The Sun. — London, England, 1852-06-22 00:00:00

Ziiittl . '','" 4 Won. SUN OFFICE, Seven o' Clock. NEWCASTLE RACES. (THIS DAY.) (BY ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH). The Trial Stakes. Sappy tiola Shamrock Priam Eight ran. Won by a neck. The Second Triennial Stakes. Miss Whip colt ... ... ... ... North Derby Stakes. Lucio ... ... Sally Warfoot colt Won easy. Stilton was scratched at 2.45. ... 1 ... 2 ... 3 walked over ... 1 ... 2 LONDON, BRIGHTON, AND SOUTH COAST RAILWAY—(THIS DAY.) A special general meeting of the proprietors in this com pany was held this afternoon, at the Bridge-house Hotel, London-bridge, for the purpose of considering the propriety of entering into an arrangement with the Crystal Palace Company. The meeting was very numerously attended. Samuel Laing, Esq., the chairman of the company, pre sided. On the directors entering they were received with loud cheers. On the suggestion of a shareholder, all persons who were not proprietors, with the exception of reporters , were ordered to withdraw. The CHAIRMAN said, in moving a resolution approving of the arrangement entered into by the directors with the necessary Crystal Palace Company, he was happy notitoMemeet' ' for him to trespass long on the patience of HI, in asmuch as he had already had an opportunity sentd e tasirl arrange ment, u to nd th to e regard explaining fully the views of the directors with _ . and as the case had been prehsaeantehdeeinn as possible the shareholders in the circular which shortly Y d since the last them. He would, however, state as s a n d. o o which aheeenotrdtaoncaellwit the suggestion he course of proceeding meeting, a fortnight agwoh. the proprietors, con tainingwasofsthe heads of the agreement—a then made, a circular a verbatim cony short business -like s tatement of facts and figures--and they were r equested to send in a return, sayi ng " y es " or " No, " as to whether th e y approved of the a rrangement i n quest i on. In sending ro und the circular, the object of the directors was to ascertain distinctly, and beyond all doubt, the real feeling of the great bulk of the Brighton proprietors. They were anxious that their opinion should be clearly and un equivocally expressed. Th ey f elt strongly that, if the pro prietor 3 tcok a contrary view to themselves, it would oe altogether inconsistent with their character and utility as directors to remain any longer in their present position. They had unanimously ma l e up t h e i r m i nds to res i gn i n t h e event of the decision being against them, but they had re frained from saying one word about the matter in the circu lar, lest it might be hereafter said the opinion of the share holders had been biased and influenced to some extent by the threat of resignation held out by the directors.—(Cheers.) He assured the meeting, with all sincerity, that the only anxiety he entertained was lest the proprietors should de clare an opinion upon the question by a majority which was not sufficient to set it at rest.—(Hear.) He felt that whether they continued to hold their present office, or re signed and were succeeded by a new board holding opposite views, it was most material that a hitherto great and prosperous company should not suffer from that worst of all inflictions—a working administration which could not command support.—(Cheers.) gnawing the great difficuLy there was in getting proprietors to make a return expressing their opinions on questions affecting the company, especially in times of comparative prosperity, h e laboured under the apprehension that returns would only be sent in by a small number of proprietors, an'l that the real sentiments of the great mass of them would still remain involved in considerable doubt. He was happy, however, to say that his anxiety had been dispelled, because the number of replies received to the circular were very much larger than he had ventured to anticipate.— (Cheers.) The largest number of proprietors who had ever recorded their opinion en any previous occasion was on the steam-boat question, which gave rise to the most lively interest, and to an active cam-ass on both sides; but on a division being taken, only 1,3 )0 proprietors, repre senting 2,094,118/. of stock, recorded their votes. On the present occasion, 2,342 proprietors, being considerably more than half of the total number of proprietors qualified to vote, representing in stock 3,242,7511., had returned their approval of the proposition.—(Cheers.) The number of dissentient proprietors was only 579, who represented 1,014,781/. in stole.—(Cheers.) Therefore, as far as that expression of opinion W 43 concerned, the proposal of the directors was approved of by a majority of three to one both as to persons and the amount of stock represented.— (Cheers.) He might almost conclude with that announce ment of the number?, for they had all met for the one com mon object of doing the best for their common property, and he could not conceive any one would carry party spirit to such a length as to attempt to reverse, by a comparatively small nui.iber of proprietors, the deliberately expressed opi nion of a great majority.— (Hear.) He would himself never do anything of the sort, if the majority were adverse to him, and tie seas sure no such attempt would be made, or if made, would recoil on the heads of those who were a party to it.—(Hear.) At the same time it would be more becoming on the part of the directors, and more conso nant with their feelings, if, instead of attempting to carry the question with a high band and in an arbitary manner, they endeavoured to obviate the bond fide objections which hart been urged by a respectable body at the proprietors. He said bonetfide, because there was another class of objections which were not bond fide, the parties making them being wolves in sheep's clothing, who, under the disguise of Brighton proprietors, came There and advocated other interests than those of the Brighton Company.— (Cheers.) These bond fide objections mainly resolved themselves into two points—first, the apprehension that the arrangement in volved a partnership in a new and untried speculation ; and the other that it might involve the opening of the capital account. The first objection was founded on fact, and was entitled to great weight, because the Brighton property had now assumed such a sound and substantial cha racter, that it: would be impolitic to ally themselves to enter into any new and untried speculation, how ever promising it might be, and when the arrangement which was first brought before the directors 'required an ab solute guarantee on their part, they felt it their duty, how ever strongly convinced they might be that it was merely nominal, to reject the proposal contained in that agree ment. They, however, proposed, as the condition of another agreement, that they should be put in a posi tion which involved no partnership with the Crystal Palace Company, and no risk whether it succeeded or failed. An agreement had accordingly been drawn up upon those terms, and it had received the approval of Sir F. Kelly and Mr. Lloyd, of the common law bar, and Mr. Bethel, of the Chancery bar, who gave their written opinion that it involved no partnership or participation by the Brighton Company in the risks and profits of the Crystal Palace Company, and that the arrangement come to was within the legitimate business of the two companies. There might be some present who con sidered themselves better lawyers than Sir F. Kelly and Mr. Bethell ; but if money was of no object to them, and they took it into their heads to apply for an injunction, all he could say was that they would find it a very expensive amusement.—(Laughter.) The practical effect of the agreement would be, that if the plan succeeded they would obtain a large additional traffic and a corresponding profit, and if it failed they would remain precisely where they did. For his own part, the more he reflected on the matter the Tore he was convinced that a very large amount of pro table traffic would flow on their line.—(Hear, hear.) A s to th • a objection to constructing a fourth line of railway mmln the Brickl a y er ' s J unc ti on to Croydon, every practical ax e°olleet • raotive ed with the working of the line, from the loco wow, superintendent down to the lowest engine -driver, if n-n unlit that su c h a line w a s ahsoluteiy necessary, -se a train, during . the increased at the rate it had done related to ilea': two years. The second main objection diously rep e „ el l' t s e apn of the capital account. It was stu ofs a departure that what the directors proposed to do fixing the per r te orn the policy they had hitherto pursued deviating from ais t e i r l it capital at a certain figure, and never dey at figure. In one of the pamphlets circulated by those wh o the ea s e, was were not ConinnnY,connected with the Brighton Put as stro t • they could put it them ee v e ngly in - said f as po li c y was just the converse It was there said that their of Mr. Hudson's—that he paid dividends out of ca p i ta l s % of dividend. could . a nt lit that they paid capital out Mr. H u d so n, but this h e k ne `y_ , NV i l l aat were the practices of which was inevitable on all, r : 11 _ , at the extra expenditure creased had in several instae eas w ,,,Y B on which the traffic in dend rather than out of pern eatkeia u, disci is out of divi were satiefieci with a revenue 5 0c `; ‘ ,,1?, , , 5 !t1. It the proprietors directors . co t a`nalL a year, and a 4 per cent. dividend , the if they desired t ,,' L °P any further ex penditure ; but more, there y: get adividend of five per cent. or even eaust b e. and it could jut be e some outlay on permanent c.-, ways— b y mailing constant fnroadfs ott,loerronavaided in two neat capital, or ,by settingfund. The rentie as a kind aside a portion o of sinking or reserve that the permanent capital should remain - Z s tts 'r , proposed the requirements of the prokpoird undertakih' e r T v, and that out oi the' r t s old be met by a temporary fund tsve question was whether the policy Pur - liee enu e e ' The periodm of three ear ° 3' s the present board for a mean , of pushing the traffic by every always looked e n., Power was or was not sound ? They inducement to xi c t raltc, Brighton Railway as one for pleasure, not busi ee l the and they held out every possible nd g thi s line, description of traffic on their a ver the"b lic had availed themselves to great The best pr„ f of extent of the facilities afforded by them. directors was the the success of the policy adopted by the estimation of the public in regard to t h e market value o f their property. In January, 1849, the price of the 1001. stock was only 621., but now int had reached 1 061.—(Hear, flew.) The stock . the other great metropolitan railways had either remained The plain stationary or increased to a very small extent. lain reason for this improvement in the Brighton shares that the income had augmented by 132,000/, while, the increase in the working expenses w as on l iy 46,0001., thus enabling them honestly and The to increase the dividend by more than one per cent. chairman then adverted to the secret negotiations that legitimate y took place for the purchase of the Crystal Palace, observing that there were two parties in the field — one who looked more to aristocratic patronage than popular support, and desired to place the erection on Wimbledon-common, or some other fashionable locality fre quented by duchesses and high-born ladies, and the other, the popular party, who looked for a situation which would afford the greatest amount of accessibility to the crowdeti portions of the metropolis. The latter party had succeeded in their efforts • they had the cou rage an d sp i r i t to un d erta k e the removal of the building without the assistance of the Government or the patronage of the nobility ; and he firmly believed they would be the weans of conferring a great blessing and benefit on the mass of the population.