The Sun. — London, England, 1819-10-21 00:00:00

RADICAL REFORM. THIRD DIALOGUE. Ilonoe—There he is.—l was persuaded to leave off the club at the 'led Lion by his discourse, but thou hast half brought me back again, Dick ; thou hast, I promise thee. DicK—Hang him, he's not worth our minding. I dAre say, Frank's in the pay of the Ministers ; or he Would not he so sharp upon our party, HODGE.-. 4 can't say how that be ;—hut his ar guments seemed pretty fairish, I thought ; and therefore I never troubled myself about his reasons. for using them. thcK-'L--There you're clean wrong, Master 'lodge. It is a regular rule in our club, that whenever a man argues against Radical Reform, he is in the pay of the Ministers ; and whoever is in the pay of the Ministers is not to be lis tened to. Horace—Aye, that be what the Chairman of • our — Meeting calls Logic. DICK-1 know nothing about Logic—not All 1 know is, that such be the directions sent down to our club from the head folk in London ; and so I am hound to think accordingly. • Hopon—And that be what you call Liberty ? For my part, Frank's way seems to have more li berty its it i for be teaches me to think for my s,elf. DlCK—Don't mind him. I warrant yon, lie was preaching up quietness and religion, and --- I-lopoe—And industry. Troth was he, Dick. For, says be, be times never so bad, even hstil wages are better with industry, than idleness with DO wages at all. Dicx—Hang work. I never could abide it since I became a Radical. HoDGE—Hang work !—I dont understand thest matters thoroughly, D:cli ;—brit common sense tells me, that when a poor man has once brought himself to cry—" hang work !"—the law will soon cry—hang the idler ! DICK—You talk like an. old woman or a par son, Hodge. Wheat we have once got Radical Reform, law and religion will be off together and then, we may snap our fingers at Hangman or Devil 'Juno e--7(calls out) Frank ! Frank ! Come hither, lad ; ~rid talk with poor Dick. FZZANIK—(at a distance) --;Pce , cnily, Hodge. prese6tly. lint just finish this little job, and be r , ith you. DlCK—Thcre's a fellow !—He wont leave his spade for-am few minutes, to - chat with a couple of old companions. HODGE—ft he knew your wicked speeches, hed come fast enough.—(Calls again)—Frank, I say, here's Dick talking so idly. FRANK—(as bcfore)-1 dour doubt him ;--but 1 can't afford to be idle too. be's talking worse than idly —I tell thee, he i, talking like Tutu Paine and Carlilc; (pine blasphemously. . FRANK—(rumding, up) S°av, stay, Dick ! don't you talk in that way, and be with you. Hoooe—Aye, I knew :hat would fetch him. Frank's the lad to talk with you, if you begin pint. Radical discourses, I promise von. DICK—May be so ; but he won't find it so easy to talk me over as souse folks. FitaNK—{Coning up) IVell, Dick, here I have left my work to converse with yon, I had rather leave it undone than you should talk wickedly. Diet;—l want no sermons out of the pulpit, not I. llonGE—Nor in it, I fancy ; thou !Mt not been at Church these ten SinniAy*. DicK-1 had no time for CI ui ch. What be tweet) &Wing in the tieldi, and reading Paine's works in the tap-tuotn, I had scarcely an hour to eat my dinner. FLANK—Thou shewest little gratitude for that sgine Owner to (Intl or man, in learning- the use of HrinS to overtuvn t 1.,, State, or the use of blasnhetny to (kstrov :he Clwrcit. DICK—We Radical t'ro't care a fig for one or the other. i'erfcct equality, say I ; and, by the powers of 11 , 4iliealkin I swear, we will have it. Hot GE—Lord ideas tire, how he do swe a r! Talk to htto, Ir't auk, as yon talked to cue yes er dJV about this sante equali;y . FitANK—I must first know what sort of equality, he means ; because there one sort wi,ich I mai,!lr suspect he be no iricnd to. Diex.—To r4i.salitv, al; soils and every sort - niANK—Pin glad to lsear thee say so, Dick ; ,for Blatt a friend to egicality of Law; mid may'st spate titysclf the tt•wit)le of lookiog tittrr What tiactu taa , t already. DICK-1100 Criti thltt be, Mien (Ile Liw Linde' ti Alf taking Landlords' es , :itcs trnnt ? 