The Sun. — London, England, 1848-08-01 00:00:00

Vtirll Wl:titian SUN OFFICE, Seven o'clock. ELECTION COMM ITTEE. THISDA) DUBLIN. _ _ The sandal into thiT;alidity --- of Mr. Reynolds's me 4ority:wlis resumed, but the petitioners did not succeed in striking any Additional votes off. HOUSE OF LORDS.—(THIS DAY.) The House sat to-day to hear appeals. The Peers present were the Lord Chancellor, Lord Brougham, and Lord Campbell. FOLEY v. HILL. The arguments on this appeal were resumed and con cluded to-day, and Their LORDSHIPS gave judgment, affirming the decision of the Court below. CEYLON RAILWAY.-(THIS DAY.) The adjourned annual general meeting of the pro prietors of the Ceylon Railway was held this afternoon at the offices of the Company; Mr. W. Tindall was iu the chair. At the last meeting the report recommended that the company should be allowed to stand in abeyance for a short while, and that in the mean time a call of 10s. per share .be paid to discharge the liabilities ; the 51. per share deposit having already been exhausted. The report was adopted, but the directors were only em powered to call up ss. per share. The CHAIRMAN now stated that the call had been made upon all the shareholders. Six thousand had signed the deed, and thirteen thousand were registered, but some doubt had arisen as to whether any other than the shareholders who had signed the deed could be legally forced to pay the call. The meeting was further adjourned without any resolution upon this disputed point being come to. It was stated that the company would be kept open for twelve months, when a meeting would be called to decide how the concern should be disposed of. FRANCE. We read in the Messager :—"lt is in contempla tion to prorogue the National Assembly from the 25th of August to the 25th of September. Our representatives would thus have a month's vaca tion preparatory to the discussion on the Con stitution, which cannot well commence before the Ist of October, in consequence of the labours imposed on the Committee for the introduction of the votes come to in the late conferences. It has besides been considered that, as the Assembly must sit permanently from the Ist of October until the constitu tion shall have been voted, it was proper to allow the members a vacation at the moment of the harvest and the vacations of the law courts. The bureau, however, will remain constituted, so that the Assembly may be called together in a few days, if circumstances should imperatiVely require it. The Presidency of M. MAR, FEAST will expire before the day of the prorogation of the Assembly. According to all appearance, M. AIARIZAST will be re-elected, and the honour of this re-election will be the more precious, as up to the present time no President of the National Assembly has held the post more than one month." WALL AC HIA. The Augsburg Gazette of the 27th inst. hes the following : " BUCHAREST, JULY 13. " Instead of the Russians we bare once more the Provisional Government amongst us. It was ascer tained yesterday that the reports which had been spread and several dispatches were false. Thanks to the propaganda of the young men who had not fled, the whole of the people have risen again. This time the merchants have also pro nounced themselves in favour of the movement. The whole of the population proceeded to the residence of the Metropolitan, whom they com pelled to kneel and swear on the Bible that he ' would tell the truth. He at length owned that the spurious dispatches had been fabricated by his order. The Kaimakan was dismissed, and a courier was sent to the Provisional Government, to request them to return to Bucharest. Negotia tions were opened with ODOBESCO and SoLoatorr. The former is favourable to the cause of the people, but he requires that TELL and MAGGIERO, the two most energetic members of the Provisional Govern ment should retire. The city is quiet ; some houses, however, were sacked : amongst these were the houses of the late Minister of Finance, GERESCO, and of the Metropolitan's secretary. " Accounts from the frontiers of Wallachia, of the 18th instant, state that the Russians, after leaving 4,000 men at Jassy, were advancing through Walla chia without encountering any resistance : 3,000 men were marching to Krasowa. Prince Butzsco was expected." MORTALITY in the METROPOLIS. NUMBER OF DEATHS FROM ALL CAUSES REGISTERED IN THE WEEK ENDING SATURDAY, JULY 29, 1848. Epidemic, Endemic, and Contagious Diseases ... 505 Diseases of Uncertain Seat ... ... 25 Turbercular Diseases... ... 207 Diseases of the Brain, Nerves, and Senses... ... 112 Diseases of the Heart and Blood-vessels ... 26 Diseases of the Lungs, and other Organs of Respiration ... Diseases of the Stomach, Liver, and other Organs of Digestion... Diseases of the Kidneys, &c. Childbirth, Diseases of the Uterus, &c. Diseases of the Joints, Bones, and Muscles Diseases of the Skin, &c. Malformations... ... Premature Birth .. ~ Atrophy Old Ago ~. ~. ~. ~. .. Sudden Violence, Privation, Cold, or Intemperance Causes not specified ... DEATHS ZRODI ALL CAUSES ... 79 ... 81 ... 23 ... 34 ... 43 Ponulation Enumerated, 1841. West Districts... 300,711 North Districts.. 375,971 Central Districts 373,653 East Districts ... 392,444 booth Districts.. 501,190 1,201 Totals... ..... 1,948,369 Males Females Average weekly Deaths Deaths, 1843-7. in the Five Summers. Week. . 142 ... 163 . 182 ... 247 . 178 ... 200 . 219 ... 287 . 251 ... 304 BIRTHS IN THE WEEK. Females ... ... 1,201 ... 650 ... 551 Total ... ... 707 ... 689 COURSE OF EXCH Amgeraam . 12 2 Ditto, at Bight • • .... Rotterdam .... 12 2 Antwerp • • ...• • • ...... 25 80 liamburgh ......M.B. 13 11 ... 1,396 earls, 3 days' sight .. •. 25 35 Ditto, •••• • . • • ...... Marseilles • • • • • • • ..... . Frankfort on Maine.... 12l j; Petersburgh, Sil. Rblo.. Berlin • • . • • • • • ..•. • • • 12 Vienna, effec. flo.• •.•. Trieste, ditto.... • • .. „ Cadiz .. , ...... .. fhlbao.. ..... •••• Barcelona •• • ........ Saville.. •• .... • • • • •• ••• i.NGE.-(THIS DAY.) Gibraltar.. ..... — Leghorn ••••• • • • • • •• 31 45 Genoa .... „ 25 90 tiaples ...... • • 36% Palermo, perm • • Lisbon.... • • ... ..... 62 Oporto . • .. • • • • • • • • • • • • 82 Rio Janeiro • • .... •• • • 26 Bahia .. • • • • Buenos Ayres New York, 21 days'sight --- Philadelphia .. - PRICES OP BULLION, PER Foreign Gold in bars ...£3 17 9 Now Dollars • • .• • 0 4 10 Portugal Gold Coin •• 0 0 0 iSpanish Doubloons Silver 1n bars ...... • • 0 4 11% MARKET INTELLIGENCE (From the London New Price Current of Aug. 1.) SIXIAR.—To-day a further improvement was visible in the position of the raw Sugar market, and there is evidently a desire on the part of several of the trade to get well into stock, merchants on the other hand have confidence. West India Muscovado was in ex cellent request both for the scale and pan, whilst the rates paid show an advance on those previously current of 6d per cwt. A puble sale of 144 hhds and 6 trs of Barbadoes Sugar went at prices 6d per cwt above those of Friday. Fine yellow realized 42s 6d to 43s 6d, good 41s to 425, middling 38s 6d to 40s, and low 37s 6d per cwt. The total sales reach 1,017 hhds and tierces. REFINED.—To-day refined goods were dealt in with increased freedom for home trade purposes, and prices advanced to 54s for standard and 53s for brown grocery lumps. There is a large export demand for bonded crushed Sugar at 26s 6d to 27s 6d per cwt. ISlAunraus..—This afternoon Mauritius Sugar was dealt in with greater freedom privately, and 2,033 bags at auction were all sold, and in some cases 6d per cwt above former rates, fine yellow went at 39s 6d to 40s, good 3as 6d to 395, middling 37s 6d to 38s, low 36s 6d to 375, good and fine brown 35s to 365, low 31s fid, washed 348 6d to 395, and syrupy 29s to 36s 6d. EAST INDIA. —This afternoon Bengal Sugar was in excellent demand, and 3,152 bags at auction were sold at 6d per cwt advance, good white Benares went at 44s to 42s 6d, mid 40s 6d to 41s Gd, fine soft yellow 39s to 394'6d, mid 36s 6d, damaged 36s to 41s 6d mid Khaur 295, OF Madras 605 bags were disposed of at 6d to Is advance ; 94 casks of Ceylon sold at stiffer rates. FOREIGN.—To-day there was no public sale of foreign sugar, but some parcels w ere soil privately, both for b o rne use and exportation; the rates obtained show a small advance on those of Friday. The market closes with much firmness. COFFEE. — This afternoon, at a public sale of 49 casks 94 barrels, and 207 bags Of Jamaica, p r i ces declined 2s per cwt ; low middling went at 48 , , fine fine ord 40s to 455, fine ord 32s to 38 s , good ord 28s to 31 s , low o rd 24 s to 275, t r i age 18s to 265. Plantation met with less atten tion, and 96 'cska 1,045 bags at , auction were only i n part sold at rather lower rates; good Mid went at 565, mid 48s to 525, lota mid 44s to 475, fine fine ord 39s to 435, fine ord 32s to 38s, good ord 29s to 30s 6d, triage .55s to 62s 6d, and damaged 24s to 41s 6d per cwt. For Native the market is dull at 29E to 31s for good and fine ord. TEA.—Previous rates are well supported for Congou, and there is a desire on the part of the trade generally to increase their stocks; there is also a less quantity on offer. Sales to a large extent made upon the following terms; ordinary unclean coarse 7d to lid, and new kinds 8d to Bid, mixed leaf 9d to Ild, blackish leaf rather strong to strong is to is 2d, strong and Pekoe flavour is Is 3d to is 6d, superior is 8d to 2s 2d. Of Souchong a fair quantity has been sold at 9d to is 2d for ord and mid, and at is 3d to 2s 5d for good and fine. Ponchong is wanted, and the parcels sold realzed from 4d to Bd, the supply continues to diminish. We cannot quote green higher, holders are firm, and there is a good demand, especially for the better sorts. Scented and Pekoe Teas fetched fall rates with a fair sale. None has been offered at suction since this day week. Ricz.