The Sun. — London, England, 1835-05-22 00:00:00

WESTERN DISPENSARY. the twenty-fifth Anniversary Dinner of this excellent In slitution took place yesterday at the Freemasons' Tavern. There was a very numerous and respectable attendance ; and in the absence of Lord Bexley, who was prevented by a prior engagement from presiding, the Chair was taken by Charles W. Hallett, Esq., one of the Vice Presidents of the Charity. When the cloth had been removed, and " Non nobis Do- Illi „, ° e" sung by the professional gen tl e m e n present -1 Ai he " CHAIRMAN gave—" Th e Ki ng ," th ree times three. r—,God save the King." Queen." " The Princess iViieetoria, and the rest of the Royal Family.” n His Majesty King of the Belgians, the Patron of the Charity." " The Army and N avy ." The CHAIR NIAN-Gentlemen, in connection with the nest toast, it is necessary for me to offer a few observations upon the subject of our meeting this day. Among the many noble and ch ar i ta bl e institutions by which this metropolis is distin guished before all the cities of the world, there are none that accomplish a greater extent of good, in comparison with their means, than Dispensaries.—( Hear.) It is true we have nume rous hospitals, and valuable establishments they are, and in our °yin district we have one which is certainly an honour to the city :4 ' Westminster, and reflects great credit on those concerned in in its management. But it is impossible that the Hospitals Can afford accommodation to all those who seek relief in so extensive a metropolis. lam sure it will not be thought th at I am wishing to detract from the merits of Hospitals, and P a rticularly the Westminster Hospital, with which I am so In timately c onnec t e d, an d i n th e success o f w hi c h I am so d e ,ePIY interested, if I say that there are some points in al lude Disp ensar i es p ossess a d van t ages over H osp i ta l s , an d I particul ar ly t o th e sma ll num b er o f p a ti en t s w hi c h tile f armer can accommodate, in comparison with the number of I P a a t t t i e eL S who receive medical advice and assistance from tile Hear, hear.) There is another advantage which "L'is,Pensaries possess, for while the others give relief to patients who are inmates, the Dispensaries give attendance and relief to the sick poor at their own homes, which the Hos- Pitals do not.—( Cheers.) There are many cases in which it Is essential that patients should not be taken from their homes i:"^ r nany cases in which a sick husband should not be removed r ° o l the care and affection of his wife—a child from the attention of its first nurse, its mother--or a mother from !_er child ren. —( H ear. ) B ut t h ere are a l so ot h er cases i n which th e pat i ent s h ou l d h ave a ll t h e com f orts and conven i ences or a public hospital, and not be subject to the precarious at tention or assist ance w hich th e y can p rocure i n th e i r wre t c h e d ra crowded lodgings. 'Thus these two institutions work to same end by different means, and both have an equal claim n the public support, and the exertions of those connected IA them. Having said thus much of dispensaries generally, ss anl sure I may add that the Western Dispensary is the best its kind—( Che e ri n g)—that its d e t a ils are admirable -I's general management excellent—and its funds administered Ptliciously and economically. I regret that these funds are lmited, and that the institution at present stands in need of 4 ; IWe do not think it right to solicit subscriptions indivi- ZIY from th e gen tl emen p resen t w h o h ave ki n dly a tt en d e d to dinner, but the Secretary is in attendance, and will be glad Mea nwhile, any subscriptions or donations that may be offered. w ea nwhile, Gentlemen, I beg leave to give you " The estern Dispensary, and may its prosperity increase with its usef ulness."—( Loud cheering.) N s ' l r• W. EVANS begged to propose the health of a Noble- C . ," who wa s a s i ncere we ll- w i s h er o f th e Ch ar ity, and who on many occasions displayed his munificence towards it. h e regretted that circumstances which he could not controul std prevented them from being honoured by his Grace's pre :nee, but he had sent them with his usual liberality a splendid t j: ri ation 50/. He would give them " the health of his Grace to e__Duke of Buceleuch. the President of the Institution."... :teat cheering.) 10 , 11 % Wools observed, that it was a just source of pride gratification to Englishmen, that among the many elee -o,llary intitutions by which the capital of Great Britain was b i nguished, th ere w ere some whose title page was engraved I_he names of some of our nobility, and many which could of a kingly pat ron.—( Hear, hear.) From the highest o l i l lmk down to the humbler, but not less valuable supporters these institutions, all were united in endeavouring to pro , the objects of the charity with which- they were con j V ied, and to realize the wants of their poor and suffering beeetur.en• He was about to propose . to them the healths of Vice_ Presidents of the Western Dispensary ; and although ; th w as aware that wealth was never more honoured, or rank 34 4 talent more elevated, than in presiding at the anniver thrY dinner of a charity like the present ; still he thought te nder them their thanks, and testif , y their gratitude to those gobl einen who occasionally condescended to attend their anni- Loal? meeti ngs .—( Ch eer s.) They had the Right Hon. d Bexley, Lord Henley, Lord Melville, and many other 40 lemen and Church dignitaries ; and though last, not least, M Point of wort h an d efficiency, they had Mr. Charles Wm. Cheers.) The presence of that gentleman would it t i e t ,: ( ent him (M r . W oo d) f r om dilating upon his merits, and• hi hou gh he had neither Right Hon. before, no M. P. after ~.1 1al 'ne, the friends of the charity were not less sensible of li g ," ‘ o rtb, nor less grateful for his exertions.—(Great cheer g•) He He would give them "Lord Viscount Melville, and the he r Vice-Presidents of the Institution." vrr. HALLETT begged to return thanks on behalf of the Its e e Presidents. He regretted that Lord Bexley had not I : a nded their dinner, but he was satisfied that nothing but s o l t .YPeculiar circumstances had prevented his doing so. He ` highly flattered at having his name associated with the ti her distnguished Vice Presidents, and he should be at all ,z'es ready to promote, by every means in his power, the Fro_sperity and us e f u l ness o f t h e institution.--( Cheers.) Mr. LINDEMAN, the Secretary, then proceeded to read the tepgirtr oTfutohmeAssubcascorciptions received, which was loudly cheered. EANE would take the liberty of proposing It t tr ai toast t vvhich h e was sure would be received with enthusiasm. been justly observed that the public charities of that izropolis exceeded those of all the other parts of great Bri otcr nay, ho would say that they exceeded those of all the 0 cities of th e world. He thought also that the females t...lhettir anxiety to exceed e d i n th e same propos iti on a ll o th er s, i n to sympathi se w ith th e di s t resses a nd alleviate the Bringsif of their fellow countrymen and women.—( Hear.) e vi dence had not b een already fully satisfied upon that head the of the last week would have convinced him. ;V i car, hear.) He had lately attended a public meeting, object o f which was to relieve th e wan t s an d promote th e creationt of our fellow-countrymen in a foreign colony, and of 4 4 e ... large assemblage that filled the Hall on that occasion, it Z e ly five -sixths were ladies—( Loud cheering)—all taking th "ve part in assisting by their presence and their purses n ecessities of their countrymen and women, although in a 40'tant land.—( Renewed cheering.) When he found them e h il eerfully assisting to relieve those at a distance, was it s ss e ,r'sing that th e y s h ou ld c ome forward to promote the inte (A: °f a charity lik e th a t th e y w ere now met to celebrate ? I )l4 P ` la use.) But a few weeks since he ( Sir T. Cochrane) 411 attended a large meeting in that room to advocate the tti tu S e. of the Westminster Hospital, another most valuable In- Isith tl°o , and he had on that occasion expressed his sentiments Or, r espect to the present one, which he considered as a sort s s Zrollary to it. The Dispensary took up what the Hospital We r e not attend to—it provided fur the wants of those who it sp hy the regulations inadmissible to the other. It was a sp o i l t Means of o p reventing the poorer classes from being thrown Pte, th e Hospitals, as it in a manner anticipated disease, and tai ei n ted by timely relief that protracted suffering which they th e O therwise undergo.