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- - with having mutilated or suppressed any portion of the letter. We gave it a conspicuous place, and left the reader at the tail of an article, which the same jour nal complained of as a long one, to draw his own infe rences, touching the veracity of the Rev.. Bishop, • whom we stated to have himself fernished all the Ile : • cessary evidence on the question, pro and con. The letter is, undoubtedly, one of some impor tance, and the first use to which it ought to be con verted is to illustrate the political dexterity of the learned and pious author. The Rev. Dr. Murray assures, or seems to assure Lori Melbourne, that he does not entertain the doctrines attributed to him (together with the other Popish Bishops) viz., those contained in Dens's Theology, and he appeals to " his solemn oath" in con firmation of this assurance. It would be well if Dr. Murray had also informed Lord Melbourne what was the nature of the obligation, less solemn, we take for granted, than an oath, by which he conceived himself bound to inculcate upon the members of the Roman Catholic church under his guidance, the doctrines " of the true faith," according to his own creed, and to his own opinion ; and this becomes of the more urgent consequence, because, notwithstanding another denial (or seeming denial) of the Rev. titular Archbishop, we are afraid the weight of evidence, his own evidence too, is lamentably against him, with regard to the vital fact of his having authorized, and str enuous l y recom mended, as th e best book of Popish theology that could be republished for the use of the clergy, this very work, called Dens's Theology, of which in his letter to Lord Melbourne he repudiates the doc trines, as being inconsistent with " his solemn oath." The Archbishop says, he did not " direct the work of Dens to be published," and that it was undertaken as a private speculation, " entirely at his own risk," by a respectable " bookseller," &c. 'We are really tempted to ask here whether Dr. Murray has ever graduated in one of those exquisite seminaries-which we see multi plying on every side of us, in England as well as Ire land, for perpetuating and .extending the peculiar ac complishments of that society of which one Ignatius Loyola was the founder ? Dr. Murray did not " direct" the publication I No ; but , he deliberately did that which he knew at the time would cause the publication. In conjunction with his brother titulars, in the year 1808, be officially and emphatically recom mended the publication of the work, and as the respect able publisher was to take the " risk upon himself," Dr. Murray and his reverend brethren took special care to reduce that risk to zero, by providing such an ecclesias tical market for the book as should take off two editions of 3,000 copies each, and produced a demand for more ! It would be altogether impossible to treat this or any other subject with ability more commanding than that which was displayed in the article of last night's Standard. Our vigorous and downright Contemporary has inflicted on Dr. Murray, through his own words and deeds—the deeds of other years and the professions of this--a ruthless and unperishing exposure. 'We have a Romish Bishop first reproaching the Protes tant world for that it has accused him of enterta;e . the doctrines which are found in a certain digest of theology, as being directly contrary to hi s oath. We ha ve hi m next declaring, in express terms, that he had never directed the publication of this work, or made it a text-book for his clergy. But in close juxta-position with these very solemn disclaimers, there stares- us in the face the following statement of facts, being, in truth, an unquestioned and unquestion able record of the real proceedings of this same Arch bishop—this, in one pungent sense, self-denying Pre late—which, partly as a mark of respect for our even. ing contemporary, and partly because it would be dif ficult for us, after any degree of labour, to produce the statement or the argument in an equally effective form, we here extract from the Standard of yesterday evening : " There lives in the city of Dublin a highly respectable bookseller named Coyne. This gentleman is the official book seller of the Roma., Catholic College at Maynooth ; he is also the official bookseller of the Roman Catholic usurping Bishops ; he is, in fact, the only Catholic bookseller in the Irish metropolis. At his house were held all the earlier meet ings of the Roman Catholic Association, until the fatal folly of Lord Liverpool's Government permitted that conspiracy to outgrow the accommodation that a private dwelling could afford. Now, Mr. Coyne publishes, amongst other things, an Annual Directory, with the following title—" The Ord er of reciting th e Divine Office, and o f Celebrating the Mass ; for the use of the Venerable Secular Clergy of Ireland for the year 1835 ; arranged by Patrick Woods, Presbyter. By the Order of the most Illustrious and most Reverend the Arch bishop of Dublin : and to be carefully observed by his Clergy. " Dublin, printed by Richard Coyne,- 4, Capel.stre e t, Printer and P u bli s h er to t h e Royal College, St. Patrick, Mayneoth.' " The London Gazette is evidence in a court of justice as to all the executive acts of the Crown. The statutes published by the King's printer are received in all courts of justice as conclusive evidence of the law. Why ? Because they are .the official acts of an authorized officer; as such, they are complete as legal evidence the very moment they issue from the press, without all o wi ng t h e l east delay for revisal or revo cation. How much is their weight, as moral testimony, how ever improved, when, after having passed for days, and weeks, and months, and years, without animadversion or disclaimer, . any of these documents is, from time to time, republished ? Now, apply the reason of this canon of evidence to Mr. Coy ne's Directory.' First, he is the otfcial publisher of the Roman Catholic iliirarchy. Next he publishes t' e • order' of each year, at the express command of Dr. Murray himself. Thirdly, he has been long in. the office without having incurred re proof or disavowal. Lestly, the very subect-matter of con troversy was eight or nine months printed and circulated emongst the Roman Catholic priests before ene whisper of dis claimer was • breathed against it; nor was it disclaimed until a disavowal became a matter of absolute necessity ! " Have we connected Dr. Murray sufaciently with Mr. Cones Directory ?' We suppose it will not be disputed that we have. Now let us see how this Directory' connects the Doctor with Dens's book. In the catologue annexed to the Directory,' we End the following notice : *" At a meeting of the Roman Catholic prelates of Ireland, assembl'ed in Dublin, on the 14th of Septeni!), - -, NOS, t, - ey le - emits - Ka/34 agreed, that Dens's Complete Body of Theology was the best book ou the subject - that could be republished, as enetsining the most secure guidance for such ecclesiastics as may, by reason of the peculiar circumstances of this coun try, be