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relying it to be a milk-and-water Petition, which ' of Government were the cause of their distresses tanold have the same course in the House that He thought the reply of the Earl of Liverpool to most of the same kind had." The last of these the Duke of Hamilton, w h ich had been read in Gentlemen he had written to, to know what inn- the House on a former evening, was a sufficient Live bad induced hint to put his name to a doc u - indication of , he desire of Ministers to do all in ment of t h at description. This reply be would their power to remove the distresses of the Coon take the liberty of reading to the House. It try. If the persons in the suffering disn'icts could was to the following effect :—" He had signed it not see any fit work to which it would be heurfi at the particular request of a Gentleman who had cial to apply the indestry of the distressed, how begged him to go immediately for that purpose, could it be_ expected that Government could, who or it would be too late. He confessed that upon were enacqtteinted with the localities of those reading it, he had thought it ridienlous,—(A parts ? laugh)—and particularly as on that account he Mr. GRENFELL said, be had been accused of thought it was not likely to do any hatm, to having sphken distespectfully of the persons oblige his friend he had signed it. He tiOW how- who had signed this Petition. He believed ever declared, that since he had been aware of its that nothing which had fallen from him could real object, and particularly of tite allusion it have that tendency. All that he had stated le made to the Bullion Laws, he was sorry that he hated to the manner in which the Petitioners had signed it, and if there was any way of with- bad keen obtained to sign their names.. - drawing his signature, he was desirous of doing Mr . D OUGLAS observe d , ‘ teat t petition s till it." "Under these circumstances he would *ski not profess itself to be from the Merchants and if it were right that this Petition should g o forth Trade Cit y of Loudon. It only said trom rf 0. t to the world as the Petition of the eMerchauti certain Merchants, &c. He thought it the duty and Traders of the City of London ? Under the of Government ro consider of the present dis pretence of suggesting the eepedieuey of alttriog- • tresses of t country. the restrictive commercial laws, estni else Mr. FINLAY explained. lily of extending the Chinese trade, its main ob. Mr. BROUGHAM expressed his regret that his ject was to disturb the rules and regulations es Hon. Friend, the member for !Harlow, should by law established for the payment of bullion, to fi: ,, ee beet betrayed into those le marks which be change the currency.—(Criei of " No.")—tie Iran tu ar e 00 I teetetitioners w i t h out k now ing w ho bad a right to state his opinion on thit tliey were. Had he seen theienanees he was con and stack it was, that he did think it extremely fident that he would not have been inclined to probable that the Petition proceeded from a party /tees them w i th i• t istespect. who, thinking it possible that they tuight find themselves crippled .in the Fends, an d i n o v er - Mr. GRENFELL was not aware th a t h e b a d trading—a species of gambling—were not. endea- treated them will; disrespe c t. vouring to create 20 216t111 throughout the coon- Mr. BRozsc Ham n , gged to ask, if it was treat try, that if the systette of paper-currency, which ieg them with no disrespect, to speak of eighty be (Mt Q ) declared had almost resulted the couit- i of the Wrist respectable persons in the city, as try, should be"abolished, the prevailing distresses l wishing to get rid of that arrangrintni which had would be au g roc si t e d....(H tat IT • • been - determined on Parliament with raseect to Mr. lavri.te in explanation said, that some of the Mink, by a \ side wind, because it thteatened the most respectable names in that i . , ,reat city were' to interfere with their speculations and over efi to this petition ; and would be ((mod kisch traeliee as lie trusted .would repel the insinuation at th e M r r• Gatteeeet, said, he lead made no such as- Citoileinatt,—(Heat, bear, bear ”—The tp . rtioto. • • lion Geutlemett lied read a letter, and stated Mr. BROUGHAM said, if the Hon. Gentleman communications, its order most unfairly to, throw bad not Ilse(' words to that effect. be (Mr. disgrace upon she petitioners. It was a most t4l Brougham) knew ai little of what Isis Hoeour watrautable attack on these petitioners, who came able Friend had said, as ilia Honourable Friend humbly to the Bar of the House, in oz'dcr to state knew of the Petitioners when he spoke of them so their grievances, as they were privileged to do. harshly. H e d e pl ore d t h e ras h ness w hi c h h et i l e d He thought th e subject one of too serious a tie- his Hon. Friend thus to express himself, and was tare to be treated i t s such a slighting mintier as sorry his zeal should have carri e d him away on the Hon. Gctidernais baddatte.