The Sun. — London, England, 1819-10-23 00:00:00

FOR THE SUN. 70 JOHN BULL, ESQ. LETTER VIII. HONEST JOHlq—As you seem now to have cool ed a little upon the anvil of Patriotism, a word or two from an old friend may not be unacceptable; indeed 1 have such a regard for you, and your • agreeable family, that for the soul of me I can not help writing to one or other of you whenever any thing, a little out of the usual way, strikes: my fancy. I say to myself - , " What will Mrs. BULL say to this ?" For you know JOHNNY, she has something to say upon every subject—or, " what ought JOHNNY to say to it I"—For you well know, my good friend, that you are always expected to give your opinion upon every sub ject whether you understand it or not. Impelled by this idea, I now seize upon the first lull of the political storm, in hopes that you • will take advantage of the interval between In quests and County Meetings and the Meeting of Parliament, to overhaul your rigging, and to overhaul your log-book so as to correct your - reckoning for drift and lee-way, for which purpose we shall take an observation or two of the Moon and Dog Star, both near the Zenith, and whilst you take time I shall endeavour to reduce the Lunar altitudes by correcting for the dip of party and the retraction of self interest. In short, JOHNNY, I hope we shall be able, by the (pa drant of double reflection, to reduce the erroneous distances between modern Politics and Common Sense, and bring the corrected times to the uteri dian of sound judgment. But—metaphor apart — let us now my old friend look coolly at the tittle which looks like argemeot, as trrged upon the Nenchester Question ; in which, however,' it is always first assumed that the Meeting was " legal and peaceable." NOw,Joutese, in order to shorten argument, for I ioa . not fond of very long stories, I will at wire allow that the Meeting was legal and peare 6.We —but I must also contend that it was the I•nust illegal and most revolutionary of any Meet jog that has yet taken place upon the Radical Plan ! You stare, JOHNNY, at the paradox—hut you like paradoxes and political conundrum'', atrri 1 like to hurimer You, especielly as I shall be able to illustrate the point most pointedly by a case is point at this Very moment before the Police Dlsgistraies of the Metropolis. The Whigs, Radi cals, and Co. tell you that the Meeting was ! and I will allow that the Specific Re quisition for calling that Meeting, was strictly legal in point of form, and also, that it is Strictly legal for the people of England to meet to discuss their grievances, and to consider and prepare Pe titions for their redress, provided such Meeting is brought together, conducted end concluded in a strictly legal manner. That the Mertipg was peaceable, inasmuch as it 1101 proceeded actually to violence, previous to the advance' of the Civil power, aided by the litary, to execute warrants of apprehension, I wilt also allow=-hut not an iota beyond that—thus far political sophistry, by assuming alt the facts in its own favour ; and suppressing all'inhers, may seem to E.!stabli,lt how ditl the case redly stand JokiNNY•I • In the first place, a Meeting was called to take place at Manchester, on a specific day, to return a Representative for that unrepresented town to Palliament. Now, if the thing ought to have been done, surely the Inhabitants of Manchester were the only persons that had a right to vote, unless Universal Suffrage is to permit Mr. Howl: to raise an army of Electors, and proceed•toevery , place whgre an Election is pending, in order .to save the real Electors all unnecessary trouble. But avbat'was the fact-? What was the plan for collecting this Meeting at Manchester ? Why that seventy thoesand people, not one of them an in habitant .of the place, were summoned float dis tances of several miles, to meet a few Radicals of the town, and a tern itinerant Orators, to force a Representative on that place by acclamation, with- , out the consent or approbation of the major ity Now, JOHNNY, 'tis not in the power of .sophis try to overturn these facts ; and I shall therefore ask you—Al/as the Universal Suffrage