The Sun. — London, England, 1828-11-28 00:00:00

rule ob• the de )rtnatil on Lor ' " .ule was Strang' evening' b e dam' We to an , ich i rnole er / 44. , to that iariec r d.r in th e cept t he Ilbertl' solatoti• [ig Woul d , got uP °ll e dother Include Ll aordshi? le Evr. Thi, yip's , State(' ! Il the Weak an d vac ill at i ng R egen t th e neces s ity Dating to America, to preserve the independence of k'n and a portion of his territory, had been expelled k e l :bon, without having been able to overcome the re " f the Court to so perilous and repulsive a step. The )7 0 :: of the invader, however, and the denunciation of httoweer, were stronger than the representations of a 'Y; and, accordingly, on the 27th of November kr' Family embarked for the new world, to avoid i of their Spanish relatives in the old. Lord Strang tt'll!d not l e t such an opportunity pass without taking t) . himself for the success of his fruitless efforts, and kitilly, though be had avowedly failed in persuading ent.to take refuge in his fleet, and had himself been to move on board the British squadron off the bar t_i, he claimed the whole merit of the emigration, patch of which the f o llowing an extract : i i _ . is i I secordingly requted an audience of the Prince Re together with due assurances of protection and se pt, and upon rece i v ing his Royal Highness's answer, vZded to Li s b on o n the 27th, in his Majesty's ship i e , bearing a flag of truce. I had immediately ) 4 4 4 * . elting communications with the Court of Lisbon , Imbirs of which shall be fully detailed in a future D . , ~ 14 ' t, said Mr. Brougham, if words were to be 11E. rence )3cl Ire a n ' any o ne wn fr nril raverse"A ie Lt to b° repli ed ratiOn t° ' Of p ublic )t. via rti :; 7 . !mild ° i e .'', estionew. that YPI,I Here the ,r at it dy gat thing orthy c ) ,; • bstant)i e nd uPa ° de ? 11° he Co 80 1 ord, anu tiler t he 'bout 11 e, i t ow e to a P I C ; 'per, till . • a- L la nded n th e/lb ; in these rell kilo I with, 0, w hiPt t to • ace olvP o f h i wesi . 0 0 !•retnen, l pt w i l e!) its coodlitici • hie Lo op at Li e ° 3atic ftero fact, Na ro is nian ol 4o Asste , e qtllo l i i o f .notbilig Df 1 807 ' t o' on th e ice he ij id the ...„1 - 11 i n duOc? 1 rili; me 5 2 '6 oirg )21°1° mit of il ; A by a '0 he 1i91 4 0 1 ag vet/ in heiii 1 118 1Y0)' a. A t to r Preted by their plain import, the meaning of it t a s&lge w ou ld b e no less than this—that the k ation of the Court of Portugal was the result C th. i ntercourse between Lord Strangford and the e Rege n t o f P ortuga l, an d that it was by the ht t, persuasi on s that he had been induced to i t Z l board with all his Court for the Brazils. It be seen f rom t h e N o bl e L or d' s pamp hl et , th a t tiv a a different account of this transaction; but, z any person, reading that despatch, to interpret " 4 ‘wise than according to the plain import of the 'he statement went (na— mes to mention in this place, that the wisely directed all his apprehensions to a Tad all his hopes to an English ,fleet; that most explicit assurances from me, that iuld generously overlook those acts of un- Imentary hostility, &c., &c. ; and that the In before the Tagus should be employed to 'eat from Lisbon and his voyage to the iorable despatch is dated November 29, his Hibernia, off the Tagus.' Now, who unless almost on the evidence of his own infession ision, he (Mr. B.) held in his hand) ,mplicated, that this Hibernian despatch, _ Tagus, November 29, was actually Btuton-street, London, on the 19th of that the Diplomatist, who on the 27th so dexterously landed in Lisbon to direct all Ipprehensions to a French army, and all hie ;lish fleet,' never saw the Regent at Lisbon at non, and was only admitted to an audience Highness had actually embarked ? This icts,—this undeniable departure from truth, net venture more particularly to charm:- mown and established by irresistible evi -41,-- . the Brazilian emigration ; and being safely ed at Rio de Janeiro, King John was exceedingly ito on reading in the diplomatic despatch an account 4,tagency by which he was persuaded to leave Europe was only within the last two months, and in his let in answer to a note of Colonel Napier's History CG Penins u l ar W a r, that his Lordship himself con -4: t 0 the charge of having written his despatch in Eng ''tiluld or never having seen the Regent till on board. Il t L e reader confront the following statement made by t d'hip in 1828, with the above London-written ex• the despatch, dated ' His Majesty's ship Hibernia, Tagus, in 1807 :'— arrived at Lisbon on the night of the 28th inst., allnost immediately saw Mr. D'Aranjo, who was al °u board ship. .1 then proceeded to the vessel in : the Prince Regent was embarked, and notwith-„ 1 1 the assertion to the contrary in Colonel Napier's 4 „had a long and most confidential interview with his ,1 Highness. I had then, as Colonel Napier truly no power either to advance or retard the emigra i but when did I ever assume that I had, or take any . to myself for any thing that passed at that inter 4bWith his Royal Highness ?' " ' l 4 though his Lordship did not land at Lisbon on the , i4 ,ltnd had not the good fortune to meet with the Royal 1 till the 28th, when they were on board—, the menaces of the Moniteur and-the protecting ton of Sir S. Smith did the whole work of diplomacy, Lordship was the chief gainer by the transaction." 41 leh was the statement which Lord Strangford If gave in his pamphlet, besides much more It lye to the alteration in his despatches, which it not be necessary to 'trouble the Court with. t asserted that Mr. Canning induced him to write .despatch as if from Lisbon, when, in fact, it was t en in London; but this was now disclosed for tst time, and since the decease of Mr. Can so it rested entirely upon his word, unsup td by affidavit. To entitle these statements to t, they ought to have been verified upon oath. , t ; 4 4 titted he saw M. d'Aranjo, and hinted that it , by his influence over him that he accomp lished !titi ends, though he then asked," when did he ever r t Zne that he had taken credit for that ?" This was e gloss, for the Court must see that the bent of his I ee. Nl`lning was t estalish the idea of his personal in- When o he s b tated that the Prince Regent IN influenced by his fears of the French Army , " it not this substantially taking credit to himself for light ip which he had wrought upon the Prince's l i t 'd? In his first despatch not a word was said the P r i nce Regent having any intention of em !ig,but the next announced the fact of riis having t : e ltdy embarked, as if the embarkation and emigra ' ti o ll of the Royal Family were the creatures of his ti Nence. Did not the assertion that "he had seen i ! Prince, and removed the only obstacle which was his w a y," sa v our of the same vanity ? The aPatch was dated the 29th of November, 1807, Was published in the London Gazette of the 4 kw ing month. It was in these terms : of a despatch from Viscount Strangford to Mr. Se " cretary Canning : " His Majesty's ship Hibernia, off the Tagus, " Nov. 29, 1807. p ( . 