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The Queen held a Levee yesterday afternoon at St. James's Palace. Her Majesty and Prince Albert, accompanied by his Serene Highness the Prince of Leiningen, arrived fenm Beek inssham Palace shortly before two o'clock with the usual escort. The Royal Suite followed and included the Countess of Mount Edgcumbe and the Duchess of Bedford, Ladies in Waiting; Earl of Listowel, Lord in Waiting; Lord George Lennox, Gentleman in Waiting on Prince Albert; Sir Frederick Stovin, Groom in Waiting ; Captain Francis Seymour, Groom to Prince Albert; Lord Alfred Paget, Equerry in Waiting; Colonel Bouverie, Equerry to Prince Albert; Masters Chiches • ter, ldyng, and Wilson, Pages of Hono urinWait ing on the Queen. Her 'Majesty and his Royal Highness were received on their arrival by the Lord Chamberlain and the Lord Steward, and by the Groom of the Stole to Prince Albert. His Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge, attended by Major Stephens, was present at the Levee. At the Levee the Foreign Ambassadors and Ministers were received in a Diplomatic circle, before the general circle corn , naenced. The Foreign Diplomatic circle, conducted by the Master of •` the Ceremonies, consisted of the Austrian Ambassador, Peron Koller, First Secretary of the Embassy, and Baron de Nieu- Mann, the Austrian Special Minister; the Prussian Minister; the Swedish Minister ; the Belgian Minister and M. de Woestyn, Attache to the Legation ; the Danish Minister ; the Bavarian Minister; the United States Minister and Mr. Ben • , janain Rush, Secretary of Legation ; the Sardinian Minister ; the Portuguese Minister and AI. Lobo de Moira ' Secretary of • Legation ; the Grecian Minister; the Russian Minister ; the Brazilian Minister and 31. de Paiva, Attache to the Legation ; the Hanoverian Minister; the Spanish Minister and le Che 't • valier de Florer Secretary of Legation ; the Saxon Minister ; • , Prince de Castelcicala, Sicilian Envoy, on a special mi , sion, and M. J. Canofari, Secretary of Legation ; Mr. Murphy, Charge d'Affaires, and Mr. B. Muriel, Attache to the Le gation ; Baron de Eourqueney, French Charge d'Affaires. The following presentation took place : The Count de Villanu , va, Attache to the Legation of her Catholic Majesty. by General Alava, the Spanish Minister. The general circle was attended by the Bishop of London, ':. the Lord Chancellor, the Lord President, the Lord Privy Seal, • the First Lord of the Treasury, the Secretaries cf State for the Home, Foreign, and Colonial Departments, the First Lord of the Admiralty, the First Commissioner of the Woods and Fo rests, the Secretary at War, the Lord Steward, the Lord Chamberlain, the Captain of the Honourable Corps of Gen tlemen at Arms, the Captain of the Yeomen Guard; Lord Hill, Gold Stick in Waiting ; the Groom of the Stole to Prince Albert, the Vice-Chancellor, the Vice . Chamberlain, the Treasurer of the Household, the Marquis of Huntly, A.D.O to the Queen ; Mr. Henry Robinson, Standard-bearer to the Honourable Corps of Gen , tlemen-at- Arms • the Master of the Ceremonies ; Rev. Dr. Short, Depnty Clerk of the Closet ; Sir Benjamin C. Bro.'ie, ~.. Bart., Sergeant Surgeon ; Mr. George Hayter, M. A. Painter of History and Portraits to her Majesty ; Colonel Sir Adolphus Dalrymple, A.D.C. to the Queen; Colonel Richard son, Royal Horse Guards, Silver Stick in Waitin g; Mr J. Bunco Curling, Clerk of the Cheque of the Honourable . Corps of Gentlemen-at-Arms ; Mr. Ellerthorp, Clerk of the Cheque of the Yeomen Guard; Captain Seymour Sadler, Exon in Waiting ; Captain Pechell, R.N., Equerry to her Majesty the Queen Dowager • Major Stephens, Equerry in Waiting to his Itiayal Highness the Duke of Cambridge ; the Solicitor-Gene ral to the Queen Dowager, Sir Benjamin Smith, Lieut.-Col. His, Groom of the Privy Chamber in Waiting ; Colonel Godwin, Gentleman Usher to Prince Albert in Waiting ; Col. Shawe, Coldstream Guards, Field-officer in Brigade Waiting. Mr. Justice Wightman was presented to her Majesty, by the Lord Chancellor, on being appointed one of the Judges of her Majesty's Court of Queen's Bench. Sir John Hobhouse presented Addresses of Congratulation on the birth of the Princess Royal, from inhabitants of Madras and Bombay. Sir Robert Ker Porter, K. C. H. her Majesty's Charge d'Affaires to the• Republic of Venezuela, was presented, on his return to England, by Viscount Palmerston. Colonel Sir George Arthur was presented, on his return from Canada, by Lord John Russell. The Hon. Mr. Bloomfield was presented, to take leave, on his return to St. Petershurgh. Lieut.-Colonel T. Noel Harris was presented to her Majesty by the Marquis of Normanby. DUKE—Argyll. MareQuises—Huntly, Headfort, Salisbury, Ely, Ailesbury, Camden. EARLS—Antrim, Liverpool, Powis, Winchilsea and Not tingham, Lincoln, Aberdeen, Longford, Cawdor, Stanhope, Somers, Sandwich, Wicklow, Jermyn, Brownlow, Lucan, De Grey, Cowper, Haddington. VISCOUNTS—Lifford, Melville, Duncan, Drumlanrig, North land, Clements, Eastnor, Templetown, Lake. LORDS Byron, Dinorben, Teignmouth. Walsingham, Sondes, Charles Russell, Clifford, Bloomfield, Worsley, F. Beauclerk, D. D., Ellenborough, Kinnaird, Sherborne, Haddo, Rep esbury, M. Hill,Stay ordal e, Cremorne, Bridport, G. Quin, G. Paget, Wenlock, E. Howard, A. Loftus, Burg hersh, C. Clinton, W. d'Eresby, Kilmaine, Poltimore. A RCH lust-for—Armagh. Bisnoes—Llandaff, Winchester. Hereford, Rochester. RIGHT HONOURABLES—E. Ellice, S. Browne, Sir R. Adair, Sir J. Beckett, Joseph Littledale. HONOURABLES—Mr. Clifford, Charles Cavendish, Hugh Fortescue, Francis Charteris, Charles Noel, Henry Lyttleton Powys, General Sir H. Pakenham, 0. Duncombe, Robert Curzon, jun., G. Browne, Lieutenant-Colonel Scarlett. B. Lawley, Bev. R. Cost, R. Curzon, Captain Liddell, E. Fane. 13witoat ea's—Richard Bulkeley Philiuis, 31. P., James Clark, Benjamin Brodie, T. C. Style, Edward Knatchbull, W. W. Wynne, E Lacon, J. J. Buxton, G. Staunton. Stes—Frederick Pollock, M.P., A. Foster, B. Chichester, M.P., Hodgson, William Simonds, R. Hill, W. H. Pearson, G. Wilkinson, J. Eyre, J. Douglas, Robert Ferguson, J. - Whatley, W. Gusset, Troubridge. ARCIIDEA cos—Austin. RI M DOCTORS—WesIey, Hook, Symons, Ralph, J. R. Brown, D'Oyley, Paterson. REV. MESSIEURS—CharIes Wodsworth, A.M., William Edwardes, Alexander Munro, J. W. Yates, George Hulme, C. F. Buchan, John Gardner, Peter awers, J. Park, •A. 1 IVPLean, Edward Thompson, A. Murdoch, J. Watson, W. Grant, A. Rennisson, G. Crichton, H. Campbell, G. Bythesea. Docroes—Robert Williams, Henry Lee, Clarke. Messieues—Henry Charles Hoare, Henry Mills, Lawrence s: : Shadwell, John Paynter, Sanderson, M.P., Sanford, Greece, • Thl.P. Balfour, George James Williamson, E ger t on , C. B ruce , H. Alexander, Trelawney, J. H. Parks, W. H. Lyttelton, \J. V. Harcourt, W. T. Egerton, Pulman, Fitzroy, G. P. Bushe, ,J. Hoinfray, Archibald, M.P., V. H. Foster, H. F. Leteltiteirth - , J. Morley, G. May, H. Pierrepont, J. Haydon, 'East, M.P., Wilshere, M.P., Meek, Dickinson, VT' Dawson, Travers, 'Wyndham, M.P., Bagot, Ewer, E. Walker, W. 'Childers, 31. Morrtgomerie, Challoner, C. L. Kirwan, Hors- Man, M.P., Houstoun, Carleton, Campell of Islay, Pentland, , 117. 31Ielville, Merriman, Beauclerk, Pickford, M. O'Conr.ell, 111. p., W. Cavendish, Pinney, M.P., H. F. Parks, A. * White, M.P., J. N. Merriman, E. Heneage, Fleming, M.P., Hardy, S. Flood, S. Baker, N. Alexander, M.P., Wray, Borges, W. Cowper, C. Bruce, M.P., M. O'Ferrall, Palmer, G. A. 31uskett, M.P., Blandy, R. White, H. Robinson, • You ng , M.P., J. Holton, T. Boyd, Eyre, C. Cowan, Mar ton, M.P., Berkeley, W. Hughes, jun., W. Wilson, C. Ver tire, G. Bythesea. FIELD MARSHAL—Duke of Wellington. GENERALS—Sir Edward Bowater, Right Hon. Sir James Kempf, Sir Charles Egerton, Wilson, Reeve, Sir W. H. Clin ton, Sir F. Trench, Bonham, Sir T. Montresor, Evatt, Sir R. Macfarlane, G. Michell, Sir T. Whitehead, Cartwright, Sir F. Muleaster, Sir H. King, Sir G. Adams, Sir W. Eus tace, Sir G. Dickson, Lord Strafford, Sir T. Reynell, Sir 31. Disnv. COLONELS—M‘DouaII, E. S. Neale, Grey, Gurwood, Mac donald, O'Malley, Elwood, Money, Connolly, M.P., Austin, .T. N. Harris, Hon. 11. Dundas, Churchill, C. 8., North, Enollys, G. Upton, Sir H. Townshend, Stanley. MAJORS Weymouth, Hallifax, Trevelyan, Robertson, Cockburn, Burnside, Bloomfield. CAPTAINS—Vivian, Locke, Ainslie, A. Smith, P. Lancey, terners, F. Hepburn, A. C. Sterling, G. Clarkson, J. B. Bellasis, R. Shawe, Teesdale. O'Malley, E. Boxer, Gibbons, Crombie, Dalrymple. Macdonald, Hawkes, M.P., Newman, liolcombe, Temple, Forrest. LIEUTENANTS—G. Jenkinson, Spence, Gilbert, Douglas, Nevile, W. J. Eastwick, Lennox, Holbeck, Hay, W. O'Grady, Hitchins, Hudson, Eliot, C. Mayne, Holdsworth, Hume, G. Hicks, G. Austen, Aldridge, Ward, De Havil land, Pakenham, J. Harris, De Winton, H. Drummond, De Bathe, Forrest. SECOND LIEUTENANTS—IIreedOII, W. Grenfell. S UB -LIEUTENANTS—Lucas, Langley, Hon. C. Maud e . CORNET—F. D. Gray. ENSIGN—G. C. Urmston. ADMIRALS—Sir Phillip H. C. Durham, G. C. 8., Skipsey, Sir C. Adam, Sir T. Briggs, Sir E. Brace, Sir W. Parker, Sir C. Malcolm, Sir H. Pigot, Sir J. West. CAPTAINS—Hon. Frederick Pelham, S. Dacres, F. Hui.- le e k, 0. Harcourt, H. H. Spence, G. Hathorn, Brace, Pee hill, Fisher, Sir T. Thompson, Lushington, L. T. Jones. COMMA NDERS—Jerningham, Bosariquet, E. Ommanney, ruttier, Washington, Barton, T. Stuart, H. Stroud, Glan ville, W. Whish, R. Douglas. LIEUTENANT—OIdmixon. The following Noblemen and Gentlemen had the honour of being presented to her Majesty:— The Marquis Camden, on succeeding to his title, by the Bishop of Rochester Earl Somers, upon coming to the title, by Lord Stuart de Rothesay Viscount Eastnor, by Earl Somers Viscount Drumlanrig, by the Marquis of Queensberry Lord Haddo, on his marriage, by the Earl of Aberdeen Hon. Henry Lyttleton Powys, 60th Royal Rifles, by his Royal High, ess the Duke of Cambridge H o n . .. Mr. afford, on his coming of age, by his father, Lord The Hon. Robert Curzon, jun., on returning from abroad, by his father, the Hon. Robert Curzon Hen. Ernest Fane, on his appointrrent to the Rifle Brigade, by Lord Burghersh Sir Jolla Jacob Buxton, Bart., High Sheriff of Norfolk, on succeeding to his title, by the Marquis of Ailesbury 'Sir Joseph Littledale, by the Lord Chancellor Sir Robert Ferguson, on being appointed Lieutenant of Lon donderry, by Lord Morpeth A se isdeaciM Austin, of British Guiana, by the Bishop of • Lls3daff :4 M r, J o hn Paynter, by his uncle, Rear-Admiral Skipsey Mr. Lawrence Shadwull, on being appointed Ensign 9Sth Regiment, by the ~V ice-Chancellor. Mr. Henry' es I‘ll by Sir B 1 en Smith Rev. Charl Wodsworth, A . M., Prebendary o f S t . P a u l 's Vicar of H ar di ngs t c ne, by the Lord Bishop Cathedral, and of Peterborough The Rev. William Edwardes, by Sir Richard Bulkeley Phi lips, Bart., M. P. Dr. Robert Williams. by Sir Frederick Pollock Mr. Isaac Morley, Mayor of Doncaster, by the Marquis of Normanby Mr. Vere Henry Foster, by his father, the Right Hon. Sir Augustus Foster, Bart. Mr. G. Parker Bushe, Attache to her Majesty's Legation at Hanover, on his a ppointment, by Visco unt P almerston Mr. J. Hamilton Parks, by Lord Aluskerry M r . W. H. Lyttelton, by Lord Lyttelton Mr. George James Williamson, by Lord Dinorben Mr. Trelawny, on his appointment as Deputy Lieut. for Cornwall, and Captain of her Majesty's Royal Rangers, by .Sir H. Vivian Mr. Balfour on his marriage, by Earl Cawdor Rev. li.7.dward Thompson, A.M. Minister of Charlotte Chapel, Pimlico, by Lord Teignmouth Dr. Clarke, by Sir James Eyre M r . Ewer, by Sir J. C. Hobhouse Mr. C. L. 