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MORNING SUN IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. THE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY, OCTOBER 2, 1841. DISTRESS: Mr. GIBSON presented a petition from Manchester complaining of the present distressed condition of the country, and praying the House for relief. COMMISSIONS IN THE NAVY. On the Order of the day for the bringing up the report of the Exchequer Bills Funding Bill being read, Lord INGESTRIE said he had intended moving for a Return of all the Commissions (with the names at tached) signed-by the Board of Admiralty, since the 4th day of June last, up to the issuing of the patent of the present Board of Admiralty, distinguishing those Commissions signed after the 30th day of August ;1 also, Return of the Ships put in commission during the same period, making the like distinction, and of the probable date of each ship being ready for service ; but if the Secretary to the Admiralty had any objection to grant.it, ho would not press the motion. Mr. S. HERBERT said it was nut usual to grant such returns, and it 'Might create an inconvenient precedent. Lord INGESTRE would not press his motion.—Mo tion withdrawn. , . EXCHEQUER BILLS FUNDING BILL. The RePOrt on the Thichequer Bills Funding Bill was then 'bronght , up,• 'and the Bill was ordered to be read a third time to-morrow. • EXCHEQUER BILLS BILL. The 'Report on the Exchequer Bills Bill, with the ap propriation clause, was brought up, and the Bill was ordered to be read a third time to-morrow. POOR-LAW COMMISSION. On the Order of the Day for the third reading of the Poor-law Commission Bill being moved, Mr. FIELDEN rose to snake the motion of which he had given notice, but the Hon. Gentleman spoke in so low a tone, that it was perfectly impossible to hear him. We understood the Honourable Gentlemen to say he believed that, as the persevtrance of the late Administration in continuing the Poor-law was the cause of their, downfal, • so would it also be the rock on which the present Government would split if they continued their resolution to carry it out. The Hon. Gentleman quoted the opinion of Sir J. Scarlet; (now Lord Abinger) and other lawyers as to the unconstitutional power of the Commissioners. It was in his (Mr. F's.), opinion, a tyrannical power, unsuited to the tastes of the people, and he would never consent to it. - He could not understand how such an unconstitutional authority should be sanctioned by the Constitution of England. The Conservatives ought not to forget the great exertions they made on the late elections, and that they owed much of their strength to the feelings of the people against the new law ; and he wondered that so much disregard was exhibited to theircomplaints on the subject by the present Government. The Hon. Member proceeded to state the number of petitions in favour of the amendment of the law, and the number of those presented against it, to show the degree of public support which the measure had received. He believed the local boards, being better acquainted with the actual state of the poor, were far better qualified to administer relief to them than any central authority could possibly be. If the owners of property had discharged their duty there would have been no necessity for this law. The people were not to blame, nor were the old laws to blame for it, but the owners of property. He knew it was said that the poor of this country were idle, and that they had no one but themselves t o bl ame. f or heir dis tress. He rebutted the charge. It was a libel on the character of our countrymen. The labourers of this country were the most industrious is the world. Having had seven years' experince of the Commission, whether the House were able to judge •of • it he did not know, but the people of this country thought they were able to do so, and their opinion was that their acts were oppressive and unconstitutiot al. The conduct of the Commissioners had been so arbi trary as to make the law much worse than it really was, and obliged even the rate-payers to complain of it. It appeared to him that the condition of the poor had been gradually deteriorating under the operation of the present law. It was no later than that morning that he had received a letter from Manchester, stating the deaths of two persons from actual starvation and the horror of a workhouse. He thought these were cases requir ing immediate investigation. The Honourable Mem ber proceeded to read a comparative table of returns from various parts of the country to show that, under the present system, there had been au increase of mortality ; but he spoke in so low a tone that we could not catch a. sin gle statement with any degree of distinctness. The Hon. Member c o n c l u d e d by moving that the Bill be read a third time that day three montris. Mr. S. CRAWFORD seconded the motion. Sir C. DOUGLAS thought that the Hon. Mem ber for Oldham ought not, upon the third read ing of a Bill for the continuance; of the Commission, to have entered into a general discussion on the subject of the Poor-law. He understood that the Government would hereafter bring the general question under the considera tion of the House; and he thought it would be factious to oppose them upon the present occasion. He should add, however, that he disapproved of many provisions of the law, although he did not think that was an occa sion for urging his opinions. Captain PECHELL was glad it was not necessary for him to enter at length into the reasons for voting with the Hon. Member for Oldham as well as against the third reading of the Bill. He never made it a party political question. He had more than one reason for voting against the Bill. He conceived it gave the Right Honourable Gentlemen opposite more power than Was necessary. Hid Pullen - telt met in the month of November there would be no occasion to renew the power of the Commissioners.—(Hear, hear.) His next reason for .voting against the Bill was that the Right Hon. Baronet the Secretary fur the Home Department had stated that the Biil would not interfere with the Unions under the Gilbert Acts, but he (Captain Pechell) would undertake to say that the Poor law Commissioners were unceasing in issuing rules and regulations to those unions. These rules e and regula tions prevented the poor people from going to Church on Sundays, and made their confinement much worse than those who were shut up in Chelsea, and other hos pitals.—(Hear.) The Commissioners had only left those unions the power of getting out-door relief ; and their rules and regulations gave dissatisfaction to the guardians, the rate-payers, and the receivers of the rate. He considered these strong grounds for limiting the power of the Poor-law Commissioners.—(Hear, hear.) They had not ventured to issue such rules and regulations for the place whi c h he had :the ho nour to represent, but they had tried •to impose upon them a paid chaplain, whom they refused to pay. Those unions were interfered with by the Poor-law Com missioners, and he considered it his duty to oppose the continuance of the Bill. He considered these reasons good and valid for opposing it, -and he would on every occasion express his opinion against it whenever the mils- ject was brought forward. Mr. BORTHWICK begged leave to make a few on.. servations. He had been sent to that House unpledged, and he thought it on that account the more incumbent on him not to leave his vote unexplained. He did not entirely concur with the Hon. Member for Oldham, be cause his objection did not lie against the administration of the law, but struck at the root and first principle of the Bill. It was stated that the object of the Bill was to create in the minds of the labouring classes the most important of all social virtues—inde pendence. But he considered that the effect of the Bill was directly the contrary. The Bill proposed to invest dependence with so many repulsive characters, that the most miserable independence would be preferred to it. But it made no distinction in the application of the principle between the industrious. and high-minded peasants and the idle and dissolute. On the contrary, the law treated the man—who might be actuated in his humble sphere by as noble an ambition as that which the Right Hon. Member for Tamworth I avowed a few evenings ago to be his governing principle—as a criminal. He entreated the Govern ment not to pledge themselves to any party in the House on this question, but to give it the most cautious and solemn consideration. The next principle in the law to whittle he objected was the principle of centralisation—a principle which took the management of the interests of the poor out of the hands of the Magistrates and local authorities and placed it in the hands of a Commission sitting in the metropolis. The principle of centralisation was liable to this further objection, that it invested the