The Sun. — London, England, 1841-10-04 00:00:00

MORNING SUN THE CORN LAWS AND COMMERCIAL REFORM. PUBLIC MEETING AT DERBY. On Tuesday last, pursuant to public requisition, signed by '347 persons, to the Mayor, a meeting was held in the Town-hall, to " consider the propriety of memo rialising her Majesty the Queen, praying her Majesty not to prorogue Parliament until some measures for re lieving the present extremely depressed state of trade and the distress be taken into consideration." _ On the motion of Mr. JOSEPH STRIITT, the Mayor was voted into the Chair. Mr. MADELEY rose to move the first resolution, and after briefly explaining the object of the meeting, and referring to the general state of distress which prevailed throughout the country, said he need not go from home to seek distress. Even in our own town, though it is never affected to the extent of many others, yet if they would attend the Court of Requests—if they would attend the Board of Guardians, they would be witnesses of the depression and human suffering even in our own town.— (Hear, hear.) And the evil was extending. Need he remind them of the condition of the stocking-makers ? Need he tell the people of Derby that this class of opera tives had only had quarter work for the last two or three years ?—(Hear, hear.) Was it necessary that he should state in that assembly that so late as last week, Messrs. Brittle and Co., of Belper, discharged 150 of their hands, and closed their Derby warehouse, because they had not trade to keep it open ?—(Hear, hear.) Was this a state of things to he allowed to continue without calling upon Parliament to alleviate the misery that was everywhere extending itself ? After going over the arguments on the Corn-laws, Mr. Madeley concluded an eloquent speech by moving a resolution expressive of the severe distress existing, and that the Corn and Pro vision-laws were the only cause of embarrassment and derangement. The Rev. NOAH JONES seconded the motion, and was loudly applauded. lie said that he did not deem it ne cessary. in coming forward on the present occasion, to apo logise for his profession. He was a Minister of religion —he was also a man.—(Cheers.) He had been a politi cian ever since he became a man, and so long as he felt as a man and an Englishman he would never hesitate to express his opinions, and, whenever his services might be of any use, to interfere in the politics of his country. The means by which the friends of monopoly had gained a temporary triumph were well known. That their tri umph was only temporary he felt persuaded, and in expressing the satisfaction he felt at coming forward on that occasion at the request of the Liberal Operative Association lately established, he could only ask them to go on as they had begun—and they would eventually succeed in securing for themselves all they asked, that they might be permitted to enjoy the full fruit of their honest industry.—(Cheers.) The resolution was put and carried unanimously, amidst loud cheering. Mr. JOHNSON rose to move the address to her Majesty in conformity with the object of the meeting, as described in the outset of this report. After some preliminary remarks, he said, the opponents of restrictions on food were charged with over-stating the case, and with being too sanguine of the results of an alteration. Now he thought, as far as this question had been debated in this town, the people had taken a rational view of it ; they always considered it a question of principle, and not of detail. It was a question simply of justice or injustice, of right or wrong—either it was right and ought to be maintained, or it was wrong and ought to be abolished. But when he knew it to be a fact that on one side of the Channel the quartern loaf costs Bd., and that on the other side it might be purchased fin. 4d., he thought there must be some good on the one side and a great deal of evil on the other.—(Loud cheers.) Whether they read the speech of Lord Stanley in North Lancashire, or Sir James Graham to his constituents, or of the moderate Lord Eliot in Devonshire, it was quite evident we were doomed to the operation of what in Manchester had been very appropriately called " the infernal machine."—(Cheers.) The prospects of the harvest were good up to the middle of July, when, from the many rains, it was evident the harvest would be affected, and foreign wheat required to sup ply the expected deficiency. At that time aboat 400,000 quarters of foreign wheat was in bond, and it was computed that 1,200,000 quarters of wheat had been purchased at 20s. per quarter advance, in conse• quence of the deficiency of our own crop ; therefore the foreigner received 1,200,0001. more for his wheat than would have been required under a regular trade, and from the suddenness of the demand it would be paid for in gold instead of manufactures in regular way of trade, as all other foreign commodities were paid for. He then read the address, and moved its adoption. The Rev. J. GAWTHORN seconded the motion. Mr. STRUTT, M.P., rose and said. that they had seen Sir James Graham and Lord Stanley sent to their con stituents to be re-elected. They had seen it reported that these conspicuous Members of the new Administra tion had told the electors that there is to be no material alteration in the present Corn-laws ; and yet at the same time, they saw other Members of the same Govern ment whose purposes it might serve—they saw Sir George Murray telling the electors of Manchester, and other Conservative Members telling their constituents too, that they were convinced Sir Robert Peel was, in in reality, a sound free trader at heart ; that he was anxious to promote trade, alleviate the distresses of the country, and that if they would only trust him, he would obtain for them measures far more liberal than any which were likely to be carried by the late Government.— (Ironical cheers.) Now, he would put it to the meeting whether this was a fair proceeding.—(No.) He knew not what the country would say on this waiting for the chapter of accidents—of this blowing hot and cold to suit the various objects of this varied Cabinet—of this playing at fast-and-loose with great principles—this trifling with the people's sufferings. But this he did know, that the time was come when it was necessary for the people of this country to act for themselves—(l' ehe ment and long-continued cheering)—and that at the next sitting of Parliament they should show that it would be in the power of no Ministry to prevent them from ob taining those just measures of redress to which corn- Mon justice entitles them.—(Reiterated cheering.) Thanks having been voted to the Chairman, the meet ing separated. SOUTHAMPTON'. A numerous meeting, of the inhabitants of Southamp ton, convened by the Mayor, in compliance with a requlk sition signed by 100 of the principal inhabitants and tradesmen, for the purpose of considering the present high price of provisions, and the propriety of presenting a memorial to the Queen, praying her Majesty not to prorogue the two Houses of Parliament, was held at the Guildhall on Thursday. The MAYOR having taken the Chair, L. HARMAN, Esq., proposed the resolution which had been placed in his hands " That it is the opinion of this meeting that a fearful:ambunt of em barrassment, privation, and distress prevails amongst the commercial, manufacturing, and labouring classes of the kingdom." They had reason, indeed, to be thankful that from the peculiar circumstances of their town, their la bouring classes were not exposed to the hardships and privations which were at this moment, and for some time past had been particularly severe in the manufacturing districts. But as they were more independent of such evils, it was so much the more incumbent on them to en deavour to procure the adoption of such measures as would tend to realise the distress and privation which now exist among their fellow subjects.—(Hear, hear.) He supposed there was scarcely a single person in that assembly who had not read in the public prints of the distress which prevails in the districts to which he had before alluded, and read the statement made in the House of Commons a few evenings ago by Mr. Sharman Craw ford, the Member for Rochdale. The meeting would recollect that one of the most prominent arguments Made use of by the Tories at the late election to induce the people to return Members of their party to Par liament was, that (if their own assertion could be be lieved) they were such excellent friends of the poor. ---(l.lear, hear.) He well recollected in this town the denunciations of the new Poor-law, and other argu ments made use of to induce the Constituency of this town to support the present Member. Just in passing he would refer to the subject of the new Poor-law, for the information of those gentlemen who might have been led by those means to give their support to the present Goverment. Sir James Graham, on behalf of the Government, had declared that they would support the present Poor -law in its entirety.—(Hear, hear.) It remained for the people of this country to say if they wou ld allow matters to go on a n y l onger as at present ; whether they were content to give way to the military despotism of the Duke of Wellington--(No, no)—or to be cajoled by the smooth-tongued hypocrisy of Sir R. Peel—a statesman of whom a powerful organ of his own party had drawn the following picture :—" We firmly b e lieve that no half- cunning tool of a local faction, no • bbi e e. attorney, no town meddler, or corporation facto turn, could more degrade civic economy by his way of called to administering it, or in . the hour art o e f n r u e l v d ers m e n , re wh account by the adverse party, degrade the cause by his mode of speaking_ about it, th an does the Conservative leade r degrade the noble science o f po ll ;. Strike the first perso n out of Sir Robert's speech —aye, unpinned. ai and a i out of his whole career, a an s d hip th u e n y n become le un twisted, a net unknotted , We stop not because we have not more to say, for we consider Sir Robert Peel's egotism about as copious a subject as one might wish _ e but because it is odious deed, t seeing it 0 write upon, per vades his every word and d thus to speak of a man for whom e we cannot help wishing well." This was from the British Cr itic , a hi gh Church organ.