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IMPERI. AMEN T. HOUSE OF LORDS, May 25. The LORD CHAMEILLOR took his scot on the Wool sack at Five o'clock. THE MILITIA BILL. The Marquis of BREADALBANE asked the Noble Earl at the head of' the Government whether it was his intention to proceed with the Militia Bill in this House without laying before their Lordships the opinions of the profeasiasal stadlotitfas on the subject. He con sidered it to be a sabject on which the House could not legittlite without having before it the opinions of the military and naval authorities. The Earl of DERBY said it was undoubtedly the in tention of her Majesty's Government to proceed with the Bill without taking any farther steps to inquire into the present state of the defences of the country, con sidering that they had arready sufficient information on the subject. Lord BEAUMONT presented a petition from nume rous lords ,of manors against' the Copyhold Enfran chisement Bill, and praying to be heard by counsel at the bar against it. Oa the motion of Lord.MINTO the Burghs (Scot land) Bill passed through Committee after a short dis cussion. ENFRANCHISEMBNT OF COPYHOLDS BILL. Lord CRANWORTH, in moving the second reading of this Bill, observed that it would be as useless as ab surd in him to prefect) the few observations which he was about to make by anything like a discussion as to the origin of copyhold tenure. It was a question which had puzzled antiquaries, and might well be left to their research while their Lordships applied themselves to the practical grievances to be remedied. He should, there fore, very briefly call the attention of the House to the evils of the law relating to copyholds, endeavour to point cut what from time to time had been done with the view of palliating those evils, and then direct atten tion to the Bill, which had received, he believed, th e very general sanction of the other House of Parliament. The subject of the grievances arising out of copyhold tenure was not of recent date. The attention of the Real Property Commission, which had been issued under the great seal in the latter part of the reign of George Iv., h a d been directed to it, an d i n a very elaborate report—the third which they had made, dated 183 —they had carefully enum erate d the evils 2 existing in t hi s part of our judicial sy s t em. T he ge meral outline of these evils must be familiar to all their Lordships, but it might not be without use that he should shortly recapitulate some of the most promi nent. Copyholds were but the last fragment existing of the l aw s of t•enutre that one e p reva il e d un i versa ll y throughout this country. There were tenures of chi valry under which great lords held great estates, there was the tenure of free and common soc, commonly called freehold tenure, and there was the copyhold tenure. One of the very first acts of the Parliament after the restoration of King Charles 11. was by legia latioa formally to abolish that which had practically, daring the Commonwealth, been abolished already, namely, the great tenures of chivalry, and to reduce everything into what he would call our freehold, leaving our copyhold untouched. It was a very old observation made by a very accurate writer, and repeated in his amusing " Life of Lord Chancellor Guildford," that it was somewhat unequal, when the great men abolished the tenure that pressed upon themselves, and substituted for it an excise open the liquors which they consumed, that they lett the minor temare of the poor people un touched, and open to the same abuses that existed pre viously. The consequences of this tenure were, prima rily the payments of fines, rents, reliefs, and so forth, and a number of services and dues that were payable from the tenants from time to time, calculated to inflict upon them a serious prelatical grievance. In the first place, there was that strangest of all anomalies which went by the name of " heriot," which was a custom pre vailing in vary many manors, and in some places not con fined to copyhold tenures, that on the death of a person holding land of that description the lord might seize the best chattel he possessed. In some manors the best live chattel only could be seized, and in some it must be the best chattel upon the copyhold, but in others there was no such restriction,—the lord might seize anything, and anywhere. Now, if this were stated as being tho law prevailing in Madagascar, would they believe that such a thing oouhl posaibly exist where law prevailed at all? —(Hear, hear.) He did not mean that this was practi cally a very great grievance, because human nature was such that the right was usually waved. But instances had occurred in quite modern times when that law had been enforced so as to become a very grievous practical leard3hip. He remembered that the faireoua racehorse Smelenako, worth some 2,0001. or 3,0001. had been seized upon the death of the then owner, Sir C. Banbury. A somewhat similar circiamstance, he believed, had occurred on the death of Sir G. Heathcote. About 30 years ago, when the two Lord Abinger was on the circuit, it was falsely rumoured that he had died, and the first intima tion which i t irs. Scarlett received of the melancholy event was from the agent of the lord of the manor, who who went to seize three of Lord Abinger's horses. The Pitt diamond was at one time pledged to a pawnbroker who had a small copyhold tenement in Westmoreland liable to heriot, and upon his death the owner of the copyhold manor either did seize, or intimated to the par ties that he had a right to seize, and he (Lord Oran worth) believed that he had, that diamond. Another curious illustration of the absurdity of this law was ex hibited by what happened to the late Sir R. Peel. The Right Hon. Gentleman was the copyhold tenant of a manor to which heriot attached, and he was in the great est apprehension that the celebrated " Chapeau de Paille" might be se'zed in satisfaction. To avoid this Sir R. Peel became the purchaser of the manor. Was not this sufficient to make one startle at the absurdity of the law? He confessed, however, that the greatest practical grievances did not flow from this source, but from some thing of a much more ordinary and commonplace cha racter. The ordinary copyhold tenure required that upon every death and every alienation the tenant should pay to the lord a fine. Ia some cases it was what was called " arbitrary," which practically meant either a year-and-a-half or two years' improved value. In other eases it was merely a nominal fine, 55., or 10s. ' or something of no real importance. About two-thirds of the manors in England were under a fine arbitrary. What was the consequence of that? Let their Lord ships reason upon it ri priori. If he laid out money in improving his land, should he derive the benefit of all he so laid out? Certainly not; for at his death his heir would have to pay to the lord two years' improved vs. lay. Mr. Blamire, a gentleman eminent in all agricul tural matters, who had been many years at the head of the Tithe Oommission, and who was also a Drainage Commissioner, and was therefore well competent to speak upon this subject, had been examined before the Real Property Commission, and he then stated that the Drainage Commissioners never had an application to drain copyhold lands; persona would not do it. The very nines of it was repulsive to them. Every one who wished to drain wished to drain something of which he would have the entire and complete control.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. Biamire's experience was that the profit derived from laying oat money upon drainage was from 12 to 20 per cent.; the tenant, then—the country at large, —seas thus deprived of an immense annual ed yehtage by the operation of this tenure. And the r O - 1 was not limited to the non-drainage of copy hold:l l ands merely, for these lands b e i ng so di sperse d a 1116 9 were, forming as they did in so vast a number we c r a t dcp parcels of estates of which the other portions cocupy r i e nx .l4° , l l t d, thepracticalresultthat the tenant was L. porttou, staute.h estates, rather than drain the copyhold Another great from draining at all.—(Heer, hear.) psded ey e ttic 0 improvement of feuds wee largely im ofpeation of this tenure,—building. By the general law e t o c eLleold, the copyhold tenant was not even at liberty still less, if possible, to pull down building s on bitten was as wid ei , 2 '...!nd, and the effect of this proltd canschievous as the regulation with regard to drainag e ; in the habit of not baic oPY . leold land was thus very much trimen: of all parti es co l h uilt upon, to the infinite de mizht mention that som e As in illostretion, ha reinai e c n ea near the Crystal Palace, being copyhold, had while after year produc wiotheltlohuec•elaanatd tive of only 301. per annum ei ll ee a e b di ou n t g i ly t, being freehold, was covered • remunerative rents. A. length, by arrangement be tween the landlord and the fo th r i , s , land as en _ franchised ; it was itr.lllodiateltyenXlClt' n e a r, like the co n 4 noes te. a o n years' pur chase, and was with houses at corresponding covered evils of These wore among the leadizg e,ti' - syst em there were innu mer: ple of ices; b„ t, „; and were node besides t he mystery niad i= u there tainty attending the transfe r of lands, otteatiori It.aer ea by these complicated varieties of tenure, there Would be quite sufficient reason for correcting the evil.-.. (ere zr hear.) He was not, one of those who were so as I. ima;ine that the transfer of land might b e mzrle a matterda she n.angivr of steel., but there Was he question th a t ehe transfix might be infinitely simplitled„ and ho was very anxious that Parliament should not deley to teke every practicehle step in th at direction.—(Rea;., hear.) Th e special custom s which exited in , 0 ' s''-'ettt a number'mber of cop.), etto'd estates wore 111 tnemseives a m ost ser i ous. jay:ailment to this very desirable olijece—( Hear, hear.) . Nobody knew but that at tee very minm er . t , after ininite trouble and exp , r,e, he was on the point o: cempleti e g the ptirc ba3u of est.to supposed to Le ordinary copyhold, sow° Veeln cutitem mina} start up, wholly c ter i n , t h e c ase so far as he was concernted. For example, tio' knew of one c 9 . 