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~nf 4 41 • tt•as to -._t rid it, but 1:66g in r ite ; e , • (.1 )1,„Ivel e " l l , n1(ill11,115 before hand. it lie srconth it, fulleatrtlit wortld I , _.ave it the hands Of the Livery' witlitlie ~htlth eu hfidelice in their decision. Ile 110 W r ea d i t, l 4". t Deli/ to (hi at they saw propet. • ri,,,';"ved, That the Right Honourable Atkins, the Atio‘. Ma y or ' 01' the . City of 'London, by his intemperate an d of ay i'.conduct 'during the Nteeting in Smithfield, on Weilies braciti by inciting the peaceable citizens to acts calcuiated kli;„ uf loce riot and hlootished, in direct oppoilibin to the tv 'l e , of bis Brother Alderman, is a proof of the il . isregard t ens "eh he holds the rights and liberties of his feliow- , lti- When pot in competition with his own ambitious views iP a lty feelings. it) hi, led, l'herefore, that he has betrayed the trust reposed tt,,,F"'Allti has thereby ren d ere d hi m self unw o rthy the. future , detice • f 1 f 14" V "PIP" ') e 1 It vas imp„„ible that OLE!: seconded the Resmut ion. s co w ; "Y Resoluti on could be too strong; is expressiin, ; their itut PIR for his Lordship. Lord .lityor had gross pl a. „em his fellow -citizens, thanks to their folly fi' 11;1‘111:: in his pr esen t s it uat i on; b ill 11., having dotie . so, it ith iq u e. 1' duty to let him s ee th e s e n; i i th ey entertained of that Ai r `"" s iapplause.) Of all ' WALTHMAN said it was hisduts'to hear ti n opii;ionlstit,. I'llllollt expressing is sil, lint as lie %as th e ,a .. ed on that occasion„ h and w as he wished t.; y :at pal l l of shou Id s uffer fronr , — . OXp r 11 •1\1' ruse to miler. The tha:r: nan had no right ; to u pon ess his op i nions on any Resulutio:l which he was tiled ,11 t o put from the Chair.;,l:- AN, to Ilunt—l call you to order, Sir. 1 call yuti to 'orc:er, Sir. t rQ `VAI 1,1 VC- I .4...litleincii, lam in your hands. It del. Ebsor4eriy to interri,•o the Chaa siith disor %ti c utizintied, I slia!l feel it my daty t‘i toy . fre tferir,s"'"i'm• know that I ;vv. not ex-icily in order in of fri,,4 lily opiu:0:1, 0:1 this . Itos.dution, ?tilt sorely as au o ld M r ""Y be allowed to say a word or two. bh, t i wo .„. it: , IL , decide Jett t he soall ‘u. 51154 not he parr. Ile lia• . dl rso • ' i r -0 so at Ills dote, howevee, is simply to put the At r ul !l haMleil to awl hisses.) • ' enllntlet is well eaten.ated to dist u banCel I shall pot tile tltte,l jou, but +ls of of this kind I most make my how and to • are that 111 ' * this Resolution be 41°4' . S ":a (iii' I i,'"e!—You out - .of order; the miglit to he put 'first.—(f•ries of bravo! Hunt, AI TIINi.:IN—Sir, von need not bellow like a Pla t tn re d you, bellow lilac a bi.illy.—ylp -41,c,5-e 4511 it;sscs.l- . —Hei t is a Mein'iur of the House of Cow altietnl"") 4"" not know whether an original 1111.1t11111 Of an 31 14 t should be first put.—(Thenoi.,e. was here so great ▪ t ‘ 7 .l ,',ditticult to hear, is hat passed.) AN—.-11 this contract he continued, most '° ~' Y "tal , e iny bow and withdraw. I hloiw that it is usual Amin;dinetit first, but sorely iiiis could be done kse;"ti."• tlvb titt)tilence and bullying. It cannot be sup , m r can t its lie inflnenced, by such conduct. bate .I„` U NT—Your . shaflling won't do; it is ton late; you kr, V t ; Pu - •ver in that way—(t.:beers and hisses). AI C I-I .‘l.lN—Gent kitten, you hear I ant taxed with kly toid th at I have lost my power ; I can , •nly / 2 14; lat 1,1 41 if. • 1 ;t: 111,1 violence %vill not do here, liowever it tarji:,";sWer elsewhe re. ' The, A:tienuntelit was then I:ut, and Ir Ir q' y—( Loot! diviing). 14 4' STYPI-11..NS stud that the Meeting had still ;; 4 " e•olv t " • •to propose a Vote of Thanks tlte ; t o e ' '' . his - praise', ortily conduct in V c . ' then proposed the luliuwi ieg t • ''Tti " -- at the Thanks of the lii very be partic4iat ly Alderman Waithantn, tor giving an addl e-t" l' \ "."3f 01 his devotion to the tights of his . ▪ ""is , tio t o ,res ide up••ii the present occasion, thus 1 it ex ., ,tcss their 50110 of the irregular ott) Zelv a • * L . on his ig - Itt, hr order to chew that aid to "1 from his duly. lie now catue fgor• :I ;Thl i. the paraosO sliewing that be eras lint ill the t 4 St e a;:t u,:t,d by private or party feelings. t. . ti sticon.led ° Lie bravo, h e 14 WR , . cat unanitnowly. qt• • • •-• t , e of his fellow that in ~ ‘ll 4t. " 3 lit: l , ;1L1 hit I nit He must however say, its • not acce - i't as a compliment