—( Hear, hear.) Whatever might be ,rnerits and claims of other institutions there was no doubt of stisf 4-111 :s of the present—its object was to afford relief to real '1 0 4: 41 g, for no person would fsig,n illness or neglect his Th o and his family, for the purpose of taking medicine. k 4 Ge, could be n o imposition, therefcre, upon the charity, Var ita 'ni a was one o f i ts grea t p ecu li ar iti es , an d o f its chief ad debt g s e s• To the exertions of the ladies they were much in flesteu; and the least they could do was to acknowledgs the 4iv gratitude they owed to them. Ile should therefore (G e se ' e rn---" The Ladies Governesses of the Institution."— ,at Cheering.) 047 CHAIRMAN, in proposing the next toast, expressed the Is t ecation h e f e l t i n announcing t h e name o f a gentleman 1 . 4 t eet er he felt the highest esteem, both in his private elia bi,,r and in hi s p u bli c ca p ac ity as Treasurer of the Western !ibirnsary......( Applause.) They were all aware haw valu- I ts 'p it Was to the interests of a public institution to have as )It4 Tr a gentleman so well known, and whose character its , s t s i . ~s u ffieient guarantee for the judicious appropriation of ;ohr s -4 " 8.-- ( Cheers.) That duty, he believed, could not de- Kr a UPOrl a more upright and honourable man than Mr. th e °• who se h ea l t h h e begged to propose.—(Continued I l ~ert? 6 ) nr, . A t . e toast, was drank with great enthusiasm. t oas n : - e.v.ssrs returned thanks. He felt grateful for the warm alf, r ,ja which his health had been drank, and he should be 'lts ass 'eles most happy to afford every assistance in his power tio s , - 's promoting the objects of the charity ; and any exer 11, o f his had been amply repaid by their kindness.-( Cheers.) insti, e CHAIRMAN said it was well known that the charitable tio` n tinns of the metropolis were much indebted to the exer the O ff the Clergy—they were useful not only by giving the their pulpits, but they were also the channels of much le bounty. Cheers. th h e Dean and_ Chapter of Westminster, and the Clergy Th e united p ar i s h es ." took k h e Ism Mr. JENNINGS returned thanks. The Clergy 2 1 t1: ° Merit to themselves for any exertions they had made e a,.use of charity, for they considered it a part of their hen tie spoke the sentiments of his reverend brethren cif stated that the present charity had done a vast deal V° With very li m i te d means.—( Hear, hear.) eatit,,next toast was " the Bishop and Clergy , who have oc lea, k r. '4 adv ocate d t h e cause o f th e C_harity. Mii s h It.tsAmsoN proposed " the health of the Chairman," il l _ w as recei ve d w ith grea t cheering. i C HAIRMAN briefly returned thanks. kr.ii e Churchwardens of the united parishes." ..r.,,,oirry returned thanks. 'Ai; "Con, after some complimentary observations upon the Thene Media zeal of the genemen to whom he alluded, gave brl Officers of the Institution." T he returned thanks. 41,:e Stewards." aho k. tit h alf -past ten the Chairman retired, and the company ,i, h 3 afterwards broke up. e 4Ar et° was some excellent singing during the evening, by eiee B roadhurst, Hudson, &c. 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CLOSE OF THE POLL, SECOND DAY THURSDAY, MAT 2 . 199 . 174 Hon. George Byng Air C. Grant Majority for Mr. Byng 25 The greatest exertions have been used to defeat our majority of yesterday. One voter in behalf of Sir C. Grant was brought up in custody of the gaolers, and there is every reason to believe money has been flying pretty smartly this morning. Indeed the number of vehicles passing up and down the High street, gave all the appearance of a county election. From the exertions made by the opponents of the Hon. G. I3yng, it is evident great importance is attached to the result; and it is such as may fill every lover of Toryism with dismay, while it will cheer the heart of every friend to good order, and wise and liberal measures. ELECTION PETITIONS. (From the Votes and Proceedings of the House of Collinlo7lS ROSCOMMON COUNTY ELECIION. House informed, that the Select Committee, appointed to try and determine the merits of the Petitions of Thomas John stone Barton, Hugh Barton, Robert R. Duke, John Irwin Henry Fry, and Caleb Robertson, electors of the county of Roscommon, complaining of an undue election and return for the said county, had determined— That the O'Connor Don is duly elected a Knight to serve in this present Parliament for the County of Roscommon. That the said Petition did not appear to the said Committee to be frivolous or vexatious. That the opposition to the said Petition did not appear to the said Committee to be frivolous or vexatious. HALIFAX BOROUGH ELECTIOIV. And no parties appearing in the case of the Halifax Elec tion, orders for considering petitions of Joseph Nicholson and others, and Jeremiah Rawson and William Craven, read, and discharged. COURT CIRCULAR. The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, attended by Baro ness Ahlefeldt and Sir James Reynett, honoured the Arch bishop of York with their company to dinner on Wednesday evening, at his residence in Grosvenor-square. Their Royal Highnesses, accompanied by his Grace, afterwards went to the performance of ancient music at the Hanover-square Rooms. The King and Queen left the Palace at St. James's shortly before 7 o'clock on Wednesday evening, on their return to Windsor Castle, escorted by a party of Light Horse. His Majesty gave audience before leaving town to Eard Cawdor. The Landgravine of Hesse Homburg, attended by Sir Henry Wheatley, honoured the performance cf La Sonnani bula, at the King's Theatre, on Tuesday evening, with her presence. The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Princess Au gusta of Cambridge, attended by Baroness Ahlefeldt and Sir James Reynett, and Prince George, accompanied by his pre ceptor, the Rev. Mr. Wood, went yesterday afternoon to the fete champetre in the Regent's-park, in aid of the Royal Dis pensary for Diseases of the Ear. The Princess Augusta and the Duchess of Glocester visisted the Duchess of Cambridge yesterday. Messrs. Nielson and Walker, from Canada, accompanied by Mr. Gillespie, had an interview yesterday with Lord Glenelg, at the Colonial-office. Viscount Morpeth visited Viscount Melbourne and de Chancellor of the Exchequer yesterday. The Cabinet Ministers dined with Lord Glenelg on Wedne day evening, at his residence in Great George-street. All the members of the Cabinet, except Lord Holland, were present. Lord Holland joined his colleagues during the evening. The Lords of the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council sat yesterday in the Council Chamber. There were present the Vice-Chancellor, Lord Commissioner Bosanquet, the Right Hon. Sir J. Vaughan, Thomas Erskine, and Sir Alex ander Johnston. The Hon. Wm. Bathurst was the Clerk of the Council in Waiting. The appeal from Bombay, argued at a former sitting, was resumed. The case of " JephQon v. Riera" ( Gibraltar) was afterwards commenced. The further hearing of this appeal was adjourned at the rising of the Court at four o'clock. The grand ball in aid of the funds of the Yorkshire So ciety's School will take place this evening at Willis's Rooms. WINDSOR. MAY 21.—Prince Esterhazi and suite took leave of their Majesties yesterday morning, and departed for town. Shortly after the departure of his Excellency the King and Queen, attended by Lady Clinton and Sir Herbert Taylor, left the Castle for St. James's Palace, whenee they returned in time for dinner yesterday evening. The King took a drive in his phaeton this morning, and visited different parts of the Royal domain in which improve ments are carrying on. In the afternoon his Majesty again drove out, accompanied by Lady De Lisle. The Queen was out on horseback, attended by the usual suite. On Wednesday next their Majesties will go to town, and are expected to remain there till the end of the week. Wednesday there will be a Levee, and on Thursday the Queen will hold a Drawing Room, in celebration of his Majesty's birthday. On the return of the Court to Windsor much company is ex pected, who will remain till after the Eton Montem and Ascot Races, the former being on the 9th and the latter commenc ing the 14th of June. OXFORD. MAY 20.—1 n a very full Convocation, holden this day, it was proposed to substitute at matriculation, a subscription to the following Declaration, instead of the usual subscription to the Thirty-nine Articles, as heretofore : " I, A. 8., declare that I do, so far as my knowledge ex tends, assent to the Doctrines of the United Church of Eng land and Ireland, as set forth in her Thirty-nine Articles ; that I will conform to her Liturgy and Discipline ; and that I am ready and willing to be instructed in her Articles of Re ligion, as required by the statutes of this University." Upon a division taking place, the Senior Proctor declared the majority to be adverse to the change. The numbers are reported to have been as follows : Placet Non Placet 459 The successful candidates for Dr. Johnson's Scholarships, are— Theological— Henry \Voollcombe, B. A., Student of Christ Church. Alathematical—Nicholas Pocock, B. A., Michel Scholar of Queen's. CHURCH OPPRESSION. ANOTHER SEIZURE FOR CHURCH RATES I TO BE SOLD BY AUCTION, By some .Auctioneer yet unknown, on SATURDAY, May 23, 1835, at the Golden Lion Yard, College Land, St. Mary's, Manchester, AN EXCELLENT BAY HORSE AND HARNESS, worth Fifty Pounds:, seized for CHURCH RATES amount ing to One Shilling! also THREE PIECES of BEAVER TEEN, seized for CHURCH RATES amounting to 13s. 81-d. The Public are respectfully informed, that the above have been seized fur Church Rates allffred to be due to the Parish of Prestwich ; the former from Mr. James Buckley, M'Do nald's-lane, and the latter from Messrs. Grundy and Carr, Bank-buildings, both in Manchester. REFORMERS, FLOCK TO TUE SALE and, by your presence, show the Churchwardens of Prestwich, that you will not permit the most populous town in the king dom to be irritated and insulted by being made the battle-field for opposing the exactions of neighbouring parishes. The Sale will commence at eleven o'clock precisely. General Lord Hill's Levee at the Horse Guards, yesterday morning, was attended by—Lieut.