The Sun. — London, England, 1819-06-08 00:00:00

tlrit as tut:." 111 , act i v e 01 . fi hop' rouse the :he other should be made merit, or my suc h e war in ali4 d, which 100,0001. ealed of last Ile° e light ierinosl,' int euclea 1011 W3S )e mos t a Clot"' desiring 3 1 '1 lea d mldefl lo lulutiOO S urnitte e ' rely de . purpos e ,0! to th f 'ration IC iligb; he g nu ' v taXee lad te e ' re of Of lecessof/ v) coin ougbc of OA w as\ this, that, the , Sinking• Fund was to be kept 13 11 such a footing, that at all times it would be capable of redeeming any debt then existing in the space 0145 years. how fctithfully this'.Wasted ' ut*.now, would appear that thefund, with the. ad, dition of the revenueJo be newly created, would Slot extend beyond five millions, white the debt - Was about eight hundred. Besides, let the House refieetthat this'wai the 'filth yeat.of peace, and the duration for'which peace could reasonably be calculatt:cl, and infer what was to be expected ;tom starting at such a time with a Sinking Fund five' millions. If any man had ever ridiculed tful laughed at the H'suse and the, country, in seriously asserting that such a Sinking Fund afforded a rational prospect of liquidating the 'National Debt, and at the same time .reliev- AIN' the burdens of the country; because lie new himself holdirs;;• wit such hope's, was a pal. „Pable delusion. The Chmieellor of the Exchequer ertainly might say, " I cannot make it more—, can- get no more ;" but that did not make it., •less trite that the pledge to the creditor had been li "latO. When he said that, however, he did not tnean to argue that the Acts relative to the-fund, "should now be strictly-And literally observed.— . Tbe.) , bad indeed been already infringed upon to .an ample extent, both by the Right Honourable Gentleman and Lord Siihnoutb. He did not lean 'to say,-that in the present distressed state of the country, and during the dAculties which _all Classes, of the community had to struggle against, this fund should'be scrupulously reserved tor its proper destination. Parliament bad a paramount. duty to perform, in protecting their 'over -burdened convituents•from newburdens and - Presstires ; and he was . ready to acknowledge, t hat, in our present situation, a considerable part of the Sinking Fund should be given up to meet the exigencies of the country. 'But wls it not a• Sh ame to hear such a proposition, the necessity/ of which, he should always believe, sprang from the improvident eXperiditnre and ilea Hong career 0 f the present Ministry, accompanied' with the s ame empty boasts, the, satVe proud: vauntings, Ivhich the House had constantly heard. but never . 3 een realised 3 The House might well say. when .the Chancellor of the Exchequer required new ~ axes, What have you llone with the hundreds 61 millions you got already ?" But that was a iti lcumstance die Hight Hots. Gentleman-kept out of view. There was no ack .owledgment of past errors-no confession that the resources of the country bad been lavishly and 'foolishly applied '7o° , a single expression of contrition, t No—a repetition of • the same vaintirothiks and asstir 111,ees witli , :telfich they had been, so frequently it tionstil and deceiveti already, " indemnity for the Past and security for the future , " and be 'itt not kobw - what besides. —" Only give 11 ' , " said -he-, ":three millions' of Taxes, 4 ' 14 you will find iourselves in the' most int t°vittg circumstances, and the greatest pros ritY for many years to come.'" He said ii "lsivts hall no right to expose the stock.:hoideis lto th e jealousy eon obloquy of the rest of the Il d'ion for the Paltry security the new taxes 1; 0 1 tIld confer oft them . he said that the rather, b ecause lie knew that much tt as said about the 4 "vantages the stock holder would derive front t he meditated altera ion in the currency, as the v4 bre of the circulatiog medium would be vatted, While they continued to ter:Otte the saint- oominal "'"tint of litter cat, forget' iug how much that class of the conitiontity had sutieted by the contrary ° teration during the war. In order to Iltinrd the 'louse time tor consideration, before they assented t 4 the, Resolution, stating the necessi t y of a 8E11,7 p s , k q us of iocOme over expenoit tire ot five millions, be I hould move the previous (rest* as an amend , - t e ", both to that and the tollowing Resolution. Zatit that led hiM to the must importaiir of all : the f l