The Sun. — London, England, 1841-01-27 00:00:00

tWENING EDIT 10 N Ifer 'OW openly manifested on both s. - leet •• •• • • of temporary interesta, wa , vier. ~ any sac., mac, e re successes which her arena or negotiatio.•.s could -11 re fer h. in a • unhappily in that she had ke herslay other way . , tf c ` e ded. He had no co:lade:nee that the present star. t a a , der v. !gt, Unsatisfactory .it was, would be of very : 444 . The alionation which had for a Long tine se 04ted France from Russia, and which was partly ,r ot t ' 1 , 41 nature, might be removed. The public ~.p _ whirl hir tg i s telyposse,sed the ambitious Court of St. l' . • an t and induced that Power to exert itself in maintain t l e o e the iategrit; of the Turkish empire,. might be esta_c ee vial' to older and more; steady feelings, to thi elgenceeofwhich there we. not now the t h e it E nglish and French alliance before presented. Ba 4 ,, 41 said that England had been induced to adopt the re utPoliey in the Levant, to prevent France from seizinp e. P°4 EgYlatupon which she had an eye for the last halt aatu r - ' . was cree ping along the coast a t 4', and to which she _ th at i ll '• But whether was France most likely to pursue 6 object, in alliance with England ?—or when s .) epa \ r v at i La , to England and thrown into the arms of Russia 11 14 4 '4' had they that those two Powers, influenced b) Pta t e n tie ittr would not conic together and accomplish b those V il et, much more after they had ceased . to his ally p• Fr ance? T o the talents and ability of s . N . obre b le ed hi the other House, displayed in these n e gotiat , ons, e l a h . as ready as any one to do ample justice ; though Popery (Lord Brougham) who had had experience of the of his Noble Friend in business, • s et tithe departments in which he could in be ne e 6 alled opt) , n to tra t l;ete was only admiration of his address a n r o .d v, h !l i t s y. states_ But ,_ 4 K ti powers—there was no surprise, 1, 4 '7 ld give him every'ion of this tlisr 4 ;. t ? which it was :tree no oixme execs' admitting th e ' 4lB adversary the French Minister was completely in 04 11143 y, it was beside the questi h on ; p he might be cern oliey o g f his Noble Fe el y in the wrong, !iligbt be as entir a e n l d y ye ro t n t g e too. It did not at all that the country of the our had not a right to corn itZef that policy, because the country of the other might t ef grestt and good cause to complain against Ministers. k m !'h be cl ose d hi s o b ser vations he might bepermitted to i le one remark. In God's name do not let it_ for be uric sup that th e p eop l e on this side the water had e t §rt felt i n diff erent to t h e evils, which had been threat aYrOf a w,ar with France, or to the l great blessings of be said that i'lhtaining peace with that nation. 4 e fi h ed been no demonstration to thatt might but this lie id ea — i leum= for. They never believed it possible—thy 144 11 4 . 8 a Practical notion, had never entered their imagi. hr* If they had been once told that they were on the p4i a, War with France he believed nearly the whole ..„he know was confident the great majority of the p . 2eple th° O" for certain an t d hat th a e n overwhelming majority of Working classes middle classes, and all the a u f ai party, as they were called, of this nation, without eXception would have risen up as one man, and kid Chili to the a.trovernment, toe pea . ce with France Th not be broken, come what will.—(Hear, hear.) ~,. en. likewise, another reason . why a no demon reason why - nation had been made was this—it was other demonstrations wore Lora suppressed .The Noble •.2 opposite were not at the head of affairs , the friends m ,"' Peace, the patrons of the French alliance, the leaders r the Liberal party were. The natural allies of that al- J' ll ll e he might call them so, the friends of pacific po.. 11 ,e)'tite l enemies of a rupture with France unless reduced git by absolute necessity, ware prevented front making 4 ' demonstration which they thought might be injurious t,..ethe came of their friends and leaders in the Government. there was another reason which operated, and perhaps e t. reore justifiable one, in his op 1 inioi a reason which did A te ent the greatest possible credit—it was, that a public 'er▪ :onstraalon might possibly be productive of the most Z h .gerous consequences. When they saw the bad spirit , 4111 pre sailed tie other side of the Channel, the Ana arid the means which were so ° leunscrupulous!): af ~- yaa, to foment it, and to produce the worst possible feeli ng oaf national animosity, and the most deter mined opposition to the continuance of peace, these .triecasoos had operated necessarily to prevent , a pub_ demon ,stration. This was not mere speculation, he " e knew it to be the fact that they had been used.. I th ought of ti at as they were ignorant of the precise nature --e negotiations which were in progress, and that . were the l .svros 'd once drawn, no man could tell how long it . would e befor,% it returned to the scabbard, it would be impru dent to ;risk injuring the cause of peace by making a de monstration which all their feelings, all their wishes, would otherwise in itehave led them to make. Let not his Noble the Government, then, suppose tnat this feel ittig did net exist, that this opinion did not prevail, and r\ -itke cP a firm and deep hold upon the minds of the people. not them imagine that if peace ;had been broken, la t r ,, ll4 d e'en been put in real peril of proximate rupture, s e w cold not have been such a sensation all over cet eery, such an unanimous feeling of repro .among those who were the friends of peace ion; alliance with France, as would have made it im anble that that policy should have been pt rsisted in. i.st un d ue means had been taken for bad purposes by mi llet opulent; men in F rance to ta k e a d van t age o f the popu al" excitement there, and propagate an unfriendly feeling !ga.;nst the alliance of that country. He hoped and Rust ed that these men were few, that the proselytes were 1 11 4 uuraerous, and they would fail, as they well deserved. lelttn tented the proceedings , both in the circumstances t e l l : 3 auner in which the aliance, which had occasioned tneeurlx.tlture with France, had been carried on. He la the : e a ‘ the marine r in which it had been executed, and E °f courtesy that bad been shown towards France. Even lhat illostriO•us man, upon whom his Noble Friend . 1 1 , t h : 1 ) 14 : 211 o t l u s iz e o c t o , n e td a th b e e, Address had pronounced a panegyric with all his dispositions in favour di a l with that country, had complained of the Fr - 3 , 1111 °1 wilt which France had been treated. Ia tie,Caey had a nation exhibiting the greatest qua,i kikiitt people known t o p ossess the greatest genius, the tei:. ei "courage, and the utmost military skill and charac ile, co m bi ne d w i t h th ese f ee lings, they might see and i4 i t' ll ' ' 62 •oUs of honour ; sudden . _ and quick in quarrel," oft h at" People having their destinies committed to a man people ex t : Veatest power and genius. Int end Le ly prone to take offence at l w he h y at w m e i e gh a t pbe b"" Id to he offensive, and it should make those dealing T t ; 1 scrupulously, nay, exaggeratedly particular. go er !pose for one moment that any man in that country ea e ` dervalned the military renown of France—that they tt ie . „;' ght lightly or spoke lightly of it—to suppose tha 4 4 1 , 11 nrious Duke, or any of his gallant comrades who tyerol tied with them in many a hard fought field, had • raip a 'l 3 nke therwise than highly of their gallantry and th 11 '1 achi o evements, would be one of the most monstrous n i ,`eSi tions th at ever crosse d t h e i mag i na tion of any lir — He (Lord B roug h am ) h a d h e ard the subject th oaeln :d in every sort of society—by those who had by t more and had thought less in favour of riperFrn -4414: IC who retained some of the vulgar national iju ati-b% , Pf that side of the water ; but he hadi never heard P r ilisnaracing sentiments expressed with respect to ellehgallatli'ry, skill, and renown in any L would be one society. :See never iuld be humbled, and none ad ready ft:inn the Noble Duke himself to t th a t she must always be a great leading and princi ta" Power; and, had it been proposed in 1814 and 1815 neroach th e fraeion of an acre upon the integrity of A le rench empire, at ustrius commander, and no I . e i ss strFiousi negotiator and ill states o men, would have been s tto h ave res i sted i t. No one h a d ever d reamt of e tabling France. The truth was, her humiliation could " 1 3' arise from the unrestrained im!ulgence of those pas ato ris which agitated, as durin ?; the first Revolution, a Ant tof her population. He hoped, however, the designs of such men would be frustrated. He felt a cosifidei.ce at Vie high spirit and manly feeling of the French Govern teek.