-- (Cheers.) Atter some further observations, the Chairman concluded by proposing a resolu tim enabling the directors to carry into effect the general objects of the a greement entered into with the Crystal Palace Company. taki Mr. BELL said, in e' course against the scheme pro pounded by the Chairma:',- a or connexion with the two cam repudiated having any alliance tinned. lie neither cared forrite aristocracy nor the demo in no other character than that . ( c , lasses, and appeared there ' The agreement was founded on illogical a Brighton proprietor. were drawn from premises that had a gical conclusions, which • condemned the scheme as one likely t n o o real existence, He to the Brighton Company, and he thoughtrult in great injury promoters wad not altogether enl the conduct of the entering at some length into the details of the After the project, amidst ; loud cries of " Time," and uproar, he concluded by moving that the consideration of the question relative to the Crystal Palace be adjourned sine die.—(Laughter and cheers.)said he Captain KELLY opposed the amendment, an d d everything thought under the proposed agreement they to gain and nothing to lose.—(Hear.) cheer fully support the directors. A SHAREHOLDER proposed the insertion o to the public agreement against opening the Crystal Palaceo.a,__.) on the Lord's-day.—(Laughter and disapprobation.) twu of the highest He f b a a clause should i n the Mr. MALTDSLEY said he had consulted approved of the speculation into which e, to solemnly protest and ablest authorities on the question,thbous°dtinreoettoornaewoisfhtehdetmo enter. He felt it his duty, therefotr Mr. Lxvy expressed his disapproval nroprietors were in its against confirming the agreement with the C th r e ys u tal hd P er a t l a a k c i e n . g, but hoped if the majority of the yeace Company would be fa vour, no director of the Crystal Ilear n . a ) ncy occurred, all he could appointed to this board.—( The CHAIRMAN said, ifa vacancy Idnotelect T sa h y a I call gammon.—(Laughter.) power up a vacancy. MY. LEVY—That is w was, that meeting alonethe directors ha d h t this morning they would bring 22,0001. He did not wish to injure the Brighton Company, for if his shares were soldisole _a burnthi l d He did not profess to know h mull about the project, but he was against investing th a n a fire—hadpuppet sdreads thew.more been disregarded by the propri e to rs , w ho t e have forgotten how they h a d b een b urnt b y th e ho The d money ad iang what was child seemed atmospheric line.—(Laughter.) Mr. SLACK warmly supported the directors. pa r. HERArATH had no objection per se to the crystal Palace being erected at Sydenham, but he was opposed to an y of their capital being embarked in it. On the con clusion of his speech be handed in a protest against the ar rangement being entered into. Some further discussion took place amidst continual in. terruption and marks of disapprobation. A division was then taken, when the amendment was lost by an overwhelming majority. The original motion was then carried. The proceedings terminated by a vote of thanks to the Chairman. QUEEN'S BENCH.-(THIS DAY.) (Sittings at Nisi Fritts at Westminster, before Lord CAMPBELL and a Special Jury.) THE QT.rEEN (ON THE PROSECUTION OF ACHILLI) v. NEWMAN.-CRIMINAL INFORMATION. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition.) The next part of the case which was gone into was the connexion of Dr. Achilli with the college established at Malta by a committee of gentlemen in England, at the head of whom was Lord Shaftesbury. Dr. Achilli held the post of Italian theological tutor in that branch of the college which was devoted to the reception of priests seceded from the Roman Catholic Church. The Earl of Shaftesbury, Dr. Hadfield, President of the College, and Mr. Watts, clerical secretary to the committee, were examined relative to Dr. Achilles conduct there, which, though not marked by any of the excesses which, according to the evidence, appear to have disgraced his residence in other places, was of a nature to cause his dismissal from the post which he there held. While resident there it ap peared that charges were brought by an Armenian priest, named Kaosi, who afterwards absconded, involving Dr. Achilli and two Italian priests, Saccores and Leonini, rela tive to the introduction of women into the college. The committee determined to investigate the charge, but failed in so doing in consequence of Dr. Achilli having suddenly sent away Sacares on a mission to Sicily. For this act, and for having absented himself for an entire month from the college without leave, the committee in London dismissed Dr. Achilli from his post. The next part of the case gone into was the offences alleged to have been committed by Dr. Achilli in England. The first witness called was; Harriet Harris, a good-looking young woman of about 20 years:of age, examined.by Sir A. COCKBURN, who said—That in 1850, shewas engaged by Dr.Achilli as a domestic servant. Ile then lived at Shaftesbury-crescent, Pimlico. Mrs. Achilli was not then arrived. The first evening that I was there, Dr. Achilli came down stairs into the kitchen, and, taking hold of me, tried to put his arms round my waist and tried to kiss me. He also tried to put his hands in other places and to take improper liberties with me, but I would not let him. He tried to do it several times, but he did not succeed. He asked me, too, it I wanted a bedfellow. —(Laughter.) He never attempted to take liberties with me after Mrs. Achilli came back. Jane Legg, examined by Mr. BADDELEY—I was, in the beginning of last year, in the service of Dr. Achilli, at Shaftesbury-place, Pimlico. After I had been there three months, Dr. Achilli began to take liberties with me. I gave notice to leave, but he persuaded me to stay on. He had net done anything worse to me than kiss me then, but very soon after the came up to me one morning in my mis tress's bed-room, and had connexion, with me. He had connexion with me several times after, and in the end I:be came in the family way and gave birth to a child on the sth of November last. There was a gentleman staying at Dr. Achilles then, named Augustini, who also took liberties with me and had connexion with me. My baby died aeon after it was born. Dr. Achilli never gave me any linen for my confinement. I never asked him. I have seen Dr. Achilli since my baby died. I told him that I had been subpcenaed to come here; he told mej had no oc casion to go, I must shut the door in the face of any one who came to fetch me. Cross- exam inated by the SOLICITOR-GBNERAL —Mrs. :chilli never found fault with me about my conduct with men ; she objected to a young man who used to come to see me, whom she found one night behind the back kitchen-door. There was also another young man who used to come to see me. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL--HOW many men wereyou in the habit of seeing ? Witness—l am not obliged to answer that question. Lord atairsELL—lf you have no objection you bad better answer it. Witness—V, ell, I had only two, the young man whom Mrs. Achilli found, and another one. Lord CAMPBELL —They came to court you ? Witness—Yes, my Lord. Mrs. Achilli used to say she would not have any young man coming to see me after dark. I cannot swear who was the father of my child. Ido not know. Sir A. COCKBURN—Had any one else connexion with you besides Dr. Achilli and Augustini? The witness remained silent and gave no answer to this question, which was not pressed. Sarah Logan, sister of the last witness, was next called, and deposed to her giving birth to a child at her (Mrs. Logan's) home. The case was proceeding when our report left, and is likely to continue some time, as his Lordship expressed his inten tion of sitting late. EMPERIAL P-ABLIAMENT. (THIS DAY.) HOUSE OF LOILDS, The LORD CIIANCELLOR took his seat on the Woolsack at Seve Five o'clock. ral Bills were brought up from the Commons and read a second time, including the Militia Ballot Suspension Bill and Militia Pay Bill. Lord GALLOWAY presented a petition from the Synod of Galloway against the Maynooth grant. Lord COLVILLE presented a similar petition from Forfar. LOSS OF THE BIRKENHEAD. The Duke of WELLINGTON said, in consequence of what passed the other night in reference to the discipline of the men on board the ill-fated Birkenhead, he had felt it necessary to inquire into the matter, and he was highly satisfied with the result. He begged, therefore, to move for a :copy of the order given on the 18th of December last to the several depots of regiments that sent men to the regiments at the Cape, of which such depOt formed part, which men e m b ar k e d in her Majesty's ship Birkenhead. Also a copy of the order of the 16th of June, requiring the commanding-officers of the several depOts to report whether the men embarked in the Birkenhead were instructed in firing a ball cartridge. And also copies of the reports received from the several depots in consequence. The motion was agreed to. CHANCERY RELIEF BILL. Lord LYNDHURST presented petitions from the Metro politan and Provincial Law Association, suggesting amend ments, and additions in this Bill, and praying the House to adopt them. The LORD CHANCELLOR said it would be impossible to adopt the suggestions at present. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY presented a petition from the locality against the use of Copenhagen-fi e lds for a cattle market. Lord REDESDALE presented a petition from the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Common Council for the of suppressiontecitof London, praying the House to pas s a Bill of betting-offices. NAVY PAY BILL. . . to attach a portion of the militia to the artillery? He took a different view to the Noble and Gallant Colon el opposite with regard to field officers, but he hoped some oh ange would be made in the dress and accoutrements of the mi litia. Major BERESFORD said it was proposed to raise 3,000 men, to be instructed by artillery officers, but U.' proposal would involve no increase in the estimate.—(He al., hear.) With regard to the latter suggestion of the Honex .rable and Gallant General, he begged to state that it was net ,;.intended to furnish the militia with frock coats, as the ges 'era' class of persons who were likely to be called out were xi( )t used to such a garment.—(A laugh.) Mr- WALPOLE said it was not distrust that in duced the Government to withhold their sanctior . to the for mation of volunteer rifle corps, and if any immoi hate neces sity should arise for the formation of such corps, t he Govern ment would not hesitate to avail themselves of diu iir services. At present, however, the Government was ma '., prepared to sanction or encourage the formation of rifle corps, nor did they think they would be until they had had the, fullest op portunity of seeing the result of the experiment they were about to try with the Militia Bill.—(Cheers.) The Bill was then read a third time and passieel. CONSOLIDATED FUND (APPROPRIATIO N) BILL. On the motion for the third reading of this Bill, Mr. 13ERNAL called the attention of the Si cretary to the Colonies to the fact that small-pox was raging with great severity in the island of Jamaica, and die mended to know if the Government intended to assist the collony with a supply of labour.