The Sun. — London, England, 1828-10-28 00:00:00

SPIRIT OF THE LONDON JOURNALS The Kent Meeting was but an incident, though one fruitful of calamity, in the rapid progress of fac tion here and throughout Ireland, towards a dissolu tion of whatever can be said to constitute a state. — A state is governed by the laws; a government by factions is a dissolution of the state and to the brink of that gulf we are at this moment driven by men, the avosved.object of whose combination is to supersede at once the executive power and the legis lative power, and, under the pretence of upholding l " the Constitution," to chain down the exercise of all those authorities through which only a Constitti . tion can act or can exist. Among the extracts which we publish on the state of Ireland, will be found the record of some ferocious parodies on the worst extravagances of our English Brunswickers. NOr is it very surprising, when we find that Bailin asloe was the scene of the meeting where the effu . - sions were uttered,—and that Lord Clancarty, elder brother to Archbishop Trench, was its chairman.— Men still harp upon the intolerant and persecuting spirit of the Catholics in the 15th, 16th, and 17th centuries, when Protestantism itself had more of the serpent and the tiger than of the dove. It Po pery was then barbarous, it was because society was then barbarous—because wars, originating in com plex causes, were carried on iu a spirit of exaspera tion, aggravated by the intermixture of religion with politics. But to those who dread a recurrence of the power which enabled the Popery of former ages to persecute the sects opposed to it, we would sug gest that although Popery did possess that power, she was stripped of it in spite of all her endeavours to retain it. English Protestantism has been for the two last centuries and an half a giant too strong for the Catholic minority of the British Empire to con tend with. Was it the penal laws which gave that giant birth ? or were they not his harsh-featured offspring ? Undoubtedly it was sot the penal laws which created the strength of the Protestant reli gion : we were strong before, or we could not have enacted such a code. We had power to enact it while the Brunswickers were:young upon the throne —while the Stuarts were still favoured by an im mense weight of fidelity at home, and of protecticn from our foreign enemies. Before Catholicism had become impotent in France, or Spain had sunk into an impotent ally of Catholicism, with all these do mestic and outward appliances to the religion which is now represented as so formidable, the Catholics were not able to prevent the Protestants from depriving them of every shadow of pri vilege or power in England, of even the last spiritual comfort to man, the toleration of his reli gious rites ; in Ireland, of every temporal advantage, --the right to acquire property, or to enjoy, or to preserve it. What we once did, therefore, with every obstacle against us, could we not do hereafter, for the suppression of the Catholics, were we so dis posed, and were a presumed emergency to call for it ? But the question has been argued :too often and too copiously to admit of one new reason. It is not with calmness or sagacity that we have to contend, it is with ignorance and blindness, and the spirit of selfish tyranny, with dogged prejudice and reckless arrogance,—with heads of clay and breasts of marble. Nothing, we much fear, will enable the minds of enlightened men to direct the national councils on this great subject, but some imminent and overwhelming peril which shall strike the senses of the meanest and most stupid in the land. As we have already hinted, that stimulus to self-preserva tion seems now to be quickly approaching us. The Catholics, who calculate rightly that their interest is peace, bid fair to be outraged beyond endurance by the Orangemen, of whom war is the deliberatepoticy. Therefore is it that we fear a disaitrons as well as an expeditious result. And what will be the trst consequence of that dreadful war ? We speak now to the most vulgar and most sordid feelings. Why, as Ireland now produces about 5,000,0001. sterling towards the expences of the State, during a civil war she will yield nothing P Whereas England now pays an Irish garrison of 30,000 men, with the help of an Irish revenue, she will, for the support of a civil war, be forced to maintain 70,000 or 80,000 men in Ireland, on funds extracted from English pockets only. Bat England cannot raise a larger amount of taxes than she now contributes. It is confessed on all sides that taxation has reached its boundary. What then happens ? England must nearly double her army estimates, while she loses she whole amount of Irish taxes, both which effects of the war taken together, must add to her burdens about 8,000,000/. sterling a year. Take the reverse and look at Ireland pacified, prosperous, and im proved. Is it too much to say, that her revenues would be 8,000,000/. instead of 5,000,000/. ? Thus does there hang upon the decision of this political question, an imperial revenue of 16,000,000/. ster ling. We sink the contrast between a desolate and a delighted people.—Times. Mr. Cobbett has returned quite in raptures with the Meeting on Penenden Heath. He has ad dressed a long letter to a Morning Contemporary, describing the proceedings ; and, according to his account, Lord Winchelsea owed his victory to the Radicals, who thought they were holding up their hands for his (Mr. Cobhett's) petition, when, from the blundering manner in which the business was conducted by the High Sheriff; they were holding up their hands for the petition of Mr. Gipps. " The Brunswickers (he says), with their great Cap tain, Lord Winehelsea, were arranged on the side of the hill to the left band of the Sheriff, who was stationed at the point of the horse-shoe. The horsemen that occupied the space at the opening of the shoe, were also generally of the Brunswieker party. Of the persons on foot, there was a narrow list standing within the ropes, but always keep ing very compactly together, and acting in most enviable concert. On the right hand of the Sheriff, in the first waggon , was Lord Radnor, Mr. Calcraft (Paymaster of the Forces), Mr. Hodges, and some others. Lord Darnley was in the second waggon ; Mr. Shiel and Dr. Doyle weft w ith Mr. Larkia in the third ; Mr. Hunt and I were in the fourth, and beyond th e there were four other waggons, which were filled with per*, as who, with very