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IMPERI7,!L, PAR LI WENT. Or'Sh OF PEERS. I.4ARC 25. COIINStiI„ Wtrt NDA furth Y erlieord l4 in the Appeal Cause, Rochriti v. Sir Aiexander Kinloch.—To be heard ti sin to-morrow. COMMISSION. The Royal Assent was &elated by Commission the new frith Tax Rills, to the Expiring Laws ill, and to a iew Private Bills. IRISH ROMAN CATHOLICS. Lord GRENVILLE rose in his place, pursuant he notce he had given last week - , of his intention one forward with what he supposed might be, ;idered as a business of no small importance.— , teld in his hand a Petition from a numerous and t4table burly of His Majesty's Subjeds in Ire. and as, on the occasion to which he alluded, he Otitnated that he should enter into no discus. 4* the merits of the Petition, be should now y desire that the Pe;ition be read, Clerk then read the Petition ; of which the ng is an' authentic copy : RICHT HoNOURARLE AND HONOURABLE KNIGHTS, CITIzENs, BURGEssitts OV THE EU KINGDob4O, GREAT DITAIN AND IRE , IN VA.ELIAMENT ASSEMBLED, humble Petition of the Roman Catholics of reland, ;whose Nami , . are hereunto suhscrib , on bekalf of thernsekes and of others His 'ajesty's ,)sibjellt professing the Roman Ca. lie Religion, tTll—That your Petitioners are steadfast. to the Person, Family, and Govern. it Most Gracious Sovereign ; that they td with sentiments of affeCtionate gra. e benign Laws which have been enaft. rating their condition.during iris Pa. and they contemplate, with rational 'edilettion, the admirable principles of institution. itioners most humbly state, that they and publicly, taken the Oaths by to His Majesty's Roman Catholic s of political and mt:ral principles ; sntly appeal to the sufferings which endured, and the sacrifices which oiler than violate dn it consciences of a religious or bpi , itual import belief), as decisive proofs 0 1 t heir tpulous reveteliCe for the sacred th. ers beg leave to represent—that is they bind themselves, in the icing Deity, whom all classes of to be faithful and bear true Idle. Test Gracious SAieteign Lord Third, and him to defend to power against all conspiracies twit er that shall be male Crown, or Dignity ; to dO tours to disclose and make ty and his Heirs all treasons \racies which may be formed and faithfully to maintain, o the utmost of their power, Crawn in His Majesty's .rson or persons .whauso. lose Oaths, they renounce and alligiance unto any or pretending a right to to : that they rejt•Ct and ind impious, to believe ass to injUte any nelson \nder pretence of their that unchristian and o faith is to be kept article of their faith— tjett, and abjure, the ommunicated by the ay authority whatso— r murdered by their tr peraon whatso. tve that the Pope of ince t Prelate, State, to have, any tern. ter, superitJity, or I—that they firm. unjust, immoral, I or excused by or it was done for abedience to any and that it is \ith, neither are Or pitiless, that y ate hound to !fora!, although er should issue the contrary, a them to pay 'hat they.do , c6rionitted will of any -son or per. iho receives fur such to avoid far from tin, incurs Cranient ; they are the ut. agement I by the laimed, tion to for the hment ftri 'tied, n or to tit gion which they profess ; and your pet;tioner, most humbly trust, that the religious doctrines, which permit such Teats to be taken, will be pronounced by this Honourable House to be entitled to a Toles ration, not merely partial, but complete, ti vier the happy Conatitition and Governmeur of this Realm ; and that His Majesty's Roman Catholic Subjeas, holding those principles, will he considered as Sub. Teets upon whose_ fidelity the State may- repoieotiats firmest reliance. " Your Petitioners further most' humbly shew, that twenty.six years have now elapsed since-their most gracious Sovereign and the Honourable Houses of Parliament in Ireland, by their public and deli. berate Adoieclared, that, 41 from the uniform peace. able behaviour of the Roman Catholics of Ireland for along series of years, it appeared reasonable and ex pedient to relax the disabilities and incapacities under which they laboured, and that it must tend not only to the