The Sun. — London, England, 1841-01-28 00:00:00

EVENING EDITION. iONDON AND BRIGHTON RAIL. WAY.-(YESTERDAY.) 1f -yearly meet i ng of the Directors and Pr prietors o f o the London and Brighton Railway Company tookplace yesterd ay at t h e London Tavern, Bishopsgate street. There was a numerous body of Shareholders Present. The hal At one o'clock the chair was taken by JOHN HAR the s 14 "1 N.. Chairman of the Board of Dire c to rs , an d Secretary read th e a d vert i sement ca lli ng t h e meet i ng . The CHAIRMAN said the proc ee di ngs o f th eir h a lf - Y ea rly general meeting naturally partook of more in terest as the works in which they were engaged pro gressed towards completion. It would be his duty Presently to call their attention to the Report of d Directors, a document drawn up with great care ;411 Directors, with a view to furnish them with every t-uformation with regard to the carrying out of the und "teklag to its present point. By that Report it woul i 0 seen that since the last general meeting the D - rect ors _a hem not been idle, and when he now told the m h that there would be a further capital required to finis i tile orks, he had the pleasure or adding that the D - any did not intend to call upon the Shareholders for -41 Inure Money. At t h at perio d of t h e proceed i ngs it I taald not be necessa-ry for him to go into further detail , n t atil the t!. Report had been read to them ;he should ra e-teteseek an oPportvnity later in the day to explain any rs connected with the Report, and to answer any ettestions that might be put to him. tots,The SEennTABY then read the Report of the Dirac frem which it appe ared that— Drt/r" The Works on tha etire Line had been carried on with ' e nd were in an exceedingly forward state, nnel . the ns of "tars were enablerl to con fi rm their former anticipatt i o id. a atZ Pi t 13 ,F the Line to Hayward's-heath not later than II . Putm a n , t, (tad throughout to Brighton in the ensuing o,_ es beetrearril Fl ed opening of the Shoreham Branch there have trallc i s ad o pening it 123,436 passengers. The goods ne xt th e i l t re° 9l on the increase ; and by the end.o . f March freak wh. L ati an at Brighton will be ready to re , ceivecoals, A Co rn „ le `i the Directors expect a considerab le revanue : railrealrenY has been formed for the purpose of mak ing a . and ttip n," 4 Wor th ing, to join the ShorAirn 13ranel d i , fa the -4.'irectors believe that an application will be made lenW.nest B essio n of Parliament for will to make - Port and 4 theY confidently hope it will meet wi . t n ht t Li e e s i z e. • se ek co operation of all persons intereste d I I*: the London and Brighton Railway, to which it must w:a,Lmost advan'iageous auxiliary." ter..." tespeet to the station at the London-bridge wants, the Report stated— et" At b the Le last fleeting , the Directors adverted to the f state stated— et-..0 preeeenin s before Parliament on the subject i o nate h d 4 1 41 ; 3 , at Lon do g n.brid ge . These proceedings term to co: H yin g Powers to the Greenwich Railway Compaonfythe met two additional lines of rails to the south Present j• the C roydo n mo from London-bridge to Corbett:a-lane, where lit, Was diverges from the Greenwich Rai l way; au_tho - " a 3 411 0 given to the Greenwich and Croydon Corn . !Z i ts to x b e -c -aage stations, and the latter Company o di ); a t Act of the same Session, empow ered, sooth i tSterri i3 COn jtleetioll with the Brighton and .. to Itttie'"e. ' or alone, to procure an a ddi t i ona l space for a Ap beyond that which th e G reenw i c h Company D iteride 7°4 h ave in exch ange f or the Croydon station ; t . is he considered it advisable, in accordance with the 6"er given at the last meeting, to co-o . perate with ' th ese r° • deu and South- Eastern Companies in effectin g la 14: b .lects ; and the have for some time been engag ed ofe4 r ing the necessa r y arrangements. Three mem bers d s tree ine a ti r b rd have me t weekly on the . subject, and an a t n o -me et, , r ,,_ as been entered into for carrying them in t oyer; 4 Elle L A, suostance of the agreement is, tha t . a station 'erne , 11 4 t he present Greenwich Railway station, with Pose s h er - ground adjoining, and sufficient for the pur pmie of the So uth-Eastern, Brighton, and Croydon Corn ; of t h_ ll ) es a City terminus, shall be built at the joint cos t onlyl.2tell..re_e .Companies, by which this Company will n? cleat st a tic ..re to itself the advantages , of agood . and sufh at o ne. ,,n at one-third of the cost of ma k ing it, but also bale, 1 : u j i d of the cost of maintaining and managing the teet ed. ,; 4l their it will he fully represented and pro kr. G po s orlitri oiti ostion:),lD wished to offer an explanation . rela tive _ which had been made to him in the Ke- Ch al °lie of the Directors, in having filed a Bill in e acera . proceedings lao t k , against the Company. These . P sho w , ee,ter have been instituted if the Directors had whiel;,,that disposition for an amicable arrangement bad ~.° 93 1 took credit for. He complained that they 14.0 •a, ese P a `` h im justice, and when an arbitration was liod - ,°, 8e .) the Directors, he was given to understand, c ad „:"Itted that it was their intention to avail themselves tlie r ,: r Y legal and technical objection. He was justified, te ° re, in saying that they had shown no dispositio terkitl° an amicable settlement, although he stili en n t hat tt,"' a hope th at suc h wou ld b e b rought about, and A° a l differences between himself and the Company 1 .1 ) ( 1 1 be satisfactorily arranged. Ao4i t i e c IlArltitAN said they must all admit that his i l le wo ° e r l d eit t he present occasion was a painful one, but 'melt. d re he that every disposition consistently with . sell' a JtY to the Shareholders had been shown by him e, " a .,7 his brother Directors to meet the wishes o f G H e could not, however, allow the eam r -l ad e 9t of Mr. Goldsmid to go forth without some il liel ieti cm, and should therefore call upon their tiedif-a-La s olicitor to state how the case really stood ; hi Protect ` Proprietors thought they had been too guarded to taasing their interests, the Directors would bow tir".°Pinons of the meeting. gim e r , 11,1atioensox objected to any discussion taking to 4 -4 tne subject, more especially as it could not lead leevell satisfactory result. He thought it better to Sad the Matter to the good feeling of Mr. Golds i n° a.. mr. staireeters. sfford I.°IIEY thought an opportunity should be gA i n. e . cl the Directors of vindicating their conduc t s e w:" the charges brought against them by Mr. Gol re.. ev 01 1 d if c he was rightly informed, Mr. Goldsmid had h im li " 3 " th;= land that had been purchased from Ir' t uPle what it would fetch in the market. lle eoeueltAtitstax begged to interrupt the speaker, and l ein e ,; l ',uot allow him to proceed until he had ascehre stitieetWnat the sense of the meeting was upon t he 1 A pp, yoga-sit'alrroa said they had other very important ap e _ '7 B tO transact, and if the discussion was entered iv ,u p it c.ar , uld keep them there till midnight. t „,,, oTop t ., I (t/I Kiln "-" begged to remind the meeting that their f e.o g counsel was the son of the Hon. G ent leman_ t litl i tb°ld!olid) who had made these statements,.. an d !list th e loglaest opinion of the honour and integrity o f is W tentl eman . he thought there were natural fee l - the etillan would prevent his acting for the interests of 1 .. .Pally. hi k i du CHAIRMAN said Mr. Goldsmid, their counsel, As ij el ined to accept any retainer in the present case. tveyl(ll'. Goldsmid had sent forth a printed statement it 41 eht e f Pe , rh aPa. be desirable to hear the counter state kr t h eir solicitor, Mr. Faithful. %kit e "". RENNIE thought they ought to hear the sahjec‘r B,taternent of Mr. Faithful, and then have the Aft' uroPped altogether. ar ea a gree som e A , discussion the question was put, and it i ktej,, L , e ', l almost unanimously that Mr. Faithful's Air:V su nuld be heard. Whi ch .- Arrurer. then entered into a statement, from i t rOSid i „ t a aPPeared that in the Act of Parliament it was snahp.-: th at a station should be made on Mr. Gold- Ile d 'e r ,, ° , l) ; ;ttY for the Shoreham branch. The site ag „ - "Y of land, and the price to be paid was redGolcm. and the money ultimately paid to him. coal t,..."'111id subsequently stated that the taking of the Perty . " 4 "° to the station would be prejudicial to his pro sette:,;.4nd the Committee to whom he made that reprc- Q01(1 I" r ecommended the Directors to agree to Mr. itsee-8119's request, which they agreed to. A convey bia.), or the land was afterwards prepared in the ordi psey.waY, but Mr. Goldsmid's solicitor w ished to have a th e 1110 inserted td prohibit the passing of coals along co,: c ad, or in the event of such being done, that the course siC tl ant should be void. That was o f . cou th'; e ted to ; the result was the institution o f I:I4e p r oceedings. All the concessions which the . ad tee trs had made to Mr. Goldsmid were taken Sa v 4 2 :lt age of, but the Directors were to have no . 