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FRANCE. The necessary repairs and improvements in the Legislative Chamber are nearly terminated. A great change in the personnel of the comsulates, an increase in the number of pests, and the re-esta blishment of the salaries on the footing previous to 1848, have been announced. The total of the ex penses thus occasioned is 250,000 f. The Independanee of Brussels. states that the following appointments have been already made :-- "M. de Lantivy is to be consul at Dublin, and M. Iluet at' Lisbon; M. Cavel, formerly secretary to M. de Per signy, has been nominated to Civita-Vecehia with 10,000 f; M. Maricourt is to go to Stettin with 8,000 f.; M. Gil bert des Voieons is to remain definitively at Ode44a,chis salary 15 15,000 f.; M. Bruant, who was only consulcir agent at Ostend, has been named consul; an ex-agent, who has been consul at Dantzlc, is to go to Mentz, with 12,000 f.; M. Barbet do Joey is to leave Stettin for Tani pion; this consulate was suppressed in 1848, but the im portance of French commerce in Mexico requires its re establishment; the salary will probably be fixed at 25,000 f. M. Guillonet is to go to Port Maurice; M. Galloni d'lstria, formerly at Venice, to Opole(); M. Gardera to Galatz, a post re-established; a con• sulate has been created at Diedda, and it has been confided to M. nocbet d'lleficourt, the learned tra vel r in Egypt and Abyssinia; the consulate of Cobija, in tha Pacific Ocean, founded by M. Guizot. has been re-established, acd M. Darasse is appointed to it; M. Challaye has been named consul at Erzeroutn, in Armenia; M. Gcepp is to go to Newcastle, with 20,0001. and M. Hitler, heretofore of Dublin, to Liver pool, with the same salary; M. Gaillard, who has been at Uverpool, is to become consul-general at Ilsvunnah with 35,0001 salary; M. Limperani is to go to Carmine with 10,0001.; M. Vallat, an item-consul, at St. Peters burgh, and M. Maubuissin to Riga, salary 10,0001.; M. Montigny, formerly chancellor of the embassy at Naples, to Belgrade, with 12,000 E; M. Flury is to give up the consulate of Cadiz to M. de Gricourt, of Santander; and is to go to Naples, a consulate of new creation; M. Pianelli is to go to Pernambuco, salary 15,000 E; M. Cazstte to Valparaiso, salary 15,000 f.; M. Giraudot to Guayaquil, a new post; M. Blanchard to Rio Janeiro; M. Livio to Bremen, a re-established post; M. Saint Amand to Bagdad; M. Lombard to Panama, salary 18,000 f.; and, finally, M. Pierre Bonaparte is to become consul at Charlestown, in the United States, in the room of M. de Choiseul, and his salary is to be 15,000 f." LAW INTELLIGENCE. HOUSE OF LORDS, March 22. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) THE TRUSTEES OF DUNDEE HARBOUR V. DOUGALL, The LORD CHANCELLOR delivered judgment at some length, dismissing the appeal, but altering the terms of the interlocutories of the Court below, so as not to confirm any right on the part of the respondents to levy COURT OF CHANCERY, March 22. (Before the LORDS JUSTICES.) SENT v. JACESOI.I. In this case (the arguments in which had not con chided when our report left), The Lord Justice KNIGHT BRUCE said—Whether upon the crastion of right or the question of remedy, the law of Belgium or the law or England is regarded, this suit seems to us to bell) founded. According to the law of Belgium the plaintiff is incompetent to sue fur the purpose for which he has filed this bill, and by the law of England he has shown no case for suing the directors in the manner ho has done even if some suit be proper. The pleadings and evidence seem to us to show that in the year 1847, more than a }Ear before the plain• tiff filed his bill, en-account had beet stated fuel settled between the committee of mauagement in Belgium, who were the authorised agents of the company, and Jackson and Graham, which account, if fairly stated, must be considered destructive of the plaintiff's case. It appears to us to have been fairly stated and settled, that is, every fact was stated without suppression, and the account so come to and stated was approved by the general meeting, who were, in our opinion, competent to do so. If, pos sibly, on account of the existing trusteeship, if there was one, the confirmation by the committee might have been insufficient, there mie:t still be taken to have been a sufficient affirmance by the general meeting. There is, probably, more than one other ground fatal to this case, but enough has been said to show that this petition of appeal mu s t be dismi6se3 with costs. ASSIZE INTELLIGENCE. WESTERN CIRCUIT.—Exeter, March 20. CROWN COURT.—(Before Mr. Justice TALrouan.) William Farrien was indicted LI. having forged as in dorsement tip a promissory note with intent to defraud the National Provincial Bank at Southmolton on the '2Bth•' March last. Mr. Phinn was counsel for the prosecution; Mr. Cox defended the prisoner. The facts of thb case were very simple, but rather a nice question of law was raised upon them. It appeared that the prisoner was a member of a society holden at Soutbmoiton, called the "Rechabites." They are tee totallers, and are also a benevolent society, Some time in the yea: 1317 the society deposited a BUM of 121. in the National Provincial Bank of England at Southmol ton, in the names of Charles Loek and Gorge Milton, and received in return a document in the fAlowing form:— - "National Provincial Bank of England. 1 : 4 1: " &uthmllton, Dec. 16, 1347. .4 anticived from Messrs. Charles Lock and George Milton 121., to be accounted for on demand. "t.ir tho Nationul Provincili Bulk of Englawl. • :" rattered." " W. H. TAPP." This, was dopositcli in the box of the society; and at a meeti4N; in Ft-bruary, 1831, the document was handed about,. and supposcit to be pat buck again into the box. Tite prisoner was present at that meeting. Oa the 2iltia of March, 1931, the prisoner went to toe National Pro vincial Dank, and presented the dof.mment and demanded the money. At that time it here the indorsement of Charles- Lock, who had endorsed the note , rane time before, as Ito was going away to America. The bankers refused to pav thecanaatutiths.uktlite.entloreement of Mil ton. said?litenprisoncr. " am Milton," and wrote the name et Naar ;e Milton on the note. He then got-tbe motley, aria, .b; mr: a.tilor, went away to sea. He subsecpsentir3teturned, and was. apprehended and committed for trial:- Mittou had rnt.gi ve a any aut h ol ity to him to sign his name, Tier weS it - known for anin'i - 3:time after the men?) , Was &Stabled that the note was not safe in the box of the vOciety. For th defence, it was con tended thas the document in . ciA4a was not a promis sory note, or, if it were, th.ir, rt,gaired a stamp. To this it was argued that, though not in terms, yet in etf.:,ct it Ward a protateacry mop, and that, as a,..ffainst the Crown, the objefetioh , L4 to its having no stamp Mr. Justice TALFSgRIS said that the inclination of his mind was that in form the document did amount' to a promissory note, but that he h,.d considerable doubt whether it was admitsable without a stamp. However, the better course -- wenidlee t•S let the ease go to the jury, and then he weeny , •if necryss-lry, reserve the point for the consideration of the Court fair Crown cases re served. Mr. Cox then addressed the jury fir the prisoner, and Mr. Justice TALF%JUED haring summed up, the jury found the prusener -Gui ty. r. Justice TALFOUILD then said he should respite of the the U jdtuent, and reserve the point I 4 the comideration , urt Prisonpr was then indicted for a larceny of the same dtmurnen t to whichhe pleaded and was sen tenced to si: he itepriEotitn,:j. POL ICE_IN`CELLIGEN CE. T y iguini Sty i, s fri a ft Y L E B ONE. , .the 0 e. . oceiviinos been piaed . a ileznau, who has upon several ha tthe bar before Mr. Broughton on tile charge w if e , was again brouting murdered Emma Styles, his up from the House of Deten tion, Clerkenwell. . . The particulars of wh at ci? ,,, ,e , ionoy transpired have appeared at some length in coroner's ' ""PaPer' and it will be re membered that a ,nr., J v which sat upen the body came to - a canclusion that tuOl cceate .. d was murde red by Mr. Wilding, managing c d ie/k to itlr. . Cooper, .soll . nitog, gtteilijeJ, as he had one upo n former occasions, for the,prisouer. teT- - g o • At the. late, period of a guar_ L p h ., „ al,. the . -. prisoner was brought into the court by I W;` 01 the gaoler; he senmed - perfectly cool and collected, a n d a 3 40 Passed through the crowd from th e outer office he ree ez i fised . and spoke to many of his friends. AIL BROUGHTON (to lilireeff)r rigrlt'r)—Arl the clothes from wilier' pi e ces Laving spots u p on the re were cut out here? Inspector—Th ~73' are not, Sir. I under. stood - tiii3fase 011ie the prisoner was here that there wchld be ne necessity for my,briaging them. r: Been i , = - G--° ,, (to the prisoner)—Do you now Wis h M vi;r to say anything? Friaoner,-I have nothing to sgy, Sir. Itir. Wilding here said that if we m agistrate had mad e , i , RP na,nyna to commit,, he, ,h o pid , th a t no Further re mand wOuld,ta4O.-.." P- I 'e, - t,w.h . prisouer.lsaving been already brought up so many times. -. Mr. BROUGHTON, addressing the prisoner, gave him to nadeestand that, although tearer was strong presumption et his guilt, he should not new tend, him before a jury, and, without Makin° , any further remarks, he Would for ..-,. the present:be discharged. The inventor was directed to keep .the clothes from which 146 ed marks had been eat gut, an 4 he ,was also told to request Dr. Hassell .to keep by hiul,tlie pieces which he his in his powssi n. w_4l . J._ it, Tjpofi • }lee Application of mi. 4.iog,..ptleis wire itirOli bilir. Bioti4lton. that. 1110 arliOnell abOtlfd, be 11904 Ty priiientetrby the, pvliee . from any violence wnilat ID king his' f r om ,l. 0 egress ....e court. . • , , .._ _ __________- _______.