The Sun. — London, England, 1819-11-17 00:00:00

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We Wish to be upon good terms with all our Compe titors, and shall never make any assaults nron any of them, except in defence of essential na tional interests in Church and State, when they fire brought into danger by base insidious so- Phistry, or open Radical violence.—Let our Public Journals be, what they ought to be, the vehicles of political, moral, and religious truth, and then they will be, as our immortal Bard says, " the abstract, and btief Chronicles, of the time," to which, it well conducted, the Histo rian may resort for intelligence and on which Posterity may rely for the most valuable autho thY. that derived from contemporary obser. !ration. Felt THE SUN. Ma. EDITOR .....Will you allow me to insert this lineation in your viduable Paper, as if may he the • tuear ra of exciting souse able inquiry on the sub ject ?—. " Whether the fears of some good and liberal ti le", on the passing of the 14 Act to relieve certain persons who impungn the doctrines of the Holy Trinity front certain pains and Penalties," were groundless, as appears by the (tefence made by the abominable CARLILB at his Lite trial ?—Yoars, A CONSTANT READER AND ADMIRER. SHIP NEWS. NoRTHORN EXPEDITION.—Accounts are said to l 'ave been at length received of the Expedition, co nsisting, of the neela and Griper, now on a t 'Yage of discovery. It had proceeded as fa r as the 76th degree of latirude, which is we believ e as far as Captain Ross was able lo pent ttate• in Day tile), hail fallen in with an immense mass of ice, which appeared to b e formed upon a solid rock in he Bay : the sea " the northern side of this huge mass pre eine() the singular appearance of a lake pert ect ly It ee from ice. Such of the native inhabitants of t hose legions as tbey met, •did not pear t 0 have ever seen or heard of the former 7 } x Ntlition under 'Captain R os s. I t teeme d to h e le 'Pinion of the present voyagers, that there is 'lV° Pissoge out of Battin'a Bay.—(Hull Packet, t'ember 16.) Attwlcur, Nov. M.—The Eagle revenue cut. . to bas brought into this port .a logger, with 300 14b3 of spirits, some tea and tobacco, with 22 fieti,.ob e of whom was killed and several wound. " the affray. P ORTSMOUTH, Nov la.—Arrived the Stern. , 411 ", MAINLAND, from Quebec; and Hind, for cruize.—Sailed the Owen Glendower for South 81flierics. tP:-YmotrTn, Nov. 15.—Th e V er t umnus , Kill -1.(1, fro nt Li verpoo l, got on s h ore this morn -I'slla tin the sout h- east point o f S t. N icholas llt id, but h as b een got off with v er y little xi 441 age. 111"3GATB, Nov. 16.—Arrived the Charles, uc Hes, from London for Legho rn , w i l l s l oss o f richr) r and cable, and windlass hauls upset. vt? 4 Ritsay, N ov . 11,— Arr i ved the Catharine, Atte ß, from Demerara for London, w i t h l oss trr udder and sails. I"4l4rovrit. Nov. 16 —Sailed the Lee and Dot "llaa with several coasters to the eastward. )I. bit AL. Nov. 16 —Arrived and Sailed for the the John and William, Mackie, front &te at Ayres, in 84 (lays ; Cumberland, Goates, front _ And rews ; and Waterloo, Cole, from Ilavan &nth. l e f ear ne down from the River, the Norfolk, Lee- Margaret, Allan, for Madras; Clyde, `h, -lir h, for Jamaica, and Fortitude, Phelan, for All ut back th e Williarn and Alfred, (or Anti gua ; f °r Jatnaics ; and rercevdl a nd Nautilus for k rell "a• The Norfolk, for M a d ras , an d severa l -r e , are getting under weigh. I.6l:eiter.day, ShOnt 3 O'clock, the FAH of LIVER• I.lVisr 4 TLEREAGH, HMI the CHANCEL- Oh ni A 3 trl lllll , o oe 'EXCHEQUER, had a mee jag will V o l t s : te e f,'3lttmotru, at the Secretary of State ' s •11:)r Ulome Dtpartment. tQt+tr4l nuke of Yost( held a 1111traty . Levee yes• I-i' 83 Commander in Chief, at his Office, in , 1 rse Guards. ~ to t e atette of last ni g ht c on t a i ns a Procb!- I'iii:"4 offerin v ' g a fr ve pardon to any of the per "iphioerited firing at Mr. NADIN, the Man tti,er C onstable (except the ri•son who ac lilti?' fired the sh o t), who shall discover his or glycnoplices. Volt TU SUN: PO JOHN BULL, ESQ. iloNEst JoHN—lt has been said by a Win man of old, that in a multitud e of Counsellors there is wisdom— , -but i am afraid that aftdirs are much Changed since his time. You have ei multitude of Counsellors at present, it is true ; and there may be wisdom amongst them; but I fear the propor. Hon is much less than contemplated by the Royal Proverbialist. It is a great misfortune, also, that a considerable proportion of your little ones, are more disposed to follow those who please their, fancy, nod appeal to their passions ; than the few who wish to appeal to their judgment. Yet your family have a vast fund of good sense, in the main ; the only difficulty is to bring it into circu lation': but to do so, will not be a vain attempt, if you Jotili NT, will further it by your advice and example. As one of your friends, it is my wish to See yam' and yours sit down contented ; but still, not its that state of apathy which would preclude im provement. There is a great differenCe between trying to better one's self by honest industry, and judicious enterprize, and that envious disposition which covets the wealth of others, withoot any proposed exertions, except those of mere physical force and rude domination. 