The Sun. — London, England, 1819-05-17 00:00:00

FOR THE SUN. ROM.kN CATHOLIC QUESTION. Mtt. EDITon-It has been sufficiently shown, both in my last letters and hi those of your more able Corresprindents, that the noman Catholics coisnot with any truth advance their present cliims upon a principle of equality of right, of neon pretext of enduring slavery or persecution under the existing laws. Slavery and Persecution are favourite terms in use amongst the Advocates of " resent the ettect of Emancipation," to misrepresent those very laws which have hitherto been (as the great Commentator calk them) " the Litilwarks of oor Constitution," and of that Liberty we all-- 0 2rotestants and Catholics--,-alike et6oy;— They too well know how many are (triode(' to an actpicAcence in their claims by the cry of " Eman cipatinti and Liberty," wbo would decidedly op pose them if iirrred honestly but less speciously, ciainis of Privilege and Power. Political privilege and power are, in tact, (and in many instances are a . cl.ttowlydged to b.) the teal objects for which the Itotn.in Catholic; ate now contending : altd, notwithstanding the cou victims which the most cursory retrospect of the Briti,b Ann ds would he stiflickot to produce that Popi,h Tyranny and • Ambition were the sole causes of those miseries under which the British Nition groanel, till the Revolution its 1685 ef fected for the Pi otest ant 9 a glorious Emancipa tion from real s lavery—notwithstanding all the expt;rience England has so dearly purchased—not withstanding every principle which then actuated Popish ambition is authoritatively known to re main " to the least tittle unchanged"—and, notwihstanding the various and ample proof of the utter impossibility of a Popish Admioistra tion conducing to the interests of a Protestant People, there are unhappily those wlt maintain that Papists cannot be excluded from those pri vileges (Aide!) would pave the way to an ultimate asoendancy of destructive power), consistently with justice, while their Protestant Brethren are admissible to them. But surely, Mr. Editor, these men must be wilfully blind to that vast distinction which exists between a Protestant and a Papist on the score of eligibility. Roman Catholics acknowledge the supreme authority of Foreign Power—Protestants own no other Power whatever than the British Sceptre., le is this connection :vith a Foreign Power which forms a principal, and a very sufficient groom!, for pro. nonncing Roman Catholics ineligible and inad missible to stations of Political Power in Pro testant England. Those who maintain this ob jection are stigmatized as illiberal advocates of an unjust monopoly of privilege—and sufficient as it is, we are told by the liberal party that it s overthrown by the assurances of the Roman Ca tholics that " they do not acknowledge any tem poral or civil jurisdiction on the part of the Pore extending over the Bi it is b Empire." Let me di rect your attention to the sophistry of the Papists in making this declaration. Observe—the Spiritual Dominion of the POPE has never been denied even by those who, simply on their own unsupported and individttal authority, have dis claimed the temporal power—evidently with the intention of beguiling Protestants to a belief that they•decid(dly disavow all those intolerant and arrogant doctrines, and tyrannical usurpations, which have scourged the nations of every age anti country. litri this is not the case—these declara tions, so sevming fair, are totally delusive, and correspond exactly with all the former Gotorious soi&stries of the Romish Church. She never pretended to claim a foreign temporal jurisdic tion, for by virtue of her impious, .assumption, that to her is delegated power jure divino " over all the kingdoms of the .earth," she will declare that she has ever held the wiloLe world to belong and to he subject to tier maternal and Spiritual Authority, anti that therefore no part can be fo- reign to her jurisdiction. Besides, it is the Spiritnal Power of her haughty Pontiffs we have most reason to suspect would be employed against our Constitution. It is this Spi• ritual Power which