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Noble Lord concluded with expressing his dissent fromthe motion, as nothing conid hr-expeaed from the Committee, according to the Noble Marquis's Marquis of .Landsdo):vn) own, admission, who had acknowledged that it would be dangerous to re vert to the old system. Lon► ROSSLYN spoke at some length in favour o, the motion. Lord LAUDERDALB made a general reply. After which the motion was negatived without a division. The House then went -into a Committee on the Gold Coin Biji, in which Lord LAUDERDALE proposed some amendments which rejetted. The pill was ordered to be reported without any amendments, and the House zdjouriled to Monday next. HOUSE OF COMMONS, rRIDAY, MAY 1. - A new Writ was ordered for the Borough of ,Langston, in the room of the Hon. Captain BEN NETT, who, since 'his eleaion, had accepted the Chiltern Mundteds. Mr. EYRE presented a Petition from Nottingham, complaining of the evils which they suffered from the pradtices of evil disposed persons, direaed against the stocking frames, &c. and praying 'relief. Ordered to lie on the table. Mr. WILBERFORCE presented a Petition from the Shipwrights (1 Bridlington, against the encourage ment given to bUilding Ships in the East Indies. Ordered to lie on the table. On the motion of Sir G. HILL, an Account was ordered to be laid before the House of the quan tity of Irish and Foreign .Linens retained' for home consumption for the . three years ending -, sth Jan.. 1812. On the motion of Sir HOME Portram, the Papers presented on the 2 Ist ult. relative to Captain King's claim, were ordered to be printed. Mr. J. SMITH' presented a Petition from Not tii:Oarn, against certain fraudulent radices, in the stocking matnufa6ture. Ordered to lie on the The Me3clge of the Lords respeaing the fourth _ . Revrr of the East Ind , a ,Affairs, was taken into tug Cher consideration,•and a printed Copy of the Re port was ordered to be sent to their Lordships. Mf, VARTIN brought in a Bill to regulate the Offices of Deputy Remetobrancer of the Court of Exchequer. Read 'a first time, and ordered to be r-ad a second ;ime on Friday, and to be printed.. On the rnwity) •of Mr, WHARTON, it was or deted, That at its rising, the House should adjourn to Monday. The Excise -Superannuailon Bill was read a se cond (Inv-, and ordered to be committed on Monday. The General Enclosure Bill was read a second time, and ordeted to be committed on this day three weeks, On the motion 6f Mr. CALCRAPT, there was or dered to be lrid before the House ar, Account of the Nunib r of Recruits raised monthly,. from the 24th December, 1411, to the 24th April, 1812, by or dinary Recruiting, exclusive of the Foreign and Colonial Corps.. On .ihe motion of Mr. W. POLE, Copies of the 13th and 14th Reports of the Board of Education in Ireland, were ordered to be laid before the Home. A person from the OlEe of the Chief Secretary f)r Ireland, immediately presented the above, which tvere ordered to lie on the table. Mr. W. PoLa.gave notice that he would move th,e Miscellaneous Services for Ireland, i❑ the Com mittee of S'apply, on Monday. Mr. WHARTON brought up the Report of the Committee on the Copper Duties. Agreed to, and a Bill ordered accordingly. • The Bill (or better manning ships employed in the Southern Whale Fishery, was read a 'second time, and.ordered to be committed on Monday. RIOTING. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER gave no tice, that on Monday he would move for leave to bring in a Bill to extend the provisions of the Riot Ati (which at.present were confined to Dwelling houses) to mills, manufatitories, &c. Recent oc currences rendered this a very important considera tion. The CHANCELLQR of the EXCHEQUER. brought in the Bill for the further-prevention of the counter feiting of Bank Tokens. Read g first time, and or dervd to be read a second time on Monday. The Report of.the Embezzlement Bill was taken into further consideration and agreed to, and the Bill was ordered to be read .a third time on Thurs tiy . n 4 message from .the Lords announced their Lord ships assent to the7lrish Auditors' 13111. The reference of