The Sun. — London, England, 1816-09-05 00:00:00

POLICE OF THE METROPOLIS. Mr. JoiiN STArror.o, Chief Cltrk at Bow-strcet, riaatined. Do you hold any other situation besides that ?, "Ves, I have other situations, but not tinder Go verinnient ; I am Clerk of Indictments on the Home Circuit and at the Middlesex Sessious. Do you practiseas a solicitor l--No ; I am non ; I am admitted of the anciety tile Inner Temple, and practiieae . a er' tirlitightsnian. , How many days are you, in consequence of Lolding those two first situations., necessarily absent from the office ?—I upon an in:et ake , the t wit circuits in the year require idiom ei k ht veci,s' ahmence ; my :attendance tit the SeQgiolls )10'er attire ly prevent* my attending at the ()dice, because I have a clerk to assist ine at the Session,, and I go backwards and forwards during the day, sis I find necessary; if the business, presses at the sessions, I ant a longer time there ; if I find,it neeesAary to he longer at the,office, 1 am so. There arc eight sessions in the year ?—Yes. How many days do they* generally last ?---Nly attendance is nerer required but wh:le the Grand ,Ivry arc sitting, that is generally live or six d.ys each session, and no evening attendance is neet:s. aary. It'hen you are not attending your duty at now. street office, who does it for you'?--L-There arc two other clerks Upon the establishment, a second and titird cloak, and t4o at) assistant clerk. In point of fact, is it not the extra clerk, as he it named in the return, who does a great part of tbe business of the office certainly is of most mate! tat service ; for Mr,Thomai, the second clerk,- from 'illness and infirmities, is not so Coto- 7 r.etent now as lie w as fOrmerlyln do the business, originally, took the appointment . 'of thief clerk 'at How -street, with an understanding that I was • to be permitted to go the circuit. I ptevionsly had the appointment ot chief clerk at Union-hall; and a vacancy having taken place at Bow-street, Sir Richard Forki, at that dine tbe'ebirl magistrate there, offered medic appointment, which I was glad to,agent, us the magistrates. at Unicift-hall 110 folieal Come faith with my absence on the eir. • Fuit ; bat Sieltichard Ford, so tarfrOm objecting to - my going the circuit, said, he thimk;ht might derive. from it much information that might be useful to theoffiee. Do you not.think that ,if the . three 'clerks did daily their-dot y, confining themselves solely to The business ot the ail:, time necessity cirthe em ployment of the extra clerk would no "lotigta exist ?—I have my doubts about that.; the bosi '. Tcs's of the otileti•is a great deal more, than petipie ingeneral have any conception of; and I believe that done but persons belonging to thcofirke are aware of the great labour reiluirt d frunithe clerks by he great'qOautity buSinesS. Yon must..be aware that if you are absent "snell a namber of weeks in the course of the Year, if the aecood clerk , is in a state such as you have descrih. ed, and If the third clerk rarely comes'to the office, lhat, suppooiir all the three clerks did vegultitly ctIA 1)111..0n:04y their duty, there he no ne qeessity-fOr au extra clerk certainly think that ..the three cietks,,by having nothiagelse to engage ..their attention but their duty at the office, and 'by constant attendance to it, might, be elmbled to get through the builine4s, • but it would be with ltery hard fagging ; there is a. ; great defii of busi- Ins. , to do : my time, is, frequently 'taken imp for Joi,:is -in a nswering persons who come to . ask ,qae4ttoris and seek advice ;in' VarlOtni, ma; ters. e,r e is one ditty thrown upon its by two icCeitt 1303 or parliament with respect,to the subsistence of soldiers' .wives and children, and making Out routes and passes for them; that takes up Altuiit one person's time. . Is the attendance of the magistrates at Bow vteet regular and ituirorm %—Our Magititratesrer tainly cto not consider themselves extictly bound to theparticular !lou rs specified for the.attendauce of the tniiglstrates at the police-offices ; ge mrally speaking, t he attendance of the magistrates at 13ow street I> regular. . In point of fact does one of the magistrates daily attend at 1 i O'Cludk ; • And again.at 8 'o'clock 'in the evening ?