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could be stated to him he felt . bound with.all deference too ithe Right; Honourable•.Gentlernan opposite, who bad made the statement he had,. -not • to give credit to it.—(Great ; c h e eri n g.)—With all the respect that was due to what was stated by Gentlemen in Office, at the head of the Go vernment, he confessed if there were anv grounds for the assertion that had bean made, such grounds were unknown to hint and to his colleague., with most - of whom he had conversed. --(Hear, hear, hear.) Mr: STURGES BOURNE entirely agreed with his No ble Friend who,had spoken. - He could not give credit to the statement`that had been made on a former night in that House ; end it was with utter, astonishment he had heard such a ;tatement made, particularly as it was coupled with a sort of sarcasm and inntempt, in referenee to the Noble Lord - Win) had. been at the head of the Government. (Hear. allusion also to the statement of the squabble that had taken place in the Cabinet when the Right Hon. Geut/tinan - left it, he (Mr. S. Ti.) was in it, and lie could say, that in' -the * Cabinet itself there• were neither struggles nor squabbles; 'Whatever took place of that sort was- solely between the Right Hon. Gentleman and his Colleague ---(Hear, bear.)—Fle was in the country at the time, and knew nothing of what passed, but us it was Con veyed to him by the public ,papers. Sir JOSEPH YORKE—Haiing heard the explanation given to night, and having read the statements made on the former occasion,' not having been present then; he had come to the conclusioo thit the Gentleinen'who were in office during the last Administration must have been a set of the greatest children he had ever known.=--(Great, cheering and continued langhter. )—lf the manner in which those Gentlemen conducted themselves was to be the way in . which Gentlemen -at the head of a Government were to act, the Hon. Member for Aberdeen had much better set aside the expellee of a Government altogether.— ( H eao o)—s to meeting in Cabinet, that was perfectly unnecessary. He would ask those Gentlemen themselves whether they had ever, heard of a Cabinet having been broken up, without the great body of . the Members knowing the grounds on which the dissolution took i ilace? Was it to be credited that 'a few of them should break up the Administration,, that the head of the Government should go to the King, and that he should my to the Duke of Wellitigton—" - These chaps have done their own work—go yotr, and form another Government." sir Joseph was extremely sorry to hear such a lame ex planation from his Right Hon. Friend ; he thought he would have come down better charged ; he never heard a more round-about story in his life. It did appeaf to him that the Government had been broken up for no earthly purpose whatever, but because of a little jealous feeling between the Right Honourable Gentleman and his colleague, and •if that were so,' really the sooner the Duke of Wellington turned him outof oft/ cethe better. Sir J. APDON.ALD had heard with astonishment the Right Hon. Gent's. adhesion to charges made against some person or persons unknown. Looking at the nature of those harges, he would ask whether it was decent to the House— ,lecent to the public, that such charges should be preferred and not substantiated. 'He called the Howe to iool'ff at the quarter to which such chargeS could apply. .k's far as he had been able to understand the Right Hon. Gent's statement, he felt disposed to acquit the Noble Lord and therefore it insist be considered, that for the shabby pretext, and as a stalking-horse to the overthrowing of the :.ast Government, be - had resorted to the course he had. The Right lion. Member, however; 'on behalf of ohose Gentlemen to whom the charges might be supposed apply, took the liberty of throwing back in the teeth of the Right Hon. Gentleman such accusations ; and he Would tell him, that if he expected to receive the support of the public either as Chancellor of the Exchequer, or in any other inferior office; that so far from shrinking from explanation, he must come boldly forward to substantiate :the charges he had made of the deepest die. Mr. HERRIES would say a few words, but not with the -Jim certainly of altering the_ determination be had ex prsed of not entering into any disclosure of matters. —(Lost in laughter and confusion).--When he rose on a former occasion, it was not uncalled for or gratuitous, as an Honourable Gentleman had chosen . to characterize it ; and how such an assertion could have been wade, was to him matter of the greatest astonishment. He - , ..743 called upon by the Noble Lord opposite, and how could his coming forward be gratuitous? After the call rhat had been made on him, he came forward in rind iett- Lion, and could not have done otherwise without leaving on itcharacter.an imputation it did not &terve. On that occasion be was called upon to explain transactions in hie h he, had himself borne a part, and in which lie had been wisrepresented in the part he had borne ; and' be 'felt r.:ertain that in the explanation given respecting the steps ~hat had been taken between blank and his colleague, be iween the 2d or thl of Decetnber last, and the Ist of the same month, that be had satisfied, and removed every ...-apressien from the mind:pc •every fair and Honourable _Member, 'that any thiOg' had 'existed on his part but that which was tO be ransi;''ered fair • otnd- proper. (Louth cries 0f.." NO,l no, no.")—He hail asserted, 4. 4 nd he would assert again-and again, that it was not right ' state that his resignation from. office caused a diosolution of the late Government. He made this atatentent, and be who'd 'continue to assert the fact, becaUse he was 'as certain of the truth of it as any M3ll could possibly he : certain of any rho elision drawn from the most palpable grotindo.—.(eries of No, - nii:) He insisted' that he knew it tobe iinpossible that sash a circumstance could Lave been unaccompanied bV other and infinitely mere iniportant. rainiest, the reason of that Government being dissolved. The Hon; Gentleman opposite had said lie did not give credit to his (Mr. Her 7 o iea's) former statement, by which lie understood - him to -node that he was not aware of any other cause that' could ive, or was likely to have, produced the dissolution, n. saver to which he could only say, that lie did not be tieve that any man in this kingdom who had paid atten tion to the public events that . were poising, could have as well as himoelf, though perhaps he knetv a little more than some of them, respecting • saute of the aubjects. (Great laughter.)--The House came re the same conclusion, that it was impossible hut that the other causes-which were - in operation must have produced a moat .material effect on-the diecolution of the Govern .