The Sun. — London, England, 1852-04-02 00:00:00

THE SUN, existing law of the land, and as to whom the British asylum to refugees fleeing from the effects of political con eGovernme . ia . ht eeke steps. But it was not like other vulsione, and would not be ready to defend; . theirightto !subse• e. • . a munications from the Governments of afford that hospitality. But that was not . he whole case. -eßu i • - T‘ , " a s: l e a k , : d n seeking as ana means asylum of •• 4 ' 1 - . is, ad- Prussia, or the Germanic Confedera- They were not satisfied with . mer f el; ation . ; a applic een. 0 • .ti more than* the law would enable here, but they used the protect eetbe Govern eto do.-(Hear,) I think it right and just adopang acts of hostility That was the strong point against and to disturb the tra.n , 'to the Fren 'overnment to explain the nature and intent quality of foreign countries. 'of that communication. Now, Sir, when these representa- l taken by those foreign powers.. Those were the points which lions; were made to •me I stated that the French Go- our law did not m eetaa: .tore to foreigners. ego itiv o ; sßi:ntlitlairf actsaiiy vernment had at. - different times possessed powers foreigner or Englistim . be. of treason or d* * -7granted by Alien Acts, - -but that these powers never against England, be would guilty met sedition se Iti" '' and treasan , went to the object to which they wished the action of so that they were, infect, carrying the British Governinant*: to be dir e c ted -- (Heart -hear) -- against their own Governments. leis was.. an anomaly of that England took care of her own t ranqu illi ty , an d never w hi c h f ore i gn Goveruments.braeu o enacta t a_ . right tioasvcaomtopinlaeinet. this ' , pret en d e d to l ook after t h at o f ot h er countries-(Hear, hear) (SirJ. Walsh) was not p re p a -- that they would look aftere t a heir own i n t eres t, an d th a t th e case , but he was of opinion hat , there was a stron ger prima '.power given by former Alien Acts would be this-that the f a d e case o n the part of foreign powers than Gentlemen op ,Government was enabled to send out of the country any polite were ready to admit. There was a gross abuse of the efore lgners w h ose presence in the* country was dangerous to hospitality of this country nn toe part of reftigeee, and their this country, and detrimental to its internal tranquillity- sense of propriety ought to induce them to abst a in - fr o m acts. , (Hear, hear)-and that it was in vain for them to ask us to which involved the chance of perillieg friendly relations alo that which not only th e p resent l aw did not ena bl e us t o b e tw e en their own c ountr i es an d that which had given them ; do, but to disenable us to do that for which no further Act shelter. He had no sympathy with most of those refugees Could be asked from Parliament, and no Parliament w ould who had done much by their acts to put on end to Constitu urepe, a d if this ,y consent to give.-(Hear.) But. Sir, I took th e liberty of mina' monarchy all over E ' a countr • afforded „stating, further, that I thought there was great exa gg e ration them *an asylum, it was not necessary also to afford them its .elf the dangers which could a rise to any foreign country from sympathy ;the presencea here of any foreign refugees. Sir, there is Mr. V. SMITH concurred with the ... Right Hon. Gentleniait . <nothin g , it seems to me; upon which opinion goes so far (Mr. Walpole), an d w i t h t h e Noble Lord (Palmerstoe),, ?beyond f ac t as i n th e id ea t h at re f ugee , can e ff e ct any con- that if an angry discussion on this subject had been brolight aiderable mischief in • the country-from which they have to a satisfactory close, it was unwise to revive it.-(Hear, ailed. wh y , h ow are they to d o i t ? By ex citing discontent h ear.) T he motion of the Hon. Member fur Pontefract, :.through letters or other-incentives to insurrection. The however, was intended to elicit a little information from the affect of a cause depend , net „ on l y on . th e cause itself, but Government, and he (Mr. V. Smith) desired . tnextreat a e very mu c h on the c ondition ef• the thing on which that little more. What h e wan t e d t o k n ow was, whether PIMP is t o operate. Si r• a slight spark may blow up a B r i t i s h subjects had been subjected to any additional Mean powder magazine; while 'a blazing torch will burn out venience in consequence of nun-compliance on the Nit of aannless on a turnPike-roaa.-(Cheers and laughter.) If our Government with the demands made upon them`? , r ,,A count r y b e i n a state aenternat or suppressed di scontent, With regard to the Austrian carrespondenceahe must say be .slight i n di ca ti ons may augment*it, and produ ce an ex plo- thought i-. rather en unu s ual practice to compliment a new , 'Sion ; but it the country be -well governed, a n d if t h e people Government its • ccession to offiee. Prince Sthwatzen he eatistied and contented, little proclamations and comma- berg, however, seemed to think otherwise; upon a i pications which may be - received from refugees will be as V. Smith) supposed that. " Dear Derby," and not °Ce laarmless as waste paper. -(gar, hear.) I endeavoured char Aberdeen," would henceforward be the formal ex- - ',with great deferenctato impress that idea on foreign Govern- P cession of that statesman when addressing dispatches to_ his might .ments, send mone who then represent e d th a t perhaps these refugees country.-( A laugh. y! • Why, good h eavens, S i r'-the money Mr. B. COCHRANE said that it appeared that the Aue arhich these unhappy refugees have, who are livin in trian Government had outlaced British travellers undet :lodgings i n b ac k alleys, .many of them even of the lowest the same regulations as those of other countries. 4 e coin ,"chips, and can h ar dl y pay for their subsistence-(Hear, hear) plai ne d o f the tone acid language adopted by several Hon. -is there a n y d anger lik e l y to arise to foreign Governments Members in the present debate, and contended that such a lfrom money sent by such persons?-(Hear hear, and a manner of di s cussing foreign affairs 'was calculated to do atigh.) Then, Sir, - 1 was told, •• See , here are notes issued serio us i n j ur y t o ou r r e lations with foreign powers. He con . byMazaini, for 50 f rancs each, in return for money depo- t en d e d th a t t h e di s p a t c h , o f , ti le Aust r i a n Mini s t e r, whi c h, lite d, and t o b e repa id when an Italian Unitive Republic was said to contain a " menace," was written just after a' • shall be e stablished."-(Laughter.) Why, Sir, I did not speech delivered by M. diazzini, in which he spoke " of ;tla r lue th a t d anger from .this source was very i mm i nen t.- esta bli s hi ng an organ i sat i on, to sprea d t h roug h E ng l an d t h e geetear, hear.) Th en; again, it was said that a banker had facts relatin to the struggles and sufferings of Italy, and so aeaeceived an appli ca tio n f rom some of those parties to open an that she mi g ht receive a moral assistance in those struggles." laacdotret with him. But,' Sir, up to that time not a farthing Austria had cause to be alarmed, if she supposed such an en t paid to that account.- (Laughter.) Then it was organisation was on foot: He thought that the conduct of 'ttlid th • loubt that if money could not basent arms might go. And no Englishmen to General Haynau, conduct which was atorice f, ur 0 one did hear of some 200 muskets destined for these cowardly and inhospitable, was quite parallel with the con ormPitleleal But how are the refugees to get arms (in any duct of the Austrian troops iu Tuscatiy.-(Hear, hear.) He el a quanaitya.unless they can get money?-(Hear.) was astonished at this motion proceeding from his Hon. 'And ldo not think that notes payable on such an eventuality F r i end, who had always been received most hospitably at the efts I ha ve d escribed are likely to send arms in quantities at Courts which he now took upon himself to attack. - 'tl considerable into foreign countries.-(Hear, hear, and a gli. B • Sir H. VERNEY was understood to say that the whole Besides, the arms are articles which it is ex- English nation ought to be grateful to the Noble Lord, the „itoeuanmdeletr)odrcult to smuggle; and any country is, of course, Member for Tiverton, mainly in consequence of whose con "'" after its own interests, and to give orders to duct it was that the cases mentioned that evening, of in- Ivreevue,ntthenthe arms - .from being imported.-( Hear, hear.) juries and insults to British subjects abroad, were exceptions ,if thei r lett ers will not produce revolution ; if and not the rule. The Noble Lord was competent above all .!ao"their money is forthcoming; and if their arms are next men to give advice on such a subject as this; and he (Sir nothing, it is said . theymay send men. But the moment H. Verney) hoped that the Hon. Member for Pontefract any foreigner beglos:to enrol men in this county for the would act upon the suggestion which had been offered him. purpose of military occupations in another, we have Y a l r aw to -(Hear, hear.) 4-rurevent those practices.-(llear.) They cannot be concealed • Mr HENLEY, after some preliminary observations, said are enabled by•the law (a law which no doubt the G0... ' he be that ny Government existing in this country ei arm/lent would execute) to put down such proceedings must always act upon the rinciple that British subjects, in attgainst a friendly power.-(Hear, hear.) And, Sir, I felt it any part of the wor ld, must be carefully protected. The Any duty to point out to those foreign Governments that al- Noble Lord (Lord Palmerston) had referred, in humourous ! though it was not f entirely. unnatural, coneidering the dii- terms, to the. Austrian dispatch, in which complimentary : :, th . i•er e e y nt s o h r , i i f i a id ni f z e a e t l ien o continental countries from ours, that language was used in respect to Lord Derby's GovernmeOt; .these apprehensions, that, besides our not •ieeth but that dispatch must be reed iu reference to the declare ,se . g able to relieve them, there was not so much tohuonwdaetvieorn, and fttihne reference t e G t o o vernment as to their foreign policy, ler them as they appeared •to imagine; and that, ~there h d the preference of the Austrian Goe been grant e d ( as w as stat e d i n ego) a consider- vernment of any one set of gentlemen over any other set aable number a of passports-by the British consuls or diplomatic of Gentlemen sittin as Ministere -Hear. As regarded Ito'agents to e persons not British'subjects, I thought it was right the dispatch upon which the Hun. 40 do Member' for Pontefract d 0 It was done in a time. of great commotion in had laid so much stress, as conveying a menace, he (Mr. a alid .the passports-were given to persons of all states Henley) considered that is applied nut to British subjects ii i gent Rino'ytheisetosaott France, Republicans at Rome, and Hunga- proper but to persons travelling abroad with English paSs fans af Europe; to every man, in fact, who was ports; and, so tar as he knew, be believed that no incoo ,,i ~, 8 from immtnent-danger, a . rid wishing to withdraw him- venieuce had mimeo. to any one British subject in cense `Jdiflea from that country in which his presence might create sturbance-(Heare hear )-and they were assisted by .the had only, in conclusion, .to say tnat the best way of dealing queuce of the intimation to the Austrian Government. Be 111 '418h Gove - 'the individuarnsnitrt7not only as an act of great charity to with the motion, would. be as suggested by the Noble Lord, :traneuillit of the emselves, but as contiibuting much to the the Member for Tiverton; and he therefore begged to move A/to countries in. which it was done. (Hear, toe previous question. Inhpeoarn? especially b Rome , for instance, a case much commented Mr. M. dIILNES replied, consenting to obey the direc consul there, an y d tfYieek°'ntinental governments, the British tion of the Noble Lord, and to comply with what appeared rench .c. nsul enabled two thousand gave passports which to be the general wish of the House. In reply to the re •men to quit Rome, who, if they bad marks of the Hon. Member for Bridport (Mr. B. Ouch • ) • remained there must either haverane , • been a source of great he had to observe that the hoe.. Member was somewhat disturbance, or must have been supported b• y the charity of in error as to the hospitality which he (Mr. el. Milnes) tile e iY• and the authorities of Rome not only desired its o f had received from foreign courts, for on his last visit to the t all i..