--in their consciousness of their own power—in their e , e rta.;nty th at t h ey must ever comman d respect —i n th e i r +harleosness that any one could treat them with disrespect ; ands tt u3ting that those feelings might be universal among the French people, and that their amicable relations to. tietds t , is country might be revi%ed, he would conclude Y ex' tr esa i ng a fervent hope that all that had been done, l i t t l i l l a eh as he d e pl ore d i t , wou ld not en d anger th e p e ace of e two countries, and the tranquillity of Europe. Lordl MELBOURNE sa id th a t b e f ore th a t debate had w 1 gun certainly did anticipate, and he still hoped, V" what had fallen fr o m the Noble Lord, that their J ur dshios would come to a unanimous vote on that ocea en. But he could not anticipate that, considering the great events which had lately taken place in the East, and th e nature of the policy on which they were founded, t hat those events and that policy would be passed over by th at House in silence. He was not surprised, therefore, ( t i . What had fallen from his Noble and Learned Friend I ,`"derd Brougham) in the speech which they had jus ,7 ° arti---a speech se able and onuent' Kati in the general ßut he of which he (Lard MAbourne) agreed. . the Was sorry that he could not at the same time concur in f. I e application made by his Noble and Learned Friend o those principles. His Noble and Learned Friend had stated, and with truth, that the Address did not pledge the House to an approval of any of the measures to which it referred. He would say that the Address had been framed with singular care and caution on that head. Mi. 131nuartseureldw wereas certainly aware that the policy they had bold and decisive ; but he trusted when the documents relating to it came under their Lordships' consideration they would be found to justify that policy. f H ee e li t n h g o s u o g f ht too, that it was not calculated to wound the the most sensitive nation. On that subject he would beg leave to observe that it was not sufficient for a People to say that their temper was easily ruffled, in order to compel other nations to violate their general course of Po . liey in their regard . An ill-tempered member of a fa mily could say tt !lty ill humour. Take care, and do not tamper with "—( A laugh.) That would not justify hind in interfering with the rights of others. It was asked I 'll were they so anxious in July last to deprive the Pacha of Sy r i a , when they were willing to give him Egypt' 41 4 Syria in 1847. It was not necessary for h Tat i inquire whether the policy pursued 'in 1837 was wise or not. There existed at that time motives and feelings which did tat exist at present. There were views respecting G Tece thwhich rendered the Allied Governments anxious to settle e affairs of Turkey ; and it was with the object of avoid- Mg the ulterior measures to which they had been since compelled to have recourse, that the most favourable offers were made to the Pacha. It was clear from papers that had already been laid on their Lordships' table—from the dis- Patches of Colonel Campbell in 1838, that the Pacha me "litated his entire independence, and designed to consti 'tate himself a separate and independent Pawer in the ~by Nediteri-anean. His hostility to the Sultan showed itself his seizure of the fleet, and his refusal to restore it, Perfectiv clear that he was determined to encroach tf•l the Turkish' empire, and to constitute himself the sole or greatest Mahomotan Power in that part of the world. It therefore become necessary that the other PoNers should oppose themselves and take decisive measures to cotrzteract his designs.—( Hear, hear .) He could only l ay that th ey delayed those measures fur a great length of time; the only charge which could be made against i _ t heol was that of d e l a y and p r ocrastination. They might "ie asked wh y had they not done all this before, when there was less opposition and difficulty ? His answer was Mil t they were solicitous to obtain the concurrence of the Five Powers. They had no other object but to act together fo r the pacification of affairs in the Levant, and the mainte ets of the Turkish empire. They had been disappointed 4uthorto, but lit did not give up the hope that they should T t!] )°a °, of , the o'clock, and informed the House that durinir the recess he had issued new writs for the election of Members to serve in Pa:lint:lent for the borough of Carlow, in the room of Mr. Viors, dciinased ; for the county of Mayo, in the room of Sir W. Brabazon, decd: cd ; and for the Kirkcaldy burghs, in the room of Robert Ferg , lsuri, decca -t !Agree altogether in that niattera—( Hear, beer)—and encur in such a settlement ee, might tend to secure this reequillity and repose of Oleic parts of the world.— Cheers from the Ministei iel bee ) This eves eliortly distieetly the greund on which they hrd net(( d. His ble Frieed had said that they had ronne ad the viOV..F, He did not ken what designs Ressie might ._v e, bet she was betted by treaty to eencur iii meinteie ,g the integrity of the Tee leish empire. 'Chet ob :et which they had had in view was not fleeted without l o odslied, he must deplore ; but he was cetivineed that it 'ended to secure the safety of Europe and the peace of he world, and he trusted that before long that policy would be concurred in by all the Powers of Europe. He would not enter into any argument upon this, as he rusted there was little difference of opinion. But he must say that it was not in the power of any one country to command peace.—( Hear, beer.) They could alter their iwn internal laws, but they could not say they would have ieace or they would have war. it depended upon other Powers whether peace could be maintained, and they could not say that under no circumstances should they con ent to war.--( Hear, hear.) Having said so much upon :he general subject of the policy of the Government, he eould not but express, in conclusion, the very great satis faction which ho felt in the circumstance that there was io appearance of opposition to the Address. Lord BROUGHAM briefly explain, d. The Duke of WELLINGTON rose, and said that it could not be necessary for him to do much more than to state his desire to rupport the Address, and his hope that ;t would pass unanimously. But he must congratulate the Government upon the ability manifested by the Noble Mover and Seconder of the Address. The speech of the Noble Mover involved many topics of very great import ance—topics too which were not at all referred to in the Speech, but of which the Noble Earl had made the greatest use in favour of the Government which he sup ported, and shown himself an able and experienced debater. With respect to the topics alluded to in the Ad dress. he was one of those who approved of the measures which had been adopted. He had looked for a great eumber of years with much anxiety to the state of the Levant ; indeed, if he was not mistaken, he drew their Lordships' attention to the subject at the time when the events occurred which had occasioned the present state of affairs in the Levant. He must say that under these circumstances he had heard with the greatest satis faction that her Majesty's Government were taking the sub ject seriously into their consideration, with a view to apply the best means in their power for the pupose of removing the dangers with which Europe was threatened by the state of things in the Levant. He hoped, and thought there was every reason to believe, that these dangers had been removed, and he trusted that the negotiations which were in progress would end in the manner to which his Noble Friend had adverted, and that France would join with the other Powers in a measure which would secure the peace of Europe and of the world. He had heard a good deal that night, and upon other occasions, of what was called an alliance between France and England. England and France had certainly co-operated on seve ral occasions from benevolent motives and purposes; and they had co-operated separately from the other Powers in the affairs of the Peninsula and the Netherlands; but he kne •V of no other alliance between them. They consulted and acted together upon many points, which were the subject of general interest in Europe; but he knew of no alliance peculiar to them in the general alliance end treaty of the various Powers of Europe ; at Aix la- Chapelle they acted in concert ; but they had often acted otherwise than in concert.—( Hear, hear.) My Lords (continued the Noble Duke), I cannot forget that, when I had the honour of being the Representative of this country at Verona, I was separated from all the other Allies on that occasion, and we differed with France on the subject of the expedition to Spain. I came away from Verona, my Lords, on that occasion, and the ques tion to which I refs r was then debated and settled in both Houses of Parliament ; but the result of our difference with France at that time had not led to any strong or vio. lent measures, and I do not see that there was any neces sity that it should have been the case in the recent instance between this country and France.—( Hear, hear.) I must say, my Lords, that in the course of these transactions I I have seen nothing that can reasonably be called discour tesy towards the French nation.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") I have lamented, indeed, that the negotiations between the two Governments should recently have been carried on through the medium of private notes, rather than by the ordinary means of diplomatic ar rangement ; but, if these forms are observed, surely there cannot be room for a charge of discourtesy. This is the only fault that I have, so far, been able to per ceive with respect to recent transactions ; but if all parties agree to carry on this correspondence by private notes, rather than by diplomatic notes, the people—the public.— may, and perhaps with justice, complain ; but I must say that, throughout the whole affair with the French Govern ment, not knowing more than has publicly appeared as to the ground of the difference between England and France, I see no reason for France to find fault, any more than I did to complain on the occasion when I was left alone at Verona, when all the other Powers took another course from that which I pursued myself.—(Hear, hear.) I therefore must do the Noble Viscount (Palmerston) the justice to say that I do not see that there was any dis courtesy practised, or that any discourtesy was intended. —( Hear.) With respect to what my Noble and Learned Friend opposite has said regarding Russia, I must remind my Noble and Learned Friend that, at least in my opinion, his charges against Russia and her objects in the Levant cannot be said w arise out of this question.— ( Hear, hear, hear.) I must remind my Noble urn! Learned Friend that. so far back as the years 1831, 1832, and 1833, the Russian Government made strong and frequent representations to this country and to Franco with a view to prevent an invasion of Syria by Mehemet Ali, and even then foretold that the result of the neglect of Europe to settle the question of the Syrian invasion of Turkey would be that they would be under the necessity of marching an army to Constantinople. My Lords, I must say that when in office in the years 1834 and 1835, I felt clearly the inconvenience of this state of things in the Levant, and I was in hopes that the Emperor of Russia might be induced to take some measures to put an end to that state. I have no doubt that the Emperor of Rus sia felt the inconvenience of the Treaty of Unkiar Ske lessi, and that had he acquired other security for that afforded to him by that treaty, he would have been ready to accord with the other Powers; and I think that it is not exactly reasonable to say at all times of that Sove reign that he seeks other of jects than those he professes, and to cry out at the present moment, " No, it is not for this object he combines, but for some other object of his own, for the object of breaking up the alliance between England and France."