The Sun. — London, England, 1835-08-29 00:00:00

- . ~~- the ealunan: ceeding& es which had been th rown out aga i nst t h e i r pro - Mr. moved the _previous question, but after a few 'words from Mr. Robertson, Baillies Thomson and Donaldson, mut the Lord Provost, all in favour of the motion, the Council di.vided, when there appeared, for the motion 18---for the pre- TIOU3 question 3, DUBLIN. (FROM OUR OWN CORRESPONDENT.) rumou r r ety has b een much agitated and disturbed by a which, be it well or ill founded, has become very Prevalent amongst us, that Mr. Hudson's pony is about to be commissioned again to go in search of a Prime minister. The reckless faction of the Tories are in extacies ; for no experience can teach them, nor anY observation of the state of public sentiment warn • them, that the setting up of their horn now would be O nl Prelimin ary to a deeper and more irretrievable down- Lib ally t han any th ey h ave vet survived. The spirit of ertY, like th e spectre in the Scottish castle, seems to call from the midst of the flame—. Ance brent, twice th:rd time I'll scare ye all ;" but these senseless Tories give n o heed to its ominous denouncement. Let them but 'dance one gay hour upon the ruins, and they are co nt ent to b e bl own up the next with all unfortunate eatures that trace them in their line. Whether the lof eaders of the party in England be in like manner reckless the future it remains to be seen. They have much to se, and therefore may pause ere they commit all to the tlon s 1 aZard. But thes e worthir,s have worked their imag,ina dent 01) rteoduacsintagteallofthn fa i n o a s ticism which makes the m confi to primeval bondage. They and seer talk of reco nquering Ireland by the means which corrup tionet combinati on h ave pl ace d a t th e i r di sposa l . Give them :he sword again, and they will " Murder impossibility to make In What cannot be light work." ~,s u tvt, they are a pac k o f d esperate fools, leagued to per in in a di s h onest cause ; and more danger is to be ap rteh'3nded from the rage of such knaves than from even greater rogues who yet have , 4 wit in their anger." If the Registry Bill be suffered to come out of the nb' Zip " Den unmaimed, we may laugh all the preparations m enaces of th e T or i es t o scorn . Th e b ase art ifi ces b y r. O l they h ave b een enabled, in too many cases, to _ n dle enti re sect i ons of independent electors out of their ---nac hises will then avail them no longer. They must be d 'conte nt to fight their battle at the hustings without th e nz4r resort of a congenial Committee ; and on that ground, with the blessing of God, will we beat them 'wherever they show their faces. Zlt is ludicrous to see with what smirking and smiling the Peeted b rea k -up of the Government has caused among e ignorant small-fry in this town. The Aldermen are -ettl ellY Putting on their fierce looks again, and beginning to " Clank their chains In transport and rude harmony." The Recorder Slrtw stalks with more unconscionable b ,, --- ; r tu,es and higher ' looks • not however without a certain . I ; s s n. ing of the eyelid, which seems to say that the wish is the n„ re assud than the hope. Johnny M'Crea skips al ong flags as if he could fly. He rises on the toe—That spirit of his Si r - In aspirati on lif ts hi m f rom th e ear th. Harcourt Lees wears his galligaskms with an air ; ; :i n Q a ce rta i n eloquent and Conservative butcher, who is a 1 2 a s hindd hand at k nocking the brains out of an argument, has gi.ed the price of legs of mutton a penny a pound, specu m an th e return of Lord Haddington, who, on a prin liGe a n i f . Politic a l economy, h as a note d penchant for such T u ds• .In th e meanw hil e I d evout l y pray t h at all this of t h e the mere m i rage o f party , an d t h at t h e i nte lli gence e e nsu in g wee k may restore the personages aforesaid to ti demure demure carriage, and a more Christian-like re s i gna - I n be def te t hat fate, which w h e th er it s h a ll come thi s year or at d ur i ng the struggles of another stormy Session, yond yea or nay, most inevitable. BELFAST ELECTION. "unb C LOSE OF THE POLL—T UESDAr ar Tennen t d tt i e r n nent resigned in the evening. Dunbar was to ha ve b een Nc t r i ed the sitting Member yesterday. felt ca 1 a lleu ar d e much surprised at s uc h a resu l t . If M r. T ennent vits pon to resign upon the g roun d o f qua lifi cat i on, he ‘vouir t e right not to continue a vexa ti ous contest. B ut he to v." nev ertheless be most inexcusable i n no t h av i ng l oo k e d r ot r m atter in ti me . W e con f ess we d o t hi nk this can a ~unve been the g roun d, considering that he was onc e b e f ore ~aridate, and th a t t hi s po i nt of qualification' is one which h as tii t i l e 111 ' 1 01 noise in the world. We look for an explanati on much interest. Dublin Morning Register of Thursday. 80 HOUSE OF LORDS. (Befo re theAPPEALS. Earl of SHAFTESBURY, Lords LYNDHURST, BROUGHAM, and other Peers.) S , L ,&OY WARRENDE R V . SIR GEORGE WARRENDEIL, ohj e i: kr rAt Pee rs atten d ed to hear this important judgment, day - 'Ad been daily e xp ec t e d s i nce i ts i nterrupt i on on Mon io r . ' A d them were the Marquis of Ormond, th e E ar l s ZI I ,"•°: 41 Yn and Mansfield, Lords Calthorp, Canterbury, Col. the ' "e. The Earl of Falmouth stood in the space beyond cr-toolsack and below the throne, from whence no Peers speak, 41e ,, a,t;y part in the business of the House. Noi.l` ' 34o ootiANi read his iudgment on the case, which . oc lia' about an hour and a 'quarter in delivery, and contained of the and very interesting review of the spirit and effects _ktthe lEt ly of marri •Te and divorce as prevailing not only in - ~tkd and England, but over all Europe. The facts of the Il l ; rre briefly narrated by his Lordship at the opening. liee-aias of a widow to dower, and the defence which . a • stito:'ed might make to the charge of felony under the . circum at ''' e s of a second marria,e, were also dwelt on and illustrated great length and with considerable legal ability Lord. lipp In conclusion his Lordship moved that the interlocutor 1 L e : 1 , 1 ( 1 (1 14 1 'mm be affirmed. 4 , ea r „ ~ l'NoutinsT said that the judgment just read by his litat e -e t ,' Friend contained such a full and clear review of the Il houl,l °. D ote ease and of the 'law which applied to it, that he *o,iki- feel it necessary to trouble their Lordships. . .He of the lioerefore, advise their Lordships to affirm the decision 't he urt b e l ow. the wttlo,estion was then put by the Earl of SHAFTESBURY from t heot at'Z i ti c t i , and the ju - dgment agreed to non. con. Judg liAt A v --II ... of PROMISE of MARRIAGE. . .ester c b, t i b ,a e l e i t e i ti e e d s: , ,t_i 1. 1 n' e g e it p.p a r e llv t t i v d o y lv lar —m"— g y, we a m cc a o e m , p n a i n e i e e t d ee b n y her daughter, an years of age, ap olVicael..koeffir7anen:d a county Magistrate, at the Lam. for their advice and assistance under Th e °wing s oinevvhat singular circumstances : Llad, applicant stated that shortly after the death of hertitheus beigyvviich took place ten months ago, a gentleman • lii, thenrho o d of Step paid his addresses to her daughter, 414 00frer ecorn.panied her; and, after a little time, made her tlf 4 dis of Marriage. At that time, however, in consequence tighter cla tt „ Parity in their ages, the match was broken off, and . 1 d the .....er f and herself proceeded to Colchester, and resided t 0 r w e h 401 11 that period to a few weeks ago. The gentleman co ,r Whom she had before alluded, notwithstanding, kept up a IA i_s:Pondenco with her daughter, and six weeks ago he wrote w at iler t o t u request that she would instantly come to town, as he sn. ri " a Ken a house for her use, and promising the instant she , t , ved to publish the banns and marry her as soon as possible. :roul'rider this solemn promise her daughter and herself, for she d not, of course allow her under such circumstances to f or te alone, after making the necessary preparations, started i f t t• tow n ; and on their arrival, took possession of the house g lob had been taken for their reception. As soon as they -e re sett led her daughter and herself urged the gentleman to C 1) ,, 11 t op the ba nns an d per f orm his promise ; but he not only ' g l ected to do so, but was , t h ey understood, on the point of cog married to anoth er p erson. *ce„, t 'ea, the officer in waiting, h ere remarked that he under 'll3d from the parties, before he h a d ta k en them before their r ships, that the gentlem an i n quest i on is 70 years of age. " tt.4lPplicant—Oh, he i s no t qu i te so much as that ; I should 1 74 k he i s not more than sixty.