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Branch, 154,000/.; Leeds Central station, 80,0001. ; or a total share capital of 887,0001. The directors propose to fix the amount of each new extension-share at 251. These shares will of course be credited with the 3/. 105. already paid up on the scrip. The directors will make application to Parliament for power to pay a preferen tial dividend at the rate of 6 per cent. on the capital called up on the extension shares when the original lines are opened for traffic. The directors expect that the line from Leeds to Thirsk will be opened throughout before the next half-yearly meeting. The accounts to the 30th of June showed that 1,346,5091. had been received, and 1,323,531/. expended, leaving a balance of 92,978/. The CHAIRMAN proposed the adoption of the report, and made some observations on the principal points mentioned therein. Mr. J. GOTT seconded the motion. In answer to a question from a SHAREHOLDER, The CHAIRMAN said, that the amount of any call upon the preferential shares for the purpose of the works for which those shares were issued, would be very small previous to the application to Parliament for power to grant them a preferential dividend. The motion for tbo adoption of the report, after some further discussion, was carried. Mr. APPLEBY proposed a resolution to the effect— " That no calls be made on the preference shares until Parliamentary sanction for giving a preferential dividend of 6 per cent. had been obtained." Mr. EARP, of Derby, seconded the resolution, which was carried. The CHAIRMAN proposed— " That the subscribers fully approve of the proceed ings which have been taken by the directors with respect to the Clarence Amalgamation Bill introduced by the Clarence Company in this session of Parliament, which was formed upon terms of purchase that had not been sanctioned by the shareholders in this company, and which was pressed forward without the consent and contrary to the desires of this company and its directors; and especially they approve of the act of the directors in presenting a petition to the House of Lords against the Bill, under the seal of this company, as necessary to protect their interests." _ _ - Mr. W. W. 131;;; seconded the resolution, which after considerable discussion was carried. The CHAIRMAN next proposed— " That notwithstanding what has passed, and in order that there may be no ground of complaint against this company by any parties, the directors be required, if the opportunity should be offered, again to enter into treaty with the Clarenee Company for the purchase of their property, provided that such treaty be placed upon a fair and safe footing ; and that it distinctly be understood and agreed that any arrangement or agreement for the purchase of that property requires the sanction and con firmation of a special meeting .of the Leeds and Thirsk shareholders duly convened." This was seconded by Mr. N. CASH, and agreed to. The meeting then entered on the consideration of the provisional agreement with the East and West York shire Company for the purchase of their line at 6 per cent., under the power of an Act passed during the pre sent session. A protracted discussion took place, which ended in a resolution being carried by a majority of 411 to 297 votes, for th© postponement of the question, but in the meantime the directors of the Leeds and Thirsk Company to have power to find working stock, and work the railway as far as it is at present completed upon terms to be agreed upon with the directors of the East and West Yorkshire. EXETER AND EXMOUTH RAILWAY. The fifth half-yearly ordinary general meeting of the shareholders in this company was held on Monday at the otHces, Bedford-circus, Exeter. Mr. E. WOOLMER. chairman of the board of directors, presided. In opening the proceedings he remarked that, althotigh it was called the fifth half-yearly meeting, it was virtually only the first; for, as the 37th clause in their Bill prevented their Act from taking effect until after the Exeter, Yeovil and Dorchester line should ob tain the royal assent, they had not before had a regular meeting. Owing to the great opposition evinced against that Bill by rival companies, that Act, which was before Parliament in 1846, only received the royal assent a few weeks since; and, therefore, up to the present time the company (Exeter and Exmouth) had been in a state of abeyance. When the monetary pressure came on, the dir,-ctors thought it expedient to introduce a Bill for the purpose of extending their powers and postponing the purchase of land, as they did not deem it expedient to proceed with the works while railway property was at so low an ebb: which Bill, he was happy to say, had passed both Houses of Parliament; but as soon as the directors deemed it expedient they would proceed with the works. The SECRETARY (Ur. Cleach) read the following re port:— " The special Act for the construction of your railway received the sanction of the Legislature in 1846, but, by the 37th clause, the powers of the Act were not to begin to take effect until the Exeter, Yeovil, and Dorchester Railway Bill, then before Parliament, had passed either in that or some future session. Such have been the pro tracted deliberations of Parliament, and such unparal leled opposition was evinced by the promoters of com peting lines, that it was only a few weeks since that the restrictions on the exercise of the powers under your Act of incorporation were removed by the royal assent being granted to the Exeter, Yeovil, and Dorchester Railway Company's Bill. Upwards of two years have elapsed without the possibility of any active measures being taken for carrying out the undertaking, and referring to the depressed state of railway investments, which would further retard any immediate operations, your directors introduced a Bill into Parliament this session for ex tending the powers contained in your Act, with a view to postpone as long as may be found convenient the out lay of capital in the purchase of land, or the construction of the railway. This Bill has passed both Houses of Parliament, and only awaits the royal assent. " Your directors have to report that they are prepared, in accordance with the 7th clause of your Act of Parlia ment, to pay interest at the rate of 4 per cent. per annum, which has accrued on the deposits from the date of pay ment to the 30th of June, 1848, being at the rate of 2s. 4d. per share. " The financial account was as follows:—Receipts 17,1671., expenditure 9,1321., leaving a balance in hand of 8,035/, " The outstanding liabilities are chiefly those incurred in passing the Act of the present session, which we ven ture to hope will not exceed 7001." The CHAIRMAN moved the adoption of the report, which was seconded by Mr. W. H. S. GEORGE, and car ried unanimously. Some formal resolutions, fixing the salaries of the offi cers, were passed, and a vote of thanks to the Chairman and directors for their services was proposed and unani mously agreed to. CORNWALL RAILWAY. The half-yearly general meeting of the shareholders in this company was held at Truro on Saturday. Mr. J. T. Treffery, chairman of the board of directors, presided. The CrLußsixsr, in opening the proceedings, re marked that the directors had deemed it expedient, for the present, to suspend all works upon the line; this step was rendered nGcessary in consequence of the diffi culties of obtaining money without paying an exorbitant rate of interest, a course which the directors conceived not to be warranted in the present condition of railway property. .Ir. BOND, the secretary, then read the report, which stated that " the directors of the Great Western, Bristol and Exeter, and South Devon Companies had withdrawn the Bill empowering them to contribute additional capi tal to this company, in consequence of the depressed state of the money market; the directors had deemed it right to give directions for the suspension of all fur ther operations by the contractors for the present. The land for seven miles and a quarter of the line had been purchased, and satisfactory progress made in the works which hal been under construction. Measures were about to be adopted for the enforcement of calls now due, and it was anticipated that the amount arising from this source would, with the balance in hand, be sufficient to cover outstanding liabilities. The directors, since March last, have declined to receive the sum voted to them. They hope shortly to prosecute the works with renovated vigour." Appended to the report was the balance-sheet of the company, from which it ap peared that the total receipts up to the present time were 193,9951., and the expenditure 173,6551., leaving a balance in hand of 20,3401. The CHAIRMAN, in moving the adoption of the report, said he was to happy to inform the meetint4 . that all fur ther opposition to the Cornwall Central Line had been rendered unnecessary by the withdrawal of that scheme; that opposition, however, had cost the company up to the present time nearly 100,000/. _ In answer to a question fronia SHAREHOLDER, The CHAIRMAN said, that to continue to carry out the works on the most moderate scale, it would be neces sary to keep an engineering and office staff almost as ex pensive as would be required if the works were prose cuted with the greatest ardour and speed ; and that therefore it had been thought the most prudent and the most economical course to suspend the contractors' ope rations altogether with one or two trifling exceptions. The report was then adopted. Mr. GOB would be glad to know if there were any other liabilities beyond what might be met by the 20,000 f. in hand? The CHAIRMAN observed that the accouats were made Up to the 30th of June, since which period fresh ties had been incurred; but he had no doubt that the b d nae.ant to in h an d and the arrears on calls would be suffi cient e o_rt all li a bili t i es. on Mr. NEB. 