-General Sir G. Walker, Major-General Napier, Colonel Munro, Lieutenant General Goldie, General Milner, Major-General Sir John Brown, Major-General Sir Wm. Gomme, Major-General Pigot, the Earl of Mansfield, Colonel Burke, Major-General Carey, Lieut.-General F. Wetherall, Colonel Sir H. Watson, Major-General Sir Wm. Eustace, Colonel Moore, Colonel Higgins, Major-General Sir Jas. Bathurst, Major- General Sir Chas. Pratt, Lieut.-General Sir H. Cnmming, Colonel Sir H. Pym, Sir John Hay, Colonel Hay, Colonel Bell, Major- General Sir J. Macleod, Colonel Lindsay, Colonel Campbell, Major- General Sir Jas. S. Barnes, Lieut.-General Sir Thos. Dallas, Sir H. Halkett, Major-General Wardlaw, and about eighty other distinguished officers. TUE KING'S TFIEAiRE.—Grisi had her benefit here last night, and a house which attested her popularity in the most unequivocal manner, as it was full in every part, even up to the top of the gallery. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent, the Princess Victoria, and his Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge were amongst the audience. Bellini's opera, “ I Puritani," was produced on the occasion, and was well calculated to display the various excellences of the fair Prima Donna. The libretto of this opera is of about an ave rage merit, and rather gives opportunities for fine acting, than in itself developes a powerful dramatic action. On the whole it went off most successfully. At the fall of the curtain La porte came forward and announced that it would be repeated on Tuesday night next, by the command of her Majesty. FETE CIIAMPETRE.- - -The beautiful gardens con tained within the inner circle of the Regent's Park yesterday presented a scene of unusual gaiety and animation, the Di rectors of the Royal Dispensary for Diseases of the Ear having succeeded in obtaining from the proprietor their use on the occasion of the annual grand fete champetre in behalf of the in stitution's funds. The gardens were opened at one o'clock, and between that hour and six (when they closed for the even ing) they were densely crowded by company of the most select and fashionable order. The band of the Life Guards (which attended, by permission of Colonel Lygon) alternated with Collinet's French corps d'orchestra in enlivening the scene with some of the best music of the day ; while the Hungarian singers, MM. Reich, Rosan, Kraus, and Kaln, added to the effect by singing some of the most favourite national melodies. At about four o'clock the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, accompanied by their family, visited the gardens. Within a few minutes to six the Royal Party (after partaking of an elegantly-arranged collation) took their departure, and shortly after their example was followed by the elite of the visitors. The principal fete will take place this . day. wh en i t i s rumoure d her Nlaesty, accompanied by the principal members of the Royal Family, will be present. THE SUN, LONDO:Nr, FRIDAY, MAY 2,2, 1835, IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, MAY 21. The London and Croydon Railway Bill was read a second time and ordered to be committed. Several witnesses were sworn to give evidence before the Committee on the Bill. Lord L YNDHURsT presented a petition from Mr. Spur rier, a solicitor of Birmingham, against the Bill for establish ing a Branch Railway from Birmingham to Liverpool. ISLINGTON MARKET BILL. Mr. HANDLEY, and other Members of the House of Commons, brought up the Islington Market Bill, which was read a first time. Mr. Campbell, from the East India House, presented an account of compensations to the Officers of the Company. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY brought up the report of the Committee on Conyer's Divorce Bill. MOORE'S DIVORCE BILL. Counsel were heard, and witnesses examined on this Bi which was read a second time, and ordered to be committed. CHURCH OF SCOTLAND. The Marquis of BUTE presented petitions from Cornwall, praying for further means of endowing the Scotch Church. Lord MELBOURNE also presented similar petitions from parishes in Aberdeen. PROTESTANT PETITIONS. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, that seeing tho Noble Viscount at the head of the Government in his place, he wished to give notice that on Tuesday next he should present a petition with which he had long been charged, signed by 50,000 Protestants of the North of Ireland. He gave the notice in order that any Noble Lord who might wish to do so should have an opportunity of ex pressing his opinion upon this most important petition. He (the Marquis of Londonderry) trusted by that time, the Noble Viscount would have had such information from Ireland as would enable him to state something definitive with respect to the procession which accompanied the Lord Lieu tenant on his entry into Dublin--( Hear, hear)—and also to state whether his Excellency had taken any steps to put a stop to such occurrences in future. Lord MELBOURNE had no objection to the Noble Lord presenting the petition ; but considering it had been drawn up upwards of six months ago, it might have been presented earlier. He was ready to give any explanation that was re (;wired, on the subject of the Lord Lieutenant's procession. From all he had heard he did not think that anything had taken place which was in the slightest degree illegal, or which was liable to the observations that had been made.—( Hear.) Nothing had taken place which, from the excitement, and the %umber of persons brought together, might not naturally be ex pected. With respect to the banners, the account respecting them had been extremely overstated; as far as he had heard, nothing was done which infringed any Act of Parliament. There was nothing in the slightest degree illegal, or exceeding the fair license allowed to persons on such an occasion. Lord WICKLOW-- - --The Noble Viscount basing stated those facts upon information which he had received, they were decidedly bound to believe him, until they could adduce evidence to the contrary effect.—( Hear, hear, hear.) If as the Noble Viscount states, there had been no proceeding on that occasion of an il legal nature, then lie would say that greater false hood or more gross fabrications had never issued from the press of any country, than had issued upon this subject from the press of Ireland.—( Hear, hear.) It appeared a most extraordinary circumstance that newspa pers should dare to promulgate such facts, if there were not just grounds for them. But the Noble Vis count having stated, upon evidence, that there were no grounds for any such statements, they were bound to believe him, until sufficient evidence was produced by some Noble Lord, or any other individual who had been an eye-witness of these proceedings, and who would be enabled to state what he saw. He, therefore, would say no more upon this subject, but he would take that opportunity to trespass for a very few moments upon their attention, for the purpose of doing justice to an individual who conceived that he was aggrieved by what had fallen from him on a former day.—( Hear, hear.) Upon that occasion he alluded to a circumstan ce , an d then stated that he had no authority for his state ment but the public press. He said that the Solicitor General for Ireland had attended a meeting, and was present at a toast, or sanctioned it by his presence, or, at least, did not notice it with disapprobation.