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fi st reqolution, on which the following division took place :-- For the first resolution l4 Against it The previous question was then moved on the se cond resolution,' and the third was negatived. Such being the end of Burdett's case, we wish to Alance at the case of Sir William Williams, Speaker of the House of Commons, in the 32d of Charles the Second. One Thomas Dangerfield, well known in history, gave information of a conspiracy, which he delivered at the bar of the House of Commons. The Speaker signed the paper, and appointed the King's printers (New comb and Hills) to print it. An information was filed against him for ordering the printing and publish ing of the libel. The Speaker pleaded that what he did was by the order of the House of Com mons. To this plea the Attorney-General demurred. The demurrer being allowed by the Court, a plea in bar was pleaded by Mr. Williams, but he finally withdrew it, and judgment went by default. A fine of 10,0001. was imposed by the Court of King's Bench, but James the Second afterwards remitted 2,003/. of it, annexing this singular condition, that nothing should be given to_the courtiers who had been employed to solicit this abatement. This was not the only prosecution that Sir W. Williams was exposed to, for the discharge of his duty as Speaker. Bills were brought into Parliament in 1689, 1690, and 1695, to reverse the judgment against Sir W. Wil liams, but the whole failed. In the expected discus sion on this important subject, it will appear that Lord Denman is supported in his law by Williams's case. The Commons may insist upon the privilege of pub lishing libels, and commit those who commence a process against the Speaker; but then the question will arise, whether the Court of King's Bench must not grant relief if the House were to vote an ac tion perfectly innocent to be a breach of privilege ; and on those grounds to imprison ? On the other hand, it will be a subject of, inquiry, whether a power of control over Parliament is to be exercised by a - Bench of Judges ? "If the Judges (it is said) were to.take cognizance of what either House of Parlia ment have voted to be a contempt, they would imme diately subject themselves to an impeachment for a breach of the law which they are sworn to administer, and for manifest infringement of the Bill of Rights." " It is to a sense of the constant superintendence and centroul (says C. W. Wynn, M.P.), which is not only the right, but the duty of Parliament to exercise over all courts of justice, that the puri:y of those courts is principally to be attributed." Will it now be said that the system of the Constitution is to be reversed,— that Parliament is to be su'ijected to the centroul of Judges appeii!ted by the Crown, and its dignity and freedom to rest upon their decisions? The answer is :—Law-makers should not be law.lreakers. If the Commons or Lords do wrong, they should be amen able to the law they themselves have made ; " Justic . t; does wrong to no man." Adverti.sey. SECOND EDITION. SUN OFFICE, Seven .9' clock. THE r,ONDON GAZETTE THIS EVENING. DGVi'NING-STRE:T, JrvE 2 The King hal b: en plcas?ci to a; point. Itlsjer-General Jo'ioiton tu be a Kn:ght Co.omantier of the Most Honourable Mi littry Order of the Bath. in the room of fits Right Ilotitm:able Sir Richard Hussey Vivian, Bart. WKITi7TIALL, JUNE 5, 1337 Kr; g h been pleased to direct lf,t ii`rs patent to we p ssed miler the Great Seal of the United Kingdurn of Great Britain and cf..tit'irrit,g- :lie honour .;l• tii:otl Simon Eeward, 11 , 1., Chief of th:_, Medical Stafi daring the whole of the Bur fre,:c Comit.:ssion by the Lord Lifttenant of the County of Somerset. Ist Somer , et Regiment of Militia.—C. P. Garrick, jun., to be Lieutenant, 111ay 14. Commission by the Lord Lictitenazt of tlle amuty of Suff,lk. Melford Troop of Ycomanry Cavalry.--. 1. T. Ord, Gent., to be Lieutenant; It. PockEngton, Gent., to be Cornet, May 31. DECLATIATIONZ.; OF INSDLVENCY. ,TOEI. H ART, lineli-draper, great Prseott-st:ett. JOHN' FREER, hosier, SysOn, Leicester. BANKRUPTS.. WILLIAM JAMES COX, hat-mant - facturer, Cis!le-street, Southwark, to surrender June 13, at eleven, and July IS, at half post eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Graham, official as signee, Lisinrrhall-street ; Smith, Bridge-street, Southwark. JAMES PEN SAM, lic.ens•-d'victualler, Fleet-street, June 15, at eleven, and July 18, at twelve, at the Ccnrt of Bilnl:rupicy. J• iics€ a, °falai assignee, Dasingliall-street ; Alarcon and Daclley, Church-row, Nen - ngtor., Surrey. HENRY CASSON BINNEY, tanr.cr, Worksop, Nottingham, Juno 23 arc'. July 18, at eleven, at the Town-hall, Sheffield. Tay lor and • Son, John-street, Bedford-row, London ; Hoyle, Ro therham. STEPHEN PEASNALL, plumber and glazier, Leamington priors, Warwick, June 16 and July 18, at two, at the Lansdowne Hotel, Leamington-priors, Warwick. Co',more, ,Birmingham; Clarke and Medealf, Lincoln's Inn-fields, London. THOMAS GOMM, corn-dealer, Birmingham, June 20, at eleven, and July 18, at one, at Dec's Royal Hotel, Birmingham. Burfoot, Inner Temple, London ; ranks, Birrni! ghat's!. SAMUEL MARSH, manufacturer of earthenware. Burslem, Staffordshire, June 20, ar..l July 18, at twelve, at the George Inn, Burslem. Dyneley, Coverdale, and Lee, Gray's Inn, London; Harding, Burslem. THOMAS CURTIS, sLipping-butcher, Totton-strcet, Step ney, June 15, at one, and July IS, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Green, Aldermanbury, official assignee ; Heath, Charlotte-row, Mansion Her.:c.. 'JOHN RICHARD FISHER, chinatnan, Regent-street, June 16, at half-past cne, and July 13, at one, at the Court of Bank ruptcy. Edwards, Pancras-lane, official assignee ; Harrison, South-square, Gray's Inn. BENJAMIN BRIERLEY and JOHN THRELFALL, mer chahts, Manchester, June 27, and July 18, at two, at the Commis sionc. s' Rooms, Manchester. Johnson, Son, and Weatherall, Tem ple, Len lon ; Hitchcock, Manchester. ROBERT ORAIESHER, wheelwright, Stockport, Chester, June 27, at ten, and July" 18, at two, at the Comralssioners' Rooms, Manchester. J. Coppeck, St. James's, London ; Coppock and Wollam, Stockport. HENRY CURME, cabinet-maker ' Bridport , Dorsetshire, June 15, and July 18, at two, at th e B u ll Inn, Bridport. G. and T. Brace, Surrey-street, Strand, Lo n d on ; Ni c h o l e tt s , Bridport. WILLIAM HOOK, linen-draper, Devonport, June 19, and July 18, at eleven, at Elliott's Royal Hotel, Devonport. - Leach, Little, and Woollcombe, Devonpert ; Makinson and Sanders, Elm court, Temple, London. WILLIAM CURTIS, Jun., corn-factor, Derby, June 20, and July 13, at eleven, at the New Inn, Derby. Forster, Lawrence Pountney-place, London ; Bradshaw, Nottingham. COURSE OF EXCH2 A nisteraant C.F. 12 5 Ditto. at sight ....... ........... 12 3 2U. 12 534 Antwerp—. Ilarn:eurg M.I3. 13 :4;4 Al'ona Paris, 3 days' sigi:t 25 55 Ditto ................3 Nll r.:s Marscifles. Boursteaux Frankfort on Maine, Ex. M 154 Peterslimgh, rub1e......3 Us l3 0 Ber'in Vienna, effective 11 2 .4. 10 10 10 t 0 Mail rid 14 NGE.-/ THIS DAY ) ifibraitar Leghorn 47 Genoa Milan Venice Naples 41 Palermo per oz. 117 L6son 5O • Vow° Rio Janeiro Bahia £6 Buenos Ayres Dublin, 9.1 (lava' sight Cork PRICE OF 11ULLION, PER ()Z. Portugal GUM, coin '0 0 0 Foreign Gold, in %ars 3 17 9 Ncw Dorbloons New 1%.1.1I(rs Silver, bars, standard 0 0 0 Bilboa Barcelona Seville IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT, (THIS EVENING.) HOUSE OF LORDS. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on th 3 Woolsack at Five o'clock. Mr. MILLS, and other Members of the House cf Com mons, brought up the Bristol Encroachments Bill, and several other private Bills. The Bishop of ROCHESTER presented petitions in favour of Church-rates from places in Kent. The Archbishop of YORK presented a petition in fa vour of Church-rates from the Lord Mayor and Council of York. Earl . FITZWILLIAM presented a petition from ~. Morley, in the West Riding of York, praying a repeal of the Corn Laws. The Noble Lord then asked if his Ma jesty's Ministers had any objection to the production of documents which were of great importance at the present nioment,as they would shortly have to legislate upon a cues " tion of the greatest import to the sister kingdom. The papers lie alluded to were such communications either written or oral, if afterwards reduced to writing, as were made to the Commissioner of Poor-laws, Mr. Nicholls, during his visit to Ireland last year. Viscount MELBOURNE said that he readily admitted the importance of the question referred to ; but he supposed that a day or two would not make any material difference,. if the Noble Lord would give notice to that effect. Earl FITZWILLIAM then gave notice, that on Thursday next he would move for these documents. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE gave notice, that on Thursday next he would move the second reading of the Board of Werks (Ireland) Bill. NEW; : lEt,ro-lre motion of Lord DUNCANNON, the Report :.740140 , 14tit1in Police Bill was brought up and received. is ~--, -1- '-:::: LeM'OUNCAN NON then laid on the tablc the Re ,' OfTort of. the Commissioners of Education in Scotland. P r 1 '''' -- --pii' , i•r-• :'On the motion of' Lord SHAFTESBURY the Stock T. - • -,-).,, . )v.4.,,. ;port improvernent . Dlll was read a first time, and the se ,'! e,e - i-al prv..ltel3ills on the table were advanced a stage. PRIVILEGES OF PARLIAMENT. Lord ELLENBOROUGH said that the Noble and Learned Lord opposite had given notice, that on to-day he would make a motion in reference to the resolutions which had been lately adopted in the House of Commons. He (Lord E.), however, would express his expectation that the Noble and Learned Lord would not submit any mo tion of that nature to the consideration of that House under present circumstances without the most mature con sideration of it, as the difficulty of the position in which it might place their Lordships was of no ordinary character, if a question of privilege were introduced without the greatest necessity existed for it. He had stated his conviction of this when the Noble Lord gave notice of his intention, and since then the consideration he had given the subject had strengthened him in his first impression, and he would there fore venture again to press upon the consideration of the Noble and Learned Lord what he had then ventured to state ; and also that in reference to the resolutions adopted by the House of Commons, although their Lordships could take notice of them in the proceedings of that House, yet as they had not been communicated to their Lordships, as there had been no step taken for this purpose, and also as the House of Commons had not yet acted upon them, the time had not yet arrived when it would be proper to make a motion with respect to them.--(Hear, hear.) Ho would . therefore venture to suggest to . the Noble and Learned Lord that he may be induced to re consider his determination.—( Hear, hear.) The Duke of RICHMOND joined with the Noble Lord, in thinking that it would be' better to postponeothe discussion for the present. Lord LYNDHURST thought, as the resolution bad not been communicated to the House, it would be better to delay it. Lord DENMAN said—when the Noble Lord opposite expressed his hope that I would not without the most mature deliberation bring forward so important a question, I assured him that I had given the subject the most serious consideration. The observations he has since made I have given great weight and full importance to. They have all passed in my mind ; but notwithstanding all those considerations, I thought it was the less evil on my part to take some notice of what had passed, than allow matters to go on without noticing it at all. My Lords I ca not very sincerely say that I think it better at present to forego the consideration of a question of such immense importance.—(Cheers, and hear, bear.) Although these resolutions have not been communicated to your Lordships, and although no steps have been taken upon them by the House of Commons, I certainly thought as they were upon the votes which are regularly laid on your Lordships' table, and more particularly as those re solutions are not confined to the assertion of the pri vileges of this House—(Much cheering)—but the privi leges of both Houses, I certainly have been of opinion that the circumstances that have taken place gave a fair and proper opportunity for me to bring the matter be fere your Lordships.—(Cheers.) My Lords, I consider myself as an individual standing in a situation of accusa tion, if not of cenviction.-e-(Cheers..) I find my conduct has been considered rash, in doing that which, as one of the sworn Judges of the land I consider my duty to adopt. —(Cheers.) My conduct has been considered rash for lay ing down the law, as in my conscience I believe it to be.- -(Cheers.) Since that period I have seen no reason what ever to change that opinion. lam ready, my Lords, to lay down that opinion the very moment that I am convinced that itiis incorrect ; but to which I will adhere to the very last moment of my life as long as in my conscience I think it is correct.--(Great cis cring.) I certainly thought that it was my duty to take, the filet opportunity of disclaiming against the charges of acting with rashness and impro priety.—( Hear, hear.) In making those observations, I wish not to become the voluntary censor of so im portant an assembly as the House of Commons ; but a lien I find that there is a growing disposition to admit resolu tions of such a nature, I felt myself bound to bring the subject under the attention of your Lordships.—(Cheers.) It is extremely difficult for me in any way to resist an im pression which I think I perceive to he eencral among your Lordships. I have to thank the Noble Baron opposite for the courtesy with which he °Toed his advice, and I am sure anything that falls from the Noble Doke will always entithel te the utmost respect on my p :rt. I think I see an imarss,:ion among your Lordships that this nietter ought not to be hroveht forward unless there is 'something like a necessity for it. I, however, bog leave to say, that in adopting that advice I do not withdraw the notice of a motion I geive, the partieulars of which are comparatively unimportant ; but - that I reserve to myself at some future period—(Hear, hear),—when • other events may make such proceedings necessary, the right of iringing this matter again before your Lordships.—(Hear, hear.) I should wish to c,:rne some other d,ty to which this notice ruilit be postrlned. I am toll that on Thursday . . it i:, quite impossible to expect that there should be nr.y c.,!!: , ridance here, and I should be sorry not to hive th:s - matter considered by a considerable number of your Lordships. On Friday your Lordships' time will be occu pied by an important matte?. Monday happens to be the last day of Term, and it is well known that Judges on that day cannot attend anywhere \ but in Westminster-hall. I shall, therefore, beg leave that this motion may rernain'on your Lordships' books till Tuesday, reserving to myself the right if I then think proper of calling your Lordships' atten tion to it.