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FOR THE SUN. !lONIAN CATHOLICS. LETTER VIII. Mn. EDITOR--I shall now resume the consi deration Of the question how tar the plea of expe diency can be urged in favour of the concession of the Roman Catholic Clsi:ns. We have been told " that things cannot remain " as they are. and that the Penal Late: mist either " be ; e-enacted or sontefurther concesgions be made." But this is certainly It most singular argument, mml it surely can never be seriously ttrgttl, that because the Legislature kin! chosen to make cer tain concessions, ant! thereby placed the Roman Catholics in a more imposing attitude of solici- thAt still further concessious be granied. It tliis principle sere once t, ) wlt:it A irinititroiii 141,11 ftitic;l 3 ()Diible ;ritgti, ;Timid it eveitil. :nsist upon oational re!toration of the p , uttp ant! Iplen,lo,,r of their religion ; they Ulight pPlit !o be allowed the pitytnent of tythes encio.irrly to their OWII Clergy, upon the grounds of its being nn hiluChip And a vtAition of tht it religion to p 1 ), III( 11l to Protre , ant Jurtintb , ; and con ce,.,iott :Net. concession might Gus h tn.4de, r,n it nu Englith Vicar Aposrolic, or an Irish Titular arproached the Woolsack iu ihe I-lowleeaf Peers * I look upon this argument Of argu ment it can be called), of the necessity of further concessions being lualr, as mere intimidation. It may As well be said that all the Claims ought to be granted, because a large nuon'ser of persons have p titiotteil that they should he ; but this surely can be no reason for their concession. Ex priviic,!es are merely indicative of the %weakness and degradation of those who grant them, and can never be attended with any bene ficial effects. The advocates for the Clain:, are too apt, %%lieu urging them upon the ground of expediency, to forget the Protestant interest alto gether. It is held out that if they are not grant ed, certain tuinous consequences will ensue ; httt has it never occurred to those who so zealously urge them, that consequences equally as ruinous may ensue, should the ClAinis be ! ,;1 ;lured the meat Paul - Ls - 1 . 41NT MAJORITY of the Nation he sa tisfied in case they should be conceded, and would it be wise policy to disoblige old friends in order to purchase the favour of new ones by a sur render of laws which have hitherto been consi deted as fundamental parts of our Constitution ? It has been insinuated that if the Claims he not conceded, a virtual separation between this island and the Suter Country will take place; but is this likely ? The Offices front which the Ro: man Catholics are excluded can only be filled by a few of t=ietn, rind by a few only of the wealthiest and most powerful, and no real interest can there fore be felt by the great body of the Roman Ca tholics of Ireland in the decision of the question. Is there not reason to believe, that it is merely kept alive for party purposes, and to serve as a stepping-stone to power for disappointed ambi tion It is a libel upon the people of Ireland to suppose that their allegiance sits so light upon them as has been insinuated, and that so trivial cause as the one imputed to them would fan the embers of party into the flames of Rebellion. I indeed have formed a very different estimate of Irish loyalty. Sincere in its origin—enthusiastic in its progress—and beneficial in its results, it is :Pat to be impeded by a mere struggle for power, which, if granted, would confer DO brlldit upon the Peasant—no