esolutions-1 he proposition for increasing the • A -I 'd of the country, by the imposition of A -d ts to the amount of 3,000,0001. per annum, rs k inst that he felt himself bouud to ►<lige his voice, a r he cook not conceive any country io a state /I ''hiell would not justify the imposition of new far bti man scented to have taken the intended re ,,":4atioo of a metallic circulation as one g ro und ;` this Resolution but it that circumstance was i ? be introduced into the argument, it Seemed to v ir n (Mr. Tierney) to be lather a reason against : l e Resol u tion, because, as the value our'cur ;:ney wa s to un d e r g o an alto atiou, no one knew h at Ihree millions was. '1 he very alteration of u eircelating medium was a new tax, inasmuch its '` disqualified people, to a certain extent, front ;r a Y il 'g the old taxes. The nominal amouut of ' l. nler taxes was the same, whilst the payer found ts nothioal iitcome diminished in consequence of hilginented %nine of money. He was thus el. her to the alternative of avoiding the • rYthent of his taxes, or denying liiirsaself the corn te"ls and elijoynteuts to which be had been netts bl)lll,ea• sßut the strongest objection to it would "' Li nd in lo''kttig'at the other circumstances of e ""ntry. The evidence given before the Aapce Committerts proved that there .was the lire 'test 'Stagnation io trade ever' known, and t,) tti " t rli: but distress in all the manufactures.— liie ta ble was loaded with Petitions from all Aairt s of the country, complaining that the Pe tl"ers were Unable to pay their taxes, in AiS ' Charge their •pour-rates—stating the difficulties ethe agriculturists, the wretched and starving _itti--7tlndei ( t i i i ‘ a n t i d o y f the maoufaCturers and artisans—and after Ministers answered to these re that they were to be subjected to. 111"_ree millions of new Taxes. Could any thing ft :v e a more galliog effect on the Country, or at -4i :A a more dangerous handle to the disaffected, it suchexistrd ? The Petitioners complained wc ht th e y cou ld •not pay the i r Taxes-that they c not able to live. The flight Hon. Gentle , rePltedr , 'have found, a remedy (for a re ,_r ry h e had called i t ) f or al l your distresses,,and ''',.:entedy is the i m p os i t i on ' o f new. T ax es.— o u ,.'_,"gitter.)----I h ave takeu Off eighteen millions it since the termination of the war-1 find I ijotioos to the Country, and therefore return jete of them to bring back our former prove 1111_4, (Laughter.)—Sueb a declaration en s:end the su tleritrgs of the people. He allotved zit right to endeavour to reduce the finances of Country to a more ste a dy arran g em e n t ; but it • att empted in a manner calculated to strike dis may and terror to the heart of evert trader and Ma nufacturer in, the land—particularly, after they , had read the Noble Ltird's (Castlereagh's) Ron tisfang - description of the circumstances and re- , sources of the country.. -.He conscientiously said, he would rather have a sinking fund of only.two Millions than one of five on such terms. — There were bot two ways of enlargilig that fund -,-either by reform and retrenchment, or by the imposition of new taxes--he put that in the front of the battle which the Right HonOtuable Gen tleman had placed last. None; from what he • lrad seen—from conversation with others =— from the investigations and inquiries he had carried on at a former pet iod of his life, when the state of his health permitted it better than it, did now— it was his serious belief that a saving` in the present expenditure might be effected Of one mil lion. The Right Hon. Gentleman might smile ; but it was remarkable that it was that night he had, for the first. time, discovered a saving was practicable'in the collection 'of the revenue. It was not to be forgotten that the Noble Lord (Castlereagh); in moving for the re-appointment of the Finance Committee in the present Session, had itrtimated that that was the last year it was to sit; Many subjects, however, deserting its most serious consideration still remained unexamined.. The Right Hon. Gentleman 'their commented' on the conduct of the COMinittee, which he de• scribed'-as merely the organ of Ministers; 'He animadverted on ,the, resistance., given by Minis ters to almost every proposition for retrench ment coining his - iide Of the House. 