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The King Was th;:s day pleased to confer the honour of Knight hood CaPtain Sam ue l W arren , o f th e R o y a l N av y, K n i g ht (; annander.oNle Royal Hanoverian Guelphic Order. B. A WHITEHALL, AUGUST 15. Russell The Ring has been pl ease d t o p resen t th e R ev . J o h n G arre t t count .. to the vicarage of N ewar k- u p on -T ren t, i n th e of Y , ottingham an d di ocese o f Y or k , vo id b y t h e res i gnat i on • °f t he Re'z. W a lt er Bl unt. The to - , ‘ ,lt 'ng has been pleased to present the Rev. David B. Mellis ;the cl,.erch and parish of Teoling, in the Presbytery of Dundee Id cou nty of Forfar, vacant by the transportation of the Rev. e ter 'Balfour to the church and parish of Clackrnannan. BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED. OHN SHTON, ironmaster, Langley-Field, Dawley, Salop. BANKRUPTS. 'WILL IAM HANKES, corn-dealer, Macclesfield, Chester, and Jnsp PH HANKES, corn-dealer, Chorlton-upon-Medlo c k, Lan -4,43ter. DANIEL EVANS, tailor, Newport, Monmouth. 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M em b er for She ffi eld (Mr. Buckingham) ; and mwm surp.riged to find it passed over in silence. UCKING HAM informed the Hon. Member that the b ow ' ol' " 4 " been disposed of before his arrival. He intended, " next Session, to introduce another to the same effect. kr 1 0 PUBLIC CHARITIES. T ILRS moved the House go into Committee on the b r 'e,eharities Bill. 10 WRING hoped the Bill would not be pressed on. notice • V ARBURTON gave the Hon. Member (Mr. Wilks) th e ch t a ,3 n i at should oppos e - the motion for the Speaker leaving Mr re as • 4 ' IL'KS hoped the Hon. Member would give some r adopting such a course. r * ARI3URTON said, had the worthy Alderman (Mr. bestc)d) been present, he should have at once proposed the rl°rlfirrient of the Committee to that day six months, but gene:l.l.oA it would be an uucourtcous proceeding in his ab- NV! I ' TOOKE declared that he had heard Mr. Alderman It say that h e did not w i s h to press thi s Bill.--( Hear.) t ee l ,as understood that the Motion for going into Commit- I ,ns Postponed till Thursday. p as Z ed P risons Regulation Bill was read a third time and • 7 1 , SPECIAL CONSTABLES' BILL. R er4 - ri Special C onsta bl es ' Bill went t h roug h C omm itt ee , th e orl ' ' "t t Was brou g ht u p by M r . BERNAL, and the Bill w a s e -ed to be read a third time to-morrow. ST. MARGARET'S RECTORY BILL. On the motion of Lord JOHN RUSSELL, the St. Mar ,,,llltret's Rectory Bill was read a secon d ti me , and ordered to be -cmunitted to-morrow. CHARITY COMMISSION BILL. ,a4Pe S OLICITOR -GENERAL brought up the Report Dill Charity Commission Bill, which was received, and the 4 ' i lt was ordered to be read a third time to-morrow. BANKRUPTS' ESTATE BILL. The SO LICITOR-GENERAL moved that the House tree to the Lords' amendments on this Bill. After some observations from Mr. Tooke, the Solicitor-Ge 1, Mr. Warburton, and Mr. Pr) me, el r ' . ' z WAR BUILTON proposed a verbal amendment to the On ,which was then put and agreed to. the , next clause b e i ng re ad, Ur. I°ol..{E would again repeat the objections he had acai'3 t° giving th e power o f fi ne an d imprisonm en t t o t wo tempt n al C:ommissioners, instead of referring the case of con- w- 4 t° tlve Court of Review, which being a superior Court inrr s ii ? t l ely to be influenced its adjudication by the feel the c. .tiose more immediately interested. He should take of the House upon the question, as he thought it an )4 r at ,t)!l on the lib er t y o f t h e subject. the pause ARBURTON differed from the Hon. Member as 7:would innovation on the liberty of the subject, Ai r , support the clause. ist :',7 ,:a b i e lt in' N‘ a r n lLDE thought some misapprehension b e ril ed l'Poo what really was a contempt of Court. It would 'wha t (I to st iruProper to limit the power of the Commissioners to Court -°' Of „ Place in the hearing of the Court. Contempt of hatti eq very aggravated nature might occur without the would b z lr 'g in the immediate neighbourhood of it, and it most unwise to limit the power of the Commis- M r , I cases. gr° with. 4 S observed that constructive contempts were u 41 c ti- o ° ,"'-u an evil, which should be met and suppressed. graet,Pt the re was not hi ng o bj ec tionable in the powers Tp 4e 0Y the clause. other clauses were then put and agreed to. oT ON NAGE ADMEASUREMENT BILL. e motio n of Mr. P. THOMPSON, the Tonnage Ad "'"rement Bill was read a third time and passed. Customsll4e. CUSTOMS ACTS. ih e L brought up the Report of the Committee Acts Bill. th TIMBER DUTIES BILL. thr o ,,„ 4 , m uliun of Mr. P. THOMPSON, this Bill went " 8 " ‘ - onwnittee, and was read a third time. Oa 1, SPIRIT LICENSES BILL. 1 .. c motion of F. BARING, this Bill was read a 1)., . r. tun; and ordered to be committed to-morrow. CLERK OF THE CROWN BILL. On the motion of Mr. BARING this Bill was committed. INSOLVENT DEBTORS' FUND BILL. On the motion of the same HON. GENTLEMAN this Bill was r ead a second time ; as was also the Exchequer Bills Bill. = FORGERIES (SCOTLAND) BILL. On the Motion of the LORD ADVOCATE this Bill was read a second time; as was also the Court of Exchequer (Scotland) Bill. - LARCENIES (IRELAND) BILL. On the motion that the Report be brought up, Mr. G. F . YOUNG rose and said he wished to put a ques tion to the President of the Board of Trade. He had en deavoured to be in the House when the Tonnage Admeasure tient Bill was read a third time, and had left the York Com 7nittee several times for that purpose. He bad missed it how ever, and he now wished to ask whether the Right Hon. Gen tleman had any objection to laying on the table the Report of the Committee on which this Bill was founded? r. P . T HOMPSON—The Report was already on the t able of the House. It bad been laid on the table last year, lard this Bill was the same as the one that had been postponed Myr. ear. YOUNG—Then will the Right Hon. Gentleman allow i t to be p r i nted ? From personal trial, he found it impossible to carry into effect the provisions of the Bill th a t h a d b een carried t h rough the House. he port, we believe, wa s or d ere d t o b e pr i nte d , an d t h e Report of the Larcenies (Ireland) Bill was brought up. SHERIFFS' (IRELAND) BILL. u Mr. O'LOGHLEN, on moving that the R e p or t b e b roug h t p. took occasion to refer to a certain clause in the Bill, meCh'ing compensati on (as we un d erstoo d) to t h e C hief Re membrancer, Mr. Blake. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman re ad a letter ; but from the low tone of voice in which ho . P° l, - . 0, we found it impossible to catch the meaning of it. We believe, however, it was a letter from Mr. Blake, declining to aceept of any compensation. tjThe CHANCELLOR o f t h e EXCHEQUER thought s iat the l etter was in the highest degree creditable to Mr. 11 2. ke, and it was gratifying to him to have that opportunity of so expressing his opinion. It got rid of a great difficulty In the way of the Bill, and would prevent inconvenience to the public service. ‘ _Lord MO RPETH said, that the intention expressed by f a o i r r l . ne ß r l l a y k e e x i p n r t e l s ti s s ed. bi . letter was precis e ly s i m il ar t o w h a t h e h a d .Mr. J ACKSON bore te s ti m o ny to t h e c h aracter, caps lities, and talents of Mr. Blake. CONSTABULARY FORCE.—IRELAND. MORPETH brought up the Report. 'no House then went into Committee on the Constabulary t erect in Ireland Bill. Co leuel PE RCEYAL could not help rising to express his uthni.raßli:fined approbatio n at t h e greater port i on of the details of th ' e l:At this declaration considerable surprise was manifested in "lilltenenees o f the Members bpth on the Ministerial and Opposition benches. An lion. Member on the latter, re minded the Speaker of what he had Just said. Colonel PERCEVAL—(after a pause)=Disapprohation I meant.