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. EVENING EDITION THE - EASTERN QUESTION. 4 , The following is a transcript of a note from the ReP reeenta- - . Liveg of the Fol. Powers, in reply to a communication to them hem the Ottoman Government : t~ei" T he "T he undersigned hav e th e h onour o f acknowledging the Pt of. the note, dated April 27, by which hisExcellency mu_ ei ellek ib Effendi, A m b assa d or o f t h e S u bli me Porte, incom Zetteatingt_t4::lllem the : i ns t ruc ti ons h e h as l a t e l y receive d , has p ow Plea•led to appeal to the Conference of the Foreign tb.....e.r:14 _t"adjust certain difficulties, which have arisen re tt-1. the interpretation of some of the clause s .. contained in "Mara is,ned on the 13th of February last, with regard The t4titshe definitive arrangement of the affairs of Egypt. il l , es ' respeetiter which the Sublime Porte desires to know t „, °Pinion of the'four Allied Courts, are confined to the three -Nowing points :- 1 . The question of heredite ; 2. The fixing ef the tribute ; and 3 . The military promotions. " 'The calgen regulations which serve to solve these three rquestions been determined, in principle, by the Conven -Ip4ot w hich . the Sublime Porte concluded on the 16th of July. , with -the Courts of Austria, Great Britain , Prussia, and eltts_sia. . h is accordingly to the principles laid down in that .401eeentiou that :he undersigned felt bound to refer, in the va .4 D..— • '. ill ix,- which they had the hen . our of address gto the,Otto A b d nd especially in their no.es . of sh e ~ man m assa or, a .. ts "'in •Lanuary and of March 13. Resting on the same basis, We p_andersigned, in compliance with the desire expressed by 1 celle neY Chekib Effendi, hasten to offer him the follow " QUESTION OF THE HEREDITE. . 4, 33 ,7: 1 1 Sult.an, in realizing the . in tention . which his High hig flian Ma:infested from the beginning of the Eastern crisis, la.?ennally announced his determination to leave the heredit- . administration of the Pachalic of Egypt to the family .? - 1 eheraet Ali, so long as he and his descendants should coin i f r to render themselves worthy of that favour, by fulfilling thf allY the conditions thereunto attached. The principle_ tan, legally admitted by the Sovereign authority . of the Stl n , there only remains to be regulated the mode in which t h e . Sul -12 :it °f Governor of Egypt shall be transmitted from one . m t e . rn- s of the faintly of : 1 1ehemet Ali to another. Now, has of agreed that that transmission should take place by it l a y, iej,nvestiture whi e h the Sultan will . grant to the new tiu ; . l is in accordance with that principle that his Highness, el reinstaf E gy , t nig 3,lehemet Ali in the functions of Governor of h as Feb ruary deigned to address to him the firman of the 13th of " Moreover th h t , by a special provision which the S , liltan. ve ta n s h as _.. proper to communicate to his Allies, that ._ov . e c e i o`_ll,)e,Pensed Mehemet Ali from repairing to Constautpopl a: t ? lai r i e r . to receiv e in that capital the investiture of his P Pa he w e ' At the same time his Highness deigned to declare that to c Quid dispense likewise Ibrahim Paella from proceeding Quid ' when he ' in turn should be called to succeed uri tnet-A ii in the functions of Pacha, and that the firman ii, nvestiture should then be sent to him in Egypt. In adept g this e i a c urt , . n , e, such a 3 it was communicated to the Allied am, to ',he Sublime Porte has itself indicated the mode agre.e -der,,2l'h.ieh his Highness proposes to provide for the h f Me a l l ' "mistration of the Pachalic of Egypt in the family o ern Ali ..sce oedi ' establish d •46 to this mode, and conformablwith the usages Pael la e 'lathe Ottoman empire, it is consequently . I . bra l li .e ini_ Paella ' 4ll O, as the senior descendant of the family, shall e n _ o,4he called upon to succeed Mehemet Ali in the post ot . i n ric l . of Eg ypt. 1,-- , virtue of the same rule, the senior member of the_ ii;°_4l after Ibrahim Pacha shall be considered as the Pre r ge paesthauiPicessor of Ibrahim in the post. of Gov ' erno tle Pleni llote„ti '°fERYPt. Such is the general rule which inter aries of the Allied Courts consideras best adapted . to the . the -- e s ' Ll 0 the Sublime Porte, and most in conformity l with ti.s e , ages e.tablished in the Ottoman empire. ht rep yi dressed the appeal which the Ottoman Ambassador has just ad Theete:', t hem, in consequence of an order of his Govern his "'Y hav e , thought proper to declare that the Rivet his u, th e e post of Governor of Egypt belongs exclusively to ea c h r i ll ss ; that this right is exercised, and manifests . itself en, tskii„ time hy the investiture conferred on the new . titular ?ot. d tons2!Tat the investiture granted by the sovereign tlth It thair e t e . 3 the title in virtue of which each new . Governor as al , n r _ eeilled to rule over Egypt, in the name ofhis Hihness, ;-: Tee !oming part of the Ottoman empire. " Th 4ll \ GOF THE AMOUNT OF TRIBUTE.. . Jely had 'separate act annexed to the Convention of the 15th of laid do it ot settled the amount of tribute to be paid. It only t, the I: n as a p r i nc i ple that a tribute should be paid annually ef te em _. el le, mid that it should be proportioned to the extent let i , "'I the a dministration of which should be entrusted h to h e a !t Ali, and that the Podia of Egypt, on condition impsva tio r ,, f ar,egular tribute, should collect the taxes and Proud established in the name of the Sultan, and should . ti le _ :toe all the expenses of the civil and military establish .lliti‘t4retf._h_e Pachalie. pri eci ,, ie i s7ie g , this place to the position laid dow_n en a .p s o a_ tee t i al e ies es the Convention of the 15th of July, th l e i P o l ns ! .er th tt the ;) I f the Power s who signed that Treaty wou . Pr on ,„ J ad exceeded the limits of their mission w e r e c ihey id u t d o Nshij i " t fe an opinion on the amount of tribute to be pa id, ans terilal__;ey consider as a financial measure relative to th e er s4qtotnistration of the Ottoman empire, which t e u d _ 14 e 1 11: ( s . the Y already expressed in their note of the 13th of ~N i er .0 tot regard as coming within their provin ce.. /nat o , % vet', not Posses s ing the necessary statistical infoor sisi te to serv e as a base for a correct judgment on thee fi . na on h , l) : netl„ ee ' of Egypt, they could not express any p i - "`Rht ,I "mount of annual revenue which the Sublime ° P orte Rix Ile raw from this province. Ilis . e'er_ theless, in order to satisfy, as far as they lime, I,9)ressed by Chekib Effendi, in the name of the Sub can, the %cit.. e n e, they think they ought to suggest that ms e te v a e d nu o e f tf ~me itsbute at a proportional part of the gross r even ue to tese,ls,,:Tt, would be snore to the interest of the Porte de lllifthe": the a.rnount by a fixed sum, which would h insure might sum I . eoa r i e : the receipt of a certain income.. " ett se receipt to circumstances, for whriehr u e c ason e, it is m io i n gh a t t testai:r t hat the fixed stun. be declared subject to r " e Poch s . : Th, ei " MILITARY PROMOTIO:.NS. l' t, - ; a ttiel s s . 4 _° 4 rate Act annexed to the Treat'; of July contains -.444, i lia-"atng the land and sea fi trees . ' sr alitti l rite ha of Egypt shall b . e always considered as the s,i,...Patt of the forces , of the empire, and maintained for e 6 .7 of the State,' i'l e ; 4 y 7, c1 , 41 g tII this principle the military forces employed * ),'"rt‘C ite 'rig those of his Highness Soverei g n , a loe e /1 -c:rn it° P r omotion in virtue of the g will e, to See i al loy and the fleet belong. L PAlisei ng out from this principle, which is to he generally . kOe 4 t . t "; tlhe endersigted can only attach a secondary import jr In t o difficulty which has arisen relative to the questi on l t er,at r,3' Promotions in Egypt. It is for the Sultan to (C 7 h !R , t{ri, "It authority he pleases to the Govemors of . Egypt, r ' w ers t "' himself the t o or restrain those vie _ a (4 , 0r ,. power e xtend . ' 'nay d wng as expenence and the necessities of the set.- If 'ernOnStrate the propriety of so doing. Per ' l4 the If , e 0 present note, the undersigned have thought pro- Ne t . natie therr observation s to the tl tree above-mentioned th "is b , - au t i., eeause that they have, by their collective note; of ' ti t Ala tif January, 13th illareh, anti by the Protoco l . of the °tite r j'h, already , made knows, their opinion respecting the eufrit,;'httorti contained in the eetJarate act annexed to the 4, 1 ,_ , 10n of the 15th of July , 1844). - Tested, in the views ad opinions which they man_i te tito the said acts th 1 • it de e m it expedient to refer 63 / 'llfi . it e!, me'st ceou;dersir submission formally made 211 kra o , ' ret ail as a bsolute, ter an e d consequently regard the Ae,o9Y.Ptian question as terminated. twitnintahtrtdi: engplvaettea u ndersigned cannot Admit the supposi testi e Sul tan h's d o ought to be grateful for the pardon erred bY his It wh.t. p w the bound not kee ~ lomeesisgueed himselfto grant him . and the . favours n . 1 h are t he ist e diti and his family, should sof the obedience and submission " Th e p i . °T , ens of that pardon and th use favours. caii n ,.. 1, ,elllPotentiaies of the Allied Com ts, in communi . - invit4ine.e observateions to his Excellency Chokib Effendi, the‘ itt t ° be plea s d, - ebservati r, b pi - to Make them known to• his Cou i rt : A . T a ',.' te, oft he coi°e-e-etsf'lg. intended to serve as tire COMP Le 4 l %t 0 their collective note dated the 13th of " they seize t E l tiVt,t l At t of renew in g, " PALME"RSTON. SIE B 3III A NN." . - . . "13ULOVv. " Lond """. on, 31„,„ io 1 ~ ....,..,,1._841. . IN'. SPAIN - . (FFINANCIAL DECREES. ro bre" ta the Madrid Gazette of June 1. ) x or 1 THE REGEN T OF SPAIN ADDRESSED TO THE R av , i AIINISTER OF FINANCE. eerru._”% ta i into consideration the utility of forming a to me 0 ,,.._ .3310: charged with the examining and proposingual and ateeneieasu.res as shall be judged suitable to dart7s !cotto n of the plan of taxation to be p a re u se e n ff t e e e d to the .. seii,„„, ' ~.wlth the probable amount of the expenses for the en the ° • / " .1., 18n my quality of Regent of the realm during en,k7 l44 :i„,_ ty of her Majesty Queen Donna Isabella the Seconcl_,_ Iti!, Pably to the advice of the Council ef Ministers, 1 ;,o,_A_4lecteed as follows ie r ' u -* I.' There shall be formed commission composed of tOms of distinction, of exprience a and zeal, which shall be u7.Z.se_tito examine, in the shortest possible space of time, and 4 4 , 7 r ~...ie those measures most adapted to the plan 0 0 1 412 i 4 "t° .be brought before the Cortes with the budget I r ~,..,A..: ~ iiie.t.. 4 (l- 1 1-• Are appointed members of said commission, Don General of 4 1 4. "arro, Deputy, President ; the Direc!or ithoxik-....,anci of the Sirilinz Funds, the Cashier-General of u o .. f oN , i ,A kttivid eru l s • b„ 'pascal Madoz, Assessor to u _ t o, donee of thc ' Pablic Treasury; Don Andre A b 1 14 the Upper Court' of Accounts ; Don Pablo hies o , rise Maria Oreuse ; and Don Eusebio Rodolfo, v, C o. w il l ' l lifil tiliFftun_Llekortment and . the Ministry of Finance, h a.,..! Arty --,, tictoe of Secretary. 