The Sun. — London, England, 1848-08-22 00:00:00

COFFEE is quiet; 200 bags ord Domingo sold privately •t 268. Rum.—The quantity landed last week at the East and West India Docks was 1,021 puns 103 hhds there were taken for home consumption 374 puns 27 hints and ex ported 201 puns 403 hhds. The stock in the same places is 19,026 puns 3,307 hhds. SarapEras.-2,200 bags Bengal were all re ilised at and after the sales, in some instances at rather easier n tes ; 3I to 2 per cent. refraction at 25s 3d to 26s 6d ; gool E. st I ulia refined brought 275. Bricks.-1,450 bags Black Pepper at auction sold steadily, ord grey to good black Sumatra at 2id to 21d per lb. Terzow.—P.Y.C. is 44s per cwt on the spot, and Town 4fis 6d. TEA.—The market is steady, and the consumption go )d. COAL MARK E '. Dean's Primrose l3s Od Basting's Hartley lss Od Holywell Main l4s 6d New Tanfield l3s Od Newcastle Hartley Ord's Redheugh South Peareth Tanield Moor Townley l3s 6d Wall's End, &c. Medley ......... .... Hilda lss 3d Waahi4gton Eden Main r.-YBSTEKDAY. Belmont l6s 3d Braddyll's Hetten 166 6d Bell Hetton Larabton Morrison lss 6(1 Stewart's Cassop l6s Od Kelloe ... 16s Od South Durham lss 691 Anders 11's Garestie!d _ . Coke ^ Parson's Graigola 22s 01 Skips at market 59. CRIMINAL COURT.-(THIS DAY.) OLD COURT'. (Before the RECORDER and Alderman FARNCOMB.) CASE OF POLSONING.—Upon the application of Mr. CLARK 80x, who appeared for Mary Spry and Mary Ann IJore, who stand charged with the murder of an infant child , the former being the grandmother and the latter the mother of the it was considered by the Court that the body should be placed in the hands of Mr. Taylor, the eminent chemist at Guy's Hospital, for the purpose of having the contents of t he stomach analysed. The two prisoners, who occupy a I .."Pectable position in society. were charged upon a coroner's inquisition, and serious doubts have since seen entertained as to the truth of the statement that the death of the child was caused by the administration of poison. 41bert Brown, cabinet-maker, aged 21, was indicted with stealing, in the dwelling-house of Charles Wyeth. one watch and chain, value 141., the property of William Vaughan. William Vaughan deposed that the prisoner lived in the 'sone house with him, and that he quitted suddenly on the , 20 th of July without giving any notice. O n the same da y us missed the watch and chain. He received a letter from the prisoner a few days afterwards, stating that the watch was at Chatham, and the chain in a pawnbroker's shop in the Westminster-road. Upon making inquiries, he found out the prisoner, and he then admitted that he had taken the property in• question. Mr. Attenborough, of the Western-road, pawnbroker, Proved that the chain was pledged with him by the prisoner. , A person of the name of Nathan stated that the prison er mid offered the watch to him for sale. The prisoner's employer gave him a good character. The RECORDER having summed up, • The jury found a verdict of Guilty, and he was sentenced to imprisonment for six calendar months, in the House of Correction, with hard labour. G eorge Lewis was indicted with defrauding William Hurst out of the sum of two guineas, upon the representation that it was due as a fee to the district surveyor. The prosecutor stated that he was the owner of a beer-shop in Shoe -lane, and that he placed the prisoner, who was his Servant and assistant, in the shop for the purpose of carrying an the business. In May last certain repairs were going on at the shop, and on the 28th he gave two guineas to the pri soner, who stated that it had been claimed by the district Surveyor, as his fee for superintending the alterations under the Building Act. The prisone r told him that in the first instance the surveyor claimed 51., but ultimately he had got it reduced to two guineas. In the beginning of June he dis covered that the proper fee was only 30s. Mr. Kemp, clerk to the district surveyor, Mr. Stevens, said he called upon the prisoner on the 28th of May, and handed him a paper with a fee of 308. marked upon it. The prisoner told him to call again in the course of the day, which he did, when he paid him 1/., and promised to pay the remainder if he ca me again during the week. He never made a demand of 5/. or of 21. on any occasion. Mr. Hurst, the prosecutor, paid him the remaining 10s. on the discovery of the fraud. Mr. Bond, au accountant, stated - that the prisoner had giren credit to the prosecutor for two guineas in his books, and had inserted the amount as a payment to the district sur- Veyor. In the course of Mr. Ballantyne's speech for the defence, the prisoner was seized with a kind of hysterical fit, and the business of the Court had to be suspended while he was being removed. The RECORDER having addressed the Jury, • The Jury found a verdict of Guilty, and he was sentenced to be imprisoned for three calendar months, with hard labour. THE CHARTISTS. In the course of the day the grand jury returned true bills against James Maxwell Bryson, George Shell, John James Bezer, John Shaw, and John Wilson, for misdemeanours, in uttering seditious language on the 28th ult. ; the first two at the Chartist Hall, Webber-street, Blackfriara-road ; the last . three at the Milton-street Theatre, Cripplegate. Mr. Hayward, clerk to the solicitor of the Treasury, was in attendance upon the jury, as were also the Government short-hand writers, Messrs. Bond Hughes and James White, who read the speeches that were delivered from their short hand notes. NEW COURT. • (Before the COMMON SERGEANT, Mr. Alderman FARE BROTHEL, and Mr. Sheriff HILL.) lifary Menton, 42, pleaded guilty to an indictment charging her with stealing one shirt, one shift, one table-cloth, a hand kerchief, &c., of the value of 4 s. 6 d. , the property of Robert Hawes, and was sentenced to six months' imprisonment, and hard labour. ' John Logic, an old offender, although only eighteen years of age, pleaded Guilty to an indictment charging him with stealing a bird-cage, the property of Peter Gully, within the Liberty of the T o of London, and was sentenced to seven Years' transportation. John Symons Babbage, 25, a respectable-looking man, . Pleaded Guilty to an indictment charging him with stealin g • five table covers. of the value of 51. 10s„ the property of Wm. tn W o hit tand others, his masters, and was sentenced to ni ne j o ninprison men t and hard labour. rigible n ; `''nell, 15, and Edward Woodgate, 11, two incor groves,- 3 : a n iu n e g c r s o . gueq, pleaded Guilty to stealing fire pairs of 10d , the property of Richard Smith, and were sentenced to seven . years' transportation. S'arah r7i Sy 29 con victed of stealing a watch, of the yasue of 5/., th e ' was property of Arthur Abraham Kirkman, from his person, and was sentenced to four months' impri sonment and hard labour. The remainder of the morning was occupied with Mint cases, none of which presented features calling for a parti cular report. MIDDLESEX SESSIONS. (THIS DAY.) The August Adjourned Sessions were opened this morning at the Court-house, Clerkenwell-green, by the Assistant Judge and County Magistrates. The Learned JUDGIS having addressed the usual charge to the Jury, 'las Donelly, aged 26, was indicted for picking t he p ocket of a bliss Jane Dawson of a purse containing 71. 15s. 6d. The prosecutrix stated that on the afternoon of the sth of August she was passing through Southampton - row , Russell-square ; she felt a pull at her pocket, and missed her purse. A little girl, who was standing near, pointed to the prisoner, who was running, and said, " That is the man who stole your purse." The prisoner was taken to the station-house, and identified by the little girl. The purse was not found on him. A. third third witness swore that she observed the prisoner Put his hand to Miss Dawson's pocket. The prisoner denied all knowledge of the transaction The jury having deliberated a considerable time, expressed a 'wish to retire. The Learned JUDGE, who appeared to be surprised at this intimation, ordered the officer of the Court to be sworn in the usual manner • but before the oath was gone through, the foreman said that they had agreed to a verdict of Not Guilty. The JUDGE then said to the prisoner, " Get away with You—it will not be three months until we have you here Haiti ;" and to the jury, " Gentlemen, there is no doubt at 411 that he stole the purse." STATUE TO THE LATE LORD CHIEF JUSTICE TIN DAL--On Saturday last a public meet in g o f the in habitants ofChelmsford was held at the Shire-hall , for the purpose of takingtaking measures for carrying , out the project of ere ctin g a "atue to the late Lord. Chief Justice Tindal, in this his native town; and when we state that nearly 1001. was sub -Bcrit, bed in a few minutes by about twenty individua l s , it will be seen that this first step in the work is an. encouraging one. The idea of the statue was first started by the bar, en appropriate tribute to the profound legal knowledge, re sound judgment, and the upright mind, which re "acted] so much honour on their high profession; and, [ annulated by hints from that quarter, the genius of 13a ilY, as is already , known , has p roduced a desi g n tha statue of the deceased judge , w h i ch, if VI object now in hand be accomplished, will pro f a bly , be adopted and placed on the space in : s ra tit of the Shire-hall. Before, however. th at can be carried out, the hundreds must be swelled into thousands; but we t,te induced to believe, that as the purpose b ecomes known, pkaelrasford, Public ge where, as nerally will the birthplace come to the aid of the of local great effo man,rt. In a tense -" of honest pride and respect for his private virtues .... - ngles with admiration of his judicial character, the cause, i; e are sure, will be taken up, and carried forward by no i ee itating or niggard hands. But Chelmsford cannot accom -131411 all. And we not only look to the magistracy who, as rind jurors, and otherwise, were so of ten associated with the earned judge in the dispensing of public justice, but to the tielltrY and inhabitants of the county , to all classes of th e Prefession—in fact, to the nation—for the object is a a al • nat i onal on e —o di n rendering the testimonial one that will __ h e an honour to the arts, and worthy of the memory it mg e tuatee. The meeting on Saturday was attended by of the leading inhabitants and tradesmen of the town. • r „ 481e ' t Hera id eart Z CHARTIST PLOT. —Amongst the fire balls, uf the Char seized Barre the police at the lodgings of some lic a l sts lately ted, are some missiles of a diabo in f a aracter. They consist of a packet, somewhat square pi e ,„„ i _ , covered with brown paPer, and filled with nails, „„7:4 1 iron, and coarse gunpowder. Attached to each is a *h a neo e tton, which leads to the powder. When ignited t would in half a minute explode, and kill or seri were, ta lre any one near. These missiles, it is suppoted, night th e &Ye been thrown into the windows of houses the faaiutreleaders were apprehended. derstana t juni or CHARTIST PRISONERS.