—(llear, hear, hear.) Lord AT HERTON presented a petition from Sud bury, praying that small tenements might be rated upon the landlords. BUSINESS OP PARLIAMENT. Lord BROUGHAM, Ivith reference to the Committee which he had moved for I,lst night, begged to say that some of the words had been omitted in the order. The Com mittee appeared to be to enquire into the state of the husi;- ness before the House, and he now moved that the order be discl:arged, for the purpose of having it correctly entered. The motion having been agreed to, the Committee was appointed, and the House adjourned to Thursday. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour. Sir ROBERT BATESON presented petitions from Garcon, the subscribers to which were proprietors of Stock in the Agricultural Bank of Ireland. They were willing to sacr:fice the instalments they Lad already paid, and praying that the Bank might be entirely extinguished. On the motion o! Sir JOHN BECKETT the Leeds Water Works Bill was read a third time and passed. Mr. BROTHERTON moved the second reading of the Dean and Chapter of St. Peter's ( fork) Estate Bill.— Agreed to. Mr. BARNAIID presented a petition in favour of the Collier Dock Bill. - I.lr. C. LUSHINGTON presented four petitions in favour of the Ministerial plan for the abolition of Church- rat .3. Mr. II AWKINS presented a petition with a similar prayer from the Isle of Wight. Mr. S. CRAWFORD presented a petition from the parish of Kilmeena, ccunty Mayo, stating that the peti tioners bad seen with the greatest disappointment the con tinuance' of the tithe system, praying that the House would extinguish tithes in name and reality, and pay due attention to their humble petition. Also a petition from 'several of the governors of the County Loutb Hospital, stating that in their opinion the forcing a connexion between the Medical Charitable Establishments, and the New Poor Law Institutions would be highly detrimental ; that many avail themselves of these institutions—who although unable to pay the expences of surgical relief, ought not to be classed as paupers ; that under the management of the Governors their Hospital has been most beneficially conducted ; that by savings out of the funds—aided by private subscriptionsa building had been, erected at the cost oh 3,0001., without any addition to the public burthens ; they also prayed the House would not make any change that could endanger the well doing of these institutions, or interrupt the present course of private contributions. Mr. WILKS presented a petition from a Wesleyan Congregation, in Leicester, in favour of the abolition of Church-rates ; also one, most numerously and respectably signed, by the inhabitants of the Ward of Cripplegate Without, in the city of London. The petitioners referred to the Report lately prepared by the Corporation Commis iioners, in order to prove the existence of numerous abuses in regard to the privileges enjoyed by many of the Com panies, and praying the House to take that report into their ierious consideration without delay. Mr. Hurr presented a petition, praying for the esta blishment of steam-boats to conduct the trade . to India ; also one, praying that if such a step were taken, the island of Ceylon might be made a depot for the boats employed. Lord S AN DON presented a petition from Great Abing don, Cambrid,geshire, against the abolition of Church-rates. Mr. WALTER presented a petition from the Rev. C. Dewdney, the Rector of Portsea, complaining of the con duct of the Pocr Law Committee, before whom he had been examined as a witness. The Hon. Gentleman moved that it be printed with the votes, and taken into consi deration on Tuesday next. POUR LAW COMMITTEE. Mr. BAINES wished to ask the Hon. Member for Beiksh:re at what time he thought it was probable the Committee on the Poor-laws would terminate its labours. Mr. WALTER said that it was unusual for Hon. Members to ask questions without giving notice to the Hon. Member who was to give an answer. He thought, however, he should be prepared to give the answer re quired that day week.. _ Lord FRANCIS EGERTON presented several peti tions from diErent parts of Lancashise against the Poor-law Bill, in favour of the repeal of the duty cn Soap, against the Ministerial measure for abolishing Clwrc:;-rates, cnd in fa your of the Bili for the better observance ofthe Sabbath.. The Hon. Member rreseuted petitions from Oldham and Man- THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY, JUNE 6, 1837 chester, in favour of the measure for regulating the hours of children working in factories. _ _ Mr. SHAW LEFEVRE presented a petition from Alton in favour of the Miniiterial plan for the abolition of Church-rates. Mr. BAGSHAW presented a petition from Sudbury, praying that the Poor-rates, upon. all houses under 6!. a year, might be paid by the landlord instead of the tenant. Mr. KIORG:AN JOHN O'CONNELL presented a petition from the medical practitioners of Kerry in favour of a well-regulated system of medical charities. Sir JOHN WROTTESLEY presented a petition from a parish in Staffordshire, in favour of Sir Andrew Agnew's Sabbath Bill. BRIDGEWATER ELECTION. The SPEAKER said that he had to acquaint the House that he had received a letter from Mr. Broadwood, the sitting Member for Bridgewater, in which he stated that a petition having been presented by Richard B. Sheridan against his return for the borough of Bridgewater, it was not his intention to d e f en d hi s e l ec ti on or return.—(Cheers from the Ministerial Benches.) Mr. GILLON presented a petition from several Scotch Dissenters against the grant of the regium down's. Also a petition from Auchtermuchty in favour of the Minis terial plan respecting Church-rates. The Hon. Gentleman then presented a petition from the postmasters and coach proprietors of Scotland, complaining of the heavy taxation to which they were subjected. HAND-LOOM WEAVERS. Mr. J. M4X.WELL gave notice, that on the 25th of June he should move that an humble address be presented to his Majesty, praying him to issue a Commission to in quire into the condition of the hand-loom weavers. Mr. WARBURTON presented a petition from the surgeons of Edinburgh, prayinc , for some measure to remedy the evils they at present laboured under. Mr: GREENE moved for a return of the number of petitions upon private Bills presented during the last Session of Parliament. Mr. Sergeant JACKSON presented a petition from Bandon against the Mersey Conservancy Bill ; and a petition from an individual complaining of grievances sus tained by him in the Colonial Office. Col. PARRY presented a petition from a district of the county of Carnarvon, complaining that they were nearly shut out from the justice of the country, and praying either that they might be afforded the means of learning the ' English language, or that the Judges of the Land might be obliged to learn Welsh.