'Um-an, D.P. L., by the Earl of Lucan. Major Waymmith, on promotion, by the Marquis of Headfort Captain Vivian, Prince Albert's hussars, on his marriage, by Sir Hussey Vivian Mr. Henry Federick Tiarks, Consul-General for his Royal Highness the Grand Duke of Oldenburg, by Major-General Sir Henry King M. Nathaniel Alexander, M.P., by Sir Robert Ferguson, ee •rt M P ...a. • • • V t. h'enry Robinson, 60th Royal Rifles, by his Royal High . ess t ;te Duke of Cambridge Mr ; miles Hultin, of Trimly College Cambridge, on going by General George Michell. Mr. au ste s on, late her Majesty's 13th Light Infantry, by Ni . orro . or. .• Sir James gr. G. C. G. e illtiresea, 80th Regiment, by his father, Rev. - , George Bythesea 1 pinorben 'Colonel'ColonelGrey, by Lars. Lieut.-Col. E. St. John Neale, her Majesty's Vice-Consul at Alexandretta, upon his departure for Syria, by Lord Pal merston Colonel honey, on his marriage, by Gen. George Michell Lieut.-Colonel. the Hon. Henry Dundas, 83d Regiment, on his appointment to be a Companion of the Bath, and on re turn from foreign service, by Viscount Melville Lieut.-Colonel T. Noel Harris, by the Marquis of Normanhy Lieut.-Colonel G. F. Upton, 62d Regiment, by Viscount Templetown Lieut.-Colonel Stanley, Grenadier Guards, by Col, Shawe Captain Hon. Frederick Pelham, Royal Navy, on promotion, by the Earl of Minto Lieutenant Spence, 60th Royal Rifles, by his Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge Lieut. Douglass, Royal Rifles, by his Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge Lieut. Lennox, on return from India, by Lord Geo. Lennox Lieut. Hay, by Lieut.-Colonel Hay Lieut. Holbech, 60th Royal Rifles, by his Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge Lieut. W. S. O'Grady, 60th Royal Rifles, by his Royal High ness the Duke of Cambridge Capta in Da'rymi le, on his promotion, by Lord Strafford Captain Crombie, 60th Royal Rifles, by his Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge Captain Temple, 60th Royal Rifles, by his Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge Captain Gibbons, 60th Royal Rifles, by his Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge Major Cockburn, 60th Royal Rifles, by his Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge Major Burnside, 61st Regt., on return from foreign service, by Major-Gen. Sir John Gardiner, K. C. B. Major Rloomfield, 11th Regt., on promotion, by Lieut.-Gen. Lord Bloomfield Major Robertson, on promotion and appointment to the 96th Regt., by Lieut.-Gen. Sir John M'Leod Major Halifax, by Lieut.-Col. Knollys Lieut. Hitchins, by Lieut.-Gen Sir A. Brooke, K.C.B. Lieut. flume, 95th Regt., by Major-General Sir E. Bowater Vice-Admiral Sir John West, on his investiture as Knight Commander of the Bath ; Captains—F. Bullock, on appoint ment to H.M.S. Fearless ; Lewis T. Jones, on promotion, and return from the Mediterranean; Edward Boxer, on re turn from the Coast of Syria ; Fisher, on return from foreign service ; George Hathorn, on promotion and return from Syria ; Sydney Dacres, on promotion ; and Lushington, by Lord Minto. Commanders—Washington, on his appointment to H.M. S. Shearwater, for the survey of the North Sea; Barton, on promotion and appointment to H.M.S. Monarch ; H. Stroud, on return from foreign service ; R. Douglas, on ap pointment to H.M. S. Poictiers ; T. Stuart, on promotion and return from Syria ; Jerningham, on promotion and re turn from the China expedition ; Glanville, on prom6tion and return from foreign service ; and E. Ommaney, on pro motion, by Lord Minto. Sub-Lieutenants Lucas, Langley, and De Winton, on appoint ment to the 2d Life Guards, by Colone411I•Douall. . Captain F. S. S. Hepburn, Lieut. C. F. Mayne, and/Adjutant Ward, by Sir J. Gardiner. Lieut. Heldsworth, on return from service in India, by Sir J. Kempt. Lieut. G. A. Hicks, by Si r W. H err i es - Major-General Sir H. King, on his return from the Govern ment of Heligoland, by Lord J. Russell Ensign G. C. Urmston, on appointment to the 3d West India Regiment, and on going abroad, by 'Sir George Stanton. Major-General Cartwright, Captains , -- ai. Shawe, J. B. Bellasis, George Clarkson ; Liunignant ,-- . P. Austen, J. S. Harris, and W. J Eastwick, on his ~ rn' rom India,- by Sir J. Hobhouse. T • • 1 , , Captains Berners, Holcombe, Lieutenants Gilbe , andWeille, , on his promotion, by Sir, H. ,VlNtsin ,r ,'•+ 1 . 4 ' Generals—Sir Thomas '..nHell, on being appointed C A •t f the 7lst Regiment ; Sir 'l•s'', . 7 (Wits, on being a p rated Colonel of the :::,,5 1 .,' ,D . .',,,,,, .;,,,Afr .f" Dieldon, on being appe .: •'.4.,•4;: . ir*:7•.,.• d t 'a, , • reops If Nova Scotia and Ne •wega•lV,T. -; • f;•i - :`,.- I p; .'B., on is return from ~.._,.- • • t - • ' India 'by - c-- am-440.f,, , P' ' tv g l k Lieutenaiii 4akti•- - ':'iffSecend Lieutenants William Gren- fell and 14? - a . I: . the Duke of Cambridge. ' . _ Limit . : Eliot, Lenge, Artillery, by Lieut.-Col. Hay Capt. Teesdale, Royal Horse Artillery, by Lieut.-Gen. Lord' Bloomfield Capt. A. C. Sterling, on his return from Canada, by Lord Fitzroy Somerset Capt. A. Smith, by the Duke of Argyll Capt. Ainslie, by Viscount Melville Capt. O'Malley, 88th Regt., on appointment to the Staff of North America, by Col. O'Malley Lieut. de Havilland, by Gen. Sir Wm. H. Clinton, G.C.B. The following Nob)emen and Gentlemen had the honour of presenting Addresses and Petitions to her Majesty : Lord Worsley—A loyal Address of Congratulation on the birth of the Princess Royal, from the Mayor, Aldermen, and Burgesses of the borough of Grimsby. The Earl of Powis—an Address from the Rural Dean, Clergy, and Laity of the Deanery of Caedewm, against the Union of the Dioceses of Bangor and St. Asaph, and against the Abstraction of the Revenues of the Church from the Prin cipality. The Earl of Powis—an Address from the Rural Dean and Clergy of the Deanery of Ceifeibog and Mowddwy, against the Union of the Dioceses of Bangor and St. Asaph, and the Ab straction of the Revenues of the Church from the Principality. Dr. Robert Williams, President of the Royal Medical and Chirurgical Society, and Dr. Henry Lee—an Address of Con gratulation cn the Birth of the Princess Royal, from the Pre sident, Council, and Fellows of the Society. The Afayor of St. Alban's (Mr. Rumball), with the Mem bers for the Borough, Mr. Muskett, and the Earl of Listowel— an Address of Congratulation to her Majesty from the Bo rough of St. Alban's, on the Birth of the Princess Royal. Mr. Rumball was presented by the Earl of Listowel. The Hon. Geffrey Browne—an Address of Congratulation on the Birth of the Princess Royal. Earl Stanhope—a petition from St. Leonard's, Shoreditch, praying for a change of Ministers. '1 he Mayor of Guildford (Mr. Haydon), accompanied by Colonel York Scarlett,—a dutiful and loyal Address from the Mayor. Town Council, and inhabitants of Guildford, of Con gratulation on the Birth of the Princess Royal. Mr. Richard White, Mayor of Sunderland, accompanied by Mr. Alderman Thompson and Mr. Andrew White, Member for the Borough—an Address of Congratulation from the Cor poration of Sunderland, on the Birth of the Princess Royal. Mr. White, the Mayor, was presented by Mr. A. White, M.P. Sir Bruce Chichester, M.P., and Mr. Hodgson, M.P.—an Address of Congratulation from the Mayor and Town Council of Barnstaple. Mr. Palmer, Mayor of Great Yarmouth, accompanied by Sir Edmund Lacort, Bart.—Addresses of Congratulation on the Birth of a Princess, from the Corporation and Inhabitants of-Great Yarmouth. Mr. Palmer and Sir Edward Lacon were presented by Mr. Wilshere, M.P. • Mr. Rickford, R.N., Mayor of Reading, Mr. Mandy, Town Clerk, Rev. George Hulme, Chaplain to the Mayor, Mr. Geo. May, and the Solicitor-General to the Queen Dowager—an Address from the Corporation of Reading. The above gentle men were presented by the Marquis of Normanby, Mr. Rickford, R.N., Mayor of Reading, Rev. S. W. Yates, and Mr. H. F. Letchworth—an Address from the Inhabitants of Reading. The above Gentlemen were presented by the Marquis of Normanby. The Rev. Alexander Munro, Moderator of the Synod of the Presbyterian Church in England, in connexion with the Church of Scotland, accompanied by the Rev. Dr. Ralph, the Rev. Dr. J. H. Brown,-t146 'Roy. Dr. Paterson, the Rev. J. Gard ner, the Rev: Joha Park, the Rev. Peter Sowers, the Rev. A. INPLean,lhe Rev. Alexander Renaison, the Rev. Alexander Murdoch, the Rev. C. F. Buchan, the Rev. J. Watson, the Rev. William Grant, the Rev. Ilugh Campbell, the Rev. George Crichton, Mr. C. Vertue., Mr. C. Cowan, Mr. William. Wilson, and Mr. Thomas Boyd—an Address of Congratulation on the Birth of the Princess Royal, from the Synod of the Pres byterian Church in England, in connection with the Church of Scotland. The whole of the above Gentlemen (with the ex ception of Dr. J. H. Brown) were presented by the Marquis of Normanby. Her Majesty gave audience to the Lord Chamberlain, the Field Officer in Waiting, and the Captain of the Guard, Mr. de Paiva, Attache to the Brazilian Legation, was pre sented to his Royal Highness Prince Albert yesterday. Her Majesty and Prince Albert, and the Prince of Leiningen, attended by the Royal suite, returned to Buckingham Palace after the Levee. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Gloucester visited the Duchess of Kent yesterday. General Alava, the Spanish Minister, had an audience of her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent yesterday, at Clarence House, St. James's. FASHIONABLE INTELLIGENCE. ARRIVALS. The Count Survilliers and suite, at Marshall Thompson's Hotel, Cavendish-square, from Newnham Paddock, Warwick shire; Earl Harewood and family, yesterday, ih Hanover square, from Harewood House, Wetherby, Yorkshire ; Vis count Barrington, in Cavendish-square, from Beckett House, Berkshire ; Admiral Sir Thomas Williams,' in Cavendish square ; Sir Robert Buikeley, in Cavendish-square ; the Hon. Mrs. Bagot, in Chapel-street, Grosvenor-square; Lady Dam pier, in Chandos-street ; Lady Elizabeth Heynell, in Strat ford-place; Mr. Robert Gordon, in Audley-square ; Lord Barham, in Cavendish-square; Lady Mary Bentinck, in Charles-street, Berkeley-square ; the Marquis of Huntley, in Chapel-street; the Hon. the Misses Walpole, in Charles street ; Mr. Robert Gower, in Devonshire-street ; the Hon. Mrs. Neave, at the Dowager Lady Arundel's, in Dover-street; the Hon. Charles Tollemache, in Charles-street the Bishop of St. Asaph, in Portland-place; Viscountess Ashbrooke and Miss Flower, in Albemarle -street; Lady Robert Seymour, in Portland-place; General Sir Charles Colville, in Albemarle street; Lady Harriet Chichester, in Portman-square; the lion. Lady Borough, in Portland-place; Mr. and Mrs. Hornby, in Portland-place; the Hon. Owen Stanley, in Dover-street; the Hon. A. Kinnaird, Colonel Sir James Hope, Bart., the Hon. General Arbuthnot, the Hen. Henry Fiennes, the Hon. J. Howard, and Mr. Annesley, at the Albany Chambers ; L. B. East, Esq., M.P., and Mrs. East, in Eaton-square, from Derbyshire ; Mr. and Mrs. Hallifax and family, in Portland place, from Suffolk; Mr. and Mrs. Norton, in Harley -street, from Elton Manor, Nottinghamshire; Mr. and Mrs. Culville, and family, at Fladong's Hotel, from Lawshall, Bury St. Ed munds; William Wells, Esq., at ditto, from Redleaf, near Penshurst, Kent; William Tudcr, Esq., at ditto, from Chel tenham; Ruddell Todd, Esq., at ditto, from Brighton ; Capt. Charles Young, at ditto, from Brighton ; Charles Nevill, Esq., at ditto, from Nevill Holt, Market Harborough; Edward Grif fiths, Esq., at ditto, from New Court, near Ledbury ; the Rev. Henry Griffiths, at ditto, from Cheltenham ; G. B. Kelly, Esq., at ditto, from the Continent. DEPARTURES. Sir Duncan Cameron, Bart., from Fladong's Hotel, for Blackheath; Mrs. Bariffe, from ditto, for Kingston, Jamaica; Mr. and Mrs. Mackenzie, from ditto, for Brighton ; Robert. Johnstone Douglass, Esq., from ditto; for Coton House, Rugby ; Captain. Saunders, from ditto, for Cheltenham ; the Rev. Caries Barham, from ditto, for Barming, near Maidstone; the Rev. Mr. Sage, from ditto, for Brackley, Northampton shire. STATISTICS OF DUELLING UNDER GEORGE THE TIIIIM—Such was the frequent occurrence of duels in this long reign, that one hundred and seventy-two were fought (in which three hundred and fo r ty-f our persons were con cerned); sixty-nine individuals were killed ; in three of these fatal cases neither of the combatants s u rv i ve d , n i nety - s i x were wo unded, forty-eight of them desperately, and forty-eight of them slightly ; while one hundred and seventy-o ne esca p e d unhurt. F rom this statement it will be seen that rather more than one-fifth of the combatants lost their lives, and that nearl) one-half r eceived the bullets of their an t agon i s t s. I t a l so ap pears that only eighteen trials took place; that six of the ar raigned individuals were acquitted, seven found guilty of man slaughter, and three of murder—two of whom w ere execu t e d, and eight imprisoned for different periods. A FELINE SPORTSMAN.—As a man was fur tively ste a ling away from a dark alley, in th e R ue S t. J ean de Iteauvais, two days ago , staggering under the we i g h t o f a well filled sack, he was stopped by some police officers, who imme diately inspected his burden. To their horror and astonish ment they found it to consist of the bodies of about twenty dead cats. On being closely interrogated, Germain Galet, this wholesale murderer, confessed that his only occup at i on was hunting cat s , f or t h e skins of which he found a ready mar ket, and disposed of many of the carcaQes to traiteurs, to be served up to their guests as rabbits. This poacher in the pre serves of the good old ladies of the city will have, it is said, to answer before the tribunal for no fewer than sixty head of pule thus killed with out a license.—. Paris Paper, IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS, APRIL 28. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'Clock. D 1 r. J. PARKER presented a petition from the Manchester and Ashton-under-Line Railway Company against certain provisions of the Railway'Bill before the House. Mr. HOME DRUMMOND presented a petition froin a Scotch Pres!): tery against railway travelling on Sundays. Mr. PARKER presented petitions from the Corpo rations of Ludlow and Sheffield, praying for a revision of the Commercial Tariff. An HON. MEMBER presented petitions from various railway companies, whose names did not reach us, against the Bill before the House for the regulation of' railways. Mr. AGLIONBY presented petitions from Suffolk against Ecclesiastical Courts and Church-rates. Mr. BRISCOE presented a petition from Bath against the Dog Carts Bill. Colonel VERNER presented a petition from the Grand Jury of the county of Armagh in favour of Lord Stanley's and against Lord Morpeth's Irish Re gistration Bill. Mr. BAINES presented several petitions from places in Yorkshire against compulsory oaths, Eccle siastical Courts, and Church-rates. Mr. COLQUHOUN presented several petitions from Manchester, Derby, and other places, against lay patronage in the Church of Scotland. Mr. GROTE presented a petition from several hundred merchants and traders in the City of Loudon, praying for a revision of the Customs duties. Colonel RUSHTON presented a petition against the grant to Maynooth College, but the designation of the petitioners was not heard in the gallery. Sir WM. MOLESWORTH presented a petition from persons connected with South Australia, against the alienation of the emigration fund. . . Mr. HAWES presented a petition from a p!acc in Cambridgeshire against Church•rhtes. . . Lord CASTLEREAGH presented a petition from the Elders of a Presbyterian Congregation in Scot land, praying for the abolition of Church patronage in Sdotland—in the prayer of which he heartily con(arred. Mr. Sergeant TA LFOURD presented a petition from the North of England Medical Association, complaining of the manner in which the medical officers were appointed to Poor-law Unions; also, a petitio❑ from the chemists and druggists of Reading, against the Medical Reform Bill ; also a petition from the Protest ant Ussenters and others residing in the tifighbourhood of Abingdon, praying for the abolition of Church-rates. . Mr. HUME presented a petition from a place the name of which we could not catch, praying for the abolition of Church-rates and of Ecclesiastical Courts also from Kerrymain, playing for the abelition pf the bread tax and a free trade in corn and provisions'bene rally, and for a reform of the tariff ; also petitions to the same effect, from the tool-makers in Warwick, and from the inhabitants of Wbithutin. Sir R. INGLIS presented a petition from. the rector, churchwardt.ns, and other inhabitants, of Stoke upon-Trent, against a'Arther grant to the College of Maynooth ; from the county of Stafford, against Sun day trading on railways, and from the county of York, in favour of Church Extension. Sir R v . presented a petition from Avon Bassett, e county of Stafford, in favour of Church Extension ; from a hundred in Lincoln, praying that - the County Courts' Bill may not pass into a law ; or that if it does, the Court Vablished there may be (..xempt from its operation ; :.,from Tamworth and Aoge tt `fii the counties of ' ;.ick and Leicester, iiAlfur of the Bill for preventln: the use of dogs as beasts of burden.. Mr. LITTON presented' a petition from a congre gation of Dissenters in Coleraine against Church pa .. tronagc. SUNDAY FLOGGING. Sir R. H. INGLIS wished to knowlwhether it was the intention of the authorities at the Admiralty to issue an order to the officers of the navy similar t o that lately issued from the Horse Guards against flogging on Sunday. He asked the question as he understood that a case of flogging on Sunday had lately occurred on board of one of her Majesty's vessels. Mr. MOORE O'FERRAL said that although it was not usual to take such a step, the Board of Ad miralty had issued a circular to the officers of the navy for the purpose referred to by the Hon. Member. Mr. GROTE gave notice that in Committee on the Bill for regulating trade in the British Colonies he would move an amendment, to the effect that the pro vinces of Upper and Lower Canada should be ex empted from the operation of the Bill until the duty on tea imported into those colonies should be reduced from Pourpence to one penny. REGENT'S PARK. Mr. EWART begged leave to ask the Under- Secretary for the Treasury whether it was the intention of the Government to open the whole of that part under grass i❑ the Regent's Park to the public ; cud whether they were resolved on making a commu• nication from the park to Primrose-hill ; further, whether that part of the park opposite Hanover terrace was to be also open to the public ; and finally whether the Government was prepared to lay before the House a map which which woull indi cate the alterations that were to take place. Mr. E. J. STANLEY said that it was the inten tion of the Woods and Forests to open the whole of the grass part of the Park to the public. It was also intended to open a road by means of a bridge from Hanover-gate to the Grass Park ; but it was not in tended to make any bridge over the Regent's Canal, to Primrose-hill, which would be accessible in the usual mariner. With respect to the last question of the Hon. Gentleman, he begged to state that it was the intention of the Government to lay before the House, in the course of the week, a plan of the Regent's Park, for the purpose of showing the contem plated arrangements. Mr. Sergeant JACKSON wished to ask the Noble Lord the Secretary for Ireland whether it was his in tention to proceed with the Irish Court of Chancery Bill on FritLty next ? He wished the Noble Lord to postpone, tmtil