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the louse would not grant any indemnity or protHiott to those who retailed wines on their premises without a TEST AND CORPORATION ACTS. Lora JOHN HAY presented a petition from Edinburgh against the Test end Corporation Acts. Mr. INGLEBY promoted a petition to the saws abet from the inhabitants of Pinuiduy. TITHE COMMUTATION BILL. Lord PALMERSTON prmentod a petition from the Chancellor, &c. of lite University of Cambridge, on the subject of the Tithe Commutation BilL COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY. The CHANCELLOR of the 11/aCHEQUER moved the Osier of the Day Cr the Hones going into a Committee of Supply, and mid that he should not do so on an evening when an :mportant debars sou expected, but that the sum- of 100,0001. was immediately required for civil contingencies. The House then resolved itself into a Committee, and after a few words from Mr. Mums, the vote was agreed to, and the House returned. THE CORN LAWS. Oa the motion of Mr. C. GRAN the order of the jay for the House resolving itself into a Committee of the Whole House, to take into consideration the subject of the Corn Laws, was read and agreed to, and the House hiring accordingly resolved itself b into the said Committee, Mr. C. GRANT rose, and spoke to the following effect : Sir, in rising now, in discharge of my duty, to move the resolutions respecting the Corn Laws, of which I gave no tice on a former day, I feel it necessary, in the first place, to return my grateful thanks to the House for the indul gence it so kindly extended, in consenting to the post ponement to this day of those Resolutions, in consequence of my indisposition; and, at the same time, I assure the ,House that the sense of it can never be erased from my re 4ollection. In now rising to address the House, I feel I ishrdl have need again to solicit their indulgence while I enter upon a subject of such great importance—a question surrounded with fears partly just and partly exaggerated— a question surrounded, too, with errors and prejudices, founded upon fallacious and mistaken views of a practi cal measure. If called upon as lam to enter upon the _ _ great qiestion of the Corn Laws, I feel it to be still more incumbent on me to solicit the indulgence of the House ; Fortunately for me, however, and fortunately for the "House, I feel relieved in a great measure from the neeeasity for going into a long and minute detail ; for I cannot forget that but a very few months have elapsed since this subject was under the con Aeration of the House, introduced by Mr. Canning, whe r it underwent esoleinu and repeated discussion, and that the House had expreeseal upon it a grave and da , liberate pinion—at least upon the great and leading principle on le hiththey deemed it necessary forthwith to legislate upon .he Corn Laws-- that principle, which the House so adopted—that principle, which this House then sanctioned—that principle, which went to declare that the regulations respecting the trade is corn should no longer remain undefined and uncertain, but reduced to at defined, an ascertained, and a limited system of law. Towards the close of the last Session of Parlia ment, it was proposed by his Majesty's Government, in a Bill then introduced, to modify the Acts of 1815, and 1022, which was resister, upon the ground that the House ought not to lend its sanction to a measure amounting to completeprohibition of foreign importation. In consequence of that resistance that Bill was withdrawn. Nearer to the close of that Session, Mr. Canning declared it to be hi s i n , tention to introduee this year a Bill, founded en the same principle as that of the Bill which had just been thrown o it, but with such Modifications as altered circumstances srid other considerations were, in his mind, necessary to ensure its adoption by Parliament. What those modifica tions were to have been, it is impossible now to ascertain— but doubtless they related to some additional protection to be given to the home producer, while tkey at the same time bore steadily in view the interest of the consumer. I feel cow pelted to believe that such would have been the principle of those modifications, not because, abstractedly thinking, Mr. Canning would have felt that they were required in strict stashes, but that, as a practical Statesman, he was bound so look—and I tun sure he did look—at the practical re sult. He was bound to consider—and he did lam sure consider—that he was in fact arbitrating between two par ties—and that his principal object, us it was also his greatest difficulty—was to diacover and adopt that prin ciple beat calculated to satisfy both parties. I call upon the House to concur in that principle of Mr. Canning—l call upon every Hon. Gentleman who supported that priti iiiple on former oemaions—l call upon every friend of Mr. Calming, in this House; to consent to and concur in those podifieetiona, which, in t h e same spirit, lam about to hove the honour of submitting- to the House. In this state the queetion now stands. We are obout to take up that which was left by Mr. Canning—we arg about to open tr . ,: volume at the page which was doubled down by Mr. Canni:f. lam about to propose, and I trust this House to adopt., Mr. Canning's modifications of the existing Corn Laws, with sti . .ch additions as the pireumstances which ilave since arisen demand.—(Hear, hear.)—We find that the existing system of Corn Laws, founded on the Acts of 1815 and 1822, has failed, and failed too because of the va rious fluctuations to which it necessarily gave rise. We find the country agitated and harassed from one end to the other at the present moment upon that very account. Every year has seen some temporising ect introduced into this House. At one time the Warehoused Corn Bill was brought in—at another an Act was passed which armed Government with power to admit into home consumption 400,000 qrs. of foreign grain—another gave pertnissusa to grind the foreign corn theta in bond—and various other isicamelu ssive,measures were passed ; measures, the only effects of which were renewed discussions and agitation on this great question—the consequesuses of which were, to keep the gent interests of the country in a state of fever and alarm.--(Hear, hear.) All the ,treaties for sale and purchase of lands-aoall the transfers—all the eontracts be tween landlord and teennt, were, by these means, kept in a state of agitation and sapetnie.—(Hear.) I hope the House is prepared to terminaio this injurious state of things. It is, in my mind, the i . .! , tY of this House, for that purpose, and with that view, to ,lcclare either that the two Acts of 1815 and 1822, are to be orbeld and to constitute the future system for regulating the trade in corn, or agree to a measure for finally adjusting the question, and so terminate those uncertainties which agitate the country. s Influenced by these considerations, I feel it to be any duty to submit to this House the resolu tions, with the proposing of which I mean to conclude. If Moen could have formed an adequate excuse for still further poetponing the performance of that duty, I could have very truly pleaded, and availed myself of it, to avoid, at the present moment, occupying the attention of the House ; bet the irnportatusse of the subject—the state of the country --the welfare and the interests of the parties more isliately to be affected by it—all pressed upon me with so much force that I could no loner defer, even at some per- sorial iticonoeszience, the perfot mance of that which became an imperative duty. lii forming my determination to bring the subject immediately before this Hosase, I was sup ported by one consideration—l thought that if Mr. Canning, at the close of last Seseioo of Parliament, felt that boxy modification in the Bill of that year was necessary, be wou ld, had he heard and witneseol all that has since oc curs-ed bearing upon the