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RAILWAY COMMITTEES. (YESTERDAY.) Sob-Committee No. 1. This Committee met to-day a little before one o'clock, Mr, Strutt, chairman. CMXTHMWE 31TN CTION. Mr. CoaTis appeared for the promoters of this line, which was unopposed. The proofs of having deposited the plans and sections and books of reference were then put in, and the standing orders were declared to have been complied with. MANCRESTZA AND SOUTBAIPAPTGIC Mr. ELLICOMBE appeared for the promoters. Several petitions were read by the clerk for which no ap pearance had been entered. Mr. BURKE appeared in support of several petitions against the Bill. Mr. ELLICOMBE called the witnesses to prove the unop posed formal points of the petition in favour of the scheme. Mr. BURKE, on the part of several laud-owners on the line, proceeded with the various allegations in the petitions against the Bill. The first allegation was, that property numbered 109 on the plan was not correctly shown. Mr. Lutton, the owner of the property, was called. Ile tated that there was a field not shown on the plan. Examined by Mr. ELLICOMBE—IIad signed the petition against the Bill. Understood it to be the petition. It was on a sheet of parchment, and its contents, he understood, were against the Bill. Had not read it. One of his fields was not shown on the plan. The Committee decided that the standing orders, in this instance, had not been complied with. The next was a similar allegation against that part of the plan numbered 115. The allegation was sustained ; several allegations were overruled. The next allegation was, that the plans did not show the crossings of several highways in the count plans Gloucester, and that many of them numbered on the were not shown on the cross sections. The Committee were of opinion that the allegation was not sustained. Several allegations against the plans, with regard to mis description of property, were sustained. . The next allegation was that the promoters had numbered p ro perty en the plans as belonging to the Marquis of Ailes bury, whereas, in point of fact, it belonged to a Mr estion . Everett. Mr. Everett ex amined—The property in qu be longed to him, and not to the Marquis of Ailesbury. The Noble Lord's property adjoined his, but there was a boundary which divided their fields. Mr. ELLICOMBE called Mr. Collins—ls agent to the Mar quis of Ailesbury. He had a plan of the Noble Lord's property, which showed that certain fields in the occupation of Mr. Everett belonged to the estate of the Marquis. The plan, it was true, was twenty years old, but it was shown to Mr. Everett when the promoters went over the ground, and he did not object to that plan. Witness understood it to be the property of the Noble Lord. The Committee were of opinion that the standing orders had not been complied with. The CHAIRMAN said he nould report specially to the House the circumstances connected with this non-com pliance. The Committee then adjourned till twelve o'clock to morrow. Sub-Committee No. 4. On the meeting of this Committee at twelve o'clock the following Members were present—Sir W. Heathcote (Chair man), Mr. Shirley, and Mr. Arland. SLITCHAPS AND SOUTH-WESTERN. This was a Bill to make a line from the South-Western Railway at Battersea to Mitcham. The estimated cost is 50,000/., the length of the line being three miles thirty.ons furlongs. Mr. Alexander Russ is the Engineer, and Messrs. Gregory the Parliamentary agents. One of the witnesses, who was to provo the service of a notice, being absent, the case stood over. SOMMIZSEICSIIIRE MIDLAND. It will be remembered that on Friday last this calk came before the Committee, and stood over on aeccunt of the absence of certain witnesses who were to prove the service of notices. These witnesses being now present the case was proceeded with. It was found, however, that the datum line was not referred to any fixed point, and the Committee were of opinion that in this respect the standing orders were not complied with. There being no witness present to prove that the owners, I !ssoes and occupiers of property, upon whom notices were proved to have been served, were all the owners, &c., with whole property the line would interfere with, the further consideration of the Bill stood over till Monday nat. LANCASHIR.II AND NORTH YOR7ILSIIXRE. This case, which stood over front last Friday, on account of the absence of certain parties opposing the Bill, again came before the (A' nnmittee this day. Messrs. Dyce, Han, and Co., were the agents for the petitioner, William Marley, of Blackheath, who opposed the Bill on the ground that the plans were not correct. 7+ANCASH7CRE AND NORTH YORXSHIRE. A Mr. Hewick was called, on the part of the petitioner, to prove that between two sheets of the p!an which he had measured there was a discrepancy of twelve feet. In cross examination he admitted that the shrinking or expansion of one sheet of paper would produce a discrepancy between the two parts of a plan, but on re-examination he said that the same discrepancy existed in the plans sent to the House of Lords, and that it could not occur that the sheets would shrink or contract so as to produce the same discrepancy in both sets of plans. Mr. Hawkshaw, the engineer, was then called on the part of the promoters of the line. He said that in the course of preparing the plans, an impres sion was transferred from a paper called the " trans fer paper" to a lithographic block, and that it commonly occurred that this paper being wet, either shrunk or got wrinkled, so es to cause an apparent discrepancy in the plans, which discrepancy would appear in every copy of the plans. this case was, on the paper, about 1-‘autli The discrepancy in of an inch. The objection fell to the ground. Two of the allegations of the petition were abandoned. The allegation that " the cross section of the highway marked No. i 3 does not show the present road, ncr the gra dient of the new or altered road," fell to the ground, as it appeared that the present road was shown in the cross section. Another allegation was that there was no crow section of a public road in the parish of Haysden. In support of this allegation, a witness was called who said that this road was a pablie road, a bridle road, and a carriage road, but a wit net's was called on the other side, who said that it was only an " occupation road," being for the use only of the persons to whose houses it led -to. It was not a carriage-road, but carts sometimes passed through it. It ran paiallel to the turnpike-road. If he were on that road, mid were told to go back, he would do so, unless he were going to one of the houses to which it led. Objection overruled. Witnesses having been called, in support of, and in opposi tion to, several other allegations of the petition, the further consideration of the Bill was adjourned till to-morrow. WILITERA.VEN AND PunraEss TUNCrsoN (WHITEHAVAN EXTENSION AND KUM SAXTON DEVIATION). This Bill included two projects, one to conuet the White havNt and Furness Junction and the Whitehaven and Mary port Junction Railways, and the other to deviate and im prove a portion of the original line at Kirksanton. Lengt h of extension, three quarters of a mile; estimated cost, 25,000/. Length of deviation, two miles; estimated cost, 11,0001. Engineer, Mr. George Stephenson ; Parliamentary agents, Messrs. Jones and Walmsley. Standing orders complied with. In the case of the Mitcham and South-Western Railway, the witnesses not being in attendance, the matter will stand over till the next meeting of the Committee. At about half past three o'clock the Committee adjourned over to Monday next. Sub-Committee No. 5. The Sub-Committee met at twelve o'clock. The members present were, Mr. Home Drummond, Chainna❑ ; 11tr. T. Egerton, and Mr. Compton. 241111W1 ANUT AND CHESTERWORD. The CHAMMAN announced that the standing orders had been compl!ed with in this ca3e. DIZDLAND AND EASTEIM COUNTIES (C.8.1V/BILIDGE TO WELDON). The object of the petitioners in this me is to obtain a Bill to enable them to make a railway from the Eastern Counties Railway at Cambridge to the London and Birming ham line at Weedon. The length of the proposed line is fifty-three miles, and the estimated cost 760,0001. The Company were provisionally registered on the 29th of July, and the local agent, Mr. John Chinery, proved through the witnesses the usual preliminaries. This line was opposed, and the first allegation was, that a gradient described as level should have been one in five hundred and fourteen. This point and sevei al ot hers were then abandoned on the suggestion of the Chaim:al, that the agent against the line should go to a mere important objection. The next allega tion was that a gradient described as 1 in 330 should have been described as I in 445. _ Mr. EGERTON said he hoped he (the agent against the line) would not go on with such objections, as it was a waste of time and money. The agent said if he had to consult his own judgment he would not proceed with them. KILLARNEY VINCTZON. This case, which came on yesterday, was adjourned until this day by the Committee, to consider whether they woull entertain the objections of the opponents to the Bill. The opinion of the CHAIRMAN was, that it depended on the importance of the objections raised. The petitioner was a Mr. Murrell, who is engineer to a com peting line, as we stated yesterday, and it was objected to hearing his petition, on the ground that he was not a share holder or sufficiently interested in the case. It was also stated that a petition could not be heard, on the ground that i ll 0, petition the public should be interested. The Committee decided that the petition should be heard. The abjection that widows weieiwt so designated in signing the subscription contract was overruled, and the second ob. , i eet i o u, that all the shareholders had not signed the sub scription - contract with their Christian names in full length on e Lavin e ., signed F. Burke, was also c ons i dered invalid. , The Committee then decided that the st an di ng orders were complied with. MZDLAND AND EASTERN COIINTZES similar (cAIriBRIDGE TO VrZE m p°)l ot ) he r • ' Th e Committee decided, after hearing any objections, that the standing orders had been-corn phed CAMBRIDGE AND LINCOLN EXTENSION. The object of the petitioners is to form a rail Way from Lin coln to York, with a Branch to Churchfenton. The estimated cost was 860,000/., and the length 59 m il es . The line was opposed, on the ground that the fixed point from which the level was taken was marked on a wooden post. 'Jhe Committee postponed their decision until to-morrow, at twelve, after which they Ldjourned until th-t hour. Sub-Committee No. 6. There not being a quorum of this Committee at ti e time appointed for its sittiv, it stood adjourned until twelve o'clock to-morrow (Friday). DF.ATiI OF MB. HAWES.