The Sun. — London, England, 1865-03-11 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT HOUSE OF LORDS—LAST EvENzta. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack at five o'clock. BARRACKS IN IRELAND. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE asked the Secretary of Statd for War if the rumour was true that several small barracks in Ireland were to be sold ? Earl DE GREY said it had for some years been under consideration whether certain small barracks should not be sold. The Duke of Wellington had had the subject of small barracks constantly under his consideration, but the matter had been now in some measure decided on, as it WAS proposed to dispose of 19 small barracks, but barracks in Galway were not amongst the number. Soine of the other small barracks it was proposed to use as militia stores. In reply to Lord PA.Nmtran, Earl DE GREY said that the Government was well convinced of the inadvisability of splitting up the regi ments into small detachments. The Earl of MALMESTITTBY trusted a price commen surate with the value of the barracks would be insisted upon. The subject then dropped. THE CASE OF MR. EDMUNDS. The LORD CHANCELLOR laid on the table reports and documents relative to the case of Mr. Edmunds, and moved that they be printed for the use of the members of the select committee exclusively. The motion was agreed to. ATTORNEYS AND SOLICITORS BILL. The LORD CH.ANCELLOR moved the second reading of this bill. Lord ST. LEONARDS objected to the measure that it would abolish all the regulations of the courts for the pro tection of clients, and legalise bargains such !as that of w hich they h a d ,had experienca in th e course of the well known case of Swinfen and Kennedy. Again, the clause allowing attorneys acting as trustees to charge their costs, would enable an attorney to instruct himself to tax his own costs, and to make a legal bargain with himself. The LORD CHANCELLOR said the bill was in sub stance the same as that of last year, when it was read a second time after debate. Its object was to alter the only relic in our institutions of the ancient absurdity of attempt ing to regulate the remuneration of professions and trades. He admitted that the trustee clause was susceptible of amendment, but he could recommend with confidence the remainder of the bill. Lord CHELMSFORD regarded the measure as vicious in principle. With respect to conveyancing, he suggested the adoption of the Scottish system, which was a scale of remuneration according to the value of the property. Lord CRANWORTH doubted whether a sufficient case had been made out for a general departure from a very salutary principle, althoug he was favourable to the bill as regarded the conveyancing business, but not at all in cases of contentious litigation. On a division the bill was rejected by 23 to 21. Their lordships adjourned at 10 minutes past seven o'clock until Monday. HOUSE OF COMMONS-LAST EVENING. The SPEAKER took the chair at 4 o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. On the motion of Mr. C. FORSTER., the order of the day for the second reading of the South Hams (Devon) Rail way Bill was discharged, and the bill was withdrawn. On the motion of Mr. C. FORSTER, the minutes of evi dence taken before the committee on the London, Tilbury, and Southend Railway Bill in session 1852 was referred to the committee on the London, Tilbury, and Southend Railway Bill for this session. PETITIONS. Petitions were presented in favour of a reduction or re-- peal of the malt tax ; the duty on fire assurance ; for a redress of the alleged grievances of Indian officers ; for an improved system of railway communication in Ireland. LAW RELATING TO PATENTS FOR INVENTIONS. Mr. HIBBERT asked the Attorney-General whether her Majesty's Government intended to bring in a bill this ses sion to carry out the recommendations of the commission for inquiring into the working of the law relating to letters patent for inventions. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that the Government would introduce a bill on the subject, in accordance with the recommendation of the commission. REGISTRATION OF COITNTY VOTERS. Mr. WESTERN asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether it was his intention to bring in any measure founded on any of the recommendations contained in the report of the select committee on registra tion of county voters ; and, if not, whether he purposed to introduce any bill for the amelioration of the present sys tem of county registration. Mr. T. BARING, in the absence of Sir G. Grey, said that his hon. friend the member for West Sussex introduced a bill on this subject, but he was unable to prosecute it this session from his state of ill health, but the honourable member for Northampton intended bringing forward a bill on the subject, and under these circumstances Government did not intend to introduce any bill in reference to the sub ject. POLITICAL ASSOCIATION IN DUBLIN. Sir H. BRUCE asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland whether his attention had been called to the fact of a sti pendiary magistrate having signed a requisition to the Lord Mayor of Dublin to convene a meeting to form an association for certain political objects ; and, if so, whether he considered it consistent with the duty of a stipendiary magistrate to sign such a requisition ? Sir R. PEEL said that the attention of the Government had been drawn to this subject, and it appeared that Mr. French, the magistrate in question, was a most respectable Roman Catholic gentleman, who had discharged his duties for 18 years in a most efficient manner. The Government had thought it right to direct his attention to the matter, and they had received a reply inwhichhe regretted the course he I had adopted, and which he has taken merely in his capacity of a chairman of the board of commissioners of Cashel. The Government considered that under the circumstances it was unnecessary to :institute any inquiry into the matter. Mr. SCULLY moved the adjournment of the house in order to enable him to make some observations on this subject, and deprecated the principle that a gentleman holding the position of Mr. French, who was the heir pre sumptive to Lord French, should be prohibited by his offi cial status from passing an opinion on any public subject. His resignation of the office in which he acted would be an injury to the district where he resided. After a few words from Sir R. PEEL, The motion was withdrawn on the promise that the right hon. baronet would consent to postpone the second reading of the Union Officers. Superannuation (Ireland) Bill until after Easter. THE UNIVERSITY OF LONDON. Mr. (I•. DUFF asked the First Commissioner of Works whether he had under his consideration the letter from the senate of the University of London, dated Nov. 10, 1864, on the subject of a building for the university ; and whether he proposed to take any, and, if so, what steps, with a view to meet the wishes of that body; as explained in the specification which had been laid before him. Mr. dOWPER said that he had received communications as to the amount of building accommodation which would be required by the University, but it was an important question, and should be referred to a commission. PUMPING OF SEWAGE TO HAMPSTEAD, &c. Mr. BLAKE asked the hon. member for Bath whether, adverting to Mr. Elli s ' s l etter to the chairman of the Metro politan Board of Works (dated Feb. 18, 1862), a copy of which will be found at page 415 o f the Report on Sewage (Metropolis), and the seventh c l ause of Mr. Ellis's tender for the sewage, which will be found at p. 423 of thesanie as well as Mr. Ellis's examination before th e select commit,repee report of last session, and in partic ular his answer in question 2,100, which will be found at p a g e 85 of the same report, it does not appear that Mr. Ellis's plan does contem platenotgate, pumping the sewage to Hampstead, Highgate, Shooter's-hill, or any:other point to which the Metropoli tan Board of Works objected. Mr. TITE, who was scarcely audible in the reporters' gallery, entered into some explanation on the subject, and was understood to say that the matter should be fully con sidered, and that the Metropolitan Board of Works ought not to be called in to decide the partial point at issue. ANOMALY IN TARIFF. Mr. J. B. SMITH asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether it was his intention to rectify the singular anomaly in our tariff—viz., that while wooden ships and all articles manufactured of wood, are allowed to enter British ports free, the raw material wood is subjected to a duty ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that one of the ways of removing the anomaly was to impose a tax on shipping—(laughter)—but he could assure the hon. member that there was no such intention. He was not Prepared to give an answer to the question at present. UNION CHARGEABILITY BILL. In reply to Mr. BENTLNCX, Mr. VILLIERS said it was intended to proceed with the