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. J. Hem., jun., said, on the last oc casion on which they met on this important question, the sub j ect brought before the meeting, was the question of the He was not one of those who signed the requisition ; he objected to do so on the ground, unless they went fully, not only into the Corn-laws, hut also the Provi sion -laws, he would not be a party to it. For it should be borne in mind that the restrictive laws applied not only to corn, but to every necessary of life that went into the belly of the poor man. The question now be fore them was the Corn and Provision-laws, and they were at liberty to deal with everything which related not only to corn, but to the taxes on all the necessaries of life. lie would now, without further preface, give his opinion that the principal cause of the distress at present existing- in the country, and not only at the' present time, but the cause of the distress at various periods during the 20 or ee years since the peace, was mainly to be attributed to the Corn and Provision laws.—(Hear, hear, and cheers.) During the war that preceded the peace of 1814, the people of this coun- N try were shut out fro m the benefit of receiving supplies from foreign countries. At the peace of 1815, to which the people had been anxiously looking for an al tered state of things, when they might have the opportu e.k, nity of importing provisions and the necessaries of life e l eee.eee generally, and that thereby would follow the profusion -7 , --7":" which all believed would be afforded them—at that time the present laws, as now in force, did not exist. At that time our neighbours the French, the Dutch, and all the F." V near states along the coast, could export into this coun try not only cattle, but a great portion of their super abundant provisions, to supply the wants of the people here. They were imported to a considerable extent, and the inhabitants, whose recollection extended so far back, would bear him out that it was a common occurrence for the quays and the High-street to be crowded with horned cattle, pigs, sheep, and a variety of other live stock, brought from those countries for our use.(Cheers.) Had such a state of things continued, it would have been, no doubt, beneficial to the people of this country ; but the Parliament of the landowners soon saw that this state of things must not exist. They were alive only to their own interest, and they resolved to put a stop to this. It was their interest to prevent importation, and they did so at once.—(Hear.) He would just read a short extract from the report on the import duties, which would in a few words show them to what extent these duties apply—" The following articles are prohibited, to protect British agricltural and grazing interests, viz.: corn and flour, and meal of all kinds, by prohibitory duties, except when the price reaches what would amount to what would be called famine prices in other countries : malt, beef, and pork, fresh or slightly cured : lamb and mutton ; cattle, sheep, and swine. High duties are levied on the following articles, to protect British agricultural and grazing in terests :—Tongues 3d. each ; bacon, 28s. per cwt.; pork, salted, 12s. per cwt.; sausages, 4d, per lb. ; potatoes, 2d per lb.; beer and mum 3/. Is. Id., or about 2s. per gal lon; ale, other than mum, 21. 135.; beans, kidney or French, 10d. per bushel ; fruits, various duties ; cider, 211. 10s. per tun ; hay, 245. per load of 36 trusses ; lard, Bs. per cwt.; onions, 33. per bushel ; lentils, 10d. per bushel ; pearl barley, 17s. 6d. per cwt.; mustard and carraway, and many other seeds.' Now he would ask, could there be any doubt as to the cause of the present dis tress, seeing that such duties as these were operating at this moment to prevent their importing the necessaries of life, which would immediately relieve that distress. —(Flear, hear.) But the landlords' Parliament prevents it, and they were too powerful for the people, and pre vailed against their interests. Another cause of the dis tress that exists, and had existed since the time he had before named, was the contraction and extension of the currency at different times, as suited the views of par ties having great command of capital. That, taken into consideration together with the Corn and Provision-laws, for the one arose very much out of the other, was quite sufficient to account for the distress that had prevailed for many years past. Now, he would ask, how was it the joint-stock banks had the power to extend or contract the circulation to this amount ? The private banks bad their share in causing the fluctuation, and surely they ought to have their share of the blame. But it was the demand for money that induced the bankers to increase the issues ; and on the other hand, when there was not a demand, the issues were contracted.—(Hear.) Left to itself the money trade was like all other trades, and was affected only by the demand and supply ; but when there were all sorts of schemes every day to prop up, or bang down particular interests, the consequence was a very serious injury to the people of this country. But he had no hesitation in saying there was a banking establishment that had the means to produce these effects, and that was the Bank of England—(hear, hear)—that great arm of the Government, which might be at one time used for the best, and at another for the worst, purposes. Every transaction and operation of that bank must affect private and joint stock banks. If the Bank of England contract or extend their issues, the others must do the same. Then came seasons of distress, but not without having been looked forward to and expected. The present state of commercial affairs had been foretold months back, and the banking establishments, seeing such things were about to happen, prepared themselves for it, as all prudent persons would, and husbanded their resources to meet the demands they knew they would have to encounter. He did not think, therefore, that joint-stock banks should be condemned in such unmeasured terms, as being the cause of the present distress, and he trusted the people would have too much good sense to be led away by such reasonings, when the facts were so different from what they were stated to be. They must anticipate great distress during the present winter, and in that anticipation it was desirable that the people of this country should not only consider the cause but the remedy to remove that cause. Now corn was at a 2s. Bd. duty, and all imported that day must pay 2s. Bd. a quarter ; but just to show the absurdity of this sliding scale, how it worked, and what mischief it did, he had no hesitation in saying that to-morrow the duty would 10s. Bd. That was a fact generally known, and all those who did not take corn out of bond that day, would have to pay 10s. Bd. a quarter. That was not all either ; as the case went on, the worse it was. It was also highly probable that on the 14th October the duty would be 21s. Bd., and that on the 21st it would be 225. Bd. per quarter. He had hitherto spoken of the question as a national one ; but if there was one place in the kingdom where they ought more particularly to advocate freedom of trade to the greatest extent, it was tI4 port of South ampton.—(Cheers.) Of what use would be their com mercial docks, the river Itchen, their splendid and capa cious quays, unless there were ships, and trade to be carried on ? If the Government were resolved to cripple commerce, there could not be that extent of trade car ried on at Southampton that there would otherwise be. It was desirable, therefore, not only in a national point of view, but as inhabitants of Southampton, that they should do all they could to procure an alteration in the Corn and Provision-laws, and then they would see the quays and streets swarming, if he might so express him self, with horned cattle, sheep, and pigs ; and ships at their quays unloading butter, cheese, and all the neces saries of life, which were now prohibited ; and the con sequence would be, that Southampton would become the great inlet for these articles, and a state of great prospe rity, which they all desired to see, would ensue. The MAYOR put the resolution, which was carried unanimously. Mr. POLLARD, a working man, then rose, and went into arguments in favour of household suffrage, vote by ballot, and triennial Parliaments, and proposed a resolu tion in favour of these measures. Mr. PIERCE seconded the resolution. No opposition was made to it, and, on its being put from the Chair, it was carried with only one dissentient. The Rev. T.ADItiNs rose to propose the next reso lution—" That the laws of this country which restrict or limit the supply of the necessaries of life are produc tive of great international evils, especially in reference to t'_:.e industrious classes of the community." Corn, continued the Rev. Gentleman, was the most common, as well as hardy of the productions of the earth. It grows with almost equal vigour amidst the snows of Siberia, and in the heat of a tropical sun. It is found wherever man has planted his foot, and where any vege table production can exist. Let them look back to Tyre 'end Sidon, maritime cities, Attica and Corinth the same, and in more modern times Venice. Those cities never grew grain enough to supply the thousandth part of their population, and were ttey afraid of starvation? They launched their vessels on the bosom of the deep, mere boats compared to our gallant vessels. They tra versed the deep and visited every shore, and brought in return for their merchandise all the varied productions the earth affords. They were never haunted by the idea of famine. They knew if they went to other marts with their merchandise, the people they traded with would be willing to pay them with the productions of their country in return. Thus, from these facts might have been derived principles of legislative wisdom, but he was sorry to see that after the lapse of 1,000 years, in what some had ventured to conceive was the Athens of the moral and intellectual world, those lessons had been lost sight of hear.) He concluded an elo quent address by proposing the resolution. Seconded by J. R. KEELS, Esq., and carried unani mously. It was then proposed by Mr. W. LANIIESTEE, se conded by Captain BOWYER, RN., and carried unani mously, " That this meeting is severely disappointed at the apparent determination of her Majesty's present Go vernment not to allow any consideration or discussion of the Corn and Provision-laws during the present Session of Parliament." The memorial to her Majesty was proposed by Mr. R. ANDREWS, seconded by S. CHAPLIN, Esq., and carried unanimously. Thanks were then voted to the Chairman, and the meeting separated. DEVONPORT.