that you wish for is all that these Reformers, you '.plainly see, -intend to allow you, perhaps not so • much; so take your choice. Will you he content , to wink hard until you earn as much as will pur chase a forty shilling freehold, or will you at ()nee submit your present and future franchises- to a , mob, who, with a Parliament thus constituted, would soon make as free with your Property-as , with your Liberty ? • But the_ agents in this affair, consulting Coon _ gel, and finding that their Meeting under such pre. tepees would be illegal, postpone the assemblage to snot her clay, accompanied by a new litqaisi• tiott, cailidg on. the 'same persons, under the saute Chaiiinan, to meet for certain constitutional purposes: Now, JOHNNY, here is a new case for tire Crown Lawyers, that bas not hitherto been itaited.—The Requisition, we grant, was legally Wonted ; but that Requisition being coupled with, and proceeding from, one that was decidedly illegal, was bona fide vitiated and illegalized by that very connection ; so that, even in this point of view • alone, the Meeting that did take place was illegal, and the Magistrates were fully justified in seizing the riugleathrs, and taking all other forcible-steps_ in putting it down, as long as that was not done with unnecessary violence or cruelty. This is a consideration totally independent of the points that form the charge of conspiracy ; totally independent of the threatening rotes gestures, flags, mottos, &c. and one that r quires no reading of Riot Acts or waiting until l‘tenchester was set on fire. Now, JonNaY, this is wonderfully well illus trated by the recent case in Bridge-street, not very far from the shop of the Patriotic Alderman. A coachman, feeling for cite general distresses of time Radicals, called, like Mr. Hunt, several meet ings of his friends at various public-houses, when it was agreed to raise a subscription either by voluntat y or involuntary Juan, and Coachy, as we, are told by an accomplice, issued a requisition to At u late hour this day, we received the Paris Papers of Tuesday last. Those of Wednesday still remain due. The following are Extracts : " PARIS, OtT. 19.—Yesterday, the Saxon _Minister, at a private 'audience, presented to the King the Baron de Friesei►, Grand Chamberlain of the King of Saxony. His Majesty afterwards took an airing to Argenteuil. ' " The Duke de Bellutie had Si private audience yesterday :ortlie King. His Majesty also trans acted business with, the Marquess Dessoiles.. ' 4 There .were doubts yesterday afternoon it.t the Hotel of the English Ambassador as to the arri, val of the Ptiriee 7 s*Of Wales. "There appears even reason to'believe :that her Royal flightless would pursue bei— journey without passing through, at least without stopping in the Capital. We learn from Lyons, that the Prince'ss ‘‘'as desirous of maintaining in that city the strictest Incognito. (Journal de Paris.) " It is stated from Frankfort, that the Duke de Richelieu set out the 13th inst. to proceed to Holland. " Accounts front, Vannes state, that several English families are fortithig establishments in the Department of Morbilian and the neighbouring Departments. "A woman, aged 62, is stated to have been de livered a( Metz t;t her first child, after being mar ried 27 years. " Frond Boulogne, the 11 thinst., it is stated, The English gallirit William, Mitchell, of Blyth, bound from Santander to London, with 3A hales of wool, was wrecked off Berck, in the arrondissement of Montreuil, in tire night of the 7th inst. The crew were saved, but a passenger perished ; 250 bales of wool were also saved.' FIVE PER CENTS. Monday DEFERRED •STOCK. Of the 9.2 d March, 1817, A 9 1. 90c. 22d Sept,- 1817, 42 1 March, 1818, 88 1. 90 c / . 2211 Sept. • iBl3, B6l. 90 c. 2211 March, 1819, B4 f. 90 C. 22d Sept. , 1819, B2 to. 90,c. " LEIPSIC, OCT, 7..—Private letters received to-clay announce the arrival of the'Emperor• of Russia and the Gram! Duke Nicholas at Warsaw ;- the latter, it is tinderstood, intends to proceed to .lierlin to visit the King of Prussia, his bv(,ther in-law, the seamnbeing toofar advanced. to al low of the latter going to Warsaw. " AlavaNes, OCT. 13.