'wished to know w h a t amoun t was d u e Mr. BOND said, the arrears amounted to 22,0001., namely, on 5,5 34 Mr. COTMER z y up shares and 4,314 h If sh es a - ar . totheh3Oth of June? —P to Mr. BOND— Mr. TWEEDY, a direentoottr,e present time. said, the solicitor had writ ten to those who had up on their shares, and that further steps would be taken en it such a course should be deemed expedient. After some busin ess o f minor i mportance had been transacted, a vote of tha n k s to the Chairman closed the business of the meeting. atmosphere gradually TIIE WEATHER AND CROPS. A f —....te very unsettled weather, the heavy atmor some weeks of drew into large masses of thunder-cloud? traversing the country in all directions, and in some places emptying selves, it was feared, very injuriously to the crops. there_ these two days, however, they have gradually elearedlfLthin way ; frosty nights and bright sunshine durin g the day have D suc ceeded, and it is now ascerta ined that the dama ge has been much less than was anticipated. O n all h ands operations are going on briskly, and with the exception of the potatoes very favouralle accounts are brought in both of the quality and yield of the crops throughout North Derby. shire. —Derbyshire Courier. IMPORTATION OF COPPER. --- The steamer Soho, from Antwerp, has brought some packages of copper, con signed to a firm of emi nence i n th e metropolis. This is an interesting importation from Belgium. • it , AMENT. ROUSE OF LORDS, August 29. Their Lordships met at Five o'clock. The Sheep and Cattle Importation Prohibition Bill went through Committee. The Sheep and Cattle Contagintig Disorders Bill went through Committee. The Poor-law Auditors' Proceedings Restrictions Bill was read a second time, and the standing orders having been previously suspended, the Bill went through Com mittee, was reported, and read a third time and passed. The Commons' Inclosure Amendment Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed. The Reproductive Loan Fund Institution (Ireland) Bill was read a third time and passed. The Controverted Elections Bill was read a second time and ordered to be committed. DUBLIN POLICE ACT. Lord MONTEAGLE presented a petition from Dublin, signed by 2,441 persons, against the Dublin Police Act. Lord CLANRICARDE said the Bill only proposed to extend the provisions of the existing Act, and con tained no new principle. The Noble Lord moved the second reading of the Bill, which was agreed to. SUGAR DUTIES BILL. Earl GREY moved the order of the day for going into Committee on the Sugar Duties Bill. After a brief discussion, in which Earl Granville, Earl Grey, Lord Redesdale z _and Lord Monteagle took part, the Bill went through Committee. METROPOLITAN SEWERS BILL Lord CAMPBELL moved the third reading of the Commissioners of Metropolitan Sewers Bill. After a few remarks from Lord Radnor, Lord Redes dale, Lord Campbell, and Lord Lansdowne, the Bill was read a third time and passed. TRANSFER OF LANDED PROPERTY (IRE LAND) BILL. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE having explained the objects and provisions of this Bill, moved that it be read a second time. Lord MONTEAGLE supported the Bill as a great boon to Ireland, and expressed his conviction that the Government were entitled to thanks for introducing it. After a few words from Lord BEAUMONT, The Bill was read a second time. NUISANCES AND CONTAGIOUS DISEASES BILL. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE moved the second reading of this Bill, after observing that its objects were to abate all nuisances and to check the spread of con tagious disorders. The Bill was read a second time. FEVER (IRELAND) BILL. On the motion of the Marquis of CLANRICARDE, this Bill was read a second time. CONFERENCE WITH THE COMMONS. A conference with the Commons took place on the Turnpike Acts Continuance Bill. Upon the report of the managers for the Lords, The Earl of SHAFTESBURY moved that their Lordships insist on their amendments to this Bill. The motion was agreed to. ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE, in moving the ad journment of the House, remarked that this being the last week of the session, it would be for the public con venience their Lordships meeting on Wednesday, al though it was not usual to do so; but in this case it would enable them to advance several Bills a stage. The House then adjourned to to-morrow (this day). HOUSE OF COMMONS, August 29. DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS WITH THE COURT OF ROME BILL. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) Mr. HENLEY opposed the Bill. Mr. SHEIL supported the Bill. If it was necessary in 1832 that there should be an unsuccessful attempt made to have an accredited agent at Rome, on the part of England, it was preposterous in 1848, when Italy was in the state it at present was, that such an accredited person should not be sent there in order to put an end to the sectarian principles that had hitherto existed between Rome and England. Mr. URQUHART opposed the third reading of the Bill, on the ground that it had been brought in under false pretences, and was therefore as fraudulent as it was unconstitutional. Mr. REYNOLDS supported the Bill. Mr. NEWDEGATE opposed the Bill, although he expressed a hope that his friends would not divide on the third reading, as they had already had sufficient divisions on the measure divisions which he asserted had not represented the voice of the people of the country with respect to it, in consequence of the late period of the session at which it had been brought forward. Mr. F. SCOTT was determined to divide against the third reading of the Bill. Mr. JOHN O'CONNELL opposed the Bill on behalf of the Roman Catholics of Ireland. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the , House divided, when there appeared— For the third reading Against it Majority for the third reading —63 ri The Bill was then read a third time and passed. t( CONSOLIDATED FUND BILL. si The House then resolved itself into Committee on the e Consolidated Fund Bill; Mr. BERNAL in the chair. Mr. WAKLEY then drew the attention of the House to the manner in which the assistant-surgeons in the 1 navy were treated, an d conten d e d t h at they were enti- 4'. tied to be placed on the same footing as the army assistant- 5 , t surgeons. He thought th e B oar d o f Ad m i ra l ty had ", not , strictly conside r ed th e t reatment o f t h e naval 1' assistant surgeons, and felt convinced when they had, it a different course would be pursued towards them, and that they would not again have to complain to the th House. He had no motion to make on the subject `' but trusted that calling the attention of the House to the f in , subject would of itself b e su ffi c i en t to p l ace t h e case so " prominently before the Board of Admiralty as to cause g ( that board to do justice to a body of efficient but ill- w used men. PI Captain BERKELEY said the naval assistant- 11 surgeons had nothing to complain of, they were not treated with indignity, and in this opinion he was forti- ", fled by the testimony of other Boards of Admiralty and c ' the report of the Committee which sat in 1840. After a few words from Mr. HUME and Colonel P I TMOMPSON the conversation d ro p pe d. at The appropriation clause was then brought up and gi added to the Bill. cc The House resumed, and the report was ordered to b 1 be received to-morrow, at t we l ve o ' c l oc k . ~ The House, at a Quarter before Five, adjourned to of Half-past Six o'clock. Tile House resumed its sitting at Half-past Six o'clock. ar Sit H. WILLOUGHBY presented a petition from WI the secretary of the Provident Society Bank, against in any alteration in the law with regard to savings' banks. th Colonel THOMPSON presented a petition from Joh❑ to Snook, who stated that he had invented a life-boat, pe which he had submitted to the Admiralty for investiga- by tion, but not receiving satisfaction, he prayed the House ou to institute an inquiry into his invention. As he did not 3 , ask for any money, he would be permitted to lay the lei petition on the table. th Sir D. NORREYS presented a petition from the grand th jury of the county Roscommon, against the Labour-rate wi Bill, the Poor-law Bill, and the general system of admi nistering the poor-law. to Mr. HERMES gave notice that early in the ensuing GI session he would move a resolution founded on the evi- Ef dence taken by the Committee on Commercial Distress. th Mr. HAMILTON wished to put a question to the ne Noble Lord opposite, in relation to a statement made by ti( the Hpn. Member for Athlone, with reference to Mr. Whitty, the foreman of the jury which tried Mitchel, th that he was a bankrupt; for, although the Hon. Member fo did not impute anything improper to Mr. Whitty, the it statement might be prejudicial to him. He therefore at begged to inquire whether the Noble Lord had received lil a letter from Mr. Macan, the Commissioner of Bank- e) ruptcy, which stated that he found his affairs regular, and that there was nothing in his bankruptcy to im pugn his character. Ho could further state, that his creditors 'were satisfied, and that he prd obtained his I certificate. Lord J. RUSSELL said he had received such a letter, I pr and that it corroborated the statement now made by the to Hon. Member. Mr. KEOGH said, as he had been referred to, he begged to say that he merely stated the fact that he had been a bankrupt, and he d►d not cast any imputatio❑ upon him. THE HARBOUR, OF SOUTHWOLD. Mr. HUME said, that having received an assurance from the Commissioners of Woods and Forests, that the subject -matter of the motion which he intended submit ting to the House would be inquired into, he begged to withdraw the following motion:—" That an humble ad dress be presented to her Majesty, that she will be gra ciously pleased to cause inquiry to be made into the al leged injury to the port and harbour of Southwold, in Suffolk, by the inclosure of several thousands of acres of land, the property of the Crown, that were formerly covered with tidal waters, contrary to the Act of 1 Anne, c. 67, s. 5, and, consequently, highly detrimental