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. toe, 4n which, w though he took the .Tudges in, Ile made no other preparation for their reception within his jurisdiction. The Order-was then discharged. Mr. BA:ft MO presented a - Petition from Mr. Joseph AI& lar, complaining-of-the conduct of Government in withholding from Wain fair remuneration for his services while the British Army was in Egypt. We were prevented, by the low tone a voce in.which the Hon. Member spoke, from collecting dis., tinetly the nature .of those services. He proceeded to observe, .that,Sir Sidney Smith, Lord Hutchinson, and others, had given , the Petitioner the most satisfactory certificates, notWitlistand log which the Government, after along delay, contented them selves with making him a grant °HOW., though they gave SI,OOOI. to a gentleman of the name of Baldwin. This seas the , more extraordinary, as Lord Hutchinson distinctly stated that -the Petitioner was the person who had rendered the greatest - services. Mr. CII UTCHINSON bore testimonyao -the servicee of ;the Petitioner. The Petition was then ordered to be laid on the table. Mr. C. MITCHEISON. presented a Petition from certain - Inhabitants of the Counties of Middlesen anti Surtsey. praying that the House would takelnto its cousideratioe the distressed state of the labouring Poor of Ireland, and place them in the same condition with the Poor of this country by the introduc. ,tion of• Poor Lava. Mt% DENISON thought that • the people of Surrey had sof fered too much from the Poor Laws themseleeS to recommend their adoption in another country. Ile was sure that it Was . far from being the generet wish of that county. Colonel DAVIES wished to know whether it As intended to extend to the Isle of Man ar t y, of the reforms whieltehad taken place in other parts of the Ismpire He yarti ,ttlarly to the office of Attorney-General tbr that place. Air. HSU. RTES said, that it was the intention to adept eco. tome., but denied that the office of A ttliravy..leiril was a - tinecure in tha: island. Alter tykes words from lilds Pen i e . Mr..:1300 titan, and two, the conversit an dropped. FOREIGN' POLICY. • Colonel PALMER, on thing to make his promised motion, began with stating that the motive which had urged him to ad }trees the /louse, was a conviction of the danger of the country, arising out of the conduct of the Government with respect to stspain, and the language of the late Address to hit Majesty • upon the subject. lie might naturally be asked, considering the protracted debate upon abet question, the 'reason of his not having stated his opinion at the time; and confessed that his ~reluctance to obtrude himself upon the attention of the House, joined to the expectation that the same opinion would have been felt and expressed by others more worthy their ettentiorf, bad prevented him In the early stage of that discussion, but that he _had repeatedly endeavoured to address the House upon the last night of the debate. Having then failed in such endeavour, and . the question bring equally, if not moreimportant to the'coun. try at the present moment, he would take the liberty of stating the different view which he had taken of it, front that of every I - ton.:Member who had hitherto spoken wenn the subject. it "peered to him that truth and sincerity were as necessary to the honour and interests of a nation as of an individual ; and upon this ground he contended that the late Address should have openly expressed the indignation of the Home at time con duct of France and the Allied Powers; because, by not ex pressing it, the nation was exposed to the elnuete of not feeling, or not tiring to avow it. He also contended that the Address s,houhl as openly have stated that inability of the country to tender Spain assistance, the only reason and excuse for with holding it,' instead of motives unworthy of her character and iyitirious to her interests, inasmuch its she had thereby depriv tat herself of all claim to that gratitude and ettachment on the part of Spain which a more generous conduct would have in. spired, and whose independence, at all times essential to Eng land, was at the present moment of vital importance to her interests, whilst on the other hand she bad aotallY failed in that object which the cold and timid policy of the Address was in:ended to answer ; for at the same moment, whilst as a nation ttos liouse had declined that expression of its feelings which ,• honour, truth, anti justice, called for, yet as individuals npon eider, they had spoken in terms much •more calculated to provoke the consequences which the language of the Address had deprecated, than the dignified censure which it ought to hn - re contained ; and lastly, whit 4t to conceal the real motives of neutrality they had avowed principles repugnant to every sgettetous feeling, and only calculated to confirm that unjust tropreation of Xngland, which the crooked policy of her (io vsrnuient had long stamped in the minds of Europe, it stood be: too plain upon the face of the whole transaction, that the conviction of her weakness alone, and the utter contempt of her tneane of resenting it, hail encouraged France and the Allies to dare to act as they had done. h e must admit, that from this feeling of necessity alone, it was almost the unani mous Opinion of the lionse and country that imam: should be niairite.thed; but did they not equally feel the danger, nay, the certainty of eventual war ; and nut its England ()light to con duct it, by her navy alone, but wherein, 'as Ministers had d m e cla" she would have to bear the whole burtheri, and incur again the same enormous, wasteful, anti unnecessary expendi. rare as in the former in tat ,,, — `ern to prokant tho dietresses of the landed and