— (Hear.) Sir JOHN PAKINGTON had already answer ed this ques tion. Nothing could strengthen his conviction o f the distress which prevailed in the colonies; but he felt 1 ,ound to be cautious how he raised hopes which might be ul•ti mately dis appointed.—(Hear, hear.) All he could promi 3(4 therefore, was that his attention would be constantly du voted .to the subject, and if any relief could be afforded, it should be promptly sent out. Mr. HUME again adverted to the petition wliich he bad presented from New South Wales against the cc ,raluct of the Government. That petition was adopte d by the people, and the Legislature of the colony, and Ibe wished the Colonial-office to turn their attention to the abuses com plained of, with the view of, if possible, applying a speedy remedy. He had given notice of his intention :to bring the state of the lonian Islands before the House ; bu t,, looking at the state of the session, he should abstain :from doing so. He must, however, state this much—t hat all the acts that they blamed Louis Napoleon for were being committed by the governor of the lonian Islands. The inhabitants were being imprisoned and transported without trial or charge, and he hopect before the next session a great change would be made for tl ie better in the system of government.--(Hear ' hear.) H e protested against the present proceedings of the Govern ment, and called upon the Government to look into the illega l acts. Sir JOIN PAKINGTON said that the tar o subjects which the Hon. Gentleman had adverted to were of extreme importance. With regard to the petition from 1 yew South Wales, it could not be lightly, or incidents illy dealt with.— (Hear, hear.) All its allegations could n( be sus tained, bat still it contained much truth, and be tween this time and the next session his closest attention should be di rected to the prayer of the petition.—(Hear, hear.) One portion of the petition prayed for the managoment of the waste lands, which the Government had anticipated in the case of Australia and New Zealand; and he had no doubt that the Government would ultimately deal in the same liberal spirit with New South Wales.—(Hear, hear, ) As to the other question of the lonian Islai ids, be thought he had a right to object to the manner in vhich the subject had been brought before the House. At one time the Hon. Member had promised to make'a motion on th e conduct of Sir Henry Ward, but he had abstained from doir g so, and it was not fair to make attacks upon that gentlem: in in this incidental manner.—( Hear.) Whenever the Hon. G entleman made his threatened motion, he should be prepare d to meet it, and to defend the conduct of Sir Henry Ward. After a few words of explanation from Mr. HUIAE, Sir IV. MOLESWORTH said he had heard with. satisfac tion the concessions which had been made to Aim tralia and New Zealand, and he hoped next session similar advantages would be secured to all our other colonies.—(Hear., hear.) After a few words from Lord EBRINGTON, Lord DUDLEY STUART said he did not approve of the proceedings which Sir Henry Ward had adopted.. On one occasion Sir Henry issued a proclamation offering a reward for the recovery of his enemies, whether dead or alive—an act which was worthy of Austria but not of England, upon which it had brought deep disgrace.—(Hear.) Mr. B. COCHRANE deprecated the course which the Noble Lord had pursued. Ile ought to have given notice of his intention to make this attack on Sir Henry Ward. After a few wordsfrom Mr. W. WILLIAMS, Mr. BELL wished to know what was the state of the negotiations going on between this country and France rela tive to the reduction of postage between the two nations. Mr. HAMILTON was unable to give an answer to the question as yet. The Bill was then read a third time and passed. METROPOLITAN BURIAL BILL. The House then went into Committee on this Bill. On clause 2, Sir %V. CLAY expressed a hope that a clause would be in troduced to prevent the closed: burial-grounds from being built: upon. Mr. WALPOLE was anxious that such a desecration of the dead should be avoided, but it would be better to reserve this branch of the subject for discussion on the report. The clause was then agreed to, as were also clauses 3,4, 5, and 6. On the 30th clause, Sir W. CLAY moved the following amendments :—To add the following proviso to section 2: Provided that no burial-ground in the metropolis, where burials shall have been discontinued by such order as aforesaid, shall be allowed to have any dwelling houses, shops, or warehouses erected thereon. lo strike out the proviso at the end of section 30, which provides for liberty in the parish board to have part of the new parish burial-ground unconsecrated, and to substitute the following proviso : Provided always, that in every case in which the party having the direction of the funeral of a person whom it is intended to inter in such burial-ground shall give notice to the keeper of the said ground that the services of a minister of the said United Church of England and Ireland will not be required thereat, it shall be lawful to inter in any part of such burial-ground the body relative to which such notice shall have been given without the services of any such minister, and to have the burial service performed as well in the said chapel as in the said burial-ground, according to the usages of the religious denomination to which the deceased, or the party having the direction of the said funeral, may have belonged or belong. He was of opinion that the odious distinction of consecrated and unconsecrated ground should be done away with, and that any inhabitant of a parish should be buried according to the rites of the Church to which in life he had belonged. The time was approaching when the Church of England would feel the necessity of conciliating its opponents; and this was a most favourable opportunity for introducing a feeling of good will between those different branches of what was almost the same faith. Sir JAMES DUKE would second the amendment of his Hon. Friend he trusted that the Government would consent to the amendment. Lord JOHN MANNERS was far from believing that the course proposed by the Honourable Baronet would have a conciliatory effect. It was not wise to single out a small por tion of Irish legislation to apply it to an important English measure. The clause complained of by the Honourable Baronet was not dictated by hostility to the Noncon formists, but with their entire approbation.—(Hear, hear.) This Bill did not violate iany existing prejudice, nor did it infringe upon the existing rights—(Hear)—of the Nonconformists.: He was afraid, that if the amendment were passed, it would deaden the beneficent intention of the whole measure. He would call upon the Committee to upset the proposal. Mr. OSBORNE felt bound to support the Hon. Baronet in his opposition to this clause. Admiral STEWART deprecated any distinction being made after death on account of religious faith. He should support the amendment. Lord D. STUART entirely concurred in the views ex pressed by the Hon. Member for the Tower Hamlets. He should support the amendment. After a few words from Mr. DUNCOMBE and Mr. D'Evx coultT, This Bill passed through Committee. NEW ZEALAND GOVERNMENT BILL. The Earl of DESART moved the second reading of this Bill, and declared that in his opinion it was one of the most important measures that had been introduced during the present anomalous session. (LEFT SPEAKING.) Mr. WALPOLE said that the present Bill did not at all alter the existing law. It was evidently neces sary that in providing a place of interment for the members of a parish that different parts should be set aside for those of different religious faith, and the readiest way of accomplishing this was by consecrating part of the ground and leaving the remainder unconsecrated. After some further conversation, the Committee divided, and the numbers were— For the amendment ... Against it ... Majority ... The clause was then agreed to. Clauses 32 to 38, inclusive. were then agreed to; and the House having resumed, the Chairman reported progress. GENERAL BOARD OF HEALTH BILL. . 40 ... ... ... 62 ... -22 ... The House then went into Committee upon this Bill, and all the clauses having been agreed to, the House resumed, and the Chairman reported progress. The other twelve o'clock orders were disposed of, and the House rose at Four o'clock. lIOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Twelve o'clock. BETTING HOUSES. _ . . The House resumed at Six o'clock. Mr. ALCOCK presented a petition from Herefordshire against the monopoly in guano. (LEFT BITTING.) rHE LONDON GAZETTE. The Sheriffs of the City of London appeared at the bar of the House, and delivered in a petition from the Mayor, Aldermen, and Commons of the City in Common Council as sembled, praying the House to pass a Bill to suppress betting houses. (THIS EVENING.) Charles Louis Kelly, grocer, Woolwich, July 6, att.7 o, a l 2d ' August 3, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Edwards, official assignee, Sambrook -court, Basinghall - street , San — . dom, Duke-street, London-bridge, and Deptford. INSOLVENT DEBTORS. S. Yates, grocer, Woolwich, Kent. J. W. Devereux, clerk, Berresford-street, Walworth. T. Gudrin, artist, Wardou r -street, Soho. ‘Tl..CsPhmoailptlhmar,adfn, licensed vict ua ll er , L ea d en hall-street. a , rin gro e c r e , r w , Glebe-place, King's-road, Chelsea , . C. L. Kelly, grocer and cheesemonger, Woolwich. R. Watkins, ins jun., tailor, I s li ngton. W. cabinetUdell, r maker, Bis hopsgate-street. T. H. Harwood, grocer, Hitchin, Herta. J. Goodwin, grocer, Godstone, Surrey. W. T. Palmer, commission agent, Compton-mews, Islington. C. Cooper, wholesale cheesemonger, Swan-lane, Rotherhithe. J. Morgan, hotel keeper, City -road. F. D. Lewis, printer, Regent-street, Bow-road. J. Belsham, shoemaker, Edgware -road. C. Collins, journeyman hatter, York-street, Westminster. W. G. Pearce, registered projector of the Irish coal and iron co mpany, Brixton. G. Burdis, jun., coal m erc h ant, Stepney. G. Butler, shipping agent, Coburgh-terrace, Old Kent-road. J. Powell, licensed victualler, Leadenhall-market. D. Burge, dress maker, Exeter.. R. Blackwell , bricklayer, Bi rm i ng h am . H. J. Carr, salesman, Manch es t er . S. Hirst, butcher, liant.:....mg 1 Heaton, Yorkshire. J. Kirkman, beer seller, Ainsworth, Lancashire. L. Lyon, picture dealer, Li verpool. A. Seymour, coal miner, Birti ?,y, Durham. D. Thomas, sail maker, Bisho pwearmouth, Durham. S. Clegg, grocer, Ardwick, La ncashire. W. Cannon, shoe manufacturer, Northampton. H. Heywood, auctioneer, Manchester. J. Newton, ink dealer, Cheetwood, Manchester. W. Schofield, grocer, Liverpool. W. Chifney, Se ymour -street, Euston-square. J. Holmes, cabinet maker, Hulme, Lancashire. J. Machin, brick maker, Hanley, Staffordshire. J. Roberts, innkeeper, Newport, Monmouthshire. 