The Sun. — London, England, 1849-06-26 00:00:00

AMERICAN NEWS. The following are extracts from the New York Week 4 Herald, brought by the Niagara, which arrived at Liverpool yesterday morning 1— CHAnLr.sToN, JUNE 11.—The Isabel arrived at this pert from Havannah this morning, having left there on the 7rh inst. The Falcon had arrived at Havannab, and the Isthmus being in port, it was proposed to trans fer some of the passengers of the former to the Isthmus. This was remonstrated against, and some of the passen gers havng arms, they determined to use them in re sistance, if necessezy. Tne matter was finally adjusted by the interference of the American Consul. In the markets there has been considerable activity, with large sales for Germany. White Sugars were quoted at 10 to 11 ; yellow, 6 to 7; brown, 51 to 51- . , and Nuscovades, 41 to 6. The whole stock of Muscovado mo lasses had been purchased for England at four rials. In cloyed molasses there had also been considerable busi ness done for the stme destination, at 21 rials, and from the coast at 2 rials. Rice, 9 to 91. Freights were dull. Exchange, 10 per cent on London, and on New York par to 1 per cent premium. TERRIBLE STORM.—Lf ITISVILLE, JUNE 12, 6 P.M.-- A severe storm occurred near the village of Metropolis, Illinois, en the Ohio river, on Friday last. Both chim- net's or the steamboat Peytona were blown overboard, and two or three coal boats in tow of the Belle of Nashville, and as ninny in tow of the Superb, were sunk. The steamer Memphis encountered a severe gale near Medina, and the pilot's house and the roof of the cabin were blown off. The chimneys were also blown down. Three pilots with the carpenter were thrown overboard and drowned, together with some thirteen others. The captain was blown from the hurricane deck to the forecastle, and seriously hurt. The books and papers, and almost everyning else. were lost; also the greater portion of the cabin furniture. Those who re mained in the cabin escaped uninjured. The boat was badly shattered, and one man almost torn to atoms. D - READFUL ►STEAMBOAT EXPLOSION AND LOSS OF LIFE.—LOUISVILLE, JUNE 12.—The steamboat Embassy collapsed both flues of her starboard boiler, below Green River, on Saturday morning last, and a number of the crew and dick passengers were killed and blown over board by the violence of the concussion; twenty•eight others were severely scalded, some of them, it is feared, BO seriously that they will not recover. The killed and wounded were chiefly deck passengers, th , ugh some of the cabin passengers were also injured. The number of killed has not yet been ascertained. The cook was blown, overboard and drowned, and the second engineer badly scalded. The b)at was much shattered, and shortly after the lamentable disaster was towed to Evansville, Indiana. The scene oo board was of the most heartrending description. The Embassy was from Pittsburgh, bound to St. Louis. LOUISVILLE, JUNE 12.—8 y the explosion on board the Em , assy, thirteen deaths occurred, and five arc still missing. The first engineer has since died, and near thirty persons were injured and scalded. BOSTON. JUNE G. Palfrey, free soil, has been defeated for Congress. There is no choice by the people. CINCINNATI, JUNE l2.—The Nashville papers of Sa turti.; say that ex-President Pulk was still lying dan gerously ili. He is suffering from an attack of the diar rhet, and not of the cholera, Es previously reported. BALTIMORE, JUNE 12.—The steam-frigate Mississippi left her anchorage on Th urs d ay , and mae the run to Cape Henry, a distance of forty miles, in the space of three hours and a half. • The steamer Waterwitch, bound for the Gulf of Mexico, returned and anchored in Hampton Roads on Saturday night, having five cases of cholera on board. The patients were sent to the naval hospital. The steamer Wave has been sunk near Guyandotte, Virginia, having on board 400 bbls. of salt. No lives were lost. It is thought that she will be raised. BALTIMORE, JUNE 12.—We have New Orleans papers to the sth ult. A sale of Government steamers took place the day before, at which the following were dis poser of:—The Alabama, for 23,000 dolls.; the New Orleans, for 31,000 dolls.; and the propeller Thompson, for 23.000 dolls. The original cost of the two former was 130,000 dolls. ST. Louis, Julie 11.—The number of deaths by cho lera since t-iaturday reaches 70; from other diseases, 13. The vieather was quite sultry, and the Mississippi river very high. SECOND DISPATCH—ST. LOUIS, JUNE 11, - P.M.—The cholera continues to rage in our city. We have had seventy deaths by that disease daring the last two days. The weather is very hot. THIRD DISPATCH—ST. LOUIS, JUNE 12, A.3L—Six teen cerneteiies report 98 burials on Saturday, Sunday, and Alonday, 61 of which were deaths by cholera. CINCINNATI, JUNE 12.—There have been eight deaths from cholera sir.ce yesterday. The weather is cloudy. The produce markets are unchanged. 8ALT1.3101 , -E, JUNE 12. The Board of Health at Richmond report sfx new cases of cholera, and two deaths, fur the torty-ei:? ; ht hours ending Monday evening. PHILADELPHIA, JUNE 12.—Two cases of cholera, and one death, have been reported in our city to-day. ALBANY, JUNE 12.—The Board of Health report one new and fatal case of cholera. Two of the cases pre vioris!y reported have since proved fatal. Pam: FIGHT AT ST. LOUIS, &C.—ST. LOUIS, JUNE 11.—Two river. boatmen fought a prize fight on Sunday, during which one of the combatants lost an eye. Several hundred persons were present, and witnessed the brutal scene. Bill Curds, a noted character, was stabbed mortally. AUSTRIA. VIENNA, JUNE D.—The Wiener Zeitung of this day contains the ofiicial appointment of Baron Von Heynau to the command in chief of the Imperial troops in Hungary, in the Grand Duchy of Transyl vania, and cinsigns to him the government of those Crown lands which are now in a state of war and of siege. All the ofnciils and public functionaries are en joined to render obedience and assistance. The document is signed by the Emperor, counter signed by Prince Schwarzenberg. The Wiener Zeitung says, " That on the 16th the Magyar insurgents made a general attack on the Imperial army standing in the island of Schutte and the lower Waag, which was victoriously repelled at every point. The Imperialists took eight 12- pounders, 1,000 prisoners, and 60 horses. About 70 Hussars were left dead on the field. In this engagement a Uhland of the Kaiser regiment, who was pursuing an officer of Hussars, threw h is lance with such force and precision at a distance of 12 feet at his fugitive enemy, that the officer was pierced through, and fell from his horse. The corps that was attacked was the brigade under the command of Field-Marshal von Riesbach.3 RUSSIA AND POLAND. ST• PETERSBURGU, JUNE 13.—The official journal of this day states that, in consequence of a command received from his Majesty, public prayers will be offered in alt the churches of the metropolis on the 13th of June, on occasion of the speedy com mencement of the operations of the army. Letters from Kalisch, of the 10th, say that the cholera is raging fearfully in the Russian camp at that place, and that trom 30 to 50 men die of it daily. ASSAULT OF Aims —On Saturday an assault of arms took place at Willis's Rooms, milder the patronage of Colonel John Hall and the officers of the Ist Regiment of Life Guards. There etas a large and highly respect. able attendance of visitors present, who appeared to take a warm interest in the proceedings. The exhibition comprised swordsmanship, stick-play, sparring, and oth er amusements, and was comm ence d b y M-sisrs. - Arnold and Sherry taking the fag. They were followed by Messrs. Bushman, jun., and Jackson, Syrgeant Tuohy and Mr. A. Sherry, Sergeant Collins and Mr. Winterbottom, each pair of whom showed the most surprising mastery of their weapons, and the due combination of ehgance with dext:rity. This part of the performance was suc ceeded by n sabre encounter between Mr. Bushman and Sergeant Tuohy, in which the latter, notwithstanding his marvellous rapidity and and !city nt manner, was obliged to euccneeh to the calm and tell-directed skill of the former. A still more interesting exhibition was the opposition of the bayonet to the sword, for the pur pose of testing which is the most effective weapon. The mwket, with sluing bayonet attached, was wielded by Sergeant Tuohy in the first instance, Mr. Bushman taking the sword. After a time the former, getting rather the worst of it, the different weapons were changed, et a vo tee hands of Mr. Bushman the victory, which seemed at First to rest in favour of the sword, was eventually decided for the bayonet. Nothing could be more satisfactory than the proof which S-tturday'a ex hibition supplied, that in resolute hands the bayonet is one of the most eff-ctive of all our weapons of war. After this part of the p ,, rfortnance.4 had terminated. Mr. Bush. man performed the feat of cutting through a large leg of mutton with one sweep of the sabre. He also severed a thin handkerchief, previously placed on his sword's edge, and handed round the large bar of lead which he had cut in two, two clays previously before her Majesty in Holland Park. After some very clever stick play, young Keene, the well known pugilist, put on the gloves with Mr. Arnold, the b.mefielare, and some sparring commenced, which excited a very lively interest, in none more so, judging by appearances, than in Sir R. Peel, who, with two ef his sons, wag present. DESTRUCTIVE FIRE. WANSTEAD, SATURDAY EVENING.