The Sun. — London, England, 1816-09-11 00:00:00

POLICE OF THE METROPOLIS. TEraminaiianof. .T. B.BnAuraoNT,Esq.continued. PUBLIC-HOUSES. Do yon , think that the vice of drunkenness is comiderAly increased ?—1 think that, by the pm fusion of new gin-shops which have been lately set up, drinking of the in(r ! t pernicions kind his agely increased within these few years, and tb,t ti l e low tippling houses which have been newly l:c.mseil are expressly calculated to promote the view of lima drinking; whether, Upon the whole, there is now more intoxicaqoA,among the lower orders than formerly, I cannot Say. ' TLat it has diminiblied ?—Speaking of the lowest orders, I do not think it has, either one or the other ; among the middling orders I think it has diminished, 'Do you not think the existence oldie gin-shops whe:e spirits are sold, and where a beer licence is merely nominal, one of the great causes to - which is to be attribtited the inerease,of inebriety, supposing it to exist ?-:—lNlest certainly I do, per. taps the greatest: Have you ever been present when the licences were given by the Magistrates at their Petty Ses sions 1-1 have. In wheit district ?—in the Tower Hamlets any in Kensington Division. Vas there a‘gt eat facility shown by the Magis trates to granting those licences, or,did theymake a vigilant examination into the claims of the new .candidatem, as well asinto the conduct of those . who applied for a renewal of their licences think not in either district, as regards the claims of new candidates. - . Can you state to the Counnittee any particular . coe or cases ill- which such negligence on the part of the magistrates appeared,to you can state several ;- I will state otte,',of which I have intimate knowleiLte. I have considerable free• bold and copyhold estates in the neighbourhood! gtit . Stepney, upon which J have lately built, and em t sed othets to build, pear 100 houses, -besides two large maimfactories. Parr of niv land' Ivin4 between the Mile-end-road aufliAteporv , rhurdi h planned into streets capableld containing about , 500 houses. White-horse-lane, a great thorou, : :u. fare; pdssing through these streets, is without any . p u blic-h,, u s e in or near to it, although there are !nor- ti an 350 new 'and inhabited honses in atAl by, the line,' which is about three furlongs in length. 'At. the pressing desire of my tenants, , and misled into a belief that my extent of houses would entitle my tenant to alicense as,a matter .of I,eov , eruihree.kinti toto. years . s.incie I or ?tiered a public-house to be built midway on this line, to rupply t.leol'emonable wants of the 1)01)014).0. While t was bluing it built, I wns, ehpH<cl- to by several persons, the tfictills tatents - of Mefi4rs. liantniry. the brewers, and INlest.rs. "7jtablei and Williams, the spirit-deallrrS. .NVi l o are 2ile.osts. Stablvs 'and Williams I—Thev ere both near relations of Sir Daniel Williams; I have neard Sirpatiiel speak of Alt'. Stables es his • pc'pbeiv., • - Is Mr. IVilliams Isii - reiation toe ?—I have al. Avais understood so. ' • • - low long have they set up the, spirit trade . . • About 'fi‘e or six years since. 1 was asked . to en ter into an engagement with Messrs. Stables . and 'Williams, for the supply of the - house ; • int ine,. that if Tcomplied, my house would he int niediately licensed,!bot not otherwise. Conceiv ing that the wants of the neighboorhood, and my own property there,. must ensurea4lectise for the house without such coodition, , andAmiug desirous that the house should .be a freediouse, 1 rejoined all these applications, But :when the licensing day arrived, in 1813, the bonse , was.ciat even no. ticed. I Mien Shut up the house for year, toga the licensinr, in 1814. It was again re fused.. I shut it up another .yser„, and. applied again in 1815, but with. tuokett i er success. My house still remains unlicensed ; H and-from fur+ the applications that have been wade-to me,,and from facts that have come within my own know ledge, independeot of general notoriety, , am rersoalled,,that the house trill not We licensed, unless I comply with the condition, or, previously selling, it, or 'erring it for a