army estimates next Monday, and if the discussion respecting them was over at an early hour, it was intended to move the second reading of this bill. In reply to Lord STANLC'EITDE. Sir C. WOOD said that Ts'everal letters and dispatches on the subject had been recei ved yesterday, and ho would lay them before the house withou deIay.STIMAES. THE ARMY ESTIMATES. In reply to General PEEL, h emost conve on. The Marquis of HARTINGTON said the nient course to him would be for the and gallant member to defer his observations on these estimates until he (the Marquis of Hartington) had made his general state ment. " AN IRISH GENTLEMAN." Mr. HENNESSY asked for information relative to the law in Ireland in consequence of a most extraordinary statement which appeared in the newspapers this morning. This statement was to the effect that on Monday last a man named Patrick Doyle was convicted at the assizes at Kilkenny of vagrancy and sentenced, in the absence of bail, to some years penal servitude. That conviction took place on an act of Queen Anne, and he thought it was bb solste. _Before the same judge who presided at the assizes at Kilkenny a man was convicted of personating a postman and stealing a letter, and was sentenced only to a month's imprisonment, on the ground that he had not been employed by the Post-office authorities. He would expect information on this subject fr. 3,11 the Secre tary for Ireland on a future day. Mr. ROEBUCK said he found that the party was con victed of the offence of being an Irish gentleman who would not work. (Great laughter.) NEW ZEALAND. On the motion of going into committee of supply, Mr. A. MILLS called the attention of the house to the state of affairs in New Zealand, and moved an address to the Crown on the subject of the war in that colony, but said that in consequence of an alteration in the policy of Government towards the colony, he would not press his motion. However, he condemned in strong terms the con duct pursued towards New Zealand by this country. Mr. ROEBUCK denounced the cry that had been got up on this subject as one of the shams which should be ex posed. He contended that in prosecuting conquest and colonization this country had extended English civilization, and referred to the aboriginal state of America when it was inhabited by a cruel savage and vindictive race, as a proof of his assertion, and the advantages effected by the dominion of a civilised nation. Mr. BUXTON, at some:length, denounced the policy of this country towards New Zealand Mr. ADDERLEY remarked that, whether successful or not, the attempts of the Imperial Government to enable the Maories to live peaceably with the settlers were cre ditable to the country. The anomaly in New Zealand was that we had invested the colonists :with self-government, without making them responsible for self-defence. Upon the whole he considered the future of the colony as full of promise, now that a new policy had been inaugurated, and he hoped ere long to see rising in the South as well as in the West, a great English colony, self-governed and self reliant, and England ceasing to think that colonial connec tion involved that kind of dependence which only had the effect of crushing out all spirit of enterprise. Mr. MARSH regretted to say that it was too true that the natives of New Zealand had been supplied with arms by English merchants, though he could not say what " manner of men" they were. Referring to the statement that the Maori population were continually being dimi nished, he mentioned that the diminution was greater prior to the settlement of the islands, than it had been since. Mr. CAVE approved of the change of policy recently introduced. By making the colonists hereafter fight their own battles they would be more inclined to live peaceably with their neighbours, and the natives would have a better chance of fulfilling a destiny that would be worthy of so fine a race. After some observations from Lord A. thruncunay Lord STANLEY thought in the natural course of things, the Maori race must disappear, as all other abori ginal tribes had done who had ever come into contact with European civilisation. What we ought now to do was to satisfy ourselves that the colonists did all they could in their own behalf ; then to continue to them such temporary military aid as they needed, on the understanding, how ever, that it was kept down to the lowest point, and that it would not be similarly given after the termination of the war. There was one thing which he hoped would not be done ; it was that the governor would not have any power over matters of diplomacy and native relations independently of all control on the part of his respon sible advisers. In short, he would say, limit your aid as much as you can • withdraw it as soon as possible. Lord R. CECIL urged that the Legislature was bound to see that native rights did not suffer harm. At the same time, as the management of native relations was to be handed over to the colonists themselves, it was the duty of Parliament to withdraw the power of England trom the scene of conflict as rapidly as possible. Observations - were also made by Mr. W. E. FORSTER and Mr. KINNAIRD. Mr. CARDWELL argued that there was ample room for civilised culture, the growth of population and property, and for both races to live side by side in New Zealand with out the necessity of dispossessing the Maories. And he added, that if ever there was a native race capable of pro fiting by the advantages of civilisation it was the natives of New Zealand. It might have been wise or not to make the treaty of Waitangi ; but having made it it was equally just, wise, and honourable, to observe its provisions. As yet the rebellion had not been extinguished, but if the war was dying out, and we withdrew the 10,000 troops we had there, and intimated our desire no longer to be made the instruments of perpetuating hostilities, he though we might safely conclude that no war policy would be pursued by the colonists. Ho did not believe it possible to subjugate the Maories without the assistance of the power of Eng land, and that being so he presumed the colonists of them selves would not be ambitious to attempt it. He readily accepted, then, the new policy which the colonial Ministry and Assembly had recently offered to adopt. Mr. M'EVOY moved to resolve that the Government should now adopt the recommendations of the select com mittee of 1858, with regard to the claims of Ireland to a grant of the half-cost of medical officers in unions, with the view of providing for the same in future, as is now the practice in England and Scotland. Tho motion was opposed by the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, on the ground that the re commendations of a select committee were not conclu sive reasons for guiding the decision of the house, and be cause a select committee had been reappointed to consider the general question of Irish taxation. After discussion, in which Mr. NEATE, Mr. WHITESIDE, and other members took part, the motion was negatived, upon a division, by 37 to 34. Mr. AUGUSTUS SMITH addressed some remarks to the house relative to the operations of the Westminster Im provement Commission, which elicited an explanation from Mr. TrrE in reply. The Game (Ireland) Bill was read a second time by 50 to 8. The Private Bill Costs Bill was road a third time and passed. THEATRES AND PLACES OF AMUSEMENT. Mr. LOCKE, in moving for leave to introduce a bill to amend the law relating to theatres and other places of public amusement, said that its object was partly to obviate the danger to which the public were at present exposed in those buildings in case of accident or fire. The object of the bill would settle the question that had arisen between the theatres and music halls, and he understood there was no objection to it on the part of the Government. Ho moved for leave to bring in the bill. Mr. T. G. BARING would not oppose the bill at that stage. As far as he knew, however, the Lord Chamberlain had taken every precaution to insure the safety of all build ings in which public entertainments were given. (Hear.) Leave was then given to bring in the bill. Mr. CHILDERS brought in the Marine Mutiny Bill, which was read a first time. The house adjourned at 25 minutes past 9 o'clock. The Burglary in Mark-lane. Yesterday the three men named Rowland (otherwise Hogan), Bell, and Notley, who stand charged with break ing and entering the premises of Messrs. Twiss and Browning, commission agents, at 47, Mark-lane, and stealing three cashboxes containing banknotes and a number of securities representing merchandise of great value, were brought before the Lord Mayor, at the Justice-room of the Mansion-house, for further examina tion. Mr. Humphreys, solicitor, of Newgate-street (Hum phreys and Morgan), conducted the prosecution. The prisoners, who are an very young men, defended them selves. The manner in which the prisoners Rowland and Bell contrived to get within the front door of the premises in question in Mark-lane, by one of them taking a letter ad dressed to a servant girl living at the top of the house, and saying he would wait until she wrote an answer, has already been reported, as has also th e wa y i n w hi c h th e y a ft erwar d s of a door, and Browningan entrance into tho offices of Messrs. Twiss and an on d th t e ground floor by breaking the glazed panel lock on thsoeraine siodfew; in a key ich had been left in the h b g i u e t h th a erest of the attendant circum bstraonucgehst, clearly out until are very remarkable, were not g, whoye a rday. It appears that Messrs Twiss and Browning, osafes,ffie extensivelyaud thatengaged thes e are as commission agents, have two Jr: inclosed in a strong-room in their office. was never out one of the iron safes they kept all their more valuable .ln documents, includ ing securities for money, and the key of this of the possession of one of the partners. It wasw the efforts by one of Chubb's patent locks, and had resisted al of the burglars to open it. The other safe contained the books of the firm, some petty cash, and papers in two cash boxes, and nearly 60 dock warrants in an iron box, repr o .. 