--Between one and two o'clock this day a fire broke out in a hay stack on the premises of Mr. Richard Plaxton, known as Cann Hall Farm. Every assistance that could be obtained was speedily brought to bear, but all efforts proving ineffectual, a communication was made by electric telegraph to the London tire brigade, which immediately started for the - scene of the confla gration. On the firemen reaching Mr. Plaxton's they found four large stacks of hay in one body of flame, and their p r i nc i pal exertions werej therefore directed to the ldinsafety of the hous e , grana r i es, an d ot h er surrounding buigs, upon which the engines were playing up to a late hour. The four ricks Of hay were completely destroyed: Tho origin of the fire has not been as certained. Et/ELEIGN rfoßsEs•—rne importation of horses from that Continent appears now to have become a feature in the rpgular sup-plies from abroad. The following arrivals of horses bare taken the continental states of Euro lately i n t h e metropolis from Pe:—Th e Columbine, from Havre, has brought 7, consigned to on e party; the Tri ton, from Ostend, 14, similarly consigned the Lion, from Harlingen, 6, consigned to order; the Trit on, f rom 0-tend, 21. consigned to two separate parties; th e Tri dent, from Hamburgh, 7, consigned to a west-end dealer; the Antwerpen, f rom A n t wer p, 13, consig ne d to two eminent dealers in tho metropolis, with numerous other importations of a similar nature, Within sllese few days, from the same places. CONTINENTAL TRAFFIC. NEWHAVEN.—We are glad to find the number of passengers increasing between the parts of Newhaven and Dieppe. The fest sailing steam boat Magician, now performs the passage regularly three times a week each way. On Friday, the 15th instant, she arrived with 49 passengers at this port, and on the following day sailed for Dieppe with 30. The arrival and departure is an object of attraction to the locality, and no doubt the Packet Wharf will be much fre quented as soon as the intended very important and desirable improvements are carried into effect, by widening the east pier and deepening the harbour. The voyage is accomplished in about five hours and a half ; and Newhaven is now the shortest, cheapest, and most direct route for London and Paris. The Brighton and South Coast Railway, and the General Steam Navigation Companies united, enable any one to have the option of return tickets (extending to 1.5 days) for either London or Paris. The large wharf at Newhaven adjoins the splendid building called the London and Paris Hotel, of which Mr. Bacon (of the New Steine Hotel, Brighton) is the landlord, and supplies on a moderate scale of charges. The hotel is tastefully and elegantly furnished, and every facility and convenience is given for embarking and disembarking at the quay where the steamer lies ; and, on the other side of the hotel, under cover, passengers may step from the railway carriages to the hotel, a portion of which is used for the Customs. The structure of the hotel com mands extensive sea and land views—of the ship ping, the Downs, and of the deep and noble bay of Seaford—and is contiguous to th e mout h o f t h e har bour. The hotel is of great magnitude, the rooms being numerous, spacious, and lofty; and it is well adapted in every resp ec t f or a very extensive business for passing travell ers an d v i s i tors, also for sea-bathing residents. The neighbourhood of Newhaven is diver sified by hill as well as valley, and the Downs, which appear to dip at this p o i n t, comman d t h e most extensive views of Brighton and Wor thing on the one hand, and Seaford hills, town and hay ; where during strong easterly winds, a con-iderable number of vessels anchor for shelter, and is a site much recommended by her Majesty's Harbour of Refuge Commissioners for a national breakwater, at an estimated cost of 1,250,0001., having great depth of water there at all tides, and lying midway between Dover and Ports mouth—and tseachy Head still farther east, on the other. Newhaven promises, from situation, to be come a great naval station as soon as the Govern ment funds can be provided for the propose,l harbour of refuge. This port being nearer to London than Portsmouth or Dover, gives a superior advantage to Newhaven, and will increase the revenue (already considerable) obtained from the passage and goods' traffic on the Newhaven line. Every facility required by the officers of Cus toms, for examination and passing of luggage, have been fully supplied by the company. Passports are ob tained at the wharf, and nothing is omitted to make Newhaven pre-eminently (A. 1) the best port for French traffic. A new town is gradually springing up near the railway station, and the widening of the harbour will, most probably, lead some commercial enterprising men to a most desirable and no doubt profitable spe culation in the immediate locality—that which is al ready half formed by nature itself, particularly n'ar Sleeper's Hole, and must strike every observer, viz.— the erection of Docks near the mouth of the Ouse, and Lewes would soon follow the example. Newhaven must eventually become what nature has so visibly intended—the best harbour on the southern coast.— Sussex Express. LAW INTELLIGENCE. COURT OF QUEEN'S BENCH, June 25. THE QUEEN V. WALKER AND PAWLE. Mr. Cockburn, Mr. Bodkin, and Mr. Seymour ap peared for the prosecution; Mr. B4dantine conducted the defence of Walker, and Mr. Sergeant Wilkins that of Pawle. This was an indictment for a misdemeanour. The indictment contained two sets of counts; the first for obtaining certain bills of exchange under false p retences; end the second cha rg i ng t h e two defendants with having conspired together for the purpose of obtaining these bills. It appeared that the prosecutor, a person named Clements, had been a schoolmaster at Turnham-green, but that in 1845 he took a house, or lodgings, in Lowndes square, proposing, as he said, to retire from business, but he engaged in railway speculations, and became some irnes pressed for money. He held 615 shares or scrip certificates in railway companies, for which he had paid two guineas a share, and being in want of some ready money, he applied to Walker to borrow for him a sum of 1501., on the security of these shares, 120 of which he proposed to deposit with Walker. That person, who had acted as the prosecutor's attorney for three years or more, said that he himself had not the money, but that he would obtain it from a friend, whose name, however, he declined to give to the prosecutor. Nothing was said about interest, as the prosecutor was so much in want of an immediate 'Min of ready money that he did not feel inclined to dispute upon that subject. -This was in March, 1846. In April, 1846, the prose cutor wanted some more money, and Walker undertook to get it from the same fri en d, b u t sa id t h at this friend would require, besides the deposit of shares, that certain bills should be accepted by the prosecutor, A bill for 3001., payable in two months, was therefore accepted by the prosecutor, who got only 282/. 18e, a sum of 17/. 23. being deducted for interest. This bill was not enforced when it became due ; but in November Walker applied for en additional sum, 781, to be paid to this friend or interest, observing that if this was not done the friend would sue on the bill, and give up the shares for what he could get. The prosecutor refused this sum, but after wards gave a bill for 501, and paid it, but being after wards a parry to an action brought by him as the owner of these railway shares against the directors of the company, he applied to Walker to get them produced in court, as part of the formal evidence in the cause, when Walker said that his friend refused to produce them except upon the further payment of a further sum of 1001. for interest. This sum the prose cutor refused to pay, notwithstanding the advice given to him by Parole, who appeared to be Walker's clerk, that he had better pay it than be defeated in the action. The refusal, however, did not seem to be conclusive, for the parties met the next morning, when Walker produced three bills which he had prepared fur 501., 401., and 251, at different but not distant dates, which the prosecutor accepted, it being then arranged that Pawle should hold the bills as trustee for both parties, and that the bills should not be negotiated. Walker took prosecu tor's seal, and pretended that he had sealed up the bills in the presence of the friend who advanced the money. At this time the prosecutor had got another attorney, in the person of Mr. Lane. and as the prosecutor swore, Line was, by the defierlant's desire, left uninformed of the transaction and was not present. The scrip certifi cates or shares were, in consequence of those bills being given, produced at the trial, and immediately after it the defendant Walker came to the prosecutor and asked to have them returned, but the prosecutor refused to return them unless his three acceptances were delivered up, or the name of the" friend" given him. They were not de livered up to him, notwithstanding a promise of Walker that they should be delivered up, and notwithstanding that the prosecutor allowed the defendant 12s. 6d. as fur the stamps that had been spoiled, but the prosecutor hed been obliged to pay the 501. and the 401. bills, and had been threateeed with proceedings cn the 251. bill, and had been actually sued upon the 3001. len The false hood of the pretence was established by the evidence of a person named Tinghy, who swore that about the time referred to as the time of the trial he had advanced 2401. to the defendant on the deposit of 240 shores of the railway company in question, without any stipulation whatever as to the peyment of interest to him from the defendant, for the advance. He after wards returned these shares to the cempeny, and got for them nearly as much as he had advanced upon them. This was the obtaining under false pretences which formed the subject of the indictment. The defence relied on was the improbability of Cle ment':; tale, and the tact that he was engaged in railway speculati ins and had become embarrassed, so that no one was like!) , to advance money to him except upon getting every possible security for its repayment. Lord DENMAN left it to the jury to say whether it was possible to reconcile all the parts of Walker's con duet with the supposition of his innocence. As to Pawle, the case against him was undoubtedly weaker than that against Walker. In the fi rs t pl ace , h e was 'Walker's clrk, and there was no proof that he had not relied en tirely on his master's representations, or