Atter interests, he could not but deplore the infatuation of the sareendholders in supposing, that n rise in prices, or any thing but a reduction of taxation, could possibly relieve !hon. Ile was sensible of the importance of their intereetta end that es she heart wee to the body, so was the agrictitture to time country, its vital principle, and the source from whence all its prosperity flu ; but as the heart was equally dependent upon the body, so was agriculture dependent uponeite other interests of the country, and could n t be eupported at their expense. ' Ile re r , Membered the sprri not the Chancellor of the Exchequer to Cie Country (lentllc In the last Session, who told them they I'ost not despair, because they could not here every thing al. ways as they wished, • but take their turn of good and evil with t caber Intereets (if the nation ; that, at the rime manufactures' Were at their lowest ebb, agriculture was in the full tide of prosperity—and now, Mace agriculeure had stink, manu facture!' had risen; RR if, like the buckets of a well, they ratan let one down to bring the other up. The comparison, h o wever, was unfortunately too just—for agriculture could not paseibly be raised by high prices without sinking the menu lectures ; and, unless both could be supported, he feared both %amid soon sink together. Looking, thens to these distresses, to the opinions and feelings of the people upon the subject, to unanswered and unanswerable arguments of the numerous Petitionsfar Reform, carried by acclamation in the Counties which presented them, and last, to .the enormous and minished hurthen of the public debt, now in the eighth yleir of peeees whet would be the titillation of the country - , alien called upon to renew the content, afar to enter again Siete - the o innus expenditure which Ministers had warned them to ex pect'? And yet, to this appalling but true picture of dis tress, their only answer, was, ,that I cing true, it was the best ftegument for --peace.; t 4 for if (pie, the Secretary for Foreign elAitir)t) Was the situation of the country, and yet it must r'i,i4roig'ar..soon Or late in God's name; let it he late, and tints the M inister s , already duped :•enti insulted, etaid to be kicked , leto. it, whilst frt their Addrean they talked of defendlins die Loam of the lhawn, and the righti and interests of' the Teople. But the House had been told, as another argument 4ar peace, that the interference of England would injure erpeso, by making-the war popular in • France; and it was to thlealie:r strongest and hitherto unenewered argnment be beg ged the attention of the House, because, upon it bung the whole question of the true policy of England at the present orieis, and which every consideration for the honour,' security, and best interests should lead her to adapt. Fig how came it, that the French nation, se indignant et the conduct 'of its Go vernment, that Ministers, in their /ate spe ?dies, had anticipated the most fatal coottequencea from what they had termed this act of' mednette in the Bourbons, should notwithstanding turn rpund, and join their Goverment against Spain, if England interfered in her behalf? -What, he would ask, was the rea son of this apparent inconsistency, but simply because such interference would b.! the act a t a Government, composted of nearly the same individuals, professing the same min , clples and treading the name steps as that Government Vphlch Wade war against the liberties of France at the cane. tnencement of her levalution, and co mJnued to be her con. itotit' and inveterate enemy from that moment until tha estaltlishinent of the itimphon dynasty'? Ilut if, instead of wit Government, a oOveraineatjairly reproioating the people of England, would declare war to-morrow, not against but for the lilit.tii('ll of France, which, whit her own, were now endangerad by the hose attack of one, or (upon the principle that thos: who permitted an injury were parties to the act) both their Governments upon the liberties of Spain ; such de. daration would in an instant rescue England from the burnt. diegrace, and danger she stood in, mid restore her to, •- tat proud footing amongst the nations of Enrope, which she once held as the defender of their liberties ; for England, by' (awl defending the liberties of Prance conjointly withlier own, would at once win the hearts of that nation, which, with her- Self, were unquestionably the greatest, most powerful, and en. aigleened nations of Europ,e ; and betwixt when the reel Honour anti intereets of each would beet be consulted by their Muteal friendship; although the policy of their Governmente ed hitherto prevented it, by estettsng elid keeping alive those jealousies and antipathies which however natural and ie. thtctive in the brute creation , w ere most unnetural, ahsurd, itrid barbarous betwixt Christia n States; and above all, these nations, who seemed by nature formed to cherish and pro. tc;Ct each Other—the one invincible upon that element, to yrhiCtn shot owed all her real greatness, whilst the other was tepidity powerful on her side; and .both of whom, combined, 'night defend not only themsolvee, but the whole world against tie tyrants who oppressed it. It was an old saying, when rogues fell out, honest men came by their due; and thus out of thedie. Fortes betwixt their Governments, it was to be hoped hen eople . rouhl 4t chtaio Omit As to Ow Govern 3, • though bCd•swas the West, 'the • contlnetrof the French Ministerswas infinitely more excusable than ems own; for it was but just to molder the difficulties of their situation, in having to support a•Csown not only forced. upon the nation, but which, from other unfortunate causes, required te mor e than constitu tional three to protect; and this