to the interests of the Crown and the public." Lord MORPETH observed that if the evidence in connexion with the case were sent up to the office of the Woods and Forests, he would take care to have it laid before her Majesty's Attorney-General. Lord J. RUSSELL expressed a hope that Hon. Mem bers who had notices of motion on the paper would post pone them until after the orders of the day were dis posed of. Lord G. BENTINCK said that he had an important notice on the paper, and he could not assent to the Noble Lord's proposition. Lord J. RUSSELL—I merely ask a temporary post. ponement of the motion, in order to have the more im portant business proceeded with. THE ASSEMBLY OF TOBAGO. Lord G. BENTINCK directed attention to the peti tion from the Speaker and Members of the House of General Assembly of Tobago, relative to captured negroes, presented on the 7th of August, which he had intended to move should be printed with the votes. The petitioners complained of Lord Grey having refused them a share in the loan ►oted for the purposes of immigration. He thought he was not out of place in insisting on his privilege of bringing forward the motion betore the orders of the day, one of which was, that they should go into Committee for the considera tion of the West India Loan Bill. The petitioners re preseinnted Lord Grey as having refused them a participa tionalleged ntlbihygeriaaloan on Grey,two t ha t grounds. thoy h aldn not te first contributed to the y had refused r e o f f u s f e r d e e t illaboure rs; supplies, whichd, unable contribute, in consequence of the operation of claimedthe Act ce4quiiilion%tia:d the famine of last year. They colonies. Two-thiredsaaf to the ground, and 14 5 .° • regarded the loan, with other trailtarh ei g r ua b n u ti il t d y in o g f s tli h e a t d r p b tin een ta r ti a o zzl s • IMPERI destroyed. He thought it just, that when a measure of relief to the colonies was before the House, attention should be called to their condition, and that there should be some expression of feeling on the part of the British Parliament, in order that the Secretary of State might know, that if he were disposed to visit on this ruined colony hii wrath, because the colonists were not in a condition to furnish the supplies, the House of Commons, at all events, would not be a party to such proceedings. He begged to ask whether it was in tended, that the Secretary of State was to have the despotic power of distributing as he thought fit, half a million loan granted by the Commons of England, and whether he was to be at liberty to vent his wrath on every colony which, either from the ruin brought on it by the Government measures, or the scourge inflicted by Providence, should become unable or unwilling to grant the necessary supplies for maintaining the expenditure of those colonies. He farther desired to ask whether, if Tobago, which was small and weak in itself, was to be treated in this manner. Trinidad and British Guiana, which also threatened to stop the supplies, was to be put on the same footing as Tobago. If so, for what purpose were they voting a grant of half a million? Was it to be altogether monopolised by some servile that dared not show its independence, or exercise the right of refusing supplies, which belonged to an independent people, when they thought they were subjected to into lerable governors? Having made this statement, he should not press his motion for printing the petition with the votes, as he understood it had been already printed in the usual appendix. The motion was then, by leave, withdrawn. THE RAJA OF SATTARA. Mr. G. THOMPSON postponed his motion, respect ing the Raja of Sattara case, until the third reading of the Consolidated Fund Bill, on Thursday. CUSTOMS SEIZURE OF SILKS. Mr. JOHN WILLIAMS moved for a return of the number of seizures of silks, lace, and shawls, made at the Custom-house of London, from the Ist day of Janu ary, 1848, to the 25th day of August, 1848, on the plea of under valuation of entry ; stating the kinds of goods seized, the amount of entry, valuation of such seizures, the amount paid by the Custom-house to the importers of the goods, the amount of the proceeds of the sales of such goods ; stating the number of lots into which they were divided for sale, the several days on which they were put up for sale, and whether sold or bought in, or postponed, in each case, and the expenses incurred on such sales ; and a balance account to show the benefit or loss to the Custom-house department, and the amount paid in each case to the seizing officer. The return was agreed to. On the motion of Mr. HUME, a return was also Ordered of copies of all correspondence on the proposed establishment, extension, or improvement of Small Debt Courts, within the towns of Calcutta, Madras, and Bom bay, which has taken place between the Judges of her Majesty's Courts of Judicature in India, the Governors of Bengal, Madras, and Bombay, and the Honourable the Court of Directors of the East India Company dur ing the last three years. EXCHEQUER-BILLS BILL. On the motion for the committal of this Bill, Mr. HUME observed that the object of this Bill was to raise a loan of 2,000,0001., and to add 60,0001. or 70,0001. a year to the permanent debt of the country. He protested against the principle of borrowing money in time of peace, particularly under the present circum stances of the country; and he intended to take the sense of the House against it. On the 25th of February 14st, when it was understood there was a deficiency of 2i900,000Z, he urged on the Government and the House the propriety of bringing the expenditure within the revenue, or of providing for the excess by additional taxation, and proposed a resolution with that view. That resolution, however, was lost on 4 division by a large majority. On the 13th of March he again proposed that the income-tax should be limited to one year, in order that in the meantime Government might take measures fOr reducing the expenditure so as to bring it within the income. That proposition also was lost by a majority of 363 to 138, and the income-tax was passed for three years. Oh the 20th of March he moved to reduce the number of sailors from 43.000 to 36,000, but that motion, together with a subsequent one, to make a similar re diketien in the army, and another made by an Hon. Friend of his, to abolish the worse than u-eless African sqhadron, met with the same fate. All attempts, there fore, to effect reduction in the expenditure of the country hull been met with discouragement by the House and the Government; and it was now asked, the House hav ing refused to meet the deficiency by additional taxes, to meet it by a loan. Though he had not opposed the loan for Irish distress, because that was called for under ex traordinary circumstances, he objected, as a principle, to raising loans in time of peace. Looking at the prospects of the country, the state of commerce, the competition in trade, the decrease of profits, the large number of unem ployed poor, the enorm ous i ncrease i n t h e poor - rates, he contemplated with great alarm the tendency which had been evinced of late to add year after year to the perma nent debt of the country. It was admitted by the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir R. Peel) that taxation had reached is limits, and that all attempts to increase the revenue by additional taxes —except a tax on property—had failed. Cho attempt made some years ago to make up the evenue by adding five or ten per cent. to the Cus ams and Excise it was well known had been a igrial failure, the returns from these sources having de remised under the operation of that scheme, though the ri of the articles to the consumer had been enhanced. 'hei only item on which there was an increase was the ss sed taxes, and th a t was o b ta i ned by a breach of 1 sit , old windows whi c h were opene d on the under ta ing that they wou ld not b e c h arged having been , ro ght into the accoun t. B etween t h e years 1822 and 84 there had been reductio ns i n th e f un d e d d e b t an d a t e terminable annuiti e s amoun ti ng t o 3 , 630 , 0001 ., 'et, with the exception of th e r e d uc ti on consequent on he 41tered value of mo ne y f rom 5 to 3 per cent., an d •onci 3i to 3i per cent., this r e d uc ti on h a d no t resu l te d 1 tise saving of a farthing in the annual charge.— El4r, hear.) On the contr ar y, th e ex p en di ture h a d one, on increasing in consequence of the additions hich had been made to the permanent debt. He com lensed not only that the debt had increased, but that ie whole management of the financial affairs of the itin;try was bad. It was, however, in the power of to 'people themselves to provide the remedy by hlug representati ves w h o wou ld d o t h e i r d uty. e must remember that borrowing was not making rovision—it was the act of the spendthrift. Looking the state of Ireland and the prospects of the country .ineially for the next year, he thought the time had min when the House should grapple with the difficulty, ' showing itself determined to reduce the expenditure. hmigh no one was more desirous for the maintenance • peace and order than he was, he did think the scale a which our establishments were kept up was neither )cessary nor prudent.—(Hear, hear.) The number of .med men now maintained was almost double what it as 45 years ago. By the return of the gross and net come and expenditure of the country—which showed to enormous cost of collection, and to which he wished direct the attention of Honourable Members —it ap iardd that the expenditure of the country had increased e shout 10,000,000/. since 1836. The expenditure of it 44 colonies was most enormous—not less than a 1 5 7 t 1 5 0 4 0 0, 0/ 0 . 00Byotgitvhiinsg would thes e colonies e se I f-giouvey th r n me o n u t gl a a t ie sooner we came to a reckoning with the fundholder to better; but he thought the moment the public faith o money troüble about as broken the power of England was at an end.