—( Hear, helm.): I believe that what the Emperor of Russia alleges ho is sincere in.— ( Hear.) My Noble and Learned Friend alluded to the excitement which has prevailed in this country with re spect to the pt eservation of peace. My Lords, I must say, in the presence of my Noble Friends near me, who have not had the same opportunity of knowing it that I have, and I assure my Noble and Learned Friend that neither he nor any other man living has done one half as much for the preservation of the peace of the world, and above all for the honour of France herself, and for the settlement of those questions in which France was more immediately concerned, than the person who has now the honour of addressing your Lordships did, under the instructions of the Government lie was serving.— ( Loud cheering.) With that view, from the period of 1814 up to the last moment in which I remained in the service of my King, I did everything in my power, not only , for the preservation of the peace of Europe and for the con tinuation of the good understanding existing between this country and France, but moreover to place France in the situation she ought to fill in the councils of Europe ; and that from the conviction I felt, and which I feel at the pre sent moment as strongly as ever, that France should occupy her station amidst the councils of Europe in order that the peace and tranquillity of the world should be preserved, that justice should be done, and that sound decisions should be come to on all questions affecting the nations of Europe. —( Loud cheering.) My Lords, I and the Hon. and Noble Friends who acted with me in 1830, clearly proved by our conduct in office at the time that we were as anxious for the preservation of the peace of Europe as any men could be, whether of " liberal politics "or otherwise, and as desirous for the good undeistereiieg of this country with France—( Hear)—arid particularly that France should be upon a good understanding with all the Powers of. Europe, and that she should take that piece in the rank of nations becoming her interest, her station, her power, and her civilization.—( Cheers.) My Lords, I felt called on to make these remarks in consequence of a hat fell from my Noble and Learned Friend opposite upon the great excite merit which prevailed in this country respecting the appre hended war. My Lords, I believe and hope that the No ble Lord opposite will be enabled to reconcile France with the arrangement of affairs made in the Levaet, and nothing will be more satisfactory to me than to see France re. stored to that seat which she ought to hold in the councils of Europe. The Noble Duke concluded his speech amidst general cheering. Lord BROUG AM—lf by what I have said I have drawn from the Noble Duke that statement with which he concluded his speech, I may with confidence say that I have rendered the most unportant service that man could for the preservation of the peace of the world,—( Hear. ) The Address was then agreed to, and their Lordships adjourned till One o'Clock to. morrow (this day). or to congratulate them on more glorious prospects than those which were now before them.—(Cheers.) In entering on the discussion in which they swre now about to engage. he should endeavour to do so as much as possible without any party feeling, in order to show lion. Gentlemen opposite that it was his wish to endeavour as far as possible to conciliate a ll parties. The great object was to secure the entire and cordial co-operation of the House in the Address he should presently have the honour to move. The first topic to which he should allude was not touched upon by her Majesty in her Speech, though it held a pi mnincot p irt in the Address he was about to move. It was a subject not more prominent in this Address, than in the hearts and affections of all her Majesty's subjects. It was a subject on which his feelings irresistibly carried him along, and it gave him the greatest pleasure to feel it was a subject on which he could indulge the full, un restricted expression of that pleasure in common with every other gentleman in the House, and every loyal subject out of it. The event of such national importance to which he alluded was the birth of a Princess Royal of this country.—(Cheers.) On this point there could he no diversity of opinion ; and he felt he did but do justice to all Hon. Members when he stated Isis con viction that he (lid but express the feelings present in their hearts, in asserting that that House viewed with the most unbounded delight and joy that auspicious event. When the House met last year to address the Throne on the deelaratjon of her Majesty of an intention to contract marriage with his Serene Highness Prince Albert, they did so in fond anticipation that a step, which was so fully approved of,and met with such univer sal approbation, would, through Divine Providence, be attended with all the blessings and domestic comfort and happiness by which it was the ardent de sire :of all her subjects that her Majesty should be surrounded. if then they did, as undoubtedly theyi did, derive inexpressible joy from the anticipa tions and fond hopes they wore led to entertain, how rejoiced should they be to behold the accom plishment of all those fond wishes, and how gratefully they should thank the Almighty Giver of all Good that ho had deigned to hearken to and answer the nation's prayers to protect her Majesty through all the perils she had undergone, and to give to the country a direct heir to the throne, who, he sincerely trusted would have her mother's vir tues,*and would preserve unimpaired the Constitution of the country.—(Hear, hear.) He now turned from , the many pleasing reflections the subject he had adverted to :produced, , to a subject calculated to raise up feelings of honest pride and ex ultation in the heart of every Englishman ; he alluded to the glorious achievements which had been accomplished, not only at Acre but on the banks of the Indus and at China. The latter triumph might not be so glorious as that of Acre or the banks of the Indus, but it was not less important in its results. Those achievements had not been undertaken for the purpose of territorial aggrandizement, hut for the establishment of the independence of the Ottoman empire, the better government of India, and to repel an insult on the part of China, and to obtain for the merchants of Eng land redress. Their objects also were to vindicate the national honour, and to place the commerce of the country upon a more sure foundation. It was pleasing to reflect that in all these undertakings her Majesty's efforts had been either crowned with success or were upon the eve of being so. With respect to the political state of the country, he had no hesitation in asserting, that upon the success of the measures of her Majesty's present Government, the in terests of the country mainly depended. The course they had hitherto pursued had been iltended with the most beneficial results. They had riNntained the peace of Europe under circumstances unexampled in the his tory of any nation. Her Majesty in her Speech from the Throne had declared it to be her intention to use her best endeavours to establish and maintain the peace of Eu rope, and the guarantee of the other Powers of Europe to aid and assist in that great work would allay those fears which had been excited in consequence of what had taken place in some parts of the Continent. — (Hear, hear.) The settlement of the Eastern ques tion had been rendered certain by the glorious success of the British arms at Acre, end by the arrange ments that had taken place the power of Mehemet Ali had been circumscribed within its proper limits. They had the strongest assurances from the Throne that the negotiations entered into by her Majesty with the great Powers of Europe last year were on the eve of being brought to a successful termination. It was to be sincerely lamented that in the course of events France had thought it necessary to withdraw her assistance from the other great Powers, which had confederated solely for the purpose of maintaining the peace of Europe and the safety of its political relations. It was, however, satisfactory to know, and it was matter of self-congra tulation to this country, and to her Majesty's Ministers, that the righteous objects they had in view, and which it was their determination to secure, had been attained without the assistance of France. and even in spite of her opposition. To the former Minister of that country another had succeeded, in whose abilities and modera tion Europe had reason to repose every confidence. They might hope that France would yet see her error, and would enter again into friendly relations with this country, and renew her former intercourse with us. The immense resources, and the many depeudencies of that great empire, imposed a very serious responsibility on those who had to conduct its government ; and it was to him matter of rejoicing, to find in the mea sures and principles of our colonial policy that love of justice, and those principles, of liberty, on which a free country should ever act. (Hear, hear,) It was matter of congratulation to look to the prosperous state of our colonial possessions, and especially of the Canadas—( Hear, hear)— to see the rapid progress of internal improvement in those provinces, and the great advancement of their commerce. It was most ratifying to observe the temper with which the Canadians had received the measure for the union of the provinces which was passed by this Parliament in the last Session.—( Hear, hear.) Many who were hostile to that measure during its progress, were now doing all in their power to smoothe difficulties, and to give it a fair trial.