The Sun. — London, England, 1848-07-31 00:00:00

Vbirb Wibition SUN OFFICE, Seven o'Clock. AUSTRALIAN MINING COMPANY. (THIS DAY.) The third annual general meeting of this company was held to-day at the offices in Adelaide-place, London-. bridge; Mr. Horne in the chair. The basines of the meeting was to receive the report of the directors re specting the state of the property, to fill up the ordinary vacancies occasioned by the rotational resignation of a portion 'of the directory, as well as those arising from the resignations of Mr. Alderman Copeland and Mr. Edward Hogen, and to fix the remuneration of the directors. The substance of the report was, that since the last general meeting the managing committee • had made an addition to the property of the company by the pur chase of G 75 acres of mining ground, to the north of and adjoining Wheal Rothschild Mine, at the rate of a pound an acre. Into these sections it was found that the veins of Wheal Rothschild dipped, and the Colonial Committee having formerly re e.ommensied the purchase of this land at a much higher price, the acquisition was deemed a very valuable one. The company's land at Allen's Creek now comprises one solll block of 1,400 acres, which are said to be inlaid with some of the richest mi neral lodes. From Tungkill they write that they have thirty tons of prepared ore on the surface, which is worth 201. a ton. At Wheal Rothschild four new lodes have been opened. The other mines are re presented as promising, and a bill of lading for seventy tons of copper by the Derwent, is daily expected. The ore purchased in Adelaide to load the ships has all been advantageously sold. Brevet-Major Camp bell, late military secretary to Sir Lionel Smith, has been appointed superintendent in Australia, and has been engaged for three years at an adequate salary, including an arrangement for his passage out and home. Mr. B. E. Linde, Mr. H. J. Enthoven, and Mr. H. Decastro, were the three directors who went out by rotation, and the gentlemen who stood candidates for the vacancies occasioned by the resignation were Mr. C. Downes, Mr. J. P. Penny, and Mr. H. R. Wotton. The balance-sheet showed that the amount received on account of calls is 47,4701.; bills payable, 17,3311.75. 2d. and proceeds of the copper ore received 4/. 15s. Bd., making a total of 64,8061. 2s. 10d. The contra account showed an outlay for ore purchase, freights, and insurance of 17,1001. 14s. 3d., leaving a ba lance of 16,5031. 16s. 7d., which is accounted for in the way of interest, 8941. Bs. 3d.; preliminary ex penses, 8544 17s. I Id. ; office expenses in London, 2,8881. 2s. 9d.; chartered ships. 378/. 9s. Id.; miners' wages, 6,191/. 17s. 6d,; insurance, 1001. 2s. sd. ; com mittee of management, 5,144/. 1 Is. Bd.; and cartage, 16,5031. 16s. 7d. The report was unanimously adopted. The three re tiring directors were re-elected, and the ballot was taken for the several candidates, when Mr. Downes and Mr. Wotton were declared successful. A vote of thanks was passed by acclamation to the chairman and directors, and also one to Mr. Joseph, the secretary, for his exertions and a very beautiful map of the property, which he had voluntarily supplied. The meeting then broke up. TATTERSALL'S-THIS EVENING. Six O'CLOCK. ST. LEGER. 5 to 2 on the field 3 to 1 agst Flatcatcher 9 to 2 agst Justice to Ireland 5 to 1 agst Surplice No other race mentioned. ELECTION COMMITTEES. (THIS DAY.) DUBLIN. The scrutiny into the validity of Mr. Reynolds's ma jority was resumed, but the petitioners did not succeed in striking off any additional votes to-day. NORTH CHESHIRE. The Committee re-assembled at twelve o'clock to-day, and after hearing Mr. James in reply to the case for the sitting Member, they ordered the room to be cleared. The - Committee deliberated till four o'clock, when sPrangers were re-admitted, and The CHAIRMAN announced that the Committee had come to the following resolutions:—" That it appears that at the last North Cheshire election, meat, drink, and refreshments were provided to a considerable ex tent, for the purpose of refreshing the voters; but no sufficient evidence has been produced to connect the sitting Member or his agents with the providing of such meat, drink, and refreshments. " That George Cornwall Legh, Esq., was duly elected a knight of the shire to serve in the present Parliament for the northern division of the county of Chester." This closed the labours of the Committee. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. (THIS EVENING.) HOUSE OF LORDS. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat upon the Wool. rack at Five o'clock. TRUSTEES RELIEF (IRELAND) BILL. The Trustees Relief (Ireland) Bill was read a third ime and passed. HIGHLANDS ROAD BILL. Bill was read a third time and passed. DECLARATORY SUITS BILL. This Bill 7. , as passed through Committee. CORN-MARKETS (IRELAND) BILL. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE mo7ed the second reading . of the Corn-Markets (Ireland) Bill. COPY HOLDS' BILL. The Bishop of LONDON suggested the propriety of polponing this Bill until next session. He thought that measures of this nature ought to be submitted to their Lordships at an earlier period of the session. The Lord CHANCELLOR said the Bill had been altered in order to meet the wishes of the House, and he was not, therefore, inclined to postpone it another session. The Bishop of LONDON hoped that at this late period of the session the Noble and Learned Lord would consent to postpone the Bill. Lord STANLEY hoped, considering the amount of business pressing upon the House, that this measure would not be pressed forward by the Government during the present session. He deprecated the course which the Government had pursued of delaying the considera tion of important measures in that House until the month of August. He trusted that the measure would be postponed to an early period of next session. Lord WHARNCLIFFE said that the fault of the defty of thierßill did not rest upon the Noble and Learned Lord on the Woolsack, who had introduced it at an early period of the session, but upon those who had originally opposeithe Bill, at whose request the consi deration of ie ha been postponed, in order to give time for the introduction of certain alterations calculated to meet their objections. After a few words from the Marquis of SALISBURY, The LORD CHANCELLOR said he should press the measure. Lord STANLEY reiterated his objections to the Bill. The Lord CHANCELLOR said the Noble Lord ob jected to the whole Bill. lie knew not whether or no the Noble Lord was acquainted with the provisions of the Bill, but he very much suspected that he was not. There were many matters in the Bill . on which all par ties were agreed, and those portions of the Bill he should certainly press. Lord STANLEY explained. After a few worth from Lord REDESDALE, the sub ject dropped. (LETT SITTING.) HOUSE OI'COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the Chair to-day shortly after Twelve o'clock. LORDS' AMENDMENTS. The Lords' amendments to the following Bills were considered and agreed to:— Stirling and Dunfermline Railway (Amendment and Deviations) Bill. Worcester Turnpike Trust Bill. THIRD READINGS. The following Bills were read a third time and passed: Clerkenwell Improvement Bill. East Anglian Ruilways (i'ly and Huntingdon Railway Extension of Tinge) Bill. Edinburgh and Glasgow Railway, and Edinburgh and Bathgate Railway Amalgamation Bill. SECOND READINGS. The following Bills were read a second time and or. dered to be committed:— Fawcett's (or Alderson's) Estate Bill. Landon (City) Small Debts Bill. HIGHWAY RATES BILL. The Highway Rates Bill was read a second time and ordered to be committed to-morrow at twelve o'clock, after a protest from Mr. Arkwright against the con tinual morning sittings of the House. FARMERS' ESTATE SOCIETY (IRELAND) BILL. The House went into Committee on this Bill. Mr ROUNDELL PALMER moved an amendment to the first clause, believing that if ever there was an Act introduned into the House to which the term of inconsistency ought to be applied, it was the present Bill. By the first clause the provisions of the Lauds Clauses C onso lid at i on Act was l et i nto t h e mea sure ; and, h e b e li eved, that fact wou ld h ave t h e effect of rendering imperative those powers which he thought the House . intended to give by the pre sent Bill. He obj ecte d to the compulsory powers given by the Act, which would enable parties to purchase any lands in Ireland. • Mr. MONSELL said that the Bill had been introduced after great consideration by the legal authorities in Ire land, and there was no intention in incorporating the Lands Clause Consolidation to give compulsory puwers for the purchase of land. Sir G. GREY suggested that thu clause should be postponed. After some observations from Mr. lIENLEy and Mr. R. P.AL-mr,k, the clause was postponed. Clauses 2 to 13 were agreed to, with a few verbal amendments. Upon clause 14 a long discussion ensued relative to the minimum quantity of land to be sold by the society, and it was ultimately agreed that the minimum should be axed at thirty acres. The proviso to this clause, preventing the purch aser of thirty acres of land , ex ce p t under penalties, to afte r - Wards • subdivide it, also gave r ise to a lengthened dis. ' suasion. \, . • Mr. P. SCROPE objected to that principle on the i . ground that it would stimulate the clearance system 1r..