The Sun. — London, England, 1816-04-06 00:00:00

It Of ' fl;, 11• ile ; ti 4 Cl' . v. ' ile :It ~~, `'~~~~, PI teed in the C ot tun'itta k .when aetails 'dente to di.etisse(f He woul<t pot the Issue of • the , tine tee), 1,11 a 'Comparison of. the I !ill9lnit A,t. the chafit,i for the Staff in former titneS,':hut nn this eiinpl e • point, whether' the 'Staff' novie Ptul , 4io exceeded or not the necessities of the ease I The papers, before the House contain- ed ordy the reduCtions which •had, fatten; or were In take place, in General 'OfficerS: The reason of that was plain ;_ for without having hatl,a coin , lunt:ication with the Officers commanding con (4) 7e reign stations ) it Would have been tneredeitmen to theAlouse to pretend to state' what rotation:4 in. Adjittents General, Quarter.Masters•Generel ., 6te. were likely to be effected. • commenicatiete had beeu matte to thotte. Commanders, in - which they had been desired to turn their attention to that. subject,-and to. assign,reasons , for the sop. pression or the continuance in certain appejete• Mews. Without such information, it would be impossible, at home, to fix What reductions should take Piece in. distant stations. -It the Hon. Gentleman compared the Estimates of former years With those on the table, he would. See that the chief (Het ence was occasioned hythe - absence of all the minor items to which he• had alluded. 10 1702 there were only three head Sarge Ons iu the hospitals in the West Indies ; would •it be proper.te trust the health of the present force to so small a lumber /elt must not be forgotten, that with the increase of colonies and of garri bons, the number of Staff Officers must be aue e - Ineotede A's to the Staff Officers at home, th e office of th e Cenonander-in-Chief should be con sidered as a public department. He trusted that lie would be aide in the Committee to justify the charge propoSed. Ilttet:itts• objected to going into the Com. inkier, because all that could he done in it wanid be t'' augment •or diminish a sum, and the main question whether such a number of Officers should ,be employed, could not he discussed. llis lion. Friend had justly said, that some increase tai ht - be expected: in the 'charge on the Staff on foreign stations, but not at augmentation of three and •faiir to one. This ealled for explanation, tint no satisfactory explanation had been given: It had been said that it would be a delusion to pretend • to rodeo" estimates of the reductions which might 'take place on remote stations; without hating paid previous entnumniCations with the Cemetnntlere ou those stations lilt it woeld a still gloater delusiOn. to produce estitnatei by which the house would vote large emes-elnumey which might . not be wanted at all. Those conscientious Ministers,, who would not impose any aIIOCCCSSary bltrthen upnn time conuity, had prorksed some. time ago 41,,0001. for thieStaff in Irebtodi but they had since discos erect, that out of 48,0001. 15,0001. mOlt be saved this year, and 25.000/. the next. Similar re ductions would take place on other point s,if the pre sent Estimates were senthacic. Noone believe' it neeessary that the expense of . 1802 should he trebled and quadrupled. The French ,. the Spa. Word, the Dutch, had navies at that period;' they now had none, and our colonies coulif' . not thole fore he threatened. appiicatiOn hid been made to Gellert)! Officers coninemdiek . , abroad to know bow many deputies they would Went. 'Could any application possibly be Made to Worse persons 1--- As to the offof the-Horse Guards, he Would say, that he did not 'vial: the atthiry of the Duke of York to he reduced, as the services and exertions of his Hoye! 