---The attendance in the moruiiig is Uniform and regular in the eveving sometimes it happens that they do • Pot attend J . sOmetimes.it occurs that a magistrate from, another office will attend for threat; Air, Nitres some time ago was in a very bad state of health, beJs better north and ationtoled so late as last night ; but when lie Was its ill health he some. times 'absented himself in the evening, and got a magistrate to attend for Is not the attendance" of thoie magistrates who fluty' be considered as volunteer magistrates, re , . temng no salary, 'more regular than the attend. Knee of the inaiistrates who are paid by'the pub anti I beg to state, - that the magistrate Who attends in en evening occasionally for him whose turn it 'is, is generally either one of our iii:Vo ; or •one,of the police miikistrates ; we have '.'s!ety littit'attendanetkindeed at our office of fu reign pagistrates. • Does it ever happen that a person it kept under rliarge all night, - in consequence of „there, being uo'magistrate-in attendance to receive the 1110ioTt against him ?—.lt is possibreimeh w thing may Bays havpened, but 1 tro not know of any insrance,of it, within my Own recollection. Were von in attendanCe on Wednesdarthel76 .of April last Cannot bring to my recollection -whether I tivns or not Wetiiiesthiy is one of the days of Mr. Nares's attendance, and I think it possible i thift In the evening there might be no magktrate ttiere. , So pat . rt might have happened that a person who Ira , / 'taken up at lour o'clock on liTednesday. OtternnotrOas nbt examined before a magistrate till hittreen iw6 and three on Thursday • - • plight lfappeo :. but the lateness of the eNamina tint, On Thursday could nut arise from the non- —• . attention - at of a magistrate. It very often hap pens, where prisoneri tire taken in an afternoon, that their examination cannot be gone into in the evening, the officers not being able to procure the attendance of the necessary witnesses so soon ; therefore, though, the magistrate might be absent, stud ttie prisoner remain in custody, it does not necessarily follow thatit was occasioned by the- absence of thelnagistrate. You must be aware that, though 'it does not necessarily follow, be could not be exaniincd it there was no magistrate ?—Certainly. And you are also aware that it. is the duty of the magistrate to be there ?--Certainly, . Do you recollect wher.er the saine thing happen -61 A few days previons,,in the preceding week ? That cannot say. • In poiotof tact, is it not. a circumstance of .Cominott occurrence, to4thete is not thavattend due* Laatthem 0ep....,ht to be, , on the. part of the ii )1,,.e magistrate , ?—The only nights that I tttt Aware of any thing like it having happened, are the nights that I have already men tioned, when Mr. Narei should have been there, anti another magistrate has not attended for dine; awl therefore it has happened that there has bean a White of attendance sometimes ia an evening.; PUBLIC-HOLTI • • Are yon.at.all cone:N.lfeet with the licensing of p o bli e -ho u s e s at Bow-street the district that 'is licensed at Bow-street, I 'ant so far concerned as to he joint licensing clerk with the vestry clerks of the respeoive parishes we license at ;Bow-street ; which are, Lite parishes of St. Cle nient-Danes, St. N1ur .. 4 1 , 1e-Strattil, bt. Pant Covent gurden, and the liberty of St.Martitt's-le-grand. %Vita, pains, are taken, prior to the granting of the license, to ascertain that the person petition ing for a new license is tote to whom stick lieense ought to be granted ?--It has very rarely hap •ienedthat any new license has been (;ranted within the district of Bow-street ; the magistrates are,aoxions lather to lesSeu the untidier , of pnitli6 houses Ilrln to increase them. IVhen person applies for a license, 'it by petition; he stares his name, residence, tiade• or business, anti w h at nisi reatonts fife for wishing to take'a public-house; and sometimes, also the'inbabitants send: a m e - Morial, stating that the house I' necessary'''. un nessary, , as the case may he : anti the . magistrates inquire into all the particulari, and exercise th e ir discretion upon the subject. Are the certificates generally signed by the clergyman of the pal Hi, or by the parishioners ? —I think they are generally signed by sonic of the parish