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This Opera, the exclusive right of representation of which has been secured to the Royal Italian Opera, will be produced with all the resources of this Establishment, under the superintendenee of Mr. Costa. ST. ROYAL JAMES'S THEATRE. FRENCH PLAYS and OPERA COMIQITE. Last Week but One of the Season. lionsieur AR.NAL and Mdme. DOCHE in Three Vaudevilles. THIS EVE.NISt+, 'Pa Performances will commence at Half-past Seven o'clock with LA VENDETTA. After which, RENAUDIN DE CAEN. To be followed by UN MONSIEUR ET UNE DAME. To conclude with CABARET DE LUSTUCRU. HER MAJESTY'S THEATRE. MADAME SONTAG, The Nobility, Patrons of the Opera, and the Public are respectfully Warmed that a GRAND EXTRA NIGHT will take place TO-MORROW EVENING When will be performed IL B &RBIERE DI SITIGLIA. To conclude with a new grand Ballet, entitled LES PLAISIRS DE L'HIVER. Applications tor Boxes, Stalls, and Tickets to be made at the Box-office of the Theatre, where Pit Tickets may be obtained as anal, price 10e. 6d. each. ROYAL ITALIAN OPERA, COVENT-GARDEN. . Madame GRIST'S BENEFIT. TO-MORROW EVENING Will be performed LES HUGUENOT. With the foll o wing powerful eniemble, vlz. : Madame Grist, Mdlle. Angri, Signors Tamburini, Marini, Lavia, Racbe, Soldi, Tagßanco, Polonini, Luigi Mei, Mario, and Mr. Sims Reeves. Composer. Director of the Music, and Conductor, Mr. Costa. THEATRE ROYAL, HAYbLiRREI . . Mr. B. Webster, Sale Lessee and Manager, Old Brompton. THIS EVENING , Will be performed a new and original tragic Play, in Five Acts, entitled STRATHMORE. Principal characters by Messrs. C. Kean, H. Vandeuhoff, Buckstone, Howe, Stuart, Rogers; Mrs. C. Kean, Mrs. Fitzwilliant. and Miss Reynolds. =To conclude with the Comedy of WILD OAT 4. Rover, Mr. James Wallack ; Harry Thunder, Mr. 11. Vandenhoff ; Lady Ama ranth, Miss P. Horton. THEATRE ROYAL. ADELPHI. Under the dlreetlon of Madame Celeste. THIS EVENING, Will be presented a new piece, entitled WEBSTER'S ROYAL RED BOOK. After which a new grand Extravaganza, entitled THE DEVIL'S TIOLIN AND THE REVOLT OF THE FLOWERS. To be followed by a novelty in the shape of A MOST UN WAR RANTABLE INTRUSION, which will be committed by Mr. Wright to the annoyance of Mr. Paul Bedford. To conclude with JOHN JONES. ROYAL LYCEUM THEATRE. Under the Management of Madame Vestals. dole Lessee. Mr. Charles Mathe THIS EVENING Will be performed GUY MANNERING. "'"To conclude with USED UP. Dress isoxes, bs. • Upper Boxes, 45. ; Pit, 25.; Gallery, Is. No calf - price to any par t of the house. The New BOIL-081013, No. 2, Wellington-street, is open to the public every day, from Ten till Six. ASTLEY'S ROYAL AMPHITHEATRE. Proprietor, Mr. W. Batty. Yoder the Patronage of her Majesty the Queen, his Royal Highness Prince Albert, &c. The following eminent artistes form the greatest amount of female equestrian talent ever engaged in this or any other establishment at one time : Mdlles. Adelaide Hinnie, Valentine, Louise Touirnaire, La Jeans Josephine ; Miss Woolford, Barrand, Davidson, Avery, and La Petite Jeanette. In addition to the above Mr. Batty has great pleasure in announc ing that he has engaged that peerless equestrian Marie Macarte, whose brilliant triumphs on the Continent and in America have ac quired for her the appellation of the Equestrian Enchantress. THIS EVENING, The performance vrilleommence with a Grand Military Equestrian Spectacle, entitled MOOLTAN and GOOJEBAT ; or, the Conquest of the Seikhs. To be followed by an inimitable display of SCENES IN THE CIRCLE. in which Marie Macarte will appear, supported by the drat Equestrian talent of the day. Ta conclude with a favourite Melodrama, entitled THE SOLI TARY OF LAMBETH; or, The Murderl n St. George's-fields. box-odice open from Eleven till Your. Stage Manager, Mr. W. West. ROYAL SURREY ZOOLOGICAL GARDENS. Last Week but One of AI. JULLIEN'S Engagement. IMMENSE AND UNPARALLELED SUCCESS. Under the patronage of her Mast Gracious Majesty, her Majesty the Queen Dowager, his Royal Highness Prince Albert, &c. The Public Press has unanimously pronounced the Storming of Badajoa to be the most perfect and life-like exhibition. The Nobility, Gentry, and the Pablic are respectfully informed that this favourite place of fashionable resort is open every MONDAY, ThEaDAY, VED.NESDAY, AND THURSDAY. LTasso n's gigantic modelled Panorama' of the TOW AND FORT OF BADAJOZ, pronounced by the voice of public *pinion to be the most perfect and life-like exhibition ever presented—Splendid Menagerie—Jullien's unrivalled Band—Vo cal and Instrumental Concert—Several Favourite Songs and Ballads by Miss Ellen Rowland and Mr. George Tedder — Solos by Kceidg, Richardson (Flute)—Violin and Violoncello by Viotti and George Collins, varied alternately—and other at tractions, concluding with a vivid representation of the Storming of Badajoz, pourtraying the advance of the British army—bombard ment and attack—gallant defence—rush to the breach by real troops —and final tableaux in honour of the " Hero of a hundred tights." REFRESHMENTS.—The frequenters of these Gardens have long Complained that Refreshments from the Confectionary-rooms only could ba rocured. Arrangements have been effected, and a distinct portion o f the Gardens set apart, where Refreshments may be had of the first quality, and at the usual Prices. Doors open at Nine o'Clock, a.m. ' • feeding of the animals at Five ; Pelicans and White Bears half-past Five ; Concert at Six ; Storming of Badajoz, at Dusk.—Admission One Shilling. On Friday, July 20, M. Jailien's Grand Concert Monstre and Con gra Musicale will take place at these Gardens. Tickets before th 6 day, 2s. 6d. ; admission on the day of the Concert, ss. NOTICES TO CORRESPONDENTS RESPECTING THE HUNGARIAN TESTIMONIAL. J. W. H., Manchester—Our generous correspondent will find the name very legibly printed in each publication. His letter is inadmissible from the circumstance of its directly acknowledging the receipt of what has not been transmitted. A Lover of Order and Liberty —" What 'a in a name r A Constant Reader has wholly mistaken our views upon the subject mentioned in his communication. On the point in question,we entirely coincide with the opinions expressed by our contemporary. We have received ■o many letters from all parts of the kingdom in reference to our exertions in favour of the Hungarians, and couched in such very eulogistic terms, that we are compelled to satisfy ourselves by briefly thanking our correspondents collectively for their sympathy and approbation. THE WEATHER.—SON OFFICE, JULY 10. ZaIitIONETER, Lowest, 54; Highest, 71; soon, 72. BAROMETER, 30.46. WIND E.—clear, sunshiny weather. HIGH WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE. Tan DAT —Morning, 24 min. after 5 1 Evening, 44 min. after 5 T.-Ifoianow—Mornina, 114 min. after 6 I Event - fir. 29 min. after 6 4 Innin a 2411 t LONDON, WEDNESDAY, JULY 11, 1849. The necessity of a considerable extension of the elective franchise is at length admitted on every side. The Premier, in a recent debate, solemnly abjured the " finality" doctrine which had so long, we are happy to say erroneously, been ascribed to him. Even the most decided Tory will scarcely venture to assert that all the inhabitants of the United Kingdom beyond the 1,030,000 electors which form the aggre gate of the electoral body should still remain unre presented. Whatever views, therefore, may be en tertained with respect to the other great questions of Parliamentary Reform, there is at least no difference with respect to the propriety of bringing within the pale of the Constitution many of those who, under the present system, are most unjstly excluded from any voice in the enactments of the laws by which they are governed, or in the disposal of the national revenues to which they are collectiv e l y and individually bound to contribute, and wh o are thus reduced to the condition of being mere political cyphers unworthy of exercising the privilege of self government, the inherent birthright of every free born man. _ . . The justice of the principle that there shall be "no taxation without representation" has long been re cognised by all parties. It is to the une qu i voca l recognition of that great political axiom that the power of the House of Commons is chiefly ascribable. That House has long been the recognized guardian of the public purse, and no interference, however minute, is tolerated with respect to the important privilege which is so jealously and vigilantly guarded. That privilege has been conceded because that souse is supposed to represent the Wants ~!4 . . V ' ) o vr G.• MA, „ . I. • 1 r • r . .s. • ... , ~,ir , -. 4,1 11 •:* i .- 4 . ,, -' ' - l• ". , • - Aril' ,--, ' , 4 0N,W ., fs. . N.w.,,) k mik - ~,, --` ,,..t ezt• ' -:••!',- ,-:, t•._ 7,'- - cr • , tc. ..,..,-.: - ''''' Ll - Cit - u.' - " N.;;,-' , , D 1 E r ~, ...: . 