The Sun. — London, England, 1852-05-07 00:00:00

SUN, 114. lIITME said the Chancellor,of the Exchequer had n alsiuterprete , l what had fallen from him. He did not complain of the Right Hon. Gentleman's inattention, hut of th© general inattention of the House at the moment. Ile referred to the noise and crowding of Hon. Members at the bar, and to the inattention of the officer whose duty it was to prevent the confusion. If one Sergeant at-Arms was not enough let them have two or three. — (Cheers and laughter.) I.lr. W. BROWN hoped they might be allowed to Proceed with the business before them. Mr. HUME said that on one conditon he would not divide—viz., let ell those gentlemen on the floor of the house at the bar go to dinner.—(Lsughter.) The Hon. Members referred to having withdrawn to their places. Mr. HUME sail that he would now withdraw his motion, and he hoped Hen. Gentlemen would be better conducted. Mr. EWART then proceeded to address the,vCom mittee, contending fur the necessity of consolidating aii the Militia Acts before proceeding with the present B ill. The questi on was a poor man's est i o n ; for the work ing man could nu t be supposed u to understand all the Acts referred to in the Bill, or the provisions which were based upon these Acts. He contended, therefore, until the requisite consolidation was effected, they were justified in opposing by every legitimate means the pass ing of the Bill. The Committee then divided, when there appeared— 82 165 -83 For Mr. Hume's amendment Against it ... ..• Majority ... The amendment was accordingly lost. Mr. M. GIBSON then moved to insert the words "deputy-lieutenant" after the word „ appointed," in line 20 of this clause. The deputy-lieutenants would have to decide on claims to exemption from service in the mi litia; they were invested, therefore, with judicial powers. What he (Mr. Gibson) contended for was that the choice of persons for the duties of deputy lieutenant should not be confined to persons having 2001. a year landed estate, The amendment went to abolish the property qualification fer deputy lieutenants; and if it were not adopred he (Mr. Gibson) should move a proviso making individuals with a cer tain amount of personal property eligible to that office• should also propose to abolish the property qualifi cation as regarded majors in the militia and officers above that rank, on the ground that ho did not see what landed property had to do with military talent and effi ciency. Sir J. TYRELL did not understand the repeated at tacks of the Manchester gentlemen on the landed in terest —(Hear, hear.) The Right Hon. Gentleman was formerly a landed proprietor in the county of Suffolk himself, and ho was now put forward to prove the pug tacity.of the landed interest. He (Sir J. Tvrell) should feel no jealousy if the Right Hon. Gentleman made so blither bales of cotton a qualificscion; and he was willing to enter into a treaty of commerce with him on the sub ject. But he could not understand why these absurd at tacks —he was going to say—were made on the landed interest, except it was for the purposes of the hus t ings. These motions were neither useful nor advantegeous, and he hoped they would be discontinued. Bit J. WALSEI said that deputy-lieutenants were not necessarily part of the militia; he therefore thought the amendment was not in order. Mr. BERNAL decided that it was in order. Mr. WALPOLE thought the amendment proposed Would not work satisfactorily; he could not, therefore, consent to it; but he agreed with much that the Right 110 c. Gentleman had said on the subject of the personal qualification, and he should not object to the proviso, as regarded dicers, if it was fixed at 2001. a year personal qualification. Mn HUME said, it wou!d be better to leave the ap pointment of all officers to the discretion of the lord lieutenant. Lord PALMERSTON considered it would be very essential to the militia service to have one field officer Wh o had s erve d i n the line. He, there f ore. t h oug h t t h a t service in the army should be tantamount to a qualifi cation. M r. itt WALPOLE said that was already in the Bi 1. " tr. NE W DEGATE thought it h i gh l y ina dvisable t hat the deputy-lieutenants should not be locally ac quainted with the county through residence. After a few words from Mr. BRIGHT, ti l,lr. WA LPOLE said the lord-lieutenant would have Power of appointing a military man without any gee nue catton, and also the power of eppointing, in cilia the I : en ded provi s o w hi c h he (Mr Walpele) suggested as adopted, individuals possessing personal as *ell as real estate of a certain amount. The CH ANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought the qualification s h ou ld b e put upon the same basis as the Parliamentary qualification. M re PACKE acid landed property generally implied i elice; whereas t he possessor of personal property might be absent when his services were most needed. M •„: EWART said that personal property was reeog - B • as a qualification in certain counties and cities— ristol and York for instance. Sir E. COLEBROOKE was of opinion that the ap pointments in question should be left entirely to the 'ores lieutenants of counties. S ir P. THESIGER sa id t h ere wou ld bo a difficulty in case of the descent of personal property. After some further discussion, 0 Colo ne l SIBTHORP said, as so much difference of pinion existed with respect to the mode of qualification, it would be advi sa bl e if t h e Ri g h t H on. G ent l eman t h e Secretary for the Home Department postponed the con sideration of that part of the Bill. Mr. HUME thought the qualification ought to be left Entirely with the lord lieutenant. The dispute on this clause only showed the necessity of consolidating the Whole of the statutes on the subject. Mr. M. GIBSON said, as he understood that Govern ment agreed to the principle of his amendments, he would withdraw them on that understanding. The ATTORNEY- GENERAL said, it must be under stood that a different qualification would be required for different ranks. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER admitted it was important that the deputy lieutenant should be loc ally connected by qualification. At present the quali ficationt was irr es pective of locality. He did not see how he could make an exception in the present case. Mr. BRIGHT thought it was unjust to have a dif ferent amount of qualification for different ranks. He h oped Government would abolish the gradation qua lification, and fix the qualification at a moderate sum. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER did not consider the militia service was a pure military service. tie thought that some difference in the qualification °tight to be retained. Lord SEYMOUR hoped the question of promotion Was still reserved by Government. He trusted that pro- Motion would he attainable without specific qualification. Mr. WALPOLE said, whatever was the amount of real property qualification, Government would now ac ' Pt personal qua lifi cat i on . T he l ord- li eutenant wou ld "are power to appoint one officer from the line to a higher post in the militia without reference to qualifica tion (we understood). The clause was then agreed to. Clause 4, after discussion, was agreed to. On clause 5 being proposed, in answer to an objection b y Mr. W. WILLIAMS, Mr. WALPOLE said it was requisite the Crown should have the appointment of the sergeants (we un derstood.) The militia must be drilled by regular ser geants to become effective. After a few words from Mr. Williams,Colonel Sib therp, and Si r C . Burrell Mr. WALPOLE, in re p l y serg eants to a que s ti on put by Colonel would be taken from the regular army, but would go back to the army atter the drilling of the militia w as over. A distinction might be taken between the enrolment and the embodiment of the militia. He intended to move a proviso to the clause, that during the time of embodi ment the commanding officer should hacommandin gappointments of the non-com missioned officers under him. Sir G. GREY. was in favour of the Crown retaining the power of eppointing the non-commissioned officers. The more the Crown possessed such a power the more efficient would bo the force. b ggestion of Mr. The clause was then agreed to. h Clause 6 was amended, WALPOLE, to the effect holdingtalatamtitlailteliaosffisuhbeursidnoV3. e arcoaissione in the regular subject to Auch regulations as might afterwards be made - commissions Secretary of State, continue to hold The such commissions Hon. and - and tri the militia to be raised. he had stated the na ture-laearned Gentleman added, of the clause and that the alteration, in order to correct an impression that prevailed in the country, that the old militia officers were to be deprived of their tank.- lause nrovide that ex z Mr. ROBHOUSE—Does to c „ he _ may bung officers "shall be" continued, or teat t e Mr. WALL'OLE—" May be" f age, and many of the officers were now 7 0 years o f age, continued. A great .a n manyn Pl i ertunity of retiring would be afford ed them. The clause was then agreed to. On the next clause, Mr. CHARTERIS said ho had placed a notice t clean notice taper relative to the number of men, and as tha tommit. Commit tee Some reference to the clause, he hoped the . o ha d would allow him to state the general grounds why why he agreed that Placed it on the paper. The House seemed e" t "nee measure of defence was required, but a uiversity of opinion existed as to what constituted real def en , great . Bill s'e. Having gone into Committee ou . the present , they had to consider whether the provisions of it We re such a s t o ren d er i t an e ff ec ti ve meas ure of defence. It W as essential, in the first place, that they should come ,` to p a cle ar understanding as to the nature an d c h arac t e r 31: 11 e danger aga i ns t w hi c h we had to guard ourselves. need hardly remind the House that with respect to a neighbouring country we were not now in the position in w h ich w e were at the commencement o f t h e centur y. St eam had u n d ou btedly facilitated the concentration of t I.