—(Laughter.) r. WALKE R to the applicant—You appear to have acted 8041ewhat foolishly in the matter ; you, in the first place, say from n at Yell Prevented your daught er f rom marry i ng this old man e his a° ate with her g , and yet you afterwa r d s encourage her in it, and yourself to this old t mman. Z_ a hoi pplicant—The fact was thay daughter was d eterm i ne d ng him, an d h a d made up her mind to come to him, I n i c a l I Could not, unde r th e c i rcumstances, let her go alone. If :d I don't know what might have been the consequence. n 4 WALKER. This might have be en very proper ; b ut has Zseold mar , done a n y t hi ng more t h an merely break his pro ; for if not, we, as Magistrates, have nothing to do in the dreadful?'s? A pplicant —..illy daughter and myself have been teoy annoyed by his children coming to our house, and c„, 'ung arid making all sorts of derision of us, and singing all il a i ll e n er, of songs, such as " All round my hat I years a green , Ici w, ' in reference to my daughter's disappointment, as the L,.T" is going to marry another. —( Laughter.) Besides, he at °Ys persons to throw stones at our doors and windows, ivhas left me to pay the rent for the house he had taken. t ies I r• `V me remarked that it was altogether a foolish busi- R S ' a lld he didd not think it would be at all assisting the ap jeftait and her aughter in granting her a summons. agistrate (to the daughter) —You don't seem to be break t•LYour heart for your blighted hopes.—( Laughter. ) t•e"lottoghter (holding down her head, and after much hesita. -.... 1 ( ..:-", 1 1 1 V. hy, no, Sir, but it is a cruel thing to be treated so. 'ri; I ng.) He has acted a very faithless part towards . me. ile,,_, Other said as it appeared to be the . opinion of . the she at she could not do much by summoning the parties,_ a b a. l9tikt not press for a summons, but must make the best of ,r%business by leaving the neighbourhood. appanre applicant and her daughter then withdrew, the latter te puninst good deal dleesaslideivsearp.pointed that nothing could be done .........—._____,___ l' artid many i!.ge-shooting commences on Monday, and of No P;t ties have left town to enjoy the sport. Mr. Coke, litAkh r 'llt, will, as usual, have a large party of friends at 914 th e m ' and will entertain a succession of visitors through greater part of the season. PATtOS day.) ever held y Room , the West of .peti.. lion Dill I by Ml . ' f Knells, 1 general —I need 3 it 110 0. otninonsf elated to ords had ,uld have to-night. feelings s sent ey Icting o pieces. _(much ds.") :peering) That of Ts) W e all parts q ualified -they are he assist- loved tue rporations nons, wag and was ciion and lave agne have ?c , as a gLit e. it 0, t attenir l given to ions they iples have L majori t y ges of the olution• to Cha E l and via s the 011 " ,ed touch much ar s , which Our O P' 11 on oln 0 Ana share in us as, so calie t cheer' rm of re - Cheers.) ave been —( Loud on : nv v , l l nd ough t Ltely for to accept reek ; it orth our ,e Peen tat after' 3larsha' .ernen be ; to el aid dor° „ House o f 0 1 . 1 ney Wit!. other 11- uthorizes mpliance re'6°' ;elf, a nj ,, . mo re, now, Thei, allowed P l i a o f ;sed - t de e P t on ce ‘nar &trio' i u tioll# COURT CIRCULAR. Her Majesty and suite left Windsor Castle yesterday morn ing in two carriages for the Queen's Lodge in Bushey Park. Prince Ernest of Hesse Phillipsthal left town at 11 o'clock yesterday morning and joined the Queen. Her Majesty and party spent the day and dined at Bushey Park, and afterwards returned to Windsor Castle. The Duke and Prince George of Cambridgo left town at half-past two o'clock yesterday afternoon, in a carriage and four, on a visit to their Majesties at Windsor Castle. The Rev. Mr. Wood, Preceptor to Prince George, and Baron Knesebeck, followed in a second carriage. Mr. J. Pattison, M. P., Governor of the Bank; Mr. Adam, Accountant-General of the Court of Chancery; and Mr. Higham, Secretary and Comptroller-General of the National Debt Reduction Office, had an interview yesterday with the Chancellor of the Exchequer, at his office in Downing-street. Count Pozzo di Borgo, the Russian Ambassador, visited Viscount Palmerston yesterday, at the Foreign-office. Mr. O'Connell, Mr. Ruthven, and a Deputation, had an in terview, respecting the spirit license duties, with the Chan cellor of the Exchequer yesterday. Mr. Burge, Agent for Jamaica, and Mr. Dillwyn had inter views yesterday with Mr. Poulctt Thomson, at the office of Board of Trade. The Commander of the Forces visited Viscount Melbourne yesterday. s The Earl of Belmore had an interview yesterday with Lord Glenelg, at the Colonial-office. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. Silt,— My attention has been directed to a leading article in the Times of yesterday, which is very smart, at the expense of an alleged proposal of mine for "a tax upon salmon," as a substitute for the stamp-duty upon newspapers. As it is possible that these comments may induce some persons to believe that a proposal of the kind really was made by me, and as I don't know whether the Times would correct its mis statement at my request, I shall feel much obliged to you if you will allow me to avail myself of your columns, in order to deny that I said a word about salmon in the debate on the newspaper duty, or seriously recommended any substitute what ever for that tax. What I said was, "that if a deficiency in the revenue, to the amount of 100,0001. per annum, should re sult from a reduction of the stamp-duty, I had no doubt that Ministers would be perfectly ready to make up that sum by a tax on salaries, or some other equally popular tax." I am, Sir, your obedient servant, CHARLES BULLER, Jun. 1, Queen-square-place, Westminster, Friday, August 28. SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. STO URBRID GE RA CES.—TVED.vEsa4 r. The Ladies Purse of 301., added to a Sweepstakes of 5 sm. each. Heats, two miles. Mr. Trow na. Lentullus, 3 yrs 7st Arthur, jun 1 1 Mr. Brown na. Tom Basford, 3 yrs, 7st. 31b ...... 2 2 A Cup Stakes of 100 sows., by subscription of 10 sows. each ; the second to save his stake. Three miles. Mr. Cooke's Miss Camarine, Bst. lib ... walked over The Worcestershire Stakes of 10 sows. each, with 20 added by the Members for the Eastern Division of the County. Two mile heats. Lord Ward na. Lofty, 6 yrs, list. 12lb Arthur 1 1 Mr. H. Goodricke no. Coquette, aged, list. 41b. 2 2 A Handicap of 5 sows. each, with 30 added. One mile and a quarter. 5 subs. Mr. Beardsworth's Brother to Derby, 4 yrs ...Spring 1 Mr. J. Jones's Maria, 4 yrs, 7st. 121 b... 2 CANTERBURY RACES, WEDNESDAY. The County Subscription Plate of 100 sovs., given by the Noble men and Gentlemen of the County. Three yrs old, 7st. 41b ; four, Bst. 61b ; five, 9st. 51b ; six and aged, 9st. 31b ; mares and geldings allowed 31b. Heats, two miles. The winner of a Plate or Sweepstakes this year, before or after naming, to carry 31b., of two, 51b., of three, 71b. extra. - The winner to be sold for 300 sovs., if demanded, &c. Lord Fordwich na. Daniel, 3 yrs Mr. Watson na. Olympic, 4 yrs 2 2 Lord Tavistock na. The Witch, aged 5 3 Lord A. Conyngham's Zitella, 4 yrs... 3 4 Mr. Lushington na. ch. f. by Eryx, aged The following also started, but were not placed :—B. c. Lur cher, 3 yrs ; Pholus, 4 yrs ; Emir, 5 yrs ; and Bodice, 4 yrs. The Barham Down Plate of 501., given as above. Three yrs old, 7st. 51b ; four, Bst. 61b ; five, 9st. ; six and aged, 9st. 31b ; mares, &c., allowed 31b. The winner to be sold for 100 sovs., if de manded, &c. All other conditions the same as above. Mr. Lushingeon's Conservative, 3 yrs Sir B. Bridges na. Stockwell Lass, 4 yrs .. 2 2 Lord A. Conyngham's Festival, 4 yrs Mr. Watson na. Miss Ellen, 4 yrs 5 4 Mr. Fector na. Ennis, 5 yrs Sir W. Geary na Glencairne, aged The following also started, but were not placed .—Robinhood 6 yrs, and Mvrrha, 5 yrs. THURSDAY. His Majesty's Plate of 100 gs. ; three yrs old, Bst. 21b ; four, 91t. 61b ; five, 80st ; six and aged, lOst. 31b. Heats, two miles. Mr. Theobald's Rockingham, 5 yrs walked over A Plate of 50 sovs., given by the City of Canterbury ; the winner of one Plate or Sweepstakes this year, before or after naming, to carry 41b ; of two, 71b ; of three, 101 b. extra ; the other weights some as for the County Plate. The winner to be sold for 200 soya. if demanded. Heats, two miles. Lord Stradbroke's Daniel, 3 yrs Mr. Hodge's Lurcher, 3 yrs ,... .... 1 2 2 Mr. Stracey:s Bodice, 4 yrs... 3 4 3 Ai r . Shellei's Schoolmista:ess, 4 yrs... ...... . .... 