The Sun. — London, England, 1819-11-03 00:00:00

TO THE EARL OF ALBEMARLE. AMY LORD—Your Lordship i-s The third British Nobl em n whom have had occasion to address. Happily, the character of our Peerage relieves me from any strong apprehension of the continued labour ; and I have much confidence, that my task of addressing the titled Apologists of the Ra tlicals will end at the Earl of ALBEMARLE. Be not startled, my Lord.—Had I considered you their' friend, I should have encountered you with language, partaking of more equality than a Nobleman, who s:ill preserves your Lordship's sense of birth and station, would readily tolerate. Assuming you to be thtir enemy, I shall pay that respect to your intentions which may not per- Laps be so due ro your arguments ; and, never theless, believe you to dislike a Leveller as much as I know you to abhor an Athiest. .Yolsr Lordbhip separates the Manchester trans actions, and indeed the whole ques►ion of Re form, from the conduct of ElosT and his fellows. By what decomposing limeys; the separation has been effected, we are vet to learn. Hitherto we have not been illuminated with the knowledge how the array of the Radicals, and their Lto- gouge, and their movements, are divided from the Meeting which they convoked, and the Resolutions wLich they propounded. For this desirable les sot we await your Lordship's better information. Your anti-military feelings being excited only by the Norfolk Drummers, much may be - -expected from your vindication of the Manchester Standard bearers.. In the course of this interesting lesson, we shall anxiously expect to learn—what connection have " the ancient rights and liberties " of Eng land with the threats, and the riots, and the trea sons of the Manchester Radicals? It is rather too stale a practice to identify the constitutional movements of the People with the insurgent to. mulls of the Mob ; to vindicate the illegality of the latter by the tormet's legality ; and then, again, to corroborate the claims of the former by the latter's violence. Rather, at least, too stale for Lord ALBEMARLE'S more experienced in genuity. You say rightly, my Lord.—" Revolution may " be near at hand."—Yet, is it so near, and sees your Lordship neither its character nor its source ?--Do you trace it in the Army, which is arrayed tor its suppression ; and which, but for its approach, would not have been allayed ? Whoso cannot see the danger of Revolution, un less in its prevention, must be prepared to argue, not only that the Sovereign and his Ministers bare formed &design of subverting the Constitu tion and establishing a despotiSM, but that they bad formed it before the Radicals had stirred a step ; while Hu LiT was yet brewing bad beer, and WATSON compounding nasty nostrums. Again, my Lord, you say rightly—Whig principles are " much misunderstood by the Peo ple."—J am shrewdly mistaken, if the old Whig• gism—(is it that which your Lordship thinks of ?) ever entered into a Radical's contemplation.— Take care, my Lord, and keep close in your AVhiggism. If radical HUNT catches you in his territories, he may not perhaps let you back again into the llolkharn enclosure. I am not very continuous in this discussion ; but I write for effect, not for style.—Your Lordship is my leader ; and I follow with no other conti nuity than your erratic example.—What cohe rence, indeed, can be observed in an argument, which contends—that " a question is not in a " course of trial," because it has been adjourned ? And that, because HUNT was not arrested before the Meeting took place, it was unconstitutional to arrest him after it had assembled ?—An argument, which censures the dispersion of one mob assembled to denounce the Constitution, because another mob was not dispersed which had assembled to chose a Delegate.—Which would your Lordship desire ?—That the Constitution was to be radically cut up without hindrance? —or, that a pack of fool;sli people were to be cut down for electing that poor creature, Sir CHARLES WOLSELEY ? And now, my Lord, for your Resolutions— which, not being in such a desperate hurry as the Norfolk Petitioners, I shall " stop to examine Y' I know not in what edition of the Bill of Rights . it is laid - down, that the, people " may assemble " for the discussion of ANY political question :" but this I know, that under such a clause the people may erect themselves into a fourth Estate out of Parliament, and discuss the disinheriting the Brunswick Family, the change of the National Religion, or what else forms the basis of our Constitution, upon the simple and single condi tion of their thinking, that the aforesaid inherit ance, or Religion, " is or may be" a grievance. I am afraid, my Lord, you would run some ha civil of Mr. I - luNT's insisting that this is HIS " cause," as well as your Lordship's. The second Resolution declares the dispersion of such an assembly to be illegal. Certainly it -ii--volten the legality of i 1 e assembly hal been establislietl—but not tin then. Curious logic indeed—because it is Istvtol to meet for petition ing, it is lawful to meet where petitioning is dis claimed! admire your Lordship's nicety about '.' overt acts." Are you however, toy Lord, perfectly aware, that in the interpretation of the Law and of Country Gentlemen, they are sometimes very distinct matters ?