1 renting merchandise to a large amount, but which a thief could not have negotiated. All negotiable bills and moneys belonging to the firm were kept at their bankers, accord ing to a custom common among merchants. On the even ing preceding the burglary Thomas Young, a clerk of the firm, before leaving the office, which he did a few minutes before seven, locked up the one iron safe of which he had the key, and the strong-room, and left the porter, George Rye, to lock up the premises. There were then in the iron safe the two cashboxes and the iron box containing dock warrants. Mr. Henry Wood, a principal clerk, had pre viously locked the boxes, and there was then in one of them seven £5 Bank of England notes, an Australian so vereign, a bad halfcrown and a bad sixpence ; in another a check for .£5 and some papers, and among the dock warrants, fifty-seven in number, in the iron box, there was a £5 bank note. On locking the strong-room, Mr. Young placed the key of it, according to custom, in a pigeon -hole in the office. The porter Geo. Rye, at eight o'clock, on leaving for the night, locked the outer door and put the k e y o f it i n hi s poc k e t . H e h a d prev i ous ly observed that the strong- room d oor was l oc k e d, an d that the key was in the Pigeon-hole. It is al r eady known how the thieves were un expected surprised, about 1 o ' c l oc k i n th e morn i ng , by the un refusiug to answer returnanoark of Mr. Mr. Moore, a solicitor who occupies chamber s i n the upper part of the house, and how, on their a lightwho and gliara on his tappi ng a t a w i n d ow w h ere he saw d ni o g o h r t b . y Thewhi which i t e h v e e y s, e on who was there, he called in the police,the house for th e rema i n d er o f th e getting into th e o ffi ces , l oc k e d th e entered on the inside, and therefore the police could not gain access to them without breaking open the door, which they did not do. On the arrival, at 8 o'clock next morning, of the porter Rye, he opened another door of which he had the key, and entered with the officers, City Sergeants Jennison and Speck. The prisoners Rowland and Bell were then found, as stated on the first examination, seated at a table in Mr. Browning's private room, drinking rum from a sample glass, and Rowland was smoking a cigar in an easy chair. The strong-room door was then open, as was also that of one of the safes ; two of the cashboxes lay on the floor broken open, and the place was strewn with papers and in general confusion. The lock of the other iron and more private safe, of which the principal partner always kept the key, had been tampered with, but the safe itself remained secure and intact. An iron instrument, having a chisel at one end and a hammer at the other, and which belonged to he premises, was found in one of the offices, and on comparing it with marks on one of the cashboxes which had been broken open, it was found to fit them ex actly. The key of the strong-room was found on a shelf in the strong-room, and the key of the iron safe which had been opened lay on the floor. The dock warrants had not been touched, but the eight £5 notes, the Australian sove reign, and the che.ck for £5 were all missing. Not so the bad halfcrown and bad sixpence, they remained in the cashbox in which they had been left on the previous evening, and the check for £5 was afterwards found with some papers in a watercloset on the premises. The Australian sovereign was found secreted in a stocking of one of the two prisoners, but they had made away with the £4O in notes, and the presumption is that they passed them to a confederate out side by the front door before Mr. Moore, the solicitor, re turned home at 1 o'clock and surprised them. The prisoner Notley, who is only 18 years of age, had been in the service of Messrs. Twiss and Browning as a porter until about 18 months ago, when he was discharged. Suspicion having at tached to him in connexion with the burglary, he was appre hended on Wednesday last, and he then admitted that he had been in the company of Rowland and Bell on the night before the burglary, that they wanted to commit it that evening, but he advised them to wait until some other night, his intention, he said, being to have nothing to do with it ; that he met them again on the following night, when they had some words, and he refused to join them in carrying it out. It may be recollected that the letter which the prisoner Rowland delivered to the girl Bridget, who lived in the upper part of the house as servant to Mr. Young, an archi tect, purported to have been written by Mary Notley, a for mer servant of Mr. Young. Yesterday Mary Notley, the woman in question, and now the wife of a cellarman, was called, and declared the letter to be a forgery, and that it was written without her knowledge or authority. She is married to a brother of the prisoner Notley. A waiter at the City Arms Tavern, in Great Tower-street, proved that he saw the prisoners Bell and Notley drinking together in the taproom there on the night before the robbery. Onthe lodgings of the prisoner Rowland, in Half Moon-place, Whitechapel, being searched by Smart, a city detective officer, two extraordinary documents were found—one containing prescriptions for killing and fascinating dogs, and the other a dietary table for convicts. Mr. Humphreys, the solicitor for the prosecution, read them as follows : " To Bill Dogs—A little liver cooked and some chloro form mixed with it. Let them eat it." (A laugh.) " A little liver cooked and some aniseed mixed with it. Let the dog smell it, and it will not bark." (Laughter.) " Convict Diet.—The following is the new scale of diet for the convicts employed on public works :—Sunday, soz of cheese, 28oz bread, 1 pint cocoa, 1 pint gruel ; Monday, soz mutton, and its own liquor, flavoured with onions— (laughter)—and thickened with any bread left from previ ous day, llb potatoes, 28oz bread, 1 pint cocoa, 1 pint gruel ; Tuesday, 1 pint soup made from 7oz shin of beef, 4oz fresh vegetables, 2oz pearlbarley flavoured with onions —(a laugh)-11b potatoes, 28oz bread, 1 pint gruel, 1 pint cocoa ; Wednesday, soz mutton same as Monday, lib pota toes, 28oz bread, 1 pint cocoa, 1 pint gruel ; Thursday, llb suet pudding, llb potatoes, 28oz bread, 1 pint cocoa, 1 pint gruel ; Friday, soz beef, 1 pint beef liquor, flavoured as on Tuesday, llb potatoes, 28oz bread, 1 pint cocoa, 1 pint gruel ; Saturday, soz beef, 1 pint beef liquor, flavoured as on Friday, llb potatoes, 28oz bread, 1 pint cocoa, 1 pint gruel. Each allowance of meat is weighed after being cooked, and must be free from bone. The potatoes me good." (Laughter.) The Lord Mayor—They appear to have been anticipa ting their fate. (A laugh.) Mr. Humphreys said at present it did not appear whether the dietary table was a thing the prisoner Rowland had himself concocted, or a copy of an authentic document. The Lord Mayor was inclined to believe it was a copy o f the dietary in vogue ; if so, it was a great deal more liberal than that in workhouses, and was almost calculated to in duce a certain class of people to commit crime. (A laugh.) It was then proved that a rough sketch on paper of the internal arrangements of the prosecutors' office had also been found at the lodgings of the prisoner Rowland. It was also proved that the key of the strong-room was kept at the time of the robbery in the same place as when the prisoner Notley was in their service. On that evidence Mr. Humphreys applied to have the prisoners committed for trial. The Lord Mayor asked if any of the eight £5 notes had been found. Mr. Humphreys replied in the negative. The prisoner Notley demanded to know upon what evi dence he was about to be committed for trial. Mr. Oke, the chief clerk, said the evidence that he knew beforehand that a felony was about to be committed and yet kept that knowledge to himself, which was a crime in law. He would be charged as an accessory before the fact. The prisoners, on being cautioned severally, reserved their defence. The Lord Mayor committed them for trial at the Central Criminal Court. The Theatrical Monopoly. At the Westminster Police Court yesterday, Mr. Alfred Henry Fowler, the nominal proprietor of the Regent Music Hall, Regent-street, Westminster, appeared to a summons charging him with performing a stage play at the said place, the same not being duly licensed for theatrical perform ances by the Lord Chamberlain. The prosecution was at the institution of the lessees of her Majesty's, Drury-lane, the Lyceum, the Haymarket, Astley's, the Adelphi, and the Olympic Theatre, who were represented by Mr. Roberts, solicitor; Mr. Draper, solicitor, appeared on behalf of the defendant. Mr. Roberts, in opening the case, stated that this was a prosecution under the 6th and 7th Victoria, cap. 68, sec. 2, which imposed a penalty 0f„.