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degree of .mental infirmity, recover ?—A. I have . seen persons as old as his "Majesty recover, after, I th;rl:, longer duration of the disease than the pre se 3tt _ • Q.- After as many repeated attacks as his Majes ty has had ?—*Withresped to the number of attacks, I haVe had occasion, ir, hospital practice; to see per sons:who hay.- vole through a long life, occasionally subject to attacks of, this kind;, I have known per sons' attacked t , m, twelve, or more times, and re cover from each of those attacks. Q. And die of age at last ?—A. Yes. Q. Not in a state of insanity cannot imme diately recollect instances. but I believe I may ven ture to say, that I have known some die of other disease, and not in a state of insluity. Q. Their -last attack. having come upon them at the age his. Majest y -has now attained ?—A. That is hazarding a great deal; it would require time and reference to records to answer that question; but I certainly have seen patients as old and much older than his -Mjesty, recover from attacks of this kind. " • _ _ _ __ . _ Q. You say that you consider his Majesty's. re covery as improbable ?—A. I do. Q. You say you have known persons as old as his Majesty,,and labouring under an equal degree of mental derangement, recover ?—A. Yes. . I Q. Then will do you think his nijesty's reco very improbable ?—Because the number of recoveries of persons of thAt age is very small in compariSon with the number of recoveries of those that are younger ;"-the instances of recovery become less in the advanced periods of life. In St, Luke's Hospi tal we find that io be so much the case, that for the last three years, it had been resolved to admit no person above the age of seventy; before that, we were not restrided . in point of age; and in the course of ouout thirty years there had occurred (for I look ed over the reports) about seventy-eight instanCes of ,persons of seventy years of age and upwards, who bad be..o admitted, and of that number only about sixteen had been discharged from the books of the Hospital as cured ; whereas, taking the whole num ber of patients during that period, the number amou t.trg to above six thousand, about one lialf or very nearly hall,. beive recovered, but only oile,patient in five of that advanced ae have reco vered _ Q. -Is nqi the state of his Majesty's constitution and general:health remarkably strong, consis:ering the period of his lite I—A. His' Majesty's consti tution is so, good, that I should rate him as a mail of sixty, in point of health, now at this mo ment. Q. Have you perceived I Ittr!rly any symptoms of improvement in his Majesty's n.;2ntal health ? --A. I have thought, for tire last mtiflh, his Ma jesty detailed atcdote, and seemed to listen to what was said to him by those about him rather more than he .lid at the beginning of my attendance. Q. Do you consider that any marerral symptom of improvement i—A. I have thought it rather a fa vourable.sign. _ 'Duthe symptoms of_ his Majesty's present dis order differ in any respect, and in what, from 'hose which.you had an opportunity of observing when you attended his Majesty in his illuess in 1804 ? A. The state of his Majesty's ideas is very different from w hat it wos in - 1804 ; tire fact is, that the symptoms - of menial disease must be in a great de gree.the id.-:as of the patient ;it is not like a bodily disease, you can judge the state of a man's mind only from the ideas he gives fOrth, and they are in many .respects very different from what they were when I attended his Majesty before. - - Q. Do the differences which you observed in his his. Majesty's present and past state lead you to form conclusions more or less unfavourable to his ultimate recovery ?—A. More. unfavourable. Q. Have you ever discovered any symptoms of fatuity in his Majesty's case i—A. I have not. Do you, on account of the absence of that.symp tom, think less unfavourably of his Majesty's reco very ?—A. More favourably. Q. Have you ever been in the habit of classing the different descriptions of mental disorders I—A. That is a matter of so much difficulty, that I have not attempted it any more than the • common _ dis tinclion of mania and melancholia, low spirits, and high spirits, or more or less of irritability. Q. Do you conceive the loss of sight in his Ma jesty would have any effect in retarding or accele rating his recovery, or rendering it more or less pro bable?