11j, '..". •It - -... '' .... ..., THE SUN, and wishes of the tax-paying community--and its assent must be recorded before any impost can be levied, or before one shilling of the proceeds can be applied to any purpose whatsoever. In theory, therefore, if not in practice, every individual who in any degree contributes to the national Exchequer, is entitled to the franchise; and his exclusion can only be justified on the ground of some great and over whelming state necessity—that it would, in fact, be dangerous to society to enable him to exercise his undoubted right. Although we cannot participate in the fears of those timid politicians who believe that the British Constitution would be imperilled by placing the democratic element on the most extended basis, we would yet be prepared to assent to the satisfirction of the popular claims by fair and liberal instalments. We would allow them to learn the needlessness of their scruples from experience, provided the first step were speedily taken in the right direction. But it must be no trivial or illusory concessions, no petty alteration, that will still leave the glaring and flagrant injustice subsisting in all its enormity. The veteran Reformer, JOSEPH; HUME, who at one period stood almost alone in his advocacy of popular rights in the Commons House of Parliament, has declared that he will for the present accept Household Suf frage, and a large body of Reformers have acceded to the proposition of their tried and faithful friend- 1 a large addition would thus be made to the severe constituencies, and, many well-qualified men would be added to the lists of electors. But the dominant party still object ; they acknowledge the right, but they declare that such right cannot be exercised with safety - ; that, in fact, the great body of the people are not duly qualified for the trust; that they are not competent to form a sound judgment on public questions, or, on the qualifications and characters of public men; that wherever the mists of ignorance are dispelled, and education generally diffused throughout the community, the restrictions may be removed, and the structure of society placed upon the broadest foundation. Such are the arguments by which the claims of the less wealthy classes are opposed; and there is u ndoubtedly some shadow ofrea son in the assertion that those who neglect the op portunities now placed within the reach of all — who exhibit such culpable apathy and carelessness in the improvement of their own minds, who are the volun tary slaves of ignorance —should not be entrusted with political power. Our esteemed Correspondent, whose letter will be found in another part of our impression this day, suggests a mode by which these difficulties may be overcome. He proposes the adoption of "an educa tional test," or as he himself happily terms it, "to give the vote to a man because he is a man, not because he has purchased some earth, or some bricks and mortar." If this proposi tion were adopted, if every man capable of reading and writing, and who understood the primary rules of common arithmetic, were admitted to the fran chise, an extraordinary stimulus would be applied to learning which is now, unhappily, too much neg lected. Then, indeed, the absence of a vote would be regarded as a shame and a disgrace not to the Legislature, but to the individual who, by his own default, was excluded from the privileges belonging to his fellow-men. Under the present narrow and illiberal system, many who are far better qualified by intellectual at tainments for the proper discharge of the duties of a citizen than the great majority of the electoral body, as at plesent constituted, are most unfairly and improperly rejected. They thus suffer a vicarious punishment for the de ficiencies of others. This is neither just nor equit able, and cannot be defended on any principle. We commend the suggestion to the consideration of all sincere reformers—of liberals not merely in profes sion but in practice. There would be but little diffi culty in applying the test, and bringing the system into operation. It would also possess this recom mendation, that it would contain within itself the elements for the future extension of the suffrage as occasion should arise_ It would be parrootly stae, for a higher qualification could scarcely be suggested, and it would be satisfactory to the great body of the working classes, whose discontent and dissatisfaction at their present condition is fraught with the utmost danger to the community in general. 1 The spirit of malicious vindictiveness, of reckless disregard for legality and truth, which has ever cha racterised the proceedings of the Bourbon Kings of Naples and of their agents, with regard to Sicily and the Sicilians, has been remarkably illustrated during the past week by the prosecution of Prince GRANATELLI and Signor SCALIA at the Central Criminal Court. For three days were a Sicilian nobleman, Prince GRANATELLI ; a member of the Sicilian Parliament, Signor LUIGI SCALIA. ; and an English seaman, Captain MOODY, compelled to stand at the bar of the Old Bailey to meet a criminal charge brought against them by the agents of the King of NAPLES a charge for which there was no foundation either in law or in fact, and in support of which several witnesses were called, of whom we will only say that whilst they are worthy of the service of the King of NAPLES, his is the only European service which is worthy of them. Even had Prince GRANATELLI and Signor SCALIA been really guilty of the mis demeanour laid to their charge, there was something mean, cowardly, and vindictive, and therefore, per haps, peculiarly Bourbon-like, in choosing the pre sent time, of all others, for prosecuting them ; but, inasmuch as they had done nothing ille gal or wrong, and inasmuch as the agents of the King of NAPLES in this country must have been perfectly aware that such was the case, inas much as it was evident to every man of common sense and of ordinary knowledge of law, that the pro secution could have but one termination, the ac quittal of the defendants, it is clear that the gratifi cation of a petty spirit of vindictiveness was the motive which actuated the Neapolitan authorities in undertaking it. It appears that in June, 1848 Prince GRANATELLI and Signor SCALIA were accre dited to the English Government by the Provisional Government of Sicily, and were received by Lord PALMERSTON, if not officiellement, yet officieusesnent in that capacity. There was no mystery about their mission, they were seen by the Prince of CASTEL CICALA, the Neapolitan Ambassador, waiting in the ante-room of the Foreign-office ; they were met by Prince CASTELCICALA at the soirees of Lady PAL MERSTON. At the time of their arrival they were anxious to purchase t.vo English steamers to send out to Sicily (be it remembered the Ring of NAPLES had purchased nearly the whole of his steam fleet in England), and so careful were they not to infringe the law of England, that it appears from Sir FITZROY KELLY'S statement they acted, in every step they took, under the best legal advice, and before purchasing the steamers, and before fitting them out, ascertained that neither by the purchase nor by the manner cf fitting up these vessels were they violating the English law; and they were well advised ; for although their proceed ings were narrowly watched by the Prince of CAS TELCICALA and his spies, although the respectable Colonel AUBREY, now an ornament to the service of King Bomne, for a "wretched and mean bribe" of 3001. consented to become that worst of traitors, a traitor in uniform—" un militaire tui &shit, un traitre en uniform c'est la pine espece de toutes"—although REDONDO, the " sturdy vagabond," whom we re commended to the attention of the Mendicity Society, was sent as a spy, eventually to be kicked out as a traitor ; and although Mr. D. 11. IVATsoN, not content with serving the Queen of ENGLAND as a Customs officer for money, must needs also serve King BoMBA " out of pure love and affection, without reward or the promise of reward as informer —although all these persons were engaged day after day, and hour after hour, in watching and tale-bearing, yet they could discover nothing, and alb e it M r . D. H. W ATSON , i n the exuberance of his zeal, seized the Bombay on the 16th of-Marcb, and thereby rendered himself liable to an action for damages, yet after a minute investi gation the law-officers of the Crown decided that there was no cause whatever for detaining the vessel, and on the 4th of May she was delivered up. Enraged at being thusfoiled in their revenge, mad dened by the refusal of the English Government to permit the metropolitan police to be employed as spies for the King of : NAPLES, the partisans of that amiable Monarch concocted the prosecution which has just terminated in the triumphant ae- LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING, JULY 11, quittal of Prince GRANATELLI, and the signal de- y feat of the agents of King Bostn %. Whether or I not the matter is to end here, whether or not the prosecutors and witnesses in this case may not here after be themselves indicted, some for perjury, some for subornation of Ferjury, some for conspiracy, are matters on which those whom they sought to make their victims must determine; but we are convinced that neither Prince GRANATELLI nor Signor SCALIA will regret the pain, the trouble, the annoyance, and the vexation to which they have been subjected, when they consider the very important admissions as