Commissioners with unusual and Unconstitu tional power, thus creating an imperium in' iniperio. The reason why he voted against the amendment of the Hon. Member opposite was. that her Majesty's Government had appealed to the • House for its confidence, and had asked for a short time to enable them to mature plans of a general nature. He (Mr. Borthwick) gave the Government his fullest confidence ; and on these grounds he should not offer any opposition to the course which they had propOsed to adopt. Mr. C. WOOD was ready to admit that the decla ration which fell from the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Dorchester was, that he would adhere to the general principles of the measure, and he felt that those who had to administer till the next SeSsion of Par liament were entitled to such a declaration to enable theM to carry on their duties in the manner they ought. He thought .it would' have been - eereedingly unreason-, able to press for any further statomeni of the lani •of the Government, so that they might . .be perfectly un fettered to consider . any amendments they might think that the Magistratei had published at the Market rA Cass. their intention:of searching the houses at Sutto io n f o ormatio y o : The fact was, they had acted on inade i qu t a o te the Home office until the action had been the c N') communication had • been mato letter of Messrs. hear.) It was obvious, made to had acted wrong. In that Ma gistrates felt that Mr. Unwin the peculiar situation in Parsons and Bell of the 15th of November that the letter it was admitted that, in , law. That letter exerted a rigour beyond the per haps, • tes considered that they which the Magistrates had been placed, they had, per authority of the Government, and had acted under the never stated that the Magistrates had directed Mr. Phillipps to write which the letter to that letter had enclosed a d ocument, on seein g which he the Government could not interfere. • That docu ment Noble Duke had alluded , i n which he had stated that was the declaration in the action brought.by Mr. Broughton against Mr. Unwin.—(The Noble Marquis then,read the declaration, which set forth that it was an action of trespass, brought against the defendant for ille gally breaking into and entering, and illegally searching, the house of the plaintiff.) It was on the proceeding of Mr. Unwin that their negative was founded. Messrs. Parsons and Bell sent a copy of the notice, and also a copy of the warrant, under which the sear c h was alleged to be made. But the search was not .made under that warrant, and it was so admitted by the counsel at the trial. The warrant was not used. It did not agree in terms with the information. The informa tion stated that arms had been collected by these persons, but where ? There was no information respecting that. It did not even state that they were in their possession. When, therefore, application was made to the home-office respecting the trial, the answer given was, that under these circumstances the Government could not take part in the business, nor advise respecting it; but that if a ver dict was given for the defendants, they might take the whole case into consideration. Ile (the Marquis of Nor manby) justified that part of the letter by the information he received. It showed that he was wining to reconsider the whole matter, provided Mr. Unwin could make out a better case, but every fact that had come to his know ledge since then, - convinced him more and more that Mr. Unwin had acted on that occasion rashly, inconsiderately, and illegally, and that the verdict in no respect turned on his having acted in conformity with his instructions. The Noble Duke had alluded to the charge of Justice Littledale, but he did not allude to that which had been delivered by Lord Chief Justice Denman. The Magis-. trates never conceived that they were acting under the direction or special authority of the Government until the action was brought. And why did he (Lord Nor manby) say that they thought so ? Because they never stated that they were acting under any such special direc tions. Lord Denman, who had heard the whole of the case, stated that Lord John Russell's letter was not law ; and - even if it were, it did not go to the extent to which Mr. Unwin went. The charge of the Lord Chief Jus tice on the trial bore him out in saying that Mr. Unwin 'had overstepped the powers given him by Lord J. Rus sell. It appeared from the evidence that Mr. Unwin, whose only duty it was to search fir arms, exclaimed when he had found some.: papers, that " these were what he had been searching tor." The Nuble Duke had not, in his opinion, established a case against the conduct of the Home-office:—(Cries of " Hear,") lie did , not wish 4p throw. suspicion on Mr. Univin'a motives, bat he thought that gentleman had very im prudently taken the law into his own hands. He would take that opportunity of putting itto the present Govern ment whether it would not be advisable that they should confirm an appointment which he had formerly made ; and whether it would not be advantageous to the public service . that there, should be a solicitor to the Home office? , There might not be much occasion for such a functionary at the present, baton occasions of difficulty it would be found of thagreatest benefit, that the Home office should haVe a professional gentleman like Mr. Vizzard to consult. He had only to reiseat, in regard to the case to which the Noble Duke's motion referred, that he had taken the course which he thought was re quired under the circumstances. Lord WHARNOLIFFE did not find fault With the conduct pursued by the Noble Marquis who had just sat down, or the Home-office, but he must allow him to say that upon the present occasion, as in the sister kingdom, there appeared to be a bias in his mind against the county Magistrates. He thought he could show that he had failed in his duty in that respect, because he (Lord Wharncliffe) considered it to be the duty of the Home Secretary to put himself in confidence with the Magis trates. That had no t b een t he .case w i t h the Noble Marquis, and he asserted that no . GoVernment could 'efficiently govern country in which that confidence did not exist. His Noble Friend, in alluding to the present case, had stated that there Was no warrant. Now, sup posing such to be the case, he (Lord Wharncliffe) asserted that Mr. Unwin had acted in a manner in which he was justified. Ile thought he should be able to show • his Noble Friend, that upon the present occasion the charge of the Learned Judge who tried the case had been greatly distorted.--(Hear.) The Noble .Lord had then referred to the charge of Mr. Justice Littlodale, in which that Learned Judge stated that Mr. Unwin had a right to pursue the course he had done. 'With respect to the papers, he admitted it was doubtful whether, in searching for arms, Mr. Unwin had a right to search for papers. He thought in strictness he had not a right to do so ; but it must be recollected, that, in the county in which this took place, there was constant arming and organization, and under such circumstances, he thought the course Mr. Unwin had adopted was justified ; and even if it was not, his conduct ought not to be viewed with that strictness which it appeared to have been. As to the papers, the Learned Judge had stated that'he did not think. Mr. Unwin had a right to take them. All the circumstances of the case showed that : Mr. Unwin had the right to search for arms, and that the Govern- ment were not called upon to show a Want of feelin , towards the individual. He thou g ht th e cou rs e t h at heel been pursued by his Noble Friend was unworthy of the high station which he held as head of the Magistrates of the country. Upon the best consideration he could give the case, he thought Mr. Unwin had not committed any very great • offitnce. With respect to the Noble Duke's motion, he thought it was impossible fur the House to interfere, and he would recommend him, therefore, not to push it to a division, Lut satisfy himself with what had passed upon the present occasion. Lord BROUGHAM said, that after the observation of the Noble Lord who had just sat down, it was almost unnecessary for him to say a word in justification of his objection to the motion of the Noble Duke. He wished, however, to remind their Lordships'that the law threw around ma g istrates the most ample pr o t ec ti on , an d t h at if they made bona fide errors they were more lightly visited than any other class of men. He must object to the motion on general grounds. Lord J. Russell did not seem to have mistaken the law; in fact, there was no material difference between his views of the law, and that of the Judge who tried the cause. The informa tion hardly gave them the right to search for arms. It said nov a word about papers, yet it was only for taking papers that the action was brought. Neither did Lord John Russell's letter say one word about papers. Even although there had been, it would have been no justification for the Magistrate, but it did not. The Magistrate took the whole matter on his own shoulders, and surely the county ought not to be called upon to pay the costs. The motion was unprece dented, and he hoped the House would not agree to it. The Duke of PORTLAND th en withdrew his motion. A Message from the Commons brought up the Poor law Commission Continuance Bill, which was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time to morrow. HOUSE OF LORDS, Oct. 1. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Wool sack at Five o'Clock. The Earl of MALIVESBURY and the Earl Of SHEFFIELD took the oaths, and their seats. The Lunatics Bill, the Navy Pay Bill, the Frogmore Lodge Bill, and the Royal Gardens Bill, were severally read a third time, and passed. A Message from the Commons brought up the Popu lation Payment Bill, which was read a first, and ordered to be read a second time to-morrow. On the motion of Lord BROUGHAM, the production of certain Correspondence relative to slavery in Malacca and Ceylon was agreed to, after a f ew o b serva ti o ns from Lord.Ellenboroug - COR. The E ar l of RADNOR N-LAW said he had several petitions to present, praying for the immediate and entire repeal of the Corn -laws. The Noble Earl expressed his dismay at the i n t ent i on of Government to have Parliam pro roguedntn without taking the question of the Corn-Ins into consideration. Such a course appeared w eld come very consistent with the vote that Muse l to ' be to on the first day of the Session. It appeiirieiri answer to con trary to the. address that had been carried o.e _ d Parliament, the Speech from the Throne, which p if not in words, at least in substanee-n,leettto:elniteernininitlid) not immediate consideration of th r e ill s is u t understand on what ground . rs should say they d till February, end were not prepared to consider the question. If Par liament were to be ro la e r - ° ':eemed to be intended, to the subject then referred ' , all knew enough of the pro a Select Committee, they tO be aware that a long time ceedings of Committees - ey d e should come to any settle would elapse befo t r';' , and that in fact, by adopting ment of (sn'boteveernment meant to pursue the the course Government left unsettled foe a year and a question would th re spect to a fixed duty, he h a d hall: W i -7 on a previous occasion stated his decid e d o pi n i on that all duty on corn ought to be removed.—(Llear.) As to the ar guments adduced in fav o u r o f t h e s lidi ng ocale by those who asked how could a fixed duty of Bs. be ie d when the price of. corn was 70 s . or 80s per qua rter, r,: in reply he should state that it was on foreign corn, which was comparat i vely cheap, that that duty )vould be imposed ; 40s. 6d. was t h e average price at which foreign corn wail intro duced inee this market, and the price the consumer paid was 705. or 80s., thus paying a duty of ale. Gd, It was most astonishing to him that when the people were suffering the greatest possible distress, Parliament should disperse, no mitilinew why or w h ere f ore,..without doing any thing at all. He happened to have been in the country when the House of Commons met after the short recess, and he was disgusted (for he could use no other word so, expreesiv e of. hi 4 feelings) to find that, meeting under such: eircuinstanccs, their first votes were to appoint st Conunittee on the ventilation of the House, and similar measures, leaving quite out of the question the distress of the country; —(Hear, hear.) But there was another consideration: the Noble Duke had, told them. that is 1:118 not possible to enter into the consideration ef. :this subject in the present Session. He (the Earl of Rad nor) did not know why the present Session should close eo suddenly. The distress of the country was not denied, though papers were produced which, it' they were meant to show any thing, meant that there was no distress at all. But • still the existing distress was not denied. Then there must be some causes for it, and would it not be • worth while to institute inquiry into the cause, if nothing else,was done. The people would then, at least, have the consolation of thinking that those intrusted with the Government of the country did not admit their sufferings without endea vouring to relieve them. It was not only gross folly, but gross cruelty, to prorogue Parliament under such eh., cumstances. The Noble Duke might remember that when he was in office 12 years ago, the same distr es s prevailed, there w ere th e same high prices of corn, and agricultural distress, and nothing was done by the Go vernment ; they took no steps to remedy the evil, and the conntry was in a blaze from one end to the other. He (the Earl of Radnor) thought that ought to prove to the Government that the laissez faire system, the trusting to the chapter of accidents on these subjects was not safe. Looking to the state of the cpuntry,be thought the Government would be incurring a fearful respon sibility if, without taking any steps to remedy the pre sent state of things, they should advise her Majesty .to prorogue Parliament. The Noble Earl concluded by presenting the petitions. The Duke of WELLINGTON said ho would, not' now enter into a history of,the Corn-laws, but he thought that if any body considered this subject calmly and dis passionately they. would see that it WII4 I utterly impossible that any inquiry should be made a t the present moment that would lead to any practical result. lh admitted that in parts of the country distress prevailed, but this was no real distress from want of food. The Noble Earl had stated that he (the Duke of Wellington) had said on the first night of the Session that there ought to be inquiry. The Earl of RADNOR observed, that what he had stated was, that the Noble Duke had stated that he should have no objection to inquiry, provided it went re gularly through a Committee. The Duke of WELLINGTON said it was quite plain that it was impossible at the present moment to have an inquiry that would result in any good. For his own part he had no objection to take upon himself the r of advising her Majesty to prorogue the Parliament before any inquiry was made on the subject of the Corn-laws. In stating that, he admitted at once that inquiry was most important, but it ought to fake place when there was more time for it. He did not thbilc that the public would feel any inconvenience from the postponement of the inquiry. The Earl of RADNOR said that the House was at that moment fuller than it usually was, and that if busi ness of imnortance were brought forward there could be no doubt but that there would be a full attendance ; he had known business of importance—and no business could be of greater importance than the consideration of the digresses of the people—he had known, he repeated, business of importance discussed at this time of year, and the attendance had always been full in such cases. NEW HOUSES OF PAR, I. IA MEN T. Lord WHARN C LUTE brought up the Report of the Conn - Ilia:1) appointed to consider the subject of the Ventilation of the New Houses of Parliament. THE MANSFIELD CHARTISTS. _ _ The Duke of PORTLAND moved for copies of con tain correspondence which had taken place between Lord John Russell and the Magistrates of Mansfield, the Marquis of Normality, and the Duke of Portland. The Magistrates of Mansfield had received information that on Aug. 12, 1839, it was probable there would be an eruption of Chartists into the town. The Magistrates had met, and a Mr. Unwin, a Magistrate, had told them that he bad certain information that in many houses there were arms concealed for treasonable purposes, and that if those houses were - searched they would find them. Now, the Magistrates had great doubts as to whether they possessed any authority to search for arms, and the Clerk to the Magistrates gave it as his o pi n i on t h at t h ey had no such authority. The apprehended meeting of Chartists took place. They were dispersed without difficulty, and some of them were taken up, but in the evening constables, under the superintendence of Mr. Unwin, a Magistrate, went to the house of Joseph Broughton, in older to search for arms. No arms were found, but many letters signed Pitkeithley, which Mr. Unwin considered to be of a treasonable na ture were seized, copies of which he forwarded to Lord John Russell; and Mr. Phillips, by the desire of Lord J. Russell, acknowledged the receipt, thanked the Ma gistrates for their zeal, but stated that the Noble Lord had no directions to give them. Not one word was then said against the perfect legality and order of the proceed ings taken by them. Two months after that, Broughton gave notice of action agai est Mr. Unwin, and that Gentleman applied. to I ord John Russell to under take his defence. Mr. anwin was now