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f V G I. G y`J ~~r~ lAIPER TAT; PAItLIAM/LNT.. HOUSE OF LORPS-L-Tilbnsii*A-r. A Meeting took place at the -usual hour, and p'ayerg being read, ituesstss Jon Private -.11.k,:&c.) as were in attendance were slvOrn at the Bari • • 41 . s • None the 111111 4 . as we could perceive, were forwarded. For the LORD CHANCELLoR, in eon '-equence (as arc' understood) of an important t s in nip n ica tion being made to him,moved to ad- ._, . Jouru the 'Towle, which !wino ti agreed to by their Lordships; au adjournment till to-morrow imam _ diately to:AS. niace. HOUSE or CO:piC)NS. On the. motion' of .I\lr. Rost, it. N‘ - as ordered that the Eon,le should, to-morrow resolve itself into a Committee, to:consider •of.the.propriety 'of Permitting the export.ation'of sugar, coffee, &c. floni,the island of Bermuda to America, in Anie-- limn and foreign vessels, the'Sanie having been originally impori.M British ships. . TheManickis" of T.A.vismot K -brought in a, pll ter better regulatin...the-rno.cle of electing Knights °f the. Shire. he Bill , was read a - first time, and ordered. to • '`fie priaten, -and-to he taken into consideration in the nextiSessiOii.of Parliament. The Connnittee on the Publicans'. Bill was .post. 7 Pon (xi to Wednesday. • Sir T. TiTIVION -moved the Order of the Day f or. goinv .into • a Committee on.the . nanure Car nage Bill. After a few words from . Mr. Kenriek, ‘. Mr. H.. 11raner., Sir T..Tiirton, Admiral. Harvey, and Mr. .. t., A.loore; the Bill.went - through a Committee, the report of which was received, ordered to ,be Printed, an d t o b e t a k en i n to fur€er c - onsidera- - 'on on Wednesday next. I.: • ..ORDEILS - IN COUNCIL. . '••Ir. Ros E gave notice, that he would • move, that the }louse-should, oul.londay t e'nnight, take into consideration the evidence Ritten at their. Bar, in the Committee of the whole 41 ' 3 11Se-oil the Orders in . Council. !lptouGt4.4:m 'did not know. whether Or not • _ t ile Right Hon. Gentleman was apprised of tlAe c ircumstance of his, having given notice of• a mO-_, tion of the same nature for next Tuesday. He thought it right to throw .this out, for the con sideration of the Right Hon. Gentleman. Mr. ROSE was perfectly , aware that..the Hon. Gentleman- had given notice of such - a motion ; Iliad iu consequence of that he gave the' notice he bad just given, as it vas.his wish to take the sense-, g f t hellouSe on that subject.. * . • i hc Report of the Committee on the Glass 4 -Mb-eswas was hrOught up and agreed to, and Bills ordered accordingly. An Address was ordered to be presented to the "nce:hegent, praying for an Account Of the 'fps taken by the Governors of Queen Ann's zonnty fOrthe Relief of the Poor Clerky; -and of . anpr o n r iatiOn of the , -,. 1 21.•:!0,000 voted In the 143t-Sessio'n of Parliament for .that purpose. • On' the motion of Lord YARNIOO•TiI, a new Writ was ordered for the -Borangh of Plymouth, In the room of .T:ITYRRIIVI.IT; Esq. who, since his election, had accepted-the Situation of Gentler 11 f1. Usher of-the Black Rod. • Lord OLKESTONE, seeing . an Honourable Ba . r ° o et.(;sAr W. ScOtt) in his place, wished to ask a c lOeti.oti._ respecting. a Bill-. which be. had some. 117; 4 ° ll -tles - a.go agreed to bring-in (the Bill respect- Lrrg the Ecclesiastical Courts ; we presnme). The was nom so far advanced, that .he could "ralyhope to see it'bronght in before next Sus-- .„,, i i°ll. Ile, however, wished to ask when. he Hon. " 4 'axoDet expected to bring_it forward L. • Sir W. ScoTT-replied, but in so low a tone that 11-as almost-inaudible in the gallery. He was L4 ider'stood to state it to-be his intention to.bring it .tn on 'an early .day, but, ,at present, he could not name the . day. Alr. - TionE- gave notice, that he would to-mor !?w move-for certain Papers relatiVe to the con "?.uct of the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, towards a qo. who had been sentenced to death 'for mur- F,er, and who, as We understand, had been par - &to iled. The second reading of the Local 7.