—._ ; Cht - oi - 140!47301‘ fIosrITAL =-The anniversa ry feativat'of this excell e nt ch a rity w.is held 'Oa 31011011 . f at i the uria dti I'aveit, the liar! ET anvils in thachair, who made a forcible and 'etoquenp appeal on ,behalf of the inltitution, whitt i ftetrieet . trand sme ry fespomied to :1)X the company prageilt The denatiou4 COlfect,;d iu the roft azilounit:4l to thiltte illut R teplet .; • i l i4 vtiLg 1, ,;00 . / . f r o ] mi; rgiker, Air: S. I°'', iAttl i tqq . otl,l'Ar c,r.l.epien. . Eir• Et Gurney alo 0 4 - '.'• . ?MP, .kt am', &Aria ccif;ll . o - ialieji of t ) ie FN. of 1 - I ;t o '° - i w - 0, nicip4 toastß Wli 'II, follpa(ea !were,- "i elth l-r it il ' ' sts t 4 A I . vfpAeti )) .1 , ?.4 r.".. 'Sewell, Ilii, i 6 , - pi apjAiEtt" ... a' ‘‘ 4 .- Irlntl i q- atitl the. lisalth oLthe chairlifia; 4 „ll l3 41: .:14:`,iNn, jvhkh was., r g ese4vpd'"with griar i APPlatis lt '.F ri , 11''''1;1).(4*.,t., stat;(l,#kat t .the minter or, out patierelieve , during - t'kq Xeur Jliii bas 031, AO lately he rake daily attendanee v‘ l 6 - li•ein 150 to lik The talleictleet% t • i the same perlbd' were 3 55/ Th ti -ital of r receipt at - , , , . e °opt a , 3i. \whi c h . :thp. fotindation - stone wen laid by Prince Albert, %-• 4 1 1 N1,% wonld be ready in the spring of 1851 ...t f 1.), pa.iii thirlilgt w t o h la p e r os esen t l t s , ooo yea i r ,.- D s o r l r b . y * I. = \An d 'it lesto 5,000 r. 111USt ' 2 : • '• %. the musical part of the entertaintirent was under the direc c, 6 1 : 4An of Mr. Jolley, assisted ' . ..i . 4 l "'''' ) IY/librvices gratuitously), U 159 w ght7 .-- .....,-- t ? ~:4., - ' Phillip& byHenderso n , i is Locket',wil°g a x, her • "ter == , TOO ‘-tui..—The .Cork Examiner gl!'ye that Sir Ralph • ,- ,5 , ':. - -; `• .- )'-'';'- Z'lloward, the present Member for Wicklow, 'milk b e e g- rt csndiato fvt , yougheet lbertstirtiltittlith ~ .i, THE SUN, OUR NATIONAL DEFENCES. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. Sea, —The remarks you have lately so judiciously ma de on a Memorandum published by Ridgway, on the necessity of a Minister of War for our de ensive as well as offensive operations, have drawn my par ticular attention to the subject ; and I find, on read ing over some of ,the old reports of Military Com missioners, that as far back as 1837 it was reported— That if the military defence of the empire i 3 to be condacted'upon a footing of economy and efficienc y , it is necessary that it should be managed upon one general and comprehensive system, having reference to the exigencies of the service both at home and abroad. The whole amount of for ce which is re quired to be kept up is determined, not merely by the quota necessary for the defence of each colony, and by the demands for home service, but is also affected by the description of force assigned to the several stations, and the nature an d situation of the barracks provided, the arrangements respect ing reliefs, and those of the commissariat and medical departments, on which the efficiency of the troops so greatly depends. Such being the case, it appears obviously expedient that there should be some one member of the Government particularly charged with the duty of exercising a general super intendence and control in all these matters, and to whom it should more immediately belong to take the pleasure of the Crown upon annual establishments, and to be responsible to Parliament for the advice so given by him." And yet, Sir, so little attention has been paid to this important matter, that in 1852 we find ourselves without defence, and the people called upon to turn out as militia men. In 1850, that is ten years after the necessity of reform in our naval and military administration, we find Earl Grey quietly stating in his evidence— " I certainly think the present system a very im perfect one ; but I am not prepared to say that I think it is one of the defects which are most pressing for correction. There have always been subjects, I think, of still more pressing im portance before the public hitherto." Of course there have my Lord Grey—it is necessary to say that to excuse the great culpability of the neglect paid to this recommendation of ten years' standing "It is a subject," adds his Lordship, " that cannot be dealt with without an Act of Parliament ; it would lead to very lengthy discussions ; and, looking at the general state of things in this country, I do not think that it has hitherto been a subject so pressing as other inte resting, though subordinate subjects, with which we have been dealing." Indeed, my Lord; then it is high time that it should be considered of more importance. And now you are out of office, perhaps you can find time to draw up this Act of Parliament, for it is no joke for the country to pay 16,000,0001. and upwards, and then be without internal or external defence. I hope, Mr. Editor, you will strongly protest against this Militia Bill, and warn Earl Derby in time, for I know, from information I have, that the men of the north will not turn out fur a militia. We all agree with you in a desire to give the present men a fair trial, but we want no militia. I am, Sir, &c., Bolton, ,March 12. JOHN WILSON. PRIEST-WORSHIP versus THE WORSHIP OF GOD. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. SIR,—On the eve of a general election, I trust you will think it opportune to gibbet, in your admirable and most extensively read columns, ;the subjoined morceau of correspondence, : extrtacted from the columns of the Pussyite Oxford Herald, of the 13th current. If Pu seyism could t, prevail, the Test and Corporation Acts would be repealed, public penance revived, and all the enormities of Roman Catholic discipline and intolerance go forward, till civil war relieved us, or the Inquisition rivetted onr chains'. No less results are involved in any, however ,temporary, success of the bastard Roman Ca tholicism, which triumphs in " Church discipline," and all the devilish et cceteras of Tractarian treason. "RESTORATION OF CHURCH DISCIPLINE. LONDON, IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT'. HOUSE OF LORDS, March 22. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Wool sack at Five o'clock. PETITIONS. The Earl of CARLISLE presented a petition - niftiest the calling out of the militia, from Leeds, a prayer in which his Lordship added that he was not ready to concur. _ _ The,Earl -- of CANDOR, presented a petition from the county- of Carmarthen against the Maynooth grant. The Esrl of ALBEMARLE presented a petition from the Chamber of Commerce at Manchester against any retrogression in the commercial policy of this country. Lord MONTEAGLE presented several petitions praying for the repeal of the Ecclesiastical Titles Act. Lord BROUGHAW - proseiTte - d- petitions from Halifax and Bradford praying for an amendment in the patent laws. TO THE EDITOR OF THE OXFORD HERALD. " Sir,—A circumstance occurred during Morning Service at LittlEmore Church last Sunday, calculated to gladden the hearts of all who are interested in the restoration of Church discipline. This was the public restoration of ono of the purishioners who had been suspended from Holy Communion during the period of more than a year and a half, and who, having given every sign of true penitence, was thus formally re admitted to that blessed privilege. " His offence had been of a nature to cause much scandal in the neighbourhood, and it was con sidered that unless his repentance was also open and mulles% the requirements of the Church, as expressed in the Rubric , before the offic,e for Holy Communion, could not be satistied.,; ; Tiae Lord Bishop of the diocese, tolwhom the of the suspension had been previously given, concurring in this opinion, a shortform of re-admission was drawn up by the Incumbent of the parish.' the Rev.:G. W. Hantingford, and read by him instead of a sermon: The sources from whence it was taken were a form sanctioned by CoLvocation in 1714, the second part of the Homily on the Right Use of the Church:and Bishop Wilson's Fprrn of 'Admitting Pe nitciAtß.' " The Penitent knelt at the entrance to the Church, and his replies to the questions put to him, which were from Bishop Wilson, were distinctly heard by the whole con gi..4zation. Then, having received a solemn blessing from the ollir.tiating priest, the whole was concluded by a short rx'nortation to all present, and the latter part of the Cammination Servicc , : was read, beginning with the 51st said kneeling . . The ceremony wes very impressive, and will, it is luptd, have a lasting etroct upon those who witnessed it. ' " Your obedient servant, " V" _ _ _ After this small sample of Puseyite doings, and their inevitable tendencies, will the Protestants of Carlisle ever elect the Puseyite Sir James Graham ; or Protes tants anywhere support in any gainer a Tractariau cauilidate, ?