situation, fon'it not of their own ' seeking, but to which they tied been fbrcerlieltk . inhere,- and above all, tine Ministers of England: For li' ; - ,q e, Power* as: sembled at: Ole Conatets, With . L ogle tul at their. a - .I, fluted Upon opposite principles tW • those adopted, and wit had brought Europe to it preient State, he firmly believed that France at this moment would be enjoying the inn bene fi t of her Char ter under the mild sway of the present Sovereign. -But-it was too late to regret the,patit, and - they had only to consider the best to he dime at ' present. He would then ask if any thing could be so Aid vantageous to themselves and the rest of Europe, as ' that France and England Should join hand in band to .protect the liberties of Spain ? and if. that...was ad mitted, he would ask again, what should prevent it ?:-Llbiin ordinary cases', wherein two partieS inthiettced by the same Motives, and looking to the same' Object, Were` prevented from acting in concert .by any nitenntlerstending, it wits only to remove such misunderstand.ng and bring them together; and was there ever ea eriorinuA .urt.-opportmulty . of bringing France and England. together es the preseno when Eng land, by this bold, .dechave, and generous Step, would at once root out from the Inetoro of , I.'rtinee 'every r•teetl tif that hatred - 1 • , anti jealousy which Mile had so Rung borne against this country, a , the cause of all the disaster, defeat, and humiliation she . had suffered', and above all that:indignity, which Yrenee never could forgive, until. Engiend had acknowledged her error, and expressed her regret .t'or the part she hatilaken in the transac tion, not by the SpeeelieS of individitals in that Ilinote, • but by her condu c t :is a nation--therestormion of the linitrhons. in saying this, he disclaimed all hostility to that ttnhappy ,family ; and in juSticeetosthepi ' must defend a continet which necessity alone had dictated, for the' ultra faction in France, the Holy Alliance, and ' above all, the Ministers of England, had com pelled them to the steps they had taken. A Noble Lord, in his excellent speech on a former night, had said, that trims a late • residence in France he had the best reasons for believing, that if England lied said " Na,'' France would not have dared to attack Spain ; bid the Notate Lord might have gone further, and told the ot*, that if England 'had acted as became her, and 'declared in favour of Spam,' the head Of the French Go. vernment, who was universally known to be a Liberal in his principles, and had no object so dear to his heart,• as the liber ties anti happiness of, his people ; would at once have thrown himself and people into the arms of England, and have called those Ministers to his Councils, Siho, in conjunction with England, might have set the Despot?' of - Europe at defiance. The folly and madness, not of the Bourbons, but of the Eng lish Ministers, bad prevented this, whilst the steps they had taken to avoid war, - were the most likely to lead to it ; for their only hope was, that France, by ruining herself in Spain, might be unable to annoy this country ; but even if it should be so, 'could any thing be more detestable than the policy of looking to the security of England in the misery of Vranee? His own feelings were quite the reverse, for, instead Of reducing France, now •in. so flonriehin g . a state, to the wretchedcondition of England, he woulti raise England to a level with France, and all the world if possible to the level of both. This , •watt the tftie'''poliey which humanity and the brst interests of England (Whited, and this was the moment for the Crown to exercise that prerogative which the Constitution had given it for the protection of ' itself And the people to save both from the destruction which threat-21104i then], for it was nut in the wretched hirers they had discussed, but in the speeches of the French Ministers:and the eorrupentejorities which hatl supported them, that the realelanger of England was to be seen. No One could look to their intentions openly avowed, the progress made in their execution, the pledges of the Allied Powers to . support France, and their insolent threats against Spain on - mie side, and on the olher to the noble de fi anee which Spain had hurled at her invaders, as well as the glorious straggle which • liberty was making against despotism in other quarters, with. out seeing that the present contest admitted of ne compromise, bet that one or other party met inevitably perish. It was therefore to save thole from becoming victims, -who were only the instruments of these lase plots against the liberties of - men- kind ; the acts not of themeelves, but of the weak or wicked Ministers who surrounded them; and to protect Crowns no well as people, lie appealed to the Members of that !louse, the Re presentative's of the only nation which through the blessings of her Constitution, was capable of the effort to declare in its cols lective wisdom those sentiments which as individuals hail lately done theneso 'much honour ; rind ne u nation to raise that mighty voice in freedom's cause, which might at once -des* the contest,'onit spare those sactitices by which the cause must otherwise be obtained ; for that it must ultimately triumph- no mantic common sense, whose judgment was not bitntled by his prejudice, could entertain a doubt of. It wits therefore not only for themselves, hut for those much dearer, and upon whom the consequences of the present destructive system must Inevitably.fall ; Mr their *egos, and in the name of that hu inanity which in a recent ease involved in delvers, doubts and difficulties on all eides, would. in Its zeal have Come down every obstacle, destroying even tiliDie it meant to save, but for