`oken..Bill - 1 " s postponed to this day'sennight. The Bank Token Bill 'went through a Commit . `ce3 the Report of- which was ordered to be ye-. ; eeived to-morrow. THE ADMINISTRATION. • general GASCOIGNE wished to ask :the Noble -1 -'ord (Lord Castlereagh), if the Administration about to be formed,.was in such a state of for 'cvAirdnesS as to preclude the necessitra the mo tlOll of which he had given notice ? Lord CAn'LEREgoH said, all the Offices of Go- I s ;ertiment were certainly not yet 'filled :up ; but they' were mected tti -be filled up without fur. : t :er delay: The War and the Home Departments ere placed under-Earl Bathurst and Viscount • 1/4,lllnouth. General GASCOIGNE then withdrew his notice. he Committee on the Ri©t Act was postponed '-'n tiil 'ondav • the Committee on the llnlawfuLOath to;morrow. - _ , CATUOL'C QUESTION. al'. CANNING,. in consequence' of 'some repre - - 2en tations.having been made to,him, that the mo ti°ll of which he bad given notice Would be likely .t° 'ilea with opposition from certain quarters, in 'co nsequence of some technical .objections which vrEre expthed to he raised against the form of Proceeding by Address,- WiSfied to snake some Va a.,latbll in its form. The.objection was one which "Illd Lot have occurred to him, but as, he should be sorry to risk the lois of that-Which was-sub : - stantially; his object, for_lbe sake of form, he would proceed fu a different Manner.. ' It was his intention to submit , I t'ltesolutiori to. the House, :and afferwrcls,indve:that that Resolution be laid before the Prince Regent. It Was his intention to einbody the substance of his intended Address in a Resohnibn, and then move that that Resolution be laid before his 'Royal, Highness - .the ~Prince Regent. . 'On the motion. of Mr. liii3OpGRAM, it was or=• &red that the House should to-morrow resolve itself into g:COmmittee'of the whole House On the Qrdei:: in Cduncil. . • . . Sir F. J.A.TRDETT presented a Petition from Sa muel Cita'ani, a prisoner .confined in the Castle of Lancaster, complaining of the conduct of the jailor: Mr. W. BOOTLE -could not suffer the petition to lie on the table, without expresSing his strong conviction, that every-word it contained was false. The person coniplained Of was a most respectable character: ln his life so humane -a. person in such _a situation he had ne'er known. In proof of this he'iwtaneedlis conduct to *one prisoner of tile Jfarne of Wardle. ,And the conduct of those who had 'been in his custody had. 'till ,now been only that of gratitude for kindness experienced front one who was almost,too humane to fill such a situa tion. If •the Petitioner were -aggrieved, the., ob vious Course for him to have pursitea, was to com plain to the Magistrates or to the 'Grand Jury.--- `As, however, the Petition had grt so . far-as the table of fife House, he hoped it would not be suf feTed to rest there. He hoped the Honourable Baronet' would move to refer it to a Committee. Mi; BECK ET wished the subject to be inquired . into. • • Sir F. BURDETT could not pretend to knot any thing of the facts stated in the. Petition, but it appeared to him they called for•. some inquiry. The Petition was ordered to lie on the table. -ADDRESS TO THE REGENT RESPECTING THE AD -MINISTRATION. Mr. STEWART NVORTLEY' said, but a short time had passed since he ,i43mitted alayopositionto the, House respecting-the Government otthe country,, in which the .maj6rity, of the House had agreed withhim. The proceedings ofthelas'i.Oree weeks werethe eimsecitience'Ofthat decision; and he was now anxious, 'if possible,- to get the House to agree with' him in the view he took •of those proe., ceedings; '41 . 1 . 4: in the view which he believed was faken of them by the. country. The view which. he had fattnerly taken of the, Governmpt about to be formed, was that it would not be such a Go vernmenteas to be entitled.to the respect and can fidence Of that Honse and the Country ; and, there fore lie'had thought it .the duty of that:House to 'express a wish that an Administration, entitled to such respect and confidence, might be formed.