blessing upon the Cottage, but would confine its ,Ireland to the lofty Dome and the Baronial Domain. Ireland has evils to encounter—she has wrongs to be redressed--but the concession of the Roman Catholic Claims would neither avert the former, or obviate the latter. It would neither increase or cement the union which now subsists between Protestants and Catholics ; and until cettain principles are renounced, that union will not advaxce in its operation ; " like the Rhone which flows through the Lake of Geneva withont mixing its waters with those of the calm Lake,' it will never co far extend its effects as to pro mote a perfect teciprocity of interest between the two Peatict, The measure of concession has been urged H 9 H means of bringing oil parties into the Temple of Concord ; but are those who urge this :13 is reason quite confident that the titne is come " when the Lion and Lonib may repose in peace together, arid when our Swords may be beat into P!ough•shor(s?" On the contrary, is there not teason to te:ir, ihmt while any disabilities remain, there %yin still lit heart burnings and discontent amongst those who are interested in the removal ? E,xperience cer tainly speaks in favour of this op;nion, and has shorn that a pilr(Lit COlifeSSitlit of Ckifllf fi3S !VA only Ole effect of increasin:.! expectr.titiris ¶eititoot • Pamphlet entitled " Gallolie. rilltoriti; , ation,nnd " Cie only way ita itchieti it rau tIC Virre kwintrit Eilitiva, satisly:iig anal ptaclug the Lcgi,;:t:itt situation tvliere it is more difficult to resist ad ditional claims, than it %vottlil have beet' to have absolutely rejected former ones. A stand must be made somewhere, and where can it be made more properly than at the doors of the Legislature, and of the Council Chamber ? If these he thrown open, the Rubicon ,nay well he said to he passed, and a Constitution, tvhiclt Itellolit;i005 have hitherto only served to remitr more perfect by their convulsions, will be vie tually annihilated ! I may, possibly, be mistaken in my conjectures, but I write the sentiments which I feel, and de 3cribe tire conseqrtences which I anticipate. I know that many of the Roman Catholics worilri as notch dread and deprecate the fulfilment of my ex p ee twi,,us As I emu , do ; anti it will not be owing to them if they prove r,nlities. 11, however, they value times of peace arid prrSollid vatety, they will trot endeavour, by ntternpring to gain ephemeral advantages, to pill in jeopa , dy the harpy times in whnit they now , live. ! that they would throw off the volc of foreign allegiance, and dis card some other dogmas of !heir Church, and join in one universal Chnrr h for the propagation ot the (:ht stian mini for the security of it Christian ! Possibly this time may come ; and stimuld it ever, it will he a period clear t o lin er ry and s o ci,l order. iiirtll, however, it arrives, we must hold to our and not st,trE,..uirexi,ting lust itutions to beiuj trod by dan• gerous experiments 01 menacing C03h1 . 10114. I re peat it, there tare many anioragst the Roman C. :holies as men, rio one can more admire or revere titan myself ; am! whom, as subjects, have ',loved tl,einselves entitled to every confi dence. Port here I roust stop, and lament that Political Power lutist still be wirlilielrl from thirse svho are every way worthy of possessing it, until they can be induced to renounce dogmts which are to telly inconsistent with the [volatile tenor of th e ir lives,. and the still more amiable nature of their dispositions. I shall now lay down my pen, sincerely hoping that I have written nothin , its an iincandiri or un c hristian spirit. Should Ihe supposed to have done so, I shall he extreniely concerned, and should it he proved that I have erred in this re spect, no one will-be more willing to express the roost sincere contrition fur the offence. 