The Sun. — London, England, 1816-02-14 00:00:00

t I AIPERIAL- PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, TOgc6AY, FEB. 13. The Hi use met at ten 'o' 4 eitiLlibis morning, and proegeded in Appeals. 'it Thllisbnp of Herefo . ril took the eaths and his seat. Nit-. Thom!, from the 'fransport Office, presented an ac count of the Dalinters doe by the FreticliPorernmetit to this 'Country for:Priwners of War, for,tlie lust two years.—Or- Airy-v(1 to I;e'liti therable, and afterwardson the motion of the Alarquis , of I.nusdown, to he. printed. .• •.. Nlr.,lllitford, from the Treasury, preiented Annital Ac vounts aesperting Nort hrro Light-houis, Herring Fishery, ike.—Ordered to lir an the Tuhl.e. Lord Viscount SIDNIOI ported„ the rimer o his "R. opt! Hightfeki:the Prince . Iteg'ent, to the AddresSei of this Sth and 9Llr instant, that directions stiould be given accord ingiy, After Haitiog till ltif.paist 6ie o'clock, we believe,, ,in tx- Ileetationuf the Earl of. Liverpool, who, however; did not • • PEACE ESTABLISHMENT. Lord GttEsivs LLE said he bast COON (10.9'n to the lion :0 to give a notice for toisnkdarow (this day), of his intention to move far .the E,,rimates of - •the INlilitary.P.stablishment for the present year 118. p was not ostia), on giviog a notice, to enter 4t to-any details upon the stiliject of the motion; nor .ilitntld he, at all events do ;o nov, in consequence oaf the•absenee of the Noble Earl at . the heat) of his I,llajesty's Councils. no.t, however, 1101 p. adveiting to the rtnnotirs h a d gone lorth upon the sithieet of the Trace Establiglr- IntitittitliMthr3 which must deep impres 00n upon. every member of this.distrywdi,corn irotnit}i-rommtrs tyhich even be - conhitcarcely 'yet believe-;•L•titur in t'his - yeAr ut ricitee there' Wtis• tip 'be . a peace army of 150;000 I l tiett, and that. the sum for the maintenance of the Vrouic - 14,cott.ris117 Pala was to be little short of 30,000,0091.,whi15t . our furrier Peace titablitliment . witSAlir 40,000 :mien, with on emientllthre ttf.betiveeit five add six He should say por n o ire now upon ttlis bohject,,hat inertly move that the Lords be, suns 7. moned fOr to-morrow.- Unfired. . . AVMS . PATI)I3Y FRANCE. The Marquis, of - Lh1451301V14 said, he had in , mu l d v d if tpeNoblp : Barl . at th t e .. heip of the,Trea stir y had been present, • to aslts(ntle_questions r e - • ;iticeting certain ratii4urs'‘vilieli had gOrte forth, • `invokting questions of ,'high Constitutional t rort e rct i, ., i receive in ~t ht would depend npon the answers - ivay'll,.sliollltl shape a xitcitiau. 11 • e alluded to the rumours of What had 'Passed in another plaee, 'according Co Which', the • t 9 Ins to be paid by Prances under the Treat chided with that Power, Were not the property of the Couutry hut of the Sovereign, and that by the; special grace aud'hvoiir Of the CrOW,n they•had licen,re.gr al ited flue the:public service. It became vf the greatest -importance In. tt Constitntional f pOint Of view to ascertain I t c,licther the Treaty had been . t 4) toneluded, that'.the itimS 'given in !. lieu of:territorial cessions, were.aetnally the I tec t . perty of the Croton, and not of the,conntty that the periple were to be indebted to the gr;w3 'tittur favour of the Crown for - a re-grant of them for the public service.- • -4djotirned till to-morrow (this day), • ITOUSE OF COMMONS. sir,. VP:REY Pf rzaEItALD presented a Petition from cer tain Sl . rip Owners ...I Dublin, praying for the erection of e Pier in ,that, City. Ordered to lie on thelable. - 14iireral lliolo4ToN 'gave notice iiiitt, 04 Willa:o'll'4.A', fit; 0114111,1 move for loons additional tii.XiitiMli ocenrdirtg to tlo 4cale iif the-Property Tea, on Eiht - lish'individuthls 'who resi - i:d Abroad; and thoisrvoided paying,the tan** groemi., '.., Mr, 11. .k1)01 NGTON brought ap fdrther Papers respect ing Teiinspurtation Ships, winch were ordert l / 4 1 to lie on the table , The Smith idirk Bridge Bill is , a's read a