—To-day East India Rice met with little atten tion, and privately few parcels were sold ; at auction 2,131 bags of Bengal were taken in at the full value ; fine cargo at 103, fine white 12s 6d, good middling Ils 6d, but damaged sold at 7s to 9s : 3,120 bags of Arracan were bought in at 9s 6d for good plump yellow. SPIRITS.—To-day there was a good business con cluded in Rum, and stiffer rates were obtained. Proof Leewards selling at is 8d to is Bid; East India is sfd to Is sid ; Jamaica, 28 to 33 per cent. over proof, 3s 5d to 3s 8d; better quality, 34 to 37 over, 3s 94 to 4s 4d; and high flavoured, 3s 10d to 4s 6d per cwt. CINNADION.—The sales went off very heavily, particu larly for first sort, for which there were few orders, and the small portion sold was at a reduction of Id to 3d per lb. from the prices of last sale ' • second sort and gt.,od thirds were in good request, and sold briskly from last sale prices to 2d to 3d advance, whilst all the inferior descriptions were almost unsaleable. The'next sales are to take place on the 30th October. COCHINEAL.—This afternoon at public sale 40 bags of Honduras Cochineal were sold at 4s to 5s 4d, and one lot of fine 5s 10d, which are lower rates. For auction 200 bags, chiefly Mexican, are declared. SPICES.—To-day Pimento was less sought after, and 279 bags at auction were only partly sold at full rates— good mid went at 4d, mid 3id, and damaged Sid per lb. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. (THIS EVENING.) HOUSE OF LORDS. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Wool sack at Five o'clock. ADMINISTRATION OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE BILL. This Bill was read a third time and passed. ECCLESIASTICAL DIVISIONS BILL. The Commons' amendments to this Bill were agreed to. IRELAND. Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from certain depositors in St. Peter's Savings' Bank, Dublin, which had failed for 74,0001. In 1831, a Mr. Dunne was in default and absconded with a large sum in his hands. There was a great fault in international law with regard to swindlers. He had given a judgment in favour of Dr. Hussey for 60,000/., the person had gone to France, and had died there with the money in his possession, and there was no redress for Dr. Hussey. In the same way Dunne bad absconded, and the people were advised to go on in the hopes of making up the deficiency of Dunne. They went on until the year 1845 subscribing, when 233,0001. was drawn out, leaving only 30,0001. in the bank, and they then stated to the Chancellor of the Exchequer the gross mismanagement and the gross frauds which had taken place without being checked by the authori ties. They had received deposits from persons exceed ing the amount permitted, contrary to law, and they opened several accounts for the same individual, con trary to law. The Government of that day never ex pressed any disapprobation, nor did they take any step to express their disapprobation. They therefore thought that all was right, and went on depositing until 1847, when the savings'-bank proved insolvent, having only 871. to pay 47,000/. There was no class of the community more entitled to protection than the de positors in savings'-banks, inasmuch as giving encourage ment to them was discouraging those grovellers who depended upon the relief to pauperism. He trusted their Lordships would give these 1,500 depositors every relief in their power. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE was understood to say that the subject bad been referred to Mr. Tidd Pratt, but the Noble Marquis was nearly inaudible is the gallery. After a few words from Lord MONTEAGLE, the subject dropped. THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, AUGUST l, 1848. PETITIONS. The Earl of MOUNTCASHEL presented a petition from the grand jury of Monaghan, complaining of the interference of the Poor-law Commissioners with regard to the quarter-acre clause. SOUTH-WESTERN RAILWAY BILL. The Earl of GRANVILLE moved the third reading of the South-Western Railway Bill, and was (LEFT SPEAKING.) HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Twelve o'clock. Mr. REYNOLDS presented a petition from forty-four master bakers in the city of Dublin against the Sale of Bread Bill. On the motion of Mr. MASTERMAN, it was ordered that it be an instruction to the Committee of Selection to appoint the Committee on the London (City) Small Debts Bill to meet forthwith, if they shall so think fit. SUGAR DUTIES. The report upon the Sugar Duties was brought up and agreed to. SUPPLY. The Report of the Committee of Supply was brought up and agreed to. STEAM NAVIGATION. The House went into Committee upon this Bill. Mr. LABOUCHERE, in proposing the resolutions to the. Committee, said this Bill was brought in for the better regulation of steam navigation in this country, and for limiting in certain cases, the number of passengers to be carried by steam-boats. In the Bill all steam-boats were required to have their machinery inspected by competent persons twice a year, and re ports were to be made regularly to the Board of Trade. Under the present law, while seagoing vessels were liable to a penalty if they went upon a voyage without such examination having taken place, no penalties were imposed upon vessels navigating our rivers, and he thought it was as necessary that some restriction should be placed upon them as upon seagoing vessels, because great competition existed among river steam-boats. The principal object of the Bill was one which he thought was very desirable. The Board of Trade were to fix the maximum number of passengers to be carried by steam vessels, but, in ordinary circumstances, he thought it would be a vexatious exercise of that power to carry it out with regard to seagoing vessels. It was, however, notorious that some of the steam-boats navigating our rivers, especially the river Thames, owing to the great competition which existed and the desire to carry pas sengers at the lowest possible fares, were occasionally so crowded with passengers that the safety of the pub lic was placed in great danger. It was, therefore, most improper that such • practice should continue, and it became necessary that some check should be placed upon the parties who had the management of those boats, and that the Board of Trade should have the power to fix the maximum number of passengers to be carried by each boat. Those were simply the objects of the Bill which he had to propose to the House, and which he trusted would receive its sanction. Mr. STAFFORD agreed with the Hon. Gentleman that a great necessity existed to regulate the number of persons that steam-boats should be allowed to carry; but ho could not help observing that the time was not far distant when the doctrine of non-interference, and leaving enough to competition would be the great prin ciple of the Government.—(oh. oh.) Mr. LABOUCHERE denied that that had ever been a ruling principle—no sane person would advocate the doctrine of non-interference. The Bill would not interfere with the rate of fares.—(Hear, bear.) Mr. HENLEY said the people derived the utmost advantage from the cheap rate of conveyance on the Thames. They should take care not so to limit the number of passengers as to take away au undue amount of the profit of the proprietors of boats. No very serious accident had occurred in consequence of over-crowding. Mr. LABOUCHERE said the proprietors of boats would not be unfairly dealt with. The Hon. Gentleman might recollect that the Lord Mayor stated the other day, when a case was before him, that the matter was not ripe for legislation, and that nothing would be done until .a boat went down, and five hundred persons were drowned. The resolution was agreed to, the House resumed, and the Bill was ordered to be brought in. FARMERS ESTATE BILL. The House went into Committee on this Bill. Mr. R. PALMER proposed several technical amend ments, which were agreed to. Colonel DUNNE proposed an amendment to the effect that tenants evicted should receive compensation from the county. Mr. M'CULLOCII feared that this Bill would lead to an extensive system of eviction, if special powers like those sought were granted. No one could bay land which had not poor tenants, and if the Bill were passed, they would be driven from the land which the Cork s -)any bought. Many located themselves on estates on the faith of the former owner.—(Hear, hear.) Colonel THOMPSON did not like looking into Irish mysteries ; but it appeared to him that this Bill would enable the Company to buy incumbered estates from their landlords, and enable them thereby to get rid of their small tenants. This would be a poor panacea during the present excited state of the country, and would so exasperate the unfortunate persons evicted and driven to seek shelter beneath hedges, that assassination would become again rife.—(lfear.) Mr. STAFFORD defended the Bill. Sir G. GREY said the object of the Bill was not to promote eviction, but to stimulate the employment of people upon it, by sinking capital in it. The clause, as it stood, ought nut to be passed by the Committee. After a few words from Sir W. SOMERVILLE, who said that the poor-rates could not be easily collected, Mr. R. M. FOX said the company would not be likely to purchase lands which were much incumbered by te nants in an extreme state of poverty. He considered that the rates could be easily collected. Mr. REYNOLDS was favourable to the clause ; but it appeared that no provision was made as to the parties who were to make rates for the support of evicted poor. The company must clear the land of paupers ; there was no other alternative.