—A. The number of cases of blind persons that I have met with, who have been insane, h as been very small; they do n.,t amount to more than seven or eight; they have been all of them unfa vourable cases ; and it is dltfieult to say what effect blindness may have, with respect to the treatment of an insane person ; in [some points, it may be fa- Vourable, but in general- one would suppose it was rather unfavourable. You cannot guide and manage the patient so well as if he could see. Q. Do you mean by unfavourable cases, cases in which the patients did not recover i—A. Yes. Q. Do you conceive the reflection upon his regal • State, when his Majesty's mind is in a state or pro gress towards recovery, might have aey'effeet w hot ever in. retarding or accelerating that recovery ?—A. His Majesty has appeared to retain 'a consciousness of his regal stale, and that seems to helve given a pc . culiar-lemure to his disorder, and makes it in some degree different from that of an ordinary case ; but I should find it vet) , difficult to say how far that would retard or promote his recovery ; it makes the case rather more difficult to conduct. Q. Have the goodness to,state, whether you con sider. his Majesty s perceptions as clear and distinct i —A. His Majesty's perceptions, with resp'ect to any obje&S that are presented to him, are correCt, but he has a number of ideas floating in his mind that are extremely erroneous; but he judges of the ohje6ts immediately around him, his food and those things, with great precition ; speaks of the good ness of a dish, whether he likes it or not, and knows every thing presented to him : so far his perceptiun is correct. Q. Does his Majesty's memory appear to be at all atfected i—A. His memory is firm and good. a. Do you draw any inference from that circum f.tance., with rchpea to the probability or improba bility of recovery ?—A. That is certainly a favour able c.rcumstanue. [Withdrew. LONDON : Printed by 11-OM AS WOOD, of No. 35, Maiden-lane, Covent-garden ; and Published by WILLIAM ARMICER SCRIPPS, South M At the SUN Outcp, No, 112, Strand, where Advertisements, Orders for the Paper, Letters for the E('itor, &c. (poytlaid; Lump, 13° d;e Januarii, 18 12. The Right • Honourable CHAT:LES LING in the Chair. Dr. Sir HENRY HALFOXID, Bart.. called in, and examined. a. Is the state.of his Majesty's health such as to render him incapable of coming. to person to his Parliament, or rff atieniing to any kind of public business .1( is such a, !_cr fender him incapable of coming to his Parliament, or of attending to any kind of public buiiness, Q. What is the present state of his Majesty's bodily. health ?—A. Not good, by any means. Q. What is the present state of his Majesty's mental health %---Extremely disordered: Q. Adverting to the state of his Majesty's bodily and mental bealth,.slice your' last examination be fore a Committee of the House of Commohs, are you now of opinion that his Majesty's recovery is probable or improbable ? A. Improbable.. Q. In what degree do-you consider it as impro bable Very imprObahle. Q. Are you of opinion that his nijesty's reco very is hopeless ?—A. No. Q. On what do you found the opinion that his Majesty's recovery is not hopeless, though very im probable ?—A. It is very improbable, - from 'the charaaer of his present s) mptotns ; horn the dura tion of the disorder, and from his Majesty's ad vanced period of life, but above all from the, in fluence of . his Majesty's peculiar situ tion and cir cumstances, upon . his irritable constituti , n : but his Majesty's faculties of perception and memory are not impa'red. a. When► did . you - first fprm an opinion that the recovery of his Majesty k‘as very improbable ?—A. In the beginning of July last I thought it impro bable; and the continuance of his symptoms since that time has made it very improbable in my opinion. Do you expe6l that his Majesty .will recover ? —A. Ido not expe6l that he will recover. • Q. Is his Majesty in a stale to converse upon publid affairs ?—A. Certainly not: Q. Has therebeen any period since your last ex. arnination . when his Majesty's life has appeared in immediate danger;—A. No. Q. Is there any such danger existing now ?—A. I think there was not when I left Windsor on Sa turday ; but Lhave,reaion to think that within the last four and twenty hours the. King has not been so well. • - Q. Had any fresh accession of disorder taken place before you left Windsor, on Saturday; or had you reason to apprehend that it was coming on )--- A. His Majesty was under circumstances to make one rather suspeef ►hat it 'was coming .on, than that it h id established itself. Q. Could you ascribe the aggravation of the symp toms that was cowing.on, to any particular ce.use ? —A. No. Q. Is his Majesty's bodily health more impaired now than it was six months ago ?