The Sun. — London, England, 1852-05-26 00:00:00

MPERI. AMEN T. HOUSE OF LORDS, May 25. The LORD CIIANtRLTM took his seat on the Woo, sack at Five o'clock. THE MILITIA BILL. The Marquis of BREADALBANE asked the Noble Bari at the head of the Government whether it was his intention to proceed with the Militia Bill in this House without laying before their Lordships the opinions of the professional aufhoritfes on the subject. He con sidered it to Des subject on which the Roust) could not legitidte without having before it the opinions of the military and naval authorities. The Earl of DERBY said it was undoubtedly the in tention of her Majesty's Government to proceed with the Bill without taking any further steps to inquire into the present state of Inc defences of the i country, con sidering that they had already sufficient information on the subject. Lord BEAUMONT presented a petition from nume rous lor.is .of manors against" the Copyhold Enfran chisement Bill, and praying to be heard by counsel at the bar against it. On the motion of Lord MINTO the Darghs (Scot land) Bill passed through Committee after a short dis cussion. ENFRAITCHISEMIINT OF COPYHOLDS BILL. Lori CRANWORIB, in moving tne second reading of this Bill, observed that it would be as useless as ab surd in him to preface the few observations which ho was about to make by anything like a discussion as to the origin of copyhold tenure. It was a question which had puzzled antiquaries, and might well be left to their research while their Lordships applied themselves to the practical grievances to be remedied. He should, there fore, very briefly call the attention of the House to the evils of the law relating to copyholds, endeavour to point out what from time to time had been done with the view of palliating those evils, and then direct atten tion to the Bill, which had received, he believed, the very general sanction of the other Howe of Parliament. The subject of the grievances arising oat of copyhold tenure was not of recent date. The attention of the Real Property Commission, which had been issued under the great seal in the latter part of the reign of George IV., b a d been directed to it, a n d t o a very . elaborate report—the third which they had made, dated 183 9 —they had carefully enumerated the evils existing in this part of our judicial system The ge neral outline of these evils must be familiar to all their Lordships, but it might not be without use that he , should shortly recapitulate some of the most promi cepyholds ware but the last f ragment ex i sting of l a ws of tenure that once prevailed universally n th (t e nt. throughout; this country. There were tenures of chi valry under which great lerds held great estates, there was the tenure of free and common - sec, commonly c alled freehold tenure, end there was the copyhold tenure. One of the very first acts of the Parliament after the restoration of King Charles If. was by legis latioa formslly to abolish th a t w hi c h h a d p ract i cal l y, during the Commonwealth, been abolished already, namely, the great tenares of chivalry, and to reduce everything into what he would call oar freehold, leaving our copyhold untouched. It was a veny old obtervation . made by a reey accurate writer, and repeated in his amusing "Life of Lord Chancellor Guildford," that it teat somewhat unequal, when the great men abolished the tenure that pressed upon themselves, and substituted for it an excise upon the liquors which they consumed, that they left the minor tenure of the poor people un s touched, and open to the same abuses' that existed pre viously. The consequences of this tenure were, prima rily the payments of finee, rents, reliefs, and so forth, and a number of services and dues that were payable from the tenants from time to time, calculated to inflict upon them a serious practical grievance. In the first place, there was that streagest of all anomalies which went by the name of " heriot," which was a custom pre railing in very many manors, and in some places not eon fined to copyhold tenures, that on the death of a pera cn holdh b ee land of that description the lord might seize the best chattel he possessed. In some manors the best live chattel only C9Ui.l be seized, and in some it must be the best chattel upen tho copyhold, but in others there was no such restriction,—the iordanight seize anything, end anywhere. Now, if this were stated es being the law prevailing in Ilaclegaecar, would they believe that such a thing °maid possioar exist where law prevailed at all? —(Hear, hear.) He did not mean that this was praCti cally a vary great grievance, because human nature was such that the right was usually waved. Bat instances had occurred in quite modern times when that law had been enforced to as to become a very grievous practical hardship. He remembered that the famous racehorse Smoleneko, worth some 2,0001. or 3,0001 had been eeized upon the death of the then owper, ,Sir C. Banbury. A somewhat similar circumstance, he believed, had occurred on the death oi dm G. Heathcote. About 30 years ago, when the late Lord Abinger was cu the circuit, it was falsely rumoured that he had died, and the first intima tion which Airs. Scarlett received of the melancholy event was from the agent of the lord of tho manor, who wbo went to seize three of Lord Abinger's horses. The Pitt diamond wes at one time pledged to a pawnbroker who had a small copy bold tenement in Westmoreland liable to heriot, and upon his death the owner of the cupybold manor either did seize, or intimated to the par ties that ho had a right to SSiZ), and he (Lord Oran worth) believed that he had, that diamond. Another curious illustration of the absurdity of this law was ex hibited by what happened to the late Sir R. Peel. The Right Hen. Gentleman was the capyhold, tenant of a manor to which heriot attached, and he was in the great est apprehension that the celebrated " Chapeau de raille" might be seized in satisfaction. To avoid this Sir R. Peel became the purchaser of the manor. WAS nor this stacient to make one startle at the absurdity of the law'r Ile confessed, however, that the greatest practical grievances did not flew from this source, but from some thing of a mach more ordinary and commonplace cha racter. Tee ordinary copyhold tenure required that upon every death and every alienadon tile tenant should pay to the iord a floe. In somecissea it was what was sake) "arbitrary," which practically meant either a year-and.-half or two years' improved value. In other eases it was merely a nominal fine, tie., or 103., or something of no reel importance. About two.thirus of the manors in Ecglanci were under a flea arbitrary, What was the conseq/cree of that? Let their Lord ships reason upon it a priori. If he laid out money in improving his land, should he derive the benefit of all he so laid oat? Certainly not; fur at his death his heir would have to pay to the lord two yeare' improved va lue. Mr. Blamixe, a gentleman eminent in all agricul tural matters, who had peen many years at the' head of the - Tithe Oammission, and who wad also a, Drainage Commissioner, and- was therefore well competent to speak upon this subject, had been examined before the Real Property Commission, and he then stared that the Drainage Commissioners never had an application to drain copyhold Lands; parsons would DC?, do it. The' very name of it was repulsive to them. Every one who wished to drain wished to drain something of which ho would have the entire and complete control.—e(Hear, bear.) Air. Blamire's expoesience was that the profit derived from laying out money upon drainage was from 12 to 20 per cent.; the tenant, then—the country at large,—was thus deprived of en immense annual ed vantage by the operation of this tenure. And the " 11 was not limited to the non-drainage of copy= hold lands merely, for these lands being so disperised " cf tikes , were, forming as they did in so vast a number wereea parcels of estates of which 'the other portions amen" , r '''hold, the practical result was that the tenant " 12 8 Such estates, rather than drain the copyhold portion, o bi t& used from draining at alle-e-(Fear, hear.) Another g ee peded by te.,:at improvement of lands was largely im peded of this tenure—building. By the general law hold, the copyhold tenant was not even at liberty t ° o l)s still less, if possible, to pull down buildings on build, hind, and the effect of this pm-W -hitton was as ena e ip mischievous as the regulation with I ; eie Xtr.hold land was thus very much coricebuilehupon, i r n ege th r e d h t a o it ra o i f n n a o g s e' to the infinite de triment of all parties Aa in illustration, he near the Crystal Palace, b m e i i g n h g t c m o en pp t h io o n ld t , h h a a t d so r m em e a rann d • thea after year produc tive of only 30/. per annum, while land all about it, being freehold, was covered with houses at exceedingly remunerative rents. At length, 1 ,, , twcen the landlord and the tenant, an arrangement be t franchised; it was immediately sold for 13150 land wasen chase, and was now, like the contiguous . au y . ears' ur with houses at corresponding roe Those covered . enese were among the leading evils of ewe _agstem . end there were innumerable others; but, if 7 th— w were none besides the mystery and tin ere tainty attending the transfer of lands, ea ,: siene t ce s re these complicated varieties of tenure, there Woul l 10 _3" quite sufficient reason for correcting the- evileeem e v r e hear.) die was not one of those who were so atilt as to imagin e th a t th e t ra nsfer of land might be made nine al SiMPIO a matt er as the transfer of stoc k, but • tee e e , was no question that lie transfer might bo infinitely simplified, and be was very anxious that Parliament should net delay to take every practicable step in that direction.