—We regret to announce that Mr. William Hawes, the musical professor, died at his rest sidence, on the Adelphi-terrace, on Wednesday morning, aged sixty-one. Mr. Hawes was almoner and master of the boys .of St. Paul's Cathedral. gentleman, and master of the boys at the Chapel Royal, where he first entered as a chorister in 17:93. He composed several clever glees, and he super intended the bringing out of \Veber's I reischutz at the Eui;lish Opera, where it was first performed in this country ou the 23d of J 13 July,-1824 . M r . H awes had , Tn a memberof the Royal Society of M us i c i ans for nearly forty years; he wag much esteemed by his prof ess i ona l brethren and a nume rous circle of acquaintances, and has left a widow, three sons, an d. ts.hrea daughters, to lament his loss. The youngest d sug hter is the highly talented v oca li st , Mi ss Maria U. Hawm IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, Thursday, Feb. 19. Their Lordships assembled at Five o'clock. THE ANTI-CORN-LAW LEAGUE. Lord DACRE presented apetition from (as we un derstood) the county of Hertford, praying the House to interfere in order to prevent the influence of the Anti-Corn-law League at elections. He (Lord Dacre) thought that this petition was deserving of the greatest consideration. The petitioners prayed that their Lord ships would be pleased to institute an inquiry into the practices of an association calling itself an Anti-Corn-law League, in order to prevent their improper interference at elections. Lord KINNAIRD said that this was the second time the Noble Lord had called their attention to the proceedings of the Anti-Corn-law League. Those pro ceedings were not private ; the Anti-Corn-law League courted inquiry, there was nothing secret about them as to the mode, to use the common phrase, in which they got hold of the counties ; Red he could assure the Noble Lord that there was no danger of the 40s. freehold electors being in any way assimilated to the 40s. freeholders of Ireland. Men professing every shade of politics, men belonging to every party, had bought these freeholds, not for the purpose alone of furthering the objects of the League, but because they wished to be come voters in the counties with which they were connected. If the Noble Lord wished to go into an inquiry he would be glad to do so. The Anti-Corn-law:League were only acting legally and constitutionally in their present pro ceedings, and not like others who created votes and ex ercised influence in elections for far worse purposes. Was it not notorious that Buckingham had become a nomina tion borough through one proprietor having purchased a great number of houses to extend his influence ? If the protectionists proceeded in their present course, and suc ceeded in getting a dissolution of Parliament, they might succeed, through their nomination boroughs and county influence, in obtaining a party adverse to free trade; but if they did, let them depend on it, that instead of having a legal and con stitutional body like the Anti-Corn-law League to contend with, they would raise into existence far worse political bodies; and bodies that might seek to change the constitution of the country. MINISTERS' MONEY. . Lord CAMPBELL gave notice of his intention to present a petition from the city of Cork in favour of the abolition of Ministers' money. CORN-LAWS. _ The Eni of ROSEBERY presented a petition in fa vour of the total and immediate abolition of the corn- laws. Lord REDESDA LE presented a petition from North umberland in favour of protection to agriculture, signed by upwards of a thousand persons, and in doing so said he wished to make a few remarks on what had fallen from the Noble Lord (Lord Kinnaird) who had ad dressed the House. He (Lord Redesdale) was of opinion that the Anti-Corn-law Lena° was an unconstitutional body. Though its proceedings might be in agreement with the letter of the law, they were contrary to the constitution of the country in endeavouring to return county representatives to Parliament. Was it not unconstitutional for residents at Manchester seeking to return Members for Cheshire? When he saw a body in London interfering to secure the return of a Member for Hertfordshire, he said that was an unconstitutional interference, and unless some thing was done by Parliament to check this, they would have a number of persons creating an influence in the different counties of England, contrary to the intention of the Legislature, and contrary to the spirit of the constitution. He denied that the manu facturers of Manchester had a right to inter fere in the election of a Member for a county, That this interference was going on was as notorious as the creation by the Duke of Bedford of the faggot voters. He subdivided his property, so as to produce a number of votes, and that was held to be an undue influence with the electors of Huntingdon. Suppose the manufacturers of Manchester came forward and swamped the constituency of Huntingdon. That constituency would not then be pro perly represented. If they permitted this in one case it would ultimately extend to every constituency in the kingdom. Unless Parliament took proper steps—should the matter not naturally drop—the consequence would be that Parliament would cease to be the most important body in the country. A. great deal that was going on in Ireland and in this court try had a great tendency to lower Parliament, espe cially the House of Commons, because that was the body more immediately attacked. It might be said, that if the wants of the agitators were granted, this matter would drop of itself. But that was not the answer that should be given to such a case as this. It was because they knew that their constituents were against them that they endeavoured to deprive them of their constitutional and fair rights, and the effect of conceding Irish measures would only be an encourage ment to other agitators to look for the same. For Parliament to be influenced in such a way, and by such a course of proceeding, was contrary to the spirit of the constitution. Lord KINNAIRD said that it had been the practice for years to make votes in that way, and, in fact, the watchword with many agitating bodies was Register ! register ! register !"—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") Now he wished to know what the Anti-Corn-law League had done beyond that ? They attended to the registry, and increased the voters, and the same was done by all registration committees.—(Hear, hear.) In Scotland it was only necessary to sell a property of 2001. value—reserving the title-deed—to make an agent a voter ; and such was certainly done by the Peers and ownet sof lat.d. He agreed with the Noble Lord opppesite 'hat such was an abuse that required to be reformed. He did not think it right ; but at the same time the parties were justified in using all constitutional means to effect their ohject.—(Heae, hear.) However, he thought that all such practices would terminate with a repeal of the corn-laws ; for after that time it could not be of use to any party. Earl GREY concurred to a great extent in the observations of the Noble Lord opposite, that the existence of such a power as was eielded by the Anti-Corn-law League was a very se. i ous evil ; at the same time, he should say that he considered 'it as nothing more than the symptom of a greater and more serious evil— a grievance against which they had found it necessary to take fresh measures, such as those the Noble Lord had mentioned, in order to remedy it. The Noble Lord had said, sad said truly, that the extent to which the grievance complained of had been going on in this country and in Ireland was calculated to lower the authority of Parliament; and he (Lord Grey) should say that he cordially agreed in much that had fallen from the Noble Lord upon the subject. But what he (Lord Grey) would say was this; that it was Parliament itself which had in a great measure caused the evil, and it was not by the means his Noble Friend had suggested that it could be put an end to. It was not by any measure of law that they could expect to put down either the Anti-Corn-law League, or the Catholic Association.— (Hear, hear.) The real remedy for the evil lay in the hands of the Legislature—by the Legislature taking the lead in pub lic opinion, instead of lagging behind. The Parliament should not have waited, as it had done, to be compelled by the voice of public opinion to afford remedial measures; but it should have been the first to have come forward and remove the evils complained of.—(Hear, hear.) It was by taking timely care that all real evils should be redressed that the Parliament need apprehend no turbu lence from the public. No man could feel more strongly than he did the great increase in modern times of the difficulties by which Parliament had been beset, but they had drawn them upon themselves by delay, instead of using their influence, while they had the power to do so, to prevent their existence. Again, he would say, that it was owing to those courses, and not to th e Anti-Corn-law League or the Catholic Association, that the evils complained of by the Noble Lord opposite gained existence. Lord ASHBURTON said, that if such were the opi nion of the Noble Lord who had just sat down, it would also lead to the conclusion that it was perfectly legal and constitutional for the people to join together and raise a great league for the purpose of disseminatiug the opinions that body entertained. If so, then the public were all on ono side, and if the Parliament had been lagging behind, as the Noble Lord had stated, no harm could result, for there was no necessity to urge upon them to do anything while the people did it fee themselves. According to the doctrine of the Noble Lord the people, in doing what his Noble Friend near him had complaiced of, were only exercising constitutional right. But in his (Lord Ashburton's) opinion, if this unconstitutional interference with other constituencies by the League had not taken place, and other counties were let alone, then the real opinion of those constitu encies would be known to Parliament. VAN DIEMEN'S LAND. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE postponed the pre sentation of the petition (of which he had given notice) from the inhabitants of Van Diemen's Land, respecting convict labourers, till that day week, by which time their Lordships would have had an opportunity of read ing the papers which treated of the colony. RIO DE LA PLATA. Lord BEAUMONT, in rising to move for the corres pondence which had taken place between this and other countries, with regard to the intervention in the affairs of Rio de la Plata, trusted that he might be allowed to place before their Lordships the circumstances which had led to this intervention.