The Sun. — London, England, 1837-12-05 00:00:00

IRELAND. MR. O'CONNELL'S TITHE BILL. • Another Clergyman of the Established Church, the Rec tor of Dundalk, has announced his willingness to accede to Mr. O'Connell's proposition for the settlement of the tithe question. This augurs well for a termination of the. breaches of peace and of Christian charity to which this question has so long given rise. The following is the letter we ellude to : To DANIEL O'CONNELL, ESQ., M. P. Stn—la the Drogheda Journal of the 18th instant, I have read a letter addressed by you to the hies archy and clergy of the P.otestant Church in Ireland, and containeig a plan for the setttl . ment of the tithe question. I think your plan is a good and reasonable one. It appears to me to be quite feasible, and it would evidently relieve a great portion of the people of this country from what they have been t ought to regard as an unequitable tax ; whilst it would, at the same time, pros ide for the maintenance of the Clergy, without nseessitaf ng them to have recouree to those unpleasantroceed inga be which they have been brough t into an g ry collision e ith their flocks. I do think there is every probability of its being favourably erNeived bthe Clrgy, prosided a suffi?tent guarantee is given to them hat ther e will be no further innovations made upon their rights. To receive their incomes at the Treasury, without trouble, subject to the deduction of thirty per cent., is very good, p ar tienlarly when co m p ared to the eel i n which they have been circurustane,cd for the la-t six years ; but, then, may not this " adjustment" afford a precedent for further- do ductions ? for the appropriatien, or, as it ought rather to be called. the spo liation otieciple ? Will it not, in fact, be laying a foundation upon whist, Radicals and Agitators -nay erect their batteries to beat down the bulwarks of Protestantism in this benighted land ? Nothing could be more melanellolY than the situation of the Protestant clergy in this country foi !he la few y ears ;on the one side, reduced to the utmost destitu::"- by the with holding of their just and legitimate right s—and on other, driven to the necessity of taking such proceedings for the re covery of those rights as have unfortunately sometimes led to ft fatal termination. Well, Sir, deplorable as this state of things is, I, for one, do say, that rather than be a party to any act er compact, by which the effects I have above-mentioned might be produced, I would let this unfortunate state of things continue. I think destitution upon the one side, and the as sertion of legitimate right upon the other, no matter what might he the result of that assertion, would be preferable to to that peace and plenty which you promise, if that peace and plenty are hereafter to be twitted into ropes with which Pro testantism may be choked. But Sir, my apprehensions may probably be unfounded ; however, if they are not, I think the Protestant Clergy should require, and ought to receive, the guarantee to which I have alluded. These, Sir, are merely my own sentiments ; but if I do not greatly misunderstand the sentiments of my brother clergymen generally in Ireland, they are theirs also ; and I think, Sir, they tend to show that the charges of selfishness and avarice which have been made against us are utterly un founded, and that they are so, at least in so far as I am con cerned, will appear evident from a simple statement of nay own case. As a minister of the Gospel, it was my duty to make every sacrifice possible in order to promo:e "peace and good-will," and in accordance with that principle, I refrained for more than three years from taking any proceedings for the reco very of my tithes. Poverty at length compelled me to assert my rights, wad by filing bills in the Exchequer, I, in almost every instance, forced the recusants to settle with my attorney, but what has been the consequence to me ? In the first place, my Catholic parishioners are angry with me, and that feeling I am sorry to say, some of our local agitators are labouring to excite to a greater degree; and, in the next place, more than one-half of what I have been able to recover in this way, hag been expended in the payment of what my solicitor calls " costs between attorney and client." So that, upon the whole, I have sot been able to pocket even one-fourth of my former yearly income. However, all this and more will I bear rather than acquiesce in any measure which may have a tendency to injure the interests of that Church of which I am an humble minister. Secure those interests—place them be yond the reach of the sacrilegious hands of Radicals and Liberals, and then, Sir, your plan for the settlement of the Tithe question may be accepted ; and your mind will be filled with the consolatory reflection that you have done a great deal towards promoting " peace and good-will amongst men." Sir, your obedient humble servant, ELIAS THACKERAY, Rector, Dundalk and Louth. ORANGE RUFFIANISM.—On Saturday night, a reckless Orange ruffian, in the service of a gentleman in this city, sallied out of his master's house, about ten o'clock, armed with a dagger, and exerted all his ability to create a riot. He went along the Quay with the instrument of death ex posed, shouting for " any Mulgravebloodhound," in order that he could put his dagger through him. At length he encoun tered one of our city police, who, with much difficulty se cured him, and handed him over to the authorities. An in vestigation was yesterday held before the Mayor, when the reckless Orangemen was bound over in a heavy penalty to keep the peace.—Waterford Chronicle. ORANGE PLOT DETECTED.—The following is extracted from a letter which we find in the Freeman's Journal:— About seven o'clock last night some armed ruffian came to the house of Mr. John Legg, of Lamagh, which is within a mile and a half of the town of Longford, and within half a mile of Newtotvn Forbes. This fellow, armed with a loaded pistol, instantly demanded admission into Mr. Legg's house. This demand was refused. Mr. Legg opened his door, very incautiously, t ) drive him off; the assassin immediately fired on him. The ball shattered Mr. Legg's hand, and wounded him on the breast. As soon as the assassin fired he fled, and, thaugh closely pursued by some countrymen, he effected his es ape. This, the Mail will say, is an alarming state of thing; I Here is a respectable and inoffensive Protestant farmer, living within a mile of two police stations, and of some troops of dragoons and a stipendiary magistrate, and at le ist four unpaid magistrates, and within a few Fees of the mail road—and whilst the same road is trodden by successive crowds of persons returning from the market of Longford ; his only crime his conscientious votes fur the Tory candi date' ; and yet a daring ruffian, at the early hour of seven o'clock, comes up to his house, and murderously assails his life, deliberately fires upon him, and wounds him mor tally—for he is supposed to be mortally wounded—or maims him for life I Such a state of things is indeed awfully earning ; and if the supposed perpetrator had not been de tected, the chafge against the poor Papists would be em blazoned in the Mad. But no Popish Agitator—no " Irish savage"—in accused or even suspected ; but a genuine Orangeman, from the very heart of an exclusively Orange district—Bobby Beatty—has been arrested, fully identified, and committed to Longliffd ganljiff the attempted murder—for this Rockite outrage-4ff this persecution, extermination, and attempt on the life of a loyal and unprotected Protestant of Longford. Contiguous to this Bobby Beatty's house is an Orange lodge, in which the members assembled, and were found by our excellent stipendiary magistrate, Captain Barnes, on the fifth of last November ; and a poor woman, who " plodded her weary way," and, tottering under a load of peat, was found on the public road near that lodge, on the same night; and for the mere crime of pressing on ground sacred to Orange men, some ruffian approached her, and wantonly fired on her in the knee. Such is the man who disturbs in Longford the peace and tranquillity of the county ; and such are the per sons who, from motives known to themselves and to their leaders, stigmatise, by their own outrages, of " ingenious de vice," the character of a loyal, peaceable, and persecuted people—such the rotten ground on which the 'l'ory faction build their plan of assailing Lord Mulgrave's Administration, and of propping their own tottering cause. The Czar arrived et Moscow on the Bth of the present month. A serious accident had like to have occurred to him as he descended Mount Caucasus. The axletree of the vehicle ia which he was broke as he was crossing a hi idge, and the passengers were in consequence flung violently for ward. The Emperor sustained no personal injury, but his mind, which had betrayed symptoms of wildness before, is said to have felt the effects of the shock. The remainder of his voyage to Moscow has rarely been equalled in point of ce lerity. tie travelled 104 leagues in 26 hours. lie intends to return to St. Petersburg about the middle of December. SIIIPWRECK.