The Sun. — London, England, 1841-03-02 00:00:00

"~' LY.) . and 'bons a wet in it reserved a fter the: .ctions and )f the da}'• )AY)'' fumed it 4; d owl 13044 ar wo' e t h Enterw DAYO' • us,ou Iting )ruary last, ,4 a servant. lay eveni n g a t ' lin again 2,, i 4 Wit l “ . and .10 i vard. * She. , cont i n ued moue! the tt e° hold of SP btect .ther. Ile s°°"l iarp l l' iiistru it ; hut ' we la l'elie f rhe pri. • ball hat I, e f e the P• that thee ero otherthe 41 the tcst!'t t 1. ' the Lull 10 , cot a t ro w 0 14.- Ltujut'rix ae' 'e that the r f the ; 0 ing i ll!, l e he ' Of he baa b!' eT ti OW, ri Pr•dir 0 , POI• Ce en at b° 3 3 . 3fourth v ideo , nd the Pr' ELA II4' AUC H '2 ILI. [LA. che' e ' ; c -ut onionr. a o tio r n f u i lD reg p t i e je Erect, ir , roe cco 184°. ai , b een f,ti l inCO' ef Be li9pen.o7ofurll eerie' .1 ~ he . istabl's'ej eatrti't • do t gels " n „ s , ho gs ••- oo tot t he one on t he , e r on or 8- rg, , 9 ‘ ole tbC Uie laS'" Ilght the vol g",le o 011 . 001 : bet , ,ne. tre bre C C a t n d pr . G; 10 11 , at odet the - f i te o ' o c oy ea rls of st charge.e 6 rt 01 neS S t ron es ! e / cir Oro- so fir t'7 et ar.• 0 1 1 ace king gill tio bo iof tbe t he - - ., 1 $O. t r~ ard. ~ " ti g h Bn. O for .lie re; • stat ir& re cci" l ,scat to RVENIN G E DITION M AGAZINES CONTINUED. Thi s TUE fit, THE sporti ng p er i o di ca l i s em b e lli s hed 3 n two ratherspiritc.l illustrations, the" Stable," „Y . jleckwith, from a de , :ign, by Turner, and the e telon detected," designed and engraved by .T for mer artist. The detected felon is sly Zeinard, w h o i s discovered by a huntsman j ust he is about to convey to his den the feathered pttrdi an Pro. aching of the nearest hen-roost lying dead befor e bi t ,. Reynard's blank-look at his ap foe would form no bad study for the imitation of biped aspirants for the honour of an T a i lY . appearance at the bar of the Old Bailey. ae letter-press of this Number abounds in i2ing anecdotes of the chase, whic . h are not .• , --ie,.ss Stirring for their air of doubtful authen t -,,. THE SPURTING REVIEW. the - embellishments of the Sporting Review I,' "'Warch a re " Fox-hunting," Plate 111. by fro m •a design by Davis, and a map of the various !netts of the Quorn Hounds. Both are well 'executed as the gen e rality of Magazine arty mtratioits. The best papers in this Number " Il Ytle Marston," and the ''History of the t a rf,” both, we suspect from pt'n the of the Edi r°r, though Only one i s sa id t o b e hi s . " Sham juek-'' is a sad 111111(1 at the Irish brogue which th e b , ►ye, , few Englishmen are ever able to t'ilaliage, of owev Lady Morwan,n convers anint, Lover, Carle- R at they may be with " t tale s y 61 .4 Miss Edgw-orth, and Mrs. Hall. Nimrod's b r ush ill Leicester s hir e " is continued, but so ii, l et l 3- that we d er i ve scarcely any - pleasure from t ;,Perusal. Th e " ltioVal Stu will prove a heic o nto articl e t o suc h country sportsmen as k ave never h a d an opportun i ty of v i s i t i ng h er aiesty's Mews at Pimlico. rii.111.01:1::::(1Ufht./(1%)/t. UnliVtifieViE(.l?),(S,,lTreHM,AmG.ll.ZioNr all , rell ", 111 ) Cobbett well described him, is the t or 3. figure in the portrait gallery of the llubliu Magazine fin. March ! Yes there tlie veritable Daniel himself; his cloak. thrown • ac itrt 'li'ssly round his portly tigure, and lie in the the of ' 11 1( 1 011:r down to the II ouse of Commons. smile on his fitce, and the twinkle of his 1) 6. 4.4 44' roguish eve , te ll as p l a i n l y as wor d s s trzli tlt l l .i o tti t l lt i a d t i l , t ) ( ‘ _%i , s r enjoying. in anticipation some k the Tor. e biogcal M e „ t , el ., l which aecompanies ies the Th portrait ra of phi the for :Dublin, though penned by a rabid 44'3', betrays indications of a latent and long 4e,rsited zahniration of the distinguished object h tne writer's vituperation. Though opposed in sl e i ,. : 1111 and soul to Daniel and his party, the writer • to'ins front appearing the vulgar asmtilant li eal umniator of a Man whom lie evidently nks is PU houour to the country that gave him v v L .l -• o.- quoteo at sentence or two to show in . to r 7 1 t , his diners from cot, rse atta.ek 'onneli in the ecili.Lniliz of the , ' 14 9 mail and the Standard:— We 1 00 :d in s i nuations against Mr. O'Connell's va- In the most unequivocal terms we declare . • 114 in them. We lay no such flattering • slack to our souls as that rebellion must grow ( L e ek in consequence of Mr. O'Connell's cowar stre' If he thought it advisable to marshal the hinecingth of his masses against the power of Eng,- ' we believe firmly that, from any craven wier,e,llensions of what would befal himself, he 1 40 1 : 1 la 'tot stay the battle. On the contrary, we '• " That hour of bliss is all he'd crave • , r - Bet ween hi s l a b ours an d hi s grave ." O'Connell is not a dastard." The (i'd • kr- goes on t o ex pr ess his b e li e f that Mr. 611?nnell was a r e peal e r from th e first moment reell 3lfei Politi ca l ex i stence — a f act w hi c h, h e says , a nd B les all th at appears di screpan t i n hi s l ong (list inguished political career. He is further st a 4.lladed that M r . O'C onne ll never f or an in to sw erved from his principles, or was untrue O'C itri selt According to this Tory writer, Mr. at tl ` l 3 , tiliell is a mistaken and a mischievous, but suaLsaine time a thoroughly honest, self-per .Lefo-", and self-confiding politician, who, seeing betty him what he deems the only path to li jr, pursues it with unfaltering foot, unchang 00e, and unfailing heart. This sketch of fi e "hell by a contemporary Orangeman, satis tettBi4S that posterity will do justice to the political B h ," of the Irish liberator. The " Misfortunes of of t - h e Y Branagan," by William Carleton, one • eolitr most delightful of Irish story-tellers, is tie "ed. this month. " Dramatic Doings" is a ver 'With s ketch, evidently written by one familiar •18 fOllll the app roac h es t o the Green-room. It •q, li z ,;," life, as such sketches ought to be. M. " Washington," and Taylor's " Natural of Society," supply materials for two ar able, and, in a great measure, judicious st ml l, • "Charles O'Malley,"' in right-dash- YLe, brings the rear, and in his company up - are Th e v - never tired, except with laughing. He is tr ue trY bean ideal of au Irish Dragoon of the b e „ stamp. May so pleasant a fellow 'lever sent to vegetate on half-pay A 1 , BRITISH MAGAZINE. ne e p e riodical devoted chiefly to subjects cop the „ e ", with the Church and its discipline. Among a4 l , T i inal papers in the present number there s lf th e "-,telligent one on the "Pastoral Character prot a nt Office," in which the duties of a 11 4tA -s ' i lt Bishop are detailed with much Ini- Aiess. COURT CIRCULAR. • , hie r b 4ses 144je;tytioyAl Highness the Duchess of Kent visited her aes % t aod Prince Albert yesterday. Her Royal High- Vise wad 'ed in the gardens of Buckingham Palace. %Idust Melbourne had an audience yesterday of the • —Q M Highness Prince Albert, attended by Sir ter 1 , • 4r d Bow ater and Captain Francis Seymour, vis i te d 11 014 ;:lkity the Queen Dowager yesterday at Marlborough • '1 1 ; D cl ue a R oyal dinner party at the Palace list eveningin- S tki ; e ' ler Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent, Ear l e o e f tcp! , Y , Earl and Countess of Uxbridge, the Ladies El - Is ti, lad Constanc e P age ., E ar l an d C oun tess of \lulus "'LY Jane Grimcton Lady Fanny Howard, V - Lsh o A!el b ourne, and the ' Right Hon. Henry and Mrs. • T li me aere. die lle e e Marquis of Normanby and Lord Hill bad au kt t:a his Royal Highness Prince Albert yesterday, m; e ""lgham Palace. Wyle;-General Sir Edward Bowater, has relieved Col. tl, -° ' 4 the duties of Eq uerry in Waiting on his Royal ''!llekst Prince Albert. 'est er ase Albert honoured Mr. A. Penley with a sitting Th e nY morning at Buckingham Palace. t--,uchess of Gloucester took an airing yesterday in 4 re,, A t o e ttui, t . e Patalion from the General Shipowners' S o cie ty , G ould, of Mr. Henry Buckle, Chairman, M ess rs . h it Porrest, and Tindall, and Mr. Ovia.e, Secretary, e C o l tew art th illte " 4 • h Lord John Russell, yesterday, at He r A , al-office. mln&ter4aJesty's Commissioners of Sewers for Wes_t sasiii "id Part of Middlesex, including Mr. T. L. * kiln -a ". Chairman, l‘lessrr. W. M. Thiselton Dyer, krt 11...eslie, and Edward Willoughby, and Mr. L. C. M 4,4 et t , Clerk, bad an inter‘iew yesterday with the °I liormaribv at the Home-office. 41 4, 9Pr ettaian and Spanish Ministers transacted business 1);• Y at tho Foreign-office. i.kts t • R 'lPh and Dr. IV, from Upper Canada, had au 441 Yesterday with Lord John Russell, at the Colo `4 Ye l ater Pl iknb ""ges had an interview with the Marquis of Nor daY, at the Home-office. ter vie . S ' al leY. M. P , and Mr. Holmes, M. P., bad in be ws with Lord John Russell yesterday. :ti :t v , e ht: ll :•;: ,e se t t h e e r e d a aeysfrtoca:ntt the C Colonial - office. Governornial..offi of e. Gibraltar were re , urkish mbassador yid ed the Panorama of St. Y I day. SURREY THEATRE. , A 4,, , ........—,—............ Pt(, 111 . " Piece, called the King of Spain and his . 13arber, was k,ii t i ~1 -e d ` i ta his House last night, and although it was tame or prqtlndli in' language and sentiment, and almost destitute Alk w . , It cra.wl:3(l its slow lenoth along to a close amidst t ~, it s „ f , 'nl t not a discriminating, certainly a most noisy and tliis!i°ltisfied auditor But lenient as the audience were to ' , kit 4 1 , de fortuity y: But would inevitably hive . been sealed alit 41, Re exertions of the actors, who did their utmos an _ ,iieran its --1 weight and impart to .it some lie d f 3 3d )T. ; r • W. Sm . th s ' the Barber, supplied . the place o I til e l inorke , of whi •h i the , pa. hate woefully destitute, although ' l ll (1 , - `"nt has been ( ' rash enough attempt the humorous, inini4;''.eroos attitudes, contortions of the face, and somewhat . the a,1,14.11 alterations ' of the voice, and succeeded in keeping 41. nlat• Lenc e in good humour, while Mr. Hughes, as . the melo- Par t , , I ,e hero of the piece, performed the more impressive nettelith indgment and effect. We would, however, reeom -5f ( .)1,1 ' 1 41 t ° Ore up imitating the errors and blemishes c ( . ieti ...r, e , ~ Kean's totacing which he appears to have , 1 2 3 -,Vliously evert th ' harsh grating and huskiness of ' 11 ert ( 1 1 -- In Poor Ja which followed, the part of Jack So .k.Pkrt°,;:swas performed by Mr. T P. Cooke, being his first ap %ito .;":.e at thi s ~ his favourite' metropolitan theatre, for the last "ki4i ga j s, and he was most loudly and even vociferously wel not 04 " Y k crowded house. Mr. Cooke's Jack Somerton is I fEei ent ° ,f his. happiest perscnations. The incidents are not tall 440 ty storing, nor the dialogue impassioned enough, to f , (43 li er. 111 ,,Y the better powers of this popular nautical per ''cre coldie had the disadvantage also, of labouring under a ll ttet e h, and although he exerted his voice to its u!mest t t , th , tu e - "grY gods were not satisfied, and they continued Piee:l4der forth their y f displeasure until the close of the ft,ti,., netwithstandinir Mr s C oo oke came forward and apologised a we t ' .. want of ,uie,,. g The Eleanor of Mrs. Henry Vining was s ,l ith ildiceived and well -executed performance; and . Mr. W. "itti ' 4' . a runawav barber rejoicing in the name of Tim Two elicited roar; of laughter. The musical drama of Paul the . ‘ u e ° ,,V ,, ! in which Mr. Cogins was much applauded, concluded "Ing's amusements • i „.....„....______..... t, ,, th e Perquisites and munificent presents . made 410y,:p;t4,4urse on the recent occasion of t . le Princess 4),,nisr,ler-PrettB3.umniare. statedtl haveam amounted 1 t „ h ..,. , ;it would be insidious, "'report ascribes to be the amoun P t e . rhaill' in value to a to men -1 ikile.,Turkish Ainbassador visited the Panorama 'Pe% d'Aere yesterday. MOUNT ARARAT. AN OFFICIAL ACCOUNT OF THE GREAT EARTHQUAKE, DRAWN UP BY MAJOR VOSKOBOINIKOF, OF THE IMPERIAL RUS SIAN ENGINEERS. kFrJrn the St. Petersburgh Gazette.) The earthquake, which changed in a few mo ments the entire aspect of the country in the neigh bourhood of Mount Ararat, commenced on the 20th of June (Russian, or old style), 1840, at about 45 minutes after 6 in the evening. Re peated, but in:ermittent, shocks, which seemed to come from the mountain, gave to the earth a move ment resembling waves, which continued for about two minutes. The first four and most formidable shocks, which were accompanied by a subterraneous sound, proceeding in the direction of east-north east, have left on the summits of hills and bottoms of valleys within the range of the agitation, traces which will not soon disappear, and which the eye of the scientific observer will recognize after many ages shall have passed away. It was at the same time observed, that numerous rents or fissures took place on the banks of the Araxes and the Karassu, from the source of the latter to its confluence with the Arpatchai, on all the spots where the banks of those rivers arc some what elevated. These fissures, which were parallel to the course of the streams, ploughed the earth to the distanee of a verst from the beds of the rivers, and, in accordance with the movement given to thesoil by the shocks, they were seen every moment to open and shut. There also occurred a great number of vio lent explosions from the bottoms of holes like little craters, which opening and shutting in the same way as fissures, spouted out torrents of water, and cast up immense quantities of pebbles and gravel. The waters of the Araxes were so violently agitated, that they rose over both banks, now causing inun dation, then sinking again into the centre of the bed, which thus appeared concave. According to the accounts of the people of the country, several parts of the river became dry, while at other parts the body of the stream rose to a great height, mak ing a noise like the sound of boiling water. Tile local auihorities took care to verify these facts, which were related by a number of eye-witnesses, and several circumstances leave no doubt if the correctness of their statements. At :he end of Au gust there were still to be seen fissures here and there in the bed of the river, which might have absorbed the water, while it might have been thrown up from others. During these awful moments terror and desola tion reigned everywhere to a great distance around Mount Ararat. The Persian town of Maku, and Beiazeth, the chief town of a Turkish Paeludie, also suffered from the earthquake. Its sueee: - s:ve shocks convulsed in a few minutes the earth as far se Shuss and Tabris on the one side, and to Tiflis on the other. But its ravages extended chiefly over the Russian territory. The ancient and venerable monument of St. James, and the village of Acorhi, with its 200. houses and 1,000 inhabitants, situated on the skirts of Mount Masis, at the foot of the Great Ararat, were entirely destroyed by the im mense masses of rock which were detached from the summit of the mountain, and by the colossal gla ciers accumulated during an incalculable series of ages in that region of eternal snow, which those rocks brought with them in their descent. In the cantons of Erivan, Sharur, Nakhichevan, and Ordubat, nearly all the houses have been en tirely destroyed. In Nakhichevan two Armenian churches, five mosques, 779 houses, and 25 shops were quite ruined. In the district of the same name, including the canton of Ordubat, the num ber of edifices destroyed has been found to amount to 2,436 houses, one church, two mosques, and 17 mills, leaving out of the account 1,095 houses, nine churches, five mosques, and 15 mills, which were more or less seriously damaged. In the canton of Sharur the earthquake threw down 3,135 houses, and 75 mills. In the same canton, on the left of the river Araxes, where its banks are somewhat elevated, land-slips took place, which carried away several villages, and the adjoining corn-fields. Most fortunately the catastrophe occurred before sunset, which is doubtless the cause that the number of victims, the inhabitants of Acorhi excepted, was less considerable than might have been expected. With that exception, the number is limited to merely 49 individuals in the two districts of Erivan and Nakhichevan, exclusive of seventeen seriously wounded. The influence of the earthquake on all the wells within the two districts mentioned was very temark able. In the canton of Nakhichevan upwards of 30 springs were dried up for some time ; some con tinued even several days after the catastrophe to yield only thick and whitish-coloured water ; others, on the contrary, became more abundant than they had previously been ; and in the vicinity of several of the latter new springs made their appearance. Thus the volume of water from the springs of Karassu and Chapan, near the village of Sadarak, is more than double what it was ; and a new current of water, which first issued forth at the time of the earthquake, still flows from a cleft in Mount Gindil. At Karagasanlu, a poor village situate at the confluence of the rivers Arpatchai and Araxes, the earthquake was observed in all its terrific grandeur. Terrified by the first shock, and stunned by a noise like the rolling of thunder, the inhabitants had no sooner raised their eyes to the summit of the Ararat, and beheld the direction of the detached masses of rock, than a second shock overthrew their clay huts. The whole village disappeared amidst an immense cloud of dust ; at the same time the earth alternately opened and closed around them, and numerous columns of water spouting up in the air from the apertures, threw into the fields sand and pebbles which had been dislodged from the bottom of those frightful gulfs. The unfortunate inhabitants fled in dismay from the places of their birth. h is difficult to afford any idea of the scene which presented itself in the narrow valley of Acorlii. The masses of rock, ice, and snow, detached by the first shock from the summit of the Ararat and its lateral points, were thrown, at one single bound, from a height of 6,000 feet to the bottom of the valley, where they lay scattered over an extent of seven versts. At first not the slightest traces