—( Hear.) For his own past he felt quite as sured that at no distant period that country (Canada) would become a great, commercial, and powerful nation. (Hear, hear.) Amongst the intentions which her Ma jesty intimated to Parliament, none would be received with greater pleasure than her declaration of the neces sity for maintaining economy in every department of the State, so far as was consistent with a due regard to the exigencies of the country. A necessity had arisen for sending out two power ful fleets to carry on operations, one of them in a very distant part of the world. This necessity had naturally entailed a very great expense upon the country. But expensive as those armaments were, the expenditure was of small importance, com pared with the maintenance of this country's honour, and the protection of our fellow-subjects and allies in all parts of the world.—(Cries of " Hear, bear.") In reference to that part of the Speech which alluded to the administration of justice, we understood the Noble Lord to say that the present state of the Court of Chancery was a crying evil, and_ com plained of from one end of the country to the other. Of course upon that subject there would be great diversity of opinion, but he did trust that Parliament, in whatever alteration it might make, would, as far as possible, remove the evils which were complained of. There was another subject reterred to in the Speech from the Throne in which the House must feel a very deep interest, the expiration of the power of the Com missioners under the Poor-law Act during the present year. He felt satisfied that Parliament and the country in general held the Poor-laws in very high estimation. Its advantages had been felt throughout the kingdom not only in the improved social condition, but also in the improved moral condition of the peasantry, and, he felt perfectly certain, to make the best possible provisions for continuing these benefits. Another subject alluded to was the state of Ire land. Much good had been done in that country by the present Government, and had they power much more would be done. He hoped Parlia ment, before long, would receive more thankful fruits of their anxiety to bring forward measures for the improved condition of that country. There was a Bill o be brought befo re the House b y the Attorney-Gene ral for Ireland , which he looked forward to with the deepest that anxiety,of Registering V o t es . He s incerely hoped viz. a Bill for the Improvement of the that Bill would be favourably re ceivedin legislating for Ireland the House Mode wauld ; no tt not cons ider how little, but how much, it could do for its benefit. He implored the House to consider ho.v fair and just the demands of Ireland were. She required and asked for nothing more than to be put on an equality with the people.of oily nation. he l ls` manded n othing more than equal l privileges. e the H ouse grant these, and they would make her a peaceful and happy nation—withhold them, and he shrank from the consequences.--( Hear, hear.) He implored the House to grant this common justice, and they would then be able to solve the enigma which had been asked in this House so frequently in legislating for Ireland—they would be able to make her con t en ted, hannY, and prosperous —not only a source of strength , but also of commercial wealth. Ho was happy to bear testimony that Ireland partici pated in the general prosperity that pervaded every part of the e mpire. She was improving in wealth and i n d us t r y, and great benefits were perceptible from the care that had been taken to disseminate throughout the par ty spirit and religious rancour did exist to a country the a dvantages of education.—(Hear.) Al was yielding to order and law, under the tcheortnagiinl e xtent throughout that country ; still he believed benign influence of the Government. These rem matters which agitated and disturbed the in Ireland, and this was one that created t icp. l re i li a reb t tnladiic s ni t ylt r yn i a f: nl7dde great grief in his breast—he need hardly say he alluded to the repeal of the Union. To that measure he was most determinedly and decidedly opposed and therefore he could not view it without fear and apprehension at any time ; but that fear and apprehen sion was a hundred fold augmented when he saw the repeal of the Union agitated at a moment when the NEW MEMBERS. Mr. CAILENV took the oaths and his seat for the county of Wexford, and Mr. PtnoT, the Attorney-General for Ireland, took the oaths and his seat, upon his re-election for Clonmel.i CARLOW ELECTION. Sir T. FREMANTLE stated that there was an other Hon. Member (Col. Bruen) who was waiting to take the oaths and his seat for the County of Carlow, but there was an error in the date of the return. The election took place on the 30th of November, and a return was made on the sth of December, but by some accident or mistake it was dated the sth of November. He (Sir Thomas Freemantle) apprehended that it was merely a clerical error, and that it did not affect the merits or validity of the election ; but if any doubts were en tertained upon the subject, he was prepared to point out a similar case which occurred in the year 1792. The Honourable Baronet then referred to the Journals, from which it appeared an entry had been made, to the effect that the House be ing informed there was a mistake in the last return of a Knight of the Shire for the county of Huntingdon, the return being dated April 15, instead of May 15, it was ordered that the Clerk of the Crown do attend and produce the return. That having been done, and a Member having informed the House that he was present at the return, and that it was made on the 15th of May, it was ordered that the return should be amended by inserting May instead of April. The Hon. Baronet concluded by moving that the Clerk of the Crown do attend the House forthwith and produce the return.—Agreed to. The Clerk of the Crown immediately attended and produced the return. On the motion of Sir THOMAS FREMANTLE the entry on the Journals was read. Mr. ARCHDALL stated that he was present at the election for Carlow, when Colonel Bruen was re turned. The election took place on the 30th of No vember, and the return was made on the sth of De- cember. Sir THOMAS FREMANTLE then moved that the return be amended by striking out November and inserting December, which was accordingly done. The subject was then dropped. POOR-LAWS. Mr. E. J. STANLEY gave notice that, on the part of Lord John Russell, the Noble Lord would, on Mon day, the 29th of February, move for leave to bring in a Bill for the continuance of the Poor-law Commission for a limited period. REGISTRATION OF ELECTORS. The HONOURABLE GENTLEMAN also gave notice 'bat, on Wednesday, February the 3d, Lord John Russell would move for leave to bring in a Bill to amend the Laws relating to the Registration of Parliamentary electors in England and Wales ; and that on Thursday, the 4th of February , Lord Mor peth would move for leave to bring in a Bill to amend the laws relating to the registration of voters in Ire land.—(Hear,) The Noble Lord would also move on the 9th of February for leave to bring in a Bill to amend the laws relating to the drainage of lands in Ireland. ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE. (IREL AND). The HONOURABLE GENTLEMAN also gave notice that on Tuesday, the 2d of February, Lord Morpeth would move for leave to bring in a Bill for . the better admi nistration of justice in Ireland. EAST AND WEST INDIA DUTIES. EQUALIZATION. The HONOURABLE GENTLEMEN also gave notice, on the part of Mr. Labouchero, that, on Tuesday the 2d of February, he (Mr. L.) would move for leave to bring in a Bill to equalise the duties on East and West Indis Rum—and that on Thursday the 4th of February, Mr. Labouchere would move for leave to bring in a Bill for the better regulation of railways. NEW WRIT FOR MONMOUTHSHIRE. Mr. E. J. STANLEY then moved for a new writ for the county of Monmouth, in the room of Mr. Wil barns who had accepted the Chiltern Hundreds. The HON. GENTLEMAN also moved that a new writ be issued for Canterbury in the room of Lord Albert Conyngham, who had accepted the Chiltern Hundreds ; also for the borough of Walsall, in the room of Francis Finch, Esq., who bad also accepted the Chiltern Hundreds. Mr. KEMBLE moved that a new writ be issued for the Eastern Division of Surrey, in the room of Richard Alsager, Esq., deceased.—Ordered. NOTICES OF MOTION. Mr. FRES H FIELD gave notice that on Thursday next he would move for the production of any written communication which had taken place between the Lords of the Treasury and the Commissioners appointed to inspect harbours relative to the port selected for the departure of the East India mails. PUNISHMENT OF DEATH. Mr. KELLY gave notice that on Tuesday the 9th of February, he would move for leave to bring in a Bill for the Abolition of the Punishment of Death in certain cases. Mr. E WART gave notice that it was his intention to move for a new constitution of the Com mittees on Private Bills in order to pro vide against improper local interest, and increas ing the responsibility of Members on such Com mittees by reducing the number. Also, that on Tues day, the 9th of February, be would move for the reduction of the duties on East India produce, including tobacco, and to assimilate the duties upon such pro duce to those levied upon tine produce of the West Indies.—( Hear, bear.) IRISH REGISTRATION BILL. Sir 'l'. FREEMANTLE, on the part of the Noble Lord, the Member for North Lancashire, (Lord Stanley), gave notice that on the 2d February, he (the Noble Lord), would move for leave to bring in a Bill to amend the law relating to the Registration of Voters in Ireland.—(Cheers.) Mr. O'CONNELL was about to give a notice, when he was interrupted by The SPEAKER, who said the Hon. Member ought to put his name upon the List- Mr. Sergeant 'FALFOUR ID gave notice that on to morrow he would move for leave to bring in a Bill to amend the Law relating to Copyright. Mr. BROTHERTON gav e notice that on the Ses sional Orders being moved, he would move that no new business he commenced after twelve o'clock.