The Sun. — London, England, 1852-05-07 00:00:00

Mr. HUME said the Chlncellor of the Exchequer had r aisiaterpreted what had fall: from him. Ho did not complain of the Right Hon. Gentleman's inattention, but of the general inattention of the House at the moment. Re referred to the noise and crowding of Hon. Members at the bar, and to the inattention of the officer whose duty it was to prevent the confusiou. If one Sergeant at-Arras was not enough let them have two or three. — (Cheers and laughter.) Mr. W. BROWN hoped they might he allowed to Proceed with the business be';ore them. Mr. HUME said that on one condition he would not divide —viz., let all those gentlemen on the floor of the Rouse at the bar go to dinner.—(Laughter.) The Hon. Members referred to having withdrawn to their places, Mr. HUME said that he would now withdraw his motion, and he hoped Hon. Gentlemen would be better conducted. Mr - EVVA.RT then proceeded to addreso the?C')lni mittee. contending for the necessity Bill. question consolicLitinga all M ilitia Acts before proceeding with the present q u estion was a poor man's question; for the work ing man Co u ld no t be supposed to understand all the W Ax e c r t e s braesfed re referred to in the or the proviprovisions visns which uupisointetchoensesolid at i o n was effeeteti, they were q Acts. He contend ed, therefore, ulna the justifi e d in opposing by every legitimate meatis the pass ing of the Bill. The Committee then divided, when there appeared— For Mr. Hume's amendmen; ... 82 Against it ... 165 Majority ... _ B3 The amendment was accordingly lost. Mr. M. GIBSON then moved to insert the words "deputy-lieutenant" after the word "appointed," in line 20 of this clause. The deputy-lieutenants would have to decide on claims, to exemption from service in the mi litia; they were invested, therefore, with judicial powers. What he (Mr. Gibson) contended for was that the choice of persons for the duties of deputy lieutenant should not be confined to persons having 2001. a year landed estate. The amendment went to abolish the property qualification for deputy lieutenants; and if it were not adopted he (Mr. Gibson) should move a proviso making individuals with a cer tain amount of personal property el'gible to that office. He should also propose to abolish the property qualifi cation as regarded majors in the militia and officers above that rank, on the ground that he did not see what landed property had to do with military talent and effi• ciency._ Sir J. TYRELL did not understand the repeated at tacks of the Manchester gentlemen on the landed in terest —(Hear, hear.) The Right Hon. Gentleman was formerly a landed' proprietor in the county of Suffolk himself, and ho was now pat forward to prove the pug nacity of the lauded interest. He (Sir J. Tvrell) should feel no jealousy , if the Right Hon. Gentleman made so many bales of cotton a qualification; and he was willing , to enter into a treaty of commerce with him on the sub ject. But he could not understand why these absurd at tacks —he was going to say—were made on the landed interest, except it was fur the purposes of the hustings. These motions were neither useful nor advantageous, and he hoped they would be discontinued. Sir J. WALSH. said that deputy-lieutenants were not necessarily part of the militia; he therefore thought the amendment, wtes not in enter. Mr. BERNAL decided that it was in order. Mr. WALPOLE thought the amendment proposed would not work satisfactorily; he could not, therefore, consent to it; but he agreed with mush that the Right l ien. Gentleman had said on the subject of the personal qualification, and he should not object to the proviso, as regarded officers, if it was fixed at 2001, a year personal qualification. Mr. HUME said, it would be better to leave the ap pointment of all officers to the discretion of the lord lieutenant. Lord PALMERSTON considered it would be very essential to the militia service to have one field officer who had served in the line. He, therefore, thought that ser vice in the army should be tantamount to a qualifi cation. Mr. WALPOLE said that was already in the Bi . l. Ms. NE WDEGATE t h oug h t i t hi g hl y i na d v i sa bl e t hat the deputy lieutenants should not be locally ac quainted wills the county through residence. After a few words from Mr. BRIGHT, s e k r• WALPOLE said the lord-lieutenant would have eee e Power of appointing a military man without any qua attication, and also the power of appointing, in case the ge la ended proviso which he (Mr Walpole) suggested was adopted, individuals possessing personal as v.ell as real estate of a certain amount. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought qualification should be put upon the same basis as the P arliamentary qualification. mUr. PACKS said landed properly generally implied idence ; whereas the possessor of personal property ght be absent when his services were most needed. net' LWART said that personal property was recog g;' as a qualification in certain counties and cities— stol and York for instance. Sir B. COLE BROOKE was of opinion that the ap ro)r•sattsants in question should be left entirely to the a lieutenants of counties. Sir P. THESIGER said there would be a difficulty in e ase _of the d escent o f personal property. After some further discussion, Col onel SIB I'HORP said, as so much difference of Pinion existed with respect to the mode of qualification, elvereetlid be ad v i sa bl e if t h e Ri g h t H on. G ent l eman t h e sidertarY for the Home D e p artmen t p os tp o n e d the con ration of of th a t part of the Bill. e ntir al • 111.131 E thought the qualification ought to be left ely with the lord lieutenant. con ispute on this whole o f nelly showed the neceseity of olidating the Ili.the statutes on the subject. meat agreed t o GieS°N sa - cl he unde rstood that Govern- Would the 'would withdraw Principle of h is amendments, he stood eAT them on that understanding. T°RN LY- GENERAL said, it must be under ,. th at a different qualification would be required for under different reeks. The it w a s CHAN CELLOR of the EXCHEQUER admitted 1 ,,„ esi mportant that the deputy lieutenant s h ou ld be ~/1.1 al iy cenne fi cet i cted by qua lifi cat i on . A t present the qua - I. on wa s i rrespective of locality. He did not see how he m ould make an exception in the present case . fere • BRIGHT th ought i t was un j us t t o have a dif .ha a t amount of qualification for different ranks. He lific ation Go vernment would abolish the gradation qua , and fix the qcation at a moderate sum. ea Ti le CHANCELLOtt ua ot the EXCHEQUER did not b l adder the militia service was a pure military service. e'te thou g h t that some difference in the Wag ordualification au ght to b e retained. q SEYMOUR hoped the question of promotion still reserved by Government. He trusted that pro tam would be attainable without specific qualification. Mr. WALPOLE reel property quali fi cation, said, whatever was the amount of ceptpersonal Government would now ac he__ qualification. The lord-lieutenant would ve Power to appoint one officer from the line ' to a Zihigher post in the militia without reference to qualifica tion (we understood). The clause was then agreed to. Clause 4, after discussion, was agreed to. On clause 5 being proposed, in answer to an objection by. Mr. W. WILLIAMS, • Mr. WALPOLE said it was requisite the Crown should have the appointment of the sergeants (we un derstood.) The militia must be drilled by regular ser geants to become effective. After a few words from Mr. Williams, Colonel Sib- Mr. ' Sib thorp, and Sir C. Burrell, Y. but wt:isuirdg GdPin, said that WALPOLE ,th e serg eants reply to a question put by Colonel regular arm y , elents would be taken from the Wa g: back to the army drilling of the atter the be taken between the enrol over: A distinction might the militia. He intended to enrolment and the embodiment of that during the time a eus h . mo ve a Proviso to the clause, embodiment the commanding officer should have the appointments of non-com missioned o ffi cers under him, the Sir G. GREY was in favour of the Crown retaining the power ot appointing the non- commissioned officers. The more the Crown possoesed such a power the more efficient would be the force. . agreed to The clause was thenthe. Clause 6was ame nded , effect t a h 4 at all officersiggeation of Mr. 'WALPOLE, to theholding regular militia now commissions in the should , subject to might , afterwards be such regulations as meg made by the ecretary of State, conti nue to hold such commiseions I n the militia to be raised. The Right Hon, and Learn,added, d Gent l e man thathe had stated the na ture of the clause and th e alteration, in ord er to c orrect an impress.; on that prevailed in the country, that the old militia officers were to be deprived of th e i r rant s. . se ovide tht ex ; Mr . ROBHOUSE—Does the clau p il e . _ a they e may officersng " shall be" con tinued, or t. continued? con tinued. A great Mr. WALPOLE-46 May be " co nouns' and an of the o ffi cers were now 70 yearse ° PPortunity of retiring would be afford e d ef them. The clause was then agreed to. On the next clause, n otice on the Mr. CIIARTERIS said ho had place d a aner rel at i ve to t h e num b er o f men, and a s that notice h ad some re f erence to t h e c l ause , he hoped the Commit tee k would allow him to state the general g roun dssled agreed that placed it on the paper. The House seeme d t a great diversity some measure of defence was required, bll real persity of opinion existed as to what constituted tiefenee. Having gone into Committee on the pr esent ' 4l , they had to consider whether the provisions of e l! 