—On Monday, the Ranger lugger, Le'onging to Ramsgate, arrived there from a cruise, having on board the matt awl four seamen from the American ship Colosseum, Captain Winsor, of Boston, who gave the fol lo,,ing particulars respecting that ship :—The mate states that the Co/osseunt, a ship of 320 tong, left St. Petersburgh on a voyage to St. libes, and th it on Sunday last, the 26th inst., about two o'clock in the afterncoa, they went on shore on the Kentish Knock. They immediately hoisted their colours, and fired signal-guns for assistance, and the same %las observed by the schooner Robert, Captain Hunter, of South Shields, who bore down as near as possible, with the view of rendering aid. The mate and four seamen put off from the ship and hoarded the schooner, requesting the captain to lay by the ship and keep a light up, which was done. The wind and the sea having greatly increased, rendered it impossible for the boat to return to the ship : night and every prospect of a gale coming on, the captain of the Robert, unable to remain longer by the ship, stood off for the night. At daylight next morning (Monday) the schooner showed her colours, which were soon seen by the Ramsgate lugger, the Ranger, cruising on the bank of the Goodwin, when they (the mate and four men) were put on board the lugger, and at the particular request of the mate of the ship they proceeded to the Knock Sand, if possible, to regain their vessel. They could not discover any Th-y then spoke a schooner, the captain of which in formed them that they had passed a broadside of a large ship, with other ureckage, which circumstance leaves but little reason to doubt of the Colosseum having gone to pieces, and that the captain, with ten men and one passenger (twelve in all), perished with the ill-fated vessel. Friday evening a meeting o f th e par i s hi oners o f S. Clement Danes was held in the vestry-room of the church, for the purpose of sanctioning . the collection of a poor-rate of tenpence in the pound, and it was rumoured that an attempt would be made to pass one of one shilling. The speakers were numerous, and the business of the meeting concluded by an amendment of eightpence being carried. There has been great excitement amongst the inhabi tants of Chatham and Brompton during the past week, in con sequence of a great many dogs being in a rabid state. We are sorry to have to state that a boy of the name of Skinner, aged six years, whose parents reside at New Brompton, was bitten by one of those animals, and on Friday last died in a most dreadful state of madness. The Magistrates have issued an order for all persons to keep their dogs closely confined. — Maidstone Gazette. PRICES OF CAN A.LS, DOCK STOCKS. ASSURANCE COMPANIES,&c. &c. &c. LONDON, FRIDAY, DEC. 1. Price !lumber Dividend CANA! S. per of rer it , mrs. Annum. Paid. Share 1,766 7 per cent. Ashton and Oldham.... Average 97/. ISs. sh. 135 I . (82 41. Astll - ,y-de_le-Zouch .........Average 113/. sh. d. 5 1,21'0 Ba.iinge ,, ke lOOl. sh. 5 1,005 5/, Brecknock .nd Aliergavenny 150.. sh. 10C 8,000 1-I6sh. 9!. 62. 12irminghaia, 1-16th shara 811. & 711. 2'20 4,000 [Otto a , .(1 Li“ . ipool Junct...1251 eh. 10u pd 26 MO :31. Bridgewater and Taunton -.OW. sh. all pd 64 40u 4/. Clielmer and illackwater 1001. sh. 102 500 481. Coventry "Vi. sh. 700 4.545 Croydon 2,44;01 41. Os. Dc,dley lOol. sh. E 3 tilo 71. Derby 2",000 Danurie and Mtyne 3,5751 3.'. Ellesmere and Chester Average 133/. sta. 77 231 40'. Frow4sh 'lll4.sn. '7CO 1,297 281. Firth and Clyde Average 34-01.1 Cs. th. et 11 ,9 00 12/. Grand JtinctUm 1601. sh. 215 t,649 1 1 1/. Grand Union IGOI.sh. 25 1 500 ... ...... Grand Surrey _ 'lO,OOO/. U. Per cent. Ditto (optional) Loa n 11)01. 70 3,096 Grand Wes t e rn 1001. sh. all pd 4360 131.125. id. Glam,rganshire, Average cost 172 .'. 13s. 4.1. 230 749 10s. Grantham 150/. sh. 2.2 6,238 21. Os Iludderstit Id Average 571. 6s. 6d. sh. 37 100 Kensington 100 sh. all pd. 10 25,328 11.55. Kennet :na Avon, Average 39/.188.10d. sh. 24 2, 4 .071 '2ll. Leeds and Liverpool 1001. sh. 51,f 545} 13/. Leicester IV/. sh. 225 1,897 41. 10s. Leicester anA Nortkampton...Aver. S3l. 10s. 88 2,400 IN. Monmouthshire 100/.sh. 2a) 150 104 Melton Mowbray 100/. eh. 200 WO 251. Mersey and Irwell 100/. sh. 565 3.600 11.10 s. Macclesfield 100/. sh all pd. n '247 17/. Neat h 100/. sh. 325 1786 30/. Oxford . 10, 1. it 1. 530 2,100 51. Peak Forest Average about 781. sh. 104 1,418 12s. Regent's (or London) Aver. 33/. ICs. Bd. eh. 16 5,6e.9 6/. per cent. Rochdale Average 8.51.5 h. 111 500 gl, Shropshire Vl5/. sh. 138 800 91. 103. Somerset Coal 150/. sh. 151 i 3,600/. 41 per cent. Ditto 1 ock Fund Stock 121.1i 700 401. Stafford and Worcester 140!. sh. 710 500 91, Shrewsbury 1251. sh. 280 300 91. Stourbridge 3,647 21. •5. Stratford-on-A , di ...Average 791. Os. ud. sh. 50 533 121. Swansea 1001. sh. 3,762 11. 15s. Severn and Wye and Railway...Av 351. sh. 261 " 600455. 32/. 11.1 s. Treat and Mersey, I share 100/. sh. 560 -• " .. Thames .nd Medway...Aver. 19 /. s s. 9d . s h . 2 8,1„, ....... ' 1,000 s h, 1 ID/ Warwick a.id Birmingham . lOW. sh 265 I,ooolsh. j iktO IIL Warw!elt and t4apton lOO/. sib 185 5 000 255. 6,000 4/. Os. s , 800 31. 125/. sh 75 l'l4lriCticaZtaiLKlrkisslir.m. Averagelngham..67Al.v.l7osBl..B‘Bl.. i s h s. b 9 .4 1. 21 Wyrlay and Essington Wisbe•ich , 1051 sh. 45 t 905 "S it. ►Wey a11. l Arun DO"KS. 4 ,600 k .1001. sh. 55 - , 1 ]3p. c Commercial 1,1 654 s 1 liq,titi7a.,. 6 per ct. E .. ast India Stock 107 2,23),31141. 565. p. ct. London Ditto Bonds 99 1,380,0001. 44 7 . p. ct. West India , ;tock 95 2,`.:09 9/. 19s. Bristol 6-1,321/. 5/. par cent. Ditto N Stock "t o tes, various amounts ll3 1,35 . 2,75244 per coit. St. K atharine r. 00,000 44 per cent. Ditto Bo nds 200,000 4 per cent. Ditt o Bonds tor 10 years 99 Shoreham Harbour 2.500 .... .... Deptford B l'icr AI. sh. 3/. RII)G ES. 1,600 jrB, Hammersm , ti . .50/. sh. 224 7,931 Southwark, Old Av. 031. `ls. Bd. sh. 2 1,700 11. 15s, Ditto, New, of 74 per cent. 5O/. sh. 141 5,600 Waterloo IOU). sh. 3 5,000 18s. Sd. Ditto, Old Annuities of V/. 5,000 16s. 4d. Ditto, New Ditto of 71 40/. pd ltif 110,6004 51. per cent. Di tto Bonds llB 5,818 17s Vau xhall Av - trage 70/. 108. 3d. sh l6l ASSURANCE COMPANIES. '2,000 311 0 s Albion 5002. sh. 501 pd 81 50,000 [ln e i Z t- } Alliance, British & Foreign 100/. sh. 10f/. pd 1:3 50,000 6 per cent. Ditto, Marine 1001. sh. 51. pd 5 . 1 24,000 V. per sh. Atlas 1,20048 h. 51. Birmingham hire 250/. sh. 55/ pd 1074 20,000 41 per cent. British Fire 250/.811. 501. pd 42 12,000 61. per cent. British Commercial 501. sh. Si. pd 64 5,000 5/. per cent. Clerical, 51e3i..a1,8a. Life, ICO/sh. 12/10s pd 4 4,000 21 lie County 1001. sh. 101. pd 42 20,000 ss. Eagle 501. sh. 51. pd 51 per cent. n, 301 W.l Economic Lai , lOOOl. sh. 2501. pd 375 200 I a 2,271 225. per cent. European Ll ic 204 sh. all pd 22 50,000 2s, Ditto, New 2Ol. sh. 21. pd 1 f 1,000,00111. 71. per ct Globe Stock 153 20,000 51. Guardian lOO/. sh. 274/ pd Zi3} 40,000 68. (id. Hope 501. sh. 51. pd 6 2,400 51. 7s. (Id. Imperial Fire 5001. sh. 501. pd 125 7,500 Os. Imperial Li lc 1001. sh. 101. pd 10 13,453 4/. per cent. Indemnity M:aine 1001. sh. 8/. IA 10 4 2,020 Si 108 Kest Fire 50/. sh. all pd 82 Si. Ditto Life. 79 10,000 16s. Law Life 1001. sh. 10/. pd 25f 5,000 Ills. London, Fir: 252. sh. 121. 10s. pd 151 3,900 10s. London, Sliip 251. sh. 121. 10s. pd 154 30,000 51. per cent. Palladium late 501. sh. 2/. pd 21 8s Od 50,000 41. per cent. Protector File ..................001, 2Ol. sh. 2/. pd 13s Od 2,500 1/. Provident Lite .................. sh. 10/. pd 19f 100,000 ss. Rock Life 0 01. sh. 1/. pd fil 639,220/ 5/. per cent. Royal Each-nips ..................... to, k... 225 6,000 5 per cent. University t.ite .. .. . ................. sh. 5/. pd 4 per cent. United Kingdom Li . fe 2l. pd ...........ai raingdom aa. JOINT STOCK BANKS i Australasia ° g,7o pd 2 per cent. Agric. and Comm. of Ireland 2405 i s sh. 40/. pd 10,001 10 per cent. Bank of Birmingham 5Ol. sh. 101. pd 10,000 12 per cent. Bit mingham Bank 5Ol. sh. Si. pd 30,002 5 per cent. London and Westminster...loolol. ppd d 3,000 4 per cent. Lanc aster 100/. sh. 2 '25,000 Liverpool 1001 sh. 101. p 4.1 50,000 71 per sent. Manchester and Liverpool] 1001.0. 151 od Discount 20,000 7 per cent. Manchester 1001. sh. 251 pd 20,000 Provincial Bank of lreland 100/. sh. 251. pd 20, , e0 National Bank of Ireland 5l 1. sh. 1711. pd 10,000 5 per cent. National Provincial Eng. lOOl. sh. 35/. pd 10,000 Gloucestershire 5Ol. sh. 101. pd 6,000 10 per cent. Hampshire 501. sh. 51. pd GAS LIGHT AND COKE COMPANIES. 2,500 1/ 5s 6d Bath 2O/. sh. lrl. pd 5,000 British 4O/ sh. 161 pd 5, ,.. i . w ., cs4percenti Land Bs. ss. .5 Ditto Provincial 2 0/. sh. 19 p d 923 51 lOs Birmingham 501. oh 1,950 2! Os Bristol 20.. sh. 1,5e0 3110. Brighton 2Ol. sh . 730 31 lOs Ditto, New '2ol. sh. 181. pd 2,471 44 per cent. Brighton General..., 90/. sh. all pd 4,000 4 1 . Continental Cansolidated lOO/. 623/. pd 1,000 10/. City of Loudon lOO/. sh. all pd 1,000 64 Ditto, New 4,000 4/.los. Equitable ! 0/. pd 10, 00 21 per cent. Imperial SOO 51. per cent. Isle of Thanet 251. sh. 201. pi] 2,351) 0/. per cent. : ndependent '3ol. sh. a'l pd 0,11.:0 31. per cant. Phrenix 'AIO sk. 391. pd 1,00(1 4/. per cent. Ratcliff 1001. sh. 804 pd 4,0 , 0 South Metropolitan 5O/. sh. 191. 1d 8,200 5/. per cent. United General 5Ol. sh. 404 pd 21,0 5/. per cant. Warwick 50/, sh. 400 10/. per cent Wakefield 25/. s h . 12,0.0 3/. Westminster Chartered 6,00 0 12s. Ditto New . 