The Sun. — London, England, 1852-11-26 00:00:00

tibtrb nbitiolt+ Sun Office, 7 o'clock. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS—(THIS EVENING.) The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack at 5 o'clock. T he Earl of DONOGHMORE gave notice that he should, on Tuesday, present a petition complaining of t he city of Cork election. TIE NORM AMERICAN FISHERY QUESTION. In answer to a question from Lord Wharncliffe, "ortll. l4rd MALMESBURY sa id th a t th e question of the h Ameri can Fi s h er i es ha d occup i e d th e attention or Government for the last five months. He assured t he noble lord that so far as her Majesty's Government were concerned, the misunderstanding which had taken P l ace had not arisen either from the orders given to the :Mcer s o f her Majesty's Navy on that station, or from In i ? ne w interpretation put by her Majesty's Govern lit on the treaties of 1818. He could not exactly say g h at was th e cause of that misunderstan di ng, b u t so f ar I t he alt era ti on in the naval force was concerne d, which seemed to have been the more immediate occasion of it, it was taken simply as a means of giving Inerea4 ed efficiency to the force which watched over the Protection of British interests. It was a mere matter of P °li ce, and so far as the number of guns were concerned, a ' .3 actually s ma ll er th an b e f ore . Before that altera -611 was made, he had given notice to the American t . t erriment of his intention. At present, the negotia tions w ere in such a state as to oblige him to refuse 3' request to lay the papers and correspond say,eo°ll the table of the house. In fact, he might ,_that the negotiations were only just begun. Mr. - Webst er had before his death earnestly embraced the g p o ? a ° t . s i a l of her Majesty's Government to enter into ne -6 d isputes upon a much wider field, including not only "lePutes with reference to the fisheries, but also the o:lleetstebjr : e t of our trade to the Canadas, and to our °ther colonies. From the moment he had written the first had acted throughout in a friendly spirit enneiliation, and had expressed his anxious wish shortly before his death that these two countries should e Z ill ne on terms of friendly intercourse with each entr y, -Dr 44-is death was greatly to be deplored by this 11 -141 7, but more peculiarly at the present moment, o .. 11 , 1 , t had led to the interruption of the negotiations (1.4 "711 he was engaged. Up to the present time he f ° h r ."' M alinesbury) had received no official intelligence of 18 successor having been appointed. From Presi dentnrnore he had received the warmest assurances ez good ' w ishes towards this country, and in fact with the ception of that first letter which appeared to have been written i n a moment of excitement, while Mr. Webster haaBW suffering from the effects of his sicknes, every desire bee n eo ees to S hown by the United States to bring the differ be an amicable termination. At the proper moment sho uld feel great sa ti s f act i on i n l a ying the papers on the Their of the h ouse , b u t at present he must decline. "eir• lordships then adjourned. he --- ' OF COMMONS—(THIS EVENING.) ,), c'el ock "."‘Eß took the chair at a few minutes to 4 kr F NEW WRITS. • MACKENZIE moved for new writs for gOb~don, Bury St. Edmunds, the city of Durham, and 0 4111 . Agre e d t o . the m ot i on of Mr. HAYTER, a new wr it was ' 3611 for Peterborough. Sir j PETITIONS. • • SHELLEY presented a petition from the liatentee s of the conical flour mills, praying for an inquiry 14 to the merits of the invention. J.,„•! r ° 36 % MACKENZIE presented a petition from e rPool, si gne d b y 20,000 p erson s, praying for the in -BPection of nunneries. (Laughter.) , ah . e°l . GILPIN presented two petitions from Bedford alf,e against the grant to Maynooth, and also in favour t he freedom of election in Ireland. 4 r. BRIGHT presented a petition from the Commer cial Association at Manchester, praying for the immediate ab olitio n of the protective duty on British silk manu facture. (Hear.) ELECTION PETITIONS. The SPEAKER informed the house that he had received intimation from the petiti oners aga i nst t h e return for D urham, that it was not their intention to proceed with' theypetition ; al so th a t th e E xam i ner of Recognizances '44 reported that the recognizances of the petitioners 1/44inst the return for Plymouth were sufficient. PETITIONS. 14 r. T. DUNCOMBE presented a petition from the ketropolifor the liberation of Edward Murray. Lord L praying - D. STUART presented a similar petition. A DMISSION OF THE PUBLIC TO ST. PAUL'S. 1 4 N the motion that the house at its using adjourn until ° T a daY next, v] ;' °ll D. STUART inquired of the Government e „ -et her any steps had been taken to obviate the in fo;ll"nience which arose from the defective arrangements ~t 11: admissi on o f th e p u bli c i n to St. Paul's ? ;.:111 question received no reply. t' k r ' GLYN complained that, in consequence of the ets being issued in Broad-street, which was in the 4 ,r of the city, great crowds collected in the vicinity, Sir much impeded the transaction of business. tt i h r 12) E L. EVANS h oped that another wee k wou ld "wed to the public for admission into the Cathedral R, O -- ATUITIES TO LETTER CARRIERS. lost T. DUNCOMBE wished to know whether the co zp,re:vil,sharo fiotr master - General had issued orders preventing letter if ti ers in the metropolis receiving Christmas-boxes, and, intention to award them any w th as e loss. Mr ' tm, HAMILTON said it was not the intention of the tro llol 7r - General to prohibit letter-carriers in the me 8-r,receiving gratuities at present. b e do DE L. EVANS suggested that gratuities should tha r i t ile aw ay with, and, that instead of depending on the of Yof themetroP olis they should have a fixed amount ki ditional Pay. SPIRITS IN BOND. 112 SPIRITS / 3 . ROCHE wished to know whether it was the in of the Chancellor of the Exchequer to . pro o - f I, ° _ se a remission of duty in regard to the evaporation mulne. b , T h -- "ue spirits in bond ? he •,.. -e CRANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER. thatsaid it : 8 sere the house would agree with him, hint not fair for him to state what were the of, - C" 8 of Gov ernmen t w i t h respec t t o th e remission oties, on the eve of a financial statement. (Hear.) -44 4,NC STATEMENT OF -1- EA ICE LLOR OF THEE XCHEQUER. THE -..., N I ~ th e I,`'' " • RUSSELL inquired when the Chancellor . of t o th7heciner proposed to make his financial statement 'louse,e pi,- . th e a --u-aNCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said if f 'ebate finished to-night, Monday was already b as t k h ed e 1 ,,, ° a % fel' business of some interest to the house ; e l ,: t°ll l that it was very probable the debate would not If h 0 conclude to-night. (C ries of t , Oh, . The h o e u°Ped himself that it would. (Hear , h ! ar :) a mo. ti o ll ; 414 learned member for Southampton, had cir - °f a Personal character for Monday, andun da der .w th e e e s h e wo°lllll°taces he thought that probably this 1114 b ' • d a y on the whole for e the most convenient kak i . ng hIS financial statement- Tlrp A'4 ADJOURNED DEBATE.—THE Mr, OF LORD ...kr Tv wyeared on the Paper to-night, appeared.. ' ACARDO said a resolution of BA. --- M M ER E ST N ON EW . wh i c h Lord w a la differently P almerston ro. posed to e the a mendment ent which he had prev i ously Sir ,Tabl.nrtaic important particulars ' had inserted, be -102 l a , '''' Graham said last n i g ht, he . the words resolutionswhpich • tended to Bu 61. the noble lord the Governmentanxious f in the two „ su pport e I ,_ 4e3' eziginally ng , the Y havi ng wi thdrawn the amendment which The ell .7„... P r oposed : Withdri, AJ4CtLLOR of the EXCHEQUER op inion -N° Il'a amendment in deference to the genera' the tabl L or of the house, preferring that the resolution of said he tion whiallrlerdon should be put, and as the only reso u h that noble lord proposed was the one now on aw ar _ 6 of the House. (Hear, hear.) He was not ('lean) " that the noble lord had prepared any other. 411. „..NTEMPLATED NATIONAL GALLERY. untended"' te . IVIxstEER inquired whether the Government to erect a National Gallery on the site ol ground latel th e _, , . y purchased by the Royal Commissioners ol Natedzinbition of 1851 ? If so, whether they contem fo th Makin an application to Parliament for a grant „ rh ° Purpose ? Axle p- A th at th e S --"-N CE LLOR of th e EXCHEQUER replied ° Port ecretary of St a t e had laid on the table the re it), the hands the Royal Co mm i ss i oners, and it would soon be hands of ientl e very membe r . Wh en th ey were suffi ti- r a cgilainted with the contents, he proposed to call thate reportattention of the hou se to the recommendations of , and lid sho u ld then feel it his duty to pro sth a vote • e 0. , ect to but it would not b e applied specifically to j which the hon. member had adverted. Mr, M OORS NO TICE OF MOTION . the recess,gave notice tt, on an ear day ter he should move the h a a ly after ppointment of a select ,"".