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fro ttrtb 121)ition SUN OFFICE, Seven o' Clock. --- EAST INDIA MOUSE, JavrartT 26, 1844. THE COURT of DIRECTORS of the EAST INDIA COMrANT do hereby give notice, That the Transfer Books *f the said Company's !stock will be BRUT en THURSDAY, the 2€l March next, at Three o'clock, and Opened again on THURSDAY, the 13th April following. That • General Court of the sdd Company will be held at their 'ogee, in Leadenhall-street, on WDDNESDAY, the 12th April, 1843, trona 'Sine o'clock In the Morning until Six o'clock in the Evening, for the Election of Six Directors of the said Company for Four Tears. That the Form of a Letter of Attorney and of a Declaration for enabling Proprietors or East India Stock to vote by Proxy on this occasion may be obtained ou application at the Treasury in this Mouse. That the Lists of the Members of the said Company will be ready to be delivered on THURSDAY, the 30th March next. JAMES C. MELYILL, Secretary. CHARTIST CONVENTION. (THIS DAY.) AFTERNOON SITTING. The delegates re-assembled shortly after half-pass two o'clock; /dr. I'Grath in the chair. Mr. CUFFAY said his constituents were so disgusted with those who had acted as special constables yesterday, that they were desirous that a deputation from the Conven tion should be appointed to attend a public meeting which was to be held this evening, at Mead's-place, Lambeth, for the purpose of coming to a resolution to confine their dealings exclusively to the tradesmen who had refused to be sworn in as special constables. He, therefore, proposed two del, gates should be nominated for this purpose. The motion having been seconded, Mr. Jones, of Liverpool, and Mr. Shaw, of Leeda, were appointed. The CHAIRMAN read communications from Kingston, Rythe (with lei.), Ifulme, Reading, Manchester (with 7Z), Bradford, ShetE,ld, and a number of other places, stating that at public meetings held at those places reso lutions were unanimously passed pledging themselves to abide by the proceedings of the Convention. The Delegate for Barnsley stated that he had received a letter to a similar effect from his constituents, and which, in addition, stated that they were ready, if neces sary, to walk down to the railway and do anything that was wanted.—(Laughter and significant cheers.) Mr. CLARKE complained of the speech of Lord Lans downe in the House of Lords last night, as misrepre senting what took place yesterday, in saying that the people had been dispersed by the police alone, and that the re-organization of a similar movement was in the highest degree improbable. He also com plained of being prevented passing over Vauxhall-bridge in a cab with the petition, in consequence of which he was compelled to go round by Battersea.—(Groans.) IMPEACHMENT OF MINISTERS. The motion for the impeachment of Ministers having been brought on, Mr. ADAMS said he would not have taken a part in the discussion if he had not been desirous of expressing his strongest condemnation of the manner in which a great many of the dele gates had thought proper to express themselves with respect to the future policy which they deemed it necessary for the Convention to pursue. He considered that the most courageous course for the members to take was to act temp e rately an d moderately, both their own p ersona l sa f et y an d for the for sake of the Ch ar t er . Th ey h a d b e en branded as cowards for their conduct yesterday; but he considered himself that those ought to be looked upon as cowards and enemies to the cause who endeavoured to excite them or th e people to commit any rash act. He theref ore th oug ht that he had acted wisely , and in accordance with the opinions of his constituents, when he followed the advice of the Executive Committee in not attempting to come in collision with the authorities. He stated, in conclusion, that he considered the Govern ment deserved to be impeached in the House of Com mons for having attempted to destroy the constitutional right of the people, and he wculd, therefore, support the motion of Mr. Clarke.—(Cheers.) Mr. FRANCEAS supported the motion. Mr. CUMMING said be should vote for the amendment of Mr. Lund, because if an impeachment was moved for in the House of Commons, he knew it would be treated with scorn, ridicule, and contempt. Dr. HUNTER was in favour of the original motion. Mr. STEVENSON supported the motion. Mr. LEACH, in the course of a speech supporting the motion, observed that if the Government dared to set the soldiers upon the people, either in the metro polis or the provinces, one universal conflagration and scene of blood throughout the country would be the order of the day.—(Great cheering.) Alluding to the meaner in which some petitions were received by the House of Commons, he assured them that the country would not bo long governed by a set of laughing hyenas.—(Laughter and loud cheers.) Mr. ASHTON trusted, if the motion for an impeach ment was treated with contempt, that the same result would follow which had taken place in France. After several delegates had addressed the Convention, the amendment, to the effect that they should proceed to the cousideration of the previous question, was then put, but only four hands were held up in favour of it. The motion for the impeachment of Ministers was accordingly declared to be carried, and the announcement was re ceived with a burst of applause. On the motion of Mr. ( TRARAII, a vote of thanks to the Executive Committee for the manner in which they had conducted the demonstration yesterday was unani mously agreed to. The Convention, after the transaction of other busi ness, then adjourned. CRIMINAL COURT.-(THIS DAY.) OLD COURT DESPERATE ASSAULT .—CharIes Empey, aged 23, a smith, and Alexander Pickett, aged 20, labourer, were indicted for feloniously cutting and wounding a police constable, named Pickett, with the intention of doing him some grievous bodily harm. It appeared that on the evening of the 2lst of March the prisoner and several others created much disturbance by singing and other noises outside a public house in Holloway. The constable interfered, and was grossly attacked by the prisoners, and several ' others, amounting to the number of twenty. The Erisoners were, howev e r, more v i o l ent t h an t h e rest. nvoy wrested his truncheon and rattle from him, and struck and kicked him, sad at length threw him on the ground, and jumped upon his body, in which he was assisted by the other prisoners. A number of large stones were thrown, and the witnesses stated it was re markable that the constable was not killed. The jury found the prisoners Guilty, and Empey was sentenced to 18 months' imprisonment and hard labour, and Pickett to 12 months. MORTALITY in the METROPOLIS. .NUMBER OF DEATHS FROM ALL CAUSES REGISTERED IN THE WEEK ENDI)TG SATURDAY, APRIL 8, 1848. Epidemic, Endemic, and Contagious Diseases 239 Diseases of Uncertain Seat ... ..• 43 Turberc u l ar Di seases... •.• 193 Diseases of the Brain, Nerves, and Senses... ... 106 Diseases of th e H eart an d Bl oo d -vessels 26 Diseases of the Lungs, and other Organs of Respiration ... . Diseases of the Stomach, Liver, and other ..• •• • .. 176 of Dige s ti on... Organs Diseases of the Kidney s, &c. Childbirth, Diseases of the Uterus ' ice Diseases of th e J uints, Bones, paidMu . scle; " Diseases of the Skin, &c. Malformatio ns— . ••• "' Premature Birth ..• ••• ••• Atrophy Old Age • .• . • Violence, Privation, Cold, or Intetnpe. ranee" Causes not specified ... 53 ... 21 •.. 34 ••• 28 ••• 25 DEAplil FROSI ALL CAUSES ... 1,008 Ponulation ATerage weekly Enumerated, De a th s, 1843-7. D eaths 1841. Fire Winters. in the West Districts... 300,711 . . 1 61 Week. • •• North Districts.. 375,971 ..• 20 9 165 .., 186 Central Districts 373,653 ... 203 ... 170 East Districts ... 392,444 ... 233 . 2 10 South Districts .. 501,190 ... 299 ..• 277 T0ta15........ 1,948,425 Malas Females ... ... ... 1,107 „. 1,008 ... 525 ... 483 BIRTHS IN THE WEEK. Males Feruales ... Total ... ... 644 ... 686 -.1,340 MARKET INTELLIGENCE. (Prom the London New Price Current ofApr April ll.) Stioma.—To-day there was not so much inquir y for any kind of Poi eign Sugar, either for home use or ex port, and forme r rates were not generally supported, altlaougb, the market was less freely supplied. In West Indi Muscavado limit a ed in all the parchases made were extremely than for someso rts, ind ee d th e quantity sold was less in favour of ,113,134 did not exc ee d 60 hhds, &c. at prices flatness. 11 " 3 . The market closes with much REFINin..-Th. day there was littl e pass i ng i n re fi ne d goods for h ome consu be obtained u:ider 5 2a rn SiVins Sta n d ar d L umps cou ld not cwt. Bonded Crushed Su and brown grocery 51s 6d per gar . is dull of sale, first sort at 27s to 27s 6d, and second 2G 6cl per cwt. MACRITIIITS.--ThiS afternoon there was DO increase in the demand for Mauritius Sugar although a large quan tity was brought forward. sales consisted e 13l'i'ebi ibelter sorts, there (f 6,479 bags, comprising chieil • Aerate, and in some -.vas not much desire evinced t I o o cases rather I,,wer rates was taken,tbr the whole sold. EAST INDIA --This afternoon sale of Bengal S ugar, and the amount o f was in° public privately was li m i te d , although therewere ba s e s 1 n l earas% "Pondo ne rather lower terms. Madras is dull of sale, and must be called rather cheaper. FOREIGN.—To-day holders were willin g to farther concession in th e value of Foreign Sugmarl,ksetilal few buyers are to be met with privately, and none was offered at public sale. MoLAssEs.