—Two of the Members • of the Commission to be established in this city, have arrived here, and the others are shortly. ex pected. The Commission is to assemble for the first time on \ the 15th instant. It has very ex tensive powers, so as to enable it to order the artest of all persons against whom there are ac cu :ions.--Several Germans, who have written in a democratic style, have in consequence, for the present, absented themselves. " LaMBERG. OCT. I.—Rectulfs are levying in ikussia at the rate of one man in fifty." EXTRACT OF A, LETTER FROM CURAcOA, AUG. 26. " We have received the official intelligence of the fall of Barcelona by the Expedition from Mar garita. There were only 40 men found on the works ; they defended themselves bravely, till the whole of their ammunition was expended, and were afterwards all of them put to death. The Commandant of the place, GoNIA, sent a body ofi Cavalry, about 30 men, and a Lieutenant, to re-; connoitre the enemy ; they got as far as the su-• barbs, of Barcelona without meeting any opposi tion ; they then surprised a picquet of 6 men and a serjeant, whom they put to death before the alarm. was given. They then advanced into the town in' like manner, surprised a Lieutenant (an English man) and 10 men, who were doing duty at the Quarters of General URDANETA, The Spaniards sonn overpowered them, and took the English Litiutenant prisoner, and, in order to secure him . properly, tied him between two fat their horses.— UnoANETA in the mean time made his escape out of the house, and gave the alarm, when the Spa niards being obliged to retreat, gallopped off with. ti!e, unfortunate Lieutenant, who, shocking to re late, was literally 'dragged to pieces.—GUERERA, who commands the Spanish flecheras, lately cap tured a sloop from St. Enstatia, under Dutch colours, and an English schooner from' Sr. Tho mas, both laden with provisions and clothing for the use of the Independents in Barcelona. These vessels were sent into Cunaana to be un loaded, and no doubt will soon fall again into the Patriots' possession, as that place is expected not to hold out long, PAREIRA, an Indian Chief, at tached to the Spanish cause, has intercepted 2000 head of cattle sent by Maus's", for the supply of URDANETA'S Army and the English Forces. The report we had here of an engagement between the Spanish and Patriot NaVal Forces turns out to be incorrect. It appears the fleets were some time , in sight Of each other, but that neither of them spewed any disposition to fight. The Spanish men of war, Nymph and Tyger, were both in Puerto Cabello, according to our last accounts," ATURDiII OF SPANISH OFFICERS.—A Circular of Don VEZULA, the Viceroy of Peru, and General Orders to the Army of Lima, announces tho.re ceipt' of intelligence, that thirty-nine of ,the Spanish prisoners, captured by .the Insurgents, in the battle of Maypu, bad , been wan tonly massacred on the Bth of February .last and requiring of the Chiefs in the Viceroyalty to send to him a list of all the prisoners in, their *districts, assuring them that as soon as the will of the King could be known, the names of their slaughtered countrythen would be . appeased, by a just and rigid retaliation on the partizans of their murderers; in the•mean time requiring them to treat their prisoners with humanity. The Officers' Massacred are stated to be, 1 Brigadier-General, 3 Lieut.-Colonels, and 3:5 Officers of other Guards.—(Havannah Paper.) We' believe, that no man of common sense will hesitate in admitting that the state of ihe'Country demands the full energy of protecting Measures. If,. therefore, as we may suppose is the' r iact, Government has • resolved that ten thousand men in our Military' Establishment, shall be in readiness for that purpose, it is a proof that Ministers are not sleeping on their Posts, but are determined to defend the Constitti. tion from the attacks of Rebels, who under the hollow pretence of Parlianientary ',Reform, have nothing in view but, its total demolition. We wish‘ that Government had adopted this measure before, and had given an intimation that such was its intention; The seditious