cultivation and improvement of this Kingdoms, hut to the prosperity and strength of all His Majesty's Daminions, that His Majesty's Sub_ jeds of all denominations should enjoy the blessings of a free Constitution, and s hould he bound to each other by mutual interest and mutual aff,:ttion;" a declaration founded upon unerring principles of jua. tice and sound policy, .which still remains to be carried into full effeet (although your Petitioners are impressed with a belief, that the, apprehensions which retarded its beneficial operation previous to the Union cannot exist in the Parliament of the United Kingdom). " For your Petitioners most humbly shew, that, by virtue of divers Statutes now in force, His Ma. jetty's RomateCatholic Subjeds, who form so great a proportion of the population of Ireland, and coo. tribute so largely to the reatMlCeS of the State, do yet labour under many incapacities, restraints, and orivations, Which affect them with peculiar seve. eity in almost every station of life ; that more espe. cially they are denied the. capacity of sitting or voting in either of the Honourable Houses of Par, liament ; the manifold evils consequent upon which incapacity they trust it is unnecessary to unfold and enumerate to this Honourable Howe. " They are disabled from holding or exercising (unless by a special dispensation) any corporate of. flee whatsoever in the cities or towns in which they reside ; they are ircapacitated and disqualified from holding or exercising the offices of Sheriff; and Sub. Sheriffs, and various, offices of Ow, honour, anti emcdument in the State, in 11:s Majesty's Military and Naval Service, and in the administration of the Laws, in this theieisative land. " Your Petitioners, declining to enter into the painful detail of the many incapacities and inconve. niencies avowedly infliCted by those Statutes upon His Majesty's Roman Catholic Subjuds, beg leave, however, most earnestly to solicit the attention of this Honourable House, to the humiliating and ig. nominious system of exclusion,. reproach, and suspi cion, which those Statutes generate and keep alive. " For your Petitioners must humbly shew, that in conseqeence of the hostile spirit thereby sanc. tioned, their hopes of enjoying even the privileges, which, through the benignity of their must gra. cious Sovereign, they hive been capacited to enjoy, are nearly 'altogether frustrated, insomuch that they are, in effed, shut out from almost all the honours, dignities, and offices of trust and emolument in the State, from tank and distiation in His Majesty's Army and Navy, and even- from the lowest totna tioos and franchises in the several cities and corpo. rate towns throughout His Majesty's dominions. " Anti your Petitioners severely feel, that this unqualified interdidion of those of their Commu. nion from all Municipal stations, from the Fran. chives of all Guilds and Corporations, and from the patronage and benefits annexed to those situations, i 3 an evil not terminating in itself; far they beg leave to state, that, by giving an advantage over those of their Communion to others, by whom- such situations are exclusively possessed, it establishes a species of qualified monopoly, universally operating in their di,favour, contrary to the spirit, and highly rimental to the freedom of trade. Your Petitioners likewise severely feel, that His Majesty's Roman Catholic Subjects, in conse. quence of their exclusion from the offices of She. riff; and Sub-Sheriffs, and of the hostile spirit of those Statutes, do not fully enjoy certain other in. estimable privileges of the British Constitution, which the law has most jealously maintained and se. cured to their fellow subjeds. if Your Petitioners most humbly beg, leave to solicit the atteetion of this 1-lonourable House to the distindion which has conceded the elective, anti denies the repitsentative franchise to one and the Same class of His Majesty's Subjeds ; Whiel) tleraclies from property its proportiuu of political power un der a Constitution whose vital principle is the union 4)1 th e one with the other ; which closes every avenue of legalized ambition against those who must be presumed