Mr. Compton's Petition to the Comrnittt!e of Supply, 'was postp*Oned to Monday. In consequence of Friday being a day on which, by the regulation of the Howie, Orders of •the Day precede Notices of Motions, a conversation took place between Mr. Whitbread and the Chancellor of toe Exchever,in the course of. which Mr. W.hit breal intimated, that if the expeaed debate on the Report of the Barracii. : Estimates did not last until a late hour, he would.submit to the House his motion for the production of •the Documents on which the Americans founded their charge against the British Government ; but that, should that debate be pro aracted to any length,_ he trusted that an arrange ment would be made, by which a subject so grave, important, and pressing, might be brought under the consideration of Parliament at as early a period as possible. BARRACKS. On the motion ,that the report of. the Committee of SupplV, comprehending the resolutions relative U)the.Batrack Estimates, he now taken into further c nisidcralion, Mr. FREEMANTLU rose, and re-stated at consider able lengtb his former observations on the subjeCt. expitiated on the great amount of the various fstiniates for the barracks at Liverpool, Bristol, Mary hone Park, &c. - iand commenTed•on what he terrnedt he itidecolum of . - ppresting the people at such a wornentof distress as the present, will' ad ditional burdens', for'perposes which might ultimate ly prove ro the liberty of the subject. He st Ited . f)!.' 000.r",101. to Imvo been raised in the last FAST cuAkttit. ~i. - - --- - 'Mr. PotiSONnY observed, that the Right klorl L , . Gentleman (th e Ch ance ll or of the Exchequer), !'S i given the House to understand, That in she c 0110.% of the present week, his .plan for the future govc"' went of our East India posiessions, and tor 1116 renewal - of the East India Company's Ciliate , might be laid on their table. He now wished id ask the Right Hon. Gentleman if he still ti;(g l ' t of bringing the subject forward in the r i,teil l Session The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHECHJER , 4 ;fatel -cis, tain diffetences of opinions to hate arisen betw 6 C the East India Company and Governthent, wt: ic , made it less probable' than tikmerly, that he slicu* beable . to biing the measure he had in contetyPt ) ; Lion - before the House in th e course of the Wei"l'i Session. A .Court of Directors had been held till day, the result of which it was possible wOoll e l ': able him to ;peak with greater certainty by Mod`' day. From the conyersations he had had with se/ veral East liidia Proprietors, he was led to apr e : bend • that the necessary aqangements wouli r''', be made, so as to enable him to bring the Matt e ' to a successful termination in the Course of the pre . ' sent SeSsioli., The Mail Coach Exemption Bill went through Committee, the repott.of which was'ordered to b ' s received on Friel ~y: BROUGHAM rose to move, that the Or!er of the Day for going - into the Committee on the Ordef 4 in Council should be read, for the purpose of post' posing Some conversation.followed, in which the Chan' cellor of the Exche - quer, Mr.• Tierney, Al f ' Brougham, and Mr. Banks participated. - The latter . Hon. Gendernan consented to let the Committee precede hiS Bill on Mond sv, with an understatiC fr . sing that •its ex.nninations - hall terminate before nin e o'clock, so that the Report••of the Reversionary Grant Bill may be brought up at that hour. The Committee was then postponed to Mond)'' Adjourned at Two o'clock• this morning. ZIOATITLY AGRICCLTURAL REPORT- The seed process has gone on heavily upon strorq, and rough .land, f rom t h e i r parched and elod d e n surface, the_ consequence of some weeks' drought there is yet much to do, nor will it be perform-( 1 in that style of good husbandry for which a tirPr 6 genial season is required ; the present, in eour•iei., will be late. All the spring corn and pulse -above ground in very backward state, parched by cold, dry; norther' ly and easterly winds, and much in want of shouter' : ‘ Nothing done yet upon the fallows: The clops wheat which originally .planted well are universolq in a