0. G. Cockrem, grocer, Barwick in Elmet, Yorkshire. J. Coward , licensed vi c t ua ll er, Sh ude-h i l l , L ancas hi re. table-knife W ort hi ng, Sussex. T. -knife manu f acturer , Sh e ff i eld, Yorkshire. J il G o odrich,Velle r, Shepherd, b cabin et J. Wilkinson, licensed victualler, Salford, Lancashire. J. Bagsbaw , hatter, Huddersfield. T. CharnleY, Plumber, Clitheroe, Lancashire. W. H. Cotton, dyer d:. Miln's B ridge, Yorkshire. tt . fanner, Carlton, Yorkshire. H. T. Jones, labourer, Upper Mill, Llanelly, Breconabire. H. Nichols, hicoepn Victualler, Brewood, Staffordshire. shopkeeper's assistant, Ipswich. Marriott,Wright, sl licensed MARKET INTELLIGENCE. the London New Price Current, Juno 22.) Su(GEArnolllo-day there was a good home trade demand for West es tass, r b e u f t F in rid soze c T as h e e s tphuebrlaietessau e a l ccep f te ß d a N t r b e a re . of 339 hhds, 34 tierces, and 265 brls went off quietly at a red uction of 6d per cwt, low yellow selling at 31s to 32s 6d, m id dling d rathereconsisting lndia under S t li g 33s to 355, good middling to good 35s 6d to 37 8 6 4, and fine 38a to 395; 16 brls Tobago 32s Od to 32s 6d, and 16 ditto Granada 30s Od to 33a Oct Per cwt. REFINED.-To-day the horde trade demand for Refined Sugar was more active, still brown lumps were obtainable at 478 6d, and low to fine grocery at 48s to 51s per cwt. Crushed Suga r of all kinds sells more freely for shipping at previous ter ms , alauerri ns.-This afternoon the private operations in Mauritius Sugar were limited. The public sales of 2,416 bags went at rather lower prices; fine yellow selling at 35s to 36s 6d, middling to good 32s to 34s 6d, inferior 30s 6d to to fine brown 2:Bs to 30s 6d, fine grainy yellow 3381-.-,: to 393, )9 T u a d and white 43s to 44s per cwt. LAST 1 li niA.-To-day the market for Bengal Sugar pre sented a n ; an.et appearance, and at auction 2,000 bags sold rather lower rates; Bemires, good to fine white went at 36s Gd to 3936 d, low to good middling 34s to 365, damp and washed 33s 6d to 395, good to fine grainy yellow 38s to 495, and Mauritius kinds at 32. s to 33s 6d for good middling to good. Of Madras there is ne public sale, and little done privately. 1• °IIEI G.N.- To-day Foreign Sugar was again much in quired a f ter. None was offered at auction. A cargo of tine yellow H avanna h rea li se d 25 s 3d f or n u mbe r 16 f or an outpost. MOL SSEs.-Of Cuba 600 puns old importation have been sold at 1 38 6d ; 700 puns New West India, St. Kitts, good to fine 143 t o 14s 6d, Antigua 15s 6 d , D emerara a nd St. Vi nce nt s 14s, and other sorts at 13s to 13s to 1 3s 6d. B enga l an d Mauritius wanted at 12s to 12 s 6d, an d few parcels can be obtained. Tamarinds are much wanted, East In dia at 7a to 12s, and West I n di a 22 s t o 40s. Honey sells rather freely , Cuba a t 30s to 40s, Jamaica 36s to 50s, and N ar b onne 50 s t o 60s per m et. C°l ' l° E. - -This afternoon holders of Coffee refused to ac ce p t lo wer rates, a n d o ff ere d none at public sale ; still the opera tions were sma ll f or a ll purposes. The value of Native Ceylon India. COCOA' -There has been more business doing in West is 44s to 46 3 ed per cwt for sound quality. At auction 413 bags Grenada were sold at 28 s to 32s 6d f or ordinary grey i s h to g o o d re d, an d fi ne 36 s t o 378. Privat ely sales of Trinidad made 29s to 335, for grey, low to middling red 33s to 358 6d, good middling to good 368 to 38s, and fine 38s 6d to 41s. Foreign is attracting more attention, and prices are firm, Bahia and Pans at 24a to 235, and Guayaquil 298 to 30s per cwt. . TEA-T o -d ay th e demand was more active for common Congou, at 8d per lb. Arrivals here of all sorts of Teas since the year commenced have been 31,466,000 pounds, and in the former one 34,472,000; total deliveries are 21,465,000, and 19,951 , 0 00 in 18 51. St o cks consist o f 44 , 062 , 000, a n d last sea son at same date 39,231,000. Rlca.-To-day a fair business was done in East India Rice privately at full rates. At auction 13 tons and 157 bags Bengal went at Gs lo 6s 8s 6d for damaged. Of Arrowroot 192 pks New Bermuda were taken in at Is ld to Is 2d, but 21 cks Jamaica sold at 3d for ord. GINGEIII.-At auction to-day 1,000 bags of Bengal were in part sold at 16s to 17s per cwt for rough export sort. PLMENTO.-To- day the demand was brisk, and there was an advance of %d per lb. At auction 270 bgs were all sold at 510 to 5 3 / 4 d for ord to good. PEPPER is wanted, and realises stiff rates. A public sale to-day of 700 bags Malabar went at 4 1 / ad for heavy. Cocuneee.e.-This afternoon there was a better demand for Cochineal, and an advance took place of ld to tld per lb. At Auction 100 bags Honduras Silvers were all sold at 3s 5d to 3s 7d for ord to good, but chiefly at 3s 7d. SALTPETRE.-To-day full rates were demanded, yet little business was done. At auction 626 bags from Boston were only in part sold at 25a Gd to 28s for refraction 12t/ t to 5 1 / 1 per cent. SPIRITS.-Of Demerara Rum many parcels were sold, still low rates continue to be taken-35 to 40 per cent. over proof se lling at 28 to 2s 2d, an d 30 to 34 over i s 10d to Is 11d. In consequence of rather lo wer t erms h a ving been accepted f or Jamaica, exporters and home dealers were induced to make large purchases. Prices for choice marks 36 to 39 per cent. over proof ranged at 33 4d to Os 10d, fine 2s 9d to 3s 3d, good mid to good 3 0 to 35 over 2s 3d to 2s Bd, mid 2s to 2s 2d, and low 24 to 28 over proof is 10d to is Ild. Several transactions have t aken place in East India at is 4d proof, and superior Is 41d. Leeward is wanted at Is 5d to is s ;; d, and is in small supply. Brandy-The value of Cognac best Brands of the vintage of 1851 is 4s 3 d to 4.3 sd, 1050 ditto 4s 6d to 4s Bd, 1849 ditto 4s 9d to 4s 11d, 1848 ditto 58 3d to 5e sd, older 5s 7d to Gs 6d, low to , and Bo r d eaux I s lid to 2s ld. A fair s Bs l 2d to 8s 3d for 22 under and 17 ditto Sc 8d to 8 s 9 d. Ge neva is wanted at 1 aeex mid f O e s r to ß 4 ri s tish a 8d to i ls 10d, and fine at 2 s to 2 s 4 d p e r gallon. made Spirit at Os 7d to 9s Oct cash; po sition, and there is a good business doing on t h e spo t. Fine Yellow Candle reali ses 38s 6d to 39s per cwt. For de li very opTerAaLtiLoOnsv.-havTehbe market for Russian remains in a firm een of im ortance , and there are few sellers under 398 for last three months of the year. Home melted finds a free sale, and 37s 6d to 38s is the value of prime , cash ; supply is not equal to this time last season. Of o ther p sorts of 'fallow the quantity on offer is less than previously, and at former rates there are several buyers. At auction 170 casks Australian were disposed of: Beef at 33s 3d to 375, Mutton 35s to 3e3s Gil ; 55 casks South American 36 s 3 d to 37s 611 per cwt. OILS.-There Continues to be a good demand for Seal, and the market has a ffrns ap earance • pale realizes 33 1 to 33 / 10s, and other sort s a , ell to 3 3 2/10s 'S ou thern is wanted, good fins is 361 to e '. e ") and l ow t o Mid 341 lOs to 351 lb. At auction 85 tuna lOs to 881 5s for British, and A matter is 901 to 94ewere sold at 871 American 86/ Se to 862 10s. Head , the ra . tes penance, prices rule a firma ppearance in the next sac r aooths firm, F Rapeseed there is an advance, pale selling at „ u ° 8 ,to32s or 6d, brown 30s 6d to 31s, and refined I , and fine. The re - orei u , t 27s Oil,d to sales 28s,h have been fer d delivery v i e m r y g 33s.The market for Palm has 'd e 27s to 28s 6d for fair pal ar Olive, and an advance is quickly looked worth 45/ to 461, and other sorts • for • Gallipoli is at present rts aa !. is a brisk sale for been concluded i _ _ s to Cochin has been selling a 348 to 358 6d u , c e _, o ti t o_co 3s a 6 ilu te t ; 34a 6 , d and Sydney 30s to 325. realized Lard Oil is no w - Y ,, i r , 3 t 518 per cwt. Of Spermaceti 3 realized is 7d per lb sl o ths public sale. .„/ lOs 441 10 per tun. A fair busbies hest FOREIGN- OFFICE, JUNE 18, 1852. The Queen has been pleased to approve of Mr. J. B. Were as Consul for the southern coost of New Holland for the King of Denmark. The Queen has also been pleased to approve of Mr. Norris Adams as Vice-Consul at Deal for the Grand Duke of Mecklenburgh-Schwerin. Commissions by the Lord Lieutenant of Nairn. The Honourable John Frederick Vaughan Campbell, Viscount Emlyn, to be Deputy Lieutenant ; Sir James Alex ander Dunbar, Bart. to be Deputy Lieutenant; Arthur Forbes, Esq. to be Deputy Lieutenant; Colonel James K Roberts onet chen to be Deputy Lieutenant ; Major Hugh Murray to be Deputy Lieutenant, June 12. Commission by the Lord-Lieutenant of Linlithgowshire . The Right Hon. John Alexander, Earl of Hopetoun, to be Deputy Lieutenant, June 17. Commission by the Lord-Lieutenant of Perthshire. Royal Perthshire Militia—The Hon. David Henry Murray to be Captain, vice John Andrew Dick, deceased, June 15. WHITEHALL, JUNE 11. The Lord Chancellor has appointed Abel Hyde Shaw ,of Staiybridge, in the county palatine of Lancaster, Gent., to be Master Extrordinary in the High Court of Chancery. BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED. Thomas Wenman, merchant, Birmingham. BANKRUPTS. William Frederick Blackburn, bookseller and stationer, St. George's-place, Knightsbridge, and Motcombe-street, Bel grave-square to surrender July 1, at twelve, and August 5, at half-past eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Bell, offi cial assignee, Caleman-street-buildings ; Hadley and Filder, Gresham-street. Jose Alphonse Thomas, flour merchant, Thavies-inn, Hol born, June 29, at half-past one, and August 5, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Johnson, official-assignee, 13asing hall-street ; Chidley, Gresham-street. Joseph Claridge, jeweller, Bristol, July 6 and Aug. 3, at eleven, at the Bristol District Court. Hutton, official as signee, Bristol ; Hobbs, Bristol. John Fry Reeves, John Frederick Reeves, Orlando Reeves and Archibald Reeves, scriveners, Taunton, July 6 and 27, at eleven, at the Exeter District Court. Hirtzel, official as signee, Exeter; Dommett and Canning, Chard; Daw, Exeter. William Richardso n , merchant, Lombard-street, Jun e 30, at one, and A ug . 3, at t we lve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Stansfeld, offi c i a l ass i gnee ; street, Strand. Valiance and Valiance, Essex- George Rutland, s t raw b o nnet manuf ac t ur er, Falcon square, City, July 3, at twelve, and Aug. 6, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee, .I.3loing" hall-street; Lawrence, Bread-street, Cheapaide. THE ADVAN T , ont IN THE PRICE OF TALLOW. A correspon dent at Bristol intimates that he is wholly at a loss to u nderstand the cause of the late advance in the pr . ic e e of 7' -1111 0 w in the London market. He observes thath . sto c k _,. 25,00etf°°r In the article is unusually larg©. and that greatly . Increased numbers of beasts and sheep have been scfarcity, sthatgttlered for consumption. Now, he must understand result e f i° P r ovement in the quotations is wholly the hous u a Combination on the part of the Russian or five in number —who have held from to n since the close casks, imported on their own account, houses e i'le Close of the navigation in 1851. As the na .; 4 , 41 question have not been sellers for some time ties, th e ` - ;:i l 40 actual supply . of tallow in the market has been sAllim.4 and hence the importers from Australia, South "ea) ece,, have taken advantage of an apparent We will not pretend to argue upon the policy ° th e Russians, but w© well remember the period when great losses were sustained by English speculators, who adopted the system of holding forward until they could r ° no t4 el in : I remunerative price, but which they did not sue s—t''''.,ill realizing. Should the new tallow arrive from .