—That to an unpractised under standing it may appear sufficiently legal to assem ble with banners, and emblems, and weapoUs— no matter how revolutionary—provided,only that no treasonable purpose has been previouslyspoken out P—The Law, however, finds such purpose in every act which leads to it, without entering into the mind of the agent. If your Lordship's " bits and feelings" have placed you above under standing the Law, ler us hope that you will cease to expound it, in places where you may meet too teachable an audience! The blame which you attach to the,Manchester Soldiery has been so often refuted, that I wil lingly omit the refutation. The leaders of the mob were accused of violating the law .---they were apprehended by the Civil Power :---•••the mob attacked the constables—the soldie:s ~ cbarged upon the mob for 11 rescue—and, this is concerted into an armed dispersion of the Meeting. Such are the principal objects of your Lord ship's Speech and Resolutions.—Being at present in a course of Peers, I cannot desce - 14 to bumbler Lostaa may 'describe the-Petitioners in general terms, as " the Noblemen, Genile men, Clergy, and Freeholders " of Norfolk : Mr. NEWCOMBE may insist that "-the voice of the " People in a just cause is the voice of truth but I shall not stop to notice the deceptive gene rality of the one, or the non sequitur of the other. The Reverend Seconder, indeed, appears as deeply skilled in logic as your• Lordship is in law. I am weary of a tale already twice told: and of what I have addressed to your Brother Earls, I must beg your Lordship to make a third applica tion.—You have vehemently censured the dis missal of Lord FITZWILLIAM, upon the same prin ciple as he himself must have censured the dis missal of the patriotic Duke whom he succeeded. Surely, it was a less offence to toast Tug MAJESTY OF THE MOB in a private club-room, than to re cognize it on the public hustings. But your Lordship is in THOMAS PAINE'S own County. The air of Norfolk is more strongly im pregnated,with democracy than were the breezes that wafted hither - rile LORD OF VoottsT with the Prince of ORANGE. Your ancestor's service was not half revolutionary enough. for the Jacobins who Italloo'd round his descendant :—he imported too much of his native phlegm :—he retained a troublesome calculation, that Mobs might be un constitutional as well as Sovereigns. Your Lord ship has inherited, I trust, his Dutch temper as well as his English acquisitions. The radical power which could persuade you out of the one, would soon force you out of the other. It was rather a perilous adventure, while en• gaged with modern Republicans, to look bark upon past actions or past principles. They put your Lordship into as aukward a predicament as was Mr. COKE, when some mischievous loyalist or officious leveller—l know not which—revived certain passages of his parliamentary history.— It may perplex either zeal or malice to discover any thing which has been done by your Lordship's self :—your dignified leisure sends us back in the search to your ancestors.—But, should such em• barrassing recollections be again brought up, take care, ray Lord, and have Mr. HantoßD at your elbow, with the eloquent and unanswerable answer of tearing and trampling upon them. I now release your Lordship. If I have casu ally forgotten that respect which in these times I would the more anxiously shew toward you, the Orator of popular Meetings, who quits his privi leged seat for the applauses of a Mob, will not be over angry. There is something in the air of De mocratic Assemblies, in their very effluvia, which infects all who respire it : and I have perhaps con tracted, amid their discussion, a portion of that radical carelessness of language, of that Jacobinical `disregard.of station—for which, even though your Lordship should he gratified at the unintentional lapse, I entreat the pardon of the. Peerage. TENAX. We learn from The Glasgow courier of Satur dal., that " the apple of discord thrown by HUNT, THISTLEWOoD, WATSON, and the other Leaders in London, among the Radicals, has al ready reached Scotland," dividing as it rolls. — Accordingly we find that at Paisley the older Members of the Committee of Management have resigned their momentous trust, while at Glasgow it is reported the Managers are disunited. The different lobbies, galleries, and approaches to both Houses of Pathament are repairing a nd thoroughly cleaning, preparatory to the Meeting . on the 23d. The interiors of both HOUSes, too, are cleansed and new matted. We received this morning the Paris Papers ,of Sunday last. The following are Extracts : " Parris, OCT. 31.