The Sun. — London, England, 1837-11-07 00:00:00

SPIRIT OF THE PUBLIC JOURNALS. We refer cur readers to an account of the Flititshire Reform meeting at Holywell, on Saturday last, for an elucidation of some points of importance at this time, when so much interest is attached to the working of the Reform Bill. The Hoo. E. M. L. Mostyn, the unsuccessful Reform candidate at the last election, stated the result of an analysis of the voters, by which it appeared that if tenants-at-will had not had the power to vote, he would have had a majority of 84. "At the election," said the Hon. Gentleman, " ob tained 901 votes, Sir Stephen Glynne 935, giving him a majority of 84. Of the 901 there were 576 freeholders, 95 leaseholders, and 230 fifty pound tenants-at-will. 01 Sir Stephen Glynne's 935 there were 549 freeholders, 40 leaseholders, and 346 tenants-at-will. Of the freeholders I had a majority of 27, of the leaseholders 55, mak.ing a total of 82 ; but Sir Stephen Glynne had a majority of 116 tenants-at-will, which left me in a minority on the gross poll of 34. By this I wish to show you that I was defeated by a combination of landlords against me , and b y their prac tices of intimidation and coercion, whilst I can lay my hand on my heart, and say w ith sincerity, that I violated no man's conscience—(Applause)—and I can sifely contrast my conduct with that of the despot who, in the evening of his days, sets friend against friend, and parish against pa rish."—(Hear, bear.) This may fairly be taken as a sample of county elections in general. The Squirearchy might as well have had the direct power of voting, for they return the representatives. The leaseholders and freeholders voted for Mr. Mostyn ; but the tenants-at-will, the thralls of the Squire, for the Tory. The analysis of the parsons is not less curious. " When I consider," says Mr. Mostyn, " their unscrupulous and indelicate conduct, and, after promising neutrality, when I find some of those who promised neutrality my most active op ponents, I cannot help again looking at my analysis, where I find that sixty were registered, twelve of whom did not exercise their franchise ; but of the remaining forty-eight that voted, thirty-nine voted against, and but nine for me." If this proportion be taken as that of the Church in general, we must consider the rate of Tories to Reformers as six to one. Lord Dinorben, in endeavouring to answer the question, why Mr. Mostyn did not continue to represent Font shire, observed " There may be others amongst you, gentlemen, that can account for this better than I can, and who are better ac quainted with that prodigality of purse and promise, and of the intimidation of agents, which have been used to stifle the public voice.. —(Hear.) I believe they have been very actively employed on a late occasion throughout tthe kingdom, and I have been told that they were not inactive in our own county.—(Bear.) I have heard of bankers' ac counts being withdrawn.—(Laughter.) I have heard of honest tradesmen being threatened with loss of custom— (Hear)—and of farmers with the loss of their farms—the object of their industry and the support of their families.— (Applause.) Nay, still further, I have heard of party zeal chilling the impulses of eharity."—(Great applause.) Are we to have a repetition of these doings every election ? We wish Lord Ebrington would ap ply himself seriously to answering this question. What hopes are there that the middle claases will suffer themselves to be baited in this way for the sport of men of property ? The Ballot must be adopted if the Reformers wish to hold their ground. Lord Dinorben did apply himself to the question like a man of sound common sense. " The weak," he said, " must be protected against the oppressions of the powerful ; and I am compelled to join the ranks of those who seek for that protec tion in the Ballot. I would couple that with the household franchise. Of household franchise I have always been a warm friend ; but I confess that I have been a late, and perhaps reluctant, convert to the Ballot. But though late and reluctant, I assure you that I shall not be the less zealous advocate. But you will remember that the subject is one of paramount importance ; that it is—is our own representive system to recede to a state worse than that in which it was before the passing of the Reform Bill, or are we to realise the benefits intended for us by that Bill ?" The degree of hold which the Ballot has taken of the minds of the electors may be inferred from the effect produced by Lord Dinorben's declara tion :—" On the venerable nobleman," says the reporter, " making this declaration the whole company simultaneously rose and gave three cheers, which were succeeded by clapping of hands and long continued plaudits." This feeling cannot be baffled by evasions. We bold it to be the part of a wise statesman to yield in time, with a good grace, what cannot be ultimately refused. We are far from advocating the adoption by Ministers of changes for which the people are not prepared ; but, on the other hand, it is equally unwise to resist, without any intelligible reason, changes on which the people are seriously bent. We foresee, and account no great degree of penetration necessary to the discovery, that a Ballot will either cement or dissolve the Reform party, It is a question which the people will not suffer to be treated with indifference.—Morn ing Chronicle. Had Dean Swift been now referring to the Conser vative Festival which took place at Hull on the Ist inst to celebrate the return of Sir Walter James and Mr. Wilberforce, the great master of irony might have been tempted to place his remarks under the simple bead of "No reaction ! " It might not indeed be con cluded that there was an anti-Radical re-action in Hull, merely because 500 respectable gentlemen sat down there to dinner for the assertion of constitutional principles, for there has, we will undertake to say, never been a moment at which the great bulk of men of education and character, from north to south of England would not have eagerly assembled for the same purpose, had their presence or absence from such a scene been made a test for solving the inquiry whe ther they were or were not Radicals. No, the ques tion of " reaction " or " no reaction " was to be other wise decided. Why did these gentlemen now assemble, and what did they desire to celebrate ? They met to ho nour that exertion of constitutional spirit through which two Conservative Members were returned to Parliament for their borough. But there was something more be hind. To make way for two Conservative members there were two Radicals to be turned out, two dogged Ra dicals of the second table to be sure— one of them a personage of scribbling notoriety—the other a mute in Parliament, we believe, or nearly so, but neither of them above the rank and file of faction—men who, as inhabitants of a trading town, might have lived long in unstigmatised obscurity, but who as Members of Parliament raised that which in itself was but a defect —namely, their want of personal importance—into a visible and prominent blemish. The election of such men to Parliament is always a sign of unsound and sickly tines. Their dismissal from Parliament in favour of more wholesome organs of the national voice bespeaks, on the other hand, a return to politi cal sanity. It was, then, the rejection of a pair of " catry-out" democrats that the festival at Mill was designed to exult in ; as well as in the substitution of two members chosen from among the educated and highly connected gentlemen of England—men whose zeal for the support of our institutions in Church and State has been pro nounced emphatically and manfully, and who came before the constituency with banner flying, and crest and motto conspicuous , above them. 