The Sun. — London, England, 1828-06-07 00:00:00

P 7 l' late IF If Looul w r He which 7 ` which, it cens ssr : Qin' two le Pe r " exceP l o e the P r l le mot pl o ut of $, non it ' a t e it 1 1 . 4 • divi J uppPr` ty eetsge. ite. le the Pl uv . o rovi•qi ,v ° n °o ii i to e , r be cent. iv e To, g g a leo eyo -hick onven iet ' ci t i a. Ile l as ed f o r ge Asi , e d to °I b le his S ° i , He I. awe 4keo bie It Voi ee OJ the ' 1 0 a irai e*lY ' the F 0 9 41 ,ying ser` v i 0.00.1 oi ed to ! t n cO l5 ' i er " • the N ai ' Life. V WI tSge°'' i° Ashford! titiou fJrr tents 0 1 ft * one of Itkone Vestry Bill. Oa 1110 question that rho amendments .be read a seemed time, Mr. ASTELL objected to the second reading of the amendment, on the ground that no case whatever had been made Out against the vestry. When first this Bill was in troduced it was said that the select vestry were guilty of all Li nde of malversation, and unworthy of the trust a "..1 confidence of the parishioners. This vestry had h '"n eetahlished itv Act of Parliament for sixty-two years, when. there was not one-tenth of the inhabitants that there nog' are. This was nothing more than an attempt to overcome estehliehed rights against the opinion of a great Porti on of the inhabitants. 'there was a petition, it was tree, in favour 'of the Bill, but very few of those who `'geed it were inhabitants. Sir T. BARING was not surprised at the statement Mad e by the Hon. Member, as he was not a member of e Committee. He.had a great respect for different rosin hers of the select vestry, but so confidence in them as a body. H e spoke as an inhabitant of the parish. In the enurti e of twenty years they had incurred a debt of 221',0001.; in the course of a few years the rates had increased 50 per c "tt, and though they had an income of 150,000/. Year, they had still incurred a large debt. But he c'hjeeted to this vestry on constitutional grounds. He he i'vred that an irrtxponsible vestry of this kind was a de pirture from the principles of the Constitution, which uo thing but en imperious necessity could warrant. The 110 n. Member was very much misinformed if he thought that the inhabitants of Marylebone approved of the vestry ; 4 t all events there was a very extravagant expenditure.- 4, 9.5/. yeas charged (in 1811) for a perambulation, and the Port . , and sherry, and meat consumed at the perambulation were carried to the account of the poor. In 1814, too, the Vestry borrowed money at 20 per cent., and paid off bonds at par. They built a chapel without any esti mate, and when it was half finished, called upon the archi test to pull it down and hnild a church. These charges Were all proved against the veetry, ough he admitted that. t here were many others not sa t ti h sfactorily proved. In furnishing the Church, two thousand pounds was charged 'or velvet ; two hundred and sixty-one pounds for velvet for t he communion table; 1501. for velvet for the clerk's ` a "k ; and 213/. for two chairs. Ile really thought the op e himself might be found a chair for leas money. Was 4t necessary for him, after what he had stated, to reptett that the Select Vestr y of Marvlehone bad been guilty of malversation. They had involved the parish in a mtbt of 2 0 7,000/., and increased the rates 50 per cent., '°d this, -with an income of 150,000/. a year. One cir "cnatance more he considered worth mentioning. They t vanted a picture for the church which they had built, and 4 4liet1 to Mr. West, the artist, to paint one for them on atnelin. This, which they intended for a transparency, t hey had the good taste and good sense to place where there ' , es no light behind it. (A laugh.) They might have h ail this picture for about 100/., hut in their extreme Jibe t4lity they had thought proper to give SOO/. He would ,ttt object to make a present of 700/. to a deserving artist, 'ln they should recollect that it was taken out of the P i ttieta of men who could net afford it. He recollected a Noble Lord at a County Meeting bad said, that the Na *mill Debt was a mine of wealth to England; he sup kited the Hon. Member wculd argue in the same way for th is parish of Marylebone. The parishioners had made ttveral appeals to the Select Vestry ; they wished that "Neu alterations should be made in she system ; they had 'l'Pliel to have auditors appointed who were oat of the This the Vsettry had peremptorily refused. They qt ld no course left het to bring the matt e r b e for e th e ftse. He hoped the /louse would agree to the amend 'test a & Mr. ROSS defended the conduct of the Select Vestry, sad observed, that the Hon. Baronet (Sir T. Baring) bbd been greatly misinformed. The debt teas 40,000/. hiss ciao had been stated by the Hon. Baronet ; and the in -4141e was only 100,000/. instead of 150,0007. as stated. in , 4141 e Perambulation Bill and other things he admitted were 'r ry foolish ; but these had been done many years ago, 4114 1 the present Vestry acted in a much more econn 'tient manner. There was nothing corrupt or illegal, t hough there might be something extravagant. There *ere seventeen Members in the Committee who voted ;r the Ed), and nine of those had never heard more %art a word of the evidence; and of the other eight, only rear attended, the other rim, attending . one night. It %toad have been much fairer and more candid to have attacked all vestries. Mr. 110BHOUSF—One of the Hon. Gentlemen had *al, that there were no complaints against the conduct of Ute Vestrymen. What then watt the original cause of going 1 4 ,t 0 a Committee on the Bill—what was t h e t en d enc y o f "PE evidence given before the Committee—or what was the ll: waning of a petition signed by five thousand individuals? yet the Hon. Gentleman had the hardihood to say that -1.455 e,„ 5,000 individuals were nob o dy. Even on t h e estate the Duke of Portland 500 persons came forward—all "'enpiers of hour on his Grace's estate, who all petitioned 4alast the Bill, sad in favour of the p resen t me asur e . H e t y , muld allude to the extravagant expenditur e that had been P y r °Yed. He should merely state what all admitted, that a 2 1 try was in existence in the parish of Marylebone, who w ere themselves the conetituente of their own body_ t e mselees the distributors of the property of the parishioners, ,7 hi d them se l ves the au dit ors of th e i r own account s—that eltly six thousand inhabitants felt themselves aggrieved, vltd called upon the House to remedy th e ev il. Th e Hon. ttithrr had asked, why did they not attack all Select entriee ? And the Vestry themselves, on the other band, ;; 4 Plained that in attacking them, they did attack all— tat any step taken a g ai ns t them would be but th e sub 'rilion of the constitution of all Select Vestries. He (Mr. ti ldiontet) candidly confessed, that on entering on the pre ineesure, he did it with a hope of reforming the syt,-- 'n generally ' He called upon the Hous e no t t o a ll ow a (elect, irresponsible body to proceed in the wasteful I ,Penditure of the public money contrary to the public 411 . 