the interference of the tieverninent, and that eloquence which, when exerted in the cause of reason, justice, and ottruth, carried conviction with it; he implored them tlien, in this in stance, to turn their eyes at home., und befriend the cause of f t iltli , rtosr I 14, in • I.l*oro r -, 1a. ., ~.kt.... Tr h LA% ir•••• , 1,,0 Ili, danger, doubt, Mir difficulty, • lint vilietein Illtlt• At ill) op:. pariah in the 'mime Of religion, morality, and soci a l order, had only to follow that plain precept, the essence of them all-- simply to do by others as themselves.; JilabY this preci.pt he called upon that IlOnse, the Representatives of the Nation (or, at least, who ought to represent it), to do by the people as themselves ; and to defend in their own honour and in teeests, the honour and interests of their emintry.. Nor was it the interests and liberties of England only, but of' all other nations, and ,with which the Ministers had at inst dis. Covered her usia to beldentified ; this great and glorious cause, 'the cause of liberty throughout the world, ' was in the hands of England, and if her Representatives would hint defend it, the victory was certain. The 'Honourable Mon her ctinld say much more, and state - how and by svimin such vietory swam to be obtained; for as to the present Ministers, whatever • their real feelings might • be (and' he cenfessed he was Unable to understand them, if they understood them selves), - as the advocates and sworn defenders of that system which had brought the country to its present . State, - and which in spite of all its statirin they still gloried in, and still at their public meetings. ple dged themselves to defend to their latest breath : in jiistice to their own consistency, and the feelings of the people, come what might, by their own syS UM they were bound to.stand or fall. Nor was it a.mere change of Minnitcre could Have the country, but a change of Ministers, combined with a change of measures which 'might enable them to apply the resources of the country, and the energies of the people to the relief of' their own burthens, without injory to the Constitution or injustice to the public creditor; for whilst he agreed 'entirely with his Noble Friend, who had:stated it was the debt, the cursed debt, which weighed them down, asiong as the country had the means of pesirg it, lie considered the property of the public' creditor to be equally littered with tint of every other description. lint who, he would ask, in the pre sent state of things, were the real friends of the - public cre ditor? Those who would adopt every possible retrenchment which the safety of the Constitution and real interests of the country would admit of, or the Ministers whose measures must inevitably lead to those consequences, which, looking to the French Revolution arising out of the same cause, nothing but a change of system could possibly prevsot ...ets to retrenchment, end all which the Ministers had been driven to, Session anti Session, by the exertions of their oppon ents, particularly the Honourable Member for Absnleen, Whose character mad services no one could estimate snore highly than himself, the only real advantage, the public had dent:Ll :froth them; had been to open their eyes to the imposeihility of any real retrenchment under. the present system, for all the savings gained by it were more than counterbalanced by ex ' posuree, which only increased the resentment of the pantile, the difficulties of the Ministers, and the necessity of all their power, 'patronege, and means of corruption to support their measures. The Hour. Member concluded with stating, that having availed - himself of the Opportunity 'to express his feelings on this im portant subject, he had no wish to take the Raise of the House upon the motion with which he should conclude, which was, faa topics of the instructions r isen to Sir Williant A'Court -for the direction of his conduct, in case any changes should lie' made by the Cortes, relative to the internal tlovernment of Spain, or of such Extracts as could be efforded.; without detri ruedt to the Public Service. • Mr. HUME seconded the motion, which was negatived with. out a division. CHIEF BARON fralt.l.l)V. The Order of the Day was road for resuoiing ih debate upor ate relative to the Conduct of the I :hief Baron. The SPEAKER h:tvingVeaci ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ment thereon moved last night, Mr. S. It It; ?Am ieti the resolution alto] retl i cr. Mr. SCAItI4I, T thought the proceedings were in such a state that the liousexould not only not come to a vote of censure against the Chief Ramo, but that they could take no further steps in the business.. lie thereforerecommended its postpone. ment alt3geeier.. The SPEAKER then said, the original motion was Th at it is stated in the filth Report of the - 00111111iNsiiniers that it is not their province to discuss' how fur, or within what 'Arnim, tits Judges of the. clperint courts of law are uuthorixed to establish new or increased tees fir th,ir own services ;* but that it will be seen, from the table subjoined (to their Report), that a ills. cretion of this nature has, in fact, been exercised to a considera.. ble extent, at Some period or periods, within the la.t lOU years; and that, during the time of the present Chief JOstice of the cvnmop y3ni, - $11:11 an 'et mist. of judicial authority appe4rs to I 'have occurred in three 'instances;" ; since which an amend ment had been moved,- to leave out the words*" And that, during' the time of the present Chief Justice of the Common Pleas, - such an exercise of judicial authority appears to have oc curred in three instances:" the question, therefore, he had to, put was, ", That the words proposed to be left out stand part' of