--(ltt eea hear.) The s pecial customs which (milted in so great a number of copyhold estates were in themselves a most serious impediment W this very desirable object..(Hear hear.) Nobody knew but that at the very moment, after infinite trouble and expanse, he was on the point of completing the purchase of an ealla t te supposed to be or di nary copyhold, some special custom might start up, wholly altering the case so far as he was concerned. For example, he knew of one case in which a gentleman, having all but completed the purchase of an estate, which ha had been assured, and which all the previous evidence went to show, was under ordinary copyhold tenure, was informed at the last moment that the tenure was borough English—that was to say, went to the younger and not to the elder son — and, in consequence, all tho trouble and all the expense that had been so far incurred were thrown away. An other vexation of the system was the requirement imposed upon the tenant of keeping the boundaries distinct between his intermixed copyhold and free hold lands—a requirement very difficult to be observed, but which still lett an opening for considerable vexation. One evil which had formerly existed with reference to sopyhold lands,to the difference required be observed in tee' • - .amentary dispositions as between them tr and ' ee holds, wed be en obviated by the Wills Act. In 1838 t h e subjeet o f . Committee o p t it l iold tenures was referred to a Select Sir Robert Peel, House of Commons, presided over by Committee, the 'Aatletdoita pursuenoe of the report of that faciles for the vainut :B4l was passed, which provided and for the voluntary ry enfranchisement of copyholds, servibes. There had, ielosmweravutation of heriot and other which the latter deseriptionerje been only two cases in 400 in which the former, h ad tak c e ausraufation, and only all rather desirous of waitin g tc, place, tenants being would do in the way of cemplas er what Parliam en t And, in "to fact, there had been no all enfranchisement. (pent session in which some portion of the time of P arliament bed not been occupied with the discems!on of me urea fntroduced for that purpose, all of them by individual Members of radial:tient; with the ;exception of that brought; -for- THE ward by Lord Cottenham, as Chancellor, which pro. metaled no further than to Committee. Last year two measures were introduced into the other House on the subject, and it was the amalgamation of these two mea sures . which formed the basis of the. Bill now before their Lcrdships. This measure was not so complete as he could have wished it, but he was ansioua to make as onward a step . as possible. The object of the Bill was to enable lords to compel tenants to enfranchise, and tenants to compel lords, with certain modifications; and he considered that the manner in which this enabling was effected would not operate with hardship upon either lord or tenant. The LORD CHANCELLOR said it was scarcely pos sible to overrate the inconveniences resulting from the copyhold system, and it was certainly expedient to re medy these evils so far as this could be done without trenching too much on the rights of property. His Noble and Learned Friend was quite justified in the ob jections he had advanced against heriots. He himself (the Lord Chancellor) was so impressed with them that upon purchasing a copyhold estate, in order to prevent his best horse or other favourable chattel from being, after his death, taken from his repr esen t at i ve b y the lord, he had token the estate in the name of a trustee. —(Great lauehter.) As to the impediment thrown b y the copyhold system in the way of building, it wa g, no Luht, in very many cases a great evil, but there were instances, such as the precise case given in illustration by his Noble and Learned Friend, where it operated advantageously for the public in preventing the aggregation of houses in otherwise overbuilt locali ties. He agreed that it was most desirable to assist in carrying into exeentien any measure that would lead to enfranclaieement with all duo speed, and without bearing hardy ; - upon the rights of the parties interested; but, as to the gen era l i nconven i ence of this tenure, he denied generally sp ea ki ng, that there was that complication in copyhold titles that rendered it necessary upon that ground to pass this Bill. He asserted that copyhold titles were more simple than freehold titles and less open to objection; and, as regarded smaller tenements, that title was preferred, and well it might be; for it had the benefit of a general register, free from those incon veniences that would attach to a register: of lands of other tenure, inasmuch as it was local, accessible, and simple, and never could be overloaded with a great quantity of matter. It was, moreover, the simplest of ell tenures and for small thee a tenant might transf e r his copyhold tenement. His Noble Friend said there must, be two deeds, but that was not necessary— one only was required. There were two documents, no doubt; but that was no objection, for the party did not pay more than he would have to pay if the pro perty were freehold. As regarded heriota and arbi teary fines, he thought they could not too much facilitate the abolition , of the, one, and the reduction to a fair standard of the other; and any measure that would carry into - effect more beneficially the law as it a pre sent stood would meet with his strongest support. He would rather that any hardens which attached to any property ehmild attach in the tenant's lifetime, so that it might despised to bia children free from them. Bat, as regarded the inede pointed out by. this Bill for enfran cheseraentehe dish not hesitate to say that in many cases the expense altogether would be more than the value of the property enftanehieed. The Bill, moreover, meted the landlord and tenant, in a state of opposition. The lord might compel the tenant to accept enfranchisement; the tenant might compel the lord to grant it; anti the consequence • would be, that each would be watching for the peeper moment to take advert* . of the other; At the present time enfranchisement was going on toore rapidly than many of their Lordships would suppose. In bad times erfrae chisemut almost ceased; in good times it went on rapidly. - Pam eerneasure of this sort, however, the evils he bad just mentioned were inseparable, but they would not attach to a general enactment which would compel enfranchisement ; and certainly, if he had to choose between the two, he should choose the ,measure that was altogether cheepuleory. Again; at present the Lord had the right of property in mines under a copy hold, but he could not dig the land to get at those mines. Now, this Bill provided th a t th e Lordi should retain all the mines to Which he was entitled; but it did not do what ought to be clone, namely, while it transferred the lands freehold to the copyholder, provide for the lord being able to break the soil and to get at the mines. Ito did not. however, oppose the Bill, but he rose to state what difficulties occurred to him upon the subject. It ought not to pass without fall consideration—(hear, hear)—and he should propose that it should be referrea to a Select Committee, as fie was confident that it ought to be considered clause by clause with great deliberatien, in order that they might know en what they were legis Tithe he would venture to say, that having read this Bill, he should be wholly incapable of saying at teat moment that the Bill as at present framed could safely pass. The greet object was to do justice to ail pantie % He did not. make this suggestion with any view to this Bill not being passed this session. But, even if that, were the result,-if the time occupied iu its being deli berately considered should prevent it, he should think that that was in no respect to he compared with hasty legislation breaking in upon the rights of property. Lord CAMPBELL had anticipated that before this session closed this Bill would have become the law of the land; but the speech of his Noble and Learned Friend on the• woolsack was fatal to the measure. It was echoed by the Lord Privy Seal, and he was afraid it was inwardly approved of by the rest of her Majesty's Ministers. A Noble Lord had withdrawn a motion of which ho had given notice that this Bill should be re ferred to a Select Committee, and he (Lord Campbell) therefore was not only grieved, but surprised, at the course taken by his Noble and Learned Friend, espe cially es in the other Home of Parliament this Bill had had the support of the Government; and the organ of the Government had undertaken that the support of the Goverumerit should be given to the measure as it now stood. If the Bill would produce evil to copy holders, then the proper course for his Noble and Learned Friend to hare taken was to move that it is e read a second. time that day three months; and he thought his Nobl© and Learned Friend would have done better if he had taken that course than by not objecting to the second reading, but recommendieg that the Bill should be referred to a Select Committee. H e h a d thought that this Bill would have been one of tho me e t suree of referm that were to have reflected credit on the present Government. tie bed most sincerely hop e d i t would have been ohe of the topics on which they might have gen e to th e country to shoe how beneficent their adMiLtiatia4i3a WB3 by its leg el iaucece. Their Lord. ships must recollect that in each manor there was a par ticular code oedawa, by which the copyholders of su c h manor were governed us to their tenancies. In some the custom was that the eldest son should succeed to the retina l in others the custom was that of gavelkind, in which all the sons succeeded equally; and in some the castom of borough English prevailed, by which the youngest son succeeded, to the exclusion of the eldest. The