° °Ps and atta c k, and he believed that in proportion to the nee faci lity of attack would be its probability. They ell ht, therefore, to consider whether the measure Would provide a force capable of resisting an invading army of regular t roo p s , The opinion of most mili tary men was that a militia, drilled only for twenty °rift days in the year, was a force utterly incompetent to repel the attack of regular troops. The Bill proposed that 8 0,000 men should be drilled twenty - one d a y s in each year. But in his opinion it would bo better that th ey should limit the number of men to 40,000 or 50,000, and that th ose men s h ould b e more e fficiently trained. IT - 0 would, therefore, sug g e s t to his Right Hon. Friend , t he Secretary for the Home Department, that they should raise but 40,000 or 50,000 men, and that those Men should be drilled fifty-six days in the first year, and ten days in each of the four following years. Ha be !toyed that under that arrangement they would effect in the five years a saving to the amount of one-third of the expe llee which would be incurred under the Govern ment proposal. He wished further to observe that he thought they would do well to remove the compulsory clattaeti irons the Bill,—(Hoar, h e ar.) hoped his THE Right Hon. Friend would make some concession upon that subject, because he believed the greater part, if no' of that measure W 9.4 o ti w 'e in w e htoolethoefinthsearthOtr o P f a t i tt l e i s t e Y clause.s. — (flear, hear.) The CHAIRMAN asked the Hhh. Member whether he meant to move any amendment Mr. CHARTERIS replied in the negative. Ho merely wished to offer a suggestion. Mr. WALPOLE said that as his Hon. Friend had adverted to the 16th clause, which provided for the en forcement of the ballet, while they had under their con sideration the 7th clause , he (Mr. Walpole) would take that opportunity of announcing the intention of the Go• vernment upon that subject. The great object of the Government was to raise the required number of men by vo l un t a ry enlistment, if they could properly do so. They looked upon that as a great experiment, and they there fore proposed that the ballot should not be put in force until the last day of the present year. Under that ar rangement they would have Fix or eight months to see how tar they could raise the men by v tlantary enlist ment. Parliament and the country would by that means be able to judge of the experiment, and the results to which it might lead. The now Parliament would meet before the machinery of the ballot should have been put at all into operation—(Hear)—arei they would have a full opportunity of stopping that machinery it it should be found uenccessary to have recourse to it. The Go vernment were not anxious to have recourse to the ballot, but, on the contras y, were desirous of avoiding it if possible. Let him remind the Committee that if the Bill were not passed, and if it should be found necessary to have recourse to the ballot be tween the present time and the meeting of Parliament, they would have no means of ra isin g the men that would be required, except by removing the Ballot Sus ;tension Act, and resorting to the 42d of George 111. 171.9 could not approve of th e suggestion ofhis Hon. Fricod, that the proposed n umber of men should be les sened by one-half, and that the period for drilling should be greatly increased. He believed that the measure as it stood would comb ine the two great vantages of giving them a sufficient force for any emergency, and raising that force with as little disturbance as possible of the ordinary occup ations of the people. Ha proposed, however, to amend the wording of that clause by sub stituting for the words "there shall be raised," the fol lowing words—" it shall be lawful to raise." Lord JOCELYN expressed his disapproval of the proposal of his Hon. Friend (Mr. Charteris). The highest authorities upon that subject had expressed their belief that 70,000 or 80,000 men were the smallest number which could form an efficient force. He did not expect that that Bill would give them any perfectly trained and effective troops; but it would enable the Government to know where they could lay their hands on a body of men who would be found extrsmely useful in an emergency. He would suggest to his Right Hon. Friend the Secretary for the Home Department a mode by which the efficiency of the force might b very consie derably increased. Under the Queen's warrant soldiers were at present allowed to purchase their discharge on pa} ment of a certain sum, graduated according to the amount of service they might have performed. It appeared to him that it would be very desirable to allow those men to purchase their discharge at a lower rate. on condition of their enrolling themselves in the militia, while they should receive the same bounty as other volunteers. He believed that the number of soldiers who purchased their discharge amounted annually to about 1,600; and it wet evident that those men who had undergone a regular military training might add greatly to the efficiency of the militia force. He thought that the men themselves would not he unwilling to avail themselves of that arrangement, and he had also reason to think that it would meet with the approval of military authorities. Ltir. WALPOLE having here proposed that the blank in the clause should be filled up with the words " eighty thousand," Mr. M. GIBSON said that as the Right Hon. Gentle man bad announced his intention of postponing the ope rations of the ballot until after the meeting of the next Parliament, there could he no practical use in asking the House at present to vote for the enactment of the ballot. If that measure could not be enforced 'mil after the meeting of the new Parliament, why should it be enacted in the meantime? And why should they commit them selves to a principle without any necessity ? And if they were to postpone one-half of the Bill. why should they not ego postpone the other half? Why should they, to use a common saying, " make two bites of a cherry?" Thy proposed to raise 80,000 militiamen, end they bad got, at the lowest computation, 67.000 re gular troops within the United Kingdom. Now the Noble Lord the Member for Tiverton had informed them that in the month of January, 1814, during the height of the French war, they had in the United Kingdom only 80,000 militiamen and 56.000 regular troops; so that it was at present proposed that they should have a larger force in time of peace then they had during the height of the French war. Was that reasonable? They told him of the danger of attack; but his apprehension arose from the danger of an aggression on the part of this country.—(Laughter, and cries of "Oh, oh,") That apprehension was at least justified by past events, while the theory of an unexpected attack to be made on us by it friendly nation was unsupported by any facts in the history of this country. His theory that the English Government might pursue en interfering policy in Europe was based, not on the doctrines of the Peace Society, but on events which had already actually taken place. If a foreigner of intelligence heard Ministers talking of the chastity of our women, or the wealth 1 of our merchants being in danger from France, he would believe England was about to embark on an aggressive policy. This was not a time to get up debates imputing to France concealed designs of attack, and awakening her jealousies and fears. He would not speak of the press; but such a course pur sued by men of eminence and Ministers of State was calculated to bring on war. He could suggest no course more likely to produce such a result—gentlemen going down to the House of Commons and making speeches — (Loud ironical cheering)—and without any facts—(Re newed cheers)—imputing, bad motives to a friendly power.—(Continued cheering.) There was not a pretext for this measure; for the Noble Lord the Member for Tiverton had declared that when he had left the Foreign Office there was perfect tranquillity.—(Hear.) The militia were to be raised first by bounty. When the men, however, had the money, how were they to be secured? To lavish such an immense sum on so large a number of men, and without any effective means of se curing their services, was really most unreasonable. Was there to be a vacua abuse ea the charaeter of the En glish people, and their disposition to tulfil their engage ments?—(Loud cheers.) It would be far better to with draw the measure for more mature consideration on this and other points.—( Hear, hear.) As to steam it was all nonsense, for the question remained just where it was before as to disembarkation. Steam enateled a hostile foe to cross the sea quicker, hut not to land more easily; and on the other hand, enabled us to transport our means of defence more rapidly by railway. He should certainly take the sense of the House on this proposition of 80,000 men. Lord PALMERSTON—Sir, I do not rise to discuss whose speeches are most calculated to promote hostili ties with foreign countries—(Laud cheers)—or encou rage and invite invasion.—(Renewed cheers.) I leave that to the decision of the eublic.—(Continued cheers.) But the Right Hon. Gentleman has misrepresented what I said ors a former occasion.— (Hear, hear.) He repre sented ma to have stated that in January, 1814, we had 80,000 militia—[Mr. GIBsoN-82,000] —and 56,000 re gular troops in the United Kingdom, and that therefore toe proposal now ma to for 80,000 militia and 56,000 re gular troops—[Mr. GIBSON-67,000]—will place the country precisely in the same situation as in 1814. But, Sir, my Right Hon. Friend appears to be ignorant of the difference between an enrolled end an embodied mi litie—( dear, hear.) What I said was that, in 1814, we had not 80,000, but 89,000—(Hear, hear)—militia —not enrolled only, but embodied—(Hear, hear)—armed and under discipline all the year round, and in ail respects like the regular troops.—(Hear, hear.) That is not what is proposed now.—(Hear, hear.) It is not proposed to have a militia even of 80,000 embodied, but only en rolled.