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orent would c' with a very bad grace, an'i iu v et s / had taste from one who owed all whatsoever advantaoe he possessed to the existence of those miwtfactures—(Hear would now address bimself to the question then before the Eloise. nod he regretted very much that the subject had been mixed up 50 much with political mat ter. The more he heard that night, the more w3A be confirmed in the opinion which he entertained when he came into the House ; namely. that it. was utterly impossible to devise a remedy for the distress of the mann facrisrin4 districts. Indeed, whatever doubt • he tni:. , ht have had as to the propriety of in v, h e was no w convinced, by several of the sp , .eches which had been delivered that night, no possible good could result fron► an inqui-` ry, even if it did take place. The Right lion. tietolerunn proceeded to notice the several means of employing the poor, suggeited: by several of the G%-toletnen who spoke in the debate, and endea voured to show the difficulty and impolicy of car rying them into effect. lie had an utter objec tion to the mode of relieving the distresses of the poor by a public contribution. Such a plan of relief, amongst many other impolitic conse quences, would produce the effect of counteract - ing those checks which operated against an in creasing population, and which, he feared, would be found to be the only effectual remedy for the distresses of the Country. Under all • these circumstances, he could not vote for the motion. Mr. BARING and Mr. ELLICE explained. Mr. J. P. GRANT spoke in favour of the run fiOn. If there was no other reason for agreeing to the n;tiniry that+ to show the People that Par liament was sensible of their distress, he 01:Ingot fl o t !his was a soflkient one. The Ilan, Meuaber reviewed the causes of distress_ in the c,>ncttty, and he thought that if some a!tempt was not made 1,, cheek them, the cousequeoces most prove dread ful. Mr. T. SMITH SAid 11. f wqs not one of those et h o thntight th.n improvements in the means fvf idrtnring mater'iafs ere not generail' taltiow.glt the imtnedhite effect mi:.ht he tn throw ntapy per ,, ons ont empNlyiliellr lie was ex treinely sorry to find that Goverstnent refused inquiry. ms thus, thrre could he no hope of a re mk,dy for 'be admitted distn , sses of tht t'+orne dedociion front the burdens of the people ought to take place, and for his part he was ready to vote for any plan which could cenfine as much es possible the talLation to the rich. Mr. W. SMITH thought that it was highly improper to hold out to the sountry the notion that thc destruction tot maellinery would tend to remave distress. a policy was too short_ sighted to deserve consideration for a Mollieut convintcd as he was that be the removal of dis tress the sedition which w;ts existing in the conntry would yanit , lt like a morning dtearn. Mr J. SMITH and Mr. W. SMITH mutually ex plained. Mr. NIAFSPIPLD said, that it had been his mis fortune to wines% such cruel privations, Rod so notch severe suffeiing and distress amongst the rn,toutacturers in the pl.ee which he had the ho ilooe o represent, that it was with the most sin cere and deep re f ire! he felt himself bound to o p. pose the present motion for inquiry; but really, si.ch an active spirit of angry and p,ditic.Jl feeling pervaded the whole of the observations o f t h e Hon M , over, that he could expect no benefit to the poor sufferers from an inquiry't r nstititted under Sllf7ll circumstances. if the motion %vere tzTanted, it would be ral , er an l ucquiry int o political tanS OCiiol3S, Whieit the House laid already decidedly pe,gitived, whereas otigl,t to be an inquiry into the nature and extent o! the stifietings of ma. nutaetorers, and Ho attempt to devise stone re lief. for them Wiwnever a Committee fot this purpose (which he Ihought most desirable) was tuatle,. plainly and directly for that object, and !livested of political matter (which had nothing to do with ir), he should ertaiulv give it his feeble, hot most zealots support ; anti he sincerely hoped a very short time would elapse before such a mea sure was proposed to the 11 ()use. Lord ACCLIIBALD HAMILTON- had been witness _‘,F the most beart-rendiug scenes of distress among the people, and he reflected with surprise On the part Niinisters took in the present thseusSion. They did not hesitate to call upon the House to pass measures of severity and coercion against the people without allowing of any delay, whilst they 'refused to grant an inquiry into their grievances. Mr. DAVENPORT