The Sun. — London, England, 1816-03-26 00:00:00

1 • • 41101141 , iftak , .aliP . ;_tike armtwiliguys ,ratcre ht.fra. ti t the liouse at toresent,, he tierce ed in the strungtist Illattner it" that they were Vogt:raid ,n.eie.tv to prevent any farther re' !) As JO the opera. ot these arrangements on the fitianciaNitua 'liou-of tlietontrv, the .1.-1011;e would have the ift• oiler Sqiiirittunhy of discussing it. What he stat c e:ou subject reducti o ns was, that au account of the reductions made in *le public - tit/ices tvould be laid before the Htittse torju...g the 4iter%emt.Sgssi.:u. , this account ttld not 'be - made so satisfactory as was to 'be wished, because . it would 0111 Y .come "P to . 011 " th 'iliOtiary last ,-which• was the latest date whichAltis accatint was by the Act required to le made tip. Since Jilllliitiy great reductions bad %e'en made', and against the mouth ut July they \ triiplol be matte to a much greater extent. In an ittOmit which he proposed at a: tuturc time to ,lay before the House there woolol be o statement hot only of the redectioos .which had beeu made, but also of those which were intended. At Soon ',as those coMplicated ;111 (11,,borions ineestigatiOns Ittoafigaryter %lie to:tail:lg such tot account were cont.' plet.esl, he eltarged himself with the thity. Of moving that this document should be laid before, the, House. Ile' challenged froth the other side of the, lititii. , evtl•yr4...trinisition for reductiott. (Hear, bear,. hear!) But he deprecated any such state-` merit as thatalte comotry. WAS.ao reduced as to be unable to make odt i quale arrotogeottents for its in terests and safety. -All that he wished was, that the liotoc toned go into the examination of the subject lvith these two great principles preising tin their intones. Ist, That the greatest itolsible . rt.tinction:s should he made. (Loud shouts of hear, , lteati!)---2 , 1, That the great interests of the 'tallith shook, not be ptit•itt risk by mistakeu and' ploonty*:views of our situation. Referriog to w i tat. b ai l b een sa id a t an early period of the debate on the subject of smuggling, he maintained that • ettperieoce . proved, that by making More effectual arrangentOnts for the prevention of this practice, the reveling would he very niaterinfly increased. In conclusion, he would exhort the . Ilouse never to l'o'se -Sight Of the two great principles which he . bad , mentioned —go pulite economy in every pos• Bible way, nod not to be deluded by any state ntent that the country was so to oken • down as to be ineap4ble of. providing for its own safety:— , . (Hear, hear, hear !I • .Alt-. TotaNitY ckt•ttiett .that Gentittudli' on Lis , 'side of the Clouse took a gloomy view of the si tuation of the coontry. All' they wanted wiro, tit* ittery t ethics' on' should be•intoe, and they vitt that the situation of the rol l aty re. Ttsilat. ecutuntly. Jile would' be gh,,; ( i- to know howtlong the ,Noble Lord bad-het:xi in his eeono- Inked lit 1: lid, beheuedt. that Mouse owed the change in the Noble Lord al..nost entirely , to the Ilottoutahhe Aletti'leer for' ,Beffhlk (Mr, (L ., uch), who with a land'aceti artune which, it it had" cattle ,frmitt teat other side -of , the Rouse, the Noble L;isrcl. at oittld liaVe called clamour,' halt told Nittl,,tei.e.), that nnlcis! they. adopted measures of at- ti!Witsly they would not have his ..support . It .1a front that time . .theNoble. Lortlbad thiS iii, "Oleg lie foulitiecrotiony and °thee - were two.t Wogs 'which could no longer be separated.. 