— leer, hear.) Instead of increasing the debt we ought ac,abutht themselves s l e o l n v g es a n s o d v i e n rn in m is e h nt i g t d o e u ra ld e arly next session he would move resolutions pledging ), ! w k. t h ato v s ee that to this Billretrenchmentshould l and b reduction.e taken on day three months. t b o e t cuho een matter.s borrowediw. Mr MUNTZ seconded the motion, and complained of to 14e period at which the budget had been brought matt!. There must be some object in this; probably had been with the view of getting the House into a ate in which the G overnment could carry what they ted. i Funding and b orrow i ng was nothing better than .‘travagance; it had been the resource of all bad Go vernnients. A former Whi g G overnment had sought to bolster up a falling revenue by adding five per cent. to the assessed taxes. They talked much of the elasticity f thc ,cLiun,try, but it, did not serve th em . Ten tt; Gofernment physician " was called in; he imposed a )petty-tax, and the result was to remove the burden, s a certain extent, from the poor to the rich, although the measure itself was little better than picking pockets. The Liberals, though they had opposed the first im position of this tax, had no hesitation in asking for its renewal. Then came the railway speculation, with its natural consequence of a pressure on the money market, to which the potato failure contri buted, and which the Bank Act of 1844 failed to prevent, notwithstanding all the good effects which it had been predicted to produce At the present moment the Government was much in the same situation as they were eight or ten years ago: the revenue was falling off, trade decreasing, and discontent largely prevailing. Every Government, for the last thirty-five years, had failed to secure prosperity: the reason was they had uni formly kept in the old beaten track. We were told to keep national faith; but he called that national faith which was only kept on one side " national humbug." — (Laughter.) Last year the state of this country was most disgraceful; no banker on the continent would cash a bill on any party in London. If the Act of 1844 was a good one, why not carry it out; why suspend it when the difficulty came? The discontent which now pre vailed arose solely from distress: when all classes were prosperous, it was impossible to get six men together to talk politics.—(Hear and laughter.) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he was the last person to oppose any proper reduction of expenditure; and the statement which had been made by the Hon. Member for Montrose was the fullest justi fication of the course the Government had pursu e d. H e admitted th a t overwhelming majorities concurred with th e G overnme n t r i i n tie t s h o e f the House h a d impropriety of reducing our establishments; and no one who reflected on what had since occurre d , here andin Icondemn the course th en pursued. But there i l i a o nd, could Mem ber, in speaking of the m o d e of equalising the r n. and the expenditure, while ad m i tting that the ue e venue ultra of taxation was reach e d, h a d i n fact admitted the propriety of the plan which Government proposed—to meet the excess of expenditure by borrowing. That excess was merely of a temporary character, and ought not therefore to be met by the imposition of permanent additional taxes. He had thought it the best course to augment the property-tax; the House having objected to that he now proposed to take the next best course, after looking to the reduction of the expenditure to the lowe s t point conga • tent with the national security. Up war d s of son,qooL had been struck off the original estimates; there were many other reductions which might be ef fected next year, and with that possibility in view of the Government, they had felt they should not be justified in proposing an increase of taxation. Allusion had been ;but in made to the increased charge of the d ebt seven years there had been a reduction in that charge of not less than a million. Admitting the general c,orrect b t he fleas of the financial outline which had been given y Hon. Member for Birmingham, he would observe that the imposition of the income-tax had been accompanied by very large reductions in indirect taxation, from which the nation at large had derived material benefit. He could not admit that the change in the condition of our finances since 1845 was owing to the conduct of any Go vernment ; the failure of a large portion of the food of the Irish people, the severe commercial depression, and the exportation of the precious metals, sufficiently ac counted for existing embarrassments. He certainly could not acquiesce in the recommendation of. the Hon. Member for Birmingham, that, after every other expe dient had failed, they should resort to the doctrines ad vocated by what was called the " Birmingham school." Mr. H. CURRIE expressed his objection to increas ing the funded debt. Mr. HEYWOOD said he thought the course proposed by the Government the best that could be pursued under the circumstances. Mr. WODEHOUSE blamed the Government for having yielded to the suggestion of the Hon. Member for Montrose, in reference to sending out of the country two regiments, the 50th and the 92d, at an improper period of the year, owing to which upwards of 600 men, and between twenty and thirty officers, lost their lives. The withdrawal of the African squadron had also been recommended. Such a measure would be most dis graceful. He considered that it was essentially neces sary to keep up the army at its present amount, in order to preserve peace in the manufacturing districts. Sir H. WILLOUGHBY referred to the opposition given by members of the present Government to the original imposition of the income-tax, and said that such a tax ought only to be resorted to in cases of great emergency. He thought it desirable that the Chancellor of the Exchequer should state whether he proposed to make up the deficiency by Exchequer -bills or by the creation of new stock. Mr. HENLEY complained that the scheme pro pounded at the beginning of the present year by her Ma jesty's Government had been abandoned, and that a loan was contemplated. He saw nothing in the state of the country to justify this course of proceeding, which he held to be a dangerous, profuse, and reckless mode of operation. At the same time, looking at the state of the approaching harvest, the condition of Ireland, and the circumstances by which this country was surrounded, he could not vote against the committal of this Bill. Mr. DRUMMOND (Surrey) concurred with much that had been said on the subject of retrenchment; but, looking at the position of affairs, he should re gret if the House was driven to a division on the pre sent occasion. Mr. URQUHART expressed his determination to vote with the Hon. Member for Montrose (Mr. Hume) if he pressed his amendment to a division. Mr. NEWDEGATE said he was not prepared to refuse the supplies, which were called for by the sur render of all substantial principles to the advocates of free trade. Mr. COBDEN said that the charge had often been reiterated that the deficiency in the revenue arose from the free-trade measures which had been carried. Though it was said that the legislation of 1846 had led to this state of things, he was prepared to contend that the revenue was now larger than in 1845. This, how ever, was not now the question. The question really now at issue was, whether or not this country had been spending too much money. He, and those who thought with him, complained that the burden of taxation on the people was excessive, and he contended that the course of legislation to which the House had assented had made the proposed loan necessary. On the 25th of February last he had voted in a minority of 59 on a motion to reduce the expenditure, and that vote justified his opposition to the proposed loan of 2,000,000/. The increased expenditure arising from the cry of an invasion was a monstrous delusion, which had been got up by professional men, and, on the whole, was unjustifiable. On every ground he should vote against the proposed loan, in whatever shape it might be raised. After a few words trom Mr. MUNTZ in explanation, Mr. J. O'CONNELL said that as none of the opponents of the Government measure had suggested the means by which to meet the deficiency, he should give his vote in favour of the Bill now under consideration. It t the same time he must observe that if the Government would save the osependiture of the nation they would do' justice to Ireland. The present cost of the military, naval, and ordnance forces kept up in that country amounted from 1,500,000/ to 1,600,0001., and if the demands of Ireland were listened to and admitted, this cost might be dimi nished by at least one-half. Mr. SPOONER denied the assertion made by the Hon. Member for the West Riding (Mr. Cobden) that the income had this year been greater than in 1845. On the contrary, he asserted that before the free•trade tricks had been practised upon the country the re venue was higher. He found that in 1845 the total income was 5 4 ,417,6151., while for the present year it was 52,082,6571., leaving a deficiency of 1,764,0001. With respect to the proposition of borrowing in time of peace, he had no hesitation in saying that the principle was evil, and if the proposition had been made at an earlier period of the session he for one should have been inclined to make a stand against it, and have called upon the Government to suggest some plan of taxation on which the nation could rely. He must condemn a sys tem by which the Chancellor of the Exchequer would in fact give a bond for 100/, for the which he would only receive 861. The system of free trade which had been adopted by the Government was perfectly incompatible with its monetary system ; each system was bad in itself, but the two united would be highly detrimental to the interests of the country. He wished also to know what his Right lion. Friend intended to do for Ireland, and whether ho intended to raise a loan for that country ? Mr. J. A. SUITH agreed with what had fallen from his Hon. Friend, the Member for the West Riding, dur ing the first part of his speech—that it was the impera tive duty of the Government to make the revenue and the expenditure meet ; and he could not forbear rising to jilstity the vote which he intended to give in favour of the measure of the Government. He should give that vote, because he believed the Government had done all that lay in their power to avoid the position in which they were now placed. They had proposed a tax to avoid the deficiency which existed in the revenue. He (Mr. J. A. Smith) had supported the measure, and it was with regret that he saw them abandon it. There was at the present time a peculiar position of affairs, which he considered to justify the course which they had taken. This country was suffering from a deficiency oc casioned mainly by a visitation of Providence— a famine in the sister kingdom.