The Sun. — London, England, 1819-05-10 00:00:00

FOR THE SUN. MR. Etwron—NothiTig, I see, will quiet Po pery until she gets her Quietus, Within twenty fo.t hours after tier defeat, site renews her attack. if this does not Fove the instant necessity of pl o 'Airing all her farther attempts, I know not ‘'‘ hut will convince us. The stale trick—almost as stale as ring-drop- ping—is again resorted •to. Some small relaxa tions are demanded, upon the argument of their, smallness : should these be conceded, the conces sion will be adduced as a 'reason for granting something more important. So the mancEnvre began—and so it will finish. Every boon which Popery has obtained was asked—ali granted— upon this principle; until nothing remained, ex rept the State, either to be asked or granted ; and then we were plumply told, that, atter having granted so much, we ought not to refuse the re mainder. A blessed argument truly ! becau,e we have been weak, and credulous, and foolish, through forty years ; our weakness, our credulity, and our tally, are to be continued to the end of the chapter !—We are never to become steady, Cautious, or wise !—Logie like this may do well enough the EnOish Popish Board, or the Irish Popish Del,g3tion, tlee Earl AlmatiALl or for the Priest Mit.Naz.--for the .Jesuits of .!.'2,toneyborst, or the of Mayonoth—hut it will trot go down with the free and pit rieged Protestatits of Britain. 'With the alternative which the friends of Pa- very have now so boldly put, I cnincine, onhesi tat;ngly and g)adly. Atl that remains ungronted must be given, or all that hos been given must be re sumed. its latter, clause, however, is not only the wisest, but the safest, Better it is, to meet the disappoint tw.nt of Popery-than her triumph to encounter her rebellion than to fed her as cendancy. And in tlis opinion lam fortified by the at gonient of ter friends—that Protestant safety depends on Popish Emancipation—since, if her al legiance, hangs so loose as to be shahen off by the retusal of our State, its purchase. is not only too dear at such a sacrifice, but is utterly insc• cure at any sacrifice at all.—No:—Let us, while the weapon is in our hands, while its edge is un bated'and its guard unbroken, let us strike out of OUT enemy's hand . the sword which we foolishly placed in it, Let us begin with repealing the Irish Statute 33d George 1/1. Chap. 21, which, among its' other unfortunate concessions, enabled the Irish Papists to vote at E'ections of Members of Par liament. lo most .of the Irish Counties, and, indeed, of the Cities and Bornugl►s also, the Po pish voters preponderate; and no Candidate can Lope to I•ae returned, u►►less he undertakei to sa crifice the Protestant Establishment to his Po pish Constituents., But more of this anon. My proposnion will shortly come before the Public -and the Legislature, with all its requisite argue meets and details. I say, that the attempts of Popery upon our Establi‘hment arc systematically villainous. They are marked with the broadest and most hateful features of deception.—But, in this censure, I do not include her Protestant Supporters, either in or out of Parliament. Many of these may con scieotioody think that they are serving and saving the Protestant Cause. Their delusion is to he wondered at, and to be pitied —not to be blamed. Sonic may be misled by the flourishes of libera lity; others may be induced by the kit of ren dering themselves popular. Alone of these mo tives, however, can be ascribed to the treacher 011R, the intolerant, the virdictive Papist ; who, like NAPOLEON at 3,4 a—with ". Peace on his lips, and poison in his hand," proffers to us destruction io the guise, of security. No—Sir—no.—We will not be tricked Out of our Establishment. AVe desire to meet the high wayman, with whom we can hold the deadly struggle ; not the Pickpocket, who filches our purse, and then sets up an alibi ; not the swind 7 ier, who gets our hand to a Bill, and then absconds with its value. I trust, Sir, that when the next deceived Pro testant moves for the relief of the deceiving Pa pist, our Legisl a ture will take care that Popery gets rid of no " InalifiCations;" that she is not en,ibled to increase the " Schools" of her boors! Jesoitisto, avid extend its dangetous doc trine. Beware of her !