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state of the various Prisons throughout the 'kingdom had been moved for in another place. — It was now intended that the same Papers should laid before this House. His Noble Friend in tended then to move that a Committee be appoint ed to inquire into the state and discipline of the larions Prisons. The other notice referred to a Commission which had been alluded to in the de bate of last night (the Commissioners to inquire into Abuses in Charities). When the fost Report of that Commission was presented, it was the in tcntion of t is Noble Friend to move for leave to bring in a Bill granting certain extensions to the powertkand objects of that Comtnissioo. fir itoNALn FERGUsov, will) reference to the last notice, wished to know whether it ‘vas in tcnrled thot the sole object of the new Bill shoold he to extend the powers of the Commis sioners? Mr. CANNING replied, that the object of the 13111 would he to extend the powers—to what pre cise de , ree he could not state. BANK REsmicTios—FUNDED DEBT. Mr. HART Davis ruse for the purpose of potting ►ines!ion to flit! Right Hon. the Chancellor of the Excitetrier. He had had lately transmitted to bin, terrain Resolutions of the Bankers and ;Merchants of Blistol, expressing great apprehensions Ora: the continuance of the Bank Rts Etc .- lion Act would produce serious inconvenience. He ti►rrr tr)re took this tl►e earliest opportunity of retplesting to know the in'en•ions of the Right Hon. Gentleman`on this must itnportant subject ? There w►►s one other question which he wished to pot on another subject of peat importance. Y , e Right Hon. Gentleman in the last Session stated, that he had at that time funded a large (plantiry of I;xehequer B Its to prevent the necessity of a Loan ; and the!, also stated, that he did not think it probable that there was any probability Of resorting to a Loan, or fur►her funding in this ye• , r. He begged to he informed what wr re now the intentions of the Right Hon. Gentleman ? The CHANcitt.imit of the EXCHFQIIER.—To tl►e first q testion he had no difficulty in distinctly sw ine, his intentions. He had intended, on an early day in the next week, to have brought the ques tion of continuing the Bank Restriction. Act Wi der the consideration of the House ; hut in-con sequence of the no:ice given by a Right Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Tierney), of a 11101i011 on rite 4th of February, connected with that sub ject, he would nowt postpone his own motion till the other was discussed. As to the second ques tion of . the• Hon. Gentleman, he was sore tl►e House would feel how extremely improper it worthi be for him to give any answer •-, it, which could preclude him from taking any course which he might think most advisable to meet tl►e sup plies of the year.—(Hear, hear, hear !)—At the same time he must say, that he did not now, any more than in the last Session, foresee that it would he necessary to raise any sttttz in this year. Butt the propriety or discretion of any measure which I.►e might deem necessary must of course be left open.—(Hear,lfear,hear, !) POOR L. Mr. CURwEN observed, that whatever other in dications there might be of national prosperity, it was an a/arming Biel that druirig the last year the ['tun' Rates tad Cont i n tied to increase. He wished to know whether Ministers intended it) submit to the House any measure for the remedy of this evil? The CHANCELLOft of the EXCHEQUER admitted the t'xtreme importance of the subject, and said be liad no doubt an early opportunity would be taken of calling ihe atteliii,,n of the House to it. THE CORN LAWS. Mr. CALCHAFT, alluding to the +Petition which bad been presented from the County of Rutland on the subject of the Corn Laws, said that he did not at the time see the President of the Board of Trade (Mr. Robinson) in his place, or he would have called his attention to the subject. Con sstently with the opinions which he himself en tertained when the Corn Bill was passed, he could not see Petitions of this kind without the utmost regret. Therefore in this earliest stage of such proceedings he wished to call the attention of Government to them, for the purpose of learning what opinion they had formed on the subject, and he sincerely hoped they would con cur with him in opinion that no further interfer ence on the subject was at present necessary. Mr. F. RoetstsoN apologized for not having entered on the subject when the Petition alluded to was presented. It was his intention to have done so, hat the question was pot before he had Art opportunity. He was therefore obliged! to the Hon. Gentleman for recurring to the subject, for he wished to take the earliest opportunity for the avowal of the sentiments of his Majesty's Go• veintnent. Ile had no hesitation in now stating that they were decidAly of opinion not only that no further measure was advisable, but that if any finch was introduced into the House as a substan tive question, they would give it a decided nega tive.