2 3dr NORTHAMPTON RACES, TmEnunAr. The Yeomanry Cup. Heats. Mr. Flesher's Saccharina, 12st. 31b ... ...... Owner 1 1 Mr. Westley's Palmerin, 12st t. 2 2 Mr. Keet's Premier, 12st. Mr. Frost's Leeway, lOst. 91b Mr. Holloway's Chance, lOst. 91b... 5 dr The County Plate. Mr. Smith's Ganges Wakefield 1 2 1 Mr. Sowerhy's Araryatt, 7st. 61b 2 1 2 Mr. Coleman's Amadon, Bst. 101 b His Majesty's Plate of 100 gs. Lord Exeter's Datura, lOst Wakefield 1 Mr. Batson's Revelry, 9st. 91b 2 Mr. Greville's Daere, 9st. llb 3 'eepstakes of 5 sovs. each, with 30 added, given by the Innkeepers. Mr. Whalley's Emily, Bst. Ilb 1 1 Mr. Flesher's Saccharina, Bst. 61b 2 2 Mr. Arnold's Blue Bell 6st. 41b 3 3 Mr. Shaw's Cricket Ball, Bst. 61b 4 dr PLYMOUTH, DEV ONP ORT, AND CORNWALL RACES, THURSDAy. Produce Stakes of 25 sore. each, 10 ft. One mile. M. Wreford's Termagant, 4 yrs, Bst. 41b 1 Mr. W. Ley's Media, 3 yrs, Bst. 41b 2 The Saltram Stakes of 25 sovs. each. Once round and a distance The second horse to save his stake. 41 subs. Sir L. Glyn names Goldfringe, 4 yrs, 7st. 81b ... 1 Sir W. Mulesworth names Waresti, 3 yrs, sst. 101 b... 2 Sweepstakes of 10 sovs. each. Heats, two miles and a distance. 14 subs. _ _ _ _ ......_. Mr. Wreford's Freedom, 4 yrs The United Service Plate of 501., given by the Officers of Ply mouth, Devonport, and Stonehouse. Heats, once round. Mr. Wreford's Freedom, 4 yrs, Bst. 121 b Colonel Gilbert's Lely, aged, 9st 111 b Mr. Biggs's De Beriot, 3 yrs, ist. 71b The Handicap of 50 sous., given by the Town of Plymouth. Heats, one mile. Sir E. Baker's Spume, 4 yrs, 9st. 31b 3 1 1 Mr. Wilkins's Mimic, Est 2 2 2 Mr. Wreford's Termagant, 7st 1 4 3 Mr. Moore's Grey Middleham, 6st 7lb ... ...... 4 3 4 Colonel Gilbert's Denbics, Bst. 121 b 5 dr DEATH OF FILHO DA PUTA. This old favourite and celebrated horse died on Tuesday, at the Rock Stables, near Mansfield. He has been for nearly twenty years the property of Thomas Houldsworth, Esq., M.P., who purchased him of Si r Willi am M axwe ll, a f ter winning- the Doncaster St. Leger in 1815. Filho was got by Haphazard, dam Mrs. Barnet, by Waxy ; granddam by Wood pecker ; great granddam Heinal, by Squirrel ; great great granddam Principessa, by Blank—Cullen Arabian—Grise wood's Lady Thigh, by Partner—Greyhound—Sophonisba's dam, by the Curwen Bay Barb. As a stallion, Filho da Puta ranked among the first-raters ; he was sire of Birmingham (winner of the Doncaster St. Leger in 1830), Sherwood, Fille de Joie, Miller of Mansfield, Palatine, Conductor, Escape, Hajji Baba, Whittington, Arachne, Doctor Faustus, Elephant, Fanny Davies, Bessy Bedlam, Jocko, Lambtonian, Leda, Murphy, Colwick, Giovanni, Ludlow, &c. &c. AQUATICS. LYONS' SILVER CUM—The contest of yesterday amongst the Gentlemen of Lyons' subscription room was very excel lently attended, and by none but those of the first respectabi lity. Two silver cups were the award of victory, and nine pair, (with double sculls) were the competitors. At five o'clock they were all in trim, and in a few minutes afterwards they were all off. It was a good and clear start, and until arrival at the Horseferry there was no difference perceptible. There Mr. Smith and his partner had the advantage. Mr. Lyons and Mr. Padden were close on their stern, and Mr. Robinson and his partner were in advance of the others. The leading pair were well up, they had time to ease, and if any thing had occurred picking up could have been adopted. The Gentlemen made their appearance at Putney Bridge about twenty minutes to six---Mr. Smith and Mr. Blake, 1 ; Mr. Lyons and Mr. Padden, 2 ; Mr. Cook and Mr. Brooker, 3 ; Mr. Campbell and Mr. Robinson, 4 ; Mr. Williams and Mr. Galloway, 5 ; Mr. G. Williams and Mr. Melland, 6 ; Mr. Caruthers and Mr. Murray, 7 ; Mr. Ralph and Mr. Conolly, 8; Mr. Wilks and Mr. Keel, 9. It was well rowed, and but little difference existed on the coming in. It was won by a minute and a quarter. The Gentlemen adjourned to Avis's, the Bells Tavern. PROMOTION IN THE BRITISH ARNIY.—The United Service Journal for September has an article on this subject which must prove highly interesting to the profession which it more immediately concerns. It is obvious that there is a period fast approaching when a greater degree of libe rality must be exercised in providing for old officers, or some means adopted for facilitating the course of promotion, in order to maintain that degree of efficiency among the higher ranks which is absolutely essential in every army. The same Number contains a valuable contribution from the pen of Capt. Basil Hall, entitled " Notices on the Austrian Army," the continuation of several highly entertaining papers re cently commenced in this Journal, namely, " Rough Sketches of Malta and London"—" Leaves from my Log Book" " Sketches of the Cape de Verd Islands" —besides a variety of other exciting narratives. The General Steam Navigation Company's mail packet, the William Jollijfe, from Hamburg, arrived off the Custom House, yesterday, at one o'clock, '.la. . __._._ ~JL._ _ ITIE SUN', _LONDON, SATURDAY, AITGUST 29, ISM IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. appointed by the Crown to inquire into the means of divine worship afforded by the Church of Scotland, and other mat ters connected with it; and they proceeded to state that they thought it to be their duty respectfully, but firmly to state to his Majesty's Government, that the Commission was not such as to entitle it to the attention and respect of the Church of Scotland ; for among the Commissioners were persons who were known to be against the continuation of the con nection between Church and State; and there were others who had neither the welfare nor the interest of the Church at heart ; and that the Commissioners were not such as would ensure those most deeply interested that the object of the Com mission would be carried into effect fully and fairly. A. re solution to that effect was carried in the General Assembly by a majority of 87, not less than 90 voting for it, and 3 only against it, or rather, they voted for a proposition for adjourning the consideration of the subject. This was an extremely strong proceeding for the General Assembly; for they never took part in political discussions, unless they considered the interests of religion deeply involved. Of the majority 50 were clergymen and 40 were laymen, who were elders of the Church, men of all parties and shades of political opinion. The resolution thus carried was proposed by a rev. gentleman, who was known as a Liberal, and entertained similar political opinions to the Noble Viscount. The three persons who objected to the re solution were Whig attorneys, or as they were called in Scotland writers to the signet ; and no others could be found to do so. When the terms of the Commission were made known the feeling of opposition was strengthened instead of being diminished. He did not object to persons entertaining the same political opinions as the Noble Viscount being put on the Commission, but he thought that no person should be named on it who was not a friend to the Church of Scotland. He would, indeed, rather than not, that the political friends of the Noble Viscount were placed on it. He did not object to even Dissenters being placed on it, for he hoped and believed that there were many Dissenters who were not hostile to the Church of Scotland. But some of the Commissioners were not only known to be hostile to the Church of Scotland, but to the continuance of all establishments. He regarded it as a complete mockery to put persons in a Commission to inquire into the propriety of extending the endowments of the Church of Scotland who were enemies to the continuation of any esta blishments. He was unwilling to name any of the persons he thus alluded to as opposed to the Church, but as some doubt was entertained by the Noble Viscount when he formerly alluded to the subject, he (the Earl of Aberdeen) had brought down a book written by one of the gentlemen to whom he alluded. This work was ably written, and contained by far the best arguments he had met with in favour of what was called the voluntary Church principle; it was written with great moderation, but at the same time it was manifest that _the writer was most decidedly hostile to any establishment ; he stated that an endowed Church was an unjust encroachment. (The Noble Earl then proceeded to read an extract from, as we understood, Mr. Dick's work on Church Government.) He regarded the majority of these Commissioners as entertaining opinions adverse to the Church of Scotland. He also objected to this Commission, because it interfered with the