—I am, Sir, ycur °Lenient servant, NO ISCARIOT. Temple March 20, 1852. THE La:NID OF LIBERTY. one day last week At the Thames police-offiee William Houston complained to the magistrate that he, a free-born British subject, had been sold into slavery by o sea captain, with whom he had engaged as a steward for wages. He exhibited his register ticket as a " seaman," No. 548818 and stated that he was born in Gibraltar in the year 1810, his father a native of San Domingo, and his mother a London woman. About thirteen years ago, when settled, in Liverpool, he shipped in the Broad Oak, at Liverpool; as steward, for twenty-five dollars per month. The captain's name was Jmephl.4l`Coy. On the arrival of the ship at New Orleans the vessel was sold, and the captain took him on shore and sold him to an Ame rican, by whom he was taksn to a place called Tn.. cup, in St. Matthew county, where he remained in bondage for five years, when he found means to com municate with a lawyer. His owner, having learned that mhisures were about to he adopted for his Jibe= ration, put him in iron's, and seat him back to New Orleans, when his owner's cousin, a surgeon, Charles Le Blond, toad charge of him, and sold him for a good price to one Henry Boardman is an American, who kept a kind of public-house in Now Orleana, but' did not keep him long in cOnsecinenee of his threatening to appciALto the British consul. He was next bartered to Henry Lynch, tan Irishman, who let him out on hire to a Captain Willis, by whorcrhe Was engaged to serve as a drummer in ,the American army, under General Taylor. He remained with the army for two years, was engaged in the war with the. Maxi.. cans, and, received a sabre wound on the head at the, battle of Monterey, and was wounded in the right leg by a shot in the engagement of &lona Vista. He was laid up in the hospital,at Tampico for seven months; and on his return foNeWOrleeps cured of his wounds, the'inarka of Which were stavisible ' was sold to John .4 Ilistne, boarding-house keeper, who would not de tain him as his slave, on discovering that he - was free born 'and a B,(itish subject, but put hirdin gapY; and sued Lynch,' the rishman, fOr the ,purchase money. after remaini n g in prison for twelve months 3 the meriff of the place took him out and conveyed him to aaaaab s ., • r e ison , , where be remained - two months, and thea. n Charle s soli, atuoa ranee with thelaws . Of the sts i te,-he was ti p anuther Irishman named girdner;Of St.. *- 1 • eel, New Oileati;and : the purchse-nioney WSS , oppo - • ds the expenses of his ,main;! tdnance ba ll i tal ao ted i. .I: lwar British sullect;‘, e again claimed his privilegOait a named j Ati r i cr i: L. l4, , , grardlier ~ sold 'hini to aladvyet VI wjaom ha filoZ ti ' 4 ‘ Nco;sto9k . $4 gcreans, Scotth subject.. Upward. did,' 4llll ......„ilittsd hi that i be waa.a. British m, ring, and disposed. of him to Air. 13t0.m.,7,.,t , • "ihlgr - Barli - man, 'of Mitchel: - He was only vg - I- ...!--.. Barber , ' w hen he was again iiitn, that be was - sold to a gr. riaPre*. t ali n d..lj4, l *--c o i to free-born Man from g ark., and fts w . h : h out of town. •.:Idr. L lin ' en he, waia going ~ c _ apiere ,replied, at 5 o'clock in the evelPg , ",'"u Jie retniegba his name ~ j e - t - :—, * ei o thes from John Howard. bin liWiereg BV r ulni . ""111*( i'and address . a '• . 'h which 'he nunieaiiitelV' ' ' and address , and an order to, t 6. and t h e 0r.er,..Vt.. , British' Cons& ''Uil'Al"ted off to Xt. „ Ata3'bPkriAbe . ~...,_.-_, . • Mayhew ,snestiened him.,upon•lais,ativeni'"! -so d the,case _into. the hands- of a lawyer, who Enna- nimbefore a he 13ritiih consul said h' udge, gni , be made oath that he was a British' sub jedt. Aitir that was done t , ° 2 O . 11 $41) , i .4iti in gaol pi the business was. ein ' j'aewi3l 'who-ke pt - him in gaol for one year and 'three get led, and lie,As . as consigner ) to the hands of Sheriff )nPriflha net'l a s s . .eilok sed whitewasher Feariyg 1 " 1 - 7111 :" "i1z.,.1 Pad .forg•ottin.;,liiin, he yyrd,to tp, hiip rst i agelia - and in esa ' thua • h&f an hour after 16 de livery the consig. came to bhp and nske.l him if he Wa - i ready to gOlipine to Europe that night ; to which he i ii4d,irt-the affirmative. He was immediately put On. board the .e,hip Ann Doh e rty, b oun d to Liverpool, " where he arrived on the , lst of January last. He left Liverpool towards the end' of last week, and walked up to London, where he arrived - on Tuesday night, in the hopes' of obtaining redress. The magistrate, having elicited from the complainant that thecaptain wbolad thus. wronged. him was not in his jurisdic tion, and that complainant had no He; *here h.) was, e)uld give him no redress, i ASSEMBLING OF PARLIAMENT. Lord BROUGHAM laid on the table a Bill for shortening the duration of the space of fifty days, which now according to statute must elapse between a general election and the assembling of a new Parlia ment. This space was derived from the construction of the 22d article of the treaty of union with Scotland. By that treaty the term of twenty-five days had also been fixed to elapse between the election of Scotch representative Peers and their return, but as in consequence of the increased facility of communication had been shortened to ten days he saw no reason why the space of 50 days in a case which was of far more im portance, and owing to its origin to the same source, should not be shortened in a cimiler manner. Many instances would occur in which it would be of great im pertance that the space between a dissolution and the re assembling of Parliament should be as short as possible. He could not mention the subject of a dissolution without expressing how much he deplored the necessity of some stringent measure being adopted to put an end to the present system of bribery and corruption at elections. Every vcter who took a bribe incurred, in his opinion, the moral guilt of perjury; because, whether the oath were in fact applied or not, in 99 cases out of 100, every man who took a bribe took it with the firm intention of forswearing himself, if ne cessary. He thought they never would put a com plete end to this awful practice. The better way would be to exact from each Member, on taking his seat, a full, clear, and stringent declaration, such as he himself had unsuccessfully proposed before the last dissolution. The Earl of DERBY said that he saw no objection to the Bill introduced by the Noble and Learned Lord being read a first time. No doubt there did occur many in stances when it would be desirable to shorten the space between the dissolution of one Parliament and the re assembling of a new one. With regard to the subject of bribery, he quite agreed with the Nobl© Lord that something was required, and whatever was done ought, he thought, to be done before a general election rather than after it. The late Government had prepared a measure on the subject, which had been adopted by the present Government, and was now under the considera tion of the other House, and ho was glad to have the concurrence of his Noble and Learned Friend opposite that this at least was one of the measures which ought to be passed before a dissolution. The Marquis of BREADALBANE concurred with the Noble and Learned Lord, that something should be done to put a stop to the present prevalence of bribery. He thought that the corrupters were much more to blame than the corrupted. The Bill was read a first time. MAYNUOTH GRANT. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY presented petitions from Banbury, Kenilworth, parish of St. Sepulchre, Cambridge, Rothbury, and Montrose, against the May nooth grant. ECCLESIASTICAL QUARRELS AT COLOMBO. Lord CREMORNE gave notice of his intention to put a question to the Noble Lord the Under-Secretary for Colonial Affairs whether he had received any papers relating to certain quarrels between the Bishop of Colomco and his clergy, and whether there was any' intention of taking steps to bring those differences under the notice of the ecclesiastical authorities in this country, Earl DESART said that the papers alluded to had not been received, but that Government could have no wish, to postpone their answer to the question of the Noble Lord. If the Noble Lord would confer with him (Lord Dysart) to-morrow, he would inform him how far the information he wished could be afforded to him. Their Lordships then adjourned. HOUSE OF CaIMONS, March 22. The SPEAKER took the Chair a few minutes to Four o'clock. The Birkenhead Dock Trustees Bill was read a second time. PETITIONS. - Mr. FERGUS presented several petitions from Scotland against the Sale of Beer (Scotland) Bill. Sir H. INGLIS presented a petition from St. Bartho lomew's Hospital against being included in the Charitable Trusts Bill; also, a petition from a place in Norfolk against the grant to Maynooth. Mr. ROEBUCK presented a petition from the Corpo ration of Sheffield in favour of financial boards. Mr. SIDNEY presented a petition from parochial officers in London, praying for the amendment of the law of settlement. Mr. lIUME presented a petition from a place in Scot land against the University tests. Lord R. GROSVENOR presented a petition from a place in Middlesex against the Enfranchisement of Copy holds Bill. Sir DE LACY EVANS ir'eSenteci a petition from a public meeting at St. Mattin'ti-hall against the taxes on knowledge. Mr. F. SCOTT presented a petition from a place in Scotland, praying for the reduction of the charge for celonial po , tage. . _ _ Mr. REYNOLDS presented a petition from New Ross, Ireland,' praying for an alteration in the law of landlord and tenant. Sir W. SOMERVILLE presented a petition froth in habitants residing ou the banks of the river Blackwater, against the Irish Salmon, Fisheries Bill. Mr. MACGREGOR presented a petition from Glas gow against the Public Houses (Scotland) Bill. Mr. SCHOLEFIELD presented a petition against •the enrolment of the militia. Mr, S. CRAWFORDpresented petitions from Down, Tyrone, Armagh. and Donegal, in favour of the Tenant Right (Ireland) Bill. Col. SIBTHORP presented a petition from solicitors at Lincoln, against tr,e attorneys' certificate duty. MAILS TO SYDNEY. Mr. F. FRENCH asked the Secretary to the Admi ralty whether the Australian Royal Mail Company had entered into and executed the contract with the Go vernment for the carriage of the mails. to Sydney What security had been given for the due performance of the servica contracted for? Had they been given a Royal Charter, and upon what terms as to the amount of capital to be subscribed? and when:the first steamer would bail with the mails from England? Mr. STAFFORD said the Australian Royal Mail Company had not yet entered into a contract with the Government for the conveyance of the Australian mails. The reason they had not done so was that they were waiting for a charter, as they thought it woulld be more satisfactory to cuter into a contract as a chartered company. Und-r the charter they were empowered to raise 500,0001. firscand 1,000,000/. after wards. They had already paid up between 300,000/. and 400,0001. The first steamer would sail on the 3d of June with the English mails. When the ►resent Go vernment came into office the first vessel was appointed 'to sail en the 31 of May, but since then the day had been postponed until the 31 of June. Two steamers were now being built at Dumbarton and one at London. COUNTY - COURTS EXTENSION BILL. This Bill was read a first tlnce, and ordered to be read a second time this day fortnight PUBLIC LIBR Mr. EWART wishea to know whether the Govern ment would have any objection to his bringing the sub ject of establishing public libraries under the considera tion of the lioube when the British Museum estimate cam: on? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he was a member cf the Committee that :_at upon this sub ject, and of course he wa3 fully conversant with it. He should have no objection whatever to the course sug gest4by the Hon. Member. • EASTERN ARCHIPELAGO. In reply to Sir WILLIA,M. COLERROOKE, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it was intended to renew the Siam Commission whenever circumstances should ariso that would hold out a prospect of its being successful. Circumstances had transpired of late which induced a hope that the Com mission might be appointed much more speedily than was originally anticipated.—(Hear, hear.) THE NEWSPAPER STAMP. Mr. SCHOLEFIELD wished to know if her Majesty's present Government intended to adhere to the decis►on which had been come to by the Court of Exchequer in the case of the Household Narrative of Current Events ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he had referred the case to the Crown officers, who had found it necessary to confer with the Crown officers of the late Government on the subject, and when the re sult of this conference was made known to him he should be in a position to give a satisfactory answer to this question.—(Hear, hear.) MILITIA BILL. Mr. WALPOLE gave notice that this day week, in pursuance of the resolution cf the 28th February last, lie should move for leave to bring in a Bill to amend and consolidate the Militia laws.—(Hear.) MORE MINISTERIAL EXPLANATIONS. Oa the motion that the Speaker do leave the chair for going into a Committee of Supply, Lord J. RUSSELL rose and said he wished to make a few remarks upon the altered state of things which bad takkn place since last Monday, when it would be re 'membered he endeavoured to obtain some explanation with respect to the position of the Government and the Policy which they intends d to pursue in the present session. The House was then told that the Government did not 1 Y; and the Hous e was also told that Irt'a•nel to bring f orward any mesure with regar d to t h e i r commercial p , l° Ministers int en d ed to bring forward measures of copal derable importance, which were likely to prolong the session to the usual period.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") Now it struck him and many other Members of the House that this would be a moat unusual and uncon stitutional course; for while the Government ap pealed for forbearance to withdraw for a time from one class of, measures on account their b.4g in s minority, they also TUESDAY EVENING, MARCH 23, 1852. wished the House to go on_ with certain other rues sures whiche they thought were likely to be carried by majority.—(Hear, hear.) He, however, did not refuse to grant a vote of supply, nor did he then wish the House to come to any resolution to limit the supplies to a given period, and the Government was ultimately allowed to take till Friday to determine what course they should pursue.—(Hear, hear.) Accordingly, on Friday night, the Right Hon. , Gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer in this Howe, and the Noble Lord at the head of the Government in the other House, announced the determination which the Government had come to; but he understood the Noble Lord did not complain of a question being put to him on the subject by Lord Beau mont; and the Noble Lord, without any of that reserve which characterised the statement of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, stated that although he was not prepared te advise a dissolution on any particular day in April, May, or June, yet ho should be ready, when the pressing business cf the moment was disposed of, to advise an immediate dissolution of the present Parliament, with a view to the Parliament being again assembled before the close of the year.—(llear, hear.) It ap peared to him that the statement was so far sa tisfactory that he thought, as matters now stood, it was most desirable that the House should consider at once the military an, naval estimates, and if possible vote them without ales delay.—(Hear, hear.) There was another class of esti mates which, perhaps, it would be necessary to delay foe the purpose of discussion, but all things considered and looking to the agitated state of the country, it would be he felt for the public convenience that no obstacles should be thrown in the way of speedy dissolution, and that the estimates should be voted at once,—(Bear, bear.) There was only one other measure which the exigencies of the public service would require them to pass, and that was the Militia Bill, which be should be glad to see brought in, though as to that it would be requisite that some little latitude should be allowed for discussion.—(Bear, hear.) With respect to all the other mea sures which Government might bring forward, 01 course they would bring them forward upon the un derstaeding that it would be open to the House to post pone them until a future session, and setting those meatuses aside, he should propose, with regard to the estimates, that another day should be given up each week to orders of the day, those of the Government having precedence of all others.—(Hear, hear.) ill thought Thursday would be a convenient day for that purpose. (Hear, hear.) There was another - subject upon which ho wished to ask a question of the Right Honourable Gentleman the Secretary of State for the Home Department. He understood there was to be an inquiry as regarded the Board of National Education in Ireland, but the Right Hon. Gentleman said he did not purpose that the in , quiry should take place this session, though it was intended to make some alteration in the present system.—(Hear, hear.) Now, his Noble Friend Lord Lansdowne was of opinion that if any alteration was to be introduced which should have the effect of destroying the combined plan of education, and render. ing it separate, would be a serious evil, as it would break up the system which hitherto had been so sucoessi ful of bringing Roman Catholics and Protestants te gether.—(llcar, hear.) If, in fact, there was to be any separation introduced it would gire rise to those secta rian animosities which the system was intended to neu. tralise, and he therefore hoped that no such step es that which ho had referred to was in contemplation.—(tJ eae .) Mr. WALPOLE thought he had intimated on Friday last what the views of the Cabinet were with reference to the distribution of the grant this year.—(Hear, hear.) It was not proposed to make any alteration in the mode in which the grants were distrie bated until an inquiry had been made and a Committee appointed for the purpose; and he stated in answer to the Honourable Member for Middlesex, that it was not intended to substitute the separate principle for the combined system of education as now established iu Ireland.—(Hear, hear.) The object of the inquiry would be to see if the grants paid with Tee: since to education in Ireland could be, if possible, so distributed as to give satisfaction to certain other parties in Ireland, and amongst others he had no hesitv.- tion in saying the member of the Established Church— (Beer, hear)—who certainly do not partake of these grants now.—(Hear.) It was however not intended to disturb the combined system of education, though it was thought some alteration could be made in detail, so as to make the grants available to all parties.—(gear.) Lord JOHN RUSSELL—Do you propose to make that alteration this year?—(Hear, hear.) Mr. WALPOLE thought he had answered that question distinctly. They did not wish to make any change which should make the combined system the exception, and not the rule.—(Hear, hear.) He would take that opportunity of making one observation in reply to a speech made on Friday by the Hon. Member , for Middlesex. He understood the Honourable Gen tlem in to say that the Lord- Lieatenent had, selected his chaplains es much as possible from those members of the Church who were known to be opposed to the national grant; he had now authority to state that the first even gentlemen appointed were known to be in favour of the grant, while all of them had been appointed from an impression, that the purity of their lives, and sincerity of their con victions, would render their appointments highly satis factory.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. B. OSBORNE entirely coincided as to the course to be taken in supply with the Noble lord, and had the Right Honourable the Chancellor of the Exchequer been as exelicit as his Noble Colleague on Friday night, he should not have attempted to delay the Ruppii„. But with reference to the course about to be pursued by the Government on the subject of national education in Ireland, h e mus t sa y the expla n ation of the Right Hon. G en tl eman oppos i te was most unsaisfactory.