'lsere It S uch as to render it an effective measure of defenc .' was essential, in the first place, that they should come Se e a clear understanding as to the nature and character of the danger against which we had to guard ourselves. "' l t' need hardly remind the House that with respect to a net whlghbouring country we were not now in the position in steam we were at the commencement of the century. t "mos had undoubtedly facilitated the concentration of . r is a ePs and attack, and be believed that in proportion to 'le facility of attack would be its probability. They Ou ght, therefore, to consider whether the measure Would provide a force capable of resisting an invading ar my of reg u l ar t roo p s , The opinion of most mili tary men was that a militia, drilled only for daystwenty one - in the year, was a force utterly incompetent to °Pet the attack of regular troops. The Bill proposed that 80,000 men should be drilled twenty-one days in each year. But in his opinion it would be better that they should limit the number of men to 40,000 or 50,000, and that th ose men s h oul d b e mor e e ffi ciently trained. tl . L e would, th ere f ore, suggest to hi s Right Hon. Friend, `Se Secretary for the home Department., that they should raise but 40,000 or 50,000 men, and that those ;nen sho u ld b e drilled fifty-six days in the first year, rie and b e tan days i n each of the tour following Years' - h e ved that u n d er t h at arrangement t h e y would effect • in the five y ears a sav i ng to the amount o f on e-third of th e expen se which would be incurred under the - Govern m eat proposal. H e w i shed farther to observe that he s ought they would d o well to remove the com pulsory e n Imams from the Bill,-....(gear, htm..)lie hoped 1118 ptio l3) b e ato ° f Jer o• )lon, egi a 0 6° ' b tbs on 1 1 ord on ° l 0 ;r1 tb • env °e i o to l id b e )id DY rTHE SUN, Right Hon. Friend would make some concession upon that subject, because ho bel i e ved the g reater p art, if not I the whole of the unpopularity of that measure was owing to the insertion of those clauses.—(Hear, hear.) The CHAI3MAN asked the Hon. Member whether he meant to move any amendment ? Mr. CLIARTERIS replied in the negative. He merely wished to offer a suggestion. Mr. WALPOLE said that as his Hon. Friend had adverted to the 16th clause, which provided for the en forcement of the ballot, while they bad under their con sideration the 7th clause, he (Mr. Wulpule) would take that opportunity of announcing the intention of t h e Go vernment upon that subject. The great object of the Government was to mists the required number of men by voluntary enlistment, if they could properly do so. They looked upon that as a great experiment, and they there fore proposed that the ballot should not be put in force or r sear. eig h t Under mooth a t htaot seear rangementub hi n ieo i o l br . t e thtrtomehrl machinery judge hdti Parliament ey , y o, fl odad o un. t f rddae htnsh raise present r sixe s e experiment, tbe country e a b o nu y dl voluntary results enlist snout. h lea b e 01; thee newball tshould Parliament he re would oe ura e l otmse means tea,tlrl 0 ,11 p i p u o to rt o o p h e i 4ation—(Hear)—and they would have a of stopping that machinery if it should be found unnecessary to have recourse to it. The Go vernment were not anxious to have recourse to the ballot, bat, on the contrary, were desirous of avoiding it if possible. Let him remind the Committee that if the Bill were not passed, and if it should be found necessary to have recourse to the ballot be tween the present ;him and the meeting of Parliament, they would have no means of raising the men that would be required, except by removing the Ballot Sus pension Act, and resorting to the 42d of George 111. He could not approve of the suggestion of his Hon. Friend, sen e d y that o. one-half, e - t h h a e l f r a o u p d o proposed thatnumber the per i o o f d m fo e r n should drilling should leelsd ibte stood greatly would increased .oo mb combine t e he believed twog t h r e a s t t t h e e d v m a n e taasguer sof giving them a sufficient force for any emergency, and raising that force with as little disturbance as possible of the ordinary occupations of the people. He proposed, however, to amend the wording of that clause by sub stituting for the words "there shall be raised," the fol lowing words—" it shall be lawful to raise." Lord JOCELYN expressed his disapproval of the proposal of his Hon. Friend (Mr. Charteris). The highest authorities upon that subject had expressed their belief that 70,000 or 80,000 men were the smallest number which could form an efficient force. He did not expect that that Bill would give them any perfectly trained and effective troops; but it would enable the Government to know where they could lay their hands on a body of men who would be found extremely useful he an emergency. He would suggest to his Right Hon. Friend the Secretary for the Home Department a mode by which the efficiency of the force might be very consi derably increased. Under the Queen's warrant soldiers were at present allowed to purchase their discharge on pay ment of a certain sum, graduated according to the amount of service they mighthave performed. It appeared to him that it would be very desirable to allow those men to purchase their discharge at a lower rate. on condition of their enrolling themselves in the militia, while they should receive the same bounty as other volunteers. He believed that the number of soldiers who purchased their discharge amounted annually to about 1,600; and it was evident that those men who had undergone a regular military training might add greatly to the efficiency of the militia force. He thought that the men themselves would not be unwilling to avail themselves of that arrangement, and he had also reason to think that it would meet with the approval of military authorities. Mr. W ALPOLE having here proposed that the blank in the clause should be filled up with the words" eighty thousand," Mr. M. GIBSON said that as the Right Hon. Gentle man had announced his intention of posiponieg the ope rations of the ballot until after the meeting of the next Parliament, there could be no practical use, in asking the House at present to vote for the enactment of the ballot. If that measure could not be enforced until after the meeting of the new Parliament, why should it be enacted in the meantime? And shy should they commit them selves to a principle without any necessity ? And if they were to postpone one-half of the Bill, why should they not oleo postpone the other half? Why should they, to use a common saying, " make two bites of a cherry?" They proposed to raise 80,000 militiamen, and they bad got, at the lowest computation, 67,000 re gular troops within the United Kingdom. Now the Noble Lord the Member for Tiverton had informed them that in the month of January, 1814, during the height of the French war, they bad in the United Kingdom only 80,000 militiamen and 56,000 regular t roo p s ; so that it was at present proposed that they should haves larger force in time of peace than they had during the height of the French war. Was that reasonable? They told him of the danger of attack; but his apprehension arose from the danger of an aggression on the part of this country.—(Laughter, and cries of "Oh, oh.") That apprehension was at least justified by past events, while the theory of an unexpected attack to be made o us by a friendly nation was unsupported by any facts n in the history of this country. His theory that the English Government might pursue an interfering policy in Europe was based, not on the doctrines of the Pence Society, but on events which had already actually taken place. If a foreigner of intelligence heard Ministers talking of the chastity of our women, or the wealth of our merchants being in danger from France, he would believe England was about to embark on an aggressive policy. This was not a time to get up debates imputing to France concealed designs of attack, and awakening her jealousies and fears. He would not speak of the press; but such a course pur sued by men of eminence and Ministers of State was calculated to bring on war. He could suggest no course more likely to produce such a result—gentlemen going down to the House of Commons and making speeches — (Loud ironical cheering)—and without any facts—(Re newed cheers)—imputing bad motives to a friendly power.—(Continued cheering.) There was not a pretext for this measure; for the Noble Lord the Member for Tiverton had declared that when he had left the Foreign Office there was perfect tranquillity.—(Hear.) The milida were to be raised first by bounty. When the men, however. had the money, how were they to be secured? To lavish such an immense sum on so large a number of men, and without any effective means of se• curing their services, was really most unreasonable. Was there to be a vague abuse on the character of the En glish people, and their disposition to fulfil their engage meats?—(Loud cheers.) It would be far better to with draw the measure for more mature consideration on this and other points.—(Elear, hear.) As to steam it was all nonsense, for the question remained just where it was before as to disembarkation. Steam enabled a hostile foe to cross the sea quicker, but not to land more easily; and on the other hand, enabled us to transport our means of defence more rapidly by railway. He should certainly take the sense of the House on this proposition of 80,000 men. Lord PALMERSTON—Sir, I do not rise to discuss whose speeches are most calculated to promote hostili ties with foreign countries—(Loud cheers)—or encou rage and invite invasion.—(Renewed cheers.) I leave that to the decision of the public.—(Continued cheers.) But the Right Hon. Gentleman has misrepresented what I staid on a former occasion.—(Hear, hear.) He repre sented me to have stated that in January, 1814, we had 80,000 militia—[Mr. GIBSON-82,000] —and 56,000 re gular troops in the United Kingdom, and that therefore the proposal now made for 80,000 militia and 56,000 re- Oar troops—Nr. GIB9ON-67,000]—will place the country precisely in the same situation as in 1814. But, Sir, my Right Hon. Friend appears to be ignorant of the difference between an enrolled and an embodied mi litia—(dear, hear.) What I said was that, in 1814, we had not 80,000, but 89,000—(Hear, hear)—militia —not enrolled only, but embodied—(Hear, hear)—armed and under discipline all the year round, and in all respects like the regular troops.