the concurrence of ( 1 1 - i l ium) i:t the Vote of Thanks (cri..i of ai1,12• (tiler the treatment he had received. :1 1 ,, ' I ' o j ' ' conduct was such as to deserve lt s , j il met wAli front that in dividual, • hot iles ervc the th :ohs of the Meeting, and the '''s (Mr. lima' s ) part, must have been a very 1.1nc0n t,,,,,i, •ith. l le. ile was taught one lesson by this day ' s pro io !i'o • u-is Like e ire how he again placed himself a, 14 I I- 51 4 04141 n to (Fronted by that itidividual (Mr. Hunt, 1 ,- ,, - "") , '; i r n futtirC• sincerely t flanked his , • prov a l of his ' conduc . t. • " , Ales dud hisses, mixed some applause, follow !' MI % (turning to the Reporters)—Gentlemen, I don't -511 ‘' ti • ""' what this noise is to be attributed; lint I ?"..Tb,""t, bon, wi t ••• • c•inse it arises, you will mention it. t. 1.4 t t.yel 1)1"1/lie tip. - - P ROVINCIAL JOURNALS. tat ie ext ract with pleasure the following Obser "' itorn The Sheffieid Mercury of the 24th • r.l4t. ' and the Friends of the Constitution must be trace 1 , pull. 1 knowing t us 1-t ' In 1 t so loy-.1 a Journal is 181) ell in the neighbourhood of the disaffected rches who want to overw h e l m us w i t h a r ~ 'ne.h Revolution :- 4, ~„ th, I here is not a reflecting person in the violent 24 1 %s ho doe s n ot vi e w with disgust the viole s itC.recolotionaty conduct of the demagogue re , tl o ' . ° ' taking advantage of ;he public pressore,,a Orders alt in thei r power to stimulate the lowe r . tr . er s of fL _ p , ue People, iu various parts of the coon Y I 'i t° -ci s of insubordination, clot, and rebellion. t tar, ter t „ ine pretenee.of petitioning . for Parlia nen i tlt "gorrn, these factions Miscreants hav e . got ia pi e t he habit of calling meetings at di ffer ent .and disorderly of course are assembled all the Ile disorderly part of the population, and where 11 :j liave .: " opportunity of instigating them, by ' n'c ' st `Baail t -v speeches, against the reli c A • " I" ("' • i iiia nd etv il,institutions o f the ir , ~___ login ous co n d uct i, i„ity appreciated by all tri: . o u l 4nd respectable part of the community, and *N t h Y ,calle for the interposition of magisterial til e , Qt , i Ys •to check and dontrol it. Indeed, r i o f all indignation —if the contempt and scd n ca o , g,ood nien--if the mischief they have alrea d y .th e ". , or the ruin they are likely to cause . to l ii : i t deluded followers, could have had any ef fect ki i i r l h ec king the course of revolutionary violence 'so , - ,7, t hese men are pursuing, and which they are er e t i: v e in r ecommending to others, they must tr t i i,s have stopped in their career; aad pau se d that N ay iheY precipitated others into crimes,. , s 111, if ea d to their destruction. But it seem 1 ) no • consideration of this sort "e loftwould an oh itet uence with them. The!, "vie 11) e ini ! O .gain, and is matters not oy what 104ktortnoils I ted -- I t is acquired, It is in the storms of revolutionary vicissitude that they s e e i tn , lt)t e chanc e o f obtaining what they are con; sw t hey neve r can acquire in the regular ant tpliiiell course of public life. Despairing of ac- Nrti n , g distinction by supesiority of talent .m tiiin it'it,beir meretricious ambition seeks to on ti►e -Y i ttesc ending to flatter the worst passions t,it ill ntoo, and by insultin g , as tar as they dare, 1, ' 4 l it dio n ifi d and in the land. — or ti lis s e venerable l ite 1 , P"Pose they instigate the lower orders of I'lift'l,"la t o assembl e i n pu b lic meetings, at I 'll tl . t .:,, Q t . course, they are invite 4 to preside, tth, re 1 'e m ost viol ent resolutions ate glassed---an ti " Jelly of speech is so free, that be who 0p .14'. - potet the prai:earlins most dc) it at thz ria of ills ltfe ! Buz the popular Orators are heard with delightoo memoir breaks in upoo the hold flights of a fluntno hiss interrupts the decla matory invective of a Woofer ! The most ames ing pait of it is, that while these Patriots are in veighing agains the tyranny of the Government, they are exercising the etuaost freedoM, and are seffered, in this enslaved conntry, to eniplriy with impunity a language that would, in any other, send them to the gallows " We are disposed to believe, hOwever, that a considerable share of the present discontent which pervades the mantitactering districts, is to be at tributed to the pressure that has fallen so heavily Ott I hose parts of the country, and that if that Was relieved we should hear less of Annual Parliaments or Universal Suffrage. People who are suffering the hard,hips and privations of poverty, are not in a very fit stare for reasoniug on the subject.