'Here, then, there could be no mistake ; the change was one from broad and coarse Radicali s m to Conservatism downright and undisguised. But there still was something further. Hull is in the East Riding of the county of York, and it was st a t e d b y more than one among the able sneakers at the meeti ng , t h at t h e day mightwith equal pro priety have been devoted to commemorate the re-action throughout the whole East Riding, as in the single Borough. What was he result of the elections for the aforesaid Ridin g i n 1835 , an d w h at i s it now ? To Sir R. Peel's Parliamen t there were returned— Radical. Conservative. For Beverley Hull 2 Scarborough East Riding To the present Parliament — Radicals. Conservatives. _.,_Fc. 4 .1,1; . ,,YteY 0 0 2 _.... 11 7 3 l. ' - • i S.#.l .. . . . 2 4L. i kat; _kg 11.7 gh 0 _ 1 7 Thus only two Irt ars and a half ago the Radical re turns were' to-We Conservative in she proportion of 5 to 3 throuofont the East Riding of Yorkshire. The 1~: `~.: / ,'~i►~ . Radical returns to the Conservative are at this mome►►t 1 to 7 ! and No reaction !'' We have seen the comparative strength of the parties ; let us look for one moment to the spirit which has animated one of them. From spite—from pure spite, as it would seem —for the cruel beating they experienced at Hull this last election, the Radicals have suborned a worthy citizen of theirs not to raise objections against Con servative voters, for, if grounds of fair objection existed, it was quite right and just that they should be brought forward and enforced—but to " object" without having an " objection." Then, what was the • practice of these excellent and honourable patriots ? The whole number of Conservative voters was 1,530, comprehending almost the entire property, intelligence, and character of the borough. The Radical agent o:►jected to no fewer than 1,510 of these votes r " Never," said Sir Walter James, in his spirited, judicious, and pointed speech, " never was defeat more sorely felt, or mote vindictively resented." The Hon. Baronet then, after offering_the above- mentioned fact as to the number of-Conservative voters, and of those, with so much stupid rancour ob jected to by the factious democrats, added—" But what was the result of this malicious and discreditable proceeding, this abuse of the privileges established by the Reform Act ? Why, that the Radicals, who ob jected to 1,510 votes, did not sustain so many objec tions as the Conservatives, whose total number taken against Radical votes was hut 114 :" Now, we hare heard a good deal of fagot votes, but what shall be done withfagot objections to votes indisputably and noto riously valid—raised for no purpose under Heaven, save to obstruct, by profligate and shameful manoeuvres, the constitutional enjoyment of that right which " Reformers" have everlastingly cried up as the most precious and sacred of all others—viz., the elective franchise? Machinations of this kind have been tried in every part of the empire, and in three cases out of four have proceeded from your incorrupt and prudish Radicals. Here then is one of the reforms which are really wanted—here is a rooted and en venomed ulcer to be extirpated. Some decisive mea sure must be framed for securing the possessor of a good vote the exercise of his sacred trust, and for preventing or punishing the dishonest assumption of the franchise through false representations and .unlaw ful practices. Such a measure must be adopted, unless it be part of the Reform scheme to make the right of election a farce, or the defence •of it a torment. In Ireland the evil arising out of the law of registration is such, that the foulest and most flagitious villainy is the surest engine for commanding success : and he who has the largest amount of perjury, forgery, and multifarious wickedness at his disposal, with the fewest scruples about the employment of them, is in that civilized and religious region, and under the exist ing law, uncontrolled master of whatever seat in Ireland he may please to fix upon for his political property. A fagot vote, once suffered to pass in Ireland, can not, as in this country, be set aside within a twelve month : it endures for seven or eight years, except au Election Committee of the House of Commons shall, through some happy accident, pounce upon and de stroy it. Even in that case some convenient Revising Barrister from the Mulgrave manufactory will set the authority of that branch of Parliament at nought, and reinstate the delinquents in the fruits of their exposed rascality. We have no time to do more than point at tention to the speeches of Mr. 'Wilberforce and Sir Walter James at the above meeting, and to express our regret at the want of space, whic compels us for the present to omit the eloquent and admirable ad chess of Mr. Hogg, a gentleman whose talents we hope and trust will not be less effective in their in fluence on the House of Commons than in the im pression produced by them on those enlightened Con servatives who formed his audience in the East Riding. —Times. Individual cases of oppression for conscientious voting at the late elections are of daily occurrence. The Caledonian Mercury of Saturday contains a de tailed statement of the personal consequences which have resulted to Mr. Johnson, a gentleman in the county of Ayr, because he ventured to vote, accord. ing to the dictates of his conscience, for Mr. Dunlop, the Liberal candidate for the county. For this proof of Mr. Johnson's honesty of character, Sir John Cathcart, whose factor he had been for the last fifteen years, dismissed him from his service. The Caledo nian Mercury, in referring to the matter, says— " Mr. Johnson, a gentleman well known and Universally respected in the county of Ayr, and particularly in the dis trict of Carrick, has been for tqe last fifteen years factor on the estates of Carleton and Killochan, now the property of Sir John Andrew Cathcart. He has discharged his duties with the utmost fidelity, activity, and zeal, and his won the grateful and affectionate esteem of all the tenantry by his kindness and affability, while at the same time he has uni formly acted for the best interests of his employer, who never found any fault with him, but, on the contrary, al ways expressed himself satisfied with the manner in which his estates were managed. Up to the commencement of the recent contest for