dead, but there never was n m 'ea active Magistrate. He certainly was no partisan of her Majesty's late Govern ment ; on the contrary, he was strongly opposed to them ; bat, had he been their warmest- adherent, he could not have done more to repress Chartism. In answer to his application at the Home-office, he received a letter from Mr. Phillips, by command of the Marquis of Normanby, in which the Noble Mar quis regretted that the Magistrates had proceeded to the search of any house without having had a sworn infor mation before them, or without previously communicat ing with the Secretary of State; as it was at variance with his previous instructions to the Magistrates. Before that period not one word had ever been said against the conduct of the Magistrates. In his opinion it was the duty of the Secretary of State at all times to support the 'Magistracy ; but is this case the Noble Marquis had gone out of his way, and had invented facts—(Hear) —in order to cast blame upon them. This was a most extraordinary case, and one which, he thought, deserving their Lordships' attention. The Noble Duke concluded by reading his motion. The Marquis of NORMANBY characterised the mo tion which the Noble Duke had brought forward as a most extraordinary one. He would leave it to the good sense of their Lordships if, - on ex parte state ments, as had been brought under their atten tion, they should grant those papers—whether without any knowledge of the grounds on which those trials took place -- without any knowledge of the Judges before whom they were tried—their Lord ships would take upon themselves the responsi bility of advising the Crown to grant thote papers. He was placed in a most unpleasant situation, as he would have to remark upon the conduct of one who was now no more ; but he could assure the House that in any course he might think proper to adopt he would take care not to say anything that would be painful to any friend of Mr. Unwin. The Noble Duke had stated that the pro ceedings were founded on the letter of Lord J. Russell. Such was not the fact. Lord John Russell never had been told that a search had been made for arms till vf,er the action of Mr. Broyle was tried. The letter of the 22d of August was inaccurate in many respects, espe cially with respect to the statement that the house was searched under the warrant of the Magistrates ; such not. being the case. The Noble Duke might view the pre sent subject with a microscopic eve with respect to ans field, but he could assure him that there was great un easiness at that time through the whole reentry. He could not help believing that the whole of the ie formation as to arms was of the description to which he had alluded. He would direct the attention of their Lordships to the information of Ephraim Sills—it was after all mere hearsay :—he said that if certain houses were searched he should not be surprised if arms - were found. If the Noble Duke would look back to the; period he (the Marquis Of Normanby) had no doubt but that he would recohect that the Magiatrates of Mans: field were kept in a constant state ofalarm by these un founded reports. The Magistrates had luilea - their search for arms, and they gave as the reason for it failure that th e p ersons h a d h ad sufficient time to seci . te their arms, in consequence of the noti ce t h ey had h'atil he did IA suppose of the Magistrat es ' in t ent i on. Now, The Expiring Laws Continuance Bill was read a se cond time. The House then Adjourned till to-morrow at Twelve o'Clock. HOUSE OF CbMMONS, Oct. 1. The SPEAKER took the Chair shortly before Four o'Clock. Colonel the Hon. Dawson Darner took the oaths and his seat for Portarliugton. Lord G. SOMERSET brought up the Report of the Select Committee en Private Bills, and gave notice that he should on Monday next call the attention of the House to the subject of the Report. Sir H. FLEET WOOD presented a petition from Preston, praying for the removal of the restrictions on trade and commerce. Mr. LITTON presented a petition from a tide-waiter in Dublin, stating that he had been dismissed from his situation, and praying for inquiry. Colonel ACTON presenjed a petition from Sir LI. Lees, complaining of the designs of the Jesuits, and praying for their expulsion from the British dominions. iMPROVEMETS IN THE GREEN PARK. The Earl of LINCOLN in answer to a question from Mr. Divett, stated that it was the intention of the Govern ment to carry into effect the proposed improvement in the Green Park with respect to the removal of the house of Lady Gordon. Steps had been taken to remove the house as soon as possession was given up by the repre sentatives of Lady Gordon. Mr. COBDEN presented a petition from Salisbury, praying for a repeal of the Corn-laws. Mr. C. BULLER, presented a petition from Lord George Pages, relative to the recogaizances to the peti tion complaining of an undue election for the borough of Carnarvon. The petition was ordered to be printed, the Hon. Member having given notice of his intention for calling the attention of the House to the subject on Wednesday next. Sir F. TRENCH gave notice that he should, early next Session, move for a Select Committee to consider the practicability and expediency of a plan for improving the navigation of the Thames, and for erecting a railroad on the embankment on the north of the river. The Hon. Menber having proceeded to state in his notice the advantages of those undertakings, The SPEAKER observed that the Gallant Officer could not embody an argument in his notice. Mr. A. CHAPMAN moved for returns of the number of foreign ships entered inwards into the ports of Lon don, Newcastle, and Leith, front any foreign part, from the Ist August to the Ist of October 1840 ; also similar returns of British ships, during the same period.— Order.d. • ANGLO4 3 ORTUGITESE CLAIMANTS. Lord SANI)ON moved for Returns of the date of the disbanding of the respective naval and military Anglo-Portuguese forces ; of the date of the Mixed British and Portuguese Commission, appointed to examine • and decide upon the claims of British sub jects who served in- the army or navy during the War of Restoration in Portugal ; copy of the rules for the guidance of the Commissioners .; Returns of the date of the installation in office of the Commissioners ; of the date of the decision of the Belgian Minister on the question of contracts ; of the date of the commence ment of the reception of claims ; of the number of days, and of hours per day, during which each Commissioner respectively has been enga.2ed in the labours of the Commission ; showing whether any accounts have been examined by one Commissioner in the ab sence, of the other ; of the number of claims received, and the number, if any, investigated and adjudicated upon ; and of claimants to whom notice of such adjudication has been given ; of the number of se cretaries, clerks, or others, employed under the Commis sion, the dates of their .several appointments, with their respective salarieS ; of the salaries of the Commis sioners, and from what source paid ; together with an account of all other 'expenses incidental to the Commis sion.—Ordered, COMMERCIAL TARIFF. Mr. GLADSTONE brought up certain returns ivhi9h had been moved for relating to the Commercial Tariff, which were ordered to be laid on the table. The 'HON. MEMBER then moved that the Order of the House made on the . 27th of last month, relative to the return of the prices of wheat, be discharged ; which, having been ordered, the Hon. Member moved that an humble Address be presented to her Majesty, praying that she would be graciously pleased to direct that there be laid before the House a return of the highest and lowest average prices of wheat in each of the three years, 1834, ,1835, and 1840.—Ordered. EMBANKMENT OF THE THAMES. • Sir F. TRENCH then gave his notice relative to the embankment of the Thames, in an amended form, so as to be in accordance with the rules of the House. PARK FOR LONDON AND FINSBURI. Mr. WTAKLEY presented a petition, signed by 230 of the most respectable inhabitants of the north of London and of Finsbury, stating that those parts of the metro polis were so densely populated and so much built upon that the health of the inhabitants suffered 'in cense quence. and praying the house to take tuiearly. O devisingppor tunity of some means for clearing open spaces to furnish the inhabitants with the means of exercise and recreation. complained c necessary IHe believed the -eat portion of the evils that had been. to propose in the next Session of Parliament i fq administr a ti on of the law 1111111 from defects in the l aw d itself. lielof had arisen more from the defects in the id not, however, stand up to contend that there w ere d efects in the l aw w hi c h mi g ht not b e altered. . . Mr. B. BALDWIN, like his Hon. Friend the Mem- . ber for Ev es h am, was not pledged either to support . or oppose any mea sure —he was left to exercise his judg ment. He WFS opposed to many provisions of the Act ; but he t rusted the Right lion. Baronet the Secretary for the Hom e D epartment ' would, next Session, introduce such a measure as would enable him to give it his cor dial supp ort. • Mr. HINDL EY d i d not k now w h e th er h e was quite in order-or not in a ll u di ng t o a former debate—(Cries of " No, no")—b ut h e truste d t h e H ouse would allow him, as it wa s , t o d efend himself aga i nst a c h arge ma de again s t him by th e Ri ght Hon. Baronet o f h av ing exaggerated a case of distress. . He would not complain of the Right Hon. Baronet in his absence reading a letter from an anonymous Magistrate, one who would not give his name, in contradiction to his statement ; but what did it - amount to ? Why, that the Magistrate, who was antonymous, was told by the overseer that there was no foundati on ,f or the statement. H e was i n th e coml . 