- since such a wish was expressed by the House, three weeks had passed away, and 't_4cy, now found . themselves at the same point froieriVhieh they had set out, Itvith the sate government . and- the same men at the head'of afia.irs. Under circumstances. like these, it was the duty of that lionseto pro , :cure such explanations of what had passed, as could be procured idthat House, and then to'ex presstheir opinion of that which had been.done.. In order that this. might be distinctly understobd,. it would be necessary for him to take a short re view (and:short it shoUld be) of what had been done Within the last three, creeks. lathe first place he had to observe, that no advances had been made towards forming.an.Administration for ten days after the House came to that. vote in which he had- before alluded. .It was true that certain explanations had taken- place as to. what ceitaiu Adthinistration . should.be.then formed, but no ad vances had been inadetov,=ards . forining nistratiqn within ; the time he had moved. He.was sorry that such- a occurred, as - What had followed he-Conld.not but attribute . to such delay.. After ten dayse:,the.Marquis Wellesley. had - been authorised bYthefrince Recent to form an,-Achni nistration. This commision, however, had come to nothing, and he 'Was free to say,, that in 'his 'opinion-it could only. end as it did. The'liaiS on which he was authorised to treat was, suCh, that 4 nothiN could, be expected fromit, as it seemed: only likely to create di union, instead of reinoV' ing differences, 'Qn•Thiirsday laSt,rt Iv:lS:under-, stoOil that the Earl Of lrYona was conimiisifnled by the Yrince *gent to form an Achninistration: In consequence. of his " being , . so authorised, the Noble Lord.had Consulted Lords Grey.and Oren vile, to whom he had statedhistanthbrity to treat with them to be full . .anci _complete, :without atiy. restriction or reserve wb.ateyer. being the state of the case, allthegreat, queStions Werelaid at.their feet, or at least left orn:for them to de-. termine as they pleased. • What then, under these circumstances, had brOken off the negociations ?. It should seem t4at the Noble Lord (Lord Moira) would not agree to concede the exercise of the power of dismissing the Prince's• Household, as a pecliminary condition. He did not know thatthaf which he had stated was quite correct in words, but however, it came to that in effect. The Noble ,Lord had. refused to concede the power. Of removing the Prince's Honsehold Officers as a, prelimirr:iry condition, and on this the lie= .gociation had broken off.—Vrom, .Neared to him, that the Noble Lords gave tip all those great objects which they had had in view on this account, and in thus giving up the op portunity of adopting those measures which they conceied to be of -vital importance to the coun try' for such an object, their conduct Was in his opinion unjuStifiable. He knew the excuse; far it was, that the l y..could not accept of office while that influence remained .untouched, which they thought existed to act against them: But did not their' conduct tend to strengthen that interest.? Bupposiilgjoy a ,moment,. for the sake of argu-• , ------- .2 •,; _ “,,, • . • , ' . • <ft IMO ‘..trf_..4 . / PI" • . .. ! % ) '...- 'l 4 '"- -4! .' ••,/ tf . „ .! ) . . 3 4. L ' ir , , ~ t 4 ,:. ) 1., : .' > t'''- . : ‘-• - wi :- • . --, ---'? ' • $ , ~ . . .. - • 1: Li s . • ' -;—. '-' • .....4. 4 1 . l• . 'IF Ir7i , le g. 1 14' •A . . ~, . . .., , . i.....„ •V ' ~, , .-• - w_ . . . , RI DA Y, JT , 12, ISI9. [PRICE SIXPENCE-ITALPPENNY. meat, such influeOce to. exist, o was that a .reasua why.they should refuse to accept of office ? Whet-' ever influence the oi - fliers of the Hothsehold might be sup -e to 1 • wo not that influence be pos have, , as oveli out of olEce as in ? Would not that in thience be as much exerted if they Were out 'of office as if they had taken upon themselves the Administration of the Government of the coun try Was the conduct of the Noble Lords in de.