1 now leave the Question in the hands of the Legisla ture, having exercised toy birth-right as an Eng. listrionn. and my privilege as a subject, to express my sentiments upon it. lam perteetly aware that it is one, to he argued not upon abstract, brit national policy. As far 19 my humble abilities extend, I have endeavorired to take a combined view of it ; and while I ,visir never to see the time when every subject of the English Empire may not be allowed to worship his Creator to the mariner which his conscience dictates, I cannot avoid expressing an earliest hope that the Legishture will never shake those foundations upon which our present Establishments repose for satety. I trust. I have shewir that the present Claims of the Roman Catholics are inarnuissible, as tilt Constitution wns estnbiished in I 6SS, rind that the time has not yet arrived when it would he either pate or expedient to concede them. will not stay that the time may tat ver attire, but I will say, that it must he brought about by Ott Roman Catholics thentselvei. Ilirrefsire that happy period present itself, 1 trust that Protes tants tri l he found at their posts, and that those who piotess to he WitiGs of 1688, sv ill not so far forget that glorious R. , to be dazzled and led away by the mistaken Literality of ISI 9. I remain, your's, very sincerely, April 25, 1519. BRITANNIC:US. LONDON .I()URNA LS. FROM 'IIIF !vIOTININ(; PAPERS OF Ti; IS I)AY. [Morning Chronicle.] Notwithstanding the forangement made on Thursday lamt, th no public bwiiness shouhi he brought forsvard in the 'louse of C • Hmoos, for th e too next days, to divert the attention ot the Bank Committee from their important investiga tion, in order to accelerate their Report, it was observed that last night all the leading Meoubers of the Committee were in their places in the House, Hoot consrquently it became manifest that the Committee was not sitting. From this it was said, that some new suggestion, or some new obst;sele to the—proceeding had occurred, which %VS% likely to give an entirely new form to their Report. We stare this entirely cm the rumour of the evening; as we have no authentic informa tion of the fact. [Morning Post.] Several more petitions, for and against the Ca tholic Cl a in l S, were presented to the !Lois(' a Commons lii%t night. Among t h e l atter w 4; nue from Liyerlo,il signed by 10,700 nt the most re spectable inhabitants of that town—a v, hich puts to strict:le the few insignitietint persons who signed the petition from that place %%ditch was presented by Sir lax:;cts nu the preeedine night. 'rhat piesented I'.e liaronct from IJonduti ;11d Whi (It rile (11 . 51•6;Ifif111. the , C ei . jeti, in ISi3, presented to both 11oio , es of Pit - li,inieitt Petitions ,Against the CAtho:ie Ciaiiiis, signed I)'' 61,7:15 persons, wloo!,e placvs ot rft : lite writ .I , :l‘);.ite to their ; :.11111 ,se istiow they are (lett vtiiined to petiti ,, n ai,, ! aiit to the sAitie etreet, it !tie rrsul( ( I, : b a : e uu 31)is 8111,111(1 rendur it neressiity. [Tie Times . ] Poi the CA2liz Pp ger of tt , 6111 p.m it mib,.. thal the pid: 4 l:e llit Ilse (+t tic ji, tovogeA too.aidi the rod ttt Al,irch, m10;0.1, 4 11 'l,lngicrs sod i:s nri ; ,:hboolhood litrir !old been a u,rtur ot r. it..l in 11)AbAl %,,, c ,;viog CVCII; ti .V, Lsrarl.e otm;pirdi .4 iL. j 0 T,tm..