The Sun. — London, England, 1805-04-09 00:00:00

. aotald coml in e 9 n s * ller 11 te question t in the _ wh i rl!: ' ' red to admit t h at of its heari,]gs. ire-,wds pre p ared - in st e t ,. o f t h e conniving at such conduct in a r 4Yd neverthe, , I;avy was Witt j.islifiahle, but thought, ' less, iliaetnuch .soul , ''. depend on the ci rcumstances, die mew . , and the ilanger that had been incurred , II! nia,n•ained that the Cornroission'ers had not timed that the issue had heeti greater than . tle i'll'ke r'quire i l ; a n d h e insisted. tha t frntrt t he ir Rri , ')it it w as ev id ent t I . 6tt they'bellevett that to be the ease . I t was alvs.agreed to b y them, that theard to, money had riot been applieci so as not 'to 7,e red. they; eyi iatisf . ,' any elt•rnlnd or sudden ergerFtency ; ,t an h ro, Intl not even in.,iiidared that any . effea had )"' : P i . t!ticei in the increase of eipince, or the aggra v ation _ t tir lugoietwokn a ii• dditional hurt hens ; nor theyhal . .sttetopted to Charge. that an.y.demand ~of..anyint.itio-. v ithhit had been a single , inome , nt retarded . As 0, •t • , tots app!ieitt ion of the inooey _to private p l ur . e .e ses .w ,- 4 i t , profit, it slid not appear that Lord Melville lO been 44, tre of ii'; - the- ILitoiSriible Gentleman, him'ever, !tad dwelt Much tin 'this circumstance, uo_ 1 "to , ittfit, his ob-ervati 1 . 1-. on the iniriPat; account s t, of the c im' mi , stone t s, by .syllich it appeared _he Ile had n.,t considered . the -- matter in &tit' . I '' 11, G'eliceman'ilad 'said much of the risque that to . deny I Lad Iss, a ineurrel; and he was riot disposed . that if tiled ti ‘s . , 1,,,er lat. I 1 been great, the practice was loss had ' oniestiiithle; but the circumstance tila! ' l ° 1 _ _, n i' 1, bee. , sustained, wawa strong ground ol.prest d m I l t i that no grPat hazard had been incurre . , P and 'Pin, a . tunic favourable Circu mstance at was Oat ' n'. paptlent hak.been deiai .- ei these eifttimstances, as there were many p°int L s . i n n . the matter of the. Report" sli/ hit! required • • , 0,1 the further explaaratiiin e po,clucidationp : 4ll en he sltu'uld state one or two of them, the Howse ~... lip be I,„s,iaded ,r-Th---J,••efijaie.ne"y"of the course ty hail proposed ; and when , the , varietY of the Mit- I was talon tel . of which the Report was c oni l''''"L , , .I. le ins() etinte - rati In, it Would - be'.;altuitted . to fie a .n. di nV of am,' I s iletilber' to' floint Out any error or 1 . Commis itctara"ty o io 1 1 ,, height. tii,c,;ver. The blither; had stated, that various sums had come into . t he ki`iilt of`Nlesirs. COults 'which hail not bee d n procured by draft on the.ltink,ind tile)" had supposed titat these consisted.Of sums for other services su tfit titlis a pplied in thi's way. One million ,11ad b e en a particularly speci fi ed. But that million had ice brniight nitehly Ivan the ' Bank "to- the house of hiltshrs. Courts, by tine of; forms of draft pre-' , ac t by theS t i . me, and the wh9le of it - ha d ile" .4 ''''''d thet et!, in the Course of a few days, to • 'atake'up, Navy,B,h, then due. ` So"that this wis on d e llinuance ~t an error, on which" they had reste d : inaeh i Aild which being capltble Of being thus sasisti,cturtly eaplained, proved the necessity, o f !further invetigatiOn; The awns that had been vest. Eal'-ili'Messrs. Clutis had . been . neither , lodgetl there ( foe fte benefit' of the ' Tree - Surer of ' the Navy' or o th• • Nt ~.'' ''' 4v Y Pay master, . but in the course of bust: 46 4•ttl• i thi s ' - - s al. was another error ' " me pr, , ctit I ;it,,..iiis at iaresent - cif drawing in 1 ,I „ . , t‘ ' S ' f or the thultipliCitY a;iliall piyments, ins te ad . -' d' .“wing Al-the 'small sums in derail. , The Act .411 Parliament dirceed nt" bier . such draft's for s mall aunts, Errst Iti r tifficient stuns to - enable the l'aymaitcrs 1 ' t i , " ' ' l4, to thy, to issue the necessary sums to. .the ").ce,tint.ott., so that 'the halanceS in 'hand 2,0- i Pe , ' ,:" ""t to contravene' the law, but '.lo . be in tii.., "'" enotormity A ith it and n.ecess4ry for the mi- , t • l'itgettient of "rite business of the office. 