—(Hear, hear.) He believed the company was a purely mercantile and not a purely benevolent one. It was right that there should b e no hypocrisy about it—(Laughter)—and ho trustedAtfeteira a fe tnihr of I at i‘ o . th wr e eo r lra m dsn e d r fr c wo a om n u t l i md le rb s e pi tE c a u Nr l t a Le t d i u. o y ns , with respect to h Sir G. GREY said the company ' was to be compelled to support those ev i cted for five years. If Hon. Gentlemen would put the clause in the hands of any legal gentle they would and that this was (10. Mr. ROCHE said the great panacea required for Ireland was the investment of capital; but this would be altogether prevented if the support of the poor on land purchased was made a permanent charge upon a com pany like this. Mr. P. SCROPE wished to prevent the eviction of a large class of persons in Ireland, and he knew of no better mode of effecting this than by compelling the company to support those whom they evicted. He supported the amendment, and trusted the Government would agree to it. Mr. MONSELL said if he considered the Bill calcut lated to evict the small cottiers of Ireland, that he should not give it his support. Ho supported it because it would tend to the improvement of the land and employ the idle poor. Mr. ALCOCK supported the amendment. Mr. P. HOWARD said the clause compelling the company to support persons whom they had evicted for five years would lead to those people remaining during the whole of that time in idleness, instead of striving to support themselves by honest labour. Colonel DUNNE said he would net oppose the wish of the Government, and would consequently withdraw his amendment for the present, hoping at the same time that the Government would be prepared to pledge itself to support his amendment when the report was broughtup. Sir G. GREY said it was not a Government measure, but he considered that the House would support the Hon. and Gallant Member in his amendment when the report was brought up. Alter a lengthened discussion, in which Mr. Augustus Safford, Sir C. Grey, Sir D. Norreys, Mr Reynolds, Mr, Henley, Mr. Roche, Mr. Alcock, Mr. P. Howard, and other Hon. Members took part, Colonel DUNNE withdrew the clause, and said that he should bring forward an amended one on the bring ing up of the report. The other clauses were then agreed to, as was also the preamble, and the report was ordered to be brought up . on Friday, at twelve o'clock. PAROCHIAL DEBT AND AUDIT BILL. The Committee on this Bill was postponed to Friday, at twelve o'clock. POOR-LAW UNION. The Committee on the Poor-Law Union District Schools Bill was postponed to Friday, at twelve o'clock, HIGHWAY BATES BILL. This Bill went through Committee, and was ordered to be reported to-morrow. COURT OF JUSTICIARY (SCOTLAND) BILL. The Committee on this Bill was postponed till to morrow, at twelve o'clock. CALEDONIAN CANAL BILL. This Bill was read a third time and passed. CONSTABULARY FORCE (IRELAND) BILL. This Bill was read a third time and passed. LOAN SOCIETIES BILL. The Committee on this Bill was postponed till Friday. FEES (COURT OF CHANCERY) BILL. The report on this Bill was brought up. TURNPIKE ACTS CONTINUANCE BILL. The second reading of the Bill was postponed till Friday, at twelro o'clock. • The House then adjourned until Five o'clock. The SPEAKER resumed the Chair at Five o'clock. Sir B. HALL presented a petition from the parish o St. Pancras against the increased police rate. THE NATIONAL LAND SCHEME. Mr. HAYTER brought up the report of the Comm, tee appointed to inquire into the state of Mr. Feargus O'Connor's National Land Scheme. On the motion of Mr. O'CONNOR, it was read by the Clerk at the table. The report, after stating that the evidence taken before the Committee would be laid upon the table, proceeded to state that the Canimitteo bad come to the following resolutions :—First, That by this Bill it proposed to make additional provisions to the Friendly Societies Act, which is incorporated with the Bill in question, and to alter and amend the 9th and 10th of Victoria for the amendment of the law relating to friendly societies, but the Bill does not include the National Land Company. 2d. That the National Land Company is not consistent with the general principle upon which friendly societies are founded. 3d. That the National Land Company, as at present constituted, is an illegal society, and will not fulfil the expectations held out by the directors through the chairman. 4th. That it appears to the Committee, and by the evidence of several witnesses, that the whole system of proceeding in the National Land Com pany, as well as the accounts, have been most imper• fectly kept ; that the original balance-sheets signed by the auditors have been destroyed ; and that only three of these balance-sheets, namely, for the quarters ending the 29th September, the 25th December, 1847, and the 25th March, 1848, respectively, have been pro duced ; but Mr. O'Connor having expressed his opinion that an impression bad gone abroad that the moneys subscribed by the National Land Company had been applied to his own benefit, this Committee are clearly of opinion that, although the accounts have not been kept with strict regularity, yet they are greatly against Mr. O'Connor, instead of being in his favour; for it appears by the evidence of Mr. Gray .that there is due to Mr.:O'Connor the sum of 3,2981. ss. 34d., and by Mr. Tindell, the sum of 3,4001. sth. That considering the great number of persons interested in the scheme and bana fide, with which it appears to have been carried, it is the opinion of this Committee that that power might be granted to the parties concerned, if they should so desire it, to wind up the undertaking and relieve them from the penalties to which they may have subjected themselves. In submitting, those resolutions, it is the opinion of the Committee that it ought to be left entirely to the parties concerned to propose to. Parliament any new measure for carrying out the objects of the promoters of the company. Mr. O'CONNOII said, with regard to the financial statement of the report, he begged to state that although the balance sheets were not produced, the book from which these balance-sheets were made were laid before the Committee. The resolutions were exceedingly favour able to him, but he could not allow an impression to go abroad, that those workmen who had been managing this company under his direction were liable to any odium for the irregularities complained of. Having stated thus much, and that the resolutions were unani mously come to, he hid only to appeal to the Chairman and the other Members of the Committee, to say whether every facility was not afforded to them to investigate the accounts and the affairs of the company. Mr. HAYTER bore his willing testimony to the truth of the statement made by the Hon. and Learned Gentle.. man. Every facility was given to the Committee to in vestigate the accounts, and the other matters relating to the accounts. Every officer that was called for was produced, and the accounts were regularly investigated by the accountant appointed by the Committee, and the result had been such as stated in the resolutions. With regard to the general question, he should be quite ready to go into that when the evidence was in the hands ofi Hon. Members, and it only remained for him to confirm the statement of the lion. and Learned Gentleman that the resolutions were unanimously agreed to by the Com mittee. Sir B. HALL wished to say a few words with regard to the observations which had fallen from the Hon. and Learned Gentleman. He perfectly agreed with him that every facility was given to the Members of the Committee to investigate the affairs of the Company ; but at the same time he could not conceal from himself the fact that the whole of the original accounts stated to have been audited by Mr. Cully and Mr. Knight, with the exception of the accounts :ending for the quarters of of September, December, 1947, and March 1848, had been destroyed.— (Hear, hear.) He wished to ask the Hon. Gentleman what course he intended to take in order to effect the complete regis tration of the company; and he also wished to know whether he proposed to make over the estates vested in his name to those persons who, under tho rules and regulations of the society, were entitled to them. Mr. O'CONNOR thought the course that had been pursued by the Hon. Baronet was rather uacandid and unfair to him (Mr. O'Connor), for he had sought upon the bringing up of the report to cast imputations upon his motives. With respect to the question that had been put to him, the only answer he could give was that it was left by the report of the Committee to the propounders and promoters of the society to say whether they would wind up the society, or apply to Parliament for power to carry it With respect to the second question he had offered to the Committee to apply to the House to give him power to hand over the property to the parties who had agreed to purchase it. The report was then ordered to be received. On the question that it be printed, Mr. O'CONNOR said that the Hon. Baronet had attempted to confuse the accounts of the financial secretary with his (Mr. F. O'Connor's) accounts. Mr. HAYTER, in answer to a qaestion from Mr. Bouverie, said that according to the calculations of the accountant, it would be from 150 to 250 years before parties could obtain the benefits that had been held out to them by this society.