deprived of the opportunity of referring to public li braries, or censuiting those who may be placed in authority over them; in consequence, an edidou of this work was orderer to be :seitocd by tile present publisher, to the number of 3,00) copies.'" .OMIS On tha 14th cf September, 1808, Dr. Murray was Co reljutor Archbishop of Dubiia : he was, consequently, one of those who 61 - dered the publieation of that work, the publication of which he now demies ever having been ordered at ail! This boa ever, is not all. The notice il - eceeds to say, that the work is now (the fall of 1834) very rare, and scar ce ly t o be met with, and, i nasmuc h as his Grace. Dr. Murray, Dr. Doyle, Dr. Keating, and Dr. Kinsela, have made it the conference book for the clergy of the province of Leinster, the publisher, as well to obviate the difficulty experienced by them, as also to advance the cause of religion and morality in the other pacts of the Irish Church, is induced to reprint a limited number of copies. The supplementary matter above referred to has been added with the sanction and approbation of his Grace the most Rev. Dr. Murray.' " Here is a plain acknowledgment that the first edition of Dens was ordered by a body of whom Dr. Murray was one constituent ; and that the second edition was approved of and sanctioned by the same reverend person ; an acknow ledgement published in the official annual, by the Doctor's own official printer and publisher ; and lying at least nine months under his eye, without contradiction If he is per mitted to deny this, we must give him leave to deny his own existence I" So much for the auspices under which that work was published, with the publishing of which Dr. Murray, conscious of the above truths, and harassed likewise by the simultaneous consciousness that the doctrines of the book were no less theoretically hostile to hrs so lemn oath, th an t h e acts which the author enjoined were so many practical violations of it, protests in sub stance that he had no connection ! We used in our simplicity to believe,.and our political opinions were for many years. grievously biassed by that flattering, but false persuasion, for false it now appears—we used to believe that nothing hut the prejudice of rivalr) and traditional distrust could ascribe to any class of profeSsing Christians, that faith was not to be kept with any other Christian body who disagreed with them dcetrine. G oo d h eavens ! h ow have the men of tins gcncration—and ourselves, the least wise among them—disparaged and condemned the " wisdom of our (Protestant) ancestors !" and what a price are we now to pay for that insolent impiety ! This Dr. Murray, by the nak e d ex hibi t i on of h i s unpainted Popery, is %vorth little less than a resurrection of Wil ham of glorious memory from the dead. He shows us at once what the whole race is, by recalling to us what they ever have been. - He parades his oath, to mock us by the value he sets upon it. He abjured the oath by his attested acts, and now abjures those acts .be ./..nu:,e they are 5o many living .ac;:ucAtions of perjury. W e s;aunot now pursue this question further, .but we eliano-worrow avail - ourselves of Mr. Coyne's Off'_ cial Directory for 1835, to bring Dr. Murray into further conflict with himself, in the matter of his denial of Dens's Theology for his " text book." We may also be tempted, so far as decency will allow us, to ex hibit to those who know how to profit by the exposure, some specimens of the religious exercises which that characteristic work prescribes, and of the nature of that intercourse which the Popish Church not autho rizes only, but enjoins, between fathers-confessor and their male and female penitents.—Times. l'!;', ~, r). stIiCKS 'l'lll 11..0k S.o ,- ~ 3 :, n . Cent _teal 91 1 4 N 3 o , r Cent. Cons. 9 4 '' I'4 i,'; 3 1 -.; ;ei- Cent (.-.'9 ~ Z zi:, I)ltt3 iteil. 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THIS EVENING will be performed Auber's Opera of GUSTAVUS THE THIRD. Gustavus the Third, Mr. Cooper ; Colonel Lillienhorn, Mr- Tem, pleton ; Captain Ankarstrom, Mr. Seguin; Oscar, Miss Shirreft. Madame Arkarstrom, Miss Betts ; Arvedson, Mrs Fitzwilliarn. To conclude with, DEAF AS A POST. Tristram Sappy, Mr. Harley; Sally Maggs, Mrs. Fitzwilliam. To conclude with, MASANIELLO ; OR, TIE DUMB GIRL OF PORTICI. Masaniello, Mr. Temp n; Don Alphonse, Mr. Dtzruset. Elrira, Miss Betts ; Fenella, Mrs. Vining. FAME IN IRELAND. EMPLOYMENT OF THE IRISH POOR. UCH Members of Parliament as purpose to be of the DEPUTATION to wait upon the Right Honourable the Chancellor of the Exchequer. relative to the suggested mode of affording RELIEF to IRELAND by the EMPLOYMEN'p of the PEASANTRY, are reminded that the Deputation will as semble at the Exchequer Coffee House, New Palace-yard, on TITITIISDAY, the 9th instant, at One o'Clock precisely, and will then proceed in a b o dy t o a tt en d t h e Chancellor of the Exchequer, according to his appointment. 11, New Palace-yard. W. R. SYDNEY. HAMBURG, MAY 1835. -U7 - EINE BROTHERS, CONTRACTORS f or n . a the STATE of HAMBURG'S GREAT LOTTERIES, being requested to publish the Scheme of the approaching Sixty sixth Lottery in the English Papers, and to have Tickets on Sale, Kith Agents in England, beg to state that neither can be done, beca ,, se it is illegal for the English Newspapers to publish Foreign Lottery Schemes, and for ar.y Agents in England to sell Foreign Lottery Tickets. On the other hand, they beg to state, as it is NOT illegal for any person in England to PURCHASE Foreign Lottery Tickets, that any person desirous to purchase, on addressing them by moil, will receive a full Scheme, and any desirable infcr mation on the sulieet (Gratis), by return of post. APPROACH of 12th AUGUST, We bee- to remand the Public that NO TIME IS TO BE LOST In giving Orders, if they aro desirous to meet attention, before A RISE IN PRICE. Orders, accompanied by 10/. notes, directed to us, without delay, may still be attended to at 87., and 27. for the balance will be re turned on executing the order, by return of post. HEINE BROTHERS. Hamburg, •23d June, 1885. P. S. Direct, HEINE BROTHERS, in HAMBURG. The publication of' THE SUN :NEWSPAPER commenced this day at 21 minutes past 3 o'clock. - L._ : s~ ~~,' k~_ z "I OA , \t:11 ' cff.l ) LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, JULY 7, 1835. The Corporation Bill passed through Committee last night, and loud cheers testified the joy of the Home as the final clause was ordered to stand part of the Bill. Lord JOHN RUSSELL made several amend ments in certain clauses, which were ail agreed to. The most important was, that the capital of Corpora tion debts should be paid, as well as interest. Ano ther amendment was to the effect that Corporate Funds should not be alienated, except for the public benefit, and with the consent of the inhabitants. Certain boroughs are to be divided into wards, as follows :—lf it 'shall appear by the last acco%lA taken of the population, or upon the taking of any future account, that the popu lation of a borough shall exceed 12,000 persons, and not exceed 18,000, that such borough shall be divided itro two wards : " And that the number of Councillors to be chosen in each ward shall be any number, so that the whole number of Court cidors of such borough shall not be less than fifteen persons, and not more than twenty-one persons; and if the population such borough shall then appear to exceed eighteen thou ?;and persons, and not to exceed twenty.four thousand persons, that such borough shall be divided into any number of wards not more than four, and that the number of Councillors to chosen in each ward shall be any number, so that the whole nunibtr of Councillors shall not be less than twenty. one i a.