Noble and Learned Lord on the woolsack bad pointed out the very great advantage to the copy. holder fro m hi e being" reaistered and from the registra e tioh being s i m pl e; but ho (Lord Campbell) trusted that before whether year passed the Government would esta blish another refor m , b y establishing blish a no th er claim to the gratitude of the country for a general registration of cede. A ccor di ng to the principles of the Noble and hearted Lord for o was the idle woolsack, suppose this tenure th ati t ryasryas would b to b be perpetuated, abolished before many generations t :r H. many centuries merely by voluntary oufranchise anti should Noble d giving v o i u n g g h , a go :far n Partthev once to s e e n i f t ra in ne a hi s e h e a a p l e l copyholds. He (Lord Campbell) should be also g 1 d to such measure, If it were possible, bug he foresaw b ar have ships and inconveniences arising therefrom, yilh ma d d e . him recoil from it: With respect to th e p resent Bill, how ever, though it might produce in a few iestances a little hardship, is would on the other hand afford very great relief, and in his belief it would prove most beneficiel both to the lord and to the tenant. The Bill had only a compuleozy operation in the two cases of descent arid alienation, and in consequence of that provision it was his opinion that the measure would not only effect no evil, but produce much benefit. If afterwards it should be found drat there existed remnants of copyhold which it would be disadvantageous to maintain, a general sweeping measure of a compulsory nature might then be introduced to deal with them. At present he was not prepared for a measure so stringent, and he should give to the second reading of the Bill now before the House his most cordial support. - The Duke of. .CLEVELAND confessed that his opinion had always been that some such measure as the present was absolutely necessary. The old feudal system connected with the copyhold tenure ought for various reasons to be got rid of, as it tended to a great number of endless disputes, heartburnings, and. bickerings.. The different customs in different manors constituted a great evil, and, with respect to minerals, in two• counties in which he had copyhold Property—Durham and Staffbrd—the customs differed mterially. Another s er i ous ev il ar i s i ng out of the copy d tenure was that it prevented the making of improve ments• He believed that without some compulsory Powhit wotdd •be the en f r __ . impoaatble to carry out a measure for Tree etedensement of copyholds. po—aireeinhitiLTDlONT said he could not oppose the pro because he Vending. the Bill. to a Committee up stairs, sion of a gist it was in a state requiring the revi vernment Committee, Ornmittee, but he trusted that the Go the sine e r e etitemthh t.nilY nominate such: a .Committee with such a form al —l'. _ of endeavouring to pat the Bill is sent sess i on., . d i ng ,,d let enable it to be passed in the pre ,' The Duke of itee t a6 r, a • many griCT3l3C9B+ is, tt 9 EUCH admitted that the re were big over the present depyhold tenure, but in look visions- the smaller eedp s "e he n A thought that under its pro-. hardship than the l or Til er was more likely to suffer the Bill was to refer it torti s t) t otlly way of dealing with e , eet Committee though for one would not consent if) he the pnrpose of defeating tit:" a reference merely for thought that Bills tending tom lim e asure. He certainly the law of p r operty ought net t° be alterations in - to Members of Parliament but-. g rou t f iry rive - the Executive Government. After a few.worris from Lord pow 's, Lord CBANWORTII expressed that sending the Bill to a Select Committeepnsione meant that it should not become law thi s tie zaeti i c t al b ly thought the result would be otherwise he should rejoice at the Bill going before Committee, tee his should becom e 1 ardent wish was that the measure law in the most perfect state possible.—(Hear, hear.) Tho Bill was then read a second time, The LORD CHANCELLOR moved that the Bill be sent to a Select Committee —the Committee to be n amed on Thursday next. As his Noble and Learned Friend had expressed some alarm lest the'effect of sendi ng the measure to a Select Committee would be to Prevent its passing during the present ecseion, he hoped he week] give him credit for stating that lie had no such object —(Hear, hear)—and on tho part of her Majesty' s Government. he-might state that they had no such ob ject, hut that they would'go into the Committee with the determination to give the measure their best attention, and to render their honest assistance in carrying it into effect.—(Hear, hear.) Lord CAMPBELL was, generally speaking, favour able to Bills of this n a t ure being sent to a Select Com mittee; but, under all the circumstances of the case, to send the present measure to a Committee would, he feared, prove a delusion. The state of the session, and various other considerations, induced him to believe that the effect wculi be to give the measure its quietus. The Bill was then ordered to be referred to a Select Committee. SCHOOL SITES ACTS EXTENSION BILL. SUN, WEDNESDAY. EVENING, AY 26 1852. LONDON, On the motion of the Bishop of OXFolo,this Bill was read a second time pro forma, on the under standing that the principle shoald be discussed at a fu ture stage. The Property of Lunatics Bill, the Stamp Duties (Ireland) Bill, tho Apprehension of Deserterd from Foreign Ships Bill, and the Turnpike Roads (Ireland) Bill, were respectively read a second time. The Masters in Chancery Abolition Bill, the Im provement of the Jurisdiction in Equity Bill, and the Property-tax Continuance Bill went through Committee. Their L2rdships adjourned at Half-past Eight o'clo3k. under that denomination that it had come under the inquiry of the Commissioners in 1824; and as it was still, he thought, an educational establish ment, it was still liable to an inquiry. Now that the annual grant no longer existed thus power of inquiry could no longer be exercised, and there was therefore need of a special inquiry. The power of visi tation was of no use to obtain the truth on the subject of education at Maynooth, and nothing bat a Committee could satisfactorily investigate these important matters. 11 the Roman Catholics of Ireland bad followed the advice of their best friends—if the ' Roman Catholic priesthood had refrained from mingling in politics and public affairs, the cry for the inquiry would never have been heard, and no dissatisfaction have been raised at the nature of the doctrines taught there. It was the sense of the want of success of the policy of 1845 that had been the cause of the feelings against Maynooth. No man would be more rejoiced than himself if the inquiry showed that the object of the trusts had been carried out faithfully and sin cerely ; but he contended that against the teaching of ultramontane doctrines it behoved every man, be his creed what it might, to lift up his voice, being, as they were, doctrines which trampled upon the laws of the country, and sought to dispense with the sovereignty of the Queen. The patrons of Maynooth College how ever, were the bishops of the Roman Catholic Church in Ireland, and these bishops had openly professed their ad herence to ultramontanerloctrines.—(Cries of" No, no.") He repeated that the conduct of the heads of Mayeouth since 1845 demanded that this inquiry should be had. Those heads had declared theinselves io favour of ultra montane principles, and in coatinaieg; the grant they were under the existing ayetem paying money to a foreign agent. The grant was originally conceded upon domestic grounds, but es the matter now atood,there was no domestic clergy, because the Pope of Rome exercised authority over the bishops, while the bishops con trolled the clergy. In point of fact, therefore, the, agents of the Pope enjoyed the administration of the Mayneoth funds, and looking 'at the conduct of the heads of the college wince the year 1845, he could arrive at no other conclusion than that the time had arrived when an inquiry ought to take place into the affairs of the college.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") Well, then, how was that inquiry to take place? Some proposed that it should be by commission, and not by Parliamentary Committee ; but he did not agree with them. The ir:lefty ought to be a dispassionate and candid one, and he thought a Parliamentary Com mittee was a fit and proper tribunal to engage in the investigation.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") The posi tion of the State Church was a very different ques tion to the present. At a future day that question might be fairly discussed, but in the meantime let them have a Committee to examine into the operation of the grant made to the ennosite Cnurch.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. GLADSTONE said the latter remark of the last speaker referred to tim, but he begged to state that he had no desire to tea the State Church of Ireland in any way disturbed. Mr. FORTESCUE said the speech of the Learned Attorney-Generel was an echo of the No-Popery cry which had been reised out of doors, and he looked upon it as the curse of the country. There appeared to be no end to it in Protestant England and. Protestant Scotland, and it was daily be coming apparent that the Catholic Emaneipetion Act was not carried with the hearty concurrence of the people of Great Britain. He for one deplored this much, beenese , it satisfied him that the future was still pregnant with danger for Ireland,—(hear, hear.) This ProteStaht country could not long go on treating Remelt Catholic Ireland' in this manner, or else the Roman Catholic 1 , People of Ireland would begin to think that they would be better off without their connexion with England.