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very small proportion,. to the reverittes of a trout , tn, , so oe,rhoriliened as this. • . The V>iri of Ltvuttyoot, seemed to think the proposition one ivortity Of a serious consideration ; tind it was a point not overlooked by those con teeted with the department of the Treasioy. lie, however, had never seen a plan fa the purpose hat was not. liable to considerable ohjettitms. poiot of principle it was good. Those %rho re inothet•countries were, evidently free from • paying tisvir,due proportion tifliie taxeS, kOld they ••Nreie unavoidably exempt front several to -resident persdos, We're 'BO" the ,qiiestion , whet her the, inedoveniences which woold arise from all attempt to carry such a prOpOtitioll into elfget would not•be greater than these ; which it woold, purpose to tctnedy ; and it a Plan could he devised, free trout the oloections he alluded to, b r ., va i rea dy E eriou,iy to anewl to it. The Bail of LAUD'EttOALE thought thy declara tion of the Noble:Lord iv thyhead of the ',lren sut y One of an alataniog . nature Land he was stir piisval to hear it ellegell that Ilit . pa! who' went fahrOal COMllbalttl very little to the revenue of the county. Did , those who went abroad leave nothing behind that was not liable to uunieroos nod expensive taxes But above all, in a mercantile y like this, that interest would tout hear : • with patience' of a proposition that struck more deeply at the roots of all litCreaatile transaetioos than a • ny uuue ever yet sui4gestect. Even in the worst of times such a,.thing was never heard of : the restrictions'and dratvbaeks which it most Ile- cessarily place upon the communications of this with every country in'Europe tvould be iticalcit• lably injnrious. lie deeply regretted even the mention of bIICIF proposition. , Lord HoLtdtxn could not help observingiin ad dition, that titiell persons were tolly• ui liable to, tht L'and Tax as any who remained id the coon,, try', nod to a V4l 4:ty .of other taxes , a4m. lie was RIC 0 IliSiiC(110 heikr 3116 arksertions Made le,pecting ut”entees. llrc Earl of LiVaitPool.olPterveil, that if Ite 3titted such persons paid no taxes, lie ',toil certainty made a.. mistake ; hint, certoitoly, with regtird to ' the great mass of-taxes., they tlid not pay their due proportion. lAULKELEY spoke in exploitation, and th an k e d the Noble ; E t iri who itati'spoken lust for the! answer he htid . giveti, respecting the proposi. tioh, which he •(1...,0id .11.) hod 'suggested. E ar l F ORTE xcue presented u Petition from the County of j)evQii, complaining• of the depressed state of Agriculture therein, and 'Ow pFtr~iu~ fur" tt system of econplisy, • WORKS. - The rod of DAIiNLEY proposed his rinficed mo tion on this c ttjct t ; the ohjtet of wli!Cli f or , alt • account of t ttc Expettees of the erection , main. .tanting, and kecping in repair, Ceitain Militeary • Works; whici , ,,he uoutertdcd, 'were' until actually 61:lets, itarticniatly some of Those in tht cosint y ' of Kent, as.itte Lilies at Chatlnlin,l the AlartellO 'Towers, Lineal near Doer, and Elie' Mil?tiiry Ca nal near the eofist; oar all ivlricli inithetise sum's Were eXpended, natal scam 'would be rt;- ititired more or :perhaps for - I:ceiling ill repair. Ile accordingly etnieltt',led with • ittoving - - (tress, for the proltictiOti at these variotis - Ae feoutits. • 'the' Earl of Mut.onAvr. deprecated such a mo lion, the agreeing to' it _ould' ,answer one pntpir,ge cif practical 'hatted incal ' cul'able useless labour, anti no sn.all expettee.' de Scribed the official and clerical diffiettitios whißit ‘voold attend such au expoiition, whieh he re- . p6tvd could lead to no practical . result. • . 