1 skijiltilge whatever,while 1.1 Go ldsmid could, if his I r. rho r was accomplished, stop up the entire traffic on 1 P 4 , 1 .1 4% After entering into some further details, Mr. 4:•:_ful concluded by hoping that the Proprietors would is ter `uat the object of the Directors was to protect their M eats, and that they would confirm their acts. akeV. GOLDsmiD said there were many statements to e hY Mr. Faithful which he could prove to be h ot Pbletely erroneous, and he would add, that if it had laa re Z 1 f . o r Mr. Faithful's advice the matter would k g since been adjusted. Per t :* a• J. WHALLEY moved the adoption of the Re a° C° w hich he did with great pleasure. He believed itu 4) PeoY had been subjected to so much abuse and DatlPeration as theirs, but he believed that no Com• in l e h ,a.d had its affairs conducted with so much talent tieing4ulitY. and he had no doubt of the undertaking I ultimately, highly remunerative to the Proprietors. s "' II L NTh e • • SdIAIL seconded the motion. xt Cusattstast, in answer - to questions from Mr. eNtiples andothers, explained that about 400,000/. would atilt'2e the line, instead of 600,000/., as was estimated last half -yearly meeting. They intended to have is ; Y'two engines and about eighty carriages at start be h a an d if more were required, the Directors would ii i PPY to order them. %rri e ' 2 tnntion for the adoption of the Report was then The uoanimously. thee reel fiv Directors, who went out by rotation, were up,;;A ected without opositi rwsielution for the fo p rfeitur e on. of five or si x s h ares Pested.uteh the calls had not been paid up was then Aft er . "tared ortue f urther r ou ti ne b us i ness had been dis eetorSs aod, the ' th"ks were voted to the Chairman and meeting separated. I,hia ~ ATHYR •TYD T IRON TRADE. totllting-..tPhortitit trade has been i n n E a most depressed state, Natio e greater Portion of the past year, which &- % 4 COrltinUed to its er , close. T_►:c new ycar h:lc! P I'L 74 ' oPocad • tn.! deru arid ic : with a sudden and decided hp pro ef i ra rn e r d i t. tiZe itt ( tn tt e b risk, and l:r~„ 84'es have bN. o .. ,a . j 14 1 " 1 Of w l ,nee of Ss. to l ' Os. per ton, the preseut qt.o -.son 40 14'f lui 48 . on shipment being 71 10a per ton.—. 11 4 ,. , (gn. , q 4` THE AMERICAN NAVY. (From the United Service Gazelle.) We have been favoured by a valued Correspondent at Portsmouth, to whom we were indebted some time ago for a table of the armaments of all the vessels of war in the British navy, for the following interesting account of the dimensions and armaments of the various classes of ships in the American navy, derived from an Gffieial source. It has been the fashion of late, among writers on nautical subjects, to contrast our own ships of war with those of America, and to assign the superiority in point of- dimension and armament to the vessels of the letter. We have, indeed, been ourselves misled by more than one of our correspon dents into the publication of statements to this effect , and, as all honest and conscientious writers ought to do—profiting by 'the opportunity which the publication of the undermehtioned data affords us—we acknow ledge with cheerfulness and alacrity our misapprohen sion. From the dimensions hereafter given, it will be seen that we are not only equal in most, but greatly superior in toady points, and so far as our more re cently constructed ships . are concerned, more especi ally ; every class of which are much finer than those of the same classes in the American navy, carrying heavier armaments with infinitely more convenient quarters, more space between decks, and guns much higher from the water. The first-class line of battle ships, as Ohio, &c., are or were evidently designed from Our 84's, Gwgcs class, with the addition of two feet more beam, thus consi derably increasing their tonnage ; but, either from some injudicious alterations or ba - il model, they have not proved the ships they ought to have been, carrying their lower deck midship ports only feet 6 inches from the water, whereas our 84's carry theirs 6 feet 2 inches, and Vanguard 7 feet. The tonnage of these ships is 2,600, the same as our 92's, Rodey class, within a few tons; but their dimensions are the same as the 120's, and they carry their lower deck mid ports 7 feet from the water, and aro evidently a su perior description of ship to American two. deckers. The armament of the latter is very heavy, having 42-pounders on their lower decks, and carrying guns on their upper :leeks all through ; making three en tire tiers ; perhaps their armament is too heavy— give our 92's guns in waist, and they would then mount 100 -. but g Yilling ,up _ the waist is a very ques lientitre coarse. and one to which re decidedly object. The second-class line-of-battle ships, of which there are but three; are fine vessels, about the size of our 80's, as Indus, Bellerophon, but with one foot more beam, making them about 100 tons larger. These ships also have guns all through on their upper decks, but from some cause (perhaps being overweighted) carry their lover deck ports only 5 feet from the water, being 4 inches less than our old 74's, and 1 foot lower than the Bellerophon. The first-class frigates are fine vessels, about the size of our razees, but with 2 feet less beam, and therefore inferior, also carrying their main-deck midship ports 1 foot 3 inches lower than our razees ; these ships are ail double banked, and have carronadcs on the upper deck. There are but two second-class frigates in the American navy ; Macedonian, captured from us during the late war, and Constellation, one of their earliest ; both these are rated 36's, carrying about 46 or 50 guns, and arc about the size of our Blonde ; both very inferior to the Pique and her class. The first-class sloops of war of the United States are neither so large nor so powerful as our razees, such as the Magicicnne, but they are larger than our other corvettes in point of armament and force. Again, they are vastly inferior as fighting vessels to oar new 26's, like the Vestal, which carry long 32's and two 68's. The American corvettes are, moreover, heavy sailers, and carry their midports 1 foot 4 inches lower than the Vestal and her class, so that their whole battery is exposed to a vast disadvantage. Indeed, our new 26's are superior to any foreign corvettes in the world. The second-class of American corvettes are nearly similar to our Pearl and Tweed, of 20 guns. There is nothing between them and schooners. The Americans have no sloops of war brig-rigged—their small sloops carry 16 guns, but are ships. The American schooners are very inferior in every respect to our new 10-gun brigs, as Pantaloon, Rapid, &c., heir g upwards of 100 tons inferior in hurdler), also in length and breadth, and their ports more than a foot lower in water ; their height between decks also less by nearly two feet. They are, in fact, hardly equal to our old 10 gun brigs. The first-class war steamers building will, doubtless, be noble vessels ; very much larger than any we have, being 30 feet longer than the Cyclops, 4 feet more beam, and 600 tons more burthen ; they will, doubt less, be very heavily armed, perhaps carrying 30 or 40 guns. These arc the only two steamers the Americans have in their navy ; but although in this branch we are far ahead of them, having at least 20 to their two, still we should at once lay down some five or six of an equal size. It is not a little odd that the dimensions of these two American war steamers are as nearly as pos sible the same as the steamer by Captain Hendrie, R.N. To conclude, we have nothing to fear from the Americans, come a contest when it may. With our ships properly armed and fully manned, we may defy them and the world. CATOR, THE FRENCH PILOT. The following is a brief outline, from the Bou lonnaise, of this remarkable man, who was drowned some days ago at the mouth of Boulogne har bour by the upsetting of the boat with the mail : Delpicrre, generally called Cater, was born in 1787. He followed the profession of his father. His courage, tact, and prudence recommended him to the command of the privateer Itancunier. On the 2d of December, 1811, aided by three other privateers, he attacked the English cutter Olympia, of 14 guns and 75 men. After a bloody and hard fight the cutter was taken. Such a prize entitled him to the cross of the Legion of Honour. But his father was in priscn con demned to death, the Boulonnaise says, for some parti cipation in the affair of Moreau ; others say for assist ing emigrants to escape, and returning with others who were looked upon as spies. Whatever the cause, Cator offered his honour and his prize for his father's liberty. The Government accepted them n December'lB2l he saved the crew of the Aimable Rose, for which the Minister made him a pecuniary donation. In 1829 he did a similar service to the crew of a fishing boat that would have been lost at the en trance to the harbour. In 1830 whilst walking on the jetty, he heard screams proceeding from the middle of the harbour ; lie flew to the spot, saw a child struggling in the water, instantly dashed in and brought it safe to land, when he discovered it was his own child ! He obtained that year a silver medal. In 1831 be obtained another, 30 fr. from the Minister and 50 from the Humane Society for saving the lives of several pe, sons. In June 1832 Cator and four men were at sea in his boat, when a violent tempest coming on, the boat was capsized and the whole at the mercy of the waves. Three men perished, one struggled against his fate with Cater, who, with that admirable generosity for which he was at all times distinguished, seeing that his