—(Laughter.) I have made a k•ery great mistake, and and I do not wonder it the Noble Lord (Morpeth) looking at me so very hard.—(Loud laughter.) He should like to know on what grounds the Government at tempted to degrade the unpaid and independent magistracy of Ireland by depriving them of the power of selecting the police —a duty for which no men were more competent, being men of property, and interested in the peace and well-being of the country? Why should these men be set aside, and thht power transferred to some creature of the Lord Lieutenant? Ac cording to the present Bill, they were to have inspectors for each county, and separate paymasters. He admitted one-half of the expense of that was to be paid out of the consolidated fund, but the other half was to be paid by the county. Again, there was to be one inspector, not less than four sub•inspectors, and not less than six chief constables, or more thanlB. At present they had only four chief constables, and one inspector who acted as paymaster. Ile challenged the Noble Lord to state any ground for this measure, which would have the effect of in flicting double the present expence on all the counties in Ireland. In his opinion the Bill was absurd throughout ; the whole control was given to the Lord-Lieutenant, and he might exercise the capricious authority that was given him as he chose. There was an oath appended to the Bill, which he wished to know from the Noble Lord whether it was intended to operate in aid of that oppression which bad hitherto been exercised towards Orangemen, and whether all men belonging to Orange societies were to be called upon to take that oath before they entered into the police ? He wished to know whether that oath was intended as a trap to catch them, in order that they might be punished as the then at Ross were ? Lord MORPETH thought with the Hon. and 'Gallant Member, that second thoughts were generally best ; but he considered that the Hon. and Gallant Member had taken a most erroneous course when he altered his first impression in favour of the Bill. The Honourable and Gallant Member had asked whether his Majesty's Government intended by...this Bill to pass any slur upon the general body of the magMeacy and the police force in Ireland. He begged to assure the Hon. and Gallant Member that his Majesty's Government had no such intention or motive, nor had they brought for ward the Bill with any such design. He admitted the po lice force of Ireland to be on the whole a valuable institution, contributing largely to the public peace and welfare ; but there was a general want of control in its management, and there were many imperfections about it which, if brought un der strict control, would make it much more serviceable. With respect to the Magistrates, his Majesty's Government, in doing what they had done by the present Bill, were only following an example which in many counties had been sot by the Magistrates themselves, who had voluntarily resigned their power, believing that it would be exercised much more to the public good by the highest ani most responsible quarter—the Government of the country.—( Hear, hear.) It was well known that the constabulary force in Ireland was divided into four portions, according to the provinces, with out any head, and all the finance and internal arrangements were thrown upon the Under Secretary, who had duties enough otherwise to perform. It was for this reason that the Government proposed to appoint one Inspector General, re siding at Dublin Castle, instead of the four provincial Inspec tors General. Their salaries amounted to 5,4321., while that of the new Inspector General and his Deputy would be only 1,6001. It was also proposed to appoint an inspector_ for each county, and to entrust the duty of paymaster and store-keeper to a clerk, with a salary of 1001., but these salaries were all subject to the opinion of the House in Com mittee. It was not intended to interfere with the existing police force, and the Lord Lieutenant would have a power of increasing that force when occasion required it. He was opposed to any increase on the burdens of the people ; and it would be seen that the expense of tlig . proposed force would not exceed that of the present one.'llP-He estimated it thus. Under the contemplated plan, the salary of the In spector would be I,oool.—the Sub-Inspector, 600/,—lnspectors of Counties, 11,9001.—Thirty-two Paymasters and Clerks, 3,2ool.—Eighty Sub- Inspectors, 7,4001.—Tw0 hundred and fifty-six Chief Constables, 12,5001.—And besides this there would be a subsidiary force, whose pay would amount to about 1,6871. The whole forming a total of 41,200/. ; while the expense of the system as at present constituted was 44,2391. But the largest reduction, and that from which he hoped , to derive the most beneficial results, was from the Superannuatim Fund that be proposed to introduce.—( Hear, hear.) The Gallant Member (Colonel Perceval) had adverted to the oath proposed to be taken by the police-officers, and from the stress which he laid on the oath, it would appear that it had most excited his anger. It seemed to him (Lord M.) that the very words of the oath signified that it was not to have a retrospective tendency. The officer is to swear that he " does not now belong to, and will not join any secret or political society whatever." No one, therefore, could complain, as unless he was prepared to take the oath he need not present himself. If any Orangeman was at present an officer, he would have an opportunity of considering whether he should remain in the police or retire from it, but if he did not choose to leave such secret societies, he would be debarred from keeping his station in the police force.—( Cheers. And surely when the Noble and Gallant Member told them that there were few recruits for the army or the police that did not belong to secret or political societies, and when lie saw the hazarkl that these societies were to the peace and good-will that ought to prevail in Ireland—(Loud cheers)—surely it was time to look to the state of the Army.— ( Loud cheers. )—The police ought not to have a suspicious cha racter among those whose peace they were to - protect, or if they thought—no matter how erroneously—that they were leagued in societies contrary to their interests, and that they existed only to exert an injurious supremacy over them. Respecting the case of New Ross, the police were, dismissed from the service be cause they declined to answer questions which were put to them, and not because they ,belonged to Orange Lodges. They refused to answer questions that were put to them is the course of an enquiry which it was thought by the Govern ment to be incumbent on them to prosecute. He would not offer any further observations on the general character of the Bill, but there were certain points which he would be very ready to discuss at the proper time. Mr. F. SHAW contended that the effect of this Bill would be to vest immense power and patronage in the hands of the Irish Government, and to supersede the Magistracy of the country. He did not object to there being one Inspector to the whole police force, but he wished to make some observa tions respecting the second clause—that relating to County In spectors, which appeared to him to be a most important clause. They were to have Inspectors for every county, and these were to take forthwith the oath taken by Justices, and, there fore, to become Justices of the Peace. If this were so, dud they were to have salaried justices of the peace, these inspectors would virtually supersede the unpaid magistracy, and this introduced, in his opinion, a most impolitic principle. There would be no saving of expense, but even if it did, they would be obliged to purchase it at too dear a rate. Ile thought it a very dangerous and unconstitutional principle respecting the oath proposed to be takers. The Noble Lord had let out what had led to the adoption of that oath. It was to exclude Orangemen.