'When to .11.slublehn-bolivirleltl as lihnsttlf haul attempted. to 4tersuade tfie Nithre.t i orti.l 9 take naCk the Army, 'N g oin i areis• and ' frame thetn , on a more redneed, stale, he . seas told very ; positively that,they would' sips he sent, lint, after ell,glte.y..hati been taken. bitch ;, and now came the• Noble. Lord; eltalleug ing propottals' for ecottonty.and retrencittoeitt front al:lay side,.and promising-to bring,hack *titivates tai tired House. which would delight - tisete very heaeis„ In, ,about. half , an•hour. the. House would , Anvil/. to cotisitler. the , Navy Estimates, mutate!) he , wooldeltOiv , thens the Noble-Lord's economy. These live estimates whicit• bad: not been sent in, 'the ,very ,first item litt«would skew, Ilsost in t he &shut - semen' s front the Treasury. there , bad • been an increase , . of 10,0001.. Economy, Point by point, was: what he-askeol of the lloesey eskest.t hem not to- be,so be,otted• antl , golled tsit , to telte.the. flourishes. and recantations of the . Notsle bunt, bat to .watch ittost giarrowly—togl•s- Charge their duty.to theirconstittiouts as they had' alteady. done, and by , doing.whielr, tiro y irad ob 'gained a stronger-hold , upon the grffectioos of the people; thaniterltapp any preceding Parliament. • " SMITH spoke in favour of the strictest CCO4 numb , and noticed the several symptoms of great sustioual distress. -Mr, THOSPsott wished , to. know., .whether- he , VMS right in miderstandiug the Chancellor of•the Exchequer, to have guild, ,that the hitt:Pest of -nor iaiv loan: %imago beitletrayed by sorne.modifieat knit '0f -existing taxes , , that is to say, by , some additiors , to,theAutyon.impurtutions. He was not aware , Pet ti,entereatit ile iuterestwoutdlastveunyobjection toisuch , an arraneementialtilottgli they we, e at pre. sent.,suffering .the most severe distress; perhaps as - severe in proportion-Qs glie.AgriculttiraVluterest:• At, all events he hopedhe understood rightly, that the ,11 ( ight Hon. Gentlemen did not mean to touch thst. Sinking Fond. IVhaterter , difference of api hiote there might be on.otliee subjects, arty must tilestirce,, that to' have. Made any encroachment '/Ots,; this Fund:, especially :at such Lt-time, would L»yeptoducedghe worst eifects.r.wonla losers dug Pf*ted-tlee resent, distresa by injuring the public' crCylit.. ;Ile' hoped,Parlitinient would continne its exertions in the way ad retrenching the pubic -ex , - IMO:tares The , CHANCELLOR, of the, EXtITEQUICR re pe.alcil,that.he thought it most important net to enCrOaCh , tipon Sinking.; Fund this . year ; -and' therefore he Meant to defray the charges of , ' the loan,-by modifying some existing duties. Mr.,GIt4INPUIL. wished to know if, it was. in. teutled. to. remit the .ditty On the stock of malt on Iliqtl tit the time the Act:eXpistd- • - 1 1 he CilloccLi.oit of the Exciterruea saitl be 'tguilell to init'UtlOCe a Bill for the repayment of the duties on the stock of. malt which individuals' 111 Vglit haye ou hand at the tittle of the expiring o f the ittx on . .the otli of July. Colonel Mon hoped that some niodification adult) be made in the tax oti hisuses, as it affect td little fat mers cif 11101. a year orient. ' 14r * P. Ainorta expressed sotrriie that the el : 8 40140f thg Exchequer. had n ut toiw brought I .l" ward jai tsneral state:lll6a of the Supplies; 11" Wni4 -an d Means fur tilt year. lie thuuirift 11:e itott.fe enht trot to tticetre oY 'lTstrzt , t(l l 4ny such rartial i statement till they had, the wtiole ' , lPlart, as the - Only view with Which. Et could hitve been.made, must be toget.ft substitine for the In. yotiut Tax., . Mr. K.. FINLAY thought that the only practical way of atiordii,g relief to the country was by a diminution of the public expenditure, The (ANSE . 