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IM.PERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORD :-+, Ftunivt, piny 31. ' 4 The tionsemet at. ten o'clock in the morning,, and proceeded its Appeals. The tt(lyal Assent was notified by Commissioo to the Soap Ha, the Local Militia l'ay and 'lnth 7 Bill, the NI,It and I3eer Duties Allowances Bill, the Sr. Pancras Church Bill, several local and private Bills. The Commissioners ,were the Lord Chancellor, the Earl of Shaftesbury, and Lord Viscount The Irish. Duties 13111, the Wisfol Gaol Bill, the Dunleary Harbour Bill, some local and private . Bills, were brot.ght up trout the lionSe.of Osm ium's by Sir .lame:: Graham, Mr. Mackborn, Aft !viral Frank, and other lesishers, and read a first Respecting Dyint's Divorce 1311, , further evi dence was examined, and Mr.3ackson %'H heard on the part of Mrs. Dvott The tokher considera• tion was postponed till Friday next, after some observationi from the Lord Chancellor On the pe- Wotr circumstances of this case. The third reading of the Coroners! Bill was, on the motion `of the Mortinis of BucitiNonam, post poned (or six monthii ; his Lordsliip observing that the House wonht understand:the reasons (err this motion, amendments having been made in the money clauses. The Earl of SHAPTgSBURY, by command of the Prince Regent, laidurnthe table an account of the Droits of Admiralty, which was ordered to be printed, Lord Viscount FALISIOUT Fl presented a Petition from the Publicanrof Penzance, against tire last additional Duties on Licences.---Ordered to lie on the 'Fable, • The Amendments made in the County. Rates' (by a 1)1 vat C CoMmittee) were, on the motion or t l ie Earl of SHAFTESBURY, agreed to.—Adjourned till Thurbday. HOUSE 01" COMMONS. The House wetc summoned to the House of Piers; to. hear the Royal assent given to several public and private Bills, for which, see the Lords. - A Petition Was presented from the Lieenced Distillers of the town of Belfast, praying for re-_ ' iri,f.—Ordered to lie on the table.. A New -Writ was ordered to be issued for the Elect 101 l of a Menthe' in 'the room of Lord Bin thing. who has accepted the situation of one (lithe Commissioners of East India Affairs., , 41r.illoaNna brought in .the Irish Grand, Jury . Bill. It Was read a first time, anti .ordered for a second reading on Thursday next. Mr. H. ADDINoTort brought ,up the Replort of the Committee, to ingnire into the Salaries and Fees . Ut Officers of Courts of - Law in Scotland,— Laid'otl‘the •INI . 11. An:DING-m:4 gave notice, that on Thurs dav next, he ...ninthd move for leave to bring in a 'MO to'aumnd ;lie L,iws. • Mr. A. Trtt,ort brought in a Bill' for borer Paving the Streets,of the Metropolis, and stated. that out of the 70 parishes in the Nleiropolts, there was scarcely one dissentient soiee rt;,pect. ing the uteri's of the measure.—Read a first tinic-, anti Ordered for tt. second reading on Thursday next. Mr. LITTLETON postponed his motion respect ing :Lotteriegi, to the 12th of Joie:, `1 he Report of .the Local Poors' Bill was re crived, and the ;Bill ordered to "be- read a third time on . ThnrXday next. Thellonse went into a Committee on the Ame rican., Convention Act ; and leave WeiS yen to bring in a Bill to amend the said A,(q. The•Mantire Carrial4e IBila went through a Com inittve..—ltcport on Th9rsday next.. STA'r E LAWS. The Report of the Conference with the.LordB %Vas taken into . Considervion. After some-con versation between Mr. R. Bathurst,: who'-moved that tlhe Howse agree with the Lords, Mr. Aber crombie, -Mr. Mai. Wynne, Mr. Bootle braham, Mr. :Rose,- and. Sir 3. N , wport, the re., Solution WKS Ihtta rtnietttlecl, ‘C That it is highly eitpetlient to adopt effectual measures to arrange time tnattcrs contained in the Statute !Jaws of Great liritain anti Ireland, and 'those passed by the respective Parliaments of Scotland'and IreM land, before their union with Great Britain." Mr. BANTUS then moved, that the:debate be adjourned till Monday sennight..