6 7 ' wheal the report of the Hon. Baronet's speech reached:l hli n , and he immediately went to the house of the family to-whi c h h e had alluded, and found that they were not in rece i pt of even ls. 6i. a wee k. The woman told him that she had been cursed repeatedly by the overseer. Th at m i ght ho true or false, but that was her -statement. Duringthe last six weeks the man had been in work fi ve, and trio woman had been reeling with one master for a month and another for six weeks, but last , Saturday her m as t er f a il e d, and both of them were now .out of `York.. Sh e assure d him that last Thursday she was reeling a ll d ay, and that was heavy work , it was not assisted by th e steam eng i ne , an d went home, and all • the refreshm ent .s h e h a d t o t a ke was potatoes and salt, and on the Friday after the same work she went h ome an d did not even get that. He was told by, the person who .visited a grocer, that while three years ago he. *as worth 3,0001., a large sum for a person in his business; yet such was the state of • destitution in the country, that his trade declined, and he was reduced as low as his neighbours. He candidly told the Right Hon. Baronet he did not come to that House to make false statements. The Right Hon. Gen tleman read a letter which he received from, he believed, a. Mr.. fills, a Rev. Magistrate—:(Hear, hear)—den) ing some 'statements made by him (Mr. Hindley), and he .Legged.to:read to.the House a letter which he received ;only a few hours bef;)re from his solicitor, whom he re quested .to. inquire into the facts. The Hon. Gentle man then read the letter, which stated that the writer had inquired into the facts . from the woman herself, and she confessed she had received from the overseer 4s. on the 7th ofApril, 35.. on the 1 61 h, and 2s. on the 24th, for which small sums she travelled three miles ; that he asked the Bench of Magistrates for a copy of her deposition, which was refused. . He (Mr. Hindley) thought it would be but common courtesy to give the deposition of this person. He could assure the House he did not wish to exaggerate any statement's. He had in his hand letters from individuals expressing astonishment that such a statement as he made in that House should create any suspicion. The writers stated they knew many indivi duals similarly circumstanced. He did not say this for the purpose of increasing the Anti-Corn-law cry. He would not endeavour to obtain an alteration of those laws by having recourse to such means. He thought the Poor-law and Corn-law did not want any such aid, and might well rest on their innate merits. Captain POLHILL wished to make a few observations on the question before the House. He hoped that a Bill would, next Session, be introduced in such a form that all objectionable parts of the present system would be removed, and that there could be no opposition to it. The Right Hon. Baronet had the cards in his own hands, and could secure a lasting popularity by a thorough amendment of the existing Poor-laws. For his own part, his constituents hail expressO unanimous approba tion of the votes which he had hitherto given on the question of the Poor-laws, and he should now vote against the motion of the Hon. Member for Oldham. Mr. COBDEN would not go into the discussion of the general subject of the Poor-laws, but he would offer a few remarks in explanation of the vote whi c h h e was _ _ about to give, in support of th e mot i on of the Hon : Member for Oldham. In truth, he believed that the Bill was passed to evade the repeal of another law— (Hear)—and its effect had been to show more obviously the necessity for repealing that other law.—(Hear, hear.) He lad no objection, nor had the labourers, that the latter should be obliged to maintain themselves by their own exertions ; but the market of their labour ought not to be restricted—(Hear, .hear)—and they should be allowed to exchange the products of their labour for food with all the rest of the world.—(Hear. hear.), He then read an extract from the debate upon the Corn-laws in 1815, in which it was argued that, although in o th er countries, the wages of l a b our did not r i se w i th the price of provisions, yet in• this country the Poor-laws afforded a protection to the labourer, and secured to him that, when his wages were not adequat e t o hi s su pp or t, the d e fi c i enc y would be made out of the poor's rate ; • and, in fact, a provision to that effect ,was introduced into the Poor •law at that pe riod. But the compact was not kept with the la bourers when the landlords found that the operation of the Poor-law tended to counterbalance the advantages which they had .secur e d by the C o rn-laws, and thy broke faith with •the people, and dissolved the partner. ship.—(Cheers.) There was only one means by which the Bill before the House could be maintained, or the labourer truly relieved from dependence, and that was by allowing a free interchange of commodities with all the nations of the world.—(hear.) Colonel HAMILTON had not changed his opinions on the subject. He agreed in the principle of the Bill, and he thought that the Commissioners of Somerset house ought to be retained, in .order to protect the working classes from being at the mercy of the Local Board. But he thought there were many serious ob jections to the present law, and that out-door relief ought to be afforded in many instances in which it was refused, even in the Union in which he was Chairman of the Board of Guardians. He considered this a Con servative question—(Cheers and laughter)—for if the working classes did not see their interests attended to in that House, they would easily be persuaded by the agitators for universal suffrage that they were not re presented.—(Hear, hear.) With a perfect confidence that the Right Hon. Baronet would next Session intro duce a satisfactory measure, he would vote against the motion of the Hon. Member for Oldham. Mr. RENNIE said, it was quite clear that the Hon. Member for Oldham would receive apologies only from those on the other side, from whom he might expeot votes.—(Hear and a laugh.) The Bill was calculated to undermine the good understanding which ought to exist between the aristocracy and the labouring classes. If the administration of the law, as it at present stood, was persevered in, the lower classes would feel themselves so ill-used, that the institutions of the country (as we under stood) would be in danger. Mr. WAKLEY, who rose amidst loud cries of "Di vide, divide," said he would only detain the House a few moments. He had expected a long debate, and the ex treme satisfaction of hearing many express their hostility to the Bill ; but the die was cast, and the principle of the measure would be upheld. In the unpleasant situation •in 'which he wa s pl a ced—(Cheers and laugnter)-- he might be allowed to state the course which his party would take.—(Laughter.) In this he would follow the example of the Right Hon. Baronet. Indeed, their cases were much resembled.—(Renewed laughter.) He, like the Right Hon. Baronet, bad a united Cabinet, and all his colleagues were united—(Great laughter)—and he, like the Right Hon. Baronet, was determined that he would not propose any measure in that House which he 'did not conscientiously approve of, and that he would not be deterred by any opposition, or persuaded by any - entreaties, from • stating his convictions to the House.— (A laugh.) No m an h a d been more cordially abused for not changing his place, as if remaining in the same place, was a proof of mutation of mind. The treatment he had met with on this account was most unjust, for it 'was well known to the House that he first took his seat on the Opposition side of the house, and from , those 'benches he moved for the release of the Dorchester labourers. The Right lion. Baronet was then in power, and afterwards, when the late Administration:succeeded him (Sir R. Peel), • he, with Mr. Hume, Mr. Roebuck, and Mr. D. W. Harvey, continued to sit in the same place. Could he now, as a Reformer, devoted—earnestly de voted—to the cause of the people, aid by any act of his to restore to power a party that sacrificed all public confidence ?. He would take no such course, and he would exhort the people of England, as a Reformer, to keep that faction in its present impotent position.