'He thungist the whole :limy was toolarge, but al; loivcd that reductions enough had' been made in the Navy. He insisted that in the Colonies great expences might be saved , in the collection of the revenue and' the consolidation - of Office's. No Ad- • ministration should : he suffered-to. remain in office ,which would, tree sine penny from the people more than they repaid in real solid services. He took the measure in question to be one of the strongest ever proposed ; and he told the 'House, that if they assented tO it, they parted with every security for economy. He dial not wean to cen sure those who recommended the intended appli cation of 13 millions of the Sinking Faad, but he would rather abolish it altogether than augment it by hying on new Taxes. He thought the late war might have beets carried on by 14n ecouomi, cal House of Commons and Ministry at halt the expence incurred by it. Tuinking that savings to the extent of a million veiling inis., , ht be made` in the public expenditure, he could not contribute towards a measure which would . offeod the \ whole country; he could n o t agree to laying on new Taxes,at the present moment, and should there fore move the previous question to the two last Resolutions. Lord CAsTuttogAGN thought it was not neces sary for . hitn to trouble the House atiengtit -; for though the subject was one of great importance, and in sorne•of its details of great difficulty, vet the question of 'hat night lay .vit bin a very Dar io* compass. The Hose had to consider; first, whetlivr, under all tue circumstances of theCoun. try, they were not called .upon to make some effort to place the finances of the Conntry in a state of adequate pi osperity ;- secondly, what was the extent of the effort.to be made; and thirdly, whether this was the moment at which that which might be necessary ought to be_attemPted. But, before tie app:ied himself directly to the question, be hoped the House would allow him to offer some remarks on the preliminary objections of the Right Hon. Gentleman, which he had thought proper to plead in bar to the present plan= The Right Honourable' Gentleman had said he had no confidence in the present Minis ters. But he did not state,that the Taxes pro posed were . not necessary. He did not say but a time Might come when these, 'Or taxes'to a greater amount, might be properly imposed; but so long as the country shoulfi 4v; cursed tiie present Administration, he would not grant them. He could not have confidence iti their ap plication of them; and therefore, if hisjudginent wire to influence the. House, they would carry op an Address to the throne to dismiss. theta, and Choose a more efficient Ministry. The Right Hon. Gentleman had made some 'observations on the decision come to on a former night. It was not unna(ural that be should think the vote 'Thiel) had been come to favour of Ministers disgrace ful to the House, and he could assure those ki ho voted against,the Right Honourable Gentleman on that occasion, that they would never purge themselves in his - eyes from that disgrace till they . read their' recantation. Till they did 'that they would. all be very low in his estima tion ; and if ,their names were not inserted in his perpetual register, they would be at least inserted in his black book.—(A laugh.) , --But the Right Hon. Gentleman said, that hail his• Motion been carried, they might .have been far advanced in those inquiries on which they were .only now about to enter. NoW, with every disposition' to do justiee to the readiness of the Right 'Hen. Gentleman to accept of office, notwithstanding the inconveniences attached to it, he doubted much f had that motion been carried, if the new Admmistrationiwould have so far completed their arrabgements as.to be ready io enter upon buhi ne.ss. by. this time. But the argument of the Right Hon. Gentleman was this, that the_ first step the House ought to take was to call for a new Admittistiation. This forming no part Of the Resolutions under consideration, he : could not vote fore them. He (Lord Castlereagh) must be candid enough to tell him that he had never hoped for his vote, , but he hoped they should still 'possess - the confidence of ttie House. The Right Hon. Gentleman had accused Minis; tgrs of being unfriendly to economy; but this he had merely charged against them to bring in his objections to the Lords'of the 'Adinir.alty and the third Secretary of 'State, in'order to raise an odium against them in the country. .Ministers, however, had greatly reduced the public burdens, and had brought