--~~ TR committee on the subject of the Established Church in Ireland. SAVINGS BANKS. On the motion of Mr. BROTHERTON, returns were ordered of the total number of deposit accounts open in savings banks in more names than one on the 20th day of November, 1852, and the total amount as the credit of such accounts ; distinguishing the accounts opened before the 20th day of November, 1844, from those opened since that date ; showing, year by year, in totals for each year, when such accounts were first opened, and the total amount then placed at their credit. And, showing the distribution of such accounts, on the 20th day of November, 1852, into the several classes set forth n the classification for the annual return to the 20th day of November, 1851. RELIGIOUS TESTS. In reply to Mr. MONCREIFF, Mr. WALPOLE stated that it was not the intention of the Government to bring in a bill to abolish religious sts in the universities of Scotland. Mr. MONCREIFF gave notice that immediately after the Christmas recess he should move for leave to bring in a bill on the subject. COUNTY COURTS. In reply to a question, Mr. WALPOLE stated that Government had it in contemplation to extend the jurisdiction of the courts for the recovery of small debts. CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS. The SPEAKER acquainted the house that in pursu- ance of the Act of Parliament he had nominated the committee of selection for controverted elections, and ordered a list to be prepared of the names of members who were exempted either by age or otherwise from serving on Election Committees. Mr. FRENCH said, there were 117 petitions already presented, and he should therefore object to members being exempt from serving who were under 60 years of age, other than her Majesty's Cabinet Ministers. SIR HENRY BULWER'S MISSION TO ROME. In reply to a question from an honourable member, Lord STANLEY said, Sir Henry Bulwer went to Rome to investigate the ease of Edward Murray ; and while he was in the holy city the honourable baronet had several interviews with members of the Papal Go vernment on other subjects of interest to the country ; but as these interviews were of a private character, he did not feel himself justified to lay their results before the house. THE CASE OF EDWARD MURRAY. In reply to Lord DUDLEY STUART, Lord STANLEY stated that the life of Edward Murray had been saved, and his sentence commuted by the Papal Government from punishment of death to banishment for life. THE NEW FOREST. In reply to a question, Mr. HAMILTON stated that a report on the sub ject of the New Forest would be laid on the table to night, while the claims of those parties to compensation on account of the removal of the forest were now under the consideration of the Government. FEES AT THE GENERAL ELECTION. On the motion of Mr. PHINN, a return was ordered of all fees, disbursements, or expenses charged by any returning officer or his deputy, or by any sheriff, under- sheriff, sheriff clerk or sheriff's officer, clerk of the peace or town clerk, to any person returned to serve in the present Parliament for any county, division of a county, city, borough, district or place, or to any candidate seek- ing to represent any county, division of a county, city, borough, district or place, in the United Kingdom. Also a return of all sums received by any returning officer or his deputy, or by any sheriff, under-sheriff, sheriff clerk or sheriff's officer, clerk of the peace or town clerk, in respect of such fees, disbursements, or ex penses, from any person so returned, or from any candi date so seeking to represent any county, division of a county, city, borough, district or place. ST. PAUL'S. In reply to Sir DE L. EVANS, Lord J. MANNERS said that he did not feel him self justified in calling upon the Dean and Chapter of St. Paul's to extend the period which had already been fixed upon for opening St. Paul's to the public with the funeral fittings. OUR COMMERCIAL POLICY.—THE AD JOURNED DEBATE. On the motion for resuming the adjourned debate, Mr. M. GIBSON said he wished to say a few words on the subject of the resolution proposed by his honour able friend the member for Wolverhampton. He repu diated the notion that the original resolution was in tended as a vote of want of confidence in the Govern ment, and insisted that its object was to perpetuate the principles of free trade. He, therefore, found fault with those who had ventured to character ;€l it as a vote of want of confidence. No one, it would seem, could dispute the affirmation of the resolution that the law of 1846 was a just and wise measure, and he was at a loss to un derstand how any one could object to it, or take exception to it on the ground that he had already stated. But he took exception to the views of those who affirmed of the principles propounded in 1846, simply because free trade had produced cheapness of provisions. He could not consent to that mode of dealing with the question. Such a mode of argument would justify confiscation, for confiscation might, under some circumstances, produce momentary prosperity, but he must contend that, looked at from every point of view, free trade had been just and righteous, and he could not possibly bring himself to the amendment of the noble lord the member for Tiverton. It would seem, however, that the object of the noble lord was to save the feelings of hon. members who supported the Govern ment, but he for one was at a loss to understand how the Protectionists could agree to the amendments, and yet not accept the original resolution. The amend ment called upon Protectionists to affirm not that the free trade policy of 1846 was wise and just, but that under all the circumstances it had been sound and politic, and for the life of him he could not see why the one, as well as the other should not be equally accept able to honourable gentlemen. Well, then how were they to choose between the two ? Why in this way —they were both pretty similar in spirit, though not in detail, but the one proposed by the hon. and learned member for Wolverhampton, would be more acceptable to the couutry than that of the noble lord the member for Tiverton. They would not do their duty to the memory of Sir R. Peel if from any mistaken morbid sentimentality, they refused on this solemn occasion to record that the measure which he advocated was not a - wrong, nor a great public mischief, but was founded on the eternal principles of justice. This was after all a great question, and it was absurd to agree to the proposal of the noble lord, for the purpose of showing a general unanimity which it was well known did not in fact exist. They wanted to shew the world that the policy of free trade was not based on low considerations, but on the principles of civil right and justice. If the house shrunk from declaring that the policy was wise and just, the people would be induced to believe that the House of Commons was rotten. After all, the House of Commons long laboured under the influence of the landed interest, on the question of protection. If there was an appearance of rottenness now in the house, they might depend upon it, that no thing would strengthen so much the cry of Parliamen tary Reform, for the general opinion would be, if the words in question were omitted, that the representation was not a reflex of the public opinion, and that some covert attempt might be made to restore the nefarious system of monopoly. (Hear, hear.) He therefore hoped that hon. members would rally round his hon. and learned friend, for neither the noble lord (Palmerston) nor the Chancellor of the Exchequer had any claim to take the quostion out of his hands. Let every honest free-trader vote for his motion, and he would undertake to say that their constituents would approve of their conduct. (Cheers.) Mr. M. GASKELL thought the allusion of the right hon. gentleman to the question of Parliamentary reform was the best explanation that could be given of the na ture of the motion proposed by the hon. and learned member for Wolverhampton. (Cheers from the Govern ment benches.) He was convinced that so far from as serting a great public principle, there was reason what ever for the motion. (Cheers.) There was a very serious difference between the two resolutions for whereas while the amendment simply affirmed that free trade had succeeded in producing the present prosperity of the country, the other went on to add that the conduct of those who opposed Sir Rober:; Peel in 1846 was unjust and uncalled for. The arguments of those who opposed the amendment were somewhat strange ; they declared that the Earl of Derby had no principles whatever, and therefore his friends ought to abandon hi m . Now it was somewhat strange that those who held this line of argument were not quite settled in their own minds as to their own policy. (Hear.) He should be the last man to impugne the motives of the late Sir Robert Peel in passing the repeal of the corn laws, but must be allowed to take exception to the manner in which that measure was w te as etin r n et . nrnep t the and ro carried,to was therefore unjust at that time to adopt free . P n a n r t liam tn ent rev o e trade without an appeal to the country, and to that extent he took exception to the conduct of the late Sir Robert Peel. (Hear, hear.) But the House of Commons now met under very different circumstances-- it was returned to affirm the principles of free trade, and he for one was quite willing to bow to the decision of the country upon that great question as it was enun ciated in the amendment of the noble lord the member for Tiverton, though he was not prepared to throw that blame and censure upon the country party for their conduct in 1846, which the original resolution of the hon. and learned member for Wolverhampton implied, if it did not in fact distinctly affirm. 