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was his intention to move, should be laid before the House a sufficient time before the secfmtireading of the Bill, to enable Gentlemen to.ey,ipe4ly inform ed to the disinssion. He inquired,' wheiher the Vice-Chamberlain, who was to haw atieffiCe in the new Household, was to retain his old salary and ac quire a new _ • The CHANCRLI,OR of the EXCHEQUER said, that his idea wa that' th'e Officers who were to be trans ' 41 7 r - e — lTlonv. one 4-.tafalriiittneurxn-the 011 w-should. be transferred. with tliv same salaries which they had hitherto enjoyed. He trusted that lie should be able to lay the papers moved for by the Hon. Gent. befora the House to-tnoirow. A conversation ensued seiween .Mr.TIERNEY and the. CHANCELLOR of the.,E4Ckie(llll3.ll.raiiketing the day on 'which theßill should be,read.a second time; the course of which Mr. Tier,ny . ptated, that- he tia t iersiOo . d the iinpurtant motion" - taiich s• ood for Friday iri,another place would be ptiktponed,- in con sequence of which, he - believed th - 4 a Right Hon. Friend of hid would posipone„,the motion on the same subjed; of, which he had given: notice for Monday next, in t name ofa.• Noble Lord.— (Theie motions were respecting the stale of Ire land. Eventually, the Bill was ordered" to be read a se cond time on Frid iy , with an understandi ng that it' . sh-onld also be conunitted on that day.. e ee COMMITTEE. OF .SUPPLY... The ..accounts pteseuted to the House .by Mr. VuARTON on Satnrdave with the exception of those , ralated to the War Taxes, having beets refer - Sed,treihe Committee of Supply, the House resolved to.the COmmietee. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in con sequence of his notice, and in pursuance of the ar. rangernents which he had recently detailed to the Committee, moved " Tien a sum not exceeding too,Ooot. be granted to his Maj.:sty, in order to make . provision for the expellees in . curled by his Koy.:l Highness the Prince Regent, in come -mouse of his assumption - of the exercise of the Royal Au.. thorny." • Mr. TiERNEY wished to know veletlaerthis sum was to defray the expences litie.liegent had incurred, or those which he wakabout to incur. If the latter, in his duty to the public,_ he must say that it was a strong measure to Call on Parliament. for a sum as an . outfit; for the Regent, which had D . etrer been granted as an outfit for a Monarch. Knowing as he did the great expense to which his 10.01 Highness had been.subject for the last twelve months, his dispo-itton was to asses to the mo tion ; belt he objected to the mode in which it was weeded, lest the House should be - involved in . the recognition of a principle - unprecedented and dangerous. . • T:teCHANCELLOR of the D.t.ctfg%tiEft replied, that lie had iri - teuded the words .to apply both retro spetelively and prospedively, aniPtesd no objection to introduce those expressions in his motion. He certainly meant. that the sum should cover the ex pences both of the temporary Regency, which his Royal Highness bad passed tisrough, and of the per - tnanent Regency into witch he was about to enter. No dangerous precedent could poSsibly be.affolded, . biicause in toe event of the demise vt the Crown, the Regent would of necessity succeed to the pro perty of the Crown, and no Parliamentary grant could then be required. Mr. tERNEY apprehended,. that at least his Royal Hi6liness should have been advised to send a message to the House on the subject. He did not think Parliament. were justified in asking his Royal Highness to accept of .100,0001. u'iless they offi cially {crew that he required ire He m. st willingly admitted the delicacy of the Regent's conduct &Ir e . ing the early part of his Regency, in declining 'making any addition to the natictisal butthens by the acceptance of an increased' Pieyenue, , and. he al lowed that his Royal Highness's.. subsequeet ex penses must have been very - coniiderable. Portia enenteaught to behave towards him with liberality but it was to the mode in which the measure was proposed that he objected, and he recommended to the Right Hon. Gentleman to withdraw his motion until Wednesday, in under to word it in a tuaunea snore satisfactory to the House ; for he confessed that he did not like the words " prospectively and net rospec , ively ." Tee CHANCELLOR Of the EXCHEQUER proposed, after the word " Expenses," to iritioduce the words, " that had been, or that might be." • Me WHITBREAD was Of Opitlioll,_t hat this motion • ought to .hate been preced . ZIIIXX - Me..ssage from his Royal Hig , ness ; and bowev6Pi l tYfhtoui the step • • might seem, he felt it his they to oppose the mo tion, until such an Address should be presented.