51 ° in valets a:gentleman, having all b ut cox: pieta' the purchase of cc estate, which he had been assured, and which cdi the - prorious evidence went to sh ow , was unC: l ' ordinary copyhold Mare, was laforzegd a tha last moment that the tenure woe imeough Euelish—that vas to say, went to to e younv:er and 11 , ): to the elder son — and, la consinuence, all the trouble cod ail rho exnaanse that had been Sf.? fist incurred were thrown away. An other vexetiun of the system was the requirem of imposed upon the tenant of keeping the beunderies distinct between his intermixed copyhold and free hold lends—a requirement very difficult to be observ, d, bus which still lett an opening for considerable veeenien. e One e v il w hi c h h a d f ormerly ex i ste d with reference to sepybold land;, the difference required to b e cbrere e 'n o in %es -amentary disposition , ' as between them and been ebeiat free holds, had ed the t L by the Wills Act. In 1838 th e subject of pyhold tenures was referred to a S e l ect Committe e of the a llouse of presided ove r h y pursaa:oe of the report of that Committee, th e nd in facilities for the Act of 1841 was passed, which provided veluntery enfranchisement copyholds, and for the atiou of heriots and other serviees. There h at i , b ?, a d ive ra v tv been only two cases in which the latter tleseripti„ r o ' f 400 iu which the formc_r, had ta k enelnutaZtnu, and O rly place, tenants being all rather &Arm's of waitin g st ; b 9 ie enfranchisement. would do in the way of e ,,,, pr Z r 6 vqh-4-t Parliament Arid, in fact, there had been ne which some portion of die time p ar r en t Retion in by individeat ...introduced been occupied with the diecuetten of r eee t tl arae r 4 ll had not for that purpose, all of them Parliament, with the exceoen of tha t br ough t of r ell&ht for- THE SIN, ward by Lord Cottenham, as Chancel lor, ceeded no further than to Committee, year two Las e on the measures were introduced into the oth , jr 11°eastwo subject, and it was the amalgamation o f thes be which t pro- t mea sures which formed the basis of the Bill now Lordship. This measure was not st 3 a°lll t P o make as could have wished it, but he was an 2 dons Bill was hie ct of the onward a step as possible. The o . i e fo , r e as their h e enfranchise, and .te enable lords to compel tenants. rich this enabling he considered that the manner with in 'et rdship upon either e t tnants to compel lords, with certain.' modifications; modifications; and win effected would not operate lord or tenant. it was scarcely pos sible from the p)zrcertainly expedient to ree sibTlehteoLoOveßrrDatCeHtbAeNSELLOt :i copyhold system, and far the rights of property. His trenching too ,earned much Friend re medy thette evils so b f r it es this could be done without. WM quite justified in the Noble and and i dvanced against heriots. $© himself was SO impressed with them that jections ho heed (the Lord Chatle copyhold estate, in order to prevent upon purchasing e, a . other favourable chattel from being, his best horse eallor) death,eteken from his representative by the had taken the estate in the name of a trustee. laughter.) As to the impediment thrown .--(Great hold system in the way of building, it a lo ft r e d r , h h i e s by tli© copy w as, no doubt, in very many cases a great evil, but there were instaccee, such as the precise case given in illustration by .his Noble and Learned Friend, where it operated advantageously for the public in preventing the aggregation of hones in otherwise overbuilt locali ties. He agreed that it W.,'3 most desirable to assist in carrying into execution aeitv me asure that would lead to enfranchisement with all du e ;peed , and wit h o ut bearin g hardly upon the ri g ht s o f tl2‘o parties interested; but, st of this tenure, he denied as to the ge nera l i nconven i enc generally sp ea ki ng , th a t th ere i 7 as that complication in copyhold titles that rendered it necessary upon that ground to pass this Bill. He fisN, erted that copyhold titles were more simple than freak.). to objection; and, as regarded sma Ile? id It tenements,itlesad n less title was preferred, and well it might it had the be; . benefit of a general register, free from veniences that would attach to a register open fOr those incon eei a!lands of other tenure, inasmuch as it was local, acce. ble t and. simple, and never could be overloaded with 3 ie gr t eat, quantity of matter. It was, moreover, the sioa: l - st r °' all tenures, and for small fees a tenant might trill- 18 'er his copyhold tenement. His Yoble Friend said th ere must be two deeds, but that was not necessary- one only was required. There were two documents, no doubt; but that was no objeotion, for the party did not pay more than he would have to pay if the pro perty were freehold. As regarded heriots and arbi trary fines, ho thought they could not too much facilitate the abolition of the one, and the reduction to a fair standard of the other; and any measure that would carry into effect more beneficially the law as it a pre sent steed would meet with his strangest support. He would rather that any burdens which attached to any property should attach in the tenant's lifetime, so that it might descend to his children free from them. But, as regarded the mode pointed cut by this Bill for enfran ,chisement, he did not hesitate to say that in many cases •the expense altogether would bo more than the value of the property enfranchised. The Bi 11, moreover, placed 'the landlord and tenant in a elite •of opposition. The lord might compel the tenant to accept enfranchisement; the tenant might compel the lord to grant it; and the ‘consequence would be, that each - would be watching for the proper moment to take advantage of the other. At the present time enfranchisement - was going on more rapidly th, in many of their Lordships would supp ose . In :bad times enfran nhisemeut almost ceased; in gooit times it went on rapidly. From a measure of this sort, however, the evils he had just mentioned were iris eparable, but they would not attach to a general enactment which would compel enfranchisement ; and cert.: inly, if he had to choose between the two, he should 'choose the measure that was altogether compulsory. eleeeain, at present the Lord had the right of property in mines under a copy hold, but he could not dig the land te , get at those mines. _Now, this Bill provided that the Lo id should retain all the mines to which he was entitled; but it did not do what euebt to be done, namely, while it transferred the lands freehold to the ccpyholder, provide for the lord being able to break the soil and to ge t at the mines. He did not, however, oppose the Bill, but he rose to state 'what difficulties occurred to him up on the subject. It ought not to pass without full coresideration—(llear, hear)—and he should propose that it should be referred to a Select Committee, as he was confident that it ought to be considered clause by clause witel great deliberation, in order that they might know on wt at they were legis lating. This he would venture to say, t hat having read this Bill, he should be wholly incapable of saying at that moment that the Bill as at present fi 'aimed could safely pass. The great object was to do ji t5tlCO to all parties. He did not make this suggestion wit h any view to this Bill not being passed this session. But, even if that were the result, if the time occupied in its being deli berately considered should prevent it, ho should think that that was in no respect to be compared with hasty legislation breaking in upon the righti; of property. Lord CAMPBELL had anticipated that before this session closed this Bill would have bee ome the law of the land; but the speech of his Noble wad Learned Friend on the woolsack was fatal to the measure. It was echoed by the Lord Privy Seal, and he was afraid it was inwardly approved of by the rest of her Majesty's Ministers. A Noble Lord had withdrawn a motion of which he had given notice that this Bill should be re ferred to a Select Committee, and ho (Lord Campbell) therefore was not only grieved, bat surprised, at the course taken by his Noble and Learned Friend, espe cially as in the other House of Parliament this Bill had had the support of the Government; and the organ of the Government had undertaken tistat the support of the Government should be given to the measure as it now stood. If the Bill would proeuce evil to copy holders, then the proper course fur his Noble and Learned Friend to have taken was to move that it be read a second time that day three months; and ho thought his Noble and Learned Friend would have done better if he had taken that ceurse than by not objecting to the second reading, but recommit!) ding that the Bill should b e re f erre d to a Select Committee. H e h a d thought that thi s Bill wou ld have been one of the mea sures of reform that were to have refleseted credit o n t h e present Governm e nt. He had most sincerely hoped i t would have been one of the topics on which they might have gone to the country to show how beneficent their Administration was by its legal influence. Their Lord ships must recollect that in each manor there was a par ticular code of laws, by which the copyholdere of such manor were governed as to their tenancies. In some the custom was that the eldest son should succeed to the father ; is others the custom was that of gavelkind, in which all the sons succeedel equally; and in some the custom of borough English prevailed, by which the youngest son succeeded, to the exclusion of the eldest. The Noble and Learned Lord on the woolsack had pointed out the very great advantage to the copy. holder from his being registered and from the registra tion being si m pl e; b ut h e (Lord Camp b e ll) t rus t e d that before another year passed the Government would esta blish another claim to the gratitude of