'llighoees hail been most meritorious eluriue the war. lint this should he as a enmpli- Inent to the Royal Dufve, and "lot to make ilia oftjee of Commander 'Chief, -es the Noble Lutd had stated,. a Department ,of Government, , In fact, that office should be.abolished altogether; for when e War Secretary was kept under the name of the Colonial Department, the whole was a scandalous, waste of the : public money." Mir rivers forget that litionaearte Was.at St. Helena. The enemy wits no' longer at our doors ; and Ali. ui , ters must act front motives of strict economy, or they would not do their ()idyl() the ,House or to, the country. The reduction for aellich they now took credit lilt the country ,• three times worse thao at the Peace of Amiene. Lord CASTr.ralcAGli wished the Right I . lon. Gentleman not to misapply his' excellent . under.' standing se far as to represent the estimates pro:. posed by his Majesty'saMinisteri,as lasting peace estimates. If he had said it mice be had repeated it twenty times, that they were. not •peace esti :mates. Government were not •in a sienetion• to make such. They bail' itheady 'considerably re ship:et, the ; Staff, 'anti the papers before the (louse shuwed whet further recleet ions wonhi be effected in the coarse of the year, but it, was not fair to say, that.theyi:got.ve . a view' of the permaeetit este,. bliihment of the country. There were local de tails witich_qoveromeet Could not procure with out previous communication with the Officers eommanding•ebroad. The Right Hon . . Gentle man interred .that the office of Connitenilerzine Chief Might be abolished, because a %Var. Sepres, ta4v of.Stete was kept, But he uo longer existed as a Secretary at War; he was note solely loe the Colonial Department, and not inure able to sup fly the place 0 Commander in Chief than the See cretary for the k'oreign Office, A Commander in 'Chief seas how .more necessary than at any former 'period. Our army wtts very different from wi.ot it . was formerly. ,Scarcely two regie •suients then kneW'eeeh other, and a British army *sstuthiell fur the first time, except as. far es cou rage was concerueil; would have been bat little efficient-. It; effitieney depended -in a great mea sure en the exertions and soperietendence of a Coala)aiitter in Chief. The Right lion. Gentle. mu objected to going into the Committee, be cause $ . 111113 could only be modified.; hot could not tllr item be •oltogether rejected ? The question utt , not whether time charges of the present year 'he' Made on the model of 180'2. We nail nirw Cotonies, — tint taking • the expense in mond numbers at 100,0001. the charge would be wily about 30001. a year for the Staff of each Co-, 11'14• SuPptising'ei , ert the rednetions to be more 'considerable daring the present eelr than Was an tieipated, the money voted: by j l orliairlOt w " ld. be.earefully Stived ti, the 'Millie- If the Hpuse , 41tOuseit go into. the Countlitree, it would •be iin to know to %diet ?iart;taller point' the Hon. Gentleteau himself objetfed. Generel.GescotoNe doubted whether th e , re ' deeti ous already'efieeted had not been earrieo too Ile•olticrted to _ removing thy Comill4Pder in - Chief front.larnitiO, Rml 14 ,, j0 Genet Si at I,*el'o lof 30 - (V titi 590 0 be most retuittibt: to: i4t:...e * tlrti colittnatyl no4.tlip!p,trollage of site . , .Ar,my *ill the. bands of Govertihteitt.. [J . coneeivvd tligt De partnient`to he ref the, Doke of York than'in any, - other. It . etiiil4 not be used for the purposebt litilinlitee in that and train hiq heart be most kacred'y believed that lit no period had there 11,:eo I ss i itl is i c bet wee!' the Gcleertittient and the Army (ha„ at the present' tinte. Mr.TtcaNcy inquired whether his Hon. Friend medut to say, thnt the . Dl)ke of Fork , As•as peudeutof Government ? • Genoa': GaseolOwv. : explAined, that , through his being at theliptcl of the Army, he coneeiyed Government eouldnot use the %Minnow; in Ova •Artily as a Means of procuring undue !that 11011 , 3 e. .111 r. TIERNE' V could not consider the Constitn.