seerind'UnlV., Mr. It. ( iiiKit'l.s..MTlS'Oltr), from the Treaaury, presented rariou4 P‘tpera rpi:e.ting Light-hoUses'. - Ordered to lie ui Mr. IC' 4 .ITINGTON • presented an Account of the Bank Vote* atallartli Prat-Bills in eirr•utatien; frotri January, 18i1, to the Sartre month,,lBl6. - Laid on tin , 'tab's!. , ' • - ' Mr, 13A1t131r,it pris'nteif A:ecotints tit the appropriation-of 'terrain Kates reeeiyed ,by the C..irpuration of the Trinity House. Lir,' on the table. Ali.; ravis preseilteft a Petitia f,trFanittairr peraonir in e C the. of Devon'sagiiitrat,tlik, ,p,loloin , pi;bturs' Act. ' jte4d, anti ordered to Tie blithe tali e, : f ,. : • .* ' Mr. tiTYLII.BI7II.N . brOuglit up b Copy•of the Convention of rap is, and of certain 'Correspondence .lietween . thin. 1?illre of ' Welliir... , ton and Earl Bathurst., Orilfred to lio.un tire trifle,. Mr. LLISI-11NM'ON brought up varintri'Mara 'relative Co the'lLe'venire arising from the CustolitS and &clic. 'Order-ell : to litvonrtire table. , . . , , Tire.Nayal - Cytirt Martial Ilill Went through a Committ e e, . Tt (-Tort to- morrinv... M r . LO,Cf(1•1.11•TT moved ftir returns of the grosi•amotrat ante riot of in the Intolveut-Dirlitors':(.:ostrt;.s ' 6t•ttral in their schedules np to the Ist 40;firruaryi:0rtlervil. Mr. BRAND pre,vilicti a Petition . friOn cerfoinl , aruners (li the Cuouty of 14reforti, is i vainst the ex4tioic heavy Toiatiou, hitt particularlr A . agitin the • Ptopcity - Tux. : geard,and ort4 red to he on the tattle.. . , • . . The Freehold Estate Tlill M read a sacond time ad W d Wei . ed to iiecuoitoitted eir Thtirsday iltrit..i:• . :; . . . . • PItrOPFItTV TAX—LONOON , PWITEIONS. " The liheritli of London Were - 'introduced, and )veseitted the Petition of 'die Lord 1111) , ( 4 And Aldermen of tie 'City . of LOndon in. Common Connell itsiembled, agaitrat the Property Tax. On the 'notion 'of Sir WM. CUATIS- the Petition ivas ordered to lie on the table'. • - Sir Wat. 'Curry's then presented the:Petition of the L f iirer'y Of London - , Against the: Priipory Tax.; 'Wadi he tated to hmie been:discussed with tent- per arid moderation. Having been read, litinov.i ed'that tire` Petition lie on the table of thetionse. Sir jArclEl Sit Al* took this opportunity of a's'suP• the'fionSe that the language and 'prayer 'of Vetirion, were the` language 'avid prayer of the Livcry, Who objected to the-Property Tait; becaUse the grand istriiggle having been conindted to its end, they •conettived thatit .was the duty of Ministers to redeem the pledge'WhiCh they had given during the.war, for its renioval at did' turn Ile objected to it, because iciehtionsly helieVed that it wag a burden which ilre'people, and particularly the agriculttiral rest, ,coultt tint support.- rile'sboUla thank it far jetii objectionable to raise tt y,iral loan ofjsix mile its lionti, and tp ass i gn interest on the produce of the Sinking• Fund. This give 'full and produce no unfavinitahle effect. The Pecitidu then ordered to -lie on the table. , , PEACE ESTAELISFINIENT. )tCIS. Ur. 151i()GDEN OrOpt up the iteport of'the Colkiiii;.l ye §upply. On the readhig of the 'first liesolution for a grant cif 11,024;1001. to provide for boot a udiug Exchequer Bills. Mr. W. ‘ITYLOTE tool( thii opportunity of oh jectiug.to The whole . proposed scale of eipentli-' rare. lie had supported fh&measures- of tire Hon: ileutleuntu opposite for carrying sta the war luau eifeetive t Assner, because Le-though( that , in CreittelitJaces of the times we•conld only eNiect the sliad..,w of p eace , an arme d truce , a nd that it was preferable:4o voutinite the- contest until it shouldhaveAteen brute lit t o a t ermit A ation, winch would , sernre to the euirut t w' the 'te t t' of peace l .:; BUt' what wait the result; now tharrthe ekertiOns of the conflict were cr . > i s l pronOsal (9 1. ttPeate Establishment, which > l O all pOrITOSCS, te;p4 e'iiiiblishmeot for war•--77 Aye were now tOblc, that Afte extent of, Our con tiireqs retitle - tied the maintenance of 