The Sun. — London, England, 1819-08-31 00:00:00

FOR TUE SUN. NiETROPOLITAN NtEETINGS. Ara. Etirron —lt is impossible not to admire the impartiality with which the columns of 'rya . SUN have given piihlicily, to :the reports and coun ter-reports tespee•ine the late aff-tir at 'Manches ter ; but, Sir, admiralion is not.always approval, and the latter might have been withheld by many of your warmest friends, were it not for the pas sing observati , nv with which each insidious re port was accompanied, thus applying the anti dote before the poison could well produce its elfeer. , • lIMII welt been the conduct of all the other Papers—bed they given both accounts of•the fair, and refilled, or even attempted to refute, those which they considered -to be 'erroneous, .a plain man, neither absolutely aristocrat or revo lutionist, might have formed •a Pretty correct idea, of the troth, by the internal e.v.ide►►ce of tLie facts and reasonings. To the mass 'of London Headers,. however, that is totally iMpossible -; and now the inhabitants of Loondo►► and Westminster are called upon to judge collectively of the merits of the -case, upon evidence, rt'tne•renihsaif which , are ex parte. That such meetings may , find a BIU of 14 7 filament is true ; but, Silrl they. are 'called upon to give a Verdict, a measure "'as unconsti►utional as any that has ever issued from our 1-Wormers, from JACK. CADE down to FRANK.,BijRDETT, who, according to his own avoweal.winciples, i+t►ght long since to have laid down both the prefix and' :the adjunct inherited .from. hill aristocratic an-. cestdrs. But ,the People of England, Sir, wilt listen to reason;even when offered to them in plaimterms, , 4Without the tinsel of. ornament, or the ingenious • twisting of sophistry ; and in the hope. thatia ray from 'f HOSUN may perhaps throw sonic 15ght, upon the.onderstandings of the.many now Called upon to decide in a case of high political impoct, 1 shall _end-eavour to clear that case from the mass; of misrepresentation %yid) abicli it has been en : veloped,, amalgamated, and tnetarnarphosed:' In the first place, a meeting was called at . Manchester to elect a Representative to Pa rli a• menf, a nieasure decidedly" illegal, and which meet i n g it w a g the duty of the 'Magistracy to put down just as much as if it had been a . fleeting to burn ilinatester. Th t meeting was put off, as fir as regarded that express pupoir, ostensibly, and, Ilitlfil.her.Call.l4 l .lll4c["Weie w ta l &ca tt nT , :.. ,„ l 6 . with the same agents, and with the same proposed Chairman, who not only expressed his disapproval of the former posrponement,'but also took care •to inform his friends that, if they came •in force, they would be able to carry any thing. To secure the peace, and to secure property, 'under such circumstances (it being well-knotty that the crowds expected to assemble had for weeks been under military training, a procedure `tint seems to have very little connection with peaceable petitioning for itetorm), every civil and military precaution was taken. The Manchester Meeting took place—a Meeting at Manchester it certainly w.aA, but that it was a Manchester Meeting, I think even the Party Ga zette will scarcely have the impudence to affirm ; . for who formed this Meeting / Why, Sir, all the weavers, spinners, and common labourers froni six to twelve miles, round Manchester ; and these were the people who, on the preceding ;Monday, were to have elected a Representative for Manchester ! Sir, they might, with equal jrts tice, have elected WOOLER or ‘VADDINGTON as :Members fur the "'non-represented" of London and Middlesex. Now let us look at the-circumstances of the Meeting, at the military order, the military step, the parading through the town, the revolutionary banners, and,the red caps of Jacobinistn. Will any man but a RevOlutionist say, that these were not overt acts of Sedition, not to say Rebellion? Vitt any man, but a Radical Reformer, say thitt such a Meeting ought to have been permitted to proceed until it began the work of riot and plun• tier, perhaps of flames Find Massacre ? Will The Morning Chronicle say that these pre. parations were necessary, or event consonant to a Meeting called ostensibly for Parliamentary Re form ? But how was this motley and already exaspe rated assemblage to be clitcked in their career, with due regard to the security of the peace, and even to the safety of the unhappy grouper, drawn together by all the inflammatory arts of a prosti tuted Press ?