-.Agreed to. ADJOURNMENT OF nig HOUSE Lord CASTLER FAO moved, that the' House, at its rising, sirould adjourn till Thursday flext. ill r. Ttatmelt wished to know why the House should:torrurn over one duy more than stoat'? Lord CASTLE RRAGII 'said, that be had looked over the honks, and . finding nothing of import ance fixed tor Wednesday, had thought there would t,t no objection to pass it over. Sir J. Naivroirr moved that the house adjourn till Wednesday. Ott tie Svitimen aching who seconded the too (ion, the Hon. Baronet stood alone. The origi nal motion was then carried without a division. MLEEN BILL. Lord CASTLEREAGH movvd that the Adjourned Debate on the Oita reading of the Alien Bill be reonned.--A greed to. Lord M ;LT olf once more objected to the mea sure; he stated, that an Alien woman being mar ried tri a natural born subject, Would be exposed to the operation of the Bill. He therefore propos ed a clanv.e to prevent a woman married to a na ture! born subject, from being sent out of the kingdom. Lord' CASTLEREAGH salt!, that there was !no probability the measure would be carried into eiecutiou against Ladies, and that the clause was therefore unnecesary. Lord FOLSISTONE was sorry to see that the 'Noble Lord would not admit the least softening a the 13111, but would have the measure in all its 11-ugh:less and seventy, or nothing at all. It was said, tint it would he_ executed under the respon sibility of Ministers ; but in this case tbey.bad no respontibility. They were not obliged to give an tico onot even. of the reasons fur which they hail sent Aliens out ot ,the. kingdom. He .objected also to the Bill on account of its in:policy. lie alinded to the 7th , of Queen Anne for naturalizing Trotcstant Aliens, to sheW the feelings entertain ed by nor ancestors respecting Al ens, in the bet ter titnesof our Coustitun ion. Such policy brought talent, A nd virtue into this country. How different was that now adopted. Evevy,thing he had in thii country haul been acquired 'by the pro tection and hospitality .which Eagiand had ex;- tended to Aliens %rhea she was the champion of the protestant taith ;And of the rights of all nations in Europe. But she l in t 1141tV re-established the Pope and the House ot Bourbon, the greatcSi enemy to 1 . 140 y, amt at this very thne the prow color ut Protestants. He then took a general vietv of :the probable effects of the Bill and the arguments urged in its favour, which he combat et!. He contended that the prerogative of send iog-aliens out of-the cumin y did not really, exist, in the quarter where .it had been mentioned to re-, side. The House tvere in fact legislating for the French Go:eminent and not for Great Britain. Sir S. lio:utt,Lv said, that the Bill invested' Ministers with the power of sending out of the couthry any alien %roman married to a natural Mien subject, and Mother of natural horn subjects. He conceived the reasons urged by the Noble Loud against the clause now proposed, both lily°. Nits and unfounded. He had seen that Ministers had exercised the power given by this Au , . impro perly. it was now known that they 4(1 sent away aliens at the' mere suggestion of a . Foreign . Minister, and therefore he could not consent to oral theill a second time with ant !unit y winch they ,had already it bfised. -The Ilduse then diiided--- Far the clause Against it. 1) 1. Majority apinst it —GO On being re-admitted we found Mr. J. P. GRANT proposing a. clause to deprive Ministers of the power ut transporting. an_ alien bark within the very jaws of the persecution from Which lie perhaps had fled. •He then moved, that after the words " nut of the United I'l:n4u:dont" these words be added "to such port; or place as the said alien may. elect, ' provided be or sue can make it appear that within a reasonable time a passage may he procured tor hint or her to such pmr or piace." Lord CASTLettEAGII conceived the l clause un necessary, as there was no reason to suppose Mi• niiners would mse,their power in the nitinner the Bight. Hon. Gentleman represented. The intro duction of such a chose would only serve to di punish the re,pouibility of Ministers. Mr.. PRESTON was understood tq support 'the clause. • Mr. LITTLETON said, that if lie was rightly in, formed, a man of the name of Belfroi, whose perty was invested here, hat.l been bent Out of the country in 1815, after beven, years residence here.' There was no reason to believe inunic.ii to the Bourbons. He hail lost three .sons by the Conscription, quel had a daughter married to an • Englisbuntn. 