1011 was then put, and the first Reso lution carried without opposition. . The second lfesolution was then moVed, : " k tliat it iS the opinion of the Conintitte&, that the War Ditties ot. Elicise, which by the Act of last, Ses sou would expiry iu Jilly, 1816,.should.be farther continued for a time to be limited, excepting the War Duty on Malt." This Resolution was also carried without op position. The Report of the Committee was ordered to be received to-m,orrow. NAVY ESTIMATIS. The Order of the Day for the ComMittee of Supply having been read ; On the questiOn that these 'Estimates should'be ref erred . to this Com mittee, Mr. TIERNEY said he wished to call the at tention of the house to the subject. He would now - show them what the Noble Lord and his aollesgues meant •by ecoutonty. Bat in the first . place be begged 'the Hoitse to hear in mind, that the present discussion had ..othing to do. with the naval service Its employed for the defence of the country ; it was merely it q u estion its to the civil cepart uncut of the nary. He would now compare the present Esthwates with ;hose of last year, and if he Slimed to the Houk 'die ex penses in the Best yaar of war had been teas than those intended for the first year of peace, it Would surely be agreed that' it was Cote for emery Mem her•of the lionse to look about hint. The first branch of the Estimates was the Admiralty. For the present year the,, expenses of this departnteitt were estimated at 61,2231. From this, however, there was to be a deduction of 13001; in ;tilaries, being the result of a discussion a tew nights ugo. The amount - Ot the sintilar item in the esti mates of last year was /1,756. ; so that prima fated, there was in the present year a saving of" 923,0001. But the HOuse must look at the items. Under the head of 'Stationery tOr the Hvdrogra •Phttr tor the present' year, there Was 20001. ; last yediti it bait been 50001. Here was, then, a savin , r at 30001. in the present year ; and he woul d take this - as . it criterion or the prbportionhlesav -441 ought to be 'tnatle'under Cie" other 'heads. 'the disbursements to . oin:tie's amounted 1 - this ye:Jr to only 10,0001. and `in 'lBl4 to 14,0001. That. wits an apparent' saving; but 'it• the re daction- occasioned in . the narnral course tit that branch by : a state of peace %vas taken into con sideration; it vrould lie seen that the :real sar.„ ing did nett' exceed 9231. He should no* com peoe the expeaditine of the Admiralty • ()dice in 1804, the first yfar of the war, with that of. 181'6-, the first 'year . of pettee. Le 1804 it con sisted 'of .-13.,9001; and in 1810 Of 60,0001. ;-• so that the difference between *war and Feace \va's loss to the country, during The latter, of 17,0001. The Navy' , Offiee cost, in 1.844; 81',1091., to 181 a; 1,1691. ; so that there was All'excesti in that De-.. partment in time of peace.of 30001. If the amount of 1804 were taken, tie differente would he far greater ; for itt that, year-the expenditure did not exceed 53,000 F. Such was the renal orthe sores ol.an ceommical Adminiitration ! The ex penditure of. the Navy Pay Office was in 1814, 44,9001. It wasrnow charged at 43,81141.. There ap 'peered therefore to be a gain of L,0361: and adding the savtogno.the postage of letters of 3,0001. but if the proper deductions .wcre made in consequence of the- decrease of business; independeot of • any, intentional reduction, instead - - of veering - , there wottltlappear a Fllling.otrolahoist 1,9001. The. expenditure of the Victualling.office in 1814 was 49,6231.• It, was now rated at 49,1951. leaving a small balance of 9281. in favour of ectutonly , to this were added the saving on•postage and pa-. risk rates, the-xotal would swell to 4;4831 . . but rms deductiug the involuntary reductions' made by the change of ci,renniptances, and causes not under the Cunt rout oldie IsTivy'Board; it would appear that' 'menet-of.* saving; that ilepam rtent cusrtnmore`itt theiitst year of' peace, by 4,0231, than in time. of war. The whOle expenditure of- those de partments. stood thus :—its ' 1804' it amounted to• 106,0001. 