—(Hear, bear !) ; this orcusion, as, in his opinion, it had frequently Ile hoped the House would not allow itself to re- dime on others when the bullion question came eeiee any mitavo.rable impressions in coeseqeetice. i behtte the liostse• It should seem that there wae —(bleae, repeated that be hoped ..a difference of opinion not only in that House, Go , cinment sc,“ild tither make some propo‘itioit I but in another House, for his linn. Fr teed might on the stihject of thepetitLin, or that a Commit- have foam! in the list of Petitioners the name of tee would he appointed to inquire into the topics f 116 own brother. Now, though be did not :mew alluded to. /h a t they 'were united by the sattie fraternity of Mr. .1 SMITH was sere his Hon. Frieetl near ; political feelings a s of blood— him (Mr. Gieniell) would be sorry for the cies-M r. GRENFELL said, the Petition was not sign , racier he attemteed to give the petition, tvhen lie i eel b y 3 b rot h er o f hi s. knew how notch he had been teishiformed respect in;remarked, it. He (-Geld state the truth of what the Hon. I he, frotrr the- n a me, j u d ge d i t to h ave Getelentan opp.isite (Mr. Irvine) said as co the I br(liter, tespeCability oi the sienatores, and the object of ; be" signed by a very near relation, and this the yeti ;111;:.. bee t; sdffi c i eut to a s s ure hi m t h at the :ioners It bad originat e d with a m en who must . , !'tot otters were actu a ted by n o i m p ao p er stood too high in the City to he stipposed to enter t•c•e s , h a d b e ! me l te d at t h e s i gnatures b e f ore he ttto boo speculations o f the character described by his made his speech. It was a s k e d w hy th e P et i t i on Hen. Friend, and who, if he were to ewer into (tad not come u s en et There was a very goo d such, bad ample. means of carrying himself tlootigh thene lie b elieved the , a notion of the petition teesoe to be given.- They had waited to see if did no , exist in the mind of any living man two Parliament would not, without their intervention, (its lat tore it was re a dy t o p resen t.—(H ear , attempt to relieve the distress which p reva il e d. From the nature of the whole system of our com bear !)—'Anti viewing the c ir cum st ances o f h urry triesce, front the changes produced by a tran s i t i on in which it had ben got up, l ie th o u g ht it sur from war t© peace, and fr o m v ar io us circum priaieg th a t i t wes so numerously and respect a bly stances, he saw no prospect of good r esu l t i ng signed In the conversation which he b a d h a d , whit its original projector no s u bje c t cou ld h ave ! from any inquiry originating with a ny p arty b ut the Ministers. The case w a s one th a t requ i re d been mote remote than that of the bullion ques that the Government itself sho u ld b e nd i ts m i n d Lion. It was in coesequetsce of the failure of the motion of an Hon. Friend (Mr. Bennet) being to the subject. With respect to the plans for slid-deftly paying off the National Debt, or a uederstood to be owing to his havin g mi xe d ti p s eon irrelevant questions with it; th a t the id ea.o f theiderable part of it, which h e h a d seen suggeste d , present petition was first suggested. H e t rus t e d, ; le e thought it right to say, that th e a d opt i on o f therefore, that the sufferers in the commer c i a l or - any one seemed likely to produce th e most seri ders would be enabled to draw a ray of hope from I °us consequences, and for the. next five or si x years to leave the whole pr o p er ty o f t h e country the treatment which this petition would receive. — (Hear, bear !) at the mercy of solicitors, conveyancers, and for- Mr. RICARDO eontemplated with satisfac- tune•hunters. Of such plans he disapproved al tion the very general concordance which the together. He considered the present Petition one of great importance, an d regretted that it could laws passed last year on the subject of th e currency, seemed to meet with. The state of not have been sooner presented. the currency, he conceived, to be the cause of the Lord CASTLEREAGH would not prolong the con distresses which existed in all the countries of versation, for he was sure that however proper Europe. if the profits on capital were high'in that the subject of it should hereafter be debated, another countryegand low in this, it .would have a yet at present to enter on a question so wide, and natural tendency to make' capital travel out of this 1 that embraced so many topics, could lead to no country into others— It was a question how far practical advantage.