com panion was neither so good a swimmer nor so cool as himself, ceded to him the oar with which he was aiding his own efforts for life, and struck away for the shore, Fortunately a boat came to their assistance, and both were saved. Two days afterwards Cater rescued from the harbour young Delande, who was near perishing. In December of the same year he received the decora tion of Chevalier of the Legion of Honour, and the In stitute testified its approbation of his private life by a donation of 1,000 francs. Among his virtues were goodness of heart, mildness and affability of manners, the utmost simplicity, kindliness of disposition and love and affection for his parents. Cator had a large family to support, bet the yearnings of his youth to rescue his father from prison, and to sacrifice wealth and honour to his happiness, showed equal strength and love when his wife and children surrounded him ; his father was old and required attention. Cator had him in his own house, that he himself might see that nothing was want ing to his.comfort and happiness. Such is a faint outline of the pilot's life, whose death we all so much regret ; a life usefully spent for himself and his country ; a life that we would humbly recom mend the Institute to have fully detailed, printed and circulated, as an incentive to all in the same sphere of life to do likewise, be respected and rewarded. Such a life would be more useful to the State than twenty lives of conquerors and ravagers of the earth. DREADFUL ACCIDENT.--EGIIAM, JAN. 26. —Yesterday morning a dreadful accident occurred to a lad named Keen, the servant of C. Clarke, Esq., of this town, in consequence of the accidental discharge of a double-barreled gun, loaded with No. 1. shot, the contents of which entered his right arm, just below the elbow, shattering it in a most horrid manner, and lodging between the elbow and the wrist. The sufferer (accompanied by his master) proceeded to the London University Hospital, in Gower-street, where, upon his arrival, amputation of the arm, from above the elbow, was performed by Mr. Liston. PRESBYTERY OF STRATIIBOGIE.—On Thurs day !rut Mr. Edwards was ordained minister of the parish of Marnoch, by the seven suspended clergymen, agreeably to a decision of the Court of Session, and in defiance of the General Assembly. The scene on the occasion was most riotous and disorderly. When the Moderator ap peared in the pulpit, for the purfose of preaching the cus tomary sermon previous to the induction, snow-halls, pieces of e ood torn from the seats, and missiles of various de scriptions were hurled at the Presbytery from the gallery, and for nearly two hours nothing could be done. At length, through the intervention of the police, order was restored, and the remaining proceedings were gone through without interruption. How far exhibitions of this description will forward the schemes of the non-intrusionists will be seen in due time. RESPITE FOR THE CONVICT AI 4 RAE.---We understand that a respite has been sent north, to Inverness, of the sentence of death lately pronounced by the High Court of Justiciary, Edinburgh, on Alexander Willie, late farmer arid ;•attle--Inler, for ram Tl:c respite, we arc Gold, is granted for nn unli.nif.d period,—Editibitryh Sir Hugh Palliser, 13..)tt., and Mrs. Lockhart are still residing at Castletown House, county of Wexford but intend returning shortly to England. SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS FROM THY DAILY PAPERS OF YESTERDAY. (From the Globe.) We have been long accustomed to read in the jour nals of Opposition—whether Whigs or Tories occupied the benches on the left hand of the Speaker—that the last Royal Speech at the opening or prorogation of Par liament was the worst of all Royal Speeches which had preceded it. We expected, of course, a repetition of the usual depreciatory and condemnatory remarks in the Tory journals of this morning on the Speech from the Throne with which Parliament was yesterday opened, and we have not been disappointed. The Speech, however, is in the hands of the public, and will, we apprehend, be judged of on its own merits by those capable of judging, irrespective of the corn :ncndations of journals which support the general policy of Ministers, and the vituperations of those who em ploy their powers in assailing and condemning it. If the document so unmercifully assailed were really as rich in defects as is asserted of it, how is it that in neither House—although the Tories possess a decided majority in one, and a powerful minority in the other-- how is it, we ask, if the Speech were really deficient in some and erroneous in its other topics—that the Tories did not move an amendment en the Address, which was an echo of the Speech, and thus manifest to the country their superior acquaintance with its foreign relations—its colonial dependencies—and its domestic condition ? That the Tories are exceedingly desirous of exhibiting their superior capabilities of government, will not be doubted. That a successful onslaught on the Ministry at the very opening of the Session, and on the Address to the Throne, in reply to the Speech of the Queen—which we are again and again re minded, is the composition of her Ministers—would have been seized on by their hungry partisans as a realization of their hopes, as the fulfilment of their con fident predictions, uttered in every form of language during the recess, cannot be denied. And yet they suffered the golden opportuaity to pass by Tile Mi nisterial answer to the worst of all Royal Speeches was suffered to pass in both Houses nem, con. ; and the duty of declaiming against it, and amending it, is consigned to the journals of Opposition, instead of being performed by the Duke of Wellington and Sir Robert Peel, backed by Oe gtpvir tkey command in their respective Houses ! - •A Speech flora the Throne, which, we are assured by the Post, is " but a mockery of the public and an insult to Parlisment,"—on which the Herald employs upwards.of a column in denouncing its sins of omission and of commission—exhibiting what it is, and what it ought to have been, in that peculiar style which pertains to its Heraldic wisdom—was al lowed to go forth stamped, by implication, with the ap probation of her Majesty's opposition in both Houses ! No wonder that the Tories shake their heads, and talk of a " coalition," with such indications of tacit assent on the part of their leaders to the course pursued by the Government! (From the Standard ) The sessional Speech has been already in the hands of our readers, who have for themselves observed its utter inanity, beyond even the al!owed license of such addresses in saying nothing. This Speech is distin guished from all that went before it in the omission of even allusion to the important topics of public interest ; it not merely guards against any avowal of opinion upon such subjects—it evades even a mention of the subject. This is a necessary result of the anomalous and un precedented position of a Ministry, holding office without the possession of any substantive power whatever ; dependent now upon Conservative support, now upon the aid of the Radicals, it is compelled to steer a course which will not commit it absolutely against either party, and such a course requires that it keep clear of every great question. Conscious that it can do nothing of itself, it must be careful to say or hint nothing of its proposed lice of action. The two most urgent subjects of consideration at this time—the relations of the country with France, and the repeal sedition in Ireland—these two subjects, for which every man would anxiously look, in the very fist instance, for infor mation in the so-called Royal Speech, are wholly omitted—omitted under circumstances when the omis sion may be productive of the niost serious conse quences. The natural tendency of the. neglect of France must be to exasperate the jealousy; of the sensi tive and high-spirited people of that country ; the silence on the subject of the repeal sedition cannot fail to afford encouragement to the repeal traitors. The intimation of law reform would be the one commendable passage of the Speech, had we not had so many intiatations of the same kind, to give assurance that that paragraph is introduced without any purpose of acting upon its promise, and only to help out the length of the Speech. The debates which arose upon the motion for the answering Address, amply compensated the mea greness of the Speech, at least as far as the question of our relations with France is concerned. Here the Conservatives were exhibited in their true place, as the actual government of the country, the guardians of its interests and honour, and the protectors of the peace of Europe. It is not only in domestic affairs that Sir Robert Peel and his friends now exercise the primary authority. They, and they only, main tain our military and naval establishments at the point necessary for public safety—they, from the floor of the Houses of Parliament, are the efficient diploma tists for preserving Europe in peace. SPORTING INTELLIG6NCE. MANCHESTER-TUESDAY EVENING. There was a very good attendance this morning; but so little business was done, that we only need give the ful lowing quotations : THE RIDDLESWORTIT. —Not named. THE CHESTER CUP, P. P.