question, have at once concurred i n my proposed Resolutions. On this suNaet o partial Bill was introduced into the other House of Parliament, a certain scale of duti es . D ur i ng t h e c ont e mplating debates on that ma ture, it was predi c t e d b y t h ose w h o opposed the Bill, that it would be productive o f ex t ens i ve injury to British a viculture, if Foreign Corn should b e p admitted into home ,ronsumtion even at h eavy d ut i es ; and by others, that the proposed scale of dutiea was so high, that under it no force' grain whatever could find its way into our market. The Basle predictions are now re peated, but I, for one, am disposed to place as little faith in the predictions of the present day . as I was in those of last year. I think that the ilepression which has taken Place in the price of British Corn since that peried, 'night be explained by other circumstances than those relied ott by one class of opponents of the measure. The quality , as well es the quantity, of our last year's harvest—the quality mad the quantity of that of foreto growth—ought to be tassidered. But what it becomes the duty of the Howie more particularly to see and consider is, the effect of those two facts inkroducing that result.— It cannot be denied (mid an insporteut f4ct it is) that a very considerable quantity of foreign grins?, at Wah duties, was admitted into home consumption, n , otwitustanding the predictions to which I have referred. It is a fact, under duties of 225. Bd. per quarter, and ott per quarter, in the months of July a nd August htst, no less a [quantity than ,500,000 quarters of foreign whe a t issued into the market ;at 'a period when it had been said that no foreign corn could Le entered. What use do I mak e of that fact Merely t o tell those who speculate, and who p re di ct, that this has occurred in opposition to the calculatio ns which they had made, founded upon the operations of the law that they then opposed. On this subject I retain my on i_ nions of last year. On the tote grounds that I aPProi:ed of the measure of last Session, 1 tsetst come forward to ad vocate its principle. It would be itodonbtedly very de lightful to carry at all times just principles ipo effect; but it is impossible to carry unbending maxims into eteeution 'without reference to demands of a oniplex anti artificial system when it shall be found to exist. The principles which I last year entertained on this question, and to the expression of which I then gave utterance, I atilt retain ; not because I think that the Bill of last year went as far as principle might lead it, but because it was a mea sure political expediency. In the sam e way I a d vo- Sh o e f oate the principles of the Resolutions I am about to pro pose.---1 feel that under these circumstances we are called upon to deal with this question, and I, looking to the practical result—the establishment of a sound system— feel that here, too, we must yield to political expediency. It is my desire, in the first instance, to repeal the Acts of 1815 and 1822 ; those him which, as I contend, are calculated to cherish much error and mischievous mis apprehension on the subject, which contributed to the creation of separate interests, and to found in their stead a system founded on sound principles. If we sanction this principle respecting the Corn Laws, we shall have made a great step; for I must confess that it is so important to obtain a declaration from this House, that it is satisfied in that principle, that I should consider such a declaration a step in advance. With respect to the Corn Bill of last year, the same thing happened that bad, in a former session, occurred to the Catholic Question, namely, that because one clause in the measure had been rejected in the House of Lords, the Bill was abandoned. In the policy and the propriety of that course I do not concur. I think, that if the Bill had come down to this House, even with the amendment, we should have made a step in advance towards amelioration. (Hear, hear, hear.) The objects of both Bills may be achieved iu two ways—one by the augmentation of the scale of duties contemplated in the Bill of last Session; the other, by collateral regulations. With respect to the first, the augmentation of duties which I propose will differ in some respects from the former. If (for illustration) you take 80s. as the duty when the price of corn shall have reached 544. per quarter, I propose to diminish it by one shilling for every advance of one shilling in price—that is, when the price shall be 555., the duty shall he29e.—.when the price shall be 565., to make the duty 28.. per quarter. So far the duties of last year and the scale I mean to propose, concur ; and it is my inten tion to move, that that scale shall continue in the same course until the price shall have advanced to 665. ; and then the duty shall be diminished by 2s. for every increase o f is. in price, until it reach about 69.. ; and then (and until the price shall reach 711 per quarter) to diminish the duty by Ss. per quarter. These are the two scales ; at the price of 575. per quarter they agree ; but as they pro ceed by different scales of reduction of duty, according as the price advances, a considerable difference occurs, and in this way : At from 58s. to 59.. (the Imperi a l Q uar t er ) I s. d. propose a duty of 2B 8 At from 59.. to 60. 27 8 60s. to 61. 26 8 t; Is. to 62s 25 8 625. to 63s 24 8 635. to 64. 645. to 65s . 22 8 655. to 66. 2l 8 665. to 67, At from 67.. to 68s. the increased scale of re duction will coinuteuee, namely, by 2.. so that the duty in that ease will be.. From 68s. to 69.. 18 8 16 8 From t.:9s. to 70s. (now dropping 3s. per guar.) 13 8 From 70s. to 7I s. (a difference of 49.).... ....... 10 8 71s. to 72s 6 8 725. to 738 ' • 2 8 735. to 74s 1 0 After which it is to cease altogether. So far with regard to duty on wheat. I now come to the other species of grain. Applications have been made to his Majesty's Go vernment respecting the duties on barley an 4 oats, com plaining of the present amount and calling for alteration; but on mature consideration, and particularly referring to what took place last session on the subject, it is not my intention to propose any alteration with regard to them. I said in the outset, that there was another mode be sides a scale of duties, by which the objects we have in view might be attained ; and I advert to that now, be cause I have received applications, that in my proposed measure should be included various regulations of quan tities imported of foreign wheat and other corn ; hut it appeared to his Majesty's Government, that it would be better at once to establish a scale of duties, than adopt any other mode. The measure of which I speak will, there fore, be the same as that of last session, with the exceptions to which I have referred—l mean the increased scale of duties respecting wheat. If it shall be asked whether, in this scale, the price chosen has been for any reason pecu liarly selected ? I must answer, as: Mr. canning answered a similar question last year—namely, that in a scale of fluctuating duties it is impossible to fix prices. No ab stract reason can be assigned why one price should be fixed more than another, Various circumstances must influence the result—the price of corn in foreign countries— - the rate of exchange and of freight—the state of our own currency—the quantity and the quality of the supply. It is quite impossible, therefore, by any rule of mathematical precision, to fix on any price in preference. My resolu tions may, in that' respect, be incomplete; but, such as they are, I recommend them to the Muse, as those which if passed into a law, would be most likely to bring the question to a satisfactory termination—if passed into a law, I anticipate, and I trust I shall not be disappointed, that it will prove a highly beneficial measure- for the country— that it will have the effect of removing a fluctuating and an injurious law, and of establishing a general, a perman e nt and a sound system in its pl ac e. The effect of the measure would be, moreover, to increase public confidence and good feeling—to give rise to more correct views—to dis abuse the public respecting the exaggerated reports now re ceived, and to allay those extravagant expectations which both parties found upon their respective theories.