°_ °ld ate done, but urged the consuls to assist them in g-t- continent he had been stopped and prevented entering "IS rid of these , persons although it was afterwards the Austrian doininionse that circumstance ,had, of course, •.,,• [Made a fre uent subject of reproach, especially to the consul of this country however, nothing to do with his political conduct on this ntry. It an act done not upon his own respon jeuihtilitfi.taYh,ibut on the:desire of the authorities; it was perfectly occaaion. • . , e, and I felt- it my duty to approve of it.-(Cheers from Tue previous question was then put and agreed to. ' EAR W ICH. . the Liberals.)--• At the same time, it is true that the Austrian Government - might 'think that some of the pass Sir D. Porta • introduce a Bill, L. EVANS, pursuant ,o notice, moved for leave to to a. might get into other hands, or that some persons ^nm they were • might seek I given with a view to the appointment inof taheeobine cover .of them. was not disposed to find fault with the a rogh of Harwich . The Bill would be word ter word, with' eeestrein Government for establishing, with regard to PaesPorts, this change of names, with the Bill passed last session in refer ence to St. Albaus. The case of Harwich, he was prepared general regulation, that foreigners wish- ass oats granted by the authorities ia• their own this Albans , and there was this dinereuce that pouts existed in 4co_ungrPies, countersigned by some representative of the case ' which had nut existed in the St. Albans case when nestrian Government. - (Hear, hear.) I think that ever; Harwich, Bill was passed, demonstrating the practice of bribery. notave.rnment is entitled to make such regulations as to tbe indeed, was even in a - e, °tee position than aa own of foreigners as it may think consistent with it was occut ied by any of the other suspected b' roughs. °W security, if those regulations are liberally enforced e When he had last brought this subject before the House, without vexatious severity; and I think that other coma- which was immediately upon the accession of the present base are bound to acquiesce in them.-(Hear.) There was an at Government to office, . the Hun. Member for the Uni a ,_ ea tempt made indeed to compel the British Gov versity of Oxford (Sir R. loglis) had charged him. 16: t° ,. . tablish in regard to our passports those picturesque and his f.iends with a mere factious desire to annoy iPtions which some of the foreign passports contain-(A and impede the new Ministry. It was sufficient to any, ugh)--a delineation of the features or figure which the mac dualin- divi who bears a passport may boast of (Lau ht r) in reply to the charge, that he had moved in the ..ter last year, and had then sought what he was seeking b.iii.t, e l n. declined to follow that example, and saidg of-(Laughter) now. The Right Hon. and Learned Gentleman the Judge . it was imagined that we were fond of kitting for our Advocate had tint called attention to Harwich ; , and upon paOrutraigtshit was to painters, and not to passport-drawers • and so, Sir . I (ad -__ . f I not comply with the wishes of foreign govern- the motion of that Right Hon. and Learned Gentleman for a Committee he (Sir De L. Evans) had suggested an amend- Vls in this respect. But, Sir, it appears from the papers meat extending the inquiry to the Oircumscances of all the which hav e.t 7,__ been•laid before the House that there elections for Members for Harwich to the present Parlia anra determined intention, on the part was at one mot. If; therefore, there was any imputation in this busi la l er of ahe ae , a . s , a ran Government, to retaliate on Britis e : P t e d c rave tars with ness, it applied not to him, but to the Right Hun. and 'reaae severity in regard to passport of atastrian territories-to retaliate on the e Ell British Learned Gentleman who, probably in consequence of his admission into onerous official duties, no longer tome an interest in it.-(A ~ t G int o tor not doing that which foreign Governments must laugh.) In regard to Harwich corruption,' the evidence was know it cannot do enable it -o ..,y 6 law, and never could get a law to so copious, that, like Nolte's hero, he suffered from an to "do, hear.) Now, Sir, I think that was a perfect! " embarras des nchesses. He would, however, not go b ear. , oily proper thing for mention in this Hoagie.- Hear 8 ) I think my Hon. Friend was rightiwnhcieahltlngthtihnekse- farther back than tea years: In 1842 occurred the " compro miae " which led to the celebrated -" Compromise Committee"' mriohos eeattention of 'Parliament to am e enace it of the Hon. and Learned Member . for Sheffield • (Mr. Roe unfittinkakee°ming a foreign Government to make, and as buck). In 1848 there was an election and a petition. Early thili e ,a for the British Government to receive. Sir upon in 1851 there was an election and a petition; and 'again, in co nta a a u ,a/ect, there are parts of' these papers, especially the May iB5l, there was another election and another petition. ali oai ton, on which I would make a l) fe e w rs' remarks. I am ea.whi o n a to that amicable and Arcadian dialogue-(Laughter) The ' population had decreased from. 183 t to 1811 by 411 persons; but, strange to say, the number of the voters had vern we n ia , bas Passed, it appears, betweeneinee their e i Austriaa Go- increased. This borough had been convicted of bribery - twice 0fa ce...... 0 , and the present Ministry within ten years; which had happened to no other borough. raccast e o r n als to Sir it to delightful liaear, bear," and laughter from the a In the Committee of '1842, Mr. Attwood, then a Mem:- t eer niatroca a ightful and worthy of Virgil to see the beautiful ber of the House, was examined, and he stated that 0 p ortac ' c 's and Minable- feelings interchan M C rau came to him, and - said he should want 2,000/. ged between the r. LIT Collhi .- (Ilea ' h not . a, ear, and laughter.) Sir, I must say I (Hear ' re ad those to carry , out the arrangement entered into on the comproa la _ , hear est dispatches without a smile.- And there were circumstances which took mise. "i thought it, an rev proposal," said Mr. tot " whe n the Attwood, " but. 1 gave him the 2,00ut, and there the matter dirninea e in Pnresent Government was formed which aid rested." He went on to say, ehat the petitioo • was to be' bear, and laughtcrl mind the disposition to smile.--( Hear, quorntnent elth e2 ' I allude to thejo - which 'the Austrian withdrawn,- and that Major Iteresford was to • vaeate; and CO being flaked if he had ,any knowledge that electors were cits which e•eated at the total change of men and ofbribed to vote, Sir, it the° fur him and Olejor Beresiord, he said he had bi o car's very a ur a s " place.-(Hear . , hear, and laughter.) no now L g , . Viscount, tae . s ang, mane things considered. k lel eof it, except through the money p . incl. He [The had rio doubt whatever, it was notorious that Llll3 sort of suablethe House cordia e said these wordy, laughed heartily, "ill there was another thing was earned on. Tire next eke, ion was in 1847, and f ch w as, I think, IIY participeted in his merament a he would observe, that at time time these things were going, . Point which struck me as to a word on at Harwich. Mr. Attwood was carryiug on similar . o opeai r - . Ot diving into the d t e v p r t i h t , t a ert af ha eri l y; and without opportunity none at Lyme Regis. A great deal had been saidbe t.al cleata treaties. T Rymer and consulting our an- Edwards and tax. Blsgg, and their things at Sr.S Albane,. do not wish t Thou t have great respect for Ausaria, and o detract trorn o enders- etas the utility of • her alliance to Eng.- but they ,were mere land, or t piginias mr cunipared with i t ll m r. er i e loss a , think,: a • the antiquity ? tending, 1 far back. of that alliance (ex- the agent of Mr, Attwood. Moss was no t of merely 'a further), I think th e e. as 1 65a-1 cannot c giver of bribes. to .a greet extent, but an espouen , Slipped rather tas ks carry at political opinions of, his candidates. Mr. Moss arrived Plicati on o f the Wor d s , e oldest ally" at Harwich on the 15th of Juee, 1847, and he initne - a od ear )_ seej a k thate:tly from the pen of the Government Y diately published an aciefress, in, which he Mated that Mr.. tive, with Portueal as ea : lead a treaty; offensive and defen- Attwood and another gentleman would seek their. suf . _e2tt:antgesow I, think that however as 6 3 ; a s, the year 1313.--hear,() And bey Portugal can shteeetaaa n " an all'frages, "who would support their trade, reduce their t he rs t i t a k r back Aus tr a s t a may t I • • tercourse between, the earlya period, and not only was church-rates, and establiee an in an alliance defensive, but in- ° tNarhe.report and north :of. Europe." When,questioned in the Come a treaty binding as to mittee, Mr. 'Moss said before he published the address he acted upon by sending a force to p • years afterwards it was had held out a hope to a few individuals the hope that their are with Castilla: ' Sir, I ana aut o ° t r h tti gal has, beene., our v t e ca p ertuge.: _ . at to assist her in the oburch - rates would be paid for them. At page es'of the lau gh) our early and faithful ally the ~ we should not pass " Bluebook ," Mr• Curran stated that he had a list of 33' ie uee , ee po")-and although Austna (A electors, to whom he paid more than 3,000/. for their votes. the on many o ccas i o ns, from ci rconwee _ rY valuable to us, This, therefOre, was a much more monstrous case than St. Was will and inclinations ot ' the atuarrara Gu i eee na 'Pendent of Albans, where the electors got , some 21., 31., or_ al. each. p._e,lleedatto different' times in •the course °f the ' Len:anent, it Here they averaged mare than NO/. each. - That was the' break away Elora the A engagers entB ere liWar COM.. election of 1842. . Then,, • with regard to the election of Kl_kt c --(Sarcastic cheers, and laughter fr om tac t under- 1847, the Committee reported, "That the laat electiOn, so. Gentlemen' then, Si r, 1 mina t hat th e speech of th e e a I l lixtrals.). far as regarded the election of John. Attivood, Esq.; was, a_entlenian the Secretary for the Home Depeetatotllon. void. , eseoptequite so satisfaetory in regard to the Resolved that the said John Attwood, Esq., was , by point to. _2am'agenta guilty, of bribery at the S3itt election.", The gate , uaacially the resolution of my Hon. Friend- point - ..