—(Accept !or not.) 7i to 1 agst Mr. Ridsdalc's Bloomsbury—off 14 to 1 agst Col. Cradock's Gallipot 20 to 1 agst Mr. T. Walter's Sir George 20 to 1 agst any other 100 to 3 art Mr. Price's Tuley 100 to 2 agst Col. Peel's Gibraltar HO to 1 agst Lord Westminster's Maroon Offers to back the field v 8, take 10. The grand magnet was Bloomsbury, next to him the Irish division. Re triever would have been backed in hundreds at 20 to 1, but the layers " hold hard." TilE SUN, LONDON. THURSDA Y, JANUARY 28, 1841. STATE OF TRADE. (From the Manchester Guardian.) There was very little demand on the Exchange yester day, either for yarn or goods; and the business done was limited, though, so far as we could learn, without altera tion in prices. The ecuntry trade is, however, we believe, tolerably good. RuCIIDALE FLANNEL MARKET, JAN. 25. —T0-day there has been the best market we have had this year. The de mand for goods has been very fair, with a rather nume rous attendance of buyers ; but no improvement has taken place in prices. The prospect of a long and severe winter has generally some influence upon the Flannel Market. There is no change in the Wool Market, either in prices or quantity of business done. • HUDDERSFIELD MARKET, JAN. 26.—The aspect of this market was decidedly favourable, there being many buyers, and desirable goods changed hands freely at fair prices. The demand h principally in low and middle qualities of plain and fancy woollens, light checks, and other fancy goods. In short, there is considerable buoyancy, with every prospect of an advance of prices. Stocks are comparatively small, and the operatives arc generally employed. More activity prevails in the ware houses. Wools are firm. THE " COLUMBIA," ROYAL MAIL STEAMER.—By the Liverpool letter of yesterday, posted on 'Change, we learn that the Columbia steamer, from Liverpool to Halifax, Nova Scotia, was spoken on the 12th inst. in lat. 47 deg., long. 28 deg., with engines partially damaged, and going about four knots aft hour; the wind being N. E . STATE OF THE WEATuEa.-January 22, fair; rain at night.-23, fine all day; rain and frost during the night.-24, fine and frosty.-25, fine and frosty morning; rain at night. SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE. (LLOYD'S.) LONDON, JAN. 27.—Wind this day at noon, moderate wes terly breezes, with passing clouds. DOVER, JAN. 21.—Arrived off the Trivolium, Kuhl, from Baltimore. LivEaroot, JAN. 26.—Wind W., moderate.—Arrived the Echo, Wood, from New Orleans; Stephen Baldwin, Glidden, ditto ; Monument, Chase, ditto ; Walter, Boyd, ditto ; Sidney, Gowcrn, ditto; Benjamin Morgan, Johnstone, Charleston, with loss of bowsprit, and cutwater damaged, &c., having been in contact with a steamer this morning in Rock Channel ; Leander, St. John's, New Brunswick ; Avon, ditto. Sailed the Alorzo, Wellertori, for Rio Jane:ro ; l'arthenon, Woodbury, New Or leans. Off port, the Birkley, from MI ica. The Active, hence to Lisbon, was fallen in with on the 23d of November, in the Bay of Biscay, a derelict, by the Danish barque, Jo hanna Maria, from Copenhagen, and taken in tow by her till off Madeira, and then a crew put on board of her to take her to one of the Danish islands in the West Indies ; part of her cargo was taken out by the Johanna Maria, and landed at Ma deira. MARYPORT, JAN. 25. —The sloop Sarah and Jane, Oli phant, sailed hence on Friday, and was seen to go down near Salterness Lighthouse ; crew suKosed to be drowned. Some wrecks of masts, rigging, &c., of a scho oner h ave come on shore near Allonby. Coat:, JAN. !it —Arrived the Rapid, Mackie, from Rio Grande ; Kathleen, Sparks, Windsor, Nova Scotia. Off Port Atlantic, James, Pictou. The Rapid spoke on 12th inst. in lat. 47, lon. 28, the Acadia, bound to Halifax ; her engines were partially damaged, and she was going not more than aboat four knots. Wind at N.E. NEWCASTLE, JAN. 23.—The schooner Sportsman, of Perth, on entering the harbour yesterday got on the Herd Sand crew saved. SALCOMBI, JAN. 26.—Arrived off, the Sir E. Hamilton, Lundy, from New York ; Helen Herwell, Noria, Mogadore. HARWICH, JAN. 26.—The Merchant, Spark, of Sunder. land has been towed in here to-day, abandoned, and with five feet water in her hold, having been assisted off the Gunfieet Sand. DITCHLEY HALL, OXON.—Sir Frederick Johnstone Bart., and Lady Louisa Johnstone, arrived on Friday last from Coombe Abbey, the seat of Earl Craven. The Dowager Countess Craven, and Earl and Countess Craven. .arrived on Monday, on a visit to Sir Frederick and Lady Louisa, who rcecive a lE, , Yge pat - ;y at the thil during tLe. vat:;:k. _ _ We nude! stand that the Marquis of Lothian has just made a purchase of the estate of Ormistou for the sum of 35,0001,-,.. Caledonian Mercury. EXECUTION OF TWO ABORI- GINAL NATIVES. The warrant for the execution of the two natives, Doodjeep and Barrabong, having received the signature of his Excellency Governor Hutt, the Sheriff, G. F. , Stone, Esq., proceeded to carry the sentence into effect. The culprits were placed in a cart, to which they were chained, and the party, with a suitable escort, reached Guildford about one o'clock on Tuesday, 7th instant. On their being placed in the cart at the prison door, Perth, they evinced no signs of fear, but took the whole proceedings very quietly, depending, as it was supposed, upon a chance of rescue, or that some slight punishment would be inflicted upon therm at York, and they would be again set at large. Indeed they begged to be flogged, and promised never to commit a like offence ; a promise little to he depended upon, and a punishment (if it had been possible to have remitted the sentence) unequal to the just retribution their hi inous offences imperatively called for. They exhibited no signs of fear or alarm until after they had passed their own hunting grounds, about three miles on the other side of the half-way house ; indeed it was not visibly indicated until they arrived at York ; their minds being evidently impressed with a belief that they would be rescued on their own grounds by their tribe. At the half• way house it was observed that Bar rabong trembled considerably, but it was thought this arose from the spot being the scene of the murder of Murphy some years back, in which he was a principal. An unloaded gun and two pistols were placed in the cart, which by the most ingenious devices, by endeavour ing to draw off the attention of the party, they made re peated attempts to sciz,. In the sequel of our narra tive it will be seen one man got hold of the gun, and excited some natives to offer some show of re sistance. On the morning of the II th the party, with an additional escort of six rank and file, and one ssrjeant, proceeded to the place of execution, about ten miles to the southward of York. After travelling a few miles, six natives made their appearance, well armed with glass spears. They were allowed to ap proach near enough to the cart to enter into a conversa tion with the culprits ; and, in this instance, the absence of an interpreter was seriously felt. The animated conversation which ensued, the savage and revenge ful expression depicted in the- - countenances of the two culprits, coupled with the seizure of a gun by one of them, lying at the back of the cart, excited the natives who had jeined them to ship their spears, and they were alone repulsed by the resolute conduct of the military. The guns of the escort were instantly raised, and the natives skulked away into the bush, but repaired to the sqveral adjoining hills, and, by lighting their signal fires, communicated to the neighbouring tribes an unusual event, and spread the sign of alarm. No re sistance was, however, offered, although it was behaved many natives ware spectators of the scene. About. twenty-four Europeans were present, and many of the settlers in the neighbourhood witnessed the execution, which we may briefly describe. When the party arrived at the spot where the mur der was perpetrated—the place of execution—the de linquents were observed to turn their heads from the only remaining vestige of their devastation, a small chim ney which stood as a monument of the violent outrage they had committed. Here all hope of escape seemed to fail them. The younger of the two prisoners met his end with a dogged and a determined spirit, as it ap peared, of revenge ; the only intelligible expressions made use of conveyed an impression that ho would rise up a " white fellow," which it was considered strengthened his resolution. The elder man, when he found all hope of escape fail him, and the cap was drawn over his eyes, fainted ; a nd it was with mudh difficulty he could be made to rise, until the operations of the executioners (after the sheriff had read the warrant for the execution) launched them into eternity. The horror of being hung was sensibly felt, and they repeatedly asked to be shot or speared ; and such was their savage spirit of revenge, that, up to the short period before the execution, they were understood to express a desire to flog three friendly natives, who accompanied the escort, for daring to come there. Notwithstanding the justice of the sentence is fully acknowledged, some doubts arc enter tained of the effect a public execution will have upon the aborigines generally. Whether this example will deter them from committing offences in future, is qnestionable. The expressions made use of by the natives, such as, "What for soldier man, white man, corroborra ?" uttered in a half-laughing, half-sympathising tone, confirms our be lief that some attempt will be made to retaliate. We may be wrong in forming this opinion, but it behoves the settlers to be on their guard, and they cannot toe care fully watch the proceedings of the natives. We would not be supposed unnecessarily to spread alarm, but we know the acts of the aborigines arc held in utter con tempt by many persons, and to these the caution is best applied. The minor details of this execution we have passed over, but we cannot conclude this notice without ex pressing our gratification at the general accounts we hear of the praiseworthy conduct of the soldiers of the 51st Regiment, and all who attended on this certainly painful duty.