—(Hear, he ar ,) I t appeare d to hi m , indeed, that Governm e nt was going to play th e sam e g a me with the Protestants of Ireland and this country that the Pr o t ect i on i s ts. —(Hear, were playing with (Hear, hear.) The Gentlema n ' s answers , i n f a ct, were ig x Ho said th e y did not i n t en d t o ie‘t,';et honourablee extremely evasiv e. alter the system, and yet they pr o p ose d to make such a change in the grant 133 to render it satisfactory to the Establishe d Church. Now, the only way to make it sa t isfactory to the E s t a blished Church abolition, and he, there fore,much appre h ens i on t h e pro posed pose viewedd a lteration. — a l ear, hear.) The only way to give s atisfaction to th e E sta b lished Church was to w ts ith tot al sweep away the entire system, and he hoped the House would be cautious how it sanctioned any change. He hoped both the question of education and that of free-trade would be brought on at an early period of the ensuing session. VOLUNTEER RIFLE CORPS. On the motion for going into Supply, Sir DE LACY EVANS moved the following resolu tion:—" That, in the opinion of this House, it is incon sistent, on the part of 'the Government, to propose an augmentation, however sloe, of the armed and paid forces of the country, while they, at the very same time, refuse, and in dine discountenance and dis courage, the highly laudable, patriotic, and chivalrous offers of gratuitous service from various ores of the kingdom, having for their object the formation of rifle companies and regiments for the national defence." He thought that when a public impulse in favour of !' forming v o lunteer bodies of militia developed itself the Government ought not to delay expressing their opinion upon the subject. If the Government availed themselves of this noble and patriotic feeling there would, perhaps, be no necessity for a militia, or for any increase in the regular army. A great dissatisfaction and apprehension had been occa sioned in cense quence of a letter addressed by the Home Secretary in reference to the services offered by a volunteer body of the metropolis. He hoped the Go vernment would take the earliest opportunity of stating they had no distrust in the people, but on the contrary, appreciated the motives which actuated them. Mr. HUME, in seconding the motion, took the op portunity of saying that he had heard with satisfaction the statement of the Noble Lord, that it was not his in tention to interrupt or to stop the supplies. He thought they ought to afford every facility to the Govern ment to obtain the supplies absolutely neces sary before a dissolution could take place. Ile heard the observations of the Noble Lord with re gard to the militia with Very great surprise, and he could only attribute them to an ignorance of the general opinion entertained by the people on the subject. Nothing, in his opinion, but immediate necessity would warrant a conscription in the country. lie trusted the Government would reconsider the question before they proceeded with the Militia Bill. Mr. FOX MAULE said the Government intended to develops their scheme of militia on Monday, and he would then give ,it his patient consideration, though without pledging a himself to any particular course. He thought volunteers might be a very good secondary three, but he objected to trust alone to them as a de fence to the country. Sir H. IL INGLIS was glad to hear that the Noble Lord did not intend to oppose the votes in supply, and he hoped he and his party would show a little more forbear ance than they did on Friday night.—(Hesr.) Mr. BRIGHT did not hear whether Lord J. Russell extended his support to the Militia Bill. Now as that measure would create great discussion in the House and the country, h e would propose that the Government put the Bill on the table after expressing their views upon it, and tbsn allow it to remain there as one of those subjects of general policy,which was to be left to the decision of the People- The establishment of a militia wa s pecu liarly a question for the discussion of co nstituents. It e in was exceedingly un j ust t o th e country, except case of em ergency, to sett l e so important a question when tho R ouse was i u a s t a te of disorgaweetio u • con , cquertt upon the approaching dissolution. He there fore trusted th at t h e N o bl e L o rd did not give the Go vernment the sli g ht es t e x pec t a tion that he would be pro pared to assist th em i n carr yi n g such a mea sure this session. Lord Sir JOHN TYRRELL observed that the Noble _ bad come to hi s senses since Friday night, and had found he was mi s t a k en i n his effort to t. eilarge the basis of his opposition. H e h a d endeavoured t o act upon a oat and dog principle—of isterin neither edmin F affai r s bite telf nor permitti ng any one else to do so. £he Go one that verntnent had to encounter two oppositions, the met at Chesham-place, and the other to which the lion. .11?rab(r for Manchester belonged; the ono hp would call the broad-bottomed opposition, and the other the broad-brimmed opposition. (Loud laughter.) A great public actor, a Mr, Keeley, en tirely expressed his sentiments on the position of affairs when he said, in a new farce, Are you in a hurry ? lam not in a hurry—great folks are never in a hurry—the Government is not in a hurry."—( A laugh.) Now he hoped the Government was not in a hurry.— (Laughter.) They were neither afraid of the Opposi tion nor of a dissolution. Mr. RICARDO wished to know whether the Go vernment had any intention of reversing the policy upon the navigation-laws which was adopted in 1848? Mr. HERRIES explained that there had been somo misapprehension ets' to what he had stated on the . subject. What he said was that he saw with great regret the difficulty, if not actual impossibility, of reversing the policy which he believed was most unadvisedly pursued in 1848. That opinion he distinctly expressed at the time the emetinent was passed and still entertained ; bat if he were asked whether it was practicable to propose any remedy to Alleviate the distress which the repeal of the navigation .alvs had produced,:i.ho should say that he believed that come such course might be adopted. Mr. LA BOUC HERE viewed this speech as a funeral oration over his old opinions. Mr. G. F. YOUNG denied that the shipping interest was in a state of prosperity. Mr. BROWN had not, like the gentleman who last addressed the House, confined his calculations to the award entries. He had taken the tonnage inward and mtward.—(Hear, hear.) In 1844 it amounted to 691,680 tons, and in 1851 to 8,535,252 tons.— ;Hear, hear.) What was still more remlikable wry, _hat in February last the British tonnage increased by 37,000 tons, whilst the foreign increased on'y 10,003 , ions.—(Flear, hear.) Mr. HUDSON begged to call the attention of the House to a petition which he had the honour to present `corn the shipping interest of Sunderland, and which complained that, though they prosecuted their business n ship-building, they were suffering from loss and de pres ion.—(Laughter from the Opp 4iition.) It might look odd co gentlemen not engaged in commercial pursuits, but it lid occur that persons in business were often obliged to tarry on even at a loss, in the hope and expectation that matters would improve. It would rejoice those gentle nen very much it they had an assurance from the pre sent Government that they contemplated some measure if relief. Mr. MITCHELL hoped that the light dues would be .or the future paid by the public purse. Mr. NEWDEGA rE could not avoid auguriug from cur present system the utter ruin and decline of the .;rest shipping interest. Mr. E WART thought the present state of things was most prosperous, and he instanced the port of Liverpool is exemplifying in its returns the great advances which 'mach year made over the other. He did not, however, deny that the shipping interest might be beneficed, but she best method_of doing that would be in his opinion to lower the timber duties.—(Hear, bear.) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER con gratulated the House upon the announcement of the Honourable Member for Montrose that there would be no further opposition to the granting of sup plies, and he was also pleased to hear from the Noble Lord the leader of the combined opposition that there would be no further obstruction to the progress of public business. —(Cheers.) The Noble Lord was quite correct in attributing to the Government an anx ious desire for the speedy dispatch of public business, and they were also equally as anxious that a recurrence to the sense of the country should take place as soon as the necessary measures for the ser-: vice of the country had been adopted, and those measures placed before the House which her Majesty's Govern ment thought it fit should be pasoad,.before the present Parliament was broken up.—(Cheers.) After a few words from Mr. WA WN' , in reply to Sir DE LACY EVANS, Mr. WALPOLE (who was indistinctly heard in the gallery) was understood to say that, probably, the Hon. And Gallant Gentleman was aware that the late Go vernment sanctioned, in several instances, the formation of volunteer corps, subject to some conditions. The first was that they should arm, and equip themselves at their own expense; and, secondly, that they should hold themselves subject to all the provisions of the volunteer corps. Their arms should be of similar calibre and bore to those of the ordnance. He hoped the Hon. and Gal lant Gentleman would excuse him when he declined to go into the question of the militia corps. Perhaps the Llousc would give him credit when he said that the principal reason why ho wrote this letter, submitting that the formation of these corps should be suspended, was in order that he might ascertain the opinion of Par liament in reference to the measure. He ,hoped he would be excused for not going into the measure before the period arrived fur introducing the Bill; but he could assure the Hon. and Gallant Gentleman that nothing was farther from the intention of her Majesty's Minis ters than to discountenance the formation of these corps. Sir DE LACY EVANS having expressed his antis faction at the assurance given by the Right Hon. Gen tleman, N ithdrew his amendment, and the House went into Committee of SUPPLY.