law exceptions, were ready to support nay propositions. The people in the area, with the exception of the little list of Brunswickers, were very nearly .all R a di cal . , and they consisted of very little short of 13,000 men. 44 '‘ It bad been my wish to get into a waggon near the Sheriff, in order that I might hear what he was sayin g , and know what he was doing. This I was unable to do. The Liberals,' who have taken that name, the name of Whig having become so hateful, preferred the company of Mr. Shea in the first place, and then Mr. Shied; and, in short, of any body else. Now happened that which I did not at so late an hour expect,—that is, Mr. Hodges rose to move an Amendment upon my Peti tion ; which Amendment was, that the matter should be left to his Majesty's Ministers, and that The meet isig should now adjourn. This motion was seconded by Lord Radnor, on the ground that there was not time for the meeting to deliberate upon the important matters contained in my Petition. Now the regular mode of proceeding was, first to put the Amendment of Mr. Hodges; if that was rejected, to put the Petition on which that Amendment was made; and then, if that Pe tition were reject e d, Mr. Gippe's Petition stood without any more voting. Therefore, I prepared the imniesse body of Radicals by whom I was surrounded to keep their hats down when the first question was put, and to hold them op when the second moth)* was put. This instruction was neceseary, because nobody could hea r the mumblings of either of the Sheriffs any more than theycould hear the clock strike at York. Accordingly, when Sir. Hodges's motion was put, almost the whole of the pit, as we may aptly call it, kept down their hats ; and, when the second question was put, standing upon the raves of a w aggon, tall er t h an almost any body else, and distinguished from almost all others by a very light-coloured coat, a very red-coloured f ase and a very white-coloured bead, lifting up my hand as hi g h as I could etre& it, cried out, in a voice as loud as I bad at my command, Now, my boys !' and all the-whole Meet.. ing, Brunswiekers and all, with a small exception in the three waggons of the Liberals that were nearest to the Sheriff, and a small platoon ef those standing in front of him, held up their hats. The Radicals, and I myself, were astonished to perceive that the Brunswichers vuted with v.s. The Radicals were running about and asking one an other, and some crowding to ask me whether we had nut carried it; whether we had not got the day 9 The Brnnswickers now gave three cheers ; the Sheriffs were in their carriage iu moment; the whole meeting was dis- j This account of the fairness of Lord Winchelsea's triumph is not altogether irreconcilable with the ac count given by Mr. Hunt at the dinner at Maidstone, the same evening, as reported in the Chronicle of yesterday. Mr. Hunt said," He had attended many public meetings, but never had he seen so large a meeting so snugly packed, or so well drilled, as the phalanx stationed to the left of the High Sheriff (Lord Winchel sea ' s party .) They-were so arranged that, although forming not quite one-third of the i whole meeting, they appeared to be by far the ma jority; and, at a certain signal, they waved their hats, and clapped their hands, and shouted with marvellous precision. —(Loud applause.)--- But, notwithstanding all this, they had not the majority.---(Cries of No, no! we were three to one against them.)--The Brunswickers, how ever, claimed the victory, and so doubtless it would go forth ; well, let them claim it; and if it was a vic tory, he could only say with his friend Mr. Cobbett, that one or two more victories of the kind would an nihilate them. . . . Now he would ask those around him whether th ese B runsw i c k ers h ad not received as ! signal a defeat as it was, under the circumstances, possible they could sustain ?" W e re f er our r e aders to a letter on the subject of the Meeting, from a most respectable Correspondent, in another column, for a further explanation of the means by which Lord Winchelsea and his people obtained so fair a triumph. The organization was much more com a piete than Mr. Hunt was aware of; for the people of Lord Winchelsea had been trained to shout approba tion, to yell and clamour down their opponents, and to hold up their hands according to the signals that should be made to them. Our correspondent is k much better acquainted with Kent than Mr. Cob bett can be, an: we should be incliaed to place more confidence in his account of the character of the pro ceedings. He allows the Brunswickers to have had a majority, though he thinks we have overrated it at five-eighths. We have received an anoilmons let ter from Rochester, giving also an account of the manner in which the triumph was obtained. " The Bruswickers," says the writer, " were active in mustering their tenantry and workmen; and amongst their partisans were a considerable number of the lowest servants in husbandry in their waggoners' frocks. The Marquis of Camden, who was opposed to them, declared that he had not solicited the attendance of any of his adherents ; and Lord Darnley, I believe, was the only person who ex pressed a desire for the support of his tenantry ; but his Lordship's application was accompanied with a declaration, that, notwithstanding his solici tation, he wished them to act according to the dictates of their own feelings. Had it been known to the friends of civil and religi ous liberty that the Brunswickers would have adopted the measures to which they had recourse for the purpose of obtaining a majority, a similar conduct w o u ld h ave been resorted to by them; in that case, the amendment would have been carried by a triuwhant majority. But, even as it was, had the same well-organized system been adopted by the lib era l party us was observed by the Bruns wickets, in marshalling their forces and arranging their Plan--for the Cliibbists had arranged a signal by the hoistin g of a white handkerchief ' on a stick, when their adher ents were to hold up their hands (for it was impossibl e for any hea r i ng to b e o b ta i ned from the nois e and clamour of, the Bruns w i c k ers but by those in th e i mmediate vicinity of the Court: house), the consequence was, that when the amendment was p ut b y the Sheriff, no signal having been concerted by the lib era l party,- a great many on their side did not hold up t h e i r hands, under an impression that, he w as putting the