-:rent nay, more than, this, those who undettook to give an account of the dissolution, and who mentioned his re signation as the immediate cause' of it, connected, ,00wever, with other circumstances, were bound to' have oiven all- the ceases. They ought to have described (K , - . itiotly what those other circumstances were. , They ought to het-given a fair and full description of all the operative causes,* He would ask the Member opposite, whether lie , himself did not , know of other (woes thgt had a powerful' operation in the dissolution ? Mr. W. WYNN declared, as the question itt4 hen put so him, that he knew of no other cause on earth. fio far from it, he verily believed there was none, and that the o olaism between the Right Honourable Gentleman and the Secretary of State for the Colonies, was the sole and imme diate cause of it. He could on no account whatever have/ supposed, that after what the Right lion. Great. had stated on the 1 9th he meditated sending in his resignation on the 21st. The conduct of the Right Hon. Gentler,-.w within a few days of his resignation had unquestionably a em i oes t him, and lie had no doubt deceived others.. Lord NORMANBY'said thathewoold not then stop to inquire how far the Right lion. Gentleman natg;;J• deem ;t consistent with his— oharaeter as a Minister of the Crown to throw out insinuations ;against some of ti:e Member; of . the pre ceding Government, and refuse to sub stalatiate them when cal l e d upon. (Cheers.).ll e woo ld l eave him to the benefit of that opinion of his conduct which he Yalta have . gathered, from all - sides of th e , H 0n5e....... (Land eleering.)—To- him, (Lord NaToaziltii it ap- A:eared as if the Right Hon. Gentleman was as incapable of understanding the questions put to him, as he app e a re d to be incapable of giving an mower which could be under stood by any body else. The question which was put to the Right lion. Gentleman was not that to which he had volunteered an answer. He had never been charged -, 7 ith that to w hi c h h e had thought pro r to give a reply. The question asked was this—How far the Right Hon. Cien pe olenaort was prepared to concur with the statement r nade by the Noble Lord, that lie had on three several 'occasiorv4 varied the ground of his objection to the appointment of the Nohk' Lord sa Chairman of the Committee, and also teat he had allowed the Noble Lord to re main for thre e weeks tinder the impression that he was perfectly satisfied---aud if so, how he came to persist in the tenor of his original letter, of breaking up , the Adminis- tration ? . • lab our i ng under Mr. BERRIES ateil rose: apparently ' feelings very consider abl i excited: but f rom the noise in ' the House we could no t hear the first senten ce. With respect to the delay, he had, he said, already expl a i ne d that most fully and most satisfactorily. With respect to the ch a r g e of shifting his grou nd of ob j ection, Ile would :ay that he had kright to assume:that the eng , gement was made and he accordingly assumed, the fact in bi,, letter, in order that if he was not correct in his assumption I:e might be set right ; and he also assured the House that 7 hat en gagement was founded upon party considerations. In both these assumptions he believe himself to be cot ~ r t, for if the engagement were not founded 01, party purposes, or if , they were not . comp! , ‘,., he would have received a denial to his asSumptiou, whiCh he had not._(Hear, hear, hear. )—To the questioL, `.` is it a bargain ?" he received for answer, " No." " Is it an understanding?"---" Yes." -" Is it open to disc '‘.ion?" .—" No.,"—(Cheers.) —Upon these - answers 1:. , bad a lien to assume the facts to be :as he ha,i itated them.—(Near, hear.)—He called upon Hon. Gentlemen to look at the colour which had been given. to that letter. It was said that it was his intention to destroy the Go vernment-•-that he was deterniined to do it—let them look to the letter. Was it not a letter offering to withdraw himself from the 'Ministry, in order that they might he enabled to go on with more facility ?—(Hear, hear.) — If they could do better' without kim, he was enabling them to do so by the offer of his resignation to the Noble Lordfo use as lie thought proper, still having' reference to his first letter. Was that letter, he would ask, written in a spirit calculated to injure or destroy the Government.? The Utmost that e,uld be said of it was; that he (Mr. Werries); wished to retire;,' and was it' a crime of such magnitude, to wi,h to give up the honours and emoluments of office, as to draw down 'tiro him the censure of determining to hi.eak, np the Government ? In the letter he had written, he had stated his assumptions in the broadest man ner a man Might to' (10 who wished to 'deal fairly. Such were hi s i m p ress i ons; an d u p o n these grounds it was that he proposed to leaVe the Cabinet. He had stated those matters broadly, in order that if he was wrong he Might he set right at once, and come to a right under standing witlrhiS Right Hon. Friends. 'Rut it there was no answer, lie had a right to conclude that his surmises were correct: He had been asked,. if it was his in.. tention to 'write that letter upon the return of the Noble Lord ; to which he would reply, that he had no right to assume that his right would not be con ceded 'to him, and that on the Noble Lord's return, every thing would be set right - and go nn. It had never been a subject of discussiori amongst his colleagues, nor did he think that it hid at all tended towards the dissolution of the Cabinet. On the 19th of December, he had no reason to broach the subject, and if he had done so, it would be an indication that he did consider that letter as a means calculated to upset the Government. He hoped he 'had satisfied the Right Hon. Gent. that he had no reason for mentioning the subject upon that occasion, and he repeated, that to this moment he felt convinced that the letter had had no tendency to break up the Government. Mr. BROUGHAM said, that he thought It would be advisable for the House to pass to some other subject, and let the discussion drop there for the present, as - it appeared the Right Hon. Gent. was resolved to give no inforniation to, the House._(The Hon. and Learned Gentleman added another observation, which, from the. noise in the House, we could not hear.) _ Lord NORMANRY also thought it was.better to let the discussion cease. Sir JOHN NEWPORT said' he .knew the absence of his Right Hon. Friend (Mr.. Tierney) was occasioned by indisposition, but for which his Right lion. Friend world be present to repel calumny and misrepresentation. Under the circumstances of hiS absence, he (Sir J. Newport) did not feel himself justified in entering into further discussion. The petition was then brought up. Mr. i'ORTMAN said, that as the Chancellor of the Exehequer was now in bis place, he would again recur to the subject which had given an opportunity for so much discussion ; which in no way related to it. He begged to ask the Right Hon. Centleman, whether'he was determin ed to do any thing to satisfy the complaints of the malt. sters. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that he had this day a communication with a deputation from , the most eminent Alahaters, and in 'accordance with their wishes had fixed a day early after Easter for entering into a full consideration of the subject. The Petition *front - the Maltsters of Dorset was then read, and laid on the table. TEST AND CORPORATION ACTS. • . „ Petitions from Protestant Dissenters, praying for the re peal of the Test and Corporation Acts, were presented by Lord EBRINGTON; front some • plaee4 in Devonshire;-by Mr. WEBBi• from Gloucester ;—by Mr. DENISON, frial Tooting, Epsom, Godalming, - Kingston-on-Thames, E lap- ham, and Balham-hill ;—by Mr. WARBURTON, from Tow cester, Warrington, Farriogdon,. and several other places, (in. all 20 petitions);—by Mr.. FAZAKERLEY, . from .I.in coin ;—by Mr. DuticoarnE,. from Hertford ;—by LESTER, from Shaftesbury Tnoirsoti, from Dover ;—and by Mr. 11. GonnoN,- from two parishes, the names of which we could not hear.—They were ordered to lie on the table. - TREATY OF LIMERICK. Sir 11. PARNELL postponed his motion for the pro ductiop of the treaty of Limerick to the Gth'of March.— The non. Baronet then presented a petition from the Roman Catholics of Ratheorney, praying for Catholic Emancipation. ithior PEEL presented a petition from the tnaltsters of Norwich, praying for a repealnf the Malt Act: Similar petitions were-presented by Mr. ABERCIOMUY, from Chester ; by Mr. W. SMITH', from Newport Pagriel (two), Olney (two), Raveston, Chalfont St. Peter's, Atnershanr,..Swanhonme, _Quairiton, Great. Missenden, Long Crendon, lekford, Stoney. Stratford, Harrofd, Bow Brickhill, Sherrington, Stoke Goldington, High Wycomb; Winslow, Fenny Stratford, Great Horwood, North Craiv ley, Great Linford, Chesbam, Yardley Hasting, and Laren: don ; by Mr. RICE, from nine places in England; and by Mr. Mutiny, from Worksop and another place. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL moved for various re turns 'connected with the court of Chaneeiy.—Ordered. Colonel DAVIES presented a petition froM some malt sfers of WorceSter, praying for the repeal of the Malt . Tax. ELECTION POLLS. Colonel DAVIES moved for leave to bring in a Bill - to regulate the Merle of to ring the Polls in Cities and Boroughs in. England. The Hon. Member stated that the' object of the Bill would be to extend the number of•places of taking the poll, and to abridge the time at present , allowed for polling. Mx. ROBINSON was disposed to agree with his Hon. Colleague, that some measure was necessary to correct the evils of the present system of polling. Lord LOWTHER observed, that if the duration of the poll were abridged, the freemen of boroughs residing in London might be precluded from voting. _ • Mr. BATLEY was of opinion that all the evils Com plained of under the present system, arosefrom the too long duration of the time of Mr. W. SMITH felt no jealousy of abridging the freedom of election by shortening the duration of the polls. Mr. FYLER disapproved of the proposal to increase the number of the polling booths. Mr. BARING said, that six days, the term which he understood was to be proposed in the Bill for the duration of the poll, was insufficient time. tle thought, likewise, that if the Object was to curtail expense, the having a num ber of polling places was not the way to effect it.---(Hear.) • Mr. L. MABERLV said a few words which were in audible. - Mr. PEEL suggested to the Hon. Mover, that the best argument he could bring in aid of his Bill would be to in stance the'benefit which had resulted from.the abridgment of the poll in particular places. In Norwich he believed the duration of the poll had been considerably shortened, —with what: effect he did not know. He threw out this suggestion to the Hon. Member, because one praCtiCal inistnce would have greater weight than innumerable at , gurneets a priori. The ATTORNEY•GENERAL said that the shortening of the duration of the poll would „either deprive out voters of their franchise, or compel candidates to bring them up numerically, ,and bodily, on the first or - second day of the election, at an enormous expense. After a few words from Mr. Mowcx, leave was given to bring in the Bill. Mr. MOORE (of Dublin) moved for leave to bring in a Bill " for repealing and amending" certain Acts relating to bills of exchange and promissory notes in Ireland; and consolidating the statute law relating thereto. The SPEAKER, on reading the motion, suggested to the Hon. Member, that if the. Acts were repealed, they could not be amended. _ _ Mr. mooRE, therefore, put his motion, in the follow. ing form :—" For leaiie to bring in a Bill to repeal certain Acts and to amend the law relating to bills of exchange and promissory notes," &e.—The motion, thus amended, was agreed to. FRIENT)IA* SOCIETIES. • ' Mr. COURTENAY moved for leave to bring in a Bill to consolidate and amend the laws relating to friendly societies. Mr. MIME said, that great anxiety existed as to the object which the lion. Gentleman had in view. Art idea prevailed, that it was the intention of the lion. Member to take away from friendly soeieties the power r n ° ti t :e a opinion pPnt. ing their treasurers , and other officers, of persons connected with those societies, wotild destroy the system altogether. He was satisfi e d t h at t h e H on. Member had no such intention ; but hoped that, to allay the apprehensions of othets, he would take this opportunity of stating what his object was. Mr. COITBSENAY said, it . might be a sufficient answer to what had fallen from the Hon. Member, to State that the Rill which he proposed to bring in, did not in any degree affect the societies formed otherwise than under the Act which he had the honour to introduce in 1819. Except, in the particular matter of securities, the societies framed under his Act bad more direct management of their affairs than those framed under Mr. Rose's Act. The Act lie introduced was intended to obviate the numerous evils which resulted frOm miscalculation ; for which purpose it provided that justices should not allow any society to he formed whose tables of payments and benefits should not have been approved by two competent actuaries. In the execution of this provision, however„ a difficulty arose,—it was not eas to know who were competent actuaries. To get rid of this obstacle be would propose, in the Bill he was about to introduce, that the rules- and tables exhibited at the sessions should be, by the clerk of the peace, transmit-, ted to the only Government-office in London which l cessed a professional actuary,—namely, the office of the commissioners for reducing the national debt. That office had declared its willingness to accept the reference, for they had no other business to perform.