„ t , it a w ie ah le ,dence went to how that about 9,000/. Was epeat.on that Oc roauenilnlie disposition of the Government. The reso'ution e t • 7 48 i°n• Since then there ad, beeu twe er three elections sea ta . n• Frie nd*points - distinctly (I may almost say axon _ t o l, :r liarwich ; but the cases of- bribery were.llot gone into, reply of to the intentions of foreign r i overnments, and the ti e : M embers being• unseated without. He had !mown that tentiti°f the Right Hon. Gentleman tells us what are the in. bees_ roees corruption prevailed at St. Aivans; that it had th a e os oft he British Government, and on a different point, oa_awece convicted of bribery Within two years. .11e spa twice referring to Engli s h tr ave ll ers , the other to foreign, Ea - Z o _to e ah . e House Wallow him to introduce this Bill, and Hi e e a ,• Still, however: lam willing to accept the State- goytmunigeninttevery one ,who had the morality and good th e 2' the Right Hon. Gentlem an , even more l arg ely than him th e pea : - the people at heart would join in -granting ft w rds of °°ver ° n fn It aPPear to go, believing that now there is a Mr. H . ji.E ature that he' asked. 3,lopathisent Which appears , in the opinion of Austria, to Member would efaiEYAIER hoped the lion. and Gallant °m the a as more Italy with her principles -( Sarcastic cheers further pe0 g „, 8 7, 3 P,a, him if he endeavoured to stop , the it UPP°BitiOn) -than the lAdministration did. As now in the enieeaents measure. Why was . not Harwich beenaP e preatrs that now; at ' leas t, ate atnic ahle relations have second election ant of , its two Members? , After the recediasgozd. which we were•told had not existed in the year, the judge-hb aß go t r elembers, which took place last it ° ee aPPear re years (I can say this -was entrusted with a l La. e Friend the Judge Advocate more freely now becausepetition' eeler e e, a , now• that it d practices , but of interference, complaininnotof dates not from December but from . e _.„ . . . g feeling-such‘. l,--- t8 it appears that Majesty's late Goverrenan7a i ntimidating practises by English a mut . now there is such a friendly her Committee,which 4 andhe• - gave notice of a mo and A • ult. confidence established between the tion for a ich be wee laughter) nstnan Gayer . did not oppose..,_T h f .,_ bound e to say travellers --so that there nm ents--(Sarcastic cheers and Government h. in consectuee e a a 2 aa mitteowas - appmeted, to my al in Austria there d !' 3 n" no . danger for British but it did.not Ing f last --"' °f the think their urable Friend.(amnions.- I venture to suggest eession. The Committee 0 session, lateness of the * ()Per • e ai r ee . presiding, entered into a - - watch he had • purposes in b d traion h as 'wines) that be may the honour of Csed, it w caref ul aortal and, therefore his motion.sufficienly accomplished his if bribery had been prac 1 . .... as anep oosiate IY, and view to those' -"" Go forward-(H h should" not have known it. , Ote believed: tha that They erhtneht Ca' ld no ear, ear)-- shou . h t bribery - • t a very must be the best jud C oct:laid . ink • gas er a t, ona, of it better, with a elections took . place without occurring -b few f diefrenchisement• • but not to adopted, --if it wouldbe'ethat this which the Government such an extent as to just' y , Boted o n nwsi is resolution friend to bribery and corruption There. ot moot as a rebuke for off enCe: ere4 at b r th e A should not be supose that he WM a . in bribery and corrupti on .: e, that it would render less satisrtha- h ave Austria, Govern- Was nothing conservative in local connexion, and fror n a'h r e that two Governments, I should the relattiot i o os ext e it, and was influence de a r l iv e ed ercise of magisterial dutier. This wite queaf the Government think it :: I, ttr e ' t te te itlY Hon. Friendtreen j le ust e and in:p fi ar o t e i nee influence, but it was at the mercy of any man wh o teat the t e than to agree to the motion r(e- move the previous was gi i s m en a t te do u wn by the Reform Club with a bag of soaereigns, y would not attempt to talus a negatitaannie. of course, He believed, however, that Mr. Coppock over-estimated his think statement which no one can deny) - Zalace it con- ewer of tion. la. the Committee it appeared there pow . corrup i re fit to move the previous question -;ta evshouldbut there did not ape c ommend e e . . was consideraale influence exercised, to mod e. Friend not to she (hoof. 1 ' briberyll for the notice of the 4e 9hieSCl3 - a (Hai . rea ly pear such a case of as to ca d in that •of dispoMng ofVe ry pr a mn, but House. One voter was proved to have been corruted, an e.i. J. e has brought forward. - (Cheer.) o P e re and his vote was struck off. He would now state, as tar as he a _ ' a l a WALSH hoped that the II M - .present, What ract would adopt on. eneeer tor p n could, as the Hon. Member for Kent was not Wa a aer the suggestion of the Noule Lord '3'4.- took place in the other Committee. It seemed there was' R hea onlrY that the motion had been brought forward . a ., foolish custom at Harwich to destroy the pollirg booths as betdine . a caused speeches and a discussionwhich ' it 8 • that occasion ail irritation and interrupt the • would pro_ soon as the polling was over, and on they ween this friendly relations exists ' were so anxious to commence their work of destruction that tain that country and foreign nations. He was not s g the were five minutes too soon, and they invalidated the e_l at foreign countries had o ' elect ue aands they had not some grounds for the I na ion. That was all the case they bad befere the coin r9f, ...,... so perseveringly rested with regard . ittee. It was said that it was a small borough. Caine tl e g'• As the state of thin b ' g to ' was sots, perhaps that was the thing a road was now more set- A ? small borough, and Caine was._ under influence. eeru nd i ;i l. o strongly pressed, and he that these demands were a u „ e was a small borough, and Arundel was under in ich alight he rejoiced to see that a subject e °ce I and there, were many more. He could name Woe withhave afforded reasonablegr ounds - - s mite that belonged to those who sat . on his Bide of the *ya England had been e Bl o - . ' t Lst reference to the laws considered by foreign powers a Bill t e Noble late First Minister, brought in etr of England and public o• • e o remedy what he considered this evil; but the Noble - to and they had not pr ed pinion Lord saw p ,„. _ ess demands which mig h t hav e no :reason why Harwich should be treated differ -1‘44-14091anataRt tg igh ! ently from N g u s ii i i vaanc _,.,,_ _, . . other boroughs, nor did he. Were they prepared . IMAM rum su 1w a 9 tcyratof over ~b9r99g4,7410 WY 744 4,4 to 44 tit! .. .... , , LONDON, wards Harwich ? He had stated that if the Hon. and Gal lant Member itucceeded itt his • motioe, he would make, a similar motren respectieg the borough, of L eicester;J but the Hen. Memb er forthat borough ,assured Innithat no bribery took place at the lasteleciron - ,„ritir he' believed hitn: . None took place at the lait election for - Harivicii r and if they did not bear unjustly upon IlarWielY,• he would not inake hit motion respecting Leicester.; e • • 4 : - • • Mr. CLAY said it Mattered little - to him whether the cor ruption at Harwich ~was, proinoted • by the late -Government, or by any individual., Ile hoped .fie the eredit of all :admi nistrations that' they ,would.ioin.in, , puttiog „an • end. to such diegrkceful doinssm a e atter, Of this kind notoriety, was all they . required . te : in2juee them, to' act. Ie had it on the authority of a. geotlethan intimately atqn4nt6a, • with 'the place, that in 1841 two men, Miler - and son, re ceived between thent 'They booghtlarge barges with the money, and were and'ebione , enough tb naMeone.Of them The Attwood. Thte - Otheirehe not - know the ramie of, but it might be The;Phimpen In. other ;Cases - voters' were Made so drunk - -":that e theataievec.goesotiter main, bet 'died drunk. He . hefieveri..tbefibeeleening ; Corninissionat o inquire into beroughs P Where* was 101 loved alrat bribery had be e n, practised, would do infer& good to prompte, oux,ity of election ; than anything they ladyte r ato',ef.qq,r,hf4 object,during,the , !set Ceriturv.; • : '' e. „ Mr. BAG'StIAW eitleerveffilli.Viebat said :Were hiS genuine - conVictiims;"iiiiirthistigti the;flon. and o.en tleMan had raised alogheatAti elqiense, , his Wetds'irtitild be found to Le'truif, .Thee bestecoutise:Whibli' the-House , cenld pursue'svoiald be' to, isstew the writ for , liarefieh - at the aiext general elect ion,' and let thbebnintigh. be: tried by , ite conduct then. If• the con'ttiniencsewere„wiee , po4o,they.wouldknow, he:* to act. (Lnud,laugjener,),,„ 4e • , -.; e Le ee- Mr. Secretary WALPOLE °rimed_ 14 1 :motion,. What Wit asked for wes, that the Hijuee shank ;awe a Caernnise sion; With enorinous'aket thiconitittitiddaPiAorier6 l whiOlf in: many 'respecta- would - sirpers.e& of, th4"land. l .---; ( Hear, hdare) !Sochi CleneraiitioN Ire thought, aught hav'er to be!granten - except •In-e:clear; eaet ''•of - corruption tetently and distinctly alleged: -(Otieerse)- If-they agreed - :to 'the motion they *Mild giarate a. 7 tejerityof that Hofisees pbiser to deal with boroughs.andeifenntifis that 4 1 14; 1 4, be opposed to'their views, fen which ,henould, nevineciiesente-r(cheera. I The authorities opt* which tbin case.rested -were, those. of Sudbury - and St: Albahe,,lnit.l4 i beggedthe, ,H c iinseip. bear in mind heir' greatly, *a° theSe..precedents differed from the case - before Ahern. ' - Sirdbfiry ttie bribery was so great: that - Vet bf the 276"-eleeterV: who polled for , Dyce Sombre;' no fewer •tiiiin - 20) ,- . Were' ,, preyed • :to 'lave been' bribed; • . - end , the , tomegailonera , reported that'they believed the bribery •must- have • :been. • carried to a , much greater extent, - becauee e , ateabezete,of;7 - 1: per head, that would not' 'have accounted - for ; b1ie:3.0 4 2q.-wbith 4.04 been sent 'to the borough for e ,oq - ,, narpeseeof ~corronting -the e voters: The cafe of.At."Albans was still stropger., ~Accord-ing to Cappock'tii . bribe or ;V"l:ileed" Wes the, general. practice, and Alderman Carden said' tha'pniiticelopinions of most of the 'constituents Were` in their breech:lie ponkets;7- (Laughter.) The CoMmitsibneta in this ease' alto reported that the practice 'was not occasional but general and systematic. Out of ;290,; voters who polled for one •of the candidates, only 30 Were:supposed:to have-been. tine bribed ; and - out •of .276 who had voted en :the other. side,- 186 were elderly bribed .In both.taina -there Was. thus shown to be universal corrnptign, wait was proved ; to have occurred at the election which lead just taken place; but in the case of Harwich, the.'Honetirable and Gallant :Meniber had gone back as far as 18 1 12,."and had billy comedown as late as 1847 or 1848.' There 'Might' h ave s - been bribery 'in both cases, but then:there Witt briberritit Leicester,' in the case of which the Committee reported that the - system carried on had been such as to demanh.fthe attention "of the HOuse. But would it be just and fair to the'Hom Meinbera for Lei , . tester, because bribery. had been proved. in 1844;0 - issue a commission with euorinimaand unconstitutional powers, and then to dispossesi tilem..,of their : seats,. and disfranchise the borotigh? Where bribery bad taken place, it ought imm ee diately to be inquired . i n t o ; but in the case of Harwich, two elections had occurred . Since' 1847, ori both of which yeti fions had been issued, te first of'WhiCh alleged only a want * of qualification, and the Mid' only+ ifitimidatiOn.