1 would therefore have you hint to such of your family as, are still restless and discontented, that they are defeating their own purposes and diminishing their probable fu ture profits and earnings, when they propose to share that which would be of little value when divided, though its aggregated portions its . effects are most beneficial. Let them look at a paviour in the streets, and see with what facility he drives down the heaviest and largest stones, by means of his heavy iron bound ranimer—but suppose that useful machine split into walki►►g sticks, or inro an emblem of union, such as exhibited in HUNT'S procession, and divided equally amongst an hundred hands, where would he its farce, or what would be its effects ? Besides, when they think of a division of England's wealth, they must look beyond their own immediate vicinity. Let them think how many millions there art in the Empire, besiderthe few thousands of badly employed operatives in the districts round Manchester and Leeds. If in their own immediate vicinity, they. see one man possessing ten thousand acres, and, a thousand men without one acre, it does not follow that an equal division would give to these men ten acres a piece; for there arc others at a distance, who would naturally have a claitn to participate. Then, even if each should have ten acres, they must. still work to gain a produce ; and that produce, if there should be an overplus after their own ex penditure, would not fetch the price in the mar ket which it does at present. Indeed, it would fetchno.price at all ; at least, not until the equal division should begin to relapse into inequality. 13ut the share of each would not exceed four acres, which might indeed be cultivated as a garden, but in no other way; for who can plough if he has no horses ?—And who can support a team of 'horses upon four acres, to say nothing of cows, sheep, &c. &C. Now, JOUNNY, after all, I wish to ask where is the difference then the same quantity of work g►ves or buys the sante quantity of produce, whe ther that produce shall arise front another man's acres or from your own ? But the fact is, that under the present system, notwithstanding the sufferings of the labouring poor, the same van thy of work affords a greater proportion of pro duce tban it could possibly do tinder any prOposed division. Nay, the land itself actually produces more at present, because it is cultivated under a greater variety of ag►icultural labour than could take place under the proposed system. What . could be done with four acres of the light sandy soil of Norfolk, or of Salisbury Downs, by a single individual, in comparison with what they yield under rotation of crops and sheep-feeding ? Recollect also that, as far as I know, nobody, who possesses more than Fotta acres wishes for a division ! Count their numbers throughout the Empire, and count the numbers of those who do wish for it, and then say whose opinion ought to guide—whose physical force ought to prevail ! But even the Dividers would wish to accumu late after division. 'Tis the natural desire of Mr- man nature, which • society encoi►rages and pro tects. One man bas one child and accumulates 1001., another 1►45 ten children, and also accumu la:es 1001. But has he a right to ask the first man to share with him ? If he has, then who will work for, or save, that which.he is not to possess ? If yon have children, JOHNNY, you wish for more char► mere maintenance. Yutl.w•ish to save against a rainy day. to realize 1001. or 10001., or 10,0001., and to leave it to your little ones. Y ou wou ld think jt a.hardship if Parliament were to pass a law that should preveut yuUr gaillibg and savlq es tnncli as yoti please; hay you are, etteh at pre sent, not vety fond of a law that forces you to yield op part of your gains to otherp—you grumble at the Poor Lawil—Suppnse you were to have such a genius as AnKwalowT or Boetors- - -it may be your ease some day-;-would you like, fifty years hence, to have your savings taken from your children, and divided amongst all th stupid, idle, and key ignoramuses, whose genius or capacity could never Carry them beyond the plough-tail, or whose sottish Wahits spent all their wages at the ale-house ? Theo, if this would be unfair fifty years hence, how can it be tohsonent to justice now ! Consider these questions coolly, J NNY, and it is not in equal division, nor in national bankruptcy, that you will look for a remedy to existing evils. There is not, nor ever was ; a country where all the people could be certain of the comforts or even the necessaries °Ellie; much , less is that to be expected in England, where the 'rely poorest consider, as necessaries' those things which are scarcely thought of in other countries, eeetras comforts, nay its luturies! Nor l's it even by reducing Britain to a state mere: ly agricultural that you could gain your desires.