The Sun. — London, England, 1841-07-20 00:00:00

.---- ri 1831. Id noG fur ten ore diw- to r ittre. 14w the r t h e re t. i °9 nendoas "AORNTING SUN.- amidst loAd laughter.) . The y would come to the House commonsof for more taxes, and it was just possible that Ile • might know lie would not get them, and that he might Come forward and propose Vie free trade measures he had so virulently opposed last Session. If he did so, then down upon him would come all the sugar merchants, and all th at at he might of fellows.—(Laughter.) It was just possible might propose a property-tax, but it would be morally impossible for Mm to carry that., for the moment 1 ! Was proposed to touch the pockets of the gentlemen of House of Commons, they buttoned them up and kept !Item closed.—(Laughter.) Ten years ago the Whigs f ound. the co un t r y in a state o f commot i on an d incen , a risnl• The rural war was raging in Sussex, Kent, w and othe r count i es, an d t h at created under the admini stration of the Duke of Wellington, of whom he always did ipeak, an d a l wa y s wou ld speak with respect., because _ e knew him to be an honest man • but in saying so, he must say th a t h e was a mos t mistaken man as a Miniater. Where, he would ask, had been the disturbances in the _ o untry during the power of the Whi g s ? He only ' 4 °Ped that th e T or i es wou ld be enabled to keep the country in as qu i e t a s tate as they had done. Ile would, "'ever, say, along with his Hon. Colleague, if they Proposed u goo d me asures , h e , a l t h oug h bordering closely l ) " a Radical, would give them his support. If they brought forward any measures of coercion they would Meet with an honourable agitation, which would make the first queStiOn,Which would be put to a candidate be —was he' . a supporter .of the Ballot ?—(Loud cheers.) He dared say they had all heard of a Long ;V Parliament. corr u pt Parliaent. Now, he would designate present one as th e Bribery and Corruption and Inti midation Parliaindiat.(Lond cheers.) No election had ever taken pLake in the three kingdoms in which so much rn°n cY had - teen thrown away in bribery. The consti tuency of Niaryiebone had shown itself the most honest and inearruptibfe of all the constituencies of England.— (Cheers.) 'lf their election had come off sooner he had rdoubt the example they had set would have been fol. I°,,..eti in many places, and more especially in London u ly With thanking. them again for the hbnour conferred P',„`n• him he sat down amidst thunders of applause. 11 , 1 -he CumainAs then proposed the health a Messrs.. Drake and Ivimey, the Hon. Secretaries. .asWhile the company were responding to +2;se toast, the 13 10 . 11 11 'as being lit ; some drapery t ang i ug creatednear was upon the flame, and it ts . „ ix Some a l arm was but it was luckil put out without mischief. upon r h t)RAKE yet , ' lied thanks for the honour conferred erti ens : - ..id assured the electors that his utmost ex were at their service whenever they were re • ' r ed- He would not detain them, as Mr. Ivimey, who L"1,k1 • follow bin:, had some pretty stories of the Tories t .. " 1 12,1" before them. He returned his most sincere bauks for th e kind manner in which they had drank health. Mr. IMIEY felt very proud of the honour conferred 1 )0 ,4 him by the electors of Marylebone. He was not Bil ling to det a in thorn ; he would, therefore, merely read u :lv sentences from their Report to the Committee , to show the lies the Tories indulged in It has afforded your Committee some amusement in ' L _ sy ving the boastings of the Tories of this boro u g h, are chiefly to be found in their appropriate organ, e Mooting Herald newspaper. The result is likewise el t l in, showing Reformers the folly of placing any re- Upon the future statements of the Tories." ti 'At the 22dof October, 1839, we find the following no ee in that paper : It appears from a very elaborate table of the rece n t re visiou, drawn out by Mr. Rook, the Assistant-Secre boto the Loyal and Constitutional Association of the tr l e 'c borough, that the result of the revision is ex . Inely favOurable to the Conservative cause. On this year's register there are 3,158 who voted for Lord Teignmouth , 834 2,900 for th e Lib era l s , being a majority for his Lord hip of 258. B es id es suc h majority it is to be observed at a large number of Conservative voters has been re , L I VIY added to Paddi ng ton. In this parish, during the h o. " . Year, a grea t many o f th e first-rate and respectable uses, recently built, have got into rate, and it is well -sown t h„ .s of the occupants a decided majority are Con . Aar" of The manner in which the registration , o n the p i . " of the Conservatives, has been conducted, reflects t credit upon the gentlemen to whose vigilant super nttendence it is intrusted, viz., Mr. Greenwood, Secre tary of the Loyal and Constitutional Association. A c o a.io, on the 12th of November, 1839, we find the fol %Mg . Marylebone Mar lebone Loyal and Constitutio nal Asso s elation. 5' • To the • indefatigable manner in which the members o b f e t a h t i t s useful Asssociation have exerted themselves, is to The e re gistration in a great measure, to the successful issue j o e gistration in this large and important borough. prop e ns ervatives were required to see that they were they , r ctheir real r egistered on an early day, and so promptly did anjesPelld to the appeal of. the Association, that if anther election should take place during the next year, strength will be shown. Let the Conserve iveshe on the alert, and the borough of Mar) lebone will e re bong escape from the thraldom of Radical domination nnder which it has so low= suffered." L . Again, on the 12th of December, 1839, we find the 14 lowing letter in the Times, from Mr. Greenwood, Se cretary to the Marylebone Loyal and Constitutional •As'sociation : " Sir,—l have at this moment ascertained that the a gents canvassing signatures to the requisition to Mr. ~..'4wart are making use of the m ost g ross untruths as an 'thleement for individuals to sign, the principal of 'which is that it is not the intention of Lord Teignmouth t ° again come forward as a candidate for the representa tion; , , of this. borough. Now I have to request that you rite this false statement an unqualified 4 : )4 1 Teign mou th w ill again come forward, and also ti l b s ()ther Conservative with him, and when the time for fight arrives, I have no doubt the Radicals will expe rience a defeat which will astonish them." the Morning Herald of March 17, 1841, we find %following. (amongst other statements) in the Rep ort 0, the:Loyal and Constitutional Association. (T his re 'l'R to the present Register):— :_" .The Committee of Management, in making their i" .s otil Annual Report, have much pleasure in cong,ratu :tlng the members of the Loyal and Constitutional As °eiation on the progressive increase of Conservatism in the borough. yhis great improvement is not only attributable to • 1 ,, late erection of houses of a superior class within the ' 4 cu oi , its of the borough, and which are occupied by persons i l i e r espectability, intelligence, and wealth, but mainly to the great change in the opinion of a large portion of v e constituency, whose experience has shown them the their distinction between Whig and Radical pro mises and f u lfil ment. " The C omm itt ee beg to inform the members o f the Associati on , that during the six years of its existence, e objections successfully made on the part of the Con servatives amoun t to 2,248, and the number of claim s es tablished for persons whose names had been om itted b y Co nservative Overseers, is 374, making a total in favo ur of the ~on servative interest of 2,622. ;` The p resen t reg ister contains 11,570 electors , and `',l these, the number that voted for the Conservative can clate is 2,828 ; and of those who voted for both his op- Pe '"lts 2,601, thus leaving a Conservative m a j orit y of -27 . s , After congratulating them that their rec ei p ts ex ceeded th :h.- expenditure, and boasting of their taiumph the Registration Court, the Report proceeds : `` The C omm ittee beg to state, although the numeri -141 gain on this occasion far exceeded that of the pre -1;:lous year n hav, y e et been had n , in all p ot rob the abili op ty, ponent g s to Conserva still reater would i t t liat gai „,, iv e opinions been well aware of the attent ion which tilven to the registration by this Association, and the assurance of the names of p erso ns not duly qualified being 'etrinnged from the lists of voters for the borough. t 'This means h a d th e y not been watched.) And this t hat congratulate the members of the Association ...""at the genera l s tate of the register is such as to war the most sanguine expectation of the return of two Co nservative : Members in the event of a dissolutio n of last, in The Morning Herald, of the 22d of March iation, n oticing the Report. of the Warren - street Assoc more (rfore mentioned, says, in speaking of it, " That a l fiWent and barefaced attempt to impose upon the * lectors of the borough and public credulity, than is le . s l'ineed in it has, perhaps, never been known in the his ' I_°rY of electioneering trickery. 