to the nature of the Government of Sicily which this trial has been the means of eliciting from the Ministry of that Km; who now, by the admission of his accre dited representative in England, stands branded in the face of the world as an illegal usurper, a tyrant, an insurgent Monarch, in a state of permanent in surrection against those laws to which alone he owes his throne ; whose rule in Sicily is, consequently upon his own showing, the rule of brute force alone, without the shadow of right, and whose yoke there fore may at any time be thrown off without any violation of law, or right, or justice, whensoever those who groan under it shall feel themselves sufficiently strong to strike another blow for freedom. The Prince of CArrxmcaLe, the representative in this country of the King of the Two SICILIES, was examined upon oath at this trial, and he was, in the course of his cross-examination, compelled to admit that the legitimate Government of Sicily is a Constitutional Government. "Sicily has two Chambers," says the Prince of CASTELCICALA, " a Chamber of Peers and a Chamber of Commons: , Where, we ask, were those Chambers from 1816; to 1848—where are they now ? We have all along contended that the Sicilians have been throughout in their right, and we have now the admission of the Prince of CASTELCICALA that such is the case. Lord PALMERSTON was,therefore, perfectlyjustified in apply ing the term " Sicilian Government" to the Regency of RUGGIERo &Tinto, and notwithstanding the ravings of the gentleman who perpetrates Abeerdeenisms for a morning paper, he would have been perfectly justified had he formally recognised the Sicilian Government, and received Prince GRANATELLI and Signor SCALIA, not merely officieusiment but offi ciellezent. The writer to whom we allude, in his zeal to uphold the cause of that paragon of Monarchs, King BoasßA, has ventured to misrepresent the law of nations, and as that misrepresentation is evidently a coinage from the Aberdeen mint, and will no doubt be quoted hereafter in Parliament by the co-conspi rators of the continental reactionaries, it may be as well at once to set the question at rest by appealing to an authority to which even METTERNICH himself will not venture to demur. We mean VATTEL. The dis ciple of ABERDEEN says:—" We deny that it has been the practice of this country, or that it is consistent with public law, to foment rebellious in foreign States, by the recognition of such Governments"—(meaning such Governments as the late Sicilian Government) — and further on he adds :—" These principles are not contested." So far from these principles not being contested, we contend that they have never been admitted. With regard to the recognition of such Governments, the practice of this country has been the very contrary of that which it is here represented to have been. Mr. CANNING, by the recognition of the Governments of the South American Republics, " called the New World into existence to redress the balance of the old ;" and even Lord ABERDEEN himself, in obedience it must be admitted to Russian com mands, and with the full permission of his mentor, METTERNICH, ventured to recognise the Government of Greece. So much for the practice of this country. Now with regard to the consistency of this practice with public law, we find, on referring to VATTEL, that he lays it down as the public law of Europe that all foreign nations are bound not only to recog nise but to aid a people situated as the Sicilian nation is situated with regard to King FERDINAND. "If the PRINCE," says VATTEL (Book 1., chap. iv.), "by violating fundamental laws, furnishes to his people a legitimate cause for resistance ; if his tyranny by becoming insupportable, rouses the nation to insurrection, every foreign power has aright to assist an oppressed people who demand aid and protection. When a nation takes up arms against a tyrant it is just and generous to support a brave people de fending their liberty. In case of civil war, therefore, foreign Powers may assist whichsover of the two parties appears to them to have justice on its side. There are monsters who, under the name of kings, render themselves the scourge and horror of humanity, and every man of honour is bound in con science to assist in extirpating these ferocious beasts from the earth." Again, in Book 8, chap. xvi., VATTEL says, "In all these cases the bonds of society are broken, the state is divided into two portions in dependent of each other, and which no longer recog nise any common head, and the war between them is subject to all the rules of international war. They are bound to observe the ordinary laws of war . ; in fact, the personal ally of the deposed king cannot assist him against the nation, which, in deposing him, has only used its right—if he undertakes to do so, he is guilty of a crime against the liberty of the nation." We trust that this question is now set at rest, and that we shall have no more twaddling Aberdeenisrns about " insurgent juntas" " fomenting rebellion," &c. &c. The authority of VATTEL is on such A point somewhat superior to that of even "cet excellent ABERDEEN." That the Sicilians come within the category contemplated by VATTED is fully proved in a pamphlet recently puhlished by RIDGWAY, en " Sicily and England." This pamphlet, written, we believe, unthr the immediate superintendence of Prince GRANATELLI, goes fully into the whole ques tion, and as every assertion in it is supported by vouchers, it is an invaluable record for the future historian. 9'o THE EDITOR OF TriE SUN. 0;c1 4114Pfit of the pleasure, and notic..d the subscription list !twit tavola • Ilu S i i ::: -- ria l n I s 13 :17d r tr war ~i• „ r1 , 2c.. wi , h with far more, and I feel it would be s ti t an oi duty and humanity were I to refrain from tOding my mite of one pound towards alleviating th, baraskiips of those gallant solders or their nation now in our country, and ther,by expressing my heArry symptny with (iu my humble opinion) their very .jii t eause. My long-cherished and still , urn - inuerl ••••tatitiment to the doctrines of Conservatism and A , cial order renders revolutionary principles of every shale hateful to me in the extreme ; but I see only in the present iniquitous proceedings against the Hungarians an attempt, not to quell revolution, but to enslave a free nation arid a brave people. I sincerely hope that English aid and English feeling will be manifested from one end of our island to the other in support of this important suejeet, despite the efforts of the Absolutist journals, and t cho to thsi heart of Hungary the cheering intelligence dist, if tLe Government cannot interfere in her behall, time iii fish public at least sympathise with her sufferings, unite to comfort and relieve her children, and rcjoice in her victories. You are at liberty to make what use you please of this letter, if you think it will aid the eau.p. I remain, Sir, yours very übedien.ly, GEORGE MA II ILL. 26, Badford•street, Plymouth, July 10, 1840. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. Sits,—lt is impossible, after reading the mendacious letter of a pretended Hungarian, to refrain from express. ing my indignation, in unison with many others, at the insidious brutality of the article. In hall an hour's time I could produce the signatures of thousands of true hearts, eager for an opportunity of publishing their ab horrence. We must have patience, and thank you for your masterly vindication of the man who exposes an unbending front to all the resources of the Absolutists— mortals of tinsel, whose game, I fervently trust, is best i n dicated to be near an end by the dishonourable and inhuman means they have recourse to in their endeavours to keep it up.—Accept. Sir, the assurances of, &c., AN ADMIRER AND WELL-WISHER. Gray's Inn, July 10, 1849. MARKET NEWS.-(THIS DAY.) CORN- EXC HANGE-WEDNESDAY Scarctly any Engl►sh Wheat was on sale in to-day's marker, the total arrival by water-carriage since Satur day having amounted to only 230 quarters. The at tendince iii Luv ers was small, yet the demand for all kinds of Wheat, of home produce, was firm, at fully Monday's quotation. Rather over 9,000 quarters of foreign Wheat have come to hand this week. Selected samples of both red and white moved off steadily, at very full prices. In the middling and inferior kinds very few transactions were reported.; Grinding Barley ruled firm at the late advance. Malting and distilling sorts were quite as dear. We had a very slow inquiry for Malt, at barely stationary prices. Good sound Oats were very scarce, and turn dearer. Inferior samples ruled heavy. Beans end Pima supported late rates without difficulty. Indian Corn, Meal, and Flour, as last advised. ARRIVALS TILTS WEEK. Wheat. 130 01. Barley. Oats. I Flour. CO q rs.. 520 qrs. 1,0504 k s Fogllsh Scotch Irish °reign 9,040 2.790 I 1,770 I ----- Malt, 2,210 qrs. 110210U1111 11011 Our market is very scantily , suppliPd with most kinds of hops, and the accounts from the plantations are still unfavourable. The best qualities command a steady sale, at lull prices. In all other kinds very little is doing. Duty, 85,0001. Suss, x poi 31 56. to 41. 6s, ; Weald of Kent ditto, 31. 