the country for Learnedeeds. L According ord oon the o the wee I principles sa k, legal d reform, by establishing a general registration of perpetuated, for it was idle to suppose enfranehisemen3e or tll i s o t t f e n. n a t u t h r e e i tNwwoabosluelt world be and b b e e abolished before many generations many centuries merely by voluntary Learned Friend complained that the Bill His Noble and tos acdteei notenfranchise in et 13 goise shapefar enough, and that he should prefer t giving a compulsory power at etc: which de should te, bu t be he f l o o r g e ;s a dtohave copyholds. Ho (L i o t r i d t w e e a r in e p p b: i p ib such a moaeufe, hard ships and inconveniences arising therefrom, him recoil from it. With respect to the present Bill, how ever, though it might produce in a fcw instances a little hardship, is would on the other hand afford very great relief, and in his belief it would prove most beneficial both to the lord and to the tenant. The Bill had only a compulsory operation in the two cases of descent and alienation, and in consequence of that provision it was his opinion that the measure would not only offset to evil, but produce much benefit. If afterwards it should be found that there existed remnants of copyhold which it would be disadvantageous to maintain, a general sweeping measure of a compulsory nature might then be introduced to deal with them. At present he was not prepared for a measure so stringent, and he should give to the second reading of the Bill now before the House his most cordial support. The Duke of CLEVELAND confessed that his opinion had always beers that strata such measure es the present was absolutely necessary. The old feudal system connected with the copyhold tenure ought for various reasons to be got rid of; es it tended to a great number of endless disputes, hearthurcings, and bickerings. The different customs in different manors eerettituted a great evil, and, with respect to tniuerale, ie two counts' s in which he had copyhold p r operty—Durham and Stafthrd—the customs differed 'ut it erielly. Another serious evil arising out of the copy hold. te . rithie was that it prevented the making of improve powurzit Ho _ believed that withont some clmpulsory the „it be in - p05.904e to carry out a measure fbr L c , rd . G .'his.tnent of capyholds. p ci i iion e! io rtgre. s UM . ONT said he could not oppose the pro icn of a hgc ,.. lnt, Irt.eneing - the fill to a Committee up stairs, sei riehtt , h t it Wa3 in a state reqtering tee revi vern,motit we ' te r p o eretaittee, but he trusted that the Go the stact ,, raic tenti r ` l y such a terns neminate such a Committee with ay u g h seat t enable it to be passed in the pre many grievances in Tee Duke of Buc eLT , Sill ..1011 mdmitted that there were t o g weer the prese nt Bit f i Feetehold tenure, but in, look- Ttr onlywes more likely to eutfer visions the smaller cod he thought that under its pro herdehip than the lord. of defeating te i , tthhee thoughtl a r ) i r Pot:h4gat propertyßi liste n a n d g i tending not to to 1.1 for one 'Nook , cot consent to B E - c tho Bill was to refente tito way of dealing wish a siert Committee, though he ,21:112.astire. He certainly a reference merely for great alterations in brought forward by by the E eb x e e n cu s; t o i n ve ., CensinitsieneesPP;prractic'elly irate gembers of Parliament, e Government. . A. f iEp a f e w words from. Lord Potegg l, Lord CIZAN'SVORTII expressed ilia e Bartm that it should not hecome l a „ 016 the Bill to a Select thought the result would be otherwise he shorn' If tie at at the Hill going before es his e - wish was that the ;measure should becom e i pw i .ardent perfect state nossikie..—(Hear, hear,)(Hear, n the m os t The Bill we; then reed a second time. The LORD CHANCELLOR, moved that the Bill be sent to a Select Committe3,--the Committee t o b e eamtd on Thurcduy text. As his N o bl e and Learned Friend had r'xprcesed acme alarm lest the effhet of Rendin g th e raeasare to a Select Committee would t:4l to prevent its pessing dining the present sestion, he hoped ho Would give him credit for stating that ho bed no such object —(lan'', hear)--and on the parr of her i'lljesty , 3 Government ha might state that they bad no such ob ject, but that they would go into the Committee with the determination to give the measure their best attention, and to render their honest assistance in carrying it into e ff e et,—(Hear, hear.) Lord CAMPBELL was, generally speaking, favour able to Bills of this nature being sent to a Select Com mittee; but, under all the circumstances of the case, to send the present measure to a Committee would, he feared, prove a delusion. The state of the session, and various other considerations, induced him to believe that the effect would be to give the measure its quietus. The Bill was then ordered to be referred to a Select Committee. SCHOOL SITES ACTS FXTENSION BILL. Oa the motion of the Bishop of OXFORD, this Bill was read a second time pro Jormii, on the under standing that the principle should be discussed at a fu ture stage. The Property of Lunatics Bill, the Stamp Duties (I rt , land) Bill, the Apprehension of Deserters from Foreign Ships Bill, and the Turnpike Roads (Ireland) Bill, wee respectively read a second time. The piasters in Chancery Abolition Bill, the Im provement of Jurisdiction in Equity Bill, and the inuance Bill went through Committee. Property-tax Con: Their Lordships adjourned at Half-past Eight o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS, May 25. (Continued from our AfternoOn Edition of yesterday.) MA YNOOTIE COLLEGE ADJOURNED DE BATE. . On the order of the day for the resumption of the ad journed debate, Mr. Sergeant MURPHY rose for the purpose of op posing the motion of the Hon. Member for North War wickshire, but it must not be supposed that he was opposed to inquiry, for ho was of opinion that the result of the most stringent inquiry would redound to the credit of the Maynooth College.—(Hear.) The conclusion of such inquiry, he believed, would satisfy every impartial person that Maynooth College was an institution which had answered the purpose for which it was intended, and in which the soundest moral doctrines and the strictest loyalty were taught.—(Hear, hear.) Why, then, he might be asked, do you oppose the motion?— (Hear, hear.) He would tell them. The inquiry was proposed in a mean spirit of retaliation upon the Roman Catholic body, and it was not brought Nrward in good faith.—(Hear, hear.) At first the motion was absolutely against the grant to Maynooth, and so the notice of motion remained on the votes down to the end of February, when an additional notice of mo tion for an inquiry was placed upon the paper, and the orevions notice was still allowed to remain standing.— Clear, hear.) But shortly after this period her Ma jesey's present advisers came into office, and as, no doubt, the e eriginal motion was discovered to be a difficulty in their ray, the notice of motion for the absolute discon ttnuance of the grant to Maynooth was expunged from th e votes.—(Hear, hear.) So fine then, for the h est . Now for the second. What necessity was Were for it? He insisted that there was none, because some few years ago a commission was ap pointed by the Crown to examine into the doctrines in establishing not only the roundness, taught in Ma Ynooth, and that investigation ended, as all ()there wouldd i dd e but the validity aid scrupulous morality of the princi ples taught and inctilcated in the minds of the students at Maynooth.—(Hear; hear.) All the charges which had previously been mit'de against the college were thoroughly refuted, and the i ns inuation that altramon tane views were entertained by its professors was denied in the report prepared by the Commissioners.—(Hear, hear.) Where, then, would be the benefit of instituting a second inquiry? I f the mo tion was intended to put the Ho use in p ossession of more information upon the subject he could assure the 'louse that no more information could be obtained thin the re port contained, and all, therefo re, that they should do, if that was the object of t he motion, was to order the re port to be reprinted.—(Bear, hear.) But, admitting that without any motion of t he sort, for the Lord tani:uthteenr inquiryantnot wa s necessary, the inquiry could be had only possessed the power of appointing an annual visitation, but also, if he so thought fit, to re new the Commission, which could sift the subject far more efficiently than a Committee of this House.—(Hear, hear.) The visitation had taken place every year since the existence of the grant, and if any of these abuses did exist in the college which bad been charged against it, they would long ago have been brought to light.—(Hear, hear.) He complained of tho spirit and manner in which this motion was made. A Commission was sitting and examining into the abuses of the Eagliah Universities, but in the appointment of that Commission there had been no desire to prejudge ,the question, as was manifested in this instance.—(Hear.) How could the lion. Member for North Warwickshire, as a strong and conscientious Protestant, conduct an impartial inquiry into the doctrines and religious principles taught in Maynooth? But setting that objection aside, could this inquiry be proposed in good faith, when it was clear that they had almost attained the end of a moribund Parliament ?—(Hear, hear.) Appoint the Committee, and what could it do? Why, nothing, but simply meet once and adjourn, and then the dissolution would suddenly bring their labours to a close.—(Hear.) Permit him, however, to ask the question, what grounds had been urged in favour of the inquiry? None at all. Every argument which had been brought forward was not in favour of inquiry, but against the grant, because the Roman Catholic; religion was the ruling principle of the college.—(Hear, hear.) It should be remembered that the object of the Legislature in assisting the college was to promote the domestic religion of the people of Ire land, and he was prepared to prove that the college authorities had in no way departed from the original purposes of the institution.