The Sun. — London, England, 1841-03-03 00:00:00

N'ENTNT4 ED ITION. w'raiiici_believed the property was legally liable to be rated, he en•lnd to carry thy law effect, without considering the th eY " expedien c y oi the la.w. toga ouOrt to assess it, ati. re Cold not levy it, they pply to Parliament to 7ve thm from their difficnbi: s, and he thought they i; 11 . 1 ' 1 "t to e o ,D now. It wss but right that thee should be orcned by a civilian, whether or not they had the power . of able that an application should be mace to Lord Normanby on subject. cP.3!r• H AWKER wished t o k now if th e op:nion were that they td not levy, if the Cou r t wou ld not enforce the rate. He think that the rating of churches was such a novelty, to Ne the Regent -street Act they were made expressly liable. considered it use l ess to take the opinion, and should opPos" t he' throwing away any of the public mone Mr. LvstrE said that that Act showed y. that churches were ne t liable. H e had always understood that a decree was the al ai proceedi ng o f the Court, and that they were bound to act tlion A COMMISSION v R thought it most remarkable that the very "geit!ennan who had moved that the decree be signed to-day 1 , 1 „,°, , v moved that art opinion should be taken on the subject. :.,ey were now going in the teeth of the opinion of Sir W. he rolleft. The proper and straight-forward way of procee . ring, n all b.elieved, was this, they had acted in such a manner, to r ticks and go on. A s t o op i n i ons, t h ey m i g ht ge t an y °pi le,' they liked, according as they stated the case. ;bee The CHAIRMAN complained of the oppo,ition which had In given to the decree of the Court by its own members. his own i•arish the church was assessed to the paving rate. Law ' resp ec t to the Houses of Parliament and the Courts of ..._ t avv, it w ou ld be most unjust if they were exempted from Tvers rate. He thought the only safe way was to take the • t rio , ' on the pi nt o f E ccles i as ti cal Law. He thoug h t, at roadsea.rne time, an app li cat i on to L ord N orman b y s h ou ld b e ci iIi ATE CKPTT said whatever mi g ht he the o pi n ion of the v an, it could no - t affect the rating of Dissenters' chapels, ki d th ere f ore he would propose an amendment to the effect of the noticec, which h e h ad before given, arid which would relieve the Court from the difficulty. He should be against taking the pinion of the civilian for common law, unless confirmed. The elniiMon law was imperative, except in as far as ecclesiastical : (‘V !,_nres went. Burn's Ecclesiastical Law would tell them as on the subject as any opinion. Anev wanted to kr.ow if they signed a warrant of dis tress and sent their men in 'o a church and seized the corn ruion Plate, w h at the Ecclesiastical Court could do to prevent ab e ln ? He did not believe they had any power to prevent it, for one would sign the warrant. r WILLocc ri BY had not originally been favourable to the •d l ee i i l C of ( lunch property but the majority of the Court being nied on the question, he considered it his duty to do his 1 7 1 .t0 carry out the determination of the Court. They were IL fault in signi ng the decree before taking that opinion. ti .! Protested against the Court being made the arena for the ,rp it ' t ea ssion of either of political or sectarian subjects. They had .. the e d churches and chapels at their value with Dissenters, and 'valn Y a b i r e . i th t en oath that. property that was alienable was more a q an property that was inalienable. It was the b e n duty of every. Commissioner . to do his best to carry • • m decrees of the Court, whatever might be his own opinio cl t_. I r. LULU rose to object to an assertion of Mr. W I hby. • 4r ', W lLLouctrav rose to order. He had replied. Mr. nad already spoken, and could Lot again be heard. he ard ! CHAartarAN decided that Mr. Leslie should not be • - • •• 15 n v al , divi s i on, t h e motion was carr i e d b y 9 to 5 . 'mu notices of motion were given; among others, one 4VBeckett. , 44 1 1 e f report of the deputation to Lord Normanby was then ' t . 4 .'°n l which it appeared that his Lordship did not consider ,ide,Ltable to divide the Bill, and that the Bill already pro 14u r the compelling parties to drain. His ha al h so e .C — Ze_d . h . s willingness to enter into communication wit t is loners V ai .• s • ' °ll s Communications were then read, and the receipt for TZOney in M e dl ey an d P r i c h ar d was l a id on th e t a bl e . e Court then adjourned to Friday next. COURT CIRCULAR. t u l le! Majesty had an e vening party on Monday, at t h . c i "gharn Palace. Among the company were the and Countess of Listowel, Earl and Countess of t rol, L a d y I da Hay, Countess of S urrey, L a d y M ary 61 1 1", Lady A nn A nson . Esil of March, Lady w C o . emyss, Viscountess Palmerston, Lady Frances 1.,;,, Per, Lord and Lady Seymour, Lord Worsley, ti , Lord Paget, Lord and Lady Mahon, Hard Leveson, Lord and Lady Robert Grosvenor, '4". Cha r l es H owar d , M r . G eorge Ed war d an d th e 7 .1 . Mrs. A nson, and Mi ss G urney. St er Majesty' s; Private Band attended in one of the sevo D ) 4":)01:113 during the evening. Refreshments were veizto the company in the Picture Gallery. °tint Melbourne had an audience yesterday of ,:quee n • sie r de ns Maj es t y and Prince Albert walked in the gar , n. ° ' Buckingham Palace yesterday morning. th e Royal Hi g h ness P r i nc e Albert, attended by lio o ,7 ° a• C. A. Murray and Sir Edward Bowater, y e ir e ur s ed the Surrey Zoological Gar4ens with a visit ratt y. att° -pt •iantat of the Royal Regiment of Horse Guards k ende d d • a ,,, during dinner , at Buckingham Palace, on Cull evening. • L o rd Petre and Mr. Hutt had an interview with 1 , 1" 40 Russell, at the Colouial-office, yesterday. al tae Prussian Minister transacted business yesterday ~,re F oreign -office. His Excellency also transacted iess at the Office of the Board of Trade. at Ocattrit Palmerston had a dinner party last evening Is residence, in Carlton Gardens. FAS HIONABLE INTELLIGENCE. sr Colo ne l and ARRIVALS. ~.,rifit i, d , , Mrs. Hunter Blair, in Albemarle-street ; E. rra p aris T i , and family, at Marshall Thompson's Hotel, ;. S.. Manley, Esq., and Mrs. Manley, at . ditto, s lZ k rti a L a i d el leld Sir Oswald and Lady Mosley and family, in _ Plaee, from their s:•at in Staffordshire. , 5 1,44 DEPARTURES. tiro nit y and Miss Scott, from Marshall Thompson's Hotel, for • q, Kent; Mrs. and the Misses Hanson, from ditto,. for for vings, Kent; Mrs. Shuckbourg and family, from ditto, Yer,"arorickshire ; Mrs. Stock, from ditto, for Bath ; the for ""'• the Dean of Exeter, and Miss Lowe, from ditto, 1 110 4 — tli z eter ; S.r Thomas Hastings, from ditto, for Ports ; ' i trtit..l ; the Earl of Stradbroke, from the Brunswick Hotel, - tap Er'"-street, for Croxteth Park ; Lord Aylmer, from ditto, VOi r the M arqu i s o f G ran b y , M.P., f rom ditt o , f o r Bel , ditt oo . ts tle ; M. Le Comte Greffule and M. Mouisse, from toxi n ',.? Paris ; G. S. Harcourt, Esq., M.P., and Mrs. ' " Har- VroTa ditfo, or Anke frwyke House ; the Rev. G. D. o rn ditto, for Hampshire. bts, -( c / — ,, -- ct TE ATTEMPT AT SUI b u IPLEs. E By AN OFFICER O E THE 60th ' 11 7 / 1 „,. ' . .l'erithl„"° B •l TUE SDAY EVENING, Six O'CLOCK.—CODSI- 410,,. ex citement was created throughout the town this •jtil 511 in eonsequenee of a report that an officer of the 60th Qtr attempted self-destruction, at his room in the in 'havey,harracks, in Sheet-street. The following particulars Th u een obtai ne d : 414 e gentleman who made the, fortunately, ineffectual at- p t „ tath e 'Pon hi s lif e i s First Lieutenant H . W . Elli s, w h o . the t r . illore than thi rty years o f age , an d w ho has been in 4 erv a e h litnent a b out twelve years. It appears t h at h is man uPon calting him this morning, as usual, about nine or hi s w as told t o . .come in." He noticed that the voice `gtoedo la ster was m uc h wea k er th an usua l, and that he ap . 4 1?k rt to sp ea k with some diff i culty. Upon entering the hltq hnleent, he discovered his master lying in bed, who told 1 4, 41 g dYing but not to be alarmed. On the servant . Zgra - t unn he ' found the unfortunate gentleman with his oed a , - sAn. from ear to ear, bleeding most profusely, and the diktertl clothes literally saturated with blood. He imme- Ow, Y fi fa,ve an alarm, and then proceeded to seek for the surl ' I nost C i . n t ne reoiment. Assistant •Surgeon Ferrsson was a 0 - ape et i a niediately in attendance; Surgeon H. IrasFr was a l ls N it re Y.° , l the spot, as well as Mr. Fowler, a medical genttee tettieZting in Sheet -street, who was sent for to assist h th r n ,, T La nli g n e irg Lieutenant El'is, it was discovered that , "Itt - " a ' was cut from the left ear towards the . right, and Orq k Innther similar wound had been inflicted, proceeding the Zar the right ear downwards. The razor with which 4 4.:tak u h nds had been inflicted was found lying on the dress , close to the bed, covered with blood- • •• : f a : ' „discovered, upon examination, that the jugular vein Lety, e- ,;,"Y divid, but most providentially the carotid ar q- i-Aou4h the i r azor had penetrated to within the eighth t °,be ' nt h. of it, had escaped! The windpipe was likewise found Cr 0a. 4 ,1 4 -C_lle,e3t;e r ne state of exhaustion the unfortunate gen e h vi 4 da labouring under, from the immense loss of blood •N',0,,,,,,s \sustained, at the hour this account left W . indsor that six !,!olj, :9, but very ta . tho s indeed are entertained that ho tf. ll ',vilie many ho l u n rs Pe Olit.jr,liarit Ellis is highl respected and esteemed through lnale t e eginient. He has Y been suffering from ill health for ",.Itriftene Past, and had only returned to Windsor from a leave of absence about a fortnight ago. Since then • tre' g l e n observed to be in an exceedingly nervous state. fttahteapeared to be greatly annoyed and excited at not Perform his regime n tal duties in consequence of his ',•llDnal'ruhtsftinn• d. This gre a tly di s t resse d him, and preyed much ie Min his is a young man of goad property ; and, upon the decease 4 he will com e i n t o p os ses s ion of upwards of -Year. o Iler. -V ER, MARC 2.