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PARLI A MENT. MUSE OF LORDS, JANUARY 26. 'The LORD CHANCELLOR took the Woolsack *bout half-past three ' o'clock.—The oaths were administered to Lord Dundas.--The House ad -journed at tour and resumed at five CARE ANDTMSTODY OF THE KING'S PERSON. The Earl of LIVERPOOL moved the Order of the may for the second reading of the Bill for testing the Care and 'Custody of tire King's Person in his Royal Highness the Duke of York. Lord Hot,Latin said, he did not rise to make any objection to vesting the Care and Custody of the King's Person in the Duke of York, the Le .gislature having on a former occasion derermined, whether wisely or not was not now the question, that the Care and Custody of the King's Sacred Person should be separated from the administration of the Executive Government ; and the late me lancholy event having rendered it necessary to maite a provision for vesting the Care aed Cos untly of the King's Person in someone, he thought three conhi be no possible objection to its being vested in the Duke of Yolk. He thought, how ever, that coin e explanation was regn'si , e ni-mg a part of .the Bill, in order not only to render their proceedings consistent, but to render the Bill intelligible even to themselves. A great ob jection with regard to the former Act for the tare and Custody of the King's person was, that it 'Aided to eteate a kind of Imperium in linperio, by giving the patronage of a larger establishment to the person having the Care and Custody of the King In the present Bill a sitniko cl ause was i”trodnced, giving to his It oyd Irighness the Duke of York the full power of the re:ni/al, no ntioation, and appointtnent Of the persons forming the establishments about the King, with certain exceptions therein meotioned. With the nature or extent of the establishment now to be kept about the King's Person their Lordships were vt holly unacquainted, and in addition to the ob jection in point of principle, as in the former case, of conferring the pittrova„te of such an Es tablishmeut in any o her way titan upon the Ex ecutive Government, there was the objection it the present instance, that of the nature or anioun of the Establishment the House were entirely ig norant. lie therefore trusted that the Noble Earl who had nut odnced this Bill would give some explanetion as to what was intended to be dohe with regard to the Establishment in queition, respecting which not a syllable of information had yet beep,communicated to the House, The Lail of LIVERPOOL said, he bad no hesita- tion in giving the explanation called for by the Noble Earl. In the first place, however, he must 'ontend, that the custos person of the King ought to form the nature of the trust vested in him to have the complete controul of the Establishment, be it large or be it small (with certain limita tions, and subject to s Council), which of course be could not have unless he had the power of re moval, nomioation, and appointment. With re mand to the point more immediately adverted to by the Noble Lord, this Bill could of course have no reference to it, being intended solely.to pro vide for the Care and Custody of the King's Per son. The Establishment would he regulated .by another Bill, which, without making use of any expression derogatory to the privileges of the House, he might say it would be more convenient should originate in the other House. Under these circumstances, it was scarcely decorous in him to allude to its intended provisions, but be • might say, that it was the intention of his Ma jesty's Government to propose a reduction of that Establishment. The objection, therefore, be conceived of the Noble Lord was so far done away, that the House were in possession of all the information that was requisite to legislate 'upon the subject to which the Bill referred. Lord HOLLAND still thought that further ex plana,ion was requisite. The Noble Earl had argued, that be the Establishment more or less, the patronage ought to be vested in the person bay jog the care and custotfy of the King ; but it was not difficult to conceive that there might be persons who, thinking even that a larger Establishment was requisite, might be, notwithstanding, of opi nion that the patronage of that Establishment might, upon general principles, rather