— They feel too acutely to he capable of impartial in quiry. At all emviots they are generally ready, enaagh to at-quit themselves of all blame in pro ducing their own misfortunes,, and find it the easiest and the pleasaryest way to lay the fault somewhere else. They are ready enough to be lieve, what so many take care to tell them, that rile whole of their sufferings is to be ascribed to the Government, anti that if it were not for the taxes, &c. etC. they would always have plenty to eat and drink, and might be as idle and - as happy as any Gentleman in the lands! The natural cure of all their evils, therefore, is to he found in the election of a dernotratical house of Commons, by a-hich, we suppose, all the taxes would be re pealed—the natioruti debt cancelled—and neither army nor navy, nor indeed any establishment, suf fered to exist that might create expellee By such a Reform', too, is it not probable that the work ing classes (having the greatest influence in this new order of things) would take care of their own interests, so far as to insist upon having *ork at what they might deem reasonable wages, and not leave so important a part of their concerns to the arbitrary will of tyraenical masters ? With a House of Commons filled with such men as Hunt, Cnbbett, ‘Volseley, or Wooller, our cotton-tnills, for instance, never could stand still ; our shuttles would never pause, nor our treaters cease from work, even though no customers should be found to purchase what they wove ! Such a wonderful thing is this Reform, and such miracles is it ca pable of per'orming. " Connected with this subject, we cannot help recalling to the memory of our readers an exhi bition of female patriotism, which occurred lately at Blackburn, and which, as it is both new and extraordinary, deserves some attention, and will .afford 801112 amusement. At a meeting held at that place, a deputation of female reformers was adinitted, who with great ceremony pronounced an address suitable to the occasion, and presented the company with the appropriate ensign, a cap of liberty ! There was something so ludicrous in the whole affair, that we should suspect it bad been invented for the purpose of exposing the folly and extravagance of the whole party. It marks, however, the gross infatuation that, has seized upon great numbers in that part of the country. To what a pitch their revolutionary phrenzy must have arisen, when we find English women, forgetting the characteristics of their sex and nation, and rivalling in effrontery the in famous Poissards of Paris, (hating the heat of re volution, thus coming forward with unblushing faces—neglecting their families aud hearths—and assuming the language and tone of the most aban doned met)! What the 'peculiar principles of those Ladies are, we arc at a loss to guess, but we suspect that their claims will constitute an other modification, in the various plans of Re form that have been offered. lire fancy it has !,,tt yet entered the heads of those enlightened le gislators, Huta and Wolseley, to admit females to an equal participation of political privilege with the tnen,but the Ladies of Blackburn will no doubt lay claim to it, and we do not see how, oil the principles of' those Gentlemen, they can he re fused ; and the Lady Reformers of Blackburn, no doubt, are anxious to enjoy emancipation from the thraldom and tyranny of the men, and from all the restraints which the manners and instite tions of our country so unjustly impose on the sex ! " It it amusing to observe, that the leading orators, at the meetings we are talking of, are schoolmasters ! half-witted pedants, who, from being accustomed to give the law to the trembling tochins of their schook, have got it into their heads that they are the fittest persons to legislate for the nation ! From the principles which these men preach, one, would suppose that their schools were scenes of riot and misrule ; but it is generally found that those who prate most of the rights of meo, and contend inost keenly for popular privi lege, are the very last to grant it. As far as our acquaintance extends, the severest instances of domestic tyranny and oppression are to be found amongst tilose, who are must loud in their clamour for pubiie freedom. All this clamour, indeed, does not impose upon those who know them, and who look upon it as the mere effusion