—THE ARMY. Mr. BERESFORD said the first vote which he would submit was that of 3,602,0671., to defray the mainteuance of her Majesty's hind forces, which was an increase of 80,9971. over the sum voted last year. The vote passed last Friday for the number of men (101,937) being an increase of 3,223 over the number voted last year, ren dered an increase of expenditure necessary in the pre sent estimates. In the estimates of last y.ar the charge for the land forces was 3,.521,0701., and in the present es timates it amounted to 3,602,0671., being an increase of 80,9971. Tnis increase might be briefly explained as follows:—lncreased charge of rank and file amounting to 56,6601.; for annual allowances, 2,809/.; for extra ordinary expenses of egency, 3271., and for clothing 7,7551., making a total of 67,5511. But there was on the other hand, a decrease on account of the number of offi,!ers of 5,339/., and of non commissioned officers of 7,3061., total, 12,645/ ; which deducted from the in crease, left a sum of 54,906/, increase. There was, be- Aides, an increase for levy money of 20,000/., and for field allowances, mainly attributed to the Kstir war, of 11,000/, which raised the increase to 86,000/, but which was reduced to 81,0001 by a decrease of 5,000/ on some other smeller items. The vote he now proposed to the House was 3 602,067/. for the charge of the land forces. Mr. WILLIAMS said he was not prepared to offer any opposition to the passing of the vete. The vote was then agreed to. Mr. BERESFORD said the next vote was that of 169.607/. for the main;eaance of staff offioers. Mr. ALCOCK sa i d notwithstanding many Members of the present Governm e nt were his personal friends, he should yet take that opportunity of expressing hi s want of confidencein them, as also his di sappro b at i on of the course pursued by them up to the present aliment.. He was by no means satisfied with the declaration of the Governmenc-atid he had no confidence in their declare tton, The es, duty they had heretofore been asking upon foreign corn would be utterly useless, acid would be unworthy the acceptance of the farmers. It was an utter delusion to say that such a duty would confer any benefit upon the landed interest. The object of this si. duty was only to .get in the sharp point of the wedge; for they thought that they could afterwards r e ise it 10.3._eire.154. He complained that the Protectionists were not sincere in their professions, and he also complained that the Free-traders were not sincere; because they did not compel the Go vernment to state unequivocally their policy upon this subject, before they appealed to the country. If they waited for six mouths longer, they most prebably would have an abundant harvest, and the Pro tectionists might then- have some better materials to work upon than they had at present. It he were asked to belong to the Anti. Corn-law League he would refuse; but. if there were an anti-corn-tax league established he would have no hesitation in joining it. He urged upon Free-traders the propriety of at once stopping the supplies. Mr. F. ;MULE availed himself of the opportunity of addressing a few observations to the Right Hun. Gentle man the Secretary at War upon the •subject that was then before them. The Committee that sat last year and the year before. upon the army expenditure recom mended that there should he only one medical establish ment for the whole army, instead of two, as existed at present—namelY, • one for the army and one for the ordnurlce, When he was in the War Office he con sulted the head of the army medical departincnt oa the subkct, and that gentleman said that, as far as he could see, there Waiilo _difficulty in adopting the pro position. He (Ur. F. Maule) understood that the Right Hon. Gentleman who had succeeded him in the office he lately held had directed the appointment of a joint committee of army and ordnance officers to consi der this question. He was not aware that this com mittee had as yet reported upon the matter; but he was _ l sure that such an arrangement as was recommended, i adopted, would be not only economical, but convenient to the soldiers generally. the Mr. BEREeFOR,I) said that he had consideredt recommendations of the committee with theut.eturors at tention. In respect to the one immediately r out e d mo. to, he was informed that the committee was l at e l ment sitting upon the subject.H ewcoo eration.ud g i ve that re port, when it was drawn up , his bast nsid the forces in their Mr. MACGREGOR thought thatt bt, reduced to a few North American colunies•migl and loyalty that at small garrisons.. The tranquillityvere, be thought, owing n those celestes been to them by present existed had been gi to the constitution whic h the Noble Lord the Member for London when ho w as se cretary T the , Earl of Derby, how. co lottess. of those ever. v. , s due the rebellion is Cana da, and to E arl Grey the Kafir war. agre ed to. The vote was then 95,957/• for allowances to the principal officers of th e their deputies, departments, clerk s, and several public oontiogen t ex P e k nse n l. 1 Military C l e • f o r the 3 - ege. 17,14 17,5 36 • 1 for thu Reyal Military Asylum and the Hi bernian Military School. stooo/. for the volunteer corps. 15.6431. for allowances to officers of her Majesty's garrisons, at home and abroad, holding their appoint ments as rewards for military service, but to which no efficient military duty attaches.—Agreed to. On the vote 61,000/ for the pay of gt mrel officers in her Majesty's forces, not being colonels of r, ginientg • being proposed, Mr. HUME slid it was stated by the late Government that they intended to draw away their troops from Ca nada. .He wishel to know whether the troops had been withdrawn, and if so, to what extent? Mr. BERESFORD eaid that there 'was no rcducticn Whatever in the staff of Canada since last year. The vote was - then agreed to. 50,000/. being the charge of full pay for reduced and retired officers of her Majesty's forces, 365,000/. for half-pay and military allowances to re duced and retired officers of her Majesty's land forces. 36,9164 fOr halt pay and reduced alloworas to officers of disbanded foreign corps, of pensions to wounded fo reign officers, and of allowance. to Ebb widows and chil dren of deceased foreign officers. 119,3371. for pensions to be paid to widows of officers of her Majesty's land ftircei. 83,0001. for allowances on the compassionate list of allowances as of her Majesty's royal bounty. and of pensions, gratuities, and allowances to officers for wounds.—Agreed to. On the voce 28,8151. for Chelsea and lidraainham Hospitals being proposed, Mr. GROGAINT wished to call the attention of the Government to the di,cuasions that took place last year upon this subject. He perceived that a considerable re duction had been made in the number of pensioners iu Kilmainham Hospital. That, he believed, resulted in consequence of a lhter written by the former Secretary at War (Mr. F. Maule). The subject was one of greet interest and importance to the ciriz na of Dublin, and to the army serving iu Leland. The late. Government were, he believed, most anxious that this institution should be abolished, and if the letter to which he had referred WRB not recalled, the hospital would soon be rut an end to. His otj,ct now was to obtain a promise, if he could, from the present Government that that establishment would be kept up. In sayirg so much he bilieved that he was but speaking the sentiments of every Irish Memh-r in that House, who concurred in deprecating the system of central:zstion which charac terised the policy of the late Government. Mr. BERESFORD said that this subject had engaged his attention bhure he bad the honour of being con nected with the •Government. Ile aeltnowl,dged ibat his nationality had greatly irdlueneed his vote un former occasions in oppOsieg the einrts made by the tato Go vernment thabulish ijilmainham Hospital. But now that he was Secretary at War he did not think that he would be quite justified in going against the rreota meudation 01 that House in dechmag to adopt she eau. mate as be found it. He only wished he had the power 'now of recaling the letter which had been written by the former Secretary at War upuu the subject. Ha din not think he could give any tui tour explanation upon the subject. Kir. P. MAULE was glad to hear that the Right Hon. Gentleman intended to adopt the recoulaseu atiou ot the House upon this subj‘-ct. Tne question ha,i been discussed more than once, and it bad been telly inquired into by a Committee - that sal sat mute than two j b. They came to tee decided opietou shot the two esesb lishineuts were unnecessary for the service ut toe army. Lie ceuldnasily believe wet Irishmen might feel teet) what sore at, the reduciiou ot such WI ‘stsuitseusee: ; but at the some time it might be devuteu to some other public ,purpose in Ireland tar inure use,ui I, • the Irish. people than it at present was. It was proposed to convert it to the purpose ut au artttlery fen - rack. He Confessed it was the object of tea late Gee verumeut, neither more nor less, time to du isesy else it altogether. The letter when no had writtto tia tut` subject was - for the purpose or preventing the vusucit, as they occurred in the hospital being tilled up. The late Government intended that there 14101113 be only one establishineUL fur the retired soldiers of toe army. fie was informed that, even if he had not written that, letter, the nuaiberin the hospitsl would nicessarily have beau reduced, Intel the circumstance of these beteg no akpii cations from pensioners to get into it. The CHANCELLOR or the EXCHEQUER could assure 'the Hon. 'Member - for Dublea he (pee sympa thised with him in the view he tonk ot this subject. Ii was, howeverolonsidered desirable, under present cir nenastences,- tnat no alteration should be made in the es titnatea of their - predecessors; but he did not wish the Hon. Member to understand that the Government were opposed- reeousideration - ot the question. The question would ;be reconsidered in a fair and candid spirit, whether the Government could, consistently with their viewielake eitch's course es would have the Effect of continuing Kilmainhem Hospital fur the purposes for which it was originally establisbed.—(flear.) Mr. HU VIE was sorry to hear such a statement from the Right, Hon. Gentleman; for if any,question met with geaerad unentwity it was that regarding the propriety of abolishing this hospital, It was quite unnecessary for 'the Right Hon. Gatleniaii to Make such en observatiou as bad just fallen from him. He hoped that b.