to be vest ed in the Executive Government titan in the per son having the care and custody of the King. But with regard to this Bill, the House was call ed upon to vest the patronage of an Establish ment, of the extent of which their Lordships were entirely ignorant, not a particle of information having been communicated upon the subject. The Noble Earl, it was true, had said it was in tended to propose a reduction of the Establish ment ; hot still, before the House acceded to this Bill, they ought to have infmniation in a more detailed shape' as to the intended extent of the ):stablishment, which, without that information, lie found a difficulty in acceding to the recogni tion of, as proposed in the present Bill. The Earl of lAVRISPOOL maintained that it would be impossible for any one to have a proper controul in the care anti custody of the King's person, unless such individual as the custos per sona had the power of the removal, nomination, and,appointinent of the persons forming that Establishment as provided in the Bill. It the power of removal, nomination, and appointment were to be vested in the Executive Government, it would be much looter that the care and custody of the King's Person should - also he vested in it, as the controul of the Establishment, in' whom soever vested, ought to accompany the care of the Icing's Person. As to the extent of the Esta blishment, it was perfectly clear that, under the present Bill, it could not exceed the amount of the present Establishment, and, therefore, so far the objection of the Noble Lord fell to the ground; but when that fact was coupled with the assurance already given, that it was the intention of his Ma jesty's Government to propose a reduction of that Establishment, there surely required no other explanation to induce the passing of the pre sent Bill. The Bill was read a second time, and commit ted tor to-molrow. Adjourned till to-morrow (this dny). t. r For the Proceedi ngs i n th e H ouse of C0171111011: 2 see • the Last Pose] LONDON JOURNALS: FROM THE MORNING PAPERS OF THIS DAY. [Morning Chronicle.] The assurance we lately gave to the Public, that Lord Cochrane had not arrived in any part of the provinces of Venezuela, is borne out by a letter, dated the beginning of December last, from Margarita. It appears that the whole has been a ruse de guerre on the part of Admiral Blinn, connected with an important operation he bad in view, and for this purpose be availed himself of the arrival of another Naval Officer in that quarter. The report had been aided by so many external marks of the fact alluded to being real, that the Spaniards, who, no doubt, have been informed from Ragland that Lord Cochrane was emba:king for South Amelica, bad fully be lie►ed it, and were in the utmost state of dismay. This circumstance will convey a very good idea of the sensation that will be excited amongst the Royalists, when they learn the real arrival of Lord Cochrane on the shores of the Pacific, where he must have arrived about the middle of November, when he would immediately assume the command of a fleet, composed of at least 13 vessels of war. [Morning Post ] THP FOUR PRINCESSES.—The only one of these iliqqviotis Ladies who visit this country for the purpose of lying-in, is the Duchess of Cla rence. We are dssured, in a high quarter, that her Royal Highness may be shortly expected. GRAND BANCLURT OF THE OPPOSITION.-111 the course of next month, at the Freemasons' Tavern, a sumptuous dinner is to he given, when Mr. Tierney fiat.; the Chair, as Lcader of the Oppo sition. All the Whig Members of both Houses of Parliament will attend.—(/bid.) [Morning Herald.] The vacancy in the Council, appointed to assist in the care of his Majesty's Person, oceasioned by the death of Lord Ellenborongb, will be sup plied by the present Lord Chief Justice Abbott. PROVINCIAL JOURNALS. We have often bad occasion to animadvert on the folly or the fear of those Protestants who un derstand so little of the true character of POPERY as to sign Petitions in favour of Popish ambition to share in Legislative Power. It was not to be supposed that the wiser order of Protestants would quietly suffer their own characters to be involved in the discredit of thus attempting to overthrow our Establishment in Church and State, without disclaisoin