— Look at Astgetta, the United States, 1 mean, held up 'to you as the Land of Promise, where thousands of acres may be had for almost. nothing, all flowing with milk and honey ! But she is now in the deepest distress, and her children actually suffer the greatest misery in many parts, because trade and commerce are gone, credit at a stand, and no market for her surplus produce. With this before your eyes, will you listen to agitators,whotell you that:Britain's distresses arise from causes solely within herself .:that they are occasioned solely by the weight of taxation, and the pressure of the National Debt ! Must you nut look some where else for the cause, when you see America in deeper distress yet, comparatively speaking, without either debt or taxes ? Besides all this, where and What are your present distresses ? The Gingham Weavers of Carlisle are out of employ, because ginghams are out of fa• shion. The muslin and cotton trade is dull, be- cause the Norwich trade is brisk, and because stuffs have partly superseded printed calicoes at home, whilst the American market is in a great measure useless to you. The Woollen Weavers feel depression, because the British Army and the Armies of Europe are no longer clo►hed with our manufactures; and, in general, those engaged in preparing the necessaries of warfare, are now left to seek employment in the arts of peace. But iliid not all this, and much more, exist three years ago ? Efas it not been much remedied since tbat time ? And may yoo not thence expec a progressive amelioration and a final cure, espe cially when the resumption of Cush Payments, ii only permitted tinder very favourable circum- stances, shall assigt in levelling prices down to your present wages, provided that revulsion does not go further than our Politicians contemplate ? What is there then to excite despondency or to prompt to rash experiments ? What is to be gained by proceedings which in themselves check the progressive amelioration ? How are Man. chester or Leeds to venture upon increased enter- prize, if property is to be threatened once a month by Political Meetings, if the standard of tint and plunder is to be exhibited at tl►e very doors of their warehouses ? What have you, JOHNNY, to do with the tri coloured Standard of revolutionary France—the red, white, and blue, adopted by the Jacobins, be- cause they were the footman's livery of Elie Duke of Orleans? Zmirnls ! JOUNNY, yon make me swear ! Shall free-born Englishmen wear the livery of a French Regicide Forbid it, Heaven Your's, IGNOTUS • COUNTY OF KRNT.—The Election of a Mem ber fur this County to serve in the present Par liament, in the room of the late Sir EDWARD KNATCHBULL, took place yesterday at the Shire Horse on Pevendou Heath. The present Sir ED WARD KNATCHBULL was the only Candidate, a proof of the estimation in which he is held in the County. After a speech honourable to the feel• ings and principles of Sir EDWARD, which was warmly applauded, the High Sheriff, no other Candidate 'being proposed, now put the pies tion,—Whether the Freeholders approved of the .nomination of Sir EDWARD KNATCHBULL. —The meeting were unanimous in their ap probation, and the Hon. Baronet was declared duly elected. This intimation was received with three times three. The Hon. Baronet then step ped forward to express his acknowledgments for the confidence which had been reposed in him, and in doing so reiterated his former pledges The meeting then dispersed.. A rumour prevailed, that it was intended to introduce a loyal declara tion, relative to the proceedings at . Nlanchester; a strong muster, however, of the opponents of such a measure, it was presumed, deterred tho,e who might have contemplated such a side-wind operation, from carrying, their intention into effect. POETRY. NEW REFORM. " I nuns argenPurm , —eeraque et artes." ,, -. Q HOR. FLAC. Epist. 6, Lib. 1. Why sitrpriz'd Carlile shuts up the Temple Of Treason? irten flit Loyal acknowledge he now has some REASQN! T. G. N. , . THE THEATRES. DRlTRY•Laigi3.