The Sun. — London, England, 1819-12-30 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, DEc. 29. NEW ,, PA PER STAMP-DUTIES BILL. The Earl of Ltaretteoot. moved the third reading of this Rill. Lord ERSKINE, WhO just entered the House as the qaesiion was about io be put, proceeded to oppose the Bill ; hut the greater part of his oh set vat erns, particularly at the commencement , ,were not distinctly heard below the bar. He was 0 , opinion, that the measure would not have the effect the Nohe Lords who had sup ported it expected from it. He regarded it as a 'very unnecessary encroartimeot on the liberty of tile press, and one which Could oat Nil to be felt as a great hataship by the whole printing trade of the country, in comet-pence of the severe and embartassing rest-aints it imposed. He partica lady objected to she clause revitiog recogni zanees, to which there was scarce any thing analogosts in the system of British law. In ge neral brtore reeognizaoces were required, some th ng had occurred, with regard to the behaviour of the party, which warranted the making such demand ; hot, according to this Bill, they were to be demanded before any crime was committed, or any ground existed for .suspicion. flow were many of sin ill property, under such circumstances, to find secutity, not against the commission of any known act, but agaiosi - something which no body could define? There was besides, no soth cient evidence to warrant the arioption of this measure. The ill !he preamble was not made out, and the grounds Ott tablets their Lind ships were called upon to pass the Bill were net supported by any investigation. He thet efote could not give it his vote. In tie mean tinte, he was of opinion that Ministers esfoold find it diffi• colt to execute the the :ray they expect ed ; and he should not be surprised to see a Bill breeeht in to explain Red emend it before the end of the Session. It bright he defeated by printing more sheets titan two, or by publishing monthly, instead of at a shorter period than 2G days. The Earl of LIvRUPOOL hail no dortht as to the operation of,the Bill having effect. Its effect as to the applica , ion of the stamp dories was ap plicable to publications sold at 64 or a less price in addition to the stamp. The object of this re gulation was, to check the circuhring of blas phemous and seditious libels--an evil which had grown up withio late years. The Nohle and L , arned Lord seemed to think that there was 'to thing auidogous in the lase of the conuttv to the part of the Bill which required reeognizatreas ; bat in this he apprehended the Nohle and Leen ed Lord was t4rcarly tu,staken. There were many cases in which secusities were required, in which there was no pretence for supposing that the party of whom they were demanded had committed any improper act. No publican, for instance, could commence hosineas without giving sureties for his good conduct. There were many pursuits ^ which were so liable to abuse from the nature of the case, that it was proper the persons engaged in them should oiled upon to give some seen rity for regular and proper cOuduct. The guys tint) then for their Lordship-s to consider w,s, whether Oleic had not been such a degree 01 abuse with regard to cheap pablicatious, as af forded a reasonable greund for asking security from the persons who put them forth. This clause could by no means be considered as an op pressiou on the respectable persons connected with the higher branches of the periodical press, or tile bookselling trade, to whom the demand could occasion no y or embatrassment. LOH! ELLENBORMIGH supported the Bill, which intix►sed no restraint on t it discussion, but ►ras directed against a pauper press, from which the greatest mischief was to be apprehended. He differed with his Noble and Learned Friend with regard to the fitness of the Ball to meet the dan ger. Their Lordships would not do justice to the country it they did not pa s s this measure, for the conduct of that press which it was destined to cor rect had formed a great part of the evil of which the public had to complain. That press did not dare to tell the truth, because those who managed it wrote solely for profit. It there foie did not attempt to direct, but constantly followed the varying opinion of the e , ver chang ing mob, studying to fl a tter th e i r prejudices and minister to their passions. His Noble and Learned friend, who might be regarded as the patron of the press, still contended that there was no ground