had not given his advice and entirely conducted himself in the full l' e ,i r t t h ai o n f ly th: o tLu i t d h en o o f e t t h o o serepresentations.warrantcharger There con s w p was certainly As to the main charge, that this was a mere manoeuvre toifetthejurors thought money for a client from a person who did not seembegtofteieniatrtieclhe highest credit, both the defendants must was nothing to show that any part of the mo,nabutsthere tinned was applied to the account of any client, ' n or l3,3ti it appear that Clements himself was a debtor to alker in respect of any other transaction. The jury, after a short consultation, on dPawle on both charges, and acquitted Walker the charge of Walk e e p r re G tQ u n il e t e y s. on the c C h o a n r s s p e ir o in f g o w bt i a th in l in 'a g wi t i h e e bills fo su u n nd under false I am living at Lower Berkeley-street, Grosvernor-square. , I was consulted by my sister about the plaintiff. I re ,' member Mr. Ripley and my n ,, phew going down to fetch up the plaintiff, at the desire of the mother. I saw her the morning after her arrival. In my opinion her mind was under a strange delusion. The only answer I could get from her was, " The, Lord's will" that she should live din at Charlir!ch, and that was the only reply I could obtain from h3r. I give directions that a medical man should be sent for, and that she should not be left alone, as I thought she might do herself some injury. Cross-examiued—l was the first to recommend that a medical man should be called in. Thomas Morton—l am a fellow of the College of Sur-seons, and was called to see the plaintiff. I exa mined her, and found that she had left 11 , :r home to fol low a person of the name of Prince, whom she believed to be Almighty God. She declined at first to reply to any of my questions. She said I had no right to ask any questions whatever. Afterwards she replied as to the state of her health. I have had considerable expe rience in cases of insanity, and had no doubt of the pro priety of signing a certificate stating her unsoundness of mied. engineer, a farmer, a solicitor, and two blood-hounds; and in it all prayer was abandoned, which was one of the duties emphatically en j oined upon us by our religion ; and though he could n o t but feel disgusted at that, and at the efforts of this sect to creep into families and spread misery and desolation wherever they went, yet, if the plaintiff was of sound judgment, he admitted that her opinions upon such subjects were no justification to put her under any restraint. But if she was not a free agent, and had been irresistibly drawn into a vortex of low and degrading asscciations, it was incumbent upon her family, not merely as a right, but as a high moral duty, to pluck her from her dangerous position. In 1844, the mother of the plaintiff was left a widow with seven daughters, two of them being married, and five un married. The family resided at Rose-hill, in the most perfect happiness; but unfortunately Mr. Prince, who was the curate of the neighbouring parish of Stoke, and who had either been dismissed from his office or had resigned it, exercised a most fatal intuence upon the family. After preaching about the country in the open air, he went to Brighton, and in some way or other managed to communicate with the daughters. Three of them, it appeared, left fur Brighton, where they took up their residence, and where they were in the habit of attending the ministry of Mr. Prince. They afterwards returned to a place called Charlinch, where they formed a notion that it was the will of God that they should be united to three of the members of the Agapemone, which had been established there. Their marriage took place accordingly, notwithstanding the remonstrances of the motheneach of the daughters having 6,0001 in the Bank of England in their own name; those sums immediately became the property of their respective husbands. It would have been thought that, haviug obtained so much of the preperty of the family, their exorbitant desires would have b. en sa tisfied, and that they would have spared the two re maining daughters. But in the month of December, 1845, a Mr. Starkie and a Mr. Turner came to Rose. hill to carry away another daughter. They suc ceeded in effecting their object, although Mrs. Nottidge endeavoured in every possible way to dissuade her from going with them. Mrs. Thomas, one of the daughters who had been previously married, however, left the Agapemone, and returned to her mother's roof, and in consequence of the information which she gave, the mother was induced to entertain apprehensions re specting her only other remaining daughter, who was then at Charlinch. Knowing that she was of unsound mind, and by no means a free agent, she desired the two defendants to go down to Charlinch and release her from the degrading position in which she was placed. They did so; and after getting possession of her person, they placed her in the Hauwell Lunatic Asylum, having, iu the first instance, obtained a medical certificate of her mental incapacity to act for herself. There could be no doubt about the state of her mind, for he should prove that when admitted she was in a state of great excitement, declaring that Mr. Prince was Gial Almighty—that he was God mani fested in the flesh. They could easily imagine that such would be the effect upon a weak minded person, of nervous and irritable temperamenr, when such tenets as Mr. Prince's were made known to her. In May, 1848, she was discharged by the Commissioners of Lunacy, on the ground that they thought she was capable of acting for herself. But it did not say much for her sanity, that immediately after being released, she went to the Bank and transferred over the whole of her money to Mr. Prince, and gave him the uncontrollable dominion of it. And it was strange that Mr. Prince, who was the moving spirit of all, had not been brought forward as a witness. Jf (said the Learned Counsel) daueh ter after daughter had been sacrificed to their mer cenary views, and not being satsified with the misery which they bad produced, they had endeavoured to grasp the one remaining daughter; and if they (the jury) believed that daughter was of weak mind, easily excited and influenced when such awful thoughts as those already mentioned were continually addressed to her, he would ask them with perfect confidence, would they have aliowed her to remain exposed to dangers both with respect to her present and eternal welfare, or would they not not rather, acting upon the motives which influenced the two defendants, have felt justifi. d in rescuing her from her degrading position? On the one high ground of morality alone would he rest in submitting this case to them, confidently trusting that HOUSE OF LORDS, June 25. the result would be a verdict for the defendants. The Learned Counsel made a powerf u l a n d e l oquent Their Lordship s me t a t Fi ve o ' c l oc k. speech, of whi c h th e a b o ve is o n ly a resume, and at its PE I'ITIONS. Lord BROUGH A M presente d a pet i t i on from Man , conclusion a suppressed burst of applause cause from the auditors in the court. cheater, compl a i n i ng o t t h e state o f t h e law respecting judicial oath s, an d i n d o i ng so expressed his belief The following witnesses were then c e ll e d : — Mrs. Nottidge—l ton the mother o f th e pl a i n tiff , and that evidenc e i n courts o f l aw s h ou ld a l ways b e taken lived at Ro se -hill w hen m y h us b an d di e d , w i t h my upon oath. Lord CAMPBELL thought there might be persons daughters, in 1844. My unmarried daughters were who would be more bound by an oath than by affirma living with nie in 1843. Mr. Prince came to preach at ( j ug. Stoke, and my daughters sometimes went to his church. The Duke of CLEVELAND presented a petition I heard of his going to Brighton. Louisa (the plaintiff) complaining of the increase that had recently taken and Agnes took a house at Brighton. That was before elace in the number of beer-houses, and praying the the death of their father. I sent for them from Brighton , House to take steps to limit them in future. when he was dying, and when they came they said they I Lord MONTEAGLE presented a petition to the should not bare done so but for the " will of God." He contrary effect, and praying that beer-houses . might be died in May, 1844, end my d aug h ters returne d to recognised by law. g Brighton in August. Cl a r a s t a y e d w i t h me . I after- Lord STANLEY presented two petitions against the wards went to Brighton and took up my abode with admission of Jens into Parliament; also a petition from them, but I did not join them in their devotions, and I 1 the Lancaster a nd Car:isle R a il wa y C ompany, praying told them I would never r ece i ve M r . P r i nce i nto my for the re-committal of a certain Railway Bel. He thought house. One of my daughters had married Mr. Ripley, 'it would be dedrable to refer the petition to the Board and the other the Rev. Mr. Roberts, rector of Heverhill. of Trade to determine whether that Bill should to re- I remember Mr. Prince corning to the houie, but I would committed or not. not see him. I was compelled to lock myself up in my The Earl o f GRANVILLE w i s h e d to guar d h i mself bedroom to prevent hi s in trus i on upon me . I recollect a ss eeeee easte a n opinion. on the petition, bur there my- awirgetters - going on a the opening of the chapel at Charlinch. They showed that it ought not to pass without scrutiny. were to return on the Saturday. But only lAs to the suggestion of a reference to the two came back, and my daughter, the p lain ti f f Thud of Trade, if such course were ad o pt e d th e (Lo Lisa), not until Sund a y morn i ng. I spo k e to h er Board of Trade would devote its earnest attention to the on the impropriety of travelling on a Sunday. Louisa subject and report as so o n as p oss ibl e . said .11r. Prince had written a pr a y er w hi c e said they muse, Lord BROUGHA.M und erstoo d t h a t genera ll y i t was not travel on a Sundry, b ut then he made another, an excellent Bill, but