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.• I. . • . „ .. 4 ,4 5... , / ,,,, 81L .... `s , 4,A, r : `v, - ---A fv, tt Vibttion SUN OFFICE, Seven o' Clock. RAILWAY COMMITTEES. (THIS DAY) Sub-Committee No. 1. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition.) BOSTON, NEWARK AND SHEFFIELD. Mr. Ellicombe appeared for the promoters. The witnesses to prove the deposit of the plans, sections, and books of reference, having been examined, Mr. Burke appeared on the petition of the owners of land on the line. The that allegation was that the parish of Averham was omitted from the book of reference deposited with the clerk of the peace and at the Private Bill-office. Mr. ELLIUOMBE called a witness, who stated that Stathorp, which was the township of the parish of Averham, was in the books of reference, but that the line would only go through the township. The Committee decided that the standing orders in this instance, had not been complied with. The next allegation was that the plans and sections were not duly deposited with the clerks of the peace for the several districts through which the line is to run. Mr. BURKE called Mr. Gibbs, the engineer to the line. Mr. BURKE—Is there a branch from hock in g to Splding? Witne,s—There is. Mr. BunKE is there a section to show that branch? Witness—There is not. Mr. Behr,:—ton stated, when first examined by Mr. Ellicombe, that the plans and se; thins were duplicates. of each other, but Lore is a complete sectio n entirely onn , te I. The Cir.sinsias— You most distinctly stated, when the plans were put in at the com mencemer t of the present in quiry, that the plans a nd sections were duplicates of each other. Witness—l stated that the plans and sections, as drawn by me, were duplicates of each other; but since then, I un derstand, some alteration has been made in the powers of the Bill. which must account for the omission. The CHAIRItAN—This must be explained, for at present there is no pis of as to the plans. Mr. ELLICOMBE called the assistant-engineer, who said that the plans and sections were altered subsequently to Mr. Gibbs having seen them—the section No. 1 omitted, that of No. 2 substituted, which took the branch in. Mr. BURKE would deny this on the face of the Bill ; he would prove that the standing orders in this most import ant instance were not complied with. It being now half-past three o'clock, the Committee said they would adjourn to twelve o'clock on Tuesday. Sub-Committee, No. 6. (Continued front our Afternoon Edition.) LONDON, SALISBURY, AND YEOVIL JUNCTION. This Bill has fur its object the making of a line from the station of the South Western Railway at Basingstoke, to Yeovil, the length of which will be 73 mites, and the cost, a' estimated, 1,900,0001. Mr. J. Locke is the engineer, and Messrs. Webster and Co., the Parliamentary agents. Against this line there were several petitions, mostly upon the ground that the plans and sections were incorrect, and calculated to mislead, and one contained an allegation that the parish of Clifton Maybank was not named in the notice. Mr. 'enables appeared for the petitioners. The petition of Mr. A. C. Bridge, in which it was stated that there was already a line of railway passing through his property, contained the allegation that there was in the Gazette notice no mention of the parish of Clifton Maybank, through which one of the branches would pass. Mr. WEBSTER said that the parish was mentioned. Mr. VENABLES contended that the parish ought to be named in the notice of the Yetminster branch. Mr. WEBSTER contended that this was not necessary, and that if the parish was named in the notice at all it was sufficient. After a long discus ion on the point, the Committee de cided that the star ding orders were not complied with. The second allegation of this petition was that in the plans denc:sitedlNith the clerk of the peace for the county of Dorset there was no mention of a branch leaving the alter native line. Mr. VENABLES explained that there were two branch lines, which, in the plans deposited with the clerk of the peace, were both represented as leaving the main lino, while in the 8.11 and notices one was represented as leaving the alternatire line. There were several other allegations de pending on this, one of which was that there teas no section of the branch from the main line in the parish of Yetnrinster. The Clerk of the Peace for the county of Dorset handed in the plans in question. In the course of the discussion it appeared that the mileage was incorrectly marked. The Committee reserved the point as to the sections: till their next meeting. At about quarter to four o'clock the Committee adjourned to Tuesday next Sub-Committee No. 2. DrligECT LONDON AND MANCIXESTER. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition.) The usual formal proofs were gone through. The first peti ion against the Bill taken was that cf Mr. W. Egerton, which alleged that in the township of Cheedle Moseley the description in No. 89 in the book of reference and in the plan was wrong, Elishia Warren being stated to be the owner, and Sarah Fyides, the occupier, the trne owner Icing Mrs. Anna Maria White, and the occupier of the same, William Bailey. Mr. Plitt appeared for the petitioner. Mrs. White l roved the incorrectness alleged, and also that she had not been served with a notice. The petition next alleged that there was a similar inaccu racy with respect to the property numbered 91, Peter Puwnall being described as the owner, and Isaac Falconer as the oc cupier a the same. The allegation was sustained. Several other similar allegations were abandoned. It was also alleged that in No. 4.1 in the plan the road de scribed as an occupation road and the property of the petitioner was a public highway, and the property of the surveyors, who had not been served with due notice. The Committee considered the allegation sustained. The next petition considered was from the owners and lessees along the line, complaining of non-compliance with the standing orders. The petition contained several allegations analogous to those of the prec7(ling petition. The Committee had proceeded to some extent with these allegations when it was announced that the Spsaker was at prayers. Engineers, Sir John Rennie, Mr. Rastrick, aed Mr. G. Remington Parliamentary agents, Messrs. Dyson and Co. : solicitors, 9 , Messrs. Ashurst and Son, Ludlow and Sons, and J. Owens. The Committee adjourned shortly before four o'clock to Monday, at twelve o'clock. MOUSE OF LORDS RAILWAY COMMITTEES.—STANDING ORDERS. The following five Bills have been adjourned to a future day, in consequence of some slight inaccuracies. They may, however, be considered virtually to have passed,— I. Irish Great Western. 2. Belfast and County Down. 3. Newry, Warrenpoint, and Rostrevor. 4. Dublin and Enniskillen. 3. Londonderry and Enniskillen. SHROPSHIRE MINERAL COM- PANY 7 (THIS DAY). A general meeting of the shareholders of this Ccmpany was held to-dav, at one o'clock, at the George end V dture Tavern, Cornhill, Mr. Sergeant Adams in the chair. As some startling eiscoveries were expected to be made respeeting thh manage ment of the Company, there were a very full attendance. The Chairman, as there was no report submitted this the mee , iiig, made a long speech in reference to the history of the Company. In doing so, he said, he would have many painful matters to bring under their consideration, still, es in do' v bound, he would keep nothing back. When he joined tt 'Company lie did so under the impression that it was a bona fidc undertaking, and one that would be of service to all parties concerned. lie had held no shares in any previous railway company, and vas only induced to join this from its great respectability and the great respectability of the solicitor who had the conducting of its affairs. The first meeting of the Directors that he attended was in the middle of October last, when he was asked to take the chair, in the absence of Major Nowcomhe, and at a suc ceeding meeting, on the 17th of October, he was elected the ' chairman of the company. He again attended meetings on the 24th and 31st, in the capacity of chairman, and afterwards the managing committee changed its sittings into Shropshire, on the grounds that it would be necessary to attend to the getting torseard of the surveys, and to the preparation of the plaxs and sections against November 30. Sittings of the Board where there held day by day, but he was not able to be present at any of them. All the meetings that lie had attended were four, previous to the painful circumstance to which he would here after have to allude. He had told them of the vaule of the line. On that subject they had the evidence of the engineers, s a o t l t ic e tiors, and traffic-takers, to the effet that it would, if oon oted, yield from fifteen to twenty per cent. on the capital. He could not, therefore, advise them hastily to dissolve the C ee 3tn l' a e '7! nn!e to pass a censure on the Directors, but Los advise wa s examination iinitcothal , point a committee to make a full and fair its whole affairs from its first commencement until now. examine and sift into'ed th a committee of three or five persons to filling to submit his conductwhole matter, as he, for one, was to the closest scrutiny. He would now proceed to the tinanc affairs of the company, on which he was sorry he could not en a i H e would give the amouturt into detail so much as he desired. paid t at had been received and the itema that had been paid not havi but he could not admit their accuracy, on account o proportion to the disbursements. At the twen a party to a great in time that he joined the Company he found the accountssat very unsatisfactory of affairs till the state, qut ho was not awere of the actual attended the 12th of December. He had sta.' ed that hel a n e d Shropshire meeting!, end the 12th of Detiernt A : t ; t la s the first meeting after those that he was able to attend. lie asked to sea the tanker's books, from which he learnedat meeting there wis only 6,0 01. in hand. " Good God?" he exclaimed that ing what has come cf all the deposits? There should be at least It w as then stated that 21,321/. 