'The Report then con lently assures the constituency that at the next elec tion the borough will be relieved from the stigma which now attaches to it, of being the only metropolitan coned tuency which returns a Tory , " and co nclud e s wit h t he followi n g positive untruth :—" That their boast is not an idle one, is proved by the fact that Lord Teignmeuth, alread y anticipating his ,defeat, has p rudentl y announced -his intention of retiring from the borough." Again, in the Herald of the 26th of March, the attack ''• u pon the Report of the Warren-street Association,is renew e d in a long article. The following are extracts TO show the fallacy of the inference which the Whigs desir e to be drawn from the table, we may observe that 44 Paddington the number now registered is 196 more than in 1838, and this arises from the great number of first rate houses erected in the most opulent parts of the l' ar ish, and the Whig Register Association know to their cost that while the register in Paddington shows nn increase of 196 electors since 1838.. The Liberal ranks in that parish have at the same time been sadly thinned by the pulling down of small cottages , in h a bited by the lower class of voters, who in too many instances follow i n t h e wa k e o f a leading, especially if he be an lagitating, Radical Member. The cottages of these small class voters have given place to the first-rate houses alluded to above, the latter having, in fact, been built 'upon the very groun d f ormer ly occupied by those cot ' cages. In c onsequ ence of these improvements, the Con servative majority in that parish alone may be now put down at least as 150, which will increase annually for :several years. In Christ Church where the Whig-Radi cals had a majority of seventy-one, the increase on the re• b'ister since 1838 is 111, arising chiefly from houses in John's-wood, and its vicinity, which from their • - •.llie must al so b e i n h a bit e d by th o s e w ho have stine 7 _tn g to lo se ; an d t hi s, coup l e d w i t h t h e f ac t th a t th e ]few Conservativ e ca ndidate has for many years been an habitant of that district, and with the zeal and desire e:xhibited by hi s ne i g hb ours o f th e h um bl e c l ass , w h en the requisit ion to hi m was i n th e course o f s i gna t ure , w ill ensure at a fut ure e l ect i on a l arge majority for the g o od cause.s In North Pancras district, several streets in Somer's T own h ave b een place d on t h e sout h di str i ct sinc e 1 838, and yet the registered electors have increased . o wing to the mass of buildings which has taken place at Camden Town of a respectable class, and which will give the Conservatives there a large majority. If the Reformers w ill take the trou bl e to i nqu i re i n S omer ' s w ;;;vn, where their stronghold was at the last election, it not need a ghost from the other world to tell them ' • Ln. ,, change of o pi n i on amongst th e electors. registration, respect to th e Whig table of the state of the V put forth at the Whig Registration Asso s,,ber Friday l as t, and the utter fallacy of which has c : -, it pr:.•surne.d, rnade manifest to the meanest ea taadt3", it would b ecome t h e Whigs (only they really ve .no consciences in matters political) at once to repudiate it.--confess it is a made-up affair, and express TE-111: Slrg4 their sorrow that such a piece of impudent cajolery was ever attempted." The Committee fearlessly appeal to all honest met 4 of whatever party, which statements Are entitled to the most credit s those of this, or of the Loyal and GonstitiitWnal Association, the latter of NVII oni have clearly obtained money from their itippOrtens under false pretenceS. They envy hot the reflections of those who, either from ignniiince or intention, induced two candidates to come forward for the borough at great personal expense, both of whom, and the cause they eeponse, they have subjected to the most igndtleilliOus dafeat. Reformers, Histinne, ancL if possible, increase your etentions ; and Toryism, under whatever name it may disguise itself, is for ever prostrate in this isOrough. The reading of the deemneilt was received throughout' with loud laughtssis hfict the Hm. Gentleman sat down with thanking the electors, ami Ist much applause. ?sir. POTTER, in a very able and eloquent speech; gave the toast of " Justice to Irelandi", Lord DUNBOYNR rettiffind thanks. He had supported the present representatives for the borough, because he Was one of the people, and because he felt that they *ere the real representatives of the petiple.—(.cud cheers.) He had been the ittiVoeate of liberal opinions and of justice feoin his birth, and he hoped he would continue so till the day of his death.—(Renewei cheers.) He had never doubted the feeling of the pure and independent minded people of England to do justice to Ireland.— (Hear, hears) They .should recollect that Ireland was the vulnerable point with the new Ministry. The Tories. hi his opinion, would never dare to ask the people of England for 20,000 men to oppress the people of Ireland. They would bring forward some frivolous pretext of war, such as the American boundary, but the real ob ject of the levying of new forces would be to put down the free and independent exercise of their rights by the people of Ireland.—(Cheers.) He had no doubt that millions would be demanded for that object in the new Parliament, but if the hearts of the. people of England and their real feelings were consulted, lie did not believe they would vote one thousand for such a purpose. — (Hear, hear-) It had been said that, in order to obtain justice and a fair and full representation in Parliament, they must have the Vote by Ballot.—(Loud cheers.) In that sentiment he fully concurred, and he believed that the only way in which that object could be accomplished was to form themselves, as in the case of the Reform Bill, into a Vote by Ballot Association.—(Loud cheers.) They had seen the advantages of union and combination in the case of the Reform Bill, and if they only exerted themselves in a similar way upon the question of the Ballot there was no question of its being ultimately car ried.—(Loud and general cheering.) Professor KEY said they had assembled that evening to oppose all the powers of bigotry and of Toryism, and to celebrate their triumph over that faction. It was his duty to propose to them the health of a gentleman who was pre-eminently distinguished for his advocacy of the repeal of the Corn-laws and the principles of free trade generally.—(Loud cheers.) It was unnecessary for him to name to them the Hon. C. Villiers, M.P. for Wolver hampton—(Tremendous cheering)—whose health he would propose to them, in connection with that of Dr. Bowring, M.P. for Bolton.—(The toast was drank with great enthusiasm.) Mr. VILLIERS returned thanks. They had conferred a great honour on him in inviting him as one of their guests.—(Loud cheers.) He was now addressing men of intelligence, fresh from achievement of a recent and a great triumph. He was addressing those who had understood the interests of that great country, and who had not betrayed them.—(Loud cheers.) Men who had not betrayed the interests of the country for dirty cus tom—men who had not sold the rights the Constitution had conferred on them because ladies had visited them in their carriages.—(Loud cheers and laughter,) They had done well to assemble together to celebrate their triumph, and, he believed, never had men been selected who could do more honour to the cause than their representatives.—(Loud cheers.) One of them he had known for many years as the steady friend of freedom, and the other all the world knew as the steady champion of civil and political right.—(Great applause.) Honour to them—honour to the electors. — (Hear, hear.) It appeared to him that the constituency of Marylebone was pre-eminently entitled to the grati tude of the Reformers of England fur the part they had taken on the present occasion.—(Hear, hear.) The cause with which his name was connected was embla zoned on their banners—it was the cause of free trade and diminished burdens upon the people.—(Hear, and cheers.) It was the cause of justice and of sound policy, as opposed to selfishness, and monopoly, and wrong.— (Great cheering.) . He thought they had no reason to despair of the ultimate success of that cause ; for his part he never felt more sanguine than at the present[mo ment.—(Hear, and cheers.) It was said that they were beaten, but he claimed it as a triumph, because the pro gress of the cause which he and they advocated had made a considerable advance. Only three years since they could not number 100 in the House of Commons. In 1839 they had had two divisions, in one of them they had had 170, • and in the other 190 ; and now, in 1841, the Government and the Minis ters of the Crown were unable any • longer to resist the pressure of public opinion, and had come forward as the advocates of free trade.—(Tremendous cheers.) They had declared that consistently with their public duty, consistently with their characters as liberal and independent men, they could not continue in office without making an assault upon these monopolies which had so long oppressed and ground down the people. In 1841, then, they had a united Cabinet, declaring that the Corn-laws were based upon injustice—(Cries of " Down with the Corn-laws ")—they declared that the restraints upon British commerce ought to be removed. Nay, more, when the petitions of 800,000 persons were pre sented to Parliament, praying for the repeal of that tax they had determined to dissolve the Parliament and take the sense of the country. Now, what had been the re sult? Their opponents had said that they had achieved a triumph. True, the landed aristocracy of the country had been against them, the West India interest, and every other species of monopoly had been against them, and yet they had had upwards of sixty votes added to their previous number of 220.—(Cheers.) So that if a motion was again brought forward in the new Parlia ment for the repeal of the Corn-laws, they would have 280 instead of 220 voting for the motion.—(Loud cheers.) The cause of the people would ultimately suc ceed. The new. Ministry might last for six years, or for three years— (Cries of " Not for three months ")—but there was no doubt of the ultimate triumph of the prin ciples which they advocated. He begged to thank them for the honour they. had conferred on him.—(Cheers.) Dr. BOWRINO then rose and was received with loud cheering. He said that he saw no cause to despair in the present aspect of affairs. Monopoly after mono poly would give way before public opinion. —(Loud cheers.) The borough of Marylebone had nobly done its duty—(Cheers)—and he congratulated them sin cerely on the victory—(Loud cheering)—but lie be seeched them not to relax in their exertions, or they would suffer as they had before done for their neglect of their duty.—(Cheers.) He stood before them as the representative of a borough which for the first time . since the Reform Bill had conferred on it the privilege of returning representatives had returned two, Re formers—(Loud cheers)—and how had he been re turned ? He had been returned by the enthusiasm of the multitude.—(Cheers.) He had been returned because he had been supported by the power of public opinion. —(Loud cheering.) He owed his triumph also to the support he had received from the non-electors.—(Loud cheering.) He had triumphed in spite of the corruption and intimidation which had been used against him. But the electors must be protected. They must have ,the Ballot.—(Loud cheers.) They would now occupy a new position, and advance the standard of reform.—(Loud cheering.) Out of gratitude to the Whig Ministry, who had done so much for them, they had forborne to press their just claims, but now their motto must be " onward." —(Vociferous cheering.) He congratulated them on the glorious victory they had achieved, and sincerely thanked them for the honour they had done him. — (Loud cheering.) When Dr. Bowring sat down, some confusion was created by the attempts of a foreigner, apparently a Pole, to address the meeting. He, however, in conse quence of the earnest remonstrances of Mr. Backhouse, and some other gentlemen, gave way, and Sir DE LACY Evissis presented himself to the meeting for the purpose of proposing the health of Mr. Alien, the Secre tary to the Reform Registration Association of the borough of Marylebone. The registration was a most important matter to be attended to.