The Sun. — London, England, 1816-03-26 00:00:00

. . ject of the Iton. Gentientat he eoileeiVed, Might tie obtained by moving' for the annual returns of their names. • Mr. Toomtlio‘N 'said it ;was his object 14) aiicer;. taint how tar the Act of 1810 had been carried in, to ',Get ; if its operation were bßueticittVi and if the individuals, placed on the sUperannukted list were entitled to the'rewattit they had oblititted. The CHANCELLOR of the Exbitztiuritt wished ilie-llon."Gentirmao to withAraw his motion for the tuysent, and to look at the anneal accounts, in ojAcr to see if these would "not answer his por-' ' c ' .111r.7'tlostesoN did not wish to pre“ his RIO= wlthiltliir it fii i r the pre -sent, till be hirdiiiiiketlat tlie`patierS Whith • hail hien referred."' The thotiOrs Was then Withdrawn. TLtE tstimATEs. Mr. W. WYNNR moved that the 'paper before the House, respecting. the late appointment of Sir T. Thonsinu, ,should be printed, In order to , bring this sitbject before the Ii use, he gave nts- Jice that on an early day he should move for a new writ for Rochester. Mile on his legs, he ,wished to mit the Noble LOrd opposite if fresh i , fitruttes were to Made :on the several heath ref expenditute, in be room those which had :been withdrawn )• Lord CASTLEREACHI said, the object of his No, sble• "'view) (Lord ralmertston) in withdrawing the estimates, 'wits to lake an opportunity' of connection, .the amount olthe reduc tionkto be .made in the course ot the present year. It , sortie of the debates which had taken-place, he (Lord Castletragh) • thanght, he,had deprecated !he disposition shown by soutc'of the ,Geniletnen opposite to consister The; eginustcs am a part. if Llle I)chtnauctit peace estahlisluneoti-or even to consid eve esdloseoli , thenr; as,.that which was to e.onlinue th'rottgliont the resent year. It WRS tht trtsts cif Goversncut.:to,makeltomediattAY till the reatiotions which could be safely effected in 'Ow 41 . 300014 mm as it was their hope to , heing fo r . Ward tetimatceltiateriallplitlerentio 'paha of vx..; . ptttise h (*.future year. Ilia 'in consequence:of the ilitpositkm which had been manifested to ,ar- Roc on the Bstimates, 4.,it :the exPenso on them Were to continue throne) the:whole of the teat year ''lris Noble Friend bail Wl3betl to with- , draw ahem, in order to slew them the various items before the yettr expired. It was intended to let the Dilute see (a nearly. as this. could he clone) Sehat be-the trxpetrse of the cod of the Year, its well:As:that of' the beArnising. To stecomplish such a tusk' ivitlt'all (hr A - igilatiCe that ptiSsibly be eXerted; 'it e a rs olsvions die tildrytieeesSaryOutst',take sonic toutitlerablii time.' A part of th,e reductions contcutplated, from IOC& cirennietanee ctuthi , not be domplitett at: 'the. cam .j.itencement of the year. The object of hfs'Niifile . Friend, be ' . Wishtd it to be undi!rsebtal, / to spew the 1.-luti s t what changes' had been what Were. now making, and lioliat would in the 'course of 'the presetWkytar. The' flOase voted he 'enabled to see ltritvlong grime of the* eiipeitees which appeared onsthreitimates would emit lime, It•would be seen 'whit't 'Were to teOhtitl 161' litre(' or six ht what for tit loogerpc liud.: its thief' resPe t . the eititnates 'to be . vvotild go fOrttieitlfan those'whidi had been altehdy'bcr ore the !louse.. • Mr. WYNNE express'val satisfaction at the altered 'shape of the I?.St'iniqtes. - The'eOhtte purified afree' thelicate of 010 or 1'783,'40ti 'data 1802'; and ltdteo - to ItrOduce'estiatiltes rot . rneAftst, third 'of the year, in order to sittlible tire" fleiaseliVi edge rif the redact inns which irktqts paiYydsed tie ntakeAte could wish this had been Amiens) the p'res,ent Occasion. lie begged Wl* to a . sk, if any vieW would'be given In die ilt\Veitiiii3ftSi of the nnmber of General and Stall. Officers, and Officers of the Oednatice, 'serving ori•foreign outdone, as had been given of thOsc ltei.ving at home: If this' were &Me,' he should' ttitkeeifor'Aititifar returns of the number of OtSders terVidg Abroad in 179 . 