£20 per day for every perform ance. The allegation in this case was that the defandant did, on the day named, Feb. 27, perform, or cause to be performed, a burlesque entitled " Mazeppa." He would call witnesses who would ,rove the performance, and then should ask for his worship's judgment, with such a reason able penalty as he should think fit. There had been a great deal said about theatrical monopoly, and the proprietors of music-halls had raised it, but this was a penal act of parlia ment. If it was harsh the legislature had made it, and let the legislature alter it if it pleased. It was not for him to say whether it was so or not, but he appeared to prosecute under the statute. His clients were the lessees of the me tropolitan theatres. They had large sums to pay for their licenses ; they had to pay heavy fees to the Lord Cham berlain for each play, and considered that their rights were being encroached upon by persons who had no such fees to pay. He did not pretend to say that there was any thea trical monopoly, but if there was, let it be altered by all means. He had held out the olive branch to Mr. Drape; and advised him to plead guilty, as only a nominal penalty would be asked for; but the latter had declined, and hoped to succeed. He should proceed at once to prove that a play was performed, and Mr. Fowler would, if he could, prove that he had a license from the Lord Chamberlain so to do. Henry Field, 51, Cumberland-street, Pimlico, who said he was " general private inquirer," "the original private inquirer of 20 years' experience in the police," but not "the celebrated Mr. C. F. Field," gave an account ofthe:per formances ; and Mr. Charles Beach, an author, living at 51 Cumberland-street, with Field, proved accompanying Field and said his description was accurate. Mr. Wm. Bodham Donne, of No. 40, Weymouth-street, examiner of plays to the Lord Chamberlain, said he had heard the evidence of these last two witnesses, and from their statements he certainly called this a stage play. There appeared to be the plot of " Mazeppa," and whether serious or burlesque, there was, he considered, no difference in point of law. It contained the ingredients of the plot ;he had no hesitation in saying that it was a stage performance. The lady purported to be the Princess Olinska, the daugh ter of the Governor of Poland. with s stsc eeoCteninoinr.:uleoinlpgn isdats Cross-examined—lt erxe a r thanl'Li i i eta; i t is people customary a pl a t°, calla Two 0 Morning" is a dramatic performance, but it might ' e Gl performanceock b e i n p t e h r e formed in a drawing-room without scenery. In the case of a comic duet like " The Cousins, or the Music Lesson," it would be different, as there is no dramatic plot and no dramatic. illusion ; there would be no change of scene re quired either. These are the tests ; but it is difficult to udlsn d a l agaw r me dj comic tooadhmf t ha o sitesec peo g nofd o keiute c ab b t y materially yaw, constituted top a s s rl d words y:;:et althoughbe circumstances t theof ecoiautsres.e, in omightln m a p eri la t y s. ; S b h u o t u , l ‘ d ß n o o x t and Co eelt :t irrtna " ssolpta : es:lerthcshacaoeneal consider a stage play, although thererequires no change of scene. There are, however, several pieces which could be performed without risk in a place of public resort, which would be considered plays if performed in a licensed house. A change of dress would not necessarily constitute a dramatic illusion, because many a public singer changed a hat or coat, or some other modification of dress takes p lace , but as I have before stated, it is almost impossible to lay down a rule. li G ce e n rm se a , n a ßeed's that is s performanceth the ony performances of the sort licensed. as M o r . . W I r o e ti o n ni g b is er n c o h t a n r o le w s Mathews, lisealißnysoewMdrd. b Sub s senior, f n hte -1 : 31 ; r we , l3l: “ E ir s t some tille theatricalM yearsmr s e , " but it was in a licensed for every new Piece licensetheatre. f e e I i have a aboutve s een fourthe g u d i o n c le u da m s beaentydsei ffiaartc, u i o at u nf r do rt o wt ffi ho c e egiei Regent e ts notto g to o t m a s t o t hpellaLtc places o d w u h e Chamberlain rom en aes 0 had inbl determined ed t o smoke grant late:l:eh; rHE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY EVENING, MARCH 11, 186, and drink, as at music-halls. A great number had applied, and been refused on that account only. Mr. Selfe said that the sole question before him was, if this were a dramatic entertainment, and after the evidence, which was not disputed, there was not the smallest doubt that it was. Mr. Roberts had not pressed for a heavy penalty, and he should merely inflict a nominal fine, in order to ex press his opinion that it was contrary to the statute. The defendant was then convicted in the penalty of is. and costs The Saffron-Hill Murder. TO THE EDITOR OF THE TIMES. Sir,—l request you will have the goodness to in sert in the Times the enclosed extracts from police reports in contradiction of the statements made in letters signed " Henry Negretti," published in the Times newspaper, with regard to the evidence and conduct of the police in the charges against Peliz zoni and Gregorio Mogni. The paragraphs of Mr. Negretti's letters to which the police reports refer are enclosed. I am, sir, your obedient servant, RICHARD MAYNE. Metropolitan Police-office, Whitehall-place, March 10. (From the Times of Tuesday, March 7.) 'THE SAFFRON-HILL STABBING CARE. " Mr. Negretti writes of the conduct of the police in the above case:—' The police were told on the evening of the fatal occurrence by Mr. Worms, a relative of Harrington, that they had got hold of the wrong man. Mr. Worms told them that Serafino did not do it, but that Gregorio did. Mr. Worms also told them that he had known Pelizzoni for years, and that he was incapable of such a crime. The answer given by the police I will not give you, for I can hardly believe it myself. The police had Gregorio'slmife de livered up to them on the morning after the occurrence, and all the circumstances connected with it lucidly explained to them, from the giving up of the knife by Gregorio to a friend —the friend throwing it away in Bordessa's back yard—to that of the potboy of Bordessa picking it up and handing it over to.the police. The police were told that Gregorio had slapped the landlord (Mr. 13haw) in the face, which circum stance Mr. S haw stated at Gregorio'sfirst examination origi nated all the mischief that followed. The police were told that Harrington and Gregorio had a scuffle in the taproom not ten minutes before the stabbing took place. Mrs. Shaw stated at Gregorio's examination that this scuffle arose from the fact that Gregorio had slapped her husband's face, and that the police knew all about it. The police knew that Gregorio and his brother John (the latter bleeding at the neck) came back after the fight and asked for their hats out of the bagatelle-room, and that those hats were given to them by Mrs. Shaw, who fetched them from the baga telle-room, clearly showing that Gregorio and his brother John had been in that room, and not Pelizzoni only, as sworn by all the witnesses on the trial. Lastly, the police never seriously attempted to find Gregorio, for they knew that the finding of this man would result (as it did) in the exculpation of Pelizzoni, and the acquittal of Pelizzoni, after having charged him with murder, would not have been very creditable to the police. I might also observe that the above is also the reason why I preferred finding Gregorio myself in preference to employing the police in the matter." " G, OR FINSBURY DIVISION. " I beg to report having made careful inquiry in reference to the statements affecting the police, mentioned in the attached extracts from the Daily Telegraph of the 6th and the Times of the 7th inst. : "1. That a constable named Flash Charley was in the taproom at the time—l have seen persons who were in the Golden Anchor all the evening of the 20th of December last, and they positively assert that no. constable was there until the disturbance took place. There is a police-constable named Richard Fawell, known to the thieves as " Flash Charley," and he was on duty in the neighbourhood that evening in plain clothes. "2. That the police were told by Mr. Worms on the evening of the fatal occurrence that they had got hold of the wrong man—Mr. Worms knew nothing of the occur rence with the exception of hearsay, having been at Kings land at the time it took place, and he now informs me that he has no recollection of speaking to the police on that evening. " 3. That the police received Gregorio's knife on the morning after the occurrence.