has ever been the mighty en gine employed by Popery to accomplish its ini quitous and arrogant designs. Was.it the Tem poral Power of the Pope which threw all Christen dom into uproar, and caused such confusion here in the time of our 2d Henry, in the affair of the insufferably proud Thomas a Becket ? Was it to the Temporal Power that Monarch bowed (on which occasion one of the Cardinals blasphe mously applied the words of the Royal Psalmist in the Pope, " He looketb on the viral, aro! :snake'lt it to tremble, &c. He is terrible to the I;:iiigs of the earth !"), and was compelled to walk barefoot to his shrine, and pray to him as a saint rind intercessor, who living had beet' his greatest rnemy ? Was it the Temporal Autholity of Illnoctot. 111. which laid ibis whole realm under tin i;i • tcrilici in the teign of loi)? Wk; - s it by lite authority iq her Tempdral Power, the 110 ly Chord' " reminded King John that she bad ever used to correct Princes that *ere disobedient to her !" that all his subjects were released from their allegiance, and which finally compelled the pusillanimous Monarch ignominiously to resign his Crown, and hold the Kingdom at a yearly rental, as the vassal of an haughty Pope ? Was it the Pope's Temporal Power which absolved King Hem y 111. from Hs oath to observe the laws of Ma'gna Chatta, and the people in after times from 'licit allegiance to Henry VIII , to Elizabeth, to James 1., and to Charles 1. ? Was it the Romish Temporal Power which summoned Henry VIII. to Rome ? which overwhelmed Ireland with ruin in the time of Cromwell ? it Lich pretended to give authority to the Romish Bishops in Ireland, in 17'29, to restore the Popish Pretender, nod de stroy King George 11. and all his family ? (See Irish Cownion. Jonrord, 4 App. 46.) Does the Pope, by his Tempo'al Authority, declare " the Protestant Minis! ry beret ical and invalid, Pro levant mattiages void,'' and their offspring iliegi tintatc ? is it the ret»poral Power which, through the medium of the Priesthood, would compel a Papist in office to divulge the most important se , cseis of this Protestant State in spiritual con tessii-i to a sworn eoenty to tits! State In fine, does a pleteosion to Temporal Supremacy of the Pope forbid the Papists' entire and loyal submis sion to their King, and mike them indignantly sport, his interference in the nomination of their Bisliops ? these are merely at ty of spi ritual authority—exercised by a supreme spiritual tallier for the spiritual vi di are of his chilitren. The disavowal of such presumptuous anthOrity ritzy lie swcere, hut as piocet ding from inditi duals, it is wholly unavailing—they cannot bind the succeeding generation of Catholics to act up to the saute professions, or to continue in the sante heresy, - for if any considerable share of power he in their possession, the Romish Church will tell them it is their duty to use it for her be oefit—that they are no longer at liberty to act upon any declaration contrary to her laws--she will remind them that their promise of a non-re petition of the past attempts ot the Church was for that it was opposed to acts of her spiritual aothinity, and never haviug been re pealed, must be rentued for the spiritual welfare and punishment ot the " Northern heretics," whose souls would other wise be damned, HMI therefore that " being strong eitOtigh to punish and suppress the heresy without danger to the whole Church, the good (CAtholies) must no longer tolerate the evil," but must deliver them, " by public authority, either spiritual or tempo ral, to be chastized or executed."*, For the ex istence of sneh sentiments as these, 1 re; r your Readers to the republished Rhemish Bible, whose notes breathe u nd iminished enmity :,.?,,titist the I'IIoTESTANT RELIGION )111d ESTABLISHMENT, and sll clearly poipt out the evils v, mu s t neces sarily follow upon Popish nosses , ion of power, that I heartily wish it uere in the hands ot every man—coorident that it would convince the most liberal and inCrethelotis mind of the excessive fully of again hosting Political Power in those hands which have ever hitherto so crudiy mis used it. ALBERT. • Let the Nation retorrub2t that this GREAT CHARTER of our Liberties is damned and declared null by an ancient De c' re of the /ion ao Church, milt now is force. 