—The amount of business concluded in West India of all kinds has be en limited, and p r i ces con. tinue on the decline, as the stock is large. The value of low to fine quality is 15s to 18s per cwt. Bengal Treacle is little required, an can be obtained at lower rates. The stock is also on the increase. COFFEE.—This afternoon the quantity of Ceylon Coffee offered at p u bli c sa l e amoun t e d to 8 cas k s and 716 bags ; a small part only sold at the former value ; fi ne bold colory went at 76s to 83s, low middling 435, fine ordinary 3356 d to 37s 6d, and Triage 21s to 28s. Of Costa Rica 368 bags were taken in at 31s to 32s for fine ordinary dull. Native is little wanted, and good ordi nary is only worth 30s to 30s 6d per cwt. Mocha sells slowly at rather lower rates. TEA.—Although there are sellers of Congou at a re duction on former rates of id per lb, yet the purchases made have been limited in all sorts. the value of ordinary is 6d to 6id, and good ordinary 7s to lid per lb. Other sorts of Black are dull of sale and rather cheaper. In Green only a small business has been concladed, and prices must be quoted id to Id cheaper; Twankay, of ordinary quality, is only worth 5d to 6d; Ilyson common lld to is 2d; Imperial Caaton 8d to Is; Gunpowder ditto 9d to Is 3d There are sellers of Scented Teas at remarkably low rates; still buyers make purchases with much caution, and there is a large stock. SPICE3.—To-day there was a better demand for Black Pepper ; and 615 bags Sumatra at public sale fetched the full value —sifted black 24d to 2kd, and damaged lid to lid per lb. The public sales of Cinnamon are fixed for the 24th of August, when a large quantity will be offered. SPIRITS.—To-day Rum was dealt in with caution by exporters and home consumers. There was a desire shown to sell proof Leewards at is 9d, and East India of plain quality at is 7d per gallon proof strength. INDIGO.—The quantity of East India declared for auction on the 9th May, amounts to 6,065 chests. In all sorts the purchases made have been extremely limited, both for home use and exportation. Parcels can only be disposed of at a reduction on last quarterly sales' rates of 3d to 4d per lb. Spanish is little wanted, and is offered upon lower terms. RICE.—To-day there was no public sale of East India Rice, and only a small amount of business was concluded privately, althuugh there were sellers upon lower terms. Bengal, low and middling white 9s to 10s, good middling to good 10s 6d to lls, and fine 1 is 6d to 12s. SALTPETRE.—Today there was a decrease in the demand for rough, and merchants seemed more inclined to sell. At a public sale of 1,090 bags Calcutta, prices declined 6d to 11 per cwt, but the whole sold. Ou.s.—To-day the demand was more active for Lin seed Oil at 23s 6d to 233 9d per cwt. Olive is cheaper, and the market is dull. Prices vary from 421 10s to 46/ per tun. TALLOW.—The market for Russian has presented a tranquil appearance since our last report, and more inclination has been shown by holders to realiize. For fine P. Y. Candle on the spot 51s 6(1 to 52s per cwt have been accepted. For delivery in the last three months of the year there has been little passing, and sellars are ready to accept 46s per cwt. Home made is not much required, and can be obtained at sos to 51s nett cash, which are lower rates, and there is a fair supply. Prices are depressed for other sorts, and there is no decrease in the quantity on offer. At public sale 9S casks of P. Y. Candle were sold. BANK OF ENGLAND. (THIS DAY.) The election of Governor and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England took place this morning, The ballot• boxes were opened at four o'clock, when James Morris, Esq., was declared elected Governor, and Henry James Prescott, Esq., Deputy Governor of the Bank. The usual oaths were then administered. The election for directors takes place to-morrow, and the following is the list of canditates, the new ones being marked with an asterick:— * Thomas Baring, Esq.; Henry Wollaston, Blake, Esq.; Edward Henry Chap man, Esq.; William Cotton, Esq.; John Oliver Hanson, Esq.; John Benjamin Heath, Esq.; Kirkman Daniel Hodgson, EN.; Henry Launcelot Holland, Esq.; John Gellibrand Hubbard, Esq.; Thomas Newman Hunt, Esq.; Charles Fred er i c k Huth, Esq.; Alfred Latham, Esq.; *George Lyall, jun., Esq.; *Thomas Maaterman, Esq.; *Alexander Mth aeson, Esq.; Humphrey St. John Mildmay, Esq.; George Warde Norman, Esq.; John Horsley P a l mer , E sq ; James Pettison, Esq. ;, Sir John , Henry P e lly, B art.; 'T homas Charles Sm i th, Esq.; %Nll- liam Thompson, Es q ., an d Ald erma n ; Thomas Matthias Weguelin, Esq.; Francis Wilson, Esq. THE LONDON GAZETTE. (THIS EVENING.) WHITEHALL, APRIL 10, 1848. The Queen has been pleased to appoint the Right Honourable Henry Labouchere to be one of the Com. mistioners of Railway. WHITEHALL, APRIL 10. The Queen has been pleased to present the Rev. Hugh Mackenzie to the charge and office of Third Minister of the united parish of Inverness and Bona, is the presby tery and county of Inverness, vacant by the transporta tion of the Rev. Donald Maconnachie, late Minister thereof, to the charge and office of Minister of the united parish of Urquhart and Glenmorriston. Commissions by the Lord Lieutenant of Aberdeenshire Aberdeenshire Regiment of Militia—Henry Knight Erskine, Esq., to be Major ; John Baton, Esq., to be Captain; Capt. James Forbes_ to be Captain, Feb; 15413. _ _ - WHITEHALL, APRIL 3. The Lord Chancellor has appointed Folliet Sandford, of Shrewsbury, in the county of Salop, Gent., to be a Master Extraordinary in the High Court of Chaneery. BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED. James Anning White, draper, Stockland. BANKRUPTS. _ _ Robert Kersey, saddler, Hadleigh, Suffolk, to sur render April 18, at one, and May 23, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Stansfield, official atsignoc; Smith, Furnival's-inn ; Pownall, Ipswich. Charles Dobson Smith, florist, Bridge-road, Battersea, Surrey, April 19 and May 23, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Pennell, official assignee; Orme, Chancery lane. John Reay, jun., and Henry Reay, wine merchants, Mark•lanN, April 24, at one, and May 29, at twelve, at ehe Court of Bankruptcy. Graham, official as signee, Coleman -street; Borrodaile and Dimsdale, King's Arms-yard. James Fairs, victualler, Horsham, Sussex, April 19, and May 17, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Bell, official assignee, Coleman-street-buildings; Waugh and Co., Great James-street, Bedford-rew; Padwick, Horsham. Augustus Alexander Lackersteen and William Ha milton Crake, merchants, Moorgate-street, London, May 1, at twelve, and June 1, at eleven, at the Court of Beak ruptcy. Bannan, official assignee, Birchin-lane; Dickson and Overbury, Frederick's-place, Old Jewry. Zechariah Bowden, builder, Worrington-street, Oak ley-square, St. Pancras, April 22, and May 27, at eleven. at the Court of Bankruptcy. Follett. official assignee, Sambrook -court, Basinghall• street ; Ivimey, chancery lane. Thomas Clent, grocer, Leamington Priors, April 22, and May 20, at half-past ten, at the Birmingham Dis trict Court. Whitmore, official assignee, Birmingham; Letts, Bartlett's-buildings, London; Bortleet, Waterloo street, Birmingham. Henry William Damsel], grocer, Bisley, Gloucester shire, April 25, at twelve, and May 23, at eleven, at the Bristol District Court. Hutton, official assignee, Bris tol; Blower and Co., Lincoln's Inn-fields, London; Kearsey, Stroud. John Short, boot maker, Bristol, April 28 and May 30, at eleven, at the Bristol District Court. Miller, official assignee, Bristol ; Jay, London; Crosby, Bristol. Reginald William Bligh, hosier, Plymouth, April 26, and May 23, at eleven, at the Exeter District Court. flirtzel, official assignee, Exeter ; Cross, Plymouth ; Terrell, Exeter; Gregory, Faulkner, Gregory, and Skit row, Bedford-row, London. John Henry Adams and William Adams, machinists, Sampford Peverill, Devonshire, April 25, at eleven, and May 18, at one, at the Exeter District Court. Hernaman, official assignee, Exeter; Head, Exeter; Downes, Gamlin and Scott, Furnival's Inn. William John Dacres Millman, tailor, Plymouth, April 25, at eleven, and May 18, at four, at the Exeter District Court. Hernaman, official assignee, Exeter; Lavers, Plymouth; Stogdon, Exeter; Pontifex and Mo ginie, St. Andrew's-court, Holborn. John James Ward, dealer and chapman, Plymouth, April 26, and May 23, at eleven, at the Exeter District Court. Hernaman, official assignee, Exeter ; Stogdon, o ' tu t nillaY, Exeter ; Kedell, Baker, and Grant, Lime street, London. Robert Britton, grocer, Bradford, Yorkshire, April 25 and M ay 15, at e even, at the Leeds District Court. Hopeelolffi-ceoivarlt,"Ls gundeoet: Bosw ;LeWeedllss;a n li ci a c w o k . n ß s r ad and fo r C d o ; C . , o N u e rt w . nay, Leeds. iarn, Montgomeryshire, tAcelol... 