—Lord Brougham arrived ':ivi kteT Sun day, stayed fur the night at Payn's Royal York 'lain D I and sailed vesterJay by the Britannia steamfr, Car ; Ati .'"ushell, for 'Boulogne. We did not learn his Lord. „Rot: destination, but it is presumed by some that be ha s _ :Pr t ," a Si X weeks' visit to his residence in the south of Lady B osse; H e He was looking . uncommonly well. Aki n .4ennox also arrived here on Sunday, and, after to Lg refreshments at Prentice's Paris Hotel, proceeded oodou the same evenin g. 4 tlon, " MORPETH ' S The petition v u v l ed at the public meeting in Clayton-square, in fa 1.44„L0rd Morpeth's Registration Bill, and against that St anleY, was sent off for presentation on Tuesd a y, of , 2).000 signatures attached. We had an opportunity `nart i c4/ 0 . k1 , 11 R over the two fi rst sheets, which contained the shiPOupwards of 150 of the leading merchants and of t i v i rn ers of the town, and amongst the latter !list of one world; greatest shipowners, if not the very greatest in the p etit . On Monday evening Lord Stanley prevented a the t i° , 4 from Belfast in favour of his own Bill, and boasted tvi,etue 1,607 individuals on whose requisition a public te ed ' .i nft had been convenerl, represented commercial and nn Property to the amount of 1,160 000/. We have Pro , 01 making anything like a guess at the amount •.,avhursroPetty represented by the merchants and . shipowners have e p imp s are attached to the Liverpool petition, but we 1 0 „,, no doubt whatever that it would be sufficient not only el the the 1,607 requisitionists out and out, mortgages •ti t ued. b u t would also buy the greatest part of Ulster.— ,ArPoo/ Mercury. • Vrtl i our am ▪ - d ERAL ELLIOT.--it is this wee k *iii ti rY to recoil the death of Lieut. - General morning of at , This melancholy event took place on the Born in 1. luny aeit4tli inst., at his villa of Rosebank. b i s l , l)9. the deceased was consequently 'od of ~I,o ll , : l e Tise in the 72d year of his age. The funeral, at the pert • h " bur Ael i T i l l t en on Monday last, was as witnessed since that of James Duke of Rox the most imposing wh •11 ire:---Ifelso Chronicle. utetitl: Charles Kean will commence an engage ._ the Ediab ' , Wed° • Theatre on Monday, the 15th inst. Non ercury. MARKET INTELLIGENCE From the London New Price Current of March 2 ) Suc it.—The West India market has been in a dull date since this day week, both groc, rs and refiners have bought very sparingly, and the purchases for the three market days have amounted to only 500 hhds and tierces ; although the stock held by the merchants is small, still they have been desirous to realize, and have submitted to a reduction on former rates of Is 6d for brown, and Is for yellow sorts ; the dull demand whieh has prevailed may be principally attributed to the large parcels of Mauril ins and Bengal which have been offered at auction ; Demerara of middling bright yellow quality has been sold at 755, good strong brown Jamaica and St. Kitts with some better samples on the bcard 745, low middling grey St. Kitts 755, good mid dling and good bright 76s to 77s per cwt. To-day there was an increased disinclination evinced on the part of the trade to purchase British Plantation, and the mar ket was in a dull state, so limited arc the transactions that they are not worth enumerating ; the few boards sold wore at prices rather under those of Friday. REFINED. —For Refined Goods, prices have further de clined 2s per cwt. ; Standard Lumps at 95s to 95s 6d ; Hambro Loaves and Tittlers good and tine 96s to 104 s, common 94c to 955, brown lumps, ord 90s to 91s, better 92 to 945. Treacle 33s to 34s for common, patent fetched 36s a 36s 6d best old make, and Golden syrup 39s a 425. Bastards of common sorts at 50s to 545, but better kinds have brought as high as 70s rer cwt. Pieces have undergone little variation, fine sorts 85s to hds per cwt. Bonded Crushed Sugar, 32s 6d for first quality. Loaves 14 lbs at 36s to 36s 6d, 101bs 37s to 38s, and 61bs 40s 6d to 41s per cwt. Treacle has been less in request, buyers have been compelled to pay 15s for small quantities, and parcels are not to be had under 14s 6d. Bastards and Pieces, the former at 16s to 19s, and the latter at 20s to 265. Dutch Crushed Sugar at 31s on board in Holland. To-day the home trade bought sparingly of Refined Goods, and rather lower rates were accepted ; 94s 6d to 95s are the nearest quotations for Standard lumps. Treacle dull of sale at 33s to 41s. Pieces and Bastards sold slowly at the rates quoted. Loaves and Bonded Crushed Sugar were in good request, sales of the former were made at 36s 6d to 37s 6d for lU and 14 ibs, and the latter at 32s 3d to 32s 6d per cwt. AlauarTrus.—This afternoon there was little demand, and of 2453 bags at public sale, a small part only found buyers at rather lower rates, low yellow went at 695, middling to good middling 70s to 735, good to fine 74s to 78s, fine brown 63s 6d to 655, low middling and middling 51s 6d to 565, low dark 48s per cwt. EAST INniA.—This afternoon the trade evinced little disposition to purchase Bengal at the public sales, which comprised 4,984 bags 45 boxes, the biddings were very lan guid, and not above 1,000 bags found buyers 2s to 3s under former rates ; fine white went at 81 s 6d, good 78s 6d to 795, middling 76s to 775, damps and washed 75s to 79s 6d pd cwt ; the remainder was all taken in, holders not being dis posed to take • the reduced rates the trade were inclined to pay. FOREIGN.—For yellow Havannah there has been an in creased demand, at full former rates, 3,800 have been taken by one firm for Holland at 24s for good strong bright quality of last year's importal ion, the remainder was disposed of at 23s 6d to 24, for ordinary and middling quality ; at auction 477 boxes were disposed of at 23s tid to 24s 6d for middling and good, but rather soft. White taken in at 32s 6d to 32s for middling soft. For white Brazil holders are firm, and bought in the sound of 157 chests 49 barrels Cuba at public sale, at stiff prices, viz. at 30s to 32s for low middling and middling quality: damaged, however, told at 27s to 28s 6d for low to good middling soft. White Bahia at 255. 6d for good mid, dling. Brown and yellow produced stiff prices. Bahia at 2256 d. Cuba good soft yellow at 23s 6d to 245, middling and low middling 22s 6d to 235, and washed 21s to 22s 6d. Porto Rico for refining at 23s for yellow, at 23s 6d for good brown, and 24s to 24s 6d for good strong bright yellow; a few lots washed went at 22s 6d ; Foreign Muscovado 22s 6d to 23s for middling and good middling soft yellow. To-day the market was firm for all descriptions, and brown sorts were in fair demand for both shipping and refining under bond, few parcels are offering for sale. MOLASSES.—The transactions have been on a small scale only, and prices have given way a little for the lower sorts, but good and fine have brought previous rates; common Tri nidad at 31 s. ; Demerara fair 325, good 33s ; Barbadoes, good, 36s ; St. `"intents, ord 32s ; common dark Demerara at 30s per cwt. . . COFFEE.—Holders of West India having supplied the mar ket sparingly with clean sorts, prices have generally been sup ported, but the trade have purchased very sparingly by private treaty, and only 11 trs mid Berbice have been offered at auc tion which sold at 97s 6d to 995, but unclean sorts have again given way in value : at public sale 53 casks were only partly disposed of at a considerable reduction, fine and fine fine ord Berbice sold at 62s to 70s, and 60s for ordinary. In Mocha few sales have been made, but the small supply keeps prices from going down materially. • This afternoon there was little passing in either East or West India, and prices have still a downward tendency, large parcels being declared for for public competition. 1,541 bags Porto Rico irom the Cape were offered at auction, and all bought in, viz., fine ordinary colory Dominica kind at 55s to 56s ; and good ordinary, 53s per cwt. By private treaty, scarcely anything was done. Cocoa.—For West India prices have given way Is to Is 6d per cwt ; Trinidad ordinary to good bold red at 50s 6d to 55s 6d, and fair to middling grey 50s to 51s 6d ; 334 bags fair grey Grenada were taken in at 49s to 50s. Prices remain firm for Foreign. TEA.—The market for Free Trade has presented a more lively appearance since Tuesday last, for black there has been a good demand from both town and country dealers, and the rates previously established have been fully supported, in deed for fine sorts of Congou a small advance has been paid. In green kinds the operations have been on a more extended scale at former prices, excepting for Twankay and the lower sorts of Hyson and Young Hyson, which declined in value id to ld at the public sales ; the total quantity offered at auction since our last report has amounted to 8,500 pkgs, and the large proportion of 8,000 were disposed of with fair spirit. To-day there was an increased demand for Free Trade, and pries improved: the public sales were well attended, the quan tity offered amounted to 6,500 pckgs, the trade were anxious to purchase, biddings animated, particularly for black Tea; of the quantity offered, 5,000 pckgs were actually sold at an advance on the rates of Thursday's sales of Id per lb for nearly all kinds on fine Congou, howeVer the advance amounted to 2d per lb.—Congou, fine blackish leaf strong Pekoe flavoured sold at 2s 5d to 2s 7d, but middling blackish leaf str and true Is 9i(lto i s 10d, but mid ra s'r Souchong kind Is 8d to Is Sid, but mid ra old and flat Is 71d to Is Bit ; Pouchong, faint and odd Is 61d to Is 7d, mid coarse ls 8-Ad to Is Sid; Hyson, mid to good mid str 2s 2-id to 2s 103 d ; Young Hyson, but mid coa Twan. fia 2s to 2s Id ; Twankay, but mid coa brnt Is 64d; Caper, good mid flat but I s 6,id to Is 6id per lb. In Company's Congou a good deal of business was done at is 7d cash.— Accounts from China by the Overland mail may be looked for about the end of the week. RICE.—.For Bengal by private treaty, prices are firm, mid dling and good middling white 13s to 14s per cwt. Prices are firm for Java and Siam, sales of the former have been made prlvately at 8s 6d to Its 6d for low to good quality. Carolina 34s to 36s is the value for holne use, and 22s for export. his afternoon there was a fair business transacted in East India, and prices were firm : at auction 1,735 bags Bengal were offered, about half sold at 13s to 13s fid for middling and good middling white, being full prices. RUM, BRANDY, AND HOLLANDS.—We have still to report a dull market for West India Rum, and so limited have been the transactions both in Leewards and Jamaica that they are not worth enumerating; prices have given way a little, sales of proof Leewards 2s 6d per gallon. East India has declined in value, and the demand has been dull ; 50 puncheons Calcutta have been sold at Is 10d proof, and 100 hoghheads do, at 2s. The Government contract fur 100,000 gallons of Rum, half to be from British possessions, has been taken by Messrs. Mohon and Simonds at the low rate of 2s Id 3- :6ths proof strength, being a reduction on the con tract of Noveraer last of 9d per gallon. Brandy of the vintage of 1836 has been in fair request for home use, and prices are firm, but other kinds have met with a slow sale: the principal part of the late large arrivals are new sorts ; we quote Cognac, first brands 1840, puns 3s 7d, hhds 3s 9d, second do, puns 3s 3d, hhds 3s 6d, third do, puns 2s 10d, hhds 3s, common pnns 2s Bd, hhds 2s 9d; first brands 1839, puns 4s 6d, hhds 4s Bd, second do, puns 4s, hhds 4s sd, third do, puns 3s, hhds 3s 2d ; first brands 1838, puns 4s 10d, hhds 5s ; first brands 1837, puns 5s id, hhds 5s 3d; first Prands 1836, puns 5s 4d, hhds 5s 6d; fine old, puns 5s 10(1, hhds 6s ; Bordeaux, puns 2s 3d, hhds 2s 4d. For Geneva a fair demand has prevailed, 2s to 2s Id paid for pale, and 2s 6d to 2s 8d for fine for home consump tion.