'The Early of DARNE:tY unit 111OLGRAiin spoke repeittoiiy itt expboatrOti and atter' a few tru n uls friont the. Fetrl of LiVrAvorit., jeCtion% of his ' Nohie Fricod, the E, a rl of D A ' h N'. LkY onSenteil to withdraw hi, mOtion. s1:1111•;NI)E1) ESTINI,Vit:•.;: • " `The Mattpti of LANSnowlve, in prefacing his ntotion 'O4 this subject, addressed• the 1.-lOnse"at soute length. Ile recapitillaied arid enfoicid se veral of l.ris, (orater arguments' on the'sithket, sPeetin4 not only the binerkial effeetti,. hiethe neceisity . of a thorough systein of economy in every in,weit of the Public INpindifttre, part ictt 141y in the military branches of • it. lle noticed theie' reductions' . had been made since the snb;ject .Was before their Lordship lit the , • Artny'Eltiptates, and'irgued 'that cnttsitirrattic fat t her Braving -s might still be Made. 11610 . 0 re paV til.4.idarty dwelt on' the offices Of 11Inster M ailers General, its this country 'and in Ireland, which -m! fie" nearly' or totally . sinecure's, and which May well be suppressed, and their duties tranSferrred . to the "QuartorSlaitees or' AdjittantS u -Greral De , , pitrtmen rts. tont tuese a great pecaniMy saving nind,; 'and front adopting a t)ifferent nrode for sttpplying the clothing to'tbe regiments of the line--for instante, by contract; instead of leaving it with the - Colonels, an immense saying wottld aecrue to the public. The Noble Marquis colt chided by MoVing an Address to the Prince Itt.!' requesting that copies of the artie'rided Aruiy I , :,stkirAtei Ma...! be laid before the Hotrse.' E 4 ri 'made nhiiervaitions on "What bad 'fallen frotn the N...nble Lead; nor only en the details'of Whitt which he cur rketed in sOnte itritances; but also as to the piin elple-opon which the reductioniproceedell, which lain argued was very different front that assnined by the Noble Margtti s. The Nkiroirk .WELLESLEY spoke at some len gt h on the occasion. Ghring his Noble Friend, who spoke hist, full credit for hii views in consider ng this important .sult.jeet,.he' thought that the shoold bc, laid before the "lonic ; and (a/her, that their Lordships.should, in tlirtp, insist upon the re-consideration of that . part of the subj f.the subject. A. review o general ac-' count of the Army should precede the red;tctiOn of the. Staff I)epartment, instead of foll o win g it, the Only cosn•tie that could now be ptirsoil. But, tinder die eirz:ionstatices, lie did not wish to press the question. tie, however seriously rejoiced in , the reattetions that had been made. I"Aetwont..sstid, having given his assent t ;,e, motion, be did not expect, the fOpies Loch Cid,been ra,-iiltrodiseed. It wag not either . r o eh y, or fair, co tnlke the alteration in the Ltitithates the siibject of attack. Vb'ileihci on ns in.t.glit re:illy be of noportaite,', die con sidered it thi duty of a Minister to coueenc. niinor point!. The wait) littestion was, the amotmtpf the army ; %tith respect to the staff, lind points, the reductioo mts the mere business of. tlicConmitttee, antfsnch rednctioas might be made . , evety - Si•ssirr.i. .O , A the ininther of tltt,.ttrfily„tilie I:4*le Lords disrcgarded the main poila, nathetY,'. iii :time country iii the tirst year of peace. They. were tint. in the state of is cumin try reduced to a peace establishment, but . that of JJA,Uict,nsotitinr.- .to tt.,paCe est raft s t reductions arising from the disbandbilt -troops ennui not rake place before June. The staff bad liven preserveu tmt to remain, 1)14 to bring ,the torCe '(iown peticeestablisqment. The Noble Lora lied asked, whether Minis ers expected an otherfevolaf ion cool!, arise ? The:whole : bearing of his argoment had' heel' not to impeach the pittiontv . of two of the greatest Statesnititi thk t‘t*r existed, hot to prove when the country in Opioion Of lir.l3;trke and NI.. Vitt, in the ;:rvin est se Ui ii y, when we were'cx posed tothegeitt •:cs: lie bad taken the, year I P.)2 as the ground comprison between the -establiihnients then eitabliAmeots now, lie concluded by say:ng, he had no objectiim to thegnotion for the No . nion eniiid be disposed to comply with Irr,.