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FOR THE SUN. THE BIBLE. MR. EDITOU,—As it has never been nay int-el-I lion to enter into a personal controversy 'on the subject of Mr. BELLAMY'S New Translation of . the Bible ; but only to point out, as far as my humble appvehension extended, what T conceived to be - bis errors, or those of kis admirer. ; and to cau tion the public against the unguarded reception of a Work whicb, on some points, appeared to be of a dubious, if not a dangerous, tendency; I, there fore, beg leave to address to you, my remarks on - STACKHOUSB'S Letter to me, as inserted in your Paper of the 2(1 inst. Ist. T did not merely ask why STarxttou.ti in discriminately abused Mr. B's opponents, but why he contented liimatif with so doiog, instead of adopting " the more manly, and certainly more philosophical msty!er of answering their argu ments." This he still declines doing. However he may alfeet to despise them, till Ie do answer them, they must he allowed to stand. 2d. From the second paragraph, STACKI - 10t 7 sE plainly in'immes that he intends to build his Faith on Mr. BELLAMY'S interpretations , " llts answer with me," STACKIVW.P says, " is deci ., re." If he think Mr. B. less likely to be mis taken than St. Part. or St, JA74 Ks, who wrote front inspiroliQn, but whom he yet thinks may he " innocently mistaken," 1 eau only congratulate Mr. R. on the power he h•ts obtained over his Convert. The words, " because thou 'last not ssithheld tby Son," &c. alone do not itnply a " command;" but they imply, undoubtedly, ap proba,iou of ABRAH AM's ConiphanCe will! a pre vious command, as the whole context clearly proves. 16r. B's argument against our received interpre tation is drawn from his notion of such a command being ir.consiitent with the Divine Nature. Su it would be, had it brew intended as whet than is Tyne a grv,tter Sacrifice to be after worth ojered in the Fero'? of CHFlist. Upon 'd r. B's argu ment, the' cfore, STACKfioUsts's obrervation must fall to the ;;round ; as tile same Divine Essence never could have hetn pleased at a freewill offering of such a nature, in which light STacmiouse pro fesses to cooader it. 3 I must beg leave to consider thris Sec tion as a rather awkward mod:• of waiv ing arguments ‘vhich he cannot meet. Mr. work has been cens►►red "at its birth," from his endeavours to do away the meaning of p,ilsnges which are of consequence to the Chris tian F a ith ; which have obtained in all ages; x\ hieh the inspired Apostles (who surely knew T s much of Ilia matter as Mr. B.) have con6mttd, and whole received inrerpretation Mr. B. his not proved to be erroneous 4 though he has asserted it to be so. 4. Is merely personal. As the passage stood, it is something like Causistry to deny my charge. ' 4 is said by SCSUTATOR, µ'lio appears t►, know as little of the spirit of true Christianity as any half-witted follower of a Methodist Preacher." 1 transcribe it from the letter now before me. A fair inference is allowable that lam one. But I have no wish to talk about myself. 5. If STACKHOUSR reps el►e►►d an ungentlemanly tone in others, he bas no excuse for adopting their language himself, which in very many epithets he has done. The above is one instance ; I could .paint out many more ; but this is again personal, and has nothing to do tvi h the main question. 6. Philosophy has nothing to do with Religion on prints purely of faith. On these only do 1 deprecate its reasonings. If STACKHOUSR deny this, he must deny his faith, on which I defy hint to reason, nnless he can reason on Divine mys terits. If we believe only what we can c0u,:,1 c bend, our faith NM be as limited is our faculties. Our very existence is a mystery to its. As far as morality is concerned, i e. th practical part of }feligion, 1 always agreed with STacy.nousz. I never s i'l, or could seem to inter, that " Christianity iticuleates only moral obligation." I thank Smox.nouss for the information which follows this remark, which I learnt at school, — but he may observe, it be turn to my letter, that I objected this doctrine to him, when 1 •aid, that it this were the case," the Heathen and the Chris tian would be so tar on a par,''—when, admitting with him that CHRIST taught morality " in purity and beauty." I added, " but did CHRIST teach only morality ?"