the representation of the county be tween Mr. Dunlop, of Dunlop, and Lord Kelburne, the best understanding continued to prevail ; in no single in stance has Sir John, up to this day, ever pretended to have any reason to complain of the conduct of Mr. Johnson, and he could make no such complaint with even the shadow of a foundation, for every man in Carrick, landlord or tenant, would join in declaring, that a more diligent, more accurate, faithful, and conscientious factor, could not possibly be found. But it was this very integrity, this high moral principle, this deep-seated regard for conscien tious conviction, which has broken up the connection be tween the factor and his empl:iy,!r ; and the qualities which rendered Mr. Johnson so estimable as a man, and so de serving of confidence and respect as a factor, have led to his dismissal from his situation." What short-sighted persons, even as regards their own private affairs, these Tories are. What but :he blind ing and infatuating influence of violent party feeling, could have closed Sir John Cathcart's eyes to the fact, that the very circumstance of his factor, Mr. Johnson, acting in this honest and conscientious way, was the surest pledge he could have that Mr. Johnson was equally honest and upright in all his transactions as his factor ? Perhaps there never was a case in which aTory landlord had less pretext for visiting with punishment any one in his service for ,his political conduct, than had Sir John Cathcart for thus punishing. his factor. Mr. Johnson displayed nothing like violent partisan ship ;he did not take any active part in opposing the Tory candidate ; he was nut a member of the Co:n mittee for promoting the election of the liberal gentle man ; neither did he ever canvass for him. Tire utmost extent of iris interference in the elect:on was time regis tering his own conscientious vote in favour of the can didate of liberal principles ; and yet for this lie has lost a situation which he held for the long period of iiftgen years, with much credit to himself, and with acknow ledged satisfaction and advantage to his employer Individually Mr. Johnson may be a loser, thoug;i we should hope that some other landed proprietor may have wisdom enough to see how great an acquisition such a person would be on his estates, and conse quently take him into his service—individually, we say, Mr. Johnson may be a loser by the harsh treatment he has received at the hands of his late master ; but the cause of Reform will be a gainer. His case affords another proof—if, indeed, other proof were wanting— of the urgent necessity that exists for the protection .of the Ballot. How long, let us ask, are honest men to be thus punished for their integrity ; for it is honest men only that will thus suffer for their principles? Had Mr. Johnson been a man of a pliable conscience, or rather a man of no conscience at all—had he, in other words, been an unprincipled person—he would have voted at once for the Tory candidate. But he is an upright and conscientious man, and therefore it is that he is now a sufferer. How long, we repeat, is such a state of things to be allowed to exist ? H ow long is the elective franchise to be made a positive curse to a large proportion of the constituency of the country ? If the protection of the ballot be not speedily afforded to the electors, men will feel it a duty they e we to themselves and their families to dis qualify themselves for voting at elections, and thus the Reform Bill will become a mere nonentity. —Morning Advertiser. In another part of our columns to-day will be found an extract from the Dublin Evening Mail, confirma tory of the statement in the Standard, as to the sup pression, in the vice-regal chapel, Dublin, of that por tion of the church service appointed by law to be read on the fifth ry . November, in ackowledgment of the na tional gratitude to Almighty Providence for the signal deliverance of the nation from the " heavy blow" and THE SUN, LONnoN, TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 7, IS-37 terrible destruction prepared for it by the authors of the Gunpowder Plot. Yesterday we doubted the accuracy of the information which represented Lords Mulrave and Morpeth as resolved to make th;s di: ect and daring attack upon the established religion of the country, in defience of the law, and in contempt of the Queen's ordinance, as head of the Church, ordaining Show, we politicians may indulo:e in the most favour able anticipations of the future. There is sarnething equally delicate and agreeable in the compliment paid by our Contemporary to the z,2alowly Protestant party in these kingdoms, by his allusion to Queen Eliza beth as the e " great prototype of our Queen Victoria." May our amiable young Sovereign ever follow the example of her illustrious predecessor, in solemnly maintaining the national Protestant faith, and proudly repelling every covert attempt or open attack upon our national glory. May she ever be as tho roughly English, in all her sentiments regarding ' public affairs, as was the great Queen Elizabeth Our Contemporary says, that provided Thursday be a fine day, " he shall almost regret that compa ratively modern refinement and invention have afforded facilities of conveyance unknown to the great proto type of our Queen." " Elizabeth," continues our Contemporary, " made her visits to her faithful citi zens on horseback. Her Great Chamberlain and the reading on the sth of November of the prayers and thanksgivings especially drawn up for that day, according to the provisions of a statute of Parliament. The royal ordinance which enjoins the use of the ser vice applicable to the anniversary of the Gunpowder Plot is solemnly republished on every new accession to the throne, and is, we believe, the first act of state the Sovereign performs. On the accession of William IV., which took place upon the 26th June, the royal ordinance enjoining the printing and publishing, with the Book of Common Prayer, and the use in our places of divine worship, of the service in question, as well as the several services appointed for the 30th of Jannaiy, the 29th of May, and the day of the King's accession, was dated the 28th of June, two days after the accession, and bore the signature of " R. Peel," then Secretary of State for the Home Department. The ordinance to the same effect issued by her most gracious Majesty Victoria, bears date June 21, the next (lay after the accession, and is signed " by her Maj esty ' s command, John Russell." This is the royal ordi nance which has been contemptuously violated by her Majesty's Government in Ireland, supposing that Go vernment adhered to its previously published resolu tion, to prevent the reading on Sunday last of the service appointed to be used upon that day. We supposing the Government adhered to its prevems resolution, because, up to the moment we write this, sufficient time has not elapsed for any Dublin cor respondent to inform us of the fact. When the ar icle of the Dublin Mail was written there was still a temps penitentite, of which the Irish Government, for