The Sun. — London, England, 1819-09-30 00:00:00

otepseaa'il,lhe acre: and seconder of the Res ,- liiiinot.—(Lutgliter and epplause.) The Resolutions were put and caltied. Thanks having previously been voted to Mr. Waithman, Mr. WA IT ti MAN Said he had been unwilling to interrupt the proceedings to return thanks for the honour which lie had received, as he thought it desirable that the business should first be brought to a conclusion. He proceeded to descant on the wrone. , of which tire Lively hail to complain, arid rent-ir ked, that at a tone when every little 80-7,..,gh 7,..,gh and Colporation in the kingdom had en joyed the piivilege of petitioning against certain 'faxes on coffee, and or her articles then about to be imposed, ;he Lively of London had been de• vied the exercise of that right. Was it to be en dured, that the great Bashaw of the City should dots say to them, you shall not petition against new hardens being thrown on you ? Were they to be told that the Court of Continuo Council should be allowed to petition, but the Livery should not ? Ile proceeded to condemn the 41.10 gal , cco f those who bad assembled in a tavern—to du what Why, to keep all the Livery peaceable. It had been secs this day what a sample. of moderation these friends to good order had proved themselves able to supply. It these men were capable of shame, th,y would now hide their diminished bends, and look for caverns dark enough to hide their tionortrous inconsistencies. 'sot only had t bey the atohot ity of Mr. Dutioiog, of Mr. Molder-- but n, and othar eminent legal non, as well as the NH of Rights, against them on the ptesent occa sion, but they had, btsides these, one authority opposed , o them, which would he considered (by them) more impol tan: than all the rest put toge ther. Looking over the proceedings of the Li very in !mulct n times, he had found that a Report had been received from a Committee, and certain Resolutions taken into consideration on the day of election, with the full appiohatiou of one (Ili tioguished iudividaal, before proceeding to the regular business. 'lire great name to which he allured fls giving its sanction to such a course, was no other than that of Mr. Samuel Dixon.— Be then commented on the manner in which the Common Stojeaut had on this occasion deviated from the practice of the members of the legal profession, by volunteering an opinion without is fee. He concluded by repeating that it was his opinion that the Livery had this day taught their fors a lessou which they would never forget, and they had only to act as they did now, and as they did when returning Alderman Conibe, to secure their rights and liberties. Mr. TtiosipsoN, in returning thanks, declared it to have been his determination to remain there until that time to-morrow. lie praised Mr. tiheriff Parkins, and described Mr. Sheriff Both well, with all his plausibility, to he hostile to the Principles just acted upon by the Livery. lie hart heard that the Prince Regent had lately been presented with a suriff-box, on which certain passages from the Bible appeared, which hail made him look very seticus. Wondering what could produce this effect, he hail seat cited the Old testament for the cause, and had discovered that the Bible was a very seditious hook. It would not surprise him, that if the Lord Mayor knew of such book, it he were to apprehend some of tho'c Gentlemen "rho were Members of the Bible So: rises, for disseminating sedition like that whi h he would now read —(He then read the following passages from Isaiah):— Ilow is the faithful city become an harlot ? It was full of judirrnent, ri;; htcousness Judged in it ; hut now murderers." " The Lord will enter into judgment with the ancients of his people, and the Princes thereof ; for ye have eaten up the vinertrd ; the spoil of the poor is in your houses." " What mean ye that ye beat my people to pieces, and grind the faces of the pour ? saith the Lord God of Hosts." He conelinkd, exhorting the Livery to tile rather than sacrifice an iota of their liberty. He moved the thonks of the Livery to Mr. Si miff Parkins fur the very honourable, dignified, and upright manner in which he had conducted himself, toge ther with a declaration that they acknowledged him their Upper Sheriff. ',l2::e Resolution :vas carried. Mr. Sheriff PARKINS returned thanks, and said he should leave it to the Livery to detcrmine whe ther lie was to be regarded as the Senior Sheriff Cr nor. Mr. STEVENS censured the recent conduct of the Nlagisirates of the country, and dewrib ed the Lord Mayor to have imitated the 'Magis trates nt Ma:ld:ester. He 'vas told tliat be had *worn io for that day an additional number of constables.—(Cries of " Speak the truth."--" He has not sworn in one.")—lf he had done so, they could only be wanting for the Gentlemen on the Hustings to his right hand.