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had ever met with. In hia Note ‘Of -the t Bth February, Mr. Frere drops the Subsidy, and con. fines himself to the :two points of the Armaments, and the sale of ,prizes in , the Spanish Ports.— After M. Cevallos had twice demanded' explana. tion on this point, its nor being pressed is an absolute and unequivocal abandoning Wit ;•r - and on the 22t1 of March M. Cevallos states, that he considers the Neutrality of Spain admitted.—. lie was at a less to conceive on what grounds Mr. Frere bad couched his Note ofilre rBthl of February in such strong terms. He certainly af.thi. in (bred contradietien to his authority,''for Lord Hawkesbnry, 'in his instructions` of the 21st Jai; recommends him c.4r,;tolly to . iitroid bringing . the Negotiation to an abrupt termination, 'lt 'was evi. dently the system of the then 'Government - of-G'reat liritain, not to enter into 3 Wai With Spain.> on account of her Subsidy to . France. Spain. is said never to have given official communitaiiima With regard to that Treaty ; true, but the progress of , it was ,well known, iltl4 had been . stated in every stage of it by Spain.' With respret erb 'verbal communications, if we admit the accounts- of the cone ferencea between the Prieee of Pine .and Frere, must also admit accounts of those be. tween our Court aed ill. DrAnduaga. When , the Right Honourable the Chancellor of the .tx-chee ever asserted, that the Dispatch of - ti e- - 2901 Sep. tetubef, t 80. alferded full: evidence of a deter. ruination 56 rewire a stihjeCt that had so long dormant, it appeared to hint to . lxe merely . ail as. sertion of_ the difference between a week and, nue. rile Administration, and that ,the Right Hen. Gentleman compared these Dispatches with those • of May, in which our Government , elearly elem. cloned the :Subsidy as a 'cause of War, provided no Armaments provoked theM to' hostility. lint, say they, Armaments did take place. If they werre, direOed againal tngland it would requite. no, argutnent to prove . the Unteedified rieht of England to make them a ground 01 War. Wh,it reply, !tow. ever t .. did :the Governor, of Ferrol ,make to the representations that , wrre addressed 'to•. him on this suhjea ? That the Arenament is destined for a secret purpose ; that it needa• not excite the jealousy of any European Power, she h hips being but half man. sued. It Spain were divotted to contravetne her co. gageneent with this Country, French finesse would have suggested a happier mode of concealineni.. Ac. compatoed as this answer wasby the want of prepae ration in curry othee,Port ref Spain', its truth cult! . not be'd , 'Obted. On D'Anduaga's being roes. , tinned by Lord HarroWby, he prefes,et utter igno. ranee of the stihjet:,:t, and two days after brings an ; OffiCer belonging to One of the Regiments 'compos. ing the .Armaments at Ferrol, with letters, stating' tlixt the obje6 of it was to quell the Insurgents in , liiscaty. '!'iris' NlreFrere, in a subsequent Disp itch, confirmed and. expressed his conviEtion that' Bach seas the fad. . . Some of the Minister's argtimentsope. rater) in two ciantrary direetionS, andAteereeed etas other. isgr'eeneent to suspend ;hostilities were advantageous to li`iar‘,Ce, She wOuld'not have itroi. `te„aual 4esin to bleak it if War with ; Spain were snore advantageous' to France, we shall be losers by precipitating ottrselves int o it. It . was inex. how,on such inatruCitions as welt contained in Lord 14 Dispatch. of (Maher 19, Mi. B. here puttied himself warranted in m 'king the cinnmunicatiOn of the Tce reaty with - Frin and the retitip MO us All A rmaments in Spain an ultimatum., :e vet eiy tta robated. a - pitssae 7 flT;aee o f I\l, try to M. Cev311 ,,, ,„ts bei n g justly fenstee.to te Court of ;; ; ..tie, and di!gracetet to the C. , yet f Wraith It mendoeed tl.e idiot-lice of ance on the Spant,h Conch. esetreed ..the pentleec- oiSpain,onthat Po set, 41,41 iusinieited, the c e nt went distr u st of Ei e laitd. Ithese 'circum. sta. co uetc true, but (his Tendered it metre improe per to hie!' at them; and he 'w i ts well Assured that t e m condOt of the litatieh Charge it M:Fajita' was eirmiely repeobated by the „whole Oirps Diploma. tic ut Europe. But this was nothing to' a-subie. l , t r e at p ar t. of MI; Frere'a preceedings; He read a .dote t Nl. CeValin , , in which be tells hitt), that ex k eets:lll answer by the )tearer.. What would cur Atimitti.orAttonhlye thonght had a similar in. ijult been offered to diem rfle disclaimed all pere sonal t f 1 Li }tons run Mr. 