—(Hear, hear.) He con tended that Maynooth had nothing to do with the ultra montane teaching now prevalent in Ireland. Did they suppose that if Sir Robert Peel, when he proposed to increase the grant to Maynooth had found that the teaching practised at the college, was such as it was described to be, be would not have asked a commission of irquiry, and been guided by the result? Sir Robert Peel was slow in approaching reform, but when he did effect any reform, it was always of the most searching and comprehensive character;yet, with all his caution,he had never seen anything to condemn or complain of in tha system of education pursued at Maynooth. The cur riculum at Maynooth extended over eight years, and that period elapsed from the time the young man entered until he went forth to the world an ordained priest. Now the permanent grant was made in 1845, but it did not come into operation until 1846, so that six years had elapsed since the benefits of the grant had been enjoyed at Itlaynooth. Therefore, he would undertake to say that not a single Roman Catholic priest, educated at Maynooth since the grant was made, had participated in any public demonstration in Ireland. Was it a logi cal conclusion, then, to say that such was the system of education pursued at Maynooth, and such the evil effects arising from it, that an inquiry was absolutely necessary? Ho thought he was bound to make the inquiry whether, if it was proved before the Committee that the system of education had never been altered and was free from the objections that had been urged, those who supported the Hon. Member for Warwickshire would be prepared to uphold the grant? When insurrection was rife in Ireland who was it that stood between the people and bloodshed but the Roman Catholic priests? He met with a positive denial the assertion that the education at Maynooth encouraged immorality, and shook the allegiance of those under its influence. One of the moat illogical reasons for doing away with the grant, wa.s advanced by the Home Secretary, who said the College of Maynooth was once poor, but was now comparatively rich, But after improving the condition of the professors, and hbnomtiet, o that were making them al mos t affluent, were they to r e d uce t h em to u state of pov e rty a g ..in? The Ho me S ecre t ary h a d also s t ated that th e co ll ege was i n t en d e d f or d omest i c purposes, and that th e f un ds vot e d by P ar li ament , in steadbe ißight used s e d fo rHon.t employedhe Gentlemenfor education the foreign insotfi instituted priestsre priests s t t s h a e t ; most meagre inquiry he would have ascertained there was no foundation whatever for thafassert - to n which ,was so often repeated by the - great champions of Pretea. antism. When famine vi s it e d I re l an d then there was a fusion between th e R oman Catholics and Pro testants, who forgot all their religi ous diff erences in their anxiety to minister to the wants of tho people, and now the Hon. Member for Warwickshire sought to separate and destroy that happy union by a motion of this nature. It was said there was a conspiracy at Maynooth, but he treated the present movement as part of a conspiracy in high places in this country against Catholicity—as a conspiracy on the part of the University of Oxford for the purpose of retaliation against that earnest inquiry which had been evinced by Protestants to arrive at the religious truth. The Protestant feeling abroad in the country would not al low a Government, however well disposed, to do justice to Ireland. Roman Catholic Members in that House had, therefore, only one resource, and that was self-de pendence. They should attach themselves to no party, and keep aloof from all party conflicts, and then, when the fitting moment arrived, form themselves into com pact array and teach the Government and the House that the undeniable rights and privileges of the Roman Catholics were nut to he tampered with with impunity. Mr. NAPIER said that the present motion having been brought forward by an independent Member of the House, it was for the Government to consider what course they would take on the subject. Before the pro • sent Government had taken office, the proposal was in the shape of an absolute repeal of the grant. To that, of course the Government could not, consistent with a due discharge of their duty, assent, nor could he himself, whatever his individual con viction on the subject might be, give his con sent to such a course; but after the aceessicn of the Government to effice, the Hon. Mover of this motion, knowing that the Government would not consent to a repeal of the grant, had altered his motion to a renntest for a Committee of Inquiry. To that motion he considered the Government were bound to consent. Such an inquiry—to see whether the grant were carried out to the full benefit of those for whom the grant was first established—could not hut be of use. In the first place it was necessary to see fir hat were the intentions and the purpose of that legislation by which tide grant was established. After tracing at some length the progress of legislation with regard' to the Roman Catholic religion the Learned Gentleman proceeded to show that Maynooth was not established as a religious endowment, but as en educational institution, to provide an education for those who, but for the ex pense, and their not being able to b 3 under the Roman Catholic discipline, might at that time have repaired to TriniF • College, Dublin. That was the object with which ainooth was founded, mid it was not intended then as a state e s t a bli s h ment, b ut mere ly rece i v ing s n Ci e e d old. As th e y rece i ve d a state grant , h e con - . it area the duty cf Parliament to ascertain whether the grant was pp a dle to the proper purpose!. It was under these circu re stances that the inquiry which d had hero already a ll u d a nooth was not regarded as took a ai Place. Originally May- Perahns of the Lenart.seminary for priests but for Catholic religioc, and it was under that denomination that it had come under the inquiry of the Commissioners in 1824; and as it was still, ho thought, an education'sl establish ment, it was still liable to an inquiry. Now that the annual grant no longer existed that power of inquiry could no longer be exercised, and there was therefore need of a special inquiry. The power of visi tation was of no use to obtain the truth on the subject of education at May noot h , and nothing but a Committee could satisfactorily investigate these import an t matters. If the Roman Catholics of Ireland had followed the advice of their beat friends—if the Roman Catholic priesthood had refrained from mingling in politics and public affairs, the cry for the inquiry would never have been heard, and no dissatisfaction have been raised at the nature of the doctrines taught there. It was the sense of the want of success of the policy of 1845 that had been the cause of the feelings against Maynooth. No man would be more rejoiced than himself if the inquiry showed that the object of the trusts had been carried out faithfully and sin cerely ; but he contended that against the teaching of ultramontane doctrines it behoved every man, be his creed what it might, to lift up his voice, being, as they wore, doctrines which trampled upon the laws of the country, and sought to dispense with the sovereignty of the Queen. The patrons of Maynooth College how ever, were the bishops of the Roman Catholic Church in Ireland, and these bishops had openly professed their ad herence to ultramontane doctrines.—(Cries of "No, no.") Ho repeated that the Conduct of the heads of Maynooth since 1345 demanded that this inquiry should be had. Those heads had declared themseh-ta in favour of ultra montane principles, and in continuing; the grant they were under the existing system paying money to a foreign agent. The grant was originally conceded upon domestic grounds, but as the matter now stoodohere was no domestic clergy, because the Pope of Rome exercised authority over the bishops, while the bishops con trolled the clergy. In point of fact, therefore, the agents of the Pope enjoyed the administration of the Maynooth funds, and looking at the conduct of the heads of the college since the year 1845 , he could arrive at no other con c l us i on t h an that the time had arrived when en inquiry ought to take place into the affairs of the college.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") Well, then, how wa s th at i nqu i ry to take place? Some proposed that it Should be by commission, and not by Parliamentary Committee; but he did not agree with them. The inquiry ought to be a dispassionate and candid one, and he thought a Parliamentary Cora -1 mitten was a fit and proper tribunal to engage in the investigation.—(Crie s of " Hear, hear.") The posi tion of the State Church watt a very different ques tion to the present. At a future day that question might be fairly discussed, but in the meantime let them have a Committee to examine into the operation of the grant made to the opposite Church.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. GLADSTONE said the latter remark of the last speaker referred to him, but he begged to s t a t e th at h e bad no desire t o see the ' State Church of Ireland in any way disturbed. Mr. FOR.PESCUE said the speech of the Learned Attorney-General was an echo of the No-Popery cry which had been raised out of doors, and he looked upon it as the curse of the country. There appeared to be no end to it in Protestant England and Protestant Scotland, and it was daily be coming apparent that the Catholic Emancipation Act was not carried with the hearty concurrence of the people of Great Britain. He for one deplored this much, because it setieried him that the future was still pregnant with danger for Ireland.—(Hear, hear.) This Protestant country' could not long go on treating Roman Catholic Ireland in this manner, or else the Roman Catholic people of Ireland would begin to think that they would be better off without their connexion with England.