'l'll2 (I`-""f . I , t 'n , th!fttor, w'ets 'whether incre had been itoth.'" """ was. tie cesSary ; whethe'r al, expence to the,, • Pot►l ' I •• "e "al betm the conse . ntreaice, or an increase of le - sue ? file House was aware that no money was Is;uNi t, th e • Tree,nr,:r of the -Navy, but on nr-, : 'l,t trout. t,..e diff.retA -13O:tads', 'and that conse. l ett "ly the Treasurer Could . have no power 01 10.. liedhing the issue to tom, tr_,e Rt. i-ion. o,nristi.)3P (it, lit'StriheLl mite opt-racism by, wh di the Treastirer ( t j i i :' e Ndvy ,T;tcw rtio',l . 6' trotO the Bank,. and Iroved I ,„ . , nce t hat it is not in Its .p9wer on iiny , occasion,tir ,-.'"" ,that circumstances, to draw for inore'than the accasituts of ,ho difnrent. Board,* reciatire•l, .1.11". e W .' s no von t i th t ,:, 1.,„ .. „, • iii t : eagiln tor the against. I,Li"" asTorentiy arrcrtain, il Ity the. Commissioners. 1 0 441 "he i s tta ant; Ismi-sucli a 1.0- cr, neither was lett' i tt St 1,i10,1,,,Aic.n tor it in fiid. lt w i ts lip , Pltt " nt t" set, I,', ',nit they had. stated L as . to.the fist ; 41 ' 4 , ‘ , 1 , :hi , ''''''' . 4l ilir,rd anott,cr t.eisiOn. for inh'iiiii iii. 6 t he -inquiry be oforo,ed. The 6,la"es . . a 'lie hatids t f the Tay mister were .tor two putl Poses i . d , 1, to the Sub- Ae , ,:,,,,, f r. ,). ,to s d) ... it tan; ilOll.lO Italie the Means of baft•AY -411: a"is!.t.m.rits oittstatiding to a conSider.tble. tit: )" , at t l'r which the parties.' bad .'a right i " "1 . - c.::': "Innediate Tel:hen:. .Thie Litin. Gctit)elnitt) Itt A -. ;, " ha ve no tlifLuitl in admitting that the 1,.., "°i ni1l so far as . iltee assiy-)nments went, i,. - l i '.:'irlY between . the CommiesiaMers ...Ind the, I v. 'hi l • I " • • d stilt the sums in t,t e i i , t tin( it appearc ~ . . , 1,. ditis o the Paymaster and Bon.Accoontaptt,, : l i ' let " : Y ,„ YE ' , 11 4 not exceeded the amount of 1 1 14 e -,,iglitrients. The commissioners had btale(ll ytt t the 1).11.111t:e4 Otlitit tint to exist at . all, at d tiiit brat balances in the hands .of the 'llea. , et in tn. so •,.. , '' 'Yea,t had aimsunted to 40,cic . , :›1. ..n4 '•notiter in 33,300 i. ; this was very tnatcrid to. have tr . - i thin 33. The; Conimitsb.ners had itt 4lT : llet. a v'JY intelligent' dentleman, it . tell.: . .c s ;,"e q the Oakes, as to the number uf da).s iti h w ,•! li , i'll .“ e,,,,111,3:tr ' sle:uld !Live a .sniTly 4xc-•. 'lands, a,„i the ~,s,lt of Isis examination t il i , '. the number at fourteen or fifteen ; the C s otn. , I,Jc:wilts - 'were of ' opini.-ii thems s el yes, that ten ii e";flieje llts so that the number of dap necFssA.• il. in a4v4,,ce was bet mi . een ,en aodfourreen. In t l i ' it t f'e,:"' '"ces . the Coniinisssioneri had . divided i t , t ~ng which Litki Melville had been in office r i i .t- ( wk.? l'eriod', in making time aVet.ig,':, instead of I r „ ! " 1 , 1 g the ; L air rose for the whole ot ale . time cui4ts "ei . h g in. r•fil'e, The first petiqd t h e )" caL i, t h e '., U,) 10 1796, the rest to i 800; .0 that ~, Y had l'irlt , . ' ' shale, I.'i veil iiiit iiverage on toe , Wir, di si . 1( ~, ~ Calcw. 11" V l'i the: separate .periotto. :1!leY 11ver,„ 4 . 1 , e" t,,he baLinces tin 'ific' fi rst period at 4.5 arms-1-1-iV"r nan d tile l ast tit 33, but they h o t taken the • il„: '4 : u/ the gr•ss hitiati‘es without.tlettucting rile ic2nthents„ W.'iscal thi! Coltuni;sioutts had. "a:c(i" 1 in ' e i„ t ::„ . '1 . ; as the number th,t t ,u g . lt to be itovane. rat fist ',.il i'll"'''ter.s. hands, they ealeula . ed it exelti. 1,,411 were tit ' ter ; 'ate!. if the money at the Out. the f, • ere ") Ile cit"tittcte,d, the. balatiees would be ' 4 1:.. 