— ' (lear.) Compared with the revenues enjoyed by the State Church, this great Wad ridiculously insignificant, ; end to make it is pretext for reviving the No-Popery cry in Perliament was impolitic as well as unjust.— . (Hear, hear.) With regard to this particular:motion, he contended that there was no necessity for any inquiry, and he should unhesitatingly give his decided opp os i t i on h s a P rotestant I r i s h man t o th e proposal of th e H oe . M em b er f o r N o rth War w ick e hire. MA DRUMMOND could not separate the questionof lequity fro m t h e persons who war© to conduct it.— (llear, h ear. ) NOW i n d ec idi ng th e two'questions it should not b e f orgotten t h a t Ireland w a s a Roman Catholi c country, while the State Church was originally plantethby the force of the bay.onet.—(Hear, hear.) Th e H en. Mem b er f ur North Warivickehire charged Maynooth with encouraging irreligion and im morality, b at h e con t en d e d that a P ro t est . n t was - totally , incompetent to decide whether the doctrines taught at Maynooth were proper or not.— (Hear, hear.) They ought not to propose inquiries of this nature, but to rejoice that there was such a church amongst us like the Roman Catholic Church, which stood up for the divine institution of hie rarchy, 'and the governmental system or principle.— (Hear, hear.) It was not for him to decide what were hhe • doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church, but the Roman Catholics would agree with him that the order of the Jesuits had been denounced as incompatible with the safety of society.—(Hoar, hear.) The Pope suppressed tho order on that account, and yet at this moment the order was predominant in the Roman Catholic Church. (Rear, hear.) The recent aggression of Cardinal Wiseman and his followers was dictated by the Jesuits, and it should not be forgotten that the firm conviction of this body was that they ought to have the government of the whole world in their own hands.—(blear, hoar.) In point of fact they declared themselves openly opposed to the liberty encouraged and protected under the name of Protestantism, and this it was that had irritated the people of England and Scotland against the Roman Catholic Church.--(Lear.) They were jea lous of their civil and religious liberties, and although their anger, might be misdirected, yet at bottom it was sincere are e just.--(1-lean) The Jesuits had com tthaelirr e Sovereign, that they thmenced a crusade against Gre et Britain, and the people were e h he had too much fai:h y ut owed allegiance to the Pope in the honesty and courage of th e peop l e to suppose that this doctrine would ever make progress within these re al tns.—(Hear, hear.)te h before e FRESHFIELD then moved the adjournment of the debate. Mr. ANSTEY resisted the motion, and declared that it was another maLm'ivre to get rid of th e d e b a t e alto gether.—(No,. no.) Why it was proposed to adjourn the debate sine die.—lNT •-• 0 , CO.) Yes, bat it was.—(No.) The SPEAKER 55 ". ilia Rouse must first decide that the dt;bate should he adjourned before they could fix the time.—(llear) hear.) Mr. spooNER, in spite of the insinuations thrown out by t h e Hon. and Learned G e ntl eman an d hi s fol lowers, had, no hesitation in sa yi ng t h at ho was qu i te ready to name the time if the forms of the House would allow him to do so.-- (11 , , (H ear, bear.) H e wou ld a dj ourn th e debate until six Melt if those Hon. Gentleman who had motions on the paper would give way.—(Hear.) He bad been charged with ei want of honesty in making this motion and altering it to accommodate the views of the Government; bat he denied this in Coto.—(Hear, heir.) He had never altered his specific motion, nor had he ever been insincere either in proposing it, or in his desire to bring it, to a division.—(Hear, hear.) lie hoped the .House would now alloW the debate to be adjourned until afterthe other orders of the day, and he had no objection to make tt motion to that effect. The SPEAKER repeated that the House must first decide that the debate should be adjourned before it could fix the time.—(Elear, heart) Mr. D'EYNCOUB.T urged the House to fix the ad journzhent for a future day. Th e CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, considering the present state of public butinese, he thought, it the discussio a was to be adjourned, that it would be expedient to continuo it to-day, but on the w h o l e he. considered it would be better to divide at once.—(Cheers.) Mr. REYNOLDS said he had no objection to adjourn the debate, nor to the motion itself, but they (the Irish Members) titre not prepared to divide,: as there were several of them who wished to address the House on the question. $-to hoped, if the House ulti mately decided th re at an, inquiry should be institutad, it would spare Roman Catholics the infliction of haying the ROM Member for North arwickshiro chairman, or Committee. Mr. T. DUNCOMwee said as a Preliminary r question, _they ought to decide whether the House should situ-morrow. If it did sit ho saw no objection why the debate should hot be adjourned until to-morrow , There was no in the country favour feelingin of this question being renew e d al the House, and he could not himself see that any r , good could result from these de bates. If an in l e ` r Y into M ynooth 'were 'instituted it was impossible to brie it . a- conclusion durihg the to . a present session. pie ha s for the , a a. motion on the paper abolition of the post-no duty, bat he had no objectton, to give vette' to enable, post-horse uty, be adjourned. until the debate to this evening. Lord ROBERT GROSVENOR sa id he was per fectly willing to • withdravr his motion for the abolition of the attorneyB' certificate y dut, p r ovided the Govern mentt would giyo posi tion for some other day this we e k, hl as good a . The gall ery wagcleared, but no division took place, it having be enthen dthat the debate shohld be adjourned Until after ' a g ree orders of the day, Mr ANSTEY the other d out that the ' m oved as an amenem de bate be continued In at six o'clock. The SPEa4ER m otion was irregular. The entertain House could not "Idthat a motion • rvbich was inconsis tent with its own ent Mr. ANSTEy said he would met© another motion, viz, that the debate sh Id be adjourued u ntil to-morrow. Mr. REYNOLDS, in re to certain observations made by The O'Gorman Mah e Un Y concerning hixtiself, raid he supposed that Gallant Member wanted him to take a re turn ticket to W eybrid g (Laughter)--but he assured him that he wristlet to be hullied. — ( Llu g hter.)- 111" WEY NCOURT said if it was the general wish of the House, he would withdraw his motion to enable the debate to eerie en ehein to-night. Mr. KEOGH thought, it the Government were sincere, they ought to Ex a day for th e debate, and not call on Members to abandon their motions. The CHA NCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it Was quite impossible for the Government to fix any of the few days left them for debates which were not con nected with the immediate and pressing neeessiti" of public business. He had already , thrown out a sugges tion, and he mrist leave Hon. Members to settle the nutter among themselver. After a few words from M r . S CU LLY and Sir A. CACIPBELL, The House divided, when there appeared— For adjourning the debate till to-morrow 58 Against it ..• ... 278 •.• ••• Majority •-• *** 220 THE DERBY DAY. Lord PALMERSTON, in pursuance of his notice, rose to move that the House at its rising do adjourn till Thursday. There was no hope of any public business being got through *morrow, unless there was a cull of the House, and the only other alternative was to propose the present motion. Mr. SHARMAN CRAWFORD was under 1 h e ne cessity of opposing the motion ; but ho was ob' iged to do so, as one of the orders of the day for to-morn !ow re lated to a question in which he himself was cone( reed. Mr. ANSTEY moved that the debate be adj o urne d , in order that the country might see whether the House preferred the amusement of the race-course to ti to busi ness of the country. The House then divided, when there appeared- For the amendment 43 Against it ... 212 Majority ...-169 For the original motion ... 190 Against it ... ... 47 Majority ... ..-143 The motion was accordingly agreed to. Mr. FITZROY then moved that the House do e.dj loan at once until Thursday. It was evident to him tlt st no public business could be got through to-night.—(H.e sr.) After• a few words from, Mr. Anstey, Mr. Newcf,o gate, and Mr. D'Eyncourt, the House divided, when there appeered— For the motion. 89 Against it ... 128 Majority against it ••• •• The House then adjourned at Six o'clock until ;ight o'clock. The SPEAKER took the Cnair again at Eight ek. Lord .D. sr UARP gave notice that on Thurtidaj ho wc , uld put a question to the Government relative to the care of Edward Murray, a British subject, and a pri soner under sentence of death at Rome. An HON. MEMBER hero moved that the Hotta ) be counted, and 38 Members only being found present, , the House was adjourned till Thursday next. • fectly understend what I alluded to in "leaving my vengeance within your bands." I was speaking in re lation to that declaration still in course of signature by a number of Liberal supporters of Lord Albert Conyng hani and myself, at the last election, which stops short of no length —not even that of giving votes to Mr. Johnstone snd Mr. GiPps, in order to prevent the re turn of Colonel Romilly to Parliament. It' is with sincere regret that I should' again have been compelled to trouble you upon these painful topics, and again ever so reluctantly have the appearance of re newing a controversy, which I could wish, in seine way or another, for ever settled, that I havo the ;honour to be, gentlemen, your very faithful servant, GEOLIGE SYDNEY S MYTHE . 