'This he conceived to he a cAse in Ministers had abused their power, aptk was aterefore inirjiling to renew it. - • •. Mr. 1181.+NETT asked for an explanation of •the case mentioned by his Hon. Friend. Sir S. Itoutt.t.y said that lie urtderstood- Mr. Bearoi to have been most hostile to ,Blionaparto; ti nder.Vvhose Conscription Law three At WO sons had been sent to the anny, and had perished. ADDINOTON hoped the }louse would not give credit to therand•An assertions that the Seeri,- tary of State. had improperly used the power plactit in his hands. Ile - protested .agaitrst7r. being Called upon to answer such questions as hart been. put to hint. He contil;.lkowever,assnre the House, that Mr. liefiroi tad not' been sent to France to c. , pose fdat to any danger j , and that the Secretary of Stiete had always b'e'en most Outings not to send Aliens to places where . they"might be 0b .,, nnxiuiita to ill treatment. Mr. Amett.cßONllSlE'errlplainetb` that when any Titrticular ease ►vit» •; ,usentioned or. Iptcstrrot. put, the Right hon. Gentleman always protested gairuit . being called, upon .to aceOunt for svliat he had douse. The true 'reason why he wonld not an, ewer, however, wt,ts not difficult to be guessed. Judging from what had' already taken place on a tormer occasion, there Wag no doubt .bat he wa informed on the clyenmstances' of the case. The , was not intended. CO punish offences against England, but offenca.against other Governments. Jt was •a measure of Concert between :the Noble Lord and the head Ministers of other States,. by which', at the expenee of our Constitution, we were to beCome the. Assistant Police Officers of other conutrica. After a few wards in reply from Mr. H. Ad dington, rind same brief rejoining observation! from Lord Milton and Mr. Brougham,' the Amend ment was negatived. Mr. PONSUNBY proposed as an Amendment, that after the word " notwithstanding,” in the last clause of the Bill, , be added,-" provided al ways, that there be laid before the lionse,within `lO days after the meeting of- each Session al Par liament, the name of each person sent oat of the kingdom since the last day of the preceding Sts sion." Lord CXSTLSREAGJI saw no reason why the . mime of each Alien should be promidgated,which Would be-hurtful to the feelings of their friends, and perhaps injurious to - themselves,without bcing of any utility whatever, Mr. PRESTON bilnporfed the Amendment. Mr. PoNsoNnv replied, that the Amendment would make Ministers more cabtious as to whom they sent out of the country. • Sir SAMUEL ROMtLLY then proposed that the words " two years" be left out of the last clause,' for the purpose of inserting " one Year." Mr. HouNea strongly supported this. Amend ment, on the ground that such an immense arbi-, trary power ought not to be entrusted totinis—, ters, without the utmost jealousy. The period of two years would give them the opportunity o exercising this power through the whole 01 the next Session, without being called on to state the necessity for it, either real or supposed. `l he Will appeared to hint to be a ierroaca, and a sjaitt upon the diameter of the House and the Country. Lord CASTLItItE&GIi observed, • that it woad equally open in the next SeSsion of for any Memberto move the repeat of the Bill.— The pyriod of ,two,years was the shortest Which ought to be proposed in the first instance. sir J, INIACKINTOSII 3i6kti.iin favour of tht Ainzudin eat. There had not been assigned u singlet satisfactory reason for'continuing the Bill for two years . , it was a Bill solely fOr the , creation of tyrannical - power, to substitute Lettres de Cachet intead of the Act of Habeas the terrots.Ot the inquisition, in the place of the -Trial by Jury. A:'ter some further ohserNations from'Mr. PON soiN n't against any necessity for the front -Lord_ CAsTLEI6 AGLI, in ,reply, and froth Mr. BROUGnaM, who, in the course of his speech, phi a high compliment to Mr. John Reeves', for his independent conduct while at the head of the Alien Departntent; asserting, that his opinion co incided itt all that' had been said by the opponents of the Bilh. ~The lionsa divided on the Antendment,, fixing the durttion of the Bill to one year— 'For it" Aglinst Ft, Major 4 .