1"It 41 hiettit faveur.tsble period, an ilver,le-o. seventeen day*, end in the latter period ate lveregc of tight days and on .the whole 'period 'the average was but fOurteen or fifteen, five ritil'y mote than the. Commissioners 'had thought he. cessary, and nearly 1 1 ,:e same number that the: Clerk had stated in his examination. Now if it should.turn out that this statemeric was eaten, he could not admit a doubt that it would be sufficient to determine the HOuse and the 'Public to examine more narrowly and minutely into the matter and al. legations of the Report before they would ground upon it either censure or disapprobation, There - were four different errors in the single statement,' and these . proved 'unanswerably the necessity of a fuller investigation. • This could not be prositited in the whole :HOuse, nor with the-SreAuti. in the Chair ; it, could only be followed up with elfeef in a Select Committee. It was. only by adopting-such a' course that they would be enabled to do what was right for the Public, and at the same time fair toftlie individual. As the.Supoiasition of partici. pation on the part of his Lordship-in the profits arising from the use of the public money formed no part of the charge, but was glanced at as matter of. suspicion only, it was wholly unnecessary for him . to advert to it, particularly as that was to be made the ground of further investigation. He had hoped, after the declaration that had been made ,by the Noble Lord in his consmunica... tion to . the •Commissioners laid before the House, which he had stated himself ready to verify with thesanftionof a solemn -oath, that he should have heard no more of suspicion.. *The lion. Gentleman had observed, That the ground upon which the Nu. hie Lord had declined answering, had been well understood ; but the Noble Lcirri, by his letter had, declared, that his refusal to ,answer had arisen solely in consequence of the - way in which Mr. Trotter had kept his accounts, and because he could not possibly kolw whether Mr. Trotter might not have made advances to hint 'Jut of the Public Money. —.—The Hon. Gentleman had adveried to the sum of toomool. paid to Lord Melville's account, - during the whole period that he was in Office, and until the whole of Lord Melville's account with Mr. Troiter should lie made up,- it was impossible to decide upon that (Jet. The House should look, into those accounts:which were loose and difficult, befOre it could pronounce whether any advances fro :n ihe Public Money had been made to his Lordship. If - the Investigation should be proceeded with, he was convinced, that many Sums stated to have beho rid. in the name of Lord Melville, would appear to have been applied to official purposes ; how tat that was the case it was not for him to anticipate then, before the Inquiry should he instituted., The House would determine for itself When the Investigation should take place. Before they could judge whether any Sums of Public Money had been so advanced, they shoUld see the credit account of Lord Melville, they should also. see the different sums peid in by Mr. Trotterfor Lord Melville, on account' of hi, salary as Treasurer of die Navy, as also an account of his unappropriated salary as Keeper Of the Signet in Scotland, and for Dividends in the Funds. Would Gtnilimen tindlir these circumstances give way to surmises P Would they. think it strange that Lord Melville, knowing that he had no Contract with Mr: 'fritter, no participation with, and knowing also the' unfolunate way in which Trotter kept his - accounts, had declined answering until he had ascertained the state of these 'accounts 'f And it it should appear even that 'a few thdusAnds had been by inadvertence so advaticed,could , any, Gentleman sup. pose that that would luve'been any ohjztt to a Noble Loyd in a high and distinguished'Oilice of tru4t and hr' our ? He would flat think it possible for a liberal and enlightened mind, for even common sense, to en. tertain, ouch an opiaion. Ii so, then be contended, than the materials before the Ilitise were insufikient to form a final judgment, and that a further investi. gation was ab,olutely necesiary, and, that such veltigation could not be