>posit ions of Lconottly consistent with the' int - tiesfs tit the Country, but he would - nos con seot to ineWireA' which, in his opinion, would :sacrifice ult . :: interests:of the country. Tile Earl of ROSSLYN b tld,, nn looking tit the Estimate!4, he found that the troops - in. Ftatice, Parliatocut had considered as.a body to be provided for' by France, and independent of the E , *timittes, would leave a chargeon . this country Of 260,0001.' _ - I.,ord:l,4lrearoot , said, the Army. in France was connected 41ith the'Ettimatcsihut it had always 'been considered that the expcnce of that - hotly '‘‘ . oal(l not fall on the • country. The Noble catcuktion upon the subject was not;,co.r. rect. . . , GRENVI'LLE• denied that tnere as any, pos,ible'eltioger which could justify his Majesty's I!liiiiseerS in making till-, a ,great' military nation in titre 01 peoice ; .and even if danger did exist, 'he contended that our sakty was more likely - to be . secio ed by recurring to that system of maritime: rettgth upon which we bad - heretofore restedwitii C011filielICI! for protection, than by t •it: maintenance of a twee ‘0)1(,11 %%at ncillier Coll:4cilial 00 our or our Constitiritm. We hod Seth around ,us every ',allow trliich . had relied upon its Military ength ,for stipport, full.hencrith the overwhelm . tog power - of'. - the: conqUeror, while Great liinain iliont•ovimic sytetit as diamarically the re withstood all attack ' s, and at, length, tri unipbed-'over - every •is:•osilant. With respect , to • tiic ariimiat of the expeudit ore wiiitir the proptis ed standing- 'many would require, the country weic at 'first told" duet the army if France %volt:it form no part of that expenditure;' but now it turned out • I hat a great - putt of this bur then was Oki; noitt:ly to fall 111)011 this:country ; and this tno!'' tit a period 'when . the revenue of the cotintr.y ac pally 'shot of i:S.'expences sixteeii AVliativcr evil might reemlt•trom- a ditlelent'sys.. put, he submitted that our first and mo4impor- Titti shOuld be to Save Atitl CofistitutiOn.— tiicri procet ded Out, 7 even 4 . 0 standiug army- wiu: necessary, iliartliat Which ritopused; with the exctpuoir of Ire-, Isna, 10 which, unl CIS a dilkrent course was pur su'ed', not 25,0G0, h,tt 2.50,040 stets ‘volilti he tie eeb.shry, might be reduced at' least ont.-thircl. - • I he queb.tion Olen put anti carried. Fur,Nr a LA 3N:ritt atIVIONS. Alarquis of LAIStpIii.VAVE now rose, to more. for a're.turn 'of all•strts received by his Alalesty's Government, - front Fiance, With their Olei, anti the application Eitel ea.. Lord nor:LAND COilltl scarcely credit, that his. M•tjesti‘'N GoVertiment had 'tect.ived any sums of looney , froii, ;I foreign cotintry lot the varitent of troop,, witiotut courainnic3ting the c0,:0r0.,,,0yce to 1 4 .trd LieittroOLiiiid, that thenintiey heen received Amounted to 6'00,00n1. 'and %vas part tif'the contrilititio•os undertaken to he , pii;.(l'by the . threeriinionit' previous' to the llt-nuitive 'Fred y, in of the tl'MT4'alpstel.ning from r.,i.ting 'slims vvhiCh their success would have mit iwited. ' (ittiNVII,LE protested, in strong terms, ti aiu~t (11, , iodOet of his Maielty's Ministers, in tint, ri'eciviog It sino trout ii itireig-ti power out etittimitincAtiog it to PHlliament, mail it %YRS elicited, as , it were by accident. Lord fIOLLANti r..petited; tliatlie thought the coinse piirsti - i4d by his AlaieSty's fk . iiiiisteri, in this relpetft,L was' criatioul'io th'e - last degree, and f tin,diribe Noble Marl ongirt . to come down the next ' light with a 11111 of Indemnity in his hand, t in.Ortier: to save liittileif from the consequences of hislniscomlitct. • . Lord