a more distant period, the further con sideration ct the measure, as some officers connected with the Irish Court of Chancery were anxious to be in London du:ing its progress. Lord MORPETH did not think it would be possi ble to bring in the Bill on Friday next. PARLIAMENTARY VOTERS (IRELAND). Lord J. RUSSELL said it e kwas his intention to mole the Order of the Day for going into Com mittee on the Parliamentary Voters (Ireland) Bill, and, as it stood somewhat low upon the list, he should pro pose, if the gentlemen who had orders on the paper had no objection, that they should be read over for the purpose of postponing them. The preceding orders were then read over, and fixed for other days. Lord J. RUSSELL—In rising to move the next order of tte day, I beg leave to state the course I pro pose to pursue. I asked the House to adjourn for a short time for the purpose of considering the effect which the words added to the first clause would have upon the Bill, considering them as of very considerable importance. I attached such importance to the words chiefly because of what occurred in the debate, inferring from the statements then made that it was intended by affirming those words to exclude the franchise proposed by my Noble Friend the Secretary fur Ire land. The importance of the debate and the impor tance of that vote I cannot exaggerate, but the Govern ment could not feel at all justified in considering that vote as conclusive on such a subject. On the second reading of the 'Bill the principle of the franchise proposed by my Noble Friend was affirmed in a very large House by the votes of 301 Members. We have now had the amendment- moved by my Noble Friend the Member for Northumberland also affirmed ; but it was not moved with the view of negativing any of those franchises that were proposod by my Noble Friend, but with a view of aiding those franchises. That franchise, if added to those proposed by my Noble Friend, will be an addition to the fran chise, and not a diminution.—( Hear, hear.) We be quite willing to accept that addition in the hope that the House is prepared to adopt the franchise of the nature we have proposed, and are prepared to support. We therefore think it is our duty to proceed with the Bill, and ask for the sense of the House upon the franchise proposed by us. That franchise formed part of the Bill, and was dis cussed upon the second reading of the Bill ; not cer tainly with respect to the amount of .5/., but with re spect to the nature of the franchise. Ido not consider that it is necessary to say anything further. I will, therefore, conclude by moving the Order of the Day for the House resolving itself into Committee on the Registration of Voters (Ireland) Bill. Lord HO WICK said that his Noble Friend (Lord J. Russell) having explained to the House the course he purposed to pursue, it might be for the convenience of the House if he (Lord Howick) also stated what was his intention with reference to the amendment of which he had given notice, in consequence of what took place on a former evening. He (Lord Howick) still held the opinion which he had then expressed, that the county franchise of Ireland night be most satisfactorily settled on the principles which he had endeavoured to state to the House, namely, by retaining the existing franchise in respect of the beneficial interest, providing a simple and easily as certained test of the existence of that interest, and affording a further means of securing the right of voting by the creation of an occupation franchise analogous to that possessed in this country by the 501. leaseholders. He (Lord H.) still continued to hold that opinion. Certainly nothing that had passed in the debate on the former evening bad contributed to alter it ; on the con trary, with reference to the first amendment, the House had affirmed the expediency of maintaining the princi ple of a property qualification, and his Noble Friend who had just sat down, in a manner which made him (Lord Howick) at a loss to comprehend his pressing the question on a former evening to a division, had stated that to the franchise, defined in the manner he (Lord Howick) proposed in addition to some other I franchise, he had no objection ; except as an ad dition to some other franchise he (Lord Howick) / THE SUN, LONDON, THURSDAY, APRIL 29, 1841. never should have thought of proposing a beneficial I interest to be defined in the manner suggested. If therefore the House hereafter should discover some other franchise by which the parties he sought to enfranchise would be admitted to the right of voting, he should then propose the amendment which was in part adopted by the House. But, per haps, a more important amendment was that he was about to propose, since that went to alter the nature of the occupation franchise of his Noble Friend, and to do away with the necessity of a lease in order that electors might obtain the right of voting by occupation, and in consideration of the beneficial interest. It appeared to him that what passed in the House on a former evening did not give him any reason to think that be was wrong in the proposition which he laid before the House, and which had been adopted by it. His Noble Friend on that side of the House had on that occasion refused to enter into any argument on the subject. He made no attempt to show how it was possible that they could with a franchise founded on a I , asehold qualification, or obviate the diminution in the number of electors that was avowedly going on under the present system, and which was mainly attributable to the unwillingness of the landlords to grant leases. The argernents which he had advanced relative to the disadvantages arising from holders of small properties, and claiming the franchise on account of their leases, were not disapproved. He had shown that persons possessing small holdings were gene rally more needy and dependent than tenants of a higher class. On the other hand, the Hon. Member for North Lancashire, if he (Lord Howick) correctly collected the import of what fell from him, had not merely admitted that he had no objection to the principle which he (Lord H.) advanced, but even went so far as to say if that principle had bcee adopted and embodied in the measure by her Majesty's Go vernment, he would have been prepared to give it his acquiescence, at least be would be prepared —he thought the expression of the Hon. Member for Lan cashire was —to give it respectful consideration. Ha would be sorry to misconstrue the words which fell from them on that occasion. He clearly understood them to disclaim giving any opinion whatever as to the details, as to the amount of occupation which might be required. But although to this extent the principle was admitted by his Noble Friend and the Right Hon. Baronet opposite, it was stated by thesis that they would not be prepared even to consider the details of such a measure, unless it were brought forward by the authority and on the respon sibility of her Majesty's Govcrnment.—(Hear, hear.) That being their opinion, it was plain that in moving the amendment of which he bad given notice, he had no support to expect from the other side of the House. —(Hear,.) On his (Lord Howick's) side of the House, he was equally unable to expect any support, because although his Noble Friends did not think proper at that time to enter into the agreement, they distinctly stated their intention to resist the amendment which he had in contemplation. The result of the division on the former night proved to them that be could not calculate on any support from that side of the H c ouse, even from those Gentlemen with whom he generally concurred in opinion. Such being the case, it would be manifestly useless to bring forward the amendment, and he would not waste the tinse of the House by proposing an amendment, though he was convinced that it would tend to a satisfactory adjustment, if this much disputed question had not the least chance of meeting with acquiescence. Of course, with the opinions he had expressed, this amendment fell to the ground. It would be impossible for him, however anxious he was to co-operate with her Majesty's Government in placing the franchise on a satisfactory footing, to support the clause which they were going to bring un der consideration of the House. He would not trouble the House by repeating the arguments in opposition to that clause which he had used on a former occasion ; he would only say that he had heard nothing which had led him to believe that he had attached an undue weight to those arguments. He could not, however, support the clause as it was about to be proposed—(Hear, hear, from the Opposi tion)—and he must confess he could not but feel sur prised that her Majesty's Government should cad upon the House to decide on it, for every man who knew anything of political affairs, of the state of parties in Parliament, end the country, must be aware that, al though the clause proposed might or might not pass that House, still there was no human probability- that a franchise, founded on that principle, could possibly pass into a law.—(Loud cheers Irons the opposition.) He thought there was not the remotest probability of carrying it, and he considered that the further debating the subject would tend merely to the increasing the party excitement in that House ; and, what would be still more unfortunate, would in crease the party excitement and the party animosity which now prevailed on that subject in Ireland. He thought the result must be, that the subject must continue another year without any effectual attempt being made to re medy these evils. He believed that the franchise required definition and explanation before they could apply any remedy to the present state of things. He believed the system of registration to be faulty, but he also believed, and could show from the information before the House, that almost ad the faults of the system of registration in Ireland, all the abuses, and all the evils which had been complained of; flowed mainly from the present undefined state of the franchise.—(Cheers.) They did not define what was the means of obtaining the franchise, and that was the real cause of all the evils.