'lto hundred and lofty-trine thousand. tutu nveessarY• Jilt we bad been formoly assured, that, depiiving Fiance of thrise,milittiefStations, we should be able, at pitiee, 'to do witii:a _IeSS et'?osid'er T "We ei r rablishment than ifShe were allowed to 're tain then. Our situation at the Close of the American itiiar, .htid alai bez.n referred to, but it wits very different. Atthat time the ivhole world were indispbSed ag . tittst us : the French miey our., a nd that of Sts tin was powerful and .threatening. . N4w, on the earlitnry, every it try iu Europe Was ournliv the French navy teas itiniiinlated,''the'Freneli artily - disbanded, and yet a Peace listablishinent was priaPoSed more than double that to which we had submitted tther the American war, lie hoped Ministers wonid be ,reitarettto explain the, re4son why, in our present situation with the rest' of Europe, they were Mit able. to reduce the prpposed Estahlislintent iover titan titter any Other Peace. lie then ob served Ott the increase in the various heads of ex pense. t variations iu the Ordnance Depart ment. had been from :360,000/. to two Milliotts,-;:- He was convinced that the increase in the army alone rendured,the call of the property tax on the people neCessary. . , Mt. Bs'adt:ar had approved . of the Property Tat: doting the'COurie.of the war, because its vsol now 'protested apinst its then . necessary ; , Ind be renewal. Ile wl , hcci Other iliCdll3 should he adopted of prOviding fint the service of the year:, thrkt .a.tax whieh took from reft(s which they cotild not get , and front tenants profits Which' tiny eould not make. 1 1 / 4 11%•11orsex,thought that it was . vain for 'Gen. ttemeo in the Iltinse, or for the country, to ex- . pest that they could be ,relieved by any way bat one, the reduction of the praposeil esttiblitl +whit, I - 101id not :know .whether it was to try the ditt pusitiOn of Parliament that hints had been thrown nat about the':Poss'ibility of relieving Alininters from. .their difficUlties by it little limn, ibste i ni of the Ptoperty Ta%, but he declared that stichex. pedients would (Hay tend ,to front' Inc...opposite side )—Let theta wake out that the expenditure whsle is they proposed was' neces sary,.andk!e world be - the'fitac tee vote for it.; hot he was persuaded that it Was not„ and that but for the present establiShinent whicb threatened the ll ()ernes of the conntry, we shimild get free of that odious„a - nd oppr6sit4i . tax. These epithets he bad always thought just, eVen - voting for it, when its existence' was compelled ties of 'the :,..s.tate. But the real question:. for the !louse to put toitscli now, was, whether these neeskit.,iett' any hoilger existed, aye o(no. it wits impossible/41)m Mittisters should make .otit the necessity for kteping an estaiiliShment of 60,000 Men for the tiritisb ittland, find for the whole Eui piip of, \\',il the necessity' of detekt.3: now greater titjtsS:thini at the elOserof the rlrne ricsut then a poweiful county at our doors with to navy 01:, 4 1, it Out -tiliatoE to 0111.4 ; ! not no tic thenrvy and alloy of F overt: atiii intrted, the navy tit ;Spain and Itolland Was g,otN. Was called upon to vote estahlishinent, in time of peace, the.nutiate,uallee of, which for a few years wouild he utterly itleoin patible Witlt thelnaintetiance of 'the libert ies and ,constitu t i on tile eintioty )Iwits a ittitjee.t to alter the charaeter of the nation rtlHOvelY to others a ions, and the nature of, its Constit wroti. By nature we 11 et' . t.! To'' our o,4vy Nev. owed our ,security stud ottr gtatideur. 