—( Hear, hear, hear. ) He ( Lord Wicklow) stated at the time that th e newspapers were the only ground for his believing in this circum stance, and also that it had received no contradiction from the Hon. Gentleman alluded to. On that day he had re ceived a letter from the Hon. Gentleman, in which be stated that he had felt much hurt at his ( Lord W's) statement. The let ter further said there was no foundation for the statement—that no such toast as that referred to had been given in his presence. He ( Lord Wicklow) had the greatest satisfaction in making this statement. The Honourable and Learned Gentleman, how ever, had fallen into two errors; -in the first place, he con ceived that he (Lord W.) had given publicity to this case, and secondly, that he had brought it as a charge against him. Now he (Lord Wicklow) had alluded to it as a statement to which publicity had been already given, by its having appeared in several Irish papers, and in a paper of the greatest circulation in this country, and also the best conducted. (Great laughter, and cries of " Order.") It seemed to him that the Honourable and Learned Gentleman considered that he (Lord W.) had brought forward the circumstance as a charge. Now he ( Lord W.) conceived that there was no charge in stating that the Honourable and Learned Gentleman advocated any certain measure.—( Hear.) On the contrary, if the Hon. and Learned Gentleman was friendly to a repeal of the Union—if he was one of those, and there were many of them who considered that that measure would be beneficial to Ireland—it would indeed be a charge if he concealed these facts, and did not state them manfully and openly, for it is no charge to advocate any mea sures if they are advocated manfully and openly. It there was any charge it was made against the Government, who h a d appointed a m an th e a d voca t e o f th ose measures which they con sidered most injurious to a high and responsible situation. starid, - or was going back. He - said that such a state of things on examination would be found not justified by fact, and events had verified his (Lord Brougham's) estimate. He was now able—he was now in a perfect condition by the returns which were laid on the table, to make a calcu lation—not of the increase of education from the year 1818 to the year 1828, but from the year 1828 to the year 1834, not as regards the returns from 487 parishes, but from 33 counties, commencing at Bedford and ending at Suffolk—both in cluded, and containing a population of 10,110,000 souls. The consequence was, that more than two-thirds of the population of England and Wales were indicated by this estimate. If that calculation agreed with the average he had before given, he would confidently assert that his allegations, as to the in crease of education, were perfectly correct. He would not trouble their Lordships with the details on which he founded this statement. He begged to refer their Lordships to the returns on the table, and there they would see the particulars of the result which he would now proceed to state. In the 33 counties which he had mentioned, including also Lancashire and Middle sex, containing a population of 2,700,000, the whole population amounted to upwards of 10,000,000, a number something more, as he bad already stated, than two-thirds of the population of England and Wales. Instead of 478,000 children educated by voluntary contribution, the amount exceeded 900,000, for in the 33 counties alone which he had mentioned, the whole number of children receiving education was 1,144,000. This was not less than his calculations, but it was more— and why was it so ? Why, for the most satisfactory of all reasons—more than five or six years had elapsed, and consequently an increase had taken place, so that now it was greatly more than doubled.—( Hear, hear.) He would not detain their Lordships with any details of those documents further than to state, that the increase of unendowcd schools had not been similar to those that were endowed. One conclusion followed from this with irresistible force, that wherever you have such a mass of schools—wherever you have such means of education as those which were already afforded—where you have such means of instruction as was already furnished by the parents of the chil dren themselves, and by the contributions of enlightened indi viduals, a fund sufficient to educate 12,000,000 individuals—it was obvious that great care ought to be taken before any interference took place with respect to a system that was going on so prosperously; and persons ought to be careful how they put their hands on machinery that had such rapidity in its movements. He knew well the difficulty of ob taining the continuance of subscriptions which public zeal had originally set on foot ; he knew that was the case, especially where it was over a narrow circle and a particular neighbourhood ; and he knew also that where the benevolence, zeal, and goodwill of individuals had done so much, nothing could be more dangerous than to allow any individual to say that he would give no more subscriptions, because the County had taken it all up on itself; but a tax-gatherer came for the school rate, and it would be soon found that the voluntary assessment of persons by themselves would vanish altogether ; and instead of having an increase of education, it would fall off almost to nothing, and that magnificent establishment which had been raised for instruction would be swept away altogether. It must therefore be apparent that no general and sys tematic interference ought to take place—( Hear, hear)--- but, in saying this, he begged it to be understood that he was very far from thinking that nothing remained to be done. He thought that schools were too few in number, that there were too few scholars taught, and that those who were taught were not young enough ; and in the third and last place the instruction communicated to them was scanty and im perfect. He was prepared to prove those propositions by facts, but before doing so, he would call their Lordships' at tion to the unequal manner in which education was distributed. He would take the two counties in which education was at the lowest ebb—while the average of all Eng. land was one twelfth—that was while in all England there was education for one out of every twelve of the popu lation—the average in the two great counties of Middlesex and Lancashire—those two counties in which from public policy and public morals—for in tlih case they were the same—in those two counties where, for the safety of public morals, educa tion should be of the very best description, and most open to all, it was lamentable to find that it was at the very low est ebb —in those two counties in which there were greater masses of people gathered together than in any other part of the country, it was truly lamentable to find that the average was so exceedingly low. Their Lordships might suppose that the case was better in the large towns, and that the deficiency was in the country parts of these coun ties ; but he was sorry to say that the case was not so, and that it was in towns where the deficiency was greatest. In 1818 the average in Lancashire was only education for one in 15, while in the county of Middlesex the case was still worse—it was there one in 24. Now, the case was altered for the better in Middlesex.—that county had made more rapid strides in the march of education.—( Hear.) Now the average in Middlesex was one in 13-, or near 14, while Lancashire was nearer the 14 than it. Now what was the lamentable result—in great towns—though London, Westminster, Southwark, and other towns in the country were better provided—still there was a lamentable deficiency of the means of moral instruction. He was then clearly of opinion, in which he was borne out by the Report of the Education Committee—that the safest and best course which Government could take for the purpose of promoting education was, that they should apply themselves to the institution of schools in great towns where the means of education were still scanty, and to apply those means, so as not to interfere with the education now afforded by means of voluntary contribution. It did not re commend that 2001. or 250/. should be granted in Oldham, Marylebone, or other places, to provide a schoolmaster, for that would have a tend enc y t o c h ec k th e su b scr i pt i ons of pri vate individuals. The great difficulty in the establishment of a school was in procuring the capital to erect the building. That difficulty it was proposed'to meet, not by saying, " We will give you the 1001. or 1,0001. required to build your school house; but if you will subscribe a certain sum, we will grant you the rest." This was the principle acted upon by the Church Building Commission, and tended to encourage rather than to depress the exertions of individuals. This safe and obvious course was also adopted by the Government in distri buting the grants of 20,0001. v'oted by the House of Com mons in the years 1833 and 1834, and he was happy to say that the manner in which it had been bestowed had produced all the results anticipated by the promoters of the plan. It had occasioned the establishment of hundreds of schools, and the subscription of thousands of pounds to the purposes of education, which, but for the aid of the Government thus afforded, would never have been de voted to the public service. He hoped the consequence would be the removal of all difficulty in the way of obtain ing this year a larger grant, to be disposed of in the same manner. The next proposition he should take the liberty