LivwapouLexplained,:and gait!, that pay. •nient , of the contribiltions think perfectly tio'derittood. Prot was paid tti the army, and the rest remained in the trnilitary chest: 'flie papers, srlitin iirodueed, would' explain the whole trallS. Iterioll. Lord LAUDIKIITiAt.II'O3OIreiikOII hit( StlrprigC, that the 'first inns ter of lite Country could conic down' anti iiiiike'snett' a cohtessititl its this, namely, 'that he'llati received inoney:of a foreign power tor the payment of liritiSh troops, witlitint first tatting twstise Of Packkrite , it upon the stilikeet; Nothior, coulit'6,e more inottle to every principle of the COiistitritiOn Ottaviexpressetl', In common with hiS hie . 'Priends; the indignation which he felt at this discovery firtheimioititiable rind dangerous con . - tlit'et or his Majesty's' Mitii3terS. - The acedulittr'werh then ordei ed to he produced. .BANK LOAN , BILL. .C.,)rt the thotioti far (lie second reafilug of -this Lord CaauStvtt.t.,z- spoke at some-length , upon the unfair sacrifice which had been made of the public interests -to the Butyl Col F.oglintl: .14e fully acceded in all that bud been paid by his Hon. Friend (Mr. Grenieil)r which was . unanswerable. Atter an explunation .frotit Lord TJtvant , uoL, and some . 01)1,0:voiotts trom the Marti - 111i of.liAsts- . powoqn and LcK(l LAOntINDALN./.tile Bill *as rend a' second time,- twd ordered to'be committed on , Monday... The Diller Orders 01 the Day were d i e t , AhrpOseil. of, and t h e H ou se adjourned at 'l'welvev'elock. HOUSE OV COMMONS. An Aceonat was presented of all Copper imported into,l Creat Britain, and of all Copper exported. Ordered to fiend ' di, tahle. • . 1 . ,.., : ~, ,i .„:., i ,-;',.., ,- ,0 , NI r. M ,\ll.ll I ~‘ 1 1 ykisented . A Petit lon ' from tettfi iii,tub a.' hitsiits of the Town of Sanittii - ch4pinyint;or the reiZaf of .the Leather Tax.. 411.rdered to,tin. - titt-ori, tobli.. . 'A ei;oilar roltioitAtna Ilt- ,, Pipitlqs 9f 1-iY9 0 ( 11 ‘9 l Pe," lerileii by i corral Gasceigue, which was also ordered to lii , :on 1 Le tattle. - Lord LIAILKY presented a similar retitiostirouLtheTimt., new of Worcester, which was likewise ordered to lie on the tattle, . ~ 3 . • The Butter Duty, llill went. through a Committee t,f Ow whole. House. Reprt on Monday. ~. . .. „ . CI r I''''iF DrIT 111t,f f .' ... The Horse rescilsW. itself intd a Committee on the Clieesi . Bill. J)iiuv . • • .... . TiW I I mt. Mr. F. ROBlNSON'Proposett it Resolutiots; 'lay ing on a. deity Of Ins. a ',hulked weight on cheese. iniported in Bi'ilisli ship, tool t:is. on thiit Iniported in foreiAn ships. sir M . . W• 11114LV.Y.thotight this rate too high, and ruoved sts an amendment that the 'rate should, he tis. per hundred weieciit on clicesc imported- in British ships, and Ws. um that ill forei,:n sPips.. , . .. . , , Mr i . 110111.'SON thought the rate . which he had first pro. posed tvi'; hest . , and therefor, iqettod to the amendinent, as the rates Int:otionetl• in it Wel': too low for the protection of the lliitisls prodneti. tiene'ral tiAst:Ol.l4NE supported the amendment. Mr. CA I.CR.AIrr thought the rate of duty in the Amend ment Na:3 too,lote. • He considered the present as only an ex periment3il measure 'and not intended to he,permanent. Sit C. BURRELL repeated the :arguthents which he had used yesterday against the rate of duty proposed in the Amendment. • - . iii . . CALVEIIT said, although the question - before the 'Lima: was it;l Civcsr, he would take the opportunity of st.ty , it 4( tt few words On the st.Oect of 7/I:er—(Lattghter.) rte CHAIRMAN (Mr. itrogilenj stiegested, that the Hon. lerliber would hereafter have a better oppOrtunity for ..tying any thing on the t,ubjea which lie litetil toiled, iiittiout going out of the iittest ion now before the 'Tense. ' Mr. M.