• Ciao in safety, if the Army were not within . the. .controul of his M o jesty's . roOdential:aud spbn`sible•ailvisers. Wi t t Wall his respect for his Royal Ilightiegs,,he could notrecognize• any other • constitntional influence! than GiiseOidNa•nieant the influence which the•disposal of the Army might procure iu the House,. , , • • Mr. TIERNF.V considered the. comrnind of the Army with the wore jealousy, because it was held by a member of the. Royal Fatriliy, :than if it were even in the %rink of 1 Minister. . Mr. BENNETT stated, that the expense t of the Staff of the Horse Guards in 1198 WWI 2,7 0 0 1 ; 111 1800 , it was 7,6381: and the army eonsisteit of 260,000 Men. How then, IPtvith an army of only . 149,000 men, could the,ehArge for the ..ttne De- Tartment flow amount to 16,4271..? Ile disap pro—ed of the, diSrt'Spectllll uittnncr iu whi::!lt Noble Lord had spolien of the army hi Ranier times. • ,He had repre , enterl them, as little better than Trained Pantl%. Had he then ci)rgott'eti lilett beim,: atraillies; and the tiiiittlphs of the past ?-- On 'looking at the papers, lie had.seen that the charge fortheßnyal.Waggott Tvitin was lust y eyr :157X01. Among other items, two thousand and some odd bittnfrerli: of horses liad been pitraliaSed for 65,91131.. ,One Would think that _litany would Stave Sieee'becn resold, and the produce carried to the scale' of reduction:. otttot up olds t f 2000 horses `bought (Or 66 - .9631,, three horses only lied been resold, .an►l the , pnblic . benefited to tree amount of 15 guineas. net hen complained of: the injustice of nut extending the increAse in the half-pay, •which had been granted a. few. SesSious• ago to Officers who had !pitied the Artily since 1793,; to all Officert in general.' . •' After ai few . words from Lord CASTLIIIISAGIT anti General Piton, the House went into a Com- Mittee. • Lord PALNICRSTON, in reply to what an Holt. GeOtleman bad mentioned. respecting the Mtg.: - gun Trdiet, stated, that the Mite of ‘Vellingtyn. never would go . into the • field wit hoot having .a leree COrp4 of that description with him.• It was applied' to the service of hospitals; end' nfter• the . battle of Waterloo had: been employed for sixty hours In .carrying off the wounded, by wit,ch means many valuable lives had been saved. Its numbers not being deemed sufficient previous to the commenceenent of the campaign, the louses hi question had been purchased to nue - went There were now five troopt , with the Duke of Wel-. lingtou, and the rest were tot home, employed in transporting the sick, and'its the Militat As to the wish expressed by the lion.•Ge.atle- Ain't% to extend the increase in the half-pay to ell, ,' , Otthl.va, it . was an additional instance, that whilsrt alt teve looking ,to. retrenchment, . yet every' ,iticitviJ.,4l. could not refeaiu train pro posing some point of m106116'06'1; The inereaie in the half-pay had, at thetime it was granted:, been limited to tlerise.'who ,been;••or Were to be, tedeced jn 1.8-I.4,7tind, to those who had beet" , • obliged to leave the service since 1793, 'in ,Iceount of wounds ti ml it'isrtiiities. Those, who- have von lout arily quitted the ariny.were not thooglit en.; titled to that increase, became if they had eltrasen to retire front the service, it Was riot fair they shorid be asavell.rewarded , is .those %.4,0111111i or 'reduction had alone compelled - to Withdraw. As-to, the-system of retrenchment adopted hy..Mi. tiistersior ,the present. year, •it went as: far as it was possible at this period.., On.the Home Staff, there would- be.only one Major-General in North Britain, where there ,used to be two beforit. There would- he another for the northern t wrts'of the. kingdom one et. Portsmouth, one at Ply.. mouth, (mein Kek,.anti..in Guernsey and Jur•icY the.ee „woold,,,be : two .51.alor.tienerais in-lead of .Lieutenant-Generali... le North- America,„thg: C wonld; be , one • Cotimmuder -of, the .Fortres.i.