—and also, " if STACKHOUSB view his Saviour only as a moraLteacher, I shall know in what class of Christians to rank him." 7. Philosophy, I do say, has made men Atheists ; but " cannot make them Christians." The manner in which I prove it STACKHOUSB ►foes not notice.—lt may, perhaps, make them Christians as far as morality goes, hot no farther, and if so far only, they will not be Christians at all. The doctrine of CHRIST inculcated much more than morality. Had that alone been his object, why should he have suffered for mankind, to pur chase their redemption by his blood? STACKHOUSB should be cautious in saying' what is, or is not, Christian doctrine. The Established Church," which he professes to uphold, would not receive his te:aituouy if he deny what I here advance ; Dor will the Scriptures, on which alone its doc trines are built, bear him out in such an as sertion. 8. No Christian would use such arguments, if he thought twice. They are beneath answering, and prove, from STACKHOUSE'S own words, that his faith embraces only what he thinks he can com prehend. Ergo—it does not embrace the scheme rf man's redemption, from the Incarnation, down ward.r. which certainly passes all human " undcr standing !" 9. As a man, the same power that made SO CRATES, also made CHRIST. But CHRIST eXiSted from the beginning with the Father. His assmrip tion of the human nature was, " as 1 am taught to believe," miraculous. STACK HOUSE, perhaps, does not believe it. His comparison is not jut" in any point of view I had almost said, it is blasphemous. SOCRATES died, the victim of a barbarous mandate ; and died, indeed, greatly. Cuttt,T died " for the sins of the whole world;" a sacrifice ordained from the beginning ; of which cbe whole Jewibla dispensation is more or less figu. Tative. Will STAC'iIiOUSZ dare - to Assert that CH UST alld SOCRATES " (lied in the same Cause !! !" " Beyond morality," lie continues, " a belief in the divine author of all Nature, all Worlds, and all that therein is ) with a belief in his ovidence, I call religion." Is this ALL ? if so, it is the creed.of a Deist, not of a Christian; and it has so much " to do with Mr, BaLLAstY's Trans lation of the Old Testament," that if this be time belief to which it lead, it leads to undisguised So cinianism. Is STACK HOUSR " answered yet ?". 40. This paragraph leaves my argument precise ly where it was. STACK-HOUSE has given his meaning in the followioL4 words : " No one can judge whether Moses, and the inspired Writers, wrote down the exact worth which were revealed to them " As an observation it is puerile; as an argument it would do Mr. BRLL AM Y more harm than good. If "no one can judge," how should Mr. B. judge Mr. B. tries to prove our Trans lators wrong, because their interpretation would lead to a conclusion which he is disposed to doubt. STACKnotiSE ',VFW+ to imply, that Mr. B. may also find our that Moses and the inspired Writers were wrong ! I I. STACK HOUSE'S disclaimer of Btauornmus as a referee, is not upon reason, but upon general and unsupported assertion. A " mechanical Re ligionist," as he terms him, he has said what his opponents may find it hard to answer. At least he seems little inclined to try. Thns, Sir, I have endeavonred to reply, as briefly as possible, to STACKHOUSE's Letter to me ; I will only add, that I reply with nu personal ill will to him, or any mini. individual. It is only the argument I attack ; not the man. In pers.,nal controversy I wt.l not engage, My object ia to point out what may seem to hal e a dangerous tendency in Mr. litiLLAmY'S work, or in the writ logs of his supporters. I have advanced my vt arg,ninvtita—they have been waived, not answered. Al , (1 it STACK nOUSEI think to identify the cause which 1 sappor•, with that of " Faithsters" Fre (fuenters nt " I abernaeles," " Spiritual Ranters,'' &c. I think) from the whole tenor of his argu ments and assertions, I shall be fully justified if I rank him among the followers of SOCINUS.—If Mr. IiELLM‘IY . S book he deserving of support, the patrouoge which it received, ere it saw the light', will not be withdrawn upon its birth.—lf, on the contrary, it should appear to have a tendency hostile to the faith which we profess, a faith built upon the Gospel, and sanctioned by the wiatiom of at let the Guardains of that faith look well to their charge. Jan. t, 1819. 