of disap pointed ambition, or a discontented spirit. Did • \lr. Cobbett's neighbours, at Bosley, discover in that gentleman's treatment of the surrounding poor, any traces of that deep interest he expresses tur the people in his wtitings on the contrary, is it not known that he was hated by the labour ing poor,, whom he oppressed and treated in the harshest manner ? And this is the general feature of the party—to respect. no rights but their own. They are ready enough to stimulate the poor to acts of violence against the laws, but we never find them suggesting plans for the amelioration of their situation, or lending their assistance to those who do. " We are glad to find that government has de termined to act with vigour against these agita tors, and that the local magistracy has already in terfered. These will be supported by all men of worth, talent, and respectability in the country, who cannot but see, in the accomplishment of the designs of these furious men, the destruction of every thing valuable in the kingdom. The laws are powerful enough,to preserve the peace, and if they are put in force, with the vigour the•occa sion requires, we sball soon see an end put to this system of anarchy %us) Popular vivience,", owrlN•s PLAN. Yesterdey a most respectable Meeting Writ held at the City of London Tavern, litshopsgate-street, for the purpose of receiving the Report of the Committee, appointed at the last meeting, to take Mr. CiwsN's Plan into consideration. llis Royal Highness the Duke of KENT being called to the Chair, explained, in a few words, the object of the meeting, and then proceeded to read the Report. It stated generally that the Committee, upon this important subject, had to regret the t:•ant of experience, as there was no establishment in existence exactly upon the plan proposed. "[hat at Lanark was of a commet cid nature, but it still afforded sufficient analogies, 'Ton which hopes of success might he fairly grounded, and the Commit , ee, therefore, recom mended, for the sake of experiment, one Esta blishment upon Mr. Owen's Plan. It might at least become instrumental to the production of a better system of Patochial rdief. The Report concluded by expressing the cordial thanks of the. Committee for the promptitude and facility with which Mr. Owen afforded opportunities for the investigation of his plan, and for that con descension evinced by him .upon hil occasions when any intercourse upon the subject was re quired. Mr. OwEs: then came forward to explain his views. The sante models that were exhibited up on a former occasion at the Freemasons' Tavero, were arranged upon a platform somewhat inclin ed, to afford a better opportunity for ohservatiou. lie proceeded to detail, at coosiderable those benevolent purposes in which he has been so long occupied ; the means ot carrying them into effect, and the happy consequences he ex pected from them. His speech was the same in substance and nearly in words, as that which af forded so much gratification to those who had the pleasure of hearing hits in June last, at the Free masons"raverts. Having concluded a pathetic address on the existing distresses of the country, he invited any gentleman present to propose such objections to the projected system of relief, as' might have occurred to his mind. A GENTLEMAN in the room begged to ask what would become of liberty of conscience under Mr. Owen's System ; and whether complete freedom of worship formed a part of it ? Mr. OweN said, he was friendly to liberty of conscience, as appeared from the Establishment at Lanark. There a Clergyman was employed to instruct the people its their own creed, and to convey these instructions in, their toothier tongue, many of them not understanding English. The Establishment consisted of about 2500 per sons, among whom not the smallest religious ani mosity existed. The children went to their dif ferent places of worship two by two, and, at parting, wished each other a good morning, with as much affection and cordiality as if they were all of one religion. The three sects, of which the Establishment consisted, were Calvanists, with some slight shades of difference. Major TORRENS wished to be informed whether, in Mr. Owen's contemplation, all the agricultural and manufacturing produce of the proposed vil lages was to be consumed witin each, aod if not, s how it was to be disposed of ? Mr. Oweta said, it might be consumed within the village, or sent to some other market, as cir cumstances required. Sir W. De CRESPIGNY begged leave to state shortly the reasons which induced hint to bring this subject forward in Parliament, The principal was the general distress which he observed to pervade the couritry. It had arrived to such a pitch that something must be done. lie looked with horror on the made of relief proposed by Government, that of transporting their fellow creatures to distant and barren soils.