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I ieg I 31130'44 )igion a[ ed boi l ! surprise 116C' t hat v r ►r e t i l e ( 0 of , :et It Cgs on ()- oro tirne n i ,eo # the tli it tt was ,11' t ba t 6 , s 10 1 )l qA o tes tor) lll I' olo. st fie 1 seefo,o Cfc .)l i.y II)C uudgr efissl ni • • Lad „ dear Monarchy tin ben ocertbrown by the Puritans, and nini-Ita4eZenedp.ont,cea:Fon nearly to by an it was to y and , a!hitrary power ; and tie,gnarcl against such disastrous con : Vences that there -.was au express provt :" made to have a Priitestant Monarch r u :ti the Throne. This provision , theie ththee' l '""g recognited . , by the- Constitution, ther lkople ml ;ht disclaim their allegiance unless "s a Prote s tan t Kin g a nd a lso a Protestant Lit'vernent. The succion' to the throne was b n ewi s' to be Protestant ; and be would ask up 'that principle could there be a Protestant i f it vras . a matter of utter indifference what >lttvi,Frs he had, tt !tether Protestant, Catholic, or t tthy oth er denomination?. He maintained that it Wag 11 °t bY.an‘. means consistent 'with the pro sml) o f the Legislature, that those who were to et asad ViS"B to the . King shOuld'he Of a teliei , m ho t tft L,;(l:st, from , to ( Hear, hear !)—lf a protestant King, under such eirCOITOI) O BCe, should ta nSeietlt ouslv refuse to comply With the advice bf his Ministers, what power, be would' ask, "il , lll "'lapel hi m ? O r w h a t constitutional uhli coul,t be impos e d 'upon hint in such a case ? • th's Lor,iship ar4ned thelse pisints most ably; and • L o n Proce e d e d to support the argimients of, the o d :Chancellor, cud toshow the fallacy of tho,t , e t •,•, L' ' ll.l Grey ; an.) atter,pointing out , the On. t" which t h e Uti'stitntion-Wodtitie exposed j t the atlmislsion Catholica to all places of el',Lvet and einolom e nt, conclndeti by giving b . " u Lti lie,fative to the motion. A: 1 1h - %illness of LAMDOWNg spoke at consi -o;ettfule kugth in favour of the motion, arguing at the ft~fwhich it hid been asiertetr would v• from admittiog our Catholic countrymen the D'ditical privileges which they required, tlnt im,!ginary. In the army they might th ; -the highest rank ; and be contended if they were by the tenets of their religion at)s tile as was said to the establishments of t., dt,r , t•ltte was much more means of to."to mischief. in the ,single military office of ' l'l4 ' 3l ' 4 i - of the Forces, than in all the places of Political and civil pow.er for which they sought rbe n t 4 le eligible. As to the supremacy of the Pe. the was no instalCe to be tonne. of those 4.77 3 being produced by that article of their arty of the oilier countries of Europe in it was so much more likelylo be ilauger th"" hi this. As to the arguMent against the tonc ti, e deriv e d fr o m the Coronation Oath, *it'd 11, "triples of the Revolution, he maintained , l„ s ‘ t lt %itai directly against those principles to til to 1118 l the Crown was prevented from admitting s "Tyke any body of its subjects whom it ti)i,glit think worthy of trust. s . 1 ' 1 . 4 11 of WesTstonatawn did not think it st, c d - ,`' 311 1 to make any great professions of his adherence to the principles of toleration, in ir e : tise he had beet) insttumental to many mew stfficiently testified his Opinions 'on st `bject. !Int it was becau s e he thought the e li 4 d ee a"a of the empire would be ti,„i 4n gted, 'by acceding. to the claitus of the Ca ll d e . ,! ,- t -11 40.--13. e .ve.a,s..resolved to give this motion At z „ - ," l eci ue;,tative. 'Otte objection to the motion itt yattueness. If it were agreed - to, the Pro ''.ll:'„4lll3 would he alarmed by the idea, that every . 11 0 1 . 'as to be . conceded ; on the other 1,; (1 ' the Calitilics woold'soppose,' either that • br at l 'evy measure of exctusitin Was.intended, or sorn,thtng less than their 'whole demands Nt oi e l ' 1 " be conceded. In short, both parties '` (l 'be discontented and displeAsed. or alarmed' e ti j i 4re eilig• to this motion. The danger of RC- - pi n .l iln l i gt o the claims of the 'Catholics was, in his ‘vi h so great, that they could not be granted, l 'ot overturning the main ptinciples of the There was not any torel.gn Pro to °li t State which had trot thought it necessary A ti ." 4 rd aettinst Popery, by passing laws as se- , •c.,:', Or generally mach more severe, than't!lose I ' ai hed of in theCoristittition of this country. tbe: „, -:: t e nets of the Catholic religion were such, that were °w h o ll y i nc o m patible with the tolera t;.