—(A laugh.) On the motion of Mr. FORBES, the Duke of Argyle's Estate Bill was read and passed. Sir THOMAS FREMANTLE presented a petition from Sir John Rennie, complaining of the course adopted by the House relative to the Brighton Railway. The petitioner stated that he had been occupied on the subject of railway communication between the metro polis and Brighton since 1825 ; • that he had surveyed the different lines•of communication, and, after mature deli beration, he had come to the determination that the direct fine was the best. He objected to the plan ►•rhich had been adopted by the House, for referring the matter to a military engineer, whom he contended was not so competent to decide upon the question as a civil one. Tee Ntitioner prayed that the Bill for the direct line might be referred back to the Committee, in order to have the clauses settled. On the motion of the Right Hon. Baronet, the petition was ordered to be printed. Major BE AUCLERK presented a petition from a num ber of shareholders in Sir J. Rennie's line, praying the House to point out in what way they couid be reimbursed those expenses which the conduct of the House had plunged them into. He thought the petitioners had just grounds for the complaint they made in their petition, and he regretted exceedingly the course the House had adopted. He must say lie considered it to be highly unjust, after the expense they had already been put to, that the parties should be compelled to go through the ordeal of another Committee. The SPEAKER suggested that the petition was for money, and that the rules of the House regarding money petitions had not been observed. The Hon. and :gallant Member then withdrew the pe tition. DUNDALK WESTERN RAILWAY. On the motion of Mr. S. CRAWFORD, the Report of the Committee un the Dundalk Western Railway was farther considered, and the report ordored to be engrossed. BRIGHTON RAILWAY. Mr. CURTEIS then rose to call the attention of the House to the petition of Mr. James Mill, pre sented on the 25th ultimo, and to move for a Select Committee to inquire into the allegations contained therein, and in the former petition, relative to the conduct of certain parties in respect to Stephenson's line of Brighton Rell - and to the conduct of Government with re spect to that railway. The Hon. Member stated that he was not a supporter of Mr. Mill's line, but that he merely brought this subject forward as an act of justice to that individual. The House would be only doing com mon justice towards Mr. Mill if they granted him the Committee, and thereby gave him the opportunity of sub. stantiati:;g the charges contained in his petition. As to that part of his motion relating to the conduct of Govern ment he was unnilling to bring charges against Gentlemen to \s`hom be had always given his cor di a l support ; but the notice lie had given proceeded from a feeling of what was due to a large body of his constituents. He had received a latter from his constituents, censuring in very strong terms the conduct of his Majesty's Government on a late occasion. He (Mr. Curteis) felt most strongly the usage they had then received, and he believed if the House had been thoroughly in possession of the facts they would not have come to the decision that had been come to on that night. He con sidered that gross injustice had been done to a large portion of his constituents, and he never would sit quiet, and see his constituents ill-used without raising his voice against the injustice. With respect to the conduct of certain Hon. Members on that occasion he should for certain reasons keep his observations to himself.—(Hear, and a laugh.) He would not allow his anger to get the better of his dig cretion.—(Laughter.) But if on some future occasion ample and impartial justice were not done to the Commit tee, and if something was not done to set matters a little more straight with regard to his constituents—(Re newed laughter)—he should be prepared not to mince matters, as he considered he was doing now—(Renewed !aughter)—but he would come 'forward and give full vent to the feelings he now entertained. He would say nothing more, but that the decision which bad been come to had caused just and deep offence to the whole of his constituency, and in the town of - Brighton the greatest excitement prevailed on the subject. He should feel it his duty to take the sense of the House upon the motion for referring back the Report to the Committee on a future occasion, and he should now content him self by moving for the appointment of a Select Com mittee to inquire into the allegations in Mr. Mill's peti tion, and to report the same to the House. Captain PECHELL participated in the feelings of the Hon. MeMber who had just sat down with respect to the conduct of Government, but he could not believe that they intended to identify themselves with the party who at tempted to. delay the measure. If he thought so he should not hesitate to withdraw that support he had so strenuously and cordially given to the present Government ; but he believed that they bad been led astray by the President of the Board of Trade. He heard an Honourable Member below him smile.—(Much laughter.) Delay had been the object of the party to whom the Government had unfortunately given their. support.—(Hear.) It had been said that this was a novel case, but he believed that it was also most novel to see the Members of a Government voting against the reception of a Report agreed to in a Committee by a large majority. The Hon. Member for Chichester ( Lord Lennox) had been very severe on the conduct of the Hon. Member for Hrythe, for giving his vote 48 hours after his election ; but he forgot to state that the Noble Lord had been canvassed by the very party which the No ble Lord (A. Lennox) supported ; and so eager were they for the vote, that they had an Express down at Hythe as soon as the writ. That Noble Lord also had little to say on the matter ; for out of 28 days which the Com mittee sat he was present only four days.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. C. BARCLAY opposed the motion of the Hon. Member for Sussex. It would be highly inexpedient for the House to appoint a Committee, for it could l ea d to no result, and he did not for a moment suppose that the Hon. Member would divide upon the question. The charge against the Ministry he considered to be totally unfounded, the course they had taken was one which they had a per fect right to do as Members of Parliament, and be thought it was an expedient one. He wished the House to understand that Sir John Rennie had never once appeared in the witness box in support of the line which went by his name. Another person was put for ward, and it was he who petitioned against the appointment of a Government engineer. Mr. WIGNEY thought the Government would have done well in this case had they appointed an engineer in the first outset of the business ; but now when all .parties had spent so much money, he thought it would have better become them to have withheld their support ft om any party. After a few words from Sir H. VERNEY, Mr. CURTEIS said as he saw the re ling of the House was against him he si ould not give it the troable of di 'riding.—(Hear, hear.) The motion was then withdrawn. Mr. HUME then rose to move that all the documents and surveys relating to Mills's line of railway to Brighton be referred to the engineer, who should be directed to re port upon it in the same manner as on the other lines. Ha said the conduct of the Government on this occasion had been very inconsistent, for on a motion made by Sir H. Verney for a Royal Commission to examine and report upon all Railroads before the Bill was introduced, they then said all Bills ought to be left to the decision of a Committee of that House. It was said to be the cloject in appointing an engineer officer, that the country should have the opportunity of having the best line ; if so, then they were bound to vote-for his motion, as it would give him an opportunity of determining upon more lines, and of course give him a greater variety. Mr. - G IL LO Nseconded the amendment. Before he sat down he begged to ask the Right Hon. the President of the Board of Trade, whether he intended to take up the subject of the private business of the House, and either by Committee or Bill to rectify and purify the system upon which private Bills were conducted through the House ? And he further begged to know whether he intended to revise the tolls upon railways at any future time? Mr. P. THOMPSON, in reply to the two questions put by the Hon. Member, should say, with regard to the first, that his Noble Friend the Secretary for the Home Department intended to move, =on Thursday next, for a Select Committee to inquire into the mode in which the business of the