—British Corn Spirits have met with a slow sale at lOs cash. The stock of West India Rum is 2,637 puns 158 hhds larger than last year at this time.—Duty has been paid to the 13th February 1840 on 80,547 gallons Brandy, and to the same time 1841 74,191 gals ; of Geneva 1840 725 gals, 1841 438 gals ; of Rum 1840 122,629 gals, 1841 113,634 gals. To-day the operations in Hum were on a small scale only, and rather lower rates were accepted, sales of proof Leewards were made at 2s 4 1 / 2 d to 2s 5d per gallon. SPICES.--This afternoon only a limited demand existed for Pepper ; 3,791 bags Black, and 173 bags White were offered at public sale; of the former two-thirds were taken in, the re mainder sold at former rates, viz., fair half heavy h own Siam at 31.0 ; Sumatra at 31C:d for fair quality ; damaged, 3i-cl to 3ad ; white was taken in at 7d to 9d for low middling and good middling quality.: Oms.—Prices have been firm far Seal and Cod Oils, the former at 3215 s to 32/ lOs for pale quality ; and the latter at 271; Southern fine sorts, 291 to 301 ; common to good, 271 to 281 lOs : Sperm Oil, fine quality, 102/ per tun. For Linseed Oil, prices have fallen to 26s 9d to 27s per cwt ; for forward delivery at 27s 6d to 27s 9d. Rape has sold slowly. For Olive, prices firm. Cocoa Nut at 38s to 39s ; Palm at 33/ to 34/ for good quality. TALLOW.—There has been a good demand for Petersburgh Yellow Candle on the spot since this day week, and prices are firmer ; 46s 6d have been currently paid for fair qualities. For delivery for the next two months, 46s to 46s 3d ; and for the last three months of the year, 46s 3d ; and, in some in- stances, 46s 6d have been paid. South American better sorts, 44s to 45s 6d. Town Tallow has supported former rates. To-day prices were firm for P. Y. C. at 46 6d on the pot, and 46s 3d for delivery, and a fair business was done. ' THE QUARTERLY REMOVAL OF THE HOUSE HOLD INFANTRI.—Monday morning the quarterly removal of the various battalions of the Foot Guards at present in the metropolis took place as follows : —The first battalion of the First or Grenadier Guards left their late quarters, the St. George's Barracks, for the Tower, vacated by the third battalion of the same regiment, which proceeded to the Portman-street Barracks. The second or Coldstream Guards left the Wellington Barracks, and replaced the Grenadier Guards at the St. George's Barracks; while the Third or Scotch Fusileer Guards have taken posses sion of the Wellington and St. John's Wood Barracks. The second battalion of the Grenadier Guards and the second battalion of the Colelst'esms are at present in Canada. Tire whole of the men in the five battalions ap pea-ed in a most excellent state of health. GRAND DEMONSTRATION AT GLASGOW — The Anti-Corn-law Association of Glasgow hi,ve an nounced a Grand Demonstration to tske place here on Easter week. Many Members of Parliament, and the leading friends of the cause in Winchester, are expected to att,nd on the occasion.—Glasgotv Argus. Died, at Elie, Fifeshire, on the 27th of January, in the 90th year of her age, Mrs. Carstairs, late of Grange. This venerable lady, whose maiden name was Henderson, was a lineal ee3Qndant of the family of Alexander Henderson, Moderator of the celebrated Ge neral Assembly, 1638, and one of the principal instru.. meets in effecting what has been called the Second Re formation of the Church of Scotland. She was one of a f amily of five ; and, what is remarkable, all of them were alive ten months ago—the youngest being in his 81st year, and their united ages amounting to 425. Mrs. Carstairs lived universally respected, and has died full of honour as of years. There was a heavy failure announced in Liver pool yesterday, the first of any consequence that has oc curred here for some time.—Liverpool Times of Tuesday. Mr. E. B. Roche, M.P. for Cork County, has paired off, from next Monday until Easter, with Colonel Conolly, M.P. for Donegal. SUN'; LONDON, WEDICESDA.Ys MARCH 8, IR4i. PARLIAMENTARY BUSINESS. NOTICES GIVEN AT THE PRIVATE BILL OFFICE. SATUItnxY, Fun. 27. Brompton amt Earls Court Road,—Com. on Pet., March 10. Great Leinster and Munster Railway,—Com. on Pet., March 10. Ardrossan Harbour,—Committee on Pcti;ion, postponed from March 2 till March 5. Chelsea Pocr,—Second Reading, March 3. Bolckow's Naturaliz.ition,—Second Reading, March 3. Collyweston Inclosure,—Committee on Bill, March 8, at two. Southorpe Inclosure,—Committee on Bill, March 8, at two. South WE stern Railway Bill (so. I),—Committee on Bill, March 8, at two. MONDAY, MARCII 1. Coundon Inclosure,—Committee on Petition, March 12. Christchurch and Lyndhurst Road,—Second Reading, March 5. Glasgow and Dundyvan Junction Railway,—Committee on Peti tion, postpone.l from March 3 till March 5. _ . ShMts and Wilsontown Railway,—Committee on Petition, post.. poned from March 3 till March 8. Stoke-upon-Trent, &c., Small Debts,—Second Reading, Mar. 5. Scrabster Harbour,—Committee on Petition, postponed from March 4 till March 8. Wicklow Harbour,--Corn. on Petition, adjourned till March 2. Gourdon Harbour (No. 2),--Com. on Pet., adjourned till Mar. 4. Dundalk and Bainbridge Road,—Comtnittee on Petition, ad.. journed till March 9. SAlgley Road,—Second Reading, March 5. Thames Haven Dock and Railway,—Committee on Petition, postponed from March 3 till March 10. Nottingham. Gas,—Second Reading, March 5. Harrogate Improvements,—Second Reading, March 5. Hawkhurst Junction Road,—Second Reading, March 5. Dean and Chapter of Westminster's Estate,—Committee on Pe. tition, March 12. Waningore Inclosure,—Second Reading, March 5. TUESDAY, MARCH 42, 1. Cambuslang and Muirkirk Road and Bridges, Committee on Petition, postponed from March 5 till March 9. 2. Portishead Pier,—Com. on Pet., adjourned till March S. 3. Herculaneum Docks (No. I),—Corn. on Petition, March 17. 4. Herculaneum Docks (No. 2),.—Com. on Petition, March 15. COMMITTEES ON PRIVATE BILLS APPOINTED BY TIIE COMMITTEE OF SELECTION. I. Abingdon Road Bill, referred to Mr. Bernal, Mr. Duffield, and Mr. R. Palmer. 2. Britannia Life Assurance Bill, referred to Mr. Bernal, Mr. Pease, and Mr. Brotherton. 3. Barnstaple and Braunton Roads Bill, referred to Mr. Bernal, Sir B. Chichester, Sir T. Dyke Acland, and Mr. Frederick Hodgson. The meetings of the several Committees co these Bills is fixed for Friday the 12th of March, at one o'clock. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, 2+lAncli 2 Their Lordshi;)s mct at Five o'Clock. The Earl of STRATFORD prevented several petitions from Donegal aga'nst Chu, c.) in Scotland. The Maripis of NORMANBY laid on the table returns relating t') the disciplin e of gaols in Ireland. Also a le turn of persons nominated to act as Sheriff; of Coun ti in Ireland for the yebr 1811 ; and a return rel fling t.) the Vaccine Institution. The Al.trqui: of DOWNSIIIIZE presen!el teitions from several congregations is connexion with the Pre by terian Church cf Ireland agtinst Church Patronage iti Scotland. Tl.e Duke cf CLEVELAND presented a petition flour Sundeiland in fivour of the Drainage inTowns Bill. The Marquis of SALISBURY inquired of the Noble Marquis, the Seerrt,ry for the Home Departmet t, he tier it was the intention of her Majesty's Ministers to propose any measure to alter and amend the Turnpike Acts of England and Vales? The Merquis of NO RICIANBY said that he had given his bee attention to the subject. Thcre was at present a great pressure of business connected %%hit his de partment of the Government in the other House, which pi evented him f om stating the precise course which might be taker. But for the satisfaction of the Noble Lord, he would depart from the course usually followed under such circumstances, and state that a Report would be laid before the other House, and upon the manner in which that Report might be received must depend the measure which would be proposed to Parliament. CHURCH PATRONAGE (SCOTLAND.) The Earl of DA LHOUSIE, seeing the Noble Earl (Aberdeen) in his place, would ask, according to the notice which he gave last night, what the Noble Earl iet.mded to do this Sessile with respc et to the Bill which he brought in last y ear on the subject of Church retro nege in Scotland? The Noble Lord at the head cf the Government had said that he would not introduce any measure on the subject, but would leave the law as is stood to vindicate itself. If the measure cf his Noble Friend (the Earl of Aberdeen) hal been carried last year au end: might have been put to all causes of dissension ; but since that was withdrawn the demands of the extrorne party had increased. They would have been satisfied last year, with a mere veto upon the no mination, but now they called for an entire abolition of patronage. They had declared that no measure falling short of their demands would have a beneficial result ; and under those circumst traces, he- thought, that the only thing to be done was to leave thel aw as it stood to exercise its own authority, and to vindicate itself upon the heads of those who violate or evade it. The majority of the people of Scotland who could form an opinion on the subject, and the whole body of the Dissenters, were op posel. The Noble Lord concluded by asking of the Earl of Aberdeen, whether is was his intention to bring in this Sessi in any Bill upon this subject similar to that which he proposed last year. The Earl of ABERDEEN said Le was not sorry to herr the question put to him by I is Noble Friend, for he had received inquiries of a sinner nature from so many parts of the country, accompanied by such strong repre sentations, that he was glad to be able to state the course it was his intention to pursue, and, at the same time, in a few words, his reasons for adopting it. Their Lordships were perfectly aware this subject had lost none of its interest or importance, but he (the Earl of Aberdeen) thought in the course of the last few months it had assumed new features. It might probably appear somewhat s . range that he should he sitate in renewing a measure which had met with no formi dable opposition in that House, the second reading of which had been carried by a large majority, and which had