—STATE OF THE COUNTRY. THURSDAY, SEPT. 29.—A public meeting was held last evening at the Town-hall, pursuant to a requisition signed by several members of the Town Council, for the purpose of taking into consideration " the propriety of addressing her Majesty and both Houses of Parliament on the subject of the Corn-laws, and on the important duties in general." The hall was crowded. E. Abbott, Esq., the Mayor, presided. G. LEACH, Esq., moved the address to her Majesty. He read an extract from the speech of the Duke of Buckingham, at the Buckingham agricultural meet ing, and alluded to the declaration of the Duke of Rich mond in the House of Lords, that if Sir R. Peel pre sumed to meddle with the Corn-laws, they, the landed aristocracy, would turn him out, as they had turned out Lord Melbourne. He would maintain that a more arrogant speech than this—a more insulting threat, both to the Throne and the people — had never been uttered in either House of Parliament. It amounted to a declaration that the Queen's Minister, be he who he might, should not hold the reins of Govern ment but so iona as he was their tool and their slave.— (Cheers.) He adduced the speeches of Lord Stanley and Sir James Graham, as further grounds for with holding confidence from the Government of Sir R. Peel. C. TRIPE, Esq., seconded the address, which was sup ported by several other gentlemen. The speakers were interrupted, and the business of the meeting several times suspended, by the violence of a body of Tory partizans at the lower end of the hall. They moved, as an amendment, that the address be considered that day six months, which, on the show of hands, was negatived by a very large majority. The ad dress, when signed, is to be forwarded to the Duke of Sussex for presentation. The prevailing feeling of the meeting was one of strong dissatisfaction with the policy of the Ministry, and distrust of its members, a feeling that is daily increasing among all classes in thi s borough-. SUNDERLAND. On Wednesday morning a requisition was presented to R. White, Esq., the Mayor of Sunderland, requestin g him to call a public mee tin g of the inhabitants of this borough, for the purpose of considering the p ro p r i ety o f memorialising the Queen. The requisition was signed by upwards of one hundred persons, many of them con nected with the principal mercantile and manufacturing firms in the borough, ship-owners, and tradesmen, and also gentlemen of all political parties. His Worship, the Mayor, has appointed the meeting to be held in the Athenaeum this day. KENTISH-TOWN. A public meeting of the inhabitants of Kentish-town was held on Thursday evening at the Assembly-room, to take into consideration the propriety of memorialising her Majesty not to prorogue Parliament until the Coin laws berfully investigated, with_ the view to the adoption of such remedial measures as shall ameliorate the condi tion of the suffering poor. The large room was crowded THE SUN, LONDON, MONDAY, OCTOBER 4, is4i., Dr. Bowring was voted to the Chair. PETER TAILOR, Esq., jun., proposed the first resolu tion. The young men of London now appeared as an association for the purpose of contributing their efforts to the great cause of free trade. He concluded by pro posing a resolution, which Mr. PRESTON seconded, and was unanimously carried. Mr. GOODLIFFE proposed the second resolution, which Mr. FOSTER seconded. A memorial was then adopted, after which the meet ing adjourned at a late hour. ANTI-BREAD TAX CONFERENCE IN WALES. (From the Carnarvon HeraU.) On Tuesday evening last a meeting was held in the Guildhall of this town, to take into consideration the propriety of having a Conference of Ministers, held in Carnarvon, of a similar nature to the one held in Man chester, in August last. The Chair was taken at seven o'clock, by Mr. W. G. Thomas, architect. The Chairman called on Mr. Walter Griffith, Anti- Corn-law Lecturer, to explain the object of the meeting. That Gentleman commenced by giving a brief account of the Anti-Corn-law movements during the last three years. He gave a short sketch of the late Conference at Manchester, with the effects already produced, and those likely to be further produced, by the said meeting. There could be no doubt, he said, but that the Weiss.: ministers felt strongly on behalf of their oppressed fe low-countrymen ; and would agitate, to the best of their ability, for the repeal of an impost so injurious and oppressive as the existing Corn-law. The object of the ministers of the gospel at Carnarvon, in calling this meeting together, was to ascertain the feeling of the town respecting a Ministerial Con ference. They considered such a meetinc , quite neces sary, and they hoped they would meet with every eneoup ragement from their fellow-townsmen. He considered the doom of the bread-tax sealed, since the cause of re peal was taken in hand by Gospel ministers. What but the efforts of the religious part of the community had been the means of abolishing slavery? and nothing but the efforts of Christians will effectually destroy mono poly. He had often wished the Welsh ministers to be forward in this great cause, and it gave him great plea sure to see them now coming forward so nobly. The Rev. I. W. GIrIFFITII, Baptist minister, said they had come together on the present occasion because they felt for the thousands that were starving around them. to suffocation. John Moor, Esq., was called to the Chair Mr. SOMERS moved the first resolution, to the effect that the depression of trade, and consequent suffering which prevails throughout the country, through the ope ration of the laws which lay a tax upon food, are exten sive and increasing. The resolution was not difficult to prove. It included two points agreed to by all—namely, that there was misery in the country, and that .it was both extensive and increasing. —(Hear, hear.) Even in their neighbourhood, they felt the Corn-law's iron grasp. —(Hear, near.) He knew individuals who worked from three o'clock in the morning till ten o'clock at night, and only earned seven shillings a week to support themselves and, families. Last week a case came under his notice of a family who had not tasted food for two days.— (Hear, hear.) But, to take a larger survey, England, Scotland, Ireland, and Wales.presented one picture of misery. In Scotland it had been proved that the prac tice existed of mixing bran with the oatmeal. In Wales similar similar scenes existed ; but in Ireland they were impossible to be described.—(Hear.) It had been stated at the Manchester Conference, that the privations of the British poor were comparative comfort when contrasted with those of the peasantry of Ireland, and to the truth of that heecould bear his personal testimony. Even in Dublin he had observed in the streets whole families, and the only garment they had to cover them was the large grey cloak so much worn in that country. Mr. Somers then went into the details of the distress men tioned in the House of Commons by Mr. Sharman Craw ford and other Hon. Members. The distress throughout the whole of England was derived from one and the same cause, namely, the tax upon food.—(Hear, hear.) They might justly ask how they came by these Corn laws ? It was true they were passed by the House of Commons ; but was that House of Commons the repre sentative of the people ?—(Cheers, and cries of " No.") The signatures to the petitions against the passing of the Corn-laws were 1,638,000 more than those to the peti tions in its favour. So great was the hurry to get the Bill passed into a law, that, although a public meeting was summoned to petition the Crown not to sign it, it was hurried through both Houses, and received the .Royal signature before the meeting could be held. It was asserted that the Corn-law benefited the agritul turists. But it appeared the expenditure of a farm in 1775, before the Corn-law, was 17CL, while in 1831 the expenditure of the same farm was 45CL That showed the amonnt of protection which the agriculturist derived from the Corn-law.—(Hear, hear.) Sir Robert Peel admitted that distress existed, but said that hereafter it should have his solemn consideration ; so that 2,000,000 or 3,000,000 of human beings, on the verge of starva tion, were to wait till Sir Robert Peel could say what he could do for them. When so many now could not tell where to get bread, what would it be in the coming winter? He looked with the most fearful anticipations to the future.—(Hear.) Mr. BRYAN seconded the resolution. The resolution was then put, and carried unanimously. Mr. BRABY moved the next resolution, to the effect " That the distresses of the country call for a prompt and efficacious remedy," and deprecated the postpone ment of their consideration. Mr. SMITH seconded the resolution. If not prepared with a plan for the relief of the country, Sir Robert Peel ought not to have taken office.—(Loud cheers.) In ordinary business what would they say to a man who had been knocking at their door fur months and de manding employment, and when they had admitted him and desired him to turn to and work, he, instead of doing so, was to make a low bow, and say, " Please, Sir, lam not prepared ?"—(Laughter.) Such a thing would be ludicrous in small matters, but in great it was awful. The Ministry had no right to accept the seals of office if not prepared to do the duty.—(Cheers.) Sir Charles Napier, M.P., Dr. Bowling, M.P., Mr. Yorke, M.P., and other gentlemen, here entered the room, and were received with the most enthusiastic cheering. Mr. HINE opposed the motion, and was pushed off the platform. He made his way back again, and insisted upon being heard. Great uproar ensued. Mr. Hine declared, in a stentorian voice, that they (the opponents of the present Ministry) advocated an Bs. duty,whereas they were only paying ls. duty. Dr. BOWRING said it was only Is. a quarter when at a starvation price. Mr. Hine was again pushed off the platform, and great uproar ensued. Sir CHARLES NAPIER, M.P., with difficulty obtained a hearing. If he held any influence over them they would hear the gentleman till midnight, and he would undertake to reply to him.