of the monastery or the village were perceptible ; but gradually the snow and ice began to melt, and the mass of debris, losing its adhesion, separated and crumbled away in various directions. A portion was carried down by the slope of the valley as far as the banks of the Karassu, with such rapidity, that huge masses of ice preserved entire and immense fragments of rock, were in the space of a few minutes hurled to a distance of 20 versts from the point where they had fallen. This happened at nine in the morning of the 24th of June. Torrents of clayey mud, of a whitish colour, issued from the sides of the great mars of debris, which remained immoveable, inun dating and devastating the fields and meadows from that point to the banks of the Karassu. These torrents were so great, that between the mountains bounding the valley of Acorhi and the banks of the river the ground was inundated to the extent of twelve versts in width. The sudden formation of these torrents of mud, and the rapidity of their movement, present an ex traordinary phenomenon. It may be conjectured that masses of compact clay had been formed, apparently by volcanic evaporation, at the summit of Mount Ararat, on the porphyroide trachytes. These masses, which crushed everything in their descent, were transformed, at the first contact with the water produchd by the melted snow and ice, into a muddy matter, which afterwards flowed along the slope of the valley. Perhaps, too, being carried along by these waters, like other debris, these masses were dissolved whilst the torrent was rolling them towards the plain. Be this as it may, one of these torrents of mud, falling into the Karassu, forced that river to alter its course. A vast number of mutilated human bo dies, frightful evidences of the disaster of Acorhi, were hurled into the Karassu ; so that the waters of the river were for a long time unfit for use in :coking or drinking. By the sth of July these torrents had entirely disappeared ; but the valley of Acorhi has assumed quite a new aspect. It has become broader at its upper part, because the soil is there more elevated than it formerly was, and the boundary of eternal snow on the Ararat appears lower. Two springs which used formerly to be remarked at a short dis tance from the monastery, now issue from among the debris of the rock covering that part of the valley, and indicate the spot where the venerable edifice stood. In the same way we can conjecture the situation once occupied by a small meadow on twhielicshkiratts the mountain of opposite r catastrophe e monastery, i n ha: momentthe bited by a nomade tribe of thirty families, all of whom perished. The meadow is now covered with a deep stratum of clay. On a piece of ground el:- tending from the monastery to"the village of A eothi, where formerly were to be seen cultivated fields and gardens, we at present find a labyrinth of hillocks of a conical form, composed of fragments of ruck, and covering fragments of glaciers, which, in con sequence of being thus protected against the influ ence of the atmosphere, are not yet melted. These hillocks are furrowed by numerous fissures, and have cavities full of water containing vitriol; they will probably disappear when the ice which they cover shall be dissolved. The stratum of clay where it has buried the village is comparatively inconsiderable. In the hope of finding articles of value, the Curds soon began to explore the ruins. The excavations they have made, to the depth of a sagene, expose to view the rafters of the cottages still -resting on the ruins of these habitations. Here and there some frag ments of the inferior part of the walls remain up right. The interior is everywhere filled with lumps of ice and blocks of rock—a proof that the village was not destroyed by a torrent of debris rolling and ' sliding down the side of the mountain like an ava lanche, but was crushed by a mass of matter, which having been hurled through space descended per• pendicularly on the spot. After the great concussion, the effects of which were so dreadful, distinctly felt shocks occurred at intervals until the 28th of July ; they afterwards diminished in force, but they did not entirely cease in the district of Sharur until the Ist of Sep tember, and, though .very feeble towards the close of that period, they were still accompanied by a slight subterraneous noise. The shocks which occurred in the canton of Nakhichevan, between the 21st and the 28th of June, overthrew the buildings which the first earth quake had shaken. The heaviest shocks which were afterwards observed occurred on the 14th of July, at 3 Aar., in the quarantin of Igttr, and on the 25th of July, at 3 and 10 A.M., and at 5 P.M., in the canon of Surmalinsk. SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS FRO3I THE EVENING PAPERS OF YESTERDAY. (From Cie Globe.) Whenever the Tories happen to be in a small mino• rity upon a division of the House of Commons, tie Conservative organs of the Press amuse themselves and their readers by endeavouring to show that the defeat their ra ty has sustained is, in fact, a victory. It may be very, satisfactory to the patrons of the Standard to be carried throuth a series of statistics sue .1 " pay; s," '• a',sentecs" desettrs," :he Irish tail: and 1o;;e-},e1lers," until they are brought to the colt frutaVe eotielusion that a tia.j.rity of ti, e against flie,a is one of thirty•tvo in their favour; but a; l'ing as the simple yet inflexible rules of the unerring Co. ker continue to prevail, it will be impossible to mal e 294 a greater number than 299, however hard the Tory scribes may labour to prove it so. It is really am :sing to not cc the various ingenious devices to wh . ch Conservative calcul itors re;ort, in order to " lay the fla tering unction to their souls" that the sta e of numbers in the recent division was the result of an thing rather than an expression of the sense of the House of Cornmons,—which is the obvious and of ly solutian of t' - -e triumph of the Government. The Oppo sition papers go into absurd and puerile details about casualties having kept away from the House on the eventful night such and such of their friends—wherca-, if these casualties are to be taken into account, it might probably be shown that the greater number of absent members would have voted on the side of Ministers. There is something particularly cool in the proposi tion to deduct 40 front the majority as about the num ber of Ministers and place-holders who voted on Thurs day last,—the objection taken to them being grounded, it is presumed, on interest ; but, if there be 40 who voted holding place, it would be curious to ascertain how many were, by the hope qf place, induced to swell the minority. Taking it for granted, at a moderate calculation, that for every office filled by the Whigs there are on an average at least three greedy expectants among the Tories, surely, if 40 place holders are to be struck off on one side, 120 place kunters ought to be struck off on the ether. (From the Standard.) • The two grounds of apology for Lord Morpeth's Bill are, fiist, th,t the franchise qualification is un certain in Ireland ; and, secondly, that the consti tuencies arc in a declining state, and in danger of being further diminished if purged of fraudulent votes. The falichood of both pretexts was triumphantly de monstrated in the four days' debate. The franchise qualification was proved to be as certain in Ireland as in Great Britain, if words mean the same thing on the one side of St. George's Channel as on the otlit2r. It is nothing to the purpose to say that a few Whig- Radical 1 iwyers, 12vated to the bench from the obscurer racks of the bar for factious purposes, interprt t the law differently from all the Judges of England and the great majority of the Irish Judges. The law is still the same. The law was net ilt2red ether as to cer tainty or effect by the corrupt misinterpretation of the Judges of the first Charles or the second James ; two and Iwo make four, though knaves may try to mislead us, or fools may mislead themselves by saying that they make five. It is a remarkable fact, that ea%ry English 1 iwyer, who spoke in the debate, from Sir William Follett downwards, laughed t ) scorn the pretence that the: e could he any honest or rational doubt as to the Irish fran chise qualification, and the only Irish lawyers who affected, how( ver faintly, to defend such a doubt were Mr. Pigot the Precursor, and Mr. Daniel O'Connell the Repealer. The motives of these rersons are easily understood. (From the Courier.) Considerable attention has been devoted of late years to the subject of lunatic asylums, and generally the pub lic Lave followed with much interest the course of those improvements in the treatment of insane and unhappy objects, and in hospital discipline, which have honour ably characterised the present time and the many phi'an thropic persons by whom promoted. It was therefore natural that those who had taken leading parts in per fecting new institutions and reforming dell etiva modes of practice, where falling within the scope of their du ties or observation, should in the progress of their la