—One knife was brought to Clerkenwell police station and given to Inspector Potter on the evening after the murder, which was found close to the Golden Anchor public-house ; and another knife was given on the same evening to Inspector Potter by a potman at the Three Tuns public-house, Cross-street, Saffron-hill, which he stated he found in the urinal. Both these knives were produced at the examination of Pelizzoni before the magistrates, also at his trial. Neither of these knives had been identified, and Inspector Potter could not trace the owners. "4. That the police were told that Gregorio had slapped the landlord's face, which had originated all the mischief. —At the first examination of Pelizzoni Mr. Shaw, the landlord of the Golden Anchor, statsd in his evidence and at the trial that an Italian named Gregorio struck him in the face, which no doubt was the origin of the affray. "5. That the police were told that Gregorio and Har rington had had a scuffle in the taproom not 10 minutes be fore the stabbing.—This statement is untrue; the police had no knowledge that any scuffle took place between Gregorio and the deceased Harringion. "6. That the police knew that Gregorio and his brother John (the latter bleeding at the neck) came back after the fight and asked for their hats out of the bagatelle-room, and that their hats were given to them by Mrs. Shaw. —It was not known to the police that any hats were found in the bagatelle-room. Inspector Potter knew that the deceased Harrington, and Rebbeck who was stabbed, had lost their hats, and which have never been recovered. " Mrs. Shaw was present at the trial of Pelizzoni, but the counsel for the prosecution did not think it necessary to call her. 4 7. That the police never seriously attempted to find Gregorio.—After the prisoner Pelizzoni was charged and identified by Harrington and Rebbeck as the man who had stabbed them, Inspector Potter and Police-constable Fa well, 425 A, were specially employed to find Gregorio and two others, evidence having been given at the examination before A. A. Knox, Esq., the magistrate, that they were concerned in the affray, and the inspector used every exer tion to trace Gregorio, but the Italians would give no in formation. I beg to state that the names and addresses of 15 wit nesses who were examined on the trial of Pelizzoni were sent to Mr. Negretti, so that they might also be examinedat the trial of GI egorio, but none of these, except Mrs. King and Alfred Rebbeck, were called, although four eye-wit nesses could have sworn that Gregorio was not in the room at the time Harrington was stabbed. "A. GERNON, Superintendent. " Clerkenwell Police-station, G Division Metropolitan Police, 10 o'clock a.m., March 8, 1865." 'EXTRACT OF A LETTER IN Tics Times OF MARCH 9, 1865, SIGNED, 11Y. NEGRETTI,' 1, HATTON-GARDEN. " I will now answer Mr. Baddeley's other question as to the dying man's deposition—that solemn mockery enacted by Mr. Inspector Potter. I almost wish Mr. Baddeley had abstained from asking about it. " Pelizzoni, an Italian with strongly marked Italian countenance, wearing a moustache, and dressed in the pecu liar garb that Italian workmen adopt, was placed nearest the dying man, along with a number of Englishmen (police men in private clothes, I hear), none of whom wore a mous tache. I ask Mr. Baddeley to put all prejudice on one side, and tell me what he thinks of this mode of obtaining a dying man's statement ? Does he not think it a disgrace to humanity ? I will not say anything as to the man being under the influence of opium at the time, for we have In spector Potter's own statement that he roused him with great difficulty." "METROPOLITAN POLICE. " (G Division.—Special Report.) "March 10. "I beg to report that on the 26th of December, 1864, In spector Potter conveyed Pelizzoni in a cab to St. Bartholo mew's Hospital, where he was placed among a dozen men round the bed of the deceased man Harrington. Three of the men were strangers from the streets, whom the inspec tor asked to accompany him to the bedside of Harrington ; only one was a constable, in plain clothes; the remainder patients in the hospital. The dress worn by them all was that of mechanics. Pelizzoni was dressed in a similar manner, and no peculiarity to distinguish him from the others. Two surgeons were present all the time, and stated that Harrington was perfectly sensible. Three of the persons present at the identification wore moustaches. Pelizzoni was personally known both to Rebbeck and Har rington, and before Rebbeck saw Pelizzoni ho stated that it was he who stabbed him. " A. GERNON, Superintendent." BREAKFAST BEVERAGE.—Homo39pathic practitioners, and the medig.al profession generally, recommend cocas as being the most healthful of all beverages. When the doc trine of homoeopathy was first introduced into this country there were to be obt ,ined no preparations of cocoa either at tractive to the taste or acceptable to the stomach ; the nut was either supplied in the crude state, or so unskilfully manufactured as to obtain little notice. J. Epps, of London, Homoeopathic Chemist, was induced in the ye.tr 1839 to turn his attention to thi s su bj ec t , an d a t lenth succeeded, with the assistance of el a b ora t e mac hi ner y, in being the first to produce an arti c l e pure i n i ts compos iti on , and so refined by the perfect t; it uratlon it receives in the process it passes through, as to be most acceptable to the delicate stomach. For general use Epps's Cocoa is distinguished as an invigo rating, grateful b reakfast b everage, possess i ng a mos t deli cious aroma. D r . H assall, in his wor k , "F oo d and it s Adulteratio:. s," says -"C ocoa conta i ns a grea t variety of im portant nutritive pri nc i p l es—every i ngre die u t necessary t o the growth and s us t enance of the body. " A ga i n: "A s a nutritive, cocoa stands very much higher than either coffee or tea." Directions—Two teaspoonfuls of the powder in a breakfast cup, filled up with bolting water or milk. Secured la tin-lined lib., ;lb., and 11b. l a b e lled packets, and sold b y all grocers, toniectio ners , an d chem i s t s. - [Aim.] RAILWAY INTELLIGENCE. GLASGOW AND SOUTH-WESTERN. The half-yearly meeting of this company was held on Wednesday at Glasgow—Mr. J. Lumsden in the chair. The Secretary having read the notice convening the meeting, the report was taken as read. The CHAIRMAN congratulated the shareholders on the continued prosperity of the company, which had enabled the directors to increase the dividend by Its. per cent. per annum as compared with the cor responding half of the preceding year. (Hear) The rolling stock had been increased, and the renewal of the permanent way had been carried on with great activity during the pasthalf -year, and a greater length of line had been renewed than was contem templated, involving a considerable increase of ex penditure. The directors, after mature deliberation, had come to the resolution of charging, irrespective of the actual outly on the renewal of the way in each half-year, a sum of £lO,OOO to the revenue. This course, without pressing too heavily on any half-year, would enable the directors to proceed with greater rapidity in the renewal of the whole line. The company's additional powers Bill was promoted for the purpose of constructing railways and works at various parts of their system, the most extensive being a branch from Dairy to Largs, which would afford an access long needed, both for passengers and minerals, to that district. Besides the bills directly promoted by the company there was one in which they took a deep interest for con necting their system with the increasing port of Greenock. It would open up the Ayrshire mineral fields and become a remunerative feeder. Powers were inserted in the bill authorizing the company to work the new line when completed, and to contri bute funds towards its construction. There were other bills in Parliament affecting the interests of the company that it would be necessary for the di rectors to oppose. He concluded by moving the adoption of the report. Mt. RONALDSON seconded the motion, and it was unanimously agreed to. A dividend at the rate of 51- per cent. per annum was declared on the ordinary stock of the company for the past half-year, the retiring directors were re-elected, and also the retiring auditor. The proceedings then terminated. LONDON, BUCKS, AND EAST GLOCES- TERSHIRE. In the account of the proceedings of the Select Committee on Standing Orders which appeared in The Sun of Thursday it was stated that the standing orders ought not to be dispensed with in the case of the above company's bill, whereas the decision re lated to a petition from a landowner against the bill, which had passed standing orders in both houses. ILLINOIS CENTRAL. The financial statement of this company for the month January last showed that 26,663 acres of land were sold during the month for $341,146. The cash collected in January amounted to $275,761. In the railway traffic department the receipts for the month amounted to $546,410, against $327,900 for the same month in 1864, showing an increase of $218,510. Railway Traffic Returns for the Week, Riles °puled. Receipts. Railways. ~.