passed through Committee, and been reported to the House—a measure too which had been received by a large body of the parochial clergy in Scotland with decided approbatien, which they came forward voluntarily to declare. When he said the parochial clergy he spoke not of unendorsed minis ters, or of those whose position was equivocal in the Church, and respecting whom it was doubtful eleseher by law they formed part of the Church Courts or not. But of the Established Clergy nearly half had came forward and subsci ibed a declaration in favour of the measure. The measure had also been received by a major ity of the laity of all ranks with entire acquiescence. But nevertheless he could not forget that the Government had thought it their duty to object to the measure. He did not allude to his Noble Friend, the Noble Viscount at the head of her Majesty's Government, because he (Lord Melbauree) had ex , pressed no opinion on the merits of the measure; but, on the contrary, had abstained from doing so, and therefore, if he thought fit, there was nothing to pre vent him (Lord Melbourne) from making it his own to morrow ; but many of his colleagues, and particularly the Noble and Learned Lord, who usually presided in that House, had strongly objected to the Bill as a conce,si in to unjustifiable pretensions, and a wanton violation of the rghts of patrons that at the very same time the Gene-al Assembly objected to the measure as Eras tian and incompatible with the scriptural independ ence cf the Church, as riveting still more strongly the fetters of patronage, and finally, as tending to dethrone the Redeemer from his seat. Now, of these different classes of objections, far as they were as the poles asunder, he hoped his measure was justly liable to neither ; but, if so, he left it to the reason of any man in his senses to decide which might, with the most appearance if truth, be urged; but different as these objections were, when united in practical opposition to the measure—they ap pealed to him to deprive it of all chance of effect ing the only good he had hoped from it, that of restoring peace to the Church ; and when that opposition was aided prac'ic.lly by the resister-ea of e Government, and of t' e dominant party in the As sembly, it would prevent the beneficial s ffect which he had been sanguine enough to anticipate. It was in consequence of this feeling that lie did not press his measure through the House. He was not aware that any change had occurred in either of the parties who objected to his 8,11, and therefore the same reason would prevent him from pressing it upon the House in the pre sent Session. But there was an additional reason. He had leen told last year that the object of the petitioners for non-intrusion was the total abolition o: patronage ; and though he did not at the time believe it, he had some reason to think that this was the real subject at which the party who had referred to him [aimed. The me:sure he introduced was certainly not calculated to satisfy them on this polo:, and therefore for this and the previous reasons it would be useless to renew it. He understood her Majesty's Government had maturely considered the subject, and that they had come to the determinat'on to preserve the law as it at present stood. He Lai nothing to quarrel with in that decimation, as no doubt they bad seen nothing which would render a change in their plans judicious. He lamented the course taken last year, but no doubt the Noble Viscount acted in a manner which he thought consistent with his duty. But to make that declaration eff.ctual, it must be honest and sincere. He did not mesa to intimate any doubt of the honesty or sineer . ty of the Noble Viscount, but that he must take care that the other Members of his Government acted and spoke in harmony with him. Unless he did so the people of Scotland would be misled and deceived. For instance, the principal law officer there, the Lord Ad vocate, was looked upon (he was sure erroneously) as their principal supporte". In that House they knew how to estimate the dimensions of a Lord Advocate—( A laugh)—but in Scotland he was looked upon as a much more important personage than the Noble Viscount himself—he was, in fact, the Govern ment himself.—( Hear.) He was happy, howsve-, to find that the Le.riied Lord had retreated from hi; pc sition, and had declined to attend at a public dinner, on the ground that a public demonstration at that time would not advance their common objects. These objects were the destruction of all patronage, and the stigmatising the judgments of the Supreme Courts in Scetland, and of that House. Such declarations were very injurious, and the dominant party in the Assembly of Scot land had circulated a report that it was his inter.tion to bring forward a measure of a much moro co ercive and stringent character, although he depreca'ed such an idea. He trusted that eventually the law, tempo rate4, firmly, and steadily administered, would be found too strong for those reverend agitators. On the motion of Lord REDESDALE, the Commit tee on the Copyhold Tenures Bill was postponed ti] Friday. Mr. Sergeant JACKSON presenti3d a pet . tion from Kilkenny in favatir of Lord Stanley's Bill for the Regis tration of Voter: in Ir,‘land. M.-. M. PHILIPS presented a petition from the Clamber of Commerc. of Manchester, praying for the adir.ission of East India produce at the same rate as the produce of ether countries. Mr L. HODGES presented a petition, praying that he House would not consent t•) any extension of the ~owcr,7 of the Poor-law Commissioners. Mr. FIELDEN presented petitions with a similar prayer from Broomsgrove hill, and two places near Car Hale. Sir F. POLLOCK brought in the Double and Treble CorAs Bill, which was read a first time. Mr. M. J. O'C 0N NE LL presented two petitions from places in the county of Kerry in favour of the Govern ment Registration Bill fur Ireland, and against that of Lord Stanley. • • Mr. TURNER presented three petitions from respect able houses in Manchester against the C o py r i g ht a Dc sig,ns Bill. Mr. FOX MAULE presented several petitions from Scotland, praying fur the total abolition of Church Pa tronage. Captain POLHILL pre cafe" petitions from the county of Bedford, against any further grant to the Col lege of Maynooth, and in favor of the eitmsion of re.ii gious education. Mr. E. ROCHE presented a petition from Kilve', in the county of. Cork, against Lord Stanley's Irish Registra tion Bill. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL presented a petition from the Lord Provost and Corpora'ion of Edinburgh, prayirg fir the ternov2l of all restrictions on free trade. GRINISDITCH presented a petition from Man chester, against the Copyrizht of Designs B 11. REGISTRATION OF VOTERS (IRELAND) BILL. Mr. HUME presented a petition from a place in the county of Tyrone in favour of Lord Morpeth's Bill, and against' Lord Stanley's ; also petitions to the same effect from places in the counties Fermanagh and Cavan. CHURCH-RATES. Mr. EASTHOPE gava notice that on Wednesday, the 10th of March, he would move for leave to bring in a 1311 for the abolition of Church-rates in England and Wales. Mr. M'KINNON said it was not his intention to pro ceed with the motion of which he had given notic.3 on the subject of the Iralth of towns, as the Government had taken up the subject. PARISH CONSTABLES. On the motion of Sir E. KNATCHBULL the second reading of the. Pa4.rish Constables' Bill was postponed till Tuesday, the 9th of March. Colonel PE RCEVA L moved for leave of absence for Colonel Henry White till after Easter, on the ground of urgent private business. - Lord HO WICK said they ought to take care that the motion would not interfere with the public business of the House. If he mistook not, Colonel White was on the panel and was liable to set ve on the Election Committees. He did not mean to offer any opposition to the motion, but he thought they ought to inquire into the nature of the business which prevented an Hon. Member taking his share in the business of That House. Sir R. PEEL thought when an Hon. Member moved for leave of absence, he ought to state what panel he was on. Now it appea•ed that the Hon. Member was on No. 5 panel, and was not likely to be called upon for some time. •- _ _ Mr. Sergeant JACKSON knew that Colonel White had very important private business to attend to in Ireland. The motion was then agreed to. On the motion of Mr. 11 AWE S the Medical Profession Bill was postponed from Wednesday till Wednesday week. RAILWAYS. Durham and Sunderland Railway 13111.—Read second time, and committed, and referred to the Committee of Selection. • '• Petition; for a more fair and equal rate of taxation upon passengers by railway; from the Manchester, Bolton, and Bury Canal Navigation and Railway Company ; and Garnkirk and Glasgow Railway Company ; to lie on the table. Manchester and Leeds Railway.—Petition for Bill reported— Report referred to the Select Committee on Standing Orders. West Durha•n Railway.—Petition for Bill reported; and BR ordered to be brought in by Mr. Harland, Mr. Bowes, and Mr. Liddell. SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS FROM THE DAILY PArERS OF YESTERDAY. (From the Globe.) Beyond the limits of his constituency, Mr. Ainsworth, the Member for Bolton, is not a personage likely to excite the :lightest interest ; and we take it for granted that the Bolton Liberals have their eyes open upon the votes which Mr. Ainsworth deems it consistent to give with the professions he made at the time of his election, and whk h obtained for him the support which sent him to Parliament. By voting in direct opposition to those professions, he has enable * d the Bolton Liberal electors to estimate him at his real value to the cause he was sent to the House of Commons to support. Does Mr. Ainsworth imagine that a vote on free trade, or a stray vote with the Radicals in a small minority, will be regarded as a setoff against vot:ng with the Tories on such a question as that which was the subject of discussion during last week, and which involved in its results the important issue, whether Ire land should be mocked with the form, but be deprived of the exercise, of .a popular franchise ? We presume that Mr. Ainsworth is aware of his position at Bolter) ; that if not taken up by the Tonic', his poker of damaging the cause of Reform, by strength ening the lands of' its er.emiez, will terminate with the present Parliament; fur, assuredly, no Liberal who looks to tire division lists will so stultify himself as to record his vote for a nominal Reformer—who votes with the Tore., against a Bill, the object of which was to preserve the Reform Bill from being teutral.zed in Irclaad, and the defeat of which involved the fate of a Liberal Administration. We were gratified to see the let ter of Mr. Swynfen Jervi . , in which he ascribed his ab sence from the division, without a pair, to sudden illness, but for which he would have been in his place, and voted for Lord Morpeth's Bill. We hope that the lion. Mem ber's reAorati m to health will be complete ; and that no future al:err:tiring from the course of political consistency will excite susp'cions of the sincerity or strength of his !released attachment to a Liberal Government. (From the Standard.) We were enub:ed to state yesterday what the Minis terial Journals could not or would not make public—the important fact, namely, that the further consideration of Lord Morpeth's Bill would be postponed until after the Easter recess. Accordingly, Lord John Russell last night fixed the Committee for the Bill for the :713d day of April next. The Noble Secretary for t!.e Colonies made a speech upon the occasion, in which lie confessed that the vic tory of Friday muraing was so like a defeat that he had little hope of carrying the measure through, but he professed to hope for 507.0 advantage from further information. Further information upon a subject upon which Ministers base brew pledged to make inquiry during nine long years, upon which they have brought lin a'ready Jour bills, and which was v7gorously de. ated during the grea'Ar part of the last s.ssion. 