question on Mr. Cobbett s resolution." The cir .which th e Bruns .l that h cuma t a nces above detailed place the t r i ump h in a NVV.eircykedrsiff‘evrish different tit light fron to be vi ewed; but they do not di minish the blame of misconduct Imput a bl e to the Liberals, who had due warning of the exertions . whirls knownwer were making t a it by their opponents, w h o ought an improper advantag e would to have be taken of any apparent majority atthemeetin g , influence, and ought to have exerted a countervailing and directed it efficiently, in order to avert the mis chief which th e y th e mselves believed would flow from the general est a bli s hm e nt of Brunswick Clubs. Lord Camden is, no doubt, a very upright and t sin gularly disinterested m an , b u t hi s con duct in so liciting th o s e w h o were un d er hi s influence is not certainly to be approved.of. If he believed the esta blishment of Brunswick Clubs an evil, and that the countenance given them by the decision of a County Meeting would be extremely mischievous, it was his duty to exert himself as a public man to counter act the evil. Rich men possess their property not for themselves alone; they are accountable for what they do, or neglect to do. We do not say that a solved and dispersed in five minutes ; we learned upon the Green that the Brunawickers had carried it, but none o' us ever knew the cause, until Saturday morning, when I gen: to the High Sheriff for my petition, and when I was informed that IT HAD NEVER BEEN PUT UP AT ALL; and that it bad not been put up because I called the petition the peti tion of the PEOPLE OP KENT, and not the petition of tll? PREEHOLDERs of KENT! So that, here was a pretty proceeding. Mr. Llodges's motion was an amendment upon my petition ; the amendment was put by the Sheriff; though it was made upon a paper which he regarded as notlany, on account of • its informality ! The absurdity, or the gross partiaY ty of this proceeding, needs no pointing out to any man of sense. But the material thing of which the public is to be informed is this--those who voted for me, as well as those who voted for Lord Winchelsea, voted alike againt Catholic Emancipation. And though I regret that we Radicals had not fair play, which we should have had if I had not been kept at so great a distance from the Sheriff, and had not, by artfal delays, been put off till the close of the day, I do not regret that the majority was, not three to one, as the reports Say, but nineteen to twenty against Catholic Emancipation in the present state of things. Indeed, the vote in that respect may be called unanimous; for there were, in fact, not ten men in the whole'meeting who would have held up their hands for Catholic Emancipation —a proof of which I will now pro duce that no man will question, and which is completely decisive upon the point." Let us now hear Mr. Cobbett's character of the Meeting : " First, however, as to the character of the meeting. From the report, one would gather that it was, after all, but a middling sort of a concern; that there were, to be sure, 30,000 men assembled ; but that these were, 14 the most part, mere hinds brought like cattle by the land owners; quite ignorant of the questions at issue, predeter mined before they came to the spot to obey implicitly the command of the masters; that uproar and confusion pre vailed (except when Mr. Shea and Mr. Sheil were speak ing !) and that every thing was indecorous, disorderly, confused; arid that, as to the decision, it was, in fact, no decision at all. " Now, Sir, this Meeting presented to my eyes the finest, the grandest, the noblest sight that those eyes ever beheld. There were- not less than two thousand men on horseback, more than a hundred poet-chaises and other carriages of that description. The meeting was held on a beautiful smooth piece of green sward, on the side of a very gently rising hill. There was au enclosure by posts and ropes, somewhat in the form of a horse-shoe, the outsides of which were lined with waggons and eoaches, and at the open end were drawn up .in rank and file, four and five deep, about three hundred men on horseback, who sat there mounted from twelve o'clock until half-after fire. There was not, during the whole time, a single broil, a single blow struck by any body, a single act of violence of any sort; and I neither saw nor heard of a single instanct of which brutal language was made use of by any one man to any other; nor did I see or hear of one single instance of drunkenness. Ido not believe that such a scene has been beheld in England far a great number of years : it was an honour to the county, and an honour to the country. " So much for the character of the meeting, which, to read the reports in the liewspapers, any one would believe to have been a scene of constant violence, uproar, and con fusion. Lord Winchelsea and his frient:s had certainly hail the advantage of ground allotted to them. They took their station on the upper side of the enclosure, the, enclosure being allotted to people on foot. Their waggons were also furnished with seats. They were in a more compact form than the waggons and carriages on the other side. But there was nothing unfair in this ; and if they had the good fortune to have the really greatest captain of the age' at their head, there was no blame to be imputed to them on that score. I perceived nothing unfair on the part of Lord Winchelsea or any of his people; and if they did triumph, they triumphed as fairly as any men ever triumphed in the world." Nobleman or Gentleman ought to have compelled his tenantry to vote against their conscience; but he ought to have inquired into the state of_their minds, endeavoured to set those tight who were in error, and stimulated those who might be sound in opinion but slow to act. The Whig Aristocracy either be lieve this to be a vital question, or they do not. If they believe it to be a vital question—and they have constantly maintained that it is—how can they re concile such a declaration with ali e indifference to all but their own acts which is implied in the neglect, on such an occasion, to exert their influence to avert this paramount evil ? Whoever is strongly impressed with the importance of any object, is naturally anxious to persuade others to be of his opinion. Mar, sympathises with man. It is unnatural to lock tip o?inions on vitally interesting subjects in our own bosoms. We protest against this system of egotism on tits part of those who, from their station, claim a right to guide the country.