the question ;" which wag carried - in the negative,; conse quently the amendment was agreed to. • -• ' 31r. said, that certainly the mode proposed by his Learned Friend (Mr. ScaLlett) was the mist convenient anti' expeditious way- of getting rid of the question altogether; And he would leave it to those who advised sittlfitcourse. who were willing; that Judges should exercise the power which was cen. slued by the Commissioners in their report, to take the whole responsibility of the proceeding on themselves. He should move:lts nn amendment to the 'Resolution,- <;-*, but that it is not stated in the aforesaidlnh Report, that those fees were taken for the Judge's own emolument." • ' - Mr. SCAR LErr opposed the amen din on - , as containing a sting which the circumstances of the case did not justify. The SOLI CI TOR -OE NERA Largtied that the amendment was not in 'unison with the report. , ' • Mr. S. RICK contended that it was. • _ _ . . Mr. It. S3I ITH could neither approve of the original motion tu►r of the amendment. The former contained a fallacious apology fox the Chief Baron, the latter implied a censure. L-e - Both the one and the other was a departure from the express • 'understanding of the House, which was, that no opinion should •he expressed on the case at present. ie felt itiMself incom petent to decide on the question either one way or the other at this time. lie could not, on looking at the report, and at the Chief Baron's defence, declare hint to be innocents but it was inipossiMe for him to pronounce an opinion on the subject on almost the last day of the Session, and without sufficient infor- Minion. The case ought to rest until the ensuing SeSsion. Capt. O'OIIADY defended the conduct of the Chief Baron, who, he contended, had made out a good case, both with re. krenee to law and usage. lie might, undoubtedly, have been Mistaken in his view of the subject ; but it eild not theretbre follow that he was culpable and corrupt. • lie (Capt. Olirsuly) was most anxious that the decision of the !louse should be giecn in the present Session. Mr. PEE!, could see no benefit that was likely to accrue from postponing the question to another session. If it were put off fur six months, would they, in 1112.1, (when their recollection of the facts would he weakened, and when they would not be able to command a more numerous attendance of members than at present), be in a better situation for deciding than they • were at present If this practice of regulating fees were en improper one, it would be better he thought, to bring in a Bill fbr its abolition, rather titan harrass and Condemn an individual by keeping a series of criminatory resolutions suspended over his head. • Sir 11. P:111 NELL said, as it was distinctly understood that the 'investigation was to he renewed in the next session, he had • taken no part in it. • For the same reason, lie would not support the present resolution. Ile should oppose any thing that looked like La decision on the charges ; and he would refrain ' from offering an opinion on them. Lord.A. HAMILTON understood that no resolution but of • facts was, to he placed on their journals; and that eitrunietance kept many Members away who would otherwise have been pre. I sent. It was, he admitted, must irksome, that a Judge should ' have charges hanging over him, while he was exercising his ju. &cid functions. lint a•hose 'fault was that ? The fault of the licritlinium opposite. The delay came entirely front the other side of the !louse. Ile would ask those (lentlenien who wished to set the question at rest now, whether a decision, atiOpt ed 'at such a period Of the Session, and in such a !louse, etituld carry any weight with it ? Mr. C. lIUTCIIINSON said, he had all edong declared, that he was ready to go • on with this inquiry, provided the House wonld come to the, plain proposition of acquittal or condemn- Lion. 1 1is . lion. Friend (Mr. S. nice) had, po ho: t :e u v le e , r i , t :: e ur i sz , l e ; . t course. which, appwed to him. o be most unfair to the Irish public and to the. Chief I won. l ie had int until he caused to be entered on the ,journal:: a series of what he vaned resolutions. of fact. but which contaitteil matter of crimi. nation. li e w a s oropinion,tha.t: the question should .he put an end to now, because ite did riot believe his lion. Friend het/ any intention of bringing: it tbrwarl next Session. If he meant to. stitute any altetior proceeding, lee him prase those tesolutions, which did not salve:ice his purposeottejot. :Etc believed the (Add Baron to be innocent..• It the q uestion were to he considered, it would be .found 101 l of difileolty ; and in the end he matt sure they wouh) have to acquit the - Chief Baron altogether. At all events, if they discovered an error of judgment in his con. duet, he was convinced they would acquit him of corrupt mu. Oyes, He could not therefOre consent. tiott those resolutions, which were of a eriminatory character, should be suWered to bans* over the head or thecl u idltaron.. , „Air, WYNN thought it would tic better•to pass the two Re solutions now before them in the first place ; and afterwards to proeced to the third. The lino. Resolution, after is few words from Mr. CAN. /No, was then agreed. to without opposition. • Mr. scAn.LETT then roue, and observed that after a mas tare consideration _of the subject fictive the•llouse, he had conic to that conclusion that •he bed prepared certain Resointions which he had intended to move by way of amendment on the original liesolutions. After what had pissed, however, he would content , tumor wite.u„eum. one of them only, name. ly, " Thai• this I louse dies not think it necessary, under all the , vreunistanees that' have been stated, to adopt any proceeding