felt that there were so many ,considerations to be urged on both sides of the 'criestioo, that he had not as yet determined on which side he should vote. The distresses of the Country, he felt, required the most anxious atten tion, but he was afraid that the inquiry proposed by tr , e lion. Member embraced son many sultjects _to afford a hope that it would produce any bene ficial results. Mr. Trentia . Y said, that nothing like general argument had fallen from the Noble Lo:d, or any of his Colleagues, in answer to his 'Holt. Friend who had opened the +bate- His principal ob ject in rising was to defend the course pursued by his Hon. Friend in briuging forward the mo tion. And however it might be received in the House, he was convinced that the excellent mo tives which led to it would be duly appreciated by the country, and that if it were agreed to, it would lead to gear good. He cbuld not ap prove of an inquiry of the limited nature pro posed by the Noble Lord (Castlereagh). He end t►is Colleagues were alarmed at an exten sive investigation, because it would lead to the inference that they were responsible for a great part of the evils under which the country was labouring. The Ilitzht Honourable Gen tleman then censured the conduct of Govern ment in various particulars connected wish the disturbances of the country. We were held up to this country, and to the world, in the most pitiable 'situation of any nation on earth. For the first time it was affirmed, without fear of contradiction, that Noble Lord 3 had sold Largely out of our Ponds, to invest their property in the French Funds. But he thought that the fact, of which be had been well assured, that ,on,ll sums of 2 or 3001. were transferred from t!=is country to the same place was infinitely io-re alarming. It was represented that trade , aguated, that our capital was - flowing into THE SUN. SOLES QUIS DICER& FAI.SUM A UDEAT ? LONDON, FRIDAY, DECEMBER W, 1819. We reccived this nforning the Paris Papers of Monday and Tuesday last. Monday, the Chamber of Deputies again assembled, when M. BECQUEY made the expected Report from the sth Bureau, respecting the return of M. GREGolatt for the Department of l'lsere. As was some time since stated,•the point of validity turns Iron the article in the Constitutional Charter, which enacts, that at least half the number of Deputies for any De partment shall be chosen from amongst those per sons whose political domicile is in such Department. The Department of ('lsere returns 4 Deputies ; of the three existing before the election of M. Gee.. GOIRE, one was dOllliCiliatCd in another Depart mew, one in l'lsere, and a third, according to the opinion of the Bureau, had no political domicile in that Department. It became therefore in this way obligatory in the Electoral College to chose a fourth Deputy, who was domiciliated within the Department, and Gap:Goias not being so, his election was pronounced by the Com mittee to be null and void. So much noise and tumult from the different sides succeed ed this recommendation of the Bureau, that the President felt it necessary to recommend the Chamber, in pointed terms, to remain trim qnil, and to preserve that • dignity which ought to characterise their deliberations in the presence of France and of Europe. This, however, had but little effect, a contest aris ing reboot priority of speaking, which redoubled the tumult. The President put on his hat, but soon afterwards uncovered, and WRAVEZ was heard to order. This, however, was succeeded again by much disorder, arising from several Members wishing the question to be voted wit hoot discussion. The Baron 1 1 /oat/tan entreated the Chamber to hear those who were disposed to speak; his intreaty was of no avail. M. LAINE attempted to speak, but his voice was drowned in the tu mult. M. MANUEL shared the same fate. The President again put on his het, and suspend ed the Sitting for an hour. At the expira tion of the hour they again assembled, but the tumult was for a short time renewed. M. LAZNE at length obtained a .hearing, and the discussion proceeded.—We have no room to give even an outline of the debate ; the result was, that the Chamber, by an immense majority, rejected GREGOIRE, amidst shouts of " Vive le Hui," which resounded through tilt Saloon and the Public Trihunes. The scrutiny for Candidates for the PreSidency was post.poned till Tuesday. The MallliteSS DE LATOUX-MAUBOURG, the new Mioisttr of War, arrived at Paris on Sun day evening (not before, as stated), and on Mon day had a private audience of the KING. " Five P ER CENTS.