The Sun. — London, England, 1841-09-17 00:00:00

EVENING SUN IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS, Sept. 16. The SPEAKER took the Chair a few minutei before Four o'Clock, at which time there was but a thin atten dance of Members. Sir Frederick Pollock, Sir H. Hardinge, Mr. Goulburn, Sir W. Follett, and some other Members of the new Administration, were, however, present. Sir Robert Peel entered the House shortly afterwards, and the Right Hon. Baronet, 'accompanied by the fol lowing members of his Ministry, advanced to the table, and took the oaths and • subscribed the Parliamentary roll: —Sir W. Follett, Mr. 1-1. Goulburn, Captain Boldero, Mr. Milnes Gaskell, Sir H. Hardinge, Sir F. Pollock, Colonel Jonathan Peel, Mr. Bingham Baring, Lord Ernest Bruce, Lord Jermyn, and J. A. Smith. Mr. E. W. Gladstone immediately afterwards entered the House, and having advanced to the table, the oaths were administered to him, and the Right Hon. Gentle man subscribed the Parliamentary roll. NEW RffS. On the motion of Sir T. FREMANTLE. a new writ Was ordered to be issued fur the election of a Member to serve in Parliament for Portarlington in the room of the Right lion. George Dawson Darner, who had accepted the office of Comptroller of her Majesty's Household. Also a new writ for the County of Cavan, in the ,room of John Young, Esq., who had accepted the office of one of the Lords of the Treasury. ELECTIO'N PETITIONS. The SPEAKER then informed the House that he had received reports from the Committee of contested elec tions, to the effect that the recognizances entered into upon the petitions against the returns for Wigan, Brid port, and Belfast, were unexceptionable. I)UBLIN ELECTION.The RIGHT HON. GENTLEMAN also informed the House that he had received a communication from Messrs. Atkins, Hanton, Gibson, and Christopher O'Con nell, the petitioners against the return of Mr. Grogan, for the city of Dublin, to the effect that it was not their intention to prosecute their petition. Lord John Russell here entered the House, and, after having conversed for a few minutes with the Speaker, too k the seat formerly occupied by Sir Robett Peel on the Oppositio n b enches. NOTI CES OF MOTION—SKAITING IN THE Mr• Irrp PARKS. ave notice that on Tuesday next e 21 st instant, he should move that an humble Address th be presented to her Majesty, praying that she would be graciously pleased to direct the Commission.. er s of the land revenue to take measures to render more safe the amusement of skaiting on the orna • mental water in St. James's and Hyde Parks by adopting measures to render the depth of those waters in no place greater than four feet. MISCELLANEOUS ESTIMATES. Sir it. PEEL said he wished to move for a paper, to Which it would be desirable to call the attention of the Douse very shortly, connected with the execution of the works which were - now in prcgress for the building of the New Houses of Parliament, and the adoption of measures for warming and ventilating these Houses. In making that motion it would perhaps be for the general convenience of the House that he should take that op- Portunity of stating the general course which he meant on the part of her Majesty's Government to pursue with regard to the public business of the House. Notice had " 1 1 given for taking into consideration to-morrow those e stimates of which complete provision had not yet been M ade during the late session of Parliament. That vote would refer to the miscellaneous services of the year. One half of the sum required for those miscellane ous services had been provided by the late Parlia ment. He proposed to adopt the estimates without exception, as they were framed by her Majesty's late Ministers, and to submit them to the consideration of the Mouse, exactly in the form in which they were submit ted during the late session. On former occasions the course pursued had been to take by one vote the remain ing sum which was requisite for the purpose of providing for those services. But in the present instance the esti mates themselves had not been submitted to the detailed consideration of the House. A sum on account was taken during the late session, and he apprehended that it would be more satisfactory to the House that the estimates in detail should undergo consideration then ; that one sum in gross should be taken to provide fur the public service. He proposed, therefore, in the ordinary way to submit the estimate of each service in detail, and to take a separate vote with respect to each. He was not aware that it was necessary to make any proposition to the House with respect to any other ser vices than those which were included in the estimates pre sented during the last Session ; but there was one form of expenditure to which it would be his duty to direct the attention of the House. It was connected with that particular item of expenditure to which he had before referred, viz. the additional sum which would be required in connection with the construction of the two Houses of Parliament. The works were advanced to such a period, that if the two houses of Parliament should determine on some mode of warming and venti lating the new Houses, similar to that which had been provided for the present House of Commons, it would be necessary at once to make provision for that pur pose. The state of the buildings was such, that the floors and other works necessary to carry out that design must be immediately provided.—(Hear.) If these works were to be undertaken they must be begun without delay. But he thought they were of such a magnitude that they ought not to be undertaken -without the previous sanction of Parliament. On a former occasion, upon a question of a similar nature, Committees of both Houses of Parliament had been ap pointed to consider the subject ; in his opinion it would be convenient that a similar course should be pursued on the present occasion. The works would amount, if car ried out according to the proposals of Dr. Reid and Mr Barry, to between 80,000/. and 90,0001. ; and such a large expenditure, in his opinion, should not be in curred without the consent and approbation of Par liament. If any Committee should be appointed, he trusted that it would limit its inquiries entirely to the heating and ventilation of the new Houses, and that it would not in any way interfere with the progress of the works. It also would be his intention to propose a Continuance Bill, to continue those laws which would expire at definite periods without the previous interven tion of Parliament. There were some laws which ex pired at definitely fixed periods. There were other laws which would expire at the end of the first session of Parliament. He should submit the propriety of con tinuing those laws for a definite period. The most im portant of all those laws was the Poor-law Act. That part of it, constituting the Poor-law commission, expires on the 31st of December next. He should pro pose that Parliament should provide that the Poor-law Act, as it now stood, should continue in operation until the 31st of July next, in order to enable her Majesty's Government to consider what it might be expedient to propose with regard to that Act. Other Bills of considerable importance, and others of less, would expire at the end of the present Session, or on a given day. He should propose also to continue those laws to a certain period. The continu ance of the Poor-law Act was of the most importance, and it would be for the House to decide whether it should continue by the General Continuance Bill or otherwise. If it were desired by the House that it should be continued by a separate Bill, he would certainly have no objection, although he thought it would be inconvenient to load the statute book unnecessarily. With respect to . election petitions it appeared to him that it would be better that no pre cedent should be adopted at present. He believed that under the pt esent law no Act of the House was required for suspending proceedings. It rested entirely with the general Committee on Election Petitions to appoint the days on which they should be heard ; and he trusted that it would be considered that the House had expressed its opinion of the inexpediency of proceeding with the consideration of any election petitions at present. With respect to the financial arrangements' of the coun try, his Right Hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exche quer would, on the earliest day on which a Committee of Ways and Means could be appointed, state to the House what was the extent of the deficiency to be provided for, namely, the deficiency between the revenue and the expen diture of the country for the present year. lle apprehended that it would be found not to fall far short of the estimate given by the late Chancellor of the Exchequer, and that it was probable a sum of 2,500,0001. would have to be provided for the service of the present year. Into the details of the particular classes of deficiency. his Right Honourable Friend would enter on the occasion to which he hid already alluded, viz., when the House resolved itself into a Committee of Ways and Means, and he would avail himself of that op portunity of stating what were the measures he intended to propose for making temporary provision for reliev ing that deficiency. With respect to measures of a more permanent character, for the purpose of equalizing the revenue and expenditure of the country, it was not his intention during the pre sent meeting of Parliament to submit any Measures for the consideration of the House. He had already expressed his opinion that it was absolutely necessary to provide some effectual means for equalizing the revenue and expenditure of the country, and they would avail themselves of the earliest opportunity, after mature consideration °f the circumstances of the country, of submitting to Parliament measures for the purpose of removing the existing ev il. Whether that would be b e st effecte by diminishing _ the expenditure of the country, or whether Lt Must be done by increasing the revenue, or whether it Must be done by a combination of these two means—viz., the reduction of the expenditure and the increase of the revenue, he must postpone for future consideration. It I VRS enough for him to state that it was im- Possible for the country, consistently with the public ser neely~, to proceed in the course which, perhaps unavoida had been pursued of late years, without in curring considerable debt. But as to the mode of raising that deficiency, he must ask for that degree of confidence from the House, which he had on all oc casions experienced; and in the meantime her Majesty's Government would give it their most serious con sideration. With respect to other measures of a more Permanent and important character, he must make the s ame appeal to the confidence of the House. It was quite true that for some days past, he (Sir H. Peel) and. his colleagues had been in possession of the Govern ment of the country, but the House would readily admit that the arrangements he was obliged to make with regard l e the const it ut i on of the Government h a d not p l ace d him in a much better position to pronounce an opinion on measures of such importance than before.