—(Hear, hear.) The parallel, therefore, totally fails.—(Hear, hear.) The cases are utterly different. — (Hear, hear,) And, Sir, it is to be remembered that though 1814 was a year of war, the French had plenty of employment in other parts of the world—(Hear, hear) —and probably there was never a year in which there was less chance of invasion.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. GIBSON said he would, of coarse, submit to the Noble Lord's correction as to the numbers of the militia in 1814; hut the Noble Lord bad not contra dicted the o th er par t o f t h e sta t e ment, that in 1814 there were only 56.000 regular troops in the United Kingdom, wh ereas now there were 67,000, though that was a time of war and this was a time of peace.—(Hear, hear.) invasio n was probable, now it was improbable.— (Hear, hear.) The Noble Lord said the militia were td not to be embodied. Then it was only to be on paper. —(No, no.) Then what was it to b e ?—(Oh, oh.) If it were not to be embodied , there arebcinourd to payldbeno ethmeebrgoeunnctyy and no hurry. I t was eri to t money he m p e r r i e e l o y f o o f r a p enrolment. Why th e 6/. j us t am ounted passageen America.—(oh, oh .) m Who could expect th e to come back when it was They could be off to A mer i ca . expected back again, w hy military go o n l eave o f w anted to embody them? bouer --wo(Oniht,gohht.)as I w f e t l h l ey le c t ou a l l d i taoodfaeondd tihtawt: Mr. F. SCOTT said that foreigners woulsclo absence.--(Divide.) degraded that naturallyd t h etrhee suppose that the people of this country wore design defenceless .—(Hear, that thoefy:aonudldoneivnegnittte(limeaorn,ehye e was utterly def . (Hear, hear.) Nothing iOre, 1 Could be invite invasion mor e calculated ton and i n d uce attack.—(Hear, hear .) He deprecated such speeches, much mischief and Crean, hhht as pre ssions both a t ten ding to produceh home e nd abroad. — (Hear.) d into some titobservaons about the Mr. HUM.. entered cause f xation, anti " country gentlemen" being the I 'nne' of agricultural distress, taunted them with.comp , inienancrag a cry of inva sion," at the same Valle COI the pres 'eat measure, imposing :don," which produced If this measure were ad ditional burdens upon the people' id o the conty Members, carried it would be by the a out or f fo g G relief who were heretofore cryi n g . nth , - ly astonished that g from the heavy burdens that p ressed upon them Mr. W. MILES was perfectly t • men who called on the Governmen t to name a day for dissolution should get up and deliver themselves of set speeches, evidently intended for the second reading, _ in stead of confinirg themselves to the particular clause of the Bill before the Committee.—(Hear.) If they were to discuss the clauses let them strictly do se, but not make speeches de omnibus rebus et quibusdant aliis.—(llear.) Mr. RICH objected that so large a number as 50,000 men, out of the requisite 80,000, should be raised in the present year by bouutv. They apprehended danger or they did not. He wished to know, in case of an emer gency occurring, if tbey would prefer to rely on these 50,000 men, to an addition of 15,000 regular troops to the army?—(Hear, and divide.) Mr. J. EV &NS could not fancy gentlemen acting as her Majesty's Government were “bout to act, if they really were under a sense of danger. They would raise 150,n00 men this year by bounty if they could get them; E , it they could not, they would do without them. Th e compulsory clause was put off to the next year; why not postpone the whole matter? What was to become of the country in the interim?—(Hen:, hear.) Who could tell if the invasion weeld not take place in the foggy nights between this and Christmas.—(Hear, end laughter.) Mr. WYLD opposed the Bill, as, in his opinion, its only effect would be to place in the hands of the Govern ment a large amount of patronage.—(Oh, oh.) After a few words from Colonel THOMPSON, who also opposed the Bill, Mr. COBDEN thought the statement of the Right Hou. Gentleman, the Secretary of State for the dome Deportment, that the Government would not be able to put this measure into force this year, a sufficient reason for reporting progress. If this Bill could not compel service in the militia, it was totally inefficient. Ho should like to know what course the Noble Lord the Member for Tiverton meant to take, after his assertion that we might be invaded by 60,000 men from Cherbourg in one night. But ho (Mr. Cobden) totally denied that in Lancashire, Yorkshire, or Middlesex there could be got together volunteers at 61. a head; for men would not be found to leave their work on such an errand. A more ridiculous waste of time and money than this measure would entail he could not conceive; and, considering the altered state of circum stanees, and the necessity of letting the public out of doors know what they had been doing, he trusted they would now consent to report progress.. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER would not now stop to inquire whether the people of England were the " vagabonds" they had been described to be by the Hon. Member, or the " clod hoppers," as they had been characterised by the Hon. Member for Man chester.—(Hear, hear.) It was somewhat remarkable, that Hon. Gentlemen, who were so often appealing to popular sympathy, and who boasted so of the privilege of representing the people, should never speak of the masses except in terms of contempt and contumely.— (Cheers.) The Right Hon. Colleague of the Member for Manchester said that none but vagabonds would enlist in the service, because the people were rapidly emigrating from this country. Probably the Right Hon. Gentleman alight know something of the cause of that emigration.—(Haar, hear.) When the motion for reporting progress was made, he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) was anxious to know on what ground Hon. Gentlemen contended that the whole principle of the Bill had undergone a change.—(Hear.) Now, the Bill was brought in on the principle of voluntary enlist ment, and he must say, after due deliberation and con sideration, and after receiving mach information upon the subject, her Majesty's Government were satisfied that a sufficient force by that plan could be got together. --(Hear, hear.) From the principle of voluntary en listment there had been no departure.—(Hear, hear.) And now, as to what his Right Honourable Friend the Home Secretary had acid with regard to the ballot; under ordinary circumstances it would take four months to bring the ballot into full play.—(Hear, hear.) His Right Hon. Friend, with the sanction of his colleagues, and in deference to the House and the country—in an ticipation of another Parliament meeting within the year—offered to insert a date in the Bill which would secure to the new Parliament the power of interfering if this point of the ballot was considered a cause of ap prehensien and likely to lead to unpopularity.—(Hear, hear.) The offer made , then , could not be considered in the slightest degree a deviation from the principle of the measure, or from the policy which dictated it.—(Hear, hear.) It was, he would not say a concession, but a dis position to meet an objection which might be made. The assertion, therefore, of the Honourable Member for the West Riding, that any change had been made in the principle of the Bill, was one of those exaggerations to which the Hon. Member so often and so felicitously bad recourse—(Hear, hear; — which, under other circumstances, had found consider able success, but which he (the Chancellor of the Ex chequer) trusted would not meet with so happy a result on the present eccation.—(Hear and cheers.) This Bill sought to establish a militia on the voluntary principle, and that principle had been adopted in the conviction that it was practicable.—(Hear, hear.) The Govern ment believed that principle would succeed, but in hav ing recourse to the ballot they did not practically deviate from the plan first sketched.—(Hear, hear.) The bal lot would not be brought into operation, and by that t ime the new Parliament would meet. The measure was never intended to produce a disciplined force which should be able to encounter the disciplined forces of the great states of Europe; and the attempt to compare such a force to the legions of Algiers or the armies of the Caucasus was one which, he trusted, the Committee would not encourage.—(Hear, hear.) This was a first attempt to habituate the people of this country more to the use of arms than heretofore. Irresistible circum stances had rendered such a policy necessary.—(Hear.) If this Bill passed, although it would not produce a force which could meet the veteran armies of the world, it would lay the foundation of a constitutional system i of national defence.—(Cheers.) Mr. COBDEN repelled with indignation the insinua tions of the Right Hon. Gentleman—(Oh) —who had charged him with having accused the people of this country with being vagabonds.—(oll.) Be had too much respect for the people of England to believe that they would accept the bounty, and turn soldiers for 21 days. What he said was, that the people of Yorkshire, Lancashire, and Middlesex, were too profitably employed to engage themselves in such a manner. The mechanics and artisans would not accept the bounty, and the men they were likely to get would bo the " vagabondage" of the country.