51 1. sh 1(11. pd KO Yarmouth .04 sh. 18!. pd WATER wanKS. 1900 9 s . Birmingham 95/. sh. 25 /. pd 1 , 4 0 4 , 61. Eas , London IOW sh. 5,500 21 10. Or ind Junction -.Average 411 13s. 44. sh. 2,000 2/. Kent 100! oh 372 104 Liverpool Bootle '220/. sh. 1,504) 21 10s Now 'liver Loudon Bridge Water Annul ties 6,4841 11 15s Manchester and Salford 100:. oh. 1,000 I per cent. South London 100/. sh. 8,204 V. West Middlesex ...Average 63/. 12s. Oct. sh. 1,800 1/ Its York Building Co. Lessee Prop ..... lOO/.sh. IRON RAILWAYS. 6,000 Birmingham and Derby 9,53)) Birmingham and Gloucester 1214 pd 7,500 ...... ... Birmingham, Bristol, and Thames Junction 13,e00 Bristol and Exeter IN/. sh. 10 pd 060 Calcutta and Saugur 504 sh. 21. pd 7,5.X1 Cheltenham and G. Western... lOW. O. 711. 3,00,4 Clarence lOOl. sh. 100/ pd 12,0 0 0 8000 61,000 Eastern Counties x5l. sh. 34 pd Brand Junction 1001. sh. 95/. p ! Great North of England 7l. pd 23.000 Great Western lOO/ sh. 55/. pd 2,0..0 Ilartlepool - 100/. sh. 1001. pd 2,000 Hull and selby WI. sh. 101. pd 10,11(10 Leeds and Manchester 1001. sh. 5/. pd 2,1110 21. per cent. Leeds and Selby 1011 Ah. 1,500 145.5. Leicester and Swannington ....501. sh. all pd 5,100 1(1 per cent. Liverpool and Manchester-10(1.8h. 100/. rel 10 per cent. Ditto Quarter Shares 25/. pd 36,000 London and Brighton 501. sh. 5/ pd 12,1.00 London and Blaekwall 541/. sh 31 pd 20,000 9 per cant. London and Greenwich 204 sh. 204 pd 25,000 London and Birmingham _lOOl. sh. 904 pd Ditto Quarter Shares 5/ pd 20,1.00 ..... ... London and Southampton 501. oh. 501. pd Ditto ditto New... .. 51./pd 7,000 7,11')0 Ditto Scrip 141. sh. 21. pd 12,000 ' London Grand Junction... ...... 50/. sh. 5/. pd 10,000 Manchester and Birmingham...so/.sh. 5/. pd North Midland 1001. oh. t.'s/. pd Northeen and Eastern lOOl. oh. r.l. pcl 2,600 Preston and Wyre SOL sh. 91. pd 2s, nOO „..... South Eastern and Dover ... 74 pil I,ioo 10/. per cent. Stockton and Darlington ....... lOO/.sh. 9,000 Thames Haven 504 oh 2!. 10s. pd 1,410 Westminster and Greenwich 512. sh. 2/. pd 6,000 York and North Midland 5O . sh. 31. pd MINES. 0 1 ,000 A lbion Copper 5/. oh. 34/. psi 4,0(X) 1/. ss. Alter] 151. oh. 121. lOs pd 111,000 ... ..... Anglo Mexican, iss. Si. pm...RAM. sh, all nd Ditto Subscription 0 .5/. pa 2,000 11. Rol .nos l5O/. sh all ixl 111,000 11. lOs Brazilian Imp. iss. Si. m a 35/. sh. 00/ pd 6,15 0 M :sealants it Cocatis United 25/sh. 233/. pd 11 ,1,00 ...... ... Ditto St. John Del Rey 201. sh. 94 pd 10,000 Bolivar Copper Company VI. sh. 211/. pd 10,000 .. ..... Ditto Scrip.... IC/. sh. 8/. pd 20,00) British Iron 50/. sh. 501 pd 6,000 Ilritisli Copper 5/. sh. 41/. pd Cata Branca... lll. pd Candonga 7;l. pd 10,000 11 Copiapo 2Ol. sh 121/ pd 8,500 ... Columbian, iss. W. pm. 2,850 31. English 20,000 General Mining Association...2o/. sh. 154 pd 6,155 Mexican Company 11/e/. sh. 5511. pd 3,000 Polberou Consols lO/, sh 84 rd 11,500 Real del Monte, Unregistered Ditto Loan Notes l5Ol. pd 30,000 United Mexican, iss. 2 pm ....404 sh. all pd Ditii. Scrip Ditto New Scrip 5l pd West Cork 50/. sh. 501. pd 1,000 1,500 London, with B ronze Ticket 75gs. sh. London University RAM sh all IKI il) 0 ...... ... Russell •2 5 ,55. sh. 15s Australian Agricultural...loo/. sh 2f pd King' College l o . oi 1 ; pd MISCELLANEOUS r L :e a n n t 1 6 ° ,1 " 100 41. per cent. British American Land Company 23/. p(1 10,000 61 per cent. Canada Company Navigation 1.71:1 . 3; '‘1631.1 pd 200,000 51 per cent. Upper Canasta 1. . . p Londe Com. Sate Rooms ......... Av. 754 sh. I 5' °°° 10/. l i i iie l Ga r . cent. nt . G eneralCl i u tY s f o 3n ' Sdts i a a m Stoc Caoutchouc Company 251. at.. 211. pd New Brunswick Land Company 4 . 1 t pd 2,754 5/. per cent. Reversionary Interat Soc.- 1001 . sh. 1004 pd 2,633 51. per cent. Ditto New 10e/. sh. 71. pd 4,00 10,000 Its. Van Due ner.'s Land ............ 1001. sh. 171. pd ---- 50,000 2,000 8,(10J LIST OF SCOTTISH COMPANIES' PRICES, OCT. 21. 1837. BANKS. 1,500,0041. 61. p. ct. Bank of Fcruland ......`3l. 6s Sd. sh. all pd 1001,'. x,000,011(1. 54 p. ct. Royal of Scotland 1004 sh. all pd Milt 500,01(1. Bp. et. Brltish Liucn Company 100/. sh. :,11 pd 23:f/ 3,0',10,00C1. 61. p. et. Commercial .5001. sh. 1001. pd 1711. 5.500,0005. i•. et Nmional lOO4 sh. 10/. pd 16/. 2,000,0001. 61. p. ct. Glasgow Union 250/. sh. 501. rti 681. 4,000,001. 4p. ct. Western of Scotland 2001. all 301. Pd aq. INSURANCE COMPANIES 25,.0005h 61p. ct. Scottish Union SO!. sh. V. pd ::68 - ,500 61 p. ct. Hercules lOO/. sh. 101. pd 131 Iss. 10C,000 sp. et. Insurance Co. of Scotland —.lO/. sit. all pd 81 5 0 , 00 0 6p. ct. North British 2OOl. sh. 10/. pd ILL 1,000 sp. et. Caledonian Fire 100/. sh. 10/. pd 181 is 5,060 Op. ct. Edinburgh bite 100/. sh. 101. IA 141105 100.000 3,1 p. ct. West of Scotland lO/. pd 7t OS MISCELLANEOUS. __. 4,810 EdirC:nd GT.Is Us. Caual 501. sh. all pd 221. Ditto AID 'cited 06/. sh. all pd 65!. 5,400 5 per cent. Edinb. Joist Stock Water 251. sh. all pd 341 . Carron Iron Company .250/. sh. all pd 451. 2,0005 h 15 per cent. Shotts Iron Foundery .501. sh 381. pd 431 10,00 3 per cant. Edinburgh & Leith G1a55...20/. sh. 16/. pd SAI. 4.5(X) 10 per cent. Edinburgh Coal Gas 251. sh. all pd 51)1 4,450 10 per cent. Glasgow Gas 251. sh. all pd 611. 750 7i per cent. Leith Coal Gas 2Ol. sh. all pd 451. 1,206 ... ...... Edinburgh gnd Dalkeith Rallway...so/. sh MI. 3,000 5 per cant. Lauttabla Loan Company 251. sh. 9/, pd 101. THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY, DECEMBER 5, 1837. WESTMINSTER MEETING. rests of that class He had consented to second the motion for an extension of the Suffrage, beeause he thought that the more often the subject was brought b. fore the public mind, and contemplated as one much desired by a large body of their fellow-citizens, and one %a hich was thought a bsolutely necessary, even in high places, the more likely would the great mass of Reformers be brought to agree upon one plan which would please all.—(Cheers.) At present their minds were not made up upon the subject ; therefore it was that he had seconded a motion which was se vague and undefined. He thought it Was a matter of great. importance that Re formers should not be divided, but that they should amicably discuss the question, and attempt to settle it in the best spirit that was possible. The most tolerant of all classes which he had ever met with was amongst th working classes—Amongst them he had seen a spirit of fairness and a spirit of tolerance which he had never seen—which he had long in vain en deavoured to find in the House of Commons —( Cheers. ) With the working classes we have all possible sympathy and every thing in common. It was by their exertions the Reform Bill was worked out, although it has not answered the ex pectations that were entertained of it. Be cautions how you give offence to the millions of the working classes—to these by whom we are in the habit of being taught the greatest lessons of morality, of strength of mind under difficulties, !and of power to resist corruption, which I would wish to see still further extended.—( Cheers.) I am anxious, Gentlemen, to enlist the generous masses of the working classes with the independent and intelligent citizens of your towns. I wish to see them united in one bond of unity, and raised up for a definitive purpose—for mind, we are not to In tricked or cajoled again. I wish to see them combined for some defini tive purpose. We must understand one another--but until then let us do all we can for our common country, fearlessly and manfully, for I am convinced that when properly under stood, the large constituencies throughout the country deeply sympathise with the working classes.--( Cheers.) Why should they not? The working classes want nothing but justice. Nothing peculiarly advantageous to . themselves. Much has been said of the ignorant and mistaken views of the working classes, but I would ask, have the present consti tuencies got right opinions? Are they not bought and sold again? Are they not supporters of a bad Ministry and a bad Government ? And still you dread the working men. Ig norant I I believe the working classes, on the average, the best informed men, while they detain the least share in the be nefits of the State. I shall give you a case of exclusiveness—ln Sheffield there is a Mechanics' Institute of 500 members, 240 of whom are masters, and 260 working men of the highest capa bilities, the elite of their class. Of these 240. only 3 in 5 have the franchise; and of the 260, only 1 in 26 have it.—(Cries of question.) That is the question.—(Uproar.) The question is, before we get faithful constituencies throughout the coun try, what extension of the franchise must take place ? A great body of the most intelligent men in the country are excluded under the present systern.—( Cheers.) But before I sit down, allow me to say one word with respect to the Gentlemen of the House of Commons. The repre sentatives of the people must be compelled to take up a posi tion, which shall not be misunderstood. We must have no more of the temporizing proceedings of the last few sessions. I was no party to the compact entered into at Lichfield-house between the Whigs and Radicals. I said at the time, and I say now, that the Radical party were wrong to enter into any compromise with the Whigs, unless they obtained a share in the Government.