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tbnt cash payments would not be resumed. The Hon. Member, in conclu.ion, observed, that if this Mil had been more simple it would have been lunch preferable, and that it would be much more likely to he carried into execution if it had beet•►• stripped of all the gniackery which had been in. tro,!need into it. Mr. MAN NIN G took this opportunity of stating, that so tar as his experience went, the utmost attention lid been paid by the Bank to the awl).- rity of Parliament. In order to defend the Bank (tom the charge of meddling with concerns in which they had no right to interfere, the Finn,. Nember said that he could state with certainty, that so far back as the year 1697, applications had been made to the Bank for the public service. To proof of such application, he could read a letter written in 1.701, but perhaps the House would be better pleased with levers written to the Bank in the years 1806 , and 1807, when Lord Grenville and Mr. H. Petty were at the head of the Admi nistration. I n one of these letters it was stated that it would he of most material service to the public if the Bank would advance two millions, which could not be otherwise conveniently ob tained, owing to some delay in passing the Malt Tax.—(Hear, hear !)—The Hon. Member made Some objections to different parts of tine Bill; but in so low a tone of voice,, that it was impossible to bear him distinctly in the Gallery. After some observations from Mr. Peel, in ex planation, and a few words from Mr. J. P. Grant, Mr. Pearse, and Mr. Eloskisson, the 13!11, as amended by the Lords, was read and agreed to. ARMY - EXTRAORDINA RIES. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved, that the House should go into a Committee of Supply, to which Committee .Accounts of the Army Exf raordioaries, 13,rracks, and of the Com misiatiat for L eland, were ordered to be re- ferrtil. "f he House . having resolved itself in the Corn- The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved, that the sort of 1,200,0001. should be granted to defray the expellees of the Extraordinaries of the Army for Great ritain. , Colonel Davies objected to many of the charges thrown on the imh:ic by-the unnecqssary esta blishm?nt!, and useless officers that were retained. lie had tinittosood some reduction of the Mili tary College Establishmt-nt was to take place, and complained of many abuses that -were suffered to exist. 'I hese had come to his knowledge a hundred fold since the inquiry into the Military Establishments of the country, and be therefore thought no apology necessary for giving notice, that early in the next Session of Parliament he should move for the appointment of a Select Com inittee to take into consideration the whole mili tary expenditure of the cou n try. Lord PAemEasToN had stated that some retitle tions would take placein the course of the year, which were now about to be carried into effect. Ii had, however, b, en misunderstood, if he had be a :opposed 10 say tiny !eduction of the Military College Establishment was intended. That Eista birdituent l e did not think was greater than the fair rftinaiols of the service recrired. I-Ic did riot considet' those orli'eer, to be useless which were to be so by the Honourable Gentleman. His g,nel-al assertion on the subject of abuses said to exi:;t, he would meet with,a gener4l denial, and would challenge the Honourable Member to prioie his as.,ertion well founded, which he would distinctly state be did not think lie would be able to do. He thought 'it would have been more fair and cantiid it the flon. Gentleman to state what these abuses were, titan to throw out so general an assertion. • Colonel DavtEs hoped, after what the Noble Lord bad now said, that next year, when he moved for the appointment of a C7,mmittee, the motion would not he opposed by him (Lord Palmerston). Mr. Hume made some observations, which seemed to prove that the sums expended on the 111ilitary Colleges were much greater than its ob.. jects necessarily required. "There were in that Establishment 37 professors for- 300 students, while the School of Woolwich, which, with its branch at, Ponktnoul It, contained the same num ber otsettdeots, did riot cost the nation more than 9,0001. The Holt: Member then remarked upon a sum of 248,7481. charged for the clothing and other expellees of the British Army in the East Indies, and also' upon a sum of 245,9421., dis bursed in the Artny - Estintates, and not accounted for by the East India Company. He could not nunderstand why the expences of the Civil Esta blishments in the West Indies had beenlincluded in the Army .Accounts; Ile then took, an oppor tuni.y ',to press those points relating to the Colo nies,-which he had entered into upon former oc casions : he thought that all charges, civil and relatiog to one Colony, should be classed noder