4 oeth- a! .The commission to assemble in th th e e h d a a ll ys set an ap d a a rt t Ai m .i;t7 Meeting of the Funds Department, on for the coinplet ion ,164-ther2tbefixed.upon by the resident, ‘ 3 iill- - 4 -••••imities, conformably to Art. 72 of the t e h m e is a ti u t t u h ti o o r n. Ries tOers;ll:4L4,-. All the Mioisters, the corps, . nnfi C ommissi on i n its researches, the undertak t g 6, I"' it.tnay require, for the interests of _ . and l d furnish all the 1 ir(4 w hich. it ' 11 . h ed. You will consider as ei ck tud 1 • ' ls sPec-la executionc arg t the resent decree. ta ol . - let enforce the..e. P 14 4" 4 ' 4 ' - • " The Duke de la VITORIA. 4 7 14 1 / 1 1..-' ' ISlDit4,p_ .r,' -.we, May 28, 1841. tii 4l4 ; 3-100 Pedro Sutray.Rull, Minister of Finance._" ......u.. ittde q e ,1, ) ! 41 decree of the 28th, upon the Report of the mit 1 -4 4 IVY & -...attlumes orders the forniaticn of 'a Commission similar 'alest.. - 1-14/e,. for the speedy examination of the measures teieritidePted to determine the private budget of each depart : ( *tre h E :i i t i ti4 he e t a t t o to estimate the general expend! b au e d annually presented to the Corte.. liitik it 4 ,‘ -' , 'N jllg- tc..be members of said Commission :—Don dein. tc'' 'ernanuez Gamboa, Deputy for Navarre, Pre.si bob I D '`'en Cesar Maria Saenz ; Don Miguel Alejo Burnt'. -114111-"arean be Temprodo, Deputy Don Mateo de Aillon ? ern the Upper Court a Accounts ; Don Antonio -.4:iet: Intendant of the Army ; Don Jose Maria Morente, 4 lift ° rt} ! B DePartment of the Interior; Don Francisco de l o a f :., me d.Chief of the Marine Department of Commerce and t,;,'°'veenruent of the Colonies ; Don Alexandro de Contillo, 6,11:1 of the Department of Foreign Affairs ; Don Joaquinus t,efts del a Penat, Chief of the Department of the War it., ~„17 ;and Don Joaquin Mario Perez, Chief of the Department 6„Z..r.liudget at the Ministry of Fnance, to be Secretary. All ,t,';'"Y to he giventoexpedite their_ business. , iii,, N t./fT ~,,, TURKISH FRONTIERS. . aljoo 'Cto w ' 22--The northern provinces of Turkey seem to be tute.„ testored to a state of tranquillity. News have been re , a r e cl,y at Widdin from Constantinople that Commissioners 1 4 , _ 1 ° 'be appointed; but the Sultan is to examine into the ..I,..ri'LlMees of the rayahs of Bulgaria , the conduct of the 14r."hl°cal t b • • befo re e ' the breaking out of 4 ,t le _ . . .au ornies, and a f t e r . sum,l734oxbanees, and the canses of the latter . It is said that 444;1, it Paellas of-Nissa and Widdin are deeply implicated, aril4.acit:4l2 feared that the family off Christian Prince has disre li tth e i n __ ike ettprerne authority of the Porte immediately after 10...reaking out of the Bulgarian: revolt. The Porte was on •i Point sending, Tewfik Bey, the Sultan's Secretary, to 1414000,;,.'7".4.4re1imited, full powers to quell the disturbances. 4, 1 ---iing tutervened lc:prevent the departure of the Bey ; itt0 . ,.„.,,t reporter of Hussein,. the Pasha of Widdin, which was I ' 3 o4'a /4.411 Y drawn up, made so favourable an impression on `4R.StieV -a n , !hat it gave him full power and directions to take Zletsttres as he judged the most advisable to restore order. qui;m 4 „ , pey is . to "be - President of the Committee: of In stiti.,yraf the i nvestigation is well condtteted, unexpected re. Probabli b. •btained. CHINA. REPORT OF THE GOVERNOR OF CANTON TO THE EMPE ROR ON THE CAPTURE. OF THE FORTS OF CHUSAN AND TYKOHTOW. Keshen, Governor of Canton, on the 16th day of the 12th moon (January Bth), made the following general report " I (your slave) Keshen, report respecting the English foreigner, who, not waiting for a reply, attacked the bat teries ; this respectful statement is hurried on at the rate of 500 le per day ; looking up, I beg for the im perial glance. " I to-day (January Bth), prepared a document to be sent in reply to the English foreigner, and a flag of inti mation was hoisted at the forts, and so forth. " I now respectfully report, in a duly prepared ad dress, that immediately after (having sent the said docu ment) I received a flying report from Admiral Kwan, that early on the morning of the 15th (Jan. 7th) all the English ships weighed their anchors, and arranged themselves to attack the forts of Shakok and Takok ; the firing of the guns was without intermission ; the attack was made on all sides, from about nine till three. It is calculated that each of the English ships had more than ten guns. Our soldiers put forth their strength, and opposed the attack, until three o'clock, and they observed at a distance the foreigners dropping into the sea. At that time the tide ebbed, and the foreign ships ceased their fire—being at anchor in the mid-chan nel, between Shakok and Takok ; and each party stood in defiance of each other ; and it was generally expected that next morning:, when the flood tide made, the battle would be renewed. There were also four stearn=vessels, which attack our troops also immediately opposed, and the victory was undecided, and the steamers speedily re turned to the offing, &c. " After my arrival in Canton, I repeatedly corres ponded with the English foreigners, and my papers were all of a conciliatory and admonitory description ; and as in the list of conditions which he requested, although I could not comply with all his insatiable desires, still the re were some which might be granted. But the said foreigner, on the 14th day (the 6th of January) sent in a paper, and did not wait for my reply, but forth w ith, early on the 15th day, attacked the forts. To such au extreme pitch had his domineering pride and perverse violence arrived !It is said—or recommended — that we should confine ourselves within our barriers, which will be sufficient to cause the English to exhaust themselves ; and then if they are allowed to trade they will fall into our manners and customs ; whether there are sufficient proofs of this or not, it will be difficult to escape the profound intelligence of your Imperial Ma jesty. " Now how could the said foreigners dare to be the first to attack (the forts) and create disturbances, and of themselves originate the causes of quarrel and war ; w Bich will lead to their not being able to open their mouths ? (to beg for a settlement of affairs.) Why dig Ihe not wait for an answer ? From this unrea soaable conduct I should not again be disposed to beetow anything on him, or grant any of his requests. • • I have ascertained that Shakok is a solitary island in the outer water, and t::te soldiers there have before been engaged with the English. Two hundred soldiers had almady been taken from the Fooyuen's division, and ordered to assemble at the important passes in Tunghwan (east of the Bogue), and two hundred men of the Tetuh's (Command,er-in-Chief) division were ordered to guard and keep the passes. The batteries on Takok are close to the south botch; and fearing that the said foreigner would go round behind the hill, and then hasten to enter in at the front of the batteries on Takok, I had sent a flying despatch. to the Admiral Kwan to ex amine clearly, and increase the number of troops on that spot, and there to remain quiet in the fort, and to order the men to be immediately employed in the manu facture of gunpowder and balls, sufficient for the ex penditure of several months ; they would then be able to hold the forts. The Bocca Tigris is the Admiral's station. To the guard and defence of Chaouchow chin, I had already sent La Tsuhtsze with troops. For the defence of Wooyungkow—which is 16 le from the provincial city, I had selected a naval officer to remain there quiet within the camp, and to fill vessels with stones and sink them, and to construct wooden rafts to prevent the running away (of the English). " On the 4th day of the 12th moon (Dec. 27th) I sent a flying despatch announcing to Keshow the Adjutant- Geperal of the Governor's troops, the Tootsze—or mayor —Teihtszeleang of the Yuntsing camp to take the ge neral management of and complete this business. " But some of the inhabitants of the provincial city dwell close to the city walls, and it is difficult, in conse quence, to open fire ; and it being surrounded on all sides by the river, there is no place to form a camp. " There have been forts of old in the centre of the river (the Dutch and French follies ;) their garrisons have been increased ; there is also no place or ground for camps where th rapids are in the river ; each quarter is well guarded. " I have before daily made secret examinations into the dispositions and intentions of the foreigners, and I am apprehensive they will go to different outlets or ports, I therefore immediately sent despatches to Woo Wan yung, the Governor of Fokien and Chekeang, and to Ele poo, the imperial envoy to Chekeeny, that they might know the facts accordingly, and charging him to forward despatches immediately to the province of Keangsoo, to keep strict examinations and guard. • But the road is long, the distance great, and the post-horses have not strength for the journey, and I do not know whether they have reached their destination or not ; neither do I know if I should again send despatches to the maritime ports of each province or not. In the late battle some of our soldiers were wounded and some not ; after the number of the wounded have been ascer tained a flying report shall be forwarded. Henceforth the state of affairs will be duly reported. As to what relates to the said foreigner not waiting for a reply, and first proceeding to attack the forts, it is proper that I should forward the report of it at the rate of 500 le a day. Prostrate I beg for the Imperial glance.