4 Sir p —l have the honour to announce to you, that the h _ rlf !ve Regent of Portugal has effected the wise and mag. i o N'imous purpose of retiring from a kingdom which he Old no longer retain, except as the vassal of France ; and tl 3t his Royal Highuesz and family, accompanied by most I,2is ships of war, and by a multitude of his faithful sub cud adherents, have this day departed from Lisbon, ' r 'q are now on their way to the Brazils, under the escort • British fleet. 1 ,: 4 This grand od memorable e v e n t i s not to be attributed i t 'ely to the sudden alarm excited by the appearance of a th euch army within the frontiers of Portugal. It has been genuine result of the system of persevering confidence t .. 71 moderation adopted by his Majesty towards that coon -7 ; for the ultimate success of wh ich I had in a manner te ndered myself responsible; and which, in obedience to lour in s t ruc ti o ps,' I had uniformly continue d to su pp ort, hen under appeatuncea of the most discourag i ng nature. *4 (What was this but taking the whole credit to glinself.) ` This morning the Portuguese fleet left the Tagus. I ‘At the honour to accompany the Prince in his passage der the bar. The fleet consisted of eight sail of the line , '‘ , lr t ar p frigates, several armed brigs, sloops, and cor p ,ttes, and a number of Wait' amountin g , 1 believe, aboirt 36 sail in all. They passed through the British It ittadron, and his Majesty's ship fired a salute of 21 guns, ~.* h ich was returned with an equal number. A more in 7esting spectacle than that affi,rded by the junction of the 'wct fleets has been rar,ly beheld. L '' On qpitting the Prince Rege nt ' s shi p I re p a ired on 4 , iard th e Hibernia, but returned immediately, aceorn 'lnied by Sir Sydney Smith, whom I p resented to t he p rince and who was received by his Royal Highness With the most marked and era, ions condescension ! " I have the honour to incicse lists of the ships of war which were known to have lett Lisbon this morning (he at that moment in Bruton-street), and which were in sight It few hours ago (pretty long sighs frolll Prntou-street to t he Tagus). There remain at Lisbon four ships of the line, and the same number of frigates, but only one of taeh sort is serviceable. " I have thought it expedient to lose no time in communi tc. his 31a)esty's Government the important 14, imputege TI uld auk , It 'suffices )rd sai;* Reegrment y a'' w imPu re :i 1 4 rived the of 0., , je,ty wou m, ever ' ' , and momm, t, , 8 Teti 1 a re'',,, seadton tone sot, , 0 me alli ', , '146 r nemor P's atrv- belieNlipe' w itnPutil' lor the con mthi o b. , ith co n fess a state ~, tilt Pty be 5ai1 1e , , , , , off the " given 10',IrlStit i n Bt but de' . ' h 4ern r i, e an d is so sel, 'lttles',7l Ilsehooa,,,: tt l3 , au Eng l .... Ogee , 1 :: 1 . 4 ,_t occasi did aot, „. , 6i, Roya l 'row tbe,, . We u►t !than e and dr was k ken n after genet contained in this despatch. I have, therefore, to apologize for the hasty and imperfect manner in which it is written.-1 have the honour to be, &c. ‘4 STRANGFORD." (The reading of the conclusion of this letter produced laughter in Court.) " The hasty and imperfect manner in which it was written"? He (Mr. B.) had heard of speeches, which had been prepared with all the care and la bour that industry could bestow upon them, being ushered into life by the preface of the speakers being " taken unawares—quite unprepared." But till this moment he had not seen a contemporaneous de spatch, written a month after the occurrence, be speaking indulgence . for ." the hasty and imperfect manner in which it was written." But, no doubt, the bustle in which the Noble Lord was in at the moment of embarkation—the sixes and sevens in which every thing was, necessarily, at such a mo ment—the bustle on the Tagus and in Lisbon— ought to be received as a sufficient apology for any imperfection which might appear upon the face of the document. But what did the Court think of the consistency of these papers, when they were told that this despatch, so far from being written under the pressure of any inconvenience or extraordi nary excitation at Lisbon, was written a full month after it professed to bear date, in Bruton-street, Lon don—not hastily and imperfectly—but with all that good advisement and deliberation which the writer could give to it. He (Mr. Brougham), however, made no charge of fabrication against Lord Strang ford. All he contended for at present was, that either the statements in this despatch, or pamphlet, were inconsistent with the fact. They were charged to be so in the libel, and not denied. Supposing, then, that Lord Strangford should be able to account for the discrepancies of these two statements—that it would be possible for him to explain away the staggering fact of the fabrication of the despatch, upon the ground that the public service required that mode of dealing—that a letter, written in Bruton-street, and published in December, should be dated from Lisbon, a month previously—sup posing all his allegations to be true, and that Mr. Canning, who was then Secretary for Foreign Af fairs, did tell him to go and write it as it was done-- supposing that this despatch was in fact compounded of other despatches, written in the Tagus (the most favourable way of putting the case) and that the original despatches of the data in que.s.tion were all written in the Tagus, and at the time, and that there was not a word in them that was not true ; supposing all that, and there was no going further than to concede to all that was contained in his own pamphlet, yet he (Mr. B.) submitted that the whole rested upon Lord Strangford's single averment that the pamphlet, if it be credited at all, ought to . be upon oath, and so accredited, however much the Noble Lord might be in