—(Loud cheers.) Mr. HINE was then heard. The Rev. Mr. GARNET triumphantly replied to it., The resolution was then p u t an d carr i e d, on ly ne hand being held up against it. Sir CHARLES NAPIER came forward, amidst enthusias tic cheering, to move the next resolution :—" That we present a dutiful and loyal memorial to her Majesty, praying her not to allow the present Parliament to be prorogued until the state of the country be fully investigated, with a view to such remedial measures as shall ameliorate the condition of our suffering fel low-subjects." The resolution was a very proper one to be moved and carried ; but he could not give them any flatterin g hopes that it would be successful in its object. The present Ministers had declared most decidedly that they would not assent to the wishes of the people.—(Cries of " Shame.") It was disgrace ful that they should accept office and not be prepared to adopt some remedial measures, especially as related to the duties on corn, sugar, and timber. By the perseve rance of gentlemen on his side of the House. Sir-Robert Peel, although he came with the intention of being silent, had been forced to speak out.—(Cheers.) They had driven out the late Ministers, and were not prepared to propose any measures themselves.—(Cries of " Shame.") Sir Robert Peel had told them distinctly that the poor must go through all the rigours of the winter to give him time for consideration. The late Ministry were prepared with measures of relief, but he (Sir Robert Peel) had none, and yet he had driven them out of office,—(Cries of " Shame.") He (Sir Charles Napier) had not de clared his opinion in the House of Commons yet on the Corn Question, but he would take that opportunity of asserting that the Corn-laws were among the worst that ever existed.—(Loud cheers.) The gentle man who had just addressed them had said that corn was lately admitted at a duty of ls., but he would ask whether, if it had not been for Sir Robert's sliding scale, corn would ever have got up to 86s. a quarter?—(Cheers.) Had there been a fixed duty such a thing would never have happened.—(Loud cheers.) From inquiries he had made amongst the labourers in his own part of the country, he believed they could live very well when corn was from 50s. to 555. When corn was at that price they could manage to get through life very well. The labourers then had 12s. a week, and when corn was about 50s. a quarter they could live, but when it reached 865., as it was at present, they had no means of living. They could not economise in any other way than by lessening the quantity of bread necessary for their daily subsistence. If the luxuries in which the rich man indulged were to rise as suddenly in price as corn, he might give them up or borrow money at his banker's till the duty fell again, but the poor man could not do that. The shopkeeper would not trust him, and he had no other mode than by diminishing the quan tity of bread consumed by himself and family. Then, as to the interest of the country in general. Large specula tors were ever on the watch. They had thousands of quarters on hand ; and suppose that he (Sir C. Napier) was a merchant, living in Egypt or Poland, or any other corn-growing country, and observing that corn was high in England, would ship a cargo of corn for this country ; so great were the fluctuations of corn in this country that the probability would be, if the ship was detained by contrary winds, that a duty of perhaps 30s. would be laid on the corn in the interval. The merchant loses by this speculation, and he says " I'll send no more. I'll see the people of England starving first."—(Cheering.) Dr. Bownisto, in seconding the resolution, begged to confirm the opinion just expressed by their Gallant Re presentative (Sir C. Napier), that there were but slight grounds to hope for any measure of relief for the sufferirg poor from her Majesty's Government. They seemed de termined to put off the consideration of the Corn-laws, although distress of the most aggravated character was accumulating from day to day.—(Hear.) It was owing to unjust and unwise legislation that the people wanted bread. It was in vain to expect the House of Commons to do anything till they 'were made uneasy ir. their seats by that agitation which they so much deprecated. He begged to remind them that they (the Liberal Members) were helpless in the House of Commons unless the peo ple came to their assistance. You must (continued the Hon. Member emphatically) come to our assistance out of the House of Commons. The remainder of the sentence was lost in a deep response of united cheering, mingled with loud cries of" We will." The Hon. Gentleman re peated his cordial assent to the resolution, and sat down amidst great applause. The CHAIRMAN put the resolution, and it was carried by acclamation. A memorial to the Queen, praying her Majesty not to prorogue Parliament till the Corn-laws had been con sidered, was then read. Mr. YORKE, M.P. for York, at the requeet of the meeting, came forward to move the adoption of the memorial. The Rev. Mr. GARNEY seconded the adoption of the memorial. The CHAIRMAN put the motion, and it was carried unanimously. The memorial received a great number of signatures on the spot. MARYLEBONE. A public meeting of the inhabitants of Christ Church, Marylebone, was held on Friday evening at the Lord High Admiral, Church-street, Lisson-grove, to hear a lecture on the Corn-laws from Mr. Sidney Smith, and to memorialise the Queen. Mr. Surrn intimated that he had an interview with the Earl of Radnor and Lord Kinnaird in the early part of the day, and their Lordships had consented to go down to Windsor, and present the vas; number of memo rials to her Majesty which had been forwarded to the Metropolitan Anti-Corn-law Association from all parts of the empire. The memorial received a vast number of signatures on the spot. MARYLEBONE RECTORY. A meeting of the inhabitants of, this district took place at the Queen's Head High-street, on Thursday evening to memorialise her Majesty against the proro gation of Parliament. The meeting was then adjourned to Friday, October 8. ST. GEORGE'S IN THE EAST. A meeting of the inhabitants of this vicinity was held on Thursday evening to memorialize her Majesty, which adjourned until Thursday next, when it is proposed that a lecture be delivered. YOUNG MEN'S METROPOLITAN ANTI-310N0- POLY ASSOCIATION. A most numerous and respectable meeting of this As sociation took place last night at South-place chapel, Finsbury square, for the purpose of memorialising her Majesty not . to prorogue Parlianient. Notwithstanding the extreme wetness of the evening, the chapel was crowded to overflowing. • There was great distress . in Carnarvon, which ministers of the Gospel had particular opportunities of witnessing ; and if such was the state of Carnarvon, what must the state of the whole country be? The great object was 01 give adequate means of expresSion to t.'!e popular detestation of the existing bread-tax. It would then soon fall. The oppressed must break the chains of oppression ; the oppressor never will. It was thought about last May, that things would soon come better, but now darkness again surrounds us. Yet, although the majority in Parliament are monopolists, the ministers of Christ feel for the poor, and are determined, if possible, to fill the hungry with food. The bread-tax is anti-Scriptural and unjust; it is a violation of the commandment, " Love thy neigh bour as thyself." It " muzzles the mouth of the ox." There is n - ) real scarcity in any article of food : all the mischief arises from bad legislation. There is plenty of corn left to rot in foreign countries, while the poor in Britain are starving. There is no broad-tax in any country except in Britain. Some people talk about being independent of foreigners, hut such independence is an impossibility- Besides, Britain would have no need to fear of famine, if she never raised any corn. The bread-tax is pregnant with misery and death. It is useless to expect any reform by ;eying, "If you please." The people must arrest good from the mono polists. The popular voice broke the chains of the negro, and the popular voice must detroy the food-tax. There are many ready to blame ministers for meddling with politics, but I Lay to them, in the words of Mr. Black burne, of London, " Ministers meddle with politics only when politics meddle with religion." Through the ef forts of the religious community, and the blessings of God, monopoly will be destroyed. Mr. W. P. SMITFI observed, that the present Corn-laws are unjust, immoral, and unchristian, and that it was the duty of Christian ministers to use all their influence to procure the repeal of such tyrannical and irreligious enactments. He proved from the word of God that it is the duty of ministers to be foremost in the moral strife against every social evil ; and that it is their duty to care for the temporal happiness of their flocks, as well as for their spiritual condition ; teaching the people to obey the laws, and the Legislature to rule in righteousness. It was as much their duty to instruct the Legislature in the laws of Christianity, as it was to unfold the blessings of the Gospel to the people. The Rev. W. Winuaals, Independent minister, said that Christian ministers were watchmen, and unless they cared for the temporal condition of the poor, they did not watch honestly. He could not believe that a minis ter cared for a poor man's soul, while he was indifferent to his temporal welfare. The apostle John says, "If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?" There are some people who are filled with plenty them selves. yet never feel for others who are in the greatest. misery I Yet distress and misery were rife throughout the country. In one town there were 136 living upon 6d. per head per week, 291 upon 10i-d. per head per week, 508 upon ls. per head per week, 1,885 upon Is. 6d. per head per week, 1,500 upon ls. 9d. per head per week, and 812 upon 2s. 