-races, and not more than twenty-four persons; and if the popuLtion of such borough shall then appear to exceed twenty-four thousand p ersons , t h at suc h b orough shall be di. vided into so many wards, not less than four, as to his Ma jesty shall seem fit, and that the number of Councillors to be chosen in each ward, shall not be less than six: and if his Majesty shall be pleased to cause the particulars of such di vision or re-division into wards, and the number of Councillors assigned to each ward in such borough, to be published by Royal proclamation in the London Gazette, every such bo rough shall thenceforward be deemed to be divided into such and so many wards, as shall have been so last declared and published; and the - number of persons to be elected Council lors in each ward of every such borough, shall be the number so last declared and published as aforesaid." The Schedules will be taken into consideration to-night, and it is expected that by Monday next matters will be in such a state that the Report will be brought up. We may therefore expect, that next Tuesday or Wed nesday, the Bill will be read a third time, and con signed to the care of the Lords. The Tories—or Conservatives, as they delight to call themselves, for they are ashamed, and with justice, of their old designation---are endeavourir gto get up the same sort of party display at Cambridge, that they got up last year at Oxford. The Installation of the Marquis CAMDEN has furnished them with a plausi ble opportunity for mustering in full force on the banks of the Cam ; and accordingly there they are, with the Duke of WELLINGTON at their head, waking the the echoes of old Granta with all those party shouts in which the meek and beneficent genius of Toryism so much delighteth. If, however, these zealots think that the country will sympathize with their rejoicings, and respond to their shouts, they will find themselves woefully deceived. It knows them too well ; and knows also the causes that make, them popular at Ox- Ford and Cambridge. Both these Universities, espe !ially the former, are Tory, for no other reason than That they find their account in holding fast by such )rinciples. They would be Whigs to-morrow, in compliment to the Powers that be, could they be as sured that Church abuses would be as leniently dealt ;vith by the Whigs as by the Tories ; but, unfortu iately, they see in the present conduct of Ministers, ,oundant proofs of their resolution to reform the Esta blishment, in a manner obnoxious to the interests of that vast locust host of pluralists, who fatten among TIIE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY, JULY 7, 1835 We are delighted to have an opportunity of con gratulating the people of Ireland upon the zeal wi6 which a large body of their representatives have united together, in order to devise, and carry into operation, some measure which shall have the effect of perma nently relieving the distress of the working population of that country. For the more effectual and speedy furtherance of this laudable and patriotic object, seve ral meetings have been recently held, attended princi pally by Irish Members of the House of Commons, at which the evils that afflict Ireland have been freely discussed, and every proposal heard, which had for its object the improvement of its agricultural, commercial, and moral condition. Of these meetings, by far the most important was held at the Exchequer Coffee. house, Westminster, on Saturday last, at which Mr. O'CONNELL, the Member for Dublin, presided as Chairman. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman made one of the best speeches on that occasion which he ever delivered on the real grievances of his native country. We speak here of the substance of this speech, and not of the mode of its delivery, its brilliancy, or its length. For once he confined him self to the subject of Ireland's remediable wrongs —for once he allowed himself to be bounded by the limits of possible redress. This was a safe as well as a judicious course. Mr. O ' CONNELL stated that the distress of the Irish poor was occasioned by want of employment, and that the only way to proride such employment, and to render it permanent at the same time, would be by establishing public works throughout the island—improving the navigation of the Shannon-- cutting canals, so as to effect a direct communication among the several lakes in the province of Connaught-- and laving branches of rail-roads, so as to afford facilities of extending commercial industry to all the large towns and manufacturing districts in the Kingdom. The readers of this Journal will hardly require to be re minded that the opinions here expressed by Air. O ' CONNEML, have had our best support when we little expected to be assisted in maintaining them by such a pqwerful advocate. For years have we been labouring to impress every successive Government with a conviction that the great evil of Ireland was want o employment for her people—that such employment could only be secured by the establishment of a whole some system of Poor Laws—and that the self-interest of the Irish landed aristocracy and gentry would dic tate to them that no employment would be remune rative, but such as would improve the commerce of the country.. The navigation of the Shannon from Limerick to :a source is the first labour that demands the consi deration of the Irish Board of Works. The expens e would certainly be very great, the more especially as it would be of the utmost importance to open a commu nication, by a large canal, between Lake Allen, where the river first begins to be navigable, and Lough Erne, a few miles to the West of Florence Court, the seat of the Earl of Enniskillen. By means of this canal, and another for the distance of three - miles near Ballyshan non, the navigation of the Shannon would extend from sea to sea—from Limerick in the south to Ballyshannon on the north-west coast of Ireland,—and so making Enniskillen one of the great emporiums of trade in the North. This is a suggestion which we have never heard made ; but we are convinced nothing could be offered for the improvement of the country more practicable, and at the same time offering so many excellent advantages in every point of view. A direct communication between Enniskillen and Ath lone would be followed by the happiest consequences ; and, if we are not much mistaken, the distance from Lake Allen, the source of the Shannon, to Belcoo, the southern extremity