—(Hear, hear.) He did not attribute those evils which were admitted to exist on all sides, to the defective tribunals for registration, nor to the deficiency of an an nual registration. The reel cause of abuse was in the franchise itself. It was based on a fact which they had no certain means of ascertaining ; and to prove this fact, he would merely allude to certain Returns which had been moved for by the Hon. and Learned Member for Bandon. The Hon. and Learned Member had moved for a return of the number of claims put in, and of the number allowed in different parts of Ireland. Among other parts in troduced in the returns was the county of Cork. In that, the largest county in Ireland, 12,000 claims bad been made, and only 1,000 established, so that for every single claim established twelve bad been put forward for discussion. In twelve case they had all the litigation and all the discussion.—(" No, no," from Mr. Sergeant Jackson.) He knew to what the Hon. and Learned Member alluded—he meant that every one of the twelve was not carried forward for litiga tion. But the return, at all events, showed how great must be the uncertainty when twelve per sons could be led to believe that they had a right to the franchise as well as every one who established it. That was a monstrous and crying evil, and one which must continue at least for another year, because it arose entirely from the uncertainty of the franchise. He thought his Noble Friend could obtain no object in pressing forward his Bill, and any attempt of that kind on the other side in resisting the further progress of the Bill would be attended with precisely the same effect. It woulil krep up existineanimosity, and make more difficult at some future period ' a settlement of that ques tion. He was persuaded that such would be the effect of pressing forward the Bill at present, and he could not help asking the Right Hon. Baronet and his Noble Friend whether, if it were not fit to deal with the franchise, and attempt to accomplish that highly necessary reform unless that reform was taken up by her Majesty's Goovernment, proposed upon their responsibility and by their authority —if that principle held good with respect to the reform of the franchise, did not the same principle hold equally good with re spect to the reform of the tribunal?—(Cheers.) Did it not hold more than equally good when it appeared from the facts elicited in the course of the debate that the first step towards the accomplishment of that object was a clear definition of the franchise. He was persuaded that such was the case—it was impossible to dell with the subject, except as a whole, and, unfortu nate as might be the result of leaving Ireland to suffer another year under the evils of the present registration system, and the present inadequate franchise, he thought under the circumstances in which they were now placed, that such was the inevitable result. He did think, that if the House was actuated by a real and earnest desire to legislate for the public good, and net for the purpose of party and faction, a differ , ent result might have been obtained. The country had a right to inquire, and would inquire, why so im portant a question had not been settled. He did not wish to lay blame on either side, but this he must say, that if her Majesty's Government had proposed a mea sure retaining as much as practicable of the existing law, and supplying any difference in the number of elec tors, !at the same time establishing a clear definition of the beneficial interest —if they had proposed a measure of that sort founded upon a careful investi gation of facts, and supported by full and satisfactory information, he was certainly bound to believe from the declarations that were made on the other side of the House, that in point of principle, at least, no objection to such a measure, so brought forward and so sup ported, would have been urged. Eves upon the details of such a measure, it was not im possible that an agreement might have been come to. He supposed that any hopes of that sort were now at an end. He would conclude the few observa tions he had thought proper to make to the House, by expressing his hope that in declining to persevere in an amendment of which he had given notice, the House would give him credit for not acting on hasty and insuf ficient reasons, or in not having brought forward an amendment which might have been the means of recon ciling conflicting parties,—and on the other hand, when he found that the proposition was not received in the manner in which he had hoped, the House would think he had acted right in not persevering in it.—( Hear.) Sir It. PEEL—The few observations I have to make on the present occasion will be exclusively confined to a statement of the course I took on Monday night, when this Bill was last under discussion, and the position in which we now stand with respect to any future proceedings on the subject. I understood her Majesty's Government, as a Government, as the executive administration en trusted with the confidence of their Sovereign, and ,/ with the responsibilities of office, had undertaken the adjustment of this question—( Hear, hear)—that they had undertaken, first to define the franchise, and next to amend the admitted abuses of registration—abuses which they themselves did not deny, and which they themselves acknowledged to be gross and indefensible —(Hear, hear)—but they also took up this ground, that there was a risk, in improving the registration, of narrowing the franchise in Ireland—that there were evils in an undefined franchise, on account of the con flict of the judicial authorities, and that therefore the two questions ought to be settled together—that the franchise ought to be defined, and that those abuses ought to be corrected. In attempting, however, to define the franchise, her Majesty's Goverment made a proposal for subverting the franchise.—(Loud cheers from the Opposition benches.) In the Bill introduced by her Majesty's Government, the preamble recited that doubts and difficulties existed as to the present fran chise, and that it was desirable to clear them up ; but the practical mode in which they met those doubts and ditlieMties was to aubvert the existing franchise, and to substitute another in its place—namely, to take occu pancy, as tested by the rating, as the qualification for the county constituency, while a 5/. rating was to constitute the franchise in all cities and towns in Ireland. I understood the Noble Lord (Lord Howick) to make a decided objection to the principle of that franchise, on two grounds—first he objected to a uniform franchise as applicable to the counties and towns of Ireland, and next he objected, on principle, to the abolition of a profit from land as an clement of the county franchise. The Noble Lord, therefore, proposed by way of an amendment, first to embody the principle for which he contended, with the measure of the Go vernment, and which amendment, so far as the first clause was concerned, was simply this—that a beneficial in terest or a profit from land should be a sine qua non, and an indispensable condition in the county franchise.— ( Hear.) We entered upon a discussion of that question, and I distinctly understood the other night that we were then discussing a main—an essential principle of the Bill—(Opposition cheers)—a principle which was to regulate tie future constituency of Ireland. The Noble Lord (John Russell) has stated that he had subsequently discovered that the suggestion of the Noble Lord the Member for Northumberland and of the Hon. Gentleman near him, with respect to the beneficial interest, was an addition or supplement to the franchise which he himself proposed, and that therefore there would be now no inconsistency in ad mitting that additional franchise, as it would only extend and widen the constituency of Ireland ; while by a supplement of his own he would endeavour to enlarge the constituency. Why if anything could be clear and decisive on that point, it was the explanation of the Noble Lord himself when he brought forward his proposal, for the Noble Lord stated that he proposed his amendment for the beneficial interest as exclu sive of every other franchise. The Noble Lord the Secretary for Ireland placed the seine miscon struction on the declaration of the Noble Lord, upon which the Hon. Gen'leman the Member for Halifax, in the clearest and most decisive manner, said to the Noble Lord, " You are wrong in your construction of our amendment—you think that it will lead to an unsatisfactory franchise, and that it will exclude many who ought to enjoy it, but in this you are altogether mistaken." Why I was quite surprised at the pains the lion. Member for Halifax had taken, particularly after what had fallen from the Noble Lotd, to show the nature of the amendment, and I find it impossible to understand how it could be resisted by any one unless on principle. But on principle it was resisted.—( Hear.) Upon a principle so overbearing—so overwhelming, that it compelled the Government to overrule it as tar as was in their power. If you are going to define the franchise, surely you can du it without excluding some of those voters who would be enfranchised by the amendment of the Noble Lord ; yet the principle was found to be so overbearing by the Government that be neficial interest was wholly to be excluded.— (Cheers.) I do not in the least quarrel with the explanation of what fell from me, given by the Noble Lord ( Howick), but I think it better that the House should draw i:s inferences from a repetition from an Hon. Member himself, than from the recollection or the impression made on the mind of another. What I did say on the occasion was, that if it was proved to me that the just expectations that were entertained under the Relief Bill or the Reform Bill have been di appointed—if it be shown to me that there has been such a diminution of voters as will not leave a sufficient and intelligent constituency in Ireland, in that case, I would not be indisposed to consider a remedy, but if I must apply that remedy—if convinced of its necessity—l would feel myself compelled to contend that a profit from the land should be an essential quail ficetion for the franchise—(Cheers)—and I said also with respect to the definition of the franchise no authority short of the responsible Government of the Crown ought to take up such a measure, or could be expected to bring it to a satis'actory conclu sion. I do not say it out of any disrespect to the Noble Lord ; but if I were to give my assent to send up a Bill to the House of Lords, containing a new franchise introduced, not by her Ma jesty's Government, but by a Noble Lord, who, as lie said himself, was unconnected with any great party in the State, upon materials such as we have before us, I cannot assent to the setting up a Si. franchise. I think it necessary then to go into the details of the measure, despairing as I do of coining to any satisfactory conclusion upon such information as we have. Whatever the forms of the House may be, or whatever they may sllow, I would consider that I should be guilty of deluding Honourable Mem bers if I were to give my assent to the definition of the franchise tides's, and at the same time, I could give a reasonable assurance that it was probable that the Bill should pass into a law. I ask, then, ern I not justified in saying that in so important a matter as the formation of a new franchise, it is absolutely necessary that the party introduc ing it ought to have the confidence of the Crown and act under the responsibility of office ? Now then, if those were my opinions on Monday, after one day's interval, and the information received by us since, can my feelings have undergone any change ? Here is a general Report of the Commissioners ap pointed by the Attorney-General for obtaining infor mation on the subject. I have to persuse it, but it is very difficult to keep pace with the supply of those documents.