-11tItYATT said a few winds in sup Port of the ori ginal Restitution. , . Mr.,It.GOitUON said a few words generally in - favour of tht Bill,' . , ... , Sir JOHN NEWPORT thought the best policy was, with out fat' nig into the !nisi ale of Ai - nuking that Yoreigti Powers lVere to be conciliated or irritate() according to the rate of fluty iMposcd, to . figit at such a rate as our own interests re- . Ile oh,tectett tit the Amendment. 'Ctrs, Amendment Was then re:oieted, nod the originalteea:.. rut. carried. Th.' iteport of the Committee" was ordered to be received on ISlntoloY. Lord ALTI4ORPE postponed his motion rehttive to the teuthct. thelgth inqtatit. The litghways !-Ateseyors' Bill lens committed, the' Report btotilltl up; ism"- ordered to be taken into furttar eouaidera tivitthis Ifuy there 'iveciis. 111 r. Lt ~i3lNt. TON presented tertain ACconnis relative too rite which were Ordered to lie ttti.l Lov 1.1 IN OINENT pi:',ll7olts'.. 'Att. ItENIINV.TIpresC.ni(.:I 7- a'Petii ' nni tran the Debt.)ri confined in the Gaol fur the County af Sqep . i.retitiesting that w Q1 0(1 t i ,,t, (lcvrivv persuris inftheir !ittntOan Mf flit• nip ans of n:4iiining t liberty upanitieegailahl , prin ciple of. /be rx,,ssio Orkr , 4l 1V lie. 0 . 11 . 11, 1 , wn,:al , lndeni:lity Hill was Itrought in and )•.imi a first tiule. Ordered to. be rracl a seco , o: Nonay. Mr. ROTE Pftsenteil a Petition trona thq, Coll of Sir= Pem., rg.que,,t,o,4 that better provisions triaibeinakte for the ritutiec (II Ordered to lot on the table.. . . . , .. Rltt>iele.. (:HARLOTTF,,c-F ir4Lt4,.., . . The CHANegta.(titof thel;,xcriatir,ti hron4lit in it Bill Int grain ;rig- .aisnitable estsOlit , hoient to' her - Royal Highncii the Princess Charlotte of tkiitle.s n. l marriage .:vitil the Prinee of sute Ci)hourg. !Irak a first time, and ordered to he reikil 147seound tithe on iidiliiiiy. . ' • REPAIItS OF PUDLIC OFFICES. Mr. BaNrces, alluditn to the iiiiiirovemeats now prOgresm ctrl •tlie ()Mee of tit:: Secretai y of . 6 „ , D. thotiOA they were d e f o rming,nue oUthe most respectutne buito• inks in this part Of the town, and %tidied to know: under what hatkniity this work w:is going On. Mr. H. AontlvoTom said, he, was very much surprived o'ne - titty. tOlin.ti a 3C:lfftilallg muted be- Jore the ()flier, without any notice havini?.beco git7cn. These repairs were gOhig oii Withont the cognizance of the Home Deliartinent., .eware that the 55111509 of the year wa.i most convyn'tettr, caused inquiry to be made of the BoArd.ol.WOrks, why they had been cotionenciAl :IL such a and the answer was, that the w it s•in such a state, th 4 there ,YaS the . 641 of 5c)194,0f,1*, large :stones falling. Sir : C. NJ utet.L thoiight :the Board of Works hail acted ill it very indecent way. He hoped the matter would be further before Om House. • The of the Ett'ilgttin3ll was by UI) means -sure that there -tWght not hare been, some slight sanction in the tirta instance front the Treasilly. But` he had heal us much SIIITEiSC(I as Iris 111)11. %%lien lie satti , the' scafroidiiigg erected. Mr. FIiEFMANTLE thought thic:tvliole proceed ing very extraordinary an,f • The CIIANCULLOR of the EXCIIIMUVII, from.the general ue , Jiracy of the 11,ibird of Works, thouitht the. buildilig 1 . 11145 E lielve heel) •conimenced 'with proper sanctitm Irmo Treasury, although the way in which the work w4B now cx"ecuting"was iiiiuch a; contil he. approve 4. Mr. 11. AlliNa4-44t4 dis•ciaimed any' intension of imputing tdame to-the Board of Works. erti..NsilioitTATio.:: or coNvivr4. Ott'ilie motion Tor the second. reading of the Transpottat ion BliNNKTi.WlMlctl.the period, of two .rears to be t.nhstituted for fire years,-.in- the Bill. With in the last fouryears neat 1y.,3000 person i bad been sent to Botany Bay. - 00111,1 not be sent at a less expense thlo lOW. per inan b .remul their Main• t e nal le e a t least 1;41. per