12s. to 41. 45.; Mid and East Kent ditto, 41. to 71. per cwt. and who deriv-0 advantages from the blockade of I B 7.;" cor ,,, et - ; ,ra LI, it, lop ;.1- f;.' pf,,. ne : l ,a' ~,te V 01, 0, la .visas{ Pt pr,s4ly et.thel le 182 S tee. Ole roeetry had only acted hS reedier et in the affair, of the [Toted Provinc La Bata It wr, wi h of regret that he some times saw eve:4t aritai embark' on politica! voyages in comp 1-y teat nine tiaes; eet tun pre vented her sailing era .h faster *VA er th:e se.e eugrit to do. There was a :itr-mg feei:ng teesia.t ReesL4 this country, but in whatev,r manlier he may ha.e been treated by his fellese citizens, he had ever atf riled protection to foreigners. He believed that no man was more able than General Roses to mainmin an sdvae tageous connexion will this country. Tiler,. was ilo esauntial cause of disunion existing betw, en this coun try aed Buenos Ares. though there might be an acci dental cause. He believed that it was the best policy to he especially pursued wi , It regard to p.eaons of Spanish origin. In conclusi , in, the Noble Lord Aated that for every act of his official c.eiduet when Minist r at Buenos Ayres, he had received a.4rrances of unqualifl , ,d appro. Nation from the Government. After some brief obvrvations from the Eat] of LIAR RO WBY, which were inandible ie the gallery, The Earl of ABERDEEN said, it r..mained to be seen whether the negotiations now going en with regard to the affairs of Buenos Ayres would result it, a success ful issue. He confessed that he was very happy in hearing the Noble Marquis express himself with such con fidence on the subject, but he ventured to think that the probabilities of success depended much upon whether the question to be resolved related to anything between this country and France. If the ultimatum was to be sent to Buenos Ayres for approval, his expectation was that they would fail of a satisfactory result. The question mainly depended whether the independence of the Oriental Republic was to be preserved or not. The sub stance of the settlement was that which he had sent out in May, 1846, known as the Hood basis, and in propor tion as they adhered to that proposition they upheld the principles of justice and truth. Lord BEAUMONT withdrew the expression " job bers," applied the other evening to the persons who had raised the loan, when speaking of the Custom-house. He had since then ascertained that they were all Most respectable persons. On the motion of the Marquis of LANSDOWNE, the amended Poor Relief (Ireland) Bill was read a first time, and the second reading fixed for Friday. Lord MONTEAGLE laid on the table a Bill for re• gulating the taxation of costs in private cases before their Lordships. The Silver Coinage Bill was read a third time and passed. Their Lordships then adjourned. HOUSE OF CO 11 M 0 NS, Alt/ 9 t#rZi Vbitton LIVERPOOL JULY MEETING. (BY ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH.) The Croxteth Stakes. Sylvan walked over. Bickeritaffe Stakes. Flying Dutchman walked over. The Mersey Stakes. Potentia filly ... ... ... ... Sicyon • • Post Produce Stakes Tingle ... ... ... ••• 4 , 011 ... 1 Italian ... ... ... ••• ... ... ... 2 Produce Sweepstakes. The Flying Dutchman .walked over. SUDDEN DEATH OF MR. JUSTICE COLTMAN.-(THIS DAY.) It is with regret that we have to announce the sudden demise of Mr. Justice Coltman, for many years one of the Puisne Judges of the Court of Common Pleas. The learned deceased Judge had been in a weak state of health for some time, and had recently suffered from th e effect of a severe fall from his horse. On Monday night he complained of indisposition, which gradually grew upon him in the course of yesterday, the symptoms being stated to indicate cholera, from which he but slightly rallied, and expired at his residence 8, Park-gardens at seven o'clock this morning. The deceased Judge, though not eminent for the display of brilliant abilities either at the bar or on the bench, was generally esteemed for the suavity and amiability of his manners. We do not know his exact age, but it could not be far from three score and ten. The last occasion on which he officiated as judge was at the Central Criminal Court last Saturday, in trying Prince Granatelli and his coadjutors for fitting out Eng li3h steam-vessels to take part in the Sicilian insurrec tion. We may say truly, "in the midst of life fife are in death." Flax-moor PARTITIONS AND CEILINGS OF WIRE WORK.—The latter have been successf u lly a p p li e d, i n place of lath, with piaster and stucco as usual, at the Chester Lunatic Asylum. The wires are about j in. apart, and the plaster forms an adhesive and serviceable mass, even on both sides. The wire is galv,tnizA, or japanned, to prevent corro4ion. Not only ceilings, one i would think, but thin partitions and walls n general, might be wired in place of lathed, and risk of fire thus greatly diminished by a process neither patented nor costly.— The Builder. Lord John Russell left town yesterday morning, for Pembroke-lodge, Richmond-park. TEMPORALITIES THE CilUttCll OF IRELAND. Mr. BERNAL OSBORNE then rose pursuant to notice to move for a Committee of the whole House to cousider the present state of the tempo ralities of the Church of Ireland. The .Honourable Gentleman, he said, the Member for Pontefract, in in troducing the very useful measure he had just brought before the House, had told the House how difficult it was for any individual Member to grapple with the subject of the treatment and the formation of jqvenile offenders. It it was difficult for an individual Member to bring such a subject before the House, how much more difficult it was for an independent Member of Parliament, totally unconnected as he was, not only with the Government, but with any political party to bring forward the qaestion of which he had given notice for this evening. (Hear. bear.) However he might regret that the great names and which were formerly devote,' to the di,etisinn of this question were no l inger avail ibis, for the purpose, at least ho could not be Becuvd of showing any undo presumption in now eutenittinz it to the notice of the House.—t Cries of •' Bear, hear.") Whather it wits that the aspect of Irish gsir.v.si.ces had isceii more renk and offensive to gent/erntn on the epposite benches. r.r thus the Irish repres-iitstivei th me-ives, so a body, we r e indifferen.; to this sub!: et Le‘knew net. but this qu-s -tion of the Irish Church, which was fo , nierly the g Ath , r leg cry of the %V laig,4, had been within the last few years _ . etiiireiy laid aside, earl th 4t instrument, on wh ch many harmonioa; ta..el had bt ea play,d, was now like the fabulous burp of I%ra. hung up mute, and remained utial , renz.— (Hour, lieut..) Howev , r Hon. Gentleman difforcd wr h n tuis question, they would not be inclined to say that it was not ono of the greyest corned Atatton. Where the whole ecclesasticul revenu-s of the country were devoted to one-tenth of the population, awl lbs.- ono-tenth of the people the Protestant minority, an-i where the religion of the r , ..;jority wa. ba winked at by the State, he could not but think such a question was in itself worthy the gravest couside ration of this House. He thought there was no Member to' that House, who, if even they had to commence legislating on this subject de novo, would be inclined to take those funds founded by the ancestors of the poor Catholic ma . jority, and bestow them upon the spiiitual education of the rich Protestant minority.—(Cries of "Hear, hear.") He should give one of the best definitions he knew of the Irish Church in a very few words. 'Tr —araa the opinion of a great Coissimpratiwo. statesman. He said, " You have an ecclesiastical establishment which, though the religion of the Prince and most of the first-class of landed proprietors, was not the religion of the - major part of the people." That was said by Burke in 1796. And how stood the case in 1849? It was true they had corrected some flagrant abuses, but the evil still existed. In 1823 the question of the temporalities of the Irish Church was first mooted in that House by that pioneer of all modern improvements, his Honourable Friend the Member for Montrose. Unlike the generality of original projectors, whose projects were treated in their time as the offsprings of political empiricism, he had lived to find them carried out by the leaders of both parties, and who, nevertheless, never laid claim to them, but pursued the " even tenor of his way"— (Cheers)—and happily continued in pristine strength and adhered with stern consistency to the sentiments of his early days.—(Hear, hear.) That motion was sup ported by Mr. Ward, the late Memberler Sheffield. and by the present President of the Board of Control, and the Prime Minister. For eight years he c tritinued this course, and was supported in it by of some of thos e now in the Cabinet. At length, Lord Althorp brought in a Bill on the subject, which abolished vestry cess, but the 147 , h clause, or the appropriation clause, was in an evil hour abandoned. A r einarkehl , “ de bate ensued, which was full; reported in "llanserd. ' In those days arbitration was much needed, for several Mem bers were called out. Mr. Hume and Mr. O'Connell op posed the Bill, and Mr. Sheil wade a speech which would never be forgotten. He regretted he did not favour the House with speeches so often as the House could wish.