form of Presbyterian church government in Scotland. He contended that the functions given to these Commissioners belonged to the Church itself. The whole authority of the Church was vested in the General Assembly. The King was not even visitor of the Church of Scotland, and had no au thority whatever in it. It was also objectionable that these Commissioners were directed to inquire not only into the funds available for the purposes of the Established Church, but also into the tithes, or teinds, as they were called in Scotland. Nearly all these were the property of laymen, and ought no more to be inquired into than any estates belonging to any Noble Lord. lie ventured to say, without fear of contradic tion, that the powers entrusted to this Commission were per fectly illegal. A Commission might be appointed to inquire into this subject, which would not cost the country one farthing —namely, by referring the inquiry to the Commissioners that had been appointed to superintend the building of Churches in the Highlands. He was a member of the Church of Scot land, and had long been a ruling elder of it, and although he had not lately taken an active part as an elder, he was most warmly attached to the Church. He entreated, at all events, that the subject should be looked upon without any regard to party considerations ; and if the Noble Viscount found the commission had now gone too far to be withdrawn, that the Noble Viscount would at least explain the object of the Com mission, and endeavour to improve the composition of its mem bers. HOUSE OF LORDS, Auousr 28. Lord DF,NMAN took his seat on the Woolsack at five o'clock PRISONERS' COUNSEL BILL. Lord DENMAN said there were three Bills before the House to which he begged to call their Lordships' attention. The first was the Prisoners' Counsel Bill, which had been referred to a Select Committee, before whom much evidence had been taken, but he had not yet had an opportunity of seeing it. Of course their Lordships could not now form any judgment upon it, now when the Session was so far.advanced.—( Hear, hear.) Under those circum stances he gave notice that on the next stage of the Bill he would move that it be deferred for six months. —( Hear, hear.) The next Bill to which he would refer, was one making offences against the person felony, for the purpose ofincreasing the punishment; that Bill depended so much upon the preceding one that he would follow the same course as with it. The next Bill to which he wished to refer was one for abolishing capital punishments in cases of stealing letters, and sacrilege. He had no objection to that Bill, and would propose that it be forwarded its stage to-morrow. H e had had an interview with the Lord Advocate as to the neces sity of the provisions being, extended to Scotland ; but he thought it unnecessary. He had also seen the Attorney-G e _ neral for Ireland, who thought it would be a great benefit if the Bill included Ireland, and he would propose a clause so to extend it. Lord BROUGHAM entirely agreed in all that had fallen from his Noble and Learned Friend. As to the Bill for allow. ing counsel to prisoners in cases of felony, though he had moved the Bill in that House, still, after hearing the evi dence given before the Committee by some of the most eminent counsel—of Mr. Phillips, who had great experience at the Old Bailey, and who was well known as a very warm friend to the liberty of the subject, and also of his Noble Friend ( Radnor), who was a Recorder—(Laughter)—and a Ma gistrate of great standing, he was bound to say that evidence now pressed upon his mind. Under these circumstances he would not think he would be doing his duty if he pressed forward the Bill. The Earl of HA RR 0 WBY wished to say a few words upon that Bill which the Noble Lord on the Woolsack was in tending to press forward.--( Hear, hear.) How was it possible for their Lordships to make up their minds at all upon the subject : they had no ground upon which to go? They were now called upon to extend that Bill to Ireland upon the mere ipso dixit of the Learned Gentleman, the Attorney- General, as given by the Learned Lord upon the Woolsack. He wished to call the attention of the House to the state to which they were reduced, and he hoped some resolution would be come to, in order to secure their having important Bills sent up to them in proper time in the Session. After a few words from Lord DENMAN and the Earl of HAR- Rower, Lord CLONCURRY said that generally they should le gislate for both countries, and the exception should be only when particular clauses should render it improper to extend the benefit of the laws of England to Ireland. He was sorry to say that from late decisions in that House he was led to doubt whether the same consideration and good feeling was extended to both countries. Nothing had shocked him so much as the decision of the House upon a Bill of great importance, that for improving the constabulary force of Ire land,--( Hear.) That body, which was of the greatest import ance, had by m►smanagement and the too great delicacy of the Government been perverted into a partizan force, and the peace of the country was thus put in jeopardy. He was afraid that the Ministry who brought it forward had influenced their de cision more than the calm consideration of the subject.— ( Hear, hear.) That measure had been recommended by every Government of every political feeling in Ireland for a number of years, and it would be attended with great danger if the power of the police be continued, whilst it remained as it at present was—a partizan force. He lamented to see that force perverted into a body of partizans, rather than instruments of justice.--( Hear, hear.) Let them legislate for Ire land as they did for their own country, and they would have a grateful and a peaceful people ; but legislation in the manner in which he was sorry to see it on this occasion, would be giving arguments and power to the enemies of the union between the two countries, and render sorrowful those who supported it.—( Hear, hear.) The Earl of LIMERICK—It was a most extraordinary assertion of the Noble Lord, that the police force in Ireland did not answer the purpose for which it was framed ; that it was changed into an engine of faction, and that it did not preserve the peace of the country. This was the first time he ever heard such a statement. Viscount MELBOURNE was quite aware that a consi derable degree of dissatisfaction prevailed among the members of the Church of Scotland in regard to this Commission, and that the greatest possible discontent prevailed in regard to it among all classes of Dissenters, seceders, and others, who did not conform to the doctrines of the Church of Scotland, but who yet felt interested in regard to the question. Now, it appeared to him that, next to universal content in regard to a subject of this kind, perhaps the universal prevalence of discontent was the very best proof of the propriety of the choice made of this Commission ; for it was the next best proof at least of impartiality.— ( Hear, hear, hear.) The very existence of that universal discontent complained of by the Noble Earl was a proof that, in the choice of Com missioners, the Government had been strictly impartial. He admitted that it would be well if the Government could have chosen Commissioners to conduct this inquiry who would be strictly impartial in their feelings and sentiments in re gard to the Church of Scotland ; but, upon a little consideration, it would be found that such a thing was quite impossible ; for if the persons appointed Commis sioners were at all acquainted with the state of the Church, they must be either favourable to it or dissent from it. And if they were acquainted with the state of the Church, al though in that case they might be quite impartial, they would want one of the prime requisites for the office, as they would necessarily be ignorant. With regard to the book alluded to by the Noble Earl, he considered, upon the whole, Lord CLONCURRY—I did not say so. The Earl of LIMERICK—The Noble Lord will have an opportunity of explaining. It is most irregular to interrupt me. The Noble Lord stated that the police force does not answer its purposes.—( Hear.) I deny it. All persons agree on the efficacy of that force, and that it has been of the greatest service in preserving the peace of Ireland. Lord DUNCANNON—There is no question before the House.