the dark in his two sets of statements, and though the Court might think, and he (Mr.B.) should think, that it would be more cre ditable to him not to profess to write from the Tagus, when he was in Landon, if the Noble Lord had made his oath, generally averring that the statement was correct, he (Mr. B.) would not so confidently stand up in this place, as lie now did, for the discharge of this rule. But seeing that he did not deny a single allegation, and that the only answer he made to sub stantiate charges was a general statement,' " that he was a person 'worthy of belief upon his oath," it was to be hoped that the Court would not entertain this rule, or grant this Noble Lord the favour which he sought. Mr.W.J.ALFAANDEtt, upon the same side, pressed upon the Court the meagreness of Lord Strangford's affidavits, who had not substantially denied a single charge made against him, although, by the rules of the Court, it was incumbent upon him to purge himself explicitly, and come into Court with clean hands. The Learned Counsel also adverted to the fact of an apology having been inserted in The Sun on the 19th of August, subsequently to the publica tion of the libel ; and that so anxious was the de fendant to make all the reparation in his power, that he inserted the whole of Lord Strangford's apolo getic letter, although this document ran to a great length, and occupied - a great portion of his paper. Lord TENTERDEN asked if that was verified by affidavit ? Mr. BnouGtraar—Yes, my Lord, but I had for gotten to touch upon it. Mr.W..T.ALExANDEtt, in conclusion, observed that when the defendant had given Lord Strangford's defence in his own words, nobody could expect more of him. The ATIORNFX-GENERAL was then heard in sup, port of the rule. He contended, that as guardians of the characters of public individuals and pub lic officers, it was the duty of the Court to make this rule absolute. Their decision of this day would be regarded with interest. The question was, whether the Editors of Newspapers were to be allowed, by a juggle amongst themselves, to concoct libels, by borrowing a portion of the libellous matter from each other, and spiceing and seasoning it to suit the palates of their particular readers. Thus A. B. and C. D. concert a libel ; A.B. contributes a statement, C. D. raises inferences and deductions from that statement, and thus a gross libel is pro duced. Now that was exactly the case here. Their Lordships were aware that the statement was first published in the Times; this defendant, in the ordi nary course of editing his paper, transcribed it, and appended his own libellous matter to it. But the Editor of the Times, with whatever severity he might have commented upon Lord Strangford, for anything which that Noble Lord might have done respecting the memory of Mr. Canning, upon which comment he (theAt torney-General), gave no opinion, yet be had not ventured to say of him, that he was a person " not to be believed upon his oath or his honour." It was left for the Editor of the Evening Paper to go these lengths. So that if their Lordships discharged this rule, they would be giving a certain recipe for concocting libels.— His Learned Friend had said that Lord Strang ford was bound to reply ; but were these alle gations such as he could reply to ? This libel, if not lengthy, was at least pithy, it had not the deme rit of toe great length; but it bad the merit of con centration. A grosser attack had never been made upon any public man, than saying of him that he was unworthy of credit upon his honour or his oath. — With respect to the witticism at the end of the libel. he should not trouble the Court—it, was unworthy of remark. Now, much had been said of this des patch having been written, in fact, in one place, though it professed to be written from another. But this was a practice not unknown nor common in diplomacy. It often happened that certain expres sions had to be altered or abbreviated, or varied to suit circumstances, but till this time it had not been known that a man, who, with the consent of his Gevernment, made these alterations, was to be re garded as a person unworthy of belief upon his oath. This question was New. He submitted that this was an original libel in substance, and that it ought to be treated without reference to the transcript from the other paper. He should show that Lord Strangford was not called upon to answer every libel which might appear in a paper of the Ist of December, and for the facts of which the readers were told, " vide the paper of the Ist June." It was not incompatible to re-write a letter in London which had been 'mitten in the Tagus, and that a diplomatic agent who had made such alterations had never before been considered a man wanting in ho nour or honesty. In what book his Learned Friend found his warranty for so denouncing a man he (the Attorney-Gene'ral) could not imagine=--whether in Wickford, or Grotius, or any other learned work. The gist of the libel was the charge against Lord Strangford of his being unworthy of belief upon his oath. But what had that to do with his diplomatic character ? The Court would observe that his di plomatic character was entirely sunk, and an attack made upon his personal reputation. It was impos sible for Lord Strangford to defend himself against these attacks, for, to answer them, he must expose passages which had been suppressed, and thus com promise his character as a man, and his discretion as a Minister. And, after all, what did the diplomatic charges amount to ? Nothing more than that he had addressed one communication to the public, and the other to the Minister. But this took place every day. Every bolly knew that in diplomacy there were two copies prepared of all documents, No. I, for the Miriister's inspection, No. 2, for the public. This was justified by the nature of the public service. (Mr. Justice BAYLEY here shook his head, as if in disapprobation of the explanations of the Learned Counsel.) _ . The ATTORNEY-GENERAL—WeII, my Lord, it is the practice of these departments, and may be justi fied by necessity. Mr. Justice BAYLEY—I like honesty in all places, Mr. Attorney. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL observed that it was known every public Minister wrote public and pri vate despatches at the same time. The Learned Gentleman then continued to argue that, even sup posing Lord Strangford not to have been quite con sistent with himself in his diplomatic character, yet that was no justification for this libel. He was charged qua diplomatist with falsehood, and called upon qua a private individual to answer it. This was not fair, nor reasonable. Mr. littouctwr here said that they had affidavits to show that Lord Strangford had vilified Mr. Can ning's memory, but had- not used them, as he (Mr. B.) did not think they bore upon the question. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL followed upon the same side. He argued that this ought to be re garded as a distinct and substantive libel. Ordi nary readers of newspapers look no farther than the leading article, and that, therefore, ought to be treated as unconnected with any complicated and detailed statement taken from another paper. To charges so vague as these it was impossible to give a specific denial. In conclusion, he contended, fol lowing the Attorney-General, that there was no part of Lord Strangferd's diplomatic conduct which could not be justified. Their Lordships conferred together for a consi derable time, when Lord TENTERDEN said, we think the particular paragraph in The Sun, upon Lord Strangford, is not warranted to the letter by itself, and uncon nected with the extract from the Times ; but we think we ought to look at both statements as they are set out in the same paper; and, looking at the whole, and all the circumstances of this case, and the rules by which this Court has been governed, we think we ought not to make this rule absolute.-- Rule discharged. - - - - - THE ARMY. Detachments belonging to the 4th and 11th Light Dra goons arrived in town on Wednesday, from Maidstone, on the Recruiting Service. A Detachment belonging to the 19th Light Dragoons arrived in town yesterday from Dublin, on route to the Cavalry Depot at Maidstone. FASHIONABLE INTELLIGENCE. ARRIVALS. The Earl of Lisburne, in Albemarle-sheet ; Viscount Bar nard, in Connaught-place; Lady Elizabeth Fane, in Great George-street, from Sherburn Lodge, Oxfordshire ; the Mar quis and Marchioness of Thomond, the Ladies O'Brien, and Miss Hoare, in Lower Berkeley-street, from Richmond ; the Earl and Countess of Jersey. at their house in Berkeley-square, from their seat, Middleton Park, Oxfordshire - ; Lord and Lady Montague, at their house in Hamilton-place, from their seat in Bucks ; Prince and Princess Lieven, at Ashhurnham House, Dover-street, from Richmond ; Colonel Macdonald, in Picca dilly ; Lord Fitzroy Somerset, in Palace-yard, from Brighton ; Colonel Dashwoed, in Piccadilly, from Mexico ; Mr. Tinno, in Upper Brook-street ; Major and Mrs. Jeffries in Conduit-street ; Captain Caldwell, in George-street, Hanover-square, from Paris; Captain Fitzgerald, in Parliament-street; Baron de Cetto, in Grosvenor-street; Major and Mrs. Grant, in Curzon-street, May-fair, from Lisbon ; Mr. Tritton, in Gloucester-place; Mrs. and Miss Parry, in Harley-street, from Scarborough , Mrs. and Miss Walpole in Conduit-street, from Cheltenham ; Captain Hooper, in Pall-mall, from the lonian blonds ; Lord Graves in Argyll-street ; Colonel and Mrs. O'Reilly, in Bond-street, from Paris; Sir Godfrey Webster, Bart. from his seat, Battle Abbey, Sussex ; Captain and Mrs. Lloyd, in Brook_ street, from Cheltenham ; Richard Campion, Esq. at the Royal Hotel, St. James's-street,lrom a tour; Lord Lynedock, at War ren's lintel, Regent-street, from Herts ; J. Gregory, Esq. at Gould's Hotel, Jermyn-street, from Bath; Lady Mordaunt and the Misses Mordaunt, at Marshal Thompson's Hotel, Cavendish square ; the Rev. Mr. Tuckfield, at ditto; P. Hadow, Esq. and Mrs. Iladow, at ditto; Christopher Whichcote, Esq. at ditto; John Gwynne, Esq. at ditto. CHANGES. Lady Georgiana and Lady Elizabeth Russell, for Brighton ; Lord Say and Sele, for Belvidere Park; the Duke of Devonshire, feom Devonshire House, for Brighton; Mrs. Ashwell, from Nalding's Hotel, Hanover-square, for her house at Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire ; Sir Edmund Stanley, Lady Stanley, and Mrs. Boutein, at Bath, from Cheltenham ; Major and Mrs. Kelly, for Bath ; Captain and Mrs. Cooper, for Dublin; Mrs. and Miss Hare, for Bath ; Captain Bouchier, for Chatham, Kent; Captain and Mrs. Maxwell, for Bath ; Earl Spencer, from his house in. St. James's-place, for Lord Bagot's seat, Illithfield, near Litch. field, Staffbrdshire ; the Earl of Cassillis, from his house i n Privy-gardens, for his seat, St. Margaret's, Middlesex; Captain Fitzclarence, from the Royal Hotel, for Portsmouth; J. iMet calfe, Esq. from ditto, for l'aris ; Mrs. Knight, from the London Hotel, Albemarle-street, for Canterbury ; William Lloyd, Esq. from the British Hotel, Jermyn-street, for Cambridge; Le Compte and Compte'se de Sailly and Robert Harvey, Esq. from Marshal Thompson's Hotel ; Captain and Mrs. Probyn and to nal Iy, from ditto; Sir Montague Cholmley, Bart. Lady Cholmley, and M. Cholmley, Esq. M.P. from do.; P. J. Hart, Esq. from do. ARRIVALS AT THE ALBION HOTEL, BRIGHTON. Lord Templetown, Hon. Miss Upton, General Grosvenor, Sir Hutton and Lady COoper, Sir Edward Carrington, M.P., Mr. and Miss Blane, Mr. Carpenter, Mr. Laleham, Mr. Edward Moore, Mr. Irving, Mr. Blanshard, Mr. Lumley, Mr. O'Brien, Mr. French, Mr. Prime, Mr. Wild, Mr. Boyd, Mr. Lamb. ARRIVALS AT THE OLD SHIP HOTEL, BRIGHTON. Mr. Edward Windus, Mr. and Mrs. Cottingham; Mr. Church. Mr. E. H. Bankes, Mrs. and Miss Smith, Mr. Stroud, Mr. Ed. wards, Mr. Harris. ARRIVALS AT THE STEYNE HOTEL, BRIGHTON. The Hon. Mrs. Fox, Mrs. and Miss Marsden, Mrs. and Miss Garrow, Mr. Mrs. and Miss Rogers, Mr and Miss Gratton, Mrs. Blackford, Mr. and Mrs. W. Browne, Mr. Tennant, Mr. ign tosh, Mr. James Harding. ARRIVALS AT THE YORK HOTEL, BRIGHTON. Sir T. Wilson, Lord Lilford, Captain Patten, R.N. Mr. Hol land, Mr. Bristow, Mr. York, Mr. Anderson, Mr. W. Currie, 11ev. 1)r. Davies, Mr. Field, Mr. and Mr& Cottley, Mr. and Mrs. I lenry Cottley. ARRIVALS AT WEYMOUTH. Theßev. Mr. Pugh, Rev. Mr. Beane, Mr. and Mrs. Drew, Mr. and Mrs. French, Mr. and Mrs. Bealby, Mrs. Meech, Mrs.Tooke, Mrs-Westley, Miss Nogg. Th e Bishop of OXFORD had interviews yes terday with the Duke of WELLINGTON and Mr. Secretary PEEL. Captain STIRLING, the commander of the vessel appointed to carry out the settlers and others to the destined new settlement on the Swan River, in New South Wales, was engaged with other gentlemen interested in the expedition, at the Colonial-offic e yesterday for a consider able time. _ _ rV The new Spanish Minister, the