—(Hear.) In offering this measure, therefore, to the agricultural and lauded interests, I offer to them a resting place on a secure and firm basis—not one which, like a founda tion of sand, might he swept from beneath their feet. Of this House, I beg that the measure may be consi dered as one of arbitration. It may be imagined that it falls short of the Bill of last year—but it is as near it as possible—as near to it as it could be rendered under the altered circumstances of the two periods. With respect to myself, I may, perhaps, be permitted to say, that I would not introduce it were I not persuaded that it u ill prove be neficial' to the country. If Mr. Canning himself were to be placed in my situation, he would not have hesitated to recommend it to the House, because he himself founded his own measure upon the principle of a compromise —he in tended it as a peace offering—and a meant of reconciling contending interests.--(Hear, hear.)—On that ground aZone, I trust the House will adopt this measure, and in so doing adopt I.k f lr,, Canning's measure and his recommenda tion. I am quite awe, that every Hon. Gentleman who has anticipated my reference tp that splendid speech, in which he recommended the measure on which my proposed Bill is founded, will recall the conviction it impressed upon his mind,--(Cheers)—that splendid speech, in which were displayed that classic, temperate, and chastened eloquence, of which Mr, Capping was as great a master as he was of wit, fancy, and genius, in tl,lPir Most exquisite forms.— (Loud and continued cheers.)-1 am quite sure that the House will recollect the impression then made upon it by that splendid speech of him who was its ornament..L. the delight of those whom be led, and the admiration ewe:4 of those to whom it was his fortune to be opposed.— (Continued cheering.)—ln the expression of his admi ration, I feel cousuloos that I shall be supported, not only by the unanimous voice tit: every lion. Member in this House, but by every feeling and intelligent mind through out the empire, nay, throughout the world.—(Entliusiagie elre,ering.)—On these grounds, I trust, the House will concur in my resolution—and even if it shall be found de ficient in any of those qualities which recommended the former measure to their adoption, that they will attribute it not to any inherent fatilt of the measure itself, but im pute it to the littleness of the (.iyocate by whom it is brought forward.—(Cheers.)—The Right Hyn. Gentle man then proposed his resolution in the following terms " That it is the opinion of this Committee that any sort of corn, grain, meal, and flour, which may now by law be imported into the United Kingdom, shall he at all times ct,dmissible for home use upon payment of the duties follow ing, if imported from 'a foreign country, whenever the average price of wheat, made up and published in manner required by lay, shall lee."—,(llere the Chairman read the :wale above quoted.) Th 2 Resolution having beep read fFont the Mr. W. VVIIMIOR4 said it was not his intention to a trespass oil the attention of the Committ ee f or more th a n few moments, as a future and a fitter opportunity would offer fur the expression of his sentirneot s respecting Ore resolution just read ; but lie seized the earliest possible occasion to enter his protest against the measure of the Right Hon. Gerite.man, because if lie differed from the measure of last Session, thie was so much inferior to it--so contrary to all the purposes of ,eomniercia/ legislation, that he confessed he could not only not give it his support, but that it was also with a great degree of surpris e tt et b e had beard the speech of the Rit:la Pon. gentleman the president of the Board of Trade, Ills Right Hon. F r i en d had talked lunch of the advantage likely to accrue t o th e country by the establishment of a different principle from that WhiCt prevailed at present; but if the protecting duty to be applied amounted to absolute exclusion, it mattered very little to these who suffered by it, wile • ther that exclusion was produced by duty or by law. He trusted, therefore, that the Home and the country would not submit to the delusion contained in the Resolution of his Right Honourable Friend. if there were to be a complete exclusion' of foreign corn, he knew not what could be said respecting the difference of exclu. sion by duty or exclusion by law. He denied that this was a compromise between two parties in the country; it was only a compromise of the Cabinet.—(Hear, hear.) He felt quite confident that if that great man—the lament ed Mr. Canning —was now living, the changes that had occurred since the measure was last debated in that House would have no weight with him at all. The bonded corn that had accumulated between 1825 and 1828 on the duty of twelve shillings bad been so collected, under the impres sion that no higher duty world be imposed, and it would have been better for the importers of it to bring it into the market even at the duty of 1/. 2s. Bd. or 1/. 44. Bd., than leave it in their warehouses, or export it again. And on this grain he was authorised to say, that great losses had been suffered by the importers--in one ease alone, on three cargoes of wheat that had been imported from Odessa, the result was a loss on the whole of 2,000/. There was no reason to think that a great increase bad taken place in the quantity of foreign corn imported ; for though there was much foreign corn in bond last year, the quantity of wheat imported this year did not exceed 150,000 quarters. The result of the present measure would be to destroy the trade in foreign corn altogether, and thus deprive the country of a regular supply against a period of exigency. Sir THOMAS GOOCH—Nothing was, in his opinion, more injurious than the frequent tampering with the Corn Laws ; and he hoped the question would be permanently settled before the prorogation of Parliament. For his part, he was friendly to the existing law on the subject, tinder which he begged gentlemen to remember, that wheat was cheaper than it had been since the law of 1815. But as it was probable he should be beaten out of that existing law, the next to receive his support would be that proposed by the Right Hon. Gentleman that night. There was one fault, however, in the Right Lion. 'Gentleman's measure; it professed that the proposed mode of taking the averages would give the cultivator of wheat a remunerating price of 60s. ; that it may give him.that price occasionally be would not deny, but the question was; would it secure it to him ? He had himself sent some wheat to market last week, and though it purported to have been sold at 605., yet, after drawbacks and other charges, all he received out of it Was 56e.—(Question.)--He requested Hon. Members to listen to him a few moments, assuring them, that it gave him more pain to speak in that Mouse than it did to other Hon. Members to hold their tongues.--(Laughter.)