'stets - might he : debuted by the 'slieW of milittry glory, awl 'wish to make m m , n e corY take its rank amongst the military despots of tie world, but it was not in ; natstre 1 110-we. shotild 'keel) it lot* 'Either theCons'titution or the ,G..)verninent mosh five-'way, and- 'in such a struggle, the contest on the Tait of our, liberties would Hot he long. He hopol 014 the Chaticelarr: of ifi'e tf.xchettner would 'deed, that all hopes of economy would • .he' tt4' long such cStablishineut •. I ‘irridd be.kept, The. only one thing that roidil done, was• ti,, retrench and t:..: establishment, and then relie(coald be. initialled. The Cnisscat.t.ox of The F.,xcntkirfcx thonglst that it,,wo u ld he premature: to enter into detailed exitlitnatitio now. lie was happy to find tluit the Gientletnan was diSitOfied to time( the (peti tion , on- fair principles.. agreed with hint that the, qiiet don. was it , (potion of establish, went. On it Ministers must , stand Or fan, If ,they ,were not able to establish the necessity for tin. proposed establishment, then' their whole plati,oiAnince must be_oVerthrown. 131 it if, On the other hand, as the lino. (144.ittleman had fairly liked, they could makti out the ilecessitflor 811Cil WI establishment . , (lieu peTliture which they Ow : - propoited would stand confirmed, ' IVith respect to the : establishment itself . , Goverment would have tin opport ni ijiy pf entering into details nit the subject, Wilt!) ho ttlisted, they would be mble to stibstkintiate'the 116. Cessity,of e very propositinn. .yiestion was now placed on its fair ground, u ni t lie Shoidd tbereforeOnly sald,:that the liberties of En g l an d b'avitig been supported so !Ong nxidtir ait establi s h. tuent,oflBand2o,ooo men, c ou ld not b e ing.reat di - tiger fec , n one of 25,00. Mr. Tien/al' agreed that but. iittht danker %vas co be avprebended from the' 25,000 men them. Sewell. Ile did not fear they, trotild turn their swortis agaiwA the throats 01 his :‘iajesty's`sUb- Bitt he dreaded the influence which such an army would create; and which tv'ait the more alarming, tis sltould it ,lie te4iited iti its encroach ments there would he a large military force to put tfitt I;iwEitl resiStance„, As 'touch tlB it WHS, in his ,power, therefOre, he would soitenl an a l i a t n from one end of the land to the' other, The H9nsa would disgrace itself, if , on Buchan occa-' Sion, it did not demand a *call of ,its to 'oppose so monsoons a - propositioq,„ 'The Noble Lord Opposite - might simile (Lord Castlereagh), he was right to do it, f or he was conscious Of his strength ; end until the rTibject should be taken up out of doors by the Pe might smile, for ' ion; Of the p eo ple, - he well with in these walls lie had nothing to-Areadr intuit , - sent jwoposal Wits one which ~ ., e ndatigerell;, rj only the phrsei, but the liberties of the country.— Toe Cbancellitt, of the Exchequer said that the tiutli'tion was 'Olive placed- on efdir grotind,.and that explanations would he given to substantiate the propriety of . every article. But what intim mai ion vohld Ministers produce which was not al re itiv t . ..no'r.'n, to all ? In times of waiLkheyntight have exclusive sources of intelligence, 'but in peitee every thing Was Open to th e pa,bkic. And tiiii' - WaS t)OW uperiod of peace -the eiertiOns of the Noble Lord had trauquillized titions, and the Noble 'Lcird wore his blue ribbon, 'only be- Canse he had established the peace of Eurape. Bar let him drop his blue ribbon, or:his Peace Esta blishment, for those two things could not gotoge- I her. nithetto `the exertions of the :country had been encouraged, by the assnrance.th 4 t they were made to gain indemnity for the past and security for the future, Both were' niiw. attained ; but what was the rise of that security ? That ugh itl must become a military country ! The Navy could bear to be reduced to only 5090 men more than in in 17f4 ; but the' Army was swelled from 3.71, - gut) t0'150,000 . I. It was only in older to retail) their 'places that Ministers wished to establish that, nil litary system,. It was out. to degrease their: • sup porters with their' patronage arid he had no doubt it would be easier for them to pay olk ten sail of ,the line than re; intent of hussars. For years had they encouraged a ml. litary spirit through tile country. To be sure there were fewer attractions in a bluff tailor than in y a fine gentleman with