-eore the Government would reconsider the recommendation that they -had come to on the subject, they would first inquire whether there was any evidence that could set asiuu the strong facts that had already been laid before them. Colonel DUNNE said he was certain that the people of Dublin would be most happy at hearing the Ce d e. cellur of the Exchequer declare that the question wuuld be reconsidered. I‘l , ..tbieg could be more unpopular in Ireland than the attempt to remove this hospital, oecause .it was unjust. He could assure the Right Lion. Gentle man opposite (Ur. F. Maule) that there were sev era l -pensioners moat anxious to enter the hospital. As an Irishman and a soldier be felt grateful to the Chancellor of the Exchequer fur saying that the Government in tended to reconsider this question.—(Hear.) Sir IL W. BARRON . said the observation of the Right Hoh. GWatlercan the Chancellor of the Exchequer undoubtedly give great satisfaction to the Irish people. cointileite-d of the unanimity which gene rally existed atnuegst the English and Scotch Members to deprive : Ireland of everything that was of advantage to her. Mr. FORBES disclaimed for himself having ever been influenced by such a teeing, Ars 144.11 E begged to contradict the Hon. Gentleman as tar, nit be was individually concerned, and challenged him to mention one i nstance i n w hi ch he had given vote against the interests of Irelind. Colonel FREEST UN wished to ask his Hon. and Gal lant Friend whether he- intended to- renew his annual motion respecting the uuitorm and accoutrements ut the army ? Colonel DUNNE said, as a member of the (.4overia mew, he mind not give ens promise on the subject.— (Trollied Owens ) Mr. W. W AMS having made a brief observatioe,' . Tne vote was egreed ,to; 1.226,8Q31. ter out7Petisioecirs of Chelsea Hospital fOr peueiout grante d • $o discharged ur gro so ld iers ; for p ' en- ' inviter's feoixt the P .flatu+v,4latt cur a si=eved h 1 the'Britiih 4rtny iu 1793, 1794, and 1795, tsud fur the. military organizstiou of out-peubiositrs in the Uuiteu Kingdom.—Agreed to. 37,500/. for allowances, compensations, and etnolu men,s, tit the nature of. ett e etauuwitioa or retired at lowanpeN to peewe e formerly t elonging to the several putfi tieMinci•iita.ligreed to. Qa t e e question that the report be received, Mr. HORSMA.N rose t o a.k et qariou in reference , to theolitina with , which the troops were supplied, M s , BURESFORD.said that the quentiou of arms applied more to the'Ordnance department than to his. The report was then ordered to be received. Sir G. PEOHELL said that they were now' about to propose 3 vote for th e Mr. BERNAL (interrupting) informed the Hon. and Gallant Dleinber that attire waste> actual question before NAVY - ESTIMATES. be . , that 134633/ On the questiongranted for the salaries of the officers of the Admiralty-office, Sir G..PEGam , L said, in all his experience during 17 or 18 years ot the v tea upon the navy estimates, he had never known so largo and important an estimate brought forward for the navy without some explanation being offered as to the administrative affairs of that de partment.. He congrataleted the officers of the navy generally upon the appointment to the head of the Ad miral!y of an officer of itwit: diatteguished talent as the Duke of Northumberland, and he trusted that he would carry out the views he had always entertained on behalf' of the service. Be also highly eulogised the services of Admiral. Sir H. Parker during the late war. With re gard to the future naval policy of the new Government, he wished to have had som e explanation. Did they mean to keep up the. African squadron in its preseLt efficieneyi or did they mean to withdraw it? In what way did they mean to carry out the promotion in the navy in future? Did they intend to carry out the policy, of the late Government with respect to the entry of cadas? He complained, of the" indirect in fleetiec.i' that always exercised in the naval de partnient with :regard to these appointments, and he trusted the system would be "put an end to. With regard to the system of earryirig Specie on board of men .of war to this country, he 'lied frequently complained of the favouritism that was practised in this respec t, and ev au strong remonstrances had been made by. the *axle Go vernment regarding the manner in which this was ond foe of specie Sines 1819 he found , that no less a sum than 1 454,50.11. , had been paid , by the public for-the c o onv ( e? ,5 1 f a that. sum had froth (broad to thienouritry; to admirals : 3 . 6 t 3 i 0 ',32 8 51. where it was been paid so captains of ships, and and commodores on the severs a v gave Greenwich Hospital ethbarked.' ' NeP4I; eifikthwes'' 191nd—natnelk. a fourth, hrthe,sum t o , -r 3 e . d in l e f t of 1,0 m 95 e , n 57 0 6 u l the 363,5251 . , there would be o d eu the gentlemen would be available ad a Nu . 'and for for incre ! tstegth e pay g and pensions of re tired list, naval officers who had distinguished themselves. Wi t h re gard to ta Invasion, s -nationneither he nor his consti tuents had much to fear ot it. HeobjtehceEri mekk, Lisa o f objected to any fur ther grants fo r such a p ur p o se — let w h at they had got. Some years ego they were told they ought to have a fleet at the Nore end another P„rts moutb, at orts mouth, and every effort was ma de produ c the public wind, in ord e r to enable the Government i t n o o:10 pass increased Paties. against soy vo l e fur additi,ne, howeve r , p ro t este d a national defences, and hoped, before the vote was passed, some exoteealion would be given of the naval policy of the new Govern ment. Mr. A. STAFFORD assured the Hon. and Gallant Gentleman and the Cernalitue that it was from uo die respect to them that be had not made any statemei.t when the estimates were brought forward, but in d, ferenee to the wishes of those who thought ter esti mates ought to be gone through as speedily us possible, with a vies to th e dissoluri .m(1 was so much de. aired by the oilier side of the House. He deprica:ed as ! an n oy as t h e Hon. sod Gallant Gentletton tne system ot Parliamentary jobbing 'lusting in th, dock yards, and he hoped that the sc, ps that were now being taken wouli put an end to it. As regard-d !he A , ri,-an squadron, it was, as well know'', a vexed and d.ffi..ult question—if there was to be an African squadron at all it must be an Effiuient one, or it would oo more harm than good. Thu Board of Admiralty, however, bud nothing to do with its continuance or dis cont i nuance . Respecting the system of nominating mints through the iuflueuce of Duchesses and Marchionesses, us the Honourable and Gallant °IR :ET termed it— that would, in future, be strictly li m i te d , and t h e policy laid down by the late Government closely ad hered to. They were most desirous to keep down the dead weight. and the only way to do it in that depart ment was to keep down the number of naval cadets. regard to the conveyance of specie the evil was re medying itself every d a y, as l ess came over in ships of war every year. Seeing that the present Board had been only about ten days in office, they could not in -that time have accomplished any very extensive change; ; but they were moat anxi ous t o promote the due economy and and efficiency of every bread of the oral service. Admiral BERKELEY said - al the recent AdminatY Board, to which he had the honour to belong s bad subjected to an enormous quantity of abuse by END, Members of the Ministerial side of the House and the public press, he must express his astonishment that the present Board of Admiralty had bad the audacity to tette up and propose their estima'as to the House. :iAs.-ree; girded the case of the Megmta,,he thought a most-com plete answer had been given to the infamous istotire respecting that vessel. Another charge made against the Administration was that respecting stinking meat.eie (A laugh.) The Hon. Gentleman who brought it for ward said that, instead of looking to the comforts of the men, the late Board had_neglected their Thal:test answer he could give to the charge was this, that the lion. Gentleman by whom the contract had been node had been taken out of their ranks and placed in a similar office by the new Government. Again, with regard to the transport of troops, it was asserted that the T ali Admiralty had so conducted that service as to have al most sacrificed a noble regiment. Why, it was ere}know!? that the regiment had been-recruited 'in Irelan during the famine, and that the result was that cholera broke out on board, and the colonel commaedieg stated that he had never seen tans thing equal to the vessel, t It Apolle, fur cleanliness, comfort, and accommodation. was acid that the Admiralty was so imbecile and ine cient that it cou ld not convey troops from Eti.Oand to the Cape in safety, while the Fret ce Ceuta 11.0;04 • 10.000 men fom Toulen to Civite lirecnti;te v ithoet act dent. Why, the difference was the same between the two voy tges as lietween walking up Primrose -hill and ascendin g Mout Blame. During the east winter 04- had sent Pig ships with troops to the Cale without 1111 , occident. L was said that the y managed matters eolsoldl that they could not send out a s teamer without her Week; ing down. The COmmittee was aware of the large fl-et o f steam-ships that were kept at sea, and the whole nutleh e e t of those that had broken down during the last ,teie lv " , months was only three. Be had obtainf d returns from als of the largest private steam companies, ,the. wbole ° whose vessels did not amount to one-third the elle th e l : kepi afloat by the Admirelty , and it appeared in the same period the number that bad broken d o ," was no less than tweety. So much for Admiralty (els' roanagrment. Toe Hon. Member fir the Wes t Wings thal a " man of peace," r u s h e d to t he rese w, and would f")A.11 tell the Admiralty how to mat age the na v y laugh.) Really, he reminded them of the Quaker ca p ta ", - of a es eat Ind,ausen, who said to the mate when tr'; v'steer .pprGached, 5 rtke thy colour', triend," to O! .h. - mate repli Strike be d -et. run her vowel--; (Laughter ) Upon this the e. - .. Well, I and the p ays appr"sa"...f s.and by sire en?' hailed her and erted our," it, ' tech' cc's tel cia intend, a arboard ,try enn It. ii." wh,gn he liCCtl ie, t• gly did and ha the destr.d .; i n cliathan '''g tight over the pm atre a-(Le e 1 he Hu i . m e seeee would b'ut't the Mum ..t) !it. s end' tt'i 6 •bere ai d that H ite h. re, 'rid so on. Wh), it * " f a ff, ing to sib erve he gultiteley of tee pets' CI-l`,:1. ntar.) How could it h.. imagined that a set ot, Da men could sit et the based and permit chit ga to 00E" C O such a pass es that ('s way suppoeed to re the Coe/ they ceuld scArcely man a slog!e e hip. Why lit- 6 rime of all the outcry-although the board did out , e° to add to the alarm, nor to meke a fuss about 'l'7; had the Government said, '' We want to look out" I n twenty-four hours the Channel would have beeae covered from the North Foreland to the Channel Islenee; with a fleet of steamers within sight of each other! ov_ much for surprise. But still he admitted tha t ther e i were not as many ships as there ought to have been' 11 ! that there oy_l_it-to have been a larger force to bac k eoPf the Steamers., (Hear.) His opinion was' that in tim e war the Channel ought to be a place of refuge Ogee friendly flag, and a hornet ' s nest for an enenry.e-,a ' cis and a laugh.) Ile beli eve d th ere wa s one Pi n ' f t which-not through the f a ult o f the Admiralty. bat 0 0 the House-the country was too weak; they ought have a reserve of seamen at all times ready, to the ten s of 5,000 incten.