15s. had 20,000/. in hand." been drawn out to purchase shares on the pirt rtf the finance co mmittee. An adjournment then toeok place for a fort night, in order t o make inquay into this. At thi s adjourned meeti n g lie wished to see the cheques, in or. dcr to have an explarrition of this proceeding to which he h i d not been a party. The cheques sere produced in the room, but being laid down for a short time. w e e n they were new again ask d for they had gone.— ( Shame, sham. ) He k the party who took the chequ es at the time, and whether he had destroyed them or not , he ( the Chairman) could rot say; but if that gentleman wou'd give up the cheques, then he (the Chair m in) would not mention his name. Mr. G IFFIVIS—I am the person , and I will explain after wai ds how it was. The CIIA IR3iA N said that relieved him of the difficulty. Mr. Griffiths was the !arty. LSorne uproar then took pace, and manifestations against Mr. Griffiths, at she close of which] The CHAIRMAN proceeded—The cheques to which lie re ferred were signed by three directors out of the f.air who were empowered to sign cheques. He for one had not signed any of these cheques. The only sum that he was a party to was 12,080/. These matters had been brought under the consi deration of the gentlemen who had signed the cheques and several of them, as well as others with whom they acted, ex pressed them se l ves sorry for what they had done, but intimated they had done so under the impression that by buy ing the shares a t the a great probability of time, t they did, as there was shares rising in price, be a the Company would lik e ly great gainer. They further expressed themselves willing, that it had turned out as they expected, to pay back th e sum effected after this there was expectation of an amalgaiion being with another Company in the Midland Counties, n which events there would have !wen, he believed, no diffieulty in getting the Fatties to pay up this money ; in tb,at case, there, .THE SUN LONDON, FRIDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 20 lB-16. fore, he thought it would be wise to allow the matter to stand over till the result was known. He might have erred in advising that, but he did it for the best. The amalgamation did not succeed, and to add to their embarrassment a bill in Chan cery had been filed against him and the other directors. Under these circumstances several of the gentlemen who had promised to pay back the money intimated that this altered the case, and did not feel justified in doing so with that hanging over them. The board of management never witnessed this trans action and considered the directors who had acted in this matter alone responsible. The statement of accounts was to the following effect. Received from shareholders as deposits, 37,7371. ; paid for expenses and sane timed by the Board of Management, 12,080/. ; drawn out by the parties to whom he had referred, to purchase shares at 2/. each premium in the market, 21,321/. ; balance at the banker's, 4,3811. ; deficiency remaining unpaid, 7,500'. ; leaving a de ficiency on the total deposits of 3,189'. ; deducting the 21,3211. illegally expended, there would then remain a balance in favour of the shareholders of 18,132/. The Hon. Gentleman then entered into some particulars about a dispute with their country solicitor, Mr. Gorbett, who was making a claim fora larger amount than he (the Chairman) considered right, and in consequence of which a sum of money in the hands of the Bilsten Banking Company, amounting to about 2,0001. belonging to the company, was attached in the name of that gentleman. The Chairman concluded his his address of which the above is but a sketch by sending certain correspondence which had passed bets( een himself and several of those who had been converned in using the Com pany's money to buy shares, expressing their regret for what tt ey had done, and their willingness to make amends. A w long and stormy discussion here ensued, in which personalities were freely banded about. The principal point elicited by it was from Mr. Garbett, that of the 21,3211., 18,0001. had been expended at three different times to buy shares at a premium in sums of -1,0001., 11,0001., and 3,000/. The expenditure was made under the impression that the market would improve, and that the money would be of advantage to the Company. In the course of the discussion great complaint was also made of the other items of the expenditure, and especially to the bill of Messrs. Yarborough and Adam, the solicitors to the Company; but to that Mr. Yarborough replied that he was Killing his bill should be taxed, or if a committee was appointed ' to submit all his charges to it, or to any respectable railway so licitor. Ultimately, after Mr. TYLER, the party who has filed the 13111 in Chancery, hail explained that he did so on his own responsibility to protect the shareholders, and that he was willing to act with any respectable committee to bring matters to a settlement, en the motion cf Mr. Alderman COPELAND, 111. P.—A resolution was agreed to that a committee of five be appointed to make a full investiga tion into all the affairs of the Company from the beginning, and report the result to a future meeting. This done, the names of the committee were agreed to, and the meeting, one of the stormiest of the kind we ever attended, broke up about half-past four o'clock. ENGLAND. ight's Gazette.) 7th and Sth of Victoria, gap.* for .c 14th day of February, 1846. 'ARVIEN T. Government debt • . 11,015,100 Other securities •• • • 2,984,900 Gold coin and bullion 11,177,282 Silver bullion ••• • .. 1,623,043 4 26,600,325 11. MARSHALL, Chief Cashier. 1846. ,EPAAT2IIE - NT , Government securi ties (including Dead Weight Annuity) • • 13,137, 0 47 Other securities •• . • 22,251,906 Notes ••••••• • • • • • • • 6,674,075 Gold and silver coin.. 667,277 X 42,730,205 if. MARSHALL, Chief Cashier. 1846. LNGE.--(TIIIS DAY.) Gibraltar.. • • .... ...... Leghorn •.• • • 30 75 Genoa .. • ....... .. •• .. 26 10 Venice. Naples Palermo, per 119 2 ,4 Lisbon.... • • .5234 Oporto •.. • • .... ••.. • • 524 ltio Janeiro • . . ltahia Buenos Ayres New York, 21 days' sight Philadelphia .. „ PRICES OF BULLION, PER OZ. Foreign Gold in bars.. £3 17 9 Portugal Gold Coin .. 3 17 5 New I>oubloons ...... 0 0 0 New Dollars ••..• • • • 0 4 iilver in bars .. Rowland Hill Blacker and Charles Earith, jun., ware housemen, Gresham -street, City. John Dalton, grocer, Wandsworth. James Knox, carpenter, Black Horse-yard, Bond-street. Robert Kimpton, jeweller, Crescent, Jewin-street, Cripple gate. Thomas Maginnis Taylor, merchant, Newcastle-upon- Tyne. James Birkett, tanner, Cockermouth, Cumberland. Joseph Phillips, William Hague, and Samuel Hague, cot ton spinners, Mal.cliester. ',Charles Collins, yarn dealer, Kidderminster. John Choyce Chambers, needle manufacturer, Ipsley, Warwickshire. James Milkier, innkeeper, Stourport, Worcestershire. • Edwin Hoare, clothier, Painswick, Gloucestershire. PRICE OF SCUAR. The average price of Brown or Muscovado Sugar, the produce of the British po: , Fessions in America, computed from the returns made in :he week ending Feb. 17, 1846, is 355. 1 d. per cwt. MARKET IN TELLIGEN CE (From the London New Price Current of Feb. 20.) St:clam—To-day the business transacted in West India Sugar was limited, althow4h there were sellers upon easier terms; the purchases amounted to only 236, and the decline in prices during the week Is per cwt. MAtAnTa - s.—This afternoon Mauritius Sugar met with little attention, and 772 Lags at public sa'.e were cnly ill part sold at barely former rates. EAST INDIA.—This afternoon there were six public sales of Bengal Sugar, comprising 6,098 bags of the white descrip , tions of wl the principal part consisisted, only in part sold, and the rates taken were in some c ises rather under those previously quoted, but the brown and ydlow all found at full prices. FOI:EIGN.—Since our last report none has bean submitted to public competition, although some parcels of Brazil and Havannah have arrived. Holders decidedly have more con - fidence and prices being moderate a material increase in the demand, it. is expected. will shortly take place. unF - FFE.--To- eay (here was little desire shown to operate in Mocha Coffee, and 530 biles at auction were only in part bd., at rather low, rates, COCOA —lltiti.h Plantar ion has been purchased with more freedom this week. but holders have been compelled to ac cept previous reduced rates. TEA.—Although the cotrumption continues satisfactory, still an improvement has taken place in the value of black or • green Tea; which is to be principally attributed to the large stock at this port. SPlOES.—This afternoon Black Pepper was more sought after, and 300 bags of Sumatra at auction were ::old at full rates. 36 bags of Nutmegs in the shell were taken in at Is 3d for bold. SPIRITS —To-day several purchases were made in Calcutta Bum and Is 9d to is 91d per gallon were the rates paid for proof of good clean quality, with certificate It is difficult to purchase proof Leewards under 2s per gallon. MOLASSES.