bours be led to inquire into the systems prevailing in the noble and older foundations of the country, with a view to correct such abuses as might have crept through time into the general management, and of ameliorating, or, it need were, of replacing, by more enlightened modes of treatment, the special methods established when the moral phenomena of the lamentable disease of lunacy were more imperfectly understood only, or when, in fact, it was treated almost exclusively as the province of medical art and medicine, to the neglect of the appli ance of those moral agents, which are now found so ef fective to the end, of kind treatment, soothing language, gentle demeanour, gradual weaning of the less ex cited brain from the particular origin of irritability and imperceptible restoration at length, as symptoms became less disturbing and lucid intervals snore frequent, of the mental faculties. Under the influence of such feelings and desires, it wa', therefore, that the state of the Royal Hospital of Bethlem attracted the notice of certain inquiring and benevolent minds . among the governors themsel%ee, as wed as among the public, and this war the less remarkable, as, so far back as 1814, the result of a Parliamentary inquiry disclosed the existence of revolt irg barbarities in regular practice there upon the most un protected am( unfortunate of all objects. It is net with the intention of now throwing discredit on the management that w e dllude to the disgusting Ce tails embodied in that Report, such as we find them quot , d in a very able pamphlet of Six Letters ti the Presdeat of Bethlem Hosp:tal, on the Management of that Establishment," lately published by Simpkin and Marshall. We are quite of opinion with the candid author, that " A perusal of the List of Governors is alone sufficient to satisfy the most prejudiced objector, that no abuse will be wilfully upheld ; and that if Bt thlem does not take that rank in public estimation to which, by its wealth, its power, and its respectability, it is entitled, it is because of the sluggish nature of its constitution, and the unhesitating belief of its members that all is rightly done when all is rightly intended." But it cannot be denied that there has been, and still is, pro bably, much wanting to promote the more extensive usefulness of the Hospital. STRANGE BRIDEGROOM.-4 couple presented themselves before the cura6e of Wrexham Church- on the morning of Tuesday last, to be joined together in the h sly bonds of matrimony. The service had proceeded to that part of the ceremony whore the minister calls upon the bridegroom to say after him, " I, A. B. take thee, C. D., to be my wedded wife," when the man, instead of re peating the words, said, '6 I wull, I'll have her." The minister remonstrated with him, and told him to repeat the exact words after him, as above men tioned. The man, however persisted in his manner of reply, and " I wull, I'll have her." The clerk, thinking he had some impediment in his speech, whispered to him softly to repeat the words after the Curate, but without ,- 4 Fect. The naa contilue I to reply as before; and the Cs 'ate, who said he was an obstinate fellow, re fused to proceed with the ceremony. The parties came from Church unmarried. The man is a potter, and lives in the Walks, Wrexham.—Cantarvon Herald. Mrs. COCkerell, now the Countess of Eolinton, was the widow of Captain Howe Cockerell, whom she first met on lur passage to India, whither the Captain was also going to push hie fortune. He arrived at the period of the great failures in Calcutta, and thr oug h hi s f am il y connec tions was appointed to wind up the affairs of some of the great houses; a service is which he reali ei 160,0001. in a few years. He died shcr,ly after his ret urn to England, leaving his y oun g and beautiful wife the life int rest of his firtune, and 40,000/. at her absolute dis posal.—Glasgow Chronicle. Mr. Button, gardener, at Caistor, had new po atnes to dinner on New Year's Day. TUIP,4 SUN, LONDON, TUESD 1 7 , MARCIT 2, 1811. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, MAncu 1. Their Lordships met ut Five o'clock. ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS—CASE OF MR. BAINES. Lord MONTEAGLE presented a petition from Leicester for the liberation of Mr. W. Baiccs, and for an alteration of the laws relating to Ecclesiastical Courts. The Marquis of NORMAN BY laid on the table tl:e last Report of the Poor-law Commissioners. Tne Bishop of EXETER — Pre3ented a petition from Carlow, against the Parliamentary grant to the Col lege of Maynooth. The Earl of RIPON begged to ask his Noble Fricnd the Secretary for the Home Department whether there was any objection to lay on the table of the House .papers relating to the condition of a new colony, known by the name of South Australia. That colony, as he understood, had been formed on a new principle, and was to have supported itself, but the managers of it !ad contrived to incur a debt of upwards of 30,0001., which they had no means on earth of paying. It was said that they in tended to call upon the Oldie to pay it ; and if that was their intlrition, he (Lord upon) thought it desir able that their Lordships should 'lava some information on the subject in the mean time. The Marquis of NORMANBY said that if his N iLle Friend would put his question in a definite form, he would endeavour to lay the information desired before the House. THE EARL OF CARDIGAN'S TRIAL. Lord DENMAN presented a petition from one of the clerks of the Central Criminal Court, praying east the depositions forwarded from that Court, in the case of the Earl of Cardigan, migl.t be returned, as they would be required in the approaching trial of Captain Douglas. The Noble and Learned Lord supporte3 the prayer, and moved that the depositions be returned by messengers of their Lordships' own.—Ordered. CHURCH INTRUSION (SCOTLAND). The Earl of DALHOUSIE gay.; notice that he would to-morrow evening put a question to the Earl of ALefdeen, as to the course which he meant tq pursue this Session, on the Sufject of the intrusion of Minist,:rs in the Church of Scotland. Their Lordships then adjourned at Twenty Minn! e: tait Five o'Clock. ROUSE OF COMMONS, MAncil 1. r ne SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour. Mr. ARMSTRONG took the oaths and his scat as Member for the King's County. The llon. Member was introduced by Lord Morpeth and Colonel Westenra. Un the mot;on of Mr. WALLACE, the G 1 isgow, Pai.-I,y, and Gr, eaock Railway was read a second time. Mr. HURT prese..te..l a petition from a Oleo in D,:rhysilire against the Poor-law Amendment 811. Mr. DUNBAR pre.sootud P etitions from places in ani Anti in favour of Lord Stlnle's Mr. 11 t 7 TTON pr, , tot pditiott from the ,Jev, 1)141, prityhq t‘iat they filight. be allo.i - ed to ..Att eept of c, - ,tporatd otliec.: by taking the :.ath of the and 2(1 of Victoria. Mr. JOHN O'CONNELL presented a petition 'row. Liverpool, sigricd by 22,800 persons, praying for he repeal of the Union. Cap!a;n BRYAN presented peftions from parishes in Kilkenny, in favour of Lord Morpeth's 131.1 ; and ao'nit that introduced by Lord Stanley, for the Re giAration of Voters in "Ireland. Mr. BROTHERTON presented a petition from the Board of Guardians of the Salford Union agaimt tl:c Poor law Amendment Bill. Sir J. Y. BULLER presented petitions from Exe ter and various other places in favour of Lord £vlor peth's Bill for the registration of voters in Ireland, and against the Bill introduced by Lord Stanley. Mr. ROUND presented petitions from Essex alsinst the Poor-lint Amendment Bill. Lord 111ORPETH presented petitions from parishes in Londonderry, Antrim, and Down, in favour of Lord Morpeth% R"gistration B!11. Mr. BLAKE presented similar petitions from Gil way. Mr. W. EVANS presented a petition from a parish ll,:rby, in favour of Church Extension. Mr. G. W. WOOD presented three petitions from Kendal, in favour of the Copyright of Designs Bill. Mr. W ALLACE presented a petition from Green ock, praying that molasses in bond may be permitted to by refined into sugar. Alio a petition from the same place, stating the opinion of the petitioners, that t'ae House hal been paying a great deal tan much attention to Church mat ers of lat , , and suggesting that their time would be more profitab:y employed by considering the best means to build the Navy cheaply, and man it well. Major 11PNA M ARA presented a petition from the Grand Jury of the county of Clare, in favour of the Irish Drainage Ball ; also a petition from some pl Ice in the county of Galway, in favour of Lord Morpeth's Re gistration Bill and against Lord Stanley's. Mr. BINGHAM BARING presented a petition from some place in Staffordshire, praying for the exclu sion of Roman Catholics from Parliament. Mr. T. DU N COMBE presza d a petition, signed by upwards of 2,000 of the inhabita'.ts of the borough of Finsbury, against the New Poor-law ; also a petition from an indiy.dual named B tgster, residing at Hereford, stating that he had watched Vie operation of the Poor-law Act, and that the cruelty and expense e. it Iliad by it were almost beyond endurance ; that tl e ratei in Herefoid had in conseqnence been raised from 4s. 6d. to 9s. 7d. ; that robbery and incendiarism ha l ificreased in consequence ; that many of the poor rather starve than go i nto a wor kh ouse , a nd that if it were continued, the lower classes would be completely alienated from their superiors, and praying that the BB for its continuance might not pass into a law. Mr. H. DRUMMOND presented a petition from the Presbytery of Eagle praying for the better obser vance of the Sunday. MANCHESTER, AND LEEDS RAILWAY. Mr. GREENE brought up a report from the Pri vate Bills' Committee, stating that the petitioners for the Manchester and Leeds Railway Bali had not complied with the standing orders. Ordered to be referred to the Committee on Stand ing OrdeF. - The HON. (JENTLEMAN also brought up a report, stating that the petitioners for the West Durham Rail way Bill had complied with the standing orders.