—( Hear, bear, and laughter.) In the 24th pease of the second General Report is the passage— " There are not materials before us to form any calcu lation as to the probable amount of electors which the adoption of a franchise, regulated by any given amount of rasing combined with tenure, would produce."—(Op position cheers and laughter.). That is the Report of the Commission appointed by the Attorney-General. I have no friends to supply me with information ; I can form no other judgment than on the information sup plied, yet I am asked to constitute a new franchise, and these are the materials I have. lam told that " There arc no materials to form any calculation as to the probable number of electors which the adoption of a franchise, regulated by any given amount of rating combined with tenure, would produce." I look to another paper, and I find that in 1837 the 101. householders in each city of a county in Ireland, were 13,555, and that the 101. householders in boroughs were 9,408, making together 22,963. I take the year the Attorney-General selected as that in which it would be most probable the expectatiohs of the Re form Bill were fulfilled, and I find the number of per sons rated at 51. and upwards in eighteen unions, con taining cities and towns, was 23,000 101 electors in 1837, and 113,932 tenements rated at and above 5/. in those eighteen unions. —(Loud cheering.) I am aware that the cities and boroughs are not co-terminous with the union, but before forming any judgment as to the effect of any franchise I determine on, would it nut be necessary that I should know the number of tenements existing is the respective districts? The Noble Lord said when the 51. franchise was proposed it was nut his inten tion to increase the franchise, and the Noble Lord said that he did not expect that the 5/. franchise would lead to any sudden or material increase in the number of elec tors. The Noble Lord stated that he thought the gene ral tendency of the 5/. franchise would he to widen the constituency, but he did not think it at all probable that any sudden increase in the number of electors would take place. If those are the intentions of the Noble Lord, am I not justified in the course I have adopted, namely, de claring that, in rely opiniou, no one can deal with a question of this immense importance immense importance with respect to its practical results in Ireland—immense importance as being a question that is considered capable of further extension, unless that person could make a proposal founded on all those means of obtaining information which Government possesses, and unless he brought forward the measure on the responsi bility of the Government. With respect to the Noble Lord's proposition, conceiving that this is a question which ought to be dealt with so as to be permanently settled, though Ido not dissent from the general principle of the Noble Lord, yet I would be guilty of exciting false expectations, if I did not declare from the information that has been supplied, that I cannot, consistently with my sense of duty, support the details of the Noble Lord's proposition. Lord MORPETH said he did nut intend to go fur ther into the course which the Government would pursue until they came precisely to that question. He merely wished to advert to an observation that had fallen from the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite. He stated that the other evening he distinctly understood that the House was deciding a question of principle.—(Hear.) That that condiitin was the sine qua non of the future construc tion of the franchise of Ireland. He (Lord Morpeth) must say that the Right Hon. Baronet had understood directly the reverse of what he (Lord M.) had stated. The deduc tions might have been illogical or not, but he had stated 'distinctly that he looked on the first amendment on which the House had been called on to come to a vote, as one, the adoption of which would be inconsistent with the defini tion of the franchise or the remodelling or altering, so as to meet with the consideration of the House. Or course he admitted, and it would be idle for him to conceal, that the words actually adopted by the House, did imply that the principle of a beneficial interest, and even the very amount of beneficial interest, contained in the Reform Act, should be engrafted he the subsequent provisions of the Bill. The beneficial interest prescribed by the Reform Act was a beneficial interest of 101. This, his Noble Friend proposed, should be evidenced by au occupation, carrying with it a profit appearing upon the rate of .5/. What be (Lord Morpeth) said was that it was just as open to them to say that it should be evidenced by an occupation raised at the net annual value of 8/. When ha demonstrated, as even the Noble Member for North Lancashire admitted he had done, that the test of profit above rent and charges proposed by his Noble Friend would go very far to disfran chise the whole of the present constituency of Ireland, his Noble Friend and the Honourable Member for Halifax distinctly stated that they had never even dreamt of making this their sole ground-work for the franchise or constituency of Ireland, but they proposed after the adoption of the words which had already been assented to by the House, to annex another additional or alterative qualification for the possesFion of the franchise. He then stated that his Noble Friend's proposal of a test of profit, above rent and charges, would not be objected to by her Majesty's Government as a clear addition, but whenever brought forward they would be happy to adopt it. They insisteel, however, that that additional or alterative condi tion, should be a rating of the net annual value of 81., and upon that, whether considered simply as the sole proposi tian, and as the sole condition for the construction of the franchise in Ireland, or whether taken as an additional and alterative qualification upon the issue of having a net rated value of 8/., they had determined that the sense of the House should be fully and deliberately ascertained. Ile last Report of the Valuation Commissioners had stated that it was impossible to ascertain exactly what the rating would be while the tenure remained uncertain; and such must evidently be the case, for it was clearly impos sible they could guess at the value at which the landlords might be inclined to put their land. The Right Honourable Gentleman had also alluded to the num ber of tenements which would be left above the va lue cf 51., and quoted the number of those tenements in opposition to his ( Lord 2dorpetb'a) assertion, that the proposed franchise would not greatly increase the existing electoral body in Ireland. Now, the assumption of the Right Hon. Baronet went to this, that all the holders of tenements in Ireland above 51: were males; and that, in addition, they were all possessed of such leases as wonld entitle them to the elective franchise. Sir R. PEEL dissented from the representation made of his sentiments by the Noble Lord. Lord MORPETH wa3 at a loss, then, to understand for what purpose the Right Hun. Baronet had made the quotation. The Right Hon. Baronet had said that he had not sufficient information either to propose a franchise him self, or to assent to any one which might be proposed by her Majesty's Government. All he could say was, that they had not been chary either in collecting or producing all the information within their reach ; but he had all along contended, from the very nature of things under the Poor-law, as it exited in Ireland, that it was impossible they could legislate upon fult information durthg the course of the present Session ; he would remind the House that they had not undertaken the task to remodel the existing franchise until they had felt themselves compelled to do to by the attempts made to remodel and recast the existing franchise, connected as it was with the system of regis tration ; so that they had no option but either to bring for ward the present measure, or to allow them to alter the Irish franchise in such a manner as would render it ut terly incompatible with anything like a theory of a repre sentative systerr.—( Cheers. ) _ _ Mr. Sergeant JACKSON' complained of her Majesty's Government having brought forward a measure tor placing the whole qualification upon rating, without hav ing obtained suf f icient information upon the subject, and laying that information for the guidance of Hon. Mem bers on the table of the House. He thought the Bill of the Noble Lord ( Stanley) was a manifest improvement upon the system of quarterly registration, which had boea productive of manifest evil and inconvenience in Ireland. Mr. H. G RATTAN could not too strongly condemn the course taken by the Hon. and Learned Gentleman op posite, in now asking for further information.—(Cheers.) It was altogether a political fame. The Noble Lord below him was not the man to extricate any country—cer tainly not to extricate Ireland from a political difficulty. After six hours' discussion, the Noble Lord had been un able to get into the pith and marrow of his subject, and he had got through that discussion with the satisfaction only of a single admirer.