—Morning Chronicle. When we congratulated our readers on Saturday last, on our success in having procured them the best Report of the great Meeting on Penenden Heath, we little anticipated that every puny whipster, and every dirty print would have assailed us in conse quence. Our cotemporaries, however, appear to have scarcely recovered from the impression which our report was calculated to make on the public mind, before they determined, one and all, to fall upon us open-mouthed, and to worry us into a still greater revelation of the secret of our success than we had then chosen to make. First and foremost in respectability, though not in wrath, comes the Pompey (we mean the Courier) of the trib e , apolo gising "to it s rea d ers f or h av i ng printed a speech " which was not spoken, namely, that attributed to " Mr. Sheil. It was," adds it, "inadvertently " copied from a Morning Paper, to which Mr. " Sheil consigned it in manuscript, before it pos " sibly could have been spoken. The speech which " he did speak, but which we defy a mob to have " heard connectedly, was mere bother, blarney, and " impudence." So says the Courier; the Standard is still more violeit on the occasion, and under the head of "Scandalous Newspaper Fraud," inserts in its obscure columns not only all the impudent lies of the political quacks of the day, but, in its own pecu liarly impudent manner, declares that no part of the speech ascribed to Mr. Sheil was spoken by him ! With regard to the two additional assailants, whose accusations we are about to lay before our readers, we really know not which to place foremost—Cob belt, or the Morning Journal. It is the toss of a halfpenny, and Cobbett—aye, Cobbett, as he de serves, has won the day. Well, then, Cobbett has written a long letter about us to a Morning Paper, which, in its usual unprofessional mode of going to work, has given it a place in its awkwardly arranged columns, and, to cut his verbiage short, the gist of his accusation is" that the report of the " speech of Mr. Sheil was sent in print to the " office of the Morning Advertiser." He then goes on to say, " That fact I know. There is a " small part of it which, as it stands in your Paper, " has been prefixed, as was originally written and " printed, and as it stands verbatim in the Morn " ing Chronicle and the Morning Advertiser. It " was sent about midnight in print, to the office of " the Morning Advertiser. If you examine the " two Papers you will find the speech the same, " word foe word. It was most likely printed at the " office of the Chronicle, and sent from that office " to the rest of the Papers. You know yourself, Sir, " that it was physically impossible that a speech "of that length could be closed at about four " clock, written out, copied verbatim, actually " in print and printed off by midnight, after, having " been conveyed six-and-thirty miles, exclusive of " the two miles from the heath into Maidstone. " With you, Sir, a little more precaution was neces " sary than with the Morning Advertiser; end, " therefore, this famous speech is, in your Paper, " made to refer, at the beginning of it, to transac " tions upon the Heath ; and, therefore, if you " will please to look at the report in your own " Paper, and go down to the fifty fourth line from " the beginning, you will there find the speech " begin as it begins in the other Papers, and then " go on, word for Word, to the end, with the. excep " tion of the last sentence, as it stands in those 1" Papers ; which little curtailment was also thought " necessary for the purpose of imposing upon you. " There is, however, one little alteration in the last " line but one at the bottom of the first of the co " lumns of the speech in your Paper. In your Paper, " the eloquent speaker asks, ' does_Lord Winchelsea " think,' &c. and then, in the next sentence, he " says, ' but to touch upon a case that apper " tains more nearly to his Grace!' Your readers " must have thought this a bull ; but, if they will " look into th e s p eec h in The Morning Chronicle " and in The Morning Advertiser, they will find " that it was a little rhetorical alteration,. and not a " Hull ; for, there the eloquent person says, does " the Duke of Newcastle think, grc. ?' and then you " know, Sir, ' his Grace' comes in very well."— Such is the amount of Mr. Cobhett's remarks, of which by and bye. Next comes a despicable print, which, after , having changed its name, until it is only known as the alias Paper—which, after having forged the title of what is termed the "Leading Journal" of the kingdom, has, tires acquirens eundo, committed a still greater forgery on every Morning Paper in town—which cannot boast of even. one-fourth of our circulation, and not one cent either of our respectability or age—a Paper, in fact, which is the scorn of all parties, and the confident of none—this disreputable print, we say, which is never known or heard of in town, and which we have been guilty of honouring by naming it, has de dared that " Mr. Spiel first wrote his speech, and " then sold it to an obscure Evening Journal; and " that the purch a se rs b e i ng th us i n possession of " the thing before it was delivered, retailed the pro " perty to a Morning Paper, of an equally obscure " and humble character." Such are the accuse tions of our cotemporaries. Our readers are aware that they have their origin in disappointed feeling and petty envy at our success, and one word more we shall not bestow on the motives of the parties. Neither shall we offer . any remark on the apo logy which the Courier has thought proper to offer to its readers, for having copied from us one of the best speeches, if not the very best, which was ever spoken, or inserted in its columns.