House was conducted generally, and that, he believed, would embrace the subject of private Com mittees and private business. It was much easier to find fault with the present system than to propose an efficient remedy. He (Mr. P. Thomson) admitted the evil of the present system, but he confined himself to propose an efficient remedy. With respect to the second question, he must say that when the subject was brought forward by the Hon. Member for Ipswich last year had met very general disapproval—(Hear, hear, hear)—and he had no intention of bringing in any Bill upon the subject during the present Session. With regard to the question now under discussion, he must say that it would be be abrogating the Standing Orders of the House altogether if the pr: sent line was to stand in the same position as the others, inasmuch as it had been already rejected by the Committee for noncompliance with the Standing Orders. He had never stated that the House was to be bound by the decision of the Committee. On the contrary, he had stated that that would be against the decision came to in 1835. He would appeal to the House whether Government had not done all it could to draw the subject to their attention, and if they had failed in doing so it was the fault of the House, which had shown itself so little disposed to pay attention to the subject.—( Hear, hear.) All the in formation he had received upon the subject was from the documents laid on the table of the House by the Committee. He had read the report most carefully, but be could not find sufficient evidence of a satisfactory nature to enable him to make up his mind. He was satisfied with what he had done as a member of the Government, for the appoint ment of an engineer was the only means by which the county would get the best line, which was the object of all parties. Mr. CURTEIS contended that the President of the Board of Trade was inconsistent, for he had first spoken against the appointment of a Government engineer, and after the labours of the Committee, he advocated the appointment in a particular instance. t He was that morning informed by a civil engineer, that a military engineeer could not form an opinion upon the capability of a Line of Railway.—(A laugh.) Si: G. STRICKLAND rose, and was left speaking. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, Jef,vß 5. -•- Lard BROUGHAM sail,in continuation from our Second Edition— If he were asked to attend a Committee to support a par ticular measure he knew what answer he should give. He represented no one ; but if he were a Member of the House of Commons, with a constituency, they might have a right to ask. It was true that the better doctrine was, that a Member represented in the House of Commons not the body of the constituents by whom he was returned, but the country at large.—( Hear, hear.) That doctrine, however, ought to be received with an allowance. A man might re present the country at large, as fir as concerned the public weal ; but, to a certain degree, he was deputed by his con stituents to represent their local interests, and he was, therefore, bound by his connection to attend to those in terests. He found printed upon the proceedings of the House of Commons an account of the attendance of the Members upon the different. Committees. Amongst the standing orders of that House was one which made it imperative to give a return of the attendance and votes of each Member upon Committee. Now lie found in this in stance, and it was the first to which he had happened to direct his attention, that the number who attended upon the first day was 48, then 44, then 40, then 42, then 40, 38, 30, and 44, during the first six days of the Committee. He was now supposing that each Member named or attended had attended the Committee the whole day ; but it was barely possible that only five or six really attended out of the 40 whose names appeared. On the 7th day the Committee did not rest, for the number suddenly rose from 40 to 71, by the influx of about 30 other Members. But the riddle was soon solved, for on that day a division took place, and out of the 71 about 65 came to a division.- Se, 42 having attended the hearing, 65 were found coming to a decision, and out of that number he found at least six who had not attended on any of the five former days. Some of them had not even attended on the sixth day, and dila had come down to the Committee for the first time to vote. But there was another case still more remarkable. A Committee sat 14 days ; on the 11th and three subse quent days there wore six divisions, and three of those divi sioue were decided by the casting vote, and the other three by a majority of one. The first ten days there was no di vision. On the first day 17 Members attended, then 13, then 17, then 18, then 10, and then 7. The number then j began to rise, first to 16, then 17, 24, 2G. It then rose ra pidly up to 28, and on the next day a division took place. The number present was 29, seven being rittendances for the first time. Now those gentlemen bad heard none of the very able and learned, and no doubt long, arguments of counsel, nor the evidence ; and yet in the report they make a calculation which gave 513 and seven-eighths of a passenger.—(Hear, hear, and laughter.) There was the case of another Committee, to which he should refer. A. Committee sat for fifty-five days last Session, and thirty-five this Session. The attendance of Members was at first 20, 24, 14, 10, then jumping up to 26, and on the 28th day to 53. On that day they came to a division, and 46 divided, but then, as if exhausted with the effort, they tumbled down from 53 to 27. The number then rose to 43, and on that day there were three divisions, on which Members voted who had never attended before. This was done openly; notoriously, and avowedly. It was a part of the system. The system had been long established, the practice was inveterate, and it was the system itself and the practice of which he complained. The same thing had been done in that House without, perhaps, the same excuse. This matter was brought before the House by a Noble Baron not now in his place, and upon that occasion it was stated that several Noble Lords had voted who had never attended the Committee before they came down to vote. These Noble Lords said that they had read the evidence. No doubt they had, but there certainly was a great differ ence between merely reading the evidence, and hearing it, and assisting at the investigation. He would venture to say, without making an exception of that body of men who were supposed to derive benefit from the system—he meant the profession to which he had the honour to belong —that the whole country, from one end t o the other, with out the shadow of a shade of difference of opinion, with one voice, and that would soon be a loud voice, joined in reprehending and condemning the system, and in loudly and strongly calling for a change.