1 am, Sir, Your most obedient Servnnt, SCRU'J'ATOR.• * We must repeat that this Correwondent is not the person who writes, under the same signature, on The Insolvent Debtors' Act. THEATRICAL REGISTER. Per Last A'ight. TintATRE noYAT., DRURY-LANE.—(6O time), Flodden Field: Principal Characters by Mr. H. Nemble and Mrs. W. West. After which (Ist time), The Silver Arrow. THEATRE ROYAL, CoYENT-GARDEN.—The Twelfth Night: Sir Andrew Aguechvek, Mr. W. Farren ; Viola, Miss Brunton. After which (10th time), Harlequin Munchausen. TO CORTIE•PON DENTS. EtcLtsis ANCILICANCE PR 3BYTEN,To-morrorr. PRICE OF STOCKS nos DAY AT TIVE.I.Yr o'cLocK. Bank Stock 267} 5 per Cent. Navy Ann. 10541 3 pet Cent. Red. 78i4k Bank 1.. Ann....... 20 1-16th 3 per Cent. Cons. 7744 India Bonds .955. 935. pl. 3} per (*cot Erni E,xeli. Bills, 2d... 18s. 20s. pr. 4 per Cents. ....9.54 1 11 Cons. for Account......79ia ARRlvaio-1 Dohlin , t France, 1 Malta. DUE-2 Waterford, 3 Sweden, S Haniburgh. 111tH WATF.R AT LONDON BRIDGE TOMORROW. Morning, 34 minutes alter 11. Evening, 57 minutes after 11. THE SUN. lOLEM (ls DICERE ITALSUM AUDF:AT LONDON, THURSDAY, JANUARY 7, 1819. We received this morning the Paris Papers of Monday last. The following are Extracts " PARIS, JAN. 4 —The King received yester day Deputations from the different Courts, and the Tribunal of Commerce of Paris, who paid their respects on the occasion of the New Year. The French Academy and the Royal Society of Agriculture also paid their respects. " The Duke of Gloucester dined at the Tbuil leries on Saturday with the King and the Royal " The King received yesterday the Amhasse dors, Ministers, Marshals, and several Peers and Deputies. " IYr learn from Bordeaux the 30th ult, that a Cabinet Courier, who left Madrid the 24th in the morning, and passed through the foimer city in the night of the 27th, has contradicted all the re ports which have been spread by malevolence re specting Spain and her Colonies ; the most per fect harmony prevailed in the capital. A few days previously the tete of the Queen was cele brated in the most solemn manner. No credit is therefore given to the reports which have for some days been in circulation respecting the in ternal state of Spain. "'Tie new Minister of Finance has re-appoint ed M. Jourdan Cashier of the Treasury. " Eight considerable failures have been de clared within these few days at Paris. Marguerite Reinaud, widow of Ferranti, born at Aix (Bunches de Rhone), died on the 27th ult. at Toulouse, aged 117. " CONSTANTINOPLE, Dec. 4.—We expect here, witl► great impatience, tLe arrival of Abdallab, the late Chief of the Weelialii.es• The Seignior has caused to be made a peculiar kind of car to exhibit him and his family to the peo ple on their passing through the streets. The fate reserved for this prisoner may he anticipated. The Sultan has granter! large rewards to the Vice roy of Egypt, his Son, and his brave Army. " VIENNA, DEC. 24.—The Emperor of Russia is said to have promised to return here next Spring. " FRANKFORT, DEC. 27.—The Committee as sembled here, consisting of the Ministers of the four Allied Powers, will only be occupied at pre sent with the final arrangement of the affkeire of Bavaria and Baden. " VIENNA, Disc. 24.—The Emperor of Russia quitted this capital yesterdsy a , four it, the morn• ing, to return to Russia. His Imperial Majesty, Who travels incoviito, will pr oceed by Brunn, Ohnutz, Tesehen, Tanwer, &c. " ItAsTADT, Dgc. 29.—1 t is said, that the Court of Bavarii, not satisfied with the indemnities awarded at Aix-la-Chapelle for the loss of some of its provinces, means to address new reclamations to the High Allied Powers." New York Papers to the 1 lib Dec. arrived tbk morninv. (From The Yew Y0,•,4 Ererilng Past of flu: 7th.) CONGRESS, Dec. 3.