Hanoverian Minister, the Earl of ABERD EEN , an d L or d ELLEN BOROUGH, had interviews yesterday with the Duke of WELLINGTON, at the Treasury. The Recorder will make his report of the pri soners that were capitally convicted in the October Session at the Old Bailey, to the Km: in Council on Monday next, at two o'clock, at Windsor Castle, EXPLANATION OF THE RECORDER. (From The Times.) SIR-The publit will, I ant sure, read with astonish ment the "explanation" given yesterday at the Court of Aldermen by Mr. Recorder. The introductory part of his speech, until we come to his fatigue at the Castle Inn, at Windsor, at half-past eight o'clock, is all " caviare to the general." Here, then, let us pin hiM. _ "He was ex ceedingly fatigued." Admitted. " His duties were not slight." Admitted. God forbid they should be, when the, life and death of his fellow-creatures depended, in a great measure, on the proper discharge of those " duties." But to go back to the Castle Inn. He was "obliged to oc cupy himself in writing." Let this also he admitted.— But, good God, Sir, could any occupation in writing be more important than a despatch to Newgate, fraught with ,the anxiously-expected decision on the fate of these 49 poor wretches? No, Sir, this obligatory writing occupation was not on any such unimportant subject. Mr. Recorder could neither write despatches, nor come to town. "He felt unable to return to town till next day." He does not tell us whether his " care-worn eyes" courted sleep ; but as he stayed all night, the inference is that he went to bed.— But could he sleep? Could he " Steep his senses in forgetfulness," whilst all those emotions were so powerfully awake, har rowing up the feelings and hopes of the wretched convicts and their guiltless relatives and connexions? Well, Sir, Mr. Recorder does not find his way to London till three o'clock on the next day ; and then—and not till then, he thinks it time to send his winged Mercury (who is two hours and a half speeding his way from Lincoln's Inn fields to Newgate) with .the fiat for the execution of three human creatures on Monday next ! But the Recorder tells his hearers that "the delay was unavoidable." Well might the Court think the delay not unavoidable, but unwarrant able. I know not a more legitimate use to which the in dependent and powerful part of the press can apply itself, than in the exposure and castigation of those who can only be made vulnerable through the influence of public opinion. —I am, Sir, your daily reader, J. B. Thursday, Nov. 2'7. - - - SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. TATTERSALL'S. It will be seen by the subjoined statement, that Lord Exeter's fillies have changed places [for the Oaks, Yarns having at length got the choice. One of the principal betting men has been backing her very strong lately, while Green Mantle Las been rather out of favour. No other change took place on this Stakes. The Derby betting was dull, nothing being backed to any amount, except the Posthuma colt, whose party, though small, stand very heavy on him. The King's horse is gradually giving way, and one or two others are tottering. The following is a correct statement of the latest odds : DERBY. to 1 agst Lord Jersey's Will-o'-the-wisp to 1 agst Lord Sligo's Prince Eugene to 1 agst His Majesty's Electress colt to 1 agst Mr. Forth's TlieExquisite 20 to 1 agst Lord G. Cavendish's Brother to Sontag 20 to 1 agst Lord Sefton's Morris Dancer 20 to I agst Lord Exeter's Augusta colt 20 to 1 agst Lord Exeter's Ada colt 20 to 1 agst Mr. Pettit's Posthuma colt 20 to 1 Lgst Duke of Rutland's Brother to Moses 25 to 1 agst Lord Egremont's Brother to Lapdog 25 to I agst Lord Verulatn's Ombre 25 to 1 agst Mr. Batson's Luss filly 25 tot any other. OAKS. to 1 agst Lord Exeter's Varna (taken) to 1 agst Lord Exeter's Green Mantle to 1 agst Mr. Batson's Luss filly to 1 agst Mr. Ridsdale's Clotilde to I agst Mr. Payne's Quadrille filly to 1 agst Duke of Rutland's Sorcery filly to 1 agst Sir J. Shelley's Maresfield filly (taken) HUNTING INTELLIGENCE. APPOINTMENTS FOR TILE ENSUING WEEK. Lord Harewood's Fox•hounds, on Monday, at Wother some ; Wednesday, at Deighton Bar; and Friday, at Ur skill—at ten. The Brighton Harriet's, on Monday, at Patcharn ; Wed nesday, near the Race Course ; and Friday, at the Dyke— at half-past ten. The Brookside Harriers will continue to meet every Monday, at Newmarket ; Wednesday, at the Lewes Race Course ; and Friday, at Tellescombe Tye—at half-past ten. The Hambleden Hounds, on Monday at the Staunton Arms, Rowlands Castle; Wednesday, at Westmeon Hut; and Friday, at Corhampton Down—at half-past ten. The Anglesea Hounds, on Monday, at Treban-gate ; Wednesday, at Gaerwen-mill—at half- past ten. The Cheshire Hounds, on Monday, at the Kennel ; Wednesday, at Darnhall ; Thursday, at Oulton Park ; and Saturday. at Rocksavage—at half-past ten. The Gransden Hounds, on Monday, at the Hardwicke Arms; and Friday, at the Kennel—at ten. The Puckeridge Hounds, on Monday, at Furneaux Pel ham; Wednesday, at Birchanger ; and Saturday, at Watton. The Cottesmere Hounds, on Monday, at Empingham Wood ; Tuesday, at Wing ; Thursday, at Stocken-hall ; and Friday, at Owston Wood—at a quarter before eleven. Sir Rich. Sutton's Hounds, on Monday, at Glentworth; Tuesday, at Branston Wood ; Thursday, at Spittal and Tower on Moor ; and Saturday, at Saxilby anti Kenwick Thorne Bar—at eleven. The Worcestershire Fox-hounds, on Monday, at Monks Wood ; Thursday, at Freize Wood ; and Saturday, at Breckeridge Furze—at half-past ten. Upton•upon-Severn Harriers, on Tuesday, at Pendock ; and Friday, at Welland Common—at ten. Mr. Dansey's Hounds, on Tuesday, at England's-gate; and Friday at Credenhill Village—at ten. Mr. Lester's Hounds, on Monday, at Mr. Clapcott's Farm ; Wednesday, at Lilliput Hills ; and Saturday, at Corfe Hills—at half-past ten. The Somerset Subscription Fox-hounds, on Monday, at Slowly Wood ; Wednesday, at Coombe Sydenharn ; and Friday, at Langhatn Break. The l3lackmoor Vale Hounds, on Tuesday, at Leigh Common, near ('en Forest; and Friday, at Toomey Hill, near Caundle Brake. The Cadbury Harriers, on Monday, r.t the Wheat Sheaf; and Thursday, at Milborne Wyke. THE RING. HARRY JONES AND TOM REDDIE.—Last night, at Tom Gaynor's, the second deposit in this match was made; 15/. a-side are now done. WARD AND BYRNE.