aught we yet know, may have availed itself. We hope it did. If not, and Ministers do not forthwith recall Lords Mulgrave and Morpeth from the Government of Ireland, the Whig Cabinet must be taken to have com manded what, in that case, they will have approved, so that we must look upon the ordinance of the Viceroy of Ireland repealing the ordinance of the Queen of England as signed " John Russell," in like manner as the one it repeals. Thus " Lord John" will be in the situa tion of a man or a Minister in conflict with himself. In England, a Protestant Minister, signing a Protestant ordinance, to celebrate a day of Protestant thanksgiv ing for a great national deliverance—in Ireland, a Popish Minister, signing or approving a Popish ordinance prohibiting a Protestant thanksgiving for a signal act of Divine mercy, extended to the Throne, the Church, and the people of this Protestant empire I This is a double identity, which Sir Boyle Roche himself might envy. But Lord John has a " knack that way," which he has displayed on several occasions, more especially in his two-fold capacity of Whig panegyrist ai.d Whig denouncer of the rotten-borough system. In the extract which we have copied from the Dublin paper, the resignation of Dr. Elrington, one of the Lord-Lieutenant's Chaplains, in consequence of the illegal order, is also mentioned. It appears Dr. Elrington, who is a Senior Fellow of Trinity College, and Regius Professor of Divinity in the University of Dublin, was to have preached in the Castle Chapel on Sunday, and feeling himself bound, as a notes tent minister, to advert to the day and the service ap propriate to it, informed the Dean of the Chapel thereof, rightly suspecting that his intended allu sions to the great conspiracy of Garnet and his fellow Jesuits for the extinction of the Protestant faith within these realms, would not be very palatable to a govern ment of which a Manale is a spiritual patron, and an O'Connell an imperious adviser. The character and attainments of Dr. Elrington entitle him to great re spect, and his resignation proves, at least, his since rity ; but we cannot help thinking there was an excess of candour in his apprising the Irish Government be forehind of his intention to do that which he felt it his duty to do, as a minister of the Established Chinch, upon so important and solemn an occasion. The first statement of what took place in this matter led us to believe that the Irish Government, previously to any announcement of his intention by Dr. Elrington, had issued an ordinance prohibiting the reading of that part of the service the statute of James I. and the Queen's mandate ordered to be read. And even then we thought him wrong in resigning without putting the promulgators of the illegal edict to the awkward alternative of either enforcing it by compulsory pro cess or abandoning it altogether. But the great question is—Did Lord iVlulgrave and his Secretary practicing abolish the Queen's ordinance, and the Act of the Legislature upon whiCh it was founded, enjoining the solemn observance of the anniversary of the Gunpowder Plot, according to the form of prayer and thanksgiving published in the " Book of Common Prayer ?" If that question must be an swered in the affirmative, it will be the duty of Par liament to take care that Lord Mulgrave's exercise of the dispensing power over statutes of the realm and legal ordinances be not drawn into a precedent in the reign of her gracious Majesty Victoria, who owes her title to the throne to the two great acts of national deliverance by which Providence" in its mercy saved this kingdom from the dark machinations and blood thirsty designs of Romish tyranny. The exercise of the dispensing power was the chief offence which cost James 11. the Crown. It was against the exercise of that arbitrary and unconstitutional power—the foundation of his whole scheme of tyranny—that the sainted champions of England's religion and liberties —the immortal Seven Bishops—so manfully struggled until that national spirit was aroused which restored the altars of the faith and the ark of the Constitution amid the rejoicings of a bloodless victory ! One of the great pillars of the Constitution is the Bill of Rights. Upon it is engraven the canon which forbids the exer cise of the tyrant's dispensing power to all future times. Shall that canon be violated now with impu nity ?—Morning Herald. Unlike the Sunday roisterer, whose silly party viru lence we noticed yesterday, our Contemporary, the Morning Chronicle, is quite amiable on the subject of the civic festival of next Thursday. Our Contem porary hopes that political discord will be allowed to slumber on the occasion, and breathes a benevolent aspiration that " the example may operate beneficially for the future, and the rancour of faction be banished from the temperate deliberations of the councils of the nation." It would, indeed, be a delightful thing if the amenities of Guildhall should extend themselves to the deliberations of the two Houses of Parliament, and Noble Lords and Honourable Gentlement should carry on their political disputes as pleasantly as they hob nob over their wine. We fear, however, that such a result as this is rather too much to hope for from the gala of Thursday next, however glorious it may be. There is sometinog in good cheer which softens po litical asperities ; and, independently of this, it is hardly to be expected that the cordial sympathy of the Tories with Ministerial efforts, when their object is to please the Queen, will continue to exist when the ob ject is to please Mr. O'Connell. But we must do the Chronicle the justice to say, that but for a slip into its old habits towards the end of its peace-inviting ar ticle of yesterday, the spirit in which it dilates upon the approaching display is much to be commended. As it is possible that all our readers have not the ad vantage of reading the Chronicle also, we propose to give them the pleasure of knowing what that Minis terial journal has said upon the all-absorbing topic, and how it has been said. Our Contemporary makes his bow in the geutcelest manner, and hopes however,s Thurs dayis next will be a very fine day. ( h ale w ith t he gravity suitable to a leading journal, the language used is more elevated' than that of ordinary discourse. The Chronicle " earnestly trusts that the weather will be propitious." So do we, . with all our hearts, and thus, for once, upon a sub ject of very deep interest, we quite agree with our political adversary. We do hope that Thursday will be a very nice sunshiny day —nay throughoutexpec t it, for, o r all , as its t p h o u l u s g e l s t , the responsiveatm osp atmosphere e more, we the itself earnest beat wishes of the Loyal British people in general, and the Loyal Morning Chronicle in particular, we find the barometer steadily rising. Millions of co lumns of quicksilver are ascending in harmony with t h e h o p e s of her Majesty's. subjects, and so are as the national glory and prosperity of Euglaud dependent upon the success of the Lord Mayor's Lord Steward led her gorgeously-caparisoned