•: , among those small farmers who occupied less than thirty ro ,e ,t,- INTOS. - /_:', . -- t * ' ‹ ,- ! . F , I , •,/;--;"--/ ••- " • _ . 1 9 Al 1 The house divided upon the question, that the ori ginal proviso stand part of the Bill, when there ap peared— Ayos. Noes 3 Majority After another lengthened discussion, the clause was then agreed to. Clauses 14 to 18 were then agreed to, after a desul• tory conversation, as were also clauses up to 26. The House then resumed, the Chairman reported pro gress, and obtained leave to sit again to-morrow at twelve o'clock. REPRODUCTIVE LOAN FUND INSTITUTION (IRELAND) BILL. This Bill was read a third time and passed. JUVENILE OFFENDERS (IRELAND) BILL. This Bill was read a third time and passed. LAND-TAX COMMISSIONERS' NAMES BILL. This Bill was read a third time and passed. REGENTS QUADRANT COLONNADE BILL. This Bill was read a third time and passed, POOR-LAW UNION CHARGES BILL. This Bill went through Committee pro forma, in order that it might be reprinted, after a few observations from Mr. C. BULLER. The Committee was then fixed for Friday. STANDING ORDERS. On the motionof Sir W. HEATHCOTE, the report of the Select Committee on the Standing Orders revision was considered and agreed to. The House than adjourned to Five o'clock. The House resumed at Fire o'clock. Dr. BOWRING presented a petition in favour of the Poor-law Union Charges Bill. Mr. LUSHINGTON presented a petition in favour of Parliamentary reform. NORTH CHESHIRE ELECTION. Lord COVRTENAY brought up the report of the North Cheshire Election Committee, declaring Mr. Legh to have been duly elected. The Noble Lord then gave notice, that at the request of the' Committee he should move to-morrow that the evidence taken before them be printed. On the motion of the Noble Lord the evidence was ordered to be laid before the House. JURIES (IRELAND). Mr. F. FRENCH wished to ask the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of the Home Department the ques tion of which he had given him notice. In the report of the speech made by the Right Hon. Baronet respect ing the striking of juries in Dublin, he was reported to have said that he did not mean to say anything don• by the sheriff was not illegal ? The SPEAKER called the Hon. Member to order, he could not refer to a previous debate. Sir G. GREY said that what he had stated was that he was not prepared to say that anything done by the Sheriff was illegal. THE SUN, LONDON, MONDAY EVENING, JULY 31, 1848 CORRUPT PRACTICES BILL. Colonel SIBTHORP wished to put a question to the Right Hon. Baronet the Secretary of State for the Home Department. He understood that it bad been arranged that the Farmers' Estate Society (Ireland) Bill should stand for to-morrow at twelve o'clock. Now such being the case, he wished to know whether the Corrupt Practices Bill was to come on to-morrow at twelve o'clock, as he must confess that was the only Bill before the House that he cared a farthing for. Sir G. GREY was not aware that it had been arranged that the Farmers' Society (Ireland) Bill was to go on to morrow at Twelve o'clock; if it did, it would probably occupy the whole day. DISTURBANCES IN IRELAND. Lord CASTLEREAGH wished to know whether her Majesty's Government had received any informa tion as to whether any collision had taken place in Ire land between the people and the police, or the military forces? Sir G. GREY said he had not received any letters in reference to such a collision; but he had received by the electric telegraph to-day a message from the Mayor of Liverpool, which had been transmitted to him by the Lord-Lieutenant, and stated that a collision had takea place yesterday in the county of Tipperary be tween the insurgents and the constabulary, but not with her Majesty's forces ; and also that General Macdonald, with a large body of troops, was in close pursuit of Mr. Smith O'Brien. It stated, further, that " some few people had been killed," but no names were mentioned. CHURCHYARDS. In reply to a question from Mr. HARCOURT, '.Lord MORPETH stated that he hoped to introduce a next session to prevent burials in metropolitan churchyards. SUGAR DUTIES. Lord G. BENTINCK wished to ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer, before the House resolved: itself into a Committee of the whole House to consider the sugar duties, whether he would make some state ment with respect to those changes which he understood her Majesty's Government had resolved upon making? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it was usual to make a statement with respect to revenue and trade after the Speaker left the chair. The House then resolved itself into Committee on the Sugar Duties; Mr. Bernal in the chair. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER then proceeded to state the alterations which the Government intended to make in the sugar duties. The altera•• tion which the Government intended to make with respect to double and refined sugar, were fully set forth in the paper. The Government had hoped to hare made some arrangement by which sugar used by the poorer classes at homo might obtain sugar at a reduced rate, but the result of interviews which he and his Hon. Friend the Member for Westbury had had with sugar refiners had led them to the opinion that they could not at present clearly seo their way to the introduction of such a provision. The House would would believe him when ho said that no time nor pains were spared to come to a satisfactory conclusion. The main difficulty at which they had to contend, was the necessity that the whole of the sugars which came from the refiners must be subject to some duty. If Government complied with the wishes of lion. Gentlemen opposite, and imposed restriction upon the re fining of sugars for the protection of the honest menu facturer, it would only serve to revive the evils of excise interference, and he must therefore decline to comply with the demand of the Noble Lord aid his followers. (LEFT SITTING.) BANK OF FRANCE. The following is the return of the state of the Bank of Franco and its branches to the 27th July, 1848: ASSETS. Cash in coin and ingots . . f. 90,878,058 48 Ditto in branch banks 76,554,648 00 Bills past due ... 1,384,778 91 Bills becoming due in Paris ... ... 98,753,161 52 Bills in the branch banks ... 139,595,100 67 Advances on coins and ingots... ... 16,186,300 00 Ditto on French public securities ... 37,982,596 65 Ditto by branch banks... ... 1,365,925 00 Ditto to the State on Bons du Trtl'sor... 50,000,000 00 Advance to the State on the loan of 150,000,000 f. 25,000,00 Q 60 Reserve Rentes ••• ••• ••• 10,000,000 00 Rentes, disposable funds 11,248,460 71 Investments of the new branch banks in the public funds 12,806,741 39 Hotel and furniture of the bank ... 4,000,000 00 Real property and branch banks ..• 2,523,241 00 Interest in the branch bank at Algiers... 1,000,000 00 Interest in National Discount Bank ... 200,000 00 Ditto branch banks ... 230,000 00 Bills Protested at Paris ..• .•• 23,065,307 37 Ditto in the branches ... ... 11,012,655 00 Expenses of administration of the bank 500 00 Ditto at branches ..• 46,970 00 Miscellaneous 1,605,592 00 f. 617,434,037 97 NAVAL INTELLIGENCE. PORTSMOUTH, SUNDAY.—The Fire Queen steam yacht, Master-Commander Allen, embarked their Royal Highnesses the Duchess of Gloucester and the Duke of Cambridge at Cowes, yesterday morning, having termi nated their visit to her Majesty, and brought them to this harbour. her Highness landed at the Victoria Pier, Portsmouth, under the usual honours, and proceeded under the escort of the Governor (Lord Frederick Fitz clarence, G.C.H.) and staff to the Government House, where the Royal Duchess was received by Lady Fitzcla rence, and partook of refreshment. The Duke of Cam bridge, attended by Sir Charles Ogle, Commander-in • Chief, was landed from one of the royal barges at the Clarence-yard, and proceeded to London by the 12 30 (express) train from Gosport, the carriage being brought into the yard by Mr. Superintendent Stevens, of the railway company. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Gloucester crossed the harbour by the floating bridge, and left for town by the 2.30 train. Me Myrtle steam-vessel, Master Commander Ballis ton, arrived on Friday night from Woolwich, to be at tached to this port. The Llewellyn steam-vessel, Master Commander Grey (acting), put in here yesterday morning on her way to Liverpool, with a quantity of rockets on board. She replenished fuel and proceeded in the evening. The missiles are for service in Ireland. The Virago steam-sloop, acting Commander Harris, arrived here yesterday on her way to Ireland. She put in here to make good defects, and obtain some necessary stores, having been sent from Sheerness on Friday with 200 marines in great haste. She is now complete and will wail this evening, The Fairy and Fire Queen steam-yachts are both dis abled. The Fairy failed on Friday afternoon, and the Fire Queen struck last evening, and was towed into har bour by one of the island packets. A great number of coast-guard men have been brought to this port from the coasts of Kent and Sussex by the Vulcan and other revenue vessels to serve in Ireland. They are to be put on board the Dragon, which will leave with them to-morrow or Tuesday morning. Wind, south; moderate breezes, and cloudy weather. PLYMOUTH, JULY 29.