— Leave was given to bring in the Bill, which was read a first time. Oa the motion of Sir J. P. B. CHICHESTER the Barnstaple Road Bill was read a second time. _ Mr. W YSE presented a petition from the county of Waterford in fav our o f L or d Morpeth's Registration Bill. Lord F. EGERTON presented a petition from 3,500 inhabitants of the Borough of Salford in favour of Lord Stanley's Registration Bill. Mr. Alderman THOMPSON presented a petition from John Joseph Stockdale complaining of the treat ment which he had experienced from the House, and praying that his case might be taken into consideration ; o from an individual of the name of Hughes, George yard, Lombard.street, complaining that he ba'l hem overcharged in the window tax ; also from the county of GI tmorgan against the New Poor-law Bill. Sir R. BATESON presented a petition from the county of Londonderry in favour of,Lord Stanley's Re gistra.ion Bill, and against that.brought in by the Go vernmolt. Mr. E. ROCHE presented a petition against Lord Stanley's Registration Bill, and in favour of Lord Mor ptth's, signed by 2,6G4 persons in the county of Cork. Sir R. H. INGLIS presented petitions from pa rishes in the counties of Bedford and Stafford in fa vour of Church Extension. _ IRISH REGISTRATION BILL. Colonel RA WDON presented petitions from places in the county of Down in favour of the Bill brought in by Lord Morpeth, and against that of Lord Stanley. Colonel WESTENRA presented petitions from the King's County in favour of Lord Morpeth's, and against Lord Stanley's Bill. An Horn, MEMBER presented a petition from a place in the county of Surrey against the encouragement of idolatry in the East Indies. Mr. BROTHERTON presented a petition in fa vour of the extension of the Copyright Designs Bill. Mr. O'CONNELL presented nineteen petitions from several places in Irelind, praying the House to adopt the Bill introduced for th e extens i on o f t h e registration, and to reject the Bill for its extinction. Mr. M. PHILIPS presented thirty-five petitions against the extension of the Copyright Designs Bill. Mr. H. GRATTAN presented petitions from the • county of Donegal, in favour of the G overnmen t mea sure for Irish Registration. The Hon. Gentleman stated one of the petitions was from four individuals who complained they had been forced t o s i gn a pet i t i on in favour of Lord Stanley s Bill by the Magistrates, who did not disclose to them the nature of the petit'on ; one of the petitioners stated, " I never would have signed the petition above allud e d t o had 1 known the'purport of it, and I thought no gen tleman would have so deceived me." Another said " When I refused to sign, the Magistrate said he would write to my landlord, and not only against me but any one (lse who should r efuse ; and another said advan prFsente.d a petition from tige had been taken of a lop of morn , that had been lea him to induce him to sign the petition.. The Hon. Member raid he had abstained presenting the petition until he bad been twice a pplied to to do so. Mr. L A BOUC H EKE Messrs. Dugdale and Co., calico printers, Manchester, in favour of the Bill for the Extension of Copyright De. signs. Mr. HODGES presented a similar petition from Kent. Sir E. PEEL presented a petition from a place in Staffordshire in favour of Church Extension. Mr. SOMERS presented a petition from Sligo in favour of the Government Registration Bill. Mr. HAWES presented a petition from Cambridge against the power of the Poor-law Commissioners to compel the appointment of Episcopal Chaplains to the unions. Sir G. SINCLAIR presae.ed petitions from Scot land, praying for the abclitioa of Church Patronage in that country. CANTERBURY ELECTION. The SPEAKER informed the House that one of the sureties on the Canterbury pc:ition was unobjectionable. POOR LAWS. Lord ELIOT gav3 notice that in Committee on the Poor-law 131', he should- move a clause that the landlords of tenements ratted under 5/. should be rated to the Poor-laws inste,d of the occupiers, and certain other clauses. Sir E. KNATCHBULL begged to ask the Noble Lord the Secretary for the Colonies, whether it was his intention to bring on the Poor-law Continuance Bill on Monday next, on which day it was fixed in the order book. If is was not meant to bring it on on that day, it would be convenient if the Noble Lord would state what day it would be discussed ? Sir J. RUSSELL -did not propose to bring it on on that day, but he would on Friday or Monday next state on what day he would proceed with the Bill. The Noble Lord was proceeling to address the House on another subject, when he was interruj tel by— Sir JAS. GRAHAM, who said it would be more convenient if the Noble Lord would answer a question which he meant to put to him in the first instance. The House woul•l recollect that in the year 1839 his Hon. and Learned Friend the Member for the Uni versity of Oxford, and an Hon. and Learned Gentleman, the Member for the city of Oxford asked the Noble Lord whither it was the intention of the Government to grant any pension to Lieutenant 111‘Cormick, of ttie Royal Navy ; and the Noble Lord stated that the Go vernment had come to no resolution on the subject. Now he found, by the Navy Estimates, which were about to be referrzd to a Committee of Supply that night, that a pension ha•i bee.) granted to Lieute nant, M'Cormick for wounds received in the set vic •. He wished to ask the Noble Lord what particular ser vice was it in which the wounds were received for which the pension was granted, what was the date of the Order in Council granting it, and whether be had any objection t 3 lay a copy of it on the table of the Houle ? Lcrd JOHN RUSSELL said that he would answer the questions of the Right Honourable Gentleman as precisely as he coon. The services on account of which Lieutenant M'Cormick had been recom mende I for a pension to the Lords of the Admiralty were performed by him under the command of the superior Colonial authorities, in the capture of the Carolire.—(Hear, bear.) That recommendation had beca made to the Lords of the Admiralty at the com mencement of the last year. With regard to the Order in Council, he was not sure of the date, but Le would have no objection to lay it before the House. REGISTRATION OF VOTERS (IRELAND.) Lord JOAN RUSSELL then rose, and said—He was about to state the inte.itions of her Majesty's Go vernment with respect to the Bid of hie Noble Friend the Chief Scerctety fu- I relerl. Ile had thought that suhj. , et I , 2leired some further rene.i;'er.tton, and t was not pi edareil on the night J I J el tip: last iliv,iott to state the itvi.,,t;olis of the tin- I the matter :gas 011 e of sO much import ance the House would allow him to explain in a few words the reasons for the motion which he was going to make to the House. The first consideration 'Ailed to the general business of the House ; and on that subject he had considered that they were tow arrived at the first day of March, and that the esti mates had not lir en yet voted, nor had the House gone into a Committee of Supply. It was impossible to say how long the discussions on going into Committee of Sunly and the debate on t';e ertimatss might occupy the time of the House. It was likewise to be con sidered that it would be very inconvenient to fix the Committee for a Bill of the nature referred to for some day on which it coul I not be conveniently brought forward, in consequence of the Estimates not having been previously iutroduced. It would likewise, continued the Noble Lord, be very inconvenient to many Members to be summoned to a very full attend ance immediately preceding Easter, when vary few would be disposed to attend the House, and when any debate in Committee could only lead to further postponement. These are considerations affrcting the general business of the House as relates to the present Bill ; but there ate other considerations relating to the Bill itself. , If I were to consider merely the di. vision which had taken I lace on Friday morning last, and the 296 Members who were present to vote against the second reading of my Noble Friend's all, I should be disposed to consider, were I to look to that circumstance alone, that the measure was one which could not in its subsequent stages obtain the assent of the House. But the discussion on that second reading would lead me to a very different con clusion. There were several Members who in swing their determination to vote against the second reading of the Bill did not dissent from what I consider the general principle on which it is founded, viz., its being advisable to endeavour to fix the franchise fir Ireland by some clear and simple method, and at the same time to amend the registra , ion laws in that country. Tier Duke of Wellington and Lord Lyndhurst had both stated in the House of Peers that they considered the rating test the best possible test of qualification under the Municipal Corporations Act. I think, there fore, that it would likewise 'Orin the best criterion of the test of the right of voting for Mem bers of Parliament. With respect, therefore, to the adopton of this general principle, I see no roe ton to delay the further consideration of this Bill; but in order to fix the amount of the franchise, it is desir li - able that there should be, before the House proceeds to further deliberation, further information as to the valuation.