-In hAd thed be- I %coil the l',"th nod 2i •t M.ir( It 357 1.e::1s; ill Vex the ( I ,:iify amoolit of de a ths t xr,itird nod in :\iivipliDez 112;1 dcoouo..td 31). LsuJ 50. THEAT It. I C 1, It g G isTE l'erl;wpieff Lest TI4tAfRE ROYAL. DrtOHY-I.ANE.—Kilis: Henry the Fourth (f'ifst l'art) Hritf.ptir, Mr. Kean; Lady Percy, Mri.lto liiusun ; Sir Johll Falitatr, Mr. S. Keiuble. Alter which, Vakt o'Cluet;, and a Rain. Ni ht. THE A titE RoyAL ; ConENT-ONnuKr..l.---ErAdue: Principal Cha racters by Mr. Yolitig ant} Miss O'Neill. Alter whith, A Ito!atitl fur au Oliver. ST. PHILIP AND 3Amrs.---tiolidly at !lic Tank, Exchequer, East India and South Sea Iluuscs, this day. I.tt.ur,s. nawfvE.-1 France. TIOE-1 Dub 3 Waterford. Irlf7fl IVATER AT LONDON /MIDGE TO-MORROW. Morning, 2 minutes alter 8. I Evening, 47 nilrititeg atter 9. TILE SUN. SOLEM QUI% I , lc6fig rA1. , 1151 AIT I/KAT ? LON DON, SJTURD.IY, JI.IY I, !Sig.. \i'e received thil moroing ihe Pdris Pktperi cat ‘Vedliesduv list. The fdlowing are extricts " CHAMBER OF PEERS, TUEiOAY, APItIL 27. " The first projt-t respecting the Press was re ferred to a special Crumilittee of live, :tamely, the Count Laplace. the Duke de l'ldisAuce, the Mir qui-55 de .htucourt, the Duke de arogLe, and the Count de Tracy; " di,cussion ttas opened on the proposi tion respecting substituting :soother irunishinent for deportation ; atter heating (ince Speakers the discussion tYil ttd till StiltMl27. " 01.1MIIER OF DEPUTIES. " The discuss►on war resumed on the second projet rel)ecting the Press ; the ar ides were agreed to op to 20 a lter some discusiun. " In Art. 20. declaring that no evidence should be admitted to prove the troth of defama tory allegations against persons actiog under au tholity, or invested with r public character, Al. Lisot proposed to reduce it to this single line, Nf, evidence shall be• admitted to prove the truth of detAtnittory facts.' This amendment was opposed by AI. Royer Collard, and others, and there being a number of names inscribed to speak upon the Article, the discussion WttS adjourned till to-morrow. ‘• PARIS, APRIL 28.—The King yelterd,iy rived buliuess with the Minister for Foreigm 'Af- fairs. " The Cour Royale of Paris has directed the Procureur-t;eneral to prosecute the Editors of the Liberal, liomnie Grit, and Bibliothepie /list°. rape, for libels upon the SAiss ltegintelos lit the service of France, tinder Treaties of Capitulation. A fire broke out yesterday in the stables of the Mitri;ier of the Interior. lly great exertions the flames were prevented from commuttiesting to the hotel. %I bile I,,st number of La Jlirterre, containing a song of M. lieranger, against the itlissionelles, was se . :Lcd yesterday. " from FrAnkfort say., the aff:r;rs of France eppeer particularly 10 occupy the (litre rent Courts ; the exchange of Coiliier3 hod, L)tir fettes is oh !'axis, has lice!) fur some time very brisk. kleesures are said to be in contemplation for securing the liberties of the nations of Europe agninst the spread of licentionsness. .4 it is said, 11141 the Royal 'tinkly of S4Xotiv, which is about to be united to that of Austria, by the marriage Of Prince Fietiriir, of Saxony, with the Archduchess Caroline, will have All interview / Ids summer with the imperial Family at the wa ters of Toplitz, itl Bohemia. FIVE PER CENTS. Tuvsktay - f. 80 c. I)I , :FRRRED STfiCK. Of the 2i'd Nlarcli, 1317, Pi f. .s'l r. 2i:a Sept. 1817, 92.1 March, 1818, SO 1. 