—He moved a vote of thenks to Mr. Hunt, The motion having been carried, Mr. HUNT spoke as follows :—Vellotr-citizens, Gentlemen—l shall detain you but a very short tune. One of the Loyal Livery has jolt had the alecency to ask me '' where my wife is ?" 1 shall only answer that she is not where his is—kept at the public expence. 1 don't know hint, 11e is not svorth your not ice. Gentlemen, allow me--- and I crnaide in your indulgence-1 am in no Inirry—l am not to be posited on, otT my guard. If i had been liable to be so, 1 should not have received your thanks this day. I shall wait very patien•ly, and 1 am some you will indulge me, if 1 wait till those two or three hisses are at an end. Yon know e great deal too much of me—(A l a u g h, and cries of " Very true;')—to think that I ant to be lint down by clamour, and as von have given otter Gentlemen a f a ir 'hearing, 1 am sure that I may rely on being honoured , vith your attenti.n in any torn. If any of the Gentlemen who oppose me trill come here and address you, 1 hope von will give rhem a patient hearing. Not w.ihstznd ing the loyal Resolutions come to at the London Tavern Meeting, the extent tat the hats and hands held up here to-day did not prove that there arc 111 , ite than 12 who have the courage to short themselves. ‘aodld have been improper and indecorous in We to address you on the lie@olu tious you have parsed, as I not so intimately Con-. UCCied tvith them. So 1 only tliti my duty by aim, :drug op to secure a teilovv-citiLen a heat ;gig. shook not now have been litre, but that yrster -41.y I; . ixeivcd a letter to say, that if ariy Live r y. sn=ii add; eased yet t , or pro:m.sed 37)y Resolution, itt isas detertimiLd to send him illaucdiaiely to 1 " There is no •uutla in its show the lotter—produce the letter.") Mr. THOMPSON said, it the Lord Mayor did not p ro d uce hi' plot, he did not see chat it was neces sary for Mr. Hunt to produce his letter. Mr. HUNT resuMed. Although I have been so recently released Irons a dungeon, I thought it my duty to stand op, nut for my man rights, but for yools, nod that without consnhin,g any body as to what the eousequences were likely to be. I therefore put my nightcap in my pocket—(here he produced a nightcap, amidst the laughter of the Hall),—with the resolution that no one of my fellow-citizens should be arrested, without my placing myself instantly in the same situation. The threats of the Lord Mayor have all vanish ed in smoke, amidst almost universal execration. I thal:k you for the honour you have done me. I have always here conscientiously endeavoured to do try ditty. Oil the present occasion I have re ceived the approbation of my fellow countrymen. feel conscious of the rectitude of my intentions, nod am perfectly satisfied with my owu conduct. It has been said, that the Manchester people, far from offending, were forbearing to a fault; but I will ask in what situation would the people of Manchester have ben placed iu this day if they had been prepared to resist ?—(Cries of " Turo him out,"---" you're the cause of all.") One peon says shut I am the cause of all—with all my heart, notwithstanding some lives were lost. In a struggle of this nature, we had no right to think that we could regain our liberties without the loss of-some lives. I placed no one of the people in a situation in which I did not place my self. I pushed none of them forward kvi; loon b..- ing ready to go with them. You have expressed au opinion on the conduct of the Magistrates of Manchester, and on that of those whim were their agents ; I «•ill now !et:ice to von one trestt Euro- city, which came to my 'knowledge but last night. A person of the name of Hall, who, with his son, worked in a factory at Manchester, went with the youth to the Meeting ; the f.stber was cut down with a cut across the skull, and its conse quence he was carried to the Infirmary, where he remained many days. His son was discharged front the factory where he had worked under his father ; but such were their feelings, that they clubbed their pence together, and rmised among them the sum of Ss. 6d. with which they desired him to walk to London to find Mr. Iloont. lle came last night, his affidavit is prepared, and you will probably see it in some of theipublie papers to-morrow. I will now state one more fact. A father having lost his son, at about the time of the Meeting, inquired for him at the Infirmary, but was told that there was no such person there. He inquired again on the next day, being in formed by several persons that they had seen such a lad cartikd into the hospital. He was again de nied, hut the frantic father demanded admission, forced hit way in, and was at length permitted to search the whole of the beds. It turned out to be trite that his son was not there ; but just as he was coming out, happening to look behind the door, he exclaimed, "Though toy son is not here, yet I will swear that these are my son's coat, waistcoat, and