—A re spectful report." " TFIE EMPEROR'S REPLIES. " Taoukwang, 21st year, first moon, sth day (January 27). The imperial edict was received. " Keshen has sent in a report of the English foreigners having attacked the batteries. " After these rebellious foreigners arrived in the pro vince of Canton, the disorder and audacity of their con duct daily increased. I have many times sent down my imperial will in a severe edict to all the provinces to keep a secret and cautious watch at guard, and to consult and form mutual plans for extermination ; as to the great ministers, civil and military, in what manner have they managed to arrange matters well ? " To-day a report haS arrived post haste from Keshen, stating that the fort Shakok has been taken and plun deredby the rebellious foreigners ; and also that the fort of Takok has been attacked and officers and men killed ; and the Imperial fleet has been plundered. It is evident that the said Acting Governor, in what was proper in all the affairs of guarding (against attack), has been wholly unprepared in every instance. I order that Keshen be delivered over to the .proper board for severe punish ment ; still he is to be the leader of all the officers and troops when they arrive in Canton ; and let him excite them to exert strength in opposing and exterminating, and put an end quickly to these affairs. " You Kwan Teenpei, are the admiral, you have the control over all the naval officers ; hitherto your leader ship has been deficient in means and plans ; in super intending affairs you have been timid and irresolute, and lost your firmness and self-possession. I order that your button be taken from you, and bear your faults in re membrance, and re-establish your reputation by glorious deeds. "As to the list of officers and soldiers killed, I order the said Governor to be most strict in his examination, and send in a prepared report. " Respect this." Another imperial edict has been received. " Keshen, by it post-haste despatch, has reported that the rebellious foreigners have attacked the forts. Be fore, because the rebellious foreigners daily became more unruly and disobedient, I have repeatedly sent down my imperial will that adequate preparations should be made for the secure arrangement of affairs, and that mutual plans should be devised to exterminate them. " My first conjecture was, that they had since a long time a great desire to get Canton—their mouths have watered after Canton for many a long day. " The said great Minister has been invested with an important trust, and he already knows that the disposi tions of the said foreigners are proud and overbearing ; and must have also observed that the defences of the said provinces have long been crumbling to ruins. It was his duty to be prepared for defence, and it might be hoped that if preparations had been made no calamity would have accrued ; but now he reports, saying that the re bellious foreigners have usurped and plundered the fort of Shakok, and also attacked Takok. " Since the rebellious dispositions of the foreigners have become thus manifest, there is nothing left but to entirely exterminate them, and thus proclaim the majesty of the Imperial dynasty, for what principles of reason can now be proclaimed to them? Flying orders have already been sent to the provinces of Homan, Szechuen, and Kweichow, to send with speed their Most skilful soldiers to Canton; also flying despatches to Keangse to forward the 2,000 troops already stationed at Kanchow foo to proceed immediately to assist. " The officers and troops of the province of Canton are all to remain under the orders of the said Governor. The present circumstances are important and urgent ; I order that guards be placed at the important passes to defend and keep them ; let there be no want of caution and no remissness. It may be computed that in the second moon of the year all the troops may in succession arrive at Canton. I order all the commanding officers to exhort their troops and excite them to exterminate and exclude (the English), and thus scheme to repair defeat by victory. "As to the forts of Canton, Tang before reported that he had laid down chains to impede the foreign ships; now whether the destroyed forts of Takok and Shakok were in those places (i. e. within the chains), let lieshen examine and make a report. These orders are to travel at the rate of 600 le a day ; I order that they be made known. Respect this." A third Imperial edict has been received :—"' Our dynasty has been soothing and indulgent to outside foreigners, and favour and justice were shown to all. If the said foreigners could, indeed, have been respectful and obedient, I most certainly should have treated them with increased kindness, and then all might have hoped for joy and tranquillity. Be fore, because the flowing poison of the occidental coun ' tries' opium daily increased, I issued special orders that endeavours should be made to wean the people of the stupid habit ; but the English, depending on their bois terous strength, would not submit to give the voluntary bond. I, in consequence, ordered their trade to be en tirely cut off ; but even now they are unrepentant, and their profligacy daily increases like the the bird (a bird of prey). " Suddenly in the sixth moon of the last year they cane with ten sail of ships, and forthwith a.ttac494 hae, and usurped possession of the city ; and th en in dulgiKl themselves in cruizing in the offing of the prQ- `'ti ~ r~, - :~ •tea : ~. c...w.+r.. t~ . .. . _. ... ~ THE SUN, LONDON, THURSDAY, JUG P 105_180, vines Pokien, Chekeang, Keangsoo, Shantung, Chible, and Fungteen. and caused numerous commotions. Since the domineering pride of those rebellious foreigners has arrived at this pitch, it will not, be difficult to arrange our battalia, and exterminate and drive out the whole number. But on account of considering that the said foreigners presented an address, in which they stated their grievances, I could not but cause them to be inves tigated, in order to manifest the great principles of jus tice ; and I especially ordered the to heo sze (Cabinet Minister) Keshen, to proceed with haste to Canton, to examine into the facts, and manage the business. The said foreigners are but - slightly endowed either, with heavenly principles - or goodness of heart. The whole number of them ought to have returned to Canton, and there have awaited the settlement ; but one half weighed their anchors and went southwards, and one-half still remains in Tinghae. This is a clear proof of their crafty and cunning schemes, which are as innumerable as hairs. I have now heard that, for several months past, they have de bauched men's wives and daughters, made captives, car ried away property, and built forts; opened watercourses, and set up a counterfeit public officer, who issues pro clamations ordering the people td pay the duties. What crimes have the people committed, that they should suffer. these painful distresses? Speech and thought have . come to this, in sleeping or eating I find no quiet. " After Keshen arrived in Canton, he well understood to open up and induce to the paths of rectitude, but the insatiable desires (of the English) could not be satisfied; already are their thoughts dwelling upon extorting the price of opium (the 20,283 chests surrendered); further, they are again requesting that I should grant them a landing-place (territory). I, the Emperor, early con sidered them to be unsettled and inconstant; certainly it is not by good faith or justice that they are now to be admonished. " With a special intention last year I selected the most skilful soldiers of the provinces of Szechuen, Hooan, and Keangse; to proceed to Canton ; a further selection of the most skilful soldiers from the provinces of Hoopin, Hoonau, and Ginwuy, were ordered to proceed to Che keang, to be prepared for attack and extermination. Now Keshen has reported by a post-haste despatch that the said foreigners, on the 7th of January, having engaged the assistance of traitorious natives on board their ships, went direct to the Bocca Tigris and attacked the forts with their guns, and killed my officers and soldiers, and they also laid Takok fort in ruins, and they took forci ble possession of Shakok. Such is their rebellion against Heaven and opposition to reason, they are like dogs and sheep in their dispositions ; it is difficult for heaven and earth longer to bear with the English, and both gods and men are indignant (at their conduct). It is only left to completely exterminate and wash ourselves clean of them, cutting off and expelling them all ; and then will it be manifest that they are killed by the decree of Heaven, and how important are the lives of the people. "At present, as to the troops who have been selected from the different provinces, it is conjectured that they have already arrived at their destination (in Chekeang), I order Elepoo to proceed immediately with troops and receive back the city of Tinghae, and resuscitate the people from their lifeless state. Moreover, I order Ke shen to exhort and stimulate the soldiers, to advance, with valorous daring, and be the foremost in battle, for it is absolutely necessary that the rebellious foreigners must give up their heads, which, and the prisoners, are to be sent to Pekin in cages, to undergo the last penalty of the law. For the seizure of the evil race of foreign ers and the rebellious native traitors, it is proper to establish laws ; and for putting them all to death with out exception. " As to the ports and offings of all the maritime pro vinces I have repeatedly sent down my imperial will to keep a secret and strict guard. I order all the General Governors, and Lieutenant-Governors, to increase their efforts in cruising and examining. If they (the English) come, forthwith attack them. Moreover, let perspicuous orders be issued to the officers and people, to be mindful of their enemies' anger and hatred, and be all equal in a determined will. Immediately report highly meritorious deeds, that I may confer rewards ; of this I have the greatest hopes. Let this edict be circulated for general information." CURIOUS TRIAL. (From Galignani's Messenger.), A trial of much interest, on account of the circumstan tial character of the evidence, and particularly the con flicting opinions of the medical men who were called as witnesses, took place, a few days ago, before the Court of Assizes of the Loiret. It appears that more than a year since M. Souesme, a wealthy landowner in the en virons of Montargis, whilst superintending two workmen who were trimming his trees on the bank of a ditch, sud denly quitted the spot at which one of them, named Corbasson, was at the moment making up the several branches into faggots, exclaiming that this workman, whilst M. Souesme was stooping down, had attempted to destroy him by striking several blows with the chopper which he had i n his hand. M. Souesme had received some severe wounds, and was bleeding profusely. Se veral persons came up on seeing the • condition of M. Souesme, and hearing his exclamations, and found Cor basson in the ditch, with several wounds on his throat and head, and almost dead. He was unable to speak, and in two hours he died. The account given by M. Souesme was corroborated by a man named Cherry, who was acting as foreman over the wood-trimmers, and it was inferred that Corbasson. who had surrendered a lease of six or seven acres of land to M. Souesme on lower terms for himself than he had been subsequently offered, had, in a fit of disappointment and anger, attempted to destroy the life of M. Souesme, and then committed sui cide. Several months had elapsed, when an individual named Deflou, got up an accusation of murder against M. Souesme, and excited the widow and daughter of Cor basson to prosecute. Three medical men, who had ex amined the body of Corbasson immediately after his death, had declared that the wounds were inflicted by his own hand ; but another medical man, named Doquin, had declared subsequently to Deflou that they could only have been inflicted by M. Souesme. On the trial of this gentleman it was shown, however, that he was a man of violent passions, and a woman named Pensuet swore that she had witnessed the affair between Souesme and Cor basson, and that words having arisen, Souesme had struck Corbasson several blows with his cane • that Corbasson having struck M. Souesme a blow on the back with the flat part of his chopper, the latter had drawn a dirk from his cane and stabbed Corbasson in the throat. It was attempted to show that M. Souesme had inflicted upon himself the wounds in his head, in order to conceal the real nature of the affair, and bear out his account of it ; and that the witnesses for the defence were suborned by him, and unworthy of belief. For the defence, however, it was clearly demonstrated that the witness Pensuet had deposed falsely, for the cane which 11.