—(Hear, hear.) He was induced to review the motives which had actuated England in this instance, because he considered that the course the Noble Earl opposite (Lord Aber deen) had pursued was a most impolitic one, and at variance with the principles which the Government of this country had ever adopted. At the termination of the war between the Brazils and the Argentine Republic, a convention was entered into in 1828, constituting an independent republic , uilder . the name of Uruguay. By the terms of that convention ' it was agreed as between the two Powers of the B raz ilsahou b e and the Argentine Confede ration,ofthe Brazilstheeon shtoasteeotfThtaohteU that mr u ignui Minister conventionronlystituted an independent names signed were and t of Buenos Ayres. He would now proceed to explai T : h roceedings con nectedconyention took gent a in s t er c ious subsequent to that the per iod r with the pending dispute. place in 1828, but dispute arose between two parties in Con federation. A war in consequence burst out b etween these two parties, the one of which were known by the name of Unitarians, and the other as Federalists. General Rosas was at the head of the Federal party, and the leader of the Unitarians was Riviera. About this time it was well known that the President of Buenos Ayres WAS assassinated, w hen General Rosas , at the head of the Argentine Confederati o n, attacked Monte Video. Everything was done to establish order as with Monte in the Argentine Confeder ation, as w ell Video, but it so happened that a number of the Unitarians, under the head of Genera,' Roses, collected and made an attack on Monte Video. The Noble Lord then proceeded to enter isle the particulars of the sub sequent disputes, contending that. the French had inter fered in a most unjustifiable and improper manner. General Oribe had been freely elected the President of the Banda Oriental, and had inter fered in the affairs of that republic against the Unitarian party, who had fled from Buenos Ayres ; and, along with some foreigners, had endeavoured to regain their footing in the Argentine Confederation. General Riviera expected to come to terms of peace with Buenos Ayres, but ho did net do so. He continued to invade the Argentine Confederation. He was subse quently defeated, and in a short time General Oribe succeeded in placing himself between Riviera and Buenos Ayres. Oribe certainly invaded the Argentine territory, but he did so for the sole purpose of supporting the legitimate authority. It was in this state of affairs that the Noble Earl opposite, at the instigation of the Viscount Abrantes, thought proper to interfere in this matter. The people of Monte Video mere in favour of the legitimate autho rity. The party in the town who supported Riviera was composed of a few French and Italians. At one time there were only 180 of the inhabitants armed, and shortly after that number was reduced to 50; but then England interfered. But for this interference, a permanent peace would have ensued. Our interference having come too late, the result was that we had caused more Lloody scenes than if we had eo' stepped in at all. The object put fore art! by the Noble Earl, amongst others, was to throw open a certain river—the river Capava—for the benefit of com merce. Now this river belonged to the Argentine Confederacy, and if this country thought proper to in terfere with the rights of that country, the Americans might turn round and say that they would come down the river St. Lawrence. Again, he would wish to know whether there existed a convention between England and France on the sub ject ? Could anything be more contrary to practice, more dangerous than for two great and powerful States, naturally supposed to be ambitious of conquest, to interfere with States w here the people were led to believethat there existed no convention ? They acted without conven tion, or without any positive deed which could be shown to be an instruction from the Minister. How was France bound by any deed that she did not possess the same dangerous and aggressive object ? There might be an understanding ; blit if there was, let it be produced. Such a course of proceeding was most ruinous to British commerce, as would be seen here after. He contended that such ac , ease of proceeding was followed up for tho mere purpose of supporting a faction—an armed and rebellious faction in Monte Vide. , , who were getting up every kind of evil passion ; and for them alone had the British Government interfered against General Roses and the state of Buenos Ayres. If they would allow him he would look into a document, the only one that had been sent by the Governor, in explanation of such extraordinary conduct. In the first instance, he stated the determination of the Government to accomplish its object by a coalition with France, with which country they would, if necessary, unite their interests for the acomplishment of their object. That was to say, in other words, that he had resolved to enforce this declaration, which would in fact be a declaration directly contrary to the laws of nations. The Noble Lord has said that Buenos Ayres had a right to wage war if it thought proper. No doubt it had ; but this was not a declaration of war by one nation against another—it was more like an individual quarrel against their Arg entine allies. It was not a war against the Argentine State, but an effort of that State against a faction of foreigners. General Oribe and General Riviera had been elected by the unani mous voice of the people, and gave every satisfaction, and when both Governments had been established and settled, the recommendation of the Noble Lord was, that both should be upset, which would of course involve the removal of those two generals, and the result would be, not to establish a better system of government, but to re-establish in fact this faction of foreigners, for he knew of no others that could be sub stituted. Then he said that he would be prepared to enforce the free navigation of the River Plate. However, the Noble Earl seemed to have seen the errors into which he had fallen when writing this dispatch, and in a further dispatch he abandoned the idea of expelling both Governments. He had now stated, and stated very briefly, all the circumstances which had led to the intervention of the ten countries. He had done so without reflecting on the conduct of the officers and those who were engaged in those matters. He had no doubt that they had acted according to the in structions received from the Noble Earl, and his remarks, therefore, only referred to the Government at home. Ile re peated that he did not wish to infer anything against the infe rior diplomatic corps or the officers of the fleet. Before he concluded, their Lordships would allow him to state that he was not a mere epologist for General Rosas. His sanguinary disposition he (Lo-d Beaumont) believed had been enormously exaggerated, and if the judgment of Rosas were measured ac cording to the scale of morals and opinions in that country, he would stand fence d far superior to the mass of those who had risen to power. If the Noble Earl would call to recollection what had taken place in Mexico and other republics, he would see that General Roses did not alone revel in those sanguinary habits which were attributed to him by a publication printed in Monte Video, and purporting to be the life of General Relies. The Noble Lord concluded by moving for the pipers for which he had given notice. The Earl of ABERDEEN said that the attention of his Noble Friend opposite had been so often directed to the affairs of the Turkish empire, that he trusted this diversion to the western world signified that he had left things there in a satisfac'ory condition. The Noble Lord had described the in terference of England and France in the affairs of La Plata as unnecessary and unjust. He ventured to say, that if there ever was a case in which proceedings of this kind were justifiable, it was that which had taken place with regard to La Plata.—(Hear, hear.) The war had been carried on in a manner revolting to hu manity—a war which, is truth, had no national object what ever, was carried on on no intelligible or public grounds, but was founded entirely on personal hatred and party rancour. It was rare, indeed, that any war in his mind was just or wise ; but this war in the river Plate was not only wicked, but was the most senseless that had ever occurred. It had been during the whole course of this war an object of Great Britain to arrest, if possible, its ; regress. In 1841 the Noble Lord who preceeded him ( the Earl of Aberdeen), in the office which he had the honour to hold, directed her Majesty's Minister at Buenos Ayres to press the mediation of Great Britain on that Government, with a view of putting an end to the hostilities which existed. That offer was refused. In the following year an opportunity had arisen in which the united proposal of England and France to mediate between the parties would be attended with some success. That joint mediation was strongly represented to the contending parties. It was accepted readily by Monte Video, but was rejected by Buenos Ayres. That was in the autumn of 184, and the efforts of this country were unsuccessful. For two years nothing was done. Petitions had been presented to both the Governments of France and England to interfere in order to effect a settlement of the dispute between the two countries. The Noble Lord thought they had gone out of their way to interfere in this matter, but when it was considered how the state of things in terfered with the neighbouring States and settlements and af fected the commerce of that part of the world, he thought it was right that some endeavour should be made to effect a set tlement. In 1844 the Governments of France and England were again implored to mediate, and the two Governments agreed f r o offer their mediatiation a third time, and arranged that if the parties would not agree to a peaceable settlement, and if such was refused, then to coerce them into that step. The attempt was in vain, and accordingly instructions on the part of the two Governments were sent out but those instruc tions evinced no hostile views towards General Rosas or to wards Buenos Ayres. The instructions were to act in a fair and impartial spirit towards both countries, and to use every means to induce the Government of Buenos Ayres to listen to their mediation. The offer was refused and the ulterior steps complained of were then taken. The people of that country thought that the interference of England and France was not sincere in the matter. They had since found that this union was established for no other object than the bringing about of a lasting peace. He was happy to be able to state, that whatever were the opinions of certain parties in the United States, the Government of that country had disavowed the acts of their agents in South America. Although the Noble Lord had said that this country was not a party to the construction of that state, still it was carried by the friendly interference of this country. It would be a most unfortunate thing if General Rosas were allowed to take pos session of both sides of the River Plate.- The Government had no objection to General Riviera or General Roses, provided they had the support of the people, hut this they had not. General Riviera was the Lieutenant of General Rosas, and the troops were entirely under their control. He wished to say a word as regarded the opening of the tri butary rivers—that would be accomplished lawfully and peace ably ; and he agreed with the Noble Lord, and had only to re peat the sentiments which he had often before uttered in that House, namely, that to the navigation of the river referred to by the Noble Lord, they cannot pretend to exercise any claim. Such could not be established as long as they were negotiating with Buenos Ayres, with which state he hoped they would long maintain friendly relations. Very recently Genera! Rosas had made a proposal for a settlement, on grounds which were then not admissible, but which, he hoped, would soon be ac ceptable. He hoped the Noble Lord would nut think it neces. sary to press his motion for the papers referred to ; and he hoped also that the House would understacd his ( the Noble Lord's) discretion in not entering into a defence of the conduct of the Government, or of the character of the individual at its head. Again, under the circumstances, he hoped the Noble Lord would not press his motion. Lord COLCHESTER would wish to say a few words on this discussion. He cordially concurred in the intentions of the Government of the country to close the warfare that had been going on in the River Plate. The Noble Lord had stated that he had two reasons for recommending this course, the one was, the restoration of peace, and the other was, to provide for the independence of that stale. But he ( Lord Colchester) was of opinion that the means which the Noble Lord proposed for