breeches." Mr. 13ISTEAD returned thanks. Mr. IIuNT rose to move the concluding Reso lution. Doing this, he thought it right tO say, that the Common Setjeant had been the greatest violator of the public peace that day. in his en deavours to put down troth until justice, he had threatened Mr. Waithinatt that he should have a hearing in the Court of King's Benc►t, where he would not be allowed to say a word. Now though the Common Sarjeaot was a Judge in the City, he was nothing more than a junior Counsel in the Court of King's Bench. lie moved that the Re solutions should be iuserted in the usual Morning and Evening Papers. Before this motion was carried, it was moved that the thanks of the Meeting should be given to Messrs. Harmer, Pearson, and Dennison.—The motion being carried. Mr. PEAHEON returned thanks ; in (Wog which he enlarged on the horrors of the scenes be had witnessed at Mancheste►, and expressed his hope that those concerned in them would be brought to justice. The Common Council held the purse of the City. In former years they had given two thousand pounds to a Fund raised for Our brave Soldiers who had been wounded in foreign parts ; 10001. (or the Russian sufferers, and 10001. (or the Portuguese sufferers had been voted ; and in one instance there waa a grant of 2001. towards building an Episcopal Chapel in Canada. Oo this occasion he hoped something would be given in aid of the Manchester subscription. Ile was disposed to move that a Petition should be pre. sented to the Court of Common Council, praying them to make a grant for that porpoae. Mr. Hu NT moved the Resolution which the fast SpeAker had suggested, an►i it was carried. Ou the motion of Air. HUNT, it Was then or dered that the Resolutions should be inserted in the usual Morning and Evening Papers. Alr. STEVENS again came forward. The Li very had performed one important duty, but there remlined another still more important, in the performance of which they were now about to proceed, namely, the election of a Lord Mayor :or the year ensuing. It ap peared that the Livery had not the abso lute power of appointing a Lord Mayor, but only of returning tN%o to the Court of Aldermen, who would choose one of them to till the Civic. Chair. Ile therefore hoped the Livery would br4r this in mind, and return Aldermen kVood and Thorp, and thereby secure the election of one of them, for svithout this was done, all their exertions would prove abortive. liy this means the t.ystein of rotation would he done kv y with, and he wool(' now more that it svai nrcesiarily detrimental to (be principle of free election, to cotoinue to elect the ni.:xt Alderman in rntntion. Ile should tell them that Conimoil St. jemit bad intouncti hitt' 0141 the Resolution could not be put.---i,Cries Of it sh.ll CCIIHII:ly WKS the tiense of tile lit very that it should be, it% tVtiS for them now to say whether it trot.—The motion w 49 con nected with tt.e Iti•silitcs of the day, and in Ili, optnion ought to ne put. A question had hecit started, wheiti er or not the rotatory .ystrni should be kept up It it t all to be peiseveted itt, %Vila( Tit ll:y w-s tlieTe for the Livery ? for. his part, could sec none in tile world. Some fikews s io n now ensued, as to the pro priety of the trier puttirlg the question. That Gentleman having refuted to do so, 1I r. Parkins, 'he new Sheriff, Came forward and did so, and it was of course carried nunnimosisly,. The COMMON SERJEANT then came forward, and observed, that since the Meeting had heard the names of the persons put its nomination rem! over, two persons (Messrs. Hunt and Fearon) had also nominated Mr. Alderman Wood, and there fore that Gentleman would also be put in nomi nation. The Crier then came forward and read the fol lowing names in rotation :—Sir Matthew Blox• ant, Mr, Alderman Maguay, G. Brydges, Esq. William ileygate, Esq. Robert Albion Cox, Esq. John Thomas Thorp, and Mr. Alderman Wood. The Court here rang with applause and loud huzzas. The COMMON SBRJEANT stated the Election to have fidlen on Aldermen Thorp and Wood. A poll was then demanded on behalf of Mr. Al derman Brydges, and the necessary erections ac cordingly made. At s quarter past four the books were opened, remained so until a quarter past five, at which time the numbers were declared to be a 3 follows : - - Thorp 4C9 Alderthaii 13ry(Iges Sir J. :IYLVE3TEIC ve vute to Nlr. Alder -1111411 rigeS ; Mr. Ilont and Mr. Pc..rson, the Attorney, voted for Aldermen %Vont! and Thorp. Shorily before the numbers were declared, Mr. Fleet Came forward, and exhibited the following : " It you wish for either Alderman Wood or Alderman you must vote for both." 11r. HUNT, on the state of the poll being ex hibited, again came forward, and gave the signal for three cheers, which were given accordingly. Mr. l'itansoN now came forward —The state of the poll demanded a few words from the friends of those Geoilemen whose