- 'etersburgh earlier than is expected by certain par the Russians will suffer a loss of from 3/. to 41. upon every c fall will be as rapid as the late advance; and i scarcely4ek of tallow they have now on hand, as we need together during nise months, intimate that the expenses of warehouse room, with the loss in we i ght must form serious items in their ledgers. the Tlle GERMANY. In con- Session of the Diet of Saxe Gotha was closed on is the by the GRAND DUKE in person.: The following n 2 a o. principal passage of his address :—" The new which n voted by you has for cement the confidence i ... l eh exists between the Prince and the people ; it can, ""nsequence, bid defiance to the storms of time, whe thert,. suited by the madness of revolution or by the spirits of past times issuing from their tombs. The executio n count Sep tember is tslhished this great work, without deviating from am° county be grateful toyou, in seeing that you have the l aw. ,, A n cc t e r d e e a d ty to o i f i. T S h ep is . 0 T he Assembly of the Burgesses at Lubeck adopted the sequence, the Jews henceforward to enjoy the same 16th all the propositions of the Senate. privileges are . eolls r i: i `ege B as the other cameos, in everything relating to oommerce and manufactures. A. letter from Berlin, in the Indipendance of Brussels, tBnalotiblayetrietiniscinuoewatigoenn.erally believed at Berlin that the a of u r t e h d e , Oldenburg l3 rt 8- On the other hand, h '.! e is remarked, strengthens the position of Prus s i a in l 1 a havingno v eri a the retirement of I3avaria from the Zollverein is however, dered certain. 1 EVYjNING, JUN_E 2 2 18. 52 THE LONDON, TUESDAY COURSE OF EXCIL Amster (1 scu .......•.. 12 0% Ditto, three months .. 12 I N )tterdaro .. • • 12 13 25 57% 11 - ussels • • .. 25 57 y 2 II Qnburgh , ...... 13 104;, A1t0na.......... • • Paris, 3 days'sight .. 25 37% Ditto. 3 months .... 25 57% Marseilles ...... •....• 25 575 Bourdeaux.... riankforton.Maine.. • • 121 Brdin— •• •••••••• •• Vienna, effee. n 0...... 11 56 Trieste, ditto.... •• .. 11 58 Potersburgh •••• .• 87 IA Madrid • • .... 49% Cadiz •• •• •• •• •e .• •• 491 a Barcelona •• •••• •• •• •• Seville,••• •• •• •• •• •• •• LNGE.-(THIS 1) AY.) libraltar..•••• . Leghorn •• •• •• .. •• •• • 30 7 0 4enoa ..•• •••••••••••• 25 65 Allan ••••••••••••••' Venice...••••• •• •••••• N'aples •• .• •• 40% Palermo,peroz•• •• •• •• 1223. i Messina •• •• •• •• •• •• •• 123 Lisbon.• •• •• •• •• •• •• •• 0p0rt0.... • • .... •• . •• Rio Janeiro • • ...• •• •• Buenos Ayres .. ••.. •. New York, 60 dayiesigh t 53 Philadelphia .... • • • . •• PRIORS OP BULLION, PER OZ. Foreign Gold mbar!.. X 3 17 9 Portugal Gold Coin 0 0 0 Spanish Doubloon .. 0 0 0 New Dollars ...... 0 4 10 1 i Silver in bars • 0 5 0 IMPE RIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS, June 21. The report of the Select Committee on the Board , of Cus toms was brought up by Mr. MITCHELL and laid on the table. Petitions were presented against the grant to Ma ynooth, by Mr. Elliot and Mr. Packe ; from the handlootu we. avers of Paisley, complaining of distress, by Mr. Lockhart; ft om the county of Fife, against intemperance, by Mr. Th Drnely ; from women at a chapel in Walworth, for the inspection of nunneries, by Mr. Lacy; from the faculty of procurators in Glasgow, praying that the 18th clause of the Commian Law Procedure Bill might_ not affect Scotland, by Mr. llastie. generally. The proposal, when made, excited a good deal of Jealousy and hostility, both throughout the country and in Parliament, and the present Prime Minister brought forward the subject in this House, not supporting those who then formed the Government, but imputing to them every kind of dishonourable motiv e for introducing that change with regard to education. The motion which he proposed, altogether refusing any power to the Crown to appoint a C ommittee of Coun c il on Ed ucat i on, was rejected only b y a majority of five, and the vote a ft erwar d s propose d b y t h e Government was carried only by a majority of two. How ever, the matter was placed in the hands of the Committee of Council, presided over by th e M arqu i s o f L ansdowne, an d I have the satisfaction of stating that, notwithstanding the jealousy and hostility which were raised to the measure, and notwithstanding the obloquy to whi c h th e G overnment of that day were subjected, not only then but for several years e alousy aft erwards, as to th e i r propos i t i ons, that hostility and that j have been greatly allayed, and by general consent great improvements have been made in popular education in consequence of the appointment of that Com mittee of Council. — (Cheers.) That result is, in a great degree, to be attrib u t e d to the judgment, orbe to , the temper, the discretion, the reso l ution, and th ewere shown by Lord Lansdowne —(Hear, hear)—in arance all w his acts and in all his correspondence with respect to this important subject. He took it up with great zeal, with great determination to further the object contemplated, but at the same time he listened most attentively to all the ob jections which might be made by the various parties inte rested, both by the Established Church, by those who repre sented the British and Foreign School Society, and by various other bodies representing those who di ssent f rom the Established Church.—(Hear.) After a very long series of conferences with the late Archbishop of Canterbury arrange ments were made (of which I am not able to state the exact date), by which inspectors should be appointed, and by which those inspectors should visit the schools in con nexion with the National Society. In 1831 Sir Robert Peel succeeded to office, and immediately although be was one of those who had felt the objections to the original appoint ment most strongly—yet, seeing that by its means the progress of education was in a fair train to be successful, he re-appointed the Committee of Council on Education, and placed at the head of it the late Lord Wharnecliffe. No per son who has filled the place of Lord Lansdowne did so with greater ability, with greater judgment, or with a greater spirit of fairness to all parties than Lord Wharncliffe.— (Hear, hear.) Accordingly, the British and Foreign School Society received grants on terms not dis similar to those which were already settled for the Church of England, and the progress generally made in education throughout the country was still satisfactory. In 1816 other minutes of the Council were agreed to, by which the plan of education was, as I believe, greatly im proved—by which certain gratuities were to be given to the teachers, by which pensions were to be allowed for deserv ing schoolmasters disabled by age or infirmity from pursuing their avocations, and by which the most distinguished of the scholars might become pupil teachers, and supply in a more beneficial way than had hitherto been the case the place of the monitors employed to assist the schoolmasters. In 1847 the Marquis of Lansdowne, in a minute issued in the beginning of the month of February, stated the arrange ments which had been made, and called the attention of the House most pointedly to that subject. Like the change made in 1839, very great opposition was made to the change which was carried out at that time. That opposition was made, however, principally by the upholders of the sy stem of voluntary education, but it was overcome in this House, and since that time I may say that the pro gress of education has been undeniable, and even those by whom objections were then raised have acknowledged that very great advantages have accrued by the course adopted. With respect to the money grants, they have advanced from 20,0001. a year to 150,000/. a year during that period; and with respect to the arrangements made, I think the Church of England have had no grievance to coin plain of as to their share in these grants, for 78 per cent. was granted to schools in immediate connexion with the National Society, or with the Church of England. Arrange ments for inspection were made in such a manner that no inspectors should be appointed to Church schools without the consent of the archbishop, and the inspector might be re moved upon the decision of the archbishop of the province. Arrangements were also made that the reports of these in spectors should be sent to the bishop of the diocese, and there were likewise arrangements that if on any subject relating to religion there was a difference between the committee that should be appointed to manage the school and the rector or curate, the clergyman who had the general superintendence of religious education, that that question should be referred to the decision of the bishop, and that the bishop's decision should be final. I think, therefore, that the Church of England had no reason to complain of the arrangement which had been made. On the other hand, it was very satisfactory to find that there was not on the part of the Dissenting bodies any complaint that the Church of Eng land had so very large a proportion as 78 per cent. of the grant. But, while it was allowed that the inspectors of Church schools should be appointed only with the consent of the archbishop, and while every security was taken that the religions instruction in those schools should be under the direction of the minister of the church and of the bishop of the diocess, those who in the Committee of Council deliberated on this subject made with respect to one ques tion a condition which they considered essential to the work ing of the system. A question had arisen at the time when Lord Wharncliffe was President of the Council in various cases with respect to local committees of management. It had been found, according to the former system, when a grant was distributed by the Treasury, that, after the money had been spent, the arrangements were frequently put an and to, and so the whole cost incurred was incurred for no purpose. It was suggested by the Committee of Council that permanent arrangements should be made by which the committee of management should be permanently established. This committee was to be duly formed according to the population of the place in which the school is situated—in some places it was to con sist of a certain number of laymen, in others of a less num ber, and in some, where it was impossible to find a committee of laymen sufficient to fulfil the duties, the management was left in the hands of the clergyman of the parish. But it was decided that there should be no absolute power in the hands of the clergyman of the parish ; and Mr., now Sir Kay Shuttleworth, in one of his letters, says— are different parties in the Church whose views are exceed ingly different with respect to the moral conduct of this schoolmaster. One clergyman may object that he is toe lax, and that he gives too much recreation to his children! while another may think that he is too puritan ical sna strict. Th ere i s no ground of objection that ca n be takerl _ to a scho o l master t h at may not b e sa id to b e a moral grou n d , and therefore the schoolmaster must at once, under this alteration in the minute feel himself dependent on the clergyman.-(Hear.) This is the first ground of objection to this alteration. I have before stated in this House that it is in my opinion most reasonable that the status of th e schoolmaster should be raised, that he should have a com petent salary. and that hi s soc i a l ran k as an instructor of youth should be recognised and elevated in the view of this House and of the country.