—Prices are sustained for West India, but there are, at present, not many purchasers to be met with. RlCE.—Holders of Bengal have been unable to obtain better prices, although the supply at market is small ; there has, however, been a good business transacted privately. SALTPETRE.—Rough is still attiacting atten' ion, and by private treaty several parcels of Calcutta have been disposed of at stiffer rates. afternoon at public sale 660 casks of New South Wales Tallow were offered, and chiefly sold, but at rather lower rates. Ons.—This afternoon the market was abundantly supplied with Southern Oil, the quentity brought to public sale amounting to 230 tuns; the chief part sold, but at a decline on previous rates of 5s to lOs per tnn. IM PE RIA L PARLIAMENT (THIS EVENING.) HOUSE OF LORDS. The Earl of SHATTESBURT, in the absence of the Lord Chancellor, took his seat on the woolsack at Five o'clock. THE CORN-LAWS. Lord FEVERSHAlllpte;eniCdTtittY-I:fx petitions from the North Riding of Yorkshire, against the repeal of the corn-laws, and in favour of protection. The petitions were signed by landowners, tenant-farmers, merchants, millers, manufacturers, tradesmen and mechanics, and others in the townships of G Ribs borough, Pickering, Easingwo'd, and forty-two other town ships in the North Hiding. He (Lord Feversham) concurred in the views and sentiments of the petitioners, said he viewed with alarm the measure brought in in the Lower Honse of Par liament, and they prayed their Lordships when the Bill was sent up to that House that they would not assent to it. They alluded also to the practices of the unconstitutional body calling itself the Anti-Corn-luw League. He considered that if the sense of the country were taken, it would be found that the prevailing opinion was in favour of protection. VAN DIEMEN'S LAND. Lord LYTTLETON requested the Marquis of Lansdowne to pospone his motion on the subject of Van Diemen's Land, which stood for Thursday next, to a future day, as further papers relative to the matter were about to be presented. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE postponed the motion to Monday week. tice and not of principle. He could not ray at the rent moment.. Whether the Government intended to intro duce any measure on the subject. Lord STANLEY thought it would be impolitic to adopt the prayer of the petition. After sonic observations from Lord MONTEAGLE the peti- tiou was ordered to lie on the table. The Earl of KINNARD gave notice of his intention, on Monday next submit a question to the Government with respect to the proceedings of the Broad and Narrow Gauge Commissioners. Earl ST: GERMANS said he wished to introduce some verbal amendments into the Bill he had brought in the other night with respect to the pacification of Ireland. He tr2lieved that the proper course would be to move the reprinting of the Bill with the amendment. Lord C'AMrn►r.LL suzgested that the proper course would be :o withdraw the Bill and introduce a new one, containing he amendments. Earl ST. GEaMANS adopted this suggestion, and the Bill was read a first, and ordered .to be read a second time on ..hionday. Their Lordships then adjourned till Monday. printed form, befcre any proposition could be laid before the House. Mr. HUDSON said it appeared to him that the diffi culty complained of might be obviated by appointing two or three additional Committees to take these Bills into their immediate consideration, but he would throw it out for the consideration of the House whether time and expense could not be saved by assimilating the stand ing orders of the House of Commons and the House of Lords. After a Bill had gone through one ,Standing Orders' Committee, it was unnecessary to carry it through another. Under the present system great inconvenience was inflicted on the promoters of railways without answering any national purpose. Considering the great number of railway Bills before the House the assimilation of the Standing Orders Committee of both Howes would be of great advan.age, inas much as it would save a great deal of unnecessary expense. The motion was then withdrawn. BOROUGH OF WIGAN. The SPEAKER said he had to state to the House that he had received a communication from the Hon. George Lindsay, in which he declared that it was not his intention to prosecute the petition against the return of the Hon. Member for the borough of Wigan. IRISH GRIEVANCES. Lord CAMPBELL rose, pursuant to notice, to present a petition of very great importance. It came from the inha bitants of the City of Cork, and eminated from a public meet ing held in that city, and signed by the mayor and aldermen, and so many of the inhabitants that the petition had been charged to him Si. for postage, but which, by the courtesy of the Postmaster-General had been returned to him. The petitioners stated that they approached the Honourable House most respectfully, and that, ever loyal to the British Crown and the public institution, evid mindful of the pledge entered into by the Sovereign that the grievances of the people should be redressed, they laid before the House what they considered a very great evil —namely, the compulsory payment of a tax called " ministers' money." So little was known of the impost in ' England, that since he entered the House he had been asked by a Noble Peer of great standing and intelligence, if the im port of ministers money meant the grant of Reaium Donum, which was voted to the Dissenting clergy by the Parliament. Now, the petit loners did not mean to interfere with the county of the Crown, nor was it their wish that the grant should in any way be intercepted or limited ; all they did was to lay a state ment before the ,House of the weighty grievances that affected themselves personally. In the reign of Charles 11. an Act, hich he should pronounce a very arbitrary one, passed, by which the inhabitants of certain corpoi ate towns were subjected to individual taxation for the maintenance of the pastors of the Episcopal Protestant religion in Ireland. . . A NOBLE Loan—Yes, the tithe. Lord CAMPBELL should state that it was an impost quite different from tithes, and one paid to the clergy of the minority, by the Catholics and Dissenters. The late Secretary for Ireland, Sir Thomas Fremantle, had :ikewise admitted in his place in the House of Commons, that it was a very great grievance. Now, after so universal a condemnation of this tax, the only queseion for their Lordships to consider . would be, what means they should adopt to remove it. He was rather astonished that when the Noble Lord opposite introduced his Act respecting Church Temporalities, that his tax was not removed at that time, for though the pressure of it was lighter, that very circumstance made it a greater grievance. While the former amounted to about 60,0001. the latter did not come to more than 13,0001. or 14,0001. a year, and for that paltry sum it was too bad that all the religious sects in Ireland should consider themselves aggrieved. He did not wish to say anything invidious of the Church, but he earnestly implored their Lordships to take measures for its removal, that the odium of it might no longer attach to the Church. He did trust, therefore, that their Lorships woula look favourably on that petition. He did trust that along with the measures of concession which were contemplated. that the removal of this would also be included, for, under the circumstances of that country, it would have a most favourable tendency. He would conclude by moving that the petition do lie on the table. The Earl of ST. Ge:BMANS willingly admitted that he had stated in the other House of Parltament that this impost was a practical grievance, but he eid not admit that it was evil in principle. He looked upon it a , simply a grievance of practical nature, and not to be considered as an insult ing act towards her Majesty's Roman Catholic sub jects. The Noble Lord was correct in stating that the impost was originated for the maintenance of the Protestant clergy in certain towns of I eland, but the Noble I ord ought also to have recollected that at that time the Roman Catholics were by law incapable of holding any real property, and therefore the tax fell exclusively on the Protestants. It was only recently that Catholics were per mitted to hold property in towns, and they purchased those properties subject to the payment of this tax. It was a grievance of a much lighter character than the tithes, inasmuch as it was levied on the occupiers of those houses in those towns. The basis on which it was levied had remained unchanged since the time of Charles the Second. In Dublin it so happened, therefore, that houses which in the reign of that monarch had been occupied by opu lent families, were now tenanted by the humblest families; while the rates had remained, comparatively speaking, the same. The same held good in other large towns; in London, in Glasgow, and in Edinburgh, where an impost of a similar character existed for the maintenance of the Protestant clergy. He had more than once directed his attention to the subject ; and he had been in , hopes of being enabled to submit some other provision in lieu of it. Difficulties had, however, supervened, and he was not at that moment in a condition to say whether her Majesty's Government were engaged in the considerations of introducing any alteration with respect to it. He was not rvt are that he had anything further to say ; he admitted that it was a , grievance, but as he had before stoted it is as not a grievance of a practical nature and not one founded on principle or in tended to insult the