—(A laugh.) Mr. G. THOMPSON bore his testimony to the entire exoneration of the Hon. Member for Nottingham from the charge made against him, that in the prosecution of this scheme, he only considered his own benefit, and not that of the working classes. The report was then ordered to be printed. (LEFT SITTING.) THE LONDON GAZETTE. (THIS EVENING.) WAR-OFFICE, Auo. 1, 1848. 9th Light Dragoons—Lieutenant George Pinckney Atkinion, from the 89th Fooi, to be Lieutenant. vice lichards, appointed to 17th Light Dragoons, Aug. 1. 11th Light Dra goons —Li eutenant William Foster to vice e C Co rnetaFpotpsatieensr, t ; e rbEyypurchase,re Garlandc Coots, eto bGIT Gent., net Lieutenant,t o Johnson, b e c who rbnye t purchase,retires;by. pur chase, r chase, vice Garland, August 1. 14th Light Dragoons —Captain William Longfield, from the 12th Foot, to be Captain, vice Shaw, appointed to the 63rd Foot, August 1. 17th Light Dragoons—Lieutenant William Frederick Richards, from the 9th Light Dragoons, to be Lieutenant, vice Campbell, appointed to the 89th Foot; Ensign Thomas Taylor, from the 3d West India Regi ment (Ridinginaster). to be Cornet, by purchase, vice Erskine, promoted; Aug. 1. Ist or Grenadier Regiment of Foot . Guards—Assist ant Surgeon James John Marjoribanks Wardrop, from the 7th Light Dragoons, to be Assistant Surgeon, vice Balfour, promoted, August 1. Scots Fusilier Guards—Lieutonantand Captain Charles Francis Seymour to be Captain and Lieutenant-Colonel, by purchase, vice Romilly, who retires ; Ensign and Lieutenant Edwa.td Jobn Otway to be Lieutenant and Captain, by purchase, vice Seymour; Ensign William ' Gascoyne Bulwer, from the .52d Foot, to be Ensign and Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Otvray, August 1. 2d Regiment of Foot—Major Jobn Burns, from the, 78th Foot, to be Major, vice Stinted, who exchanges; Captain Hector Munro, from the Royal Canadian Riflo Regiment, to be Captain, vice Hamilton, who exchanges, August 1. 19th Foot—Captain William James Hutchins, from the 63d Foot, to be Captain, vice Longfield, anointed to 14th Light Dragoons, Aug. 1. 14th Foot—John Barlow, Gent. to be Ensign, by pur• chase, vice Le Mesurier, appointed to the ;86th Foot, Aug. 1. 29th Foot—Ensign Edmond H. C. Pery to be Lieu tenant, by purchase, vice Singleton, who retires; Ensign Edward Hazlefoot Paske, from the 69th, Foot to be En sign, vice Pery, Aug. 1. ha 30th Foot—Ensign Graham Le Fevre Dickson to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Broome, who retires; James Crosby Anderson, Gent., to be Ensign, by pur chase, vice Dickson, Aug. 1, 45th Foot—Captain William Abraham Le Mesurier, from half-pay Unattached, to be Captain, vice William Smith, who exchanges, receiving the difference; Captain Thomas Wright, from half-pay . 95th Foot, to be Cap tain, vice William Abraham to Mesurier, who ex changes; Lieutenant Stephen B. Gordon to be Captain, by purchase, vice Wright, who retires; Ensign Arthur Smyth to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Gordon; Sergeant-Major Alexander Walker to be Ensign with out purchase, vice Browne, who resigns; Aug. 1. William Hodnett Rowland, Gent., to be Ensign, by pur chase, vice Smyth, Aug. 2. 52cl Foot—Cecil Lennox Peel, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Bulwer, appointed to the Scotch Fuji. her Guards, August 1. 57th Foot—Lieut.-Colonel Thomas Leigh Guldie, from half-pay Unattached, to be Lieutenant-Colonel, vice William Ross, whose appointment has been cancel led. August 1. . _ 63d Foot—Captain George Gardine Shaw, from the 14th Light Dragoons, to be Captain, vice Hutchins, appointed to the 12th Foot, Aug. 1. 66th Foot—Lieutenant Astley Paston Cooper to be Captain, by purchase, vice Taylor, who retires; Ensign Wildman Yates Peel to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Cooper; Ensign Frederick Le Mesurier, from the 14th Foot, to be Ensign, vice Peel, Aug. 1. 69th Foot—Cptain George Floyd Duckett, from half pay Unattached, to be Captain, vice George Abercrombie Robertson, who exchanges ; John William Charles Fagge, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Paske, ap pointed to the 29th Foot, Aug. 1. 74th Foot—Captain Robert Ross, from half-pay Unattached, to be Captain, vice Christopher B. Cardew, who exchanges ; Lieutenant the Hon. Francis William retires ; Fa E ne ns to ign be li C ir a z p o t j ain, by purchase, vice Ross, who C purchase, vice Fane; Lionel Ingle, W b Gent., t Lieutenant, t o be Ensign,by by purchase, vic Carey, A ug . 1. 77th Foot—Gentlema n Cadet William Henry Cecil George Pechell, from the Royal Military College, to be Ensign by purchase, vice Becher, who retires, Aug. 1. 78th Foot—Major Henry William Stisted, from the 2d Foot, to be Major, vice Burns, who exchanges, Aug. 1. 83d Foot—Ensign John Sharman Molony to be Lieu tenant, without purchase, vice Lane, deceased, June 29; Sergeant-Major William Hall to be Ensign, without pur chase, vice Blackburn, appointed Quarter-Master 91st Hoot, August 1; Gentleman Cadet George Henry Coch rane, from the Royal Military College, to be Ensign, without purchase, vice Molony, promoted, August 2. 89th Foot—Lieutenant Alexander Campbell, tram the 17th Light Dragoons, to be Lieutenant, vice Atkinson, appointed to the 9th Light Dragoons, Aug. 1. 91st Foot- , Ensign William Blackburn, froni the 83d Foot, to be Quartermaster, vice John Forbes, who re tires upon halt-pay ; Sergeant-Major Erederick Boehmer, from the 60th Foot, to be Adjutant (with the rank of Ensign), vice Jennings, deceased, Aug. 1. 98th Foot—Lieutenant William Ridsdale Bustin, from half-pay 10th. Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Mends, ap pointed to the 99th Foot ; Ensign Daniel Antoine Baby to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Bustin, who retires; Frederick Moller, Gent, to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Baby, Aug. I, 1848. 99th Foot—Francis Seymour Gaynor, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Wright, who retires, Aug. 1. Ceylon Rifle Regiment—Second Lieutenant John Brown to be First Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Hill, who retires; Valentine Baker, Gent., to be Second Lieu tenant, by purchase, vice Brown, Aug. 1. Cape Mounted Riflemen—Ensign Henry James Palmer to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Gahan, who retires ; Ralph Love! Thursby, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Palmer, Aug. 1, Royal Canadian Rifle Regiment, Captain Digby St. Vincent Hamilton, from the 2d Foot, to be 'Captain, vice Munro, who exchanges, Aug. 1. UNATTACHED.—Lieutenant James Clyde, from the 96th Foot, to be Captain, without purchase, Aug. 1. BREVET. — Captain William Abraham Le Mesurier, of the 45th Foot, to be Major in the Army, July 22, 1830; Major William Abraham Le Mesurier, of the 45th Foot, to be Lieutenant -Colonel in the Army, Nov. 9, 1846; Captain Thomas Wright, of the 45th Foot, to be Major in the Army, Jan. 10, 1837. HOSPITAL STAFF.—Assistant Surgeon Thomas Graham Balfour, M.D., from the Ist or Grenadier Regiment of Foot Guards, to be Staff Surgeon of the Second Class, and to be Surgeon of the Royal Military Asylum at Chelsea, vice Samuel George Lawrence, who retigns, August 1. lamonsiDum.—The Christian names of Ensign Crispin, 2d West India Regiment, are William Benjamin. Commissions by the Lord-Lieutenant of Kent. West Kent Regiment of Yeomanry Cavalry. Chislehurst Troop—Henry Bowden, Gent., to be Cornet, vice Morland, resigned, July 22. Oxenhoath Troop—Lieut. John Wingfield Stratford to be Captain, vice Sir William R. P. Geary, Bart., re signed; Cornet Francis Geary to be Lieutenant, vice Stratford, promoted ; Evelyn Boscawen, Gent., to be Cornet, vice Geary, promoted, July 22. Cobham Troop—John Stuart, Earl of Darnley, to be Captain; William Gladdish, Gent., to be Lieutenant, July 24; Thomas Harman Brenchley, Gent., to be Lieutenant ; William Webb Hayward, Gent., to be Cornet, July 25. Tunbridge Wells Troop.—The Honourable Charles Stewart Ilardingo to be Captain ; Cuthbert Jeddere Fisher, Gent., to be Lieutenant; Robert Springett, Gent., to be Cornet, July 25. WHITEHALL, JULY 22. e o ; ly county tnyh the of o appointed John Louch, of Somerset, Gent., t o b e a High Court of Chan cer y. L M ° a Tt gh t e Pe r °l4r E to : Extraordinary t C o th r h d aen i ncl BANKRUTS. Charles Ilunafrey, jun., merchant, Manor-street, Cam berwell, Surrey. Samuel Price, underwriter, Fish-street-hill, City. s Thomas Waldron, grocer, Rowley Regis, Stafford hire. --- Walter Dawe, builder, Holloway -street, Exeter. Francis Horn Rendell, builder, Torquay, Devonshire. Edward Gamalie' Winthrop, underwriter, Avenue road, Regent's-park. Joseph Wilson, grocer, Green's end, Woolwich. John Reginal Cousins, chemist, Ramsgate. George Washington Wakeman, upholsterer, Nantwich, Cheshire. James Howard, grocer, Liverpool. Charles Dutton, joiner, Tarvin, Cheshire. Francis Webster, innkeeper, Writtle, Essex. Henry Carpenter, oil merchant, Leicester-square. Edmund Appleyard, bookseller, Farringdon- street. Thomas Spiring, grocer, Bristol (and not Thomas Spring, as advertised in the London Gazette of July 28.) John Jackson, sen., tailor, Stockport, Cheshire. John Jackson, jun., and Peter Jackson, Heaton Norris, Lancashire. Charles Mason and Thomas Tu rner Rit son , p aper manufacturers, Longsight, Lancashire. ASSIZE ,INTELLIGENCE. MIDLAND ClRCUlT.—Leicester, July 31. The business of this circuit, instead of improving as it draws towards a close, gets worse, there being but one cause and very few prisoners ; the county calendar con taining ke names of about twenty persons, and the borough lender two. The offences charged were mostly of a trivial character. The assizes will probably be finished in one day. CRIMINAL COURT.—(l3efore Lord DENMAN.) Wiligam Sharp, aged thirty, was charged with stealing 911. 