that justice required some alteration when he said it was the " will of God " they could • in its provisions. travel on a Sunday, and she also told me with tears in Lord PORTMAN recommended that the petition her eyes th a t th e ot h er t h ree s i sters were go i ng to be should be referred to the Committee, with power to refer married, as it w as th e " w ill of Gee" that they should to the Board o f T ra d e. then marry. She then told me that " Brother Thomas" After a few words from the Marquis of ORSIONDE, was coming to sleep there that night. I said I would Lord MONTEAGLE expessed a doubt as to whether not consent to that, 'this " Brother Thomas" after- the reference to the Board of Trade could take place wards married my daughter Agnes. The plaintiff said consistently with a due regard to the privileges of the it was of no use my objecting to his coming, as it was H ouse. the " will of Ged ' that he should, and in he would Lord STANLEY would then move that the Bill be come, and accordingly in he came at ten o'clock at night. re-committed, with power to the Committee to ask for I said I should leave the house if this were done, for it the assistance of the Beard of Trade. was very improper. My daughter went up to him, and After a few words from the Mtrquis of ORMONDE, when they came down they told me, that it was the Lord PORTMAN referred to the standing order " will of God," and stop there his would. In consequence g i v i ng power to the Chairman of the Committee to re of this I went to a friend's house that night; and on the port that an unopposed Bill should be proceeded with as next day, when he had left, I returned. They then an opposed Bill. told me, that he should return at night, and that The Duke of RICHMOND thought it was always it was the " will of God," th a t anot h er matt (Turner) better to hear a party, than t o re f use to hear him. lie should also come with him. I objected, but was opposed to referring the Bill to the same Corn they said it was the " will of God," and they m i ttee. must submit. I then wrote off to Mr. Ripley to Lord REDESDALE said the Bill was an opposed come down. It was impossible for any man to be Bill. He thought that the House would do right to more kind than he had been to all of us at all times. I refuse as being contrary to pre afterwards heard that the marriages were to tak e place eedent to receive this petiti on , at Swansea, and I went down to prevent them, but it After a few words from Lord BYRON, the motion was of no use, for they said it was the " will of God" was agreed to. that they should be married. After this I went to RELATIONS WITH SPAIN. Rose hill, who re the plaintiff and Cornelia were. That The Earl of ABERDEEN rose to draw the attention was in December, 1845. Mr. Starkie and Mr. Turner of the House to the state of our relations with the came to Rose. hill. From what was said to her the Spanish Government. If it h a d not b een f or t h e plaintiff said to me s h e must go, but that it was tearing man y great events Which had taken place in Europe, the flesh from her bones to leave me, and th a t i t was t h e the state of our re l ations with Spain would no doubt will of God" that she should go, and go she must. long since have attracted the attention of their Lord- The in n gave the plaintiff two hours to pack up, and at ships. It was now more than twelve months since the expiration of that period they drove up in a carriage, our relations with the Court of Madrid had Y been interrupted, and our amb assa d or h a d b een dismissed and took h e r awa y. Th at was t h e l ast t i me I saw m daughter until she was brought back by the defendant. with contumely. It was clear that a Government lam now seventy-six years of age. I went to Wey- h a d a right to dismiss an ambassador. The Rege n t mouth to find my daughter and to bring her away. I Orleans had not only dismissed the Spanish had heard that s h e was li v i ng at W et mout h i n the Ambassador to the Court of France, had n ot on ly sent hi m _ r greatest sin and ini qu i t y. I t o ld M r . Ri p l ey o f what I hi s p a ssports, but had caused him to be arrested nod sent had heard from several friends, and from many letters. as a prisoner to the frontier, and had afterwards justified These reports I communicated to the defendants, and his conduct in the face of Europe. The Spanish Govern they went down to Charlinch in consequence. When I was merit had not gone so far, they had merely sent our at Weymouth I saw two of my other daughters, but they Ambassador his passports. He did not mean to say refused to give me any information as to where she was. that the Spanish Government was justified in so doing. I was six week s ma ki ng my searc h , and was not sue- He did not believe they were ; but up to that time cessful. I offered a reward, but it was no use. I con- no explanation or reparation had been made. That ap stilted the two defendants and Mr. Pepys as to what peered i ncre dible. —(Hear, hear.) Th e y ma y h ave could be done. I afterwards found a c l ue t o w h ere she thought that our ambassador w a s th e f r i en d o f anarc h y my daughter away as q u i c kly as th e y cou ld ; an d at was, and I then begged of the d e f e nd an t s t o go and bring and revolution, but it was their d u ty to a dd uce proo f s in once justific ition of theft. belief. H owever, it was not hi s down they went, for I was in such a wretched state intention to examine into the causes of the persuasion of of mind about her. I saw thorn with my dau g hte r on the Spanish Government th a t our A m b assa d or was ex their return. She was br oug ht a t once t o me, an d I ceedingly hostile to them, and the aider and abettor of conversed with her. This was at Mr. Ripley's, in anarchy and revolution. It was evident that Government Woburn-place. She told me that if it were the " will of feared this country a n d i ts re p resentat i ve , an d acte d God" she should be at Ch ar li nc h on t h e Wednesday. under a very strong impression of the sort to which he This was on the Monday. I put down on paper what she said. It was w h en I s p o k e t o th e pl a i nt iff ab3ut had alluded. B u t t h a t was no justification of the act to which he now drew attention. The question now rested Mr. Prince that she said, I know no such person. God between the two Governments. The gentleman who was now dwells only at Charlinch, in the flesh of him I once our Ambassador at the time had amply justified himself, knew as Mr. Print©. God, who made all, and all the and received new honours and a more important appoint world, is now manifest in him whom I once called Mr. meat. The question, he now repeated, rested with the Prince. He has entered his tabernacle of flesh among Government. What he had witnessed lately of' the con men, and I have seen God face to face. He will deliver duct of the Spanish Government made him exceedingly me wherever lam taken. After this I sent for my bro- anxious upon the subject of our relations with that they, who saw Louisa, and by his advice the medical men w fo e r_R r e e e s c e h n . t a f s o t r teipr:as quiet as possible. m co o u r c e nT s 3 t ' a . ble T th h a e n The LORD CHIEF BARON—Why did you not have 8 to dread from internal disturbances, that they could h h a a d d ae t w urn ao ed li o tt u le t Spanish ish anticipated, G overn Government commission of lunacy; why lock her up for fifteen spare eight or ten thousand troops for service in Italy. months? You should have had the sanction of the law es lag M t i te e m ito at wn Ea said it was done with the view of keep ress Cross-examined— had no communication with daughter from the time Mr. Starkie fetched her away until Mr. Ripley and my son brought her back. At this conversation my daughter said she should never die. If she would have retired with me to R use•hill, in the care 1 of a keeper or otherwise, I would have taken her to sear relations with that Government wee© C important, and our misunderstanding with it had delayed the settlement of a treaty for the introduction _ manufactured and cotton goods, which had been m . o. our for thirty If thepresent Government in my object for thirty years. Spain remained in officehe rangement of our differences e pendel greatly upon ourselves. caution would be mixed .dereacea looked for a satisfactory ar with them, but that de lves. He trusted that due with an earnest endeavour to existing between the i Rose-hill, but my daughter said that she sheathe go arrange the unhappy a din . where it was " God's will." My intention in getting he r two countries, and t t hanother effort would be made to to town was to keep her under my roof with a up keeper, if necessary. I did not wish to have a keeper, if she would remain under my roof and control without; and then it' she still insisted upon . returning t l o vi Char- trade. Hwould ' en up a new market for our o now la a P sk whether there was any prospect of a speedy of our diplomatic relations with Spain? The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said renewal that he did not i intend to go into any discussion respecting the recent ]inch, I meant to put her in a lunatic , a lu e) in eu b trl re ,silteefd i excluiion of her Majesty's representative from Spain. my daughter twice . in the lunatic as) her there I few t That had already been done, and after full consideration town for Rose-hill. I also saw a there daughter said - . could be but one opinion upon the subject, that a months afterwards, but then my y I never hear i justification and explanation was due from the Spanish she ht .d not any mother. that I had said . ' Government, but up to that moment nothing had been either of my daughters shespoolsayd live and die i. ' (lone that was satisfactory. He regretted much that that it was my intention slid. any such thin: ' that was so, but they were always ready to accept a the luneti a asylum. I had never . riff to be released reparation, and with that object an offer of mediation on Mrs. Coble asked me to allow the plea , from th© a sylion, an d lso said that shewanted to sea the part o • t h e King of the Belgians to mediate, b a d not me; but I said I would no t se e her, as she said ee she had been d eclined. That monarch, who was so well fi tte d a, for the office, had not received on the part of Spain any no mother. It was part of my directions th ~ withtn offer of reparation which he thought himself' justified daughter should not be allowed to communicatedin recommending to the consideration of the Bri any person Out with my femily and my friends. I ex- tish Government. —(Hear, hear.) The personal eluded the d aughters at the Agapemone, of course, honour of our distinguished representative was from all census unieation with her. hound up with the public honour, and if even thro ug h dau Re exam m inred—l d was acted ected under the firrn belief that m y him any communication was made, he could only say to the defer: Ante ghter's in aff when I gave the direction that it would receive their immediate attention. All , I offers autae hithezto on this subject were not concessions Ur. John Peer s, the brother a ors,Nottidge, s4id---. 