to have great credit and 6110e:ice among the mass of the population of the Country ; which refuses to Peers of the Realm all share in the Legislative representation, either actual or virtual; anti renders the liberal profession of The law to Ro man Catholics a mere object of pecuniary traffic, despoiled of its hopes and of its honours. " Your Petitioners outlier most. humbly shew, that the exclusion of so numetous and efficient a portion of His Majesty's Subjeds as th e Roman Catholics of this Realleotrom civil honours and offices, an d from advancement in His Majesty's Army and Navy, actually impairs, in a very Material degree, the must valuable resources of the British Empite, by ittioeding His Majesty's general serviceosaing the most honourable and powerful incentives to civil and military merit, and unnecessarily it:striding the exercise of that bright prerogative of the Crown, which encourages good Subjeets to promote the pub. lie welfare, and excites them to meritorious editing, by a well regulated distribution of public honours and rewards. " Your Petitioners beg leave most humbly to submit, that those manifold incapacities,•restraints, arid privations, are absolutely repugnant to the li. beral and comprehensive principles recognized by their most gracious Sovereign and the Parliament of Ireland : that they ate impolitic restrainta upon His Majesty's Prerogative—that they etre hurtful aid vexatious to the feelings of a loyal and generous peov le—and that the total alio:kw() of theist will be found not onlycompatible with, but hioley cooducive to, the perfetiteeutity of every Establishment, re. ligious or political, now existing in this Realm. your Petitioners most explicitly declare, that they Ft-r do rot seek or wish, in the remotest de. gree, to . injete or encroach open ti the Rights, Privileges, Immunities, Possessions,' or Revenues appertaining to the Bishops and Clergy of the Pro testant Religion, as by Law established, or to the aommitted to their charge, or to any of them"---the sole Aka of; your Petitioners bring an equal participation, upon equal terms with their fellow-suljeas, of the full benefits of the British Laws and Constitution. st Your Petitioners beg leave most, humbly to observe, that although they might well and just ly insivt upon the firm and unabated loyalty of His Majesty's Roman 'Catholic Subjefts to their Most Gracious Sovereign, their profound respeft for the Legislature, and their dutiful submission to the Laws, yet they most especially rest their hum. ble claims and expeßations Of relief upon the clear and manifest conduciveness' of the measure which they solicit to the general and permanent tranquil. lity, strength, and' happiness of the British Empire. And your Petitioners, entertaining no doubt of its final accomplishment, from its evident justice and utility, do most solemnly assure this Honourable House, that their earnest solicitude -for it, at this peculiar crisis, arises principally from their anxious desire to extinguish all motives to disunion, and all means of exciting discontent. " For your Petitioners humbly state it as their decided opinion, that the Ettensies of the. British Empire, who meditate the subjugation of Ireland, have no hope of success, save in the disunion of its inhabitants ; and -therefore it is, that your. Peti. tioners are deeply anxieus, at this moment, that a Measure should he accomplished whicli. will anni hilate the principles of religious animosity, and animate all descriptions of His Majesty's SubjeCte in an enthusiastic defence of the best Constitution that has ever yet been established. 44 Your Petitioners, therefore, most humbly pre. sure to express their earnest, but respeCtful' hope, that this Honourable House will, in its wisdom and liberality, deem the several Statutes, now in force against them, no longer niooessary to be tetained ; and that His Majesty's loyal and dutiful Subjects, professing the Roman Catholic Religion, may be effeCtually relieved from the operation of thoSe Sta. lutes, and that so they may be restored to the full enjoyment of the benefits of the British Constitu. tints, and to every inducement of attachment to that Constitution, equally and in common with their fel. low subjeCt4 throughout the British Empire. 