the army, navy, and ordnance estimates so low in the present year, that the Right - Hon. Gentleman had, been able to urge no very strong objections against them, and had only brought forward his ancient nostrum for the relief of the cOuntryhis recoMmendation'that the two Lords of the. Admiralty and the third Secretary of State should be reduced. Now if the army kept up were too large, why did not the Right Hon. Gen denials s Oppose tlt amOnnt nr. Its rinfahers At the proper time ? He must protest against the coarse taken by the Right lTher: - Gentletnan eufferiee" , the Estimates to pass, anti then: on patiCadet trhet ion 'assumin g that Ministers deserved ecensere for their amount. The question now for the House to consider was; .. evhether 'e s r not they were in posSession of sufficient-information to de cide on the resolutions before them.: The Right HolL (al - e - thleniali said, he (Lord - Castiereagh) 'had stated this to.he 'the FaSt • Session In which the • • Committee of Finance would sir, and he therefore concluded that all anxiety OH' the sailect lit eco- nomy most be at an end. This weVeitedirecteop position to his former arguments, when he taunt • ed Ministers that thee were the Government of 'Committees, nod reproached them - because they coultt do nothieg - wit hout ti-Committee. He had hoped that in the coerse of the present Session the Committee or Finance would tneke such progress itt their inquiries that - ell e the. Elenterits of fieance ewould he .50 Jar biought nuke the obseevatiou of the House; that they would be enabled to see whether - or not Ministers went as far as they ought - to go in the cause of economy.. , When lie seid t this, .be had. Rec..: suaded himself that the •Committee Wo u ld have been able to go through the subject of the B one : ties anti DrawbaCki;. • The Sittings of rite - Bank Committee had preventerthis (rain being gone through with, but he had never supposed . that there were to be oce future inviries on the sub ject of economy, and he trusted that the House would feel an additional pledge litiA been given' by Ministers of their anxiety to introduce eenao- : tided reforms, by:theirchat ging theinselves •the" htieging the DraWbecks and The Collectioni , of the Revenue tinder 'the consideration of the ! House itt another Sestion. some- of the Right: HOnoerable Gentlemen's. remarks lie . hed_a_ri4ht to complein ;'• and the more so, as h i e understood the topics on which lie bed toutchM Vtlto well to give a false impression - tii the public, if he 'bird not thought proper to throw more of -.matinge-e• meat in his speech than in his opinion becente a person of his character. Halt of his speech had been delivered' to • alarth 'the Stockholders 'arid the Public- on 'the :subject Of -the Fund, but his arguments„ were.; unfounded itt fact,' and the present s motion, Which was now opposed was, in feCt, the very measure which had been brought forward' a few weeks back by an Honourable, Membe'r . on the opposite side of the Flouie,'who had not pressed it to a division.,, ken detstanding that such a proposDioe was slior'ly to come from Ministers. Yet.-this -was theOieastire with respect ttt which the,Right. Hon e qentleman would now alarm the country, by persuading them that it involved a violation of faith with the nubile creditor. - He was sure not hing‘would be pritposed by the Chancellor, of the lixchetper that was in opposition to the spirit of the Sinking Fund Act, but he maintained that the Sinking Film!, if soff:ted too rapidly to accumulate, tar front provinghene ficial toehe public creditor, might, by its operatiote, be most •injerious to him and to r t he country, by.tlte effect it would have on the value of property. A time might come When it would he the duty of Parliament to interfere on account of•its rapid accumulation, but he, denied that it was int ended now . eo depart from the spirit of the Sinking Fund Act, arid protested against the argnments posed to this assertion as unfairly urged. It was now for the House menfully to look at the finances of the country e and determine whether, while we were at peace, -they ought to be put' in such a state us to be prepared tor' a new war, if such a calamity should again) befell the nation. in deciding on this q festion, he called on the House to consi e der the Government only es far as'they might be rendered the means of rendering servide . 