of Lough Erne, is only about six or eight miles. May the world not laugh at the commercial enterprise of a people which allows such a paltry obstacle as this to arrest the progress of Irish improvement ? The next step to be taken is to effect a direct water communication between Dublin and Galway, by means of a canal wide enough for the double navigation of small steam-boats. This work has been begun on a miniature scale, and only requires to be extended and improved to effect the greatest good for the country. The canal from Dublin to Maryborough will serve for a commencement, as it is in a straight line for the point to which we propose to have it carried. By allowing the canal to communi cate with the larger lakes, the trouble of maintaining an artificial supply of water, by means of gates, will be avoided, and encouragement will be given for the building of villages, and the improvement of the lands around the coasts. The completion of these works will pave the way for others much more arduous. Once Ireland conies to taste the sweets of her own industry, we have no fear of her sinking into a state of apathetic wretchedness. Railways will follow as a matter of course—manufac tories will be established—mines will be opened and worked—and towns will be built, where nuthi) 3g is to he found out desolation, or the rude ta , :cs of squalid mendicancy. But how is all' this to be clonee. the Lincoln fens ; quaff the rich wines of the combi nation rooms at Cambridge ; and drowsily pace the cloisters of the Northern Cathedrals. This it is that makes them so staunch to the cause of Con servatism. Under Sir ROBERT PEEL they think that the Church might be so reformed as to square with their own personal interests, while at the same time it enabled them to gain credit with the country for liberality ; but under Lord MELBOURNE they have no such hope. They see that he is determined to make root-and-branch work with all ecclesiastical abuses ; hence they are resolved to take time by the forelock, and get up a handsome opposition against them. The cawing of the rooks in a rookery is a sure prognostic of an approaching storm ; and the cawing of the parsons at Cambridge, is as sure a proof that the vials of Tory wrath are about to be let loose in all their fury against Ministers. The present gathering is, in fact, the black speck in the political horizon which denotes the coming hurricane. Though it have no immediate connection with it, yet we cannot but look on it, as a sort of type, or foreshadowing of the treatment which the Municipal Bill will meet with, in the House of Lords. Clerical and lay Corporations are not so vastly dissimilar, as that one shall not take a lively interest in the fate of the other. We advise the Reformers, therefore, to be, one and all, on theirguard, for we can assure them that the most subtle and active agents are at work against them ; and that it is by no means improbable that they may be called on, ere a month has elapsed, to act over again the part they played when the House of Lords threw out the Re form Bill S There are many alarming reports abroad on this subject, which would not perhaps be so rife, did certain subordinate intriguers know how to keep their own secret. Reformers, then, we repeat, be on your guard. Look to the Registration. Keep up your Associations more zealously than ever. Have your Committees in readiness to act at a moment's notice or, rely on it, the Tories will steal a march, and we fear a successful one, on you. This, at least, we can assure you—and let the fact have a proper effect on your minds—Conservative money is flying in all directions. The squad know they are playing their last stake, and they are playing it as desperately now (though with greater hopes of a successful result) as they did during the early struggles for the Refonn Bill. or rather how is it to be begun ? For once set the machine in motion and it will revolve by its own power. Mr. O'CONNELL says by a public grant, which Ire land has the same right to expect as England and Scotland. We agree with Mr. O'CONNELL that Ire land's right is the same under similar circumstances— but unquestionably not otherwise. Now, when Par liamentary grants were first made to the Board of Public Works in England and Scotland, to enable them to carry on extensive improve. merits, the landed aristocracy of these countries were bound to provide employment for the poor, and undertook these works in order to promote the national prosperity. They did not call for grants for the mere object of supporting labourers, and so ridding their estates of the burthen of Poor's Rates. They were influenced by nobler, and more patriotic motives. They freely undertook the support of the poor ; and when their means was insufficient to enable them to I carry on expensive public works at their own charge—for the wages of the labourers was often made up out of the rates—they asked and obtained Parliamentary aid to assist them in completing great national improvements. Let the Irish landed Aristocracy follow their example in the first instance, and Parliament will lend an attentive ear to their peti tion for the assistance of the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER. A Poor Law must precede all other schemes of Irish improvement. To make Parliamen tary grants, before the Government has made it the in terest of the landed gentry of Ireland to labour night and day for the improvement of the condition of the poor —which a Poor Law unquestionably will dO— would be neither more nor less than to offer a premium for the continuance of Irish jobbing. So granted, were it ten millions sterling, the money would be swal lowed up by the cormorants of the Castle, nor would the starving idle poor of Ireland be one sixpence the better for it. Taken in conjunction with the present Irish Tithe Bill, a Bill for the Establishment of Poor Laws, and a Bill for carrying on the Public Works recommended above, would effect the regeneration of one of the fairest portions of the British Empire. The ignorance and wretchedness of the Irish poor, is the effect of a want of remunerating labour—and the cause of the crime which casts a stain upon the national character. To the Government we have always said,—lf you would improve the moral and physical condition of the peo ple of Ireland, establish Poor Laws, which will oblige the rich absentees to dwell upon their estates, and pro 'vide employment for their poor tenantry. Remove likewise whatever tends to promote religious hatred and sectarian violence. We have received the whole of the Paris Papers o. .Saturday. They bring no intelligence of the slightest general importance, with the exception of the follow ing brief extract : We believe we may arm that an invitation has been sent by Marshal Maison to the Prefect of the Seine, not to cause his notice to be placarded, at the; same time that the Military Intendant received orders to defer the enrolments for the fo. reign legion. We have received German Papers of the latest dates. The only advices they bring is a copy of an Ad dress from the Nobles of the Lombardo-Venetian terri tory to the Emperor of AUSTRIA, on his accession to the Imperial Throne, with his MAJESTY'S gracious answer. As neither the address nor the answer have any political tendency, we shall dispense with their in sntion. The reciprocal flatteries of Emperors and courtiers may be passed over in silence in the present state of our own affairs. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT, THIS DAY, TUESDAY, JULY 7. 110 USE OF (P) (INS. The SPEAKER, in consequence of the resolutions adopted in the course of last week, took the Chair to-day at twelve o'clock. There were not 20 Members in the House when the Speaker commenced counting ' • a numbe r o f M embers, how ever, soon arrived an d m a d e a House. DUNDEE WATER WORKS BILL. On the motion of Mr. SAUNDERSON, the Committee upon this Bill obtained leave to sit during the morning sittings of the House. STEAMERS ON THE THAMES. Alderman WOOD gave notice that he would on an early day move for leave to bring in a Bill for the better regulation of steam-vessels on the river Thames. GLASGOW WATER WORKS BILL. On the motion of Mr. WALLACE, the Committee on this Bill obtained leave to sit during the morning sittings of the House. GRAHAM'S ESTATE BILL. On the motion of Colonel LYGON, this Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed. COUNTY CORONERS' BILL. Mr. CRIPPS moved that the Order of the day be read fur the House resolving itself into Committee upon this Bill, and the House accordingly resolved itself into Committee, Mr. J. B. EARL in the chair. The Preamble having been postponed, the first four clauses were agreed to without observation. On the fifth clause being put from the Chair, Captain CURTEIS rose to object to it. His objections to it were two-fold. In the first place because it proposed to pay the Coroners out of the county rates, and in the next place because he considered that the sum proposed to be paid (for mileage we believe) was too large. It was for these reasons that the Bill was thrown out by the House of Lords. Mr. CRIPPS wished to correct the Hon. Member in one particular. The Hon. Member said that the Bill was thrown out by the House of Lords in consequence of the payment to the Coroners. Now this was not the case. The fact was, that the House of Lords had passed this clause, but the Bill was subsequently thrown out by their Lordships, as every body must recollect, in consequence of objections which their Lordships entertained to allowing the Coroner's Courts to be open to the public.—( Hear, hear.) As to the amount charged for mileage in this Bill, it would be recollected that the Com mittee had divided upon this part of the clause last year, and decided by a considerable majority that the amount charged was very reasonable. Mr. PEA SE (we believe) if he recollected rightly the Committee divided three times on the subject, and at length decided that a shilling a mile was sufficient. Mr. CRIPPS differed in his recollection from the Hon. Gentleman ; according to his recollection the House decided in favour of the Is. 6d. mileage. Mr. PO ULTE R hoped the House would agree to the allowance of 18d. a mile for travelling expenses. Sir GEORGE STRICKLAND believed that Coroners were allowed 9d. each way by the Act of George the Second, and although the Court of King's Bench had decided that they were only entitled to 9d. per mile one way, they still con tinued to receive 9d. per mile each way. The object of the present Bill was merely to secure that allowance to them. When it was recollected that they were only allowed 1/. for every inquest, and that they were obliged to issue summonses, and go to a good deal of incidental expense, he thought the House would not consider 18d. a m il e too much. Mr. WILSON PATTEN regretted that some provisions were not introduced for dividing the counties into districts, as in some cases there were districts twenty miles in extent, and containing a population of several thousand inhabitants, with out a Coroner. Mr. POTTER proposed as an amendment, that ls.. per mile should be the rate allowed. Mr. FOX MA ULE thought they should pay some atten tion to the respectability of the office, which was one of very great importance. He should vote for the 18d. per mile. Mr. PEASE would also vote for the allowance of 18d. After a few words from Mr. CAYLEY and Major BEAUCLERK, who supported the original proposition— Mr. HOWARD suggested that the Hon. Member for Wi_ gan had better withdraw his amendment. Mr. POTTER seeing the sense of the Committee was against him, would withdraw his amendment. The Clause, as also Clauaes 6 and 7, were then agreed to. On the Bth Clause being put from the Chair, Mr. CRIPPS rose to support it. He was quite aware that there were great objections to this clause, on the ground of its being the means of depriving a number of persons of their votes for the office of Coroner. In supporting this clause he did not wish to be understood that he intended to oppose him self to the wishes of the House. If the House was of opi nion that the clause should not be in the Bill, he would wil lingly withdraw it, if it were satisfied that no registration was necessary for the purpose of ascertaining the qualification of voters. Mr. J. JERVlS—Although he admired the principle of the Bill, he would sooner abandon it altogether, than have the present clause inserted in it.—(Hear, hear.) It would altogether abrogate the common law right of voting for Coroner, and substitute the Parliamentary one for it, but the Hon. Member violated the common law right by substituting the Parliamentary one, and he violated the Parliamentary one by allowing peers to vote. It would most seriously alter the law without the slightest necessity for it, or it having been sheen that any difficulty had been found from the exercise of the law as it stood. He woula rote ag ainst it. Sir J. WROTTESLE Y trusted the Hon. Gentleman would persevere in the clause, which in his opinion was one of the best in the Bill. Mr. PEASE agreed with the Hon. Member for Chester (Mr. Jervis) that the clause as it stood was going to take away an important right without any shew of reason or ne cessity, or even an attempt to shew that it had ever been abused. He would vote against it. Mr. PALMER thought that when the counties were di vided, as they would he by this Bill, the evil, if it was one, would be greatly reduced, and lie trusted the Hon. Geetle rnan (Mr. Crippa) would give up tie clause. Mr. G. F. YOUNG was fully persuaded that the parties interested did net care one farthing for the right, and he did not think that it was at all conducive to the due administration of justice to have such a large constituency. He was . astonished t o h ear t h ose who had done so much good in putting. an end to those scenes which used to be seen at county elections for Members of Parliament, now anxious to keep up these same scenes for fifteen days upon the election of Coroner. of voting, on the contrary, all the rights. which they at Pr possessed would remai n t o t h em. He must say that alt hea, he did not disapprove that those who. had a right to vote Knights of the Shire, should also have a right to vote f° l roner, .he objected to the 101. householders being kept outt Mr. JERVIS thought that all the freeholders of the roughs ought to be enti t l e d to vote for the Coroners o' , county. Lord G. SOMERSET—The amendment would hovel effect. It will l eave t h ose w h o have a right to vote fort borough a right to vote for the County Coroners. Mr. CRIPPS had some difficulty in knowing how ts: ) If the House thought that the amendment would take a j the difficulty, 'he would not stand in the way. There el difficulty in getting rid of those voters who bad no ve°l all.