—( Hear, hear.) I move the third reading of the Sheriffs' (Ireland) Bill. The Duke of WELLINGTON— I have one observation to make. The Noble Lord (Cloncurry) stated that the deci sion on the Constabulary Force (Ireland) Bill, has been influ enced by party motives. Now, to impute motives to any Noble Lord, or to any number of Noble Lords, is not quite regular. I certainly did not vote against the Bill on the ground which the Noble Lord imputes to me, and those who voted with me. The Sheriffs (Ireland) Bill was then read a third time and passed. GREAT WESTERN RAILWAY. Lord WHARNCLIFFE moved the third reading of this Bill. The Earl of BOSTON rose to oppose the Bill, but was interrupted by the Earl of Carnarvon, who whispered some thing to the Noble Lord, upon which he said that having been informed that the opponents of the Bill had given up their opposition to it, he would not oppose it. The Bill was then read a third time and passed. The Tonnage Amendment. Bill, and the Weights and Mea sures Bill were severally read a third time and passed. it was a very temperate and cautious production, and, in his opinion, it ought not to disqualify the author from taking a place in any such Commission as this was. Indeed, his im pression was, that the appointment to such a Commission as this, was the best way of mitigating those opinions ; for when a person came to inquire into the subject, he generally found reason to see that there was no good reason for the violent opinions previously entertained ; and such persons frequently turned out not the least useful servants. With respect to the objections against other gentlemen who formed the Commis sion, brought by the Noble Earl, he considered that the grounds upon which they were founded were very slender ; and he therefore would not enter into the consideration of them at present. On the whole his conviction was, that the Commis sion was as fairly and impartially constituted as in the circum stances it could possibly be. With regard to the origin of the Commission, it had entirely originated with the Church itself. A demand for a grant of money for additional church-accom modation was made by the Church of Scotland. The advo cates of the Church, in support of the grant, said that there was not sufficient accommodation for the number of worship pers who wished to attend the churches ; while those who were against the Church, or dissented from it, said there was more room in the churches which already existed than was at all necessary for those who attended them. These con trary statements were made with so much confidence upon both sides, that his Majesty's Government, before either ac ceding to or refusing the required grant, thought it prudent, to institute an inquiry. That was the primary cause of this Commission being issued, and the subject of inquiry. It was true that the subject of inquiry was afterwards somewhat ex tended beyond that originally intended ; but that was done strictly in pursuance with the wishes of the people of Scotland. The Noble Earl said that this Commission was contrary to the fundamental principles of the Church of Scotland, and it was even beyond the powers of the King, or of any other power on earth, to meddle with that Church. He (Lord Melbourne) was not exactly master of the rules and doctrines of the Church of Scotland upon this subject, and he did not mean to make an attack upon the Noble Earl in regard to them; but lie would ask the Noble Earl if he seriously meant to say, that if there was an allegation made of any abuse in any of the vital and fundamental principles of the Church of Scotland, that it would be beyond the powers of the King, or of Parliament, to issue a Commission to inquire into such an allegation ? That was a reductio ad absurdum.—(Hear, hear.) It was holding out higher pretensions for the Church of Scotland than was ever attempted by the Roman Catholic Church in her proudest days.--( Hear, hear.) It was precisely the objection which the Roman Catholic Church brought against the Reformation. (Hear, hear.) For the Roman Catholic Church then said the laity cannot reform the Church, but the Church must reform itself.---( Cheers.) It was precisely the doctrine of the Church of Rome in regard to the Reformation. It was no other and no less. He considered that such a proposition was not only against law, but against reason and common sense.— (Hear, hear.) The same might be said with regard to the property of the Scotch Church.--(" No, no !" from the Earl of Aberdeen.) Well, the subject was a good deal mixed up with Scotch law, and he did not exactly follow the statement of the Noble Earl, but at all events he understood that the property of the Scotch Church was as liable to inquiry as any other property. The Noble Earl then complained that the persons who were appointed Commissioners had been allowed the power of appointing other persons to assist them in carrying on the inquiry. But surely it must be obvious to any one that it was impossible to carry on an inquiry of this extent without some such assistance.--( Hear, hear.) But-the real question at issue was this :—the Church of Scotland de manded a grant of public money for the puipose of giving ad ditional Church accommodation. Now, if the Church of Scotland demanded a grant of public money for the purpose of carrying on spiritual instruction, had his Majesty not the right to d eman d t h at t h e Church should show that it had not already sufficient funds at its disposal for that purpose ? ( Hear, hear.) This was the ground, and the only ground, upon which this Commission was issued. It was from the zeal of the parties that the inquiry was made wider. With these views he believed that the Commission was as well chosen as it possibly could be. With regard to the powers and legality of the Commission, there seemed to be an extraordinary degree of obtuseness. It was said that it was not only illegal but nugatory. With regard to its illegality, he thought there could be no doubt that it was not so ; and as to its being nu gatory, he would only say that it was sought by themselves, and that it at least was not compulsory. He thought that the Commission was properly constituted. He regretted that it had created so much dissatisfaction and dissension, but he was in some degree consoled by feeling that the dissatisfac tion was not of a party nature, as the expression of it seemed general. It sometimes happened, however, that very general dissatisfaction gave place to very general satisfaction, and that might perhaps be the case in the present intance. He there fore hoped that it would yet be found that this Commission would fulfil, to the satisfaction of every party, all the ends for which it was constituted, and that without any of the evils or misfortunes which were so strongly anticipated by the Noble H ear .) The Earl of , HADDINGTON said that Parliament had no right to intorfere`with the Church of Scotland, either in MUNICIPAL CORPORATION BILL. Viscount MELBOURNE moved that this Bill be read a liird time. ---- The Earl of WINC HI LSE A moved as an amendment, :hat the Bill be read a third time this day six months. The House divided, when there appeared For the third reading For the amendment, that it be read that day six months Majority for passing the Bill On the question that the Bill do pass, Several verbal amendments were proposed and adopted. The Bill was then passed. Lord MELBOURNE presented a petition from Ramsgate, in which the petitioners expressed their entire dissatisfaction with the Bill as it now stood. Lord LYNDHURST was about to offer some obseiva tions iclative to the petition ; when Lord DENMAN begged to interrupt the Noble and Learned Lord. He bad omitted to put the question, that a Message be sent to the House of Commons, acquainting them that the House of Lords had passed the Bill with amend ments, to which they desired the concurrence of the Commons. The question was then put and agreed to. Lord LYNDHURST said, with reference to the petition presented by the Noble Viscount, he had received a letter that morning, stating that the 50 persons by whom the pe_ tition had been signed, would be got to meet upon any occa sion of revolution or anarchy.—( Oh, oh.) After a few words from the Duke of WELLINGTON the petition was laid on the table. IMPRISONMENT FOR DEBT BILL. Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from the pri. soners confined for debt in York Castle, complaining of the delay that had taken place in passing the Imprisonment for Debt Bill. Lord LYNDHURST remarked, that he bad received se veral letters complaining of the present state of the law on this subject, and alluding to the hopes that were entertained that it would be altered during the present Session. The Bill, however, which had been sent up from the other House was in such a shape that it could not possibly pass during the pre sent Session, if the least consideration was to be given to the matter by their Lordships. Lord BROUGHAM concurred with his Noble and Learned Friend in thinking that it was not possible to get the Bill through Parliament this Session ; but still he could not help sympathising with the persons whose case was set forth in the petition laid on the table. The Noble and Learned Lord then presented a petition from Thomas Clark, who stated that he had been unjustly confined in prison for thirty-eight years, for a debt which he stated he never contracted, and prayed that the Imprisonment for Debt Bill might pass. Lord LYNDHURST stated, that this person was impri soned under the judgment of a Court of Law, and would not submit, because he entertained the opinion that the Court had pronounced an incorrect judgment. The petition was then laid on the table. MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS BILL. The Marquis of BRE AD ALBANE presented a petition from a place in Scotland, the name of which we could not hear, praying their Lordships to pass the Municipal Reform Bill in the shape that it had been sent up from the other House. The petition was most numerously and respectably signed. He was satisfied the Scotch Municipal Bill worked most admirably---( Hear, hear)—and he felt bound to observe, that he never was more astonished, in the whole of his Par liamentary career, than at the attacks thrown out against the Town-councils elected under the Scotch Municipal Corpora tions Bill. The petition was laid on the table. The third reading of the Arrestmcnt for Wages ( Scotland) Bill was postponed till that day three months, after a few ob servations from the Earl of ROSSLYN and Lord BROUGHAM. THE CHURCH OF SCOTLAND. The Earl of ABERDEEN rose to call the attention of their Lordships to the Commission lately appointed to inquire into the Church of Scotland. The Commission had been appointed in consequence of the numerous petitions presented to Parlia ment last year, praying for an increase of the means of ex tending Divine worship in Scotland. His Majesty's Go vernment had issued a Commission to see whether any such assistance was necessary h-i aid of the contributions which had been raised for that purpose. When the names of the Commissioners so appointed became known to him, he told the Noble Viscount that the Commission, so far from being looked upon with respect, would produce the greatest dis satisfaction throughout Scotland.--( Hear, hear.) About this time the General Assembly of the Church of Scot land met, and the members of it came to a resolution expressive of their opinion of the persons composing the Commission. It was to the effect, that the General Assembly hall recently had its attention called to the Commission lately regard to its ecclesiastical polity or discipline ; and that no wise Statesman would interfere with the Established Church of any country without any crime being imputed to it. When the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland asked for a grant of public money, no doubt his Majesty's Government had a right to inquire into the purpose for which the grant was wanted, and the truth of the statement upon which it was made. The General Assembly said that many were induced to become seceders from the Church in consequence of there being no sufficient accommodation in the churches. Now, into that allegation the Government were entitled to enquire, and might issue a Commission for that purpose; but he contended that the Commission had no right to enquire further, and that this was not only a nugatory Commission but an illegal Com mission.—( Hear.) The Noble Lord then proceeded to show that the members of the Commission were by no means friendly to the Establishment of the Church of Scotland, which was shown by one of them having refused to become a member of the General Assembly, and another having, at a public meet ing in Edinburgh, advocated the separation of the Church and State, which was the very madness of the day in Scotland, and blazed throughout the country since the passing of the Reform Bill, which was the origin of all those schisms. He could not but regret that the General Assembly had ever come to Parliament to ask a grant.—( Hear.) The Earl of MINTO said that as to the statement which was made by the Noble Earl that the number of Dissenters had increased since the passing of the Reform Bill, he gave it an unqualified contradiction, for he was persuaded that the numbers of persons connected with the Church of Scotland was greater now than it was three years ago.—( Hear, hear.) Lord FORBE S said a few words which were totally inau dible in the gallery. The Duke of ISUCCLEUCH objected to granting such extensive powers as were given by this Commission, to per sons who were totally unknown to the Church. The Marquis of lIRE AD ALBANE admired the consti tutional zeal of the Noble Duke ; but if the Commission were, as it had been said by a Noble Earl opposite, completely nugatory, of course, nothing could result from it. The dis satisfaction which had been spoken of was grounded upon the individuals composing the Commission, and yet after all only one of these individuals had been pointed out as being op posed to the Established Church. With respect to the rest of them, the only objection was that some of them were very young men. Perhaps it would have been better if men had been appointed who were older and more experienced ; at the same time he had no doubt that though young, they would give a true and faithful Report of the facts they had to inquire into ; for they had only to report on facts ; they were not called upon, he supposed, to give an opinion on the subject of their inquiry. He thought, therefore, that all that had been stated against the Commission really amounted to very little. The Marquis of BL'TE objected to the Commission, not on the narrow ground that it was illegal as applied to the Church of Scotland, but that such a Commission was in consistent with the principle of an Established Church alto gether, and, therefore, with the Established Church of Scotland. The Earl of ABERDEEN expressed his disappointment at the very little assurance which his Noble Friend (Lord Melbourne) had given him as to any alteration being made in the terms of this Commission. THE GREAT WESTERN RAILWAY BILL. -- This Bill was returned from the Common s with the Lords amendments agreed to. The Reform ( Scotland) Act Amendment Bill was read a second time. Adjourned at a quarter before nine o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS, Auausr 28. The SPEAKER took the Chair at four o'clock. MUNICIPAL REFORM. Sir SAMUEL WHALLEY presented a petition from St. Pancras, praying that that House would not pass the Appro priation Clause, until the Municipal Corporation Bill had be come law. The petitioners prayed that it might not be passed in the state in which it had lately appeared before the public ; but somewhat more like what it was when first introduced into that House. He had also a petition to present from the inhabitants of Marylebone to the same effect. It was most unfortunate for the people that certain individuals who were possessed of vast power, either to benefit or injure, were placed in that situation that they had no sympathy or feeling in common with the people. They appeared either not to know what the wishes of the people were, or to treat them with the most sovereign contempt. He regretted that the country was placed in a crisis of very great difficulty and dan ger, which no statesman could look upon without alarm, when he sav: the constitutional power of one branch of the Legisla ture discussed calmly out of doors, and the question raised of whether it was possible for the three Estates of the King dom to go on without a collision, such as all must de plore. As the Bill in its mutilated state would in a short time come before the House, he should not now en large upon the subject, because he trusted that many of the evils which had befallen it would yet be remedied. When it was before that House, it would be his (Sir S. Whalley's) duty to state what were the opinions of his constituents, and what was the course which they called upon him to adopt, as the guardian of their rights and liberties. There was one thing he could not avoid remarking upon, that the people placed too much reliance upon the powers of that House in stopping the supplies, as they had been all voted. Next Session, however, he hoped that the House would imitate the conduct of their ancestors, and make the redress of grievances and grants of money go