—(Dear, hear, hear !)—Front the Bill which had been passed, he thought the Public had de 3ived considerable benefit. But it would be an act of imprudence, not to say of insanity, again to agitwe that question, which would inevitably set one part of the people against the other, and produce the most mischievous agitations. Mr. M. A. TAvLort said; the question was one which ought to be fairly met, for it was one of vital importimee. But petitions were now band ing round in various parts or the country, and there were such symptoms that the public quiet ought not to be hazarded for a moment, by al lowing any erroneous impression to go abroad. — lie had opposed the last bill, and if any further measure had been now proposed, lie would have given it his Most hUmble but most decided op position. Sir 11. PARNELL, from the share which he had taken in former discussions on this subject, in support of this Bill, was glad to take this oppor tunity of expressing his disapprobation of the at tempts which had been lately made to disturb the public mind on such a question. lie perfectly agreed with all that the Right lion. Gentleman (Mr. Robinson) Wad said. He could not see what had occurred to render it necessary to bring . the question before Parliament. The measure adopted had been beneficial every way; it had be nefited_the agricultural interest, without injuring Qty other cla-s of the community. Air. LONG WELLESLEY agreed that no farther MeftStitt wAS UceOaty, Ana (hat it wool,l be im politic to agitate the question again. The 'Bill which had already been pas s ed proved very bene ficial. Another MEMBER now rose, and Was Pro ceeding on the same subject, when Mr. SPEAKER submitted to the House whether a loose and vague discussion of this most imprt. ant subject,was not quite unnecessary on this nc• casion, as a distinct answer had been given to th, very important question which had been asked. — (Hear, hear, hear !) THE ADDRESS. _ . Mr. 13RowNLew brought up the Report of the Address, which was received, and ordered to be further considered on Monday. On the motion of Mr. H. Cove, an Address to the Crown was ordered, praying that the fifth Report of the Commissioners appoin!ed to in quire into the duties, salaries, and emoluments of the Officers of the Courts of Justice to icotland, and , the sth and 6th Report of the similar Com mission for lrd,..nd. be kid before the House. BANK FORGERIES. The CIIANCELLott of the EXCHEQUER presented the Ilupott of the Commissioners appointed to iticioite into the most eff,ettisl mode of !nevem thu Forgery of Batik Noes. The Report Was rtc..iveil, and Lodi-red to lie ol tie table. BANK RESTRICTION In answer to a queotion Rota Mr. Gientell, The CHANCELL ,, R of the EXCIIrIaUER stated, that it had been his intention in the motion, of whi c h he 1,,,d postponed the notice till after the debate on Mr. Tietney's motion, to propose the cunt;nnancc of the Bank Restriction only till thc Is; Match, 18'2,0.—Adjooroed to Monday. [Toe Ilonhe of Lords did not sit yestetday.] LONDON JOURNALS. FROM THE MORNIV; PAPERS OF THIS DAY. [Morning Post.) A Leeward Island Mail has arrived, bringing advices from St. Thomas's to the 2311 of Decent her. They confirm the former accounts of the arrival of Lot d Cochrane at Margaritta on the 1411 i of November, with four ships of war. Admiral Brion had joined him, arid their combined forces were about to proceed to make an attack on Cu- • I' ;race of a Letter . front St. Thomas's, dated Dec. 21. " Arrived here a few days ago, Captain Brown, of the schooner Eliza, of New York. This schooner was bound from Lima to Rio de la Hacha or St. Martha. Near the coast sh e was overhauled by a Royal Spanish privateer, commissioned by the Governor of Rio tie la Haeha, who wantonly fired into h'er after having taken in all sail. While the Captain was in his boat, going franc his schooner to the privateer, they were pouring lillivs_ of musketry at hint, and on 'boarding the Eliza, one of the Spaniards deliberately took aim at, and shot a Mr. Williams, part owner of the Eliza, through the . They then plundered the vessel, and carried her into Ri o d e la Hacha, where Capt. Brown made a protest, and got. •a pat tof the things stolen front him returned. His schooner was so torn to pieces, that he had to sell her. Communications have been sent to the President of the United States, giving de tails of this fool murder, which will, it is hoped here;not go un noticed. A fleet of small vessels sailed front here about iv fort night ag o , under the convoy of a Dutch hi ig of war ; amongst them the Dutch schooner Harmony. The day after, t hey felf in with two Independent privateers, which cut off and captured two Spanish vessels, blew up a Spanish armed brig, took pos session of - the Harmony, and sent het up to Margaritta. We are still ignorant of the fate of the rewainder of the convoy. She Dutch frigate Eurydice has sailed in quest of those and our Government will adopt all possible measures to claim the schooner, and to receive ample satisfaction for this violation of our flag." S - I:RAN6E REPORT. Bridge-Town, Barbadocs, Dee. B.