— With regard to The Standard, it is perhaps sUfficient to observe, that when we observed the heading of " Scandalous Newspaper Fraud," tinder which it has classed all the lies which found their way into its Editorial box, our recollection carried us immedi ately back to the "nine days' battle before Shumla," and the despatches of Lord Heytesbury, on which that veracious account was founded. We might also, per haps, make the same short work with Cobbett, if we felt inclined; but, as he asserted that he knows it for a ' fact that "the speech was sent to us in print," and that " it was physically impossible that a speech of such " length should be closed at four o'clock, written " out, copied verbatim, actually in print, and printed " off by midnight, after having been conveyed six " and-thirty miles, exclusive of the two miles from " the Heath into Maidstone, and that we probably " received it from the Morning Chronicle Office," we feel bound to state • in the most distinct terms, that Mr. Cobbett knows nothing of the facts which he professes to know—that there is no one employed in our office who would be guilty of informing him, or any other per son, whether the speech was sent to us in print. or in 'manuscript ; that we did not receive it from the offic e to which he alludes; and, finally, that there is not only no physical impossibility in doing what he asserts, but that we can take notes of, write out, arid print, between four o'clock in the afternoon and twelve at night, at any time, on due notice, a speech of twice die length of that of Mr. Sheil ! With regard to the assertions of the disreputable print to which we have already alluded, it is really super fluous to make any observation upon them. There is but one word in the vocabulary which could furnish a proper answe r to them—a word of three letters, with which we shall not soil our lieges . . Our would-be cotemportiry,however,need not beao angry, that it was outstripped in the account of the Meeting. A less niggardly arrangement would have saved it from the disgrace of not having one word of one of the best speeches which has ever been spoken on the Catholic side, and of having been laughed at for not having produced even at eight o'clock next morning, any thing at all approaching to a proper account of the Meeting.—Morning Advertiser, LORD ROSSMORE AND MR. LAWLESS (Front the Dublin Evening Mail) The letter which appeared in the Mail of Wed nesday, signed by his Lordship, has produced from Mr. Lawless the following " retort---courteous," which has been published in all the Dublin Papers : " LORD ROSSMORE AND MR. LAWLESS. " 15, Leeson-street, Dublin, Oct. 22, 1828. ." Mr LORD-I have read, with no little surprise, a let ter of your Lordship's, directed to the Editor of the Dub lin. Evening Mail, in which you have presumed to say that I have made false statements respecting your Lord ship's conduct in Monachan. I fling back the charge upon your Lordship with all the contempt it deserves, and now do I solemnly re-assert all my statements respecting your Lordship's late pusillanimous public conduct, unworthy of the spirit and integrity of the Magistrate, or the sincerity and honour of the professing Patriot., You mistake my character much, my Lord, if your Lordship will flatter yourself that I will not return blow for blow, no matter whose the hand that strikes it; with your Lordship I will not hesitate to appear at the bar of public opi nion, and let that tribunal decide whether I or your Lordship are the most distinguished through life for our adherence to, truth, consistency, and honorable conduct. I have the honour to remain, your Lordship's very respect ful, " JOHN LAWLESS. " To Lord Rossmore, Cortolvin POLICE INTELLIGENCE. BOW-STREET. Yesterday Norman Davis, alias Davison, and Emanuel Charles Green, the man of colour, both of whom stand charged with having conspired to de fraud Mr. Thompson, the patent bed manufacturer of Long-acre, were brought forward for a final exa mination. The appearance of Green had undergone considerable alteration since his apprehensio n , and on being placed at th e b ar h e was i n a very weak state, the cause of which Ford, the gaoler, explained to the Magistrate, by stating that the unfortunate man had attempted to cut his throat with a razor, at Tothill fields prison, about half an hour before. It appeared, that while Ford attended to convey him before the Magistrate, Green, with seven or eight other pri soners, who were at breakfast, was placed in a sort of waiting room at the prison. In a fit of temporary desperation, he snatched up a razor and inflicted a wound on his throat that extended almost from ear to ear. He then dropped the razor and was secured. Li a short time the surgeon belonging to the prison sewed up the wound, and soon after the prisoner and his companion Davis were conveyed to this office in a coach. Previous to the examination being gone into, Sir RICHARD RIRNIE said that he had received a letter from the prisoner Green, stating that he had been the dupe of Davis, Edgard, and others, to whom he had been introduced in Paris by a Frenchman, named Carnel. Green (in a faint voice)—Yes, Sir; pray read my papers, and you will find that I have stated nothing but the fact. Mr. Cross, the solicitor for the prosecution, sug gested that the evidence previously taken should be read over in order to see how far the prisoner Green might have been concerned in the fraud. The evidence of Mr. Thompson was then read over. Mrs. Glindon Was then called forward on the part of the prosecution, to prove that Green had parti cipated in the fraud respecting the bedsteads. She stated that she was the wife of Mr. John Thomas Glindon, of No. 6, Salisbury-street, Strand. The prisoner Green lodged there. • _Understood that four bedsteads and 'bedding had ,been sent directed to . Mr. Green during her temporary absence from home. The beds were placed in the draWing•room. Mr. Green told witness that the beds were his, and that he wanted to send them to France. The next evening the prisoner Davis and three Frenchmen came to the house in two coaches, and took away the beds. The prisoner Green assisted in re moving them. After they had been removed, he expressed a Wish that they would go safe. Witness suspected at the time that all was not right, and in two or three days after she mentioned her suspicions to the prisoner Davis, who said he had merely acted as broker for the sale of the beds, and expected no thing for his trouble. Witness then told him, so convinced was she that a fraud had been committed, that if she knew the-person from whom the bed steads had been obtained, she would tell him her suspicions. Mr. Thompson said that another person whom the prisoner Green had defrauded was ready to come forward. Mr. Wm. Frazer was then examined. He stated that he was a tailor and breeches-meker in New Bond-street. On the Bth of October inst. the pri soner Green came to his shop, and ordered clothes to tile amount of between 20/. and 2.5/. He first asked the witness if he had any objection to give credit, to which witness replied he had none in the least, provided he had obtained a satisfactory refe