18i4I to 230,0001; and' in 1816 to,, 238`40001..; .so that the•. first result of' this blessed peace ,was air increase of 80001. in this branch of the public expenditure. The Charge for the benne. yards- was in 1814; 220,0001•.; in.481G. ; 229,0001, ; that, here; there was an other increase of 9,0001. The expenditure of the foreign in 180:I; 7,4691. ; 1 - 81 . 4, 5110001. and , in'l646; ; 57;00a (onio n - miother increase of 4,0001.; or it, compared with' the. amount in, 1804, of 50,0001. This, however, Prose from the augmentation of our foreign pos . tieOloosi bin it sheaved that their chief effect wait to: produce a • considerable .outgoing from • the , country, The comparative view of the grand total of all the heads which he had recited was this to•-• In lati4 • .L.i6a,937 itt 1514 - • . 514,000 ... . .... 53C0U1) }'arming, in finis of peace, an increase of 4,0001. The cocci , parative rsptnditore . of thoiditretent f A totk-yarilywas this 1— rail DEPTVOItp. . „ . . In 1804 L.11,870 In 1814 In 1818 . .. 47,432 wOoLivltil. In 18134 In 1314 31,000 In lett/ 38;000 ;'oit Cliktbl4li.• i in 1664 35;006 in lble 31,000 Fol 'siltrn fittSg. In 1804 In 181 , 1 4,000 In 1815. iroft rc)atsmotivi. In 1811,1 - -- - , - ~ . . L.lq,on In 1014i4 . o• . , • In 181 d ... 410,0qa .:r Fait vi,virdotrilt: ' • • . In 184,14 . , LAS,ssO , In 181.4 4 45,4V0 IO ISlti.. . . , .• . The Actoal.cxcess nil tiro lloMe..:ktylls wai , 8,4231.' ii•liicli %you'd require a world of explaildtions.— On Inicign yards tlicie would opi , cot at first bight t6 , -.l. f e n taOn i g I .VGOI, but or: defloe , e . g . .,tlre difre; . ence,of hit:hie:l . sta expethesi tthe'r2airi.:Vving •watild found not t to ,exeeed 34131. Such •was the result tit tho`ae professions Of economy!. a sav ing misfit:. departMent 0111231. ainh oii :neither of 3401. making oil thesvitole, 1,2631.! If that -was deducted ft otn theencess..on the other branches, which amounted to upwittili of 21,0001. there wool(' still remain upon the whole an excess of 20,0001. in peace more than in war. ; He would ask!he ilottse, iu .the face of the conntrY, ,AVlretiter they would entertaio estimates which weee t,t T prodeee• in .peace no saving, but sin increase of 20,0001. These statements were not to be &see Away by arguments. They were to be met figure by figure, and it would teke, one of. the ' , lol 4 de Lord's longest speeches to invalidatetheir autho rity. It uppenred tram them that the country Would have saved by continuing the war,. 20,0001.,,end as there• would have been, no oceasion• for illu minations, at least 100,000. He was at pre sent doubtful what course 'to .pursue. When. it had been proposed some time since,' to refer the Army Estimates to the Prince Regent; an 'Hon, Friend of his had represented that course as un constitutional and useless, because they would be sent back iu the very same state they had been proeosetl. He did not think that course would be unconstitittiopid, and the House were now prac cooscieus • that reductions would be made. If the Arttiy Estimates hail been sentbeek to , the Prince Regent by a vote of that Idolise, 'he' did not think' they would have been' re lented a SeColld time in their original state. The Noble Lord would have been us much pleased to reduce them as the Chancellor of the Exchequer to go can curtailed Ways Hod. Meatic It was very well to say, we- must have the Property Tax, the interests of the country require it. It you withhold it, the administration of the land .cannot be carried ; we insist an the measure, and will stand or fall by it. But when it • was denied, it Wet found very convenient to do with out it. It the 111,000 men asked b y Noble Lord had been rehisol, he would hare said it wits very hard; but rather thorn trowel with his goon 'friends, he would have done with a less !norther. 