- It might produce a great bad legislation had been the cause of augmenting practical inconvenience, by adding to the anxiety this evil. He thought the Corn Laws greatly already felt out of doors ; and by unsettling the aggravated the state of the money mat ket. They public mind, it might aggravate the evil which it certainly had a tendency to raise the price of a was their object to <Ulundi') or remove. He per most essential necessary of life. That again would fectly agreed with the Honourable and Learned have the effect of raising the price of labour ; Gentleman that the present petitioners were en which, diminiabing the profits of capital, tended titled to the most reipecttul attention. He directly to aggravate the distresses of the country. should be sorry for the House to separate in (Hear !)—lt was a system founded on good policy, the belief that the Government had forgot to turn as he had before said, for a Government to pay its their attention to the subject of the petition, debts as it went on. That the Government of this On the subject of the arrangement made with re country was in debt he was sorry for; but that specs to the Bank, be insisted that every princi being the case, he thought the best thing they pie of practical wisdotn and state policy required could do would be to pay them off. All capitol them tp adhere to the decision which had been that went from this country, was exonerated, as come"to by. Parliameot, and the safety of the it were, from the burthens of taxation, which ; in country depended on their taking care to do consequence, fell heavier on that which remained. 1 I nothing that might shake that. Nothing would He should propose to assess all capital that went , tend so notch to injure confidence anti disturb the out of the country, and make it pay its propor- whole transactions of the country, as suffering it lion accordingly. He did not agree with the to be a doubt whether this would be maintained Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Irvine) that it would be 'or not. This he wished especially to guard advisable to extend to the Bank the power of is- t egainst, and. Parliament" having pronounced its suing bullion in two metals. The more invariable decision on that great question, it was of the a currency could be made to be, the more perfect greatest importance to know that from that de it would be. One metal was, of course, less cision no attempt would be made to depart. liable to variation than two, To find an invari- Mr. El.etoe corroborated the statement of his able standard would he impossible; for metals, as Hon. Friend (Mr. J. Smith) with respect to the well as every other commodity, would always be origin of this Petition. He objected to setting subject to fluctuation. on foot atrunlimited inquiry, and he agreed that Mr. FINLAY declared, that if a Committeeshould the responsibility of taking up this subject ought be appointed to consider of the grievances corn- to be left to the Government of the country. plained of in the Petition, no Committee Mr: Alderman Wool) haviag heard that a Yeti would ever have had a more difficult task.— tint> was preparing on the Bullion question, had He thought there would be enough to do to exa- made some iuquiries on the subject, and could mine each question separately. He thought that bear testimony to the sottement of his Hon. and a most desirable Object was to remove the delu- Learned 'Friend, .that many of those signing it sion front the people's minds, that the measures s were friendly to the principles of the Bullion Cum- tnittee. He was satisfied that the real object of the Petition was inquiry. Mr. Alderman HRYGATE bad declined signing the Petition, on account of its being couched in such general terms, but he knew it to be signed by persons of the first respectability in the City of London. One benefit would result from the proceeding's of this night. Petitioners would not in future be afraid of coining to that House, as it mi 4! t he expected they would, if his Hon. Friend had not been replied to. Persons would naturally be unwilling to come forward it they were liable to be accused of being speculators and over traders, and left without defence. The Petition was then ordered to be pri►►ted. Mr. SCARLBTT bro►►ght in a Bill to remedy certain inconveniences in local and exclusive in ri7,lietions, which was read a first time, and or dered to be read a second time on the 15th of February. '1 he CHANCRLLOR of the EXCHEIZURit presented Accounts of the Ditties paid on Flops, in the last year.