— (Hear.) Compared with the revenues enjoyed by the State Church, thi s grant was r idi culously i ns i gn i f i cant, and to m a k e i t a pretext for reviving the No-Popery cry in Parliament was impolitic as well as unjust.— (Hear, !le ar n With regard to this particular motion, he contend e d that there was no necess i ty for any inquiry, an d h e should unhesitatingly g i ve hi s decided opposition as a Protestant Irishman to the proposal o f the Hon. Member for North Warwickshire. Mr. DRUMMON D could not separa t e t h e quest i on of inquiry from the persons who were to conduct it.— (Lear, hear.) 2 - show in deciding the two questions it should not be forgotten that Ireland was a Roman Catholic country, while the State Church was originally planted by the force of the bayonet.—(Hear, hear.) The Hen. Member for North Warwickshire charged Maynooth with encouraging irreligion and im morality, but he contended that a Protestant was totally incompetent to decide whether the doctrines taught at Maynooth were proper or not.— (Hear, hear.) They ought not to propose inquiries of this nature, but to rejoice that there was such a church amongst us like the Roman Catholic Church, which stood up f or t h e di v i ne instit ut i on of hie rarchy, and the governmental system or principle.— (Hear, hear.) It was not for him to decide what were the doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church, but the Roman Catholics would agree with him that the order of the Jesuits had been denounced as incompatible with the safety of society.—(Hear, hear.) The Pope suppressed the order on that accouut, and yet at this moment the order was predominant in the Roman Catholic Church. (Hear, hear.) The recent aggression of Cardinal Wiseman and his followers was dictated by the Jesuits, and it should not be forgotten that the firm conviction of this body was that they ought to have the government of the whole world in their own hands.—(Hear, hear.) In point of fact they declared themselves openly opposed to the liberty encouraged and protected under the name of Protestantism, and this it was that had irritated the people of England and Scotland against the Roman Catholic Church.—(Hear.) They were jea lous of their civil and religi ous lib ert i es, and although might be mi s di rected, yet at bottom it taught surf ius just.—(final.) L-I t t h a e l Y ) b e c r e rusade against Great Britain, and th e p eo pl e w t h ea e rs i er sincere atonag w w T e h d o J o l e i s e u g i i t e s e h e d t e com mencedthen , but L e h a d too muc h f a i t h courage of the people to suppose that make progress withi n t h ose this doctrine would v hear.) rine Popeaitheal s.honesty_ before (l l t a h r e a, i n r d S c o o v ue e r r a e e r Mr. FRESIIFIELD then moved the adjournment of the debate. Mr. ANSTEY resisted the motion, and declared that it was another manoeuvre to get rid of the debate alto gether.—(No, no.) W hy it was proposed to adjourn the debate sine die.—(No, no.) Yes but it was.—(No.) The SPEAKER said the House m ust first decide that the debate should be adjourn e d b e f ore they could fix theu tby tim the Ilea. and ar, hear.) spits ofthrown o Mr. SPOONER, in the insinuations Learned Gentleman and his fol lowers, had 130 h esi tation in s ay i ng t h at h e was qu i te ready to name the time if th e f orms of the House would•— ar, allow him to do so .--ear, hea r .) H e wou ld a dj ourn the t e.— e debate until six o'clock if those Hon. Gentleman who had motions on the paper Would give way.—(Hear.) H shad, been charged with a want of honesty in making ion and altering i t to accommodate the views of the Government; but he denied this in toto.—(Hear, hear.) H e had never altered his specific motion, nor had he ever been insincere either in proposing it, or in his desire to bring it to a divieion.—(H ear , hear.) He h o ped the House would now allow the debate to be adjourned until after the other orders of the day, and he had no objection to snake a motion to that effect. The SPEAKER repeated that the House must first decide that the debate should bead journed before it could fix the time.—(Hear, hear.) , Mr. D'EYNCOURT urg e d the House to fix the ad ' jou.l• • •Me nt for a future day, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, c nisidering the present stat e of public business, he thought, it the discussion was to be adjourned, that it would be expedient to continue it to day, but on the whole he considered it would be better to divide at once.—(Cheers.) Mr. REYNOLDS said h e had no objection to adjourn the debate, said he the motio n it se lf, but they (th e I r ish Members) te e not prepared to divide, as there were several of them who wished to address the House on the question, er eee hoped, if the House ulti mately decided that an inquiry should be instituted , it would spare Roman Cetholics the infliction of having the Hon. Member for North Warwickshire chairman of the Committee. Mr. T. DUNCO!qSE said, as a preliminary question, they ongut to decide whether the House should sit to-morrow, If it did sit he saw no objection why the debate should not be adjourned until to-morroev. There was no feeling i n the country in favour of this question being renew e d in the House, and ho could not himself see that an y u __ t from these de em' could result bates. If an queryin';_, tut Maynooth were instituted it was impossible bring ° 't eonclueion during the present seseion. „ had to motion on the paper for the 41)31 , it " tee p os t - horse amal but ho had no objection too give way to enable duty, be adjourned until the debate to this evening. Lord ROBERT "el he was per fectly GR OSVENOR sal withdraw his motion adillinn tofor the abolition a of the attorneys' certificate duty, provided the Govern ment would him good position for some other give as a day this week. The gallery eves then but no division took pi ece , i t having men thatcleared, sees the debate should he adjourned tatter the other agreed orders of the day. Mr. ANSTEy moved, an a ,,„ a duleut,.that the de bate be continued at six o'clock. The SPEAXER sen • House could out tlitt t • iioll which was inconsis tent with its ord r e r l am° Mr. ANSTety said ho . would make ar.other motion, viz., that the debate LhOtild boadjourned until tomorrow, Mr. REYNOLI)S, it: rely to certain observations made by The O'Gorman Mahon concerning himself, said ho supposed that Gallent Member wanted him to take a re turn ticket to Weybridge—(Laughter)—but he assured him that he was not t o t tt, b u llied.—(Laughter.) Mr. IlEYNCOleneat said if it was the general wish of e the House, tie wo u ld w i t hd ra w his motion to ena bl e the uebato te c°we on again to-night. Mr. KEOGH thought, if the Government were sincere, they ought t o -- y fix a (1, for the debate, and ant call on Members to absndon their motions. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it was quite kr,pQsit-ible for the Government to fix any of the few days left them for debates which were not con nected with the immediate arid pressing necessities of public busireos. He had already thrown out a sugges tion, and he must leave lion. Members to settle the matter among themselves. After a is w words from Mr. ECULLY and Sir A. Caeirneea, The House fliv idzd, when there appeared — For adjourning the debate till to-morrow Against it •.• Mejority ..• THE DERBY DAY. Lord PALMERSTON, in pursuance of his notice, rose to move that the House at its rising do adjourn till Thursday. There was no hope of any public business being got through to-morrow, unless there was a call of ... - 220 LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING-, MA ir 26, 1852 the House, and the only other alternative was to propose the present motion. Mr. SHARMAN CRAWFORD was under the ne cessity of 3 opposing the motion ; but he was obliged to do so, as one of the orders of the day for to-morrow re lated to a question in which he himself was concerned. Mr. ANSTEY moved that the debate be adjourned, in order that the country might seo whether the House preferred the amusement of the race-course to the busi ness of the country. The House then divided, when there appeared— For the amendment 43 Against it ... ... 212 Majority ...-169 For the original motion ... 190 Against it ... 47 Majority —143 The motion was accordingly agreed to. Mr. FITZROY then moved that the House do adjourn at once until Thursday. It was evident to him that no public business could be got through to-night.—(Hear.) After a few words from' Mr. Anstey, Mr. Newdegate, and Mr. D'Eyncourt, the House divided, when there appeared— For the motion ' ••• 89 Against it 128 N e .? 4 Majority against it The House then adjourned at Six o'clock until Eight o'clock. The SPEAKER took the Chair again at Eight o'clock. Lord D. STUART gave notice that on Thursday he would put a question to the Government relative to the case of Edward Murray, a British subject, and a pri soner under sentence of death at Rome. An HON. MEMBER here moved that the House be counted, and 38 Members only being found present, the House was adjourned till Thursday next. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. MARLBOROUGH-STREET William Smith, C 156, wa; brought before Mr. Bing ham, chArged with having received money at various times from foreign prostitutes who frequent Regent street and that neighbourhood. Mr. Ballantine was for the defendant, Louisa Aubert (through an interpreter) said she gained a living by prostitution. She was accustomed to walk out at night in Regent -street and Waterloo-place. She knew the defendant as being one of the constables on that beat. The first time the constable spoke to her she gave him a shilling, She had given him a shilling three or four times after that. She was apprehended with a number of other prostitutes some time back by the de fendant and other constables. The defendant told her she need not be alarmed. She was bailed out. The prisoner made no proposal to her then, but told her not to walk so often in the part of Regent-street she had been accustomed to frequent. Atter she had been be fore the magistrate and fined, she offered the prisoner some money. The prisoner told her to put up her money, and to meet him at a public-house in the neighbourhood. Complainant went to the public house and gave the prisoner two half-crowns and some drink. Caroline Devine had never given money to the priso ner, though she had to other poiicemeu. Rachel Deschamps had give❑ the prisoner a shilling.' Another witness said she bad given money to police constables, but not more to the prisoner than to the others. Inspector Whall said the constable had been eight years in m the f natnindebaodrerat sgseodadtcieheroacutr. there was no corroboration of l the statements of the wit r. i 371 I ° ' d a nesses, that the charge had failed. Mr. BINGHAM deferred his decision until next Thurs day. IV; / 1 / l i aIN S ; a ' . . -2nlL 8 i v a c,kr n o r e , t wo Power ' Charles D r : e b n s , on W I a l ( 1 n E l d e S a fill young charged with being concerned with a number of others in a desperate attack up,m the The facts of the case police discovered polies. are these:—On Friday night the place between twogreat crowd of persons istisemb!ed at c omhatantg, ot aV St. Ermiu's-hi ll , Westminster, where a fight was taking necessary to tel The officers parted the r b eque iju s e te n d . them to go away. One did proceedi n , so, but the .l e_cam . e so violent attack that it was found with hint o into custody, and they were about the station when a desperate Was made upon them by a large mob, consisting of thieves, Prostitutes, and other loose characters with which the neighbourhood abounds. Stones, brickbats, and other missiles were hurled at the constables two of whom were wounded ou the forehead, and others se verely injured. James Meadows, 98 B, was knocked down by one fellow, and then attacked without mercy by hall-a-dozen more while upon the ground, and kicked with greet brutality. Poice-cen3tabie Shipp, 135 B, was also knocked down, kicked over the eyes, and in va rious parts of his body, and Mayer, 214, received lik e ill-treatment. Considerable confusi,n prevailed in the neighbourhood, owing to the riot sod desperate cendnct of the parties by whom the police were assailed. The wounded man who had been taken in the first instance was rP: cued and escaped, and, after lodging one of 4. rime_ -.- n h d e divisional surgeon. leaders in the station, wtholiipm) .rore.vtgehuteihrreuevtdtthnheoecl:sfs,,:tdhal'annnetscet th p , on the police, and Con stableseoEnsytiadbewlne were re t n o ws c ea o ni n t g v t e inv y e e t a most active part in the attack u nt the defence, irries and l w er a e d committed re'eived fo r had The inflict edaccused o some d o e f trial.l CLEREEN TV ELL. Mr. James Husband, sulieitor, of Goli Hawk terrace New-road, Hamm ersm i th, was placed in the felons' dock, before Mr. WxAwnixT, charged by Mr. Liugh fectly understand what I alluded to in "leaving my vengeance within your hands." I was speaking in re lation to that declaration still in course of signature by a number of Liberal supporters of Lord Albert Conyng. ham and myself, at the last election, which stops short of no length —not even that of giving votes to Mr. Johnstone and Mr. Gipps, in order to prevent the re turn of Colonel Romilly to Parliament. It is with sincere regret that I should again have been compelled to trouble you upon these painful topics, and again ever so reluctantly have thn appearance of re newing a controversy, which I could wish, in some way or another, for ever settled, that I have the ;honour to be, gentlemen, your very faithful servant, 68, Harley- s t reet, May 2 GEORGE SYDNEY SMYTHE. 5. ----- LAW INTELLIGENCE. HOUSE OF LORDS, May 25. BENNET'S DIVORCE. Their Lordships sat this afternoon, for the purpose of hearing evidence in support of the second reading of th;r, Bill. Mr. MEREWETHER, stated the circumstances of the case. The parties were married in the year 1833, and lived together until 1844, having issue two eons, now aged eighteen and fifteen. I on the month of August, Mr. Bennet tbeing absent on a shooting excur sion in the north, Mrs. Bennet suddenly disap peared, taking with her the youngest son, leaving behind her no trace of wh ere she had betaken herself to. After repeated inquiries Mr. Bennet, havin g followed her through France and Italy, discovered Mrs. Bennet residing at Valencia in Spain under the name of Fremantle. In an interview which he had with her there he endeavoured to persuade her to return to Eng land, but in vain, and after repeated efforts, all he could do was to prevail on her to surrender to him his youngest son, whom she had with her, and to execute a deed of separation. All that time Mr. John Henry Touchet, with whom Mr. Bennet suspected his wife to have eloped, was also residing at Valencia, but Mr. Bennet was unable then to obtain any evidence of an improper intercourse between the parties. From that time Mrs. Bennet continued to reside abroad, and on the 21st of August, 1851, the petitioner being at the Reigate Station, saw Mr. Touchet standing on the platform there, and having some reason to believe that his wife was expected to arrive in England from Boulogne, he set a watch on the parties. Mrs. Bennet, in fact, did shortly arrive at Reigate station, where she was received by Mr. Touchet. The two then proceeded to Horsham, and engaged apartments at the King's Head Inn, not as man and wife; and that night after all the house had retired to rest, Mr. Touchet was seen to leave his own room and go into that of Mrs. Ben net, where he remained till the next morning. Mr. Bennet brought an action against Mr. Touchet for crim. con., and recovered 5001. damages; he also obt a i ne d a divorce in the Consistorial Court; and finally made the present application to dissolve the marriage. Several witnesses were called in proof of this state ment, and at half-past four the further consideration of the Bill was adjourned until Friday. BAIL CURT, May 25. Sittings at Nisi Prius, b ore M r. Judaea WIGHTMAN.) ANDREWS V. BATLEY. Mr. Edwin James, Q C., and M r . Ud all, were counsel for the plaintiff; and Mr. Sergeant Wilkins for the de fendant. This was an action to recover damages for an assault. The plaintiff was a milliner, in Mortimer -street Caven dish-square, and the defendant was the son of a gentle man living on Maida-hill. It appeared that in September last the plaintiff went to a Bloomer ball in the costume, accompanied by a Miss Forsyth; they there met the de fendant for the first time; he paid attention to Miss For syth, and after the night of the ball the defendant con tinued those attentions, and was about to be married to the lady. The plaintiff went to the defendant's father, and urged upon him that it was not a desirable match. The next day the defendant called upon the plaintiff, and after some violent conversation the plaintiff called the defendant a liar, and then the defendant committed the assault upon her. The following was the plaintiff's evidence:— Mrs. Andrews --I am a milliner. In September last I went to the Bloomer ball at the Hanover square Rooms, accompanied by Miss Forsyth. I saw the de fendant at the ball. He got .a cab and took a seat in it. I requested him to leave the cab, which he did, and I took Miss Forsyth home. I afterwards called upon the defendant's father, as I had heard the defendant was about to be married to Miss Forsyth, to explain to the father that I did not think it an eligible match. The next day the defendant and Mrs. Disney, who are related to Miss Forsyth, called on me, and behaved very violently. They left the house. The defendant returned, and after some conver sation he sprang upon me, and struck me many blows about the head, neck, bosom, and shoulders. ile said, " D—n you, I will suffocate yeti." Both my arms were very much bruised, and remained discoloured for a fort night after. Two of my apprentices and a customer were present. Cross-examined—I have been married. My husband has been dead eight or nine years. lam 28 or 29, but I really don't know my age. It is near 30. I went in the costume of the Bloomers. There is an announcement in; my window that dressmaking is taught in six lessons, and furnished lodgings to let. I had sent to Captain Disney for money owing me for Miss Forsyth. I went to the defendant's house and asked for his mother. I recollect calling the defendant a liar. I did not tear his coat. I was perfectly calm. I might have been excited. I don't recollect saying that Mrs. Disney was a low-bred Irishwoman. The defendant told me Mrs. Disney would proceed against me for defamation. I said nothing re proaching Miss Forsyth's character. I did not summon the defendant before the magistrate, but he was sum moned. Re-examined—l had been making costumes for this ball, and had a ticket given me by the managers. Mrs. Disney requested me to take Mass Forsyth to the ball. The Disneys lived at 316, Regent -street. By the regulation of the ball all ladies were to be dressed as Bloomers. Anne Glaaspool, an apprentice of the plaintiff, give evidence as to the assault upon the plaintiff. He struck the witness on the bosom and on the mouth and loosened her teeth. Sarah Pilton, a customer of the plaintiff, also proved the assault. There was such a piece of work that she thought Mrs. Andrews was being murdered. Mr. Sergeant %%dams made a most amusing speech for the defendant; he denied the assault, but thought it not improbable that being provoked in the highest degree by the plaintiff, he had shaken her. The smallest coin would amply satisfy the case. Mr. Justice WIGEITMAN having slimmed up, the jury retired. Tho jury came in and asked the smallest sum that would carry costs. The JUDGE said that they had better give a verdict without thinking of costs. The jury gave a verdict for 51. Tho JUDGE refused to give a certificate to the plaintiff for her costs; he did not see why the case should not have been tried in the County Court. PARLIAMENTARY DIVISIONS (From the Votes and Proceedings of the House of Commons.) TUESDAY, MAY 25. DERBY DAY. Motion made and Question proposed, " That this House will, at the rising of the House this day, adjourn