— (Hear, hear, and a laugh from the Opposition benches.) He could assure the House that he had no Wish to propose any unnecessary delay. On account of the deficient attendance of Members, on account of the temptation s of other avocations to which they would be subject, there might be some delay; but, his own opinion was, that all considerations of this description should be sacrificed to the public busi ness .—(h ear , hear.) Those considerations ought difficulty not to interpose the slightest in a case of that kind. lie was anxious to call the attention of Parliament to measures of an important character arising under the particular circumstances of the country. He might depend on the expressions that were made use of before the last election, that there was a general desire on the part of Hon. Gentlemen op posite to give a fair opportunity of considering those measures. It was for the public benefit that such an op portunity should be given on the earliest possible occa sion, when the opinion of her Majsty's Govern ment would be stated to Parliament. But, con- sidering the great importance of the measures to which he alluded, he was of opinion the interests of the country would be best taken care of by allowing a fair time to the new Government to maturely consider the questions connected with the finan cial arrangements of the country. (Hear, hear.) The Right Hon. Gentleman concluded by moving for a copy of the correspondence between the architects of the New Houses of Parliament and the Chancellor of the Exchequer, relating to the ventilation and other arrange- ments Of said llouses Lord J. RUSSELL said, that with respect to the im mediate purposes for which the Right Hon. Gentle man had moved for those papers, he (Lord J. Russell) was certainly not likely to differ from any measures which might be proposed agreeably to them. He had entire confidence in the course which he conceived that the Right Hon. Baronet might think fit to adopt on that score. With respect to any 1 apparatus that might be required for the end aimed at, he had no doubt that the Treasury—especially the Right Hon. Gentleman the Chancellor of the Ex chequer, would take care not to leave that unattended to. Of course, with respect to the estimates, to the voting of which he as well as the Members of the late Government were a party, he would not offer any opposition to the granting of them. He (Lord J. Russell) should think it his duty to take an opportunity to-morrow, before the House went into Committee of Sup ply, to state the view which he took of the present state of public affairs. He did not think that it would be conveni ent now that he should enter into those considerations. The 1 course whit . proposed to take before the House would go into C ttee of Supply was consistent with the practice o House. He regretted the Right Hon. Gentleman's statement with respect to his intentions of not proposing any measure of importance in the present Session of Parliament. He did not say that during the last ten days, in which the Right Hon. Gen tleman was occupied, agreeably to the power vested in him by her Majesty, in forming an Administration, the Right Honourable Gentleman could have paid any at tention to those important measures; but, considering the leng.h of time which had elapsed since measures on those important subjects were proposed by the late Go vernment—considering the present state of the country, he must say, that in his opinion the Government ought at once to lay before Parliament the measures it intended to propose. He (Lord J. Russell) inferred from the Right Hon. Gentleman's statement, that his intention w as , having obtained the necessary supplies—having made temporary provision for the public credit, and having re newed the Poor-law to July next, the House of Commons should not again meet till the ordinary time at the commencement of the year.—(Hear.) He considered that course not advisable in the present state of the country, and as the Right Hon. Gentleman had said the House of Commons ought not to attend to questions of personal convenience when matters of public- importance were to be attended to, he would not now enter further into those matters. He would only say that he would state his opinions on those two questions to-morrow; and he might be allowed to add, that it was by no means his wish to embarrass whatever course the Right Hon. Ba ronet might think proper to adopt. The motion was then agreed to. COMMERCIAL REGULATIONS. Dr. BOWRING said that he had given notice of his intention to move for certain returns relative to the commercial regulations of other countries with re spect to our own ; but, as he understood that some progress had been made in preparing those returns, if the Right Hon. Gentleman the Vice-President of the Board of Trade (Mr. Gladstone) would inform him that they should be presented to the House, he should be glad to leave the matter in his hands. At the same time he would suggest a regulation which would be of great advantage, namely, that, from time to time, the changes :rade in commercial regulations should be reported to the House.—(Hear, hear.).. . . _ Mr. GLAbSTONE said that in the month of June last the Right Hon. Gentleman, the late Vice-Presi dent of the Board of Trade, had announced to the House that one of the Secretaries of the Board had bestowed great labour in collecting information respecting the tariffs and customs of foreign countries, and he had also stated that when that information was obtained it should be laid on the table of the House. The Noble Lord (Earl Ripon) at the head of the Board of Trade entirely approved of that intention of his predecessor, and Mr. M‘Gregor had received instructions to proceed with the preparation of that inforn ation.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") The House must be aware that this was a work of rery considerable difficulty, and one requiring great accuracy, but it should be put in hand immediately, and as soon as it could be pre pared it should be laid on the table of the House. He (Mr. Gladstone) also entirely concurred in the suggestion which the Hon. Gentleman had made, that arrangements should be made with Govern ments abroad to obtain information respecting the changes in their commercial regulations.— (Hear.) REGENT'S PARK. Sir T. FREMANTLE moved that an address should be presented to her Majesty, praying her Majesty to order that there should be laid before the House a plan of the Regent's Park, showing the improvements and altera tions lately made therein. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. Lord J. RUSSELL inquired at what hour to-morrow it was the intention of the Right Hon. Baronet to com mence the public business of the House ? Sir R. PEEL said that he thought it would be con venient to the House if it was generally understood that in future public business should commence at an earlier hour. Ho would propose, therefore, that petitions should continue to be presented till five o'clock, but that if there were no petitions they should commence public business at half-past four.—(Hear, hear.) ROYAL DEMESNES. Sir T. FRENIANTLE moved for leave to bring in a Bill for annexing the mansion -house, gardens, and grounds at Frogmore (part of the Land Revenue of the Crown) to Windsor Castle ; and also a Bill to authorise the leasing the Royal kitchen garden at Kensington. for building purposes, and to enable her Majesty's Commission ers of Woods, Stc., to expend the value thereof in the forma tion and improvement of the Royal gardens, and to en able the said Commissioners, on behalf of her Majesty, to purchase lands of copy hold or customary tenure. The Hon. Gentleman said that these measures had received the sanction of the late Government, and were approved by the present Government ; in fact, he was only car rying out measures which he had found in a state of great forwardness. The reason he had brought them forward this Session was that he found delay would be a great inconvenience, and that it was desirable that no time should be lost in the formation of a kitchen garden. The first Bill was to annex Frogmorc to the Crown so as to make it part of the demesne of Wind sor Castle. At present it belonged to their Royal Highnesses the Princess Sophia and the Duchess of Gloucester, though their life interests had been purchased by the Crown, and had reverted to the Commissioners of Woods and Forests. The use of those gardens was connected with the esta blishment at Windsor, and it would be a matter of great inconvenience to her Majesty if that property were let to other parties. It had been con sidered therefore that it would be advisable that those gardens should be made part of the domain of the Crown at Windsor, and therefore it was that the present Act was introduced. With re gard to the other part of the property, that would remain in the hands of the Commissioners. With respect to the other Bill, much inconvenience had been felt for some years in consequence of the want of vegetables in the Royal Household, in consequence of