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The real qnestion at issue was between a Government prepared to carry out the eommercial policy of 1846, and a set of gentlemen who were agreed upon this point, certainly, but between whom, on other points, there was irreconcileable, endless, and vital diffe rences. (Loud cheers.) Mr. S. HERBERT said that whatever might be his vote on this question, he had certainly had made up his mind, irrespective of any considerations with regard to the fate of the Government. It had been said on both sides of the house that this was a vote of want of confi dence in the Government, but if so, he never before had seen a motion of want of confidence worded as this was. (Cheers.) He was glad to see that the Government party opposite had abandoned protection as a policy, he always knew that the time would come when it would do so. [LEFT SPEAKING.] THE LONDON GAZETTE. (THIS EVENING.) WAR-OFFICE, Nov. 2G. 6th Regiment of Dragoons—Acting Assistant-Surgeon Henry Charles Boate to be Assistant-Surgeon, vice Logie, promoted on the Staff, Nov. 23. 3d Foot—Assistant-Surgeon Edgar Dumaresq Batt, from the 13th Foot, to be Surgeon, vice Reade, appoint ed to thr Staff, Nov. 26. 6th Foot—Captain! Henry Phillips, from half-pay un attached, to be Captain, vice Cruice, who exchanges, receiving the difference ; Lieutenant Henry Pratt Gore to be Captain, by purchase, vice Phillipps, who retires ; Ensign Walter Tyler Bartley to be Lieutenant, by pur chase, vice H. P. Gore, Nov. 26. 96th Foot—Captain Henry Bagshawe Harrison Rocke from the 31st Foot, to Captain, vice Eardley Wilmot, who exchanges, Nov. 26. 13th Foot—Assistant-Surgeon Frederick Clarke, from the 25th Foot, to be Assistant-Surgeon, vice Batt, pro moted in the 3rd Foot. Nov. 26. 24th Foot—Ensign Samuel John James Burns to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Drew, who retires, Nov. 26. 25th Foot—Acting Assistaut-Surgeon Watkin San dom Whylock, M.D., to be Assistant-Surgeon, vice Clarke, appointed to the 13th Foot. Nov. 26. 31st Foot—Captain Charles Octavius Eardley Wilmot, from the 96th Foot, to be Captain, vice Rocke, who exchanges, Nov. 26. 41st Foot—Captain James Eman to be Major, by purchase, vice Seaton, who retires, Nov. 28. Lieutenant Honourable Ricbard Handcock to be Captain, by purchase, vice Eman. Nov. 26. Ensign Henry Stratton Bush, to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Handcock. Nov. 26. 34th Foot—Ensign John Richard Hume to be Lieu tenant, by purchase, vice Feilden, who retires—Thomas Maude Roxby Gent„ to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Mackinnon, appointed to the 64th foot, Nov. 26. 64th Foot—Ensign David 'Mortimer Murray to be Lieutenant, by pure hase, vice Hood, who retires ' • En sign Walter Carr Mackinnon, from the 55th Foot, to be Ensign, vice Murray, Nov. 26. 82nd Foot—Staff Surgeon of the Second Class Wil liam Oord Mackenzie, M.D., to be Surgeon, vice Hume, promoted on the Star, Nov. 26. Ceylon Rifle Regiment—Captain Thomas Cochrane Hammill, from half-pay Unattached, to be Captain, vice Albert Watson, promoted, withnut purchase, to an Un attached Majority, Fov. 26. BANKRUPTS. William Northwood, cabinetmaker, Wigmore-street, Cavendish-square. Josephlck Evans, clothier, Harrow-road, Paddiugton. Joseph Taylor, grocer, Hoxne, Suffolk. Henry Fisher and Edward William Selwood, milliners and lacemen, Aldersgate-street, City. James Gazely, carpenter, King's Lynn. Thomas Crossley, commission agent, Noble-street, City. Henry Kennall, stone mason, Hastings. James Thomas Wheatley, lighterman, Cranmer-place, Waterloo-bridge-road. MARKET INTELLIGENCE. (From the London New Price Current of Nov. 26.) SUGAR.-The business transacted in colonial for home consumption has been less than for some time past, and a slight decline has taken place, although the quantity brought forward has not much exceeded that of last week, and consumption keeps favourable, with few arrivals, and stocks are far below those of 1851. To-day there was a reluctance to operate in West India Sugar for home consumption, and easier rates ac cepted, showing a decline o f full 6d per cwt as compared with last Friday. Purchases are only 495, making 1364 hhds &c. for the week, including at auction to-day 88 hhds Demerara crystalized, which sold at moderate terms, good to fine yellow at 38s 6d to 41s 6d, and ord to mid 36s to 38s per cwt. REFINED.-For Dutch orders have not been so nume rous, and a desire is evinced to sell at 24s to 27s 6d, extra 28s to 28s 6d. Belgian has been purchased with caution at 26s to 275. Treacle continues to be wanted at 15s to 15s 6d ; Bastards 21s to 228 ; pieces and wet lumps 24s to 28s. Loaves are not offered under former rates ; export orders have not been so extensive, and supply is rather larger. Turkey, Ito 5i lbs 42s to 455, Hambro 6 to 15 lbs 31 6d to 34s Od, Tittlers 22 to 39 lbs 31s, Prussian 40 to 45 lbs 29s 6d to 30s, Dutch made loaves 6 to 10 lbs 31s to 325, and Belgian 28s 6d to 29s 6d per cwt. To-day refined sugar was purchased with caution for home trade purposes brown lumps at 445, and low to fine grocery 44s 6d to 47s 6d per cwt. Crushed sugar for shipping is not much wanted, and there is a desire to sell at the rates quoted. MAURITIUS.-At auction 9,500 bags were disposed of; fine` ; yellow 36s 6d to 38s 6d, good 35s to 365, low to mid 33s to 34s 6d, good to fine brown 30s 6d to 32s 6d, mid 29s to 30s, refining 32s 6d to 375, low ditto 31s to 325. To-day there was no public sale of Mauritius sugar, and little was done privately, still holders generally re fuse to sell at a further decline. EAST INDIA.-This afternoon only small purchases were made in East India sugar privately, still rates are generally sustained. Of 566 bags Bengal at auction, a part only sold at 38s to 39s 6d for ord to very good white Benares, being barely the former value. FOREIGN.-To-day there was a quiet market for all sorts of foreign sugar, and none was offered at auction ; still the leading holders are not disposed to sell at a further decline. MOLASSES.-To-day there is much demand, and rates keep on the rise ; sales of Antigua made at 16s 6d to 17s per cwt. COFFEE.-There was a reluctance to operate in native Ceylon up to Wednesday, and rather lower rates were accepted, good ord selling at 465, and new import 46s 6d. Jamaica is in demand, low to good ord at 45s to 48s, fine ord 49s to Ms, fine fine ord to mid 52s to 595, better sorts 60s to 945, and triage 42s to 465. Stock is rather less than last year. Mocha, a good demand, low to mid clean garbled rule at 75s to 82s, good 84s to 945. This afternoon prices further advanced for Native Ceylon, and large parcels were disposed of privately at 47s to 47s 6d for good ord, whilst 750 bags at auction realised 47s 6d to 48s for real good ord. In Plantation a good deal was done privately rather above last week's terms. Of Madras 1,200 bags at auction went at stiff rates, from 45s to 58s, and very fine 60s to 645. Of Mocha 100 bales were taken in at 90s for greenish long berry, being above the value. COCOA.-Guayaquil is wanted at 34s to 36s ; but Para has been purchased with caution at 27s to 28s, and Bahia 24s 6d to 25s 6d. Trinidad is less wanted, and there being a more plentiful supply, rates have declined is to 2s per cwt. At auction 450 bags were only in part sold ; grey at 32s to 345, low to mid red 34s to 365, good to fine 37s to 40s. TEA.-There is no decided decline for low to good common Congou, yet purchases have been on a small scale at 9d to 9id per lb, and supply is more plentiful. Pekoe sorts, is to is 7d, fine to superior of the new crop is 8d to 2s 2d. Pouchong of clean quality is stili beld for 6d to 9d, but less has been done. Greeu for home consumption, better sorts in good demand at full prices, low to mid Hyson on is ld to is 4d, good to fine 1s 5d to 2s Bd, choice 2s 9d to 3s, young Hyson Can ton Bd. to 11d, Hyson kind is to is Bd, fine and superior is 5d to 2s 3d, Twakay 8d to ls, Gunpowder Canton 8d to is Hyson kind, is id to 2s 9d, fine 2s 10d to 3s 6d, Im perial Canton 10d to ls, Hyson sort 1s ld to 2s 2d, and Hyson skin 6d to Bd. Flowery Pekoe continues to at . ract little attention and there are free sellers of low to mid at is 3d to is 7d, good to fine is 8d to 3s 6d. Caper is dull of sale, boxes can be obtained at 10d to is id, and Scented 8d to is 4d. To-day there was a reluctance to operate in Tea at the public sales, which consisted ohiefly of Green and scented. The quantity offered was 5,000 pkgs, and only 500 found buyers ; in some cases rather lower rates were accepted. SPIRITS. —A greater demand [prevails for Leeward Island rum, and prices continue to advance, sales having been made at is 7d to is 72d proof. Several transac tions have taken` place in East India at is 6d to is bid being an advance, and supply is not larger. In Demerara considerable transactions have taken place at improved prices, 30 to 40 per cent over - proof selling at 2s ld to 2s 4d, but chiefly at 2s 3d. Sales of Cognac best brands of the vintage of 1851 have been made at 6s 10d to 7s, 1850 ditto 7s ld to 7s 3d, 1849 ditto 7s 4d to 7s 6d, older Geneva is much in de- mand and realizes 2s 4d' to 2s 6d, fine 2s 9d to 3s, The British spirit market is active at 9s 9d cash, Gin 22 under 8s 4d and 17 ditto at 8s 10d per gallon. At these terms there are not free sellers. TALLOW—There was a reluctance to operate at the public sales this afternoon, and the rates taken were epnal to those of Friday last. Of South American 207 cks went at 455. to 47s 9d ; 600 cks 489 bladders Aus tralian 46s to 47s 3d • 100 cks Belgian 45s 6d to 47s 6d, and 220 cks East India 48s to 49s 3d per cwt. The market for Tallow is not expected to remain long in a quiet state, stocks being far less than last year, and exports from St. Petersburg being 28,000 cks. under the former season. COURSE OF EXC. Am5terdam............ 