names appeared nt the top of those boards (piii ot i og t o t h e hoard.) He thanked them for their exertions this day, and expressed a hope that every man would come forward to-morrow and do his ditty, He enforced the necessity of every one giving a double vote, tool observed, that many Geode men had, in the course of this day's pull, given sitmgle ones, they not being aware (lint they could do otherwise. Nothing but giving double votes could accomplish their object, for it was necessary to return two Aidettneu to the Court fine their approval of one of them, and nothing would se cure their rights but the return of Aldermen Wood or Thorp. Of one of those Gentlemen it was well known that lie would on ail occasions call a Common Hall when required by the Livery, and there was not the slightest reason to believe that Alderman Thorp would not du the same. Mr. HUNT, having been one of the proposers of Aldermau Wood, could not help cowing forward to impress on their imitis the necessity of :exertion. Every Alr!erinan '.hat had this day given his vote had done so for Alderman Brydges.—(here Mr. Beachley loizzaed, which called forth consider able disapprobat proceeded—ll e hoped such a body of the Livery as lie then saw could not be offended at finding one solitary person have the hardihood to " huzza."—(Cries of name him, and torn him out, mingled with applause.) No, said Hoot, give every man an opportunity of being heard. A Gentleman behind hail informed him that the Gentleman who hod huzzaed was one of the Common Council, and had given his vote against the Resolutions they had unanimous ly adopted. Mr. BEACHLEY—I aid. —(Applause.) Mr. IIoNT proceeded :—'l here was ail old vul gar saying, that they should ' give the Devil 11;s due,' and they had now only to give this' Devil ' his due.—(Laughter.)-24.11 the Aldermen had acted contrary to the wishes of tile Livery, and it only remained for them to come forward and pro tect Iteinseives.—(A loud call on the speaker to eanse Mi. Beachley.)—That Gentleman was not worth tiaming ; he had expressed his opinion, and they had also expressed theirs ; and he called on them for God's sake not to let their animosity go out of the Hall, After thanking the Livery for their exertions in the " Cause of Liberty," and calling on every one who bad a wife, a sister, or a sweetheart, to use their exertions with them to procure their assistance, and make them collie forward', he retired. The Meeting then dispersed, after expressing their feelings towards the respective Candidates, and again cheering by the instructions of Mr. Hunt. FOR THE SUN. Nf n. EDlTOR—Accident threw in my way, this morning only, your Publication of Thursday last, in which you have given insertion to a hasty Letter of mine, addressed to the Editor of a respectable Provincial Journal, concluding with the signature of '"froth," and you have added to it, by way of comment, an observation - , that " the insidious hypocrisy, the venal vacillations, and the deep ma lignity of The Times demand something inore than the playfulness of ridicule, or the col,lness of On tempt ;" to the justice of this observation, I cor dially subscribe, and if I do not with sufficient strength, express the indignant frclings, which the perusal of the columns of that Paper, have lately excited, it is because Nature has not gitted me with a commensurate power of language. For many yeas past, I have taken this journal, consideting it, I confess to you, as one of the best that was published ; but, upon the first reading the account of the transactions at Manchester., I sa w, pa I thought, so notch of p re j u d ge d an d pre judiced matter, as to create in my mind, strong sensations of di-gust still, as yon know, one clings to an old acquaintance, I ties willing to ni,ake liberal allowances for the impulse of tire mouttnt, tinder which I thus y,ht it probable the Correspondent of The Timts had transmitted his communication, and I luuked in subsequent pub lications for a cool and dispassionate discussioct ss, of what led to, and what followed the unfortunate Manchester Transactions. I looked in vain—for although The Times soon after the first issue of its sentiments, began, aa• cording to a vulgar phrase, " to draw in it. horns," and to doubt the accuracy of the source from whence its information had been derived, yet, finding that the false colouring given to the Manchester events, had excited a popular clamour which might be useful in promoting the sale of it• numbers (for there lies the Truth) he adopted a stile, just as much in unison with this popular outcry, as might promote that valuable object--- now and then introducing, by way of salvo, a gently loyal ejaculation, in the hopes of acquiring the character (to which he proves to be least of all others entitled) of an independent and terested Journalist. My pursuits do not permit me the time, nor if they did, could you, I ant