The Sun. — London, England, 1819-01-22 00:00:00

1 1) " . roll" )11 11 ttll/1.. ►ver~ . the otitiC P pq .' — ' "- u'f i,,,,ilii-v 1 : A . . rat i tle t r i n iiitefi 'pi:hitt - 6ns, res N ' e ' ry fr i ( d "at l‘ t l lle tt) ;„, -- 1 - etot .: o di es of the season. At a t Parliament ,• a- spirit of Cci 'l , t :; l ' t ,K r e.ta n P irt i l ° is d aff o e f Ct l ir l i l a n .iii t i t i t l a g iti l f ( e ) st ell itself in the attribute rather , t ° Ili Y. ' witi'eh Pant limes, than to:ally genetra tii,,,, e .Pressu re of the 14' 51 110u on the part of the people to untler- Constitution under o ihi e , the leisings of ( ti c oo w ii, boast or peace titlr co they liv e . We have \Ve see our re vett°:itl and tranquillity at home , ebranches of cam- Ittetu increasing, and ' ll s . t i le war reviving • 1 1 3 trp, ed (luting billet WIIIV.I Jat. .5.1i,i.. intercourse which 4 lioarisi . miter the tree int' • •p ti.,_ , _ II t), „ I shat -mill/log to re flect, which hitt7 dlfords. 1.10,v v.' contest, through \tti, passin g the severe t 4 lave so Triumphantly passe d , not hing .lave ginn ed, t t ...1 1 ) , ` , l to tarnish a single lame! we have Let ' 1, 1 bring discredit on our fairc that ithistriaus il. l !re not refuse to do justicet o . slin owes Si) gre'v1(111,11. to whom this coll.rittw3rio, for ,_:_ s ti a i t a debt of gratitude, to hint eil:iitntoallfotiniries iat4serrterits, m,y •put i on ii nods of h i s, great hiiti t ' a r iot more on the gr" than on his th rY character as a conquer or, q Hove ' d t , . of contine- • lid a.tion i n th e day pail] to his coml . itv 'ill ui a compliment ‘V *4 :! 9 P r" i',..ji, paid to 1;1, 4 • 'w splendid a compliment was 1 'in being selected to °e'lt Conintander, on il l -- . rt " 'led armies on the 'e,Cottitnattil. of the e° Ibi l l .• o f the troops of ei 'niaci n ; to the .comM"r“ much larger krtlidtions who: have hr?"gi't so much boil t,; ati,te-111110 tilt field than , ever Cl .e d by the twist qilf, l i i ''e . t 1 0:1)s too ‘ e°° ' 9l , an e t . 6 11 concur I li , '1 slid i.,...,,,,..,•1,ced Uinerals ; Ye to il . .. 'i , :-"- m ai ', not that to Ge , be.tiii t!itine,the chief Com: I► i . for then nog., e I iniself Ilito Nio Lail distinguish n ' bust for ' the. 14tnit,'„!°F th e armies' he led to v ictor. ; 1 i, How fully 11nii(le of lite Victories he gaine d by ( lie sl• 'l.itist• ' ' visdom of that c hoiceltet. tili tv . 'tied the % . . 1 t which he exec' i lilt 1.,,,411(1 moderation wit I to Min l--- Ilii iia ellit and delicate task assigne! fur these pre tl4•PlY for Et"."Pe' the necessity What can he ,I"ty measures no.longer exists. to _ ot. li lei tt 'uer field of congratutatio 1 to enable fi tite l tiroll"!*rital state of France such a . forces from Ili& Li Powe rs to withdr4w their t.„v,.._ than Iti k"uniiers,? What can be mote gta it l i t t .,:::: most litt oti " that nation, after ,fulfilling, with engagements, re it'iltable P n uctnalitY, nil i" engBe of nations, titA t i ( ' to its proper station in the sca le those of t h e ( 11 1 1 . 1. , , i t1l to (wile its councils .tto t1(. 6.1 -41° Peati Potters assemble(' togetherg each other iviq,',",l'te of friendship, not '‘'''g'lri n • l i -, „o liberal , 4ati tti k , jealousy of rivals, but acti Loge theitrilllglitened principles, and consulting ~ jet 1 "r th . r I' tion of the Gene .. rat Peace. Oar , I th is t. conso tt a ~ , hate particular , tils, f num ion of tl•ance, wt. thelast'3o years IlaS ti ("rioy, as the experience o f . is . 0. ___ ......1 la t i ee w os. how Much this countrynkrl a l l e i r ti e s ,l 7: . : ° Ol t 'biog. which can affect the o uter We see with . I We i :, 'l that neighbouring:State: . v after. being Qtt,,,ire the tifhirs of that country, „any re• v,lotibel by the tro - abled waves of s ' o cairn ; and Il'i„l'i'it'', gradually subsiding int o . a i us hope I liii I ." So • • tray 81 ill exist) let.. tl i it . r,ine agitation .. ,_c..i,ict of honest, INCIIISCS more from tbe i c ihn free Govern_ Illt llt ; 1 V dt Yin g opinions,. "Ill'er• l a 1 as any in, ilitlt tlian that it is to he constort et . 1 e that a (' r . ) 1 1 5 „ 4 51 fit r 4 :re 51 0 ' . IIIS• - Lei .1" 'p is 0t.5.0 ' 414141 i Itircl; has so sensibly-felt the est to I lle ' I'voltiwt s • Sriii become sensibly alive and t t : ')l '° 6l(.l l l.4l) ' , ' - e l o 'n t 0 ! b..• :deliVed from a li t..: mi. oil t ii"int'iPsal Nionareity. And seei" . g 4 , tilos.Pß„i. Il lit 41.