11 17 Ditto, three months.. 11 111 3 / q Rotterdam .. Antwerp 25 42% Brussels 25 42% Hamburg. . Altona Pari5....., Ditto, three months .. 25 45 Marseilles ............ 25 45 80urdeaux.......... _— Frankfort-on-Maine .... 120% Berlin .... „ •• Vienna. • 11 46 Trieste ....... Petersburgh .......... 38 % Madrid 49% Cadiz ................ 50% Barcelona ....... ..... Seyille ANGE—Tnis DAY. Gibraltar Leghorn Genoa 25 135 Milan ....... .. - Venice . - Naples ......•• •• •• •• •• Palermo .. ...... • • • • • • Messina .... • • • • • • • • • • Lisbon...... Oporto 41% 123. N 53 1 ,4 531 i Rio Janeiro ...• •••• • • • • Buenos Ayres .......• . • New York,6o day's sight Philadelphia . •• • PRICES OF BULLION, PER OZ. Foreign Gold in Bars 23 17 9 Portugal Gold Coin.. 0 0 0 Spanish Doubloons .. 0 0 0 New Dollars.-- 0 0 0 Silver in bars .. .. .. 0 9 0 .~- -- -sue; ---~,r- RIDAY EVENIN IMPERIAL PARLI E Nl'. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—YESTERDAY. (Continued from our Third Edition of tastinight.) STATE OF PARTIES. Mr. GLADSTONE rose to say a few words with respect to the question raised by his right hon. friend, and he rose simply in the hope that anything which might fall from him might not only be of such a charac ter as to contribute to the issue of this discussion, such as should be satisfactory to the great body of the house, and the best calculated to promote the undisputed permanence of the present commercial policy of the country. (Hear, hear.) lie found that even up to that moment some progress had been made towards a settlement of the whole ques tion, and he ventured to hope that they would agree to the suggestions of his right hon. friend with regard to the insertion of certain words in the amendment pro posed by the noble lord the member for Tiverton. And then, although they would not, in point of form, be entitled to say that either the amendment of the Go vernment or the original motion should be withdrawn, yet if the concession were made they would be entitled to come to something like a common conclusion. (Hear, hear.) Now, the whole question that was before them, related to only two of the changes of policy and feeling which had taken place in the house, and it was now proposed in order to perpetuate that policy to make a change in the first resolution, from the phrase— "in a great measure," to the word " may." He did not think that any objections was to be taken to that change, and therefore he should confine himself to the words proposed to be inserted in the se cond resolution. The question for them to consider was simply what would be the bearing of those words if adopted, and the sense and meaning of the resolution so amended, namely, whether it would be agreeable to the feelings and wishes of the great body of the house? For that reason he was favourable to a motion of this nature, but at the same time he did not think it desira ble that the question of compensation should be settled in a motion directed simply to the purpose of establish ing the policy of free trade. He was not willing to pre clude the Gooternment by an anticipatory motion from bringing forward any measures which they might think fit to bring forward on this subject, He thought the most acceptable way would be for the house to adopt that course. Mr.T. BUNCOMBE said, that for the nine Parlia ments during which he had sat in the house, he never before had seen it so trifled with. First of all, they had been made fools of, just as if it had been the first of April, on Monday night last, when the motion for the call of the house had been abandoned. Ile confessed he should like to have seen the face of his hon. friend the member for Montrose when he saw in the papers that his motion had been withdrawn. (Laughter.) The quarrel, as he thought, very pretty as it stood originally, but with these amendments upon amendments, he was quite of opinion that the country would be puzzled. There was the original motion of the hon. member for Wolverhampton, and the amendment of the Government, and so far the course was plain ; but then came the motion .. - __— ----- of the noble viscount the member for Tiverton, and now they had something more recent from Carlisle. (Hear.) He should like to ask that noble lord h ow it was th a t _ _ he had become possessed of that motion from the - right hon. gentleman, the member for Carlisle ? (Laughter.) The conclusion the country would come to on the sub- ject would be, that the gentlemen below, the Whigs,---and he heartily wished that Whiggery were about to be buried with protection —were not yet ready to occupy the places of the gentlemen opposite. He supposed the hon. baronet had been re-Whigged for the occasion. (Laughter.) The best course would be to take the hon. baronet at his word, and adjourn the house, to give the right honourable gentlemen time to settle amicably their little differences. Mr. CAYLEY said it might be considered presump tuous in him to intrude himself into this discussion, but he was an old soldier in this field of controversy ; he hoped he had been a consistent one—(hear, hear)—and he wished now to state his views as to the position they were now placed in. He could state most sincerely that ever since the repeal of the corn laws in 1848, he never for a moment contemplated the re-imposition of them. (Hear, hear.) He was certain that protection had at that time got its death-blow, and that it could never be restored again. (Hear, hear.) He was confident when the hon. member for Wolverhampton gave notice of such a motion as the one he had submitted to the house, if he did not know that there was not the slightest hope of ever again restoring protection, he was the only man in that house who did not entertain such an opinion. He did not, therefore, think it fair that by the hon. and learned gentleman having submitted such a resolution to the house, he and others who thought with him, should be deprived of any outlet. He admitted that free trade had taken the place of protection, and he confessed that he should never make an attempt to re store protection, or endeavour to get compensation for those who had suffered from its abolition—(hear, hear)—and he had not the slightest idea that any mea sure of the kind was contemplated. (Hear, hear.) What he understood by the paragraph in the Queen's Speech, which had been so much talked of, was that if in ar ranging the finances of the country it was found that taxation pressed unjustly on any particular interest mea sures would be introduced by the Government for the purpose of remedying the evil. He, asked no more than that. He was willing to become amenable to the law, as it stood, and had no objection to the continuance of free trade—(hear, hear) —and he, therefore, thought it unfair that he should have addressed to him the propo sition that ho ought to recant every opinion he ever held and everything he had ever said upon that subject. (Hear.) Sitting in that house, they had perfect freedom of person, they had perfect freedom of tongue, and he was in hopes that a liberal Opposition would have per mitted them to have perfect freedom of thought. (Loud Ministerial cheers.) He did not recant any of his former opinions. (Hear, hear.) At the same time, he saw that the country was placed in a dilemma ; and he, therefore, thought if they wished to benefit the country they should allow the matter to be finally set at rest. He was quite willing to accept of the resolution sug gested by the noble lord the member for Taunton, with the additional words suggest e d b y t h e rig h t hon. baronet the member for Carlisle, in order that a resolution in favour of free trade might be placed upon the rolls of that house and he hoped hon. members would not press the discussion further. He was placed, then, in a some what anomalous position. Ile was an independent member of the house, and on the free trade question had done his best to maintain that position. He had never entertained any rancorous feeling against Sir Robert Peel, for certainly the last thing in his mind was the entertaining anything like a personal rancorous feeling against him. He might have had his doubts as to the prudence of the course he took to carry out his views, but that was all. He hoped, therefore, this useless dis cussion would be allowed to come to an end by accept ing the middle course now submitted. Mr. ROBERT PALMER Was prepared to give a di rect negative to the resolution of the honourable and learned member for Wolverhampton. In the first place he could not agree in that part of it which stated that the act of 1846 was a " wise, just, and beneficial" mea sure. He had had some experience in that house, and it was not likely that he would be made to recant opinions which for more than 26 years he had there maintained, by giving his sanction to suc h a res olution. The opinions he had formed in respect of protection to native industry had been held by men more wise than himself. He had gathered them from Canning, from Sir Robert Peel, from the noble lord, th e member for London, and from the right honourable baronet; the member for Carlisle ; and though some of these had changed their opinions, he had not. (Hear ' hear.) He was aware that the sense of the country had been decidedly against any re-imposition of protective duties, but what he was more particularly an xi ous to do w as to state that should the resolution of the noble lord the member for Tiverton be adopted in place of the resolution of the honourable member for Wolverhampton, or the amendment of the Government --and he had as yet heard