68, Ilarley-stroet, May 25. LA W I NTELLIGENCE. BLOUSE OF LORDS May 25. BENNET'S DIVORCE. Their Lordships sat this afternoon, for the purpose of hearing evidence in support of the second reading of this Bill. Mr. MEREWETRE_Tt stated the circumstances of the case. The parties were married in the year 1833, and lived together until 1844, having issue two eons, now aged eighteen and fifteen. In the month of August, Mr. Bennet !being absent on a shooting excur sion the north, Mrs. Bennet suddenly disap peared, taking with her the youngest son, leaving behind her no trace of where 53 h o had betaken herself to. After repeated inquiries Mr. Bennet, having followed her through Fra❑ce cud Italy, discovered Mrs. Bennet residing at Valencia in Spain under the name of Fremantle. In an interview which he had with her there he endeavoured to persuade her to return to Eng land, but in vain, end after repeated efforts, all he could do was to prevail on her to surrender to him his youngest son, whom she had with her, and to execute a deed of separation. All that time Mr. John Henry Touchet, with whom Mr. Bennet suspected his wife to have eloped, was also residing at Valencia, but Mr. Bennet was unable then to obtain any evidence of an improper intercourse between the parties. From that time Mrs. Bennet continued to reside abroad, and on the 21st of August, 1851, the petitioner being at the Reigate Station, saw Mr. Touchet standing on the platform there, and baying some reason to believe that his wife was expected to arrive in England from Boulogne, ho set a watch on the parties. Mrs. Bennet, in fact, did shortly arrive at Reigate station, where she was received by Mr. Touchet. The two then proceeded to Horsham, and engaged apartments at tho King's Head Inn, not as man and wife; and that night after all the house had retired to rest, Mr. Touchet was seen to leave his own room and go into that of Mrs. Ben net, where ho remained till the next morning. Mr. Bennet brought an action ensainst Mr. Touchet For trim. con., and recovered Soot. damages; ho also obtained a divorce in the Consistorial Court; and finally made the present application to dissolve the marriage. Several witnesses were called in proof of this state ment, and at half-past four the further consideration of the Bill was adjourned until Friday. BAIL COURT May 25. (Sittings at Nisi Prins, IG-qoi-e Mr. Juelice WIGHTZIAN.) ANDREWS v. BATLEY. Mr. Edwin Jame s Q C., and Mr. Udall, w e r e counse l for the plaintiff.; and Mr. Sergeant Wilkins for the de fondant. This was an action to recover damages for an assault. The plaintiff was a milliner, in Mortimer-street Caven dieh-square, and the defendant was the son of a gentle man living on Maida-hill. It appeared that in September last the plaintiff went to a Bloomer ball in the costume, accompanied by a Mies Forsyth ; they there met the de fendant for the first time; ho paid attention to Miss For syth, and after the night of the ball the defendant con tinued those attentions, and was abotut to be married to the lady. The plaintiff went to the defendant's father, and urged upon him that it was not a desirable match. The next day the defendant called upon the plaintiff, and after some violent conversation the plaintiff called the defendant a liar, and then the defendant committed the assault upon her. The following was the plaietiff's evidence Mrs. Andrews--I am a milliner. In September last I went to the Bloomer bell at tho Ilartoce:r -square Rooms, accompanied by Mite Forsyth. I saw the de fendant at the b a ll. Il e got a cab and took a seat in it. I requested him to leave the eel), which he did, and I took Aliss Forsyth home. I nf:erwards called upon the defendant's father, as I had heard the defendant was about to be married to Miss Forsyth, to explain to tho father that I did not think it an eligible match. Tho next day the defendant and Mrs. Disney, who are related to Miss Forsyth, callod'on me, and believed very violently. They left the house. The defendant returned, and after some conver sation he sprang upon me, and struck me many blows about the head, neck, bosom, and shoulders. lie said, " D—n you, I w ill suffocate you." Both my arms were very. much bruised, and remuined discoloured for a fort night after. Trio of my apprentices and a customer were present. Cross-examined—I have been married. My husband has been dead eight or nine years. lam 28 or 29, but I really don't know my age. It is near 30. I went in the costume of the Bloomers. There is an announcement in my window that dressmaking is taught in six lessons, and furnished lodgings to let. I had sent to Captain Disney for. money owing me for Miss Forsyth. I went to the defendant's house and asked for his mother. I recollect calling the defendant a liar. I did not tear his coat. I was perfectly calm. I might have been excited. I don't recollect saying that 'Alm Disney was a low-bred Irishwoman: The defendant told me Mrs. Dieney would proceed against me for defamation. I said nothing re proaching Miss Forsyth's character. I did not summon the defendant before the magistrate, but hewas aura -1 moned. Re - examined... -.I had been making costumes for this ball, and hacl a ticket given me Dbv the manag ers . M rs. i requested me to teke Miss Forsyth to th e b a ll. Tho sney Disneye lived at 316, Regent -street. By the regulation of the ball all ladies were to be dressed as Bloomers. Anne Glasspool, an apprentice of the plaintiff, give evidence as to the assault upon the plaintiff. He etruek the witness on the bosom and on the mouth and loosened her teeth. Sarah Tilton, a customer of the plaintiff, also proved the assault. There was such a piece of work that she thought Mrs. Andrew s was being murdered. Mr. Sergeant WILKINS made a most amusing speech for the cleteodant; he denied the assault, but thought it not improbable that being provoked in the highest degree by the Plaintiff, he had shaken her. The smallest coin would amply satisfy the case. Mr. Justice WIGH.TATAN having summed up, the jury retired. The jury canto in and asked the smallest sum tha would carry coats. The JUDOE said that they had better give a verdict without thinking of costs. The jury gave a verdict for 5/. The JUDGE refused to give a certificate to the plaintiff for her costs; he did not see why the case should not have been tried in the County Court. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. MARLBOROUGH-STREET. William Smith, C 156, was brought before Mr. Bing ham, charged with having received money at various times from foreign prostitutes who frequent Regent street and that neighbourhood. Mr. Ballantine was for the defendant. Louisa Aubert (through an interpreter) said she gained a living by prostitution. She waa accustomed to walk out at night in Regent -street and Waterloo-place. She knew the defendant as being one of the constables on that beat. The first time the conatablo spoke to her she gave him a shilling, She had given him a shilling three or four times after that. She was apprehended with a number of other prostitutes some time back by the de fendant and other 'constables. The defendant told her she need not be alarmed. She was bailed out. The prisoner made no proposal to her then, but told her not to walk so often in the part of Regent-street she had been eceuatomed to frequent. After alio had been be fore the magistrate and fined, she offered the prisoner some money. The prisoner told her to put up her money, and to Meet him at a public-house in the , neighbourhood. Complainant went to the :public house and gave the prisoner two half-crowns and some drink. Caroline Devine bad .never given money to the priso ner, though she had to other policemen. Rachel Deschamps had given the prisoner a shilling.: Another witmss said she bad given money to police constables, but not more to the prisoner th an to the Others'. Inspector When said the constable had b een eight years t n h d e e d, a 1 n 1 a o n e t i o n r e r o a b d o d r r a e t s i s o e n d tfh thee C ° B u t r a r t , e a m n e d u c t s o n o t f e in the force, and bore a good character. wit nesses, that tho charge h a d f a il ed. the M re r. w ß a a s Mr. BINGHAM deferred his dec . iston until next Thurs day. WESTIWNSTEa. Charles Dobson and William Blackmorc, two power ful piling men, were charged with being concerned with a number of others in a desperate attack upon the pore 3. The facts of the police discovered _a Case are these:—On Friday night the Westminster, crowd of persons assembled at St. Ertniu's-hill, Glace bet twoW stwinater, where- a fight was taking men. The officers parted the the other combat an t s, and requested b them to go away. One did bsoe,eebsustary to take hire into custody, violent td that it it wase aboutfound proceeding with him to the us st o atL an wh t en ey a w d e e r sperate attar* was made upon them by a large mob, consisting of thieves, prostitutes, and other loose characters with which the neighbourhood abounds: Stones, brickbats, and other missiles were burled at the constables, two of whom were wounded on the forehead, and others se verely injured. James Meadows, 98 B, was knocked down by ono fellow, and then attacked without mercy by halt-a-dozen more while upon the ground, and kicked with great brutality. Police-constable Shipp, 135 B, was also knocked down, kicked over the eyes, and in va _ rious parts of his body, and Mayer, 214, received like ill-treatment. Considerab le confusion p revailed in the neighbourhood, owing to the riot and desperate cunduct of the parties by whore the police 'Nero assailed. 'l' ...he there, the wounded con man who had boon taken in the first instance wa- 4res cued and escaped, end, after lodging, ens , ot the ring leaders in the station, who required no lees then seven ° defendants took s constables tvie e to, i.e t e o va; c att o us n t g v t e iev y e e t nbdethodiipmvri prove divisional a s t U t r b g e e injuries they moat AetlV® part in the attack upon the a had received. 