—(Hear, hear.) Upon that occasion Dr. Lushington entreated the House to adjourn, since in his experience he bad never seen the decencies of public and private life so much violated. The Bill wis given up. Still. Mr. Ward persevere-d in 1835 Li 1834 Mr. O'Connell had made his great m tion for rep.'al, and be was met wi h an auvoultnent. But it was desirable to promote all important inprovements. On the 30th of March in th year Lord John lius-ell brought on a motion on the subject. and the Parliament of that day passed the Appropriation Bill. Still Mr. Ward went on making his annual motions. Ia 1843, Mr. Smith O'Brien, who whatever his faults were was en honest Member of Parliament, brought forward a motion. In that year the present. Chem' Ilor of the Exchequer said the first evil of Ireland eats the state o t . the Irish Church; thee in no country of Europe was such an establishment maintained for the nenefit of a small minority of , he population; and he considered it the duty of the Governm.nt to originate a remedy lor the evils complained of, and to provide for the settle ment of the question.—(lleur. hear.) The Right Hon. Secretary for Ireland Isla° made ti very animated speech —(A. laugh)—on that occasion. lie (Mr. Osborne) did not use the term invidiously; he meant that the Right lion. Baronet was excited. (The Hen. Gentleman proceeded to read some passages from the speech of Sir W. Somerville, who said, be had heard, but did no! believe, that it was not the intention of the Government to re•open the question of the Irish Church, and who appealed to the Conservative and Christian gentlemen of England whether, if they were in the situation of the Irish people, they would submit to that establishment, adding, that he little knew the spirit of the English nation if they would not resist it.) He (Mr. Osborne) wished to ask that Right-Honourable Baronet, as a Con servative and a Christian gentleman, whether he was now prepared to resist that Church ?—(Hear, hear, and a laugh.) The Right Hon. Member for Ripon also said, during the same debate, that he admitted the Irish Church to be the most important of all subjects —one which he feared lay at the bottom of all their difficul ties. Lord Howick, now Earl Grey, said on the same occasion, that if they meant to have peace in Ireland they must reform the Established Church—(Hear, bear) —that they must not shirk the question, but must deal with the property of that Church. On that occasion seven of the present Cabinet Ministers voted for the motion. In 1844, so much afraid was the Noble Lord at the head of the Government lest the question should be taken out of his hands by Mr. Smith O'Brien, that he moved for a Committee to inquire into the state of Ireland, and a remarkable debate took place. (The Hon. Member here read passages from the speeches delivered by Lord J. Russell and Sir G. Grey in the course of that debate. The Noble Lord said:—" With regard to the Irish Church, the system I should be disposed to adopt would be one which would put the Established Church, as regards Roman Catholics and Protestants, „ upon a footing of the most perfect equality." a ir 0. Grey said that when he was told the quest ion of thi Irish Church was beset with difficulties, he denied theta to be difficulties sufficient to deter a Minister of the Crown from dealing with it; and that noth ing ap peered to him worse, nothing more heasadous, th an for Parliament to declare that they would not entertai t , the question of the Irish Church becau se it w as beset with di ffi culties; adding—" The union must be maintained, but a complete union sever um be effected so long as the established and endowed Church of the minority exclusively exists."—(Hear.) The * hole of the Present Cabinet, and of the present race of Lords of tip Treasury, and people of that cla ss — (A laugh) —thee voted, he believed, for the Noble Lorn's motion. Th. last time the qee,tion of the Irish Church had been dis cussed in that House was in 1845. when Mr. Ward moved an amendment upon the prop os iti on o f t h e Ri ght Hon. Member for Tumworth with resta-ct to the Collect of Maynooth. H' did not know hoe Irish Members wool , ! act upon this occasion, but he bead rain an i, kling the course some of th se Ron. Members would uriol , from what had already . feken place. The Hon. Mcnibt for Roscommon had said, that this was not the , proper time for bringing forward such a sabj..et ; that it wools tend to excite discoid. Now, be found that the Hon. Gentleman hod wirer, in the tows of his long Parlismea- "CVSITECEEAPEL. The general denvnti was iu A very aluzehh state, at barely stationary prices. Beef, from 21 to 33 4d; Mutton, 3s 4d to 4s 8d ; 1,31.0 b, 4s t., 4s 10 I ; 3a 2i..t0 33 8d; and Purk, 3s tid to 3s 10d per Sibs, by the carcase. LLOYD'S SHIPPIN HIS DAY.) LONDO4, JULY 11.—Wind this day at noon E., fresh breeze, and fine, clear, dry weather. TROON : JULY 9.—Arrd. Eliza, Brown, Q brie. BRISTOL, JULY 10.—Wind N.W.—Arr3. Livcri;ool, Porter, Nevis. FALMOUTH, JULY 10.—Wind E.— Arrd. Ntw York, Boye, Rio Janeiro; Daphne, Bahia. tiff, Hercus Monte, Bahia. PLYMOUTH, JULY 10.—Wind fresh.—Sld. Loyalist, Newfoundland. Ora HASTINGS, JULY 10.—Artemisia, Ridley, Sidney, New South Wales. Dom, JULY 10.—Wind E.N.E.—Johan, Von Vege sack, St. Domingo. DEAL, JULY 10.—Wind E.N.E. to E.—Arrd. 7th, Auguste, Langenberg, Havannah, for the Ems. 10th, Aurora, Cottier, Talcoreen; Eliza Robson, Taylor, Buenos Ayres; Couriven, Anderson, Bahia, for Copen hagen; Xercetno, M'Minn, St. Domingo; Hercules, Newton, St. John's, New Brunswick. A boat, marked " Joseph R. Pim, V. G. Densten," was picked up Ist inst., in lat. 49 N., lon. 11 W., by the Hercules, New ton, in the Downs. LIVERPOOL. JULY 10.—Wind S.W. to W.—Arrd. 9th, Peruvian, Todd, Bonny, sailed April 7; Kestrel, Wise, Huanchaco; Medina, Grayson, Valparaiso; Navigator, Le Fiore, Buenos Ayres; Liverpool, Irving, Savannah. 10th, Ganges, Cornforth, Cochin; Queen, Newlands, Corasco; Mechanic, Sargent, Cameroons; Fairfield, L aveland, New Orleans; Sr,. Patrick, Waterman, New York; Arabian, Crangle, ditto; Cambridge, Peabody, ditto; Orion, Connor, Boston. Sld. -oth, Argente, Tan] • pica. 10 h, Lidy ionstable, Richibucto; Monument, Trott, Nuw York; Galena, ditto; Leopard, Boston; Zetland, St. John's, New Brunswick; New 1, eland, ditto; Alacrity, Halifax; Glenswilly, Quebec; Sir C. Napier, ditto. Off port, 10th, Bee, Arica, Liverpool, and Florist. MA RLBRO'-ST REET-(THIS DAY.) Walter Buz he, a rough looking fellow, was placed at the bar, charged with having violently assaulted Mr. William Page, landlord of the Nag's Head Tavern, New Compton-street, Sono. The complainant, whose head was much cut, stated that on the previous afternoon, about four o'clock, he was in the bar serving some customers, when the pri soner came into the house in a state of intoxication, and attempted to force his way into the parlour. On being told that he w as not in a fit state to enter the room he became very abusive and ran into the back yard. Wit ness followed him, and found the prisoner standing in the middle of the )ard with his clothes in great dis order, exposing hires.-It in a very indecent manner to three fem:4l.es who were standing sie:r the bar. Com plainant remon,trated with the privaier on the impro priety of his conduct, and destred him to leave the house. The prisoner refused, and on witness going to seek for assistance the prisoner followed him to the bar, and, without saying a word, he (the prisoner) snatched up a glass tumbler and threw it at his bead. The glass was thrown with such force that it broke to pieces, cutting complainant's head and face in a dreadful manner. A man who was stun ling at toe bar at the time seized hold of the prisoner end gave him in charge. The prisoner, in defence, said he wa3 very drunk,and did not recollect anything about 1!. Mr. I-lennwinK said he would impress it upon the prisoner's recollection by fining him 5/, and iu default committed him for three month,. KENTISH TOWN LITERARY INaTITUT/ON.—The enterprising committee of this young but r.pidly rising institution having entered into an engagen.ent with Miss Clara Seyton, this talented lady last night app eare d there, and gave her highly interesting musical enter tainment to an attentive and delighted audit nce. lecture was very flatteringly received. Auittng the pieces mostly applauded were the d , scti, Lice ballad " Cumnor Ball," the " Old Ferryman," rnthus'astically encored, and the "'Truant Bridegroom." Lt cult vs of this description cannot but popularize this 7 4 , xcellent in stitution. THEATRE ROYAL, GRAVESEND.--This pre'ty little theatre is now open for the summer season. wider the able direction of Mr. F. Cooper, late lessen of Ulu Strand Theatre. A very excellent company is enemp:, , il, find everything bids fair for, a highly prosperous campaign. Ducrow's favourite piece, The Dumb Man of Manchester, has been performed twice during the present week, with much success ; poor Duorow's part of Tom, the dumb man, being admirably sustained by Mr. D. ooper. Mr. Yarnold, the Strand Theatre favourite, is included in the company. We hope the speculation may prove suc ccessful. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, July 10. RIVER PLATE. Lord COLCHESTER rose to put the question of which he had given notice, in relation to the affairs of the River Plate. He wished to know what was the pre sent state of our negotiations with the Government of Buenos Ayres relative to the pacification of the countries bordering on the River Plate? The Marquis of LANSDOWNE had every reason to believe that the negotiations were proceeding favourably, and ho had hoped that ere this he should have been enabled to announce the conclusion of a treaty, but the delay had been occasioned by a well-founded hope that the French Government would join in a treaty which would secure the future tranquillity of the countries bordering on the River Plate, and he had every hope and expectation that such a treaty would be speedily concluded. Lord HOWDEN hoped the House would excuse the apparent irn gularity of which he was guilty in addressing their Lordships on this occasion ; but as his conduct, in regard to those negotiations, had been attacked, he hoped their Lordships would permit him to defend himself.—(Hear, hear.) It was not his desire I to drag their Lordships back to the commence ment of the intervention, because he could never discover when it originated. Each Government seemed to be desirous of escaping from the responsibility of the commencement of an intervention which bad turned out to be so unsucces4ul. The commencement of the quarrel was the refusal of General Oribe to suffer Argentine prises to be coati:weird in Monte Videan parts—that was to say, that he refused to permit the property of an ally to be cnii , c dirt and sold in his ports. Several agents had been sent out by this country during the progress of the q'iar:el between Buenos Ayres and Monte Video, for the purpnse of effecting a settlement of the question, but .1; ha f failed in so dole& In 1847 he himself went out, and although ne was unable to settle the dispute, yet the Warne did not rest with him, but with the Monte Videdis vat), who refused to accede to the basis proposed. There were a set of loan mongers, who swallowed up the resourco of the state, 1019, I tary career. given a V , ' , .1• ,Ii K , - 11 OW tAt'.2',..l. ..1 tile I. ;A Chlreb. lie (MT. 0..i,..r. . ) -1,;,7-1 ~, fi n lir .t.;:.• t ry rat_ apppopriltioil bLl' vvi!.o .ome. iHgh (Lguicrtrq,s Churuh cotnunt what would have bP.in tuicidal , kv t hit pm. Lie ( \tr. 0 0,4. w.) might aT;sv‘,7q- that tILw fl.uti , tuaq's obi Ittien th 47 thlN , wis proper I . iuri, ,osr sut:h di.eus,ion by [ha .:, ;; de by ti v. al-eaer of de. Mint, then Mr, Shed—(Leigh•eri—in 1833 in reply ta a similar objection. That Right lion. Gentleman, after observing that it had been argued than was nut the proper time for changing the appropri ation of the Church temporal Hes, went on to say:— " Not the time ! When is it to arrive ? Before the Rehrtned Pad a cent it was rot the time until the Re formed Parliernedt; here is the Reformed Parliament, and the time h nut yet come. When will it? Wren the Whius are in opposition? What! It we are to wait until their offiieleoev-nience tallies with the rights of Ireland, we shall have to wait long indeed."—(Laughter.) lie (Mr. Osborne) hoped the Government did not intend to move" the pia vIeUS question" as an amendment on his m mon. Ii thoeght the best definition that could be given of the present session was, that it had been a ~.s a en of previous questions; for on searching the de bates be laurel that in no former session had " the pre vious vestier," beer, so frequently moved. People out of doors were somewhat puzzled to imagine what the previous question meant. It was nothing more than a Parliamentary kliiir,ht of hand, used to cut the ac quaintaric. of an old friend who had been useful in op position, but who might be inconvenient to a party in power. He (Mr. Osborne) did not regard this as a mere question of money, but he would have the financial re• formers of England look about them, and remember when the tax collector came to the doors that a great deal was levied to maintain an army of occupation for the support of the Irish Church. He regarded this as an impartial question, as well as an Irish question; . .,pe• cause, whatever measures they might pass, so long as they left the Church of Ireland in its present state would Ireland be not only the difficulty of a Minister, but the embarrassment of an empire,—so long would the Noble Lord be justified in coming down to the House and say ing, as he did in 1844, that Ireland was occupied and not governed; and so long would Ireland remain in the state so graphically described by the Honourable Mem; ber for Buckinghamshire, of social decomposition.— (Hear, hear.) Referring to the past history of Ire land, the Eon. Gentleman observed that the Reforma tion in Ireland was carried out on the great Whig prin ciple of appropriation, the original reformers caring little about Irish souls, but a great deal about Irish property. —(Laughter.) Cromer, the Archbishop of Armagh, denounced the reformers as the Socialists of that day, who under the plea of reform were plundering and ,poiiating the country; and Leland, a Protestant writer, reo..rds in his history, teat the gross lives of the re former, constitwed a great dravi back to the Reforma true. Tne history of th.• Irish Church, in the time of Ettzsbeth, was written in characters of blood, for that monareh, thou g h a good Puse)ite in this country, was a bitter Presbyt.-ri.ii ire Irellnd; and wh.n Lord Straffird was expo.tulut,d with fur his cruelties in Leland, be gave as his excuse that his object was to increase the revenue; so that the Roman C,rtholics were rot bed for the advaticktncnt of Protestant ism.— ( lear, and laughter ) The policy of Cromwell was explained by one word— extermination; and it wa: in his time that the Irish Rowell Catholics were offered the agreeable alternative of Heil or C.ntitt,u4ht.—(Hear, hear.) 1688 Ir.l aid gained nothing by, ih.- Efighsh imoortation of a Dut,th alonarch but persecution; and Witham 111., in his last speech to Partiameet, a lid lie h iped that all distinctieue in his kingdom would cease except those hetwe, tt Papists and Protestants. Passing over the various penal enactments adopted, he mentioned as a remeikable tact that Bishop Mant excused them not only as being for the security of the Protestants, hut al q:, for the hPretit of the Catholics. When he reflected on such an excuse he could not help exclaiming— " 0! tortivatos nitnium, aua si bona norint." —(l4Rughter.) In 1723 a Bill was passed—and he wtoild chal , engo the production from the arnals of any other country of such an Algerine Act—by a c Huse in wtich it was attempted to degrade the &Anita Catholics to a level with the slavish guardians of a Mahometan harem. They all knew how the union was effected; they knew that union votes were bartered fur Irish bishop rics. and now, after a period of 300 years, this Protes tant Church in Ireland, notwithstanding its receipt of great revenue end possession of political supremacy, stood very much in iho same position as at first, though be granted that the clergy bad improved. They might revile the Itutmin Catholics as beggars, but they could not taunt them as apostates, for their•creed they had re ca►nt d through famine, pestilence, and persecution; and Ireland lay hk•. L rams at the gate, whilst the Estab tished Church, like') yes, was clothed in purple and fine linen, the highest orders in the institution feasting sumptuously every day.—(Hear, hear.) He meant no reflection on the clergy of the lower classes, but he im pugned the system under which they were ministers. But it might be said that there was no persecution in the present day, and why then make any altera tion when the Roman Catholics were loyal and con tented? Was this so uniformly the case ? Why, he found the Protestant Bishop of Waterford stating, in another place, on the sth of May, 1849, that in the last year, out of a population of 80,000 Roman Catholics in a district, only eighteen persons became special con stables; while out of a population of 5,000 Protestants 280 persons became special constables. He (Mr. Osborne) therefore came to the conclusion that there must be something which prevented the Roman Catholic population from being attached to the present system. The Hon. Member here referred to a letter written by Lord Clarendon a*read in the House of Commons last year, relative to the indisposition of the population in certain districts to support the authorities in their at tempt to suppress rebellion, and observed that if he were to ask those Hon. Members particularly connected with Ireland why this was the case, he was sure their answer would be, that it arose from the circumstance of full justice never having been done to that oountry; and from England persisting at all hazards in maintaining this deformity of the Protestant Church.