rence. The prisoner then wrote down the address of Messrs. Davison and Co., No. 70, Mark-lane, to whom he r e f erre d t h e w i tness, stat i ng that iose persons were his agents. The prisoner added, that he had lately arrived in this country, and that if he could have a coat and waistcoat made for him by five o'clock the following evening he would feel obliged. The witness added, that he took the precaution of waiting upon Mr. Davison the following day, and asked him what he knew of Mr. Green. Davison replied that he knew him very well, that he was in the habit of trading from this country to France, and that he would shortly be in possession of a con siderable sum of money. The witness then told Davis that he was a tradesman, and wished to be informed whether Green might he trusted with pro perty amounting to 2.5/. Davis replied, certainly; and added, that any orders given to him after Christ mas he would undertake to discharge on the part of Green. Green—Did you not say you would trust to my own honour for the payment of the clothes I ob tained from you, independently of the reference I had given you ? .. - Mr. Frazer explained, that he did not much relish the appearance and manner of the prisoner Davis, and as the coat and waistcoat which the prisoner Green had ordered were made 'up, he thought he might trust to his own honour for the amount. A Solicitor submitted, that this was no fraud on the part of the prisoner Green, inasmuch as the pro perty in question had been obtained without any false representations. Sir K. BIaME said, that the case of Mr. Frazer ought to be coupled with that of the beds. - It would be for a jury to decide upon the evidence. Green said—" I am innocent of these charges, and the man stands before me now-4 mean you, Francis Emanuel Carnel—who was the means of introducing me to Davison, Edgard, and o th ers . I t is your fault that I stand here to-day." Mr. Cross submitted that Mr. Camel ought to be examined as a witness. His name had been fre quently used by the prisoner Green in a way tend ing to implicate him with the fraud upon Mr. Thompson. Mr. Carpel was then sworn; but being unable to speak a word of English, his evidence was inter preted by Mr. Glind on. lie stated that he was a wine-merchant, and th at h e fi rst b ecame acqua i nte d with the prisoner Green at Marseilles. about two years ago, where he met him by accident at a table d'hote. On the 12th of last July witness came to London, and was met in the Strand by Green, of whom at the time he had no recollection. Green spoke to him first, arid asked him where he was going. Witness replied that he was looking for a lodging. The prisoner then told him that he lodged at No. 6, Salisbury-stre e t, w h ere t h ere was a vacant apartment. Witness accordingly accompanied the prisoner to hie lodgings, and took the apartment in question. In five or six weeks after this, prisoner Green told the witness that he had purchased some travelling-beds, which he intended to semi to Cal cutta. Witness the next day saw some beds in the drawing-room, which were taken away the next day. Knew nothing whatever of the purchase or sale of the said beds. The witness added, that lie knew nothing of the prisoner Davis further than that i'j (witness) was recommended to him and Edgard by a friend in Paris, he (witness) being in the wine trade. A Solicitor submitted that this evidence was in efficient, and that, at all events, if the magistrate should otherwise decide, the prisoners were entitled to bail. The bill which Mr. Thompson had taken for the beds was not as yet due. Mr. Cross—Yes, it is over due; and the parties have absconded. The solicitor—The prisoner Green has not ab. sconded, and he is the acceptor of the bill. Mr. Cross--No; and we will endeavour to keep him. Sir R. Batt:LE—Let the prisoners be committed for a conspiracy to defraud Mr. Thompson, and let the witnesses be bound over to prosecute at the next Westminster Sessions. The prisoners were then removed in custody. During the above examination, the prisoner Green was obliged to be indulged with a seat, and it re quired the utmost vigilance of Ford, the gaoler, who never kept his eyes off him, to prevent him from tearing open the wound in his throat. The unfor tunate young man had stated in a letter to Sir Richard Birnie that he was about to have been married to an English lady, named Hutchinson, when he was taken into custody on the present charge. HATTON-GARDEN. John Cocker , an itinerant M e th o di st preac h er , an d a native of Doncaster, who, being charged by a young woman of the name of Amelia Joyce with being the father of an illegitimate child, of which she was then enceinte, has been confined during the last four months in the New Prison, Clerkenwell, for want of sureties, was yesterday brought up be fore the sitting magistrates, Mr. LAING and Mr. ROGERS, by the parochial authorities of St. Pancras, to have an order of affiliation made upon him for the maintenance of the child, and also an order to in demnify the parish for the expences incurred at its birth, amounting to upwards of 51. Amelia Joyce stated, that about twelve months ago, having lived as servant in a respectable family at Kentish-town, she first became acquainted with the defendant, who, to his profession of evangelical missionary, subjoined the occupation of plasterer. paper-stainer, and baker, and every morning sup plied the family in which she resided with bread, whereby she formed a close intimacy with him ; and as he used to preach in the chapel at Kentish-town, and also in others in the surrounding neighbourhood and at Barnet, she was in the habit of frequenting those places of worship to hear his sermon, and by that means their intimacy grew to a closer connexion, till finally she yielded to his importunities and soon became pregnant. At her former examination, in July last, both she and the overseer of the parish, Mr. Coulthart, then stated to the Magistrates, that the means practised by the defendant to l u ll th e ap• prehensions of his devoted victim, to disarm the delicacy natural to her sex, and to throw down every barrier of virtue and common decency, were the most abominable and unholy that were ever resorted to by a being its the form of a man ; for, whenever an appointment was made between them to meet alone—and they were numerous -and frequent—he always came prepared with the Scriptures, and read and pretended to expound to her weak and inex perienced judgment in a sense answerable to the de signs he had formed upon her virtue, certain pages of the sacred volume. Mr. LAING asked the defendant whether he had any thing to say why the order should not be made' Defendant—l don't know of any thing particular can say. Mr. LAING—Then you admit yourself to be the father of the child ? Defendant--Yes, Sir. Mr. LAING —What do you profess to be ? The defendant, after a good deal of hesitation, and a frequent repetition of the queition, replied, " A preacher, Sir." Mr. LAING—A preacher of what ?