2s e:a n y n g d lo m dd a r y a, 22 L , la a n t n e w le c v h e a n: Hugh John Evans, grocer, P at the Liverpool Distrie :akaurt. acourt, ,Cazenove official as signee, Liverpool; Weeks fields; Woosnam, New-tow, uncoln's Inn- Liverpool. ,Montgomery shire ; Mason, Joh Wharton, grocer, Runcorn Ch h' and May 15, a t twe l ve, at the anchestees i M re, April 27, Court. Pott, cfficial assignee ; E vans District pool; Oliver, Old J ewry , London. and Son, Liver- IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. (THIS EVENING.) HOUSE OF LORDS. The LORD CIIANCZI.LOIt took his seat on the Wool sack at Five o'clock. NEW PEER. Lard ACHESON, who was introduced to the House for the first time by Lord Wilford and Lord Sudeley, t oo k the oaths and his seat. ODD FELLOWS' SOCIETIES. Lord BEAUMONT pres . ente t d ha p t et t i h ti e o y ns sh f o ro u r d s b e e veral lodges, praying legal privileges as other benefit societies. owr and Lord LITTELTON pre sentedO en titledd d Fellows' to the same ELECTION RECOGNIZANCIES presented petition against the T he similar p uk e of petitions. B E At 7 Bill. Lord Election CAMPBELL ted their Lordships to BILL. any bias with re keep their minds perfectly . free . from 'pact to the merits as he himself pro duced by the address of his Noble Friend, had been would be obliged to support the petition which of this Bill, entrusted to him to present to the House. which might be DESTITUTE FOREIGNERS. The Duke of BEAUFORT had received information that destitute forei gners had arrived in this country in considerable numbers from Italy, Germany, and the other state s in which changes had been lately made; and he wished to know whether any changes had been made in the alien -law forei gners may bers, egul by which th e conduct of these visio ns o f B ritish law? ated in accnrdan ee w i t h t h e pro - Lord LANSDOW/CE said that in answer to the ques tion of the Noble Lord, it w ou l d he his duty to place on the table of the House that night, if their Lordships would allow him to do so, a Bill for the purpose of meet ing and obviating the objections of the Noble Lord. Her Majesty's Government were aware many foreigners were in the habit of asking to partake the security of this country for the ostensible purpose of having the guarantee of the security of this country, not in reality that they might be empowered to aid in the disaffections that unfortunately prevailed in one portion of this country. He was aware that not less than 40,000 or 50,000 persons were prepared to aid these disaffections, and he would therefore ask their Lordships to allow the Bill to be introduced for the first time this evening, and to be taken on its further progress on Thursday next. Lord MALMESBURY quoted from the speech of Mr. Julian Harney, to show that there were one hundred thousand who were ready to march with the Chartists; but he (Lord Malmesbury) believed that there were very many foreigners who were anxious for the protection of foreigners, and he would quote two, namely, Prince Louis Napoleon and M. Quining, who were desirous of preserving the peace of this country. Lord BROUGHAM, in moving for correspond ence between the British Minister at Turin and the Government of Sardinia said that he hoped that the present unsettled state of Europe would never recur again in his experience. The peace of the continent and of Europe was exposed to perils which had not disturhed their peace during more than a quarter of a century, and from no where did he expect greater perils than that Court to which he referred in the notice now before the House. The treaty of Vienna had granted Genoa to the Kingdom of Sardinia —she, one of the great republics of the world, had been stripped of her power and annexed as a subsidiary state to the kingdom which owned the sway of Charles Albert. The Noble Lord deprecated the course pur sued by the King of Sardinia in holding ou t a promise of assistance to the Milanese, a promise fully borne out—one of the few p rom i ses ever fulfilled by that admirable Monarch.—(Laughter.) He questioned if a parallel could be found in history of such baith being exhibited as had been exhibited by the King of Sardinia. He never heard a more monstrous doctrine than that . which had been proclaimed by the King .gn o h : h.aenu S .dr a i r wn d .ga in s Sardinia— envfie viz., gedh t , h b a y t t whose h w e h s e a n nit the he rte rh ethrone t peopletreaty a was s los o that vetro o e f higi S mn a so r e d fl l sf il ta l h a rad li np s eioalrftwiCoahnso entitledo m of ore a an n cie t h t e o t e e trxerpis territory o e e rspys inof anddiscontent,hisa neighbourp pr ep t r h i the which expressed discontent. Venice has declared her independence, but it does not necessarily follow—he could—he would p re di ct t h at i t would ' never recover its liberty ; for liberty was one of those delicate plants that had never yet flourished in a republic. The Noble Lord then reviewed the past transactions of Italy, and instanced the actions of Charles Albert's life in 1820, 21, and 23, as affording no ground for hope to the Milanese, that in 1848 he would be more resolved than he was in these years. He believed that if that monarch believed that he could get the Genoese to preserve their integrity when he himself was trying to subvert authority in Milan and Northern Italy, then he (Lord Brougham) thought he was much mistaken and he would venture to prophecy without much risk of being held an untrue seer that the Genoese within nine months, would de mand a separation from the thraldom of Sardinia. (LEFT SPEAKING.) HOUSE OF COMMONS. PROTECTION OF THE CROWN AND GOVERN. MENT BILL. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition.) O❑ clause 2, which extended the operation of the Bill to Ireland, Mr. J. O'CONNELL rose to move that the Bill be amended by striking the clause out of it altogether, and also that portion of the preamble which related to it. He believed there was no necessity for this Bill in Ireland; but if there was, it would be brought out on the trial that would shortly take place in Ireland. It the Government insisted that the clause should remain part of the Bill he should divide the House against it. Sir G. GREY did not see why that which was treason in England should not be equally so in Ireland, and he must, therefore, persevere in retaining this clause as part of the Bill. Mr. F. O'CONNOR objected to the Bill, because ac cording to its provisions one witness could prove the treason, whereas in England it required two. The ATTORNEY•GENERAL said that after the passing of the Act it would require two witnesses to prove the treason in Ireland the same as in this country. After a few observations from Mr. HUME and Mr. Jolts O'CONNELL, clause 2 was ordered to stand part of the Bill without a division. On clause 3, which takes away the punishment of death for treason and substitutes that of transportation, Sir G. GREY said that in this clause it had been thought necessary to ask increased powers with respect to those who made speeches calcu lated to endanger the Crown. He admitted that this was a great alteration of the law, and he was willing to be guided by the wishes of the House with respect to the enactment. He, however, thought that some provision was necessary in order to prevent and put a stop to speeches that were calculated to effect in calculable mischief. He was willing to adopt the pro viso of the statute of Anne, but he could not consent to take away the provision that made the offence felony. Mr. F. O'CONNOR said he had repeatedly been tried, and had suffered under the present law, and ho could assure the House that it was amply sufficient to meet all cases of sedition. After a few words from Sir GEORGE GREY, Mr. AGLIONBY wished to have the opinion of tho Attorney-General upon the construction of the third clause. The clause as it stood provided that all parties who should compass or advise the depo sition of the Queen, of her royal name, or the rights of her royal Crown, either in the United Kingdom or any of her colonies, or dominions, should be liable to traus portation. Any person, therefore, who should advocate the separation of a colony from these kingdoms would be subject to transportation; and ho thought such a law as that would be most unfair. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said the clause would not bear the construction the Hon. Member put upon it. The clause provided simply that those who advised by force of arms that the Queen should be deprived of any of her rights should be liable to be transported.—(Herr.) Mr. AGLIONBY said the explanation of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman was as intelligible as the clause itself, and he should move, as an amendment, that th e wording of the clause should be simply that any person who proposed to depose her Majesty should be liable to transportation. Mi. OSBORNE asked if the Right Hon. Baronet who had charge of the Bill would consent to the admission of the word " forcibly," so that the clause should pro vide for the transportation of those persons who should advise the forcible deposition of her Majesty. Sir G. GREY declined to accede to the proposition. Mr. MARTIN gave it as his opinion that, if the clause were passed as it now stood, it would be felony to advocate the repeal of the union. Mr. ANSTEY said the Lion. and Learned Gentleman was mistaken. After a few words from Mr. R. PALMER, Mr. MOWATT said they were legislating under the influence of panic and fear, or the House never could think of passing such a clause as this. He therefore called upon the Government to amend it. Mr. G. THOMPSON protested that the clause as it stood was, no doubt, dangerous and uncertain, and al though the Attorney-General might construe it in a manner favourable to the views of the House, yet, as that Hun. and Learned Gentleman's opinion would not prevail in a court of law, the clause ought to be rendered intelligible to the meanest capacity. After some further discussion, Mr. AGLIONBY said he would not press his amend ment to a division. The CHAIRMAN said he would now read the clause clearly over. _ The clause having been read, Mr. AGLIONBY proposed that the word " utter" should be omitted. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said he could not consent to the omission. Mr. F. O'CONNOR hoped tho Hon. Member for Cockermonth would take the sense of the House on his proposal. After a few words from Sir W. CLAY, Mr. AGLIONBY said he would not divide. After a short discussion Sir G. GREY moved—" That the Chairman do re port progress, and ask leave to sit again to•morrow." The motion was agreed The House having resumed, the CHAIRMAN reported accordingly. The House then adjourned till Five o'clock. The SPEAKER resumed the Chair at Five o'clock. ALTERATION IN THE LAW OF DEBTOR AND CREDITOR. Mr. Sheriff fill appeared at the bar in his robes of office, and presented a petition from the Lord Mayor and Aldermen of the city of London, in Common Council assembled, praying for an alteration in the law of debtor and creditor. KINSALE ELECTION. The SPEAKER stated that he had been informed by the examiner of recognizanees that the proposed sureties, with respect to the petition against the return for the borough of Kinsale, were unobjectionable. REPEAL OF THE UNION. Mr. J. O'CONNELL presented three hundred peti tions from various towns in Ireland, and one from Glasgow, praying for a repeal of the Legislative Union in Ireland. DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS WITH ROME. Mr. COWAN presented a petition from the Inverness Presbytery of the Free Church of Scotland against the . Bill for establishing diplomatic relations with the Court of Rome. GLASGOW WATERWORKS BILL. Mr. M‘GREGOR moved that a petition of the chair man of a meeting of landowne:s and house factors of Glasgow and its suburbs, against the Glasgow Water works Acts Amendment Bill (presented 11th February), should bo referred to the Committee oa the Bill. After a few words from Sir W. HEATHCOTE, who opposed it, the motion was withdrawn. SECURITY TO TUE CROWN AND GOVERN MENT. Mr. WOOD gave notice that he should propose, as an amendment to the 3d claus e o f t hi s Bill, the insertion of twhingtwwoor)d.esatr—s l a ' f l te f r s t u h c e h_p p u as b s l i i n c g sp o e fa ki n shou ld the occur the 9 in fowlli SMALL DEBTS. Mr. B. COCIIRANE gave notice that he should move for leave to bring in a Bill to repeal the small debts Act. BEIVDLgY. Captain RUSHOUT moved that the Speaker do issue his warrant to the Clerk of the Crown to wake out •a new writ for the election of a burgess to serve in this present Farlignent for the borough of Bewdley, in the room of Thomas James Ireland, Esq.,. whose election has been declared void. Sir J. HANAIER moved, as an amendment, that the return for Bewdley having been declared void for bri bery and corrupt treating, and other corrupt practices, stated to have prevailed there, it is necessary to consider the condition of the elective franchise in that place, with a view to its reform, and in the mean time to suspend the writ. _ _ He said that the Legislature, after what had taken place at some of the elections, ought to adopt some conrse by which corruption might be obviated, as such proceedings brought the House into contempt and dis satisfied the people, as they were led to conceive, with some show of truth, that they were not fairly represented. He did not wish to deprive the House of its discretion, but he was anxious that the House should be compelled to act according to its discretion. He thought that some steps ought to be taken before they issued a new writ for Bewdley in order to see if something could not be done to place the constituency of that borough upon a more sound and honest foundation. It was seldom that these cases of bribery were properly sifted to the bottom, for it invariably happened, that when enough bad been proved to unseat the sitting Member, the agent abandoned the further prosecution of the inquiry. With regard, however, to treating, he thought the House was rather too prudish upon that point. Members ought to be unseated for simply exercising the ordinary customs of hospitality. In this case, however, a bad practice of treating the voters to an extravagant extent, and con sidering the limited number of the constituency of the borough of Bewdley they could not well look over these abuses.—(Hear, hear.) Ile moved: this amend ment from no party motives whatever, but from a desire to have the evils which existed in the borough of Bewdley remedied. His motion did not specify any plan by which that end could be accom• plished, but simply proposed that the writ should be de layed till some improvement could be made in the fran chise of Bewdley. Mr. HUME seconded the motion. Ho bad upon a previous occasion brought forward a motion having for its object the delay of the issue of all new writs in cases where the Members had been unseated for bribery or corruption until a general committee had been appointed to inquire into the circumstances connected with the cases of every such city, borough, or county. With respect to the borough of Bewdley, it appeared to him that a most serious amount of demoralization had taken place, and he should, therefore, give his most cordial support to the amendment of his Right Hon. Friend. He hoped that the Noble Lord at the head of the Government, who proposed to bring in a Bill with respect to the borough of Horsham, would include this borough of Bewdley in the same measure. Mr. BLACKSTONE said, as the House had con sented to issue a new writ for Harwich, after the bri bery that had been proved to have been practised at the last election, he saw no reason why they should not accede to the motion for issuing a new writ. Sir J. HANMER explained. Sir C. WYNN was understood to support the suspen sion of the writ for a short time. Mr. MART thought if any step were taken that it snould emanate from the Government. Lord CASTLEREAGH said, as he was the only member of the Committee who underwent the penance of sitting fourteen days upon the inquiry, he would merely state that as evidence of bribery and treating at the last election had been ad. duced before them that the representation of that borough 'should be placed upon an improved footing. He thought that strong ground, had been brought for ward for the House to consider well before they issued a new writ for the borough of Bcwdley. He thought, however, the same measure of justice should be meeted out to Bewdley that had been granted to ll,rwichl Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the House divided, when there appeared— For issuing the writ Against it .... Majority in favour of issuing the writ —42 The writ was, therefore, ordered to issue. REPEAL. OF THE UNION. Mr. JOHN O'CONNELL, after presenting several petitions from different parts of Ireland in favour of the repeal of the Legislative Union, rose pur- suant to notice to move for leave to bring in a Bill to repeal the Legislative Union between Great Britain and Ireland, and to enable her Majesty to summon her Parliament of Ireland, and was (LEFT SPEAKING.) COURSE OF EXCH. Dir.% at sight • ...... 12 4 Rotterdam .... • 12 7% Munburgh .... • • 11.8. 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Martin ; Canopus, $4 guns, Captain Fairfax Moresby, C B.; and the Amphion frigate of 36 guns, Captain Williarns, are ordered to prepare for sea, at Cork. Sir Charles Napier was at Kingstown on the Bth instant, with his flag flying on board the Dragon steam frigate, Capt. flail. The line of battle ships have completed provisions and water for two months' consumption, and now await orders. Sir Charles Napier was in frequent communication with Lord Clarendon, th© Lord• Lieutenant, at the Castle of Dublin. PLYMOUTH, APRIL 9 .—The Agincourt, ordinary guard ship, has been removed from the jetty to the Bellona hulk, and will go to her moorings in a few days. The Nautilus, 10 gun brig, was commissioned as a tender to the San Josef on Friday. The troopship Apollo, Master Commander Pearn, arrived at this port on Friday, having on board the service companies of the 35th Regiment from the Mau ritius. A body of these soldiers were immediately marched to the citadel. The Havannah, 22, Captain Erskine, sailed on Thurs day with mails for Madeira, Cape of Good Hope, Sydney, and New Zealand. _ on Royal Do c ky ar d b a tt a li on f or th e Thursday evening. It comprised these season o h n e fit whole o r o s ir f ci p r : nlehalec of officers, sergeants, and corporals, who will continue their drill two nights per week during the month. The whole of the battalion will commence drill the beginning of next month, and continue two nights weekly until the end of August. On account of their age and infirmities, several of the officers have been per mitted to withdraw from the battalion. A reduction is to be made in the number of sawyers in this dockyard, by the superannuation of those who are unfit for service. By order of the Admiralty, the following arran g ement is to be adopted by the superin tendents of her Majesty's dockyards, viz.:-1. To insert for superannuation the names of those considered inca pable. 2. The last made topmen are to fall back to pit men. 3. The last made pitmen to labourers. Accord ing to the present arrangement of the board, no hired artificer will be employed in the yard during the financial year of 18489. Mr. Hicks, master sailrnaker, has been superannuated on a persion of 1251. per annum; and John Hancock, mate of the Sheerhulk, on 241. per annum. The name of the Audacious, ordered to be built as a screw vessel at this yard, is to be altered to the James Watt. The Albion is having her tanks put on board, and will be masted to-morrow, and reported ready for commis sion. The Racer and America will be put out of dock next spring tidos. THE EAST INDIA COHNAND.—Rear-Admiral Sir Francis Augustus Collier, C. 8., K.C.H., is at Ports mouth, superintending the orders for fitting out his flag ship, the Hastings, 72 guns, whi c h was p ut i n comm ission yesterday. Mr. Price, senior clerk in the Commander in-Chief's office at Portsmouth, is selected by Sir Francis as his secretary. RAILWAY SHARE MARKETS. LIVERPOOL, APRIL 10. STOCK Excrwroz.