--Vlear; hear.) He wanted to knove - then - on -what principle they could issue a commission !to itiquire•intO this-, Case, 'without also inquiring; into•all- other .places where - Hon:Gentlemen could get up and say thatehotorious ! bribery had been practised.—(flear, hear.). -.The duty of the. House t wee to protect the minoritYre(Ltanffrr)e-andetherefore , .. pra. tested' against a course might lead tq.the results, which he had already pointed, Out,-( Hear, hear.) Beaides e there was also • this anomaly. • They hid, ffisfranchised one borough (St. Albans), of *bleb :the Hori:lderriber 'still kept his seat; and now they were asking for $' parliamentary iu quiry into another; ;Whereto - 'corrupt pailetlees had been . proved. They were keeping open. that • seat for More than 12 months; 'but surely the ithabitante of that town-were as much entitled to have a representative in 'the House as any other borough.—( Einar, hear.) - He oonsideredesfirst,• that they were not entitled, ;at, all to inetituto an inquiry„into any alleged corrupt precticee; union. torch .eorruption e wers recent; and, secondly, thateuch inquiries ought to be,pro ceeded with immediate) .Rtberwise they Might deprive the country far one or two yeareOf 'its proper hombei of e-- ' repre sentative(Hatir,'hear.) lir th e present case, hOWeVer, as the seat had beed kept open" n ihotiths,'airid: as . a' general election was So near et haift(Ctielers)-ehe did" ot thihk it would be right to move!for; anew vrrit --(Bear e :heir.) • Mr. J. BELL thought that the . case of.,Sti:Albans male:bad enongli, Withnut making , -any , 7warset. , than it, was,- (Laughter.) lie thonghtit was very sniverato exaggerate, the - amount of its, c0r , r40, 1 94e• e Aceording,A o the, figures of the Cemmissionere'. reliv e - e ther's ; were 200 voters ,against whom there was ne.allega.fierri:o(.bilbery ork 'corruption, and therefore the corruption Wai.ii9lnniVertiel: „With „respect t the present metros hit WieTte a'aennesi'hat'dlffienityotidn? If he voted for - the prOpttadd he should' inta iheppost-' Lion to the argnmeinthe had need in faViiiii'ef'SCAllnartie- 1 - (Laughter)- and if he voted against - it. , !heshotild be appa rently voting in favour of corruption.--(Laughter.) - Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL objected to the animadversions which the Hon. Member (Mr. Clay) had cast upon the Election Committee. He (Mr. O'Connell). had sat upon two Committees, in both of which the Members were un seated-in one of them (the Lincoln case) upon the very smallest possible amount of evidence that could be considered sufficient. Of course they were bound to see that the case was proved according to the law of the land.—(Hear.) Mr. CLAY had certainly no intention to censure the Com mittee, but he did think that they were not the best tribunals for sitting evidence, as he thought had been confessed by the issuing of commissions. —(Hear.) Mr. T. DUNCOMBE protested against the idea that the supposed approach of a general election was any reason why a new writ should not be issued. The reason why it had not been moved for in this case was, because the inquiry had been pending. How would the evidence of Mr. Coppock have been obtained but for the St. Albans Commission; and if the Commission now asked for were issued. no doubt they would be able to get the evidence Of Mr. Attwood, which would in duce the House to pegs a Bill for the disfranchisement of Harwich. At all events, if the Commission did not issue, he (Ir. Duncombe) should Certainly move for the new writ, because he thought an injustice would'he chine; if they any longer suspended it, to a :Very immaculate and honest be rough.—(Laughter.).. ;; he.should not inove for the-writ,-"binlsblf,'4llear' hear. ) Mr. WALPOLE exp l a i ne d t h at un d er th e c i rcumstances Mr. BAN KES e,xplained. :that , the 'petition to the House, alleging that three of the five voters.: , who .constituted the majority at .the last Harwich eketionhad been intimidated by the late Government, had: been placed in his hands by persona whom he helieved.to be respectable ;; but he had no further interest in ,the matter. Whatever. At the beginning , of the present session there had been no: petition .praying fur a renewal of the inquiry, and therefore,' although the same Government was then .in office,: he , . had not thought it his duty to press the subject. ~ I t was: quite. true that he , had moved for a Comrnittee, butthat was a very different thing from a Commissien. (Hear;•.hear.). With regard .to the cese.of St. Aihena,, there..had been a • technical difficulty 'as to the adjournment of the Cominittee,:luad that had vitiated their whole proceedings .: So 41r.Vill4he from wishing to stretch the power of the,Constitution,: that he had voted against. that Commission, thinkingalat its powers should be intrusted to.. Members ofthat Henan; : - andwished they. had been: so. The Houie would have stood higher hadthat inquiry been con . ducted by its members; ThateConunissiou haa-shaken their jurisdiction, and-had tended.. to invalidate the • decisions;of their Committees. At :present ha saw no ground for the pro posed:Commission. . Had, a Committee been proposed sup t orte 1 by such a petition :as ,had , presented, he would have voted fur it.. ~If, thellon.; Member. for Finsbury would move the issue of • the write for. Hernial, he would vote with him. • • " : . ; ; , , Mr. DEEDES sa id ,he had acted as chairman of the second Harwich, Election. Committee.. ,No:, evidence as to bribery was laid before them; nor was. any conclusion .come to en that subject::: • •Tllo. - ammittees. decisiennvas founded entirely on a ,poiat of Jaw ' atto whether the poll was kept open the proper time--whether it lied ebeeneinterrapted.by. improper violence-e-'‘and:.,whethene the returning officer -had takenthe steps he ought have The - Committee thought he had not d00e , e9,-,•an.deconSequently :•cleemed•it a void election. It had 'been ' ehaborough.. was so • maculate why should it.oljeet to an; inquiry? That:might be made an argument; 10c.,* Corentisaion •IW.any case where there was no complaint whatever, ;He touldnot help think ing that Harwich waorither hardly-dealt with, :and he saw no reason why a writ,ekonidaotissue. It was altogether an unfair proceeding .-... Sir. DE LACY EVANS,Iitt reply, said he was not aware that the minority_ had anpsucit Reenliar Claims to consider ation as had : been urged by. the Honia Secretary; •le lad always. understood. that; ;she- entatOrity decided everything. He justified- the appointment e of, the Commission by reference to the case pfSLeAlbantheancitontended that great - benefit had resulted therefrOm..e :7; , 7: ; -;- • - Mr. ROEBUCK thought the , proposal-:for a Commission came rather too :The inquiry' at St.: Albans had been insthuted merely to enable the House to arriveat, the , facts ; and upon these facts the Bill brought:in. by the Noble Lord (Russell), and takert_np • the present', Government. was founded. He could, not vote in. favour Of this,Commission; and bethought they ought not to allow-that night to pass without issuing the,writ.: lie would have.voted for this mo- , tion had it been :made a. year .ago. Now, the :best thing they .could do was ,to leteleterwich. have another trial•to save itself from condemnation.- .:He had no doubt it was a corrupt place a year ago but , the, Mcame otion too late: • T he House thenilivid4Whert there - appeared— • For the,motion-..“-b:...".:,,‘ • ' - 93 e-•, .• Against it . . 137 • Majority : against the itiotion...ese.... - e-e--41:-. ; Mr. T. DUNCOMBE . saidi : eas been decided that no inquiry should take, lace, the House. had no right to dig. , franchise the borough, either fur a - weeke :for, two weeks, or a month. lie , r therefore - :moved that the Speaker should . issue his warrant to the - ,clerk of , the ,crown, directing a writ to issue- for the.: borough, of Harwich, in the room of:Mr. Crawford. : ere eee e . , !• -e- Mr. BRIGHT said thisintition - seemedta follow: somewhat naturally from the 7course! taken by,tbe Government, but there was no necessity•that it should follow so • immediately: A former attempt; hadbeennnade to move this- write and the House had thought thatitehotild be suspended forsometime suddenness f longer, for some- cause not , Very clearly explained ;: but there Tetel etsthdatiscinaosliti slaouudlduhael-e was an understanding that.notice should be given before the. writ was mevech After a debate which .was not supposed to have any specialreference to thamotion, and after the pre and notiee crostansnedathiedg, to. * .c ou on ld si o d o e t rin b g e fair the propositiOnvand that Many Members had loft the..no ° tion s eeitki ll o se , baving-nwidea whatever that any such rno nhenittede he hoped ii !would be withdrawn, merit, that the debateethe - holidays', He moved, as an amend= to put it fa iv fora future day. it - would- be. better taideeonded the - amendment. e • • . ecethat was another most unfortunate Sir DE L. EvA s t , onid:beadjourned. Sir J. .TYRELL instance of the unti of. d ‘peared to him that 'the' have a - finger in every-, Hon. Gentleman , opp=„ 4,r d lt, 'lmPronerinterference of the not accede to the dicta tllhlianngc.h.estHereschhopcieodl w th er e e li deite usreinwin ' of. :to said , ethat the Bharat,' party 'iniving - laughter) - or concur tiorejustmade. Mr. BROTIARTO , t• hoped d tion of tba.broad hr!rna_mthe: irru , oppo ula itl ou _, ( , ‘ oh, , 013,, , ? and the_lebause would , not act in opposition to the underetan inge ,)hat no; writ was to issue without due flake, (Hear, helm ) vote as far as II just joined in en unpopular v erwich was:con . cerned, the Hon: 'Member:for Flnsbttrrnow4noved that the -, writ do issue, Mr. NEWDEGATE although-he. had ilia 60 w - declared- thatit • was not fit to return a Member ear, bear.) The H on , mem. log for hipoliesta toreros WuWorepit .;.for. be. - - - Imoved that the issuing of the writ be postpond for ten days. What he should suggest was that tha writ bemoved for to morrow (this day).—(" Hear, hear," and crie of" divide.") Mr. BIaGEIT said that his motion was tha the debate be adj , mrnecl. Mr. DUNCOHBE said that he should be he last person to ask the House to break through any • undemanding; but the understanding was, that the writ shouldnot be issued without inquiry. The Hon. Member for Wetaninster had moved for an iaquir,y, and the House having,decided upon that point, he bowed to the opinion of the najority ; but :thenatural consequence of.l.hat declaim) was, that the elec tors of HarKich should not be d e p r i ve d o f h e i r r i g ht s .— (Hear, hear.) lie believed the House 'was coupetent to de ''ride the question that night, but if it thotkht otherwise he bad no objection to postpone the motion 111 to-morrow . (this day).= ( Hear.) Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL said that it was of the greatest importance that'the House should not decide titan this ques tion hastily and without deliberation.. As age could be no election before the Easter recess, he thought he sugges tion of the , Hon. Member for Manchester would Peet the ne cessity of thecase- „ WALPQLE said that when he gave his 'reasons for thinking that the writ ought riot to be•issued; heanitted one reason, for it might be suppose] . if he moved fir the writ, tliat he did so in order to endeavour to obtain anadvantaga Co the Government.—(Hear, hear.) He had thatopinion in, his dein mind, though ite did 'not...express it. lot having, already stated HIS reasons why he thought the vrit should lie' issued; he should 'prefer that the -motion shouil be made after notice given.