one head. He objected to the grant of 35001. to Sir Ralph Woodford,„ for the purchase of certain premises in the Isla' :idol Trinidad, and likewise to the grant of 40 or 50,0001. for the building of a church, on tlie grounds, that es the revenue .of thlit Island was greater than its ex pences, there °tight to be neeneceSsity for any charges of the nature described. ile.then adverted to the increase of cxpeoce with regard to cloth ing, between this year and the last. He wished to know why so large a sum as 39,961 t, was charged in the Army Extraordivaries, when a specific charge had been made _for theltrtiele al ready "Mr. Hu , rossoll observed, ,that the I-lon. Gen tieman who spoke last, had not taken a correct view of the purposes to which the money now ralletl for was to be 'appropriated.---The items &Oder the head of Army .Ettramdinaries were icit charges not previously estimated, _and. came dulyvithin the minute investigation of-the audi tors. of .Arroy Accounts. The Right Honourable (gentleman then vindicated himself from the int- 'rotation of ever having wade any undue appro. prlation of the moucy that came wibin his de partment and said, that it it could he * proved that he had done so, he would be ready to bear all the lawny that would attach to such a dere liction of owy. With respect to the item for had only "0, - observe, Ong. ,conse qoenee of a rise in several articles, and that of leather particularly, an advance of 15 per cent. was granted 'to the Col-pods-of -Cavairy.over and above the ordinary allowances. Lord PALMERSTON said a few words in expla naoon,observing thAt there were only-thirty Pro'- lessors at the Mili , ary College instead of thirty six, as stated"!4ll the [lon. Member. Mr. Hume remarked, his 'quer.olon on the sub ject of the charge for troops in India remained 'the CHANCELLOR of the E%CIiFQUER said, the expcnce was to be bOrn4by the East Jradia Corti- patty, between whom :Intl the Goverument there was a rn•unintz account. Humu - Aiad before called the attention of th e Chancellor of the Exchequer to this'snbject. Ile thought sotne provision ought to have been 'Mille in the present year for the debt . due to the East 3 oha Company. 11Ir. Lose defended the Estimates before the House, which he contended had been improved of lire years. The - Hon. Gentleman, he thought, had reason_triehe satisfied with the explanations given. In the first instance he objected to the general statement, and he was then told, if he t, , ished for further explanation, he had only to snore tor it, and have,it. More he thought could not be expected. He repeated what his Right Hon. Friend had stated, that the warrant which he had mentioned, and which he could not approve more than he (Mr. Long) did, had, all the time he had known the Treasury, been constantly before them, and had been sent out to the Governors of the different Colonies since the last peace, with an intimation that its provisions must be strictly con formed to. Mr. C. Utr - rcniNcoN noticed the charge for the Commissiniw and Auditing Establishment at Lis bon, and wished to know if it had answered the purpose for Ivhich it was formed The CHANCELLOR of ti:e IfAcHEQuett said, the expence of that establishment was certainly coo• siderable, but it had liven found (MC of great public utility. The motion was then agreed to. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUEIt then moved the•followirig grants : Forthe Army Extraortinaries for Ireland To make up the sum of 2,000,0001. to be applied in concert with the King of the Netherlands under the Treaty of 1814,. to. meet the charge of erecting Forttr,SeS in the Low Countries Mr. 1.113 . 1 R unde►stoo'l this charge was to be met by the French Government. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, no part of tie exnence had, or i••ould fat! on tl►is country, though for a time it had to advance the triOne Mr. fluTcutssoti 'Wished to know if the money thus to be expended would not otherwise have been pnid,into . the English Tre/istny. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, the engagements under which this advance was to be made were entered into before the battle of Water loo. :plc glorious .antl fortunate events of lels had enableo„us to .throw on the Government of France that expence which would otherwise have fallen on this country. The motion vas then carried. The following grants were then moved, and, after some con'ver.s:atinn, agreed to • • . . ... To enable his Majesty to pay a like sum to the Gayer- nors of Queen Anne's Bounty, for the augmenta tion of the Stipends of the Poor Clergy £lOO,OOO Ti enable his INlajesty to pay A like sum, in addition to the maintenance provh ed for the Poor Clergy in Scotland - 10,000 _ To defray. the interest for three years on the sum of 30,000! To ni;:kc good the deficiency in the Fee Fund, April stll, ISi5 For sundry improvements