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eight being Catholic towns, whilst Protestant town. , i w oo er k e ed exer a p ted fro m t h e t ax, amount t'r t i :if as aThe symbol o f re li g i ous intolerance.this source of income had increased an -" since 1838 , and it wa s now a b ou t 14,0001. per ml but one cause of that was that the municipal in could not be obtained in Ireland without pay ing this tax, ministers' money; the miserable municipal tranchise could not be enjoyed without this payment; 4 .9 if a reform in the Municipal Act took plate during this se ssion, and th a t suc h a re f orm rendered that pay- Ment unneces sary , t h en i t must fol l ow t h at t h e P rotestant Clergy would be deprived of a large amount of their in ncome, inasmuch as the same motive for paying it would ot exist on the part of the Catholics. The Government ad already settled the latter question, because it had tunulteed such an importance that it was desirable to settle it in order to avoid the shedding of blood; and w ould the G overnment refuse justice to the eight town - W hich paid m i nisters ' money, because those eight towns wer e not powerful enough to make a similar resistance to p t hat which was made by the whole country against the is t i et r Yuleut of tith es ? T he gr i evance o f pay i ng t b - (3° the part of the Catholics was very con and Lord and hal been admitted by Lord Stanley 1 1 1,°(1 „ Lord Eliot is the House of Commons ; and ee " f tig that it was one which ought to be . remov; sMr. Fagan) had prepared a substitute Le amount. The Ecclesiastical Commission bad mad t e ur Turee suggestions; but the first two were inexpedien , i f f .. l3d he therefore adopted the third. The Ecclesiastical t`-; °Lunaissioners in Ireland obtained their revenue from the tax uPen the incomes or the bishops arid clergy of btablished Church; but any mode of providing a sub ni t " , e analogous' to that would not be advisable. The Second proposition o f t h e C omm i ss i oner s was quell"' in reve Pedient, and he wo u ld t h ere f ore suggest that, us the e" ot the E cc l esiast i ca l C omm i ss i oners was rapidly er n easing, D y the de m i se o f th e h o lders of benefices and frebends Which were to cease under the Church Tempo vlciticri Act, a sufficient surplus might be ontgined to , pro t " a substitute for the 13,000/. or 14,000/. at prtsen arh s i n . well f rom the ministers' money. All he asked was to bring in a Bill on the subject. The present. .a,.. fences former Governments, had recognised the exes t r of the grievance, and he therefore considered that first read ? could not be any objectisn to giving 11 0 „ In g , especially as such a course would not i b t i a nd t b te " se to its future adoption. The removal of t grievance would be an earnest to the people of Ireland t hs British Legislature intended to devote its atten sirovViespermanent welfare of that country. inle t • SOMERVILLE said that he could not forbear able to the temperate tone adopted by the Honour sb l Ge fall fro le the He had not heard one single word h il a z_t !tom his lips calculated to give offence to any Mem s_r 31 1 the House. He was quite aware that different 4.,eFretaries of Ireland had been most anxious to remove ," els cause of complaint. Lord Stanley, the Earl of Sc. ti e l an, and Lord Lincoln were amongst the number. 4t. (Sir W. Somerville) was also most anxious upon clergy subject. He had several communications with the , I tt erg y of _ bee Established Church, who were almost One vier in favour of some change being adopted. cafe to bad indeed gone so far as to communi cii e to him the heads of a Bill for such a purpose; but factor of the plans which they had seen proposed a satis lute ory substitute for the present plan, nor did he think fo " the Honourabl e M ember for Cork had b een more infturtate 114 than tho se w h o preceded him. T he effect of be , tnedfa te abolition o f t h e presen t s y stem might rich to make ,a present of so much money to deriv e owners, whilst the poor proprietors would not or a ny benefit He had not abandoned the hope e He of effecting some • remedy for this .;,tii!vance. Certain returns were at present ordered R A lc h would throw additional light upon the sub;ec.t p e ; w°lll dl therefore, ask his Honourable Friend not t no to t ad severe in his motion ; by doing so, he would 11- r •r ee . his cause. The - Honourable Member for the n notice afni ersity of Dublin (Mr. Hamilton) Lad give but he m a Motio n in the shape of an amendment ; s of i t r W. Somerville) did not consider that the terms w ent far enough. If, however, the motionthe Honourablea Member for Dublin (Mr. Reynolds) . was greed to he Would giv e th e s ubject his most anxious at tention,,at t le. HAMILTON concurred in praising the tempe_re e tone adopted by the Hon. Member for Cork ; h _ t il ) ,l t il d not, however, agree in supporting the abolition of e t axt . from which the clergy of the Established !:!lurch drew their almost exclusive support. He ad. 9itted that some chan was desirable, but the effect of the abolition of ministers' money would be to raise the te n ts of those houses which formerly paid them, Mei b • R;„ e increasing the rents of the owners. d ssece the tax was first imposed property bad change e r)! Much, and, consequently, the tax had become • equall e d. H e was willing to consent to t h e extension O f the labours of the Committee, but he could not con tent to the int r od uct i on of any wor d s i n t o t h e motion rte beingnding to the abolition o f mi n i s t ers ' m on e y, or to that supplied by the appropriation of any of the 4venu: und ofth establish, d church of Ireland. He moved Palan amendment—That a Select Committee be ap ✓ted, to consider and report upon the state and irPeiration of the laws respecting ministers' money it. e " t ld and to report whether any and what amend -4E14 in those laws would be expedient. T he question having been put, * 0 , 1 1. 4 ' POWER thought that his Honourable Friend 1 , 4 have gone far enough, had he contented himself h . 111 4/ Pointing out the injustice and inequality of t - 4 , Pe :t• in question, and then leaving it to Ministers to ut some substitute. As at present levied, the tax (If 3 Putting the clergymen of the English Church into 11,4,1je position, and one from which they were most vertu as to be relieved. Considering the immense re tin °f of the Church, it would be hard indeed unless tv;:`,,substitute for ministers' money could be . found. th e 'l.' not hard that people who made such exertions as to 1 , 1 ' 1 4 did to support the religion which they believed in ti e l t he true one, should be taxed to support a ehurct. 4nd (..! doetrities of which they did not concur.. .Englan d d of h`cotland were free from any such impositions, and adl Ought not to stand alone in the single deformity V ise to support so anomalous a burden. of ti i l i se°ll ut BERNARD doubted whether the revenues a oic Church were at all of that voluntary e is h4 t l l tee tee r th wh l ich the Hon. Gentleman who had . spoken 14 0 nad he them with. As to the question now d 411 _, re the House, he thought the proposal of the Hi; • OfbLertrned Gentleman the Member for the aps e : l ; l3l Ln was one likely to afford an arrangement s ee b th„ - "tig the subject. It was true the valuation by which the Poor; Was collected was an old one, and . fell . heavily on th e ,43°r; but were they to abolish ministers' money p r 6",:,would be leaving a large body of clergy su m b e s n tit u u n te s ore ded for. It was proposed to apply as te:yortion of the funds of the Established a Church, t s l e - ,'"ose funds were not sufficient for the actual and 11 00 \ et wants of the Church.—(Loud cries of " Oh, Why the Commissioners had stated that such t: ' ,;`," fact to Lord Heytesbury.—(Oh, oh.) He hoped ap ‘ ,l° Place of thi s di scuss i on a C omm i ttee wou ld b e itii r t r ° ted, before whom the subject would be fully arid te r j discussed. The real grievance relating to minis is e ll4 °ney was, that it wa s a t ax necessary to b e pa id o e r er to con f er t h e mun i c i pal franchise. He re e j' e t d that he w as ready to agree to the motion for the that no on the solo and simple understanding,teueo pledge, direct o r i nd i rect , s h ou ld b e g i ven, po rted the revenues of the Irish Church. He sup oehd that Church as t h e great prop of the union,— 40 4tr 0 ," .from Mr. Hume.) Th e H on . Member for high e , s e might ch eer , b ut ho supported it also upon that it grounds, because he believed in his conscience opp on Was the true Church, and that the object of its in g th e °ta was to abolish it for the purpose of establish- Di e , e„Church of Rome in its place.—(ob, oh.) or ~UME could not at all agree with the opinions I.lBltinients of the Noble Lord who had just spoken. tha t Tt liume) most deliberately declared his opinion tai or for the Protestant Church in Ireland, main that against the wishes of the majority of the people, m iser country would not be in her present state of Ulm dc_ and destitution. —(Hear, hear.) He believed evils, bunch to ;have been the principal cause of her Ir k i a _ tt ,tid that no peace or order could be expected io _!io till it had ceased to exist. That time, although The"ght not live to see, would soon arrive. —(Hear.) bed t h ad heard statements to the effect that distresses th at "n made on the miserable effects of the poor, and this th "rl it very beds a n d blankets had b een ta k en to pay th e , 4 Y. So great were these evils, that the clerg Pt's nselves objected to this rate. It was certain the y pie did so; an d if the statement as to the clergy e re tru e , t h ere was no reason w h y impost 8.0t1.1/ c ontinued, opposed as it was to the wishes of both hNParties. . It th e sentiments of the Noble Lord were to be en as the type o f th e f ee li ng of his class in Ireland. (Mr. Hume) would indeed despair of that country. -- (ear, h ear .) T h i s was an English and a 'Scotch, 8:" well 'as an Irish question ; and the people would 1 . °1 , 1 ; find out the folly and expense of sending 30,000 tholl?,1011/00 bayonets to Ireland to maintain those who p r f, t with the Noble Lord, and to maintain the p r o Church Establishment. Most deeply did he raret that when Government, in 1833, reform d the they establishment and did away with cess money, askyingdid not remove this impost also. They were for measures of coercion towards Ireland ; but it swe4:livuld be ve‘ll to consider in how fa. they were them the cause of agitation and distillbance there, by refusing to remov e just grounds of complaint. This question had been often before the House, and more than once the Ministry of the day had admitted the grievances complained of churches for which thenre. we W re hy no ali crn l g d reg congregations?