—( Hear,) The motion and ,amendment was then withdraws, and Mr. DLINCOM BE gave, notice that he would move the issuing of the writ to-morrow. Cilgrt'OP-41ATtS . . TRELA'NNY'tIten rose to bring on th e tn6t6n which .he tad on t paper respecting church-r a t es , but ' Sir It: INGLIS interfered, and said that he tqfpialed not AO much to the Hon.'Gentlernar t at 'to the elock.--(a laug h.) wa's now ten - Minutes past 'elev en - o ' clock, and he eked the. Hon. Member whether, there was any chance of fo laver tent a question as that of church -rates being satisfactorily diecassed at that hour? The Hon. Member hirnsilf might be,ableoto secure the attention of the House, but whit chance was there for those who might follow him ? —(Hem. ; hear.) . Mr. TRELAWNY said if it was the general feelitg of the House he Waa 'willing to postPone'the motionlear.) Motion Accordingly postponed. • • , ' • •• ' • POOR-LAW COMNIISSION Sir J. TROUOPE moved for leave to bring in a Bill to continue the Poor-law Commission for a limited Um*. Sir G. PECHELL complained, at some length, of the con- duct of the Poor-law Commission in its attempt to sbolish the Gilbert unions throughout the country, and partitularly blamed the. Commissioners ter the course 'vihich'thef had pursued with reference ,to the parish of Alverstoke with Gosport. The Hon. Baronet, after haying commented at some length on that case, concluded by expressing his belief 'that there was nothing to justify the conduct of the,loor law Commissioners in the matter. In reply to a Question from Lord D. STUART, Sir J. TROLLOPE thought his, Hon. and Gallant Prtend (Sir G. Pechell) ought to have deferred his mot i on f or cop i es of the report Mr. Hawley made to the Poo r -l aw Commis ioners until he (Sir J. Trollops) had int ro d uced his Bill for continuing the Poor-law Commission for a limited' period. As for the Bill, he only sought by it to continue the Poor- Tali' Commission for two years, and he should now venture tO ask the House to allow bins to introduce his Bill. Leave was given to introduce the Bill, • Sir J. TROLLOPE moved for leave to bring in a Bill to continuo• an - Act of the fifteenth year of her Majesty, for charging the maintenance of certain poor persons iu unions in England and Wales upon the common fund. Sir H.. WILLOUGHBY inquired whether it was the intention of the Hon Member (Sir J. Trollops) to wind up the Commission at the end of twit years? Sir J. TROLLOPE replied, the matter did not rest with him. lie now only asked for leave to bring in his Bill. The Bill was then brought in. Sir'G. PECHELL moved for copies of the report made to the Poor-law Board by Mr. Hawley, ppor-la w i nspector, the parish, of. d Alverstokee the 2Oth day with o f Gosport, October,i incorporated relatingra te under Gilbart's Act, with , a copy of the order issued by the Poor-l aw B oar d guardianst 2 o Bth th e e a v y is o it f o F r e a b n r d uar7Bs2t w of ith th t e he s c a op said: parish, of the lett er that. arish, d a t e d th e aCcompanied the same, dated 'the 9th day of March, 1852; together ,the "Copies of all cOrrespendence which has 'taken place since the last-mentioned - date oetween the Poor law Board and the gnat diens of the poor of the said parish, 'and other parties, on the 'subject Of such order.' And, of a C k o e u L r' tenay, on the on the 21st the several reports m a d e en the inspection o f Al versto k e da wo y rk o h f o D us e e c , e b m y b heir,esslrBsi9Ci by Viscount_ ampbell nCi G" Ist day of. August, 1850: by Mr. Redduck, on the 9th day of April, 1851; and by Mr. Hawley, or the sth day of June, 1851. Sir .J, TROLLOPE objected to the latter part of the motion. Sir G. PECHELL must insist on having it. Sir J. TROLLOPE could not comply, as the papers were not in possession of the Poor-law Board. 'Sir G. PECHELL withdrew the latter part of the motion, and the amended motion was agreed to. Sir G. PECHELL moved for a return of the amount o( freight-money, received by the treasurer of Greenwich H os . ,pital. in each year, since the year 1819, stating in what pro - portion -the freight-money for the conveyance of specie is divided betweeen the royal hospital, the captains and con - . mandera' of ,her Majesty's ships, and the admirols and conimodoree of the 'several stations where the treasure. was embarked. The motion was agreed to. '' 'The O'GOR3IAN MASON- obtained , leave to bring in to amend the Acta for lighting towns in Ireland, and for promoting trade, commerce, and public revenue by drain age and navigation, so far as relates to Ennis and the River Fergus. MUNICIPAL • CORPORATION ACTS AMENDMENT BILL. The House having gone into Committee on the Bill, Mr. HEADLAM moved, as an amendment, the addition of the tbllowing words at the end of section 1 :—" or in any banking company which may have had, or may hereafter have, dealings or transactions with any such councillors, commissioners, or trustees of such borough." The ATTORNEY-GENERAL having objected to the amendment, The Committee divided, when there appeared— For the amendment Against ... Majority against ... The clause wa4 then agreed to. After some observations from Mr. H. EDWARDS. The remaining clauses of the Bill were then agreed to, and the House resumed. 'The Mutiny Bill and the Marine Mutiny Bill were se verally read a third time, and passed ; and The House adjourned at a Quarter to One o'clock. ••• ••• - - ... .. .. 37 ... ... -24 Rear-Admiral Berkeley, C. 8., paired oft' for, with Mr. Colville, against, Mr. Berkeley's motion on the ballot. Mr. George Thompson paired in favour of Mr. Tre 7 lawny's motion on chntch-rates, With Mr. H. C. Lacy. ........___________ WEST II22I VSTER-BRIDGE. The following is the, report of the Westminster^ bridge Commission of 1851 : "10 THE LORDS CoMuissi casEns OF riER MAJESTY'S Tnuasunir. " We, the Commissioners appointed under the directions contained in a letter from your Lord ships dated the 20th of Da a y 1851, nominating us to b 1 ;Commissioners for the purpose of ~ con sidering the best end most convenient site for a new bridge et Westminster, and, at the same time, what will bo the best mode of construction with re ference both to the traffic over it and to the purposes of e xamined wit nesses , an d ta k en the onpaivnigioanti°ofns'e g ehearvtillnmost eminent engineers and architects on these points, beg to submit the following report:— "The subject of the rebuildi ng of Westminster-bridge has already occupied the attention of three Committees of the House of Commons i n the years 1844, 1846, and 1850. " In the r e port of the sd to be t be s stated tof theseCoi r opinion mmittee made ba s, tta in Clit i not be r equ i red; but they recom mended new the bridge year could strengtheningo te l e re theod present structure. una nimously that the f 184 6 took a d i ff erent v i ew o f th e mended certain alterations f or the purpose of 'improving subject, u n .b d :i eTebt,em aened r m is, present bridge should be taken down and that a new bridge eli , utd be constructed. - " The Committee of 1850, concurring in this opinion, advised that a power should be taken by Act of Parlia maii to . erect a temporary bridge adjoining the present etructtire, in case such a work should be rendered ne cessary; a id they further recommended than an inquiry should be made for the purpose both of ascertaining the most economical mode of building another bridge on or the present site, and also of deciding the height of head way above Trinity datum which would be necessary for the convenience of the navigation. -" This temporary bridge not hiving been commenced, the expediency of acting under the power conferred by Parliament in the session of 1850 is open for reconside ration, " The subject of our inquiries divides intself into two portions —one having reference to the uestion of ' site' q for the new bridge, and the other as to its ' mode of cone struction.' .'. - • - '‘ In the evidence we hare taken several sites were suggested for our .consideration :—. " - 1.. That the new bridge should b e on the s i te o f t h e present bridge. "2. That in should be built at some distance from the present bridge, lower down the river ; and "3. That it should be erected adjoi n i ng, or es near as possible to, the present structure. " The advantage of the first of th ese Plans, . that the new bridge should be on the site of the present bridge, ' • planwould necessarily the e e consider that is, that the approaches would be provided without , and occasion both addi tional expense • but, on the othhr hatend of f e t s h e e p approaches resehtaily ar ie e cr i e n a a s d in eci g tm tr t a e fil—c involve the erection of a temporary bridge ; and we are inconvenience and danger. This informed that the site of ' the old piers would present •dilfieulties in constructing the foundation of new piers. This course would, moreover, also necessitate the entire removal of the old bridge before the new ene could be' commenced, 'and would consequently occasion delay and increase the cost of this removal.. -" In considering this plan, 'the period of time which would necessarily be occupied in the completion of theSe successive structures should not be overlooked. A temporary bridge could not be biought lute use in less than IS months from its commencement, and the works for the new permanent structure could not be com menced till the opening of the temporary bridge. We are also informed that tho permanent bridge could not be constructed in two years. £he temporary bridge would delay the permanent structure for which it would in the meantime be an inconvenient substitute. For these reasons we cannot recommend the adoption of . tlle present site as the 'best suited for the new bridge, and we deem it desirable; to select a site which may enable us to avoid the expense and the delay of a temporary bridge. With respect to the second -plan—' That the new bridge should be built st•some distance from the present bridge, lower down the 'river,' we have renewed th e in quiry into the sites which have at various times been proposed for a bridge in lien of -the existing. vi estm i n . ster-bridge, and which are referred to in the reports of the Parliamentary Committees on this subject. The following sites have more particularly attracted our attention:—.Charing-cross, Richmond-terrace, the India Roard._ pll these'are more or less liable - to the same objections, namely, an increase of expense and additional delay in aecuring a permanent communication acroks I,4o,rivor, ...•••• • - FRIDAY EVENING, APRIL 2, 1852 " With regard to a sit,' near Charing-cross, we are in clined to concur in the opinion of Mr. Pennothorne, who Observes, ••that if, who reference to the Houses of Par liament, or for any other relson, the site of the present bridge must be moved, then it would, as respects the general traffic, be moot advisable to convert the present bridge in a light iron foot bridge only, and build two other bric.7ges at a distance, as it would be more advantageous to the public generally to incur at once the greater cost of building two bridges in connexion with the new streets 7onteraplated for' the improvement of 'Southwark and Lavibeth, than to expend a,large sum in forming approaches riot so convenient as the existing ones, and which possibly afterwards it would be neces sary to extend.' • Tae sites near Richmo'ad terrace and the India Board hre more favoUrsbly oircurristaneed; and if the block of houses which now sOarstes Parliament -street from King -street were removed, either of these situa tions inignt be .pre;erable to the one which iv() have selected. But it is airviutia that much additional time would' be loit, and a lar g e additional expense incurred. before either of these could be rendored tit for the con stiaCtiou, Of a perwanout bridge With its requisite ap . prcewhes. • .