—By arresting the ruab ?—No that was impossible and unnecessary—hitt by arresting the Ringleaders. But who were the Ringleaders i Aye, Sir, now we come to the point. That JOHNSON, SAXTON, and others, were the Ringleaders, I presume no man, its defiance or • common sense, will attempt to deny. Indeed .10 completely is that acknowledged, that one charge against the Magistrates is their not having seized those fellows on their wily to the Meeting. the Laws of Englainl are tender of life and li berty ; and, fur the sake of public justice and public tranquillity, the work would have been but half done had they been seized before they, by their actions, had completed the proofs—by mounting the Hustings, by taking and supporting the Chair ! This being done, and the legal forms of affidavit gone throngh, for, though the Party Gazette may laugh at legal' forms, the day is, thank Heaven I not yet arrived, in which they are to be despised, then the arrest became necessary. But the Magi i s i vates were aware that all the Civil force they could muster would be insufficient for the purpose ; of course Military force became ne cessary, and there can he no doubt but it was le gal. The Military force was of two kinds, Yen nianrt and Re;,-..rulirs ; and the Magistrates, as the: inost Constitutional, first brought forward the former. The employment of the Yeomanry has, how ever, been a gtear sobject of colloquial clamour ; its opponents endeavouring to prove, that if_ the regular force had beet) hrouitht forward in the first instance, the , atisir would have terminated withoitt a single accident. This, at first sight, looks plausible, Sir;. hut' I ti.ubt the kference. At any' rate, had the Magistrates kept lattck the • Constitutional force, as it is , . c a lled, par excellence, and brought forward the colliery, we may guess how soon the tables would have been turned, a , usl inferences drawn directly Contrary. Another objection started is, that the nsilitary were commanded by a Maxis ,crate, trate, instead of a Military Officer ! But to those: who make that objection, I shall only recommend the reading of the " Criss Cross !" BI,P ! CPC.STONE would be thrown away upon them !, Now, how stands the affair ? The Civil Power Were unable to penetrate the crowd, and the mi litary were called to support, mud to clear a passage for them. But howls that passage to be cleared ? By standing still with a low bow, and, a request to be permitted to pass ?—Absurd and ridiculous ! It was, the duty of the military to advance, with all necessary, but without muse- cessary pressure ; and it was the most pruderitial conduct for those who stood in the way, to get out of it. as fast as _they could. It fatal conse quences ensued", these cannot he artlibuted-tIo hot en those n e ,i n eti ll ift l e"lileg s al ,Meeting, knowing it to be so; for inch it reailly was, in spite of the plausible and Ostensible gronird of Retorin, and the cowardly or, hypocritical recommendations of HUNT to pre set ye order! What ! order under banners of " Reform or Death 1 . 1 ! Can there, indeed, be .one indi'vidnallo besotted as to believe that order was the object of those who called such a Meet ing Could seventy thousand men, women, and children, deliberate with ordet upon an abstract •constitlit infra! question ? Nay, have we seen any thing like deliberation or common s,ense, even at the late diminished Meeting of four thousand at ,Smithfield, when the " People" agreed by accla mation to a petition to the MINCES REGENT" god the People of England !"—thus petitioning them selces , like the Dotch Fiscal, whose slave having `broken a poliCe regulation, lie fined himself with the right hand„ whilst the left pot the Gne into his own pocket, the common receptacle for all the fines of his department ; or, like our own countryman, who so recewtly fined himself five shillings for sailing to Greenwich an a Sunday ! But it has been said that' the Riot Act was not read. Sir, the Riot Act was read ; but certainly it could no more be heard by 70,000 people than HUNT'S recommendation of order could be heard by them. But to read the Riot Oct was not neces sary. The Magistrates had not ordered the civil and military power , to -advance to disperse the mob, but to execute a warrant. If the, mob chose to fly in terror, that• was their own affair. If they chose