'Frett, but' such were' his wit the affair. Mr. joteNsTout repeated sit me of his hornet observations 'with regard to the'Strlisidy stii,ttlaterl to be paid by Spain to Franc, and roledgcd that it war' a shameful Mac. T ime its its for such a trifle to 'desert Portopii 'our oncient Allay, and expose her to lye .over..run and destroyed.- This anion' certainly dirt 'teat redound to the honour ef .Great Britain, even at home, and on the Continent it ,was' regarded with uni. vernal disapprobation. , He concluded 14 tkelating iiit‘determitiation to support the Amentbnent us the Address propched by his Honourable 'Friend' 'Mi. Mr. RILEY. ADD/?NM enuhl not re. frain from expressing the greAcst saus.attotte at being able entirely to concur in, opinion with the }lon. Gentleman who had iipoken second in order in Debuts of this evening : he wished, however, to add one or two observations to those Which that geotlemati had tacit 'OA the statements of the Learned Gentlerosti 'Who' had preeeded him, and who cormnenceti the diactiasion ihe night. 'Hu should a void ad v erting to the 'Speech of • the:tiob. Gentlemanwho, had just "sit not nut a th e .blighteet disrespect to 11141 Cxetttleitisan, but because to rill ',IS arzoments, complete antwers would found its the statement made yesterday . evening by !.fight lion. Friend near him; and he was very unwi',ling to detain the Houoc long, anXious, as , they neee a sarily must be, hear" the opinions of so many greet and distinguished eheratt e re athea g them e who lead not been afforded 'an opporeu... tarty of e N eressing their sentirhento . on this motnent e ms sunicet. With regard, to the arraingy which the Learned Gentleman (Mr." Re t teir) anaerted to _ e xist between, diploriewc e re , ceedtr e es'alldethe oc. cor rtnces of special pit aed teith it:yard to construCtion which he had at t• I;:ti44Nl tO - rut Oil the different passages ;het he had quoted' :ftoni vae rioua writers on the law of hatitinit`f l :•"'" ni ten t er into any dispute With the Lear nt*, Gentleman., conee ' al e a ., h e felt . of iiis oWng itteninpetency toAhrt vial: e otherwise he would not licliitate to acknow. , ledge that the passages s. (pleted conveyed to his annul a 4ery ,difft:icnt metioingonal led to very up. posite reasonings. The Leaumt,Cyeptleman t although . he allowed that the unexPlaineil : Treaty .of St. 11:' defonso Ifforded a cotupiete iattilifieetthen of Wak., with SpAo, , Yet. se.pned `Ao,Wisit thalsipmerltini, more d-rieve had appeared in the conduCt OF the British Government to Spain on , the 'break ,ing out-of...thee War te i th e h ',ince. eflat, in_ stead of the forbearance send moderation which had elestinguished the conduet of oar Court to that of eSeerine and by 'whisk eve hal vaittly hoped to. secure the: Neutrality of ' that Fewer, we lied direetcd a message to the Spanish Covernpent, reOuiring a ca. tegorieal answer, conteinino a complete explanation how far Spain conceived herself to be bound t)y the 'neat) , of St. Ildeloneo. ' In. this wish heAnust to tally * dissent frindilie:Leerned„Gentlemen..Whae : o would have been the. rtklt ; of: such a prOceedipg r What answer should we have receiv e d from that ' Cour t end what ienPreoi9Peeohld have been made by • 4i t demand calculated to irritate and provoke those 'se hoe) the Learned Geetleman admitted' •(and' in., this point, he petfeCily 'agreed with; him) it was our true policy to I,9othe apd cop: ciliate. . Should we have attained our objeell should we hoe received- a deeisive negativa . or at'. firmative ?i, the 0 '1'1“.! Govern-, ifi not, 'l'l“overn-, -merit of 'Spain' would haveleplied, 6 , We have , no desi-re to ad up.to the conditions of the Treaty, we rather wish to .avoid doing so, and we ask. for time to ete,ble us to concert the beStenea,tircs fur eluding them." l'hepe 'had ~His . Majesty 'a Ministers re.' ceivcd such an answer, would the, Learned Gentle., Man have been prepared to advise them to deny the,. Spanish apelfeation for a prolongation of the de lay'' He rather thought not, . He ra t her , t hbd g h t , t h e Leireede Gentleman would have been nothing in such , 4111 • answer but e e request ftorn a we a k and oppresse&Go.vernment, `which it would hare IWO the highest cruelty, to refuse. Th{: result would thus have ,been siettiler to what it s has been in the .prociedings adopted , by , the British CAI. net, with itheeineonveniepee, f,uperadded, of bay. ing causelessly agitated a ottestien" welch motives of huinauitY' and prudence ituperiously demanded shOuld -bc. suffered, to lie derpeet e u 'He confessed that he was one who 'had waited with exces. sive -anxiety' for: the prodeetion ,ef the .docu,. reents, : froM . which alone it ; wee, possible to form an'accurate judgment of the condnet pursued by the two Adminisfrations .who.blutred in . the disz:o,sions which had taken place with Spain. , He tee. ieex. pressible satisfaction :in ltatieg e that threteelt the Whole course of ethem, he found ehe same ueiform tone of lenity' and forbearance towards, Spain.--41e traced if through all the dispatches from his Noble Frieed:eLord Hatekesbury ; he traced it in the lestruCtions which proceeded from tho 'present :Noble Secretary et Statee --, he' traced it in those ,emphatic words to 'our Minister at Madrid, 0' to make one moro.effore, it possible, to preserve • a state of Peace with Spaip.", Deeply . sensible as he was of the truth of the feels which he'had stated; he humbly preituned' toeimplore thefrHoue to pitose before they gave their votes for the Amendmentof. 'feted - to' them. Ile could not say what were the real 'Motives of th•.! Hon. Gentleman who had proposed .it. lie !eel no doubt that they, were pure; hut he loudly called to the I lose not to agree ,o a Motions` replete in its eensequences with i n jury toGreat Britain—to a Motion which, it i . f were adePted, weeldiewer this Cewere ill the estimation of ell lettrete---Would 1 ,wer the virit of the iehabitants of this Conte ry--weuld ueltrece the nerve's of every 13,,: , ,i5et &Vier and Smiler new engaged in the pro. tt etioh of Old 13ngtan-I,,aed induce them to believe, that i nstea d, of fi g hting for their Country, they are centerebeg in the deices; of the : meat lawless amid dishoneorable ovtr:-ge. "Dr. LAWREN'..:E allowed that when he rose yesteedly evening, for the purpose of delivering his, sentiments on this 3%0111 . question (an intention which, Was frOstratel Imy the adjournment of the debate), it wan his deterthination to confine himself to that part of the sullied which bad been handled by the Lvarned Grotlemito who closed that discus- Sion Ole Advocate General). Now, however, for several reasons, one of whielt was die able observa thins that had' been made on that sp e ech by the to:Arned Gentleman who opened' the debate of this evcni"l" , awl 'another, same remarks that bad falici from dice Right Hon. Gentleman whom be new followed, he eunfessed that he felt an i d nclina tion to take a wider range in the discussion than t hat : whi c h h t h a d ar first proptised co hithaelf. .He would never sit tamely in thaz House and hear k asserted, that we should not disapprove the pro ceedings of an Administration lest such a disappro bation should humiliate the Cotintry in the eyes of terope, and unnerve the ;also ofeopr britv# country men , w h o we,re.englad its CSpCAISThi; our eiiiiirch—. He would tell the Right Hon. Gentleman," that the avowal of erroOnstead of being humiliating, was hielily lionoehible . , and thee little dependence could k placed on the velour of men who fought blindly, without having entered into the merits of the dis 'pose, and , to whom ,the : peewit for tight ei for wrong was equally.desiraVe. lie 'owned 'he felt the greatest indignation 'when' he he ird such a doe , . trines introduced into that HOUse ; and he could not refrain from openly avowing that indignation. Ile would not be deterred. from expressing his on. ,disguised sentimerkts on this subject, by bejng told [het a Spanish War is floPtilar in this Country,. 