—(Hear, hear.) He knew that there was a large and respectable party in Leland who meant by "justice to Ireland" t id o en i t i i ) iy of insti t u t i ons i n respect to b ot h countr i es. He ta dissented Eton) that doctrine, which he regarded as a tallucy. Chi misforturie was that they had endea voured to suit the English law sod English notions— the result of long prosperity and of the habits of the English people as a c.iromercial nation—to Ireland. In so acting, the Goverrment took for example the first political economize of antiquity, Procrust, s, and had en deavoured at One time, by p, nal laws, to stretch the Ca 'hobo conscience, aid at another . to cut abort the meant, of the I. it-h people by regulations applied without re• terence to their I. etinge an i eustorns.—(hear.) It was most extraordinary that this prt.ceice was uppli d to Ire land alone. Scotland retained all fur native !midi utionr, civil:sod criminal. England trit.d to saddle her Kill' bench of bishops and an English Church, but So, flaw; ref ustd to hare them ; end he oeserse i that 1.230/. a year was voted to the Scotch Episeepalien clergy, wince money no Scocchman refus.d to receive, beeau e, as h. supposed, it was spent iu the couetry.—(Laughter.) The consequence of governing- Scotland through the sentiments of nationality and affection was that Scotland was quite an inexpensive neighuour, and required the presence only of two thousand soldiers at the existing tune —(Hear, hear.) But, on Ireland An elicen laws we're imposed ; Irehand had not one naive institution, except the constabulary, introduced by the Right Hon. Gentleman oppo s ite ; it had a rich Protestant Chtireb; rind while the Presbyterians received the Regius Loeurn, the 'Liman Catholics were neglected. Tne cuussqu nee wise that in Ireland an army wu,sre quired ut 50,000 men, ilicluiing pensioners and police. Would it net, there be more wise to rule Irelanci,as Scotland wayruled, through the sentiments of nationality and Oft-edit/1? %Vas this system of Protestant ascen dency worth the motley paid for it?—(Hear, hear.) Lord Lansdowne once asked whether Ireland was intended for the benefit ut the Church, or the Church for the benefit of Irelieod,and he ( 11r. Osborne) should be obliged if the Home S..cretary would answer that question.—(Hear, hear, and a laugh.) What were the use and object of a church establ shinent? The Prime Minister had ex pressed an °pieties - that a church establishment was not to mouton , ' the offspring of the clergy in wealth, but that it was intended for the spiritual instruction of the pette!,. aril th. Undar.Seerotary for the Ilome De parttnent, in a most able work on the influence of authority in matters of opinion, expressed the sentiment that a Government in deciding the ques tion of endowment must look to the numbers of the persons constituting the religious denominations. The Bishop of London likewise said that the ques tion, whether a church establishment was to be main tained, was to be only answered by another, namely, whether it impeded or promoted the spiritual improve ment of the people? The Hon. Member here s a id t h at he was willing to place the question on that ground, and observed that it was curious to ace, when th e ex p ansive nature of Protestantism was talked about, how the Ro man Catholics had progressed and how the Protestants had diminished in Ireland, under the influence of the Established Church. Ile here referred to different ac counts of the proportionate amount of the Roman Ca. tholic and Protestant populations in Ireland at various periods since 1672 to 1841; observing that during that space of time the Roman C at h olics had increased as 7 to 1. He proceeded to say that it also appeared from the report of the Com m i ss i oners of Public Instruct i on i n 183 7that there were 9benefices with less than 20 Protestants in each; 124 benefices having between 20 and 50 Protestants in each; and 41 benefices without one single Protestant. —(Hear, hear.) A most fallacious way of viewing this question of the amount of Pro testants in Ireland was to refer to the report of the amount of church sittings in that country; - for in the uhur c h w hi ch he attenee d t h e num b er o f s i tt i ngs was put lows a t 200, though ontv2s persons attended.—(Hear.) Ie the diocese of Lismiire there were several parishes in %filch tIL re were no Protestants, and in one parish the r...cti.rial tithes were paid to a very fine eirl.—(Leugh ) In smith, r place (Churchtown, we uudersroi d the Hon. Member to say) the rector rent to church to preach •we day, and he found a goose hatching eggs in he poi oit.—(Renewed 'aught. r.) In the diocese ut Oetury it might be expected that more Prittest , .uts wou d be fount' there, as, with the exc• poen of two large estates, the property there was held • xclusively by Protestants; but Mr. Sergi-ant Shee, in his t " Ott the Church of [hire in 1. - eland in relation to the State," related that In :he incumbency of Cail.n, y fielding 2.197/. ts year, he observed that the chapel of the R. v. Mr. Mulliegs and the chapel.of the . Augustin Friars were fully run need, but that the congregation in the pari:ti etc 'arch consisted of 87 persons only, many of them cniL3ree, and 10 sol tiers quartered in the town, and who could not be Wien firming part of the regular congregation.—(lle ar . hear.) The Hon. Gentleman said, that for the spiritual •re of the 853,000 Protestants in Ireland, thew Nv re tanle.herl two Archbishops, ten Hisaops, an d 2 770 clergy. The value of the Archbishopric of Armagh . was more than 12,0001., and of the other Archbishopric j istflYo 7,G00 1 , a pion The Bilehop of Ciogher had I B 0001, ttn , l the liFsh4p fl 1) , .!I , T' 3 .3,0001. 74rd the eic -rn 4 , 1 65s sTiii? i tjA leuk , t; to v - . 111.• Mt! It:•:1 pt L. for the Of=hops. or the gl be houses ter the elerg). By another return he found lb it the total church lands in Ir,4and einoureed to 776 384 aorta, would give a very la7 g ., annual rerital at only 11 per acre reat Besides , Li„ he (.Ir. Osborne) Iseke up at Dehlin LTeiversity as heir s/ brseeh, or sun in. yearn, ia i the Cherie.. f hen there was t • b e eel's :sari ea th e to , sbo% 0 3 000 0001., we understen') eel van sti by Puritanic tit since the union. —(Hear, hear.) " But," said an Bon. Gentlemen the other night, raking the argument of the Primate of Ireland, whose word he represented as better than another man's oath, "Itis a delusion, a clsptrap• to call the It ish Church wealthy; divide the property equally awing the 2,200 clergy, and they would have but 2001. a year apiece." The curates were never called upon in the regulation of church revenue—(Hear, hear) . —but when the obj ec t was t o m ak e out the Church pe verty-stricken then we heard of them—(Hear, hear)and an expectation was raised which it was never in tended to fulfil, and the cry was, " See what it will be if these poor fellows get their rights"—which the par ties had not the most remote idea of giving them—' (Hear, hear)—making the statement merely to delude the House; he (Mr. Osborne) did not mean to say that of the Hon. Merr, bar, but he believed the Primate, in spite of his respectability, did purpose to delude the public.—(Hear.) But was that the proper way in which to put the question ? Was not the right question this.-- what was the necessity for having there 2,000 clergy men, and whether it was not highly expedient that the number should be reduced to the level of the wants ef, the people ?—(Haar, heir,) In France, with some ; 30,000,000 of Roman Catholics, the revenue of theits Church was about 1,500,000/. The Presbyterian . Church of Scotland, which Adam Smith described as . most effective in improving the morals of the peoples had 58,0001. a year in his time, and had now nearly 200 000/. ; but would that give 2001. a year to each nister ? In Ireland, for 800,000 Protestants, there were 1,643 benefices, a staff of 2,200 ministers, with a state: provision of 680,0001., and for the ministers of the 7,000,000 of Catholics nothing at all.—(Hear, hear.) Was not the exclamation of Lord Carlisle justified, that there was la Church without faith, clergy w ithout flocks, the worst gains-of the sinecurist kept up upon the worst' principles of the bigot ? There was a material difference between "a good Protestant" in England and in Ireland. In England that term meant a good "family. man," who went to church, gave alms, and conducted. himself in a decent respectable manner.—(A laugh.) In Ireland " a good Protestant" was a phrase ar plied to a man who continually reviled the Roman Cs.' tholic faith. In Elizabeth's time the " good Protestant'; called massacre and spoliation planting religion and lizstion; under the Commonwealth he was a man who, would bring back the t e r rors o f t h e O ld Testament and totally forget the mild doctrines of the New; after the Revolution be added another article to the Thirty-els° —" The glorious, pious, and immortal memory." People who would probably hardly find one other point 01 which they agreed joined in hating Popish doctrines and loving Popish property—(A laugh)—and these descen• dents of Cromwell's troopers and William's mercer ries, in the present day, wrapped up their cause with the Established Church in Ireland.