°E‘ existence of the' Protestant religton.— . tes, l". "e th is, he referred to a letter, writ -1): the present rope, io answer to a bypro -1411",vde B t e while Ruler of France, oonapar, , iti l :' l. l "4 " l4 ig and lice toleration to all den°- , f i s ltlt iOns Of religion, in which hi, Holiness r - . 1 1 1 7 ; 1 his assent to it, as inconsistent with the Ca t °..c f `' it h• This was sufficient proof of the na l b u e re t h e Catholic religion. An argument ha d et t terY unjustifiably drawn froth the petitions u -e nted in favour of th e Catholics, as showing t t l f L D l ' lli e opinion of the great body 'of the people tiet7ogland was in favour of their claims. il ti .s e pr op that this was the fact ; aril he would i ';it.from the conduct of those very No ble a ; i n t- . ,Ito adduced it. For instance, just before 130j;, ; ` r ht election, it was well known that the en ne ‘ e le . a t questions were agitated were those ino in iv ed to be roost agreeable to the popular icon , -1111 °o• Now, it so happened that this tocs in Which had been agitated almost every year ti e this century, had last year, when a' general thettioo W as Bp pma i.hi ng , be e n wholly omitted— .. a p Noble Lords opposite, instead of keeping e 'ye th e Poblic opinion, by carrying on Phe dis * t j: 6sio n, thotoila it most prudent to be silent On (Lat occasion—they were as mute us mice— thaatukhter)—and why ? because they %yell knew • 10 4 ; 1 1 ," Popular op i n i on With respect to it was di Y different trout their own, and the y herefo re c h oose to r i s k t h e i r p o p u larity : t il l i tt t il es all t ° g io itt n ati ng it. One great argument for this was, that it w ou ld put an end to all " ensi cws. If he cou hl t hi n k -it really would o t o it, this effect, be Would go a great way to agree trl2t, N 13nt it w as a d m i tte d , even b y sevend of Obi c L ords opposite, that these con cessions n9t effect a fi na l sett l ement of a ll di ssen • if t d -11!• Those Nobl e L or d s sa id, h owever , that uh tpe conce ss i ons were granted all other matters occasioned dissension would. be easily settled, NV1 . 117 then ill this case he must say, that fi tst """hi rather see these other matters settled 11. e --(ll e 4 r, hear, and laughter.)—What were st as ° , l l ' i i : t i "Hs of Mr. Pitt on the - subject - 1 No malt th e Zealously anxious for carryirrg any mea- , In this great Statesman, but he, pop , v'h ets (L "ghter)—h e did not see so far as some our Prophecy so much ; but be never . . thosight of g7anting any thin g th'e :Catholics without sulticiept security. ' , . , . ~ • The Earl of CARNARVOiI condenlned the eon- , duet of Government on this ftl) . jcct.: They had , all at once admitted the CatholicS to all the offices : of the army—they had pm the sword cuto their` hinds, and now denied them adthission to'civil offices. Ao to the King's Supremacy, he did not' understand in• what, sense the recognition of it was demanded from the. Catholics. They were willing to acknowledge the Protestant Church as the Established Religion of the Empire, and the , King as the Head of the Protestant , What more could he required Was the King to be not only the Head of the Established Church, but of all Sectaries The argument was absurd. The Duke of WELLINGTON said, he considered that the whole of this qtiestion turned . on the ek• pediency of removing the disabilities from the Irish Roman Catholics, and what 'concessions could be safely made. As a.means of inquiry, a Committee 'wts propOsed. The whole question turned upon the degree of security which could he given to the . Protgs,karn 'Religion. as - by law . established in letJand. To consider, this it was necessary to 'coUsider ho g s , the Refbeination liad been established in Ireland. - It 'waS" not ne cessary for bim to recall. to 'their :Lordships' remembrance O l t the onrefottned Religion bad beet eitablisbed in lyeland by the SWoed. This 'was fresh in the recollection bf the'•people of Ireland. Keeping in view that the Irish Roman ,Catholic Church, under all oppressions, continued in. the same state- 7 , -the Pope has iog the same influence over the Clergy—the clergy the same power over the people this state of things, he would ask, whether it was coosidered that Roman. Catholics could be safely admitted to hold seat's'in ParliaMent ?--(Hear, hear, - hear !)..