2 And thiit these nfighr be' ehwprired %,i'ith the pri4nt bora CASTIAREAGH 11,npea the honourable (it IQ 1(4).1 11 fwilsOnti his'ninticfn ff'h the pre . - tem, Oil his Nol ) le Friend had-brottglit forward hit es: imates„ when lie (Lord Paluteritiin) *mild take a'n oppoilimity oldiseribing•the reductioos, to be made on the Foreign its the course of the present year ; and he did 'tint foresee any . ob. jeition tits the part of the Noble Lukd 'to the pro'- thiet!on of the returns alluded for With respect to . the returns Air the three lirtit quarters of the ivhich the lion. Gentleman 'wished for, he dirt not see' that erne be 'given, but those about to,he brought forward, drool the arrange ment' he hid treseribed;''woUldr, he 'apprehended, answer Ilk purpose.' ' • Mr. - WiNNe postponed his motion for the pre sent. Mr. BENNETT moved for Itetttros of the Dates tlf the Recorder's lteportit, distiogolAtiog the tithe vt hieh hwt elapsed from the heverea movie rfOtli op to the period of their being made, since .I,lol,:try 5, 1811 ;rod tilto n Itetoro of the Re. 1 , oil made from Jrto'. 5, 1790, to Jan, 5, 1795. 1)411i-red. tits . LtiiiiiNfrinti, seeing att Hutt. and Learned 'Oet.tletuuts itt bis piney, begged to atic hini it he •1l noV obit'clital tU postpOtte his ;notion which' . . to irod fur to•morrow, "rrsikrtiog the Exert!! ititrof 1 , .,.:,,-.,,14 grahtt..tirto the Tteasory by the 5-ith . of Ceor g e pi, tap. ,I/1, to mitigate the CustOtos tati4 Excise 1. , Iwo ) The various Pipers cwinected ‘Wit'll tli C '.llll/iCet tvilicli hr had tiOv Moved foy %vele not yer te.oly; and some of them cutdd oat "prodite:.(l belt re Wednesday. • Mr. LiGithM IVHS the motion should be furrlier delayed, More especially sts his Right Him. Friend had given notice of motion for tlic ellify open day in the prc,ent week'. If that mo. tion tre.tt Shave I, hive Np objetlion to totigq with the wilt) of the Hon. Geotletnitn posire, Pitr. AVR'sTP,Tt)I reminded the lion; Gent ?man, t hnt tlieCummittee on the Agricultural Distress ef the :Country . stood_ fat l'imrsday, Tie, 1)00(11114 wouill be suffered to take pretetleoce of iiir Order of the I) v. littOVoll AM was sensible of the paramount imp t i liner of the sio ject.jost rrielied to. If th e Ilk.n. Cit.ntleittan diii not think it, might bu ts well to put off the till.Mouby; ire would ,► . wave his motion, •whi c li lee had proposed to tlx for Thursday. • -"kkillitut Mr. LiitsHINGTON OfrirOd a few words on the •sObjeett, which were not, distinctly heard in the Gallery.. • '• 13aOuonita , eaMplaitted of the delay in pre senting the Papers whichbad been ordered to be laid - before the - flutist nrchis - motien; But at the same limehe begged it to be understood, that he was iinite ready to proceed. with his motion even upon the ettpers which were already before the House. L'uititicoTtiN observed, thst the necessary dine hail not been uffoldad for the printing 'of the Niters', 'as •the and 'Learned GOileman had not moved for them all on the same day. He re ferred to the House to knots , whether, in Such .eir • cultist ances, it would be decent for the Hon. Ge ntleman to press his motion". After some 'further conversation between these Hon. 11eudners,..Mr. BROUGHAM finally fixed his llotion for isuesday sennight. On the motion of Me, FORBES i . there was or dered to. be laid before the 'lloosei a return of the moues and 'number of office's of the arMy receiv: ing pensions for the loss of limbs or for wounds, specifying the