=—The, talent! of BRAt-TAM tri umphed last night over the incleinency 4 the gather, and his count Belila), in the Oliera of The berit'S Bridge, diem . a numerous audience. It is but justice, however, to, the rest of the Per fiirinerN, p4itictilarly Miss ittiLLy ns Lauretta, and Miss tAnew, in Rnsiakina, to say that they strongly contrihnted to the general entertainment. Aies voice altogether was in hne order, and the ails which he incidentally introdured " told well." CoVeNt•Ganntlx.. - t-" , The ii!nessofitstox,whlch at one lime, we muderstand, threatened serious consecoences, was naturally calculated to excite utreasiness among the admirers ut genuine comic humour,, as well as in the friends of a respectable individual in private life. . Last _night, how .ever, he was. able to resume Iris swim', •and he appeared at this Theatre ii, the cha racters: of Tony latrnpkin, in • Site Stoops to COnquer; The warm reception . .whieh he ex ' Perienced must hive bren highly gtatilying to him, and he made an ample return, by the spirit, whim, and humour, with which he supported the character of this waggish but good-hearted boor. We have previously noticed the representation of this pleasant but somewhat farcical Comedy. and we have only to observe, that it was last night sustained with all the ability and spirit which might tie expected from a judicious allot ment of the respective characters. The additional illuniinations give an increased brilli.,ncy to the interior, which will' probably induce BEAUTY (0 resort to it, with the assurance that its charms will be displayed in full lustre. . THE PARIS NEWSPAPERS. [From " The British Monitor" of .Sunday hug The following is an account of the principal Newspapers, and other public Journals published at Paris : Daily Papers.—Ultra I?oya.'ists. " Le Journal des Debate," " La Quutidienne," " Le Ga zette de France," " Le Drapeau Blanc." Ultra-Liberal. " Le Congtitntionel," " L'lndependent," " Le Censenr," " La Renonatar." Constitraiunal, or-Ministerial. El Le Journal de Paris," " Le Courier," " Le Journal des Nlaires." lreekl. "La Minerva," (Ultra-Liberal), " Le Conservatenr," (Ultra-Royalist), and " La Bibliotheque Historigne," (Im partial.) The Ultia-Royalists' Papers are principally edited by Messrs. Michaud, Fievee, Coiner, De Donald, Bertin, Malt• Brun- (a Danish Sans Culotte, exiled from Denmark), and Chateaubriand, %vim all of them wrote in favour of Napoleon's Government, and who were paid by his police!! The Papers of the Ultra-Liberals are chiefly edited by Messrs. Etienne, Jouy, Tissot, Benjamin Constant, and Comie ; all, excepting the two latter, were the bas valets and scribes of Buonaparte. What Mali of common sense can, therefore, for one moment, attend to the writings of such cameleons ? There is, also, a daily English Paper published a t Paris, called " Galignani's Messenger," —a Paper not of eosire to any party; but it gives a very good digest of Eng- isle news. THE MARKETS. COZW-EXCHANGE, Nov. 17.—There have been but few art ivals since Monday ; yet what Wheat remained over from that day's supply met vet y heavy sale this morning, and only fine samples could be disposed of, but for which Monday's prices were obtained. Fine Barley being scarce, is Is. per quarter dearer ; but there is no atiend meta in the price of inferior samples. Oats, Pease, and Beans, fully support Monday's prices, but the sales were rather heavy. HOP INTELLIGENCE. SOUTHWARK, Nov. Is.—We continue to have a very dull hop trade, we think more for bags than pockets, unless indeed they are some thing superior, and even these do not gt) off so readily as they did. We cannot with cor rectness quote prices, as our sales are on too low a scale to state them, but we certainly consider we are from 2s. to 4s. pet cwt. cheaper than we were ten days since. BRIGHTON, Nov. 15.—Weather dreary, damp, and comfortless, is still continued to us, and but very few of our fa3hionables are now see's. abroad, • and those few but for very short periods. The tides and promenades have been destitute of company. The PRINCE REGENT, in good health and spirits, was on horseback in the covered Riding School before dinner. The precise day for his departure it not yet axed ; but it is certainly the intention of his Royal Highness to open the two Houses of Parliament on the 2.3 d, in person. There have.been no Palace artivals to-day. On Friday the Corporation of Worcester voted the Freedom of that City to his Royal Highness the Duke of GLOUCESTER and his Grace the Mks of WELLIN,GTON ; and it is expected that these illustrious characters will embrace the opportu nity of being enrolled Citizens during the pre sent week, on the proposed visit to the Earl of COVENTRY, at Croonte. MYSTERIOUS Loss.—A box, containing va luables to a great amount, and which was in sured for 1,000/. Was lust or stolen from the Li. verpool Mail-coach on Thursday morning last, between Congleton and Lichfield ; it was ob served to - he safe at tie former place, but got% when the coach arrived at the latter. It does not appear that any circumstances have yet transpired to (ley:Jape the myr crions manner in which it has disappeared. The Mail travels be tween two places at night, and there is reason to fear, that -some person acquainted with its valu able contents has succeeded stealing it.