—Up on this he put the'questio'n—the influence Which . this religion had over the people, and the desire with which they must he animated to recover the possenions and property of ' , Welt they bad I:i.en stripped' by the Reformation. It was, however, said, that securities were offered on the part of the Roman Catholics. The Pope, it seemed, had, in the appointment of Bishops, relinqnished all to the Crown, except the'rnerely 'conferring a spiritual blessing. But how had this concession been received by the people of Ireland 1 It had excited the utmost discontent, and was regarded as an abandonment of the essential principles of their religion. Considering, then, that the whole question turned upon the degree of security which could be given, and looking at the va rious securities which had at several times been proposed, Ice had never yet seen any thing that came up to his notion of .that which ought to he reeired. As to what had been said of the domestic nomination of Bishops, he did not see. hOw the laws of the country - Could operate upon it so as to make it an adequate security. Then as to...the oath of altegiance which the Bishop" was to take, of what avail could it he that the law required this oath from a Bishop, who 'was appointed God knows bow, or by whom.? When all those circumstances were considered—the state of the Irish Catholic Church—the way in whiCh the Reformation .had been effected—ihe i 'rivalry and enmity between the Catholics and the Est a - bfisked Choi ch , trod the inadeqmicy Of all seen •ritiei• which bad been proposed, the're was enough to decide. the question. ‘ The first and grealest duty o f the Legislature was . to secure the eirablisitments as settled at the'Reitolution.. Earl DARNLEY did not consider the question in the same light ips : the,Nohle Duke, who appeared to have taken it in ain view. Such. security as had ijeen contemplated he did not consider necessary; With security, or without se curity, he Was . ready to go into a conmittee, be cause he thought attention to the Clainis of the Ca holics would be the only means of securing heir 'attachment it, the Constitution.—(bond cries of Question, quest ion ! followed the con eli sion of the Noble Earl's speech.) Li;;(1 de DUNSTANVILLE said a few words in expkilioion. After which, the Qaestion being loudly called )e, the House divided— CONTENTS. NON-CONT,ENTS. Present Proxies - st; Proxies lut; Majority againt. the Motion 4 After which the Honse adjourned, at Half-pas ' One o'ClOck. HOUSE OF COMMONS: Mr. JOHNSON♦ from: the Office of the Chief Secretary, brought up an Account of the Custodes Rotulorum of the dif ferent Comities in Ireland.—Ordered to he laid otr the table: Clitherue's Divorce Bill was read a third time, and passed. On the motion of Mr. C. HARVEY, the Poor Regulation Bill was rettd a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on the eflth inst. A Petition was present ed.hy Sir W. LEMON, from St. ClO nient's, Cornwall, against the Poor Settlements Bill. DESUETUDE IN SCOTLAND BILL. On the motion of Mr. BOSWELL,. the Muse resolved it• WI into a Committee on the.Seotch AFts in Desuetude Bill and the Report was ordered to betaken into consideration to morrow. tiling in it whieb rendered it necessary that the pavement . should be constantly broken Open. , Mr. P. MOORp7, explained; after which strangers were or dered to withdraw, and a.diviiion then took placer For the,Amendnient For the Original Motion 3l . . Majority again , t the Bill —lo3 ARTILLF,Ri r CORPS, &c. On 06 re-admission of Strangeri to the. Gallery., General FERGUSSON was found addressing himself to the tiectetary at War (Lord Palmerston), stating the great hardships which time of the'Aildlerv . Corps in the WeSt Indies endured, by not being oftener remored from-their stations, the gallant Officer recommended them to 1)e relieved every seven years . at least. No man ought to serve longer from hothe, espe= ciahly in the WeSt Indies.—Lord PALMERSTON, felon What could be collected, 'assented to the tenth of the gallant ,Officer's observAtiotis. But as there was no motion, the con versation dropped. . STATE OE THE NATION. _ . . Sir JOHN SEER'IGHi', Widi much deference to . the. Right Hon. Gentlehian (Mr. Tierney), !roped that , he would allow hint to recommend th e post ponement of the very important Motion which he had announced for to-morrOW-, till after the dis cossion,on the,Report of the Secret Committee on the affalislof the Bank. ' Mr. TIBRNEY, with much respeet rcir the Hon. Meniher, 'declared that 'it was ithpoStible for him to consent to his roptisitiOn. 