no word from the Government what they were to do respecting it—he had to enter his protest against being a party to it. The country might be in favour of it, but that was not eno ugh to cause him to change those opinions he had held for 25 or 26 years in that house, and the justice of which he still maintained. Lord PALMERSTON said he could not but hope that the conversation which had taken place encouraged the belief that there was a prospect of the house coming to a more unanimous conclusion on the subject than he had entertained when he sugg ested his resolution the other night. (Hear, hear.) R e must say that the remark which had fallen from th e hon. member for the North Riding of Yorkshire (M r. Cayley) did him the highest credit--(hear, hear)--coming from one of his standing In that house--one who had maintained an in dependent position in respect to the question—one who throughout this controversy had exhibited good judg ment, and as to the soundness of - whose convictions there was no doubt, but who had yielded them to a sense of public duty—it was to be hoped that what he had stated would have influence on others, and lead them to follow the course which the hon. gentleman had indi cated. (Hear.) His hon. friend the member for Fins bury (Mr. T. Duncombe) had put to him a question. (Hear, hear, and laughter.) The question was with regard to how he (Lord Palmerston) came by the resolution of the right hon. baronet the member for Carlisle. Now, he could assure his hon. friend he came by it by very lawful means. (Much laughter.) He made a slight alteration in it—(continued laughter)—for the of avoidi ng a di scuss i on on purpose, as he imagined, granting c ompensat i on t o th e a collateral point, as to agricultural interests, but understanding since then that the words he had omitted only applied to the future, and left the case as to the past open, he had no objection to their being introduced into his resolution, and he thought he understood the hon. member for the North Riding to say that he had no objection to their insertion also.— (Hear ' hear.) But his hon. friend, the m em b er f or Fins bury had put to him another, and a more practical question. His hon. friend had asked him what would he do should the motion for the honourable member for Wolverhampton be rejected, and the amendment of the Government carried ? Would he put his resolution as an amendment against that of the Government ? (Hear, hear.) He could answer that question by asking another. (Laughter.) Would his hon. friend support him ? (Hear, hear, and laughter.) Mr. T. DUNCOMBE.—Yes, • certainly, against the Government. (Hear, hear.) Lord PALMERSTON. — WeII, he could assure his hon. friend that if he was encouraged with any expecta tion of adequate support he should do ao—(hear, hear) NOVEMBER 26, 18 —and he should hope, from what had already passed, that if the motion of the hon. member for Wolverhamp- ton was either withdrawn or negatived, he might ex pect a general acquiescence in his resolution, for which, as the house were aware, they were indebted to his right hon. friend the member for Carlisle. (Cheers and laughter.) He hoped both sides of the house would feel that it was a matter of national importance the question should be now set at rest. That question was not, as to what were the opinions of the Government respecting the justice of the act of 1846, but as to what they had determined on doing to maintain and carry out that policy, and if the house should come to a resolution that it must be maintained and carried out, of course its reversal was altogether untenable. (Hear, hear.) If, then a majority of that house had found out that the policy they had been pursuing was beneficial, let them calm the public mind—let them set at rest those doubts re specting it which might still linger in the breasts of some parties—let them answer by a resolution of that house the question put when Parliament was closed, and let them, as unanimously as possible, affirm that they had established and recognised that system as the founda tion of the commercial legislation of this country. (Loud cheers.) Sir L. BULWER said the whole question was in what form of words they could adopt a resolution on the subject, which would beat satisfy the people out of doors. Now he could not assent to the resolution of the lion. member for Wolverhampton, because it threw out insinuations as to the motives which had actuated hon. members on his (the Ministerial) side of the house in times past. Well, the noble lord, the member for Tiverton, had suggested a resolution for the puD)ose of obviating that objection, and coming from one who had long been accustomed to maintain their national honour by advancing their political prosperity, he bad no objec tion, especially after the speeches of the right hon. gen tleman, the member for the University of Oxford (Mr. Gladstone) and the right hon. baronet the member for Carlisle, to agree to it. (Hear.) After they had agreed on the thing that was to be done, it was out of the ques tion to be 'nice as to verbal criticism, and in agreeing to that resolution he did not consider himself prevented from doing what he could to bring about a fair applica tion of that free trade which the agricultural interests wanted. (Hear.) He, therefore, most cordially agreed in the remarks which had fallen from the hon. member for the North Riding, and he hoped that others would evince the same conciliatory spirit by throwing aside their party feelings and predilections and let the question be settled. - The Marquis of GRANBY and Lord BERNARD rose at the same time, but the latter giving way, the noble marquis said he should like to hear from the honourable and learned member for Wolverhampton, whether he intended to persevere with his resolutions. (Hear, hear.) He trusted he would persevere with them. (Cheers and laughter from the Opposition.) He hoped he would do so, because he heard the honourable member for Man chester declare the other evening that those who pre tended to be Free-traders, but were not prepared to vote with the resolution, that the act of 1846, was " wise, just, and useful," were no Free-traders at all ; and he told the honourable member that if he did not divide the house, it would go out to America, that the present was a Protectionist Parliament. Last year a similar motion was proposed, on which occasion he addressed the house, but had received no answer to his remarks then, nor had he since. What he was anxious to state was, that he for one could not agree to any one of the resolutions which had been submitted to the house. (Cheers and laughter from the Opposition.) He totally dissented from them all. (Laughter.) He agreed with the honourable member for Finsbury, that there was so much mystification and doubt about the resolu tions before them, that as to their meaning he owned he was completely bankrupt. (Laughter.) If, however, the debate should continue, he hoped the house would allow him again to address them, but, if not, he said once again that he dissented from all the reso lutions. (Loud laughter.) He did not think, ad mitting generally the prosperity of the country, he did not think that such prosperity was owing to recent legislation, but was to be attributed to other causes, and if it was owing to legislation, it was not owing to that which recognised a system of free compe tition. If, however, the country had been benefited by the commercial policy pursued of late years—if the poorer classes were better off now than they were before the passing of the act of 1846, he did think that some apology, that some acknowledgement was due to the memory of the man—(loud cheers) —to the memory of the man who commenced and carried out that policy, whose patriotism he for one never doubted, and the purity of whose motives he never impugned. (Continued cheering.) He said that if it could be proved, which he denied, that this policy had been beneficial to the coun try, then some acknowledgment was due to his memory who had carried it out—some acknowledgment that it was not only patriotic and conscientious, but farseeing and sagacious. (Loud continued cheering.) Might he ad dress himself for one moment to the Chancellor of the Exchequer—(hear hear, and laughter)—might he tell him that he cordially agreed with him in what he stated the other night, when he said that he had never brought the question of protection before the house? but he was sure the right hon. gentleman would admit, that at all events he had been generously and without reserve sup ported by the Protectionist party in that house, and also by the Protectionist party out of doors. (Loud cheers.) With these few words he would quit the sub ject. He was not about to oppose himself to the de liberate verdict of the country. (Hear.) It was not his wish to agitate the country on the question of protection —(hear)—but entertaining the opinions which he did, that the present prosperity of the country, which he ad mitted was owing to other causes than free trade, he re served to himself the right of maintaining those opinions whenever and wherever he thought proper. (Cheers.) Mr. H. B. JOHNSTONE considered all the house had to do was to pass a resolution to the effect that the system of free trade would not be interfered with. He must, however, give his vote against the resolution of the hon. member for Wolverhampton, as he considered it a direct attack upon the honour of English gentlemen. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said his hon. friend the member for Berkshire (Mr. R. Palmer) stated that he had not replied to the question put to him at a previous part of the discussion. But he confessed the question was of such a nature that, not calculating upon it as a contingent in the discussion, he did not deem it his duty at once to answer it ; and he confessed he thought the better and more regular course would have been for the hon. member for Wolverhampton to have stated what he intended to do respecting it. But, as he had not done so, he should address the house. His noble friend the member for Leiceetershire had reminded him how generously and unreservedly he had been sup ported by the protectionist party in that house and out of it ; and he must say that, however highly he might consider himself honoured by the confidence that party had placed in him, he had done everything which his abilities or his energies could do on behalf of the landed interest, who, he thought, had been unjustly treated by recent legislation, as expressed in the amendment which had been placed upon the table. (Hear, and cheers.) One would suppose, from some observations which had been made, that the Protectionist Government had come down to that house to avow a change in their opinions. (Hear.) If any one should suppose that, he had only to state that the opinions of the Government were the same as ever. (Ministerial cheers.) Here was a Government which in no way acceded to office on the question of protection. (Hear, hear.) They said they would leave that to be decided by a general election, and the verdict of the country being taken, they would bow to it. (Hear, hear.) If they had acceded to office for the purpose of advocating a system of protection—had dissolved Parliament on that question, and found that the country would not support them in their advocacy of it—then they would have resigned their position. (Cheers.) But he was not aware, from all that had occurred, that in present circumstances it was their duty to follow such a course ; but if it was the opinion of a majority of the house that it was, then the issue would be speedily tried. (Hear, hear.) He had all along said that this was a question of taxation. No one had con tended that the native industry of the country had a right to support, unless it was subjected to heavy public burdens. He considered that such a course should be pursued as would allow them to enter into competition with the industry of the world. He would not now name the course which the Protectionists might have most conveniently pursued at a former time ; but he felt that he would not be doing his duty to the party in this house and out of the house, who had so generously sup ported the Government to which he had the honour to belong, if he did not state that he was prepared to bring forward measures which would have the effect, he hoped, of giving them relief from the burdens which pressed so heavily upon them ; and he hoped that such measures would meet with the approbation of Parliament—(hear, hear) —and prove of general ad vantage to the community. To the amendments pro posed by the right lionourable baronet, the member for Carlisle (Sir James Graham), and that of the noble lord, the member for Tiverton ( Lord Palmerston), he would not personally offer any op position, preferring rather t o leave it to the house to decide upon them ; but to the resolution of the hon. and learned gentleman, the mem ber for Wolverhampton, he would offer his most decided opposition. He had that night heard from the right hon. baronet, the member for Carlisle, a complete vindi cation of that pass age in her Majesty's Speech which had been so severely criticised. The right honourable baronet had told the house, that although no party was entitled to compensation for any injury that might have been alleged to have arisen from the legislation that had taken place, still that the subject was a most legitimate one for inquiry. (Hear, hear.) What was the language expressed in the speech ? Why that if the Parliament should be of opinion that certain interests were injured by the legislation that had recently taken place--that legislation which had contributed to the commercial wel fare of the country, the house would take it into consi deration—(hear, hear)—and that was the course which the resolutions which he proposed to lay before the house were intended to recommend. (Hear, hear.) He would, when the time would come, s t a t e his views to the house on the subje c t ; b u t he did not know that the question of compensation. had ever been brought forward. It was impossible that resolutions to that ef fect might find some favour in election speeches ; but hon. gentlemen Night not to have bad• recourse to election speeches, in order to deduce from them the maxims of great statesmen, and the • ment. (Hear, hear.) Ilpolicy of the Enlish Parlia- 52. jesty's Ministers were fully warranted in advising the allusion in the Speech to the subject, And he would now say, that the expressions given utterance to by the First Minister of the Crown, if there had been a doubt on the minds of any party as to the meaning of the Government—and there could not be, he thought, a doubt in any one's mind—ought to have removed that doubt. (Hear, hear.) It had been objected to him that he was not more explicit on the subject of the financial statement which he had intended to lay before the house ; but he thought it better to reserve the few ob servations which he had to make to the house until the day of such a statement had been fixed. There had been a misconception, at least there was a feeling in the house that there should be a declaration on the part of the house that the verdict of the country had been un favourable to a protective policy ; but he thought that, as a general rule, such declarations upon the national policy were not extremely expedient—(hear, hear)—be cause after all, they were not decisive, and they did not bind any question. (Hear, hear.) He did himself most sincerely wish that the principle of inquiry into the question of compensation should not be disturbed by any hasty vote of the new Parliament. (Hear, hear.) The Government were of opinion that no opposition should be made if a resolution had been brought forward in its character declaratory that the country had decided in favour of commercial freedom. To him, indi vidually, it could, of course, be no object, because if in the measures he should have to recommend for adoption to the house, he meant to show one thing more than' another it was a recognition of the principle of unrestricted competition ; and if the policy which he intended to recommend should not ap . pear a fit one, the house would not support it. He would not now be led into any discussion of the charac ter of his intended measures, and he was quite sure that the house would think it unfair that he should. His noble friend (the Marquis of Granby) referred to the , . generous support that the Government had met with from the party to which he belonged ; and he (the Chan cellor of the Exchequer) trusted that the measures which the Government contemplated to submit to the house would be found just and deserving of support. His noble friend had communicated to him frequently, that if a resolution was brought forward expressing the ver dict of the country in an unequivocal manner, that unre stricted competition would be necessary, it would be most unwise to keep alive the controversy. (Hear, hear.) An appeal had been made to the opinion of the country, and he might say that their resolution was a most unequivocal one, deciding that the principle of free trade should be the principle of their commercial policy. There was nothing to that extent, in the resolutions sub mitted to the house, that the house might not accept. There was no secret in the advice which his noble friend had g iven ; but in the motion of the honourable and learned gentleman the member for Wolverhampton, there were three odious epithets. (Hear, hear.) Now, that was nqt the way in which a question of this kind ought to be treated. It was unnecessary to put offensive ex pressions into that resolution—(hear, hear)—and thus make it a resolution not only offensive, but positively injurious, to the feelings of gentlemen. Epithets of the kind, he affirmed, ought not to be put into the reso lution. He had not the resolution by him, but he _ _ - - thought that he could recollect that it was very objec tionable in stating that the welfare of the community was mainly attributable to the operation of recent legis lation. The Government did not mean to deny that the _ . operation of commercial freedom had the effect of im proving the condition of the working classes ; but they thought that they had laid down in language not to be mistaken what their opinion was on the subject, in lan guage, he might add, so decisive, that hon. members had admitted that it could not go farther. (Hear, hear.) Yet the three odious epithets to which he had referred, had been introduced into the honourable gentleman's resolution, since the meeting held at Lord Derby's. They had, since that resolution was submitted, an amend ment contingent on the amendment of the noble Lord the member for Tiverton ; so that there appeared four amendments on the resolution before the house. First, with regard to the amendment of the right honourable baronet the member for Carlisle, it was difficult for him to offer any personal opposition to it, or to enter into discussion on an amendment which was not printed. But if her Majesty's Ministers should bring forward cer tain measures, showing that certain classes in the country had beeni njured by recent