man per annum: This was tieservim; of time considerati'on of the %%hiqi it u is at the . Same time consitieeed, that the 'punishment had lost its efficaey to such a degree, thio there were at this tiine several.per. sous candidates for being sent:to:Warms,' flay. Tj k e 'voi t utoi I eirecisuntit be produced by the number of con iris who.. were .assetnbled in one . place. lie therefore 'hoped "he' period-of tw o , y 4. W t Opiti allppteCl i sp that the sunject mibilt soon again bc.hrought befOre time flouse. Mr. tiont:PtiaNr thoimght if - the lion. Oen tletiman •Womild refer' to the itcport of the Corn.' witch had lit.ell apptiiilied to. inquire into the subjer.t, he would have krona that this• colony w,as,rppm:4stented 'as in a state of progressive im provement. As to the 'floral state at the colony, the lion. Ger:dem - an seethed to he Complet , ,tly con Viet could, be:punished until he .was hEr)telleed by a llenclm of Ystaik;;lstrates. As to the Critties Committed in the colony front J . nne I, to tic Titim Apra, 8314, fitty-sik persons were, trierl;_.tivt.koty-thr ee ‘lre-re convicted, snit . t reel re ' , Pilfered dept ,Dttri n the two Bast teal s thi . whole: number of peiidns . sentenced to'ireirth ,era 9r tw„enty,, and only . six er..etnited. .Fro-o th e Whule tfe'Co arits recently recei ve d, i t appeared that ly HI 0 Ih I' the colony Wet tepidly improving. e wished the House to real the Report preseoed to it on the subject in 1812, as h wo Id convince them that even then the colony was uy on means in a state to justify the Opinion of it entertained by the Hon. Gentleman. 'Mr. MINNETT Mr. LOCKHART thought, that with a view to the prevention of crime, there were,only two a —trona' means.-.—the good education of the children of the poor, and the mode - of treating priionl". Mr. flot.youn was not sat iafied Nith the I'll:sent, state of tue Time Billot last year had ilnue gmol. i * inprOietrient !wad bn 4 ee su, , g esTed ItU iu tie trade of dividing the hulkY, whieli he was very sorry had not been adopted , since it %las very important to haVe the convicts ifivi,ieti more then six or seven classes, as was pow ihd It, Was highly necessary that regukr . counts should be kept of the colt victit The.ditiereuce of value of the cotivieks , in diffyjc Ht places, as to labour, must be owing to some 4.1 e• fret in the arrangements. Ile thought the sub ject important and deserving time attention Of the` House,' Mr. H. ADDINGTON said, the Hon. Gentletwio (Mr. Bennett) seemed to think the system, as to. New, South Wales, radically bad ; he therefore hoped he.would devote his attention to it, and if he could deviic a better plan, he lind no doubt . the House would adopt it. The reason of 111 c late period of the'Session at which he introihiced this Bill, was, that' having endeavoured to c on... sod tlate all the Acts in it, he could not stioiter frame the 11 . 111. As to the arrangement of tie son ships, every attention had been paid to the s ti t i tbie it c: p . or M t o a t t i ty ti o ie f . sti h aete sujg t e i s ie tit e m i. s is( c m 7 t l i t t o il ke b tl et i : adopted uith much success. With respect to tile utimber of divisions in the prison ships, many id: tetations h a d be e n ma d e , a nd the number ( 4 classes bad been much increased, antl.gicat beta' fit had been - found to result from the'citainte!!, the system of the internal arrangement of convicts. There was more difficulty than sod “eotitmen seemed aware of, in keeolug vcrY ac curate accounts :ot the earnings of the eoP` ict6 _but uteasures had been taken' to insure the racy of these accoltiis. LORD CH,PITIERLAIN'3 EXPF,NCEA to - Mr. TIERNsY askedl'dat"etb the , Estimote which had been laid before • li.mse, of the Expellees of the :L ,111 Clontujs inb".4. DeOartmelit. lie cot7laitied of su:a "l be CHANCELLOU of the Excnroxis