—Monday, 68 f. 50 c." The chief business in the House of Commons last night related to Mr. BENNET'S Motion for an Inquiry into the present State of the Manu factoring Districts, an Inquiry so interesting and important, that, if the motion had been limited to its professed object, it would have had the snpport of Ministers. So many other topics - , however, were introduced by the Honourable Mover, that the Inquiry might have been expanded without end, and would have impeded discussions of es sential importance to the State. The Motion, therefore, was negatived without a division. — Another topic of considerable interest was intro duced. Mr. S. Woemev read some passages from a work imputed to Mr. Hoist-loose, the late Candidate for Westminster, of so offensive and daring a description, that Mr. COURTENAY sig nified his intention to bring forward a Motion on the subject this day. Mr. BROUGHAM attempted to dissuade the Member from such an intention, but much to the honour of the latter, he deter mined to persevere, and gave notice accordingly. If men of education and in respectable stations in society are permitted with impunity to libel the Representative Body, as well as the Government itself, not merely the Ministers, no wonder the RADICALS are likely to feel new incitements to Rebellion. We trust, therefore, that Mr. Count's- NAY will persevere, and that every friend to the Country in the House of Commons will resolutely take up the subject. Such is the Freedom of the Press which the Opposition have endeavoured to maintain !!—We yesterday gave a short account of the commencement of the Southwark Meeting, proceeding as far as the beginning of the speech of a Mr. BLACK. The Manchester business was of course brought forward, anal a Mr. HALL, who had, been employed to visit Man cheater, to inquire into that business on the spot, gave such an account of the horrors which had taken place, that the High Bailiff thought proper to stop him ; first, because be was not a resident Housekeeper in Southwark, and next, because his account was of so appalling a nature.—Mr. CALVERT expressed his wish that Mr. HALL had been snffered to proceed, and, after excusing his absence on former occasions, declared his desire of a Parliamentary Reform. — Sir RoseaT WILSON followed, and uttered one of the most inflmalmatory speeches that ever was ad dressed to a Public Meeting. We will not be accessary to the circulation of such a torrent of invectives against Government. Such Resolution- , were passed as might be expected at a Meeting where such Leaderspresided ; and, after T " 14 had been given to M r . C AL V ERT , Sir Re 3llll WILsoN, and the HIGH BAILIFF, the Mee tin hi g was dissolve!. This Meeting is stated, in r Morning Chronicle of to-day, as having heed ° l ' ducted with " the utm o st d eco r um , h a rmony, 0 "' , propriety." There were indeed no Radical ft or outrages, but there was as much Radical orb tory as could be heard in any place.—So much fa " decorum and propriety ;" and its harmony w°. le, (le ...__. ...... oW by no means surprising, as they all had tiicir way, and as no person could have presumed ti tr ter an objec►ion to any of the proceeding without incurring the danger of insult, violeoce or something worse. NOCTURNAL TR AIN I No.—We can assure t he Public, from good authority, that many of d Chelsea Pensioners who have been called in to examined whether or not they are fit for us e f ul service, were seized by the Radicals iu the (li r turbed Districts, and compelled to train them rebellious purposes, on pain of death. The po r men were, of course, obliged to comply, but` escaped on the first opportunity. No doubt s e ; veral of these military veterans are still detain e with the same treasonable views. Surely in 1041 a state of things the most vigorous measures o rv , necessary for .the general protection of Po' perty, and the very existence of the MoNAacH4' Cowes, DEC. 9. Arrived the Brilliooll YOUNG, from the Cape of Good Hope; 0 114 4lt October. On 11th Nov. spoke a ship on det i the tri- coloured flag, which asked the Or d' liant why site conkd not show her colours, vi be° the latter requested to know why the French Rey volutionary flag was flying, and a reply was !W ile' it was no concern of theirs. On the Brillo o rating they could not show any colours Wh ilSi that was flying, they were hauled down, 04 Spanish ensign hoisted. The schooner was AP ° 130 tons, and her deck was full of slaves. CORN-EXCHANGE, DEC. 10.