--(Cheers and laughter from the Opposition.) I am surprised at the feeling and sentiment which this announcement seems to create in Hon. Gentlemen op posite, because I see on the benches opposite several Hon. Gentlemen who spoke during the late discussion, aid who made it the gist of their argument that, before they could agree to the 101. test, it was absolutely necessary that they should have further information as to the valuation. 'Fberafore, when I stated that I proposed to gratify the apps tise for information, I cannot but be surprised at the manner in which that announcement was received.—(Loud cheers from the Ministerial benches.) However that may be, I think, in common with my Honourable Friend the Secre tary for Inland, that it would be desirable that we should endeavour to obtain some further information as to the manner in which the valuations have been made, so as to ascertain, at least to a great extent, the propor- Lion per cent. which the valuation bears to the real value. I do not think it will be necessary to defer the Bill to any very long time to obtain this valuation. But I think likewise that it is of the utmost importance that the House should come to a calm and &liberate consideration of the subject. I think that the forcing on the part of the Government the assent of the House to that peculiar qualification which they think best, or on the other side a peremptory and abrupt rejection of it, would be equally impottic, and with regard to a Bill like this, concerning the whole interest of Ireland, whoever bears the blame of prolonging in Ireland unnecessarily the state of excitement which at present exists there, would be deeply responsible to Ireland and the country. I do not therefore propose to delay the proceeding with this Bill beyond the period when it can be fully considered. It is of importance that it should go into Committee in sufficient time for the Bi►l to pass this Session. I should propose therefore to take the discussion in Committee in the first week after the Baiter holidays —(Murmurs on the Conservative side, and Ministe- rial cheers)—and I propose that the Order of the Day bo now read, for the purpose of its being postponed, and I should propose to postpone it till Friday, the 23d.—( Renewed murmurs.) I see the Right Hon. Gentleman, the Member for Montgomery, and some others, seem to think that an unreasonable postpone. ment, but my own opinion is, that to force on the dis cussion of this question without due consideration would disappoint the feelings of the country.—( Hear, hear.) Lord STANLEY immediately rose, and said—Sir, I must confess that I shale 1 agely in the surprise— .... (Tremendous cheering)—which has been expressed by my Hon. Friends around and behind me, at the propo sition which has been made by the Noble Lord, and the course which it is intendel tg pursue on the part of the Government.—(Renewed cheering.) Not that we do not think—for we have avowed it and declared it— that the information on which the Noble Lord in tended to proceed with his Bill was so meagre and so inconclusive as to be wholly insufficient for the founda tion of a measure of such importance—(Cheers)—not that we do not think that the information, so far as it seat in its meagreness itsel, would tend to destroy the principle and the proportions of the Bill of the Noble Lord ; but I at least do feel astonishment that upon a subject of this immense importance, when the Noble Lord himself presses upon us the importance of the greatest consideration, the greatest deliberation, and the greatest caution, at the commencement of the Session, and before any notice had been given from any quarter, her Majesty's Government should have ventured to submit to the consideration of the House a detailed proposal for a measure of this extent, involving such interests, ex citing such hopes and anxieties, and that at the expiration of one fortnight from that time, her Majesty's Government should comedown to the House and tell you that the information they had gia ea you is all the infor mation they themselves possessed.—(An ironical cry of • Hear, hear," from the Ministerial benches.) Is it not ad the information they possess ?—(Loud cheering on the Tory side of the House.) Sir, I assume that the Government in giving us the information they have furnadied would give us all that it was in their power to furnish.—( Hear, hear.) If they have not, they have deluded and deceived the House—(Loud cheers) — in calling upon Parliament to sanction a measure not only upon evidence confessedly imperfect , b u t u p on evi dence more imperfect than it was in their power to afford.--(Cheers.) But I assume they have foo talk evidence, evidence, and than I say, for a Government, a ter a • ing about the caution and deliberation necessary todobees observed upon a measure o f this sort, i t seem to me the height of rash ness to bring forward such a question, and to submit it in the form of a pro. position, to be supported by the Government upon in formation which they now tell you f:ey feel to be in sufficient to guide the decision or to sanction the vote of this House.—(Cheers.) I came down, naturally expecting that the Noble Lord, having admitted and having contended almost as strenuously as I did for the removal of the evils involved in the sys tem of registration, but feeling that there were still greater evils than that system of regist ration, namely, the uncertainty of the law, and if there ss as greater evil than that, it was the restriction tof the fra:lehile—l natura'ly concluded that the Noble Lord, having the recess to consider this matter, having con sulted with his colleagues, and having brought forward a Bill which had received the sanction of the Cabinet, and was a Government measure, would be pre pared to vindicate and defend the propositions they had avowed and put forth as the foundation, as the princi ple, and, a 3 the Right Hon. Gentleman the Secretary at War said, the very essence of the measure.—(Cheers.) And, Sir, I must not permit tho Noble Lord even to take the notice ha has done of the statements made on this side of the House without pointing out the difference in those statements. He tells us that it is admitted that the Poor-law valuation is a desirable test of the franchise. Now I tell the Noble Lord that in the sense in which it is so used by the other side of the House, it will be no such thing.—(Cheers.) Because the basis of his Bill is excluding altogether the test of the 10/. profit which was the basis and foundatiou of the mea sure which that day ten years the Noble Lord sub mitted to the consideration of Parliament. —(Cheers. ) 'Fite Noble Lord in his 811 excludes from it alto gether the valve of the test of rating, and he puts in its place that qualification which any pauper may acquire. As a test of the nett annual value of the property, the difference between it and the rent paid in the beneficial intere:t, a rate subjecting the party to taxation is a valuable check. It is important to limit the value of the franchise held, but unless the amount paid for holding was combined, it was no real test. ! came down preparel to give the Noble Lord a notice, and I shall do it now notwithstanding the course the Noble Lord has pursued ; I carne down prepared to give to the Noble Lord notice that on going into Committee—of which I ern as desirous as any one, when I shall be perfectly re idy to meet the Noble Lord—it is my intention to take the .sense of the Committee non those clausLs of the Bill relative to the W. rating franchise in counties, and the 51. household franchise in- towns, and it is my iritcation to take the sense Of the Cammittce 'Upon these two • leading clauses. I have stated to the Noble Lord the course Ishould take would mainly depend on the course taken by the Noble Lord. I give the Noble Lord credit for his ingenuity—(Cheers)—in this long postponement, thereby placing his Bill and mice at so late a period of the Session as to cause them to be defeated by the mere lapse of fine. Sir, I do not hetitate to say that I entertain are :eigpicion as to the motive which has induced the N0b1., , Lord to t Ike this stela—(l.:l r rs from the Onositioti htoelies)—and at the tie. time tit, Nol,I, Lord. in takingthiseoutst, of th , s to which he subjeets me, by endeavouring to compel me t 3 press forward the second reading of my Bill at a time when the Noble Lord would inform the House most plausibly that he has had the second reading of his Bi.l sanctioned by a small majority, and that I.e is waiting for further information et the earliest period to be laid before him.