nature of the cases, the mono! . of their PensioUs) nod the date when they co)u nieneed. Also an account of their pensions, and `the 4ate when they commenced. Also an account of the deductions made f rain the half-pay and pen- SionS wouuded officers. in the army. The like aceottets were ordered, on the, motion of the 'same Wm. Geoileinan, for the Navy and 11.larine.!. A Petition was presented from the town of Leiceitey against the Pr OpertyTax, which was read, and ord'ered to lie on the table. COMMITTEE OP WAYS ANP MEANg• The House having resolved itself into u Com mittee of, Ways and Means, vie CHANCELLOR, of the ENcuscwita rose.— It was. not his intention 40 take up any iarge par thin of the time of the committee, as the propo sition _which• he wished ip sebmit to it was very 110,1 and simple. , fie would them efore confine him self to a short explanation of the nature of the measure which he wits Ounst to propose.. The House would recolluet how the VRViOitS , branches of the cnstoms, amid I?,xcise Duties had been aug mented and applied during the war. 'Cher would also recollect that, during the later periods.of the woe, in the years 1807,180, and 1811, the expenses of the. Loans had been charged upon these W:a Taxes. It was,, therefot e, high's; importaot that the „Consolidated !Fund should he ren dered. eve! .to ; heat those cha n ges perm's , newly. This would be best effectel by eon- . tinning 'faxes alprt , primed fOr this purpose by the vote of . Parliament, lie, therefore, now intended to propose, that the tVar Taxes, untlt r time heads..ot Customs, should be carried -to time Consolideted•Vontl, tO tiara) , those , expences incurre d timing the war. Considerable additions had' beau made to the Dutie s on parts, lixports, and TOnnage; but these., with all the , other It' it Taxes, as they now stood, would, by the existing Act, expire in.a very ; few numo ls . It it intention, ttt the proper time, tr.i prou,,,e to ti! House saute modifications in the Dut i e s on Imports,. as he believ e d t h e y were those which might he made permanetit• with `the least inconvenience to the pithlie. With respect, therefore : , to • the Winne- of the War 'faxes, under time head' at CtiStoms; be intend ed they Should b made 'pernrinent, • and car tied .d . to the' •Cithsolidated , Fund. But with , regtuu , to t,te - otner great, branch—the I.4iXciSe War Duties, 'MS' iittentioit wait' to' keep then) separate from the Consolidated Fund ; and al though he did nett foresee any exact period , when they enfold lie gi v en up,'yet In'OpOs'e to deiderethetw absolutely . permanent. By keep iug Ahem . separste: from the 'Consolidated 'Vilna, they eould,.from tine to time, be brdaght before the..-House, asset receive such modifieations as might. bethought convenient. For Atte present, therefiov i hit should ouly ploppse to continee,:the I:4+eiseWar Duties for it period of the years. At the saute thne, he HMV say, he Ban" no catty pros pect of being able to }five ; ttp . thOt‘e duties.- He had Smile measures in contemplation, for the pur pose of tepressi nq s inoggiittg, k.s.f in ch he hoped would have thee ff ect of milking this branch of the'reveauti Considerahlyinoreprodurtive. It was not his inten tion' td propose any continuation of thcadditional ditty on Nit& ; and, in conseptence of the eessa tion of this duty,• some regulations would be ne cessary tor the convenience of the trade, with.a 'skin to the repayment of the' duty of the stock on hand when the Act would expire. There . was another reason why it was advisable t o separate the 'excise: thitiei tom the Cotisolidated:Fund; arising front the loss which would be occasioned to the Public on the amount of the current' (knits, front the way in which time taxes going tti the COrt, solidated Fund,were paid