—( Hear, hear, and cheers.) Your Members must not be allowed to forget the great objects which you have in view, but must say, " we are the Representatives of the people, and we are op posed to all Governments that are not favourable to our views." The Hon. Gentleman concluded amid great cheering. The Resolution was then put from the Chair and carried with a few dissentient voices. Mr. WARBURTON, M. P., then came forward, and was greeted with loud cheers. He said that the question which he had been asked to come forward and support was the question of the Ballot.—(Cheers.) There was a time when it would ;have been necessary to :explain in an assembly like this what the Ballot meant, but now the three great questions of the Extension of the Suffrage, Short Par liaments, and the Ballot were the A B C of the political alphabet of almost every Englishman.—( Hear and cheers.) Therefore, it was not necessary for him to bring forward la boured arguments in favour of the Ballot; he considered that this opportunity was taken to bring forward public men to state their opinions as to the declarations lately made by the Mem bers of the Administration.—( Cheers. ) Lord Melbourne in the House of Lords had expressed approbation of the declara tions made in the House of Commons by his colleague, Lord J. Russell.—( Hear, hear.) He ( Mr. W.) had made it his object to ascertain the opinions not• merely of the public generally, but of those Members of the House of Commons in particular who had given their support to the Administration. Why, in private there was no difference of opinion among them, —( Hear, hear, hear,)—they all declared that they could not face their constituents if they continued to support the Government after its late declaration. ( [fear, hear.) He (Mr. W.) had not been so strong in the expression of his opinions as some gentlemen who had this day addressed them. Ile must declare himself (they might take offence at it or not as they pleased) a moderate Radical. —(Hear, hear, and laughter.) In an address lately pub lished by Mr. Roebuck to the working classes, that gentle man particularly admonished them above all things to be to lerant of differences of opinion. He ( Mr. W.) would give them the same advice, and not to regret the support of those who were sincerely favourable to good government because they did not go the same lengths as others.—( Hear, hear, and cheers.) His maxim had always been to take what he could get, in order that he might obtain power to get mere.— ( Hear, hear, and cheers.) Lord John Russell had stated that the three measures, the Ballot, Universal Suffrage, and Triennial Parliaments were so closely connected together that if one of them were granted, it would be made the means of obtaining the other two, and therefore he refused all of them.—(hear.) Whenever the question of the shor tening the duration of Parliaments, Universal Suffrage , or the Vote by Ballot, carne before the House, he would always support the one that might obtain the ; but if he was asked which he would choose first, he would say the Ballot.— ( Cheers, and cries of " No, no.") Ile would do so because he thought he was most likely to gain it first ; and when he had gained that, the inevitable consequence would be to get all the others. —( Cries of " All at once.") lie came for ward there being a moderate reformer, and having several of the Members of the Administration friends, and differing in some degree with many present, to express his opinion upon the present occasion, when he thought the liberties of the people were in danger. In his opinion, nothing but combination among the people, and meetings like the present, would enable them to achieve the victory they looked forward to. Lord John Russell had the other night disclaimed the notion of any coalition—he (Mr. W.) did not want any in form, but when lie saw the sentiments between the great leaders of both parties coinciding together, he could not hesitate in thinking that there was a coalition, both in substance and in appear • ante. What course ought to be taken to prevent such a coalition he would not say ; but he would observe that a com bination of the people in former times had brought about the desirable object of shortening the period within wilich their liberties would be gained, and lie had no doubt at the present time, if the people only had courage and prudence, they would disarm their enemies, and bring about that period that was so much to be desired—namely, their liberty from thraldom : added to this he would say with street truth that the combina tion of the people would be the best polar star by which the Members of the House of Commons would be guided in their deliberations. The Hon. Member concluded by proposing the next resolution. Colonel THOMPSON then presented himself, and was re ceived with loud cheering. He should have the less to say on the present occasion, because his conscience told him he had for the last two years been endeavouring to press upon them the necessity of procuring those reforms they had to-day met to sup port. He wished he hail possessed a rank and station that could have given power and effect to those sentiments, which he could not help very clearly framing, by the use of such operations, foresight, and experience as he had been able, in the course of his life, to procure. He was not one of those that had been taken by surprise. lie had been telling them for two years, in season and out of season, that they must tru-t to them selves, and they had now come to the great denotiement. Let them look back at the conduct they had seen on the part of the Arlinistly. They had heard of the Coercion Bill ; let them look to the Dorchester labourers.—( Cheers.) Then came the discussion of the Tithe Bill, and nothing would serve them but they must throw the whole interest of that numerous portion of the Established Clergy into the scale with the in jurious Corn Bill. —( Cheers.) What demon could possess the Whigs to endeavour to insult the working classes of this country by saying they must appear in a monkey dress before they could see the Queen ?—( Cheers, and cries of " Shame.") Why did those Ministers who were so desirous of peddling about the Queen take the young Queen to certain Operas ? Let them look in the Morning Chronicle of Friday last, and see whether that unhappy young woman was not taken to what he should have thought a direct insult to his daughter to be taken to—the Opera Buffo. In rho Morning Chronicle of Friday last, under the title of " 0; era Buffa," they would see that II Campanello was performed, which meant " the street door bell ;" and he would ask whether that was not a gross infringement on the public morals?—(Hear, hear, hear.) How could they trust an act in concert with such men as the present Ministry ? Had not the Parliament been chosen tin der false colours—under a feeling that the Whigs would bring forward and carry some measure for the benefit of the people. It was under such a feeling that he had refused to contest two places against Whigs, in one of which he was told he might be certain of success. His counsel to the people was to take the first measure they could possibly get, and use it as a means for getting more.--( Cheers.) He cordially seconded the motion, which was put and carried unanimously amidst loud cheers. Mr. O'CONNELL then came forward, and was received with the most loud and vehement cheering we ever remember to have heard. When the applause had in some degree subsided, Mr. O'Connell said Agitate—agitate—agitate !—( Tre mendous cheering ) I believe, if I possessed much common sense, I should commence and conclude my speech with these three words, agitate—agitate—agitate.—( Renewed cheer ing.) Everything now depends on your agitation. The Tories won't assist you, you all know—none of you ever ex pected it. The Whigs won't assist ) ou, although there were many who expected it. Therefore I say to the people, agi tate-,--agitate—agitate.—( Cheers.) You understand the playingstat it state of the gas—(Crieo of ‘i We do") an d there ia no successfully unless you play It for yourselves. Somebody has told you a story from Joe Millar about laying down in the mud—let me quote AEsop, quite as high an au thority. When the fellow got his cart-wheel into the rutt, and set about praying to Jupiter to take it out, he was told—You blockhead, put yopr shoulder to the wheel And lash your horses,—,(Cries of u sa r, hear.") This I say to you—don't be praying to W hi g s or Tories, but put your shoulders to the wheel yourselves, and lash your ( Mr. ROEBUCK'S Speech, continued from our First Edition of Yesterday.) I shall presume such to be the intention of this meeting ; and as they wish to know my real opinions with respect to that declaration, I shall speak them openly, and without reserve., The Government may protably be displeased wilt what I am about to say ; but I hold it that he who speaks the truth is the hest councillor.—( Cheers.) In what I am about to say, I wish - to draw one distinction. I am about' to speak of the Whigs, and I ask you to mark the distinction which I am about to draw with respect to them. The \Vhigs are com posed of party man, and those who support them out of doors. Those out of doors I consider as ardent, as honest, and as zealous Reformers as lam myself. They may differ with me vs to some points, but I do believe that they e equally desirous with me of good government; but it is Lot of them—it is of the place and profit-hunters—it is of the Parliamentary Whigs, with Lord John Russell at their head, that I aen about to seeak.