term, and much unthir valoe, to Messrs. Hatibury, or use other excep tronable menus. In illustration of what I have here asserted, 1 name two instances, - one of either kind, from among many that may he ad. ' duced and prOved. In 1813, Mr. Humphreys, now a publican near Stepney, applied to me, and offered to introduce me to a Mr. Stahles, who bad, interest to procure a license, told would do so if the . spirit tr.ttle of "the house were securer' to .declined the offer, Mr. Stables, I htformed, is a cleric to the Commissioners of sewers, a very near relative of Sir Daniel Williams, brought up at his expellee, who about three years Mevion; to this application,- under - the support of essrs. Hanbury, was set up as sr dealer-in their bottled porter, and in spirits ; in which- trade he was shortly afterw a rds joinedby,a Mr. Williams,. another near relative of Sir Daniel's ; they have since met with extraordinary success, u 1' aM'iti formed, among the publicans its Sir Daniel ons's division. In August last, - I- spoke to Mr„ Robsna, 'a leading magistrate in the Tdwer Ham lets division, and- the eotifidentiatqriend of Sir Daniel Williams, expressing mbujopeshat ferenee which had subsisted between toe and the magistratei in that neighbourhoOd would not be the nteaus of preventing the. public-house, •of w hich 1 was the owner, from being licensed. Mr: flubson said, that as a friend, he would. advise no: to engage the trade to Iklessrs. Hanbury and Company, for that' it was expected the ma gistrtttes wished to serve Ateutte'l Seeing that it was in vain to contend against this issue, titereftne offtqed to sell the house to Messrs. Hanhury for what it cost me out of p ocket, with. out interest, or to let, icto them on a long lease at a rent yielding we bet weeu 51. and-61. percent. interest on what the house cost building ; with this they seemed willing to close. I then Went to Mr. Robson, at tire IVliitechapel Office, where he was sitting with Mr. Rice Davies, and told him. what I had done, end that I conceived my offer to he accepted. Upon tbis.Mr. Robson express ed his satisfacticm, end intimated there would be no difficulty in licensing the house ; he freely stated that three of them (whom `I understood to be Sir Daniel Williams. Mr. Merceron, and Nir. Robson), met previous to the licensing day, when they pre-determined what "Ini n.ses should be licensed ; and he " if necess a ry, our friend here (Mr. Rice Davies) will attend." Ile then procteded to explain to Mr.• Davies. the necessity. of licensing the house ; its .tennitenesi from any other public-house; the very great num her of new and inhabited houses around it ; the large property I had on the spot,- and the eircom ' St atiCe tlis t I had taLvil doWII an old public-house, the Mai . quis or Granby, rat the saute estate in the Mile-end-road, where public-houses are too crowded ; while in I'Vhite-hot se-lane, the situation of the new house, there was not one ;'so that the public were greatly benefited by the exchange of place, and obliged to Mr. Beaumont ; and he, Mr. Robson, particularly desired that the 'chem. stance of my having pulled the old public-hotke down should be mentioned in the meinori,d for li censing the new tine. Mr. Davies concurred in all that was said, promised to atl end if necessary, and added, it would he a great shame, if,,holding so much property on the spot, I could not get a house lieen‘ed. On the following day I saw Sir Danit.l Williams, and stated to him the terms on which I had Offered to part with the house to M> Ssrs. franburv, remarking, that 1 shosild still lose the interest 'of my irrioleytor three years: Sir Daniel entered with ,erode;; zeol into the argument for licensing the ,honse, RIO observed, that it was nObatfthitig to get my principal back. 