—(Oh, oh.) Colonel SIBI'IIORP trusted the Hon. Member's con stituents would remember the epithet applied to them. But the Hon. Member would not think it politic to call them " vagabonds" on the busting. Mr. BRIGHT said the Chancellor of the Exchequer seemed to think they weie making an unnecessary noise and turmoil upon the question, when it was the fact that he had made changes of importance in the Bill. The House and the country, however, was of a different opinion. He contended that a very important change had been made, if not in the principle, at least in the details and circumstances of the measure. Instead of making himself absolutely certain that he could raise a force of even 10,000 men, he leaves the defences of the country to the chapter of accidents, and puts off the ballot to the end of the year. The opinion of the most eminent mili tary men was that they could not raise the requisite force by volunteering. They had entirely shifted their ground, and abandoned that of urgency and danger, and postponed all active measures till the 31st Decem ber. The Right Hon. Gentleman was unwilling to go to the country upon the question of free trade his (Ques lion.) HO wished to appeal o n the principles of gene ral policy, and, as the present measure was one of gene ral policy, he thought that portion of the Bill at least which referred to the ballot ought to be postponed till the electors would have an opportunity of pronouncing an opinion upon it. The Right H on. Gentleman said the object Was to accustom the people of this country , more to the use of arms. He denied that that was tra velling in the right direction; and if there was anything more than another that had rivetted the chains of Europe, it was placing in the bands of these despotic rulers large armies to crush the liberties of the people. If that was the direction the Right Hon. Gentleman meant to proceed in, he would be regarded as one of the most mischievous rulers that that couotry had ever known.—(Oh, eh!) He trusted he would withdraw from the Bill the clauses that referred to the ballot, and leave them to th© consideration of another Parliament. Mr. WALPOLE was not surprised that Hon. Gentle men opposite would not receive the repeated assurances' of the Government that they did not intend to have re course to compulsory service, unless they failed in ob taining voluntary tenders. The ballot, he repeated, would not be put into operation until they were assured that the voluntary enlistment would fail. The announce ment he had made was strictly in accordance with what he had stated from the commencement—unless in case of a threatened invasion the machinery for the ballot would not be called into operation.—(Hear, hear.) Thet was the whole announcement he had made, and it was consistent with everything he had previously said. The proposition of a Militia Bill was not brought forward from any apprehension of invasion, but on the general principle that a country like that should not be left in a state of uudefence; and since there really was no appre hension of an invasion, that was the best time to provide against danger, by a measure of provident precaution, where no alarm or jealousy could be reasonably excited. After a few words tram Mr. BASS, Mr. CHARTERIS said he would not have ventured to have brought forward a motion on this subject unless he had consulted the opinions of some eminent military men, who thought that 40,000 regular troops would be more efficient than 80,000 militiamen. But inasmuch as the Hon, Member for Manchester had taken up the motion, ho felt himself in such a position that if the Hon. Member persisted in his amendment he would sup port him. Mr. HEY WORTH supported the amendment. Mr. OSWALD said that even when the Noble Lord the Member for Tiverton, instead of turning the other cheek, smote the Noble Lord the Member for London under the fifth rib—(Lauehter)—he was not tempted to j the onslaught. Inasmuch as the House had de clared by a majority of about 150 in favour of the se cond reading, he would bow to that decision, and al though he was by no means favourable to the present Government, he would support them in the present in- stance. Mr. M. GIBSON said, that all he proposed was than the word " eighty" be struck out, leaving it to any Hon. Member to propose to fill up the black as he pleased. Mr. J. EVANS said, that as the principle of the Bill h st a a d mte b r e w. e Th n it lffi tih,c r e med by a large majority of the House , he was not , disposed to support an amendment that was T. calculated to destroy that principle. UgLeLesAtieGreflraepapileyalwedastotbetthewCashbaeeririmae tb Chairman to House. The Committee then divided, when there appnred— Ay e :: 1N b ss Noes Majoritywes tthen e 131 T h filled up with th e wor d s " e i g hty 11°uisre.31)Nd b I VALPOLE moved that the second blank be o f men to be raised for the fi aaat r nhtm s t ees thatyear.hnhdolumo lu amendment MLA up with the words " fifty thousand" as the number er t hre o paeod p fr r stt o ebp p t etr o lo s ebg e d , irge o bs b st: j: : M at e r olci - otov BRlGHT, e pdrethat eeed the i e h g a avcf;ebnharagair, that as Chairman am n r 3 utou:diallarnkulimiLje!Eotfoa asiidt men to be raised under the Bill, ho had uo objection to fill up the second blank with the words " fifty tbousad'' foroeryear; Manchesterbut he h w o o p u r d tbhee accededmot i cn of the hens Member to by the Gov ,- rn ment. o ELL R of the EXCHEQUER could understand the p r opriety of deferring further discussion, blank if it were object ed to fill up the se The CHANCELLOR LONDON, FRIDAY number of men to be raised in the first year with " fifty thousand;" o:lerwise he could see no reason why they should not p , se the clause then. Sir E. COLEB4OOKE said he objected to the "flay thon, , a , A," and intended to oppose it. The motion for reporting progress was then agreed to, and the Chairman obtained Leave to sit again to-morrow (this day). The Stock-in-Trade Bill was read a third time and passed. The Stamp Deities (Ireland) Continuance Bill was read a second time, and ordered to he, committed. PROPERTY_AND INCOME-TAX BILL. Colonel SIBTHORP protested against the renewal of this oppressive and unElual tax, which he regarded as almost a breach cf faith on the part of the Govern ment. So strongly did he disapprove of this Bill, that if an opportunity offered he would, take the sense of the House against it. He trusted the Government would be Lb le to hold out some prospect that this tax would not be renewed at the expiration of the ensuing year. Mr. HEYWORTH, on tho contrary, thought the Bill ought to be extended to almost every income in the country, with a view to the removal of indirect taxation. Colonel TIIOIIPSON hoped that there was no more chance of repealing the income-tax than of the restora tion of the corn-laws. 'lie wished to see the income tlx levied in perpetuity as a means of raising t'ce re venue of the country. _ Sir H. WILLOUGHBY considered the income-tax es sentially unequal. He knew many persons who by means of its operation were paying 12 or 14 per cent. on their income. He fear e d, however there was no al ternative between either renewing this tax for a year or witnissing a great deficiency in the Exchequer. He believed that abroad some miscenception existed upon the Chancellor of the Exchequer's speech on the budget, an opinion prevailing that the Right Hon. Gentleman was opposed to direct taxation and favourable to Customs' duties as a means of raising revenue. He wished . to' call the attention of the Government to the lax way in which the documents connected with the income-tax were preserved. In one town the returns bad been sold to grocers, and the ac counts of the chief tradesmen were sold with the articles vended in those shops. If the tax were preserved some means should be taken to preserve those returns. If a landlord let a farm upon a lease at, say, 3001. a-year, and made a reduction of 10 per cent, to the tenant, he was bound to pay three per cent. on the 3001. a-year, and not upon the 270/. This was an injustice upon those landlords who to meet the pressure of the times had made reductions in their rents. He thought that were a bond fide reduction bad been made the income-tax ought to be paid 'upon the income actually received, and not upon the nominal income. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—I hope my Hon. and Gallant Friend the Member for Lincoln does not mean to accuse the present Government of any , breach of faith because we have proposed the re-impo sition of the income-tax for a limited period. In the position in which we find ourselves I do not know that we could have pursued any other course than that which we have taken. I have no fear that when the country generally gives an unpassioned consideration to the present state of affairs, it will condemn us for the inevitable course which we have pursued.—(Hear, hear.) My Hon. Friend the Member for Evesham has touched upon an other point, which at this hour I would not have ven tured to obtrude on the attention of the House; but which, hinting been alluded to, it would not become me to pass unnoticed. When I brought forward my finan cial statement it was my intention—and I believe I ful filled that intention—to express no opinion on any sub ject whatever. I confined myself to bringing before the House what I believed to be a complete view of our financial condition.—(Hear.) I confined myself to that duty because it was necessary for me to terminate my observations by making a proposition which, abstractedly as a measure of finance, Ido not approve of. I wished the country to comprehend clearly our financial posi tion, and the inevitable necessity the Government was under of submitting that proposition. I also wished that the country should take advantage of the interv a l which must elapse before another financial statement can be made by a Chancellor of the Exchequer— whoever may fill that important office —to arri ve at some conclusion as to the principles on which the revenue of the country ought to be raised. With these views:l most studiously guarded myself against giving any opinion either for or against the policy which has been pursued with respect to the reduction and te pee( of the Customs' duties.