palfrey Her Master of the Horse held her golden stirrup," &c. &c. &c. This almost " regret" for the substitute of " modern facilities" for the feudal manners of our ancestors, is another compliment to our party from the Morning chronicle, which is the more ac ceptable, as the less expected. We had half feared, from the organs of a Whig Radical Minis try, some proposition for whisking the Queen's carriage along a temporary railroad from Pall mall to Cheapside, or the substitution of a loco motive steam-engine, for the eight cream-coloured horses. We were afraid that this plan would have been hit upon as a proper tribute to the " enlighten ment" of the coal districts, whereof we remember that the Chronicle said or sung some very extraordinary heroics in the course of last summer. We beg leave to say that we sensibly feel the kind consideration of our Contemporary in preferring, for the approaching festival, the slow grandeur of the olden time to the whiz-whiz-puff-puff-hurry-away mode of procedure which finds such favour in the sight of modern Radical ism. The following intelligence regarding the proceed ings of Thursday we give in our Contemporary's words, without comment, being unwilling by any addition of ours to mar the effect of the exceedingly simple, natural, beautiful, and not at all exaggerated illustration by which her Majesty is brought—as it were in advance—before the eyes of all readers:— " Our Queen will necessarily be in a close carriage, but, like the enchanted lady in the chrystal cabinet of the fairy tale, she will be visible on every side." Our readers must not suppose that the Mornina Chronicle condescended to put forth a leading article merely to discuss the Lord Mayor's show and the Queen's procession through the streets. They are already aware that some political allusions were in dulged in, and there are more before the article comes to an end. Indeed, our Contemporary's effusion may be characterised by reversing the terms of the old fashioned description of the month of March. It comes in like a lamb, and goes out like a lion. It marches off with an ungracious roar about Tory fac tion. Let us not, however, think of this, but rather communicate the important information contained in the following extract : " The present advisers of the Crown are desirous of doing nothing hastily, nothing rashly, but something effec tually, and there can be no folly, no fatuity, no absurdity so great as to imagine that they are more disposed to de stroy, or even to endanger the ancient institutions of the country, than those who honestly, but mistakenly, call them selves Conservatives. In the best sense of the word Minis ters are Conservatives ; they would be idiots were they otherwise, and the gOod sense of this enlightened nation revolts at the assertion that those who are now put in trust and guard over public affairs, and the security of whose families and property depends upon the secure and success ful conduct of those affairs, are engaged in a deliberate conspiracy to produce that very condition which is to over whelm all in general and undisguishing ruin." All this is very plausible, and we are glad that the morning journal of the Administration finds it politic to take this tone. But there is nothing better than plausibility in the above extract. We freely acquit the Whigs of any deliberate intention to produce that which would be attended with loss and harm to themselves. They are not the kind of men to har bour any such intention. They rely upon the Con servatives for preventing the ruin which would indeed fall upon them from the success of the policy they advocate, and while they thus rely, they snake com mon cause in public with the Revolutionists, be cause they require the aid of revolutionists to retain their places. Ministers would indeed be idiots if they were not Conservatives in their hearts. We believe they are so, and that they rejoice in the success of the Conservative party against the revolutionary schemes which they themselves from " the necessities of their position" have supported. It is very well to say that Ministers are not disposed to destroy or to injure the ancient institutions of the country. We dare say they are not so disposed, if they could keep their places without doing anything of the kind. We know, hoWever, (from his own declaration) that Mr. O'Connell is disposed utterly to uproot and destroy the Protestant Church Establishment in Ireland. We know also that the chief ally of the Ministers—the man necessary to their official existence—is this very Mr. O'Connell. Knowing these things, can we be lieve—whatever our respect may be for the statements of the Morning Chronicle—that there is no danger to the ancient institutions of the country from the policy of the present Ministers ?—ilforning Post. The large apartment over Temple-bar has long been occupied by the house of Child and Co., the bankers, as a depository for their old books. Many of those will, of course, be removed to enable their friends to see the pro session on the day of the Royal festival. The Earl of Jersey, the Countess (who is a partner in the banking-house) and their family arc expected on that occasion from Mid dleton-park. Friday last, Mr. Gillon, met the Board by appointment, when a long and deeply-interesting conver sation took place on the various important subjects which at. present agitate the public mind as bearing on the rights and liberties of Scottish Dissenters. Of these, the endow ment question necessarily occupied the most prominent place. The national grants for educational purposes—the bids for the registration of births, deaths, and marriages— the Bible monopoly—and the University Bill, were also considered. The meeting was adjourned for a few days, previous to coming to any resolutions ; but it seemed to be the general feeling that a memorial or memorials should be presented to the Government on certain of these sul;- jects ; and that it would he inexpedient to call upon the pubic at present to come forward by petitions to the Le gislature. That it would soon be accessary to make a % igorous and united stand for the,yights of Dissenters was not doubted, and that in every locality the means should be 'organised for operation, whenever the proper time arrived ; but it was considered that the movement should be deferred until the intentions of Ministers were better known. The thanks of the Board were voted by acclammation to Mr. Gillon for his readiness in meeting the Board, as well as for his past services in the cause of Dissenters, which is the cause of civil and religious liberty to all men.—Glasgow A gus. . . _ .• FORTUNATE BEGGARS.