'A few days before the licensing - , Messrs. Hanbio declined raking the houseon the terms qtrered, say iug that an inferior house would be more to their interest. On Monday, the 18th of : September, the Sosticei met ors the business of licensing ; peseta, Sir Daniel Williams, Mr. Rhode, Mr. Zstory, Merceron, Mr. Robson, Mr. IVindle, Mr;FlOod, 11 r. Meshiter. The licensing was apposed hy„Sir Daniel Williains and Mr, Robson, in which they. were followed by Messrs., Merceron, Hood, Whittle, and 'Mushiter, who usually vote wide them, as I ant infortued and believe. Mr, Rhodes an d . Story,, appealing strotiglyagainst this; derision, were shortly answered by Mr. Robson,i that it was a better house than necessary, end; p er h a p s n ev e r. would be licensed.. The connexion` here evinced between these magistrates and Messrs._ Jlittibury is 'made no secret ot. by the agents of the latter;. I had . heard it freely avowed by then). At a licensing meeting in 1814, a Mr. Ventonl, the broker of Messrs : li an ti nt y,. was troduced to me by Mr. Hubberd, a Lieutenant in the;Ton en ll.OnletsThlilitia, saying, '' This is the gentleman to get . your house licensed ;" Ventotn said, it would he licensed directly,-if I : gave.Messrs. Hatibery the trade ; and in onswer to a question, added " Messrs. Banbury would not of c o urse be at the expence and trouble of using their influence with the jnatictle, uttles the trade ,were made sure to ,them Does Major Jackson act iu that division ?--.lle foes. Does lie take any part or interest with Mr. Williams and others in licensing.?—Yes,he does; diiy - occasionally dilkr when there is a collision Of ;interests . ; but in general he gives way to Sir Daniel Williams ; he has a nephew who bet up in the spirit trade. . Do you state it distinctly to the Committee.as your opinion, that in the case which ,yoo .have just laid before them, if you find sold your hottse to Messrs. Hanbury, or engaged to take their spi rits and liquors, there would have heel) no ()a cidly whatever in obtaining the license ?—I thoroughly persuaded of that. Have you bad any discussions with the Maxis_ trates in that division, relative to any other houses besides thuse in which you had an itionetliate trrebt 1--No, .1 have, been at their meeting s when other cases were considered. . Are those persons who applied to Mr.Hanb ur y -for his interest with the Magistrates to obtain :license, required to enter Into any Undertaking 'with him of 'a ~ legal nature, .that they will deal with him, 'when th eir house is licensed ?--4 have had numerous publicans who have been with me and stated that, and that when they had done so they had nlivays suceeeded. What is the nature of those agreements ?---The one I have heard of is, that the trade should be assured to them for a terns oft or 14 years, in consideration of their interest in procuring the license. - • Do you kit6w of any snm of money paid by. victuallers to 'their servants or other persons, in nddition to the agreement you have deScribed.l— 1 have : neetr heard of that Can you. take upon yourself to say, that it is the common' fame of that dwriet; that a eentjec tiort exitAa between Messrs. llanbury and rite Ma - , gistratcs, so that those who have the' reeottimende , tint) of :Messrs: ilanbitry have a preference over any other persons in the licensing of .public- houses ?—Most decidedly so. Do you know whether the near relations of any of the,oigistrates are spirit-dealers, or hold re , tail spirit-tdion.l?---Messrs. Stables nod Williams, whom I have alt early mentioned ; .and Mr..oeange; the nephew, of Major Jackson, who keeps a retail spirit shop -at the corner of Somerset -street, Whitechapel, us 1 am informed and believe. Do, you know whether. those young men were brongitt. up 0 : the trade )—I believe none of them they were in the Tower Hamlets militia, Can you eto the -Committee any thing as to .the. conduct of the persons who keep' the stualler Publierbosupts In the division ; whether they are ittpt in ,an, orderly condition or not %.---Many of 4lietwarc drourderly ; the.. worst practices 'arc al lowed in them. llaye you. ever been present when . complaints were laid before the magistracy as to the eontitict tai those houses What was done ?—The complaints were, re jected. Did a minute investigation take place ?—No ; was tedlittell, but o % ! trrid e d, Do 'you knovy whether those houses either be longed .to or were 'nulled by Messrs. lianbury and Williams ?-1 do nut know that. Are there:any houses that are technically termed " Flash-houses" in that district ?