Roman Catholic subjects. Lord CAMPBELL had heard with great satisfaction the explanation given by the Noble Lord. Lord STANLEY could answer the question why minister's money had not been dealt with in the same mannes as the vestry cess. The minister's money did not ap pear to him to partake in the slightest degree of the nature of a persosal tax. It had been a tax existing since the time of Charles 11., and was levied, not on indiviouals, but upon houses, and was as much a tax on house property as tythe was a tax on landed property in the country. It stood precisely on the same footing. It was in no way a capitation tax, but was an ad valorem tax. All house property was purchased subject to this tax, and to abolish it would only be to put so much into the pockets of the house proprietors. The difference between the vestry cess and the minister's money was this, that the latter was a certain tax, and the former an uncertain one. He ad mitted that the prsent mode of levying the tax was a defective one, but he did not see how it could be remedied. Lord MONTEAGLE fully agreed with the Noble Lord that minister money stood on the same footing as tithe. He would venture to say, that of all classes of the Irish clergy, those who bad the most onerons duties to discharge were time least remunerated. He (the Noble Lord) was not then going to deal with the question of the principle of the law of tithes. All he should say was, that it gave rise to a most unhappy struggle between the pastor and the farmer, as regarded agri cultural produce ; for certainly distraining the furniture an: stock of the poor farmer, and seliing them off, by public auction, was a most grievous proceeding, LORDS' SUMNI AltY. Their T.ordships met at Five o'clock. Lord FEVRE:SHAM presented forty-six petitions from differ ent parts of Yorkihire agairst any repeal of the corn-laws, and -complaining .of the unconstitutional proceedings of the Anti-Corn-law Leagite. Lord Li-TTELTON moved an address to the Crown for cer tain Lord CAmPuEnt presented a petitio T n h f e ro p m eti C ti o o r n k w p a ra s paperi3tonnect e d w i th the colonies.—Agreed to. y o n g g r e f t r the abolition of the;miniater s ' money. extent, he had been charged 81. by the Post -office for the p' stage of it; but which had bee n rem i tted by the kind ness of the Noble Lord at the head of the Post-offh,e De. partment. lie trusted the objcet the petition had in *view would be maturely considered by their Lordships. Earl Si. GEMIANS admitted that the impost complained of by the petitioners was a grievance, but only one of prac- ARMY RECRUITS. Captain L AYARD gave notice that be would, on an early day, bring on a motion for the better regulation of the recruit ing service, with 'a view to inducing young men of a respect able class in society to enlist in her Majesty's service. CROWN SOLICITORS IN IRELAND. Mr. PIGOTT, in pursuance of the notice he had given to that effect, to ask the Right Hon. Baronet, the Secretary of Sta'e for the Home Department, the following question : Whether appointments hare been made of three persons as Crown solicitors for the Home Circuit in Ireland, or for cer tain counties belonging to it, in the room of the Crown soli citor for that circuit, who has died ? If that question be an swered in the affirmative, then to ask—Whether the salaries or emoluments of those cfficers hare been fixed, and if so, at what amount. When were the appoiatments made; when was it determined to divide the circuit into distracts, with separate solicitors at distinct salaries. And whether there be any objection, on the part of the Government, to laying before this House copies of all documents relating to and alterations which have been made in the office of Crown Solicitor, or in the arrangements for the conduct of Crown prosecutions in Ireland. Sir JAMES GRAHAM said he had to state, in anwer 1 to the questieo of the Right Hon. Gentleman, that there could he no objection to lay upon the table of the House the papers he had asked for. He respect to the other part of the Right Hon. Gentleman's question, he begged oo say that certain appointments had already been made of some Crown Solicitors, about three weeks since, which would come into operat ion on the 31st March The Home Circuit in Ireland consisted of six counties, and it was proposed to adi two other counties to that circuit, and that a Crown Solicitor should be resident in one of tiro e counties. The s lary should be 5001. a year, twos hundred a year to toyer all expenses, m7king 7001. for each, and an aggregate sum of 2,100/. for all, being 100/. per annum less than the emolu ments of he Cate sol:eitor.—( Hear, hear.) ' On the motion that the House should, at its rising, adjourn un'il Monday next, Mr. BROTHERTON suggested thot the Honse should sit to-morrow (Saturday) at twelve o'clock, in order that they mig4t be enabled to go at once into Committee on the impor tant measure before them.—( Cries of " Move, move.") Mr. BROTHERTON declined to move, he only wished to throw out the suggestion. Sir ROBERT PEEL said that it would be extremely advantageous ' both to the agricultural and commercial interests of the country, that the sense •f the House should be taken on the preliminary step. but he did not see how the suggestion of the Hon. Member would accomplish his desires, or what advantage could be de rived from the House departing from its usual rules.—(Hear.) Mr. S's'AFFORD O'BRIEN suggested that as there was a long list of gentlemen on his own side of the House who were anxious ro speak upon this subject of the Government measure, the debate ought to be kept open until those gentle men had an opportunity of addressing the House. The motion was then agreed to. FOREIGN POSTAGES. Mr. ROEBUCK was understood to ask the Right Hon. Baronet, the First Clerk of the Treasury, if there were any hopes of the penny postage system being extended to the colonies. Sir H. PEEL replied in so low a tone as to be inaudible in the gallery. He was, however, understood to say that it was not in his power to give a positive answer to the question of the lion. Ales Thor. COMMONS SUMMARY. The SPEAKER took the Chair at, Four o'clock. General EVANS took the oaths and his seat for Wes minlter. Mr. Gooch took the oaths and his scat for East Suffolk, and Mr. SEYMER and Mr. FLOYER took the oaths and their seats for Dorsetshire. Several Rail way Bills were read a second time, and ordered to be committed. Petitions were presented for and against the Customs and Corn Importation measure. On the motion of The O'Conteon Dos, it was agreed, that it should be an instruction to the Select Committee on Petitions on Railway Bills, where parties bad proved com pliance with the standing orders, that they should have precedence. During the course of a somewhat desultory conversation on the subject of railway Bills, it was stated that on Monday the Committee would report on a large number of railway Bills, which had by them been arranged in groups, and it was suggested that Irish railway Bills and Scotch Bills should have precedence. Mr. P. ScnorE suggested the appointment of a Commis sion to arrange preliminaries, and to sort radway Bills in groups before the meeting of the House. In answer to Mr. GisnonNE, Sir G. CLERK said that he was not prepared to state at present whether the Government would introduce any pro position founded on the report of the Gauge Commissioners, There was an immense quantity of evidence not yet printed, which the Government must consider before they determined. Mr, IlunsoN proposed that the standing orders of the two Houses with regard to railway Bills should be assimilated and that railway Bills generally should be permitted to ori ginate in the Lords as well as in the Commons, would be a great saving of time and expense. The SPEAKER stated that he had received a letter from the Hon. JAMES LINDESAT, stating that it was not his in tention defend the return of the borough of Wigan. In answer to a question, Sir J. GrunAm said it was intended to to divide the duties of the office of Crown Solicitor in Ireland, vaca:l by the re cent appointment of the late Crown Solicitor to another office, and that by the new arrangement, which was merely an experiment, a saving would be effected of NU a year. On the motion that the House, at its rising no adjourn till Monday, Mr. BROTIIERTON moved that thh House do sit to-morrow at 12, as it was not likely the House wculd divide to-night. Sir R. PEEL thought it would be extremely advantageous that an early decision should be come to on the question, yet he saw no advantage in acceding to the proposition of the Hon. Gentleman. He knew how impossible it was to limit discussion, but still he thought no advantage could be gained by acceding to the proposition of the Hon. Gentleman. Mr. STAFFORD O'BRIEN ;aid that several Hon. Gentlemen on that side of the House were desirous of addressing the House. No time would be lost in permitting them to ad dress the House on this question, as tio.ey would not have to address that House again in the future stages of the Bill. Ile hoped, therefore, the division would not be unnecessarily pressed for this evening. Mr. ROEBUCK, who spoi:e in a very indistinct tone, put a question as to the post-dice arrangements with Canada, in answer to which Sir R. PEEL stated that the matter was a very complicated one, and would'better form the subject of official commuuica thn than of a question in the House. In answer to a question from Capt. OSBORNE relating to the potato disease, Sir R. PEEL said that he had since received a communica tion from Dr. LINLEY stating that from