2d. per head per week. Five sixths of the whole had hardly a blanket to cover them ; eighty-five families were without any 'blankets, whilst forty-seven families were sleeping on chaff beds and wood shavings. This country had always been in distress since the Corn-laws were passed. Countries are as de ' pendent on each other as are individuals. One country produces tea, another coffee, sugar, &c. ; another copper, lead, slates, &c. ; another silk, &c. ; and it was by in terchange alone that each become possessed of the en joyments of the other. Trade, therefore, ought to be free. The sliding scale ruins commerce. It is a gam bling concern—it cheats the country. God has given an inheritance to the poor, viz, his hands, eyes, ears, &c., and he commanded ie Israelites, saying : "And when ye reap the harvest of your . land, thou shalt not - make clean riddance of the corners of thy field when thou reapest, neither shalt thou gather any gleaning of thy harvest ; thou shalt leave them tinter the poor and the stranger. lam the Lord your God." - But the poor in this country are not al lowed to enjoy their inheritance. The Corn-laws ope rate very injuriously on the shipping interest. Formerly, many shipping vessels used to winter in this port. They earned enough in summer time to keep them at home all winter ; but now they are compelled to labour hard summer and winter, and to go out in all sorts of weather to get a little bread for their hungry families. Giving parochial aid to the working man is only like throwing a piece of bread to a dog while he is fastened to a chain. Let us have free trade, then our working population will be fully employed, and there will be no need for work houses. Some people are very fond of giving charity, for the sake of keeping the poor dependent upon them, and making them serfs to themselves. The Corn-law is a yoke of iron, and we are no better than slaves under such infamous enactments. 'We are well aware that there is much opposition to us in this cause, but we ought not to care for that ; we know that God is fur us. All laws restricting the food of the community are violations of the law of the Most High. In the days of that wise King, Solomon, there was free trade between him and Hiram, the King of Tyre. Hiram gave Solomon cedar trees, and Solomon gave Hiram wheat for food; and there was peace between them. The most effective thing to set countries at variance are restrictive laws respecting food. Free trade is peace. Our beloved country is involved in distress and misery. The distress is not temporary, but has continued for a long time; and its root is the bread tax. There are many in this town who suffer privations beyond description; yet these sufferers are honest, sober, and willing to work. The Corn-law is a barrier on the progress of education. It prevents the poor man from educating his children as he would wish. If the poor man's children are to receive any education at all they must be . sent to the national schools, although the chief object of these schools is to generate respect in the minds of young people to the state church, and thus make them supports of the worst of all monopolies—the monopoly of religion. We have been many of the state parsons very busy in giving clothes, &c., away to the poor; but this is done in order to draw the attention of the needy from the real cause of their distress. If these men cared for the poor, why did they do all in their power at the late elections to send monopolists to Parliament? They did all they could to send men to Parliament that were pledged to the starvation system. Such cha rity as the charity of these men, is but like cutting the branches of a tree while the root is still left. It is to make themselves popular at other people's expense. The wise and good Creator has furnished man with the means to be. independent, had wicked laws left him fair play. 11 3 Rev. J. BRYAN, Wesleyan Methodist, said, had he been in Manchester at the time of the Conference, he would have been present at that meeting. He was sorry to fit .d the names of only two ministers belonging to his connexion at that meeting ; but he knew it was owing to a resolution adopted by their body some time ago, not to meddle with politics, and not from any indifference to the cause of the suffering poor. Who should be first labouring in the cause of the poor but their ministers ? Most of them had arisen from amongst the poor ; and they knew the sufferings of the poor ; they, therefore, ought to be forward in this righteous cause. The vene rable gentleman concluded a most pathetic speech, by wishing the cause God speed. The meeting was most numerously attended, and the speeches were received throughout with enthusiastic cheers. The following resolutions were unanimously adopted : 1. That the present state of the country loudly calls for the serious consideration of the Ministers of the Gospel. 2. That this meeting regards with great satisfaction the efforts made to have a Conference in Manchester, together with the proceedings of the Ministers in that Conference ; and are of opinion that a similar Confer ence ovollt to be held in Carnarvon , at t he latter end of November, T h a t this and meetingthe beginning pledgeso i f Decemb er itself to d nest. xatli in its 3. power to further the good and humane objects of such a Conference. Old customs, it seems, still prevail in Flanders. riage, a f e w days ago, of a wealthy ge ntleman, at the A letter from Douai states , that , on occasion of a ntar- Chateau de Gwuslin, tables were set out for all the in habitants of the village, and the soldiers stationed there ; and at the fourteen public-houses of the village refresh ments were offered at the expense of the newly-married couple. The apartments and gardens of the chateau were thrown open to visitors, ba ll s were g iven at different spots, and a running match of a ll the old wo men of the village, above sixty, too k place for a prize of a crucif ix in gold. NEW THEATRICAL VOCALIST.—Amongst the de&uts that will take place during the approaching theatrical season will be that of Mr. W. 11, 6eguin,, fa vourably known as a concert 'singer. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. MANSION-HOUSE.' Mr. Thorpe, a landing-waiter in her Majesty's Cus toms, was brought before the Lord Mayor On Saturday under the follo.ving circumstances : Joseph Pollard (Policeman 592) stated, that as he was on duty in Thames-street, the defendant, whose coat was soiled as he passed along from the wheels of a cart, called out to hins and accused him of not doing or knowing his duty. Witness expostulated with him, and represented the impropriety, oc ,using accusations of the kind ; but the defendant persevered in charging him with neglect of duty in not preventing the crowding of carts and other vehicles, and a mob having gathered, he found it neces s'iry to convey him to the station-house, Mr. Thorpe, who, appeared to be an extremely mild and gentleman-like man, said that as he and a friend were passing through Thames-street, the way was completely blocked up with carts; and he (defendant) was forced against the wall, and placed in a dangerous situation. He remonstrated with the policeman, who, however, in stead of interfering to clear the way, which was quite practicable, was excessively insolent, and took him (de fendant) into custody—a very disagreeable dilemma to be placed in after the labouis of the day. Mr. James Hastings, also a landing-waiter in her Ma jesty's Customs, stated that he was with his friend Mr. Thorpe when 'he occurrence took place. A cart and horse ran actually across the foot-way, and Mr. Thorpe spoke to the policeman to remove the nuisance. The policeman replied in an impertinent manner that he was the best judge of his own duty, and that Mr. Thorpe had better exchange coats with him. Again Mr. Thorpe re monstrated with the policeman, who then said he would take Mr. Thorpe to the station-house, and carried his threat into execution. As for the mob of which the policeman spoke, if a few passers by stopped from curi osity to ascertain how .the affair would end could be called a mob, there certainly was one. The LORD MA.YOR—The policeman has been evidently wrong in this case. Who could blame a gentleman for remonstrating with any person who had'a badge of au thority upon him, upon seeing the street in the way de scribed ? When a cart and horse are across a pavement, what could be more reasonable than for a gentleman to say to a policeman, " Why do you not remove this nui sance?" What can you say, policeman, in justification or palliation of such conduct? The policeman said that what Mr. Thorpe had stated was false. The LORD MAYOR said that the defendant was borne out in everything ho said by the gentleman who accom panied him, and calmly witnessed the whole proceeding. The policeman is certainly reprehensible, and I advise the gentleman who was taken to the station-house to ap ply to the City Police Commissioner, who, I have no doubt, will teach the man to do his duty better. Mr. Thorpe—lt is just what I intend to do, my Lord. I think it necessary to mention to your Lordship, that when he took me into custody he ordered me to walk with him ; I did so, and as we went along he endeavoured to aggravate me to assault him by pushing me, and saying "Go on, fellow." I appeal to my friend whether this is not the fact ? Mr. Hastings—Certainly it is. His conduct was gross in the extreme. The LORD Msroa—Well, Sir, I, of course, discharge the case ; and I by all means advise you to apply to the City Police Commissioner on the subiect. GUILDHALL. On Saturday, a person of respectable appearance, who said his name was Samuel Hardinge, the secretary to the United Kingdom Anti• Teetotal Society, formed to defend the temperate use of wine, beer, and spirits, was brought up in custody of Roe, the city officer, charged with conspiring with a deceased clergyman, to 'defraud Mr. Walton, the jeweller in Ludgate-street. Mr. HUMPHREYS, who attended on behalf of the prose cutor, stated the nature of the case, and called Mr. Walton, who deposed that about the middle of January, 1839, the prismier, who then called himself Stanley Hardinge Harborough, came in company with a clergy man, the Rev. E. 11. Barker, to his shop to , look at a pearl claw pin and chain. He showed the prisoner one at seven guineas, for which he agreed to give 71., - bet said as he was rather short of money he would leave 51. on account and pay the remainder in the course of a week. He then wished to see some handsome gold watches, and after looking over a number he selected a hunter at 281. He then said, " Well, I'll tell you what I will do, Mr. Walton ; I will give you 10/., and pay the remainder to- morrow week." The clergyman immediately said. "You may safely trust my friend, Mr. Harborough. He will pay you duly. I know him well." Witness replied that, depending on Mr. Barker's assurance, he would give him credit to that time. Mr. Harborough then looked out a waistcoat pocket chain and key, value 2/. 