4 Dr. Rowland and Dr. Stillwell confirmed the foregoing evidence of the unsound state of mind of the plaintiff; which was als) confirmed by Dr. Turner, a gentleman of forty years' experience in these cases. The usual hour having arrived for the rising of the Court, the case was adjourned until tomorrow (this day). 1 POLICE INTELLIGENCE. WORSHIP -STREET. A respectably•dressed elderly person, who refused to give either name or address, was placed before Mr. Ar nold, charged with repeated acts of gross misconduct, upon Hackney Downs, towards several ladies and their servants residing in that neighbourhood. Inspector Coward, of the N division, stated that for ! some weeks past numerous complaints had been lodged at the police-stations, respecting the disgusting conduct of a man who was in the habit of lurking about the Downs at the hours when they were most frequented by unprotected ladies, with their nursemaids and children, for the purpose of air and exercise, and subjecting them to insults of the most offensive and indelicate description. Two or three constables in plain clothes were accord ingly directed to keep a vigilant watch for the detection of the offender, but all their efforts were unsuccessful until that morning, when Devitt, 310 N, who was se• creted behind a hedge, observed the prisoner advance from a clump of trees, and, walking directly up to a young woman who was in lan ndance upon some chil i dren, deliberately expose himself. The young woman I instant!) , withdrew with the children, and the prisoner then proceeded in the direction of some ladies, who scream( d and fled upon being subjected to similar We i mous conduct, and the officer made his way to the pri Loner, who immediately took to his heels, but after a sharp pursuit was overtaken and secured. Three young women, servants of families in the neighbourhood, entirely confirmed the preceding state ment, one of whom stated that she had been molested in the manner complained of on various occasions during the last three weeks; and another, who had been insulted in the same way on the previous Saturday, stated that the prisoner was in the habit of carrying a telescope, to enable him to discern the approach of any person who would be likely to afford them protection from his scan dalous conduct. The constable Devitt produced a small brass telescope which he had found upon the prisoner on searching him, and seen him apply it to his eye immediately before he committed the outrage referred to by the last wit ness . When called upori 3 for his defenee, the prisoner, who was very much agitated, said that he would not attempt to deny the evidence in support of the last transaction, for which he felt thoroughly ashamed of himself, and entreated the magistrate to take a lenient view of his misconduct. in consideration of his wife and family, who would be sacted on hearing of his disgraceful position. Mr. ARNOLD said that he felt it his duty in a case of such an infamous description, to carry out the law to its utmost extent, and he should therefore commit the pri soner to hard labour, as a rogue and vagabond, for three months in the House of Correction. lAIPERIAL PARLIAMENT. COURT OF EXCHEQUER, June 25. Sittings at Nisi Prius at Westminster, before the LORD CIIIEF BARON and a Special Jury.) NOTTIDGE V RIPLEY AND ANOTHER. The trial of this singulur case was resumed to , day. After the examination of three witnesses, whose evidence was much of the same nature as that taken on Saturday, Sir FREDERICK THESIGER addressed the jury for the defence. lie was quite willing to admit that this was a very serious case, if it were true that the de fendants bad been guilty of the base and mercenary motives which had been attributed to them. It was said that the design the defendants, who stood in the intimate relationship of brother and brother-iu-law, vas to get possession of the property of this unfortunate lady (the plaintiff), for the benefit of themselves and their families, and in order to accomplish it that they bad not scrupled to take her from the quiet and tranquil home which she bad selected, and to expose her to all the restraints and horrors of a madhouse. Now, he would show that this was a very false and, at the least, a very exaggerated account of the real state of the case. He admitted that he had no right to interfere with the religious opinions of any person who was com petent to decide for himself, however absurd and extra vagant they might be. The Agapemone, or "Abode of L.ve," in which the plaintiff had taken up her abode. con taine4 AER . O . Dki ita inoweg bur ap9siotto clergyrwa, 4 cieg THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, JUNE 26, 1819. to our just desire for an honourable arrangement, but tor their own interest. Ile looked forward to a time when good sense would guide the actions of (he Govern ment of Spain, and that they would not think it inc at sistnt with their own honour to hear and receive the justilcation of Sir Henry Bulvver from the asper sions so unjustly cast upon his character.— (Hear, hear.) Before he sat down he might take that oppor. tunity of mentioning, in regard to a question put to him on a previous evening, respecting the communications that had taken place between the French Government and this country, in regard to the expedition sent to Rome, that he was now able to lay upon the table of tl4e House all the communications between the two countries in reference to the affairs of I'aly. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE presented a petition from the Lord Mayor and Common Council of the City of London in favoor of the Alteration of Oaths Bill. The Noble Marquis also laid upon the table of the House two returns from the Palace Court, ordered by their Lordships. PACKET COMIUNICATION BETWEEN SCOT. LAND AND IRELAND. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY moved that a Se lect Committee be appointed to inquire into the expe diency of removing the Packet Station and communica tion between the South-west of Scotland and the North of Ireland, and to ascertain the public grounds upon which the harbours of Port Patrick and Donaghariee are to be abandoned, and those harbours, which cost the country 400,0001., for the sake of a trifling saving, to substitute a long sea voyage of 90 m il es f rom Greenock to Belfast, which is now the object of her Ma. ,jesty's Government; and to report thereon to the Hou-c The question resolved itself into first, the expediency and advantage of a short passage; 2dly, the wisdom and prudence of abandoning it; and lastly, the saving to be thereby effected. On the first two points it was well known that all previous Governments had been agreed, and that at very great expense they had kept up this passage. He believed that the Chancellor of the Ex chequer himself at this moment was of opinion that it was the safest and most convenient, and that if he could follow his own convictions it would not be interfered with or abandoned. For his own part, he did not exactly understand with what department of the Go vernment the change originated. The postal com munications of these ports was formerly under the control of the Admiralty; he supposed it was now under the Noble Marquis the Postmaster-General. He was certainly very much surprised when he heard of the in tention to break up this packet station, and had felt it to be his duty to accompany a numerous and respectable deputation to Lord J. Russell, in order to lay the facts of the case before him, and, if possible, to induce the Go vernment to reconsider their decision. The able speeches made on that occasion by gentlemen fully conversant with the question, and the documents they had adduced, to all of which publicity had been given by the press, rendered it unnecessary for him to detain their Lord ships by any lengthened statement. The answer of Lord J. Rus , zell was in effect that he could not give any deci sive reply. He supposed the Nohl, Lord wanted time to confer with his colleagues. He had since received the following letter from the Noble Lord:— " Chesham-place, June 22, 1849. "My Lord,—Upon consideration of the memorial re specting the mail communication from Portpatrick to Donaghadee, the Government have come to the decision to abandon the postal route between those two places. The harbours will be attended to by the Admiralty, but it is not thought advisable to continue the expense of the packets when the service can be more cheaply pro vided for. "I have the honour, &c.. "J. RUSSELL." Now he thought he had a right to ask in what way the Admiralty were to keep up the harbours, and what ad ditional expense would arise from continuing the packets. The Queen's subjects could not make the passage in open boats, and after having, by a considerable expendi ture within the last two or three years, rendered the harbour fit for steam-vessels, he asked why it should now be abandoned, when the present voyage of three hours could be reduced to one hour and a quarter? The very small sum at which the mails could now he carried con