hand in hand. The HON. MEMBER then presented a petition from the vestry of the parish of St. Pancras, on behalf of the Dorchester la bourers. MI. SINCL AIR presented petitions from various places, the names of which did not reach us, in support of the Irish Church, and against the Appropriation Clause. BONDED CORN. Sir E. CODRINGTON presented a petition from an indi vidual named Surrey, praying that corn in bond may be allowed to be ground into flour and exported duty free. The subject was one very great importance to the agricultural classes and to the interests of commerce generally. He thought the petition and the subject to which it referred of very great importance, and he trusted the Government would give it that attention which he thought it deserved. Mr. P. THOMSON said he had had the pleasure of seeing some of the Gentlemen who supported the petition, and had told them that he did not think that it would be possible to introduce a measure of such a nature without opening the door to great frauds, or what was nearly as bad, raising a suspicion of it in the minds of the agricultural classes. So long as the Corn Laws were allowed to stand as they did, he did not think it would be beneficial to interfere with the minor details, for meddling with the mat ter in any way would only unsettle the minds of the public. If in a future Session of Parliament they thought proper to alter the Corn Laws, or that foreign corn should be admitted to be ground in this country, of course the Government would turn their attention to the subject. Mr. ROBINSON would say a very few words upon the subject, because he had a motion upon the subject standing for the next session. The Right Hon. Gentleman had stated that the agriculturists would feel much alarmed at the prayer of the petition was granted—had he stated that they might be justly so, he ( Mr. Robinson) might have agreed with him, but he was much inclined to think that it was a mere preju dice upon their part. The Right lion. Gentleman was acting against his own opinion, for he had already conceded the very same principle in regard to sugar. The measure would do much good in the employment of labour and capital, and would prevent our ships from being sent many thousands of miles for the same commodity. He hoped between this and the next session of Parliament the Right Hon. Gentleman would give the subject his utmost at tention. Mr. G. F. YOUNG trusted the question would not only receive the utmost attention of the Hon. Gentleman, but also of the agricultural interest. The question resolved itself much into the same shape as that of the timber-trade--timber, under the old law, being carried from the Baltic to Halifax, there to be re-shipped for this country. He hoped if that interest did consider the matter, they would come down and support the motion of the Hon. Member for Worcester. Mr. HU AI E was exceedingly glad to hear the Hon. Gen tleman had found out the absurdities of the Corn Laws, and trusted he would support their abolition. Mr. YOUNG begged in explanation to say, that all he had said was, that it was an absurdity to prevent foreign corn be ing ground in this country. Mr. EWART said a few words which were not audible in the gallery. NAVAL OFFICERS. Sir E. CODRINGTON rose to present several petitions from naval officers, complaining of the mariner in which they had been treated by the Board of Admiralty. He was not entirely acquainted with the whole of the facts stated by the petitioners, so that he was unable to give a judgment upon them.—( Hear, hear, hear.) The Honour able Gentleman who cried " Hear" should bear in mind that these proceedings to which the petitioners referred had been carried on behind the scenes, and therefore he was unable to form a complete judgment upon them. The Hon. and Gal lant Member presented petitions from William Boyd, and Sarah Byrne (a widow of an officer), and was proceeding to make some observations when— Mr. WIL KS rose to order, and suggested that as the Gal lant Member had given notice of a motion upon this subject, he ought to content himself with presenting the petitions with out comment. The SPEAKER was of opinion that the Gallant Member might be allowed to make any comments upon the petitions by way of explanation. Sir EDWARD CODRINGTON said that he had been thrown off his guard by a taunt, or he should not have proceeded to make the observations he had delivered. The Hon. and Gallant Member presented similar petitions from Dr. Williams and Captain Edwards, and, others, and concluded by moving that they be laid on the table. Mr. L ABOU CHE RE, as the Hon. Member's motion was so soon to come on, would reserve anything he had to say till that motion was brought on. He would only observe that there were three petitions of which he never heard before. If the Hon. and Gallant Member had been kind enough to send them to him, or to inform him of them, he should have attended to them. The petitions were then laid on the table. CORPORATION BILL. Mr. CHALMERS presented a petition from the Royal Burgh of Montrose, praying that House not to pass the Muni cipal Corporation Reform Bill, as it had been altered by the House of Lords. The petition was very numerously signed. Mr. HUME supported the prayer of the petition. UNSTAMPED PUBLICATIONS. Mr. WAKLEY presented a petition from John Cleave, .the proprietor of the Weekly Police Gqzette, complaining of his house having been entered by the Sheriff of Surrey for 2001., and stating that although be had paid that sum, the whole of his property had been seized, and was about to be sold. Under these circumstances, the petitioner prayed that the property might be restored to him. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL did not oppose the pre.. sentation of the petition ; if the petitioner had conducted him.. self legally his property would be restored, but if he had acted illegally, his property would be forfeited. MUNICIPAL REFORM DILL. Mr. WILK S presented a petition from Boston, praying that the House would adhere firmly to the important przaciple laid down by them in the Bill, and reject it in the shape it was understood it would come in from the House of Lords.—(Loud cheers.) The petition also prayed that the House would at this alarming crisis adopt such measur,ls ac the exigencies of the country demanded. Nothing in his• opinion could more clearly show the determination of the people of England than what had taken place in Boston. Sorie time since he had presented a petition from that place in favour of the Municipal Reform Bill signed by two or three hundred persons; the present petition, however, was signed by upwards of I,4oo—(Cheers)—of the most influential persons in the town. The question now was whether Reforms should or should not be efficacious, and whether the represen tatives of the people of England were or were not to have the power to introduce and carry through those measures vihich they considered essential for the good of the country ?—( Cheers.) Those measures were now being des troyed. He trusted, therefore, that the House could adopt such a course as would prevent the expectations of t ::43 , people from being blighted.—( Cheers.) The people hoped th.at no thing would be done by the House towards appropriating .the public money till their rights had been secured.—(Cheers. The Dissenters had given way, and resigned their claims, on the understanding that matters of great public importance would be brought forward and carried. Not only have these great measures not been carried, but the Dissenters have been in sulted, calumniated, and placed in a worse situation than they had previously been in. By the amendments introduced in tbe Corporation Bill, they were prohibited from interfering in the business of Corporations, and thus, instead of having new pri vileges conferred on them, they had been treated in a manner that had excited their deepest indignation.