given for its discharge. Mr. PRYME said his reason for moving for the dis charge of the . .order was, that ho did not wish to oc cupy the time of the House unnecessarily. He had moved at the close of the last Session for certain re turns, and at the time the order was made, those re turns were net printed. They had Leen since, and he now found that .they were sufficient for all the purposes required. IRISH REGISTRATION BILL. Lord STANLEY then roLe and said, Sir, I will now redeem the pledge which I gave on a former occa sion, that within ashort time from the day for which the Order of the Day for the se and reading of the Registration of Vcters (Ireland) Bill stood fixed, 1 would state to the House the course which it was my intention to pursue with respect to it. Sir, I have taken time to corsi,ler the matter in all its bearings ; and ray only object being to place that Bill in the most favourable situation for ultimately passing this House and becoming the law of the land, I believe I best consult that object by removing any prejudice that might arise from the fact that- a sinAl majority of the House have confirmed the principle of the Bill of the Noble Lard the Secretary for Ire land, and I shall therefore move - that the order be read for the purpose of postponement, my in tention being to postpone that Bill from the 24th of March to Wednesday, the 28th of April, in full confi dence that on the 23d of April, the day for which the Government have now fixed their Bill, they will, without fail, proceed to the discussion of that Bill in Commit tee, and enable the House to pronounce upon the lead ing provisions of that Bill. The Noble Lord said, I may also take this opportunity of putting a question to the Chancellor of the Exchequer, as I see him in his place, in thc absence of the Noble Lord the Secre tary for the Colonies, who has givon notice that it is his intention to go into a Committee of the whole House on Monday next, in reference to the Acts re lating to South Australia. Perhaps the Chancellor of the Exchequer is now prepared to state td the House what it is the intention of the Government to move on that occasion, as the mere fact of the House going into Committee on the Acts relating to South Australia is not a sufficient notice, particularly if it be intended to bring forward a motion for a 'grant of public money. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER — The best way would be to giro notice of the resolu tion to-morrow. Sir R. PEEL—WiII the motion take precedence on Monday ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER— Yes. SCIENTIFIC INSTITUTIONS FOR THE WORKING CLASSES. resolvenous House e rw itself o i fl the upon h ien tfoo following Committeeng Wednesday,2‘Address d t the so sf of March, Mr. GILLON Cleo rose to move—" Tilat this tOh l l e7 i et whole h A do l al t ej ' e fi st o y i — lse L t a o cot is Ni t a o a that an h je:tyy: stating gth ube at m th l er i e kde Il dr er s ba es voted, by y i uti t t o her nates for the year 1840 41, the following sums—for the Uni versities of Oxf or d a nd Cambridge 2,000/., University of St. Andrew' s 1,009/. 13s. 4 d. , King's and Ma rischal Colleges, Aberdeen, 1,974/. Os. Bd., University of Glasgow 1,3601., University of Edinburgh, 2.,580/., Royal Society of Edinburgh 300/., Royal Irish Aca demy 3001, Royal Hibernian Academy 3001., Royal Dublin Society 5,3001., Belfast Academical Institution 1,950/, in addition to various privileges and advan tages enjoyed by various learned societies. To represent that while considerable sums are voted for the higher branches of' education, in the benefits of which the higher, and a portion of the middle classes participate, her Majesty will be pleated to tak e i n t o c onsideration the gr e a t benefit that would result to the working Cl asses if some assis tance, such as h er Majesty m i g ht deem best, were afforded, in populous towns, towatds the support of museums of natural history and works of art, and to wards the maint enance of Schools o f Art, in such man ner as would aid the efforts of the community in the prosecution of these objects ; and to assure her Majesty that this House will make provision for such assistance as her Majesty may be graciously pleased to direct." In doing so he begged the indulgence of the House, for it was a question of the utmost importance to the well being and welfare of the working classes. His attention was first called to the subject b y an application for as si!tance, which had been made from the School of Arts in Edinburgh. It would be a most gracious act on the part of the House togrant money' to such institutions, inas- much as the Royal Society and tile College of Edinburgh, which were for the improvement of the higher . classes, were supported by assistance from the 1)uulle purse. Education of the, Privy Council, but they said Application had first been made to the Committee on , were not there were no fuds under their . control from which they could g i v e any assistance. Th e House ought to consider the propriety of carrying on the education of the people Oiler they left sc h oo l , and w h en th e energies of the mind became invigorated. The object of the institutions now in existence, and which he wished to see supported by nation solely the improvement of the mechanic . in that p art i cu l ar line o f b us i ness to w hi c h his attention was daily directed ; by his labour a g it rc w a , i t is er no ci t ua t i o lti e t n y a o b f ls g lim oiodsttoo wing to the inn;kt, hut. the great object was to afford to the labourin g man a wholesome instructive occupation during his hours of leisure. The