for passing the Bill, because the publications com plained of could be opposed and written down by others ; but if he considered the real state of the case, he would find that very difficult. The cheap ness of these publications rendered it impossible to undersell them : and as they "had already pro duced so much mischief, the evil must necessarily be greatly increased before they could be written down. From the period of Hone's acquittal to the conviction of Carlile, the press, from which these mischievous publications issued, bad gone on without any control, or any apprehension of punishment. He was aware that an important question here arose, namely—whether the lower orders ought to be deprived of a political press ; but into that he did not further enter than to express his opinion against their political reading, which he thought could be of no use to them. The country conid derive no bent fit from philosophers front the loom, or statesmen from spinning-jennies. Be sides, the kind of reading which publications such as had lately been so widely circulated afforded, tended to destroy the hopes of that moral improve mew which it was of the greatest importance to promote among the lower orders of the people.— He therefore gave his warm support to the Bill, because he was convinced, that on the moral int- provement of ►he people depended, not only their own happiness, but the prosperity and true great- ness of the State. The Bill %vas then read a third time and passed. Adjourned. It is understood in the military circles, that Lieutenant-General Sir ALEXANDER CAMPBELL, is destined to take the command of the iinops on the Madras station, in place of Sir TH:IMAS HISLOP, who is on his way home. Sir I,EX A Nnutt will probably sail early in the ensu ing spring. PARLIAMENTARY PAPERS. A RILL to PREVENT UNSKILFUL PERSONS from PRACTISING as CONVEYANCERS. Whereas inconveniences are found to arise from the want of legal knowledge in many Persona, who take upon themselves to practise as Cons -, ancers of teal estates and chattels real ; For the prevention thereof, be it enacted by the Kiti,4's Most Excellent Majesty, by antrwitie the advice and consent of the Lotds Spiritual and Temporal, and Commons, in Parliament assem bled, and by and with the authority of the same, That it shall not be I wild from and after for any person within England or Wales, to prtctise as a Conveyancer in the draw ing or preparing any deeds or other instruments, for the granting, settling, or transferring of any real estate of chattels real, to take effect in the lifetime of any party granting, settlin g , or trans ferring the saute, todes3 such person shall be a Setjeaut at Law, Barrister, admitted Solicitor, Attorney, or Proctor, having obtained regular certificates.to practise as such, or shalt have been a Pupil for the term of two years in the office of saute Serjeant or Barrister at Law engaged in the practice of Conveyancing, and have kept at least eight terms in some or one of the four Inns of Courts ; and that if any pet son shall after the , itue aforesaid practise as such Conveyancer in manner afore.iaid, contrary to the true intent and meaning of this Act,. every such person shall for fe;t nod pay for each offence the sum of pounds. Pro%ided always, and be it further enacted, That (wilting in this Act contained shall extend, or he construed to extend, to prevent any person Iron; drawing or preparing any deeds or tither instruments, for the granting, settling, or trans any real estates or chattels real aforesaid, who on the shall bone fide he carry ing on the hosiness, and b e estoblistied and in the way at pitting his livelihood in the profession of 4 Conveyancer, in the drawing or purpling of deeds or other instroments, fur the granting, set tling, or transferring of real estates or chattels real ; or to prevent any person who is or shall be appointed Steward of any manor, lands, tene• meats,' or - hereditameots. from drawing or pre• paring any lease or leases of any such manor, lands, tenetateots,.or hei•editamvuts, of or belong ing to the person by whom he shall be so ap pointed. And be it further enacted, That from and after if any persou authosited to draw and prepare deeds or other instruments, for the granting, settling, or trat:tening of real estates 1111,1 chattels real, shall permit or suffer his name to he in *toy manner !lard by or for the profit of any person not qualified to thaw or prenale the saute, or shall permit or suffer any unqualified • ilerSoll