—Perth Gezcltc, July 18, 1840. AUSTRALASIA SHIPPING.—The present time may perhaps be considered the most unpropitious for loading ships destined for the Australian colonies, few persons feeling inclined to embark in the depth of winter. Yet such is the amazing trade between England and these colonies, that the shipping list for this month displays an array of not less than fifty vessels entered out for the various ports in Australasia, whose united tonnage amounts to 18,444 tons. Where would this shipping find employ but for these colonies? If emigration to Australasia were accelerated by means of loans secured on the future sales of the waste colonial lands, and a supply of labour maintained equal to the demand actu ally existing, the amount of shipping required to carry on the trade thereby created would, in a short time, be double that amount now employed.—Australian Record. TII E LATE FROST.—The inconvenience to the public during the late frost, by which the navigation of the river above Blackwell was obstructed for a period longer than •any that has occurred since the winter of 1813, would have been much more felt but for the ar rangements made last summer at the Brunswick Pier at Blackwell• This pier has been completely adapted and arranged for the landing and embarkation of passengers from and to the steam-vessels, in conjunction with the Blackwell Railway. Availing themselves of that accom modation, all the steamers that were running during the frost landed and took on board their passengers there, the passengers and luggage being carried to and from Blackwall by the railway ; and there is no doubt that pro perty to a great amount, perhaps in many cases human life, have been saved by the vessels not being obliged, as heretofore. to struggle through the ice to the metropolitan wharfs. In many cases the passengers coming from Gravesend, and availing themselves of this route, arrived at the Minories station in less than two hours from the time of starting, notwithstanding the partial obstruction of the navigation below Blackwall. Lord Kimbolton and Mr. Henry John Porter have arrived at Hatchctt's Hotel, Dover street, from Rome. THE LAW.—SHERIFF'S OFFICERS.—In an action, Toits v. Macgraw, tried on Tuesday in the Sheriff's Court, the liability of Sheriff's Officers to the Sheriff; was decided. Macgraw, the officer, having distrained for 91., after notice that the furnitnre bad already been distrained cn, damages and costs to the amou n t o f 1411. were re covered against the Sheriff, who brought his action against Macgraw for that sum. The original debt was only 91., but the costs came to no less than 1321. UNIVERSITY OF CAMBRIDGE.-Mr. Stokes, tho Senior Wrangler of this year, is an Irishman, and the son of a clergyman. Ho did not enter in the first instance at Trinity College, Dublin (as is erroneously supposed by the correspondent of the Standard), but up to the period of his going to Cambridge was a student of the Bristol College, the Rev. Dr. Jerrard being at the time principal of that institution. The Rev. F. B. Briggs, M.A., Vicar of St. Stephen's by Saltash, in Cornwall, was instituted on Fri day, the 16th inst., to the rectory of Sutcombe, in Devon shire. Patron, Thomas Briggs, Esq. THE LATE COUNTESS 13 ATIIURST.—The mortal remains of the above respected Countess were re moved at an early hour on Monday morning from the family mansion in Charles-street, Berkeley -square, for in. termcnt in the family vault at Cirencester, Gloucestershire. The funeral was strictly private, the hearse being only fol lowed by one mourning coach. Earl Bathurst left town yesterday morning for Oiklcy Park, to attend the obse quies of his lamented mother. The interment took pl ace yesterday. Mr. Bell, M.P., being prevented th a e t t n h d attending g TF t he h b: the opening cf Parliament by Mrs. Bell's indisposition, has pairedFeb ruary.—Newcastle a ilu._N o E f off e w wA i t ci, h a s 't Or F . jtoPhaueergaif, s oirale e rtla.. tut occasion,hn number i ud l nb F s ec r ErR EA u. young gcn Leman, nephew;of the I:entedJthuedgsoeleTmanschhiegrielamu,a(s)sf Quebec, in whose untimely fate all have sympathised, was carried from the hospital on. WedenaedsdawyalsasctiltaoutnhteciS.acrTishtye adj ,fining the church St. Nicholas, where ho remained till Friday, when he was removed into the church, which was ohßfurnti British Consulth Catholica black k aftol Churchdr et. most respectable English and French families attending on the occasion, and following the fimeral precession to the cimetiere. We regret to say that the bodies of one sailor and of Mr. was .. er have no t ) et been discovered. The latter had, we hear, besides two gold watches and chain, up war d s of two hundred pounds about him at the time of the accident. We hear that he possessed an annual income of nearly 4,000/ , which he inherited by the death of his father, who was drowned two years ago, with his mother and two sis ters, on a voyage from New York to New Orleans.— Boulogne Gazette. In the case of Neeld v. the Duke of Beaufort, the Vice-Chancellor on Tuesday decided in favour of the Noble Duke, to whom the peaceable possession of Dunley Gors3 will immediately revert. Tuesday Alr. Butler, late lessee of the Olympi c , was liberated by the Insolvent Debtors' Court, on bail. His insolvency arose from the failure of the Olympi c Th , 2Atre, wherein the iiv,ilvent had expended a large sum 01 his own, and had i—uricd various debts now inserted in the schedule. The debts were upwards of 1,2001., and had, with the exception of about 40/., bees contracted on account of the theatre, PoST.OFFICE—MONEY ORDERS TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. Sin,—l believe it is not generally known that money to any amount may be remitted by Post-office orders. It is true that not more than five pcunds can be drawn on one order, but parties may have as many different orders for five pounds each as they please. I am aware of this from the following circumstance : A party who arrived in a post town too late for banking hours, wished to remit the sum of twenty pounds, in order to meet the payment of a bill ; he went to the Post office to make inquiries. The Postmaster said, " I have just paid one party two separate orders of the London Office for five pounds each, of consecutive numbers and of the same date, and if you like to have four orders for five pounds each you shall have them." This was agreed to, the orders granted and forwarded, and the money paid without hesitation, and this at the small cost of two shillings. As the public may not be aware of this convenience existing, perhaps you will not hesitate in announcing it. I am, Sir, yours, es,:c. January 23, 1841. NORTHVILLE. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. Stß,—Allow me, through the medium of your valu ab!c Journal, to give publicity to the loPowing circum stance : I this afternoon presented at the Branch Poet-office, Charing-cross, thirteen Post-office Orders for the sum of 14/. 153. 7d., drawn in my favour, and 811 payable there ; when, to my utter astonishment, I was toll by the clerk that he had not sqficient funds to meet my When, Sir, it is considered that advices had been duly forwarded to pay each Order at that particular place, and that an excellent per tent age i s c h arge d , as an insurance to guarantee the prompt and faithful pay. went of all such claims when applied for, surely the public have a right to expect that ample funds should be provided for that purpose, and not that they should be put off an excuse that is utterly disgraceful to an establishment possessing so large a revenue as the General Post-office. Permit r.