Hon, Gentleman then rem. an extract from an address by Mr. Hugo Reid, the brother of Dr. Reid, to whom Hon. Members were so much indebted for their comfort in that House, in support of his views, and also some remarks made by the President of the Edinburgh School of Arts on the opening of that insti tution in October last, in which the principle of giving the labouring classes information on matters connected with the various departments_ of trade was dwelt upon. He contended that the instruction of the la bouring classes of the population of that country would elevate the moral standard in their minds, and was a subject worthy the most earnest consideration of that House. He thought they would much better discharge their duty to the public, if, instead of wasting their time in the party warfare in which they had consumed the last three or four Sessions, and thereby impeding the course of useful Legislation in that House, by which they had brought their meeting considerably into contempt—he thought they would much better discharge their duty, if they devoted a portion of their time to the practical and moral im provement of the people, by removing the restrictions to free trade, and giving to all God's creatures the benefits of a moral and intellectual education. He would beg leave to call the attention of the House to different votes in the estimates of last Session, for the purpose of showing how other claims on the Legis lature were provided for. They had voted large sums for the Universities of Oxford, Cambridge, and Dub lin ; and they had voted sums for public museums, and for pictures in the National Gallery, 2,410/. They had voted for the support of captured negroes 25,000/. ; for negro education 30,000/., and for the negro expedition 61,263/. Now while they were ready to vote such large sums for the negro population, they should not forget so vast, intel ligent, and energetic a class as their own labourers. For convicts at home and in the colonies they had voted a sum of 73,000/. ; for convicts in New South Wales and Van Diemen's Land a sum of 235,000/. ; for the correction of juvenile offenders a sum of 5,807/. ; and for the inspecting of prisons a sum of 5,900/. While they bad voted such a sum for the punishment of crime, it would be but a wise and wholesome system of economy to give the means which eductation offered for the im provement and amelioration of the humbler classes. It was a duty incumbent upon the House not to neg lect the education of the great body of the people, who were the great and broad basis on which rested the welfare of the country. He thought they were pushing their benevolence too far when they relieved the wants of the negro population, and left a moral: wilderness at home. Another reason for asking for this assistance for the public was, a fear that the difficulties under which the labouring population . at present were, prevented there from deriving many of the benefits of these insti tutions, added to which the institutions were crip pled for want of funds, and many of their be nefits, instead of being conferred on the poorer classes, were received by the middle classes. If assistance could be afforded to these valuable insti tutions, enabling them to defray the rent of the pre mises which they occupiel, or the interest of the debt which they had incurred in their erec tion, it would confer great benefit upon the labouring population of this country. It appeared to him that the small and paltry sum which was annu ally voted for carrying on the education of the juvenile part of our population stopped at a very important point. Provision was made for the education of the young, but nothing was done to complete the work which was thus begun ; they were not encouraged and supported in those works of taste and those ennobling pursuits which would make them better men, better citizens, ' and better members of the great social community. Yet who had so good a right to such assistance ? Who was it that bore the public burdens? Who was it that paid the forty millions of taxes which were annually levied upon the people of this country ? It was the labouring population who supported the burdens of the country, who maintained the national superiority, who both manned and supported our fleets and armies, and to whose industry, enterprise, and skill we were indebted for our domestic comforts and commercial prosperity. Believing that this class were pre-eminently worthy of the attention of the Legislature, he sincerely hoped that the House would agree to his motion. Mr. HASTIE seconded the motion. Mr. LABOUCHERE said, it was unnecessary for him to assure the Honourable Gentleman on the opposite side of the House, that he felt the full importance of the subject which had been so ably brought under their notice.—(Hear, hear.) He was perfectly aware that a knowledge of art was of the utmost importance to the stability of the manufacturing prosperity of the country—on every ground, both pol - tieelly and commercially,, it was the duty of the House to promote the education of the people. These were his opinions ; but at the same time he entertained the strongest objection to the motion, worded as it was. It was a most important question, but because it w as so it ought to stand upon its own merits. Those compa risons of what was done for one class and what for an other were injudicious to say the least of them, and the Hon. Gentleman by drawing them put the question, which he had made his own, upon a very wrong principle. Bsth subjects were most important, but each ought to he considered and decided upon their own merits, and without any invidious