44 And your Petitioners'avill ever uray, &c. 44 Shrewsbury, Waterford, and Wexford ; Kenmore, G.otnanstown, Southwill; . Tritfilestawn, Robert Plunkett, Thomas B4tnewall, Thomas French, Bt., Edward Bellew, Bt. Francis Gould, Bt.. Thomas Ryan, James Ryan, Edward Moore, John Purcell, M. D. ['homes Egan, M. D. Am. brose O'Farrel, Richard Bolger, Randal Mac Don. nell, Christopher D. Bellew, Anthony Donelan, John Hartney, Gerard WM. Bagot,O'Donoghue, of the Gies, Hugh O'Connor, Pierce O'Brito Butler, John O'Reilly, Thomas O'Connor, John Rorke, Jatnes Nowlan, jun. Nicholas Fleming, Denis Thomas O'Brien, James Scully, Denys Scully., James Nangle, Antony O'Donel, M. D. Thomas Warren, John Duffy, Richard Sause, Bartholomew Taylor, Joseph Taylor, Charles Ryan, Fraecis Cruise, Nicholas Gannon, Valentine O'Connor, Walter Dowdall, Francis Coleman, Lewis Ward, James P. Ward, Valentine O'Connor, jun. Thomas Fitzgerald, David Mildly, James Barron, Edward Ryan, John Burke, Edward Burke, James Byrne, John Brennan, Jeremiah Ryan, Pierse•Barron, Wil. limn Barron, Charles Byrne, Dominick Rice, Am. brose Moore, Randle P. M ic- Donnell, Eneas Mac. Donnell, John Byrne, Robert Caddel, Daniel O'Con nell, Thomas Batty, John Lalur, M. F. Linde, Thomas Dillon, Christopher Taylor, Pisilip Roche, Charles Roche, Elias Cur bally, John Taaffe,Tliontai Fitzgerald, Richard Strange, Dote,. Wm. O'Reilly, George G)old, Melaelly amelan, 'William Bellew, Robert French, Maurice O'Connell, Daniel Cronin, Daniel O'Mehony, James Ryan, Gerald Aylmer, Thomas Galway, John Whyte, Julio Roche,Thotoas Redington, E. Burke, J. M. Grainger, H. Trant, R. S. Keating." Lord QUM/11LE rose again, to move that the Petition be laid on the His Lordship, at the same time, deprecated any discussion upon the mat. ter of it at present ; hut assured the House that, as he had before intimated, ample notice should be given of the day when he should think it his duty to bring forward that discussion. Lori AUCKLAND hoped that nothing he had to say should be construed into disrespect to the Petition ; but as far as his cars could catch the tenor of it, it seemed to him to contain claims which, if acceded to, would materially change the present system of the Church and State. It would also make it necessary equally to repeal the Test At, and every thing of which the Dissenters corm plained in this ,Country. Indeed were the prayer of the Petition to' be granted ;71 tota, we should see a Protestant Church without a Protestant Congre. gation—a Protestant King with a Popish Legisla ture. But ,he should not now go further into the matter of the Petition ; the wish be had to express was, that whenever it was to be die: cussed, it should undergo a fair, a dispassionate, a full and thorough investigation. He should call upon the Reverend Bench more especially to come forward an that occasion, ,and to give the matter the benefit of their full, calm, and intelligent con. sideration.. He, for one, could see nothin g in the signs of the times that announced the dme,nisitt those yo se f adopting such changes, of breaking barriers to w to t r ti e ch es d ta i b st l i t n sh g e u d is , he s el m tl o te n Cwhhoriwirceelvihere,o "as perhaps ds_ the he not State safety of both depended. lie hoped, at least, to behold such times. lefitacli, endeavour to deprecated rush chan g es, he should bring forward to the discussion of such a delicate and important subject all the temper and h&c :nation of which his mold was capable ; and he again express his anxiety t h at t h e quest i on might i t undergo niust such an ample anti t t a lo n e at tr►~ist rirtrei:t vocably decide upon the question,d set it at sit a rs as inigi‘o. give rise t o a result 11' for ever. Lord GRENVILLZ agreed with the Noble TAM, that the huginefs - wac in ;wit' (4-that import'. ance at to call for full, serious, and thorough invei tigatinn. He also agreed thxt the utmost c4ltrino s st the most diwassionate attention, s hould he brought to the discussion of it. For his part. he shuttld exert all the little force of his ability to