not to.get out of the way of the civil and n►ilitary'force, but to stand their ground and throw stones and brickbats, that was their own affair also, and it was for them to abide the con sequences. That these consequences have been almost bloodless,' is not, however, their praise, hot owing to the hnManity of those who were called in, to support the laws. By energy, Sir, Manchester has been saved, and that effusion of blood; prevented, which mir'st hitve ensned,bad„tbe 11,111gistrAtes permitted the 'spokes men to proceed. The Meeting was not dissolved by force- it disiOlied itself ; and, 'whatever fae-; tion, Or reb.Olioo, ; or. tuason, may chose tc.as sert, either .at a Comnwu-hall or Palace-yard, the Magistracy will stilt claim, merit, alit( possess 'the thank3,of .Ftirmis of the tift'ish Coooittktion. v • - ours,, icr4rus. LONDON .10V1INA LS. FItOM THE MORNING PAPERS OF THIS DAY. [Morning ;:t] )(tykes art: In town of tke 11th inst. from Ca. . 4 1 , ..which are of a very fairmirable .tendency re 4,- garditig the yellOWAver," ‘v4;i7elt - was said to pre vail there, and which show that the accounts originally obtained from Gibraltar respecting the disorder were considerably exaggerated by the rears of the writers. It seems that even the Governor himself was in some degree imposed mum in the dispatches he received express from Cadiz, and that the sudden and strict precautions which were taken tinder his ()Filets were, generally speaking, unnecessary. It turns out, in the first place, that instead of half of the crew of the Asia man o f war, from the llevannah, being sick or dcad, only a few of her men were infected, and two only died on the voyage home. It was not at first knou.n : that she was in an uohealthy state, tool a boat'‘ crew were permitted to land, and to mix itself with the inliabitints, thereby counnunieatiog the pet Thence, such as it was, to a few individuals ott shore; when it was known. -11oWevvr, that the disease .had made its appearance on board the Asia, the .men were immkdiately sent back, and the ship floated under quarantine. Such of the inhabitants of Cadiz as had - taken the disorder. were conveyed to a temporary lazaretto beyond the bounds of the City, on the Isla de Leon, where the greater munher recovered, or are in state of recovery :.among those is only one sol dier, and it is asserted that the deatks in the whole do not exceed seven eight. The city of Cadiz itself appears to be more than usually healthy at this time of the year. A fever somewhat. of a malignant kind k nit uncommon in the months of June, July; , AugnSt, and Sep- . tember, but it has not yet made its appearance. Au order had been issued from the Admiralty. department, occasioned by the receipt of dispatches from Madrid, that all the transports which have been engaged to, carry out troops to South Ame rica, shall be ready to receive them in a few days;' in the meantime an . unusual , activity had been shewn in-concentrating the military, and it was• expected therefore, after the long delay that has taken place, that the troops would be embatked in the course of the present, month. , Eor the, most part they were in good spirits, 'and had not. time least reluctanee'l6 'go to Buenos Ayres, which, is the destination of this arinionent. • They were only unwilling to visit the unhealthy climate of Car a ccas. . • The greatest confidence seems to he placed, at the Spanish Court, in the of resistance which Lima will be able to make to Lord Cocti. KANE, _tint! the Insur;;,ents Under SAN MAtti' ' lN.- The'date of the latest advices from that quarter is not mentioned in the private communications horn Madrid received yesterday ; but the. follow. ing is given as: a correct statement of the land force's under the orders olVicerny PttzbilLA - COIsipLEAIRNT 91?„ EFFECTrVit LAND . FORCES INT LIMA. . . . ...__. . . Troops. ' o!seers. Don Carlos.] st Battalion , 5.14 a Ditto, 2,1 ditto • ..... 506 Ditto, Sd ditto, Itii ; tioie ' a, " diti ' ,;"'"''' ' • als _ __ . _ Ca otabria .267 .. ~ . .. 1•5 Nn. 4 of the Militia 482 Coricordil • .....1700 .46 Artillery . 