-'n). the ar t o f other tuitions t , •:it oltt.. ( r ot p t G,verunient of rolltat rr, ours, ... iliu, fit,l,i'.liii i itrini e t , ) ,e, • On r;,iefnioilei;, and' wtlittle I),:!tt;Lt'e tth)e"'lblew'fifs I'l that C""ssiti:"nti(s'po'folly iier il i n 'r ail yaN„ao4"of which 'have -ee-- ' 14.. we be '"%traled: --i'-'h.e 'toot, no willing sho )l ' . l ,l and I'llist(.4 l 'Rzard 'the Ids , ' "f the s(l;l,,,„ing I' ''t 4"'i'l. bless'irr '`i vve eiii°YY:bY • ..i,cable t e l l : 4 4), n ,.. tit 1 tile 0f 5 „,.,1 t.tiri ti titipr . a . c ov . tl t ti 'ts ot'• ~ t u , 1 ti,t o and'ri-incied .I_llll°* e ,, , ei li , , wnt, Speell a • f t , i . the p'r 0 01 tilit3'4, l : 'or (I,,i rly , a , we have p aid been' ..„,tiet; tit "lost sat isfacrolly rrn'of 'hal i: he : ) . Ner, toil), bye are, ho , difficitities too A,re" t ~,,„„ not ia t i f ''Y Ili e „, )„, ce -, or this roAnt rY• ' yielded 1411u:1 ° (lave totmilable difficulties , !, RI : a (Inii, L 814Pel loci: ' nt British . Sidi] and a va i l valour: is the s anie s ) ; ' stetti has beet) maint i t . e.(; Boa ' l '" ",:', sti ee is il;tile to ow nional charac i tt. e'xer ' cite s' -"e er et i tt doe to o o r m oil er ation in t le seen 4 1 , 1 : 4 th e ri4hts of con4,,esr. 'There-we ]rave girt., bilioll'lurnferialteti, not for the gralifica' inn , nil po s. t tlsi, ' 11 '4 for the expansion ~,f 'terriu.ll.Y H. tyjoll illitl )11S1 but f mulAnietit -of aggie , ft I n aff or Mir . l cie cum,* from oft , „ u rti protection to 1 , P .., . 0 attebees i' it „-l"rage and o pression." 1 li(! e° -s ( , , . rl•i v '"` War Ih., • been, P that seenrity and comfor t t e he, le t; tft l • -11 e stablished, where terror and misery nli l e tk; txi ' t eci• 1n looking r rela to our' preset) . 1 er. t liil ''lll Antcrica, let o s hope-that the con nt es 1-1111.);11.'ingenietits wilh that country 'are such ' t ill ' .l.°7 e hi 1 ly satisfaetOry•to both] countries, t tit lll 'l 4 est %1; 1 , 1 on the soundest basis—that 1 ('tip,,, 1 4 l '-'" 1 having torten Sit ea advantage. Ant Hilt., r atfah-, illi i l - ‘ . 1 7 "f the• p rosperous state 0. our . . 1411 le n • bles sings we erooy, it Chid li t g t he numetons ' Derma .eti our duty endeavour to give a . n !If ' , tto tti to e tcres ee r ,r ) i s . e various blessings ; and, as in tit es lof afford -0 li.. t arnatnem has an opportun ity .e c _ r_ 1;14 ,41°e untli% hied attention to domestic i . i l- , 4 .1-4 , e es let • be our concern 'to An P 1 rove itl ! ! eircu' n it i tromoting the iiithistry th i Ittortas. Istauees, ) ' Y • I o f th e people; and as 4 ' ility 1 . 114 the c("pfults the constytenees ta A at , t Ireariy• experienc e d feel the. atlvan i,Rl ' l ° May they now sens ibly l very Mia peace • • Bur • bit- 'I fear that ha ve kt lilt ett - • ' • ' . 1• 1 which has bein 1 11 1 y abused' the hber.. I y _ ltt t l6 ' I 1 . II therefore Col - MI(1(1e with 1,,,044: 'He. s la . .. ii '''t: ti _lt the Add' ess ; in whicli it •appears to ttlirel4t.every linti Member in the 1-Icittse may :Ilit ih-leet whaiever..he his politiCal views, t?itll - 1 i l of his ] character for consist 'll.ll). t:" Witilocuittitelend , ing itintelf at all as to the ti• 4,1 1 `,( .,, (4-- f - ist ,, ,e -l- i-,i,,;-sur s . - -- ,';'l ; "I4CD6NALD wus disposed to allow the Ad ,..\-iti:a;4 Ifass tin Posed as a mauler of courtesy, but ' li 'lran (1) cel9 any difference of Opioion • it llt q t trii,,i 3r i, p a r r ej t " ' !I fowl:discussions. Among ), (1 b r i e t 4s 4:l on which the Hots. Mover had found- A 4• o' e i , ll foi unanimity, there was one on Which . 1 '4 ,''' . 41 ; le seOtiutent could he entertained, fur all 1.,...(i.•, tit in deep condolence for the loss which I ll '• u 3 . l' 111, 1 .• • and ti country had exte so 1 i ..4.0 _. 1,1111 ''t .1, .1.,1--;11011" other sohieetS. 