—(Lord Morpeth—" All party men.") He did not think so. The Noble Lord had said that if an Orangeman were to present himself, he must be pre pared to leave all secret societies. Respecting the inquiry at New Ross, he thought the proceeding was illegal—it was not only contrary to the constitution but to the law. It seemed to him unconstitutional to oblige the police to clear themselves by what was called a voluntary affidavit. He thought that the system of persecution (for persecution lie would call it) car ried on by the Irish Government would not have the effect de sired.—( Hear, hear.) There was, he contended; on the part of the Government of Ireland a spirit of persecution carried on by a particular class. The tendency of this would be, and had been, to increase the very bode they were endeavouring to put down.—( Hear, hear, from Colonel Perceval.) Suppose a law was passed to exercise such authority over his Gallant Friend (Colonel Perceval), as to say to him, that if lie did not cease to be an Orangeman, he should not have a seat in that House—he was sure that his Gallant Friend had too much spirit to yield to such authority, and he could tell the Noble Lord, that the more he proceeded with persecution against these Societies, the more they would increase. He must, _at the same time, say, that he was opposed to these Societies, and he was opposed to this persecution, because it would lead to the establishment of such Societies. It was symptomatic of an unsound gate of society. He did not deny that these So cieties ought to be discouraged, but it was not possible to put them down by the means adopted by the Government.— ( Hear, hear.) In this case the oath proposed to be taken would not reach those whom it ought to be intended for. The ribbon-men would be able to swear that lie no longer be longed to any secret or illegal body, and yet substantially he would still belong to it. These parties had too well learnt the lesson that had been taught them. They knew too well how to evade all tests of this nature. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman opposite (Mr. O'Connell) had often boasted that he could drive a coach and six through an Act of Parliament, and did the Noble Lord think that these ribbon-men would not find advisers to show them how to evade this Act of Parliament. He did not see how the Bill could be made effective, for the fact was that the Orangemen called their society a religious society. It was useless to attempt to legislate for such a state of society as that in Ireland upon general principles. He could not but deprecate this measure, and he must say that since the Noble Lord bad administered the affairs of Ireland, he had done very little to obtain the confidence of the Irish gentry, whose Church he had taken away, and now sought to deprive them of their independence. Lord MORPETH, notwithstanding the sweeping. denun ciations of the Right Hon. Gentleman, admitted that it would be quite as well to have fewer ex officio Magistrates. Lord CLEMENTS made some observations respecting the mode of paying the Magistrates.. Lord MORPETH would ask his Noble Friend how he justified the people of England, Scotland, and Ireland being compelled to pay for the police of the metropolis ? Lord CL EME NT S—l did not justify it : I voted against it. An HON. MEMBER cn the Opposition side, whose name was unknown in the Gallery, opposed the Bill. Mr. R. PLUNKETT did not see any great objections to the Bill—get it into Committee, and then he had no doubt they would discuss it without any party feeling.—( Hear, hear.) The House then went into Committee upon the Bill. Colonel PE RCE VAL wanted to know whether any of tl-e four Inspectors-General were to be appointed to the new office. Lord MORPETH did not feel that lie should give any pros misoupon the subject. Colonel PERCEVAL—Then the Noble Lord does not care for the expense, for these men must have retiring al lowances. The first clause was agreed to. On clause 2 being proposed, Lord CLEMENTS ob,;cctEd to CIE , appointment 4 a 1-J M -;J. j/ / THE SUN, LONDON, MrSDAY, ALJGCSP 18, ISA. master. The county inspector might do the duty. lie had not much to do now. Lord NIORPETH found that the Inspectors had indeed too much to do, and therefore it was that they proposed to have a hard working clerk under him, who would also have enough to do—as he would be made storekeeper, and also barrack-master. He moved that the clause be omitted. Mr. WALKER thought that the clause was unnecessary, for he knew that in many cases the Inspectors had not their full time employed. He would have no objection to give the Inspector 401. for a clerk, but he must oppose the appoint ment of a new officer at 100/. He seconded the amendment. Mr. O'BRIEN opposed the Bill, as it would increase the taxation of the country. Mr. SHAW thought the Bill would be very useful, but he was afraid it would supersede the other magistracy of the Country. The salary must be adapted to the office, and he thought it ought not to be higher. Mr. S. RICE said in his county the Magistrates found that they could not go on without the assistance of a paid Magis trate, not to supersede them, but to assist and direa them upon difficult points. Mr. FRENCH objected to the increased expense which the Bill would put 'on the people, which they could ill afford. After some observations from Colonel PERCEVAL and Lord MOP,PETII, the clause, as amended, was agreed to. Clauses 3 and 4 were agreed to. Mr. O'BRIEN objected to the sth clause. After some few observations from Lord MORPETII which were inaudible in the gallery, the clause, with some few verbal amendments, was agreed to. On Clause 6th being read, Lord CLEMENTS did not think it necessary to have so many persons as were provided for in the Clause to be Chief Constables of Police. Mr. WALKER thought some alteration should be made in the Clause. What he (Mr. Walker) would propose was, that the Lord Lieutenant should have the power of appointing any number of second class chief constables, which, when taken with the number of Inspectors, shall not exceed the number of Baronies, or half Baronies in the county—with a proviso, that if the county shoald be placed under the provisions of the Peace Preservation Act, in such case the Lord Lieutenant may increase the number of Chief Constables pro lempore. Mr. JEPIISON thought even this number would be too great, and the expense would be almost ruinous to some counties. Lord MOR PET H—The Hon. Gentleman seemed to have out of his view altogether the discretion that was vested, by the Act, in the Lord Lieutenant. He would propose an addition to the clause, to the effect that the salary of every such chief constable shall not exceed 701. per annum. After a few words from Captain JONES, Lord CLEMENTS wislied that the number would be specified. Whatever the minimum number was, he should wish it to be inserted. The clause was then agreed to. On clause 7 being read, which empowers the Lord-Lieute nant to appoint any additional number of police constables oa an application from seven or more Magistrates of any county, Mr. WALKER proposed that the words should be inserted " having landed property .situate within such county of the yearly value of 300/. or upwards." This qualification would he of very great importance, as it would require the concur rence of a large landed proprietary before such an application could be addiessed. Mr. O'BRIEN had no objection to a qualification in point of property, but he would suggest, as an amendment, that such application should emanate from a majority of the Magistrates of the County assembled at any General or Special Sessions, such majority not to be less than seven. Captain JONES would press upon the Noble Lord to omit the clause altogether. Mr. O'L 0 G FILEN begged the House to recollect, that no addition could be made