55 c. 22(1 Sept. 1218, 7B f. 35 c. 22d March, 1819, '6 i. 55 c.'' It is stated this day in the Alorninz raper which has been erroneously si t to he :hi/li sterial, that " there is pethaps as much outcry made against the Catholics now as on any for mer occasion when their Petitions were brought forward ; but happily it originates from a rely few, and those in general rather obscure per sons."!!!—Nothing can be more fallacious, im politic, or absurd than this statement. Petitions have been presented from the Corporations of Dublin, Winchester, and many other highly re spectoble sources, and are daily pouring in from the Empire at large. The ITNIVERSITIas of °X IDIU) rind CAMBRIDGE have also, in 11;i4 respect, held forth an example to all other Learned Bo dies. Are these" rather obscure per Fons ?" tespect to the 't outcry agniust the Catliolic," tt l i v should it not he I S 10i111 and vt-9 , er..) low a 3 Ott any homi e r occasio.l .?" Ila,c the their Crer(i i 1). not tlivy iteli t4 ion is nualter;llde ; is not thi. doer *toe asscrted Loco tvtak. wi,to niainin floc:line, .41,1 :it9rln that it never cAn he altered. Ulu! Ilse r 1 ttr{'P, be the the s,init• 44111 C W11(NINt1 Vi111:F. to L'( ht. Ap . ,0,41 thoie ‘0,1i4 mre not tt2 mit dill 1! cti thrir ix.ll:t Let:i•Lit;t - e ? ) ()%vt.t., f',l };e. put 1 , (;4e flt r(•iog Oft ‘viwie ot ( r d , ro!itical awl E;(4blii!imcnt Thr i n yteff fro reo :G71;;c:- have :he handiLO id to rnnk Public Journals that support the Government of the C oun try, s i nce it advocates ever,' day the cause tit those, whine rtim. vr b6(• ever they may profess, is ultimately to effect th e total deniolition of this Government. llinisters Win NOW hate a new opportunity to distinguish their insidious clitiniet from their opeft and de° aided friends, and who are their friends in a at confidence that they are actuated by 3 Sincer e cc gard fur the honour and interest of their Coun tr y as. We are happy N) no• ice, that a Petition W(NcliEs-rmt was presentetf la *t fright t 6 11141 .' Ifoue Of COnlinoOl in favour of the Electors' BA!, and we have no doubt that gimilar ones ,011 he presented by all the other principAl places id the kingdo'll. Mr, OwEg, we find, perseveres in his &int4si for the Boroughs of LxsAHK, Scz. and a, th 4 Electors in general appear to consider bin' 3 1 , 14 ' luau really anxious to rnitig.ite the evils of and ameliorate the condition of mankind, in wblc4' opinion we certainly comenr, tiaere seem, to t i° little doubt of his finid succes‘. silt Nb V . ATl:RlVArsTrilun INDrA. The Company's ships I.ehttion and C ttinin-e9O Arrivrd off Portland the 29th tt!t. They let( Helena, in company with the Dike of York, " r f ' the 5 act; e latter separated to a g4le lYlllil or) the tilt. in hit. 48. 35. N. long' 111 49. VV. The Canning lett China ih company widt t" I)ttke tit VolK on the 16th Dec. and arrived at Sc' I I iciena the `2,1 Nlarch. The London lelt China is company wills ii)e Per.evet mice on the 3'01.1) Dee. It is reported dia.: the latttr separated in the Strait. of Sundt. The Nlarchioness of Ely, and Prii:ce from Bengal, sailed front St. Helena the '2:l rrt rl March ;—on that dav the Prince.. .-I!ne!iA. Lady Melville, arrived at St, livietia, from NO'FICE To BALTIC'. Tit.IDER:• Coniulate General Of Denmark, at 13!1. MAsters of vessels bitutitl to the So.tna• r tt7{' any of the Ports the Willie, are Ito: 11°1 to provide themselves n ith Bills of' Health tr , "" the Disitida Consul residin;; in the Port or for t he. State for which they clear out, as VeSseLl, On °(.