the smallness of the kitchen garden, and by the present Bill it was proposed to remedy that defect. By the arrangement proposed to be adopted by the present Bill, no additional charge would be imposed upon the public. He believed with respect to one of those Bills it would be necessary, previous to its introduction, to go into a Committee of the whole House. With re spect to the second Bill, he should propose its introduction at once ; and as to the other he should propose that the House should go into Committee on the subject. The Right Hon. Gentleman then con cluded by Moving for leave to bring in the second Bill of which he had given notice. Mr. PROTHEROE must protest at once against this Bill, and would give it all the opposition in his power. That opposition had nothing of a party character, because the Government o f the Right Hon. Baronet was not re sponsible for the measure which had originated with their predecessors ; and he would oppose it as earnes tly as if it were now introduced by the Noble Lord (Lord John Russell) below him. He hoped that his Hon. Friend would re-consider the course which he proposed to adopt. At the moment when measures were in progress in the formation of additional Royal parks andpubic walks, and places of recreation for the people, it was manifestly absurd to give away a large portion of Kensington-park, for such a purpose as was proposed. He wished his Honourable Friend had come with him that morning into Kensington Park, and had seen the ground in question ; he would agree with hi m as to toadnclninntiggnintus.He thought, the park t o thwhich was immediately of whether they regarded the convenience of venience of the Sovereign, or of the inhabitants Kensing ton,coufd or of the p ublic g enerally, nothing to build on that spot. be more injudicious than Villas were not wanted, and speculations on the part o f the Government were not alwa y s wellrred or pro fitable.—(Hear, hear.) Hy de Park and ' mana Kensing ton Gardens were no longer t h e commencement of the country, but they were surr o unded by a dense town and population, and would soon be as much in Inn-fields. the interior of the metropolis as Lincoln's —(Hear.) He trusted Government would use the oppor tunity of enlarging those Rlaces, and apply to the House for the sum of money necessary for the convenience of the Crown. At a further stage he woulci offer to the measure every opposition in his power. Mr. WILLIAMS begged to ask if any est i ma te had been made of the expense of consolidating the kitchen gardens ? He approved of the proposed disposal of this piece of groun d, b u t h e did not approve of the purpose to which th e p rocee d s were t o b e a pplied. He thought that_ when th e wor ki ng c l asses were suffering so much distress, and when so much money was expended on palaces and parks, the proceeds of this piece of ground ought to be applied to the repairs of the palaces, at re lieve the public frorri so much of the expense. Sir T. FREMANTLE said that the ground was esti mated at 1,0001. per annum. Mr. WAKLEY said that it appeared that for the pal try sum of 1,0001. a year the only open space which ex- THE SUN, LONDON. FRI DAY, SEPTEMBER 17, 1 41. isted between the palace towards the east, and the church in Kensington towards the west, Was to be entirely sacrificed to the public. The Right Hon. Gentleman had stated that the measure was one which would have . been brought forward by the late . Administration—it was one of the great measures upon which the two Administrations concurred in opinion—(hear, and a ]auh)—a bad beginning.—(Laughter.) He hoped the lion. G entleman himself would go down to Kensington, and as he (Mr. W.) remembered a good deal of what the Right Hon. Gentleman had said of late years with respect to the working classes, their recreations, and amusements, he entreated the Right Honourable Gentleman to visit the ground which it was proposed to be sacrificed. 'the people in the neighbourhood com plained loudly on the subject.—(Hear.) They looked upon it as a deplorable evil that they should be deprived of such an open space of ground, at a time when the Government were spending thousands for the comfort of the inhabitants of other parts of the metropolis. The ground in question was excluded, in a great measure, from public view, but it lay adjacent to a densely peopled neighbourhood, the inhabitants of which would be greatly benefited by having the space open. It was an advantage which they would greatly prize. He was astonished to find that the late Ad ministration, which professed to be so friendly to the people, should have entertained for a moment the project of building upon the space alluded to ; and he would again entreat the Members of the new Government to visit the spot before they came to a definitive resolution on the subject. If the Government said, after proper inquiry, that that space ought to be filled with houses, he for one would yield to the decision, although he should do so with very great reluct ance. The Right llonourable Gentleman him self had commenced their proceedings that night with a motion relating to the health of Members. Now, let them think of the health of the poor as well as of their own.—(Hear, hear.) The Noble Lord had spoken in the highest terms of Dr. Reid's administration.—(A laugh.) Now he (Mr. Wakley) approved of that administration also in a salutary sense, and he would entreat the present Government to reconsider the subject under dis cussion. He might next be permitted to allude, for one moment to the statement of the Right Honourable Baronet, with reference to the Poor-law.—(Hear, hear.) He thought the time Which the Right Honourable Baronet asked for considering the subject was not unreasonable.—(Hear, hear, from the Opposition benches.) The Right ,Hon. Baronet asked that the Poor law should be continued in its present form until the month of July next year. He (Mr. W.) was bold to say that the time was• not too long.—(Renewed cries of " Hear, hear, hear," from the Opposition benches.) The subject was one of enormous magnitude—it was one which should be approached with so much judgment and consideration, that he felt it would not be unreasonable to allow the existing law to be pro longed for six months from the present time.— (Hear, hear.) He did trust that in the meantime the most sober judgment would be applied to the question, for it was one of such importance and involving so many great interests th at it was impossible for this House or the other House of Parliament to obtain the slightest re spect or confidence from the public, unless it' was treated with the consideration it deserved. He thought the time asked was not too long, for he had not heard any individual whatever say what he con sidered in the present state of things ought to be done with regard to that law.—(Hear, hear, from the Ministe rial benches.) No one could consider that the time asked by the Right Hon. Baronet was too protracted. He hoped that the interval would be employed in a calm consideration of the subject, so as to bring about such - an arrangement of that most im portant question as might be satisfactory to the com munity at large. Sir R. PEEL, said, that with regard to the mo tion which his Hon. Friend had brought forward, the Hon. Gentleman opposite had said the he hoped for some success in his opposition, because the measure was not brought forward on the responsibility of the Hon. Gentleman. Now, he considered that by bringing forward the question hat Government was as suming to itself the responsibility of the measure, because it was one which they could have abstained from bringing forward if they had thought proper. Therefore they were responsible for it ; that responsibility being, of course, shared by the Members of the Government who first proposed it. The Noble Lord had confined his expression of confidence to the administration of Dr. Reid, and had not seemed wil ling to extend his confidence to those who suc ceeded him in the Administration of the affairs of the country. Now he (Sir R. Peel) was disposed to admit that the Administration of one of the colleagues of the Noble Lord had been entitled to great con fidence. With respect to the exertions which had been made for the improvements of the parks, guarding himself against any more extended measure, he was inclined to consider that Lord Duncannon had great claims on his confidence. It was impossible to see the improvements which that Noble Lord had made without feeling that he was intitled to confidence; and when he heard that the present measure had received his approbation, it came with an ad ditional recommendation from such an authority. There could be no question as to the propriety of consolidating the six kitchen gardens ; it was desirable as a measure of economy.—.(Hear.) It was proposed to defray the expense of this consolidation by letting certain lands belonging to the Crown on building leases. To this ground the public had not at present any access. It was not subject to the control of the department of woods and forests. It was in the private occupa ti'n of the Crown and did not stand upon the same footing as ground to which the public never had had access, and it was proposed to apply the proceeds arising from the leasing of this ground for building purposes, to defray the expenses of the proposed consolidation. This was the whole arrangement. He trusted that that explanation would be deemed suffi cient, and that the consent of Parliament would be given to a measure which had met with the approbation of two successive Governments. Mr. EWART said he understood, from persons well acquainted with the neighbourhood, that a very general desire was felt that the gardens should be devoted to public purposes. Consolidation was exceedingly desir able, but it was still more so to consult the public interest. He would take that opportunity of calling the attention of the House to two other parks, viz. Kew and Richmond. Kew Park was only open to the public on cer tain clays ; and Richmond Park was open to pe destrians, and persons riding in their carriages, only as a matter of favour. He trusted that measures would be adopted for opening both Parks. There was one other subject to which he would allude, because it was connected with the recrea tion of the public. In the well-known basin at Bushy Park there was a statue of Diana, and a fountain had formerly played. He was sorry to say that that fountain had long ceased to flow, and he thought it would add to the appearance of the place, as well as to the enjoyment of the public, if it were revived. He hoped' the Right Hon. Baronet would give his attention to these matters. Sir T. FREMANTLE said he would give his attention to the subject referred to by the Hon. Member. The resolution was then agreed to, the House went into Committee, and the report was ordered to be brought up to-morrow. Lord JOHN RUSSELL requested the Chancellor of the Exchequer to state on what day he proposed to go into Committee of Ways and Means. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he would answer the question to-morrow. The Foreign Bishops' Bill was read a second time. Sir T. FREMANTLE brought in the Royal Domain Bill, which was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on Monday. The House then adjourned. SINGULAR OCCURRENCE AT CHISWICK.- Since Saturday last the family and establishment of a lady named Churton, residing at Sutton Court House, Sutton-lane, Chiswick, leading to the banks of the Thames at Stroud-on-the-Green, have been in a conti nued state of alarm and excitement by the windows of the mansion being continually broken, apparently by some supernatural agent, every method adopted for de tecting the party guilty of the outrage failing in its ob ject. The mansion in question is a detached one, with extensive grounds around it, the whole of which are en circled with high walls, so that the roof alone is visible from the outside. On the opposite side of the lane is also another high wall, which surrounds the domain of the Duke ref Devonshire, so that no other building over looks the premises. The windows first commenced breaking on Saturday last, and in consequence of the continuance of the outrage application was made to the police. Since then two constables of the T division have been placed on duty in the house and premises night and day ; and with the assistance of the gardner, coachman, butler, and other male servants, a continued watch has been kept up, but without preventing the outrage or ob taining any clue as to the perpetrators thereof. From half-past twelve to one o'clock on Wednesday morning several were broken, and from the fact of their being broken at the front as well as the back of the house, the matter has become more mysterious. A notice has been put up at the Horse Guards and both Houses of Parliament, issued by the Lords, complaining of the nuisance their Lordships are subject to from the noise caused by vehicles, when they are as sembled to debate on the affairs of Church and State. The House taking notice that there is such an interrup tion by hackney-coaches, cabs, carts, drays, &c., in the streets and passages leading to this House, that the Lords and others are frequently hindered from coining thereto, " It is therefore ordered by the Lords Spiritual and Tem poral in Parliament assembled, that the Commissioners of Police do give orders that no hackney coaches, carts, &c., he allowed to pass near the Houses of Parliament, when assembled, and that the Police do take into cus tody, and bring them before the Usher of the Black Rod, all persons who may be making a noise or disturb ance in the environs of this House, or Westminster Hall, to be punished accordingly; and that all the streets leading to this House be kept cleared of vehicles, &c." ATTEMPTED SELF-DESTRUCTION.—A des perate attempt at self-destruction was made yesterday afternoon by Mrs. James, wife of Mr. James, the thea trical hair-dresser of Russell court, Drury-line. Prom what could be learned during the confusion it would ap pear that husband and wife had had a few words, when she deliberately walked into the front shop, and taking up one of her husband's razors, made a gash in her throat almost extending from ear to ear. A surgeon was sent for, who immediately set about sewing up the wound, but little hopes are entertained of her recovery. Yesterday evening, between six and eight o'clock, the shop window of Messrs. G. and W. Yonge, No. 156, Strand, was cut, and sixteen new watches taken from it ; two of them were gold, twelve silver, and two very valuable enamelled repeaters, set with fine pearls, p o rtraits on one side, and moving figures on the other. SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS. FROM THE DAILY PAYERS OF YESTERDAY. GLOBE.—.As far as concerns the veteran leaders of Toryism it is quite right that Mr. Goulburn should be the genius of Tory finance. It is no less proper that the Duke of Buckingham should adorn a Landlords Alarm- Cabinet. Sir Edward Knatchbull is a highly appropriate watch-dog to keep guard on their movements. But what business have Lord Stanley and Sir J. Graham with class-alarmists ? What business have they to come out as bitter satirists of commercial Liberalism? Is it cre dible that fluskisson, had he survived, could have spoken their language ? These men stand in a lowered and a false position. There is language of theirs on record, which proves that they know better than the Knatchbull and Chandos crew. As fin- Sir Hobert Peel, he is not degraded by pandering to any prejudice ; because that knack is a main foundation of his fortune in politics. He is the right leader for the sinking party of respectable prejudices in the present age. He works them with the best effect, and surrenders them with the best grace possible. He fights them up until they are plainly un tenable any longer, and then he gives them up, and claims credit for himself and his followers in their abandonment ! This brings us to a brief estimate of the differe.nee between the two great parties, with reference to the operation of that difference on their -pining or losing power. The Whigs gain power at all those erocl; when new lights are required for Government. They lose power whenever habitual prejudices muster too strong for new lights. We do not mean, by saying this, to pronounce dogmatically- on the question of right or wrong between Whig and Tory opinions in all cases. Prejudice may sometimes be right, and reasoning may sometimes be wrong ; but so it is, that when prejudice has the upper hand, Tories bear sway. When reasoning surmounts prejudice, 'Whigs take the place of Tories. The latter are mainly the representatives of unexamined, accustomed opinions. The former are the correctors of those opinions, when they require correction; and the in novators on old regulations, when the public interest re quires new ones. It follows that, whenever thepublic mind has not matured itself on such measures of change as the Whig or Liberal party have selected for adoption, and whenever a powerful phalanx of class interests, in ad dition to the prejudices which oppose anything new, are brought against them, the Tories, have been beau jeu. It was so with Catholic Emancipation, which kept the Whigs many years from power, and enabled the Tories to " stand by our good old King," and fatten on bigotry not their own—not that, at least, of their more able leaders. It is so with Commercial Emanc pation ; only, instead of standing by our good old King, the Tories have stood against our good young Queen. No matter ; they have had the sable regiment, as before, and the Landwehr. The whirligig of time, however, is sure to bring about its revenges. If churchmen and landlords are talking nonsense, and opposing fancied in-. terests to real ones, then the church-and-land majority will melt beneath public opinion. Opinion is, in the long run, the dispenser of power, and opinion cannot for ever be smothered by unreasoning prejudices. STANDARD.—The re-assembling of Parliament revives curiosity as to the course which will be pursued by the Administration of Sir Robert Peel, in reference to the "deficit" prepared for them by their predecessors in office. It is an attestation of the public confidence, however, that this curiosity .is not very active: The people seem to feel on one side, that the resources of the country are ample, and on the other that the Ministers now directing public affairs will apply those resources in a manner that shall be at once most economical and beneficial, and least oppressive. We hear a good many loose surmises as to particular objects of taxation, and as to other modes of meeting the emergency—hut no one affects to speak with cer tainty; still less is it pretended by any one that revenue must be sought in this or that particular quarter, because it is u nattainable in any other—proof of the universal sil :ency, if we may so speak, of all classes of the people. Whatever line Sir Robert Peel shall take it must be acknowledged that he has kept his secret with ad mirable, and indeed with unexampled, inviolability ; and this is no small merit in a Finance Minister. The whole tribe of speculators are left completely at fault. All we can know at present is. that the Slave-Trade Abo • lition Bill will not be practically repealed, as the late Mi nisters would have it, for the sake of revenue—that the agricelture of the country is not to be exposed to ruin, by imposing a permanent and inexoralle tax upon the food of the people—that the cc/an/al and shipping interests aro not to be frittered away to round off a Budget. This knowledge we have ; but this is knowledge still of a negative character—it will nothing help the gam bling speculation. We may amuse ourselves with con jectures, and most of us do so ; but, at present we can hardly guess, and our guesses are suggested solely by what seems reasonable. A favourite anticipation is, that the postage stamp will be raised from one penny to towpence, threepence, or even . fourpcnee. Questionless. such an increase would be unobjectionable. We, for ourselves, have been throughout earnest promoters of a " cheap and uniform postage," the condition of which description would be completely fulfilled by a fourpenny stamp ; and from the first we protested against the penny stamp as unnecessarily low. During the short period while the stamp duty was at fourpence, the rate of increase in correspondence was, we believe, greater than it has been at any time since. There is, therefore, no reason to believe that the amount of correspondence would retrograde were the stamp raised to fourpence ; but a fourfill increase in the gross receipts of the Post-dfice would alone, if we are not mistaken, make it unnecessary to look further for revenue. Again, it ought to excite, we think, no surprise if Sir Robert Peel should content himself with an ar rangement to provide temporarily —fur the • deficit, and pause to observe whether the existing sources of revenue may not prove adequate to its extinction. COURlER.