—(Hear.) In touching ire question of sthe property of that Church, he (Mr ; o,berre) was aware that he should be told it was sacred. That was always so; but this cry of " s ac& lege" was set up at the Reformation vvi•is much b e tter pretext than now. M. n somehow confounded the it spi: ritual eontoctions with their worldly interests.—(Hear.) But there,wa. no analogy bet tt tan corporate and private property. So said Lord Chancellor Brougham, add' tog that the Church received its pr:.prrty for the pet' tornitinee of c rtain set vices, whereas private propsrl was held unconditionally. and that toe pay of the army might as well be cill-d as that of the Chun:l!! Mackin/4,h might aleo be quoted. Warburton laid 11 down that the strive might resume what the state gave' No Minister had ever stated in that llouse that there was au analogy between corporate and private property —(Hear, hear.) flow were the prec, dents? I n 173 2 , Parliament took the tithe o! agismeut,—i n 1833 a b o lishrl vestry cess and ten bishops. Why not go a step further? —(Hear, hear.) In Cauada, alter the rebellion,--be; happily we never did any of these things till blood bad flowed—(Hear, hear)—we toek the Clergy reserves, a?d though by Act of Parliament they were devoted to th e Protestant Church, part of th e m was now g i ven f o r le° sustenance and payment of the Roman Catholic clergy And who consented to that? The Right Hon. Members for Ripon (Sir J. Graham) and Tamworth (Sir R. Peel)/ and the Bishop of London. Let the precedent be applied to Ireland.—(Hear, hear.) An objection would be made based upon the sth article of union. •Surely it was most ill-advised and impolitic thus to hold out to the Rowse Catholics of Ireland a premium to induce them W agitate for the repeal of the union. —(Hear) But, In fact, that article merely said that the two Churches wer e to be united in government, discipline, and faith, Be d made no mention of the temporalities of the Irish Church/ and contained not one word which prevented Parliamen t from interfering with that Church, which was a thing their own creation. Even if it did, we had already tered the 4th article; was th e s t h more sacre d? Tn 4 Right Hon. Baronet (Sir R. P ee l) rea ll y di spose d o f tu z , point, when he asked, " we are convinced th a t the su eial welfare of Ir e l an d requ i res an alteration of the 1,e,„ and a departure 'from the compact, are our legitla t ' s v o functions to be so bound up that the compact i s to maintained in spite of our convictions?" adding that be,' for one, had never b een prepared to say that.—(Hearq It might perhaps be insisted that we ought not to inter fere with the temporaliti. s of this Church, because ob e had the exclusive possession of religious truth. That as" gument, to use the words of an Hon. Gentleman (n Disraeli), was " an or g a n i ze d h ypocr i sy. " If the princ ie was good for anything, why not extend it to Canada, thy Punjaub, Malta, Labuan, and carry your dogmatic the °. logy there ? But with more wisdom than s mall; men shrunk from the application of their argumen t ' which would dismember thi s mi g h ty (=Fire in whic h every race claimed tolerati on f or its creed.—(ll"l4 hear.) We heard much talk of "Protestant principles . .. What did gentlemen mean by the t erm ? Did t h ey meth persecution? Then he (Mr. Osborne) was no Prater_ tant.—(Hear.) If there was one P ro t es t ant pr i nc iple II should do well to act u p on , i t was t h at wh i ch was con . . es oursecreted e r a t t y the t h ß e ef r e ig rm ht ati o o f n, p a r n iv d at t e o i nt.wuhdigcmh ewe—owed er:li (Et He did not see how those who talked so loudly of this could say that we Protestants had exclusive religion' truth.—(Hear, hear.) He had now to ask the House to go info Committee " to consider the present state of tb e , temporalities of th e Ch urch of Ireland." lie was no' ioirig so with the view of abolishing it. All useful re' toms mu , t b. feusded on mutual compromise.—(Hear. near.) Neither did he wish to interfere with the exis t : eto tights or v, sec d ,nterests or the pr• sent i ncum bent" —(Hear, hear.) But he toked the House to go 01 1 Committee for the pugs se of geeing if t h e y col a devise a plan by w hi c h the congr gational system Could be curried out in Ireland insteal of the territoria l .s. (Hear, hear.) In one &Geese in Esglend—Chester j Int, bishop till lately presided over 1.500.000 of people to the Establi-hr d Church; in Ireland tpo archhlsh , ps and ten bishops presitied over 800 000. 111 England there was 0110 bi.tiip to 412 Letietic,s, to li e ' i..nd to 138. lie had no willl tir scheme to propose ; he would have one aichbisbop with 4.00 0 a year, aud reduce Via tf-n hish Ts to tive. with 2 0001. a year. itch.— (Neer. hear.) T he Right Hen. Boone: (Sir G. Grey) could not impugn the moderation of ' proposal. Lard J. R ussell toad the House in 1844,---" concur in theplay, play,pronounce,' by Dr. Wh a i e ly, t he ; Archbishop of D u bli n, for making the Iri,h Church church of coogregafions, not parishes ; " adding, .bat though he thought the Protestant Church ought its b e provided f ur , h e d i d not believe that any thing till; the amount now a ll otted to it was necessary.—(gese-; table the hear.) He (Mr. Osborn e ) a l so proposed to lay on following resolution :—" That it is the opini e ; of this Com m i ttee that any surplus whichms remain after fully providing for the Spiritus instruction of the members of the Established Churcri, in Ireland oug h t to be applied locally , the gener a l e d ucat i on of all classes of the people. (Hear, hear.) He had only to add, that he would We/ the Government not to think that the present s tate 0 2 Ireland was one which a ff or d e d them any great grove' of satisfaction. Much had been heard from them when in opposition of large and compre h ens i ve measures to be passed for Ireland; but what had they done? They had suspended th e H a b eas C orpus Act and altered the Poor Law; and taking the example of the man who elr. deavoured to feed a st arv i ng d og w i th the produce o f own tail, they had passed a rate in aiel.—(A isugh.„! They had lately ottain e d a bl oo d less triumph, crush i ng agitation, and paralyzing all political feeling for the Pr e ; sent in that country; but let them not imagine tits; putting down the tumult raised by a mad enthusiast bed taken away the feelings and sympathies of the nation! (Hear.) Let them not be led away with the idea tbk the present dull silence, proceeding from famine and de:• spair, was the result of happiness and content.—(Heat') Let them not urge " that this is not the time;" let 0 0 . ° gladly seize an opportunity p resented to them by Previ denee, and boldly put thi s quest i on, which they had ov er and over again said lay at the root of Irish heartburnift, and discontent, on a looting which their former repute' tion demanded.—(Cheers.) Mr. REYNOLDS seconded the motion. Mr. MOORE said that he was bound by his oath to d° nothing to subvert the Church as by law established In Ireland. The Hon. Member , after adverting at sore° length to the p rov i s i ons of the' Catholic oath and to th e position of the Established Church in Ireland went 0 .. t: I to say that the pr esent was no new subject. t was:: old as the causes which gave it birth. He had read the speeches of all the distinguished men of the present dl on the subject of th e I r i s h C hurch, and it had surprised him that not one of th e men to whom he had allu d e " had ventured to maintain that the success of that oyste r° had been commensurate with its objects. He the2n. alluded to the speech of the Right Hon. Gentleman the Member for Ripon (Sir James Graham) in Me, and 16 ; the speech of the H on. M ember for Oxford, both ° whom maintained that ehurch property was the same t is private rroperty. W ere the present a question of love!_: millions of men living seven thousand miles away, P' :olio be dealt wit'. dill . ..ready, but the question con ct rued seve n mi ll ioni of Mtn at their door s , a nd was not . a so much a question of humanity as one o f p o licy 012 1 , justice. The pr os p er i ty an d t h e peace of Imlay:. euebt to be erj et . o f the most serious i m portance..., and he beli eve d t h at not hi ng could exceed the enor mity of the a b use of the Is n,tl Church. Th ey h a d never con ' 'forted an y put of the nation in th e i r attempt to itcP„ e d 'se the Catholic Ch urc h Is. land. 'I h e y :lever suc ceee iti isak,ng proselytes, although armies were put in req u es . -1,1.11, met elude districts had been depopulated. W 0 io he heard Hon. Gontlemtn deft ni t tng C h urc h p ro perty . _,_ Irelenri. • e .sot bele Al.king wh et h er , i t their UPI; was as clear us it was vicio us , t h ey cou ld s h ow a ref.. particle of alias to lb& present Church temper t Eon. M. tab: r it atilt on to show the relet.',,, tiroportion which the Protestant population bore to the Catholic in the several provinces in Ireland. He biC l3 O 4 puci tap in eight parishes in the tittNetill 91 . Tel hp I,oi ~74 May I, ‘‘,' Geniletnn Why he h The Hun, tnisP, but titid I hal tho Roam will recto- Um, ant Mr Salte i Sir G ben quot 0 Say, .