—A. I do not think Q. Is his. Majesty in a worse state of .bodily health than he was when you were last examined? —A. No. Q. Have you observed any signs of amendment in his Majesty since the beginning of December ? A. There have been several occasions on which the violence of his Majesty's disorder appeared to be so far abated, and mind seemed so far cleared up as to admit of his detailing anecdotes of past times ac curately, but not to exercise a sound judgment on present circumstances. Q. Since the beginning of December, has big Majesty shewn generally more disposition to convers ation ?—A. His Majesty has frequently shown him. self rather more capable of conversation. • Q. Has his Majesty, in any of those conversa tions to which you have referred, adverted to the circumstances of his own situation ?—A. Yes. By watching the, turn of his Majesty's thoughts, and the remarkable energy of his expressions, it is obvious that his mind has been deeply stricken 4 the super session of his authority. I think it is i nportant to state this, because it has a greater weight in deter mining the opinion which I base fornled as to the great improbability of his Majesty's recosery, than the particular symptoms °flits complaint. - • [Withdrew. Dr. JOHN \\rums, called in, and examined. Q. Is the state of his Majesty's health such as to render him incapable of corning irtperson to his Par, liament, or of attending to , any kind of public business —A. His Majesty is incapable of doing tit her. Q. What is the present state of his Majesty's bodily health His Majesty's health I have thought somewhat improved since I saw his Majesty first, - Which was the gth of Dauber; but not wiibin the last week. Q. What is the present state of his Majesty's mental health ?—A. There is a very Teat degree of derangement, and particularly bordering on insa nity, having very much tine m e symptom of insanity ; at the same time rather unusualiy, and occasionally with delirious characters: .Cl, Adverting to the state of his 11/13jesty's men tal and bodily healib during his present incli,posi don, as far as it has come under your observation,are you of opinion, that his Majesty's recovery is probable or improbable ?—A. Very inprobabie. Q. Are you of opinion, that his Majesty's re covery is hopeless ?—A. No, certainly not, hope -les4. Q. On what do you found your opinion tlyit his Majesty's recovery is not hopeless ?—A. I think it has not arrived at that fixed point, at which cases generally are hopeless; it has not so decidedly that fixed character of ins inity to render it hopeless.. Q. Do you expect that his Mijesty will recover ? —A. No ; I do not expect that his Majesty will recover. Q. When did you (rave Windsor I—A. This morning. Q. What was his Majesty's state at the time you {eft Windsor ?—A. A tery indifferent state. Q. Is it worse than it was last week ?--A.• Yes; I think it is certainly worse than it was last week. Q. Has there been any aggravation of symptoms within the last three days I—A. I think there hat ; they have bordered more on the symptoms o f de. perltaps not to a greater degree than I have seen since the gih of O&ober, but, as convaled with ten days or a fortni4ht before, there was then a better appeArarnee. From the ,9111 of Odober to the 23d of November, 1 saw his Majesty only three days. Q. How often cti you visit his Majesty now ? A.. I have been resident at Windsor ever since the 18th of November, with the interval of the last week ; I returned on Saturday. • ' _ Q. There appears, in a repnrt presented to the Rinse of Commons frOm her Majesty's Council, to have been' the corre6tion of an opinion given by one pf the Physcians in his first examination ;. were you the Physician who so corieded your opinioh ? A. I was. Q. Were there any grounds upon which you could form a different opinion from that which you gave in your first examination, before the Second took place i n —A. I do not knoW, wish regard so my own feelings, that I f.rmtd a, 'different opinion ; but I found that I had not used a word with its pro• per import, being perhaps in she habit of using the word despair in a more light manner than I ought to have do,.e : I t.d not mean 'that I did despair (wally ; but one is perhaps apt, when speaking to the friends Of a person who ask whether they shall remain longer or no, or whether you despair, to say, I conceive a person many recover, but I cannot be without despair, or I cannot help despairing ; but on healing read the worth I had used, " I can not help despairing," wish an emphasis laid upon them, I was struck with them as conveying a meaning much stronger than I intended. I had not been in the habit of attending the Queen's Council. Q. .Did you mean more by aaying you .despaired of the recovery, than that you did not exped a re cuvety I—A. No, I did not. Q. You attended the King on a former illness ? A. Yes. Q. Is his mental state worse now than occurred at any..time dyeing those previous illnesses when yau saw his. Majesty a —A. Very considerably worse thani had seen his Majesty before. , a You stated, that you were called in on the 9th of• Odober ; has-your attendance, upon his Majesty been pretty constant since that time A.' From the 9th of October, I saw the King only •to the ffith of October, and was called in again on the t sth of November, since whicbl have attend ed his Majesty regularly. - - ,Q. Since out attendance became pretty constant, have you ever witnessed any thing approaching to a lucid interval in his Majesty's case ?