—A report is said to have reached Dominica, by the way of Martinique, that St. Helena had been attacked, for the purpose of rescuing litionaparte from his captivity, and that the force thus employed had succeeded in its attempt. Now, although we do not consider this to be entitled to any belief, it may not be amiss to notice the rumour, corre sponding as it does with a projet of this kind that was supposed to be in the contemplation of some of the Ex-Emperor's family, aided by the exiled officers who had served tinder his command. At any rate, we can state with certainty, that Boone pat to was at St. Helena on the 17th of August, accounts of which had reached England in the month of October last.--(lbid.) ET he Times.] An amusing report has crept into the Barbadoes Papers, by the way, as it is said, of Martinique, viz. :—that St. Helena had been attacked. and Buonaparte rescued. We are not informed as to any particulars respecting the force by which this grand exploit was accomplished ; whence it had sailed, or how it was composed ; or whither it betook itself . afterwards. The _Martinique in telligence says nothing as to the mode of the at tack ; whether it was by sea or land, or both ; whether the garrison was beaten in the open field, or tha b ßritish Admiral was sunk or cap tured ; or I %hether the Buonapartists came in the night and caught Sir Hudson napping.— For all such interesting and valuable details we must wait with as much patience as the thing admits of, in the hope that some other Captain may, peradventure, arrive from Martinique.; or that a proclamation by the great Napoleon may appear in due form, dated " from our Palace at Longwood ;" and promising his faithful En glish, that the Imperial Eagles shall fly from island to island, until they roost upon the cross of St. Paul's. The Barbadoes Editor does, indeed, appear to be troubled with a twinge of incredulity on this subject ; inasmuch as the Ex-Emperor was snug in his birth on the 17th of August last, although a band-of worhies from the Champ d'Asyle had swore to liberate their patron. The silly rumour from Martiniqne, if it prove nothing, seems to countenance a belief, that some sort of project had been really in contemplation for the escape of Bnonaparte. That the conspirators should boast of already succeeding in an enter-, prize w!..ich they had not yet attempted, is natu ral to that consummate arrogance, through which, in order to gain a victory, their leader has more than once forgotten that it would be necessary to fight a battle. -- The Hecht bomb has been taken into dock at Deptford, for the purpose of being doubled and thoroughly fitted for the intended expedition to Baffin's Bay in the summer. Lieutenant Parry, who commanded the Alexander in the recent at tempt to find a passage to the Pacific, is appointed to the command ; _and the Officers who were un der his directions accompany him in this new en terptize.—(End ). roil Titi, ROMAN 'CATHOLIC-3. ED ItOR tis nqt because of the weight of Mr. DANIEL O'CONNELL'S liroiesSiollal replll a tion that I notice the late explosion which passes under his name; but lo refute those misrepre sentations and calumnies which have always too mud' influence, come they from what quarter they mry, on the Irish Roman Catholics. They find too, unfortunately, such ready vent and aid ,with the English Reformers, of every, any, and no religion, that t heir exposure becomcs of more va lue than its source could have originally promised. Passing over its poetical motto, and leaving it to be sting at any insintectional dinner, I come at once to the Address; with which, please God, I will fdi:ly grapple, until nothing remains but its mailer of fact. This Address sets out with calling the present state of the Irish Roman Catholics, " and alienage :" Arid it describes them as " en during degradation and injustice." '.heir " exclusion"—it tells them—" corni noes ;" that they have " no share in making the lan's 3 " nor in " granting or regulating the taxes ;" that " as far as the l'Avcs are concerned, heir lives and properties are at the disposal of others ;" th4t they have " no direct controu;" over the laws ; and " if this be not servitude," the Addresser will " be glad to know what is." Such is the grateful acknowledgment of a series of consecutive relaxations, giving to the list► Roman Catholic the full exercise of his religion, the full disposal of his property, and, finally, the electing franchise. • Mr. O'CoNiNtut. is a Lawyer ; of smind learn ing and extensive practice. His mind cannot be so trii/egirt, that it should have unwittingly erred ; atol therefore I am bound to believe that some Lawyer without law has assumed his