of stating was, that the public schools, few as they were, were established for children of an age too advanced. He consi dered the establishment of what were now called infant schools to be one of the most important improvements, he was going to say, in the education, but he ought rather to say, in the civil policy of this country, which the age had witnessed. No man who had the least experience of these admirable institu tions would have the least hesitation in adopting this proposi tion. Whoever knew any thing of the talents, habits, and characters of children, must be aware that long before seven Years of age, the age at which children were usually sent to school, they were perfectly capable of instruction. But that man had only half learnt his lesson whose experience had not taught him more than that—whose experience had not taught him that a child was much more capable of learn ing before than after six years of age. His faculties were more acute—his attention was more lively—his memory more retentive—and his habits less decided than they were after that age. A child under six years of age is neither listless nor idle—neither indolent nor vicious, but is by nature an active, inquiring, curious, and learning little animal. From two years of age a child was in a state of constant learning ; and so strong, so persevering, so irrepressible was the curiosity which predominated in his mind from two till six years of age, that he would venture to say he learnt more during those four years, even when he did not go to school, and more of' what was useful to him in after life, than he did in all the after part of his progress, though he might live to be a philosopher of eighty. We were so accustomed to the use of the knowledge acquired at that period of our lives, that we were apt to forget its vast amount—that it, in fact, compre hended our acquaintance with all the objects of external sense. Take that knowledge away, and leave a man with only what he might have learnt as senior wrangler at Oxford, and he would be the most ignorant being on the face of the earth. At present, however, as education was generally con ducted, this happy period for making impressions upon the mind which would never be effaced, not only passed without children learning what they ought to learn, but in the acquirement of what was absolutely pernicious. Now, but too frequently, listless, unlearning,, vicious, and obstinate habits were formed before the child was seven years of age. It would be superfluous to show the de grees of advantage in preventing this evil which bad at tended infant schools wherever they had been established, both in this country and in France, which had followed our example. It was seventeen years since the first infant school was established in Westminster, and it required only a short walk from that House for their Lordships to satisfy themselves of its beneficial effects, not only upon the children, but upon their parents in its neighbourhood. The same good results might, he had no doubt, be produced in other large towns. He might be called speculative, sanguine, and theoretical, but he had moved amongst such epithets all his life, and always found that although, like the air, they surrounded him, that they offered little resistance when pressed against. He would say, therefore, that he considered the establishment of infant schools in large towns, 'where crimes were numerous, because people there flocked, there bred, and there reared criminals, as the true, the genuine, and, with the greatest deference to his Noble Friend (Lord Denman), the chief Criminal Judge in En g l an d , h e wou ld say as the only effectual means of pre venting ( Hear, hear, hear.) He knew that some trusted to the gallows ; that some who were reclaimed from trust in the gallows, trusted to transportation ; that those for whom the transport ship had no charms placed their faith on the Peni tentiary, and that those whom the unwholesome situation of the Penitentiary disgusted, were prone to look to the treadmill and solitary confinement for two weeks. All had gotten into their heads one sentence, which had been repeated till people had forgotten to inquire into its truth, viz., that punishment operated by deterring offenders from crime, and that, there fore, it was good to punish by the gibbet, by the transport-ship, by the Penitentiary, and by the treadmill. Far be it from him to say that the gallows should be abolished, that criminal judges should sit no more, for although he thought the course they pursued did not do much good, their abolition would do much harm. But it was incredible how little this criminal law did in the way of preventing crime. Ali persons who had written upon the subject assumed that when a person was making up his mind to commit an offence, he was calculating the amount of punishment with which it would be visited, as a merchant calculating the chances of profit against his risk, or the farmer, if he ever calculated at all, calculated the ef fect of a fall in the price of corn upon the rent he should pay. That was the first error these several classes of reason ers fell into ; but there was another just as fatal. It was as sumed that in making this calculation, the mind of a criminal was in the same calm state as the minds of those who were legislating upon his case; but such was not the fact.— ( Hear, h ear .) A man who had lost his money at the gaming table, should have calculated before going there ; but having lost all, his mind was not in a state to con sider that to-morrow he should be bankrupt, should be dis graced in the eyes of his gaming companions, if he did not commit the forgery or the robbery that would put him in funds. The numberless chances against his escaping the gallows or the convict-ship never entered his calculations, or if they did, his mind was not in a state properly to estimate their value. Could any one doubt that the greatest crimes, those which it most behoved society to prevent, were com mitted in a state of fury in which reason was prostrate ? Since, then, punishment was thus inefficient in repressing, let them consider whether there was not an effectual means of preventing crime. The schools in which boys of seven to ten years of age attended showed, as far as they went, conso latory results; but he wanted schools in which the character might from the first be formed upon virtuous principles. He trusted much to habit, which in all ages the lawgiver, as well as the schoolmaster, had found was to be relied upon. Make sobriety a habit and intemperance would be hateful ; make prudence a habit and reckless profligacy would be as contrary to the nature of a child as the most atrocious crimes could be to their Lordships. It was not the upper or the middling classes in large towns that supplied the gaols of the country. It was not even the class immediately under the middle class, that of the artisans, of the journeymen mechanics, among whom were to be. found the most respectable, the most ingenious, the most skilful, the most industrious, and the most valuable members of the community. The source of the evil was to be found in the lowest and most ignorant part of the population of large towns. All the classes to which he alluded were exceedingly desirous that their children should be educated. He had the satisfaction to declare that he had never seen a single individual belonging to those classes (and they were classes with which various circumstances had af forded him the opportunity of great intercourse), even the individual the least instructed himself, who did not feel and express the strongest desire that his children, and more espe cially his youngest children, should have the benefits of edu cation. As an instance of what might be done with compa ratively small means in the establishment of infant schools, he would mention the case of a legacy of between 7,0001. and 8,000/. which about ten years ago had been left for that purpose. It was not carried into effect, because a case having been laid before Sir Anthony Hart, it was the opinion of that learned person that the circumstances were such as might subject the executors to a suit in Chancery; but an inquiry had been made into the extent to which the fund, if it were so ap plied, would go, and it was ascertained that it would provide infant schools sufficient for a parish the population of which was no less than 150,000 souls. He had no doubt whatever that if the system of infant schools were extended, the result would be an improvement in the morals of the people to a degree and with a rapidity which probably but few persons anticipated. At present our prisons were filled with hundreds of thousands of what were called juvenile offenders ; children eight, nine, or ten years of age ; human beings naturally in nocent, and who only by accident became violators of the law. But when these children had served their noviciates in prison's, among experienced and confirmed criminals, they came forth fit for