—Parliament re-assembles this evening, and then, for the first time, will Sir Robert Peel have a fair and legitimate opportunity of announcing the course he has determined upon adopting with regard to public business ; but, whether or not, the expected announce ment will put an end to the desperate suspense under which the organs of the late Ministry affect to labour, or satisfy their longings for detailed information as to the nature of the measures with which he proposes to repair the finan cial blunderings of his predecessors, and as to the precise character of the treatment he means to apply to the dis tempers in the body politic, aggravated if not engen dered by their system of ignorant but pretending charla tanism—remains to be seen. For our parts we entertain a tolerably confident opinion, be his explicitness, be his unreservedness in imparting information as to the inten tions of his Cabinet, or the definitive course of policy he purposes to pursue, what it may, that he cannot appease the craving of their appetite. Indeed we believe, were he to take them into his counsels and his confidence, and lay bare the inmost recesses of hiS soul, that they would still complain of being kept in tlfb dark with regard to his future plans and proceedings. It is their cue to be dissatisfied— REGISTRATION OF VOTERS (YESTERDAY.) CITY OF LONDON. On Wednesdayseveral caseslhaving been brotez,lit before the Revising Barrister, involving points on which he re ferred judgment until yesterday at ten o'clock, upon coming into Court, The Learned Gentleman said—ln many of the cases which came before me yesterday I reserved the considera tion of the question as to whether the notices of objection had been sufficiently served so as to authorise me to call upOn the persons objected to prove their qualifications, and in default thereof to strike out their names. These cases were of three kinds. In the first, and by far the most numerous of the cases, the • notice was served at the house described in the list as the place of abode of the voter, or at a house in the street, or such place described in the list as his place of residence, in each case the. person leaving the notice being informed that the voter at some 'former time had lived there but had since removed. In the,secOnd class attempts to serve the notices had failed in consequence of the party failing to discover the place of abode described in the list, although every means had been tried to effect it. A third case came before me in which it was proved that the voter had formerly lived at the place de scribed in the list, but the house in which he so resided had before the 31st of July last been taken down for the purpose of improving a railway station. I will here observe that the Legislature has shown great jea• lousy of the Revising Barristers, and has very strictly defined their powers, and declared that they shall retain on the lists the names of all persons except . in the cases mentioned particularly. By the 50th section the Revising Barrister shall retain on the lists of voters for such cities or boroughs the panics of all persons to whom no objection shall be made in the manner before-mentioned. The manner in which the objections are to be made to persons inserted in the livery lists, is stated in section 48. Now it is not pre tended that in any of these cases the notice of objection has been left at the voters' usual place of abode, but it has been contended that the names of those persons ought to be expunged, or, if not, that the voters ought to be held to have been sufficiently served for the 'purpose of requiring the persons objected to, to attend and prove their qualifications. Although I cannot accede to the former proposition, I think service at the house described in the list ought to be considered good ; but on an atten tive comparison of the different provisions of the Act which relates to the subject, I am satisfied that the wording of the 4th section will permit that con struction. In all cases of objection to borough voters, the notice should be given to those by whom the lists are made out. In the case of county voters the person ' objecting is required by the 39th section to give to the person objected to, or to leave at his usual residence, as described in the list, or to deli ver in person to the tenant occupying the premises. a notice to that effect. Now the county lists are made out from the written claims of the persons entitled to vote, and in every claim they are required to state their abode. In these cases it would be reasonable to hold that the claimant should be bound by his own statement, even it it had not been declared by the Act that service at the place of abode as de scribed in the lists would be good. But in the case of the liverymen of London the description of the place of abode does not come from the voter, but from the clerk or secretary of the Guild, and there is nothing in the Act to require the voter to give notice to such clerk or secretary of tusy change of resi dence nor is notice of a claim required, un less the name of the voter , has been omitted. There cannot be, then, the same reason to hold him bound by the description of the place of abode, as was the case with the country voter ; but if there were, the dif ference in the wording of the two clauses is so decided, that I feel I could not disregard it. I must hold that this difference was intended by the Legisla- ture ; yet, in case of an objection being made to a liveryman, the person objecting must prove that the notice was either given to the person ob jected to, or left at his usual place of -.abode. I am aware that by this construction of the 48th section the power to object to liverymen is rendered to a great extent inefficient, as the Act affords no means of ascertain• ing the voter's residence, and it is therefore with great reluctance that I have arrived at this conclusion. I have tried in vain to avoid the inconvenience arising from it. The intepretation of the 48th section is palpable. The powers of Revising Barristers are clearly defined, and if the Act be defective, the Legislature alone has the power to amend it. It had been argued, that when it was proved the party did not live at the place named in the list, I ought to consider the place of abode as wholly omitted from the list. However, Ido not consider myself justi fied in acting upon ex parte evidence in such a case. Mr. Quin said that with respect to the first point he considered the general practice of the Court had been de parted from. He understood the Court to have taken a different decision yesterday. • The Revising Barrister said he had reserved all the cases generally. Mr. Quin said he hoped the Court would not mis understand him, but he felt it his duty to trouble it with a few observations, although they might, perhaps, be useless. _ _ . Mr. Trot said, upon the next case coming forward, it would be open to any further objections which Mr. Quin might choose to urge. Mr. Quin said as the Court came to its conclusion he had too much respect for it to urge it further. The Revising Barrister said he was quite willing to hear any further arguments which Mr. Quin might have to advance, and give judgment accordingly ; but he un derstood them to have been concluded. The service of notice of objection should be proved. Mr. Quin—But we have no place to go to to serve the parties. The Reform Act was called by many a mass of absurdity, but here the clause was clear and easily understood. The 48th section regnires the no:ice to be served at the usual place of abode, but the diffi culty was,. what was the place of abode. hlow was the Court to know it ? Suppose a man had no fixed resi dence—suppose he was removing from place to place—what is the legal mode of service if the place described in the list be - not so ? Suppose a man was to go to Otaheite was he to be fol lowed there? The Court had remarked that these claims were not made out by the livery. He contended that they were, in the same way as they were made out by the county voters. The liverymen had many advantages which were not possessed by the county voters. Their names were placarded for fourteen days in the two most public parts of the City, the Guildhall and the Royal Exchange. It had been said that the Reform party were, generally speaking, adverse to the liverymen ; but in this act they gained great advantages ; and yet he was now to be told that a new construction was to be put upon the words " usual place of abode." The Act requires that the official of the Guild shall make out a list, and this person had no means of doing so but from the addresses put in by the livery men themselves. He (Mr. Quin) would suggest the immense difference between this Court and a Court of Review. The Learned Barrister was here as a Court of Revision, and to come to the root of the word " revise" perhaps it would be found most distinctly defined in its application to pointing where the revision was only to correct the typography, without trenching upon the spirit or meaning of the manuscript. If A, B. is described as living at 14, Throgmorton street, and that he is found to be gone to Calcutta, is that a reason for the Court to turn round and say he has not been served with a notice of objection ? Why, the very fact which dis entitles him to vote is the very means by which his name is retained. He believed that he should be able to show that persons whose names were still on the list had been dead upwards of seventeen years. The Registry would become one mass of . confusion, and with all respect to the Court, be should say any further exer tions on his part would be utterly hopeless ; and he Should sit down, saying he had no further objection to snake to /any one:of the livery.