till Thurs day neat:"—Debate arising; Motion made, and Question put, " That the Debate be now adjourned." The House divided : MINORITY-AYES, 43. MAJORITY-NOES, 212. . Main Question put. The House divided :- 1 MAJORITY—AYES, 190. i Adderley, C. B. Farnham, E. Mailings, J. R. , Arbuthnott, lion. H. Farrer, James Mundy, William Arkwright, .G. Fellowes, Edward Naas, Lord Begot, Hon. W. nine; Sir E. Napier, Joseph Bailey, Crawshay Fitzroy, lion. H. Newdegate, N. Baillie, H. J. Forbes, William Noel, G. J. Baird James Fordyce, A. D. Nugent, Sir Percy Baldock, E. H. Forester, Colonel Ossulston, Lord Bankes, G. , Fox, S. W. L. Packe, C. W. Barrington, Lord . Freestun, Colonel Pakington, Sir J. Benbow, John Freshfleld, J. W. Palmerston, Viscount Bennet, Philip Fuller, A. E. Patten, J. W. Beresford, William Gallwey, Sir W. P. Pennant, Colonel Blair, Stephen Galway, Viscount Portal, Melville Booth, Sir R. Gaskell, J. M. powlett, Lord W. Bowles, Admiral Gilpin, Colonel Prime, Richard Bremridge, Richard Gladstone, W. E. Pusey, Philip Bridges, Sir B. Glyn, G. C. Renton, J. C. Shaw, M. Gooch, Sir E. S. Repton, G. W. Brockman, E. D. Gore, W. 0. Richards, Richard Brooke, Sir A. Goulburn, H. Rushont, Captain Bruce, Lord E. Grosvenor, Lord R. Salwey, Colonel Bruce, C. L. Gwyn, Bowel - Sandars, George Buck, Lewis W. Hale, R. B. Scott, Francis Buller, Sit J. Y. Raiford, Sir H. Seaham, Viscount Burghley, Lord Haliewell. E. G. Seymour, H. D. Burrell, Sir C. Halsey, T. P. Sidney, Alderman Batler, S. P. Hamilton, G. A. Spooner, Richard Butt, Isaac Hamilton, Lord C. Stafford, Augustus Campbell, W. F. Hardinge, C. S. Stanford, J. F. Carew, W. 11. Pole Hayes, Si r E. Stanley, E d war d faveadish, W. G. Hcathcote, Sir G. Stanley, W. 0. Chaplin, W. J. • Henley, J. W. Stewart, Admiral Christopher, R. Herbert, H. A. Stuart, Lord D. Christy, Samuel Herbert, Sidney Stuart, 11. Clay, James Berries, J. C. Start, Henry G. Clive, R. H. Hodges, T. L. Tennent, R. J. Clive, H. B. Hodgson, W.N. Thompson, Colonel Cobbold, J. C. Hope, Sir J. Trollop Tyler, Sir G. e, Sir J. Cocks, T. S. Hope, II.:T. Cogan, W. H. H ope, A. Tyrell, Sir J. Coles, H. B. Hudson, G. Vane, Lord 11. Collins, Thomas Hume, Joseph Verner, Sir W. Collins, William Inglis, Sir:tt. Villiers, viscount Copeland, Alderman Jolliffe, Sir W. G. Vivian, J. H. Corry, H. Jones, Captain Vyse, R. H. Cotton, W. H. K err i son, Sir E. Walpole, Spencer Crowder, R. B. Kinnard, A. F. Walsh, Sir J. Cubitt, Alderman K nox, W. S. Watkins, Colonel Darner, Colonel Langton, W. H. Whi tes G, E. Davies, D. A. Legh, G. C. Whiteside, James Deedes, W., Lewisham, Viscount Whitmore, T. C. Disraeli, B. Lockhart, A. E. Wigram, Loftus Dodd,. George Lockhart, W. Willcox, B. M'Ghie Drummond, Henry Long, W. Williams, T. P. Drummond, Home Mah on , Viscount Williams, William Duckworth, Sir J. Martin, John Worcester, Marquis Duncombe, A. Maunsell, T. P. Wrightson, W.B. Du Pre, C. G. /Jetta, Sir Henry Wynn, H. W. East, Sir J. B. Miles, William Wyvill, Marmadake Edwards, Henry Milton, Viscount Egerton, Sir P. Mitchell, T. A. TELLERS. Ellice, E., jan. Molesworth, Sir W. Mackenzie, W. F. Emlyn, Viscount Moody, C. A. Bateson, Thomas Euston, Earl Morgan, O. MINORITY--NOES, 47. Adair, R. Shafto Greene, John Pllkington, James Alcock, Thomas Hardcastle, J. A. Reynolds, John Armstrong, Sir A. Heard, J. I. Robartes, T. J. A. Bell, Jacob >, , Hepworth, L. Scobell, Captain Bouverie, E. P. Ilindley, C. Scully, Francis Brotherton, J. Holland, Robert Scully, Vincent Brown, H. Keating, Robert Smythe, George Crawford, W. S. Keogh, William Smollett, A. D'Eyncourt, C. T. Kershaw, James Sullivan, Michael Douglas, Sir C. Laslett, William Tollemache, F. J. Duff, James Meagher, Thomas Walmsley, Sir J. Duke, Sir J. Mahon, O'Gorman Williams, John Duncan, Viscount }lowan, Francis Wood, Sir W. P. Duncan, George Murphy, F. S., Duncombe, T. }Torrey's, Sir D. TELLIES. Ellis, John OTlaherty, Anthony Anstey, T. C. Ewart, William Pechell, Sir G. Scholefleid, W. THE " COUNT our' OF LAST NIGHT. The following Members were present when the House of Commons was counted out last night : Lord Robert Grosvenor Mr. D'Eyncourt Mr. Sharman Crawford Mr. Hindley Mr. Smith Child Mr. Lacy Mr. Howell Gwyn Mr. G. A. Hamilton Mr. Hay ter Colonel Gilpin Lord Duncan Mr. G. Greenall Lord Dudley Stuart Colonel Thompson Mr. T. Hobhouse Mr. Thornely Mr. Anstey Mr. Meagher Mr. Scholelield Mr. V. Scully Mr. Spooner Mr. O'Flaherty Sir Joshua Walmsley Sir B. Bridge s Sir W. Page Wood Mr. Packe Mr. J. Greene Mr. S. Carter Mr. H. Brown Mr. T. Duncombe Captain Schobell Mr. Grogan The O'Gorman Mahon Mr. Tancred Mr. W. Williams Captain Fordyce Mr. J. Ellis. Mr. John Williams THE CANTERBURY ELECTION_COLO NEL ROJELLY AND MR. SMYT HE. We have been requested to publish the following TO THE ELECTORS OF CANTERBURY. Gentlemen,—lnasmuch as Colonel Romill y has thought proper to iss ue an address, " which I shall ab. stain from characte risin g ," I amr reluctantly compelled to follow him throug h the mazes of adifference which I had hoped seas at °le e anindorteo,r h e e v o e a r n a se t alnheana been dh led to . I had hoped so believe that our dispute terminated in the common for mality which Colonel Reinilly and my se l f went through which I • I " eel that an apo l ogy on Friday last, for w sincerely feel incere y is due to you, gentlemen,in the pres ent temper of Bri tish opinion. But at least it wa s not my fault if British d o n that occasion was profaned, and nothing b u t ghe roun i ns uperable scruples of my gallant co l league " for t private and family reasons of his own" against an issue abroad, prevented me from showing that deference to the general mode of thinking in this country which I feel that you have a right to exact. At any rate, I am confident that you will approve of the feeling in which I met my adve rsary ' s second half-way, w hen, with honourable p ro mptitude, he express e d hi s anxiety to mo on Friday morning that thenceforward, throughout tho contested election, all bad blood and all ill-feeling might cease to exist. Colonel Romilly, however, has since thought it expo dtent to re-open the whole question. First of all by his insisting nen the publication of " the minutes of a dif ference," to which Captain Vivian, on my part, was strongly opposed, and to which he only, after long delays and grave objections, finally consented; and, se condly, by the address now lying before me, which is very imperfectly correct. My gallant colleague states " that he had no commu nication with me previous to the election of 1850." I never said that ho had; but I asserted, what ho does not contradict, that I wrote to the chairman of the meeting which introduced hire, for the first time, to the electors of Canterbury, calling upon all my friends to support him. Colonel Romilly goes on to say, that "his being then elected " was not, iu his belief, ow i ng to my sup port. I b e li eve that it was so owing; and a reconcile ment between these two contrary beliefs is obviously impossible. I am glad, however, that Colonel Romilly does not deny, if he somewhat ungraciously acknow ledges, my assistance, in hie phrase, " The fact of that support I am ready to admit." My gallant colleague goes on to st a t e ,---" O n t h e su bj ect of t h e now approach ing electio n I never had any formal interview with had. Mr. Smythe." H ere , aga i n , I never con t en ded that he "It is tru e th a t, h av i ng met mo on seve ral occasions, ho (Hr. Smythe) has originated conversations with i me en int of this sentence consists the subject." No w , the po in the word which I have ventured to italicise. It is precisely my charge against Colonel Romilly that he did allow mo to originate conversations on the election. My spoken words were these:—" At any rate it was under the hallucination that our coalition, as I had heard nothing to the contrary, still subsisted, that, directly after the certainty of an immediate dissolution, I spoke to my colleague iu the sense of making la mes diate and joint preparations." Colonel Romilly remarks, very truly, that " Smythe appeared to be annoyed, and expressed himself warmly on the occasion ;" but the gallant officer is under a complete misapprehension when he continues —"b u t ho afterwards distinctly adnaitte.i to me that I had acted towards him fairly and openly in the matter." The matter to which I alluded in these expressions had no reference whatever to Colonel Hominy's generel conduct towards myself ; they were simply used in courteous no kowledgment of a letter which Colonel Romilly had sent to me, intimating hie intention to hold a meeting of his friends in Canterbury; sad had I known that at that meeting Sir William Somerville's name was to he pro pose d, I certainly should Oct have complimented Colonel Iloatilly either upon his openness or his frankness. There i:3 but one more point in my nolleague's address on which I desire to animadvert. Not, perhaps, with out an object, he seeks to impress upon your mind that lam animated by some spirit of " vengeance," which word he has c are f u lly i so l ate d f rom t h e con t ex t of my speech of the 17th. But there is no one among you who dohs not per- The following are the present prices of grain : 8. 8. Wheat, English, red 37 t o 40' teas, white and yeL 30 -- 1 Do. whit e — 4 O 44'Do. grey - A g Dantzic and Igo- Linseed, Black Sea 44 -- nigsberg 42 46 Do. Pet ers b urg h ... 42 -- 45 ~, Pomeranian and Do. Riga & Archngl. 38 -- ''''' Hamburgh - 4 0 Danish, Holstein, & Per ton' Friesland ......... 36 38 Lins. c., Hull 71 15s Od to 01 05 Russian and Odessa 34 38 Do. fine for. —.71 55 Od to 010 0 Oats, English Do. Danish... ....... n 3 Do.Friesland ......... 18 2.1 Rape cakes...92s 6d to 00s 03 Russ. & Odessa 15 17 Tares , English ......371 -- L„'„,`''' Barley,malting ...... 28 30'Do. foreign 328 -- °'''''„ Do. grinding ........ 23 27 Guano 5l 71 to 91 10 Beans 29 31 Bones, do Do., foreign 26 2 8 R ye Meal CORK, May 24. 955 to r i s 600 d Barrels. 0 White wheat 00s Od to 00s 6 Red wheat lBs Od to 18 s 0 Ditto ~.,....00s Od to 00s 0 Ditto COs Od to 00s 14 Barley 12s Od to 00, 0 Ditto OO3 03 to 003 0 Ditto ...00s Od to 00s 0 Bere. Od to 00s 77 Oats Ils Od to 12s 0 Ditto ... 