—The King yesterday trans acted business with the Marquess Dessolles, and gave a private audience to the Cardinal Arch biihop of Paris : his Majesty did not go out, but bis slight indisposition is of no consequence, and it is believed his Majesty will go out this day. " Letters from the frontiers of Spain mention, that the state of health in Catalonia was most satisfactory. It bad been apprehended that a soldier, di,covered at Barcelona, had recently deserted from Cadiz, but it appears that he deserted from Seville previous to the mani festation of any contagious disease. He has been sent to the Lazaretto, in order to be re conveyed to his corps. The existence of conta gion at Barcelona is denied. The communications between the Provinces of Catalonia, Valencia, and Arragon present no motive for disquietude, and are continued without interruption. FIVE PER CENTS. Saturday . 71 f. 20 c. DEFERRED STOCK Of the 22d March, 1817, 92 1. 95c. 02d Sept. 1817, 9O f. 95 c. 22 , 1 March, 1818, BB 1.95 c. 22,1 Sept. i 818, SG f. 95 c. 82d March, 1819, B4 1 4 . - 95 c. 24d Sept. 1819, B3l. sc. " STOCKHOLM, OCT. 12.—The following anec dote is related here respecting the papers left by Gustavus M. He bad given orders that they sbould be deposited in the University of Upsal, which was carried into effect. They were placed in two large chests, which, according to the King's order, were not to be opened till 50 years'after his death, but the latter order has not been attended to. It was alleged that the two chests were no►t clearly described in the King's will, and that it. was pos sible they might be changed for others. In or der to avoid this inconvenience they were opened, when it was found that the literary labours of the deceased King consisted of a Secret History of his Reign.—The two chests have been again closed, and placed in the same depository, under the Seals of the present Zing, and-of the Arch bishop of Upsal. " BERLIN', OCT. 18.1—The political rel.:clops between oar Court and that of Russia continue very intimate. " The Emperor of Russia, it is said, will re main at Warsaw till the beginning of November , and then return direct to St. Petersburg!), without, proceeding to Get many. " The Committee of the Constitution, presided over by the Prince de Hardenberg, held its first sitting on the 13th instant, and has since held second. M.M. de Humboldt and de Schuchrdana assisted at the sittings, as well as three other Members appointed by the King. The Projet of the Constitution w:11, it is hoped, be soon ar ranged. " 'the system established by the Diet of Frank• fort will be adopted in the Prussian States, but no foreign authority will be allowed to pass sentence upon Prussian subjects." THE (OLD) Tiaras.--The Morning Chronicle of yesterday, contained an account of illeged ill treattnent, which Mr. Si OKoE, Naval Surgeon, on board the Admiral's ti4g-ship at St. Helena bad received, and which, we, from authority stated "to be false from the beginning to the end:" , But The (Old) Times, t.(11 its usual aversion to truth, and prejudice against Government,, has, never- . theless, thought proper to insert it this day, without comment, as if it were fo.unded on iu divutable facts. Will not the contempt of maw. kind teach that Paper common policy .• A Loyal - Declaration had been issued by the Vicar and Select Vestry of St. Paul's, Covent•s Garden, expressive of attachment to the Con,ti tution in Church and State, a Declaration which the nature of the times ought to call forth from every body, public or private, who raffles the blessings of good order and a protecting Govern-, mem. This Declaration was not conformable to the opinions and feelings of several of the li t he- , bitants, and therefore a Meeting took place yes terday at Fisher's Rooms, King -street, pursuant to notice, which many of them attended. The. Chair was taken by T. B. BEAUMONT, Esq., who opened the business of the Meeting, and severely condemned the conduct of the Vicar and Vestry for having issued the previous Declaration. EC dwelt some time on the Manchester transaction! in a strain of prejudication, which could have hardly been expected front a gentleman of his ac knowledged talents and good sense. lie was fol lowed by Mr. CORDER, one of the Society of, Ftiends, who declaimed with more warmth, anti by no means with that meekness which might be expected from one of his fraternity. I-k pro posed a string of Resolutions of a hackneyed. Radicot description, which, as Well as his speech, certainly did not accord with the mild character of his respechible Brotherhood.. The Resoln titans were put and carried.—An Address to t 3.