—( A laugh.) Ile meant, who had not the shadow t !I right to vote. He agreed with the Hon. Member tha' possible, it was desirable to prevent all mob influence. e Mr. WARBURTON was glad to find that the Hon. ) ber by wh om t h e Bill had b een introduced had himse lf the difficulty of the case. Their object should be to att) to the rights of the voters, and at the same time to lima number of days for polling. If it was limited to one cleY l • feared that tumult alone would carry the election. Il e lieved the time was gone by when he should have Pot; in the third clause that the voting should take place ' n ) rishes, because if they wished to prevent tumult, they 5 o subdivide the polling places. He would move, on the el ing up of th e re p ort , t h at t h e churchwardens do ta ke i votes in the several p ar i s h es , an d t h at would tend very dpi to diminish the expense of elections. Sir JOHN HANDIER (we believe) was convinced that? limitation of the polling to one day would be injurious o the town of Shrewsbury', at the l as t e l ect i on f or a Cor the unsuccessful candidate had plenty of votes, but cotn%i bring them up to the poll. Although the salary was onlY o per annum, it cost each of the candidates between fa r five hundred pounds. Mr. HOWARD th oug h t t h e C oroners would be xnee-),!cii independent, if the voting took place in parishes. lt w e throw the electi on i nto t h e h an d s of the landed pro Pe t, and totally destroy all freedom of election. Mr. P. SCROPE was desirous that there should be constituency as could be registered. He hoped the Member fur Cirencester would withdraw his dowse, Ref it the Committee would accede to it. Mr. BAINES regretted that the Hon. Member had; adopted, as th e p r i nc i p l e o f his Bill, the principle- of ele c. that had s o l ong ex i ste d . He would have found that it , have answered all his purposes. The polling places woul°, so much crowded as was supposed, as the cortnties divided into districts. He would not give the franchise persons who did not a t present possess it; and he though' r • serious objection existed t o t a ki ng t h e franchise as it at F sent stood. He objected to the 501. tenants-at-will balll . vote, as at elections for M em b ers o f P ar li ament, where were seen coming up to the poll like so many herds. If system was persevered in, the elections would be carriedo the great landed proprietors, and not by those in whey power should be vested.—( Question, question.) The CHAIRMAN having read the clause and the tio ame nclre,e, After sonic observans from Lord G. SOMEKSP' which were inaudible— The CHAIRMAN again put the clause. Mr. •WA RB URTON thought that part of the clause i; respect to excluding Peers of the Realm from voting, e' 4°. be struck out. An Hos. M EMBER wi s h e d t o k now whether residence 's essential? Mr. HARDY said it was. Mr. CRIPPS o b serve d t h at, previous to the questionb e t,' put, he had stated to the Committee that if they objected 6 the original cla use , h e h a d d rawn up another which he thou g , would obviat e th e diffi cu l ty—t h at c l ause was to the effect od all persons d u ly qua lifi e d to vote, should have been in eg possession of l an d s an d tenements i n respect of whic h to o were qualified, or s h ou ld h ave b een i n possession of the r ep and profits for six months previous to the election. a Mr. WARBURTON move d to om i t the provision Ty"' recoonized the right of Peers to vote. 'ter a conversation across the table between several Ka Gentlemen, Mr. BAINE S sa id h e cou ld see many reasons why a r re should not vote for a Member of Parliament, but non e to vent him from voting for a Coroner. Mr. WARBURTON sa id if t h ey h ad now the right, thel ) why give it them by the Bill ? Mr. JOHN JERVIS objected to the clause, because 6 0 cording to it, no county cou ld b e aga i n d i vided without 811 Act of Parliament. Sir J. WROTTESLEY believed the clause was pasi i e and, theref ore , th ey must wa i t for the Report before t could introduce any other amendment. t esJ. Mr. CRIPPS sa id h e was very willing and happy to ateee, to any suggestion, but he could not but complain that obh„, tions should now b e s t ar t e d aga i nst clauses which had bs" before unanimously agreed to. Mr. HARDY explained. Clause 8, as amended, was then agreed to. Clauses 9 and 10 were agreed to without a m en d men t. On Clause 11 b e i ng read, Mr. WARBURTON believed that this clause bad boo introduced in consequence of a resolution the House eant, o o two Sessions ago. There was nothing in this clause Iv%, he objected to,_ until they came towards the close of the clatl oi Power was there given to the Crown "to order all P ers° o6 to retire from the said Court, when, in the judgment of said Coroner, the ends of public justice require thc i , l3o elusion of such persons from the same Court." power was subject to the approbation of the Lord i be Justice o f t h e Ki ng ' s Bench, or the Secretary for „, Home Dep ar t ment ; b ut t hi s restriction did not r, pear to hi m t o b e su ffi c i ent, It appeared that very Ire , quently in th ose cases , w h en the Court ought to be op", endeavou rs were ma d e to exclude the public.--(Hear, heapilf He would not allude to any other instances than that .° Manchest er a t th e ti me o f t h e un f ortunate destruction of I ' o there, and th e l a t e r i ot at W o l verhampton ; for considering t bt investigation, though there was no loss of life, it was ye') much in th e na t ure o f a Coroner's In ;uest.