--A. I have seen several times in which the King could hold conver sation extremely well for a short time, but his Ma jesty was always liable to the disorder pressing nron the mind again at any % moment. The King has held certainly good conversations. Q. Do these conversations appear toyou'to be .of a favourable tendency ?—A. Certainly one' cannot help having a hope from hearing those coicveraa tions,.but it. requires to get to a further advanced point to be able to say that. it is really an amend ment ; it is often what takes place when derange ment is gradually ceasing. Q. Then the derangement of the King's mind is not such as to leave you without hope at any mo ment i—A. It had . yesterday much of a feverish tendency ; - it was more difficult to interrupt the King from the influence of disorder on his mind ; but there is generally a capacity in the King,to an- . swer any salt of questions. Q. Since your attendance upon his Majesty, has there, in your judgment, been any appearance of progressive improvement I can hardly, so well call it progressive improvement; as occasional ; there were many days on which there was a great degree of quiet that has taken place at different times since the 23d of November. Q. Is your opinion upon the improbability of his M4jesty's te( overy as strong now as, it was on the gth of October ?—A, It is. Q. 110 you consider his' Majesty's disorder, In general, nearest allied to delirium or insanity ? A. For the most part, during the greatest part of the time I have seen his Majesty in his present in disposition, it has.been nearest allied to insanity. [Withdrew. Dr. ROBERT DARLING WlLLlS , called. in and examined. Q. Is the state of his Majesty's health such as to render him incapable of coming in person to his Parliament, or of attending to any kind of public business ?—A. His Majesty's state is not such as to enable, him to come to his Parliament, or to at tend to any kind.of public business. (1. What is the present state of his Majesty's bodily health ?—A. The present state of his Ma. jesty's bodily health is by no means good, though it may be considered, generally speaking, better than, under the circumstance of want of air and exercise, might have been expeoled. This morning his Majegy is in an extremely agitated and nervous state, which has been increasing for some time past. Q. What is the present state of his Majesty's me;:tal health ?—A. The state of his Majesty's health is wor,ie at present than it has been at any time since his atiatk, Q. Adverting to the state of his Majesty's mental . health since your last examination before a Com mittee of the House of COIIMIOnti, are you now of opinion that his Majesty's recovery is probable, or improbable ?—A. Extremely improbable. Q.Are you of opinion that his Majesty's recovery is hopeless ?—A. I do not think it impossible ; but I really hardly know how to apply the word hope less in.a medical sense, it is only applieable to a stzne somewhere between extreme improbability and im possibility, but that is a state which is , so oxtrern,ly difficult to ascertain, and in the greater number of in stances will be as transient, that I hardly know how to apply the words. I do not think it impossible,. but it is in my opinion ail but impos,ible. Q. When did you fiist form your opinion, that his Majesty's recovery was extremely improbable ? A. I began to have a very indifferent opinion of his Majesty's state, soon after the beginning of the pa roxysm in July; and as the symptoms have never - given way in any respect, my hopes have continually decreased. Q. Is there any :hing peculiar in the aggravated symptoms which have shewn themselves within the last three days ?—A. Nothing peculiar; nothing it is. that we have not seen in several aggravated states before. Q. Are the symptoms themselves — more Szgfa. vatcl than they have been at any previous time A. No ;" I have seen his Majesty in the same .stag several times. (.. Are the symptoms which have appeared with in .the last three days, such as to endanger his Ma jeSiy's life ?