accomplishing those objects was not such as, in his opinion, would be likely to succeed. The Noble Lord had stated that this was a war without an object, but he (Lord"Colchester) did not think that that was quite a correct description of it. He would not trouble the House by going over again the details of the Noble Lord ; but it was quite apparent from what he had heard the Noble Lord state that the object of General Rosas was to restore a friendly understanding The Noble Lord then referred to a pamphlet he held in his hand, from which he quoted the amount of the population of Monte Video, and the other states, and then continued—lf the war had been brought to an end by the interference of Great Britain, it would, no doubt, have been a desirable object; but the result had only been, that a great falling off had taken place in their trade with that country. The speech of the Noble Earl that night might do much good; for, of course, it would be known over the world. The Noble Lord then went into an exposition of General Resat' character, stating that he belonged to a highly respectable family, and that he believed the character of that General was as good and respectable as many in this country employed in the most important offices. When they considered what barbarities characterised civil wars in all countries, and especially in Spain, they would view in a different light the proceedings of General Rosas. Lord BEAUMONT said, after the explanation of the Noble Lord (the Earl of Aberdeen) he would withdraw his moti in. He hoped that the explanation he had given would go out to South America, as it was calculated to do a great amount of good. The Duke of WELLINGTON wished to ask the Noble Lord a question. The Noble Lord had said that Oribe was the first president. If he (the Duke of Wellington) recollected aright, General Riviera was the first president. Lord BEAUMONT replied that General Riviera served his regular term of office, and then a new president was elected i r n i)etiri a ieor s ds i : m w il h ar manlier to the President of the United States. General Oribe o throughwer et w h was elected, interventionel opposede et e to him , h b im u t of hbefore was expe ll ed . French h e x p el had party , ei fulfil led .a s s Hi shelter in Buenos Ayres, where 1 was persued, the war being c w a a r s r i t e h d u e s v i e n n v a t d o m l. , h: n s d v Vi s i ‘ c a rf s i t n h a t t c ity. e t ed took hbi; An independent state Lavelle lost his life. retreat from this place that The motion was then withdrawn. messengers from the Commons brought up the Gra n d J ury Presentment (Ireland) Bill and the Drainage (Ireland) Bill. SELECT COMMITTEES. Earl GREY gave notice that he would next week move a THE SUN; LONDON,FRIDA Y MORN IN°, FEBRUARY 20, 1846. resolution respecting Select Committees, in conformity with the suggestion made to him by the Noble Dukz opposite (Wellington). STATE OF IRELAND. Earl GREY would take that opportunity of asking his Noble. Friend opposite what course he intended to take, on Monday, in moving the second reading of the Bill he had in troduced for the better protection of life and property in Ire lard? He had understood that some intimation had been given that a general statement would be made as to the policy which the Government intended to pursue with regard to Ireland. The Earl of ST. GERMANS said his Noble Friend bad given him notice of his question, r.nd he had in consequence communicated with his Right Hon. Friend at the bead of the Government, and he had stated that he bad given no intima tion such as that to which his Noble Friend had referred. On Monday next, however, he (the Earl of St. G ermans ), i n moving the second reading of the Bill which had been alluded to, would endeavour to state the grounds en which, her Ma jesty's Government were prepared to found the proposition fer that. measure. It would be inconvenient for him at that mo ment to make a statement. It would be competent, however, for the Noble Lord, when that statement was made, should it not meet his approbation, to take other step..—.( Hear hear.) The NOBLE Loan then brought up the report on the was ordered to lie on the table. Works (Ireland) Bill , v. hick The LORD CHANCELLOR moved the first reading of a Bill for the revision of Charitable Trusts. The Bill e as read a first time. The House then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMOAS, Thursday, Feb. 19. The SPEAKER took the Chair at ten minutes before Four o'clock. NEW MEMBERS. Mr. T. O'BRIEN took the oaths and his seat for the city of Cashel, in the room of Dr. Stock, who has ac cepted the office of Steward of the Chiltern Hundreds. Alr. LOCKHART took the oaths and his seat for the county of Selkirk. RAILWAY BUSINESS. The following railway Bills were read a second time, and were ordered to be committed :—London and South Western Railway (Farnham and Alton Branch) ; Lon don and Brighton Railway (East Grinstead Branch) ; Manchester, Sheffield, and Midland Junction Railway ; Wisbeach, St. Ives, and Cambridge Junction Railway ; and Brighton, Lewes, and . Hastings Railway Devia tions, and Eastbourne, Hadaham, beaford, and New haven Branches. _ _ The London and York Railway Bill was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time. Mr. GREENE moved that no.notiee for a Committee on a petition for a private Bill bo received at the private Bill-office which shall fix for the first meeting of suc'l committee any day later than Friday, the 6th das of March next. That no notice of p..saponement of any Committee be received at the Private Bill office ex cept by the authority of the Committee on Petitions for private Bills. That no private Bill be read a first time later than the next day but one after the report of the Cominttee on Petitions, or of the Standing Orders' Com mittee, on such Bill, as the case may be, Shall have been laid on the table, except by special order of the House. That there be no more than twenty-one clear days be tween the first reading of any private Bill, not being a railway Bill, and the second reading thereof, except by special order of the House. That no private Bill, not being a railway Bill, which shall now have been read a first time, shall be read a second time after ten clear days from this day, except by special order of the House.--Motion agreed to. Mr. WOOD presented several petitions in favour of the West Riding Union Railway Bill from various places in Yorkshire. STANDING ORDERS. Lord GRANVILLE SOMERSET moved that Nos. 7,8, and 9, of standing order 87, be rescinded.— Agreed to. THE MACCLESFIELD AND LICHFIELD RAILWAY. Mr. :MINTZ withdrew the petition intended to be pr seated in avour of the Macclesfield and Lichfield Railway. CHURNET VALLEY BRANCH AND NORTH STAFFORDSHIRE RAILWAY. The same LION. MEMBER also presented a petition in favour of the above-named railway Bill. THE CORN LAWS. • Mr. OSWALD presented a petition from the city of Glasgow, praying the House to pass into a law the propos:d of her Majesty's Government in favour of tree trade. Mr. BROTHERTON also presented a petition, signed by 2,000 of the inhabitants of Ratcliffe and Ptlkington, to the same effect. Sir W. SOMERVILLE presented a petition from Drogheda, to the same effect. Mr. SMYTHE presented a petition from a Peace So ciety deprecating war. Captain HEATHCOTE presented a petition from Plymouth (as we un lerstood), signed by upwards of 2,000 inhabitants, in favour of the Government measure. Mr. DUNCAN presented a petition from Gravesend, in the county of Kent, signed by the Mayor and Alder men, in favour of the Government measure. Mr. GISBORNE presented a number of petitions to the same effect. HANDLOOM WEAVERS. Lord G. I3ENTINCK presented a petition, signed by 4,756 handloom weavers in Spitalfieids. The peti tioners stated that they viewed with alarm the sweeping changes proposed by the kloverment, supported by the cry of cheap bread, which, in the opinion of the peti tioners meant low wages, therefore they prayed this [lou e not to sanction the proposed measure. CHARTIST CONVICTS. Mr. SHARMAN CRAWFORD presented a petition from Lancaster, signed by 4,000 operatives of the town; also a petition from Airdrie, in Scotland; praying for the I.beration of ,Frost, and Jones. • TEN HOURS' BILL. Mr. COOPER presented p4:titions from Wigan, and several other places, in favour of the Ten Hours' Bill. METROi'OLITAN DISTRICT ASYLUMS. PATTISON presented a petition from the guardians of the Vest London Union against the esta blishment of district asylums. Sir T. ACLAND presented several petitions from several parts . of Devonthire, praying that the House would not sanction any measure for repealing the pro tective duties. Mr. B. ESCOTT presented a petition, signed by a large number of the inhabitants of the city of Win chest, r, expressing their satisfaction at the measure then under the consideration of the House, and re gretting that the repeal of the corn•laws was not effected immediately. Mr. IL lIINDE gave notice of his intention to put a question to the Vice-President of the Board of Trade, in order to know if it was the intention of Government to make any proposition founded on the report of the Gauge Commi sinners. LAW OF SETTLEMENT, Mr. WODEHOUSE said, that on Tuesday last he gave notice of his intention to put a question to the First Lori of the Treasury on the subject of the proposed new law of settlement ; and he had been given to understand that the Right Honourable Baronet the Secretary of State for the Home Depart ment was now prepared to give him an answer. lie wished to know when the in w measure alluded to alme short time ago by the Right Hon. Baronet, the First Lord of the Treasury, was likely to be laid upon the table of the House ? _ _ Sir JAMES GRAHAM slid the Bill was already prepared, and it was his intention, at an early period, to lay it upon the table of the House, but it was not his intention to press it forward, or bring on the di scuss i on upon it until the measures relating to the food of the people had been passed into a law.—(H ear, h ear.) An HON. MEMBER wished to know if th e Bill wou ld i provide if a live years' residence n a particular parish would give a person a settlement. S'r JAMES GRAHAM declined to enter into par ticulars. COUNTY WORKS PRESENTMENT (IRELAND) BILL. the House.—(Great laughter.) He would, however, give his vote without reference to any party, as his object always was, and would continue to be, the improve ment in the condition of all the lower and mid dle classes.— (Loud cheers and laughter.) But "Man, proud man, dressed in a little brief authority, Plays such fantastic tricks before high Heaven, As make the angels weep."—(Great laughter.) He asked the House, he asked the country, why were they deprived of the presence of these Right Hon. Gentlemen. Echo answered, why? and the voice of an ttraged cot dry—(L )ud laughter)—demanded why Mr. Gladstone did not come forward to represent Newark. The answer was, 'because the Government, of which the Right Honourable Gentleman was a member, was in opposition to .the views of the patrons of Newark. and they had ordered their country agent to look out for some more tractable Member —(Hear, hear.) Nearly the same circumstances had taken place in the representation of Chichester and Buckingham, because their Graces of Buckingham and Richmond were not the same Ivey of thinking as the Minister. They therefore returned two inexperienced youths.