„ Mr. \U an, on our return to the Gallery, was .speaking ill opposition to the Bill, which, if pas,ed for two years, might be considered as a pennant:tit measure, and one which ought not to be sanctioned without prooti of its necessity, none of which had in his opinion •been offered. The lion. tlentleman argued at much length, to sitter that however necessary the nreaSnees might have been in 1793, that period could only be compared with the present by way of contrast for-no Hotg-; lishman . of•this day would wish to take lessons of liberty front any Foreigner, and no foreigner, he' should think, would be impudent enough to otter any. • Mr. LOCKHA.RT reviewed. the _progress of .ja-, cobinical sentithents from the year 1793. I.4.ld luded to the opinioa.of Sir J. Macitintoslr, in I'Bol, when defending Peltier„that those princt- . ", pies wonbi never bejenoupeed by those who bad once ,inibibed ; them. lie firmly believed, that though such persons had'ios't the pow,er of disse minating such principles, they would never aban don the itlchnation to do - so'. He' defended . the 13111, front a eonietion of its propriety, and'ifiat Ministeri would'never'atinse the power vestet, them to provide for tife -- poblie security.: 'These. Were extraordinary titres, and he felt - that extra ordinary ineas'ores were stilit4ecoosary: Possrotif repeated his sentiatetssagairtst. tbe - Bill, „Altera - few words fraint:Sic , .J,. Nsty.rilßT and ` Mr, BanUGHAM, the BIN was na i l a 'tart! time, and pas se d without a diviSinn.,!.r, The. Resolutions of t hie .Connuittee. on th.e,Coin-....; age Btll.:were brou& , ..and...agreed, CHOK En afterwards, brought tip the Bill, .tvhieh was rea,3l a first finie t ,anti ordered f 4,.. a Seetinil -* reading on Thuriday net. Mr. CHOKER moved roiTleWielo'brirfk - in a MU' 40 enable all Officers and Soldiers who had served in the army, navy, or marines,..to exersise;tratles4 • Sir •VtisaLus PoLR suggested ilkat,thq slio,l4,Thr;ltide the militia, ..rtt • • Mc: ;‘,:aou a. replied „ that.the I3W lit& beete co pied Verally from t hat .which fad al wayS - beekin- . trodueed at , ,tite . end of a Wee.—Lee-Ye Oven- oi On the motion of Mn. Rosit, the Report of tfie.l ..,Saving's Banks Bill was•tieffered.to be received ow Tidotley 'next. Tbre' Bill, foe the regidation of Matehonses was reatra'Seeond tittle and eonnnittete—lteport on Mondey . 'eteenight. The Millhank Penitent:ary Bill was read a thirrl time told passed. • The Exchequer Bills Bill was read a secort4, time. • The House went into a Committee on t Madder .A et saint ious far, goetinuing.the ties ,agreed to. There were also Committeei on the Lotter jt Bill. • „. Mr.. J. P. thlwr ruse to move the resump tiou of the debate on the 7Fiimine The motion being agreed to, he observed, that he should "have thought he had' neglected-an itnpor tent part of ,his duty, it he had omitted to Call the attention of the House to a subject of such deep . inteeest. It was impossible for any Gentlenian, who had 'listened to the speech of the Right Alontstwahle Gentleman on opening the *kel fr . not to he, convinced that the country laboured. tneler the most severe difficulties. It Was cleat that thq expenditnres it ! the .fi=rst year of .peace, far exceeded ,the revenues, and were likely to continua in this way for years to came. If the proposition, . which - he should baste the weir to propose, shpuld helece ildinisterS to adopt sincere system of economy :and retrenehrneet, lie,should think be had attained a very greet ah ject.., Be by no weans Wished to eucourage de epoutlency, but to lance the House to look. the real financial danger of the country in the face. Ile was astonished that Ministers 'ho*con tente& themselfes with going"cm with temporary expedients, to meet temporary objects, without callin ;_ tnein , the fretise to assist them, end ex ercise its...wisdom iti r a;Coinmittee of inquiry. If heshouldlee_detected in- any slight inaccuracy in the statements he was 'about