1.)..es Lord John Russell forg t that he brought in a till rev,lutionisir g the parliamewary constitution of England within three months of the accession of Li; party to office? There was no want of time for that further information which, it appears, is indispensable, ecen after the lapse of nine jears, and after the' debating of five bills (Lord Stanley's excluded) in several of these nine years, to come to set about an Irish Registration Act. But what is this further informa ion to illustrat.! ? Not the value of b/. sterling, or the duration of fourteen solar years—these arc things already fixed and ceitair. Not the numbers of the hish population, the pro portions of the several proprietary or non-proprietary classes, or the number of electors—full informa ion in these respects may be had from parliamentary returns. We imagine that the further information must con cern the definition of the fianchise qualification. Have the minority come to a sense of their duty, and declared that they will administer the law ; as it is hoped, by . placing Mr. O'Connell and a few more corrupt persons on the bench to convert the minority into a majority? This, however, is trifling—the postpone ment is a clear unequivocal confession of aefeat—a diAiirct abandonment of the Bill—a declaration that its only pur pose was to embarrass and reta-d the Bill of Lord Stanley by chicanery and vexatious delay, in the hope that that Bill may Le evaded this year, as it was last year, by a dilatory process. (From the Courier.) To-morrow is the day fixed for the second reading of Mr. Emerson Tennent'a Bill, called the " Designs Copyright Bill," which, as it would seem on its f ice disentangled from any mere party involvements, it may be hoped rather than expected will escape not only the direct opposition of Ministers, but that indirect and not less efficacious, however paltering, hosti ity which is shown by taking pains that a House shall not be tnade to entertain the question on its merits. It may seem strange that, at this time of day, it should be found necessary to frame and pass laws for securing to a certain class of artists or artisans the right of property, for the iaaignificant term of one year, in what is and should ba their own by the most sacred of all rit'e , , for we know of no title so sacred as that establishei by genius or ingenuity in the produce and sole profit of its own ins entions, discoveries, or im pr:vements. It is, however, exactly of this most incon testable of all rights, that the calico printer or pattern designer is defrauded by the present state of the law on copyright in designs. The a tilt gifted with taste and skill may, and does, from his humble studio, labo riously contribute in every way to the arts, elegan cies, and pleasures of refined society, as well as to the enjoyments and comforts of more humble life, by the magic creations of his pencil, and the brilliant and ever-varying combinations of his colours. but he is not the labourer counted legally worthy of his hire, but made rather the special mark far dishonest dulness to copy, and unprincipled pirates to plunder with impunity. The parsimonious protection dealt out to the pattern designer and calico printer for the choice productions of art and ingertuity extends to three months only, co that just when the arduous labours, anxiety, and expenditure of many previous months should reap their reward in the commencing appreciation of the public, their quarter's patent expires, and the pirate who has already been at walk in copying the fashion stamped pattern, the sole hope of return profit to the propriet , ,r out of various designs, all, per haps, but this unsuccessful, and in the preparation of large stocks produced at the the ipest rates, si‘xe at no cost for original designs and printing them on inferior qualities of cloth, is enabled to overlay the market with his lower priced imitaf on goods, and so despoil the skilful and en terprising calico printer and pattern ins entor of the just fruits of his talent and industry. The Queen-Dowager has been graciously pleased to become the patroness of the East Sussex Infirmary. The Duchess of Kent is expected to leave In gestre House, and take possession of her new reiilence, Clarcnce House, about Easter. Workmen are engaged in making extensive a!terations, which are likely to be com pleted about that period. IMPROVEMENTS AT NEWCASTLE.—There has been planned and built nine new streets, extending collectively t..) or.e mile and the sixth part of another ; and these contain three extensive markets, under one general roof, which, with the fourteen entrances from the sur rounding streets, comprise an area of upwards of two acres; the 3 contain also d Central Exchange, since con verted into one of the most splendid news-rooms and coffa-rooms in Europe; a new theatre and new dispen sary ; a music -hall , a lecture-room, incorporate comp any ' s hall, two chapels , two auction-marts; ten inns and t we l ve public-houses ; four bank s, forty private dwellings of the first &a., and three hundred and twenty five houses wits shops ; the whole of which already realizes a rent a l o f 18,000/. a-year, and when completed will realize, according to valuation, forty thousand, exclusive of many valuable properties sold, such as the markets, the theatre, two banks, and two chapels. In one word, the new property already cranted by Mr. Grainger's vast conceptions, first formed ill 1833, and still in progress of extension, has been valued at 995,0001., or one million sterliig. —Granvilles Spas of England. SYRIA. The Earl of MINTO said, that on the motion for a vote of thanks in their Lordships' House to the officers who had served on the coast of Syria, a clericrl error had occurred, which, for the satisfaction of the officers concerned, he was anxious to correct. The name of Sir Charles Frederick Smith was introduced into the vote instead of that of Sir Charles Felix Smith. He was the more anxio us t o corr e c t the (rror as there was a junior officer of the former name in the corps. He begged leave to move, therefore, that the vote should be amended, and the name of Sir Charles Felix Smith substituted fo r that %%Inch had been inserted. The motion was agreed . to. o'clock he c H , o t u il s l e T t b h u e r n sd a a d ) j ,. ourne I, at a Quarter before Six 0, HOUSE OF COMMONS, MARCIA' 2. Th e SPEAKER took th e Chair at the usual hour. Sir G. GREY mo ved the re-wpointment of th e P r ivate S B i c r li ß ne o i b s ert Peel, Committee Hume, Mr. Loch, Lord Granville So merset, Mr. A g lionb y , Mr. Greene , Mr. Bernal, Sir Jo hn Yarde Buller, Sir Ja m e s Graham , Mr. Freshfield, Mr. Ellice, aid Mr. Esteoutt . — Agreed to. e Lord : Stanley, Mr. 1-I —Sir G. Grey, M r . L a b ouc h ere , Sir C. STYLE presented a peti ion from a place in Donegal in favour of the Bill on Irish Registration intro duced by Lord Morpeth, and against the Bill introduced by Lord Stanley. Mr. A. YATES presented two petitions from places in Carlow to the same effcct. Major VIVI AN presented a petition from Truro, against any further grant to the College of Maynooth. Mr. GRIMSDITCH presented a petition from Mac clesfield to the same effect ; and a petition, from the same place, praying for a restoration of a Protestant Constitution. Mr. T. PARKER presented five petitions from places in Lancashire, against the new Poor-law Bill, which the petitioners stated had led to increased expense. They prayed that the power of the Commissioners might not be continued. Mr. PL U VIPTRE presented a petition from a parish in Kent, against any further grant to the College of May nooth ; also a petition from South Mornington, in favour of Church Extension. Sir S. GLYNN presented a petiton from the Dean and Chapter of St. Asapb, against the union of that see with that of Bangor. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE presented a petition from the Chartists of Liverpool, agreed to at a public meeting, pray ing for the release of Frost, Williams, and Jones, and also that her Majesty would take such men to her Councils as would make Universal Suffrage a Cabinet Measure.