—(Hear.) I believe I was equally guarded in any observations I made with respect to the other modes by which the public revenue is raised. I felt it my duty to place before the House, without any col our i ng an d in a calm spirit, the conse quences of recent reductions of the Customs' duties and their effect on the finance of the country. My observa tions were limited. strictly to the influence of those measure on finance. I avoided all commercial eon troversy—l entered into no discussion as to whether the policy of our predecessors was tainted by injustice—l avoided all topics of that nature, because I thought them unnecessary and not germane to the question under dis cussion. It appeared to me that my sole duty was to place a clear view of our finances before the House, and to abstain from proposing any alteration in the mode of raising the revenue. Finding that to be my only duty, I certainly made no particular reference to those classes of the community who are, in my mind, greatly suffer ing, and to whose sufferings it is, according to my opi nion, the duty of Parliament to apply some remedy.— (Cheers.) I certainly communicated to the House the important fact, that in estimating the revenue of the country it was necessary to make great allowances for reductions of rental and farming profits.—(Hear, hear.) In the position in which the Government, the House, and the country are placed, it would have been indiscreet in me en that occasion to have obtruded the opinions which the Government may entertain with respect to the re medial measures such a state of affairs may require. Alter it has been publicly announced, and after that an nouncement has been accepted by the country, that on an occasion which is now not only not distant but im minent, the opinion of the constituent body will be taken with respect to that subject especially, it would have been most improper in me, in making the financial state ment, to have troubled the Rouse in detail with any schemes or measures that had reference to the alleviation of the sufferings of the agricultural classes.—(Hear, hear.) In taking that course, I think I acted in unison with the feelings of the ; wthority of this House and of the country; but, after Member the observatio ns of my Hon. Friend thefor E h v e e r sh m a a m je , sltyhsahvaell no hesita tion in saying thatwhen have re curred to the sense of h er people, her Majesty ' s Go vernment are prepared t o i ntroduce, in due season, those remedial measures which they believe are required by justice, and by regard to the permanent interests of the country.—(Cheers.) I think there can be no misunder standing in this House or in the country on that subject. We are prepared to fulfil, as far as lies in our power, that policy with regard to the agricultural interest which we advocated on the other side of the House.—Cheers.) Strong, however, as may be our determination, and firm as may be our convictions, I still believe that on the occasion of making the financial statement it would have been a most uncalled-for Proceedin g to o bt r ude an ex planation of our ommons,—(Che p e oli rs.) c C y on th e attention of the H ouse o f After a few words from Mr. ANSTEY and Mr. Wenn, Mr. PACKE expressed his warm thanks to the Chan cellor of the Exchequer for the statement he had made with respect to the most suffering class in the country. The statement could not fail to give satisfaction to the agriculturist..—(Hear, h ear . ) Sir G. GREY was not surprised at the alarm which seemed to have taken possession of Hon. Gentleman oß posite in consequence of the able and satisfactory state ment delivered by the Chancellor of the Exchequer in introducing his budg e t_ --- e Cheers.) It was evictent, from the scene which h a d been enacted that night, that Hon. Gentlemen were anxious to extort from the Right Hon. Gentleman some declaration on which they might found a distant hope that the members of the Government , in their M inisterial -- career, would act on the opinions which they maintained on the other side of the House when they led what used to be called the Protectionist party...ens et - e a ar, hear.) The Right Hon. Gentleman had now declared, in, tange lo ,t) similar to that employed by him on former occasions, that the Govern ment would first appeal to the country, and then bring forward the measures Which t h ey deemed necessary. But he had given them no distinct idea as to what those measures were likely to be; nor did he (Sir G. Grey) think it was very material to know.- - (aear, hear.) lie did not think it at all necessary that they should cross examine the Right Hon. Gentle an in the way some of his supporters had done, in order' to get at the opinions of the Government.—(Hear, and 1 a "'ugh.) The Right Hon. Gentleman told them that he had not on Friday ' anything whatever with evening said respect to our commer ci a l policy. He had been equally discreet to ll to night. But it was not, after n a ot ' a matter of very great consequence. They relied which the opinions of the the facts the R - Government, but on d.—(Ch ht 1 14 Hon. Gen tleman had brought forwarf Cheers,) They were Gen well aware of those facts be ore. (Pr --% -. ear, hear.) They had been stated over and over _again in speeches in that House, and in p a mphlets out of a d u l d rs . . " The accuracy of those statements had beeni C P ro g wn c ,but now they had one of the Ministers of the conning forward and irre? declaring that those facts werepower and re e l el asee, and illus trating them with a - (llear, hear.) oence seldom equalled in that House.Those h facts had country; and, go t been appreciated by the would find, it on o th t e country when they might, they l or remodel the policyB hustings they proposed to repea adopted, that the 134100 which o late years had been would re spondhad derived that they important with one voice benefits from that new policy, and that th ey were not disposed to give it up.—(Cheers.)asked,if benefit had be en Mr. W. MILES conferred policy, what benefit on the consumers by °lia r, Look at the state of the had ac crued to the producers? le time of the mone agricul tural classes, and at the sa was prosperous? Rate4grtet. Did that show that tradeed on, it had been with u- ve very largo trade had been cart reatest confidence in the Right r small profits. He had the g ll r of the Exch Chance o eqeur. He Hon. Gentleman the 6 swerved from the principles he had never, since 184 , might depend upon it that the prin ciplesadvocated; and they . opposition he would, as est• • a Minis ter, he supported in _ (Hear, hear.) ter, honestly act upon. The Bill was then read a second time. The Grand Juries (Metropolitan District) Bill was read a second time and seat to Select Committee. of, and the Ho use disposed The other orders were ' adjourned at a Quarter to Two o clock. .he--.---------eeia—eees-a--_ : • Mr. Bullock had an interview yesterday with Sir John Pakington, et 030 Colonial -office. Dispatches were received 'at the Colonial-office yester day from the Governors of Bong-Kong and Ceylon. Dispatches were also received from the Governor of the Mauritius. Dispatches were sent yesterday to the Go vernor of Gibraltar. EVENING, M A Y 7, 185'2 , THE 'MILITIA BILL In r certain seens parts wha o t f i s England h t e h g e e nat i , .s o I f s e tt.o n t o - t u - p b s a n t , b a u r t which has other resemb'ance to the sport coaafn9 I y known by that name th an th a t th ere i s a beln twop n par ties, and two opposite goals. Instead of the, lisa; and elastic fabric vs hich alternately rolls in the mud and soars to the clouds, the ball is of a gravity and consist ence only less than that of a sixty-eight pounder. From the moment that it is thrown into the crowd to that when it is dragged to a goel, it is the centre and object of a struggle that may be compared to the ancicot Panora tium. The party in possession enjoys its precarious triumph at the expense of suffering every violence and indigai'y that may be applied to wrest the prize out of its hands. It is rolled in the dust, crushed under the weight of its surging antagonists, pushed into rivers and pits, rolled down banks, and compelled to resign the ball or be smothered, torn to pieces, or drowned. The assailants, being perfectly unembarrassed, ta'ae their choice of operations, and make themselves as dangerous and disagreeable as they can. Now, that is the game which has been played in the House of Commons the whole of this session. The proposal of a militia is just such a heavy, tough ball as that we have described. We will not say—for, indeed, we hardly know—who first threw this apple of discoed among the rival goddesses, but Lord John Russell first appeared 33 the party in possession. After a great deal of hard usage, by a eudden agglomeration of rivals and foes the ball was wrested from him rather unhandsomely, and fell into unexpected hands. It was indeed a very heavy blow that compelled him to relax his usually firm grasp, and surrender the prize. Since that he has done his best to revenge himself, hitherto with no great suc cess; but the sufferings of the party no-.v in posses sion have been, and still are, considerable. As the temporary holders and defenders of the measure, they have to encounter the whole weight of its odium. They are charged with an idle panic, with subjecting free citizens to military discipline, with bribery, with con scription, with extravagance, with the vanity of a super fluous armament, with the sin of gratuitous provoca tion, and with making the very name of Government un popular. All this, be it observed, they suffer, not for their own sakes, but for a measure which they certainly would not have originated. By the laws of the game it has fallen into their hands, and they are bound to retain it as long as they can, in order that they may carry it to their own goal. That is the scene we are likely to witness night after night in the House of Commons till either the goal is reached, or, through failure of sinew, bone, or wind, the ball is relinquished by its hard-pressed possessors. As the struggle last night was compara tively trivial and mild, consisting rather of petty skirmishes on this or that point of the measure, we will go back to the closing scene of Taesday night. What a tussle was that 1 What close quarters they came to! What home thrusts were exchanged ! What truths were then spoken, that are not to be spoken at all times ! The scull: was of the true Homeric character, as if it had