—There arc various in s'ances on record of London street beggars having amassed fortunes, varying from 1,5001. to 1,000/. In one or two very rare instances they have been still more fortunate. Some years ago a woman, who had stood with a broom in her band for about a quarter of a century, in the neighbour hood of Charing-cross, died worth 2,000/. She got the name of " the banker" among the fraternity, because she was in the habit of lending small sums to others at an enor mous rate of interest. She sometimes also lent consider able sums to tradesmen, but never unless she received an exorbitant rate of interest. It was proved by a bill found in her possmion, after her death, that she had lent one tradesman in Westminster 50/. for three months, but at the monstrous interest of 50 pr cent, per annum. But the mo3t extraordinary instance of good fortune in this way was exhibited in the case of a man, a black, who for nearly thirty years swept another crossing at Charing-cross. He actually saved in that time by his profession 8,000/., that sum being found at his death in the wretched hovel in which he vegetated, so that none of it could have been the proceeds of interest on stock. Another woman, who for many years swept a crossing in the Kent-road, left at her death 1,500/. to a clerk in the Bank of England, simply be cause he was in the habit of giving her a penny more fre quently than any other passer-by she knew.—Sketches in London. _ _ HIGH CHURCHMEN AND THE WESLEYAN ME THODISTS.—The following is an extract from the will of the Rev. James Holmes, rector of Coleborne, and perpetual curate of Compton Abdale, Gloucestershire :—" I exclude m y nephew, Hugh Hamilton, and his two sisters, they being infected with the worst species of that impious and dc testable heresy, Methodism." The will has just been proved in Doctors' Commons,—illanchester Paper• LAW INTELLIGENCE. VIC,.E.CHANCELLoR'S COURT.—Nov. 6. NICHOLSON V. HOOPER. Mr. K. BattcCi;W;ared to show cause against an order Nisi which the defendant had obtained for the disE,olving of an injunction %vhich had some time since been granted to the plaintiff, restraining the defendant from proceeding in an action at law, to recover 27,712/ , which the defendant alleged was a balance due to him from the plaintiff upon a review of their mutual accountw. _ _ . Mr. WIGRAM supported the motion to dissolve the in junction. The VICE-CHANCELLOR. said that the injunction must be coltinued. COURT OF QUEEN'S BENCH, Nor. 6. DOBSON V. DENDY AND OTHERS. Mr. TEESSIGER applied for a rule to show cause why the verdict now returned for the plaintiff, with 83/. damages, should not be set aside, and the verdict entered for the de fendants. This was an action brought by the plaintiff as the director of the Greenwich Stearn Company, and the owners of the Gipsy steam-boat, against the defendants, as the directors of the London and Margate and Ramsgate Steam-boat Company, and the owners of the Royal George to recover damages for an injury done to their vessel, the Gipsy. The case was tried before Lord Denman, and his Lordship would probably recollect that there never had been a case in which the evidence given was of so contra dictory a nature. There was scarcely any one thing on which - the witnesses on both sides agreed, except that one of the vessels was going up, and the other vessel going down the river.—Rule granted. BAIL COURT. WOODMAN V. GIST, ESQ. Mr. J. JEttvls, for the plaintiff, stated the case. action was brought against the defendant, as Sheriff of Gloucestershire, for an escape. The plaintiff sued out a writ against Samuel and James Pegler for the sum of 691. 155., and costs, 6/. 65., which writ was duly sent to the defendant, and a warrant thereon placed in the hands of one of his officers, named Gye, who arrested the two Peglers, and subsequently received from them the amount of the debt and costs. Gye shortly after this absconded to America, taking with him the money he had so re ceived. The plaintiff, not being aware of what had taken place in Gloucestershire, and receiving information that the Peglers might be found in Northamptonshire, sued out a fresh writ against them, directed to the Sheriff of that county, upon which they were again arrested. They then paid the amount into the hands of an agent of the Sheriff of Northamptonshire, stating, however, that the debt had al ready been paid by them to the Sheriff of Gloucestershire (the defendant), on hearing which the agent of the plain tiff's solicitor wrote a letter to the officer of the Sheriff of Northamptonshire, directing him to refund the money to the Peglers, and which he accordingly did. He afterwards ascertained that defendant had caused the writ to be exe cuted against the Peglers, and that his officer had received the money, upon which he brought the present action to recover it. After a long legal argument (the facts of the case being admitted on both sides) it was agreed that a verdict should be taken for the defendant on the first issues, and the second and third for the plaintiff, with damages 691. 15s. and costs, subject to the opinion of the Court on the se veral points raised. The Jury returned a verdict accordingly. COURT OF COMMON PLEAS, Nov, 6. BROWN V. HUDSON AND ANOTHER. This was an action on a bond given by the two defen dants, father and son, for the faithful service of James Hudson as the supercargo of a vessel bound on a trading voyage to the coast of Africa. It was tried before the Chief Justice, Denman, at the last Surrey Assizes, when a verdict was entered for the plaintiff for 1,2G51. 19s. 4d. Mr. Sergeant ANDREWS now moved for a rule to show cause why the verdict should not be set aside and a new trial had. COURT—Take a rule to show cause. NEWTON AND WIFE V. HARLAND AND OTHERS. This was an action of assault tried before Mr. Baron Park, at the last Assizes at York, when a verdict was found for the defendant. The plaintiff was a Barrister, re siding in the neighbourhood of Ripon, near York, and the defendant was his landlord. The action was brought for an assault upon the plaintiff's wife, who was a lady, the daughter of a Baronet and Admiral. Mr. Sergeant WII.DE now applied for a rule to show cause why the verdict should not be set aside, and a new trial had, on the ground of a misdirection of the Learned Judge. COURT —Take a rule to show cause. COURT OF EXCHEQUER, Nor. 6. MORGAN AND ANOTHER, ASSIGNEES OF BERNALL, V. BAKER. In this case, which was tried before Lord Chief Justice Tindal, at Bristol, and in which a verdict, subject to a re ference as to the amount of damage, had been found for the plaintiff, Sergeant Bompas moved for a rule to show cause why the verdict should not be set aside and a new trial granted, on the ground of misdirection of the Learned Judge, and the refusal to admit evidence. It was an action for money had and received, and its object was to try the validity of a bill of sale to the defendant. The plaintiffs sought to set aside the bill as a voluntary and fraudulent conveyance, within three months of the insolvency, under the 32d section of the General Insolvent Act, 7 Geo. IV., cap. 37.—Rule nisi granted. INSOLVENT DEBTOR'S COURT.