--(Hear, hear.) That is not what is proposed nuw.—(Hear, bear.) It is not proposed to have a militia even of 80,000 embodied, but only en rolled.—(Hear, hear.) Tho parallel, therefore, totally fails.—(Hear, hear.) The cases are utterly different. — (Hear, near.) And, Sir, it is to be remembered that though 1814 was a year of war, the French had plenty of employment in other parts of the world—(Hear, hear) —and probably there was never a year in which there was less chance of invasion.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. GIBSON said he would, of course, submit to the Noble Lord's correction as to the numbers of the militia in 1814; but the Nubia Lord had not contra d,oricihtevien clar invasionh ande other t h t e h r iws wa p a art of the statement, that in 1814 th e r e The p were only 56,000 regular troops in the United Kingdom , whereas now th ere were 67,000, though that was a time asrosbabtilmetime of peace. —( Hear, a wasce. — i ( m fl p e r a o r b , hear.) ab l (Hear, h ear .) o Nobl eThened i L t o w rd as s o a n id ly t t h o e be militia o np a w p e o r r e not to be em b o di e d . paper. —(No, no.) T hen what was it to be?—(Oh, oh. ) If i t were not t o be embodied, b di and no hur r y. I t the , re could be no emergency was perfectly absurd to pay the bounty money merely f o to the price ofa enrolment. Why the 61. just amounted embody themPeA, Who could expect the then to America.—(oh, oh.) to come back when it was could be ey exp . ected back again, why could be off to America. wanted to —(oh, oh.) If they all our military go on leave of ) said that foreigners were naturally we might as well let t h e y would even take money to defe h n e e d aro so i degraded absence.—. S ( C ti r d r e. lottheirne suppose that the people of this country design of abandoning h -t'ar)—and that, withh the fore, it was utterly defenceless.—(Hear, that could be more calculated to invite invasion and induce g (g e ar, hear.) He deprecated such attack. — speeches, as tending to produce much mischief and create bad ina• home and stn .—(Hear.) pressions both at d into souie observati Mr. FIUME enter() observation about the "country gentlemen " being the cause of taxation, and one laining of agricultural distress, taunted them with c p.ountenanoing a cry and at the same time L the present measure, imposing ad sion," which produced the people. If thi s measure were ditional burdens up on th carried it would b e b y the aid of the cou nt y Members, out • vend for Government who were heretofore cr y ing t axonpon them. from the heavy burden s the prey ished that gentle - Mr. W. MILES v.:As perfectly t to name a day for men why called on the GOanverßillend deliver themselves of se t epeeches, evidently intend dissolution should get tended for the second reading, o_in stead of confining themselves to the particular I aus the Bill before the Committee.—(Hear.) If they we of r to discuss the elapses let, them strictly do s o, but not make speeches de omnibus rebus et quibusdam Mr. Mal objected that so large a number at 50,000 men, out Of the requisite 80,000, should be raised in the present year by bounty. , They apprehended d an g er or they did not. He wished to know, in case of an emer geucy occurring, if they would prefer to rely on these 40,000 men, to an addition of 15,000 regular troops to the army?—(Hear, and divide.) Mr. J. EV &NS could not fancy • gentlemen acting as her Majesty's Government were about to act, if they LONDON, really were under a sense of danger. They would raiser number of mon to he raised - in the first year with "fifty 60 s 100 men this year by bounty if they could get them ; thousand;" otherwise he could see no reason why they but if they could not, they would do without them. The should not plss the clause then. compulsory clause was put cif to the next year; why not Sir E. COLEBROOKE said he objected to the "fifty s;pene the whole matter? What was to become of thousand," and intended to oppose it. the country in the interim?—(Hear, hear.) Who could The motion for reporting progress was then agreed to, tell if the invasion would not take place in the foggy and the Chairman obtained leave to sit again to-morrow nights between this and Christmas,—(Hear , and laugh ter.) (this day). Mr. WYLD opposed t he Bill, as, in his opinion, its The Stock-in-Trade Bill was rea d a third time and only efftct would be to place in the hands of the Govern- panned. ment a large amount of p atrona g e.—(ol, oh.) Tho Stamp Duties (Ireland) C o ntinuance Bill was After a few words from Colonel THOMPSON, who read a rß se o eo p ti E d i t: i m ,y e, also opposed the. Bid, _ . . . 1 nAnld4D('rdleNredCotMe he committed. Mr. COBDEN thought the statement of tee Fight Colonel - SIBTHOrtP protestedegainst th - o renewal of• Hon. Gentleman, the Secretary of State fur the Horne this oppressive 'end unequal tax, which ho.regard©d as Depertment, that the Government would no t n n a bl e to a l most a breach of faith oh -the part , of the tGovern put this measure into force this year,- a sufficient reason moot. So strongly did 'ho disapprove of this Bill, that for reporting progress. If this Bill could not compel if an opportunity offered ho otetuld take the sense of service in the militia , it w a s totally inefficient. H e th e . Ho u se- against it. H e truste d the G o vernment ehould like to know. what course th e N o bl e Lord t h e wo u ld be able to hold -out some prospect that this tax Member for Tiverton meant to take, after his assertion would not be renewed. at the expiration of theensuing that we might be invaded by 60,000 men from year. -.. . Cherbourg in one night. But he (Mr. Cobden) totally Mr. HEYWORTH, on- the contrary, thought the denied .that in Lancashire, Yorkshire, or Middlesex Bill ought to be extended tw almost every income in. there could be got together volunteers a t en a the country, with a view to the removal of indirect head; for rin: , n w‘. uld not be found to leave their work taxettor. on such an errand. A more ridiculous waste of time Colonel THOMPSON hoped that there was no more :led money than this measure would entail he could not chance of repeclieg the income-tax than of the restore conceive; and, considering the altered state of cireum- Won of the corn-laws. , ile wished to see the income stances, and the necessity of letting the public ou t of tax levied in perpetuity as a means of raising the re doors know what they had been doing, he trusted they venue of the country. , • • would now consent to report progress. Sir H. WILLOUGHBY considered the income-tax es- The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER would sentially unequal. He lowly many persons who by not now stop to inquire whether the people of England means of its operation were paying 12 or 14 per cent. were the " vagabonds" they had been described to he by on their income. He feared, however, there was no al the Hoe. Member, or the " clod hoppers," as they had ternative between either r enew i e e. g tint tax for a year been characterised by the Hon. Member for Man- or witnissing a great deficiency in the Exchequer. He chester.—(flear, hear.) It was somewhat remarkable , believed that abr oad some misconception existed up on that lion. Gentlemen, who were so often appealing to the Chancellor of - the Exchequer's speech on popular sympathy, and who boasted so of the privilege the budget, an opinion prevailing that the Right of representing the people, should never speak of the Hon. Gentleman was opposed to direct taxation and masses except in terms of contempt and contumely.— favourable to Customs' duties as a- means of raising (Cheers.) The Right Hon. Colleague of the Member revenue. Ho wished to call the attention of the for Manchester said that none but vagabonds would G overnment to the lax way iu which the - document s enlist in the service, because the people were rapidly connected with the income-tux were preserved. In one emigrating from this country. Probably the Right town the returns had been f h-tsoeldtaxto grocers, and the as Hon. Gentleman might know something of the cause counts of the chi ef tradesmen were sold with the articles of that emigration.—(Hear, hear.) When the motion vended in t h os e shops. If for reporting progress was made, he (the Chancellor of m e ans should be taken to preserve If a the Exchequer) was anxious to know on what ground landlord let a farm upon a lea se at,. say, 3001. a-year , Hon. Gentlemen contended that the whole principle o f and made a reduction of 10 per cent. to the tenant , he the Bill had undergone a change.—(Heur.) Now , the was bound to p a y three p er cent. w th e e re ee p r r e e t s u e r r n v a e . d soma on the 3001. a-year, Bill was brought in on the principle of voluntary enlist- , and not upon the 2701. This was an injustice upon those ment, and he must say, after due deliberation and con- landlords who to meet the pressure of the times had sideration, and after receiving mach information upon made reductions in their rents. He thought that were the subject, her Majesty's Government were satisfied a bond fide reduction had been made the income-tax that a sufficient force by that plan could be got together. ought to be paid upon the income actually received, and —(Hear, hear.) From the principle of voluntary en- not u p on the nominal income. listment there had been no departure.—(Hear, hear.) The CHANCELLOR of the EXC HEQUER—I hope And now, as to what his Right Honourable Friend the my Hon. and Gallant Friend the Member for Lincoln Home Secretary had said with regard to the ballot; dues not mean to accuse the present Government of any under ordinary circumstances it would take four months breach of faith because we have proposed the re-impo to bring the ballot into full play.