—Watch and Ward ! VIGIL In' addition to the expedition that has lost s a i! e d for exploring Baffin's Bay, and determining t h e t - x iirence of a communication by water to rwArds Behring's Straits, another is about to be nit ser,tkeil 0) lan!, which is to proceed in a northern direction iront tile Hudson Bay Com pany's settlements. The persons to be employed in tlt s ardoons tintlertal6ng, it is said, are select ed ; Jvci, front tlle assistance of the Notth Arne trill(-1, every prOspect of soccess is enter tained, It will he recollected, that many years iq; 10 it Irvine, and more recently Arr. M'Kenzi:.-', led in with toe sea at two intermediate points, a coniderable distance front each ix - her, betv,:ecn Behring's Straits and Ballitt's Bay. FOR THE SUN. SiIdGEtiTIONS ON THE INSOLVENT DEBTORS' ACT. [Continued and concluded.l Mn. Enttroa—lf imprisonmeart is resorted to for compelling payment, it must be on the pre sumption of solvency, for it is no part of the Debtor's contract with the Creditor to submit to imptisonmeot in default of payment. if insol vency I esult%, the punishment should not visit the Debtor's foture industry to an extent which must check its exertion. With the loss of liberty he loin paid•what the law requires of him, a sin ieto;t r of his effects tieing the coodirion of his dis charL,.e, arid the caps sun of the hotly being the highest satisfaction which the law allows. And it ,cems hut just that a into a defendant has given hail to the Sheriff, and afterwards obtains a dis charge as to the debt on which he was so held to b nil, such discharge on the terns of the Act should be also an exoneration of the bail. It is observable that the expeoces attending the exe cution of the Act have been much complained of, and it woidd be well to diminish them. Taking the expeneea of each Debtor's discharge at an average only of at. each, and the number of 20,000 Debtors to have been released, the charge thereon during th' operation of the Act has been 100,0001. which would have been flinch better applied in liquidation of the Debts. View also the operation of exitance resultil g from imprison merit, generally four months to each Debtor; take that expence at only .5/. each Debtor, and there is another 100,0001. wasted by coofitsement. Add to this the charge of sapporiiug a family, which would have been paid. from the earnings of tbe Debtors if at large, and take such charge for each family at 101. only for the time the Debtor is coiliti,o, upon an average four months, tine awount Iheraot would be 200,0001. Therefore a thorter term of confinement, or no imprison ascot at all, would be much more beneficial to the Creditors and tare public, as preventing that accumulation ref expence attending the loss of • 'tarty and labour. And it may not he unimpor tarn to observe, that the Fees of Admission to, • anti dcparture.from, many of the Prisons, as well as the Poundage and Fees for the Rules of the King's Bench and Fleet, amount to at least 100,0001. more, exelw.ively of the expence of Arrest and Officers' Fees, which taken at 5/. for each Debtor's caption and other proceeditigs, would amount to another 100,0001.: conse quently, above half a reillion of money has been lost to the Creditors and the Public by the lmprisonsnient of Debtors even for the time prescribed o'r restricted by the Insol vent Act. What would the loss be if mirt mired imprisonment was ,again resorted to anti allowed by law ? 'Fite most desirable results would follow the reduction of expence in all cases under the administration of the Act ; and if fixed sala ries were assigned to and provided for the Clerks of the Court, anti a Table of Fees established for persons who act in it, the charges which are now complained of would be considerably lessened, and . ' would no longer be arbitrary, as hitherto its Many cases they have been. Instances are knOwn of costs and charge, amounting to more than 201. claimed from the Debtor, as a condition for his discharge, after he hes actually sworn himself not possessed of as many shillings. The practice, too, would be lees fraught with evil, if confined only to professional men ; at present it is too,promis cuous. The continued imprisonment of the Debtor must inevitably entail expence on 'the Creditor, and, will always produce parochial burdens on the community. To abolish imprisonmeut would be therefore to diminish public expence ; to release tl,e present captives is a requisite of right. The dis charge of 20,000 persons in a state, of insolvency must necessarily have involved many others in pecuniary embarrassments, and very serious evils will result,, if the relief afforded to those already dischatged is not allowed to those enthralled under sitnilyr circumstances. 