into the'Exchetrier, The whole estimated amount atilt War Excise Duties, deducting the additional Mali lint y,waS 3,800,0001. that of the Ctistoms, 2,700,0601; Although wou;il notinoii , go into any general financial state- . rerun[, •he ought mention . to the Howie; that' al., thong') they had thought proper to reject that sys-: team of tieante which appeared, in his judgment, to be the, best: yet lie had no intentiOn of attempt hoe to substitute any nen , taxes to replace that of willed) he had, been deprived, nor to . provide for the, eXpenses, of army loan. lie should therefore attempt to 'defray the expense of any stone Which might .he hot:rotVell in the &nurse of.the year, it; such is way as to peeyent Any material pressure upoO the money market. With, thii view, iloriog the' present year, it - WO most desirable to take •no• thing froM•the Sinking Pita.. flaring given Such short explanations as he thoUght were necessary„. be Would' conclude by maving the 'ifesolotion tti whip!) he anticipated . no objection. The'lteiolu lion was then rend :-- " TWO, it is the eionion of the Committee, that the Invent Duties of Customs, directed by the Act of the last Session of Parliament to be continned till the Stir day of July ) 1811, be blither continued and 13141.10 permanent." Oti the question being put, Mr. TlkitNEY said, that ail he gathered from the statement of the Bight lion, (holt!email was, that having been driven by a thzition - Of, the House out of his fnvourite post, he two% intended to'supply the deficiency by attempting to impose suw burdens upon the public, and to deft:ly the expe'li44 of it . loan 1110411:lir:ea:lions of t-itne or !the existing dr.ties. The CH A NCIII.L . Ott of the,f4XCLlOUlta said; that he had certainly stated ' that he' slid not mean propose any Ailtat measure of takPtion, but to tie fray the expenee of ,such sems as rt he ne. cessary. tit horrow, so as not to charge it upon tha Sinking Fond, It Could be done therefore by the modification olsome of the Criitilig 414111ei."-;-- He was sisre the Ho* Wmild think , it beit by keep entire the 'Sinking Vont! ; and *hen the ',jun . - tion was as to the ,pre,servadon of the Binking they . were at least b o u nd to dO r b for the •supprirt of the credk durin o4 the pre sent distress of the 'country, as not to touch that •Fiullslesir, hear !) • ' • Mr. 'I lERNEL—As they were not noilr going Antis the details of the Budget, he, did NM feel him sacidled upon to give any opinion, on the general statement of the 'tight: Bon. Gentleman. He could only say ) that he was very, happy to En d that the Right Hon, Gentleman had nut carried into effect • that terrible' revenge with Which he had threatened the 11411se in the shape of new taxes, in case they dared to reject the , l. rOpertyTax.--7lt now appeared that this threat bad been a mere fitutism fdl9ten ; and he would say 'this of it . , that of all . the propositions that lie had, ever heard, it would have been the most foolish--- As• to the question now before the Maui, lie saw no objection to.making the Customs War unties permanent. It was an arrangemeot from which, Ile thought, no Inconvenience could result, and it was one to which the faith of Parliament •was pledged by its votes, as to the loans daring the ivar. As to die other 'branch of tile: revalue, the, EXcke, it was , for the present only Intended to continue.the War Duties for five years, and the annual prothice of these (in round numbers) was estimated at four millions. Ott Object - there Was an old battle between lsiinself Mid the Meta Hon. Gentleman s end he still maintained that, with regard to this part Of the satiji:ct, the Right lion. (jenticroan did not look the situation of the conntry'fairfy in the face. lie had no contideaCe in any .contemplated erraogements