—(Loud laughter)—and the country lost the services of Sir Thomas Fremantle, whose loss seemed irreparable—(Hear, hear, and cheers)—at the present moment, as he was preparing a number of Bills that would confer vast benefits on Ireland. He would now call the attention of the House to the bo roughs of Buckingham, Chichester, and Woodstock, and he would read a c' py of his charges in reference to them, for the sake of making the case Vainer. [The Hon. Member then read the standing orders of the House on the interference of Peers in the election of Members of Parliament down to the 14th of D, comber, 1699, and prooeeded to detail the precedents which the records of Parliament presented on the subject.] On the 18th of November, 1702, a case occurred, when a charge was preferred by Sir John Yukon ham against Dr. Boyle, the Bishop of Worcester. The consequence of this was that an inquiry was made into the nature of the settlement into which the 'Go vernment had entered. On inquiry, and under the ;cir cumstances, it was decided that the Bishop of Wor cester had committed a breach of the privileges of the House, and an address was presented to her Majt sty, the Sovereigu of the time, Queen Anne, to advise her to remove the Bishop of Worcester fom the post of Lord Almoner to the Crown. The de cision had been confirmed by the Learned Attorney- General of the period. Another circumstance had occurred which had respect to the Bishop of Carlisle, and in which Parliament had felt it a duty to interfere. In that case the decision -of the House was shown by a majority of 156 against a minority of 136. He might refer to a fuller case, of the Duke of Chaudos, w here; in consequence of an interference with the town of Southampton, Sir James Bridges had been deemed guilty of a breach of the privi• leges of the House. This was allowed to be a breach of the privileges of the House. He trusted, therefore, that that House would come to the same opinion which he had already formed, and which was quite in conformity with the opinion of the Attorney-General on the question. He then came to the boroughs against which he brought the charge. Ile had in his hand a book called "Dodd's Parliamentary Companion," in page 101 of which it was openly and unreservedly stated that the borough of Chi cheater was under the influence of the Duke of Bucking ham. He found that the Members returned for this borough were Arthur Lennox and John Abel Smith. With John A. Smith he did not wish to have anything to do. He believed that the election of Lord Arthur Lennox for Chichester in 1841 was carried by the Conservative interest. The next election for Chichester was in the last year, when Lord Arthur Lennox, doubtless in consequence of his talent and qualification, was promoted to the office. of Clerk to the Ordnance. He was again elected for Chichester without op position—at least he found on the notices of the House, dated January 22d; 1845, an entry of the . fact of Lord A. Lennox having taken his seat. One would have supposed ti. at for that time the Noble Lord was secure in his seat ; but no, he found in the returns that he had accepted the Chiltern Hundreds on the 3d of Feb ruary, and the seat for Chichester was again vacant. Now, with respect to the city of Chichester, he verily believed that the rights, liberties, and privileges of the Commons of England had been infringed by Charles Gordon Lennox, Duke of Richmond, and Lord Lieu tenant of the county of Sussex ; for, in the first place, that eoble.personsge had been Instrumental in procuring the resignation of a seat in that House by the late representative of Chichester, Lord Arthur Lennox, and had been immediately concerned in procuring the return of its present representative, Charles Henry .Gordon, Lord Lennox. Ile now came to another ease, viz., that of Newark, and he found, in reference to that be rough, " Dodd's Parliamentary Companion," page 17, stated openly, unreservedly, and directly that the Dike of Newcastle exercised considerable influence in the election of its representatives. Now, the Members returned by thi: influence in 1841 were Lord John Mariners and William Gladstone, Esq., but the latter some short titno ago re signed his seat, and John Stuart, Esq., was returned by the same influence to serve in his stead. —(Some impatience was here manifested by several Hon. Members, whilst others cried "Go on.") The Hon. Member then proceeded to complain of a similar unconstitutemal interference being continually made by the Duke of Marlberough with respect to the election of the member for Woodstock. In proof ofhis assertion he quoted theinstance of Sir F. Thr siger return previously to his appointment to the Attorney Ge neralship of England. All this, he verily believed,he should be able to prove ; and, in addition, that the Duke o Marlborough's og , nt, whose name was Hewitt (as w. understood) hail been appointed by that nobleman to tilt the effiee of a Magistrate and Deputy-Lieutenant of the county, as a reward for a ding and obtaining Mr. Thesiger's return for that borough. He had therefore to state in his place in Parliament that the privileges of the Commons of the United Kingdom had been infringed by George Spencer Churchill, Lord-Lieutenant of the county of Oxford, and Duke of alai-thorough, in the election of a representative far the , borough, in 1844, when his son, the Marquis of Blandford, was returned; in 1845, when Viscount Loftus was returned; and at the election of its present representative, Lord Alfieri Chutcbill ; which, as he said, he should be able to establish before a Committee of the House. Then, with respect to the borough of Buckingham— but he ( Mr. Collett) hEd so many in stances in which the privileges of that House had been in fringed by Peers of the realm that he had some hesitation in calling attention to the whole of them fur fear of wearying the House.—( Cries of "Go on.") Well, then, the same remarks applied with equal truth to the election of Sir Thomas Fremantle and the Marquis of Chandos in the present-month, without opposition, to represent that borough in Parliament. With respect to that borough, he had to state in Parliament— ( Signs of impatience on the part of the House, and laughter.) Gentlemen might think it a laughing matter, but he did not think it was. The subject was of the highest importance—it affected their privileges, which they ought to protect; as before he had to state in his place in Parliament that the privileges of that House had been infringed by the Duke of Buckingham and Chandos with respect to the elect ons of Sir Thomas Fre mantle and its present representative, the Marquis of Chandos. Having made these charges, which he had reduced to writing, he begged to tender them to Mr. Speaker, and concluded by moving for a Committee of Privileges, to inquire into the causes that led to the vacation of their seats in this House by the Members lately representing in Parliament the city of Chi chester and the boroughs of Newark, Woodstock, and Buck ingham ; also to make inquiries as to the elections of the Mem bers now representing in Parliament the said city and the said three boroughs, and to report whether or not in any, and if so in what cases, either as to vacation or election, the resolution of this House had been infringed. The charges and motions of the Hon. Member having been read, Mr. WILLIAMS rose and said he did not expect to have been called upon to second the motion of his Hon. Fr lend. He expected that the Noble Lord the Member for Buckingham (the Marquis of Chandos) or the Noble Lord the Member for Chichester (Lord H. Lennox) would have been anxious to have come forward to second this motion —( Hear, hear) —in order that an inquiry might be instituted into those grave charges which had been made against those two Noble Lords, and the still more serious charges against their Noble fathers. He expected that some Member of her Majesty's Govertiment would have made some answer to a motion of so much importance involving so deep a stain upon the character of this House, if the chages contained in that motion could be proved. When a similar motion was brought forward, some years, since, by an Hon. Member (Mr. Manners) charging a' member of the then Noble House of Holland, who had to a great extent been elected by the corrupt influence of certain Peers. Upon that occasion the Prime Minister of the country ( Lord Castlereagh) stood up in his place, and said that such a Committee was to tally unnecessary, from the notoriety of the fact, that Members of that House were viewed by such influences under the borough mongering system of that day. The fact was as notorious as the sun shining at noon day. ( Hear, lie sr. ) Wes the Hume to understand that peers of the realm were to trample on the most important sessional order of that [louse, and also to stain the character of their proceedings by si riding parties to represent and maintain their position at the expense of the country at large. Those were charges that the House of Commons ought not permit to rest without inquiry. Two or three years ago an Hon. Member had stated that he believed certain members 'were returned to the House by the grossest bribery acid corruption. He (Mr. Wil lams) believed that a committee then appointed stated that the tact,, were fully proved, but that no imputation coull be cast on the parties charged with using improper influence. The Hon. Member for Bath stopped very short of what he then ought to have done. The charge against these Noble Dukes—a charge brought by Mr. Bathurst—was, that they had used their in fluence and power, and demanded certain members of that House to resign their seats, because those members felt it their duty to support measures introduced by Government, because those measures we re opposed to the influence and interests of those Noble Dukes, and ordered those Members to resign in consequence. These were charges which placed the House of Commons in the deepest state of degradation, and involved such serious charges as should not be slightly passed over. He (Mr. Williams) asserted- that the House of Commons were bound to inquire, not because those Peers had any influence in their personal character—(Cries of " Oh, oh ")—but oecause their property gave them an influence which was exercised un fairly by those Noble Lords. He spoke of them as men, but it was well known their great property had a vast influence in procuring Members sears in that house. The question was one of great importance to the country, because her Majesty's Government had brought forward measures of great impor tance to the nation, and the country felt that those Peers seat persons to represent places in that House for the purpose of thwarting those measures. When such grave charges were brought against the character of the House, it behoved them to inquire whether such influence was exerted, and when particular cases were brought under their notice, he did not know how they could refu.e to grant such inquiry without surrendering their characters. The greatest indignity had been cast upon her Majesty's Government by those very Dukes. They charged the Right Hon. Baronet with the most unworthy conduct.--(Cries of " No, no.") He said, that charges most gross and calumnious had been made. But he would tell them, that the Right Hon. Baronet was quite as much in terested in land as any of them.