—A letter has been received by Mr. Spring, from Scotland, giving full authority and sup plying source of funds to proceed with the match en behalf of Simon Byrne, with Jem Ward, for 1001. a-side. But oa account of the fight on Tuesday next, this meeting is proposed to be deferred till Wednesday. The Committee of the Fair-Play Club had a meeting last night at the Castle, Holborn, at which it was ascer tained that the funds in hand still amount to 58/. 14s. 9d. A resolution was passed to announce the benefit for the friends of the Club, to take place at the Tennis Court on Boxing-day, immediately; and it was decided that bills should be put in circulation for that purpose, at Harry Bolt's benefit, on Thursday next. The Spaiish Minister transacted business yesterday with the Earl of ABERDEEN, at the Office of the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs. NATIONAL BENEVOLENT INSTITUTION.— A General Meeting of the Life Governors and Subscribers to this Charity took place on Thursday last at Freemasons' Hall, when thirty-five additional Pensioners were elected on the Establishment.—lt is a gratifying circumstance, that in the administration of the affairs of this Charity, the claims of those who are destitute of friends to canvas for them are not disregarded, seven of the most aged and dis tressed among the unsuccessful Candidates being added by the Committee.—By the Report read at the Meeting, we were happy t o fi n d that the Institution has this year ac quired the kind patronage and support of two additional Members of the Royal Family, and its funds have been augmented by a most munificent donation of One Thousand Guineas presented by Mrs. ANN PARTIS of Bath. As the election of candidates for the City of London General Annuity Society takes place on the sth of January next, at the London T avern , the attention of the subscrib ers i s most earnestly entreated on behalf of D. I'. LYDON, now standing first on the proxy paper, who has been n e a r ly f or ty y ears co nnected with the daily journals, in favour o f w h om seve ral of the Nobility, Judges, and Barriste, have subscribed ; and who, besides, has the most sat,isfactory testimonials to character through life. This, i n d ee d, i s th e fourth, and, probably, last effort of the appliCant, in the evening o f his d ays , fur obtaining such assista`nce as will enable him to pass his r ema i n i ng years in comParative comfort ; and it is hoped th a t, co n siderin g h ow m \ APY of his valuable patrons are unavoidably now absent froni -, the Metropplis, his humble claims to support will not be overlooked by the public at large. Proxies, or subscriptions on his behalf, will be received by Mr. Stephens, Manager at the Mendicity Office, Red Lion pure, Holborn. CATHOLIC MEETING at MANCHESTER. On Tuesday evening a Meeting of persons pro fessing the Roman Catholic Religion, was held in the Mechanics' Institution, for the purpose of con sidering the propriety of petitioning Parliament for the Repeal of the Laws affecting that body. The Meeting was called for seven o'clock, andl e iy thg a i li: va tle s to p be d past thatel hour,and the s thegallery, trsand in wfiieitthe me passages leadi ng t o it, a very ss e s were literally crammed; the great er part composed respec otarhmlee sp ch r a i n n i k e l s i ng and of personsoperati‘' operatives, t but l : e Ilw ithpr la Tilos. BoonntAN, jun. Esq. was unanimonsly called to the Chair. The Rev. Mr. CROOKE, (a Roman Catholic Priest) came forward to propose the first Resolu tion. He said the proposition - was simply, that an inalienable right which every man ought toposses3, was the right of worshipping his God according to his own conscience, without any curtailment of his civil rights. Mr. GREENOUGH seconded the Resolution, which was carried unanimously. The Rev. H. GieLow (a Roman Catholic Priest) proposed the second Resolution, nearly as follows : When I came to the meeting 1 did not intend to take any part in it, but since I came a Resolution has been thrust into my hand. The Resolution maintains the loyalty of the Roman Catholics to the House of Brunswick. With respect to our allegi ance to the Pope, I say it is entirely and purely confined to religion--to spiritual concerns. (Ap plause.) It has nothing to do with civil matters. The Pope may appoint fast days; days of abstinence, he may make alterations in the discipline of the Church, but he has nothing to do with civil rights, with the making of laws, with declarations of war, or indeed with any thing civil; and if ever the Pope should step out of the pale of the Church, if he should interfere with our civil rights, the Catholics would meet him sword in hand. (Applause.) Were the Pope to send his Roman legions to invade our shores, and were he to effect a landing, though he were backed by all his foreign Bishops and all their power, we should consider it our duty to command you--to Command all our congregations to arms, to march forward and meet him in the field.— (Loud and continued cheers.) We should command you to gird on your swords and meet him; and if he should present himself at the heed of his troops, and fall by the hands of a Catholic, we would raise a monument to the man that laid him low. (Tre mendous cheering.) SuCh is the nature of our alle giance to the Pope. But we are supposed to be naturally disloyal : indeed, every means have been taken to render us so. Only look at the late war. During that period were there not thousands and tens of thousands of Catholics led to Catholic coun tries to fight - against Catholic armies ? That was the time for.them to show their disloyalty, when by joining the enemy they could have driven the British lines back into the ocean. But no sooner were they ordered to advance than they rushed on like lioas ;, and even the Duke of Wellington had declared that there were not in his army braver or-better soldiers than the Catholics. (Applause.) This conduct belies the accusation of our disloyalty. They say we are disloyal, and yet they intrust all that is dear to them to our loyalty ! The Reverend Gentleman sat down amidst loud cheering. • • Mr. THOMAS TURNER seconded the motion, which was carried unanimously. Mr. ROBINSON proposed, and Mr. COUPE second ed, the third Resolution, which was also passed unanimously. Mr. RosSON, after some observations on the mis chiefs produced by the oppressive laws against the Catholics, prleeeded to state that a number of opu lent individuals have formed a society in this coun try, with a view of investing capital in Ireland; in the establishment