—(Hear, hear.) His sitien of the income-tax for a limited period. In the Right Hon. Friend, with the sanction of his colleagues, po s ition in which we find ourselves Ido not know that we and in deference to the House and the country—in an . cou ld h ave pursued an y other course than that which we ticipation of another Parliament meeting within th e h ave ta k en . I h ave no fear that when the country year—offered to insert a date in the Bill w hich wou ld heaerany hinessounpassienedoonsideration tothe present secure to the new Parliament the power of interfering state of affairs, it will condemn us for the inevitable course it' this point of the ballot was considered a cause of ap- which we have pursued.—(Hear, hear.) My H o n. prehension and likely to lead to unpopularity.—(flear, Friend the Member for Evesham has touched upon an hear.) The offer made, then, could not be considered in other point, which at this hour I would not have ven the slightest degree a deviation from the principle of the tared to obtrude on the attention of the House; but measure, or from the policy which dictated it.—(Hear, which, having been alluded to, it would not become me hear.) It was, he would not say a concession, b ut a dis- to pass unnoticed. . When I brought forward my fluen position to met an objection which might be made. cial statement it was my intention —and I' believ e I fill of the Honourable Member filled that intention—to express no opinion on any sub that any change had ject whatever. I confined 'myself to bringing befo r e the ibTeeirieen theams assertion , i l o vi n n e , stt t h h e e therefore , principleof the Bill, was one of House what I believed to be a complte view of our those exaggerations to which the Hon. Member so financial condition.—(Hear.) I confined myself to that often and so felicitously had recourse—(Hear, hear)— duty because it was necessary for me to terminate my which, under other circumstances, had found consider- observations by making a proposition which, abstractedly able success, but which he (the Chancellor of the Ex- as a measure of finance, Ido not approve of. I wished chequer) trusted would no t meet w ith so happy a result the country to comprehend clearly our financial posi on the present occatiou ,— (Hear and cheers.) This Bill Lion, and the i n e v i table . necessit y the Government was soug ht to establish a militia on th e vo l un t ar y p r i nc ipl e , un d er o f submitting that proposition. I a l so w i s h e d an d that principle had been adopted in the conviction that the country should take advantage - of the interval that it was practicable.—(Hear, hear.) The Govern- which must elapse before another financial statement meat believed that principle would succ e ed, but in hay- can be made by a Chancellor of the Exchequer-- ing recourse to the ballot they did not practically deviate whoever may fill that important office —to arrive from the plan first sketched.—(Hear, hear.) The bal- at some conclusion as to the principles on which lot would not be brought into operation ' and by that the revenue of the country ought to be raised. With time the new Parliament would meet . The measure these views2l most studiously guarded myself against was never intended to prod uce a di sc ipli ne d force which giving any opinion either for or against the policy which should be able to encounter th e di s cipli n ed forces of the has been pursued with respect to the reduction and re great states of Europe; and the attempt to compare peal of the Customs' dulies.—(Hear.) I believe I was such a force to the legions of Algier s or the armies of equally guarded in any observations I made with respect the Caucasus was one which, he trusted, the Committee to the other modes by which the public revenue is would not encourage.—(Hear, hear.) This was a first raised. I felt it my duty to place before th e H ouse , a tt e mpt to habituate the people of this country more to without any colouring and in a calm spirit, the cense-. t h e use of arms than heretofore. Irresistible circum- quences of recent re d uct ions of the Customs' duties and stances had rendered such a policy necessary.—(Hear.) their effect on the finance of the country. My observe- If this Bill passed, although it would not produce a dons were limited strictly to the influence of thee() force which could meet the veteran armies of the world, measure on finance. I avoided all commercial con it wo uld lay the foundation of a constitutional system troversy—l ente re d i n t o n o discussion as to whether the of national defence.—(Cheers.) policy of our predecessors was tainted by injustice—l Mr. COBDEN repelled with indignation the insinua- avoided all topi cs o f th a t n ature, because I thought them lions of the Right H on . Gentleman _(oh)— w h o had unnecessary and not germane to the question under dis charged him with having accused the people of this cussion. It appeared to me that my sole duty was to country with being vagabonds.—(Oh.) Ho h a d too place a clear view of our finances before the House, and much respect for the people of England to believe that to abstain from proposing any alteration in the mode of they would accept the bounty, and turn soldiers for 21 raising the revenue. Finding that to be my only duty, days. What he said was, that the people of Yorkshire, I certainly - made no particular reference to those classes Lancashire, and Middlesex, were too profitably employed of the community who are, in my mind, greatly suffer to engaeo themselves in such a manner. The mechanics ing, and to whose sufferings it is, according to my opi- and artisans would not accept the bounty, and the men nion, the duty' of Parliament to apply some remedy.— they were likely to get would be the " vagabondage" of (Cheers.) I certainly communicated to the House the the country.—(oh, oh.) important fact, that in estimating the revenue of the Colonel SIB fiIORP trusted the Hon. Member's con- country it was necessary to make great allowances fur stituents would remember the epithet applied to them. reductions of rental and farming profits.—(Hear, hear.) But the Hon. Member would not think it politic to call In the position in which the Government, the House, and them " vagabonds" on the busting. the country arc placed, it 'would have been indiscreet in Mr. BRIGHT said the Chancellor of the Exchequer me on that occasion to h ave obtruded th e o p i n i o ns which seemed to think they wee making an unnecessary noise the Government may ent er t ain with respect to the re and turmoil upon the question , when it was the fact that medial measures such a state - of affairs may require. he bad made changes of im p ortance in the Bill. The After it hats been p u bli cly announced, and after that an - House and theeountrtyh,athaowveevryeri,niwpoarstaonft e a ha d n i g ff e er h e a n d t nanoueneceeenasieenn which is n ow not only not distant but t has bean accepted by the country, t h a t o n opinion. He contended im been made, if not in the p rinci p le, at least in the details minent, the opinion of the constituent body will be taken and circumstances of the measure. Instead of making with respect to that subj ect especially, it would beve l himself absolutely certain that he could raise a force of been most improper item ; — B, .11 making the financial state even 10,000 men, he leave s the defences of the country to , meat, to have troubled the . Hous e in detail with any the chapter of accidents, and pat; off the ballot to the sc h e mes or measures that had reference to the alleviation end of the year. The opi nion of the most eminent mili- of the sufferings of the agricult ura l classes.---(Hear, tart' men was that they could not raise the requisite hear .) ln taking that course, I think I acted in unison force by volunteering. 'They had entirely shifted their with the feelings of the - ajority of this House and of ground, and abandoned that of urgency and 3iet _ danger, ee the country ; Member' but, after the observations of my Hon. and postponed all active measures till the D em- Friend the . for Evesham, I hahe no hesita ber. Tho Right Hon. Gentleman was unwilling ( ton go don in d saying that When her*Majesty shall have re to the country upon the question of free trade hh Q un e e s: curre to the ar sense of h ''er'PeOple, her Majesty's Go tion.) .1 7 10 wished to appeal on the principles of his_ g vernment e prepared to introd uce , in due season; those was one of gene- remedial measures whi ch ral policy, and, as the present measure they believe are required by of the 13111 at least justice, and by retard - ral policy, he thought that portion t oned till thiieer to the permanent interests of the which referred to the ballot ought to b® pos country . — (Cheers ,) pronouncing T h this s-) I. think there can be no misunder the electors would have an opportunity of tleman said standingWea • ared House . or in the country on that subject. Right lion. G an opinion upon it. The Rig of this country that policy with o filial; as . far as lies in our power, the object was to accustom the people ee that was tea- we adv e o i ca y ted on regard the to the ngricultural interest which more to the use of arms. He denied thatother-sidis of the house.—Cheers.) was anything Strong, however, a s veiling in the right direction; and if there 9'aY be our determination, and firm ; d thechains of may be our - as conviction s, more than another that had r.vette..of • s,, I still believe that on the hands of these despotic occasion making the ti n • Europe, it was placing in the .financial statement it would have f the people. been a most uncalled-t . rulers large armies to crush the liberties o .. or Proceeding to obtrude an ex- Gentleman planation of our If that was the direction the Right Hon. (che nolicy on the attention of the House of of Commons. — meant to proceed in, be would be regarded as one ever After a few words the most mischievous rulers that that country had Mr. PACKE rs from Mr. Awirrny and Mr. WYLD, known.—(oh, oh!) He trusted he would withdraw expressed his warm thanks to the Chan fromand realer of the the Bill the clauses that referred to the ballot, Exchequer for the statement he had made with respect to th leave them to the consideration of another Parliament.Getle- The staement could not auffsring class in the country. Mr. WALPOLE was not surprised that Hon. (He not f a il Gentle es riculturiste.