4 Id hovvever, lie' soon vati,::rrt himself. b oit od to withhold sonic nbser ltoord!, ; 1111(1 visa fact, tile extravagant and ex -414).1' View which had . been' taken of our . present st!oation mightjus,tify remarkt o 1•. ft. more extensive nature than those Which he intensidd to make. ' 'He should be happy if he cotwW- juiin in all the grounds of congratulation which losii been ad . (bleed. He sincerely rejoiced that a military reduc tion haul take!) place, greater than that Which had been anticipated before our army had returned front Fiance. But any Minister who would have maintained for a minute such a force besides Our re gular establishment would have deserved impeach ment. On' this point he conceded to fi is Ma-• jesty's Ministers what portion of merit was their doe. Ile would have been glad, at the same time, had the Speech mentioned other reductions -as actual 'or contemplated; particularly in the collection of the public revenue, which now cost tour millions Annually, half. the income of the country at. the accession of the House of Bruns wick. to the branch of Stamp's there haul been a tremendous increase, and no otse could be igno rant of the•amount of the distributors and distii butorships of Stomps in every town., He was aware that reformations of the kind he had in view were- best in' the hands of Ministers ; but if they had not spirit, to carry them into effect, they became the concern. of the House. And how could they be, entrusted to men who had dOne nothing to shtisty the national desire for re trenchment, until thealternativelwas; pot to them, ' " do this. or go ?'' It waathetioulythat they had w clone hnt it . t Itey c Those ld ( 1 1 - 1 : o d t o G 4 e , t i s t t i l l e . t i t h s een nett. not . ri b , l e , satis fiedee:pefTp i e t " ;l : e t p l‘tv a li' a it t il: t i o tth: i ev o i r lt s al k : t 7 l ) .s . tailit. A lai at t irri a lne i n : et :: ri til ts te yt n ni: t lel l t i n e n li :i li vf‘ o i t it t ir r i: - h ed under an overpowering weight of . taxation, what prospect did. the Chancellor of the Exche c:l)-01:eirriermilyi;:dli it o ' B o ol i ) i ur t t t l o t e i vo t k s fi t w e a (r a l :; s t i ! I ; ei t ' it y i ( -I * ' ) '' t ag t the t l- b i l eeal that .• heaviest se ci security x i l e i s 4l ? resources of the ,trade was sub- ject to. revulsions.; two bed already experienced the evils of such a revulsion; and the present re venue, notwithstanding its augmentation, still 1 fell - short of that of 1803. If the Chancellor of the Exchequer took the produce of the present 1 year as a specimen of the future progress of the revenue. be:might find himself deceived. If his expectations were realized, it must . be re collected, that . 'such an ' increase of demand i Inuit absorb a fresh portion •of our po pulation in manufacturing - pursuits,—an evil which, in a moral point of view, was one of no small magnitude. When he looked at the condition of the people, at the legitimation of paupers amongst us, and at the misery. subsisting in this country. be could not feel much disposition to join in those mutual felicitations to which he haul been invited. When he saw that out of a Sinking Fund of fifteen millions, only three were applicable to the public service, he couldnot find that there was much matter for exultation. How would the country be prepared for any future war ? ' He • did not mean a , war of aggression, but one of strict,necessity; ..whether we were at tacked and invaded by, the rancour of those we had couquered, • the ingratitude of those we had stived;• or the just indignation of the many nations which our false policy had disgusted.— ' 13ut the House were ,desired to repose faith in the duration of Treaties, and the intimate union which existed among theEaropean Powers. in those lie could place but little confidence, and the last ex-. pression• WOS too amatory, to meet his English ideas: . Ile Was convinced that the best sectuity for the permaneitt peace of England consisted its a steady, honest,'and conciliatory administration of her resources, tool a• system of strict justice towards the people of other countries, whether powerful or weak. He then lamented the indif ference which , seemed . to prevail respecting the continuance of the Slave Trade, though so formally denonoced by those high Pt ofessors of Christia nity, the Allied Powers. France was a Member of that Treaty, but under the • rule of his Most Christian Majesty, after all the sacrifices which we had made for his restoration, we had not been side to obtain the sanction of the Court of Louis XVIII. to a -measure, to which other collo tyies, tray,- the King of Spain, Ferdinand himself, bad been brought,- he. would not say bought, to accede. • Would not Russia, who had succeeded to. that influence in Europe which once was. Eng land's, have prevailed over Louis XVIII. though we could not ? . France could not think it possi ble s hat an act of perfect reciprocity should exist, or