— (Ministerial cheers.) What would become of that fac tion ? Theirshattered forces, if not their broken legion, would dwindle into small groups of various shades, some of them holding . Tory principles, and some of them re taining Whig opinions. But let them not have two aristo cratic parties to contend against. If there was to be a strife, let it be between the ar i s t ocracy an d t h e d emocracy. That was hiS reason for not going across the House and making common cause against the present Government. He hoped in God that the Whie.s, as Whigs, would never again be restored to power—(Hear, hear, from the Ministerial benches)—but that did not prevent his de sire to get out the Tories as soon as possible.—(Laughter.) They•should candidly and fairly consider every subject brought before the House, and if the measures proposed by the Right • HOnourable Baronet were good he would, as he had • stated he would do before the Right lion. Baronet came into power, consider his measures as though .they were brought forward by a frier.d.—(Hear.) That was a duty he owed to the Constitution, to the people, and to the great national principles of the country.—(Cheers.). He considered that no factious opposition ought to be • carried on against any Minister ; he considered such • a course Would be paltry, mean and disgraceful, and• such a course he would, not pursue. • He thanked the House for the patience with which they heard him, and for giving • him an opportunity of explanation, after the gross mis representations to which he had been subjected. Mr. CALLAGHAN, who rose amidst cries of " ques tion," begged leave to make a few observations, and. to explain, his reasons why, having on a former occasion given his vote in favour of the Commission, he now felt himself called on to adopt a different course. When he had voted on that occasion the Poor-law had not yet been introduced into Ireland— . . it had not been introduced, at least, int; many parts of that country—and where it had been introduced it had been found to work very badly. The Hon. Gentleman then read a portion of a petition from Cork, complaining of the a dministration of the law in that city. He felt himself warranted, from the words in that petition, to change the opinion he once held, that the appointment of the Commission would be .beneficial. He felt himself the more strong:y called upon. to state that, in conse quence of what had fallen the other night frOin an Hon. Member who was looked upon as a great authority by the Right Hon. Baronet., that the system had worked xvell in Ireland.—(Hear.) He could only say that - the Ells- content was almost u n i versa l i n Ireland on t h e su bject • dent, for they divide th e h onour betwixt them, of the law.—(H ear .) The greatest possible con f u should have Commenced with the year 1837, sion h a d b een i ntroduced into the meetings of t h e Boards of G uar di ans f rom the conflicts between the rural comprising the period bet ween June 1836 and and city districts, each striving to throw upon the other May 1837—that bei ng , as is remark e d b y M r. the burden o f ma i nta i n i ng the pocx. The law of settle- TooKE, "the last in a series o f s i x successive sca ment had been established in England and introducedproduce of the wheat harvest into Ireland ; and ibr that and for the other reasons.he , . sons, in whicia the d fully sufficed for the consumption of the had stated, he felt himself bound to vote against the eon kimingdom without the aid lot' foreigsnir'sßuoppnElyß.T" tinuance of the Commission. Mr. S. CRAWFORD, amidst loud cries of " Ques- Why did not Sir.ROBERT PEEL, or tion," said that he would not detain the House more PEEL 's correspondent, if he wished to make a than a few moments. The Hon. Gent!then - plained the reason why he voted for the motion. le'lxie fair comparison, tell us the number of fever p a .. people of Rochdale were afraid of the S of provisions i rovi i the ' tients that were admitted in the flourishing Bill being introduced into. their locality. 1333, and 1834, so as to enable the After a few words front Mr. WARD, the II . divided-- - ouse years 153 G, to compare—the point at issue —the For 2lr.Fi e ld en ' s motion... Against it ....... The 1 3 3 singular, if it be not The Bill was th en rea d a third time an ' —ll5 PEEL br his correspondent should not have sold • ' .The House then adj ourne d till Twelve l o'clock mssed to morrow.one word about the fever in those previous rears, when the people Were supposed to be tolerably well off. 13, Great Marlborough -street. M R EMOIRS of MADAME LAFAGE. WRITTEN BY HERSELF. The English translation of this extraordinary work will positively be published on Monday next, October 4, in two small Svo., with a striking Likeness of 31adante Lafarge. Those who desire to obtain early copies should give their orders immediately to their respective booksellers. • 'Henry Colburn, Publisher, 13, Great Marlborough -street. GENERAL COUNTRY SUBSCRIP TION CIRCULATING LIBRARY. SUbtcribcrs in all parts of Great Britain receive an' unin terrupted supply of New Publications. 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Dress Boxes, 7s. ; Second Price, 3s. 6d.; First and Secono Circles, ss. ; Second Price, 2s. 6d. ; Pit, 35.; Second Price. 2s. ; Gallery Is. Ticlletl and places for the Boxes to be taken of Mr. Grogan at the Box-office, from Ten till Fear, where Season Tickets may be had upon application. Private Boxes to be had solely of Ailr. Andreivs, bookseller, 167. New Bond-street. On Monday, What Will. the World Say,. with Animal Mag netism, and Hans of Iceland. • AOYAL SURREY THE UNDER TiiE MANACTENIENIT OF MR. DAVIDGE AND MR. WILLIS JONES. Unparalleled success of the Military Old English Equestrian Spectacle, " Blenheim," the Waterloo of the lath Century. Overflowing Houces. 'THIS EVENING. OCT. 2, Will be prese . nted the successful Equestrian .Spectacle, called THE BA rILE OF BLENHEIM.; 'OR, I'HE HORSE OF THE DISINHERITED; introducing Air. Ducrow's mag nificent Stud of Forty Horses, bighlly-trained Palfreys Fairy Poneyi,, Equestrian Troop, and Companies of both Theatres; embracing all the Military Exploits of the Great Duke of Marlborough, Grand Reviews, Battles, and Glorious Victories. Unfortnnately, also, for Sir ROBERT and his correspondent, contemporaneously with . the be ginning of the bad harvests came the first inter ruption to the American trade. It was in the autum n of 1836 that the great Liverpool houses got into difficulty, and front that time to the present the trade with America has been com paratively languishing. Thus two causes com bined to make the fever statistics prior to 1837, as a means of comparison with those statistics since that year, of great interest • and. we re spectfully ask Sir R o b ert and his anonymous informer, why no notice is taken of the years 1836, 1835, and 1834. It does not appear to us sagacious, , even if it be quite honest, to state sueNlii-h4,, kd fact Sir ROBERT PE EL s t ate d , t len e eutittiing a: y any qualifying or correcting cfreinitiViihiVe.c4 could not be unknown to Sir ROBEar' s •P'eEris in , fur-want that, during the last five or six years, a great deal of attention has • been directed to im prove the health of towns. Exertions have been made to lodge the people better, to improve drainage, to establish superior ventilations, and though Sir ROBERT PEEL'S bungling legislation has been a pre-eminent failure, producing infi nitely more harm than good, those who apply the physical sciences go not fail in the same way ; and the exertions made to improve our towns have been, in a great measure, successful. Manchester, under the new Corporation and new police, has been by no means behind other towns, and we believe we err very little in saying that, with the exception ()Nile metropolis, in no town has there been more done of late to improve the dwellings of the poor. Sir ROBERT PEEL ought to have . adverted to that circumstance, if he had not.wished rather to delude than instruct. A wise man, aiming at truth, would have men tioned it. A hireling, partizan, landlord, casts it aside, and dwells only on some figures as a proof that the people are not so much a prey to disease and death as they were. We have seen it stated also, more than once, that the number of Irish who immigrate into England is annually lessening. Such a result seems the natural consequence of the improve ment which is going forward in Ireland, and of the slackness of enterprise in every part of Eng land. It is clear, when thousands of persons in every town can find no employment, that