—(Hear, hear.) He believed that the cause being temporary the deficiency would be temporary also; and that the cir cumstances in which the Government were undoubtedly placed—the state of the empire —the state of the whole world—justified the Government in conceding to the opinion of the House of Commons, that it was not expe dient to increase the amount of taxation. In that case the only alternative was to make a great reduction in the expenditure. Now he was one of those who consi dered that under peculiar circumstances a reduction of expenditure was not judicious ; but he was not afraid to say that he did not think that even the reduction which had been made was altogether advisable. He was not afraid of war; but he was sorry to hear the Hon. Mem ber for the West Riding give his opinion that the idea of war had been started by professional gentlemen for interested purposes. He thought the insinuation alto gether unworthy of the Hon. Gentleman. This country owed all her tranquillity to her continued preparation 1 for attack, which was the greate s t security for peace; and it would not be wise to reduce ; th e expenditure this year. The Government had done alalthaetrtehaesye of taxa tion; ' coutladto i proposing an in t in yieldi ng t o t h e opinion n meet;in theyh e o thei r p ro p osa l ; and that the H on . M em b er for the West Riding was the last G ent l eman who should to Lord f expenditure thhae d House done what i bc and u d p thought withdrawingrt wasoo 1. their p resent measure. r wicuktedhedehlaudsions. found TnoheonHeotnh.eretoh r e d would Gß give EN TN h is vote c charge others with Gen tleman might think that seventeen millipns of expendi ture could be reduced, but coincide with him in the opinion. The circumstances in which this country was placed at the commencement of the year were very different to the present. The war like preparations which had been suggested and recom mended by the Prince de Joinville in 1844 had been faithfully carried out, and an increase in the maritime - . power pt' France lied taken place suith as had no justi: fication except in some resolution in the minds of the rulers of France that the day must come when they would desire to use them against this country. He was one of those who would have refused, had the question come to the vote, to add to the property or income-tax. He was one of those who voted with the Hon. Member for Montrose to curtail it to its present amount. But the House, though prepared to refuse the Chan cellor of the Exchequer an increase in that tax, was never asked whether it would refuse an additional tax on customs. Had the Noble Lord (J. Russell) and the Chancellor of the Exchequer come and asked the House to impose some of the taxes on :customs which had lately been repealed, and to continue others which were soon to fall to the ground, he would have given them his hearty support. It had been stated that the reduction which had been made in taxation amounted to the same sum as the present deficiency ; and the Hon. Member for the West Riding had stated that, notwith standing the reduction in question, the net revenue of the country had never been so large as at present. Now, in 1848, atter the reduction of a considerable amount of customs duties, the revenue was 51,451,609/. ; while, in 1846, before the reduction of those duties, it was 53,626,178/, being an increase of 2,200,000/. over the revenue of last year. So that there would now be an ample surplus instead of a deficiency, had it not been for the alterations in the customs duties which had taken place during the last few years. He said, if they were now in difficulties, let them not look to loans but to the customs duties. Let them follow the example of America, and have equal taxes for all the produce of foreign industry. But the Chancellor of the Exchequer had fallen into the old chronic vice of the Whigs of always getting into a d e fi c i ency. Ever since they came into power in 1830 they had discovered a casualty every year to account for that deficiency, and this year it was attributed to the Kafir war. But he maintained that it was the duty of a Government to provide for such casualties, for it could not be expected that there would never be another famine, or more disturbances on the Continent, whi c h b y c h ec ki ng tra d e would dimi nish the consumption of exciseable articles, and cause the Government to fall into the position at presento c cupied by th e Ch ance ll or of the Exc h eque r and the Whig Government, fast travelling into a state of insolvency and beggary. Ho considered that there were many taxes which might be re-imposed with advantage in the pre sent difficulty, among which he considered that the du ties on foreign timber and cotton would fall as lightly as any on the people of this !;country ; and he considered also that the duties on corn might have been continued for a few years more, if for no other reason, for the sake of the r e v enue which they produced. Let them not have recourse t o t h e odious income - tax or to t h e entail ing of d e bt s on our posterity; after thirty-three years peace, t o li f ose who s let said them not be m l that the repeal of wouldby the delusion o f make flour lid. a .pound, and fill England with pros.. perity by causing her to exchange her manufactures with foreign countries, so as to leave to every operative superfluity out of his higher wages and cheaper bread, to be expended on tea and sugar. Let them rather look to the result of our diminished exports to the extent of 5,000,0001; Lord J. RUSSELL did not think, after the expe rience of the session, that the Government had acted unwisely in having proposed an increase of the income tax, particularly when he considered that successive Governments had pursued the plan of reducing the taxes of the country to a great extent. No less than 10,000,0001. a year had recently been taken off these taxes that pressed upon articles of consumption; and that being so, when circumstances arose to call for ex traordinary expenditure, they were obliged to propose an unusual measure to meet it. An Hon. Gentleman asked, why not take money from the balances instead of proposing a loan? But, under all the circumstances, he felt that the course proposed and explained by his Right Hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer was the best. The Hon. Member for Montrose proposed a great reduction of the naval and military force of the country. But what appeared lately in the newspapers respecting a contemplated war by France in Belgium would, he was sure, at once show how impolitic such a measure would have been on the part of England.—(Hear, hear.) On the other hand, the feeling of the country was so significantly expressed against it, he thought the Government would not have been justified in persisting in their proposition of increasing the in come-tax, and therefore was it that they had recourse to a loan. The Noble Lord proposed certain duties upon timber and raw cotton. Political economists, long previous to Adam Smith, were of opinion that putting duties upon the materials of manufacture was a most unwise course. It had been the great boast of Sir Robert Walpole, that he had greatly reduced such duties; and he (Lord J. Russell) certainly would not be disposed to impose such duties.—(Hear. hear.) Respecting the corn-laws, he did not then wish to dispute with the Noble Lord what might be the effect of a 7s. duty ; but he certainly rejoiced at being connected with a Govern ment which had nothing to do with the sliding-scale of 1845. During the whole of this year, corn was intro duced with the certainty that there would be no duty above 10s., and that if the price rose much over 505., it would be admitted at a 4s. duty, instead of waiting, as under the sliding scale, till it rose to 70s. before it would be admitted at that duty. He thought that that had been of the greatest advantage to manufacturers and con sumers, and that a great security had been given this year over the years of 1841-2-3. The House then divided, when there appeared— For going into Committee 66 Against it. l5 Majority The House then went into Committee on the Bill. The Bill then passed through Committee. SAVINGS' BANKS BILL. On the motion for going into Committee on this Bill, Sir H. WILLOUGHBY said that the English and Scotch savings' banks considered that the provisions in this Bill would be injurious to those institutions in these countries. He did not think it was fair to press the measure at so late a period of the session, without allow ing the persons affected full time for consideration.— (Hear, hear.) He objected to the clause relating to the trustees. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that he proposed to strike words out of the clause which would leave the law as it stood before the Act of 1844. He did not intend to repeal the Act of 9 George IV. He proposed to limit the liability of trustees to an amount not exceeding 1001. He also proposed to add words similar to those proposed by the Hon. Member for Athlone (Mr. Keogh). Sir H. WILLOUGHBY said that the changes pro posed by the Right Hon. Gentleman materially altered the nature of the Bill and obviated a part of his objec tion. But he objected to the filth clause more particu larly. How was it possible for the depositors to pro duce all the books in two days?