—The steam-frigates Cyclops and Driver arrived this forenoon from Portsmouth and proceeded to the Royal William Victualling-yard, where, between one and two o'clock P.M., they embarked the 35th Royal Sussex Regiment (900 strong), and at two o'clock precisely started with them for Dublin, where they expect to arrive to-morrow afternoon. The Rifleman steamer arrived last night from Ports mouth, and remains in liamoaze. The Adventure, naval transport, sailed this afternoon with 1,600 bags of bread and other provisions for Admiral Sir C. Napier's squadron at Cork. The Birkenhead, steam transport, arrived at seven o'clock this evening from Portsmouth, and after running in abreast of Drake's Island, and signalizing some time with the Port-Admiral, she proceeded to the outer an chorage of the Sound and brought up. In the Sound—Caledonia, 120; Pantaloon, 10; Nauti lus, 10, and Birkenhead, steamer. DR. TURNBULL'S CURE FOR DEAFNESS. [The following paragraphs, extracted from two of our provincial contemporaries of Saturday last, will bring to the recollection of our readers the notices which have repeatedly appeared in this journal respecting the treatment of the deaf and dumb by Dr. Turnbull, of 48, Russell's-square. At present we content ourselves with simply transcribing tho subjoined announcements.—ED. of The Sun.] Dr. Turnbull, of London, who has for many years devoted great attention to diseases of the ear, appears to have discovered a method of conferring the faculty of hearing on deaf and dumb persons who have not decided malformation of the ear, produced by disease or other wise. As far back as 1842 there was a very favourable notice of his cures in Chandpers's Journal, and they were attested by medical men of eminence. Having now, by the experience of years, proved that the cure is per manent, Dr. Turnbull has visited Manchester, and is now in Leeds, for the purpose of bringing his cure be fore the medical profession and the public. At Man chester he operated on eighty or ninety persons, who had been born deaf and dumb, and of those about forty were cured. We see details in the Manchester papers, and we have also seen letters from Mr. Samuel Lucas (brother-in-law of Mr. Bright, M.P.), stating that his own son, who was born deaf; has been restored to hear ing by Dr. Turnbull. The doctor makes his experiments on deaf and dumb persons gratuitously, and always in the presence of medical men, who examine and attest the state of the patient both before and after. We under stand that he is ready to do this at his lodgings, No. 1, King-street, Leeds. Should the efficacy of the cure be established, it will be a great blessing to mankind. The process is painless. Dr. Turnbull intends to make it tully known after he has decisively established it in the opinion of medical men by the results of his public expe riments.—Leeds Mercury. The Manchester papers of this month give some very interesting details of experiments tried in that town re cently, for testing the success of Dr. Turnbull's treat ment of deafness. These reports attract our attention at this moment the more particularly, because Dr. Turn bull is on a visit to Leeds for the purpose of affording demonstration of the efficacy of his treatment. Our Manchester contemporaries speak in eulogistic terms of the doctor's success, which has been exemplified in the cases of persons who were either born deaf or who lost the faculty of hearing at so early an age as never to have acquired the use of language. Some remarkable attestations aro also given in favour of Dr. Turnbull's treatment from other quarters; we may mentio❑ Cham bers's Edinburgh Journal, as well as Mr. Lucas, whose son (a nephew of Mr. Bright) was a remarkable instance of successful treatinent.—Leeds Intelligencer. MONETARY _INTELLIGENCE, REVIEW OF THE MONEY MARKET FOR THE MONTH OF JULY, 1848. The symptoms of revival, which had begun to show themselves during the past month, have become more palpable and apparent during the progress of the pre sent. As far as the mere market for capital is concerned, there have been few periods when the wants of borrowers on reasonable security have been more readily met or met on lower terms. This facility of the rates of interest has in reality become a subject of remark, and there is again the old complaints that money cannot find a secure and adequate outlet. If the monthly drafts, kept up by the railways, should be put an end to, we must suppose that these complaints would assail us with increased vehemence, and from a greater variety of quarters. The average amount of the railway calls for the last three or four months has been within a trifle as large as it was last year. The country, in fact, is sustaining an expenditure of more than thirty millions a year. The existence of so immense a source of demand, and the prevalence of a rate of interest, not much beyond 2 per cent., may reasonably suggest a doubt of the solidity of the outcry raised against the railway expenditure of 1847. We have al ways admitted, in these pages, that, carried beyond a certain point, the railway calls would be simply impos sible. The entire difficulty turns upon this certain point, and we suspect that by this time most practical people are agreed that neither during the last year nor the pre sent, looking at the question free from extraneous com plications, has this extreme limit been ever attained. A history of the Consol market during the month would be an exceedingly chequered narrative. Starting at 83 to 84, the price was run up to 89 by the aid of fine weather, improved trade, and the payment of the dividends. At the time we write the quotations are down to 85, and the alleged reasons are the prospect of an Irish rebellion, the continuance of wet weather, and, we dare say, the example of a few leading men who have suddenly become " bears." The railway share niaket has sympathised very closely—but in a manner less diversified by excitement and extremes — with the condition of the public funds. Immediately subsequent to the events of February, we inserted a short comparative table of the prices of the leading foreign funds before and subsequent to that cycle of extraordinary occurrences. The following figures will enable us to form an opinion as to how far the violent depreciation of property then incurred has been removed by restoration of confidence. 18th February, 24th March, 21st July, 1816. 1642. MS. Dutch 2i per Cents Dutch 4 per Cent. Certificates 85i 61 ... 72 Russian Bonds, 5 per Cents lll ... 87 ... 100 Belgian Bonds, 4i per Cents 9O ... 58 ... 71 French Rentes, 5 per Cents. French Rentes, 3 per Cents. Bank of France Shares The securities of the French Government stand in by far the worst position in this list, nor is it likely that this position will be improved by the present financial dilemma of the Republican Government. The original loan of 50,000,000 of francs by the Bank of France in March last, was recently extended to 150,000,000 of francs. Even this respectable sum is now ex hausted, and the Minister of Finance has, during the last few days, obtained the consent of the Assembly to a project for a new loan, by the crea tion of five per cent. rentes equal to an annual charge he p o u f b l t , h o o oo r a f r t a e n o c f s . 75f.TThese rentes fo r eve a r r y e fi t obe sold to tat v francse of rents. supposing the whole of the rentes to be disposed of at this sate, the result would be that a gross loan of about 20e,000,000f. (say 8,000,0101.) would be raised at a rate of very nearly 64 per cent. per annum. The for feited deposits upon the last loan are to be available in the subscription, and with the hdp of this resource it is just possible that the French peoile may be able to en trust their new Government with the money. Nobody seems to expect that foreign calitalists will extensively interfere. The escape of the railways from confiscation is somewhat too fresh in the menory of the creditors of France to permit such an expectation.—Bankers' May. THE STATE OF TRADE. (From the Bankers' Magazine.) There can be no longer any question whatever that the trade of the country during the last four or five weeks has undergone a most iecided change for the better. There is both more busness in hand and for a greater number of places. We refer with the greatest pleasure to the following returns of the Manchester mills : 31111 s. Work people. June 20, 1848. July 13. June 20, 1848. July 18. working full time . 135 ... 167 ... 29,745 ... 34,891 Working short time 43 ... 27 ... 6,274 ... 3,345 Stopped work 203 211 44,422 44,733 SIR ROBERT KANE on IRELAND. The population of Ireland his been determined by the census of 1841 to be 8,175,124 souls, of whom four mil lions are males, and of these two millions and a quarter may be considered as of the labouring age. Now, as we have in Ireland thirteen million and a half acres of arable land, there is precisely the allocation, to every 100 acres, men; bat as of the Irish popula tionb of 17 uttwo- labouring thirdsareactuallr engaged in agriculture, it may be considered that to ,?.very 100 statute acres of land there are 11 labourers dependent for employment; and on those again are depenlent for support, females, old men, and children, to the rumber of 29 ; and these persons must be supported by the land out of its produce before profits can be reckoned, or the value and propor tion of rent can be struck—in ill 40 persons, of whom 20 are females, 9 are feeble old hen and children, and 11 are working men. Thus for tle whole country: Agricultural females Old men and b0y5......., 1,219,178 Agricultural labourers.. 