--We un - tions, to deemed i t m at the sheriff's officials of Renfrewshire have liCee eir duty, after making the necessary investiga from the pr i v at e Messrs. Burrell and Neilson, of Greenock, last three viaa l l a uf Paisley, where they were confined for the tical offence, i t ° vs n the charge of having committed a poli body of Gree nap a s been mentioned to us that the Chartist Messrs. Burrell consideration of their respect for these men cared wereigeilson took care that the families of former. 9 fo r in their absence.—Renfrewslth e Re- His grace th e 1 -, joying the sport of 'M ike of Northumberland is en- DEATH (,'' sport shooting at his seat, Keilder Castle the 29th ult., on b oar °ll EL GEORGE AloOßE.—Died, on home from Calcutta, d the Earl of Hardwiek, on his passage 59th a nd 15,T.0g a , 61 5 8, Coloeel George Moore, of the years ofuous an d 'Jen gal Presidency, a ft er forty-four with the capture o f 4 1 :interrupted service ; commencing David Baird co ntinued • CaPe of Good Hope under Sir Burmese wars; with a throughout the Nepaulese and the in the late wars; and stuceession of commands as Brigadier the Rajpootana Field F or c e s with the command of signed for the object e f °r Fea ; which appointment be re- Colonel Moore's popuiarirteturning to his native country. his habitual consideratiouY ain°ng his brother officers, and him, will secure to hie towards all around and under knew him. memory the es t eem o f a ll who IRELAND. DUBLIN, MONDAY MORNIIG.—There is no news of any kind but the gloomy intelligence regarding the effects of the heavy rains upon the crops of all kinds. After a compara tively fine day yesterday, the weather again became broken last night, and there has since been a deluge of rain. It is impossible to contemplate the prospects of the next twelve months without the most serious apprehension, if the rain should continue many more days. In the neighbourhood of Dublin many fields of wheat and oats have been reaped ; but in the country generally the harvest has not yet commenced. In various places oats are yet green. The continued rain will not only delay the ripen ing of the grain, but expose it to the danger of sprouting an a rust. The reports from the country are most ditheirtening. The Wexford Independent says : " Whilst we write the cataracts of heaven seem to have been opened on us as a scourge for our transgressions. The rain pours down in torrents, and very little hope now re mains for the poor man's staff of life—the potato. In the low lands they are melting away, and even in the more favoured soils the disease is being carried down from the stalk to the tuber with increased celerity, by reason of the uninterrupted humidity of the atmosphere for the last three weeks." The floods are destructive in some parts of the western province. The Ballinasloe Star says:— " During the past week the rains have been incessant, a-10 the result is, that the callows are overflowing—from the room in which we write you can see the inundations like a vast lake—the meadows are nearly all covered, in some parts the waters are at least two feet over the lands. This is, of course, occasioned by the obstructions on the river, by the illegal stoppage of the waters." The Roscommon Journal says " We have had another week of incessant rain, which is calculated to do very serious injury to the crops. The people are so much alarmed about the potatoes that they are dig ging them out of the soil and disposing of them at very• reduced prices. The wheat will be au average crop, but the oats and barley look beautiful, and promise to be abun dant." We mentioned last week that the Special Commission for the trial of Mr. Smith O'Brien and the other persons impli cated in the insurrectionary movement in Tipperary would take place at Nenagh, the assize town of the north riding of that county. The Freeman's Journal of this morning says:— " We have reason to believe that a special commission for the trial of the persons now in custody, charged with of fences of a political character, and connected with late events in the south, will be immediately issued, and that its sittings will probably be held at Nenagh, commencing early in September." Regarding the condition of trade, the Freeman's Journal says : We are still unable to communicate the appearance of the slightest gleam of improvement. Trade remains in the same deplorable prostrate condition, and the greatest alarm and apprehension increase as the fears of the crops daily become converted into the certainty of an extensive defi ciency. The consumption of almost every . article is on the decrease, notwithstanding the moderate prices which rule." ANOTHER ARREST. At a late hour last night, a young gentleman named Mathews, son of W. P. Mathews, Esq., Secretary to the Board of Charitable Bequests, was arrested in the south suburbs of this city, on a warrant under the Suspension of the Habeas Corpus Act. This morning the prisoner was committed to Newgate. THE POTATO CROP IN IRELAND. BAGENALSTOWN, AUGUST. 18.—Great fears are enter tained as to the wheat already cut, if the weather does not at once clear up. As to the late-sown potatoes, no one here entertains the slight hope of even a moiety being saved, the blight having appeared in every field. LIMBRICK.—It is useless to conceal the fact that much of the crops, if not at present irretrievably ruined, have been so damaged that it will be impossible they can be turned to any account. We may say of the potato crop it is the same as wholly gone, the late crop especially.—Limerick Reporter. KILKENNT.—Accounts from various parts of the county represent the disease in the potato crop as spreading. The wheat crop has been much injured by the heavy rains.— Kilkenny Journal. CARLOW.—The late heavy rains have been attended with serious injury to the potato crop. Of the early crop, which was never so abundant, or of finer quality, we find a propor tion tainted, but not to such an extent as to excite fear of a general failure—provided the weather prove favourable— and efforts made to prevent the spread of the disease to the sound tubers, by the removal of the diseased stalks, and by covering the drills with fresh earth, which, as a general rule, we believe to be the most advantageous.—Car/ow Sentinel. BALLINA.—The potatoes, we fear, are seriously affected by the blight. Every field about this town exhibits evident marks of being diseased. Perhaps, however, the disease may not turn out as destructive as that of '46. We have been told by a gentleman, who resides within a mile and a halt of town, that his potatoes became infected on the 4th inst.. and that the attack went on increasing until the 7th, when it stopped, and they are beginning to look well again. He also stated that all the potatoes in his neighbourhood were similarly circumstanced. In Erris the potatoes are in a most alarming state. Almost every field is blackening, and diseased tubers are now found numerously every day.— Town Herald. lilsrEn —We have travelled this week throughout the counties of Antrim, Down, Louth, Armagh, and Monaghan, and we did not see a single field where blight was not—an universal destruction seems to be sent upon the land. The wheat crop will not be near an average, the head is short, and the grain light —Monaghan Standard. LONDONDERRY.—Oats, wheat, and barley are ripening re markably fast; and, from every appearance, the sickle will be in active employment within less than a fortnight. With regard to the potatoes, it is now an undoubted fact, that the blight has fallen generally upon them, scarcely a field is to be seen without having the tops more or less blackened—the tubers, however, of the early kinds continue, fo gi r the most part, sound, but serious fears are entertained respecting those of a late growth. Our market, during the week, was largely supplied with excellent potatoes, notwithstanding the blight. The current price on Thursday was from 3d. to 3id. per stone.—Londonderry Standard. SHUCKING BARB A RITY. A correspondent at Miltown, Malbay, writes as follows to the Limerick Examiner : "A horrible case of death, arising from utter destitution, happened on Thursday last, in the parish of Mullagh, county Clare. A poor man, who was cut off the relief list, having no means of support, went into a potato garden at Moyglass. The son of the owner set a large dog at the poor man, which (horrible to relate) knocked him down, tore him open, and actually devoured a part of his entrails. The inhuman wretch who set on the dog looked carelessly on. I hope that he will receive the reward be deserves for such an act. A party of police from Miltown, Malby, were out hunting for him on Wednesday last, but returned without him." NAVAL INTELLIGENCE. to hepaid ofF. for Sheerness, PORTS KOUTY, oxn.s.T.—The Thunder sailed last even ing The Sharpshooter, iron , Lieutenant-Commander Bayley, is ordered to Woolwich, and will ' • sail as soon as the weather moderates. Heavy gales have been blowing on this coast all morning, since daylight. All fares afloat are doubled, and s o viol ent are the gale and the s ea that the ordinar y packets can touch at the Victoria pi e r . All the shi p s have struck their nt topgallantmasts, &c. The Duke of lilariborough's schooner yacht, Wyvern, 200 tons, has put in dismasted, off the Knab, and another yacht since. Rear-Admiral Sir Charles Napier, K.C.8., arrived at Cork from Kingstown, in the Stromboli steam. sloop, Com mander the Right Hon. Lord Amelius Beauclerk, on the 17th, and transferred his flag on the following morning from that vessel to the St. Vincent, 120, Captain Dacres, when the squadron, which had been under the temporary order of Rear-Admiral the Hon. D. H. Mackay, changed their en signs from red to white. The Lucifer steam-sloop, Lieutenant Lloyd, arrived at Cork from Kingstown on the 17th. Sir Charles Napier's squadron are under orders to leave Cork in a day or two to cruise off Cape Clear. ROYAL MAIL:INKS. Captain and Brevet-Major John Harvey Stevens, of the Artillery Companies of the corps, is promoted to be Lieut.