—A—___..„—..........._, 1864. 1863. 1864. 1863. £ £ Belfast and N. Counties 136 136 1.988 1.188 Belfast and County Down 49 49 697 600 Blyth and Tyne 2B 28 2,094 1,579 Bristol and Exeter l2ll 121 i 5,6:9 5,196 Caledonian 2Bl} .6.21 18 661 16,951 Cambrian 9l St 1,736 1,118 Cork and Bandon 2O 20 35s 424 Cork, Illackrock, & Passage 6/ 6/ 123 111 Cork and Youghal Cornwall 654 651 1,538 1.321 Deeside , 17 17 243 ,0, Dublin & Belfast Junction.... 63 63 1,272 1. :12 Dublin and Drogheda 75 75 1,434 1,417 Dublin and Meath Dub. & Wicklow and Wextd • 911 911 2,7.8 2.4Z3 Furness, &c 5O 5) 3,052 3,099 Glasgow & South-Western Gt. Eastern,Nrfk.,StE.Union Great Northern 404 165 33,121 31,343 Great North of Scotland 9l 99 1,814 2.377 lit. Nortb.n. & Westn. (Irel.) 7ll 711 524 476 qt.Southn. & Westn.arind.) 3871 8%3} 7, 30 6,87 i Great Western 1225 118 4 63,477 55,401 Inverness & Aberdeen June ll7l 1171 870 9.7 Inverness & Perth Junction 1191 1191 1,035 1,03 Irish North-Western 145 195 1,5:0 1,456 Kent Coast 27 27 500 275 Lancashire& Yorkshife 4.3 402 35.927 25,250 Limerick and Ennis... 241 241 113 173 Limerick and Foynes 2 l ,} 201 146 1 1 Llanelly 464 464 579 656 Llynvi Valley London & North-Western Loudon and lllackwall 54 54 1,737 1,113 London & South-Western Lond. Brighton, &S. Coast 267} 2011 15,08) 14,210 London, Chatham, & Dover 724 'i24 4,119 4,033 Do. Metropolitan Extension 11} 104 1,7J0 875 Lon., Tilbury, & Southend dlan.,Shellield.& Lineolnsh Manch. S.J un.& Altrincham 94 94 1,281 /,1t.4 Ilaryport and Carlisle M etropo li tan Midland (in& N.-Western) 663} 611 46,256 43.828 'alidland Gt.Westn. of hind 262 259} 4. 48 4,72 ) nonkland 7ll 714 1,5 .7 1,597 Monmouthsh. Rail & Canal 44 44 2, 26 2,575 North British, Edin., Perth and Dundee N-Eastern and Stock. & Darl 1099 1095 51,260 62,448 North London 9 9 3,401 3,107 North Staffordshire 254 251 7,929 8.336 Ithymney l9i 19} 1,035 825 Scottish Central Scottish North-Eastern ' 138 138 5,340 4,81 7 Somerset and Dorset 66 60 7 6 607 South Devon South-Eastern 3OB 305 17,910 16,534 Taff Vale 67 67 6,041 5,462 Ulster Vale of Clwyd. Vale of Neath 43} 434 2,753 2,177 Waterford and Kilkenny 3l 31 331 301 Waterford and Limerick 77 77 1,266 1,125 West Cornwall 27} 27} 709 744 W.Hartlepoolllarbr.&ltail s2} 52} 4,08 i 3,9 4 W'haven,Cleator,& Egrmnt lO 10 569 754 Whitehaven Junction l3 13 825 1,001 Whitehaven &le urnes s Jun 35 35 7.9 va s FOREIGN AND COLONIAL. Austrian B2B 823 29,154 29,071 Bahia and San Francisco 76k 76/ 575 719 Belgian Eastern J unction 261 ' 261 303 348 Bombay, Baroda, & Len. India 185 i 1855 '4, 33 3,255 Central Italy lB3 167 3,619 3,5.8 Detroit and Milwaukie lB9 185 4,746 4,48 t Dutch Rhenish lOBl 1(8J 4,261 4,148 Eastern of France 1176 1428 56,155 50, 79 Eastern Bengal ... ... 110 110 .1.9 4 1,592 East _ Indian ........ ..._ Grand Trunk of Canada 137 - 1335 Great Central of Belgium 295 272 E,731 4.886 Great Indian Peninsula sa3 553 20,921 9,370 Great Luxembourg 134 134 4,374 4.119 Great Southern of India Great Western of Canada 345 3!5 4,718 12,913 Madras. Madrid, Saragossa &Alicant 6BO 650 18,3 i 9 21,850 Northern of Canada ... Northern of France 697 697 51,420 47,513 Norwegian Trunk Ottoman .. 4B} 481 501 380 _ ._ - _ - Paris, Lyons, & Mediterrn 1967 1780 115,9C4 109,022 Paris and Orleans 1616 1614 63,160 58.905 Pernambuco 774 771 872 769 Scinde. Do. Punjab, &c 3O 32 227 ' 242 South Austrian, &c ...... tiouthern of France 823 770 25,494 24,15 S Viotoria Welland .... W.& N- Weatn of France.... 104 f 937 37,77 - 9 37,989 Charge of Murder on the High Seas. SOUTHAMPTON, Friday. A young able-bodied seaman, named James Hen nessy, was this day brought before Mr. J. Benlard, Admiral Tinling, and Colonel Tryon, borough magistrates, charged with the wilful murder of Louis Galla, a Frenchman, on the high seas. From the statements of two of the crew it appeared that the prisoner and the deceased were both seamen on board the English vessel Isabella Ridley, belonging to Messrs. Ridley and Sons, of Liverpool. It was bound from Havre to Pernambuco, and about ten days after its arrival at the latter place, at five o'clock in the afternoon, the prisoner was seen to come from the port side of the vessel with a knifein his hand. He inquired where Louis, the Frenchman, was, and the deceased shortly after appeared on the hatchway, when the prisoner, with an oath, deliberately stabbed him in the left side near the heart. The wounded man exclaimed, " Oh, my God !I am stabbed—l want a doctor." Several of the crew took him ashore in a boat, and conveyed him to a Portuguese doctor, who refused to have anything to do with him, and ordered the men to take him out of the shop. The deceased was then taken to the house of another fo reign doctor, who promptly stanched the wound, and directed the immediate removal of deceased to the hospital, where he died, it was believed, the fol lowing morning. The prisoner was secured and taken before the British Consul at Pernambuco, and the facts of the case having been deposed to in the usual manner, the accused was ordered to be removed to this country for trial. There appeared to have been no particular animosity existing between the prisoner and deceased. The only thing that bore the least semblance to a quarrel occurred on the passage out, when the prisoner requested a little French boy to take his two hours' watch. The boy, who could steer very well, had already been four hours at the helm, and the deceased objected to his being thus imposed upon. The prisoner did not appear to like this inter ference, 'and he struck the boy, and some rather high words then passed between him and deceased. The accused was then remanded till to-morrow (Satur day) for the production of the depositions taken be fore the British Consul at Pernambuco. SPIRIT OF THE PUBLIC JOURNALS TIMES.—On the 22d of February the Federals completed their series of successes against the sea port towns of their adversaries by the capture of Wilmington. This place, which before secession was only a third-rate port, having little foreign com merce, and hardly known in Europe, has for the last two or three years been the point to which the hopes of the Confederates and the speculations of English traders havebeen principally directed. After the entrance to Charleston was closed it was to Wil mington that the enterprise of the blockade-runners was chiefly directed, and between the swampy banks of Cape Fear River glided some of the fastest craft which the spirit of gain or adventure ever sent forth from these shores. This trade is now at an end, for not only has Fort Fisher fallen, but the town itself has, like Charleston, been evacuated by the Confederates. General Scofield, at the head of 8,000 men, was the Federal leader on this occasion. His base of operations was Smith ville, at the mouth of the river on its western bank. Between this place and Wilmington extends a deso late region of swamps for nearly 20 miles. In the midst of this was placed Fort Anderson, strongly fortified, and almost inaccessible on account of the nature of the ground. His advance might have been stayed by this obstacle, had it not been for the efficient assistance given him by the fleet. Although the wind and tide prevented more than four vessels from joining in the engagement the fort was unable to return the fire efficiently, and " was briskly quieted down." The combat was renewed the next morning by the whole of Admiral Porter's fleet, and by 3 o'clock in the day the Confederate batteries were silenced. Before daybreak on the 19th the place was evacuated. The Confederate guns were probably of no very great power, but such as they were their shot was successfully repelled by the fleet. The Confederate shot, it is said, made no impression on the Monitor, although but a third of a mile from the fort, while "the southern face of the fort was badly disfigured." The capture of Wilmington is not only important in itself, as putting an end to the foreign supplies on which the Confederacy relied, but it is likely to be attended with considerable advantage to the Federals. The forces of both Generals are now left at liberty to join the main armies of their respec tive Commanders-in-Chief in