— (He t e i y o ns build (Hear, hear.) B e did consider a Committee ne cessary, for the House fully°t consider informed of the nature of the evils:complained ot—.. (Hear, hear)—and:he trusted to hear the Government say that they would in this matter make their firsteace-offering to Ireland—(llear, hear)—that they . would . at once remove those evils, and declare their intention to devote the surplus revenues of the Church to the education and into of the people. Mr. REYNOLDS then rose to address the House but was interrupted by the following occurrence, . reference to nce, with Sir R. INGLIS then resumed the debate on the mo in for a Committee on ministers' money in Ireland. The Hon. Member for Cork had used expressions im- elying that the exaction of ministers' money made it a question whether the ministers of the Church of Ireland were ministers of Mammon or ministers of Christ. Mr. POWER had not spoken of those ministers in such terms as the lion. Baronet supposed. What he had said was that their position had a tendency to make the people look upon them in th light. Sir R. INGLIS thought the Hon. Gentleman bad used the expression historically. What was the nature of ministers' money? It was a tax upon the locality; and, whether raised from Roman Catholics or Protes tants, it was raised without reference to the respective creeds of the parties. Sir G. GREY regretted that much larger and wi - ler questions had been introduced into the discussion than he motion properly demanded. There was a practical grievance which was admitted to exist both by those who received and by those who paid ministers' money. This was not the first time the question had been brought before the House. In 1844, when the Right Hon. Gen tleman opposite was in office, a similar .motion was agreed to; and it was distinctly admitted that the subject was one worthy of the attention of her Majesty's Govern ment. The then Secretary for Ireland stated that their attention had been direeted to it, but that they had not yet succeeded in framing a satisfactory measure. Lord Stanley, then a Member of this House, expressed a hope that in the course of the next session they would be able to propose a remedy. The next session passed over without a remedy being found. The present Go vernment, he was afraid, had not been more successful than their predecessors. The Hon. Member for the Uni versity of Dublin had urged inquiry on behalf of the recipients ; the Member for the city of Dublin on the part of the payers, had also sought inquiry, The Hon. Member for the University of Dublin seemed to object to that part of the motion which implied that sums ought to be taken for the purposes to which ministers' money was now applied out of the funds at the disposal of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners. Instead of point ing at some particalar fund, he (Sir G. Grey) would pro pose that the Committee should be appointed to inquire .‘ whether any and what fund existed which might be applied to the purposes of ministers' money." Mr. REYNOLDS denied that the proposition for a Select Committee to inquire into and report the nature, amount, and appropriation of ministers' money in Ire land, with a view of ascertaining whether any other, and what funci, could be made available for that pur pose, could be called an attack upon the temporalities any more than upon the spiritualities of the Protestant Church. He objected to this ministers' money for two reasons : first, because persons who professed the Roman Catholic religion, the Presbyterian religion, and other creeds into which our common Christianity was divided, were compelled by law to support a religion they dissented from.: He thought the surplus revenue in he hands of the Ecclesiastical Commissior ers could bi made to furnish this 12,000/. Secondly, he objected to , he tax on account of its gross inequality. In the city of Dublin it operated must unjustly, because the houses in the old and decayed parts of the city, formerly of great value, were taxed high, whereas, in the modern, but more valuable parts, the houses were taxed upon a reduced scale. The former were likewise occupied b) Roman Catholics (the poorer portion of the population) Arid the latter by Protestants, so that the injustice was doubled. He asked both sides of the House whether it was worth while to maintain an impost so small in amount, so unjust in its nature, and so insulting to those who were not in communion with the Church of Eng land. Tie tax had another and a more obnoxious lea ure; no man in any borough could enjoy the municipal ranchise unless he paid this tax. He thought the reso lution should be withdrawn, and the proposal of the Right Honourable Gentleman, which was consented t h ersit Honourable Gentleoliin the Member for the Un: of Dublin, aim ed to. Mr: MONSELL hoped the Hon. Member for C irk would persevere in his motion. The injustice of the tax was admitted, and where was the necessity for inquiry ? If inquiry had been proposed into the whole ecclesiasti cal grievances of Ireland, he could have seen the pro priety of it, but inquiry into this particular grievance was not require d. Mr. NAI'IER said the real question was, whether a portion of the property of the Protestant Church of Ire land was to be altogether abolished.—(No, no.) He maintained that this was virtually an attack on the Church Establishment of the United Kingdom; but he stood upon the ground that the Protestant Church of Ireland ought to be at all hazards maintained. MR. FEARGUS O'CONNOR. The Sergeant-at• Arms now appeared at the table, and intimated that the Speaker's order had been ex ecuted, and that Mr. Feargus O'Connor was now ie custody. Sir G. GREY rose and said—Sir, I move that Mr. Feargus O'Connor be discharged out of the custody of the Sergeant-at-Arms, in order that he may attend in his place in this House. The SPEAKER then put the motion, which was agreed to. Mr. O'Coemoa, immediately afterwards entered the House and took his seat. The SPEAKER—Mr. O'Connor, the House has been given to understand that an expression fell from you previous to your leaving this House, in the discus sion of the report of the Committee on Petitions, from which the House is bound to suppose that there was an intention on your part to take hostile proceeding, against an Hon. Member of this House, the Hon. Mem ber for Cirencester, for words spoken in the heat of de bate. I hope you will be able to state to the House that it is not your intention to take any such proeeed ings. It is my duty to inform you that the Hon. Mem ber for Cirencester has already expressed his regret that any language should have fallen from him calculated to give offence, and that it was not his intention to make use of any unparliamentary expressions; and, at the same time, I feel called upon to say that, if those ex pressions had reached my ear, I should have deemed it my duty to call upon the Hun. Member to explain at the time. As you were not in the House when the Hon. Member for Cirencester expressed his regret, I think it is only due to you to call on him to state in your pre sence what he has stated in your absence. Mr. CRIPPS—Sir, I have just to say that I felt, as a member of the Committee, that my conduct wa directly impugned when I heard imputed to that Com mittee conduct of which I knew them to ,be wholly in capable. I have taken a deep interest in the proceed • ings of the Committee, and therefore I perhaps felt the more warmly; but I deeply regret if I have exceeded the line of a Member of Parliament's duty, and the respect due from one Member of this House to another, and from one gentleman to another.—(Hear, hear.) I never en any respect meant to impugn the word of any Hon. Member; but if I have on this occasion, by anything that I have sale, left that impression, I deeply regret it. —(ffeal, hear.) I shall now say, that this is the first time in the whole course of my life I have been betrayed into saying a single word that was capable of injuring the feelings of any individual.—(Cheers.) Mr. O'CONNOR—Sir, I beg to exculpate you alto gether from th e nonpee forniance of your duty; and for this reason, that the words I made use of were,—that I had three duties to perform; one to the House, the other to the Committee, and the third to myself; that, as regarded the House, I hoped they would believe me that I could not be a party to any delusion seeing practised upon them; that, a-i to the Committee. so far from casting any imputation on them, I said there was none whatever chargeable against them. I stated in words as distinct as man could use, that I had done what was my duty to the House and the Com inittee, and without further observations I then left the [louse. lam proud to say that after being in this House in many tempestuous scenes, and lived a life that might have brought me into frequent collisions with others, I have never uttered a word that could give offence to any individual.