10 the country. If they could, not be _trusted.; the Hotese, owed it to themselves, and 'to the great community ,ith whose representation they were charged,' to 'carry up an 'Address' to the Throne, praying for their removal. The present Ministers would feel that they disgraced' themselves by re e raining their situations, if the HauSe should re feseto give them 'the means of carrying on the hasiness of the country in the- way . most tor its advantage. He therefore conjured them to put . Ministers wholly out of their consideration, but as they might- he useful in the country ;•' girt Ire fairly told them they .must now decide be tween removing them, and giving thenieithel, means of doing•their duty. Ile defended the state meats he had . Made at the commencement` of the Session on :the 'subject of the increasing prosperity of the country. .That important re trenchments might be made be• would riot:deny, hilt supposing that the sum .of one million might -be saved, as the Right flonnerable Gentleman, had assumed, though he' had'nut taken the It onbre to say hove this could be done; still would he con rend that the case of the Chancellor of the Ex. , Chequer was good and entire. He would maintain that in time of peace the country ought to have a Sinking Fund 'of - 2,000,0001. Feeling this; be did not support the proposition of his Right Hon. Friend for the sake of the stockholder, but for the sake of the country. This could net he prepared for a future war, if a progressive auction of the debt did not take place in time or peace. It was, therefore, necessary that we shoidd have a Sinking Fond, rising froth 5 to 8,000',0001. ; ,and if the saving mentioned by the Right Hon Gentleman could be made, it . was so much. the better. The state of the Consolidated Fund at pre'serit . , ditTerent frorn what it had Veen at any . former period of our history, matte it •nikeesarYe as - there was no surplus, to reinforce it with new taxes. Good'faith seethe public Creditor :impe riously demanded such a measure.fromehat House. The Chancellor of the.. Exchequer purposed not to touch the Sinking Fund from this time till it should eieeed 8',000,0001. Forhis'part, he should feel that the country was in a proud situation when it became possessed of a clear Sinking Fula! .of 8,000;000/. - Other countries would feel that it stood in a cemmanding.attituele e for, they knew, that if any thing WeredOire'thati touched the filo tiiiutof a high-minded periPle 'like this, by a recur rence to .the , Property -Tax, one• vote of that House. would place .at the command of the Government ‘ fire Annual Revenue of above 15,000,0001.• • They h a d had the •prool Of This When. Buonaparte eiretnrued, • Francee; for then, in less time than 'had been occupied by 4 the present debate, that House had, given to Nfitlister s Olt - great slrielcl which carried A ern throu g h the %var.-014w ) hear, hear !)--- VpOn the whole he slimed that the tutor pro. rspects of'th" country were tar from ,41orrtuy, .010 contended that Ministers woulci Have deserted their duty, had they not now-tonne forwhrd , to propose new tax es. The Right Hon Gehtlemaa had seemed to tl:ink ;axes might tie properly posed by or her Ministers. Nay his argument Al. twist wetytoshoWthat the 'Chancellor of the Ex .ehequer,onght to. be' tkirned Qui flf hi= place. for not .rdising !en — tniritios .by taxes, instead of 3,000,00 W. 'He thought 'the House would feel wilt/ him, that his - Right Hn,-oural le Friend had taken the proper nit thane ; and - bough on n for mer night the iiittobers It n siirpas,ied his hopes, he, on this oec.ision expected not less marked favour of Mittisteriolvan 11,,d, been wit - tteSSed when the question'%ya ,. , hether ;1107 in• their opponents best deserved : : 11.0, ....orififitlice of t becooot r,y - ,-- . -(totol cheer lug ) - Mr. BROUGHAM contended the speet-iiothis'Riglit •I -lon. Priend had been ';iniSrepresented in several in-tances by the Noble Lord. On these put its he place fled to 'offer expl'atia. lions in vindication:of the consstency of-the Right Honoura bk.Gentleman (Mr. Tierney). • He inaintain.'n that iii 'mint of ffict• good faith'was not kept With the Stockholder by the 'Resolutions now iiimagliflor,fira ;. hut he' ditt•ttot wish Me pliblic creditor to tiiiiik he had a right to -complaiii, as the course 'porsucti With respect to the Soiki•ig 'Fund was Dices sary to the well-beingolthe touotry, and could not be helped. He could not iniagine - anycase, save an insult on -our natiorial • honour and the cooseq moo 'pressure of war, hat could jisst ify the imposition of fresh burtliens on tlie''peirple. If it were proved that the fintincialoperations latelvcomnieneed rrquirtol thein, lie would agree With the Right Ifon.