flourishing state, that crop being seldom 16 ' jured by dry weather in the spring ;• but those upoil poor, ill-cultivated, and undrained .soils, the eollf. appearance of whi c h was unthrifty, sho w at p r esent very thin, and of a yellow unhealthy colour. Reports of the fertility of the newly inclosed ball general, and the mode of breaking them up ill af l improved clistriels, that of paring and burning, all the old objeetions to which are proved futile ssr groundless, where subsequent good culture is per'e' vered in; namely, working the eradication of weedgi and a fair portion of manure. Bothifat and lean cattle ,cheaper, from the scat% and 'enhanced price of food. Pigs somewhat dearer' Nothing new respeflin,g sheep - and lamb s . A fait Stock of hay upo n hand, straw proportionably delr dent. , . Smithfield.—Beef, Cs. to 65. ; M u t ton, ss . ft' 6s. 6d.; Veal, 7s. to 73. Bd. ; Pork, ss: to 7 5 !; Bacon, 6s. 8,1. ; Irish ditto, ss. 6d, to 6s. ; FA' 43. Bd. ; Cake, 171. i 73. Corn Exchange. wheat, 80s. to 13Ss..per ( plat ter. The.quartern coat 18.. d. Bailey, 54i. to 7 25 ' 5 03IS, lOs. to 525. ; Potatoes ) 71. to 101. per too i. Hay, 41, t .0;, to 61. 164. per load ; Dover ditto* 61. to 71. 125,. ; S traw , _2l. 10s. to 31. 16s. Thnrsd afterao 41, a shocking a client happen' ed iu Piccadilly, during the bostling_of carriages t° and from the Drawing-mono: As'a genteel tressed youth, about t 8 years of age, of rho name of Smith'.. ing, a clerk, in Brook-street, was crosing the kgri: he was knocked down by the pole of a carriage, the wheel went over both his thighS,which were brolien. At the rate the carriage was going, the driver had not an opportunity of preventing the ao" cident, The youth was conveyed to the hospital . , in a dangerous state. .• . LIIRTUS. Mrs. Corfield, of Chatham-place, of a Son, being.her tenth child. On Wednesday last, the wife of lohn Butcher, 'a weekly servant, Prince', —court, Commercial-road, Lasi►beth, 014%0 boys and a girl, aft likely to do welt. On the evening of the 29 - th j anuary last, in Spanish :Town , fiunaica, 1 . Adoiplins, Eq. Surgeon to His Majesty's forces. EininJ, youngest daughter ut the late josepit Adolphni , Esq.' • -. Wednesday last, at Banstcatt, in Surrey, the Rev . Wii" liarn•Uenry Walke., to Harriet Harrison, daughter of Law' rent: liiickwuod, Esq. D I 5 D . On .Monday the zoth tilt.. at Durham, the Rev. Robert Thorp, D. 1).• Att.:We:won of NortitumbeiLtrid, - aged 75. On the 23t1 ult. Mrs. U. Holmes, of WAlworth Com mon, aged 71. In Bristol, early on Tursday, ,morni n g, at ilK,muse of her son-in-law, fames Lean, lsq. Mts. Stuckey, reli-t of the late Samuel Stuckey, Esq. in the tat year of her age. On Tuesday, in Gower -street, Airs. Leeds, in the 70th yeir of her ige. On Wednesday last,lt the I relit:T. tionse, in Lean- freer, Soho, alter a long and. painlul Helen, #.t . :he Rev: Ur . M'Cleod, Rector orSt. Ainte's WestrninsTer. • At BhickheAth, the infant daughter Captain - Thomas Larkins. At Birmingham, after a short illness, in the 74th year of his age, Clay, Esq. of Birmingham, and .king-strect, Covent garden. COAL MARKET, AiAY I. • Ships at Market. - Ships sold. Price. Newcastle . . o —s. 3d. to —s. ed. Scotch Coal . . . 3ss. od. to S. od. Cu . . i . 40s, 6d. to --s. od; . HIGH WATER,AT LONDON BRIDGE TO-MOR ROW. Morning, 7 min. after 6. Evening, sz min. after 6. • - LUND' N : Printed by 1 110 MA ti 00 D, of No. 35, Maiden-lane, Covent-gardt.nf ; and Published by WII LIAm ARA:TIGER SCRIPPS, South Molton-street, Grosv6,or-square, At the SuN , OFvica, No, itc, strand, where 4dvertirements, Orders fbr the Paper, I etters fur the Editor, &c.