-1 believe there are many. Have repeated complaints been made against them ?—Yes. Within your own knowledge do you know any in`stance of. licenses having been refused on the' licensing day to persons who kept disorderly houses I—No, not of my own knowledge. Did you ever hear of that having taken - place I. —Yes ; 1 have heard that it has taken place, but that they have afterwards been revived. Do you believe that it was a mere fraudulent withdrawing of the name, the old parties having a connexion still in the houses I—From all I have heard,lhavc no doubt- of the original pat ties' con,;. flexion with the house still subsisting. Did the same bad practice that had called down the censure 'of the Magistracy still continue Yes, as . l ittfornied.' Do yon know whether complaints were again mule AgainA those houses they were, in the licensing in 1814. Do yriu recollect ‘shat took place then ?—I al lude to :lonics hi the parish of Shadwell. Fletcher, the churchwarden, accompanied by the Other parish olhcers arid a large number of -very respecratle inhabitants, attended in Osborne street on• the adjourned day for licensing : they had prcriuu•ly sent in iumemorial,7setting forth the bad conduct of certain houses in that division, and they then attended and tendered themselves OH oath to give evidence of tvtpit they had stated in their memorial, and. of other facut in -utii!it ion then with was reinsed, and . their et.idence ' re prehsvd npnn points of form. Mr. Fleteher,pro veeded to give evidence against the hlndlord of certain public-house, 1 think the King's' Aims"' when it was remarked, that be was nolonger the lawitcrd, for that a new man had been lately .put in, and the complaints that applied against the former tenant could not be hear&agairis't the new one : he professed himself unapprisrd of-that fact, but said in general terms that the conduct brill c(mt i i ii,,,} t h e same. It is nit abotnusnal ex pedient, where ii house is of tr.tt ill lone that it is known complaints ‘till•be niade against it, just before the licensing day for the 'ohl tenant to be removed to some other house, Or removed from . the one in (wet Om,: at least; - and new man put. in ; in whicti rase there can be no evidence. Yon were present at this time I' 7 -1 was. Was there a dispoOtion on the part of rite Ma gistracy to inquire minutely into the conduct of those rothlic-houtes?—No; on the contrary. there appeared to me a disposition to shut out inquiry. .not those particular licenses against which Mr. Fletcher made a complaint to the Magis trates had their licences stopped the year before; acid was not that the second year of his making the complaint bad complained of s e ve ra l houses the year: before, but these were not the 'louses which had had their licence stopped ; ibese were the houses to which the business - bad been carried in consequence Of those licences be ing•stopped. • To whom did those houses betong?—The worst house; the 'Doke of York, belonged to Messrs. Meux. When these houses were put down, other public-houses adjacent to them, which previously had been well ordered houses, became immediate ly as had aathe houses just poi down and Mesara. iMeux, who were the proprietors, or interested in the Duke of York, set up one of those houses, putting a man in for the avowed intention of keeping up the connection, which was a Series of brothels at the back of the Duke of York, kept by the landlord of the'Duke of York. Do your think, as a Magistrate sitting. upon the Bench, that the objectiOns . tiiken by the Bench to the evidence of Mr. Fletcher proceeded from a bias in favour •ter the 'publican, or from thinking not made out his case ?—I think there was is bi:us against Mr. Fletcher's application, de cidedly. Mi g ht not that bias arise from thehouses of which Mr. Fletcher complained being of that de scription which it is adMitted must be 'tolerated iu that particular district ?--It might, certainly , (To be Contioued.) IRELAND. CAIIRICK oN surk, SEPT. 3.—Two biglmisymen were takCn abort a mile from the (awn on the road to Castletown yesterday evening, by two of Din- policemen. . The fellows made resistance, but were secured after being , Wounded badly, One bad soine slugs ,lodged in bit arm, and a shot went through his mouth. The army vas out after more of them last night.