- clining office on ,such grounds the way to leafd the phbliC mind less open to unfavourable ithpees sioui Having got those points conceded, Which they had cousidered -to be the objects they had in.vieW, would have had them mah.h. a peace-offering' of the yest. If they looked on the state of the country, was it wise, was it pa= litie to stamp with the colour 'of truth those Tu mours which had ,one forth on the subject of this influence to i tthe public ? And what was the the adVantage to, be gained, if that for which they contended had beet), given,? Would that lhave _given stabilityiOd etlitiency to their Adminis tration ? kiocy stood this Matter of ihilluence with respect to the country ? How was it ma ifested ? Wert, htiey to suppose that it - pre vP.i:ted the Prince kohl caking the Noble Lords and dieir friends to ;oilice; 'when he was first made otegent, or that it • opposed their biting stuinuoned to his Couneils /iv.heri the Ite,;trictions ceased, to the iajur of the country ? No pruoi of tills appeared, and the con duct of the Phineto in this respect, had been ap .plaude.d by the country, There appeared before the . oation no proof of the .existenee of this ; and the lioh;le Lorcho o whooe liarnc , he bud mentionetd, by refasing to acceht ci oiiice, CT.' ain't a reason, et a time !ihe his, l:4.d i in his Opion, de barred theno,elV2 tAiug a pllO - e. in thcGdveru - meat at pceseoto and be should think himself . co-fp/hie if he v,-ere to say Othetwise. He had the horooir of a perooral aconalotanee with • Lord Grey * . and. no inati caehhi adatirethat man's great,talents more thati.' I.le. hid 'not the honour to 'he Petoho.inall y. acquainted tvith Lord Grenaile, but i:o;,qh-e more siticerely mired , his abilities than :he clicl I tea was skator such talents were lost to the coat - try. }IC was• • sorhy''qNy 'wee not gained to the pt'ihnie eervieea bqt fie "teas satisfied that they could t o,o: be thined. Still, however, he waB not satistied with the ar rangements Which been made ; he still ttothttit. a stronger Administra.tion tha!o the pieStoitynioht - have been formed, without either - of t he trio Noble Lords ; -but if the I`cohole Lord ployed to form an Administrat:on (Lord Moira) had, when he gahte.up-the commission with whiCh he had beets honoured, on .I\lo - aday last, advised Ifis Royal HighneSs to 'call upon his old advisers 'to forum an 'Admihistration, he ought not to be surprised at what he saw.- He - wiShed to see an Adiainistration raised stronger than the present ; One to which the country might look up with 'eonfidenee. Such ano‘dministration, he thought, night be raised, if his Royal Highness Were enabled to avail himself of the talents in the coun 7 try: With this feeliog,, he had - drown tip an 4A.d dress, in which he hoped the House would eoneur. •_ If, however, he was disappointed in this respect, he-should at all events have the satisfaction. of re : fleeting that he bad zealously endeavoured .to gala 'for his country the best Administration that could be obtained. He concluded by'movin;-, " That an humblearid dutiful Address be presented to his Royal Highness the. Prince Rt;vent, humbly thanking him for his most'grarions answer tO.th" address Of that House of the, 21st of May; lamenting the failure of his etideasnurS to forum 'an Administrition on a more-extended basis, and at the same time expressing an earnest trope - that be would avail himself of any opportunity that May occur of actuiring additilnal strength to his Majesty's Governmeut.' • Mr. CAJITWRIGHT objected , to the proposed Ad— dress, ash thought it went to attach a something like blame to the Illuetriotis Persoliege, Noliosc dry it was to eXercise.the executive power. •xis • • his opinion no blame whatever roopearel to attach itself to the executive branch of • the Government. -I .If the House did not•snpport the Goverament ofs: 'Lord Liverpo6l, under eireionstatiees like the pre- 2 sent, he thooght - their' conduct