500 Cavalry - . - 3 , 0 .20 . Dra,coons yiccroy's Guard l5O [Morning Chronicle,] . . We, received information last night from some friends to Mr". Hunt, 'that the statement of his haViitg been liberated on bail, which appeared in letters from Manchester, published in the Even. ing Papers, is noite unfounded. That Gentle man hay, indeed, communigated to them his rev); bitinn not to sign any recognizance, until an ap; peal be made to the Judge of. Assize as to .the legality of the commitment, against which he means to.centendo It is.expected that an Habeas Corpus will ,this day be granted, application hav: . ing b e en made tar. it yesterday„ upon the affidavit o f. Mr. West, who was refused access to Mr. Hunt in prison, or any copy ofLis commitment. My. Hunt is at liberty, by traversing tht. indict ment, to have the !vial postponed until the Spring Assizei but doubts are entertained as to his di.; position on this subject. PROVINCIAL JOURNALS. We copy the following Articles from The Leeds Inte?ligeneer of, yesterday (August oth), a 1' per of well-established loyal spirit. The disgraceful facts and the preceding reflectkons of the atitue are well worthy of public attention . •At the present moment, the 'proceedings of the persons who call themselves Radical . • Iltrunner4 claim the almost undivided attention of thus whose duty it is to note the "sips of the times,” and to point out danger, 'ere it apptonelies to overwhelm us.---In the execution. of this duty, it is with regret, that we call the attention of our, readers to the aecoun't of the meeting held at Himslet Moor, on Tuesday last ; vhere they will find it anttonoed by one of the Speakers, that a FEMALE REFORM , SOCIETY is instituted in this town ! The example of Stockport, Bitch burn, MAO.. (.11eSier, &c. is to be, followed here; nod, women ; forgetting- that their greatest grace and ornament ill a retiring modesty, come forward with. Otame,lesa effrontery, glorying in having shaken off,thosef straints.which, become their sex, and boas:log of tbeirdetermjnOolog t.',use their utmost entlea vont s in instil into the minds of their children t, drrP and ro9 : Feti,. hatred of t h e -present Goceiman e nt:* We, ',conceive these Societ.tes (with the exeeprion of.thesediPiontiptildicittions) more dangeronst bait any other step which has,yet been taken, in the' cruise of rebellion ;,, tor it is.,s mere nrin,cing of words,, a ,eomplete , affectation, to cAll the pro ceettinks of. the Radical 14.ettnuters by tiny other name. Theinfluence of females in every rank Of life is : greati end thongh that influence diusinishes as they step out of their pi over sphery ut ac ;ton, it is still certkilit, that every fllnitte' g els. ri r tally who joins the talOiS of tile female Itefortneilt will do incalculable mischief to social; 911 , d ; i i i i k il The Ici'tfice, too, of that exalted character tic' , " • • Eng sh svotnen have Ilitherite.maitita ° rhos if all other nations, for a taith . c1 : 1 6 : 05 , of the'lrkies of their station, and , Ati diitnestie ,virttles whit:li l t eu d e i k ,hapme a . 3 ,, i i ' l i g , ° . etnoiith the brow''or elii7ll,siild rob pain , ' I " 1 b . i; tion, and poverty, of half their horrois." : " . t o high estimation they are now called u poll of baiter ; and :or . what ...%—Tu become th e 1 001i .i, men, Who, having shaken off--all die •restrelf::, of Leligion and civil anhordiii,,tion thetnseYes_d many of them thing bankrupts alike in forttinek in charaeter—would seduce the whole coffln in" t o from their ditty to their God, t h e ir allegi al ' re 0 f their King, .and sink them as low iii the guiV, i ,, infamy as they are themselves. We have , , 0 0 w w ever, so much confidence in th e good sense "' . i i„ English omen,. that we ilte'leWr vo Y le i av, " I, it. ed, %yin be found, to einbatk in such all "",!if lowed calise ; a c oise which cam be ptoductive°o, of evil !o their country. of misery iiiiii flfgr 4ce pa themselves. IVe would adjure t h em by evol l io cull tic, to pause, ere they make a t 011111WIIIC,Vire with the disturhers of public 11,wriutlli ( v. . A '.. 1 1 - v e reflection oti the probable CO'siscgiletices , should think,- ; 'be- suf fi cient- to dater them 1 0 „ iron. taking such a step, and pre% eta diem , o f exhibiting the afflicting, the diSgusling sig` lt ' 0 1 English wymen Coining tor Ward 'in the cad sg ~ mason and sedition.". - .„ . will. 0 " MEETING ON HUNSLET MOO f " As we announced in our last, a Reform Mect ' held on Ilunslet Moor, on Tucsddy evening. Notwithst: ing the unfavoutableness of the weather, the number seblcd was near 4,000. A large party came from 11°11°1 mO O with a hand of music, which arrived on the gtoun d ttt : t half-past seren.