— to give satisfaction to the mol e Men opposite would not receive the repeated assuranc a g Sir G. GREY was Sr.) • of the Government that they did not intend to have . re- e. b seemed to have taken hot surprised at the alarm which course to compulsory service, unless they failed possession of Hon. Gentleman op in osite in consequence taming voluntary tenders. The ballot, he repeated, P ment delivered by tt?f' the able and satisfactory state would not be put into operation until they were assured Chancellor of the Exchequer in introducing his budgeannounce t.--(Cheers.) It was evident, ment he had made was strictly in accordance with what had, been enacted that night, Hon. Gentlemen he had stated from the commencement —unless in case that Hon. were anxious to extort from the of a threatened invasion the machinery for the ballot Right i ht found Gentlemanii - some declaration on which would not be called into operation.—(Hear, hear.) That they Gmovegrnment, in tg t ' alat i hope that the members of was the whole announcement he had made, and it was the on the opinions which theyrMinisterial career, would act consistent with everything he had previously said. The maintained on the other side of the House when they proposition of a Militia Bill was not brought forward the Protectionist party. , ( H ear, l ir W hat used to he called from any apprehension of invasion, but on the general. ( ear, hear.) The Right Hon. bad now declared,— i u • ' le that a country like than should not be left in a Gentlemaned him principle by on for mer ht language similar to that state of undefenco ; and since there really was no aphree employ first appeal to --eas totts, that the Govern.. hension of an invasion, that was the best time to provide Elie" would measures wohthe country, and then bring against danger, by a measure of provident precaution, forward the them n ich they deemed necessary. where no alarm or jealousy could be reasonably excited. But he had given_ _ .0 distinct idea as to what those After a few words from Mr. BASS, measures were likelyto be; nor did he (Sir G. Grey) Mr. CHARTERIS said ho would not have ventured think it was very• material to k new. _ to have brought forward (H hear.) He a motion on this subject unless did not think it at all necetsa r y. th ears he had consulted the opinions of some eminent military examine the Right Hon. Gentlemanat theyeshould cross he done, ' men, who thought that 40,000 regular troops would be his supporters had m order in the way some of to get at the opinions more efficient than 80,000 militiamen. But inasmuch of the Government .—( Hear,. And a laugh.) The Right as the Hon. Member for Manchester had taken up the Hon. Gentleman told them that t, ne had not on Friday motion, he felt himself in such a position that if the evening said anything whatever W i th respect to our Hon. Member persisted in his amendment he would sup- commercial policy. .11 ad been equally discreet to port him. ' night. But it was not,after all, a matter of vet great Mr. HEYWORTH supported the amendment. consequence. They relied not on the opinions y of the Mr. OSWALD said that even when the Noble Lord Government, but on the , facts which the Right Hon. Gen the Member for Tiverton, instead of turning the other tleman had brought • torwV.---(Che erh ) They were cheek, smote the Noble Lord the Member for London well aware of those facts orw—ret tetottr, hear.) They 'under the fifth rib—(Lauehter)—he was not tempted to had been stated overoversnd again ; en Speeches in that • • the onslaught. Inasmuch as the House had de- House, and in pamphlets . o ut o f doors. Join The accuracy of &tired by a majority of about 150 in favour of the se- those statements had-been impugned • b f the Crown * but now they had cond reading, he would bow to that decision, and al- one of the Ministers o t w. coming , is forward and though he was by no means f av ourable t o th e present declaring that those fee % e e re irref ra gahle, and illua- Government, he would support them in the present in- trating them with_.a power hear,) eloquence seldom stance. equalled in that House. -( Heat', ear-) Those facts had ' Mr. M. GIBSON said, that all he proposed was that been appreciated by the country; find, go to the country the word " eighty" be struck out, leaving it to any when they might, wouldthey remocilit on the hustings Hon. Member to propose to fill up the blank as he they proposed to repeal or the policy whi c h o f pleased. adopted, that the people late years had been a_ would re- Mr. J. EVANS said, that as the principle of the Bill spend with one voice that they had derived important had been affirmed by a large majority of the House , he benefits from that new they policy,• and that were not Was not disposed to support an amendment that was disposed to give it up.—'(Cheers) eers.) calcul a ted t o d es t ro y that principle. Mr. W. MILES asked, if benefit had been conferred Mr. T. MeCULIACeII appealed to the Chairman to on the consumers by this policy, wh at benefit had ac e etato - what the question really was that was before the trued to the producers? Look at the state of the • agricuih House. tural classes, and at the same time of the money-market. The'Coner a in ee then divided, when there appeared— Did that show that trade was• prosperous? Though a Ayes carried on ; it had large trade had been been with very Noes t h e greatest confiden t© 106 small profits. He had in the Right Majority .. —l3l Hoo. Gentleman the Chancellor of the E h he eqeur. He The blank was then ..% ••• thousand " filled up with the words "eighty had never, since 1846, swerved from the principles he • Mr. WALPOLE moved that the might depend upon i that advocated; and they t the prin osition he would, as • • filled up with the words "fifty e second blank be - eiples he supported in. opposition " (Hear hear.) a MIMS. thousand" as the number ter, honestly act upon.— , , of men to ho raised for the firstd t Mr. BRIGHT, having an y e ar.The Bill was then read, a see)ll time. amendment to propose, ob- The taetropolitan Distriot) Bill was proceedingfurther Grand Juries-C jcctcd to at that hour of the night, rea d s econ dti me a nd sent to. Select Committee. and moved that the Chairman should report progress,disposed of, and the House and salt leave to sit again. The other orders. were adjourned at a Quarter to. Two o'clock. Mr. HUME amid that as the House had settl e d th e total ritiwb:;l' of men to be raised under the Bill, he had no objection to fill -up the second blank with the words e fifty thousand " for one year; but he hoped the motion 0 1 t the H o ,. Member for Manchester would be a cce d e d the Government. to by 'LI ORof the EXCHEQUER T CHANCL . Tile understand the propriety of deferring further discussion, if it were objected to ail up the second blank for the n Mr. Bullock had an interv iew y esterda y with Sir John Pakingten, at the Colonial -office. Dispatches were received at the Colonial -office les ter day fr om t h e G overnor s o f Ilong-Kong and C eylon. Dispatches were also received from the Governor of the Mauritius. Dispatches were sent yesterday to the Go vernor of Gibraltar. FRIDAY EVENING, MAY 7, 1852. Mr. Jaquefs Finn - Here, 4 yrs, 7st 101b...(Flatman) 0 Mr. G rimer's Lady Speedy, 5 yrs, Tat 2lb (Arnold) 0 Mr. Clcrke's The Niece, 4 yrs, 7st 21b ......(Cowep) 0 Mr. J. Osborne's Puritan, 3 yrs, 6it Slb ...(Carroll) 0 B?tting-2 tl 1 agit Senorita, 7 to 2 agst Molasses, end sto 1 e7st Vivandiero. A very fino race with the first, four, dangerford, who only got up in the last threo or four strides, winning by half a neck. Run in 1 min. 1G see. The Selling Stakes of 5 sm. each, with 30 added; three year oldi, 8A; four, 9st 61b; five, lOst; six and aged, lOst 31b; 113fITC3 and geldings allowed 31b; win ners extra. The winner to be sold for 200 sovs., and allowance y if to be sold for -loss. . Once round and a diStanco.- (4 Subs.) Mr. Stebbing'a Sir C. Napier, 6st 41b (301.) (T. Smith) 1 Mr. Brown's Lucy, aged, B't 4ib (301.) (Flintoff) 2 Mr. Mangan's Tancred, 4 yre, 8:t 41b (501) (Keegan) 3 L.ird Newport's Lady Bibina, Bst 41b (30/.) (Marlow) 4 Bettie. , — Even on Sir Charles Napier, and 3 to 1 agst Tailored. Won very cleverly by a length. Ruu in 2 " nil % 4 sec. The winner was sold by auction for 80/, Tue Dee Stakes of 10 sous. each, with 200 added by the Proprietors or the Gr.,.ind Saud; for thres yrs 01., c..lis, Bst. 71b; Mlles, Bst 9 1b; the second to receive 50 SovF. oat of the Etakes, and the winner Ty - 37 25 soy . tOwar43 expensee. Grosvenor 03arsa. (66 Sans.) Lord We.stalinster's Atz.acl- (c.liAriton) 1 General Ansna's Princess col - ..(F. Butler) 2 Lord Caledon's Kiteflver The following also starred, but w‘ire not placed: — Baron Rothschild's Hyacinth (Templem , :in) 0 Mr. G. Barton's Bothgclert U. Oates) 0 Lord Clifdea's Sackbat Duke of Bedford's Hesperus (Ro.c , rs) 0 LpreE4lint7.ll . 4 Pelopidas (Marlow) 0 Mr. Fowler's Parser (Whitehouse) 0 Mr. Magenis's Caloric (J. Sharpe) 0 Mr. Morris's The Suttler (A. Day) 0 Mr. J. Osborne's Merry Bird (J. Osborne, jun.) 0 Mr. Pdyne's Wingenund (Flatman) 0 Mr. Worthington's Jessica (Basham) 0 Mr. Worthington's Racheto (Arnold) 0 Betting-5 to 2 agst Merry Bird, 3to 1 agst Attack, 5 to 1 apt Princess colt, 5 to 1 agst Hyacinth, 10 to 1 agst Kiteflyer, and 100 to 8 agst Bethgelert. Won by half a neck, half a length' between the second and third; Hyacinth, Sackbut, Rachote, and Merry Bird next in a cluster. Run in 2 min. 14 sec. The Marquis of Westminster's Plate of 100 sovs., added to a handicap sweepstakes of 10 sovs. each, for all ages (two yrs old excepted). Grosvenor Course. (26 Subs.) Lord Clif den's Poodle, 3 yrs, sst 61b (Sberrard) 1 Mr. Dawson's Italian, 5 yrs, 7st 81b (Lye) 2 Lord Waterford's Lancaster, 3 yrs, sst 81h(D. Doyle) 3 Mr. Rug lantbe, 4 yrs, 7st 41b. (Charlton) 4 Mr. Moseley's Alonzo, 5 yrs, Bst 21b (Simpson) 5 Lord Caledon's Sister to Wanota (T. Sherwood) 6 ThAting-5 to 4 agst Poodle, 3 to 1 agst Lancaster, and sto 1 each agst lanthe and Alonzo. Won easily by half a length, two longths between second and third, and a length between third and fourth. Run in 2 min. 18 sec. The Dee Stand Cup of 50 sovs., added to a sweepstakes of 5 soya. each; the second to save his stake. Lord Waterford's The Marquis, Bst 51b (J. Doyle) 1 Mr. Meiklam's Evadne, 3 yrs, Est 81b (Aldcroft) 2 Mr. Clsrke's The Niece, 4 yrs, ist 21b (Cowap) 3 Mr. Hargreaves's Osbaldeston, Bst 101b...