that the evasion of a municipal law should not be ermuieed at. As:kng as France opposed the to tal abolition of that infernal, trade, it would cons thote• to thrive as it now did:; He thought it not a little extraordinary_ that the Speech should have been silent on so important a subject.Neitber did it contain any notification that she Act had been put in force, which directed an inquiry into the Abuses of Charities. He spoke of that which the nation desired, not of that which the Ministers had conceded. -He should say nothing of that Act and of its mutilations, as his Hon. and Learned Friend on ,the . Bench below (Mr. Brougham) would probably take up the subject himself. But he shoald contettd that it : woold have been better had Minist-ers,succeeded in putting down all in quiry together, :thaw for them to have issued.the present lame and impotent Commission. Had it been even issued as proposed, it would still have wanted one ground of public confidence, as its Members would not have been nominated by the House. but by the Secretary of State. The pre- Seat indeed was ornamented by two names which must give. general satisfaction.—(We understood those ,to be Sir William Grant and Mr. Matosers Sutton.]—He had no doubt that all the other , Members were hintourable men, but it happened • :that in principles and opiOions they were directly bostile to the inquiry.—Tbe name of tile migi , nal Mover did not even appear. Cs-ranting that his I - ion. and Learned Friend, in the present pur suit of his measure, had been as over-zealous and enthissiastic as his adversaries bad proved, against . him, yet, by the omission of his' name, his Majesty's Ministers bad left it. to be said, as it was now said far and %side, that they fear the ,man who had talents, and was in earnest.-- - —He had little satisfaction in urging grounds of opposition . to the Address, bitt be &mid not agree. wait its tender aSsurances. Was the ' boasted confidence' in his Majesty's Ministers justified by the extraordinary results of 'the late Election ?—• How came it thee-that thereivas ,su decided .an 1 from the Administration iio c sit i 3 V 1. ( 1 in some entire classes ? Beciruse the people bild recollection most experience. Because they h a d seen the important concerns of the Empire left to 'chalice or abandoned, anti measures of the. greatest ntoment neither. effectually supported nor manfully opposed. Was the Bank P•trr Systim to be continued ? Were not Ministers theMselVes so opposed in principle's and opinions on that sub ject, that they could come to nothing Had they yet done any thing to amend the Poor Laws, that ruinous system iwhielr was fast 'Sap ping the morals of the people?' No ; it not iu their line to concur in any plan proposed, and it it was, they could not afford , to risk any thing to give it effect. When that great Lawyer, whose loss the COuntry would never cease,, to feel, and whose life had been so full of activity and utility, when Sir S. Romilly - , whose name would never he uttered without reverence in every quarter of the globe, brought tor Ward his limited measure, some of the Meddlers of Go vernment absented them Selves, or gave it holloW support, to be counteracted by another division the next day. What had been their conduct re specting the Catholic Question ?"--one of interest to-the whole Eml,ire, though of indifference to its administrators, who seemed to have pledged them selves neither to discuss the matter in Council, nor to give the ?since their advice, and the Legislature, their aid. ' 1-low had they acted with respect to Petitions ? When some respecting the life and death of individuals were placed into their hands, had they not most strangely asserted that it was tiselss and nugatory to submit them to his Royal Highness ? Had they not thus Cur tailed him of the noblest, the . best, and the most , divine prerogative of the Ctown, the exercise' of the Royal mercy ? When had they upheld the true dignity of the Crown ? Not when they had tried to obtain grants which Parliament had in dignantly thrown' into their teeth, and thus placed the Royal Family in conflict with the People. They had complained of the insufficiency of the laws recognized by the Constitution for maintain ing public tranquillity, and had obtained uncon stitutional powers, whilst those laws had proved sufficient, not only to suppress, but to punish. How could the