—Nor. 6. Alfred Brodie, whose case was before the Court on two former occasions, came up yesterday to receive judgment. The insolvent was opposed on the part of several West end tradesmen, including Messrs. Storr and Mortimer, the jewellers, on the ground that he had incurred various debts, without reasonable or probable means of payment ; and with having made away with property to their injury. His debts amounted to nearly 4,0001., and, with the exception of a sum in Court, there was no tangible property for his nu merous creditors. He was entitled, in the event of his sur viving his mother, the daughter of the late Mr. John Walter, under his will to the eleventh of a sixteenth share in the Times, which interest he had assigned to his mother some years ago in consideration of the trustees paying his then debts, which exceeded 2,000/. He had married a lady with a separate income of 300/. a-year, and had a short time previously to his arrest assumed at Dover the name of the Hon Mr. Bathurst." He denied, in answer to a question put by Mr. Adolphus, that he had figured there as " Brag Bathurst," or as any other " Brag." 'rhe Learned Chief Commissioner, in delivering his opinion, took a review of the case, and concluded a lucid judgment by remanding the insolvent, from the date of his petition, for a period of twelve calendar months, for fraudulently making away with his property. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. MANSION-HOUSE. Captain Bush, the owner and the originator of the ap paratus for raising sunken vessels, applied to the Lord Mayor for advice as to the course he should pursue i❑ order to obtain assistance in the attempt to raise the Apollo steam-vessel and the Waterwilch steamer, which went down on the 2d of November, immediately over the wreck, and thereby increased the impediment to navigation. The LORD MA YOR advised the applicant to apply forth with to the Board of Admiralty for the use of lighters, with which he 'night, by the means of his cones, raise both wrecks. Captain Bush afterwards handed to the Lord Mayor a petition, which his Lordship forwarded with his strong re commendation to the Board. GUILDHALL. 'Mr. George Johnstone, fortnerly of Leghorn, was brought up by Roe, the Guildhall officer, charged with sending a threatening letter to Mr. Pine, a solicitor, in Aldergate street. Mr. Alderman COPELAND asked the prisoner what he was ?—Mr. Johnstone said he was a merchant at times ; at other times he was a gentleman amusing himself. Mr. Pine then charged him with having sent to him by the twopenny post the following threatening letter : " Sir—l am surprised at the continued delay of your in famous account. lam going to live two miles from you, on the Harrow-road, and you had better make your will,' and we cannot avoid meeting, when peace be to your soul. " GEORGE JOIINSTONE." Mr. Pine knew enough of Mr. Johnstone to feel himself in danger of bodily harm after receiving sucli a letter. Mr. Johnstone had indeed used a threat, but be had no intention to do Mr. Pine any harm. He might feel as sured of that. Mr. Alderman COPELAND said fhe defendant must find securities to keep the peace, himself in 501., and two sureties in 401. The defendant emphatically declared that this would be imprisonment for 500,000 years. He would n ever fi n d bail, but would bring actions against the complainant and the Magistrate for false imprisonment. The gentleman was remo‘ed to the Compter. Q UEEN- S QU A RE. Ann Goodyear, a girl about 17 years of age, was yester day placed at the bar, charged with having obtained 7s. under false pretences. The prisoner was remanded until Thursday, in order to produce the necessary evidence. James Bond'and Jain Robins were committed for trial, the first for robbing his master, George Brown, residing in Great Chapel-street, Westminster, of sundry sacks of po tatoes, and Robins for receiving the same, well knowing hem to have been stolen. MA R Y LEB ONE. Yesterday Edward Mills, a master butcher, residing in 'Weston -street, Somers Town, was placed at the bar, charg e " with baying st ihbcd with 3 s teel T ug man, of No 8, 11,a-terrace, d. the present, irtenseesnst7 weredeclined e c- d x n a l i i n d e n d g ,. :rinyd defence,tlie pr i silorfu i s i v ) l? oc,Ofnoir. mitted for trial. WORSHIP- STREET. Yesterday a man d essed in a smock-frock, of name of Edwa:Tl Lone, was brought up in the custody d Hanley, one of the officers of the establishment, EUirSe to be one of the men accessary to the murder of WI;n 2111 Bennett, the unfortunate pensioner who was murdered. It appeared frotil the evidence that that morning Han ky-received information of the prisoner being in Fnsbury market, and was told that there was much suspicion at who gave the tAcbcd to his manner. Hanley inquired of him his name , when he gave that of Edward Lone, and he referred ut tothe man near him for the correctness of his assertion, b man sai that he knew nothing of him. T he prisoner then stated that he s'ept the night pre ions at Walth'im stnw ' but Hatbv heard that he had been seen there since Friday. lie was then examined and searched by the officer, µ'li°found the breast part of the smock-frock-stained with bl w ood , while upon him he discovered a black stock smeared ith blood, and which was in a very dirty s tate. In answer t? a question for what purpose Co came to London, the bpri saner stated that it was for the purpose of see in g his ro ther, who worked at Messrs. Pickford's wharf, and whim he exec prisoner having been placed at the bar, and statement having been m.lde, Mr. BaouGwroN asked what he had to sly ? The Pri'' sower gave a siniil. r statement to that he communicated to Hanl. y. He was then remanded, and Hanley w as directe to proceed. to the wharf of the Messrs. Piekfo rd's,d City-road. in the THAMES OFFICE. Daniel F, lend, the master of the P, ince George, frova Hudson's Bay, was brought before Mes,rs. BaLLANTINg and GnEENwOOO, charged with committing a violent a," sault on a seaman, named James Kirkwood, the cook dale ship, at York Harbour, on the 4th of September last. Mr. GREENWOOD sentenced the defendant to pay a fine of 40s. to the Queen, and the costs. EAST INDIA SHIPPING. Arrivals, Nov, 4.-The John llugdale, Scott, from Chl °11 ! off Liverpool ; sailed from Whampoa June 2, and Ascensiuosi Sept. 17, Nov. 6.-The Maria Miller, from Ne w 8 ? ) roin Wales, in the Dawns, sailed June 18 ; Rapid, Field, t South Australia, in the Downs, sailed June 3, and Flebar Town June 24. Arrivals at South Australia.-The Africainc, April 18, °O.!: Launceston ; her Majesty's ship Victor, Crozier, Aprila; from Sydney, Swan River, and King George's Sound ; S ea , and Elizabeth, Wakeling, April 22, Hull ; Rapid, Field, April 22, from Sydney ; kir.s, May 7, from Sydney; Schah, Leese, May 1 1, • a l London ; William, Strona, May 11, from Launceston ; I `ll - 1 ,. from whaling, last w ir . George, Richards, May 13, from Sydney; Rapid, Field, "' 21, from Nepean Bay. Departures from South Australia.-The Africaine , April 23, for Nepean Bay and Launceston ; her ,M a iv es ie ld s , ship Victor, Crozier, April 25, for Sydney ; Rapt • 28, May 15, for Nepean Bay ; Royal George, Richards, NeY for Madras. Arrivals at Hobart Town (Van Diemen's Land).-- ---The . Mayflower, Headley, May 12, from London ; Dawson, Devi. son, May 18, from London and the Cape of Good H°P f e o ; John, Whyte, May 18, from Liverpool, and sailed June Sydney ; Rapid, Field, June 16, from South Australia; Liam, Mattinson, June 18, from Sydney ; Emma, Ne l6° May 19, from South Australia. Arrivals at Launceston ( Van Dien en's Land).