distinctions being drawn. He should decidedly object to the motion as it stood, and ho trusted that the Honourable Gentleman would consider that his object would be as well accomplished by being .left in the hands of the Government. They were fully alive to the importance of the question ; they had done all in their power to attain the object of diffusing education all over the country, but if the House were to interfere it would only cause fahe hopes of assistance, and so tend to paralyse private benefactions towards such institutions as had been allu ded to. The Government were aware this country did present a 'most disadvantageous and discreditable con trast to other countries, in relation to schools of art. Very recently a beginning had been made, and he trusted a good beginning, which at no distant period would be attended with the most beneficial rsulls ; at the same time be must say, although it was very well to spend money in encouraging a taste for the knowledge of art and science, yet, unless care was takes that that money was expended upon a good system, they might run the risk of doing no good whatever. The firht thing, therefore, was to act upon a sure and definite principle, and to adopt some system by which they might be assured the money would not be thrown away. Two or three years ago, in consequence of the recommenda tion of his Noble Friend Lord Sydcaham a School of Design was established. The subject had engrossed the attention of many eminent men, and he believed Schools of Design had been productive of much good. Masters had been provided to instruct the pupils at a cheap rate in those branches of art, which applied more particularly to manufactures. The number of pupils in those schools had considerably increased within the three years they had been esta blished. Three years was certainly a, short period for producing any very great effect, but he had no hesita tion in saying, from what he knew of that school of design that the pupils had *heady attained very great proficiency, and he had no doubt that it would become a nucleus from which very important benefits would be de rived. They had been enabled to to give them masters taught at their own schools, and they had gone upon a principle which they thought was a very desirable one to be established, namely, that hereafter they insisted that all the regular current expenses of the schools should be defrayed by local subscriptions. Be cause if the Government was called upon to pay the currant expenses over which they had no control, they would lay a very heavy charge upon the public, without any commensurate bene fit.—(Hear, hear.) But the assistance afforded to central schools was of a very different character, and at the same time afforded great benefit to the local schools. They were now publishing elemen tary works on the subject of the various de partments of art and manufactures throughout the country, which had done much good. That was going on to some extent atpresent. Another way in which they might afford very important benefits to these schools, was to form a collection from all parts of Europe of models from which casts might be taken, and distributed at a cheap rate throughout the country. Ho trusted that was an object which would oe carried into effect in a short time.—(Hear, he sr.) He could assure the House that the attention of the Government and the school of design would he directed to the subject.—(Hear, hear.) They had already taken some steps towards improving the present state of things, and they would always he ready to adopt such further proceed ings as they might think expedient. When they found such a course practicable they might come down unhesitatingly to Parliament for a vote, for he was assured that they were too sensible of the value of a wise and liberal policy, not to know that as the re presentatives of a commercial and manufacturing country they were consulting its best interests, by supplying with a liberl hand the means of carrying into effect such an important obj ect as th e i m p rovemen t o f th e working classes. H e thou g ht, h owev e r , th a t th e pro position then before the House would be unnecessary and superfluous. Sir R. PEEL said that he had received a letter from a gentleman on the subject of a School of Design in that city, to which he would briefly direct the atten tion of the House. The application made to him was founded on the circumstance, that 20 years ago, he had been a subscriber to the School of Arts in the same city. If it were necessary to advance a suns of public money for the encouragement of a School of Design i n Edinburgh, he should have no objection to such a vote ; but ho should say that, considering the opulenc e an d prosperity of that city—considering its just claim to be at the head of science in Scotland, and the promoter of the liberal art?, he ceuld not hut entertain a sanguine hope that the affluent in Edinburgh, would contribute from their own fund, whatever might be wanted for tho piurploo. The 'tight 1 - 10. Gentleman then read a letter from a gentleman in Elinhurgle in which it was r st steel, that the School of Arts there hal been of the greatest use in enabling students to obtain a knowledge of the sciences, which might be useful to them in life, and that the school was numerously attended not only by boys, but by mea of . mature years, who were instructed in their different trades. When he stated that his correspondent was Mr. Hope, who filled one of the highest offices at the bar in Scot land, he was sure it would meet with the greatest atten tion. He agreed with the Right Hon. Gentlernal that it was incumbent on the House to consider the condition of the great population of this country, to bear in mind . what was going on in foreign countries, and not to let this country be behindhand with them in so great a work.