cunklutled in. the House, but in :sSelett C immittee, which could be managed with wt much delay. With' aiese sentiMents, felt it unnecessary and improper to say more on the subjed. He should therefore ,move, as all Amend. orient, that ( 4 the Tenth Report be referred to a Stied Committee„*? Mr. FOX suggested, the propriety of moving the prevkus question rather than an Amendment, in order toat theprevious Resolutions might be enter. ed on the Jaffnals. , . The CIi,I:\CELLOR of the EXCHEQUER no obj,,:ct ion to the cot rse proposed, as he should thereby obotin the substantiiil objeel of his k.l , ,tion, ind understanding,,however, that if the previous Questiqu should be agreed to, he should'afterwards move for the appointment . of a Seidl Committee ; he then moved the previous,QUestion. 'On the Question being put, Lard HENRY P E T TY,at the same time that. he . • • aCkn4Wietigr was imposithlo for him to folloW the Right Hon. Gmtlettsan "through the vast range he hail taken in his view of the subjea under discos. sion, was anxious to stare the ground on which lie supported the original Motion. He had never felt greater .surprise than when he heard die Riglt Hon. Gentleman allcdge that -his Hon. Fitend (LW, WIIIifittEAD) 114 d travelled out of the record of the lao.ts in'the statement which he had 'laid before the House: This must be~ matter of surprise to the Hothe also, when the whole of his Hon.'Ftiend's Charges,: except the concluding ones, were merely matter OlJact, and nothing but matter of fan, • In truth the whole• of what had 'fallen from his Hon. Fiiend, -was, either mattes , ,'f fact,,or plain and mi. mediitte de:ln-Won froth . W. The Right Hon.-Geo tletrian urged', with a view . to induce the Howe to agree .to the appointment of a &lett Corn:mace to jnquire into ,thus siijtCt,that the attempt was made rn Irg" , tice the passions of the House, and that the subket involved a great deal of complicated details cif figures. In considering this latter point, it was necessary the Noose should recoiled, , that sits CJII. ' iliiioll that existed in chi., way arose from toe regular unit tier in which Lord ,Melville ,and hi, Pay. master kepi their Accounts. It %VAS uI)V - i , ws, ilctw ever, from the plain matter of fad. Ow' there "a been a violation of the Mt of Parliament. Tbe Right Honourable Grotteinan opposiie to a charge allaying ()flitted tazts in his st•itement• He had omitred 'thr very material fact that Lird Mel= vitli liad allowed; he had violted the Act 44 Pallta. • ITICOI, Paymaster Oil W,104.1114N large surds froM the Bank of „ were anually wanted, and to keep them at his Private Banker's; One part of the ground for pro posing' a' Seit'a Committee was, that part of the, teoiney, voted for Navy Serricia hail been applied to other Public . Services, and the other: ground was the existence of complicated details of figtireso--- Was this direet'violation of the law included in either of these deSeriptioas? He had no olikeliOn to a Se:lea Committee in the prooer time. On 'the contrary he. should be disposed to support the ap. pnintment of such a ComMittee, when the Motion of his Hon. FriendOshould be agreed to, and the House should have come to a determination on the plain and obvions faA. Then a Cormnittee would be proper to consider of the expediency, anti the uwaos at pushing the Inquiry further fend he should be happy to con tribute his small share to the institution of a Coto. mittee for sr; laudable an objet. But first let the House consider what was before it, and let it con. sides that what Lord Melville admitted in otte place he could not deny in another ; that he could not deny before a Cotnrnittee of the, House what he had avowed before .the Commissioners of 'equity ; and let Gentlemen then ask themselves what ne. eessity there was for delay. The House could at once pronounce on the breach of the Aft of Par.. 