of manufactures, in the redemp tion of land, and, thereby, to extend the foreign and domestic trade of that country—an undertaking pro. fitable as it is patriotic, if steadily, patiently, and systematically followed up. The gentlemen who compose the society are persons who, from their wealth, can (to use a mercantile phrase) afford to lie out of such capital as they subscribe, for an indefi nite period. The individuals who have thus deter mined to act, are, to a man, Protestants. I received my retainer to proceed to Ireland at the termination of the Autumn circuit, and was selected from the cir cumstance of its being known to some that I had received part of my education in commercial pursuits at Liverpool, as a preparation for the study of com mercial law, in the practice whereof in that town, I commenced my legal career. I feel bound also to state, that the share of professional support I have hitherto received has emanated, exclusively, from members of the Established Church, and of the Presbyterian and Methodist communities. — I was sent to Ireland by my opulent and patriotic clients, as their Counsel, to represent, when and how I should in my discretion think fit, the senti ments with which they were impressed, viz, that until tranquillity were assured--and it could not, in their judgment, be otherwise assured than by the concession of equal political rights—they had passed a resolution, subject to be modified by my repro, not to embark a single guinea, though fully prepared to invest large sums, until that consummation so devoutly to be wished. My report, after travelling nearly over the whole island, has fully confirmed them in their original determination. I have stated to many leading Irish Protestants—to those in particular who are incurably hostile to the en franchisement of their Catholic fellow-subjects, that my clients considered the political relief of the Catholic population a condition precedent to any effectual amelioration of the state of Ire land—that the existing differences were so many obstacles to the safe employment of the capital they were anxious to invest—that every part of the British empire ought to be open to every British subject wherein to embark his wealth, and carry on his lawful business—that the penal code, which had begun by degrading the Irish Catholic, had at length involved in its serpent coil, the Protestant and his best interests, by lessening the value of the • land wherewith the Irish Protestant is so largely en dowed, and deterring the English Protestant capita list from settling in a country (and thus strengthen ing Protestant interests) which offered advantages beyond any other to the merchant, the manufac turer, and the a griculturist. Such were the senti ments and opinions I was commissioned to express. I had the opportunity of calmly and privately stating them to many men unhappily wedded to a system of misrule, calculated only, by perpetuating dissension, to let foreign nations into the secret of the weakness of the right arm of England. The same, in sub ' stance, I had also the honour of urging at the two great Provincial Meetings in Leinster, holden at Kilkenny and Mullingar. But, if the Ascendancy Party are slow to take the advice of Englishmen of their own creed sincerely inclined to assist, with mind and means, in the great work of the rege neration of their country, let them listen to the statement of an independent and able Protestant of the North, who dwells among them, and who has unanswerably shown that their system, so far from maintaining, as they fondly think, their , (hiding pe wer, is actually driving into voluntary exile the Pro. testant yeomanry, the artisan, and small trader, the sinews o f th e i r own body. I quote the writer $ words :—" Emigration has gone o n increasi ng In a fearful ratio. The roads to Belfast au, every day, literally crowded with people going into voluntary exile. I have just seen a procession of emigrants going down High street to the quay, in grotiv. that would require the pen of Scott and the pencil of Wilkie to describe and delineate, My friends in the North require not to be told of what religious per suasion the great majority of those persons tire who annually quit Ireland for North Ameriw and should the stranger in Ireland, as lie lingers on hi s way some spring or autumn evening, be attracted by a spectacle which will recal to his mind the beautiful description of Goldsmith, while the melancholy notes of music fall upon his ear, as they breathe forth the farewell of the emigrants t o t h ose th e y leave behind them—let him stop tQ pontemplate the f bothjlin give n ,: ; group that follows the heavy laden waggon, as it winds slowly up the hill; and when the parti ng i s over; when, amidst tears and sob s , no t a l one t h e tears that flow from the warm heart of youth, and the sighs that burst from the breast of woman, but tears that scald the fu rrowe d c heek of age, and sobs that shake the frame of manhood, let the stranger, I say, make enquiry into th e littl e stories of the wanderers, and he will find, in nine eases out of ten, that those who are going into voluntary exile are Protestants." Thus it is, that the unnatural system that has too long prevailed in Ireland, has made that unhappy country in its pre sent state, no longer worth living in, even to the Protestant—who happens to possess a little capi ta l and skill ; t h at ca pit a l and skill he ca n carry to a better m ar k et , to a l an d of real liberty, wh ere par tisan'Magistrates an d re li g i ous discord are unk nown; where every c iti zen , without distinction of sect or creed, is eligibl e , an d, if d u l y qua lifi e d b y ta l en t s an d knowledge, may a s pi re to t h e hi g h est offices in the by turns the victims of-this rottenness ri :she andtie d ;1e disease t o State. Thus it is that P rotestant an d C at h o li c. are the State, drawing influential individuals creeds from their private affairs t o act as mediators betw irritationeenoafst contendingite heinjured rtendessto to theparties,and dark va p our of the dungeon, and ease to the throbbing; of a broken heart;"---like the female Samaritans, th e Beguines, following the march of two mighty ad verse hosts, to dress the wounded and comfort the dying after the conflict, these great and good men yet maintain the peace of Ireland. But they are as sisted by those whom I heard a Minister of the Crown declare to be the " unpaid police of