(Denman) 0 Lord Chesterfield's Humphrey, 7st 81b...(Flatman) 0 Mr. Flintoff's The Reaper, 4 yrs, 7st 71b...(We115) 0 Mr. J. Osborne's Lady Agnes, 6st 121 b (J. Osborne) 0 Mr. Jepson's Bess of Hardwick°, Est 81b...(Kendall) 0 Mr. Morris's The Suttler, 3 yrs, 6st 41b...(T. Smith) 0 Batting -6 to 4 agst Evadne, 4to 1 each agst Marquis and Humphrey, 5 to 1 agst Lady Agues, and 8 to 1 agst The Suttler. Won by a neck, half a neck between the second and third. Evadne had a very bad start or she would have won. Run in 1 min. 34 secs. Second Year of the First Triennial Produce Stakes of 10 soya. each, h ft, with 50 added, for three yrs old; colts, Bst 91b; fillies, Bst 51b; 31b and 61b allowed, &e. The winner to pay 10 sovs. to the fund. From the Castle Pole, once round and in. (10 Subs.) Mr. J. Osborne's Merry Bird, Bst 21b... walked over. DERBY BETTING AT SIX O'CLOCK. 6to 1 agst Hobbit) Noble 46 to 1 agst Joo Miller S to 1 agst Alcoran 16 to 1 agst Kingston 11 to 1 agst Claverhouse 25 to 1 agst King of Trumps 13 to 1 agst Stockwell 30 to 1 agst (hello 14 to 1 agstAlfred the Great 33 to 1 agst Homebrewed 15 to 1 agst Little Harry . CELESTER CUP.—Some erroneous reports having been circulated with regard to the time occupied in transmit ting the r. suit to town, it is due to the officers of the Electric Telegr:ph Company to state that the horses did not start until a auarter past four, and that the message was not delivered at the telegraph station for 12 or 14 minutes after. It reached the London stations iu about eight minutes. THE MILITIA BILL In certain parts of England there is kept up at par- dealer seasons what is called the game of foot-ball, but which has no other resemb'ance to the sport commonly par ties, and two opposite goals. Instead yt the a a e n mg consist ence t a a a n n d d known by that name th a n that ther e i s a b a ll, two ardigisraivli of it s e o la a s r t s ic to fa t h :i r e ic elo v u sh d i s e , h th a e lt b e a ra ll a i t s el o y f only less than that of a sixty-eight pounder. From the moment that it is thrown into the crowd to that when it is dragged to a goal, it is the centre and object of a struggle . that may be compared to the ancient Pancra- Liens The party in possession enjoys its pre carious triumph atsthe - expense . of suffering:every violence and indigo that marbeapplied.to wrest, the pries out of its hands. It is rolled in the dust, crushed under the weight . 'of its surging antagonists, pushed into rivers and pits, rolled down banks, and compelled to resign the ball or be smothered, torn to pieces, or drowned. The assailants,, being perfectly unembarrassed, take their choice of operations, and make themselves as daneerous and disagreeable as they can. Now, that is the game which has been played in the House of Cornmees the w hole of this session. The proposal of a militia is jug such a heavy, tough bail es that we have describsd. We will not say—for, indeed, we hardly know—who first threw this apple of discord among the rival gsddesses, but Lord John Russell first appeared as the party in possession. After a great deal of hard usage, by a sudden agglomeration of rivals and foes the ball was wrested from him rather unhandsomely, and fell into unexpected hands. It was indeed a very heavy blow that compelled him to relax his usually firm grasp, and surrender the prize. Since that he has done his best to revenge himself, hitherto with no great suc cess; but the sufferings of tee party now in posses sion have been, and still are, considerable. As the temporary holden and defenders of the measure, they have to encounter the whole weight of its odium. They are charged with an idle panic, with subjecting free citizens to military discipline, with bribery, with con scription, with extravagance, with the vanity of a super fluous armament, with the sin of gratuitous provoca tion, and with making the very name of Government u n popular. All this, be it observed, they suffer, not for their own sakes, but for a measure which they certainly would not have originated. By the laws of the game it has fallen into their hands, and they are bound to retain it as long as they can, in order that they may carry it to their own goal. That is the scene we are likely to witness night after night in the House of Commons till either the goal is reached, or, through failure of sinew, bone, or wind, -the ball is relinquished by its hard-pressed possessors. As the struggle last night was compara tively trivial and mild, consisting rather of petty skirmishes on this or that• point of the measure, we will go back to the closing scene of Tuesday night. What a tussle was that I What close quarters they came to! What home thrusts were exchanged ! What truths were then spoken, that are not to be spoken at all times ! The scuffle was of the true Homeric character, as if it had been the body of Patroclus for which they were contending. Mr. Bright, standing, as the poet would say, on the body, called his myrmidons friihs afar to the attack. " Let us postpone the measure," that is, prolong the fight, "in order that the opinion of the country may be expressed for or against the Bill. When that opinion is expressed," that is, as soon as you feel the pressure from without, " yea will be obliged to a bandon the measure." M r. Disraeli 's reply was to the purpose, and would have been irresistibh) bad his own hands been moderately clean. Besides the general understanding that the necessary business of the country was to be expedited with the utmost dispatch, he urged that it was uncon stitutional to permit a delay, not for the purpose of ex amining the provisions of a Bi ll, but to give time for agitation out of doors. There c an be no doubt that was to the point. What Mr. Bri g ht and his friends want, is not the opinion of the country on a m easure which substantially has been three months before the country, and which the country has taken very mildly, even in its first form, when the proposition was to raise, mainly by ballot, near twice the number of men now proposed, but a good noisy agitatio n a g ainst the present proposers of the measure. That they personally deserve it on the principles of party warfare might be readily eonceded; but if we are to take a constitutional view of the question, it certainly is most preposterous that, when the present measure is only a much milder version of one that was brought before the public three months since, delay should be demanded for the express purpose of asking the people what they think of the measure, or, in other words, getting up the steam in the provinces against it.— Times. SPORTING NOTES. No. CCXXII. A HINT •OR TWO ON THE NEWMARKET SECOND SPRING MEETING. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. SlR,—The Dee Stakes were won, after a close con test with the Princess colt, by Attack, which does not say much for the winner's Oaks chance, especially as that very inferior animal, Kiteflyer, was a good third. The sport at head quarters on the three days of the ensuing week will be of a more wretched description than that at either the Craven or first Spring; for which reason I shall merely give a glance at those stakes al ready closed. Tbe Champion Stakes, of course, the Dake of Bed ford pockets. The Sweepstakes of 50 Sovs. will be a walk over for Mr. Stanley's Teddington or Mr. Magennis's The Ban. The Sweepstakes of 10 sovs. each for two yrs old is a bit of a mystery, but I strongly fancy that PELION or BOUNTY may turn up tolerable good ones from the dark division. I should have selected Placid for my abso lute winner but for the penal 51b. The Suffolk Stakes may possibly fall to the lot of ST. ANTONIO; one of the extreme light weights, Maria or Hugo, occupying the second position. I am, Sir, yours, Sco., THE SPIRIT OF THE TURF. May 7, 1852. SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. CHESTER RACES.-WEDNESDAY. THE CCP. Dac-an-Dhurras took the lead immediately after starting, and made the running at a good pace, followed by Hungerford, Cardinal Wiscmun, A.lOl3Z', View Halloo, and Truth; Joe Miller end Bonita lying in the centre; and in the rear Stilton, Nancy, Ilethorpe,,Richard Prim mer, Hippolytus, Barley-sugar, and Birmingham, all of whom, besides several others, got off very badly. At the workhouse turn, Cardinal Wiseman closed with Duc-an- Dhurras, headed him, and went in advance to the back of the course, whore he gave precedence to Hungerford, who in his turn gave way at the bridge to Bonita, Joe Miller, Scarecrow, and several others. Bonita now took up the running, which she maintained to the upper turn iu the second round, where Joe Miller closed, and head ing her opposite the railway bridge, went on with a strong lead, and won in a canter by half a length, Stilton beating Poodle as fur, Benita well up with the latter, the Black Doctor was fifth, and Lady Evelyn sixth. At the end of a tremendous tail were Nancy, Ulrica, Sister to Fencer, Barley-sugar, and Birmingham. Run in 4 min. 6 sees. There cannot be two opinions as to the fact of this having been the greatest "Cup-day" ever known at Chester, whether we look at the unprecedented number of starters or the almost incredible concourse of spec tators assembled to do it honour. For hours previous to the commencement of the races, trains-some with upwards of forty carriages-came in from all quarters at the shortest possible intervals compatible with safety, pouring forth continuous streams, and ren dering the streets almost impassable. The scene on the Roodee beggars description ; the stands were crammed to suffocation, and on the course, as well as on the city walls and the slopes, dense masses met the eye in every direction, and from first to last the excitement was intense. Extraordinary as was the multitude, it was not less so that the day should have passed over not only without accident, but with the most perfect good