g all participation in so ruinous a measure. Accordingly we find such to be the fact, as we gather from The (Dublin) Cor respondent, a Paper that strenuously and ably sup ports the best interests of the United Empire. " A Correspondent has enclosed to us the lowing extract of a letter, received by a Gentle man in this city, from a friend in one of the northern counties. It will form the best com mentary upon what The Dublin Evening Post em phatically styles The Grand Requisition for a Meeting► of Protestants, for the purpose of peti tioning Parliament in favour of the Roman Ca tholics.' Our Correspondent has added sow te marks of his own, the truth of which we under stand to be indisputable : 6 I am truly sorry to learn that attempts are making in Dublin to accomplish a second edition of what will be called a Protestant Petition in favour of the Roman Catholics. We have been iiving in peace and harmony in these ',arts for a con siderable time back; all religious differences were happily at an end, and a good neighbourhood seemed the order of the day. Should these unthinking people, however, persevere in their efforts, I fear our sunshine will not last mire)) longer; for al ready are the Protestants beginning to talk of counter Peti tions—aud thus thedesulating brand of religious animosity will he again lighted up in the laud, just as we were enjoying the hope of its being totally extingil:,hed ; and you mast be aware that a single Parish here wou' ! furnish more signatures against the demands of the Roman Catholics than ail Dublin could produce in their favour. Let the Roman Catholics petition Parliament for themselves, and none can blame them; but between them and the wisdom of Parliament be it—for I see nothing but mischief, not only to the peace of the country, but even to the Roman Catholic cause itself, likely to be the result of this attempt at Protestant interference.'—The above letter comes from a Gentleman of the most liberal principles, and of a dispassionate way of thinking ; indeed; it is under stood, that even in this city a counter Petition is likely to be the consequence of that for which certain persons are assi duously canvassing signatures. It is a notorious fact, that this Requisition, purporting to be that of the Protestant No bility and Gentry, voluntarily coming forward on the occa pion, has been carried, from house to house, by a Roman Catholic, asking for (we will not say extorting) signatures." Among the numerous acts of royal munificence which characterized her lute MazesTv, the follow ing has been related to us by Mr. PENLEY, Ma nager of the Windsor Theatre •—ln the year 1801, while his brother, Mr. IVilliam Peaky, and wife, were performing at Weymouth, her Majesty gave Si splendid lite at Hadipole, and employed Mrs. W, Penley to assist in the decorations. Being much pleased with one of Mr. W. l'enley's chil dren, the Queen took the little boy torter her protection, placed. hint at a school in Sherborne till he attained his seventeenth year, and then gave the youth a Conmtission in the army,' with 300 guineas to fit him out, tel►ich were paid by the late Colonel Di*browe.—{Windsor Exprep lkM THE suN MR. CotToßri-4Vithout inquiring whether or not you accord in the opinions which I am about to express ) I demand your publication of them in a Journal that seems to me eminently devoted to free discussion. They are not transmitted to you hastily ; neither have they been committed to paper without much and serious consideration.— Their subject is of the most delicate kind ; but delicacy is not altvays difficulty ; and if it were, difficulty is not always to be surrendered to deli cacy. The Constitution has wisely prOvided, that upon the demise of the Sovereign, the existing Parliament shall be dissolved, and a new one summoned. But to obviate any possible in convenience of so hasty a dissolution, the new Sovereign is anthoriSed to continue the existing Parliament during six months, if he shall so please. The principle of this_ La vv is toll tided upon real wisdom. The Peers are the hereditary Counsel- tors of the Crown ; their capacity, titer: fore, is not affected by the personal change of the Sove reign ; hut it is right that the People should have the opportunity of electing thos'e Representatives whose opinions toward, or connections