— ( A laugh.) Sir. R. BATE SON presented petitions from the Pres byteries of Letterkenney and Donegal against Church patronage in Scotland. TEXAS. In answer to Sir Walter James, Mr, O'CONNELL said if the copy of the treaty with Texas was not laid on the table it would be necessary to postpone the motion of which he had given notice. SHERIFF COJJRTS (SCOTLAND). Mr. WALL ACE rose to move for a Commi tee to in quire into the nature and extent of the duties still incum bent on the holders of the now nearly sinecure office of Sheriff Principal or chief stipendiary Judge for each county in Scotland ; and, also, t s inquire into the nature and effects of the degrading system under which the above class of stiperliliary Judge; nominate and appoint diary deputy Judges, which Judges arc also paid out of the Exchequer ; and like all other deputies, are culled upon to perform, and actually do perform, almost the whole of the highly essenti II and most laborious duties thus cast upon the useful class of Judge=, who preside so satisfactorily over the county courts of Scotland." The Hon. Gentleman commenced by allud ing to the County Courts Bill, brought in by the Under Secretary for the Home Department, which he said would confer inestimable benefit on the large population of this country, and he (Mr. Wallace) sought to obtain the same benefit for Scotland. There were eighty Judges in Scotland, thirty of whom were sioccutists. By the Act of Jurisdiction, passed in the reign of George 11. it was provided that the Judges should hold iti .e rant Courts at different periods of the year. The Crown had the power to command them to do so ; but such had Leen the influence of the Irgel profession in Edinburgh, that they bad never yet performed this most constitu tional duty. He did not know how his Honourable Friend the Secretary for the Home Department could pro pose to introduce his system into England, and refuse to extend the same benefit to Scotland. In that c iuntry there were two sets of Judges. Those whom be had des cribed as sinecurists had very few duti.'s to perform ; and they were in the habit of nominating deputy Judges to perform the duties of the office. Could anything be more monstreus, than that a Judge should base a nominee Judge to perform his duties ? He would fell his Learned Friend the Lord Advocate that there had been very bad appointmerets of those nomieee Judges, and 'et in spite of that those Judges were far superior to those wh 3 appointed th tri. He hal described the thirty Judges as sieecurists, and he said their duties were of very lit le importance. Tie Learned Lord opposite was going to show the House that their chief remaining duty was of ne importance at all, for be had introduced a Bill, one of the provisions of which was, that the registration duties of the Appeal Court should be taken from them, and given to three persons, to be appointed by the Speaker. He might be told that the Report of a late Commis sion had sanctioned an Act of Parliament for the improvement of the Sheriffs' Courts, and that that Commission had given a decided opinion, which ought to bear strongly against the appointment of the Committee which be was then moving. He meant to bring a heavy charge 'against the Commission, inasmuch as they had not truly abstracted from the Jurisdiction Act, and they laid the superstructure upon a false, and he might almost say, a scandalous foundation. The Hon. Member then read a clause of the Jurisdiction Ac', and contended that it was demonstrative from that that the Judges were to make itinerant Courts. What did the Law Commissioners say ? They stttcd that the chief benefit of having local Judges war expedition and cheapness in obtaining decisions. He would advert to this hereafter, and show that those nice who were appointed were devoid of those qualification: which were there alluded to. Then, as to the residence of the Sheriffs, it was provided that every Sheriff-depute should reside per sonally in the county for four months in the year. But what did the Law Commissioners say in their first Repo' t, page 62? They added ti! word " substitute" to Sheriff, when extracting from the Jurisdiction Act, thus givinga false co louring to the real terms of that most important statute. He would venture to say that they bad been ab stracted for the purpose of a superstructure which, if the Committee he asked for was granted to him, would be overthrown. If the Committee was granted, he should endeavour to pick out such Members as would do justice to all parties'. He would now pass on to another part of the subject, stating only that he had no confidence in anything that the Report contained. The above took place under the;first Commission to inquire into the Scotch Courts ; and the second Commission, which was granted, was enjoined, among other things, ".to inquire into the expediency of circuits being performed by a cer tain number of non-resident Sheriffs, who should be re- t YOGI •• ••• • •• ••••• tained ..• for the purpose"—that Commission had left this duty totally unperformed, because they knew that such a case would be made as would render it incumbent for the House to inquire into the subject of the Scotch Courts. The Right lion. Lord Advocate well knew that in place a requiring the Sheriffs to remain in their county, the Act only required that they should hold eight sham courts throughout the year. He called them sham courts, be cause they were not public, and, in fact, the public knew little or nothing about them The Act further required that the Sheriffs should be practising bar risters, and it set up twenty-eight Appeal Courts in Edin burgh—which was one of the most preposterous things that. could possibly be conceived. Another reason why Ce Learned Lord ought to grant a Committee was, ti at that House had passed a Bill, four clauses of which r. galated the duties of those Court, which duties were conducted in a most unsatisfactory man ner, in consequence of the Upper House having thrown cut those clauses. It was for the honour of the House itself that a Committee should be appointed, in order to tee whether degradation had not been inflicted upon that House by such conduct. It was a fact that these Courts admitted of what might fairly be called t wo records, one consisting of the first set of papers called summons s, de fences, and replies ; the second of condescendence and ans viers—against wLich abomination the four clauses thrown out by the House of Lords provided. It was farther fact that no witnesses were ever ad mitted into them—that the Judge never delivered a judg ment in open _Court —all his proceedings were carried en in dumb show, and but for the expense they heaped upon the country all these proceedings would be a solemn farce. He had already endeavoured to describe the nature of the Scotch Judges, of whom there were thirty. He might probably be told that those Judges were men of high learning and acquirements—of great professional practice —men w e'l qualified to act as Judges. But he could tell the House, from accurate information which be had ob tained on the subject, that out of those 30 sinecure Judgeq, who were old mcn,eight had retired from business altogether, eleven of them might fairly be called old women, nine were in pretty fair practice, and two of them presided in their Courts most beneficially. Here was an anomaly in the Scotch "Courts which was not in those of any other portion of the United Kingdom— some of the Judges were ordered to be in their Courts continually, while others were order, dto be the r.verse. He ( Mr. Wal lace) moved in Committee last year to know how many haling advocates were at the Scotch Bar. The question was answered five, and ho had then asked what were their names, and could he have them. Tho answer was, No. How ever, he had learned their names from the witnesses who gave evidence before the Committe e, and be that not one of the Sheriffs were within the leading 25 J u coudnsee The Bill before them for England , which gave wagsts, o was an excellent one, and the Hon. Under Se dr yeraeota if there move to-night Lt. funds to pay those Judger,e were net sufficient funds for that purpose, f h (Mr J _. o W.) would show him where there were plenty o spare dges and spare funds too. Hoover, he would for not pr opos e f d.o England what he thought unfitanr He had learned from the Hon. Member for Bandon, who was on the Committee of last year, and who paid the w be subject, that in Ireland there closest attentivn • were only 34 Judges. What then could be the necessity for 50 in Scotland ? 19 of that number were incitc petent to discharge their dutie=, 9 or 10 eii I their duties well as barristers, but they did no duties as public Judge , . itwas a mere farce, it was a positive moelsyty, a s)ste, - n of patronage to which the public money ought Oct to be devoted. In Ireland they had thirty-four Judges receiving an average of 500/. a-ye Ir each, while in Scotland they had thirty Judges receiving an average of 7001. n year each. Thee Judges had fifty nominees who re ceived among them 20,150/. r-}ear. making 41,0001. In Scotland they [fad to pay fees on each sentence of transport - tion, although the sentence had Lever been carried into effect. That he thought wizs a posi,ive waste of publ c mone:.. If the regi•tration fees were taken away from the Scotch Judges his work would be done. But be knew why the present Lord- Advocate. like his predecessors, opposed all reform in the Scotch Judges, and indeed he did not believe that any Lord Advocate would be returned to that House jibe stood out boldly for a thorough re Isrmation of the Scotch Courts. lie had endeavoured to show the House that a Committee ought to be appointed, and he should eetts . rily divide the House upon it. 11.! hoped those Gentlemen who intended to vote against him would be ab!e to tell their constituents why they would not have the Scotch Courts improved ; but be should be surprised if and' man got up and said those Costa; wet e not capable of irnproveme.,t. He was not willing that Scotland should be degraded, and the people plundered for the mere sake of pa•ronage, a much higher value being :et upon it than the thing ss as worth, even when a contested election came. He concluded by moving for the appci itment of " Committee to inquire into the nature and extent of the duties still incumbent on the holders of the now nearly si necure office of Sheriff Principal, or Chief Stipendiary Judge for each county in Scotland ; and also to in quire into the nature and effects of t'se system under which the above class of Stipendiary Judges no minate and appoint Stipendiary Deputy Judges. Mr. GIL LON seconded the moti on . _ _ The SPEAKER hearing put the question, The LORD ADVOCATE sail that the Hon. Gen tleman hld ventured to state, in submitting his motion without the least particle of evidence, that the system uncle: which a class of officers, upon whom he had Lestowed great praise, but not more than ea: due to them, was nominated and appointed, saes in itself a degrading system.