—The market is not so much depressed to-day as it was oa Saturday, but the amount of business done was smaller. The following are the quotations : Eastern Counties, 12% c.—Great Northern, 10% dis.—Great North of England, 151. Shares, 14!4 p.—Huddersfield and Manchester, 81 4 dis. c.—Lancashire and Yorkshire, Fifths, 21 % dis. c,—Ditto (late L. and B.), Halves, 13 dis.—Lon don and North-Western, 120 c.—Ditto, Fifths, p.—Ditto, New Quarters, 1 p. c.-51idland Stock, 91—North Stafford shire, 3% dis.—Shrewsbury and Birmingham (A), 4 1 e dis. c.—South-Eastern and Dover, 213 x —Ditto, No. 4, Thirds, 4 dis.—York, Newcastle, and Berwick (G. N. E. Purchase), 1 dis.—Paris and Orleans, 20—Rouen and Havre, 6. MANCHESTER, APRIL 10. STOCK Excirawcis.—The sales are—Birkenhead, Lanca shire, and Cheshire Junction, 7 dis.—East Lancashire, New, 8 1 , 2 dis.—Great Northern, 10 1 / a dis.—Lancashire and York shire, Quarters, 4 1 k dis.—Ditto, Fifths, 2 dis.—Ditto (West Riding Union), 3:4 4 i dis.—Ditto, I'reston and Wyre, halves (A), 2% p.—Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire, Pre ference, 1 i dis.—North Staffordshire, 314 dis.—Shropshire Union, 3% dis.—South-Eastern and Dover, No 4, 4 dis. PRESERVATION OE ORDER.—It has been suggested that should the Chartist agitation continue gentlemen of Lincoln's Inn, who have been sworn in special con stables, should volunteer their services as an armed company, di s p osa bl e b y th e Government. It is pro posed that each of th e gentlemen of that society, wil ling to serve (of whom more than four hundred mus tered as special constables yesterday in the garden), should, after providing himself with a plain forage cap and dark frock and trousers of a uniform colour, apply to the proper military authority for a supply of arms and accoutrements similar to those furnished to the outpensioners. The Learned and Gallant Beneher who acts as co mman d er of the special constables of this society would, doubtless, afford his cervices as chief of such a corps. ABBOTSF ORD.—Weunderstand that this celebrated mansion will shortly be occupied after the fashion of more prosaic places, it having been let to a Mr. Hope, a London merchant, a relation of the youthful proprietor. Whether this will interrupt the visiting to it we cannot say, It was occupied for a short while by a family a few years ago, and two hours in the day were allowed for iters at th a t t i me; and at present it is open from eight o'clock till dusk. --Border Advertiser. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT, HOUSE OF COMMONS, April 10. The SPEAKER took th e Ch a i r at Four -o'clock. CROWN AND GOVERNMENT SECURITY BILL. Sir G. GREY, who upon rising, was loudly cheered, said—Sir, after the long absence of the Hon. Gentleman from his place—(Cheers) —and now rising in his place upon the moment that the second reading of the Bill is now before the House, I certainly entertained some hope, albeit a faint one, that he had risen to disavow with indignation—(Cheers)—that indignation which all loyal subjects of this realm must feel at the imputations which have been cast upon his loyalty—(Cheers) —not only in that House, but by every newspaper circulated throughout this realm for some weeks past, and that he would, with that fervid eloquence which characterises his harangues elsewhere, if not in this House— (Cheers and laughterl—disavow those sentiments and profess that, by virtue, if of no better feelings, of that oath of allegiance—(Tremendous cheering)-- which the Hon. Member has repeatedly taken—(Renewed cheer ing)—to the Sovereign of these realms, that he cast off the imputations which have been so frequently cast upon his name.--(Loud cheers.) What, then, was my astonishment, nay, what were my feel ings of pain and regret—feelings shared, I will venture to say, by every Honourable Member in this House—(Tremendous cheering)—when, with the miserable pretence of still professing l o y a l ty , a faint shadow of loyalty to his Sovereign, not without that boldness and daring—(Loud cheers)—which has characterised his speeches elsewhere, repeating the sen timents which he has elsewhere uttered, and charging my Noble Friend, in defending the constitution of the country, with charges similar to those made against himself, viz., that of treason.—(Hear, hear, and cheers.) The Hon. Member said that in his absence be had been called a traitor, perhaps the Hon. Member will allow me to say, that I am not in the least degree responsible for the absence of the Hon. Member.—(Cheers.) The cause of that absence no doubt the Honourable Member is the best able to explain.—(Laughter.) I did not, however, call the Hon. Member a traitor; this, however, I did—l read to the House a portion of the report of the Irish Cenfederation, at which an asso ciate of the Hon. Member, Mr. Duffy said in his speech that he had received a message from that Honourable Member who was then in Paris, and rejecting that discouraging repulse which the Hon. Gentleman had received from M. Lamartine—(Loud cheers)—and which I must say reflected the greatest credit upon him—in which he refused to encourage those designs, Ise they seditious, traitorous, or loyal, as the Hon. Member pretends to assure the House—and stated that he should in so doing be violating the law dilations and giving a good cause of war to England.—(Cheers.) Does the Hon. Gentleman deny the statement which was made by Mr. Duffy at the Irish Confederation, and which had the effect of setting aside altogether the answer of M. Lamartine to the Irish deputation?— (Hear, hear.) That statement was to the effect that the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. O'Brien) was informed by a club in Paris that the French people felt deeply moved at the grievances of the Irish, and were able, should they require assistance, to send 50,000 of their bravest citizens to aid them in obtaining their rights.--(Hear.) Mr. O'BRIEN was understood to request the Right Hon. Baronet to read the next paragraph. Sir G. GREY.---The next passage of the reply to which he referred stated that Mr. O'Brien offered his sincere thanks on the part of Ireland for that offer.— (Lousi cries of " Hear, hear," ard cheers.) Is the Hon. Gentleman now satisfied?—(Laughter and cheers.) The next passage was to the effect that Ireland would conquer by the energy of her own chil dren. That meant that, although they could them selves institute a successful insurrection, still, if the worst should happen of the struggle, France had pro mised, as Mr. Duffy had said, in contradiction of M. Lamartine's reply, the assistance of 50,000 Frenchmen. —(Cheers.) I hoped the Hon. Gentleman would have disavowed the intention of seducing the soldiers and police from their duty to the constitution with the view of their joining the mob.—(Hear, hear.) I said I did not call the Hon. Gentleman a traitor.—(Hear, hear.) I read the statement of Mr. Duffy, and because it con tained the sentiment to which I have alluded, he said I called him a traitor.—(Cheers.) The House drew the inference from it, and I find that inference givea in the unmistakable manner in which the words of the Honourable Gentleman were received when he said he had been called a traitor.—(Great cheering.) The Honourable Gentleman said that the effect of this measure would be to alienate the Orangemen from sup porting the Government, but I will say that a very large portion of the population of Ireland, including ull creeds and persuasions, is determined to support the present constitution of the United Kingdom, and I am moreover sure that they will indignantly deny the right of the Honourable Gentleman to expound their feelings to this House.—(Loud cheers.) He also said that the body, of which he constituted a part in Ireland, was supported to a man by the Chartists of this ccuntry. Now, I disbelieve entirely that asser tion, for it has been lately stated in this House by a leader of the Chartists that they are firmly attached to the monarchy of this country.—(Hear, hear, and cheers.) I believe the Hon. Gentleman will find him self miserably deceived if he thinks that he will obtain any assistance from foreign countries. —(Loud cheers.) Ireland, England, and Scotland would rise in indignation against the dictation of the Hon. Gentlemen, and against the exposition which he pretends to give of the feelings of his own country.— (Cheers.) Far be it from me to speak of the tone of the Hon. Gentleman, and of the accusation which he has made against the Government with respect to their in tentions to Ireland, for it is their great desire to make it rich, happy, and prosperous, and to give it those constitutional rights which every person in the kingdom enjoys. —(Cheers.) We want the real union of all men, and the reasons for this Bill will, to a certain extent, be found in the dangerous and mischievous language and threats which have been resorted to ; and in the Bill rests not only the security of the Crown and the Government, but the true interests of the great body of the people.