Virginia ; but that of Scofield is the larger, and by his conquest he not only becomes free himself, but enables Gen. Sherman to operate with greater safety. This successful com mander was supposed to meditate another march which would eclipse those by which he captured Sa vannah and produced the evacuation of Charleston. The last accounts represent him as being at Wins borough, 30 miles north of Columbia, in the State of South Carolina, and state that Beauregard was re treating before him. His movements are for the time enveloped in secrecy, as the Richmond papers are forbidden to publish anything relative to the two armies; but it can scarcely be doubted that he was meditating a march into North Carolina, in order to cut Gen. Lee's communications with the South, if he did not indeed purpose to cross the State entirely, and join Gen. Grant in a final attack on the Con federate capital. This distance would not be greater than he has marched already through the enemy's country since he made his first movement towards Atlanta. The chances of the North Carolinians being able to resist him successfully are but small. It be comes more evident with each succeeding operation that the Confederates, though still energetic in their resistance, are exhausted of the first necessary of war, a supply of men. The main army of Gen. Lee, though terribly outnumbered, has been hitherto maintained in discipline and courage by the genius of its com mander. The men have been among the best of their respective States, who eagerly sought the op portunity of fighting under a popular chief in defence of the principal city of the Confederacy. The repeated victories which they have gained over the invading armies of the North have given them a confidence which even in this hour of general de pression may enable them to gain further advan tages. But the spirit which animates them, the discip line which strengthens them, the genius which directs them, are not to be found in the other armies of the South. Tne Georgians and Carolinians are, in com parison with the veterans of Lee, a mere militia ; they have never received the care which has been bestowed on the army which defends Richmond, and they are probably very deficient in supplies. Everything indicates that General Beauregard, or whoever is in command of the Southern army in South Carolina, will be unable to offer a successful resistance to the march of Sherman. If, then, the latter decides upon crossing North Carolina the capture of Wilmington may prove of the highest importance to him. In the hands of the Federals it may be made a basis for military operations in the State, a place of retreat in case of any unforeseen check. In a short time we shall learn the course which General Sherman has taken, but we cannot doubt that his aim will be to assist General Grant either by a, march towards Virginia, or by opera tions which will draw off a part of the Confederate armies. It was expected that President Lincoln would take occasion, on the commencement of his second term of office, to utter some conciliatory ex pressions with regard to the South. The temper of the Confederates and their disposition to listen to new overtures are not easy to determine. At Rich mond, and wherever the influence of the Government and of the main army is paramount, nothing is to be met with but defiance ; and it is wonderful how stubbornly the Confederates still maintain their policy and declare that they will have independence or continued war. But at a distance from the seat of Government and Congress, in districts where the confidence imparted by a strong and constantly vic torious army does not exist, there may be a very dif ferent feeling. How far this may be worked upon by the Federal Government will be disclosed probably within the next few months. Even though the army of Gen. Lee may be able to maintain its posi tion, the successes of Gen. Sherman will enable President Lincoln to make the most of any disaffec tion which may exist in the States "south of Virginia. Should the Confederate Government remain firm, should there be no renewal of the conference of Hampton Roads, the Northern Government will probably endeavour to draw back the States singly to its authority by negotiations with each one sepa rately. The success of any such attempt must mainly depend on the conditi ons w hi c h P resident Lincoln is willing to make with th ose w h o acknowledge his authority. Should any great military advantage be gained in Virginia the Confederate Government may perhaps be less fir m i n purpose, b ut i f General Lee maintain his position the political action of the Northern President will probably be directed t o th e Legislatures and people of the individual States, and to these he may show himself more conciliatory than to the Cabinet and Congress of Richmond, HERALD.—The p rec i se re l at i onsh i p which should exist between a colony an d th e mot h er country h as at all times been a m a tt er very difficult to be deter mined ; but the difficulty becomes much enhanced when, through the force of circumstances, the colony becomes a source of weakness rather than of strength to the State which ha s ca lled it i n t o ex i s t ence . N ow, that is the precise position in which New Zealand stands, and, for th a t ma tt er, h as a l ways s t oo d , to Great Britain. We h ave never sens ibl y b ene fit e d b y that distant dependency except so far as it has served as an inducement to draw from our shores a portion of the surplus of our population; whilst, on the other hand, we have contributed in no small degree to secure for our coloni s t s th e p os iti on th ey h ave soug ht to maintain in the midst of a hostile race. Without stoppingto inquire into the truth of statements made last evening by Mr. Cardwell in the House of Com mons, to the effect that colonisation does not of ne cessity mean disposse ss i on , it i s unques ti ona bl e th a t it does imply a certain amount of jealousy, if not of absolute enmity, on the part of the original in habitants towards those who, whether they will or not, resolve on settling amongst them. It may be, although it very rarely happens, that the two races admit of amalgamation ; but, whether this be so or not, the sole owner of property invariably regards with repugnance him who (viewing the matter in its most favourable light) insists on the enjoyment of equal rights. This antagonism, then, being inevitable, the question arises how far a State is bound to afford to its colonists material assistance in maintaining a struggle which, by their own enter prise, and possibly cupidity, they have forced upon themselves. A political economist would solve the problem by the simple test of utility, and would have no hesitation in saying that unless some present or prospective advantage furnished a ground for intervention, the colonists should be left to their own resources. But it is not possible for States to regard these questions from a purely utilarian point of view ; and as between individuals there are obligations which, though resting on a purely moral sanction, are equally binding with those imposed by law, so there are dutie s i m p ose d upon commun i t i es ' whose obligatory force it would be difficult to de monstrate, but which, nevertheless, it would be im possible for them to ignore. A country is, to borrow an ordinary expression, expected to " stand by" its colonists, just as a parent ought to protect his children ; and the worthlessness of the one any more than that of the other affords no justification for the neglect of this duty. To the broad question propounded last evening—whether we ought to throw on our colonists in New Zealand the sole re sponsibility and onus of establishing as best they can their position in that country—there can, there fore, be but one answer . B u t, a lth oug h admitting our obligation to p ro t ec t o ur colonists, it is needless to add that on th e l a tt er i s i m p ose d the correlative duty of meriting it, and of doing as much as lies in their power to protect themselves. About eighteen months ago we were startled by the disagreeable in telligence that, in spite of all our endeavours to place the New Zealand native and the English colonist 011 the same footing, a rebellion had broken out, and we were compelled to vindicate our supremacy by force of arms. Into the circumstances which ga ve rise to that revolt it is not necessary now to enter ; it will suffice to say that they were far from c redit : able to the colonists. The insurrection i s not yo suppressed, and some persons affect to doubt whether years must not elapse before peace will be reston Under these circumstances, it has been ntooveu whether it is not the duty of the Government, t° have recourse to extreme measures, and to ereplo all its strength to reduce to subjection, if 11°t all exterminate, a race which our colonists have to e appearances found it impossible to live on araia,D l ie terms. If, it is argued, there exists an irreeoncilr antagonism between the white man and the nat've' the latter should gi v e w ay. The New Zealander, as Mr. Roebuck observed, seeks to retain in a ll their primitive solitude the hunting grounds of Ilis„ 8 4: 1 cestors ; the colonist seeks to utilise them. '-"" e sation and progress go hand in hand, and therefOtrb the colonist should be allowed to push his NvaY vvl , 4 the all the means at his command, and his succe though purchased by the annihilation of the n ativ t e h ' s should be accounted as a victory achieved r cause of civilisation. This conclusion is, howev e ' by no means so obvious as some would have it a .P: pear. The Maories stand pre-eminently w di st .:h guished among the many barbarous races en which, in our character as colonists, w e have be 3 brought in contact, and Mr. Cardwell r d % es s generous tribute to the qualities which they P° s " re and have on all occasions exhibited but Dr especially in the course of the recent insurreetl.