—The following Nie•sage was received from the President of the United States "TO TITS !lENATS OF TIT UNITS!) STATES. " 1 transmit to the Senate, Copies of sucl► of the Documents referred to in the Message of the I ith ult. as have been prepared since th,it period : they contain a Copy of the Reports of NTr. ROD NEY and Mr. GHAIIAM, tµ•o of the Commissioners to South America, who returned first from the Mis.lion, and of the Papers connected with those Reports. They also present a Nil v i ew o f the operations of our Troops employed in the Seminole Wat in Flotidi. " It would have been gratifying to me to have communicated with the Message all the Documents referred to in it ; but as two of our Commissioners from South America made their Reports a few days only before the meeting of Congress, awl the third on the day of its meeting, it was impos;ible to transmit, at that time more than one copy of the two Reports first made. The residue of the Documents will be communicated as soon as they are prepared. " Dec. 9, 1618. (Signer)) JAMES MONROE.' (The Papers accompanying the Message, so far as they relate to South America, are tho'e which were previously laid before the other House ; and so far as re.Tects the Seminole War, of Letters between the War Department and Gen. GAINES , awl the War Department and Gen. JacKsoN, and of the Proceedings of the Court Martial for the Trial of ARBUTHNOT 011(1 AMBRESTIE.) The Message and Documents were ordered to lie nn the table. The following Message WAR also received from the President of the United States : " TO THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES. In compliance with a Resolution of the 25th of last month, requesting to be furnished with such information as may be possessed by the Exe ctrive, touching the execution of so much of the first article of the late Treaty of Peace and Amity between his Britannic Majesty and the United States as relates to the Restitution of Slaves, and which has not heretofore been communicated, I lay before the Senate a Report made by the Se cretary of State on the Ist inst. in relation to that subject. "Dec. 2, MB. (Signed) JAMES MONROE." (From Toe PLihttlelphia Daity dolrertiser of INTERCEPTED DISPATCH. " MR. ELLTOI, " BALTIMORE, DEC. 4, 1819. " Si a,-The Castilian Spanish Indianan, of about 800 tons, bound fur Lima to Cadiz, has lately been captured by a Buenos Ayrean brig of War, off Cape St. Mary's ; her cargo is said to consist of cocoa, bark, copper, and a large quan tity of specie. There were found on hoard many Private and Government Letters, which shew the Country to be in R very alarming state. The following are translated extracts from one of the private letters, dated Lima, May 29, which will, no doubt, be interesting to you, and which you are at liberty to publish if you think proper. " Your obedient Servant, " J. M." TRANSLATION. The Grand Junta assembled Oil the 20th inst. by order of his Excellency the Viceroy, lu.s lecommended to matte every possible exertion to forward troops to Caleagnario, with a view to engage the attention of the Insurgent Army in Chili, and prevent their attempting to invade this Isingdom dariag the present year, and until v e are reinforced from Spain.— But although this may have such an effect, we arc all much alarmed at the present state of things, for the whole regular forces of Lima do not exceed 3000 men, and they speak of embarking no less tha❑ 2000, which will leave us rery much exposed. To effect this remission of men, money, and warlike stores for their use, the Junta has also recommended a force? loan flaw t'ie iiiiiiiLl!ants of all classeA to ?e rint,ritit of ),000,000 of dollars to be raised next month, which IVIS caused almost an universal disgust. I say but little on the subject, but yesterday, as you will find, cinharlied 20,000 dollars more in the Castilian, and intend to realise the re mainder of iry property and go to Europe as soon as it can possibly be done. We have till lately had a secure way to remit dollars by Panama, but the Insurgent vessels from Chili now swarm io those seas, and capture many of our coasting vessels. The Castilian is the best opportunity, and will probably go safes as she carries 20 guns, is well manned, and sails remarkably well. Every one appears to have confidence in this vessel, and as no man of war is soon going, I presume she will carry o ver 800,000 dollars in specie. The crews of the Insurgents' pri vateers, which infest these seas, are said to consist princi- - pally of English and North Americans ; we know nothing certain, however, as nis one has as yet been captured by our eruizers, to their shame be it said. " The old Curate of Arequipa, who has been constantly in irons, and confined in his dungeon, ever since you