'lt the House therefore did not now interfere, it 'would he its MVO fault, and not that of Minis ters, if such Estimates were paised. 'ft they. were sent •:)ack to the. Prince • Regent, he was -convinced 11Mistem would come down 'with others as different' ' from the' present as dal kness. Ile •comphined that ell i nc rease of salaries had:taken. !thee within the' I l v s t three or•four months. *Ministers. hail put off as mita al it Wilt in their power the assembling of Parliament, tool now they said, that it' wits very hard that iirrangrments which were "contpitted should be discussed. He was' disposed to nega tive the present proposition with a %lett' to 'move an Address to the Prince . Regent, I.oll'olllog him to revise the Estinettes and to . give the countspoine advantage from a state of peace. If they were, re- . • ferrtfit to aCommittee, it would he impossible' even forull those - who- wished .for the saute thing, to agree on the exact miming of every item .. .* f.-:lane 'wrath! be' for thretiClerk4, , others,tor four, in Atl finite,. and yet all would have the attainment of mcotionty in view. He wished that tlie,lionse, on the contrary, if. it saw,. as it must - do in' the p r esent bistance, that contempt of economy forni ed the' Cheracter of the estimates proposed by his. Maieety's Ministers, without rising any harsh expression towinslo them; shoulthadvise theui tp take them bark, and to re-consider them, and pio mise, whenthey should be returned, rerjsed, and amended, to give them the fullest dttcution. In the Committee it , would be ithpossible to sheee any question.so, as toenable the hest disposed to agree on exactly tlivaatire point. He only meantlOsiligest this as, the most effective mode' Whialt . the !praise could adopt. Let uttyGeotlerrints provriseanother, and he would be the. first to accede CO it. There now was a'' clear and distinct Maibrity of. the House, who had proved thetnielvesitincerein their with to obtain and enforeeeconomy. Let them cotesistat the statemente Math • be , bad Mode. If he hatVetnmitted , any mistake; hatshoulul take the whole blame upon himself ; but be had really been at notch palnt'io comprise and arrange the information . which liehed now 50nit - tett to the Hoose;.and which toots entirely founded On o docutnents. Let the frietiik to economy then chalk out some mode-by' which the Civil VW a bliehment ..of the' Navy• should' not exceed by 20,000 k. in. peace the expenditure of war, Sir Geonot WARRENDER felt that no man,cOuld rise under greeteer disadvantages than, he did, to follow the Right •Horn. Gentleman whose inge nuity at all times was so well kriown,:;,and duly appreciated. • He thought, however, that it was not quite fair in hiot.to take the' present li•stinatea as peace Estimates'. They *.re•not, and email not yet he Estimates of that Aleseriptiott $ and even in the course of the nuvrent year nasty con siderable reductions might be effeeto, ‘ vhich it tlut practicable this early period tditatit, He conten n ded, 'that during' the first' year whieh followed rite conclusion of it tear, the', ex,..• ,penditure of the ordioery.service MUSE, be , , 11. C., *wily greater thint during the war A ; greater number• of . clerks mkt then b&' Ployed in the Dock-yards, to receive ithcltores of • ships returniug from foreign stations.., The, fairest way of judging at the'propriety pf iheine sent Estimates, would 'be . com Pare t hei r amount with that 'of the •expeuditoire of Under the first head, or politic departments, that expenditure itnottuted i ts time year to 193,0001., in eke present, to 169,0001 . ., - so: that theee'svAs' a reductionn-of 400614 'which would have •been greater had it not been for the meathire adopted respecting the salaries of 1114 Clerks, I n th e Home . yardsf . it was impossiblethat there sta n ds!' be at • yet ail , consitlithible -reduction,. There' were only two ; tootles to reduce the expendi• titre in' that department. The first was by dis charging. 