aware, allow your columns to be occupied by an analysis of the several observations to which the events at Manchester have given rise in the Paper allud ed to, but I appeal to thole who may have been in the habit of reading that Paper whee tiler, with the slight. exceptions to which I have referred, its constant aim has not been ter promote the views of these pseudo Reformists, but rather Revolutionists, and to destroy the effect of every constitutional effort to counteract them ; thus, although it atlaeittrcl the very set Bible and temperate letter from Southampton into its columns, without attempting to answer nue of the questions put, or to reply to the reasoning it contained, the Editor confined himself only to el general denial of the Writer's positions, and justi fied the organized assemblage of the immense multitude at Manchester, by tellieg us that the mischiefs to be applehended were merely " ere:- tool ;" Ia the same spirit too he complains that the Address from the Inhabitants of Blacklteeths which I adverted to in my former lettere " cunningly" avoided any allusion to the pro ceedings at Manchester. And in his reflections upon the late Meeting in Southwark, he has the impudence to charge the Ministry with having projected the passing a detachment of troops near the spot where the people were then assents bled, for what purpose ? To irritate the minds of the multitude and afford the military an opportus nity to act, mid shed the blood of their fellow" citizens ! ! 'Weak in talent and intellect as the Conductor of The Times has of late shew n himself to be, I cannot persuade myself that the imbe' cility of his , mind really leads him to bslieve the troth of what he promulgates, butt that it 'mist bg Kttribittattie to the '' deep malignity" of which you have accused hint—that he has attained A 111 Wit, enlarg.ed circulation, that the poison which he is distributing is extended in its effects, I eo awere, hot the weakness and futiloy of his argil" mews, the total absence of talent which lie no 4 displays, must, or 1 am mistaken in the good sense and constitutions! Loyalty of Englishmen. very soon esperate to contract that circulation. dismiss him trom principle ; indifferent, if tif, thinks proper to class me among thesse eveatteres to whom lee alludes in a Late Number. It I kiwi , ' myself I will yield to no one in genuine love my Country ; but it must not he a Country whole military afsceits are directed by Sir Rolsert ‘Vilsonr or whose Councile are vided by Mr. Hunt, nor' withstanding Sir Robert has professed himself 69 admirer of this person's talent slid ; Sir Robert, I believe, has Ikea 'moved nut to b e altogether infllllibte. Whilst hurnsti affairs are conducted by hogiari agency, there muse. and. will exist defects end joy' perfections : that it is our duty to correct them of notch as lies in n u e rosette no one will deny, Ho" I will venture confirlenely to assert, that titers never was a Parliament whose labour were more devoted to a substantial Reform of existing; a buse' then the lest. "lo those who are dissatisfied with the liberty they enjoy, and ere fond of contrast' ins the times of tuckr ancestors with the preseoi; allow me to recommend a perusal of the reign el Elizabeth, sill then ask them if those days exis t whee Juries were dictat ed to by those iu p o wers anti committed to custody if their verdicts wet . ° oat confottueble to their wishes ? One word more, although I doubt if you consider the irregular observations I have thror."l together worthy of i..sc“ion. rllll promise yol lt. readers, I Verct;ve, a History of The Times troll its origin ; leave you ascertaioed bow long ago it le since t he immeiliatepredeccssur of the present Eidir °r attended et the Treueury to receive his quarterlf payment ? if not, 1 believe 1 can do it for you, i c ' oist be, I think, about 2G years since.* M i r h chief is ever active, and is at this moment so ' ll a tenfold degree, it is therefore the bounden duos of e, tl y hottest man, and well wisher to b if county, to cotoribete is assistance to stop th e progress of the poison disseininatiog s whether it emsnetes from a venal Newspaper, needy And uopiitlcipled Deruggo4ots. 1 Am, Sir, Your butuffle. Servant, A MAN OF ii,EN.`• Maning, Sept. 9.9, 1819. 'floe Petion here alluded to Inuit proltalily have been t he Wear! (if the ‘‘ . .i„ hat rug brew long 10 the genii least s,i), not di,torlii a.ht 9, tit 1,1 Nis,. we "could a tie ;.irtiolil" 4 cue', n de s c ri r; tine ;,4 woolil reveal ;ill the arts arid my•teries Of riti Bi 'l;rir Nr,espaper hy any .11.1(°1111.V. I.Ve therefore c,nitolt «Oleg with touching upon the .11oINTle Ifi,totv of 'fig( 1 114 ,,:i And shall he glad of the aoli,tatic:. of 411 wito deteit „?; aposiary, that " ea,/ f?trn awl turn agrn'il," with tr° the 1 " ; ; , .5113iticic95 impudence, as snits ire ourposs. in utter Clef ee t t% for '.the ,eftfhinfi , :e Of