to make, it would give him no sort of peiu ; but if detected in any gross inaccuracy - f el - re shOuld feel proud, as it mead slo.e.e that the eitnation of the country was nOt'so bad as be apprehended it to be. All he had done was to take the expenditure from the votes of the of the permanent charge on the Consolidated Fund, He had taken altogether the expenditure of the United King-, dom, withoui giving any , credit for the por tion that related to-Ireland, as it was clear that Ireland could contribute no portion of that ex penditure froni her own resources. The Hon. Gentleman then proceeded to react the substance of hie Resolie,ione, twenty-seven in nember,- de clara!ory of tite votes agreed to by the House, for the various supplies-ol• theyeer. On the part which related to the deficiency of the revenue, to defray the charges of tee•National' Debt of lie l'and, which was 616,3081., Irish currency, the Han. Gentleman remarked; that ;as it wes'evident she. could.not defray "this porti on o f her expendi ture,' site could eontribute-nothing to the other portion - ti of 'her general share, anti that therefore Eugland , mnst bean the whole. When to this stun . of '610,308L was, added the charges on the Civil List, and other pertnauent charges that ought to be defrayed out of the revenues of ire. Yana; ,it that ate defieiency amounted 1,031,2041.. Os. . 'Britfiah 'Money tied inprosing ~~ ' ii that in January, 1817, the same deficiency PIT veiled, there would be 1,000,000/.a year added the 30,000,0001. to be annually defrayed 'by the, United Kingdom. He would rather understatit the expenditures of Ireland than overstate them The 18th Resolution set forth that on the sth a:mum y there was due from Ireland tti Great prig tain, as the balance arising from the payment 01.1 tacit country, on account of the joint charge of thei United Kingdom, the sum of 2,942,2801. 8 5. 1 1 d. - ; There was at the same' time in the Exchequer oil Ireland an unappropriated balance amounting tO 1,336,6951. Gs. 5d ; which, deducted 'root AO i former sum, left to he provided, on aecnunt °t ire land, a further sum of 1,605,5851. 2s. 6d. , The total sum to be provided for by England, exclusive, of the charges on the consolidated Fund, wo uld its the present year amount to 32,722,6301. 124 11(1 ' To meet this, he skewed the Ways and Mesta brought forward by the Chancellor of the . Be* chequer amounted tri 16,584,9761. leaving a deficiency of 16,137,6641. 12s. I lth , In the state' mama he bad now made, some slight deviatioat from the printed Resolutions would be observed', as he had altered some of his figures, in order to admit into his resolutions the Chancellor of 0 0 Exchequer's own calculations. He then went into a lung statement of figures, theresult of whieli he strewed to be, having added to the charges fur the present year the 500,0001, required for the new coinage, and the various charges , gr oW!t L out of the late loans for Ireland, a sum 14,117,3071. remained to be provided for io Log.. land by a loan. This was our sii o.tion in tliv present year, in which the Chancellor of t h 6 Exchequer thought he had so happilY-g"' ove , all the difficulties with which the country inlF ! o lisd to contend. He (Mr. Grant) n ow wi's l ic , the House to look at. the sitw it i on in ivhi c , i ` the country would stand. in future years. •la outer to do thi s he fi rst deducted those charge ! which. were peculiar to the present year, so u which would not again occtir, These inducting tile Ordnance Service for .1814 and 1815, awl " i '''' the Ordnance tor' Ireland in 1815, -the p.luiLat of debentures, the dibt to the East II II Cow' pally, thlt to the Bank of England, and the b , " !ince due- to -Ireland, amounted together ' O 4,961,6031. 4,961,603/. 1 Is. 3d. The reductions iind farther savings-on the Staff of the Army, and in the Ord' mince depart merit; added to this, - would make 111 !,. . total charge toile borne in the present year, ou,' W-hickwauld not occur ngain,'5,045,575/..10s St" This sum deducteilthom the 32,722,6301. 1.2.11( 1 . -which, he )tad. shenrn to be the total charge (": • elusive of the charges on the consoliclate‘i Old!, to be borne in the present year., l e ft a sum in 7.27,677;055/. 