—(Great cheering.) Mr. F. O'CONNOR said, as he had been alluded to, he rose simply to state that he had used the sentiments enunciated by the Hon. Member both within and without that House. He said that the voice of the people was greater than that of the Crown ; but, having taken the oath of allegiance, ho was prepared to defend the Crown, not only against its enemies, but against the machinations of her Majesty's Ministers, if neces sary. The Right Honourable Baronet (Sir G. Grey) had alluded to the allegiance of Orangemen, and to the loyalty of the troops and police, and said they were sufficient for the defence of the country, meaning thereby to imply that the words used by him— " ridiculous and foolish "—were levelled agains. those who favoured the repeal of the Union He would ask the descendant of Lord William Russell if it became him to ferret out old Acts of Pula liament, in order to fetter the sentiments of the people? To show that his sentiments had been entertained by others, he might cite the speeches of the Hon. Baronet the Member for Harwich (Sir J. C. Hobhouse), and ask if anything could go further than the sentiments that Hon. Baronet had enunciated? But they were success ful—they led to the passing of the Reform Bill, though that measure had proved destructive to tens of thousands of the people of Ireland. They had been trying to do something for forty-eight years, but they had failed. They had tried too long. He had thought on the speech of the Hon. Gentleman the Member for Oldham (Mr. W. J. Fox), that the Government would have paused before they proceeded further with the Bill. Every man who wrote advisedly would be liable to transportation. Why, if this were an expostfacto law, the Right Hon. Baronet himself might, perhaps, be sent to the other side of the Atlantic. The United States had sent over 1,000,000 of dollars to aid the Irish in their struggles. Now, he had refused to be one of a deputation to France, because he thought with Shakespere, that "if England cannot keep the dog from her own door, that she had better be worried." If a foreign army came to invade this country, he would risk his life in resisting it ; let them rely upon the mind and will of the people of England and Ireland. Why, but for the Right Honourable Baronet (Sir Robert Peel) hundreds of the usands would have died of famine in Ireland. Ho had at tended the demonstration to-day, and, thank God ! it had passed off peaceably.—(Laughter.) honourable Gentlemen laughed. He repeated that he rejoiced it had passed off peaceably.—t Cries of " Hear, hear.") If the Right Hon. Baronet wished to destroy the expression of the free opinion of the people he would induce them, as did a portion of the former Convention, to go about the country establishing clubs. Many of the former Convention were mere rabble, who only joined it to get paid ; and when they went into the country promoting the formation of clubs, he followed them in the dead of winter at his own expense, attacked them wherever they went, ard succeeded in driving them out of Scotland. Ile hated secresy, and had foyer written a private political letter in his life.—(Hear, hear.) And now they intended to pass a Bill to enable them to prosecute the Hon. Gentle man the Member for Limerick (Mr. S. O'Brien), but they migEtt depend, if they did so, that their triumph would b. weakness they would weaken the law, and bring the Government into contempt. Until they had a really constitutional opposition in the House„ they might depend upon it they would con tinue 1;o experience similar daring from the Government benches. The Bill was an infraction upon the right of the suleject. Many voted by courtesy for the introdue tioo of the Bill who did not intend to sup port it in its future stages.—(Hear.) Now, he was made of " sterner stuff," and therefore he begged to move that the Bill be read a second time this day six months. _ _ - THONIPSON seconded the motion. He wished (..o express his delight that the proceedings of the day h. 1,421 gone off with order and good f ee ling.—(hear.) H e wa s glad to find that they sat in peace and quietness. Do not let the House imagine that this peace resulted fr o m fear on the part of the people. No, it was from their ttonviction that great political changes could only be effected in this country by the force of argument. He hat I mingled amongst working men for the last 20 years, and while he had never shrunk from censuring when h e thought they were in the wrong, he cordially sympatl used with them when he believed they were in the right.--(Hear, hoar.) lie came now to the Bill before the House. In the first place, he objected to the haste with. which this Bill had been introduced. A more important Bill than this had not been introduced int, that House during the last century, and he would warn the House not to make that felony which. universal humanity did not c haracterise as such. ar, hear.) But let them pass the Bill, with its " gags,ing clause," and he would answer for it they would :not find their prisons large enough to hold nor ships .sufficiently numerous to transport the felons whom it would make.—(Cries of " Hear, hoar.") So far as I,he other parte of the 13111 were concerned, he did • not object to them; but in Heaven's name don't attempt to make it felony for a man to speak his thoughts openly and without disguise. Pass it, however, and what would be the result? Why, they would make hundreds of thousands of felons, who would, when they were dragged through the streets, be greeted with the (Ties that met the ears of Lord William Russell while eeing conveyed to the scaffold, namely, " There gees Liberty and Virtue side by side."—(Hear, hear.) But let Government persevere with this Bill as it stood, he would oppose it in every stage. Sir B. HALL said, that after he had listened to the discursive speech of the Hon. Member, he was surprised - o find he was not going to rote for the second reading. The Hon. Member had only objected to a few words in he Bill, which might be discussed in Committee. For his own part, he should have deemed the Government to have neglected its duty had not Ministers come down and put a stop to sedition and treason by proposing such a measure. The speeches of the Hon. Member for Not tingham in that House were loyal, and not subversive of the institutions of the country; but he regretted to :ay that his writings were not of that character. In the Northern Star of some days ago he found a letter signed ny the Ilon. Member, two columns and a half long, and containing an expression which he should be glad to hear the Hon. Member explain. The Hon. Member, talking of the Crown, said, " There is behind the Throne a power greater than the Crown, and let them put the Pope, the devil, or the Pretender on the throne, he cared not." The Hon. Member cried " Hear." If he (Sir B. Hall) bad taken an erroneous view of' his words, he should be glad to be corrected. But the only construction he could put upon them was, that the Hon. Member was quite indifferent who was on the throne, inasmueh as he said it was alike to him whether the Monarch was the Pope or the devil.—(Hear and laughter.) Representing as he did 350,000 of the inha• bitants of the metropolis, it had been his lot to witness the conduct of all classes during the late crisis, and he must bear a willing testimony to the loyalty and desire to promote order of all, from the Peer down to the poorest labourer. Mr. F. O'CONNOR said that he was not only ready to avow having written the passages which the Hon. Member had quoted, but also to say that he did not consider them to be other than in perfect accordance with the expressions used by him in that House. Mr. HUME would not occupy the House with dis putes as to the speeches or writings of individuals. They had had quite enough of such discussions. There were parts of the Bill that he cordially approved of. All he wished to ask was, whether the Noble Lord would abate five words of it which he objected to? He looked upon the change of the punishment of death, proposed by the Bill in cases of felony by high treason, to be an improve ment. But the five words which he objected to would, if retained, be likely to subject brave and honest men to the punishment of felony. Those words were " by open and advised speaking." If the Noble Lord would agree to withdraw those words, there could be no objection to the Bill. If otherwise, ho should oppose it. Whilst they were improving legislation, by the diminution of the number of punishable political crimes, the measure before the House went directly to increase them. If he, sitting at his table, were advisedly to utter opinions at variance with the law he would be liable to transpor tation, tinder the present Bill. He recollected that Mr. Muir had been transported, in 1796, on a similar charge, which, by the Scotch law of sedition, was proved upon him by his woman servant. The practice of that day and the law under which the convictions of Muir and the other Scotch Reformers were procured were de nounced by Lord Holland as infamous, and in fact that particular offence styled leasing making was subse quently abolished and erased from the statute-book. But the present Bill would revive that offence unless the words he pointed out were omitted. It was always unwise to pass a se vere l aw on an emergency. If the Noble Lord had received secret infor mation on which he could rely that danger was to be apprehended, let him ask for a Bill for a few months, but he would venture to say, that the Crown and property would be more secure under the present law than under any that the Noble Lord could devise. Secret societies would be the result of the proposed Bill, and so would espionage, as had formerly been the case, whereby the annals of the kingdom were stained. If the Bill passed as it at present stood, the country would be subject to the same perils that had menaced foreign countries, and from the same causes. In France it was the suppression of truth and of public opinion that had sprung the mine which blew the Go vernment there to atoms. Let the Ministers beware ! The present Bill was a step in the same direction that was followed by the French Government. But at the same time he must say that he instituted no comparison between the middle classes of England and of France, and he regretted to see a Bill introduced by which a doubt was thrown over the honesty and loyalty of the middle classes. The Government and the aristocracy would be lost if the middle classes did not stand by them, and he hoped to see the latter insist upon bringing forward measures to ameliorate the con dition of the lower orders. Be did emphatically say that the present was not the time to bring forward such a Bill. The manifestation of that day ought to prove sufficient to induce the Government to withdraw the Bill. At the same time, he did not think there ought to be a National Convention sitting. He was anxious to give the labouring classes a right to vote, and at the same time to raise the standard of their intellectual at tainments. He had often said that he would allow a man to say what he liked, provided he kept his hands off.