Ireland" —men who pass their lives, day and night, in the never-ending performance of their sacred duties—in offering up the public sacrifice, preaching the word to the faithful, instructing little ones, carrying the alms of the church into the hiding-places of the Iln fortunne, turning the desolate cabins, where the potatoe-pot and last blanket have been sold to liqui date rent, already paid to a middleman, into public asylums for age, and indigence, and disease; tra versing, with their blistered and venerable feet, the depths of the valleys and the sharp summits of the mountains, to dispense knowledge and the comforts of religion among the innocent inhabitants of rich but uncultivated plains, watered by noble streams, running to waste, and terminating, as they roll their majestic waters to the ocean, in most safe, most commodious, but shipless harbours ! yes, the virtuous course pursued by the ca lumniated priest to preserve the morality of his flock, and iusulcate obedience to the laws, has been adopted by an illustrious Irishman, to keep alive the patriotism of the people, the chieftain of his clan, who has quitted his native mountains to assert his country's liberties. In the midst of a wild and romantic country, of vast extent, the pa trimony of his house, I saw him give the little leisure snatched to repair the ravages of continual labour ; aye, even during the casual pauses of sport in a mountain hunt, I saw him seated on a rock, admi nistering justice to his grateful tenantry, who fol lowed him in crowds, anti referred all their litigation and disagreement to tile pure equity of his decisions. I saw those against whom he decided, convinced of its propriety, leave him with blessings. What a contrast does not the conduct of O'Connell (cheers) furnish to the present race of our enemies; who, when asked to concede rights purely civil, dwell only upon what they call the errors of our religious sys tem. Without enlarged views as citizens of the in terests of their country, and with minds clouded with the odium theoltigieunt, they become peculiarly dis qualified to legislate on the question of conces sion of civil privileges. In truth, these men live in a territory of their own; see every thing by :preposterous rule, are inaccessible to argu ment. They resemble, as Lord Plunkett observ ed of them, wrecks lying high and dry, bilged and stranded, around which tho returning tide of argument, though it flow twice a day, would flow in vain. Another mighty intellect, Lord Bacon, de scribes similar persons in his time, who were in the habit of arguing, approVing a little, asserting a great deal, and then jumping to a conclusion. After some further observations on the conduct of the Brung. wickers, Mr. Rossetti said, it remains for the Mini sters of the Crown to consider, independently of every motive of justice and sound policy which has been reiterated, from year to year, by every man de serving the name of Statesman, whether it be wise to persevere in a system whose ramified mischiefs have begun to neutralize the efforts of commercial enterprise, and check the investment of capital in a country, above all others, calculated to yield a sure return—whether it be wise in the Noble Duke at the head of his Majesty's Government to pursue a course which must inevitably tend to, place a power. ful moneyed interest, in addition to all he has now to struggle with, in constitutional opposition to his meastires ? The !seemed Gentleman concluded his speech amidst the most tremendous cheering we ever heard, and which lasted for some minutes. He then read the resolution, and proposed three cheers for old Ireland. We should think the Irishmen must have mistaken his meaning, for they gave nearer forty than three cheers. Mr. LED: seconded the Resolution, which was carried' with great enthusiasm. Mr. JOHN BOOTH:HAN proposed a vote of thanks to the gentlemen who had signed the counter-de claration to the 13runswickers, in last week's papers'. Mr. GRAY seconded the motion. The Rev. Mr. MARROCKS read the petition, whi c h was nearly a transcript of the Resolutions just pa‘;sed, and moved its adoption. Mr. PATRICK SPENCE, the soldier who some time ago obtained some notoriety by a speech in defence of his religion, delivered at a meeting at Liverpool, seconded the motion. Mr. Rossos moved, and Mr. DELAIYNEY seconded, a Resolution, that the petition should be sent to Lord Stanley, to be presented by him to the House of Commons, and that to the House of Lords by his revered father, the Earl of Derby. The Chairman having left the Chair, it was sak es , by the Rev. Mr. Crooke, when the thanks of the meeting were given by acclamation to Mr. Booth man, for his gentlemanly and conciliating conduct in the Chair. Mr. BOOTHMAN returned thanks. The Meeting, after giving three cheers for Old Ireland, and three for Daniel O'Connell and the Catholic Association, broke up at a quarter before ten o'clock. The following were the resolutions passed at the Meeting : " That it is the inalienable right of every man to worship God according to the dictates of a sincere conscie • nee without being subjected to the curtail ment of civil privileges. ,‘ That the loyalty of the Catholic Body has been unimpeachable through many years of persecution, and that they now yield to no class of his Majesty's subjects in devoted attachment to the House of Brunswick. "That the continued and exclusive debasement of one-third of the gross population of these kingdoms has pradueed a state of society which every good Chnistian and loyal subject must deplore; that, whilst it severs the endearing ties of society, it de stroys the most effective energies of the empire, whether of peace or of war • and that these evils must increase so long as the ' Roman Catholic Body are singled out as objects of degradation. " The concessions of our claims would allay the spirit of just discontent that pervades the Irish people and their brethren in Great Britain, and tend to remove both the cause of absenteeism, an d en courage the introduction of British wealth and skill, anti industry into Ireland--whereby not only em• ployment would be given to the starving p apu tol on of that much.injured country, but large returns made to England herself, by multiplying the agricultural productions of Ireland, and increasing the consump tion of British manufactures ; thus mutually opening new sources of opulence, and strength, and great. nest to the empire at loge."