mustachios and whishets. What could be more splentilid,totollan the descrip tions of grand reviews, the effect of a new cap,,or a line dress? Nit the people Lad to pa'y meal! that and the &Inger was not only one of inert}, Gut "vine of ban ruPtiy. That word was not too strOng, was surprised that the Chancellor of the L,Celic quer, although' no man Conk, go ssith a mine steady countenance through millions, should Say that the revenue was flourishing, and the distresses l of the country temporary; for What'could be inore alarming than his. speech last night. lly doing withant .a loan, said that Right Hon; Gentleman, the public credit would be invigorated, and a sum of 14 Millions, wonhl be thrown into circulatio n for the bene fi t of. the people ! But virtually,there 'was a loan now exiiting. Time Chancellor of file Exchequer had raised 36 minibus by loan lait year, and of these rentahted in the Bank, which the public could not take off.- He believed lie was not iiseorrcct. It might lob said there Were Only eleven but lie thought it was nearer twelve than eleven. What a pressure would not this produce on the public, & if the Bank bad not consented to- , prcdong the payments . : had the Bank .acted differently, and called Upon, Gentlemen fitr: their last-payments,. the fUnds would be more . materially loiecred than the , ' Were at present, . He theti.entered into a de sct idit km, of :the, regular mode of payments, and esked what good would the throwing of into citeulatiou prOduce, when 12 millions 'were to be taken out of it ? The total of the Peace Establishment was upwards of 29 millions. Of this vote 23 millions were under military heads, —lt was sitid that it sliould not be taken fit a ce.:, puldr fil,tahlkhoo•nt. bur ~ , hot flittarts ;j „ ct i on t a k e place in it ootild'tint be pre 7 'cisely. 'stated. A Noble Lord bad spoken. of eight ii, iiiun but for his part be should take it Est three millions, which would . redact -the \e liOIP to about 20;500,0001. Was not such 'a PeaCe Establishment Most itt . bn;litioc!„ Bat G, ntlemen skid t h e Irish proportion must be deducted out of it. This he called falltiCy t :s'econd. T.ltat'propor'• , t i t . ) i t was estimated 'at 2,900,0001'.' ; but where were those two millions to come from ? Was there any chance that Ireland; iii her situation, after paying leer own debt, would be able to pro‘ide for this proportion I Were we all at once to be . - ve that 'Vaa n! would pay thatl.' He did - riot believe one word, ar one sbillinz of it: Even hi 0)11'6.64 Orennistancea she could not She had hitherto gone on. but by loans, ant we, must expert oin 'receive, but to. give her assistance. 'rids he AiSp'o!it:tl and ltc hived n tiene would shone When Elie would have - it in her power to assist us in her turn.— ~ But such an e p e t . tat . ) . tj was fallacious now.— ll'ith,respeet to thelV a yS and Memo, be. thOu g ht that ia times of peace they should be mentioned before the Supplies. In' war, it,was Idle first to state the actual seams, ant thin to stud!) every nerve CO meet the necessary .exuen.ses. lde wished the House wool,' have fi.r'st considered whatit had got, as-it would • have been an additional argu ment to enforce retrenchment. What . bad the (...hancellor of the Exchequer got for the service of the - year.? First, three of.Stirplus,of unap plied ?grants, That was very good, but once paid, nothing morerensained.flealstithoughttheamount of the surplus ought to have beep greater, and wiSliqd to know what int 4 becOtne of it. it Was for the Noble Lord to say why. we should pay mo ney to Rossi* for,beittging more men into - thefleld than we had hiagained.for. The Chancellorof the Exchequer said that there had been. an , improve ment of one. in : ' the reven o e • ,liking the years , as be.hatttioue,„that imprOvemeUt tiiigltt seem real: Hut if the year were taken from the month of July, 1 , 814, to July-, 1-3-15, it would -he perceived that.there wits a falling. off ,of one mil- The former ye ar hail prnduced 67 tirit }tans, ant) ttac Dist Dray (6 When the: Right Ho. flourishing a state, how came it that be only estimated the s urplus' of. theCunsalidated Fnria • tit •Z,500,000/, which. Abe year 'before he had taken at three millions ? There was; however, for the 'a ey'ice of the year, 2,500,000/. 