humour and regularity. The great race, which came off shortly after four o'clock, resulted in an easy victory fur Joo Miller-Stilton, by whom he was defeated for the Metropolitan Handicap, obtaining on this occasion only second honours; Poodle was third, Benita fourth, Black Doctor fif‘h, and Lady Evelyn sixth-the rest tailed off an immense uistance; Richard Primmer fell over the rails at the workhouse turn in the second round, but neither himself nor his rider received any serious injury. The excitement pro duced by the arrival of thousands of Nancy's admirers from Hull and Beverley, and the reckless profusion with which their money was laid out on her, was increased by a report that some Yorkshire " roughs " intended by some manoeuvre to get some of the clothes from the jockey before mounting, and so reduce the weight she ought to carry. and return them on his dismounting to return to scale! Had such an absurd idea been enter tained, the vigilance of the stewards would have pre vented its being carried into execution. Her defeat was unequivocal; she never showed in any part of the race. As some curiosity may be felt to know the positions .z o i t the horses at starting , w e sub j oin the order in whi they were regulated by the draw:- Front Rank-1, Russborough; 2, Redmond °Tie; n r lon , 3, Scarecrow; 4, View Halloo; 5, Goldfinder; 6, A o.z r 7, Black Doctor; 8, Sister to Fencer; 9 ' Me l? baadr -10, Joe Miller; 11, Wilmont; 12, Rioh-i-No 3; dinal Wiseman; 14, Indian Warrior; I_B al b rp. I ' 9 ° , Duc•an-Dhurras; 17, Old Dan Tucker ;18, Bonita; 20, Truth; 21, Hyppolytus; 22,*.ocu,_TradinP,r°imer: Rear Rank-1, Poodle;,2,,Retail; 3, 10 u 6, Dulcet; 7. mer; 4, Birmingham; Singh; 11, L 9 Jeuf; 12, Cockcro Hesse Homburg; 8, lio s tia , o'brpaeu;y9, Evelyn;ArllO3t,ol3;lllrtilo,y?jhuoglaarb; 16, Hungerford; 14, Lady Amyott; 15, High Sheriff, li,Sa y l r to e. n ; 18, Nancy; 19, Illrica; 20, 1 3 aokbiter; 21 , varop Crane - s treet, e Liverpool, tra joeiliermeassges from Middle C Tilo arrangement for the dispaatcfelaw the result of course, were complete d thisolfanti,-.3,letig.orniaphoice mo rning, and Man chester, &c., within 10 hat the great race made known . ex t T year, it is not at all passed the whali n g-chair; l h av e an instrument in the unl.liely the compa n y will nunrtnesLatileir°lltl; grand stand. L is gratifying to be ensb were so excellent, th a t led to . add that'the arrange ments at the Chdster station 50,000 pe.rsons were conveyed to and from without t h e gene for the station accident, and with no other Gun ral rush confusion than necessarily arose from THURSDAY'S RACES. of the races. after the termina tion The Scurry Handicap of 5 sus. each, 3 ft, with 20 added, for all ages. Three-quarters of a mile. (13 , n e e r ,aerford, 4 yrs, Bst 41b ...(A. Day) 1 Subs.) 2 9 s Molasses, 3 yrs, Ist (Fordham) 2 Lord Mr. 'Morrisscifde n Welsh Harper, yrs, 6 s t (D . Doyle) 3 Lord Chesterfield's Senorita, 3 yrs, 6st 81b...(Welle) 4 Mr. Owen's DaTiOS'S Gayiad, 6 yrs, Bat 41b ~.(Whitehouse) 0 NAVAL INTELLIGENCE. His Grace the Duke of Northumberland held a levee at the Admiralty at Whitehall yesterday for the recep tion of &g-officers, and it was attended by the follow ing: Admiral Thomas Le Marchant Gosselin. Rear-Admirals—Robert Wauchope, Sir James Stir ling, Hercules Robiasou, Bertie C. Cator, and Sir Henry Hart, K.C.H. COURT-MARTIAL ON THE SURVIVORS OF THE BIRKENHEAD. PORTSMOUTH, THURSDAY.—The inquiry into thel oss of this vessel was resumed on board the flag-ship Vic tory this morning, when additional evidence was given by Mr. Edward Wilson, the boatswain's mate, who was washed off the paddle-box ' and, with 14 others, got ashore on the soonson; by George Till (coxswain of the cutter, containing the women and children, and com manded by the muster's-assistant, Mr. Richards, one of the prisoners on trial), who said the other cutter was a ten-oared boat, his was only an eight-oared boat—he had as many in his boat as she would hold, eighteen women and children and fourteen men; by John Lewis, coxswain of the first cutter, who stated that bout was also full, having thirty-seven souls in her; and by Mr. C. K. Renwick, the second engineer. The last-named gentleman threw some light on the actual circumstances attending, and the effects resulting from, the ship's running on the rocks. Re said, " I was assistant-en gineer on board the Birkenhead on the day she struck, and was at the time sleeping in my cot. The engines were stopped. Mr. Whyham, the chief engineer, and his assistants, Mr. Kitchingman and Mr. rber, were in the engine-room at the time orders were given to re verse the engines, which was done, and continued till the water rose and put out the fires. The fires were put out in consequence of the rapidity with which the water rose in the engine-room. Wo took the injection from the bilge, but it had no effect in lessening the water. Mr. Whyham reported to the Captain that the fires were out, and the Captain sent for me, and asked if nothing more could be done. I answered that the water was making three or four feet a minute. I then proceeded on to the poop, and witnessed the efforts made to get the port paddle-box boats out. The safety valves about a minute after I entered the engine-room wore eased to take the shock off." By the President—l am of opinion that the " back turn" hastened the crisis of the wreck by rending the bilge of the vessel and admitting an immense flow of water. After the back turn I heard the rending of the iron plates. If the back turn of the ship had not been given, I believe the framework of the vessel would have remained intact for some time—at least sufficient to have enabled the paddle box boats to have been got clear. The flow of water was not very great in the engine-room before the back turn was given, but it was in the fore part of the vessel. She struck very severely after the back turn —a second time. I do not believe the back turn made a second hole, but extended the previous rent. The ship was divided below by bulkheads into compartments; the fore and aft ones were sub-divided, and we re water tight. conceived that the whole of the f ore divisions w extent of one by the bilge being "buckle d" u p the whole tho forward pact. By Captain Chads—l considered that the hole was made in the fore part of the bilge of the vessel. The main and after compartments, bad theyrem T a h in e ed m i i n d t s a h c i t p , ought to have resisted the flow of water. m ain division was filled in five or six minutes after the ship's striking, which was caused by the extension of the fracture forward. I believe that the action of th e swell with the motion given by the engines to have shifted the vessel in such a way as to give her a ful crum; she thus rested on the rock and broke her back. I do not know of any misconduct on the part of the prisoners. By the prisoner Mr. Richards—l do not consider you could have landed without stavi ng the boats. I did not see any appearanc e of a land i n gplace.l con a si s d :h r e e d ee th u a ld t ' the second cutt er had as man y people in her carry with safety. William Robert Mad ge , or master of the Vict d posed that the Birkenhead was swun g under hisdyi'rece: lion, on the 15 th of February, wh en she got a new stan dard compass; she was also swung before that, on the 22d of October, 1850. By the President—The co h m e m w a a n s de a r le o e f the veshseelrewbays su pplied with the result. s Mr. Thompson, the lat e master. I think Bw s ti h n e g had been swung at Greenhithe by Captain_ John son. I do not think she has be en at any foreign station. (Wi tness was then requ es t e d to l ook at the chart,and state it w n h e e ss - ther ho would s t eer suc h a course as that marked down.) d It depends o n th e d ev i at i on; i f it had been would not hav e c l eare d t h e po i nt; but if it it would have cleared the inner point by tw o m il es . I t on circumstances; would depend very greatly had there been any swell or a current, I might not have taken that course; if it had been smooth,l might have taken that course. This concluded the first trial. The court was then cleared for deliberation;and after remaining closed about two hours was reopened, when the Judge -Advocate read the following finding:-- " The Court have to observe, in the first place, that from the unfortun a t e c i rcumstance of the tairster corn• mantling and the principal officers of tho ship having perished they feel that it is in the highest de-gree diffi cult, and that it might be unjust to pass cewuze upon the dcceaied, whose motives for keeping so near the shore cannot be explained; but they must record their opinion that this fatal loss was owing to the course having hen calculated to keep the land in close proxi mity. If su c h b e the case, they still are not precluded from speaking with praise of the departed, for the cool ti! ss which they displayed in the moment of extreme , peril, and f or th e l audable anxiety shown f or t h e s afety of the women and children to the exclusion of all tr ar e fish corsiderationi. With respect to the prisoner tn i a d . under the authority of this order, the Court, havin g turd , / and deliberately weighed whole of the evidence, is of opinion that n_ blamer. and considered is imputable to them, and Both adj udge the T s a h i o d ro t Dunn Po w, land Bevan Richards, and John B°we fu n i ly acquitted, and John Asbolt, and Abel Steno to be folly they are hereby fully accordingly." to-morrow, to try Another court-martial assembleacquiyed the remainder of the Birkenhead's officers and ship's company saved from the wreck. Tile Cora's° d'Aquile and suite, after being conducted round the dockyard yesterday, were conveyed in the Port-Adrairal'a barge to the Sallyport-stairs, when the Neapolitan fig was saluted with 21 guns. his Royal Highness pat up at the George Rote!. This morning his Royal Highness embarked from the Ding's -stairs in the dockyard for the Royal Clarence-yard, where Cap tain Superintendent Sir E. Parry, Mr. Davies, R.N. (master-attcn]ant), and Mr. Pinhorn (storekeeper), re. ceived him, and conducted him over that establishment. From the Clarence-yard his Royal Highness went in the barge (Commander Boyle) to the Royal Naval Hospital at Haslar, also under the superintendence of Sir Ed ward Parry, which place they left about half-past twelve o'clock, and embarked on board the steam-tender Sprightly, Mr. George Allen, acting-master, command ing, and went out to Spithead, with the Neapolitan flag flying, which was again saluted by 21 guns from the flag-ship. His Highness visited the Prince Regent, 90, Captain Harris, under a royal salute and manned yards, and, after inspecting her, :eft at 1 50 under similar ceremonies for Ryde, Isle of Wight. The Commander-in• Chief struck his flog and went on short leave on Tuesday evening. Tine Queen, 116. came in Isest , ?ragy, and wtut along side the Camperdown, to turn over her officers and crew previous to being docked. The Eacoun'or, 14, Captain Gordon, has tor.en pail wages do an to six months to-day, by Sir. Underwood, Master-AtiPntlant of the dockyard, for the Admiral Super intendent. The Queen, 116, Captain Wise, was hauled into the rsngl dJrks to-day, to have her def ec t s ma de good, and to refit her rigging. The Higl.flyer, 21, Captain Matson, went oat to Spit head to-dry. DETONPJRT, MAY s.