been the body of Patroclus for which they were contending. Mr. Bright, standing, as the poet would say, on the body, called his myrmidons from afar to the attack. " Let us postpone the measure," that is, prolong the fight, "in order that the opinion of the country may be expressed for or against the Bill. When is expressed," that is, swilla as you feel that opinion the pressure from without, "you . be obliged to ' reply was to the abandon the measure," Mr. Disraeli s purpose, end would have been irresistible had his own hands been moderately clean. Besides the general understanding that the be expedited necessary business of the country w a s to with the utmost dispatch, he urged that it was uncon stitutional to permit a delay, not for the purpose of ex aminingf the provisions of a Bill , bu t to g ive time for agitation out of doors. There can be no doubt that th was to the point. What Mr. Bright and his friends want, is not the opinion of the country on a measure which substantially has been three months before the country, end which the country has taken very mildly, even in its first form, when the proposition was to raise, mainly by ballot, near twice the number of men now proposed, but a good noisy agitation against the present proposers of the measure. That they persona lly deserve it on the principles of party warfare might be readily eonceded; but if we are to take a constitutional view of the question, it certainly is most preposterous that, when the present measure is only a much milder version of one that was brought before the public three months since, delay should be demanded for the express purpose of asking the people what they think of the measure, or, in other words, getting up the steam in the provinces against it. — Tames. SPORTING NOTES. No. CCXXII. A HINT OR TWO ON THE NEWMARKET SECOND SPRING MEEIING. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SU.N. SlR,—The Dee Stakes were won, after a close con test with the Princess colt, by Attack, which does not say much for the winner's Oaks chance, especially as that very inferior animal, Kiteflyer, was a good third. The sport at head quarters on the three days of the ensuing week will be of a more wretched description than that at either the Craven or first Spring; for which reason I shall merely give a glance at those stakes al ready closed. The Champion Stakes, of course, the Duke of Bed ford pockets. The Sweepstakes of 50 Sovs. will be a walk over for Mr. Stanley's Teddington or Mr. Magennis's The Ban. The Sweepstakes of 10 sovs. each for two yrs old is a bit of a mystery, but I strongly fancy that PELION or BOUNTY may turn up tolerable good ones from the dark division. I should have selected Placid for my abso lute winner but for the penal 51b. The Suffolk Stakes may possibly fall to the lot of ST. ANTONIO; one of the extreme light weights, Maria or Hugo, occupying the second position. I am, Sir, yours, &c., THE SPIRIT OF THE TURF. May 7, 1852. SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. CHESTER R ACES.—WEDNESDAY. THE CUP. Duc•an-Dhurras took the lead immediately after starting, and made the running at a good pace, followed by Hungerford, Cardinal Wiseman, Alonzo, View Halloo, and Truth; Joe Miller and Bonita lying in the centre; and in the rear Stilton, Nancy, Hothorpe,•Ttichard Prim mer, Hippolytus, Barley-sugar, and Birmingham, all of whom, besides several others, got off very badly. At the workhouse turn, Cardinal Wiseman closed with Due-an- Dhurras, headed him, and went in advance to the back of the course, where he gave precedence to Hungerford, who in his turn gave way at the bridge to Bonita, Joe Miller, Scarecrow, and several others. Benita now took up the running, which she maintained to the upper turn in the second round. where Joe Miller closed, and head ing her opposite the railway bridge, went on with a strong lead, and won in a canter by half a length, Stilton beating Poodle as far, Benito. well up with the latter, the Black Doctor was fifth, and Lady Evelyn sixth. At the end of a tremendous tail wore Nancy, Ulriee, Sister to Fencer, Barley-sugar, and Birmingham. Run in 4 min. 6 secs. There cannot be two opinions as to the fact of this trsing been the greatest " Cup-day" ever known at Chester, whether we look at the unprecedented number of starters or the almost incredible concourse of spec tators assembled to do it honour. For hours previous to the commencement of the races, trains-some with upwards of forty carriages-came in from all quarters at the shortest possible intervals compatible with safety, pouring forth continuous streams, and ren• dering the streets almost impassable. The scene on tho Roodee beggars description ; the stands were crammed to suffocation, and on the course, as well as on the city walls and the slopes, dense masses met the eye in every direction, and from first to last the excitement was intense. Extraordinary as was the multitude, it was not less so that the day should have passed over not only without accident, but with the most perfect good humour and regularity. The great race, which came off shortly after four o'clock, resulted in an easy victory for Jos Miller-Stilton, by whom he was defeated for the Metropolitan Handicap, obtaining on this occasion only second honours; Poodle was third, Bonita fourth, Black Doctor fifth, and Lady Evelyn sixth-the rest tailed off an immense distance; Richard Primmer fell over the rails at the workhouse turn in the second round, but neither himself nor his rider received any serious injury. The excitement pro duced by the arrival of thousands of Nancy's admirers from Hull and Beverley, and the reckless profusion with which their money was laid out on her, was increased by a report that some Yorkshire " roughs " intended by some reaneeuvre to get some of the clothes from the jockey before mounting, and so reduce the weight she ought to carry, and return them on his dismounting to return to scale! Had such an absurd idea been enter tained, the vigilance of the stewards would have pre vented its being carried into execution. Her defeat was unequivocal; she never showed in any part of the race. As some curiosity may be felt to know the positions. of the horses at starting, we subjoin the order in which they were regulated by the draw:- Front Rank-1, Russborough ;2, Redmond O'Haelon; 3, Scarecrow; 4, View Halloo; 5, Goldfinder; 6, A I( rr cl ° ! 7, Black Doctor; s, Sister to Fencer; 10, Joe Miller; 11, Wiltnont; 12, Koh-i-Noor; 1 b ~0 16, dinal Wiseman; 14, Indian Warrior; 15, 13 2 . .!. 1 a , 19, 9, Marl lar. Due. an-Dhurras; 17, Old Dan Tuckermountain li j_ Bonita; 20, Truth; 21, Hyppolytus; 22, iclaard Prim- Rear Rank-1, Poodle; 2, Retail; 3.';116, Dulcet; 7, a a; eer. mer; 4, Birmingham; 5, Lady High Sheriffso, Backbiter; 21, Singh; 11, Le Jeuf; 12, Cockcrow; gun Hesse Homburg; 8, Hothorpe; 9 E , vAe.lrlitot is ,. a l r ? e , y ? s h u o g l a a r b ; 14, Lady Amyott; 15,16. Hungerford; 17, Stilton; 18, Nancy; 19, IJlrica; of telegraphic Vampyre. from Middle Crane-street, ae 3 from the meTasesegeasrrangement for the dispatcfhw course, were completed this the great race made known in London, p Man mo_rualanfa,a,and the result o f ql chester, &c., within 10 minutes aft y e . r ea t r h , e i t t im i e s J il o o e t Mileru passed the winning-chair; w ill have nelt - an instrument in the xce ent, that unlikely the company grand stand. stinalead t w o e a ra dd s t a ha e t the arrange. D3elncti: gratifying a t t h i fay iChester e conveyedenab to and from without other annoyance or confusion than ,1 5 c 0 a ,0 i 50,000 persons t, an wi t were e a r o e necessarily arose from the general rush for the station after the termination of the races. THURSDAY'S RACE 3. mile. with ( 2 1 3 0 The Scurry Handicap of h sreseciar sous. each, or a ,3 ft, added, for a ll ages. Three-quarters s 1 8 . s. t . . 4 . .. b ... . ( . i c o A r . (3 D h a n tn y )) übs 6st ...(D. Doyle) 3 Mr S . Mo .) r r i s 's vv, s r i eml u s o n hl g ai e si r sa f er o sp r , de2,r Harper, y, r yrs, , .;„ l o r r . d o C w l e i f a d , e s n Lord Chesterfield's Senorita, 3 yrs, 6st 81o...(Welle) 4 1 Mr. Davies 's GaYlad, 6 yre, Bat 41b ...(Whitehouse) 0 Mr. Jaques's Vivaniierp; 4 yrs, 7st 101b...(FleAnant) 0 Mr. Griot is Lady Speedy, 5 yra, 7st 21b (Arnold) 0 Mr. Clarke's The Niece, 4 yrs, 7st 21b ......(Cowap) 0 Mr J. Osbarne's Puritan. 3 yrs, 6st 81) ...(Carroll) 0 BAting-2 t;) 1 avt Slriorita, 7 to 2 agst Mola,t,r9, an:i sto 1 agAt Vivaudiere. A very fine race with the first four, Hungerford, who only got up in the last three or four strides, winning by half a neck. Run in 1 min. 16 sec. The Selling Stakes of 5 sovs. each, with 30 added; three year oldi, fist; four, 9st 6113; five, lOst; six and aged, 10st 31b; mares and geldings allowed 31b; win ners extra. The winner to be sold for 200 sovs., and allowances if to be sold for less. Once round and a distance. (4 &rel.) Mr. Stebbing's Sir C. Napier, 6st 41b (301.) (T. Smith) 1 Mr. Brown's Lucy, aged, Bst 4lb (301.) (Flintoff) 2 Mr. Mangan's Tancred, 4 yrs, Bst 41b (501.) (Keegan) 3 Lord Newport's Lady Bibina, Bst 41b (301.) (Marlow) 4 Betting —Even on Sir Charles Napier, and 3 to 1 agst Tancred. Won very cleverly by a length. Run in 2 min. 4 sec. The winner was sold by auction for 801. The Dee Stakes of 10 sovs. each, with 200 added by the proprietors of the Grand Stand; for three yrs old, colts, Bst 71b; fillies, Bst 21b; the second to receive 50 sovs. out of the stakes, and the winner pay 25 sove. towards expenses. Grosvenor Course. (66 Subs.) Lord Westminster's Attack (Charlton) 1 General Anson's Princess colt • (F. Butler) 2 Lord Caledon'h Kiteflyer The following also started, but w ere not placed:— Baron Rothschild's Hyacinth (Templeman) 0 Mr. G. Barton's Bethgelert (G. Oates) 0 Lord Clifden's Sackbut ....