• Souesme carried on the day of the event, and which she identified, was shown to have no dirk. It was then proved that Cor- - basson was subject to insanity, and that he had on a former occasion made an attempt upon his own life. Previously to the trial the law-officers of the Crown had called upon three medical men, MM. Orfila, Duvergie, and Roger de l'Orme, to deliver their opinion as to the origin of the wounds received by Souesme and Corbas son, and for this purpose the vertebrae of the deceased, the chopping knife, and a dagger, and cane-dirk, found at the residence of M. Souesme, were sent to them. At the trial M. Orfila declared in his own name, and in those of his colleagues, their opinion that Corbasson had been murdered, and that the wounds of Souesme were inflicted by himself. On the other hand, the medical men who had been called in immediately after the occur rence of the event persisted in the opinion which they had previously expressed, and three others, Doctors Gartner, Lavielle, and Boyer, positively contradicted the statement of M. Orfila, Dr. Gamier adding, that he had attended M. Souesme for his wounds, and that they were very severe ; one of them, he said, had been fistulous for several months. The Jury pronounced a verdict of ac quittal, but the Court awarded to the family of Corbas son 5,000 f. damages, to be paid by M. Souesme. On Saturday morning, about half-past six o'clock, a waterman named Thomas Tagg, while in his boat on the river opposite Kingston bridge, discovered the body of a young female very handsomely dressed floating in the water. tie immediately conveyed the body to the Fox and Hounds public-house, where it was examined. The deceased was dressed in black silk, with other articles to correspond, and in her pocket were nine shillings and fourpence in a purse, and round her neck was a piece of ribbon to which was attached a gen tleman's gold guard-ring. The deceased's veil and shawl were found at a distance of about twenty yards from the spot where the body was found. On Saturday evening Mr. Carter, the coroner, held an inquest upon the body, when it appeared that the name of the deceased was Louisa Wade, and that she was lady's-maid in the fa mily of a gentleman residing in Richmond Terrace. No satisfactory evidence could be obtained as to how the deceased came into the water. She had left her friends about eight o'clock on the previous evening, saying that she would shortly return, and at that time nothing par ticular was remarked in her appearance, and she seemed in very good spirits. Upon an examination of the bank of the river, near the spot where the body was found, there were marks as though some one had been strug gling to get out of the water, and it is therefore conjec tured that the deceased had accidentally fallen into the river. The Jury having minutely inquired, so far as they were able, into the circumstances, returned a ver dict of " Found drowned," thus leaving the matter open to further inquiry, should additional evidence be brought forward. THE PRESIDENT.—A correspondent of a morning paper says .—" The idea, under any circumstances, of the President having drifted into the lat. of 29 30, and the long. of 40, where the steamer reported by the Portuguese captain was seen, appears to me absurd, and I have had con siderable experience in nautical affairs. had she so driven, there cannot be a doubt she would have fallen in with, and spoken many vessels who would, long ere this, have arrived, and have reported her situation. I doubt very much whether the vessel seen by the Portuguese ship was a steam-boa', as all fo reign seamen are often very inaccurate in their modes of obser vation, and probably the white funnel may have been a large wind-sail hoisted for some particular object. Had it been the President she would most certainly have made a signal of dis tress, unless she had previously communicated with some other vessel, which must have arrived before this, as the Vernon, without using her steam power, has come from a distance 30 degrees further southward since the date re ported by the Portuguese captain. It appears to me cruel towards those so warmly interested in the fate of this vessel, to keep alive hopes for which there can be no foundation. Three months have now nearly elapsed since her sailing from New York, and, had she been above water, some account may be be T rni g lyy ai e s o f lost; heaesßilyritaiesh counted for ; she left New York, according to report, 'very deep,' and encountered two days after (before sufficient coals must have reached us long ago. fo7 H .n. ::s y s e w w Q e iun r e( e le nc,onsu experiencedm which e (l ei t i : 001 1 lu i g iti h itl t ta e : n e 7 h at ei ite ) ' s one arn c o gale, a t l e h , e h w e a a v s ; :: : ai forty she had, however, this advantage over the President —she was light, - having consumed all her coals. It requires very little acquaintance with the laws of gravity to comprehend why a vessel two hundrM and sixty feet in length, with fgt. lileavp, co l k b e very secure, scudding or lying.to in 'a heavy gale of wind. The President, in all probability, wa s either pooped while scudding, or overwhelmed while lyi ng _ to, from not haviog sufficient bearings to support her. ~.. . of the PUBLIC SOURNALS: FROM THE DAILY PAPERS OF YESTERDAY. GhOBA:-L-The .TournfddisDciats;eqnitcs Sir Robert Pc-al's vague and cheap civilities to our French allies—by discovering that the Right Honourable Baronet should be Minister. The arguments which the Journal des Debuts brings to back this discovery are a mere repeti tion of those which the Right Hon. Baronet himself hs s already Put, in every possible form of elaborate candour. We attachsome importance to showing that this whole fabric of pretension is baseless ; that the leader- of the present OppoSition has no title whatever to vaunt it as an Opp9siticin peculiarly free from factious proceedings, and .entitled to govern in its own name, because it has for a long period been governing, in reality, in the name of the party now in r ower. All this disinterestedness—all this exemption from faction—we deny utterly. We deny that the,Opposition has scrupled any possible means of or that' Sir Robert Peel has shown the slight* forbearance to Government, on any occasion on which they could be damaged with safety and platvibility. We grant that Sir Robert Peel has often preferred his character to his party ; which is not surprising, as his character only prevents them from throwing him over 'board. Of course a Tory Opposition has not voted against Ministers for Ballot, or Extension of Suffrage, or aboli tion of Church-rates, or Repeal of the New Poor-law. The Journal des Debats makes a merit to Sir Robert Peel of supporting this latter law, " in spite of the very violent murmurs of his own party." Poor innocent ! The De bats takes Mr. Oastler and Mr. Walter for organs of the Tory party. It is altogether ignorant that the " great national party" has one language for Parliament, and another for the hustings and pothouse ; and that the " murmurs," not loud, perhaps, but deep, of Sir R. Peel's " own party" would have reached him, if he had taken up their out-of-dcors tone on the Poor-law. It is his cue, as their leader, to defend that law, which the party are resolute to maintain—it is theirs to disclaim his senti ments through their organs, and talk against them to the populace. We do not mean to deny Sir R. Peel credit for his sincerity ; but theugh, in this instance, it stands in contrast with the duplicity of others of his party, the Debats is mistaken in supposing that it thwarts their feelings or interests. The Tories, as a party in the coun try, play a double game on the Poor-law. Sir R. Peel defends that law, as an organ of their intentions in Par liament. COURIER.—The Chronicle affects much exultation first about some correction of a trifling inaccuracy of Lord Stanley's in a matter of date when _inflicting a merited castigation on Mr. Handley, the defence of whose consistency, by the bye, it chivalrously . undertakes.. -- Bat whilst recording certain trivial votes of his., against that administration of Lord Liverpool of which he was generally the obsequious servitor, the journalist cau tiously omits explanation or illustration of Mr. Hand ley's more memorable ,opposition to the great mea sures of Catholic Emancipation and the Reform Bill ; measures which really involved such vital principles as, it may be taken for granted, should. be the test of honesty and reputation for the whole life of a public man. As the first of the press to draw attention to his political and party delinquencies, we may more be comingly take this occasion to express our respect for the private, and, with marked exceptions, the public character also of Mr. Handley ; but we must also warn him that, as one of the Members for Lincolnshire, he is destined to take his leave of public life. From an intimate personal acquaintance among several warm friends and supporters in his part of that county—if we may be al lowed to speak in person in the matter—zealous Whigs, too, like himself, we can venture to assure him that he sits for the parts of Kesteven and Holland for the last time, for even by his own friends he is abandoned. STANDARD.