any act of villany or outrage. If for such seminaries of ruin infant schools could be substituted, he confidently pre dicted that more would be done for the eradication of crime than by any other course which could be adopted. Other schools did some good, certainly, but it was very little ; and nothing could, generally speaking, be more absurd than to call what was acquired there by the name of learning or instruction. It was seldom better than a species of indolence or inactivity; and nine out of ten of the children came out of these schools knowing little more of that which was worth knowing than when they entered them. Of this fact all who were ac quainted with those schools, with the boys educated there, or with the masters by whom they were educated (ill educated themselves, and knowing nothing whatever of the art of teaching), must be fully aware. The Noble and Learned Lord proceeded to read a statement of the num ber of children at present educated in infant schools in different counties of England; by which it appeared, as we understood, that in Lancashire only one child in two hundred and ten re ceived instruction • in Cheshire, only one in t w o h un d re d an d twenty-one • in Derbyshire, only one in t wo h un d re d an d s i x , &c.; and that in Cumberland, Westmorland, and other nor thern counties, there were no infant schools at all. Before he proceeded any further be would say a word on the frequently repeated assertion, that as education increased crime increased. That he denied. It did not follow that because the number of punishments increased, the number of crimes increased. Among the individuals convicted of offences, were, as he had already stated, a number of juvenile offenders, who, being sent to prison for a month or six weeks, came out accomplished villains. If these children had been At an infant school, they would have been chastised by the master, and in all probability reclaimed. There was an almost invariable connection between crime and ignorance. It appeared upon examination that in the well-remembered years of incendiarism, 1830 and 1831, of seven hundred pri soners (and be it recollected that they could not be deemed the worst species of offenders), only one hundred and fifty could write their names. Of the boys committed to New gate not a third could even read. In the Refuge for the Destitute only one in thirty or five and thirty could read. An active and intelligent magistrate of the county of Essex had stated that of the poor fellows who were brought before him, not one in - ten could write; the rest were only able to make a cross. It was evident, therefore, that the connection between ignorance and crime was most intimate. In the year 1817 it appeared that in France only one child in thirty-five was edu cated. The discovery of this fact so stimulated private indivi duals, who were aided by the French Government, that in less than two years the proportion was reduced to one in twenty-eight. In 1819 the number of chi!dren receiving education was one million and seventy thousand. In Holland, according to the celebrated Cuvier, there were schools for a hundred and ninety thousand children, be ing about one-tenth of the population of the country. In Wirtemberg the children were educated out of the church funds. In Denmark there were school -rates; as also in Bavaria and Saxony. In Russia, so sensible had the Go vernment become of the necessity of educating the population of towns, that schools had been founded for that purpose. In Sweden not one out of a thousand of the population was uneducated. In France he had himself witnessed the great improvements which had taken place in education. There was now hardly a corner of that country in which there were not normal schools—schools for the instruction of teaeleses. In Nassau, in Wirtemberg, in some parts of Ault: la, in Baden, and other places of the Continent, ncrmai schools had been es tablished ; and in none of those instances were they content with the miserable dole of instruction which was to be ob tained in the popular schools of this country. In addition to reading, writing, and arithmetic, the scholars were taught geography, geometry, some branches of natural history, and drawing--one of the most improving and useful exercises for the humbler classes, than which nothing gave them better means of acquiring precise information, which was an agreeable occupa tion for them in their intervals of work, which tended to the pre servation of innocence and sobriety, and which (if any ques tion of mere profit and loss could be mentioned with such considerations) was calculated materially to improve them in their several occupations as workmen. He admitted that when he had asked at some of those schools if the scholars were not allowed to learn a little civil history, he was told that that was discountenanced, if not altogether forbidden. They were allowed to study the history of a moss, of a stone, of a rush, of a weed ; but they were not allowed to study the his tory of their own country—they were not allowed to inquire what had been done by theirf orefathers—they were not allowed to learn all that was most valuable for human beings to know. Civil history, indeed l Why that would tell them of privi leges invaded, of rights denied, of promises made under the dread of foreign invasion, broken as soon as the danger was ended; of the dethronement of one usurper, merely for the purpose of changing him for another. Civil history! Why it would tell them of what had occurred, at least in their neigh bourhood, within a few years ; it would tell them of an inno cent, a virtuous, an unoffending people, overrun, conquered, and enslaved, by Governments that now allowed their subjects to study mosses. It would tell them that the very Bibles and Liturgy which their Kings commanded them to read, were profaned by having been used in thanksgivings in temples for the success of the •atrocities of those Kings. It would tell them of monarchs, whose broken pledges were thousands in number—of monarchs who counted the years of their reign by violations of the rights of their people—of mo narchs who conceived that they hat lost a day, if—in that day—they had not committed a crime.--( Hear, hear. ) It would tell them of a monarch of whom it had been said, that he never went to bed without having first perpetrated some crime or cruelty. Reverting to the immediate subject before the House, the Noble and Learned Lord observed, that his proposition would not have the effect of striking down any of the excellent establishments which at present existed. As a proof of their usefulness, he would mention one at a very small distance from that House, in the Borough-road, which he had been induced to visit ; and certainly a more extraordi nary spectacle of the progress in obtaining information which might be made by children, he had never seen or heard of at any place, in any country, or at any time. It was perfectly wonderful how the human faculties could at so early an age be cultivated to so marvellous a degree. A dozen or two of them were asked such questions as what was the interest of 5351. 7s. 4d. ? They were not allowed any time, and their an. swers were as correct as they were immediate. They were never puzzled in any case of calculation but one, and that was a case in which he should himself have experienced difficulty. He repeated, that he had never witnessed a more extraordinary exhibition. Among other things, he saw a boy take a slate, and, without any copy, but solely from memory, trace upon it the outline of Palestine, marking all the variations of the coast, the bays, &c., inserting all the principal towns, and adding their ancient as well as their modern names. Now all this was real, substantial knowledge. It would be infinitely advantageous if in London five normal schools- were esta blished, for the purpose of instructing teachers, not only in knowledge, but also in that of which they Were mainly ig norant, the best modes of communicating that knowledge to children, the best modes of operating upon their minds, and forming their habits. These normal schools would speedily supply five or six hundred able and accomplished masters, from whose labours throughout the country the most beneficial consequences would soon result. It might be said that there were already great funds existing for the purposes of education, and it naieht be asked why, there fore, the public p urse s h ou ld b e drawn upon ? The answer was, that some of those funds were diverted from their le gitimate object, and that others were abused and inefficient. There were cases in which the- trustees of bequests's foe education were hampered by the nature of the trust. It fses quently occurred that the powers of trustees of' that description were limited, and that they were thereby prevented from cob. forming to modern wants, and could not be released from those limits even by the Court of Chancery. There were indivichials who thought that they would confer