there can be no room for an importation of additional thousands from Ireland', and no temptation for them to come. We believe, therefore, thatim migration from Ireland has not been so great during the last five years as during the preced ing five years. Now the Irish, according to Mr. M'Cur.Loon's statistical work, are " keep ing up, if they are not introducing, the fevers of their wretched country into the heart of the British cities." If the immigration of Irish, therefore, be checked from any cause, one source oi` fever is' proportionably dried up, and that immigatiou has been lessened since 1837. In fact; according to all accounts, of late emi gration to a considerable extent has taken place from the manufacturing districts, and if there were no other circumstances to invalidate Sir R. PEEL'S statement, the want of any correct knowledge of the number of inhabitants at Man chester in 1837 and in 1841 would make it worthless. But, limited and misleading as Sir R. PEEL wished his statement to be, ;the comparison between the number of fever patients in 1837, 799; and in 1838, the first year of a very deficient crop and of much slackness in work, 1,372 ; and in 1830, another deficient year, 1,040; and in 1840, 848—the number being almost double in 1838, one-fourth greater in 1839, and one-six teenth. greater in 1840—really proves that the dearth to which the Corn-law subjects the is a prolific source of disease. We have pointed out several circumstances—the diminished immigration of Irish, the improved habits of the people, and the improved police of the town— which should lead to a diminution of fever, but what do we find coincident with deficiency of food and slackened trade ? Why, that the fever patients increase from 799 to 1,372, or taking the ave rage three years subsequent to 1837, from 799 to 1,086. We should be astonished that the cautious Baronet had quoted a statement which shows that the starvation system he supports in creases disease, and, probably, also increases • deaths to the amount of one-third, was he not so ignorant of all the accompanying circumstances, or so blind to them, that he was completely unaware of the bearings of his statistics. We re peat, that the increase of fevers between the years ending May, 1837, and May, 1833, the first year of a greatly deficient harvest and 'a declining trade, is a severe condemnation of that abomina ble Corn-law which in that year withheld food and trade from the people, • But the very essence of the Right Hon Baronet's triumph was in the dimished number of fever patients in the year 1840, 848, and 1841, 691, par ticularly during the last three months of the pre . sent year, as compared to the number of patients in the three correSponding months of the preced ng years. Alas, for his knowledge and his hu manitY !' Does he expect to find, after decimating the people—for the number of fever patients Who die appears to be at least one in ten—that there will remain the same nuniber to kill? Dr. !BOWRING showed that the - mortality of the ma nufacturing districts has increased, • and it is at least whimsical of the Right Hon. Baronet to exult at the diminution of the fever patients this year, in consequence .of the numerous deaths from hunger and fever of the year before. • It is, we understand, a common fact, that, after a disease has been extremely prevalent, as fever was in Manchester in 1838, it falls in the next few years as far below the average as it had suddenly risen above it. In 1838 the fever pa tients were nearly doubled, and it is in the cus tomary order of events that in the next few years the number should diminish. This is hap pening at Manchester ; and Sir R. PEEL, anxious to defend an iniquitous and inhuman law, ac tually drivels out his satisfaction, and the Tories cheer him as he drivels it out, because previous deaths and previous disease have deprived pre sent disease of its victims. - We look on such bold statements as that of Sir R. PEEL with unqualified contempt. Unless statistics be enlightened by a knowledge of cir cumstances, they are valueless; and Sir R. PEEL took care to suppress all the circumstances which could give his fever table interest and correct ness. Suppose it justified all he wished t o i n f er , would it follow that the people are not in deep distress because the fever hospital is not crowded with patients ? There are some years particularly favourable to fever, others not. This may be one of the latter. It is horrible enough ' to find a statesman, who is bound to remove the restrictions by which he crushes the cnterprize and stops the supplies 'of the people, shutting his eyes and his ears to their demands and their complaints; but it is ten-fold horrible to find him endeavourina• to persuade himself and others, by the most puerile and contemptible arguments, that there is no distress worth speaking of, and that it would be Nv ro ;* to put the Legislature - to • the least trouble to correct it. Lord STANLEY described Sir ROBERT PEEL as well knowing j After which, NEW SCENES IN THE CIRCLE, in the Largest Arena in the World, in which Madame Ducrow, Sig nor Hillier, the Great American Hider, the British Horseman, Signor Felix Carlo, and the First Artistes in Europe will appear. To conclude with THE HAUNTED WRECK. HIGH W ATER AT LONDON BRIDGE THIS DAY. Morning 24 minutes attar 2. J Evening .49 minutes attar 2. tat, , 4 4 ,71 ,a 4 Atf i g# * '3 l t " " " " - C*Z.. • ±~~,~ ~a~~a~> LONDON: SATURDAY,* OCTOBER 2, 1841. Sir H. PEEL has recently reminded us of the reputation once enjoyed by a certain ex-Secre tary of the Admiralty. No sooner did a dispute or debate occurin the House of Commons concerning, however remotely, the department with which he was connected, than the Right Hon. Gentle man was provided, it was said, with a letter or memorandum, stating - , on the honour of some high and distinguished personage, the very fact which was required to make out the ex- Secretary's case. So Sir ROBERT PEEL, imitating these tactics, comes down to the House one day with a story from some nameless Magistrate, that Mr. HINDLEY'S statement is not true ; on another, with a nicely selected piece of statistic-, touching savings' banks, which proves almost unheard of prosperity since the ac 7 cession of the Tories to office ; and on a third, with a voluntary statement, made by some high, but still nameless, autho rity in Manchester, that fever has died away as poverty has increased, and that Manchester, under the CAVANA , ,M process of going without .food, is increasing in be:itti most remarkably. Fever cases, according to Sir ROBERT'S name less correspondent, have diminished almost in the proportion of sto 1 compared to 1837. Sir ROBERT, in tact, surpasses his quondam ally and mentor, for lie not only establishes a triumphant case for his part• out of these poor statistical re turns, but he triumphs over common sense and general not )riety. We look with much suspicion at returns leading to such conclusions, and that suspicion we must take leave to make good, though our remarks should fall heavily ou the good sense or the honour of Sir ROBERT PEEL, and degrade him to the level of the veracious ex 'Secretary of the Admiralty, now standing calum niator of the Quarterly Review. Tt'strikes us as somewhat remdrkable 'that Sir ROBERT PEEL, Or Sir ROBERT PEEL'S correspon- MORNING SUN how to dress up a case for House.and th e country in this; as in the House, tl P things; are comletely at 'varianc e man trofl - p which .the Ho use c h eered 3 and t as a tri Starvationists, appears to the emultri a T' s o r ti t i i ier ease conviction and ex ecut i on. A letter publishect.,An. th e 7 , toles yest says that Lord PALmEasToN withi z . cr aY, few days of his resignation, I belie,: very five new paid Attaches,' three at 330/. al'Atteal 2501. a-year each; they were at Vienual -K.:*4;.at tersburgh, the Hague, Dresden, a n d Th places in the world, Stutgard." N ow ' 4 ' 4 ,144 4 tend to no knowledge whatever-Of th4lintl4o. will say, too, that if the offices were ue".