stituted certainly a sufficient reason for a Parliamentary inquiry into the subject, especially after they had ex pended nearly half a million on the harbour. He believed that if the Government carried out its intentions in the course of a year or two they would find out the impolicy of carrying the mails 90 miles by sea from Greenock to Belfast, instead of the short passage between these two ports; and unless, in the meantime, they were attended to, they would be found choked up, and requiring another outlay to bring them into the efficient state in which they now were. He did not think that for the miserable saving of some three or four thousand pounds a year the inhabitants of that part of the country—nay, of the country at large—should be deprived of the benefit of the existing postal arrangements, and he added, that the Noble Marquis (Clanricarde), as an Irish man, should not be a party to such a paltry saving, to anything that would impoverish a district which, in ad dition to its former burdens, was now subject to a rare in aid. In fact, such was the effect of the announcement that the Government intended to abandon the mails, that in one instance three houses, valued at 450/., bad been already put up at auction, end only 55/. offered for them, the owner wishiug to go to America. He regretted that such a policy should be pursued, and still more that the Government did not advise her Majesty to visit Ireland. He was certain that the moment she set her foot on the Emerald Isle she would be received with such a cry of joy that she would forget. at least for the time. any other purr or her dominions. His fellow -countrymen were more sinned against than sinning —and it would be the happiest day they had ever seen it her Majesty's ad visers, overlookiig all the pretexts on which a royal visit had been from time to time delayed, would c0w...el her to go among her Irish subjects. This might be a di gres.ion, but, returning to the motion for a Select Cora rnittee, he thought he had made out a suffic;ent case for inquiry, and in conclusion he begged to move the motion of which ho had given notic Lord CA WDOR approved of the motion, and merely rose to move an addition to the inquiry proposed by the Noble Marquis. Last year, suddenly arid without any reason being assigned for the change, the mail commu ideation between Waterford and Milford Haven, a com munication which had continued for fifty years, and which was of great public utility, had been cut off. Great dissatisfaction and inconvenience had been caused, and he therefore wished to add words to the motion which would bring this case also before the Select Com mittee. The Earl of HADDING TON said that when he was in office the principle acted upon in deciding between a long land passage and a short sea passage, and short land passage and long sea passage, was to give the pre ference to the former. It was so long since his atten tion had been directed to the subject, that he did not remember the fact, but he thought that the Noble Mar• quis had made out a sufficient case for an inquiry, and he would add that he had never heard of any ships being lost. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE said that in not agreeing with the motion of his Noble Friend (tho Mar quis of Londonderry), or to the amendment of the Noble Earl opposite (the Earl of Cawdor), he had no desire to withhold from their Lordships any information con nected with the proposed change of packet station, but the subject was one which in no degree, he contended, ought to be submitted to a Committee of Inquiry. There were no theories in antagonism, nor was there any new system to be adopted. The question was one which could be at once decided on. Ho assured their Lordships that the change of packet had not been addicted on insufficient views of economy or ill judged parsimony, but after mature deliberation, and with an anxious desire to promote the best interest of the public service. There were circumstances which, in the case of steam-packet communication, bound the Government to look not only to the cost and expenditure, but to the general benefit of the country, but in the case of the Portpatrick and D maghadee steam-packet stations, they were in no way bound to regard the personal opinion of interested parties. He quite agreed, that as a general principle, the shortest sea passage that could be obtained was the most desirable; but the rule was liable to modification, and there was another principle which could not be over looked, namely, the observance of the routes which public opinion and public experience pointed out as the best to be adopted. The Noble Marquis then proceeded to show that the effect of the change of postal communi cation, as proposed by the Government, would be most beneficial for the correspondence, and that the time oc • cupied in the transit from Glasgow and Paisley to Bel fast, would be not only lessened four Hours, but that the letters would reach suffici ent l y ear l y for the first deli very. If Portpatrick were continued, an increase of cx pendituro would be required to keep up the proper means of inter - communication, and that was a proceeding he did not feel justified in recommending for the convenience of a small portion of the country.—(Hear, hear.) Sir John Rennie's opinion with regard to Portpatrick Har bour was likely to be more or less biassed by the parti cular circumstance of his having been the civil engineer of the works there; and it certainly was contradicted by the evidence of experienced naval officers, appointed to inquire into the subject. For the purpose of keeping up the Post-office traffic, there was no necessity for the continuance that of th e those h d h r a a r w b a o l u harbours, and the ed grantit lva was absurdotld e j o . suppose riously affect the north of Ireland, so as to prevent pay. ment of the rate in aid. After some brief observations from the Earl of GALLOWAY, The Marquis of LONDONDERRY replied, with• drawing his motion for the Committee, in consequence of the scanty attendance of Peers, but expressing his in tention to bring forward the subject again on a future day, by moving an address to her Majesty for copies of certain correspondence which had passed between the Post-office authorities and the parties who contracted for carrying the mails. THE INCIMIBERED ESTATES BILL. Lord CAMPBELL moved the order of the day for goinc , into Committee on this Bill, and stated, that on bringing up the report, he would move a proviso to one of the clauses, limiting the power of the Com• missioners to certain classes of applications by incuce 7 brancers. The Bill then passed through Committee, and was or. dered to be reported. The County Cess (Ireland) Dill was read a third time, and passed. The House then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, June 25. The SPEAKER took the Chair at a few minutes before Four o'clock. CONSIDERATION OF LORDS' AMENDMENTS. The Lords' amendments to the following Bills were considered and agreed to:— LeAs and Thirsk Railway (Power to guarantee Inte rest on certain Shares, &c.) Whittlesey St. Mary and Whittlesey St. Andrew Union Of Parishes, and for Improving the Tow n 9 f RE'ADINCrS. following Bids were read a tT,ird time ni-id passed: L-ancas!er and Preston Junction yA cts Aini , nthnerit (Posters to alter Tolls, and for appoint rya nt f o.llcer,). Taff V.rl, Railway - (Extension in Merthyr Tydfil). Tyne Ri7er Conservancy. illiams's CONSIDERATION OF REPORTS. The following R p iris were considered and agreed to: Airdrie Police and 'Municipal Bill. Flunwell Vent to Hastings 'Turnpike Road Bill. PETITIONS. The Sheriffs of London and Middlesex appeared at the bar and presented a petition from the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Corporation of the City of London in favour of the B-inkruptcy Bill ; also a petition against the Marriage Bill. Mr. LAW presented a petition from the Irish Society against the Leasehold Tenure of Lands (Ireland) Bill, an e. praying to be heard by counsel at the bar of the House. Mr. DEEDES presented petitions from Bromley and other places against trading in seduction and prosti tution. Mr. W. BROWN presented a petition from Manches ter in favour of the Bankruptcy rm. Mr. HALE presented a petition from Gloucester against the Attorney's certificate duty. Mr. ALEXANDER HASTIE presented a petition from Glesgow against the Marriage Bill. Mr. CARDWELL presented a petition from Liver pool, suggesting a clause to be inserted into the Bank ruptcy Bill, with respect to the arrest of debtors. Mr. FL BROWN presented a petition from Stirling in favour of the Health of Towns (Scotland) Bill. COLLIERY EXPLOSION AT ST. HELEN'S. Mr. WYLD begged to ask the Secretary of State if he had received any official intelligence respecting the explosion of a coal mine at St. Helen's, which happened a day or two ago? Sir GEORGE GREY said he had not received any intelligence, official or otherwise, of any accident of that kind at St. Helen's, though he had heard of the cir cumstance. Mr. WYLD then asked (as we understood) if the Right Hon. Baronet would have any objection to lay on the table of the House the official correspondence re specting the explosion at Hebburn. Sir GEORGE GREY said he would shortly lay the papers on the table of the House. PETITION OF MR. HERCULES HARRIS. Mr. ANSTEY presented a petition from Mr. Hercules Harris, a member of the Irish bar, who stated he was counsel for the plaintiff in a late action of replevin. The action had reference to the recovery of a pour-rate; and the petitioner complained that, having prepared a plea questioning the legality of the rate for which the distress was levied, the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in Dublin refused to allow the plea to be argued. INCUMBERED ESTATES (IRELAND) BILL. Mr. OSBORNE asked the Noble Lord at the head of the Government if he had any objection to state to the House who were the three Commissioners whom he pro posed to appoint under the Incumbered Estates (Ireland) Bill? Lord JOHN RUSSELL hoped to be able to do so before the session