—( Hear.) Sir, I see the inge nuity of the Noble Lord'e course of proceed ing ; arid seeing the ingenuity of that course of proceeding, and giving the Noble Lord notice of the opposition which I mean to give to the two le id ing principles of his Bill, I wili not, under the sur prise which this course takea by the Government hal caused to me, as it has to my Honourable Friends around me—l will not bind myself absolutely to arty day for the discussion on the second reading of my Bill. This I will do. I will postpone the or der from this day to the 24th of March, and within tea days from the 24th of March, I will give to the Noble Lord a distinct declaration, whether, upon full consideration of all the circumstances, it is or is not my intention on that day to press forward the se cond reading of my Bill.—(Loud cheers.) On the motion of the NOBLE LORD the Order of the Day for the second reading of the Irish Registration 8.11 was then read, for the purpose of its being post poned till the 24th of March. Lord J. RUSSELL having moved the Order of the Day for going ieto Committee of Supply, Mr. HUME begged to move for the return of which he had given notice, and which he thought the more important, seeing that it was intended to move for a very large additional force in the course of the evening. The Hon. Member then moved for " An Address to her Majesty, that she will be graciously pleased to direct that there be laid before this House, copies or extracts of the Correspondence between the Secretary of State for the Foreign Department and the Governments of France, Austria, Prussia, Russie, and Turkey, since 1838, respecting the Paella of Egypt, and ;le interfe rence with the province of Syria." POST.OFFICE. Mr. GOULBURN begged to ask a question with I reference to some accourtr which had been 1 stely pre- I sented of the nett produce of Post-office revenue for the last six or seven years. It. would be necessary to make a short statement in order to render it intelligible to the House. By a return presented of the ne: amount of Post-office revenue it would appear that tl.e amount was 447,000/. which, as compared with the revenue of the Post office for the previous year exhibited a defi ciency of 1,200,000/. He had reason to apprehend that that presented altogether a fallacious vie .v of the matter, under the new system, of the Post office revenue, and the question he wished to ask the Right Hon. Gentleman was, whether that v'e at of the subject was correct in connection with the statement he was about to make. Of that 447,000/. which had been paid into the Exchequer a considerable portion was the revenue derived from official correspondence, and that, having been voted by the House, was, in fact, not a receipt of revenue, but merely a payment on the one side, and a receipt on the other. They had o❑ the table the month's officiel correspondence, which amounted to 16,0001., and it would therefore be evident to the House that the official correspondence for twelve months would mould, to nearly 200,000/., which must be deducted from 470,000/. returned as post-office revenue. But there was another great item of deduction to be made. It appeared that on the Ist of January, 1840, the unpaid balance in the hands of the two collectors of revenue amounted to little short of 200,0001., and it was quite clear that the balance in their hands, under the new system, must be as nothing compared with the former balances, and therefore a further deduction on account of these unpaid balances must be made. Having made these two deductions, the result would be that instead of 447,000/., the balance to the public credit would be little more than 40,000/. or 50,000/.—(Hear, bear.) He wished, then, to ask the Right Hon. Gentleman whether that was not a correct statement of the case, and whether the statement which he (Mr. Goulburn) made as to the loss sustained was not as he had stated it ? Tile CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that if the Right Hon. Gentleman had waited, in the course of a day or two he would have had that in formation be was so anxious to obtain. The Right Honourable Gentleman was perfectly correct in sep posing that the Exchequer returns included all the posting of official as well as private documents. With respect to the amount of 200,0001. staid by the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite, as paid for official posting under the new systrim, the sum was not so great. Tile Right Hon. Gentleman here proceeded to detail the difference in the amount of postage paid for official documents under the new system ; but he spoke in a tone so indistinct that he was quite inaudible in the gallery. SUPPLY- N AVY ESTIMATES. Mr. MORE O'FERRALL moved the Order of the Day for goity , into Committee of Supply on the Navy Estimates for 1841-2. On the motion that the Speaker do leave the Cbair, Mr. HUME said it was his intention to have sub mitted some resolutions respecting the deficit:Lt state of the revenue, as compared with the expenditure, but he thought it would be better to hear what the Gorernmer t had to ray to warrant so large an increase as was now proposed in the expenditure of the navy under the circumstances in which we were placed.—(Cries of "Hear, hear.") It was perfectly well known that for the last four years the revenue had been deficient as regarded the expenditure, in round numbers, four. millions sterling. The returns made on the mo tion, : the Hon. Member for Harwich, showed the t - irregular manner in which this deficiency hachb)eeon.i :cod vide,l for. But the point to which the attention of the House should be a half mil that their estimates exceeded by three on graduall lions those of 1836. They had gon e enotwithstandin,r; b ( e A l l 3 r d e : irect directed was country.—(llear.) Tee increasing Them s ince the distressed state o h f the revenue up to April Bth was exactly ,000/. less th's revenue up to April St wootwithstanding the increased year than it was last year, thatcont taxation. had failed or some mis take One of these things must consequently follow, either the new taxation regard to the accounts g was not possible to believe had taken place with brought ni). the whole Customs Department that in and the whole Excite department, with an addition of fire per cent., and with an addition of ten per cent. the deficiency, and not on the assessed taxes, there should he a deficiency this in order to year of 283,0001. He thought the Government ought to provideon some way adding loan y o f after supplying loan, to goprovide for t hi s great expenditure. It appeared to him the House ought to consider if there was any necessity for continuing this large expendit ure at the pre sent moment. We had secured what the Noble Lord and his colleagues had gone so madly about in Syria, for a great part of this exi ease had been incurred there, and they had been told by EV ENING _EDITION. the Queen's Speech tlier object was attained.' It clearly there ought to Lea decrease hi our exponditute, instead of which tlie7e was a co7isieerahlu increaie to be voted for our naval and nii!itiry force. He had as he had said brought down sum! resolutions to submit to the House, but it had been suggested to him it would he better to hear the Govern ment statement, and then t 3 print his resclution=', and take the sense of the House upon thav He was determined to submit his propositions to tt House, unless he heard to•nigbt some vary satisfactory reason to the contrary. Tne House then went into Committe', when • Mr. MORE O'FERRALI, rose to propose the Navy Estimates for the ensuiug year. Before, how ever, he went into these estimates he would state the balance sheet of the year ending the 31st of March, 1840. Tee excess of expenditure for that year was 29.694/. This was the first vote for which he had to move ; and it was right that he should state to the Committee the circumstances which rendered that vote necessary. (The Hon. Member was I.eard with difficulty amidst the noise of Alemhers moving from their places and the cries of " Order." Mr. Hume called out, " I nish tl e Right lion. Genfernan would speak up—we can't hear a word.