—(Loud laughter.) • IDOLATRY IN INDIA. Sir R. INGLIS gave notice that on the 4th of February, he would put a question to the Right Ho nourable the President of the India Board relative to the employment of the troops in India at Idolatrous Festivals, and upon the answer to that question would depend the course he would think it his: duty to take. ECCLESIASTICAL JURISDICTION. Captain PECHELL gave notice that on Tuesday, Feb. 9, he should move for leave to bring in a Bill to amend the Tithe Recovery Act, entitled the sth and Gth, William 4th, and to take away the jurisdiction of the Ecclesiastical Courts, in all matters relating to tithes under a certain amount ; and that to-morrow he should present a petition from Sarah Young, who was then confined in Monmouth gaol. for not appearing to a citation of the Bishop of Landaff. PARISH CONSTABLES. Sir E. KNATCHBULL gave notice that on Mon day, the Ist of February, he should move for leave to bring in a Bill to regulate the payment of Parish Con. stables. CONSTABULARY. Mr. HODGES gave notice that to-morrow he should move for leave to bring in a Bill relative to the appoint ment of the County Constabulary. Mr. FOX MAULE gave notice that on Tuesday the 9th February he should move for leave to bring in a Bill to improve the practice and extend the jurisdiction of County Courts, and on the same day he should move for leave to bring in a Bill to extend the jurisdic tion of the Court of Chancery in matters of bankruptcy. REGISTRATION OF VOTERS.—IRELAND. Mr. O'CONNELL gave notice that if the Bill of the Noble Lord, the Member for Lancashire, did not contain a clause to define the franchise, he should divide the House on the motion for leave to bring in the Bill.—(Hear and a laugh.) Mr. HERRIES wished to know if there would be any objection to his moving for certain returns re lative to the funded and unfunded debt ? and gave no tice that he should move for these returns on the motion for going into Committee of Supply. HER I n) A p l O A s i J n E s... S t T h a n S SPEECH.-THE AddressC H .b—e presentedrr n E A D t D o l h t e E r SS. The SPEAKER said that he had that day attended her Majesty at the House of Peers. Her Majesty had made a most gracious Speech to both Houses of Parlia ment, of which, for greater accuracy, he had procured a copy, which he would then read. The SPEAKER. then read her Majesty's speech, which will be found elsewhere. Lord BRABAZON said that in rising to move that a humble Address be presented to her Majesty, in an swer to her most gracious Speech, he felt. the greatest possible pleasure—a pleasure unalloyed by any dis agreca'nle feeling, except that occasioned by his own utter inability to do justice to the subject Ma jesty, expressive of the grateful sense which the House retained of the most gracious Speech which she had that day been pleased to deliver from the Throne, he felt b appy that the subjects to which he should have to draw their attention were such as would confidently enable him to a nticipate that Hon. Members on both sides of the House would cordially agree with him in the Ad dress which he was about to propose. Seldom had it fallen to the lot of any one standing in the situation in which he then stood to have to direct; the attention of the House to topics of greater interest than those which , had been put forward in the Speech from the Throne, HOUSE OF COMMONS, JAN. 26 The doors of the Gallery were opened shortly before two o'clock, and on our admittance the general ap pearance of the House s..ruck us as much lighter than last Session. The interior has been repainted of a light cream colour. The bode lights occupy the same places they did at the close of the Session ; they have, how ever, been ornamented in such a manner as to give them a much more elegant appearance than formerly. The attendance of Members was scarcely so nume rous as it usually is at the commencement of a Session ; the only occupants of the Treasury Bench at two o'clock were Sir Henry Parnell and the Attor ney-General, while the front bench of the Opposi tion was at that hour quite unoccupied. Mr. Ewart, who entered the House shortly after two o'clock, seated himself for a while on the front opposition bench in the place usually occupied by Sir Robert Peel, but he soon crossed over to his old place, and joined Mr. Hawes on the second bench on the Ministerial side. The only Conservative Member of any importance, who was present at this time, was Sir Frederick Pol lock. Shortly after two o'clock, however, the House began to fill rapidly. At twenty minutes alter two Sir Augustus Clifford, - the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod, announced to the Speaker and the House that her Majesty required their immediate attendance at ti►e bar of the House of Peers, and in obedience to this an• nouneement the Speaker, accompanied by the greater number of Members then present, and pre ceded by the Sergeant at Arms, bearing the Mace, left the House. The Speaker returned after an ab sence of about ten minutes, and the House adjourned during pleasure. The SPEAKER resumed the Chair at Half-pact Three . .. greateSt concord and union wererequired atnong ail shades f cherish tire -greater blessing Of peace, idly and gone- 1 proof—it wan that thas we could not hase acquired by that ot Reformers to maintain that poaer and that position reasly extending suc h civil ;had religious b ene fit s as exp..,,tliti..:l any ine•ilia . ied sceuritv aganist Russian - which they now had. He -implored those who advocated might prove bleseaa gs 1.0 neaseend whatever their stile soil way 'i a ,.„•,- . s i sey . theetna . in instiga ‘ tor ug s g f r t t f::: , N . h e sia ass ter that measure to pause ere some calamity befcl the or statien, tl•* creed or colour. anion e s d : - • ' ‘.. a 0 bad been tLking Secunti . , s ilga . inst Russia her country, w i lliCh they woul:l 1.1,: the first to regret. He with the propriety of the . Address of t his :N e t ebl e e s 11•''lie'rvrCls, s a e rc i. c • . T N ' i N n r e e s ' ta u n .e c t o, and with the es-operation of raussia her felt Inci:e t.. o trespassed on time House too load —ire had with respeet to the reasons of - conara; s c m :w or ro 4 i:m o both on : 1; 11st:hong t ho u very , pa , r , parry is im i o i nt we sus tenc.UtC.:: l e: , _i t ' d • T p l on ; m ore eubiss i ts than one which her .I\ll- account of our domeetie , a.. - ISe • - 171,1 ' peeled of enter . t u air c i s r , ftT,,f l - st);,po g st d r e a t e b h a e t r o , i s ,e d 'ju g s ,' i s oM n ( e e r e al r o , to r hear.) I t . lr jest; by til o , e i n i toneil in her Spceett, and he wonld con- faire, he hoped that at such a thrice I r ee - Unless obsy Brunow—aho ac (Mr. Grote) had 'heard was t i le, House for the patient bearing when all should be sunshine, Co a ncoro', a " t ' ' r- r ) 1 1 u P u t in r ; ° e ' r ' they had ' a't4flotr)ginsidercil a ficron of very tiistinguished rages:ht.-- ma d ca lli ng upon them, rupted happiness, they would unite in ' a corgratul...- - 17n with earnest c i ' m i l ;fl ` a, him' to support the Address tory Address, expressing their sincere loyalty ' and „f- of i t . l ' ri s s ln° ❑ w"s ""ning his oj.- I n harvest, the Government eountry meet base been mistaken. Car af those which he had the honour to move.--(Cheers.) 'lle fiction, and their deep sense of . avaa'tu I- for the, conclusrons must be come to—cith • • Russia I• d ^ - , i sos to—either had ho eg Noble Lord then read the a ddress, w hi c h was a n e c ho general prosperity which, under ... Divine Providence, igfessive designs at - all, and in that case their motive for intermeddli fi ng. fell to the ground, .ariol their precautions of her Majesty's speech. the Government policy had produced. were su e i r m e er su u e o h us ;or else she had aggressive i Mr. GRANTLEY BERKELEY in rising to sea Mr. GROTE rose and said, In offering to u, the iles_gof., but as . could , be executed as well after the ex cond the address to the Crown, was happy in having House a few remarks upon the isoiked" should[ hich they w I not pulsion from' Syria of Mehemet Ali as before i'. CI . that o y pp o o nrt t hoen ity o f congratulating the House and the had been proposed for adoption, e b o y u i t e tr r Ma jest which iilternative they 'night, he should •y 1 • ' e "."6L ,s fo_rs o ign and domestic policy pursued think it necessary to examine in detail the Speech yki vernment.—.( - lear, bear, hear.)— livered front the Throne, nor to touch upon Itll, - Although attached pestition afforded to u; no possible security against to a Liberal policy as he was; and even upon most, of the topics which it brought bef !l o o,r vren she might entertain. Finding nothirg whi ' ch c'ou o le - 1 a supporter of the present Government as he had been them. He need hardly say that in the expression of appear to loon to be sound or satlsiactory in ' the -rom . on many important occasions, yet be felt eon- congratulation which it had been proposed to offer to on support of a t ;?. :) ,, e trie l i ) i, o ti l .t i ib e c i ic of vinced he shouldobjectiontl,Niobtbol Noble t -1 ; ' ' and' he seas g i. ‘ , '' - '° s 'i : - .. not effer to the car of tl • t House her Majesty with refetence to the birth rreodf. floored that ps•_a_. to take . nay) had theca sent to the Sjriair one single sentence of congratulation aiii that la would the Princess Royal, he most sincerely concurred. l i i b i r e ti • i t ' a . purpose of I :revlting oiny wrong to not meet with the views of wto heard hint. He was sure that upon that point at least there would He was fain to beli e ve th a t th ere did no t ex i s t a man be no difference of opinion in the House. 'rim Speech, d h (, r) ,rot for the purpose of prof:wino - i, , a vantage to the nation—not even fur the .'''