1,490,107 Total Now, if we refer to the circumstances under which the working of land npon the largefarm syatean is conducted, we shall find, as well from practice as from the estimates put forward by the best informed writers, such as Pro fessor Low, that on a farm )f 500 acres there will be permanently engaged the farmer, his steward, or fore man, and 20 workmen. There will be at certain seasons extra field work done by men, women, and children, who, if not of the families of the workmen, must be drawn from some source external to the farm, and must, except at those short periods, live upon means not derived from farm labour. The staff of the farm employed upon and living by means of it is reckoned as above. Now, let us suppose our thirteen and a half millions of acres of arable land in Ireland arranged and cultivated on this plan, there will be employed twenty-two persons to each 500 acres; but we lave seen, that upon 500 acres there are dependent fifty-five working males. Employment cannot therefore be afforded to one-half, indeed but to two fifths, and there will remain— Females . . Old men and male children 731,508 Labourers .. 894,063 3,351,242 for whom the land can afford no employment; who can not by their laboir earn in any way their share of the produce of the laid; and the question, truly important fur the landlord vho has to seek for rent, as well as for the farmer, who las to pay rent, is the manner in which these three and cne-third millions of useless and surplus people are to be removed, or in some way provided for. —Agricultural and Industrial Journal. JOHN BULL'S ATELIERS NATIONAUX. "I say, in England, Mrs. Bull, we have no Ateliers Nationaux." And I say 3ou have," replied the dame, " only other wise ehristiank." . " Well then,' said Mrs. Bull, " suppose, John, every week I was to set down in the house expenses, say ten pounds a week, for seed and sugar and toast for parrots; when at the same time there wasn't a single bird in the house." " Well, then, what do you say to that precious Duke of St. Alban's?—that precious Duke that takes in the Nashuno 1,20(1. for feeding hawks, when he hasn't a single feather on his hands? What's that?" * * " And wha are you to say to that Earl of Ellen borough, that,as the monkey ate the cheese instead of weighing it, tikes 9,0001. and more every year out of the scales of Justce? And what do you say, then, to the German Primes that are paid for doing nothing in our Nashuno? And what do you say to the Six Clerks' pensions, and the Duke of Marlborough's pension; and Lord Campbell's pension, for wearing the Seals of Ire land at his wttch•chain for a week; and, moreover, what do you say to the Earl of Besborough, that takes of the dear Queen (poor lady, how she is robbed among 'em!) 1,7001. a year for feeding the buckhounds, as if the Crown was b be supported by dogs; and—but here— Mr. Bull, look at the list, look, and then say, if you can, that you have in England here—where we're obliged to darn stocking=, when we should buy new ones—say then that you have no Telyura Nashuno." "Mrs. Bull," he said, "I'm sorry to own it, but you're quite right. We, too, in England, have Our Ateliers IV ationaux for pensioned idlers. But we must sweep them away; we must, and no mistake about it. We, too, must throw up our barricades—but tremble not, my love—they shall be barricades in the House of Com mons."—Punch.. DEATLI OT TIIE WELL-KNOWN " JERRY."—No one who has for the last ten or dozen years visited any of our principal race courses but must have a more or less perfect acquaintance with the " original," whose death took place on Friday evening last, at the hospital in Chichester, whither he had been conveyed in conse quence of serious injuries accidentally inflicted on the previous Wednesday. l.ccording to custom, Jerry had repaired to Goodwood, oy means of " Adam's own car riage, the ten-tied machine the haymakers use in Ire land," for the purpose of ♦ending the cards, containing " a full, thrue, and particular account of the horses, their names, weights, and colours of the riders," when in the act of soliciting a bevy of " noble sportsmen"—all men were noble and sporting--on the step of whose car riage he stood, the horses swerved violently, overturned the vehicle, and crushed poor Jerry beneath. His in juries, a fractured thigh, and a concussion of the brain, terminated in his death on Friday night. Jerry was a " character," a diverting vagabond in the truest sense, and it Johnson's dictum be true, that " he possesses it who strikes out novelty without effort, and distinguishes himself above his fellow-men, be his vocation humble or exalted," then Jerry was a genius. Departing from the common place and tiresome importunities of your vulgar lazzaroni, his very impertinencies were amusing, and his intrusion welcome. We must not omit, as limited space forbids further notice of his eccentricities, to state, as a proof of sporting generosity and kindly feeling, that Mr. Justice, before the fatal result, collected 701. in his behalf, which will be handed over to his widow. We are happy to learn that the potato crop in most parts of BaniLlaire, and along the Morayshire coast, generally wears a healthy and promising aspect. —Edinburgh Post. ASSIZE INTELLIGENCE. NORFOLK ClRCUlT.—Norwich, July 28. NISI PRIUS COURT.—(Before Mr. Baron PARKE.) QUARTER V. BACON. Mr. Sergeant Bytes, Mr. Palmer, and Mr. Wells, were counsel for the prosecution. Mr. O'Malley and Mr. Worlledge appearee, for the defendant. This wan an acticn by a gentleman who practises as an attorney at Aylshato, in this county, against the pro prietor of the Norwich Mercury, fur the publication of three several libels in that newspaper. The libels pur ported to be comments on the conduct of the plaintiff in a cause in the County Court of Norfolk, which was ter minated by an arrangement between the parties. The first libel charged the plaintiff with having sent to the Norwich Mercury " a garbled report" of the case in the County Court; the second libel imputed to him the having sent the garbled report from dishonourable and personal motives; and the third, in addition to other severe remarks, accused the plaintiff of having behaved in a manner for which he ought to be struck off the roll of attorney. The libels were justified by the defendant's plea. The plaintiff, however, went into all the facts of the manner in which he conducted the case in the County Court for the purpose of disproving the allega tions in the pleas of justification; and, before the case had been brought to a close, Mr. Baron PARKE recommended the defendant to submit to a verdict for 405., and make an ample apology, if the plaintiff would aecept these terms. Ultimately this suggestion was deferred to, and a ver dict was taken for the plaintiff accordingly, with damages —Forty shillings. CROWN COURT.—(Before Mr. Justice MAULE.) If Wiwi& Jones was indicted for having cut and wounded Sarah, his wife, with intent to murder her, or to do her some grievous bodily harm. Mr. Naylor conducted the prosecution. The prisoner was not defended by counsel. He was found guilty of the latter count in the indictment, and sentenced to be tran:p3rted for fifteen years. July 29. The cases in the Civil Court were of no public inte rest. Those in the Crown Court were for the most part utterly unfit for publication. It is, h ow ever, proper to mention, that the stupidity of the wit nesses and the brutal character of the crimes deposed t o b y them were such as to elicit from Mr. Justice Ma uls the remark that the ignorance and bad morals of the lower orders in this county was astonishing. HOME CIBC UlT.—Maulstone, July 29. The business of these assizes has been singularly un• interesting, and although the number of cases, both in the Crown Court and at nisi prius, was larger than usual, very few of them presented any feature of inte rest to the public. Mr. Sergeant Dowling assisted Mr. Justice Coltman on Friday in trying prisoners, and this will tend materially to shorten the business of the assize. CIVIL SlDE.—(Before the LORD CHIEF BARON and a Special Jury.) MOORE, THE ELDER, AND MOORE, THE YOUNGER, V BECKETT AND OTHERS. These were two actions brought to recover compensa tion for an injury sustained in consequence of the alleged conduct of the servants of the defendants, who are pro prietors of the Satellite, Gravesend steam-boat ; but as the same point was involved in both, it was arranged that they should be disposed of by one jury. It appeared that, on the 13th July, last year, the younger plaintiff, a lad about sixteen, went on board the Satellite to proceed to Gravesend. The vessel was very much crowded, and it seemed that he seated himself upon the beam of the bowsprit, a place not usually ap propriated to passengers, with his back turned towards the head of the vessel. While the Satellite was round ing a point just about Greenhithe, called Broadness Point, she came into collision with the Eclipse Margate steamer, which was coming up to London, and the con sequence was that the bowsprit of the Satellite was forced in, and the boy had his leg broken. The limb was eventually amputated. The evidence for the defence was, that the crew of the Eclipse were to blame in not having navigated their vessel according to the rules of the river, and were consequently liable for the injury sustained. The evidence adduced on both sides was of a conflicting character. The jury returned a verdict giving 2001. damages to the son, for the injury he had sustained, and 901. to the father, for the expense he had been put to iu conse quence of the aecident. MIDLAND CIRCUIT , Derby.