—(Hear, hear.) On the contrary, I h ave studiously avoided doing so; but I tleMkttliat any Mem ber of this House, placing himself in my situation, would say I was unworthy of holding a seat here if I had not resented the words which were employed. At the same time I am ready to accept the apology which has been made for the unparliamontary language, especially after the concluding observations made by the Hon. Member. —(Hear, hear.) The excitement arising out of this matter being over, I shall entirely forget any insult I may have received. lam not capable of foster ing animosty or permitting any feeling of the kind to rankle in my breast ; but I have a higher duty than even that to perform to myself and the persons whom I represent here. After the ex pression of feeling I have heard this night, it is my duty to state that I will abandon my motion for to-morrow, and that I shall not found any motion on that petition but shall l eave the question to be settled b e t ween th e Gov ernment and the- country, and between the Com mittee and those whosen l t the petition. I had no reason it be with my consent to doubt the statement hat m a a n d y e to the House, .nor would tised. But one thin t I may state fairly and frankly, delusion should be prat pp t osed to be the duty of every Hon. Member scrupuloeu,Ssir remembero examine every petition he s i gned by 3,373,000 persons was laid when a petition presents to the House o ab n the floor of this petition until it was not now in House, and the Hon. Member for Fin impossible, then his place, never saw thai, f s o o r laid on t the floor. It was physically see all the eigngtures, or ti) be iu pituati9u tQ asimsuroe MR. O'CONNOR. The SPEAKER called the attention of the House to the order of the day, that Mr. O'Connor be ordered to attend in his place forthwith. It was desirable to know Whether the order had been served on the Hon. Member. the --(H order had He called on the Sergeant to state wh et h er been served. The S ergeant -at . Arms i n f orme d the Home that th e order had been served. Mr. Gossett. the messenger, having been called, Mr . SPEAKER.—Have you served the order of the °use on M r . O'C onnor, the Hon. Mem b er f or Not t?—l~ham?—l have. t w : M r. SPEAKER . —Wh en was t h e or d er serve d ?—At t , t ' . ;' 3 ' minut es b e f ore seven o ' clock. roteany]N S PEAKER—Did the Ho n . M em b er ex pr e ss he di d o tion to obey the order of the House P—No ; r. At the SPEAKER--Where was the order served ? m r Pee of the Northern Star. 84vi hiZktliEß—Dicl you see him personally the House as to the entire accuracy of that petition.— (Hear, hear.) I state this to show that I was not wil lingly a parry to any delu-ion, and that I could not by possibility avert that with which I was charged. I ate glad I did not allow myself to be led away by that ex citement which the Hon. Member presumes I was the cause of, when he says the veracity of the Committee had been impugned ; and now, as he has performed his duty as a gentleman and a Member of Parliament, I will per form mine, and I tell him that he is in error if he sup poses that I cast any imputation on the Committee.— (Hear, hear.) Having now shown that there was no foundation for the charge made against me, I have estab lished better grounds for the retraction of that charge. MINISTERS' MONEY. Mr. NAPIER then resumed his observations in refer ence to the motion on this subject. He took his stand on the Act of Union, and asked a Protestant House of Commons not to agree to the proposition now made to it, which would have the effect of weakening the Pro testant Church in Ireland. He asked the House where, but for the Established Church, would be the connexion between the two countries? The Protestants of Ireland did not send Members there to declaim against England or to denounce Imperial policy. He thought that any inconvenience or irregularity in the mode of levying or assessing the tax should be rectified. He had no objec tion to make it just and fair, to transfer it like the rent charge from the occupier to the owner, or to assent to any proposal for its amendment which did not involve its total abolition. Mr. SHEIL made great allowance for the vehemence of the Honourable and Learned Gentleman who had just addressed the House, having come hot and reeking from the hustings of the University- of Dublin, but the Honourable Gentleman would forgive him for telling him that many who had heard him would lament the resignution of the Right Honourable Frederick Shaw. The Honourable Gentleman was mistaken in supposing that the proposition made to-night for the abolition of ministers' money involved the abolition of any part of the Church property. It did not. It was not proposed by any man in that House to de prive a single Protestant clergyman, performing duties in the respective towns of Ireland charged with mini sters' money, of a single shilling of his revenue. Nay, more, it was not proposed that the successors of the Actual incumbents should be deprived of their revenue, oecause the clergy in the great towns of Ireland were not sinecurists; they had real duties to perform; and he was not acquainted with a single Roman Catholic gen deman who held that a Protestant clergyman ought not to be paid in a manner most fully commensurate with the functions he had to discharge.—(Hear, hear.) The real question to be considered was, whether a most obnoxious tax—admitted to be so on all hands—might not be abolished consistently with the principles preferred by Hon. Members on the other side of the House. In his ludgment the ecclesiastical fund in the hands of the Commissioners was fully adequate to discharge every purpose to which it had been applied, and might be used in the same way as it was employed for the pur pose of removing cburch-cess, an impost of the most grievous and galling kind. By the Church Tempo ralities Act it was provided that churoh-cess should be abolished, yet that impost was not of so ibnoxious a character as this, it being a charge at com mon law whereas this was statut or y. Th e A ct pro vided that churches should be built, small livings aug tnented, and diocesan schoolmasters supplied with the means of livelihood, and that without trenching on church property. Could it possibly be maintained that they would be alienating church property, when they proposed to apply to an ecclesiastical purpose the same 'and which was used for other ecclesiastical purposes? He did not coincide with his Right Hon. Friend the iecetary for Ireland, when he said he did not believe the Eccesiastical fund could be used in substitution for the impost. Sir W. SOMERVILLE—I never said anything of the kind. Mr. SHEIL begged pardon, and was glad to find he was mistaken. He had the accounts before him, and they furnished this statement. The Ecclesiastical Com missioners were authorised by Act of Parliament to borrow 100,0001. from the Board of Works; that the debt had been reduced to 40,0001.; last year they paid 10,0004 in liquidation of that debt. What, then, was it requisite to do? To leave the debt of 40,0004 standing, to pay the interest of that at five per cent., and to abolish ministers' money until a new fund should arise. But there was a new fund as it was. The Eccle siastical Commissioners stated in their last report that upon the death of the present Bishop of Clogher their 'unds would be augmented by the sum of 8,6801. a year. Why should they not pay the interest on that debt, and abolish ministers' money? On the death of the Bishop f Clogher they would come into the receipt of 8,8604 a year ; and why should they not then be able to re plenish the coffers of the Established Church ?—(Hear, hear.) If this was practicable, why should the abolition af so odious an impost be stigmatised as robbery of the Established Church? The Church Temporalities Act ,night be amended, and ought to be amended. Was the House, was the country, aware that by the Church Temporalities Act larger revenues were secured to the Bishops of Ireland than to the Bishops of England?— (Hear, hear.) It was understood that the Bishops of England were to receive no more than 5,0004 a year. But how were the Irish Prelates paid? Take the case of the Archbishop of Armagh. Before the enacting of he Act in question, his revenue was 16,0001. a ,ear. It had been reduced ay the Act, but it still amounted to as large a sum as 12,000/. That, to oe sure, was the case of an Archbishop. But take the case of the Bishop of Derry. When that prelate was appointed, it was stipulated that he should acquiesce in any terms which the Government might , hiult tit to propose. The condition they imposed was hat he should pay 4,000/. a year into the ecclesiastical fund. The balance, however, was worthy of acceptance, The splendid residue amounted to 8,000/. a year, and hat sum was secured to him and his successor. Not one shilling would he (Mr. Sheil) take from that meritorious Christian bishop—(Laughter) —but he was most decidedly of opinion that the revenue of his suc cessor ought to be curtailed—(Hear, hear)—and so it should be with all the Irish bishoprics. The revenues of the Irish bishops exceeded those of the English. Was he to be told that that anomaly ought to continue? Assuredly it ought not. But to go back to the tax. ('here was a remarkable historical tact connected with it, which showed how obnoxious and detestable it had ever been considered. The circumstance had been already referred to by the Hon. Member for Cork; but as the House was thin at the time, he would make no apology or repeating the allusion. The Catholic Parliament of James 11., tollowing the exampleof the ProtestantParlia merit that bad gone before it, seized the whole of the Church property for Catholic purposes. The property ~f the Protestant Church was transferred to Catholic priests. But what was done with ministers' money? Was it too transferred to the priests? No; the Act of James 11. expressly recited that ministers' money was not recognised by the common law, that it was imposed by statute, that it was a grievous imposition, and in conformity with the wishes of all parties it was de clared to be abolished ter ever.—(Hear, hear.) The thorn was small, but it was attended with peculiar ex acerbation.—(Hear, hear.) He would advocate its entire abolition. He was as convinced as that he was speaking hat moment, that unless the ecclesiastical institutions of Ireland were modified, unless Government dealt boldly and promptly with respect both to the Protestant and the Catholic Churches, wretched, paltry, and temporary measures of amelioration might be applied; but that for the evils of Ireland they would not be able to devise an effective cure.