‘ • ) in England, Ireland, or S cot l an d w h ose breast had been taken as a whole, appeared to him net to be very rich l it' repelling foreign invitehrs from the Ottoman empire pso 'Joao dead to the news which arrived by every Indian mail, in promise. It dwelt principally upon foreign affairs— p'‘,imtsvlcurnfutli' e a :Sod rdpins:tti'i cassisting the detailing the triumphs of British arms throughout the topics certainly of great importance but he must almneighbour—heSulsuon to d s t ubt i lue a' length and breadth of the continent of India. He eon- remark, that even with reg o a o r t \l e t e o fo a r t e l iign e a h tf i a . i i r i s t ro lme e tr t mpi l ' es object to be neither a wise nor a legitimate o ) n n e s • i fo u r .c liri t t h i ,a l t r gratulated the country, and he congratulated the Govern- which it omitted to went upon the Cuhnitnrey,arms or British . interference. It theyOldShim that they ar, as being so advantageous present to the mind of many who heard him, were l s tard ) l e y were done in pursuance of a generala.'asteirm of policy, to the great commerc s i e al w interests of that country, and of less importance than those to which it referred. There founded on guarantees, for the purpose of suppressing here let him remind the House that among ti re was one topi c amongst those noticed in the Speech other attempts to dismember tine Ottoman empire—in Iris angry discussions of last Session, Ministers were on the which was pre-eminent above the rest in interest and (Mr. (31 •°te'') ' lcy ' of the q uestion ' this only made verge of losing the reins of Government for nothaving importance, and which had excited discussion and en- matter worse. Oilier Governments might ent'er into such counselled a submission on the part of that country to the gaged men's minds to a very remarkable degree since the guarantees, bat with his coesent Engla t n i cl iey sh t o n u i " , d ht ne e v q e u r ai d ly o indignities of Commissioner Lin, and the injuries which House last mot. He alluded to the Syrian expedition' British merchants had sustained—(Hear, hear) —he its causes and its consequences. Upon that topic Inc so. If that principle were acted on, well enter into guarantees with regard to Pe' • ~ , r siv a L ,uo l r d " b i e would remind the d Right Hon. Baronet the Member for should entreat permission of the house addressEmpire of Morocco ; such a policy, however ' to Pembroke ; although he now heard him, that them a few remarks. In approachingthe subject it reckless and extravagant on the part of the kiov% . rinnun e t of England. It could produce no national benefit, Right Hon. Baronet an' could not forget that he had was his first duty to say that he thorouehl : heartilyl .e j _ am been greatly instrumental o in opposing the motion concurred in the remarks which had beetYin'rema,didbotli while it would involve the country in expsnses which he would defy any imagination 'to atipitte. t w h h a t: n b i e t was ni i ir ught forward. Still he felt coeddent by the mover and seconder of expulsion of Aleliernet Ali :rem Syria'llad been now g ( IHon. Baronet was too generous a p - in commendation of the gallantry, the eilici re's' c g o ' , l i_ l i c sulaniated, whether for good or evil, but the system of litij the foe, and too enlightened a statesman, not to join and the naval skill and decision which htl . been en d N e i j s-: 1 1 ) 1 ( ar li t c.), s ' with perils. him and the . House in congratulating the country on its played by our army and fleet on tire Syrian t ( coast towards the Ottoman Empire was preg and) I m m e r a il a s. eincr lt e had been opened may on the first p ar r , t a as io un st t C rt i u ti t u npha i nt position. Whenoperationscommenced one could feel that more sincerely than he did. '' But page, ed—anor hen°feu•rgvettittillattrpuagtedwtase• sh N o V u e ld had- M tre remoteness of the seat of war, the while he perfectly coincided with - the Noble Mover of need escao —the present terrible reality y of al:y e t:min; in_ the that novelty of the ' circumstances, and the enormous flume- the Address in applauding the merits of our officers and of a European war • but he did not f the less i fe l .ar that are rival strength of the power against which they wore to our seamen, he was sorry to say that he could not soin scooinoteetard, might well have raised a doubt in the minds of' chic in applauding the spirit inexpedition It been urged on ;but the verse ar, hear.) it that t expedition It should be remembered that the tero7t ( o o i rya t s t ynitenis s w t i i n s ie t i l i rc h i a ss i tre ; but they had now seen that the had been conceived, or th. ) purposes li w e( intdeil policy instructions to the Admiral to accomplish.—(Hear, hear.) ' ll I r ( ' ' 'as couldnsot of such an event were in therrisel P ise3 fu ' ll ' commanding on ( the g i s y t e a ri ti o was founded on the most forget that they had been exertin ,, their . L . ? chief.—( Hear.) England and :ill the other . 11:it a ion nn' i, s: ' a e, gair. t_ Europe kept up war establishiniAits—(llear)—and mo s 't just calculations. t must be most gratifying to the persons with whom they had not the' slenderest ec ground tinned the position of what moin.iwyalled an armed re a .: . . "- breasts of all, that a mere handful of men, schooled of quarrel. N e ith er M e hemet Ali nor li t i i s te partisans, I N i ow that so itself was no light or trivial cyil.—(Meier. to forbearance, but determined on success, had humbled nor any person in Syria, had inflicted smallest utthe feeling in which it originated was of a lios ' liiie the Em brutal), pr c itle . of an enormous empire, and forced the wrong or damage either upon Englishmen o r u p o n Eng- r.,, tendency ; it gooney the uncertainties as to th e f uture ; :i_ureei,ttic,qlbiteilicitimiatlrnayedolfnectavpital, l and awakens dreams of coo n. complaints to Ie ror of tuna for the future to regard the humblest lish interests.—(Hear.) They had no no merchant, while trading with that country with redress, no injuries to revenge, Y no trround et) fo ns r anger und or i tt L i s ilacawhilst it raised honourEnglish and re respect. f Not only was the highly-trium- displeasure against any body ; nay, so far i anist anxious apprehensions in . ES ' i n r i o l t u ir t er s i n ° TT ' ) p c i o ninomena were pliant heN i o u ble Lord likely to be productive was concerned, and the Christians resident in Syria,great evils in themselves. Let the house e animas of the English om e o l d os l e ;ae o n i ea t p b e e ople to . ava li r t d ra s s e t ac tt h e o s t e h m e i ; of he beneficial results a mercantile . point of view, but stood upon record that they bad been befriended by lic in the beginn past year, and would . to regard them in a religious point of Government of the Paella of Egypt. 'Whether his Go- any man say that that change was i ~, , not to be deplored ?-- tIOW—(A laugh)—and that the dawning light was vernment had been comparatively better or compare- ( Hear, bear)—would any man say that it was a subject k! c y) o c ngra t tu d a 2 tion ii so un i qualified as the Noble Lord hod re-' about to break through the darkness of that idolatrous tively worse than the Turkish Government which land.—(l - le l ar, hear, hear.) The mass of the Chi- preceded him, it had been indisputably authen- , er m s ear..) H i e had often heard it said by had been taught that they were ticated that Christians in Syria had been better pro- l i, r ot, c 't s) l .) . e esh . y - Calinlaar, France was a t t h l a n t t , li e al liaii e e be dcalinepen'tphea enlightened and powerful nation, instead tected by him than they ever were by the Gove-n- I ween lj Enc;;:nd and bestgi s e e atur . e in their of with humble wln barbarians, and not only had England rnents which preceded him. They found it attested system of foreign policy, and was the•i.matter f f or the been brought into . greater repute by that policy, but both by Colonel Campbell and by Dr. Bowrina, under his tranquillity of Europe. How often was it am e their commercial interests would be hereafter much Government the trade of England with Syria ' hod bee'. gratulation to every enlightened mind, that:ol(7l ° o cu ; which embittered those neighbouring nations against ear:, better attended to. Look at the conduct of this coup- considerably increased ; that the number of English ' '' miler down to 1815, was giving way, and relat ‘ iou e s lc :f try in Syria—look idthe at the glorious and biilliant career merchants there resident had greatly multi lieti,and our ay amity and private intercourse were rapidly multiplying,. so p unprecedented bombardment and that the Christian residents generally, to whatever p de that the mere contemplation of a state of war wab'e takinr, of it ' Jean at d Acre, which was not more honour- nomination they might belong, enjoyed both justice - in coming intolerable. But how stood the fact now ? The able to the Gallant Admiral ;who commanded than to dealing as to their property, more extended civil . rights, feeling of union between the countries had passed away r and seaman engaged ; and Inc would and a firmer protection against the violence of fanatical he the blame distributed as it might between both parties, — e n ve t rY il a o relaiv forbear from referring to the subject, although Mussulmans, than - . am Turkish Government .en had con- the old European jealousies of 1815, had been revived, Le •t . e of his own was engaged in these o perations. leered upon them. - -(1 - lear, hear.) I Il o tl i a our expo- t h especially Oil the art of the nation which was van o•t them look at the simple facts. The first landing dition had attacked and ' expelled ' t ) lte P c o it i ti n c . ci a tit , tilia time.—( . Hear, hear.) Nothing was heard f the Turkish troops and British and Austrian marines without any of the ordinary and universally .t' ree.cfogEndijs'epdt . u,, o o s i v g , au t s o o o f tt u s b nl ii e e s d o i t s ' e the . Chairel, i especially in the lead wrras urk ffe h eted on the 10th and I lth September. 