experiments which he had tried, he was of opinion that potatoes propagated from diseased seed were themselves diseased, and that there fore the greatest care was necessary in the selection of pota toes from seed in order to guard against the propagation of the disease. Various petitions on the subject of the corn-laws having been presented. The adjourned debate was resumed by Major CUMMING BRUCE, who denied that the Government measure would be considered a settlement of the corn-law question. It was a total sacrifice of the interests of an important class of the community, and if this sacrifice were to be made to agitation, it would only give rise to a new agitation for more . dangerous objects. If the Government had been firm, the agitation would have been put down, but experience proved that con ceding to agitation only gave rise to fresh demands. (LEFT SPEAKING.) THE LINENDRAPERS AND SILK MERCERS' INSTITUTION. The fourteenth annual Court of the Institution was held last evening at Exeter-hall._ Mr. PICA ncx, the President, took the chair at half-past seven o'clock, and called upon the secretary to read the adver tisement calling the meeting. The SEcnEranY afterwards read the report of the directors for the past year, stating that the capital stock of the institution amounted to 16,8471. Three per Cent. Consols, and 10,0001. Three-and-a- Qu4rter per Cent. Consols,besides a sum of 2441. in the hands of the treasurer, showing a slight increase over last year. The report further stated that seventeen applications for relief had been received and met, and that a total of 4591. I 2s. had been expended in annuities and temporary relief, most of the sums being upwards of 301. Mr. FAIRBANKS then came forward, and moved, according to notice, Ist. 'That the secretary shculd be requested to put tip in the ballot-room a list of the names of the directors, and the times they have attended the Board; and, 2tily, that the class and name of the medical attendants, a list of the cases, and their nature, attended on by them, should be printed and circulated among the members of the Institution. The first of these motions was before the Court for some time, but was ultimately lost. Mr. Fairbanks withdrew his other motion, as he had heard it was impracticable. Mr. SiLwALL moved the following resolution :—" That this Court, agreeing that an asylum, as projected in a circular from the Secretary some time since will be for the interest of the institution, recommend it to the reconsideration of the Board." The gentleman supported his proposition on the general grounds of benevolence, and on the necessities and grounds peculiar to the class of trades connected with the Institution. Several gentlemen, directors, and members of the Institution, expressed their opinion of the proposition, and The SECRETARY, as the originator of the scheme, was called for by the meeting to set the reasats before them which had indu , sed him at first to commend it to their attention. He said, the conclw ion to which he had come, and which they might be astonished at, was derived from experience of other trades as well as their own ; and he had to say that he did n t think there was any class of trades more asleep to their own interest than theirs. He believed that the class of trade to which he belonged had the means and the power, but neither had been as yet called into action. Others far inferior in these had accumu lated great advantages for themselves, and conferred immense benefit on the public—he begged to refer to the licensed victuallers. Under that conviction he was earnestly desirous that their energies should be called out. Since publishing his scheme he had heard arguments which had led him to re consider it, but he still clung to what he had proposed. He would specifically ob3crve, however, that it would be the ob ject of those who adopted his proposal not to impair or to clash with the object of those who were the originators of the Institution—(Hear, hear,)—but he felt it was perfectly practicable to get a large fund without infringing at all on the Institution. The asylum, he said, which he pro posed, would not be confined to the members of the Institution. He wished that it should be open to the trade, and that every person in the trade who gave one gu i nea s h o uld have a vote in filling a va:ancy. Ile hoped in this way to make the scheme more popular, and he believed the effect would be to excite more favourable attention to the Institution itself.—( Hear, hear.) The discussion having been continued some time longer, the motion was put, and carried by a large majority. It was moved and seconded that the thanks of the Court were due to the medical staff of the Institution, which was carried unanimously. . A vote of thanks to the directors and to the president were severally moved and carried unanimously. MIDDLESEX SESSIONS. (Before Mr. Sergeant ADAMS, the Assistant Judge, and the usual Bench of Magistrates.) • FIRST PROSECUTION UNDER TILE NEW DOG STEALING ACC.— Tay?nr was yesterday irdicted for having corruptly received the sum of 1/. 12s. from Mr. Woolley, under the pretence of recovering for him a favourite poodle dog which he had lost. The prosecutor resides at Stockbridge-terrace, Pimlico, and holds some office in the Admiralty. The defendant is one of that clever and lucky class of persons whoa find" dogs that more unlucky persons have had the misfortune to lose. The present prosecution against him was instituted under the Act Bth and 9th Victoria, cap. 47, recently passed for the prevention of dog stealing, and which - declares, "That any person who shall corruptly take any money or reward, directly or indirectly, under pretence Cr upon account of aiding any person to recover any dog which shall have been stolen, or which shall be in the possession of any person not being the owner thereof; shall be guilty of a misdemeanour and punishable accordingly." It appeared from the evidence adduced on the part of the prosecution, that on the 4th instant the pro secutor lost a favourite poodle dog, and had a similar mis forth!, eon several previous occasions. That he made every endeavour to recover possession of the animal, and in the course of the inquiries which he made respecting it, he had an interview with the prisoner on the subject, who in answer to his questions said he knew where the dog was and who mid got it, but that that party wouht not restore it for less than 2/. Finding that the prisoner knew so much about the matter, he requested his assistance to enable him to recover possession of the dog, and which he agreed to do for a " con sideration ;" and the suns of 1 l: 12s. was ultimately paid over to hint for his promised services. On the day following the prosecutor, in consequence of some other information he had received, went to the defendant's house, and finding his dog there, gave the defendant into the custody of a policeman, on a charge of having corruptly receired money conzrary to the Act of Parliament above quoted. The Act gave the Court the power of punishing the prisoner either with fine or imprisonment. The prisoner haring been convicted, Mr. WILDE, who appeared on his behalf, aWied to the Court to punish his offence by fine instead of imprison ment, but The AesisTater-Junaz said, the offence of which Or: pri soner had been convicted was one that the Act in question had been passed expressly to put a stop to. It was one of such frequent occurrence that the Court was determined to carry out the Act of Parliament to the fullest poi:tittle extent ; the sentence, therefore, of the Court was, that the prisoner be confined three months in the Iloase of Correction, and there kept to hard labour. [This is the first conviction under the Dog-Stealing Act (in planning which Mr. Bishop, of Bond-street, took an active part) for demanding money as a reward for restoring the stolen deg.] POLICE IN TELLIGEN CE. MANSION-HOUSE. Michael Iliygins, Mary iliggins, Elizabeth Capper, and William Copper, were brought before the Lord Mayor, charged with felony. William Palmer, clerk to Mr. Barber, wharfinger, at Galley Quay, stated that a truss of linen-drapery was de posited in the warehouse on Wednesday week, to be shipped for Margate. On Saturday last it was lost, but on Wednes day night two pieces of calico were found hidden. The truss was gone altogether. A porter, in the employment of Mr. Barber, stated that he. knew the two male prisoners, as working in the quay, and they 'ere employed in that pint of the warehouse in which the truss had been deposited. lie found a blue package and a brown paper parcel underneath a box. Charles Fowler, warehouseman to Mr. Stanley, 67, Cheap side, stated that the trues of linen-drapery was sent from the warehouse, directed to J. Gosling, Margate, to be forwarded by hay, from Galley Quay. lie believed the pieces of calico produced were part of the goods which were contained in the truss. Each of the prisoners was identified as a person who pawned some portion of the stolen goods. They were all remanded. GUILDHALL. Mr. amjamin Parytr, type-founder, cf Bartholomew -close, was yesterday again brought up for final examination before Aldermen Hughes Hughes and Lucas, charged with having in his possussion several moulds which had been stolen from Messrs. Figgins, of West-street, Smithfield. Mr. Humphreys appeared on behalf of the prosecutors, and Mr. Child for the defendant. At the request of Alderman HuGHEs the evidence taken on Friday last was read over, the purport of which has already appeared. Mr. Henry Caslon, of Chiswell-street, type• founder, stated that the value of the mould was about V., and if