—Some conversation on the Corn-laws occurred in the House of Lords last night ; it presented little novelty, but that little was characteristic of the ignorance which prevails upon the subject, even in quarters where one would least expect to find it. Lord Cloncurry mentioned, in proof of the ill effect of the Corn-laws, that high prices in Ireland were generally accompanied by a low rate of wages. Now, Lord Cloncurry ought to know something of Ireland, and he must be, therefore, aware that the Corn-laws have, and can have, none but a beneficial influence upon that country. Ireland imports no corn, and exports little or no manufactured goods beyond the precincts of the em pire : so that the pretence of reasoning which has been set up against the Corn-laws as to their effect. upon Great Britain cannot apply to her. The only way in which the Corn-laws can possibly affect Ireland is by giving a preference to Irish corn in the British market ; we challenge Lord Cloncurry to contradict this proposition. The phenomenon upon which the Noble Lord relies, as far as such a phenomenon exists, may be easily explained. In Ireland the price of corn can rise only in consequence of a deficient harvest ; but in Ire land the majority of farmers are mere labourers also, and the produce of each man's farm, in average years, barely suffices to support his family and pay his rent. This being nearly universally the case, it happens of necessity, that in -unfavourable years the Irish labourer-farmer must look to 'some ex traordinary resource to provide his rent and feed) his wife and children, and his only resource is labour ; thus the labour market is over supplied, and wages of course fall. If Lord Cloncurry's argument prove anything, it is that the protection of agriculture is insufficient, not that it can be dispensed with'; for were our ports thrown open to foreign corn, some of it raised as near to the great markets for grain as Ireland, the Irish farmer would have no price for his corn—all must become mere labourers or perish, and wages would decline to something below what we can venture to name, and all this, ns we shall to-morrow show, to reduce the four pound loaf by something less than one farthing in price. LAW INTELLIGENCE. COURT OF QUEEN'S BENCH, 41111te 9, THE CASE OF THE DEAN OP YOlik._ The arguments in the case of the Dean of York were resumed this morning, Sir Wm. Follett appearing in support of the rule, which had been obtained for the prohibition. The Learned Counsel was followed by Mr. Cresswell and Dr. Adams on the same side, and the case had not terminated when the Court rose. STATE OF TRADE. (From the Manchester Guardian.) There was a rather better demand yesterday, both for goods and yarn, and rather more business was done, than for two or three previous market days ; but there was not the slightest improvement in prices. Indeed, some descriptions of goods were sold at lower prices than were ever before known. ROCHDALE FLANNEL MARKET, JUNE 7.—There scarcely can be said to have been a market to-day ; but few buyers have attended, and not many pieces have been sold at any price. The wool market has been as flat as the pieee market. HUDDERSFIELD MARKET, JUNE B.—There has been little or no difference in the state of this market for several weeks past ; nor is there any prospect of improvement now. If any thirg, this was a duller market than any of late; but the busi ness done is chiefly at an unsatisfactory rate, a wearing away of the resources and energies of the people to no advantage. Prices are nominal. Business in the warehouses, generally, is flat. A few American houses are tolerably busy, with a prospect of continuing so. LLOYD'S SHIPPING—(THIS DAY.) Lorinow, Juxa 10,—Wind this day at noon, light breeze from the N. to N.E., fine clear weather. DEAL, JUNE 9.—Wind N., fresh.—Arrived from the River and sailed, the Alligator, for Singapore ; • Mary and Jane, Swan River; Foam, Hong Kong; John M'Lellan, Bombay; Horatio transport, St. Helena; Ellen Gillman, Newfoundland; Minerva, Boston; Fame, Madeira. Remains, the Florentia, for Sydney, in consequence of the crew refusing to do their duty. SHEERNESS, JUNE 9. —The George Clark, Clark, from Dant zic to London, got on the Maplin Sand yesterday morning, but was got off after discharging her deck load. FALMOUTH, JUKE B.—Wind N.N.E. to N.E., fresh breezes.—Sailed her Majesty's ship Petrel, with 'supplies for the homeward-bound. LivEaroot., JUNE 9.—Wind N.E. light breezes..-Ar rived the Forth, from Monte Video. Sailed the Sir Robert Peel, for Ca cotta ; Ann, Maranham ; Washing ton, Vir ginia ; Lady Ali:ton, St. John's, New Brunswick ; Broon, Grey, Quebec. Arrivedoff, the John Scott, from Monte Video; Britannia, Boston, 16th ult., and Halifax, 18th, put back same day, having been aground, and sailed again on the 29th. COWES, JUNE B.—Arrived the Innocence, Hingstram, from Bahia. GUERNSEY, JUNE 7.—Arrived the Alarm, Stewart, from Buenos Ayres, rather leaky, BRisTor, JUNE 9,—Sailed the Freedom, for Africa; Pearl, Malaga; Marina, Constantinople. CORK, JUNE 7.—Arrived off, the Gulielmo, Amy, from Monte Video. YARMOUTH. —Arrived off, the Thomas and Martha, with loss of both anchors and chains, arrived in the Roads; Thomas and Margaret, of Sunderland, with loss of anchor and chains. SHIELDS, JUNE 7.—The Elizabeth (steamer), in towing a vessel out to sea, clove on the Herd Sand, and has become a wreck. PENZANCE, MAY 7.—A boat nearly new, pith a black top streak, and marked Fanny of Greenock, C. T. Stoyle, was picked up, the 20th ult. HAwrtvroot, MAY 6.—The Tynemouth Castle, from Sunderland to St. Petersburgh, has been towed in here with loss of topmast. The Mary and Jane Kinnerly, of Wisbeach, is being towed in dismasted. OsTENn, MAY B.—A bark of about 300 or 400 tons aban doned, with Connecine von Lambert on her stern, was passed on the sth instant, south of the Doggerbank, by the Hazard, fishing smack, arrived here. TREBIZOND, MAY 12.—The Austrian steamer, Stamboul, Anthione, ran on shore on the Ist inst. near Sinope, and filled. All her cargo is damaged, crew saved. HUMOROUS T R ANSLATION OF A MOTTO.-- The motto of Admiral Sir George Cockburn is " Ita," which reminds us of an anecdote suitable for the next edition of Joe Miller. The latest scene of the gallant Admiral's exploits was the coast of America, in 1813; and, on a naval officer, more intimately acquainted with the services of Sir George Cockburn than with Latin, being asked what "Ita" meant, re plied, " Don't you know? It means I took •America.' " FATAL ACCIDENT WHILST BATHING IN THE LEA.—An inquest was held yesterday morning before Mr. Baker, at the Coventry Cross, Bromley, on the body of Robert Bengough, aged 17, a fancy toymaker. Thomas Bengough said that on Sunday morning last he was passing the end of the river Lea, near that place, when he saw his son, the deceased, about to bathe. Witness advised him not to do so, as the weather was then rather cold and the wind high ; but his son persisted, and went in. He had not remained on the bank long before he heard the deceased cry out that he was entangled in the weeds and was drowning. Wi tness 7.ite dead. Verdict—Ac • could not Swim, and was therefore unable to render him as least assistance, but he called loudly for help. A a few seconds and jumped into the water, could u n c or s e u i c n ceed in finding him before he r cident al death. AGED • • ~ND DECAYED FREEHASONS.--The annual festival in aid of the Asylum for Aged and De cayed Freemasons, will take place at the Freemasons' Tavern on Tuesday, the 15th inst. We are glad to learn that this useful institution is well supported by the brotherhood. Last year there was a splendid meeting on the occasion, and we have no doubt that on Tuesday next there will be an equal, if 'not a superior, display. Some excellent singers are engaged, and judging fr o m the past, there will be no lack of good speeches. BRUSSELS, JUNE. 7.--Amorg the foreigners of disiinciion who have lately arrived at Brussels, are Prince Galitzin from St. Petersburgh,Baron Van Zuyieu,the m arqu i s ' de Mortemmt, and the Prince of Salm Salm. .. 4 11 o.s • Ask W l* ) = ite 1:4 91 a]iPERIA,I., : ,PARLIA►M} ROUSE 6 - 1 7 T0 4 3' — iiI0.1.irS, June 9. The SPEAkEn tooVthealair at the usual hour. The Totness 'Small Debts Bill, the Bourne Drainage Bill, the London. and Greenwich Railway Bill, the Dublin Wide S.treets Jai 11, the Woodside and Hoylake Road Bill, and the Traler Navigation and Harbour Bill, were re t4lay's Estate Bill and the AtherSton Small Debts Bill were read a second time. The Drogheda Harbour Bill and Wemyss Estate Bill were read a third time and passed. The' lonia. Amendments to the Bristol and Exeter Railway Bill auU Monkland Canal Bilr-were agreed to: Sir MATTHEW WOOD presented a petition from the Ward oe.Farringdon Within, in favour of the proposi tions of her AfaLiesty's Ministers. - Sir R. BATESON presented two petitions from Londonderry against Church patronage in Scotland. Mr. VIVIA.N . presented a petition from Cornwall in favour of a modification of the Import Duties. Mr. GREIG pkesented a petition from Perth, signed by 4,000 inhabitants,in favour of a repeal of the Corn-laws. Mr. VERNO.NTresented a petition in favour of the present Corn-laws. _ _ Colonel G. LANC.I:-' TON presented several petitions in favour of the reduction of the duties on sugar, timber, and corn. Mr. GILLON presented petitions from Ayr, Lanark, Dumbarton, Falkirk, Biggar, Hamilton, Dundee, Glas gow, Edinburgh, Perth, and several other places, signed by 7,000 persons, many of them emanating from large public meetings, and signed by the chairman on their behalf, all praying for a repeal of the Corn-laws. Mr. O'CONNELL presented a petition from an indi vidual complaining of ill usage from the Portuguese Go vernment ; also a petition . from the - old Dublin police, praying for compensation ; and a petition from the Ca tholics of Dundee, praying for a repeal of the Corn-laws and of the import duties on timber and sugar. Sir E. FILMER presented a petition from Kent against any alteration of the Corn-laws. Colonel SALWEY presented a petition from 1,314 inhabitants of Madeley and Broseley, in Shropshire, agreed to at a public meeting, praying fora small fixed duty on corn in lieu of the present fluctuating scale, and in favour of the measures now before Parlia ment with respect to the import duties ; also pe titions from 1,982 inhabitants of Coalpit Bank, Oakengate, and Ironbridge, Salop, for the immediate abolition of the Corn-laws ; from Bridgnorth, to the same effect ; and a petition from 460 females of Bridg north, praying the House to pass into a law the proposi tion recently made by her Majesty's Ministers in refe rence to the cruel Corn-laws, and thereby humanely suffer them not to die the inhuman death of starvation. Mr. PLUMPTRE presented several petitions from the counties of Monmouth and Montgomery, in favour of the Corn-laws ; also twelve petitions praying for the repeal of the Catholic Relief Bill ,• and a petition from Leicester, praying that railways and canals might be pro hibited all traffic on the Lord's Day. • Colonel SIBTHORP presented several petitions from places in Lincolnshire against any alteration of_ the Corn-laws. Sir E. KNATCHBULL presented several petitions from places in Kent against the proposal of her Ma jesty's Ministers for an alteration of the Corn-laws. Mr. PHILIP HOWARD presented a petition from the Catholics of Carlisle in favour of the measures of her Majesty's Ministers with respect to the import duties on corn, sugar, and timber. Mr. CAVENDISH presented several petitions pray ing for a repeal of the Corn-laws. Mr. CRESSWELL presented a petition from the Town Council of Liverpool praying that certain clauses in the Metropolitan Police Act might be made applicable to the kingdom generally ; also, from the same body, pray ing that Liverpool might be made the station for the American packets ; also a petition from the West India merchants of Liverpool to the same effect. Mr. W. DUNCOMI3E presented a petition from the farmers of the North Riding of Yorkshire against any alteration of the Corn-laws. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE presented petitions from various districts in London, and from Leamington Priors, in Warwickshire, praying for the liberation of all persons confined for political -offences ; also a petition from an individual in Nottingham, whose name we could not catch, denying the allegations of the petition of Edward Pellham Cox, and stating that gross bribery had been committed at the last Nottingham election by the agents of the sitting Member. As the subject was to be brought under the consideration of the House tomorrow, he hoped there would be no objection to have the petition printed with the votes, • • • Mr. ESTCOUBT, under the peculiar circumstances of the case, saw no objection to the motion of the Hon. Member. The petition was then ordered to be printed, Colonel ANSON presented six petitions from places in Staffordshire, and a petition from Wednesbury, in Shrop shire, signed by 2,000 persons ; and another from Dar lington, signed by 2,000 persons, all praying for the re peal of the Corn-laws. Mr. AGLIONBY presented a petition from the Pro testant Dissenters of Mttryport, and also fifteen petitions from different parts of the metropolis, all praying for a repeal of the_porn:litws. _ _ _ _ Mr. SOTHERON presented two petitions from parishes in Wiltshire, in favour of Church Extension. Mr. VILIAERS presented petitions from Mansfield, Basford, and Langwith, in the county of Nottingham, Devizes, Patney, and Great Cheverell, in the county of Wilts, Aldbury, and Great I3erkhampstead, in the county of Hertford, and Milnathort, Barnham, and Moffat, Scotland, all praying for a total repeal of the Corn-laws. Mr. CLAY presented petitions from different parts of the county of Middlesex, praying the House to pass the Government measure for the alteration of the Corn-laws. Mr. HINDLEY presented petitions from the A.hori , . gines Society, complaining of the instructions given to Colonel Gawler, the Governor of South Australia, to the police of that colony to retaliate summarily on the natives for the supposed murder by them of the crew of the ship Adelaide. He was sorry the Noble Lord the Secretary for the Colonies was not in his place * i t s he wished to draw his attention to the petition, Mr. F. MAULEpresented petitions from Edinburgh, Perth, and various other places in Scotland, in favour of the Government measure for an alteration in the duties on corn, sugar, and timber ; also petitions from various parts of the metropolis, praying for a repeal of the Corn-laws. - Lord J. STEWART presented a petition from some place, the name of which we could not catch, praying or a repeal of the Corn-laws. Mr. JOHN JERVIS presented a petition from Bangor in favour of a repeal of the Corn-laws, Mr. DENNISON presented a petition from Epsom praying for a removal of all taxes which pressed on the food of the people ; also a petition from Pimlico praying for the opening of the Waterloo and Vauxhall-bridges. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE *presented a petition from a place in Forfarshire, praying for the release of political offenders, and the adoption the people's Charter. Mr. Ai of STON presented a petition from a parish in Hert fordshire against any alteration in the present Corn-laws. Mr. HINDLEY gave notice, that on the Order of the Day being read for going•into Committee of Supply on Friday next, he should bring forward a motion calling the attention of the House to the injustice done to the lower and middle classes of society by the existing sys tem of legislation, and especially by the present Corn laws. Mr. WARD said, that as the Committee of the House had reported that the Hon. Henry Thomas Manners Sutton had been guilty of bribery at the last elec tion for Cambridge, he begged to give notice, that on Friday next he would move that the At torney-General be directed to prosecute Mr, Swann and another agent whose name we could not catch, and that he also be directed to prosecute the Hon. H. T. M. Sutton for bribery at the said election.—(Hear, hear.) MR, O'CONNELL. _ _ _ Mr. Sergeant JACKSON said he had to request the attention of the House for a few moments to a matter which was personal to himself.—(llear.) It would be in the recollection of the House that in the debate last week the Hon. Member for Dublin made an attack upon the landlords of Ireland, in which he charged them with harshness and cruelty to their tenants. It fell to his (Mr. Sergeant Jackson's) lot to reply to the Ho nourable and Learned Gentleman ; and in doing so he stated that he.had been informed that the Hon. and Learned Gentleman. himself was guilty of harshness in his treatment of his tenants. He asked the Hon. and Learned Gentleman to deny that he had in the month of April distrained his tenants for rents due in the preceding March. All the Hon. Member (Mr. O'Connell) said was, that if it were so, it happened without his knowledge, and he would make inquiries about it. He (Mr. Sergeant Jackson) felt it his duty now to read to the House a let ter that he had found on his table that morning. It bore the post mark of Castle Connell, and was dated June 6, 1841. It came from the Mr. Twiss in question, and was to the following effect :—" Dear Sir, I have read with great 'pleasure the statement ma d e by you in the House of Commons on the night of the 3d of June inst., in which you. stated that my notorious countryman, Daniel O'Connell, distrained his tenants in the month of April, 1838, for rent due the month before. This I know to be the strict truth, and I heard it from the distrainer, and all the tenants. I was on a visit at the time at my friend James Butler's, who lives within four miles of Derrynanc. I deem it right to put you in possession of these facts, and you are at liberty to make whatever use you choose of this communication." Mr O'CONNELL—What name ? _ _ Mr. Sergeant JACKSON—It is signed " Robert Twiss." He was thus enabled to gratify the Hon. and Learned Gentleman with the particulars he was so anxious to obtain. He should likewise state that he had that morning found the memorandum to which he had referred, and which, as he had promised, he had communicated to the son of the Hon. and Learned Gen tleman. It was as follows :—" April, 1838—Distress by D. O'C., for rent due the 25th of March preceding. Twiss." Mr. O'CONNELL said that if ever there was an in stance in which the usual rule ought to have been fol 107:ea, of not making attacks upon indi v id ua l s w i t h out first apprising them of it, the present w as th at case. The Honourable and Learned Gentleman opposite had made an attack upon him from no bett er i n f ormat i on than from that of a Mr. Twiss, whose Christian name he did not know, and who had only come i n t o hi s study, and stated that he (M r. 0 Connell) had distrained upon his tenants. Now he would put it to any lion. Member whether that was a ground for making such a charge.—(Cheers.) The name of Mr. James Butler had been introduced, and it had been stated th at h e (Mr.. O'Connell) ha d claimed relationship with that gen tleman ; he denied that he had ever clone so ; but, at the same time, he confessed that he should have been proud of such an honour.—(" He ar , h ear, " and cheers:)' "He. (Mr. O'Connell) pronounced the state ments in _the letter of &L Mr.. TN . viss .to be an utter ai:sad, _WTxd AT) IYakunosables those distraiuts r • • I had taken place in April, that he (Mr. O'Connell) should • not have heard of them. Now he would ask who was this Mr. Twiss ? He (Mr. O'Connell) thought that .at one time he was a Magistrate, but he thought that he was not si) now. If he was rightly informed, he believed that gentleman had had considerable misfortunes in life : that he had taken the benefit of the Insolvent Act. Such was the person whose authority the Learned Sergeant opposite had quoted against him, one who was proverbial in Kerry for the inaccuracy of his state ments— (Cheers)--and who had a denomination at tached to his name which was not very creditable to any Party—the appellation of " Lying Bobi Twiss," an appellation, which he (Mr. O'Connell) believed he had enjoyed fur the last twenty-five years.--A(Laughter.). As he had said _before he had never stated that Mr. Butler was a relatiori of his. He should have been most proud if he had been. He (Mr. O'Connell) would leave it to the House to say, whether the Honourable and Learned Member for Bandon had brought forward any ground for the charge he had brought against him (Mr. O'Connell) and that too without any intimation whatever to him. He could easily account for the conduct of the Hon. and Learned Member ; he had his motives and objects for what he had done, and he was very near obtaining them. . Mr. Sergeant JACKSON denied that he had opened an office to receive complaints, but he could not prevent gentlemen walking into kis study.—(oh !) He could not have given the Hon. Member-notice, because he was not aware that it was the intention of the Hon. and Learned Member to bring forward the subject of the harshness of the Irish landlords. Mr. LOCKHART begged to ask whether it was the intention of the Government to renew a circular they had issued to the clerks of Justices of the Peace in Scotland, to prevent their acting as political agents. Mr. FOX MAULE said the Government had no power to issue such an order at all. It was known that many Justices' Clerks acted as political agents, and his Noble Friend the Secretary of the Colonies issued a Cir cular stating that such conduct did not meet the approval of the Government. Most of them intimated their in tention to refrain in future, but some- refused, and the Government, he found, had no power to compel them. Lord J. RUSSELL moved that the Orders of the Day be read. The first Order was for the second reading of the Col lege of Maynooth Bill, but as no Icon. Member made any motion on the subjeet, it was passed over. • DOG-CARTS BILL. On the motion for going into Committee on the Dog Carts' Bill, Mr. PRYME opposed the motion; on the ground that it was an interference with a humble class of traders: He was glad to see his Right Hon. Friend the ChanCellor of the Exchequer in the House. If his Right Hon.. Friend would consent to allow an ass to be used--(Loud laughter)—it might seem very ludicrous to the House to name the animal ; it might perhaps be more agreeable to Right Hon. Gentlemen if he (Mr. P.) called the, tanimal by the name of donkey.