- Colonel, and appointed to those companies. Captain and Brevet-Major John Buckley Castieau, of the Artillery Companies of the corps, to be supernumerary in those companies, and appointed Director of the Laboratory, vice Stevens, promoted. DREADFUL HURRICANE ON THE EAST COAST OF SCOTLAND. ABERDEEN, SATURDAY EVENING. - Last night about 1,000 boats, each manned by five fishermen, left the various ports of the coast of Scotland, betwixt Stonehaven and Fraserburgh, for the herring fishery. When at the offing, at about an average distance of 10 miles, and the nets down, the wind, which had continued during the day at south and south-west, suddenly chopped out to the south-east with rain. About 12 o'clock it blew a gale, the rain falling in torrents, and the night was so dark that none of the land lights could be seen. As soon as the gale came some of the fishermen began to haul their nets, but the sea ran so high that most of the fleet had to run for the shore to save life. At Fraserburgh, the boats being to leeward of Kinnaird's head, which forms the entrance to the Murray-frith, were less exposed than the boats to the southward, and managed to get a landing without loss of life ; but at Peterhead, which is the eastermost point of the coast, and altogether exposed to an easterly gale, 70 out of the 400 boats that were fishing there are missing, and there is too much reason to fear that most if not all of them are wrecked or sunk. At daybreak this morning the scene that presented itself along the shore between the Buchanness lighthouse and the entrance to the south harbour, was of the most appalling description. The whole coast for a mile and a half was strewed with wrecks and the dead bodies of fishermen. Twenty-three corpses were carried into Peterhead before nine o'clock, and at the time the latest accounts left others were being constantly thrown ashore among the wreck on the sands or the rocks. Forty beats were wrecked within the circuit of half a mile, and so sudden and awful was the catastrophe that no means of succouring or saving the distressed and perishirg fishermen could be devised. How many boats may have foundered at sea or gone to pieces among the precipitous cliffs of Buchan no one at present can tell. One thing appears certain, that the lowest estimate of the loss of life and property by this gale exceeds that produced by any other hurricane hitherto recorded in the annals of the east coast of Scotland. It is calculated that along the coast not fewer than 100 lives are lost, and when it is consi dered that for the most part the deceased fishermen have left wives and families, it will be felt that the widowhood and orphanage of our seaport towns have received in one short night an unparalleled augmentation. n recording these melancholy facts the inquiry presents itself, " How does it happen that the boats engaged in the fisheries on the east coast of Scotland are constantly exposed to such terrible calamities, while the boats engaged on the east coast of England generally weather the storm?" The answer is simply this—the boats on the English coast are decked, while those on the Scotch coast are open. The former are in every respect fitted out for the deep sea fishery, and admirably adapted to withstand a gale ; the latter, although mantled by hardy and most adventurous fishermen, are adapted only fJr fair weather, constructed solely with the view of prosecuting one object—the herring fishery ; and while this system prevails here such terrible calamities as those we have just recorded may be expected to recur. HER MAJESTY'S ANNUAL MARINE EXCURSION.— On Wednesday last we noticed the revival of a report which had reached us to the effect that the annual marine excur sion of her Majesty and Prince Albert would extend to Scot land. We have now reason to believe that the report is cor rect, and that the Queen will embark in the Royal yacht Victoria and Albert, either the last day of the present or the first of the next month, and will proceed to Dundee en route to the newly-acquired. Royal Highland domain. It is not expected that her Majesty will return to Osborne after the prorogation of Parliament, but that the royal yacht will come to Woolwich, and will embark the Queen, the Prince, aad Royal Family at that port..—Herald. THE VANCOUVER JOB. (From the Chronicle.) Notwithstanding the promised modifications in the ,-,rant to the Hudson's Bay Company, we fear we must regard it as a fixed thing that there is to be no British colony in Van conver's Island. For eleven years certain, and for so long afterwards as we may find it inconvenient to discharge a bill of costs that is run up against us in the meanwhile by an ' irresponsible corporation, this Britain of the North Pacific, with its harbours, its coal-fields, its timber, its fertile soil, and its genial climate, is to remain hermetically sealed against colonizing enterprise. Two years ago we were ready to go to war for our Vancouver's Island ; and now when the time appears to have almost arrived for our doing something really useful with it—when its mineral treasures, in • parti cular, offer the most natural source of supply to the new steam navigation between Panama and the Columbia River —our rulers tell us they can think of nothing better than to cede it, in fee simple, to a sort of corporate Nim rod, whose only known qualifications for the boon are, a ve hement antipathy to colonies and colonization, a very in different general repute, and a pending Government inquiry with respect to certain grave specific accusations. Apart from those special circumstancPs in the present position of the Ilud son's Bay Company which give this transaction a peculiar character of shameless precipitancy. we cannot but pro nounce it one of the most unwarrantable proceedings which even the Colonial Office has been guilty of within our recol lection. We can most unaffectedly say, that we impute no unworthy motive in the matter to Earl Grey: for it passes our ingenuity to imagine any motive, good or bad, which can have prompted his Lordship to take this extraordinary freedom with public property: and certainly, the distress ingly feeble apologetic attempts of Mr. Hawes and Mr. Charles Buller, on Friday night last, do not afford us a par ticle of real explanation. We only look at the fact; and we say, without reserve, that the Colonial Secretary, by this monstrous cession, has put a noble island under lock and key, and effectually interdicted Englishmen from colonizing an English territory. There will never be a colony, worth call ing a colony, in Vancouver's Island, so long as the Hudson's Bay Company have the ownership of it. After Mr. Glad stone's powerful and crushing exposure of the character and history of these fur-trading monopolists, we defy the most sanguine of human beings to believe in the possibility of the island ever being colonized while they are the lords of its soil. Of course they will take care, between now and this day five years, to found some sort of factory or settlement, which shall be just enough to save their grant from for feiture. There will be no difficulty in getting together a little squad of company's servants, or retired servants, company's creatures, company's debtors, company's grantees and lessees, buying everything at the company s prices, holding everything on the company's terms, and liable to in stant loss of everything for breach of covenant; and with a free constitution, and an " extended suffrage," the whole thing will be as respectable-looking a sham as ever made a show on paper. But there will be no British colony. The youngest man alive will never live to see that grow up under the shadow of a gigantic and tyrannous monopolist corpora tion. Trading companies have never colonized well—this company will never colonize at all. A fur-trading corpora tion, simply because it is a fur-trading corporation is intrinsically anti-colonizing, in all its interests and ideas. A desert territory, inhabited only by scattered tribes of nomadic and unreclaimed barbarians, with just enough of civilization to be capable of feeling those wants which prompt men to encounter toil and hardship for the sake of luxuries and stimulants—such is the beau ideal of a fur country. Precisely in proportion as a land be• comes peopled, and cultivated, and civilized, does it become unfit for the fur-trader's uses. Spinning ennies and feudalism, railways and Colonel Sib thorp, high farming andgaine-preserving (which last, by the way, is exactly what our Hudson's Bay Company live by) are not more irreconcilably antagonistical than coloniza tion and fur-trading. The history of the Hudson's Bay Com• pany completely bears us out in this. It is just what one might expect would be the history of an association deriving immense profits from a well-protected traffic in the skins of wild animals. During the century and a half, or there abouts, that these traders have held a virtually uncontrolled sway over a territory as large as the whole of Europe, they have never founded a colony. The only seeming exception is the Red River settlement, with its population of five thou sand—English, Indians, and half-breeds. Strictly speaking, however, the Red River settlement was not founded by the company at all, but ty an enterprising nobleman (Lord Sel kirk) who had bought an over-ruling proprietary influence in the company, at a time when its stock was at an un usually low price, and who had, consequently, a dominating voice in its councils. It was founded in direct opposi tion to the protest of all the independent shareholders, who memorialized the Government of the day (in 1811) to the effect that " it has been found that colonization is at all times unfavourable to the interests of the fur trade." This Red River settlement has, in fact, ever been an object of the Company's jealousy and dislike; and, at this moment, there are gentlemen in England, entrusted by the settlers with a petition to the Queen, signed by about a thousand names—nearly the whole adult population of the place—in which the Company are accused of gross and systematic op pression —fiscal, commercial, and judicial. Why, the very tenure on which these unhappy Red River settlers hold their lands—every grant including, as it does, a covenant to sub mit, under pain of forfeiture, to all the exclusive trading pri vileges of the Company, and to all its rules, regulations, and taxes, both in ease and in posse—is enough to show us what sort of colonies and colonization may be looked for from Lord Grey's new friends. There is really no need, however, of arguing the question of the colonizing dispositions and purposes of the new proprietors of Vancouver's Island. It is quite sufficient to hear Mr. Hawes and Mr. Charles Buller. These gentlemen inform us, as plainly as men can speak, that it is a mere make-believe co lony that the company are now expected to found. Mr. Buller, in particular, is, we observe, entirely of our opinion on this point. We said, a month ago, that the intended grant was equivalent to " condemning the island to remain unpeopled for the next century ;" and we gather from the explanation given by the enlightened and eloquent advocate of " systematic colonization," that this is precisely what the Government contemplate. It is a " great error," we are told, to "consider Vancouver's Island a noble field for colo nization ;" and, for his own part, Mr. Buller "does not wish to see such an experiment as the settlement of a large body of Englishmen in that island." He cannot even imagine " what a great colony could do there ;" and in his judgment people will do well to " consider whether they must not make up their minds that Vancouver's Island will remain with comparatively few inhabitants for the next fifty years." A few minutes afterwards, we find the " fifty years" grown into "fifty or a hundred years"— which was exactly our computation. We need not point out to the sagacious reader that all this is simply telling the company before hand to take it easily, since next to nothing is either expected or desired from them. Could there possibly buting parties ti preventes be a pleasanter mutual understanding between two contract i ? T othersh The company rra.eoposramehprt ,ee w smev:o a vewl n incol tloeu, Perfectlyodtzthink not i colonizing ingnn t kogo o wif ttoceitifi to well," is i n hrod i izo expectingsm e wtt ohto t nhe h r:yee e , of, ms rffiel e a toce: n r sea d a, rx eply; av bent pudl s,yeai o nn; inns, fact, at makingnhce ot i