from Bango Ferry Church Gri lie, in North Wales To improvements to be done to Holyhead Harbour in the yeartßi9 Foi repairs to the Harbour of Lyme Atter a kw words from Sir J. YOEKEI which cotdd not be heard, Mr. WILLIAMS objected to the vote, and con. tended that the work in question was a complete job. The Harbour of Lyme could never have watex enough for large ships, while the Road of Portland, which was safe for any ship and any wind, was in the immediate neighbourhood. An unreasonable piejudice was entertained against the Portland Roadstead. Sir J. YoaKE said, there was no man who had ever sailed op or down Channel that could not hear testimony to the excellence of Portland Roads. But the Lyme Harbour was au excellent, and - would be a most useful shelter to All the coasting trade. Mr. IVILLIAms explained. 'the Resolution was agreed to,. The following sums were then voted For the Board of Agriculture 1.1,000 For the Forts on the West Coast of Africa . :18,000 Superannuation Allols•ance to Retired Consols IRISH ESTIMATES. Mr. C. GRANT rose to move the Irish Estimates, which he said were the usual subjects of Parlia mentary grants. Alluding to the votes which had hitherto been passed for charities in the Iri,b Metropolis, he admitted that they were not in the main beneficial. They were, however, very an cient institutions, and that which now remained to be done was to take care that the funds were properly administered. One description of chA titles which made part of these votes were the Protestant Chtirter Schools. lASI year 38,0001. had been voted for these schools, but this year the sum to he voted was only 24,0001. This redne - - Hon had been effected by some alterations in the management, and also-in consequence of the stitution having been able to make available h sum of 40001. from the Irish Bank. The manage ment of these schools had of late been much im proved, which was due in a great degree to the efforts of the Clergy. An application , had been made front this Institution for the establishment of two schools, for preparing persons to - act as school-masters and school-mistresses. This, he thought, would be found very beneficial. On the whole, the Institution itself was of the very best kind, and its object being that of educating_ the children of the poor in the principles of the Esta blished Church, was must deserving the encou ragement of Parliamept. He concluded, by mov ing that 24,0001.- be granted for the support of the Irish Protestant Charteted Schools. Sir H. PAnt , ret..t. observed, on the great amount Odle. sums voted for the Irish Charitable institu tions of various kinds. No less than 200,0001. litid been voted for them'within the last year. He hoped sonic reduction would be made by a more economical system of management. Sir G. HILL insisted on the great benefit de rived from the Irish Protestant Charter Schools. Mr. HuME objected entirely to theprinciple on which iheSe schools were founded. He thought the new mock of education which had been found so beneficial in England and Scotland should be extended to these schools. Sir G. I-Ittt, explained. Colonel BARRY supported the system pursued in there schools. .. „.... Mr. ARP,RCROMBY insisted on the propriety of introducing the improvements in educatio❑ to these schools. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER defended the system of the Chartered Schools. Lord JoccLYN sail, the schools in question had been productive of the most extcn , ive b e nefit. Mr. C. GRANT begged to be understood as not in any degree pledging himself as to what he might propose next year with respect to the schools. The,usual sums were voted for the services of the Charitable Institutions of Ireland. On these several motions, questions were put and answers given ; but, as they produced no debate, we think it unnecessary to cuter into a dealt of a desultory . conversation. The Speakers were- 7 — Mr. C. Grant, Mr. Gordon, Mr. Hume, Sir George Hill, Mr. C. Wynne, Sir H. Parnell, Mr. Nlsxw.ll Kirrv, Lord Carliampton, the Chancel fai the Exchequer, Mr. Bankes, and Mr. Hut- Oinson. _ . On the Vote fora Grant of 9000/. to defray the exp..