—(Loud laughter, which con tinued for several minutes.) What he meant to say was, that if an ass were allowed to be used with the same license as was paid for using a dog, it would tend ma terially to lessen the number of dog-carts, at least by one-tenth, throughout / the country. He would con clude by moving that the Bill be committed this day six months. Mr. WARBITRTON seconded the motion, because he was satisfied that it was a waste of the time of the House to legislate on such trivial matters. Last year it had been attempted to excite a feeling on the subject by appealing to their humanity, and stating that the dog was not proper for a beast of draught. Surely those who had made such a statement must have forgotten the Kamschatka dogs. The object of the measure was to prevent persons possessed of small means and in humble life; who could not afford to employ other animals, from doing their best to gain a livelihood. If the reason for putting down these carts was, that dogs were small animals and liable to throw down horses, then they ought to graduate the dimensions of all ani mals suffered to draw in the streets, and to prohibit Shetland ponies. —{Hear, hear.) Sir R. INGLIS was one of those whose name was on the back of the Bill; and he considered it an honour to have his name there.—(Hear, hear.). The opposition came entirely from the political economists. The Honourable Gentleman who moved the amendment was Professor of Political Economy in the Uni versity of Cambridge, and his Quixotical friend, the Member for Bridport seconded it. The true way to get rid of this subject would be to move for leave bring in a Bill to re pe a l th e c l ause in 'the Metro; - olitan Police Act, for he could not understand on ciple the dogs of th e t own should be planed in a different position from the dogs in the C ountry.—{A laugh.) The Lapland and Kamschs.tlia doffs drew on slow, and not on a hard pavement. He Should support the Bill. Mr. HUME said that, lie had been a member of the Committee before which the evidence was taken, which led to the proposal of this Bill. Upon the evidence adduced before that Committee he would not give it his support. If the question were one of humanity, why should donkeys be allowed to be ridden ?—(llear.) He believed there were no animals who were worse used than donkeys ; and if the questior, were put on the ground of humanity, the UM should be applied to them. There was no doubt but any animals might be abused, but that was no reason why they should never be em ployed. He therefore submitted that the case was one which should be left to the good sense and to the humanity of individuals. Mr. EAST replied. He had introduced the Bill for the purpose of suppressing those cruelties to dogs, which took plat:* no less in the coun t ry th an i n town. It shWia always be remembered that the feet of dogs were not protected by nature so as to enable them to bear heavy weights. The Bill was extremely simple, following closely the provisions of the Metropolitan Act, but extending it to the country. He hoped therefore the House would al low It to be proceeded with. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the House diviaed, when there appeared, For going into Committee Against 1$ Majority -1 1 1 The House then went into Committee. On the first clause being proposed, Mr. WARBURTON said that by that clause, if a child were riding on a Newfoundland dog in a private garden, a constable might enter the garden, take the parties be fore a single Magistrate, and have them convicted in the penalties of the Act. Nay, if a dog drew a kettle tied to his tt ; .l.--(Loud laugh,ter)the case would come under the provisions of the Act. The Act made no distinction between public roads and private grounds. It was ab surd enough to legislate on the subject at all, but he put it to the House whether they could tolerate such a tyrannical absurdity as this enactment. Colonel SALWEY opposed the Bill on the ground that it would put an end to the sport of shooting. In his opinion it was altogether an absurd attempt at legislation. Mr. FOX MAULE proposed to strike out the words " or carrying any burden." The clause as amended was then agreed to. On clause l being put, Mr. FOX MAULE moved that the penalty, instead of being 40s. for the first offence and 51. for the next, should be reduced to ss. and 31. Mr. WARBURTON complained of the summary ju risdiction with which it was proposed to invest the Ma gistrates. The clause was then agreed to. On the clause authorising constables to apprehend of fenders Wit'uout a warrant, and take them before a Ma gistrP:te, being put, kr. WARBURTON proposed that it should be ():Hatted altogether. Mr. C. BULLER said that a policeman had no power to take up a person guilty of an assault without a war rant, but in the graver offence of employing a dog to draw a cart it , appeared that he was to have the power.—(Hear, and a laugh.) He complained of this great legislative enactment that it was imperfect, inasmuch as it made no provision for the objects of its peculiar care. When they had taken up the man, what did they propose to do with the dog?—(A laugh.) He was deprived of his only natural protector, and did they intend to leavelim to the wide world, without any food but such as he could get without attacking any unfortu nate passenger?—(Cheers and laughter.) A Bill had been brought in by a worthy Alderman some years since, for the prevention of hydrophobia, which had been treated with great ridicule by the Right Hon. Baronet, the Member for Tamworth. One clause of that Bill em powered a constable to take up any mad dog.—(Roars of laughter.) In consequence of various imperfections, that Bill was referred to a Select Committee, the mem bers of which had, he supposed, been chosen for their names. These were Mr. Lamb, Mr. Fox, and him self (Mr. " Bull"er)—(Loud and continued laughter)— who was at the time a very young Member. That Committee,, however, had elicited some most im portant medical testimony, from which it appeared that hydrophobia was one of the rarest diseases known, and that it never originated spontaneously, but was always the consequence of absolute contagion. The Hon. Mem ber for Shoreham supported the measure on the ground of humanity to bad riders, as dog -carts made horses shy and unhorse gentlemen who were not very firm in their saddles ; but if they were to legislate for the safety of gentlemen who could not ride well, they ought to go further. Many horses shied at a wheelbarrOw—(A laugh)—and he never knew a horse who would pass a knife-grinder's wheel without shying.—(Loud laughter.) Therefore, if they wished to carry out their legislative fdresight for gentlemen who could not ride well to the full, they ought to follow up this great measure—(Loud laughter)--by a Bill against knife-grinders' wheels and wheelbarrows. —(Cheers and laughter.) The clause was then agreed to, and the House resumed. DANISH CLAIMS. Mr: MSSWELL moved :that the House do resolve itself into a Comnaittee of the whole House, to address her Majesty on the subject of the Danish claims. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said it was undoubt edlyr true that a . resolution had been adopted by the House for an address to the Crown on the subject of these claims, the amount of which was somewhere about 270,00 W. lie was sure it would be gratifying to the House to afford relief to any persons who had sus tained loss; but he did not think they ought to vote away so large a sum of the public money without taking into consideration the circumstances under which these claims were made. On the present occasion he felt that the amount was or very little importance, compared with the principle involved in it. The House was no doubt aware of the general nature of these claims. On two occasions lately it had been discussed in that House. It appeared to him that the arguments did not embrace the entire principle. The compensation asked for on the present occasion was compensation for the loss of certain ships and goods, which were seized by the Danish Government, in 1807, in consequence of the attack that had been made on Copenhagen by this coun try. About 30 years afterwards was the first time an application was made to the House of Commons on the subjec*. The first application was made for compensa tiaa for the loss sustained by certain individuals in the confiscation of debts which bad been owing by Danish b-4,6qTr i fxf* EVENING EDITION. subjects to the, subjects-of. this _coun try,,.and which _bad been confiscated iii consequende of the events - to I. he had alluded. Subsequently there was a cuinpensation for goods on shore, which had been seized by the Da nish Government A discussion took and it -ap peared to the House that they might, with propriety, sanction these claims for compensation.