a great benefit - on their neighbourhood by leaving estates to found grammar schools. He had one in his recollection—a case in which an estate of the value of three or four thousand pounds had been left to establish a grammar school in a large ma nufacturing town. Now it appeared that in that town Et grammar school was not necessary, but that a COMItOI school in which reading, writing, ciphering, an d mechanical drawing might be taught, woul be very benefi c i a l ; but it was found to be impracticable to change the application of the fund. The only remedy would be to extend the powers.ol the trustees by Act of Parliament. Many persons had, in former times, thought that they did great good_ by the. este blishinent of foundling hospitals. They imagined that such institutions would prevent child-murder, and diminish the illi cit commerce of the sexes. In the last century it was believed that nothing would . temrso much to decrease immorality as the planting of a foundling hospital in every parish. That delusion had, however, long ceased to exist ; the funds of these hospitals had been otherwise applied ; and the name alone of one of them was retained. Adverting to the foundling hos pitals in France, the Noble and Learned Lord observed that on being shown one of those establishments, with its revolv ing boxes, its bells, its comfortable cradles, &c., he had re marked that it. was one of the most perfect nuisances be had ever seen. England had of late years much advanced in civi lization in that respect, and had put an end to institutions which were productive of the most serious evils. He had re ferred to foundling hospitals for the purpose of proving that the original gift of lands was made for the establishment of these institutions. Though the moneys were originally invested with a view to the maintenance of such establishments only, and although hundreds of thousands of pounds were expended for their support, still Parliament did not hesitate to interpose its authority by directing their funds towards the attainment of an object different from that which they were at first in tended to promote. Parliament had the self-same right to interfere in every other case where a pernicious application of the funds of any charity had taken place. The proceed ings of Parliament, from the Act of Elizabeth with regard to charitable uses to the Acts passed during- the reigns of George 111. and George IV., had recognized the right, duty, expediency, and perfect justice—withont showing the least disregard to the rights of property or the rights and interests of the poor—of legislating with respect to these charitable funds as if they formed a portion of the public property. Now he found that in many of the schools which had been endowed (and he alluded more particularly to those of small endow ments) many mischiefs had resulted, not in consequence of the children who were admitted to them receiving wholesome, innocent, useful, and practical instruction, but through the expenditure which was made for feeding and clothing these children. He would just refer to a few instances in order to show what large sums of money were squandered worse than usely in the distribution of the thuds of these endowed schools. The funds for endowed schools in Middlesex were, in 1819, 31,0001. a year, and the number of children educated at them did not exceed 2,260. The funds for a similar purpose in London, amounted to 84,0001. a year, and the number of children was not more than 1,630. In St. Paul's (a day school) the regular charge for each pupil was from 151. to 201., besides other items, which made it amount to a larger sum. There were 195 children within the walls of the Foundling Hospital, arid is many more out of doors, the expenses for each child being 451. a year. If an appeal were made to those who had the management of some of these institutions to which he had referred—to those, he meant, who had no sinister object to promote in the continuance of such establishments— who had no purposes of rival tradesmanship to answer, who were removed by their station and rank above the suspicion of any jobbing views—he was convinced if such men were asked calmly, and in a kind and friendly spirit of conciliation, they would prefer to see three thousand children educated (and that in the best manner) to giving but an imperfect education to thousand children, and supplying them with subsistence and clothing. In what he had said respecting the mode in which the schools to which he had referred were conducted, he wished to be understood as speaking of establishments of small endowments. Whether in all cases these institutions should be interfered with in such a manner as would alter the application of their funds, was a question involving considerable difficulty, and into which he would not then enter. At all events, that these establishments should be scrupulously and rigorously watched over, that the trustees should be repeatedly called on for an account of the disburse ment of their funds, and that they should be made aware, that although there might be no Commissioners of the Charity in being, still that there was to be invested, either in a body of Commissioners, or in the principal Secretary of State, a power of making strict conditions with the school masters of these schools, and of dismissing those masters upon a breach of such conditions—that, he repeated, such a controlling power was necessary, and that the want of it had occasioned the ruin of the hest endowed schools, or, at all events, perverted their funds from the purposes for which they had been granted, was a proposition so clear, that he did not feel called on to consume their Lordships' time in dwelling upon any proofs in order to sustain it. He knew from his experience in the Court of Chancery, where cases bearing upon the question to which he intended to call their Lordships' attention had come under his consideration--and he had been also made aware of the fact 'by his previous knowledge upon this subject, that there were many day_ schools which were intended to afford useful instruction to the poor, but from which, though the poor .child was not actually excluded, though the door was not flung in his face as' he attempted to enter, and although the master of the school. never openly and undisguisedly flew in the face of the duty which he' owed to its thunders, still he was permitted co vertly to work its ruin (as far as the intentions of those who endowed it were concerned) by the reception of a number of respectable boarders, who, being unwilling to mix with those who ought alone to partake of the benefits of the establishment, increased exactly in proportion to the diminution in the number of the poorer class of scholars. It was not wonderful, under such circumstances, seeing That the master had a direct interest in lessening the nun - seer of his poorer scholars, if he treated these children with perhaps bare civility, but never with kindness—if he behaved towards them in a harsh, unfeeling, and rigorous manner, the inevitable consequence of which was, that the blame was frequently thrown on the boy, which should be visited on - the master...._ (Hear, hear.) He knew of the effect produeeri by this sys tern in some instances which bad (erne ueder his observation, for in the course of three neenins, whilst he sat in the Court of Chancery, four or five eases had been submitted. to him, in e - 11:e:i the foundation had dwindled down from 180 pupils to one tr two. The rents of the premises was paid as punctually as - ever—the accommodation for scholars was as good as when the endowment had taken place—all the expenses of the school were defrayed—but all the benefit derived from it accrued not to the poor but to the rich, and the interest of the master seemed to be alone consulted.—( Hear, hear.) Such abuses, and even much worse than those upon which he had touched, must continue, whilst the master was allowed to hold his situation without condition, and without the clear and un doubted power being invested in some responsible body, of enforcing a compliance with those conditions upon which he undertook to discharge the duties of teacher; for although the power of compelling him to perform his duty might now exist, still no man was anxious or willing to interfere, because it was not the business of any one to do so. He had now con cluded the observations which he intended to address to their Lordships, and which bad much exceeded the length of time which he meant to occupy in their delivery. It was his wish to conclude by reading to the House a series of resolutions, embodying the topics on which he had touched ; and as they embraced a variety of views, he was anxious th a t th ey s h ou ld be printed and considered by their Lordships, before he made any distinct motion on this momentous subject. He would now read these resolutions : "I. That although the number - of schools;v,here7some of the elo mentary branches of education are tang 7 nt, has greatly increased within the last twenty years, yet th , ..re still exists a deficiency of such schools, especially in the 14. - etropolis and other great towns, and that the means of element: a y instruction are peculiarly deficient in Middlesex and Laricashe. 