-,e also to call your attention to another abuse connected with Post-office money orders. For merly it was considered quite sufficient for the person to whom as order was made payable to indorse it on the kick, and it was paid to his servant or friend if he could not conveniently present it in person. Now no such indulgence is allowed ; all orders being marked in large characters, not transferable, and only paid to the party on his or her personal application. However fire it the slcrilice of time, sick, lame, or in prison, go you must, with one solitary exception ; if the fortunate holder of a ten or twenty shilling order keeps an account with a bank, he may pass it through his hanker, and the large capitals which are blazoned forth io conspi cuously, arc no longer visible to the optics of the Post office authorities. I remain, Sir, yours, &c., 27, Long-acre, Jan. 23. J. HUNTER, IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. ROUSE OF COMMONS, JAN. 27. The SPEAKER took the chair shortly before Four o'Clock. Colonel BRUEN was introduced by Sir Thomas Cochrane and S.r R. H. Inglis, and took the oaths and his seat for the county of Carlow. Mr. M. BLAKE took the oaths and his scat for the county of Mayo. Mr. 13 YNG presented a petition from Chelsea, pray ing for leave to bring in a Bill to extend the line of the South Western Railway. Mr. PHILLIPS presented 31 petitions from parishes in the diocese of Herefordshire, praying that no further grants might be voted to the College of May nooth, and that the House would appoint a Committee to inquire into the system of education pursued there. Mr. EASTHOPE presented a petition from the Mayor, Aldermen, and Burgesses of the borOugh of Leicester against the payment of Church-rates. CASE OF - SARAH YOUNG. Captain PLC HELL presented a petition from Sa rah Young, relative to her imprisonment in Monmouth Gaol for non-appearance at the Bishop's Court at Llandaff, at the suit of the Rev. Dr. Lyle, for a claim for tithes to the amount of 705., and praying the House to take her case into consideration, with a view of amending the law, in order to prevent in future any further citation in the Bishop's Court with respect to tithes. Mr. MARK PHILLIPS presented a petition from leManclicster and Leeds Railway Company, prat; ink; for leave to bring inn Bill to raise a further suni Of . money ; also a petiticn from the Manchester and Sal ford Waterworks Company, for leave to bring in a Bill to improve their works. Lord SANDON presented a petition from the Earl of Derby and Lord Stanley, praying the House to agree to a Bill for dividing the parish and living of Winnington in the county of Lancaster, into two or more parishes ; also a petition from the Liverpool Gas Company for a Bill to enable that Corporation to en large its capital—and another from the Liverpool Docks Company for a Bill to enable them to borrow money for the enlargement of their docks. NEW WRIT. Oa the motion of Sir T. FRENIANTLE a new writ was ordered for the borough of lt,sigate, m the room of Viscount Elstnor, now Earl Somers. NOTICES OF MOTION. Sir E. SUDDEN gave notice that on Tuesday next he should move for leave to bring in a Bill for the amendment of the administration of justice in the [louse of Lords and in the Privy Council. FACTORIES. Lord ASHLEY gave notice that to-morrow he should move the re-appointment of the Select Com mittee, appointed last Session, to inquire into the State of Factories. SOUTH AUSTRALIA. Lord J. RUSSELL gave notice that on Monday next he should move the appointment of a Select Com mittee to inquire into the state of South Australia. On the motion of Sir M. WOOD, certain returns relative to Beer-houses, Malt, and llops, were agreed to. Sir R. INGLIS presented a petition from Bishop Stortford, complaining of Idolatrous .... Worship in India. THE ADDRESS. Lord BRABAZON brought up the Report of the Committee on the Address. The Address was read at length by the Clerk at the table. Mr. HUME wished to ask the Noble Lord near him when the papers that were promised last night would be laid More the House ? He found that the Con vention bad been already laid on the table of the House, bat it would be recollected that the Noble Lord. towards the conclusion of his speech last night, had stated that the correspondence on the subject which would be laid before them, would explain many of the proceedings which had taken place. Lorjl JOHN RUSSELL said . that he could not name a day when the papers in question would be laid before them. Sir R. H. INGLIS was anxious to take the oppor tunity of calling the attention of the House to an omission which had taken place in the Speech from the Throne, as well as in the debate of last night. It had been complained that any allusion to France had been omitted in the Speech from the Throne, but there was a question of greater interest still, the mention of which had been omitted. He believed that every Member present would anticipate he wished to refer dis tinctly to the repeal question in Ireland. He wished that her Majesty's Ministers had advised her Majesty to express an opinion on that subject. But even it any consideration could have induced them to have passed over it in the Speech from the Throne, no such con sideration could have justified them, as he thought, in maintaining that studied silence on the matter which they had maintained during the night. It was true that it could not be expected that the Speech from the Throne could comprehend every subject of general interest on which Parliament might have to decide in the course of the Session. But he would ask any Minis ter of the Crown, or any Member of the House, to state any one subject of greater importance to the tranquility and safety of the empire than that agitation with regard to the Union which now prevailed among the whole community in Ireland. Was the subject looked upon as too inconsiderable, or as having no direct bearing on the tranuillity of the empire? The Hon. and Learned Member for Dublin, whom he did not then see in his place, would hardly agree with Ministers in saying that the subject on which he had almost staked his political existence was one of minor importance. Either the Ministry would credit the Honourable and Learned Member or they would not. If they were inclined to believe him let them state to the House that they did not regard the agitation which ❑ow pervaded Ireland as one which was confined to the individuals who were actually engaged in it. But if they believed that Hon. and Learned Member, and a near connexion of his who had been engaged in the work of agitation, 50,000 men had assembled on one occasion, 100,000 on another, and 250,000 on another, taking part in the pro ceedings. He would ask the Noble Lord and Hon. Gentlemen opposite whether, if those statements were correct, it were fit that the subject should have been passed over unnoticed by her Majesty's Ministers in the Speech they recommended her Majesty to address to the House ? Or was it considered, on the other hand, that the question did not involve the peace and tran quillity of the empire ? Why, her Majesty's represen tative in Ireland seemed to think that the mere ama- Lion of the question involved the tranquility of the second city of that country, and he had accordingly despatched troops in order to enable the civil authorities to maintain the public peace when the matter came under discussion. There was also an other question which he wished to put to her Ma jesty's Ministers. The Hon. and Learned Member for Dublin had distinctly stated that the Repeal question was now a vital one, and that every man must either be a Conservative or a Repealer. He would ask the Noble Lord whether he would accept that alternative. Ile would ask him whether he were content with it ? Was he a Conservative, or was he a Repealer? The time was come, said the Hou, and Learned Dlernber for Orders. Dublin, when every man must make his election. Had the Noble Lord made his choice?—was he a Conser vative or a Repealer? Or, if the Noble Lord did not accept that alternative, and did not confide in the Honourable and Learned Member for Dublin, would he express that want of confidence before the House I,Vere Ministers prepared to take their stand upon this question ? There could be no moral doubt, they were. He was confident they would not hold the situations they now held unless they were determined to stand or fall by the question of the Union.—(Cries of" Hear.") Then why not say so ? They should either have stated so in the Queen's Speech, or in their personal addresses to the House in the course of the debate ; but though the Noble Lord, the Leader of the Go vernment, in his address, alluded to many other topics than those contained in the Speech, he courteously abstained—from what ?—from any allusion to what he (Sir Robert Inglis) ventured to think the most important subject connected with this coun try. Were these discussions to go on ? Were these bodies of men to be assembled, and her Ma jesty's troops to be sent to keep the peace, and Ministers to continue in apparent indifference, and to abstain from any declaration of opinion on the subject P A few words from them, and espe cially from the leader of that House, last night, would have been very satisfactory to the people, and he believed to every individual in that House, ex cept, perhaps, the Hon. AL•mber for Dublin. He would not advert to those points in the Speech on which sufficient discussion took place last night, far ther than to say that he entirely concurred in all that had fallen from the Right Honourable Baronet (Sir Hobart Peel), with respect to the omission of the name of France —an omission which he thought might have been supplied without any toes to our na tional dignity, and with great advantage to the feeling and peace of the country. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said he conceived his opi nions were sufficiently well known, as also those of his Noble Friend the Lord Li , utenant of Ireland, on the subject of the repeal of the Union. With respect to the policy of advising her Majesty to make a declaration on the subject, he conceived that the propriety of doing so depended upon whether or not such a declaration would be advantageous and expedient ; and certainly in time of a formidable agitation on the subject it might be expedient to advise the Crown to make such a- declaration, but at other times be thought that such a declaration would rather add importance to the cry of a moment, and would be inexpedient.