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the institution of these suits. Had read the Municipal Cor porations Reform Bill. A revenue of 18,0001. a year would be handed over under the Bill to popularly-elected trustees. Houses in Bedford were rated as low as 21. a year, Occupiers of such low-rated tenements would be entitled to vote under the proposed Bill. Thought the present system far the best. Popular election was contrary to the original intention of the founders of the charities. DAVENTRY. Examined by Mr. KNIGHT-Mr. Burton was the town clerk of Daventry. Boundary Commissioners visited on Fri day last the borough of Daventry, to fix the boundaries under the Bill now before the House of Lords. Witness afforded them every facility. They produced a Commission. The Earl of R ADNOR remarked that there was no peti tion from Daventry. After some conversation, in which Lord ELLENBOROUGH, the Earl of DEVON, and Lord BROUGHAM joined, Counsel were informed by Sir L. SHAOWELL that no examination would be permitted of witnesses from places from whence there had been no petition unless by order of the House. The Duke of BUCCLEUCH then presented a petition from the Corporation of Daventry, praying to be heard by Counsel. The petition was then read, and ordered to lie on the table. Lord BROUGHAM objected, on the grounds that there were no special circumstances to entitle Daventry to be heard by counsel. Lord ELLENBOROUGH did not think any particular benefit would accrue to Daventry from being heard. The Duke of BUCCLEUCH explained the cause of the delay in the presentation of the petition. Counsel was then called in and the examination was re sumed. POOLE. Mr. town clerk of Poole, described the constitution of the Corporation. Corporate funds amounted to about 8001. a year. The population of Poole was about 8,000. The mayor and four other magistrates were resident. A bye-law of the Corporation required residence. The magistrates were not chargeable with negligence or abuse of duty. Had given uni versal satisfaction. There was a Court of Quarter Sessions and an Admiralty Court. The Corporation consisted of men of considerable wealth, and many were merchants. There were 160 vessels belonging to the port. Thought the election of a town council not so advantageous for the purposes of local government as the present constituted Corporation. By the Earl of RADNOR—Corporation funds were em ployed in defending the actions of the Corporation relating to encroachments on the harbour. By Sir C. WETHERELL—Thought the funds justly applied in defraying the expense of the conduct of that action. Popular election would not be for the improvement of Poole. Poor rates amounted to about 7,0001. The Corporation paid 2,5001. the inhabitants the remainder. Shipping at Poole was rated for the poor rates, an usage peculiar to Poole. The Corpo ration had given general satisfaction. By Lord BR 0 LTC HAM.—There were parties dissatisfied. The parties satisfied were most numerous, wealthy, and influ ential. A new constituency would be introduced under the new Bill. There were 8,000 inhabitants in the ancient limits. Persons residing in the limits paid 135., out of them 3s. or 4s. in the pound. The Bill of the Solicitor to the Corporation was last year 1,6001. By Sir C. WETHERELL—The bill was large in amount in consequence of the Corporation opposing a project for the erection of a bridge. Thought the opposition advisable and judicious. By the Earl of RADNOR—Three hundred pounds had lately been placed at the disposal of a Committee for the pur pose of opposing the Municipal Corporations Bill. Another witness confirmed the statement of the preceding witness. BRIDGEWATER. Mr. examined by Mr. KNIGHT-Witness had been town-clerk for the borough of Bridgewater twenty-two years. The appointment was during good behaviour. Described the constitution of the corporation. I never heard any complaints of the Magistracy as long as I have known the Borough. Justice has always been administered very impartially. The town is a well-governed, quiet town. The police is sufficient for all ordinary occasions. The revenue is 700/. a-year. There is a debt of 1,2001. The revenue is applied to the payment of the interest of this debt, and to the paving of the streets. The Corporation has several charities under its ma. nagement. The principal charity is called Morgan's Charity, and is directed to the education of 100 boys. It was confined to the members of the Established Church. The income of the estate by which the charity is supported is 1201. The Parliamentary Charity Commissioner had examined into the management of this charity. He had expressed himself per fectly satisfied that the funds were properly applied. Recol lected the occasion of the Corporation Commissioners visiting Bridgewater. A person of the name of Lovebond, a leading member of the Bridgewater Political Union, attended the Com missioners, and it was at his suggestion that the questions were put by them to the witnesses. The Commissioners were, in fact, but Mr. Lovebond's mouthpiece. The witness was ex amined by the Commissioners. His examination was that of an accused person rather than as evidence. The Commission, each day on leaving the Court where they met were escorted by a deputation of the Political Union. The leading mem bers of the Union generally walked arm and arm with the Commissioners. It was, in fact, a juxta position of Ceminis sioners and Political Unionists. In his opinion all the resp:q•- tability andintelligence of Bridgewater was favourable to t!le existing system of corporate management. DONCASTER: Mr. Fisher, the t3wn-clerir. 01 Doncaster, was next exa mined—The Corporation was one of ancient date. It was dated in 1193. The borough once returned ?,.'embers for Par liament, but had not for many }ears. The prop e rty o f th e Corporation amounted to 11,6101. 6a. 10d. per annum. Under the existing charter, the otlicers of the Corporation were su!)- ject to his Majesty's approbation, but that would cease shoed the Bill pass. The Corporatiun consisted of a mayor, re corder, townelerk, three burgesses. twelve aldermen, and twouty-four common councilmen. Except the maym-, t;:e Corporation oflicers were appointed for life. o..ving to good ntmagement, the property of the Corporatiol; had consider ably increased. In Doncaster there was no borough rate ; and, in the opinion of the witness, such a rate would never be requisite. The Corporation defrayed the ch:zrg-es of impro...e moot, lighting, paving, and watering, and, in addition, su!:- scribed largely to the charities of the borough. The Corpo. ration had expended nearly 20,0001. in providing additional accommodation for the frequenters of Doncaster races. The races were a great advantage to the town, and, consequen such an outlay was a direct benefit to its inhabitants. In no instance had the Corporation subscribed for any political pur pose. The Corporation of Doncaster was considered the beat corporation in England, and he did not think its system was in any way capable of improvement. There was a party in Doncaster, desirous of getting possession of the corporate funds; and, considering their amount, it was not wonderful they should have such a desire. There was 2 ; 050 houses in Doncaster. Of these 273 were rated at upwards of 10/., and 1,772 at under 10/. The former class paid in rates far more than the latter. The persons desirous of change were priori. pally those rated at al., below which sum no house was rated. The Magistrates of Doncaster performed their duties much to the satisfaction of the inhabitants. SHREWSBURY. Mr. Peel, a member of the Corporation of Shrewsbury, was next examined. The material parts in his evidence re lated to the expenditure of the Corporation funds, and the ad ministration of justice by the borough magistrates. Both one and the other gave perfect and unqualified satisfaction to the majority of the inhabitants. The funds were exclusively applied to the benefit of the town and district. The Corpo ration was popular with the majority of the inhabitants. The Dissenting interest was against the Corporation on account of the mode of election. The proposed change could not be satisfactory to the wealth or respectability of the borough. ROCHESTER.. Captain Burton, a Commander in the Navy, and residing at Rochester, was next examined. He was not connected with the Corporation. As an inhabitant he was perfectly sa tisfied with the existing system of corporate management. He did not wish for change, nor did he think any change de. sirable. Mr, Manning, a Gentleman of property, residing at Rochester, gave similar testimony to that of the last witness. At half-past nine