155., the property of one David White, of Croft, in this county. Mr. Simpson prosecuted. The prosecutor, who is a frame-work knitter, had saved up some money, which he kept in a box in his bedroom, there being sixty pounds ten in sovereigns and half-sovereigns, and thirty-one pounds five in silver. On the 16th of July he saw the money in the box safe, but on the lath, when be looked into the box, the money had been abstracted. The prisoner by his own acts proved himself guilty, for having taken the money arid spent a portion in dress for himself and a female named Thacker, whom he had associated with himself in the robbery, and who pleaded guilty, he sent back 81/. 10s. The jury found him Guilty, and he was sentenced to one year's imprisonment, and Thacker to six months. John Gardiner, aged 18, was charged with robbing his employer of 11. Ss. William Riley, the prosecutor, stated himself to be a worm doctor, at Loughborough; the prisoner was in his employ as an assistant, at 2s. per day on business days, but wet days were not allowed to come under that de scription; then he had nothing, and was obliged to find himself. The prosecutor had given him notice to quit his employment. On the morning of the Eth of June, his master had taken a sovereign and some silver out of a waistcoat pocket, giving the prisoner 6d. to fetch some articles, for which he was to pay twopence, and return ing the other money into the pocket of a waistcoat that lay on the bed. This was in the presence of the pri soner, who shortly after went up stairs, came down, went out, and never returned. Ho was taken up at Bir mingham with a lot of medicine bottles full to their stoppers, being able, as he said, " To gammon the flats." The jury Acquitted him. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. GUILDHALL. Henry Smith, Robert Salmon, and Thomas Harris, wore all brought up in custody of Edward Funnell and George Russell, two active officers of the City police force, on the charge of obtaining goods to a large amount from the various recciving•houses in London, and Richard Elsworthy, a carman, was also placed at the bar as the receiver. Mr. Humphreys, the solicitor, attended to conduct the case on behalf of Messrs. Chaplin and Horne, carriers; and Mr. Ogle, of Great Winchester•street,City, defended the prisoner Elsworthy. The evidence taken was of great length, and would be better understood if given in the form of a narrative. It appeared that Salmon and Smith were formerly in the employment of Messrs. Chaplin and Horne, the former as carman, and the latter as cart-boy, but they were both discharged, from a year and a-half to two' years back. Since then they had been jobbing about, i but latterly Salmon, in conjunction with the prisoner Harris, had gone on another tack. On the 29th they employed Smith, ostensibly for the purpose of re. moving some furniture from one of the railways, but in reality to go round with them to the various re ceiving-houses in London, and ask if there were any goods for the Brighton luggage train, and in a number of instances they succeeded in obtaining a large quantity of property. On the day in question they obtained from the Golden-cross, Charing-cross, some packages of China, glass, &c., to the amount of 151., and at the White Horse, Fetter-lane, a paper parcel containing crimson moreen and printed furniture of the value of 9/. The evidence then went to show that the three first pri soners were the parties who had called for these parcels, and that they were conveyed to the prisonerElsworthy's house, and there, opened, after which it was shown that a portion of one package, containing plate-glass, was' dis posed of in Holborn, by the prisoners Salmon and Harris. It was also proved that the carts of Elsworthy were used for the above purposes. The principal testimony against the three last prisoners was that of Smith, who made a confession as to the above circumstances, and whose statement was to a great extent corroborated by the va rious witnesses from all the different offices where they had called, and also by the purchasers of a portion of the property. Mr. Humphreys said that it would hardly be believed to what extent this system had been carried. _ Mr. Ogle contended that the evidence against bis client was so slight that he hoped Mr. Alderman Johnson would accept bail for him. Mr. Humphreys reviewed the whole of the evidence as against Etsworthy, and objected to his being admitted to bail. Alderman JOHNSON committed them all for trial, and refused bail. MARYLEBONE. Mr. Thomas Havard, a chemist and druggist, High• street, St. John's-wood, was brought before Mr. Brough ton, charged with having committed a cowardly assault upon his wife, Rebecca Havard. The complainant, whose head and face were covered with wounds, stated that on Sunday herself and the prisoner, accompanied by their five children, went to dine with the prisoner's mother at Wool wich. In consequence of being somewhat late when they arrived at the latter place, the mother-in-law spoke in an angry tone to the prisoner. The latter took offence at this and left the house, and proceeded home, leaving herself and family behind. On her return home at half-past ten o'clock the same night, she was told by a neighbour that the prisoner had gone to bed. Complainant then knocked at the door, and tried to make him hear. Not succeeding, she went to a person residing close by, and procured a ladder, by means of which a man got into the house by the window, and found the prisoner lying in bed. The noise of the chil dren who were with her awoke the prisoner, who came down stairs in a great passion, and abused her by ad dressing her in language of the filthiest nature. He then tore her bonnet and clothes, and having thrown her down on a chair, put ono hand round her neck, while with the other he beat her severely about the head and face. He then attempted to strangle her. She called out for help, end after a sharp struggle she managed to get away, and ran to the house of a neighbour, who sent for a surgeon to dress her wounds. Complainant added, that her clothes were completely saturated with blood, which flowed in torrents from the wounds inflicted by the prisoner. Further evidence having been received, he admitted the assault, and was very sorry for his conduct towards his wife. He hardly knew what he was doing. Mr. BROUGHTON said, in all his experience he never heard or saw a more disgraceful and cowardly assault. It did not appear that any provocation at all had been offered on the part of the prosecutrix, whom, instead of protecting, as he had sworn at :the altar to do, he bad treated worse than a savage treated his victim. It was his (Mr. Broughton's) business now to send him for trial, but as that would be inflicting an additional injury on the prosecutrix ; he would take upon himself to dispose of the case. He, therefore, fined him 51. for the brutal assault on his (prisoner's) wife, and in default would commit him for two months to the House of Correction. In addition to that, he should require him to enter into his own recognizances in 50/., and to find two sureties in 401. each, with 24 hours' notice of bail. The prisoner was , thenconveyed to prison in the van SOUTH MARK. F. J. Moss, an attorney, was charged before Mr. Combo with obtaining 11. 145., costs in a cause decided in the Southwark County Court, under false pretences. Mr. Roberts, a solicitor in the above court, said that some time since a cause, Hill against Robinson, was tried and determined at the Southwark County Court, and that the prisoner was subpoenaed on the part of the plain tiff to give evidence. But subsequently to the issue of the case, the prisoner called at the court and represented himself to have been the attorney engaged in the busi ness, and that upon this false representation the costs, amounting to IL 145., were paid over to him. Mr. Roberts added, that he was prepared to prove that the prisoner was not engaged in the way he described, and that if he did so to the magistrate's satisfaction, be trusted that he would treat the charge as that of obtain ing money under false pretences, and send it before a jury. He then:called Mr. Farmer, a clerk in the Southwark County Court, who produced a book containing the entry of the case Hill against Robinson, and stated that the prisoner called at the court subsequently to the decision of the case, and represented, in answer to the questions put to him, that he was the attorney engaged in the matter. That upon this representation he (witness) paid him over the costs, amounting to 11. 14s. The prisoner contended that he was engaged as soli citor in the case referred to, and that he was only anxious to court inquiry, and would be enabled to prove satisfactorily that he had not acted in the business con trary to the Act regulating County Courts. Mr. CONDE said, that in his opinion, if a fraud had been committed, it was against the County Court; that as the matter at present stood he would give the com plaining party an opportunity of indicting the prisoner, and for that purpose he should adjudge him to enter into his own recognisances to appear at that Court op Wednesday; and in the mean time proceedings might be adopted against him at the sessions, which were then holding for the county of Surrey. The accused having entered lato his recognisances, was liberated, and Mr. Roberts proceeded to the Ses sions-home to commence proceedings against him. SALMON FISHING IN SUTHERLA NDSHIRB.