1 . The Mon. Member, in alluding to the Committee, r : 11 said, that of the majority of 17 to 5 who h a d vo t e d it T the Report, nine Members had not a tt en d e d to h ear t~e evidence ; but he, perhaps, forgot that thos e were ) k " very persons—his Honourable Colleague, fu. ex ,!tat Ale, who bad protested against hearing evidence at 11 49 t o t a ll y unneessary. It they themselves—the I'vLitotit able Member, and tw o ot h er mem b ers o f the Vestry, 40 were on the Committee —th at would enter into no r', 4l prornise. The honour of the vestrymen was attacked -1 required an investigation, and they have it , —(Hear.) —Independent, however, of the nine 'misers who had not attended the Committee, there was (..Majority of b to 5 in favour of the report, and of those Ilk 49 he before said, three were vestrymen:. He would p t .the Worse whether, in respect to the hono ur o f t h e l''''Ynaen, they would refuse to hear the amendments read. i t , W as Objected, that if th e proposed course was ad opte d , i t ,'"Uld be an open vestry. This was not the case; f or , o ,_the app o i n t ment o f a new vestry, a third only would be o,,,nged annually, an d t h at i n the quietest of all ways—by Shouldanv further alteration be found necessary, t t ti'as easy to make it in rea di ng t h e amen d m ents ; b u t , c) thought it __ was quite bnittelent that a great majority I t nplaioed pf the present System, to induce the House rat er , lto those complaints. If they refused to hear the ti; i t ndonents read, they would reject tile just complaints of '4 4/4 T populousitv of the most extensive and most pa in the ling,loru. Ir. G. SMITH made some observations, whi c h w e re ' 44 41.4udible. q i Nonel BAGLEY contended, that the debt incurred by Pari , h of Marylebone was comparatively trifling when t s ' i tiParell with its income, and lees tu proportion than th e 'a m of other parishes when the relative incomes were 0 41- cd. The Select Vestry of Marylebone was one of host conducted Vestries in the Ningdom. ,4- MEMBER, who spoke from under the Gallery, teen tiont the whole of the charges against the Select were unfounded. i ty ,"t t r- HUME said, the Vestry had received au income of Q 4,000/. i n t wen ty years. Th ey h a d agree d to build A p t :tirelt f or 19,000/. and sub sequently they re b u il t th e 4, la at an expense of 7,500/. There was a charge of for velvet fo.• an altar-piece. How then could it be )) that they were not extravagant ? 'e t 4t PHILLIMORE was opposed to th e Bill w hi c h 'ten the principle of popular Annual Ele c ti on , k it was little better than annual confusion in the parish. tte, OWEN said that if quietness was desirable in ,it I ? 4 tisli, the House would agree to the Bill. RARING said that he had no objection to th e lite,44l.lztittal of the Bill, if that would obviate the objee -11;0 i t. NIABERLY spoke in favour of the Bill. 1 4wi, BURDEIT said that the annual popular election z 4 t o g been adopted in a neighbouring parish, and found flood vt, it was not s ur p r isi ng t h at M ary l e b one , see i ng th e alto, fr ente of such a system, should desire to obtain it ant ~o moderate were the desires of the parish that they 4 4 4 ';hed to hav e s o m e sma ll contro l over t h e manage - O „ their own funds. H e cons id ere d t h at i t was abso e4t4 w4. e-essary to agree to the present motion ; but if the ittl y t u , "rnwu out on this principle, it would be perticu- Sht° Th ? gers were ordered to withdraw. Recite then divided, when there were— "r the Amendment 105 4likinet it BB Thf, 8111 was co] :113j ority. .• , qtly Low Jrmlueutly . it. BULL BAITING. :‘11.• LIT BULL rose, pursuant to notice, to preterit • petitions from several bodies of his constituents against the practice of Bull Baiting. The Hon. Gentleman proceeded to state, that subsequent to the passing of Mr. Martin's Act, the Magistrates throughout the country took up the idea that hulls were not included in the term cattle, than which nothing could be more absurd. They held the . phrase to include the female of the species and the steer, while they believed the adult male, the bull, to he exempted from the benefit of the Act. The petitioners, consequently, by their petitions then in his hand, prayed for a legislative enactment to protect that .animal, and to put an end to a practice at once brutal and brutalizing. He had, however, very great doubts respecting the propriety of sup pres4ng that practice by any positive enactment. In his opinion, the safer way would be, to leave the subject to the progressive extension of education and improved feeling. The Hon. Gentleman then presented the petitions, which were from the c hurchwardens and principal inhabitants of Dardaston, in the county of Stafford; from Wednesbury ; and from Walsal, in the same county. Mr. W. SMITH supported the prayer of the peti tioners. Sir JA:IIES MACKINTOSH presented a similar peti tion from the Minister, Churchwardens, and Inhabitants o f West Bromwich. Sir J. NEWPORT fully concurred in all that had been said on the subject by the Hon. Member for Staffordshire, and cited the case of Waterford, in which the practice had been terminated by the resolution of his predecessor in the representation of that city. Mr. J. BENETT followed on the same side. Sir J. WROTTESLEY also concurred in what had fallen from his Hon. Colleague. The petitions were then severally - ordered to he printed. Mr. C. ELLISON presented a petition from the bitants of Newcastie,upon-Tyne, praying for the repeal of the Act which prohibits the circulation of One Pound Notes. Mr. CIIOLMELEY presented a similar petition front the Inhabitants of Spalding. The petitions were ordered to be printed. Mr. Secretary PEEL laid upon the table the Reports of the Commissions issued by command of his Majesty for inquiring into the State of the Law respecting real pro petty and the common law of England and Wales.—Or dered to be printed. Mr. GREEN presented a petition from certain Planters . . in the West Indies, praying for compensation in the event of the abolition of Negro Slavery.—Ordered to be printed. ALEHOL'SE LICENSING BILL. Mr. WYNDHAM presented a petition from New Sa- Juin against the Alehouse Licensing Bill. Captain BASTARD presented a gimitar petition from Clifton and Dartrnnuth. SMALL NOTES. Mr. H. BATTLEY presented a petition from Beverley against the Bill for suppressing the circulation of 1/. notes. STEAM PACKETS. Sir H. PARNELL rose to present a petition from cer tain persons, residents of Liverpool, who had formed them selves into a Company fur the purpose of supplying steam packets for the conveyance of pacsengers between Liver pool and Dublin. The petitioners stated that they had embarked a large capital in the undertaking, which had turned out profitable ; and having•heard in 1826, that it was the intention of the Post Office to traasrnit a mail to and from Dublin, via I.iverpool, they proposed to carry the mail across the sea for a moderate charge. The Post Office, however, refused the tender, and at au expense of 70,9091. built four steam packets for the conveyance of the mail on account of the public. Previously to that pe riod the petitioners received two guineas from each pas senger for his passage, but in consequence of the competi tion of the Post Office, they were obliged to reduce their fares to 275. each, upon which the Post Office advertised that they would convey passengers for 15s, each—by which competition the petitioners incurred great loss, fur which they now sought redress at the hands of Parliament. The Hon. Baronet supported the prayer of the petition. Lord LELGRAVE supported the prayer of the petition. Sir J. NEWPORT also supported the petition, on grounds similar to those urged by his Hon. Friend (Sir H. Parnell). Mr. L. FOSTER said, the subject was one of very great importance to