0e had no doubt that an" enemy, rich in .01. lake, and, weak in power, "was a popular enemy; but,, surely, these were not fads to be stated in that Hour as . arguments a t convince -them that they ought In contuve at fraud and ontrage; and abstain, from censuring the perpetrators, because their meae Sorel' were popular. [rhe Learned Gentleman here went into a most ample examination of the official do euateola tm the Table. Ile extended hi remarks to such a : length, and entered into the subject with so much feleutenees, that it is impoesible tot us to folloW higi through his detail, ] He 'condemned the Con. duff of the Administration in the mast jioint. titmanner, And availed himself 'of every op, pc)rt unity that the Papers afforded him to . censure their proceediegs. From the filet instructions of Lord Ilieekesbury to the last Note frOm Mr.r Frere, all, in Itisopinion,. was oee chaostic Masi of pusiL lanimity and indecision,, le the 4esteinstete'e, sttel antra ee end vielenee . in- the last. He contfeenned b . the levity with which the information of the Wilier. niati Colonel, as the Right Hun. Grolleman had r thntighe prhper to call him, had been rneetioned a The la•A'4l4l - ; that the Brigade to which the Cob.. 1 ' - 'rel . - belonOTivas to make part of the ,EXpeclitton,to •'WsCa`y,firtrit'the Commandant Itad wattten , to -the . Colonel tO &at effedvanda afterwards Written . that. 'the Order '.Was countermanded.' He censored the ire ~irr,hce that was, attached to an Armahent of - three Theline; antiethoeght it not unreason. able that Spain should be at - liberty to use its forces to quell an interior disturbance. lie would not have trespassed so on the' attention of the Houses. •but thbt this.was a sabjr,kt intithatelaSebrineCted with his prilassion,' When ,we called upon. the. Nations, of Europe - to support whatever of .ciVilizathin :there was remaining in Europe, it was' necessary that we 'should endeavour to keep our own• Consciences free 'from any atts that could .Weaken oar appeal. We shohld not seek' to 'relax 'the ties by which men were hiSbertn bh - utid to the principles - of relitude.. We should not seek for a precedcnt wrong,not make case's Our - Imo violations. 'Jo , coal. men cases he would iiot.go against the kente of, the 'House (He had.exp-erieszeed some itserrapioaLfrom congT3big, Lee.); but in cases like this, it was for the House to consider whether it would become it to decide without - hearing the best arguments. that .. could be'Offered ; for hiMself nothing should deter • hiM from saying what his duty and his 'aense dietated on an oCeasion So truly iniportant a -• • The MASTER :of the ROLLS said, 'he would •,Confipe'himself to. the topics. which WCIC, must iro:. 4sort4et, and which bore most on thel.ssue of the qoestfoo, . without 'going into the yariety,oldetaila ,•frireiger to the•.main point into which. other Gentle. men had 'entered so much at large. : There was much in the nonduCt of the Adthinistration,' and in the mode in which this ;business had been managed from the commencemerit,, that ray afford room fOrit great • variety of opinions ,without bearing at all on the main question; but which may yet, if mtielt Cita forced in deb ire, have go ejit influence on the' decision , as to that question.. These points were ,:certainly .. much connected with the question, but they ought . hat all to enter into the decisiou..uaton.it e _,N.:ither could he see how. the dispatches 'in the:early part of the Nrfgotiation - :could bc made. to eater. aiato the consideration. The War originated in a remote cause r Which was the' unrenothieed Treaty of