033 03 to 003 0 Ditto ... oos Od to 003 0 Pigs 0;;s 03 to 00s y at the g' 0 barrels white uantit wheat ; sold 5 red ;Ifi U 0 pigs, Quantbite.,t, y a of l. G 7 rain iaar an le d y N, is umber Oats, 636. sold lastpPig s, 0 . weal[ w PRICES OF BUTTER. CANT. CURRZNCY. First quality Second quality 63s Third quality ............... 540 .. .•• Third quality Fourth quality Fifth quality ............... 34s Sixth quality Return of Cattle sold fo r week ending M ay 15 . Pigs, 249. She3p, 334. Cows, 44.3 CORK.—Flour—First 12, 63 to 13s Od ; extra 14a 0,1; seconds, lis Od to 12s Od; households lOs tolls ; thirds, 7s to 91 per cwt. Oatmeal I is to 1 is 6d; Indian meal 7s 6d to 7s 9d; wheat meal, 8s 6d to 93 03 percwt, Indian corn 715 s to 7110 s Od pet ton. Bran 8786 d to 908 per ton. Hay—Farmers 21s 03 to 28s; average 00s; dealers 26s to 36, Od; average 00s per ton. Straw—Farmer' 10s Od to 17s Od ; average 00s ; dealers 26s Od to 00s 041 ; ahvoeursaegheoldoOlsoafod E r a tor.. to 04 Bread—Wh eaten loaf Gild to Od per 41b. Fresh butter, 8 d t° 10d per lb. Eggs -3s 4d to 3s 6d per hundred. Coals Newport 1.53 Od ; L y d ney 151 ; Landore ()Os ; Cahn, 120 6d per ton. Tallow 35i Od to 39s per cwt. Whisky, 25 o. p., 5s 9d per imperial gallon. Meat —Beef 4id to 7d' mutton 5d to bid; re a l 53 to 7d ;pork 4d to Od ; bacon 6d to 73 ; sausage; bd per lb. Hops 818 s to 9/ Os per cwt. Bangor slates 2/178 6d to 3/ Os pe' ton. Bark, red 71to 8/ 103 per ton. Fleece wool 148 to 158 per stone._ Hemp 291 to 34/ per ton. Fish—Saotch herrings 198 to 00g; red ditto, 248 to GO; per barrel ; Newfoundland, 10/ Os to 11/ per ton. Timber—Memel, 70s per ton; red pine, 31.5 s ; yellow ditto, 9 / 15s pe r t on ; d ea l s , 151 t o 181 per 100. Hider—.. Market 16s to 245; salted 18s to 24s per owt ; calf skins 3d to Od per lb. Potatoes, white 83 to 9d; pickh 103 to 123. Guano—Peruvian, PE 10, to 111; lehal, o4 o, 81 to 0/ a per ton. Tar—Archangel, 191 per barrel. Carrectop Od 00, od __2o stone 6dl Od OOs Od--2° dd Od Od - } od 00, Ad/O0 do Od Od 01 od Od} Od , no 6d-0 do 0 Od 00a Od per cwt ;hest Prices:— ) barley; 0 bere; 6 oats; [ADVERTISEMENT.]—HoIIo-cmy's Pills a cortaia Cure for Headache, Bile, Loss of Appetite, and Lowness of Spirits.—These invaluable pills can be taken without d an ger from wet or cold, requiring no restraint from business or pleasure. They act mildly on the bowels, without p a i n or griping, strengthen the stomach, and promote a healthy ac tion of the liver, whereby they purify the blood, cleanse the skin, brace the nerves, and invigorate the whole system. They prove an admirable remedy also for those who suffer from a de bilitated constitution, as they create an appetite, correct indi gestion, remove bile, giddiness, nervousness, or sick headaches, and palpitation of the heart.—Sold by all Druggists, and at Professor Holloway's Establishment, 244, Strand, London. BIRTHS. OP A 8 0 IT. row, on the 21st inst., the wif e o f D r. S. Thompson, of Church- OnHmte the 23d ins'. at Totternhoe, Bedfordshire, the wife of the Rev. Thomas H. Daper. At OP A DA1.7(71471,12. Madeira, on the 19th ult., the lion. Mrs. Charles Napier. College On the 22d in s t., at the Principal's residence, Brasenose , Oxford, Mrs. Harrington. On the 23d inst., at Chessington-hall, Surrey, Mrs. George Chancellor. On the 2 MARRIED. 2d inst., at St. Giles's, Camberwell. Charles 13- Thurston, Esq., 8.A., of Southampton-street, 13Ioomsbury square, elder son of the late S. Thurston. Esq., to Georgians, second daughter of the late G. Robins, Esq., of Peckham. DIED On the 23d inst.. at Brixton-place, Brixton, Surrey, An drew F. Thomas, Esq., formerly of Mark-lane, City, aged 74. On the 21st inst., at Bath, the Rev. Edward Gosling, rector of Hawstead, Suffblk, aged 88. Oa the 22d inst., at Chepstow-villas W est, Octavius, th i r d son of G. Sell°ley. Esq., of Westhourne-terrace, aged 26. At Brighton, on the 22d inst., Anna Alaria wife of Charles Coles, Esq„ aged 70. , On the 23d inst., Mr. T. M. Sanderson, of St. Mildred's cottage, Kilburn, aged 67. London: Priutod and Published by MURDO YOUNG, of No. 11!2, Strand, Printer, at The S un Offi ce, NC. lIS:1 Strand, in the Precinct of the Swov 4 i n t h q w ogs a Middlesex, Wedne§cloys 814 y 2; 18'02. Gilchrist, who described himself as clerk, of Thavies' Lint with having obtained 500/. and upwards, under false pre- tences. Mr. Lewis, of Ely-rents, Holborn. attended for the prosecution, Mr. Valiance for the defence, and the case excited considerable interest. It appeared from the statement of the prosecutor that he had employed the accused in conveyanciog when h e occupied chambe rs N o. 4, Veruiam-buildings, Gray's Inn, and had other dealings with him. About twelve months ago the prisoner called upon him and represented that he had a suit in Chancery, and that there were 9001. due to his credit as taxed costa unencumbered, and if b e (prosecutor) would advance him 5001. as purchase-woe/ it would enable him to obtain the 900/., on which be would return the 5001. lle had not eince been paid the 5001., and found that the prisoner bad not paid the money into court, that he had no cower over 9001. in the Court of Chancery, and, having kept out cf the way until he was traced he (witness gave him into the custody of T. Bristow, T 90, on the charge of obtaining the 5001. by false pretena,s. George Benbow, clerk ‘ to Mr. Hall, solicitor, stated that there were two suits in the Chancery Court, "Beer and Badly," and "Richards and Badly." In th e i former suit in 1848 a bill o f costs was taxed for 844 " The prisoner was concerned in the case. If there was a stop-order he did not think the prisoner knew - anr thing of it. Mr. TvitwarrT, after a patient hearing of the cgs. , said there was no evidence to warrant the prisoner's remand or detention. There ought to be evidence 5g to there being a stop-order on the 9001. There was n e pretence for the charge of obtaining money under false pretences. Mr. Lewis suggested that the prisoner might b e ordered to put in his own v-cognizlnces to appear og 5 f o u v tu r re in d Tt a h y e , tsourngivoef at i l oo o L pp to ortunity to produce evidence as to th e atop•order. Mr Ygwurrr acceded, and e t a h r e a prisoner; Ra t his s bn e o n u n r2 to answer th e charge on Wednesday, the 2d of June wolyanou,n2gl next, Smith, nign Mitchel l - street, St. L u k e ' s , w i t h h a ving brat decently dressed, was charged by Agnes manyea years s f repulsive o f sg erceosit Gillett, a tn d h p erp ty a - r l e o n o t k s i , violated d ei ns tfromebd by appoin t ment her, e t h r, e a e n v d d e a n h e o w e ft a on Sunday night l est she was toaokni mpreiltstohanip pmer her. eaaagre appeared k h geo e p d dwwraoai y s tl h e kn c , h u 2wi t hr o r b i t, x .e w f. 1 l hat 9: 1 00 : she accompani e d hi m to a concert at the Iroiimongers Arm', City road, where she took part of a g l ass a 5 1 0 with him. H e th en led her to a concert at the Salc 3 r and Compa sses , Penton-street, Pentonville, where s h e • took a port ion o f anot h er glass of ale, an d shortly a fter' wards she telt a stupor, and left the place , when the pri" sonar followed h er . They walked togetler until they arrived in a fi e ld. H e sa id h e would marry her, an d would set up tae bans. He pressed her to go home with him. She tried to get away from him, when ho pushed her down, and endeavoured to accomplish his purpose. She resisted him, and called out for "help," when the police arrived, and took the prisoner into custody. _- and mother had turned me out of doors. By the prisoner —I did not tell you that near Joseph one o,cl Smith, o c k 3 h 3 e 6 h B e's heard t d h t e hat criesye sterday my lather woman's voice, in Copenhagen-fields. He proceeded to the spot with another constable, and saw the prisoner r of,, and prosecutrix struggling on the ground. The latte r got up in an exhausted slate and clung to his brotb: t Murder," mor n ing,il2 attt constable. She said, 'Oh God! lam saved. Prote ct me." They took the prisoner into custody, when " begged to be let go, and on their way to the station . house he offered them half a sovereign to let him go. Mr. TYRWMTT inquired what the prisoner did t 0 prevent her screami ng ? P rosecutrix—He force d h i s finger into my mouth. The prisoner begged for mercy, saying that th e y were both drunk at the time. The officers denied this ; they were both sober. The prisoner was fully committed to Newga te for trial. THE COUNTRY MARKETS. IPSWICH, MAY 25. The firmness evinced in Liverpool and other markets c rag fully participated in our market today, whi c h, coup ; e d with a very short supply of wheat, gave th turn in f of tt e sellers ; and it appears hardly possible e to prevent avour an advo llw taking place. FIR QUARTER. Wheat, red ......... 4ls to 43s Peas PER ( 3l 3 S ki t i cr` 4 ; Ditto, white......... 45s to 47s Oats O O5 to vw,_„. Barley, malting ... OOs to 00s Rye oos to ( " Am Ditto, grinding ... OOs to OJs Ma1t..... ...... . Oa to ur u Beans . ..... AVERAGES FOR THE WEEK ENDING MAY 22, 1852. Wheat Barley Beans •••••• 25 31s 6d Peas Oats ... „ 04:1 3 Od HULL, MAY 25. Messrs. Taylor and Bright's Circular states :—There been more tone in the grain trade generally throughout the past week, and holders of fresh wheat, as well as some spr ing corn, have had some ad van t age. Arrivals continue trifling: and consequently the transactions in foreign gr a in are tol e limited. Th e wea th er h as b een variable, but on the wh ol e cold for the mont h . F or this day's market o ur f armers broug h t the currency fair suppl y o f f res h wheat, which met f ree sa l e at fullt,te f ; currency of last T ues d ay, w i th a strong disposition tollOALIce some advance. Foreign wheat neglected. A fair constnol'' l demand for each description of spring corn. The line. r,. market very q u i e t ; ca k es dull and lower, with more selee'—; of good foreign, of which it may not be imprudent for couti_tri dealers to t a k e a d vantage. Rape cakes and bones mainta'u our quotations.