d) justice end give effect to the matter and prayer of the Pe. shims. Lord HAWKESSURY did not intend to make any opposition to the Motion to lay the Petition on the Table of the House ; nor did he wish to see ail' such opposition to it in the first instance. It wa s the undoubted, the sacred right o f every &scrip.: tion of His Majesty's Subjeas to by their grie vances before either House of Parliament ; anith e knew of no obktlion that could be made to such Pe. titinns, except when the words and tone of he Pest tition were indecent and disresp ectful, or e Prayer was preferred which it was not comp etent for the House to grant. He did not see ;hat the pre; sent. Petition was liable to any of those ohkaionlo and therefore he could see no objedion to its being laid upon the Table. But while he so far assented to the Motion now before their Lordships, thought it but justice to the House, he th` it but justice to the Public , a nti to the rang!, more nearly concerned in it , to declare, that any Motion was made to give the effed required 10. the matter anti prayer of the Petition , he should be prepared to oppose it, for reasons which at the tiot e i he should be ready to adduce.—(A cv of " bearbrflf ' from Lord REDEADALg.) t hat ' Lord GRENfrILLE rose once more to OP' t he should bring forward the question as s oon , ss o was 'likely that a full attendance niightlie.gili: to it, and when that attendance did not Noble with the avocations which many more particularly interested in the quehliesh g) : lg bf be under the necessity of attending ro• L t no means his Wish to interpose any unnecessart lay. the The Question that the Petition be laid oforl Table was then put and agreed to. ihg The Duke of NORFOLK, after alluding to length and importance of the Petition, wAs f ° , l l ; I ? t i: t nion that it should be printed for the use ° e/r3et . House. Ho was not aware aof any'Sr incli n V ri " f ing oar usuage of the House that preve nted the P thr of .Petitions. He should, therefore, move this Petition be printed. r IVO The LORD CHANCELLOR was notsPrePart/t to say that there was any direft Order against printing Petitions.; but he was sure 1 , 1 1 to nor the pradice of the House. fie was l ' a t i t iiscf, acknowledge that the Petition was hog , a n t its object was of very high importance ; not these su ffi cient motives - to induce their no ships to come down to read the Petitionea Table ? the Iktia. The Motion was then put for pri ntin g tion, anti negatived, NAVAL .DOCUMENTS• i of , His Royal Highness the Mixt of CLaaltsro:, verted to a Motion for the produnion of eert"' • ~. cO . ments respeding the Department of the 431 t 1 0 , which he intended to have brought fi' fv f. l° Pic li morrow, . and for which their Lordship' i l l . d , v to summoned to attend ; but he wii!ied to give 1 ;;J i, a . l\l,dde Friend of his (I. ,rd DARNLEY) 4111°04 absernditiasrchl:l:;idu.n to A sgtralesettutittot.o their or 0 1 therefore should move that the Order fur t"' 3lly.g . • he i tll i Lof bring t cl or D w A ar ß ti N l i ti l s Y M lll i e ti n ot g t i fi v J e r In'o°rltiictee,; tl'ha3Pte;ht;nisritiftes.:, uiay next ; and moved that their 1.01dal li i" mooed for Oat 1 ties.---Ordered. % . . JUDGE FOX. I Lord Atic KI. 1111) brough t forward the M ° gl.° o ; t..' which he referred nn a former day,hat 1,11.,cat0 ters alledged against Mr. Juoice Fox be rele f i li os to d.e i tt i ' s of the opinion of the Twelve judge's .whether the said matters contained all t h i l ' f ri f .the high crimes and inii.inneanof,, and wile"; o oti House had adopted a right mide of proceedinorielenc whether it was Competeht la them, irl til t3l) instance, to proceed by way of Adtiress• ~i, o d fa• The Lotto Cu ANC E L LOR proposed the siftoch. rnent of tl.;e question till Monday ; and 4a . l 'ie GO d, discussion of the on business by Lotu s 0 ,, M. VILLE, 11AwKtsgultv, and ELLefolt9lfcitlic sugge;tion of the Loa D Co AN CII 1.1.0 Er ta 4 FIQUO blbinelS tilt Monday, was Adq tetli and iliC atijourned at nine o'clock. tiered to be -------------... . i cn OUSE nit t e dO.F COMM liar S A i a r p np i T t e . 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