St. Ildefonso, and in a proximite cause, which was, the , intelligence of the preparati o n o f Armameote:atial, the rehisal to explain. the objeds of these Arma. ments. • lie conceived we hada right to deMand an eXplanation of these ohjeda on several considerations; First, our' situation' Was io be . etmsidered, involved as we "were in War with France. Then, how far.' our situation With Spain was changed by this War• With France: Then, what engagements we hien. tered into' with Spain, whether by agreement .or coovention, for the name was iMmaterial, in order to ascertain what we •gave to Spain, and on what conditions. Then, whether tliese conditions•were violated, and what coneequ'ettees, in ,point,of.right,, resulted from such deviation. Afterwards, the: con.: : seqUences of the claims' of explanation, and the ionuurat of the satisfaetion - given: Ile understood lais Learned Friend to say, that the l'reary of St. 'Melon's° dill not Carry onp - the face of it a ground of War it' it was not renounced (Dollar Laavreate3aid ..Aro); he was lAppy to find he was mistaken, and that all were agreed as, to the offensive nature of that Treaty - . According. to the .Law of Nations, no Treaty was binding which aVoiald bind the Con. traeting Party to an unjuat.Wor ; and the sense of the Party was the only thing that could decide as to the justice or injustice. In the Family Compa4 there walla right* of . exainination and inquirye.but in that of St, Ildefonio ttb auch right Was alto eety, This, theref ore , Was-Merely :an ofi'en4ve Tteaty, et ,even accdrdin,.to the opinion of 'the ,Hon. Gentles tn.in who had moved:the Amendment, and a cause at ,War if it should not be: renounced, The . tingle ofyrueeeding undefthese circumstances, was to put it to the Government of Spaio, whether it would renounce the,Treaty or not ; .and if it did 'not we would have a just ground of\ War.' There was no difr,trance whether the succours "were giVen in kind or by a pecuniary compensation ; our right was the same in b,th casea, and we were n o t bo un d by any Agieeinent. between the Parties. Nations were' not bound to exert their right, at all times, or under all circtimstances. 'Considerationti of pru. 'dence or policy may intervene, This Country Might - not consider, it politie to go to War 'With ‘.Spain a and, in' fact, the policy of evading a 'War With Spain, when we. were engaged in a War with France, was recognised, provided we could be sure of at fair Neutrality - . It was remarked, however, that. there wa s no instance, for near a century, of Ot•War betwee6 this Coontty and France in which "Spain did not some time or another take a parr.... Even in the American War, which began in 1 7 . 78, and *0 the most Unlikely that could be imagineatto engage the cooperation of Spain, as being totally foreign to all the - principles of interest and policy, she, was at length ; induced, though [ter Mioisters at first- declared how .contrary it was'to • e a..udeece, to make herself a PartY. The Opposition of the I. time arraigned •IVlinisters on thil oecasion,• for their blindness in not foreseeing that Simin Would ultiaately take 'pus with France, and for theit miaconduel in not forcing her to an exultitm. don, There was nOthiog that Administratirni had been condemned for omit t i ng t h at t h e present Administration had not done. The, pre,rtent Treaty .bettVeen France and Spain was more overbearing than the ]!amtly taonip4t. Mirrisrers lead, there. fore, taken a distinct line frorreabe beginning, and had expressly decliredio‘Spain - , , that if she executed - that Treaty she could have no Place with us.--- - Then it came - to thequeation of the precise Atnount Of the .Soccoars a The - Ambassador • was hist ruaed 40 come.to no 'precise. detetrainatiOn on this point, belt to take - itras•there %verb many instancea in Hie. -tiny of Ambasuadora beirtig Mgt - rue - led to . . take the Answers given torthem•on partieuiarpOints, ad ie_ fermium, for the consideration of his court, It itTlieeeptoLwheer to7dierthintioningiveattboent.i.