closed. THE IRISH CHURCH. Mr. ROCHE wished to ask the Hen. Member for Montrose a question relative to two motions on the paper for the 10th of July. Hie Hon. Friend, the Member for Middlesex, had a motion on the paper refer ring to the Irish Church; and his Hon. Friend, the Mem ber for Montrose, had a motion on the paper before that relating to British Guiana. Now the question he wished to ask the Hon. Member was, whether he would give way in favour of the motion for an inquiry into the state of the Irish Church. Mr. HUME said ne man was more anxious that the question of the Irish Church should be speedily disposed of than he was, but it must be remembered that the Government of British Guiana was at a stand-still, and he therefore could not give way, unless Government would give him a day for his own motion. Mr. REYNOLDS suggested that the Hon. Member could bring his motion on to-morrow. Mr. HUME could not do that; but he would discharge his notice, and bring the motion forward on going into Supply. Lord JOHN RUSSELL sail it must not be sup posed that he was a party to this arrangement. The SPEAKER remarked that it would be irregular to discharge the notice then. The subject then dropped. TRANSPORTATION (IRELAND) BILL. On the motion tor the third reading of this B:11, Mr. NAPIER said he should not take up the time of the House with any lengthened observations at this stage of the Bill, but he was bound to protest against this ex post facto mode of legislating in cases of con victed criminals. It was decidedly uncenstitutiocal, He thought the measure most uncalled fur and unconsti tutional, and he should therefore oppose the third reading. Colonel RAWDON also opposed the third reading of the Bill, and trusted that the House would never sanction a measure containing such provisions. Mr. SPOONER said it was his intention to vote against the Bill. The question involved in it was a great constitutional one, and it was to his mind an infraction of the constitution to bring in any Bill to enact an ex po.,t facto law, and which, besides, would have the effect of aggravating instead of mitigating the punishrw-nt of the pi r,tins at whom - It was - aimed. --- lie complained that no necessity had been shoe n for such a measure. It was true doubts had arisen in the highest legal quarters with respect to the right of the Crown to tracsport theseparties; but where doubts existed in such grave eases it was customary to give the accused the benefit of them.—(ilear, hear.) The Attorney-Gt neral, he believed, h ,c 1 failed to show sufficient c.tuae why the house should pass this mete ure. Sir GEORGE GREY said, that as far as he could see both the Honourable Gentleman who had just spoken had arrived at the cone!usion that the case was so clear that there was no need of discussion about it. The Honourable Gentleman had said that this Bill had come before the 8., use- sanctioned by the opinions of the high judicial authorities of the land, but he assured the House that no hesitation had existed in the minds of these authorities; but as there were *aid to be doubts existing on the subject, they had ad vised that such a 8.11 should be introduced. He must remind the House again that the position in which these parties stood was that of men whose lives were forfeited to the laws of the country. It is only at this moment by the mercy of the Crown that they are at present able to petition. lie must say that it was quite a mistake to say that this Bill was intended as au aggravation of punishment. Mr. FEARGUS O'CONNOR said he quite agreed with the regret which had been expressed by an Hon. Gentleman that so much extraneous matter had been introduced into this debate. lie had refrained from mingling in this debate as he did from all Irish debates. He thought it would be better if this matter were confined entirely to the Gentleman who had managed the measure. Mr. SHAH NIAN CRA WFORD wished to separate the matter from Ireland and Irish Members, and to argue it on constitutional grounds.—([lsar, hear.) The tact was that the House had untertaken to interpose between the prisoners and the courts of law. He would appeal to those Members who were in the habit of sup porting the rights of the Crown. Ile would appeal to the Hon. Member for Sheffield; and this appeal he might safely make, as although he was largely interested in Ireland, he represented a large constituency which was purely British, and he trusted that it would be re sponded to rightly.—(Loud cries of "Divide, divide.") Mr. REYNOLDS said, that as this was the last time when he should have an opportunity of speaking upon this question, as this was the last means that could be adopted before this measure passed into law, as this was the last act of the drama, he was, he confessed, surprised at the endeavours which were made to prevent one Irish Member from speaking. He was anxious to say that in voting against this Bill they were act voting against an act of mercy. The contrary was the case. So long as the prisoners were to be confined within the realm less ground of complaint would remain, but such was not likely to be the case. Did the Chancellor of the Exchequer ever attempt to put the expenses of this prosecution on the debit side of the account lie would be a little more careful of in curring any further. He had no hesitation in saying that the attempt of the Government to put down five men had not cost less than a million of the public inoney.—(Hear, hear.) Why, had they not been obliged to keep upwards of 30,000 troops in the country? That body of men had cost upwards of half a miltion, and it was proved that the army had cost more than it did two years before. Taking those with the cost of the constabulary, and the other necessary ex penses, it would appear that he had not been guilty of any great exaggeration in making this statement. Having stated this much on this the last op portunity of opposing the Bill, be should offer no further opposition to it, and content himself with simply record ing his vote. The House then divided, when there appeared—. For the amendment ... 27 Against it ... 159 Majority e . • ..• ... —132 Mr. ANSTEY moved a s an amendment, at line 15, of page 1, to emit the word " transportation," and insert " impisonment during t h e Queen ' s pleasure, or banish ment." There could be no doubt that transportation was a worse punishment than death itself. He would not inquire how far confinement during the Queen's pleasure fell shoat of that; a Jew years or a few months might deterenine it, but by the large construction of the words it might extend to the natural life of those unfortunate gentlemen. The Bishop of Tasmania stated in his repert, for which he received the thanks of Earl Grey, that although the rystem of punishment now followed in Van Diemen's Land was superior to any that had preceded it, ye t it had given rise to abominableiv i practices, and that nothing but a commission of ` 1 inquiry from E ng l an d, wi th full p owers in vestigation would ever bring them eur ely to light. The Honourable Gentleman said, the most di-gust. ing crimes that ever stained th e character of man , were perpetrated in the prisoners' barracks at Ho bart Town without least possible way of the L''Cci-e.ral elieePti • this Bill, and it a +mild i . preventing them." a ti s e . t to consign Mr. Sint . % • En ree possible for the Hons i e , to that infamous cenfieeist l e c a , u t g - h T ( h )f e e s q y u s a l l e i t r, n iu _ ri w yt e w : fa v ,,s u zi e tau f., tt ti uafnnoi:r formity of punishment, II the Right lion. Gentleman the Home Department cla7d i net re...lie on in favour of any one conseee roils the system in which (M on their arrival, necessarily.satnendwien,reentstin-'ur7bl.slvti'ltulzeiteel (Mr. Anstey) proposed b has tQueetrib'so pleasure for trans during imprisonment Hon. Baronet (Sir tation for life. He hoped por W. Molesworth) did not consider that there was a differ-, English, and more, between Irish, American rebels —nay more, that the latter be rewarded The ATTORNEY - . These pezkas ' it i‘ik.: l l , lLL oppos o motion. been 09 E 1 17010 91 high arem and Gov rt4nent wishing to act leniently towards then] , and is doubt exisrim; as to whether the Government hod the power or not to do so, tlAs Government wished t° r,ru-ve it; but the Hon. and Learned Gentleman wiadira the Covernment to ad' two worsts vrith respect persons who had thus been committed of hig h t - re2son, namely, either to hang or to impriso 3 them. Now the argument was 50 absurd tbs l he was sure it would not avail with tbill House. The G.olernrnent merely wisfit d to assimilate the Irish to the Engli s h l aw i n t hi s respect; and b e trusted the Erman would do nothing to restrict the pre . rcgative of mercy. Mr. LAWLESS inquired what might be done by ih e Government after these i.arties had been transported ?, The ATTORNEY- GENERAL rep li ed that it woo l ' be most improper to ans‘ier the question.