• PaSNCE REGENT was then proposed by a Mr. NoRTnOuSE, partaking of the same character an& spirit which marked the Resolutions. A Mr. CLERK seconded the Adiress ; and a Mr. SKEL.., TON made a speech in favour of it. it was put and carried, and. thanks having been given to the Chairman, the Meeting dispersed. It is probable that the Meeting consisted of well-meaning Per.' sons, unhappily touched with the Reforming spirit too prevalent among the lower order of People, and which, as we see by the thoughtless conduct of many of their superiors, has spread its infection above the ignorant vulgar ; but to she' that there was not much judgment and sagacity . among the Persons present yesterday, they.passed . censure on themselves in the following passage of their own Address, for in reference Manchester business - they say, " mirth this dreadful event, however, we refrain from giving . way to the expresSion of our feelings, because, un til it has undergone a patient and legal investiga" lion, it might he almost as improper to pronounce deep condemnation, as to bestow unqualified praise and thanks." This passage, willed' is marked by good sense, liberality, and justness, is not only in direct opposition to the sentiments previously aeowetl by all the Speakers, but to the preceding tenor and language of the very Address of which it forms a part. Such is tire wisdom and co n " sistency of those Gentlemen who came forward to arraign the Ministry and to reform th e e Govern ment l ! ! DEATH OF THR PRINCE OF lloHltts7ZOLLEtati• — "" The death of the yoong Prince of nungliZO i l LRRN has made a great sensation at Vienna, aut has given rise to the most singolAr reports. r f b : e truth is, that nn the day of his decease , th is young Prince was fencing with rule young frioec. of TOUR AND TAKts, his friend and comrade, for both mere attached to the rtgiment of CuirstsSierS, 6 of Prince ConsTANTINr, tiltiw in this gerrlsoll; The combat became very animated, and both wer e vet' t‘ , arnt. In the midst of this exercise .stl i f . Prince of HotiONZoLLERN fell under a s troke • f -" apoplexy, and died shortly after. The Princ e 0 ° 1" Toon AND TAxts is inconsolable for the !( 95 . 11 ..1 his ft iend, and has Liaisell fallen deagescoli (Vienna, Oct. 17.) Lzt i It tais et‘ Pr etel 4c sic, Ohr tni .kil Re,. 14 1 i 6. (1 r 1 / 4 4 e w. Y in, in it : t `kie re Pro / al with L i ki Ors 1, We 11 % 4 14 0 ; %( 1 / 4 : 4r Chi sees I til e Pk! f ") h IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, TUESDAY, Nov. 2. PROROQATION FOR BUSINESt. About four o'clock the LORD CHANCELLOR and suite came down to the House, and shortly atter else Earl Of SHAFTESBURY and Lord ST. HELENS attended. Their Lordships having robed, took their seats on the bench in front of the Throne, as the Royal Commissioners. The Acting Usher of the Black Rod, Mr. QUARMR, was then dis patched to order the attendance of the Commons, who, being represented on this occasion by Mr. RICKMAN, one of the Principal Clerks, attended by various minor Clerks and Officers of the House, forthwith appeared at the Bar. The Royal Commission tOr the further Proro gation of Parliament, and authorizing the Lords therein•named, or any thr,ee or - more of them, to declare and notify the same, was then read by Mr. Cuaasic, the second Clerk of the House. The Commission stated the Royal will and pleasure that Parliament be prorogued until Tuesday, the 23'l day of November instant, " to be then holden and sit, for the despatch of divers urgent and im portant affairs. And the Lords, Spiritual and Temporal, and the Knights, Citizens, and Bur geSses, and Commissioners tor Shires and Burgt.s of th House of Commons, are hereby required and con►usanded to give their attendance accord ingly, at IVestminster, on the said 23d day of Novuuber.'t 'The Royal Commission being tem!, The LORD CHANCI3L-Loß,as,urgmn of the Lords Commissiouers, rhea addressed the Assetnh!y.as follows : " My Lords and Gentlemen, " By virtue of the Commission to its and other Lords directed, and now read,%Ve do, in obeiiience to the commands of His Royal Highiltss,the Pt it;ce Regent, in the name and on the hebalt of his Ma jesty. prorogue this Parliament until Tuesday, the 23d day of this instant November, to be ,then here holden ; and this Parliament is accordingly pro" rogued to the said 23d day of this instant Novem ber." The Commons then withdrew to their own House, •and their Lordships retired. T E A ICAL REGISTER. Performed Last Night. THEATRE ROYAL, DRURY-LANE.—The Road to Ruin: Old Dornton, Mr. blunder Henry DOrnton, Mr. Ellistan; Sophia, Miss Kelly. After which, High Notions. THEATRE ROYAL, COVENT-GARDEN.—The Road to Ruin t Old Dornton, Mr. W. Farren ; Henry Dornton, Mr. Ahbott; Sophia, Miss Brunton. After which, Arthur and Entnte• • line. PRICE OF Tllln PAT AT TV sTocKs IVE Lir E O'CLOCK. Bank Stock- 2131 5 per Ct. Navy Ann. ....IC2I s per Cent. Ked. 611iiii 103 1021 S per Cent. C0n5.....57iWk India Bonds 6s. 7s. 4s. ss. pr. 31 per Cent, 1 4 per Cents. F-114 Omniuns 2l dis. Bank Lung Ann. 17 7-16ths I Cons. for Account .. 67iiiii MAILS. ARRIVED-1 Dublin, 1 Hatnharglt. l)ut-1 Waterford, 2 Lisbon. HIGH WATER. AT LONDON BRIDGE 'l 7 O-MORROW. Morning, 55 minutes alter 3. t Evening, 19 minutes alter 4. THI I T . SO! EM QUIs Div Elm FALsum AUDEAT ? LONDON, WEDNESDAY, .NOVEMVER 3, 1839.