‘ealni:'ll3Wl24AZ :ithiOerlidLisettv44ieiroctiii,hewciathllesdpaCliln'e 7 7 1 5 1, (1,11.11 I:ti:oltu)lr:llSrAceii:taol or of-giviog a decisive answer t f in baSaatior was bast - rained to demand . a - Copy of toe tt:fatally e , t' i ° o P s rdt t d iVaiEtgh'ere.onLatre"4tittribee," Secretrtry Cupy should be refused, but an assurance given that lit ,contained nothio g . hostile to,Englancl, he was. to take that answer a d referendum, and to transnai t-it r for the consideration of his. Court.. , Ile never heard Lord Egremont censured as ineapablt: or indecisive for this conilut, or because ht. did - not give precis e . instruflions to the Arnbassader to bring the matt er to a decisive issue at once. Ile 'already stated, that the substitution ,of_,a . Peeuniary Contribution left , our right of War unitnpairA. Spain preferred that mode of giving her succour, in the expedationthat •the•amoitot would be reasonable.; and when France -, 4emanded a.+0200 000, the claim Was disputed, anti its justice colculated by a cornPutation of the expense of.the contingent. ''rite d e m a nd was, however , Pe7 '.: r rig " lTt t'i re r M ill ai i n n e.l i' t t ite d s c a 'n r4e a . ;'d T b li t i ir s n M i; c r.Tt l e )i t i e ed re " l jetahl'elu; '. impresfed,'When heibformed lite ..Spanish Govern. ment, that however a small andiemporary contrabu. titan may he allowed in the hope of A tie w it'Litial' of things, which Would give room for a real Neutrality. ~ in ro o m of the tiomiria one that now existed, no Per" manent or.onre ! tsstollikecOntribution could he per mit. . ted. Was this a ground fee oanceiving (air right a i d"' cloned, and for esfahliAing the most, dangeraus 00C• trine th;tt had ever been heard, that if a Country 11 4414 tight of War, it skunk! ittimediarellgo td \V" to avail itielf of that tight; ,and that, it was not at lib ert y - " to take the.ehßnce . 9l events for avoiding tlieWar 4°l gether'? Mr. Fie re held out no hope to Spain but on the' conditions which were.thought necessary to.insute ' 6l ' In his,Diapatch of d i e av h . j une , h e mer , t i,,ncti, t h at Great Ilritaitt had even then the right of calla"' sing hostilities.. The Learned Gen:l::rna It here went thrupgh tie particulars Of the discussions, betwee° Kr, 'Fier:: and I\l.' Cevallos,• in .which , the con. ditiona of an explanatiVn of the terms of the 'Pea with .France, the cessation of Armaments, sad the prohibition of the sale of captured British shirs,k3 the:Spanish Port's, ere made the ilirnary c'''''• tions of otir -forbearance. He allowed, that if th a o I conditions pro) en used Were acceded • to, it amounts to an Agretnt. The ihartge,of the word to C - .. ventton gave , rise to an argunient which heftliva "'t think material. The thing was the same.whatev't nem?. was given to it.. If a word of larger m eti l 4 ing wPie' t • after the :agreement, s abstituteil by ei tiler ;`arty fur a word of more limited meani't .tbat meaning' should be co.rre&ed.by a refetence l c original terms. He then 'proceeded' t,) sbew tri' potr) had not adhered to the conditions prqm ed , ))' ; us. He r did not contend tor any such thing as.l," ! `,; served right of \Vat en break out at pleasure ; an; ', to Hon,' Mover. of the Amendment wa's no't righ r. , " , he , iinputect such an !Intention - . to Lord 1-I.lwl , :e'"''',:l The le (ter of that 'Noble Lord to M. F rerc ' , A • i ; A Nbv. 2+, expressed ari intention of this kin'' , 5 ,j it gay:: tiine,. and if that rime should have c . 1 : 4 :, 1 0• iv ithOut altering the - eircumstanCe'it,' *notice `,":,, 1 e be given that we could. forbear do longer ; " 3 ; 0 1: sluauhrhave War or a fair Neutrality. 1 l el ,i n ti in the .necessity of upholding good faith a n d 5 ' , Ai- o f . principles. He would not; fort t he convev icricc i e any • partic u lar case, shake these 'fouriiiations.;l,o, this War was. not such as to render that n 6 7 l ' n ' ot . The situation of Spain was such, that we coi l ,die ' i allow her an, unconditional 'NentrAiity. '1%,01 Armaments, aid those that had the ar&a" n d e tc be hostility'amounted to the same thing. We ' 11 7 . '„4,•. , ' ourselves the jedgei of what''we Were to aIYP" j- w ji Lord Ilawkesbury never agreed that nothing 0 4 to to considered as hostile ...but what , S . A l'a i " ; at e, aIIOW 'w.4s to be'employaagainst us. Xt . ' tot s! therefore, required the cessation of all Arol3loc-jois ' ;‘ which of ordinary ' Neutrality, or, if ' asked, Is rael- e;1 . 