—(flear.) After some observations from Dr. POWER and Pa r ' DICKSON, strangers were ordered to withdraw, and th e House divided, when there' appeared— For the amendment 2l Against it 146 Majority against it -125 The amendment was accordingly lost. On the question that the Bill do now pass having bee put,_ _ _ Mr. LAWLESS said that although he opposed the Bill, no more loyal man existed than himself; and now that the measure was carried, he once more felt it to be his duty to implore her Majesty's Ministers to sh° W mercy towards the prisoners. Lord J. RUSSELL said although there had hc ell much said in the course of this debate that might natu; rally have led to the expression of strong opinions 0 1 the offence of which th ose persons had been lotto guilty—that of high treason—yet he thought that th e House generally w ou ld agree w i th him that her Majesty 'e Ministers had carefully abstained from s lying anything too characterise the offence. He mu s t say t h at they bad so refrained in spit e o f t h e temptations, or rather Ine provocation offered to them in the speeches of som e Hon. Members, which raised the opinion that the au; meter of the offence was incon s i s t ent w i t h the charge °I the judge and the verdict of the jury. He had only t ° say that he believed the :deice which had been given to her Majesty w as th at of mercy—(Hear, hear)- o ° d , that in awarding punishment, th e feeling of Governmen t was not a vindi c ti ve one; b ut a feeting that, if the punishment were lighter than the offence merited, thef t would be chargeable with not taking proper precaution' fur the peace of Ireland. However painful it might b e to them to inflict a severe sentence, they had no alterntr tive but to award such a punishment as would afford 5 , warning again s t th e repetiti m of an offence which woul d endanger the tranquillity and security of Ireland. The Bill, after a few words from Mr. ANSTEY, wa g then pas , ed. POOR RELIEF (IRELAND) BILL. The House then went into Committee on the root Relief (Ireland) Bill; Mr. Bernal in the chair. Mr. STAFFORD rose and said that they were at It loss to know at what stage they should commence this Bill, owing to the absurd course pursued by the Hon. Member (Mr. John O'Connell) in moving the exclusion of strangers. With respect to the maximum ra te pro• . posed by the Bill, he w a s o pp ose d to i t , see i ng t h a t it had failed in this country. He found that the debt of all the unions in Ireland amounted to somewhere about 6,500,0001., and that the money was chiefly owing by the most distressed unions, and by this maximum rate they, show to the uni ons t h ey s h ou ld not have the support o f their own poor. For these reasons he must take the sense of the Committee against this clause. Mr. J. O'CONNELL said the Hon. Gentleman bad an opportunity of inflicting upon the House a second time an additional proof of his self-sufficiency, prosiness, and emptiness. He looked upon the maximum rate as being too high. Sir JOHN YOUNG supported the proposition of the Government. He suggested that, in addition to the ads vantages to be aff irded to the poor in Ireland, under this Bill, they should also increase the facilities of the. svork• houses in Ireland. He considered in-door relief the best and necessary mode of alleviating the distress. The distribution of food out of doors preserved life;_ but, as they were without c l ot hi ng, they were exposed _to a!' tacks of disease which was fatal in their state of desti tution. Mr. CLEMENTS said he did not think the maiimure, rate of seven shillings before aid was extended was not sufficient guarantee, because all that was required was, that due diligence should be used in the collection of the maximum rate of s t y en s hilli ngs i n t h e p oun d: The electoral division was, under this Bill, bound to contri bute two shillings in the pound upon the net annual value, beyond the five shillings for local necessities. This would have th e e ff ect o f prevent i ng capitalists from investing money i n th e cu l t i vat i on of the lan d. In fact, this Bill, which provides for extraneous aid. had . e pre vented a party fro m purchasing an estate in Ulster, b.n be g c tuse he wa s unw illi ng to incur the responsibility of being liable to contrib u t e poor rates to di str i cts over w hich_ had no control. Th e great ev il a t p resen t w as, that the people of Ir e la n d cou ld no t see th e i r wa y out of their difficulties, and this rate of two shillings upon the unio n would increase that, and, therefore, he should give his support to the amendment. Mr. FAGAN said he co ns idered this proposed in creased rating had the e ff ec t o f throwing ground out of cultivation. He thought it was necessary to have a max imum imuco rate fixed, and for th a t reaso n b e had, and would continue to support the proposal of the Government. Mr. H. HERBERT sa id h e wou ld g l a dl y acc ept the guarantee, but he did not consider it worth more than the paper it was written upon. They had resources now left; they wou ld not revert to the con-acre. Tho farmers could not, a s f ormer l y, support the poor by vo. luntary charity, because they we re th emse l ves re d uce d to a distreped condition. N e i t h er coul d the - gentr y kfford relief from want of means. It was therefore fal lacious to say, as the Noble Lord had done, that when they reached the maximum they might return to their termer resources. Unless the Noble Lord at the head of the Government gave them a guarantee as to what be should do when the maxi mum rate was ex h au sted, he certainly should vote for the amendment of his lion. Friend. Mr. GROGAN support -d the amendment. They were, in his opinion, doing a most serious injury to the people of Ireland, by l eg i s l at i ng f or t h em a s if tbe whole of the c oun t r y was lik e t h e western por tion of it, when the facts were otherwise. Ho denounced the 25. union rate to b e ra i se d, i n a ddi t i on to t h e 5 5 ., as most mischievous, and for his part he preferred 75., or even 9s. in the pound at once, to the plan now proposed. It was quite clear the mepsure proposed had not given confidence to the p eop l e, f or em i grat i on was g oing on this year even more rapidly than the last. Sir DENHAM NORREYS believed, that bad the measure suggested last year by the Irish Members to the Government been adopted, emigration would not have gone on as it had since dene, or be so much increased in the present year. Th en as t o th e o bj ect i on ra ised tha t the maximum rate proposed by the Bill would not be sufficient, h- had only to refer the House to what had been already collected. Of 130 unions in Ireland, out of the entire number there was not one In which 7s. in the pound was collected; there were only 'seven in which ss. in the pound was got in, and eleven in which 7s. was expended. The argument of the Hon. Member for Leitrim was that 7s. in the pound would Rot restore con tid-nee, but surely if that were to be the result what must be the consequence if an unlimited rate was to be pro• poscd. He contended that a maximum rate, such as that proposed by the Hon. Member for the City of Dub lin would be most disastrous, and for his part it appeared t, him to be impossible that the social and moral condi tion of the people of Ireland could improve unless con fidence were restored, which could only be done by such a measure as that now proposed. Sir JOHN WALSH complained that the House was not favoured during the debate with the opinions of any one Member of her Majesty's Ministers. He believed that in a large portion of Ireland the maximum rate would not be required at all—but in the distressed unions it would be perfectly nugatory. Some limit, how ever, he contended, ought to be put to the claims of those who demanded relief, or the whole frame of society would be destroyed.—(Hear, hear.) The poor-law had added to that destitution and misery in Ireland which it was intended to lessen. It appeared to him to be impossible not to conclude, from the papers before the House, th ree -f ourths of the distress had been created by the levying of the rates. The peasantry were reduced to beggary by the mode adopted for relieving the public distress. He had only risen to explain why be had come to a conclusion different to that of some of his friends with whom he usually acted, and that be intended to vote for the maximum rate proposed by Government. Mr. CORNWALL LEWIS said that the Hon. Member who had just addressed the House had com plained that no member of the Government had risen to express his opinions on the question before them; but he would remind the lion. Member that it was the less necessary that should be done at present, as Government.. had already expressed its views on the subject. They had, however, had the advantage that evening of hearing the matter discussed by several Irish Members; but be confessed that he had heard no answer given to the speech of the Hon. Member for Cavan (Sir J. Young). It had been contended that there was no precedent for a maximum rate. In the case of the highway-rate in England there was a maximum rate, and so far that was a precedent, but it was on a different subject, and he J aw of England there was no ad mitted it was not therefore a precedent. The only other unty of Surrey precedent was that referred to by Lewis) Hon. Member for Northampton. and he (Mr. C. Lewis) would call attention in to a t x h i i m s u c m ase r . a U te, nd b e u r t t i h n e t r e o c % and another In 1796 an Act was passed lessening the maxi. county a maximum rate hadbeen fixed in the last cen and in 1812, at the period of the greatest depreci• m t u . do s fe t i nt o ht n :, o a I tdh maximum. d c m u r i r t e t innegAy bttahhnaedtroetnhwi enags further depreciation the questio of prec e tention to the conditiond in which, question of a maximum peculiar grounds, he would call at must rest on its own the west of Ireland an ea, and °delaying for a series of years, a portion of the south has been parts of Ireland.their houses, and some • placed, tenants l • Landlords ers spreadin spreading couldthem notsel America going to ve g s e t o v tb er ei d r i ff r e e r n e t n s t , and that counts. almost resembled the condition of one subjected to an invading army. Suggestions were cons entmicated to Government from various quarters, that it necessary to fit a rate beyond which taxation ~ttwould d not go, or othervviso it was felt that the land not be cultivated. Ac log on the advice of the Commissioners and persons having local I aowledge, the Government bad come to the determi nation of fixing a maximum rate. If a rate of five shil had been rarely collected in the distressed unions they could hardly expect that a rate of five shillings could be increased. Therefore, by fixing a rate of five shillings, and a rate-in-aid of two shillings, they gave a confidenc e to ratepayers that, whatever might be the exigencies of future years, a rate of taxation b e y on d that would not t e imposed. He thought the fears of Hon. Members on that subject had been greatly exag gerated: The necessity of restoring confidence in the southern and western unions was never of more import anci) 111141 tit the genial In011aCill• Who Um. Motet