- The gfro. ag:. net, Hughes, June -, from London ; Africane, June 5, Port Philip. The Departures from Launceston (Van Diemen's Land.) -- Salicia, Main, June 15, for London • C r usader, 31‘Dent le s ; and Ann Wise, Rennie, were loading for London, to s ail 31 June ; William Wise, loading for Sydney. Arrivals at Madeira.-The Zenobia, Owen, from Pr t n ! mouth, for the Cape and Bengal ; Triumph, Green froin don and Torbay, for the Cape and Bombay ; Caledonia, ue 21, from Liverpool, for Bombay. Arrivals at Sydney, (New South W a l es ). -The A r g, Billing, May 27, from Mauritius and Hob ar t Town ; Ru nny, rrede, Wildredge, May 28, from Canton ; Margaret, Caneeg May 30, from Cork ; James Watt, St. Taggart, May 2 9, f 4 r° E Hobart Town and Port Arthur ; T rue L ove , Coulton 29, from Mauritius; Marian Wats on , H a yl e , June 4:fr o-- Hobart Town; Richard Bell, B e ll, J une 4, f rom Launcest on; habella, Boyle, June 13, from Moreton Bay; Thomas, June 14, from Launceston. H l• Departures from Sydney (New South Wales). -The vellyn, M`Lean, June 1, for Valparaiso ; John Renvvick , •' e f; uington, June 5, for Batavia ; Sar a h, Whit es ide, Juno 5, "" Bombay ; Arab, Ternier, June 5, for Singapore ; Sydnei Packet, Bruce, June 4, Harlequin, Anderson, June 4, e n „ Nimrod, Bennett, June 7, for N ew Z ea l an d • Lucy A n "' Richards, June 11, and Jane, Barber, Jun e 12, 'for the sP ei•, fishery. Arrivals at China.-The Thames, Hornblow, Ma' 16, from Madras and Singapore ; Eleanor, Lyons, May 24, from P ° ' - ; bay, Colombo, and Singapore ; Sarah Barry Evans, May °m from London; Isabella Robertson, Hud son , May 2 4, 1 1 . , : , Calcutta; Eliza and Susan, Weber, from New York; 'cilia from Manilla; Enfield, from Muzaltan. c ett, Departures from China.—The Lady Nu gen t, Fa ,/ fo r May 23, for Sourabaya; John Hemming, Black, May 30, London ; Bencoolen, for Liverpool, to sail in a few days. 0 Arrival at Batavia.—The Sir John Beresford, July 1 2, frc Liverpool. Departures from Manilla.—Th e B r illi an t, April 291 for Liverpool ; Wave, April 30, for I oldon. On Sunday afternoon last, ab ou t fi ve o ' c lock, AS he warehouseman of the late Mr. Thomas Graham, of 131 1% . " . burn, who had been sent to Preston to convey the 111 1 - : choly intelligence of his master's sudden death, was r ,.. et n ti n -il a ing to Blackburn in a gig, accompanied by Mrs. Jacks-°'e relative relative of Mrs. Graham, the horse took fright llc ar ,je Fox and Grapes public-house, and the wheel of the vei l ' . ( 1, coming in contact with a large side -stone, it was overturnbeut Mrs. Jackson providentially escaped with little 40 1 ' 0 a Witton was so seriously injured as to occasion his death Tuesday afternoon.—Manchester Guardian. or Mr. F. Scott, of Roxb urg h, h as ca lled IW °ll ° a Parliamentary R e p resen t at i ve an d L or d Melgund for s et explanation of terms which were used at the Ilawick —but which on previous occasions had been applied not Scott without question on his part. Mr. Scott awe seem to have gained much by his motion. We think re° can, without much claim for shrewdness, divine the s eu t io of this proceeding. It is neither more nor less than sheer frenzy of disappointment.—lrelso Chronicle. of The trustees for the management of the est at e s of George Watson Taylor, Esq., have let the fine donlio Erlstoke Park and its splendid mansion to Sir Jo hn °n et Hobhouse for a term of years. The Right Hon. Par bicli has already grea tl y i mprove d t h e h ouse an d grounds, Which bad previously been much neglected. rs of A poor woma n b e t ween seventy and eight,' Y i ea b e ia age, dying sudd en ly on F r id ay l ast at Chines, and sun' buried in a very precipitate manner by her husband oovioo day last, th e c i rcumstances, coup l e d w i t h t h e man i s P' e dea th, strange conduct, caused a suspicion with regard to he r pot a, and the body was consequently exhumed, and under.Lish post inorteni examination by Mr. Stevenson and Mr. Walsh surgeons, who detected the presence of arsenic ni lb e , n efit of the stomach. The deceased was a member of a 'f en th• club, which entitled her husband to ten pounds at hertitict of An inque s t was h e ld, w h en t h e jur y r eturned ve r Wilful Murder against Mann, the husband, who has be committed to take his trial. soil by The subject of the vibrations produced in thediscussed the passage of the locomotives and colehes was d m ani at a meeting of the Institutio n of Civil Enginee rs, authe soil instances were menti one d i n w hich the vibration O f ervatioo was sensible at a di s t ance o f miles during a n ell „loos by reflection. It was a l so s t a ted that a number al P bt running down the bill in Greenwich Park produces a 510%,,, va ne tremour, which is quite sensible during an the reflection ; and that the shutting of the outer g . a_ e fie la of Observatory throws an object completely out of til' oc koef the telescope! From this it is evident that the '-' deed , t" holiday-makers have much to answer for, unless, in holiday Astronomer. Royalthe precaution of making takes to h' s as much airof at the same time, and so ensuring observations as can be attained while the out,er ateYfeehatii" mansion is subject to the fate of all his tribe .--- 31 - ryozine obser t of -----•••••••••••"...'''''''.""`"'"'"".""ri ~ 1 Of LADIES' SECOND-lIAND GO - LD Nv 2 frer ed, GOLD NECK CHAIN, GOLD SEAL and KEY , . are . r ° r ant. 4 h I 11 " N r V d a t i c o h n e g s : su S i t c i a i b i a e jn f d' o r K t l e i y e tom case comlete, for Fourteen Guineas. The Watch 1, " c h a in ° perform correctly, jewelled, and with gold dial. Th A c c.; e cont t:,with Key, Seal, and Ring, and also with Gold Nees_ t u t " an d otoe c form sets above described; and, consequently, Imes several sets, are constantly for sale. T. COX SAVORY'S, ' o o f e e t a h s e i o h n e s a t r e d e o s b c. t r a i I i n t l e o: , 1 al Lon a °. Watchmaker, Jeweller, and Silversmith, 47, C° ll 2. 9 in 9 sfit: t et: . they are _ I TUS. Warwick, LadY On the inst., at Grove ß Park, a son. • 1 Tigh'' On the 30th ult., at 'Brusse l s, the l ad y of Dant, Rossana, county Wicklow, of a son. ___—________ MARRIED. t Te ti° At Ki n gsto wn , St. Vincent, on the 19th of August lase, at do I( s endriek, E _.•_.sq., Storekeeper of her Majesty's .land, t o I s ab e ll a , the youngest daughter of the late R• Esq., of Jamaica, and Kingston, Somersetshire. l''' .b IE D • • t ea g4 ' r ra, flarrie 1 On the 9 I" TT ..i inst., in Upper Brook-street, ,NI • , 4 , ter of M. B l‘i •l"‘' Bruce Esq. and Lady Parker. o f F• • On the ' 1 inst.• ' , L. 1 ,in Baker-street, the infant son got-aerie E Jost 1 11 , sq. he la te On the 24 hi s t 7 at Reigate Elizabeth, relict o f t Collier, P. --' ( l. , aged 66. ' Ordnance, 1.d591, s o; . " ---1 0 103t u i London: Printed and Published by M URD Strand th° 112, St ran d, a t Th e Sun Offi 15'3 ce,No. 112,_7' ,li . of Middlesex.—Tuesday, Nove m b e r 7)