1-IODGI , :---11::!CAUSC it also hinders Landlord from taking away your cottage, or refusing von vonr wages. I learned that much from Frank's con• versation yt.sterday. DicK—But / want that sort of equality which will wake 144udiord divide e!itate with me. Wi It you iiloile ; tor that riot Lie equality. lie must divilic it with every body. Dlcic—Arid every body elitist divide with Thar be rite Rad cats EEoDGE—Ecuci, Ff (Mk • that setlos fair ettoogh too. FR A N LC!' its see.—All over the country, that would give every body about four act es a piece. McK—And then we'd divide the money ; which ntayhair wo•dd give us four guineas a piece into the bat FRANK—Like enattgli.—But the woods, and the tine looses of our great folks i—What's to be dooe tvi , I hew ? 1100 :---:-e:1 them, I suppose ant: share the prodilce. _ _ FIZANK—YOU must find purchasers first ; and wilt, al; the motley is divided, I'd like to know ttiho'll be able to buy the;u. DICK—Oh they shou!d be sold before the di cis +n 11!Alle of tie money. niANyi—That k‘01:1(1 Irt4ye WI in the same fur, if these saute tvuods and houses are not tiivided afterwards, then their purchasers will wore Lbsu au goal stare. Dtcx—Down with them then; and give every mane pat t to build his own cottage with. FIODG6.--I was 11,41. brought up to building work -- DIQK-..-T3llt I was.—l'll.build it for thee. FaANK—That's kind indeed; to give thy labour to an old friend. • " . DICK—Who said a word about giving. I'll build his cottage or any other man's, and be paid for building it. fIoDGE-1 should not hare .enough money to pay thee. Thou ‘vould'st not be satisfied with four guineas for building an house, wouldst thou ? Dick—How should I ? It would not p©y for the wear and tear of my took. FRANK---,-And if it did, thou wouldst not bore any right to• it. Dic:;—The deuce ! Not have any right to be paid fit,. toy own labour ?. FRANK—NA truly, for then thou crouldst bare more money than thy share ; and we must all go 10 a fresh division. DICK—Oh, hut I don't intend any more divi sions than the first. After that, every body should krep what they could earn. FRANK—That was the way all the estates sprung up which thou art wanting to he divided. if di vision be right one time, it Most be right always. Ilopqc—Thou seewest 59,ther puzzled, ack. I know that I be, and deucedly too. ThcK.—Plagiie on it, Frank ; 1 see no differ ence between not being •paid for my. labour, and giving tip. the • pAyment after .. l have gut it. I won't work at all. FRANK---NorF. - If you won't build fur me, I wou't plough for you. • DICK—Weil then, we'll make a fair-- exchange, your labour for mine, awl so help one aooi her. HoDGE—But I want thee to built! my'rottage, Dick ; and equality won't let you work wily where you like. FRANK--I don't see how it would let him work a stroke more for any one man than for another, DF,.:x.----Why, by that role, equality would be d,r..o4ight slave!) , : and so, as I said before, I uon't work at all. 1-lonGE—Nor I neither. As you won't build for Frank,or toe, I won't make shoes for you, any !time titan Frank will plough. DICK—Aye, but I must have bread, and shoes too. I'll mAke you work. IlfradE—What !—put force upon your, equals IlesUies,.l shall have no money to buy leather. FaANtr..—And if you had, our neighbour's tan y,,rd yonder will have been rlivided among his fellow-citizens and 1 am afraid your share of it won't be ehough for covering your own feet. DrcK—Tots Stitch the Tailor will give me his share, in return for my building his work-shop. want it all to put shoes on his wife and children. DICK—OIi no. They wilt each . have a share of their own. FRAN K—Tlien there must be a fresh division of the acres and guineas upon every birth and death through the Country. A rare time we shall have of it ; settling and unsettling every, five minutes HoDoc—Why, Dick, I should not like giving up a corner of my , four acres, and a shilling of my tour guineas every time thy %vile lies in. DiCK—But you moat though, MaSter Hodge. That be the rule of Radical EgliditV.' FRANK—To be snre it is. Only you will give up a slice of yours, Dick, in like manner upon the like occasion. DICK—At that rate I could never be sure of my otct► imipvrty for a moment. . . FRANK -- You would have none to he sure of.