would throw the eXectitive back on that party by whorn his over-' 'tines had been rejected. :This he 'was most anxi. , - ous to avert, and would therefore give the. motion his Most decided negative. Taird FOLKSTONE thought the Am cress inade ohateto the purpose for which it was moved: At a crisis too, so-alarming as the preset:t o le bony:tit' it heeesSsory to express their sehse 0,'.: the preserit Situation .of ,the country. On this • ground he thought the HOn. Gentleman ought to have rested his •inoth-m o and not Orithe Cabinet negociationS, with which they had nothing to do. it Was their . ..,Inisiness.tO consider the present lairientabhz state of the country, and the hands entrusted with the . administration of its affairs, without - Concerning themselves vvithtthe Cabiiiet riegocktions pending. out 'of doors. If there were one part of the eoti stitution more saqed than another, it* Washthht which left the alipointment at Ministers Whoilfto the Chief ..M:igistrate.of this country.' .Any terferehce with the CroWn in thiS . respect, be con sidered as . extremely improper and uncometitu tiord. He also thought the Hon. Gent. wrtoig in censuring the Noble Lords far refn§ing-to office, as he (Lord F.) conceived that it was in the breast of every mau to - accept or to refuse proposition to place himself in a responsible situa tion ; .and that every Man was at liberty to reftise without subjecting himself fairly to censure. He thought the lion. Gentleman had •proceeded too far when *he ,censured the Noble Lords, ••••:s there might haVe been a something latent, a soinethintt concealed, which influenced their condileth cif which he could kuow nothing', but 'whieti, `roßl'oht make it impossible. for them to . dose -Arith• the overtures made to ;them, with Ilona& to them selves or with advantage to the country.' •The House ought to take into their consideration the state of the finaucei of the countr:et•T her relatichts with foreign powers; and her situation at. home, in 'order to iliotne a suitable address in the present state of thin s. It was almost impossible to look at the papers lately prese.nted to the House, and not be - alarmed at.the idea.of the country r main ing in the hands of thesenae men who had brought it -i oto its present situation. 'From those it ap peared; that the official value of British ma nufactures, exported cvitbir, the Fist - 12 months, short' Of the amount of thovt of the prec6ding year by 10,000,0001. -The" cum. raised by . fiafe:; Within the same period bad fallen off by - thtte million ptienids, while the expenditure of thd country was increased by iive poutiefg. this 'subject `he would not dwell but it w'riS ject of reasonable alarm to see the C.6venittient of the country entrusted to the settle persons who, at the beginning of the present war, "had been declared by a vote of thateHouse to be incompe tent to carry on' the Adminisoration. He con clude&bytnoying as an aratindynert.to the original motion, to take from it ,at/ the words Flt the word that," for the purpoSe of stating t' the deep 'regret of that tiouse, that his Royal High ness's endeavours o). carry into effect the Address -of that Honse of the 21st of May last, praying for aistrong Administration, had Ultimately That that Howse saw with the greatest sorrow, after his Royal Highness's . reost gracious aeswer to their former address, that liewoutd irrimediate lv attend to it, and after the anxious "expecta tions' of the country excited in consequence, that be had -again entrusted the Go'vernment- of the - country to the same men, against whom the former opinion of that House aptieareiljecorded. That under these .cireumstatices ; it 'vas the 'bouiden ;din y t pf• that House again to address hiS oral IlighneA on the perilous and alarming state Of realm,- ant(toint;Orni ii in, that after ail the sectifices made.iV thr; -- long nod trying contest its which the etitintiiiS•erigagttl, nothing but dan ger appeared before it, as it appeared from pa- . pers laid before that House,. that the commerce and