left here, gees in the Castilian. His revolutionary principles are not doubted by his best friends, the proofs are so clear, and the Court at home have little more to du in this case than to execute the sentence of the law. Many others are as guilty as h e IS, but if the Government were to arrest all the suspected, they would hardly ito,,w when and whereto stop. Osorio's popularity has declined much, but he will continue in command at Talcaguerio till some one arrives from Spain to take his place. No one here, however, has any bflief in out ability to reconquer Chili—to beep the war there for a while is all we can do." (From The National Intelligence). of December 5.) LATEST FROM CARACCAS.—A Caraccas Gazeitt of,the 6th of last month !►ns been received i❑ this City, which contains an official diyh;►tcl► frond the Governor of Coma n 3, Don THO MAS pa CEIIES to General Monnt.o, dated Nov. I. fia 6tAtes, that having intercepted the enemy's cur.- IL:pondenca, he became apprised of his plan u , attack him by sea and land; that he immediately took the necessary measures to defeat it by con centrating his forces at Caraccas, the place that MIS fil St to he attacked ; that this was executea witlr such celerity, that the Revolutionists ‘vet . not informed of it, who commenced the attack on the 3ist of October, with 1500 men, c orn-- minded by MoßtNo, MouTr.s, and CEDING ; thac they were soon routed, and that on the roa st only by which they fled, they counted 100 meth killed, and 300 muskets. The accounts added, that the Royal troops continued in pursuit of the enemy, with directions to follow him as far as Cumanacoa. M ITARIrRIALS. By the conclusion of the trials of AgsuTnNoT and AM8R157113, it appears, that in the cause a the latter the Court decided that lie should U shot, but afterl‘nrds considered and revoked the decision, and ordered that he should receive strives on his bare ha, k, and be confined, with a brill and chain, to bard labour for 12 calendar rionthr. General JAcKsos censured the second, and ap proved of the first, and ordered both prisoners to be executed Without delay. (From The New York Eveniiig Post of MC. The trial of CollollodOre TAYLOR, on the charge of piracy, terminated by his acquittal by the Jury. A letter on the subject Says, the verdict of the Jury was received with acclamations, more ho nourable to the feelings of u large audience, thaa, becoming a Court of Justice. Mr. GALLOWAY, who was in En,:land, and listened to the speeches of BultKe and CHATHAM, in the time of the Attic.. rican Revolution, declared that he had never bear' any thing comparable to that of Mr. IttrutY, support of the contested validity of TAYLoit'i commission. Tug GALE AT PHILADBLPFIIA.—The damag e sustained among the shipping, at the wharfs, tor l in the harbour, presented a spectacle seldom wit' nessed in the port of Philadelphia. Many woo driven from their moorings, and ran on shore oti the island opposite the city. In the city and vi cinity considerable damage was done, by blowing, down trees, fences, &c. So severe a g.tle has n oc been experienced here these 20 years. Extract of a Letter from RicllA ALLEN, Esq., Britiiia C o nsul-General and Agent to Lloyd's, at , Coruaila, datedi Dec. 19, 1513. " By advice from Vigo, of the 17th inst., art Insurgent corvette, counnalli,d by the Wel l ' known Almeida, bad been cruizing off Eh° harbour for four days, and captured and stink se" veral coasting vessels. On the . lsth, sbe took . 5 1) 311100 schoouvr, from. Corunna to Havant - tab , and armed her ‘vith four guns, and she is noVt cruiziiig will) her." A King's Messenger, and also an Anstriaa 'Messenger, arrived this morning with dispatcho from Vienna. There is be a Council held by his Royal 'Egli" !less the PatNes REGENT, at three O'clock this e ihry, at Carlton House, to receive the REcoaDsls Report. The unexpected return of the PBINCE REGIINT to town has induced the Piiper which first started the groundless t umourl of intended changes in Ad' ministration, to specnlate on the motives of that re' turnout!, in spite of repeated contradictions, it 015 day ventures to renew its intimations " of project cl) oge , Acth , It wou oth erw the I lzed r 4141,1 3 Nost c d°41 ,1 all L i cleoo nI Y, tl bil l I (l one for t htt iot ci rci ' l 4l I fhb,: i D r the tl, N