'front' thatAtinrce. '',ro that were to bt . , ;added three anliiiiihMreofut,tel.;.l(74d6ilnlficye board rand hilt fax, which, by the. Chancellor of the ,Rxcliegiter' millions acid u ; i?el.yur"hipht°,l7fi.‘",eg'i'll%evTelittvi ie b e e o c f " ;;; Y e yea; Th' l ts fhet, all that lie :hail got.peotts he oat. t o 'I here :sitig.tt be other resources of a different kind, but Aracnot. this 'may alarming ? The Wir Taxes bent motet! at stx tt)illic~rls, wool' b ole deaigtied tiers the Wiz T r;s of. h Ci t' fit ' O t tu . i C he a r tit ei' d r" lL lW x. l ; . e up in t e wao.e • itleven and ., a it • I t i l s s e h sl o to f ul r d be efusin c g ontitu public ted innlopenetteye,,b:p'dotntnil:occ,),gni a i i i,t of the impossibility of collecting theta. At sock t 4 o t i s n n t smuggling, g t g h leiYn offered the was ‘a greatest in i u great prevented d ur i n g the w a r, by the- number of vessels at the di s position of Government. l ig -Itepeould ask any Gentleman in the House, it he :{really thought the of 95 per cent. on tea ., et:it su ira n g le e a inet r i e t . - would be paid in time of peace i• Other duties ° 1 that sort could be enforced to their full eNtcot, unless the country should go to an expense itt 01 ; naval establishment , equal to the revenue 01 the tax itself. _Taking all these circuniseinces elr t s h ii e. ie l r v a a ti r o i n . , isx h e e , di i d a tint p ot eriod of think tltat p t e i a i c. e e pr: i t s t4 o I: mount - to more than four millions. 'But . euett should, it rise to six, the whole amount .of WAYs, mill Means would only be eleven mrnion: anti an half, to meet an expeniiiture of eigh"e ll supposing IsVe tier Pta°l:: a The Right Honourable .Vientlenten m oo thetT• ti fere obtain th e rest f rom ot h er quar ters. lie i c " o rt ult h p in o t is t iL o le c° s7i t o t : di ri c i t O t r t e (I),u5 it be k OO l ; that l ,0 00( ? 1 trays and Means, anti yet he had the face to Caine down anti proptise such a Peace He had no right to do that moil he should lea" satisfied every man in the country that the latice'betWeen the expendithre aild receipts equal. Feu - Abet purpose let . him adopt a plop course, and agree to the appointment of a Cnu o v i mittee to inquire hit° the state of the cotooll, d its expendit ure , an d receipt's. Many taxes st° (i in moment a ry jeopardy of momentous ilecr",s in . times of neace,.th oug h, fr om t h e mode iu vil" c " t was going on, h e was lik e ly to p rov ide ktOin st in o li a i diminution thosen belts,caps,untiotlier andeles ir ratc ikfthilitaryacco ut i enient . C ons id er i ng our °e'l--1 ltd kit had till', he would s oun d t h e alarm ; that not a aingl e P e titi o n would be the *House, without containing a passage ‘vol'ithem i M "., i *gai"st the dangers of expensive esiabli' ' , 4 Mews. Minist er s m i g h t cou n t , as they 01 " 11 11 upon a majoi ity ; ,but lie co nfidently heli ev that that majority would receive instructions few; their coustituents,as soon as they wer e iiitorm7 t what WitS goin g on , an d t h at t h ey w ould deft" s , proper to obey the m . At. any rate Ministers Soon give time most explicit informatioo ; they will haye to inform the llonse why i t is t i l l s the military establishment Of the CountrY 1 : 1 been made so muc h to excee d the o tis i '; tl establishment, and ; why Great Britain is t° it loaded with expense throngh entangling hc i „ s ' E. in Continental-politi cs . A s , to t h e P ro perty, 1 . ; he would: declare hi s fi rm o pi n i on , that if w it eople would submit. to bear half of ,it, they "'fi at - lolly entitled to be - saddled with the whole. would say agiin _to Ministers, - you stoat re(11Ir. ' c your establishment