—(Cheers.) They could not secure the fruits of the victory, unless they attended to the registration.—(Loud cheers.) The Ministry had intepded to bring forward a measure ,to simplify the re gistration—in fact, they had said so three or four years ago—but from various causes, he was sorry to say, it had been neglected too long.—(Cheers.) They must now no longer look to the Ministry, but must depend upon their own exertions, and upon those of the Liberal press.—(Cheers.) And when he mentioned the Liberal press, he was happy to see a distinguished member of that press before him—(Cheers)—one who had done much in the cause of Reform—(Loud cheers)—Mr. Young—(Loud cheers)—the Proprietor and Editor of The Sun newspaper—(Loud and long continued cheer ing.) He had known that gentleman a long time, and he could speak from his own knowledge, that be was a sincere advocate of the cause of Reform.— (Loud cheers.) He supported Ministers occasionally, na y, generally, but he had the courage to tell them fre quently that they did not act up to the principles which they professed.—(Loud cheers.) In doing this he made manifest his adherence to the cause of the people, and if a Liberal press had acted in that independent -manner the cause of Reform would not have been in its present ' position.—(Cheers.) But they must not despair. 'With a Liberal press,conducted with such spirit as The Sun, and looking closely to the registration, their liberties would be placed beyond the power of the Tories. was sorry that under the Reform Bill they were obliged to go to some expense in these matters, and hoped that that error might be rectifiA—(Loud cheers)—but while that state of things continued, it was necessary that funds should be supplied to those Associations to go on with the work. —(Loud cheers.) It therefore behoved them to contri bute to the support of those Associations. He himself had been unlucky, and lie attributed his ill success to the neglect of the registration.—(Loud cheers.) Urging them, - therefore, to attend to the registration, lie would conclude by proposing the toast.—(Loud cheers.) Major BEVELL returned thanks for Mr. Allen and the Registration Association. Sir CHARLES NAPIER then rose, and spoke as fol lows :—Gentlemen, the Chairman has put into my hands a toast, which I have the greatest pleasure. in pro posing to you—it is, " Mr. Murdo Young, the Editor of The Sun, and the free and unfettered Press."—(Loud cheers.) Gentlemen, I have the greatest pleasure in proposing the toast to iou. About four years ago my acquaintance with Mr. I oung commenced. I called upon him with some papers relating to the British Navy. Those papers were in opposition to the feelings of the Govern ment, which Mr. Young at that time supported, yet lie said to me that his was a perfectly independent and free press, and that he would insert my papers on my own responsibility as IA; its ray name was attached to them.--(Loud cheers.) We 'have hitherto, 115 Re forniers, been accustomed- to rely too much upon the totetnmeilt; We have said the Government is with us, and;, therefore: *6 heed , not o.ert otirseitesl . tkirti , i,however, We must depend for our safety upon our own actions, and upon.a free and liberal pre:,s.-7--(Loud cheers.) I place great reliance upon the ..exertion of a free and liberal press.—(Cheers.) . I would . say, in the words of Sheridan, "Give me a corrupt House of Com mons—(Cries of " You have got it")—a venal House KC tords-=-(eries of " We hate it")—but Five me free dom of the pfessi and I shall not despair of England.- 4;otid cheerS;) We haft dotiliptthits6 of Commons, we have venal aristocracy, but if the edittirg Of the liberal press of'England do their duty I do'not despair. — (Loud cheers.) One word further z.s to the Ballot. Other constituencies many differ as to the efficacy of the Ballot. Some may say it will be a good measure ; others may sits:the etififfhly 1 but We in Marylebone have tried it here---(Cheers)--in this very place where we are now assembled—(Hear, hear)— and have proved it. — (Cheers:) Let me i , therefore, beseech the men of Mary lebone to assemble together—(Cheers)—when the question of the Ballot shall be brought forward—(Hear, hear)—to petition the House of Comthons, to say they have tried the experiment of the Ballot—(Cheers) —and have proved its efficiency—(Loud cheering)—and I shall be most proud to present such a petition—(Continued cheering)—and to hold up Marylebone as an example to the people of England.—(Loud cheers.) I will con clude by proposing Mr. Murdo Young, the Editor and Proprietor of The Sun, and the free and Liberal Press of England.—(Loud and long-continued cheering.) The toast was then drank amidst the loudest applause, with all the honours. Mr. Munn° YOUNG then presented himself to the meeting, and was greeted with loud and long continued cheering. He spoke as follows :—" Mr. Chairman and Gentlemen—l rise to return you thanks for the honour you have done me, more especially for coupling my name with the free anZ unfettered press of England.—(Loud cheering.) I regret that it is not in my power to return thanks for alaiever number of the Liberal press. —(Cheers.) I regret that there are those who were formerly num :bered among the members of the feee and unfettered press of England, who have fallen from their high estate —fallen, like Lucifer, never to rise again.--(Loud cheer ing, and cries of "The Times.") I congratulate you, the Electors of Marylebone, on the glorious victory you have achieved. For myself, it is my, misfortune to be an elector of the degraded potwalloping half-and-half borough of Westminster.—(Cheers and laughter.) You, however, have set a glorious example to the other cities and boroughs of the empire.-- 7 (Loud cheering.) You have not only taken a leaf out of our book, but have stole the book itself.—(Loud cheers.) No matter, the electors of, Westminster are proud to see you such 'apt scholars in the cause of reform by excelling your masters-qLond and long-continued cheering)—and I hope in future. that you will continue firm in your pre, sent course, and no longer play at sixes and sevens with your Members—(Loud cheers)—but return such gentle men as you have this night met to congratulate upon your triumph. For myself, I never doubted the elec tors of Marylebone would do their duty—(Cheers) — and if you will allow me I will mention one simple circumstance . illustrative of that opinion. When Commodore Sir Charles Napier informed me that he was requested to stand for Marylebone, I answered "That's right.—(Cheers.) If they said so they will return you." —(Loud cheers.) He expressed a doubt, but I reiterated my opinion, and offered to bet him two to one that he would be returned.—(Cheers.) Still he doubted, and said They are landsmen with whom I have not yet had much acquaintance—if they were blue jackets I would not hesitate but go a-head at once.—(Loud cheering.) Well, gentlemen, as the steam of enthusiasm rose I in creased my bet, for I had a great ambition to beat the man who had beat everybody else.—(Cheers and loud laughter.) At last I betted five to one, and would you believe it, the her 6 of Syria showed the white feather—(Loud laughter, in which Sir C. Napier heartily joined)—but I forgiVe him. He was out of his element, like a fish out of water—(Cheers and laughter)—and could not " go a-head."—(Cheers and laughter,) " His march was o'er the mountain wave, His home is on the deep,"—(Loud cheers) And the sooner he gets into deep water the better.— (Loud cheers and laughter.) I do not think the press holds that station which it ought to hold in the estimation of the public mind in this country.—(Cheers.) If it did, we should not see those shameful instances of tergiversas tion on the-part of the members of the public press which have lately occurred. But if the Liberal press has a duty to perform in supporting you, you have also a duty to per form in supporting a Liberal press.—(Loud cheers, and cries of "We will.") For rely upon it, gentlemen, that if economy be the nurse of independence, more truly may it be said that independence is the nurse of virtue— Thy spirit, Independence 1 let me share, Lord of the Lion-heart and Eagle-eye, — Thy steps I'll follow with my bosom bare, Nor heed the storm that howls along the sky." But, at all events, although you desert your duty, I will perform mine. —(Loud cheers.) The Sun will always be found in the vanguard of the march of improvement. — (Tremendous cheering.) There is one thing in which we may advantageously take a leaf out of the Tory book. They alwayS support their friends—(Cheers) —and even if they refuse a request the refusal is given cour teously, which is a lesson many of the Whigs have yet to learn.—(Cheers.) The Whigs have rested too long upon their oars.—(Cheers.) They have awakened from their slumbers almost too late.—(Loud cheers.) They derived their power from the people, and they trusted for the continuance of that power to their enemies. —(Loud cheers.) Unfortunately, the Whigs have too long relied upon the forbearance of the Tories, for from the frequent intermarriages among the aristo cracy, they look upon the Tories as part of themselves. — (Cheers.) They have found out their error, and now, in their extremity, they have again fallen back upon the people—(Loud cheers) —and if they will be but true to the people, they have nothing to fear from the Tories.— (Great cheering.) After the eloquent and heart-stirring speeches which you have heard to-night in the cause of freedom, it is not my purpose to dilate upon politics ; but so far as the Tories are concerned, I feel assured we have nothing to fear, for their strength while in Opposition will be reversed when they are in power. In opposition a common bond of union held them together—like a - pack of hounds, eager for their prey.—(Loud cheers.) But when they have seized that prey each hungry aspirant for office will think himself entitled to the largest share, and, depend upon it, there will be lots of competitors. (Loud cheers.) That competition will be their downfal.—(Great cheering and lauehter.) For myself, I have no fears of a Tory Ministry. With an Opposition in the present crisis, according to the eloquent speech of Mr. Villiers, in the House of Com mons, numbering 280, and the great majority of the people to back that Opposition, can it be supposed that the Tories will have much power for harm ?