—We understand his Grace the Duke of Sutherland has given a jubilee this year to all his rivers in Sutherlandshire; and as this applies to net as well as rod fishing, the rivers are absolutely teeming with salmon, grilse, and trout. A friend from the banks of the Shin writes that that river presents the appearance of a boiling pot of water, from the constant leaping of the fish; and, as the watching is strictly preserved, he anticipates the same increased produce next year from the rivers, which a year's rest secures from the land. It is only, however, a few counties, like Sutherlandsbire, where the fishings are in the hands of one or two proprietors, that such an experiment can be effectually tried; as in the case of the Tay, where the upper and lower portions of the river belong to different proprietors, the interests of the parties are too conflicting to admit of a common mea sure of the above nature. We may mention that the gentleman above referred to is yearly receiving addi tional confirmation of his theory, that the par is the young of the salmon at a particular stage. A great variety of that genus were taken from the Shin in December last, and transferred to ponds formed at the sides of the river, some of which showed the silvery scale of the smolt in May, and others subsequently, ac cording to their age. There seems now, indeed, no ground upon which this fact can reasonably be disputed, Glasgow Courier. IMP ER.I.AL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, July 31. IRELAND. Lord BROUGHANT;tidthatl;efore the prorogation, he was desirous of calling the attention of the House to the state of Ireland, and for that purpose he would, on Thursday next, move that there be laid on the table the proclamation of the Lord:.Lieutenant for the apprehen sion of political offenders, when he would take the op portunity of stating his -views with regard to Ireland ge nerally. He expressed the hope, however, that Govern ment would consider whether, in the present state of the country, it was expedient to have any prorogation at all. He might add, that in the course of a few days—perhaps before Thursday evening—they might see the civil war which was now threatened, completely checked, and in that case his motion would be unnecessary, and in that case he should not bring it on. The Earl of GLENGALL wished to ask a question of her Majesty's Government, relative to a subject of much importance. On the lath instant a meeting of delegates was held in Dublin, when a resolution was carried that an attempt should be made to subvert Bri tish dominion in Ireland. At that meeting three or four magistrates of the borough of Kilkenny attended as a deputation from the town of Kilkenny. He begged lea►e to ask whether those persons were still in the commission of the peace? The words of the resolution were similar to a declaration of war, and were of a highly treasonable nature. The magistrates, in many parts of Ireland, were swearing in special constables, and if those magistrates, to whom he alluded, should be equally active, there was great danger of clubbists being sworn in as special constables. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said he was unable to state whether those gentlemen had been removed from the commission of the peace, but lie gave the Noble Lord at the head of the Government in Ireland, and the Lord Chancellor of Ireland, credit for being alive to the proceedings of persons entrusted with such au important trust. EVICTED DESTITUTE. POOR (IRELAND) BILL. Thu Marquis of CLANRICARDE moved that their Lordships should not adhere to the amendments they had made in this Bill. He did not expact there would be any opposition to the motion, as the other House of Par liament had unanimously adopted the original provisions of the Bill. Lord MONTEAGLE objected that such important matters should be disposed of without discussion. The question at issue was whether the guardians should have notice forty-eight hours before the eviction took place, or twelve hours after, and whether the names of the jus tices should he specified, or merely the lands. Ho thought the specification of the lands only would not be the best course in order to discover who the parties were to be relieved. Their Lordships' amendments required that the names of the parties should be given, and be thought they should adhere to that. He should say non content. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE said that they were obliged to give notice that the writ was to be executed, and that would display the names of the parties as well as the lands. It would be useless to give notice twelve hours after the eviction, at a place twenty miles distant, as would be frequently the case after these persons were destitute and house less. It was the habit in Ireland to collect rents under the threats of notices to quit, which , vas a state of rural economy which should be put a stop to. It would be more becoming their dignity to agree to the amend mote) unanimously agreed to by the House of Commons. lle should move that they should not rest upon their amendments to the Bill. Lord BEAUMONT thought it would be better for the poor that the notice should be given twelve hours after eviction, and that the Commons had made a mistake in adopting the other principle. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said he could not agree with the Noble Lord that the Commons were wrong. The names were nothing without they could ascertain the particulars of the case, which they could not do unless previous notice had been given, in order to find who were the parties entitled to relief. Without this notice the parties might starve in the interval. The motion was then put and agreed to. INCUMBERED ESTATES (IRELAND) BILL. The LORD CHANCELLOR moved the adoption of the Commons' amendments to this Bill. The object of the amendments was to provide for the sale of incum bered estates without the intervention of the Court of Chancery. He felt assured that it would only be neces sary to convince their Lordships that this could be done with safety, to induce them to adopt them. The provi sions would effect that, as the parties selling under this Bill would be bound to give notice . to all parties inte rested, and when all parties concurred the sale could take place, but if ally objected they could take excep tion, and bring forward their objections in the Court of Chancery, where, if they were found satisfactory, the sale would be prevented; but when the sale took place, with the concurrence of all partiea interested, there would be a valuation previously made of the estate by a surveyor appointed by the Lord-Lieutenant. The sale when effected would constitute a good legal title against all claimants. The Noble and Learned Lord was under stood to conclude by recommending that their Lordships should agree to the Commons' amendments. Lord STANLEY minutely reviewed the circumstances connected with the Bill from the period of its introduc ton to the House of Lords down to the present time, and gave it as his opinion that the measure now assumed a totally different aspect from that which it presented when their Lordships unanimously adopted it. In point of fact, the Bill was not amended, but materially altered. It was a new Bill, many of the original provisions hav ing been completely suspended, and alterations effected by the Solicitor-General, who declared that the measure, in the shape prepared by the Lord Chancellor on the part of the Government, was incapable of being worked. This he considered as a most inconvenient course of legislation between the two Houses of Parliament. It was highly inconvenient that at the end of a pro tracted session they should receive a Bill so altered in its character, and have those alterations recommended for their assent by the Noble and Learned Author of the Bill. Upon the ground too that many Irish Peers were necessarily absent from Parliament, attending to high and important duties in Ireland, he objected to the considera tion of the amendments at the present time, involving as they did twenty-three new clauses, and the alteration of several of its old clauses. If the Bill in its new form had to pass through the various stages of first, second, and third readings, report, and committee, then indeed, his objection might be regarded as trivial; but when they were by one vote to come to a conclusion as to the adoption or non-adoption of the measure, he thought he was quite right in designating , the present an incon venient mode of legislation; and in protesting against the further progress of the Bill, until the return of the Irish Peers, who had given their assent to the measure in a totally different form. He desired their Lordships also to bear well in mind, that there was not a single Peer or Member of the other House of Parliament pre pared to pass the Bill, who was willing that it should be applied to England or Scotland; yet the English and Scotch Peers, in the absence of the Irish Peers, were called upon to pass the Bill, and to legislate in a manner and on a principle respecting the sale of incumbered estates in Ireland, which they ,were not prepared either to advert or to advocate for them selves. The measure was so altered from the original, and so completely changed in detail, that he thought it would not be an unreasonable proposition if he were to move that the Commons' amendments be referred to the consideration of a Select Committee, to report on their technical as well as practical effect. If he saw any die position exhibited to adopt their suggestions, ho should make a specific motion on the subject. The Earl of WICKLOW said that, after the speech of the Noble Lord, he was quite prepared to have heard him moving the rejection of the amendments, instead of their reference to a Select Committee. He thought they should agree to the amendments of the Commons, and he was.confirmed in this view by the statement of