- -He gave great and just Credit to his Royal Highness for the Message, of which the' Right Honourable Gentleman had been the bearer last session, and in which his Royal Highness declined, by the accept ance of any nether revenue, to be the cause of im posing additional burdens upon - the pe - ople; but "stow, without arty intimation froM his Roy sl High ness on the subject, the House was calreti upon to • rote him too,ouol. for the expences he had incur led, and which he might incur. How was this money to be kilt ided ? What portion was to 6fray past expense , , and what the future \Vlsai appointments had been made by his Royal liegh eness ? What visible expences had he incurred : He repeated, that he could not consent to the Resoluiiou, until his Royal Highness had been advised to send a :.`,les,age to Parliament on the sJb jet*. Mr. Secreiary RYDER observed, the Hen Gen - ileinan had entirelyenistikets the ealure of the ease. t lie ought to recolledi, that hiss Royal High . !less the Prince Regent declined occepting from the country, his Royal Highness Imrlicipited in. the ge neral expectation entertained at sitar period, teat the recovery of his Majesty, althetigh•perhaps it would not be immediate, was not 'very far distant. 'the llegetyy„ however, had now existed above a year, an,: his Royal Highness had been thus unex p •ctedly put to a very consiJetable expellee, al,. tteough he had made no regular appointments.' Mr. ADAM concurred in tie opinion of. the Right Honourable Gentleman who had just si oken, end in iintained thst it e wouid be .unhecoming in his . Royal 'Highness to • send .. any . Alessige: to the House on the subject, „unless • the striet ceders at Parliament required it,e. persuaded , that they requited ne It was per - fectly competent, to the House, to originate such 1.1 pronositton,, without any intimation from his Ilespe Highness. His Ri,' al Highness must hate aeseeiy iacurrea considerable expellee. To that cir cumstance the Ant branch of the motion • was ap plicable. With respect to the other br inch, lt,was, obvious that his tutu•e expenditure could not be, _the • subject of a particular estimate, although 'it might be that of the bounty of the House: His Rival Highness would be placed in a very different situation, were he assuming the sovereignly- of the country on the demise of the Crown. He would . then have occasion to consider the great question must- be -determined at the commencement of a reign. But at present his Royal Highness was iii a very different situation. • He was, it he might so express hit - Well, 'a stipendiary, with a fixed . in come. Under these circumstances, lie thought it the duty of Parliament, to his Royal Highness, to the Constitution, :ind to the coumry, to come for ward-in the first instance, and, without any con►- tnunication from his Royal Highness, to accede to the proposition made by the Right Hunourable Gen tleman. Mr. HURST thought when the expenses which must necessarily have been incurred by his Royal Highness in the situatiodof Regent, which situation it had been found necessary for him to fill for a period.so much longer titan had been at first ex paled, the grant they were called upon to make was but an at of strict justice. It was not a bounty given by Parliament, but only a sum voted to pay a jUst . debt. Mr.. WHITBREAD was not satisfied either by what had fallen front the Hon. aid Learned Gmtletuan, (Mr. Adam), or by what they had learned from the last Speaker, that the sum proposed shotild be voted, without a message from the Prince.—When the Hon. and Learned Gentleman last year brought down a message from the Prince of Wales, that he wished no expense to he incurred by the nation on his account, the communication as then made, from the situation in which that Hon. and Learned Gen tleman stood to his Royal Highness, as Prince of Wales, could be received : but circumstances were . different now, and he Was the proper channel for such a communication no longer. He •should, therefore, put aside all the information they bad had from his Honourable and Learned Friend, as the Regent could only sperm to that House by his Minister: With respect to the sum proposed, he did not know whether it was too little or too Much, he only wished for documents to shew what had been the expellee incurred. His Ho nourable and Learned Friend had said, that at the titre the Regent assumed the reins- of Govern ment, it was expected that his Majesty would soon recover, and that his continued indisposi