• in • Canada two Major-tienerals ; in Nova 'Scotia two General Offieets. In the Windward and _Leeward iStarldi the Staff wonted bu composed of one Commender, of. the FarCubL Mut lone Major (Jenertls, instead: Of Lieutenant-Generals. At .Jemaica., there svOidd he . only. one Oeneral. was intended •to . remove _the Mejor,Getierel from Gibraltar,• and: toldace the General on - .whom the command woOlsli devolve on civil, instead of staff pay. At Malta there would, he , one .Liettletoun-Gleneral, anti in the • ,lonian. Islamic two Major.Gerierels. There:would be besides a Commander in Chief tor Malta and the lottitto Islands, With poWer to reside in' either elf those places. .There Would. be at the .Cape. of • Good Hope,. one Major-General, the ettnie.at the Mauritius,: and at Ceylon the Officer in command Would only receive the civil pay of Governor,„ , Ile concluded. by moving that wpm 0f,275,804L. 10s. ld. be voted to defray the expellees of the General Stair and Hospital -Officers on foreign Mr.TIURSEY should not attempt to argue with the Noble Lord, where. argument would he use leas but he withed that his silence should not be uitsteken. for eon victim), Mr. Wm. WY at.ra: conedeed that the St ail vita, blishment at Ceylon,-was too Considerable tar a garrison whichouly consitted of 1400 men.- Lie then adverted tattle office of Coinmander in Chieft• and pointed out the appointments of .Chaplain and Surgeon as unnecessary to that office. . Lord Pattseastok said that they were attached to hit Royal Highness:at , Fielti Marshal and not as Commander in Chief The _Staff at Gsyiost could, not b. ,canckf4educed during Inn present year; its A grelt ).Dilitltrs4 6 l44,tv4,fottilingi Ind ti *gelieria SAVYCI liking in Mit iytand. , • - . Nit % Asettutomets:*as Inulerbtbutilti objtt.tct the Holluititmoit () t -Gepeiil ()Meet tO the 'Com:. • "roand lirtena. lie also tltmigitt?,.tisat it tva4 lotoreettstAy;lolotiaghilf gsr xisons it. ri,rtn AVi'diLml and •A4igo;Z tt SC01.1:111a Vort (ivarge he excepted, oil A . ( . totkot of its "sittiktioli , ..•''fhe two ffiroict had beet - erected nn 1•00,/,..t.a.a.sate Uf tbiogs which bad noionger -atiy c;sistellee., 'Lord PALar,Rst ON . ,Tefelltleil the appointmet . male for St. fielena. As In' the fort's in Scotland; If they (iiLl not exht it might he a ytestion wile; ther they shouiii I, , construetylii but ai they were, Et tni,:.1,1. Itut he propct: to let them fail into decay, 'or to destroy them: • Mr. Pifstinti.Y asked avbat:AviA the ":total ex pcole (his, owntry ‘youltl have to„bear tor gm-1,11(11g tit . ernonof liiionap.irte itt Si. kleleika.l lie could not exactly •tntke it out from' die Papers beford . th.lionse.; •••••i , ' • Loril CATI'Li,REAtiIt WAS not .prepred, to give that. inlorimpion but Atiggest(l, if 1-IClit. Gentleman vvottra inal;e a mo tion on the subject.; it attended to: • • • rt t 4 N.O it)gokf(l whettier,the stdary of. the Governor of! St; }Mena ,was incluzleki t he est h i l a t t i for tt►r Stuff of that Islittid ' . Lord I.:,i'l.EiLEA6it stated that the Clouse would feel thattit. livlepa,stootl i►l.a very' litierent tip' .84491103,i:r0w that ot, our . other Colunies: It eranahiettx trust in which the interests, not of Ali;rte,.lmt of the rvere.itivolvect. 