—(Hear, hear.) Yet they would lose the interest on their deposits if they did not do so. He did not think that the trustees would consent to act if this clause were allowed to stand. What had occurred with respect to English and Scotch savings' banks—he said nothing of Irish banks—to justify the Government interfering with them at this late period of the session ? An impression had gone abroad that the money deposited in savings' banks had been used for other purposes than those which were intended by their institution. He hoped that th e w h o l e o f t hi s Bill would be postponed except the part relating to the Irish banks. Mr. HENLEY thought that the Government bad laid no ground whatever for this wholesale interference with savings banks. Upon a very meagre report of a Com mittee a general measure,,had been introduced, of which the managers and trustees of savings' banks probably knew nothing. So crude and ill -concocted a measure ought not now to be pressed on the House; it would be much better to consider it deliberately early next session. To require the production of the depositors' books in a given number of days would be an act of great hardship, as many of them might be at a distance, or out of the country. With respect to the English and Scotch banks there had been no complaint whatever, and this inter ference would probably create a panic. Col. THOMPSON said, if the Bill did not propose to give greater security to the poor depositors, its objects must be unimportant. Nothing was more clear than that any defalcation in the savings' banks must be made good by that House. Colonel SIBTIIORP said the Bill was an admission that there was something rotten in the condition of the savings' banks. Mr. WODEHOUSE, as a trustee of a savings' bank, should be disposed to resign his trust if this Bill passed. Lord G. BENTINCK moved that the Bill should be committed that day three months. The Select Com mittee had only examined four witnesses, with respect to the savings' banks of Tralee, Killarney, and Dublin, and none at all with respect to the banks of this coun try; they had sat nine days, and had produced a report, recommending that further inquiry should take place, and that a Bill should be passed regulating the re sponsibility of trustees and appointing auditors. They had made no recommendation with respect to the savings' banks of this country, and,:yet the Chan cellor of the Exchequer came down with a general Bill, ill prepared, which he seemed not to understand him self. The proceedings of the Select Committee had been secret; the officers of savings' banks in the City had applied to watch these proceedings, but had not been permitted to do so. It was most unfit that this measure should be brought forward at this period of the session, when Ministers were surrounded by their sleep ing myrmidons, ready to wake up and vote as they directed.—(Laughter.) In the Marylebone Savings' Bank there were 18,700 depositors; how could all these send in their books in two days? Even if this were done, how could such a number of accounts be inspected and verified without increasing the staff of officers, and consequently augmenting the expense and decreasing the interest to the depositors? Such a provision would infallibly reduce the number of depositors considerably. The Bill had only been printed yesterday, and the House ought not now to be asked to consider it. Mr. MONSELL supported the Bill, as being calcu lated to restore confidence in the depositors in the sav ings' banks in Ireland. Unless some change were made such as that now proposed by this Bill the most serious evils would arise. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the sole object of the Bill was to secure a better manage ment of the savings' banks with a view to the interests cf the depositors. The Bill only sought that which the trustees of the savings' banks had themselves sought in tbeyear 1844 from the then Chancellor of the;Exehequer, and therefore he was at a loss to conceive the grounds upon which the present opposition rested. The Bill fixed a limited responsibility on the trustees, in order that a proper control should be kept over the officers whose appointment I would be vested in the trustees. The measure was essential to afford a check upon and a security against the mismanagement which had already arisen in various parts of the country. Mr. H. lIIMBERT complained that the Bill had been delayed to so late a period of the session. He should vote against the Bill, because it would be useless in Ire land, and would be badly received in England. Mr. BROTHERTON could not understand the mean ing of the opposition to the Bill. The Hon. Member talked as if he expected that the Government was not answerable for the deposits. They were responsible for what they received, but not for all the mismanagement which was exercised. If the Government attempted to exercise any control in the matter, the cry would be against centralisation, and it would be said that they wished to get all the power into their own hands. He considered that savings banks in England were generally well managed, but that in Ireland the case was different, and that the managers generally contrived to put a great deal of the money into their own pockets. And be thought it disgraceful to Ireland that, after so much mismanage ment of their banks, they should come and ask the House to make good that which was the result of their own deficiencies. Mr. REYNOLDS complained that his Hon. Friend, without knowing anything of the facts, gave every credit to the mode of management of the English banks, and allowed no merit to the Irish. He was sorry to say that there were certain classes in England whowahlo ways looked at the black side of Irish doings, and always drew their illustrations of dishonesty and pro fligacy from that country. Without including the Hon. Member in that category he thought that in the absence of facts he had brought his mind to that belief. Not withstanding the deficiencies of the Bill, he considered it to be a step in the right direction, and would give it his support. Mr. KEOGH defended the management of the Irish banks. Mr. J. A. SMITH said that the opposition to the Bill of the Hon. Member for Kerry surprised him, because the Hon. Member was one of the Committee that con curred unanimously in recommending the Bill to be brought in at once. Mr. HERBERT said he had not concurred in the re port of the Committee. Mr. NEWDEGATE supported the amendment, and hoped the Noble Lord would persevere in it. The House divided, when there appeared— For the amendment Against it .... ..................... 21 ................................ 49 Majority ........................ —2B The House then went into Committee. On clause 1, In answer to a question from Mr. HENLEY as to the liability of trustees, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that a trustee would be liable for wilful neglect to the whole extent of the defalcation, unless he should have in writing limited his responsibility to 1001. The clause was agreed to, as was also clause 2. The remaining clauses were, after a long discussion, agreed to, but before the House resumed Mr. WODEHOUSE moved an amendment limiting the operation of the Bill to Ireland. Lord G. Bentinck, Mr. Henley, Mr. Newdegate, and Mr. Keogh supported the amendment. The Committee divided, when there appeared— For the amentinieLt Against it 30 Majority . The House then resumed, and the Bill was reported. The Spirits, Dealers in (Ireland), Bill, the British Spirits Warehousing Bill, and the Distilling from Sugar Bill, were severally reported, and ordered to be read a third time this day. The Slave Trade (Equator) Bill was read a third time and passed. The Committee on the Copper and lead duties was, on the suggestion of Lord G. BENTINCK, who stated that nothing should induce him to allow that stage to pass at such an hour (nearly half-past three A.m.), post poned. The House adjourned at Half-past Three o'clock, hav ing sat from twelve at noon. CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT. THIRD COURT. (Before Mr. Commissioner BULLOCK.) James Golwell, a very gentlemanly-looking young man, surrendered in court to take his trial upon an in dictment for misdemeanour, charging him with having attempted to commit an infamous crime upon John Williams. Mr. Parry defended the prisoner. The prosecutor, a middle-aged man, now gave the name of Macdonald instead of the one named in the in dictment, and which he had given before the magistrate. The Learned COMMISSIONER asked him why he had given the name different, and which was his real one?— He said Macdonald, and the other name was his mother's. The COMMISSIONER said—Then the case must fall to the ground. Arr. PARRY sail the reason he had given his right name now was, because for the defence they had got a host of evidence as to who he was. He was one of those scoundrels who went about preferring charges of this nature for the purpose of extortion. They had several police inspectors to prove he had made several charges of a similar kind, and abundant other evidence of the fact. He begged to assure the court that the charge was wholly without foundation, and that his client was a highly respectable young married man. The defendant wished to know how he was to pro ceed against such a man, and wipe the stain from his character? Mr. Commissioner BULLOCK—You leave this court without the least blemish attached to your character. Shortly aft.'r the case was over the fellow who had prepared the charge came into Court., and in a very im pudent tone requested to know of Mr. Under-Sheriff Wire why he was not to have his expenses for attend ance during the week? The UNDER-SHERIFF indignantly told him he should not, and ordered him to be turned out of court, which was speedily and not very ceremoniously effected. William Simpson, aged 50, was iiadicted for stealing a quantity of galvanized iron piping, the property of the directors of the Eastern Counties 11:silway. It appeared that the property . 