—( A voice in the crowd, " I hope you will give them a good drubbing.") It may be said—l heve heard it said by the eloquent lips of a gentleman near me, whom you will have an opportunity of hearing, in the course of the day—that there ought not to be division amongst Reformers ; so say I too, but then Government are not Reformers. The Government are a small section of the Aristocracy—they are a class of Aristocratic Republicans, who are striving for place and for profit. The Aristocracy cannot all fatten upon the pubic, and what do the weaker classes do? They appeal to the masses, and by false and de lusive promises of Reform, they endeavour by the aid of the people to sustain themselves in power.—( Hear.) This, I say, is the character of the Whigs—they have been seeking your aid and sueport to keep themselves in place. They are Reformers by pretence, and are friends of the people only for their own paltry and selfish purposes.—(Great cheerin g .) It may be Asked of me why do you now change ? For five long yea s you have waited long and patiently, and in my mind too humbly, on the present Ministry. With false pro mises and glossing words you have been satisfied, and you have had no redress of your grievances. Now, however, your lime is come. It has been my fate to mix a good deal some months since with Parliamentary men, and to hear it gravely urged by the Ministers—" We cannot do all we wish to do— there is a poser behind which curbs our good intentions. We are enthralled—enchained. You are rather too rapid in the cause of Reform, and do not come in contact with those disagreeable persons who annoy us. There is a power which restrains us, which is about to change hands, and when that occurs you will see what we will do"—And we base secn.—( Hear, hear, and cheers.) While King William the IN'th lived, the Whigs were in daily fear of being turned out, and the only thine that kept them in power was your powei ful aid.—(Loud cheers.) That King passed away, and another Sovereign has come to the Throne. This Sovereign, it is said, is a friend to the Whigs, and Ministers immediately turn round and say, now is the time to get rid of our troublesome friends. We have been retained in power by these people against the machinations and influence of a Court ; we can now make such arrangements, we can make such admirable compromises, that we will be able to se cure a majority of what are called moderate men, technically (for I love to speak technically)—moderate Whigs and mo derate Tories, and we can discard our troublesome friends. If they had acted so on former occasions, they would have been at once turned out ; but now they have a favourable Court, and they have made a beginning.—( Hear, hear.) A coalition has been formed.—(Cries of " Yes," and " No.") If not, we shall see in ton,d whether the Whigs can hold office or not. I s ay to y electors of Westminster, and to every Reformer in the kingdom, tell your representatives not to support the Whigs in Parliament.—(Hear, hear.) Let us also become politicians. The Whigs have played the peo ple.—(Tremendons cheering.) We have friends game against us —the y have moved their Queen—let us m in o t v h e e House the of Commons—let us test their value and see who and how many they are ; a small number will be sufficient— a dozen brave men who will be ready to say, now is come the time—now is the, period arrived when we shall test you—you are this night either a reforming Ministry, or to-morrow you will be none at all.—( Loud and continued cheering.) But I see a friend—if he will permit me to call him so—and I would appeal to his great authority to aid the people of England in this important struggle for their liberties.—( Loud cheers.) That friend is the Hon. and Learned Member for Dublin.—[Here Mr. O'Connell rose, and, taking off his hat, said to Mr. Roebuck, " I am proud to call you friend. "]— ( Cheers.) I had no doubt of his kind feeling towards me, but I deeply felt my own unimportance to call him friend. ( Cheers. ) I ask him and the party who support him to assist us in our struggle—the answer is, " The Tories will come in if the Whigs arc turned out, and Ireland will be surrendered to the well-known tender mercies of the Orangemen." Now I will meet my Honourable and Learned Friend upon this, which I take to be the whole sum and substance of his ar gument—thus—you tell me that the Government of the Whigs has been beneficial to Ireland. I ask what hoe been their legislation? An accident may deprive Ireland to-morrow of her friend, Lord Mulgrave—an accident may turn out the \Vhigs to-morrow—and then what have they done for Ireland? —( Cheers.) I will tell him what the people of England have done for Ireland. —( Cheers mingled with slight hisses.) He is no friend to Ireland who interrupts me.—( Loud cheers.) The people of England, by the simple expression of their opinion, by their known intelligence, good feeling, and benevolence, have compelled every Minister since the Reform Bill passed, to consider that Ireland must be governed by England, ar.d if the Tories were to come in to-morrow, they would not dare to repeat their former conduct.—(Cheers.) With Mr. O'Connell in the House of Commons, and 60 Members at his back, and able as he is to stir up the people of Ireland front one end to the other, would the cautious Sir Robert Peel, cool, calculating, prudent politician as lie is, presume so to out rage the feelings of the people of England.—(Cheers. ) Why, if the Tories were to come in to-morrow, we should have a batter Municipal Corporation Reform Bill for Ireland. My Hon. and Learned Friend knows that the Municipal Re form Bill for Ireland, on which and by which the Whigs pos • sessed their power, was a mere mockery.—( Loud cheers.) It was a party measure.— ( Cheers.) So was the Church Bill.—( Cheers.) The appropriation of the revenues of the Lish Church !! Why, good God, if we had not beenthe at their backs with sharp words, they would have given up whole of it.—( Cheers.) Who perpetrated the most atrocious measure against Ireland ? Why, the Whigs.—(Cheers.) Where did it come frees? Why, from the Office of Lord Melboul ne—from the Home Office of Lord Melbourne.— ( Cheers. ) From that Office came the Coercion Bill — ( Tremendous cheering)—and yet, forsooth, we are to be told that they had the cause of Ireland at heart. — ( Cheers. ) Can a man ch Inge his opinions in an hour ?—(Cheers. ). Now, let met me tell you a little of the Whigs.—( Cheers.) The \Vhigs came into office in 1330. They said—Now, we are here, we must take care and keep so.—( Cheers and laughter.) What did they do for that purpose? Why they thought of tie Reform Bill, they said they knew it was too good to pass, but still they would have the credit of it.—(Cheers.) Bat the people, when the measure was introduced, said they would have it, and they pressed them in such a manner as to compel them to leave office. Talk of the generosity of the Whigs carrying the Reform Bill—generceity, indeed—whY it was carried in spite of th en.—( Loud cheering.) Why, what did they do? Why, finding the people pressed them so closely they permitted the Tories to pull it to pieces and to mangle it.—( Cheers.) They allowed the Marquis of Chandos to introduce the 501. clause, and other parties to in sert clauses, equally obnoxious, and this they called reform. They were frightened at their own measure—they thought they had infused a spirit of stubborn democracy into the Commons, but I never saw a House more abject.—(Hest, hear, and laughter.) The Whigs had the power of doing what they liked in it—and what do you think they did like ? Why, the Irish Coercion Bill.—( Hisses.) They next brought in a Coercion Bill for Canada My friend says that the Whigs would not bring in en Irish Coerc , .on Bill now, but I ask him to point out to me the difference between the Irish Coercion Bill and the Canadian Coercion Bill. Oh, yes. there is dif f Tence. One hail Lord Grey at its head, and the other Lord Melbourne ; and there is this difference too—Canada has not 7,000,000.—( Cheers. ) I heard my Hon. ant! Learned Friend say, " Aye, we are seven millions—(Cheering, and a cry of " Question," which was put down by cheering which lasted some minutes.) Question? Why, what is the question? The Whigs are our theme, and I am but making my commentary on that.—( Hear, hear, and a cry of " Give us Canada.") Give you Canada !—( Hear.) Why, they are about to lose it.—( Cheers.) lam going on with the history of the Whigs.—( Hear, hear.) Well, when they came into office with Lord Melbourne, they said they would be quite different people in future. But we got nothing from them except the English Municipal Reform Bill, and we would not have got that if they could have helped it, but the could not have a show of support but fur that measure.—(Ch y eers. ) But what did they do with the Irish Municipal Reform Bill ? Am Ito be told that they could not have passed it if they liked ? Why did they not put it into one Bill with the English measure? No, but they wished to keep Ireland in the condition of a distant colony in which they could play off their own intrigues.