55., which he was to pay for with the rest. He also ordered a gold guard chain to match, at about ten guineas, to be ready in a few days. The prisoner took 15/. from what appeared to be a roll of notes amounting to 200/., paid it off the account, amounting to 371., re ceived the articles, and promised to bring the balance, 22/., when he called for the guard chain. The next day, however, he came again, and ordered a brooch to be sent to his lodgings in Jermyn-street, saying that he expected in the interim to receive some cash from his solicitor, and to be enabled to send witness some money. The boy who delivered the brooch brought back a note from the pri soner that his solicitor had disappointed him. Witness had been unable to meet with him from that time. He had received notes promising payment. He subsequently discovered that the prisoner had been detained in White cross •street prison for four months in 1838—that the clergyman had recently emerged from the Fleet, and that the watch and chain were pawned. Mr. Alderman HUMPHERY observed it was very indis creet to give credit to strangers, whatever representation they might make. Mr. HUMPHREYS replied, that the exhibition of the heavy roll of notes, first to give 51, then 101. more, dazzled.his client. Mr. Walton said, the clergyman had called a fortnight before, to get a watch repaired. They conversed about Cambridge and scientific matters, and, being satisfied the clergyman was a learned man, he concluded he would net be a rogue. Roe, the officer, stated . that Mr. Walton, having re ceived an anonymous note that the prisoner would be found at the Anti-Teetotal Institution, Lambrook court, Basinghall•street, he went with a pretended note of invitation to give a lecture, and when he obtained an interview with the secretary, took him into custody. He found in his possession some duplicates for trifling pledges, some letters addressed to him in Buxton-street, Goswell-road, and an invoice of 271. worth of goods /obtained from a Mr. Wigan, of Birmingham. Mr. Alderman HUMPTIERY, remarking that these goods had been obtained over a month ago, asked him whether they had been paid for 7—Prisoner said they had, by a bill which was not yet due. The ALDERMAN then called upon the prisoner to answer the charge. - _ _ _ Prisoner said he used the name of Harborough be cause he had been using it for years in France He in tended to pay for the jewellery, but was unable to do so. He had offered to pay a further part, but Mr. Walton would have either all or none. He admitted that he pawned the watch, and some friend sold the ticket to Ruthven, formerly of Bow-street. He obtained only 81. for the watch. Mr. HUMPHREYS prayed that the prisoner might be remanded for further examination. The prisoner was remanded till Frida. next. MARLBOROUGH-STREET. Two warrants, of a very remarkable nature, are in course of execution by the police. The first relates to the well-known Mr. Gundry, of the Albany, against whom a warrant has been out upwards of three weeks, for as saulting the housekeeper of a gentleman resident in the Albany. Mr. Gundry has completely set the police and the law at defiance. He has in.a manner made a regular fortification of his house, and has engaged a number of rough fellows to keep watch at the door, and to prevent any attempt of the police to capture him. Mr. Gundry has had his street door furnished with a new chain, and he will only allow the door to be opened by himself, when his meals are brought to him from a neighbouring tavern. One of his chief myrmidons is a sweeper of a crossing, who has abdicated his broom, and now struts in a fine livery, provided by Mr. Gundry. Mr. Gundry's trustworthy body-guard was sent with a 5/. note some days back to get changed ; the man has found his task so difficult that he has not as yet made his appearance. The proceedings of the men hired by Mr. Gundry— drinking and smoking short pipes in the place—have created a good deal of dissatisfaction, and some of the gentry hare applied to the secretary, Mr. Luxmore, on the subject ; but Mr. Luxmore appears to be unable to put an end to the nuisance. As Mr. Gundry is supposed to be well-armed, and has more than once threatened violence to any one who attempts to take him into cus tody, the affair is, of course, considered a matter of some hazard, and this may account for the inability of the police to make the caption. A relation of Mr. Gitndry. it is understood, has it in contemplation to make such further inquiries as will serve to show the real state of the mind of this eccentric gentleman. The second warrant is of a graver character. An in dividual of station, said to be a Nobleman, stands charged with having violated a respectable girl, under circum stances of great atrocity. The police have been in ac tive search of the offender for upwards of a week, but as yet have not succeeded in doing anything effectual. The particulars of the alleged outrage, as far as they have transpired, seemed to be that the Nobleman, under an assumed character, introduced himself to the friends of his victim. About a fortnight ago he persuaded the young lady to accompany him to the theatre. Before the play was over, he persuaded her to return home with him in a hackney-coach. The coachman having received in structions, drove to a house and set his fare down. The young lady, finding she was in a strange place, screamed loudly. She was immediately overpowered, and forcibly abused. In the morning she was placed in a cab, and, according to instructions to the driver, driven about for some hours, and then set down. She communicated what had occurred to her friends, who immediately pro cured a warrant, and a clue was at last obtained of the name and rank of the offender. Some delay is under stood to have taken place, from the impossibility of find ing the hackney-coachman and cab-driver ; but in a case of serious nature, if a trifling reward will procure the requisite inform a ti on , and there is every reason to believe that the evidence cannot be obtained unless a re ward is offered, there should be no difficulty on that point. UNION-HALL. Edward Tomlins, who described himself as " a gen tleman," was brought before Mr. Traill, charged with assaulting an undertaker under the following circular stances Mr. William Dunkly stated that he was an underta ker, and lived in Tower-street, Lambeth. Between two and three o'clock that morning he and his family were roused from their beds by loud and continued knocking at the street-door. When he louked out of the window he saw the defendant and four other men, and on ask ing them what they wanted at that hour of . the morning, the reply was, " We want you to do a black job, N Undertaker—You heard that your friend died of the cholera, and you wanted him to be "buried without de lay ? Defendant—l don't remember. .Mr. TRAILL—Then it appears that you entirely lost your recollection on the occasion ? Defendant—lf I attempted to practise such a hoax when I was drunk I am sorry for it, and will take care it shall not occur again. The undertaker said that for the last three years si milar tricks had been played upon him, and he now requested that an example might be made to deter others. The defendant begged hard for forgiveness, saying " that when the liquor was in the wit was out," but the Magistrate was inexorable, and inflicted a penalty of 40s. upon him, or in default, 21 days' imprisonment. POLICE COMMITTEE, GUILDHALL. THE LICENSED VICTUALLERS . AND THE POLICE. For some time past the police in the city have been threatening the licensed victuallers with an information under the Police Act, that if they receive prostitutes within their doors, they "wilfully- and knowingly har bour persons of notoriously bad character," and are guilty of the penalty imposed by the Act in such cases. The present case was that of Ralph Thomas Fellowes, of the Green Dragon, Fleet-street, summoned by a police man, who stated that on Monday night, about half-past twelve, he heard a noise, scuffling, and ,(apparently) fighting in the defendant's house, and a short time after: wards he saw seventeen prostitutes and twelve men turned out of the house. Alderman JOHNSON—How do you know they were prostitutes ? Policeman—By their walking on my beat. Upon cross-examination by Mr. NOBLER, the policeman said he believed Mr. Fellowes did urge the people to leave his house, and he acknowledged that other houses in the neighbourhood were kept open as late as that of Mr. Fellowes ; he admitted that all the parties were quiet and orderly in coming out, and he did not know that any of them had been convicted of felony. Alderman 'HOOPER said that was not necessary ; per sons might be of notoriously bad character without having been convicted of felony. Mr. Nobler submitted that there was no law to prevent prostitutes from being supplied with refreshments, and no law to compel licensed victuallers to close at any par ticular time ; and it ought not to be left to the judgment of policenien whether their customers were of good cha racter or not, nor could the charge of harbouring " noto riously bad characters" be maintained unless there had been a conviction, Mr. Fellowes, in his defence, stated that he invariably closed his house at twelve o'clock, and cleared it at half pas t twelve. Alderman JOHNSON—But if this house is frequented by those who are known to be street-walkers, they are certainly of notoriously bad character. Mr. NOBLER contended that they must have been convicted of some offence, in order to establish such a position ; and, said Mr. Nobler (emphatically), " I thank God there is at present no law to prevent these unfortu• nate women from obtaining refreshments." The ALDERMEN (Messrs. Johnson and Hooper), after consulting for a short time, decided upon inflicting a penalty of 405., thus establishing the principle that licensed victuallers in the city of London are not allowed to serve prostitutes, if even they conduct themselves orderly. We see no reason, as yet, to aba ndon tie hope . of braining from the Conservative Ministry considefai!.4o and valuable amendments, in points of detaq, could not have been obtained from their predec ess° r e But, even upon this head, much that was unsatisfacto fell from the Home Secretary in the course of speech. He went out of his way to express his coi?, dence in the Poor-law Commissioners credit for them, as for a rneritorous acti"'ti" cause they have at last begun to discontinue . scandalous evasion with which they have hitherto orde i r g ; suited the Legislature in the matter of gener al And. he represented their amended prohibitory oruv • than which they themselves state to be more le • strictsve that for which it has been substituted, as " a m ost portant relaxation." We fear Sir James Graham bac. strong taint of Whige-ery about him still. He nut) : pend upon it that the country participates in the vie and th 2 1,.