—(Loud cheers.) No ! Let the people be true to themselves, and the Tories are powerless. I must, however, do the Whigs the justice to say, they have certainly had much to contend against. A House of Lords resolved to para lyze their best measures, and a Court, professing Liberal principles, but acting so completely in opposit.on as it prompted by the Tories.—(Cheers.) With such ob stacles it was hard to contend-s--(Hear, hear, hear) — and when brighter days • arose the Whigs were so be wildered with their past reverses that they had not suffi cient courage to look their true position in the face. — (Loud cheers.) This hesitation produced a coldness in the people, and acted as a damper upon their exertions. —(Cheers.) Latterly I know that if they ventured to propose good measures they were threatened with a de falcation of some thirty or forty Members of their own body—professing Whigs, who were in reality more Tory than Whig.—(Cries of " True, true.") In the face of such opposition it would have been mad ness for Ministers, with a majority varying at most from thirty to five or six, to bring forward the measures which the interests of the country demanded.—(Cheers.) This gave the Tories increased courage, and they have pressed their opposition to the uttermost.—(Cheers.) The Whigs then, too late unfortunately, saw their error, and brought forward those liberal measures, which they ought to have proposed long ago. But it is useless now to repine, the strug gle is come, and the cause of the people must eventually triumph. When the Whigs return to power, it must be as advocates of more liberal measures, and a: leaders in the vanguard of reform. Gentlemen, I new take leave of you, returning you my sincere thankS for the lionour you have done me.—(Vociferous cheering.) The healths of the Chairman and that of the - Vice- Chairman were then drank and'acknowledged. - The Chairman then proposed the health of the which was drank with all the honours ; .after.whieh the company adjourned to the ball-room, where the daneiit was kept up with great spirit until a late hour: The ball-room was crowded to excess. FIELD-DAY IN HYDE PARK. —Yesterday morning the first and second battalions of the ji3cots Fusilier Guards had a grand field-day in Hyde Park. A finer or healthier body of men never entered the field, and the regiment went through a variety of evolutions and manmuvres with great precision, concluding with a grand fife de joie. Colonel Hutchison commanded the regiment, and we observed on the ground Colonels Drum mond, Knox, Montague, &c. A sad accident occurred during the manoeuvre, and it is much to be. regretted that the cause of the accident -should have been allowed to exist, namely, the want of properly keeping the ground. Towards the conclusion of the evolutions, one of the aides-de-camp, in galloping from one battalion to the other, unfortunately trampled down two infant children, who were dreadfully injured. They were instantly conveyed to St. George's hospital, where one has since died, and the other lies in a dangerous state. Immediately after the accident, two men from each coM i pany were ordered out to keep the ground clear. _ DEATHS IN THE LONDON HOSPITAL.— On Saturday two inquests were held by Mr. Baker, the coro ner, at the London Hospital. The first concerns d the death of Richard Stevens, aged 12 years. On Friday morning deceased, with some schoolfellows was riding Lehind a timber waggon which was proceeding along the Commercial-road, when the driver went towards them and desired them to get down. 'lhey immediately did so, and while deceased was running to the footpath, he was knocked down by the step of a cart which was passing,• and the wheel passed over his breast before the driver could stop. He was removed to the London Hospital, and died of the injuries in two hours. The second inquest was on the body of David Giles, aged 42. According to the evidence, it appeared that on Friday morning last deceased was employed in digging ice from the vaults of Mr. Rhodes, iu Hackney-road. It was necessary to ascend to the vault from a well beneath, and enter by a trap-door in the floor. Deceased had done so, and was pulling . out the ice to pass it to those below, when an immense quantity above gave way and fell upon him; in conseqwnce, the witnesses skid, of the manner in which deceased had been digging, a great portion of the foundation having been removed. When extricated his body exhibited a shocking appearance, nearly every bone hav ing been broken. He was removed to the above hospital, and died in two hoUrs. Verdicts 01 . ". Accidental death' were re, turned in both cases. • )ON, TUESDAY, JULY 20, 1841. - &NT MAIII THE Eir, - TURKEY. „CirftTI`.ANTINoPI,E, Jerre 27.—The Supreme Council have, after `soints aetibtirhtitio; decided on a diminution of the beenr r e e d tu u r c i ; e t l o to so 2s me ,oo th O in ,o B. o l o ik p e ia m str o e d s e , ra o t r io 2 n s o ii , t o i t t Xt s e d p ra e l i i : n a g il s n w tt . amount of tribute to be exacted Mehemet All. It has ibis ith the Pacha, gives us reason to hope that a permanent pacifica tion may at length be effected between him and the Porte. 'f he weakness of the Government, and the untimely conces sions made to to the Rayah popelations, have, instead of awe kening sympathy and gratitude, only encouraged the latter in the belief that the hour has comb for sbekine off the Turkish yoke. The only cheek upon the vi, knee of the Turkish Cabinets is the respect—no matter from what motive it proceeds-- which is now universally. entertained for the European Powers, and which operates very strongly with the present Ministry, who, though espousing, fir their • own purposes, the views of the U.ema and the fanatic party, care little in reality for anything but their personal interests. Beset with difficulties which it is quite beyond their skill to overcome, they only think, like seamen in ext emity, of helping themselves to everyth•ng within their reach. There now prevals in every department the most desperate indifference to the public service. Places and appointments of all sorts are sold by auction. Malversation and oppression in the provinces are the natural consequences ; but complaints, unless backed by open insur rretien, or strongly seconrk by the rep.essntations of the Eu ropean Consuls, a-e no loner listened to. I h ave before ad- vetted to the endeavours odour Ambassador to ch tek the pro gress of misrule and the tyranny exerc ised against Chri stians in Syria. He is now engaged, ant has been for some months, in obtaining the removal of Asker Paella from Tripoli — g uilt y net only of Oppressing the natives, and defrau din g his troops of their pay, but of the grossest violations of the commercial treaty with England, he has, by lrieing the Turkish Ministers, ar4l the interest of the Valide, contrived to maintain hi uself against all opposition. We shall see if Lord Ponsonby will ul timati ly succeed in displacing him. There has been a fresh issue of paper money during the last week to the amount of fifty million of pias tres, or 500,000/. The new bank -note, the type of which was executed at Paris, is highly ornamented, and w ould not be sli , appearing, and now at 5 per cent. It is said that the old notes will be withdrawn from circulation. easily counterfeited. The e ff ect of this currency is already apparent ; golel is entirely e miuin. Exchange is fatale. The Sultan having addressed himself to th e British Govern ment to know if Lords Palmerston and Ponsonby would be permitted to accept of decorations which he wished to present to them, in acknowledgment of their exertions in his behalf, his Highness Las been informed that her Majesty could not, consistently with the :tiles of the service, give her permission to that effect. The most sinister reports have been in circu lation here for some days past with respect to a conspiracy which is said to have been discovered among the remnant of the Jani,sary corps at Consteritinop:e. Executions are re ported to have taken place and the bodies thrown into the Bosphorus. All these rumours 1 believe to be without eoun dation, and to have been originated by the Greeks, with a view of creating contusion. Expresses have just arrived here from England and Russia. Semtera, JUNE 26.—Some pirates have been seen in the neighhourlicral and chased a large Turkish caique on the 16th ult. to the mouth of the Dardanelles, where she fortunately escaped pursuit. • EGYI"I% ALEXANDRIA, JUNE 2d.—lbrahim Paella arrived here this rnernints from Cairo. On his arrival, he was saluted by the forts and all the shipping in the harbour. he object of his coming here, he says, is to enjoy the benefit of sea bathing. The steamer Nile sailed this morning for Constantinople. She carries with her bilLs fo the amount of 250,000 dollars, as part payment of the Paella's tribute to the Sultan. These bills have been principally furnished by a Greek house hero which a few days ago Lought up the whole of what remained of the crops of gnin aid pulse of last year. St. John's day brought a cessation of the plague as usual. A board of health superintends the plague hero, and their la bours may be set down as obstetrical as well as curative: they bring it in at one season, and announce its departure at ano ther season, meting various ab-urdities from time to time, as tending to eradicate cr remove it ; but the plague comes and goes, and proceeds just as in former years, when there was no board of health. TI e proceedings of this boat d are positively mischievous. Very lately they directed a medical man to be confined .to his house with his family, the board being of opinion that the children had the plague, and the board has power of shutting up people. The children had the measles ! The fleet, the arsenal, and the camp, are declared out of quarantine. Our latest dates at Alexandria are, Bombay, May 22 ; Lon don, 6th ; Marseilles, 11th inst. ; Malta and Constantinople, 17th inst. On the 26th inst. an address from the members of the East India and China Association was presented to the Pasha by Messrs. I3riggs and Cu., of which the following is a copy : "TO lIIS HIGHNESS MEHEMET A LI, PASHA OF EGYPT, &C. " May it please your Highness,—Wc, the undersigned, members of the East India and China Association of London, beg leave to approach your Highness with sentiments of pro found respect, to express how deeply we feel indebted to your Highness for your continual and efficient aid in expediting and seeming the transmission of the Indian mails through your Highness's territories—a measure replete with the g' catest advantage to all interested in India and China—and also for your undeviating and kind consideration for the comfort and safe conduct of British travellers through those territories, more especially as evinced under recent circumstances of great embarrassment and difficulty. " It would not become us to