11Jerey to the former would produce cruelty to the latter. To leav'it a discre tion to Creditors would he asking the conqueror to take conditions from the prisoner; and the fundamental notion of :ill law is, that the fate of no member of the community shall he left to the cap:ice of another; It fraud even has been prac tised by Debtors already discharged, it affords no argument for vindictive conduct towards those now confined, and who probably have been greater sofferers by frauds than the Creditors who are loud in their complaints, and deficient in their proofs. The Report of the Lords' Committee, from whence this •Act originated, states very properly, that it ought to be considered, " The Creditor of to-day may be the Debtor of to-morrow ; and a . " system which affects with exaggerated harsh " nees, in their several turns, so many of the in " dkiduals constituting the community, cannot " be a convenient one for society." Anti in sup port of the manifest right on the part of the Debtor to he free from personal restraint until the debt is established by legal evidence, exclusive of the Creditor's oath, the Report states, " When it " is considered how cautions our Jurisprudence is " with regard to the admission of an interested 4 ' witness, when it is obvious that the plaintiff, in " such a case, is most avowedly interested,; when " it is remembered that in the cross accounts he tweet) parcies, a question of debt may be corn " plicated and• problematical, and that the oath of " the plaintiff would not be received as evidence "• on the trial, much delicacy ought to be ob " served as to sanctioning, on such grounds, any " measure which is to affect the credit, the mate " rial interests, or the liberty of the British sub " ject " Creditors who have parted with their property pending the existence of the statute, blame its protisions for the result of their iodiscretion.---- They should not hazard their property on specu lation of immense profits, and then be allowed to screw out payment by the torture of imprison ment., • ) celebrated Statesman, the late Mr. WIND HAM, 'Sai►t in the Senate, " Perish Commerce, let the Constituticli live." Ai an advocate for the rights of humanity, I would a6O soy, in answer to arguments for the support of speculative credit . , fetish Credit, let Humazaz y vive:' It is admitted hy many of the most opOlent awl respectable Corporate Bodies connected with tia,!e commerce, that, among other bemlicial operations of the insolvent Act, it has tended greatly to diininidi the influx of negociabte secu rities, by exciting a caution which has checked ihe circulation of Bills and Notes heretofore •in jorions to the communiy. Minor tradesmen have also adthitted, that since the passing of this Act, which has been in force five years, they have lost hut little in comparison with the losses sus rained in the previous five years, and the renewal of which losses would probably attend the repeal of the Act, Instead therefore of baing (as falsely alledged) a receipt for fraud or perjury, it has been a protecting law to legitimate trade, and a pietnittin to induce fair prices. W. M Temple. PAIZLIANI ENTARY BUSINESS. ORDP.RS OF THE DAY FOR MONDIY, IN THE HOUSE COMWONS. 1, Saying Banks (Scotland) Bill ;—Committee. 2, Royal Burghs :Iscotla‘ild) Accounts Bill;—Second Reading. t't, Barnstaple Bribery Bill ;—Second Reading. 4, Settlement of the Poor Bill ;—Further Consideration of Report. 5, Poor Rates Misapplication Bill ;—Second Reading. (1, American Convention Bill ;—Seconel Reading. 7, Children in Factories (Ireland) Bill t-i—Second Reading. 6, Land Tax Commissioners' Bill ;—Corudittee. 9, 'Poor Relief (Scotland) Bill ;—Further Consideration of Report. 10, Jury Court (Scotland) Bill ;—Committee. Gaols in 11,9yal Burghs Bill ;—Second Reading. , 12, Deputy Clerk of the Crown to attend, to amend Tauti- . . ton Return. 13, Supply;—Report. • t 4, Supply;—Committee. 