—(A laugh.) Mr. HUME expressed himself satisfied with the expla nation which the Honourable Member had given, and, said that the actuary he had alluded to was perfectly com petent to the task which he had undertaken. Leave was then given to bring in the Bill. PAROCHIAL SETTLEMENTS. Mr. MACQUEEN, after a speech tbat from the low tone in which it was delivered was quite inaudible in the gallery, moved for a Select Committee to inquire into the law of Parochial Settlement. Colonel WOOD observed, that there were other parts of the Poor Laws which he thought must force themselves on the attention of the Committee, and particularly their operation on the agricultural poor of some counties, where the rate of wages was so low that even single men could nt,t support themselves on it. The motion having beer. agreed to, and the Committee appointed, including the Attorney-General, amongst other n antes, The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said, he could not pro mise to give his general attendance to the Committee, in consequence of his professional avocations. What assist ance he could afford short of general attendance, lie was very willing to contribute. Mr. MACQUEEN, as we understood, declared himself satisfied with the occasional assistance of the Honourable and Learned Gentleman. ROMAN CATHOLIC LAND-TAX BILL Mr. G. BANKES moved the Order of the Day for the second reading of the Roman Catholic Land-tax Bill. Mr. CURTEIS thought it but right that the Bill should undergo some consideration before the second reading was agreed to. Mr: FYLER should be the last man in the world to object to a measure like the present, which was intended to do justice to persons whose rights appeared to have been injured ; but at the same time, as the indulgence now to be granted to the Catholics must come from the public purse, he thought it necessary that the House should see clearly that the persons who would receive benefit from this Act were the parties really entitled to relief. Mr. HERMES was ready to support the principle of this Bill at the present moment, for the very same reasons which had induced him to support it in the last Session of Parliament. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL knew that the statute of William 111., being held a very severe statute upon the Roman Catholics, had, by a collusion and connivance on - the part of the early Commissioners, never been carried into execution against them. The difficulty, therefore, would be to ascertain the fact whether the Roman Catholic proprietor had had a double assessment placed upon his `land in the time of King William, according to its then real value. He was not satisfied with the nature of the proof which the present bill provided on that point ; on the con trary, he thought that the legal advisers of the Ctown should have an opportunity of bringing it under revision. -There was another provision of the bill with which he was :not satisfied. When Mr. Pitt made the land-tax perpetual, it followed as matter of course that no change could take place in the assessments which were then made and not appealed against within u given time. An opportunity ,was then given to the Roman Catholics to get rid of their assessment of Ss. in the pound; of which, however, in some instances they had not availed themselves. Now since that time Protestants had bought of Catholics land subject to the double assessment, and had in consequence of that assessment given a less sum for it. If they were enabled by this act to get rid of the doubt assessment, the Act would not be a boon to the Catholic but to the Pro testant landholder. These were the two ,points of difficulty which he could not get over in the present bill. Mr. HURST explained the mode in which , the commis : sionere of land-tax disposed of appeals against the inequa lity of the tax in his district. Mr. G. BANKES did not look upon this measure as a boon to the Catholics, but as an act of justice—aye, and of tardy justice too. When the Act was passed, which made the land-tax perpetual, the inequality with which. it pres sed upon the Roman Catholics was dwelt upon by Mr. Pitt. He used phrases which showed that he considered it to be, owing to the carelessness of Prote-starits that any inequality existed among them, and said that lie could not allow that inequality to be urged as a reason for delaying j the passing of his bill, which . it was well known was an important financial' measure. - Not a word further was said at that time by the Roman Catholics—for at that time there was no Roman Catholic in the House to advocate their cause. He, who bad always' opposed the admission of Roman Catholics into Parliament on national grounds, never supposed that it was not a hardship upon them, that they had not individuals in the House to advocate their rights, and therefore be agreed with the Attorney-General, that: liough it might not be hard to let the Protestants suffer' or their - neglect, they were bound to show greater indulgence to Roman Catholics. In cases, therefore, where Protestants paid an equal assessment with Catho lici, be did not pretend by this hill to give any remedy.— The -law, hoviever, pretended to remedy the. injustice which had been inflicted on Roman Catholics, and did not ; and all that he now propoi;ed to - do was, to assist the law in,its operation. The English Roman Catholics had not been passive under the present injustice of the law, but had sought redress, for it by every legal means in their power. Lord Shrewsbury, who had six different estates in six different counties, paid on them all, with one exception, precisely' the same 'sum as was first charged upon them -50 years ago. He got rid of the double charge upon an estate which he had in Oxfonlshire, by an appeal to the Commissioners under the. Act of 1791. - But even that was attended with great difficulty. He hoped that.. he should be able to exempt by this Bill, not only the lands of Catholics hut also those purchased by Protestants,_hitherte liable to double , assessments. With& generosity which did them the highest honour, the Catho lics of England were desirous, in the event of the measure passing, that the exemption should be _made. univeraal.,-- He trusted that in committee he should receive the assis tance of the law officers of the Crown to remove whatever legal difficulties might arise. The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Monday, the 3 d of March. . _ The House then went into committee on the Salomon Fisheries Regulation Bill. The blanks were filled up, and, on the motion of Mr. FIRGUSSON, the Bill was or dered to be printed, and to be recommitted on this day fortnight. Mr. WAiinURTON gave notice, that on Wednesday, Feb. 27, be should. Move that an Address be presented to His Majesty, praying for copies of the Orders in Council issued to the Colonial Governments. The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned_ at a quarter past nine o'clock. PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS. .HOUSE OF COMMONS. ORDERS OF THE DAY FOR THIt OAT. . Supply—Committee. 2. Ways and Means—Committee. NOTICES OF MOTIONS FOR THIS DAY. 1. Sir Henry Hardinge—To vote Ordnance Estimates for six mouths. (In Committee of Supply.) 2. Lord Viscount Pahnersten—To vote Army Estimates for siz months. (In Committee of Supply.) 3. Dr. Phillimore--Return of all the Courts which exer cise Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction in the several Dioceses of England and Wales; the names of Judges, Regis trars, and Deputy Registrars "of all the said Courts ; also, of the persons by whom they are appointed, and their respective situations. NOTICES GIVEN YESTERDAY. Monday, Feb. 1. Sir Francis Burdett,—To move to discharge the Order of 'Leave for the Covent-garden Vestry Bill, on a Question respecting the Standing Orders. 