animadvert upon the measures affecting your Highness's interests which have been adopted by the Governments of Europe, but we cannot refrain from ex pressing how greatly we admire that magnanimity which, amidst harassing political events, did not for a moment allow the important mercantile interests of India and Europe to suffer 'inconvenience through the interruption of their correspond ence. It is only great minds—minds uninfluenced by petty jealousies and annoyances, that can act thus, and whilst we trust your Highness will long enjoy the honours you have earned in so distinguished a manner, we beg you will accept of our sincere thanks and the warmest expression of our gratitude for the benefits we have experienced at your hands. " Wishing your Highness long life and happ;ness, we have the honour to subscribe ourselves, &c., - - `, W. Crawford. "Walkinshaw and Co. Gregson and Co. " Jamiesmi, Brothers, and Co. " Barc:ay, Brothers and Co. "Dallas and Coles. " Fletcher, Alexander, and Co. J. Cockburn and Co. " Reid, Irving, and Co. " Curtis and Harvey. " Rawson, Norton, and Co. "W. E. Ferrers. " Small, Colquhoun, and Co. " Grindlay, Christian, and " Sanderson; Fry, Fox, and Co. Matthews. " Gardner Urquhart, and Co. "R. G. J. A. and R. Twining. " Scott, Bell, and Co. " Gledstanes, Kerr, and Co. Finlay, Hod4son, and Co. "J. and B. Fearse and Co. " Hunter, Gouger, and Co. " Durant and Co. " Daniel Dickenson and Co. " Ewart, Maceaughey, and " Evans, Forster, and Langton. Delafosse. " Ccrrie and Co. " W. Burne and Co. " Cockerel' and Co. " Hyde, Lenox and Co. "Arbuthnot and Latham. " Robert Eglinton an Co. " Rickards, Little, and Co. " Alexander Crowe. " Crawford, Colvin. and Co. " Trueman and Cook. " Magniac, Smiths, and Co. " Hulbert, Layton, and Co. " Baring, Brothers, and Co. " Johnson and Renny. " Briggs, Thurbnrn, Acraman, " Archibald Haslie. and Co. " J. M. Richardson. Lyall, Brothers, and Co. " Harper and Co. " London, 1841." " J. Stikernan, Secretary. Up to this date no answer has been given by thc Paella to this address. 'I he Pacha has put off his trip up the Nile. GREECE. ATHENS, JUNE 20. —M. illavrocordato's arrival is announced by all the papers and private letters we have seen. It would appear, accorc ing to many reports, that he was un willing to accept ti.e post to which the King had appointed him, brit that at length he had been persuaded thereto 14 the influence of Prince Maximilian. The new Ministry is thus composed, as we are assured, though the repout is not yet pubislied Mavrocordato President of the Council and Minister of Foreign and Home Affaias. M. Privelegio, Minister of Justice. M. Silivergo, Minister of Finance. M. Valetta, Minister of Public Instruction. Messrs. Creisis and Hess remain in the Cabinet. BARBARY. - - - TuNlc, JUNE 10.-Our correspondent represents the crops as favourable on account of there having been more rain. " A public notary," says our correspondent, " who had been trarrported to the island of Kerkey for forgery,' com mitted the same vile action there. Yesterday he was con demned to receive 200 bastirradoes, and to have his right arm cut off, which sentence NI as immediately put into execution." Ow letter also notices at some length the dismissal of Mr. Gaspary, the British Consular Agent, but we are not informed of the reason, although much is said about the affair. • LAND lA. • (From the Alanzari Shark of June 26.) Several severe skirmishes have taken place in the neigh bourhood of Candia, in which the Greeks have suffered some severe lose. Tahir Pacha had ordered 1,000 regulars to pro.. ceed there immediately, under command . of Vahil Bey, the eldest son of Mustapha The municipal authorites of the city of Canca have just issued an order forbidding all ves,els and boats of whatever description from leaving that port during the night. This is a singnl:r order, since the port of Canea is not included .in the number of those blockaded, but was proclaimed open and free. Taldr Pacha is now cruising off Canea. Yesterday the Con suls paid him a visit on board his beautiful frigate, and were de. lighted with the reception given. The French corvettee Cornalie sailed on the 16th for Alex andria. The Phoenix steamer, on her way from Malta, called in at Soda. She is bound to Syria. At dark to-day (18th) a large sail from the westward, sup posed to be French, was standing in for Suda. (From the Malta Times of July 5.) At the moment t.f going to press, we have reeeir , ..4 a letter and documents minutely tles'erihng the progress of the war from our own correspondent, dated the lith u't. It is suffi cient to say, that notwithstanding the fact, that the Turks have right thousand men in the field, the insurgents are as strong or stronger than ever. Our correspondent (in whom the greatest confidence can be placed) states positively that all the aces of the British Consul Lave been approved of by the Government at home. THE INSURGED, TS TO - THE CHRISTIAN CONSULS ---- GOVERNMENT OF THE CRETANS. THE EXECUTIVE BODY TO THSULS OF HE TH REE GRE AT rowxas, ENGLAI9, E • CON PRANCE, .AND RUSSI "Messieurs,—We have this honour to inform you, that, having come of their own accord, and haviti ir contrary to our exp ectation, the chiefs who were in their dif ferentlrd stations, heard your self prompted friendly counsel to the lately arrived eNiles to forsake their country, and the Chri.- tian inhabitants to repose their 'fullest confidence in the humanity cf Tahir Pacha, we immediately held a council. the result of which ia, thefirmest decision of he Cretan Chris. tians to die rather than forsake our country, or remain any r,CI t his of our ouro, President, England and France, and respect towards you. longer under the T urkish yoke. And, in makin g this known to you, the Consu ls of the above-mentioned Powers. we en pre:,ent deets'on to the t ed r oc e rni agti:ytaoonuci,r, A ee t o rese ; o o vc i e n t it m thi Ale u e scosaEu:.ael a 'CIS n v essels t " H. ROUSOS, Vice-President, " DEMETRIUS CHRESAPHOPOULOS, Sec. " TH. CHAIRETIS. " At A.skiphos, 23d May (June 4th), 1811." - - On dit that the Queen has heard of the vain boast of Sir Robert, that, if he canto into power, he would make her a Tory (a Conservative, Its he -said) in six weeks ; and that the Baronet is, consequently, more dis liked than ever at head-quarters.—Globe. The General Steam Navigation Company's packet Columbine, Captain W. Norwood, from Rotterdam, Also - ,' the Caledonia , from - Hatnbufgoiesterday- morning, with arrived off the C ustom-house, on Sunda y , the Hamburg mail. • the Dutch mail. THE RAJA OF SATTARA. “ I - ce' mtnereced by in - forming the Raja that I had anxiously and carefully considered the whole of the pro- The Anee.._ ceedings in his case, and had, in common with all other assembled l2 0'c10ck,,,.,,,,, authorities to whom they had been submitted, become at _e r ,,,, ee. , fully satisfied that, misled by evil counsellors and low '-1 the debate and interested advisers, he had, on three oreasions, ma man, The debate was resuieete ~- CaPtaill 81.1ifen-Mate, a Director.-11e sae_ eircely nifested hostile intentions towards the British Govern ment. I reminded his Highness of the peculiar circum expecthad now occupied s 6 Midi time that he could J,..... . it possible to find d Any: new topic, bale- 'es under which he was rescued from captivity, and . the British Government with the sovereignty he was anxious to lay before the Proprieten the grounds stein. ' dominions • that this was a pure act upon which he had in another Court done all la hie , invested' by . ... 1,... et of . ..the English Government, power to avert the calamity which they deplored. Much ()%IYel his present . nosrssion, since, owing had already beeh said of the weakness of the evidence of geneecrtiv on the a t he .L 'eishwa, the whole of upon which the Raja had been deposed, but he could not founded fit any right of not help calling the attention of the Court to the fact to the unprovoked hostility but simply that the most important . witness, the one upon whose , the Deccan had become ou r s b y conquest, °ll to testimony most reliance had been' placed, afterwards l from a feeling of consideration and compact. ” deposed that all lie bad said against the Raja was false— ' himself and familv, as the representatives of a fall en that that he had borne false w itness Against him out of re - but once powerful dynasty ; that his Highness must be venge. So also had the Brahmin who was the other aware that, by the conduct he had pursued, he had for principal witness ; he stated subsequently that he was feited all the advantages which he had derived from the the sole author of the plot, and that all his former evi- , treaty of 1819, and in virtue of which he became the deuce was false ; even the Commissioners themselves 1 head of the Sattara, State ; that, notwithstanding, the said he was one of the very worst of characters. Yet British Government were willing, on certain conditions, these were in that Court merely termed discre- to bury the past in oblivion ; and that, at considerable panties ; surely that was an abuse of the personal inconvenience, I had come in person ,to Sattara, word. Another most material thing to be borne in to endeavour to rescue himself and family from impend mind was that the whole of the evidence, such as it was, inn ruin. I informed the Raja that I was his sincere was wholly cx parte, not one of the witnesses were al- friend, and anxiously desired to effect such an arrange lowed to be cross-examined—(Bear, hear)—a thing that meat as would restore friendly relations between the two was wholly unknown and unheard of in this country. It States. Finally, I recalled to his recollection the warn was all ex parte, and many most important facts might ing long ago given to him by his friend, Mr. Elphiestone, be kept back because of there being no cross-examina- against placing his trust and confidence in Vaheels and thin. Under such circumstances it was impossible for low and intriguing agents, and earnestly urged him to them to declare that they were convinced of the g uilt of discard from his counsels the numerous agencies he had the Raja.