15, Ways anti Means ;—Committee. 16, Country Bakers Regulation BM ;—Third Heading. 17, Revenue Payments Bill ;—Second Reading. PRIVATE BILLS :—Second Readings. 1, Barnsley ChHrch. 2, Fortescue's Estate Exoneration. - 3, Lord Blantyre's Estate. Last day for receiving Reports of Private Bills. TO CORitE,PONDENTS. loNoTus to-mrrow.—Nlany other Favours shall be inserted as sooni as possible. TO-MORROW THE LOTTERY DRAWS.—TWO PRIZES OF £20,000 MUST BE DRAWN IN THE FIRST FIVE MINUTES!—FOUR PRIZES OF ,CMoon—TWENTY TWO CAPITALS—AND ONLY 10,000 -TICKETS. THEATRICAL REGISTER. Performed on Sat erda MEATRF. ROYAL DRUELY-LANE.—Wanted a Wife: Princi pal Characters fay Mr. Munlen and :ars. W. West. After which, The Tale of Mystery. To nATRE: ROYAL, COVENT-GARDEN.----VeniCe Preserved : Pierre, 'Mr. Macready ; Belvidera, Miss O'Neill. After which, A Roland for an Oliver. PRICE OF STOCKS TRIS DAY AT rwELV:7 O'CLOCK. Bank Stock 250 Rank Long Atm. 18 11-16tlis 8 per Cent. lied ... .71!3, I India Bonds .275. 281. pr. S per Cent. Cons.. 721 3 , 717, 72 I 2d. .... 7s. Ss. pr. 3. T.er I:ent .. ....796 sO Ditto Commercial.... 2s. dis. 4 per Cents B9/ 90 Cons. for Account, 7:3 71/ 72 5 per Cent. Navy Ann. 10441 MAILS. AttjuvED-2 Dublin, 1 Harnbirgh, 1 Holland, 1 Flanders, 1 France. DUE-. 4 Dubiin, 2 Waterford, 1 Sweden. HIGH WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE TONIORROW. Morning, 41 mir.ute after 8. I Evening, 46 minutes after 3. T SUN. SOLFAI cons DIcEliE FA LS11)1 Atli/EAT? LONDON, MONDAY, MAY 10, 1819. We received yesterday and this morning the Paris Papers of, Thursday and Friday last. In the Chamber of Deputies the remaining articles of the projet respecting the Journals were disposed of.—M. MANUEL proposed an additional article, for the purpose of enacting that the securities should only be required till the year 1821. This was warmly supported by M. DE LA FAYETTE, and strenuously opposed by the KEEPER of the SEALS, who moved the previous question, which was agreed to without any scrutiny. An addl.! tional article was adopied for limiting the period of commencing suits, or prosecutions ; and . the Chamber proceeded to a scrutiny upon the whole projet ; the result was 153 in favour of it, and 45 against it ; the projet was consequently dechrA to be agreed to.—The Chamber adjourned till Friday. Lora Wurrwonrit, k is stated, means to stay some time at Paris. We mentioned from one of the Journals, that his Majesty gave an audience to the Prince WoLxoNsxt, Aid-de-Camp to the Emperor of Russin, but another assures its readers that there is no such personate at Pa- ris. Wednesday the KING held a Council which was attended, by all the Ministers. The freedom of the Journals, although posi tively asserted by themselves, has become for the present a question of doubtful interpretation, in consequence of an assertion made by the KEEPER of the SEALS in the Chamber of De puties on Tuesday, that the power of suppress ing them remained with the Government till the end of the present 'Session of the Chambers. This of course destroys all the liberty of writing in op position to the Government, and may he in ef fect worse than a Censorship. The Constitu tionel (the Journal du Commerce having ,re-as sumed its former titlt), in consequence of this un expected declaration of the KEEPER of the SEALS, calls upon the Government to put forth some official announcement upon the subject, in order that the Journals may know the actual state of their responsibility; but there appears to be little doubt that the statement made by the KrturEta t►f the SEALS was intended fur the express purpose of !ceeping the Journals in check till the new laW finally passed, although in opposition to an a rticle published in the Moniteur of the 11 inst., sta►ed to be authorized by the Government (though 1/(74 official), declaring that the Journals could not " suppressed except by the 5 ervence of a Tribunal' - The following are extracts .from Joo 1 " 51$ of Friday "_CHAMBER OF PEERS, THURSDAY, MAY G. The Coititt de Montalivet, one of the treat Peers, took the oaths and his seat. " The Alarqutis de Mange, tvhose titles ‘‘'e re verified by a Committee, was ordered to be re• eeived on Saturday. " The projet respeetiog'servitodes imposed 00 property tor the defence of the State was, after discussion, agreed to, 138 to 3. " Adjourned till Saturday. " PARIS, MAY 7.