—July 29. CIVIL SlDE.—(Before Lord Chief Justice ✓ DENmAN and a Special Jury.) ARNGELEY V. THE LONDON AND NORTH-WESTERN RAIL- WAY COMPANY. This was an action on promises. Mr. Whitehurst, Q.C., Mr. Huinfrey, Q.C., and Mr. Mellor, appeared as counsel for the plaintiff ; Mr. Ma caulay and Mr. Denizen conducted the case on behalf of the company. The plaintiff was the owner of the Hunston Colliery, which had previously belonged to Mr. Newbold, who had supplied the company with coke of a superior quality, which was necessary for railway use, as the presence of sulphur was productive of great injury to the machi nery. The company had, originally, only a small sup ply from the colliery, but had gradually increased the quantity they ordered, at last becoming desirous of securing a supply by entering into a contract for a year ; and eventually, in December, 1846, they entered into a contract for a year with the plaintiff for the supply of 150 tons a week, at 21s. per ton, for the year 1847, to be transported to Rugby at the plain tiff's expense, the company supplying the waggons. It was stipulated that if the company should not take the 150 tons they were to pay by way of forfeit, at and after the rate of 2s. 6d. for every one of such number of 150 tons a week as they should not take, and there was a corresponding provision for forfeiture by the plaintiff for every to'e that should be deficient in the supply, viz., 2s. 6d. This agreement was entered into on the last day of December, 1846, and was for the year 1847. It appeared that complaints had been made of the coke being small; but on the plaintiff's part it was alleged that this arose from the waggons not being supplied by the company, and its being in consequence rendered necessary that there should be additional trans .ship ments of the coke, which was liable to crack when shifted in a damp state. On this subject the plaintiff, in 1847, wrote to the company, remonstrating respecting the in sufficiency of the supply of waggons, on the ground of the waste, loss, &c., caused by the trans-shipment so ren dered necessary by such deficiency. This letter was im portant, as calling attention to the want of waggons very soon after the contract was made. To it there was an answer from Mr. Bury the next day. The plaintiff never would shoot it on the ground if he could help it, but had frequently waited with his carts for half a day together for waggons. The shooting broke it, and in the absence of waggons it had to be shot twice, once on the ground, and then again into the waggons; and the shooting on to the ground injured it mush more than would the shooting it into the waggons direct from the plaintiffs carts. On the 29th of January the plaintiff wrote again to Mr. Bury respecting the deficiency of waggons and the consequent detention of the coke, reiterating his former remonstrances, and at the same time stating that if by the default of the company he should be compelled h r e e respect of d into saucepoprldyaancleesswqittLantthietyatghraenemcoennttr,accitleadrgfeori,n the quantity deficient. Various witnesses were then called for the plaintiff. Mr. MacsuLAY, for the defendants, contended that there had been in June, 1847, a rescission of the ori ginal contract entered into in Dee., 1846, and declared upon in the first count of the declaration. There was an annihilation of the old contract by an agreement, but not a creation of a new one, so as to support the second count of the declaration, because it was ;not in writing as required by the Statute of Frauds. Ibis LoaDssm' having summed up, The jury, after some little deliberation, returned a verdict for the plaintiff—damages, 1,2461., giving 2s. 6d. per ton from the date of the termination of the contract in May, to the end of the year, arid 5001. for unliqui dated damages, irrespective of and beyond the sum of 95/. paid into court. This terminated the business of the assizes for this county, and the Court rose at half-past nine, Mr. Jus tice Patteson having disposed of the Crown cases at about seven. There was nothing in the Crown Court calling for mention in the present crowded state of the journal 3. NORTHERN CIRCUIT—York, July 29. CROWN COURT.—(Before Mr. Justice ERLE.) SENTENCES ON THE CHARTIST RIOTERS. The prisoners first placed at the bar to receive sen tence were John Johnson, Francis Vicory, Henry Whibcornbe, William Sagar, William Smith, James Downs, Isaiah Heaton, William Connor, and William Winterburn, who were charged with rioting at Horton and Bradford; Sagar and Johnson to be imprisoned for two years with hard labour, and the remainder for eighteen months. Ambrose Tomlinson, for sedition at North Bierley, to be imprisoned for eighteen months, but without hard labour. Andrew Beanleand, for a riot at Bradford, to be im prisoned for eighteen months, with hard labour. James Ramsden, for drilling at Drighlington, to be im prisoned for two , ears, with hard labour. Benjamin Plant, Daniel Holroyd, and Thomas Fell, for drilling at Bradford, Horton, and Manningham, to he imprisoned for 15 months with hard labour. William Gill, John Cockerham, Henry Butterfield, Ambrose Power, and Roger Bradley, for drilling at Bradford, Clayton, and Horton, to be imprisoned for 12 months, with hard labour. Joseph Leeming, for drilling at Skircoat, to be im prisoned for 12 months, with hard labour. John Kilvington, Isaac Ickeringill, James Crabtree, and James Bland, for a riot, &c., were next sentenced: Ickeringill to be imprisoned for six months, with hard labour ; Crabtree for two months, but without hard labour ; Kilvington, one month, and without hard labour ; and Bland, who had been convicted of neglect of duty as a special constable, fined 101., and to be im prisoned till that fine be paid. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS, July 29. THE STATE OF IRELAND - ADJOURNED DEBATE. (Continued from our Third Edition of Saturday.) Mr. NEWDEGATE—He did not think it necessary to allude in detail to any of the propositions which had been made in the course of the debate for the modifica tion of the Act of Union, because he believed those propositions to be visionary and impracticable, but he felt himself called upon to make some reference to the manner in which various Hon. Members had proposed to deal with the Church Establishment in Ireland. The Hon. Member for Middlesex (Mr. Osborne) had spoken of that establishment as of a nuisance, and had declared his willingness to go to the hustings on the question of its abolition. He (Mr. Newdegate) was one of that Honourable Member's constituents, and he could assure the Honourable Gentleman that he would find it a some what more troublesome matter than he seemed to ap prehend to go to the hustings on any such question. He for one felt it to be his duty solemnly and emphatically to protest against the language which had been used with reference to the Irish Church by the Members of her Majesty's 'Government in the course of that debate. The Right Hon. Gentleman the Secretary for the Home Department was cautious and circumspe ct in his selec tion of language when speaking on th is question, but nevertheless it was quite evident that what be meant and intended was the suppression of the Irish Church. Sir G. GREY explained. What he had said was simply this, that he' concurred with the Hon. Member for Limerick (Mr. Monsell) in hoping that the day was not distant when it might be possible to propose some measure which would put an end to the evil of having the clergy of the great majority of the people depending for their maintenance on sources such as those to which the Hon. Member for Middletex referred.—(Hear.) Mr. NEWDEGATE, amid vehement cries of " Di vide," continued to observe that although the member s of her Majesty's Government had treated the Church of Ireland as the great grievance of Ireland, there were in. dependent Irish Members in that House, even of the Roman Catholic persuasion, who regarded it in a totally different light. The Hon. Member for Longford had acknowledged the utility of the Irish Church, and paid a handsome tribute of praise to the piety, learning, and acquirements of the Irish clergy ; and the Hon. Member for Youghal, who was, as every one knew, an ardent Roman Catholic, spoke in a similar strain, and declared that he did not believe that the Irish Church was re garded as a grievance even by the Catholics of Ireland. --(Shouts of " Divide, divide," and general indications of impatience.) Let it go to the world that Irish Mem bers had so spoken of it, and that when an English Member got up to defend it from the attack of another English Member, the House endeavoured to put him down by the force of clamour,—(Divide, divide.) The Church was the key-stone of that arch which united the two countries.—(Tremendous shouts of " Divide.") Ile should be sorry to move the adjournment of the House, but ho feared he should have to do so. Why should any Member of that House, be he Minister or not, presume to speak of the Irish Church as the upas tree of Parlia ment?—(Derisive cheers.) It was a blessing to Ireland, and it had the strongest claims on the reverential regard of the great majority of the English people.