--( Hear, hear.) With reference to the popula tion of large towns he thought that they could not take any measure which would contribute more to peace and order, or lay the foundation for loyalty and attachment to the State, than that of providing for the population of the country not only food for the mind but the means of relaxation from the labours in which they were en gaged, by permitting them to enjoy fresh air and exercise, and to participate in these manly sports which formerly were the pride of the country.—( Hear, hear.) For his own part he would most cheerfully provide, by a vote of public money, the means of setting apart a space near large towns for the purpose of the recreation of the working classes. The House, by adopting that course, would show to the labourers that amid their contentions they did not disregard the interest and welfare of the pcor. He could not conceive a wiser application of public money than that, and he hoped that the exarnpie set by the Legislature would be followed by the rich and in fluential classes who had derived their property from the labour of the artisan. He trusted that they would come forward and supply the means for so desirable an object. He had heard with great satisfaction that a measure had been introduced' for the purpose of con tributing to the welfare and the enjoyment of the la bouring classes. It might be very well to leave these great classes in the enjoyment o f sensual indul gence, and to the influence of low and degrading habits —it might be very well to charge persons with en couraging infidelity and irreligion.—(Hear, hear.) His firm belief was that they were encouraging not merely ' morality, but that they were encouraging the Christian religion when they rescued them from debasing habits, when they tried to convince the work. ing classes of this country that science was not exclu sively confined to the rich, when they showed that they had confidence in them, and did. not suppose that by admitting them to participate in the advantages of sci ence you prepared their minds to be perverted from religion. Compare the evils of leaving them as they were left now to the influence of low and degrading vices without any means whatever of occupation, and of giving them access to good pursuits, and thus prevent. ing them from having recourse to bad ones, and then let any man decide whether it was right to give to the working classes of this country the means of improve ment in the arts and sciences of this country, from which they derived the means of subsistence, instead of leaving them to the evil influences to which he hail referred. Having been a subscriber to that institution 20 years ago he had proved at least that his opinions were consistent and uniforne.—(Hear, hear.) He en tirely agreed with the Right Hon. Gentleman that it would be of the greatest importance to collect from all countries models of the inventions for which these coun tries were justly celebrated. They did very great injustice to the ingenuity of other countries when they fancied that they had same exclusive monopoly of mechanical inventions. It was just the reverse. The capitals of other countries showed a most skilful adaptation of machinery to manufactures, and the Right Hon. Gen tleman would find in the records of the Board of Trade a letter addressed by himself to the Right Hon. Gen tleman (Mr. Poulett Thomson) four or five years since, earnestly recommending that measures should be taken, through our diplomatic agents in foreign countries, and by application of the public funds, for the purpose of collecting models. He recollected sending to Mr. P. Thomson a letter of Mr. Richards, a great manufacturer at Birmingham. who had travel led i❑ all parts of Europe, and who was exceedingly struck with the models which he had met with. The chief objection felt by the Right Hon. Gentleman with respect to these models arose from the dif ficulty of providing any room in London for their reception and for their proper examination. He felt convinced from what passed that if there were any objections to the particular form of the Hon. Gentleman's motion, there were none whatevsr to the principle on which that motion was founded. They should recollect—many of them at least—from what sources their own fortunes were derived.—(Hear, hear.) The inferior classes ought to be furnished with the means of acquiring perfectly rational informa tion. He (Sir R. Peel) insisted, in' every institution with which he was connected, that the education should be conducted in conformity with the principles of the Church of England. He made that a condition for the admission of children in all those schools, and he thought it a just conditio❑ ; but the . consequence was that boys, when they arrived at thirteen or fourteen years of age, were turned out of the schools in great !mashers. He would suggest then, that a reading-room should be established in each locality, and that precautions should be taken that whatever means of knowledge should be afforded to the working classes they should not be capable of being perverted to a bad purpose. Mr. LABOUCHERE thought that the establish ment of central schools would be attended with great benefit, as furnishing the means, by their local aelvan rages, of normal schools being founded in each particular district. Mr. E WART said that the speech of the Right Hon. Baronet would have a useful moral effect on the country. He was glad