o'clock, Sir C. WETIIERELL suggested an adjournment, but in com pliance with the directions of the House proceeded with the case of KIDDERMINSTER. The Law Agent of the Corporation was the first witness examined. The last charter of incorporation passed the Great Seal in 1828. It was applied for in consequence of the insufficiency of the number of magistrates under the preced ing Charter. It was here suggested that as no petition had been presented from the Corporation, evidence could not be given. The wit ness accordingly withdrew. Sir C. WETHERELL then intimated that he was not that evening prepared to go on with any other case. He expected by the mail to-morrow a supply of witnesses. Counsel were then ordered to withdraw. The Marquis of SALISBURY thought it now became im portant they should know at what period a stop was likely to be put to the present inquiry. It appeared that no case was ready for that evening, but a fresh edition was promised for the morrow. Now, where was the inquiry to terminate? It appeared to him that so much doubt had been already thrown upon the Report of the Commissioners, and so much stated in direct contradiction of their statements, that it was scarcely worth while going further with the inquiry, unless they were prepared to go through the entire list of boroughs.—( Hear.) He certainly would be glad to know to what length the in quiry was to be carried. Cord L YND H UR ST said that the delay was not sought for the purpose of extending the evidence to other cases not now before the House, but for the purpose of allowing time for the arrival of witnesses. The Noble Lord seemed to labour under a misapprehension, for the only absent witnesses remaining to be heard were some in support of petitions which their Lord ships had already determined upon hearing. Lord BROUGHAM rather took the same view of the matter as the Noble Marquis, who said that he was perfectly satisfied with the case against the Report on the evidence as it at pre sent stood. He ( Lord Brougham) was entirely satisfied with the evidence, but the conclusions which he drew from it were, be feared, directly opposite to those of the Noble Marquis. The evidence ought now to be closed, and if the Noble Mar quis would make a motion to that effect, he (Lord Brougham) would most cordially second it. The Earl of FALMOUTH thought their Lordships had decided, on last Monday night, upon hearing evidence in sup. port of certain petitions before the House, and if that were the case, witnesses ought certainly to be-allowed sufficient time to arrive. After an observation from Lord BROUGHAM and the Markiuis of- SA LISBUR-Y, Tho Da* of WELLINGTON said that as it was abso. lutely necessary that the Bill itself should be as speedily u possible taken into consideration and decided, he entreated their Lordships not to expend their time in hearing more evi dence than was essentially necessary. The Counsel might conclude their evidence at an early hour to-morrow, and that would give time for the House to see what further proceedings should be taken on the Bill. If the inquiry were now extended it would occasion a very great loss of time, by delaying to the close of the Session the consideration of the Bill in the Com mittee. The Earl of HAREWO OD thought one of the objects of hearing evidence had been to show the House that there was a great variety of interests in the different boroughs. That had already been shown, and was of itself quite sufficient to pre clude the necessity of an examination of the state of every bo rough in the kingdom. It was sufficient if it had been shown that there was such a variety of interests as would render this Bill extremely difficult in its working. The Earl of MANSFIELD apprehended that the question of bearing evidence was only decided from a sense of justice towards the petitioners. The case having been once opened, to stop it now would occasion great difficulty ; but as the in quiry would in all probability be interminable if every case were examined it now became necessary for the House to in terfere. The petitioners had been fully heard to the extent allowed by the House, viz., against the principle of the Bill as it would affect them. Lord EL LENB ORO UG H apprehended that their Lord ships were bound to abide by their own order. They had agreed to hear evidence, and if Counsel thought fit to produce that evidence the House was bound to receive it. It would be a totally different thing if the House were asked to renew its order. He thought that sufficient evidence had been laid before their Lordships to induce them to make some altera tion in the clauses respecting proprietory rights, but it would certainly be unjust to prevent the evidence from proceeding. Lord BROUGHAM said that the House was certainly bound by its order, and all those persons who had presented petitions were undoubtedly entitled to be heard. There were now five cases remaining to be disposed of, and he asked Sir Charles Wetherell whether he would be able to proceed with them to morrow ? Sir C. WETHERELL said that there was the case of Liver• pool and five others, which the House could proceed with. The House then adjourned at Half-past Ten o'Clock tii to-morrow (this day) at Eleven. HOUSE OF COMMONS, JULY 28. The SPEAKER took the Chair at four o'clock. Mr. T. ATTWOOD presented a petition from Birming ham, in favour of the Polish refugees. Also, one from Lieute nant Perrott, which he considered of very great importance. He considered the case as one of great injustice and cruelty. The petitioner, who before he was 23 years of age, had served in 25 battles, had commanded on several occasions—who was wounded seven times—who in 1806, lost his arm by the bursting of a gun, and who had received testimonials of character from all his Captains, was charged with defrauding the seamen, and with forgery. This had been called a trum pery affair, but this was a great man, for in the last ses sion of Parliament the Admiralty had offered him 700/., which was the arrear of pay up to 1825 ; yet this great man, who was struggling with the greatest poverty, refused the of fer of what would have been a fortune to him, because he wa3 required as a condition to withdraw his petition to this House, and to acknowledge the justice of his most iniquitous sen tence. This he refused to do ; and he (Mr. A.) thought the present Board would do a most meritorious and humane act if they would fulfil the intention without the condition. Was a man to be called trumpery who could act in such a manner ? Admiral ADAM cod(' assure the Hon. Gentleman, that if he alluded to him, he had never made use of the expression. Mr. ATTWOOD had great pleasure in hearing the state ment of the Gallant Admiral, and had not the slightest doubt that his recollection wus erroneous. The Hon. Member con cluded by moving, that the petition be printed. Mr. C. WOOD did not see that this petition brought for ward any new argument in addition to what had been advanced last year, nor did it in any way shake the statement that was then made by the First Lord of the Admiralty. With regard to the prejudice said to exist against this individual, he saw no proof of it. lie must say, that it could answer no purpose to make assertions of which the party making them could have to knowledge. It was stated that Sir J. Graham bad made an offer to this individual to pay the arrears of his pension—he was not aware of this. He would not trouble the House by entering into details ; the facts of the case were well known. This individual had been tried for disorderly and disgraceful conduct, and had been expelled the service. He did not think that there was any hardship in this case. It was known that the individual had been convicted of a very disgraceful offence, that of extorting money from poor peopha under false pretences. He was also found guilty of obtaining a pension under false representations—that he had lost his arm in his Majesty's service, although the fact was that he had lost it while on a shooting expedition for his private amusement. That alone would have been sufficient ground to have him turned out of the service. lie was sur prised, therefore, that this individual could be called an ill-used roan, for he was enjoying a pension to which he had no claim, and which many mere deserving persons did not enjoy. Admiral ADA M agreed fully in the observations of his • . the Secretary of the Admiralty, and he thought the Admiralty would have disgraced its character if it had entertairA again the case of this individual. Sir E. CODRINGTON supported the prayer of the petition. What he wanted was to see the papets—the facts of the case. The House or the country should not take every thing that was said of these individuals behind the curtain as true. Why had not this person been tried by court-martial ? It was well known that many persons were scratchedoffthe list, and deprived of their miserable pensions, without any investiga tion. A case was that day stated to him, of a poor man, up wards of seventy years old, who was thus scratched off aid deprived of his half-pay, without nay ground being alleged. It was for these reasons, that he would persevere in the mo tion of aiiieh he givca noCce. After a few words from Mr. RoanucK, Sir G. CLARK cwroborated the statement made by t!:e Secretary of the Admiralty relative to whir petition, m.d defended the conduct of the Admiralty in thin and other casts of a similar nature. No case was ever mere minutely inquired into, or more impartially disposed of than this. . . . Mr. Il U3l E had seer. cif the papers, and examined the in dividuaL,, and the convil2tion on his mind was, that LieutenalA Duadas Perrott was struck off on account of a verdict against him, for giving a protection for the purpose of getting money by it.