—ln sup port of his opinion, lie would briefly read a document re-, ceived from persons interested in the subject. " From the principle of the Bill for regulating the Sale of Foreign Corn (proposed to Parliament in the last Session by 'Ministers), the premises may be justly assumed, that Go vernment considered a less average price than sixty shil lings for a quarter of wheat (Winchester measure) would not remunerate the grower thereof: it therefore becomes essential to the security of agriculturists to provide, that the averages should be so computed as to realise this in tention of Government. But if it can be proved that the averages are now- partly composed of profits irrelevant to the gains of the growers of corn, so as to render the aver age of sixty shillings not equivalent to fifty -eight shillings, a case will be established, demanding the prompt attention of those interested in the welfare of agriculture, to remedy this fallacious mode of reckoning the averages. " The truth of this case will appear by investigating the common process of traffic in corn. " Let us suppose, that a farmer should sell a quarter of wheat for fifty-six shillings to a merchant (A), who will return that price . to the inspector of corn-returns ; this fifty-six shillings is the whole amount received by the farmer. And suppose, that the merchant (A) should re-sell the same wheat for fifty-eight shillings (only a moderate advance to pay expences of warehouse, porterage, carriage, and profit) to another merchant (B), who in like manner will return the price of fifty-eight shillings. Arid again, suppose that the last merchant (B) should resell the same wheat for sixty shillings, (for, as before stated, he must require a remuneration of two shillings) to a third merchant (C), who also will return the price sixty shillings (sales of the same corn are frequently made more than thrice), the con sequence of the two last returns fifty-eight and sixty shil lings is to add Cs. to the averages ; for the first sum 56 shil hags is all that accrues to the grower; the second, fifty sight shillings, being two shillings more, and the third sixty shillings, being four shillings more than the original cost, make six shillings additional ; because each sum is separately returned, and forms a component part of the in tegral average. The two advances of two shillings and four shillings are for indemnities and profits to the mer chants, in which the grower does not participate ; never theless by the present unjust system of computation they calm a correspondent rise in the averages, thereby frustrat ing the intended protection to agriculturists. " It is worthy of remark, that such a specious protection to farmers, creates an unfair clamour among the commer cial and manufacturing classes of this country, who view with jealousy this amount of nominal security. " To remedy this evil, it is only requisite for the Corn Bill about to be laid before Parliament by the Ministers to limit the Returns of purchasers of corn and pulse, which shall hereafter be made, to the Inspectors of Corn Returns, to purchases made from the Growers only." In the opinion conveyed in that document, lie fully con. Curred. It was not fair to hold up the agriculturists as receiving greater prices than they actually did. As to the subject before the House, all he would say was, that be placed his entire confidence in the Noble Duke at the head of the Ministry. He was sure that his Grace never would take any step injurious to the Loaded interest ; nor was . _ there any Minister since Mr. Pitt, in whom he (Sir Thos. Gooch) had greater confidence.--(Cheering.) Mr. BENETT (when he became audible) was under stood to say, that he considered the landed interest enti tled to a protecting duty in consequence of the gi eat burden of taxation which they had to bear, and even to some thing more than protection, when it was remembered to what an amount of local rates they were subject. That was the principle on which he should proceed in relation to the Corn Question, and on that ground he thought the Right Hon. Gentleman's proposition a sound one. But he could not see why the duty should be increased to two shillings on the diminution of the price by one. He, however, hoped that no vote would be taken on the ques tion that night, in the absence of so many Members who were interested in it. That the British agriculturists required protection would appear from papers on the table, which showed that 700,000 quarters of wheat had been imported since July of last year, and were in the ware houses, anticipating a favourable sale in consequence of the change of the law. He could not agree with the Hon. Member for Bridgenorth that the proposed Bill would amount to a prohibition ; if that Hon. Member's plan were adopted, the country would go on importing foreign corn in increased quantities, until it should be obliged to depend entirely on foreign supplies. That the importation of foreign corn had already increased to a great degree would be proved by the fact, that the Government received 790,0004 in duty on foreign corn since last June—that was since the period after which it was held out, that no foreign corn would be imported. It was paid by a per son of high authority on the subject, that if this country should ever import 400,000 quarters of wheat, the decline of British agriculture may be dated from that period. Yet in the last 4ialf year 515,000 had been imported, and he was sure that the importation would, if allowed, soon increase from half a million to a million. To the proposed measure he was favourable through regard to the agricul tural interest ; but the class of agriculturists whose welfare he consulted, was the working labourers, the tillers of.thiv , land. The. positive sum paid to each workman for culti vating a luarter of wheat, was 20s. Now if foreign wheat were allowed to he itnported, at low prices, to the amount in quantity of a million of quarters, would not the result of such importation be the depriving British labourers of a great portion of their subsistence.. Mr. FERGUSSON agreed with Hon. Members in the opinion that the present was no time to discuss the sub jrpt at length. He could not, however, agree with the Hon. Member for Iridgpprth that the proposed measure would be injurious; nor with the Hon. Member for Suffolk in his predilection for the old law ; nor with the Hon. Member fur Montrose in the policy of a fixed duty ; nor did he think the proposed measure a compromise between the conflicting interests of the country. He was, however, of opinion on the whol e that th e G o v ernmen t oug ht t o have asided by the Bill they brought forward last year. it was also to be regretted that the Right Hon. Gentleman dtd not direct the averages to be taken in the three king doms, and that be had said nothing about the averages or of any difference to be made between imported corn and corn already in bond ; yet the wurehousing P:ystein was a subject worthy the most serious deliberation. But the point on which he particularly felt was whether or not there was any concession to be made, as in the Bill of l a st year, on the inferior grains, oats and barley. The interest of England, in relation to wheat, had been provided for in the Bill, but why were not the interests of Ireland and Scotland, which chiefly produced the inferior grains, at tended to in the resolutions of the Right Hon. Gentleman, If Rio regulation should be made by the Right Idon. Gen tl.man on this part of the subject, lie should feel himself bound to take the sense of the Mouse on it at a future op portunity, with a view to place the interests of Scotland and Ireland on the same favourable footing as those of the English agriculturists. Mr. ROBINSON,—As the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Grant) had used the tawne of Mr. Canning in his speech, he would remind that Right Hon. Gentleman and the House of the words used by Mr. Canning last March in winding up his admirable speech on the subject. They were these :—" That he did not mean to say that Bill would conciliate all interests ; it was impossible but that the balance should incline to one side, and as far as his Bill went, the balance had been given in favour of the landed interest." Now if the balance had been given in favour of the landed interest by the Bill *of last year, why should the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Grant) now propose a Bill still more favourable to that interest? What then did that circumstance prove, but that the Government was not able to carry in that House any measure favourable to the con sumer of corn against the wishes of the landed interest.