—A. In any, other individual I think they would ; but I have so re'peatedly seen the King in the same state, and have seen them give way. atterwards, that I can hardly say that I consi der 'his Majesty's life as in danger from those symtoins. Q.: Referring to the answer given to The third question, respeeting the state of his Majesty's men. tal health, did you mean to-convey to the Commit." tee that his mental health is now worse than it • wno after the paroxystnicatne on in July ?--A. I thinh. it is. Q. Do you mean to confine your answer to that question, rut-rely to appearances within thelast three days ; nothing has taken place v. ithin tlitt last few days to increase the mental symptoms. ribi.e mental symptoms have regularly increased sinew. July ; they have never dimi: fished. Q. 1-las there heen no'abatementof svmptomc, at times, since the beginning of - December t--A. No abatement of the essential symptoms. [Withdrew. RUSSIAN TERRI HR.—About 5 years agog the,C„p tain of a Russian vessel, lying in Dublin harbour, frequented . the Roscius Tavern, in Fowees-street, accompanied by a dog of the terrier kind, which he had brought o% er with him: Being most unexpectedly compelled to sail,' the dog was_ left behind ; and having diligently explored all the Quays, even to the Pigeon-house, he returned` to' the Roscius, where he met Mi. Cornellys, the veteran comic ardor, whose ceived him with much huinc.iiity, and still continues to supply his wants. Although veryinfirm, and near ly blind from age, and we may safely add, grief, the creatures stemakes occasional visits - to the quays, the docks, and Ringsend, and was a well-known passen ger in .the ferry-boats that used to ply at the lat ter place, before the erection of the wooden bridges. ' The boatmen being acquainted with his story, ad mitted him free ; and it teas truly affecting te. be hold his eager inquiries (as we may almost admitihe term) after his beloved master ! In this affetlionate search he carefully examines all those places where it is supposed hiS master had occasionally stopped ; and it is no less remarkable than true, that he ap pears to distinguish the I,reign vessels, always going on board and - minutely inspecting them, pal ticulaily th6se from Denmark or Sweden, while he uniformly pits's by our own, or those from Brita.n. Thegrat tilde of the can Me' species is so frequently recorded, that'we should , not 'mention's hat anti ible trait as being con- • spicuous in our peseta subjea, did_We not think that it deserves partictilar notice. Sensible of the obliga tioas he Owes Mr. Co'rnellyS, he never me.-ts him but - whathe 'offers hiS paw for a friendly shatie; and. if it was not accepted, would neither eat nor drinlz, fearful that his benefiClor might be displeased whit hiM. When he goes td the RosCins, -and -does not see Mr. Cornays, he pfoCeeds to the Shakspeare, in Cope-street, w h ere he waits his coming and at - both these houses he is a frequent' visitor. He is • allowed by the best judges to be of a most valuable breed ; and to have been a remarkable fine . dog iti the early part of his life,--Dublin Paper. - Sunday evening, about half past six o'clock, the Cumberland's Head, Vablic-house, in the City Road, was robbed of a large japanned tobacco-box, full of tobacco and half-pence, to the amount of-two sulk lings and sixpence, which had been dropped in by an aperture at the top ; the Sunday Newspaper was, stolen at the same time. A man was afterwards stopped with the tobacco-box upon him, and on whom were also found bank-notes, bills, and stock receipts, to the amount of 5901. , - A few mornings since, the house of Mr. Thomas Theobalch of Wilstrop, was broke open at . ,half-past two o'clock,'by three men, armed with pistols, who stole bank notes to the amount of 451, plate, pier), waning apparel, a chaise, and other property to a considerable amount. BIRTIIS. On the 27th ult. at Chester, the Lady of Captain Robert Evans,- ot the Royal Navy, ot a S on . On Saturday last, Mrs. Rowlandson, of Queen-square, Bloomsbury, of a Daughter, being her 13th chtid. MARKIAI), On Monday, at Charles Church, Plymouth, -- Hud. son, Esq. to Miss Hawker, daughter of Robert Hawker, 1).1).' Vicar of that Parish. On Tuesday, at St. Baaholomew's the Less, Mr. Roe, of the Inner Temple, to Miss Maria Collins, of Duke street, ‘Vest Sin thfield. Yesterday morning, at St. Pancras, Charles lacomb, Esq. of Hunter-street, Brunswick-square,. to Henrietta Anne, se cond Daughter of F. Dollmm, Esq. of Cower-street. The same morning, at Enfield, the Rev. Thomas Henry Elwin, to Eliza Eleonora Monk, eldest daughter of ‘VilliaM, Monk, Esq. of Enfield. DIED. On the r tib inst. at his house, Lamb's Conduit.street. Mr. tames Evans, late of Gosport. , On Saturday night, in G rossenor-place, Mrs. Robt. by, orD uugirce, in the County of Londonderry, Ireland. 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