to the number of constables, except at a public meeting, and those who did ,not attend the meeting had no right to complain. After a short conversation, in which several Members joined, Mr. RUTH VE N considered that Magistrates under the directions of absentees, the most objectionable Magistrates in Ireland. He believed that a great many of them. in the discharge of their duties, only considered the interest of these who were seldom, if ever, in Ireland. In his opi nion, if the discretion were not left in the Lord Lieutenant, it would be much better not to pass the Bill at all. After some observations from Mr. WALKER and Colonel PERCEVAL, the amendment was withdrawn, and the clause was agred to with some verbal amendments. On clause 8 being proposed to stand part of tha Bill, Mr. F. FRENCH objected to the clause. Lord MORPETH thought the clause would be productive of very great advantages. • Lord CLEMENTS supported the clause. Colonel PE RC EVA L thought it was hard, when a system was in existence that was so well constructed, and had done so much good for the country, that it should be altered without showing any good cause. He did not see why the House should take away from the Magistrates the power of recom mending those persons they might think proper. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER observed that the magistrates themselves had considered that it was not right that the appointment should be in themselves, as they felt convinced if it was, a species of favouritism would be exercised ; they, therefore, at their first meeting placed the appointment in the hands of the Government. The consequence of the new arrangement would be that these men Would be much more cautious how they acted. They would feel' that they were not appointed by Lord so and so, or Mr. so and so, who would carry them through thick and thin, and protect them in any impropriety of conduct.—( Loud cries of " Hear.") For these reasons he thought no objection could be fairly urged against the clause. Mr. R UTHVEN was of opinion that the more they were remos el from local sources of appointment the better. He did not like to hear unqualified praise lavished upon this body, al though he admitted that in some instances they had done their duty properly and fairly. But when removed from the county in which they were brought up, they were always better con ducted. Col. PERCEVAL thought some explanation should be given by the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) of the sweeping charge he had made against the police force. • The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER felt per fectly justified in the statement he had made relative to the impolicy of local appointments in that body.—( Hear.) Mr. F. FRENCH, in answer to the assertion that the peace preservation force was more respectable than the re gular constabulary, would state that snob was by no means the ease .._( Hear, hear.) The former had been guilty of many acts of insubordination and misconduct, which could not fairly be charged upon the latter. After a few words from Mr. WALKER and Mr. VEsEY, The clause was agreed to, as was also clause 9. On clause 10 being read, which gives the Lord Lieutenant the power of incorporating the peace preservation force with the constabulary. Sir R. .FERGUSON (as we understood him) feared that the tendency of this clause would be to thiw a very great additional expense upon the counties. Mr. O'BRIEN thought it was one of the most useful clauses in the Bill. Mr. WYSE also approved the clause. Mr. F. FRENC H agreed with the Hon Member for Lon donderry, that the Clouse would tend to encrease the expense upon the public. Its tendency would be to render the peace preservation force, which was only appointed to meet emcr genices, a permanent force. Clauses 10 and 11 were agreed to. On ause 12 being proposed, Lo , CLEMENTS moved an amendment to give the con stables' power of removing nuisances on the public roads. Colonpl PERCE VA L hoped the Noble Lord would per severe in his motion. It was a monstrous thing that now when the police constables saw a gross nuisance on the highway they were without the power of removing it. Mr. SPRING RICE opposed the amendment, upon the ground that.if you give them such a power, where part of the the penalty for a nuisance went to the informer, the police would soon find out that it was a much more profitable matter to seize pigs, &c., than to attempt to preserve the peace. Lord MOR PET H had no objection to insert a few words directing the rules and regulations to be sent to the Clerk of the Peace for the information of the Magistrates, who would thereby know what was the rule upon such a subject. The clause was agreed to as amended by Lord Morpeth. _ _ On clause 13 being put, Colonel PERCEVAL wished to know from the Noble Lord what was the animus of this oath. He knew there were many who had been Orangemen now in the amry of the polka. he wished to know what would be done with those who said they had been Orangemen, but would not act as such while in the service? Lord MORPETH—AII he propo;ed was to take care ; that when the oath was tendered, the person offering to take it should declare that he did not then belong to, nor would he join or belong to, any secret or political society whatever. Mr. O'LOGHLIN could assure the Hon. and Gallant Member that the gentleman who conducted this ,inquiry was incapable of doing anything illegal. He challenged the Hon. and Gallant Officer to bring forward any charge against him. Colonel PERCIVAL accepted the challenge of the Hon. and Learned Member, and gave notice that he would move that a copy of the Report, and the evidence taken on the in quiry, be laid on the table. Mr. ROMAYNE thought this the most valuable clause in the Bill. He hoped that a similar . oath would be extended to all other species of individuals who held rank or Commission under the Government of Ireland, and to Justices of the Peace also. _ The Clause was then agreed to, as was also Clause 14. On clause 15 being pet, M. VE SE Y rose to move as an amendment, that in line 19 after the word 'appointed' the following words be inserted," as recommended by the Magistrates at the Quarter Sessions." He thought th e recommen d at i on oug ht t o c o m e from the Ma gistrates, as th e y were chiefly concerned in the preservation of the peace. Lord - MORPETH objected to the amendment foQbe same reason that he had objacted to the previous amendment. Co!onel PE RCE VAL thought the- Mar,:i stratcs ought to have the powei of approv a l of men in their own county as they should think fit to be appointed. c z a is l itt l l ! .t a c t js e i d kc uc t oglb b tse. i ri j , I d oils , Lord MORPETH t h oug h t th e e ff ec t of the clause was not t O o N tav tl e io g u r g e l a it t e t tr h e e e r t e . Cornmendation of thc Ma.: but greatly bcneficigl to c ounties. - Strange - I.s were 6.0. ordered to withdraw. ;Ind thcr Gallery was cleared for a division, but none took place, and the original clause was agreed to. (LEFT SITTING.) HOUSE OF LORDS. The VICE-CHANCELLOR, took his scat on the Woolsack a few minutes before Five o'clock. ORANGE LODGES. A Message from the House of Commons brought up a Re solution of the Committee on Orange Lodges, summoning the attendance of the Duke of Gordon and Lord Kenyon be fore them, to give evidence on the nature and extent of Orange Lodges in Great Britain and the Colonies. Mr. Sergeant PERRIN and others brought up the Irish Cor poration Reform Bill, Exchequer Courts in Ireland Bill, and several other Bills. The Tea Duties Bill was read a third time and passed. Several private Bills were passed forward a step. The Duke of RICHMOND moved the second reading. of the abolition of Unnecessary Oaths Bill, which was ordered to be committed to-morrow. The Marquis of WESTMINSTER presented petitions from Shaftesbury and Chester in favour of the Corporation Reform