—(Cheers.) The treatment he met with had established, and entreated him not to throw away this been must unjust—he was d en i e d th e privilege which the the only opportunity which could be afforded to him, for meanest culprit in this country might demand as a right, becoming reconciled to theßritish Government ; for that, In his opinion nothing could justify such harsh and un- he might rest assured, however much his agents might en just conduct. The Raja was not allowed to see the evi- deavour to persuade him to the contrary, that I had come dente given against him, nor was he allowed to call ore invested with full powers to decide finally on all pending single witness in his favour, or to rebut that given against questions, and that the terms which I should offer to hina—Jlear.) It was said that the Bombay Govern- him had already been submitted to, and approved of by, iaent did not bring him to trial because it would lower the Governor-General of India, and that the home au and degrade the Raja in the eyes of his subjects ; but thorities had placed the settlement of all these questions those who used that argunseht seemed to forget that the in my hands, consequently he might fully depend upon degradation had taken place — that there had been a so rt m y having been vested with full powers. of trial by the Commission. It was impossible for them " Durin g this address, which I delivered firmly but to give credit to such a reason. Now, what was the al- in conciliatory language, the Raja evinced a con ternative held out to him ? They would not give him siderable degree of impatience, and frequently inter a fair trial because it would degrade him in the eyes ru p ted me b y .abru p t declarations that he had committed of his subjects • ; but they called lipom him to acknowledge no breach of alliance.. When I had concluded, he stated himself a traitor—if he - failed or hesitated to do that that he regarded me as his friend and well-wisher ;. as ha was to he deposed and banished. Nothing had caused serted that the accusations against him originated in the him so much regret as that when Lord Auckland, Sir R. intrigues of his enemies ; that as long as the British Grant, and the whole Council in India, recorded their Government entertained the idea that he had cherished opinion, that the Raja ought to be heard ; that wise re- hostile designs he could agree to nothing, but this idea solve was departed from, inerely because the Res i d ent at being removed, he would agree to anything I proposed ; Sattara said it would be inconvenient—that at the eleventh that he would consent to anything, except to abandon hour so evidently just a course should have been departed his religion or to acknowledge that he had been our from.—(Cheers.) He was: unwilling to detain them by enemy ; that he would receive my conditions, reply to reading long extracts, but lie was most anxious that it them, and vindicate his conduct generally. Finally, he should be seen that hewas not over-stating the case. lie observed that if I had not leisure to attend to him per would therefore refer them to the minute of Sir H. Grant senally, he could communicate what he had to say through of the 31st May, 183 S— the Resident. elt w ill b e asked, however, whether he is to be con- "In reply to this, I repeated my former observations, demned without the opportunity of defending himself. and said that I had come not to prolong, but to termi- The Raja has not been told of the evidence taken ,by nate these. discussions, which had now occupied a space Lieut.-Colonel Ovens, and undoubtedly has a right to of three years, and which had ended in satisfying the be heard in his own vindication. I have never meant highest authorities, that his Highness had repeatedly k that he will vindicate - violated the terms of the the treaty he had entered into otherwise, although I do not thin Sat himself successfully. In my minute of the 15 th August, with the British Government ; that, had I come to Sat -1837, ' I am farther strongly of opinion, that before the tara to inflict the penalty incurred by these violations of case is conclusiVely disposed of, the Raja should be made the Treaty of 1819, further inquiry might perhaps have acquainted with the fresh evidence which has been been considered expedient, but that as I had come to elicited against him, and should be allowed the oppor- overlook, and not to punish, this was quite unnecessary. tunity of offering defence or explanation.' I repeat that 'liecase moreover, against his Highness having been opinion ; not meaning that there should be merely the estlished by a chain of evidence, both oral and docu form or farce of a trial, to be closed by a ready-made mentary, which, from the manner and circumstances judgment, but that the defence should be fairly heard under which it was obtained, could not, in my opinion, and impartially weighed. 'So far as this Government by any possibility be materially shaken by any other should be called to decide on that defence, i'.., would be evidence, and all that I should require from his my honest endeavour to discharge my mind of all my Highness was, that henceforward he would act previous opinions on the subject, and to judge the case strictly and in good faith according to treaty as if I heard it for thefirst time. But if it be thought that with the British Government, and assent to two or the Bombay Government is too strongly prepossessed three other conditions rendered necessary by the with the guilt of the Raja to be placed in the chair of detection of his misconduct. These observations were judgment over his Highness, let the Government of at intervals supported by Mr. Anderson, who informed India constitute, in any manner which they think fittest, the Raja, that the evidence produced against him an impartial and competent judicature for the occasion." was so strong and convincing, that the highest Could anything be stronger than that? That was the authorities in India had, without exception, con opinion of Sir R. Grant. He would then refer them to that curred in thinking that the penalty prescribed of Lord Auckland, in the last minuterecorded by him upon in the fifth 'article of the treaty should be en that question. In a minute dated 29 t h December, 1838, forced against him, and that he strongly advised his his Lordship said— Highness to attend to the friendly suggestions of the "The reasons urged by the Resident, and concurred in Governor, who had come to Sattara to give him a second by the Governor in Council, are sufficient to satisfy me, time the raj which he had justly forfeited. that it would not be right to persevere in the course "It was with deep mortification and regret that I re which I had previously recommended, and to present to marked that these observations produced no effect what the Raja a written statement of the charges and the ever on his Highness. In order, therefore, that he proofs against him, calling upon him for an answer. It might at once become fully apprised of all the conditions is anticipated by the Resident, that this course would lay of the proposed amnesty, I deemed it advisable to put the Government open to such proceedings on the part into his hands a Mahratta memorandum, in which they of the'llaja and his advisers, as could only lead to fresh had been embodied. Having perused this, and apparently embarrassments, and would, at the same time, expose with great earnestness, the Raja returned the memoran every witness whose evidence has been given to cruel dum, and at once said he would not agree to my condi persecution. tions, asking me to mention what violations of the treaty " The course which has been next recommended as lie had been guilty . of. He was then informed, that open to the Government is, the suspension of the Raja three important violations of the treaty had been proved from his functions of sovereignty, and the appointment against him : of a commission to sit in judgment upon him. The sus- " Ist. Of the fifth article, in having, during a series pension of a person so placed as is the Raja of Sattara, of years, held improper communications with the Goa against whom a strong prima facie case has been authorities. established, and whose conduct appears from every re- " 2d. Of the same article, in having held a Glandes- i port to be unscrupulously vindictive, seems, in the event 1 tine intercourse with Appa Sahib, the ex-Raja of Nag of a new trial to be decided upon, to be essential to the pore. protection of witnesses, and to the fairness of proceeding " 3d. Of having tampered with the native officers of on the part of the accusation. Yet the measure.would the 23d Regiment of Native Infantry. wear a harsh appearance, and be argued as a predeter- The only observation made by his Highness related urination to convict. Notwithstanding, however, these to the second of these charges, and was very remark ' objections, it appears to be essential, as a preliminary , able. My conviction being, that the Raja felt at the to any proceeding bearing the character of a final trial." 1 . moment conscious of his guilt, I had stated that some " I would, therefore, submit these observations, by • of Appa Sahib's original letters had fallen into the the steam-packet now under preparation, for the irnin,!- . hands of the British Government, and inquired whether diate orders of the Honourable Court,—requesting their lie could deny the fact of those letters having been sent attention to the opinions which I have indicated; and to him. He did not deny, as would have been natural soliciting such instructions as may be deemed expedient on the supposition of innocence, but evaded a direct to communicate, for the guidance of the •Locsl'Govern- ' answer by observing, that ' The circumstance of re ment, on the points to which they relate, as well as on ' ceiving letters did not constitute guilt on the part of all others connected with the mode of trial—if a final him who recived them. A letter from a person does not trial should be judged proper—and with the policy to be i establish guilt against the party to whom it is addressed. observed, in the event of the Raja being found guilty. Where are my answers ? There is Mr. Anderson : he The Court may, if they deem it fit, forward their in- may receive a letter ; but this would he no proof that he structions direct, so as to save time, to the Governor-in- answered it, or that he committed any fault in receiv- Council at Bombay, in whose anxiety, for a complete ing I closed this conference by informing the Raja that t.' and early . settlement of the question, they will, no doubt, " fully participate." the Resident would wait on him the followi n g da y , with That affirmed positive proof that his Lordship thought a correct written statement of the conditions. on which , there ought to be a trial-of some kind or another, and friendly relations between the two states could alone be that the ex parte inquiry was not sufficient. He had restored, and that his Highness would be required to already alluded to the evidence given against the Raja, sign these, as a supplement of the Treaty of 1819. The he would therefore only say that it was of such a nature daja assented to receive the Reeident ; and when he was that it must fail to convince any one whose mind was about to take leave I again earnestly exhorted him seri not prejudiced against the Raja. The sham treaty ously to reflect on the consequences of his rejecting the wqs so absurd that no ene looking coolly very moderate terms offered for his acceptance, to discard at it, would for one moment believe it. .It was quite the crowd of interested agents now in his confidence, and clear, however, that Sir Robert Grant believed it, but warned him that if he rejected my terms he could only that might be accounted for from the fact of their being I blame himself for iag wh e t ate he Raja madever might be th ae kind of apology result. On step at that time very c onsiderable excitement in the west of ping into his carr India— probably' he might be alarmed that the Russians for the discussion he had occasioned ; but turning towards were just about to land upon him. At the same t ime, in the Resident, and looking at the paper, of conditions con sequence of what hail fallen from a Gallant Friend of which he had returned to the Resident, he observed— his,, he felt bound to say,t;i:.'t never did any man go to ' Y eh Kaghuz oopur toomko izar howengee ;' which was than Sir Robert Grant. interpreted to signify a threat, that he (the Resident) India with more pure intentions would he injured on account of that paper. —(Cheers.) anything he . " A very considerable change occurred in the Raja's General LODWIeIe begged to withdrae: manner and demeanour towards the end of this inter had said to the contrary. 