new they would be worth 31. ea• Th. it was, however, difficult for him to give the value of second-hand moulds, not being a broker. There was something peculiar in the make of one of ti mouldi, but the rest were ordinary ones. If a man offered bins some moulds at the price of 10s., he would buy them it he knew the party came by them honestly ; but if a stranger came and offered them, he certainly would not purchase until he had made some inquiry. A purchaser of moulds must at all times expect he would have to make some outlay before they would become useful. One of the moulds had no nick on it for the type when cast. Two or three witnesses were recalled and questioned, but their answers aid not differ from the evidence already given. Mr. Child then addressed the Magistrate on behalf of the prisoner, and called several witnesses to prove the value of second-hand moulds, and the price they usually fetched. Alderman HuGnEs committed the prisoner, and admitted bum out on his former bail. On Saturday lest Mr. Daniel O'Connell, with Mr John O'Connell, his lady, and two of their sons, visited Chelmsford. by railway, and the presence of the great agitator, who was looking hearty and wed, and as ore the well-known green repeal cap, ex cited considerable curiosity amongst the inhabitants. The party took up their temporary quarters at the Black Boy Inn, and, having en. gaged Mr. Amery's commodious omnibus, as most convenient for them, they proceeded with four horses to the :Nunnery, at Ness Hall, where they remained about three hours. On their return they partook of an excellent dinner, of Mr. Amery's providing, which was calculated to give the Liberator a high opinion of Essex cookery; and the party returned to London by the seven o'clock train in the lirr en ing.—Easex firrald, IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, Thursday, Feb. 19. MO DE LA PLATA. Lot d BEA UM ON T (in continuation humour Third Edition) if they would allow him he would look into a document, the only one that bad been sent by the Governor, in explanation of such extraordinary conduct. In the first instance, he stated the determination of the Government to accomplish its object by a coalition with France, with which country they would, if necessary, unite their interests for the acomplishment of their object. That was to say, in other words, that he had resolved to enforce this decimation, which would in fact he a declaration directly contrary to the laws of nations. The Noble Lord has said that Buenos Ayres had a right to wage war if it thought proper. No doubt it 'Lid ; but this was not a declaration of war by one nation against another—it was more like an individual quarrel against their Argentine allies. It was not a war against the Argentine State, but an effort of that State against a faction of foreigners. General Orlhe and General Riviera had been elected by the unani mous voice of the people, and gave every satisfaction, and when both Governments had been established and settled, the recommendation of the Noble Lord was, that both should be upset, which would of course involve the removal of those two generals, and the result would he, not to establish a better system of government, but to re-establish in fact this faction of foreigners, for he knew of no others that could be sub stituted. Then he said that he would be prepared to enforce the free navigation of the River Plate. However, the Noble Earl seemed to have seen the errors into which he had fallen when writing this dispatch, and in a further dispatch he abandoned the idea of expelling both Governments. lie had now stated, and stated very briefly, all the circumstances which had led to the intervention of the two countries. He had done so without reflecting on the conduct of the officers and those who were engaged in those matters. He had no doubt that they had acted according to the in structions received from the Noble Earl, and his remarks, therefore, only referred to the Government at home. Ile re peated that he did not wish to infer anything against the infe rior diplomatic corps or the officers of the fleet. Before he concluded, their Lordships would allow him to state that he was not a mere apologist fur General Rosas. His sanguinary disposition he (Lord Beaumont) believed had been enormously exaggerated, and if the judgment of Rosas were measured ac cording to the scale of morals and opinions in that country, he would stand forward far superior to the mass of those who had risen to power. If the Noble Earl would call to recollection what had taken place in Mexico and other republics, he would see that General Rosas did not alone revel in those sanguinary habits which were attributed to him by a publication printed in Monte Video, and purporting to be the life of General Rosas. The Noble Lord concluded by moving for the papers for which he had given notice. The Earl of ABERDEEN said that the attention of his Noble Friend opposite had been so often directed to the affairs of the Turkish empire, that he trusted this diversion to the western world signified that he had left things there in a satisfactory condition. The Noble Lord had described the in terference of England and France in the affairs of La Plata as unnecessary and unjust. He ventured to say, that if there ever was a case in which proceedings of this kind were justifiable, it was that which had taken plaee with regard to La Plata.—( Hear, hear.) The war had been carried on in a manner revolting to hu manity—a war which, in truth, had no national object what ever, was carried on on no intelligible or public grounds, but was founded entirely on personal hatred and party rancour. It was rare, indeed, that any war in his mind was just or wise ; but this war in the river Plate was not only wicked, but was the most senseless that had ever occurred. It had been during the whole course of this war an object of Great Britain to arrest, if possible, its I regress. In 1841 the Noble Lord who preceeded him (the Earl of Aberdeen), in the office which he had the honour to hold, directed her Majesty's Minister at Buenos Ayres to press the mediation of Great Britain on that Government, with a view of putting an end to the hostilities which existed. That offer was refused. In the following year an opportunity had arisen in which the united proposal of England and France to mediate between the parties would be attended with some success. That joint mediation was strongly represented to the contending parties. It was accepted readily by Monte Video, but was rejected by Buenos Ayres. That was in the autumn of 184, and the efforts of this country were unsuccessful. For two years nothing wasdone. Petitions had been presented to both the Governments of France and England to interfere in order to effect a settlement of the dispute between the two countries. The Noble Lord thought they had gone out of their way to interfere in this natter, but when it was considered how the state of things in terfered with the neighbouring States and settlements and af fected the commerce of that part of the world, he thought it was right that some endeavour should be made to effect a set tlement. In 1844 the Governments of France and England were sgain implored to mediate, and the two Governm en t s agreed to offer their mediatiation a third time, and arranged that if the parties would not agree to a peaceable settlement, and if such was refused, then to coerce them into that step. The attempt was in vain, and accordingly instructions on the part of the two Governments were tent out, but those inatrue, tens cvincel no hostile views towards General Roses or tee wards Buenos Ayres. The instructions were to act in a fair and impartial spirit towards both countries, and to use every means to induce the Government of Buenos Ayres to li,ten to their mediation. The offer was refused and the ulterior steps complained of were then taken. The people of that country thought that the interference et England and France was not sincere in the matter. They had since found that this union was established for no other object than the bringing about of a lasting peace. He was happy to be able to state, that whatever were the opinions of certain parties in the United States, the Government of that country had disavowed the acts of their agents in South America. Although the Noble Lord had said that this country was not a party to the construction of that state, still it was carried by the friendly interference of this country. It would be a most • unfortunate thing if General Rosas were allowed to take pot" session of both sides of the River Plate. The Government had eo objection to General Riviera or General Rosas, provided • they had the support of the peop'e, b ut t hi s they had not. General Riviera was the Lieutenant of General Rosas, and the troops were entirely under their control. He wished to say a word as regarded the opening of the tri butary rivers= that would be accomplished lawfully and peace' ably ; and he agreed with the Ncble Lord, and had only to re; peat the sentiments which he had often before uttered la t he House, namely, that to the navigation of the river referred to by the Noble Lord, they cannot pretend to exercise any claim.. Such could not be established as long as they were negotiatil with Buenos Ayres, with which state he hoped they te ne long maintain friendly relations. Very recently General R° l- had made a proposal for a settlement, on grounds which wer e then not admissible, bet which, he hoped, would soon be se' cept able. He hoped the Noble Lord would not think it fl ees' nary to press his motion for the papers referred