1 • readily be, granted ;'' but r.s . Spairr was delie", d ' n ,„ l t he ' F ilowit r illi a llitze n r;r : e o 4 ''' e u o v ca r e e d ri r ad . , 7 li l ei l l i v a r W :W I : I k r1 i b e e4 S e iti b i d a n r l c a ; l a e a rri S s eg e a said, , 3' t. if that dn°' i! . mand it I:. .:4 (° froM the . position of Spain; an A ie r a m i° ; " e Y t i lt bietic:,3 ;ha f' cause - whatsoever may be used against "" Ito, Conditions yroposed by Mr. Frere were aceecl et o o ' and some difference arising as to the 11 0 ' 1°3 ' 1, l)f of the Convention with France was. ailOrt ,f ' Mr. Frere for ,the st a nd a rd of 'the r ecta- 110 t the Armaments. If there 'was , a n eces° „ i a tl' rill' a r, ny s'ubsequent . Armament, Ile did not a-i t hat Spain Was to be precluded frorn ' it, , but ro ti ., the object and amount of it should h e 'O4 fied and explained to. us . If we liad' o ne ' , , right' We. gaine&nothing.hy the agreenlen . s i l iolt would have a nA tu r A i r i g h t , by t he I.4aw c.” t "'„' t t 04 • to demand explan a ti o n - of any Armamen t I "' . , - dist" give cause of alarm. When it, was considereu Pert ,! there were five French '6lli . pe of tf;e line in ! 4.l` l f ib iit :1, of Ferrol, an y Armament there must he ,", f lit 'a' cause .of' jealousy. It had been insinuated, 'lnstifti informati on o f Ad m i ra l C oc h ran e w as CO be rec catli' ' with•caution, From his k now l e dge of A1 01 % 14 aa rant., he was sure th a t Gentleman world .P t lid statement but . what he Was sure Was tide; ' o o , 4fitramt 71 d Cbilyt theae " c t o a i t , h t . e c Armaments n..r exA r) i A ny , T e I . : e t . ) I A 7, tr ' i ! ri l i , I , c ii r: t WAS allowed re exist and its design was taY 9 i tc . l e . nor W*4 It aatisfaaorily explained even 1° ; i O!' 1 Itent. The Learned Gentleman then preeee''' ‘ '.,he W l ' mine the direurnstaoCes of the detention el f s Beyer, s Otea.. which he thought fully .lustifra, a i i i t i ) i e e ' r r, , ! proceeding short of the bbstilities to villico , • r ititi Sation of the revired cundition4 gave t t4 „,,,titi l ii ' If the c a p tu r e wti' , lm,tant to be 'alssollincs it, ,. V c ill! f 1 lif it was o n ly meant for a recaution, it ‘' oi pe l 1 W Inure 50. It ati nonlleiiiiZ t o be absolute , '''° iv 6l `` satisfactofy explanations 'were. stihsequeodrtheic / . 13 14 t . 4 . , . the captures would hair: : : . been re3itiFivt• ia:. 4 I 'explanatirms were nut given ; - aittl an tlic zl',, re I) i her M. Cevallos, in a contetenee Mr. f i l t ,lo' ll 1 ' ,with hiM, contended, .;h 'at S• ' v is dc.h.tir c car'' t no Anna aat ow v.. to , 1 1. 4 1 ents 1 41 t such as get 4 l'c''' il v 1 1 ''''. 0 f i ~.lititain: - . ()label hostility B r itain - had r e ' , t ,IP: r = v t t i l l ,i, ju p ti ,, g in in i g , i w - e so I: t v liLt id if i Sp . ; . ii 9 , !ver c e t,o l t t o o l i i (!;,t , tt tio,, t. , -) . • 0 -, ,4 , 1 . , ' r her but such as the Live of, '•?: 0 " °1 " t l"'''e ' 41 , L lo; 4 ' o' over all Avmautents that could be .01,... e atLt° 10 „,ie'..., ' against cis. Mr., Frere s Oil a prior LIAY' - fv",. L',.., ti . iiistdil'on the cessation of. all Arinatner9f)firg.l,,',... ( !adios acceded ; and the point of tift'e ~,1 l'' t, ;';, '' I ,' 'antY one then iri'diSpnte Mr. -Frere;.agt- .`eair , i ''. el .. , - l,, `crate ofH•the-- Convention with Fra°c ° ' smi: l l , i ,- ." cerallos, in - afteriearls asserting th" , j i a il booriii to . desict 'Otii'', "from Arniaaientit 2 c 1' it ,1 . 3,' ;::. "I i Alt!, COlitt Aditted his engagement , a"' 41 i 0 o , ' : ,j ' /s ' "I tigiautt3 . p O art, iiropposition , to his deehtt ot poll Flute cli p ot catch eagerly at deb4tsi