1s as seen safe at the Stratford Station a few days before the 4th of July, upon which day the prisoner was taken iaito custody near the spot with it in his possession. The jury found him Guilty, and several previous con victions having been proved, he was transported for seven years. Henry Little Wake, aged 28, described as a labourer, was indicted for feloniously forgim g and uttering a bill for the payment of 10,000 rupees, tiiith intent to defraud John Hunt and others. The prisoner, who is a very gentlemanly-looking man, of military appearance, pleaded g u ilty. Mr. CLARKSON said that the prisoner was a young man whose family was of the high est respectability, and he had been a lieutenant in the ;army in India. The manner in which the forgery had been committed was this:—The prisoner was well acquainted with several generals and officers in India, tal:d by that means had become aware of the manner th ey adopted in making payable orders. He had gone to . the prosecutors, who are the well known firm of Sto.r. r and Mortimer, the silversmiths, and ordered plate to the amount of 8001., for which he tendered the instruw.e nt in question in pay ment. The prosecutors only let hi an have a ring before they made the inquiries which lc.o & to the discovery of the E forgery. It was urged, in mitigation, t: 'let the prisoner had shown the greatest contrition for the offence, and had not, in tact, obtained any prupert y except the ring. Mr. Commission BULLOCK sai d he would take time to consider the sentence, and v% . ould respite the judg ment until next session. Several cases of burglary wer e tried in this court during the day, but none of them, presented any feature of sufficient interest to warrant a report. The prisoners convicted for these offences wer e William Jones and James Taylor, who were sentenc, 2d to ten and seven years' transportation, William J ames Hewson, and William Coe, both of whom were transported for seven years. In the other cases tried th a prisoners were ac quitted. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. MANSION-HU USE. Murfit Meeks, was brought bet ore the Lord Mayor upon the charge of having decal aped from Cambriage shire with a sum of money which bad been collected for the support of the poor. The prisoner, it appeared, had I e,en wandering penny less, and in great distress of mi, ad, on Monday night about the streets of London. At :length he walked up to a policeman and stated that he , had absconded from Chesterton, in Cambridgeshire, vti th 481. which he had collected us assistant-overseer, a n d wished to be taken into custody. The policeman, ups a hearing the matter circumstantially stated, then cotl sidered that he was perfectly justified in apprehendi: g the miserable man, and lodged him in the station-hoc Jie. In answer to questions from the Lord Mayor, the prisoner said he had disappeared !rrom Chesterton on the 11th of March, with the proper ty Of the Chesterton Umion. Ile had made larger co Elections without yield ing to the temptation. .'remanded till Thursday. GUILDHAL..L. A man named Charles Chanel I was brought before Alderman Lawrence for having d riven a horse with a sore shoulder. The facts of the case were that t he prisoner was driv ing his horse and cart, when the animal stumbled and fell, in consequence of which the Li arness shifted and re moved the scab from an old sore , leaving a raw spot, about the size of half-a-crown. ' 1 'he constable William Markwick, 370, immediately mad ra the discovery, and at once took the prisoner into cuss oody, and conveyed the horse and cart to the green-yard. Alderman LAWRENCE asked when the prisoner was taken into custody? The officer replied that morning, a few hours previous. Alderman LAWRENCE—If it was so short a time, why take them to the green. yard, to ascur an expense which could be settled here? Markw ick—l only obeyed the orders which are given to all cot stables. Alderman LAWRENCE—Is the . bruise at the green-yard now ? Officer—Yes. Alderman LAWRENCE—Then o and fetch it here, and let me see it.. I do not and .erstaud why officers should at once convey a horse to t ,e green-yard, to in volve the parties in expenses, w' c ,en the alleged crime was committed while the Magistr. Lte was sitting, or only a short time before. The officer, accordingly, went to the green-yard and brought the horse for the Alder man's inspection close to the window, when there appeared a raw small patch on the back, which the saddle a could cover, and which might have been caused by the h orse falling. Alderman LAWRENCE said he slid not see any reason for taking the prisoner into cu s tody. It appeared to him the accident of the removal .if the scab by the fall ing of the animal was very prof :ble, and therefore he should discharge him. His or 1.1 y surprise was that he was at all detained in custody. The prisoner thanked the Aldo orman, arid wished to know it he was to have his mom y hack which was in the possession of the policeman v 'rho had searched him? Alderman LAWRENCE asked wb at right the officer had to search a man, and detain his t as a common pick pocket, when he had committed OA fly an ordinary offence for which he could have been su t amoned? The constable said he was o lbliged to search every prisoner, and keep all that he foe end on them. Chaney wished to know it' ho a ras to be subject to pay the green yard fees. Alderman LAWRENCE said he should not, and imme diately made an order to that effer rt. William BO IV-STRE ET. Stennett, aged 60, who has been for the last twenty years a letter carrier at Barnet and the neigh bourhood, was placed at' the bt before Mr. Henry, charged with stealing a letter, co: staining cash, the pro perty of the Postmaster -General. Mr. Walter Robinson Sculthor p e, one of the presi dents of the London district of tl r e Post-office, stated, that in consequence of numerous- complaints recently made from Barnet and its neighbor arhood, he caused a letter to be written on Saturday las t, addressed, " Mrs. Otway, monthly nurse, at Mr. Na: rrody's, Under Hill, Barnett," in which he enclosed a half-sovereign, two fourpenny pieces, and four postage stamps, which were wrapped in one piece of paper, atl fl of which be had previously marked in the presen c :e of an inspector of letter-carriers. It was then about ; half-past one o'clock in the afternoon, and having subs equently seen it in the office, he retained it until Mont lay morning, when he tied it up with the letters about to be dispatched to Bar net, and put the bundle into the post-bag, which was also sealed and tied, and dispatc tb.ed at half-past nine o'clock. He then went to Barnet with Peake the officer. The prisoner should have deli% rered the letter about half-past twelve o'clock, and wi mess subsequently as certained that it had not been delivered. They then went in search of the prisoner, end having met him about two o'clock on Barnet-eomi eon, riding in his pony chaise, and informed him who the r were, they asked him if he had seen such a letter, and 1 is replied that he had not. Witness immediately desired him to get out of his chaise, that it might be searched.. and upon the officer proceeding to search him, he took ti •om his pocket some money and postage stamps, which, t Ton witness examin ing, he instantly identified as the sa me he had placed in the letter. The money in his po.fs ession was next ex amined, and the identical hall-sovers ign was found, which had also been enclosed in the letuen , and which the pri soner said he had received from a , awnbroker in Barret on Saturday. The fourpenny pi ices were also found upon him. On making a further search, the prisoner took from his pocket some paper, and handing it to the officer, said, " That's the letter; d ) forgive me." He was then given into custody. The prisoner, being called on fc r his defence, said, "I cannot say that I did not do it." He was then com mitted to Newgate for trial. CLEI?KE LV.i LL . A poor boy, about 14 years of E , ge, was placed at the bar, charged with standing with a stall of vegetables, &c., in Leather -lane. Mr. COMBE inquired whether tilt prisoner caused any obstruction ? Mr. Deacon, one of the guardians of the poor for the parish of Camberwell, and Mr. Aldrich, the assistant relieving officer, were in attendance to watch the pro ceedings; and Mr. Games appeared on behalf of the accused. The unfortunate children, whose appearance on the former examination was so revolting, were wonderfully altered and improved by the kind treatment they re ceived at the Camberwell workhouse. The boy Joseph Thomas May was sworn, and said am nearly ten years of age, and lived with my father, the prisoner, at Carlton-place, Pomeroy-street, Cam berwell. Last Saturday week I went to Camberwell fair, and stayed out until between nine and ten o'clock at night. My father was at home when I came in, and asked me where I had been. I told him I had been selling my collars. My father sends me out with lace collars to sell. He said don't tell me lies; Mr. Evans saw you at the fair. He made me undress, and took off my shirt, and then he got the cane and beat me with it on my arms and back. I think he struck me three or four times. My mother (step-mother) was present, and said it was very shocking I should stay out so late. He had beaten me some day in the week with the same cane, and that was for going to the fair, and before that he beat me once or twice with stinging nettles on my back ; he at that time made me take my c lothes off. That was for going to the fair. In his cross-exa mination by Mr. Games the little fellow admitted that he had spent 4d. out of some money given to him by his father to purchase lace, and that upon that occasion his father did not beat, but scolded him. He also spent money at other times