—(Several of the Con servative party here cried out " Hear," and manifested other marks of approbation.) The Reform Bill was burden sufficie..t on their shoulders without adding to it imaginary faults, and he believed that the Court, on looking at this matter again, would retnrn to the deci sion which he (Mr. Quin) understood it to have pro nounced yesterday. The Revising Barrister—l have acted according to the best intentions, and construed this act the same as any other one. I consider that I have no power to expui4e a name from the list, unless notice of objection has been served upon him personally, or left at his usual place of abode, I therefore consider that the names under revision are entitled to remain on the list. J. Brockwell, a liveryman of the Barbers' Company, described as living at Great Carter-lane, Doctors' Com mons, was objected to by Mr. Quin, as he resided at present in Patten-place, West Ham, Essex. The claimant, being examined, said that he still re tain a portion of the house in Great Carter-lane, and paid the taxes for all the premises. Mr. Quin said the 32d clause of the Act required the voter to live six calendar months within such borough, or seven miles thereof ; and under those circumstances, as West Ham was above seven miles from London, he con tended that Mr. Blackwell's name should be expunged. The Revising Barrister said his residing in kVestliam was unimportant, as he might have two residences. It did not follow, because he resided in West Ham, that he had not another residence in Great Carter-lane. Mr. Quin applied to have the name of Peter Harris Abbott struck off the list. The subject of the applica tion had been, as was pretty well known, one of the official assignees in the Court of Bankruptcy, and it was needless for him (Mr. Q.) to explain circumstances connected with this individual, which were already so publicly known. It was impossible to find out where lie was now, so as to enable him to be served with a notice ' of objection. Abbott not having been served with the usual notice of objection in accordance with the judgment of the Court delivered in the morning, the name was retained on the list. FATALACCIDENTON THE RIVER.—On Wed • ncsday afternoon, as a merchant-vessel was coming up the Thames, she suddenly struck on a sunken shoal, which caused such a concussion that the master, who was at the helm, was struck suddenly by the tiller, which laid him senseless on the deck. It was found that his jaw-bone was broken, and also several of his ribs. No time was lost by the mate and the crew in getting him into the boat, when they conveyed him on board the Dreadnought hospital-ship, where every assistance was afforded him by the surgeon, but he expired an hou afterwards. THREE YEARS OLD STEER.--A fine three years old steer, of the short horn breed, the property of James Bell, Esq., of Ravensworth, was weighed on the machine at Richmond, last week, which weighed 144 stone 7 lb. He was bred by Mr. 8011, and never had any oil cake or any extra feed.— York Courant, "They would not, if they could, be gay ;" and therefore all that can be done in the way of as suaging their insane longing for a peep into the secrets of the Cabinet will only tend to inflame their passion to a still higher pitch of frenzy and extravagance. Now, under this affected anxiety on their parts to be made acquainted with the purposes, the designs and aiins of the recently-formed Government, appears to us to lurk a spirit of dishonest and desperate factiousness, the object being to thwart and impeach them, to defame and denounce their authors, and obstruct, if not defeat, every attempt to give them effect and vitality. This we take to be.one of their main objects in so preposterously demanding from Sir Robert Peel an immediate and detailed exposition of the various measures to which it may be necessary for him to resort, in order to make good the deficiencies, repair thy mischiefs, and correct the errors of those who went before him. But it is not their only factious purpose ; for they are silly enough to suppose that their groundless and perfectly gratuitous clamours, re echoed by a contemptible clique of Anti-Corn-law spouters in Southwark and Manchester, may have the effect the Minister of the Crown into prema e a of f pleng c i ipitate adoption of some one particular line of policy, as well as into a premature declaration to that effect; but the. rebukes their over-eager expectations in that respect have already received, and the uns!laken firmness with which the head of the Cabinet has reserved the declaration of his intentions for the proper occasion, should, one would think, have proved to them the folly and absurdity of such expectations. We can assure them, for their especial comfort, that they may clamour as loudly and as long as their lungs will permit, that they may bluster and coax, alternate threats with en treaties, im.naces with prayers, but nevertheless that they would not compel a disclosure of Cabinet secrets, or of the measures prepared or being prepared by her Majesty's Government one hour before the proper time for making Ministerial announcements shall have arrived. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. MANSION-HOUSE. A strapping masculine woman, named Eliza Parl2, was brought before Alderman Pirie charged with having robbed a tide-surveyor of the Customs of two sovereigns. Mr. Kemp, the prosecutor, stated that after having visited, according to orders, son' ships in the docks, he was returning home, and mor the Monument he slipped and fell to the ground. The moment he was down the prisoner crossed over to him, clapped her hand in his pocket, and whipped out of his pocket two sovereigns, which were contained in a leathern bag. He got up as speedily as he could, and accused her of the robbery, but she ran off as fast as she could. Witness, upon looking round, perceived that his umbrella had disappeared as well as his money. He ran in the direction which the woman took, and with the assistance of a policeman she was apprehended with his two sovereigns in her asked the hand. - e sation with vho he attended o for b e t c h : p n s o o n n v e e r r , A prosecutor soliclt whether r. the woman for some time before he accused her of the robbery The Prosecutor —Not at all. She had followed me across the street, but all the conversation I had with her consisted in my charging her with the robbery. A policeman stated that he heard the cry of " Stop thief" at half-past ten o'clock, and being on the sharp look-out, saw the prisoner running, and caught her in his arms. The moment he had her in his embrace he asked her whether it was all right ? " Oh, yes," said she, "it is all right. Come along and I'll treat - you." When she feared that she was in danger, she endeavoured to escape. Witness found the two sovereigns in her hand, and 0 /. 10s. in her pocket. The prisoner said that upon her honour she was as innocent as a new-born babe. Alderman PIRIE—I can't take your honour against this gentleman's oath. The Prisoner—Well, then, upon my oath, I never saw , the roan till he accused me of doing what I never thought of doing —robbing him. I hope Piull b e li eve me . ,Committed for trial. CHARTIST MEETING. Last evening; meetingof the advocates of the People's Charter was held at the Montpelier Tavern, Camberwell. The Chair was taken at eight o'clock, when Mr. F. O ' CONNOR rose, and, after some preliminary observations, said it was now time for the people to know their friends from their enemies. He had said that the Whigs were devils. The Tories were devils in hell. It was possible to meet a good devil out of hell, but impos sible to meet one in it. One of those gentry goes down to Dorchester, where the 'Whigs had ma nifested their tender mercies to the labourers ; hut a Tory was returned without opposition. It would not be right to tell Sir James Graham that he lied, but he should tell him that he laboured under a mistake.—(Laughter.) What reason did the Right lion. Baronet assign to the Dorchester labourers for his defection from the Whigs ? Why, that they were grant ing Mr. O'Connell such a degree of power as was likely to prove injurious to the Church of Ireland ; and yet there was now a part and parcel of the Administration of Peel—of Peel who, in *the year 1835, said he was in clined to trench more, in the ratio of one-fifth, on the Church temporalities in Ireland than Earl Grey did. The receipt and disposal of money and place in the hands of the ruling power in this country was enormous, and he thought he could see the Whigs' chops watering when they saw Peel disposing of the pa tronage. But there was what was called a Constitutional opposition in the House of Commons. He thanked God the days had gone by when empty sounds could induce the country to submit patiently to suffering and. starva tion. There was Russell, and Macauley, and Buller, who formed a portion of this Constitutional opposition. He could easily forgive Mr. Macauley, for his remark made in Edinburgh, that he (Mr. Macauley) would sooner submit to the despotism of the Czar of Russia than to him (Mr. O'Connor), but when Mr. Macauley saw the might of the people he would be one of the first to announce the hour had arrived for granting the six points of the People's Charter. Mr. Buller, he had no doubt, would follow in his wake, and then, thank God, they had Sharman Crawford and Tom Duncombe in the House, and General Johnson, with a few others who would support the people, and would not allow even the press to sleep. In the Times of Monday it was said that while the Whigs were divided into many sections, there never was a time when the Tory party were more united. An invading army was always united until the time for dividing the spoil came.. Mr. Sergeant Jackson expected to be Attorney-General—thank God he was disappointed —(Cheers)—he expected to be Solicitor-General—thank God he was disappointed—(Cheers)—and they would now see how he will fight the cause of the Orangemen, and keep up a perpetual motion to make Peel give him something, or else he will soon form a new party. Now, if disunion would be fatal to them, with the army and navy, and the treasury, at their back, it behoved them to bear in mind the necessity of perfect union. He had been confined but not disgraced, and both he and the Whigs were out together. He left York Castle at the time the Whigs were making their parting bow to the Treasury Benches.