— Evvry thing would bdong to the State; and no individual would have any thing Of his own. Mr:E.—Btu I have ncitL r tour acres nor four guineas now; and I could not be worse off then. DonGE—Thou bast a place to live in, though —And clothes—and victuals. How comes (bat ? Dieu---Why, Hodge, thou knowest as well as I do, that I rent the one and eat the other. Atim—lrony landlord has a house for hitn• self, or he could not spate .you one ; and money to spare also, or be could not pay you enough to buy c:otlies and victuak, ilonGtt—And the shopkeepers must have more meat and linen than they want tor their own use, or ihey could not sell them to you for your money. FRANZ—Ttiou art half converted, Dick, reckon. Let Me - see thee here to-moi tow, and I will satisfy thee that any other equality than that of the Law, would he nothing else than equal mi sery, equal want, and equal slavery. I will sbew thee, too, that every man gets more by the ine quality of possessions, than the most equal division of erety acre and every guinea in the country could give him. RADICAL BAticEn.—A few days since the fol. Inning dialogue actually took place between Knight of the Razor and a Sea Officer, in Deve teux •court, near the Temple :—The Barber, whilst shaving lite hater, entered •as usual into poli tics, and among other things said, lie could easily pay ill the National Debt. How could you, said the Officer ? simply, rejoined the Barber. 1 would take 25,0001. from every man who had , - )0,0001.; 10,0001. from him who bad 20,0001. and so tot ; throwing all this into a fund for the payment of the debt. This woold bring hese overgrown people more upon a level with US, and then we could manage •o get on a little better than we do. 'The operation finished, the (retoleman asked .drat he had to pay ? Sixpence, said the Barbee.—Then, replied the other, there is three-pence for you, my boy.--The shaver said, he didn't understand this. Why, ye lubber, rejoined the Officer, don't you understand your own principles ? 11 you take from me halt what honestly belongs to we, 1 can only afford to pay you half what 1 used to do, so you will be just as far front your level as ever ; and if I must retrench, the sooner I haul in the better ; therefore, there is three-pence for you. Something rather beyond an altercation now ensued, in which the Radical went to leeward, and was dismissed by no means pleased with this practical illustration of his own doctrines. Cipt3in HALL, who recently published his Tra vels th r o u gh the Canddas and the United States, was the Author 01 that admirable Winchesier Prize rbenr, enti!lcd, " The Fall of Babylon." THEATRICAL RE GisTE Performed Last Niest. THEATRE ROYAL, ])BURY-LANE.—The Fisherman's Hut : Yrincipal Characters by ,Mr. Mundell and Mrs. W. West. After which, The Prisoner at Large. THEATRE ROYAL, COVENT-GA RDEN.—LoYe for Love: Sir Sam son Legend, Mr. T e rry ; A nge li ca , M rs . Davison. After which, which,The Gnome-King. PRICE OF STOCKS Tills DAY AT TWELVE. u'CLOCK. _ ........ -- -.......... Bank Stock 2191 I India Bonds .... 10s. 123. pr. 3 per Cent. Red. 673 i 68 674 Exch. Bills, 2d .. 2s. dis. par 3 pei Cent. Cons.....6S:tha Is. dis. 31 per Cent '6/4 Ditto Commercial ... 16s. dis. 4rr Cents. ... 851: (Minium (payment) .. il dis. ti per Cent. Navy Ann. IC3i!* 'Coils. for Account 68i 69 68.1 Bank Long Ann. 11 15-16tlis NIAI AuutvEu-1 Dublin, 2 Waterford, t France. Elaniburgh. fijCIT WATF,R AT LONIii)N BRIDGE TO.NIOItIIOIV. lersiim.7. 48 minutes after 4. I Evening, 10 minutes after 5. THE SUN. SOLENI tjUls fIIOER FALSU3I AUDEAT ? LONDON, THURSDAY, OCTOBER 21, 1819. We received last night and this morning the Paris Papers of Sunday and Monday last. %Ire give in the Fourth Page, some extracts from the former, amongst which is a contradiction of the announcement of the arrival at Paris, of the Prin cess of WALHS, but which is re-asserted in some of the Papers of Monday. The following are ex tracts from the Journals of Monday : " PARIS, OCT. 18.—The King yesterday re ceived the Ministers, superior Officers, principal Magistrates, &c. &c. It is understood that the Princess of Nirales arrived at Paris yesterday. —(Gazette de France.) " The Countess of Oldi (Princess of Wales) had not arrived at Paris at four o'clock yesterday afternoon.