`-i,tie we know not why a Howann, an ,I.l.etAlat,y, DUPP, might not be as proper persoi,Nlpa them as a GORDON, a GRAHAM, or a s but if the places were not strictly neee:l3sreN 11 ; reprobation can be too severe on th e (1 841 ',v, ;no Lord PALMERSTON. The charge, h ow ntll lct of publicly made that he created fiVe asete,s4,,i. and the House of Commons will neglet t i - t l Avo s if it fail to investigate the eiretintstiittd: ought to inquire into the whole of the volo!ciqt establishment. In the account of theti tingeneies for 1810, there is a sum of no -"44114' 51,9081. for " the extraordinary ii Ministers at Foreign Courts, together wiAstiPt and equipage." Amongst the items iti t t under this head, are 18,168/. for special tu'"4l3Tl B A l ,9iv and 13,000/. for the G overnor- G eneral of 4c,A Nit a and "suite, beyond th e amount replaced frurr% colonial funds. Such e xp enses might be e rated did the Exchequer overflow with the of voluntary contributors, but when everbhir‘ thing of public revenue i s extorted frOinirvil people—when the employ ers and Pay mas e t,q4 t , the Governme n t, are , many of them, with4lt meat, clothes, or fire —such expe nses are not tifiable fbr any species of service. We can describe them as a wanton invasion of the Di e perty which the Government is constituteu o protect. Th e y are more to be re pr t eh en44 when they tak e pl ace under a -Whig Tory Governm e nt, b ecause they are agree tll to the nature of the latter, but they tbrei: to that ofthe fbrmer, and corrupt and de try while they are equally injurious to the No I ,`" whether practised by Whig or Tory, 1 0 1 present condition of the expenditure and revenue, it is the duty of the House of Cornn, to institute a close examination into th e eXpenses before it t a k e a s i ng l e additionid si lie Pub ling from the people. A skilful prunin g k liir might lOp off a milli on a - ye a r ' from the inisceie laneous esti ma t es an d t h e c i vil contingeci and at the sam e ti me b ene fi t t h e public se t ,, e•s, 4, We have Madrid Jo urna l s o f the :22i1 l b ut find nothing in their col umns worth extra eti g -e The Carlists, taking advant age o f the aninesY. were returning in large numbers to Spai n. 1 ,?) Bank of San Fernando w as p ay i ng 4 per cent.'" account of the dividend which it will decla re . n March. The business of the Bank was s o % I . A ishing that it was expected the dividend wool d. be from 10 to 12 per cent. Reports were afloat of the discovery of Et Co _, e spiracy at Cadiz an v rer generally credited.d Valencia, b ut they t The Five per Cents. were done at "26i and 26 7-16ths 9-16ths at differe nt dates gash, y e a celilnai u v a r tt the h e l , O , The Paris Journals of Wednesday reached us. They bring no political new s : f t a i l l least intent :. The KING continuos to support of the army at Compeign e, where ad' d rr i b T e s i s .e es h a i n s d au f A et j e E s sri l , io d u a r i l3 l ; . s r u i c d c e e s e a d bout _...• encountering any of those stray s h o , .without whiz about him so unpleasantly in his godnieh city of Paris. r The Ilioniteur has a long official defpn defen ce of the Ministerial circulars. M. Laporte was interred on Monday last, at is tio near Corbeil, wh ere h e h a d a small country-house lies' where his death took place, on Friday night. W e r i tl cl derstand that he awoke during the night of Friday 1 1. bouring under a heavy sense of Oppression, a n d caw 4- for air, swallowed a glass of water, immediately a f t ri c g r which he was fatally struck by apoplexy. Attempts to bleed him from the arm and the neck were made, b e , ineffectually, th e v i ta l spar k b eing totally extinct. " Active preparations on the second story of the L i o tt a rsrcte: on the side next the Rue du Musee, are going on for 4 ,: ceiving the library and pictures, bequeathed to the Ra s , by Mr. Standish. t., The new station, in the Rue St. Lazare for the V er. sallies and St. Germain Railroad, is approaching i t , completion. The temporary exit, by the Impasse 130/11' is to be closed, and transferred to one of the presen"t waiting-rooms. To afford greater circulation, the ve st i' bule will be continued to the Rue d'Amsterdara. on each side of the principal court is a covered colotina.6` in which will be cafes-restaurantS and shops simi those of the Pah& Royal. ' A man named L e m o i ne, w h o is condemned to hard labour for twenty yeais for poisoning, but wh o was pro visionally confi ne d i n t h e pr i son of Saintes, made hi s es . cape a few night s ago . H e contrived to remove the j ao ," from his legs, and ma d e hi mself a kind of ladder or the coverlid of his bed; with which, after forcing hi s 1v - through a small o p en i ng w hi ch he had made in his c i . he escaped over the buildings. In his evasion, Lemoine' by his strength an d s kill overcame innumerable obsta: Iles, and all th e a tt empts to di scover him since have failed. Sixty-three more of the persons imprisoned for r e . fusing to disperse during the late disturbances in Paris were arraigned yesterday before the Correctional Tri bunal. Ten were acqujtted, and the rest were sentenced to further confinement, from five to fifteen days, ex cept one man, who was sentenced in contumacy for a month , and a widow named Prudhomine, who wh en arrested had made much resistance, and exclaimed, " If wom en had beards matters would not pass off in this fashion," pand who also conducted herself with great impro. riety before the Court. She was sent back to prison Ae r twenty days. - The Journal du Havre contains the following account of an outrage on a French vessel, the Fourmi, on the coast of Africa. It appears that the Fourmi, which left Goree on the 3d February last for Rio-Pongo, was boarded on the 28th by Birama, the son of Yanda Kony, chief of a tribe, who pretended that the vessel had entered a river belonging to his father, and, falling with his teen, who were armed with sabres, upon the crew, forcibly took pos session of the vessel. The crew jumped overboard, and taking to one of the boats escaped. The Captain and tho mate, however, were captured. The crew were picked up by an American vessel shortly afterwards. Some of the merchants on the coast sent a force to Tacou, the villag e at which Yanda Kony resides, and insisted on his givin g up the vessel, which he at length consented to do, and released his prisoners, alleging as an excuse for th e seizure that he had taken the Fourmi for a slaver. The cargo had been r es p ec t e d by the captors, b u t th e ca b in had been plundered of nearly all its contents. Kicg Louis Philippe has addressed a letter to th e Burgomaster of Spa, as we learn from the Bruss e l, papers, in reply to a notification from that functionar y , of the inauguration of the monument at La Sauvenier e , to -commemorate the visit of hi s M a j esty ' s mother in 1787. The King mentions his high gratification at the circumstance, and assures the B urgomaster that he ,alWays recollects the days spent in his boyhood at Spa with peculiar pleasure. It appears from his Majesty's letter that the monument was raised at the expense and by direction of the Queen of the Belgians. The British Government steamer, Firebrand, arrived at Ostend on the 24th inst., to convey the Duchess of Kent to England. The Berlin papers state that, in the night of the 19th inst., the Palace of Monbijou, though in the most popu lous part of the city, was entered by thieves, who, after forcing their way into the Hall of Antiquities, carried off several works of art, estimated at 12,00011•. Among riTsehne, them were some rare Egyptian relics. The police had not been able to disc:Over any trace of the robbers. Advices from Sfax, near Tunis, state that a dispute had arisen there; about the end of August, between an I .'nglish merchant and the Director of Monopolies, rela. in til e .e rcl t ia o S t.o .P w r e . s t - ~ i'.it from which he was afterwards' conveyed to Tunis ill n t the a d entry een of maltreated some articles and into thrownthe tionat4 irons, The result of the affair was not k_n L own. 49 Pr i4 ice :e) . Prase. ... F i l lto .. rAf i ls BOURSE—P wills, n l i :t r .:E , DN H ES ig D h A es Y t , rtet.ch 5 per Cent/. eX. div. 10 ..... 97 30 ... 1,7 30 ..7. ir, No 4 per Cen's 79 15 ... ", 9 15 ... 79 15 ... 79 15 3 per Cync,.... ...... • na , s _ 33 , 5 ...: - 32 , ... 5325 Bank or rerance , Lattit , ' 64 " 'mo . , mres 5073 —.0075 ....075 ...5075 ' . 1 othit s,:ares 117 4 7 50 ........11 1, 2 4 7 50 . ......17 0 7 4 so .....1:7 50 1..).% ... :i2.7.4 ... ...2% ... 12 ,0 , it.43i ... 104 N ... 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'''' '''''''''''''' ROYAL VICTORIA THEATRE. UNDER THE DIRECTION OF MR. OSBALDISTON. Seventy-fifth time of Miss Vincent in the character of " Su san Hopley ;" third week of Wilks' successful drama of " Raf faells, the Reprobate !" and first week of " The Flying Dutchman," with Childe's Phantasmagorical Representation of the Spectral Ship in full sail. THIS EVENING, OCT. 2, The highly interesting. and pathetic Domestic Drama, called SUSAN HOPLEY ; OR THE TRIALS AND VICISSI TUDES OF A SERVANT GIRL. William Dean, Mr. E. F. Saville ; Susan Hopley, Miss Vincent, the acknowledged Heroine of Domestic Drama. After which, RAFFAELLE TI4E REPROBATE; OR. THE SECRET MISSION, AND THE SIGNET RING. Raffaelle, Mr. E. F. Saville ; Count des Monte, Mr. Dale ; Gablin, Mr. Howard ; Pauline, Mrs. Lee. To conclude with THE FLYING DUTCHMAN ; OR THE PHANTOM SHlP.—Vanclerdecken, Mr. Dale ; Toby Varnish, Mr. Seaman ; Peter Von Bummel, Mr. Gardner ; Lestelle, Mrs. Lee ; Lucy, Mrs. Howard. Boxes, 2s.—Pit, Is.—usller!, 6d. Half-price to the Boxes Only, gt Half-past Eight. ~_ THE RAILWAY SUN, AND THE PA MENTARY SUN, ARE STILL ON SALE, PRICE SIXPENCE EACH. San Office, Sept. 30, 1841.