officers, trod some of the parishioners who are substantial housekeepers; in• bourse in stances the clergynntn• signs, but generally the Qversvel:s and churchwardens, and some respect able inhabitants. Are you aWare that it is stated ,by Mr. Coign boun, that it. is a Common practice for the beadle to get the certifitAte of the clergyman, he (the beadle) receisittg a fee of half-a-crorvu,' and that those certificates are given as a matter of course —No, I urn not atm e of any such practice, nenr does it existiwthedistriet I have any, thing - lo d'o with ; we never grant a license, or even a trans fer, without sendiog. for the vestry. clerk, who regularly attends, and states that the inhabitants arc 4:11.6fie1l wirlr the account they have had ofthe incoming tern6t. , Are you not aware at the office of the, existence of !natty houses whichttre known by the name of 1! lusts-house sr" where there is a ,nightly assem blage of bad and low people of both sexes ?—No, I do not knots of any in our district. IVI:Tt? you not away e of it house •in ilose-street, Covent-garden, against which complaints wet e matte at the and against which a preunt 'mot was made by, the magistrates at .Clerken alluded to, I apprehend, is the sign of the rinse, siruatein the parish of St. Mar tin-in 46e-fields ;I am aware of Complaints ltav ing been - made against it : it 'was kept by a man of the name of Kelly, of bad character, mid %vas understood that it was frequented . by per pelsons'i the license was taken away it hos ' been since granteti 'to another person.' and I be lieve the house now is a very well-regnlated bonsc, yon take upon yourself to say, -that 'with in your , - district theye are no houses such as have been deser;bl - d; i n W hi c h' nightly, meet thieves, persons of the most notorious character, tit both sexes, • in n , hie!), they live, and whjel! they I)” as their dwelling-house ; and where the Bow.. street officers go when they wish to look after a thief, knowing that there ale Ilia haunts ? To tire first part of the wiestion, No, there are none in our district. There Is a 1100 e, the norest . . I know any thing of, known by the name of Tin ‘Vilvat Sheaf, in Drury-hue, situ ate in ; we hare : no. thing, to. do with the licensing of that, but I know that the. Hector was taken away some time ago, and that. the parish indicted the occupier for keep ing a.tlisornerly house ; the holm was afterwards relicensed, "and there has heel) a, change of tenants since :. tha,ve not heard of complidtits he ing made against it, but I have reason to believe that it is now nearly as had as ever. I do not know of any of our, officers going and associating with the.cempany there. The'question is,, whether they do not.go there, knowing that ,tbere they shall,tind,their prey ?—I hatT no reason to:hmlieve that .thry do. An. you mean to say that the police-officers of Ilow-street do not- know that there are particular public 11011$V6 which the thieves.itt the metropolis, isliose character and whose .perbons they know:, frequent ? , ---Certainly there are houses, in the mer that the office's must know, and do know, are, frequented by tbivesi Shoup! you not think, sufficient,ohjeettoh to warrant the magistrate . refosinz 2 the renewal of a license for the masters of 'those houses, that the in.itses themselves are receptacles for thieves ellost undoubtedly.; I should think that when it wastestablished before the . magistrates, that the house Was. frequented hythieves,and pers'ons of ill fame, or,that the house was many other re,pept a disorderly house, that the magistrates would con , sider it a sullicieFit.gronnti.tpr refusing the license., ,Do yout,not know that nightly. in the neigh hourhood of ,Drury-iarteand Cument4garilen,. all the small publichonse: and gitt-411tops, of which there are Many, are scenes_ :of, theitrcatt,lt de baucheryr.!---No, J. tiu ,not know it ;,neither I think the fact it au,,be Did you .ever pass on an evening, through nnY of the_strects. or alleys, in .whicil these public houses are situate ?