to see the recommendations of the Committee, of which he and the Right Hon. Baronet had been members, adopted by the Government. He now rose principally to call the attention of the Presi dent of the Board of Trade to a sugge,fon of the Committee relating to the conversion of the central School of Dcsign into a normal school, upon the prin ciples- stated in the memoir of Mr. Dyce, the rector of that school. He was convinced that these principics would ultimately prevail. lie was sure they were sound ones, and that any expense incurred in the taking of these casts would he amply repaid, not only in a commercial point of view, but also in the increased en lightenment and intelligence of the people. He believed that by creating schools of design, circulating casts and works of art, it would be found that, so far from there being any inaptness far works of art on the part of the people, they were capable of speedily rivading any other nation. Mr. WILLIAMS was gratified to find that the Right Hon. Gentleman (the President of the Board of Trade) had taken so favourable and judicious a view of the subject. There was evidently a great anxiety on the part of the people to improve themselves in these departments, for in the schools of art at Somsrset House there were not less than 500 pupils, and in the school at Spitalfields, which had not been more than three months established, there were already a considerable number. It appeared to him that the great towns ought to contribute to the support. of these Schools of Design, and if the Government would only advance 1,0001. for the establishment of schools in the four principal seats of these manufactures, raenely, Man chester, Glasgow, Coventry, and Norwich—(Much laughter)—they would confer very important benefits upon the people. The advance of manufactures in France and Prussia was entirely owing to the esta blishment of Schools of Design in the various manu facturing districts of these countries. Mr. WAK LEY felt bound to put in his claim for Finsbury, if there was to be any grant of the public money.—(A laugh.) But was there to be any money ? There had been a most interesting conversation, there had been a most admirable—a noble and most philan thropic speech-e-from the Right Hon. Baronet—(He7.ir, hear)—a speech which would give delight to millions of his countrymen—a speech which the Right Hon. Ba ronet would be reminded of when he changed his posi tion—(A laugh)—when he would have full power to carry out his noble views. But what would the Go vernment think of this to-morrow—or would they think of it at all ? He thought not. They had enough on their minds at present—enough to do to maintain their position, to ward off the heavy blows aimed at them by the Gentlemen opposi:e, and in the struggle they would foilget what was intended for the people by the motion of his Hon. Friend. The people wanted money—(A laugh)—and money they must have ; they would no longer put up with kindly expressions of sentiment on the part of Hon. Members. Now, the question was, would they get any money ? He thought not. Now, why was this ? He would ask, was it not a matter of importance that the people should be instructed and amused ? Was it not rational that.such a motion as that of his Hon. Friend should be made—was it irrational to expect that it would be negatived ? He hoped it would not be. He would beg his Hon. Friend to with draw his motion, not to run the chance of its being ne gatived, and let him introduce it again ; let it be free from all invidiousness, let it be a simple proposition of voting a cort&n sum of public money for public purposes. He had occasion to mix much with the working classes, and he very frequently heard them-complain of the vole of 70,000/. for the stables at Windsor. He heard that complaint almost every day of his life, and generally put in contrast with the miserable vote of 30,000/. for the education of the people. It was the ceuse of great discontent out of the House, and was the means of creating much indigoation in the breasts of the people towards the Houses of Parliament. He had been at a large meeting that morning, where the working classes were very numerous ; the question put t o th em was, whether they should petition the House against the Poor-laws, and the language they held was this—" Why should we petition the House?--it does not represest us, and there is nothing but class legislation ; the House of Commons! We despise and hat e it ; th ey tyrann i se over us ; we will not petition." Now, was not that dangerous language to be constantly in the mouths of the people? The Right Hon. Baronet and the Right ;lon. Gentleman seemed now willing to vote the olontl,y, and he tensed that it was not too late, He hoped that his Hon. Friend would consent to with draw his ;notice, fO'r the isurpole intrtiduoing it in EV ENINTG EDITIO I s r b e another shape ; and, after what had taken place' - had no doubt he would effect hi.: object. Sir It. PEEL—As the Hon. Gentleman had told nun that he would he reminded of his speech of tha t night, he wished that there should be no mi stake inr° all the matter. -What he had said was, that in his oeit. dependeece ought to be placed upon local el Lion. n on. He would only remind those who made ingai cent promises and eloquent speeches in favour of t 7 poor, that they need not wait thi they put their a " 1)21.0 in the public purse. The Hon. Gentleman O friends might apply themselves to fulfil their own Pr e ' dictions by voluntary contribution.