—A very considerable qtran til of Wheat and Barley remained over from Wednesday's 54r ply, for which the demand was very trifling this m 0 0 4: and only prime samples of each could be got off, for witio. Wednesday's prices were obtained ; bat there was no ° a for the ordinary qualities, although offered on lower te' ll/1 Oats were also dull sale, but out cheaper ; in Pease Beans there is no alteration. SMITHFIELD MARKET.—There was but a middling WI:: of Cattle at Market this morning, and the prices remail l oie per -last Monday ; Mutton, Veal, and Pork, scarce ant ference in their prices.--Hay Market remains the 54112 6 per our last quotation; Straw and Clover no alteration. MADAme MARA.—This celebrated Sit ger, sr : , gether probably the best whoever appealed in O ff ' or any "'country, and who has been many ye ° abroad, bas, we understand, inst returned W ' Russia, and is now in town. According t o port her musical powers are still iu an admiral', state, as %yell as her general health. It is, h"" 0 ever, uncertain whether she will ever appear I public. ASHE, who presides over the Bath Co r , certs, with his usual alertness, immediately O a t , ed her an engagement, which, it seems, she b , clined, intending, if she performs again in 0 1 • lic, to commence her career in Hie metropoiis - the dispatches for Bombay ° r o t China, by the ship Thomas Colitis, were close' € the East India House, and delivered to the pol l of that ship. The following are passengers :•-• Major-General Sir Thomas Munro, K.C.B. (Gorerf o .f,,,& Madras) And Lady ; Major Charles He, vey Powell : Y", 4 C. 0. Aveline; Messrs. 3. IVheeler and W.Siruson, ‘t_., ote ol Mr. Ridden ; Messrs. G. Du Vernet, G. W. Gillis, W• G. Macau, and R. Mignan, Cadtts. Wedderburn, the black preacher, has been CI mitted to Newgate for a blaspionnous ex-officio information has been filed against hin t ' DREADFUL FIEII.—An alarming and deitrl five fi re broke out in Tiverton yesterday 0 0)/ ..t ing, between the hours of two and t h r ee._ commenced in a house at the entrance of B i r d lane, near the Turnpike Gate leading to PI, ter. Immediate assistance was procured, 40 fire engines drawn to the spot, but the 101.0 being coveted with thatch, although every ex cel ° . was made, nothing could withstand the violence P4lo the flames, and nine dwellings were entirely 0 snared. It is impossible to describe the constaiq. t ion and distress of file jioo families who %ref° driven from their beds, and, with scarcely 111 clothing on them obliged to expose themselves the inclemency of the weather, and some 11 8 : 1 0 , other resource hut to' jump from their winopq 1 ~_ T~ 1 .41\11 1146" , . to save their lives. We have to lament many accidents occurred, one poor wornansff particular, was so dreadfully burnt, that ;pi survived. only a few hours ; another, who le 6 d from her window, was very soon after delive r / f of a fi ne boy, and we are happy to bear. Itied they are both likely to do well. The fire is s i p , posed to have origioate'l from throwing ho t c o bi tiers under the stairs, which, we are sorry to c o) serve, is ton frequently the practice of poor P ple —(Exeter Flying Post, Dec. 8.) , AGAIN!!—HAzArtu and Co. have solo the drawn Prize of 520,000. —Thursday last, ( i0(1 6,656, the First-drawn Prize, entitled to .42 Money and Consols, was sold in Shales bY ZARD And CO., who also sold the First-dr:01 Prize of ,&20,000 on the first day of the Pre or° Lottery, No. 7,370. Tickets and Shares .01 selling for the Lottery to begin the 12ib by HAZARD and Co., Royal Exchange 5 , Corohill ; and 324, Oxford-street, Swallow-street. ... _ . - amninam5..........••••.•!..........".'".".- 6 r e LONDON: Printed by J. B. CARSTAIRS, of Nch,29'o'; !ll', Ornioud-street, Queen-square; and published ,P, SCRIPPS, of No. 7, South Nl o l ton - s t r eet, at Tai Office, No. 112, Strand ; wh , rit Adveitisemen ts t Letters, Ztq. (post-paid) must be alarcssed• 'The th e tit ti the *hien '':---. o. T~ /4 2 , 14 4„ Tu 'OEO, Aeeoii lftetit -kt;iit e i ) 441 e; 4 e for I s* Qi Il gets 1't1407 .~~ • t P r . u,ltoll %tx, MIS tts 'ri le It The Th e R R e It 411 e I T 1 14 411 1 1 e V • R R v s l / 4 , Arai kctn other chatine's, that there was a . disttess in our finances, and in public credit, and that blasphemy and ineligion (which he siii not believe), had overflowed the land; and all thi, was at triboted to a transition front war to peace, and the visitation of God.