—(Uproar.) To the majority of the English people he was content to leave the issue. —(Hear, hear.) Lord JOHN hUSSELL—I fear that the Hon. Mem ber has mistaken the members of the Government, and me in particular, on a point on which it is very desirable that we should not be misunderstood. He says that the members of the Government have represented the Irish Established Church as'a grievance, and went on to repre sent that we had even attacked the conduct of the clergy of that Church. Mr. NEWDEG ATE—Oh, no, I did not say so. Lord J. RUSSELL—WeII, I am happy to find that I misunderstood the llonotirable Member. With respect to the conduct of the clergy, I havo only to offer unaf fectedly the tribute of my admiration to their virtues and acquirements. Nor did I ever say that I looked upon the Established Church as a grievance. What I said was that I thought the endowment of the clergy of the minority of the people, while there was no endow ment for the clergy of the majority, was a great subject of complaint amongst the people of Ireland.—(Hear, hear.) To this sentiment I have repeatedly given ut terance, and I adhere to it now as firmly as ever.— (Hear, hear.) In conclusion, I have only to remark, that I. consented that this debate should be adjourned until this day in order that the Irish Members might have an opportunity of speaking, and I trust that they will aid me in carrying out tne understanding with which we originated the debate, by assenting to a divi sion with as little delay as possible. Mr. REYNOLDS rose amid general calls for a divi sion. He wished to correct an error into which the Hon. Member for the county of Warwick had fallen. That gentleman had talked of the Hon. Member for Longford (Mr. R. M. Fox) as though he were a Catholic Member, and quoted from him accordingly. It was right, how ever, that the Honourable Member for Warwick should know that the Honourable Member for Longford, so far from being an orthodox Catholic, was a highly orthodox Protestant.—(Laughter.) The Honourable Gentleman had also fallen into an error in supposing that all persons who were Repealers in Ireland were Catholics. Mr. NEWDEGATE—I never said so. Mr. REYNOLDS had thought that the Honourable Member had said so, or at least said something tanta mount to it; but he supposed he had misunderstood him. But the Hon. Member had, at all events, fallen into a grievous error in supposing that the Honourable Member for Longford was either a Catholic, or a high authority as to the feelings of Catholics in Ireland, with respect to the Church question. The Honourable Member had referred to another Irish Member, who was not an Irish Member at all—(Great laughter)—the Honourable and Learned Member for Youghal (Mr. Anstey). It was true that that Honourable and Learned Gentleman was a Catholic, but he knew very little indeed about the feelings of Catholics in Ireland. He was a convert. He had very recently renounced what he now called the errors of the Established Church; but whether his conversion to the Church in which he (Mr. Reynolds) had the blessing of being borne, was or was not an ac quisition, to that church, was a question which he would not undertake to decide.—(Laughter.) It had often been said that the House was ignorant of the real state of Ire land. He had always known it to be true, but he could never have supposed that it could be true in so wholesale a sense as that that House could for one moment seri ously believe that the Irish people did not regard the Church Establishment as a grievance.—(Hear, hear.) If they were to believe the Hon. and Learned Member for Youghal, indeed, they would find it no difficult matter to credit that the Irish people, so far from looking on it as a grievance, regarded it as a national blessing.— (Laughter.) But he entirely denied that the Hon. and Learned Gentleman was a faithful interpreter of the Irish people on the question. If the Irish people should ever bring themselves to regard the Church Establishment otherwise than as a grievance and an injustice, there would be but little chance of that prediction being rea lised, which had been uttered some years ago by his im mortal fellow-countryman, Tommy Moore:— " As long as Ireland shall pretend, Like sugar-loaf turned upside down, To stand upon the sharper end, So long shall live great Rock's renown; As long as Popish spade and scythe Shall dig and cut the Sassenach's tithe, And Popish purses pay the tolls On heaven's road for Sassenach souls; As long as millions shall kneel down To ask of thousands for their own, While thousands proudly turn away, And to the millions answer, Nay; So long the merry reign shall be Of Captain Rock and his family." —(Loud laughter.) He had no to his Protestant fellow •subjects, not the least; but what he complained of was that he should be compelled by law to support, for their gratification, an establishment from which ho entirely dissented, and from which he received no be nefit. Let them look at the vulgar arithmetic of the argument. The population of Ireland was in round numbers 8;500,000. Of these 7,000,000 were Catholics, 700,000 were in communion with the Church of England, 700,000 were Presbyterians, and 100,000 were Wesleyans, Quakers, and other Dissenters. The clergy of the 7,000,000, who were 4,000 in number, cost the state nothing, being supported by the voluntary contributions of their flocks. The Presbyterians, who in the days of their political purity indignantly rejected aid from the State, now received 36,0001. a year in the shape of a Regiuni Donut's, and the clergy of the 700,000 Episcopalians enjoyed a revenue of upwards of 700,0001. a year, which was derived from a tax levied upon all classes of religionists.—(Hear, hear.) Yet the Hon. Member opposite was so innocent, which was a soft word in Ireland for ignorant—(Laughter)—as to believe that 7,000,000 of Catholics, 700,000 Presbyterians, and 100,000 Wesleyans and Quakers, did not think it a grievance (no, not the least in the world) to be compelled to pay for a clergy from whom they entirely dissented. So much for that part of the subject. There could be no doubt but that the speech of the Honourable and Gallant Member for Middlesex (Mr. Osborne) contained many useful suggestions, which might be made the foundation for good legislation, and which he hoped would one day receive the serious consideration of the House. He hoped to see the day when many of those suggestions would be carried out ; and, above all, he hoped to live to see the day when every man in the community would pay his own clergyman as he paid his own doctor.—(Laughter and cheers.) Honourable Mem bers might laugh, but he begged to call their attention to that period of the Christian era when Christianity was thought to be purest, and when its ministers were most respected, In the apostolic times there was no connec tion between church and state, and so it ought to be now. Religion ought to be sundered from all state connection, and the clergy of every persuasion should be supported by those who received the benefit of their services. He should vote for the motion of the Honourable Member for Rochdale, not because it would be productive of any practical good, just at present, but because it would af ford a guarantee to his fellow-countrymen that they should obtain relief at all events next session. For his own part, he could wish that relief were afforded now, for if ever within the last 48 years there was a period at which it was desirable that the axe should be laid to the root of bad legislation, it was the present.—(Hear, hear.) It was said that Ireland was on the verge of rebellion. He hoped it was not so ; but if it were so, those in that House and out of it, who had contributed to irritate pub lic feeling in Ireland, were accountable. Mr. STAFFORD rose amidst cries of divide to ad dress the House. He trusted the House would for a short time permit him to occupy its attention while he addressed himself to one, or at most two, of the topics— all of them important, most of them urgent—which had been submitted for their consideration by the Honour able Gentleman the Member for Rochdale. Before pro ceeding to do so, he must remark that, whatever charges he had heard made against the Honourable Member for Dublin, certainly it was not the charge of giving a fac tious opposition to her Majesty's Government—(Hear, hear)—for his conduct since he came into that House had been marked by a most elaborate and studious de sire to avoid any such charge.—(Hear, hear.) The Hon. Gentleman the Member for Dublin had stated, as he (Mr. Stafford) thought very fairly, that his wishes were not hostile to the Church of Ireland, but merely to the temporalities of that church. But the distinction which the Honourable Gentleman drew between the Church of Ireland and what the Right Honourable Gentleman the Secretary for Ireland called "the Ecclesiastical Establishment of Ire land," was, he (Mr. Stafford) presumed, of such a nature that they had little reason to thank him for saying he entertained no hostility towards it.—(Hear, hear.) Ho could assure him that they who belonged• to that Church, and adhered to its ritual, and believed in its apostolical origin and immortal destiny, were not afraid to stand up in that House to declare that it was stronger than any combination of politicians arrayed against it. —(Hear, hear.) It would be found that already there had been two alienations of the property of the Church of Ireland. The first took place when, by the abandon ment of the church cess, they fixed the charge for repairs of churches upon the ecclesiastical fund. The church cess might have been difficult of collection, unjust in its incidents, and ill managed in its expendi ture, but at all events he apprehended no gentleman, however hostile to the ecclesiastical establishments of Ireland, would deny that in removing the church cess from the property subject to that charge, and placing it upon the ecclesiastical property of the country, they simply transferred it to laymen, the owners of the pro perty on which it had been a charge. There was in the next place a commutation of tithes, and by the arrange ment which was made they gave 75 per cent. to the Church, but at the same time took 25 per cent. and gave it to the landlords.