--( Hear.) But subsequent proceedins were instituted, and the man who had given evideice against him acknowledged that the whole was a fabricatio.!. Now the Admiralty had already offered to allow him 2s. 6,i ; but while he advised Mr. Perrott to take it, he contended th,t if he was entitled to 2s. 6d. per day, he was entitled to his full allowance. He did not, however, claim that, but the allowance of 2s. 6d. per day from the time he was struck off, and that was a fair and reasonable claim. Mr. RUT H VEN said this was an important case, not ca account of the injustice to the individual, but because of the evil practice which it exposed. Sir T. TROWBRIDGE vindicated the character of Sir J. Harvey, and believed him incapable of giving such certificates as those attributed to him. Never was there a worse case than this brought before the House of Commons; it had al ready been canvassed to the fullest extent ; and be was sur prised, after what had transpired before the. House on the last occasion, that it was again brought forward. Mr. T. ATTWOOD replied, and the petition was ordered to Re on the table. Mr. CHISHOLM presented a petition from the Parochial Schoolmasters of Inverness, praying for a better allowance for their laborious duties. BREACH OF PRIVILEGE.—ARREST OF A WITNESS. Lord JOHN RUSSELL moved that Alexander Dean be called to the Bar. The witness having been brought up, stated, in answer to the Speaker, that he was sure_ moiled from Cork to give evidence before the Committee upon the timber duties—that he arrived in London on the 30th of July, and was examined before the Committee on the 31st-- that on Wednesday the sth instant he received from the clerk a calculation of his expenses, from which he considered he was discharged—that he was arrested on the morning of the 6:11 inst., and was now in custody. He delivered in the summons and some other papers. By Mr. O'CONNELL.—Had not been paid his expenses when he was arrested. The witness was ordered to withdraw. William Thomson examined—ls an officer to the Sheriff of Middlesex. Arrested Alexander Dean on the 6th inst. Mr. Dean represented that he was in attendance on a Committee of that House. Went to his solicitors, who stated that they did not consider Mr. Dean privileged, as he had been discharged by the Committee. The witness concluded by stating that if he had done wrong it was through ignorance, and ho humbly begged the pardon of the House. Mr. CALLAGHAN then moved that Alexander Dean be discharged. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL—There could be no doubt that Mr. Dean was entitled to his discharge. He was privileged in coming, staying, and returning. He thought that after complying with the motion, the ends of justice would be completely answered. The Sheriff's officer was then called to the bar, and ordered by the SPEAKER to discharge Mr. Dean. ORANGE LODGES. Mr. WALLACE begged to ask from the Hon. Member for Kilkenny (Mr. Finn) what was the name of the Deputy Grand Master of the Orange Lodges to whom he had alluded as belonging to Scotland? Mr. FINN could not give any positive testimony, but it ap. peared to him from the evidence that the Duke of Gordon was the Deputy Grand Master for Scotland.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. HUME gave notice that on Monday he would mos e for the appointment of a Committtee to continue these en quiries into the state of Orange Lodges in England. MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS. A Message from the Lords stated that their Lordships had agreed to the Truro Improvement Bill, and other private Bills. ORANGE LODGES IN IRELAND. Mr. FINN gave notice of a motion for an early day to take the sense of the House upon the legality of the institution of Orange Lodges in Ireland. UNSTAMPED NEWSPAPERS. Mr. ROEBUCK begged to ask whether in courtesy he should not be allowed the opportunity of presenting the peti tion of which he had given notice, from the individuals whose presses had been seized. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER (as we understood), assented to the request ; and Mr. ROEBUCK then gave notice, if an opportunity oc curred, he should present the petition on Monday. GREAT YARMOUTH. Mr. AGLIONBY begged to ask what steps kad been THE SUN, LONDO . , SAT taken by the Committee, relative to the three persons who were yesterday called to the Bar, and admonished ? Mr. HARDY said that these persons had been examined before the Committee. They had refused to answer some questions, and the Committee being of opinion that those an- i swers might tend to criminate themselves, had discharged them, from their attendance. . Mr. AGLIONB Y begged to move that the examination of those three witnesses be printed, with the votes, and de livered to the Members on Monday next.—( Loud cries of " No, no," followed by cries of " Hear, hear.) His (Mr. A.'s) object was to show that these questions were of the same nature as those which Prentice had refused to answer ; and if these three witnesses were allowed to go at large, Prentice should not be kept in custody.—( Hear.) Mr. HARDY would give the House a specimen of the questions.—(Cries of " No, no," " Chair," " Order," and much confusion.) The SPEAKER suggested that such a motion should not be made without notice. Mr. AGLIONBY then gave notice for Monday next. Mr. HARDY, with great vehemence exclaimed—Then, Sir, nothing shall induce me to stop any longer on that Corn mittee.—(Loud cheers.) The ATTORNEY-GENERAL, after what had fallen from his Hon. and Learned Colleague last night, begged to state that he entirely agreed with him.—( Cries of " Hear, hear," from the Opposition benches.) He thought, however, the proper course would be for the witness to wait until the question was first put. IRISH CHURCH. In answer to a question from an HON. MEMBER, Lord JOHN RUSSELL stated that it was his in tention to bring up the Report on the Irish Church Bill to night. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. The same NOBLE LORD said, that in accordance with the usual custom at this advanced period of the Session he should move the Orders of the Day to take precedence of .no es of motion.—( Hear, hear.) On the question being put, Mr. HUME agreed to the suggestion of the Able Lord, but he would ask what prospect had they of the termination of the Session.—( Cries of " Hear, hear," and cheers.) Sup posing the Bill should be rejected which was now before the other House, then it should be his (Mr. H.'s) business to submit a call of the House, to determine what measure should be adopted, in the event of this important measure being stopped. If such was the case, it was quite necessary that that House, as the great Council of the nation—( Hear, hear)—should be summoned to deliberate. Lord JOHN RUSSELL would have no objection to such a motion being made if such were necessary; his (Lord John Russell's) motion had reference merely to the ordinary business of the House. Mr. ROEBUCK suggested that the House should adjourn for 6 weeks, while the farce in the other House was going on.—( Cheers, laughter, loud cries of " Order ! " " Chair 1" and great sensation.) The SPEAKER rose to order, and said such an observa tion ought not to be made by any Hon. Member in that House. —(" Hear," from the Opposition Benches.) Mr. REBUCK—Certainly, coming from you, Sir, I feel now that that observation should not have been made---( Hear from the Opposition)—but hear what I say. Unless, Sir, you had said so, I should not have discovered it, considering what has becen allowed to be said in other places respecting this House.