11 e may h e rentinded of this hereafter by the Catholics when too late to profit by it I t " To deny the spiritual authority to include the tempo ral, is to fall into the Manichean lare4y, or the acknowledg- Lrient of two distaict. principles." Pope Boiniace Rheinish iiihle. Annot. on Matti'. xii. 9.9. kl A T Ltl CAL REGISTE R. Peiformed on Saturday Night. TPI EAT 1:k: ROYAL, MU ItY-LANE.—TIie Carib Chief Omreith, INIr. Kean; Claudina, Mrs. W. West. After which, Past Ten o'Clock, and a Rainy Night. THEATRE l ov,iL, UOVENT-UAIWEN.—The Gamester : ver lev, Mr. Young, Mrs. Ilet erley, Miss O'Neill. After which, The Sleep Wilier. 'l'o which was added, A Roland fur an Oliver. ..• For VIGIL, see the First Page.—For LAW ASSOCIATION, . see Ow Last Page. PRINCESS oF WALES BORN.—Holiday at the Bank, Ex chequer, bast lutlia, :tut! :,,uth Sea Houses. ARRIVED.-.. 2 Dublin, I Waterford, 1 Holland, I Flanders, Franco. Dur.—l Waterford, 2 Sweden, 1 Hawburgb, i Lisbon. HIGH WATER AT LONI)UN BRIDGE TO-NIORROW. blurring, 12 minutes alter 9. I Evening, n 7 minutes after 9. THE SUN• 501SNI QUIS nicEtu: FAI,SU hi /to DEAT ? LONDON, MONDAY, MAY 17, 1819. We receiv,ed yesterday and this morning the Paris Papers of ThurAay and Friday last. The - - . • trial of CANTILLON and MAnINET, charged with attempting to assassinate the Duke of 114,LLING TON, proceeded on Tuesday and Wednesday. On the former day the question arose upon which so much was formetly said, whether the Duke of WELLINGTON'S letter to Lord KINNAIRD con tained a guarantee for the sate return of MARINET JO the Netherlands. Sir G. MURRAY having given evidence of the letter which he received front Lord Kinsman, referring to the otter of :MARIN RT to disckse the conspiracy, the latter stated, that in proceeding to Paris he relied upon the gua rantee given in the Duke of WELLINGTON'S letter. The A OVOCATS-GaNBIZAL interposed, asserting that the Duke of WELLINGTON nettled having written any such letter. MnittNET persisted that such a letter had been written by the Duke to Lord KINNAIHD,, and that on his arrival at Paris the latter assured hint, that the Duke of WF.I.- , tANG"rON had again promised that his (NIARINET's) sate return to the Netherlands should he gua ranteed. I he ADVOCATE-GENERAL defended the Duke of WELLINGTON boll) the ilOpUtatiOß thus tbrorrri uprio hicadiscrVine; that the nod faith' anti hononr of his GraCeartlld not be doubt ettj here there were murmurs In the Court, Whidit---weVe sti•buit,ty condemned by the President. The Aotto6aTE- GeNERAL proceeded to reNr to the peftion of Lord KlNNatno respecting thirr-tinestioo, which was presented some time since to the Chamber of Peers, observing, that upon that occasion it was stated by M. tie MoNTMORR,NCY, that the Duke of WELLINGTON had declared that he had made no promise whatever to 11ARINET. The Minister of Police, the ADVoCATB-GENERAL observed, had only promised MattINET that he should not he arrested on account of the sentence pronounced against him in 1816 but neither the Duke of WELLINGTON 001 the Minister made any promis,e to him that he should remain at large when he had been found to be concerned in the conspiracy against the Duke. M. Dopier, the Advocate for MARFNRT, disclaimed any intention of throwing the slightest imputation either upon the Gott et nment of France or upon the Duke of WELLINGTON but still con tended that the letter of his Grace was considered by the ENGLISH AMBASSADOR in the Netherlands, by Lord KINNAIRD, by the PROCUREUR-GENERAL of that Kingdom, and by the Count fps IVOttoN zorF, as containing a general guarantee of safety to MARINFT. The ADVoCATC•GENERAL then stated, that the Duke of WELUNGTos had de clared, by a letter under his own hand, that he, did not intend to give any guarantee of safety. The PRESIDRNT observed, that it was use less id prolong the discussion, and the hearing of evidence proceeded. On Wednesday, however, on the examination of the Count de tVoIiGNZOFF, the sane