'lament, and then it may examine more minutely in a Committee' the circumstances of the tranSanien, and the precise amount of the criminality. The Right Hon. Gentleman argued that the Public sti. tallied no loss by these transafliens, at the same time that he allowed this did not'excuse the delinquency though it extenuated the Offence: He did northink it was any extenuatton. He thought there was not only risk to the Public, but positive loss. He 41s. anguished between positive loss and precise loss, for though the precise emounteould not ,he ascertained, the fact that there was j loss was beyond all question. The Right Hon. Gentleman had gone into great de. • tail to ghee,' that the Paymaster did nut draw the money from the Exchequer before it was wanted.--- : But in this statetnot the Right lion." Gentleman reduced himself to the following dilemma t--He stated that the; money was not renotved from the Exchequer bc.hre it was wanted . fir Navy Services, at the same time he allowed large sums were given in accommodation freM the Navy to other branches of the Public Seivice, How was it possible, this, accomModationetiuld he unless , larger sums . were kept in the Paftuaster's than Were, wanted in Navy Services, exoept indeed the Navy Service was distressed and defrauded to allow the adirance; If the money were once ailewed to be drawn, is, may be allowed to priv,,te AS well as to public purpo , es, and it the dour were orca,o, , cned, 4 was imrssible to set limits 'to the abuse. it may let in. The speculations of Mr. Trotter had not failed; but that was no excuse for putting the Ptib. lic Money to so unfavourable a risk. The success may besides be accAmted ftir in another manner, by means of the connexion ors combination ohat existed between the three individuals concerned. . Mr. Mark Sprott toucoed the Funds, and Lord Melville 'the Secrets of State, and Mr. Trotter touched both these persons. Miilioes w e r e thou m a naged in that nice and delicate machine, the Public Funds, and, though, at that time, combinations of another nature were Much talked of, no Jacobin conspiracy that dire exist, or r wild have existed, was calculated to do more than this conspiracy between 'these three persons. The Noble Lerd had represent. ed, that when the Ciimenittee of toB, in prosecuting its inquiries, as t o t h s 'Astroitlietration of the Public Offices, came to that of the Treasurer of the Navy, L. Nilelville being called upon by the Com. mittee, represented the regulations for bringing up tire Arrear in, that Office, and preventing arty future arteer, as in full efi`ca. This 'statemtnt ,was op. posite to the i;,i, .for at this very time the Ac. eountant's branch,' which had been Instituted with a v iew-to this objett, having come up to that period when it was to take cognizance of toid Mel. vale's qwn Administration, stopped suddenly short, An d it s tabours were no more heard of. The ac.. count of 'Lord Melville's first Treasurership was not made out till last year, and the remaining part of the Account at the time the Noble Lord was in Office was still. unprepared. The' reason given fir this was, that the Clerks employed. in this duty, being bl,rrowed &UM another Department, and. being withdrawn, the business could not proceed. —lt was evident frum what Lard Melville had Stated to the Committee, that the benefits of the Ads then lately Made,were carrying into full 'feel. This was, however, very remote from the fall. The Aa of Parliament went•to provide, thet the .Public Monty was to be kept in the Bank, and that no Pub. lic Office was to be mallet; a Public Treasury ; anti yet Lord Melville, had, to all intents and put.. poses, made his Office a Public Treasury. He dwelt on the syitematic deviation from the law that had so many yeats prevailed in that Office, and asked, whether this was a case from which the House would turn away, referring the ,matter to a Stied Committee, without coming to a vote. As to, whe. ther the 'proMinent AI. was right or erotig, or whether the Noble L ru was lit still to hold a high and confideittial situation in. the Government, there was no difference between the situation in which tlie Noble Lord