-- (Cheering. ) The Hon. Member for Suffolk had said that the landed interest was hardly dealt with, in the fact that, in taking the averages, the re-sales were taken into calcula tion, the ultimate average being taken according to the highest and best market price at which the corn was sold; but the Hon. Member had forgotten that in many cases the person who bought the wheat at the last or highest price, was obliged to sell it again at a loss of 21. a quarter. He was bound as the representative of a manufacturing popula tion to say, that he could never recognise the principle that the landed interest had a right to assume they were enti tled to a fixed protection for their interests above those of other classes of subjects. Lord MORPETH had expected that, if any deviations should be made from the last year's Bill, the effect of such alterations would be a diminution of the price not an increase, the making bread cheaper not dearer. Reside the Government had said, that the Bill of last year had been framed on a calculation of the averages--if that was the fact, surely on that principle, as the price of wheat was under sixty shillings since last Spring, the prices in the proposed Bill ought to be lower than they were then fixed ; or were the people to be told that though Providence had been favourable to them in the more abundant produce of the seasons, yet it was possible that Corn may be too cheap for the people.—(Loud cheering.)-11r. Canning, in his speech of last year, had held out the prospect of an ulterior modification of his measure, but that modification he promised should incline in favour of the consumer—was that promise observed in the Bill of that night ? Certainly not. But there was a great discrepancy between Mr. Canning 's language on the subject, and his subsequent conduct, fur he gave up the principle of his Bill after he expressed a hope that that House would not lay itself pros trate at the feet of the other House of Parliament— (Cheering)—a sentiment worthy of him, not merely as a patriotic Minister of the Crown, but as an independent Member of that House. He should conclude by sup porting such an arrangement as should at the same time secure protection to the landed interest, and consist with the welfare of all the other classes. Sir THOMAS LETHBRIDGE would not admit that the temporary measure introduced last July, by Mr. Can ning, had a favourable effect on the British agricultural in terest. That it was net so beneficial would appear from the fact, that the average price of wheat in July last was 61s. ; yet the price in February last was only 525., a fall of 10s. a quarter since July; and that though bonded corn was admitted to the market on a duty of 1/. 2s. Bd. at the lowest, or 11. 18s. at the highest, yet, under these duties, between five and six hundred thousand quarters of wheat had been put into bond. Surely such a price for wheat could not be said to be favourable to the British agricul turists ; nor would he agree in the assertion, that any mea sure for the benefit of the landed interest was sure to meet encouragement in that House ;, though he hoped better times were coining, an event which he was sure must ul timately take place, when the House remembered that corn was cheapest when the landed interest was best protected. He was convinced that the only thing wanted to make the present measure perfect was some alteration of the ware house system, and of the manner of taking the averages, and the 'Placing some bounty or drawback on the exporta tion of corn, points to which he should call the attention of the House on a future occasion. The admission of 260,000 quarters of wheat last year would show that the home interest required some further protection. The present measure, though not entirely satisfactory to him, he however considered better than that of last year. Colonel SIBTHORPE contended that some protecting measure for the British agriculturist was rendered indispen sable by the facts reported in the returns which he held in his hand, and which he had received from excellent autho rity. In that return it appeared that large quantities of foreign corn had been imported into Ireland and the Isle of Man, and re-imported back again into England. The quantity imported from Ireland, from January to March of the present year, was no less than 164,1338 quarters.— The amount imported into the post of London alone, from Ireland, between the 10th and the 15th of March this year was 54,383 quarters ; and the consequence of this influx was, that the home corn could find no market. There was at this moment iu bond 136,000 quarters of wheat; 11,000 of oats; 57,000 of barley, and 32,100 hundred weights of flour; and the suns of duty on . corn for the year ending January 1828, was no less than 750,0001. Surely these facts fully proved the necessity of protection for our own agriculturists. Mr. HUSIZISSON, though he could not agree with Hon. Members in the novel proposal to abstain entirely from all discussion on a subject on the consideration of which great interests were at stake, yet should forbear en tering into a very wide field of discussion, while he uttered a few observations on the opinions of those Hon. Members who professed to make no observationsat all on the subject. (Laughter.) Surely the Hon. Member for Lincoln must labour under some strange delusion when he could assert, that a great quantity of corn had been smuggled into Ire land, and re-imported thence into England. The fact was, that no foreign corn came into England in the course of last year, but what was imported openly anti on payment of the regular duty, and the reason why it was imported in such quantities was, because it was wanted ; and for the present year he was able to state to the House that no grain was imported in the manner described from foreign coun tries through Ireland. Indeed, it was absurd to believe for a moment, that there - could be any smuggling carried on to such extent in such an article as corn. (Cheering.) As to the of 1826 it was not only justified, but demanded by the preceding circumstances, and as to the result of it on home corn, though 300,000 quarters of foreign corn were imported in the November of that year, yet the price of British corn remained as high as under the , law of 1815. As to' the total sum of duties paid oa im ported corn in last year, the Hoh. Member who stated it forgot that duty was paid on other articles than foreign corn, for instance, on Canada corn ss. a quarter. The Hon. Member for Somersetahire had laid much stress on the alleged fact, that in certain weeks during which the homy price of wheat was 515., foreign corn was imported even under a duty of V. 2s. Bd. Now, what was the fact —why, that in these weeks no foreign corn was imported at all, the returns in the books being, fur the weeks alluded to, nil, nil, nil. (Much cheering.) In truth the Hon. Mem ber carried his fears of a foreign invasion of corn to greater extremes than circumstances at all justified. The came Hon. Member had attempted to draw conclusions from the fact, that the average price of wheat in July was 615., yet in February but 525. ; but surely that contrast was not a fair one, when it was remembered that an abundant har vest intervened between the two periods, and that a de pression of price of the harvest was one of the natural changes to be expected under a system of monopoly like ours. But if the Hon. Member wished to obtain a just view of the comparative prices of two periods, the right method would be to take the corresponding periods in two successive years, and compare the prices, and on this prin ciple he was sure that when next July would have come, the price of corn would be high. Thos, aLso, the Hon. Member fin. Kircudbright (Mr. Ferguson) is very much alarmed on account of his countrymen (and I believe no man in this House entertains a more sincere and zealous affection for the interests (4 Scotland), under the impres sion that the proposition of my Right Hen. Friend alto gether overlooks their interest in barley and oats. But does the Honourable Gentleman forget that in the course of last year the scale of protection as to barley and oats, considering their relative proportion to the price of, and duty upon wheat, was considerably augmented ?