regrtrdhi to the condneeof the Chi e f B aro n o f Ireland." Mr. WYNN . felt .hiniself com . pelled to oppose this llcsolo tiotl of his Ilon and Learned. end. The question here wax, able fees, asatiuting that drat could he, proved, ought to be continued in the hlt h aituatic►n which he `occupied in the judi eial administration of his country ? Now when such a question was to he deetoled, it was surely imperative T in lien tliciltletritcy of ; toin stituto . strict and itimittliate inq u i r y.. Jitdg,:. Bk . ?, the chast:ty of a Wom an , or the courage of :t wiry a matter of that delirate nature that it ought to be above all question or suspicion ; and •t!::s. being the ease, - it made no ttilrevelleo to the importance of the necessity of the inquiry, whether the excess in the fees charged by the Chief Baron was confined to so'many pence or to many pounds. The Right Gentientan,then adverted to the reports of the Commis sioners of Inquiry, and animadverted on the conduct therein imputed to the Chief Baron, to which charges that J Aro tad not hitherto off;:rtd such a defence as ought to preclude „die House from tclopting some ulterior proceeding. Mr. A itlt.l.l:l:in BRIDGES was decidedly for immediate in vestigation. Ile thought further delay in every respectinex • . • Peedit'etplitt,,t;llll:i..ll6l:ll'.."r.said, that • the fact .was, that the .Cluet Baron's defence, as contained in his second letter, was founded on mattsts eentainetl'in a report which had not been publislictl when his first letter was written. • it would be a little too hard ctir with the lion. and Learn en Mem. IbiFtit,ri:iftilnitirmatter of imputation against the Chief Baron t}itit he the hurry or his first letter, • that a decree which was in fact :►n e. plification. It was not, therefore, a new defence which was .contaitied in second letter but a defence on new the Report made subsequently to his former let^r. Mr. IS'N'NN shortly explained. tit:ME (as we understood) expressed his unwillingness, after the letters °fete Chief Baron, to support the original reso lutions, *lll.l Ile had artiest telt inclined to advocate. • :,V I Mr ' 4 " 1 II:R ELI. was of opinion that the House should came to some conclUsion this session on the subject before them ; and, looking to the painful and disastrous situation in which further dclay l imist , leavc the Chief Baron, and seeing no case made out, he woithl sppport the amendment proposed by his lion. Friend (31r. Simko.) Mr. It. MARTIN d e f en d e d t h e Chief Baron, and expressed his intention of supporting; the resolution of the lion. and Leaned 111 ember for Peterborough. Mr. 11. GURNEV proposed, as an amendment necessary to lead that of the Member for Peterboroug'i, that the tlinise lotions s l iNAVlntti . tintaitted in these words*" That the receipt of should agree to so much of the substance of the original Rest). fees by the' J4d ge , of ( 4, 0t ,, t 4 of cni... Law and of Exche quer in Ireland liii been recently abolished by law." This amendment was, after a few words from Mr. IL Saill . ll, imMediately - adopted, * and the question was then put on the amendment proposed by Dir. Sc "'LETT' 31r. 3'l. W1 1, 1 , 1r11118 said he could by no means support the amendthent o r his Hon. and Learne d Fri e nd. Mr. G 01.11,1111 ICI t h ou ght no case of er.tmlnalitY or cor ruption was M a d e out pednst the (Thief Baron, though his con itivtilieitizi.ight not h ave ' a.en q uite as well advised as could he Mr.( !, ce ntl ed n i l r it g t 6 ed wi t l l i l c al hewn chiefly had ' , . , fL ) e t c ' t I I i Nt t a d kN i e f li fi N c i ti l li ma t o rttel it e n b t l i rt o i ue v til eit r‘ i i i i i tel ii ‘.tv i l i i:e r l g e i s ti p 0 1°1 eu n Pm s er i ° L i 1 i t. y en having instrumental to persuading the Iltinourable Mem ber tar Limerick to adopt resolutions of tact merely, and not to embody any thing in them which was only matter ot opinion. III: knew nothing of the Chief Baron ; nothing had ewer occurred to i nduce L i eu to waste a thought Upon that g reat personage. But his impr:ssion of the importance of the charge and the natur e could be mad? the. grobtal don Addi'm to of their progress. the could not concur in any vote tending tie removal, or of Of the proof had been weakened at every seep an ace..ipitioll by the Crown for his his censure, nor could the [louse assent tunny resolution which ' • Mr. C. II UTCII 1 NSO N concurred in the opinion of the way of inmeaehinent. Eight Hon. Secretary, that the Chief Baron mild not be in culpated by any thing Ni'hieli had Om under the observation of the Committee.. Mr. S. RICE felt satis6ed that, however the House tbight decide, the labours'of the Comniitte would not be hist is he public. A 4ivision took Vince — For the Resolution - - - Against it - - Majority - The'Lancoidi County Court," f 1& was read a third thee. ' The House resolved liSelf into a mittee on the NEW SOUTH- WALES */. :DICTION BILL. Mr. PEEL proposed arfametiftl C se, the object of wh I 'was; that the confirmatiodt,of aiardOns anted to convicts by the 14oYernor of New' South ks shoUld'be confined to that cot!titry. Sir JAMES MACKINTOSH opposed this clause and cont-nded that the confirmation ought to be as full as possibl:.. After a conversation between Mr. Wilmot; Mr. Forbes, Bright and Mr. - 11. Gurney, the clause was agreed to. The house then resinned,'“ful the Report was ordered to be received to-morrow (this day.) The other Orders of the I)ay were then disposed of, and the L House adjourned at lIAF T r-rAsoitEE O'CLOCK. A LIST OF THE MINORITY Who voted against .411 r, Scarlett!s Resolution, that under all the circumstances stated in the preceding Resolutions, it vas not expedient to proceed further in the case of Chief Huron O'Grady. . . lirottgl unit, Henry Lamb, Hon. G. NVigram, W. Millie Colonel Money, W. T. It'illiams, J. hlorland, Sir S.B. Canning, II t. 1111.11. Palmer, C. F. TEt.t.Etts. Forbes, C'. Parnell, Sir 11. Smith, H. Gordon, H. Taylor, M. A. Mee, 'l'. S. J. IX. NVynn, Ht. 11n. C. . ~ , ; •, ,f ;, , ,r, ~ .