the House and the country, because, he believed, from the course pursued by the Post-office, and complained .of by the petitioners, an absolute l ave of 10,000/. per annum resulted to the country. It pleased an officer of the Past-office to have a fleet of his own rather than have the mail carried by these private vessels; yet, notwithstanding all his exertion.., the trade of carrying the mail was a losing one, in consequence of a want of passengers. . The interests of all pai•tirs might be mann modate4l by abolishing the mail system between Dublin and Liverpool, and transferring the large Liverpool steam packets to the Holyhead station. Mr. HERRIES said, the person in the Post-office alluded to by his Hon. Friend had been strongly accused— too strongly. He could not let such accusations against a meritorious officer go out without requesting the House to suspend their judgment until the facts should have been ascartained by inquiry. Mr. V. FITZGERALD dirt not think the person in the Post-office alluded to was culpable in this matter. He could not, however, deny that much mismanagement ex isted on the subject. lie conk' not but condemn the practice of the Government competing with a private com pany. - After a few words from Mr. ROBINSON, Mr. DAWSON said, the subject was one of great im portance to all connected with Ireland. The statements relative to the management he thought quite over coloured. There could not be a better officer than the gentleman alluded to. He should inquire into the truth of the state ments,, and endeavour to• provide a remedy. Mr. L. FOSTER explained. Mr. CALCRAFT eulogise(' the conduct of Sir F. Freeling, but condemned the system of opposing private capital by the funds of the Government. The transfer of large vessels to the Holyhead station would be very bene— ficial to the intercourse with Ireland. Mr.HUME thought it strange this expenditure, so ex travagant, of the public money, should have gone on so long unchecked by the Government. The late Chancellor of the Exchequer was much to blame in the matter. Mr. HERMES defended himself against the imputation of neglect on his part.—The petition WM then brought up, and ordered to he printed. Sir IL PARNELI. mover) for Returns, shewing the expences of the Poet off c e Packet establishment between Dunleary and Lirerpool.—Ordered. MARSUALL presented a petition from Leeds, praying the Abolition of Slarery in the West Indies ; and another from Guildersome, in the county of York, againo the Burling of Hindoo Widows. Mr. SPOTTISWOODE presented a petition from the Borough of Salt-ash, against Catholic Emancipation. Mr. CORDON gave notice for the Member for Dum fries of a petition from certain Merchants of Edinburgh, praying an inquiry into the state of the people of colour in the West Indies. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved for a Return of the number of sovereigns and half soce• reigns issued from Jan. 1821 to Jan. 1828. Mr. ISANKES wished to have an account of the num her of small notes issued by the private bankers; he appre hended they formed a considerable amount. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER did not think it practicable to get an accurate account from pri vate bankers. Sir E. KNATCHBULL thought the private banker, would have no objection to give an account of their issues. Sir N. W. RIDLEY was sure that the number of bankers' notes issued was much leas than had been stated; au exact account of them could begot only frc the bankers themselves directly. . Mr. HUME conceived that bankers ought to be ob liged by law to give an exact account of their issues. The returns were then ordered. Mr. ROBINSON moved for returns of tke number of civil actions and criminal informations tried in the Supreme and Circuit Courts of Newfoundland and Salvador, within a given time. —Ordered. The Second Reading of the Cities and Boroughs Be gistration Bill w 4B postponed till Monday. COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved that the House resolv e itself into a Committee of Supply. Mr. DAVENPORT asked, whether it was the inten tion of the Chancellor of the Exchequer to propose any re duction of the duties on tobacco. He understood that most of the tobacco consumed in Ireland was smuggled, in spite of what was humorously called the Preventive Ser vice. The reduction of the duty by one-half, namely, is. 6d. a pound, would destroy the illicit trade in tobacco, and increase the revenue by a million. The CIIANCEI.LOR- of the EXCHEQUER declared that it was not his intention to propose any reduction, Mr. HUME suggested the propriety of the Chancellor of the Exchequer taking a large amount, SU PP 4 se half the Irish estimates, by one vote, on account at present, a nd postponing the discussion of the items until there should be some officer in the House connected with the Govern- ment. In the absence of a Secretary of Ireland, there could not he a satisfactory account of several of the items, many of which he intended to oppose. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER declared his intention to take no unfair advantage of a Secretary far Ireland. He would not put forward the Education Esti- mates on this occasion, as they might meet some opposi tion ; and as fee the vete* for clzgrit A bl t ipstitutions, he did not expect any objection to them an the part of any Hon. Member. Mr. S. RICE thought the Hoarse ought not to discuss the Irish Estimates in the absence of a Secretary for Ire_ land, as the votes on Charitable Institutions involved points of debatable matter. Mr. BANKES was understood to say, that the entire cure of the estimates might be voted on the credit of the Chancellor of the Exchequer accounting for them, as he was answerable for the appropriation of all. Mr. V. FITZGERALD considered the Irish Estimates like other items of public expenditure, to come within the superintendence of the Treasury Office. Sir NEWPORT thought it impossible to go into the details of the Estimates under the present circumstance s , ' and it would therefore be much better to take a vote on account. Mr. DAWSON said, that if the House would go into the Committee, it wa.s.his intention to pro l ose the Miscel laneous Estimates, an d th e A rmy Extranninfiriew, end it would not be likely that the Irish Estimates would come on that night. The House then went into a Committee. Mr. DAWSON bad new to submit to the Mouse the first number of the Miscellaneous Estimates, which in chided the votes for public buildings. The whole sum amounted to 319,26.5/., being an increase upon the Esti mates of last year of 41,2041. The increase was occasion ed by an additional sum for the British Museum and Wind.. sor Castle. There was another additional sum of 7,000/. in which every Member of the House would be interested. It was for finishing the Committee Rooms of both Houses of Parliament. When Hon. Gentlemen considered the convenience already experienced by the addition of the library and other rooms, he was sore there would he no objection to snch a rote. He thought also that the House would agree with him that the most essential part of the library was still wanting. They had a handsome and con venient room, and indeed every thing necessary to a library but books.—(Hear, hear.)