'The motion which she had to Submit to the'House, could not affect ihe'discitssioti which the Elbe. Member mention ed, so deeply 'as to cause 'any alteration in the 'plan. It t'vas tlierdor'e'onitiii: or no impOrtance to the Right Hon, Gent)eman (Mr. Peel) on the Whether the motion on the State of the Nation should, precede or follow that on the Botk. Ht (Mr. Tierney) never had it in eon temPlation to anticipate any diSetission on the at fairs of the. Bank through the Medium of. his in tended ,motion on 'he State of the Nation. What ever might' be his wishes to accOminbdate Gentle , men, he trin4 beg leave to - s'ay,' that he could not forego his, resolution of bringing feorward the iinestion respecting the . .State of the Nation to -marrow. if he cemented to any longer delay,- he must drop it altogether. After Some obiertratiotts from Mr. H. SUMNER, Lord ALTRORP, Mr. WY,KN, &c. the conversa tion ceased, it being cleat ly understood that Mr. 'Tierney's motion ,will come on to-morrow (this day). POISONOUS DRUGS BELL. - The Bill for preventing the sale of Poisonous Drugs was read a first time, and ordered a second time mi Nl6nday next. GAS LIGHT COMPANY BILL. - I Mr. I'. NIOORE moved the third reading of the London Gas 14ht•Bill. • fir It. FERGUSSONT said a -feW words for the protection of the Old Companies., and moved, that it be read a third time on this day six months. Mr. COLCLOPGLI supported the Bill, though he thought the refuse of the gasometers was deleterious, and by running .into the riven' might injure the, fish and fisheries. Oppo sition would, however, secure a better supply at a cheaper rate. Mr. P. MOORE said, that the anxiety of the public for this Bill wit's such, that 24 hours after'it •hadheen de termined to be tkvought,in 120,0001. were subsrribed. It was only o ppose., by the Oid Companies to secure a Monopoly one of the Old C o mpanies had nowa.rent-roll of 100,0001. per, annum; hut their officers were so deficient in science, that. they sometimes let water •out instead of Gas,- and shops that wanted light were inatolfa ed. Sir J. Yt )14K.F. supported the anic;ndment i . • The- rival Water and , Gas CopipaMes were the deit,lllo ion . .of the pavemenf, and rendered a'new pair of WheelS necessaiy fOr genileinen's earl iages every year. . Mr. H. SUMNER was in favour of the Bill. The advan taget. of light, as a idatter of Voliee;•efiiapensated for, all the .inc.fuveuiences. Clauses of proty.etion nu&lit be introduced • -•-!• • on the third ii•arliniz. Aldermlif.WOOP recomatended , that . the laying. of the pipes s!mnl4l Ifa under the direction of the Commistioner of Sewers, if . .; which the:pwblie, would Co..."plr4. l ected• • Mr. 11ENNZ, 1' hoped that gas would aotthe hid on at least in the ileighLouthuud of Cifu:svenur-syuare, as there Was sonic- BANK COMMITTEE REPORT. Lord FOLKESTONK wished to know from the Right Hon. Member (Mt. Peel) the [ - moire of his intended motion -on Friday. His Lordship suggesttd, that the Resolutions intended might he submitted to the House on or heyore'Friday ; or- itert - d 161)g - rioted ; apd, by affording time for the consideration of 'the Resblutions, the debate Might be postponed to some subsequent day. Gen- tlemen would thus he enabled' to make up their minds and come down prepared on the. subject. They would at once be . m4de dequainted with the specific: Resolutions, and better enabled to dis charge their ditty. - Mr. PEPL, with much politeness, said, that be had no wish to press or liurq the disenssion of the intended The subject was of the very first importance, and : therefore every Gelitletnan ought to have a reasonable time 'to de liberate on the probable result. To' aeefontnndate Getalenten, he ,(Mr..Peel) hat, no objection to poitpone the thbate7till Monday. In the mean `time be would ••Ileavour .to , .ptes'ent a copy of the Resolutions, perhapS to.-morrow or next day ; at all events, on or before Frit!