- -that the rate as to oats was front 21s. to 255., and us to barley, from 30s. to 335. This rate, in reference to oats and barley, was much higher than that upon wheat at6os. I have taken the trouble to look to all the returns that have been made upon occasions when we have opened the ports under an Act of Parliament or an Order of Council, and from these I find that at no time had the price of oats risen so high as 255., although 255. was made the pivot, upon the turn of which the law admitted oats to be inr ported. My Hon. Friend opposite seems to think that there is no difference between the scale now proposed by try Right Hon. Friend near me, and the effect of an amendment which was moved upon the law of last year, by the Hon. Member for Dorsetshire. There is no diffe rence in one respect undoubtedly. The lion. Member for Dorsetshire's amendment was this—he proposed to raise the pivot price from 60s. to 6-is., lint he adhered to the scale of ascending and descending duties. The difference in favour of oats and barley, in the case put by the lion. Member for Kircudbright, with reference to wheat, and their relative pricem,would he as 325. instead of 265. to 605., and upon a descending scale, the difference would be still greater. I really do wish, and would ask of my Hon. Friend the Member for Bridgenorth, and of other Hon. Gentlemen who have called on us to-night, to abstain from all discussion, that they would, at least in the first place, withdraw their opposition to-night to the resolution of my Bight Hon. Friend.—(Hear, hear.)—They are anxious to persuade the House to adopt resolutions in lieu of it, differently framed, and having a different object ; but I do think that, in fairness to this House, in fairness to 4sy Right Hon. Friend, wh o h as b roug h t f orwar d this a sure, in fairness to his Majesty's Government, and in fair ness to the country at large, Gentlemen who have such Resolutions to propose, ought to produce them on the present occasion, and not allow the Resolution of my Right Hon. Friend to go forth to the country, these suggestions of theirs remaining on your table. I cannot imagine any thing more unfair than for an Honourable Gentleman, on such an occasion as this, to lay upon your table his own resolutions under such circumstances, protesting against their present discussion.—(Hear, bear.)—Let us, I say, have either a statement or an argument ; let us not be left to intuition, or to what other means we can resort to, to guess at the meaning and intention of those Gentle men, who will not themselves explain them to us. My Hon. Friend has very briefly proposed to adopt such a course, desisting at the same time from entering into any statement of his reasons. lam not very much sur prised at this, for when lie tells us that my Right Hon. Friend had propounded the Resolutions of last year ,in the same terms—if this had been a re-statement of them ipsissimis cerbis, he would have been equally opposed to it—it is plain that the Hon. Gentleman must object to the whole principle of the measure. Hereia consists much of our difficulty, for I think it was his main objection to this resolution, that it is a very complex one. For my own part, I cannot see in what degree, as to the scale of ascending and descending duties, it differs from the law of last year. Last year you proposed a specific duty of 205., varying with the ;price of corn, until it at last vanished into an almost imperceptible impost, as that price rose in amount; and which, on the other hand, as the price de scended rose to a point which was considered to be suffi ciently high to prevent the importation of foreign corn. Now the present proposition takes two grounds', upon which the scale of last year is a little extended, namely, it provides that at '7os. foreign corn shall come in at little more than a mere nominal duty ; but again, that if the price fall to 605., the duty shall be such as was proposed in the law of last year, as shall either altogether prevent, or considerably impede, the importation of foreign corn. It differs from the law of last year as to the pivot point, as it has been called, on which foreign corn shall come into our markets—not abuudantly—not without some limita tions—not in a manner to inconvenience the British farmer. 1 am perfectly free to state that 60s. was the price at which it was then proposed to give protection to the home grower as far as might be possible, and that a point between 60s. and 655. is the one How assumed at which it may so come in—care being taken, that as the duty diminishes, the im portation shall take place sparingly, and in a stinted degree. Now, in what respect does this proposition differ from that of last year? It is to be remembered that the latter mite into operation after a great change had been effected in the general commercial system of the country, and while all classes were still labouring under the effects of that change. It was said, that on rec, nsidering the subject, in a future Session of Parliament, we were to profit by experience, and that exeerience has guided the framing of the very Bill which is the subject of discussion this evening. 1 agree with my . Right Hun. Friend that the value of that experience has been rated more highly than it merited; but it is certainly ,impossible to deny the fact, that a quantity of foreign corn, not less than 500,000 quarters, was imported, and very rapidly too, at a price upon which the duty exceeded 20s. Here, therefore, is a prima facie case, to shew that a 20s. duty would not effect that purpose, which was the avowed object of the Bill of last year, namely, to prevent the simultaneous admission of large quantities of foreign grain into our ports.—(Hear.)—An attempt has therefore now been- made not to depart from the principle of the measure of last year, but, without ex citing apprehensions and alarms, or creating serious incon venience to the community, to increase the amount of price at which such corn shall be in future admissible ; and this point has accordingly been raised to between 60s. and 644. I say again, that in this there is no change of principle ; for, from adhering to that principle, unless very peculiar combinations of circumstances should arise, I am confident no practical inconvenience would accrue; but the present attempt has been made with a view of combining the pro tection afforded by the scale of the last year, a little raised as to the price of the grain, with the advantages which we must secure to the country, in respect of the power to im port foreign corn. I would add, that I believe many causes did operate last year to produce an excessive importation, in a very short period of time, which are not likely to ope rate again. Here was this Act passed in November, 1826, which gave the power of admitting any quantity of foreign wheat at a duty of 265. per quarter. Why, Sir, it cannot be denied that there was a much larger importation of fo reign corn in consequence, than would otherwise have taken place. It is equally undeniable, that had,a Bill t o the effect of the present resolution been then in operation, it would have prevented many of the inconveniences which at that time accrued from the state of the law. We all know that that Bill passed through this House, but was met else n here by some proposals which caused it to be abandoned. —(Hear, given a longer time thin they forr imp r ession produced country. on the market by these causes. We find that the conse quenceNo was, that the price after the harvest still tend e d to would have had in which to convert their stock of corn r t . r ) a — L Tl bear.)