—(Laughter.) He did not think that Government would gain in public opinion by this attempt to strengthen the law. They should trust the people of England, and they would be loyal; but, restrain their expression of opinion, gag them, and he must confess that he for one dreaded the consequences that might ensue. The main offence created by this Bill was the attempt to overawe Parliament. Why, how had the Reform Bill been obtained? Was it not by overawing Parliament?—(Hear.) Without continually overawing, plaguing, and teasing Parliament, nothing was ever ob tained for the people. If the Noble Lord and the Go vernment were afraid of the Convention, why not use the law as it stood? By the 39th Geo. 111. it might be put down at once, and why not use that law ?—(Hear, hear.) The same law existed in England, Scotland, and Ireland. He thought that Government had been badly advised, and that the Police Commissioners had acted most improperly in appealing to an Act so obsolete and tyrannical as the 13 Charles IL If that Act was to be revived, the people of England should know what they had to expect. In Blackstone, volume 1., page 142, the Act was described as providing " That no petition to the King, or either House of Parliament, for any alteration in Church or State, shall be signed by above twenty persons, unless the matter thereof be ap proved by three justices of the peace, or the major part of the grand jury in the country ; and in London by the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Common Council ; nor shall any petition be presented by more than ten persons at a time. Was it possible that Government could mean to revive such a law as that ?—(Hear, hear.) They might contend it was law, but he contended by b ded it wa ß sno o t, being repealed with oth e r :arbitrary laws Rights. t 0 Lord That w bl a a s thnsfieelod.pien of The io Act Mr. further Dieeeng op posedpreosvidedtbhya a t any a i l n ty fr i o n f g e t o m o e i n t and ts tb provisions t bwsa, simprisonmentsite recently aad had, pre sented o f foreee a h p o e fi t 'e it e i e o e n . , siVgnheyel he e y h 4 e a d o h p l e m rs s o e n lf s, insist s t o f o n t heA e. c ll o e ur t s r e o , ou s b te r dtb g a h t t G him ov s e e r i n f m w e i n th t in wo th o e ld o n p o er t at il i g so absurd and despotic a piece of legislation. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that his Hon. Friend the Member for Montrose must have misunder stood the intention of the Bill. He was sorry that there should be on the part of his Hon. Friend, and the Hon. Member for the Tower Hamlets any departure from the general feeling of the House, which was to secure the safety of the country without any injury to the consti• tution. The Hon. Member for the Tower Hamlets complained that ten new felonies would be created by the Bill, and his Hon. Friend the Member for Montrose deprecated it as an invasion of the right of petition. But the Bill did not interfere with the legitimate right of petition or of discussion, nor would it touch the case of persons who might in moments of eloquence be induced to use words which their sober reason would regret. The Bill, with the exception of four words, was identical with the 57th George 111. The first part was not touched. The additional clause was, " Who shall intend to levy war against her Majesty fur the purpose of compelling her, by force, to change her measures or coun cils, or for the purpose of military force or constraint on, or intimidating, or overawing, her Go vernment." The mode by which such intention was to be expressed, was, " By writing, or open and ad vised speaking." Therefore, no speaking would come within the meaning of the Act, unless it should, in the opinion of a jury, be uttered for the purpose of levying war, or of compelling that House, by force, to take measures which it would not otherwise adopt.—(Hear, hear.) It was to be observed that, under the present law such offence would be treason, but he admitted that the offence was rather difficult of proof. The difficulty of obtaining an accurate report of words spoken would operate in the present Bill, but that, he believed, would be a species of protection to the persons accused,—(Oh, oh.) Besides, the offence must be proved to the satis faction of a common jury, and be did not think that such a jury would be got to convict unless the proof were of a most satisfactory character. He admitted t hat " open and advised" were rather vague expressions.— (Hear, hear.) If a man, addressing a public meeting, said, " You ou g h t to go down in a body to the House of Commons with your petition," he did• not think a jury would convict; but if he said, " You will never ob tain redress unless you organize a force and a con spiracy," an d i f ' he repeated such advice after due warning, th en i n hi s (the Solicitor-General's) oyini would that would be open and advised speaking , that and insure a conviction from a jury. Ile m exceptthe i r n d s cases objected whereto twbeem offencel d n e v w never insureasso a bf a i conviction os t ast o leave but e n d t tb oub i t n o k n t t b h a e t m g i r n ea d t a st o its advantage would character. Hecould f a r o m fa n t o r i e e a d s ott dignityi to felony.result from Therew changing a was a m did sru n oc o h t ao a eff t e t ec a n c ce h ees t d o felony. To see k aboutdis whichsoottrieoenweasa weakness of human nature, and with every respect for the sincerity of the Hon. Member f or Li m erick, he did believe that personal notoriety was one of his principal motives for the course he was at present pursuing. —(Loud cheers.) No more striking proof of this could be found than in the fact that when he and his associates were held to bail in a sum of 200/. to answer a charge of sedition, they were quite offended, and exclaimed, " We meant it to be treason."—(A laugh.) It would not be a less serious offence as sedition, it would merely be one of a more vulgar description.—(Hear.) One word with respect to the 13th Charles 11. The Hon. Member for Montrose had asked whether the prohibiting the presen tation of a petition signed by 20 persons would be con tinued ; but he might as well ask whether the amount of prerogative then enjoyed by the Sovereign was to be preserve d ? Lie had only tp repeat that the Bill had t only reference t o " open and advised speaking, " with i tendency to induce persons to levy war, to compel the Sovereign or the Legislature to change or abandon measures which they might think conducive to the wel fare and happiness of the country. Mr. HUME asked whether "open and advise I !peak ing" was felony under the present law ? The SOLICITOR-GENERAL—It is treason. Mr. HUME—Under what Act? The -Open rand advised speaki ng , accompanied by overt Lets,is treason uucer the present law. Sir R. INGLIS supported the Bill. He thought it was high time that the treasonable proceedings w hich had been going on for some time should be put a stop to.—(Hoar, hear.) They would not have been so Itag permitted in a n y ot h er country, or underlthe most ReP, llh % lican Government i n the world.---(Hear, hear.) 11 ' Hon. Friend the Member for Montrose had said that he would allow a man to say what he liked p r ovided be, kept his hand s o ff . He asked his Ho n . Friend woul d he remain quiet while two men consulted how he wig" easiest be knocked down ? His Hon. Friend had als° said that this Bill would change the character of poll- . tical agitation, th a t speeches would be made in holes and corners with only the Government spies for au diences; Be it so; then th ey wou ld not do so much mischie f a when utterrd in public to myriads of misguided p e reons He held in hi s h an d a number of such speeches wh i c h loudly called for legislative interference; and here, although not accustomed to allude to the public Pres''' he must express his thanks to the conductors of th° Herald, Times, an d, i n d ee d , all the journals w hi c h he was in the habit of seeing, for their exertions in Po [noting the cause of peace and order. Man of those speeches w ere attr ib uted to the Hon. Member for Limerick, who, i n hi s (Si r R . Inglis ' s) view, defied pub i opinion in this country and in the House.—(Hear, hear.) When that Hon. Member had risen, be (Sir R. was prepared for one, to ask whether the House would not require from the Hon. Member some explanation of his recent cond uct i n a ne i ghbouring country before h • was permitted to address it. It was true that the HO; Member had toward s th e c l ose o f h i s speech offer"- some sort of vindication. Such as it was it had been listened to by the House with a feeling which the Hone Member would be able to appreciate.—(Hear, hear' ) . The Hon. Member had said " I went to France to con; gratulate the people on having regenerated the spirit of independence, which I trust will react on my own coin; try." Now, these words had a meaning or they he t ! not. If they had a meaning, was it not that recent events in France might lead to the establishment of re' publican institutions in Ireland?—(Hear, hear.) Mr. S. O'BRIEN had only to repeat that at present he only sought for Ireland a Government by the Queen, Lords, and Commons of Ireland, but, whatever his owl feelings might ho, he believed that if that were refused a republic would be the result. Sir R. INGLIS believed that he had not misinter preted the Hon. Member's expressions. He had only to say, in conclusion, that he gave his hearty support to the Bill as it stood, and he trusted that, for the sake of catching a f ew stray votes, the Government would n° , l consent to neutr a li se any o f i ts provisions. They 13 been taunted for weeks with giving encouragement to malcontents in both divisions of the empire, and their defence had been, that in the existing state of the lavr they had iso power of suppression. He trusted, then, that having the Bill so nearly within their grasp they would not part with it, but would administer it with s reverend regard for p roper and sound constitutional liberty. Mr. ANSTEY would support the Bill for the reasons so ably stated by his Hon. and Learned Friend the Soli- , citor-General. In answer to the Hon. Member for Mote trose, he begged to state, that under the existing law i punishment might b e f oun d for the offences named n the Bill. The measure of the Government was intended to mitigate the severities of the existing law—there was nothing in it that contradicted any principle of our con stitution. It was an improvement not only on the law al established by ancient decisions, but it was an improve' went on the statute of Edward 11., and brought us bank nearer to those days when treason itself was not $ capital offence, by creating an intermediate offense between sedition and high treason. He looked on th! Bill as an offering to the tolerant spirit of the age, and as an inducement to the people to support the Govern' went in their present wise and moderate course for tho suppression of crime, and he should therefore support it. Mr. AGLIONBY considered that Ministers had con sulted the welfare of the public in introducing this Bili —(lean) The objecti on t o t h e t hi r d clause, which re ' ferred to words wr i tten an d pu b lished or spoken openl y and advisedly, appeared to be made under an entire mss' apprehension of the effect of that clause. The offence was made penal only when the object was, by levying war, to make an attempt against the life or liberty 0 ' the Sovereign, or to overawe the Parliament, or tA3 incite foreigners to invade this country. With regal to written words, there was sufficient protection to the accused, for unless th e y were p u bli s h e d as vs ? as written, no offence was committed ; and if pub' lication took place, the parties ought to be Pull' ished. Then as to spoken words. It was not in; tended by this clause, nor would it have the effect o f preventing the free expression of opinion, unless such expression was calculated to incite to the levying of l a ', for the purposes stat e d, an d was ma d e pu bli cly. It w ould not punish a man (as had been contended) for speaking his sentiments at his own dinner-table, however ex trenr, those sentiments might be, unl ess h e a dd resse d himself to multitudes, and endeavoured to incite them to lei's war against the Governm en t, i n w hi c h case h e oug ht . t be punished.—(Hear, hear.) A jury would always dl°; tinguish bet ween th e open and fea r l ess ex p ress ion 01 ' opinion and words intended as an incitement to levy . viLsr,7, First, there was a safeguard in the word " advised, which would prevent intentions being attributed which might never have existed; and then there was the effect. tual safeguard of a British jury, who would always dirt tinguish between expressions used in the heat of argu ment, and expressions used " advisedly," and with in' tent. He was, however, of opinion that the punishment of transportation for life was too severe for the offence: and he proposed to move an amendment in Committee to assimilate the Bill, in respect to punishment, more to the 5 and G Vic., which had been passed for putting an end to those mad attempts which had previously pre" veiled of shooting at the Sovereign.—(Hear, hear.) Te the principle of the measure, he, however, gave a hearty support. Lord NUGENT, though concurring in the measure generally, thought the third clause did not provide suta• eient security against the errors of the reporter or th° malice of the informer—and he proposed to move a pro' vise, which should render it necessary, before any pro' secution could take place in respect to treasonable or seditious words spoken, that the report of the short' hand writer or other person who took down the words, should be submitted to the speaker, either immediatelf• or within a week after they were spoken, for him to admit, deny, or explain, such admission, denial, and explanation signed by him, to be used as evidence no the trial, and in the event of the party charged refusing to admit, deny, or explain, the report to be taken correct. Mr. B. OSBORNE had voted for the introduction of the Bill, but when the measure was put into his heed* that morning, and he saw the words " or by open or ed vised speaking," he was so struck with the gravity and weight of the novel principles which they proposed 5 0 introduce into our system of government that he deter mined on voting with what he feared would be the ad" nority on the present o ccasion.—(llear. hear.) When they were voting for the better security of the Crown, they should not forget the security of the people. Pass such an Act as this, and they could not insure that security of the people, which, to endanger, would be to strike a blow at the safety of the Crown and the Go vernment.—(Hear.) There was another reason eh, they should pause before they affirmed this Bill. Go• vernment was too apt to take advantage in their legislae tion of the excitement occasioned by passing events. Laws passed under the influence of excitement wet* usually passed in haste, and were seldom good laws. As was proposed to be done in this case, they were hurried through with less consideration than was usually give* to a common turnpike trust Act. The Noble Lord (Lord J. Russell) seemed to have forgotten what Mr. Burke had said, as to open and advised speaking. Mr. Burke said, " that open and advised speaking was the safety-valve of the constitution, by means of which the foul air was let off." If, however, he (Mr. B. Osborne) wanted a reason for voting against the measure, it was fur nished by the speech of the Solicitor General, which was a mere piece of special pleading as to the meaning which a jury would probably attach to the wards. Another lawyer, the Hon. and Learned Member for Youghal (Mr. Anstey), had told them that the only alteration the Bill would effect in the present law was to mitigate its severity—inasmuch as open and advised speaking was now treason. But the Hon. and Learned Member forgot to add such open and advised speaking must bo followed by an overt act of treason to comp:etc the offence.— (Hear, hear.) England, however, did not owe her liberties to lawyers, and if the House depended on them now they would impair the securities of the people, not better the security of the Crown. They had heard much of the respect due to the Crown, and be e was not deficient in sttehonattthofreedeelirn people he would to the co untr y, his hoped s t w h u h e p ep C no r r O tt h w i et n, maintainedfo g the d i t u ps t r y e . duty g of th S i o ng lo s l ; ig ba a : obligations and respect ceased. A near relative of the Prime Minister, the present Duke of B e df or d, had, in 1818, wh en Marquis of Tavistocks laid it down that not iu restricting the liberties of the ele.'" In that sentiment he f u ll y concurred, and he hop e d the House would not be induced, under the circumstances of the country, to restrict those liberties by legislatirg in * spirit adverse to the institutions of the country.—(Hear.) He could not permit th e speech of the Right Hon. Ba-. ronet (Sir G. Grey) t o pass without some observation. It might do well, f or t h e purpose of pros gaining a n a d t e r m i e p h o e r s a r o f cheer, to say th at G overnment entertained the most sincere wish es f or t h e peace, f Ireland. But t h ese were mere wo p rds. y' What had Mie nisters done to ca rry those wishes into effect? They had been two years in o ffi ce, n( b .o e , v,t) a , at d a ,v r au t n y ned t i n o ogh the eon enr s )o n indolence e eo n l H pr e om he o d te se th p e p oprteeadeet'he presenta:ldinwisitirayt, had d t h th e e w y o d u o ld ne ne t : prosperity, and riches of Ireland ? tellhi c h t,hife Treasury they thadti dt ß hne e oy n t e wt h a; k - - r to e c would a e no o f w care, would. soon explode under them ; and he called upon thetn, if they had not the power or the ability to legislate for the good of the country, to give place to those who had.--(" Hear," and a laugh.) Dr. BOWRING said it could not be denied that this Bill created a new political felony. It was true the 'w ashy of death attached to words inciting to the levying of war against the Crown or to the invasion of the country was proposed to he altered ; but tl.at law was a dead letter.—(Hear, hear.) The Bill would revive the offence and punish it. He wanted security, not in the accidents of a good judge and an intelligent jury, but in the positiveness of the law.—(Hear.) In regard to overt acts of treason, and in what was written