in purchasing bread and sweet stuff. Mr. Charles Brittle, a house agent, said the house in which the prisoner lived belonged to his brother, and having collected the rent he had frequent opportunities of seeing him and his children. On one occasion he saw the child, Mary Ann May, with marks of violence about her. He saw her on Wednesday last with black eyes, and very much bruised on the forehead. Two other witnesses spoke to the wretchedly neglected and half starved state in which the prisoner kept hie children, while he himself, his wife, and infant by the latter were well clad. George English, one of the summoning officers, said he apprehended the prisoner upon a warrant for ill treating the boy. Mr. Deacon assured the magistrate that the parish had behaved with the greatest liberality sad kindness towards the prisoner, and in fact treated him altogether unlike a pauper. Mr. NORTON replied he was perfectly satisfied that he was treated kindly. There was not a parish in the metropolis, with perhaps one exception, the parish of St. George's-in-the-East, where the poor were treated with greater consideration, kindness, and liberality than that of Camberwell, and he could only wish that every other parish in England was like it. With respect to the charge against the prisoner, he (Mr. Norton) did not re collect, in all his experience as a magistrate, to have witnessed a case of greater barbarity or cruelty than that which the appearance of the unfortunate children and the evidence of the witnesses disclosed. The prisoner was fully committed for trial. On a former day some discussion took place about the parish authorities prosecuting in the case, when it waS said that for the last prosecution of a similar:sort, Mr. Dodd, the then vestry-clerk of the parish, made out • bill for 1081. This the poor-law auditor refused to pass and the difficulties in getting this enormous bill settled were so great that the parish authorities had a consi derable repugnance to incur a second charge of the sort. Mr. Norton, who expressed astonishment at the enor mity of such a bill, suggestsd an application to the Soli citor of the Treasury, who, he had no doubt, would pro• secute in the case. RAILWAY SHARE MARKETS. BRISTOL, AUG. 29. STOCK EXCHANGE. —This being settling day, but little actual business in shares was done. There were a good many inquiries for different descriptions of stock; holders were, however, unwilling to sell, anticipating better prices. LIVERPOOL, AUG. 29. STOCK EXCHANGR.—We h ave a better market to-day, more business has been done, and at slightly improved prices. The sales are—Caledonian, Preference, 7 per cent., 1 4 1 ) . Lancashire and Y or k s hi re (late M. and B.), Fifths, 13., Ditto, 101. Preference, 1 / 2 p.—Ditto, H a l ves (late Liverpool I and Bury), 14 dis.—London and North- Western, 115 — Ditto, New Quarters, 14 p.—Midland Stock, 92—Ditto, New Halves, 71. 18 s . 9d . dis.--North Staffordshire, 31, 183, 9d. South-Eastern and Dover, 2 5%—Ditto, No. 2, 91 dis.— Ditto, No. 3, 9 dis.—Ditto, No. 4, 71. 35. 9d.—York, New castle, MA.NCHESTER, AUG. 29. STOCK EXCHANGE.—The sales are—Birkenhead, Lan cashire, and Cheshire Junction, 22/. Shares, 81i Leeds and Thirsk, New, 23 dis.—South-Eastem and Dover, No. 4, 7 3 - 1 6—Manchester and Birmingham (H. and B. ), Quarters, I% p.—Sheffield and Lincoln, 71% dis.—Cheshire Junction, 8% dis.—Grimsby, 20/. Shares, 9% dis. BIRMINGHAM, Auo. 29. STOCK EXCHANGE. —The sales are Staffordshire, 78s. 9d. dis.—Shrewsbury and Birmingham (A), 61. 3s. 9d. dis.—Ditto (B), 4 dis. _ YORK, AUG. 28. STOCK EXCHANGE.—The business transacted to-day wall as follows: —Great Northern, 7 - - York, Newcastle, and Berwick (Extension), No. 1, 161 ,1—Ditto, No. 2 (late New Berwicks), 157 i —Ditto (G. N. E. Purchase), 84. GLASGOW, Aug. 28. STOCK EXCHANOK—The sales are—Caledonian, Pre ference, 51s.—Eastern Counties, 14 4—Glasgow, Kilmar nock, and Ayr, Halves, No 1,6/. (A.—Ditto, Preference, 64s.—Great Northern, 71. 6 s. —North British, Thirds, 385.-- York, Newcastle, and Berwick (G. N. E. Preference), 8 1 4. • The Lord Chancellor has been pleased to appoint Mr. Robert Crosby to be second Assistant Clerk of Affidavits in the Chancery Affidavit-office, vacant by the death of Mr. Wm. Thodey Smith, so that the gentlemen, before whom all affidavits, declarations, and affirmations are now made, un d er t h e l ate Acts of Parliament, are Messrs. Samuel Anderson, John Jefferson, and Robert , Crosby. MILT IL 9. On the 21st inst., in Upper Seymour-street, Somers-town , the lady of W. Lawday, Esq., of a daughter. On the 25th inst., at the Rectory, Fen Ditton, near Caul - ' bridge, the wife of the Rev. W. B. James, of a son. On the 25th inst., at the Vine, Hants, the lady of W. Wiggett Chute, Esq., of a daughter. On the 25th inst., at Lansdowne -road, Notting-hill, the lady of H. Tindal Atkinson, Esq., of a son. r, 1 On the 26th inst., at L a d y Bateman's, Portman-square, the Hon. Mrs. Whyt e Melville, of a daught er . On the 26th inst., at Lorn-road, Brixton, Mrs. Momber , of a daughter. On the 27th inst., at Duncan-terrace, Islington, Mrs. ". Tucker, of a dau g ht er. At Brighton, on the 27th inst., the lady of the Rev. W• M. Du Pre, of a son. MARRIED. On the 24th inst., at St. Leonard's-on-Sea, James Ford ham, son of the late Joseph Harriss, Esq., of Aston Tirrold , Berks, to Ellen Maria, younger daughter of William Ne ck ' Esq., of Camberwell-grove, Surrey. On the 26th inst., at Salisbury Cathedral, J. H. ThomPi, son, Esq., o f C roydon, Surrey, to Mary, younger daughter o f the late George Smith, Esq., of Salisbury. On the 22d inst., at the parish church of Treetop, John Kekwick, Esq., of the Holm es , near R o th er h am , to Fanny, daughter of T. May, Esq., of Catcliffe, Yorkshire. On the 23d inst., at Sutton Veney, Wilts, Bliss J. Ha le : Esq., 80th Regiment, to Mary, third daughter of the Roy W. D. Thring , D . 1.) rector of the above parish. DIED. ~sti: On the 24th inst., Eliza, wife of H. Bright, Esq., of Ealing , t I , late of Dudley-villa, Paddington. .; t ... On the 26th inst., at the Rectory, Hemingford Abbote. ' i Huntingdonshire, ag e d 57,:F ann y, the wife of thed Bev. 8. - ' ll r t Selwyn. On the 29th inst., at Wein, Shropshire, Thomas L. Dickint aged 28, youngest son of Mr. George Dickin, of Queen-street/ Cheapside. • At D irtford, Kent, on the 27th inst., Mr. C. Huggett. , vir t. On the 27th inst., at Hyde-park-street, John Cox, Esq. r. 3 On the 27th inst., at Princes-street, Hanover-square, Capt. d John Campbell, Esq., late of the Royal Marines, aged 63. ,r; S On the 28th inst., Abigail, third daughter of D. A., Lind° , , ~ei Esq., of Mansell-street, the authoress of the Hebrew and ' to o English and English and Hebrew Lexicon, aged 45. f „,; London: Printed and Published by MURDO YOUNG , , No. 112, Strand, Printer, at The Sun Office, No. 112 ...lop. •••• Strand, in the Precinct f the Savoy. in the county of • Middlesex, Wednesday, August 30, 1848. ti" V The officer hesitated, and said he did not, but some of ' the housekeepers in the lane had complained of the nuisance caused by such persons as the prisoner. H° did not see him annoy anybody. Mr. Covina —lie is charged in the police-sheet with having caused an annoyance and obstruction. A shopkeeper here said he was constantly annoyed by the prisoner and other vendors of fruit and vegetables standing before his door selling their goods, and called upon the bench to punish the prisoner. Mr. COMBE — Nonsense! poor persons like this boy must get a living by some means or other. Was ho standing on the footway with his property? Constable — No, on the carriage -way, your Worship. Mr. COMNE (to the shopkeeper)—Before I can punish, I must have some specific charge proved. You shop keepers don't like these people to stand before or near your houses, because they sell their articles cheaper and equally as good as you can. Is Leather-lane not a kind of marketplace? The question was answered in the affirmative. Mr. COMBE then said that whilst poor persons were striving to obtain an honest livelihood in a legal and peaceable manner, instead of being interfered with by the police or any one else, they ought to be protected. He could not think of punishing a poor boy on such s frivolous accusation, and must therefore discharge him. A young woman, who has been repeatedly in custody on charges of assault and of uttering counterfeit coin, applied for the protection and assistance of the Magis trate, under the following circumstances:— With tears in her eyes, she admitted that she had been guilty of smashing and other disreputable prac tices, but she had undergone the penalty of the law on several occasions. She was now married, and had 8 child, and had resolved on leading an industrious and honest life in future, for which purpose she had saved sufficient money to purchase a little stock of fish, vege tables, &c., and took up her position in Leather-lane, Holborn. She had no doubt she would succeed very well were it not for the interference of the police, who were constantly annoying her and upbraiding her for her former conduct, and ordering her about without any cause. All that she now required of the magistrate was his sanction to enable her to sit with her stall in Leather lane, without being subject to annoyance from the police, unless she deserved it. The AIA.GISTRATE said he:had no authority or power to sanction her in selling her goods on any particular, spot ; but he would say that if she was unnecessarily and vexatiously interfered with, and could prove that fact, she should have every protection that he could afford her. She thanked his Worship, and then left the court. LAMBETH. Joseph May, who stood remanded from a former day, on a charge of shamefUlly neglecting and ill-using his three children, was brought before Mr. Norton for final examination. 1 ; - ! 7 UN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY _EVENING, AUGUST 30, 1848. ~.1 s.e, I,„ NI 1( 4 P.. 1 , rt.„ . IZI .4ktre their lingt IT, I ftt %IN , 141 a Cer,-o' %it** tt USt it,