—(Hear, hear ) Mr. CALLAGH XN supported the motion. The tax -vas felt to be a badge of servitude, and a galling injus• lice; and in the name of the Irish people, he called on the House to abolish it altogether. Mr. GROGAN objected to the mode of settlement suggested by the Right Hon. Gentleman the Master of the Mint. It would not do to abolish minister's money, and to substitute payment out of the ecclesiastical fund. ('hat fund was already a portion of the revenues of the Jhurch, and if it were to be applied to other purposes han those to which it was at present aliecated, in order hat ministers' money might be abolished, it was clear hat the 12,000/. a year now received under that head would be alienated from the Church. Mr. SPEAKER—When you served the order, did he make no answer ?—He did. Sir R. H. INGLIS— What was his answer ?—(Cries of " Order !") I believP I ana entitled by the rules of the House to ask that question ?—He asked what would be the consequence if he did not attend. Mr. SPEAKER—What you say ?—I told him that quite chipPodea on the pleasure of the House. Mr. SPEAKER—You may withdraw. Sir G. GREY—In consequence of the statement just made by the messenger who served the order of the House on the Hon. Member for Nottingham, I have to move, in accordance with the invariable practice of the House %% hen an Honourable Member is ordered to at tend in his place, and declines to comply with the order, " That Feargus O'Connor, Esq., Member for Notting ham, having been ordered to attend the House forth with, having been duly served with the said order and having neglected to attend accordingly, be taken into custody by the Sergeant-at-Arms attending the House." Mr. HUME suggested that the Hon. Member might be directed to attend to-morrow.—(Cries of " No, no.") Sir G. GREY observed that two hours had elapsed since the order had been served; and, if the Hon. Mem ber for Nottingham had any intention of attending be would probably have done so. If he (Sir G. Grey) re collected aright, the statement of the messenger was, that it was not the intention of the Hon. Member to attend. When the Hon. Member was taken into cus tody it would et p >ar what was the real state of the case ; an 1, should the House then see fit to discharge him from custody, nothing would have happened to in , , erfere, at least, ~ ith his Parliamentary duties. The motion was then aereed to. MINISTERS' MONEY. Dod, J Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL was of opinion that the tax was a grievance in principle, and that it was inflicted tinder circumst , inces which aggravated its injustice, the burden being heaviest on these towns where Catholics tnost abounded. Mr. J. O'CONNELL did not rise to reply to the heroics of the lion. and Learned Member for the Uni versity of Dublin (Mr. Napier), but merely to say, that if the Right Hon. Gentleman the Alaster of the Mint intended, by anything that had fallen from him that night, to advocate the pensioning of the Catholic clergy, he for one would not give his assent to any such proposi tion. He considered the tax a gross injustice, and therefore would vote for its abolition ; but he did not want to have the revenue that - was realised from it trans rerred to the clergy of his own Church. Mr. FAGAN replied. He believed that an inquiry before a Select Committee would not satisfy the people uf Ireland on this question; they would be content with nothing short of a repeal of the Act of Charles. The Hods() then divided, when there appeared-- For the motion For the amendment Majority - 76 The amendment, with the addition proposed by Sir W. SOMERVILLE, was then agreed to. STAMFORD ELECTION. Mr. WOOD postponed till after Easter his motion for a Select Committee to inquire into the allegations of cer tain petitioners, complaining of the interference of the Marquis of Exeter at the late and former elections for the borough of Stamford. LYME• REGIS ELECTION. On the motion of Mr. HUME. The Clerk read the resolutions of the Select Com mittee on the Lyme-Regis election petition, which charged Mr. John Attwood with bribery; and The HON. MEMBE R then proceeded to say that a pe• tition had been presented from the inhabitants of the borough praying that an immediate and searching in quiry be made into the proceedings of Mr. Attwood at the late election, in order to relieve the constituency from the consequences of any erroneous impressions. By the 49th George 111. c. 118, it was enacted that if any person paid, promised, or gave any sum of money to procure his return, he should for every such gif t , payment, or promise, forfeit the sum of 1,0001. There P arli a was the clearest evidence of promises in this cases. I t was further enacted that if any person promised to pro cure any office or gift, in order to procure the return o f itin meat.such pe T rs h o e n, bo h r e ou s g h h ou h l a d d bueotinin this eliib leto s case been disfran chised, but all those gifts and promises had been clearly proved, and there was a standing order of the House, declaring that the House would proceed with the utmost activity against any person, whether the Member or not, who should be guilty of those cor rupt practices. If precedents ware required, he would refer to the glee of Mr. Henry Swan, for the borough .of Penryn, in the year 1819. Only one cast , was there REMOVAL OF ALIENS BILL. proved, yet the Attorney-General was ordered to pro secute him. Again, in the case of Sir M. Imprz borough of Barnstaple, who was similarly proceeded against, These cases, however, were nothing in corn parison with the Lyme Regis case, where it appeared that upwards of 100,0002 had been laid out in the pur chase of houses in order to secure votes, not for Mr. i Attwood only, but for any person Mr. Attwood might recommend. He begged to move, therefore, that tin e Attorney-General be instructed to prosecute John Att wood, Esq., for bribery andpractices at the last election for Lyme Regis. corrupt Mr. P. W 001) seconded the motion. in the g, An following are the provisions of the 8.11, intituled move) nAct to authorise, during a limited time, the Re of . ‘liens from the Realm :" [The Bel was laid on the table of the House of Lords by ll tlie Marquis of Lansdowne, on Monday night.] parlia h l er ee e tn i p s it is expedient that provision should be made n . certain cases, and for a time to be limited, respecting aliens arriving or resident in this kingdom. Be it andnacte.d by the Queen's Most Excellent Majeaty. by and with th o e raa a si lv m ice and consent of the Lords Spiritual u P nder tits the same and bled , Commons, aod by , that when and so oftetnhineas authorityt one of. presenth her rf Mr. BANKES said the cases which the Hon. Member %l a " had quoted were not precedents. Mr. Swan and Sir LiejuetstY's principal Secretaries of State, or the Lord- Manasseh Lopez had both been unseated for bribery ; art of f nant or other chief governor or governors of that but Mr. Attwood was only collaterally implicated. He United Kingdom called Ireland. by warrant did not say that a person collaterally implicated should s or their hand or hands respectively, to , h h a n Published in the London or Dublin Gazette, as not be prosecuted ; but he did say that it was a matter which should not be hastily adopted, and he was not i„enicase nutY be, shall direct that any alien or therefore satisfied with the meagre statement which the ma y hereafter who may be within this realm, or who to ouict e t r i iaaol iend shall arrive know i n t g h l e y re a i n n d , w s h il a fu ll ii d y e r p e a f r u t s e t h o i r s n r e e g a l l: e n t , Hon. Gentleman had made. The matter would car_ within time limited in such warrant, and any taint y have been much better brought forward by the any member of the Committee ever was aouttehndi'vin.artuh7s realm. or any part thereof, co , teary to chairman of the Committee. He was not aware that obedience to such warrant,. or shall be put it to the Hon. Gentleman whether it would not be , more fair to postpone his motion to some future time. . ua jest , rant, it shall be lawful for any of her Mr. HUME said if any one thought it unfair to pro Lieutenant or Secretaries of State, or the Lerd present, and he other chief governor or governors ceed at present he was quite ready to postpone his ~f Ireland,. or his or their chief secretary, or motion. He had no personal feelin but was actuated for an- g, y Justice of the peace, or for the mayor or solely by a sense of public duty. chief magistrate of Sir GEORGE GREY suggested that i t wo uld be a li en to be arrested, any city or pl ace , t o cause every suc h rested, and to be committed to the Co 1 mon better for the Hon. Member not to adjourn the motion. gaol of the county but to withdraw it, an d to b ring it on again at some arrested, there to or pla ce w h ere he or she shall he co remain, without bail or mainprise, future time. until he or she shall be Mr. HUME then w ithd rew the motion. .f b e i ng sent out of h taken in charge f o r th e p ur p ose COUNTY COURTS. wafter given.. t e realm, under the authority here- Mr. COCHRANE moved for leave to bring in a Bill And beit enacted, that every such alien so knowingly to amend the law relating to the recovery of small and wilfully refusing or debts in Engla n d, th e 9 t h and 10th Victoria. H e was to any such warrant as anfresaid eglacting to p a y d ue o b e di ence of opi n i on th a t t h e grossest injustice had been i n - realm contrary to such vio•, r being found in this arrant, shall be guilty of a flitted under this Act, and it was much harder upon misdemeanour, and being the poor man than the sth and 6th Vic discretion of the Court, adjudged be conyicted thereof, shall, at the to suffer imprison toria, which abolished imprisonment for debts talent for any time not exceed under 201., and for which this was a substitute. It was offence, and not exceeding twe r i i, one month for the first ye months for the second his intention originally to have moved the entire repeal and any subsequent offence. of this monstrous Bill, but he proposed now to move the And be it enacted, that it shall be lawful for any one insertion of two clauses. The first clause provided that ef her Majesty's principal Secretaries of State, or the no person should be imprisoned except on the debtors' Lord Lieutenant or chief governor or governors of Ire side of the gaol, and that the imprisonment should be land, in any case in which he or they shall apprehend limited to three days for each instalment