% expressed by Mr. Grimsditch on Monday, will fail to give satisfaction if he surrenders his (we shrew 0.1 went into the hands of functionaries who ha clainsbl el tro' ; t suspect) place no confidence whatever in him. said Mr. Grimsditch," that in any Bid which the Hon. Baronet may bring in on this subject, he wi i ors , t rely .upon information which emanates from S an — e of house, but will form his opinions from th e experienc others, and from other sta l liemente f u rther Having said thus much, we shall reserve the °- expression of our opinion upon the conduct of thesce vernment with reference to this question , till sve i n the next Session what they actually mean to cle• f ind meantime, though they have disappointed lis'eri,,es though we think they have committed a most s„bieets error of judgment, we cannot forget tha t upon slcif,"nee, of general policy they are entitled to o ur con" fr;,ni and that htthaatnefvreonm their adlrs Iponthi.eswaeriehs.asve more to hop e them come down." He thought they wanted to hoax him a! first, and desired them to ~ .To about their business, and not be disturbing the inhabitants ; but they refused to go, and declared that they called for the purpose of giv ing hint an order for a funeral, and insisted that he should come down and take their directions on the sul). jest. Although the hour was unseasonable for the transaction of such business, yet, on their as surance that they wanted an immediate interview, with him on " professional business," he accordingly slipped on his breeches, and descended to the door, when the five strangers entered, and defendant, addressing bin , again, alluded to the purport of their visit, and added, that the funeral must take place without delay. "Pray,' said the undertaker, may I ask the name and place o! residence of the deceased ?" " Oh, yes," answered the , defendant, his name is " Snooks," and he lives in Lam beth-walk ; and as he is either dead or dying of cholera morbus, his family were desirous of having him shoved into the ground as speedily as possible, in case the ra - wages of the disorder should extend and kill others. The undertaker, perceiving that the parties only wanted to hoax him, desired them to quit his house, or he should call the police, and after some threatening- me naces had been held out to them they at length left. Before, however, the undertaker had been in bed five minutes, he was called up by repeated knocks at the door, accompanied by ringing at the bell ; and on throw ing up the bed-room window and looking out, he again saw the defendant, who earnestly implored him to come down to take his directions for a funeral, urging the ne cessity of his paying immediate attention to the order, and declaring that if he did not he would stand a chance of being " bundled, neck and crop, into one of his own coffins." The undertaker, sorely vexed that his rest and that of his family should be disturbed by such intruders, again descended to the door for the purpose of giving them into custody ; but they all ran away, with the ex ception of the defendant, who stood his ground, and loudly asseverated that he had come there on" business with the undertaker, and that no man would be justified in making any charge against him. He again referred to a funeral, and endeavoured to persuade the complainant that a job really awaited him. A third time the defen dant called up the undertaker, who vowed vengeance against his tormentor, and seizing him by the collar. hld him until a policeman arrived, and than gave him into custody. Mr. TRAILL asked the defendant what could induce him to disturb the undertaker at such an hour in the morning ? The defendant said that he had been at the "Codger's Society," and having drunk rather more freely than usual he did not on that account exactly know what he was doing. Mr. TRAILL—Did you give any directions respecting a funeral ? Defendant--I don't remember. THE " TIMES " v. THE MINISTRY We deeply regret that Ministers should have departed from the discreet reserve which, upon other subjects, they seem to have proscribed to themselves, for the purpose of disappointing, in a most material point, the hopes which we and many others had conceived of them. It was impossible, indeed, that we should not have en tertained certain misgivings, when we saw Sir James Graham selected for the office of Home Secretary ; yet, upon the whole, it seemed not inconsistent with the tone adopted by the .t Right lion. Baronet in the last Session of Parliament , and throughout by Sir Robert Peel, to believe that they were prepared to re-con sider the principle at; well as the details of the New Poor-law. Even so , late as on Monday evening Sir James Graham declared that during the interval between the present and - the approaching Session every portion of that law would he carefully reviewed ; and certainly we did hope that this review would be carried on without a foregone determination upon any particular ques tion involved in it. But in Tuesday's debate the un welcome, and to us . , unexpected, announcement was made, that the Home- Secretary holds himself " con scientiously pledged to , the principle of that measure, al though it may require, some consideration, and be sus ceptible of some am .endments ;" and that he " will not recede from it." . • Recede from it, of course, he cannot, while he foels himself under a conscientious obligation to pursue the opposite course ; but how this supposed obligation can ) 3resent itself to his mind under the form of a pledge, ve are really at a loss to under stand. Does he mean th at, in a matter which depends entirely upon practice, In:, feels his moral freedom of ac tion, and his power of a ttending to the results of expe rience, compromised by what he may have said or done antecedently to experience ? If so, we cannot augur good from the administi %don of such a statesman. The principle of the New Poor-law, if we at all understand it, consists in this—that it establishes a floating legislative dir .cr etion in the place of law, and substitutes a cents 'al for a local authority. This, or, in other words, the y tower of the Poor-law Com missioners, is the es sent , !, the whole sum and sub stance, of the act of 1` 334. • And the principle of the ad ministrative system, or oi? the law for the time being laid down by the C emu tissioners, in the exercise of the authority thus devolved upon them, consists in the work house test. To both cif ;these, we fear, Sir RObert Peel's Government . must now be considered pledged. What the consequences ma y 1 )e, we grieve to think. To Us, personally, they witi in' olve the painful necessity of waging war, ‘. - vith as much perseverance as ever, upon principles w ith wl rich the Ministers whom we support will from this time be identified. The poor must submit - to they postponement, for an in definite period, or that just and constitutional settle ment of the law on which their interests so largely de ' pend—a settlemer A which vze had vainly flattered our selves it was r est awe d f or th e present Administration to effect. The Got a fortnight since of that m ust b© prepared fora formi dable diminutioi that erithusiastic confidenc e which IV:1S at th eir command, and w ill pro bably find the y crese.-vation of order during th e ensuin g winter infinitely mor a difficult than if they ha d taken a different cours, : : Tin 't remote effect upon the duration of Sir Robert Peel's as ( \endancy we shall not pretend to foretel, but we fear t leis untoward resolution will prove a heavy blow and disc( .uragement to Conservatism, and greatly strengthen the hands of the Opposition, espe cially upon the subject of the Corn -laws. It is to us inconceival le how any statesman, who has attended to the lessons of history, can fail to see that the perpetuation in a fre le cou ntry of such an institution as the Poor - law Comm, sion, is not merely an impolitic or an unjust measure, an impossibility. We are sure that if the whole Bi it' .sh nation could be polled, an overwhelming majority would affirm the sentiments of Mn Wortley, the G o na t ,rvative Member for the largest constituency in V ae k ir igdorn. "No man," he said, " could deny th! at the powers of the Commissioners, notwithstanding th..v ' vere overlooked by the Se cretary of State, ta d :iotwithstanding •he was re sponsible to Coat) - louse for the manner in which they were used, were t unusual and extensive, and, looking to the principle of the mutter, unconstitutional. They would not be justitie lin continuing the Commission one moment beyond the necessity . , for he felt that one of the most valuable parts c f the social institutions of this coun try was that habit of local self-government which had prevailed from the remotest ages. This was not his opinion only, but V j e ()pillion of many of the best and wisest men of all ti es," ......... If so, a Minister , who pledges himself to act upon the contrary principle in the Government of England, is like a man who deli!), -irately swallows a dose of slow poison, or lays a train of g vepowder for his own destruction. With respect to ',b e . workhouse test, Sir James Graham justly observed or, Monday, when Mr, Yorke's amend ment was under dis 3ussion, that it would be impossible to avoid the sePtrat ion of husband and wife, and parent from chi!,d, wb ile ;his test was maintained. But he might as soon hops i to regulate the seasons by Act of Parrlament as to IN x i oncile the feelings of the people of England to this 1 i ract ie e . Why should the des ervin g poor of thi s count iy be worse' treated tha n the West India negro es ? - " - MOItNT TV rir 6,1 T 1%! --- - - 7 -------------. OLI . MORTALITY in the METRO 1- -pp 0011 Afer t sof The following are the results of " A Table of - a ll CO the Metropolis, showing the Number of Deaths frellte T ole 0 Registered in the week ending Sept. 25,1841." Th e issued froirt the Office of the Registrar-General :--- "keg! CAUSES OF DEATH. Epidemic,. Endemic, and Contagious Dise . a.s . e .. s 1: 641 6 : : 18314°' A4 1 e : 46 6 1 ' Diseases of the Brain, Nerves, and Senses . . 