—(Hear, heat It was cle ar ly a case o f great excitation on the part o n' the pe o pl e . Th e troops were called out, and there ;,.'t contradictory e v id ence on b ot h s id es , an d i n order to q uiet the public mind, th e r e f or e it was very i mportant that o , _ ' e h Court sho u ld b e open d ur i ng t h e progress of the investigf tion. Y et t h e i n di v id ua l d epute d to take the examination, 1„ it had be en l e f t t o hi s own j u d gment, would have excluded t b ; public, and the Noble Lord the Secretary of State for the Hofe r Department, w a s w illi ng t o confirm the d ec i s i on o f the oftiee so deputed, unless that House had interfered with its au tliorl and induc e d th e Nobl e L or d to l eave the Court open. The judgment of the officer himself, or of the Secretary o f State for the Home Department, was not therefore sedficieet, and he was desirous to limit the exclusion of the pub lic to particular cases, in which the ends o f justic e would be defeated, if the public were not exe/udaw He would th ere f ore propose as an amendment, s after the words " public justice," the following w or ds be by sertecl, " wh ere t h e ends of public justice might be defeated by the escape of an accused party or of a material witness in cas e the Court was allowed to be open." The amendment having been read, Mr. PO UL TE R. suggested that after th e wor d s , ie in the i judgm en t o f the Coroner," the words, " an d th e jury," sbonla be introduced, as it would be important to have their approba tion in case of the public being excluded. Mr. CRIPPS could not consent to the amendment o f the Hon. Member for Bridport. The committee was aware that the House of Commons was in favour of an open Court, gol d the other House in favour of a close Court; and in consequence of this difficulty the Learned Attorney-General had framed the clause as it now stood, and which had afterwards received the sanction of the Noble Lord the late Lord Chancellor. Both these Learned Gentlemen had said that there could be no possible objection to this clause ; and, as it had received their sanction, he (Mr. Cripps) would not presume to alter it. Mr. M'LEAN objected to the introduction of the words " and the Jury," as it might give rise to unseemly collisions between the Coroner and the Jury. The Coroner was the pre siding officer, and to his decision he should be willing to leave the matter. Sir SAMUEL WHALLEY thought it would give the public additional protection if the approbation of the Jury was necessary before turning it into a close Court. He thought the amendment would be satisfactory to the House. Mr. WILSON PATTEN thought that Juries who were casually summoned, and knew nothing about the case, would be very incompetent persons to decide upon the impropriety or fitness of excluding the public. Mr. M'LEAN asked the Hon. Member for Shaftesbury/ how he meant to manage in case there was a difference of opi- • nion between the Coroner and the Jury ? The Coroner might wish to close the Court, and the Jury might wish to have it open? Mr. P OULTER—Probably the Jury would be right.--- (Hear, and a laugh.) pending weipdnee l Mr. dei inonctgao HA sit tuhratf ftD ,otrbitutlghtY Coroner'shi r s e pj: a .uu i tn d rri pylooo t uaps h gene e dhr r os e totf htnh i pa v eltu a vron s aefsi smithsvhoamuescfieGhatn Grand aag o nbfr judge uatplausibilityogft seilnquest.mi an siq inquiry, trih i n rieyt y Cabbnoe a edy : . roner of whether the public should be excluded or not. All the mischief which they wished to avoid might be done if the Coroner was obliged publicly to state to the Jury his reasons for wishing to exclude the public, and, there fore, he was willing to leave the matter to the discretion of the Coroner. His acts would always take place in the pre sence of twelve witnesses, who would be afterwards enabled to give their opinions to the public (as there was nothing to prevent their doing so), in condemnation of the conduct of the Coroner, if they thought he had improperly excluded the public. He had known instances where criminals had escaped for the want of the inquiry being kept secret. He remembered not long ago, a case of a most cruel murder, where the person who had actually committed it, 'because he was present at the time the enquiry before the Coroner took place, and finding the evi dence likely to implicate him, took himself away and never was heard of afterwards. If on that occasion there had been a close Court, the probability was, that the criminal would have been brought to justice. Under these circumstances, he trusted the Hon. Members for Bridport and Shaftesbury would with draw their amendments. - Sir E. WILMOT was in favour of having the Coroner's Court an ok.en one. Mr. J. .114., RVIS thought that all ancient practice showed that the Court of the Coroner ought to be open, reserving , to the Cor oner t h e power to d i smiss from the town all those ' who acted against decorum • Sir M. W. RIDLEY thought the Coroner's Court ought to be a close Court, as it bore the most strict analogy to the Grand Jury. He was decidedly of opinion that if the Co.. , ; rover's Court was allowed to be open the ends of justice be ci.-2wated. •, Sir G. ST RICKLAND said, as an Euglishulan, he was THE FUNDS.-(THIi DAY.) CITY, TWELVE O'CLOCK. Sydney papers to the 15th of March; Canton papers to the 11th of February ; and New BrunsWick to the 7th of June, have been received at the North and South American Coffee house. (From the Sydney papers.) ‘, We are induced to call the attention of our fellow-col°. fists to the very respectable and healthy appearance of the fe. male emigrants who arrived by the Duchess of Northumber. land from Dublin and Cork on Saturday last. They are su perior to any female importation. " A popular meeting was held at Hobart Town on the 28th ult., for the purpose of discussing whether it is proper that Van Diemen's Land should still continue to be a prison on a large scale ; or whether, by abolishing its penal character, it should ba placed on the same footing as the other British co lonies, " VAN DIEMEN'S LAND.- Wheat has fallen in price since our last; it may be quoted is. to 7s. 6d. per bushel. Other Grain same as last wee. His Excellency, accompanied by s police magistrate, left town yesterday on a tour of the Interior. We regret to learn that the intelligence from all the agricul tural districts coincides with if at from Nepeau, which appears unfaveerable. Owing to the prolonged drought, vegetation is everywhere parched up. Political feelings run unusually high :!it Hobert Teova, and the alleged popularity of the Lieut. Governor is of a very questionable description." The Canton papers state that they have received a Sand wich Island newspaper of eight pages quarto. It is printed and published at Owyhee. From the wood cuts which it con tains, it is ob serve d t h at the ed i tor is informing the natives on natural history. (From the Canton Price Current of the 10th February.) IMPORTS.—COTTON.—A few sales of Bombay have been made since the holidays. OFlUM.—llving to the small stock of Bengal drugs, some few sales have been made. An advance has taken place on Malwa, but the sales have been inconsiderable, and now the market is very dull. Prices may be considered nominal. Deliveries to the, Bth inst. :—Patna, 58 chests; Benares, 10; Malwa, 72.