-(Hear.) Now, the consequeece of this altered minute is to degrade and lower th e coaditioa of every schoolmaster ; and I was not surprised that some gentlemen called upon me this morning to represent the effect of this minute. They said that not more than thirty teachers in those schools bad been co llected ; bu t that they had no doubt if a meeting bad been adver: tised, there would have been a large meeting of schoola.. masters of the Church of England schools, because they felt that their situation was changed, and that any opimoo on the part of the clergyman to his disadvantage would he once deprive the schoolmaster of his situation, and that a b, would no longer have the opportunity of earning his bre (-; and maintaining his position. There is, it is true, an app to the bishop; but there could be no doubt that the bishop would not, in the majority of cases, go through the particir lass of the complaint, but that he would be disposed take it as he heard it from the clergyman, and that in 19 cases out of 20 he would decide the complaint in accord ance with the previous judgment of the c lergyman.-(H e hear.) That is the first objection I have to this rah-lute' The next objection is that its effect is evidently to weakel3 the influence of the lay members of the local committee. It appears to me to be of the utmost importance to have a _ body of lay members to manage these schools, and that you should induce them to take a part in their management, to watch the conduct of the schoolmaster, and to promote tee well-being of the school. lam fully aware how much atteff: tion the parochial clergymen have devoted to these schools. and that they have, both by giving their money and thief= time to an inquiry as to the best mode of education t he ; likewise im self that take the a l v a e ); respective parishes, very much facilitated the cause of educa tion. Yet I thank it wi ll b e muc h b etter f or the clergYine if! very grmembersent interesto f th eschoolcommittee eh nse o]. (gear, hear.) But if they can be told by the clergyman that moral ground s t h e sc h oo l master i n whom t h e y have c°llt; fidence, whose conduct of his school they approve of, IS - be dismissed, thi s canno t f a il to diminish their motives to exertion, and the lay members will be desired to leave the school altogether in the hands of the clergyman.-(Chee of ts ' ) I think, with regard to the cl erg y man h imse lf , it is e 0 small importance that the laity of the church should C° . operate with him in works of this kind.-(Hear, hear.) the Church of England has its elements of strength, ettu, it has also its elements of danger. lam of o pi n i on th a t its e' e ; ments of strength are very much greater than it s elements o. danger. Its elements of strength are, when it carries with it; the co-operation, the confidence, and affection of the lay mem bers of the Church; and its element of danger is, the being separated from the laity of the church, seeking other 'nestle_ of gaining power and authority, and not resting its p ower cue influence upon that general concurrence of sentiment ott the part of the laity that has hitherto proved its he s " strength.-(Cheers.) v 'The effect of this alteration in the minute is, in my opinion, to diminish the strength and in crease the danger of the Church. Its effect is to diroinie t ' the natural cid:position of the clergy and the laity to tic' together, and to induce the clergyman, by the mere exercire of his authority and will, to direct the education of the people of this country. I think this alteration very objec: tionable on these grounds.-Hear, hear.) But I do 1 10 ..' think it will be very pernicious for some time to come. I, have heard it said that in six or seven years, by the force of this minute, the laity will be excluded from the manag e : merit of these schools. I doubt whether so great an eff e c t will be produced.-(Hear, hear, from the Ministerial benches.) But it is a beginning on the part of a Gove rnment which has newly come to power which owns itself not stro, as regards the present Parliament, who acknowledged t er their position dictated this session measures which w e 7. humble and useful, but who have begun with a measur o education which has neither humility nor utility for its so cha racteristic.-(Cheer a and laughter.) But, if this is the e c ater now, what will the Government do when they have gr nt - r1 confidence and greater power-if the people of this cou _ should give them greater power to proceed further Hear , au alteration of the minutes of the Privy Council ?-(, hear.) Why, Sir, the consequence would be nothing than this, that a series of minutes will be introduced totally destroying the system of popular education as it now ei,e,sE: placing it upon anothe r basis, and thereby endangering.'"_. whole system of education as it has been approved of b by the re' liament and by the country .-(B ear .) Having een c, person who has recom men d e d t hi s system to Parliamen. and who has in offic e wa t c h e d t h e grea ter p begin' ping of its ()Fie!" ., . tions, I cannot but ex p ress m y a pp r ehension at this be ig ning of changes co mmence d b y th e G o vernment in the s ha p e of an alteration of th e m i nu t es o f th e C ou ncil of Education -(Hear, hear.) There was no danger to be apprehended or inconvenience to be feared if the Government had gone n el listening to applications which might be made to them. th e if they had not during the present year changea:_`.. general rules by which these grants had Dee'' made. But no sooner was it announced , and from most important source, that he had had his way on h . T . subject, and that they who had defeated him or' year in the National Society must now yield to a greater au thority-namely, to that of the Government - no sooner wa s this stated by Archdeacon Denison than a general alarm v,:e3 expressed by the members of that society. It was sta ted by some that the charter of the National Education S ociet y had been altered ; that it did not at present give the subscribers powers enough in the election of its functionaries and its committee ; that the committee was unfairly constituted, sad that there must be some alteration iu its elements; that aft appeal must be made to the Crown not to issue the Queen S letter, and that, if it were issued, those who distrusted the present operations of the society must refrain from contribut ing to its funds. Ido not desire to say whether these p!ir ties were right. I only say that this distrust and dissension and division, if it were not caused, was aggravated by the ap pearance of this minute.-(bear.) It is said on the other hand, in the first place, that after all it is but an alternative to the local school committees to choose in what form their own subscriptions shall be given, and under what manage ment they wish their schools to be conducted.-(Cheers.) if so, there would be great force in such an argument; but that is not precisely the case. Take the case of the promoters of a school who, with the assistance of the public funds, intend to maintain it. By means of this permanent trust-deed, or deed of settlement, they have the power I have described as being given by this minute, and that permanent trust-deed will affect all subscribers to the school hereafter.-(Hea r.) It may happen that, in the course of five or ten years, the great body of the subscribers to the school may not wish this management clause to be enforced. But this trust becomes a permanent trust, and the subscribers to the school in all time hereafter have no power to alter it.-(Cheers. ) It is not a case where the local subscribers have year after year: the power to alter the arrangements, but the promoters of the school at the present moment will have the power of deciding in what manner the school is future time shall be carried on.-(Hear, hear.) an' other observation has been made. It has been said that the late Government, with regard:to the Roman Catholic sc hools. made a similar provision. But with regard to that minute upon the Roman Catholic schools, what was conceded to t heof founders of these schools was, that the bishop and pr iests the Roman Catholic Church should conduct the religious instruction of these schools, and decide for themselves what it should be. That is a difference between the Roman Ca" tholic schools and those of the Established Church. But the principles of the Roman Catholic Church are very differen t from those of the Established Church of these realms. ILI the nature of the constitution of the Roman Catholic Churc h I will not now enter; but the established Church consista' not of the clergy alone, but of the clergy and laity. Now this is the point which I think it most desirable to keep la view, and which I think the people of this country will keep in view. -(Cheers.) So long as the church exists they will think that the Church of England consists of th e clergy and laity - (Hear, hear)-and that with regard to 0 , 1 ; these questions of education the clergy and the laity .sboill! together decide. I have stated my views, but this is not question as between one party and another in, this Hou.)e. believe that many Hon. Members who sit upon the oPP ° I I benches think with me with regard to the principles w hic h now support. I believe they think with me that strength of the Church of England does consist in its havit? the support of the laity as well as of the clergy. a nd . I t .; securing the general affection of the people. But, if thfo, ;° the case, I say that the Government of this country ought ' l , be most careful in making any alteration in the wed° in which these grants have been distributed - (Hear, hear) the in suffering the impression to go forth that hereaf ter de pend schoolmaster in all Church o f England schools is CO delle n n upon the will of the minister o f the parish and the Bisu e ri without any interference on the part •of the laity.-(R e3 h r a ' I understand that Lord D er b y h as g i ven an assurance d the grants shall not b e di str ib ute d accor di ng to this altr e be minute until some fresh grant from Parliament sha r l ,,` D a made. That, so f ar , i s a security for the present. that in the interval the matter will be considered by the vernment and by the people of this country, and that T s ', will see how important it is not to disturb a system Whic h ea t been working harmoniously, and which is working gr e w good, and that they will rather maintain those principles seek to overturn them.---(Loud cheers.) Mr. WALPOLE said thatmuch as the House had recently been weighed down by the pressure of business, he was gl ad , n. there was an opportunity of discussing this matter in Pav ment, and he hoped the result would be to remove certain: misapprehensions under which many individuals laboured. the Noble Lora and amongst them, he was bound to say, opposite, the Member for London. Now ' the Noble Lord t Jog to Parliament did not find fault with them for not com . , Th e point they had previously to making this alterat ion Cl als o - but by the are to deal with was the ma nagement c d they were onl rangement under consideration S h rch, what Parliament restoring or giving back to the e chu ho w p amounted to 20,C00/. oa sess. In 1832 the vote had always intended - it 1n 5 1 839 a most material alteration t of the day, of which the Noble was made by the Governnip was a member ; but in c onse - Lord (Lord John Rus t ri) that was created, an arrangemen t queues of the agitation that of the p •Da Council a was come to between the Noble Lord had given bat the Church. The a definition of iv e by the Ores Church, as applied to the Protestant was meant but he an d the Church of R ome • hoped theywo u ld no t disagre e ' that in the pr esent instance, _ear the Chu rc h meant t h e laity we ll as the clergv.