‘ Property of considerable value must be acquired both ot.i the Middlesex .ann - Surrey sides of the river be fore convenient. access,:s could be made to a new briclg4 at either of these p points. The time required f o r the s e `rensses would delay the opening of the now bridge; a nd even wizen eJuipleted, although it might give ail , . . bpphruthity ftir architectural display, it seems doubtful whether the change of site would be regarded as af fordingany gaieral convenience commensurate with' its •*!laving thus , stated, our objaetions to the above inentiOtieu .rtes, we proceed to report our opinion. on the iodvaniages which would ensue if the third aid last plan were 'carried into Teat the new brolge shoUld be etaistructed . adjoining, or as near as possible, .6 the present . briage i either oil the north or south side.' "A -new bridge on the south side of the present structure would ne objectiOnsble on account of its proxi mity to the Houses of Partiament. This objection Woald be increased if the -bridge were constructed wish a heigot of headwAy of twenty-five feet abort , Trinity datum. The erection of this bridge would, moreover, necessitate the immediate purchase of the entire south pule of Bridge-street, which consists of 27 . houses,.none of whi c h are the property of the B r id g , Comoussioriere.. The purchase of these houses, inclu ding the interests of . the tenants, compensation for good will, 'removal, would very far exceed 'the' cost of anquiring'any property on the north side of Bridge street witch might be required for.the approaches to the new bridge, if it were placed to the north of the exist ing bridge. The — property on the north side of Bridge -street consists of a block of nine houses, extending westward as far as Caunon-row, and one house westward of Can non-row, all of which are the property of the Bridge Commission. On the west of the last-named house is a small block extending to Parliament -street, which is not the property of the Bridge Commissioners. The leases of these houses are either expired or have but a short time to run. " So much inconvenience and danger are at present experienced from the confined approaches and very sharp turn from Bridge-street into Parliament-street, that it will be necessary to make the accesses to any new bridge considerably wider than they are at the present time. " Some information upon the comparative cost of constructing a bridge with the requisite approaches upon the sites above-mentioned will be found in the Appendix, as well 114 „lu tho evidence of Mr. ilardwick and of 'Mr. Pennethorne. The question of cost has not been specially referred .to our consideration, nor would it be possible to add a satisfactory opinion on• this matter without a minute inquiry into the value of property, which may be variously estimated. We believe, however, that the north aide of the present structure will be the most convenient and eco- • uomical size for the new bridge; the most convenient, be cause the work could be immediately commenced, and its erection Will therefore be attended with the least ob struction to the traffic; and the most economics], both on account of the smaller expense which would be required for the acquisition of property necessary for the enlarge ment of the approaches, and because it avoids the neces sity of a temporary bridge. " Having thus stated - the grounds of our opinion as to the most advantageous site for the new bridge, we proceed to report to your Lordships our views as to the best mode of construction, the - width, the height of head way above Trinity datum, the number of arches, and the material to be used for its formation. "-And, first, with respect to the width necessary in ,he construction of the new bridge. The opening of he'neer line of street called Victoria-street, which - • rorma a direct and convenient communication between Cheiva, the Borough, and the City,, the formation of the South Western Railway terminus in the' vicinity or the bridge; aryl the increase of the metroptilis on both sides 'or -the river, render it necessary` to afford greater faeiutif-d for. the tr affic, over the new West minster-bridge, the widch . of the present bridge, 42 feet, being found to- be totally insufficient. "' We'are of opinion, therefore, that 60 feet, including the footways, should be the minimum width to meet the requirements of the increasing traffice and the comfort and safety of the public. " The width or ihe other metropolitan bridges over the Thames is stated to be as follows, viz ;-- Feet. " London-bridge 54 Blaelifriars-ridge ... 42 Waterloo- bridge 43 Vauxhall-bridgo 36 "With respoot to the height of hnail way of the centre arch of the new bridge, we have considered the conve nience of the navigation, the proper inclination of the road for the purposes of traffic, and the effect which the structure might have on the architectural appearance of the New Palace. " In his evidence, given before the Committee of 1850, Mr. Barry stated certain conditions which he deemed indispensable if the bridge were to be retained in its present situation; these were That the roadway of t he bridge should be level from shore to shore; that the width of the roadway should not be less' than 100 feet; that the height of the roadway of the bridge above Tri nity standard should not exceed 20 feet.' complied with, would leave for teat e h et i hspurpos es n o d wf e t i r o e n e, if iron, an d o f on l y 12 f ee t 6 navigation a headway of only 16 f •inches if the arches were constructed of stone. Such a bridge as .Mr. Barry recommends would undoubtedly improve the architectual appearance of the New raise°, by relieving that building from the effects of considerationsthe we should agree with Mr. Barry that the proposed lowness of the bridge would be an advantage, and that a width . which would give it the chardcter of a terrace, or, as Mr, Barry says, in which a grand promenade; would be in itself an ornament to the metropolis, aud a convenience for the communica tion across the river. " A bridge of this limited height and of this ex tended width would, however, we believe, be a serious obstacle to the passage of vessels, while the increase of the metropolis to the westward renders it important that every encouragement should be given to the navigation of the river. The height of the centre arch of Westminster-bridge is 25 feet. It has been stated that the largest valise' navigating the Thames above London-bridge is of 300 tons, and also that a vessel •of that tonnage could pass under an arch of 25 feet 6 inches of Trinity datum, without any inconvenience, provided that the arch be of sufficient span. " We are informed that it would be an advantage to the coal trade and to consumers, if facilities were, af forded for the passage •of larger, vessels, which might then .possibly supersede the smaller craft now employed in the coal trade of the river. Regarding, 'therefore, the interests of the navigation, we. are .of opinion that the height of a headway should be limited only by the easy inclination required for the roadway over the bridge, and we recommend that the height of headway of the centre arch should not be less than 25 feet inches above Trinity datuM. " We subjoin the height of headway of the othir bridges across the Thames ' feet. inches. "London-bridge ..••....... 29 131ackfriare.bridge - ...... 27 Waterloo-bridge....... .. ... 27 . Vauxhall-bridge....... ..... 26 6 6: 6 0 " The width of the arch, - for the purposes of navigation, is as important as the headway. • " In an arch of a large span the extent of the headway is not confined to the exact centre of the arch, but extends over a wider space, and thereby facilitates the passage of the vessels. "The fewer the number of arches adopted, the less will be the resistance to - the "current of the stream, and, conse quently, there will be the less pressure against the piers of the bridge. The fewer the piers the less also will be the ob struction to the navigation. The number of piers in the present bridge contributes to the formation of eddies and, shoals in the river. ,We would, therefore, recommend that, in constructing the new bridge it should not consist of more . than five arches. - • " In our choice of materials we have been guided by - the following considerations: —Economy of time and of money in the completion Of the bridge, and convenience for the traffic over the bridge, as well as for the purposes of naviga tion. Under different circumstances we might h ave ferred a bridge of stone; but considering that such a br idge.r. would be attended with an increased outlay, and wonlact quire a third more time to construct, and furthero,ftn i ts quire feet adoption would necessitate an additional ris , e oel no hesi -6 inches for the roadway over the bridge , ! 3 r tation in recommending that the bridge w e fee l be an arch bei An iron ng iron structure resting on stone piers. ill be a less pressure so much lighter than one of stone, there w A greater span of arch from the superincumbent weight. Twenty months is can be obtained in iron tha n in atone. the comletion said to be the time that wo uld be required . for period for the erection of the iron bridge, and thr ee y ears the of a stone strncture. he expressed, we b "In accordance wit h the views whicher _ su - were unanimously mit the following resolutions agreed to : e should be used as I.' That the present bridg a tempo. rary bridge until a new bridge shall have been constructed. That a new bridge should be constructed adjoining, or 2.ng, bridge on r as possible, to the present the north side, or Its nea r that is, lower down the river. " 3. That the new lnidge should not be less than 60 feet in width, including the footways. "4. That it be coestrueted of iron, with stone pi ers . " 5. That it consist of no more than five arches. 6, That the height of headw ay of the cent re arc h a b ove Trinity d a t u m be not less than 25ft. 6in. "1. That it is desirable that no time should be lost in making preparation for the commencement of the work. We beg, -in conclusion, with reference to the 7th reso lution submitted by us, to state that the dilapidated state of the present bridge, the uncertain expense of maintaining it, even as a temporary structure, and the inconvenience of this bridge, both to the. land, and river tragic, render it highly desirable that. the permanent bridge should be commenced , ae4 - tiaifihed with as 4161147 •ble. and we have it in evidenca that, if the work were corn menced early in the ensuing year, the bridge might be open to 06 public in less than two.years from the period of its commencement. " The Committees of 1E46 and of 1850 both recommended that a Bill should be brought into Parliament for transfer ring the estates and property of the Bridge Commissioners to the Commissioners of her Majesty's Woods, &c., due con sideration being bad to the claims of the officers of the bridge estates, in the event of their services being discontinued. We concur in the views of. the Parliamentary Committees as expressed in these reports. " SEYMOUR. " LONSDALE. " SUDELEY. " R. GROSVENOR. " ROBERT HARRY INGLIS. 4 C. T. D'EYNCOURT. " J. HUMPHERY." PA RLIA AVIEN TA RY DIVISIONS (From the Votes'andTriceein g s of the House of Commons ) THURSDAY, APR H., 1. HARIVICEI BOROUGII. Motion made, and Question put, " Tnat -kayo be given to hrig in a 811 for appointing Commissioners to inquire into the existence of Bribery in the Borough of Ham ich.' The ifouse . divided : • • MINORITY—AYES, 95. Adair, Hugh E.. Greene. John - Ricardo, Osman Adair, R. shatta . Hall, Sir B. Romilly, Colonel Alcock, Thou's.