2S. 3il.' which it Was prohibit! " should hare to bear-in future years. To m eet this charge the WayS and Means; dedUcting tbe " g . traortfinary aids of the present year, ''petted to amount to 9,800,0001. supposing! " ex.isting taxes not to become leis productive that; ,they were at present, leaving a O e ficieney " ' 17,877,8551. 2s. 2d: which must be - met by reiluc: thin of expenditure, iiir , by an in crease m i g ht be else ee of taiotinu''' 'Ministers must far years have looked for such' 7 result-; the•unexpectedly fortunate terminati on u War onist have spared theni expences which thet. could not butt have . suppoiesi the country'o at have ro meet ; large sums rat Money bad in " 11 ' sequence remained in their hands, on which th e l, could uot have calculated they therefore tri ty ' fur years have looked forward to a deficiencY aril of less noo oetude than that which he had no "v to exist, and he-now wished-to know of 1 14 , - Chancellor of the Exchequer what' plan he I I " formed for carrying the country through the 4" culty? He bad been surprised to hear this CliaucePf of the Exchequer on a formereVening exult diet 4, portion of our debt would - be paid off in the resat year ; without appegring to consider first 'that I bis ' was paid off by means of the Sinking Fan ( ' r: secoodly, that it was the consequence of the ".- plus giant remaining in' hind Of the precedil year; and, 'above -all, without remembering tb'„ he had . propose d to keep up Establishments, t 11:: expence of which eroalti exceed, by five or six 01' lions the produce of the War Income of last y e `“, t In that year the total expenditure of the cotint`; had been about seventy • -two million s ; an'l 11 . 1 e total receipts, up to January last, sixty-six Si' lions and some odd thousands. Ministers, 1 ,1, a . , Maintained, had 'not exerted themselves to cti°'-', any savings that might relieve the cottony W l * the weight of taxation under which it now lahe d ' ed, t ill they were compelled to do so by the decisit/ii of that House on the Property! Tax. The soil s ' 1 heyhad effected ,after all,amounted to but 177, 000 ' a SUM small when compared with tile, t o t a l 00 1 : diture of the nation; but large When the soots 0' of which it had been saved were considerca,'. He'shauld be glad to knOw that our future, er ; ' penditure could be reduced below the st" 11 'j f l Which he had taken it,. bat would Ministers h',,, - out any hopes-Of this ? Would they take up on themselves- to say, that the expence of out c(),.'°e*: nies would he less in the next year than tbe P• r i . sent ; or that a smaller army would be ucces9 l 4 .i for the security of Ireland Oleo was et r ese ll s called for ? He wished to know what. reductiee could he made to cover the deficiency of which-d . had spoken 1 He did not say great saiingt c s , lt not be effected, but consistently with the 1 ,04 ; 0 '4- views of Ministers, they could not. He'"' lslll 'i- to know to what they would pledge themselvieso He then contended, from the returns of ' B 4 year, the revenue seemed to be in a sinking 1,10 in a falling state ; and from a view of ? „ i papers to which he referred, he thought it ivi7. chinierical to hope the Ways and Means wo"I' l c r, e thine what they had been. He doubted if t c l g , would produce what the Chancellor of th e file chequer caleulated upon in the , present year i ...... more than doubted their doing so in the ne% t t ' b , He wished to know what was the plan of 1 . 0 1 ChancellOr of the Exchequer, whether be 10 0 ' s I, forward at all to a reautuption of cash 114 Y rnes- t o'f or whether lie looked to a new depreciatioaxo our currency, to make the collection Of Il ls ts r e less difficult, and the payment of his ileitis m ° ~ easy;--he wished to know if he thou tinning still to borrow of the Bank, or if-. L h e p s ot content to go- on from! year to year with"' o a k plan at all, anti mist .to his stars to extricate ..,1, from those difficulties which resulted from bii!" o, providence ? He then moved his first Resolu tic .' r ~,„ declaratory of the Grants made in there - scu t J - for the set viCe of the Navy. thought of coot;