— ( Hear, hear.) We got the Municipal Bill, and that is all; but we have got no reduction in the burdens of the people. Lord John Russell, in bringing in the Reform Bill, said that those three things which he now denounces—Universal Suffrage—the Ballot —and Short Parliaments—were questions open for discussion. These were his own words. But now I hear Reformers saying that they regret Lord John Russell's impolitic Hear, and a l au gh.) The people but Lord J o hn Russell unc l e - declaratio n ; but I acknowled g e, I am much o h b a l d ige b d een to te h e im e . o --- rfding, ceived them. The Whigs say that they wished to preserve the predominance of the landed interest. They sty that the Reform Bill has done that, and they are very well satisfied with it. That is to say, the Whigs arc now avowed Conser vatives.—( Hear, hear.) I beg of you to consider with me, what the character of these men—what is their conduct with respect to the morality of the people? They call upon the people to sacrifice their means of living to keep the Tories out of office—they ask them to brave the landowners—to brave the rich and the powerful—and to sacrifice the means of sup porting themselves and their families, but they refuse to give them the protection of the Ballot.—(Hear, hear.) We show them that the most demoralising corruption, bribery, and perjure , are going on in every corner of the kingdom, and that the national mind is deteriorated, but they refuse to give U 9 the remedy. Now I ask you fist to ascertain what you are to demand—what is the course you are yourselves to follow and dictate to your representatives? My friend has proposed to you universal suffrage. Now we come to debatable ground. They had heard a letter read from a Noble Lord who was an honour to that high station.—( Cheers.) He would read one which had been written by the working men of the metro polis, in order to show why he seconded a motion for the mere extension of the Suffrage. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman read along letter from the Committee of the Workingmens' Association, calling on the meeting to take care of the inte7 Is' 5} (:3 100 5 . there was a f the horses.—(Cheers, and cries of " Bravo I") You perceive in but are you aware that in ijerity o T olis') Members--that there was a II was then one word that you have occasion to agitate, and lam not sorry eri,, , ~. your Reform Bi , i _ for it • I like agitation—l was bora an agitator—( Cheers and Scottish Members—and that , it sent over by the laughter)—and if there is not a strong boll of me in the passed by the overpawering majo. u y ion the Church-rate. grave I shall not only be an agita•or through We but I shall Irish people. I have voted with you 1 . te Refer:A.—l u ion the Corpora majority these agitate in the grave.—(Che.-rs.) No man ever deserves to question--I voted for i o . I . n for all o t . have a friend that is not a friend to himself; and the people voted for the Scottish Reform Bill. assisting E n glishmen? --- never can procure liberty until they appreciate its advaetages, questions—then have I not been Euglishmen an.l exert themselves to maintain it. —( Cheers. ) All parties (Chee s.) At all times when the interest; of N ote have the same interests to induce them to remain in power— were i.t jeopardy I have always beenl am TcadY they are anxious to obtain its emoluments and do as lit le as they ready still to vote in the same way.—( y in , and therefore can. The people, on the. contrary, have an interest in obtaining now to do the same as if I were now beginning, assist _noishmen, go rd and cheap government, and if they expec`. it from any there is no necessity for an appeal to me o b questions whiell at_nileyerpslt ; and I am any quarter but themselves they are miserably deceived. If —(Cheers.) I shall vote for all of the three they you are asked to agitate, you should know upon what basis it have been discussed to-day, whenever it or. te end proper should be established. You * cannot expect combination un- before the House of Commons in a legitihme• abrought forward less you render its basis and results intelligible. Short Par. manner.—( Cheers.) These questions may the posai• liamerits is my basis. I put it first, not because it is the best at a time when other circumstances may preventan injury. In measure, but because it is that which my resolution embodies ; bility of my voting for them without doing them, a late oat and to it I add the Ballot and the extension of the Suffrage.— sach a case I will use my discretion, as I,,did up "these quese ( Veh 'meat cheers.) As to short Parliaments I shail say sion ; but I distinctly pledged myself that are brought something presently—the Ballot you all understand already ; tions are brought forward in a direct ai ' i l d he on ea but with respect to the extension o f the Suffrage, you have a mintier, my vote shall be for time people of England p. be Mialatry, right to ask what Iman by it. I quart el with no man as to his and all of them.---( Cheers.) I s care not who are t friend s n trai explanation of the term, but I mean Universal Suffrage.— and I ought not to be appealed to by my honours e e _ lll (Great applause. A voice in the crowd—" The 40s. free- Mr. Roebuck, for I most cordially voted with. *him n A utPalentee holders.") I will come to that, you bloelshead, presently.— Canadian questions, and I tell my honorable and excel talent gu htforwar? (Great laughter.) The question reminds me of this, that I friend that Ido not give in to him —tkat he does not e' o "; .. am the only man in this assembly who was ca ll e d u p on , o n his in any respect for that people, e.nd in indignation theirOf him at oath, to express his opinion upon what the Suffrage ought to pressers. I voted with him last session—l voted with s ~ eters be. I was examined on oath before a Cominetee of the a time when one unfortunate majority against the V e ) " late House of Lords, and a question was put t o me by the late might have certainly put it in the power of t all the Lord Liverpool on the subject, and I d ec l are d my c conviction King to turn them out, and have left my country to s. . i • that it ought to be universal.—(Great applause.) lam the horrors of a Tory—of an Orange ascendancy.—( Cheers. / re.. only man who sands pledged upon oath to that opinion. 11. voted against the Ministers on every occasion relating to t: . was exactly the 40s. franchise which brought that question nada ; and I now feel that in the al:sence of her talented.eB" under consideration. Being examined on oath, I described voca - e I, aid those whom he has left behind him favourab.el '; the mischief occasioned by one branch of the 40s. franchise, his views, are obliged to redouble our exertions ; and I li 9 in Ireland, which was held by the payment of an enormous myself to him th a t up o n every possible occasion, when there ed rent and no profit—making a 40s. freeholder in fact the pro- a division, I shall be found doing my duty to the o pp ress party of his landlord.—(Hear, hear.) I was then addresse d people of Canada.—( Loud cheering.) I pledg e myself to ssue b by Lord Liverpool thus: "then y our op i n i on i s , that that my esteemed friend that if the measures be such as we formsL species of franchise has all the evils of Universal Suffrage." fear they will—l pledge myself to him that so far a s the itu My reply was: "My Lord, my opinion is, that Universal of Parliament will allow, I shall take every possible OPl l °, O 1 Suffrage would cure all these evils."_( Bursts of applause.) nity of into , posing delay.—(Loud cheering.) And why L: te a I could not take the hint, for I was on my oath ; but Ibe say that ? Because the same policy .su long a do the lieved in my conscience that Universal Suffrage was a good in unfortunate Ireland—the same miserable pol ic y e the thing. I know that I have been calumniated upon that point— same tyrannical 'policy has been a d o pted towards t h e upon what point have I not been calumniated ?—( Cheers)— Cana lien people. As in my u n f or t una te country , li d ,_ but listen for one moment to the fact. When the Catholic employees, as the pcor French call th em , a re supporte tbye Emancipation Bill was passing through Parliament, accompanied this tvrannical Government, and they are trampling uratiiere by a measure for the annihilation of the forty-shilling fran- Canadians. Why, what have they done ? The peel ) did chise, I called a meeting at the Thatched House, which have a House of Commons to regulate their supplies. The was attended by sixty-five peers, and delegates from the Irish regulate their supplies; but that tyrannical faction ro en s . people ; and we then prepared a petition, the prayer of which their Exchequer without the consent of that House of Comintitcy was not to grant emancipation at such a price.—( Cheers.) They lost the privileges of their ancestors—they fought--; over That is the basis on which we stand. If it were not so late I bled, to recover them; for that they have been hand eu . w ill should like to discuss this question with you. Recollect this, to the controul of a faction.—( Loud cheers.) There t honesty .- that your combination (you have approved the basis) to be meet my friend foot to foot; I share with him in his bellieet effective must not be the mere raisin of your voices here though I cannot in his eloquence.