'As to the ;Auk Mt' the Officer appointed to the eolotp.timl of that island, it was but fair , not to ime'of a lower gr.ttle to exercise authority °ire. the per Son 'en!rustell to his care. \Vith re spect to the expense. the country were not• liable co the whole of it,. but tuerely„to tkfe, excess }lt-:; ctu . r ,. ( l b e yond the usual establishment ligpt . ,by., •the: gist Intlia.(;omp:my at that "place. 'I vertior , na ittlitaryallowance but merely itis 4 - tenNEt coiltewitql that the Allie4t'on'ers I ought to bear their share of the expenat. I,lortl 'I3,CSTL HAt; II repeated the atiitiattees he,ltatt on a tormer occasion given to then tlidt ; the Allied l'ocis would have been. • pleasect to take the custody of Buonaparte tip :m theint , e;V:s, anti to relievit us num any of the, expense.. It wool(' not Ile fair, titer, tore, to c'a)l upon them to do tit hil t they would .30t lkftVe. requireo of us. Neitlier wo uld it have.heen gene roust() Imre given itp.t he person in piestion, who hail sorrentleref) ltiotseg to us alone, nor pritiltot to stiffer I►im to be kept on the Continent, where th e influence ni Lis name and (it his vicinity might have excited fresh commotions. 'Mr. TIBIINCY and •Mr. l'oNsoNnY mai,ntained, ibpt. I}ince Franee vas laid wider ()1)16141ft: 0 11'W support the army ,liept, within her frouties, she inight also pay her Share of the expense_ of secur ing nuonaparte,. whose safe custody was iti fpet • of still greater importancoo her than to Ole rest 'of the xvorld. rim! CASTLiREACiII Said , tliat F rance was to pay cOutributions,' to the amount of 8() milliOns ster-' ling, and that had been urged by the Honourable Gentleman opposite as mthe gresttest‘objection to the pease whieh bad . heirs:concltitleti, they now widotilfurther.expeuses to have :been'impos eil upon her. Air, Wm. WY.tiwirth ought .it ,aufair. Allied Powers should possess, by ti eaty, en equal command with us-over linonapirtc.,.. when they bore no . sharc or the expenses attenthint"on custody. HANtmentst..ty inquired .whether, any pro pouf hat) been made to the Allies„to defray a pull tioise expenses ? , Lord CASTIABSAQH lllOught it Wolllci nave men IMlClicale to press foreign -1. 1 0 , , , erVi0 bear a share in expenses ivltich were to be te4tillited 'by anoi.ber lover. It would also have been 'beneath, the . tf,ignity of the country.toltammnie.an. Hicat A)y,whicit We • Sitothiti lint' have hen <nble to' 'scoil'ii single vessel to St. Ildena without the ap probation of the Allies. . Mr. ABFACaoMniti said, that if no step . Walt taken next year respecting the 'Forts in Scotland, he ,hont , i bring the subject ttefore.the klutise.; Mr. l'oxsoxity, in reference‘to ivipst had fallen from the Nohle Lind, sate no more in IT'. gnlatiog the es l ienceof iluonapartes 6.115104. with .theAiliet4 Powers, than in settling-the , rearetive ahinunt of the oontrihntions which they - 'were to meetve from Flaucc. Ile could not See how the :eiignity of Ow country was at ad concerned in titis liart of tie • PEEL co.itended.that there- was .Sornething creditabe to'the lb Government, in having thia• person in 0:tr• enitottv; 'tottler the' eireont7 stances its which he. WAS 110 . 1ot:1131 Mr. P4NVlNUY'rejoinetk-thitt the . question• was very different trout that of "the eustod4i of.a . Mere prisoner of war: Tits. eliarActer 1")( the count m y was concerned in. preserving , his' person stife . , but lit did not sec hots its charktrerWaa concerned in .byating the whole, expeoce,of,ltia,kiitiiity. Mr. WYNNE concurred-in this opinion. lie ad .verteut to the Ittatt Staff, which he coa4idereti as tar too larga. Mr. nal, defended this pArt of the establish went, observing, th a t there latt.nothing lot wincu .the Irish Government was 'list etinC:rned. The 1-CdnetiOn that h^{i been made proceeded from the Commander in 'Chief, and the (.10 - v . einnient of Ireland actually*proresttil too great. It was only proposed to retain one Lieu tenant-General and ten Major-tie'l4e'rile: - The Won. Gentleman- Anus.Lbeatware-thatit - mas most,, material that, there ,shritild be a sufficient number of ,Major-Generals, front the ,important duties 'they had twin:H . 