with, the new S , vereign May influence their choice. It is not, as some Retormess may suggest, to multiply the occasions of the Elective Franchise, that the Parliameht bears only a concurrent life with the Sovereign who had called it together. Every sentiment of respect, of gratitude, of affection, combines to excite our grief for the sad state of our venerable King. Conld all the glary, all the prosperity of Ills Son's administra tion render us less sorrowful, the REGENT would disdain an hom.uge which mast be either hollow or heartless. By me, at least, such will not be offered. It is one part of our- sorrow, that the good old King has for these ten years past been withdraw.' Iron► his people's personal regards. Providence has interposed a veil, winch no officious band should draw aside. With reverence I say it, that be does not now stand Sin that capacity which hitherto every living Englid) Sovereign has oc cupied ; and, in all human probability, whenso ever his demise shall occur, it will not bring with it those Constitutional effects which hitheno have followed the demise of our Monarchs. In all but in the name, his regal function is exercised by his son ; who is already, in all but in the ►tame, his succesor.- Tl,is I say, r eferring to the pre sent state of the King ; should Providence re store him to the power of exercising that func tion, the principle whereon I argue %vill be en tirely at an end. Supposing, however, his political demise to terminate, and his natural den►i , e only to he con templated, I contend that the constitutional reasons for the dissolution of Parliament will not occur upon the death of George the Third. Because—he was not, the person exercitant Of the regal function, who called that Parliament together. w tha tO:te i v i c er r v ele i c i : (i th: ro O n pi t i t i l i e on p s en o i r oe tl i i n e liament, they bad no reference to the opioions or t n h ie e lfr ir se‘c c iar l e l l o iss i e c ; : i of Representatives the present P.r measures:of the King himsrlf. . . . Because—as that Person will, upon the demise of the Sovereign, _become the King, there eau b e no change contemplated in the soveleign of opi nions or of measures. Because —the personal change of name only, and a technical change of capacity, cannot b e coo- St rued as applicable to the Constitutional motive for dissolving the Parliament upon the next demise of the Crown. Because—no other motive can render such solution necessary. Because —the new Parliament %rill he called to: gether by that Person who called together the Parliament now existing. Finally—because there would be more reason, according to the strictness of the principle, for calling a new Parliament, in the even t o f the King's being restored to his function, than in the event of ttis death._ _ The discussion of this great question must not he construed as an indecent calculation of our So vereign's lite. 1 shall not deign to answer the man who so interprets it, but leave him to his ow►► malignant thoughts. That the Parliarneni, which has now a possible duration of seven yea's, nosy not unreasonably be calculated as of longer dura tion than the lite, however virtuously spent, that has now surpassed its eightieth year, no man will deny s —though no man, in the case of our vene rable Monarch, can like the reflection. I enter upon it very paintully, and very reluctantly pain and reluctance must be sacrificed ►post a question so important as that which is here con sidered. I am ready to meet fair argument to clamour, I will not reply. I contend for the pro priety of a law, enacting, that— " In the event of the death ofGeorge the Third, without re suming his regal function, and of the succession of the Prince Regent to our Crown, the then existing lioliarnent shall be continued, if the new Sovereign shall so please, for the resi due of its legal term, in the saute manner as if George the Third were still living," Nothing less, Sir, than such a Law can g;re the Parliament that independence which the an• diminished calculation of seven years continua ::e was intended to*eenre. 