•G•entleman oppo •sitedhat the country ought not to` be distUrbeit by a clamonr against all taxes: hot•the pm nt to be preyed was, that such a 'neeessity existed. and that the mesent moment was the tiesti4fl 'at which fresh taxes•couttl'be created. 'He- should not enter into an-7 details On the distresses of the country, they-were ad- Inifti•fi to I beirfollest extent bv the Committee i i their Report, and by the Hon.Cliairfiran r:Peel) in his speech to the House. But was t here nothi , .,'g in the measure adopted to restilllV leash payments,' wi t ch reoffered 'the prospect :of n-, w imposts still more a - hi:Mo. ? Weolif 'not t hat" hpi.ration Itself act as a se vere tax trpoii the eii4ntey? As all conituddities had for many ; years increased,- in'ter.4l 90 per cent. above t old-price of geild, and the expetise , obliving at least tOO'pereeot.,wonlii. it mot he rash to expect;:that- ore the feCitneptioti of cask pay ! - metits,;t hew price loft stiffer from tire contrary extreme fail - below tfivii-tt ill value ?- Would ill Ute n,ft, be a gene— ! gal redaction in add welt as in the prices the"' anioffift-of 5 per Cent. at tik 'minimum, and • o'tibablS• fit i 4 ii•per c lt. ? The - t . ol,sequenee w told be, that all incomes woald he dimioislied , ime tenth and i scattered less nye to that amount to ',fry atty taxes. Yet this' was the infie;efit' selected for laving on fresh . imposts I Had the ' eh:met-nor of tTre Exch Jotter 'o nil his • friend's felt that' intereSt the introit., to Which they laid claim 'iii the • pr-perty tax had been set tgently• tatem out of their li.Tfilits a tax fur which they were consfn ly lair ern:moos); they would have, *Sfitiglit'and found t he - Means of remits-log, instead of creating the-pnlilie burdens; 'ainl.l4 rigorous- economy and Sinspariag ,retreochniellt tvuulit hair relieved the Oation ttorn. th e pres sure of the measiires . whieli they had heet t ettnineiled ro adopt. Ail the taxes whfCti they nowproptised inert i n te,ees taxes;aild not atrtaioreDi dailies. latter ivould tio C ourse • • of the tirorreciation,'ind while the an'aps .if paying were di ten per cent, woold - experience siinitar reduction, Which - wank] lighten its - pressure. lint a ineney tax did not follow the same course, mot enforced the payment of so many -whefner the ineaos were ridueed or not. Ainnler objection muse from the. state of our Currency. It Was not set tled yet : moneyhafflitit)e' as's - timed its final pesitiati. A , (mod might be'lB or 22 shillalgs,aad•till it had become fixed and de t erinined, tit talk of layiint,millidns. of taxes, was alio a tilottr' in (he dark, which 'mitt it tall MST* or there, sio one could tell where. There*Wits'no tithe liter:biro:he conceived, wHeft it .. would be iiiitre tudie.lt s frdatifife - iiiefinsis.teat with the eirCUM. stances of the country tli iiiiiieisr new taxes' than the pi:est - fit. The Noble Lord had liaitt;l of the reductions whiefibad keen ' effected. But they were • Only shoe which could not he pre- , tented in time of peace, when it would kite been impossible for his . .slifjesty's'tditiiiiers to keep up the sante'este,iftud esta blishments as in War. •Cettain expenses had, •in tact, ceased in spite of them . 'l'hy Ntible Lord' aiso complained,' that his Right Hon. Friend .(111r . .-Tieritey) hird•tallted of • retrench meats to tint amount of orre.million,•witlrout • pointing out • ' the branches in- which they lois:4ll.hr effected. In a.discus shin like toe present his.ROit had. not thought proper to enter into details... But he - would • the Noble Lord, where some -of those saviors could 'be Made.. One - might be,in,the collection of the revenue. ..Was it true'or not, that the Board of .Lxeise had inade_atioffer to Government to collect the revenues of the Customs at the same low rate at which they collected that under their .able mirnifustration, for , it was impossible to.' speak 'too highly of the of that dzpartint-nt ? • Bail they nut pi oposcit to co:Let the revenue of the Customs. at the- rate -of five and a'tractioli.Per cent., instead of .13 and -a fraction.per cent. which it now costs, and which ,was one per ce b it more than last. year? If this offer .werc adopted, a siis in.; of 500,0001. a year might at once be affected; and if this could be .one depart- .. 