—Ordered to lie on the table.—Adjourned till Thursday. FOR TIIE SUN. THE RELIGION, LAWS, AND POLICY OF THE COUN TRY CONSIDERED, In a Series of Letters, most respectfully inscribed to the Pro prietor of E SUN. • LETTER Vl.—RELlGlON.—(Continued) MR. EDITOR—We come now to those theolo- gical fallacies more immediately connected with the Authenticity and Inspiration of the Word of God, points so repeatedly and so ably establish ed, as one would have supposed, must have pre cluded the necessity of any future discussion the subject : yet alas' we have but too recently and top painfully found;that this is trot the case. Still, however, this is not so surpriz;ng, as at first view it may appear, when we retrace these phy sical effects to their metaphysical source, the human mind, the philosophy of which, by (1,!- ',eloping to qur view the otherwise hidden re cesses of thought, motive, and design, will enable us , with some degree of accuracy to account for the physical phenomena which but too often ap pear in the microcosm of man. While the im partiAl plge of history will inform us, that there have been in every age and almost in every cowl- try, the quidani ingenii au►laces, who, prevailing on their own inferior endowments and limited attain- merits, and arrogating to themselves a degree of rese.3rch far beyond the scope of the most trans cendant human intellect; have dared to contro vert, not only the established dogmas of religion, but even the dearest demonstrations of science._ Thus a Newton had for his antagonists, a Leihc ritz, a Souciet, &c. Hervey his professional con temporaries, and evenour Blessed Lord, the Scribes and Pharisees.. This then ‘viiHessen our surprize at witnessing in our day characters whose . names, Mr. Editor, 1 will not stain your columns by in serting; but proceed to their.fallacies. THEOLOGICAL FALLACIES CQNSIDERFD. AXIOM, .5. Assertion is no proof. COIWLLARY. 'Therefore, revilers asserting, that the Holy Scriptures are a complication 9f immorality and falsehood, does not prove them to be such. AXIOM, 6. Tile opinion of ages is more correct, conse (Fiendy more credible than that of a tew indi viduals. COROLLARY, 1. Thus the opinion of ages in favour of the au thenticity and inspiration of the Holy Scriptures is more correct, consequently more credible than that of a few revilers. COROLLARY, 2. Therefore ought to be received. AXIOM, 7. The use of a term necessary to the act or part described does not imply any immoral intention in the writer, or vicious tendency in his writings ; nor does the misapplication of such term by the vice or pervet red usage of any future age prove either of these. COROLLARY. Therefore, neither the use of certain terms * by the sacred penmen, being necessary to the acts or parts described, nor the misapplication of such terms by the vice or perverted usage of the age proves, that such writers were vicious, or their writings immoral. SCHOLIUM. Since as well might it be asserted, that an ana tomical writer or demonstrator is immoral, when describing the unseemly parts of the human body. AXIOM, 8. God is infinite and perfect in his nature and-his attributes. COROLLARY. Therefore Inows what is best at all times, in all places, and for all persons. AXIOM, 9. Man is imperfect in his nature, and finite in his capacity. COROLLARY. Therefore totally disqualified both by nature and capacity for forming a correct judgment with respect to any of these. SCHOLIUM. Hence we may fairly infer the folly and impiety of those who assert, that either the whole, or any part.ot Divine Revelation is unnecessary, as it is presuming to dictate to an infinitely wise God * Such 36 es c ec ti witroach, Levit. xxi, 20. with a few ()Uteri. • what L3WS he ought to give to his iraP erffei creatures. Having considered the principal objections . ; recently and so daring!), urged against both ft° ligion and Law, I shall now close this Letter 0 , a brief application of the subject. Let us, then, my F e ll o w- su bj ec t s , s eeing GOD is infinite, and that we are finite, Cce„ quently cannot compreLend infinity, never tempt to scan the inscrutible designs of intelligence, nor thus aspire to impossibilities• prying into the arcana of Gon. Ever r eeolle ci i ing how fir ile, how absurd, how piesiimptto df d must be, to endeavour to scrutinize the porey o and designs of that infinitely glorious Being %i fills immensity with his omnipresence, surveY f f oi , %lib his omniscie nc e ; w h ose Th rone i s t he verse, and the period of whose reign is