-( 1 1. -) An arrangement then Iva; com e to between the Committee of the Privy C ou ncil ail" the Churc h. In a minute of Council it was laid down tha t ther e was to be no interferenc e i n t h e d omest i c government of the schools. It was matter of observation, that during the whole time the Conservative Government remained in office no objection was made to school, but i n 1846, when the late G the grant to a was made by the introduction entire change Government came in, an of the management claim and unless the Church clause s ' they consented to accept those cl were not to partake of one shilling of the gra nt ' (Hear, hear.) Now, he thought the Church justly cotin: plained of these clauses, and contended that they have this uncontrolled management of the schools. If the Govern' ment now resolved that that was what the Church was, ti,en titled to_, he was of opinion, instead of leading to divisions' as the Noble Lord had thought it would, the change wen on the contrary, be productive of harmony in the Chutrctue The Noble Lord had objected to the alteration on h.!. grounds, one of which was, that it would degrade.at!f, schools, and he talked of the separating of the I,Lu e and the clergy in every part of the kingdom. tha t Noble Lord, he was sure, would not advocate anytbin g restrained the free action and liberty of the subject. Ta the that for granted, let them see what was the principle 0 f that change that had been introd uced. The pri nci p le was, con the promoter of every school should have the power to_,Jd stitute these schools as t he y liked, and that they partake equally with other parties in the public re° e h uld ba (Hear, hear.) lie agreed that in such cases car!) e-?„ an y taken that the public money should not be applied .s i- d be, other way than was contemplated by Parliamen t, e s " g reat for himself, would say, that the laity should T:thought, share in the management.-(Hear, hear.) Ad have a however, that any one promoting a school shv fe u entitled to right to come to Parliament and say they ~.) to partake of a Portion of the public Luoney,-.0"'" " On these grounds, their Lordships must finally declare that they cannot consent to permit the permanent constitu tion of the school in so important a matter as the establish ment of an appeal to the bishop of the diocese in matters not relating to religious instruction to be determined by the local subscribers to schools, to the establishment and support of which it is now provided that the State should so largely contribute." That was the decision made by the Committee of Privy Council. Ido not wish to enter now into any discussion with respect to the wisdom of that decision, but it certainly appeared to us to be founded on fair and impartial prin ciples. There has been, however, from that time a great desire on the part of a certain portion of the clergy to over turn that part of the arrangement, and to obtain complete power over the secular instruction of the schools.—(Cheers.) That this portion of the clergy was not a very large one appears, I think, from a statement which was produced, I believe, in consequence of a motion made by a Right Hon. Gentleman whom I see opposite, the President of the Board of Trade. By this document it appears that there had been, I think, about 370 schools which had applied for grants in connexion with the National Society, where the grant had not been finally made, and I think upwards of 80 in con nexion with the Ch urc h of England schools, and out of the 370 there were but eight to which the grant had been re fused, on the ground that they objected to the management clauses; and with regard to the Church of England schools not connected with the National Society, there were but two to which the objection was made. It was obvious ' there fore, that it was not a very large proportion of the Church which asked for this power to be given into the hands of the clergy. At the same time, although it was not a very numerous body, the activity shown by them on this sub ject was exceedingly great. At one time it was recom mended by this party that there should be an agreement between the schoolmaster and the clergyman that upon receiving notice from the clergyman the schoolmaster should, in the course of a week from the period of notice, give up his situation. That would, of course, have placed the whole management in the hands of the clergy; but that course was not, I believe, finally recommended by the National Society itself. At other times various clergy men have proposed alterations in the clauses of manage ment, to some of which there certainly was no conclusive objection, but which were at variance with the general arrangements made with respect to the management of the schools. In this condition the matter remained. Archdeacon Denison had, I believe, proposed some alterations at the meet ing of the National ociety, but his proposal, whatever it might be, was rejected, and the Committee of Council and the National Society remained on the same amicable terms. Well, Sir, things were in this condition, much good having been effected, and agreements having been made with the various bodies who were conducting education in this coun try, and who each had separate reasons of distrust or a wish to carry particular measures of their own, but all these difficulties had been generally overcome when the Noble Lord at present at the head of the Government came into office. I own it appears to me that it would have been wise, considering the difficulties there would be in the first in troduction of this alteration,—considering that, altoge ther, both the Established Church and the various Dissent ing bodies seemed to be satisfied with what had beeen done,—it appears to me that it would have been wise, inasmuch as the Ministry did not profess] to bring forward any but mea sures of urgency, to have left this question so far untouched as only to carry on the ordinary business, to entertain the applications made by the different schools, and not to have altered the general rules. However, such was not the view taken by the Government. They appointed a Committee of Education of the Privy Council, who were, suppose, I com posed of the responsible Ministers of the Crown. Ido not know that there has been any formal document stating the names of that Committee. [The CarAXCELLOR of the Ex- CHEQWCZ...--" The names were published in the London Gazette."] They were, I suppose, published in the London Gazette, but the Government have not in any document laid before this House given the names of the Committee of Education. It appears that they came to a very im portant resolution on the 12th of June. I have stated that up to the present moment, if there is any difference between th local committee conducting the school and the cler gyman with respect to religious instruction, there is then an appeal to the bishop of the diocese, and that he has the sole power of determining and deciding the difference, and, if necessary, the schoolmaster must yield to that deci sion and abandon his situation. But, if there is a differ ence between the clergyman and the committee upon any other subject than religion, then, in that case, it was provided, after a great deal of communication and correspondence with the parties, that the Lord President of the Council should name one of the inspectors of schools, that the s. bishop of the diocese should name a clergyman, if the two should not agree, then a magistrate of the c o o mu t s i should be chosen by them—[ Sir J. GRAHAM-- wn and county t be a layman"]—and that, by these three, or t ' lle d President should be decided. Now, seeing that the Lthe Church of was restricted in his choice to an inspector of were n question i almost England schools, and that these inspectors were of by the every case clergymen, and must be first named a clergyman, archbishop—that the bishop, to us that there and that thus two out of three h a i of the Establiseed Church, lionapoeet rbiautrrearrs were clergymen that cases of this kind was no ground for app unfair the Church as against would be decided with a u nY ed . u . fa l3 r u b t ia it s appeared to the pre by the clergymen appo n inserted a clause which sent Committee of have that this was not security enables other grounds. It was said in enough, and they on of any y n the event of any differences espect teachers to be dismtibeit teacher on account of his or her de ingpihrte, the former distl n sa d l i o struction of the children in religion," an the p, whose decision should be festive or unsound the bishop, mi ee of Education, in the altered appeal shotuldthehectom final. Bu t have inserted the words, "or on oter moral or grounds.re "— (near, hear.) N it • • nplaces theow, is quite clear that t hi s alteration schoolmaster in entire dependence upon the bishop.—(bear, hear.) There can be no doubt as to that, because it depends upon the view which the clergy man takes of what may be " moral grounds" whether he m ay think proper to continue the acholmaster in the charge of the school. It is impossible not to see that these words include every possible objection that can be taken against a schoolmaster. It will be impossible for the schoolmaster to satisfy the clergyman who may wish to remove him. There fs:PE 0 , . S PRIVATE BUSINESS. The Lords' amendments to the following Bills were consi dered and agreed to : Claussen's Patent Flax Company. • Frome, Yeovil, and Weymouth Railway (No. 1). Great Western Railway (No. 1). Liskeard Roads. Il anclaester, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire Railway (No. 2). Stockton and Hartlepool and Clarence Railway, and Hartle- Pool West Harbour and Dock Companies. t, The following Bills were read a third time and passed : x.arl of p E ,_ es, Estate. Howe Estate. t,_w_ .ntstate. g7wrnelpfs Estate. W exler ' , W a arity, We z f er ` t i rbour Improvement (No. I). harbour Improvement (No. 2). Sir W. v ER , PETITIONS. Ireland, p r ,„, i 'ER presented two petitions from places in Di r. G it dd r Vor the inspection of nunneries. MILITIA. county of b 0 ,,,7 13. ' Presented a similar petition from the Dlr. HUME presented gregation against the a petitien from a Dissenting con time and passed. MILITIA_ B l L 'u T aruooth grant. This Bill was read a. 7 -1 On the motion for the third 9T SUSPENSION BILL. readingßlLoLf Colonel SlBTHORp ' this Bill, he believed th e uhe had supported'the blilitia Bill, becauseenrolment of the militia for the def proper en ce of the was neces nsaluryoh disappointed at the ma e n o n u e ntry, but he was very im portant meas ure wa l s awi )r °Posed to rbeinc wh ie ic d h this Secretary at War nsioner an i r lel a The . to we Chelsea pe b . cti ,Le militia which,'v highly 0 Je onwaeole. The militia,h in le his opi nion, wasunder stood the circular rightly,. tt were to be drilled by however, in ba a ions • pensioned officers, not, had no hesitatio • Y held officers, but in squads, and he •ed out then'DT stating that if that were cam militia would be found to be arrangement The exerim a very inefficient body. he ent he was convinced country, and o fdh convinced would disappoint the Government therefore felt it to the ~ e be his duty to warn h ear ) h error they were falling into.—(H ea r, „...--;-• wished again t Sir DE LACY EV.A..NS _ . 0 ~.,3 offers interpolate the Home Secretary with regard . t tu tend to avail °I. volunteer Did Government in themselves of rifle corps. the country these offers which would save h ld be pens% or did decline 9 He sou glad to have a intend to decline them • to that question aye a distinct and positive answer teethe it was .