—( Cheers.) And the differ ence that exists between them and him was simply this—he, (Sir R. Peel) made his private interests give way to the public good, while they exclaimed that they cared not for the public interest if it interfered with theirs. They cared not whether the public good was to be sacrificed, provided their own private interests were attended to. This selfish and mercenary feeling ought not, in his opinion, to be entertained by those who as sumed to themselves a title of Gentlemen of England. Such a manifestation of feeling on the part of the Noble Dukes and their supporters would not be endured by the people of this country, and he considered that it ought not to be endured. Was it to be supposed that after that chkrge had been proved against them the country would suffer this House to be tainted with the inputation which such proceedings would necessarily On the motion of Sir JAMES GRAHAM., this Bill was read a third time and passed. DRAINAGE (IRELAND) BILL. This Bia was read a th)rd time and passed. Sir J. GRAIIAM explAued that under the former Act the assent of two-thirds of the parties interested in the drainage of c:-rtain districts was necessary before a plan of that purpose could be adopted. The Bill ip its original state provided that the onus probandi should fall on the dissensients. :The Honourable Gentleman, the Member for Kildare, had, howeVer, suggested that the old plan should be adlpted, which had been agreed to, and a provision to that effect was introduced into the Bill. INTERFERENCE AT ELECTIONS. Mr. COLLETT stated that before he brought forward his motion, of which he had given notice, he wished to have the standing orders upon the subject read. This request having been complied with, the lion. Member pro ceeded to state that he had always been an advocate for short speeches,and upon the present occasion he would not act in opposition to his conviction, but as no other Hon. Member had given any notice upon the present subject he considered the occasion opportune for trespassing a short time on the attention of the House.—(Considera ble laughter was caused in the House in consequence of the Ilon. Member reading his speech.) The Commons (continued the Hon. Member, glancing at his paper) had suffered by the interference of Lords of Parliament, Peer s and Prelates, at their elections. He (Mr. Collett) assured the House, that in default of a better man, he considered it his public duty to call the attention of the House to this infringement of the Lords on the liberties, the privileges, and the standing orders of this House. —(Laughter and cries of "Order.") He did not himself propose any fresh remedy ; he considered the law, as it stood sufficient for the purpose. He had commenced by getting their clerk to read to them the standing (alders of the House upon the subjecs.— (Considerable laughter, in consequence of the Hon. Member's continued glances at his paper.) He . should, upon this occasion move for a Committee of Privileges to inquire into this point, and report the result of their inquiry to this House. He would then have an oppor tunity of showing the country the defects of the Reform Bill, and also how the country was mocked by this Bill in not obtaining those benefits, which had been presented to them by the Noble Lord the Member for the City of Lcnd.m. Numerous instances were well known where improper use was made by parties to influence others in pr;curing seats in that House.—(Cries of " Order , o rder. ") The SPEAKER said he hoped the Hon. Gentleman was not readily?: his speech.—(Shouts of laughter.) Mr. COLLETT said he always endeavoured to check wr( ng by doing right. He was sorry to see a Member of Parliament not returned to that House after vacating his seat, while others more inefficient succeeed to that honour.—(Laughter.) Her Majesty was pleased to ap point a certain Hon. Gentleman to an office of high trust and honour—he meant the Secretary to the Colonies. He was a gentleman of much distinguished ability and talent, and one who would be very useful to the Right Honourable Baronet on the present occasion in forwarding the measure now befoi e throw upon them? He (Mr. Williams) thought that, instead the political honour and consistency, which were not to be of the Noble Dukes pursuing such a line of c o n d uc t as that found_ in any of the writines of political economists. If De charged against them by the Hon. Member for Athlone, they had delayed from taking a part in the debate, he was not pee . : ought much rather to follow the example of the Right Hon. vented by any doubts on the expediency of their repeal. es Baronet opposite, who, seeing the foreign competion to which was his fortune to go down into Warwickshire some days eget '. the manufactures of this country wer e su bj ec t e d, an d see i ng t h e and he met a gentleman who was a large grazier in that pa necessity of putting the country in such a position as to be able of' the country. He met him galloping along the road aha, to meet—(Cries of question, question). H e b e li eve d th a t h e fearful pace. He (Lord Duncan) said te him, "My VI was speaking to the question, and he was sur p r i se d th at H on . friend, where are you going ?" " O Gentlemen opposite were so dull and se nse l ess as no t t o b e a bl e Si r R o b er t Pe e l h a ve beena h' -ruining he, of" "you and to see that he was speaking to the question —( Hear; hear, and I read the speech of Mr. Miles—he is the ghat , laughter:) lie thought this was a subject d e cid e dly re q u i r i ng oracle of us a gr iculturists.—( Laughter. ) He ne ver the decishm of the House of Commons,, and he hoped that exaggerates, and he has been a-telling of us that in America that House would give its support to a motion the object of there are no less than 5,500,000 men employed in building an which was to rectify its own positionevith he country. He con- ark, ha which they will bring over immense quantitieso ceived that itwas only due tb the characters of innoeent me n that cows and cattle, in order to sell them in the Bristel mark e t be they should be placed in a position of w hi c h th ey were wo rth y . —( L aug ht er )— an d h e says th a t A mer ican pork wil l eee He had expressed his opinion, and he trusted that the House three-halfpence a pound, while prime pork will be only two would bear him out in the belief that it was necessary th at t h e p en ce. G e t out o f t h e wa y, an d l et me rus h into the teareett e country should be put in full possession o f the c i rcums t ances . A n d he did go i n t o th e mar k e t, an d he sold his cattle, which le Sir ROBERT PEEL was somewhat surprised at the matter him was a serious loss. He (Lord Duncan) met the sle d that had been introduced by the Hon. G en tl eman w h o h a d agriculturi s t th e o th er d a y, an d h e sa id t o him, " Well, , just sat down. He did not understand what relati o n th e ma tt e r you sell all your corn in th e ma r k e t ?" He replied." el e ,o , V. in hand had to do with the main subject of the debate. He Lord, I did not." " Why, i thought (contit ued the Pe t •, was desirous of putting the motion on its proper bearing, and Lord) that you would have followed the advice of yourf te l he could not see what necessary relation there was between oracle, the Member for Somersetshire." To thishereplied , ' et i the motion of the Hon. Member and the main discussion of I've been gammoned by him before, and I'll never begamte° the evening, via. the corn-laws. He believed the Hon. again."—(Laughter.) When the Hoe. Gentleman tiiib: Gentleman had entirely mistaken the position which he had Member for Somerset made his prophecies formerly en on : taken up, and he must tell the Hon. Gentleman he was Most subject, they had not been realised; and for his ( Lord D completely completely mistaken, if he supposed himself liable to any alle can's) part he would prefer giving c re d e nce to the proith ee ,; Rations of censure on acco u nt of th e course w hi c h he had of the Right Hon. Baronet opposit e to tho s e o f the Hon. Gen es thought it his duty to pur sue . H e was no t aware th a t a n y man. The Hon. Member for Sunderland proposed to in tea. such imputation had been thrown out against him—he was not the public calamity by a public subscription. He a r g' ne r i :sti aware that any corrupt or selfish motives had dictated his line surprised him more than any other Hon. Gentleman who lire t• of conduct. He could distinctly say, no such feeling had ever addressed the House. He (Lord Duncan) was accustemf the ..- actuated him. He was not aware that any such motives had look upon the Hon. Gentleman rather as an enemy e to ever been imputed to him. Certain he was that they could agricultural interest—( Hear)—and if he expected atty gre at not influence his conduct at the present moment, Now it b " , a free-trader it was the Right Hon. Gentlemate— .) t f r of was far from his desire that the Peers should ever be deprived laughter.) He meant the Hon. Gentleman.—( Laugh ' of their roper influence in the election of Members of the House The Hon. Gentleman had said that about the year 18 41 t0g of Commons, He hoped the day would never come in which 1842 there was a great commercial depression, and that durno that portion of the Constitution would be deprived the last year a new change had come over them. ; hit , of its legitimate influence, and he was unable to refrain from Honourable Member for Sunderland contended that . tit , expressing his feelings on a subject of so much interest and change had not been owing te the recent alteration ie ~. importance. The Lord Lieut ena nt o f a coun ty m i g ht have tariff•but to an over-productio n of co rn in th e ir own on °t r t ea - devoted his life to th e p er f ormance o f hi s d u ty, an d m i g ht h av e ! Now, he was not aware th a t th e p r i c e o f fo re ign corn` r o d obtained respect and es te e m by it s p er f ormance . H e might . have any great influence o n th e E ng lish ma r k e t. He bought l a have set an exampl e o f i m p rovemen t t o hi s l a b ourers , and have , upon inquiry that whenever f or ei gn cor n could be boug" , - been at the head of the l oca l soc i e ty, no t b y hi s a ffl uence b u t 1255, a quarter, that it•ct,uld not be sold in this country le t r 1 by his worth, and nothing c o uld ex ti ngu i s h th e l eg itimate in.. i less price than the corn which wa s daily sold to the O a ," r t, fluence of such a man as th a t, an d G o d f or bid the day should i markets. He might take the instance of Prussia or Polanr arrive when real worth and virtue should not have their proper and yet what were the results? Why no difficulty schatev't; influence.—( Hear, hear.) They knew that such an influence I notwithstanding the outcry had been experienced by the ~,i did exist, and they might al s o thi n k it un p ar li amen t ar y, b u t a nufacturing population. A n d w h a t w as the thing orderttc7u tenantry out of respect fo r the f ee li ng , or i nc li na ti on , o f th e i r , under the name o f pretection? Why that the consumer sli .00 1 landlord, will adopt a particular course, and th e l ess th e a t- i pay high pri c es f or th e neccessar i es o f lif e; an d high Pi l o tempt at exercising an undue influence was made, the more , and high rents were accompanied by expensive outlays p 0 es they were ready to support th e f e eli ngs o f a v i r t uous l an dl or d. I part of th e p eo pl e . S uc h a system m i g h t d o very w ell in teedif. It was, therefore, impossible to prevent some influence being ' of plenty, but in years of scarcity matters assumed a very 0 . exerted; but was there any proof before the Haute that an , ferent aspect; and a n ev id ence had been given in th e ! t , unduelinfluence had been exercised ? What were the grounds i stance of the potat o crop , o f w hi c h so much h a d been 511 ,, on which the Honourable Alember went? "That the House I High prices were no benefit to the labourer, The labee r t e s r c l should take the matter into their consideration ?" If the House ' wages depended on the great cause efisupply and -demand. . -- . 