of debt. The that any alien will not pay immediateobedience to any second clause limited the fine for contempt of court to 2/. such warrant as aforesaid, or in any case where any instead of 51., or in default seven days' imprisonment, as alien shall have been arrested or committed for at present refusal or neglect to obey any such warrant Sir G. GREY said if the Hon. G en tleman had adhered or shall have been convi c t e d of such refusal' to his original int en ti on o f mov i ng th e re p ea l o f t h e Bill, or neg l e ct, and either before o r a f ter such alien shall he should certainly have opposed it, because he believed have suffered the punishment inflicted for the same by the measure had p rove d h ig hly b ene fi c i a l, an d th a t th e warran t u nder his hand and seal, t o g i ve such alien ;T) courts had been much appreciated by those who had charge to one of her Majesty's messengers or to any recourse to them. At th e same time, he h a d b een l e d ot h er p erson o r persons to whom he sh a ll t hi nk proper to suppose that there might have been some abuse of to direct such warrant, in order to such alien being con. the powers given by the Act. He was quite ready to veyed out of the kingdom; and such alien shall be admit that the subject required inquiry, and he should so conveyed accordingly; provided always, that where not, therefore, at present oppose the introduction of the such alien (not having been convicted as aforesaid) shall Bill. allege any excuse for not complying with such first men- Mr. G. BANKES thanked the Right Hon. Gentleman tinned a arrant, or any reason why the same should not be for per m itti ng t h e i ntro d uct i on o f the Bill. If the powers enforced, or why further time should be Allowed him for of the A c t had been a b use d , t h e persons guilty of the comply•therewith,it shall be lawful for any one of her rig abuse ought to be punished, Majesty's principal Secretaries of State, or for the Lord After • a short conv e r sa ti on , leave was given to bring in Lieutenant or other chief governor or governors of Ire the Bill. land, to judge of the sufficiency of such excuse or reason, and to allow or disallow the same either absolutely or on such condition as he or they shall think fit; and where such alien shall be in custody under such war rant of any of her Majesty's Seer. taries of State or of the Lord Lieutenant or other chief governor or governors of Ireland as aforesaid, the messenger or other parson in whose custody he shall be, forthwith upon its being signified to him that such ex cuse or reason is alleged by such alien, shall make known the same to such Secretary of State, or to the Lord Lieutenant or other chief governor or gover nors of Ireland as the case may be, who upon receiv ing such notification, or in any case in which he or they shall be informed that any such excuse or reason is alleged by or on behalf of any alien to quit the realm, shall forthwith suspend the execution of such warrant until the matter can be inquired into and determined, and such alien, if in custody under any such warrant, shall remain in such custody until the determination thereon shall be made known, unless in the meantime such Secretary of State, or the Lord-Lieutenant or other chief governor or governors of Ireland, shall make order for the release of such alien, either with or without security. Provided always, and be it enacted, that nothing in this Act contained shall affect any foreign ambassador or other pubic minister duly authorised nor any domes tic servant of any such foreign ambassador or public minister, registered as such according to law, or being actually attendant upon such ambassador or minister, nor any alien who shall have been continually residing within this realm for seven years next before the passing 'if this Act. And be it enacted, that this Act shall continue in force for one year from the passing thereof, and until the end of the then next session of Parliament. And he it enacted, that this Act may be repealed or amended in the present session of Parliament. ANNUAL INDEMNITY BILL. On the motion of Mr. PARKER, leave was given to bring in this Bill. The other orders were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at Half-past Twelve until Twelve o'clock to-day, EMIGRATION TO AUSTRALIA. On Wednesday a meeting was held at the rooms of the Royal Society of Literature, for the purpose of forming a body to promote emigratisn from the United Kingdom to the Australian colonies, and that an endeavour should he made to effect this object by interesting parishes, unions, public and private bodies, landlords, country gentlemen, and others, in an undertaking so beneficial to all classes of her Majesty's subjects. The chair was taken by the Hon. F. Scott, M.P. In commencing the business of the meeting, the HON. CHAIRMAN observed that the best way for him to ac quaint the assembled parties with the objects and in tentions of the proposed scheme would be to road the prospectus, which, although it was but a meagre out line, would still serve to show what was intended. It appeared from this prospectus that the expenses of emigration to Australia was defrayed from the pro ceeds of the Crown lands, and that at present a con siderable emigration to the Australian colonies was being carried on under the guidance of Government, in consequence of a large sum now available in those colonies applicable thereto, and the anticipation of a further sum to be raised for the same purpose. The funds contributed exclusively by colonists were limited to procuring that kind of labour which would yield the speediest repayment of their capital, Irrespective of other considerations not less important to the future destinies of the colonies than the present welfare of the mother country. The existing regulations restricted the class of emigrants to single young men and women, or young couples with a very small proportion of children. There were, however, many other classes who would prove most eligible emigrants, and to whom emigration would be a far more necessary boon—viz., agricultural and other la bourers, whit were rendered ineligible by being unable to support themselves and families without parochial assist ance. Many of those who have defrayed the whole amount of their passage money to the United Shales, carry ing thither their small capital and reproductive labour would have doubtless gone to Australia, if the expenses of the voyage had been equal. In Sussex, the emigra tion which was some years ago undertaken by a society for this purpose, had been attended with most benefi cial results; for in Petworth parish the poor -rates had been reduced from 1,4001. to 3001. per annum, and in other parishes where emit , ration had been encouraged, the supply of labour had not exceeded the demand It was therefore confidently believed that an assisted sys tem of emigration would materially call forth sponta neous exertions. One mode by which it was intended to effect this assisted system was, that in cases where eligible emigrants, able to pay the amount requisite to convey them to North America, should be willing to pay down that, or any other sum to be transferred to Australia, such sum being received by the department presiding over emigration, . the emigrant should be carried to Australia, free of all further charge, the de ficiency being supplied from the Colonial Land Fund applicable to emigration; the wants of the colonies, and the eligibility of the emigrants, being taken into consideration; the largest contributors being preferred. This would be an important step, as it would, at a smaller cost to the colony, convey thither a larger amount of labour, and would tend to assure the emigrant that there was no wish to get rid of him, but that it was optional for him to accept such assist ance as would enable him to resort to a healthy climate, and a country where he could at once obtain work and comfortable subsistence. The Chairman said he was sorry to see there were so few Members of Parliament present, but he had been informed that Wednesday was an unfortunate day for such meetings, as the House of Commons usually me t ear l y o h that day. He should not detain them by any address on the good that would cer tainly arise from a more extended system of emigra tion. It would at once form a medium for getting rid of the redundant and superfluous population of the coun try, and improve our manufactures at the various colo nies belonging to the British empire. The Hon. Mr. KINNAIRD then rose to propose the first resolution. Previous, however, to reading it, he stated he was not much astonished to see so thin a meeting; there was an almost universal dislike to the formation of all new societies.. He agreed with the Chairman in his statement, that emigration more fully carried out, would not merely be beneficial to the emigrant, but also to the colonies and tho mother country. He would, therefore submit to them the following resolution:-- " That the Australian colonies, including New Zealand, offer a large and most valuable field for emigration to the distressed and crowded population of this country, and whose emigration to these colonies would be alike a bettering to themselves, and a boon to the colony which receives them. And that to admit of this emigration being carried out to the requisite extent, it was essential that a portion of its expense should he contributed by unions, parishes, and other bodies, together with land lords, or by emigrants themselves. Captain STUART seconded this resolution, stating that he had great pleasure in doing so, as he cordially agreed with its contents. He had resided in Australia for twenty-two years. It was a beautiful country, and presented miles and miles of rich soil ready for the plough. Mr. A. CUNNINGHAM in the absence of Vernon Smith, Esq., M.P., proposed the second resolution, which was to the following effect: —" That in order to carry out this great national object, the meeting should form itself into a society, to be called ' The Labourers' Relief Emigration Society,' tor the purpose of affording such information and aid to those interested as may at mice teach them how great is the gain which each emigration affords to honest industry, and may guide them in the steps necessary to avail themselves of the advantages e thus p resente d . " Mr. Cunningham remar k e d that he thought thought o ne o f t h e most i mportant means by w hich the future society could work was the distribution of tracts and Information, which might load to the obviating of many erroneous opinions entertained wiTh regard to emigration. E. L. BOYD, Eq.. seconded th e resolution. The third re-01117ton was prop ose d b y Dr. T. —arNo:— " That a number of gentkmen named be appuit;tel e committee (thr ,, e forming a quorum), for tin , purpote ~f drawing up the rules of the society appointing ( ffiee bearers, calling general meetings, and arranging and managing the general business of the society, with the power of keeping up their numbers." Dr. Laihg said nothing could be so important at the present time as the subject of tmigration. There were, to his knowledge. 