—I have passed onliVetening l through all the streets and alleys i n the neigh-, bourhood of Covent-gerdep, .and certainly there arc many houses open, and there is more bustle in that part of the town than in other parts, ia cuni , . sequence of. the viciuity to the theatres : antLe great number of persons employed at the theatres, labourers, mechanics, and others, go to those public houses for necessary refreshment after their husiorsi is done. • Is it flat a mattct of public notoriety, that those houses arc the receptacles of every species of vice certainly not. Do you consider it as a pert of the duty of the Bow-street patrole to clear the streets and the market of disorderly people during the night Disorderly people" is such- K 1 ,-entral.term, that .I hardly know how to answer; I tttke it a person , must be doing sonic specific act that will atitho- .rize the patrole to interfere, before they can sued- ' dle with him. Do yolk Hot know - the market itself is a place where boys and women of the town promiscuously sleep ?—1 never heard of .wonien - of the town sleeping in Covent-garden market ; I havecer tainly heard that hays slept there, nod idle fell ows, and even labourers and porters, previous to com mencing their work in the morninwhich begins as early as three or four o'clock on market morn ings. Then the Committee are to understand you to tttate., that the public-houses and gin-shops, and places of that. description; in the neighbourhood of Covent-garden and Drury-lane, are generally conduried in a Manner •that meets with the approbation of the magistracy ?---Perhaps I should be goim ! too far if, I. was to state that they wore conducted in ft mealier that Meets with the appro bation of the magiatreev ; but l have noltesita• tints in saving - that nothin, - . t•eetres referred 'to have taken place-at those houses,- wit bin my knowledge; and 1 believe many publicans are ex tre:nely anxious to keep their houses as orderly as possible. When the licence for the Rose was stopt, some of the people that used to go there went to another house, the Green Man, and I know% that the landlord of that house applit d to a magis;rite for advice as to what means could take to prevent such people conning to his house. Some of the houses arc necessarily, kept open to s late hoer in the night., from the vicinity. to the theatres : and the.accortonodation of pecans frequenting, the, unit ket requires other houses to O pe l) very early in the Winning ; then there is a description of houses which have sprung up o f late, yeari, ipd arc more mischievous than the poblic•houses, over which the magistrates no seminary power —they are 'called coffee-howsts cir coffee-roonis, and open at I i , 12, or I , at night,. and remain open during the whole of the niaht 30 . that when idle people are drive;; out of the pablit-houses, they first Mid harbram in . those 'places, anti eats afterwards go to the market-hoaaes, Art they obliged to take out a license?—No ; there is 'no .lieense at all. • . Even some eating 4 houses or "cool6:shops have got into the way of keeping open almost all night, iu which'hot vic tuals, roast pig, and' joints of meat are provided, and people, men and women of any description, are reeeirell'; 1 have seen them open till four in the morning. Do they not there - sell liquor ?—No, not soiri- N ous liquors ; they sell spruce beer and ginger beer, and those sort farthings. . Have you ever had anyeomplaiuts at your. office of Any disorders at t ho se houses ?—Yes. What steps were'then taken ? - -We sent a party of our parole with a search-warr an t, a nd took thewhole of the peo-ple found there at a late hour in the eight into etstody,. considering that they .eitme,tinder the dent iption . of idle and disorderly persons, and such as 'they would be authorised by t heir, warrant to apprehend.' Were any of them in the situation of reputed ahieeeso, I do not recollect that they were- What did you do with the parties —' brow brought before the Mugistrate the next Morning; a arek ,i proportion of them wete discharged ; ulna not sure whether any were list! tee bail !..some stated that they were journeymen Printers, and that they were eniployed'on the morning papers, hich required eurly'aftendarrce ; some said they were 'fisbutimgers'' men, 'going to 'Billingsgate y Ha d a variety : , of accounts were : givetilti-others. bey all Sitid,,that seeing the boase open, they went in for refreahment. 