'a *feet nniaber of workmen, and the 6E004 'by tedueing„the working 'Hie' lest hill been adopted iii preference to losing the seriiees•of melt s o ' valuable on 'aeConitt abilities.'.. 1n dill Foreign Yartli; it -bad been T foutol impractieehle • to Atlcipt any int - ensure ,by trhucli redactions tbttld bar operated,so as tai be subinitteit With the present Estimates to the indgmeot of the Noose: HvviiitittemilkitteatiOn saute of those that were in contemplation. In the East Indies, initead of Wee naval ettabliditnents, y. otle ,w,ott , rev of Madras and of iintninty %mild tie. dist:otttinited.. 11. the .I:edoclions trhith wn.nlil take plate at (iibraltar, anti, .it It. Mere. pnQslblei at Malik Would, amount tp til)Ottt Antigua, liernnttli,,aud Halifax, such reductions would b 4 made as scontdbe found consistent with the safety tite country; but it Was impossible .as yet to state their amount, fflic slime existed %•if h respect ,to ,the Vit.-:trialling-oftice.. That of Dover, llowever,:.was to be so considerably rip. (bleed its to,,bei aliiiost entirely dune away, ,Ott the Half-pay- there would be, as it was natural to expect, a large ittcreftsei,ti time of peace. In the Clerks, hoWever',. there would; be a rednetion of 6,1001. Among the ontports,t hat of Harwich would be entirely reduced. Upon the wt‘ole, the ntereas'e on the ordinary department would be 1.12;000l. As to the ac.gmentation in the salaries of the clerks, ho could not add any thing to the reasons stated in , the Order in Council, and which h hut hoped would have satisfied the .HOuse, it had been made on the ,principle of increasingthesalal according to the len;.,th of the service, a pritlciple which had been 'fOrtnetly sanctioneti by a Com mittee of , which the Honourable Gentleman 0pp0 . .;- site had been Chairman, The Excess on the Half hay would be 1'7,0001. Under the bead of Super- , animation there . would • also he ea 4tttplentatithA of 5,1)001, mink under the Order lit Council iif 1 . 807, , itt the building and repairing- of XhiPS there iraS a Considerable increase; Rs coMpared • with , the close of the American war. -The 06. pendittire had tlt u heed in one yt.er 1;200,1/001 . . and in the next 1,100;0601. kle e,lloOitt now ivat4 to VOIC Of f,1165,0001. lint it artist tint be tbrgotte4, that the rate of wages; and the price of slttio every kind of materials, had nearly tioilblkd ilnit period. This increase wai also in part stoned by the adoption of a new Systern,, ttiliich would ultimately iiive millions to Resort had hitherto heetr had to Merchant for the building of ships ; Aditiet the'dos'e of rtitS" American war, no less thin` iwenty-iight • 14 . 41: of the line and fifty-four tripleti bad heed bOlt in Such yards.' 'Torre now *is, On the contriiiy, only one small sixth rate constructing in that dm ! . tier. The transfer of the building from merchant yards had oceasioned the necessity of nets 'docks' ? and an expense thongli whin; hfBL inetitrek t-ould.lead to mighty' 1,4-u'resaV.. lugs. lie felt the inailetinacy ments, and tairly owned, that the' course at..opted, by zhe ltight lluitourable fientleman had tliroWti' hutt into a eonsiderablo dtgrve of efointirotikcitt Ile then alluded to the impoit OCe of the work;: carrying on at She mess' 110 d i ' leribtOlit, unit time necessity of sture4liouse's, 'whi'ch greater in peace dont in war. 1-le stutd., 'O l 4 the whole rOnonnt of the naval service,. int-hut:- log. the vote of the seamen, which iloutisted ill itself of nearly 3 thillidos',, would be 7,147,001, and with the Victtralling-office and ForeliFti 04.risons, , 9076,0001.' 