(postlaid), must be addressed, yelp. this stim exceeded by 5,000,0061. what had been raised in the precedingyear,andby 55,000,0001. , What had been called foi - on the commencement of the war in 1793. This sum, immense a 4 it was, he had however to state, Was insufficient to cover our expences, and under such circumstances he called upon' the House to resist the extrakigant grant which they were called upon to vote, and trusted he should not call in vain. He concluded moving as an amendment, " That the Report should be brought up on that day six months." Some conversation here took place as to the ef fea of the amendment on that part of the report which was not objected to.. The result was, Mr. Freemantle withdrew the amendment he had mo ved ; and at the suggestion of Mr. Bankes,. it was moved as an amendment, to deduct from the ori ginal giant the sum of ninety thousand pounds, by substituting the sum 434,0001. for 524,0001. the sum which they were first called Upon •to vote. General TARLETON objeaed to that part of ►he' plan, which went to make Liverpool the military. point of communication bet ween Great Britain and Ireland, and prayed for his constituents (who had no ohjeaion to the ereolion of barracks in or near Liverpool) that, at all events, they might not b& erected on the particular spot at Everton, which had been•marked out. Mr'. C. SMITH strongly recommended every pos sible saving of the public money, at the presesit mo- " mentous crisis, and objeaed 'to the zroposed bar-• racks at Bristol and - Liverpool, but above all, to those in Marylebone-paik. Mr." B. BATriuttsr spoke in favour of the vote, and in particular contended, speaking of the biz.- racks at Bristol, that a'place where they were more necessary could hardly be named, as well to relieve the innkeepers and town's-people, as with a view a view to the benefit• of the service. General GAscosoNa did riot oppose the vote alto gether, but wished some means to be - devised to avoid erecting the proposed -barracks at Liverpool. Mr. WROTTESLEY said the House ought well to consider, if it were necessary to erea the barracks at all. It was said the inn-keepers would be re leased by the measure, but did Gentlemen consider what a permanent expence these would entail on the country? If happily a. peace were made tomorrow, these would still be an expence to the country. Might it not then he better to give the Mn-keeper some compensation for the inconveniences to wh,i(ll they were subjeaed.— It had been stated on a former evening, that one of the reasons for ere ling barracks in 11aq-la-bonne- Park was, that if any disturbance should arise in the metropolis, they might he called out to crush it im mediately. He admitted that Government should have the means of putting down a riot at once, bial with a view to effect this, was it necessary to have the military actually in the metropolis. What were the barracks at Hounslow, &e. for ? We had a sufficient number of troops : within two, or at most three hours march of ,the metropolis, to quell any such tumult. 'lf the barracks were to be erected at all, he thought they ought to be built on a more economical plan than had been proposed. Upon the whole, he thouglitit would be much b:_oter to give the sum proposed (or the eretlion of there bar. racks in aid of the distressed manufacturers in the country. He should most decidedly vote against the grant. Mr. WHARTON re-stated what he had advanced on a former occasion in defence of - the grant. He contended the barracks proposed to be and at Liverpool and Bristol were necessa r y ; and. with re ' sped to the Petiti on o f the former place against the eretlion of them on,a particular spot, he had to say that the vote before the House would not pledge them for their ereEtion at San Domingo, the place alluded to. The Commander in Chief had consent ed to their being erected bn any other spot that could be found equally eligible, and one ..or two si tuations equally good, had already been pointed out. He defended the choice of Mary-la-bonne Park to build barracks on, as, chusing that spot, they, had nothing to pay for the ground. He admitted the sum called for was enormous, but, at the same* time, he was confident, that barracks on the model most . approved of, that of the buildings in Hyde Park, could not be erected at a less expence. "He then went on to state the various advantages which would be possessed and afforded by the barracks itt Mary la-bonne Park. Here he stated what were the prices of bricks, labotir, timber, &c. at the time the bar racks were built in Hyde Park,' and compared these.., with the current prices of the present day, from which it appeared, the increased expence was about three hundred per cent. Why then, if this were the fad, as appeared from the tablei of prices be -I,ore him, and if the barracks in Hyde Park cost 52,2491. the present estimate, large as it was, was not so large as might have been expeaed, when it was given•in at 133,0001, Mr. BANKES thought no 'necessity had been proved. for erthing the proposed - works now, and therefore called upon the House at past to suspend the Propbsecl grant. The present state of the ports of the Baltic has so enhanced the price of timber, that it was . scarcely possible to st.