legislation, to say that those classes had no claim to consideration would be most unjust. He understood it to be the effect of the motion, that no compensation was to be made to injured parties. Now, if that be the language of the amendments, he should not be very captious in expressing himself upon it. But they had now to decide what they should do ; and if the lion, and learned member for Wolverhampton should persist in the course which he had entered upon, he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) should certainly resist that course—(hear, hear)—and on the ground that it was most unjust and unwise, and he thought the house would make a great mistake if they adopted that resolution. (Hear, hear, from the Ministerial side of the house.) With regard to the two amendments before the house, he thought that, after all, they were merely fight ing about words. (Hear, hear.) There was no differ ence of opinion between the noble lord the member for Tiverton and the Government, that the country, in a most unmistakeable manner, had adopted the question of free trade. It seemed, then, that the country had adopted the principle, and that it did not longer remain to be de cided by the house. (Hear, hear.) He confessed, then, that he should not, there being no longer any difference of opinion between them on the question, divide the house on his own amendment, in opposition to those amendments ; but the real question was, whether the hon. and learned member for Wolverhampton, and those who were acting with him, were resolved to persevere with their motion—a motion which, coming from that side of the house, he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer), without any disrespect to those gentlemen, must consider it his duty to give his most earnest opposition. (Cheers.) Lord JOHN RUSSELL said, notwithstanding some parts of the speech of the right hon. gentlemen. that the house may yet be able to arrive at a decision on this great question, they would at least include the great ma jority of the house, that it was most desirable that a question which had been so long in dispute, should be set at rest. (Hear, hear.) He should not now enter into the early part of the speech of the right hon. gentle man respecting the character of his Government—whe ther it was to be called " a Protectionist Government." Another day might arrive in which he might have an opportunity to express his opinion on that subject. He thought that it was most reasonable that when Par liament was assembled some decision should be come to upon the great question of free trade, ppon which the country had been so long divided, and in the abstract it appeared desirable that the party who made themselves the peculiar advocates, and styled themselves the de fenders of the interests that had been affected, as alleged, by recent legislation, should have a full opportunity of laying before the country these measures which were in tended to deal with the evil, and at the same time con duce to the general welfare. (Hear, hear.) The house had now before them two principles, and with respect to the first, he owned that it appeared to him that a great mistake had been made by her Majesty's Minis ters, in not advising her Majesty to make an express de claration on the question of free trade. He quite agreed with the Secretary of State for the Home De partment, in the statement, that it would be neither prudent nor desirable on all occasions to place in the Speech from the Throne matters that might excite the public mind ; but the occasion in question was no ordi nary occasion, but rather a great and extraordinary oc casion ; and whatever might have been the views of her Majesty's Ministers, he (Lord J. Russell) thought it was a duty that her Majesty's Ministers owed to the people of this country, to have placed on r ecord in the Speech, whether or no the commercial policy that had been instituted was to be continue d, or whether it was to be reserved. He was confirmed in this view by the statement of the right hon. gentleman, who had himself proposed a resolution with regard to their commercial legislation. He had introduced a sort of supplementary passage in the Queen's Speech, which was intended to supply something that was omitted. He (Lord J. Rus sell) maintained that all those who had an interest in the question of free trade, had shown great forbearance in not moving an amendment to the Address, He could not but refer to the first paragraph in the Speech, and would not have been surprised if some member had risen to move an amendment on the subject. He main tained that the industry of this country was fully able, and was never more so than at present, to meet oppo sition, and if not able, he would say further with respect to the working classes, that if the industry of the country could not meet competition, it would be imperative on them to enable it do so • so that it should not be said that Parliament in its folly had entered on a course of legislation that proved most injurious to the country. He thought, then, that Ole house had exercised great forbearance in not moving an amendment on the address to the Speech, and no member would have been so fit to do so as his hon. friend the member for Wolverhampton. (Hear, hear.) His hon. friend had given notice of a mo tiont on the subject, and he (Lord John Russell) must state a fact—and it was a fact from his own :cn,.?Viedion. —that the very first suggestion that he madentaoined the friend on the subject of his resolution, words "wise, just, and beneficent" — he (Lord Joh Russell) himself (hc7crtoholsieeawto had :the words "wise, advised his friend that he oughtwtaostpounnt and he had done just, and beneficent," in the rest c i te d competition had so on the principle that as unrestricted been established, the measureps iorulilaidribeen sustained. Well, he said that it was by Act of o t p o i n d i i o s n t u , r t b o it declare e the present Parliament oughdt,uinan jluiisst that it would be unwise an never could consent to any c ourse calculated t. and to h e d i stu rejoicedr b it. He maintained that it was a wise ac , that some tribute of acknowledgment was offered to the memory of that illustrious statesman (Sir Robert Peel) who carried the measu re. (Hear.) The result consti tuted a just i fication of the act. (Hear.) He repeated, that the odious epithets complained of had been most wisely inserted in the resolution. He thought that the question was one for the house to determine, and that the right honourable gentleman (the Chancellor of the Ex chequer) ought to be most explicit in his resolutions. The question was still one of free trade or protection (Hear, hear.) The right honourable gentleman (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) had charged him (Lord John Russell) with " audacity" in the course he had taken on a former occasion ; but he must notwithstanding say, that the question ought to be now settled by the house as to whether free trade was to be maintained. If the right honourable gentleman should still call him auda cious for saying that this was a question of free trade or protection, he (Lord John Russell) must say, that that was the question, and that that question the representa• IVZtv pity, =. tives of the people in this house should, notv what might be said about audacity, now sett " Hear, hear.") The right honourabl e g entle to think that the only question worthy of co and of a vote in that house was, wheth er or nftUt -)>Ac` conduct of himself and his colleagues was such that hey( were bound to support them. Now, he must make some ' `ow comments on that subject, because he did Rot at all con cur in the views of the right honourable gentleman on that question ; but the time for that had not come. The question that night was, whether that great system of commercial policy, which the late Sir R. Peel, from the , year 1842 to the year 1846, had proposed and carried into the shape of law, and which they (the opposition carried still further from 1847 to 1852, in the shape of the sugar laws and the navigation laws, was a system which had proved, beneficial to the country, and ought to be maintained, continued, and extended. (Hear, hear.) Now, it was extremely desirable that all those who were of that opinion, who thought that it was bene ficial, should unite, if possible, in one vote in the asser tion of that doctrine. (Hear, hear.) Do not tell him that what they were pleased to call abstract resolutions were (vf no importance. The stability of our currency stands upon an abstract resolution, passed in 1696, in the re - tgn of Wm. 111., when it was resolved that the standard of silver should not be altered. The currea'VY was based on that resolution until 1828, when the qu.e..l - having again been discussed, the House of Commons, on the motion of Mr. Huskisson, reaffirmed that resolu tion ; and again, when Lord Althorp was Chancellor of the Exchequer, the currency question having been in 'troduced, he called upon the house to reaffirm that re solution, and it did, so that from the year 1696 to 1852 the stability of our currency sy,3tem stood upon that re solution. Well, then, after the opinion of the country had been fully tested and taken ag' to what was to be the commercial policy of the country, why should it not be placed on record that the house adapted that policy, and their conviction that it should coLitinue to be the policy of generations yet to come ? R7ly should not that be the case when that other great ,lountry—the 'United States of North America—have reeslntlY , by a great majority, decided that it, too, was