or persons to participate or share in the ftii•s or profi!s arising front the drawing or pi of any suet. deeds or other instruments,' every persoo so idettding shall forfeit and pay for each offence the sum of pounds. And be it further enacted, That all fines, pe nalties, and forfeitures, Imposed or created by this Act, may be recovered, with costs of suit, by any person who shall site for 'he same, by action of debt , bill, plaitif or information, in any of his Majesty's superior Courts .1' Recora at West ster, or in the Courts of Great Sessions its Wales, in Icl,ich no essoign, protection, wager of law, nor inure than one importance shall be allowed. MALT. ACCOUNT of the TOTAL AMOUNT of the DUTY on the STOCK. of MALT in HAND, payable in Great Bri tain under an Act of the Last Session of Parliament; to gether with the Dates of the several Payments which will be due thereupon ;—Su far as relates to England. 1011 t Nov. 1819 i.:83,815 3 6 10th ,tam. 1820 8.3,815 3 6 Dates of the several Payments loth Feb. 1820 118,460 4 8 10th Apra 1820 1 18,460 4 8 Total amount ,C414,610 16 4 NotQ— The above Payments will he made to the Receiver General of the Excise, as under;— London :—lmmediately as they become duo; viz.:— L. 8,104 It 3 loth NoVember, 1819, 8,104 11 3 loth January, 1820. 10,804 I 8 10th February, 1820. 10,806 1 S lOtli April, Its2o Country:—The Payments will be received by the Collectors as follow— Due Nov. 10, 1819—L.80,740 12 3—between 13th Dec. 1819 and 2d January, 1820. Due Jan. 10, 1820.. L. 80,740 12 3.. bet wren 2411 i January and 14th Feb. 1820 Due Feb. 10, 1820 L. 107,654 3 0.. between 30th March and 24 April, 1820. DueApr . lllo,lBllo L. 107,654 3 o..between 24th April arid I•ith May, 1820. And the Cash will in course be reu►itted as soon as received by the Collectors, by bills at the usual dates. On Friday last, Charles Whitworth. the Chair man of the Birmingham Uuiuu Society, was ap prehended on tire charge of pithlishiug a seditious and inflammatory' address " To the People of England, %Vales, Scotland,' and Ireland," which was placarded on the walls of the town, on the morning of the 14th inst., the day on %%11;0 the news of a disturbance at Manchester, if any had occurred, would have reached this place. On Tuesday last he was bailed (or his, appearance at the Sessions by Wm. Davis, of Weaman-street, pearl button mitker, and Wm. Cox, of Bradford street, brass founder ; himself in 2001. and iris bail in 1001. each.—This is the second case of se dition brought under the cognizance of the Ma gistrates within the last month ; and it affords us oeat satisfaction, as we' are sure it will every friend of social order and the Constitution, to know that the determination and the means now exist to put a stop to the torrent of blasphemy and sedition with which this town has been so long inundated.—(Birmingham Chronicle.) WHALE. FISHENY.—It appears by an account of the oil produced by the ships employed in the Greenland and Davis' Straits Whale Fisheries from the Port of Hull, in the year 1818. that it amounted to 5274 tons, viz.-35 ships from Greenland, 2632; 27 ditto, from Davis' Straits, 2642. FOR THE SUN. INSOLVENT BILL. MR. EDITOR—If your " Old Correspondent from the Temple " will condescend again to read my Letter on the subject ot the Insolvent Act, he will find rittt he has argued against what I never • ad.-winced. Na t'Nl not propose thallbtors shoull? be confined unlit they p a y certain tvidends, but that they should be permitted to commence pro ceedings for release at certain periods, in propor tion to the dividends they might have to offer.— The effect would certainly be to lengthen the imprisonment, in proportion to the diminution of dividends ; but in recommending this, which is very different from what your " Old Correspond ent " imputes to me, my objects were, in the first place, to induce people in debt not to waste their means improvidently before arrest ; and, in the second place, to induce them to make the earliest offer in their power, instead of remaining in prison until their means are expended. In my first Letter I merely threw out a few hints—it was impossible to examine each in all its bearings in half a column of a Newspaper ; but, foreseeing an objection which your Correspondent may start, I will now add that the offer may be made as early as possible, though the term of its efficiency may be prolonged on the proposed scale. In doing this, the Debtor most specify the particular assets which he may have