respect of the nation follow those, on all occasions, had showed that they tertained no respect for each other ? But let them proceed : let them' turn libellers themselves: let them establish a police and a legion of spies, and let them see what would be the consequences of such conduct. He then concluded by expressing his intention of not troubling the House with any amendment. Mr. SINCLAIR—The subjects recommended to our atten tion from the Thro a ne, have already been discussed by the lion. Gentlemen 'who opened the debate, so amply, as to re quire, And so ably, as to admit of no additional comment or illustration ; I - shall, therefore, content myself with briefly stating to the House my reasons for snnport ing the Address ; to which I should have silently concurred, if my Hon. Rela tion had not. clogged his assent with so profuse a variety of extraneous animadversions. I entirely approve of the Address, because I think it highly creditable to the candour and mode ration of his Majesty's Ministers. It does not call upon us to pledge ourselves to the unlimited support, or unconditismal ap probation of any system, and it leaves the great questions, con- I . nected with our foreign and domestic policy, still open for future deliberation. !It: we consider its. general scope and tenoue, we shall find that it contains such sentiments, and is couched in such language, as no friend to his Country can reasonably ob ject to: We shall perceive that every topic has kern studiously avoided, which could ell.. it any material difference of opinion, or excite any angry discussion, It has evidently been the wish. and the object, of those who framed it, to enable all parties, on the first day of our first Session, to approach the Throne with an unanimous assurance of loyal and affectionate attachment. My Honourable Relathin, however, has • not thought proper to Billow this, laudable example of forbear ance, There is scarcely a single measure, either in retrospect or in contemplation, upon which lie has not attacked with severity the past conduct, or the presumed intentions, of his Majesty's advisers. I ant only surprised that be has not em bodied his sentiments into the form of. an asueudment ; more especially if weaall to mind the triumphant anticipations. of a powerful accession to the numerical strength of his friends, which, ever since- the. results of the late Elections were known, or even long before they began; have been lotidly re echoed in every part of the country. 1 expected that the Ho nourable Gentlemen opposite would have brought on, with out a moment's delay,, a trial of strength - between the two great parties, which may be supposed to preponderate in the House, and would feel anxious, in sonic degree, to ascertain, as soon as possible, the relative proportion of their respective adherents. They have, however, postpomed, until some future day, the intended grand display of their forces. JO the mean time, my Hon.,ltelatien has descanted upon a multiplicity'of tolics, so important in their nature, and, at the same time, so unconnected with each other, that, to attempt a circum stantial reply to hisspeech;viould involve the House in a labyrinth of questions. which severally deserve and requite a solemn and separate investigation. Far be it, however, front me to expose my own presumption, by entering the lists of debate with one whom I so much respect. I am deeply con scious of my own deficiencies`; and . pay a wilstng homage to the advantages which tv y Honourable Relation possesses, from the splendour of his talents, the variety (dills knOwledge, and the extent cif his political experience. I am also . far from help decidedly hostile to all the opinions which lie has en forced with so much eloquence; I am as little' tied down. to oppose, as to support theim; and should think very mesuly of my own fairness and judgment, if I did not always listen to his -arguments with deference, as well as with attention. I am well aware that ho individual is more obooxious to parties,, than one who: will not absolutely bind himself to either; and though a promise of unbiassed impartiality is often given and required at Elections, it is .seldom steadily adhered to—;but I trust tits/ there are some, of whom I do not hesitafe to prnfess myself one; who think that they 16- thee forfeit their independence nor lessen their respectability, nor deviate front the