_,y. As soon as pre sented, an circler livoUld — bt giv . en for their imme diate lining ; and, in the course of a few hours, the Members might be furniShed vi . r . ith copies, in order that they might come to some conclusion of the contents, previous to. their attendance- on -Monday. • . . • Mr. CALLAGHAN depreeated any further delay, as dangerous to thelotetests of the country,, , 7 Lard CASTLEREAGH assured the House, that the delay timid(' not exceed Monday ; and that in the mean,,time the Resolutions should be, printed, and distributed among . the Members. Mr. CALCRAFT requested the Right Hon. Gen'... *man (Mr.. Peel) to fix the discussion for _?'son- (lay, 89 the country, till the decision of the house, would be very much agitated. - - -' - Mr. Peg!, , repeated what he haul already ad, vanced, that the delay of the discussion should not go beytinti - Monday next: ':---. ' - This 'conversation here ceased. ^ . CAPTAIN . J. M. HANCHETT, R. N. Mr. IiF,NN INT called .the attention of the House to the petition of Captain Johp Martin Hanchett, of the Royal Navy, staling the numerous hard ships which he endured by . the oppreSsion and tylaany of those in power. It was petition' of a very' extraordinary length, which the Hon. Member said .he would recommend to be read by the Clerk, as soon as the House consented to his presenting it. The Hon. MeMber, before he brought forward this petition, had questioned the pet itioner very closely on the allegations which he adfanced. He had eaotioned him of the great dif.- ficohy of bringing forward any charges against any Servants of the Crown, unless he were 4vell found ed in his grounds of complaint : and, should be have the least scruple regarding the truth of the charges, that he ought to abandon such a pursuit, as totally unavailable: -Tbe petitioner, notivith standiug these cautions, most earnestly enjoined, assured hint (Mr. Bennet), in the most solemn manner, of the truth of the'allegations. If, how ever, the petition contained any thing deflating from the troth, the blame must lie at the door of the petitioner, not at his (Mr. Bennet's). The petitioner stated, that he was Captain in the Royal Navy ; that he had beenlappointed Comp troller of the Water Guard, or -Revenue Boats and Vessels, for the prevention of smuggling; and that, for the sake al electioneering purpoSeS, lie had been discharged through the influence ot Mr. LuShington, of the Treasury., who bad sacrificed him {the petitioner) to gratify sprite of his consti !news in Canterbury. These were a few among the numerous charges. After a variety of le mat ks; the Him. Member moved for leave to bring up the petition. , The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that he regretted much, that a person ;Vito had justly acquired - the repu'ation ot a very meritorious 0: ficer when in the Navy, should haye so far dee rogated from that character as to have reduced himself: to such mean expedieuts as he had adopt 'ed. In the situatinn which he had heft! as Comp troller of the_Water Guard, be had,- besides per ., quiiitcs fur official duties, a regular salary of 15001. a year; After he . had enjoyed' this Sitti rion about two years,, he had the .(oily to el,Aut the superannuation settletkeni: Brit this was not the worst. He hail regularly negociated the F ale of his place to leis deputy or nest in succession, who was to have given a very large sum, provided •he got leave to resign in his favour. When this information reached the . Treasury, he -(fhe Chancellor of the Exche quer) thought him no longer worthy of remain 'jog an. Officer Of the Crown ; and t bet efoi - e he was discharged for having been guilty of corrupt practices, 'This -was a short statement of the facts, and might Prove the spiktit -which hail 'in stigated the complaints of the. petitioner. For his part, he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) took' upon hiofleis full share of the responsibility and it pressed to a more , strict inquiry, be would cheerfully abide by the cousequencts. Mr. BeitlTrt•wns - ol' opinion, that the ekplana-. lion HOW made by the Right Hon. Gentleman, was a gond reaSon:why, the Petition oughrto be., prcsented. The very aelindwledgment of • the of-. ticer'S dismission was a'sntlicient.ground. for his preSsing his iikition.' And although 'the Right Gentleninn • - ha(l - delivered himself with 'au air of coodbor. it should not prevent him from the discharge or his duty. The gallant Officer,...notr, the subject of the petition, aanAted by the, nice feeling's of a GentiCtitan, naturally spurned at any thing which affeeted his reputation and he (Mt. 13.) -assured ;the 'House, that the_solemnity of utterance, and the 'gravity of deportment, of the Right lion:Gentleman, would not preventßita from adoptitig the -line of honourable truth, . Mr. Luitut*OTok believed that the-chief 'diffi culty which he had to, - encounter in the present charge against him Vvas'en eAcuse for the great lenity which he had shewn to the Petitioner after the discovery- of his corrupt practices., After the informationwhich