—(Hear, hear.) And they had this year under discussion the question of ministers' money in Ireland, which was said to amount to about 11,0001. or 15,0001. a year, and he believed 5,0001. of it was collected in the city which the lion. and Learned Gentleman (Mr. Reynolds) represented. Mr. REYNOLDS-11,0001. Mr. STAFORD-11,0001. of which was collected in the city of Dublin. The Hon. Gentleman who brought forward the question of ministers' money, having talked, of course, of liberty of conscience—the rights of tolera tion and respect for the feelings of others, ended by pro posing that this ministers' money should be defrayed out of the ecclesiastical property.—(Cries of " Question.") There could be nothing more germane to the question. Honourable Gentlemen called " question," and that plainly showed that they did not understand the ques tion before the House ; but it would not be his fault if they did not understand it. A question was now raised with respect to this ministers' money ; and if the propo sition made with regard to it was acceded to, they would merely, by doing so, transfer 15,0001. a year to the hands of the owners of the property in which it was at present charged, and 11,000/. of that would be transferred, not from the Protestant clergyman to the Roman Catholic priest, but from the ecclesiastical establishment to the owners of property in Dublin.—(Hear, hear.) When the Honourable Member for the city of Dublin declared that it was a hardship to be compelled to sup port a church to which he did not belong, he would re mind the Honourable Gentleman that he and those who were anxious for ' ecclesiastical establishments were far more nearly united in principle than those who were opposed to establishments of that kind. The Protestants of Ireland were, in fact, in the position which the Hon. Member for Dublin wished himself to be ; but let them once apply the principle which he contended for, and not a single person in Ireland would be in that desirable state.—(Hear, hear.) He would remind the Honourable Gentleman that the position of the Roman Catholic clergy in that country was this—they stood pledged by the reiterated declarations of their Bishops, and of their advocates in that House, to the voluntary system. (Hear, hear.) They had no reason to assume that those Rev. Gentlemen were insincere, and the Honourable Gentleman the Member for the city of Limerick (Mr. J. O'Connell) who was recognised in that House as the I organ of the Roman Catholic clergy in Ireland, when the question of religious endowment was raised, stood up in his place, and, with a consistency to be admired, declared again what he had previously affirmed, as to the advo cacy of the voluntary principle by the Roman Catholic clergy, and stated that their opinions on the subject were still unchanged.--(Hear, hear.) It was true it had been said by some persons that the spirit of disaffection in Ireland would be quieted and removed if the Government paid the priests, but he asked them, indepeadently.of other considerations, whether the advocates of the pi l ests," l " could think so meanly of them.—(He ar , h ear .) He might also add, with reference to this subject, that there were a great number of their fellow-subjects, not the least loyal, not the least peaceable and industrious,' who held that on a question of this kind, to add , a national endowment to that particular creed would be to com mit' a great national sin, and call down the judgment of Heaven.—(Cries of " Divide.") With regard to any interference with the Established Church, if he under stood Irish Members rightly, they would not hail with any satisfaction the result of an agitation to knock off the expenditure in their country of a sum of 700,000/. a year; and instead of this grant coming from the oonao lidated fund, and being sent over every year from the Imperial Treasury to Ireland, the result of the agita tion would be that 700,0001. a year less would be spent in Ireland, the odious church would be destroyed, and the country would be the poorer.—(Cries of " Divide.") Mr. GRAC2 would not at that late hour of the day occupy the time of the House, but as an Irish Member, he thought it right to come forward and declare his anxiety to see his country happy and prosperous, and the redress of her wrongs effected. He felt extremely unhappy at the present state of the country, and re gretted that the promises of relief which had been held ' out were not realised.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. GRATTAN rose amidst loud cries of divide. When silence was restored, the Hon. Gentleman said— I merely rise to make an apology to my countrymen for not speaking.—(Loud laughter.) The House then divided, when there appeared-- For the amendment 24 Against it Majority. —76 POOR-LAW UNION CHARGES (No. 2) BILL. On the motion of Mr. C. BULLER, the House went into Committee pro forma on this Bill. The Right Hog. • Gentleman stated that his object in moving that the Bill should go into Committee was, to propose the omission of the clause which had been inserted declaratory of the right of Irish pnupers to parochial relief in this country, after an industrial residence of five years. Since the in sertion of the clause he had ascertained that it was un necessary. Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL;said he should object to the clause being struck out. Mr. C. BULLER regretted exceedingly that it had ever been inserted. Its introduction into the Bill might tend to produce an impression that he had doubts u to the law as it at present stood,- whereas, in truth, he did not entertain any; and he believed that legal opinions to the effect that you might deny relief to Irish paupers who had been resident the same parish five years would be found to be ex ceedingly rare. He should be exceedingly grieved if any discussion were to create in that House the disposition upon which some boards of guardians seemed inclined to act, namely, a disposition to deprive the Irish poor of benefits which the law had undoubtedly intended for them; benefits which he would do his best to secure for them without legislation, in the next ses sion, and with legislation if he should find it necessary for the object. He believed that all the advantages of the law were as much intended for the Irish poor as for the English poor. Mr. S'ADLEIR said, that as very great doubts existed, and, as it was probable that during the next two or three years questions would frequently be raised, the sooner all doubts were removed as to the real state of the law, the better would it be for all concerned. Mr. GROGAN said he understood the Right Hon. Gentleman to intimate that this clause, originally intro duced by himself, was unnecessary, because having taken the best legal opinion on the subject, he felt satis fied that Irish paupers were irremovable after five years' residence.—(Hear, hear.) In this state of things the. Right Hon. Gentleman proposed to withdraw the clause; but, seeing that the Right Hon. Gentleman himself ad mitted that doubts had arisen, would it not be judicious to have an explanatory statement of the law which would make it impossible for boards of guardians here after to act on the supposition that they had the power of removal? Mr. C. BULLER did not believe that serious doubts were entertained upon the point. Certainly the opinion of one counsel, a gentleman of eminence, though not of the first authority in the law, had been given against the right of the Irish and Scotch to relief; and he under stood that in two or three cases that opinion had been acted upon. ,As regarded the opposition made to his proposal to withdraw the clause, he must say that the result of perseverance would be that a clause which he had almost despaired of carrying with the aid of Irish Members, those Members would have to carry with their own force, not only without assistance, but against his opposition. He could assure the House that he had not withdrawn the clause lightly. He believed that discus sion would do infinitely more harm than non-interfe rence with the law during the present session, and he did trust that, for the sake of those whose interest they wished to promote, Honourable Members would not raise a useless—a worse than useless discussion. Mr. MONSELL thought that Irish Members would best promote their object by not offering any direct op position to the course proposed. As both the Govern ment and the English Members generally would vote against it, it was perfectly clear that the clause would be negatived, and he feared that that might produce an in jurious effect upon boards of guardians, affording them a loophole for getting rid of the very onerous duty of supporting the Irish poor. Mr. CLE NIENTS did not understand how the Govern ment could oppose a clause which they had themselves introduced, whatever might be said of the anticipated opposition of English Members.—(Llean) Mr. GROGAN thought the position of Irish Members a most unfortunate one.