to ; end i r hoped also that the House would understand his (the N ob ! Lord's) discretion in not entering into a defence of the cond,,e` of the Government, or of the character of the individual at e '," head. Again, under the circumstances, he hoped the N obl e Lord would not press his motion. Lord COLCHESTER would wish to say a few words°, this discussion He cordially concurred in the intentiens • the Government of the country to close the warfare that ha d been going on in the River Plate. The Noble Lord had stated that he had two reasons for recommending this course, the o). • was, the restoration of peace, and the other war, to provide le: the independence of that stale. But he ( Lord Colchester) w 5., of opinion that the means which the Noble Lord propoiied. /Q , accomplishing those objects was not such as, in his 00° 1 2', weuld be likely to succeed. The Noble Lord had stated tee d this was a war without an object, but he (Lord Colchester) at',e not think that that was quite a correct description of it. Pr would not trouble the House by going over again the detailt; the Noble Lord ; but it was quite apparent front who( be had heard the Noble Lord state that the object General tiosas was to restore a friendly understandil The Noble Lord then referred to a pamphlet he held in hand, from which he qu o ted th e amoun t o f th e p o pulation e lf Monte Video, and the other s tates, a n d th en c ontinue , Vd the war had been brouelit to an end by the interferenc e Great Britain, it would, no doubt, have been a desirable ebj7ea but the result had only been, that a great falling off had t ! t ee place in their trade weh that country. The speech 01 Noble Earl that night might do much good ; for, of cour re, p i t would be known over the world. The Noble Lord then °c m , into au exposition of General Roses' character, stating illa t „a belonged to a highly respectable family, and that he be lie ' the character of that General was as good and respectable -4. many in thie country emloyed in the most iortant offic_eso When they considered what barbarities characterised civil r in all countries, and especially in Spain. they would view ' n different light the proceedings of General Rosas. so els Lord BEAUNIONT said, after the explanation of the s Lord (the Earl of Aberdeen) he would withdraw his nn't to lie hoped that the explanation he had given would go °u ' t of South America, as it was calculated to do a great emot e good. teoble The Duke of WELLINGTON wished to ask the Lord a question. The Noble Lord had said that Orib e cts e the first president. If he (the Duke of Wellington) rcco lle aright, General Riviera was the first president. Lord BEAUMONT replied that General Riviera g er` te e4l' his regular term of office, and then a new president was Cie' in a similar maneer to the President of the United St r i, eo General Oribe was elected, but before he had fulfillieldell period, through the intervention of a French party, ee'L et e c ts olt others, who were opposed to him, he was expelled. ri- be ivg shelter in Buenos Ayres, where he was persued, the war sis ta carried even to the walls of that city. An independent tbo was thus invaded, and it was in the retreat from this pl ace Lavelle lost his life. The motion was en withdrawn. , :11essengers from th tile Commons brought up the Gran ill. Presentment (Ireland) Bill and the Drainage (Irelana lll SELECT COMMITTEES. - Earl GREY gave notice that he would next week resolution respecting Select Committees, in conformiti os iti the suggestion made to him by the Noble Duk? (Wellington). STATE OF IRELAND. Earl GREY would take that opportunity of tok i t n e g Noble Frie n d o pp os it e w h a t course h e i n t en d e d to 01 '10' Monday, in moving the second reacting of the Bill he b a troduced for the bette r p ro t ec ti on o f lif e an d p ro perty's land? He had understood that some intimation had beet?bicli that a general statement would be mad e as t o the pc:die) c i. , the Government intended to pursue with regard to Ireland bad The Earl of ST. GERMANS said his Noble Fr ien eve ° given him notice of his question, End he had in 011011 communicated with his Right Hon. Friend at the head. °f Government, and he had stated that he had given no 1 1 1 0 0 non such as that to which his Noble Friend had referrea.) id ,r Monday next, however, he (the Esrl of St. Gerall° l ' ; ',;(lok moving the second reading of the Bill which had been a )IP to, would endeavour to state the grounds on which tie ,esty's Government were prepared to found the prop oo.l° t that measure. It would be inconvenient for him at th a we ver l t.t ment to make a statement. It would be compe - tents for the Noble Lord, when that statement was made, " be t,rl'r mot meet his approbation, to take other steps.—( llear „ th The NOBLE Lorca then 12ronght up the report ° ',oll l Public Works (Ireland) Bill, which was ordered to lie table. The LORD CHANCELLOR moved the first reading Bill for the revision of Charitable Trusts. The Bill sAas read a first time. The House then adjourned. .cas. HOUSE OF COMIIIOIVS, Thursday, Feb. 19. INTERFERENCE AT ELECTIONS. 0 sta te Mr. COLLETT (in continuation) said—He had ~,west in his place in Parliament that the privileges of the Ct w en cer of the United Kingdom had been infringed by Georg e *e l !! Churchill, Lord-Lieutenant of the county of Oxford , &a go tbs of Marlborough, in the election of a representativ e ,' borough, in 1644, when his son, the Marquis of Biandlor sod d; returned ; in 1845 when Viscount Loftus was r eturv e le% at the election of its present representative, Lord e t t° Churchill; which, as he said, he should be able to e t to t' he:ore a Committee of the House. Then, with resPr e av i it e borough of Buckingham— but he (Mr. Collett) hid so ° beet , ie r ; stances in which the privileges of that House had ta tioal, fringed by Peers of the realm that he had some he' l , ip g calling attention to the whole of them for fear of etetal ee mat i : l House.—( Cries of "Go on.") Well, then, the sam e Tbera b applied with equal truth to the election of Si r t ul oa t t : Fremantle and the Marquis of Chandos in the presealsnita, without opposition, to represent that borough in With respect to that borough, he had to state in Yarlt ndb ier4 (Signs of impatience on the part of the House, and I! 70 0 ' 4 Gentlemen might think it. a laughing matter, but a t e aric ei think it was. The subject was of the highest imPar_, beft' r e f affected their privileges, which they ought to protect;.,ailesseo he had to state in his place in Parliament that the pi t 0 ,0 4 , that House had been infringed by the Duke of Ba c ot! f' oo and Chandos with respect to the elect ons of Sir Th, p c h - s eei . _, ; mantle and its present representative, the Marquis 0 1 vir eo; Having made these charges, which he had reduced ta iu de4 .4 he begged to tender them to Alr. Speaker, and Oa' in to '' ,f moving tot a Committee of Privileges, to i n quire f , o - e fe causes that led to the vacation of their seats in this ° o f Ce,,, the Members lately representing in Parliament the ci t y i joe' cheater and the boroughs of Newark, Woodstock, s o t s )1 , 1 ngham ; also to make inquiries as to the elections °Toe 0 ; 0 hers now representing in Parliament the said city an an d if pi three boroughs, and to repot t whether or not in anYrututiefi in what cases, either as to vacation or election, the I . " 0; this Hou-e had been infringed. The charges and motions of the Hun. M e mber ha liP° e s read, et to bye Mr. WILLIAMS rose and said he did not eal ) ! eu d. „its been called upon to second the motion of his Hon. 1 " ', 4 jor expected that the Noble Lord the Member for oer (the Marquis of Chandos) or the Noble Lord the .3."' Chichester (Lord H. Lennox) would have bean V e sir) 4 o have come forward to second this motion —( Hear' hoi e g' c le order that an inquiry might be instituted into t ie V ert . charges which had been made against those two obo e fstb an t and the still more serious charges against their Nf, e „. e rru: o B He expected that some Member of her Majesty' s `l o porl e would have made some answer to a motion of so of thi s involving so deep a stain upon the character ed , by the chages contained in that motion could be pros' ijece,tio a similar motion was brought forward, some Ye a gher oc t et' an Hon. Member (Mr. Manners) charging a in e % ren t t bst then Noble House of Holland, who had to a great e vpea d b) elected by the corrupt influence of certain Peerst ri , t iere a ree occasion the Prime Minister of the country (Lord .` - ttee ri d stood up in his place, and said that such a Cona n ' fera b ' eg b' tally unnecessary, from the notoriety of the fact, Oahe boreriotte that House were elected by such influences under p olo mongering system of that day. The fact s'al a e : r , bett y re as the sun shining at noon day. (Balm r r tt e o aret Was the House to understand that peers of th e 1 t hat ' eitig trample on the most important sessional order 0' ,5 by 5 0 00 0 and also to stain the character of their proceedio he exp i be parties to represent and maintain their position a t I 0W . .0 of the country at large. Those were c harf . e o s at je . 