--It was a stigma upon the House that it had no collection of hooks of reference upon general subjects of historical and literary reference. It was too late to propose a vote now ; hut he hoped another Session would not be allowed to pass, without this want of the House being supplied. He moved a grant of 20,000/. for defraying the expence of public buildings. Mr. S. RICE wished a grant of 500/. or 1,000/. for books to be voted at once. Mr. BANKES said, that there would be duplicates at the British Museum, in consequence of the addition of his Majesty's library, which might be used by the House. Mr. BRIGHT expressed his great satisfaction at the prospect of having a library attached to the House. Mr. HUME said, that as be understood there were soon to be some vacant Ordnance offices, in the Tower, the pub lic records might be sent there.—(A laugh.) He thought a well supplied library highly desirable for the use of the House, and there was a person who had hitherto had the care of that which they possessed, whose services, must be known to every Mon. Member, and who, he understood only received the inadequate salary of 100/. a-year. He was not likely to propose any extravagant revenue, but he thought this a case in which the House ought to make some provision for a valuable servant. The SPEAKER was anxious to bear testimony to the highly useful services of the individual to whom the Hon. Gentleman had referred. Every Member must have felt the zeal with which his duties were discharged, yet they were very • scantily remunerated. But from him he bad heard no complaint. With the exception of Sundays, and for about a fortnight in the year, he had regularly attended in the library from :in early hour in the morning until four o'clock, and during the whole of that time discharging his duties with a diligence not exceeded by any public servant whatever.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. DAWSON had heard with very great satisfaction the recommendation of the Hon. Member for Aberdeen. Sir M. W. RIDLEY also bore testimony to the indus try and intelligence with which Mr. Spitler discharged the duties of the office of librarian to the Nouse. Mr. Secretary PEEL upon two former occasions had appealed to the House in behalf of the State Papers which were amongst the public records, end which he thought it highly desirable should no longer be left in their present, state. Their value was incalculable to history and litera ture in general. He could himself bear testimony to the merits of Mr. Spitler, and felt sorry that so deserving an individual should have had only the trifling remuneration of 1001. a-year for his services. He hoped that now an adequate compensation would be bestowed upon this gen tleman. Mr. BERNAL supported the proposal of an increase of salary to Mr. Spitler. Mr. ABERCROMBIE hoped that the Right lion. Gent. would never have occasion again to appeal to an Eng lish House of Cosninons for a receptacle for those docu ments which were so interesting to the history, the credit, and honour of the country. Mr. MABERLY thought that an office in the Ordnance Department, which was fire proof, might be applied to this purpose. Mr. S. RICE said that there were other persons in the State Paper Office entitled to great praise. He particu larly alluded to Mr. Lemon. Mr. HUME rose to ask a que_stion respecting the mosey expended upon Buckingham Palace. The sum voted for this structure was vonsiderable. The palace was nearly built, and it was a matter of surprise to passengers to see that it was now being pulled down. Now he rose to ask, what expence had been incurred, when it would stop, and who was to be responsible? A Noble Lord (Goderich) when he was Chancellor of the Exchequer declared him self answerable. He (Mr. H.) hail suggested that a Committee should be appointed, that they might have some persons answerable to the House and to the country. His Majesty, it was evident, was not responsible. The House was anxious for some responsible persons; but they had been deceived, as they often were before, by taking the word of a Minister. Mr. BANKES was then about m read an extract from the report upon public buildings, when a conversation upon the point of order arose between Mr. 1-ferries, Sir R. CAburne, and Mr. Bankes, and it was decided the extract should not be read. The Resolution was then agreed to. A grant of 7,000/. was then agreed to, fur the purpose of carrying on the works in Port Patrick ; as also a grant of 8,000/. for carrying on the works of Donaghadee boor ; as also a slim of 20,000/., ibr the works of the harbour of King George IV. at Kingstown. BRITISH MUSEUM. ► Mr. DAWSON, in proposing a grant of 4'3,G001. to the British Museum, begged to account for the amount being larger this year than last. The library his Majesty placed at the disposal of Parliament in 1828, required. a number of officers to attend to it, whose salaries, Sac. wele 40001. The salaries and expencss had been for the last five years paid out of the grant for the building. Now, however, it was necesssary to pay the building bill, and it was for this the money was wanted. The grant would be augmented this year by an additional suns for building, but which would be the last. Mr. HUME wished tr. know whether the librarians of the British Museum could not attend to the new library ; or whether it would actually be nee4i.sztry to keep up two e,•tablishmints. Mr. EANKES replied that so large an ;addition of books required additional librarians, Mr. BRIGHT said the room appropriated to the new library was the most splendid thing of the kind he had ever seen, and did honour to the country. He was glad to see et the Museum two or three large rooms set apart for per sons inclined to read. When he was there he saw numbers of both gexe , , engaged in the quietest and most interesting manner passible.—(Laughter.) The vote was then agreed to. A grant of 40001. was then proposed for the offices, Sze. of the Privy Council. Mr. - HUME asked whether this suns was to complete the building? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER rep l ied. that it was. Sir M. W. RIDLEY had reason to know that a most enormous expanse had been incurred by the furniture of that office. He wished to know if measures bad been taken to prevent a sy.tem under which that had taken place from being pursued farther. Mr. BANKES said, that measures bad been taken to stop the extravagance going on. The vote was then agreed to. WINDSOR CASTLE. A sum of 180,000/. was then proposed to be grantNi to defray the expenee of the alttrations and improvements Of Windsor Castle. HUME.—I wish to ask whether the sum now pro posed to be voted to defray the expence of carrying on the works of Windsor Castle for the ensuing year will be suf ficient to complete it, and also what progress has been made in the building. In the days of our prosperity we had a God-send—(Laughter) -.-a part of which, half-a-million I believe, was appropriated to the very purpose for which we are now called on to grant 180,0001. 'I he origh_al esti mate for the repairs was 644,0001., but we have now granted a much larger sum than that estimate. Will it suffice for all the alterations proposed to be made ? If not, we ought to have some estimate of what the ulterior ex pence will amount to. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER.—As am officially responsible for this tote, and am 7ie of the Commissioners appointed to superiA4l4 this brsuch of our expenditure, I feel myself bound to give the Honourable Gentleman the explanation he has asked. Five hundred thousand pounds were at first thought sufficient to defray the expence of all the requisite repairs of the Castle. In the progress, however of the works, it was discovered, that in order to carry into effect the expressed object of Parlia ment in granting the money, and in order to accomplish what was due to the character of the country in preparing a residence for its Sovereign, not less than 644,0001. would be required. To this we may add, which will be necessary to complete the work, a further call of 50,00 W., making a total of nearly seven hundred thousand pounds. In stating this, I may be asked what were the data on which the original estimate was formed. To this I reply, that Windsor Castle was net a building to be raised from the ground, in which case the expense can in general he accurately ascertained; but to be repaired and altered. In the progress of the repairs the timbers of many parts were found in a state which rnaele it surprising that they had so long upheld the weight placed epon them. Any Hon. Member who has been down to view the works, and has seen the old timbers lying about, will agree with me that it was in a state of positive rottenness. The replacing of the decayed beams greatly added to the expense. There were circumstances also respecting parts of the foundation which augmented the expense. There can be no doubt that our money has produced one of the most convenient and splendid palaces that a Monarch te a r inhabit. It may be placed in the rank of those buildings which will be the pride of the country, and which will not fail to attract the notice of every one, foreigner or native, who has a taste for architectural beauty. Sir M. W. RIDLEY—I have great pleasure in corro borating the statement just made by the Right Hon. Gen tleman opposite. Every thing has been conducted with the greatest possible economy, and yet the most beautiful result been produced. I myself was at Windsor eight or ten days ago, and examined a room on the north side of the Castle, into which the Committee of Taste had been a few days before my visit. On that oecasion I was informed that the ceiling of the room had fallen in, and completely exposed the rottenness of the timbers. With respect the furniture of the Palace, to which the Hon. Member for Montrose had alluded, although it was necessary in the first instance to furnish the kitchens, yet, I believe, that nothing more will be required on that accou❑t. At some future time, it is impassible to say when, more money will be wanted to make the Castle complete. Mr. F. LEWIS—One great cause of the necessity of the expense now incurring, is the total neglect the Castle has suffered for some years past. It has now, however, been repaired most admirably. The Hon. Baronet (Sir M. W. Ridley) has stated, and it ought to be fairly stated to the country, that the money voted cannot possibly put the Castle into complete repair. The north front only as yet has recaived much attention ; but it is impossible for any one who has examined the building not to perceive that the western part also requires repair. It is impossible also to look at the terrace without seeing that it ought to be carried round the whole. The buildings also, which have en croached upon the Palace, ought gradually to he removed. I our now looking to what the principal Palace of the Sovereign of this country ought to be. I trust that we shall not abandon that building in its present state. Mr. HUME—I cannot, for one, permit the statements made by Pion. Members to pass without entering my pro test against them. It is well for Hon. Members to talk of a splendour befitting the residence of the King. Let them do so. But when they say every body must be satisfied with that expenditure, when they ask, can any one object to it, I reply, that millions will be dissatisfied with it—mil lions will object to it. Twelve hundred thousand pounds will not pay the expenditure that Buckingham House and Windsor Castle have put us to. Yet does an Hon. Mem ber talk of carrying round terraces. When the vote was first passed, by which it was proposed to build a palace for the King, I stated, and I repeat it now, that it was much better to build one at once than to keep paying 60,000/. a year, which we have done for forty years past, for repair ing old ones. What are we now called on to do in respect to this palace? After paying 611,000/., we are told by the Chancellor of the Exchequer that 30,000/. more will be wanted—and it is intimated by Hon. Members that the whole million will not he more than sufficient. The Crown of England, Sir, does not want such splendour. It is importing from France the frippery that disgraced France at a time that England prided herself on her honest plai❑❑ess. But this, Sir, is not the only thing we hare emulated, a❑happily for us--a taste we formerly despised. Look, Sir, at the livery of our soldiers, clothed in gold, to purchase which thousands must starve. Look, Sir, at every public servant, all wear dresses covered with gold. (A laugh.) I say, Sir, this is not suitable to England. It is a disgrace, Sir, to us to see the crowds of beggars pro. duced by such extravagance. My feelings, perhaps, Sir, carry me farther than I - wish; but at any rate I must enter my protest against the gold lace, which seems so much to the taste of the Committee of Taste. (Laughtkr.) I am told, Sir, that the gold lace has been so plentifully used, even on the chairs of Windsor Palace, as to make each cost from one hundred to two hundred pound , . (Cries of No, no.) I shall be happy to be corrected if I ton wrong; but such is the information I have receivaal. If, however, I be Wrong in this, as a matter of detail, I am right when I assert—tor it is before the House—that the furniture of the Palace has cost 167,000/. This, Sir, I really think too much. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—It is my innertion to finish off the works now carrying on as quickly as ie compatible with the convenience of his Majesty, and with a due regard to public economy; and, this done, I shall he extremely cautious how I engage in any new ex.. peeee,_(lfear, bear.)--With respect to what the Hon. Member has said, relative to Windsor Castle, I cannot concur in his observations. The improvements there deserve any thing rather than the title he imposed upon them, namely, frippery. For, certainly, nothing can exceed the solid grandeur of that palace. I do not know for which it is most to be praised, its beauty, magnificence, or solidity,— (Hear, hear.)—When the Hun. Member talks of the ex pence Windsor Castle has put us to, he should recollect that tle:t is the only palace ever built for the Kings of England. Whatever other residence they have had, hue either been presented to them by a subject, or purchased from one. With respect to the furniture of Windsor Castle, it must be remembered that before what was lately sent was placed there it had scarcely any furniture at all. His late Majesty, during a long-continued war, was anxious to avoid adding ti) the burdens of the country—(Hear), and forbore baying any comforts of that kind, which time did not absolutely destroy, replaced. This conduct im posed on his successor a heavy expence : it created the very necessity which we are now called on to meet. Mr. lIITME—The Right Hon. Gentleman has said nothing with respect to Hampton Court. I wish to know whether Le intends to keep it up. I beg to take this opportunity of stating that I do not object, nor ever have objected, to a suitable palace being provided for the Sove reign. But the question is, has the money we have granted produced a suitable palace. The one in London is a dis grace to every one connected with it. I wish, Sir, I could say that his present Majesty had something of the taste of his father with regard to expense in matte's that appear to me to have been pursued by him in u maneer more conformable to the English character. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER--I hav e stated to the H o us e a p er f ec tly goo d reason w h y i t should incur this eeposee. I have shown its necessity. In this House , t l B not necessary for me, a Mi n i s t er o f t h e C rown, i to speak n defence of my Sovereign. In this country the h ear ts of the p eo ple will a l ways i n d uce t h em to entertain juster opinions of the conduct of their King than seem to be enterta , nod by the Hon. Member for Montrose. The Ihm, Member may charge us with beingacceesary to great expense, to keep unziecessary splendour on the part of the Crown ; but he ought to remember that his Majesty has not been want ing iu acts of liberality to the people.—(Cheers.) This night we have all cordially concurred in a vote for the sup port of the British 11iuseuna—a vote for the people ; ered ye t, on such a night, the Hon. Member takea occasion to charge his Majesty with extravagarree, though, if he were to set the one account against the other, there would net be foetid so great a difference. I will not, Sir, pr o l ong t hi s di s cussion, be cause I am sore that the feelings of every Can, tleman in the House must s ympathise with mine. Mr. Secretary PEEL---Sir, it is impossible for me to hear the observations made by the Hon. Member for Mon trose, and not to protest against the introduction of the name of the Sovereign. The wise rules of the House forbid the introduction of the name of the Sovereign at all. But higher motives ought to have influenced th e Hon. Member, and have forbidden hint to introduce the name of the Sovereig n , for the purpose of charging him with an act of extravagance. That name ought only to be intro- I duced as the patron of all good institutions, the promoter of the arts and sciences, and of the welfare of the country. —(Cheers.) Mr. R. COLBORNE had an opportunity of going over Windsor Castle lately, and could bear witness to the improvements made as fully justifying the expense. Sir M. W. RIDLEY entered his protest against the sentence of condemnation passed by the Hon. Member for Montrose on Buckingham Palace?. It would be in the re membrance of the House that the same reproach of want of taste was urged against Regent-street, built under the su perintendence of the same eminent architect, whose fame would last beyond that of any temporary roan. That street, it mist he acknowledged, could not now he excelled in Europe, nor in the world. With respect to the situa tion of Buckingham Palace, be had reason to believe that the imeariveuience was fully felt, hut his Majesty, frau) an anxious solicitude not to the metropolis, de. termined not to have the Num.,: .s. Colonel DAVIES couhi ,c, the praises be stowed on Buckingham Palace. y li` those who built the palace originally were deserving of praise for building the wings, what was io he said to those who had pulled them clown ? Blam e must f a ll somew h ere, and as long as it stood it would he a monument of the perverted ingenuity of man. What could be said for the hideous winare tliznes at the corner of each wing, or the eggcup stock on the top of it? The man whc. could execute such a build:ng w as only suited to disgrace the metropolis. Mr. iIUME—I beg, Sir, to make a few observations with respect to what bas fallen from the two Right Hon. Gentlemen opposite, who have thought proper to address me in a tone which I cannot think my remarks warranted. I beg them to understand, that if I know any thing of the disposition of his Majesty, so far from showing any of the indignant feelings with which they have achlreseti me, he would, I am confident, have been the first to pay attention to the statements I have made. I asked the Right Hon. Gentleman to what expense we were likely to be led into by this building? It was a regular inquiry, which I seas perfectly justified in making, for I hold the Right Von. Gentleman responsible for the money we are now votircr. Then there only remains one other expression which the Right Hon. Gentleman can 'have a shadow of pretenceflir • charging as improper. I only regretted that the taste of his present Majesty—and I did not say it dLsrespectfully, nor mean it so—was not of that simple, chaste, old English kind, which I considered most consistent with the charac ter of the English nation. I am not aware that I said more than this ; and I do not think that that gave the Right lion. Gentlemen any just reason to bestow on ice the lecture they did. If, when Ministers propose grants to parliament, Members cannot olueet to waste and profu s:on, there is an end to our liberty —to our freedom ofjudg meat. Such a lecture, though the Right lion. Gentle man be a leader in this House—(Laughter) —was not, I think, deserved by toe, for having mentioned his 31ajesty's name in the delicate way in which l did.--(Laughter.)— If I said any thing out of order, I might have been called to order. - I only said what I conscientiously thought, in the most delicate manner I eould.—(A laugh.) If there was any thing in What I mid the Right Hon. Gentleman considers unpleasant, I beg to say it was quite uninten tionak—(Cheers.) Mr. Secretary PEEL said, lithe lion. Member had oc casion to prefer a charge of any kind it must be against the Ministers, and not against the Crown. He certainly did not think (so we understood the lion. Gentleman to ass') that the Hon. Member had used the expression inadver tently; but the subject we- one which Lad better he dropped.—(Hear, hear.) The resolution was then agreed to. A vote of 7,0001. for works and repairs connected with the two Houses of Parliament, for the year 1828, was then agreed to. Mr. G. DAWSON, in answer to a question from Mr. Spring Rice, stated that this sum was on account of former repairs, under-pinning old buildings, &c. the actual expense of which had by so much exceeded the estimate. After a few words from Mr. Hume, Mr. A. Dawson, Mr. W. Smith, and Mr. G. Dawson, 2,500/. were voted in aid of the expenses incurred by erecting churches in the West Indies. On the grant of 19,413/. 13s. to defray the expenses of the Commissioners for Howth Harbour and the Holybeed Road, Bridges and ,Tolls, for 1823, Mr. A. DAWSON took occasion to express his regret at the appropriation of so large a sum as 2,500/. (the last vote) for ecclesiastical purposes in the Colonies; while, if application were made by the gentlemen of Ireland—(hear) —to the Government for grants towards the expence of public works in that country, they were always told by the Minister that tbeiTt. was 710 money in the treasury.— (Loud cries from all sides of the House of Hear, hear.) Mr. G. DAWSON apprehended that the Hon. Gen tleman must have been utterly inattentive to the business which had been transacted in the Committee, or lutist sup pose the Committee itself lo be asleep.