—(Waterford Mirror:) On Monday night last, seven Men; under dif ferent charges . of breaking houses for arms, a t e, were apprehended -by the Chief Magistrate of Louth, attended by a party of 'horse and foot pa- These:persons, though taken. on the4nure night, lived at a distance of nearly twenty miles asunder. They were lodged in the gaol of Trim on -Wednesday. The police, on their return, took up in Ardee, about two Wclock on Thursday Morning, oneldTabe, under stispicious circum stances, who proves to be' a. notorious sheep sealer, and is now in Damialk gaol. On Saturday, the '?4th of August last, Patrick Cor4 • was executed at Philipitown, pUrsuant to his sentence, at the last Assizes of that town, for uttering notes of the Bank ofireland, fraudulent ly, altered. This unfortunate man did, after his conviction, folly acknowledge his crime. On Tuesday, the 27th ultimo, a girl keeping cartle discovered in . ft field near Seaton-itotiaa, Aberdeenshire, a parcel containing a large quan=' Lily of what appeared to be silver coin, bat which, on examination,'proved be base money, to tilt: amount of no less than about 1121. 'I he money consisted of pieces of all the different denomina tions • uow in circulati on , f rom three shillings downwards, and was carefully put up in paper par cets of 20s. each, to prevent the bad effeets of ' frietiort in disc Overing the base metal. 'rite whole was brought to Aberdeen, but no discovery has yet' been - made of ilia parties concerned in this nefarious' bus iacss. CORONERS' INQUESTS. An Inquisition was yesterdaytaken at theQueen'l Arms 'Tavern, in Red Lion-passage, Red Lion square, before Mr.•STARLjNO upon the body of Mrs. James, of Red Lion-square, who came by her death through falling out of a window'upon the third. Boor. ,NR,I, Fielding, a servant of the deceased, being sworn, lfaisfthat her mother, who is also a servant in the same house, "Italia heron Sunday morning about 12 o'clock to go up stairs , - and see if Mrs. James was in her sitting routes she w!is not there, but heard Mrs. James speaking to her grandson froth the window upon the third floor. Stic went 'to the kilchol a window, and saw the deceased leaning over the window-frame in a very dangerous manner ; she directly ran to her mother, and told her that she thought her mistress was going to throw -herself through the window ; her mother gave no credit Au what she said, and she went into a front room to seewliat o'clock it was, and as she was crossing the staircase she WO ,agtai_se itt-the yard ; she looked through the window, and sa' alts james on the , flour apparently dead ;, sl;r and 10 mother, we into the yard, with a yonng than whoui souls t , erson had let into the White; they saw Miss James and SI asterJantes; Miss James,was screaming very loud : they coni . eyed the deceased ititn the house. . . 21Trs: Elizabeth Fielding, the Mother of thefpiecding wits Hess. corroborated the evidence-of the last witness. ' Edward Moreli„ winter :At the Queen's Arms Tavern, sworn, said that on Sunday morning,, about 12 o'clock, as hu W3S itt his bed-room, the hind cries of a female in distress attra o " l his notice; he got from his chamber window to a partition wail, and saw the deceased lying upon the ground apparently lifeless. He went round to the front door of Mrs. Jamess. house, and was athivitted by Mrs. Fielding; he assisted bee and her daughter to bring' the deceased-into the hohseCtidli at the request of Miss James, he went for Mr,'Morgan. a surgeon, who came directly, and, said that tht..dereased quite dead. Mr. Samuel Smith, surgeon, said, that he knew the decsas. ed many y..-ars from attending the family professionally; ehn has haven afflicted two yeti►x with 4 i F iti breast, and was I.