'fire motives, he would ask upon Y what rounds w p a e s di r t t io u ri n vc e ,a r s - 1 t,tasnaidordi,isdivatincaittildnosiroorutsl oildc I t a li a:l:l t s fur reparation on t P tie one side rocitamounted to about 6,000, the British taken? They had been told that g that ex marines to t about 1,500, and the Austrians to 230 ; the undertaken as a part of a scheme of policy which had What a contrast was there iu the beginning and close -s ° of fi t c h r e past year. Entertaining a high esteem for the French whole did not amount to 10,000 men. The troops of for its object to maintain the independence and into- nation, he looked upon tire rupture of the alliance as a Ibrahim amounted to 6,000 men, in different parts of grity of the Ottoman empire. On referring back, they singular mistortuec to both parties ; and he deplored it the country, but the people of the country were all found that a guarantee for such maintenance teas given the more, when he was compelled to recollect that the a si g o ain r s a t i ntn, having been driven by cruelty and oppres- on the "ith of July, 18•391 by the Five Great y initial a cause L of this change—the tropical-point from which esperution. They therefore flocked to the s ea of Europe. He (Mr. Grote) must say that to Powe rs hnit t a i t: c e : r l t r h L i a s t rays from the nations bea n ch for ' and from first to last received 30,000 this explanation of the object and the principle of of ‘ E ' u u rope 1 07 ,c si e nat i egd ati wit t i (flear.) stand of arms. weapons,A Turkish reinforcement followed the the expedition was not sufficiently satisfactory H e Ile entreat l ed the !louse to look to Y what b jul)% * had ac cruA by our victories which c ounterbalanc e e n d em i s m t first expedition, and then from 12,000 to 14,000 Turkish could not admit the policy or the propriety of the hostile feelings of 1815. The Noble Lor t d e lla r d eViV ' l rOOps were engaged. These troops, he thought, had of the expedition ; still less could he admit ' that the Easteat Question was settled, but lift o es i . - txie c n ' teL ci eel ; il s e l la el i r e n tr d y) : . found in Commodore Napier a man possessed of the the policy or the propriety of that system which it pro• what he had unsettled.--(Clicers.) The Nob!: most dauntless courage, of the most daring enterprise, posed to enforce generally, or of that guarantee ref which it for Foreign Affairs had cured a i ts d te d m iii p v c e r n in it t i h n o:. and gifted with a genius available alike on land and Proposed to carry' into effect with . erenee to of oar continental system, and water.—(Hear, ,hear, and laughter.) Fort after fort, the integrity of the Ottoman ' empire. He and vitals. He had awakened feelings in MOO'S bosoms and town after town surrendered to their joint attacks would, for the present, make no allusion to the which were fearfully infectious, and would spread fromleold The Egyptians, whenever they could escape from their . Proclaimed r epugnance of France to the Treaty to land. Against such risks arid mischiefs, was it sufficient tyrants, came to make submission. The fortress of Acre, of last July ; he would suppose that France consolation • that order •reigued in Syria, and that we load which hail defied Napoleon at the head of his best' had acquiesced in that Treaty, and he was still pre- overreached Runia by a Russian method of troops, and had withstood every attack of Ibrahim him- Pared to contend that the expedition against Mehemet paian.—(llear.) It was complained • cam self in 1831 and • 1832, surrendered to a British and All was neither a wise nor a legitimate expedition. ala b aster, that he risked a Euroiheat:ta ag i u ‘ a p i l i o u n st iiu s t a j u l u e ld n i i,o 'c r h - Austriansquadron, after . an assault of less than four 'fire guarantee which was given by the Allied Power tans a question as to whether Meltetne a t r Syria. Now he (Mr. Grote) asked what mischiefa re - tam hours. . Never had the skill and valour of the British of Europe, on the 27th of July, 18:39 l•da•d ,p I e t. those . have arisen if the settleineht of the S ‘ riati questio n."l(i Navy displayed itself to greater advantage, or with less Powers to the maintenance of the integrity of the been postponed, or if it had been pert iil the sattest had loss, their mortality having unmounted to no more than Ottoman empire under the existing That by tile a•reaty of Scutari, in 1633, upon which ' the N at u e b",!‘ . 60 men. Compare this attack with that of Algiers, and guarantee admitted of two cons , ruct . (ll i a 'l:: % h y e e . ytniglit Lord congratulated the House in Nlarch 1834, that the . look at the results. In the latter had been lost 800 men, either take it as a covenant between those Powers dilforences of the l'orto and :\l,heinet Ali had "eon ssas_ yet this was considered as one of the greatest exploits of to abstain from any encroachment upon tli ' e ' Ottoman factorily settled ? tie possessed in July Forst no greater the British Navy. What, then, remained to them but empire—a covenant to abstain themselves, and to t er ritory than that settlement awarded to hint. 'roe congratulation. By sea and land their arms were secure to the Sultan all all . anei ferrite- Sultan endeavoured to counteract it in 1839. What the successful. The policy of his Noble Friend ries unimpaired, so far take i j t o lois guarantee in its la 1840, by tine Syrialt expedition. late Syrian expeolis larger and fuller sense, ' as ml to secure to the nations in spite of the attacks of France, and the crysubservience was avowedly to rapture the convention of Scutari, in Turkish Sultan and his successors the whole Turkish to the new settlement of the Ottoman rsea at home. The Government bad done their tints', and avers it the lust act of his Noble Friend, lie ' might empire entire and intact, to guarantee him a g ainst all p in " W "uld the new settlement be any mot; lasting ? lie knew that it would last so long as the Noble Lard fairly exclaim— chance of resistance or invasion or division of his held the irresistible force he then possesses'. By the " To-morrow do thy worst, for I territory', either from: external or internal causes, aid same means the Convention of Scutari might have Have lived to defy." to secure him, by forcible and positive interference, been ii made lasting, and the expedition to Syria, —(L , liter au a .) In alluding to the Foreign po lic y of from any attempt at resistance or emancipation on the and the rupture with France have been Lvoidc d.— ei up a pd e o n ert i t it ib t e he vic il n ei: s i ( t l y f Ministers, he should refer to our relations with Ante- part of any of his subjects. Construed in the first sense, ( li..ar; hear.) If then he co Id • 1 • r a ici b i. ritf lic could not do better on this subject than quote the guarantee was on declaration on the part of the Five for interfering by force of arms t sentence or two, with the permission of the Powers to defend the Porte against foreign invasion, time Ottornen Empire, he shook? still t i t: : o i t d t I I for e la'siblc House, from the Message of the President of the and in that light it might lead to much ernbar- Lord had taken the most unexceptionable accomplishment of that oaject. Having a know e led ,, e th of house of Congress. The Hon. Member here read a rassment ; but in its larger and fuller sense, it the Convention it was his elaty to take all reasonable passage from the Message to the following effect : appeared to him objectionable upon every ground, means of maintaining that settlement, but if the Noble ' With all the Powers of the world our relations are uncalled for, impolitic, indefinite in point of ex- Lord chose to become himself the direct instrument of those of honourable peace. The excitement which grew tent, and indefensible upon any correct views subverting the settlement of Scutari, anal to introduce of international obligation. He out of the territorial controversy between the United ' hopedGentlemen would a new settlesment of the Ottoman empire, he said is was States and Great Britain having, subsided, it is to be not be displeased if he them whether the • had • Y a his (Lord Palmerston's) bouriden duty to see that the new hoped that a favourable period is approaching for its considered the extensive consequences • ' implied in this settlement was riot such as could oifford any ground of termination. From the nature f the points • ''' o in debate, obligation on the part of England to maintainthe ' in- quarrel or disunion or hostility among the (great Powers and the undoubted disposition of both parties to tegrity of the Ottoman empire against t,al all causes of dis- of Europe.—(llear and cheers.) That was a goaa bring tire matter to a conclusion, I look with memberment or disruption, In everstudied ro tb as well as ex- pitaper object, and how the Noble Lord's plan confidence for a prompt and satisfactory conclu• ternal ? Had they a past in course of' had accomplished. it, the events of the last six month* told. sion of the negotiations."—( Hear.) The spirit of that Turkish history, so as to have become e of th,t, Governmenteguat slwitir el-il:iewolTildd,reasoaf thus l it he could acquiesce in tlici prin : passage proved that the Government of England had the character and workingiobti.e.p.tiototiofiu,Groeat Britain tu in s ~. te i rlere to down n ta ( i ) n the done . their duty in relation to that question. There which they were thus lending an artificial perpetuity' to ' pie lie , eneucladrintoyt agree.t• I B tol i a e n . oat ti s ir i c , was a recommendation in the President's Message to —( Hear, hear.) Were they aware that - quarrels '.o?f• but in this priirci did, and feeling strongly as he did, 'isp !cv Believing a ' tine ;which he also wished to refer. That recommendation the Paellas one with another, and disobedience of Syrian expedition, he had troubled the House ' at ' ,T reater' had for its object tire diminution of the legal traffic in Paellas towards the Porte, were almost a part of the SYri length ; t hen he ha:: wished. fie had only a few words to slaves, and he would wish that the advice were order of nature in the Ottoman empire *?