—(Cheers.) --It did happen that while the Hon. Gentleman took occasion to make this estre.ottlinary and unwarrantable chars-. against the Government of England, fur making no grants on ac count of Irish improvements--and this, too, a charge founded on the last vote of 2,500/. oulY, which was already disposed of—it did happen,whirnsically enough, that no less than four several votes on account of Irish improvements, public works, &c. amounting to 35,000/. had been that evening agreed to.--(Loud cheers.) After a few words from Mr. V. FITZCEaai.n, ie H. P.sttNx.r.r., Mr. SLANEY, and the CmaNencioa of the EXCHEQUER, in corroboration of the Hon. Secretary's statement, the vote was passed ; as were also these voles -1,7.52/. en account of the works at Dunmore, for 1823. 15,000/. on account of the Penitentialy at Illilbank. from 2•4 th June, 1828, to the Slut December. Sir. 1117111 E wished to know whether there was any in tention of abolishing this prison ? Sir. Secretary PEEL observed, that while it was im possible to deny that the expenditure on account of it had been very great, the Hon. Gentleman would allow that the maintenance of 600 prisoners for six months, at a charge of 10,0001. (for the cost of erecting the prison was now extinguished) was not immoderate. SirJ. WILO rrE6I.EY, Mr. Ross, and another Liao. iieni_ ber, concurred in this view of the subject, and the grant was agreed to. On - the question of g rantin g 16,18 V. to the Society for the Propagation of the Gospel in Foreign Parts, Mr. lIFME was sure that fifteen-sixteenths of the people of Canada would oppose this vote. lle propa;ed this year to reduce the grant one-half, and next to atop it altz gether. He therefore moveal, that only 8,0001. he voted for this purpose. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that the object of placing the distributio n of this grant in the hands of the Society in question, was to secure it unifor mity of system with regard to the religions instruction of these Colonies. Mr. MONCK opposed the grant. Sir R. INGLIS supported the grant. Sir T. ACLAND thought that the house would do great injustice in acceding to the motion of the Hon. Mem ber for Aberdeen. After a few words from Mr. HrMF, Mr. MoNcx , and Mr. LA IiOUCITERE, Mr. HOBHOUSE said, he should vote with great re luctance against this vote. least it might be productive of inconvenience to the Ministers in the Colonies. But he hoped the Chancellor of the Exchequer woald,give a pledge that the grant should be reduced nest year. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER szid he could not give such a pledge. Mr. S. WORTLEY could not recognise any vote fur this purpose, where the religion of the majority was not the dominant religion. Mr. lIPME proposed that this vote l;e post;laned for fourteen days, in order to give time to the Finance Com mittee to examine and report upon this question. The CHANCELLOR cf the EXCHEQUER could not accede to thi, poposal, The Committee then divided on the amendment to post pone the vote. For the original motion ...... Against it „. 26 _ _ _ Majority ,. —79 The first amendment, far the reduction of this vote mu half, was then put and negatived without a division, and the original question carried. _ The nest vote was 372,199/. for tile Col/min/164 De partment. Mr. FLUME thought this estaldishrLent was too large. Thu Colonies amounted to 4 17,0ii0/. There were 2,905 soldiers in Canadd, a: - ..41 there were 47 commissaries at., tached t.ct thoa, being one to every 62 ; and for these the was an expence of 11,0001. a-year for salaries. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER observed, that with r:•gard to the exponce of this vote, it was really a saving-, inasumth at a superior rank of commissariats had been chosen for this service, because it took them off the half-pay list. With respect v.:the number of commissariat officers, it was to he borne in mind that the troops in the Canada; were spread over a large extent of country, and therefore required a larger Commissatiat. Mr. maintained that there sv4s no duty per.. formed by the Commissariat Officers in that country which could not as w e ll b e per f orme d b y any Serjeant-Major. The CHANCELLOR o f th e EXCHEQUER observed, that although th e num b er f or Canada might appear great, yet, when it was recollected that all the accounts were to be kept by this person, it was but barely enough. Mr. (1. DAWSON said the experiment lad been tried, and the number of Commissaries reduced, in 1821. In 1822 they were 172 ; but in consequence of complaints they were again increased, and the number was now 190. These persons had not only the stores, but public works, army extraordinaries, and the military chests, to take care of. They were the best cheeks on the outlay of the public money. After some further ob servat i ons f rom M r. HUME, Mt. VESET FITZGERALD, and Mr. HERRITS, the question put by the Chairman, when Mr. HUMS objected to 2501. for advertising. Mr. HERMES slit!, that as all the benefits arising-from competition were looked for, advertising was the only mode for ta,,t purpose. Mr. aysiE then Ajocted to the salary cf the Agent, his Deputy, and foul Clel„,, r.i.l of whom hat.] 1,40). n-year. 1 . The quection was then put, and tte vote was agreed to. Mr: HUME expressed a wixh for adjournment, as there was only the Army Extraordinaries to be discussed. 1 This, however, was not acceded to, and the question was put that a sum not exceeding 810,0001. should be granted far the Army Extraordinaries. Mr. HUME wished to kruiw wkether the staff of the general officers was to he kept up. Mr. Secretary PEEL was understitod to say that a re duction was contemplated. Mr. HUME then remarked on the expenditure far the Militia. Staff in Guernsey and Jczacv; and said, that in IL! latter island the expense was incurred against the with.* of the inhabitants. Mr. Secretary PEEL said, that by the constitution of those islands the whole population were to he trained to arms; and that, considering their position, it would not wise to interfere with that provisiu,n. The total number amounted to 5,000, divided into the regiments, with an adjutant, who had only three shillings a-day pay. If a military force were to he kept lip there, it was better to have it kept in order ; and he, therefore, did not think the expense of the Staff could be considered extravagant. Tho clothing was, heretofore., given in Guernsey once in ten years; in Jersey once in five; which was now enlarged to once in Seven, and then runt to take place without an appli cation to the Secretary of titate. 'flrie system as alto gether the most economical possible. Mr. HUME said, that the people of Jersey stit-re dis pleased at the introduction of this system, es they held it an honour to serve without pay. fie had received com plaints from the island, and was hound to - state them. Sir. Secretary PEEL had received, he -beliewad, the same complaints; and through arrangements made, saquiry had taken place, and two Military R e p or t s o f t h, Generals commanding in the Islands had entirely nega tived ',hem, and approved of the present systero..' After some further observations 'van this stehjeei,' and the expence of the Mauritius, Mr. HUNIE asked wby the nation was called upon to pay 195,0001. - , for the expence of the Comrui,aariat i. Portugal, which, it was understood, was to be repaid by that Government Mr. Secretary PEEL said that the Treaty bound tha. Portuguese Government, bit the Prince Rent there OA not appear at present able to pay. Mr. HOBII01.7S1 7 .: thought measures onght to he to :11 for the fulfilment of the Treaty. Mr. HUME then observed that Captains of King'isbips ought not to have charges allowed for the conveyance. of specie, more particularly as the sailors gat: nothing. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHF.QUth said t.fLs allowance was not attietle payment, and that the Ctiptairi Lad the whole responsibility, as he tyac to make good any deficiency thatoccorred by the abstrartiari of atiy of the money, and that had sonietitnes occurred. On Mr. HUME'S asking why Captains were not afim responsible for any lass of the ship's store, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHUQUER that a doubloon was much more easily purloined than a caliJo. After some further observation irom Mr. Httarr:th e vat.- was agreed to. The House then resumed, the Chairman reported Ft , .ress, and leave was given to sit again on Ithmti OFFENCES AGAINST THE PERSONS' PM On the motion of Mr. Secretary PEEL, tl,e )t;lei c,f the Day for the third reading of the Bill for Offences atria., he Peraon was read. Mr. W. SMITH complainNl that the Bill did not quiii c:ently prosect children from the cruidties to which were too frequently exposed; and for the porpoc=e of re medying that defect, he wauld move a clause to iorlict and imprisonment upon persons injuring children to such degree as to endanger their lives either by violent as&ault.. painful and unwholesome imprisonment, or dpoying surfi— clent sustenanee. Mr. Siecretary PEEL said, it would not he the effect of this Bill to take away the remedies heretofc,ie enjoyed under the comma:. law ; it merely went to con. , olidate th, statutes relating to this subject. On thei , grounkL4 should feel bound to oppose the introduction of the claus. - ' A short conversation then ensued, in whieli Mr. BATT LET, Mr. MARTIN, Mr. W. SVITH, and the Sot terror, GENERAL, participated. The clause wa.s withrlr,twu, ar.A. the Bill read a third time and pa..•;a v d. The other Oiler of the Day were theu dispose'', of, :.ad the 'louse adjourned at IL:If-past One o'clork. ----- Lin OF 1 . 11 F. :ill NOII /le TWV)ITT-TIGIRT woo N °Tun ON 1111. 111 . )1 PONli TWA GILINT Or, .e, Iff,lS2 're TP. stiCll biATION Or 'lli LS GOzzPal. IN roaincu PARTS, Ahercromby, Right Lumley, J, S. Hon. J. Maberly, J. Benett, JohrA sJartio, J. Brougham. Henry rlonck, J. B. C. IL 0, Norm,toby, Viscoun t Lite,vs Col. Palmer, C. Fy...he Dawson, A. Pendarvex, S W. ()rattan, Henry Ponsonby, Hon. G, Grattau. James Rust:ell. J. • Guest, J. Smith, W, flophouse, J. C. tWaithtrual, Ala. NOTION TO 1•0%i - MT }On THS - Wilbraiuun, `Webb. Col. . _ Warburton. Wro Lte.,,L?y. Sir Wcxxl, A Li. Wood, J. T GI LER. ~~IILIP~ ,lp;p~~~, 1-14‘ OF THE AHNOFtITY CF POITY.NINV. I,N A4VOr2 Or SIR .1/AIRS SIOTTON, " That a Select Committee b appointed, to inquire into tha state ot the elroulation, in Promissory Notei under the Vai oS 1., .&5 in England, land to report th e i r o h servationi and °la ;lion thereupon to the with reference to the expediency of making any alteration in the law.) now in force relatine thereto." Astlev, Sir J. Bell, 'M. Baring, Sir T. ttright, H. Bench, John Bankes, Buck, W. jinni:lett, Sir Francis Calvert, N. ('live, Visct. Corbett, Pariton Chohneley, Al. J. Cotterell, Sir J. Dawson, A. Dickinson, W. Ilavenport, R. n, Euston, Earl of Enr,istnore, Lord Oulu., Sir W. float:vote, G. 3. Fiume, J. Howard henry l Kemp, T . i t. Keck, G. A. Let-b Kcnnedy, 'l'. F. Liddell, lion. fi. Lloyd, Sir F. P. Mil Hank, M. Moberly, J, Marjoribanki,, S. Martin, 3. Marti:, J. C. O'Brien, W. S. Powlett, Lord W. Palmer, C. F. Pendarves, E. W. Rob3rt.,, A. Smith, S. Smith, T. A. Sibthorpe, C. D. Slaney, Mite, Hugh Thompson, All. Vvvyan, Sir it.. NC'lithroan, AIJ Wood, All William 6, Six P. Wodehouae, Webb, Col. Wrotteley, Sir .f Attwuod, Graham. Sir SPIRIT OF THE PUBLIC JOURNALS, The Miscellaneous Estimates came on last night,-and th.? grants for Windsor Castle were brought forward. To tt; it appears indecent and improper that the furniture of the ho u ses should be discussed —that is, it winulecenz and improper that the Ring should not furnish his housP+ as be pleases, and pay for the furniture himself, from th)t ordinary grants for the support of his dignity, a s every. other gentlem an p ays expenses of this kind cut ofin come, without burtheniug his; estate. Repairs of national palaces are matters that exceed the ordinary calculation, and the expenses are properly defrayed by the nation ; ho the upholsterer's bill for the house is pretty much like the tailor's bill for the person —the money to discharge bar\ should be drawn from the settled inc.orne.—Thries. The grant to Mr. Canning's family came last .night before the House of Lords, and was moved, with propriety, by the Prime Minister, the Duke of Wellington. Vk suppose his Crate has by this time found cut, that if there is no tl.ber merit in the civil officers of the Crown, there at least that of supporting incessant labour, and of d • sacrificing tiansgotplipeoisedr by sn T rf ee b pe %g t r: l,,, n ,i: t r , ma Ni t •e in, w oolf e ,l r e e fnr s .jae u nn r d p: a.. : s s eip.ortal , Daffe, and supported with the well as the c7, - 4 .ergy of kindred uce tal th e e ni, ly :y or Lc c ir We mint amain appeal to the fact, that pensions as duns!) , as their titles wer e given to Generals t fought in LI:- Peninsula : whereas for Mr. Canning's family ther e is ;Th l • required a p ens i o n f or on e of N w o h.th in s ia u t c rY li ha ng i l) e-Ni s s i ted tsPi:=o .i. Os are entertained, as that which now rules the destinies of this cuuntry. The Duke • of Wellington has been generally reporteel to be an honest and straight-forward man; but his confessrd incapacits . — with the secession Qf those of his Colleagues who were tu f6r a t l i i ' l e ter o al ffi p c ol e b of rave cast a ") s u lt P a i d f‘ e l which it will be extremely difficult, 4' o kl i o n n o f st i e 7n is t i o n b te b y e n i t f ) i r i n i nl en s :d l lll — • indeed it be ever possible, to retnore. The utmost effors to retain Lord Dudley„ Mr. Char/es Grant, and when., in the Cabinet, or rather to bring them back to it, have been used,,, bait in vain ; and a strong presumption arises in consequence that these gentlemen must have seen something in the policy which wax to be pursued, both foreign and domestic, not altogether it accordance with that which they deem essential to the wed fare of the country. We should be glad to feel assured that no cause existed for such s uspicions; for at the present moment our foreign policy is in the most delicate state, and nothing, we feel assured, but union of sentiment can pos sibly save the country from the expenses and miseries of is war ;. but a diolution of Parliament and the stable Ali- Morning Advertiser. , r i i n is l t y ry re xt n • l h e i: l ;h_ u wo u u d ld t l L lC e ati r s e a m ri e( ly iy hvi,:eapfpelaire:i --- It is; hoped that the Licensed Victuallers and others, from whom common informers have extorteit mo ney, without delay, bring the parties to jogtice. RS a duty which they owe to the pOilic. If they decline, thi. informers will recommence their attacks with increasKt activity. At present, they have desibsed from laying in formations, for the purpose of conciliating those who h; : v e suffered from their extortions, and are engagni iii all directions, endeavouring to oLtuin fcr,fivepess.—Mori, Aciwertiver, ¢~:~i8-era:. ~; "~;y . t s rk• - ‘ ,- 1 , ~ 1 1 1 )