—( Cheers from the Ministerial side.) Lord J. RUSSELL suggested that with regard to what was said in other places respecting this House, the House would best preserve its dignity by not taking any notice of, or making any observations, by way of retaliation, upon them. Mr. SHIEL said some time ago he pressed upon the Noble Lord to allow the House to sit on Saturdays for the disposal of motions in arrear, and as he would not agree to that, it was rather unreasonable now to wish orders to take precedence of motions every day. He had several times put off motions to give way for orders, in the hope of having future opportunities which never arrived. Sir EDWARD CODRINGTON complained that he had been inconvenienced in a similar manner. IPSWICH ELECTION. Mr. A GLIONBY asked the Attorney-General if be had taken any steps to prosecute the persons convicted of bribery at the Ispwich Election ? The ATTORNEY-GENERAL replied, that in obe dience to the order of the House, he made it his duty to inspect the Report of the Committee very attentively, and it appeared to him that there was evidence to convict of bribery some miserable wretches who had received bribes, but whom he believed the House did not desire to prosecute. There was also evidence against four persons, one of whom was Mr. Ingram, convicting them of active bribery; and he was prepared, unless the House should give him any other orders, to file ex officio informations against the parties. Mr. G. F. YOUNG said the real question before the House related to the business of the House, and he entirely concurred with the Noble Lord in his proposition of Orders to take precedence of Motions ; but he complained that there "seemed to be a disposition to study rapidity of legislation instead of good legislation at the Morning Sittings, when half the Members were absent.' The Public Walks Bill was passed through Committee the-othee morning, when there was a mere banditti of Members present, in a shape that would not have been allowed had there been a full attendance of members to attend to it. The SPEAKER apprised the lion. Member that the Bill was only committed pro forma, with some amendments, and was to be read a third time on Tuesday next. ORANGE LODGES. Mr. O'CONNELL gave notice that when the Bill for re gulating offences in Ireland was brought in, he should more a clause rendering the laws affecting Corresponding Societies applicable to Ireland, and that all secret societies, having se cret signals, signs, and meetings, be illegal. GENERAL DARLING. Mr. MAURICE O'CONNELL named the following Cvmmittee for enquiring into the case of General Darling. o'(.7oniii,:l, Maui ice Sir H. Rice, T. S. H. I Harvey, D. W. Shell, It. L. Bemc , ork, Major Hay, Colonel L. Stanley, Lord Penry G. Hohhouse, Sir J. C. Stuart, Lord Dudley Eonha:ii, Francis It. I lowick, Lord Thompson, C. B. l' , ,wring, Dr. Hume, Joseph (yike, NV. 13,-kin3harn, J. S. Lushington, Dr. Tulk, Charles A. Butwer, 11. L. Nichol:, J. "[wins, Itorac.! F.mr . ourt, C J. O'Connell, I). Verney, Sir H. Gl,thione ' W. E. Obwaid, J. Thomas Gres, Sir G. Vi,rb,,r lon. H. Lord. JOHN RUSSELL rose to move "That the Com mittee have no power whatever to enquire into the trial and sentence of the court-martial which was held upon Captain Robison." That House would not open an enquiry into the proceedings of a Court-martial, except under very extraordinary circumstances ; and if they were so induced, he was certain they would not proceed by Committee, but move at once for the Minutes of the Court. If this were to be allowed, the House would be bound to give an enquiry into every case where a party felt himself aggrieved, and averred that the proceedings were unfair.—( Hear, hear.) The only case in which the House could interfere was where there were allegations of gross partiality or cor ruption. To shoW that there were no such allegations in this case, ha read a paragraph from an address to the members of that House in which he acquitted the majority of the Court of all improper motives, and set their failing down as one belonging to humanity. He submitted that there was no dishonourable or corrupt conduct imputed here which deserved the interference of the House. If the House granted such an enquiry, they would open the decision of every tribunal in the country. This question had not only been before the Judge Advocate and the Commander-in- Chief, whose report induced his Majesty to give his approbation to the finding of the Court ; but it had also received the attention of that House, when brought before it by the Right Honourable Sir R. Grant.—( Hear, hear.) The conclusion Sir R. Grant came to was that the Court was legal, the proceedings regular, and the decision right. After such an opinion from such a person, he sub mitted to the House, whether there could have been such gross ignorance on the part of the Court-Martial, as to induce the House to take any extraordinary proceeding ? The Noble Lord then referred to the trial in the Court of King's Bench, to show that the opinion of the judge (Littledale) was in favour of the /legality -of the Court Martial.—( Hear.) After these opinions it could hardly be assumed that this Court-Martial had deserted from the ge neral principles of law, or substantial justice. He would, therefore, conclude by moving that it be an instruction to the Committee that, in their inquiry into the conduct of General Darling, they do not question the legality of the Court-martial. Mr. M. O'CONNELL thought that after they had suc ceeded in obtaining a Committee it would be most hard and unjust to preclude them from this evidence, which was most material to clear up the character of Mr. Robison.—( Hear. ) The Committee had power to enquire into the conduct of General Darling, and he thought that they would make out a strong case against him ; but this would not be sa tisfactory, unless they could also establish the character of Captain Robison upon a fair foundation. He main tained that there had been gross corruption in the conduct of the Court-Martial, and a most deplorable ignorance of the law, and therefore he contended that it was a proper case to be brought before the House. He felt bound to oppose the motion of the Noble Lord. The Noble Lord had objected to the House assuming the character of a court of appeal. Why, what was that House but a court of appeal from the decision of any court-martial ? That it was so was clearly established by the authority of the late and present Speaker, and by cases to be found in the Journals of the House for 1744, when the opinions of at least a dozen officers were laid on the table of the House ; in one case—that of Captain Morris—the House went so far as to decide that the finding of the court-martial was unjust, illegal, and cruel. He was sorry he could not refer to the proceedings in these cases ; but they had been unfortunately destroyed in the late fire. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman entered at some length into the de tails of the case, with the view of showing that the members of the court-martial were deplorably ignorant of the law, and that they were misled by Captain Forbes, a friend of Captain Sturt who acted as Judge Advocate; that the case came within the line laid down by the Noble Lord, as one in which the court-martial displayed gross ignorance, and, in some in stances, absolute misconduct ; that questions were put on behalf of Captain Robison which were not allowed by the court, and even refused to be entered on the minutes, and that the whole proceedings were illegal. The prisoner called for his prosecutor, but it was not until the end of the proceedings that his name was given, and the minutes of the court-martial were taken every night by the Judge Advocate to General Darling, who was enabled to shape his case accordingly. After some strong accusations against both Lieut. Sweeny and Captain Sturt, the Honourable and Learned Gentleman submitted that this was a case in which the House was bound', to inquire into the character of the witnesses and the nature of their evidence. He claimed to be 'allowed to prove that Captain Robison was a much-injured man, that illegal evi- . ,DAY, ATTG ST 8, 1835. dente had been received against him, and legal evidence tendered in his behalf refused, and that the proceedings of the court-martial had been conducted illegally and improperly. If he obtained permission to do this, and the Committee de clared on the evidence adduced before it that they saw nothing in Captain Robison's conduct derogatory to his character as a gent. and a man of honour, he contended that the House would not interfere with the proceedings of the court-martial. He concluded by moving an amendment on the Noble Lord's motion, limiting the inquiry of the Committee to the proceed ings to the court-martial, and excluding the finding and sen tence from their consideration. The original question and amendment were then put. Mr. C. FERO US SON felt bound to oppose the motion of his Hon. and Learned Friend, which was perfectly and wholly unprecedented, and he was prepared to shew that the court-martial had committed no injustice in any one of the cases to which he had adverted. The reason why certain portions of the minutes of the court-martial were not pro duced was, that Captain Robison had put questions concern ing parties not in the Court.