2. That the kin, of education given at the greater number of the schools now t*,stablished for the poorer classes of the people, is of a kind by no means sufficient for their instruction, being for the most Paft- confined to reading, w r iti ng , an d a little arithmetic ; whereas, at no greater expense, and in the same time, the children ,night easily be instructed in the elements of the more useful branches of knowledge, and thereby trained to sober, industrious, prudent, and virtuous habits. " 3. That the number of infant schools is still exceedingly defi cient, and especially in those great towns where they are most wanted for improving the morals of the people, and preventing the commission of crimes. " 4. That whilst it is expedient to do nothing which may relax the efforts of private beneficence in forming and supporting schools, or which may discourage the poorer classes of the people from contributing to the costs of educating their children, ►t is incum bent upon Parliament to aid in providing the effectual means of in struction where these cannot otherwise be obtained for the people. " 5. That it is incumbent upon Parliament to encourage in like manner the establishment of infant schools, especially in the larger towns. " 6. That. for the purpose of improving the kind of education given at schools for the people at large, it is expedient to establish in different parts of the country, seminaries where good school masters may be trained, and taught the duties of their profession. " 7. That there are at present existing in different parts of the United Kingdom, funds, as well real as personal, to a large amount, given or bequeathed to charitable uses connected w;th education; but which, partly for want of objects in the particular places to which such gifts are confined, partly from want of proper powers in the trustees—partly from other defects in the foundations, have become in many instances unavailing to the purposes for which they were originally intended, and are now productive of very ina dequate benefit to the country ; while from want of publicity, abuses frequently creep into the management of them, only to be remedied by tedious and expensive litigation. " 8. That in order to superintend thc just and due application of the funds from time to time voted by Parliament for the promo tion of education, to establish the proper seminaries for training teachers, to encourage the trustees of charities connected with education, to watch over the abuses of trusts committed by such trustees, and to control the exercise of such new powers as Parlia ment may grant, that it is expedient that a Board of Commissioners be appointed, with powers and duties to be regulated by Act of Parliament. " 9. That it is further expedient to give such a Board a pow er of filling up the numbers of trustees, when these have fallen be:tow the quorum, in any will or deed of foundation, subject to the ap proval of the special visiter, where there is one, and to aul:h or i ze, subject to like approv a l, th e sa l e , mortgage, or exchange ni any pro perty given to charitable uses connected with education, for the promotion of the objects of the foundation, as far as these may be. &Tined beneficial to the community. " 10. That it is further expedient to give such Board a power, subject as aforesaid, of directing the Trustees of any Grarr.inmr School where the funds are deliciQin, to apply such part tlicrcof NATIONAL EDUCATION. Lord BROUGHAM rose and said, that according to the notice he had given, he rose to submit to the House certain resolutions upon the subject of education.—( Hear, hear.) —He thought there could be but one of inion upon the necessity of education, though there might be a difference of sentiment as to the mode in which it was to be afforded. In calling the attention of the House to a subject of such deep importance and universal interest, both to the governors and the governed of this country, as education, he thought he need hardly preface the observations he had to make—he need hardly bespeak their attention to a topic of such vast concern. It was unfortunately true that he differed from the majority, perhaps a very larg,,, majority of their Lordships in political opinion.—( H ear.) He entertained his own opinions conscientiously —he en tertained the same opinions now that he ever entertained —their Lordships might entertain their opinions, for while they allowed him to entertain his own, he would not fi n d fault with those of others.—( Hear, hear, hear.) He hoped that, upon a question of this sort, it would not suffer, because he was its advocate, from the contamination of party feeling ; . but that their Lordships would consult upon it, with a view to general principles. He was, however, much afraid that the cause mi g h t suffer in his hands. He knew that there were many who did not listen so much to the character of the subject, as to the character and habits and con- nections of the persons who presumed to handle They regarded more the wrongs of persons—they attended more to the wrongs of persons than to the rights of things; therefore it was that he claimed for this subject that particular consideration which the question itself was so entitled to. In 1818, the Education Committee, whose labours were very exten s i ve an d va l ua bl e , s t a t e d there were, inde pendent _of Sunday schools, day-schools capable of edu. • - - eating 644,000 c hild ren ; o f these 166,000 were in structed in endowed schools, and 478,000 in schools supported by voluntary contribution.—(Hear.) That showed what proportion of education was afforded t.) the poor. Of the six hundred thousand that attended those day and Sunday-schools, only one half paid for their education, and the other half were educated by charity. Of course the children would not learn much in the Sunday schools—they could not be taught to read, to write, and to cypher, as in day schools, but it kept them out of harm's way : he did not mention this out of disrespect to the motives of those excellent individuals who patronised Sunday schools, or taught in them, but because he preferred the daily to Sun day schools.—(Hear.) No returns had ever told which children had attended Sunday schools only, and which had. attended day-schools alone, so out of the 644,600, for aught he knew, 500,000 might be comprised in those who attended both day-schools and Sunday-schools. At least three-fourths, but more commonly four-fifths, of the whole number belonged to other schools as well as Sunday-schools, so that they would commit a great error ifthey added the two together. Ten years after 1818, he sent 700 or 800 circulars around to differe'nt parishes, from which he received 487 answers, but be considered that too small a number to justify him in building an average upon. He chose the parishes indifferently out of each county regularly, the number according to the size. The House would take the various descriptions of parishes in cluded in that number, and he would hold that the 500 answers that had been returned to the circulars referred to al ready by him, afforded a sufficient ground for the average he had then stated. The result of that calculation was —for he would not trouble their Lordships with the details— (there having been 50,000 children in the unendowed day schools in 1818, which in 1828 had encreased to the number of 105,000) that an increase of 5 per cent. had taken place. When he stated that he confidently believed that education had increased in England in the proportion of 478,000 to one million one hundred odd thousand of male unendowed scholars, or rather to the amount of nine or ten hundred thousand—( Hear, hear)—he was positive that his calculation was not beyond what the data he had in his possession justified. He did not enter into this opinion alone, but he was joined by a few of the men with whom he had been in the habit of acting. But this was not generally the case—for one universal shout was raised against him by the advocates of parochial schools as ti) the imperfectness, or rather the falsity of the data whereon he grounded his statement. Learned professors, clerical gentlemen, expert and experienced calculators, alleged that though the average was correct in 487 parishes, it diA not follow that in the other 11,000 parishes 'education had made equal progress; on the contrary, it was asserted that in these parishes education, instead of advancing, was stationary, or had retrograded.—(Lo u d cries of ‘‘ Hear, hear.") In vain he urged that it was out of the question to argue that education in 487 parishes, taken at random, had been advancing in the proportion of fifty thousand to 105 thousand; and, that in all the other parishes it had been at a arl of