1 led that 1 have ten dered to the Throne and to the Nation, fiord ser vice by opening the discussion. JUST_NIAN. 4- ,* Our Correspondent does not s fem to be aware that this subject has.already !men brow; Ist into Parliamentary discussion ; but is it involves a question of very great importance, in a Consti totional point of view, as well a.s with regard to a dissolution of Parliament, w v .conetive that it ought ro he fairly c?nvassed,;, For this purpose our columns shall be open ; andas we prasurne that JUSTINIAN has nothing in vie.v but the welfare cf the. country, we trust that .ir argument, and no party bias, will attend the nquiry. - THEATRICAL REGISTER' . Performed Last Night. THEATRE rtnym., DRu.y-LAx,...--(soth grut.L's:Alto cius .TUfllgg, b 1 r. beau . • 3 ,• . w • : lat quinia, • fe! which, Th e Sil ver A i row . THEATRE YA CO VEN T-GA RDEII.--Veliice - p r 1.6er0.45' Pierre, Air. Youn,.; ; Belvidera, Miss O'Neill. Afte . Harlequin Mulicliatiseri. TO CORP:ESPONDKNTs. to LoLLAHD, riNcu, and other Favoars, we are 01" e ptstponr till I'o-rriorrow. 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The following fire extrsctf..4, "-PAIIIS, JAN. 23.—Yesterday before wass' t s le Ban de F'errette delivered to the ging' ''fi the private audience, hi s n ew Credentials 1i"1" ,•I Grand Duke of Baden, wLrocontimies the exercise of his functions as Envoy .I,;xtr4": nary and Minister Plenipotentiary from 04aell o r " The Count de Gallatin, Envoy Estranedini' and Minister Plenipotentiary from WorteMhergi: delivered to his Majesty, at a private attdiellce'er Letter of. Notification from the Wog his "1,41 respecting the death of the Queen of W"' telni .: l ll " The King transacted business yest eld4Y the Minister for Foreign Affairs. „ e t, " A Royal Ottlonnance, dated the 6th i ns ' authorizes the inscription at the Ropil.1"91:0, of the pension of 20,000 francs, which, blvo, Ordonnance of the 7th Deeembir hst, his jesty granted, conformable to the law of 1 " , September, 1807, to the Count Corvette, C(111,, sideration of his distinguished services as ter of Finance. „, to " Gei:eral Detrance has been appoin t -1 command of the Ist Military Division ( 116116/ the room of General Despinois. r AC "On 'Wednesday there was a grand the hotel of General Walterstorff, the C D111 „f Ambassador, at which 74• ere present the Dies' Gloucester, the Count Decazes, Minister of di Interior, Marshal Gouvion de Saint Cyr, and veral other persons of distluction, " !'he Duke of Gloucester set Out on 'lo'l for Foutainblearr, with the Prince de TalleY r81" 0 where his Royal Highness will remain for sot' s days. ff A courier set out a vredi since fot wi•h important Dispatches. It has not t" ns f pired whether t y re h te to t h e . 1111 7 4 i ". the Church of F rance , or I th e Corio sii° Bull. p rfri " At a privat c sale a few days since at the statue in :marble, by Canoes, Of Letitia Bunnararte, was purchased for the 13( of Devonshire at the price ot 36,000 frko' c '' fo r Russian Prince had given a coMmission t tr ir,but limited the amount of his biddills 24,000 francs. " Mademoiselle de Lan-Imile Vedel di ed 85 Agen, the 12t1► nit., aged 102. i °l.l " General Sarrazin has appealed in C6'-`%l;ne against the arryt of the Cour Royale , for 10(1'a' lint on his on a charge of Bigamy. " The Duke of Gloni cts t cr , tten d e d the N llei° ceremon y d i Sr. Denis, on Th.ursday. ertr " Lirut.-General Maurin - repinces, at BP° Lient:':Clener,ll Li - grr-Belair, in the v2311 01/(1 ° theDivkion, " The office of Under Secretary o f Stat e 111 ir oe Ministry of Wt. snp[tresiett, M. Alitijrl: wito filled it, is appointed Piesident of the C°6°' 6 . 1 of Reference of War, " Le Consti,tatioret ci'.4nvers announces, (I'l4 . 11. Cauchoil Lemaire ba9 returned to Frtill"• FIVE PER CENTs. Friday. ..GBl. 20 c• np.FultrAT) STOCK.. Of the 97A Match, 181', AO f. 96C, 41'd Sept. 18i;, 781'. 95C. 42(1 March, 1818, f. 95 G. 22d Sept. 1818, an nea r " RP,RyN, JAN. 4.—lt floes not ye t t Se` e r s whether we arc to have a Consiittirion. a t PtOjetS linve been proposed, but they have been adopted. be " 9TI-I.—lt, is saril that the first business t° stthrnitted to the deliberation of the Coonci."4 State, will be a Projet of Constitution, prer iU h e by the Prince de fliirdenber:f, according I . ° Iv : advice of the C ounc il of St a t e . If thic obtain the Royal Sanction, it will be piblisl)ed I %vit to t ' l ' lll • sl 'a .• I 4, 41. , • ti ' th th • gt, s S sst 4p r the .Ah r tt, 4q, ,~~ Ili sc 4t at , ut f ~~'a 4 tti