—( Hear.) The questions had no relevance to the subject matter of inquiry, but referred en tirely to third parties. Mr. HORACE TWIS S trusted that the House, by sanc tioning the motion on this subject on a former evening, would not establish a dangerous precedent. He agreed in the sug gestion of the Hon. and Learned Member, that they ought not to go into any investigation connected with General Darling, unless they were prepared to enter upon a full examination of the whole case. Lord DUDLEY STUART thought too that it would not be satisfactory either to the House or the country if they did not enter upon an enquiry into the whole subject. It would even be a great injustice to General Darling if they did not do so after the vote the House had come to on a former occasion, and after the serious charges brought against that Gallant General.—( Hear, hear.) The motion which his Noble Friend the Secretary for the Home Department had that night proposed, went to rescind the vote which the House had come to the other night.—( Hear.) He could not help saying that it required a degree of assurance on the part of any Minister to come down with such a proposition.—(Hear, hear.) Why did not his Noble Friend come down with his friends and supporters on the former night this subject was discussed and oppose inquiry ? It appeared that he had neglected to do so, and yet he had the assurance to come down now and ask the House to rescind the resolution they had come to on the subject.—( Hear, hear) He ( Lord Dudley Stuart) had not been present when his Right lion. Friend the Judge Advocate addressed the House.—( Cheers from the Ministerial benches.) His Noble Friend the Secretary at War cheered him when he said that he had not heard the whole of the speech of the Judge Advocate ; but he would tell his Noble Friend that he (Lord Howick) had neglected his duty--( Hear, hear)—in not being present on the former occasion, when a question concerning the department over which lie presided was under discussion.—( Cheers and laughter.) He contended that there were many instances where the House had instituted inquiry into the proceedings before courts-martial. Sir J. C. HOBHO USE objected to opening the proceed ings before the court-martial on Captain Robison, because it would tend to make the House a court of appeal from the de cision of judicial tribunals. Mr. MACLEAN was fully aware that General Darling was most anxious for a full investigation of his conduct; but as it had met with the approval of the Government, he thought that there was no necessity to go into the inquiry. Mr. O'CONNELL should like to know how the Hon. and Learned Gentleman who had just addressed the House, and the Hon. and Learned Member for Bridport intended to vote ; they had both stated that General Darling was most anxious to have the whole of his 'Conduct thoroughly investigated. Surely, then, he was entitled to their votes, if the Gallant Ge neral, whom they were so anxious to defend, desired that in quiry should take place.—( Hear.) Having had the opportunity of making, in the Court of King's Bench, the affidavit which was now produced, he failed to avail himself of it. Why was not Captain Sturt called to a courtmartial for his letter to Col. Sweeny ? There was only one conjectural reason, which was, that General Darling himself had authorized the writing of the letter. Excluding the sentence, he asked that the pro ceedings in the courtmartial should be inquired into; this the Hon. Gentleman opposite should consent to out of considera tion for General Darling. General Darling never could free himself from the stigma of having authorized the writing of the letter to Colonel Sweeny, except by the inquiry of the pro posed Committee. Mr. SHAW thought there ought to be an inquiry; and he said so in the belief that it would completely clear General Darling of the charges which had been brought against him. After a few words from Mr. P. HOWARD and Captain BoL DERO, which were interrupted by repeated cries of " Question," the House divided on the motion. The numbers were— Ayes . . Noes.... Majority IRISH CHURCH BILL . 89 ' , . 46 . -43 Lord MORPETH moved the Order of the Day for the bringing up cf the Report of the Irish Church Bill. The motion was agreed to, and Mr. BERSAL brought up the Report. On the motion that the Bill he re-committed, Mr. Shaw, Mr, Plunkett, and Mr. Twiss, presented some petitions against the Bill, and Mr. Lynch presented one in its favour. We did not hear the places that the petitions were presented from: _ _ Mr. SHAW would take that opportunity of stating. that, objecting as be did to the appropriation clause, he should move an amendment against it. He should propose to vest the pro perty of the Church not in the Crown but in Ecclesiastic Commissioners ; he should object to the opening of the corn positions, and he should also propose the introduction of the principle of redemption. The House then went into Committee on the Bill. Several clauses and verb it amendments were then agreed to. - Mr. HUME proposed that a clause should be inserted with a view to the repayment of the million proposed by the Bi!l to be remitted to the Irish landlords. The sanctioning such a principle as that upon which those who had offered effectual resistance to the law, were relieved from all the consequences, was extremely likely to lead to consequences under the new arrangement which the framers of this measure did not at all anticipate. The Hon. Member concluded by moving a clause to the effect " that in every case where the arrears of any tithe composition or any assignment for 1831, 1832, 1833, and 1834, shall remain due at the passing of this Act, out of lands chargeable with a sum equal to the rent charge of 7-10ths provided by this Bill, there shall be payable an additional charge of 21- per cent., to be recoverable out of and levied on the land in the same way as the former rent charge, and subject to all the regulations and provisions hereinafter to be made for levying and receiving the same. That the proceeds of this additional rent charge be paid over to the consolidated fund for the purpose of reimbursing it for the advances .which have already been made, or those which it may be necessary to make." In order to guard against any injustice being done to the Irish landlords by this clause, he should hereafter move, that—where the same tenants did not reside on the lands the sums which might be due by them should be remitted. Lord MO RPETH observed that the effects of the clause which was proposed by the Hon. Member for Middlesex had been discussed fully on the night when the Hon. Member for Southwark brought forward his motion. He did not, there fore, think it necessary to enter on any further discussion with respect to this clause. Mr. II UNI E—The Noble Lord laboured under a mistake. His Hon. Friend the Member for Southwark proposed no more of raising the million, whereas he did. Lord MORPETH—But several suggestions as to the means by which the million was to be supplied were made and discussed on that occasion. _ _ Mr. S. O'BRIEN was opposed to the proposed clause. Mr. ROBINSON was very much afraid, if this sum were wholly remitted, that it would only hold out an encouragement to the violation of the law under the proposed rent-charge. Mr. JAMES G RATTAN was of opinion that the clause would be altogether impracticable. The landlrrds would find it quite difficult enough to collect the 70 per cent. without im posing on them any additional charge. Mr. SHAW thought a higher bonus should be allowed to those who had obeyed the law, than those who violated it. Mr. HARVEY—If the payment of a million were to se cure permanent peace to Ireland, so far from objecting to that sum, there was no advance that he would not be willing to make in order to secure that object. But as he was persuaded that the new arrangement as prop-sed by this Bill, would not, and ought not to reconcile the payment of tithes to the Irish peo ple, he was unwilling that the whole of the million should be allowed to go into the pockets of the Irish landlords. Not one sixpence of the money advanced was to be recovered— ( Hear, hear)—and he much feared that none of it would ever find its way into the public exchequer. Indeed he had very little doubt that hereafter it would be proposed that the Con solidated Fund of Great Britain should be directly available for the support of the Irish Protestant clergy. An opportunity had been afforded to Hon. Members the other night, when he bad brought forward his motion, to prevent this abandon ment of the public funds; how far they had made use of it was evidenced by the smallness of the minority which sup ported him on that occasion. He could readily conceive the answer which some of them would return when their constitu ents spoke to them on the subject, and said, " We did not s e e your name in that minority, when it was proposed that a million should not be squeezed out of the pockets of the peo ple of England." " See my name in it I" would be the reply ; " no, and that was the fault of the Hon. Member for South wark, who proposed to send the clergy of Ireland in search of the million—how could we support such a motion ?"