question was resumed, Matti NET having milted the Count whether, in his conference with Loud KINNAIRD, the Count bad not given his opinion that the letter of the Duke of WEL LINGTON contained an actual guarantee of safety• 'rue Count answered, that Lord KIN• NAIRD had not !hewn him any letter from the Duke of WELLINGTON, our had his Lordship asked him whether IMARINET would or would not be tree to return to Brussels ; the Count added, that he knew the Mike of WEI.LJNGTON did not wish to intctmeddle itt this affair, but to ltave it to the French Government to adopt whatever riteaores were thought .suit-tole. The next wit ness who was called considered the whole affair to he the result of what he called an English in trigue in • the Netherlands against the French re fugees.' On the evidence being closed, the Advo cate-General was heard f,r the prosecution ; 11 CLAVEAU for CANTILLON, and M. DUNN for MA RINET. The Court then adjourned till Friday, when the President was to sum up, and to put the questions to the Jury. In the Chamber of Peers on Th ursday, the pro• j,t respecting the transit through Alsace was pre- sentcd by the President of the Council of Minis ters, and ordered to he printed, and referred to the Bureaux.—The discussion was opened on the first projet relative.to the Press, and after hearing three speakers was closed, and the deliberation corn nitnced on the Articles. The first 7 trete adopted. In the sth, the Duke de FITz-JAmps proposed to insert before the words " against Public Morals," the words " against the Christian Religion." This • Amendment was supported by the Viscount tie NIoNTMoRaNCY, and opposed by the Baron de BARENTS and the Duke de RocHEPovcAtn.r.— . The discussion was adjourned till The discns.,lon on the projet respecting the Financial Accounts, in the Chamber of Deputies, w a s continued through Wednesday and Thurs day, and was adjourned till Friday.—The follow- ing ore extracts : " PARIS, MAY 14.—The King, whose health daily improves, is expected soon to resume his , accustomed airings. The Cardinal de Perigord, Archbishop of Paris, was with the "King yesterday, in his Cabi net, for two hours. The assembly of Bishops, to which more Prelates have been sunntioned, is to meet again this day. . _ . " The Countess of Gothiand (Queen of Sweden) had yesterday a private audience of the King. The pretended intelligence of the abdication of the King of Sweden is a mystification. FIVE PER CENTS. Wednesday .. Thursday Gt; f. JO c. DEFERRED STUCK. _ - W eduesday. Thursday. Of the 22d March, 1817.....94 f. 50 c... 841. 40 c. ,e2(l Sept. 1817.....f0 f. 50 e... R 2 f..ioc. 22d Nlarch,l3lB... SO f. 50 c... 80 f. 40 e. 22d Set. 1518... 78 f. 5o f. 4tl e. 22d March,1319.. - .76 t. 50 c... 713 1. 40. c." New York Papers arrived this day, to the 26th April. (From the New Yon': Commercial "Iclee-tiser.) FRANKFORT, APRIL 2.—YeLLow ~TONE ExPe- DlTloN.—Preprations to render this Expedition poet erful and imposing are going torivard in every part of our Country ; troops are marcl.;ng for Sc. Louis from Plattsbourg.,, horn Detroir, and various other vertels. The symptoms of hostility Which htiVe -been exhiliiteit by Or" °t the Indians have determined the Goverotneu t trr send a number of Men, and strike a lasting dre ad bite the Men of the forest. Tim Expedition to Si. retet's will start before that to the Yeilu' q Stone. These Expeditions are of immense inv pnoltatice to the Western Country in a two-1.014 view—they will drive fot eign influence out of the adjacent Indian Tribes, and protect our frontiers., THE BityrisH MlNS.Tr.r,.