1-fe 'assured the House' Thai attentnin teas paid.to•hring down tiiiilClo( woes •es' low kola la close ait po4siblC to 'did, 'Peace Establishment'. • There might' tip intmy things %%166 mi g ht to he . ratrectl, and those •te-, doctions . tvete iu cooteiniik ion. lie etAcitiile:t• - by'thanking the tititiSe for the atteution had been F lit to' hi s enninseil statedieuts, he hoped ,to esphin - iii c;emer monomer in the Cononittee. • - . (iftttnON lininted mute arilci:s in which ton - skier:l6le slivingi might' bc'ettc ctc(l . . 'lil t; were thelih . eivui, %Viten, colleine,l, formed ta worthy the notice ut rarlialtent. Itc Complained that the y of ti l e Cl t ier Clerk had been raked to 10001. whereas the t' a naini 3 ,-, sitiners' hack vec'uttl,ltiviltied that it stintlid he only 8001. and also that , he stiOnitl. have 15.01. a•ye,ar as Receiver of the Pees, lie then look ';'t view of other tiirting. ant:ale:nations_ of ,ti:daties. 'cite, elitirge fur Parish Dot icy was 4060 . 1, whilst in . 1813 it had been on 104001.; that on Linv- s uits w its 19,0001,, and hi ItiO2only 70001.,T1ts charge for the of ut Paymaster, ot_the lturt - 1 Marines was' 23'10V. might i bt,t spin t:d , as ilia duties of that office might hq, nirgitid with ,grtAter convenience into tho:le of the Paymaster of the •Navy. hoped the Watt of comrrO es u.f 04 Navy, :Which was . tniw vacant, woulti not tie filled. up, comptat n o, O lat three SiliTysyors,.Jtati been ,appointed instead of two, Whielt that number ni time of ,war ; that a liegimrar of114)- lie Scent itics nhutild lately have ,I?,een ere:twit s anti plat, three drauglitsotett stkotiiii i. , have beets giro', to the Sptveyots of.. 10i01,, a year, whilst ting ititl , ttot 'footerty• exeved 7301., • After pointing .ont a kev,,eral, cnher, instancesot what he ,cintsidet;ati,9inteee“itty and Milo emieltnied bye litter 11114 . )11 the Itnnie that . tlitir.tortner• foto wiitail be of little etrest unless Sir Jotztyn .Vonta olvatin,.• that if • '6411 beeli the year 184 q iiisttool of ISt 6; Ite'vlanfitjtai'e lowed the I,loth . tiehtieniatt in ithitui;-cfiery word. But his obsef:Vations did not - apply to a tiiuc which - was • but an introduction to a period of peace, it was Impossible to cut doWit the Etti'- mates so low, as in 1802 anti 'lBO4, alit, he kitty that when the. war had 'begun in iitektatter ycAr, lunch' inconiVnienee hail iesultea from the esta« hlislinteta having • been cut - (town. Si) !Ow. lie then defended , the arrangetututs wliielt 'lord' al ready beta made on a staltrot tetlactitin etintiit'ent tiitit the intereitilif-tite cotintrl. lice iirged tli importance r of' tite.NavaiStations ott Lake tiotariti anti at Bermuda. ire diti tan approve of that' ex ceedingiove of retie:whitt l e:lu stretch cotta,) only ha .called 1.1 pinchbeck love of economy, lie supported the, increase in the salaries atilt Clerks. The Chief 'Clerk, tied' leech 30 yeBrs. in hiS otileei tutu aa4 a.motit told honOttrable thinite-sekeaut. 11h thought that mrsasiiig rvonitt tteertie froni uniting the offices of ladyttiasters of: arlues And ot . t. tie Navy., lie exphinted, that vittOr had been appointed iu toe room of an Itit';iieetur. (ieneral of Nasal IVorks, lie defended the pointitient tit a Registrar of the Nav7, tvitliout: whom the politic would be pilfered anti bellet'ilrld till ovc (latighter.)-1-aiish Flat es Itallitieriatsell its usual with t lb& Poor'sitatcs round great nr‘e'naii:; it e maintained . t hat 'lt w n41)114106 • sii . ooYvtainent intended to do every thiug in our own iirictniht,' and to keep 'Ail notetr as possible• out Id the MeV:- citttltt? yattlj anti he arpeitlen to all men in Billet, or who wished to he in utile°, whether it WAS pOsot