r s , rtf t eoh h are a soo t puns ur t a rl h boi p e t wl 0 3 te sl nepe scarcely e commenting r egr on e t that N i v n e de h c a e v n e left thast e e ur w se i l t ses but h , whi lit cht t h l i e s s b p u a s c i e for s has been huddled up, at a moment when charges of the most serious character --charges which the Government pro fess to deem deserving of deliberate investigation —are pending against the favoured company. Mr. Hawes's tone on this subject cannot but be most offensive to honest and right-minded men. Rarely, we may add, has the commonsense of the public been insulted by such a hodge-podge of contra dictions as that amid which the Hon. Gentleman went floun dering on, when he came to this disgraceful topic. He tells us, almost in one and the same breath, that " he is of opinion that the defence already made on behalf of th e com p an y is a satisfactory one," and that " nevertheless he i s willin g to ad mit that it is desirable the whole matter should be carefully character" ettirvinquiredaeedteerivn, even in o ' h et yh T e h i nm e c c lou h s es dt a e r o g on feaav:el arenearly r aebvnl every r t 3l , g a hi s mt i , t aog a ti p na p a e vb a el r te s y him,tfoorm serious o f extortionate subject a r an c d o reckless d yet indifference they t o quite the call for well being of a "serious attention," and oe i a mn i ti— i n n e q teh u la i r t y lv '' e Governor ow n w e b e i e n a g o n t o h t e a n c d c e u s r s e t d o n c d o tmh e - u "perfectly t Governorl y impartial of inquiry. the ne , will, the Honourable Gentleman c onceives, be best conducted b " ; Such " s i o e m t w t p i n e a m r o t d ntentioned man p ß a iv n e y r 's state of mind which allows an able and well.i to sophisticate and boggle in this style. Altogether, this is a deeply-painful subject. One of the very few opportunities— perhaps, literally, the last opportunity—which, in the nature of things, England can now have of founding a colony tho roughly worthy of herself, is about to be worse than frit tered away. " Here is a small beginning," as Mr. Gladstone impressively suggests, "which may lead to great results ;" and the Government have determined that it shall be a bad beginning. Once let that anti-colonizing, anti-commercial, and most un-English corporation lay its hands on Vancou ver's Island, and the colony is spoiled for colonizing pur poses. The colony will take a wrong set in its infancy, an d will never grow straight again in our time. THE AUTHOR OF THE RAILWAY SYSTEM (?) TO THE EDITOR ON THE SUN. Stu,—Your Exeter correspondent, in a somewat perem p . tory tone, claims for Thomas Gray the title of h " Author of the Railway System," which I, in a work published two years ago, applied to George Stephenson. The death of the distinguished subject of my eulogium no doubt induced you to quote the passage in which I attempted to do justice to the first of our Railway Engineers. That I have done no more than justice to George Stephenson, I shall have no diffi culty in proving. The merits of Thomas Gray are undoubtedly great. It 18 much to be regretted, for the credit of the nation, that they have not been acknowledged in a suitable manner, either by Government or the wealthier members of the railway public. Thomas Gray was the author of a great idea, but George Stephenson was not only the author of a great idea, but he turned that idea into a great fact. He planned and constructed the Stockton and Darlington, the first public railway. the Act for which was obtained in 1821. He planned and constructed the Liverpool and Manchester, which came from his hands a perfect work—up to the present hour it remains a pattern railway. lie applied mechanical powers of the very first order to the locomotive engine, and taking it up where Trevethic left it, turned what had previously been scarcely more than an ingenious experi ment into a practically useful machine, more economical than horse power. He did more, while constructing the. Liverpool and Manchester Railway—he founded the modern school of railway engineers. Almost all the most remarkable railway works in the world have been constructed by his pupils. These facts are matters of history, well known to all acquainted with the progress of our railway system. With such facts before my eyes, I think the great body of your readers will admit that,so tar from exaggerating,l simply did justice in terming George Stephenson the author of our rail. way system.—l am, &c. Westminster, Aug. 22, 1848. S. SIDNEY. THE WEATHER.—LIYEEPOOL, MONDAY, HALF" PAST FOUR P.M.—Early this morning a gale commenced blowing from the south-east., accompanied with heavy showers of rain. Towards noon it shifted round to the north-west, and has gradually increased to a hurricane. We are happy to state that as yet we have no disasters to record, the landing stage, to which large iron bridges have lately been added, although presenting an immense surface to the wind, outstanding the hurricane nobly. PRAYERS FOR FINE WEATHER.—It was publicly notified from the pulpits of the various Roman Catholic churches and chapels in the metropolitan district, on Sunday morning, that it was the desire of the bishop that each mem ber of the community should offer his individual prayers for more favourable weather for the harvest than has hitherto been experienced during the present season. STORM IN THE NORTH.—On Friday night, and till four o'clock on Saturday morning last, the counties of Cumberland and Westmoreland, especially the latter, were visited by a tremendous storm of wind and rain, which has done a great deal of dam age. Numbers of large forest trees were torn up by the roots; the stooks of corn in the harvest fields were scattered far and wide, and considerably damaged ; and hundreds of bushels of apples and other fruit, which are not ripe, were scattered from the trees, many of which were blown down, while ethers were much shattered. All the rivers were much swollen. THE SUN, LONDON', TUESDAY EVENING, Y AUGATST 22, •. 1843. PARLIAMENTARY DIVISIONS. (From the Votes and Proceedings of the House of Commons. ) MONDAY, AUG. 21. SUPPLY.—(IN THE COMMITTEE.) Motion made, and Question proposed, "That a sum, not exceeding 9,8271., be granted to her Majesty, to defray the charge of the Government of Labuan, to the 31st day of March, 1849 :"—Afterwards Motion made, and Question put, " That a sum, not exceeding 3,000/., be granted to her Majesty, to defray the charge of the Government of Labuan, to the 31st day of March, 1849." The Committee divided : MINORITY—AYES, 12. . Kershaw, James 'Urquhart, David Lushington, C. Williams, Johu Osborne, Ralph TELLERS. Salwey, Colonel Hume, Joseph Thompson, Colonel Thompson, George Buxton, Sir E. Fox, \V. J. Greene, John Gwyn. Howel Hardcastle, J. A. MAJORITY-NOES, 56. Mali - , R. Shafto Hawes, B. Romilly, Sir John Armstrong, Sir A. Hay, Lord John Russell, Lord J. Arundel, Earl of Ilayter, W. G. Scrope, G. P. Bellew, It. M. Hobbouse, Sir John Shell, It. L. Berkeley, Captain Hobhouse, T. B. Shelburne, Earl of Itoyle, Colonel Howard, P. 11. Smith, J. A. , Burrell, Sir C. Jervis, Sir' John Somerville, Sir W. Callaghan, D. Keogh, William Tenison, E. K. Campbell, W. F. Labouchere, Henry Thornely, Thomas Clements, Charlet; Lascelles, W. S. Vyse, R. H. R. H. Cowper, W. F. Lewis, G. C. Waddington, 11. S. Cubitt, William Lygon, General Wald], Sir J. Divett, Edward Mackinnon, W.A.' Watkins, Colonel Duncan, George M•Gregor, John Wilson, James Dundas, Admiral Morpeth, Viscount Wilson, Matthew Dunne, F. P. Norreys, Sir D. Wood, sir Charles Elliot, J. E. Palmerston, viscount Ferguson, Sir R. l'arker, John Foley, John H. Power, Dr. Grey, Sir G. Rich, Henry TELLERS. Tuthell, henry Craig, W. G. SUPPLY. Order for Committee read ; Motion made, and Question proposed, " That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair." Amendment proposed, to leave out from the word " That" to the end of the Question, in order to add the words " an humble Address be presented to her Majesty, praying that she will be graciously pleased to direct that such a modifi cation of the System of National Education in Ireland may be made, as may remove the conscientious objections which a very large proportion of the Clergy and Laity of the Es tablished Church entertain to that system as at present carried into operation ; or otherwise, that means may be taken to enable those of the Clergy and Laity of tbe Estab lished Church who entertain such conscientious objections, to extend the blessings of Scriptural Education in Ireland," instead thereof:—Question put, " That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question." The House divided : MAJORITY-AYES, 118. MINORITY-NOES, 15. Burrell, Sir C. Jones, Captain Verner, Sir W. Dick. Quiutin Mußings, J. IL Waddington, H. S. Grogan, E. Newdegate, C. N. Walsh, Sir J. B. Gwyn, Howe! O'hrien , Sir Lucius TELLERS. Henley, J. W. Seymour, Sir H. Hamilton, G. A. Hood, Sir A. Spooner, Richard Napier, Joseph THE REVOLT IN MOULTAN. Since the publication of our Indian news yesterday we have received intelligence from India of a few hours' later date of the most gratifying character. Some short time back we published an account of the suc cess obtained by Lieutenant Edwardes over the forces of the rebel Molraj. We are now enabled to state that what was before a success is now a triumph. Lieutenant Edwardes succeeded in crossing the Indus and Chenab, and effecting a junction with the forces of the Raja of Bhawulpoor. On the 18th of June the united forces came into collision with the army of Molraj. They awaited his attack, and sustained a sanguinary conflict of nine hours' duration. The rebel army were completely defeated, and driven from the field with the loss of nearly all their artillery, six out of their ten guns re maining in the power of the British. The cause of Molraj is completely lost. Various conjec tures were afloat at the time of the departure of the courier as to the course he would pursue. The utmost he could expect was to regain his fort in safety, but there is a more probable and a more Oriental terminationto such a career—either that the rebel chief will destroy himself or be put to death by his own people. The intelligence comes to us on good authority. If it be true, 83 we suppose, Lieutenant Edwardes will have earned for himself no mean place in Indian history.—Times. COURT CIRCULAR. OSBORNE, MONDAY. The very unfavourable state of the weather this morning prevented her Majesty and his Royal Highness, or any of the Royal Family, from taking out-ot . -door exercise. His Serene Highness the Prince of Hohenlohe Langen bourg, and Prince Victor Hobenlohe, took leave of her Ma jesty and the Prince, and left Osborne this morning. His Serene Highness returns immediately to Germany. The Princess of Hohenlohe Langenbourg, and the Prin cesses Eliza, Adelaide, and Feodora, remain at Osborne, Captain Huish, of the London and North-Western way Company, had an interview with the Commissioners of Railways yesterday, at their office in the Board of Trade. M. de Beaumont, the French Minister, Viscount and Viscountess Palmerston, and the Earl of Minto, dined with Lord and Lady John Russell on Saturday, at their residence, Pembroke Lodge, Richmond Park. Mr. Tidd Pratt and Mr. James Higham had an interview, yesterday, with the Chancellor of the Exchequer, at his offieial residence in Downing-street. Dispatches were received yesterday at the Colonial-office from the Governor of Canada, and also from the Governors of the other North American Colonies. Rail TATTE RSALL'S-MONDAY. 