2. Mr. Denison—Bill to regulate the Coal Meterage of the county of Surrey. Tuesday, Feh. 26. 1. Mr. Moore—Bill to allow the use of Fire on board Vessels propelled by Steam, in the Ports, Harbours, Rivers, Canals, and Lakes of Ireland, for the purpose of navigating the same. 2. Mr. Moore—Bill to amend Act 56 Geo. 3, e. 66, re lating to Stamp Duties in Ireland. W e d nes d a y, Feb. 27. Mr. Hume—Address for Copies of the Public Acts of the Legislative Assemblies in the several Colonies ; also, Copies of all Orders in Council issued for the regula tion of the Colonies. Tuesday, March 4. Mr. Kennedy—Select Committee on the Law of En tail in Scotland. Thursday, March 6. I. Lord Viscount Althorp--Bill to regulate the takirg of Polls at County Elections. 2. Sir Henry Parnell—Motion for Copy of the Treaty of Limerick, Mr. Justice BEST IS going to 13ath, 1;.)r the benefit of his health. FOREIGN EXCHANGES ON LONDON. HAMBURcH, FEB. 15.-13. B%.—Two month% Lsirstc, FED. 11.—Three months, 6. 15. BERLIN. FEB. 12.—Three months, 6. 25%. AMSTERDAM. FEB. 19.-11. 95.—Two months, 11.90. & i - _ 44, 11 ,,A. -- , -- z= 4 ', VA)le Itsg' *MI* 7 , _,_ ( 4 % ~. LONDON, _ - . FRIDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY ee, 1828. The French Papers of Tuesday partly confirm the account of warlike preparations •by the SULTAN. It is said that one hundred thousand Asiatic troops have arrived in the environs of Constan tinople to strengthen the - European army of the SULT tN—that is, troops, disciplined in the European manner. If this really be true, and that the SULTAN intends seriously to provoke the vengeance of the Allied Powers, he will soon have cause to repent his folly. The thing is perfectly absurd, that Turkey, even though backed by all the barbarian hordes of the East can hope to sustain, far less repel, the conjoint attack of the three most powerful nations in the world. How ever, at present, concurring accounts from all parts of the Levant, tend to prove that the SULTAN is in earnest—whether to gain more favourable terms, or to seal his destiny by recourse to arms, remains to be seen. His duplicity in gaining time will avail him little, even though his forces' should treble their , number, and their enthusiasm be as great as his own. But we cannot yet believe that he will risk his own safety and that of the Turkish Empire, by so ' rash a proceeding. The battle of Navarin is only a foretaste of what awaits him in•the event of 'war. We have observed of late► in a Morning Paper, several attacks upon Mr. MusKtssoN, in a tone of personality which appears to us to pass the limits of what is justifiable political hostility, and particularly founded upon a conversation which took place at a private dinner party. Mr. HUSKISSON . is charged with having made a declaration in a precise form of words, " in words to Lady CANNING and in writing to Lord SEAFORD." Stress is laid upon this, as proving " a double delibe ration," and it is added, that " this cannot be denied." In the next day's paper a positive denial appears on authority, stating that Mr. HUSKISsON had never written to Lord SEAFORD on the subject. To-day a third article appears, beginning with a flourish about veracity and equivocation—with what sort of grace, from those whe have been convicted of stating as an undeniable fact what, it is now ad mitted, must have been either an invention, or an inference grossly, if not wilfully false—we need not point out. Those who are so little scrupulous about facts capable of proof, are not exactly the parties to claim implicit confidence in assertions, which rest only on the necessarily vague authority of ungnmded and confidential conversation. Frankfort Papers, of the 15th tilt., have been re ceived, this morning, but they contain no late news. The Greeks prosecuted the investment of Scio with great spirit. A Morning Cotenaporary has stated, that the Duke - - of WELLINGTOIV called at the Treasury, and found all absent; whom he wished to see. We hase a Shrewd suspicion that it was our Heraldic friend, and not the Noble Duke, who made an unsuccessful effort at the Treasury. THE FUNDS—(THIS DAY). CITY, Twgr.rE o'Cr.o'r. From the variety 'of opinions entertained on the subject of nor foreign political relations with tegard to Turkish affairs, added to the uncertainty which attends the measures of the Finance Committee, the Consul market has been in a confused state this morning, and Consols, which opened at 84?-„ were done at that price and 84 4 1 at one and the same moment. The Bears, who forbode nothing but war in the East, are calculating upon a fall in the price of Con lois, to which the differences among the members of a cer tain assembly have, in a great measure, materially contri buted to cause a growing feeling against their advance ; but against this the Bulls say money is abundant, and stock scarce, in favour of a contrary opinion ; the present price is 84 , after being 844 for this, and b 44 for April account. India Bonds are 92 4, and Exchequer Bills, 60 61 pm. The Foreign Securities are still dial and heavy ; them has been. some demand for Brazil and Buenos Ayres Stock. Russian Bonds sympathize with the fail in Consols; the present are the quotations; Brazilian Bonds, 624-; Buenos Ayres, 37 8 ; Colombian, 244 25 ; Mexican 6 per Cents., 331 34 ; Russian, .934 i ; and Danish, 61i Shares have little activity. Accounts are at length ar rived from Rio of the Bth of December. The Exchange was 324-, and looking up, but there was no political intelli gence by this conveyance. An account has been received of the last seven days!. workings of the Brazil Mines, which amount to nearly 48 lbs. weight of gold ; the premium, however, drops; and is now 43 45 ; Colombian are 61 5i dis. ;• Real' del Monte, 40 30 dis., and United Mexican, 21 20 dim. Tiresper Cent: Consols, 84 1; Ditto for the Account, 84! i ; Three per Cent. Reduced, 115 i a ; Three and a half per Cent.: Reduced, 92-1- 3 ; Four per Cent. 101 ; Four per Cent., 1826, 103 ; India lionds, 92 4 pm. ; Exchequer: Bills, 60 1 pm. Fouzios.—Brazilian, 62 fr; Buenos Ayres, 37 8 ; Chilian, 23 4 ; Colombian, 244 5 ; Danish, .611 ; Greek, 171 ; Mexican, 5 per Cent., 24 I ; ditto, 6 per Cent., 831 4 ; Peruvian, 2213} ; Portuguese, 74fr 5 ; Russian, 924 ; Spanish, 101 ill, MINES.—AngIo Mexican, 60 die. ; Brazilian, 46 8 pm. ; Colombian, 6A- die. ; Real del Monte, 40 20 dis. ; United Mexican, 21 20 die. ; Mexican Company, fifr per share; Mexican Mint, 3 4 per share; General Mining. Association, 10 11 pm. TWO O'CLOCK. The price of Consols have improved to 84i for this, and 841- for next time. A slight decline has taken place in India Bonds to 92, and Exchequer Bills, to 59 pm. THREE 0' CL 0 CK. Consols, 84/1 I, with scarcely any thing doing up to the above hour; no news. FOUR O'CLOCK.