8 was prepared to go upon grounds like that, there would always if the demand for labour was to increase in this country, .' IS be a demand for similar investigation. When he (Sir Robert need not be apprehensive - that the proposed measure 01; a , Peel) came into the House the Honourable Member was materially interfere with them. The rate of wages in Eelt_ is n e reading a copy 7of a petition presented by the inhabitants of was lower than the rate in America, but in order to have P i ta • Newark to the Duke of Newcastle, with regard to their repre- wages there must be high profits. The efflux of te a P br a sentation by a distinguished gentleman. On such foundations caused a competition and a decreased rate of wages, and %el, all of their time would be occupied in these discussions. The that was the case the labourer gradually reduced his food u ser ' Hon. Gentleman, as he (Sir R. Peel) verily believed, had not at length he was brought to the lowest ebb of subsitheef, adduced one single proof of any kind—plausible or actsal en and when such a state of things occurred same interfere'; which such a motion could be founded. He produced no was necessary. During the last century the landed ere et ee t bs letter proving any act of interference ; he produced no proof tor 3 had k. pt up the price of corn by attificial means• ii" by suggesting that any person in power had desired any con- years 1670 and 1690 the price was attempted to he kept lels stituency to vote in favour of any individual. He had heard passing an Act to cause the export a tion of co r n. The Pr es s ets '• the Hon. Gentleman was unable to produce any one fact, but of the Act stated that it w as e xp e di e nt t o export the 0 0 , , had made some extracts from a weekly paper. If they were corn, as it kept up the price to the benefit of the landowettio prepared such authority, there would be no end to That ws a n d ,one on the pretence of encouraging agricultur te l l their laboun Now, with respect to Buckinghamshire, his it was eality to increase the price of corn. For ri , , Right Honourable Friend, the late Secretary for Ireland, felt this country, in the year 1790, became an importing O n e l e r it as a point of honour due to his constituents, that it was in- anti the object of the Act was partially defeated. Th? roe , cnnsbent upon him to resign his seat. heiher rightly or hibitory Act of 1815 had been frequently referred to ro tes , wrongly, he (Sir R. Pe e l) w o uld not t a ke upon himself to course of the d e bate. It was i n or d e r to afford con • say, but he thou g ht it was diffieult to blame Honourable tion to the farmers. He would, with their perisibiest. Gentlemen for entert a i n i n g f ee li ngs o f thi s na t ure . quote the words of Mr. R o binson on the s u 'eat In a technical or constitutional point of view, how- Were they the aristocracy of the land, when the countrgel ever, he admitted that they were sent there as free agents, and asking to be led on against f ore i gn co mpetition, to held ac t irs it was incumbent upon them to be, in general, actuated by Such might be the opinion of the landlords of Buckingha m that principle.—(flear, hear.) But th e y c ould no t blame and Sussex, such mi g ht b e t h e o pi n i on o f Hon. 31 % 110 .0 some Gentlemen if a sense o f private hon ou r and personal teel-e opposite; but he was pr ou d an d h ap py t o sa y that the I ors ing induced them to over c om e these strictly constitutional in that part of the country with w hi c h he was connect e d b est. rules. Now, with regard t o hi s Hon. F r iend the late Member ready and willing to assist the p e ople in this laudable e J o ys for N o tti ng h am , h e b e li eve d h e was sent t h ere b y hi s cone ti- H e s t oo d th er e as an i n d epen d ent M em b er , ne t to esphlin e s e se tuents to maintain the existing corn-laws, not at the suggestion thing he might have said in or out of th at House , t o tt t o of any P eer , h ut act i ng upon t h e i r own fee li ngs an d w i s h es ; dicate a pledge which he had given on the hustings, etet an n et and they ce r t a i n l y , ca ll ed upon h im to res i gn hi s seat w h en • h e w hi c h h e h ope d h a d b een g i ven b y ot h er Hon. elenaur''esisl evinced a disposition to support a charge in the corn-laws. It support those measures which he believed would oe beer f Os could not be urced t h at t h e N o b le L ord oug h t to h ave di sre- to t h e country. Believing that this would be the effect 0 ... ,be garded this reque s t, b ecause hi s const i tuents would turn roun d measure b roug h t forward by her Ma j esty ' s Government elm and say he had no right to have given any pledges, but should lieving that it would tend to promote and advance th e n i e n elti have left himself open to take wh a t course h e t h ought proper, after f actures of t h e country—believi n g, too, that that interest s ees hearing the disscussions up o n partic u l ar measures ; b ut h av i ng not b e promote d w i t h out b enefit i ng agr i cu l tute , be ,f"rtt.' given a distinct pledge that he would mainta i n, or d o hi s b est to s h ou ld give to the measure his honest and humbie suPr e t p eel maintain, the existing corn-laws. there was no other course Mr. G. HUDSON said he wished in the strongest ; the • open to him but to accede to the reque s t of th e majority of his the rules of the House would allow him to use to con tradic t ; a ds •constituents.—( Hear, hear.) On the grounds, theref or e, as ertion o f th e N o bl e L ord, that in the o b servat i on he O eV which he had stated, he would expose the present motion. the other evening he meant to t rea t lightly with the dis tr e e ,, be They lived in the atmosphere of freedom. Peers had a per. Ireland.—( Hear, hear.) Having 'explained thus re e b t feet right in a public meeting to express their opinions on the wished to state that what he did say wa s , that he thou 4 t conduct which Government might think proper to pursue, was the duty of Government immediately to provide fore hie and if their tenantry looked up to them as proper guides, distress of Ireland, and that he should be ready to P tb ,l they had a perfect right to do so—there could be nothing support to any measure that might be brought forward ioe wrong in that. —( Hear, hear. ) He would therefore dsprecate purpose.—( Cheers. ) the'. that e the institution of any imposition on the free conduct of any Lord DUNCAN said be was delighted to hear e lle man, whether he belonged to aristocracy or not.--(Cheers.) Hon. Gentleman was ready to support any measer e t be ar If they could bring home to the noble personages whose names might be brought forward by her Majesty's Governme n e i i , tits had that night been mentioned, the charge of any improper ficial to Ireland. But—(Loud cries of "Order, order, influence in the election of a Member of that House, he would midst of which the Noble Lord resumed his seat). that this. be quite prepared to enter into the case ; but if it was a vain Ale. THOMPSON said he was ready to coefese tfe e! ,rse • fishing inquiry, because of the belief of Hon. Gentlemen, which debate had been sufficiently lengthened by Hon. itt,'"; t he in his (Sir R. Peel's) opinion it was, and which was without - but he hoped that the House would permit him to st a i t e s se any proper foundation, then he for one, as he had before said, grounds on which he would vote upon this question. ft ,t o tie' regardless of those questions which the Hon. Gentleman had hear.) He claimed that indulgence particularly fee WI ' raised, should pursue, precisely the same course now - as he circumstance of his having held a seat in that. Ho he h a d ea': tiad previously pursued. He believed that the course desired than 26 years- , —(Hear, hear)—daring which p e riod ne t. a be ev t e b e adopted by the House would be a most objectionable a i d been an indifferent observer of th ese c h anges w hich a „eatr' dangerous one, and he should therefore give it his most deter- made from time to time in reference to the cause of toe 'e time mined opposition.—( Loud cheers.) He tion of duties upon foreign produce.—( Hear, hear.) i n tro '; • Mr. HUME said the House would place itself in a most ex- his support to the extensive measure which had be:2 i. s ty's sraordinary position, by the standing order which it had passed duced by the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of her e ta (e s ose . , with respect to the interference of Peers at elections, and the Government, in the year 1842, for the reduction .e l d id refusal to the present motion. The Right Hon. Baronet had duties. To a portion of that measure he certain ly said that it was perfectly notorious that Peer s h a d i n t er f ere d i n o bj ec t, b u t as a w h o l e h e gave it his au ' . I th elections. Then why did they ewinta n the standing orders? The reason why he objected to a portion e f o s I/ The Right Hon. Baronet lied said that ho would have been measure was because he believed that, whilst there ote', ready to vote in support of the motion, had the Hon.. Member large sacrifice made, there was no corresponding a d : netts' (Mr. Collett) introduced proofs of Pee, s' interference. He —( Hear.) But since that period another very r lr se kli ( Mr. Hume) would therefore request his Hon. Friend (Mr. change had taken place—he meant in reference to toe. soe s le. Collett) to postpone his motion until he was prepared with system in England. That House had limited the ' ro - aterr those proofs. When he was prepared with those proofs, he the Bank of England as well as the circulation of, roost would give the motion his most cordial support. The public notes.—( Hear, hear.) It was true that hitherto ne, I n t t"' would feel that there did exist, at the present moment, a num. nience had been felt., but it must be borne in min",t4, etc!: ber of small constituencies , which were subject to certain hie times had been peculiarly favourable.—( Hear.) If ',lth y fluences—( Hear, hear)—which were a direct violation of the sures now proposed should be adopted, and if their we ie jal principles winch it was expected the Reform Bill would have did not exceed their exports, he believed that grea `bat Pt removed.—( Hear, hear.) One of the first objects proposed to would result- to the country—in fact, he believed L os 0. he effected by the Reform Bill was the removal of all impro- greater injury could befal it. And was there no e s t e est e / per interference in the election of Members of the House of that being the case ? The Right Hen. Baronet " - x eestr l ; Commons. That Bill had failed in that respect; he would didly and fairly stated that he could not hold out any e e este t ! ' challenge any honourable man to deny that Peers yet exercised tem tosehe countrytthat the foreign importers would is": to l b ti a most extraordinary influence in the election of Members of adopt a more liberal commercial system with respect . 1 . 5 0, that H'tuse. There were many instances in which Members ceuntry.— (Hear, hear.) Those reasons amongst oth i e eh ma . were nominated ant! returned to that House, under a system induced him not to vote for any further measures te a ) 0: 1 , • similar to that which prevailed at the time when borough- as their object the freedom of trade. —( Hear, b,erti; b at mongering was in vogue.