'l ent view. When we first met he was cheerful , and embrac ed Captain SHEPPARD was glad he had given his G a.. me and all the gentlemen present with apparent cordi lity. Friend an opportunity of e x p lainin g , for the remarks As the debate progressed, however, and more which had fallen from him h ad g iven him much p a rti e edarly , towards the close , he became sullen and pain. He bore testimony. to the uprightness of his cha qloomy, and spoke but l ittle, and it seemed that he had, ratter ; but at the same time he felt bound to deprecate for the time, entirely lost command over , his. feelings. his conduct on that subject. He had treated the evidence From the result of this, my first interview, I almost as a lawyer in the Temple would have done ;but that despaired of accomplishing the object of my visit to was not the way in which In dian evidence was to be Sattara." looked at. His worthy friend, Mr. Tucker, to whose There he asserted that the charges had been distinctly evidence and honour all would bow— ( llear, hear) —had proved. Let tnem turn to page 303, and they would given them instances which had come under his own find the following: — knowledge, where documents had been forged, and even " The information required under the first head will seals affixed to them. There was no proof of guilt, e but be best afforded by the following translation of the there was strong presumptive proof of the innocence of. . the Raja was required to the Ra, , a. It was made the strongest paint against him, . Mahratta memorandum, which R • that he had D:. Milne and numerous Vaheels in various sign. been received by the British Infermation haeing., parts. NQw lie thought that was conclusive proof of his - Government, that your highness , misled by evil adviser innocence Every one had agreed in sayfng that the had, - in . •hre - 't: ch'i?f the treaty which plated you on the Raja had great cleverness and ability. Now he would throne ; entered into c ommunications hostile to the Bri ask would it be the act of a clever or an able man to tish Government, tai inquiry into these accusations was protection. make so many depos!tlries of such dangerous secrets ? Would it not rather :be the act .of a medman? What considered indispensable. Tide inquiry has satisfied the British , Gbvernment' that your Highness has was his letter to Dr. Milne more than saying that he . ;Leurse to rile • sacrifice d of its alliance';antl exposed considered lie had to complain of a great grievance, and he wished the Doctor to proceed to London and appeal Nevertheless. iii Tve by l consideratious of ,clemency to on his behalf to the head authority for redress? Was N V v e a r i ; i t ni youren thas r 6e :Il i a: , : : t i re your i family, 016 ' 'British Go that a proof of guilt? Nay, but was it not a convincing . & to - overlook what has past, on the following conditions" Re, proof of innocence? Another strong proof of the fel- . That made . it evident that -c. lacy of the accusations , was the circumstance of the the Raja was called upon to sign a document sham treaty with Goa—a treaty that would' deeply iin- ;guilty ' '4le first condition of which was to plead plicate the Portuguese Government there. Why, then, Yet they were told thethatt to the charge of treason. did not Don Manoel retain it ? Was it not extraordi- signing of that document did not involve a confession nary that it should be entrusted to a native of India to e ot the document was drawn of guilt. The preamble carry about with him? Such a thing was improbable, well suited for a guilty up in a manner that was for if the Raja were insane, Don .A.lanoel was not. The ing his innocence i man, but ill suited for one know-_ whole matter was absurd. Why, two of the witnesses the Raja placed in by lilt a situation were the friends of were persons who were actually flying from justice at . the conduct of the Governmen.: ,— they were coin the time—men who not only got money for their hatched f . compelled to wish that he had been a traitor, that stories, but procured their own safety. He would d. ask or, in case, he would still be Raja.—(Hear, hear-) The proceedings of the Bombs Government were dis- y whether any -Hon. Proprietor would call that a iscr pleasinalike Direc pancy? What would be thought of such evidence in g to Lord Auckl and andthe Court of tors aswas vernor this country? Again, was there ever such a thing seen , proved by the Minute of the Go Gen ' ' as a public document like the treaty being put up to ~ Theeral of anxious and auction? It was a disgraceful proceeding, and was . grave inconveniences of a course intrigues of eventually knocked . down at 400 rupees. Was not minute scrutiny into the possible and.. the native - - plots b obvious . The futility that ridiculous? Why the Raja would have given of the states are indeed very odivversion of time and 40,000 for the document, had it been genuine , schemes themselves, and the better ob- He felt ashamed and sorry that our Government should attention, in the search after them , from the • that need not be' insisted have entered into such a transaction, that they shauld jects of Government, are points dw ell on the unworthy have lowered themselves so far as to send emissaries all.- on. Nor can it be necessary to ind intricate ramifica over the country.—(Hear, hear.) Such conduct would labour of following out the pettytile questionable expedi not, in his opinion, be justified, even if Russia was on cations of such intrighes, or o l n in the effort to expose the the border oi . India ; what then could be found to justify ents which must be employeocf proceedings covered with it now ? It was argued that the Raja must be guilty, be- true meaning and intentioln would more strongly fix at cause the Bombay Government were in his favour. True mystery and obscurity hich seems to be justly dreaded from it was so at first, but when their conduct was found fault tendon on the effectr . ' kind, by the Honourable Court, with by the Indian Government, they said their conduct, inveetigations of t characterns of our Government for modera their character was at stake ; and froth that moment they of injuring the eoh In this instance of the Sat laid aside their former fair and honourable conduct, and tion, security, •TicL r as observed by me in a former Mi en they did was for the purpose of clearing themselves. tarn affairinvestigation.s, of no real importance to our power, He would then come to the amnesty, and he must say cute ' ' in f an mistrust:and insecurity, on the part of the Bri that it was so drawn up that no man who was honest, no the idea o ient, may have been spread from o f the tish Governe man who was innocent, could possibly agree to it. and Malabar.' And, after all these evils and Some persons had said that it did not involve a cotes- to shallMadrae have been incurred. and the investigations are sion of guilt, but he begged to refer Hon. Proprietors to risks length brou ght to a close, when all is probed and de the account of the first interview the Governor, ir J . Sir j at len t , tectcd, and laid bare, the serious practical difficulty re- R. Carnac, had with the Raja. They would find it there aims by w hich we must in this case, though perhaps, stated-- . m ' • 1 •rcumstances, in a less degree than on feeon incidental c. " The Raja came to the interview accompanied by a Other occasions, be embarrassed. It being known that small retinue. The interview was strictly private. No t h e secret has been discovered, it mayha be impolitic not one was present on the part of his Highness ; for , b y his to take notice of that, hch d we continued own request, the only person who came with him was in real or affected ignorance of it, we should have sus ordered to leave. Mr. Anderson, Lieut.Golonel Ovans, tatted no harm. Yet, by what process, and with INDIA HOUSE.