- fa 0 ti 0 t&V,...';';..., 'o' .. - rt. ~... ~.,.. ” % ....-„ 4..1„ , f k /11 4 ., (l ik -44 1TN 1 IV \-11. 31:1s1)NIC NOTICBS.,FOR NEXT NirEtK.' 4oadv, July rit, tosi)os: Nos. 40. 100, 143, 241, :119, :129, 335. CousTity. Nos. 131, 243, 320, 37134 433, 473, 517, 536, 546, 570. 576, 701 ! Tuesday, 15, liosnox.' Nos. :13. 42, 2136. &UUNTRY, Nov. 127, 151, 167, 170, 18-1, 1: 4 9, 3135, 532, 544, • - 551. Weduesday, 10, Los nom. Nos. 36, 40,.92, 134,2 247 4 274, 296, - 399. • - Co 1.7 NT It V. Nos. 95, 105, 124, 12b, 146, 207, 229, 339, 342. 46.1, 4671, 480, 487, 329, T,Ol, 678, 704, 711. Thursday, - 17, Lostnos. Nos. 85, 128, 152, 388. tuus Tit v. N. 48, 70, 113, 171, 214. 288..416,• 453, 406, 469, 511, 5111, 560, 561, 042, 079. - rridny, - 18, Los:Dos. No. 4133. CovN '1 It Y. Nos. :tit. 55, 193, 470, 550, 600, 640, 655, 709. Saturtl:l, - 19, Lo Nitos. • • • Cou 'II Y. Nos. 64, rei 4' • SPI Fl E LDS ACTS. On Tuesday the Lords' Committee, to n how the Silk Manufacture Bill, to repeal the '' tipi talflelds Acts" was referred, closed their labours. T heir Lordships then pgreO to the Report which was to be presented to the house ; it was to the following effeet : r 4---" That their Lordships' Cent. atittee had examined the allegations of the se veral Petitions regarding the Bill ; that they had heard Counsel_ against and for the Bill ; that they had also at great length examined witnesses on the part of the opposers, as well as of the sup porters of the Bill ; that their Lordships' had afterwards duly considered the arguments and evidence so adduced ; and they thereupon agreed that the Bill be reported to the House without any amendment." inch report was yes. terday presented to the House by Lord Bexley, read, and ordered to lie upon the table, and the Bill was of course reported 46 without any amend ment." The Bill thus remains precisely what it was :previous to its being referred to the Com mittee,—The third reading was not fixed. It was agreed amongst their Lordships that a day for the third reading should not be named till the evidence taken before the Committee was printed and in the hands of their Lordships. It was ascertained that the printing, as the evidence Will occupy four or five htindred folio pages, will not be completed till Saturday, so that there was little chance of its getting-generally delivered to their: Lordships till Monday.. It thereupon became the understanding amongst their Lord ships. that the' third reading- should be named on Monday or Tuesday next..-=rhe Jour neymen Weavers, having' understood that the Committee had closed their inquiries and delibe. rations, yesterday assembled around the House of lords in great .numbers, in the expectation that something would he done with the Bill--that, in fact, the third reading would be moved. Though the ernivtla were Very considerable, quite is nu merous as on any former day, they behaved with all their accustomed decorum, preserving pas sage-ways for their Lordships' carriages to ap proach the Peers' entrances. The 'Weavers, on the present occasion, exhibited large printed pla cards, setting forth that 44 The Jourueymen Weavers earnestly, but sincerely, implore the Lords not to pass the Bill." The , men re mained till late in the aftermion, when, having ascertained that nothing was to be done on the Bill, they quietly and rapidly dispersed. THE FIFE CAUSE. The Lotto CllAXenr.r.oll proceeded yesterday, in the Home of Lords, to the consideration of this ease,yrefac ing a speech, which lasted two hours, with the observation that his statement on that day would be confined to an examination of the facts of the case, difficult and important as it is ; and these he should allude to by reference to the various printed papers which were given into the Court of Session, whose jud ment their Lordships are reviewing. On Friday their Lord ships would consider what it shall be fit to do in regard to the documents in - the cause. Whether any course of proceeding tits op6n, its a wholesome mode by which more satisfaction mid be atlbrded by remitting the cause back to the Court of Session ; and whether, consistently with statutes so qua lifying, any more general issue, - with a view to the proof that the:deeds were or were not those of Lord Fife Lordship, in a clear and luminous manner, referred to all the steps of procedure; from the summons, down to the Interlocutors of the Court ; and the able deduction his Lordship miule. went in the main to a reiteration of all the statements made on a former day, as given above. lie dwelt much upon a circum stance which had not been sufficiently attended to—the .deed of alteration, in November. 18011, a month after the execution of the trust deed and deed of entail, such alteration imply ing, as he thought, that the late Earl of Fife knew and un derstood their contents. This was of great importance; he referred to the diff*erent Scottish Statutes, 1540, 1579, ; and observed, that it must be decided, whether Lord Fife, blind as he was, or nearly so, was such a man as came under the Mean ing of the Statutes,•as a Man who could not write; and a‘z such, requiring Notaries; and whether acknowledgment of sub scription • to one witness, was not equal to seeing suhacrip. tinn adhibited. ills Lordship referred to cases in Eng courts bearing on this; dwelt much on the ques:1011, on whom the proof of execution of the deeds lay—Whe ther on the User or Challenger of the deeds ; and to the at testation of subscription, stating die fact, how the deeds were executed, and whether more ought to be. required. There was no fraud charged in this case. On Friday his Lordship would consider the different points as to Notaries being ne cc sass, ,imperatively t —reading over - the deed, whether Statu tory solemnity on • whom proof of reading over justly lies ; and various other weighty considerations, previous to deter mining (It' a wholesome mode still lies open, of gaining greater satisfaction as to the evidence in the cause) -what that mode shall he ? On that, he felt much difficulty.