—The werere result in li the lt of this was, that parties con cernedinto money. Of this circumstance they naturally took the advantage. Again, in the August following, we were blessed with the prospect of an abundant harvest, and then, again, in the course of a very few weeks, further quantities of , f v or le evignmultecaotuswi consider what e rapidly tugs sh i ppedtl eim pes produce large importations. My Hon. Friend h as we ll and truly said, that we are to deal with this questi on as a question of fact, and like practical men, and in order to settle in what mode, and upon what principles, the law which shall regulate a trade of such vital importance to the country shall in future be established and governed. If we see what is the impression•produced on the public mind out of doors, we must not overlook that impression in determining and applying the principles of such a measure. The principle upon which we are now to legis late, I am not afraid to say, I take to be that which my Right Hon. Friend has laid down, namely, something like an award between the exaggerated hopes of one part of the community, and the groundless apprehensions of another. I consider that we ought not to hesitate to give our support to a measure calculated to produce such good effects; I think it would tend to produce the settlement of a long litigated question, which has already produced this evil effect—that one class of the people has unhappily conceived the notisn that its feelings and interests upon this subject have been sacrificed to those of another class. (Hear, hear.)—The view of this House ought to be to do impartial and effectual justice between all claws of the people.--(Cheers.)—Sir, it is upon these grounds that the present motion has been brought forward. I never cm agree that it is the best possible one which could be brought under the notice of the House; but in reference to my view of the state of this question—to the state of . the agricultural interest—to the state of our curre n cy . and to the state of public feeling among different portions of the people —I am most desirous that it should pass into a law, persuaded that if it do, it will be well calculated to all a y the angry impressions to which I have adverted , as perv a - I ding many of them. One word more, Sir , in respect to the thethe misery prejudice sustained by capital embarked in agriculture and land ; which that law of 1815 has, in the c ourse o f t h e declaration of the Hon. Member for Somersetshire, (Sir T. Lethbridge) that he adheres to the la w of 1815, because of the very great encouragement which h e conceives that it extended to the agriculturists.. But I , Si r , do lament from occasionedthe bottom by y f t m h e y fl s ti o c u t i u ' a t t h i e on ev c i d is Pr t i l e 'e es i , g a ss n ee d ' and consequent last twelye years, occasioned throughout this kingdom.— (Hear, hear. )—.I am ready to acknowledge an y error w hi ch experience may have shown me that I committ e d i n t h e course I took with regard to that Bill.—(Cheers.)—But a m satisfied that I could make it appear, whenever a fit.. ting opportunity may offer, that it has produced these losses, that it has caused these fluctuations, and instead of benefitting the landed interest to the extent which the Hon. Baronet supposes, it has in that interval caused the prices of produce to be lower than they would have been, had a corn trade almost free and unfettered subsisted in the mean time.—(Hear.)—l shall not go into the argument of the Hon. Member for Suffolk, who has endeavoured to show that the law of last year has effected such grievous injuries. Ile complains of the mode in which the averages have been taken ; and so does the Hon. Member for Kirkcudbright. Now, at least, they have been taken precisely as they were taken before the passing of that law ; and _without pausing to defend the principle of averages generally, we must, fin- the present purposes take them into the account; we must take similar qUanti. - ties in attempting to arrive at general conclusions of th is a awe. The objection of my Hon. Friend, however, ie very curious ; h e com pl a i ns t h a t lie sent a quantity cornof last week up t o L on d on , w hi c h h e so ld a t a wat a price h no higher than 60s. See, sa id m y H on . Frien d, horrible effect your a verages p ro d uce . Why, Si the average price, you will find, upon reference to the Gazette ' of last week, was 525., and toy Hon. Friend sells his that from this corn at 60s. (Hear, hear.) It is true , price o f t he llowances in shape of brokerage or commission, o f some sort or other, which, I presume, every man mus t expect to pay to the individuals who dispose of his property to his advantage. Still it is perfectly clear that my Hon. Friend must have obtained a price considerably above t 1 e average. Now, really I must think, that at least this system of averages works well, when he disposes of Isis wheat in the market at eight shillings per quarter above the - peke at whisk average rate is putted. (A laugh.) I very. beartg/ congratulate him on the fact. lam glad he can brig " the market an article so good as to secure such a price; and I sincerely wish that my Won. Friend may never bs reduced to dispose of his agricultural produce to great disadvantage. (Hear, hear.) Colonel SIBTHORPE observed, that what the Welt Hon. Gentleman had stated in respect of oats supplied o° true criterion to guide the judgment of the Committee. — The year in which the importations took place, was otter in some parts of this country, of absolute drought, i n , which the scarcity of hay was most remarkable. - He hag himself given as much as ten guineas per load ; and the consequence of that scarcity was, that oats were last year employed by the farmers in the county, for example, with which he was more immediately connected, as food, for al most every kind of domestic animal. Sir T. LETHBRIDGE, in explanation, observed that the quantity of foreign wheat which he had adverted to as having been thrown into the market under a high duty was 8,700 quarters, nn the 15tEr November, which paid a dus of 21. Os. Bd. a quarter. The larger quantity of cora taken out of bond on the 27th of December last, paid a duty of 1/. 4s. ed. ; the second quantity of li. es. Bd. ; but these 8,700 quarters paid a duty of 2/. Os. Bd. Mr. FERGUSSON, in explanation, had understood the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Grant) to intimate that no thing more would be done in respect of oats than was al ready done by the law passed in the last Session. Mr. A. BARING thought that the complaint, of the Right lion Gentleman who had lately spoken, as to the conduct pursued by some Members in that Committee, were rather unreasonable. The Right Hon Gentleman should consider that these Resolutions had been the subject for many days past of anxious consultation with the public. —(Hear, hear.)