-(Hear.). Mr. WiILLIAMS Said, any one looking o ver th e counts or, expenditure' for the past year, and the applicei tion of it, would_be at a l ees t o i mag i ne the grout:JAl:l. the eulogium passed upon th e navy by the Gallan t miral (Berkeley). The Gallant O ffi ce r had actually eel_ they were ready at twenty-four hours' notice , t° eele o r t the Channel with steamers. Why there wet s uds twenty-two vessels in commission in any of eu r ,P ° 4 - tbi,s country, or anywhere near it, of " ieh there :- only six sail of the line (and four of these were port _ miral chips, not properly neanned),,,riad . three . orif.ct . steamers . The fact was, that the peopled this coulltr! who had from the age of Alfred, for aboutel,ooo yOrq I been accustomed to look to; the navyas their Mein defeebee had 'Ceased so to regard force e rather upon a military end had lien led .to :volt • o f 'protection. Since th close of the war 220,000004 ' had been voted for t he support of • tii . A navy. (b4idee the armaments of thaoteii ! nawe), 9,000,00 e1. had been spent in the docieyeed i ek 55,000,000/. had been spent , o n shi p - bui ld i n g , of whietr 30 0000004 might have been spared, and better spent; 1,500,000/. had, beep spent' an Keyham . Dock alo ne ' whieh was net finished yea Ancl, atter all, while at Shet god of the war we had 666 ships in commission, we , 1 2 01 had-not 150! Now all these were evidences ,Pf gr.?' mismanagement on the pa r t Of t he navy adatinistraLloni And there, was on Obvioui reason for it, that -11 ' was at the head of the Admiralty, and thit the tilYt" to officers who . belonged to it bad to atten d that e- IT e t . i ee from four till twelve, or one or two in the morning%elea_ :dead of having (as they require d) regular rest andeat_tL, heads in the morning to per their work svell.-(l4ee; hear, and laughter.) Leet year 5,600,p00t !veroef all • puoded, yet we had °lily 142 ships: in cstuna 3l . ol°B „.! . .i. e 0 sizes, from thssloweie, lacluotag veare:•ls .0 4 ° I°. th only. gusuits,ar , d the great majarity under AO ge ne, art ad.• F - 17 sail of the line, of which f:ur or five were P 6. teirels rhips; only half'insni,ed. He cotild trot drive how the money was eXpend•-d. Is Was clear t o d i only, g,ouu 000/. of is went for the . pay of the 11 1 ,0,°. For' thsereet-3.6U000t11. Was lo a great's-Zfent' w"rr-4. instauee, a vast deal was expended -oh the ht4 f ' o %aehe pen:,touse-ot the honer ff eeivei part (if _the- es e u' o f 35 meet._ was the greater new after Upri4r"! it eetire' p ace then it was thseend et the war. rhe w as *us L,34n,00U1, tinsv It . sva; 1 35110001. not a' 'Aerial,' When the list was ' lo,ked at, 'JD cen .. , erteed 245' alni r ele (tee to eieen': ship in etatirteitiaa cud 80 ovr.l), 581 is 6121_ , Ut 10 captains ,or Volihrstiri era to each bl llear ' esphaiiti, ;and 911 commanders .t e " mmi ' siva • Teen. epee, qt the atrwtiat vered On se heal t "r nit? m 'l:4-T slily uh.,At:- 250,0001 "5, CI ' nue' d ; the reste ea-euut 4;100: 00oli wars abiterhete the inferior offiiers. nd,after all this .vreiTabrt i Wt man a line•o!-uattle stop Without weiPti tw° „, l :ijorbil k u Y thi e sie e tu, t tu h t e boeu A sgi nii e :r .au i tn c r a ei n ina s .v c y o T u h ld e a r b wa ta s ni ori a , e :f a t e b Y ist t ti tcn e.. t . l a ie z e ;, - . dare eomprised great t'umb'le many excellent e h 7c ti e s lie w ri e t i :ffi lo ci g:li a ; POw yr they eeefe eeteusted Witbelied often e.xerci very improperly, as in the instaects t,f the, marine r l2 , v . wet shut summarily by` order of the cap t a in ; tinder b i t cninetaucea be had recently'ethailecf, and Width lifi b : since twin assured he had truly stated. - - /tr. THE - L.A.W 11Y aid ha-:wished-to submit this'eteg statement. The sum asked' for, the bevy was 5,600e9P- . Ot this oblY 2,600.000/. Wee. fOr Now, the. be". seamen could be had fur a: a week, .or 501. a year, which rate 40.000 able seamen could be had. Agfo, , ter 1.000.000/. out of the 3600,000/. rereetioingten titles of-hettle shipe could be bitilt.of 1.00 guns each. • re o k nn ' , jug at the rate of 1,000/ea gun. Now, a line- , nfeleattle . ship would lase 70 year. • • . '• ' Admiral BOWLES-Ob.ll-etehe•catrou' •!eich4 until Mr. TRELAWNY - W, lately was in service, was taleen.troo:_t_tn; F r e nchAt 13 " ' Mg . a .. 19 rate, the war, and was fully,,to e there ought to 'be It:: l o e n a d o ? . t e as e r a aettetionfe°f. expenditure bati e 107 us we had been ears. up wards, of 30 years. t g7r , aa?tr:ertr.eeratin atof this a t f h fann being,the owe,. ee buildin d 1 - m°l l" .11 1 PPPuilture.ne would 0 0 ' a b e ee i n e h .utter alt '4lAe4 tete ov.enormouaexpe-1. w the wrong place. The fact sel incurred. wet:4 1n n had been s • t • Key b i T t el t at , t c p e e d ec o l u f n ! i 4h , i first 'greet --92 e. t Pk" iii filling de0 1 44,- - More iu diggieg.ou a c o: l w d e have e evbae:euna to have • kept o 8 designed for the urpoie, P il o ° plan which nature had de • out that i p t girnieseelf wAi t s n ° es t :eci in it (e s a y arn siem of w hy not complete ite-ell be tter ad beenekpr esetii :bl4tien6,atdei after, all it bsd.torne hheaers-e)oulThere theft the harbour of PI t lrl iu ti Y ad n h e' Mouthdeposit of rettli a *4°l infallibly founder a hoe ' tending to r aise ono Ws unless the syste m was line in shipregard )stem was with t put a stop to. to the let A ' 0 dune It h y were no t responsible e thought t e responsible forcer for the failure of tbe reserve aeo n her o , for the Previous Board had built them in, `', during a panic ; and, of course, what wee done t o hurry was not done well. About 1,400,0001 bad b b e io r i lest year expended in the dockyards - e su m vi te - sa ought to have resu:ted in Abe building of • fohrei. new line-of-battle chips, at thO rate of 100,000/ arid what a , fleet ought, there to haye " ,,heette i4a t e r e e plet of 20 or 30 yeara' building, it't,thise rate? . ..Pu‘ i 5 Was, the ceuetry had not a quarter of the , ; "wild be ought to have according to these calcueet.ontee eeti believed instancy -s bad occurred of ships rottieg,iu without ever havit g been.to sea! - eroseli Admiral BO W LES :lid the Hon. Member e',_, '-;snits • in error as to the average- .age- _of litre-ot-bal u " - ,.;,040 being 70 years;- Hear, hrar)-end a. to the in s he he had wentiontd of th e Canopus, e1t..e414 t aken the French, then quire new, in 1798. 15 e l hardly a with , r of the old ship in her, !remit w, tee ago entirely reboil' ; and the ti ills was, tha t in twouv, years a line of-battle ship,recleired repairs often t tl: i ' a i ree. sing in cost et a , hied ot the original f xpensi.o ~loosThe 'tin. Memb , r must pot argue on s uch telua egos calcidattome-elear, hear.) WA l h regard to ie,vd Doelc, he . differed f , p orn the HAI. mber t bps n ell i. ". f. it lii,d,that, it wutud.:•lis" d op . impo , sible to find a finer situation One , berar.bas he thought. that the es sblishment of the deck %ttd, was a 1 - smokable preot 'the 'tore sight of 0? t hst miralty under Sir R -beet Pea He coesider a ' .. , b; the esorka were realty magnificent, and he I' d ' l a ir . they flight to be completed bsi.hnut ftri _d of approved of the c ore.- then hyetire hie First I,or 1 , the Admiralty in discouraging their. ertuipletiorlA,s, wished he c.itild agree with the Gallant Admiral ( I° :' ea . ley) as to tee possibility (at the time the la re steamers rinent, left effic-) covering the Channel with stea.etbe in 24 hours.-(Hear, hear.) He knew not whe ra ko o men ee re to be totted.-(Heer, hear.)" lea did hie o f this--that there was not in ary English port a 6 'bed war in lull force-01as, hear) -and if a equadresb:oo riot been or& red le me frim tor, ign 'service, ell ie r e ae ite would have been deteeceless. - (Llear. J ", e . . for g lory agreed with the Gallant Officer as to the Become) 5,000 additional seamen as a reserve. Nothing w%naieg absurd than for a ere at nation like eerie after rP • _ " elate, between 5,000 0001. and 6 000 000/ -on tree ld render grudge a few hundreds of th ousands, which•woo, resew! °.e the service really efficient , and p revent tbe tr-r any panic from en "scheme of it:114404 e rY ory, (Hear, hear.) As to the scheme of the res . he thought it a delusion. 5.....•••... Admire OEBeer we sPonsibili hputetior hours aft ( %uld h a , tor s ea .. a n et. He the prase tnd coull credit for Peel. Admirt valiant Would tat Mr. W were to b Sir F. Gentlima k new no "P. Mei ,atyy Li conceived hotte a no tia not t aoura the ready f or Mr. w Sir F. went, int Mr. W tot w ive Sri F. 7 - (1411441 f ormation stand ho regard to the work taittre o notion tt taring tt bottling probable that not add bring a The pre tespeet ti t,olta M 4 the nme * Or 40)