—ifoNDAY. -ned Meeting of the Proprietors again George Lyall, Esq., M.P., Chair ' by a - id Mr. Willoughby, were present throughout this con ference. ikIORNINGSUN. what impression upon the pi bli c mind, is the guilty state to - be tried, condemned and p un i s h e d ? When a great Government, like that of the British in India, di rects -its vengeance, however justly, against a helpless dependent neighbour, and when it cannot avoid the ap pearance of being prosecutor and judge in its own cause, we must not be surprised if its motives and actions are misconstrued. And how can a suspected Prince be fairly tried in his own dominions if left in the posses sion of sovereign power ? Yet, can he be- brought to trial, without at least the plausible imputation of preju dice and injustice, after the open ignominy of a deposi dor, however avowedly provisional and temporary ? Iney said the proceedings were a waste of the public time ; but they, wishing only to exculpate themselves, went on with the inquiries even against the orders of their superiors. The whole conduct of the Raja showed his innocence. He was told what the penalty would be, yet he merely said he was innocent, and that, as they had given the country, they might resume it ; all that he wis , ,s - al was the friendship of the English, and that they should ~s , n vince themselves that he was worthy of their confidence. Was that the language of a guilty man ? Now, as to the character of Appa Sahib, whom they had placed on the ttl:*une, he had embodied his views in the dissent lie had put on the Mintiles . ; and he was anxious to show that lie hat; not come to, his conclusions upon light grounds. In page 233 they w,euld find the character of the present Raja drawn by S.r R. Giant, and upon these passages he had founded his opinion of Appa Sahib. A Pnoenir.Ton—Dead the 12th paragraph. "'The paper is' vaguely written ; but it contains one statement, eriminatory both of the alleged writer .end the Raja, which deserves attention. In reference to We two agents whom it is understood that the Raja was about to depute to England, the writer says :---- 4 Tites Raja gave copies of the treaty and ether papers to Syuct Meer and Ibrahim, and instructed them thus Repre sent first to the Court of Directors in England. `There, should it not be effected according to our desires, repre sent to the King's durbar. There, if it should be de cided that we have full powers in our own country, aud that the Bombay Council should have no sovereignty nvcr u, it is good ; if not, communicate with the Roos walla ( Russians) and adopt means for their - army to come down here.' Haying said so, and having prepared a foul draft of a yad of stipulations to be passed to ti.c Roos walla, my brother put his sign-manual on it, and made me put mine. Had I not put it, he would that moteent have taken my life. Out of this fear I put it ; ;Ina I became fully persuaded that moment, that by such cets the Raja would not continue.' " In weighing the claims of this statement to our be lief, it is impossible not to observe that there are two circumstances which, taken by themselves, materially detract from its credit. First, the writer acknowledges that enmity has long existed between himself and the Raja. Day by day,' he says, the enmity of my bro ther has been increasing, for he suspects me of being in combination with the British Government.' Secondly, he anticipates the possibility of the Rsja's dethrone ment, and avowedly aims at succeeding him. •If my brother,' he observes, has done anything wrong, that it may be forgiven out of mercy, and that the raj be continued firm, is my only Wish. Perhaps, in order not to continue my brother on the raj, if an • arrangement be co ntemplated, I am an heir, and I am not concerned in any improper acts ; if my b rother has done any, there fore, the British Government will place me on the throne.. I have this confidence.' " With such powerful inducements to lead him to the crimination of the Raja, the statements of Appa Sahib (for Ido not doubt that he is the author of the docu ment) must be received ,with considerable reserve. In truth, among the numerous witnesses whose testimonies stand recorded against the Raja, Appa Sahib is the only one who speaks clearly on the side of his own interest. In the case of the rest, if any has existed, the presump tion from their position and circumstances is, that it was a bias in favour of his Highness. The brother, actuated by the double motive of ill usage to resent, and of a throne to gain, cannot be considered an impartial witness.." Captain SHEPHERD then proceeded " Having stated fairly the considerations which thus tend to discredit the statement of the Prince, it is my duty to point out; with equal candour, the circum stances that tell in its favour. Let it be bserved, then, that the Prince freely criminates himself as well as his brother. True, he extenuates the act which he con fesses ; but he must have felt that his confession, even thus quailfied, could not but place him in a situation of very serious hazard. The presumption, therefore Would seem to be, that some letter of the sort described by him was in existence when he wrote, and that it was out of his own power ; and, if so, we can hardly suppose that he would commit himself on a false allegation of its having been signed by the Raja, which allegation the production of the instrument would instantly confute." Now he submitted that that did not make out much for his friend's argument. It was said that Sir Robert Grant was not the author of some of these statements, but with that he had nothing to do. It was not his busi ness to make up these deficiencies. Again, in paragraph 13 he found these words : " If, on the other hand, we suppose that the Raja is here falsely accused, then we must hold, either that no instrument of the sort existed, and that Appa Sahib's statement is wholly false, or else that the instrument existed, but, together, with the Raja's signature, had been forged by the person who refers to it. But, on either of these suppositions, why should Appa Sahib accuse himself of treason, as well as the Raja ? If he forged the instrument and the Raja's sig nature to it, why should he gratuitously add his own ? If there existed no such instrument, and the whole story is a fiction, why should it be part of the fiction, that he himself partook in the crime Imputed ? He would rather have pretending that the Raja had ear nestly solicited him to join in the treason, but he had nobly resisted the solicitation.". He now came to the coufication of the Raja's property. He maintained that the cash, which amounted to six or seven Ja.cs of rupees, was distinctly private property, and on no public grounds whatever should it have been confiscated.—(Hear, hear.) ' He would say the same with respect to the Raja's flocks and herds, and other property : . " The Raja did submit peaceably ; and, confiding in the assurances conveyed to him through the Resident, he left in the Palace the whole of his treasure, and other property, with the exception of the jewels belonging to his two ranees, estimated at the value of two lacs, which they were permitted to take with them, and which the Court state that they were very properly allowed to retain. " The melancholy result of the Government's profes sions, and the Rata's confidence, has been the confis cation and transfer of the whole of his property to his successor." There was a direct pledge given that his property should be respected, and he regretted that Sir R. Grant had not acted considerately , and in conformity with that pledge, instead of making over all the property to his successor. He did not think they could Justify that breach of a solemn engagement by any arguments what ever. He feared he had detained them too long. He deeply deplored that the present discussion had taken place, and that the Directors had taken so contrary a view of the question. It had always been the practice of the Court to interfere on behalf of the natives of India.—(Hear, hear.) He would stake his reputation upon that fact. In his experience of their proceedings, they had been anxious, on every occasion, to do justice and maintain their authority in the most conciliatory manner. He was sorry, in this particular case, that, for the sake of maintaining the Governor's authority, they should have allowed themselves to confirm the Gover nor's deposition of the Raja ; although, up to the eleventh hour, their opinions had been in his favour.— (Cheers.) They had sent him a:present of a sword, and had distinguished him above all the Princes of India. The next point was the reflection that his Hon. Friend opposite (Mr. Warden), had cast upon his Hon. and . Gallant Friend General Lodwick. General LODWICK said the Chairman had kindly.pro inised that he should have an opportunity his conduct.—(Hear, hear.) Captain SHEPHERD resumed. He admired the ma d n i l s y of explaining integrity which his- Hon. and Gallant friend hadfound. played when he was convinced of his error, and ed the East India Company would a t a n -s at the sake of that he had reason for changing his OpiciioTavile eoffitrcuesrts who would he ready to do justice e 'With regard to the consistency.—(Much cheering.) motion that had been Friend, he need not say that t but with regard to the speci fic in unison with i o t s ; p e d he feared that the Act ohh su b mhii t a te f d ee t l o ing tl s ie N n v i ere ba t - o l t i a is lly H a u n n d . d r decisions. He Court no effect—" That the facts of the case did adlcetritaligeyesrvevraerycht,7:bot embodied gave the Court no Dcmwer of a ltering or varvmi) thei amended, to it justify, &c.," and then to confine there not suffi ci . ent Y j a il. ' remedy. It would not be becoming in fiP li ca e rremedyl wouldianlenti undert that4 li ‘ e r e r P't e 11) suggest that the motion should be selves to a general 1 'ln to support a motion which would look like an infeirige. . h e law. In its present shape he could not vote for silent ca s t a i n nto on a t but he should vote for a general recommenda tteelxiin°thloenilaja'a fay i our. He believed Many H_on. Gentle on the other slue of the bar had misunderstood the m en statements ofwthbeetCthh,ayirisna.aildt hadand .hl)eeepnutt• construedChainn threat, but ho believed their meaning was that when so illegal a motion eae carried, it would arm th e enem i es of the Compa n y with a proposition for the curtailment of the privileges of the Company, and- he feared the mo ment that was done the power of that Company would be speedily at an end.—(Hear, hear.) A PROPRIZTOR, whose name we were unable to learn, said the question before the Court was, not whether the Bombay Government had acted wisely, but whether they had acted justly, and whether, under all the circum stances of the case, any injustice had been done the ex- Raja.—(Hear, hear.) lie confessed, that looking through the whole of the papers and the evidence that had been taken, he could not see that there had been any injustice done him, for the evidence was strong and conclusive against him.—(Hear, and No.) His traitorous inter course with the Governor of Goa had been proved in such a manner as to convince the most hardened unbe liever. The evidence had been read 'through by Sir R. Grant. and his opinion on it was recorded. It was com plained that the evidence was ex parte, •but how could it be otherwise. the " ephpeeearasgafiraoamt time ee Baja m. Commission's s f i iiy p e r Z e p e la ed in in ed gs lo ti l t Highness ; and it is quite clear that his Highness under stood the nature of the charges preferred against him, by his endeavouring, however u nsatisfactorily, to exonerate himself from theta. The Commission further offered to confront the Raja with his accusers, but he declined." He 'believed: there was a deep anxiety on the part of the British Government to screen the Raja from the con sequence of his misdeeds. Any person who read para graphs, 8,9, 10, 11. and 12, page 68, would be con vinced of the truth of that statement. " A regard to character, if not our own feeling, pre scribes that legal rights should be enforced with mo deration; and that mercy should temper justice. so far as appears, the crime of the Raja, though amount ing to treason, was in a practical sense 41elioat? ; justice,