► el! an ntneb wore, that be recornmnik.d OrON!nia'il to 11, led in, who Ga.trepeatutilrvis;ted her. - He came to visit her On, Sunday, a few minutes after the accident ; and as the Irameltt. the window frum which she fen coda-s il.:.;rly down to Oa room fluor, he thought that a dizziness wiAht h a ve talien deevaied in her bead, which was the cause of her t tiro:Av. Trie:Jury, after examining, the holy , a lt`! r -- window through which she fell, returned a verdict of 4eridental Death. ,• Yesterday afternoon an Inquisition was hcid 41 ,the sign of th e T r i um phant Chariot, Gr("v aor-, Lidace, on view of the body 01 Jane I child only seven years old, who met her ii.2. 111 ' uence of her clothes having caught fire . HVerdltEL-deeidernal Death. An Inquisition was taken at the house of ,firs, Mary Coleman, the sign of , the General f 'Royal Hospital-r o w, Che6ca, upon the hdY , O Mrs. Ann M af i a P o p e , %tiro tell upon lie Ou t baker's shop, 1 bile asking for a loaf of bread ( 0 3 Monday morning,.and instantly expirc“ A • Va. dict—Died by the risitation of - Cad. r Ithoisition leas - .taken w tak at the I e SaVern,Russell-street,.upon the body of mf i ‘ir .. Mitchell, a journeymau.bricklayer, servant t( Coates, build e r, Drury-lane. Xrcrdict—iie ci " d e tat Death. 1. An Inquest was heldat the London Ilospit" I the body of Joshua _e_jeßutt,iedwho frith a stet s his death Y, hating histtlirdru:ntai Dea th.berttsi Another Inquisition was at tlt:easulam'eugclisra''.f and place on the body cif Henry Nelson , .4: prentice on board the ship Pearson, who , °I.I s at turday last, fell down the bold of the shiP , t was so dreadfully. injured Chet he di e d in $ I ' ll ° l l Verdict es above, The "interesting Mrs. BEVERLEY," Weill in , °llll iti thiS city, and other watering places, fin . livering Readings and Recitations, has latt:lY bec ,f displaying her rhetorical talents in a new sal° ', action—viz. at the Court of Assize for the c, ° `,", 11/ A of ‘Varwiek, pleading her own cause ak a '" il — i r . charge, of 'pilfering a pocket- hui nth: erobjet. tr mingham! She attracted, as usual, a o" aler h l r and elegant company; and We doubt not th ' impressive - eloqueme, as usual, affected tit` " ns . bility of a great part of her audience ; butt unr, ° l . l. o innately there were twelve individuals %do' so•obdurate and ungallant as not . to hu'.l".": 9l '. c ; that .the handkerchief was picked up by 111 ' 41‘1 : and the consequence was, that poor Mrs. : atiOVitabetli Ricards, wag sentenced w etrilltiii,,t4r the term of twelve calendar months, (Bitt,i Paper.) 'era Two Granville women and, a fair Gotdoeltivi 1 0,i.ved at this port on Wednesday last oo the Rose,.Captain De Grouchy, frotn JerseY,"ol6. a cargo of 50,000 eggs, which, after pa p Y c h l r t :co; duty, they sold to the inhabitants at 6s .tired. During the course of Thursday G entl „ c!' ot flocked-in numbers to the Quay (the ele r g' h i t ,so to behold the Norman beauty : e a -WlrO'anderstood the French language conversation with her, and returned to thcir spec:aye 'tonics highly gratified.—(Soutli oraPl° oi We are told, that a Gentleman of the "3"'et Watmstay lately died in Lancashire, hind hit, among other property of inimelo e v 3 50,000 Guineas !—Another hoarder has “ 14 ; 0 00 parted from the world, leaving behind him • Guineas in gold. h The windows of a room in the bosrtling'-°erp of Mrs. CIATANCH, opposite the sea, at C ra l l ,l4' being left open during thcliigh wind on S 31 1: o' se'nuight, the wind blew the whole oi town into the yard, and a lady's shawl, which et a lying on the floor, was carried to a clOotr a l„ t he considerable distance, and torn to rags . morning several d e ad roo k aimi f cro ws were which had been killed during the night. . _ . BIRTHS. of l?'Y On Feiday, its SOth ult. at Portswood, Hants, the W, Mactiunun,'Es. uf ardaghtt . r. rl3 d" Esq• Ott A. the 10th inst. th q e Daly uf u darues Flower, of turtt-sOare, of a son, who died an hour after birt_ MAAR! ED. r,,(1! On Tne*lay, at Meopharn, Kent, William Cctieli ddn,t"' : a o f Ot the,.4fitple, to Catherine Rebecca, eldest Ju CiafggAfitith,,.EsT, of Canter. . . • DICD. 4 En' ' ' At Geneva, Thomas Sydrnliain E'sq. late his Mait.)l; ,ad e y o i r lov ixt. 4u i:a c t . : a in::: ti ii to t 1 1 , I i i i i b l o i n o , y r a t: li d k ig :ig m t es lt s . ::::: ll. l :: s : l, l . l 6..6ll4. Swedish Orders of*. 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