mi4creants, the dar ing traitors, might then perhaps have been deterred from holding those Nieetings,which always portend mischief, and which produced such lamentable events at Manchester, events, however, which have been much exaggerated, and have been cm.; ployed as a handle for Faction, and a topic for the rancorous scurrility of the Jacobin Newspapers. But as The (Old) Times is now in cordial Radical Union with The Morning Chronicle, that. Paper has also taken alarm at a reported augmentation of the Army, and because we are at peace with our neighbours," naturally infers, that at the troops are not to be used abroad, t h ey are t ° be used at home. Really a shrewd logical (led duction. " This," says The Times, " and M i l : flusters must unite with us , argues a l a ineutat" necessity." It does, indeed, and H 5 we 1111113 nothing to fear from our' neighbours, and every thing to fear from domestic enemies, we reici ce that Ministers have resolved to guard ag B i ns . t this " lamentable necessity," by a temporal exertion of military force, in order to ke e l' down rebellion, and to render the danger 018 ° temporary, and not vitally de,structive of the C" . stitution. The part taken by Earl Frrzwir.cram, moting the York County Meeting,-and giving. l sanction of his presence on the occasion, t 0 Meeting for the purpose of passing the sentence cs . guilt upon what is to be the subject o f judici al enquiry,. has naturally lessened that respect ;9 which his Lordship would otherwise he entitled' In consequence of this most imprudent conta c t' Government has acted with proper firmness and decision, and his Lordship has been dismiss ed from the Office of Lord Lieutenant and Cni" )° Rotulorum of the West Riding of Yorkshire. W 6 are far from being disposed to impute any plea, to the Noble Lord inconsistent with an taclatnent to the welfare of the State b u t he 1) 0 never been distinguished for intellectual poNer" and though we doubt not 'that h;s Lordship acte d • to the best of his judgment, yet th ese are tic times for men of ordinary capacities, and wha le minds may have received an untoward bia,=, be permitted to hold responsible situations, wb g° the very existence of the Constitution is si stake. The Morning Chronicle, of course, n t° tempts to raise a clamour against Ministers -o . r this act of :laudable firmness, and says„ what temper this (act) will be received by 114 great body of the People we pretend not to an ticipate," and therefore,. we wiff anticipate fe‘ the sagacious sceptic of The Chronicle. The gre, ° , Body of the People possess sense, and are 01 ' mated by loyalty, and they might justly * cell Government of reprehensible timidity,. if they not' acted as they have done on this occasio n ' This is not the first time that Earl FrrzWi v. LIAM has thwarted the operations of Governmen Ti when he was vested with a situation of great i le° portance to the-peace and security of the Stot t He was Viceroy of Ireland, but it was found e s ' pedient to recall him from that important offic es But " the great Body of the People 7 know 5 . 11 little of Earl FITZWILLIAM, that they Will "° means sympathize with The Morning Chronicle, (1( any other Radical Journal, that will vindicate tit conduct which tends to encourage the domesticeo r [flies of the State.who are attempting to overwhe l° , Our Religion and our Laws in all the horrors es a Reirolution.—Vire turn. with preasure from tbo disgusting subject to the Address from-the Cot olCumberland, which does linnOUr to that 'Co° e ty, bur which, of course, is condemned by 111 Morning Chronicle. This loyal, spirited, and :1 11 .; dicious Address, The Chronicle says, was, ; ` ,14 , all the other Loyal Addresses, hatched in e; vacy and concealment." If so, how did I 'come into the possession of The Morni e l: - Chronicle, in which' it appears this day ? D ec o The Chronicle keep spies to watch the operati on of the friends of the country, that it may efid e"' ,vour..to:frustrate their measures far its pro te c d el ° I •tion-?