trade of, the country were in u state of the most rapid decay, 'and tee. taxes . less productive than formerly. That while the resources of the Country were thus irap?Tired,, the public erpendi ' 'tire heti incref-ised by several millions. in ag-gra . vatioU Cf all these- evils, the current coin of the realm had altogether disappeared, anti a paper currency, 'intrinsieal!T of no value, was now ; mad e .. t.. tender : that. that House could not but think the present system must lead to a :national banitrUptey, with all the fatal come ' tie.eees of such a:calamity. Thus situated, they telt it to be their duty to.iniplute his Royallligb ness, as he Yalued the prosperity of the people. . and the honour of the Crown, to summon to his councils such men scone who would pledge the M.... selves to eadeaVour to reform all existing abuses, and who, by their ykistioirie firmness, and pru -'denee,'-might extrintettne - country from its pre.. sent dtfficultios, and preserve it from the dangers by which it was menaced." Lord Mieroto rose also to move nn Amend ment, but not oue.so voluminous, or embracing. SO-Many topics, as that of his Noble Friend. He tlionght,' on sto short a notice, and without an oppoetitaity of going intothe details, they ought tint rash loto the presence of the Soveteign ' - etit.h . gino 4 oldress like the just proposed. He agreed. withetli4 last .3oeaker, that the Honourable Gen tlemen • (gr. Wortley) had put the question on a wrong 6oting,'us he fia.d not founded it on the 'situation of the c.torototy, He strongly objected to tire GOverninellk c4,t-ile country being entrusted to men who badlieetitvotedoineorepetent, and path-, colarly to the [tight - LlCeouretle Gentleman nowt a the head o the fininceS cf. the country (Mr. N. Vaasltiait), whose appnintraeo't, by the bye,' had keen the 0(_,.:3A101i of tie lintiour , Thlet Gentleman giving - his eoticedor that add‘oesti- which had been carried uo to the Prince Regent. 'He objected to him, asLe:el; the 'great atite - scate of the present currency of the coontry. ...Ile could not reconcile himself to the idea 5f so , eing the Goyei &tient of the country being eatruste.d to the men who, eioht -years ago, were ueclacc . o unfit to c , arry it on, when Mr.Titt•aed Mr. Pox laid aside their rivalry to put them sewn. These., hoozever, were the men to whom, now unclei• more trying -circumst aure s, . . their deteriorated country.was to be entru=sted. 1-k gave his Honourahle Friend (Mr. S. Wortley) credit for P.' sint7ere wish to see r, strong Admini ttration Ico:nied, bat he thonott the Address Le proposed did not go suiiierentiv far t and that nototo go further; would lay the House open to the imputation of pusiquiirnity.t After'some fur ther observations, the Noble Lord proposed an Address, expressing regret that the expectations held out by the Prince Regent's answer to the Ad dress of that House had ,nor yet been realises!, 'assuring him of a continuance of their zealous _ support in such measores as they conceived most conducive to its interests at home and abroad, and imploring him no longer to defer forming such an Administration as would be at once entitled to the support of i?arliament and the country. The SPEAK tea observed, the Noble Lord could not move his Address at present. T,he sense of the !-louse could not he taken upon it till that al ready be,fore it were negatived. fie could therci fore only btoconsidered as havinggiven notiee : thut he would. move .an Address when - the proper time - came. • Mr. M. MONTAGUE, though he could not think the-pr:alkitAdministration so good as might . be thought it ~ e qual to 'any that coal be •forned by the opposite party. They lid formed part of an Administration had carried ou the business of the country fora long time, and vr'ho - hAotya Lx .opinion, and he believed in the opinion of the 1.4,-I,llic, carried the glory el e country to a higher 'pitch than it had.,,i.mer becu - carried before. .(le 'eulogized the con,ict o toe Prince on the present occasion ; lameuted the Eli'S•