—Hear.) Mr. °Ter ra!: proceeded—Previous to the year 1832, the balances of former yt ars were klt in the Exchequer and were applied by the Admiralty to such purposes as the Lords Commissioners thought proper, isad occa sionally they were made available for such emergencies as occurred last year. That was considered a great abuse ; and was strongly condemned by the Right Honourable Baronet the Member for Pembroke, inas much as the Admiralty took upon themselves to apply the money voted by Parliament to purposes different from those for which they were designed. When the Right Honourable Baronet was made First Lord of the Amoiralty he applied hirntelf to se. medy the abuse, and the Act of 1832, the Ist and 2d '.William IV. c. 40, was passed, in the 30th section of which it was provided that the balance sheet of each year should be seat in the month of November to the auditors, that they might snake upon it what cornine4 they thought fit. But the Act did not provide for the disposal of tl.,e utaepropri uteri balance ; and it became a subject of arrangement between the Treasury and the Admiralty. If ,any improper expense had been incurred by the Ad miralty, they could be brought to aceouet for it by the House, and he was ready to defend their conduct on that head. Ile first vote wets ford sun of 29,694/. excess of rxpenditto e for the se tr ending the Slst of March, 1840. That balance on a sum of 5,000,000/, would not, be thought, be considered a large one, especially' as it was impossible for any one to c, leulate precisely the t xtent of such an expenditure. The second item would be a suppliance tal vote for tile sues of 161,500/. Ile should observe, that in August, Ser tenther, and Oc tober last, gre, t (motions wets 111,LIC i.l i li our dock yards, selmen were taken frarn all the to tot-vv.?, find ,ant 0, t cry 0..• of Feet -eels et 0 time 5,11..0 vet ::;11,0:.;,:0:e to font dily to oev 1V:;.1t -I,U!' i:!erk:t.l,,i ntr. Goverronent, finchog that this was the'ease, was obliged t a increase our forces.. The Aletliterrare an fleet was incretaed, transperes were obliged to be taken up for the convey aree of reinforcements to the colonies, and the vvhule of that service had be au pet formed with at excess over the esti metes amounting only to 161,900/. Ile therelore hoped that the Government would not he considered to have acted improperly. Ile now came to the Ettimates of the present year, and he should feel under censieereble difficulty in approaehing the subject, as he vc as about to ask the Committee for at large increase, if Le did not recollect that for the last six ears, whenever the Navy Estirnatt s had been brought forward, the Governmeta hail been it inieJ fur not aski2g ennugh.—(llear, he tr.) Toe Govern meet l.ad not been ii.flienced by those attacks to cciv for more than they thought w%ls rr quired—neither would they he presorted from asking for a large increase tvtere they thought it might be necessary. In bringing forward the estimates be 5110011 cautiously absiain from the introduction of any topics whiels did not properly belong to the Estim it's, beheeing as he did that the question of th, - ! N...vy Estimates should be disett&e.l w:thuut anything 113 patty feeling, as a question which visa interesting to all men of all parties throughout the nationa--( Loud cheers.) Ile would commence by stating the siumber of ships is comtnisien. In January, 1840, the number of ships in commission amounted to 239, and in Jinuary, 1840 the ships of ell sorts in commission amouLtacl to 242 ; making an increase of tire.; only in the number of ships, although there was • a large increase in the number of men. In January, 1840, the number 0f Oman' 'em ployed, amountel to 37,165, and in January, 1841, they amounted to 43,000, being an iucrease is the number of ins n of 5,835, 1,500 el ahem villein were marines. The excess of the gross estimates this year over the estimates of lest year emounted to 7 0 9,050/. The credits in aid Loa rear amounted to 195,5001, and this year the creli•s in aid would only ae:eunt to ISS 812/., so that the total excess of this year would amount to 766,641/. He would now go into the different heads of expendi ture, and proceed to show the different pur poses for which the additional cotes were proposed. The next two votes were 3 aid 4, the klnairdty-oflici and the te4istry of merchant seamen. In tho. e there w.s a small diminution of expenditure. In Nc. 5, being the seicet;tic branch, there wa-, an increase of 4,414/., 2,146/. of v‘hich had been paid for site measurement of La Caile's arc of the meridian at the. Care. There had been also an increase of 2,2(38/. for survey expenses, charts, apparatus of the mathematical :malr at the NaVal College of Portsmouth, aid in the purchase of steam engiues, for students at the Naval Co 1.g., and the re pairs of the Observat)ry. In Nos. 6 and 7, the esta blishments at home aid abroad, there was a small in crease in the t'vo votes of 3,281/. That would be necessary for the repairs at Deptford and the steatt factory at Woolwich ; and for the additional pay to medical officers, and the es , alslishmeut of schools for the children of ma-ice'. It was also proposed to re establ:sl, the hospital at the Cape of Good Hope, the expense of which, together with the salaries of clerks and other charges at Valparaiso, would amount to 1,14 0 /. In No. 8, the increase %vas considerable. It was for the wages of artificers in the home establish ments, number was aP o n p i ii e c n af s )l , 3 an t d o tahmeoupnat3emdentto of 46,78 L ; l l, the 4 increased sh'.pwrights in the yard ; 12, 0001 . for piece - work and full pay ; 10,000/. for civil establishments ; and 13,584/. for the increase of teamo hoyo &c. He did not know whether it was the wish of the Committee that he should state what these wells were, but tire was one which Ise felt it necessary to call the attention of the House to, be meant the sum of money expended at Woolwich. With reset to the works at Wool wich, the Wet Dock would be completed next year, for which a sum of 1 5,0 00 /. would be re q ui i ed. At Sheerness the usual suns of 500/. would be required ; and at Chatham 4,000/. would be required for pre venting the accumulation of sand its the river. At Portsmouth 4,000/. would be required for the sea wall, and 6,000/. hart been expended on the wall that had been destroyed by the late storm. At Plymouth tl.e new dock was in a state of great fort' artiness, and furnaces for new fires had been erected. No estimate bad been made of the damage that had occurred by the late fire, but the amount of the value of the vessels destroyed was 38,0001., but it would take 91,000/. to ierlace them. At Bridgewater 'a sum of 15,000/. would 'be required this year ; and at Pirmouth it - would recitti!e 175,000/. to complete the breakwater. At ,PestibsOse. the works that la I been commenced were'in-togfeat state of forwardness ; and a matter of 10,C00/. wout, be re4uired for the construction of a dock. -NeWo'fcrtsz tracts had been entered into for the f conveyance niia _ ax to mails from Liverpool to Halifax, and _T u o n t o, lit the West Bermuda ; from Bermuda to Nclafir :a n . d atiOg gone Indies and England, and for the year was l o c : r iT e x d t k i :e . nd ore ti.e result t a h a r s o , ug t l i i i a t th t e h e d i n ff e : l r t ent hog's b n e e e c n ess n t i y ade by sum c i r i ; t , ' a ppear large to the 6,614,157/. This sum m e l ota ikase y, but when they Honourable Member fortt; which other nations, tirY sa i a ss t panditure. He v i rould''Ooa. there was for expressingP.-1.l•g': a' hope thst the late' brilliant recoil cued the efforwtsticid elude with inwhich the. navy had so signally events in the E •s sechatile 'entirely disprovel if haul e the state istiguished itre. • o made reference to the low stet -hich -bad oec mentsss e , Assertions had Leen ma )e, notin ° of th c of that the onlythe • but out. navy had degenerated. House, He well a yeac itecteu the blame th a t was cast upon the • Board of Admiralty. It was said that they had neg lected their duty, and that in their hands the Y of .th iS c ountry had charges dwindled. A ga i nst such the late events afforded a much bette r d e f ence than coy which could be made by the Admiralty, He did not el tins for them any grace for having sent out one of ..the most efficient fleets that had ever come into action ; all he asked was that the House anl the country would do them justice, and acknowledge that thee had .not been unminEul of their duty. The Hon. Member concluded by moving that a sum not exceeding 29,6941. he granted to her Majesty for defraying the excess of mipeaditure for the year ending March 31, 1840. Sir GEORGE CLERK regretted that be had not paid more attention to the statements. of the Right Hon. Ceatlernan—( Hear,' hear) —because no more important subject could come under the consiateration of the House and the country than the estimates-now before it, more especially a s they were called upon to snake good the deficiency of former cstitr.v es, acrd when there was about to be submitted to the Committe e estimates considerably exceeding in amount any that had been brought before the House for the last t,venty years—(Hear,hear)—when they must be considered a not as in sta te of peace, but as if wi n di ng u p th e accounts after a state of war.—(Hear, hear.) tic proposed .to confine his observations before the C am m:ttce to the vete now before it, and one 'of a preciitly similar rature which followed it, with regard to a deficiency in former estimates. He was precluded from going into any general observations on the esti-