-nce of publishing Proclamations, &c. iu the I Newspapers, some opposition wa - s ex cited It was objected to, •as An improper appli cation of the Public Money, for the purpose of influencing the Press. Mr. 13ANKE5 supported the vote, as proper and judicious. If Proclamations and Government Communications were deemed necessary, those who became the channels of such information oek or t o b e r e munerated for their expense and trouLle. It was a legitimated tootle of acting, and When the PresS became instremental for such laudable purposes, it ought to receive proper en couragement. The sum in the aggregate might appear considerable ; but he had no doubt that those in the direction of public affairs would see it applied according to the intentions of the grant. Mr. Hume protested with great vehemence against such an. expenditure far the cause of in fluencing the Irish Press. A Government must he in an extreme case, indeed, when it was thought necessary to descend to such wretched expedients. lie protested against undue influence in London as well as in Duhlin ; and the Hon. MeMber was pleased to make some bold insinuations, as if he could prove that such unwarrantable influence had b , .en used with the London Press.. Tl) . e ericonrage-. meat of such a Press ought , to be' totally dis countenanced. Look at its effect not only on the first characters of the country, but on the pro ceedings even of that very House. He therefore was an enemy to every vote which had such a tendency as that noel before them. If, however, money were necessary to defray the expellee of publishing the Proclamations, etc. why should Government act with partiality.? Why give a pre ference to one Newspaper more than to another ? Mr. Beetees felt no difficulty In vindicatin g ; Government egainet the unprovoked aspersions of the lion. Member. Government had a right to show a preference to particular Newspapers. The selection was founded in policy and in common sense• It was more natural that they should encou rage their friends than their foes. If Gover'nment acted otherwise, he.would maintain that they were the maddest men that ever directed the affairs of the uatiou. He differed in opinion from the Hon. Member regarding the ch'aracier of the Public Press. He (Mr. Bankes), by no means thought it so corrupt as the Hon. Gentleman had insinu ated. What reasons he (Mr. Hume) might have f or u sing such language as descriptive of the Public P r ess, he (Mr. Bankes) could not tell ; but he was convinced that - its conduct in general presented very different teateres. Mr. Hume rose up in warmth to maintain his sentiments. He insisted that Government ought to have no connexion whatever with any News paper but the London Gazette, which was their own official and authoritative Paper, and in which they might publish as much as they pleased. Mr.. HUTCHINSON objected to the vote Of 90001. for the purpose mentioned, and he hoped that the Hon. Secretary for Ireland (Mr. Grant) would not let them have the repetition of it next year. The Hon. Member denied that the Paper in which the Proclamations appeared was ab jectly subservient to Government. The publish ing of the Proclamations in a Newspaper was no proof of its loyalty or disloyalty. Although he totally differed from the lion. Gentleman (Mr. • Hume) as to the true character of the London Press, yet he could not agree with the other Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Bankes) as to the doctrine of legitimacy when applied to the Newspaper Press. It was the first time he ever heard of such a doe .trine. He denied that the Irish Press was cor •rupt or unfair ; and he thought that the insinua tions advanced against the British Press were not founded on sentiments of candour or libera lity. Mr. F. PALMER defended both the Irish and English Press from all unwarrantable aspersions. Whatever some Gentlemen might insinuate, he was convinced that the Public Press of both coun tries, instead of being hostile to the Government as constitutionally formed; were •friendly and-zea. lonsly alive to the true interests of the State. In political opinions there mighebe considerable dif ferences, but all those differences ceased when the Government or Constitution was endangered. The vote was then passed. Ou the vote for a Grant of 22,000!. for tile Services of the Barrack Department, Mr. NaWMAN thought it unfair that such enormous suns should be voted at so late an hour, and in so unexpected a manner. Why not give notice of the several Resolutions previously, that Members might be prepared to diacuss'theii merits ? It was taking the House by surprise, and at. an unseasonable period. - Alter they bad al ready voted three millions of taxes, they were suddenly and unexpectedly called upon to vote enormous sums for the public expenditore of Ireland. Mr. BANKEs agreed with the last Hon. g e v s r s . ber. The Resolutions ought to have been UP: lig before they weve presented for the sanction 01 , 1 4 House. This would be acting fairly, a nd 8 1 1. 