—(Journal de Paris.) " Letters from Madrid state, that a multitude of the inhabitants of Andalusia contirmed to pass the Sierra Morena, for the purpose of retiring into New Castile and Estramadura, in order to with draw from the epidemy, which was spreading more and more in Andalusia. " A recent letter from Hamburgh confirms the news already circulated, that several of the wealthiest and most considerable Jewish families were preparing to quit that City, in order to settle some of their in France and others in Hol land. " VIENNA, OCT. 3.—lt appears that our Court and that of Berlin, are agreed respecting the Re- solutions of Carlsbad adopted by the Diet. " BERLIN, OCT. 6.—Since the late Reso lutions of the Diet became known, together with the establishment of a Central Tribunal at Mayence, and the severe restriction on. the liberty of the Press, some persons of distinction here have made strong remonstrances to the Prince de Hardenburg, - and the Minister de Hum boldt, who, in reply, gave an assurance that the Resolutions in question should be' executed with moderation and just ice. " COPENHAGEN, OCT. 4.—On the 30th ult. a shock of an earthquake was felt in the neighbour hood of Drontheitn. " MAYENCE, OCT. 12.—M. de • Schwartz, Counciilor to the Supreme Tribunal of Justice at Vienna, appointed by Austria to be a Member of the Central Commission to be established in this City arrived here yesterday. No other Mem ber of the Commission has yet made his appear ance, nor is any place yet assigned where the Commission is to hold its Sittings." Extract of a Letter front Angostura, 24th July. " 1, like many others, was seized with the ro mantic dream of retrieving my fortune and renown by campaigning in the dreary wastes of Vene zuela. On my arrivjl at Angostura I had no dif ficulty in procuring a Lieutenant's commission in the English Rile Corps. The very morning after I was marched off to join the main body up the country. I assure you seriously we never halted a day at a time for nine weeks ; during which period I never tasted, nor even saw, any thing except beet in had condition, and worse cookery. In an extent of country 300 miles in length, and about 400 in breadth, I never saw a single house, except two deserted hamlets or villages. I was in one action up the country, the first of the kind I was ever in. Our corps, and the Bonaventura regiment, about 800 strong, were ordered to at tack a party of the enemy, consisting of 700 in fantry and 200 cavalry. They were posted in a strong position, amidst underwood and thick plantations ; being concealed, they poured a se vere file on us fron► all sides. The Indians at tached to our division all took to their heels ; in the end, however, we drove the enemy away, butt not without great loss, as out of 800 we had only 360 left. There is no discipline among the troops, all is anarchy and confusion ; Cue Creoles are cowards. Fur three months I have not had a softer bed than in a car or the bare ground to rest ul►on. All the Er►glisb Officers applied 101 their passports, wliiclt were refused; 1 got min e merely by stratagem. My opinion is that the? never will take Curacoa ; and if they do, they will find nothing worth having," That portion of the Public who have colvi" scended to read The Times of this day, must have been - disgusted at the impudent and senseless ribaldry which it has directed against a respects• ble Evening Paper, because that Paper had treat.. ed the late County Meeting at York as chiefly what may be silted a Radical Meting. And it may be fairly asked, judging from the proceedings at that Meeting, what was it else ? The Noble men and Gentlemen, who probably thought, from their rank and opulence, that they should he held in awe by the inferior orders, and suffered to take the lead in any me::sures which they might think proper to propose, could with difficulty obtain a hearing, and, with all their efforts in the cause of candour, justice and decency, could not prom'''. attention to Mr. WORTLEY, who was solely in debted in this respect to