had reached the-Treasury, cor roborated by'a variety-of affidavits, he took shame to himself in not having dismissed the Petitioner sooner from the service. The place had been re •gularly bargained for and sold by the Petitioner; but rhe.whole transaction, according to, the best testimony, was ao bein confidence '' onder,the rose !" The Petitioner had proposed to retire' upon two-thirds of, his salary, independently -of what he knew he expected from the sale of his office. When he applied for his superannuation settlement, he (Mr. Lushington) told .him, that as he bad,beeti but. two. years, pnlyin. s office, , • be had no claim upon Goveroment, The Law Offi cers of the Crown ‘yere, applied to for'their opi nions as to the,.propriety or impropriciy of a pro secution for his violation of,the, caw. , iftjerring to Mr. Perceval's Aet,„they found that a ptosecution ,would not -.014, because the law expressly stated, that he whomcgociateil forhimself might escape ; but that he who should negficiate for the sale, of place under Govqnineut for aoother, wourd,be come liable,to, the pains and penaltiesof this Act. The4lon. Member also stated., that he had pond it necessary to watch the,petitioner for a twelve month,. and that during that time corrupt prac tices had been clearly established against The Hon, Member: did not 'pretend to say that he had not as high a regard for his constituents as any Member of Parliament could . have; Ont.he bad never., exercised that regard or par_ti'ality wrongfully. The petitioner bad brought forward the names of persons who had never seen Canfer cnuseouently, Could have little knowledge of what passed between him and his constituents ; and he referred to the Hon.'Member himself '(Mr. Bennet) whether cr not it would be promoting the cause of humanity; to support such a petition.; Sir FRANCIS I.3unnEzr was convinced, that' all the ayguments Isom the Treasury Bench served to support the Petition.. With.regardtn the corrupt practices now spoken of with so much triumph, let Gentlemen recollect how souse, of their own Hoiroorable Colleagues. vt ere :situated sorne years ago. A similar excuse had been given for ,not prosecutinc , the Nobla fiord on the Treasury •Bench - (Lord Castlereagh) and his Right Hon. colleague (Mr. Pereeval), witedit was affir . ined, that although there was eyidently, a disposition foe EL corrupt Oct. yet as it had not keen conipleted, the parties were not liable to the penakles of the, law. The lion. Baronet saw no more corruption in the conduct: of .the .Gallant Officer whose case was now before them,' than that of 'the Noble Lord and, his Hon. Ftiend ; and if the person re commended to succeed the' Vetitioner Wits a tit persOn for the service, the Hon. Baronet could tint conceive how any man could assail the Peti tionet With corruption. But-at all events the Pe tition ought to be received; and not only received, but acted upon, 7 • • The Petition having been read, 'Mr. &IN:VET moved that the Petition do lie upoti the .table; and , be. printed. Mr.' Lostimdi•ON entered into sonic details to ,vindicate his character, and that of the Officers im pliCated in the allegations of the Petition. He 'read several docnrnents and extracts of others, which satisfactorily proved, that he bad not been. instigated by electioneering and interested mo tives in his conduct towards the Petitioners.--. With respect to the course -which the Him. Mem ber might choose ,to pursue on this occasion, it was to him matter of complete indifference. Mr. BRNNET defended the statements made by Captain. Hanchett, and contended that that Offi cer had acted with great disinterestedness. lie trusted that the House would not suffer itself to be persitaded by the garbled extracts read by the Host. Gentleman. Mr. tirYstki objected to the extreme length of the Petition. Sir M. W. RIDLEY thought•that it must 'be left to l'e!itioners to make their own case as they best understood. With respect to the present ones- Owl, he this - tight the explanation of the Hon. Gen tleman ,opposite (Mr. Lushington) perftetly, tisfactor; _Mr. N. CALVERT objected to printing the Pe titiuo, as it, c oirtained charges against the charac ter of an tion,mrEihte Member, 'which, wilhout being proved, would thus': be sent forth to the world with a degree oteatithenticity to which thty might not be entitled.' , Atter a tew words from the CHANCELLOR Of the EXClisaUsß, Mi.I'ISENNET, and' Mr. LUSH , liiGTON4 the question ) that the retitioti do lid ~~