path of constitutional consistency, by keeping alooffrom a complete subjugat ion to parts , influence,. and by presuming to judge for themselves. Deonted as esta of us has been, to discharge the must :importaiit duties which can devolve upon a British subject, we must remember that the eyes of all our Constituents are rivetted with serminizing anxiety upoir the proeeedhigs of their new Representatives. On this point, all must agree; but if we' proceed to define tire wishes, which the people are supposed to entertain, our state ments will he different indeed ! Whilst, on the one hand, we shall be told, that the nation at large expects us to rally , round the Mittisters, and whilst on the other we have been as sured by my Hon. Relation, that the popular voice demands loudly their removal, there ,are others who will think that they are sebt, neither tir withluild entirely theirconfidence froia Government., nor implicitly 'to sanction their proceedings; sometimes to,oppose their measures, but never to impeach their Motives--to combine political 'cando'ui• With constitu tional vigilance—tether predisposed to approve than pre. • determined to cetidemn ; tesulved to favtiur,Thet not to flatter; to tontrool, but out to embarrass. And .here I cannot but • advert, with feelings of deep regret, not immitigled perhaps with instignation, rto thetune which has-lately bee n assumed, with respect to our, fotave conduct, by the writers whose po litical sentiments are generally in unisan wit Is Shose.Of the • [Awl. Gentlemen opposite., liy them it is ex pressly and inde fatigably asserted; not only that to present Cabinet from oflice must be the sale awl con,tant, ohjeet uf all who wish well to their country, but that every proposition which ematiates from ttsem, whether gtiod or bad in itself, crust he pertinaciously found fault with,and indiscriminately opposed. Nu terms are deemed. - strong - enough to characterise the ignorance awl imbecility of the existing Administration ; their supporters are accused of hring'swayed by every motive that is despicable or corrupt ; and the well: meaning, but not very clear-sighted politicians (as they are called), who occasionally presume, in amaze:cite of their own free jmig . „ . ;• . -.. • • !tient*, to vote with the Ministers of the Crown, are.repre— t. sented .;as•either useless, or dangerous, er alleged etecißation is assailed with keen .reproof, or their weak•,,-• nessbecproes-the theme of contemptuous cummi,reat Vat. The.. hide/iris:lent Members ()Idle new Paella:tient ale s-tiviitiou,ly. , .:. exhorted, and even confidently expected, to fairy , every difference of opinion, and unaninionsly to intist under the standard of inveterate and unqualified oppositioti: Naw, Sirs - in whatother light can such language be considtred,thait as PM- • ing. upon a British House of Commons to exhanAt all their Inge filthy, and exercise all their perseverance, to harassing must , wantonly the advisers of their Sovereign ? Does it nut invite us to make - no allowantx for any difficulties of their situation, , find instead of judging their Very. errors with candour. and liberality to overlook their past services, to disparage their best measures, and even perhaps to witness•their successes • with regret ? Does it. not enjt.in us to adopt as a corollary to the sound constitutional Maxim s that theKi nit valid° no wrong, the, I trust., far more questionable. proposition, that his Mt ni.sterti can do nothing right noes •it n.u t terra to cherish, among the lower orders., the ino“ malignant feelings of aver- • Sion and contempt towards those io authority over them ? feelings which, in sonic quarters, are almost as predominant as they are misehieenas; and which have chiefly hector excited and nurtured by the coarse and factioui libels wit which the Press IS unremittingly disgraced, and -especially. oh) that day which the laws bell) of God and man have peculiarly set apart • for religious meditation, and, in some degree,. Tor curbing those very evil .pa'Ssions which such writers are labour.- nig to inflame ?• Snch are, in my opinion, the daft- -, ,gerons consequences which these pernicions publica /tons a`re intended and calculated to produce. With respect to the inrioptilarity of Ministers, which my Hon. Re lation represetrs to be so general, and undoubtedly states so • with jiiStice, in as far as regards many quarters, is it not, chiefly to be ascribed to the clamour which has been raised against the Suspension ,of the Habeas Corpus ?