—(A laugh !) For the last 25 years, the Ministry had been go ing on train bad to worse, - while every year the House went on reposing greater confidence in them. Cot,ld they (heti be surprised, it people thought there was something wrong in the con struction of that House, and it - notated their cala mities, and the miserable degraded state of the nation, snore to the mischiefs and miscontlnct of mess, limn the visitation of Providence ? He slid not conceive how a stronger case for itaptiry could be made Out, than that established by his Hon. Fritmd —(Cheers !) Mr. WILFIERPWICV explained. Mr. CANNING declared, that be came down to the House determined to vote for the mo tion, tooter the impression that all questions of a political nature would have been avoided, anti that it would have been brought forward io the true spirit of a bona fide inquiry into the actual existing state of commercial distress, re ferable to commercial causes, and divested of all eoonexion with angry topics. But, would any one lay his band upon his heart and say this q u eFt i, m was introduced without political hos titity ? (Jr that all topics of art ioflammatory kind were not collected into it, in such a man ner as to kindle the animosities which ought to littv been laid aside. This mode of treat ing the subject rendeied it impossible for him to adhere to his first detetimination. The Honour able Gentleman was followed by his friend, his venerable Mentor, wi,o, instead of advising hint to common temperance and sobriety, pushed him two the flood, by whi;:h he was overW belated.— (Hear, hear !)—The snbjrct, unconnected with politics, pl e- emu! a v, ry Yt ide field o f ingi.iry. an d, in riveting into it, a / isk would be run, by exciting expectations which rota not but he defeated. He, however, would h,ve put a constraint upon his mvo judgmeot, had it not been for the violent ,yttet o of attack, and if political virulence had not interposrd, that had dragged into the question not only he feud and anitno•ities of Lancashire, the Orange Lodges of Li verpool,the interminable Old ham Intl/test; and the Tory principles of the Man chester, Magistrates, but the alleged ,conduct of Nliuist era for the last 25 years. The venerable Mentor was not couleur with tracing tine distress to its immediate root, but most recommend a Com mi, tee on the stale of the nation, the good old cause for turning out Ministers. The Right Houtitirable Gentleman (Mr. Canning) argued at sooie length against the practice of mixing up po litical sett:intents with subjects which could not he properly discussed without coolness and deli. iteration, qualities which are the reverse of those most conspicuous in the Honourable Mover and his Right Hon. Friend. Lord FOLKESTONE argued in favour of the Committee. Mr. iNkL, Mr. CANNING, and Mr. WILBER* FOfiCE exp!ailled. _ _ Mr. BKNNET shortly replied. He disclaimed a ll idea of introducing any politichl animosities upon Such an occasiou. 'l'l►e motion was then negatived without a di vision. BREACH OF PRIVILEGE. Mr. COURTNEY'astoII whether it reps the in• tentiou of the Hon. Nlember for Yorkshire (Mr. S. Wortley) to submit any motion to the House with re.peet to the pamphlet from which he bad quoted his speech Mr. S. Woe Te e ,/ replied, that be had merely quoted in proof of the argument %vhich be had beet; arivgncing. Alt% COURTNEY then stated, that he should !twee to-morrow upon the subject, as he consi dered the pamphlet contained a direct breach of the privileges of the House. Mr. BROUGHAM besought his Hon. Friend to reflect well befine he determined to submit any motion respectiog the liberty a the press, at such a time as the present. Mr. CouaTNEY persisted in his intention. The Training Prevention Bill was read the third time and passed. The Report of the Seditious Meetings' Bill was received, and the Bill ordered to be read a third time on Monday. Tie New paper Stamps' Bill was ordered to be read a third time on Tuesday. The Malt Duty Bill went through a Corn.' mittee.—lleport to-morrow.--Adjourned at Two o'Clock. THEATRICAL, REGISTEII. Performed Last Nigfit. TiltArßE Rol AL, i) U HY- LA NE.—Tlie Siege of Belgrade. .The Set:lst:ler, .tr. Brahma ; ',ilia, Miss Byrne. Atter which, High Nofunsi. Tit EAT HE ROYAL, kAiVF.NT-GARDEN.—The Clandestine Mar- Lord Ogleby, Mr. W. Farrell ; Miss Sterling, Mrs. After which, The Marriage of Figaio. PRICE OF 1 LICKS THI4 nAY AT I•WEI.'i te.CMICK. Bank 5t0ck....214i 2113 212 I Imp. 3 per Ccnt. Ann. .. G4l 3 per Cent. Red. linn,i India Bends. 31 per Cent 4 per Cents. - 831: b 3 Onininni Bank Long Ann. 171 5-16tIni Cm's. for Account 6G - 1; 67 GU; _.............. A untert,-1 France. Dust-2 Dublin. .2 'Waterford, .2 (.;nertotey anti Jersey, I Holland; I Malta, I Flanders. HIGH WATER A'!' LONDON BRIDGE TO•NIORKOW. Nlorniag, 31 minutes after S. Evening, 5.5 minute!. after S.