to offer, which will be a check upon improvident expenditure in the interim ; still leaving it open to the Creditors to consent to speedier proceedings—an arrangement, which will operate as a check upon those whose pride it often seems to be to insult and to defy those to whom they have unfairly become indebted. That such a proceeding would, in the first in stance, fill all our prisons, I have already admit ted ; but that it would continue to do so, is merely a difference of opinion between your old Corres pondent and myself, which must remain to be de cided by the event. The intention of the plan is, in short, to give the honest debtor a fair chance with his creditors if they are reasonable, to res cue him from them it they are unreasonable, anti to form a more efficient check upon the debtor who is tho ughtless or dishonest. That individual cases, even ot extreme hardship, might arise from the plan, is certainly possible ; but I believe there is no general regulation in existence to which the sante objection may not be m.ole. Yet, even in these individual cases, the proposed Trial by Jury may avail much. Your's, IGNOTUS. FOR THE SUN. LETTER, 111. MR. EptTost—lt would certainly be more agreeable for a HRRMIT to amuse himself with listening to a Play instead of a Debate, and cri ticizing actors or audiences, and lamenting the great changes since the great Mr. GAttatcx's time, instead' of venturing among the " brevia et syrtes" of politics ; but Radicalism, Sedition, and Blas phemy have so completely occupied the minds of men both in town and country, that the criti cisms of a JOUNSON or an ADDISON would not at this moment be attended to. Since I last ad dressed you, I have frequently visited the assem bly which I spoke of, and also another assembly of a similar nature, and I have heard much aro merit and more opinion as to the right and wrong concerning these Bills which have galloped over the ground Newmarket-pace, It seems agreed, that there has been, and that there still is, some danger, and a great deal of fear, but our fears ought not to prevent us from enquiring into the causes of our difficulties; and having enquired and ascertained, we ought to endeavour, " like skil ful Surgeons to cut beneath the wound to make the cure complete." Great care also must be taken to cicatrize the wound to prevent the ap pearance of a scar. All Politicians and Statesmen must agree, that there should not exist a body of disposable Radi cals ready to march to Manchester, Birmingham, Liverpool or Bristol, as directed by Hoar or THlsmEwooo. If such a practice was not put down by Parliament, we should soon have a Pe tition for Flying Radical Waggons, to prevent the wearing out " of these poor men's shoes," arid if a sum was not granted by the House of Com mons, it would be called the most corruptedest House, and the People the most non-represented estyeople in the whole world. However the Bills have now nearly all gal loped into Laws and vets❑s Law, lIERNIT will not contend or argue, but we may suppose, that, as before the Recess the Opposition Pack have ,had a sharp burst at tthe Home, so after the Re. cess they will probably have a rattling run at the Exchequer. During the Recess, Ego of Marylebonne will venture to enliven myself at a Play without any fear of being blown up, though with some expec tation of being bored ; and with your leave, Mr. Editor, I will give yon some of my ideas as to Actors and Audiences, and set them up a glass to view their precious selves in. Wishing you and your Readers a merry Christmas, I now say, " Remember me !" HERMIT OF MARYLEBONNE. Dec. 24, 1819. The public and p►ivate property of Prince PAUL of Wurtemberg has been for a long period se yoestrated by order of the KING, his brother.— Hi, Royal Highness has received intelligence that this measure had been reversed. He has likewise received a letter of convocation to attend the opening of the States in his tputlity of Heir Pre sumptive to the Crown on the 15th of January, 1820. THEATRICAL REGISTER. Performed Last Night. TUSATRE ROYAL, DRURY- LAN E.—The Siege of Belgrade : • The Seraskier, Mr. Braliatu ; Lilla, Miss Byrne. Aft er which, Jack and the Bean Stalk. THEATRE ROYAL, COVEMX-GA RDEN.—Mary tuart : Earl of Leicester, Mr. Macready; Elizabeth, Mrs. ury.,Aftsik*. which, Harlequin and Dyi Quixote. • Vflaa. fAt:'.l6lStli %ee the rag . Par, PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT TWELVE o'ci,ocK„ 3 per Cent. Red...... 674 M India Bonds .. Is. Qs. dis. Pa r 31 pur Cent. 4 per Cents. EAU Ditto Commercial .... 