0 less than 3 000 heads of familes in Gla , gow, 2,000 in Paisley, and numbers in other parts of Scotland, who were :n ~,t,,,,,., a state of starvation He had made a t , •ur thrw:;:,) Ulster, now the most peaceful pr .vince in Ir2land: 1:,!;: there he found that one person had only allotted to i,i n , one-fourth of the land which was posse-s?d by anothr : in Scotland or England, owing to the cr0 w ,4„,1„,,,,, 0 , the country. The most fertile soil sod healthful climate were to be found in Australia ; and, as had been atated acres and acres of rich land vvtrit there waiting f,41 . 1-; rlough. And he was itire that if only one' britn , h caltivation were followed—that of cotton growin,a, s , great an improvement would take place in our ma , k , t. that we should bo soon able to un'lersell Etottit.l Jonathan and his niegers. The r , solution was seconded by ARTHUR MILLS, The fourth resolution, to the eff,ct that the annual payment of 1/. should entitle any one to be a member of the society, was proposed by Captain HAMILT,N, and seconded by JACKSON, Esq. All the resolutions were unanimously carried. After a vote of thanks had been passed to the Chair man the meeting separated. UNIVERSITY IN TELLIGENCE. PROPOSED NEW SYSTEM OF EDUCATION. CAMBRIDGE, APRIL 11. _ _ The Syndicate appointed to consider wheth( r it is expedient to afford greater encouragement to the pursuit of those studies for the cultivation of which professor. ships have been founded in the University, and if so, by what means that object may be best accomptishsd, have made and this day circulated the following report:— The Syndicate, admitting the superiority of the study of mathematics and classics over all others as the basis of general education, and acknowledging therefore the wisdom of adhering to our present system in its main features, are nevertheless of opinion that much g o would result from affording greater encouragement to the pursuit of various other branches of science and learning which are daily acquiring more importance and a higher estimation in the world, and for the teaching of which the University already possesses the necessary means. In accordance with this view the Syndicate recom mend as follows: A. viTcehacth, a a n t ce t l h lo e r b s e h g a i l lning of each academical places, an d times, of the several professors' lectures for issuea prograeofth the year th en to ensue. e y s e u s b r j, ects, e t the , s That all students, who, being candidates for the de gree of 13. A., or for the honorary degree of M.A. are not candidates for honours, shall, in addition to what is now required of them, have attended, before they be admitted to examination for their respective degrees, the lectures delivered during one term at least by one or more of the following professors:—Regius Professor o' . Laws, Regius Professor of Physic, Professor of Moral Philosophy, Professor of Chemistry, Professor of Ana tomy, Professor of Modern History, Professor of Botany, Woodwardtan Professor of Geology-, Ja:.ksonia n Pro fessor of Natural and Experimental Philosophy-, Down ing Professor of the Laws of Rt gland , Dovvni ng Professor of Afedicine, Professor of y, Professor of Political Economy ; an d s h all have obtai n ed a certificate of having passed an examination ~atisfactory to one of the professors whose lectures th e y have chosen to attf H. T. at all students who, bein oandidates for the digree (:)" B.C.L , du not pass :he examinations for the first class in that faculty, shall, in addition to what is now required of them, have attended, before they be allowud to keep their act, the lectures deliver, d during Ont. t rm at least, by oue or more of the followitig professors : Regius Professor of Physic, Pr , f,ssor of Nloral Philo sophy, Profe s sor of Chemistry, Professor of Anatomy, Professor of Modern History, Professor of Botany Woodwardian Professor of Geolpgy, Jacksonian Profes sor of Natural and Experimental Philosophy, Downinz, Professor of Medicine, Professor of Mineralogy, Profes sor of Political Economy; and shall have obtained a certificate of having passed an examination satisf,ctory to one of the professors whose lectures they have chosen to attend. That this regulation shall apply to all students answering the above descri pion who shall commence their acidemical residence in or after the Michaelmas term of the ye ar 1849. That a New Honour Tripos be established, to be called the Moral sciences Tripos, the places in which shall be determined by an examination in the following subjects:—Moral Philosophy, Political Economy, Mo dern History, General Jurisprudtmce, the Laws of England. That the examiners for the Moral Sciences Tripos be the Regius Professor of Laws, the Professor of Moral Philosophy, the Professor of Modern History, tho Downing Professor of the Laws of England, the Pro fessor of Political Economy, together with one additional examiner to be nominated by the Vice Chancellor and appointed by grace of the Senate ; and in e•tse any of the above mentioned pro essors be prevented from ex amining in any year, deputies to examine instead of them shall be nominated by the Vice-Chaucellor and appointed by grace of the Senate. That the examination for the Moral Sciences Tripos shall commence on the second Monday after the general admission ad respondendum qucestioni, and shall continue four days. That all students who shall have passed the examina tions and kept the exercises required for the degree of Bachelor of Civil Law, or of Bachelor of Physic, or who shall have passed the examinations entitling to admis sion ad respondendum qucestioni, may be candidates for honours in the Moral Sciences Tripos next succeeding such examinations. That the candidates for honours in the Moral Sciences Tripos whom the examiner shall deem worthy of an honour shall be arranged by them in three classes, the places being determined by estimating the aggregate merits of each candidate in all the subjects of the exa mination. And that in tlik se classes marks of distinction shall be affixed to the names of sach of the candidates as have shown eminent proficiency i❑ particular subjects. That the first examination f,r the Moral Sciences Tripos, under the regulations now proposed, shall take place in the year 1851. C. That a New Honour Tripos be established, to be called the Natural Sciences Tripos, the places in which shall lte determined by an examinbtion in the following subjects : Anatomy, Comparative Anatomy, Physiology, Chemistry, Botany, Geology. That the examiners for the Natural Sciences Tripo be the Region Pr , fessor of Pnys;c, the Prot , ssor of Che miatry, the Professor of Anatomy, the Profes or o' Botany, the Woodwardian Professor t.l Geology, together with one additional examiner to be nominaLeu by the Vice-Chancellor and appointed by grace of the S rate; and in case any of the above-mentioned professors he prevented from examining in any year, deputies to ex mine instead instead of them shal be nominated by the Vic Chancellor and appointed by grace of the Senate. That the examination for the Na!ural Sciences Tripos shall commence on the 6 , h Monday after the general ad mission ad respondendum guastioni, and sha:l continue four days. That - all students who shall have passed the examina tions and kept the exercises required for the degree of Bachelor of Civil Law or of Bachelor of Physic, or who shall have passed the examinations entitling to admission ad respondendum quastioni may be candidates for honours i❑ the Natural Sciences Tripos next succeeding such examinations. That the candidates for honours in the Natural Sci ences Trips whom the examiners shall deem worthy of an honour shall be arranged by them in thre e c l asses, the places being determin e d by estimating the aggregate merits of each candidate in all the subjects of the exa mination. And that in these classes marks of distinc tion shall be affixed to the names of such of the candi dates as have shown eminent proficiency in particular subjects. 'that the first examination for the Natural Sciences Tripos, under the regulations now proposed shall take place in the year 1851. That with a view D. to encourage attendance at the lectures of the mathematical professors, and to secure a correspondence between those lectures and the mathe matical examinations of the university; and also as a means of c ommunicating to the students themselves, from a body of experienced examiners and lecturers, correct views of the nature and objects of our mathema tical examinations: the Lucasian Professor of Mathe matics, the Plumian Professor of Astronomy, the ',own dean Professor of Geometry and Astronomy, and the Jacksonian Professor of Natural and Experimental Philosophy, together with the moderators and examiners for mathematical honours for the time being, as well as those of the two years immediately preceding, be constit tuted a Board of Mathematical Studies; whose duties i s shall be to consult together from time to time or t i c a 4 l . l matters relating to the actual state of mathematical i I pre studies and examinations in the University; pare annually, and lay before the Vice report, to be by him published to the University Lent or Easter term of each year. importance The Syndicate, having respect to the great.w o f giving an Chancellor, t h e a of the study of theology, increased efficiency to the regulati c o omm for the promotion of it, further re and w . a n h s t a h le e rne E. grad of vaiy_established That all persons who p tion at the theological examination, , be required to pro of the Senate, M a y 11 n , g attended - the lectures de renttitobrrn a e established l v e a for examine- b y g duce a certificate o so the o ft three theologic al Professor of Divinity, and the Nor hleeaßegius two pro f o e ! Margaret. l i de livered during professors,o i, e te t r m h v a iz Ta t t v i n ity, the regulation now proposed shall first come into That the heological examination in the Michael. operation at the t risian Professor of Divinity. mss term of the year 1850. (Signed) Roht. Phelps, Vice-Chancellor. li . enry G.T and. John Graham. W. 110, Nina, W. Whewell. J. J. Smith. 