1 and were comp:lie:et:dal:dr 1 had li ; inflicted fl a i e c e t e n d s r come a made e f n t hoe defence, irij' trial. -- CLERKEN IV ELL. Mr. James Husband, solicitor, of Gold Hawk-terrace, New-road, Hammersmith, was placed in the felons' dock, before Mr. TIUWIIITT, ohorged by Mr. Rusk HOUSE OF COMMONS, May 25. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yeaterday.3 i..tAirNOOTH COLLEW ADJOURNED DE BATE. On the order of the day for the resumption of the ad journed debate, Mr. Sergeant MURPHY rose for the purpose of op posing the motion of the lion. Member for North War wickshire, but it must not be supposed that he was opposed to inquiry, for he was of opinion that the result orthe most stringent inquiry would redound to the credit of the Maynooth College.—(flear.) The conclusion of such inquiry, he believed, would satisfy every impartial person that Maynooth College was an institution which had answered the purpose for which it was intended, and in which the soundest moral doctrines and the strictest loyalty were taught.—(Hear, hear.) Why, then, he might be asked, do you oppose the motion?— (Hear, hear.) He would tell them. The inquiry was proposed in a mean spirit of retaliation upon the Roman Catholic body, and it was not brought forward in good faith.—(Hear, hear.) At first the motion was absolutely against the grant to Maynooth, and so the notice of motion remained on the votes down to the end of February, when an additional notice of mo tion for an inquiry was placed upon the paper, • and the previous notice was still allowed to remain standing.— (Hear, hear.) But shortly after this period her Ma jesty's present advisors came into office, and as, no doubt, the original motion was discovered to be a difficulty in their way, the notice of motion for the absolute discon tinuance of the grant to Maynooth was expunged froni the votes.—(Bear, hear) So far, then, for the first. Now for the second. What necessity was there for it? He insisted that there , was none, because some few years ago a commission was ap pointed by the Crown to examine into the doctrinea taught in Maynooilo and that investigation ended,hs ell others would do, in establishing not ooly the roundness, but the validity and scrupulous morality of the princi ples taught and inculcated in the minds of the students at Maynooth.—(Hear, hear.) All the charges which had previously been made against the college were thoroughly refuted, and the insinuation that ultramon tame views were entertained by its professors eras denied in the report prepared by the Commissioners.--(Hear, hear.) Where, then, would be the benefit of instituting a second inquiry? If the mo tion was intended to put the House in possession of more information upen the subject he could assure the /lonia that no more information could be obtained thannhe re port contained, and all, therefore, that they should do, if that was the object of the motion, was to order the re port to be reprinted.—(Hear, hear.) But, admitting that another iaquuy was necessary, the, iequiry could be had without any motion of the sort, for the Lord- Lieutenaet not only possessed the power of appointing an aennal visitetion, but also, if he so thought fig, to. re new the Commis,ion, which could sift the subject far more efficiently than a Genet if tee of this House.--(Hear, let art) tithe .visitation had take::: pitee,ev•:. , ry year since th existence of the grant, and if any of these abuses did eziat in the collegeoehich had been charged against it, they would long ago have bten brought to light.--(Hea r, hear.) Ho complaineci of the spirit and o manner in which this motion was made. A Commission was s it t i ng an d easesireieg into.., the abuses of the Eeglish Universities, but in the appointment of that Commission there had been ao . desire to prejudge ,the question, as was manifested in this iaztaace.—(flear.) How could the Hon. , Member fur North Warwickshire, as a stroeg and conscientious Protestant, conduct an impartial inquiry into : the doctrines and religious principles taught in Maynooth? But setting that objection aside, could this, inquiry be proposed in good faith, when it was clear that they had almost attained the end of a moribund Parliament?-se(Bear,;hear.) Appoint. tho Committee, and what could it do? hy, nothing, but simply meet once and adjourn, and then the dissolution would suddenly bring their labours to a close.—(Hear.) Permit him, however, to ask the question, what grounds had bees urged in favour of the inquiry? None at all. Every argument which had been brought forward was not in favour of inquiry, but against the grant, because the Roman Catholic; religion was the iuling principle of the college.—(hear, hear.) It should be remembered that the object of the Legislature in assisting the college was to promote the domestic religion of the people of Ire land, and he was prepared to prove that the college authorities had in no way departed from the original purposes of the institution.—(acer, hear.) He con tended that Maynooth had nothing to do with the ultra montane teaching now prevalent in Ireland. Did they suppose that if Sir Robert Peel, when he proposed to iecreato the grant to Maynooth had found the: the teaching practised at tho college, was such as it was described to be, he would not have asked a commission of inquiry, and been guided by the result? Sir Robert Peel was slow in approaching reform, but when he did effect any reform, it was always of the moot Bearching and comprehensive character; yet, with all his caution,he had never seen anything to condemn or complain of in the . system cf education pursued at Maynooth. The cur r:cuitiro at Maynooth extended ever eight yearn and that period elapsed from the time the young men entered until he wont forth to the world an ordained priest. Now the permanent grant west:or:do in 1845, but it did not coma into operation until 1846, so that six years bad elapsed since the benefits of the grant had been enjoyed tniaynooth. Therefore, he would undertake to say that not a single Roman Catholic priest, educated at Maynooth since the grant was made, had participated in any public demonstration in Ireland. Wan it a legit cal conclusion, thee, to, say : that such was the system of education pursued at Mayuooth, and such the evil effects arising leom dt, that an inquiey was absolutely necessary ? He thought he was bound to make the inquiry whether, if it • •was proved: , before thp Committee that the system of education had never been altered and. was free from the objections that had been urged, those who supported the. Hon. Member for Warwickshire ,would be prepared to uphold the rant? When insurrection was rife in Ireland , who was it that steod between the people and bloodshed but the Roman Catholic priests? Ho met with a positive denial the assertion that the education at Maynooth encouraged immorality, and shook the allegiance of those under: its influence. Ono of the most illogical reasons for doing away with the grant, was advanced by the Home Seeretary, who said the College , of Maynooth was once poor, but was now comparatively rich, But after improving the condition of the professors, and making them almost affluent, were they to reduce them to a state of povertyanain? The Home Secr e t ar y h a d also stated th a t t h e 4llege was intended for domestic being purposes, end that the f un d s vo t e d b y P ar li ament, in 6for the education o edueaf fotionreigu priestspriestso.f employed a t used i o the ittoerna' cl e ,of were ; but it that Right Ho •n. Gentlemen had instituted the . most meagre inquiry he would have. ascertained there was no foundation whatever for thafassertion, which was so often repeated- by the great cliampions of Protea. autism. When famine , visited Ireland than there was a fusion between the Roman Catholics and Pro testants, who forgot all their religious differences in their anxiety to minister to the wants of tho people, and now the Hon. Member for Warwickshire sought to separate and destroy that happy union by a motion of this nature. It was said there was a conspiracy at Maynooth, but he treated the present movement as part of a conspiracy in high places in' this country against Catholicity —as a conspiracy on the part of the University of Oxford for the purpose of retaliation against that earnest inquiry which had ' been evinced •by Protestants to arrive 'at the religious truth. The Protestant feeling abroad in the country would notula low a Government, however well disposed, to do justice to Ireland. Roman Catholic Members in that House had,- therefore, only one resource, and that was self-de .pendence, They should attach themselves to no party, and keep aloof from alleparty conflicts, and then, *hen •the fitting moment arrived, form themselves into com pact. array and .teach the Government anal the• House that the undeniable rights and privileges of the Roman Catholics were not to be tampered' with with impunity. Mr.