stood with . res Pea to the House and the. Country, and ilia which any man may with his private Agent. For instaocte, if Mr., Mark Sprott kept his Accounts in su4t a connoted way as Mr. Trotter tool Lord Melville did, neither Mr. Trotter nor Lord, Melville would. employ . him as titeir Broker. The Treililltet of the Navy was the Broker of the -Petiole of Eagland anti if be kept his Accounts so ill, was the People still to cm. 1 ,1;,y him? I D, alicr all the investigation that had . been bestowed on this. m titer, and all the time for further . explaoation ; after deli . , and all that had been: said oh L'ntl Meivilla's contlua by friendsnnd enquks, irtl:ose could be called enemies to Lord 2tlelvikle w 1 . ,) only sought to 'wish the rllr .t 1 tranisaiont piftVilieh been gusty; if after all this, there Wits ahr dillizulry of distinguish. ► in 'whether or not he had violated the AitofPer. liament, 1;e would however h;:i,tclined to five ere. die to. the etarges voted in a Selett Committee, in . the possibi.lity of the rtabikhotrot of .the , Noble Lmtl's innocirttie. - .Pat how w,is it roisihle to be . Itive tits Lovi itotocent;witeta e n hI9 grea"' est fri.-_:;ti Oot oot ve: , tore to say lie was iilet.Welrt ; 1,91,1 did gig OrCr 4"7 t t l );ri'g, to thit cfr ct, fie tecollpassageed a passage in o s ne, of the greatest Orators of aoilquity, which op l , plied here : —Cicero aglinit MO asked, who %vcis wore guilty than he who offered no defence Yor to elamssattent Pisa ird "'vie J. sells scriber," auss,r is rempsiblicam a to isme geitam, neque present dicere. If the Noble Lord ou the passing Of his A fur restraining this very evif f , had been 1(,1,i, that not a year would pass when it Mould be violated by a Treasurer of the Navy; and that that Treasurer of the. Navy would be himself, what Would be have said.?:—But if tit* prophecy had been carried further, and it had been said, thar not why would the vi.lation be made by Treasurer of thi Navy, but that after the vio. lation had been for 1¢ years, unnoticed till disco. veml by a Commission of Inquiry, and when at length the detediOn of it lay recorded on the Table of the House, the House would be so cults*. ble that it would be glad of getting rid of it by any means tatlier than pronounce upon it as it ongbr.-- , hatl- toJ gond an opinion of hose of whom the Clothe - . was COmimseil, - to think this business woUlti be su passed over. Ir would indeed be fortunar, if abuses were never &tenet!, rather than that it should appear that when Ministers violated the most express and immediAte laws for preventing abuses in their Depart . Ments; that when the diligence of 'the Commissioners had brought forward this de.. linquency,' Parliament hhQulcrcome in betwei% the . law and its violater, and screen the delinquent from jtistice. This„Was the worst precedent that could be established in any Country, when the guilt wni. dear, anayetescaped punishment. He trusted the event would' be different. It was for the safety, honour, and dignity of Coe . e...4.lfHtt , ry„ that a prompt declaration be made on this subject. He, there.. fore, voted, in the first insrlince, i , r the Alt)tion of his Finn.. Trend, with the insew ion 'that aster the primary lesolution should be agreed to, inquiry should be itystitweci, and vigor .ugly' pursues!. [The. tloble • i.nrd's Speecti excited a buz of admiration throughout the House, wllich continued tor some Me AT RAs EY GENERAL *A id ,it it a necessary alternative that the supposed delntr.,ncy should be punished now, or that 'it should escape altogether, the propriety of coming to some tesolu. l io n , at the present moment, tnAy he mare reason.. ably insiqed upon. He doubted whether the Ntit , le Lord wr,uld u on'reflit(tion, think it tight to proceed to judgment, it built the fullest investigation of the He asked, whether it was not esientikin a m 3 rerfAVeStit:ll like this, th,tt the iiarticulari be stated 7 tlistiOtly ? whether this was a sase . upon which the H•wse 'could be called upon to pronounce, in