—The de fendant was silent and appeared confused. Mr. LAING—What do you propose weekly for he maintenance of the child ? Defendant—l know not what to propose: I have been now sixteen weeks in confinement, and am at the present moment destitute of all means. Per- hap; half-a-crown a week is the most feat; possi bly give. Mr. Coulthart said that he had received instruc tions from the parish to press the charge with the utmost rigour against the prisoner, if the expences at which the parish had been at the birth of the child were not immediately paid. • The Magistrates then made an order for 4s. a week to be paid for the maintenance of the child, and for 51. expences, to be paid at the end of eight days, and threatened in default thereof to issue a warrant for his apprehension again. The terms were agreed to, and the parties lel the office. LAMBETH-STREET. Three most wretched-looking beings, named James Gernare, Richard Bernard, and John Smith, who had scarcely as much clothing on them us common decency required, were brought up from Stepney watch-house on the following charge : Mr. Gardener, an extensive cow-keeper in the Mile-end-road, stated that en Sunday evening the prisoners were found in a fields belonging to him with a quantity of potatoes, upwards of 501 h. weight, which they had dug up and were carrying away. Though he had suffered considerably by this specie: of theft, he did not bring the prisoners before his worship with a view of punishment, but merely that something might be done for them, as lie conscien tiously thought that it was absolute necessity, and the cravings of nature, that compelled them to com mit the offence. Mr. Gardener added, that the spec tacle almost nightly witnessed in his neighbourhood. is truly appalling. Nearly - 100 of these young men assemble round some brick-kilns, there to rest for the night and - the greater part of the day; and were it not for the support which they derive from po tatoes and other vegetables, which they obtain in this way arid roast before the kilns, he was satisfied that numbers of them would die of absolute star vation. The magistrate, Mr. WYATT, out of mere charity to the unfortunate creatures, sent them for a month to the House of Correction. As they were the office Mr. Gardener very hu manely gave them Is. each. In our account of the Kent Meeting on Friday, Mr. WiNcims.ricit's name appears among those Gentlemen who opposed the proposition of Mr. Gipps, when, in fact, he was one of the many who supported it. RAPE.—On the Bth instant, JOHN ARM STRONG, butcher of this pity, a person moving in a respect able sphere of life, was apprehended on a charge of commit ting a rape on ANN Pr.mtsoN, who was living with him in the capacity of a servant. On Monday last he was brought up to the Police of f ice, when the girl and several witnesses were examined, and he was committed to take his trial at the next Assizes, but was admitted to bail, him self in 5001., and two sureties in 2501. each. The affair has excited a considerable sensation in the town.— Carlisle Journal. EXECUTION AT GLASGOW.—On Wednes day morning Trroatas Comics and BELL MAC MErentr paid the forfeit of their lives, at the front of the Court house, to the offended laws of their country. The un happy cr i m i na l s were conv i cte d , at t h e l a st assists, for assault and robb er y, en th e person o f a poor Ilighlandm an , whom Ma c M ENEILY d ecoye d to t h e b a nks of the C ana l at Port Eglint on ; w h ere , b y prev i ous co ncert, CON and two others f o ll owe d ; an d APKtrixoN, the person ro bb e d , was at this place brutally attacked, knocked to the ground 1 by a blow on the head with a piece of a brick, to the effu sion of his blood, whereby he was rendered insensible,• and robbed of upwards of 40s. in silver, which he had secreted in one of his stockings, — Glasgow Paper. f SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE. LIVERPOOL. Wow " Su n. „Alt, OCT. 26.—Wind front minutes past one..--Arrived the. Ardent, Devlog'' .. 1112iranharn; Willi am Th ompson, from Nov Y" k ' foto verley, Bartley, from ,Cha.rleeton ; Hannah, Tali!' bo b, Oporto ; Ven ue , H ar di ng, from Pernambuco ; F ilsj Campbell, from Charleston ; Venus, Harding, fro° lermo ; Rover, Neill, from Wexford. LONDON MARKETS. PRICE OF BREAD. t" The highwt price of Bread in the Metropolis is 1 '- .100 41b. Loaf. There are others w h o sell from Sid. to 10' that price. • PRICE OF SEEDS.—Oct il. New English Red Cl eve r Seed (per Cwt..) -W .-4 .. s. 50s. fide ..4 Old Ditto,Ditto--- 40•4 465. fine — 4 _ 'i.l. New Foreign Ditto ~....—... Us. .58s fine,-••• - .0. ...e: Fir. Old Ditto ....".....«,........---____. 30s. —..s. fine . New White Clover.---.....—...............-- , s*. 1.1.5. fine.T3t* Old Ditto Ditt New Trefoil , 50s. 665. fine os, 235. fine - 4 „ - 358- Si. 16s. tine 27 1 38s. 41s. fine -4 ;„.4. --S. 383. 41s. —s. , 183. dlle -..der —s. 40s. E b 7.llS, 269. 355. new -Yu" _., Ditto ..inseed, for feeding --a. 38. fine . 4 •;:.4; Ditto, for crushing --s. 3(14. 363. l . ___. OX; Canary Seed, New. —a. 53a. fine 5 1 i• d. Ditto Old --s. —s. —s. White Mustard Seed —(per 8u5he1).......55. 6s. fie. 6d. il":01 Brown Ditto ••••-ti. Si. RM. fine. Turnip Seeds, Rounds —s. Ss. I,os. —s. 9s. Ili. fine tee. 31s. 40a. fine.. --,s. —s. fine 40., 0/. er Last) 211. Foreign 216,.....„/ English Carraway Foreign Ditto —.— Coriander. re Gras; ti and ItC4l Ditto Tama, Old Ditto New Rape Seed, Engli4ll, tin; PRICES OF HOPS.—Oct Kant Pockets Sussex Ditto Essex Ditto . 41. 3/ 41 . 41. . I t. t. to 6 4 11 : _ 41. 10a. M. Ss. to 6 1 . 4 Farnham 19itto, Fine 0/. Os. 81. Os. to 9i I -- . Seconds 01. Os. 6/. Os. 7.- (16 3/. 10, 3/. Itis. to 41 . 41. •10. 4/. 16s. to 54 - Old Duty laid at £170,00('. Kent It Sussex .1 Essex PRICE OF OIL. A g 6 Rape Oil, 4W. 0,. Refined -- 19 Linseed Oil - # 13 6 Linseed Oil Cake at the Mill, per thousand !tape Cake, pcv toss - WHITECHAPEL HAY MARKET.