Etertl l , l o , But on the contrary, let us check the first! ./ pulses of improper curiosity, moderate the 0 1. °,, of imaginatio ß , and curb the of presoq ( tuous thougut. This is what true Plviloor; will teach us. This is what Religion enjoioP4 Yet should we be inattentive to her heavenly 1 1: 1 and reject her hallowed counsels we sbill oo suffered, like others, to s tra y i n t o t h e impero S mazes of futile speculation, lost to ourselvell usefulness, and to Heaven ! For curiosity fo excite imt•roper inquiry, improper inquiry Jetta', error, error to false opinion, false opinion to y , ceit, conceit to presumption, presumption to IP pliemy, and blasphemy t o m is er y an d disgroce/if When despised by, the Would and abandone4 our Goo, we shall be induced to execrate the 114 : 6 ; tieing we possess, y e t ant i c i pate i ts di ss olufl o with the most horrid emotions j How import s o then must the pious p et i t i on o f t h e R oya l l'saisli/ • appear I IVoo can understand his errors i,l Cleanse thou me from secret faults. Keep 10 0 1 thy servant also from pre,tr nptuous sins . 3 how valuable a tre a s ure a l so must out Bible !14, pear, which furnishes us with such divine insti l ' tions in every difficulty and on every occa,totil d These are (twits, my Fellow-subj ects , may safely defy sophistry with all its subl blasphemy with a ll it s ethont'ery, and dvmocO, with all its rant, either to invalidate or r eftl and which when I come to Law and Niicyi hone more pointedly to.prove. Let us then, my Fellow countrymen, am i d the -changes and ch,nces of thi s morta l irk:, pi our trust in our God, our faith in l'he mer its His Son, our belief in His Word, and pitOr i adora ion in his T,ouple. At the same !lint:. 11 ; - us honour our vene ra bl e Ki ng , an d c l it _erfd l , 4 obey his Laws. %Wile our consciences will : prove our actions, our Country will respect tJrr a and our God will reward them.. Thus shall obtain the meed of honour here and a crow"„,' glory hereafter, ‘Vliat then can a mbiti on itt r vai.lest twonents, or philosophy in its lofrid flights, desire more ? Nay, what can even infie lily in its wildest reveries, or treason whilst set 4, log on his 'prey, and licking his bloody icings* W sire so guest ? Fearful, Mr. Editor, of intruding on your 41 limns at this period, I beg to subscribe myself/ • Your most obedient bumble Set van', , A BBATOP• December 9. * Several others remain to b e re f u t e d, w hi c h it woni— A 01 antcipating our discussion to consider here. IMPORTANT NFORMATION.—Yrom fl eld by the College of Physicians, no less than 40. di e annually in Great Britain of Consunto'i oll and at least 10,000 in London. The late Turnbull, Esq, a' very i ngen i ot i s S urgeon , a4 ell tamed that every 20th person was ruptured ,? These complaints are truly alarming to every dividual who uses the leas , exertion. It is a ) !,, incredible the number that suffer from a ccr" l o# Disease, by being improperly treated. It those circumstances ihduced Dr. Coorrot to sel e s o eminent Physicians and Surge fns, of at l e ast years' experience, to forma Medical Board; +O, since the establishment upwards of 30,000 tients have been cured without con&emeili many of them after hospitals had failed. of Messrs. COOPER a nd C o . arc consu l te d Woodstock street, Oxford-street ; and at lotte House, - Great Charlotte-street, Opposite fr io Rev. Rowland HiJl's, daily, from eight tillei4 l/ 0 Mechanics have advice grat i s every evening, f',lj six till ,eight ; a nd on S un d ay morn i ngs unt il o'clock. *** RUPTURES of 30 years standing ra dicle cured without confinement. *4.* There are private doors at each house,* - private rooms for Females. .4 N.B. The Afflicted w ou ld d o we ll tot e " Messrs. COOPER and Co.' s L ectures on two „re vailing Diseases, published at one shilling, by Harvey, 22, Blackfriars-road. They will s i prove useful to young Practitioners. DREADFUL SUICIDE.-011 Wednesday mor. ll l , last the family o f M r . C oom b s , C ommon Cool, man for the Ward of IValbrook, No. 10, Cl° 0 lane, povrgate-bill, was dreadfully alarmed ; 1 ; / € 41 young woman, n a m e d Ant) Wilkins. who .. / 1 cook in the family, throwing herself from o;' t the third floor back window into the yard of 0 adjoining house, and by the fall was dashed atoms. A disappointment i n a speculatioq ifs trade, to which she meant to devote a li•tlC f e d ney which she had saved in service, is presos l ' 4 r, to have been the primary cause of this rash Verdict—" Insanity." COAL MARKET, DEC. 24. Ships at Market. Skips sold. Prices. 34, 75 Newcastle 27/ 3ss. 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