—(Hear, hear.) The grounds on which these claims were urged by Sir James Mackintosh were very general, but they were to the effect that the goods seized and the debts confiscated were seized and confiscakd contrary to the law of nations, and that where the Go vernment did not enforce redress, they were hound to _ make good the claims of their own subjects. That point was discussed more than once, and undoubtedly it did seem that the principle which hid been laid down and acted upon, was that if the subjects of one country did not think it right to enforce compensation from the offending Government, the burthen was trans ferred to the Government to which the party belonged. The concession of those claims gave rise to an anplica- tion, he thought in the year 1834 or 1836, on behalf of the owners of ships and goods which had been seized afloat; encouraged by the success of the previous application, petitions were presented on behalf of this claim. Various statements had been made to the House in relation to the facts, on a former occasion, when the subject of th e claim was b roug ht b e f ore the House, when it was nega tived. It was since advocated by several able Members of the House. Although the principle he had referred to was adopted by the House in relation to debts and goods on shore, no such authority was applicable to the pre sent question, because it stood on a different footing, and involved a principle which was totally different. He would now call the attention of the House to a distinct statement of the facts, as many speeches had been made in that House on the subject which varied somewhat as to the true statement respecting the origin of these claims. It would be material for the House to attend to the state of relations existing between this country and Denmark at the time of the seizure of the ships and goods. On the 27th of July, 1807, the English fleet sailed from this country with sealed orders, and arrived early in August in the Great Belt, and cut off all communica tion between Zealand and Europe. From the 3d of August negotiations were prosecuted by Mr. Jackson, seeking for the surrender of the Danish fleet for the security of this country. Upon the 16th of August --a most important date—the Danish Government issued a proclamation. stating that the Danish Envoy had on the 13th declared that hostilities would commence, and therefore tha% . the two countries were at war ; and then gave orders for the seizure and detention en British property. - Now, as very much 3 : aid been • of said on every occasion on the subject of want of notice of caution on the part of those ' in posse ssion of the ships and goods which were ul. t4 lmately seized by the Danish Government, and for claimed, he wished to impr ' - enich compensation was iss upon the House - the cir cumstances which occu'eed at this date, the 16th, long be fore the seizure of - ale property. A proclamation was issued by the P- : anis., Government stating that the two countries , nre at war at the same date. Admiral Gam bier put;ished a document explaining the objects of the 4 exintition, and seeking the . possession of the Danish Peet, and threatening capture in case of refusal. On the _ 14 4; 2 4th the Dani s h G overnment i ssued a further manifesto; and on the 25th of August the Admiral, who was the officer of that country, issued an order for the detention of the Danish vessels. On the 2d of September the bombardment of Copenhagen took place, and on the same day there was an Order in Council for the seizure of the Danish ships. On the 23d of Sep tember a manifesto was issued by Great Britain, and on the 4th of November there was a declaration of was.. • Now in the course of the discussion which had taktis place on this subject the Chancellor of the Exchequer had protested egainst being supposed to sanction. the claim. The matter was referred to a Committee, in 'order to ascertain the facts connected with the claims ; and a report was ultimately obtained in July last upon these, facts. That report gave the dates on which the seizures had taken place. .He had called the attention of that House to the date of the 16th of August One vesssel was seized on the 23d of August, and four or. the 25th. In the month of September }mere were five. The who of the remaind e r were seized at'a laterperiod, extent' ins. to September , October and Y .ovember, and:l3 claim to which_ he had referred 'inbracecl the whole of tA~} a pt e :ees down to the MOD tI A. of Dececmber. Now what. ee ground upon wbiel the House was justified in ie „aposing a burthen exceeding a quarter of a million on the public in respect of these captures? However mutih it might be lamented that public events should in. Iflict loss upon individuals, it was not a receive-a prin ciple that taxes sh ou ld be imposed, and that c om p ensa - I tion should be paid by the public to individuals who un fortunately suffered from the operations of war. It required something more than that an enemy should have seized the property to warrant the House in voting public money to relieve the sufferers. If *hese vessels had been seiz e d accor di ng to t h e laws of war as ob served amongst civilized nations, what was the ground upon which the House could distinguish the Danish claims from the immense class of ruined persons who had suffered from the seizures of France, Russia, and other nations ? It was most material to see whether there was any real ground of distinction. He had cautiously attended to the grounds urged at various times in order to induce the House to vete the public money. First of all it had been stated that these individuals had a claim to compensation, because they had no notice of the inten tion of t'nis country to commence hostilities with Den 'Mee ; that they embarked upon their voyage, and re mained in the Baltic in full confidence that the amicable relations between this country and Denmark were not likely to be disturbed. He presumed that something more must be shown than that the Government did not give notice to the merchants of this country when they were about to commence hostile operations, or to commit a hostile act, or to commence a war against another Power.—(Hear, hear.) Whoever attended. to the cir cumstances attending the seizure of the Danish fleet would perceive that the slightest previous intimation of the intention of the Government, if it had not totally defeated the immensely important obje2t which was gained by the seizure of the Danish fleet, would at least have added very greatly to the difficulty of the enter prise. It was impossible, consistent with public duty and with public policy, that the Government could have been justified in giving such information. No notice therefore was given prior to the sailing of the fleet, ex cept what was afforded by those public acts to which he had referred. He presumed that when the British fleet appeared off Copenhagen, and occupied the station which it did, no man in his senses would draw any other inference than that it was extremely probable, that hostilities would take place. The vessels did not arrive there certainly with any view to preserve peace in any sense which could induce persons to suppose that they were secure. But this fleet arriving there at the date he had mentioned—on the 3d of August—these vessels continued there. He would not say that by such conduct they had acted imprudently. While the fleet was there, he would not deny but that they were safe enough ; but when they traced the course of events, and found these vessels remaining after the English fleet had left the Baltic, taking with them the Danish fleet and stores, no one could contend but that they had had abun dant information given to them, sufficient to put any prudent persons on their guard ? He begged the House to notice what the principle was on which this compensation was claimed—(Hear)—and to what that principle would lead. If that country found it necessary, on a sudden emergency to make an attack on a Foreign Power, and the Foreign Power should seize on British property—thus circumstanced, would that make a claim for compensation. He beseeched the House to look to the public consequences to which such a principle must lead. He therefore thought that the argument that they had not had sufficient intimation was one which was not applicable in the , present instance. But it was said that they ought t o consider the peculiar circumstances under which that fleet had gone to Den mark. As far as he could gather them the circum stances were these. The Government of the day, having, no doubt, obtained secret information of the fact, understood that the Danish Government had agreed to give Bonaparte the use of their fleet to serve against . this country. In fact there was a secret article to that effect in the Treaty of Tilsit. The British Government having obtained information of that fact, acted in antici pation of the secret article. They found the Danish Go vernment was a weak Government compared with the French, and k new t h at t h ey h a d agree d to a id t h e French _ against thi s country b y t h e l oan o f t h e D an i s h fleet, and undoubtedly, an d h e thought rightly, before that seFrFt article could be known, the Government thought it right to save this co un t r y f rom t h e d angerous pos iti on in whiul it would be placed by th e execut i on o f th a t secret article ve of the Treaty, by sen di ng to D enmar k an d seizin g the fleet. If, said th e lion. and Learned Gentleman, aak man possessed an instrument capable ofdestroyinug.eyako u,maanad a strong man, your enemy, had induced the to lend him that instrument, and you knew t beforehand, who would hesitate to wrest the weapon rn his hand ? It was not possible to discuss such a questiont on narrow the propriety or impropriety of that war had anythingn to decide on claims for compensation by looking ot to do with the grounds. But he did not apprehend that legal part of the question. They of the justice or the injustice of the war. That ques tion was to be decided on other principles. He knew t he seizure of the Danish were b a k to the history' c that some persons considered if they should kyle unfortunate result for the couny in the opinion of a down as a principle that because unity hostilities were linjus fleet An act of great aggression, but it would be a most certain portion of the comm b ti e fiab e l n e t , itle th d at parties thus . situated.Atould on. Allusion had :br te t . i . made to a conversation stated to have taken . place I GambierTand certain persons interested tween Admire the time the fleet were in the Baltic. in these claims at It had been stated that two persons asked the Admiral to the c r o e if they might notsafel y go u p m fb p re ensa the Baltic, and that the Admiral h a d told them they might. Now th a t con sation had been brought forward thirty years after it :e r as stated to have taken place, when Admiral Gambier was dead, and when the only witnesses to it were the persons interested in making the claims. He thought no one could doubt that such evidence was not sufficient to warrant them in coming to a decision on the subject, more especially when they had no knowledge of the dates when, or the circumstances under which such con versations took place. He knew that the Government had caused search to be made among the public documents, in order to ascertain if, any douments could be discovered to justify the opinion that the Government of the day had misled the merchants, but no such document could be found. He would therefore previous motion, nor the say that neither the recent nor prei justice or injustice of the war, formeda a nground The granting compensation in the present instance.__ next ground alleged was that the English fleet was in the Baltic for a certain time and had left it without pro tection. Now he (the Solicitor-General) presumed that in those who were there were not in a situation w hi ch facts so notorious and open to the, public as the-British fleet being in the Baltic and having the whole-Danish fleet in its possession were not known to theka, 4‘ Tha very fact of its leaving the .Balti c was too notorious fOr such a state of things and the state of afairi - 2-4 2./ dfootrt, . *. ,, T •