157 .., Diseases of the Lungs, and other Organs Itof r" Respiration 18 , . Diseases of the Heat and Bloodvessels so Diseases of the Stomach, Liver, and other ' 69 .1 Organs of Digestion Diseases of the Kidn:ys 8:c. ... ....... 4 C D h is i e ld as b e e s d o , f D t i h se e as j e: in o t f s, th i i on tl e t s ,:r a u r s„ d &; l . u : 5 .. e . i . e . .. 5 ... Jai; Diseases of the Skin, &c Diseases of Uncertain Se-. 52 0 Old Age, or Natural Decay Deaths by Violence, Privation, or Intemperance 3 ! 6 Causes not specified . A „.....-: Deaths from all cause5... k t, ll Average Weekly Deaths ..,• ilief 4 o Deaths in the A le — ie3 64- Week. Dea w-I 139 'Western Districts ..... ... 112 ..-•• 163 North Districts Central Districts 204 ...• 21 1 East Districts 224 .:•••• 223 South Districts ... ..... ...... 9 , 26 fi t bo . . rev rie, es . It is stated that under the term Metropolis are e;', it ; of % of 32 districts herein mentioned, which include tbe,`" L iberti,f,r. don with and without the walls, the City ana, m o rtO` to es Westminster, the out-parishes within the Bilk °` , teo sio‘ s i , 1 and the parishes of St. Marylebone, St. Pancras• l es , , Fulham, Hammersmith( Chapelry), St. Luke (Ch e _ s d Oft dington, St. Mary (Stoke Newington), St. Leant . jol!er o ley), St. Mary-le-bow, Camber • ell, Greenwich, itiistiotolef and St. Paul (Deptford), and Woolwich. Thep 4 ,01 ) 0 enumerated in 1831, was 1,594,890. The weeloc 0 1 1838, 1839, and 1840, was obtained by dividing 1" the three years by 156. TEMPERATURE IN THE WEEKS E NDI elVOt O. Sept. IS. I Sie 79 51 50 61 66 30, 1811. Highest Lo — west .. Daily Mean . General Ilegister Office, Sept. THE MARKETS-SATV giI i NEWGATE AND LEADENFIAI c TigatrAoo- There was but a moderate show of Beef anu., i . ari/0 market ; the demand quite equal to the supplY , bal last quoted. Lamb is in good demand at revious sold readily. Pork in good demand for the tirie r poeLd.; other sorts heavy of sale. Beef, 3s. 4d. to 4s. ; 44. ' g irt 4d. to 4s. 4d. ; Lamb, 4s. to ss. ; Veal, 3s. Bd' I : l6' l' .ien Pork, 4s. Bd. to ss. Bd. per stone of Sibs. Poultry l' ie b good supply; the salesmen asked advancedratcs, `ltoisegiforP are nut inclined to give, therefore but a moderate m. e d be' transacted, but at prices fully equal to those (1 .1.1° ' Eggs dull of sale at 4s. 6d. to 7s. 6d. per 190. Pef WHITECHAPEL INIAIIKET* A 0 0- 1 The supply of Pork was very small, of Veal au" w ere 00 pretty good. Trathi was very lively, and p ices iy• maintained. The demand was much above the suP l , l l ,, 2s. Bd. to 4s. ; Mutton, 2s. Bd. to 4s. 4d. ' Pork, 4s. 4d. to ss. 6d. ; and Lamb, 4s. . ' 11. Si. to 6/. ; Meadow , Hay, 41. to Si. lsi. ; 1/. 18s. d;' TEA MARKET. re e f A fair business was transacted, and full rates Vie so d ilk Company's Congou Is. Mid. the current rate; . , r is Trade Congou purchases cannot be made find per lb. TALLOW MARKET. bo th ,11 0 e f Prices were fins, and fair purchases were made. o 10 0 ' spot and for delivery, at 483. per cwt. The delive,.l,oo 'fa stray , from the warehouses are on the increase. I. 4 et 50s 6d per cwt. WOOL MARKET. .1a; the n ', ". A fair demand existed and full rates were Al wore a firm aspect . Thelarrivals are gill giu' 00- r 59 4 , at COUNT Y CORN MARkETS, Wheat. Barley. Oats. Per Quarter.' A bingdon Andover Saliba ry Basi gs toke Cirenc-ster Coventry Uav en try Derby How den .. Hungerford Halton Maii.!enhead Nottingham Wantage Warwick Winchester York a. to 8. 58 7' 4 63 70 64 74 60 72 60 76 5. to I. 30 36 :13 34 32 40 32 37 32 :'5 :33 39 33 44 32 40 $ 1 / A . • 41. f 64 72 64 74 50 72 64 SO 54 Si 63 70 63 80 29 37 28 32 32 • 33 32 38 30 34 3.4 36 -- 70 52 64 33 33 Per Bushel Birmingham s. d. s. d. 70 S 6 s. (1. s. cl. 36 46 ELL CORE .r Quarter) s. d. s. d.l 36 4 0 1 ' MARK 4 .d. 6 .d, 0 5 0 71 40 5 * 6 5 9 , ▪ 0 3 . qs6, **** 01. 665. `9s : . 67 5, • • > j IS , * "'. 04. 3 0 .'* •5 •••' cOi. 5 44 .." dr. ............. ...4 ................... , Whit( (pel lied Foreign , , Malting , Grinding tritish 'oreign (in b )end) they........ Blue and WI bite Linsec Flour Rapes per sack).... !ed per 10 qi ruartc;s)....: CORNWALL MARK, (Caicnlated at 24 gallons to the ETB', i t s ' 0 s. d. s‘; 8 0 5 0 0y .•••• 0 • I 0 a Q 0 t 4 ' 0 -0" 0 p 6 0 4 4 6 A "" 0 ••••• 6 1 0 S A a - • A 0 4 , co t ') o (Caieulate , d at t. L 24 gall Hlarisl.... ...... ons to the b \‘he us. Ili 8. d. to r. d. s. d. ty s• s - 3 Helstene — 0 10 0 0 --" ~ 9 6 0 9 ..... St. Austell 0 7?- a 0 - 4 ••••• Bodmin 0 8 8 0 4. 6•- ' 14 -. Lau k nceston 3 4 Carnglford I 9 0 1r) 0 3 L . I 0 Penzance. 1 7 8 8 4 0 ' ----------. _ . /It ELLICIEViCt 5,75! , a :drutlilat wee"'" I '.. ' al' ... ....... ~... ........... , 9, , ,,' / .19 0. , r , -.i ;;;;e-g;ia r .d. l'" , )0 0 vt_...._,.....................,___..1 ,by w f Sir George Cockburn has been retu rnet :ill e A t ,f Lawrence, of Studley Park, Aie/Tiber ( 5 lt i;i o ') 0 is ,s Ripon, in the room of Sir Edward Sug d r il t . ol l ' ir ' the Peel Cabinet and other officials creep ' ll 1 .. PATENT LEVER W li r ste'''P r ' e cfr , ri , cl i °' This celebrated construction (the most watch can be made) is now offered at tilipasteicilleir e til i s ° fr 4 : ° with the latest improvements i. e. the .-- - 1 ( 1.9, -- jewelled in tour holec, hand to mark the se,r;up, ~ taming power to continue going rthile wino" pv / SILVER CASES L . 6 ; 6 With double-bottom cases, cap Fed ........ 6 1 With hunting cases, capped ........... ••••; 1/ 0 GOLD CA SES• 1 2 4 Site for Ladies, with elegant gold dial s,,, l' 14 1 3 4/I' Ditto in double-backed eas 15 1 , 0), 0 0 Size fur Gentlemen, enamelled dial ••"" 1 1 11 0 1' i t,.3 11 Ditto extra full size, capped....................rig tit. co , y A Pamphlet, containing observations resPe e i t he P c , l o oo constructions on which watches are made , wi t 1 ~etches e• 0 1 Fl , ete '#s , ik / in gold and silver cares, and a variety of old CO o ' signs, which have just been completed in h lett , r ' , t ill, a s e A nt y , g o r ß at y is aannddpo6sotaNgesf,reNev.aotenhanippaliecrast,is:Yg, 0,___,...")r0 dz,zfie Rank of England. II fl dY B 1 lITHS. lad , / o ,) ladoi ? . n iof l t h hj e ; 2 29 t t hi Curtisl t t u l rt . t . , a: On the 26th ult:, at Queen-st uare Bath, th e ' d ire' Baskerville, Esq., 11. P., of a so i n. ' tie sta f9Y t il agoi ht e e;;, (l. OP / of a son. Se ll . vet' bta MARR/ED• eh flati e dsa 1 On the 13th ult., at St. George's Chur f , de bt Mr. W. D. Rawlins, of Islington, to Mary , e' c ig ya:ttaQii,er tEcifgoserql:,:romflia:ds.aejt; G l° .tel fr sP # W. F. Ross, Esq., of Highbury. Tell + On the 2lst ult.. in Rathfarnhant , Chu pg.. , st Esq., third son of the late Thomas Ellis, reo odl o Chancery, and M.P. for Dublin, tit Louisa , a s eer of the late Sir William Mac Mahma , Bart-, 1%1 „tot': Ireland. - . . , iis or lf Wa O t r i t s, th E e sq 2 . s , th to u i‘ l i t a ., ry at , t ll h o ir l7 t ro d e a d u formerly of Lang-hedge Hall, Fdmonton. ~.,erpuiot eh el° 111-ngworth, bookseller, Wakefield, to Ratite ' 0 , On the 27th tilt., at St. Pai,l'2l Chin* , r .., On the 30th ult., at St. Luke's Church , % ter al ter of the late J. Estill, Esq., of London. _ fr. The l or , of Lambeth, to Charlotte, 1 oungest &lig Tteadway, of Islington. daughter cob/ ;el °_ ° : l, , MINING INT] 2uantity of Copner ores sold at Re, Average Produce 2trintity of tine (epper Amount of sale. `‘3,3 8/.55.,6.1 Wheat ; Barley, Oats, Beans., Pease, --- l3e3-ng•, MARX/ic y ' On the 13th ult., at St. George's Church , 1/a "t - e' v "' ',do Os Nv Mr . ....W. D. Rawlins, of Islington, to Mary , e c o 4 F. Rost, Esq., of Ilighbury. h f r° ll lii ite o On the 21st Int., in Rathfarnharn Chttre - ": , . i ik Esq. , third son of the late Thomas Ellis, 1'7,1'd311.211, Chancery, and M.P. for Dublin, to LOUiSa, See°l f til e e 0 4, 4 , the late Sir William Mac Maholi, Bart., isfaste. . , tor' P Ireland. , i , a OV - ot , p On the 25th ult., at Holyrood Church, Sc' Ll 160 0 , Watts, Esq., to Mary, third (laughter of Va . i lle 4, PP' formerly of Lang-hedge Hall, FdlnOTltoll. : e rp o ',C o t o On the 27th ult., at St. Pahl 's Church , I' s ; elu e 401 Ill'ngworth, bookseller, Wake fi eld, to Katheriot, 1,11, ter of the late J. Estill, Esq. , of London. Air' of ' Thotoljr, On the 30th ult., at St. Luke's Church, (laug hter of Lambeth, to Charlotte, youngest Treadway. ' l i fe t a lu ' # Dr_ED. M " ` l. At Frankfort-on- the-111: - .1. le, Rosalie, ) )u of ° ( 1 , Robert Koch, Esq., her :Majesty's Vice f On the 10th of July, at Sierra ' Leone Manny Adi1',,',,,„1/' of Thomas Hoseasou, Esq., Registrar Of the CW''' 0°',0 4 I and Colonial Secretary, and daughter of Ai r ' .ato e I' l Grosvenor-place ; and on the 1:13(.1 et th e - er' ios Hoseason, Esq., the husband. A a Gr' On the llth of August, at Munich, E.Or • s tv r P 0 " of T ) wysogg, Denbighshire . ~, , 1 4° On the 23d ult. C . Fal •'-'s-''' r f a h , Teorge ooncr, Commander in the Roval,Naiy a ged 75. Wait e fa. ag At Camden-road Vi' s lis, Esq., aged 78. ' ___-- -- 09 ) ' C'aladen-town, , . 4 j ,, ---- -_--------- 0 / off London: Printed and Published by NIV ''°, °Aar No. 112, Strand, at The Sun. Office, l' 4, ir the county of l'tlideNsex, Alsnday, Oclb ber . -A l , . • f . I ti, ~.