—( Hear, hear.) It was at least satisfactory to him, and he knew it could be so to the people of Scotland as well as to that House, to know, that in whatever manner that Ho nourable Gentleman might choose to characterise the system of their appointment, he was obliged ' to confess that they were a most useful class of officers, and that they discharged most onerous duties with honour and credit to themselves, and satisfaction to all. Hear, heir.) He confessed that, on looking at the terms of the motion, with the experience he Lai had of ti.e man ner in which the Hon. Gentleman conducted his motions, he was not at all surprised at the tone and temper with which h e hail entered into the discussion of this subject, but he did not think it worth while to reply in that tine and temper. The Hon. Member had used very strong language with reference to the Sheriffs themselves, which be (the Lord Advocate) knew could be rebutted in Scotland. He had said that his Noble Friend had stated that he was willing to grant the Committee of Inquiry if the House should thick it right; that might be so, but he (the Lord Advocate) thought he had sufficient firers, the statements of the Hon. Member himself to condemn him. He had stated that no person who Lad attacked the merits of the system of the Sheriffs aid Judges in Scotland were secure of their seats in that House; in short, he had told him (the Lord Advocate) that he could not exercise his own judgment, or speak Lis own mind, for if he did ht knew tie system was in such repute in Scotland that those who attacked it could not be secure of their se it, and yet i.e had told him that this was an improper system in Scotlaur. He thought the system of the Sheriffs' Comte which the Hon. Member did not at ail comprehend, had all along given great satisfaction in Scotland. A Commission had been geanted, and witnesses examined butt', in the profe sion and out of it, and every one was in favour of the system. The Hon. Gentleman had taken advantage of his position in that House to accuse a Commission, of which he was one, of bring guilty of misrepresentation for a pur pose. He (the Lord- Adsoeaee) would not retali ate. He could not say he spoke out of the abundance of his knowledge, nor would ho say anything furtier than that he spoke out of the abundance of his ig re ranee. He had heard no grounds male for the motion except one, and that was a mere assertion of the Hoe. Gentleman ; he said there ought to be inquiry, be cause the 3,e3ple in Scotia id were in general much dissatisfied with the system as it worked in Scotland. Now he would put it to any Scotch Member present whe ther that was the fact. He really thought it unnecessary for him to detain the House by entering into any details of the Sheriff system in Scotland. He might, however, be permitted to say, in every county is Scotland there was an officer called Sheriff Depute—it was formerly proposed that he should reside four months in each year in his county; but a very high authority at that time strongly objected to that ;ar rangement, as be thought it would be much preferable ill at he should always reside in Edinburgh, the bead-quart, ra of the law. There was in every county, however, a local Judge called the Sheriff Substitute, vsh3 regularly resided in his county, and administered justice there. He should be sorry to see the local administraebn cf justice entrusted, without any control whatever, to officers having from 3001. to 4001. per annum salary, and - subject to all the local influences of the society in which they moved. These influences were best counteracted by their acting under the control of another Judge residing in .Edinburgh, and altogether beyond that influence, while at the same time he was responsible for the acts of the local officer. Now, if they allowed the local Magistrates to be solle rated from the great system of law which prevailel in Scotland, they would create great confusion, and such a step would operate most in juriously against the due administration of justice. He contended that the Hor. Gentleman hid entirely failed to show that the Judges did not perform their duties in the most satisfactory mariner. Though he had called them sinecurists very high duties were attached to their office, and their performance of their duties had always reflected the highest honour upon them. Mr. HUME said he thought the Learned Lord bad quite misunderstood his Hon. Friend. His Hon. Friend had shown that there were 30 persons who had scarcely any duties to perform, and he argued that there was great re aeon for improvement in the system. The Learned Lord said that this system had existed 160 3 ears, and therefore it must be a good one. Why, it appeared to him (Mr. H.) that the existence of any Court for one hundred years was a very strong reason why it should be considered.—( A laugh.) His Honourable Friend had not complained of the manner in which jus tice was administered by the local and Learned Judges ; on the contrary, he stated, both last bear and the year before, that they did the business admirably, but that they were not remunerated as compared with the principal in Edinburgh. His Hon. Friend had recommended former occasions—he was now anxious to obtain proof in support of his views—that the local Judges should be placed on a more respectable towing. Thu appointments being in the hands of the Sheriff were more likely to be political then if left to the nomination of the Secretary of State. He ( Mr. Hume) thought these Judges would get through nearly all the business cf the counties if they were adequately paid. Ample means might be found, if they curtailed the numbers of those who were next to sine curists. He was not sure that one indisidual in Edin burgh could not hear all the appeals from all the counties in Scotland, and if so a great amount of money paid to the sinecurists would be saved, and what was more, there would be a uniformity of decision. Ho therefore thought the Learned Lord, knowing he had a weak case, had been anxious to shirk, and he certainly had succeeded in doing so, the strongest and most important part of his Hon. Friend's argument. He was sorry to say that he looked back to every thing which had been done for the last hundred years with great distrust..—( Great laughter.) He thought they were wiser in these days than people were a hundred years ego.—( Hear, hear, and renewe I laughter.) If knowledge hae been pregNssive he could not understand why decisions a hundred yea-s old should be binding now, if it was seen that something better could be done. The Learned Lord therefore had not grap pled with the point, that instead of thirty Judges being mt in tained as Judges of Appeal, a simple Court of Appeal, consisting of one or two Judges, should be farmed. Son.e of the Lords of Session had not much to do—( Hear, hear) —and they might with great propriety be appointed Judges of Appeal, especially as their salaries had been raised last Session. He hoped that the Hon. Member would see that the people of Scotland were entitled to have justice given them in the most expeditious way, and to have busi ness done at the lowest possible expense. That Hou e bad decided that sinecures should cease—why then, he would ask, should sir ecures be kept up in Scotland? His Honourable Friend ( Mr. Wall ice) had, he thought, made out an excellent case.—( Hear, hear.) They were under great obligati ins to his Honourable Friend for the perseverance with which he had brought that subject under the considere , i an of the House. Year after year he endeavoured to ben( fit the c ,untry, by point ing out the abuses of the system which was now the sub ject of discussion. a n iSca brrPre:lassirrfe- salary,- Mr. GIL LON contended that. the Hon. Member (Mr. at Wallace), in endeavouring to' remedy the abuses of the Sheriff system in Scotland, had both justice and right e reason on his side, yet he (Mr. Gillon) feared from ,, th tribunal to which he had to appeal that be hadlrnclahpe of success, because he always found a wonderful rtiog inci dence between the two great parties sine cures. His Hon. Friend who spoke las in t, whichrte referred hadto the abuse of the increase in the Judges ' o u f dg th e e llo c n o ) uit t t h ry ou c g o b u t id tb b a e t so takenme additional place l ast duties,yea r, o and a account e M re r b . y Gillen) ought to be imposed on them, ty b o a f dbean m relieved entione o d f . thTosheerethirty s s a t n e%c.ounred wonderful l e s s i m w i h l i a e r rh i and that similarity of set._ mat t e rs such as the p resent, senti ment between the t wo leading parties in the House, on en t would continue as l on g as p atrona g e and p r ofit lin cou'ld be held out by them to their adhereets.—( Hear.) He did not wonder at the cheers from the other side of the House. The party on that side of the House were no doubt looking to a speedy return to office, and to the abi lity of bestowing their patronage on some of the Tory lawyers of Edinburgh. He (Mr. Gillon) understood his Hon. Friend to have stated that at Leith cr E d i n b urgh no ma n presenting himself to the electors had a chance of be coming their representative unless he was the subservient tool of the clique who upheld the patronage system. The Noble Lord had said it was the opinion and wish of the profession that the Judges sh auld receive large salaries; a b p u rg t i mr s oc u wl c pi h nl w w a oa s ps i n na o i ots sinecure, e ienu o r p es i , r c i oa o tn n l da o n f dt ta h ht e a tct the t u ch n etmroyofir more office of here was was abolished the bett er . A return moved for bypofetiendSihHlyeorniiff-t. Member showed the number of appeals from Sheriffs Substitute to Sheriffs Principal, These were consider, able in amount ; but, on the other hand, the number of reversals was small, and the duty fright easily have been performed by the Lords Ordinary. He could not help thinking it somewhat any _ VENING . E S ‘ TeA, iy • ;. I A ' 4.! inalous that the Lord Ache caAk.- - ':\iif r. 1 Alinini,tration should be greeted with.speligud-efreirs • be the Tories oppreite ; and he (Mr. Gilloa).,thoo,ght tai t was prima.theic ev dence agnioct Li; case. The Learned Lord, 11- ris reply, had stated nothing to show what other duCes were performed by these sinecure officers. He Enew there was a feeling in Scotland that those offiecs were sinecures, and that tie mode of appointment was de grading, and such was his opinion ; and be should there fore vote wi , h hia floe. Friend. Sir G. CLERK thought there vas nothing in the stag !lieut. of floe. Mernbcr ft r GicAtock that re qtfred any answer. If he could believe the Hon. M tuber for Ktlienny, the systeoi of Courts in Sco Lind was inadequat r the demaut's if justice, and t! at this was the opinion cf a large portion of tie people But be (Sir G. Clerk) believed that every person ecius i ited with Scotland was prepared to give a di ect denial to that statement, and to state, on tie contrary, that it worked well, and gave general sari...faction, And on Li; own behdr, and from his own exptrieare. ne was enabled to say chat tlte grease t hent.Ct was derived to Scotland f osn tto She. A,' Courts of tin t ountry,— ( Hear, bear.) The lien. Menibi r fir Kilkenny had s t' at he had no ievetence f r an, t established one hundrAl years egr. lie (Sir G. (.1. re) belevel goldea age of ti e lion. Member ti I not extend farther bac:lce:ad than 1792.