1 -, Gentlemen time to prepare themselves for the mission. He did not wish at this hour CO r of vokea debate ; but he thought that the natur e the Resolutions ought to. have - been previ ou Ve announced to the House. Farther inquiry nli i g ee be deemed necessary ; but how could it take ro e when they were effectually precruded from it• e i t hoped that next year the House would have cause for such complain' . o b i • Mr. W. SMITU could not conceive what poi i n , objections there cdruld be for printing the Reg ou t t i Why not print them before they 05 4 their Report ? There was no reason for Wak the the Report that night, and (looking et clock) unless they made it in one minute, ( " 1 4 could not make it that night. He believed tha t would not perform his duty if he did not for the printing of it, At ail events, it oug ht 4 be printed before - Monday. It would be a r prece Mr. B dent for Ministers. %At ANKes observed, that the RCport tr A l r y , be reccived that night, printed before MOI ) " * ' and farther considered also on Monday. i b s t - The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER Said' the printing would ocz,rsion a delay. It however, be previously reported ; and as thse' re , inflates formed from these Resolutions we re 11°,4 ly different in construction ..r some t' might order the Estimates to be primed, i'r tc of the Resolutions. Mr. WYNNE was for the printing. ole The Resolutions were all agreed to, the I.': e l resumed, and the Report ordered .to be reset` on Monday. its The Estimates were ordered to be printeL l if order that the Members might be furnished l o p Copies previously to the further conbideratio n Monday. vs ri°ll4 ['he Tax Bills, in conlequence of the Resolutions of the Committee, were scpd" l ia t brought in and read a first time, and ordered a n o h s T ecd reading on Monday. e Churches' Building Arnfmdment Bill ‘c . ,J through a Committee. The Report was reset v 0 and ordered to be taly,:r: i::to further consider oti on Tuesday r:!•;!, : WO` The. Common Recovery Bill was commi t ' third reading on Monday. hg leg Mr. HOLFORD brought in. a Bill for the regulation of the General Pwiteutiary at Milb °ll o 4 —Read a first time, and Oidcred tor a se c " . ' reading on Monday. be ts Mr. ARBUTRNOT brought in,a Bill for The d ter regulation of the African Company.--ite i ' t os first time, and ordered ter a second reading Tuesday next. veirs Mr. 1.1 rtfciVia fOF iiieitirn of the apP„.' n g tion the gr wt of public money to the Clergy in Scotland, for the last three years.' tierce. Tbeother Orders oldie Day were ti:en disin t o of, and the House adjourned at LIALF-PAi'r o'CLoex.. • St, HYDROPHOBIA.-On Wednesday' se'rmig“•%iii: respectable Mreting, held at the Cutier' o o 4 Sheffield, convened by requisition to the Gl s i~ Cutler, at which he presided,. it was on s o it rnously resolved' immediately to adopt the nj pg• effectual means of destroying all dogs fou P t iel; large anti not properly muzzled after due o° , had been given, by employing armed m3O (°l ,Oll • ambulate the streets and lanes of the town d" night while existing circumstances rendered it cessary, as so many confirmed cases of bV i i ) . phobia had lately occurred, to the terror ol d, inhabitants of the town and its neighbourbo° FATAL EFFECTS OF SMALL I'ox INocuLATO"'ist Two tine children died of the small po'"o North Bradley, last week. It appears 0 81 0 0' family bad but recently removed to a m0i,54 which had been just quitted by persons that olio been inoculated by a Weaver in that parish L„(1' bail been permitted with impunity to gate this loathsome disease), when the five dren immediately took the infection ; o c i a ,:re above, tell sacrifices to the *Malady, and " 1 " o tt , maiaing three are still in a very doubtful sit ftlllll.llMiallnal. e BIRTH. On the 23d inst., at her mother's house, Niar — s ao. Bognor, the Lady of William Graut, Esq., It. N. MARRIED. , 11 S s n On Thursday last, at Chelsea Church, Philip Danie, ' tb, ll. a r of Restronguet Wear Cottage, Cornwall, to Fraric".fteP daughter and co-heir , --ss of the late Rev. F. C. Neg us ' . of Bronze and Suffolk. Oakley, ----- co lii On the 24th inst., at Cheltenham, DlED Lieut.-Genera c o . Reynolds, of the Hon. East India Company's Servic' , ',l3x, Bernbay Establishment. mail , • 14 On the 22d inst., at her house in Park-street, ,-;- this ° roness Mordaunt, of Turvey, aged 82 ; by her tioa t '' • Peerage descends to his Grace the Duke of Gordon. ___,,,,/i _ ......--, - Gr eg LONDON: Printed by.). B. CARSTAIRS, oftl`;°•,.., O'.ol Ormond-street, Queen-synare; and published "', 1 4 5 !'..,, SCRIPPS, of No. 7, South .Holton-street, at 'l'l9oo' Otlie,., No. 112, Strand ; where Adreitisemen ti t Letters, &c, (post-paid) must be zllressett, t ,- COURSE OF EXCHANGE, Fata r y, JuNg 25 ' c . " Amsterdam Ditto, at Sight .... ll 8 , 11§"A Rotterdam ll 1 2 , 'OO 4 Antwerp ll 151 is• i Co. m Hab (ugh 3s_ 0 a s k Co Altona UP Paris, 3 Day's fight . 24 5 0 ,LI 10 Ditto ' 24 SO u . s• . Bourdcaux, ditto Franlitorton the Main Madrid 36 1 effec .0 Cadiz .. - - 36 .114 . ,P Bilboa 33 Id Seville -- ... 36 Gibraltar Barcelona Leghorn • •• Genoa... 46 -Venice, Ital. Liv 26 Malta... ..s'o -Naples 404 . Oft Palermo Lisbon . Oporto Rio Janeiro , 6l Dublin.... ..•.. 141.....C0rk.....141 per Cent. Agio of the Bank on Holland.... 2 per Cent. • , • BULLION. ar , . Portugal Gold, in Coin L.O 0 (),` New Dollars .. : 0 5. Oh Silver, in Bars ..- - 0 5 7:::000'},