—A Mr. CLAPHAM read an acc o " t proceedings at Manchester, from the ithwchts - ter ° bser rb 4 and JOHN ‘VINTEK, in a long speech, complainel". 3' 7` . hurthens which the poor bad to hear, because the: (01 facturerti, Merchants, and Landholders, shifted them their own shoulders, unto those who earned their - V e ; the sweat ef - their brow ; and theta refused to : c omelf'n. ;a l and aid them in regatning their rights and liberties• latter, however, he said, had now in their pi n cer t he lu e ; of gaining a comfortable ambsistence for themselves and f lies, independent of the saucy behaviour of every I" e t " . 41-4 0; "A stranger, whose mote nobody appealed to k"‘”",, , his addressed the Meeting. VS'e shall not attempt to P ii " t oe speech on record, which was nothingghtit a ti r ade aP in er /a. ministers of religion, whom he described wulses 511:1.,if clothing, who would fill their heads with faith , oll'id--:;01 empty bellies • with patience ; who preached, hu t Ili practise-7who prayed, but never felt. He c3°4 " jAnts MANN was received with load cheers,' 1,41 forward to tell them a piece of intelli:; enee. A tecet'ili: t I it g been held on Monday at shetlicld; •it was reP °"' " - h ' sa Stuart Wortley, one of the Niembers for the Cotillt)'e brought the Yeomanry Cavalry on tint ground. The, cOPP remained firm; and be was ihfoneed, Lord Lord Lieutenant, had os dere.l the Yeomanry oll% * fef to , inform them, that it was the intention of the Ci.°° re Reform, in this town, to convene,• as early as po , si bk ' gular Meeting. •-- hes ter•l " Joan! SMiTEISON told them he ,hadbeen Ma tic but being in a puor state of health, coed a 44 ;V detail ; bat should have an opp o rtunity of (1 0614 5°3 next Meeting.—tileli then staled, Milt a •,iun C c° . 14 it . foriners was opened at Leeds ; and that a subscriPlid- 11% un foot for the purpose of assisting such friends As °fc 'wired in dungeons. o rs‘' r " Mr. CLAPI/M4 requested -the People to di , P erse ably, and dissolved the Meeting. lig ' 4l " The party that Came from Horsforth retur n ed "'„010 - of WoodhemSe-Moor, where they paraded abou t (if 0 0 13 ' time. They surrounded the house of a wan wh o ' P I Ne i her of the Yorkshire Hussars, wh o was very n"P cb al :fed v • by their threats ;• hut thy:, did not proceed to an)" °"" 00 1° rage. Afterkt.!eping the intiaisitants e.f Woodliqose to of alarm for some time, they departed, through 11°8d' e s where understand they remained fur about a" ' our' J public-house in the village, before they h ita uj , der a ' -c their homes." •' This is all false. GERMAN PAPERS. lx te. I,Ast night we received Papers to recent • , 107 from various parts of Germany. Jhe f" Iv)141 , , articles are from the Nurembero Correspon degi. " NURENRERG, AUG. 19.—The Sax , '" t'°:styclo ment has not caused any body to be °"- A 1 lc' ( . either at Dresden or Leipsie, nor eve" 0 1 Its papers seized of any person point ed d • o ss suspicious, though it has not wanted irtvi."l-tlerf to do so. But the Government kw' s° i ! well teat it has nothing to fear. Accoil"" be' BoberniaSta.te, that emigrants have arrive"A t ti ts (torn I'cussian n a o i r ,„, that ' 1 - tlO no longer subsist it, their. own c tto tr " greater port coniists of linen e 4 vers • ea, Royal Government at Prague h a s alr,;atly "P diPII , le e us we hear, to the Minis', y Vi e nna, „ o ui • tions how to Het with respect it) pen*.- Or° " FROM THE LOWER RHINS, nuG ti l ese ' r ' nt have received particular Ree,,,,ni, front j6e o r/ from which it appears that the examinatic'iovid% carried oil with 'e„rr, eekhoot hitherto led to, anv ecttaindisct:vet ep had no sooner returned from 'l °ll PI ince Chancellor ,vent .Ive ' A fill i e n i c i t ol-. of VOL that had. taken ' iddee. IL ''''' n oc e rhit steps N'vill-now 'be talon -inexot"ill cin‘ely inateitialg hi:the,lo etdiecieti, •:. tic ° l 'e 6•ont,Vrinee . Hat aei,herg' s P er)C o , l-$ ll and justice, !bat Itte grew est prudence skew anti tit arc t ro '' ec s ( 00 will he managell toy •prej" dic L; •1 11 ,r; nestilis - Wltiti - tire'em`p ; lOyM'i. , this birj ( " -- Ciidm..eNo,7s ()Mee, are Stipro.,ol to he 0" ( et) tr.'e he cbocellr. wit list amiing his great at.te, l is . extre" tri r 4. r . " 41 , 11, in ransiieting busille‘o4, ill)ti Ikees ;0 0 4' his u‘vil eves, :here is 11',1 - room lor „ c 'Met tit r PI ire 144 '‘kb • ! i F . tk h t r Pe r 4 ( A ter( Ptr Per ( . 4 Per ( ' Altik lorti .'`"~ '`, R fo r C. 682 27.0