6mi. When application was made .to the tlivil-POwer,- these• Officers had to 'report to Abe payOpmtn t their opinion, font witich.,it, was judged, wheth,tr-,there„was a neeesity for sending to any quariee . an addittiinal forc,' It was proposed•lii retain also' seven KaNistatit- Adjutant-Generals. The Right Hon ; Gentleman then stated ihnt in the first Estlinthes, were preparcd-inNoyember, thera.wits a by.ontitting to insert the reductioni-,which were at tlitit time idended - to be made. • Mr. WYNNE complained of chastging•the'Esti. states from day to day. Lie hoped whatever Infirittrikti wok to be: made;• would.tnke` ttaCC In tht wl'cte Out, Mr. rzrz.tissured the . Hon: tientlenntii, that 1E rpt. eiyetti ilie Oinioti of the Copitilandet-tar-Chief in Ireland as to the-reflue tioiss lliat timid be' inadti.:- • • On the Resolution being nto . red fur the sum of ! dt•fraying the contingent:eypences %)f the' Pablie.llepattuttnts in Great Britaid Irelatlil,• '-t• • IlOttErt -whited to know whethe it was Intended by ',the Nol4. Lord AO snake any redkiA:- 6011 in the ConituissAry Oduerglis' fiAiry and De=. partment,;as . teeminnentlell. by COnrinittee ? • Lord PALMEUSTOI4 - tht't cottsnler= able business Jet to he . done ilt (11 , it DepArunfent, It . Wits ,not tikely, that tote reduction . it s . titiestititt . - touldiake place-immediately; The Resultition was.agreed Lind. TALmutsi., , previous to moving for • 10.;1131': for the charges the' Volunteer Ctirpi Great Britain, stated;' that It was lute:Med to ..redoeF the allowance of the r Veoinanry Cirialryif .for•ehithing -and general'expenses,• • one ;•lialf, Or front 91. to 21. per man per annum. •Mr,•lify and Si: J. C. liwiSigit 'spotte in high.terunt-of the utility of this species. of force': Tliefariner Gentleman ilicAight the allowance tended was toostnall, and that it ought to be SL per man ;. the latter lore ttstimbny' to the neces ir:ty of jteepitig.,- ,up these corps in the neighhour..' hoods of 'the-clothiers and colliers. There was nw species of force, in his opinion,so:vinittently 'ciliated to maintain the itblie. peace'. . After some exidanations . frout Mr. Rost N SOX in. defence of the .rediteied aliowante, oit the ground .that they would not he.suiviected to so witch welt , and teat, from•being called out times in a .year instead of twelve, the Resolution orate; agreed to. • , Lord . l i st,Staas - rou stated, respecting the Lout. Militia, that: it was intended to relieve PobliC from the expense of this force, tvithout altogether annihilating its organisation. It. Was intended to dischaltge all the seileantl, corporals, and dront 7 niers, to place the adjutants on lodf-pay, ..to take the. arms under charge of the ordnance, and tha clothe under that of the Storeleeeper•Gclieq, iu allow the OttlcerS to retain their commissions, • 'and ro let the meti serve out the remainder 14 their time. this force was so conneetett with our , Constitution, that it would ,not be desixable:to annihilate it all 'at once. The sum stated as re.. quired j ....teas 100,0001: ,but it was now uscertuined, tharo,oool. would he - sufficient, and even this would he re,lnced, alter the adjutants and Oar-, ict-rosters, who would be simie time in inakiug 0a their accounts, were dilpensed with. This and the various