365. it Bank Lung Ann. 17 7-Itiths I Cons, for Account.... litiffil MAILS. ARRiven-1 Gottenburgh, 3 Hamburgb. Due-2 Guernsey and Jersey, 1 France. HIGH WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE TO.MORROW -I,lorning, 7 minutes after 2. J Evening,33lllltCS after g' THE SUN. SOLEM QUI MCERE FALSUAI Ain't:AT ? LON DON, THURSDAY, DECEMBER3O, 1819. '!'he Paris Papers of Munday last, which were due this morning, have not arrived. Bermuda Papers arrived this morning to the end of November;• they do not bring any news. —Caragoa Papers are also arrived to the 20th of November ; there had not been any arrivals from the Spank!' Main. It it observed in The Morning Chronicle o f t his day, in reference to the New Stamp Duties Bills which, passed the House of Lords yesterday, and nhich Kith the Blasphemous and Seditious Libels Bill, will receive the Royal Assent by Commission this day, that " these are the last of the series of formidable measures proposed by the Mini.* 'tent, for the purpose of meeting the alleged dangers of our situation." What there is ; formidable in these measures to wise and honest men we cannot conceive, nor, we believe, will wise and honest men think that they were 001 " alleged dangers" which threatened us.—We are as fully sensible of the value of a free Preis as any of our Competitors, but it is evident that the Press ought not to indulge in such freedom as may endanger the safety of the State, and turn into ridicule the Religious faith of the People. That the measures will be formidable to the ene mies of the Constitution in Church and State can' not be doubted, but they will be advantageous to themselves, for they will now be prevented trans, involving themselves in ruin, and by turning their attention to useful pursuits become harmless , at least, if not respectable ; and for all laudable purposes the Press remAins as free as it ever west or can be necessary consistently with the welfare and security of the Empire. CORBETT AND WooLEK.—These congenial Pe liticians are, it seems, about to become - Rival' , as they are both going to start a Daily will be curious to note their progress from amiti to hostile competition. But as the trew measure'• for the protection of the Country will induce both of them to be wary, nothing can be eV pected from either but hackneyed trash, as their sting is blunted, and as the Arras' WRY-GENERAL will, of course, keep a rigiJ watch over men whose pens art only to b e re• strained by the strong hand of the law. We ar e reproached in a Morning Paper for having insert' ed a paragraph stating the punishment of Libeller* ,in the reign of CHARLI3I the First. We did 0 for no other purpose than to make the Libellers of the present day sensible of the comparativ e mildness of the present Government, though w e confess that we think modern Libellers d e serv e punishment much more than the person whos e guilt is there recorded, though we never wish r d see our penal jurisprudence marked With so mid severity, Yesterday the Earl of CATticatur had a long audience of the PRINCE? REGENT, at Carl ol House, on his return from his embassy to Ilussi; Yesterday Lord MeLvii.La held a L evee . at Admiralty. The Duke of YORK came to town on Mund 4 l evening, from Oat lands. On Tuesday his Re i Highness held a Levee at his office in the 1 - I° li° Guards. te Yesterday Sir HENRY HALFORD left town to - tend on the KING, at Windsor. On Tuesday Prince LooPoLD l e f t Claren , - , a tiC on a visit to the Earl of DARNLEY, at his SO( Kent. Lord MELvti.t.ig gave a grand Cabinet Dill° et yesterday, at his residencelst the Admiralty. Mrs. FITZHERBERT and Miss SEYMOUR are 65' pected from Paris in March next. No orders are yet received from the Prince!: of WALES respecting the state harness execu lc , for her Royal Highness in the autumn of the p re tent year. The anival of many of the Mail Coaches - v ° town yesterday, was greatly retarded by the stO ir ‘ , sshich has fallen many parts of the Cowi t h and paricnlarly in the West.—The Exetrr 3 " 1 11 Coach did not arrive at the Gener a l Post atice Nall-past two. a , SOfla Po al fit) Oil 101 W nra IV pia Vo :UN - ger ten 80, imi vrel €Ol lot. tba I tzl to tcst 1101, par ft.rr iv& rem it tc Itnal Si•I0 pot► Witl PEN Etta ineu SCITS wor con; of it Lit y ump he rigt, 411 11 seve of ti bar with ;lien it yr rod! creel thou (pod Lew i[lt fr (pr:i plact Call in th there rigl~r such edific obje4 Star, Ot routs every isiol let Li