—(flear, hear.) He wished to know also whe , . proposed to 'aeci the cow._ . , ~,.,,„4 1, a t put that clause iil force which authon IMPORT TABLES. Mr. HUME observed that some delay had taken p lace in laying the monthly returns of imports on the table of the llouse, though he understood they had been laid before the House of Lords. He was very anxious to understand the cause of that delay from the President of the Board of Trade. Mr. HENLEY replied, that he was very glad to have this opportunity of replying to the question of the Hon. M'mber for Montrose. He had been extremely anxious to have a distinction made in the returns between steam vessels and sailing vessels, and the returns which had gone up to the Lords without his knowledge were without the distinction to which he alluded. He had kept the returns for the Com mons, that the steam and sailing vessels might be separated, and that was the only reason why the delay had occurred. MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS. A messenger from the Lords brought up the following Bills, to which their Lordships had agreed : Turnpike Trusts Arrangements. Scotch Mills for Flax (Ireland). Monmouthshire Railway and Canal. Kingston-upon-Hull Dues and Docks, without amendment. Eastern Union Railway. Wedmore Road. North-Western Railway. Great Western Railway (No. 2). Wycombe Railway, with amendments. PATENT LAW. Mr. B. COCHRANE wished to ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether it was probable that the Patent Law Amendment Bill would be passed this session? It was of the utmost importance that a decision should be arrived at immediately. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied, that as the Bill had passed the Lords and a Select Committee of the Commons, and as it was fixed for Committee early on the paper, he had very little doubt it would become an Act of Parliament this session. CASE OF MR. MURRAY. Lord D. STUART, in reference to the case of Mr. Mur ray, now lying under sentence of death at Ancona, wished to ask the Government if they had received any intelligence from Rome which led them to suppose their efforts in his be half would meet with any success? The petition of the Eng lish inhabitants of Rome, praying for the remission of Mr. Murray's sentence, admitted his guilt, or at least threw no doubt upon it; but he was induced to call the attention of the Government to that question because he had received letters from Italy from persons who stated their entire belief in his innocence. Lord STANLEY said that Mr. Murray was still confined at Ancona, but that there was now every reason to hope that his life would be spared. With regard to the question of his guilt or innocence, that was one in which he could not give any positive reply at this moment. Ho could only say that both Sir H. Bulwer at Florence, and Mr. Moore at Ancona, were using their utmost exertions to obtain such information on the real facts of the case as might enable them, and through them might enable the Government, to firm a well-grounded opinion whether Mr. Murray were guilty or or L w o o rd ola DU ta D ke L , E a l o - y ST m U ea A s ß ur T es sa to id o t b h t no. At present neither they nor the Government ware in possession of sufficient information to enable them to decide that point. questioneainnexthte to put—(Oh, oh)—was, whether the Government had taken, Mr. Murray's trial, so as tenable public his guilt the to judge of proceedings o a n d guilt or innocence? Lord STANLEY must remind the Noble Lord that he was now putting a question of which he had given no previous notice whatever. The Noble Lord had given notice that he intended to ask what information the Government had re ceived respecting Mr. Murray's probable fate. To that question he had replied ; and he could now only re peat that Government were taking every means in their power to get at the real facts of the case. Further than that he could not say.---( Hear. ) ROMAN CATHOLIC PROCESSIONS. Mr. COGAN observed, that it had been understood the proclamation recently issued here against Roman Catholic religious processions would not be published in Ireland, but he had been informed it was published in the Dublin Ga zette. He wished to ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department if such was the fact? Mr. WALPOLE was not aware that the proclamation had been published in the Dublin Gazette. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said if; was always with great reluctance that he trenched upon the pri vileges of independent Members, but he now put it to the House whether they would allow the Government to pro ceed to-morrow afternoon as well as in the morning with the Government measures.—(Hear, hear, from both sides .of the House.) On looking at the subjects which were to be brought before the attention of the House to-morrow by Hon. Members, he perceived that, though they were all of an interesting, they were not of a very urgent, character. The Hon. Member for Richmond (Mr. Rich) was to move for a Select Committee upon the police force of England and Scot land ; then, the Hon. Member for Westbury (Mr. J. Wi Ison) was to call the attention of the House to the position of the sugar trade; and another notice stood in the name of the same Hon. Member with respect to the trade of Sinde. Now, these were not matters of a very urgent character.—(li ear.) Although the Government were arranging the bu! mess with a view to the consummation which was of all ti iings wished for— (Hear, hear, and a laugh)—there were certain unavoidable accidents, like that of to-night, for instance, and that of last Monday, which raised debates tending to interrupt the course of business, but the importance of w hich no one could question. The motions to which he alltrded, however, were not, he must say, of that nature—(l ea r) and he put it to the House. therefore, whether the Gov ern meet might not take the whole of Tuesday ? Mr. HUME had a motion upon the paper for to-morrow, but, being very anxious for the consummation alluded t a by the Right Hon. Gentleman, be should give it up. Mr. RICH said his observations in moving for a Commit tee would only take five minutes— (Oh, oh )_but was ul ader stood to add, that if it was the wi a sh r of the House he Mould ) not occupy their time.—(Hear Lord J. RUSSELL said the Member for Wes tbury (Mr. Wilson) was not present, but the Hon. Member e Amid, ee under the circumst ances , t o with he was quite sure , agr , draw his motion. Mr. V. SCULL Y, in order tofacilitate the progress of public business, (oh oh I and l a aughter) hd to ask e the Right Hon. G entleman Bill question. He found on the not i ce - pape r that evening a Bill called the Irish Valreation Bill, and no less than 69 amendments were to be proposed. Now, it was a Bill to set aside all p reviou s v aluations in Ireland, and to introduce a new system ; and, seeing that very few Irish • Members were in town, he thought the pre sent was no time to butt d. He (Mr. V. Scully) had abstained from putting any of his amendments sit all upon the paper ; but, if the Bill proceeded, he should feel it his duty to propose some amendments and to make stome short observations. (Laughter.) He wished to know whether it was the intention of the Right Hon. Gentle man to persevere with that B i ll , the discussion of which, he was ure, would delay for two days the end of the session? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, after the menacing observations of the Hon. Gentleman, should cer tainly pause, and if he had reason to believe that the 69 amendments would be pressed, and that two additional days would be thereby lost, he should not press the Bill. The Hon. Member for Colchester (Mr. Hardcastle) had a motion on the paper for to-morrow night, on the subject of church rates, and he should like to have his opinion as to its post ponement. Mr. BRIGHT said the Hon. Member was not present, but he should certainly urge him not to proceed with his motion.—(Hear, hear.) COMMITTEE OF COUNCIL ON EDUCA TION.—THE MANAGEMENT CLAUSES. On the motion that the Consolidated Fund (Appropria tion) Bill as amended be considered, Lord J. RUSSELL (who spoke in a low tone of voice, and was but imperfectly heard) said—lt has been usual, when the votes befoforreth th Government e House in Co tommgive exp la ittee of Sna up- ply are taken; e tions with respect to the vote for education, and my Hon. Friend the Member for Dumfriee (Ur. Ewart) has more than once called on the. Government to ex plain to the House what has been the progress of educa tion, and the nature of the votes connected with educa tion. My Right lion. Friend the Member for Northum land (Sir G. Grey), when he held the office of Secretary of State for the Home Department, made that statement to the House, and last year, during his absence in consequence of in disposition, I stated to the House the sum required, the ap plication intended to be made of it, and the general progress of education during the year. I understand that in the pre sent year the vote has been taken without any particular explanation having been given, and this circumstance is the more remarkable as a minute has been issued of very consi derable importance on the subject of what are called the management clauses. When I took the opportunity, a few days ago, of calling the attention of the House to the altera tion made in those clauses, the minute had not then been placed upon the table of the House, and I stated that I thought it would have been better, considering the import ance of this subject, if the Government had taken further time to deliberate, and had not, after such deliberation, pro posed till "next year any change. The Right Hon. Gentle man opposite (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) then stated that there was no intention on the part of the Government to act otherwise than according to the ordinary course on such occasions; he quoted several precedents to show that miuutes had been agreed upon which were not laid imme diately upon the table of the House ; and he declared that nothing at all unfair or dishonourable was intended towards the House. Now, I am quite willing to the question as it stands; I don't wish t o revive that part of it. 'The Right Hon. Gentleman stated what I have said, and I accept his declaration that he did not intend to apt with any degree of concealment towards this Horse in preparing the minute u p on t h e su bj ect o f this change. ties But, Sir, the subj ec t i s o f so muc h i mportance that I think it is desirable the attention of the House should be turned to it before the dissolution of Parliament.— (Hear, hear.) In calling the attention of the House to it, it is necessary that I should refer for some minutes both to the general proceedings which have taken place upon this sub ject of votes for education, and likewise to the particular subject of the management clauses, with regard to which the alteration has been made. The House will recollect that after some 20,0001. or 30,0001. had been voted for several years, from 1832 to 1839, for the purpose of aiding education by giving assistance to the National and the British and Foreign School Societies, it was proposed in 1839 to rte i the members of the Privy Council a Committ ee whest4" Id be undertake the application of any grants which -shou grafts' under made by Parliament , and should divide th ose in such a the superintendence and supervision of P arliamen t,the people o manner as might tend to promote the education t Fr Cc tic thi sequ on I geth well, incot for a awa3 by tl Sil that arbit and 1 Mr the NI word the al Lion, Sir fence U❑de turth Th alters great the I Wout sessic 13-us TT, eid?r, Th Or 11, GAVE