1 think the worriers taken amoaigst them were sent to prison. There is t Statute in 54 George 111. (cap. 37), in which it ,is provided, s' that constables may apprehend suspected persons, that is, persOns ill fame or reputed thieves ; and if such person or persons, shall not be able to give a satisfactory count' of theinselves, 'the Magistrate shall hav e the pow e r of committing them to the House of Cart ection . ." - IS that Act often acted upon in your Wilco-- Yes, daily almost : but it requires three, things to convict a nnio halter 'that Act.; he most first be e 'reputed ti)iel,--be must be found in one of placca the Act deseribes,'—then lie must be . prOVed to he there with an' inte n t to c om m i t fe .lfrity upon the Persons or propertrof 1114 Majesty's subjects, and not be ableAti Five a Satisfactory account of himself or of hitAvay of livin g . , !rhea one Magistr a te can commitlsitu to gaol ? —Yes, if he . d o e s tun appeal et the 'ti tne of eon :eh:6om, and offer bail ; and as there is no frac tion of a day in this reSpect, he has the whole day t'o,proCure bail; but if lie does not offer bail till afterwards, we tlo not accept it. Gan yon State to the Committee the number of persons whom the Magistrate:, ittßow-street h a v e conitnitted within the last year under:this act No, I cannot from memory. • Shoold yon' think a considerable number yes ; I 'should think there are some committed to every sessions; perhaps, on the average, four or five to each sessions, 'there being eight sessions . in the'year. Do you believe that infortnations are ever laid against the keepers of public-Louses; in order to extol t iniffley (tom them 1-1 am not aware of it ; that has never apileared from any cases brought to the ofh - ce in Bow -street. Do yo . on believe that offences to any extent are contiuitted in the licensed houses that are not heird of at the l!olice Office ?—No, 1 do Rot be-. lieVe there are, Polon believe those houses which are the re bort of thieves and loose characters assist, -or otherwie, the police in the detection of thole thieves ?-- 1 -Ithink that in some measure they as -sist ; not but that the evil tendency of-them more than counterbalances any gooci they do but they , . may assist in this way. , Liltat the'dfficett may and look into‘those houses, and by that mt they get a knowledge of 'lke' persoml, of who are suspeetedithat they.othertviSc Piight obtain, .1_ Do you not (Ilia that, though yoti are that : etrabled to'seize upon one ofiehder, by they ral corruption of morals which of comae must : stilt from the assemblage of Abet" class of pers 'together, young and old, more 'injury is .sufft by the community tlinn gained -, by the pun anent of the 'criminal I—The injury.to the et mutiny must far exceed any benefit that can obtained, in my opinion ; but' 1 beg leave 'tvPi that it very rarely happens that our oificerslioth to apprehend thieves. Is it not a common cant, phrase on the part . the police officers going to one of • thosi hoe that he knows gill be the resort of the man seeks for, that he is gone to such a place beat be " wants" him ?—lt may .be so amongst Pm officers, but it certainly is not among ours; u I beg to say 1 consider our officers a very snr" l class of men to some of those who are eel") . at the other offices, Uu yon speak of those more generally (len" ) totted the " Bow-street officers," or the role ';-1 speak - of the eight officers ; not but tl %re have some very respectable men aurnog pat role. Is there. any difficulty in well-regulated -Public houses obtaining a renewal of their licetve?iT o know of none : at th e li cens in g tide, the reg a l .+ is for the constable of each Ward..(for Vest miuster the, part-Imi are divided into war& CO bring a list of the houses' who require tolo i st their licences renewed ; the Alagrstrate 1 40 11 _ 11 constables upon oath, and m asks the sucn qat's tion - S as .he thinks necessary, awl among otfters whether the conduct of the house has bcei' sttcl in the neighbourhood 'as to occasion' of'y e " whether the inhabitants have nnide . a") • aOM complaints, and whether the constable h.fb h, round and ob se rv e d the conduct which has°te k c rt place in the houses ; find if he reports iven e o v l them, and there o re Il i, objections made . by o tb the reiwwal of the licerio is a mat er Course. (To Lc 3,;!.1:nue,1.) It Is not true that any more of the Villains C°ll. lily in robbing the East India hov of t' q u ,r . y of dollars have been takes' into ensit i i o sstl ft t e c i' r a r e t v c ( l l :t i. l e t p e d e s t r e o s t o t i t i :e .t e a nre n L le t t l e i d e l o a f w t ,. he sev; ll : l ; 6:7llJ;k l persons . who hatl be rk e e n a friends assembled arßlackwall in the e-vening, d tion. As the witnesses' lives appeared to 11 ; to anger In the occasion, the police_otlic ers sent for, and the ringleaders of the riota l9 th ri e tu rn a c t in t l i s te at t . i . o ti o ie r s ir o coov n' ic i l t ; taken into custody, and st ill continua la OP On Saturday last were executed,' upon di t ' C ' i r l : tle-hill, Norwich,. T. Thodyi' aged',..)ll4;lo. ttood, aged 22; and Thomas May,..at!v (l7 et two first were those concerned in the I Downhant. Thody,. when brought out, ev`?" o ' great fear, which he expressed by cno s , shrieks, tint i was obliged to be sopvort td l e Y l I 0 veral'inen.. May (the sheep-stealer) , Harwood, s uffer e d with firinuecs the tfrvt"'" —et tence of the law. M u ter, i 4 t* Monday afternoon journeyman 0 1 work on the outside of . house the canerrei, Molts-elictmbere,•iii Chancery-lane, by 50 ; e : t „,l dent tell from the machine •at the seem!'" 1 . „.,,s window into the street, by which his hel" badly fractured. He was convey ed to St' tholOmew's , Hospital Witlifillt hopes of rferfr o r' v .i. Drs. COOPER, MuNnoa, and Outicati, clans to the .Medical Board at Clisrlutie•trr'o, Illackfriars'-road, have ascertained and 111 ) W i li o g• of 6000 patients ale eared disorders, alai hundreds were in a diorks s !P fl i ;piof - "jog to quacking themselves, end br men ignorant of the profession, who tkc l " Al l ritthiic by their specious promises awl i4 , l l l ; o t cti advertisements. Eruptions on the l't"°': tt and. , 'body , -ulcerated: . throat, swellinp 'noir neetit nodes on the shin bones, psins , 11l t istot alu d 4recitiently, takes, tor 1.4"f..001. swelled aneles, and nervous debility, or e ',. ,• ores • which appear years after, and • the c(ns e irmete of gill Hoe, and DC.INCAN are constilted daily JO" oo r improper treatment.—Messrs. Coorrcs Scbi or by letter, containing a fee; aud ha ve.advice on'Tuesdays, Thursdays, anti u ~„..nutls till 12 o'clock. =--There is a side_ door sow !..- rooms for females. O f; 11/EWING ON THE DoiccAs'rEit s‘r* . , STAKES, Sal. 4 1 t . Taken---31 to 1 agst. MaritOraes. " - Taken-6 to.l apt. Waterloo. Taken-6f to 1 agst. Rembrandt. Taken -7 to 1 agst. Raspipg. • •.' Taken-11 to 1 agst. Lucifer. . 11. to 1. agst.. Wat beote Lase. -bl it,ra1e........., • IS to 1 agst. Mr. Powlett's e. v , . . COAL MARKET, SarrEsfirtil 4 .. ? Art , 0, Ships at Itfarket. Ships sold. • . 1 to ,4; ' 4 l. . 22-I•. ...... 86s. (.',.• 4 4 3, Al , 231 N S a i . e t 71 I ; I' led: COAL 7, . ..l o t . . . . . ... : : : ......3 8: : 6 9 a t:: i 7 . ;.0. I Cinders Korth, Esq.. o f a daughter. t itts o •BIitTHS. I°. On Tuesday, ni Lanc i n g, he Lady of Charles-o .- r . - tor' k - Ati o: l, tl e m id :Rt a lzlt: h t t h the It f iVi r c v i . l , .11tolittlinEnC1);.:IcCibilial:yn: 11:1.',/,..raf°,70:4:::: ton and Anther, and Vicar of Snettishath, ja ,' ef ooff ' E. ' llrs l 'l : ttesdav, at St e re r a o tbatn " ,l:po s lei''' . ell att' ' t a 114 4 Patti', - Cl . ntrell-yard, to Ntargaret Vie us bec°4l- at stf ee ha l" i I''• i " c liter a rge Evans, Esq, of Batimus-bill. r gepP W' : of VT Sarne day, Jubn Wilkins Williamson ', Esq' t ° ,) ugbt ° ' - ~ Missell-square, to Ilcurietta , Anne, ion n g e' ' ► 4 II ' ins,, Gcorr,6 Shi:no, Eici. M.P. of Beciford-squoTo;r6l°,. . °a Tuesday, at tbstrom, F. It.Ntills, F.sq. a - ",vite P e ' nor place, 1° Carnlipe, youngest daughter. of th `", C' Butticaz, of Harrow. :~,.~ • _.,;,,,••01.1". 01 Prif tIV 2 ti •B. cAttsrAllt i. LON I) tct i"gs; onfi br W. A, 0 1 : t ilt at th e : , ;( , :4-Orrscm, Nn. Straral; wa.,osdaro ;"llts)Qrticrs,Lctters,&e. c,po3claid) 001" pa l DIED. serif.) Yesterday, the. 4th inst . at the hosne Pt go o6l . street, Mrs. Anne Fl a dgate, aged 8 1 • p a chfl ° ,l o o_, On the IJth tilt. at Cocker' viel i,dlVjoh ib 'Naylor, relict of the late Captitio Titania, :B•,:isoir, 1 .1/ ink, in the county of (:unthetl4ndi ""%:,ter.:.:4o, ' tia ;t o4l .! EN. of .Thurnhant Hilt s no l ' l ' ll oo v" bo Waterford, Jame* Lall%in; Esq.. Counse f9 . r,Ocrly Deputy Rettorilcr of Kilkenny.