% Hardeastle, J. A. Salwey, Colonel Anderson, Arthur ' Harris, Richard Seholerield, William Baines, M. T . Haste, Alexander Scohell, Captain Bouverie, 4. -P. ... Heryey, Lord A. Smith, Vernon Boyle, Colonel Heywood, James Smith, M. Tucker Bright, John Higgins, G. G. Staiitou, W 11. Brocklehurst, J. Ilindley Charles Strickland, Sir G. Brotherton, J. - Hobhoase, T. H. . Strutt, E. klunburY, E.. 11.. . Howard, C. W. 11. Stewart, Admiral Carter, J. B. Ilumphery, Ald. . 'Stuart, Lord D. Cavendish, C. C. llutt, William Talbot, C. It. Childers, J. W. Kershaw, James Tennent, R. J. Clay, Sir W. King, P. J. Thompson, Colonel Clifford, U. M. . Langston, J. 11. Thornely, Thornas Co. kbarn, Sir A. Martiu, J. ~ Townsheud, Captain Cowan, Charles Matheson, Colonel Trelawny, J. S. Davie, Sir li. Milligan, Robert Verney Sir 11. Dawes, Edwar Milner, W. M. ' , Wakley, Thomas D'Eyncourt, C. T. Moffatt, George Widinsley, Sir J. Duff, George S. .Moleswortit, Sir W. Wawn, J. T. Duff, James Morris, David ' Willcox, Brodie Duke, Sir J. Mowatt, Francis Williams, John Duncan, George Norreys, Lord - Williams, IV. Duncombe, T.. O'Flaherty, Anthony Willyams, H. Ellis, John Ogle, S. C. Williamson, Sir H. Enfield, Viscount Osborne, Ralph WilsOn; Matthew rwans, William recheLl, Sir G. Wyvill, Marmaduke Ewart, William Peto, Samuel M. . . Foley, J. H. . I'ilkingten, James TELLSRP Geach, Charles . Price, Sir It. . Evans, Sir De Lae,' Glyn, G.C. . Ricardo, John L. Clay, James MAJORITY-NOES, 137. Arland, Sir T. Dkye East, Sir J. B. . Maxwell, Hon. J. P. Adderley, C. B. ' Edwards, Henry Miles, William Archdall, Captain • Egerton, Sir P. Mitchell, T. A. Arkwright, George Estcourt, J. B. B. Morgan, 0. Begot, William Ferrer, James 3lullings, J. R. Baillie, H. J. Filmer, Sir E. Naas, Lord Baldwin, Barry Forester, G. C. Napier, Joseph Bankes, G. Freshfield, J. W. Newdegate, C. N. Baring, Thomas Fuller, A. E. Newport, Viscount Barrow, W. H. Gallwey, Sir W. P. Noel, Gerald J. Bennet, Philip Galway, Viscount Oltrien, Sir Lucius Bentinck, Lord H. Goulburn, Henry Ossulston, Lord Beresford, William Gore, W. 0. Packe, C. W. Blandford, Marquis Greene, Thomas Palmer, Robert Boldero, H. G. - Grogan, Edward Portal, Melville Bowles, Admiral Gwyn, Howel Reid, General Branaston, T. W. Hale, R. B. Renton, John C. Brernridge, Richard Raiford, Sir Henry Repton, G. W. Bridges, Sir B. Hallowell, E. G. Rushout, Captain Brooke, Sir A. B. Hamilton, G. A. St. George, Chris. Bruce, C. L. C. Hamilton, Lord C. Seyraer, H. K. Buck, Lewis W. Harris, Captain Smollett, A. Bliller, Sir J. Y. Heald, James Somerton, Viscount Burrell, Sir C. Ileneage, G. H. W. Sothe r o n , T. H. Cabbell, B. B. • Henley, J. W. Spooner, Richard Carew, W. P. Hildyard, B. C. Stafford, Augustus Chandos. Marquis Hill, Lqrd E. Sutton, J. H. Child, bngth. Hope, Sir J. Taylor, Colonel Christopher, R. A. Hope, H. T. Tennent, Sir J. Christy, Samuel Hotham, 'Lord Thesier, Sir F. Clerk Sir G. H ughes, W. B. Trevo g r, G. R. Clive, It H. ' Inglis. Si r R. H. Trollope, Sir J. Clive, H. B. . - Joillife. Sir W. G. Tyler, Sir G. Cebbold. J. C. Jones, Captain ' Tyrell, Sir J. Codrington,:Sir W. Knox, W. S. Vesey, Thomas Collins, Thomas Langton, W. H. Villiers Viscount Compton, H. C. Lennox, Lord A. . Walpole ' , Spencer Cotton, W. H. Lewisham, Viscount 'Whiteside James Cubitt, William Lindsay, Colonel Wigram, Loftus Davies, D. A. Lockhart, W. Willoughby, Sir H. Deedes, W. Long, W. Wodehouse, Edmund Dick,.Quintin Lkgon, General Wynn, H. ty. Dod, J. W. Manners, Lord C. Yorke, E. T. Duckworth, Sir J. Manners, Lord J. Dtmcombe, W. E. March, Earl of MLEILS. Dunne, Colonel Masterman, John Datcson, Thomas Du Pre, C. G. . Maunsell, T. P. Lennox, Lord H. G. MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS. ACTS AMENDMENT BILL. . (IN THE COMMITTEE.) Clause 1 (Proprietors of Newspapers not to be deemed Contractors by reason of Advertisements) :--Amendment proposed, in page 2, line 15, to add the words, " or in any Banking Company which may have had or may hereafter have deadngs or transactions with any such Council, Com missioners, or Trustees of such Borough:"—Question put, " That those words be there added." The Committee divided : MINORITY—AYES, 13. Anstey, ThOmar C. 'Lindley, C. Thompson, Colonel btarrow,- W.• H. Hobhouse, T. B. Bell, Jacob Mulliugs, J. R. mum. Carter, John B. Pilkington, James Headlam, T. B. Greene, John Scholefleld,.William Hutt, William HaUewell, E. G. Tennent, R. J. MAJORITY—NOES, 37. Arkwright, G. Gwyn, Vowel Sinollett, A. Baillie, H. J. Hamilton, G. A. Spooner, ittchard Baukes, G. Hamilton, Lord C. Stafford, Augustus Beresford, William Henley, J. W. Tennent, Sir J. Brotherton, Joseph Hill, Lord E. Thesiger, Sir F. Bruce, C. L. C. Jolliffe, Sir W. G. Trollupe, Sir J. Chandos, Marti. of Knox, W. S. Wyse, B. 11. IL H. Chichester, Lord J. Lennox, Lord II G. Walpole, S. 11 Christy, S. .Blahon, O'Gorman Willoughby, Sir H. Cotton, W. S. Naas, Lord Ducitworth, Sir J. Napier, Joseph TELLEII.3. Duane, Colonel Newport, Viscount Bateson, T. Edwards, Henry Packe, C. W. Bunbury. Edward Grogan, Edward St. George, Chris. THE c_ URItENCY. THE QUESTION "WHAT IS A POUND ?" ANSWERED. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. SlR,—The recent discoveries in California and Australia render it extremely probable that we shall have to suffer the evils of c deprt culled currency, if gold long continue to be the standard, of value. It is, therefore, advisable to consider whether or not some substitute cannot be found which will be more perfect as a standard. In the, first place, then, it may be rematked that there is no more absolute necessity for the standard of value to possess intriutic worth than for the standard of weight or measure; and in the next, that the experience of the last few years has shown that, however abundant may be the amount of money at the source of issue, the active circulation of the country cannot be materially increased beyond a certain amount, however low the rate of discount, or however strenuous the efforts to force it. Money, like other commodities, is governed by supply'and demand; and, like them, if supplied in too great a quantity, or if not required as the instrument of exchange, lowers in price, and becomes a drug in the bands of the owners or possessors. _ _ _ If gold, then, ought not to be the standard, what ought ? and what ought to be the mode of issue? .As regards the standard, instead of making the pound sterling to represent "a. certain amount of gold, of a certain fineness;" that is to say, instead of making it to represent the . exact RESULT of a certain qeantity of labour, I would make it the representative, or money value, or money expression of that certain quantity of labour itself, instead of the representative of the result of that labour; and thus avoid the necessity of selecting one description of commodity from the rent, fixing its price, and making it the exponent of value for all. To illustrate:—Let US suppose that the AVER/LOS value of adult male labohr throughout the kingdom is two shillings per day, twelv e h ours ' lab our to the day. The pound sterling would than be the representative' , or money expression, of the average value of ten dcz adult male labour; and consequently ten shillings wou l d, be the repretentraive, or money expression, of five dal labour; one shilling, of half a day; exPeu en ,„y, ot quarter of a day; -twopence, of an hour; :P en of bout, half an hour; and a halfpenny, of a quarter isotand,rd &c., &c.; arid, therefore, if this principle f °and sterling saying that the cinsotitY of B°l "the were adopted, instead of ._ oi , of a ontain represented " a certain P an t- the exact RESULT dueness," we should then say that flag;" and thus • average value of a certain the " pound," instead of represe: o , d then represent the a l e b v e e l left,i p li k e e e of a certain amount of labour, w o uld i exact amount of labour average exchangeable value of gold Wolf supply and demand. -, 5 0 w n could properthen itself, and, consequently. I would other commodities, to Peratiti;:en-1 obfankissuee;tablished; and, by the natural o be only bank of issue, and that Now, as respects 'the . "' notes,. of pro pose that there that this bank be t t h e i ssue only, it be a bank . u pwards should be whosef primly- - Is exchange for the gold coin and but one pound and ti „1,, hove stated—it first issues upon s issues to be the issued slap,in eculation and i n the baniss. The notes lion now .shoulddin thus issue- form the nucleus or body of the „,„fittion, 'or currency, to e a° re . issued ol i id ssue s s ecu a ri b t above only— at a fixed and uniform rate of interest, or discout; and r, for limited per i o d s solely. The Bank of Issue, howeve()tight to'have - nothing et all to do with .‘banking,''• in the general acceptation of the term. All banking Operations, 'with the exception of issuing, ought to be left as at present, viz., to individual compe tition and exertion. We should thus have a perfectly safe and legitimate system of currency—fixed and steady in its nature—and peculiarly adapted to all the varied requirements of trade and commerce. No one commo dity would then have a preference over another, in re ferenee to fixing its price or making it the exponent of the rest; but all would be placed exactly alike, and upon precisely the Same footing. Part of the proceeds of the gold thus liberated might be applied in Pe) i!'g off the debt owing to the Bank of Epp 1 old, and the remainder t , ..) national purposes. The yearly profits of the National Bank of Issue might atso be appropriated to diminishing. the national burthens. And lastly, there would be no less from wear and tear of gold, in euiatige or circulation—nor any disturbance of existing money contracts and cege , j4tonents by thn change in the standard, whilst the discoveries of Cali fornia and Australia might then go on ad infinitum with out in the least etLcting the value, steadiness, or sta bility of our currency.—l ant, Sir, &c.,_ 1 _ _____ .C. E. ROCII. * This, I believe,,is.soznewhere neer the truth; but the principle above laid .flowm would not be at all legs effective were the exact fact only assumed. Nur do I see why the same, or a similar principle, might not be adopted by other nations, and thus a sort of zniversal standard be established. MIIICHIEY BREWING.