fav,Wrable to free trade ? Why should we not unite with' them in carrying out that policy—and thus, by the jun 'ciion of two great nations, sprung from the same race, . make that policy rule the world ? (Cheers.) Well, thei b if he might venture to advise his hon. friend the memb,lf for Wolverhampton, it would be this :—that the ChancAX of the Exchequer having declared his willingness: toP accept, instead of his own resolution, the amendm l / 4 5nt which, it appeared, had first been drawn up by his rig honourable friend the member for Carlisle, and afte wards placed on the table by the noble lord the membe r for Tiverton, that he (Mr. Villiers) should likewise de-' clare his acceptance of that resolution—(Ministerial cheers)—and that all who were Free-traders—whether like his hon. friend the member for Wolverhampton, and like the hon member for the West Riding, and other _ hon. gentlemen, who were Free - traders of a very long date—whether they were Free-traders of the date of 1842 or 1846, or only dated from the month of Novem ber in the present year—(a laugh)—whatever the date of their Free-trade opinions, should all unite and give these resolutions the stamp of the approval of the British House of Commons. • (Loud and general cheering.) N2i0601 11 .; 47%611iii ~. -' *~ Mr. COBDEN (who rose amidst loud cries of " Vil liers ") said he had felt considerable difficuty in com prehending what was the tendency of the remarks of scame of the speakers, and the real object of this discussion - 4 and it was only by degrees that he arrived at a full um derstanding of what was the question at present. Where he listened to the remarks of the noble lord the member for Tiverton, as to behaving in an ungentlemanly man ner, and the importance of the house coming to a general agreement on this great question, he was almost, for the moment, unconscious of what was the real question at issue between them ; but the right hon. baronet the member for Carlisle had, in his address, completely de veloped what was the issue. It appeared that a resolu tion was prepared by the right -hon. gentleman, which contained words asserting that the free-trade measures since 1846 had not the effect of inflicting any injury on great interest. The right hon. gentleman told them that these words were inserted to meet claims for corn-. pensation, and to bar such claims if they were made. It appeared this resolution, by some means or other not ex plained, had fallen into the hands of the noble lord the member for Tiverton, and that he had taken it, and after cutting out of it that important part, that all-important part of the resolution, it had found its way to the Carl ton, and there, at a meeting of the protectionist party, it had been resolved unanimously to accept that resolution. (Cries of "No, no," on the Ministerial benches below the gangway.) They were not unanimous. (No, no.) Well, then, they were not to have this unanimity of which so much was said. It appeared they were not going to settle this matter in this gentlemanly well-behaved drawing-room fashion. He would admit, to a certain extent, the excellent tone and tendency of the reso lution drawn up by the right hon. member for Carlisle, but as it had pleased the Chancellor of the Exchequer, so it seemed the free-trade party had accepted the reso lution. (Hear.) Well, then, Downing-street and the Carlton Club were not agreed in opposition. At Down ing-street there had been a meeting—some one had once talked about the barracoons there—(a laugh)— and there it had been resolved to support it when divested of those odious epithets, which it was said the free-trade party had inserted, for the purpose of preventing them from accepting it. Now he might say, and it was, he hoped, no presumption on his part to say so, that before any resolution had been presented to that house as the resolution of the free-trade party, it might have been submitted to him. (Cheers.) Now, he never saw that resolution which had been placed before the Carlton Club and Downing-street. (Hear, hear.) He was no con senting party to it. He was of opinion that whatever resolution they passed ought distinctly to acknowledge the wisdom and the justice of the policy of 1846, but it appeared that the resolution they had adopted was the one from which the words wisdom and justice were ex punged, and which debarred . them from claiming com pensation. Well, then, it seemed, after what had passed that night, that this Was a matter of great importance, because the Chancellor of the Exchequer had told them that he had measures which would ameliorate the condi tion, and compensate the classes who were injured. (Hear.) He told them, in answer to the remarks of the noble lord the member for Leicestershire, that he hadre medial measures. Well, what would his hon. friend, the member for the Tower Hamlets, say to that? (A laugh.) The last time he had the pleasure of meeting that hon. baronet was on the platform of the Free-trade Hall, in Manchester, and an appearance on these boards did not usually deprive a man of his political virtue. (A laugh) If the hon. baronet had supported the resolution of the right honourable member for Carlisle, he would not have been surprised, but after taking that from the noble lord, he was certainly surprised at his want of political sagacity. There had been, it appeared, some little difficulty in framing this resolution to meet the views of the right honourable gentleman, the member for the University of Oxford. It seemed that the right hon. gentleman had once been caught and voted for some motion of the right hon. member for Bucks, and that the resolution, therefore, while it debarred future c.oomn.pen(sNatoi,onoosrulThd neotresghoulottoiount r s e h tr u o t ac it tiv o e u c t om fo p r epnassat 'injuries. Well, if they put that plainly it amounted to this, " there shall be compensation for corn aid cattle, but no compensation for butter and cheese." (Hear, and a laugh.) Well, now if the right hon. gentleman should think himself bound by his precipitate vote on a question of compensation in 1850, he would ask hint to contrast the condition of the people at present, and of these very classes with what it was in 1850, when he might have thought there was some claim to compensa tion, and he must come to the conclusion that there was no such reason now. But the question came, whether they were to have compensation at the expense of the tax-payers, who were to pay for free trade ? (" N o, no," and cheers.) He said, if they admitted the ques tion at all, it came to that, and that it would be as easy to take money out of the pockets of the tax-Ps:M ( 4 measures of compensation as by direct taxes be as might levy under that guise imposts that would sa.crr as burdensome as protection. (Hear, hear.) then question in Free-traders, they would not deal that way. and e bFree-traders did not it, to that policy. (A laugh.) Theyet they Protectionists madeth e deny e e2dw city w th a e s y a ca t ec et i _cheers)- n, he warned said ea make e if th th ei e r y gentlemen opposite did t if lion. them solemnly, tha " r ` a b is o e w d s; hi t s o c m om aj p o e ri n t : n t s ion ( tang word and past conduct on ah struggleoped the y t h would t ul mark be fa w r ha m t o h r e e this, such a struggle would bseucchomamesnuebete—ctanhdadif his rid ig_ht ti w iey ith wo t u h l e d m r , ai h se e envy (Opposition cheers.) The object of disastrous to them than any w p d a iass s s t otol s u tru tbil4lo g n g: g e tht i oe n pr w e h e i . e traa h the y had been the test the after the in good a position as stood as before , not only in tho last, but in previous Parliaments, when they had beaten. the friend whether, resolutions Exchequer by iorge qhiiisesht? , right hon. the Chancellor of the majorities on every question in which compensation \ involved. They wanted to know whether in this nkTir house, after this late election, after all the turmoil, W pense, derangement, and extravagan ce of that election' —(hear)—whether that h.wouse. was . in favour of free trade. would They (the Free-traders) Id have that question pure and simple, submitted to the house, and, therefore, his advice to his hon. friend the member for Wolverhamp ton was, that he would not withdraw his resolution. (Cheers.) He hoped they would now take the real dis cussion, and when that was settled they would know what was to be the work of the Free-traders in future. (Cheers.) Mr. NEWDEGATE, who was met by renewed criesfor Mr. Villiers, said the hon. member for the West Riding was always plain spoken. lie said th h at ad he wished to try fairly whether those who said they had Well,been in juredhe had a claim i to compensation consistent t labour, and was tolerably well known as a anxiety, Protectionist, and all he had got by being so was, . round They b r ed . e that they stood upon their old . g expense. (Cheers.) But he had no hesitation in saying te ined to see whether the present Government wol'd they had been injured, and believing that, they were ;le acknowledge the injuries which had been done—the' existing injury, and provide remedial measures. If the house adopted the resolution proposed on call& side, being a Protectionist, he should leave it, and take no part in its deliberations until he saw what measures the Government brought forward. As i;o1 the language of the honourable member for the West Riding in that house, it was in substance his language out of doors. That honourable member was one of the most successful demagogues of the age. (Oh, oh, and hear.) Yes, he acknowledged it. At that meeting;. con!