—( Laughter.) j Mr. HUME—If the Right Hon. Baronet intend% to allude to his friends around him, he could ats ar t him that they had not been backward upon the sukt ec j —(He ir, hear.) He would entreat his Horn Fu c t ° i i to withraw his motion, for it would not be Well Eh°. t th , s , should be negativod. He could not help taking opportunity of offering publicly his toanks for t,. course which the Right Hon. Gentleman had pursoeat He hoped that he would look with perfect. re( 3 a t ri °3ll3 t o and disregard on every attempt which was m a w - I misconstrue his really benevolent and useful intentiool; He was found to say, that in his conversAions wit( the Chancellor of the Exchequer and the Presld clit° the Board of Trade, their difficulty had been, not 0 9 the propriety of affording means, but how to aff°l.' them without preventing private individuals from ,c°; firming their support. No later than last Session, D°l those individuals had assured him, that i f any lad could be adopted for placing institutions 'upon a rki -fog footing, and providing for the education of the w` be they would be prepared to support till; and as his Honourable Friend had s poken ef 70,0004 voted for the stables, w hilst e t ' - ,1 to te a o . objects were neglected, he beeg ed him that 15,0001. had been expended by the Ga v t e io r p, ment, in order to give that opportunity fur recrea - A go which was so essential to mechanics and to lived in the crowded parts of the metropol:s.--(tit hear.) He was bound to say, that the Ge'," c g,Trot had shown every disposition to provide holt" — , or creation for the public. Hampton Court. when -rqbt pleted, would hold out a collection which EuroVaih-0.5 be challenged to equal. He (Mr. Hume) wou ld : - 108 obtala to , to appeal to the House for the purpose of admission for the public to the national °0 meets in Westriainsler Abbey, which, to the g h r e e. those ao, discredit of the parries concerned, had so 100 g " be t secluded from the public eye. He hoped th at o r Majesty's Ministers would also accede to th e Ott,. pliestion ,iiieii had been made to them b Y populous district of the Tower Hamlets wit h ro ll providing for the recreation of the peopl e. , n otes highly important that enclosures of five or S'S 110 should be made for the amusement of the P °°l.. .teta l trusted that the general expression of desire to to the comforts, and he would say, to the hu ala ; of the classes who had hitherto been 50 let t iO , glected, would lead to the adoption of some P o r l e osit measures for their benefit.—(Loud cries of hear.") He could not hear any allusion to the P-000 collections without recalling the time when it wa s ro ld that they could not trust Englishmen as tb e l;is( l ' foreigners. They could now look back to tint 9 ;00 At present 25,000 persons could pass throug h 8 ih-ecol'.. dwelling on one day without the least injury lection. He would only say in conclusion , that i; step that might be adopted, it was most desirtn, the public money should not be applied t evc° ''''' e tir current expenses, which, in his opinion, should b vided for out of other sources. , gtel' Mr. GILLON replied. He had heard olt,l,,potli pleasure the opinions o.f the Right lion. the Member for Taaaworth, and he could ao tir boo l l that although lie withdrew his motion now, gist! take another opportunity, in the course of the Scss- reminding him of his statements. The motion was then withdrawn. COLONIAL LABOURERS. ;JO Mr. MACKINNON then rose for A ;.', If Committee to ascertain the expediet t i o c mu o v fe d e,: Pde bour_ers into the colonies of Great Br y itain 5 0(1 , / ,,"; r O a : prideue;es. It was not his intention to adu — ra s ber House at any length, but he thought ittva rol s la n :t e loo 1 on the Government to come to some the subjsct. If they considered dee the v ast te rriterl fb et Guiana as compared with Jamaica and some °I the w °ol4 colonies of this country, he thought the 0° 166 ot oi t agree with him that the present was a most i 0 Poio; question, and he must say that he found some ft, be the Government for the manner in w hich tilv: tito treated it. If the Government wished the h ll P ° „", ls tgli t i of Hill Coolies into their West India po sses sl° ,, - 0 ° l i. not adopt some legislative measure icii . the P ur ctis 6e ,' showing what their intentions were. He w° tl3 6 e - P e ub so l i something ought to be done, but he thought opinion in Great Britain should be consulted beibripseo legislative enactment took place. If anythiog ccffierto/ him of this it was the conflicting statetnents CI " is . etl ° , l : Secretaries of State. A decided discrepaneY e . c it s - o t i b r a the subject between several of the functions:lr' Sob Majesty's Government, and he thought that the / 0 0 11 Lord opposite (Lord J. Ru sse ll), or 'any eth er a $ P of t h e on thethis Government, had sufficient time to prep tr subject which would be satisfactorY bi country. 0 00 An HON. MEMBER here moved that the A. ° o o ol ' counted, when there being only 24 Members kP the House adjoorred at Half-past Seven oCl°°-. RUSSIA. St fr - 16 4 RUSSIAN FRONTIER, FEB. 2 . —Accounts fleaernlo4, tersburgh give reason to fear that the Russian , ora l a l iro will be obliged to contract a new loan. As the ' 33 % $t l'iale ag of this necessity, are assigned the expeditions •' s l h i e l f it e s' and Circassia, the equ;pment of the fleet both la a t tlo a isa and the Baltic, the erection of many new builclieg% jae[eo pence of the Treasury; such as the palace in ' d pac i t 'i o o burgh and Moscow ; the marriage of the Gr a° oleo. Maria; the journeys of the Imperial Family ; the e va n 0 0 Of trade, particularly in Moscow, where there ha ° bia kh,e r , o o l short time above two hundred bankruptcies ; l h-e . 