name, and loaded him with this portentous .ignorance. lam hound also to believe that Mr. O'CoNNELL would not utter a deliberate error. lie ha , n,ade many speeches, and written perhaps some books on Ow Roman Catholic Question ; but we are not there fore to infer that he says or writes every thing that comes uppermost. • For no man, with the habits of a Lawyer, could assert, that the King's Subjects, possessing the elective franchise, have no share in making laws •or creaming taxes ; that they bold their Ives and properties at others' disposal ; or, that they live in a state of servitude. If such be the condition of Roman Catholics .tritit the elective franchise, what is time condition of the thousand Protestants without it 4---Mr. O'CostIELL needs nut to he told, that every voter shares in the enactment of every law, through the medium of the Represen tative whom he has sent into Parliament ; vet lie is made to level in the same " degradation" the voting and the non-voting Romanist, without stopping to inform us why so useless a franchise was sought in 1793, under the pretence of its being the last demand. That the Romanists are excluded from " all judicial situations," is most trne—ana true may it continue !—Strange indeed it were, to invest with authority over a Protestant fortune or a Pro— testant life, men, whose consciences are bound by a Power independent of, and contrary to, out law. That " the offices of Sheriff and Sub-Sherilf are influential on the lives" of the RonioniSts, we readily concede ;—overcome as w e are b y the evidence of the Irish State Trials and the Irish Rebellions. It forms, to be sure, no part of this Lawyer's " complaint," that the Routanists are obliged to pay our Protestant Clergy. Ile only mentions it , with an accommodating disclaimer, which may be kept in hand or slipped off at co nvenience.— Grant, however, their other demands, and we shall soon hear of that unreasonable persecution which obliges the Established Catholic Church to support a disestablished Non-Catholic Sect, Until Protestantism is ripe for subversion, this inciden tal grievance will lie by in the dridy of Reserve. But the little remnant or the Penal Laws is large enough to " fill a volume." The Judg ment Seat, the Legislature, and the Throne, do not yet belong to the Romauists ; the privation, therefore, " perpetuates discord and hatred " Undoubtedly it does. That no thorough-paced Papist can be content until they are all occupied, by his Religion, is well proved.by the " bitter enmities" of 1798 and ISO 3. Does this Lawyer venture to compare " the Protestant in Spain" with " the Catholic in Ire land I know not which to admire, his put deuce or his modesty. Does he assert, that the tew remaining exclusions of our Late are com parable with the persecutions, the whips, the fires of Catholic Spain ?—That the Act of Settle ment is as unjust as the Auto da Fe ?-1 cannot waste my own time, or your columns, Mr. Edi tor, in answering this idleness. SOLOMON ad vises us how to answer such arguers ; ii is better wisdom than SOLOMON'S, not to answer them at all. Maryland ! Hungary ! Bavaria !'--In these three " Catholic States " our Lawyer has found " bplendid instances of liberality ;" and quite " splendid" enough, in his vision, to outshine the datkue, - ;s of Spain, of Italy, and of Portugal. When this learned Counsellor, Or Bkhop TROY, or Priest 1111LN FR, or Doctor DROMGOOLF, Can strew that the Protestants of Bavaria, of Hun gary, or of Maryland, were as intolerant, as ar ro;!ant, and as tefractot y, as we have seen Irish Popery to be, it will be time enough for liberality and splendour. 'set have our Parliaments been more " libetal " than wise ; and perhaps the Je suit College of Maynooth is not quite so safe as it is " splendid." The " perfect liberality" of Popery ! Her " conscientious respect for an Oath !" These points I leave to Priest MILNER ; who kecked at swearing to " support" our Protestant King, ant! thought it enough to " submit" to him. When the 'Friar has answered these, he may, perhaps, be asked, by what legal authority he re ceived into Engl'and the Papal Appointment of his Bishopric, in deflorree of our Penal Lars? These points too, I remit to Doctor littomcooLE, whose applauded Speech upon the "tottering. novelty" of our Church, please Heaven, shall not be forgotten. I fear, Mr. Editor, that I have exceeded my reasonable share of your this tines Journal. With your permission, 1 only soon again " Talk it word with this said learned . Theban 4LGIL. POP S 1 I.