—Sir Charles Hotham arrived on Monday, and put up at Elliot's Hotel, Plymouth. On Tuesday afternoon he embarked on board the Vixen, when she got under weigh, went out of harbour, and proceeded at once to sea. The Leander was taken out of No. 5 dock on Mon day evening, and wont alongside the sheer-hulk; her fore end main masts, and bowsprit, were put in on Tuesday, and she is now alongside the yard to complete her repairs. ~ Bombay, 84, ad v an c e-ship, was taken into No. 5 dock this morning, and her bottom cleaned. She will be taken out to-morrow morning. Britomart drew her charts for the coast of Africa this morning, and sailed for her destination. Lieutenant Richmond Moore has been appointed to her Majesty's steam-sloop Buzzard, fitting at Devonport. APPOINTMENTS. WooLwlcn, MAY 6 . — Commanders Eimund Narcott (1838) and John Bertie Cator (1851) to the Coast Guard. The Hercules troop-ship still remains at moorings at Greenhithe, and it is said a number of men from the Fisgard, with several riggers from Woolwich Dockyard, will be sent down to Greenhithe to lighten her and allow her crew, the greater part of who m b e l ong to the Queen, to proceed to Portsmouth to be paid, down to the pre sent time, as the latter vessel is not to be paid off. ROYAL MARlNES.—Captain March, of the Woolwich division, is under orders to proceed to Portsmouth for embarcation and service in the Queen, 115, at that port. The following has just been issued from the Royal Marine•office, dated May 3, 1852:--_ " The corps of the Royal Marines being short of the regulated establishment, the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty are pleased to direct that the indulgence of discharge by purchase be for the present suspended, and the names of applicants registered for future consi deration, agreeably to the provision of the board order of February 27, 1840." A communication has baen forwarded to the head quarters of the four divisions, notifying that the Quegn's birthday will be held on Thursday, the 13th inst. FINE ARTS. THE RAILWAYS IN GREAT BRITAIN. A Map designed by' Z. Macaulay. Second Edition. Smith and Ebbs. Upon the occasion of its first appearance we well remember calling public attention to this really re• markable evidence of the forethought, the industry, and the ingenuity of Mr. Zachary Macaulay. Ap preciating, as we then did, the importance of the work as one tending to systematize the whole of the intricate network of the railway-system, we are by no means surprised to find that it has already attained the dignity of a second edition. From this circum stance, however, we may now somewhat reasonably conclude that this " Station Map of the Railways in Great Britain" has resolved itself into the only offi cial, and consequently the only authoritative and re cognised chart of the English railroads. The first attempt of any magnitud e ma de in this direction, it promises to remain as it has done hitherto without a competitor. , Macaulay's Railway Map must, in fact, henceforth be regarded entirely without a rival in its particular department, as Kelly's Post office Directory is as a guide-book to the metropolis. The accuracy of the former, moreover, is guaranteed beyond the possibility of misapprehension—the whole of the different lines of railway being "corrected by the respective companies." Apart from the interest of the publication as affecting railway matters, it pos sesses a very peculiar value as being among the number of the best maps of England ever published'The scale upon which it is produced being ten miles to the inch, it becomes obvious at once that, it affords every desi rable opportunity for distinctness. Added to its ori ginal merits, we observe, in the " second edition," a variety of highly meritorious improvements. What ever changes or additions have been made since the first issue of the map, in regard to the various lines of railway, are scrupulously attended to, up to the latest moment before publication. Each company's line is differently coloured so, a s to be immediately distinguishable. Every station is plainly marked out and lettered. All the principal towns, all the smaller towns, and many of the more noticeable villages in Great Britain (whether near or far away from a railway), are clearly indicated. The outlines of the various coun ties are dotted down. Every port, creek, or inlet on our coasts is defined, as well as every one of our principal channels for inland navigation. By those interested in railway matters, and in deed by everyon e at all engaged , in mer cantile Macaulay s Ra i lway Map will b be transactions, f:uii a alrn o st inestimable as a work of refe rence. While it reflect s the hi g hest credit upon the projector, it appears ( from the ver y adroitness with which he has been enab led to carry out his design) to have found its fitte st author in a gentleman en gaged at the Railway Clearing House—that cen t ra l establishment from the creation of Order out o f Confusion —in the responsible position of Under- Secretary. w c !, ia thh COURT CIRCULAR. Wednesdayi h is Roy al Highness e ( B 2 s tie l e ) r n i n re-entered r t the , a f t b e a r l 1 - s r u o p o p m e , r n ight, at twenty minutes past twelve mained until two o'clock, jeining occasionally in some of the dances. Her Majesty and his Royal Highness Prince Albert retired from the state rooms at Highnesses the Duch ess of Cambridge, two o'clock. Their Royal Mary, and his Royal a t h and the Princess took. their departure at g th eees the Duke of Cambridge ceased, and the ball concluded e d same time; dancing then having all quitted Bu k'u ed, the remaining visitors o'clock yesterday e Ingham Palace before three Her Majesty - morning. and R his attended b y the c •Royal Highness Prince Albert , ountess of Charlemont the Honourable Mary Seymour, the Honourable Matilda Paget, Lord Polwarth, Lord Charles Fitzroy, and Lieut.-Colonel the Honourable A. Opera with Hi s the ir noyaii ! h re%e_nc i li last evening. e ded by the Marquis of Aberco n r e n rViscountinceAlblanadtetvinie, 1 Captain Francis Seymour, and Lietenant-Colonel the Hon. A. Gordor, went, shortly before twelve o'clock yesterday, to be present at the commemoration Choral Festival of the Choir Benevolent Fund, in Westminster Abbey. His Royal Highness returned to Buckingham Palace at a quarter before three o'clock. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent visited the Queen yesterday at Buckingham Palace, and partook of luncheon with her Majesty and Prince Albert. Their Royal Highnesses the Prince of Wales, the Princess Royal, and the younger members of the Royal Family, took their usual riding and walking exercise yesterday. Their Royal Highnesses the Duchess of Cambridge and the Princess Mary, attended by Lady Suffield :tied Baron Knesebeck, dined with her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent yesterday, at Clarence House, St. James's. In the evening her Royal Highness that Duchess of Kent, accompanied by the Duchess of Cam bridge and the Princess Mary, honoured Her Majesty's Theatre with her presence. Lady Fanny Howard Was in waiting on the Duchess of Kent. His Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge ba an y interview yesterday with Mr. Secretary Walpole a t th Home-office. • yesterday The Sardinian Minister had an interview . n Down wit the Earl of Derby, at his official residence interview i ng -street. The Earl of March had a lso an i 1 with the Noble Earl. ea for the A deputation from the Local Board hadan interview District of Rusholaie, near Manchester,_ of Health, at their yesterday with the General Board'n consisted of the fol- Offices, Whitehall. The deputati.o a Mr. Callender loping members of the local boar . Mr. Wm • .Burdett and Mr. W. Entwistle, attended b 7, 1 ( l aw .l, kto the local board). Iho deputation were Gcr introduced by Mr. Brotherton, M.P , accompanied ;Ina r Mr. James Kershaw, . Mr. Milner Gibson, A • •, M.P.M.P., and Mr. J. P. Westhead, I 1 —on Da fusser had an interview The laa , yesterday w ith Mr. Secre tar y Walpole at the Home-office.. Lord I.L.3bert Grosvenor and a deputation had an 'in terview with the Earl of Derby yesterday, at his official residence in Downiug-street. A deputation, consisting of Sir Robert H. Inglis, the Rev. Henry Venn (Secretary of th e Church Society), and the Rev. Peter La Trobe of the U n it e d Brethren), had an interview (Secretary Sir with John Pakington yesterday at the Col onial-office. Mr. John Wood, Chairman of the Board of Inland Revenue, had an interview with f Derby yes terday. Lord Naas had . w the Earl o . also an interview with the Noble Earl. Mr. Pressly had an i n t erv i ew w ith the Char.icellor of the Exche quer Downing-street.Yoderclayt at his officia reesleitto us be be re noy me" se`, vas OP al (4 t he rbic li of ti oor )ttli ° g ob , r or ci 10 do") or e ve , j o r old eIY- 11 1/9