—CLOSING PRICES. Consols 84fr I Danish 61i Do. for Ac. 84f d Greek, 1825 Brazilian Bonds 62 Mexican, 1825 34i Buenos Ayres Peruvian Chilian Do. 23 Russian 93i Columbian, 1824 24i Spanish, 1821 101 THE ARMY. A detachment of the 21st nisileers has been directed to proceed from R ea di ng to Oakingharn ; and the different recruiting pa rt i es from Read i ng to Great Marlow , to remain during th e A ss i zes f or t h e county o f Berks, about t o take plac e at Reading. That fine regiment, the 4th, or Royal Irish Dragoon Gnarls, which has been stationed in Dorchester Barracks for some time past, are now about to leave for the Cavalry Barracks at Exeter ; and, we understand, from good au thority, that the sth Dragoon Guards will immediately march from Leeds to this place.—Dorset Chronicle. HOUSE OF LORDS.--(THIS DAY.)--111 the ease of STRACIIAN V. PATON (of which a report appeared in our Paper of Monday), the judgment of the Court of Session was affirmed this morning, but without coats. In the 4 , SUN" of to-day our readers will observe, that we have given the most copious details of a Cris Con. in England, a Seduction in Ireland, an Elopement in Wales, and the Murder in Montagu-place ! —thereby rendering all possible justice to the morals of the United Kingdom, LAW INTELLIGENCE.-(THIS DAY,) COURT OF COMMON PLEAS, WESTMINSTER. C RIM. CON. TYRELL V. THE REV. MR. ST. AUHYN. Before the Judge took his seat the Court was immensely crowded, both by Ladies and Gentlemen. Mr. Justice PARK, on coming into Court, asked Mr. Serjeant Wilde if it would be necessary for the' Ladies to withdraw ? Mr. Serjeant WILDE did not consider it necessary. This announcement seemed to give great pleasure to the Ladies. .The case was tried before a special jury composed otthe following Gentlemen : Messrq. Wm. R. Clayton I MessrA. Wm. Rinsell Benj.--Good Thos. Smith , John Slater Thos. Young.. Wm. Hilton W. Taylor Hockland Stoddart James Anderson - Wm. Dunn- George Cullum Mr. BRODERICK opened the, pleadings. Mr. Sergeant WILDE . then addressed the Jury. Gentlemen, this action is brought by Mr. John Spicer Tyrell against the Rev. Mr. J. St. Aubyn, to recover by your verdict a compensation in damages for the seduction of Elizabeth Ann, the wife of the plaintiff, by the defendant. The general nature of the case is sufficient to satisfy you of the importance of it at least ; .and in addressing a Jury in your situation of life, it must be quite uiniecessary for me to enter at any length into any general topics relating to the description of crime involved in this cause. There can be no doubt that many of you fill those relations in life, which must make you master of all the topics that can assist you in the administration of your duty in the present case; and the experience of the present day unfortunately presents too many cases of this description to make it either necessary or:deemly form Advocate now-a-days tooccupy the Court with general observations upon .them. If this case be ofthe description I esteem it, the best address I. can make to you is a detail of the facts that have occurred; if those facts do not impress your minds . wiiha feeling that an irreparable injury of the. deepest description been suffered by the plaintiff; and if, the .statement at the same time does not satisfy you that the canduct of Mr. St. Aubyn, in whatever light it may be viewed, is without apology or excuse, I am satisfied that I have taken so erroneous a view of these facts that I should be utterly incompetent to offer any observations calculated to produce advantage. Mr. Tyrell, the plaintiff, is the eldest son of Sir John Tyrell, a Baronet, descendant ,of a noble family in the county of Essex ; his wife, who is the subject of this action, was the daughter of Sir Thomas Pilkington—a lady, I believe, of considerable qualities, and possessed of many accomplishments. The case will present to you one of the most striking instaiices I have ever known of the instability of human happiness, for I have never witnessed a case in which marriage was formed under circumstances more fairly wai ranting the expectation of permanent happiness than the circumstances which characterise the one in the present case. Mr. Tyrell, the heir to a respectable fortune—the member of a respectable family, of the age of 24 years—having no motive in the selection of his wife but the indulgence of those honourable feelings which ought to influence a man who seeks a marriage ; he thus influenced, paid his addresses to the daughter of a respectable gentle man, herself also possessing an annile fortune. The hrtaband, without motives of any . selfish kind,.thus selecting the woman to whom be should pay his court; the lady on the other band, equally free - from temptation to ac-. cept that offer unless her heart was engaged in the con traction, and that her full inclination yielded assent to the supplications which were offered to her. The lady was something more than twenty—the husband between three and four and twenty—the proposal met with the approbation of their respective friends; the union took place under. every circumstance which could give assurance that their happiness must be as permanent as the means they possessed were abundant. The marriage teok place in 1919 ; the lamentable transaction that will be proved to you took place in the month of November last year. Having been married, therefore, about eight-years, they had five children born to them—three girls and two boys. The two boys unfortunately died; the three girls now survive, to deplore through life the success of the conduct of the Rev. Mr. St. Aubyn. When first the married, they, re sided in a house taken for the purpose,. at some distance from Sir John Tyrell's, and where the children were born, In the year 1825, Sir John Tyrell had the misfor, tune to lose his lady; and you cannot doubt the estimate the parent of the husband had formed of the 'happiness that prevailed between his son and his son's wife, inasmuch as be was anxious to participate in their happiness by soliciting them to break up their own establishment, to,take up their abode at his residence and their family; the son and daugh ter-in-law, were alike pleased with his proposal, and . ac cordingly in 1825, they removed to Sir John's- hope, where they remained up to the time of the ladY's.elope meat with the defendant. Mrs. Tyrell, in the course of the year 1827, paid a visit to her mother, .Lady Pilking ton; and, unfortunately, there met with Mr. St. Aubis. I believe he had been an acquaintance of a gentleman whom Lady Pilkington knew after the death of her husband. There the parties became acquainted, but nothing parti cular was observed. Mr. Twit had occasion to attend the Assizes or some other place, and the lady went to her mother's to pass the intermediate time, where she met with the defendant. We believe they met once in public after that ; we, however, have no_ means of ascertaining that they ever met more than once in public. You will find that the defendant pursued the course he adopted in the present case, upon a due calculation of the difficulties, and with all the caution necessary to impose the greatest difficulty upon those who should afterwards have occasion to develope his public conduct, for up to the day