11. Philpott. C. M er i vale. Alfred (Militant. Henry S. Mai ne . J. Mills. W H . Thompson. . John Itivil a nd. Edward Warter. James Challi s . The Vice-Chancellor has given notice that separate graces for adopting the regulations proposed in the parts, A, 13, C, D, E, respe c tively) of the above report, THE SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY EVENLIS Gr, APRIL 14, 1848. PARLIAMENTARY DIVISIONS, (From the Votes and Proceedings of the House of Commons.) THURSDAY, APHIS 13. MINISTERS' MONEY (IRELAND). MotiOn made, and Question proposed, " That this House will, upon Tuesday next, resolve itself into a Committee, to take into consideration the Act 17 and 18 Chas. 2, c. 7, in tituled, An Act for provision of Ministers in cities and con. porate towns, and making the Church of St. Andrew's, in the suburbs of the city of Dublin, preservative for ever,' with the view to the repeal of so much thereof as relates to the provision of Ministers in cities and corporate towns, and to provide from the ecclesiastical revenues of Ireland a sub stitute in lieu thereof"—Amendment proposed, to leave out from the word " That" to the end of the Question, in order to add the words " a Select Committee be appointed, to consider and report upon the state an•i operation of the Laws respecting Ministers' Money in Ireland, and to report whether any and what amendments in those Laws would be expe dient," instead thereof .—Question put, " That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question." The House divided : MINORITY—AYES, 73. Adare, Viscount King, Peter John Reynold s , J ohn Agiionby, H. A. L ushington, Charles Sadleir, John Anstey, Thomas Macnamara, Major Salwey, Colonel Armstrong, Sir A. M'Gregor, John Scholefield, William Blake, M. J. Megan, W. 11. Scrope, G. P. Bright, John Meagher, Thomas Scully, Francis Brotherton, J. Martin, Samuel Smith, John B. Callaghan, D. Moffatt, George Sullivan, Michael Clay, James Monseli.:William Tenison, E. K. Cobden, R. Moore, George H. Tennent, R. J. Cowan, Charles Mowatt, Francis Thicknesse, R. A. Crawford, W. S. Manta, G. F. Thompson, Colon& Devereux, John T. Norreys,tir D. Thompson, George Fagan, James Nugent, ,ir Percy ThornelY, P. I. ortcscue, Chichester O'Brien, Timothy Trelawny, J. S. Gardner, Richard O'Connell, J. Walindley, .ii* J. Grace, O. 1). O'Connell, M. J. Westhead, J. P. Grattan, Henry O'Connor, Feargus Willcox, Brodie Greene, John Osborne, Ralph Williams, John Hastie, Alexander Peelle% Captain Wyld, James Henry, Alexander Pilkington, James Yorke, H. R. Ilindley, C. Pinney, William Howard, P. H. , ragan :r s z v tr ia as. Jackson, William Power, Poer Nicholas Dr' Keating, Robert Raphael, Alexander Hume, Joseph Kershaw, James Rawdon, Colonel Adair B. Shafto Adderley, C. B. Alexander, N. MAJORITY—NOES, 149. Du Pre, C. G. rl Edwards, Henry Farrer. James Forester, G. C. Forster, M. Fuller, A. E. Gladstone, Gaell . E . Noel,l 'NI 1N3 5 3' fr o ceeatu r iwsel ;I r ilitgjddder Y :rGag s j,j, vea, Joseph Forester, N. Gokldard, A. L. Gore, W. R. 0. G G r r a a l n ia b3 m , , bi Sl a r rci t is ef Greenall, Gilbert Greene, Thomas Grey, Sir G. Grogan, Edward Grosvenor, Lord R. Guest, Sir J. Gwyn, Ilowel Hally burton. Lord S SRRRSPIPPP4 elc e iiemgirmeeat i dlkr ih i eel4:EBrl: R FYnoDS,Slß'''r l aijßrijS l i ORG esocloisihhiordhm:lll:: Osma n etc _ • 1 u : rialsey. T . P. Shelburne, Eat , 7. Hamilton, G. A. Hardcastle, J. A, Heald, James Henley, J. W. ferries, J. C. Hildyard, It, C. Ilobhouse, Sir J. Hobhouse, T. B. Howard, C. W. Hudson, George Inglis, Sir R. H. Jones, Sir W. Keogh, William J. lle. Knightley, Sir C. Lewis, Lau George ier e C . Henry lv v VTTTBBBBS v r y at i °Ptett a v :aaawrio sl Smyt h ,annuf r p o a n : rlse o no n ' t:ttlyP lß tre , h e oeedr C . I ' , I I. R ichard ItS " Gl T. dr. e rol .j.lo o . c Gr-jn e h . .Wre.ni. • Captain r Lincoln, Earl of Lindsay, Colonel Littleton, E. IL L3Liyo, Lockhart, Ngwot,trihg,ehGrt,,e Manners, L nnC7 o .o rn C e 8.1 WTSVSSVVB°Poit o :ii Williamson, blulei r °:iint t aatedodh l emrrn in e tm V oS,vr P%aVralic3. Tre' .11l,.•Augustus r• aer. v Si les P Mettle, Fox Maunsell, T. It. Morgan, 0 hn Morpeth, Vis count Morris, David Mostyn, E. M. Young, Sir s D i f r a ai o uk Archdall, Captain Armstrong, It. B. Bagshaw, John Bailey, Joseph, jun. Baines, M. T. Buldock, E. H. Bankes, G. Barrington, Lord Bellew, It. M. • --- Bennet, Philip Bentinck, Lord H. Beresford, William Bernard, Viscount Black-3 11, S. W. Bolger°, H. G. Bourke, Richard S. Bremridge, Richard Broadley, Henry Brockman, E. D. Buller, Sir J. Y. Banbury, William Banbury, E. H. Burghley, Lord Cabbell, B. B. Campbell, W. F. Cardwell, Edward Carew, W. P. Carter, John B. Cavendish, C. C. Cavendish, (I}. H. Cayley, Edward S. Chichester, Lord J. Christopher, It. Christy, Samuel Clements, Charles Clerk Sir G. Cochrane, A. Colebrooke, Sir T. Coles, Henry B. Colvile, C. K. Courtenay, Lord Davies, D. A. S. Dawson, T. V. Dick, Quintin Disraeli, B. Duff George S. Duneaft, JOlui TELLERS. 11111, Lord M. Dundas, Admiral GRAND ENTERTAINMENT TO LORD FIARDINGE AT THE MANSION-HOUSE —Yesterday the L ,rd Mayor gave a grand dinner to Lord Hardinge after the presen tation of the freedom to the Noble Lord at the Court of Common Council. Amongst the company wa re the E irl of Auckland, the Bishop of Oxford, theßishop of Ma dras, Sir John Cam Hobhouse, Mx Castle reagh, M.P., Lord Adolphus ~ Viscount Fitzclarence, the Hon. Charles Hardinge, the Hon. A r th ur Hardinge, t h e Hon. Miss Hardinge, Lieutenant-G eneral Sir J ames Law Lushington, G.C.8., Sir Al exan d er Grant, S i r W a lt er' James, Sir Moses and Lady M ontefiore Lieutenant- Colonel and Mrs Lawrence, Li eutenant-Co l o nel Cuning hame, Maj pr. General Du ncan M‘ Leod, Li eutenan t Colonel Wood, Mr. Mastermen, M.P, Mr. W. H. Plowden. M.P., and Mrs. Plowden, Sir Felix Booth, Mr. Abel Smith and Mrs. Smith, Mr. Martin Tucker Smith, M.P., and Mrs. Smith ; M. H . S t. G eorge Tucker (l a t e chairman of the Hon. E as t I n di a C o mpany), Mrs. and Mrs. Strahan, Alderman Th om p s on, M.P., and Mrs. Thompson; Alderma n H um phery, M.P., and Mrs. Humphery; Sir C. S. Hunter, Ald e rman Farebroth er and Miss Farebroth er , Si r James Duke, M.P., Alder men Gibbs, Musgrove, Sidney, Moon, Salomons, and Finnis; the Common-Sorgeant, and Mrs. and the Misses Mirehouse; the Sheriffs and their ladies, the Chamber. lain and Mrs. Brown, Sergeant Merewether, Mr. and the purposein the York Mrs. Beadon, the M as t er and Wardens of the Merchant Tailors' Company, & c . WESTMINSTER REFORM ASSOCIATION.--A general meeting o o tei, tth u is pp so r ci l e v ty el w iin a g s lastt(hmelscltreet,for evening, of " considering what steps should be taken to obtain a revision of the taxation of this country, by more fully adopting the principle of direct instead of indirect im post." Mr. Austin was called to the chair. A resolu tion on the subject of a reduction of taxation having been moved by Mr. Prout, and seconded by Mr, Wilks, a protrocted discussion took place, and an amendment to the followin g e ff ec t was fi na lly carried, via.:—" That, considering th e p resent cons titution of the Hou se of Commons, the only h o p e o f a just reduction of tax at i on depended on a lar ge extens i on of the elective fran c hi se. " EAST INDIA HOUSE. —Yesterday a Court of Di rectors was held at th e E as t India. House, when th e new directors el e ct e d on W e d nes d a y last, viz , Henry Alex ander, Esq., the H on . Willi am Henry Leslie M e l v ill e, Major Jam es Oliph ant , J ohn Shepherd, Esq , Francis Warden, Esq., and Major-General James Caulfield, C. 8., took the eath and their seats. Leutenant-General Sir James Law Lushington ' G.C.8., was chosen ch a i r .. man, and M a j or -G enera l Archibald Galloway, C.B. deputy. chairman, for the year ensuing. In con sequence o f represen t a tions made by several societies connecte d w i th the em pl o yment of f emales in the va r i ous b ranches of dressma ki ng a n d m illi nery, as well as a n um b er o f E ng li s h ladies interest e d in the welfare of th e i r own countrywomen, in tim es lik e the present, almo s t a ll t h e pr i nc ipal milliners a n d dress makers a t t h e W est-end, who h ave hith erto employed many French at wor k , h ave ag reed, in compliance with the above wishes, for the future to employ none but English w(,rkwomen. A French surgeon has found that the bark of the Adansonia negituta is more efficacious in fevers th an sulphate of quinine. UPON PETITIONS It is 'lather evident to your Committee, that on numerous consecutive sheets the signatures are in one and the same handwriting. Your Committee have also observed the names of distinguished individuais attached to the petition, who cannot be supposed to have concurred in its prayer, and as little to have subscribed it. Amongst such others, the name of her Majesty in one place as Victoria Rex, April the First, the Duke of Wellington, K.G., Sir R. Peel, &c., &c. In addition to this species of abuse, your Committee have observed another, Equally in derogation of the just value of petition—namely, The insertion of names which are obviously altogether fictitious, such as " Nu Cheese," " Pug-nose," " Flat nose," &c. There are other words and phrases which, although written in the form of signatures, and included in the number reported, your Committee will not hazard offending the House, and the dignity and decency of their proceedings by reporting ; although it may be added, that they are obviously signatures belonging to no human being. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. Sm—Your paper of yesterday states good reasons for foubline-, the truth of th© number said to have signed ,he Chartist petition. But there are other reasons for doubting it. If the signatures are on skins or parchment as large us the tiroadside of your paper, and like it divided into seven columns, and the sigtia'urc-s are written so close togettier as three to an inch, each skin will contain 525 signatures, and consequently the petition must have 10,857 skins to contain 5,700,137 names. It mu.t be four miles and 499 yards in length, and the weight must be two or three tons. As I read of the petition having been carriel in a crab, I have some doubt, of this enormous magn.tude. Perhap s some of those who have suen it kre better abl to judge than A COUN FRYMAN. April 1 3, 1848. TO THE ELI tol? OF THE SUN. SIR,—As the affair of Monciay has passed over quietly, and the G'overarnent is rather strengthened thin other wise by the d, tu , io.tration, 1 would be,4 :o t. , ugge q t the propriety ut the Npevi ..I con i.:,blys na'2,lln: : - io a hod j , and expressing themselves in somethiti L , like Lilo follow ing terms . " We, the special constables of London, who have willingly aid promptly come to the a%sistane e of Govern ment for the maint. mince of peace and order, are anxious to impress upon the Government that in so doing we have no wish to express any hostility towards the lower classes; on the contrary, we would beg the Governm , nt to consider their claims favourably, and concede so much of them as mny be conceded with safety," I enclose my card, and shall be most happy to co operate with any gentleman feeling as I do upon the subject. I am, Sir, &c., A SPECIAL. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. Sits,—The inhabitants of this weiropulis having proved to the world on Monday last their loyalty to the 'forone, and abhorrence of all v.olent means to obtain a reform in the laws of this country, are now doubly bound to come forward, and i❑ legal and constitutional meet ings show to the Government that it must not stand still —that while the Government aro passing Coercion Bills for England and Ireland, it must at the same time intro duce such measures as the growing wants of the commu nity require, in order that, with God's blessing, such Cuerzion Bills may not have to be put in force. The middle classes are much in favour of a reduction in the expenditure, equaliz.ttion of the taxation, alterations in the currency system, extension of the franchise, vote by ballot, &c., and other things too numerous to mention; and therefore iS behoves a Government to put its shoul der to the wheel, to grapple with the monster nuisances, , and thoroughly cleanse the Augeau stable, so that the Mitchel O'Briens, and others, may cease to agitate and inflame the people, by having no real grievance s to talk about. This, therefore. is the time that the middle classes must be up and doing. I am, Sir, your most obedient servant, A COMMISSION MERCHANT'S CLERK. 4, Liverpool terrace, Liverpool-road, April 13, 1848. RAILWAY SHARE MARKETS. LIVERPOOL, APRIL 13. STOCK EXCHANGE. —The sales are—Aberdeen, 22—Great Northern, 10 dis.—Great Western, 171. 'hares, 1 1 /. / 2 dis.— Lancashire and Yorkshire, Fifths (late West Riding Union), dis.—Liverpool, Alanchester ' and Newcastl e J unct i on, 23' s dis —Lond un an d Nurth-Western, 125 c.—Ditto, New Quarters, 1% p.—Ditto, Fifths, 5 p.—Ditto, Quarters (A and B), p.—. itto (C), 2l p.— Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire, Quarter', No. 2, 15--Ditto, Preference, 1 ,4 i dis. idlaud, 95 Ditto, Halves, dis.—Ditto, Consoli dated Birmingham and Derby, 75—Newcastle and Carlisle, 100—North StaflOrdshire, 3 1 / 8 dis.—Shrewsbury, o.,westry, and Chester, Preference. 2 p. South-Eastern and Dover, 22 —Ditto, No. 3, 11 dis.—Ditto, No. 4, Thirds, 735. 9d. dis.— York, Newcastle, and Berwick, Extensions (N. and B.), No. 2, dis.—Ditto, G. N. E. Purchase, 1 4 dis. MANCH E S lEli, APRIL 13. STOCK EXCIIA NG K.. —The sales are—Birkenhead, Lanca shire, and Cheshire Junction, 6 7 k dis. - East Lancashire, New, 8 dis.—Lancashire and Yorkshire( \Vest lti iir.g Union), c. dis. --Dittc, Pres:on 4,a1 lialvLs (A), 2 7-16 p. Leeds and Thir k, Prefer r,tia . 2 is.— Lariion and No. 03- Western (Manchester and Birmi..ghain), Quarters (A and B), BEL O irtisitetiet p s , rh i n — ii,saTi D inih i rd t ei t rp o d i osu: d v i re2 t ir t 7 o dNsi ( sbo C .,—.4) h :N 2 3ol l, 2 lc.h p . : l r .).6stdai l ss.i a ,.h i r i ad c lrs t e i h e ost s :r t ke e 4, r l / 4 S tudeis ffi ......eicoarttihd an 3 d d N ia o .— rth Stt land, 62. BIRMINGHAM, APRIL 13. STOCK EXCHANGE. —The sales are—Loudon and North- Wrgern, 126 itto, New Quarters, p. —Ambergate, Sottingh.4in, and Boston, 56s sd. dt3. Biiminghatn, ol verhamp. on, and Stoui. Valley, 3 1 4 dis.—N-rth Staffordshire, 611. 3d. dis.—Strrewsbury and Birmingham (B), 3j 4 dis. LEEDs, APRIL 2. STOCK EXCHANGE. —Rather more business has been done to-day than yesterday, at the following prices; —East Lan cashire, New, 8 dis.— itto, Quarters, 40s. die.—Great North ern, 97,6 dis. — Luncashire and Yorkshire ( West Riling Union ), 745. dis —Leeds and Thirsk, 22% dis.—Ditto, New, 20 5 p dis. —North British, Thirds, ')9s. 6d. dis.—North Staffordshire, 3 1 / 8 dis.—York, Newcastle, and Berwick, No. 2 (New Bet , ' wicks), 10s. dis. Ditto, Preference, 10s. dis. HULL, APRIL 13. STOCK EXCHANGE —The sales are—Ambergate, Notting ham, and Boston, s—North British, Extension (scrip), 3s. —Ditto, Thirds, 233. YORK, APRIL 12. STOCK EXCIIINGE.—The following were the quotations to - day—Great Northern, 3 Ipswich and Bury St. Ed munds, 3 3 4—North British, Thirds, 235.—York, Newcastle, and Berwick (Original), 27 i i i—Ditto, No. 2 (late New Ber vricka), 9:l4—Ditto (G. N. E. Purchase), 7:A. EDINB URG 11, Arnm_l2. STOCK EXCILLNGE.—The sales are—Edinburgh, Leith, and Grantor), 91. 10s.—Edinburgh and Northern (Newport), 51. 2s. 6d.— Great Northern, 3—North British, Quarters, 733. 6d.—Ditto, Thirds, Vs. GLASGOW, ArsuL 12. STOCK EXCHANGE. — The sales are—Caledonian, New, ss. —Duvdee and Perth, 261,4 —Glasgow, Kilmarnock, and Ayr, 691.—Ditto, Halves, No. 1, 35, —Glasgow and Greenock, Preference, s—North British, Thirds, 225. 6d. in the Sunday school late Miss Sarah Johnson Garrad, of SMALL ACCEFT.4.nLsE, BEQUESTS. - T 0 is childleft will of the . Prayer-book, or some other religious a pit i c b b le a'sed by the vicar, the Rev. Arthur en to the chil tren at his discretion parish, given in the be laid out of the Sunday school ; the testatrix has :also book,ilbhyaanttbhleat 101.rro y-i to for the children also directed the executors to pay over to the vicar 251., which, under his superintendence, is to be given in sums of 5/. to the treasurers of the undermentioned societies : The Bures National School, the Butes Pal ochial Lend ing Library, the Bures Friendly Society, the Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge, and the Church Mis sionary Society, Yes.terilay their Royal Ilighntsses the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, with Princess Mary, accompanied by the Barone ss B„se, the Hen. Miss Mitford, and Cap• tam 111ildnaay, honoured the New Society of Painters in Water Colours by viewieg the fourteenth annual exhibi tion of their pictures, at their Gallery, 53, Pall-mall, previously to its being opened to the public. They ex pressed themselves much gratified at the great progress the Society has made since the last year, as well in the increased number and excellence of their works. TUE PRINCE OF PRUSSIA.—His Royal Llighpes the Prince of Prussia was entertained at dinne n r on Wed ' ncsday evening by his Excellency the Prussiab ß in o is b t e e r r t , at his mansion on Carlton-house Terrace. Sir ~ In bled Sir James Graham. and a 'elect circle were e z niu, bled to meet his Ito% al Higime's. Y'''tera", r grand en his Excellency the Prii....ia:. Minister gave ,a . a . u e in tertainuent to a circle of tin! corps chpio t in . ca, lio::our of his Royal Highness the Prince of Pr ussia.the Chere were assembled to meet his Reyel Highn es s Austrian Ambassador, the Belgian Mmistevi,,Tutrhieeißnns:ra fion Minister, the Swedish Minister, the . g . \Heist, r, the Hanoverian Minis . etr, and the Cbarge d'Affaires. To morrow evening his Excellency will bay. another grand banquet. r4ll he nfr2rei to c2r77 fhn :Nfiehtelrnas Term of the pre,•e,...a THE CIIA ttTIsT PEE i LION. ItEPUR Eit) M E SELECT (M N 1 EE The Committee upon Petitions, in conformity with the instructions of the House on the 26th of No vvmher last, in all cases to set forth the number of sig natures to each petition; and also hating regard to the po . Aer at the c ame ti me d e l ogatc d to t h em, to report t h e i r olanion and ol,strvazion:; thi reupon to the Home, have 4greed to the lb ltrA it. • SPi CIAL REPORT, That On TO (3.,).tpit instapt. R pet,:t'n !cr [mirk-Nal snff e ; of tlie inliatiit::.ifis of the Brito.h [,l , s an i bub j,e of the Biiti , h Has presented to he floinita. r.tir C. ,, n - ani•tee str, ugh r . c. Ihe v_ 1! : o the right of pPloion: consider Vie i•xerci,e of i! one of the tri•sr im portuw; privileges of the subj; ets 01 the realm, and feel the rie:es,ii:y of preserving :he -xerci,eeft crich priviteges from it bu;(-; end ii,ving a due regsrd the un port.qt,e, of a very trutnerfit-l . signed forming , he vubiect :he present report, th e y it d hound re present t o the nous,— "Inat in the matter of signatures there has been in their opinion a very gross abuse of that privilege. The Honourable Member for Nottingham stated, on presenting the petition in question to the House, that 5,706,000 signatures were attached to it. Upon a most careful examination of the number of iignatures in the Committee-room, in which examination thirteen law-stationers' clerks were engaged for upwards of seventeen hours, with the person ordinarily employed in counting the signatures appended to petitions, under the superintendence of the clerk of your Committee, The number of signatures has been ascertained to be 1,975,496.