—(Hear, England, wherever her dominions ex- hear.) Were they then prepared to promise to the ' tined to obmtainreslll)oceLrotfhecrurt internal alpine= we ld we i re a d". their the c 0... shadows taken 1 by .et , and that site . should endeavour to cradi- Sultan support against every disobedient Paella ? Wile, of timidity' had at length castt )r t u v po o n . , a t u d d cute hld the evil wherein it existed. That trade suppose any other Pacha in the Turkish empire, time rooted all the visions and growitig he ••• o exploded . now assumed a darker form than ever from the Pacha of Bagdad, or any other, should find Reform Ministry, and had perisherlik s : c a i t a i a our- 'usable, at le...:st with regard to foreign affairs let them injustice whi . it • eli did to those who honestly conformed means to appropriate to him - elf two or ta • •11 s threw swig 1 m c that which had been bequeathed to them by an to the law. Wherever that trade prevailed it should ing Pachalics, would tltey say to the Sultan, " Don't neighbour )reserve i. . un, ,cd and a reformed %fora' 'a inistry—he meant peace be abolished with even-handed justice. Let him,take l— so_ with toreign Powers, bat more especially with our nearest therefore, express a hope on that topic, that the time here is a fleet and an army ready to subdue him ' neighbour—France. He thought our most valuable and was not far distant when her Majesty's Ministers would (Hear.) Or suppose another case, one b • yno means most comprehensive interests had been put to hazard for _forward complete,generous, thoroughly-provided- unlikely to occur. Suppose these very Syrians, to whom bring a sir object not only remote, but on which we might have for, effective measure, unrestricted to any particular re- they bad been supplying muskets to put down the had their co-operation. He therefore declined coaacurritia , pion, for the importation of free labourers not only to the Paella, should rise and employ these very muskets insentiment of e eh-operation or acquiesceoce in the Mauritius, but to the whole of our West Indian colonies. establishing their own independence of the Sultan •,) in fur at.'y eign policy jt\i of s th 6 vcrtiment.--( Cheers. ). But to return to subjects of congratulation. We had (Hear, hear.) Were they to send a fresh expedition . fide. : , E thought the merit' of.. the foreign policy now the full flush of important victories upon for the purpose of rccon • • ' our quering them ? He did not of the Government spoke fur itself in its resulf6, eau now whether gentlemen had troubled themselves t o ',ceded on d e f,nce. lie hoped the country would be lon mind, grateful to the people, honourable to the a . , . , the policy of ;the lion. _seat ema,. analyse all that was contained in that ,uarantee and in spared the Calamities of Government, and glorious to the country.—(Hear, hear.) He would now glance at some • the l' •which 1 d points re po ley la been pursued, but this he knew, al)Pc'sitc• — (C l 'a cr S .) in our civil and domestic affairs—and first to that it' they acted consistently with such policy, they in the commencement of tile Session soon after a a s n , z o lo s n le as and as soon the New Poor-law system. The introduction of that would find themselves compelled to interfere, only itt as possible after the objections to the'foreign policy pf the system was one instance amongst many s, the erro neous the cases which Inc had supposed, but in, not Government hial been stated, to state' Iris views or that There was thousands neous feeling witigigaich alterations of an old law is often of analogous cases which would arise. asa pecu- foreign policy, and to_ explain to the House the grourris ou received by a par onion of the people. The new law liar reason assigned for our interference in ' the affairs of which ire rested hislapproval and support of that foreign vas, there could be no doubt, in the first place, de- the Ottoman empire, and it was one conn 1 with ectes. p o lar, y lie felt4i.loomfielent, with regard to any further ob :dedl ur, o c' y ,p pular, and it frequently happened Russia. Many persons said that if tl • s its country did not jections which might be awed relating to those quest:orms, that the most unfit men were made the • • I • instru- inter ere in the East, Russia would ; and if she did, she :list his Noble Prtend, the S e cretary of State for Foreign as on any future ()mi ld be able to promote her own ambitious views on Affairs, Would be quite ready then, Parliament the fullest eiplanation of :he ments of carrying it into effect.—(Hear.) He knew instances in his own county of the improper and oppressive administration of the law on its first coming into operation. In one case he knew relief to be refused to an aged couple—both npwards of eighty years of age—who refused to go into the workhouse, and who had never before applied for relief in the whole course of their industrious lives. Now, however, the provhioas of the law were curried properly into effect. The poor were now feeling and acknowledging its advantages. There existed now no doubt that the Poor-law Amendment Act was pro gressing in the most satisfactory manner. In his own county the rates were reduced twenty per cent., us compared with the three years preceding the passing of that Act. On the sth of January 1836, there were in that county 846 able-bodied men receiving parochial relief'. On the s th of January 1841, there were but 26.—(Hear, hear.) In spite of letters, writ ten from the felons' cell, to stir up discontent and to render the law odious. In spite of these and other sub terfuges resorted to by persons who sought only by such means to screen themselves from responsibility, it could not be denied that, genoially throughout the coun try, the great mass of the people showed an im proved disposition to look to couscquences.—(Hear.) lie might safely say that the snow ball of the Chartists —rolled, in the first instance, by a disaffected people who had nothing to lose but everything to gain—by confusion had melted away before the wise mea- SUIT 3 of her Majesty's Ministers and the returning good sense of the people. Incendiarism was forgotten, and the day labourer could now retire in peace to his cottage. He begged pardon of the House for having trespassed so long upon its attentior, but a sense of duty, and a feeling of gratituk to the Government which he had so often supported, and at other times so freely opposed, had led him to make these remarks. He would now express a hope that her Majesty's Ministers, having been so successful in using the art of war, would for the time to come sedulously sion, to give to . art,. grounds on which he' b ad acted in pursuing the course which he had pursu ed. I t would be in the remem brance of the House that her Alajesty, at th e cum. mencement cf the last Session of Parliament, h a d informed the House that the Great Powers of Europe had been unanimous in a rresting the hostilities which ha taken place in the Levant, and her Majesty had forth( expressed a hope that such unanimity might continue, arm that the result might be the upholding the integrity and independence of the Ottoman empire, and the, giving fresi, securities fur the peace of Europe. He regretted to say. and the 'Hon. Nlember for London could not feel greats' regret than he did, that the hope which had been expressed that unanimity might continue among the different Power% on this subject had not been realized ; and there was no one of the Powers of Europe whose separation from the rest, with regard to the affairs of the Levant , b e had seen with greater regret that the seces.don of France.-- (Cheers. ) But with regard to the great object which they had had in view, they had s ucceeded, they had upheld the integrity and independence of the Ottoman empire, and had maintained the peace of );,gLope; and he under. stood that the Hon. Member for tailkon admitted such tc be the case. But with regard to the policy by which tiles( objects had been effected, *understood that the vices o the Hon. Gentleman differed entirely from his own. He (Lord J. Russell) however, believed that the course which had been pursued was, if not the only course, a; leapt the course of all o thers the most likely to conduc to the preservation of the integrity and indipendence of th Ottoman Empire, and to the preservation of the peace c Europe. There was no necessity for him to address are lengthened argument to them on this head, inasmuch rt! in the answer to the Address of last Session; the House ha'.. expressed its approval of their objects. The Hon. Mee, ber for London himself, and the other lion. .111ernbe, a ho differed with the Government as .to the means pte - s ued, all admitted that the preservation of the . integri.l and independence of the Ottoman Empire was a subj.. • of paramount importance. But the lion. Member . London took a different view of the measures to ho pe , •• sued for the purpose of effecting this object. The lie Member, with his usual perspicuity, had informed tr._ won._ .o pi. the subject. That was an argument one heard very often, Now, it appeared to him that that argument, with respect to Russia,went on a supposition which,when plainly stated, would appear absurd and inadmissible. It implied that the fact of this country's being desirous of Arresting the career and the ambitious designs which Russia was supposed to pursue against Turkey—that, with the fact of this country's being desirous of doing that, she had no better means to employ than to outbid the offers of the Emperor Nicholas to the Sultan.—( Hear, hear.) That was what the argument supposed ; it supposed that if he increased his forces we were to increase our ; so that all those offers which the Emperor of Russia, animated by some sinister object of his own, thought fit do make, we, having no sinister objects, had to make on our parts. He should say it appeared to him that a pluin statement of the argument was enough !, to show how little it ought to have guided our co?eils. • It degraded the foreign policy of this country into a blind imitation of whatever Russia might choose to do. It. gave no security at the same time against Russian ambition except such as , was to be most troublesom e, costl y , and least effective. It would appear, in fact, as if we had' no better chance of rescuing Constantinople from Russia than constantly outbidding the Emperor Nicholas in offers of service ; and we certainly had very little chance of sueceding, in that way. But it was fortunate that we did possess a mare powerful machinery for the purpose than any thing implied in the argument he had been stating. The real security against the ambition of Russia, as regarded C o nstantinople, was to be found in the direct terror of our army. The fleets and the armies of England, ready to . be employed in the prevention of the designs of Russia, fumed a guarantee against her usurpations, well known and suffic,ently effectual. So long as the Emperor knew that h e cou ld not hold Constan tiuople without incurring the enmity of England, so long might we be assured that he would not make an attempt on the independence of the Ottoman empire. The objection against the expedition to Syria, was one that required no TOE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 27. 1811. EVEN INN- ED.ETION