Bill, which his Lordship observed was so mutilated now that it was doubtful whether it could reach the other House.:--( Hear and laughter from Lord Kenyon and others.) Lord FARNHAM presented several petitions from Dublin and other places in Ireland against the Irish Church Bill. The Marquis of WESTMEATH complained that several. Returns Which he had moved for, had not been made up and produced. Lord RADNOR brought up the Report of the Limitation of Polls Bill, which is to be read a third time on Thursday. Lord MELBOURNE presented a petition from the bo rough of Gateshead, praying that certain rights might be pre served to them. MESSAGE FROM THE HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL and others brought up the con sent of the House of Commons to certain Amendments of the Bankruptcy Est*te Bill. Lord RODEN presented several petitions from Ireland against the Irish Tithe Bill. Lord MELBOURNE presented several petitions in favour of the Corporation Reform Bill. Lord BROUG HAM presented a petition from Oswestry, praying that the Bill might be passed without mutilation, but it was already mangled into ,ten thousand pieces. Also a petition from Truro, to the same effect. Lord ELLENBO RouG II said the property of Oswestry Corporation consisted of 2.51. a-year, which was expended on the Conitabulary Force. Lord BROUGHAM observed that a good deal might be said on that subject, but at present - he would not detain the House. The arri of DEVON presented a petition from Exeter against the Corporation Reform Bill. The Marquis of WESTMINSTER wished to know whe ther this petition was agreed to at a public or a hole and corner meeting. Lord BROUGHAM said, that if it had been agreed to at a public meeting, it was a great curiosity. The Duke of WELLINGTON rose and said, that he could treat the Noble and Learned Lord to such a petition, for he had one from Hastings agreed to at a public meeting, and against the Bill.—( Hear, and laughter.) Lord BROUGHAM observed that one curiosity sometimes brought forwards another, and the Noble Duke, as a collector of curiosities, bad been diligent and fortunate enough to find one of this kind; but he feared the less its character was inquired into the better, for if it were secured, like Cornelius Scriblerius's shield, it would turn out to be nothing but an old candlestick.—( Laughter.) On the Order of the Day for bring up the Report on the Staff Militia Bill being read, Lord WESTMORELAND protested against the mea sure, and entreated the Noble Viscount (Lord Melbourne) not to press it. The further discussion was postponed until to morrow. Lord BUTE presented a Petition from Argyle in support of the Church. Lord MELBOURNE brought up the Peace Preservation in Ireland Bill, which was read a ffrst time, and ordered to be read a second time on Monday. Lord BROUGHAM gave notice, that he should propose an amendment to give certain powers to the Grand Jury. It was subsequently agreed that the Bill should be read a second time to-morrow. The House then went into Committee on the Corporation Reform Bill, the Earl of SHAFTESBURY in the Chair. . The Committee resumed at clause 35. Lord LYNDHURST rose to propose an amendment to negative the clause which limits the existence of the office of the present borough Magistrates to the Ist of May, 1836, and no longer. (LEFT SPEAKING.) • IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS, Auousr 14. The SPEAKER took the Chair shortly before four o'clock. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. Lord JOHN RUSSELL had a Resolution to propose, on which he would take the sense of the House. He would cot propose it then, but the object of it was, that when the House met at twelve o'clock to-morrow, they should go on with the Orders of the Day. TIMBER DUTIES. Mr. ROBINSON gave notice that to-morrow he would move that the evidence taken before the Timber Duties Com mittee be printed, as it had been already laid on the table of the House. _ . _ NEWSPAPERS. Mr. BUCKINGHAM gave notice that on Friday next he should move, that from and after the first day of January, 1836, it should be lawful to publish any newspaper with a duty of one quarter of its price, and that they should be transmitted all over the kingdom. Lord JOHN RUSSELL brought in ,a Bill for the pur pose of making one of the prebends of-St. Peter's, West minster, subservient to the wants of St. Margaret's, West minster. Captain PEC HELL begged to ask the Noble Lord (J. Russell) whether an opportunity would be afforded himself and other Hon: Members to present the petitions of which he had given notice. - Lord J. RUSSELL made an observation which was in audible. _ _ CUSTOMS' DUTIES. The Order of the Day having been read, the House went into Committee on this Bill. On the clause for reducing the duty on East India CoEfe.e being put— Mr. EWART hoped that the duties on East India sugar would be equalised in the next session of Parlia ment. The subject of pepper was also one to which he wished to call the attention of his Majesty's Government. Mr. THORNLEY and Mr. PE ASE also expressed a hope that the duties would be equalized ; and The clause was then put and agreed to. The other clauSes were then agreed to, and the House resumed• • GERMAN CONFEDERATION. Mr. ROBINSON, in rising to bring forward the Motion of which he had given notice, relative to the German Commercial Confederation, would detain the House as short a time as possible. Some few years ago a confederation of such a nature was formed that he thought would be so detrimental to the interests of the commerce, and of the trade of the country, that, as a mer chant, he would have felt himself wanting in his duty had he not brought the question before the House in the present session. Prussia had already got so many States to join in the confede racy, as to amount to millions of souls, and extending over an extent of 182,000 German miles. She had also reserved to herself a power to increase the duties to such amount as she, pleased.—(Lear, hear.) This was too great a power —for the uniform Tariff was to be collected upon the frontiers of the union. It was well known to the Noble Lord that under the guise of commercial relations Prussia was aiming a blow at this country—she was alarmed at our intimate alli ance with France, Spain, and Portugal, and not daring to show a hostile feeling against such an alliance, she took these insi dious but sure means to accomplish her purpose. She was evidently trying to force us to abolish our Corn Laws and Timber Duties.—( Loud cheers from several Hon. Members.) Would it not be better to make an advantageous bargain with Prussia before shebecame so strong as to do that she bad in view? Let the House consider the course they were pursuing. When Prussia saw that she had succeeded in getting us to relax our timber duties, she would then look for a repeal of the Corn Laws.