tion had thrown greater expellees on his Royal Highness than could be anticipated in the first in stance. It was, however, to be remembered, that the sam proposed to be granted was merely to outfit," to pay the expences of his assuming the executive power under such restriaions, - and to meet those to be incurred by his taking it now as it was, to be permanently established. To him it appeared more.than ever indispensable, that before the• sum was voted,_ a communication train the PrinCe should he made by his Minivers to Parl a went, and he, for one, would not consent to the grant if such a communication was not made, Mr. TIERNEY said, he was bound to 'keep his faith with the Right Hon. Gentleman. • He should keep his word, and give him his vote ; but, from all that had been said, he was More and more convinced that be ought nut to have given the promise he had made. They had no document before the House, no statement that the sum proposed to be granted was wanted ; and, therefore, it appeared as it' the House, were to give away' the public motley where it was not required, as granted merely of their own accord. He had a gratuitous cont idtion that considerable ex pences must have been incurred by his 11 •yal Highness, and so when it was, proposed to raise Lord Nelson to the Peerage with a pen,ion of 20001. per annum, he had a conviEtion that he (Lord Nelson) had no private fortune of hi, own. But what then was the Mode in which Parliament had proceeded ? Why, it was -thought proper to come down with a message from the -Crown, as usual.. It had been said on the other side:that the subjeal was brought before the House by a passage in the Lords Commissioners Speech. This he de nied. The Speech confined itself to recommending it to them to make a provision for the King, and he could not see that the Prince Regent ought to have a moment's hesitation in sending a message down to that House on the subject. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER would be sorry to improve the advantage which the Right Hon. Gentleman had given him. He should be Old of the vote of the Right Hon. Gentleman ; hut On this, as upon all ocher occasions, if a Gentle man inadvertently promised his vote, and conceived himself to be bound in honour to an individual to tce - rn his promise, though he misunderstood the question, he thought he should nut behave with the same honour if he were to take advantage of the pledge so given. Though, as contended by the Hon. Gentleman oeposite (Mr. Whitbread), the Learned Gentlemah (Mr. Adam), might not stand in the same situation with the Regent, as that in which he had formerly st od with the Prince ofles, he (the Chancellor of the Ex chequer) could not see that there was any reason why that Hon. and Learned Gentleman should not give his opinions, and submit his arguments to the House. A message, he contended, on the present occasion was Vile unnecessary. In the Lords Comieissioners Speech they had been told, that " the Prince Regent had dire Ned copies of the last Reports of her Majesty the Queen's Council to be laid re-_eore them, and lie was satisfied that they would adopt such measures as the present melan choly exigency night appear to requite."- f -Than this, he thought nothieg farther could be wanting. He thought that pat t of the Speech was quite sufficient for Parliament to ptuceed on, as there it was recommended to them to make every requi site provision. Confident that they would do all b.lt was necessary, his Royal Highness had ab stained from speaking particularly of himself, and left it for them to decide what was proper to "be done, though he had thought he might with pro priety call upon them to make a sui able provision for his Royal Father. Under all these ci'cum stances, be trusted vbe Hoese would s:e that their le , hugs, as well as those of the Prince, were best consulted, by the mode in which ,this subject had been brought before them ; and that as it was not dewed that the expences of his . Royal Highness, in assuumi& the Executive Power, and continuing L 0 N D OA, TUFSDAY, JANUARY 21, 1812. Dispatches were this day received from Lord WELLINGTON, dated Frenada the 25:1) ult. One di - v4.ion of the. French army had retir-td beyond Pla centia, in the (lira:lion of Madrid. Dispatches were also received from Gibraltar, dated the 29th. The French continued thei► ope rations against TaritTa ; but it. did not appear that they had brought up their heavy artillery. There is Nothing new fiCtu Valencia. This morning a Gazette Extraordinary was pub lished, containing the official details of the news the arrival of which we announced