the Noble and Learned Lord on the Woolsack, who recom mended their adoption, inasmuch as the changes effected were not of that material character to affect the principle of the measure. Under the circumstances, he did not think there was any necessity for the attendance of Irish Peers to consider these amendments, because, in addition to other reasons, it would be tantamount to a postponement of all legislation on the subject until next session of Parliament. Lord MONTEAGLE thought that the Noble Lord opposite (Lord Stanley) had rather under than over stated the objections to the amendments, and although he felt the necessity for some measure on this subject, he could not be a consenting party to alterations which so seriously affected .the character of the Bill their Lord ships had unanimously carried. He had over and over again complained of Bills being altered in tho House of Commons when sent from the House of Lords, but he never recollected a case where alterations had taken place so extensive as in the present instance. The proper course would have been, had such alteratioris been deemed necessary, to have withdrawn the Bill in the House of Commons, and allowed a new one to be brought in that House. That was what was due to the House of Lords, and it was the course which should have been adopted, but he considered it unfair to discuss these amendments in the absence of so many Irish Peers, who were so much interested in their enactment. In respect to the proposal of the Noble Lord opposite (Stanley), which no doubt was made in good faith, all ho proposed was that they should refer these amendments of the Com mons to a Select Committee. If he thought that course would defeat the Bill, he would oppose it; but he thought that proper inquiry was their first duty, in order to ascertain properly what was wanted, and then they could legislate on the facts and circumstances which such inquiry divulged. The Earl of DEVON said, as the principle of the mea sure was to facilitate the sale of incumbered estates in Ireland, he thought that was a principle which it was most necessary should be carried out. In regard to the amendments of the Commons, these had been well consi dered, and they had found that the object of the Bill could be efficiently carried out by other means than through the machinery of the Court of Chancery. The number of amendments was complained of, but these were required from the view the House of Commons had taken on the subject, as when it was determined not to go to the Court of Chancery in certain cases, a great many clauses were required to regulate the giving of notices tq the various parties interested. Wishing, therefore, to see the Bill pass this session, he could not consent to a Select Committee, as it was of the greatest importance it should become law as early as possible. The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH said, while the principle of the measure introduced by the Lord Chan cellor was to give all reasonable facilities to the sale of incumbered estates, the principle of the present Bill , was to give all unreasonable powers for that purpose. The course of their present legislation was to get rid of a certain class of Irish landlords; but, he would put it to English landlords, whether the system adopted for that purpose was a right or a just one? At all events, he conceived that before certain powers had been taken from the Court of Chancery and given to another body, inquiry was necessary, in order that it might have been ascertained to what other body such powers should have been confided. Under the operation of the. Act, as now amended, property would be disposed of at so low a rate that the mortgages upon it could n o t b e liquidated, and therefore the parties could reap no benefit from it. A person having a mortgage of 200 L upon an estate could put this Act in motion; one having 1,0001. on five estates could farce a sale of all those, and thus, by bringing all those estates simultaneously into the market, a proper value could not be expected for the properties, and the real owners would, therefore, be unfairly dealt with. Should they agree that such estates should not be sold at less than twenty years' purchase, then that might be sonic security to the owners; but, unless they gave some security to the incumbrancers against fraud, they would commit the greatest wrong on the owners of pro perty by passing the present measure. The Earl of GLENGALL agreed with the Noble Lord (Lord Stanley) that it was most necessary the Bill should be referred to a Select Committee, as there were so many technicalities connected with the case, that inquiry was much wanted. He bad a great many amend ments himself to propose, whieh he would persist in doing, although he might be called factious in so doing. Considering as he did that this Bill was a Bill of rob bery, faction was good against robbery any day in the week.—(Hear, hear.) If they adopted the Bill they would run a great risk of losing the support of those who were at present standing by the Government and the Crown, as there would be no security to parties getting proper value for their properties. It was well known that there were companies formed for the purpose of lending money on Irish estates, and he happened to know the secret history of one forming by six English Quakers, who had concocted a scheme for the purpose of purchasing Irish estates, when, by their plan, they had driven a great quantity of land into the ' market at a price far below its real value. It was not to be supposed that these Quakers intended to go to Ireland and reside there; no, they would again resell the land at a profit, in small parcels, to other parties. This was the game they were at. The facts were well known in the offices at the east end of London, and it was from parties such as these that this plan emanated, and who support the Bill with that view. He asked their Lordships whe ther they would pass this Bill under these circum stances? It was not that the great body of Quakers are engaged in this plan, but these half dozen had taken advantage of the benevolence of their sect, and pro posed it under pretence of doing good. This Bill was neither more nor less than a confiscation of pro perty. He asked their Lordships to mark his words. If this Bill came into operation (said the Noble Lord) you will do more than Mr. O'Connell was able to do, you will repeal the union, because you will confiscate the lauded property of the Protestant proprietors, and when once their property is taken from them, the English Church in Ireland will not be keg in following the alienation of that property.—(Hear, hear.) Under the poor-law there were four unions that were now paying from 12s. to 17s. 9d. in the pound for poor-rates, and if the land of these unions was thrown into the market he asked who on earth would give a single shilling for it. It was the opinion of the Master of the Rolls in Ireland that this Bill was ono that ought not to pass in its pre sent shape, and there was no man in either country to whose opinion more respect was due, because of late years he had paid great attention to the subject, and had experienced great difficulty in placing property under receivers. For the reasons he had given, he hoped their Lordships would allow the Bill to go into a Select Com mittee, where all these details would be argued impar- .~.-:- tially and at leisure, and that it would not go hack to Ireland that their Lordships had passed a Bill for the confiscation of Irish estates. The Marquis of LANSJ)OWNE felt called upon to offer a few observations, in reply to the Noble Earl who had just sat down, because that Noble Lord had argued as if the Government which introduced this Bill, and the Parliament which had passed it, had been actuated by a desire to confiscate the property of the landlords of Ireland. He said, on the contrary, that they were most anxious to promote the prosperity of the landed pro prietors, and that the Bill had been introduced with that object as one mode by which they could be relieved from their difficulties. But when they talked of the landlords of Ireland as being affected by this Bill. Who were they? and in what capacity would they be affected by it? It was admitted, when he brought forward this , subject two years ago, not in that, but in the other House of Lords, that there was a great proportion of the landed property of Ireland in which all the duties of property were neglected, and all the evils of poverty endured; their Lordships said at that time that such a state of things should be altered.— (Hear.) They said that estates instead of remaining in the hands of those who had not the means of employ ing labour and improving cultivation, but on the con trary. who, by the difficulties in which they were in volved, retarded both these desirable objects, should be dealt with in some way for the public benefit.—(Hear.) Hence the Bill. The Noble Earl (Ellenborough) in the course of his speech, had attacked the Bill severely, and had thrown out two amendments, which so far from im proving the condition of the proprietors, would in his opinion injure them. Ono of these amendments was, that the proprietor should not be allowed to sell, in order to pay off a part of his debts, unless he sold off enough to pay for the whole of his incumbrances. Why, did not that impose a limit which would be extremely injurious to the proprietors ?