—( Hear, hear, hear.) He only wished that -during the recess the Noble Lord (Palmerston) would turn his attention to this subject, and see that we got some equivalent for altering our timber duties and corn laws. Ho bad intended to move for a copy of the Prussia Tariff, but the Noble Lord might say it was not within his scope to produce it. He knew very well what it was ; it abolished all internal duties in the States of the Union, to have one Custom-house, and that this should be the Prussian tariff both present and future. If this system were carried into effect, the consequence would be that the only trade we should carry on with the German Union would be by means of smuggling. Although he should be sorry to say the Government of Prussia was not in accordance with the Government of this country, he should be sorry to see her commercial transactions under the direction of Russia. He would make commercial treaties with States of reciprocal advantage to all the States. He was afraid, in consequence of what had been stated by the Noble Lord, that it had gone forth abroad that the country was determined to pursue that course which had been miscalled free trade. All he wished was, to press upon the Government the necessity of doing every thing in their power to preserve the commerce of the country. He was anxious to obtain from the Noble Lord some explanation as to the course intended to be pursued by the Government. After a few observations respecting the commercial treaty with Portugal, which were very indistinctly heard in the gal lery, the Hon. Gentleman concluded by proposing that a copy of the commercial treaty between Prussia and the other con federate States of Germany be laid on the table. Visc oun t PALMERSTON did not intend to - cast any blame on the lion. Gentleman for calling the attention of Parliament to the subject. It was natural, taking so warm an interest as he did in commercial affairs, and so deeply interested in them as he was, that he should be in some degree anxious on this subject. He could assure the lion. Gentleman that the Government had not been insensible to the proceedings of Prussia, but had anxiously looked to see how far the conduct of that State was likely to be preju , dieieleo the interests of this country. This, however, was not the first commercial union that had existed between the German States. Many years ago such a confederation c:iisted le!wten - the northern • StO:q of Germany, and also one between the southern States. The system on whim ilieSe confederations *ere founded was, that there should be one system of Custom-house fegtilations for all the States. That was, that the goods which had paid ddty on entering into one of these countries should not be charged with other ddties do being taken into another of the States. They naturally adopted a sys tem of this kind for the purpose of commercial convenience. He could not see that it followed from the mere existence of these confederations, that it originated in a spirit of political hos tility to this country, or even of commercial hostility. The country bad no right, on general principles, to object to such unions of States. He repeated, England had no right to step out of the ordinary course of proceeding in consequence of the existence of these compacts between indepenient States. The Hon. Gentleman said that one of the objects of Prussia, in entering into this confederacy with other States, was to com pel this country to alter and relax the prohibitory duties against foreign corn and timber. Whatever might be the motives of Prussia, this certainly could not operate on the other German States so as to induce them to join in the union, for they did not export corn or timber. He did not believe that the pre sent arrangement had been productive of any advantage to the manufacturers of Prussia. Possibly, however, the manufac turers of Saxony benefited by it ; but Prussia, so far from being a gainer, was a considerable loser. With respect to the course to be adopted, he would only observe that matters were not sufficiently ripe to take any decided steps. He was at present unable to say what had been the effect of these ar rangements on English commerce, or what steps it might be expedient to take. In all these matters, he need hardly say, that the promotion of what appeared to be the best interests of the country would be the guide he should pursue. He was satisfied that the strict adoption of the principle of reciprocity would be found to be the best course that could be pursued. With respect to the negociations with Portugal, it was only necessary for him to observe, that the subject would occupy the anxious ttention of his Right Hon. Friend the President of the Bo - of Trade and himself. Mr. . F. YOUNG recommended that negociations should be opened with each country separately with regard to its trade. Those who expected that England would be made the workshop cf the world by forcing free trade on other na tians, would find themselves egregiously deceived. He was glad that his Hon. Friend had brought forward the subject ; but the reply of the Noble Lord had been any thing but satisfactory. After a few observatiens from Mr. EWA RT, which were not heard in the Gallery, Sir J. R. RE ID said that he entirely concurred with his Hon. Friend the Member for Worcester in the view he had taken of the subject, and thought that it deserved the serious attention of the Legislature and the Government. Mr. P. THOM SON did not see that because foreigners pursued an unwise system, we should persist in a system equally unwise. It appeared to him that it would be very inexpedient for this country to purchase its commodities at a dearer market; because the country in which they could be ob tained cheaper would nct adopt our .more liberal principles of commerce ; such .a course as that must have the effect of weak:ming the resources of our own industry, and depriving us of the means of competing with other countries in the mar Lets for manufactured articles.—( Hear, hear.) After a few weeds from Mr. A. CflA PM ;N, Mr. ROBINSON consented to withdraw his motion. THAMES TUNNEL. M. WALTER said he wished to ask the Right Hon. Gen ;eman a question relative to a motion of his which had stood upon the paper foe several days past. What he desired to know was, whether the Right Hon. Gentleman would under take that no further sum should be advanced by his Majesty's Government towards the Thames Tunnel undertaking till next session. If the Right Hon. Gentleman would enter into such an understanding with him, he would defer his me till next session ; but—if the Right Hon. Gentleman declined the arrangement he proposed—he should feel it to be his duty to make his motion to-ntorroT, by way of amendment, upon the motion for taking into consideration the Orders of the Day. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, said it rvis quite impossible for him to accede to chat the Hon. Gentle man had just proposed. To allow the circumstance of a mo tion having been merely entered upon the order-book, there having been no discussion upon it by which the sense of the House could be arrived at, to interrupt the progrus of the public business, which would be to establish the principle that any motion of which only notice had been given might inter fere with the most important business of the country. He might engage to this extent—that due care should be taken that there should be no further grant without such a satisfac tory Report having been laid before him, with regard to the expenditure which had taken place, as well as to the course which was to be pursued in future, as would enable him to justify whatever proceeding he might recommend.— (Hear, hear.) He was aware that this was a matter which required great consideration. The amount to be granted was a large sum of money ; and the Honourable Member might be sure that no one could have a stronger per sonal interest than himself in seeing that the money was not expended improperly, or that the grant was not made in a manner such as would not enable him to present to Parliament a satisfactory statement on the subject. He was prepared to say, with regard to the motion, that he would be the last in the world to resist it, if it could be shown that there existed any ground for a Parliamentary inquiry. He was quite willing that any acts of his, or of the Government, should be made the subject of investigation; but if the motion were only to inquire into the circumstances under which an Act of Parlia ment had been passed, that appeared to him not to be such an object as would warrant the House in granting an investiga tion.