— ( Hear, hear.) His Hon. Friend had asked rattier a singular question upon the authority of a statement of the Hon. and Learned Member for Dublin, that all men were either Coneervatives or Repealers—a state. [Dent which the Hon. Baronet appeared to consider as conclusive. It might be so to the Hon. Baronet, but it was not so to him (Lord John Russell.)—(Laughter.) The Honourable Baronet might state to in deference to the opinions of the Hon. Member for Dublin ; but he (Lord J. Russell) did not pay it that implicit deference, and therefore he was not bound to make the declaration. But he would put a question to his Hon. Friend in return with regard to the movement of the troops which took place in consequence of an alarm that a breach of the peace would take place on the road to Belfast. These troops were moved in consequence of certain threats that were made, that if the Hon. Member for Dublin made any such progress to Belfast, there would be a breach of the peace, tumult, and vio• lence. Now he begged to ask of the Hon. Baronet whether these threats were made by Conservatives or Repeaters ?—(Laughter.) If by Repeaters, he should not have thought they should have made so violent an opposition to the Honourable Member for Dublin, but if by Conservatives, it seemed to him to be a very odd exhibition of Conservative principles. —(Laughter.) Perhaps his Hon. Friend would favour him with a definition of his views on this subject.— (Laughter.) Toe Report was then agreed to. Lord. JOHN RUSSELL said, perhaps it would be convenient to inform the House, that her Majesty would receive the Address at Buckingham Palace to morrow, at Half-past One o'Clock. SESSION AL ORDERS. On the motion of Lord JOHN RUSSELL, the House proceeded to consider and revise the Sessional On the reading of the Order relating to the Com mittee on Private Petitions, Lord STAN LEY suggested that as petitions which were referred to Committee, and ordered to be printed in the meanwhile, sometimes contained allegations injurious to individuals who had no opportunity of vindicating themselves, the House should put the seal of its privacy on such petitions, and forbid their publication until after the report of the Committee. He thought they could be printed for the use of Members only without being permitted to go forth to the public with the sanction of the House. He thought it was better to bring forward this subject on the present occasion than to wait until the first case of the sort should arrive, and then to op pose the printing the petition without giving any notice of his intention. He should be glad to hear that the Noble Lord concurred with him in opinion on this subject. Lord JOHN RUSSELL could only say that he felt much disposed to agree in opinion with the Noble Lard. Although the printing of other papers might occasionally produce a painful effect on the feelings cf individuals yet the:e could not be a doubt that the greatest abuses artye from the printing petitions con taining charges against individuals. lle doubted whether it would not be better, except in cases of great urgency, where, perhaps, they would have to consider of ,he subject matter of the petition the next day, to abide strictly by the Standing Order, and send all petitions to the Committee ; because, if the matter were not to be taken into consideration for ten days or a fortnight, the sending of them to that Committee to determine whether they should be printed or not could not occasion much delay, and the Commit tee would then see if it would be advisable that such petitions should not be published and sold. He should be inclined, except in cases of urgency, to abide by this rule. Mr. O'CONNELL believed that the rule at present applied only to cases of urgency. He would suggest that in addition to the general Committee of Petitions, a particular Committee should be appointed, to which all cases of urgency should be referred, which would secure the inspection of a Committee in all cases of petitions. _ Lord HO WICK was glad his Hon. Friend opposite had called the attention of the House to this subject. The fact was they were rapidly relapsing into the old bad practice of allowing any Member to have his peti tion printed and circulated with the Votes. The Com mittee which sat last Session had recommended that no petition should be printed unless it could be shown by the Hon. Member presenting it, not only that he intended to found a motion on such petition, but also that the subject would not admit of delay. He regretted exceedingly t hat it had not been the pleasure of the Howe to follow up the recommendations of the Committee. He thought that, at the beginning of a new Session, the rule ought to be drawn much more strictly than it had hitherto been, and no petition ought to be printed,• unless it was shown that its urgency was such as not to admit of the delay of going before the Committee. Mr. GOULBU RN thought there were considerable difficulties surrounding the question. He thanked his Noble Friend for calling the attention of the House to the subject ; but he did not think that the Noble Lord who had just spoken had suggested an adequate re. medy. He thought the suggestion of his Noble Friend the Member for North Lancashire was the only one that could be effectively applied in the case under con sideration. Sir It. INGLIS concurred generally in the views which had been expresssed by his Right Hon. Friend near him. Sir It. PEEL addressed the House on the same subject. He believed that the only precaution was vigilance, and the exercise of discretion on the part of the House of Commons, and also on the part of the individual Member presenting the pe tition. He thought there should be an assurance from the Member that he not only intended to found a motion upon it, but that he considered it bona file necessary for the clear understanding of that petition, that it should be printed for the use of the Members. The notice of motion to print the petition ought to be made on a different day to the presentation, that the House of Commons might be enabled to determine whether it should be printed or not. In the case of a petition making personal imputations which might be unfounded, but which it might be necessary to print for the use of the House, the wisest course would be, in the first instance to confine it to the Members. Ile believed upon the whole that would most substantially fulfil every legitimate ob ject connected with the presentation of the petition. It ought to rest in the discretion of the individual Member presenting the petition. Supposing a member professing a strict adherence to the truth should, under the authority of the House, indulge in a strain of vituperation, or should in a petition indulge in private abuse of any party it would be a gross abuse of the power of the House, and therefore he thought the proposition of his Noble Friend ought to be acceded to. He could easily conceive that it might be absolutely necessary that a petition containing crimi natory matter should be printed, but }le quite agreed that such printed matters should be confined to the Members of the House, Mr. HUME had always thought that the only pro per and safe plan was to trust to the discretion of indi ngranxious ha indi vidual Members having such petitions to pr esent. He w ould suggest that a Mn such petiti on in g that it sho u ld b e consideration,pprlaincteedditainldsistahkaenndsinatnodbeimbe to give notice of his intention should b e o bli ge d to mak bd e eay such a m otion in the Orders o f the previous making such a rule nopetition instanter, and lie thought that day, By would be a suffi c.:ent guard against an abt; se of the powers of the House. The privilege of the people, so far as the petitioning of that H ouse went, had been too much restricted, and he would b e very Sorry to agree to any EVENING EL IT Mr. \VAKLEY conceived that that would place the House in the same condition in which it stood at present. He understood the practice to be that when an Ho nourable Member presented a petition and stated that it was his intention to found a motion on it, that no opposition would be given to the motion for printing it. There were great evils attending such a practice, and he was glad the Noble Lord was about to put a stop to it. He himself knew many cases in which the petitioners were only anxious to have the petition printed in order that the state ments might go before the public. That appeared to him a gross imposition on the House—(Hear, hear) —and he thought that any Hon. Member presenting a petition to the House containing charges against an iss dividual should take the greatest pains to ascertain tho correctness of the allegations. if the petition were presented merely for the use of the ,'Members it would he unfair to shut out the accused party from a know ledge of its contents. In his opinion the Noble Lord ought to postpone the resolution for further coneideration. • After a few words of explanation from Lord STAY. LEY, the resolution was agreed to: BUSINESS OF THE 'HOUSE. Mr. BROTHERTON rose and said the motion lot had the honour to submit to the House was, that no. new business should be brought on which was exce;)ted to by five Members after twelve o'clock at night. The proposition appeared to him so reasonable, that he was much inclined to hope he should receive greater support on the present occasion, than on any former one. He was quite convinced there was a proper feel ing in the country that did not approve of the late sit tings of the House. They often boasted of the wisdom. of our ancestors, and our ancestors wisely legislated by daylight. This was also the practice of all the Le gislative Assemblies in Europe and the United States. and he conceived it would be attended with teeny bene ficial consequences if it were adopted in that House. He need not enlarge upon the injurious effects of the present system. lie was satisfied that the pre sent system was injurious to the health of Mem bers, and that it did not facilitate in any degree the public business. Neither was it for the advantage of the public that Members suffered in their health, and in some instances their deaths might be attributed to the late sittings of that House. He therefore hoped that Hon. Members would support the motion for their own sakes, If it were carried, it would not retard, but facilitate, the public business. Some Hon. Mem bers objected to his motion, on the ground that it would have the efrect of lengthening the Session. He did not believe that would be the case, although it might shorten some of the speeches which could be very well dispensed with.