—The George Tow li Messenger strates, that Mr. f3AI3 - n-r, the I.3liti sli , Minister, was to leave Washington on that for Annapolis, with hig family' and sn?te, they will wait the arrival of the frigate F6ifil , hoard of which they are to return to Engl3ll(Vj Mr. ANTL:O3US remains as Cliarg6 d'Atfairei: • If we had not the firmest reliance on slid w•isdom and, patriolsm of the House of .14‘ , " 15° on the Bench of Bishops, the allotted Guardian, of our Church, on the known attachment or tile estimable Head of the Law, and on the aIW /st. character of the ILLVSTRIOUS NCH who exerc i ' e ! the authority of his venerable Sire, and who f eels. , with that excellent Monarch, awful nature 0, the CoßoNaTtorg OATH, we s h ou ld trem ble ifor d ie consequences Of the disc Zion which is to tak e place this day on the Claims of P o pEay. 13 ": hilly confiding in , he rectitude and sag acity 4)' these distinguished and elevated character! , feel secure that our Establishnient in Church ' in State will be firmly maintained and securely P re We highly respect the talents, the lear°'. and the public spirit of Mr. Citorcstt, be 'v i e ) Cannot 'assent to the doctrine which li e turd) in the vet y exciAlent speech which ' le made on the 3d instant, in ftc House of Cotemons, of w hick we gave a comprehensive sc(01"1 in our Paper the following day. The Honourable Gentleman certainly displayed great iogenuity the occasion, and threw some new lights veil a subject which seemed to be exhateited ; bti r must he rrtuitted to observe, that the Annual le demuity Act treats all those who hare neglected 1 . 1 he take the required oaths as offeaders agai nst tierl it Law, anti gives them littlemni!y, provided comply withip a given period It is strange,io"4" that from hence ao ari-, , ument shred() have het ° drawn to prove that the Law is not wit , " it a l ci . litany is, and is annually rec o g nized to be.-- ; ‘ 11.: `` 'se CtIOKER observed, that ;I has been said t ha t do not exclude the Roman Catholics ; they c $ elude themselves ; let them quality tlientselves bf the requisite oaths, end then they will "Pifie eligible to office." Nothing can be IT" )re solid, and substantial, than this position, 4". 10 it is an effectual answer to all the ""t)1... able Gentleman's oven arguments. h ie cti set red, that at a time when r estri° 4 against the Roman Catholics were re-enße(6, the Country was threatened by a POPISH p t i n 4 TENDER. So it is now, not by an Irtolvioutsoo aspired to the Throne, and whose interest it , e ° ,o - , have been to preserve the Monarchy , b ut by I ' l o f PISU PRETENDER, consisting of the wir01,E.1309%0 the PoNsti Cuuacrs, who Want to get irosie°s of of Political Power, to subvert the Governmeilto,n, this Country, in order to introduce its overtreligT6o3 and consign us hereafter to flames , torture's to eternal destruction, if we refuse to storeoficro, the Head of their Religion our GLORI OUS 6°Bfr served. rtyrtorst and our NATIONAL.FAITII!! It is not surprising that the Revolu tioll . Spirits in France should peitioti tie Leis/31110(r. for the recal of their Leaders, who, in ease' new convulsions, might, by the l i g hts of tbeir Peo vicious expetience, organize such o perad °lll o f on may more effectually tend to the destrileti ble the Monarchy, as soon as the present King shall be released from all human irc"lb Att -eg ; 'Foo many of these Revolutionary Lea ders Regicides have been permitted t o return, Andy formerly tasted of power , they 0° rally anxious to regain that author it y whicbmi:d employed in oppressing the People and cor'6l."-Icfs their own tyranny. it is impossi ble that 11110. wretches con be cured of their ambition 61 1 e pacify, and therefore it is not surprizin°l"tit.l° fe el who are invidiously styled Mims shout %) t(' pd et alarmed at the return of such miscreants' 5 the lenity with which they are treated, 6-5, time when, doubtless, they are devising' n evi e t be pedienrs to subvert the Government, oPon f ( . 0 1 0 decease of the Monarch, arid pant for th e re- eel 11,05 e who might assist them in ReCtier3drig A to Revolution, and the restora t i on of thernsel e lily( the twitogement of the State. Bu ve ImPhey bowe ver the two Legislative Chambers , div i o m and wha tever 9 may have been constrncted , tare there may be of Jacobin plinciples a n /° . f their 11 them, will have too much ico, l ld to °‘ : ; ,l safety, if not to the welfare of titeic C"l' n ` rY. * t ► g t he tranquillity of Europe, to suffer s tr O,O thievous Plotters to gain any aicendllncy i'ver national Counsels. , / I.' Thon thre e (lenb, last e for .Qllet :tran s tleri 'ate 1 kVellt !lout Wi t t ) il le I hirh i txp t atom 0 latin i