for, the pre= vendors of smuggling, as none of those which had already bt;en adopted, stmt whicii; before. - they were actually tried, had .bee.,l declared Qiitlible—nay, the increase of. the Revenue to be thereby made calculated upon iu the, IVays nod, Meails far the year; after all had cods ely failed. ,F,l;:w could :my arrangenients be good against smugglers 'who cal- . eulated•that they coal haire good prolii'hy saving nneelit gamic of seeen ' Ile could not., therefore, agree to allow the , Right • Hon. Gi.litlessisio •to carry on fay five years no c . xpet'i,meot,iii, tya.rfare with smugglers. It would he better at once to to appoint a 'Committee to inquire into the sub.. jtfct, for' the. purpose of stipplyiug theur , elves the House with the necessary ,issforntation. ilc begged the Bight Hon. Gentleman to torn this' snineet In his mind. The CHANC'ELLOR of the EXPHEGUER.-.-lie begged eositively to disclaim the imput atom con, Wined in the first part,Of the speech of the Right, }lon. (ieolleatan, as to a threat of .imposing new ; taxes in 'elmc the Property prix WAS 11,0 t cominsi ed.;-;.-No such threat. had, eVer:,l i een held taut, lsy Whai he had said about Was, that die l a st seasion he haul propOsed-certain additions io t h e asse s se d, tot e s, p a il of ;01ich had been agreed to by Parliament . ; Had as. to the rest hie had 'saitl that they could afford no' adensiitte substitute- lot the Property Tax ;. thertfin.e pr..,4srd.rlie'Pro f perty . TaX snore earnestly upon .the House, be-. Mille there Was Uo tax Yvhich could, in his opi nion,, be substituted for it'. The war Ex - else taxes fornueut the available brar.ch of the revenue which waslelt, and be certainly did think, not ws'ithstand- Inb opinion of the Itight < llML Goo lemasi (1l r. Tierney), that' by_ vigilance mid Activity no.ch might be done for diesrepreSsion of Snoggling, tit eveli liopest; that by sOnie arranesoteois '‘‘'l4l.4, were intended . , in .the way ofincreasing the, power of the revenue °Wert), .th 4 it might, ultuust be, entirely put an end to. Mr. PtiNSONBY to observe ; that 'so . far ache understoMl they were nisiv to proceed upon an opinion, that exact , the . ex sanie pense was to he incurred.by die country, as, had been propirseithefOre the decision of the Hoyle on the Property Tax. . So , far Its' he Ullitert . (iod, the Loan•was ro.he exactly the amount at , which those takes' Wad been estimated' which' were now giieo Ile wished to know itlie was :seclir - ate in thus 'understanding the - mutter; because it it was not lutes - ids:4 to incur the same 'eineuses, in the shape' of a loan, as in t h e shape of tax e s; he shOuld be very happy. B 4; UtiderS;DOil it was not so.; that no diminution of expenditure was to be made; that a ,loan Was to be made to th e onsontit of the taxes discontinned,. the Cherges of which loan were not to be defrayed from • the, Sinking Fund, but , the . modititatiOn• Of . certniii taxes. 'the CRAMCKLIMA, of the EXCIIRIWER.—The R ig t Gentleinatt had certainly understand Lilo rightly. The gpestipit of expenditure Was one which must rest can its oWn grounds. 11Go• vernment proposed any expense which was on- necessary, as soon as it was shcwn how it &mid 'be 'avoided, they would immediately, give it up. It wus the duty of the I-louse to watch this ; but he did not anticipate any greater reduction thaw bad been alreadyThadc. , It svai - etrally.the duty of the House to watCri, and Of the tiotterndient to eiirrect any thing in the *expenditure Whieh Could be avoided, consistently with the safety and interests of the century. lie did ellow that a Loan might have the effect, :of.