yesterday. We are only able to give a small portion of it. Copy of a Letter from Lieut. Gen. Sir S. Aucts mum addressed to the ni _gat .... H 011.,Lord MINT°, and by him transmitted to the Earl of LIVER- FOOL, On board his Majesty's ship Modeste, off MY LORD, Sarnarang, Sept. 22, 1811. I have the honour to submit to your Lordship, .a continuation of the report which it is my duty to lay before you, of the proceedings of_ the army un der my command. Immediately on receiving the intelligence . of General Jansen's retreat horn Bngtenzorg by an eastern rouse, and the occupation of that post by our troops, I placed a force, consisting of the 3d battalion of Bengal volunteers, and a detachment of artillery with two•guns, under the orders of Co lonel "Wood, and directed his embarkation, in com munication with 'Rear-Admiral Stopford, who or dered three frigites on th'i service, for the purpose of occupying the fort of Cheribon. TraesPorts were at the same time put in a state of preparation for a force, consisting of the detachment of the Royal, and a company of Bengal artillery, a troop of his Majesty's eed dragoons, his Majesty's 1401 . and 78th regiments of foot, the 4th battalion of Bengal volunteer Sepoys, the Madras pioneers, and a.small ordnance equipment, with which it was my intention to embark, 2nd accompanying Rear-Ad miral Stopford with the sqnadr.,n, for the attack of Sourabaya and Fort Louis, towards which place.it was supposed the enecny had retired. A lerge part of hii M+jesty's 14th regiment, the royal artillery, and six field-pieces, were by the kindn ss of Rear-Ad.niral Stopfori received on bo - trd his Majesty's ships of war, and they with the trans ports sailed as they could be got ready for sea, with orders to rendezvous off the , point of Sidayo, near the western entrance of the harbour of Sourabaya. I embarked on the 4th of September, and early in the morning on the sth, sailed to join the troops in his Majesty's 'ship Mudeste, which the Admiral in attention to my convenience had allotted for roy ac commodation. • • • On the 6th of September, when on the point of hider - may°, I learned from an express boat, which had been boarded by Commodore Broughton, that Cheribon was in pOssess 7 On oithe frigates detached on that service, having separated from the transports on board of which ail their troops but the Com modore had embarked. Captain Bearer, the senior officer of the squadron, had landed the seamen and marines, and occupied the fort, which surrendered to his summons in time to make a prisoner -of Bri. gadier Jamelle, while passing-on his,roure from Bog tenzorg, with many other officers and troops. Let tersintercepred on this o' Gaston from General Jan sens, announced his inten.ion tocolle6l his remain ing force near Samarang, and to retire on Solo.--- 7 This intelligence determined, me to sail for Cheribon, where I arrived on the evAing of the 7th of Sep tember, and finding that no troops had yet arrived, that a detachment of seamen and marines-had marched inland on the Bugtenzorg-Road, -and been sucCe,sful in securing great numbers of the fogjfivisl from thence, and gaining 9 osgession, on terms of capitulation, of the post of CarongSambong on that route; I se:.t ith mediate orders for the march of reinforeettiedts . from the distri& of gatalAa." The cavalry, half of the horse artillery, add the detach• mew of his..lllajesty's 89th Regiment, from Bug- , tetvzorg, were desired to join me at Samarang, by 'Ore tote of - Cheriban, and the light infant'' , vo- Inteer battalion wtii ordered to embark at Batavia for the same place. I ob.ained from Captain 11-aver., of his M iiesty's ship Ni us, the dispatch of. vessels in every di rection, to meet the straggling. transports on their route to Sourayaoa, and direct them all to rendev vows at Samarang, addressing a letter to the no , nourable Adm'ral Scspford, to Commodore lkough , ton, and all, the Captains of his Mai •sly's i ps i requesting them to give similar orders. I sailed the same eveßing in the MOdeste, and, after meeting the Windham transport, and ordering her with the pd volunteer battalion to Cheribon, dit coed my course to Samarang. I arrived there, on the 9th, and was shortly after wards joined by Rear-Admiril Stopford, the Commodore, and a few transports, having on board a part of his Majesty's 14111 regi ment, half the 78th, the artillery detachr.ents, six. field pieces, and the detachment of pioneers. To ascertain the fact of General Jausens' ire se and fed how tar ',he capture of (koeral melle and the troops from Bugtenzorg mi;giit have. changed his plan, I repeated to him