113011 HANDICAP. 5 to 2 agst Mr. J. Murphy's Dough—taken and after wards offered 6 to 1 agst Captain Harcourt's Ellerdale—taken freely 7 to 1 agst Mr. S. L. Fox's Meaux 8 to 1 agst Mr. Shelley's Remembrance—taken 10 to 1 agst Mr. Jaques's Sir Martin—taken Dough and Ellerdale were the only horses in serious de mand, and the outlay on them was very moderate. Meaux was backed for a few small sums, but looked particularly " un healthy." Maid of my Soul hod no -friends. Sir Martin is now in C. Peck's stable. CHESTERFIELD HANDICAP (YORK). 6 to 4 agst Mr. Crawfurd's The Cur GREAT YORKSHIRE STAKES (YORK). 6 to 4 on Mr. Bowes's Springy Jack—taken 4 to 1 agst his winning this and the St. Leger PRINCE OF WALES'S STAKES (YORK). 3 to 1 agst Mr. Payne's Farthingale—taken 5 to 1 agst Lord Zetland's Ellen Middleton—taken ST. LIGEIL. 5 to 2 agst Mr. Bowes's Springy Jack—taken and after wards offered 7 to 2 agst Mr. B. Green's Flatcatcher—take 4 to 1 4 to 1 agst Duke of Bedford's Justice to Ireland—takes 11 to 2 agst Lord Clifden's Surplice—taken 20 to 1 agst Mr. B. Green's Beverlac—taken and after wards offered 25 to 1 agst Lord Stanley's Canezou—taken and after wards offered 35 to 1 agst Mr. Pedley's Besborough—taken and after wards offered 1,000 to 300, 7 to 2 to 501., and 4 to 1 to several ponies, laid agst Justice to Ireland, and 400 to 100 agst Flatcatcher. Offers to take 6to 1 about Surplice. The Canezou, Beverlac, and Besborough bets were to a pony each. The odds were afterwards offered. __ No Derby betting. o AQUATICS. This annual match WHARF came fi y sove reigns subscribed by the i n h a bi tants o f C a stle Baynard, Queenhithe, and their vicinitie s . O w i n g to the very •est ß es E d G ay A f T o T r purse of A t: inaus picious state of the weather, the attendance was nothing to equal that of former occasions, and the rowing, which was very spirited, was rendered severe work. First Heat. G. Careless and J. Clarke (Light Blue) 1 R. Holloway and G. Ferguson (Dark Blue) 2 W. Norman and Edward Armstrong ... (Pink) 0 The course was from Queenhithe up to the Temple and back, twice round, finishing at Paul's Wharf. A good start was succeeded by the winnera taking the lead and keep ing it. Second Heat. T. Sheen and B. Coxlade (Green) 1 (Red) 2 J. Bartlett and J. Bradcock ••• Q. Wheeler and W. Bond .. h . (Yellow) 0 and a half the Distance as before. Won by a lengt , winners going away with a slight lead s hortly after the start. Grand Heat. T. Sheen and B. Coxlade ... „.. •" (Green) 1 J. Bartlett and J. Bradcock ... ... —• (Red) 2 G. Careless and J. Clarke ... (Light Blue) 0 R. Holloway and G. Ferguson.... ... (Dark Blue) 0 It was a very spirited race. They all went off well, im mediately after which red took the lead, closely waited upon by green ; the latter then challenged red, and, after some sharp rowing, passed them. ROWING MATCH BETWEEN GOATIX AND COOMBES AND MILLS AND ROYAL Several hundred persons assembled yesterday on Tham es - 1 bank to witness a portion of the race between Goatl y , a i f a mous oarsman of bygone year s, who s now vergin on fifty years of age, and . James Coombes, the brother of the champion, and Mills a nd Ro y al, of Thames- bank , for 10/ aside. The race eman ated from the contest this vee r a t th e . o r f et r s vearneid St. J o h n ' s, West minster, which was w on b y. Goatl y g ns, subscribed by th e and his partner, r H es o i rs de e n fe t r s ry o f f or s a t. p m ur a se rga and the challenge of their opponents was imme diately ac,cepted. The weather was extremely boisterous, and the water particularly rough in the course they had selected—from Vauxhall Bridge up round a boat off Mr. Lenten's, the Old Swan, Battersea, a nd back—s o roug h ' indeed, that although the boats i n which they rowe d were covered in it was f eare d by the greater part of the specta tors that they would be unable to keep th em afloat. They started at six o'clock , both gett ing away and well to work at the sam e moment, and continued scull a n d scu ll u p t o Ranelagh House, where, in order to avoid a barge in their course, Goatly and :his partner went outside and began to make the shoot over to the Red House . Th e i r a d versar i es who bad continued on i! I their straight course, kept near the Middlesex shore, until off Royal'. i, the Thames-bank Pier, before they crossed. At the Red House, Mills and his partner were three or four lengths ahead, and continued in advance until their arrival off Cremorne Gardens, when the win a 1 blew in such terrible gusts that their boat was unable to live in the rough water and went down, the men sus taining no other harm than a duckin g , and being imme diately taken into a c utter. Goatly and Coombes rowed the remainder of the distance, to claim at their leisure. [ADVERTISEMENT.. -4k Clergy man of the Catholic Church and Holloway's Oint ment a nd Pills. — A benevo lbeyn t h i pastor, ow n desire), residing was appliedinßelfast (who se name i s w i t hheld to by a poor woman of his parish who had been afflicted for tour years with an awfully bad leg with 16 wounds, and so extremely pain ful that she could not place her foot on the ground. Feeling for her poverty and sufferings, this humane gentleman presented her with a supply of Holloway's Ointment and Pills, which soundly healed her leg in about five weeks although she had been in the Dublin hospital for seven months, and had consulted several medical men in Ireland. Sold by all Druggists, and at Professor Holloway's Establishment, 244, Strand, London. MILLBANK PRlSON.—Yesterdav the Bill in the House of Commons for amending the Act regulating tke prison at Milbank (6 and 7 Vic., cap. 26), was printed. At present the management of the prison is under" inspectors," but " visitors " are now to be appointed ; and on the passing of the Act the functions of the inspectors to cease and de termine. . . THE INSURRECTION OF JUNE. Wi continue the publication of these interesting docu rnent:— DEPOSITION OF M. LEDRU-ROLLIN, MEMBER OF THE PROVISIONAL GOVERNMENT (JULY 5). The attempt of the 15th of May had several characters; I can only give general appreciations. I believe that the greater number of those who invaded the Assembly had for their only object to carry there a petition, and to read it at the bar. They wished to carry it out by force, and were pro bably ignorant of the decree of the evening before, which forbade them to do it. The police was badly conducted I must confess. At the moment of the invasion, I came to the rails with M. de Lamartine, and used all my efforts to prevent the crowd from entering. Some one came to in form me that a consilerable mass was proceeding to the other gate, by the Rue de Burgoyne, and that it was les defended than the one at which I was. I ran to that gate. I spoke to the insurgents, and ferced them to retire; but they entered by the foot of the ball. Blanqui and R spail had certainly a pre-determined intention of pene trating into the interior of the Assembly Barbee seemed to me to have been excited by degrees. He had been told that the• e were 300,000 men in the Manifestation ; that it was the people, the e , n•ereign people. Barbi , 4 never f•aw anything beyond. The people was his idol. Then came Blanqui, a man who was excessively dangerous, a man of whom I hate always said that lits heart contained gall and bile instead t•f b'ood. Iluber pronounced the dissolution. I think that lilanqui and lluber were agreed together for pronouncing the dissolution. As for me, I have been shamefully calumniated. I know .nothing of these projects. My con duct during the sitting is known by every one. I was be seeched to take the Presidency, but I refused. and my obsti nate resistance to the besettings of which I was the object, is well known. I descended into the court; I was there met and surrounded by men who wished to conduct me to the Hotel de:Ville. I declared, "filet they should not bring me there I even took out a pistol to shoot myself with, if they did not cease their violence towards me. When -the hall was closed, I got on horseback along with M. de Lamartine (I had not even my hat on). They wished to stop me, saying that there was fighting in that quarter of Paris. I should have felt it sweet to die for the Republic. I arrived. I took measures, and caused the arrest of the factious, who were deliberating very quietly. Caussidiere had given rue his word of honour, and I trusted in his loyalty. I have seen Sobrier twice. Sobrier was one day presented to me. I did not know him more than many other men of the same kind. I isolated myself. I belonged to no society, secret or public, having always had for my principle to conspire only in the face of the sun. Sobrier came to the Ministry, and complained of being watched by my orders. He said that they committed a great mistake in not having confidence in him ; that he had all possible respect for the Assembly, and that if needful he would assassinate Bla-4qui, whose intentions were hostile. The ateliers nationaux were the subject that caused the gravest pre-occupation to the Government. Towards the 20th of May it was resolved to close them. All the measures that human prudence commanded were taken for that purpose, but all the orders given were not strictly executed. It had been agreed, for example, not to admit any more into the ateliers. Two mayors of Paris, never theless, allowed themselves to inscribe new names, and their destitution was decreed. You know .that the delegates sent a deputation to the Executive Commission, and what reply was made to them by M. Marie ; it was then that we gave the order for arresting fifty-six delegates and Pujol. This order was not executed, and the Prefect of Police answered that he had not their address. As for the events of Jane 23, it has been said that the Executive Commission was wanting in foresight. I repel this reproach, and declare that all the measures of precaution had been taken. Our orders were formal, but they were not executed. Thus, we wished that the garrison of Paris, and of the Banneue, including the Garde Mobile, the reinstated Garde Republicaine. and gar diens de Paris, should be raised to 60,000 men. As difficnl- ties were made, this number was reduced, first to 56,000, than to 50,000, and at last to 45,000 men. General Cavaignac said that he could not disgarnish the rest of the country. Twenty thousand men were at last agreed on for Paris, and 5,000 for Versailles, St. Denis, &c., in all 25,000 effective men. ;Besides, Lamartine proposed to bring up 20,001 men from the army of the Alps, which was done. I recollect that the anxiety of M. Lamartine about the strength of the troops was such, that he frequently demanded how our orders in that regard had been executed ? There will be a question some day of knowing whether or not there were really 25,000 men in Paris in the month of