—(Cheers and laughter.) The whole procceding a was a shameful, base, political juggle— (Cheers and laughter)--which could amuse none but the avowed enemies of Ireland.—(Cheers and laughter.) He did not think that any blame ought to be attached to the individuals who had brought forward this Bill. This great question was kept as a ball, to be thrown about as the interests or prejudices of parties might di rect. The proceedings of that night would be read in history. The conduct of the Noble Lord would be seen with astonishment, and with still more astonishment that of the Right Hon. Baronet. The Right Hon. Baronet had said that Ireland was his only obstacle, and here were two modes by which he might surmount it, but be would net adopt either. He had not the courage to do so. If he had his Gallant Leader beside him, instead of the Ithuricl (Lord Stanley) at his side, he might start up, not in a fiendish shape, but in that in which he gave emancipation to the Catholics, and gave liberty to the Ca tholic, the Protestant, and the Dissenter. Gentlemen might treat this subject as lightly as they pleated, but so help him God, be ( Mr. H. Grattan) would never con sent to abate one tittle of that liberty which was the birth-right of the people of Ireland, and in defence of which he was determined to risk everything but his character and honour.—( Cheers.) . . . The fluuse than resolved itself into Committee on the Bill. Oa its being proposed in clause 2 to insert tho words " fourteen years," Mr. HUME said he wished to ask whether it was in tended to give to the people of Ireland the franchise that ought to be given, and which m;ght be seemed to them, or only such a franchise as they could exercise at the wish of another ? The Noble Lord, tbo Member for North Lancashire, had said that he hoped the Irish landlords would exercise the same influence over their tenants ns was exercised by the landlords in England, and that the landlords Lad a right to refuse leases if the tenants would not come to some arrangement with respect to their votes. What was this clause, after such declaratiene, but a mode of robbing the present possessors of the franchise of their votes? The Noble Lord below him, on the 4th Feb. made use of these words, " I feel too strongly attached to the princi ples of popular liberty not to desire that the great body of the people of Ireland should feel that the majo rty of the Members sent from that country to this House expressed their feelings."—( Loud cheers.) But it appeared to him (Mr. flume) that the Noble Lord and Hon. Members on both sides of the House held out expectations to the people of Ireland which they bad no intention to realise.—(Cheers.) How was it possible that the people of Ireland should be satisfied with the present state of the representation as compared with that of Scotland and England ?—(Cheers. ) In these countries it appeared from the returns that every one grown up man in five had the power of voting for a Member of Parlia ment to represent the district in which he lived. That showed that in England and Scotland four-fifths of the men were disfranchised. The Right Hon. Baronet op posite knew the discontent which that injustice produced. —( Hear, hear.) The Right Hon. Baronet had, there fore, encouraged and supported the Government in in creasing the military and police force to keep down the demands of the people throughout this island for pcliti cal justice.—( Hear, hear.) It the people of England and Scotland were making great efforts to obtain a share of the rights withheld from them by the unjust laws of Par ment, and he was happy to say that millions were now or ganised in those efforts, what must be the discontent of the people of Ireland when only one in twenty had a voice in the representation ?—(Cheers.) Did the Noble Lord below him think that the people of Ireland would be satisfied even if his clauses kept up the ratio of represen tation ?—( Cheers.) The population of Wales and Scot land amounted to somewhat about three millions, of whom 120,C00 were electors In Ireland, out of a population of eight millions and upwards, there were but 98,000 electers.—( Hear, hear.) He said that the people of Ire land would be less than men if they submitted to such a state of things.—(Cheers.) He thought a property qua lification was essentially erroneous ; but he did not object to the Noble Lord's (Lord Morpeth) principle of rating, which afforded a rational means of distinguishing a fixed inhabitant from a vagabond. Not even the white slaves of England, or the black slaves of the West Indies, had so much to complain of as the people of Ireland.—(Hear, hear.) The sentiment expressed by the Noble Lord the Member for Northumberland, that the people of Ireland ought to he represented by persons of their choice, was a very pretty sentiment.—(Cheers and laughter.) But what good was that sentiment if the man did not stand up to his colours and give practical effect to it ?—( Hear, hear.) He (Mr. Hume) was unfortunately absent the other night.—( Cheers and laughter from the Tory benches. ) If he had been present he would have expressed his opi nion that neither Whigs nor Tories meant to do justice to Ireland.—(Cheers, and a laugh.) Although he ad mitted that the Whigs certainly brought in an eecelleLt measure, if they had left out the clause requiring a lease. —( Hear, from Lord Howick.) lie had taken the trouble to look to the qualifications under the English, Irish, and Scotch Reform Bills, and he found that they were of 82 different kinds.—( Hear, hear.) Was it any wonder then that there was so much difference of opinion amongst the various tribunals which had to decide upon disputed qua lifications ? All the confusion arose from the want of equal laws, which was of more importance to the poor man than to the rich, because the rich man could afford to purchase the expensive protection of the Courts. He en treated the House not to agree to the clause regarding leaseholds. Let it be enough that a man should have re sided six months upon the premises from which he is qua lified. Ii they did that, he was satisfied the people of Ire land would be contented with seeing a disposition to do them justice. _(Hear, hear.) He would now move to leave out the word " leasehold." The CHAIRMAN said that he must first read the clause. The clause having been read, Mr. HUME concluded by moving that in the required tenure one year should be substituted for fourteen. Lord MORPETII expressed a belief that the amend ment would not materially diminish the dependence of tenants on their landlords, and he could not, therefore, support the amendment. Mr. O'CONNELL thought that the proposition of his Hon. Friend the Member for Kilkenny would not enable him to obtain his object, as it would induce landlords to give short notices to quit, and tenants could not then be put on the register. He would move an amendment to the effect that the franchise should be enjoyed in Ireland on the same terms as in England, so that there might be identity on the subject between the two countries. Mr. HUME said that if, as was stated by his Hon. and Learned Friend, his amendment would not attain the end he desired, be would be ready to withdraw it. Mr. C. WOOD expressed a wish that occupat i on should be substituted for a leasehold tenure, and he was, therefore, favourable to the principle of the amendment of 1 the Hon. Member fur Kilkenny. Mr. HA WES also expressed himself in favour cf the amendment. Mr. PIG OT was opposed to the amendment. He was of opinion that if it were adopted, it would lead to an entirely new distribution of power in Ireland. Mr. SMITH O'BRIEN supported the amendment of ! the Hon. Member for Ktlkenny. in calculating the cou. ,~ ~ MORNING EDITION. stituency that would be formed under the proposed fran chise, reductions must be made for persons possessing two or three or more holdings, fLr tenements rated above the value, for tenements held by minors, and for tenements held by joint tenants. The gentlemen appointed by Go vernmeat to report on the subject had stated that it was impossible to ascertain the number of persons rated above 5/. who acre possessed of such leases as would en title them to the franchise ; and he thought he was fully borne out in assuming that not more than one-half would be entitled to it upon the Government proposition. This would give cne person in every 84 of the population of Ireland a vote ; and according to the returns laid before that House in 1832, ooe person in every 24 possessed the franchise in England.. He disapproved of giving the landlords the power of regulating the franchise by granting or withholding leases at pleasure; it was most uneons.itutional, and, looking to the growing indisposition of Irish landlords to grant leases, a rapid di minution of the constituency must be the inevitable con sequence. The only argument he bad beard against the amendment was, that under its provisions coercion would be carried to a greater extent than at p resent ; but the experience of England and Scotland went to show that leaseholders were as much exposed to intimidation from their landlords as tenants-at-will, while the experience of Ireland proved that such was the indomitable spirit of pa triotism in that country, that voters would not be restricted from an how. st and independent exercise of the franchise by fear; and he challenged the Attorney-General for Ire land no show that the ten-int-at-will in the rural districts attached to the towns were one whit less independent in the exercise of the fr,alchise than the leaseholders of counties. Mr. O'CALLAGHAN supported the amendment; ho we.; convinced that the time vat.; approaching when the possession of the franchise in Ireland must be based upon something oilLrent from the possession of a lease. He was astonished at the arguments of the Attorney-General for Ireland. There were upwards of 5,000 voters in the several districts attached to Cork, and he could stato from experience that th,;re were no men more independent than the tenants from scar to year. They were not to be inti midated. The leaseholder was much more in the land lord's power, as be might refuse to renew the lease when it expired, but the tenant from year to 3elr as he was not so exposed to loss from his landlord's displeasure, was con sequently m( independent. Sir U. J. NOR fiE YS would prefer giving the fran chise to a yearly occupation at a higher rating than to a leasehold occupation at a lower one. Mr. HUM E meant merely to try the principle of lease, or no lease, by th!s amendment. The amount of rating would be matt:r for after-consideration, be had no objec tion to a 51. rakes. The Noble Lord, the Member for Northumberland, having declined to press the principle, he was determined to bring it forward. Mr. WARD considered they were merely fishing for a franchise. The Noble Lord (Howick), in proposing the occupation franchise the other evening, had never told them what emount of occupation he intended to propose; and, as regarded that subject, all authorities seemed op posed to each other. Now, what was a Member, who knew nothing of the subject, to do, but to support that Bill, which, as had been justly observed by the Hon. Gentleman opposite, the Government had brought for ward on their own responsibility, and which there was some possibil;ty of carrying, if it could obtain anything like a united support.