on the toth, in concert with the Admiral, an invitation to sur render the island on terms of capitulation, and Cap tain Elliott and Colonel Agncw were charger[,-with the communication. They saw the General, re ceived his reply, ascertained that he had 'still vvitt) him at least a numerous staff, and that be piolesstd a determination to persevere in the contest. sm•ill force with me did not admit of tny atternplitql, to assault the place„ while it was supposed to be thus occupied ; but an attack was made that_niglit by the boats of the scuachon, on set , etal gun-vessels of the enemy moored across the entrance of the ri vers leading lo the town end : the preiip:tation . with which they were abandoned gave a charaeles of .probabi;Uy to accounts, whieh reached us fruiri fishermen and' others, that the Gentrsl was oc cupied in withdrawing his troops to the interior, and had fortified a position at a shoit distance on tiro road towards Solo or Soeccarta, the residence of the Emperor of Java. '~7:=~ On the 12th of September, as no other . troops had arrived, it was to attack the tui4n a summons was first sent to thy Commandant, and it apreared, that the enemy had (as at Batavia) evacuated the place, leaving it to be surrendcred.hy the Commander of the Burghers. It was that night occupied by a detzchment under Colonel Gibbs, and all the troops I could collect were landed on the fel loWing.day. It was ascertained that the enemy had retired to a strong position about six miles distance on the Soto Road, carrying with him all the Chief, Cittl, as well as Military Officers, of the district, and that he was busied in completing batteries and intrench tuents in a pass of the hills, where he had colleCted the residue of his regular troops, some cannon, and a force, including the auxiliary troops of the native princes, exceeding 800 men, cavalry, infantry, and artillery, commanded by many European Officers of rank. As any check of the attempts of our troops at this important period might have been produCtive of the worst effeds, I (bought it prudent to wait the hourly expeded arrival of a larger, force, but after two days passed at Satnarang without theic appearance, I resolved to risk an attack with the slender means at my disposal, rather than to give the enemy confidence by a longer delay, or . a ft' o rd ilirm time to complete their works, which were said to be still imperfed. For these reasons, on the evening of the 14th, 17 had directed preparations to be made for an attack on the following thy, when intelligence arrived that the Windham bad sailed for Cheribon wit ti some tro'ps, and several vessels were Ken in ,-thcs offing 1, therefore, countermanded the orders, in the expectation of succours, but the Admiral, anxious, on account of the approaching unfavour able season, to secure a sate anchorage for the ships, sliled in the morning, ‘A ith two ships o f th e line and three triples, to attack Fort Louis, and if suc cessful, to occupy the harbour of Sourabaya. . The Windham alone arri - .ed in the course of the night, and tyro the very slender reinforcement which she brought Was, situated as we were, of great importance, an(l it enabled me to withdraw all the European garrison from the fort of Semarang, and io add a company of Sepoys to the field force, w hi c h thus strengthened did not exceed I t oo infcintry„ and the necetsary artillery to man four U-poundes, %WI some pioneers.. •, I d , d not think it proper to assume the dire command of so small a detachment ; I confided it r tty Colonel Gibbs, of his Majesty's 39th regiment, proceeding, however, with the troops, that I might beat hand, to profit by any fortunate repalt of the. attack. Experience bad warranted my reposing the fullest exercise it f so long a period , must have beeti great, while the sum called for was not thought exorbitant for the purpose to which it was to be ap plied, he trusted (he Crrnittee would concur the motion. ,• The question was then put and carried. On the motion of Mr. WHARTON, severat annual : grants were voted. The House resumed, - and the Report of the Ct.mmittee was ordered to be re= ceived to-.norrow. Ida Committee of Ways and Means the wual Re4olutions for continuing the duties on Pensions, Malt, Drawbacks, were proposed and agreed to, and the Report ord,red to be received to-motrow. The Distillery Bill was read a second time, and committed ior to-morrow.—Adjourne(l, MAILS. ARRIVILD-1 Dublin, 2 Waterford. Dug—t Cadiz, r Lis bon, r z Guernsey, 2 jersey, i Waterford. PRICe THIS DAY AT Tw,Lvro'cLocx Consols. - -62 i Red. Ann. -63 k T H-E S U N. ' 6OL6NI QUIS DICER& CALLUM AUDLAr ?