—(Cheers and laughter.) The Whigs had lost their power because they tam pered with the rights of the people. Their excuse was, that the House of Lords was against them ; but the Whig aristocrats whispered to the lordlings " For God's sake stop us ; we are going too far !" and the Lords met the Commons in the Painted Chamber with their hats off, and their bills in their hands ; and the Lords met the Commons with their hats on, and kicked out the bills and amendments both, and then Lord John said' the time had not yet arrived to come into conflict with the Lords. To be sure, Lord John would be very sorry to come into conflict with his brother of Bedford and other immaculates of his order. There was little use .in struggling for household suf frage, because the one tomb would contain both house hold suffrage and universal suffrage on the attempt being made to gain it. Peel saiethat night in the House of Commons • he would continue the New Poor law Bill in operation until next July. But he (Mr. O'Connor) thought they would not allow him to do so. The Learned Gentleman, after expatiating at great length on the operation of the Poor-law and the effects of ma chinery, proceeded to say, that the Globe of yesterday said jeeringly, in the next Ministry her Majesty would form Mr. Feargus O'Connor would be called. If he were, he would say to her, keep your ladies about you ; we don't want to interfere in your bedchamber aTrange men ts, but in the name of common sense, as you are a young girl, and have been called at the age of 18 to rule over a mighty empire, let every man of 21 years have the power to choose those N ebo are to rule over him.—(Loud cheers) He would call upon every one in that vast meeting, which at least numbered 3,000, to hold up their hands who were possessed of the franchise. (Sixteen persons only in the assembly here held up their hands.) Here were sixteen hands held up—they were the masters, the rest of the meeting their slaves.—(Hear, hear.) The Sun and the Morning Advertiser were the only newspa pers which sent reporters to that meeting; the rest of the daily press, forsooth, would say they were too busily en gaged at the House of Commons. But he would tell them that it was of more importance to the press to at tend such meetings as the present, than at many of the sleeping debates in the House of Commons or Lords either. The press, in relation to the people, stood in a position of mighty responsibility; for the ridicule which certain portions of the press cast upon the people tended to exasperate the people, and disturb the elements of so ciety. Those who would not, or could not think for themselves, took the ipse dixit, and disregarded the volcano which was bursting forth at their feet.. Those who dis pute the stake which the operative classes possess in the well-being of the country are sadly mis taken. They have a greater interest in it than the middle or upper classes, for the two latter have something for the rainy day, while the labourer has nothing but his weekly wages. The eminent banking establishment of Hobhouse and Company, at Bath, have failed. This may, in a great measure, be attributed to the distress among the working classes, for they being unable to purchase from the retailers, the merchant's stock lies on his hands, and he is unable to pay his banker ; thus the contagion spreads through the whole system.—(hear.) After some further observations, the Learned Gentleman said, that Mr. Hethe rington had challenged him to a discussion as to whether the Chartist named the " Lovett Chartist," or the Chartist of the National Association, was the better. he (Mr. O'Connor) had to leave town until Monday, after which he should meet Mr. Hetherington. He did not yet know where the meeting would take place, as lie had left the arrangement entirely in the hands of the other party ; but Tuesday was the day fixed for the discussion. His object in meeting Mr. Hetherington would be to adduce truth ; and if there were divisions to arise amongst the Chartist body, to let the blame of such divisions lie at the door of the erring party.—(Loud and long-continued cheering.) Several other gentlemen having spoken, the meeting adjourned about eleven o'clock. MEETING AT BRIGHTON. BRIGIITON, SEPT. 13.—Last night, one of the largest meetings, perhaps, that ever took place, was held at the Town-hall, to petition Parliament for an extension of the suffrage and vote by ballot. Upwards of 2,000 per sons were present. Amongst those on the platform were, ! Capt. Pechell, M.P., J. N. Wigney, Esq., M.l'., Colontl Trickey, Major Allen, Mr. Hilton, and many of the most respectable tradesmen of the town. Mr. Hilton rose to propose the first resolution, to t'ae effect " That it was the opinion of the meeting that a full, f dr. rril free representation of the people is essential to good Go- vernment ; and that, however well -intend3d, the Ref irm Bill had failed in its object, as all the evils that ex isted under the old and corrupt s stem of r: pre- sentation have not only been perpetrates, but actual 'y increased under that Bill ; that tie re:o sentiments of the people are never expressed or known, a! d an estrangement exists between the Gove nment and the people. That to remedy the evils eff-ctuallv, it was necessary to establish vote by Ballot." He (M... fli . ton) was satisfied there must be an i-xten ion of the suf frage before the cf's of the country wero- remedied. — (Hear, hear.) Gr3at distress pr.-vailed th:oaghout the land, not only among the small sh )pkeepers, but it was extending to so ne of the first mer hints of the country.—(llear, he ir.) Something must be wrong to cause such a state of things, and noth..nz bit an extension of the suffrage, coupled with Vot3 by Ballot, would set the affairs of this great nation in their proper light.—(Loud cheers.) They a 1 kne,v that the r.sult of the late general election was against the people's intere it, but it would not have been so if every man who ought to have had a vote had been able to rocord it. He cared not how far the suffrage was extended, so that it was accompanied with Vote by Ballot. Let the people have both, and it would go a long way to re medy their distress.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") Colonel Trickey seconded the resolution. The Rev. Mr. Ed wards proposed the second resolution, to the effect that a petition beiresented to Parliament, based on the re solution just passed, which was seconded by Mr. Cooper. Captain Pechell rose to address the meeting, and was re ceived with much applause. He said it was very satisfac tory to be . present at such a meeting. He had always been of opinion that the electi ve f ranc hi se was con fi ne d to too narrow a basis, and they mi g ht b e sa ti s fi e d he would seize every opportunity of recording his vote when its ex tension was sought. It had b een p rove d i n B r i g h ton t h at protection to the voter was indispensable. As elections were now conducted, they were a moc k ery an d i nsu l t to the nation. The franchise was of little value without a barrier was set up again s t th e corru pti on an d intimi dation which prevailed. This intimidation had been carried onto a fearful e x t e nt, an d man y per s ons were now suffering for exercising their independence.—(Hear, hear.) It was on these grounds that he should do all in his power to promote the object of so respectable a meeting. J. N. Wigney, Esq., ALP , next addressed the meeting amidst cheers and much uproar. He said that in conjunction with his Hon. and Gallant Colleague, he should have great pleasure in supporting the prayer of the petition.—(Loud cheers.) The Hon. Member went into a long explanation about a recent vote he had given in the House, which dissatisfied agreafnumber of his con stituents, and congratulated them upon the unanimity of their proceedings. He hoped they would ultimately obtain their object, which would be an ample reward for , I all past privations and misery. After a vot e of thanks to the Chairman the meeting separated. FATAL ACCIDENT AT WOOLWICH. -- Yes terday forenoon u party of the Royal Horse Artillerycer at- tended for practice on the Common, principally to as tain the speed and efficiency of some horses recently im ported for the service from Ireland, compared with the horses recently employed. When charging across the Common, one of the riding horses came down with his rider, a fine young man, of No. 4, Rocket Troop, a driver, of the name of Wilson, and before file other horses could be pulled up he was dragged about ten yards, and the wheel of the gun carriage went over his head and killed him on the spot, the skull being literally crushed in. Dri ver Wilson, who has thus met with an untimely end, was unmarried, and highly respected in the regiment. EVENING SUN THE HARVEST-THE CORN LAWS. With a few days more of weather equal to the last four days, the harvest in this neighbourhood will be over, and the built of it secured ; and then the farmer may see, in the falling markets, how little interest ha really has in supporting the present system of Corn laws. A thousand times we have been told, that with out the protection afForded by these or some similar system of laws, agriculture in this country must be ruMed ; and it has in vain been asserted and demon strated, that in whatever light these laws may be represented by those having an interest in upholding them, they weic intended only for the protection of the landed proprietor. His