•NAPIER' said - that the preseht motion having been brought forward the' 'an independent Member of the House, it was for the Government to consider what course they would take on the Subject. Before the pre sent Government had taken office, the proposal was in the ehape of an absolute repeal of the grant. ' To that, of course the Government could not, consistent with a due discharge' of their' duty, assent, nor could he himself, whatever his individual conr , viction on the subject might be; give his con sent to such a course; but after the accession of the 'Government to office, the Hen. Mover of this motion, knowing that the Government would not consent to a repeal of the grant, had altered his motion to a request for a Committee of Inquiry. To that motion he considered the Government were bound to consent. Such an inquiry—to see whether the grant were carried out to the full benefit of those for whom thvgrant was first establisheds--cOuld not but bo of ute. In the first place it was necessary to, see what were the intentions and" the purpose of that legislation by which this grant was established. After tracing at some length the progress of legislation with regard to the Roman Catholic religion the Learned Gentleman proceeded to show that Maynooth bwaats as en d established saca an education f or those who, but for the ex pense,institution,endowment,provide and their not being able to be wider the Roman Catholic discipline, might at that time have repaired to Trinity College, Dublin. That was the object with which Maynooth was founded, and it was not intended then as a state establishment, but merely recsiv;ng stare aid. • As they received a State grant, he coa tended it was the duty of Parliament to asecrtaiu whether the grant was applied to the proper purposes. It wa s under those circumstances that the inquiry which had been already alludad'took place. Originally May nooth-wag not regarded as a seminary for priests but for persons of the Rehash Catholic religion, and it was PARLIAMENTARY .DIVISIONS. (From the Votes and Proceedings of the House of Coma ons.) TUESDAY, MAY 25. DERBY DAY. Motion made and Question proposed, " That this douse will, at the rising of the House this day, adjourn till Thurs day next :" Debate arising; Motion made, and Question put, " That the Debate be now adjourned." The :House divided MINORITY-AYES, 43. MAJORITY-NOES, 212. Main Question put. The House divided MAJORITY—AYES, 190. • Adderley, C. B. Farnham, E. Mailings, J. R.: Arbutlmott, Hon. IL Ferrer, James Mundy, William Arkwright, G. Fellowes, Edward Naas, Lord Begot, lion. W. Filmer, Sir E. Napier, Joseph Bailey, Crawshay Fitzroy, lion. H. Newdegate, N. Baillie, 11. J. Forbes, William Noel, G. J. Baird James Fordyce, A. D. Nugent, sir Percy Baldoek, E. li. Forester, Colonel Ossulston, Lord Bankes, G. Fox, S. W. L. Packs, C. W. Barrington, Lord Freestun, Colonel Pakington, Sir J. Benbow, John Freshfield, J. W. Palmerston, ViscOun' Bennet, Philip Fuller, A. E. Patten, J. W. Beresford, Willlan2 Gallwey, Sir W. P. Pennant, Colonel Blair, Stephen Galway, Viscount Portal, Melville Booth, Sir R. Gaskell, J. M. l'owlett, Lord W. Bowles, Admiral Gilpin. Colonel Prime, Richard Breestridge, Richard Gladstone, W. E. Puny, Philip Bridges, Sir B. Glyn, G. C. Renton, J. C. Brisco, M. Gooch, Sir E. S. Repton, G. W. Brea:man, E. D. Gore, W. 0. Richards, Richard Brooke, Sir A. Goulbun, 11. Rushout, Captain • Bruce, Lord E. Grosvenor, Lord _B. Balwey, Colonel Bruce, C. L. Gwyn, Rowel Sanders, George Buck, Lewis W. Hale, R. B. Scott, Francis Buller, Sii J. Y. HAMM, Sir IL Seaharn, Viscount Burghley, Lord Hallowell, E. G. Seymour, H. D. Burrell, Sir C. Halsey, T. P. Sidney, Alderman Butler, S. P. Hamilton, G. A. Spooner, Richard Butt, Isaac Hamilton, Lord C. Stallard, Augustus Campbell, W. F. - Hardinge, C. S. Stanford, J. F. Carew, W. IL Pole Hayes, Sir E. Stanley, Edward eavendisb, W. G. Ileathcote, Sir G. Stanley, W. 0. Chaplin, W. J. Henley, J. W. Stewart, Admiral Christopher, It. Herbert, H. A. Stuart, Lord D. Christy, Samuel Herbert, Sidney Stuart, H. Clay, James Herries, J. C. Stunt, Homy G. Clive, R. 11. Hodges, .T. L. Tennent, R. J. Clive, H. B. Hodgson, W.:N. Thompson, Colonel Cobbold, J. C. Hope, Sir J. Trollope, Sir J. Cocks, T. S. Hope, H.T.: Tyler, Sir G. Cogan, W. 11. Hope, A. Tyrell, Sir J. Coles, 11. 11. Hudson, G. Vane, Lord 11. Collins, Thomas Hume, Joseph Verner, Sir W. Collins, William Inglis, Sir,: tt. Villiers, Viscount Copeland, Alderman Jolliife, Sir W. G. Vi v ian, J. 11., Corry, 11. Jones, Captain Vyse, It. H. Cotton, W. 11. Rerrison, Sir E. Walpole, Spencer Crowder, It. B. - Kinnaird, A. F. Walsh, Sir J. Cubitt, Alderman Knox, W. S. Watkins, Colonel Darner, Co.lonel Langton, W, 11. Welby, G. E. Davies, D. A. Legh, G. C. Whiteside, James Beetles, W., Lewisham, Viscount Whitmore, T. C. Disraeli, B.: Lockhart, A. E. Wigram, Loftus Dodd, Owl - go Lockhart, W. Wilcox, B. M'Ghle Drummond, Henry Long, W. Williams, T. P. Drummond, Home Mahon, Viscount Williams, William Duckworth, Sir J. • Martin, John Worcester, 3larquiS Duncombe, A. Maunsell, T. P. Wrightson, W.B. Du Pre, C. G. • Meux, Sir Henry Wynn, H; W. East, Sir J. B. Miles, William Wyvill, Marmaduke Edwards, Henry Milton, Viscount Egerton, Sir P. Mitchell, T. A. TELLERS. Ellice, 8., jun. Molesworth, Sir W. : Mackenzie, W. F. Emlyn, Viscount Moody, C.A. Bateson, Thontas Easton, Earl Morgan, 0. MINORITY—NOES, 47. Adair, R. Matto Greene, John Pilklngton, James Alcock, Thomas Hardcastle, J. A. Reynolds, John Armstrong, Sir A. Heard, J. I. Robartes, T. J. A. Bell, Jacob , , ' Hey worth, L. Scobell, Captain Bouveric, B. F. I [Maley, C. Scully, Francis Brotherton, J. Holland, Robert Scully, Vincent Brown, 11. Keating, Robert Smythe, George Crawford, W. S. Keogh, William Smollett, A. D'Eyncourt, C. T. Kershaw, James Sullivan, Michael Douglas, Sir C. Litslett, William Tollemache, F. J. Duff, James Meagher, Thomas Walmsley, Sir J. Duke, Sir J. Mahon, O'Gorman Williams, John Duncan, Viscount Mowatt, Francis Wood, Sir W. I'. Duncan, George Murphy, F. S., . _ Duncombe, T. Ellis, John liorieys, Sir D. TELLERS, O'Flaherty, Anthony Anstey, T. C. Ewart, William Pechelt, Sir G. Scliolefield. W. TRE " COUNT OUT" OF LAST NIGHT. The following Members were present when the House of Commons was counted out last night : Lord Robert Grosvenor Mr. D'Eyncourt Mr. Sharman Crawford Mr. Hindley Mr. Smith Child Mr. L :ley Mr. Howell Gwyn Mr. G. A. Hamilton Mr. Hayter Colonel Gilpin Lord Duncan Mr. G. Greenall Lord Dudley Stuart Colonel Thompson Mr. T. Hobhouse Mr. Thornely Mr. Anstey Mr. Meagher Mr. Scholetield Mr. V. Scully Mr. Spooner Mr. O'Flaherty Sir Joshua Walmsley Sir B. Bridges Sir W. Page Wood Mr. Packe Mr. S. Carter Mr. J. Greene Mr. H. Brow n Mr. T. Duncombe Captain Schobell Mr. GroganMr. Tancred The O'Gorman Mahon Mr. W. Williams Captain Fordyce Mr. J. Ellis. Mr. John Williams rouibßl • hs the y OriOn following CANTERBURY ELECTION._ w N . E ba L ve lbteoeni/r/eLciLtioisteAd NtDo tettor : TO TRE E L ECTORS OF CANTERB URY. Gentlemen,—ln m uch as Colonel Romilly hes _lnasmuch an address, " W hi ch I shall sib • thought proper to stein from characterising ," lam reluctantly compelled* h ' the mazes of a difference which I u i to follow him through and for ever at an end. had hoped was at I had hoped sothe more, because I h a d b een led to believe that our dispute terminated in the common for- ina lity which Colonel Romilly and myself went through on Friday last, for which I sincerely f ee l that an apology is due o you, gentlemen, in the p resent temper of Bri tish t opinion at least it was not my f ault if British groti o n p d oinon atila_t cceaaion was profa ne d , and nothing but the insuperb scruples of my ga ll ant colleague " for 1e private en d f a mily reasons of hi s own " against an issue abroad, prevent showing that defere nce to the general w thinking in th is country which I f e el that youhoea,eed of me from have a right t o exact. . At any rate , am confident that you will approve of the feeling i n which 1 met my adversary' s second hall-way, w hen, with honourable promptitude, he expressed his anxiety t o me on Friday morning that thenceforward, throughout the contested election, all bad blood and all BF-feeling might cease to exist. Colonel Romilly, however, has since thought it expo. dient to re-open the whole question. First of all by his insisting upon the publication of " the minutes of a dif ference,' to which Captain Vivian, on my part, was Strongly opposed, and to w hi c h he only, after long delays and grave objections, finally consented; and, se condly, by the address now lying before mo, which is very imperfectly correct. My gallant colleague states " that he had no commu nication with me previous to the election of 1850." I never said that he had; but I assorted, what he does not contradict, that I wrote to the chairman of the meeting which introduced hie), for the first time, to the electors of Canterbury, calli ng upon a ll my friends to support him. Colonel Romilly goes on to say, that " his being then elected " was not, in his belief, owing to my sup port. I believe that it was so owing; and a reconcile ment between these two contrary beliefs' is obviously impossible. I am glad, however, that Colonel Readily does not deny, if he somewhat ungraciously acknow ledges, my assistance, in his phrase, " The fuct of that support I am ready to admit." My gallant colleague goes on to state,—" On the subject of the now approach ing election I never had any formal interview with Mr. SmYtho." Here, again, I never contended that he had. "It is true that, having mot me on several occasions, he (-fir. Smythe) has originated conversations with me on the subject." Now, the point of this sentence consists in the word which I have ventured to italicise. It is precisely my charge against Colonel Romilly that he did allow me to originateconversations on the coming election. My spoken words were these:—" At any rate it was under the hallucination that our coalition, as I had heard nothing to the contrary, still subsisted, that, directly after the certainty of an immediate dissolution, I spoko to my colleague in the sense of making imme. diate and joint preparations." Colonel Ronsilly remarks, very truly, that " Mr. Smythe appeared to be annoyed, and expressed himself warmly on the occasion," but the gallant officer is under a complete misapprehension when he continues —"but he afterwards distinctly admitted to sae that I bad acted towards him fairly and Openly in the matter." The matter to which I alluded in these expressions had no reference whatever to Colonel Romilly's general conduct towards myself; they were s i mp l y used in courteous Sc. of a letter which Colonel Romilly had sent to me, intiTating his intention to hold a meeting of his hinds in Canterbury; and had I known that at that meeting. Sir William Somerville's name was to be pro posed, I certainly should not have complimented Colonel Romilly either upon his openness or his frankness, There is but one more point in my colleague's address en which I &Aro to animadv e rt. N o t, p e t h ap s , with out an obje c t, h e see k s to i mpress upon your mind that at lam ani ma t e d b y some sp i r i t of " vengeance,, which say word he 'has car e f u lly i so l a t e d I som tho contex t of Speech of the 17th. But there is no one BMOl3g you who 0 35 not per" -..