(J. Masson) 0 Duke of Bedford's Hesperus (Rogers) 0 Lord Eglinton's Pelopidas (Marlow) 0 Mr. Fowler's Purser (Whitehouse) 0 Mr. Magenis's Caloric (J . Sharpe) 0 Mr. Morris's The Suttler Mr. J. Osborne's Merry Bird (J. Osborne, jun.) 0 Mr. Payne 's Wingenund (Flatman) 0 Mr. Worthington's Jessica (Basham) 0 Mr. Worthington's Raebete (Arnold) o Betting-5 to 2 agst Merry Bird, 3to 1 agst Attack, 5 to 1 apt Princess colt, 5 to 1 agst Hyacinth, 10 to 1 agst Kiteflyor, and 100 to 8 agst Beibgelert. Won by half a neck, half a length between the second and third; Hyacinth, Sackbut, Rachete, and Merry Bird next in a cluster. Run in 2 min. 14 sec. Toe Marquis of Westminster's Plate of 100 sous., added to a handicap sweepstakes of 10 sous. each, for all ages (two yrs old excepted). Grosvenor Course. (26 Subs.) Lord Clifden's Poodle, 3 yrs, sst 61b (Sherrard) 1 Mr. Dawson's Italian, 5 yrs, 7st 81b (Lye) 2 Lord Waterford's Lancaster, 3 yrs, sst 81h(D. Doyle) 3 Mr. Russell's lanthe, 4 yrs, 7st 41b (Charlton) 4 Mr. Moseley's Alonzo, 5 yrs, Bst 21b (Simpson) 5 Lord Caledon's Sister to Wanota (T. Sherwood) 6 Betting-5 to 4 agat Poodle, 3 to 1 agat Lancaster, and sto 1 each agst lanthe and Alonzo. Won easily by half a length, two lengths between second and third, and a length between third and fourth. Run in 2 min. 18 sec. The Dee Stand Cup of 50 sovs., added to a sweepstakes of 5 sovs. each; the second to save his stake. _ _ Lord Waterford's The Marquis, Bst 5113 (J. Doyle) 1 Mr. Meiklam's Evadne, 3 yrs, Est 81b (Aldcroft) 2 Mr. Clarke's The Niece, 4 yrs, 7st 21b (Cowap) 3 Mr. Hargreaves's Osbaldeston, Bst 101b...(Denman) 0 Lord Chesterfield's Humphrey, 7st 81b...(Flatman) 0 Mr. Flintoff's The Reaper, 4 yrs, 7st 71b...(We115) 0 Mr. J. Osborne's Lady Agnes, 6st 121 b (J. Osborne) 0 Mr. Jepson's Bess of Hardwicke, Est 81b...(Kendall) 0 Mr. Morris's The Suttler, 3 yrs, 6st 41b...(T. Smith) 0 Betting-6 to 4 agst Evadne, 4to 1 each agst Marquis and Humphrey, 5 to 1 agst Lady Agnes, and 8 to I agst The Suttler. Won by a neck, half a neck between the second and third. Evadne had a very bad start or she would have won. Run in 1 min. 34 secs. Second Year of the First Triennial Produce Stakes of 10 sovs. each, h ft, with 50 - added, for three yrs old; colts, Bst 91b; fillies, Bst 51b; 31b and 61b allowed, &c. The winner to pay 10 sovs. to the fund. From the Castle Pole, once round and in. (10 Subs ) Mr. J. Osborne's Merry Bird, .Bst 216 walked over. DERBY BETTING AT SIX O'CLOCK. 6to 1 agst Hobbie Noble 46 to 1 agst Joe Miller 8 to 1 agst Alcoran 16 to 1 agst Kingston 11 to 1 agst Claverhouse 25 to 1 agstKing of Trumps 13 to 1 agst Stockwell 30 to 1 agst Orelio 14 to 1 agst Alfred the Great 33 to 1 agst Homebrewed 15 to 1 agat Little Harry CHESTER CUP.—Some erroneous reports having been circulated with regard to the time occupied in transmit ting the result to town, it is due to the officers of the Electric Telegraph Company to state that the horses did not start until a quarter past four, and that the message was not delivered at the telegraph station for 12 or 14 minutes after. It reached the London stations in about eight minutes. NAVAL INTELLIGENCE. His Grace the Dake of Northumberland held a levee at the Admiralty at Whitehall yesterday for the recep tion of flag-officers, and it was attended by the follow ing: Admiral Thomas Le Marchant Gosselin. Rear-Admirals—Robert Wauchope, Sir James Stir ling, lierculcs Robinson, Bertio C. Cator, and Sir Henry Hart, K.C.H. COURT-MARTIAL ON THE SURVIVORS OF THE BIRKENHEAD. PORTSMOUTH, THURSDAY.—The inquiry into they OSS of this vessel was resumed on board the flag-ship Vic tory this morning, when . additional evidence was given by Mr. Edward Wilson, the boatswain's mate, who was washed off the paddle-box, and, with 14 others, got ashore on the sponson ; by George Till (coxswain of the cutter, containing the women and children, and com manded by the master's-assistant, Mr. Richards, one of the prisoners on trial), who said the other cutter was a ten-oared boat, his was only an eight-oared boat—he had as many in his boat as she would hold, eighteen women and children and fourteen men; by John Lewis, coxswain of the first cutter, wbo stated that boat was also full, having thirty-seven souls in her; and by Mr. C. K. Renwick, the second engineer. The last-named gentleman threw some light on the actual circumstances attending, and the effects resulting from, the ship's running on the rocks. lie said, " I was assistant-en gineer on board the Birkenhead on the day she struck, and was at the time sleeping in my cot. The Engines were stopped. Mr. Whyham, the chief engineer, and his assistants, Mr. Kitchingman and Mr. Barber, were in the engine-room at the time orders were given to re verse the engines, which was done, and continued till the water rose and put out the fires. The fires were put out in consequence of the rapidity with which the water rose in the engine-room. We took the injection from the bilge, but it had no effect in lessening the water. Mr. Whyham reported to the Captain that the fires were out, and the Captain sent for me, and asked if nothing more could be done. I answered that the water was making three or four feet a minute. I then proceeded on to the poop, and witnessed the efforts made to get the port paddle-box boats out. The safety valves about a minute after I entered the engine-room were eased to take the shock off." By the President—l am of opinion that the " back turn" hastened the crisis of the wreck by rending the bilge of the vessel and admitting an immense flow of water. After the back turn I heard the rending of the iron plates. If the back turn of the ship had not been given, I believe the framework of the vessel would have remained intact for some time—at least sufficient to have enabled the paddle box boats to have been got clear. The flow of water was not very great in the engine room before the back turn was given, but it was in the fore part of the vessel. She struck very severely after the back turn—a second time. I do not believe the back turn made a second hole, but extended the previous rent. The ship was divided below by bulkheads into comp artments; the fore and aft ones were sub-divided, and were water tight. I conceived that the whole of the fore divisionsw eet one by the bilge being "buckled" up the whole e e re e m n a t d o e f the forward part. By Captain Chads—l considered that the hole was made in the fore part of that bilge of th e es e vsel. The I ma in and after compartments, had they rmained intact, ought to have resisted the flow of water. The midshi m ain division was filled in five or six minutes after the ship's striking, which was ?eased by the extension of the fracture forward. I believe that the action of the swell with the motion given by the engines to have shifted the vessel in such a way as to give her a fm.. crum ; she thus rested on the rock and broke her back. I do not know of any misconduct on the part of the prisoners. By the prisoner Mr. Richards—l do not consider you could have landed without staving the boats. I did not see any a ppearance of a landing place. I co ns id ered that the second c utter had as many people in h er as s h e could carry with safety. master of the Vi c t ory , de ear, William Robert Madge, posed that the Birkenhead was swung under his direc t i on , on the 15 th of February, when s h e go t a new stan dard compass; she was also swung before that, on th e 22d of October, 1850. By the President—The commander of the vessel was sup plied with the re su lt. S he was also swung here by Mr. Thompson, the late ma s t er . I think she had been swung at Greenhithe by Captain Johnson.staton. I do not think she has b een at any f ore i gn (Witness was then requested to look at the chart, and state whe ther he would steer such a course as that marked down.) It depends on the deviation; if it had been easterly it would not haye cleared the point; butifbit were westerly, it would have c l eare d th e inner point would depend very.greatly on circum ty two miles. It s been any swell or a curren t, I . ances; had there _ t not have taken that course; if it had been smooth, I might have taken that course. This concluded the first trial. The court was then cleared for deliberation,land after remaining closed about two hours was reopened, when the Judge -Advocate read the following finding:— " The Court have to observe, in the first place, that from the unfortunate circumstance of the master com • mending and the principal officers of the ship having perished they feel that it is in the highest degree diffi cult, and that it mi g ht b e unjust to pass censure upon the deceased, whose motives for keeping so near tho shore cannot be explained; but they must record their opinion that this fatal loss was owing to the course having been calculated to keep the land in close proxi mity. If such be the case, they still are not precluded from speaking with praise of the departed, for the cool ness which they displayed in the moment of extreme peril, and for the laudable anxiety shown for the safety of the woman and children to the exclusion of all sel fish con s id erat i ons. With respect to th e prisoners tr*te d under the authority of this order, the Court, havi e ng th i e s ma turely and deliberately weighed and considered whole of the evidence, is of opinion that no Mr. bla me Row imputable to them and doth adjudge land Bevan Richards, and John Bowefntlh.l John Asbolt, and Abel Stone to be accordingly. Another °s a qu i Thomast te d p , u a n n u ci they are hereby fully acquitted accor Another court-martial will assemble to-morrow, to try S U N • the remainder of the EVrkenhead's officers e.hd chip* company saved fr om th e wreck. The Comte d'Aquila and suite, after being conducted. round the dockyard yesterday, were conveyed in , the Port-Admiral's barge to the Sa:lyport-stairs, when the Neapolitan fig was saluted w ith.2l guns. Hisßoy Highness put up at the George Hotel. This mornine 74 Vi:PAM2I . his Royal Highness embarked from the Bing's-stairs in the dockyard for the Royal Clarence-yard, where Cap tain Superintendent Sir E. Parry, Mr. Davies, R.N. (master-attendant), and Mr. Tinhorn (storekeeper), re. ceived him, and conducted him over that establishment. From the Clarence-yard his Royal Highness went is the barge (Commander Boyle) to the RoyarNaval Hospital at Haslar, also under the superintendence of Sir Ed ward Parry, which place they left about half-past twelve o'clock, and embarked on board the steam-tender Sprightly, Mr: George Allen, acting-mWer, command ing, and went cut to Spitbead, with the Neapolitan flag flying, which was again saluted by 21 guns from the flag-ship. His Highness visited the Prince Regent, 90, Captain Harris, under a royal salute and manned yards, and, after inspecting her, left at 1 50 under similar ceremonies for Ryde, Isle of Wight. The Commander-in-Chief struck his flag and went on short leave on Tuesday evening. The Queen, 116, came in yesterday, and went along side the Caroperdown, to turn over her officers and crew previous to being docked. -- ~? .