-- Ii is Lordship concluded his litminou - S Address, by observ ing, that, although its petting, as he sincerely does, the Scottish .Nudges, he limes felt hound to reverts. many of their decisions ; yet, that was done, actuated by sense of duty and justice to his country alone. In...end of altering the Law of ScOtland.: he had declared what that taw was. The law of that country might, in form, in ninny instances, he altered advan tageously, though not in substance—this never was his inten- Lion, and never could be his wish. Those who thought sv did hint injustice; th.y were mistaken.—The Earl of Fife was present during the delivery of his Lordship's speech; to which his Lordship paid very anxious attention. The Cause trill be further considered on A letter, dated Berlin, 21th ult., says," the two Chinese who were sliewn here last winter for money, by Mr. .1415T11.% u4cs, of Holland, have been bought free by his Majesty the KINt, who intends sending them to the University of Halle, where they are to study the different European languages, with a view to their being enabled to teach the same to their countrymen on their re turn to China." We have reteived the Park Paperi of Mon day. The following are tlio only wick-. a military intelligence which they contain:— Ext. , itoNs or SEtr, JUNE 27.--Two heralds were stet II the Commander of the forts, to summon him. to surretaki. The first, a Spanish Officer, was compelled to return by. threats of being find upon : the second, Colonel de Roquemaurel, Aid-de-Camp of Baron d'Eroles, was admitted. baring the interview, which was not of long duration, the band of the regiment of Majorca played the air Tragela. Yesterday two spies of Mina were brought into this city, on whom were found d'spatehes for the Governor of the fort and for the principal Officers of the garrison. The troops forming the blockade daily occupy the same positions. It is generally supposed, that after the harvest is cut. and carried home, there will be left before this place not more than 4,000 men, Ertract of a Letter from Pamialuna, June 28.)—A hut,. sar has just arrived in our camp, who, after falling into the power of the besieged, afterwards escaped, and rejoined our sentries under the fire of many of the 'Spanish guards. Me informs us that the garrison of Pampeluna Is composed of only. GO horsemen and about 3,000 infantry, half of whom belong to the militia. The Government greatly distrusts this last body, to that it never employs them outside the citadel. They, not withstanding, p er f orm t h e i r d uty w i t h gr eat repugnance, many of them having alr ea dy d eserte d, w hile each day brings to our eavt , p entire detlehMents.—There are mote than 300 tif9"4l°e4 PA It LI E N rItOCE};DING. Ors CollstOXS. Mercurii, W die Mild, 1823. Air. SPEAK Ea reported the Jtoral .ANNent —to Llttcries BM ? Ilarilla Duties Dili, Disonbotiied 31ilitia Bill, and Instil- rections ( Ireland) Bill. COAL. T t: - Petition from I fatileigh (Suffolk), against the Duties on ('oals carried coastwise. NAVY- SU ROl:ONS—Petition of Elizabeth Simpson, Widow of an Assistant-Surgeon in the Navy, praying that the Wi dows of AssistanuSur b .reons in the Navy may be placed on the same footing as the Widows of Assistant-Surgeons in the Army. Co7-tx GENERAL SESSIONS ESTATES—Mynor's, and Sheffield Ilospiud Matta Inors—St. Petersburgh LINEN MANUFACTURE (Ireland) 14.swcasT COUNTY "COURT Imsot.v.EsT Mai - FORS' Act A MENDM ENT Pooit (Ireland)--,Petitiop of Inhabitants of Middlesex and Surrey, recommending 'totes to be levied for the relief of the Poor in Ireland. PENITENTIARY—BiII " for authorizing the temporary removal of Convicts. from the General Penitentiary," read a first and . second time, and committed for to-morrow (this days. MESSAGE. FROM Tim Lonus—That they have agreed to Equalization of:thities liiU, Land Tat Commissioners Name • Bill, Building of Gaols Bill, Court of Chancery (Ireland) Bill, Post Ilorse Duties .Bill, Prize Money Distribution Bill, and London Dock Company's 13111, .without amendment and to Passage Vessels Regulation Bill, and Polyhead an d • Ilowat Harbours Bill, with amendments t and to. Amend • merits to Lords' amendments to Prisons Bill. Bills read a third tune, utldTwiscd. NOTICES OF MOTIONS for TIIIS DAY. 1. Colonel Davies—Manner in which French Indemnity has been applied by Government. 2. Mr. Hume—Copy Of all Correspondence between the Co lonial Department and the , Committee of British Mer chants at Malta. respecting the Quarantine, and other re gulations of the Commerce of that Island. 3. Mr. Hollord—Papera relating to - the General -Penitentiary (Milbank). ORDERS of the DAY for THIS DAY. I. Slave Trade Consolid ation Bill—Third .Reading. Newfoundland Acts....-Report thereupon. 3. East India 3lntiny Reading. 4. Law Expenc,:s (Ireland) Beading. 5. Marriage Act Amendment Bill—Third Reading. G. New South Wales Jurisdiction hill—lte port. 7. Scottish Law Commission lint—Third Reading. it. Usual Sessional Addresses,--Cozumittee chercupon. 0. Penitentiary Bill-Committee. •Nucr 0: O.‘Y AT- F STOCKS omit O..CGOCK• Bank Stock 3 per Cent. lied. 1124i 3 per Cent. C0n5..:.31U ex div. 31 per Cent 4 per Cent. 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