- But the LowTnert - Fathily are accuse having fabricated this Address, and of having i s it sent in fetters from Lowther Castle. If se ' we rejoice that the LOWTHER Family has ac t ta so differently from the FITZWILLIAMS: Belt the LOWTHER Family is justly esteemed in the - C°" l/' ty of Cumberland,.and is not likely to adopt q tai rmeasure in which all the respectable chaFi eter° of that County would not cordially co-oPc" 1 :; 1 We have inserted the; Address in question , °II are persuaded, that " the great Body of . the e e : ple".will join with us in considering it as a eij nifestation of good sense and loyalty, vihi° ought to be, followed in every part of the .Kingdom. Though we have no doubt of the truth of t he statement, respecting the removal of Lord • h e .WILLIAM, from the Lord Lieutenancy, a nd . t reported measure of calling forth an effective Yet' vie tary force; for the protection of the Realm , 0 have reason ttn believe that the information • f not given to the Public by the authority 0 e vernment ; and as to Military Force, we belte d, Je that no augmentation of the Army is tot e but that it shall be placed in a more effecti ve s for the protection of the Country. give ° A verdict of Justifiable Homicide has be en - W ho ` ea 4111 at the Coroner's Inquest on the man shot at North Shields, on Thursday, the 1 4,0 p r dict instant ; .end on the same night the v-- "iv c given, the houses of three of the Juror s vtre . ' tacked and fired into ! ! ! M 3 4 ( 1 , li ce, Willi 'ent tern , l lienn the P r;)p "re p Ind 891 H . 1 t3 CI;() im en Ca ds the Ila n; foli c kuci k% tr I t: { this 'tea itoa hop to -11 tni 1 Peri 80 Jars Alael ttio 144 Lie, P AL vilb fil e flu Ro Ct ../i, 11.1 I) i -1:;! 1), 1 f - \ his brother Radicals, to meet a►id rob hisrMas ter's house, directing them not only to bring in struments fit for =house-breaking, but also wea pons to murder the servant girls, and engaging to bring them into the 'house by rt,haelt-door, agree able to the process - proposed in another House for the Staffordshire Baronet. • Here, then, this requisition was illegal ; and being known, fully justified the peace-otiicers in taking previous possession of the ground, and lay ing hold of these nocturnal patriots before they had proceeded to, violcnce. But let us suppose that Coachy, like Mr. Hunt and the other Radicals, had withdrawn his first requisition as iilel sI, and had issued a secon4, inviting his niends to sup with him at his master's house, after the usual hour of rest, desiring thew pres'erve order silence, but to bring whatever night be useful with them, such as ehissels, saws, hammers, pick locks, and a butcher's kitiw, lest the girls should be disturbed ! Let us even suppose that on trial he shall produce one of the gang to swear that such was the rcguisition under which his friend,s were assembled in the yard • and hay-loft, would you, JOHNNY, as a Juror, consider the requisition as a proof of the legality of the meeting ? If you would not, what say you to the Man chester business That's all, JOHNNY. Yours, IGNOTUS. P. S. If a highwayman is to be considered as . acting peaceably until he has actually taken the money out of your pocket, then the Manchester Meeting was peaceable. So far the iVhigs would be in the right , and they might even say that they ore not endeavouring to , t , irii Ministers out, 1111(1 to turn themselves in, l►ec,►itse they have not yet accomplished that job. Bur it their innocence of the cha6;e depeudS nl►on the non•fulhltoeut of 111eir object that object being nominwlly and their proceedings not :woolly tiotous, why then, JONNsy, I fancy the Poor Innocents have very little chance of being either put or taken up on triall What say you, Johnny f ) • THEAT It C A REGISTEIL Performed 1,44 Nieht. • , THEATRE. Rom., DitußY-LAxE.---The Fisherman's Hitt : Principal Characters by Mr. Mundell and Mrs. V. West, After which, Amoroso; to which was added, The Mayor of Garratt. THEATRE ItnYAL, Coyf',:rr-GanniEN.—ltob Macgregor Itoo Roy Macgregor Campbell, Mr.Macrbidv; Diana Ver non, Miss M. Tyre. After which, Ways and Means. TO CORnEspoNnENTs. 'Fite FotritTruDlALootn: on ItErogm, on Monday. 4 %.** For LITERARY REVIEW, see the Eirst.Page. 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