'went, was lie not justified in thinking that it might-also 'be. attained in others, if the Administration ill,' not- dutch 'from their duty ? Another c'onsioerabte sat hig• might be procured by the reduction of the poundage which formed the payment of a class of. officers. One bundled and twenty. thousand pontiffs asyear were tints paid to ihe Re 7 sliver of the Land Tax and Assessed 'fakes and the Distribu -tors ofiStainps.- But some who received from 7001. to 5;0001. nlear, would be very happy to at, ept eniter . three. hundred' or one,thonsand pounds a year, rat, t Ito-1(1 , 6e the whole of their income. He did'lnot wisir to alii-lish those places, but that a better,. bat - gent should be unto, her the pubic. He also trusted, that prices cans (10,0 to wttat they were be tore their advance had rendered ail merease of salaries neces- • , sary, thole salafies would he reduced to their foroter He did not expect this,„ however, notn his Majesty's Go ern. • • mcnt. knew they neither wished, ot,r dared to attempt it. They vapour about their majority of 357. '1 bey might tell.theGentleuteit.Who passed a ride of euntitie,nee their favour, that they were bound to so eport them through- •out this inionititsMcAire , . They might talk of this' asthey pleased, but theY , Were-not in. a cimdition to face their own clerks, becauiet bey neither enjoyed the coofidence, of the coinitry,' fiat: thelove of the peopre. Butict net' the' Noble' Lord imagine tiolt this occasohtll - Majority-would accoMpany hini.on every measure.. at had supported him on it• purposely - put in.a way to give tint the greatest advainaze— and on winch liturgy Members, frnm early prejudiCes, had roted, to prevent a eltange of Administiation. '• But the Noble Lord would msiy deceive if he thought • he could' command the same majority when the interests of the country- were-alone concerned. He bad artfully • attempted to persuade those Gentlemen, Ihat unless...they . supported his Majesty's Ministers, as they were now bound to do, their former vote in their favour wash meternockert. Diet he pi r. B.) would-ask tirent wthether the peopie.eonisi now. pay more taxes ?Whether.their cons;ituents were in a condi-. tion that would retitii, - fruiti b tart hen 3 short of injustice and cruelty I 'Or-whether the itireunistances of e. the coontryi did nut turbid instead of encouragiog the at tempt. What sae! the Noble 'Lord himself been able to - in his behalf, ex . cept the grhttlitiius assertion, sup.ported by. - no argulifent.whatever,•that it was necessouv‘rii have a *itilts ing Fond of live and to wr ing it. fr o th the Petiole. the Noble: Lord rceolfeet what the Sinking Pridewis when established by Mr. Pitt ? It was osie million for ii, de of 2!10 millions. If the same proportion were kept to the•pt . sent debt, five million;; : winild not be wanted, but 3,0%0001. • II the expenditure was reduced one million, as he had shown the practicability, .tyo millions and, a half would wanted. And let Ahern be applied not to Make a millions display of figth'es, but to reduce the litirdeus of the people. Mr. fIII.SE,ISSON coptyhded, that -a great pruportion of the liight Hon.Gentlemau's Nteech (Mr. Tierney') hail been taken, tip With lantentations'eespertiog - tire diminution of tire Sinking Fund, whilst the other expressed opinions of .a more isiconsistent. nature . . His Noble Friend had been tuiaundvr stood. He had"not told the Gentlemen who bait snoported him on a fOriner occasion, thst they , were bound to'yote for him fin thu present, only so far as the necessity of the case was-made 'd'ut. ; And he IMri Huskissonj' had a lowed that nothing but necessity could justify the imposition of fresh taxes. lie was upon t flat issue atom. (list he expeciell every - Gentleman this night would, give his vote upon the goes tint: The Right Honourable Gentleman opposite - . had stated on a former occasion • that other countries were at tempting to restore their Finatices. This was undoubt edly true the part of lltissia, and Aiistria; Fiance lierseif, after ell the sacrifices which she had seen called.up.on'te.make, arid the restitution of her plunder, had slideeded 'in putting her -finance on a - footing of strength add ' efficiency. Her last Budget proved that her revoi•..e was iiot , only equal to her expenditure, lout had enabled her to forgo a • :"