—(Hear.) The clause had emanated, not from them, but from the Government, and the viestion was forced upon their consideration by the Right Hon. Gentleman himself. Yet the Right Hon. Gentleman then told the House that if this clause were brought forward by Irish Members he must oppose it. The clause was simply declaratory of the state of the law, and it was admitted that some boards of guar dians had acted upon an erroneous impression. Under the circumstances, considering that doubts had arisen, he could not imagine that the Government would offer any opposition to the clause. Mr. CHARLES BULLER said, that though the clause was introduced with good intentions, there had been a want of foresight in proposing it. As it had been said that he was pursuing his pr e sent course on account of the expected opposition of English Members, he must observe that he had received several complaints respecting the clause from variuus parts of the country, and that none of those com plaints were legitimate; the words of the clause being supposed to have an operation larger than he had in tended, or the words themselves would bear. It was not, perhaps, a legitimate o bj ect i on to the clause, but still it was an objection that it would have given rise to a very painful discussion respecting the removal of Irish paupers, and he thought it undesirable that such a dis cussion should take place. He did not wish to with draw the clause on account of any opposition which he anticipated; but one of the best friends of the Poor Removal Aet—one of those whose opinion upon, and interest in, that Act were least open to doubt—had come to him and said that it would be very unwise to raise the question by proposing a declaratory enact ment, when there were no such serious doubts as w render an enactment necessary ; adding, that as a friend to Irish paupers, he begged that the clause might be dropped, rather than there should be ant discussion upon it. He (Mr. C. Buller) assured the House that he proposed the withdrawal much more fro° a regard to the i nterest o f those who had complained o f the Poor Removal Act than from any fear of opposition; but if Hon. Gentlemen persevered in their opposition W what he proposed, the only course open was to move that the Charman do report progress. Mr. CLEMENTS was very anxious, as far as possible , to meet the views of the Right Hon. Gentleman, but be really thought that by consenting to the withdrawal of the clause he should - place himself in a false position. Mr. S. CRAWFORD sa id that Irish Members woul d certainly be placed in a very false position if they con' seated to the withdrawal of the clause on that occasion' and afterwards proposed to re-insert it. He thought it was right that the point should be further considered. Mr. C. BULLER having intimated that he should zios persevere in his proposal, The House resumed and the Cbairnaan reported pro' gross, the clause discuss e d s till rema i n i ng i n the B i l l. The House adjourned at half-past Seven. BIRTB.S. On the 26th inst., at Benningbrough-hall, the Viscountegi Down,of a son. On the 24th inst., at Bury St. Edmund's, Suffolk, Mrs. Rodwell, of a son. On the 26th inst., at Denmark-hill, Mrs. John Bouch, of daughter. On the 26th inst., at Little Oakley Rectory, Essex, the wir e of the Rev. G. Burmester, of a daughter. On the 26th inst., at the Vicarage, Wartling, S ufaix , the wife of the Rev. 1. Turner, of a daughter. On the 26th inst., at Ken sington - garden-terrace, IlY cle ‘ park, the wife of Dr. Markham, of a son. At Hythe Villa, New Finchley-road, St. John's-wood, ° Li the 27th inst., the wife of Captain Vetch, of a daugl te e r i On the 28th inst., at Cadogan-place, the wife of Rcuc' Synnot, Esq.; M.D., of a son. On the 26th inst., at Clifton, the lady of the Rev. G. AO strong, of a daughter. MAXIMO. Oa the 21st in s t., at Christchurch, St. Marylebene, Jan Simpson, Lieutenant R.N., to Mary Anne, youngest dangin.'" of T. Bradshaw, Esq., of Connaught-terrace, Hyde-paric,%„ On the 26th i nst., at S t. Chad, Frederick H. Herbert, lA/ of the Ben ga l A rt ill ery, to Emma, eldest daughter of • James, Esq., of Highfield, Warwickshire. o' On the 27th i nst., at St. M argaret ' s Church; Nathaniel Robbins, Esq.. late of the 2d Dragoon Guards, to 10 _, 4 youngest daughter of the R ev . Ed war d R epton, Pre b e nd' of Westminster. On the 27th inst., at Christ Church, Marylebons, Mr- Simpson, of Portman-pl ace , Ed geware - roa d , to El i za , s eoco daughter of Mr. Selby, of York -row, Kennington. DIED. At the Vicarage, Seighford, Staffordshire, on the 21st i 134.4 Rebecca Dorothy, wife of the Rev. J. Thompson. j, At Ardrossan, on the 25th inst:, Mrs. Mary L eg ge, or ive l , ‘ wife of Captain Charles H. R e id, R.N., o f Grange-hill, 4.• shire, aged 60. On the 26th inst., at Exete r . age d 71 , J o h n Gandy, Een second son of the late Rev. J o h n G an d y, v i car o f St. '— drew's, Plymouth. On the 26th inst., at St. John's-wood, Mrs. Curry, wider of the late J. Curry, Esq., aged 76. od At Hampstead, on the 27th i ns t., age d 84 , Eli za b e th, WI of the late W. Kilburn, Esq., of Wallington, Surrey -” of On the 27th inst., in London, Mrs. T o mlinson, sis' e the Lord Bishop of ibraltar. On the 27th inst., Rebecca, the wife of Mr. J . j;g.ohins °ll ' of East Hoathly, SusZex, aged 51. On the 28th inst., in Cambridge-street, Hyde-park , a t 41° advanced age, Miss Thesiger. a at London : Printed and P u bli s h e d b y MURDO Yo No- No. 112, Strand, P r i n t er , at Th e San Office, . - 0 Strand, in the Pre c i nc t o f t h e S avoy, i n the 'W:4lll' Middlesex, Monday, July 31, 1848. ~;'~L~7~N ~ ~ ~~ _ .~, Y ,:. LIABILITIES. Capital ... . . 67,900,000 00 Ditto of the new Branch Banks 23,350,000 00 Reserve fund ... 10,000,000 00 Ditto of the branch banks ... 2,980,650 14 Reserve-immobiliZ:re 4,000,000 00 Notes to bearer, in circulation ... 307,050,500 00 Ditto of the branch banks ... 69,023,075 00 Ditto to order (post-bills) ... 655,055 00 Account current with Treasury ... 12,197,246 00 Various accounts current 81,049,212 53 Ditto at branches 23,268.865 00 Bills payable at sight ... 2,357,000 00 Ditto in branches 1,432,464 00 Bills of the branch banks payable by the Bank ... 4,821,355 72 Ditto of the Bank payable by branches . 1,945,717 00 Dividends payable ... . . 1,204,990 75 Branch Bank of Algiers, sum not yet employed in Treasury Bonds 1,109,638 19 Discounts, diverse interests, &c. ... 739,935 30 Ditto branch bank ... ... 771,205 00 Re-discounts of the last six months ... 422,932 27 Ditto branch banks 642,105 00 Miscellaneous ... 482,081 97 617,434,037 97 Certificate confirmed, The Governor of the Bank, D'ARGOUT. ITALY. Letters from the :Piedmontese army of the 24th state that on the previous day General Asp with 25,000 men, came out from Verona, forced the position of Sona and Somma Campagna, and drove the Piedmontese from all the country be tween the Upper Adige and the Lake of Garda, and the plain of Verona and the Mincio. At the same time an Austrian force of t,OOO descended the Alontebeldo, and, after taking the heights of La Corona, ejected the Piedmontese from the Plateau of Rivoli. The beaten Sardinians, whose force was not one-fourth that of the enemy, retired opportunely, some to Peschiera, others across the Mincio, and a few to Villafranca. On the 24th General Asrau attempted to force the Mincio at Mouzanvano, and to establish a bridge at Salionza, but at the hour the courier left, he had not succeeded at either point. He proposed, it was said, descending to Vallegio, and trying to force the river at Borghetto, as the heights at hi:, the l nit e r f oo t on s pte i s d s e we of the river, command the right. The Tied er e ha d, o r d e r e therefore,d from ou defend the efe n d bridge, that impor tant paonrd. ta.:Lutepeeienrost point. of forcedthe a 2 t s m th state that the Austrians had b h e_ep s successful in all their operations. The Almelo and Ponti on the right bank b a an t p o az an zo d io a n t g S o a , l a i ii on gmail,—es at this side of it are occupied. The King, with 25,000 men, was at Villafranca. It was said he was marching towards Goito by one account, while another alleged that he was moving on Somma Campagna. The King's hesitation arose from the uncertainty which prevailed of the enemy's ulterior object, as it was still uncertain whether he meant to follow up his successes on the right of the Mincio, attack the posi tion of Goito, destroy the field-works and entrench ments made there by the Piedmontese, and then enter Mantua by La Graazie, or retire by the road now open to him to the Upper Adige, cross the river at Pon tone or Bussolargo, and march into Verona by the high road of the Tyrol, liberated by his late operations. The fortresses of Peschiera were closed even to the Piedmontese troops, and all those who defended the passage of the Mincio have retired in some disorder on Sonato, where they are to rally and be reformed. A perfect panic prevailed in the country on the right of the Mincio, so much so that all the visitors at De zerzano, on the Lake of Garda, 10 miles from Pes chiera, on the high road to Milan, fled in dismay on Monday night to Brescia. The Austrians had com mitted no excesses, and the cavalry that appeared at Pozzolongo on Tuesday morning, on alighting at the hotel, declared that they meant to pay for everything they asked for. It was reported in Paris yesterday that CHARLES ALBERT had attacked the Austrians at Somma Campagna, and completely defeated them, having taken several pieces of cannon and 6,000 prisoners.