—( Laugh ter.) But that was not the case ; he had opposed the clause in question, not for the purpose of throwing the payment upon the clergy, but in order to cause the Government to take some steps for securing it. If there were difficulty in getting back the 650,0001. which had been advanced, there could be none in retaining possession of the remaining 350,0001. which the Government still had in hand. However desirable it might be to advance money to aid the Irish clergy, the interests of the people of England were certainly entitled to some consi deration. The Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Tam worth had said that if he had remained in office he should have proposed to extend an equality of beneficence to the three countries ; as church-cess had been renwitted to Ireland, he contemplated the remission of church• cess in England, and also a grant of money to Scotland. He proposed moreover to give up the million, advanced on account of arrears, in the case of Ireland. In the spirit of that impartial justice which guided him, some proposition must have been afterwards made for extending a similar remission of arrears to England, and consequently for advancing another grant out of the public purse. For Scotland also funds were to be provided out of the funds of England. To use the expression of an Hon. Member now in the Government, he would not consent that the English people. should be a much cow, although it ap peared that she was to - be so. Beth countries—lreland and Scotland, were making their applications to her ; and how it was that she sustained the constant draughts upon her re sources was to him a matter of marvel. Sir ROBERT PEEL said, in reference to the statement of the Hon. Gentleman, that it had been his intention, had he re mained in office, to have adopted the principle laid down by his predecessor, as Chancellor of the Exchequer (Lord Althorp) and also take the course which the Noble Lord, his successor (Lord J. Russell) had intended to pursue--namely, relieve the people of England from the payment of church-cess to the amount of about half a million annually, and substitute for that burden a payment of about 250,0001. from the public funds. The people of Ireland would have been called on to contribute towards that amount so substituted, not deriving at the same time any benefit from it ; and he had meant to vindicate the remission of the million to Ireland, partly on that ground. It was said that Ireland had enjoyed already the remission from church-cess ; but England bad not been taxed for it. England had not been the mulch cow—the church of Ireland—the old established cow—had been milked for the church-cess. As to the remission made to the landlord, some remission ought surely to be made for throwing a burden upon him without his consent. On the whole, he himself was content, as an Eng lish Member, that the million should be remitted for the pur pose of securing peace. The Gallery was then cleared for a division, but none took place, and the motion was, as we :understood, withdrawn. On our return to the Gallery we found Mr. R. PL UNK ET T, reading an extract from a letter which he had received from a Rector near Drogheda, stating that several churthes had been broken into, and despoiled of vari ous articles. He observed also that an erroneous impression seemed to be entertained in reference to the amount of the duties of the Irish clergy. The area of Ireland contained 27,000 square miles, so that each clergyman had an•extent of twenty-six square miles to superintend—a circumstance from which some idea of the difficulties they had to encounter might be formed. _ Mr. TOOKE then rose to make his motion for providing a stipend not exceeding 401. a year to be paid to meritorious curates, who might be disabled from the discharge of their clerical functions by age or infirmity. After a few inaudible words from Lord MORPETI - 1, the amendment was withdrawn. Air. FRENCH moved, in place of clause 89, a clause to the effect that, when any tenant had served notice of his in tention to purchase the fee simple and inheritance of and in the lands held under any sole ecclesiastical Corporation, the sum should, if he desired it, be allowed to remain as a rent charge of 3-4 per'cent. on the lands, he being at liberty to re deem the whole or any part of that rent-charge at any future period. Mr. PERRIN opposed the clause. . _ After a brief discussion, in which Mr. D. Roche, Mr, O'Brien, Mr. O'Connell, Lord Morpeth, and Mr. Shaw par. ticipated, the Committee divided : For the amendment Against it Majority —l27 Mr. B ING HAM BA RING proposed the clauses of which he had given notice. We understood the. Hon. Gentleman to represent the great diminutions to which the revenue of the Church in Ireland had for some years been subjected by Tithe Composition and other Bills; at the same time that Protes tantism was on the increase in that country. Under these cir cumstances, it was desirous to prevent the succession of Par liamentary struggles, which, as the proportion of Catholics and Protestants in Ireland altered, might be expected to oc cur from year to year. The general object of his clauses was, to invest in the hands of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners in Ireland all the revenues of the sequestered cures in Ireland ; to give the Ecclesiastical Commissioners the power of altering the limits of benefices ; to give them also the power of en dowing new benefices, &c. Lord 1110 RPET H said that to the principle of the clauses moved by the Hon. Gentleman, he riot only did not object, but, on the contrary, was disposed very cordially to assent. He rejoiced that any proposition, involving so liberal a prin ciple, should proceed from that part of the House in which the • Hon. Gentleman sat. The clauses proposed, certainly would not interfere with the principle of the Bill ; and, no doubt, would provide a remedy for the great disproportion and inequality in the extent of ecclesiastical territory, duty, and remuneration, which at present existed in Ireland • but at the same time he was disposed to think that, as the Bill had pro ceeded thus far without these supplementary provisions, lie should not be authorized in giving his consent to them, unless they were approved and urged upon him by the general feeling of the House. Mr. SHAW thought that the effect of the clauses might be to vest too great a power in an irresponsible body ; at all events, the proposition required more consideration than it would then be possible for the House to extend to it. On that account he trusted the Government would not consent to en tertain it. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought that the principle involved in the clauses was most valuable, and hoped the House would not be induced lightly or negli gently to suffer it to pass by. He for one was ready to adopt the clauses at once. No one felt more strongly than he did, that it was the duty of Parliament to make the surplus fund conducive to the purposes of Protestant education ; and he thought that the Hon. Gentleman was entitled to the grati tude of the Protestants of Ireland for having brought forward his proposition. Mr. HUME said it was most gratifying to him to find a proposition, which he had brought forward fifteen years ago, and for which he was nearly torn in pieces, suggested by an Hon. Gentleman belonging to that political party to which the Hon. Member for Winchester was attached. The Hon. Gen ilcinan was perfectly correct when he said that the present measure wound not be a final one unless it contained some such provision as that which he proposed. Nothing could be more consistent with justice, or with the interests of the Prstest ants in Ireland, than that the funds should ha applied in the manner that the Hon. Gentleman suggested. Sir ROBE RT PEEL thought that the vs2uable part of the discussion was the admission of the Right Hon. Gentle ! man, the Chancellor of the Exchequer. Ile had understood the Right Hon. Gentleman to admit that he was ready to as. sent to the principle of clauses which would appropriate the revenue of every parish in Ireland, except the 864 particularly described in the Bill, to purposes connected with the Esta blished Church. The Right Hon. Gentleman distinctly ac knowledged that principle, because he talked of the fund to which the clauses referred as an unappropriated fund. He ( Sir Robert Peel) apprehended that the people of England would make no objection to the principle of providing a fund for the education of the people of Ireland. There were some difficulties no doubt ; but the principle being agreed upon, he did not believe any objection would be made to a grant for the purposes of education. 'The proposition now made was, that they should provide a sum of forty thousand pounds for educa tion purposes—that an increase of the grant was required The Noble Lord (Morpeth), in dealing with this subject, talked first of a reserved fund ; but finding that he could create no such fund, he then came down and voted fifty thousand pounds to realize the expectation he had held out. He hoped his lion. Friend would not precipitate a vote on the question, which certainly required a more mature consideration than it would then he in the power of the House to bestow upon it. To any distribution of Ireland into districts, he should decid edly object. At the same time, he should be sorry to give a direct negative to the proposition before the House. Lord JOHN RUSSELL thought that the Right Hon. Baronet had not exactly understood his Right Hon. Fiend the Chancellor of the Exchequer when he said that with the exception of the 86 0 parishes, the revenue would be appro priated exclusively to the purposes of the Protestant Church. All that his Right Hon. Friend admitted was that the endow ments of the Church might be better distributed than they were at present. That was the principle which he (Lord J. Russell) understood to be involved in the, clauses brought forward by the Hon. Member for Winchester; and he thought it to be an extremely proper one. In the genera) proposition contained in the clauses, therefore, he was fully disposed to assent ; but in some respects he thought they would require a more mature consideration. He was glad that the sugges tion had been made, but thought it would not be advisable to press it to a division. Sir R. PEEL offered a few observations in reply, and concluded by asking the Noble Lord (J. Russell) what lie meant to do with respect to the Irish Corporation Bill. As it had not yet been delivered, he thought it would be impos sible that the House should be prepared to proceed with the discussion at the time proposed. Lord J. RUSSELL said that the Bill was printed, and he believed, had been delivered that night. He thought, there fore, there would be no difficulty in,proceeding. Mr. BARING replied, and the clause was put and ne gatived. Mr. WALKER moved the addition of the clause, of which he had given notice, providing, " That in all cases of leases made at a rack-rent, at any time after the establishment of a composition for tithes, in any parish of lands subject to the payment of such composition ; and in cases of all leases made at a rack-rent or otherwise, at any time after the passing of the said recited Act of the second and third years of the reign of his present Majesty, and after the establishment of a com position for tithes in any parish of lands subject to the payment of such composition, the rent or rents reserved upon and made payable by such leases, shall be reduced by a sum equal to the difference between the amount of the composition heretofore payable in respect of such lands respectively, and the amount of the rent-charges which will, under the provisions of this Act, become payable in lieu thereof; and that the party liable to the payment of such reserved rent shall be entitled to de duct the amount of such difference accordingly." After a short discussion the clause was agreed to. The House resumed; the Bill, with the amendments, was re.. ported; the Report was ordered to be received (as we believe) on Monday next. MILITIA STAFF BILL. Lord JOHN RUSSELL moved tho .second reading of :his Bill. On the question being put, Colonel SIBTHORP rose to oppose the motion. When the general cheering from all parts of the House had somewhat subsided, he said that he did so because the Bill had been in troduced at a late hour and at a late period of the session : it was founded on no justice, no necessity, no economy, no ad vantage to the public, no, nothing.—( Hear.) It had been po litically surreptitiously brought in.—( Vehement cheering.) It was a Bill, a project, a-a-measure—(Cheers)—which was unconstitutional, uncalled for, unrequired, and unnecessary. The Noble Lord might say it was founded on a point of eco nomy. The Noble Lord might be a very entertaining man—(Cheers and laughter)--z-an uncommon entertaining man in. private circles ; he might be a very clever man at the Home Department, but be (Colonel Sibthorp) would tell that Noble Lord that neithor he or his Noble Friend the late erctary kit War, in the event uf their •wciu:d ever get much further than tho awkward squad.—( Cheers, and a scowl resembling laughter.), The militia was a censtitu. tional body ; it had infused a feeling of security and. faction into the hearts of our citizens at home — it had ittlinie terror to the hearts of our hardiest foes abroad—and yeti Noble Lord proposed to alter the constitution of this oonStake. tional body, and to reduce its numbers in the proportion of 4 : 111 r third of two thirds.—( A decided laugh.) The Noble Lorcli.pa_e ing no ear for music, proposed, in the first instance, by 4 u. sweeping, and he would say, revolutionary measure to do at r' with all the drum-majors. Now were the people of th is cot in seriously to be told in the nineteenth century, that drum-ma jors were to be treated in this way? Wits it to be borne=, or could it be supposed that drum-majors would respect the i 0 stitutions of their country, if the laws afforded dram-majors tin protection ?—( Enthusiastic cheers.) The Noble Lord was not aware probably—never having been a drum-major bimself--• that the office was one of the most difficult to fill up at a Ino - ment's warning, and that the course of training for a drum; and majorship, was both difficult and expensive.—(Cheers laughter.) The introduction of this measure was neither rit o T nor less than a consequence of that democratic spirit wb was floating about—(hear, hear, hear)—and which was to 0 0 found from beginning to end in all the proceedings Noble Lord. The Noble Lord began his democratic career, by destroying what he was pleased to call the rotten 1)0' roughs • he then endeavoured to subvert the Corpo...ations--• though ' here he rather expected the Noble Lord naioht be caught; and then looking round for more prey it suariden!Y struck him.—" The militia--another great constitutional body —l'll have a touch at that."—(Much cheering, but muck' more laughter.) laughter.) The present Bill was the result—this a4tak' k ! °- that great body of men—that efficient force—that—ow, ton, question)—" Sir" (continued the Hon. arid Martial Me•ru her j addressing an individual who had joined in the cry of queatt°Thi " Sir, if you do not like to hear me, go to bed."—(C rea laughter, and cries of " Order.") He begged that 1 1 '° 1 ; Member to retire" to rest.—( Order.) He appealed to Chair with the greatest possible respect, whether it was ft' lr of that that Hon. Members should make a point of interrupting. °; individual who had not the slightest idea of what was g oing on.-_( Laughter.) He begged pardon ; he meant that an in dividual should not be interrupted by Members who neither knew what was going on ; nor, he believed he might add, i n , Parliamentary language, cared one straw about it.—( A laug h. It was an act of legislative, economical injustice.—(Cheers .) He would ask the Noble Lord, who pretended to feel for th e people—but who did not care, as he believed, twopence f°' r the people—( Cheers)—whether he sincerely thought this measure would be beneficial to the public ?