—( Hear, hear.) . It was true the voted with the Rieht Hon. Baronet in the year s to ' r te system might not be carried to as great an extent as under the the House would remember that the years anterior o f t he rid system, but, nevertheless, it prevailed to a certain extent. were marked by great distress. Such was the stal ee too soll Money might not be able to purchase a seat in that House as country in 1842. There bad been immense sums a s,,:i formerly, when a certain sum might insure election, but still spent in the construction of railways. The Right Holt ar t s it prevailed to a certain extent ; and it was only by bringing claimed the support of the Meuse in consequence of worst r e the subject under their attention that they could induce the failure of the potato crop, and the bad quality of those 0 .0( 0 Government te take the steps to bring about the reform. He mained. There could be no question that the ponl in a iii O tt - should conclude a s he had commenced, by recommending his Ireland had failed to a great extent, but b e was etlt, pOe et 1 Hon Friend not to press his motion, and to obtain additional that every relief would b e a ff or d e d th a t i t was. in t—eofts . particulars, and bring the subject before the House on another of the House to g i ve . C ou ld t h ere b e any strongerlie °° , to t 't f occasion. th an t h at even i n t h e short ' time that House had sat BO sni es Mr. SHARMAN CRAWFORD said he had repeatedly amount of half a million had been passed to give eutP la ' p rie, . called the attention of the House to the absolute necessity of to the people:? Wheat and flour were now falling 'u r e 1 the Executive taking steps to remodel the laws relating to tee and he, therefore, did not think the M e3s -; bit ! election of Members of Parliament, but he did not think that the Government was required. But, suppose. th e : 0 0,1, any case had ever occurred in that House which showed this been good grounds of alarm, why the On le ,, P e i necessity so strongly. Here were charges brought by an Hon. ought to have taken the responsibility on thernsele e l a ce !,1 • Gentleman against certain Members of that House, which were Right Hon. Baronet had alluded to what had take" % t oil e t ': . of such a nature as to demand inquiry by a Committee. He the last century about the opening of the ports, but he t , it i ' e ", (Mr. Sharman Crawford) naturally thought that when such to mention the ease of 1826. At that time the P lif ,. arti c le charges were made that those implicated an them would have opened for the importation of oats, barley, and oth e bet o ..s , , got up and disavowed them, b u t not one so implicated had got of consumption, and no difficulty was found in the to e r o , up to refute them. What wa s the House and country to .kink ment of that day getting an Act of' indemnity, alth e ;oat' s , -, of this silence on the p ar t of Hon. Gentlemen? The impres- tection was much higher than at present ; but the ire' se shin on his mind, and on th e - m i n d of the country , would be. differed between 1826 and the present time---i ito tiso i • that The charges were t rue , b ecau se if they had been untrue then no Anti-fern-law League, that unee n ' s al b ed ; those interested in them %ori el, h av e felt it incumbent to deny body which was seeking to do away with the agricult ar te rlis r , them if it had been in their power to do so. The. Right M on , but which, he believed, did not represent popula r i tne b gs Baronet (Sir R. Peel) had talked about the legitimate right of It was said that now there was a perfect understa r ,,,,,. el s Peers to make whatever statements they liked and t o act as tween the manufacturers and the labouring e's-perstit`e they thought proper. He for one had no right to abolish the would on that point remind the House of the greet 0 . 20 S et right they possessed. One distinguished Nobleman had said in tone and manner evinced by the League since It s ago l ;,. that "he had a right to do what he liked with his own;" and established. He recollected that three or four ye a r er q t o r he (Mr. Sharman Crawford) was of the same opinion; great argument used by Anti-Corn-law manultel n g, ifn„f but what he objected to was, that this right that it wasquite impossible to compete with Switeerlacee °nano() fad been held up in terror to those who de- paid the present rate of wages. 'They then made $ s oite l e o perided for their subsistence on those who held the great differeece between the wages paid in Lan c ee , 0 00 . the rod over them, in order that they might act according to Switzerland, and maintained that unless '': t e t niorl t o their will. In short, he wished a legitimate right to be main- reduced they would be conspelled to remove their cap i eist it t eer tained, and what was illegitimate abolished. However the state • chinery to foreign countries. He, therefore, contende d ewe r e i , metes which had been made by the Hon. Member, would sink a delusion to the people to maintain wages at the pr e be lie to deep into the public mind, and induce them to seek reform, if a reduction took place in the price of food. 7 co untri g o, That House did not represent the people, but be trusted the that there never was a period iu the history of th i ' ae prc' io t day was not far distant when it would fairly represent them, which the master manufacturers had made such 'l to Me rid a and when such disgraceful practices as those enumerated were and in which the labourers were better paid. w' t elr. ' lO , - unknown. few years wages bad increased full 30 per cent. ~ ve v a Mr. COLLETT said he should adopt the suggestions of his Pratt had lately pin t üblished an account of the sS i `' ing ee o , ta l l of Hon. Friend, and withdraw his motion. from which it appeared, in 1841, there were ra pi . eoo , , The motion was then withdraws accordingly. . Kingdom 811,205 depositors, representing a of n r e f PARLIAMENTARY RETURNS. 24,475,085/. Three years after, in 1844, the nuletr o pitet t o. , Mr. HUME moved for a copy of the rules and regulation s times had increased to 1,012,000, representing h a ee itor s f o g of the Calcutta Mint, and an abstract of the operations of the 31,275,6351., and the average sum for each °?l' s — jo , w i , 0 ( Mint in each year since its reform ; stating the expense under 271. 18s. This amount proved that the country.n! d e poo . t br each head, and the amount of coin, and the number of each prosperous state. In the agricultural districts . 7, itt ect b s e el , kind coined in each year ; also for a return of the number of persons charged with or committed to prison on a charge of average was 301. With such a state of thleg e t net e It ; et , each person averaged 28/. ; in the manufacturing %, " .by , O! 3 , adulterating manufactured tobacco, ' or having adulterated there be so great a change in the Right Hon. the de ar s inarefee tobacco ie their possession, in each of the years ended the sth said that to buy in the cheapest and sell in Ir% that c e ve day of January, 1844, the sth day of January, 1845,.and the was the policy to be pursued ; but he was of opin e t he 0 0 sth day of January, 1846, stating the number of persons con- tee ' ion was necessary to the agricultural i victed, the number who paid the penalties, the number who try to enable them to supply any market. ___ eiea tion e; ' compromsed, and the number confined in prison for adultera- were to be repealed, why not repeal th_e r eete Dien' crate r - thin ; stating also the number of persons in prison on the Ist Why should not the farmers be allowed to b . hg etteape st_ a o f day of January, 1844, on the Ist day of January, 1845, and marketinthose ships which would bring . it Is mind to vote i n ill' ith er nteirtesttbs e e corec l: o ? on the Ist day of January, 184 e, for the offence of adult era - He, therefore, could not bring his tn" ) stateseasp ite...,..,_, tion of tobacco. this question. He would like to know wha t , free .r,_ of -- ARGENTINE CONFEDERATION. Europe or America, had ever advocated in w hat c°?!!„, sce° Lord JOHN RUSSELL rose to put a question to the Hon. ( Hear, hear.) He would like to know e _ or) .te „ ear , Baronet at the head of her Majesty's Government. He wished Europe or America free trade ex iste d.—( a r ts o,...--( so . to know if the Government was prepared to lay on the table of ready to admit that he signed the p et ition the House any satisfactory information as to the state of affairs hear, and laughter.) But still he Mr. dblsitkeer aid not 7 0 . If; for the Argentine Confederation ? wer to his question. Certainly M • ctmeeteens 0 Sir ROBERT PEEL stated that he was not prepared at the and he was as clever a statesman and ta le n ted r as hden extr a , co present time, with any information on the subject. There was had ever heard of. He would now ea Boston thatls ' e rica 14 , A r r odl 3° d e. .. also great difficulty in receiving communications from that speech delivered by Mr. Websterhaet Houseßos country, in ecnsequence of its present situation—so great fore he did so, let him remind . t_ was the di ffi culty indeed, that up to the present time been going on increasing its tariff for t saenvdernalo l e e ue ar a try i rs, ad be tt a a r the Government had not received any official information of 40, and 50, and even 100 per cen s ., er"4llo"re4tl t he , the action in the Rio de la Pla . a. They were, therefore, quite such rapid strides to prosperity as uncertain as to the position of affairs. In conclusion, he begged j [The Honoursble Member t h en wbieb eo ntaiamt o t egaeresej to state he was not prepared to give any information on the sub- I extra, t from the speech, t reigned rot l ee tion ils, proceeded] , k ,, arg„, u , merit to show that prosperi y ject. the dl i ltbot readi a__ 000, Lord PALMERSTON begged leave to ask the Right Hon. and that this result was attributable to the P Baronet opposite whether any convention had been entered The Hon. Gentleman having c oncluded the Id not trou bl e T he e reclie • mi'e; into between France and England resecting the La Plata? observed that he would subject. s cesin a ' on 7 Sir ROBERT PEEL said that he could not give any infor- remarks on that part of the on a r ecent sn' Thorne' e e • at the head of the Government, . (itlr. Ai d ' e etli re' e a motion on the subject. ADJOURNED DEBATE—CORN-LAWS. Hon. Gentlemen who sat about birn to retrace in tended thee e ta oil, e sing ' Lord DUNCAN rose, and said he had been always a sup- whether they were prepare dr whether limy . i n,, a a eith er porter of the present Government, and of free trade principles to our commercial policy, ? A o s far as his own oPin, L ee sed r __„a. in that House ; and if he had not before made any remarks on I still or to go forwards he certainly was o_°_,‘ to ,;) fo t heht ht the subject of the corn-laws, it was not because he had heard individual were concerned , was incline" ett en nth el, He House with hn.Yijor _ . any arguments which deterred him. The question was, to go hack or to remain still. net able to go alot?g; Hig h , poi, triumphant in the Cabinet, and it was also triumphant out of . but at the same time he w as th t he had chosen. in tile l and 1 110 6 that House. He ( Lord Duncan) had heard much since those Hon. Baronet in the pa , retin a of . . . to 1 VI debates commenced of party prejudices, somethin of personal Baronet had stated that_ a t . n :i e nated iti owl attacks, and certainly new fangled doctrines with regard to ountry in )8 15 was vs " ' ~~