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. WALTER then gave notice, " That to=morrow, on the Order of the Day being moved, be should make his motion." The SPEAKER threw out, as a suggestion, the great de lay it would occasion to the business of the Session, if amend ments were proposed on the Order of the Day being moved. MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS (IRELAND) BILL. Lord M 0 R PETH moved the third reading of the Munici pal Corporations ( Ireland) Bill. Mr. SINCLAIR objected to the Bill, which he described as an unwarrantable concession to the Hon. and Learned Member for Dublin. They might as well enact that the mayor and other corporate officers should march out of the towns ropes round their necks, and lay their keys at the Hon. and Learned Gentleman's feet.—(Cries of " Oh, oh.") He was glad that there existed another assembly to which measures of this description must be submitted..—( Order, order.) Being much attached to the Protestant religion, he could not consent to any measure that he considered adverse to its interest. fie knew that it was fruitless to oppose the Bill on the present occasion ; therefore he should content himself with entering his protest against, it. Mr. O' CON NE LL said he bad heard that in Scotland there existed a hallucination of the mind called second sight. It appeared to him that the Hon. Gentleman opposite must be labouring under some such hallucination. His imagination seemed to run away with him—he beheld a giant in every wind mill. The Bill did not relate to religion ; its good quality was, that it did not inquire into creeds ; and every body who lived under a municipal government exercised his share in its appointment. The Bill was admirably adapted to the present state of Society in. Ireland. It gave to the people the prac tical power of interfering with their own concerns.—( Hear, hear, hear.) That there were great abuses in the Corporations could not be denied. And if the Hon. Gentleman connected the Protestant religion with the Corporations, he connected it with those abuses. He, instead of being its friend, was the greatest enemy of the Protestant religion who connected it with the peculations and abuses which prevailed in the distri bution of the corporate funds. Abuse was inseparable from monopoly ; the moment a man was made a monopolist, he was made a rogue.—( Hear, and a laugh.) As to the poor, the only power of which the Bill would deprive them, was the power of selling their votes once in seven years. The lion. Gentleman opposite surely would not connect that with the in terests of the Protestant religion. The further progress of the Bill had been alluded to by the Hon. Gentleman ; but he must say that he was not apprehensive of any attempt being made to create a property qualification for common-councilmen, because that would more effectually exclude the present Cor porators than any other provision. In one guild in Ireland, consisting of thirty, there were eighteen out of the number who had passed through the Insolvent Debtors' Court. Ile would give them one example of the exclusive bodies in Ireland :—ln Cork, 300 individuals governed a population consisting of 120,000, and had at their command a revenue amounting to 70,0001. a-year. Mr. KIRK protested against the measure. After a few words from Dr. BALDWIN and Mr. BORTHWICK, Mr. SINCLAIR explained. He said he bad nut connected the Protestant religion with the corporate abuses ; he admit ted the existence of abuses, but contended that this measure did not remove them in the best way. The Bill was read a third time and passed. CERTIORARI BILL. On the motion of Lord MORPETH, this Bill was read a second time. _ _ _ The Hull Merchant Seamen's Fund Bill was read a third time and pa'ssed. CONSTABULARY FORCE (IRELAND). On the motion of Lord MORPIi',TH, this Bill was com mitted, and resolutions for granting the salaries and expenses were agreed to. CLERK OF THE CROWN BILL. This Bill, on the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, was read a second time. Several Bills were then forwarded a stage. QUALIFICATION OF MEMBERS BILL. Mr. HUME moved the further consideration of the Re port of this Bill, and said that its object was to extend the same principle upon this subject •to England, Ireland, and Scotland. The absurdity of a pecuniary qualification, still more of one of a landed nature, was evident ; some of the worst scamps in the country were men of property. Its in utility was also equally obvious, from the eva. , ions which were constantly practised of the existing law. He hoped that his Majesty's 'Ministers would support the measure, and remove 50011 a mockery from our Statute-book. Even if the House were disposed to keep up the qualification, they ought surely to extend it to all kinds of property, net confine 'it simply, to landed property. Lord JOHN RUSSELL agreed fully that the present system of qualification was oftentimes injurious, but was not prepared at once to say that at this period of the session, and in the present State of the House, so many Members being absent who might be desirous to take part in the discussion of the subject, they ought at once to pass such a measure as the present, doing away with all qualification whatsoever— or even a measure admitting a qualification of other kinds of Property. • He should, therefore, wish that the proposed Bill should not proceed fi,rtta After a few words . from Colonel SILITHORP, Mr. EWART said that he ccutsiderod the principle of the Bill a sound one. Mr. WARBURTON was - glad that the Noble Lord aid , ot oppose the principle of the measure, and hoped that his lli t s Friend," would c om p r i se i n it some provision abo ifor declarati on requ i re d o f M em b ers a for th e d escr i pt i on w hi c h h e was the bound to give in or his qualificati:Zl at the time of election. Fh ir 7t r i 'i m nle necess.. of election, an , Mr. ROBINSON was not willing to übe.ndon all pecuniary qualification. Mr. BERNAL said that it was impossible to retain the present law upon this subject for ten years longer. Sir R. INGLIS observed that many of the se-called eva sions of the existing . law were not practically such. Mr. O'CONNELL supported the principle of the Bill, as did also Mr. PEASE and Mr. MARK PHILIPS. Mr. HUME then withdrew the Bill, stating that he had in nowise altered his opinion on the principle of it. LIGHT HOUSES BILL. Mr. FIUME moved the withdrawal of this Bill for the pre- Sent session. After a short conversation the motion was agreed to. SHERIFFS (IRELAND) BILL. On the motion of Mr. O'LOGHLEN, the House resolved itself into Committee on this Bill. Mr. WARBURTON proposed an amendment, to the ef fect (as we understood) that " The Chief Remembrancer and Second Remembrancer in the Court of Chancery in Ireland should not be allowed to.have a seat in that House." The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER observed that there was an Act already in existence, by which he be lieved that the object of the amendment of the Hon. Member for Bridport would be answered. Mr. O'CONNELL expressed himself favourable to tie principle of excluding judicial functionaries from seats in that House, but was opposed to legislating against an in dividual. After some further discussion, the Committee divided:— For the Amendment Against it Majority The Bill then went through the Committee, and the House having resumed, the Report was ordered to be received to morrow. MI IMIN BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. Lord J. RUSSELL moved that the Speaker should take the chair at 12 o'clock each day during the remainder of the Session, with a view to facilitate the public business. Mr. HUME said that only a few days ago the understand ing was that Motions should not have precedence of the Order of the Day, and now the Noble Lord proposed a different arrangement. He thought it would be most desirable that the House should know distinctly what course was intended to be pursued, as there were several Motions still upon the books, and the Hon. Members in whose name they stood would most likely consider it a hardship if they were obliged to relinquish them in consequence of the Noble Lord's proposition. Lord J. RUSSELL said, that