—( Cheers.) WV did the Noble Loyd adopt "the eleventh hour"—( Hear, hear) —to bring forward an iniquitous measure of such conseque nce ' —( Hear, hear.) He protested against this Bill, and al° against any measure emanating from the Government ; an d n c e i should, on a future occasion, take care to tell the Noble L o ' that the Bill was unbecoming the Treasury Bench—( Cheers ) —or any persons pretending to act for the benefit of th e / country.—( Cheers and laughter.) Col. PERCIVAL protested against the Bill as inexPe' client and unnecessary. Mr. BROTH E RTON objected to going on with the tu g. cussion at such a late hour. Lord J. RUSSELL defended the Bill, and denied that any enactments in it would bear harshly on any portion of t"'" . militia staff. Lord G. SOMERSET thought that the economical advan tage would not be an equivalent for reducing the militia sta ff to such a state as to render it inefficient. It would be betterto get rid of the militia staff altogether. Lord HO WIC K contended that it was most absurd to lteeP up the present system of militia. No less than six millions had been expended on this almost useless branch of the servic, since the peace. While the Government saw the necessity °' change, they did not attempt to get rid of the militia staff ai r :: gether. The measure was fbunded on a recommendation 12 ' ", Committee up stairs. Lord S TOR 11 ONT opposed the measure, and would rather they should get rid of the militia altogether than adopt such $ Bill as the present. Col. TYRRELL insisted that there was no case made 0 ° from the Report for the Bill. • The Bill was then read a second time. Mr. HUME moved the third reading of the Music an! Dancing Licences' Bill, upon which a motion for adjournme°. was made. During our absence from the gallery several divisions to°! place on similar motions. We understand that the Bill eventually read a third time. The other Orders of tile Day were then disposed of, and t il s House adjourned at Three o'clock. • The late extensive fire in Charter House-square , 1 : likely to fall more heavily on the Insurance offices, than 1111 ' which has occurred for a considerable time. The long-continued drought, and the consequen t scarcity of feed, has already had the effect of greatly dejire ss ‘ ing the various sheep fairs throughout the country. According to present appearances the harvest 2, 0 Ireland will be one of unusual abundance. All the crops , especially wheat, are far beyond their condition at this pert of the last year.—Dublin Register. St TREASURE TROVE.—June l ln the month of year we made mention of a large number of ancient s ilver e 0 r , English, Scotch, Irish, and Flemish—some of them very r a l , ;lid curious—having been found by a labourer while at 0 1 ., in a field near Stanley. The publicity we then gave this a li j cumstance brought it under the notice of the Exchequer, -Iv officers, with an Exchequer warrant, were despatched to David Greig, jeweller, in this city, w h o h a d ma d e a purclt n s of the greater part of them from th e p erson w h o f o und tiler; to claim them on the part of th e Ki ng . Wi t h t h e excePt l „ ° 3 of a few which had been presented to public institutions, 11 ; to the virtuosi, Mr. Greig accordingly surre n de r ed the c ol between 300 and 400 coins, at a con s iderable loss to libese;; This week the Exchequer has returned him nearly the having retained a few specimens of each sort.—Pe'rthCou r ‘ e "' ntg IMPERIAL TOKAIr.—The Hungarian acco n.- state that the wine of' Tokay, the monarch - of wine, i s 13 : 5 , grown solely near the village of Tokay, but in the erwi r° ,4 Although the eminence is up war d s o f 250 f ee t hi g h, it is the hill of Mezas Male which produces wine of the preel4.lo qualite. The soil is principally composed of porphyry. pst greater part of the m o u n t a i n b e l ongs t o th e C rown . The greatest proprietors are Prince de Bretzenheim and Me 9 ,5 0 , de Pzirmann. In good ye ars , th e v i n t age o f th e s e meun t "," e a produces 400,000 casks of wine. Ki ng B era IV. is suliPt e el to have been the first who cultivated this wine, which he es‘r i be to he planted by Italian colonists. As early as 1351, the tr o , on it was worth 10,000 ducats to the Bishoprick of Erl o y The vintage takes place very late, sometimes not beforou`so end of October. There are eleven kinds of vines on t n e in hills, which, though all are delicious, differ considerably e each other. Each vintage produces three kinds of wine; i ` e9 , first, that which flows spoataneously from the grapes theolse ° ,. o . which may be called the essence of Tokay ; the second , P; iy duced by a first pressure, which gives a wine of a second, o st lity, and the second pressure, which produces the last and "" inferior kind. BIRTHS. On the sth inst., in Upper Grosvenor-street, Lady Robert ," venor, of a daughter. - lad/ of On the Ist inst., at .onymusk, Aberdeenshire, the. Robert Grant, Esq., of a daughter, still-born. On the sth inst., at Cantley Parsonage, the lady of the el ' Charles Childers, of a son. b , wif e On the 4th inst., at St. George's-terrace, Hyde-parA, the of William Price, Esq., of a daughter. p.ricer' On the 4th inst., in Peckham-lane, the lady of Thomas P- Esq., of a son. MARRED: 1 .0 On the 6th inst., at St. Giles's I Camberwell, the of Rev 4 7„ Robertson, to Sophia Hopkins, daughter of th e l a t e Mr. 1 3 ° ° ''' Milton, Berks. - Bober On the 6th inst., at St. Pancras Church, the Rev. - J a pe, Deedes Wilmot, M.A., Vicar of Ken n i ng to n , Kent, to youngest (laughter of Charles Turner, Esq. ' A.R.A. A Fitt On the 3d inst., at the British Embassy, Brussels, Holrop: n c o, william, son of the late Benjamin Way, of Denham-place, f4foor to Isabella Harriett, daughter of George Watkin Kenrick, of Hall, Shropshire, and Mertyn Flintshire, Esq. IJeg' On the 6th inst., at St. Luke's Church, Chelsea, Philip LTg r elt Esq., of the Treasury, to Emily, third daughter of Richard Pa ve r , Esq., of Whitelands House, Chelsea, and Conduit-street, HP ° squa Onre . the 23th ult., at St. George's, Hanover-square, G. Tvg tAff' Esq , of New Bond-street, to Miss Elizabeth Slatter, of the street. On the 6th inst., at th e P ar i s h Ch urc h o f Measham, theitels William T. Sandys, M.A., Vi car o f St. M ar y' s , B ever ley, sou; of mestic Chaplain to the Right Him. Lord Belhaven, fifth _ l 4O Myles Sandys, Esq., of G ra yth wa it e Lancashire, to Cath;:s4., Elizabeth, only daughter of the late William Wootton AbneY„; Royal Horse Guards Blu e , an d s i s t er o f Willi am W o otton 1 ' Esq. O , of Measham H M all, lit.rbyshire. f t b° n the 3d inst., at arylebone Church, William, only 01° 0 1 ' late George Sowerby, Esq., of Lancaster, to Mrs. HalnlY n Hams, widow of Owen Hamlyn Williams, Esq. n 14 1 0 ° , 11' On the 6th inst., at th e F r i en d s ' M eet i ng House, Rolles Driver, of South am pt on , t o S ara h Smith, of - _ DIED. hoc of On the 6th in,t., at Brighton, Louisa Anne Agnew, daug the late Major-General Agnew, of the Madras Army. On the sth of March, at Kaira, Bombay President)' , c a 1. Emily, only daughter of James S. Unwin, Esq., Artillery , ag months. der 9 I On the 3d inst., Maria, wife of Major-General Sir Al ex Leith, K. C. 8., of Freeiield and Glenkendie, Aberdeensh ire ', daughter of RW. D. Thorp, M.D., of Leeds, Yorkshire. „olt• At the house of her sister, Clarence-terrace, Regent Sarah, daughter of the late Ralph Manco, Esq., of L0nd00 . 27 2d /e go On the 2d inst., at. Everton, near Liverpool, in his • Richard Daniel, third son of Thomas F. Dyson, Esq. „ i gire' On the 6th inst., at the house of her, brother, in De" - place, Caroline, the wife of John Kenyon, Esq. • Lelt'e 9. On the 6th inst., at the house of his son, Princes-street, for ter-square, Edward Arpthorp, of Barnet, Herts (late of the of Southwark), aged 47. _oder, On the '2d inst., drowned, Horace William Alexinder n'iross Esq., of Horselydown. This much lamented youth was throwlola the deck of a pleasure yacht into the Thames by the sudden of the mainsail. e i On the sth inst., aged six mo u th s , M ar y, daughter of .1 . 2 0 . Murray, Esq., of Mecklenburg-square. abs rd Ott the 6th inst., aged 39, Giles, second son of the late Stevens, law bookseller, of Bell-yard, Lincoln's inn. . • e' vaittll : 1 )- aJii6ii.‘ii by ( - )6. `' L " C o 112, Strand, at M e S un Oftke, No. 112, Strand, in the - of Middlesex. • On 11, 4,n eisel i rr] found a ker ; a tnensb two L inn, a and Ti Sherry Iryde I . &nit Cron 1031, On the I's dl Ti On tl„ Tv T „ 7 ' sPN;ti s , of china On tke qnd °ll the and rectio TIE cock', co Con, A n tayle'e quitiee ; faire ; G entlet Park.hi At the ourt media v ir li 2° . 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