when this lady eloped, there was not the slightest suspicion of any correspondente or communication between the parties. Sir John Tyrell kept a little pony chaise, and this lady was -in the habit of driv ing him to Chelmsford and back ; she professed to be attached to the animal, and when her little errands called her to Chelmsford, Sir John let her have it and the little gig, and accompanied her thither. About the time this elopement took place, the lady's desire of,visiting Chelms ford became greater, and her visits more frequent, but still no circumstance occurred to excite the least suspicion that any incorrect object stimulated the desire, and Sir John therefore regularly accompanied her on all occasions when she desired to go, and his avocations could permit On. the l9th November in the morning, she bad intimated a desire to go to Chelmsford to pay the family bills ; the money was provided for the purpose, and she went as usual in the little gig with Sir John. She made au arrangement with him to meet at a particular house in _Chelmsford.. Sir John having done What business had galled him to Chelmsford, at the time appointed, went to the partieularplace • he found Mrs. T. had not been there ; be concluded she haiwalked towards home, and consequently he and his servant proceeded thither. He found on arrival at home that she had not returned, upon which he went backto Chelmsford, made inquiry at , a ll th e t ra d esmen ' s houses where. it was expected that she bad 'been, and As tidings were beard of her, but still not theleast suspicion was entertained of her conduct. Anxiety-for her safetr.svas felt. d .away. withent. h e r return. Various suppositionslt was thou g ht s h e might have gone to bee oAlugton's, or to some other place, where , . she was acquainted. Th e ne xt day it was learnt ai re t . e(lata that a post-chaise had , been seen ,within a mile or two of Chelmsford,- and that Mae. Tyra had been observed ' with a woman canyin g a handl e i n the basket, proceeding iw the' direction of the chaise; that induced further in quiry,, and. in _the, result a strong impression arose that something hatOeyerred that had never before been thought of. Inquiries werf: prosecuted for three or four days which ended in finding.. her at a hotel in Leicester-square, With the defendant, living as man and wife, where they now reside, and have ever since the elopement. Upon this discovery, Mr. Tyrell, of course, became acquainted with the nature and extent of the misfortune that had befallen biro. Ile found himselfleft with these three female cbildren,whoin he had believed the object of his wife', affections as well as of his own, and whom he had thought would have continued to enjoy her protection—he found he had lost his wife, and his children their mother. Application was imme diately made by some friend of Mr. Tyrell's, that the lady might at least be removed from her disgraceful situa tion. A return to her husband was quite out of the ques tion, but at least all who felt an interest in her welfare, could not fail to desire that she elsould not continue in in famy, and become a standing reproach to herself and family. Mr. Justice PARKS.—.Who was the interview with? Mr. Sergeant Wienx.—Mr. St. Aubyn, he being at the hotel in Leicester-square, with Mrs. Tyrell, and both pass- Mg under the name of Mr. and Mrs.' Johnson. A friend of . Sir J. Tyrell's went to Mr. St. Aubyn to request that she might be removed to a place less disgraceful ; of course, upon seeing an acquaintance of her husband's, the lady was CUKOR j she mitt ;la vvol, #.l2ti Mr. St, Atibiii quested that shewould withdraw. When the lady had retired, the gentleman who called stated, thst he had waited on Mr. St. Aubyn from Mr. Tyrell, for the purpose iof removing Mrs. Tyrell from that place, and that be wished to communizate, with him on the subjeit.— i Mr. St. .Aubyn suggested that he did not think her spirits were in a state to warrant it, and therefore objected. %The gentleman however said that unless it was complied with, authority should be used. In the course of what passed,the - . gentleman who waited on Mr. St. A., said to hills, Sir you, have placed yourself in .a- very perilous situation.: upon which the defendant said—oh, I know all about that : J.- . have don* nothing that I blush for ! ! Indeed? saidthe— gentleman ; no, said he. Why, sir, resumed the other,are you not a beneficed. clergyman ? • Yes, Sir, and I know all about that, With regard to morality, my notions about that - differ very widely from many others in - the world.- I have , done nothing that I blush for ; and I am sure Mrs. Tyrell will never give me . up. The gentleman remonstrated, and replied, authority would be used to make him resign . her if be did not comply. No, said he the laugh will be against me, if I do that ! Laugh, rejoined the other, that's an odd expression, I beg to inform you, Sir, that authority will be used if you detain the lady. Upon which, be said, if Mr. Tyre!' did that, the laugh would be very much against him. Treating the subject, therefore, as one which, * far as morality was concerned, was of no consequence.; because the only importance attached to what he had , done, as to the result of his conduct, and the misfortune of the defendant was, whether the world should laugh at the one or the other. Upon the conversation pressing, Mr. St...Aubyn said, I have not engaged in this battle without calculating its hazards. I shall, therefore, remain steady ! and be has kept his word. You will per ceive, gentlemen, that having stated the circiftristances un der which the marriage took place, the situation of the parties, the manner in which the elopement was effected, I must have stated the substance of the whole case: My claim, therefore, at your hands is, that you will look at the situation of this plaintiff living with his wife under the eircum.stanees .which , I have stated, presenting, ill I have presumed to suppose, - the fairest pros of human happiness -;- the fate of the huaband and the children in., volved in the conduct of the wife, and all destroyed by a. beneficed. . clergyman, who, before he entered into this. transaction, had not to plead the impulse of . pas sion—had -not .to plead a momentary attack of temp tation, too strong at least for his powers to resist, but _the case presents a man who has entered into this. upon ...1 calculation of- all, belonging to the sue coin of his enterprise. I lament that the first case I ever heard of, of the seducer having estimated the whole course of the transaction in which he was engaging ; esti mating at the beginning the misery he was to inflict ; esti mating also the consequence of that misery to the female, to her husband, her children, and her family—that the man thin enter ing , upon such a transaction.