—(A laugh.) The public had a right to be made acquainted with the proceedings of that House, but they all knew that when the business was carried on long after mid night, the Members were fatigued, the galleries unoccu pied, the reporters exhausted,and the public consequently not properly made acquainted with the proceedings of that House.—(Hear, hear, and a laugh.) It was rather an invidious task for one Hon. Member con stantly to attempt to adjourn the House at a certain hour, and he would rather that the House should adopt some rule on the subject. He had never any desire to set himself against the wishes of a majority of the House, although his opinion was it would be better it the House adjourned earlier. His propo sition was so reasonable that he hoped it would meet with general support. The Hon. Member concluded by moving—" That no new business, which shall be objected to by Five Members, be brought on after twelve o'clock at night." Mr. MART seconded the motion, and observed, that time had convinced him some alteration ought to be made in the hours of that House, and he was con vinced that the opinion of the public upon this subject would very coon prevail over the opinion of that House. The Rolls' Court formerly sat during the evening, but since it had met in the daytime all who fre quented that Court agreed that much more busi ness was done, and that what was done was done a great deal better.—(Hear, hear.) He thought it most unreasonable that the time of those Mem bers who were willing to devote the daytime to public duty in the llouse of Commons should be sacri ficed to the convenience of those who be!onged to trades s and pro'essions. He thought, too, that if the hours of that House were reformed, that would have a good effect on the country, for he believed, that the late hours which prevailed in this country more than in any other in the world, were chiefly owing to the example of Parlia ment. This custom interfered with the proper despatch of public business in every department. At none of the public offices was there any attendance until twelve or one o'clock in the logy. If any fo reigner, who had only learned that this country was the first to set the example to the world of representa tive legislation, were to come into that House, in . I I course of a debate after midnight, what notion would he form of the excellence of their system? He witld see the Secretary for the Treasury stretched upon ono bench, and the Secretary for the Admiralty slumberin on g another.—(Laughter.) lie would sec the Peysident of the Board of Control subdued in sleep;s•und the Noble Secretary fur Foreign Affairs, deaf to the mice of war, rc.cchoed from the Opposition benches.—(A laugh.) He (Mr. E.) supported the resolution of his Hon. Friend, because although it was but a small step it was still a step in advance. Mr. BRISCOE supported the motion. The only result of the present system was to detain Members hour after hour, wasting their constitutions, in idle de clamation and contentions. The Parliament of this country acted differently in the days of Lord Claren don, and he thought they then acted on the common sense view of the subject. He therefore hoped that the House would accede to the motion of the Hon. Member for Salford. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that they had several times discussed that question, and he believed the Honse had never been able to perceive that a strict rule of the kind proposed would enable them to do more business, or to do it more conveniently. On the contrary his opinion was that no other result could follow from such a rule, than to prevent them from going through the public business, and to compel them to prolong their labours. The Hon. Member for Wigan should re member that there were many merchants, lawyers, and other official men, Members of the House, who were employed during the day, and who could not give them their attendance. There were also many Members employed in the morn ing on Committees ; and he (Lord J. Russell) was sure the time of those Members was very fully oc cupied by their labours. If, therefore, they were to exclude from their debates lawyers, mercantile, and official men, they might only prolong their debates without increasing their knowledge on any subject. He would refer to the cases of France and America, but ho believed that whatever might be the merits of the elo quence both of the French Chambers and the Ameri can Congress, for various reasons into which he would not enter, there was no comparison between the busi ness done by that House and the quantity of business done by the American Congress, which after all was not the legislature of the country ; or by the French Chamber, in which very few laws were passed in the course of the year. He had never been convinced by the arguments in favour of the motion, and he must again refuse to support it. Mr. O'CON NELL thought there was a great dif ference between going through business and doing it ; that more business might be g one through by that House than by th e Chamber of Deputies of Franco, or the Congress of America, he could readily believe ; but he much doubted whether they did as much.— (Hear, hear.) Acts of Parliament bad been passed aws-itrleiitinectitiienglatsittsfellveaysetarcsrewhch no man d , it i onthech c a o ra u e lt t l e c r o o ndr of the House. The merchants of London were the only merchants who were accommodated by the present method of conducting the business of the House. Mercantile men from other places had to leave their business entirely in order to come to attend their Par liamentary duties. With regard to the lawyers, it was only the lawyers of London who were converlienced ; the lawyers of Scotland w a regardand t Ireland sou ita Committees ie n had co t n o v l ;e ea h ; weee their of those profession altoge ther. Th e House ought not to b e w ould eom t be, if compelled t °give yto individualswith they Lay, aLY Lay, nine o'clock in the mor n i ng , an d sat till eight ay in the evening, for two or three dais in the week, to de vote two days exclusively to the business of Committees ; and a Committee sitting for an entire day would, most likely, get thr oug h their business without any adjourn ment being n ecessary, and Hon. Members were aware of the numberless expenseshe before upon parties hav inghese numerous adjournmentsoreHtheossiewuV busin, fss to transact m vo m te itt f ees ortl b ie y motion, although he did not think it went far enough. It was a glaring absurdity to conduct all their delibera tions after night. Parliament was a high Court of Justice—no other Court conducted its business by night. The motion required the concurrence of five Gentlemen to force the House to an adjournment. Now, the Hon. Gentleman well knew that five Mem bers could compel the House to adjourn it at any time, so that it was only removing the invidiousness of the task from those Gentlemen. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman concluded by expressing his determination to support the motion, as bringing back the House to the dictates of common sense. Mr. BROTH ERTO N, in reply, stated that the late Speaker said that he had suffered more in his health from six weeks' late sitting than ho had during all the preceding Session, when the House adjourned at 12. wa e f ta o es r b e aew t i l n i et e gr e d a i d v jt i oh s u in a o rtnt , ehd w i s o b u e l d suggest the might nd be one d ay p_ro ( l‘ p c i r r i i . l e c t i c y i- r U o s. f;n l o E i d ' i e e b b consi dered interfering with the freedom of discussion, but he appealed to Hou. Members whether after two days' debate any new matter had been elicited by further ad , Jourarneato, The result of his proposition would be r ..... 4 '-'!. 2, \--‘ s,, &•frt- . 7; ~ ~ft,_!. --- 11 .i- 1-.7 ..1 - * • - - \-......" 9 . 74 . V resolution the tendency of which would be to increas* that restriction. Mr. F. FRENCH said it ought to be understood that no petition should be printed unless the Member gave notice that it was his intention to found a motion on it. r the to $ ince' .00; ./01 erY