~ The Encounter, 14, Captain Gordon, has been paid Rages down to six mouths to-day, by Mr. Underwood, Master-Attendant of the dockyard, for the Admiral Superintendent. The Queen, 116, Captain Wise, was hauled into the angle docks to-day, to have her defects made good, and to refit her rigging. The Highflyer, 21, Captain Matson, went out to Spit head to-day. DEVONPORT, MAY s.—Sir Charles Hotham arrived on Monday, and put up at Elliot's Hotel, Plvmoutb. On Tuesday afternoon he embarked on board the Vixen, when she got under weigh, went out of harbour, and proceeded at once to sea. The Leander was taken out of No. 5 dock on Mon day evening, and went alongside the sheer-hulk; her fore and main masts, and bowsprit, were put in on Tuesday, and she is now alongside the yard to complete her repairs. Bombay, 84, advance-ship, was taken into No. 5 dock this :morning, and her bottom cleaned. She will be taken out to-morrow morning. Britomart drew her charts for the coast of Africa this morning, and sailed for her destination. Lieutenant Richmond Moore has been appointed to her Majesty's steam-sloop Buzzard, fitting at Devonport. APPOINTMENTS. o M hn aar ß 6 e .— rti C e (18 W 38 0 ) OL W and l C H J , 13 M O M S t a o l:l r d e ( r 5 185 E 1 d ) in t u o nd th N e Guard. acr Coast The Hercules troop-ship still remains at moorings at Greenhithe, and it is said a number of men from the Fisgard, with several riggers from Woolwich Dockyard, will be sent down to Greenhithe to lighten her and allow her crew, the greater part of whom belong to the Queen, to proceed to Portsmouth to be paid, down to the pre sent time, as the latter vessel is not to be paid off. ROYAL MARlNES.—Captain March, of the Woolwich division, is under orders to proceed to Portsmouth for embarcation and service in the Queen, 115, at that port. The following has just been issued from the Royal Marine-office, dated May 3, 1852: " The corps of the Royal Marines being short of the regulated establishment, the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty are pleased to direct that the indulgence of discharge by purchase bo for the present suspended, and the names of applicants registered for future consi deration, agreeably to the provision of the board order of February 27, 1840." A communication has been forwarded to the head quarters of the four divisions, notifying that the Queen's birthday will be held on Thursday, the 13th inst. FINE ARTS. THE RAILWAYS IN GREAT BRITAIN. A Map designed by Z. Macaulay. Second Edition. Smith and Ebbs. Upon the occasion of its first appearance we well remember calling public attention to this really re markable evidence of the forethought, the industry, and the ingenuity of Mr. Zachary:Macaulay. Ap preciating, as we then did, the importance of the work as one tending to systematize the whole of the intricate network of the railway-system, we are by no means surprised to find that it has already attained the dignity of a second edition. From this circum stance, however, we may now somewhat reasonably conclude that this " Station Map of the. Railways in Great Britain" has resolved itself into the only offi cial, and consequently the only authoritative and re cognised chart of the English railroads. The first attempt of any magnitude made in this direction, it promises to remain as it has done hitherto without u competitor. Macaulay's Railway Map must, in fact, henceforth be regarded entirely without a rival in its particular department, as Kelly's Post office Directory is as a guide-book to the metropolis. Tne accuracy of the former, moreover, is guaranteed beyond the possibility of misapprehension—the whole of the different lines of railway being "corrected by the respective companies." Apart from the interest of the publication as affecting railway matters, it pos sesses a very peculiar value as being among the number of the best maps of England ever published The scale upon which it is produced being ten miles to the inch, it becomes obvious at once that it affords every desi rable opportunity for distinctness. Added to its ori ginal merits, we observe, in the " second edition," a variety of highly meritorious improvements. What ever changes or additions have been made since the first issue of the map, in regard to the various lines of railway, are scrupulously attended to, up to the latest moment before publication. Each company's line is differently . coloured so, as to be immediately distinguishable. Every station is plainly marked out and lettered. All the principal towns, all the smaller towns, and many of the more noticeable villages in Great Britain (whether near or far away from a railway), are clearly indicated. The outlines of the various coun ties are dotted down. Every port, creek, or inlet on our coasts is defined, as well as every one of our principal channels for inland navigation. By those interested in railway matters, and in deed by everyone at all engaged in mer. cantile transactions, Macaulay's Railway Map will be found almost inestimable as a work of refe rence. While it reflects the highest credit upon the projector, it appears (from the very adroitness with which he has been enabled to carry out his design) to have found its fittest author in a gentleman en gaged at the Railway Clearing House—that u t central . es t ablishment from t he creation of Order o ut of Confusion—in ecretary. the responsible position COURT CIRCULAR. ThewithQueen re-entered the ball-room, his Royal Highness Prince Albert, after supper 011 Wednesday n i g ht, at twenty minutes past twel ve ' c ma i ne d until two o'clock, joini ng o lock, and re the deems. occasionally in some of Her Majesty and his Royal Highness re tired from the state roo ms at Prince Albert two Highnesses the Duch ess of Cambridge , a n d th e P r i ncess o'clock. Th e i r R oya l Mary, and his Royal Highness took their depart ure at the the D a k e o f C am b r id ge same time; dancing then ceased, and th e b a ll concluded , having all quitt e d B the rema i n i ng v i s i tor s uc ic Ingham Palaces before three o'clock y es t er d ay Her Majesty enmorninet. d his R attended by the of Royal High ness Prince Albert, Mary Countess ' Charlemont, the Honourable Seymour, the Hono ura bl e M at i l d a P age t, Lord Honourable r Charlca Fitzroy, and Lieut.-Colonel the A. Gordon, honoured the Royal Italian Opera with th • His en. presence last evening. Royal Highness Prince Albert, attended by the Marquis of Abercorn , Viscount Mandeville , Captain Francis Seymour, and Lieutenant-Colonel the Hon. A. Gordon,, went, sh or tly before twelve o'clock y esterda y , to De present at t h e commemoration Choral Festival of the Choir Benevolent Fund, in Westminster Abbey. His Royal Highness returned to Buckingham Palace at a quarter before three o'clock. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent visited the Queen yesterday at Buckingham Palace, and partook of luaeheon with her Majesty and Prince Albert. Their Royal Highnesses the Prince of Wales, the Princess Royal, and the younger members of the Royal Family, took their usual riding and walking exercise yesterday. Their Royal Highnesses the Duchess of Cambridge and the Princess Mary, attended by Lady Suffield and Baron Knesebeck, dined with her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent yesterday, at Clarence House, St. James's. In the cunning her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent, accompanied by the Duchess of Cam bridge and the Princess Mary, honoured Her Majesty s Theatre with her presence. Lady Fanny Howard was in waiting on the Duchess of Kent. His Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge bad " interview yesterday with Mr. Secretary Walpole at the Home-office. yesterday The Sardinian Minister had an inter view wit the Earl of Derby, at his official res idence in Dorl; ing-street. The Earl of March bad also an interne with the Noble Earl. e Health for the A deputation from the Local Board o hm , en interview District of Rusholene, near M'nebesteeri Health, at their yesterday with the General Board consisted of the fol- Offices, Whitehall. The deputation _ c d ..... Mr. W. R. alleeder lo wing members of the loos' boar . Me. min _ and Mr. W. EntwiEtle, attended by w• . Burdett lceai hoard ). The deputation were i (law clerk to the . &iced by Mr. Brotherton M p accompanied and intro al James Kershaw , ' ' " Gibson. NX, r• M.p., Mr. Milner . _ and Mr. J. P. Westhead , ,1 - 1 .. r , . The Baron De Teisser had an interview yesterday w ith Mr. Secretary Walpole at the 110,e-office. Lord Robert Grosvenor and a deputation had an in terview the Earl of Derby - terview With yesterday, at his official residence in Downing-street. A deputation, consisting of Sir Robert H. Inglis, the Ray. Henry Veen (Secretary of the Church Missionary Society), and the Rev. Peter La T b United Brethren), had an ro e (Secretary of the interview with Sir John '3 P a kington yesterday at t h e C l Mr. John Wood, Chairman of Inland am of the Board Revenue, had an interview with the Earl of Derby yes terday. Lord Naas had Earl. also an interview with the Noble Mr. Pressly h a d an interview with the Chancellor of the Excheq uer yesterdaY) at his officia residence in Downing-street. 3D Of ' l d li ell oo) be of r of bad 100'