+rr arrival at tie Sound ‘sithotit lidviti4 such 1)" i , i oil board, will immediately, wi:h,tut ar , Y r 'g jr to any other similar document they 1 1 ` 1 "," - : he oidered into a q larintine oh , erv.t“'" least tour of five days, which delay 1 1 " Y I "" plea. , t consegurnres f u r ( l ie vu y 3 ge, to inct Cab this notice is respectfully r P. P.IDERSES. LAUNCH of the tit LLissLR, 7 4 rfuit Nionday ri:enin:: last the liittich of tttls tine 1(10k pletCe at Pembroke 1)ock-y41d ; the of the sight (this ship , heiO4 the first t,l byr rrer litunchtd from Pt tobrokr E%tablisliin elo/ ' ll° artracied an immense coccourse of speclA; front )111 halts of the ncliaceht cowilies„ The ' l4 being reindi toddy tine, aiol the asseinWage 1" 1 : ) ; tipxlty t,t; tlse respectahilitv, ,ulded 1 0 1 ' iliterr.t of the scene ; the I mho) iu ibe extreme—he %vent 41 E1 the slip (OW I '', er,th,leiir, amidst lh 8;A:1,01,41'4'r tit Dt a5l tl.l Ge 111(1115,0d pesolis„ \!r• PI NW.., one of the Stiivryors of I e N'estilt upon this o C k•loo. --"S‘ vesseli of War, of ddfeient cat,, , I" : t launched front this yard in abont three Vrisri Itlc ) 4 ' 111(1 nu fotirtecil, ul rerion; HoW iiiiil4ling and ordered 10 be buil , ' is bleb, to carry 8-1 guns, :Jill gr;AnCt. is to he immediately laid do Nil 01100 t that the Belltisle has just lett. '1 11E EATItt. The First Port rf lier ~~ ri he Fourth wa rerre' seated last ttit„:ltt rtl Drury-Lane Theatre, 1 )V ' lc : sire of the and I)tiCtilss of cimuct,s'"' % , ,ho bad their ish to Mr. `1 . F• 1.111-4 ,e K perforta the pit t I:iota to tipplatise wi.ich ht!eildt.(l hint ,chich, lit our opinion, he folly d.Nell7Cll, it be inferred that the Knit}Vi,ito,s were eti:' gratified. locketl, a p , rforinamee, hot attimaied and humorous, Atli! exhib tett i" I`l I'l f a cetious knight a portrait of proilicacy 1 /" I 11 1 ' once held a higher rank, and that s•iil regal"e" sense of I,e ter frelin t ts and of former reputHtio'i: Mr. iC.kAN performed the part of fiotspfir l ' ig usual 81) sit, \vitt' disteLtard to P ru ; pt let y i. stood through th,..i.,whole of his firat scei : with Iris full trout towaids the audience, c ` ; l -1 ; siiipteitily his hack towards the AL,„„, e il a nti Court, CN Cep( licu lie King. Nosy, he testimed the same position ll ' , the .Ilotr,srch euldressed hire. It is difficult t° count for this 4110`51 :11)•Iiiil V. a" Vl° 4 1l :1) lion of decorum. ilia thess at first s*' gaudy for a British \Vat rior, and , his second '1 gaudy like aw n Artliilo Prince WhAt t think of lea 1. 1 ,t1 Costur ne ' 4 ; i ls of iris et it ical taste, %%Ate.' they hear th at is ././oisintr wort., i.i r nizl,t, i in h's tali tifil tilt te/O, milli!, pet tiroot, t 4!itiltionlereil wit h g ') ( l ‘ , l :3 4., say 11 , )11.1,,t: whey M , 0,0 • •y I'ettortirer.,,oo, rig y came io iittritiu"c e the tor this, eel tont:, butwa: inr,,,itt.d b y t he st:Os' 1 , or Idoia , or , o ,t 'Ali. K EAN. b y ,a11 d ' ,44 Ht. v.i" t" 1)C 1. 7:: dig Iffir CiMiC tonvAr d subs' ,l ,,, i s ;.rr!ornianct• „sminnnne, ti . lir 110 0 ' ° CI V Y. Cii ill i 1 ' 1. 4) % f•!‘TAts' PF,11 . 11..tr5.- - y , AliAiN`r tilt! C, 1 11 , 11e thselire" i„ llurl~l ( . 4 (0:11:1) ,, n , num t! , e i;i11.:1)13''" Shuproil C,.f1,. ; I l t . 1 ""1 ;: t I t . ‘ V l ' iltir l 0.1, Nvw ; ft tr , .“l the( it-rgy ut t: t:lcuinbc, 1 016. nes, ZI1(1 t4te Prip Cl) t'rq Aff I)r,, tip 14 111 )1,1 ti ii 4, L