—(Leugl ter.) lie agreed it , eve y wcrd th t from the Learned Lerd-Advoc de as to the advantages which resulted from the Sheriff.: comirg lit, contact with their trethren of tie law is the Su perior Courts. Bfo e the Act was passed which re quired the Sheriffi to be lawyers, and to to ice in Edir, burgh four months of the year, tie Shet i f 3 were country gentlemen totally ignorant of la v, and their administra tion gave con . hual dissaeisfaction. The Right Hon. Gentleman complained of the ternis in which the Hon. Gentleman had put his motion on the papers of the House, %deal I c well knew would circula'e throughout Scotland, and create a prejudice against the administra tion cf justice in that country, and lower the position of the Judges in the estimati di! public. Mr. R. STEUART could not approve rf the crichate censure which his Hun Friend, the "introducer of tie motion, had hen el en the Judges who presided in the Scottish Courts ; although I e could not, but disk with him tat the nuther of Judges [right be concee!eetly diminislel. While, therefore, i.e would f2el it his duty to vote &r the motion of his Hon. Friend, he repuliated the i.ersonal ettacks he had made ; and though he thought that much in the present system eat good, he thought that ie. might in theory be smiceptible.of very considerable improvement. Sir R. .Ph; EL s i 1 that, so far as ho bad been.able to form at ouilion on the local administraVon , Of,jultice in Scotland, h's imp:csiion was that thepr t e h sc e t ,n tz e a s t s e i : wan r satisfactory, although it mi g ht b e ca p a bl e of parthiTim proven:cut o He did not, therefore, ore a Committee of liicv.iry it to the suhje.t and he was of opinion that such inquiries night tend to shake the authority of the Judges, which N7ould certain'y be a most sir:ous evil. He thought that the Hon. and Learned Gentleman the Lord Advocate had adduced the most con vincing reasons why they should nut accede t the me tion, and why they sho t ll no t see k to change the re...sent law in repect t o the administration urbi lc p o justice. The Honourable a l d L earned Member must however, have felt hhns e if wae putting icrward his epi' ins ; for, on 114 left, he might have seen the Hoe. Gentiemae (M-. Fox Mail ), the author of the County Courts' and on his right Ile! Node Lord, the auth ( f the Registration Bill. Ile (Sir R. Pt eh) wished the H n. and Le irned Gent i eman would use the same force of argumetit he had titae:cuingdi.splay el in opposition to thole me , sures.—(Laug - t le) Mr. F. MAUL E fe . .t bound to objet to the motion, from the very woe. ieg of the notice. ft had now gone ferxiird to tie pub![,: of Scotland, and were he now to came .t to tto appointment of its Comn i to: le would he giv . ng some caut.tesance to the th eges it contained. The app i ,or ettef a Ceelm . tee would catry with it a suspicion tie,t there was somcC.i ig wrong. It there was any toitg glaringly wrong it must in t ally come glaiir g) , before tie public, aed then it would le t e bounder[ duty of tie Executive to come ft r Nerd with a on e Iv. Let the Hon. Metiber bring fot wai rl his proj ,et i r tl e :haee of a Bill, and they would know wli:e they hail to meet, and let the ques ito he settled. Tie present plan i f the lion. Gentleman was eminently calcult cl to iejuie the adminis. tration if c liw in Sco•1 Mr. WA LL ACE replied. 112 had eeC g -e ily worded his moti in as it stood, faccause.eve.l word i. contained was true.—k Oh, oh.) It was ;he a ihered to every word of it. There was in Scotland a universal desire fir an alteration in thu system. With regard to appeals, the two Judges for Peebles and Bute had only two and a half epee its be tween them.—_(A laugh.) The Right Hon. Geetlernan would not give him a Committee, because he kneceteat the eff..et would be to pult down the whole of tne mischi rf. If irist.rad of these thirty useless men, thy hid twenty-6%1r Judges, whose duties were proFerly regt,:a.ed, the busi_ nt es would be fir more efficiently performed. It would depend upon the House whether the ceunsel which had been tendered would he us,ful. lie proposed to ;I er the terms of his motion, and to suggest it to the House in the fcllcoair g form !—.." Committee to irq .ire into the nature and extent of the dut:e; still ineurneent on the ofil:re of She 4f- Principal, or Chief Slipendiary Judge for each county in Scotland ; and also to inqu're into tl.e nature and effeos of the system under which the above class of stipendiary Judges norninete and appoint stipendiary De - put ) ; Judges." Stringers were htn ordered to withdraw, and the House divided, when tle e appeared Ayes Nees Maj.:l4c against the mreian — 49 On our r -adn icsi , n to the gallery, we fueled Mr. WALLACE on his legs stating that he should not press his other resolutions atter tee decision of the House. The resolutions were then with irawr. 111 . A YNOO rn COLLEGE. Mr. COLQUHOUN then rose for the puipoec of roo‘i ig for I.aye to bring in a Bill to alter and emeriti the Acts of ins Irish Parlian e it relating to the Coll , ge of Mayno;:th, tl.e 35th of Geo. 111. cap. 20, and the 40th of Gee. 111. cap. 85. He approached the question, of ul icb he had gi. en notice, with great anxiety and re luctance, not because he thought the subject was one un deserving the consideration of Parliament, but because it had been made the there're of strong religious feeling, and because it would be thought by some persons on thu ether side of the House that it was intcnded to attack their religi est Lei iciplee. He trusted that he should be enabled so to put it to the House as to eh-est it cf such a ch;racter, and that the di,cussion of it might be. approached without any religious asperities. He must confess that he had never yet been able to give a vote against the grant to the College of Nlaynooth, and far this reason tecause be found tl.at tee grant to the College had been continued f. r a lo: g series of years under 'eery important Acts of Parliament, and then fore it would not become the House to withdraw a grant so constituted without serious censide retion, and secondly I.e thought the Acts were cf such a nature as not to auteorise the lieuse to interfere without first a'terieg those Ac F. By the first Act, to which he alluded, tvrenty.ono trtetees of the Col!ege were appointed, eleven of whom were laymen, aid ten ecclesiastics. By the second Act the vision cf the College were consti tuted, among whom were the highest functionaries of the realm, the Chancellor of Ireland and the Judges ; and the LerJ Lieutenant who represented the Sovereign in that cmetry, was appointed to receive the Report, to receive and record the rules., to apprc ye rf the rules, and to op epvoe'nryt o t n h e e t P h r ,i e t si p d a e r n i t ia . me l n t t m h a u d i t g , v t e h n e r d e i f r o e r c e t , s b e e ne o ti b o v n io t u o s th to e College of Maynooth, and therefore when they were asked year atter year to vote against that grant to the College, he felt bound to say, finding those Acts sanctioned the College, that the firsts ep to Le taken was to alter and amend the Acts, in orecr t i remove the sanction which had been given, Hn wishel it to be understood di:tireay that when he spoke of the alteration, he did not mean any alteration depriving the Col'ege cf Maynooth of' any ptivate grants. He spoke only of the sanction given by the Act to the College of Maynooth, and he would put it to those who d sage( ei with the grants to the College whether the al teratian to which he tat alluded ought not first to take He had no doubt that on the other side* would be sail, what reason was there for such alteration?, He found those reasons in the Act; c f Parliameet themselves. These Acts evidently contemplate) two thing', inn such was the intention of Mr. Pitt. They fie ens control on the part of the )city o h v o tr clergy,te tofe and they contemplated ) a corerol l'i c s° be cn sli f ould r ixe able t o contemplated a suf Government. Now he thought that be was pr( f.2gged, it ,fy the House that while that Ace:lt, it controllwas provided that and therefore,) s e v eu e a e s was not possessed. By the fielt uld be laymen • there were the majority of the trustees h t w , o u u n l The A t The trustees so constituted t rn h a e r n t c n ath ec o c li l c es l i: y s m t:c a s n ,. (levee to ten under that ' Act. won efficient control. They ap pointedhad in that College upthe rules. But, one made by the next Act, the Act c hange eves and much frusta ed 'he views of Mr, Other antrdusrteeeus. Pitt and the Roma f,,ituna.etbiye, Catholic Professors, and C r o pr afh e ei . ,toble.ificr3s;t w b b e i w e te h tri ' er ny v p i o si w to e r r s, of fu a r n ie d ieg tl e .e ew of 1800, The m d a laymen. w trustees wera divided into two parties. d three were Protestaits, and two Roman turn to that Act they would find a most material altera • was transferred to the ti and g lateens . they were altogether Roman Catholics, four.fifths being Roman Catholic ceslesiastics, with power to fi 1 up their numbe r a s any vacancies arose. S o th at i istead of theobject Mr Pitt hid in view, the A ct o f 1800 turned thevisitation. uto a farce. divested the visitors of all power, and handed t over to the trustees Now, if it were wise that such a College as Mr. Pitt established should exist, and over which the Government should exercise a vieorous control, such an Act as that of 1800 should not stanch. If any lion. Member thought that these powers and that control should he restored, then that Hor. Member was bound to support his (Mr. Colquhoun's) motion; because otherwise they could not proceed a step. Whatever course was to Le adopted, the first step was to brilg in the Bill which he now n.oved for. It might he said 'that' by such an alteration, by removing the Lord-Lieutenant from all exion of the J u d ges and dignitaries of the !bud, control ove r th e C o ll ege, an d by removing the con they would be placing Maynnoth on - the li kale footing as the Be'fast Academy, and that would le thereby depriving it cf the very important Sanc tion it deoved from its connection with the Crown and th e Judges. He admitted it wou l d do so, aud • that it wou ld appeared to him a st rong tecommendseion of iceoanvsethcC:nllf,"e of Maynooth naked and is c l a c t! to the id,,iati Parlianne when a n y grant was proposed. Th t a h t e , hioanw:v,nrd, he thought the ti e war come (lOolting at the language of the petitions th at had peen presented f rom l a.-ions parts of the cou n t ry ) w h en the dissatisfaCtion pa and distrust that existed out of doors, as to the system purseed in the College of Map:ooth, should find an ec h o and a I. ..sponse 1 9 th at H ouse, It .. was time, that the sanction gin Ns by the Government to Maynooth Eihould to withdrawn. If the House would allow him to refer to the foundation of the College of Maynooth, and the eemraet which it was stated by the 'lon. and Learned Member for Tipperary existed under the Act cf Union, be thought he should be able to them them tl at a very different conclusion was to tl f-om these circum- 37 86