Mr. WILLAN, a well" known Radical Leader. Is not this fact then a proof, considering the little weight which the higher had upon the lower order of the People present, that it was chiefly a Radical Meeting' But Loud MILTON, once a favourite character is the County, was assailed with many marks of di? approbation, and was too much disgusted by the reception which be experienced to declare his ear timents as fully as he probably intended, if 1 1 t bad not been visited by a Radical Storm. Mr' LAwsor M. P. it appears withdrew from ( 11 . Meeting before the Chair was taken, because ha saw the general complexion of the multitudes and was persuaded, as the event proved, that clamour and turbulence would overpower goal sense and argument, and he stated his reason fat withdrawing, in a letter—becaUse, as he said, " means had been taken to make that Meeting what it professed to be—a Meeting of Freeholder's inasmuch as persons of every description, number. of even women and children, were indiscriminattii admitted into the Castle Yard." We agree with Mr. LAWSON that this was a reasonable plea for th' absenting himself from a Meeting that was likelyta prove disorderly and tumultuous, and not composed' as it professed to be, of real Freeholders ; but we da • not see what means could have been adopted t° render it more select. If an attempt bad been made to preclude the Radicals from mixing in tbg crowd, the utmost violence might have been the ►C' suit. They would not only have assailed the Castle, but the persons of the higher orders who might bg supposed to have committed an unpardonable 01' fence in possessingrankand opulence. But Mr-Lav/' sots was at least willing to see with his own er g what the Meeting was likely to prove; and then veri properly declined giving his proportion of coon' tenance to a Radical assemblage. But the manna' in which The Times treats this Gentleman is Og coarse, illiberal, and despicable, that no Paper frog The Tinzes could commit such an outrage ups' common decency. It has the impudence to in' sinuate, that Mr. Lawson bad " improprietiee• in his " wild noddle," which might render it right for him " to respect the purity of feminine 0 4 youthful ears." To say nothing of the indecen t language of " wild noddle," applied to a respeg # table Member of Parliament, the insinuatin ° that licentious thoughts • might be passing i ° his mind, deserves a more severe punishmen t than any Newspaper can inflict on that apostat s Poper. The Times repeats the maxim, " Once $ Jacobin always a Jacobin ;" but it is a living con' tradiction to that maxim, for it has been alter' irately Jacobin and Loyalist, many a time and oft as its interest directed, though, indeed, it may b s admitted that it was always a Jacobin in heart' which renders its hypocrisy and tergiversatio ig , the more despicable. But th e tr u e se cret ng The Times is this,—to attack others, in order, in g. the present, to a‘o:(1 giving its own o pinion . "' knowing with what contempt and indignation it ban been discarded from many respectable quarters , i g order to substitute The Sun, and The New Tutu which carried away all its loyalty, spirit, politic s ' sagacity and rectitude. LoNGFORD ELECTION.—ThiS Election t„°'' nAted on the 19th inst. Mr. WHITE haViNg dined any further contest. The numbers wer e Fur Sir G. It. Fetherston, Bart. LuLe White, Esq.... 371 Majority for the former 447. I3arbadnes Pipers to the 12th nit. have reac h i e `: town, Th e ir con t en t s p r i nc i pa ll y re l ate 10 t t „' l l i diderenees, of a serious natur e , it i s s aid, had arisen between Lord COMBERNISUB, the 11° 1 : vernor, and several of the principal inhabiti" l l :,c These disputes originated in t h e exerc i s e of ` 4. " 00 was considered an ille ga l exerc i se o f au thoritY fli , the part of Lord COMBEaMERE, in erasi" 4 ,oB names of two persons from the C omm ission 01 , 1 is Peace. Improper cond uc t, b ut o f w h a t not mentioned, w a s a ll ege d aga i nst t h e m by 0 1, Excellency ; but it was contended by his O P I P / ,, newts, that he had not the poi,' to distni s : l ' o . gktrates without the consent o f t h e Yrivl "° ell previously obtained.