s -to a p r Op er p eace estab li * ment, which'wilt - be the only real earnest yoh et; give the . public - of yroir good inteotions. Noh‘"7" could believe; if it was deterniined to nii{intalti, those establishments cm the- indicated' footittg: that there wit - spot same secret object tot . tt° c `:., immense regillations„ If peace hail beeri - aceou ta • plished for Europe, and it bid fair to hold. o , l !b-l s , was inctiinbent to show ou wh a t possibi gmt t . „. ll see Cottlit want 411 xll,tztC►ttat~ uiilit:tr eel shit inent of not leas. than 150,000.0044 - ,; - Lord CASTA.G.ItaAIiH felt it oeceskaey to sonic point of the Right lioti. - bentleMaicsspecoi! though there could be no doubt-that a totrir%, oc • casion would be more proper for him • to^ '14" .illt "; the general arguments itrising . aot of t hiquesti° o for thellouse must fee} that, Wherever thiglit 131 ,whUht be,quitb impossible to come to nn/ decision, at present. He should , therefore cadl - confine 'himself to a few remarks on the nig ht Hon. Gentleman's - speech. He telt astonished ffiit the Right [lon. Gentleman should do such it" justice to, his own talents as to argue agai"' C the conduct and system of the Government °'". ; .partial grounds,. wit hoot tiling lookin fairly: at l otirse a events. NVas any more ahsot that! to assert, that because the' e were no 100: in the market, there could be ito pressure in it - Time largest loan that ever was. made took eLic't last year; and he c:lll,se, there remained ten or. twelve millions of that loan to be paid tip, wss this au orpiment to Authorise the Right Homier' ahle Chattel - Ilan to attack „and I.4eak .down Chit Whole system of taxation of:the country; clu,`; entleavotir to destroy th e pnbli c . confidence ? tine inarteti Were not sustained, it was I to expect to have the influx of capital which o 'l !tight Honourable Gentlemen argued last yea' we could hot - iitice, took the ii'dys Means of the year, lie went through) the filet `ltaxes,, and he envied against their bcittg . l" • diettive; brit the Itiglitilon. tientleinan'targ ll " meats always bore that tincture of.itespotolin c f which had pervaded them ou ulmast;every oc cki : sion for the. l as t lif tec e _or sixteenyears but e was happy to. say that this agile of theitight Hriiti• Gentlentart had mat affected the tone or nerve!, , the country. ,We Inure siirvived the difficelt ° that assailed us, and have i•elieverl the noarable. Gentieetan from_ fris alarms. Bd t tlje cottatry i r is also the .proild satisfactiott to k ° " ; . ,,,_:t that occasional resoarces are always preseu"'" themselves, and th e y rvtll always be re powerfa l re-. • ' 1 lief, to Ipng as the public funds are nplield, ,mat i the public credit ne.iintained. Titerefore,,liew"' [ say, do not let the country htediscurnaged , tim e when nothing reinaies to he .done but t . c h se a c v i e n o e h t t i tt o: n se vi g; o re r a ti t 3 ; a i i l l %;: t e i i t i saes i : ,ll,)t w i , e li t ie tt li i t e s yt i t t r ijii e w !;? c r e t io s t . , tipoo the iti , waiit idea, ttmonded on soch'Blolll • at atiect thel/iglit Honourable Gentleipatestn i il l; : that a System of taxation is intended whic h .911 it produce th e ir r u i n . SO tar tom what the ttily llntiorrraltlt Genacinaif had said agniaßt the Deft=.i 7 perty Tex being' argnment for' its being rented with, hit ohiervations timid direaly agolnst Ia the proposition. What he ha N Lacs said ee i so Togy, i conclusive arguments w hy the Propeta y Tax eh°l l ; not be ireproviaeutly dispensed witn ; uiict the colatty shoelii relieved frotti tiny tiew altogether ; he bad nor f l iav met I t;t: questil". • He (fiord C..) would maintain titer if ti.,eseektaiu to blislime it ts, s o deprevated by the Eight Gendenten and his friends, were Ise ate; ur c ' s s4 .ry, for the country, they could toe he toet - F i e n d oilic.e system than that which his It 4 . .had proposed. plc whole question .ts,whethei ti , 11.CCeSSititi v 4 the State required ii4C5O C"