—(llear, hear.) The plan of the Government would enable him to bring a part of the es tate to sale, to give more labour, and to improve in many ways the remainder, thus increasing its productiveness and its value. Then again, the Noble Earl suggested that no sale should be allowed which did not realise twenty years' purchase. What would be the effect of that suggestion if it was adopted ? Why, that if a proprietor was compelled by any circumstances to make a sale, he would be compelled to sell at twenty years' purchase the best parts of his estate for that price instead of the worst. There could not be a more injurious restriction than that. He might, therefore, dis miss these two suggestions at once from consideration. He was not able any more than other Noble Lords to pass an opinion as to what would be the technical bear ing of certain clauses, but at all events he was entitled to say that there never was a Bill which came into their Lordships' House with a greater weight and authority. It had been carefully considered, not by Noble and Learned Lords who held office with different Govern ments, but also by Noble and Learned Lords whose impartiality was vouched for by their judicial habits, and he might, therefore, say that this part of the subject had been duly considered by parties much more competent to decide upon it than the Noble Earl.. As to the statement that the Bill had been too short a time before their Lordships in its present shape, he would remind them that it had been sent up last Tuesday, and had thus been six days in their Lordships' House. But even before the Bill came up, their Lord ships were not to be supposed to be so completely bound by forms as to be ignorant of what was passing in the other House, more especially when they had the votes of that House sent up to them daily.--(Hear, hear.) The Bill had been under discussion in the other House since the 11th of June, and it could not be supposed that their Lordships had shut their eyes and. ears, and were quite ignorant of what had been doing in this matter. On these grounds he contended that Noble Lords were not entitled to ask for more time or to cause greater delay in passing a measure of such importance as this,—(Hear.) Again, with regaid to the stress that had been laid on the necessity for obtaining the opinions of Noble and Learned Lords. All the Noble and Learned Lords in that House were in favour of the Bill, and those who were absent must be supposed either to be in favour of it, or to consider that any defects in the measure were of so trifling a character as not to be worth their attendance.—(Hear, hear.) He would not object to any amendments which were proposed by parties friendly to the Bill, but he must object to delay for the mere purpose of retarding the passing of' the measure. As the Noble Earl (Earl Devon) had shown, the amendments were not new additions to the Bill ; on the contrary, they were intended and calculated to carry out its objects more effectually, and to remove all un necessary obstructions to its beneficial operation. One of the objections urged to this Bill was, that a person holding a mortgage of 2001. might compel a sale ; but a person with only that amount must give at least six months' notice of foreclosure ; and surely in that time, if any general attempt like that supposed was made, the landlords would have time to prepare for it. It was said that these estates should not be brought to sale under the present circumstances of the country ; but he asked their Lordships to recollect, en the other hand, that the state of the country was in a great measure caused by the bad management of such property.— (Hear, hear.) He hoped that their Lordships would, seeing:the, importance of the measure itself, the ample consideration it had received, and the authority by which it was supported, with as little delay as possible, adopt the amendments and pass it into a law. Lord STANLEY briefly replied. He denied that he opposed the Bill for the mere purposes of delay. As to the high authority of the Noble and Learned Lord on the Woolsaclo,no one had a higher respect for that Noble and Learned Lord than ho had ; but he must remind their Lordships that the Noble and Learned Lord had not always entertained the same opinions on this Bill. He would at once abandon his opposition to this Bill if either of the Noble and Learned Lords in the House would rise in his place, and say that it was either safe or expedient to apply the provisions of this Blil to England and Scotland. With re spect to the shortness of time, he protested against the doctrine, that their Lordships should be held to know anything of measures until they came formally before them, or that their Lordships were bound, day after day, to read all the amendments that might be proposed on Bills either by the Government or by other persons. He claimed for their Lordships the right of fully delibe rating on every question after it came constitutionally before them.—(Hear, hear.) He now asked fo r t i me, i n order to get the necessary explanations from Noble and Learned Lords as to the real operation of the new clauses. He knew the fate of his motion; but he should not be discharging his duty if he did not take the sense of their Lordships on the question. The LORD CHANCELLOR explained. He had formerly objected to the creation of a new jurisdiction in Ireland, on the ground that the Court of' Chancery in that country was already supported at the expense of the country, and ought to be sufficient. The amend ments did not create a new jurisdiction, but gave facili ties for sales, without the intervention of the Court in certain cases, and under certain r es t r i ct i ons. There was noinconsistencyin supporting that alteration. Lord LANGDALE said the principle of the Bill was not to facilitate the sale of incumberedi estates under contract for that purpose, but to facilitate sales notwith stanotwith- standing ther e were no contracts of that kind. The principle was to facilitate the sale of estates, the pro prietors of which were unable to discharge the ditties pertaining to them. The principle of the Bill had been already agreed to, and this, therefore, could not be called a new Bill. The Noble Lord (Stanley) asked whether such a Bill would have been proposed for England ? If the condition of England was the same as that of Ireland, he might not perhaps propose precisely this Bill, because he feared those clauses might render it inopera tive ; but he should certainly support a Bill with even more stringent provisions. The House then divided when there appeared For the motion—Contents Non-Contents Majority against Lord Stanley's amendment —l7 The Commons' amendments were then agreed to, and the House adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, July 31. SUGAR DUTIES. The House then resolved itself into Committee on the Sugar Duties; Mr. BERNAL in the chair. The CHANCELLOR, of the EXCHEQUER then proceeded to state the alterations which the Government intended to make in the sugar duties. The altera tion which the Government intended to make with respect to double and refined sugar were fully set forth :in the paper. The Government had hoped to have made some arrangement by which the poorer classes at home might obtain sugar at a reduced rate, but the result of interviews which he and his Honourable Friend the Member for Westbury had had with sugar refiners had led them to the opinion that they could not at present clearly see their way to the introduction of such a provision. The House would believe him when he said that no time nor pains were spared to come to a satisfactory conclusion. The main difficulty with which they had to contend was the necessity that the whole of the sugars which came from the refiners must be subject to some duty. If Government complied with the wishes of lion. Gentlemen opposite, and imposed restrictions upon the re fining of sugars for the protection of the honest manu facturer, it would only serve to revive the evils of excise interference, and he must therefore decline to comply with the demand of the Noble Lord and his followers. Mr. CARDWELL protested on behalf of the Liver pool sugar refinerss against the vacillation which cha racterised the proceedings of the Government with re gard to the sugar duties generally, and particularly with respect to their withdrawal of the measure at the eleventh hour, which had been promised to his constituents at an early period. Mr. LABOUCHERE denied that any such expecta tion had been held out, though he admitted that such an arrangement would be highly desirable; but so great were the difficulties in the way of carrying it into effect, that the Government were obliged to abandon the at• tempt for the present. Sir W. CLAY said that the sugar-refiners of London were not disappointed, inasmuch as they did not think that this measure, ir carried, would remedy their griev ances. Mr. BARCLAY proposed an amendment with regard to including cane, uice for consumption, but withdrew it after some discussion. Lord G. BENTINCK said he would now come to the first part of his amendment, which was the exclusion of the words, " end on all sugar and molasses not otherwise charged with duty," in the heading of schedule 3, re garding the duties on foreign sugar. Whilst he could not approve of the proceedings of her Majesty's Govern ment on this matter, he could not help admiring the ' deLonnaire with which the Chancellor of the Exchequer came down to the House and announced that he was going to disappoint the planters of the West Indies and the Mauritius by withholding the great boon which be had promised. In fact, the whole course of the Hon. Gentleman was a plea of guilty to the three-and -twenty counts which he (Lord George Bentincli) preferred ."Ati tice Hon ; confi mar adva the. ati g , WhO taUCI Tt Tt pou x and t Thut i t f ral t he, i °PP€ deril de ny is t Fre a 0 1111 refi t , But that with tate( One c pose( Af Bon, ; 11 . Th be of ad In su ou