—(Hear, hear.) What he now wished to do was to press upon the attention of the House the propriety of taking some steps, with the view of discovering whether it was possible to apply a remedy. By one it was proposed that the period for the transaction of private business should be confined to narrower limits. He knew that there were certain interests for whose advantage it was that the private business should be spread over five or six months ; but his belief was that a very great improve ment would be effected by confining the private business to a specific portion of the session, say six weeks. But this would be coupled with an arrangement to which the House would be exceedingly averse, namely, a compulsory atten dance on the private business, as there now was a com pulsory attendance upon an election Committee. Parlia ment might then meet, not in February, but in Novem ber, and he did not see why they should not sit in the day instead of sitting towards the evening. This might be considered a mere speculation, a visionary plan ; but he was sure that it was one which would lay the axe at the root of the present evil system. Another plan sug gested was, to send a Commission into the country, to re port on the matter of fact in the manner of a special ver diet, and thus to save the expense and delay of the most operose part of the proceedings in the Committee. By this proposition the House was to be precluded by the Commission ; but to prevent any objection on this head, ha would suggest that the Conunission should consist of a small limited number, say eleven, nine, or seven ; that no votes should be given in the absence of one Member, and that ,no Member should vote who had not heard the whole evidence. Another evil complained of under the present system, was a want of uniformity in the decisions of the Committees. This was a very great evil, no doubt, and on this point he could not help adverting to a measure framed by a Noble Lord about two years ago. The whole matter was referred to a Committee, and the Bill was set up from the other House, but was returned, the Bill being rather postponed than rejected on the merits. The plan was one of the greatest innovations, in affecting the ques tion of the privileges of Parliament, ever p ro pounded. It jury, to to appoint a tribunal, consisting of a judge and a to be selected from both 'louses of Parliament—seven Mem bers from the House of Commons, and five from the House of Lords. They were to act under the direction and with the assistance of one of the Judges, not being 4 Meril ber of either Houee, with an appeal to the other Judges, end they were to find, as it were, a special verdict, upon the facts of the case ; that verdict to preclude Parliament from inquiring into the circumstances. The advantage of this would be, that it would prevent the necessity of two pro ceedings, and would remedy much of the delay and vexa tion now complained of with respect to private Bills. Their Lordships then had sanctioned so great a departure from the ordinary practice in such matters as to be of opi nion that the calling into motion of legal assistance was not inconsistent with the strict privileges of Parliament, and for that purpose he had referred to the Bill in question ; but, secondly, he had cited it for the purpose of inducing their Lordships to believe that some such plan, with appropriate modifications, would be applicable to the evil which now existed with regard to private Bills. Various other plans had been suggested—one proposition had been made with a view to withdraw those matters from the jurisdiction of Parliament, and to send them elsewhere. He would not now make any lengthened observations on that pro position. There were, undoubtedly, many objections to it ; it, was only to be thought of as a last resource ; and he would fain think that the mischief, great as it was, and difficult to be cured, was nor so wholly re mediless by other means within the ordinary powers of Parliament as to drive them to that other expedient of parting with their jurisdiction altogether, as they had already done in one case—that of the Bill for the exten sion of patents—a measure which had worked with unpre cedented success, both as regarded the satisfactory nature of the jurisdiction, and the saving of expense to the parties. Upon the whole, then, it appeared to him not only advisa ble, but the imperative dety of that Holm of Parliament s=pecially, as soon ee those things, the evils of which must be admitted, against which every one was crying out, and a remedy for which every one was demanding, had been once brought to the attention of that House (and the other House he had no doubt would join with them) as a matter of course, not to put them aside, either from the hopeless ness of discovering a cure, or from the idea that other things of greater importance required their attention. He knew not what they were, or on the ground that, in consequence of other business, they had not time fur this subject. That was the last excuse which they could make. If they should be pleased to grant the Committee which he asked, he could not take upon himself to say that much evidence could bs. produced of facts not already well known. However, there were some particulars which would be advanced. If, how ever, in fully considering the case, and examining the propositions which might be made in that Committee, due diligence be employed, he would venture to say that he en tertained very sanguine expectations that some plan would be devised which might form an entire and complete cure of the evils which he had suggested, and at all events that they would be enabled to see their way to something which might eventually lead to their removal. He had been in duced to bring the matter forward by a consideration of the general state of the business, and especially his atten tion had been called by circumstances in which he had him self been placed. On the first night of the session be had placed on their Lordships' table four Bills, three of which he certainly had hoped that his Majesty's Government would have taken up ; they had, however, been suffered to drop. The Noble Lord concluded by moving—" That a select Committee be appointed to inquire and consider of the state of the business before this House of Parliament." Lord MELBOURNE felt, and lie was sure the House and the country would feel themselves under great obliga tions to his Noble and Learned Friend for having brought forward a motion of such great importance, and also for the manner in which he had performed that task. He thought certainly that his Noble Friend had stated sufficient to justify their Lordships in acceding to the motion. He had stated enough to call on that House to institute an in quiry into the matters which had been so ably, so clearly, so distinctly opened by his Noble and Learned Friend ; but at the same time he wished to guard himself from ac quiescing in all that he had stated, and from concurring with him as to the magnitude of the evil and assenting to the pro position that that evil was of such magnitude and such import ance as that it necessarily and imperatively called for revi sion, change, and alteration in the manner of proceeding in their Lordships' House. He agreed in the propriety of in quiry whether any de'Sects existed, and applying any re medy that might be required ; but he did not believe that the es it had proceeded to so crying an extent as to render it necessary, in justice to the subjects of this coun try, that some remedy should be applied. He would now beg, with very great submission, to admonish their Lord ships that, in entering upon subjects of this nature, con nected with the privileges of Parliament, they were med dling with subjects of the last importance—of no less importance than those strong, great, and sweeping measures which it was now the fashion to call organic changes of the Constitution. To change and to tamper with the privileges of Parliament was of little less importance than to interfere with the Constitution of Parliament itself ; it was of little less importance (Lao that measure whit'„ had introduced extensive alterations in the Constitution of the Reuse of Cumulous, or any uth'er measure for re vising and altering other bodies of the State. He had heard many persons of very great ability and experience corainend the proceedings of Parliament ; but he particu larly alluded to Sir Samuel Romilly, who was not certainly very much disposed to applaud the Constitution and laws of England, but