—,Sir James Grabaco the expectant Pretnier, and his Secretary-at• War, Dir. &Wen, were observed last night, in the H o uss of Commons. in close and earnegt coaference for some cousiderablO a: l m iieraid _ .. . . . , • . . ..... -_ . -- LITERATURE. HISTORY OF PHYSICAL ASTRONOMY. By Robert Grant. F.R.A.S. Baldwin. A. comet - el:eh:Jive work like the present, embracing 1 " r , :bge comp!efe narraeve of the most su bli me o f all rho - • .cieeces, from the moment of its rise to the period of its latest &volopment, has long been desired by the more earnest atnee g the students of Physical Astronomy. It must be manifest that the realization of some such enterprise was absolutely requisite before there could be any possibility of systematising in the minds of more than a sele ct few the whole of those apparently oomph catul, but, in reality, most simple and symmetrical laws which theoretical philosophe, aided by the revelations of the telescopy, hail revealed their beauty and their grandeur as regulating the movements of the celestial bodies, end elucidating the phenomena of their orgeni zation. Without some assistance like that we have indicated. the generality of inquirers, unless they contented" to dedicate their intellects almost exclusively to the consideration of astronomy, were doomed etevieusly eteei e h to the acquisition of krr;wl,cl4e either - y-rx denfused or very superficiaL 'Thank:; to the laborious compiler of the volume her e sahrthued to our examination, the intelligent public will at length he eie:b!ed to appreciate the mojesty of the 4cl,.neti unfolding the mechanism of the heavens, and to comprehend without any remarkable exertion in the way of research the consecutive stages of its develop ment—from the earliest agree extending back even to the limits of the bielical records. down to the most recent discoveries made in the 'middle of this nineteenth century. The volume before us comprehends, indeed, according to the suegtetive intimation of the very title-page, a de deteded description of the esiablishment by Sir Isaac eeron of the:thc , ory of, graviiatiou, as well ea of its illus tration by saver al uuce..di94 philosophers, togeeber with an aecautit of the progress made in the researches of man kind atewite all the other deparimeets of the study of celestial physics. So mieute is the exposition of the theory of gravieltiou by Mr, Grant in the ve r y outset of hiss highly meriteririus en erprise, that he has (not by any means inju - dielously) • xteoded it froth 'the commence ment of the first ehar,-r to the close •of the thirteenth. Ainorz the preieuteily inter, sting subjects, treared of in hs perm:lilac nivisiint of his Ilistrry of"the Celestial Illeetistibui. Air. Grant enumerates prominently and ex,lains with considerable lucidity—tits law of the areas, the motion of a body In an elliptic cubit, its motion in an orbit of variably curvature, the attraction of • spherical mass of parttoles, the general effects of pertur bation, the computation of the moon's int-qualities, the aid afforded by the infinitesimal calculus, the attraction of spheroids, the precession of the Equinoxes—and all the other marvellous and suggestive themes pointed oat to the scrutiny of man by the immortal Principia." It were difficult to decide upon this matter whether our author has suc ceeded best in his exquisite account of Newton's inductive ascent to the principle of gravitation, or in his masterly record of the development of its almost innumerable consequences. Having specified the reasons impeding the early acceptance of the Newtonian theory, be goes on to show the precise nature of its reception, first in England and subsequently on the continent, enumera ting in addition to the foregoing facts those researches in analysis and mechanics which subsequently exercised such a remarkable influence on'tphysioal astronomy. Thereupon are particularized the 'problem of three bo dies, the motion of the lunar apogee, the secular varia tions of the planets, the invariability of their mean distances, the oscillations of their eccen tricities and inclinations, and the sublime de monstration of the stability of the whole planetary system—a demonstration begun by the hypo thesis of Lagrange, but triumphantly completed and es tablished by the elegant and ingenious theorem of Ls place. By such advances as these does the compiler of the present history adventure upon the revelation of the loftier and abstruser mysteries of physical astronomy. Setting out with the divine researches of Newton he estimates the extent to which the world of science is indebted to the prior, the contemporaneous, or subse quent labours of Huygens, Leibnitz, Clairsut, Mayer, Euler, Lagrange, Laplace, Lambert, Halley, Danthorne, Maclaurin, D'Ale m b er t, L e g e ndr e , Bradley, Galileo, Heveliu3, Cassini, Hodierna, Borelli, Walmaley, Bailly, Delambre, liOrfel, Poisson, Borchardt, Binet, Damoisesu, Airy, Carlini, Lubbock, Hansen, Herschel, Bouvard, Besse!, and a multiplicity of others, going as far back as Tycho Brabe and Kepler, and coming as far forwards as Adams and Leverrier, beginning with the Chaldeans and ending with the Astronomer Royal. A variety of enthralling problems, as might be felt certain, before •. turning over a single page of the volume are considered in the course of its investigations, and that with s caution which inspires confidence, and a clearness -that commands attention. Not thR, least interesting iniong these curious topics is the one having reference' to the solution of the great problem of the longitude. Fasci nating as all these very accurate accounts necessarily must be, furbishing us with the actual results of the re searches, many by various geometers, perhaps amonfre tne most fascinating wilt be found that chapter in which Mr. Grant describes the manner in which the sagacity . ot Laplace led to the detection of tlie.phy'sical cause of the gradual acceleration perceiv6d in the moCii i i ,ngulsr velcaity round the earth—an accelera tion first hinted at by the comparison of -the records of certain eclipses seen at Babylon nearly 700 B. c , with others, observed about the tenth . century by the Arabian astronomers. Especial mention is made by the author of the present history of the• iuminou. pen crs and the premature death of liorrocks, woo is gracefully spoken ot by him as the morning star,,, of chat gikkxy of men of gcidus who continued for nearly_ a century to adorn the anr.als ot these islands by their contribe.ion to the scisrlec., -both physical and maths- navica!—.,ach intn a 3 01.3eoigoe, firouneker. Barrow, Wallis, Wren. Gregory, Hooke, Taylor,Bradloy, Simp- „ - - son, Maclaurin; but above all and beyond all, Ivan° Now The narrative giie3, in the twentiethehapter of the volume, the earliest inti.oation ma& of the knowledge of ihe. principle of the telescope, as revealed in Roger 13 C 123 Op US . 2 / 1 4 11 S, in Digges' Pantometria, in' Edition cf .13' nelid in Ports's Magia Nata• ratil, and in the posthumous work De Radii* Visas of Antonio de Dominic. Thi4 portion of the work de,icribes the improvements made in the most wonderful ot optical instruments, from tife first rude tube in the hands of Galileo to the colossal reflective telescope of Lord R see, with a focal ngth cf 54 feet and a six• feet aperture. Dae reference is made before the close of this extraordinary production, of the solution ot the problem of the nebelw, end of all the more remarkable facts connected with the discovery of the planet Neptune, by M. LEverrier. Throughout the whole of his under taking—an undertaking, the .bewildering difficulties of which might have deterred any man of ordiefiry ener gies from attempting its realit G rant', bas re vealed a mruitery of his subject, eminently honourable to him as an astronomer, and c alculated very materially to a dvance the id:in:nation of the intelllPM in tha t sublime department of philosophy. Hereby be 13118 at once cou., trived to forward the interes ts of popula r education by contributing to the science of the celestial mechanism the n ational literatur e . a work cap Ale of adorning regularnr3ianidion Tuesdsv' cruise h ttlevees,ohneCta nehcenntn: eewtldhlne6oiccicekrisiatalorletp:ai 'splmoo.frstitsohmoin yesterday hthanni INTELLIGENCE. g Fo p .th u: c.hre u , are p nis Bak e , sb,stntojetlauh.‘ above jaeoo A drfrrn : ateth m nie g !..e, d i e . w hitehall, that he will see flag —__ Y 'fr a Om half-past twelve to two o'clock w l i e ll v% days. T uk berhTel has desired a notice to be The' D N A e , N , r e A lco lA rthu officersawoitwh the First Lord at his of loner interviews of !him WorsfOld-(1841) has been appointed the T s e pincerL 0 ) as commander of Portsmouth ordinary, scrubbed tbho:o : oorinas i n down. uarn vice umbras, who has resigned on account of ill-health. v' vixen steam-sloop, Commander Barnard, was taken into morning to have her toand vessels detained bily°°tlhoe Commander tl . Hand, " retu m :n ew ed ard tc: PoiersmouTli, THURSDAY. n eits T t u e e r s ly da w y in a d lernoon from a _Tebeo steam-vessel,rAeniteevleopteheho Li , utenan e le ofemamler Y oung , hasb ee n gotoff the Ledge of Berulnidge. She had the assistance of the large boats of hole of the squadron Spithead,well th at as as e Sprightly steam-vessel, Mr. George Allen Acting-Muter commanding, and the Drake lighter. The Antelope was lightened 01 ad her dead weight—a gun, anchors, and such like, but which the Sprightly afterwards recovered. The lat ter vessel also lightened her of her coals, &c. She went ashore at a quarter past 6 o'clock yesterday morning. All hands set to work to try their utmost to get her off, which appearing to fail, assistance was sent for. The Sprightly lightened her about 18 inches. She found her on the inner part of Bembridge-ledge, with her head lying west, with not above 15 inches of water under her fore foot. Mr. Davy, Assistant-Master Attendant of this dockyard, and Mr. Luke, foreman of shipwrights, with a party of the latter corps, went out to render assistance, and the boat of the latter gentleman, with five men in her, was swamped in the service, but we are hippy to add no lives were lost. About 25 minutes p est 6 o'clock last evening the Antelope floated off the ledge, and came into this harbour without assistance, under steam. She is reported not bilged or hurt. The Sprightly came into harbour after her, at about half-past 10 o'clock last night, with the gun the Antelope threw overboard, the anchors, chain cable, and heavy gear. The latter has been docked to-day, and found to have sustained no injury. Simoom iron screw-frigate, Captain Bingcome. haying bad her engines pnt to rights by taking something from the air-pump of the Sanspareil, she took on board supernume raries for the eastward on Wednesday afternoon, and then got up her steam and went outside the Breakwater. where she steamed about some little time to prove the new work in her engine; meanwhile the Avon tender, which took the supernumeraries to the Simoom , took the Vulcan iron-screw frigate, Master-Commander Penn, in tow, and at 5 r.at., was going out to the west end of the Breakwater, where she will give her in charge to the Simoom to assist her to Portsmouth. The Pluto steam-vessel, Lieutenant-Commander West, hall been paid advance to-day, and went out to Spithead. . . _, The Victory, 104, Captain G. B. Martin, C. 8., flag 0 1. 11 ,T; miral Sir Thomas Brigge, G.C.M.G , Commander - in -um. rder that has been transferred to the west shore to-day, in o her moorings may be examined. Rodney, g 2 At Spithead—The .P r i nce Regen t , _ 90, _ raaani, 16, and Superb, 80, Rogue, :7;6, Retribution, ,Si Pinto, 4. • -General Simpson, ap. PoIiTS.IIOI:TH GA Rrasorr. —Mg r r r i „, o as Lieut.-Governer pointul to the command of this g er af in . _oiler.' of the South .if Portsmouth and Command . day, and relieved Lie Western District, arrived here thi s been d • the ". "f , w h o has tang duty o. Gcneral D'Aguilar, Cdr., the poet as Acting- Lieutenan t-Governorl since the departure nce. of Lord Frederic k Fite :I:P r OINTHENTS. cHERRNF>, —, Arnie l.—Captain G. R. M un d y to the t.) London, 00. Captain • the Hon. Montague Stopford to the Waterloo,'l2o i -Adroir as Flag-Captain to Vice _ t e lion. Josceline Percy, Comma 1 in der--Chef at the Nore al . h Commander J. B. Marsh (1844), late o f th e H ero i ne , t o f theleraterloo, 120, for general service. W Majesty's ship London, 90, Captain the Hon. Monta gue Stopford, sent down her ) • ury topgallant masts yesterdaY, preparatory to their being replaced by her sea-going one& Gr. R. Mundy, Esq at present Fla C t • of the Waterloo , succeeds Captain the Hon. Monta g ue ap am ue Stopford to-day in the command of the London . The ward- too 1 . 11 officers of her Majesty's ship Water loo 120 gave 1 ' ... -a f •AIOWall dialler yesterday on Word alit AliP;