-Wt a period at 'which the expense of building would be greater. The Hormurable Gentleman expatiated at con Side r ble length on the su bj e d ; an d i n the course of .his obsexvat►ous expressed a;douht as to the necessity of providing, that all the Officers of the Dragoon Re. giments should be lodged under the same root as the privates._ General PHIPPS was deeidedly of opinion, /hat it was necessary that the Officers should be lodged under the roof as the' men. . . - Sir J; NEWPORT asked,' whether it was so with he Foot Guaids? Gen. Phipps replied, that it would be much bet er if it were so. Mr. CREEVEY made a number of observations hostile to the grant, and particularly commented on the negledt of -the Surveyor General of his Majes ty's Land Revenue (Lord Glenbervie) to comply with the pro Visions of .the Aat of Parliament, by which he was, directed to lay before the House at the commencement of the Session, a report relative to the 540 acres of,Crown Land at Mary-le-bonne, the lease of which had expired. He objeeted very strongly to leaving the management of this land in the hands of Lord .Gienqervie, - who as a chief Proprietor of the Regent's Canal pasling through it, had contrived to provide (or some very Vidasant agtt6thehts between hittacti and ilirnFetei in his respective capacities. Colonel WOOD maintained , the necessity of the grant, particularly as it regarded Bristol. Mr. W. WY RN tuba-Alined tile enormotis ex penditure to which'it would lead. Mr. B ASTARD was of opinion that a previous in quiry shouldlie instituted into the causes of the su periority in point of strength and comfort, of Barracks built 50 years ago, over those recently ete&ed. Sir F. BURDETT objeEted to the grant do What he was pleased to call constitutional giouods. It was evidently the object of Government to make use of the army which was paid by the people, to s,d:)due the people. They wi s hed to h ave t h e troops in reii diness,•in order to make war on the people.—(Load and genfral .cries of disapprobation )---When the measures of Govertmtent - had spread discontent through the country, when trade was annihilated, when the people were still fui tiler exasperated by a scarcity of- fuod, they still persevered- in their sys tem, and torned a deaf ear to the distresses of the country.--(No, no !)—Much had been said of the tyranny of Buunaparte. Wha( did the House think of the•tyranny of our Government, whiCh te sorted no longer to the law, but to the - sword ) (General expressions of dissent.) —Gentlemen might say no, no ; ,but 4 was true. Soldiers were em ployed every hour. Had they Hot committed mur der on people General MANNERS spoke to order. Thellon. Baronet had no right thus to attempt to throw a-slur on - the army. Sir F. BURDETT contended .that he was not dis orderly. GovernMent had no right to use the' sol diers as they had done. The Riot A. gave them no such power. In the best times of English, his -tory, our Sovereigns felt their greatest security to be in the 'affection of the people. A standing army had brought Charles I. to the block. After .a va riety of observations of a similar nature, the Hon, Baronet concluded by decraring that he should give his decided vote against the grant. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought that whatever difference of opinion might prevail as to the estimates, the speech of the flooourable Ba ronet would not excite one sentiment faVOurable to, the opinions which he entertained, or that would induce a belief either in or out of the House, - that he abed under good and sound discretion in holding out to the people that a measure of necessity, not as he had stated for subduing and crushing the liberties of the people, and making war against the Constitu tion ; but for protecting the law—for protecting the lives and properties, the valuable properties.Of the King's subjeds.