--I lament to., say 'should be a clergyman of the Church of England ! Ida not expect clergymen to be differently constituted from other men, but other men are engaged in the transactions of life which absorb much of their attention. A clergyman, if hr luive selected his profession from honourable motives, must be a man deeply impressed with the importance of social obligations; he must have had his attention periodically called to the necessity not only of instructing in, but of observing and setting an example of, the importance of such obligations. To find therefore, a man boasting that no consequence can be presented to him which he has not thoroughly estimated ; no wretchedness of which he has not before taken due notice ; no punishment which he has not weighed and disposed of; presents a case on the part o. a clergyman, such as never was presented before, and which I hope now appears for the last time. That probably de prods upon you ; the example to the seducer who origin ally has seared his own honourable feelings, before he ern barked in his illicit intercourse, the example which deters him, is not the misery, not the wretchedness and ruin, which he scatters around, him : it is not that he leaves young females , who through their lives are to bear the stigma of their unfortunate mother's conduct; it is not that which operates on such individuals, but the verdict of a Jury _sometimes does, It is for you to-day to mark the first case, andl hope to mark it in-a way.that will make it the last._ What apology my learned and - able Friend is to offer ,1 do not know; what wretched shifts this miserable man will resort to, either to screen himself, or-ta aggravate the injury he has done, I do not know.. . 1 have not talent equal to my Learned Friend, and, thereforei. 4 cannot know what topic will be presented by him...fairly to influence your judgment. But I know my: learned Friend's resources are endless, and I shall not attempt to anticipate them. I shall be content to have the benefit of the integrity and experience possessed in those departments' of the Court. which will ultimately have to decide on this case. The defendant is a Baronet's son and a beneficed clergyman; he is a gentleman who has maintained himself in that character for some time, and there is but one other circumstance to which I need advert, ~ that is, - his skill, by which his calculations have been so sue, cessful. I have stated., to, you that the defendant and Abs. Tyreli were not known to have met itt public more than twice, but the defendant availed himself of his absence from home, and of his absence.from the dies charge of his duties. I believe he would avail himself of any means to accomplish ~ his purpose. I cannot state all, nor can I present to you the times of interview, but there can be no doubt that Chelmsford is the place where he availed himself of the opportunities of seeing this lady. slut I will show you the character of the man, and I will give you a pretty good idea of the course he adopted. He appears to have beep most sedulous to keep out o ha ff e the descendedt view of the t g h o e a h: a s br e w d . pedlar i u t i o l l 0 n s h g u a t r v , to y o a t' s, u t ta t the character of a . pauper, to carry a piece of an old pipe in his mouth, and so forth, to such an extent that at some places he was refused lodgings. It happened that the landlady of the Crown at Ongar, noticed his hands, which appeared to her to be very white, and she thought he might be some person that had been reduced, and which induced her to give him a bed. The orders he gave, however, soon satisfied her, that he was not the Mall lie assumed to b e . In the morning he went away, and in three weeks l i aT t e e b y ! r s eg m l 01 j a (n n „ agn o fi n reo after returned to the same house in a chariot with his ser vant, when the landlady instantly detected the Jew pedlar. came; the e this changing horses there,. going towards Chelmsford, ..wait you the rest,—then driving to Epping Place, then to Wood ford,the post-boy will tell then, that he was discovered to be the Rev. Mr. untilwillh o t o w a o : y r s o p: St. Aubyn ; and that in a day or two a ft erwards he was found at Leicester-square, living with Mrs. Tyrell as, Mr. and Mrs. Johnson. Now an individual of his kind who undertakes such an enterprise, you will not be surprised to the i N ng o w there el o pe m e n t find succeed, in making us fail to know' how ti.e acquaint ance was matured. Gentlemen, I will k ee p myword—l will rely on your experience and humanity in giving effect to the statements I have made. If I make out those statements, notwithstanding the esteem I have for the talents of Pa' Learned Friend, I should do injustice to the tribunal I am addressing, if I supposed the talents of any man, enabled him to snake observations that would influence a Jury in their decision upon the conduct of a man who had robbed a gentleman of his wife, that bad lived up to the moment of her elopement without the slightest suspicion, and who has left a family for ever afterwards to deplore her me fortune. Mr. Frost produced a copy of the registry of the 'mar riage of John Tyson Tyrell, and Elizabeth Anne Faking ton, ou the 19th day of May, 1819. Mr. Tuffnell deposed, that he was present at the mar riage, and gave the bride away; had an opportunity of witnessing how they lived together; the conduct pf Mr. Tyrell app eare d t o b e a lways kind and a ff ect i onate, and they lived h a ppily t o gether ; never witn esse d any change in the conduct of either up to the time of the elopement. Cross-examined by Mr. Sergeant Cross._ Mrs. Tyroll was a ward in Chancery, and her fortune was 45,000/. ; witness is brother to Lady Pilkington, the mother of Mrs. Tyrell; had net very frequent opport un iti es o f oh serving how they lived w hen alone. Th e y fired at Fits-place until about twelv e months after the death • of Lady Tyrell , Mr. Tyrell bunted a great d ea l butßnef:txtsle Re - 1 w h ' d eek of i t n ei: the h vi e sseiteadsonth; them at Tyrell tliojr Y . r is es it i i ed frequeu dy at her mother's ; did pot know that Mr. Ty rell did not visit at Sir John Pilkington's. a nd observed them to live happily deuce, together, as far as h e could judge. Mrs. Tuffnell, wife of the R ev. M r. Tuffnell—ls con fleeted by marriage with Mrs. Tyrell; knew her since since she was born; was present at her marriage—(Here the witness fainted, and another witness was call e d.) Mrs. Ducain, lady of Maj or b ucain, they appeared to be on the most LDERSON—Knew Mr. and Airs. Tyrell examined while til:eyy.llrle. sided at Fitz-place ; r . A affec tionate terms; this NMI in 1824; has occasionally seen sot together, except once. ates home except once. ) Where she now resides, but calledter on them at their house, sufficiently recovered to proceed. them. Had visited them once at Sir John Tyrell's.. itz-place, and occasionally met tbrh Re collectsaleAtCdmihrryusasii:disi Cross-examined—Had e rneeeuexd i vffta n eh; g hreeeinim: al o e 'law : t i tal 1 r a Cs them v ni lelieoesiht at a 1 ‘ t • .Lady Pilking t o n ' s , in June, 1827. Mll- Tyrell was there; Mr. St. Aubyn was there also, and appeared to be about 50 years of age. Witness never saw them speak to each other. Witness merely' dined there. Crov•aamigtd..l.4y ritLavon has lava ows-t430 ta sari Thug When Aaby w itik ford; • throw, ham, thong' l ivy i lects lived Tyre chau purp St. .4