0 31/ 1 5, id i in the last two years ; file great and expensive a.';', Di - cce troops, and lastly, the large levies of recrtor t l ar e. t her.l numerous hands have been withdrawn from agr i° ire' 8 ; ' sidering, however, the immense resources of the Mal' s. 0 0 ,4 . is no doubt that the finances will soon be in a he,t'., ° , o or e k only peace is preserved, of which there is every 0 , 4 1 50 0 11 bability. The Emperor is very active, and does la oi l remedy the general distress. half ,46, The plague has appeared in a Circassian villaP'a a 5 ? 1 tr, journey from the Jerek, which may perhaps oceas.r t s , salLaer, sion of the Russian operations in that quarter. 6 sa atr,loo: the Emperor has expressed a wish that instead of g P`e, o lo' mont, who has been recalled, a military character °oil"' as Austrian Ambassador; it is added that Major- es 0° L'Urbria is expected at Petersburgh, which niallesc,ool, that he is intended to represent Austria at the Russi an s s 9 0 lois: differences with France arising out of the EPP s ae pl' having caused fears of an interruption of Pea ce ' a slt ' l ' o ll Cabinet applied to the Swedish Government to, - 0 004, would do in case of war. It answered that the .'l lti p aoP 0 ;91 0) country, the interests of al its subjects, and , th : 'I g o"; prosperity prescribed strict neutrality ; but ta.t is l iofr e ole means were adoated—for instance, if the trantla l id pot were menaced by a war of propagandism—it ir°4 to take measures for a vigorous defence. .4,10 s. l ., sit Co r a THE NEW SCROLL PATTERN o , 1 4, dytl' i —A. B. SAVORY and SONS, Goldsmiths, have re nt a c e hill, London, opposite the Bank of Englanda a eleg a d t !., SILVER WAITERS of every size from t°' 9 11,a, '", c arir centre tastefully engraved by hand with s Iv Design, the border is after the style of Lo uis epee ioe ll° 7 Pt',,, ,G tion or for armorial bearings. Salvers. Size. weight. ,oo 6cl. i 6 1- 0 is 1 New Scroll Pattern 8 in. diameter 12oz.st • .. 0 1 1 ..• 1 ditto 10 I ditto 1 4 I . ditto 15 ...42 '''' ..' ita t6l 1 ditto 18 86- ''''''''''''''' tile' N.B. A Price Current, stamped as a NearsParelatire_aaliel by drawings, and containing every information h a d an at, purchase of Silver or Sheffield Plate, may he, nastage' tion, or will be sent into the country, fr ee c r • 0. swer to a paid letter. . ~ o'o 0 A ri• ii' PATENT LEVER WA - 1 6 6 With silver double-bottom cases ............. .. . ..... .'' . 7 ' . 5' 410 0 1 , 1 With silver hunting cases ........... ..1.1•0 o_o, , This celebrated construction (the most late' t,taili°,;P:obolea4, a watch can be made) is now offered, with theedlin foel is asw ie ments i. e. the detached escapement, j capped, hand to mark the seconds, hard ename l at tb ~ taining power to continue going chile winding tiP'. h ow price. ea sl A printed warranty is rat' Watches will always receive any attention nce ea cle J *T. COX SAVORY , bil l ° given, with fixed terms , re Watchmaker, Silver and Goldsmith, 47, Ger ! '" , 9 . from GaacechaTch-street), Lon& a hang .. ,f erio r i ' v tie lcb l s ' N. B.—Second-hand Watches purchased la °P. ' .. P' ' ' llv tl TABLE CANDLESTICKS, su,P eaf idle i .' o , 1 5 ,, for durability, equal in appearance. Table 10 j a cr! ,,b ,l o , inches high, - 7s. per pair ; 9 inches high, 9s ' 'i n ches bl e d e e l ii per pair ; ditto, with rich shell mounting!, v ' an d chi!, sti' ad per pair; snuffer trays, with shell mountinghcets th i e:id p tre, 4s. each. The particular metal of w n on ly b' 1 great variety of other articles are made, ca n ra tis. ~,t. silver by reference to the stamp. CataloguelFreedastrr- RIPPON and BURTON, Wells-street, Val 0 41 BIRTHS. I °ll 00 1 of On the Bth inst., at Shipton-le-Moyne, G wife wife of the Rev. J. al. Capes, ers et, tbe Of On the Bth inst., at Shepton Mallet, Soi,u_ e. ..rg eo Arthur Constantine Phipps, Esq. ,of a c lau ,g rli stl ., . 1" i r on the 9th inst., the lady of G. MottieY, Stel llie Duke-stet, St. James's, of a son. Lady gar!.........,,,/ On the 10th inst., in Arlington-street, son, of a daughter. afall' ~'tiel ', all MARRISD• ...On the 27th of October last, at Port Louip jijeieljest major Henry John Savage, Cranmanding 110Ya,',., ra, c i d' Surveyor-General i'n that colony, to Clara L.'„ e °l o 0" daughter of C. A. Mylius, Esq., her Majesty'i '-'' N ' .60 sioncr, Seychelle Islands. f the 13c 0 1 0 th On the 9th of November, at Arica, at the house 0 . t, Vice-Consul, John Gallagher, EE Al Dof Areq ulP lit er America, to Isabella Hamilton Robertson, chl e ' t (164 er Archibald Robertson, Esq., of Chatham, Kent'. ..,00, On the 9th inst., at All Saints Church, SO"' Vjotliliest, F. K. Holloway, Esq. of Marchwood House, new• 5-:.,,ik.e1,11, ton, High Sheriff of the county of Hants, to M ai l .." 4: ' "D daughter of Peter Breton, Esq., of Polygon 1100 s" ampton.' --------------- rel ief DIED. e On the 9th inst., at Mitcham-green, Surrey, Ma i l' th e , „ v s, of the late W. 13artley, Esq. Esses, ag ro, On the 25th ult., Mr. John Sadd, of Maldon, Tooll'ity On the 6th inst., at Southampton, Lucy Rebefca..eijet 01 lateO jn. th G e ro 7 o th me in , s r t. s , q a ., t aßgreodrrit.op_t.on-r osv, Elilabetn, A n of 015—' .n. ----;—;,-n y - J.., London: Printed and Published by MU itv,-, 00 N 11% S No. 112, Strand, at The Sue Oitlec, --' n 041. the county of Alidthesex.--Friday, March .1-A) ROUSE OF COMMONS, MAncu 11. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'Clock. Mr. ALSTON brought in the London and BlAck wail Railway Bill, which was read a first time. SEVERN NAVIGATION BILL. Mr. ESTCOURT wished to call the attention of the House to the Report presented yesterday by the Committee of Selection. It would be remembered that the day berme yesterday it had been tnoved and carried that it be an instruction to the Committee of Selection to consider whether the rile usually adopted in ordinary cases of private Bills, of referring such Bills to a Select Committee chosen from names in the Speakers list of gentlemen connected with the par t ct.lar counties to which such Biti referred, together with certain othergentlemen unconnected with such loca litieF, should be adopted in the ease of the Severn Navi gation Bill, or whether in the Committee on that Bill it would be better entirely to omit all those whose names appeared in the Speaker's list, to have it composed of gentlemen eutircly unconnected with the localities to which t'ee Bill related. The Committee, in consequence of that instruction had met yesterday, and had agreed to a Report, to which he now wished to direct the attention of the House. The Report stated that the wording of the instruction plainly indicated that it was intended that the Commit tee of Selection should exercise a discretion in the mattee ; but as the Committee had been appointed for a particular purpose, and bad no power of sending foe persons, papers, or documents, they reported to the House that they were not in a condition to form a judgment, and he Gould not but think that it was im possible for them to exercise any discretion re specting the matter of the instruction. It was a great objet that persons should be selected who were perfectly unbiassed and uninstigated by any pertial;ty. He had lost no time in stating to the House these preliminaries to the motion he had to submit, which was, that the Order of the House that bad lei to the embarrassment should be discharged. All that he had been aexious to do was to rescue the House and the Committee from the embarrassment into which it bad got. The Hon. Member concluded by moving that the Order of the 9th of March should be discharged. Mr. L A BOUCHERE said that the statements of the Hon. Member opposite must satisfy the House that the Committee of Selection bad done all that they could do. To those Members who were present yesterday he need not say that he had heard with regret the decision which the House came to, as he considered it was likely to break down those orders which the House had previously made. He could sot but think thrt the course taken by the Committee of Selection had releued the House from a situation of great 'per plexity. He concurred with the . arguments the Honourable Gentleman had brought forward, and he would therefore support the motion he had made. He thought the House was greatly indebted to the Committee of Selection for Cie course they had adopted. . _ _ Lard G. SOMERSET said that when the order was discharged, he should give a notice for a motion on the subject to-morrow. The order teas then discharged. Lord G. SOMERSET then gave notice that he should tu-inorrow move that the Severn Navigation Bill should be referred to the Committee on Private Business instead of the Committee of Selection. Mr. EVANS presented a petition from a congrega tion of Protestant Dissenters in Derbyshire, praying the House to adopt measures for the extinction of Church rates, for the abolition of Ecclesiastical Courts, and for the immediate liberation of Mr. Baines ; believing that such measures will put an end to strife between re ligious parties, and promote the prosperity of the Church. Mr. RAIKES CURRIE presented a petition from Long Buckby, in Oho county of Northampton, to the same effect. Mr. FRES HFIELD presented a petition from Penryn and its vicinity, deprecating the connection which exists between the British Government and the super stitious idolatries of India. Mr. ROUND presented a petition from the Poor law Guardians of a union in Essex, against the in crease of the powers of the Poor-law Commissioners in the management of the infant and infirm poor ; and complaining of the expense which attends the present sy stem. Mr. PEASE may . towns may b e ext resented a petition from the town of Stockton-on - prayin g th at any regu l at i ons w hi c h the House Tee: ,n o d pt i for th e i m p rove d c l eans i ng o f adopt for the improved cleansing ot towns may be extnded to that place. Mr. BOWES presented a petitio n f r om some of the mr G . uNair,KEN diaus of the Union o f St oc k ton - on -T ees against the 25th section c( to that pl ace . Mr. BOWES of the P oor -l aw A men d ment ZIE present e d a pet i t i on from Peebles, praying for the total abolition of Church Patronage in Scotland. Mr. a petition from th ree i sheriff' HODGES presented s bailiffs, complaining of loss whi c h t h ey have suffered under a recent act of M r . D . W . Har vey, veyilra.nGd IpLraLyiongNfoprrecsoemntpeednsaaptieotniton from th e P revost . Magistrates, and Town Council of Greenock, that the system of re g istralion of bi t .," , Praying I, ,deaths, and marriages, be extended to Scotland. Mr. DAIRY presented a petition from a place i n the county of Han t s a g ainst the Poor-law Amendment Bill, and praying for a large reduction in the number of Assistant Commissioners. Mr. G. KNIGHT presented two petitions, with a similar prayer. Mr. E. BULLER presented a petition from the county of Stafford, praying the House to pass some measure giving to the rate-payers a more efficient control over the expenditure of the County Rates. Mr. M'KINNON presented a petition signed by two thousand inhabitants of the parish of Christ. 0 [t ~'.~ 6%1 , ' 1 of 1 , 1 1 —iffezp i • Rabbit, Band P t i lr i t e e l l ets, Pil *et ~i r lie o rafi 14 %, o t in , t o r kr Y. •--.........:2:. I; yV ~~ ~~