= enOunraging pondittire in the Government, because it was is Mode 'of raising money, withont any immediate pressure upon the country ; bin he IniPed that' in the present instance it would !mire ho such etfeet upon the measures or Govertiment—that it would' not prevent them front cutting otf any expenSe which could be avoided with safety to 04 nation. —(deer, hear, hear !), Mr. PoNsoNuv said, that as be had rightly un-, derstood the Right iloomitable Gentleman, the c a se waS Stlortly this—that the country must still start! under the mine estimated eapenses as those, proposed at the commencement ofthe Session, and ther,e watt to r he tit, diminution whatever : in the supplies. Mr; Hosmszot.r—it appeared to Itim.that Right lionoura4le Gentleman who spoke last bad evjgouittlad two, things nu less diittinct lbw, a tninmitive of Supply 'qui a rNunisirite • or and Meant. The .duty of the ItO4Se of Cola rontli was, to ivateli' the Supplies. IVllett, tliete *ere :gi•anted, it rras thou fur the Musa to consider of the Ways uqd 111caiii, for ra;sitte: the Supplies.- the Right Hon. Chancellor tb% Exchequer had entert'ained and expressed a hopc that the ekpeniliture-of die coiintfy mi4ltt he di , thistished to the extent of nine millions, and he ! for one, was sorry that this littike been 0 4 1" . A,(,)i9tFd, 1, As tomi Sue')ly • , the .I.louse 07.14 sure wonldilitenilietitively licoulter tfultl4 point out what reductions eokllki I) ,a 11 14 e. When the LitiliyilE 4 i . ilit.l been yotedi it wds, in his opinion,/ iniitotsiirile .Inc .! inert expeiteein any better,Vray than that propoied his .tight Sion. Friend the Chaucellor of rise Lx" chequer. Lie would ask the .13,41111 . i ° n!t n li i e l p in r a e n se ° n P t P s ° tilt it e e t ' if wi t l l e r i e h e 'e s r ta l b )'e lisl e Ze i .V: -- i 'e4 W t . 4ll , reductions were making as fast as Possible-wiic: thee there was any way .for providing Ole - " In ! Eiviired fur the expenditure of the year, hear( than that which had been proposed ? The uncle nary revenue was certaiuly not stArient. A km" , or liPtnething equivalent to a loan, was th e uni t Wise plan. r Mr. PONSONBY observed, that he.niust-lotse so malty years in the liouSe to very little po t po s tl if lie out not know the tlificrence lit: tween a lan"- mittee t o Supply unit a enwittee of Waysand Mean,. What b e h a d said 'was this hat the Antonia which the Finatiac Minister c41C:":" latell Upon receiving front the Property ""il T"xe' 4 ,' be POW intended to supply bitvleif wroth by meattS•of a loan. Now, as far as he ontier stood the Argument of the lti;4ht Hutt. Geolletmut who spoke last, it went to this----that since tbs w hols• tt4ie niillsoh , cOuld nut be PAcii , 0 1 1 were to save none. Tliete was no eptotion tll3, the ordin ar y rev e nue would not cover the ex peas,es ni the Tliciu mnint of the Loan was t" question. Mr. liustussow said that the House 1%0 03 ' now discussing the Loatt. 7 ---it wits not itt a c°l 4. Mittee of Supply. Mr. liAargo.thotiglit the most important tans' ileratina fOr the House present, was the 59E 1 (. made by • the Chaotel'or o f o,e gs-- chetpter, that heanst: the House had rejected :01 odious and 'oppressive "tax, he . uroold take that sniutthing slfould be made. .to, "" (1 therefore lie adopted measure to press Wm iOll 4l l trip lil n " l‘ t i l i eo : l ;j l :o ll)ic lie l e a r s g t d l it u . sis i : l e l d le t b ß n i t gt ; t h . o Hint ie ,. vi t ': llll:: ; talked of a 1:040, Illistiii)k.thr Committee of Vi•!l rs andNte4ns for a Committee of Supply. Now" ";?. seas twist to be complabiell of• in t he s ystem iNittisters, was, that th e . (.1 41 , 4 , wits wa d e it irs t.to . vole e i3it.iric),iiseispi,vwoi:thstunictilittorsokeixti;eantdtithielreta,ello9 ► ' o r f 't \ s ‘' 'l n t v 't s 4e a ' t l t i t l i tt A tt l e e r iti C lS Pr . ".i l ls lt r i 4 s ri :% l • l a ) contrar y ' tlieCia t %tlv O ilitti t t:::ll4l : the, mile