--,(Loud and repeated cries of hear, hear !)—For protecting ,their lives and property against t4e insinuations and attacks of incendiaries. —(Repeated cheers !)—The Honourable Baronet had 'chosen to take under his sanction, and to represent these incendiaries as. the - people of the country, whose liberties .were infringed---these very incen diaries, who with„force and arms plundered the property and destroyed the valuable inventions of the manufacturers, whose capital and wealth were em barked and spread throughf,ut the country.—(Bear, hear I)—At this time the. Honourable Baronet felt it necessary to promulgate dotlrines of ihe most mis chievous tendency, for the purpose of preserving the liberties of the people, as he would have the House to believe. Was this a time, when misguided per sons were proceeding, to. such acts of madness, and when it became necessary to call on the troops t 4.) „suppress what was little short of rebellion, that be should- tell this House and the country that the Government were meditating the subversion .of the liberties of the People: ?—(Loud cheering.— The Honourable Baronet, perhapsy - some few months ago, would have told the. same s•ory when Piccadilly, was a scene of similar disorder-- (Hear, hear, hear !)—`When the Government was obliged to have recourse to force to put down that spit it of resistance, which in despite of the I,aw was exerting itself in aid of the Hon. Baronet, and in contempt of the authority ,of the House.—(Con aimed cheering:),.—lt was easy to under Stand, th*ere ' fore, - why the Hon. Baronet does not like troops in Loncion.—:-(Repeated cheering. !)—There were sotrte little remains of awkward impression on the Hon. Baronet on the subject, which he was endeavhuring -to get rid of.—(Hear !)---But the 'Hon. B ironet might, defy him to, shew the House that .the authbrist,l the employment of military force. The law did recognize the use. Parlianient recognized it, and he would appeal to that favourite tribunal to which the Hon. Baronet was load of appealing— Trial by Jury—to bear him out in the fatt.—(Lond Cheering.)—Was it not necessary then when the multitude set defiance to the laws, when they were ratting seditiously, it not nearly in-a state of rebellion ? Was it not then necessary to *repress their proceed ings ?—(Hear, hear There. was any thing that could destroy • the Constitution; it- was these in staiiees—it would be by suffering these tumults to get head, that the country-would be endangered.• (Hear, hear !)—He was satisfied however, that the good sense'of the people of England would be of opinion, that the - sentiments of the Holm:liable 1 Baronet were ,either nothing better than ckclatua. tory rronsense, or if sense, they were c.denialed to do infinite mischief among' a certain class, and therefore hoped that they would be on their guard: The. Right Hon. Gentleman then defended the giant at,con,iderable length. Mr. Husxissow condemned the opinion of the Hon. Baronet, as tending to innate the public and ri.:iculed the allusions made to former periods, -particularly the reign of. Ehzabeth, as the period in which the laws were mildly administered, when she was' known to be the greatest tyrant that ever ex isted. He supported the Amend:tent. Mr. BARHAM intended to hate voted for the Amendment, bat for the most mischievous speech of the Hon. Baronet. He thoUBht the Right Hon. .Gentle Man lad treated the Hon. •Bironet. ungrate fully in the observati o ns w hi c h h e h a d .made on that speech, for he would 'get more votes .by it than he otherwise would have obtained.—(d Mug/IL-41e again deprecated lhe diffusion of such sentiments, and trusted he should not often see persons in this . country appeal from the laws to the mob. The House then divided— Fc• - • the Amendment Against it Majority against it • • 112 . I . 3 • • - 22