` Last summer, an English Protestant GLfitle° man accompanied his wife into France ; she wa s young, she Tas beautiful,—but, alas ! consurer tints had fastened upon her its deadly grasp's After some months of ''suffering, during whic G peribd she had excited the sympathy o f eel inhabitant in her little excursions, not less by bet' grace than by her weakness, she died. A Frenc h Protestant Clergyman was summoned from a elis taut tow,' to administer the sacrament, and of terwards to pay to her remains the last sad dd . : ties. Her husband was followed to her g ravel), many hundreds of the Roman Catholics, all of (116 lower orders, whose kind feelings she bad dal her illness so strongly .interested. The lune° service was pet formed according to the rites of the Protestant Church in the French 18"' gnage ; and the worthy pastor, in an elnq uef : C • address, testified to the sympathising mulfitu"c (among whom not one (fry eye was to be seen) , 11 ' 1. sufferings, her virtues;the magnitude of her los s ' th'e power of her example, and, above all , bet faith in the sole mediation of CualsT. Hi s 117' man Catholic,anditory, who, until then, ha d Ile : • .er heard a Protestant prayer, nor i ndeed 611; i prayer at all in their own language, were astortisbe'r to find that Protestants were Christians the first time, they learned t h a t we a reilei lbe infilels nor atheists.—lint, those among them, Of it could be 05Cer° Willed that they had. attended this d an g erons ' so, wet.e visited with all the aug er of the Vilest sot 1, math the conseveneef This funeral service—this unhappy ceretroq' wag performed a few days before ClaiST 17135 Vti!f: The passports to the Eucharist of the Roln! .. Catholic Church are, as we all kno w ' and absobith!)o. Tog VBIESTS KFFOSED ABS 00%; TION TO TOOSH ROMAN CATHOLICS LIO confessi° Hp BEF.N GUILTY OF `FUR UNPARDONA BLE SIN C if I HEARING A PROTESTANT ['RAVER TO TOE GOD ° ALL 'MANKIND. — 7 -- ' e *** We can vouch for the truth of thq 0o nre statement, and hope it will have due infle upon the minds of thole w ho are inclined to o Oa the PAPISTS a share in Legislative P o wer, 0 consequently an opp ortunit y of Otteinpting t° de• stroy the BRITISH CONSTITUTION and the rger° TESTANT CHURCLI. Ttir -.EA TFt Vl4, J 4 lii c h •ht 4 . ra ter Cheer 4 Elle to a y ti ori 0 . inhel I hr rtr . Pty e, ~ c t i vetj lllilt 11 4 FOR 11113 SUN. • TO .THIS EDITOR. Sißp-A, you have closed your coiurnners-a lo9t • any further correspondence on Biblical Errors/ is proper that 1 return you my bes t thanks .0 your attention to me this important subject' Your candour is generous, and your respect g elli t t rt tlemanly. In all 1 have written, it wa s n 6 toy thoughts to offend. As 'an hulividual of a Translation which, in every pag e, flasbest conviction to an unprejudiced minds it b' id ; if ei l esteem ; and when unfairly attacked , With a • 10 1 7 k) injure it, in- favour of another, I gave A rot sa nction, not expecting the unhandsome bad 1 have experienced. 'Phis, .mwevei„ 1"( other effect than to excite my pity , t hat ail o f should set their faces against the translatin" 1-004 book, which, from my infancy, thioqh I r e' life of mental indastry, .1 hate studied r " )( d i ef gard•ed with no little anxiety.; and OW, should impugn it as the production of a fg r ' t Of myself 1 have no more to say , that) tbey langbage which these men, %Oro. o r whatever et o may be, have applied to me; has indirect! tbrlego. reconsider and maintain my own. Tilq re pel their assault upon me, which obliged ble w iec t it, not being, though a Christian, 5 0 P cr. toll ; one, as when smitten on my right cheek, t () ,• f lier on my a,,iailant my 'other also. I have " e ',o( l writteu for fame or for profit. Truth is , t og ever has been, oty pursuit, and I spare neither nor trouble in the search. " Tao proud to flatter, too sincere to tic. ewe disclose my thoughts as I reflect arid feel th tt v sv without dise.nise or dissimulation. 1 f °ll° l t bd master, and have no bias. My historY Ider. Itom.to Catbolic Question in your Jo urnal ' as the signa , nre TEEttilE FILIUs, I refer t o th e proof, and having taken Ibat of SrActcuoos!" n , me of a late venerable Vicar of tiecninnis' Berkshire, it I hail reason to think OW' i; graced it. ti Erich in my conscience 1 have °°,l:ol.# would impcde.the circulation of my bloo d ' ter, my nerves, and make every belle in "I ach. I ic ti As a member of tfite Established Clinrcb, 13ver I have 011 every occasion defended, and a 9 a : t ° l ol ° of the Constitution of my country in spi ll ' 19 and te - mporals, I lament the re:dine6s of tig' s tigi o I`'",:",'" th eir own opinions, • who caltilY teen:y attempt to deprive me of mitie• But, Sir, as you have suffered Tits St. " 1 ta r 11 16 tipon . us, and as I have another channel 10;01 retnamder of try illustrations on Mr• 1 361 ' 1 pr o_ : Trattl , ition, to the disappointment of t oi( I %l' tr yoked opponents, 1 o nce m ore thank yo your polite nod liberal consideration of, Sir, your most humble Servant, STA CV- 0 JA *** Though we Dave cloned the Contirrel:::10( yet we feel it to be due !o this Correspou (0,1 whom we have often been indebted, to su it l iai" ° conviction that be is a s i n ceie friend to It° awt his count, y. IV e earl out di hi u Po 1 44,, a,„ ,,, t kt4 'het:. 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