Resolutions, were then 'agreed ,to, and the Report was ordered.to be re . eeived . ou .Monday. NAVY ESTIMATES. Mr. BRoOpEN hay . ing brought up. the Report. off' the N avy Estimates, and the, question being put that it be received, and the Resolutions reap SeCpnd time, , Admiral N4IIICHPAt objected to any forther.P-ro . eeeding night, ,as,many Naval„Officeri, rvtro intended to speak' on the different Resolutiong, had gone,awn on an understanding that the fle . . po.r : t would not be brought up, because'it had not taken precedence of, the Army, . A desultory conitertation ensued on this point, in wWch Mr. licf,aeb. Sir M. W. Millet., Messrs. trttgbani, Tierney, tacker, '‘'reem mile, w the, Chatictlior of the 'F.,%ebegner, J.Yorke.7a , gll.., Ca4tit.reagh„ participted„ The result was an understanding that tAie Ntiv i d ileaibcr4 who, .Fere.o,o4,prikeot would Ikaye, an, opOortimity of next irage, of time measure, , anti the Resolutcons be ing. read, were (after ,a,variety of observations upon each of •theta) agrectilte.• Ott, the ,Resolution. 1)On i'eft Keneeting . the tutu for Boilaing and. Repairs of Ships, t Mr. Ritonotikm said, he felt pleasure in bear ing tef,timony to the importance of. the ,plans adopted by Goyernment„hy employing scientific n . ien in the di ff erent Department of the He haul hilt just become acquainted with CI jeer, and took:the.ealdiest opporttthity of express ing his - gratititation at the tidvantageB which' he bad' been Assured had resulted from it. Sir J. youg.o was sitr c that the More the Hun. Member in q uired, the more his 'enlightened niiml would be convinced, that nothing had been tindonehrGoviranient, which they thought would. honelit.,the service, On one Of the sulriequent Resolut.iom being read, • Admiral ArAlqiyitm expressed regret at the great • reductions name in the .M .trines. Ile desichbed .the luconeeri . ences felt at the commencement of m 14.1 r, unto a dcficienoy in that part of our tout:. lie beseeched MinisteiA to-keep up the 3,000 lila rinolntendeletto be dNatisSed in addition to the 6;0.0 that to he initiotained,, and to triakei.' proportionate reduction in tlie,anity.• He thimght the carps oriNhrtitlWWhiell 11111 iirk 'glorimuly ' titigni,iiled itself, ought to be kept up not to 9 hut to 10,000 men.. „ Mr, For nes . dbieribed the hard case of an •of;», ficer who land lost taint); in the service, antqwho„ iti .respeet to ,the proAsiptt made for him, wen, pltieeil by the ariangemeiiG the,,servlce in a worse - slturaiwi than he resold have been in, bad h . g not los.t. Ills leg; The''.liOti'. Gentle IliAn craw pr , l. ee,diflg.tf.k.o4el, .94 the t!j , !(- when be was called to order by Sir G. Warrendee 4 and Mr. Rose, - who contended the statement of the Hon: Niernber''cottid not now ,be , regularli brought before the House: The Speaker, on be ing.appealed to, was', of the sante, tipiniotylc,the sabieet,ont dropped, and the remaining Resoin. dams . agreed•tq: , • LUAUS Trif,', Ap - MittALTy'. On tt M. o ;ton that- the iforer Report of the Na4.llltimates.shottld he taken iuto further con sideration, . Baotionsm. ca11e,.1, - the attention of the House to.t he salaries 'paid to the etiaitnivsioneri of the, Admiralty rthee,were, now sefon its ntunher ; he,belieqd in solve,: instances five haul been thought sufficient. The I•alaries'iieid.to the Junior Loyd* Amounted to 'OM/. and the Salary o f tha' pirst Lord of the .Adtniralty was 50004 tucking an annual charge . uf 1.1 ,000/. in the whole. He, 441 not think the office of First Lord of the 'Admiralty overpaid, and. he considered the Sea. 4ords, who, fistl, important ds,nics,,to Perform ,. to recei.ye A ttp„lj,ttle, while their (the Civil. 'Fords) were O W a great deal too much toe d 01,04.