i of,pro;jc'oc,e . ; contrary to the practice() every private, who., if lie. had spy (Tons •in the management of his affairs, alorrq g lriotttel tu,hiS tnetinS: before he resolved ,to. 444 rmy expensi... How.eMildoite,flonestiO.ol4,"'illtsP . ,Y . degree - of sense at •estimates , Ontil it knew 1)" 4 taltch thil,,emotfriT'CAsUld ? It W,is tio.e s cea that tite,se rsttraiwteit , could nett lie, Volta ivitito:l ll 11 , qi•ng recottr,se,to an inrolerahle,tax cu the U r ic 113114, or a measure to, injure the public , or q uit oil the othey. Howe.ver, there was this result front ba;l bge,lt stittill by the Chancellor, of the Exchrquer, that there was Ito s J lVatioti' for the country but pit l o oking at th e c3t i ma to . witil eqn , iption.that..retrinelktnents,wete aljetAtitglyn o cosary. Lord CASTLE ft CAC it.—. The vi e w of thle (reStion 1 :16 1 -' 11 . •Lty. the [lan. Cieutlemho ‘ s v v ? o 4 o s r! po i.st a ll e rf t , it it?;i., for l'rrrliamriit loot, tidtc, fur the. mune of ascertaiitiog what was necessary ontior the,tl pres e nt ci rc umstances y eil i c 'a u x m o s r ti . l t i l i t e e es' N.l7l l ;t 'the x c ', ou s i :l l , r e y t . har il t a- l!:'; w Ce continued or. removed, there svactittsfr ° duty on the. House to narrow. the expenditori^Os to!telt.as, was consistent, with safety. The ePt" . ' s tio u s now to. be Made k-y.tbc-country,Ouglit. tR be proportioned, as well according to its _mean* , as . to, its' interests. at home and • altroad• • Tl i t i e s s e i tt")ti;I:Ot:19ollyV of t o , :ti.e i s n t i 11;: c 12 - o r i o s t :t t P t g9oltifrtY.elixttpt sthe - with • safety to the nation. fie therefore (I" invented such Q gloomy view as that taket" b r lie, lion. Gentlentau who spoke lot, • ' ; "Y, 11.4 that_the country was reaticed to such. egtreintty, that certain expetiSes could not be afforded. Ft' r the question must always come back' to tla r "" what is necessary— . - t eliat is . re mired for our sat_ ty—wlitit is intlispeu-ible for the preservation cir our national exstence and independence ?-.7-1.11.4: tlonse had already,v9ted iipplies for the,APO:* and also for the ..eneral expenses of the NaYr .- cultu ss Civil branch 0f tl►a,t~ ss t ieii i tt i vr a ti l ait) : iif : o : : : ). : .l,l,,NL: o oft t io . . l l ),:x l i : igi e l4e N- I : A : ba ‘ re , : ulcit t y i l t nite l ft e r,clo tt . i in t ia:t Knee on the Conciipe occupied---from the necessity of keeping up t he . ator' he my at home net such a scale as was revired for th i f c r i h n = n r q t . r e p t: ( 0 1 i t e :t r t s y s c , P t o e i t relic( of tro , ops abroad: I.lt was impossible to re4.'": tote an immediate redaction.. to a greatcr extelt' than had bk•en mink. Beyond this they could onl/' make arrangements -for more extensive retloctions.4 next year. These arrangements had . been.niachw -although Government bad thus itt view _ninny r", auctions (lie did not -mean reductions to be Insai' ill consequence :of any recent decision' of House, but such as had beets long in Corit'empor Cori), Which ,w,initl ,be made in the course . • year, but few them could he.tnatle immediate. ly. And here it was that those on the apposite. side of the House acted .unfairly, by arguiPg : " l: , if.thoseexpenseiwere to bilutrinatient, were' only temporary. It was certainly ti . " thaf_with. the peace_ fell the great elipenses of to!: war. By reducing second battationsoorio,", g . military departments--*the m il itia Ada estitbii'l .. l ; mem* at homeconnectedwith the arrtly . - 4 -all expenses which could. immediately be avoided, b iltl been ant off. The duty which Nlinisters bad t .„ one ) 4 /0 0 ' that It was there:ore altogether ofok.to I n Pi e lcir e c e fa : t s re a rna r - i a° l; tl;e t i great l';ti 1 0 : rt:ts p arts i :1! d or. fi c: ; •