—Count Woronzow (father of the General), formerly Rusbian Amhass.ador England, has arrived at Paris, and a young Cou nt Woronzow, Cousin of the General. "Several Prelates, designated to form an clesiastical Committee, assembled yesterday at th e hotel of the Cardinal Grand Almoner, ip ort let to receive from the Minister of the Interior sog le important communications respecting the aff 4 i rs of the Church of France. It is supposed th at they relate to new Coovetitions with the Court of Rome, It is understood that the Concordat df 1801 will continue to be carried into effect, O a that, according to its arrangements, the King immediately to nominate to the vacant Bishopricks' " Three churches at Paris are to be fitted of for the worship of the Protestants. • " It is supposed that PI ince K iraclja, tha lat e . Hospodar of Wallachia, who has made an id 3: pottant purchase at Pisa, will definitively OW blish his residence there. FIVE PER CENTS. Wednesday r6 f. a. Thursday 6G f. lia a. DEFERRED s'r.C/C. Wed liesditv. Thu rgday, Of the 22d March,1817.....84 f. 75 c... 841. 75 C. 22d Sept. 1817.....821. 75 c... 82f. 75c. 22d Nlarch 2 lB.lB... 80 1. 75 c... sof. 75 c. 224 Sept. 1818... 7i f. 75 c... 781. 75c. 22d Marc13,1319...76 f. 75 c... 76 f. 70 c• J fr PETERSBURG"!, APRIL 10 --Alt' or -General, the Count de Czernitschet has leceis.ed orders to travel along the Don, in Older' to arrange the execution of a plan of his hiperial iNiajesty establishing colonies of Cossacks. " VIENNA, APRIL 26.--According to the 0 " counts from Rio Janeiro, 'the Arch - duchess le°4. poldine was very far advanced in her pregtO ilc Y her accoirhernent was expected in March. " The Count de St. Len (Louis Buousporte). is expected this summer at Marienbad, near Eg ri "' to take the waters Madame Baccbiocbi , btt wife, and her daughters, have obtained peril lis# . sion to quit Trieste during the season - 01 the baths, -and to come to Baden, where jeroalß. Buonaparte has taken for them the house of C° u° Ossolenski. ti " The Grand Duke Michael is shortly exP ecte here to remain a fortnight. The numerous false reports that have b ee s spread respecting the alleged attempt to 1) 0 ' ; 9° the .Emperor of Austria, &c. are entirely til e suit of a system of fabrication which is not very actively carried on at Paris, but Whie 11 also extends to LondOn, where our Police '. discovered the secret cypher of those pers °P" who, by means' of the English Journals, °l.' respond with Buonaparte. Thus an advertisew elltf • relating in appearance to ordinary family ff 4ii:" being read by means of this secret cypher pr eset' lo a political meaning very remarkable." • (OFFICIAL.)—EVACUATION OF TALCAHVA IC°. (From the Santa Fe Gazette of Jan.,25.) Oa the 23d inst. his Majesty's frigate O rrie' ralda, corvette Presidentia, and brig Pezueta 511.. ctiored in the harbour of Callao, with the traps ; ports &aver, Candelaria, and Thomas, having board 700 men and 84 pieces of canyon of rious calibre, and a considerable quantity of °ill ; tary stores, all from Talcahuano; and a few (91 before,, the armed ship Cleopatra, and a bri ‘ f' with the ships Avian and illilagro, a l so a rriv; ° after having touched at Quilica to rece ive board the battalion of the grenadiers and G ll4s‘ sears of Arcguipa. --- EXTRACT OF A. PRIVATE: LETTER FROM CALCUII.4" DF,C. /8, 1818. an il " The scarcity of money still continues, greatly do tbe merchants feel it. Alereantile !Pe culations at'e at a stop ; our commerce and Pri fitt a trade is nearly done ; kinds of European 89 American produce is full 6 per cent. discount: porter is selling, the barrel of 18 gallon 9 °ler included, at one rupee and a halt; our 1 14 r 1 W , full of shipping„and few freighted, the CornelY lli4 ships taking the first produce. Cotton is se, o at a much better price than it has done faro, length of time. The quantity shipped from 13ein, gal for England, even before the late conquest t e t hree is filti of cot h e y ERSt the d ~~ere 11 Y thi into de em tere sl it h'a 3 '►dge 4n y s atm D E saile4 1l il)gl SR 4 1;1 I ‘41 4 Vihk, d ka ; , k kit *t trii ilttd a`r~-- (' t nilth biter) ihg a , Sr, lbe be en tl l p Sire , are 111 wade Quart tr ), ta m` k t il ed . LI, k ik ci e btii„ ttha 1 11 )41 ta i , %Li)