June. As for me, I cannot be- lieve it. From all points of Paris there were complaints on the 23d of not having enough of troops. We differed es sentially on the means of defence to adopt on the 23d of June. There were two opposing systems. General Cavaignac required that the army should be under his direction ; that it should be massed together, and then directed against the points attacked. The Commission thought, on the contrary, that it was necessary to attack each barricade as soon as it should be raised, or even only commenced. It persisted for a long time in its opinion, and only yielded with regret in abandoning to General Cavaignac the conti nuation of the military operations, while it retired to the Presidency where it might co-operate with him. Towards hall past three o'clock General Cavaignac went out to see how things were going on ; he was to be absent but for one hour at most. He did not return till nearly nine o'clock at night, and I shall never be able to tell of the tortures I suffered dining his absence. All the mayors of Paris sent to me to demand reinforcements; they all complained of not seeing any troops; the National Guard cried out treason, and I was there alone—alone at the Presidency, in mortal and indecisive anxiety. Iu the absence of my colleagues, I took upon myself to write to the Prefects to demand all the forces, without distinction, which were in the neigh bourhood of Paris. I dispatched orders to Admiral Casy for him to demand troops immediately from 13rest and Cher bourg. At the return of General Cavaignac, I avow I showed great vivacity. From all I have said, I think I can conclude that there were not more than eight or ten thousand men engaged in Paris on the first day of the insurrec tion. It is at least certain that having asked General Cavaignac, towards two o'clock in the morning, how many troops there were in Paris, he answered me that he did not know. My advice was to recommence the attack at daybreak, and to send two battalions to General Damesne. General Cavaignac was not of the same opinion. They com menced to skirmish about three o'clock in the morning. The accusations brought against us, in consequence of the absence of troops, were such, that an officer came to tell that the com mission was loudly accused of treason, and that they must be shot. Events seemed to me so serious, that I was obliged to think of employing cannon. I ordered guns to be brought from Vincennes. The cavalry left at eleven o'clock to get them. Ilv what fatality was it that they did not return till next morning near ten o'clock? In truth, it Is difficult to understand how eleven hours were necessary to go to Vin cennes and to return. Colonel Martinprey was charged with this expedition, and was to bring back with him two infantry regiments, which were at Vincennes. General Cavaignac said, "The honour of the army requires that I should persist in my system. If one only of my companies be disarmed, I shall shoot myself ; let the National Guard attack the barri cades ; if they are beaten, I would prefer to retire into the plain of Saint Denis, and there give battle to the emeute." Q. To what cause do you attribute the absence of the 20,000 men, on whose presence the Executive Commission thought they could count? A. I cannot say. I lived in the conviction that 20,000 men were in Paris. Q. Wh at i s your opinion on the situation of Paris, and on the attitude of that portion of the population which took part in the emeute ? A. I think that if prompt measures be not taken, the contest will recommence. It is necessary to revive credit, labour, and industry. This opinion I held in the Provisional Government, where I was in a minority. Garnier-Pages has been an obstacle. He thought it neces sary to administer the finances of the Republic as in ordi nary times. (M. Ledru-Rollin enters here into detailed dis quisition on the finances. He cites the measures taken by the French Republic from 1790 to 1791. He says that it was then necessary to create 1,700,000,000 of paper money. He recalls the recollection of the creation of the territorial mun dates, which amounted to no less than two milliards, 700,010,000. The necessities of this epoch, regard being had to the actual value of money, will require a measure of the same nature, and on a much greater scale. According to him, paper money is the only means of saving the finances of the country.) DEPOSITION OF GENERAL CAVAIGNAC, PRESI DENT OF THE COUNCIL (Jita' 11). General Cavaignac, President of the Council, declares, first of all, that he does not appear before the Commission to justify himself, even should that appear necessary in conse quence of certain depositions. He has, in truth, but little anxiety as far as he himself is concerned; but the dignity of his position would not allow him to accept of the debate on such a ground ; and far from defending himself, he should not hesitate to cover with his own responsibility those who acted under his orders. The President immediately observed that the impressions of the President of the Coma are in no manner biassed by the testimony already received. The wish of the Commission of Investigation is to receive from him such information as may enlighten it in its mission. • After this explanation, the President of the Council gave some explanations. The figures given by the Minister of War were correct. There were about 30,000 men in Paris, or the immediate neighbourhood. The s y stem of defence adopted by the General in the days of June, were based on the conviction that it would be dangerous to distribute the troops. The experience of July, 1830, and February, 1848, made him feel the necessity of not engaging the military in the streets, but to keep them tcgether in a body strong enough to enable tilt. to make the insurgents give way before them. The ' slightest check to an army is fatal in cases of this descrip tion; notwithstanding - the most formal orders, a battalion was placed at great risk on the Place des Vosges, in a com promising position, which incurred a severe reprimand from the Minister of War, notwithstanding the incontestible bra very of the commander and men of that battalion. A second example occurred, which might have been attended with the most serious consequences : above all things, to insure the safety of the honour of the flag is the sure guarantee of defi nitive success. The result of the events confirmed this opinion. On the day of the 23d, added General Cavaignac, Iwas only then Minister of lfrar, it W3S surely in my own option to court death if I thought fit; I proceeded in the direction of the Faubourg du Temple, which was menaced: General La moriciere accompanied me. On a question put specially by the President, General Cavaignac replied that the regiment of engineers from Arras was only sent for during the last days of the struggle, and that there was no resistance mane, no delay in the execution of the orders given. TESTIMONY OF GENERAL LAINIORICIERE (Jinx 11). I have nothing particular to tell you respecting the causes of the attentats. If the insurrection had succeeded, it would have been the loss of a battle of society (bataille sociale), and the triumph of the programme of the 15th of May. I have no doubt whatever that in the ateliers nationaus there was a culpable understanding with the insurrection. I am morally convinced of it. Moreover, at the barricades of St. Martin, I beheld some of the directors (centre maitres) of the ateliers nati•naux I saw permits of free passage, signed " LALANNE." Many individuals were arrested bearers of money and cartridges. I have requested General d'Artois to draw up a report of these facts. I shall send it to you. M. Flottard ordered two individuals of the Ecole Centrale to be set at liberty. They were bearers of money. I was afterwards informed that one of them changed his domicile secretly in the night. I was struck with the military skill which had been em ployed in the construction of the barricades; and I must say that, to suppress the insurrection, I was happy in finding the admirable devotion of the National Guard, the Guard Mobile, and the army. The assistance of the pompiers was of the greatest service to me. I may here mention an incident that occurred. A Lieutenant-Colonel of the National Guurd came to me, demanding assistance to suppress a conflagration which had burst out behind the barricades. I sent a body of pompiers, who put out the fire ; and as they returned the insurgents fired upon them, killing two, and wounding three. I have heard many regrets expressed, that there were not more troops in Paris. It must be remembered that too large a display of troops in Paris at that moment would have raised a universal cry against the Government, that it would have been accused of provoking the people. What made the struggle so long was, that measures were not resorted to on the very first day, as are usually adopted in a city taken by assault. From the moment that circum stances allowed it, and even rendered such steps necessary, the whole aspect of affairs was immediately changed. A great change, moreover, was visible when the reprcen tatives joined us. They kept up the moral courage in the ranks. Wa immediately regained the upper hand, and did not sustain much loss. We had abundance of ammunition. We fired about two million cartridges. I must explain why I complained of the want of mortars. I had batteries enough, but as each bat tery consists generally of two mortars and four guns, mortars were therefore expected, whilst each battery consisted of six guns without the mortars. It was Montpeasier who made this change, by suppressing the two mortars. General Cavaignac, not aware of this circumstance, could not account for my reiterated demands. STATE OF THE MANUFAC TURING DISTRICTS. ASUTON, MONDAT.