—( Cheers.) Recollect this day. You will never agitate by op. th a t. Y o u must th a t ever y G overnment i n I re l an d, up to t h e presen t, has a agitate hour by hour, day by day, and week by ported the Canadian faction in Ireland—the Orangemen tale g week, if you have leisure, and no man is honest who robbed the people of their property—stained their that cannot find leisure to devote to the service of his fields with their blood—forget you—oh I I have told the country.--( Hear, hear.) Agitation to b e use f u l must so oft—the little girl, who, leading her aged grandsire t.e.b; include combination, it must include an Association—(Great s unn y spot, was sh o t i n hi s arms by th e m i n i ons o f the 'rn ue cheering)—an Association to sit from week to week—an As. system--( Loud groans)—Forget you—th e o dious system de l i . sociation that it will be the duty, as well as interest, of every which the unfortunate culprit was consigned to the t en e a man to attend—an Association that w ill i n clude amongst its mercies of an Orange jury, selected by a partizan sheriff, a ," ts 1 members the representatives of th e p eo pl e , an d whose proceed- was tried by a party judge—justice being thus polluted in .b i at i ngs it will be the interest of the press to report.--( Hear, very shrine.—(Groans and loud cheers.) Forget you-- to hear.) We began in Ireland with an Association that con- there are seven aged Tory Judges who yet cling with desn era e sisted only of a few members—its numbers increased from day tenacity to the bench i n I re l an d— an d w hy? Let b ut th e to day until it swelled to about 14,000. Peel, with all Tories come in for one hour, and these seven antiqua te , hi s cunning—Wellington, with all his bravery, were Judges will be repl ace d by th e faction—such antiquate, obliged to yield before the power of that Association.— as Sergeant Jackson, Sergeant Lefroy, or Recorder Sha 0.. f or ( Cheers.) It has been said that the people of England gained You see that we have an interest in the maintenance of the P r us emancipation. I feel grateful to them for the assistance sent Government. England is a country proverbial _ which they rendered us, but I deny the assertion.—(Hear, common sense. Will any man deny to me the fact that the hear.) It was not the people of England that carried that are seven Judges ready to resign if the Tories come in ? " . „ measu re—it was the agitation of Ireland.—(Cheers.) Now ( Hear, bear.) Will any man , on th e con t rar y, deny that t', , what the people of Ireland did, it is natural to suppose the Tories could at once put in their places seven of their own fri en n people of England can also do. Nothing was ever done yet men like Sergeant Jackson, like Mr. Litton, who lost: that can't be done over again.—(Laughter and cheers.) fortune in a strugg a le for a seat in Parliament—like Mr. Sh ag, a Do you want short Parliaments? Do you want the Ballot? Mr. Lefroy, or Mr. Brewster a gentlema n w ho purchase" Do you want Universal Suffrage? Combine to get them.— large property by the fruits of his professional labours, an ( Loud cheers.) Remember you have an advantage which we whose first step was to turn out all his Roman Catholic te, O nce had not in Ireland. One of the atrocious acts of the Irish nastry ?—(" Shame.") Would not the Tories find at e n ' Tories was its Convention Act, which prohibited all meetings seven bigotted, intolerant, and. partial men excluding even by delegation for any political purpose.—(Hear, hear.) You those I have named ?—(Hear.) Would they not have the 'V ..: may have representatives from every village —every town— portunity to do so, and did the Tories ever miss the opP el every district.—( Cheers.) Elect your representatives.— tunity ?—( Cheers, and laughter.) Englishmen, I fling 11 1.; (Cheers.) I don't want you to call it a Convention. In self and my country upon you—in all your struggles for lib er u a a neighbouring country one assembly under that name per- we have stood beside you, and I now ask you will you sta „ petratcd such horrible atrocities that I proscribe the name, by us in turn ? —(Tremendous and reiterated cheetthr I hate the thing so much—(Loud cheers)—let it be " the ing.) Work for you r own lib ert i es — wor k for P A Great English Association."—( Tremendous cheers.) Don't own rights—work for your privileges—the Tories will n ) let the meeting pass away without any solid resolution ; this give them to you.—( Cries of " No, no—nor the whigs•__ is a working speech. I care not what praise you give it if it Ton are quite right—they will not unless you compel thein• or do not produce a working society.—(Cheers.) lam Presi- (Laughter and cheers.) But I was interrupted in what I for dent of the Working Men's Association in Dublin ; they are about to say—listen then to what an Irish blunderer says , all excellent workmen.—(Laughter and cheers.) I like a good the accent is upon my tongue mounting in sounds which a re ) job.—(Laughter.) Therefore I say, Associate asso- by some called musical, by others melancholy.--( Hear, he a r ) ciate—associate.—( Hear, hear, and tremendous cheers.) But we Irish never commit the blunder of turning out wh at The revolution of the Reform Bill passed without doing injury bad to get in what is worse.—( Hear, and laughter.) If e Y eo to any one ; nobody lost by it but political knaves and rogues. turn out the present Ministers and put in the Radicals—s", t _( Cheers.) Ido not wish to have any revolution attended me but the opportunity Of doing that—( Great cheering)s - e by riot and tumult—still less by one drop of bloodshed.— to turn out the Whigs for the purpose of' putting in the ( Cheers.) But peaceable, political regeneration—Ole this ries—that would be indeed an egregious blunder.—( Hear , an is the first aspiration of my throbbing heart ; I desire it as I cheers.) Let us then assist you, for I tell you, Englishine r n i do the light of a blessed eternity ; I 'Nish for it as for the hap- that we would not a ssist you e xce pt u p on p r i nc iple. I piness of the dearest pledges of affection that ever a human found a pa r ty in this c o u nt r y, w hi c h, b e i ng R a di ca ls like 11 1 . being had.—( Loud and long-contittued cheering.) That self, would not join to protect the poor people of Irel ails is the animating principle of my entire life, the principle the peasant's hut and the widow's cottage, from the foul g a " le ,of ameliorating and invigorating the institutions of this coon - of Orange domination, I would not join them. —( Loud chee rs. _ try.—( Cheers.) Are we unreasonable in requiring that the It has been said, and said coolly, that the people of Eng °o i Reform Bill should be reformed? I should wish to put it to the did not support the Coercion Bill.—( Cries of " no, no.) e sober mind who thinks that we are going too far..--( Cheers.) deny that, it is a calumny upon the peopl e o f E n gland to ga it ' , What has the Reform Bill produced? Has it produced the that they did not support the Coercion Bill. —( Cries of .5r1 , 0 expectations formed with respect to it or not by the public at no.) Is it not too bad that such nonsense should be talked l'i., large ? Certainly not. The advantages it was stated would me ? Why the people of England had just returned Reforn le ; be derived from the Reform Bill, are they not a mockery ? to Parliament; they were few to be sure but honourable me, —( Loud cheering.) Before the Reform Bill, there was as they were they supported the Coercion Bill.—( Some Olt direct nomination—that was bad enough ; but what have we fusion.) What, however, does my friend Mr. Roeht, now 2—( Cheers.) It is true we have not direct nomination, propose to me to do ?—I will never vote for the W i t:, but we have worse—we have nomination by bribery and cor- when they are wrong—( Cries of " hear, hear) —but iit' ruption.—(Cheers.) The Ministry who supported the Reform he says the people of England will do mighty things, an d that s , Bill are now supporting a system of fraud, bribery, and per- we may rely upon their honesty, determination, and firnine i l , jury—they are therefore supporting immorality. In one instance I cannot help asking you where is this great propensity to t e at you have them supporting the instruction of the people, and form to be seen ?—( Hear, hear.) Recollect the great ine, l L e in another you have them sanctioning corruption and bribery. powers, the elopence, the irresistible logic, and the steriZ What occurred in England at the last election ? Look at the honesty of ray friend, Mr. Roebuck, and when we to bribery that took place there. Any man who would sanction these things in connection with the fact that he has b e ', such proceedings, I care not what his denomination might be, rejected by a large constituency of Englishmen, I ask Y n di Atheist, Pagan, Mahometan, Calvanist, Catholic, or what where is the proof of it? Oh, shame upon the people of rut not, I say he is not a Christian.—( Cheers.) The Tories now for rejecting such a man as my friend, Mr. Roebuck, t ° i n ) -- .y 'come upon me and say you are not satisfied with the Reform in my Lord Powerscourt.