who always gave his most unqualified appro bation to the forms of proceeding in this and the other House of Parliament. He (Lord Melbourne) had heard him say that, having been a witness of the violence and ex cesses of the French Revolution, he was convinced that had their Upper Chamber been so well devised to check violence, so well devised for producing moderation and reflection, as was the House of Peers in England, that circumstance would have gone far to prevent the evils that arose at that period. He could not, therefore, approach the consideration of these matters without a considerable degree of apprehension, and without reflecting on the im portance which was attached to them. His Noble and Learned Friend had not very much relied on a topic which had given rise to a good deal of observation—which related to the late period of the Session at which Bills passed the other House of Parliament, and were sent up for the consideration of their Lord-hips. That was a very general subject of observation, and his Noble Friend op posite had made a complaint in reference to it in the Ses sion of 1834. He, however, was more patient, and had waited till the 7th of July—(A laugh)—but the present motion was before their Lordships on the 7th of June. With respect to this part of the subject, he must say that as to the measures that were sent up to their Lordships, if they had a mind to get rid of them, if it suited the majority to exercise that suspensive veto, to which some reformers of the present day were disposed to confine the powers of that House, it required little time to carry those wishes into ef fect ; but if any considerable part of their Lordships thought that the questions were of a nature that it would be better to settle, if upon the whole the party should think that they might as well pass the measures, he had never found that the complication of those Bilis, their length, or their difficul ties, stood much in their Lordships' way ; he had always seen that the House found time enough to pass the Bills ; and he would refer the Noble Duke to the end of the Ses sion of 1833, when the Bank Charter Bill, the Emancipation Bill, and the East India Company's Charter Bill, were passed—measures of such great importance, that the contem plation of them makes one's head turn. He believed those measures had been very much considered ; they had certainly been attended with a success which nobody expected—he was sure he did not.—(A laugh.) He did not, then, see much in that difficulty, which had been raised, because the real fact was, that much time and leisure did not lead to industry, at tention, and thought, but was, on the contrary, calculated to produce neglect, inattention, and delay.—(Hear.) He found it so with regard to himself, and saw it in the conduct of others. That which brought them really to consider mea sures was the existence of a necessity which called upon them to make some speedy provision ; and, in fact, the more time they had the more they required. What was the reason they had dawdled so long a time about the two Bills which had been sent up to them ? Why, because they had nothing else to do.—(Laughter.) The fact was, the less they had to do the less they did. It sounded very well to talk about time for consideration and reflection, but their Lordships knew very well that it was a necessity for expedition that urged them to the reel and serious consi deration of a measure. His Noble Friend had made some observations on the mode of transacting private business, and it was probably liable to many of his objections ; but he doubted much whether to relieve the House from the private business would at all expedite the public business of Parliament. There was a sort of division of labour in that respect, for in neither House did the same Members generally attend both to public and private business ; although, if they did, the private business was calculated to fit them for the discharge of the public business with which Parliament might be engaged. He was very anxious to have the subject seriously considered, but, at the same time, he must again express his doubt whether that inquiry would lead to the result expected. In very many of the suggestions of his Noble and Learned Friend lie could not concur : with regard to limiting the attention of the House to private Bills during the early part of the Session that was a ques tion touching the constitutional privileges of Parliament, which ho thought inexpedient. The early business of Par liament was frequently of very great importance ; there was already some limitation respecting the time of present ing petitions upon Private Bills ; and if they drew the line tighter, he believed they would speedily be obliged to relax it. He was unable then to go into all the details which his Noble Friend had adverted to ; there was sufficient to justify the inquiry, but he wished to guard himself from ad mitting that the evil was so pressing as to render any re i medy necessary, or from being supposed to anticipate that much good could result from the motion. Lord BROUGHAM, in explanation, had not said that one sort of business ought to exclude another. His object was that all the business of Parliament sholid receive his :ttention. He agreed with the Noble Viceivat, they had little to do they dawdled over it ; but it did""t therefore follow that that which they did in haste was done in the most satisfactory manner. He would remind the Noble Viscount also, with respect to the late period of the Session at which important measures generally reached that House, that that circumstance afforded those who were adverse to the measures of Government the best possible reason for postponing them until another Session , The Duke of WELLINGTON had seen great im provement in the conduct of private business within the last five or six years ; resolutions had been formed by moll Noble Lords, founded upon their own feelings and opinions' not to interfere with any Bills in which they had any pri vate interest. He would not, however, pretend to say that much might not still be done ; but he believed that that improvement must depend on the feelings of Noble Lords themselves. It did not appear to him that anY measure was likely to result from this Committee ; but he did not desire to oppose himself to anything which the tha Noble and Learned Lord might think desirable in respect. The Duke of RICHMOND agreed with the Noble Duke that the private business was better manag ed than it used to be. Still there was much to be remedi ed ; and if the present motion had only been confined to that p art of the subject, it would have received his most cordial sap"port. It frequently happened that many Peers wen t down to the Committee punctually, stayed during the whole of the, proceedings, and heard the who! nc of the evidee, an,n the opening and sunning up of the Learned .Counsel, otbe.:7 went down on the last day, were on' tente,l w , th reading over the evidence, and hearing the, t summing up.