interests, certainly, have been c ffectually served by them, as the rent paid for land in every, district of the kingdom most amply and unequivocally testifies. But although the farmer pays an adelitional rent to the landlord for the protection it is supposed those laws afford him, the ques tion still recurs as to whether they do afford him that protection for which he pays. It is clear, that any al teration of the laws having the cif.ct of eliminishiug the price of agricultural produce in the market, is just so much money out of the pockets of the farmer who pays a money-rent for his farm ; and it is equally clear that he has no c!airn for indemnification from the 1 endiord for way loss he may so incur. Let us consider for a mo ment, then, how far this protection for which the farmer pays, is effectual. For several years preceding 1838, farming had been one of the most unfortunate concerns in this country . All farmers had been losing money, and many were utterly ruined. A successicn of fine seasons some years before the period of which we are now speaking, had brought the price of wheat, of as flue quality as eser was produced in this country, as low as forty shillings a quarter. The lower the price, the greater the quantity thrown into the market, for this plain reason, that the farmer had a certain sum to make up in payment of his rent and other expenses ; and if one hundred quarters of grain were not sufficiett to make up the sum, he was under the necessity of sending such further quantity as might be required for the purpose ; and thus the very effarts he was making for his extrication, only involved him the more deeply, by relueing the value of his commodity in the market. The taro quantities thus brought into the market were bought up and stored by speculators, who calculated safely that the first years of a defectise crop would afford them an ample return for their money. In the meantime, the farmer is grievously pressed for cash, and for a succession of years every bushel of grain was out of his hands as fast as it. could be got into condition for the market ; and, with very few exceptions, the st eek-yards were thoroughly cleared by the month of Mares'. This state of mat ters continued for several years, till about the time that the crop of 1838 was brought to the mai-ket, when mat ters began to improve. It' the farmers had then had in their possession the grain which they had been forced to sell to speculators, by whom much of it was still held, it would have enabled them to pay every one, and have lift an ample reversion besides. It was not, however, in their hands, and they had the martific Lion of seeing wheat which they had grown, aid had sold at 40s. a quarter, bring 70s. and upwards in the market; while they themselves, from the inferior qua lity of the then current year's crop, could realise oaly about 60s. Thus, from the difficulties which several years of low prices had brought upoa them, they had to force their produce prematurely u?on the market, and dispose of it at such prices as they could obtain; and so, with only occasional slight differences, matters have continued thl the present season. This year, the crop, with few exceptions, was out of the hands of the farmer by the end of April ; so that a very small num ber of them oily have benefited, cud that only to a small extent, by the recent adraece in the prices ; end thence arises the question as to how far the farmer is protected by a system of Corn-laws for which he pays to his landlord an additional rent, commen surate not to the protection he gets, but to the protec tion be expects. In the first place there is no consider. able rise in price ti 1 the farmer ha; no grain to sell ; and hence the holders only, and not the growers, are benefited. But the question as regards the farmer, does not remain in this neutral state. There were symptoms this se eson of an unfavourable as well as a deficient harvest ; and, while the farmer trembled at the appearance of a scanty crop, and that of inferior quality, the speculator was at, work, pouring in thou sands of quer era into our bonded warehouses; every expedient being tried (revolting as sons of these ex pedient, are) to keep up the averages till they arrived at the price at which grain can be admitted to our markets at a trifling or nominal duty. It must be closely kept in view, that tl c farmer, meanwhile, is de riving no benefit from the high prices, his crop having been disposed of some months previously. The averages, however, at last arrive at the point at which the grain can be liberated ; and the ware houses everywhere being choke-full, the market is in undated, and the farmer is deprived of the power of realizing the price for his grail which otherwise he would obtain, and that at the only period during which it would benefit him—that is, between the end of harvest and the middle or end of spring, when he has grain to sell. So it has been for years past, and so wid it be now Toe grain in bond wid be immediately set free, and brought te market, in competition with the farmer, at the only season of the yimr when it is in his power to be a competitor at all ; and thus probably, for a time, reduce the prices below what will remune rate him for his outlay and labour.—Scotsmen. AN ENGLISH LADY IN A PAGODA. While at Wallajahhad I became acquainted with a Brahmin, whom Major C had rendered sonic littie service, and he was frequently at our house, and endeavoured to teach the the game of chess, in which he himself was a great proficient. On one occasion when he was in high good humour, having beat me game after game for a whale week, I mentioned to him the great desire I had to see the inside of one of the Conjeveram pagodas, no Europeans being ever al. lowed to go in. lie hesitated a great deal, and at last told me it was impossible to grant my request ; how ever, I still persevered, and at length carried my point. The following day a feast or ceremony was in the largest and most beautiful of the temples. My Brahmin told me to be there an hour earlier, and he would see what lie could de. I gladly and readily av tiled myself of this permission, and accordingly was conveyed in a Palanquin to Conjeveram, and had it placed under a row of fine trees opposite the great domed pagoda. I had gone in a very long white mus lin dress, and had braided my hair across my forehead, and twisted it behind like the natives-, to be as little conspicuous as pce.sible, while a large and thickly , sprigged black veil was over my head and face ; I had also black silk gloves and stockings. I alighted and walked into the outer circle of the pagoda, with two of my bearers close to me, the torntoms, drums, and cymbals, making a most deafening noise. I had sta tioned myself near the door of the grand entrance, where I had not remained above a few minutes, when my venerable friend made his appearance ; he told me he had consulted with one of the head people, and I might be permitted to see the place before the grand ceremony commenced, provided I would enter without my shoes and give ten rupees to one of the gods, both which conditions I agreed to. I hastened back to my palanquin, and took off my shoes, and, accompanied as before, resumed my place within the grand entrance. My boys were ordered to remain behind ; being of a different caste, they were not allowed to go further. I followed my conductor through m my long and dark passages, where I heard shrieks and groans, apparently proceeding from recesses that were close by me. My heart peat very quickly. I heartily repented of my curiosity, and Set felt ashamed to turn back. At length we arrived in one of the most beautiful vestibules I had ever beheld or my imagination could ever picture ; it was lighted from the top of the dome, and the mid-day sun cast his piercing rays dawn upon us. The pavement was of the finest white marble, inlaid with coloured stones in the shape of hideous urn; sters ; under what cl ass o f d escr iption to them, it is impossible to say. Toe walls were alsoo.f. marble, to the height of pe r haps 150 feet ; feet they broad,w er and about ten feet betweea each other, in w shaped so as to form recesses of about four placed images, or as they call them , swarne”. feet of them hich Te were alternately silver e wheesr landg°ll and rub some ten or twelve high, with emerald y eyes, ao sight.their a ira nd th s e om m e os o t f f a ces, who, from fear of ese calling down the vengean ce were men lying flat oa their of us the Rod, or a t , h; fu m l see m a mannered t o e s t fn a r r e e down many n u i p . o t n ,. to avoid a tillj eyes, s : they v''o u s l v d e r e cr out of glarestomachs mlike their a p r s e n c a i o k u a s L for my departur e, and though I felt much incline d My Brahmin friend , I saw dearly, began to b e anx i ous 6 to rebel a gainst his authority, he conducted me ' once more through the dark and' narrow pas ' sages, and we reached the outer court just as a crowd of Brahmins and dancing-girls were entering the great gates. I hurried to my palanquin, being anxious to put on my shoes ; for, though a very hot day, I felt sid groans c hilled by standing so long on the marble p avement . I inquired next day of my conductor whether I h a d been a mistaken w epassed along th in imagining I had heard shrieks a and said I dirk passages. I b a had not, the and that community he y were inflicting occasioned penance t some hei r b o m d e i e n i s ". —Mrs. Major Clemons. WOOLWICH, SEPT. 15 . —ROYAL ARTIL• LERY.—Lieutenant-General the Right Honourable Sir George Murray, G.C.B. and G.C.H., the Master-General of the Ordmanee, is expected to visit the Garrison at Woolwich in the course of this or early next week, to be introduc NI to the offi2ers of the Ro) al Artillery and Royal Engi leas, and the heads of the departments in the Royal Ar,enal on his appointment. The Kingsto irn harbour lights are altered by order of the Dublin Port Corporation, from the present revolving light showing red and white lights alternately, and seen at t„horter intervals of time. Another im-. provenunt is the fixing a small red light on the west pier bead. Lro' r o t; 0 0 I