his only object in bringing forward the motion was to expedite the business before the House, and he conceived, that it would be more desirable, especially at this period of the year, to meet at /2 o'clock each day, and sit until 9 or 10 at night, than to meet at 12, rise at 3, and sit again at 5, with the chanc m of sitting until after midnight. The motion was then agreed to. NEW HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT. Mr. HAWES rose, in pursuance of his notice, to call the attention of the House to the resolutions respecting the re building of the Houses of Parliament. We understood the lion. Member to propose three resolutions ; the first was to ex tend the time for the reception of plans to the Ist of January, 183 G. So many eminent men were desirous of entering into tile competitiurr, that it was utterly impossible to expect that the plans should be furnished by the time at present pre scribed. He had been assured by one architect of reputation, that the joint industry of himself and all his assistants must be fully exerted to produce the necessary plans by 'the period which he (Mr. Hawes) proposed; and-that the exten sion of the present period was the more indispensable, as the ground plan which bed been published was inadequate and in correct. The second resolution (a resolution to which, after what bad fallen on a former occasion from the Right Hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer, he anticipated no objection) was that the ruins of St. Stephen's Chapel should at least not be removed until a decision had been come to respecting the plans. The third resolution was that, in order to secure for the public the greatest possible chance that the best plan should be selected, the different plans should be exhibited to public view for a certain period before any decision was made re specting them. The Hon. Gentleman concluded by moving his first resolution. The CHANCELLORof the EXCHEQUER (as we un derstood the Right Hon. Gentleman) had no objection to the first resolution. As to the ruins, he conceived that it would be very unjustifiable to preserve them if their removal was ne cessary for the public convenience. There could be no doubt but that artists of experience could do more in one month than a younger artist could in three. As it was, artists would have four months for the preparation of their designs, which he thought sufficient time. From information he had obtained on the subject, he was satisfied that the last proposition was altogether impracticable. After a few words.from Mr. SHAW, Mr. HAWES withdrew the second resolution, and tl.c first and third were put and negatived. POST OFFICE. Mr. WALLACE moved for a series of Returns re"ative to the management of the Post-office. Mr. F. MAULE inquired whether the Hon. Gentleman had given notice of his motion? Mr. WALLACE said he had, and had been assured that there would be no opposition.—Ordered. GREAT YARMOUTH. Mr. TANCRED presented a petition from W. Parker, of Great Yarmouth, praying for payment of his expenses before the Yarmouth Committee. . Dr. BOWRING then rose to move, as a public dtvy, that ell the parties engaged in that prosecution Le paid their ex penses from the Treasury. Mr. SHAW thought that as the motion proposed by tho Hon. Member was different from that of which he had given notice, he should not press it in so thin a House. Dr. BOWRING said that the variance was very trifling. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER. said that he was prepared to support the motion. The public having derived the advantage of the inquiry were bound to pay the expenses of the witnesses, and the Treasury were quite ready to do that which was right ; although, at the same time, he must observe that parties instituting such inquiries should be told that they did so on their own risk and responsibity. Dr. NICHOLL did net think the motion at nil necessary. Mr. HUME supported the motion, considering that it would be unjust to throw the expense of an inquiry which was for the benefit of the nubile on any private individual. Mr. BULLEIt considered that assenting to . the motion would be establishing a bad principle. Mr. C. PELHAII feared that azreeing to such . a motion would only be opening the door to that which would be unfair. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER wished the matter to be postponed in order to give him an opportunity of looking into the subject. After some furthar observations, Dr. BOWRING consented to postpone the further consideration of the motion until Thurs day. SUFFERERS AT DOMINICA. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER gave no tice that he should to-morrow move tint the House du resolve it,eif into Committee for the purpose of enabhog him to bring forward a resolution for granting a sum of money for the relief of the sufferers by the late hurricane at Dominica. UNSTAMPED NEWSPAPERS. Mr. HUME said that, as the Right Hon. Gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer had not in his budget announced any intention _to repeal the duty on Newspaper Stamps, he felt it his duty to bring forward the motion of which he had given notice, for leave to bring in a Bill to repeal the statute of the Gth of George 111., c. 4, relating to newspaper stamps, pamphlets, &e. Mr. WAK LE Y supported the motion. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER opposed the motion, and said that if the revenue was to be. preserved, he was bound to protect it. He was quite willing to discuss the whole subject in the most frendiy spirit, but at present he could not consent to the Hon. Gentleman's motion. Mr. C. BULLER. said that the infractions of the law which had taken piace proved that it was quite hopeless to expect that it could ever be enforced. He hoped, therefore, his Hon. Friend would persevere in expunging from the sta tute book an enactment which was a disgrace to it. Mr. C. PELHAM did not think the poor could be bene fitted in any way by reading newspapers. The CHANCELLOR - of the EXCHEQUO trusted that the Hon. Member for Middlesex would not PMeye.re in his motion, as he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) meant to bring in a Bill relating to the stamp duties on Friday, when he should be prepared to enter into the subject. Mr. HLTME said that under such circumstances ho should withdraw his motion. After some further conversation, in which Mr. Hawes, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and Mr. C. Buller took part, leave was given to withdraw the motion. GREAT YARMOUTH. Mr. PEA moved for the production of copies of the minutes and resolutions of the Select Committee on the Great Yarmouth bribery. He did this to show that the Committee had acted fairly and honourably.—Agreed to. Lord MORPETH moved for leave to bring in a Bill for the better regulation of the police in Dublin. Mr. Sergeant JACKSON thought that before such a Bill was brought in,' the House should know something of its details. ---_____ Leave was given to bring in the Bill. The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, ard the House adjourned at Twelve o'Clock. HOUSE OF LORDS, AUGUST 17. - - - The VICE-CHANCELLOR took his scat on the Woolsack, a few minutes before five o'clock. BILL FOR THE ABOLITION OF IMPRISON:siENT FOR DEBT. Tho ATTORNEY-GENERAL and others brought up the Imprisonment for Debt Abolition Bill. Lord RODEN presented a petition agaidst the E;:ocli UniversitieS Bill. HIGHWAYS' BILL. The Report on the Highways Bill was brought up. Lord FALMOUTH proposed the introduction of a cianse to make the Bill applicable to all woods. The Duke of RICHMOND opposed the amendment. Lord FALMOUTH they. proposed the adjournment of the debate until next Thursday. The ➢uke of RICHMOND also oppoed this motion. After some discussion the gitcstion of adjournment r ..f put and neratived. The Report was then receivcl LORD FALMOUTH intimated that Le e e 357 MN I