--Od. 4s. gtt Ho 50b. Od. to 955. Od. Plover (H. to 11."' Straw—*— Od. to :At. Od. PRICE OF POTATOES.—Oct. 27. Nero Ware se. to 41. 54. per loa PRICES OF Per lb. d. to d. to 581 b... en 21 to 681 b- 22 23 Dressing Hnteo 15 11 Fine Coach Hideo 19 21 Crop Hideo, 35 to 40th. 151 18i Ditto to 501 b. 18 20 Ditto 20 22 _ LEATHER. Per lb. d. Tanned Horse Hides.. 10. 91) , Sp wish Ditto _ Per dozen. 0 Cat(Slans...tid to 4tilb. .„ 0. Ditto 50 to 70Ib. Ditto 70 to 801 b. r. Small Mossy, Greeniundlo_,.., RAW HIDES. (1. Per Stone. s. d. to s.d. Per Stone. S. d. to' Rest Heifers & Steers 3 43 8 I Ordinary g 0 _ At Middlings 9 10 3 0 Meant 9 0 COAL 'IAN Adair's Od. Beaumont 31 0 Burdon Gray's Steam Coal 31 01 Heaton 35 6 Hebtourn Main :14 6 33 0 Killingworth 33 9 Liddell's 30 0 Ord's Redhugh 30 0 Percy East 28 6 Pelaw ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• 92 6 Pontop Windsor 31 0 0 I Tan6eld •••••••••••••••••••••....0 52 0 - 32 0 Willington 34 3 Wylant • 32 5 WalisEndßewicke&a: 27 0 Dittoßell Robson &Co. 35 3 Ditto Brown 33 3 Ditto Burraton 33 6 Ditto Carr and Co. 31 3 Ditto Clarke and Co. 32 6 Ships at market, 125%—Shi t IRISH 111/ 1 . DUBLIN MARKET Ni 3,938 Wheat, per b4rrel 1 3 0 stone 4,897 Bete _ 16 stone 1,399 16 stone, 4,671 o;ts 14 stonel 3,790 Cwt. Flour--n. P stone 1,078 11 stone Sold to Makers only. P. 116 Cwt. Flour Average price of Wheat an t ( Receipts of Flour, 13,19 41,c0 firsts , Sales of 1),. ,BR7 KE - I'.—Oct. Walls End Newmarcb.... Ditto Crainlington.,...... 3 0 t ' t Ditto Hilda gl Ditto Hotspur 32 9 Ditto Northumberland 31 Ditto Perkins and Co. 3 4 71 Ditto Riddell*. 35 Ditto Russell's 27 6 Ditto Walker 35 . Russell's Lyon's 35 ." Harraton 31 Walls End Hytton Walls End Lambton..... 2 3 Walls End Lyons—. 35 ." Walls End Stewart's .... 33 Cubn Llangennech 31 Cowpeu 39 Hartley' 3l " U. Silkstone Field and Co. 32 ~P Llangennech Coal 40 „ W. E. Sibbets .„ 27 ° Tantield 31 "- Punbton small 23. ~. sold 57X---Unsold. ON. .RKETS. )TE.—Fattav Oct. 24. 1 From Ito I bl.r• • 29 0 42 0 35 9 5 0 30 0 g 15 0 20 0 17 12 0 23 • 0 ,19 %/ 12 0 - 19 0 II . *' 14 0 22 0 15 2 20 0 30 0 5 1 1 Flour . •. 4d. per ..... from 2Ss. Oci. 5,,....... from . 20.5. od. from ss. Od. BREAD. lalf..qualtern,,Sßb. :23, 6 lack. to Stk. im" to 46t to 1114•,,-°. ......s!a d, Fleur, per elk. r.--.--...A.,.......„• L ht. 2,1 4 . --_,.........._,.......... r -• . 8. 41. as. 0. ( 10 0-91 0, 0 0 0-15 9. 11 0-19 0 1 , le 0-ler w e 00-• 0 ' _.-- rater. MICE OF Quarter!' Loaf, 41b. soz. 103j,d. I Wheat, per barrel j 20 atone. -.---- --...—. s, d. a a. d. Cork -- 23 0-34 6 1 Limerick 35 0-40 0 Waterford 35 0-33 0 Clonmel .., 30 0-34 0 Carlow...—. 19 6-.,30'9 Barley. I Oat*. per barrel per.barrel 16 atone. 14 9 MO. s.d. a s.d. 9.6. a s.d2 s..d. as. d. 14 6-20 4 9 0-18 022 0-20 (I 10 6--20 0 10 4-13 0 16 6-25 15 0-48 5 10 0-14 0 21 0-26. 14 0-17 0j 12 8-14 0 IS 0-25 12 0-15 0113 0— 00 20 6-21 Beef, per lb. d. a d. d. Cork —5 L Limerick—in-5 4 Waterfordi4 —5 5 Clonmel 3k-5 Sk Carlow.— 4 —5l 0 blitt . on,l • Pork, per lb.l per cwt. d. 1. d. a 9. d. 6 1 1 5 0-31 0116 5 34V-35 e7B 6 29 0-56079 5 00- 0 076 0 00- 00 35 1 650 68 0 sa 0 s 6 0. shs u. 160 — 0 ° Ge 0 KILKENNY Alit tocrr, Ocr. 24.—Butter, 80s. to 815. per cwt. ; Bacon Pigs, 54e. to She. per ditto; Wheat, Ste. to 56e. per barrel ; Barley, 18s. to 20s. ; Oate; Its. t° 13s. ; Flour, 18s. to 48s. per. bag ; Beef and Mutton, 4d. to sp. per lb. ; Potatoes, Od. to 2d. per stone ; Coals) Is. 2d. pee cwt. SCOTCH IHAIIKETs. Wheat. Aberdeen Coldstream Cupar Elgin -- 50 68 46 52 35 66 72 79 60 70 52 60 45 52 54 86 64 '76 of the m Barley. Oats. I Beans Oatmeal. 30 37 27 29 20 21 US 40 38 22 26 23 20 26 28 34 40 24 27 sure var Kirkaldy Perth I*. The size 18 27 1 19 tit 122 25 16 17 26 28 la 26 27 30 27 -- 21 24 -. SO 21 23 23 24 17 21 25 27 24 26 32 I 5 19 .- lee throughout the BIRTHS. 31, - 9 1 3 96 33 40 - 33 - On the 26th inst., Mrs. Ashton, of Boners-Street, of a daughter. On Friday, the 24th inst. at Pownell-terrace, Koninv ton, Mrs. J. D- Woods of a daughter. Ou the 25th inst., at the Vicarage-house, Ealing, the lady of the Rev. Herbert Oakeley, of a son and heir. On the 26th inst, in tipper Harley-street, the lady of Benjamin Goad, Esq., of a son. On the 26th inst., the lady of Jackson king Hunt, Esq. of Charlotte -street, Bedford-square, of a daughter. On the 26th inst., at Westbury-house, Plants, the Hoo. Mrs. Wm. Gage, of a son and heir. At gtone-pitts, Isle of Wight, the lady of Captain Brig stocke, rt.N., of a daughter. On the 19th inst., at New Poseo, Lady Nastnyth, of a son. On the 17th inst., at Verdun-sur-Meuse, the lady of Captain Strachey, R.N., of a son. On the 27th inst. Mre. W. T. Abud, grove, Hitbgate, of a son. MARRIED. On the 23d inst., Lieutenant-General Sir Henry Mon tresor, 0.C.8. and K.C.8., to Miss Fairman, of Linsted ? Kent. On the 27th inst., at St. John the Evangelist, Waterloo ' road, by the Rev. 11. Irvine, ALA., Air. Wm. Richard Croggon, eldest son of William Croggon, Eq., of Upper Stamford -street, to Ellenieldest daughter of John Dornford, Req., of Aldgate High-street. On the 25th inst., at , St. George's, Hanover-Nuare, by the Rev. W. Oreenlaw, Mr. William Hurley, of Conduit street, to Mias Hall, of Islevrorth. On the 25th inst., at Ricktuansworth, Edmund Hey sham Wood, Esq., of Woodford, E s sex, to Sophia, third daughter of the late John Branton, F.@9., of Higbant-hill, WalthamatOw. DIED. On the 18th inst. at Ross, Herefordei!ire, aged 22, George Loftus Edridge, youngest son of the fate Uev. Dr. Edridge. On the 26th inst., at Hampstead, in the 22d y - far of her age, Mary Caroline Balicourt Long, second daughter: of the.. late Air. Thomas Long of Penton-street, Pentonyille.- On the 24th inst., at Malvern Wells, Catherine, Pub` sister of the Right Hon. J. Calcraft, M.P. On the 2th inet., Harriot ilamlyn, aged 24, yeunge.#,t daughter of Mr. William Soper, of Paradise-street, Rosher-1 On the 26th inst., in her blth year, Mary, the wife of Mr. G. Browne, surgeon, Paradise -street, Rotherhithe. On the 21st inst., at Ilavill-street, Camberwell, aged 33, Eliza, the wife of Mr. John Drake, late of the East India Company's service, second daughter of Thomas Frank, Esq., of Greenwich. On the 6th inst., at Lyons, ou his way to Niue, for the benefit of his health, Richard, aced 26, eldest soil ' of Mr. Richard Porter, of Regent-street, London. - Pnwran and Pun Liana() by AIURDO YOUNG, at the §tn , i OF.azies, 112, S?RAND, L•NDON. / 41,1,n A ver Its:1 Ste, Val At IA Hai 11 4; 8 , a tv e 1.4: