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IIVII ) IiMIAL 1)A R.LIAMENT. lIOUSE di LORDS, FRIDAY ' JUNE 7. i)YdreS DIVOACE. The flotse heard forth& evidence on the sub ject' of Dyotes Divorce ; and one of the witnesses deposed,to several facts, showing that Oederal ilyot and his wife did not live happily together, though some oiliers.depbsed to the contrary.— e furl her . prOceedinit was p os tponed till : ~lnn~lay, svherCtlie'Sfitnes'scs, and . one Hannah Ashmore, Who had been a servant in the faniily,Weie Ordered to attend. COl"``. The Earl of LAuntitr,ALE inoved for . several 'l'Aners to' stilt* the State tit — tile Irish Silver Cldnlge, 'which were ordered to he nrildneed. 'the Earl of t:tst.t.itivoi . 4 nisi) movell for titrther Papers on the State ut the Silver C(ii . n, tivlilch were Ordered. flie : 6 : iviCList Bill was cotnittitted and repnitatl, alitl articled for tt third r e ading. oil Tuesday. ABUTS DIVORCE. , Their Lordships having resolved Into a Coin itiittee on this Rill, The Earl of EAUDRIIDALE proposed the intro duction of a clause ; for soaking a suitable pro%i sion fur Lady Abily. She brought a fossilise of 10,000/. ; and the object of the clause was, to secure au annuity for her to the amount of the interest of that stint The Earl of Ltsteatex stater, that Sir William .Abay had no objection to making nsuitable pro vision for the Lady; but he did not consider that it alight to be to the amount proposed. .tiOnic father conversation ensiled between the Noble Earls, in which the Loan tuAticELLott -pattitipated ; the latter suggested his, opinion of the propriety of a. middle course, namely, a provi sion of about 4001. a year ; and, in the result, an Amendment to that died was agreed to by their Lorilships. The Earl of LAUDEUDALP, then stated his in tention to move the omission of .the clause for probibiting the intermarriage of, the offending parties. •Thongh such a clause was for .several 'past introduced into all Divorce JBills, der a reeentAtatiding Order, yet be belivcil there was but one instance (that of an aggravated case) in which it was. sulfured to remain. Alluding briefly to the letters of the parties which had been ,)riveted, he expressed his opinion, there was no thing in them to induce the conclusion, that,the *dulterons intercourse took place in consequence Of any previous promise of martiage being made. He '‘'vOuld - accordingly inove, that the dame be expunged. , • ! Lord KENYnti entertained. and enforced a con , teary opini.m. He pointedly referred to the tenor nod substance of the letters, frptn'which he ill fttral, that the Ta4tly was inlueed so to act), in 'Consequence of a con :lent expectation, Or assur tnee ofa marriage with liei• . paramiltfr. plc tbillight the ivai a case in Which, on a principle of morality!, their torthhips should practicOly adherc. 1 - k Ole nit iwg 'Order. Tifol - ifahlop Ckeast cointided in opinion Aith rive Notrie Lora. A T E - N . ' t 01'4 AIM at some length Ta.r the plopriety of ainitting the prohibitory clause. 'A consideration of the kThd , he thought, Vianfil be rilenhaitii by . snnye gencral centennent, sutl not incidentally he Made a prorisidn lh a pa tate Piill, lVftei• it feiv worth from . tbe LonnCir generally . in support "of what fell from kord • Kenyon, The-question was then . pnt,'on the chine stand. lug ,mart at the Bill, when time MAN.!, Chairman Aidared his Opinion that the Non•COntents had it ; in consequence the chime was expunged. The Report was ordered to be received on lionday. _ `Lord -Kitik:YoN gnve notice. Of his intention to movelhe re-i►►ser'tion of the clause on the 3d read ing of the BM. inisn LANDLORDS' BILL Tire tari of LIMItitICK moved the Order for their Ltirdihips to go into a Committee on this bill. He advertcd to the;great importance•of the tneasnre, and regretted that the attendance was not theta so lull as in lite former part of the even ing.: As an 'individual, he was not particularly unxions for .t hr 'measure, and would be glad to agree to any clauses proposed by any Noble Lord that would tend to ameliorate the Bal. He most particularly -desired the assistance of the Noble a nd Leahied Lords in the discussion. At the same tiate, he' wished that nothing may be proposed that would prevent the Bill passing this SesSion. Earl STANnort stated a variety olobjections to the Measitre as then before the House, and which he enlorail with his accustomed logical acu men, blended wftb his peculiar sallies of !amour. He ten% eared several ul its leadingproVisionsi as oppressive sod unjust. in this extreme at alnst the tower orders of the Irish peasantry, Whir would' he left exposed to sift the mtprincipled rapacit y of middlemen, and manbers in consequence literally turned out to starve throUghout the coutteq, where there was no Poor Laws, 'as in this, ttiatford them relief. He adverted to several amendments which he thought necessary to be introduced ittto the Bill, not only to make it worthy of enactment, but tolerably in ulnae. The Earl hf LtmEtocx i iottly replied to the observations of the Noble Earl, which he deemed Water 'calculated for the Committee; anti express edihis disapprobation of the idea of introducing Nfor I.,wws lute leelaud. Earl STANnot.e 'did not• lay that these laws btrcyuld . be introduced intotbat country, but bad therely , adverted to their non-existence there. • The'Fitnite then resolved into th e Co mm i t t ee , when sOrne progress was, made in the discussion of .the Bill. Lordl4 itedestietie,, Holland, the Lord . thancclior, and the Earls a Limerick and Stan hope, were the Speakeet.— Some amendments were adopted: buf it seemed a prevalent opinion in the Committee, that like Bill had better be di vided into isn't), as ilte'first and last parts 'of the Bill Watt their' Lordshits were rather'of a dis. (Met nature. And in the future amelioration of the measure, the assistance'of the Law Lords, was much relied on. in the result the liuuse resumed, - Ina the Chnunithe iiras oraera tl►era4 again on Thursday next. ALtth The Loan CHANCELLOU haring adverted tonne of the clauses which ►vosid render the presence of . the Learned INtiges on ‘Vednesaay next ue— cessary,:. Lord. 1141.LAN6 tonit'H the iipporintrit y tO state, that probably he should have to propose certain questions to those Lea'rned Personages on that duy, .which he • conceived would arise out of a legal view attic subject, of which the Alien WI forin cd a part, .should that measurc unfortunately re. ceive a second reading "front their Lordships On the preceding day.—Adjourned till Monday. HOUSE 01? .COMMON'S. %tiopolii 1'4%14 Bill went through the:Committee. Beton to he,emisilicieti on Monday se • liniKht. Tivn Petitions were precented from Ket4o—out' from the Leatliei Dealers and the other from the Spirit Alen:limits, be. A *as presented rrom Penzance respecting the Poor La ill; _ . 'rim Loral Nor fill teas i.oitt :s• third time. The Waterrr,l ttorhour Bill •Svetst through the Committee. Report on Nlointty. SIiAW ',resented it Petition (*.Om the Pia, riildotlt4s a st.Geor o 's, Ilitnover-squitre, °tithe lubjeet Of the New StreVt s , trd "ewer. Th, Ainrrititit Convention Amendment Bill wits ordered to be'contitiilteti on Moodily. N WFOUNDLAN D. &c. Tile Howe %m it into a Committee on the Acts respectin g Newfoundland, &c. 61r. F. ROBINSON Obtained leave to bring.in n bill to re• toe carryingol passengers between Newfoundland and Labrador. In answer to it qitestion from Mr. Brougham, Mr. r.yitn.. binson said, that last year ii,ood per,ons went hum 'Maud to Newfonntlitid. The Bill was hronght op, and read st first time. • Serceant 01SL0W loom:lit up the report of the Fraudu lent Devises litll :to he read a third time on Nlonday. • Mr. BROUGHAM lirought up the report of the Commit tee on Editcation. Their lahours, we understood !limit) say, might not he terminated this Session. • A new Writ W.,‘ ordered for Galion, in the room of Sir•tV. Congrevei who has accepted the Chiltern Hundeedi. The Lottery:Bill was lead a third tiMe.• editomotst DILL.. Mr. SHAW LEPEVRE at some length deprecated the impropriety of hi inging forward this measure at the present moment, when the conntry misla bonting under Sc) Many hartkhips. The feelings of the country bad not been properly attended to, ~and he•therefore Moved as mitt amendment that the Bill be read It tFecund tithe this day six months. - Mr. Goat LAsoroN titientitleti the IllotiOtt. GRAHAM agreed that every attention bad been ahewn to the feelings of the countrv,reml every Measure adopted to girt: publicity to the Considering the allowances of the Coroners to be extremely inadequate, heopposed the amend ment.- After a tong conversation, in which, Mr. Broughton, Mr. M. Sutton, Alr. Ciirweti, Mr. Lamb, Mr. Swann, Mr. 11 7 01, Smith, Mr. J. !smith, defier.) Thurlittm, Lilo Ali, float; pa'ttici- Inttrti, the [tithe divided— _ For the Amendoivut, 19—Atzaint The - CHANCELLOR of the Excity:du - crt moved that the llottoe at its rising adjourtt till Monday.— Agreed to. sitxr.tt cotNAGN.. Lord Aucti., 1-IAMILTON eomillered that the tisstie of the new Coinage would be very burtfid to persons who were holders of old Coin, soul he wished to know whether they would be remu nerated ? The persons apt to be most injured were the poorer class of society. 1-le Was rather surprized no notice had been taken of the present circulation of Bank T o k e ns. Mr. Rost{ agreed it 'would be a very great in convenience indeed, but it could not be avoided. Yet persons loving good money would ,be remit- Iterated, as the persons at the Mint would give full value for it. With respect to the Bank ToLens, it was not any way singular that no notice had been taken of them, us the Bank had pledged themselves, whet) they issued them, to take them in again at full value, and no doubt but they were bound to redeem that pledge. Mr. FRAN/CLAIM 141wt5 recommended the issue of Gold Coin of the value of 20 instead of 2l s . as calculated to he replete with sill pos , ible con venience. The Bullion question had been ren dered much more difficult (rain the want of a spe cific tangible substance equivalent to a ponnd. . In his opinion the coinage ought not to take place during.the Batik Restriction, as any variation in the price of the precious metals would cause it to be melted and sent out of the country. In any case, he recommended that the issue of Gold and Silver Coin should be simtiltimeous, • Mr. ChnNveLL conceived that his Noble Friend had fallen into an error, in supposing that the Bank would not be great losers on calling in their Tokens. They would have to pay 3s. for what was intrinsically worth but 2s. 4d. The whole of. the proposed plan had his suOport, hist he wast`ne ' vertheless.desirous that the pieces of gold to be issued should be of 20s. and not of 21s, value. Lord A. HAMILTON explained. Mr. TnottNTox, after aliening how heavily the Batik would suffer on calling in their Tokens, said that he could see no objection to the altera• don of the Gold Coin from the value of 21s. to thtit of 20s. Mr. W. Pour, as the Noble Lord had-not.heen present the oilier evening when he wade his de tailed statement, repeated that part of it which related to the mods; in which it was i n t en d e d to ,convey the new coinage into circulation. With respect to the assertion of the Noble L or d, that b e , believed great distress already existed from the refusual of the old coin, lie conceived that the Noble Lord was mistaken. The 'fact was,: that a' considerable quantity ot French' coin bad been in troduced into circulation, ttid that the moment th e public knew what was about to take !deice, they refused 'it. Bow was this to he obviattni Were Goveronient. to take-all the coin that hAtl been thrown into the country by smugglers diving the last twelve months ) Means had been taken, in concert with Ow Batik oVII:oglund (.0110 'had itliewnthe utmost readiness 011 the.MCCHSiOII) to diminish the evils that, might remit from diffi culty iti. passing the Coin of the itrsbn by the Issue of Bank Tokens.: :lint on lit Li Rubjeil. lie was happy to find that no stick distke s s existed i , as he in the first instance apprebetided wo* sec- Curs at soon as .the intention of or ttr i og coinage Siitluid be• pt•nuitlgateil ills view of the arrangement that should take place Mien the new Coin came to be issued waso that no person should , • iite.lo go mote than 13 milel t 6 Cr,i ii. The Noble Lord had asked, what would be - come of the Batik Tokens when the new *Coin Yeas issneds? *(Mr. Pole) thought that the ill , starit the new Coin began to be cireilateat, the ' Batik Toisent na)uld be brought in to itte tVith respect 10 the Gold 'COM of 211 s. lie owned that what had been sald by the Hon. Celiac mem-opposite, as Well as net of thous s, hail 'consi derable weight With hint. The fis'et was, that the Con mittee on the' Coin had feared to alter the tie nonditation of the Gold Coin, lest the exchange Should be affected. They also felt That it tillght lead to ktgre,mmt ekpenee. 140 n. Metn i rs'er had said, that there were not 500,000 gli!neas in the Nino try, ekelesively of those in the Work. flow was this to be ascertained When Lola! iliverpool wrote ou the subject in 1803, his Lordship as serted that there were 30,000,000 Of guitieis in the country. If there shotild turn tint to be any thing 'like that number, a great ekpence would be incurred by cowing them into pounds. Still, however, he thought the suggeStiou eu titled to great attention ; and he trecly owned; that since the Report, he bad began ttS think that there . ; ought to he Gold Coin of the s!dite of ,20 shillings, and .had determined to recommetid to the Committee 0n Coils when they should next meet, to take it Mtn consideratiritt-i—(Hear, hear, bear !)-'-- he. Honoprable Gehtlemau proceeded. to relate the history of the guinea, and concluded, by expressing..his satisfaction that the necessity of a New Coinage. seemed to be geeerally felt, and his hope that a question of such magnitude would be discusseireith good humour and a dis position to unanimity. Mr. F. Lawts and Mr. W. Pote mutually.ex• planned. Mr. I), GiDDY referred to 'the fate of the Copper Coinage twenty years ago, to illustrate the necessity of making the coin inferior in value to the Market price of tile metal. Ile approved, therefote, of the seignorage to be taken ; bet he thought it would he also right to arm Government with a power of relnsing to coils silver et the dis cretion ut those who might bring it to the ;11int for that purpose, lest it shoold he eitculated is too gt eat quantities. • added •liis testimony to the great expedieocy of coining gold pieces of the valise of 20s. bistead of the value of 21s. Division by Decimals was I)) far time moat convenient mode of calculation. He owned that he considered the proposed ineasere'as an unequivocal pledge on the part of ICtovernmeot to compel the Bank of Eng land to resume their cash payineios at the first possible momeet ; and in this, ais well as in other pointa of view, he considered the plan to be high 7 y adviscabl e. Mr. CaoKva rematked on the different modes by which the value of our circulating mediton was escertnined, Gold was, weighed by carats, silver by the pound Troy weight, and copper by Avoir dupois. The proposition note made to introduce a new coin into our 'currency, went to idler the relative value 'of every piece of coin in the realm. Ile did not object to it on that account, but be wha l ed to press on the lionse, Matt time prese nt was a most favourable took y for -giving sil the pat t, of our eirrelatiog meanie, a decimal relation to et►(h citha.T. Perlosp, it Might b e we ll to .t o dlow the example set its by the French. The Revolution had enabled them to make a thange in their money. We had now a fnir opportunity for sitting the same. Ou this subj ec t be would throw out, butt %I-Ith great diffi dence, a proposition for the consideration of the House. He would not vetiture to 110 this, if the coinage abotit to take place had been intended to be precisely on the old principle ; butt whets this was departed from, and the little of system which hail regulated our currency front' the time of the Conquest was tisrown out, he thought it might not be' an improper time far him to otter those suggestions n hich had occtirred to Isis mitsd. If every OanCe 44 gold was to divided :boo five parts, each of then) woeld be of the value of 20 shillings of the new cniu, and each shilling woeld be worth 1011. of the, present money. The value : of an 07., of gold wits ninety-nine shillillgS and seven pence half penny and the pound weight of silver was equal to 'eighty .shillitigs, nits there was every facility for such an arrangement as that which he proposed, And by which time gold coin should consist of 20 shilling pieces, and the shilling o f ten-peace. We should then have our coi n on time same principle which had been almost univer sally adopted by our neighbours and calculated wholly by decimals, He was very sorry that the (petition had come on so much by surprise, and at so late a period of the Session ; h ut st ill t h e advantages of the decimal calculation would be so greet, that even if its hdoptioo were to cruise som e delay in the stspply of the new Coin, he thought this would be an' ohjectiou which should he orer looked in attaining so important a point. It would be almost unpardonable for the Legislature at this time tore-enact anti legalize anew those barbarisms in the division of our eoiO which were attended with great inconvenience. It was from a stn nog feeling of (luny that he wea.induced to 'cap the at tention of the House to this set* ct ; and the tpiestion had conic so stokienly tip4m him, that he had not made any celcelatioit nu the subject which he could bring forward with cimfidence„.hut lie begged Gentlemen to turn their attention to the subject, in which case he had no doubt that salae very - ativantogeoes arrangement might be made for carrying this system into effect. itAitING, agreed, th;tt 3 t would be &great convenience to have the - guineas issued,at 20s. in stead of 2fs, ; but he did not think the wirange- Utent of the coin by decimals would be attended with the saute advantages. It would have been well had it been acted upon from th e fi rst , h ut at present it would ouly'teml to puzzle and 'confute t h e co mmo n people. He admitted that the divi sion of a'guinea of 20s. intolialves, quarters, and sometimes eighth's,. would be much more 'conve `nient than the present method, of dividing a &- nes into thirds. If def!inials could be foond practicable, he'woulti not object to them ; but he feared they- would be atteuded.with more inCOll - thAnlitivAtitige. - As to the calculations of the relative value of the coins, - lie titbit - hi:dill tle Itnpurtaricc4n them---dhat was not thequestion be e !Muir the thing was, not to have them go above orhelow K cettain.:value.- Neither was it of any consequence to have au unit ft-out os= NIT. it was absurd and unnecessary to go to !; l*k" h • W__en any mitt .. sVii 1 (5).01 which was generally agreed to. IVith regain tti: the 4nail . tity of guinea§ in circulation in the cutiti' try, he Aid not think 41'4 amounted to eat: 500,6061 indeed, speaking getief•allv, end excel*' What Wait in the coffers of the hank of 11A47 - land, he would 'stilt there was no gold .to the cow , try; the coinake, thereore,`'of the guineas la 'Circulation into 20s. pieces, would be Attended with little difficulty and eipcnce ; and he Was. certain the Bank would have fin hesitation tti ietnin them. Mr. CilottEß, eklibittation; iihierved , that OW:A! would he no difficnty in the arrangem en t of tle*coilt biy etecinfls.. Iterand this plan 110 heed followed. Bank tokens of lOtl. and sd. had been issued end yet it hall tint decasioncti any blundering among the COmnitni people, the contrary, it had been atteifded With litany ttd 'vantages. itititateast.Ey said a few wortit, which tire uhderstood to be against decimal arrangemen t. Mr. .1. I', GRAitT Contended, that it Would be impolitic and hazardous to issue a new coinage during the restriction of cash payments by Bank of England. He regretted that silver not made the standard intteaa of gold. It was titi in most °diet- countries in Etirope. This moult not be attended with those inconveniencies which had resulted front it in Prae; for whether silver or gold was the standard i n this country, Paper would still continue to 'he the currency for Dirge sums, as long as public credit eoutintied "" in " paired: • \Me.•W. Pole and Mr. J: P. Grant severally Mr. MARRYAT did, not think that t he change to decimal; would be attended with 'ant/ advantage'. The Bill was then lead a second dux. On t i ' d question that it he cot:twitted, Mr. Gueio , tir.t. expressed his lati4action what h a d fallen front the liic..;ht Hon. Gentleman opposite' (Mr. W. Pole) relatt‘e to the coinage' of guineas to the ratite of ` s. At the same time: he hopen the Right Holt: Gentleman would gest to t;.e Gotamittee of Coinage to takC Dr°s tsge on the Gold Co:n. It would thereby run t h e less risk of being melted down, (to n rke iu l ila Drive of gold. This the practice in almost every country in Europe. Mr. W. PoLit could not at all attend to the suggestion of the llon, Member (Mr. arenfeill. That taking of Braysa;re would be au act of Justice to the holder of the gold afterwards. IN/ 6 Locke, in writing ag.tittst Lowndes, directly o . lv. ,deinned4ini retutetl this plan of taking RtassaP,, as unjust. . Mr. By.ttus supported the suggestion of b * t# lion. Friend (Mr. ttrenfell), its he conceived i 4 would directly prevent what would be likely 11) , take place on it rise in gold above the price 0 . 1 coin, politely, the Melting down of the goinett 9 ",., Mr. FlusKtssnx contended that the ta king 04 , Prassage would be unjust." It wits the column other countries ; should be recollected country was pectilhily - circumstanced in 01COrola age, which it below its regulat weight w ould t.e.le 4 ' to he corruot. tart Mr. W. opposed the taking of -Bil l "' .(as we ninterstouti lion in the gallery). The Bill was ordered to be committed 1 " t " . day. sTAGE contiF.S. (11 The ATTORNEY-GENER A L gave mv that ice, 44 It Mouthy he should move for leave to bring / Bill 10 amend the Act toe the better secoli"g Ic 1 , 4 " persons travelling in Stage Coaches. _ had several applications made to him on Oil' "1. 0 j m ect,fro persons who had witnessed tile dit t l e l to Avhich passengers by those coaches ure r t , Dosed. Front the opposition which existe d tweets many of those coaches, ande tall t h" 4l manner in which they endea‘'Oared to pas 4 e `. ll other ou "Ole road,, it was at present quite I t to travel. The punishment whi c h was viNrirtle d cases of misconduct of this kind at present w 4s. tine of ten pounds. This was •insufficient to cr strain them, and its intended effect was completois lust by the interference 61 the proprietors cf tio " coaches, who frequent ly'Say to the coachmen co tta victed, " Yon drove the coach well, you beta ti, // , opposition coach, and I wiil pay the line for yo"' The object of the Bill which he intended .to troduce was to gibe iNl,itg4tr,sites the power,uf dieting corporaLptinistiment tot suds d r ivels 1111 shall be convicted of ross neglect in drivitqr (I.lear; hear 1) WNINtIrIEE OF SUPPLY. ' % On the motion of C the CHANELLOR or the P . CHEQUER the Hous e rewired itselt into. ft C ( " l r a muter of Supply, and the klieellancoas Setvi O' were drdered to be referred thereto. ELGIN MARBLES: The }louse having resolved itself into s CO* . mittee of Supply, Mr. 11.NKI4S rgSe for the purpose of propoOt that a stint should be voted by th e Conhuitttir tvi the purchase of tlime most valuable works of arts which had been brought to this country by 1,( " 4t Eigin. Although he might hare, on varions oc'cji shuts., uand it his duty to oppose the gran" 4) .:, public money, p..t he had never done so in Oil case where the purpose for which they were re: gained :was a io:cessary one, or where the 010 13 'j was to he expended on any thing iil % Oki' 1 14 dignity and reputation of the country lye" Th e 1 1 , 1; serued. at every thing connected , ect e d frith v. promotion of the Fine Arts was of the latter t r.: seription, tt, : e hoped . few would be prepared t"''!'; pate. Even during the late nar, nhicti It v precsure on the-financial resources of the e"" (r .', l had been severe beyond all precedent, the FL"' - had listened williog - ty to a proposal for th e 4 " 4. penditure of a large .sum on objects collne e ' n " with the Fine Arts, a n d fitted to enlighte l : improve the taste of the country. lie wi , "' l " bPI to call the attentiou of the Committee 10 t lta io signs expended during the pressure of the woriitl purchasing objects of this description. He O ti t is refer to the - Townshend manuscripts anti: Townielan ctoilcction of marbles ; also tO more, recent: Athhess for the erectloo " t 1 44„ monument to mm coemorate the victbry o f terlon, and even the more distant eitt° l l '.l*raftil g , ar. In these cases it was not the of 'the expellee which had been eoll side" „ s but-rather the national reputation and 0 01 1_ .;„, 'ln speaking of monuments to sustain th e I ' l 7o Wiwi of the nation, it was natural ref°