°o. 00 1 If not to be members of any recognised Pol i l i s l ev i community is to be barbarians, then the 0 Zealanders are so ; but if to be chivalrous , h ra t j; generous to a captive foe, keenly sensible of hat difference between right and wrong, betwe en .,, w d is honourable and what is base, is to be ci viloe then they are entitled to take their place anit the nations of the world. There never was, f o r Cardwell observed, a more fitting opportunlv 10f effecting a union between an aboriginal and a e? nising race than that afforded in the settlement' vs New Zealand, and never would a Government ht t more justly exposed itself to opprobrium than 7 r . of this country if it had not attempted to a ec ;i e vt plish that end. The grant of a constitution to 40 Zealand, and the recognition of the political rig of the native race, was a wise as well as a Il lira i l e h measure, and, if the fruits have not been those "c" - to were anticipated, the fault is attributable neith er to the Government which devised the scheme, 11°1. 10 .. those who were intended to benefit by it. Thetelcieg nists treated with disdain the notion of p 1. ,. equality, and the natives were not sufficient l y iva 1 1 13 barous to feel indifferent about being ign° • re short time arose a collision between'the two m the spect to territorial rights. The colonists assur ue d power of adjudicating in their own cause , ajj + , o olls insurrection was the consequence. We sent .1. a? to their assistance; but are we to do so a l levt The home Government reply, No. There are be. Zealand all the materials for an amalga,matiolltary tween the races ; and if, as the Colonial secretapd pointed out, we give the colonists to undFrisi t he that they must make their own terms w iv natives, and not rely on us to assist in externain‘ater them, they will not improbably act with gr`ooo- prudence for the future, and avoid exciting this flicts the issue of which may be doubtful. 1 1,.. 1 w iD4 view, the Government intend gradually withcu3sal 0f the troops which have been placed at the disP ° t the the colonists, and by this means it is hoped til3 self settlers will be taught the great lesson °f reliance, and in time initiated in the first pi , — of self-government. COUNTRY MARKETS LIVERPOOL.—FRIDAY. With a moderate attendance of millers and deal ers " corn exchange this morning, wheat has rule d staA too previous rates, and had sellers of fine America n re do g ot disposed to make a slight reduction, they migh t on pretty freely. Flour is still difficult to move, an'i,,clian, are somewhat irregular, especially for French; „gnat' corn 3d per qr. better on the week. Oats ann„;ir firm. Beans, peas, and barley scarcely maintain "--d con' extreme value. Market closes steady. Clove tinues to advance. LINCOLN.—FRIDAY. 86s10 386 , re di r 36 iA ° — New white wheat, 38s to 44s ; new red, stone. Barley for malting, 32s to 34s per qr' PIN t 27s to 31s per 30 stone. Oats, 22s to 255. 1341411°' 42s per qr. DERBY—FRIDAY. n Per S G New white wheat, 428 to 44s ; new red,:37s 4vs4,' stone. Barley for malting, 31s to 340 per qr. ;old r 250 „t t) 28s to 30s per 30 stone. Oats, new, 23s to 255; „;.; t o 3" 27s per 24 stone. Beans, old, 42s to 45s ;I new, 01 ' per qr. WAKEFILD.—FurnAY. JO!. Wheat trade quiet, but last week's prices stea.- -;1 , 130,- tained. Less barley on offer; prices unaltered. and oats rather dearer. The following are the averages for the wee k , e 7 1 - March 6 :—Wheat, 2,846 qrs., at 39s 51d; qrs., at 28s ; oats, 20 qrs., at his Od ; beans, at s Od ; peas, qrs., at —s Od. S T AMF ORD.—FRIDAY. r 36 New white wheat, 41s to 435; new red, 36s to 39130 e. stone. Barley, malting, 31s to 33s ; griOing, 26 , 3 4 otorl per qr. Oats, new, 18s to 23s ; old, 25s to 28s p er Beans 38s to 40s per 38 stone. Peas as heretofore. BRISTOL SUGAR.—FitiDAV• descrir A fair business has been done this week in m ost awe d. tions of raw and refined sugar; prices rema in-• 1110Wer. Rum—the demand is slow, and prices id per ga COAL MARKET. Price per ton at the close of the market. s. 0 1 8 0 Hough .......... 5 South Kelloo ......... . 19 0 Kelloe .. . .............. 0 Hartlepool ............ 7 Tunstall .. . ........ Birchgrove Graigol Walls End 8YT,9 4 11 10 ' 3 ; 1 0 West Riding 11'" s. d. Davison's W. Hartley 15 0 Hastings Hartley l4 6 Cowpen Hartley Carway andPuffryn Malting 22 0 South Hetton Walls End Haswell.— 19 9 West Lambton l7 9 Walls End Harton Ships at mark :t, 80 ; sold, 51• Foreign Mail Packet LioL Australia and New Zealand, via Southampt on ...... ry"s"; Ditto, via Marseilles .......................... I,47prt Brazil and Cape Vera, by British pact.et ........ *far. 21 Ditto, by British packet .......... l. Cape of Good Hope, Ascension, and St. Ifelena•7 . It or China, Penang, and Singapore, via S o whamPto la ' • igio• 1 .... Ditto, via Marseilles ... Falkland Islands ................................. 4 Gibraltar, via Southampton .......... . ........... ;pr. India (Calcutta), and Ceylon, via SouthamPt 4n ' Ditto, via Maneilles . . 8 , India (Bombay), via Southampton.. ............... .311 1 " 4 4, Ditto, via g arseilles ..... .... . . .......... ••••).or. Mauritius, via Southampton ............ • ....... „gar' 0. Ditto, via Marseir e 3 ......................... 3 10% ith Newfoundland . . ........ . y Portugal Ditto, by private ship to Lisbon.. ............. _, 5, United States and British North America, bl l3l4- its" 1 tish packet ••• ......... Ditto. by United. States packet, via Southa llir ton ...... •••• f ...... '. i , Ditto, via Cork . .... . 1 ,40. 3, . Ditto, by Canadian packet, via Londonderri . gsr• 1 West Coast of Africa, Madeira, and Teneriffe ..... i g, West Indies and Paci fi c (except Bahamas, en"—.011%.6, ... and Mexico ............... ...... .............. Aptl+ 6. Bahamas, via New York. ........................... silk i i i, Bermuda, ditto ............ MO " Cuba and Mexico ... •••••••••=mmen.................. . Oleo , sti MB. RUMBLE.—We understand that h.wv . • Queue d ofoo who was recently tried in the Count - t Act, t o Bench for a breach of the Foreign Enlistnis ll y I#oo acquitted by the jury, has been put upon 1191 tt rot. .biti Government. He was inspector of machinerf o wing t ° de order placing him upon hall-pay states th 3 f l n loabf et complicity in the Rappahannock affair, h e is /1" serving of the confidende of the Government' it e Births. 1111. S IlerD° BARRY.—On the Bth inst. , at Blsize-par k ' Ber ke;i Barry, of a daughter. s t r ee , _ 01 lIENEAGE.-011 the 9th inst., at 39, CharleS - .0 00)4 ley-square, Lady Eleanor Heneag©, of a lighte r c lol h ' born. i f _ , of ti 311.5. RADSTOCK.—On the 9th inst., Lady R o ,dstoc•- lii. , i . ter. WESTON.—On the 10th inst a t Clapham -0 o--, 131131 '7 Weston, of a son. fil ,,,,lteo lli- ; ItA mj T o. m h : 3 : 3l — ofa V tTh E rue x r, dis ro ,Es.—On the 9th inst., ar k l . o - / 05 1)1 01 Mary, only daug c h sg t o e ni r Ml w o 4 f a a th rr t " l i e K la i g n t e g e s: f3 ue ) li v. g j srae : 0. :; is ::, PuGn—JoNEs.—On the 9th • t at St gar 9,5,1 tl,.o°fit square, William, second inst. at of the late P ° " er oti" Esq., Helygog, near Dolgvlley, to gare r i , z etl llei• daughter of the late Robert Jones, Es+ , -11°- ` e Deaths. $O lll eO, Anel Bincir.—On the 10th inst., at 2, Thurloe lagiitl,"' Bout s a t g e ceernd,sington, Abel Birch, Esq., formerly a icso veow CABS.. — O n 6 8 5 th . inst., at Brighton, J°/Irl Dec H. A LI mcEß a Agri roumEdmi I. ET —1813713_ :o6s.i t . . Richardr.o. n 0 jniitmhees9Bthourienhsti.e,r,aEt sßqr„ooakger # .c e ' ssr, yok , the 9th inst., at East Sara, ri:::: 1 ' .. 31 c : 1 :::: 0 0, HELy.— On the 9th inst., at 12, F i e' Esq.,on tJhoeh,nthOhin.almst.e7rsa,tETsqu.n, baigidedgeB:w.cu,,,sl. 3. De i ty voterf°'" agedAtße 7 e 6 l;field, near Cappoquin, eeun Pierce Hely, Esq., J.P. and D.L., aged 76. .1 34 1. 6 --- London: Printed and Published byiVILLIA3,,I; oe, an" 1 4° ,; to; of No. 112, Strand, Pilnter , a t Tits Surf vue Strand, in the Precinct- of the SavoY, Middlesex,— fttitrday, March 11, 1805. JI ', J. hs ittZb ()) heti' trjehp