—a measure • which, though sanctioned by see many of their own friends, was mule use s uf,i-ditring Most of the late contests, by the Hon. Gentlemen opposite, as an engine for exerting, against their Ministerial Competitors, all the fury of popular resent ment.- 1 anr unwilling at present to trespass upon the time of the House, : and shall conclude by repeating, that, though desirous to s upport Ministers as far as I ,coOseientiausly cats,' I shall oppose any measure which seems to militate against the spirit of the Constitution, or to be at variance with the interests of the country. • 11r. CLIVE, holding the situation.whiCh he did, could not Y , suffer the assertton to pass uncontradicted, that his Royal • Highness had been deprived by the act of atty. of his Majes- ' ty's Ministers of the exercise of the high prerogative of Royal mercy. The fact was, that a Petition of the nature al-' hided to had been la;d•befOre the Noble Lord at the head of the Home Department, and by him forwarded to his Royal Highness at Brighton. An answer had come; kaving it •to the Noble Horne Secretary of State to do as lie thought pro , - per in the case. The Petition itself had twice beets consider— ed by the 'Cabinet and •the Privy Connell, and his Royal. Highness had abided by their advice. • Mr. MACDONALD could not, as a Member of that House, have suffered even the 'first day of the Session to pass without exposing what he conceived to have been a high breach of the Royal prerogative. The Hon. Under Secretary of State IMt . Clive) had given an explanation. in which; after having heard the following official answer made to the Petition, he would probably concede; he bad been mistaken. The Pas. tion was one signed by nine respectable Bankers oft 'Liverpool, ire favour of an individual who had been found guilty of uttering a forged note. it had been presented by t the 1-tight Hon. George Canning, HS MeMber for that city, to whom the answer given to it had been addressed by Lard mouth, not as a confidential communication, but as a public. document. The Hon. Member then read•as follows: " I have this nniment received, by a special messenger, your letter of this afternoon, containing the petition of nine bankers of Liverpool, to his Royal Highness the Prince Re gent, praying for a respite for the three unfortunate men who are to be executed to•morruw morning at the Old Bailey. A - similar petition has aheady been transmitted to his Royal Highness, who has ordered me to act in this case in the man-' -ner most consonant to my awn feelings and judgment ; there fore, even if time permitted, it would be unnecessary to transmit the present petit ioir-to his Royal Highness." After having heardstieh a letter could it still he contended that. a Minister had not refused to apply to the Prince Re gent, in a case in which the high pretogativeof mercy was concerned! • . . Mr. CANNING hoped, after what bad just been stated with respect to conduct of the Noble Secretary of State on a pat ticnlar occasion, that . he might be allowed to explain est& that transaction. Rising for this purpose, alone, if : the de bate should go on, he trusted he should not be precluded from taking a part in it at a later hour, if he should think this necessary. He begged to say the Hun. Gentleman was mistaken (for he would not suppose that it was any thing but a mistake), as to the degree of discretion which had been ex ercised by the Noble Secretary of State on the occasion to which he had alluderk ,The letter, .he believed, was a fair transcript of one which he had received front Lord Sidmouth. If he had known the subject was likely to come tinder discus sion, he could have brought the letter in his pocket, but he believed the copy which had been read to be perfectly correct.! He would - now • proceed to state what were the real facts.