—For his own part he should have been much surprised if the Committee had not looked a little more nearly than was usual on the occasion of reading such propositions from the Chair, in order to see how they bore upon this most important question. Although the principle of the Resolution might be the same, the altera tion made in it from the law of last year was considerable, particularly as to the advance in the scale of prices. It was certainly impossible for any body to have opened the quells thin with more candour than the Right Honourable Gen tleman : but it was apparent from the manner of that state ment, that before it was submitted to the Committee a hard battle had been fought to reconcile the conflict- Mg prinsiplee of this and of the former measure. His Right Honourable Friend who spoke last (Mr. Hus kisson) had, with somewhat less of candour, de fended this proposal, by reflecting on the manufacturing in terest upon the one hand, and upon the agricultural inte rest on the other; and he had concluded by telling the Committee that the measure, such as it was, had not his entire approbation. As for himself, he (Mr. Baring) would acknowledge to the Right Hon. Gentleman that his case was very like that of a person who was only trans ported, after expecting to •be hanged. Various rumours, of an alarming nature, were afloat out of doors, as to the character of the measure now brought forward ; and he was very glad that it was no worse than it really appeared to be. He had anticipated some system like that of a re munerating price—that old proposition which the Hon. Baronet (Sir Thomas Lethbridge) had declared he would always defend in that House as being so well adapted to protect the agricultural interest. He should for one de precate the discussion of a principle which could not confer one iota of prot ec ti on i n rea li ty, b ut wh i ch, if persevered in, might on e d a y p ro d uce a f aya i ne—(hear)--owing to the absurd prejudice of the agriculturists against permitting the establishment of what might be considered a perma nent depot for the supply of grain at a distance of 1,000 or 1,500 miles from their own market. When he saw attempts making from day to day to impose restraints upon the supply ofcorn for a population so vast and so increasing as the population of these kingdoms--the necessity of which supply was evident from this, that year atter year %ye had been blest with abundant harvests, yet were still, year after year, importing foreign corn—he was astonished at such propositions being persisted in. Looking at that population, to the numbers and the condition of the labour ing classes, could auy man of common sense, or of common humanity, be jealous--of what ? Of permitting a depot, such as he spoke of, to exist in his neighbourhood, for the supply of all these people with corn. Whenever the Hon. Baronet might execute his threat of bringing the subject before the House, there could be no dif f iculty in meeting him upon it; nut even now, after the last lucubration, of that extraordinary theorist and crotchet-monger, who was always so ready to sacrifice all other considerations to souse favourite abstract principl e , and into whose clutehes ,/se (Mr. Baring) was so sorry to perceive that his Right on. Friend was once more about to fall,,—(Hear.) — What was the present state of this country . ? • Those who knew the condition of the manufacturing districts would not contradict him when he asserted that in all the general branches of manufacture there was, perhaps, sufficient work for the labourers in such branches; but the wage. paid them for such work they could but just manage to exist on. The working part of that community, therefore, being in this situation, the masters were enabled to carry on their business to an extent barely sufficient to make some small returns upon their capital. In the meantime" these poor people were in this condition; they were under the necessity, under such circumstance', of paying 525. for their wheat. Who could say what might be the conse quence of getting this already enormous price up, by pos sibility, to 645. ? The gentlemen belonging to the agri cultural interest, for many of whom he entertained a most sincere respect, should remember that the only effect of realising their extravagant expectations would be to pull that blouse down about their own ears.—(Hear, hear.) Was it not obvious that this was not a question of the ma nufacturing interest, or of any other insolated interest.! When his Hon. Friend (the Member for Suffolk), drove w Tw i h t e h irceh s t arvingtwashe Legislature fsnliar his team into Ipswich , what good w ou ld t h e high prices liatmtuer of farmers protection, and could not go in A nei g ag was it o r _ obtained for his corn produce to him, if he drove through a mar kete called,a , beyond hear.) h thronged question of this kind ; and any man who, under the cir cumstances of this country, could bri ng hi mself to advise such a step, must have l os t not only all feeling and princi ple, but all common sens e . H e was ready to go as far as a ny man in p rov idi ng f or t h e agricultural interests, and in maintaining th e m in th a t competency, and condition, and r prosperity, the maintenance of which was so essential, not only to the good order, but to the morals of the community at large; but 1;e never would encourage the vain and unwar rantable expectation that they should be kept op at the expense and by the injury of all ether classes. He cona fessed that., bad as the old law was, he had great doubts whether it Was not much better than this now proposed, or than that law which the lion. Baronet thought would have procured the farmer better prices. Any thing was better than a state of law which, professing to impose duties which should force high prices, had had the effect always of producing low prices. And why? Because as long as it existed, Government had found itself from time to time under the necessity of permitting import's. tions of large quantities of foreign corn. Quarters. Last year there were imported of Foreign Corn 2,600,000 The year before that 2,250,000 The year before that 1,000,00 U Since this Corn Law had been resorted to, the Minis ter, at the end of every Session, if the weather has hap pened to be a little too dry or a little too wet, or prices a little too low or a little too high, has not dared to trust the chances of the season, but has very properly thought it necessary to let in the foreign corn. Alany more mischiefs had ensued to the agriculturists than they could possibl y h are exper i en c e d under a well regulate Corn Bill. Th e l aw, as it now stood, w as a despotic law. 'llverytil they reac h ed a point at limitations it a ss i gne d h a d t h e e i in e r c e t sp o er fo o n f .ing grain. p prier s gr „i n became immediately ad m i ss ibl e. Il e should say, that any price exceeding 60 3. would be an in which foreign dication of incipient distress. The moment the price got beyond 60s the duty ought to decli ne rap i dly. If at 60s. thought that it MO a scale whiedi ought n o l onger to there was duty of 2 4 5. and at 6 11. a duty of 23.. he ; con tinue. His own impression was, that if the price were to rise beyond 60s. there would be that degree o f a l arm i n t h e coun try which would be p ro d uct i ve of the most serious conse quences. He co u ld not say, therefore, that be much , ro ved of the mea sure now proposed, or that he consi dereda it preferable to the old law. 11Ir. Secretary PEEL--Sir, I vote for this measure simply because I think that, profiting by the experience of the last few month., this Bill sugge s t, an equitable adjust ment of the -re s p ec ti ve c l a i ms of the producer and the consumer.—(Hear, hear.)—This House, in the last Session of Parliament passed a measure which was in effect pre cisely the same as that of my Bight Hon. Friend ; but which imposed a auty on corn of 20r. the quarter when ever the average price should appear to be 60s. It is im possible to lose sight tattle fact it prohibited corn from being taken out of bond, such as had been already warehoused, until the average price should have reached 601. I allude to this fact only for the purpose of sheaving, not that I am apprehensive of its consequences, but in ord e r to s l e w that such a difficulty did exist, a n d d oes now exist. (elf this I am quite satistied,that if thelastGovernment had thought that Ulf modification of the measure which they introduced would have secured the acquiescenc e of the other house of Par liament, my late Right Lion, Friend, now no more, would have immediately consented to it. Ido happ e n to know that ii eon Hun. were founds Sir reign portati freight would quotat Noven ported on rue: re►uuni but, S aro out of fore but as give table tc Mr. thisaj approln what it the just of the Hight