tb o:nission. was not rmatie . by mist Ake,.bitt 4!!:‘ n g ks d,otibt whether the ex .1 cgs . cf /v . pt. • nt rigutou were to be Mr. TIFItN CY, in that case, thought it %von ° he . I J) , fore necessary to tn,..,sie thattliere. should he. ) 0 ." the House cop'cs of the- correspondence .iietweelf Errol Liverpool and the Lou! Chattiberliii"... ttat the Bon.Ventlettion woniA ; would . In , before the douse such pot' fu7 15 J 1 corr e . esporitienc - tis • contained the;' riOp r atiOn, sited inOtio,l u n told ` , b• 8.:t4 ~ ntie. the infortatttion wws 14.troilibutt, """ be itopii,;ible tor the House 'properly 10 (I ' s i t " s the gobi !.. .ct. tdoell It.;AATI,Rtt 12 “klOltipl.t.tet.l " lion on this subject, certainly the !loose could l 4 decide ; but he ohjectt.d to any partial ein ) ;lll.ii " what Government did in ,the way Of furtibhing the House with information, did out suti3ty Right Hon..Genilenian opposite, it was or ° ') 1 ,` ) ; himf o m to move for such further inration - wished; and then the House woukijudge wiles the Mformation so moved for was necessary. , Mr. TLERNET. —All that he ; meant - was, O a ' themecessary infortuation should' be given bt.ti the House was coiled upon to.diseuss the sol'iceto 14 Lord Csrrt,aarnAiirt,sild he would undert call tzar -no vote .upon 4bc. subject till the ti t had the information, and had time to e satni. oB- ; would - also be given to (nose far any folt,°g information. tt s L u o b r i d e snit!, s t I t i o at he S(ll p n r l o i d f i tl ic l e tl d i e A . r i f x i a ble Mr. TtagNat understood, from what. t he thi , t _ ortua tion . . ARMY lISTIMATES. On Loid PiitttsiitSTotes Motion , House do resolve itself into a Conittililiatieet tl°l Su pi WARD rose to make a few obserrn'YA,t; 1 which bethought would induce' the I:lotto to P au ', before they went into the .Comtuittec lie itu d pared lite reduced Itqiitn4tes on tie table ',lo', • at t hea mount ll c d t i;r es of the siimi 'char ;es i ien t ot lacerit entpl4,) . ed 0-0 14 4 , witsiu 1 7,9 2 , lq,oool. ; anti in -1 - 80:Vi I, 4° ;i,a ..;hilt it now Amounted to }23,0001. 'W 1 41 ,.: 1t :,.116 'loose recognize a charge whieli real Smile *rrvier.", sip tiiues he ainotint ui drat' t t I S 4 ta y tf e3 n r li s g '' h g t ' b t e ? do il li e ble g d k S n i ° ne w e le t ( l i tt e i" f i t !k i lTe t t c l I A11.°1111: 1 1C : : :; but'how could an increase like. the pieseot expenditure be itistifictU Unles !Ministe rs 51)(3. 40 be 'able to give an explanation, o w f hic h 4, 0 14 not 'fore4ce the pro!iability, Elicit-Estimate* be' sent back to be corrected. i" cluirge for the stalf in the Meeiter'rant.'",ni,ids 1".3831.'.n"w that Nlrtlt':.ll and 'the lonian " ' h4tlheen.added to our possessions in that would allow it fair to trilile that stitnt ‘rottici then amount to ,4,1491. Tbe Noftli A tactic - 4, 4.vni 1802, 6, 3 : 3 1,,,1ie 5 now lte,dottbled to 12,6751. ln. thy 1 636 *, - lie'WO willing to take the Cope of Goo , " ~,tt the Mauritius, .and Ceylon, at the same rAl i c i `ligl. as-Oihrnitar ; the charge wont() theP is t rn.!. Thewrerindies; inritictinoain.ica, cost 21 . 14el,that stun be how tiotthieti , i t o , ol ilt rise -to 23,4241. These increased fistimotel, altogether form' a total of •43,4001., 8;0001 - . for 'St.-Helena, Senegal, f ool jo l k i 51,40 W., leaving' a n. amount of 71, 60 ° 1 ' too lif vote propostd by Ministers,. which sco! .+ , o no unaccounted for , . and which scented e!sw,'l'/„..sit neeesißry. The exr elise of the Stair 4) 1 11 1 1 i 1: _ Guards. was, in 1513, .a year in w hicirt try 4')44) flirt;( fletiYCIV engaged in .tear, . 11 t 4 .3 ant! t o rt on Ow redtteeti esta.olislohht ;Amounted t0.16;V2,71., Ile should he si tothe4).ll,„itl'. : „ i. its tipinton t hese- mio , cr- 100 r , .the explanation ol the I. `" Lord PALMITK , TM4 thought foe bo wl . would hoc bec°