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. STRUTT presented a petition from the Corporation of Derby, expressing the feelings of dismay and indignation with which the petitioners had heard of the mutilation of the Corporation Reform Bill. The petitioners stated that the conduct of the House of Lords had rendered the Bill utterly useless, and that their confidence in the hereditary legislators was considerably weakened. The Hon. Member alluded to a charge brought against the Corporation of Derby by the lion. Baronet the Member for Tamworth, when the Bill had been first introduced into that House. The charge had been founded upon the Report of the Municipal Commissioners ; but injus tice to the Corporation, he (Mr. Strutt) would say that the Report of the Commissioners alluded to a period long since passed. In proof of the feeling of excitement which was abroad in that town, he would observe that the peti tion had been carried by a majority of more than three to one. The Han. Member then presented a petition from the Borough of Ludlow, signed by GOO persons, and praying that the House would reject the amendments made by the House of Lords, and that it would not separate without taking into consideration what course it might be sidvisable to adopt, to counteract the wily and desperate attempt of the Peers to stop all Reform. He trusted the House and his Majesty's Ministers would take the prayer of the petition into their con. sideration. —( Cheers.) Sir H. HARD ING E would only_observe, that his Right Hon. Friend the Member for Tamw•orth haa not thrown any imputation upon the Corporation of Derby ; he. had merely quoted from the Report of the Commissioners.—( Hear.) Mr. STRUTT explained that he had not charged the Hon. Baronet with making the statement from himself. Mr. CHARLTON thought it a great pity that these peti.. tions had not the addresses of the persons who signed them at tached to them. The charge brought against the House of Lords was most unjustifiable.—(Cries of " Oh," and loud laughter.) He would repeat, that the conduct of those who had charged the House of Lords with unconstitutional proceedings, was most unjustifiable.—( Loud cries of " Oh, oh !") What ! (exclaimed the lion. Member with great warmth) were a set of pot-house politicians, the tag-rag, and bob-tail of the town, to charge the House of Lords with unconstitutional conduct?—( Laughter.) The House of Lords was of vast im portance in counteracting and controlling the democratic ten dency of that House, and such an accusation only betrayed the ignorance of the petitioners, and of those who cheered the petition.—( Loud cries of "Oh !" and much laughter.) Was it to be said that such persons as the petitioners should call upon that House to stop the supplies ? The well-thinking portion of the people in the town of Ludlow were de cidedly hostile to the sentiments of that petition.—(Hear, hear.) The Hon. Member proceeded to pass a high eulogium upon the respectability and character of the Corporation of Ludlow. Two thirds of the persons who had signed the peti tion were wholly unknown—some he understood had signed it three or four times, and there were even women among the number. He believed it was a prototype of many other peti tions on the same subject. Dr. BALDWIN was one of those who had cheered the Hon. Member for Derby. He did not deny the independent right of the House of Lords to introduce any amendments they thought proper, provided they did not interfere with the rights and privileges of the people. In the present case, he (Dr. Baldwin) was of opinion that they had done so, and he would therefore stigmatize their conduct as unconstitutional. Mr. HUME thought it very important that the Hon. Mem ber for Ludlow should state upon what authority he asserted that the petition had been improperly signed. Unless he did so, the statement of the Hon. Member near him must be con sidered of equally as much value.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. SC AR L ETT complained that this Bill had been car ried by a majority of Irish and Scotch Members.—(Loud cries of "Oh " from the Ministerial benches.) The Honourable Member opposite had said that the other House had interfered with the liberties of the people, but never had there been a greater attack upon the liberties of the people than was contained in that very Corporation Bill.— ( Laughter and loud cries of "Oh !") Why, therefore, should the House of Lords be attaeked for defending the liberties of the people ?—( Continued cries of " Oh, oh 1") Mr. STRUTT complimented the Hon. Member for Lud low on his new character of defender of the corporation of that town, although he had always been an opponent of it heretofore. Mr. C H ARLTON said that in reading the letter in a hurry he had made a mistake ; he had stated that a boy had signed the petition four or five times. The fact was, the letter said— that a boy had signed the petition nine times. The high bailiff of Ludlow wrote thus :—" Phillips tells me that the petition was signed nine times by one boy." He denied having cast a slur upon the Hon. Member who had alluded to him as appearing in a new character. He appeared in that character in which he ever had appeared, and ever would ap pear in as a public man. When the Corporation of Ludlow did not act according to its charter, he made it do so without having recourse to such a despicable Bill as the Corporation Bill was before it left this House.--(Laughter.) He had done his best to support the Corporation of Ludlow when it acted rightly, and when it did not he found the law strong enough to make it conform to its charter. Mr. POTTER happened to be able to bear out the state ment of the Hon. Member, in reference to his public charac ter, because he recollected that the lion. Member was a mem bar of the Birmingham Political Union, of which he ( Mr. P. )was also a member ; and he recollected also that the Hon. Mem ber was then a zealous and vehement defender of Reform, and he thought lie ought to be a little more moderate, now ho had changed sides.— ( Hear, and laughter.) Mr. CHARLTON had not the least objection to have his public conduct canvassed before that House. It was true that in former times, when he found Toryism injurious to the pub lic welfare, he supported reform • but now that Toryism was essential to the public good, he felt it his duty to support it.— ( Laughter.) He believed he was a member of the Birmingham Political Union.—( Renewed laughter.) But he was not, as the Hon. Member stated, a zealous defender of Reform. He was never in his life present at any . of the meetings of that union.---( Laughter.) But what even if he had been ? What was it for ? To promote reform.—( Cheers.) But not for the purpose of producing that agitation, and that revolution, in the promotion of which he believed the Hon. Member who had attacked him had taken a most prominent part. When he saw Reform was made nothing less than an instru ment of revolution, he did feel called upon to resist it.—( Hear. ) Mr. POTTER begged to say that he was no republican, but he was anxious for good government, which, he believed, all those who opposed Reform, intended to destroy. Mr. CHARLTON---I believe just the reverse.—(Loud laughter.) MEMI .. SPIRIT LICENSES. Mr. HAWES presented a petition from Newington, praying for an alteration in the parochial vestry law to prevent trustees from being self-elected any longer. Also a petition from Canterbury in favour of the preservation of St. Stephen's Chapel. And others from Lambeth, for the repeal of the Window Tax; ono in favour of the Bill for granting Licenses for Music and Dancing; and one against the Bill for granting Spirit Licenses to Theatres. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER assured the Hon. Member that the latter petition should receive every attention from Government. Mr. HAWES thought, under all the circumstances, the declaration of the Chancellor of the Exclalquer was as much as could be expected from him at the present moment. Mr. WILK S thought the petition that had been presented from Newington was of great importance. GENERAL DARLING. Mr. OSWALD brought up a Report from the Committee appointed to inquire into the case of General Darling, report ing that Norman M'Kean had been guilty of gross prevarica tion, in his evidence before the Committee. On the motion of Mr. NICHOLL, after some observations from Sir H. HARDINGE, Mr. O'CONNELL, and other Members, he was ordered to be taken into the custody of the Sergeast at- Arms. ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE. On the motion of Lord JOHN RUSSELL, it was agreed that the House at its rising should adjourn to twelve o'clock to-morrow. Lord JOHN RUSSELL brought up the Report of the Committee appointed to inquire into the Municipal Corpora tions in Scotland. IRON TRADE. Mr. Alderman THOMPSON wished to know from the President of the Board of Trade, what answer had been re. turned by the Hanoverian Government to the remonstrance that had been sent from the Government of this COMO"); relative to the high rate of duties on British iron. to also wished to know what had been done by the French exc.. arri eci erivg . ;rs• ge l " ,nthu- %Thie l/ sht er, whi ell ) roo t Oio der r 1110°5 doco: ture- 10 4 ,tsei f ' cos e ~I re b ails [tio lls 0011 11Ac s iy frig° `~w IBM