—(Cheers, and some confu s a l° t he Bill, but we are. Sir Robert Peel said he was satisfied with Recollect, gentlemen, I am not here as the advocate 01 do it. To be sure he was—and that was the very bast reason why Whigs, but as the friends of Ireland.—( Uproar. ) Y.:'„a it should be reformed. Ile was the friend of Gallon and Old not seem to understand the difference. I ask every hen ea ' t he Sarum, and such corrupt boroughs-as those, and surely lie reflecting man—has not every Irishman a deep interest inwith would be the friend still of any thing that savoured of cur- present Government ?—(Cheers, and cries of No.) Ig ° o f ruption.—(Cheers.) I am sure that all who surrouud me y ou to the fullest extent in principle ; lam the advoca t l i a are not •satisfied with the Reform Bill, and they will join your rights. I preached only the other day at Norw.iclia, with me in endeavouring to get it reformed. lam for short- political sermon, in which Universal Suffrage, Short Pa r , be cuing the duration of Parliament, but its term applies to the merits, and Vote by Ball o t were m y t ext ; b ut I would d r aw flexity of its theory. The resolution of 1788 fixed it at three consulting the inte r ests o f m y coun t r y men , were I not to the ir j years; let it be so now, and I will venture to assert that great the distinction a s t o w h o were th e i r f r i en d s an d who la good will be effected by it. There is, theref o re, not hi ng so • enemies.—( Hear, hear.) Let us go back for a little. , useful as fixing the duration of Parliament. You will have 1834-5 the Tories came into power; and whom did th e A r la a n p d then another advantage, and it is this, that there is not a hu- point to wait upon the person of the King ? The - ' r e e d man being who, knowing when the Parliament is t o be dig - Master of the Orangemen in Ireland I Who was alir,'""sc. solved, will not be prepared with a form , whatever it may be , to the head of time Ordnance Department ? The Gra n " r iel of showing his title to vote. He will not be going year after cretary, C o l one l P erceva l I A n d whom did they create Pear, year before Revising Barristers, and put to trouble and ex- Councillors ? Recorder Shaw and Dr. Lefroy 1— ( ,bat pense, but he will know the period the election is to take hear.) There was a majority in Parliament against \ ire place, and he will prepare himself for that period-4 Cheers.) Administration, and its downfall was easily foreseen. bu t 'lhit will put an end to that constant association-of attorneys heard a great deal es to what they were to do for Ireland, 0, arid jobbers that worry the people at the franchise registry, no one gave heed to their promises. For my peat I wo ul e a t i ; r i and anticipate bribery before the election.—( Cheers.) The for an ounce of good to a bushel of promises.—(Laug s u o eh Ballot you have had sufficiently discussed, and I sin sorry to Oh !my heart shall burst with gratitude to you, if, r th umy detain you. —( Go on, go on.) If the Ballot were adopted, your exertions, Ireland is relieved from oppression—to yne__ed there would be an instigation to popularity.—( Hear.) When feelings bend—my heart is towards you. I have wit e n b s e ' eu a man knows he cannot bribe or intimidate—when he knows scenes in Ireland that made my heart shudder—l have upos that he can be returned to Parliament only from the love and before the Bench, and what I saw there made me look 9. _ s i affection of his fellow-countrymen—when he knows the secret it as a scene of the greatest mockery. There the magi _" 001 , vote will express the real sentiments of the voter, will it not truckled to the opulent few, and dealt harshly to th e e oe P dtte t be a powerful stimulant to every human being who has a Par- Thaek God, the lime is now arrived when such co n sen t liamentary ambition, so to conduct himself that every body will be checked and controlled. The measures of the in thin e who goes into the Ballot-box will carry with him an affection Ministers are tending to so great an end, "4 try w" for the man he votes for.—(Cheers.) The Ballot will be the it is but justice in us to support in principle, the Minis t,9 are first step to make it the interest of every man to be the best man have brought such measures forward. It is the po or are n his neighbourhood. One is the stimulant of vice; the other the Magistrates fasten their fangs on. TheY ano e is the highest and best incentive to virtue.-- (Cheers.) As ground down in Ireland in the most inhuman .: 111 t h e ir he went along the streets even he would be pointed at as the Humanity is a word that is not written i :vtnes seci man whom his neighbours thought so well of, and that in the language, and, oh, the oppressions that I have eoes er absence of intimi Wiwi or undue influence, and in the total against the poor of my beloved country, it is out of the of the absence also of bribery, he had been proclaimed by their votes of human language to express. These are the works erder tha t as being in their superior judgment, the very best man they Tories. Let us all then join against the To. ie's, l n wan t.--- - could possibly elect.—( Cheers. ) Englishmen, I call on you the people may carry out the great purposes they the ho in the n a m e o f that virtue you respect to rally round a system (Great cheering.) Dont throw out of your ea k o . n , ,; t h that will put an end for ever to immorality and vice.— nest people of Ireland.—( Cheers. ) They alw%alyis) j 1 c. . d never ar ( Hear arid cheering.) One word for my favourite princi- you in fighting your battles. The flag of Ene bleilig held V pie of Universal Suffrage. I say YOU cannot get justice peared foremost ia the blaze of battle without c , iuiste r . s. without Universal Suffrage, because the very principle of our Ei.glam:, Ireland, and Scolland. If we shall oi h ns e e e s " 1 nan i m ous In Constitution is, that it is robbery to take one penny out of our io we should be just with them. We should and she is own pockets except by tax. Now, who is it in England wl demanding extension of the Suffrage, the Ballot, in the hands °,l is not taxed? NVh my friend the 40s. freeholder it e of Parliament.—( lit. ( Cheers.) Let us not leave in (pointing to an individual in the room, which create much any minion of the Crown the right of fixing tit . . cl out, but let ) , Every man who has not assented Let the great principle of combination be came _ (Cheer s "' laughter) even pays taxes. by his represent itive hedone •mined fmanner. Let to a tax is robbed either by himself or Mr. H • But I will du this for him. My worthy friend, Harvey', Let your A ssocistions be of proper material..—roan, the ge n e has said that lie would not take six shiilings and eight pence them be the representative of the poor Let the vs) t : in the pound from any one who had the ability to . pay twenty try, and the middle classes.—( Cheers.)t , _ ra i s ed_ 0 shillings. I would also act in the same manner if I had any of this meeting and of the whole co u u e n h r t y e Du -11 whole fehsrot. mewls of making him pay, but if I have a cavilling and a fraedu. that pitch that it may be urged through Stone walls lent debtor, and have no law to make him pay, then a friend of St. Stephen's, and through the n doing so show olio comes forward and offers me 63. 81., I would at once the Star CharnLer.—( Cheering. ) l that they are been gladly take it as the best substantial instalment. I can get, gratitude to the Irish people—recollect eo lc who have _awn but I will not give a receipt in full.—( Cheers. ) I .do not give third of the empire—that they are a P despair , that the d ) . one voucher in diecharge, but being more merry and strong crushed down to the very verge of d e sp i a thern. _ ( cheer s : :, by means of the instalment, Igoon to look for the remainder of kindness is but just breaking in ur t l r e R e neal ef the areal of of the debt. So, should the Ministry and the Parliain lit wish net to agitate the question of d to r be parn d P e avil come forward and offer me an extension of the Suffrage, I will again—l wish the people of Ireland to la bay n __, do all in my power in order to give every Englishman a vote. the British Empiee.( Great I eI love that count:flyers:evil Wo might %IA for Household Suffrage—even for that I would spoken to you of Ireland—how love,_ deep ly () i g n t hat vote, though there are many lodgers who are as well able i but myself can tell. That ' l' I was b I ner y tilY to vote as their fellow-citizens.—( Cries of " Come to the 1 on the tablets of my heart.—(Ch eers. ' and beauti4el sc d beaut ie Mi n i str y.") I will come to them preenkly. Anappeal has I beloved land, aritoeg her green her s ublime an d becern ° been made to me by qne of the most powerful intellects that childhood was spent—l roved among ._ hoe , an -- wild mountain tive land',tb, had ever been placed in anybody; the body was small, but ful itieuntains—l grew up a 0 , me na but ' freedom the mind was filled with honour.---(Clieere.l He appealed ,in hive with the majestic scenerroyee of my a ev slavi"- , '4. fr ee—. to me to assist Engliehmen. What heye been doing all I ( Cheering.) I found my countrys ~...... i the spirit i : ) ,i c tort --/ * along ? Have I net been assisting Englishmen ? In 1831 i,iron had not entered their souls ._ map y a you will remember that the Reform Bill passed twice, ' lived in their hearts—l led them 0 la 110 pre fe w real