—(Hear.) That was one evil ; and he svoaln say for himself that he could not conscientiously vote upon a private Bill„unless be had been present during the whole or a great part of the proceedings. Again' by reference to the Standing Orders it would be found that an Committees ought to meet at ten, and sit till four o'clock whereas some of them did not meet till two, and the n the Counsel were so clever and technical that the whole of the time was taken up by their arguments, and frequently . ° 4 ° evidence could be heard. respect to public bus ine 'V he would ask, might not the House of Commons coneeue something as regarded money clauses? There were ma e l clauses which were not money clauses, but which, heals° they referred to some rate, precluded that House from l i n; terfering with the Bill. Why, he would also ask, el o " there be any jealousy on the part of the House of G ein• mons as to permitting Bills sent up to that House too , on one Session to be commenced there in the next? le agreed cordially in the motion of his Noble and Lon g o Friend, and though it might not be possible to effect,: that he expected, still it was calculated to produce cooelu e. rabic improvements. Lord BROUGHAM said a few words in reply. The motion was then carried. A few Bills were advanced a stage, and their Lordebie adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, Juivz 5. The SPEAKER took the chair at the usual hour. WIGAN GLEBE BILL. Mr. BROTHERTON brought up the Report of the Committee on the Warkworth Harbour Bill ; also the It port of the Committee on Gunning's Estate (s - Glebe) Bill. ff On the motion that it be read a third time, l i e HINDLEY said the object of it was to raise the ill s of the Rector of Wigan from 2,000/. to 4,000/. a-year. M O that parish there was church accommodation for 0n1Y 4 „ , u,; () people, while the population of the parish amounted to 1 8,vy l; This then was a good opportunity for providing further chill() accommodation by the increased value given to the g le t lands by the Bill, and he trusted that the House wool d r a l pass it without the insertion of a clause which be prepared, which would leave the surplus created by this P I to be appropriated as Parliament might direct. The o °l/ ' Gentleman moved that the clause be inserted in the nin• ia Mr. PLUMPTRE without further i n formation, loll , most decidedly oppose the insertion of such a clause i n pril ate Bill. The House was entitled to f u rther inforni te ; tion upon the subject ; for instance the House kneor p e r in whose gift the living was. There were many points upon which the House should have information " fore it agreed to such a clause. Mr. HINDLEY said the li v i ng w as i n the gift of the Earl of Brad:Ord. He was so satisfied that all the for, mation which could be obtained upon the subject would in favour of his proposition, that he bad no hesitationw moving the adjournment of the debate till Thursday n el t ;4 Mr. WILBRAHAM and Mr. KEARSLEY opPe s the clause. Mr. W. PATTEN considered the course taken by tile s Hon. Gentlemen exceedingly unfair. The Hon. Member had cone down prepared for the di scus si on u pon a p riva te Bill, but they had no notice of the propositi on to be red-,8 by the lien. I`,lember. A more fair or libersi Comm 00 hal Lever sat than the one on this Bill, and its deei s ' had been in favour of the Bill. w ith Sir G. STRICKLAND did not mean to quar rel ~t the constitution of the Committee, but he considered _ : t us o in the present state of the Church, and the c ornplei ° ,, t made of great want of Church accommodation, he tlio n g. m r , the House ought not to pass this Bill without fully ing_„ 4 , ul in g whether it was not possible to increase that accons., dation by the means pointed out by the Hon. Member (P e a Ilindley). He thought the proposition of an e dictl . debate a very fair one. h Mr. WILKS said there was in the Bill so In" — hot tertnixture of public principle with private application, t hat it was necessary the House should properly hiltundel what the Bill really was. It was, in hi s opi n ion, eight .r the subject should be distinctly consid e red and Pra e understood. After a few observations from Mr. HINDLE Y sil o Mr. WILSON PATTEN, strangers were order e ' e bst withdraw ; but no division took place, it being a gree the further consideration of the Bill should be postP°.. till Thursday next. B n or On the motion of EXCHEQUER Mr. BARI BILLS NG, IL the L. Exeh e ' Bills Bill was read a third time and passed. CEMETERY BILLS. ,;(01 1 Sir SAMUEL WHALLEY, in presenting a P c ''i n i e% with respect to Cemetery Bills, said that he was an,,, ho t to call the attention of the House to this subject. qv) evening there had been presented t o th e H ouse a 13 01, t° •scd first reading of which the House had agreed, which contint" powers to enable ,the Company to erect burying gt a ijeo' within any distance of the m e t ro poli s no t excee ding ten 1-bpt The petitioners had appeared before the Committee, 40 the Committee would not hear them,,inasmuch as itbeir said the Cemetery was not to be constructed with in 101 parish. However, afterwards, words were put into the be which authorised the Cemetery to be constructed i : 3 fi ero very parish from which that petiti on ca me. The pet it ' ° ibef now prayed the House to recommit the Bill, so that li d might have an opportunity of appearing against i t idid they further prayed the House would pass such St B '' t 00 Orders as would compel C om p an i es t o fix on the aPP.iff which they intended to erect th e ir buildings, and te stis notice to every party interested, that they might ba rirat e ' power of appearing before Parliament to protect their u gh rests, and prevent Bills of this s o rt b e ing smuggled till.° • the House.—(Hear, hear.) bo The SPEAKER thought th e p e tition had h atter referred to the Standing Orders' Committee. Mr. HUME said this matter involved a question ar ty, ther notice should be given to persons possessing 1 0 „r i e. which property might be t a ken by Cemetery Cor 0 P 1 . 1 ;. to Mr. G. F. YOUNG said, that if power were girodee, these Companies to take l an d w ithi n ten miles of b i ci w ithin they should give notice to all pe r sons holding le l ' ten S miles of London. ir SAMUEL WHALLEY then moved that t ile sn: l tion be reibrred to the Standing Orders Conunitteef the gave notice that he should oppose the third reading Bill, which was fixed for Friday next.t b On the motion of the ATTORNEY-GENE pi 'a oar" further consideration of the p e titi o n of Messrs. I'B and Nichols was postponed to Thursday next. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. , to poo' Lord J. RUSSELL said, that finding it-would be ' not ice sible to bring on the motion of which he had g iven r ed i / respecting Church-rates on Thursday, he had ono. , Do ot, would be better to postpone it, and the cou rse he an now to propose was to fix it for Monday followitt to bring on upon Friday the second reading Of woe Tithe Bill. If the Irish Tithe Bill was read ethe coo; time that night, he should then be able to proPes e F r iel ° Noble of t he sideration of the resolution of his the Secretary for Ireland in a Co fore t" the whole House on the Friday following. There an attn ittee, e tion of Church-rates would come on on Monday! f r idai Committee on his Noble Friend's resolutions tb TRY' afterwards OV THE CURRENCY—STATE OF THE C int o C° The Order of the Day for the House b g e ° e ilg onredulade,ot. oaf s mittee on the Poor-laws (Ireland) having Mr. 'F. Arr WOOD rose to move an inn gor ge b , thought the House was like Nero fiddling wn l d b e en u tio , ba burning.—(Hear, hear, bear.) Th e y oa anY 111°11 0 01' bling in all manner of small games for a t be . 5 0 , 6 3 while the general conflagration was ragilhi7 be be 14,10 mercial and manufacturing classes, t u :e rl d: was a state of things which he thougd would be shortly extended to the agra i l l was , be ad a OO The question of Poor-laws for Irelan o f Dela?, bo o very important ; but, in his mind, thee er_" .. ' nt hs w oolvi .,s b o t much more deeply implicated in the arno" o f poor- 1 4 1 3 , the the 1 - onour to propose, than any system been t°l- to could be there established. They was wrong __ d ot! Noble Lord the other night, that it to be ?Tod sider the present state of things N o ble . 1 - 1° tty o°°) with that of the year 1825, but the ins lva Dot had the experience which it Iva !tturreeql