-s-. -The case of the unfortunate man in question had beers brought tinder the citsisideration of the Privy Council by the Recorder's Report. It was carefully considered in full (knit). cil many days before the execution took place; On this irc msion the greatest attention was paid to every thing thats could be urged in favour of the. unhappy man, and on the fullest deliberation, the voice of every Councillor present Was honestly; but painfully given against him, and • the sentence of the law was ordered to be executed. He was, - selected to suffer from among many, to whom &uricy was that day extended. Between that day and the period at which the execution took place, many petitions were - pre.sented in. behalf of the .culprit. Some of these he believed, but one he knew, had been sent to Bright - on, 'forwarrted thither, if he mistook not, by the Petitioners. Though•merey was rightly called the brightest jewel of the Crew!), yet the House- bad not to learn that this enviable prerogative" was, exercised by 'the Sovereign• on the responsibility of his Advisers.' •He repeated it, - that it was on the follestdelibe - -• ration 'that the decision in this mau's case had been taken and, recorded. The discretion vested in the Secretar: of State Went' not to the extent of enabling hint to pardon. Of him self he could not show mercy. ,What had been said by Lord Sidmouth went to this effect, that had any new cir cumsta-nces transpired in his favour, it might then have been lot hint, not to determine whether be should he par dotted or not, but whether he should not be allowed, a respite. The voice of Lord Sidmouth raised against the oilender, had been but one amongst many; and the crime imputed to his Lordthip, now was, that on the eve of the execution of the sentence, be had been aisle to discover no thing to•change • the character of the case, and had, t hare fore declined granting a respite 'to excite hopes which -he knew must bo frustra,leol,- when the subject came to undergo anew inquiry. •Now, in the course so pursued by the Noble Secretary of State, he could not see that he ,had exercised any power'which the Constitution did nut give him, nnr that he hash •so' used the power which the Constitution did give hint as . to appear guilty of any disrepect towards the Crown, or of any hardness of heart, or obduracy of feeling, towards the unhappy marl who had been executed." To him- Self, - as the Member for Liverpool, a Petition in davour of the offender had herb forwarded from that town. lie had been of the Council which decided for the execution of the sentence. He had given his voice against the 'Lan. It was a most pain. - ful task to poforin, (4od knows; but, however painful, a man most discharge his duty according to his conscience. As a Member of' Parliament, be had considered • it his• duty to transmit tl.e Petition when received front •Li- verpool, to the Secretary of State, as 'if its. had helm wholly ignorant of the merits of the case.. Unfor tunately it had happened that that -morning, ocCupied• by businesss (not of Isis own, but of, the public), he had nut turned to the letters of the day so soon as he usually did, and in consequence of this, he had unknowingly detained the petition some hours. Ile thought it fair to states this,-that it Might he known that through him it was for it time kept from the Secretary of ,State. He was in the habit of requesting his Constituent;,- in cases where their ap-, plicatious must, if ,at all, be attended to immediately, to. seed a copy of 'what they might have to transmit to • him, and the original to the Department ,to which they 'de sired to have it forwarded. Unluckily, on . this occasion, ' doubtless franc a wish to save delay, no copy was, forwarded but that sent to bins, and this arriving on a day When letters usually come late, on a Monday—and on a nsnrning when, from circumstances which had !styli already explained; he had not been induced to turn to the letters of the day wilts Isis usual eagernesS, had caused altogether a delay ot,some hours, foe which he was anxious that no one should be held responsible but himself. He hoped he might he excused for defending the Noble Secretary of State front a charge whirls would go to the heart- of any man, and which, whatever opinion - might be abroad to the contrary, he Seas stIP.C.W4IId most deeply affect the Noble 'Lord against whom it had,beets urged. Sir H. PARNELL complained that the Speech took n'o•ne tice of the nowau Cathulies of It eland. He übsurred, it must ."• tc 0 5 4 , )/ 10' f ec`r' i s bc"' - carver' d e r}'' o utrY , !coPly ( I 100" ) ()Nr." -- oor, W e ' 53 of f . IIU ° vbi al 11 „, 16 on ale t°- ' O 45C ' C 10 4)11 0 , - 4 M I b j e ce coo ; 5 1,10 1 Old 3 1A ; s ee o icee , -.01 116 b e , !), 19 iv a<iD, Is ve r c % i ce ° ►abl 006 • no- atc . sto t eLl' er cord r cc spe to 10005