—Total, 140 chests. TeAs,_Good Teas are scarce, and prices advancing. The late arrivals from Liverpool, with piece -goods, hare obtained favourable prices. The New Brunswick papers state that remonstrances have been made to the Executive of the Province, in the first in stance by an Address from the House of Assembly, and sub sequently by a petition from the eastern counties, on the sub ject of complaint, in a subjoined petition to his Majesty (which is of great length) and that they have failed to procure redress from the Provincial Government; therefore they have deter mined to lay their grievances at the foot of the Throne. THE FUNDS. Five more failures have been declared this morning at the Stock Exchange, arising out of the late disastrous accounts. One of them is a first-rate speculator, and the differences he had to pay were 170,0001. Seventy thousand pounds are owing to him ; and had he received the above sum, he would have paid 20s. in the pound. Both the British and Foreign Markets have improved on the leaving -off prices of yesterday. Consols which closed at 92; for the account, may be quoted at 92i. Exchequer Bills, 31 33 ; India Bonds, 12 14 Premium ; Bank Stock, 210. Tho foll Owing are the quotations of the Foreign Securities this morning :-....Spanish, which left off 484 to may be quoted 49 to ; Spanish S cr ip l e f t off 104- discount, is at pre sent 91 discount ; Portuguese closed at 69/ to 90, at present 90i; Three per Cents. left off 594 ex-dividend; is at pre sent 60 to I. The Express from Paris does not bring any. news of conse quence. The French Funds done at Tortoni's, 79 35. HALF-PAST ONE. We have an arrival this morning from China of the sth of March, at which period every thing continued in the same state as per the previous accounts from that quarter. We do not hear of any information of importance by the above ar rival. Consols, which were in the morning 92+ for the Account, are not so good at present, and may be quoted 92k. Ex cheqke, ur Bills, 32 34 ; I n di a B onds, 13 1.% premium ; B an k Stoc 2 / 61-. In the Foreign Market, Spanish Stock and Spanish Scrip continue to improve. The former has reached 50, and the latter 9+ l + discount; Portuguese, 89A- ; 3 per Cents, 594 ; Columbian, 37 h+ per cents., 35+. No further arrivals. THREE 0' CL 0 Cif . Consols for the A ccount, 92k. A juvenile fete is to be given at the Beulah Spa on Friday next. A memorial to the Lords of the Treasury is in course of signature from the inhabitants of the parishes of St. Martin's-in-the-Fields, St. Giles, St. George Bloomsbury, St. Paul Covent-gard e n, and St. Mary-le. Strand, praying them - to take into consideration the public benefit which would accrue were the new street from Waterloo Bridge to be con tinued on in a line to Broad-street, Bloomsbury. Lord John Scott, the Hon. Member for Roxburgh shire, prefers hunting otters to attending Parliament, and spearing eels to the interests of his constituents. He may be seen at these sports almost daily on the Teviot, along with a number of idle boys. Next time the electors have an oppor tunity of recording their opinions ok' Lord John's fitness to re present the County, ti:f ;Ibuve quaiitications for an M.P. will su f.-sly not be overLoiiQd. —Edinburgh Chronicle. Mr. CRIPPS—By a former clause the electicn is confined to one day, Mr. YOUNG was not aware of that. He appealed to the Hon. Member for Finsbury to say whether the scenes that took place at the last electioa for Middlesex, were not very de morslizing. He was of opinion that the parties themselves did not consider it a valuable privilege, and therefore if the matter were pressed to a division, he would vote for the clause as it stood. After a few words from Captain CURTEIS and Mr. C. Ross, Sir M. W. RIDLEy thought the Hon. Member was acting upon a wrong principle in bringing forward such a clause as this, which tended to take away the rights of the lower classes. Though he did not think very highly of what was called the march of intellect, he conceived that this was not the time to take away any of the rights of the lower classes. That was a principle which he had advocated during the discussion on the Corporation ReforM Bill, and if that principle was not carried out in the working of this Bill, it would be a very obnoxious and objectionable one.—(Hear, hear.) The expenses of Coroners were very enormous; and yet if the question were put to any Coroner throughout England, he would say he was ill paid. Still, however, there were men to be found, who, for the sake of distinction, or influence, or pro gress in their respective professions, were ready enough to become candidates ; and in the choice of men to fill such office, why should any be excluded from voting, merely because he possessed a smaller amo unt of property th an anot h er man ? Mr. WARBURTON thought that if the Hon. Member op posite intended to propose any amendment upon this clause he should do so at once. He was decidedly opposed to the limitation of the election to eight hours, because it would have the effect of making the struggle more violent between the parties, whose object would then be to try who could first get possession of the polling place, and b ring up t h e greatest numbers on th e i r own sid to keep possession, to the exclusion of the other party, and therefore nothing could be appre hended from such a clause but the most disorderly and tu multuous proceedings. Mr. HARDY proposed as an amendment, that every elec tion of Coroner shall be by a majority of persons in the district at the time of the election, who shall be freeholders resident within the district, and also of all such persons resident within the said district, who shall be possessed of an estate of land or tenements that shall entitle them to vote for Knights of the Shire, under the Reform Bill. He saw no objection to this principle. Captain CURTEIS said a few words, which were inaudi ble in the Gallery. Major BE AUCLERK was one of those who voted for the clause referred to by the Hon. Baronet, for taking away the rights of freemen. He certainly had given that vote with much regret, but he was yet to learn that the vote was a wrong one. He voted upon the principle that a strong case had been made out against the freemen, but he would not say that those who had come to an opposite opinion were not in the right. To the present amendment he would give his warm support, and he hoped they would go back to the origi nal principle of giving every freeholder the right to vote. Sir G. STRICKLAND was inclined to extend the fran chise as widely as possible. He thought that the amendment of the Hon. Member for Bridport was very valuable. Who were the persons most interested in the election of Coroners ? Why, the poorest men in the county..—( Hear, hear.) What advantage would it be to a Noble Lord that an inquiry should take place as to how his death happened? But the poor man had a deep interest in such an inquiry, and he therefore thought they ought to try to extend and increase the elective franchise, and not to lessen it.—( Hear, hear.) Sir JOHN WROTTE SLE Y did not object to giving the freeholders the right to vote for C oroners, b ut if they were to be at the expense and trouble of a registry, it was surely most de sirable to make it available for the purposes of this Bill ; it was also desirable that the poll should take place on one day. Capt. CURTE IS was understood to object to the poll taking place in one day, especially in large agricultural districts. He should prefer to see the 10/. householders let in to vote. Lord GRANVILLE SOMERSET--All those who now had a right to vote in boroughs or out of it would still retain the right to vote. The consequence would be that the consti tuents of the Hon. Member would not lose any of their rights_ Lord and Lo Appealthe p ar plaintiff tion in His Court t 4 they din instant. 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