—(Loud laughter from the Opposition benches)—but if every Member brought f,rward his own promi , ion for fixing the franchise, while the Opposition acted steadily together against suffering the franchise to he touched, the result must be that the Bill would be 105 t..-.( Loud OppositiOn cheers.) It was was very well for Hon. Gentlemen opposite to cheer, but they should r,collect that there was as little probability of their being able to carry their own measure for paring down and crippling the - franchise.—( Cheers.) So that the only result of these discussions would be a great waste of time. Mr. HUME did not like the lecture of his lion. Friend. —(Cueors from the Conservatives. ) It was all very well to say they daaul i act together, when they knew what to do. He knew no more of what were the intentions of the Government than did the man in the moon._( Cheers and laughter.) No one knew what they were, and he did not believe the Government knew themselves.—( Cheers from the Opposition benches.) One day they brought down a most admirable Bill, and another day down came the Noble Lord and proposed most material alterations in it, and thus they went on changing every three or boar trays. Ile had intended to support the clause of the Noble Lord the Member for Northumber land, and had asked him if he intended to press it—find ing he did not intend to do so, he (Mr. Hume) had deter mined to bring forward the present amendment. Was it to be borne that they should say to the people of Ireland, you have everything to entitle you to the franchise, but if your landlord refuses you a lease there is no help for you, and you shall not hove it. If the Noble Secretary for Ireland had intended to devise a mode for throwing the whole county representation of Ireland into the hands of the landowners he could not have hit upon any expedient more effectual than rendering the possession of n lease ne cessary to the acquisition of the franchise. The people of Ireland had been badly treated. They seemed to think that hishmen were beasts and might be trampled on. It wos an insult to them to legislate tor them in such a man ner. Let them do as fie Hon. and Learned Member for Dublin had so frequently entreated them to do—make the Union a reality, by putting Irishmen upon the same foot ing as Englishmen, and they would soon find that Ireland would be contented and happy. LUCAS said the . ifon. Gentleman who had just sat down hid made it a charge against Members on that side of the house, that they did not act consistently with regard to this measure. He (Mr. Lucas) contended that there was nothing intelligible either to support or to op pose.—( Hear, 'ear.) If the Floe. , Gentleman would show him eomething tangible upon which to ground his oppo.,ition, it should not be, wanting; but be coefessed he was quite at a loss in the present state of the matter. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said, the lion. Gentleman who had just sat down, and who wanted something tangi ble to support or to oppose, was lea s t year one of those who urged that it was necessary, in order to place the fran chise of Ireland upon a sure foundation, and to prevent eternal disputes hi the registration, that they should have a fixed and definite franchise—more fixed and more definite than under the existing law.—( Hear, hear.) Dating the present Session the Hon. Gentleman had contended that it would be most unwise to attempt .to fix the fran chise in any way whatever, and that the true course to pursue in a plan for the registration of voters was to leave entirely out of the question the definition of the fran chise.—( Hear, hear.) Whatever differences there might be on that side of the House, it would not be very diffi cult to show that they did not differ niece than the Hon. Gentleman had differed from himself.—( Hear, hear, hear.) With regard to these particular words of the clause, he certainly thought it would be better to take the clause as a whole, and to discuss it upon its general merits, and he intended for the present to reserve his opinion as to its ef fect. But as a good deal of discussion had arisen upon it, he would state what were the difficulties which any Go.. verninent or any individual Member would have to expect in dealing with the question, and in the next place, what were the various advantages of the various propositions which had been made. First, then, there was an ima mense difference in the way in which the term 401. free hold was to he understood as applicable to the two coun tries. The freehold tenure of this country had been laid down in various books as comprising a tenure not less than a tenure for life; a tenure for a term of years was not considered a freehold tenure. Though the definition was the same, the class of persons and the interests et fected were very different. Amongst the 40s. freeholders ill England they would find small farmers, artizans, and men in small country towns end villages exercising the trades of tailors, shoemakers, and various other occupations, who were entirely independent of a landlord. They would also find persons in the situation of day-labourers, some of them on the verge of asking for relief from the parish, yet ma king a struggle to preserve their small freehold of 40a. This was a class of persons, on the whole exceedingly .in dependent, earning their livelihood by honest and indus trious mean!, not immediately connected with landlords. They were very much diffused thr oug h t h e country, and as it had often been held in the f am il y f or a long per i o d . were very proud of this small f ree h old i nheritance. . A freeholderhire,tnld h oLthi t s ha e t la th ss e iwnhhbernrita h n oce had hadm b et ee vi n it i h n ihnisDfaemvoinly ssince the time of William the Conqueror. It was, on the whole, a very independent class of voters, and the franchise was of a nature easily established. In Ireland there was only a small number of persons who had freeholds in inhe ritance. When the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir R. Peel) proposed in 1829 to disfranchise tbe.4os. freeholders, and it was asked that the freehelds in fee simple should be ex empted from that disfranchisement, it was stated in the first place that it was not advisable to make any distinction ; and in the next place, that there were but a small number of persons—in some counties not more than the or six—. who came under that description, and who would be saved by such an exemption. The property in Ireland was for merly held for a long term of years , and t h at was not con sidered in law as a freehold tenure. The 40s. freeholders did not at all correspond with the same class of voters in England. They were not that numerous, generally dif fused, and independent class of persons who had held this small freehold from generation to generation, to which Ito had alluded as forming that class of voters in England. Generally spcakieg, the freehold was a freehold for life, and he believed very commonly during the time of the 40s, freeholds they were hid for the lives of very old persons, and often could not be reckoned as of more than seven years donation. It was obvious that a tenure of that kind was very different from the tenure which existed in this conntry. But then they should also take into account the great differentia which existed between the state of society in England and in Ireland. The 501. tenants-at-will were generally persons agreeing in political opinions with their landlords; there was at least no great difference of feeling, ior of interest between them: Although the landlord mighOer might not attempt to coerce the vote of the tenant, there was no great difference in either case. The state of society was one of harmony and agreement, rarely interrupted except en great political occa sions, and as that of the Reform Act. In. Ireland it was im possible not to be st ruc k w i t h t h e gr eat diversity of feeling which prevailed between the great class of great proprietors and the class of tenants who, under the tenure he had de scribed, hail been intrusted with the franchise. They had the one party highly attached to an aristocratical constitution, very eager to uphold the Protestant Establishment of the Church, conceiving that the ancient institutions of the country must be preserved, as that which for them and their fathers has pro vided general security, and secured the succession to the Crown in a Protestant tamely. They had the class of persons below them—a very great mass of them at least, on the other hand deeply attached to the Roman Catholic religion, holding that they and th e i r e. fathers had been in j ured and insulted by predominance and by exclusion, and seeking in the exercise of their political rights, as far as possible, to do what they would consider as equalizing the balance, and to obtain for themselves and the class to which they . belong a very large, and, as they think, a just share of political power. lie was not stating that the one party or the, other were wrong in these views, or giving any opinion on Ow subject ; but he was stating it for the purpose of showing that,; entertaining such different feelings, imbued with so different a , spirit, going to different ministers of religio n , an d l oo ki ng to IC political contest and to the representation of that House as the means of embodying their sentiments, it was impossible but that the body of proprietors and the body of tenants should held different opinions, and wish to exercise the frenchise in a . ; . 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