--The authorities here have spent another anxious and harassing night. The military have been under arms, divisions of county police and special con stables have been held in readiness at the Town-hall, and armed patrol, both foot and mounted, have sceirred the bo rough and its environs from hour to hour. The nature of intelligence in the hands of the magistrates, It is said, will justify the same precautions and the same harassing vigils again to-night. It is said that on Saturday night, after all the precautions taken, and all the watching, the Chartists ur Confederates held a midnight meeting, but it was beyond the mere precincts of the towil. According to the information received of it, the meeting took place near Droylsden, about three miles from Ashton, and the same distance from Man chester. Shots were heard from time to time in various di rections again last night, and it is conjectured that these, and rockets which are occasionally thrown up, are used by the virties as signals. The policemen who were bound over to give evidence against M'Douall, the Chartist leader, and against the four men in custody as implicated in the outrage of Monday night, the 14th instant, have received summonses to appear this afternoon before the grand jury at Liverpool assizes, and their :removal to Liverpool for a few days will take away from the sympathisers with 111•Douall the temp tation to revenge, and their power to destroy the evidence, which was said to have been their incitement to the murder. At Manchester the Confederates continue to hold meet ings, and at several of them the men apprehended on Tues day night, and liberated on bail, addressed the audience. At a meeting in the Heyrod-street Institution, a building of their own, on Sunday night, one of those parties, an IriA man, named Donovan, repeated a story he had very hu morously told several nights before, about his apprehension, and the collision between the police and his wife, which, he assured his audience, was about the warmest engagement he bad ever entertained any idea they should witness in their struggle for the charter. The police, he said, told him they wanted his arms. His reply was that he had a wife and family, and his arms were necessary to earn bread for them. They en explained that it was the fire-arms they wanted. "Oh, the fire-arms," was his rejoinder, "if it was the tongs or poker they were after, they belonged to his wife's department of the household business," and sure enough the wife was not inclined to capitulate without making them rather hot to handle. He denied that either he or his associates were in any way implicated in or had any knowledge of what was going to take place at Ashton. They had not counselled physical force, nor been privy to its use. He did not deny that the parties to that affair were Chartists, and fools would always be found in any agitation. The Manchester authorities, however, had missed their way —there seemed to be a conspiracy amongst the magistrates and not amongst the Chartists, and it was a conspiracy against all the moral force men they could lay their hands upon. He assured his friends that so soon as Wednesday's examination before the magistrates was over, and they were set at liberty--as set at liberty they assuredly would be—not a moment's time would be lost in taking steps for an action against their prosecutors for false imprisonment.—Up to yes terday evening all was quiet in Manchester, nor was any dis turbance apprehended. COMMITTAL OF THE POLITICAL PRISONERS AT LIVERPOOL. —Yesterday Murphy and O'Brien, who had been remanded en charges of conspiracy, were brought up for re-examina tion. Against O'Brien further corroboratory evidence was adduced, and he was committed for ttial. The evidence against Murphy was strengthened by a person who lived opposite to him swearing that he saw him, through his bed room window, examining a number of pikes. This and the other evidence having been gone over, Murphy was also committed for trial. CHARTISTS AND REPEALERS. Last night several meetings of the Chartists and Confede rates took place in the metropolis, and the greatest precau tions were taken by the police to prevent a public disturb ance at any of the places of meeting. At the South London Chartist 'fall, a meeting took place at eight o'clock; but the speeches delivered were of a common-place character. At half-past ten the proceedings terminated, and the parties separated without coming into collision with the police. A meeting of Chartists and inhabitants of Clerkenwell and Islington, which was numerously attended, was held at the Literary Institution, Islington-green, for the purpose of promoting the extension of the principles of the Charter. Considerable alarm prevailed in the neighbourhood in consequence of the publicity given of the intended meeting. Upwards of a dozen policemen, in full uniform, were placed on duty in the room, and a strong force was in the streets, and also at the station-house, under the direction of Mr. Superintendent Johnson, of the N division. This was the first meeting where the police have made their appearance in full uniform; the object being, that in the event of any trea sonable language being used, the speaker should be imme diately taken into custody. Mr. Rictiattn MOORE was in the chair. He observed that it was in consequence et Louis Philippe's not having in time listened to the voice of the people for reform that he was not in possession of the French throne. They could net expect to gain the objects of the Charter by any violent means, and could only succeed in their objects by moral force.—(Hear.) The members of that society were very desirous of obtaining the Charter, but the only course they would recom:nend for success was, to act consistently with the laws and constitu tion of the country. Several other speakers addressed the meeting, but they nl seemed to admit that the progress of Chartism had been re• tarded by the recent attempts at phy►ical force. The aisetnblage subsequently separated peaceably. IRISH DISTRESS. The following letter from Sir George Grey has been receive , l by the Lord Primate of Ireland in acknowledg ment of the address of thanks for the relief afforded to the poor of Ireland during the late famine:— " Whitehall, August 9. "My Lord Archbishop,—l have had the honour to lay be fore the Queen the loyal and dutiful address transmitted by your Grace for presentation from the proprietors and occu piers of land and residents in Ireland, of every class in society and of all religious persuasions, expressive of their gratitude to her Majesty the Queen, to their fellow-subjects in England and in the dependencies of Great Britain, and also to the benevolent persons in foreign countries who contri buted to the munificent subscriptions which were raised for the relief of the distressed poor in Ireland during the late famine. And I am commanded to inform your Grace, that her Majesty has received with much gratification the ex pressions of grateful acknowledgment contained in this ad dress for the assistance rendered to the poor in Ireland at a time of peculiar suffering and distress. " I have the honour to be, my Lord Archbishop, your Grace's very obedient servant, " G. GREY." NORTHERN AND EASTERN RAILWAY.--The half yearly general meeting of this railway, for the purpose. of declaring a dividend, was held on Saturday in the board-room of the direction at the Bishopsgate•street Station. Richard Paterson, Esq., presided, and at his request the Secretary read the report, declaring the di vidend on the shares for the half-year ending the 301 h of Jnne last, to be as follows :—" On shares guaranteed 5 per cent. per annum: 501. paid, it. ss. each : 231. paid, I Is. 6d. each. On shares guaranteed 6 per cent. per an num : 50/. paid, 11. 10s. each: 231. paid, 16s. 6d. each ; and become payable on and after Saturday, the 2d of September, less property-tax. The dividend on thy quarter shares, payable on the 30th of November next, will be at its present guaranteed rate of 6 per cent. per annum, or 7s. 6d. per quarter share less property-tax. The directors take this opportunity of reminding the proprietors of new shares, that an instalment of 11/. per share becomes due on the 27th of September next, and as the money is required for the payment of debentures then falling due, they urge upon the proprietors the necessity of punctual payment. The two direc tors retiring from office by rotation are Ebenezer Fuller Maitland, Esq., and 11. Lewis Smale, Esq., and the board recommend these gentlemen for re-election." The Chairman : I have nothing to say in addition to the report now read, but to move that it be adopted and agreed to. Mr. Kennard seconded the motion, which was unanimously carried. The motion for the re-elec li tion as directors of Mr. E. E Maitland and Mr. H. L. Smale was agreed to. After some formal proceedings the meeting broke up. PLUNDERING MAGISTRATES AND POLICE-OFFICERS. —Yesterday information was received at the Head Police office, Scotland-yard, that some fellows were going about plundering the provincial magistracy and police authorities by representing themselves as police-officers in pursuit of a Chartist delinquent, or a detachment en route to bring deserters to head-quarters. On Saturday Mr. J. Jacombs of Coventry was duped of 21. 12s. 6d. by a fellow who said he was an inspector of police from Weedon, in pursuit of a prisoner, and who found himself suddenly without funds, and George Hussey Packe, Esq., justice of the peace for Lincoln, of 21., by three fellows who were dressed in the uniform of the Artillery, and pretended they were carrying on a prisoner, one actually haring his wrists in handcuffs to keep up the de ception. THE JUDGES.—ST. GEORGE'S CHURCH.—Yester day forenoon Mr. Justice Erie and Mr. Justice Cresswell, the Judges presiding over the assizes now being held in Liver pool, attended Divine service at St. George's Church. T. B. Horsfall, Esq., the Mayor, with several of the aldermen, coun cillors, and public functionaries of the borough, also attended in state, with the regalia of the corporation. The church was crowded in every part. Prayers having been read, a brief sermon was preached by the Rev. Mr. Ilesketb, the chaplain of the High Sheriff. The Rev. Gentleman took his text from the 39th Psalm, Ist Verse, "I will take heed unto my ways," on which he founded an artless and effective ex hortation to a religious life. The strength and efficiency of the choir was a general theme of comment and of admiration. —Liverpool Albion. SUICIDE OF A CALUMNIATED WIFE. —Yesterday an inquest was held at the Bear and Ragged Staff, Upper Ground-street, Blackfriars, before Mr. IV. Cuter, on the body of Sarah Burgess, aged 23, of No. 1, Hatfield-street, who committed suicide under very distressing circumstances. It appeared in evidence that the deceased was married about three years ago, and lived happily with her husband until a short time since, when a young man who had known her in the country Caine to London, and in the presence of her friends made certain reflections on her character. These were clearly proved to be false, and her husband told her not to care about what was said, for he did not believe a word o f it. After that, however, the deceased was nearly always in tears, and frequently t o ld her friends (soma of the witnesses) that she should never be happy again, that her peace of mind was ruined, and she should " do some harm to herself" On Friday night last, while her husband w as as l eep on a chair, she suddenly rushed to the window, opened it, and leaped out. She was picked up immediately, still breathing, but she died in a few minutes, her skull haying been frightfully fractured by the fall. The jury returned a verdict " That the deceased destroyed herself while in a state of Unsound mind caused by slanderous imputations." IMPORTATION OF ASPHALTE.--A from Philadelphia, Unit e d St a t es , has vessel arrived brought thirty casks of asphaltum as a portion of her cargo. W e have no. recol lection of a previous importation of asphaltum from that place, and believe it has not hi t h erto been an article of supply from the United States of America. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LOiLtiS, August 21. CORRUPT PRACTICES AT ELIA; BILL Lord REDESDALE expressed a hope that their Lord ships would not consent to proceed with a Bill of such importance during this session. It had only just come up from the Commons, and he hoped it would not be proceeded with. Lord BROUGHAM was most anxious that a search ing inquiry should be instituted into corrupt practices at elections; at the same time, he thought the Bill ought not to be hurried through. Earl GREY would consent to the postponement of the Bill if he were not of opinion that such postponement would lead to its total loss. _ _ The LORD CHANCELLOR proposed to take the second reading on Thursday. The Marquis of SALISBURY was opposed to pro ceeding with such a Bill at this lute period of the ses sion—a session, be it remembered, which had lastep since November. Lord REDESDALE moved that the 24th standing ordc:r against hurrying Bills through the flouw be tend. This was the only lidi, the postponement of which had been asked by the ()ppositiou, and he trusted the Government would give way. The stundint4 order having been read, Lord REDESDALE satd that he should c(rtainly move the postponement of the further consideration of he meastne. The LORD CHANCELLOR said that the standing order referred to was passed in 1668, and referred to a long Bill. This was the year 1848, and the Bill was a short one; therefore the standing order did not apply. Lord REDESDALE reiteraud his application to the Government to postpone the Bill. Lord BROUGHAM said the Commons alone had no right to disfranchise any borough by suspending its writ; it could only be disfranchised by King, Lords, and Com mons conjointly. The Duke of WELLINGTON thought their Lord ships would do right to be in the possession of the Bill. Its object was to form a new jurisdiction for the decision of these cases, and their Lordships would have to pro nounce on the measure without previous inquiry at their bar. He thought it was a subject of so much import ance that it ought not to be passed without due consi deration.—(Hear, hear.) Earl GREY said the practice of suspending writs was no novelty ; the Noble and Learned Lord (Lord Brougham) concurred in suspending the writ for East Retford for two years. Lord BROUGHAM did not object to the House of Commons exercising the power of suspending a writ in such a case as East Retford ; but he complained of such a practice becoming general. __ The second reading of the Bill was then postponed until Thursday. THE SLAVE TRADE. _ On the notice of motion by Lord DENMAN on this subject, The Bishop of :OXFORD said, as he could not be present to-morrow night, he begged to state that if the blockade of the coast of Africa wcts w ithdrawn, it would be a frightfully retrograde step, and he hoped, therefore, that the address of the Noble and Learned Lord would be adopted. TURNPIKE ACTS CONTINUANCE BILL. On the motion that the House should go into Commit tee on this Bill, The Earl of MOUNTCASIIEL complained of certain clauses being introduced into the Bill foreign to its de clared object. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE said the Bill was merely:a continuation of former Acts. The Bill then passed through Committee, and the House adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, August 21. VANCOUVER'S ISLAND. In reply to a question from Mr. HUME, Lord JOHN RUSSELL stated that it was the inten tion of the Government to propose that certain conditions should accompany the grant to the Hudson's Bay Company, with the view of promoting colonization. When all the papers on the subject were prepared, it was the intention of his Hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State for the Coloaies, to lay them before the Privy Council, when their charter would be taken into consi deration. Mr. GLADSTONE wished to know if any investiga tion was to be instituted into the charges that had been brought against the Hudson's Bay Company of having used illegal and despotic powers? Be had to express his strong conviction that, however restrictions on the company might tend to overcome positive evils and abuses now existing, yet they would not overcome the wretched unfitness for carrying out colonization which the Hudson's Bay Company had exhibited. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that an inquiry into the conduct of the company was instituted by the Secretary of State for the Colonies before any discussion in that House took place on the subject, and that inquiry was still proceeding, although it was not intended to wait the result of the inquiry before the grant should take place. He quite concurred in the opinions of his Noble Friend (Earl Grey), that they were not likely to have colonization in Vancouver's Island except through the instrumentality of the Hudson's Bay Company. NATIONAL EDUCATION IN IRELAND. Mr. G. A. HAMILTON then rose to move that an huwble address be presented to her Majesty, praying that her Majesty will be graciously pleased to direct that such a modification of the system of national education in Ireland may be made as may remove the conscientious objections which a very large roportion of the clergy and laity of the Established Church entertain to that system as at present carried into operation; or other wise, that means may be taken to enable those of the clergy and laity of the Established Church who entertain such conscientious objections, to extend the blessings of Scriptural education in Ireland. He said it was unnecessary to make any apology for submitting the above motion to the House, because there never was a period when education was more appreciated, and the principles en which such a system should be conducted more thoroughly:understood, than at the present moment. He complained that the system of toleration, carried so successfully in England, was not applied in the same spirit to the clergy and laity of the Established Church of Ireland. In proof of this he might quote the sentiments enunciated by the Noble Lord (Lord J. Russell), the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Tamworth, and Lord Alorpeth, whose Christian character endowed their opinion with consi derable weight. The Hon. Gentleman then said that addresses had been signed by a large number of the pre lates and clergy of the Established Church of Ireland, praftiag that some modification should be made of the prebent national system of education in Ireland. These addresses were presented in the years 1832 and 1845. The lion. Gentleman then said that, if the property of the Church of Ireland was equally divided between the clergy of that country it would give only 2001. a year to each clergyman, and a congregation to each clergyman 6,000 persons.—[An Hon. Member—What ?]—He meant of 600 persons. Then, again, clergymen were refused livings because they conscientiously opposed the nations'. system of education. Was this right? Was it not using the patronage of Government to promote a particular system, to which the clergy and a large body of the country were opposed? What the Protestants of Ireland asked was, that either schools should be estab lished where scriptural education should be afforded to all, or that a separate branch of the present system should be made applicable to scriptural education. They were bound to attend to the demands of 1,600 clergymen out of a body of 2,000. After some fur ther übservations, the Hon. Member concluded b y making the motion with which be commenced his address. the Honour able Gentleman rW. O rn is a l n E f ß o rVtIbLeL judicious after jci o n, com plimentin g manner in which he had brought this question before the House, s ai d the real ques tion for the consideration of the House w as this , was the national system of education—the mixed system of educe tion—which had existed in Ireland for the last fifteen veer s , the length aage o time df Now, n considering the p resent state of Ire land, this system of ed ucat i on ex i sted in Ireland, and and the fact that the prejudices which had prevailed even on the part of the Protestant clergymen themselves were fast fading away, he thought the House ought to pause before they assented to the motion brought forward by his Honourable Friend. The Right Honourable Gentleman then proceeded to contend, from facts that were beyond dispute, that a great body of the Protestant clergymen in Ireland had given up their hostility to the national system of education. Mr. Woodward, at a later period, having ex amined the matt er f or hi mself, stated that the board was entirely free from the charges brought against it of exclud ing scriptural education from the schools. The case of Mr. Woodward was not a solitary one. Many ot h e r clergymen have declared th emse l ves i n favour of t h e national system. lie asked them whether, under such circumstances, they should now abandon the mixed systems and establish one which would invol ve a necess ity to erect separate schoo ls, not only for th e mem b ers of the atablished C hurch, bat try with for the Roman Catholics, and so cover the lie should which had so long prevailed in that country. schools to perpetuate those differences and c e ° sc u c il lusiveness op pose the motion of his Hon. Friend. Captain JONES said t here w here the clergymen of th e Established Church wer e the patrons. so except in those c ases was no such thing as united the rules as to enable the members o the stab - so modify T b hey sh f ould , E either lished Church to avail themselves of it, or at once give e ac h sect a separate grant, Mr. tiltOtiAN bald he had a right to complain that the English Parliament should coerce the feelings of the Pro testant clergy of Ireland upon this subject, and deny th em ttie pr ivilege of carrying out their principles in educating t h e children. The joint system of ed uca ti on was only cur rent in the C h urch Establishment schools. He hoped they would attend to the temperate appeal made to them by his lion. Friend in favour of his motion. Sir IVILLIAM VERNER complained that the Govern mentthi h o b e l a d l f o r r o m thosepresent systemc l e r to was the w n i a t were e favourablepatronag e romfenedu*c.hao tion. lie had himself applied for a friend of his to be ap pointed chaplain to the Lord-Lieutenant, and was refused, on the ground that he was opposed to the national system. The hest system of education in Ireland was that under the Kil dare-place Society. Mr. S. CRAWFORD said he knew the Protestant clergy were opposed to the national system, but that was not shared in by the Protestant laity, as was shown by the fact that the number of these schools was greater in the north of Ire land than in other parts of the country. He knew that the Scriptures were read in these schools • the only difference was that the Catholic childrenwere not obliged to attend on these occasions, as they objected to read the Scriptures without note and comment. lie should give his cordial support to the continuance of the existing system. Mr. B. OSBORNE regretted that Honourable Members opposite had not come forward manfully and opposed the vote on the merits of the question. As the motion stood, it was opposed to the religious scruples of Roman Catholic pa rents, and if carried, it would upset the whole system of mixed education. The Honourable Member for the Univer sity of Dublin had called for a modification of the system. but it appeared that what he proposed was the abolition of the Ipresent board of education, and the substitution of a system of separate grants for that now in force. 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