the state of perfai ignorance in which it ktoodj'and whether any man would not feel 'More ,sasitfi;•d.in doing justice to great Public Officer in a fair and deliberate ,way. The N. , ble Lord had argued it was enough that one of the atti was corm-0y tv the ACt of Parliament, to decide upon that al;' fiat which was the most convenient and dignified cour,e, to take the opinion of the House on the separate point upon iov-stigation, or upon the whole after due inquiry. This was particularly neeess4ry, as the Hon. Gentlemen not confine their obserea. .tioos to any otie . pOint i but wished that ail they said , should have a general circa. What inconvenience could result frum an Inquiry which would embrace the.,4ubje4t, and what mischie(would arise 110111 the propriety .tif a Censure being considered thi s d a y rather than this day sennight. If there were any who thought this promptitude requisite, they. would vote accordingly ; but the Hou,e at large would consider whether there would nut be more weight and charatter in the more deliberate course. It was agreed , on all bands that inquiry shO u ld take plate. The Noble Lord wished a separate decision on one point. Was any point so insulated is not ,to be,still connected with the whole ? While there were such important grounds of inquiry the House should not be called upon to pronounce judgment when cooviflion was so remote, at the same time that further inquiry could have no ill effe& Mr. 771E1i f EY complimented his Noble Friend. It was a MAI tets Of 'pride to any man to be allowed to call himself tke friend of such rising talents and e l o quence. He agreed with him that nothing was mote it than to appoint a Committee after the first p o in t should he agreed upon, a COlllitlitlCC in which all that related to accounts and ,calculations may he sifted and made cle,,f, The transfer of mo. ney from one service to another was also matter' for a C om mittee, but what was to be cline w i t h th e re,. minder of the Tenth Report ? Did Lord Melville vik for-further tlel4, saying he had evidence suf.' ficient for •.his acquittal ? id Mr. Trotter :ay any thing to that elfed ? But the 'People of Eng. land looked to this night for the opinion of their Representatives on this important case. He would ask the Right lion. Gentleman how long-it was since the expedient of a reference to a Committee occutred to him. The Right Honourable Gen. detests was anxious .for the produdion of Lord Melville's. Letter, and still morp, that die public mind should be- set at rest un this point before the liater recess.. Ile asked now, what necessity thete was for a Glinnslure, when the Right lion.G.:ntle. man said, that Committee multi not 'thrill. , " ,ant ‘ y fur_ Cher light on the .Ifrair ? WAS it contradicted; that the conveyance of the 'public money from the Bank oCE,ngland 'to a private Batik was contrary to law, and still mare, the application of it to private intr. lenses ? This- establacd at once a right to inquire, .Did' anr.one say that Mr. StsFott was in very honourable rtredicamcnt, when he was s ) loud when not .on- oath, and so - silent when he. was.-1 - le compared'the present case to that of the late Shetiffi of London, who were not allowed to justify themselves on - oath at the Bar. He doubted much whether a Committee of Inquiry would have come to any decision it) a week or a month ,; tot when the House would have to go over what had occupied the C'ornmiisioners above six months, 'the tisk could. not he very easily perfortn. ekt. The condat of Llrd was tow canvassed over the whole Country,' and , the joitg. Me l -It formed on it Insy he conceived from this; his LOrdship's hest friends . would not say to r tklifJ r N6t riporrny .1142no?Tir." Parliato, Iv pointed Cummirsioners for the C.lrrecti, , n yl Abuses in -the Navy, The . Commissioners ha;l reported Lord Melville had been guilty of kbi-raOt of the I,lw. Neither Lord Melville nor RIIY the off'rretl Any thing in of the f4t. Zit chit 11,1,k Committee Ispf loquiry prJper, twt fut