-. r. THE COUNTRY MARKETS. IPSWICH, MAY 25. The firmness ev i nce d i n Liverpool and other marks --„h pia fully particip a t e d i n our market to day, which, coopedl'l very short supply of wheat, gave the turn in favour of sellers ; and it appears hardly possible to prevent an aci r2l3 taking place. PER QUARTER.. 1 PER QUA attl• Wheat, red ........ . 41s to 4351 Peas 32s to w oos to „„°°: Ditto, white......... 4 5s to 4751 Oats Barley, malting 00s to 00s Rye OO5 to °"'" Ditto, grinding ... 00s to 0 ....... 003 to °°ll Beans AVERAGES FOR THE WEEK ENDING MAY 22; Ma , Wheat Barley Beans 25 ~ 31s 6d Peas Oats ..... •-• " Od HULL, MAY 25. Messrs. Taylor and Bright's Circular states :—Th ere ?h a : been more tone in the gra i n t ra d e generally throughout !,,g past week, and holders of fr e sh w h eat, as we ll as some sgrilo-g, corn, have had some advantage. Arrivals continue tri" iso o and consequently the tr ansact i ons in foreign grain are b o lo limited. The weather has been variable, but on the bt cold for the mo nt h. F or thi s d ay ' s market our farmers _,T.,-The a fair supply o f f res h w h eat, which met free sale at 1.1 °4 for currency of last Tuesday, with a strong dispositien "„ t ive some advan ce . F ore i gn wheat neglected. A fair coos ol Zood demand for each d escr i pt i on of spring corn . The 1-potiou market very qu i e t ; ca k es dull and lower, wi, h more se - , t ry of good f ore i gn, o f wh i ch it may not be imp '. rudent for in dealers to t a k e a d vantage. Rape cakes a n d bones Ma our quotations. The following are the present prices of grain B. s. Wheat, English, red 37 to 40 Do. white 4O 44 Dantzic and Ko- d. e 6 q. Peas, 'white and yel. 30 - ` l '" De. grey & •••• 26 -- Linseed, Black Sea. 4 nigsberg 42 46 Pomeranian and liamburgh 3B 40 Danish, Holstein, & Friesland . 36 38 Russian and Odessa 34 381 Oats, English Do. Danish Do.Friesland lB — 2 ,) Do. Russ. & Odessa Is 17 Barley, malting 2B 30 Do. grinding........ 213 27 Beans 29 31 Do., foreign 26 28 IDo. Pet'erstourgii ... 42 --* : 2 Do. Konigsberg .... 36 Do. Riga &Ar c b ug l. 38 40 --"' ''— ...... Per ton. (.ins. c., Hull 71 15a Od to 0 1°. iDo. fine for. ...715a Od 001 05 I Do. inf. foreign... 01 to 61°5 Rapeseed 23/ 10s to °„ A ° Rape cakes...92s 6d to 007, Tares, English .....,37s -- , .7f Do. foreign 323 --- "'" Guano 5/ 71 to 91 1 01 i, Bones, do 95s to 93 6Q I Rye Areal ............... ... 71 °6 CORK, MAY 24. Curren(/' st sag Barrels. A-20 0 Whits wheat 00 s 04 to 00s Od 003 0- 6 Red wheat lBB Cd to 183 6cl —2O dl 0 Ditto OOB Od to 00 8 Od 003 0 a 0 Ditto ......., 008 Od to 004 Cd 14 Barley 128 Od to 00s 041 Od X OO a o 0 Ditto O O5 Od to 00s Od -- 0 Ditto 77 Oats 11s Od to 12s Od 0 Ditto ... OOB Od to 008 Od 115 63—° d e 0 Ditto ... OOB. Od to 00s 04 0 Pigs 0 0s Od to 008 Od 00a fiO d Per cA4 Quantity sold at the Highest Pricer 0 barrels white wheat; 5 red ; 0 barley; . ' 0 bare' 6 " II " 0 pigs. Quantity of Grain and Number of P g il s PRICES OF BUTT Wheat, 17. Barley, 180. Oat CURRENCY. CA NT. . 745 First quality' ........ 65s First quality 63s Third qual ity o4s Third quality ..... 445 last 535 Fourth quality ......... 72 d Second E qu ßs° a 6. i l tdy. Pig s , . k . 6 a 3s Fourth hd quality Fifth quality Sixth quality 32s Sixth quality Return of Cattle sold for week endinc , May 15. Pigs, 249. Sheep, 334. Cows, 44.1 Coax. — Floury—First 12s 64 t o 13 s 04 ; extra 14s 61; „ m ond', 11s Od to 123 Od; household, 10s tolls ; thirds, 7s to B mPe i a tu c a l7 B . 7 B. B 6° 6 4 d attla t ° o 9 9 es o ao s ldi p l e P ea r trtolls H6lnday;d—iirlanFdiarnican6nimers97alif2:lBt6(oOld7tl:l°972B°9dsd;;a.pwve:tc e. Ss 008; dealers 263 to 3630 d; average 00sper ton. Straw— Farom x s h lO ou s:d ho t ld o 1170 f 044 to od Baod;.arerage 00s ; dealers 26. Od t o 003 6/4;! average 00s Od p er ton. Bread—Wheaten loaf 6id to Ot" pteor 33 6d re F r rT l li mdbredutt. c 0 butter, to 104 per lb. E n5...38 4 riewport 153 Od ; Lydney 15s ; Landore uos I2s 64 per tom, Tallow 35 8 Od to 393 per 1,111"_,, " Whisky, 25 o. p., 5. 94 per imperial gallon. 151. —Beef 41d to 7d ; mutton 5d to 6lid ; veal sd. .... ; pork 4d to Od ; b a c on 6d to 7 d ; sausages 5d per l b . FloPe 818 . to 9/08 per cwt. Bangor slates W 17s 6d to 31 08 per W iz ! Bark, red 71to 8/ 108 per ton. Fleece wool 148 to 15s per steno- Hemp 29/ t o 34/ per ton. Fish—Scotch herrings 19. WON; r+ > d ditto, 24s to 00s per barrel ; Newfoundland, 10/ Os to 111 PI ton. Timbe r —M eme l, 70 s per ton ; re d p i ne, 3i 58; Yelle ditto, 2/ 158 per ton; deals, 151 to 181 per 100. Hider Market 168 to 241; salted 18s to 24s per cwt ; calf ski ns 34 to Od per lb. Potatoes, white 8d t o 9d; plain 10d to 124. Guano—Peruvian, 10/ 10, to Ill; Ichabots to 91 Cs per ton. Tar—Archangel, 19s per barrel. 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London: Pr:nttd and Publ.l3h3d by titillDo YOUICU , G No. 112, Stra . un Office : nd, Printer, at Th e N o , 115! Strand, in th Precinct of the Savor, in the couilti of 'liddlesex, Wed4e4daYl U4Y 26,1652, Gilchrist, who described blunt-if as art's ,of Thavies'lnn• with havi ng o bt a i ne d 5001. and upwards under false pre tences. Mr. Letvia, of Ely-rents ' Holborn. attended fur the prosecution, Mr. Vallancefor the defence, and the case excited c)neidcrable interest. It appeared from the statement of the prosec utor that he had empl oye d the accused in conreyaucing when i t cccupied chamb ers N o. 4,. Verulam-buildinga, GM • Inn, and had other dealings with him. About twelve nrowhe ago the p r i soner called upon him and represented that he had a su i t i n Chancery, and that there were 9001 duo to his credit as taxed costs unencumbered, and if he (prosecutor) would advance him 5001. ac purchage-Imen e l it would enable hint to obtain the 900/., on which be would return the 500/. He had not since been paid the 500/, and found that the prisoner had not paid the money into court, that he had no power over 900/. is the COEn 4 of Chancery, and, having kept out of the wav until be wee traced he (witness gave him into the custody of T• Bristow, T 90, on the charge of ebtaieieg the 500/. hi false pretenc,!s. George Bonbow, clerk to Mr. Hall, solicitor, soled that there we r e t wo suits in the Chancery Court, "Beet and Badly," and "Richards and the ;i: former suit in 1818 a bill o f costs was taxed for S.l' The prisoner . vvc.s concerned in the cus=". It there.wei a stop-order he did nut think the prisoner knew aPI . thing of it. Mr. TYRWHITT, aftcr s p . .,:,ient hearin g of the case' said there was no evidence to warraut the prileee r a remand or detention. There ctu bt to be be evidence ; to there being a s t o p- or d er on the 9001. There. eras e° pretence fur the charge of obtaining money under 015 pretences. Mr. Lewis suggested that the prisoner might I ordered to put in his owe recognizances to appear future day, to gi ve an opportunity to produce widen as to the stop.order. TYitIYIIITT acceded, and the prisoner was 1041 , - s t over in th e sum of 5001. to appear again at this ah; o answer th e charge on Wednesday, the 2d of 'lll9- Thomas S m i t h , next. t t l ly in dr rim e o s ini s t e ea : b u e rt pretty-lookingpdaere parents, n n a young man of repulsive countenstlo h i n , c, t i v i2_ a l s str e ty hE a : r g ss e t d .OL y ualg A ,z; g a, n r e we i itt G i il s e vr.4n t y_ t l tii ; violated her. , L b It apps gyred from the evidence of the roaecutnz' on . Sunday night last she was Peking a P waik, 'A un t ) prisoner accosted her, and she walked with hitot br w - b r a l met him again by appointment on Monday she accompanied him to a concert at theinoingto°'''rls Arms, City•road, where she took part of a l' !so o f 61.0 with Fire. He then led her to a concert at %a 551ritie and Compas ses , P enton-street, Pentonville, w here ; 3 , took a portio n o f anot h er glass of ale, and kbortly afte r ' she hilt a stupor, and l e f t t h e place when thethrp Boner followed her. They walked together until arrived in a field. He said he would marry her, an d borne would set up te e bans. He pressed h er to go wit h him. She tri e d Co ge t away from hi m , w h en h e pu shed her down, and endeevoured to accomplish his p u rpose. She roisted him, and called out for "help," when the police arrived, and took the prisoner into custody. Sou that my fathet •By the prisoner —I did not tell ) and mother had turned me oat of doors. e• Joseph Smith, 336 5, s a id that yesterday mornin pf st near one o'clock, be heard the cries of "Murder," in woman's voice, i n Copenhagen-fields. He proceeded :o tho spot with another constable, and saw the prisontr and prosec u tri x s t rugg li ng on the groun d . Th e letter got up in an exhausted state and clung to his brother constable. She said, "Oh God! lam saved. P 01; me." They took th e p l i soeer i nto custody, whe't-',,n. begged to be let go , an d on t h e i r way to the stittly house ho offered :h em h a lf a sovere i gn to let gi% Mr. TYILWITITT inquired whet the prisoner prevent her s:reetning? Prosecutrix—He forced finger into my mouth. h The priso ner b egge d f or mercy, saying La, were both drunk at tee time. The officers denied this; they were both aober' for The Newt prisoner w as f u ll y committed to Ne ' trial.