—(Applause ) It was cruel; it was*disgraceful to the nation. It was, in his mind, a sufficient motive for adopting any plan that might relieve the existing miseries of the people, and preclude the necessity of so cruel an alternative. it was Mr. Owen's declared opinion, that if the population was four times more numerous than it was, there were still am ple means of support within the country itself, if they were converted to the proper use. His plan was condemned upon the ground, that it tended' to render man too much of a machine. God for hid that man was not a machine.- The more he was a machine' the better, if the mechanism was so arranged and conducted as to lead him to the practice of rectitude and virtue. If men were not machines, they would for ever remain in the sa vage state, wild, uncultivated, hiding themselves in holes and corners, without any knowledge of social comfort, without the practice of any virtue. The object of Mr. Owen's plan was to introduce industry, useful exertion, comfort, and educat ion, and by that Means destroy sloth, misery, and im morality. Of the efficacy and wisdom of his plan, no other proof need be required than that they who once felt the effects of it in the establish ment at Lanark never wished to make any change. For the last 14 years there was not a single in stance of any person belonging to that establish ment being prosecuted its a Court of Justice.- -(Applause.)—His only apprehension, upon the present occasion, was want of money to try the experiment. The colonial and other establish mews were supported at a vast, and, in a great measure, a useless expence—streets were pulled down, for the purpose of building new ones, at an enormous charge to tie public ; but let any proposition for the relief of the poor be men tioned, and it was sure to be declared wild, vi sionary, and impracticable. He congratulated the country that such a man existed as Mr. Owen, and that there were persons as illustrious for their - rank as they were distinguished for the extent of their charities, willing to take the chair Nom such occasions, and to come forward boldly for the public good. The Hon. Baronet concluded with a high eulogium upon Mr. Owen, who, if be should fail of his reward in t his life, would be sure to receive it from that Being who allowed no '4i-toe to go unrewarded in another. He then proposed, as a Resolution, that the Report of the Committee appointed on the 26th of June be confirmed and approved. Mr. TooKE seeourlial the Resolution. Ile did 110'1)re - tend . to say, that all the views of Mr. Oxen vroulil be realiztd, but at least 'Le plan was wortntrial. One experiment -r.-enld sti.te the question now at issue between Mr. Uwea mut the political economists. The Duke of Kt NT begged leave to call their attention to the object of the Meeting. The present assembly met merely for the purpose of receiiring the Report, and determining whether they would confirm it or not. It ream desirable that the utmost harmony should prev,il, and that nothing should manifest itself but a spirit of conciliation. fle hoped, therefore, that reel)? Gentleman, who was disposed t o speak, %you'd, confine himself to the subject immeth?ceiy be fore them, and banish every thing bordtJirg on political differences of opinion. It w'y such dis cussion shotilii arise, he expected the concur rence and assistance of the Meeting in putting it down. Mr. LovVE oppoied the Iteso lie con tended that the effect of the proposed plan aotticl be to produce an increase ut popalation heyonq the means of subsistence. He did not agree with the principle of the Hon. Baronet (Sir W. 1)e Crespigny) that it was desirable men should be come mere machines. The proposid plan would have that effect, and rob them of all in . -- dependence and enterprise. It would besides in crease the e%isting. evils, by producing a greater quantity of those commodities for which there was now no market, and by throwing capital out of employment. Such ft plan tnight answer in a, new colony,. but not in a country circumstanced as this was. THELtvALL thought nothing WAS more de sirable than that all men , hould become machines in the sense of Ole Hon. lir °net ; of of which intellect was the moving nrinciple. It was the most efficacious means of commtE.icAting that degree of instruction without which the mul titude, that many-headed monster, Was always . _ dangerous. A GENTLemAN now rose wir)se nano. could not be learned: lie spoke in a very subdued roue of voice, and begged leave to communicate a piaci for the relief of the poor. to he had, for it long time, pail consi‘ferable attention. The Gentleman was proceeding, when he was in:er-. rowed by Mr. ROSVCROFT, who said, that the Meeting' was assembled merely for the porp:)se of ticeitflog whether the Report of the Committee %vas to be confirmed, or not. There were at present not less than 12 or 14 plans ready to be brought for ward by Gentlemen present. They might have considerable merit, but it was very clear that if diey were all gone in!n, nothing could' he done, and tlie business of the Meting roust be entirely relinquished, at least for that day. The Resolution was then put, and - carried tine. nituously. Mr. JERVIS proposed another Resolution, the object of which was, to declare the sense of the Meeting as to the policy of trying the effects of Mr. Owen's plan in a s:ngle experiment. Mt. GREY seconded the Resolution. Major TORRENS also supported it, but merely with a view to make trial of a new plan of educa tion. He clicl not expect from Owen's sys— tem all the good effects that Gentleman antici pated. The distresses of the country arose from three circumstances : the necessity of cultivating land of an inferior quality, the present system of Corn Laws, and the great weight of taxation.— Mr. Owen's plan would remove neither of these causes, of course it could not materially alleviate the distresses of the people. _ After a few obervations from Arr. SAUXDRRS and ,Nlr. RowcsorT, who deprecated the intto duction, upon the present. occasion, of those ab struse disquisitions connected wi!lt political eco nomy, the Resolution was agreed to. General BROWN moved, that 100,0001, should be raised by way of subscription, tor the purpose making the proposed experiment. The motion was unanimously agreed to, and a subscription accordingly opened, for which see the Advertisement in our Ist Page. The announcement of the subscriptions was followed by enthusiastic applaule. His R-)yal Highness, in closing the business of the day, remarked, that they had been .guilty of one very great omission, and that they !lad thought more - of him th to of the person with whom the plan originated.—(Applause.)—He begged to propose their general acknowledgments to Mr. Owen for his ttonble. The Resolution having been carried, his Royal Highness left.tl►e Chair at a quarter before five o'clock ; after which ti►s Meeting broke op, DREADFUL EXPLOSION OF A COAL MINE.—Tt is our painful dn; y to notice another of those dit• tressing accidents which so frequently occur in coal mines. On Tuesday morning last, owing, it is reported, to some ,neglect or mismanage ment regarding the .safety lamps in the S)crilf hill Pit, at Gaieskead, near Newcastle-upon- Tyne, a dreadful esplostiro took place, by which. nearly 40 persons have lost their lives. Had the accident happened an hour laver, it is sail about 100 persons would have perished.--.Eightee the unhappy sufferers have been interred at Gates head church-yard, and 14 in the chapel-yard ; the remaining bodies have either been given to their respective friends, or nOt yet taken out of the pit. Amongst the poor unfortunates, were three boys trolls Whitehaven, who had been taken there by.their mother and obtained work, but were soots atter dismissed ; c onsequently their patent .ap plied to those in risanagemen:, and again obtained employment foeher . .childt en, just its time to share the melancholy fate that has just befallen them and their fellow-sufferers. The same pit, we believe, exploded about boar years ago, when con siderable damage was done.—(Cartis/e Paper.) At Limerick,SessionS last week, a coincidence of names in a case for trial, rather cot ions, oc. curred, and is worth recording :—A man, of the name of Kidd, was prosecuting a man of the name of Wolfe, tor an assault ; and as it was necessary to have corroborative testimony, a man, named Lamb, was produced to give evidence against the • Wolf On winding up the affair, the teroci - v of the Wolf, in his attack upon the harmless Kidd, wa s so glaring, that' the' July (ot which a Grote ruse forcwan) ivatantly prouvuaccd a conviction.