4 s ; be House of Commons ought not permit to rest Fite fed tbre Two or three years ago an Hon. Member had !,. e Ou . ! iao s) believed certain members were returned to ii t ir. P . Wil l 00 0 the grossest bribery and corruption. acedtha tla g , t et' believed that a committee then appointed suht ea ge e. were fully proved, but that no imputation c° • Th e bt 1 0 the parties charged with using improper influe_inecetbea e tie barg e Member for Bath stopped very short of what have done. The charge against these Noble t'" . . se d Of; that brought by Mr. Bathurst—war, that they . had _"_,hers obeli fluence and power, and demanded certain In' e . "" r , f e lt , _t etio se House to resign their seats, because those rnef erow ento o u te ot!. duty to support measures introduced by G o " o and I ,,iga those measures wt re opposed to the i nflue m ae._ . . e , to r_s oase of of those Noble Dukes, and ordered those A.l! c the f! ticoi ,e4 o consequence. These were charges which an d Commons in the deepest state of degrada"_`_'_; se el ora p r , e cet° such serious charges as should not be slighttYoprototeoufoee (Mr. Williams) asserted that the 11011. , a; d e ` i i , y int ! o ut! bound to inquire, not because those Peers . tt_ 0).....-bot, te d their personal character—(Cries of " w qr'sl . eres eeer ° ' , but,' a their property gave them an influence n!Ct! en3 es rrle.! eu ce $ l , fairly by those Noble Lords. He ,peke ot , 'us vast in_ntt.:oo was well known their great property had T h e goel k ojettY r , procuring Members seats in that House . . c _ se her iropeti, one of great importance to the country, he s. _ r a es " o f g re ., t teeli t : ( Government had brought forward 11 1 e ' that sbosel uer ese_ e tance to the nation, and the country felt for th e Pdes ° lv o , House e hare s pit persons to represent places in that ara ve ved th le r thwarting those measures. When i t beho brought against the character of the 11 0 :o',:d i slier k Y riot i, h o r . , inquire whether such influence was ex:, heo • did °°`enderi_,,: cases were brought under their notic without sortnoest they could refute to grant such inqui.)i. had b r e ko. ribs their characters. The greatest indte:ntY very Du st ao or ot her Majesty's Government by th" ,y e i .,_ sli t e baßut l lie , or g o e a s iat. . °l tieo ll , charged the Right Hon. Baronet _ .e t t a n id . , conduct.—(Cries of'' No. no.") It ade. 5 m uc' fier grois and calumnious had been ro .t vas qu ite a, the clt them, that the Right Hon. Barondheers.) A"I lv th iab lit • terested in land as any of them.—( him ica' to the P u bhg ince that exists between them aneive sy ot f or the p tber (Sir R. Peel) made his private interests g A n c are. , roan'ainc good, while they exclaimed that TheYr e ir P' e lin theinterestpublic f interferedi g t ood w a., to b w e i with t r h i n e c i r e t s. (l 7 l2 Y selfish and tuerthese 0.11 -- e ch interests were attended to. Tbheisenter entertained tyn•. land ekes ought not, in his opinion , rovided th censor sect s ,, 0 , emen °f ~iobl e this the a manifestation of feeling on tbe endured the part bY the p eo p e o sumed to themselves a title of and their supporters would na ought not , b e en P in tecl e tad he IA 11 s tha f t te: t ha t t° hi' - eald c\voLntirtyt,oanbde supposed aeainst thin the country would offerc)___Aioga wall the putaton which tuth Pt " t. BANK OF (From this Ni in Account, pursuant to the Act 7 the Week ending on Saturday, th( ISSUE DEP. X. Notes 26,800,325 26,800,325 Dated the 19th day of February, BANKING Di X. Proprietors' capital • • 14,553,000 hest• • • • • • Public deposits (in cluding Exchequer, Commissioners of National Debt, Sav ings-banks, and Di vidend accounts) Other deposits . . Seven day and other bills.. • • X 42,730,305 Dated the 19th day of February, COURSE OF EXCIL Amsterdam ......c.r. 12 9}, Ditto, at sight ...... 12 si / 4 2 Rotterdam .... 2U. 12 10 Antwerp.. .......... 26 15 11amburgli .... • •M.B. 13 13% Altona • ...... • • .... Paris, 3 tiv.ys' sight .. • . 25 75 D,tto. 3 months .. .... 26 Marseilles ••••• • • • .. • 26 10 Ihiardeaux. ..... • 26 10 Frankfort on Maine.... 122% Petersburgh, 3 U 5.... • • Berlin . • .. • • • . • • Vienna, effee. flo ••• • •• 10 1034 Trieste, ditto.... • • .... 10 10; Madrid .... • ••••• .... 36 Cadiz • • ... ........ 36 Bilbao.. • • • • .. • • • • • • • • 11areelona. • - - • .. • • .... Seville.. • • • • THE LONDON GAZETTIi% (THIS EVEitiING.) BOARD OF GREEN CLOTH, ST. JAMES'S PALACE, FEB. 20..1446. Notice is hereby given. that the carriages coming to her Majesty's Drawing -room, on Thursday, the 26th of February, arc to fall into the liue at the top of St. James's-street, come down the left hand side, and enter the iron gate nearest tothe Palace, set down at the Arcade, return by the iron gate nearest to Marlborough house, and pass through Pall-mall into St. James's square, by George-street. Whin called, they are to pass from St. 'James's-square, by Charles-street, into Itegent street, Jermyn-strcet, come down St. James's• street, as before, take up, and go away through Pall-mall. No hackney carriages will be permitted to come within the gates. For all persons having the privilege of the entrée, tickets will be delivered at the Bein:, of Green Cloth, on Tuesday n ,, xt, between the hours of eleven and three o'clock; their carriages are to enter the gate at Constitution-hill,!procced down St. James's park, through Stable-yard, into the Ambassadors'-court, set down, and go out into Ckveland-row. The carriage of the Ambassadors, Foreign Minister, Cabinet Ministers, and Great Officers of State may afterwards wait in the Ambassadors'-court, and those of all other persons having the entrée may wait in Stable-yard er St. James's park till called; they are thin to take up in the same order as they had set down, and pass a lay up the left bane side of St. James's-street. No carriage will be admitted with corn. pany a second time with the same ticket, to prevent which it must be produced at Constitution Hill-gate, and Stable yard-gate alo, where a c o rner of it w ill b e t orn o ff by th e Marsla'men in attendance; and no person can be allowed the privilege of the entree by any other approach to the Palace than the gates last mentioned. _ _ _ LIVERPOOL, Lord Steward. ST. JAMES'S PALACE, FEB. 17. The Queen has been pleased, on the nomination of Lord Forester, to appoint the under• mentioned gentlemen to her Majesty's Honourable Corps of Gentlemen-at-Arnie—Erin Vardon, Esq., vica Hodgson, and Henry Mulock, , vice Trick, who have retired. WHITEHALL, Fr 11, 19. The Queen has been pleased to nominate and appoint the Right Hon. Henry Pelham Pelham Clinton (commonly called Earl of Lincoln), to be one of the visitors of Maynooth Col lege, in the room of the Right Hon. Sir Thomas Francis Fremantle, Bart., resigned. FOREIGN-OFFICE, FEB. 17. The Queen has been pleased to approve of Don Jose Maria Mendoza, as Con,lll in London for the Mexican R' public. CROWN-OFFICE, Frit. 20, 1846. AtEM bERS RETU NEDTO S ERVEIN THIS PRESENT PARLIAMENT County of Dm-set—Henry Ker Seymcr, of Hanford , house, in the county of Dorset, Esq., in the room of the lion. An thony Ashley Cooper, commonly called Lord Ashley, who hai accepted the (ace of Steward of her Majesty's Chiltern Hundreds. John Floyer, of Stafford, in the county of Dorset, Esq., in the room of Henry Charles Sturt, Esq., who has accepted the office of Steward of her Majesty's Chiltern Hun dreds. County of Suffolk (Eastern Division)—Edward Sherlock Gooch, of Beacon-hill, in Martlesham, in the said county of Suffolk, Esq., in the room of John Lord Henniker, who has accepted the office of Steward of her Majesty's Chiltern Hundreds City of Westminster—Sir De Lacy Evans, K.C.8., in the room of the Hon. Henry John Rous, who has accepted the office of one of the Commissioners pf the Admiralty. WAR OFFICE, FEB. 20. Ist Foot Guards—Capt. the Hon. C. 11. Lindsay, from 43d Foot, to be Lieutenant and Captain, vice Coulson, who ex changes, Feb. 20. 37th Foot—Lieut. E. D. Atkinson to be Captain, by pur chase, vice Cassan, who retires; Ensign A. B. Cater to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Atkinson • C. S. Blois, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Cater, Feb. 20. 43d Foot—Lieutenant and Captain R. B. Coulson, from the Ist or Grenadier Regiment of Foot Guards, to be Captain, vice the Hon. C. H. Lindsay, who exchanges, Feb. 20. 77th Foot—Assistant-Surgeon W. Barrett, M. 8., from the Staff, to be Assistant Surgeon, vice APlllree, promoted, Feb. 20. 89th Foot—E. J. Head, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Richardson, promoted. Feb. 20. MEMORANDUM.—The Christian names of Ensign Evans, of the Ist Regiment of Foot, are Francis Hugh. Commissions by the Queen. East Middlesex Rigiment of Militia—Capt. F. W. Hamil ton to be Adjutant, Feb. 7. Second ReLiment of the Duke of Lancaster's Own Militia —J. Weir, Gent., to be Adjutant, Feb. 7. Shropshire Regiment of Militia—Capt. J. Q. Perdu, late of the 53d Foot, to be Adjutant, Jan. 29. Commissions by the Commissioners of Lieutenancy for the City of London. Regiment of Royal London Militia—J. R. Home, Esq., late Captain of the 6th Royal Regimen, to be Majo-, vice V. Russell, deceased ; C. F. Mackenzie, Esq., late Lieutenant of the 61st Regiment, to be Captain, vice T. Redmond, de ceased, Feb. 4; Lieutenant .T. Thomson, jun., to be Captain, vice It. Poisons, deceased, Feb. 5 ; W. T. Hall, Esq., late Lieutenant of the 6th Royal Regiment, to be Lieutnant, ylee J. Crowther, deceased; Lieutenant William Thomas n Hall, to be Adjutant, with the rank of Captain, b y— Lnie,,u _ ,: ! , en r? a y on e th t, e}! vice Joseph Tatham, resigned, Feb. 4. --, , t i. 1. t. . Heath . to be Lieutenant, Feb. 5 ; Ensign W. T. (low, Gant to l . , eut_en en 7 ., t, Feb. 6 ; Ensign J. Quallette to be 4 ; S. C. Milford, 7d G. B. Childs,. Gent., to be Ensign, Feb. Commissions by the -I:te beEnsign' Feb. 4; F. R. Win- Ensi gn Feb.:' 7 U . e. L T np,gil, Feb. 6; J. H. Allan, Gent. to be * ' Royal r N . 1 0 l a r i t h ": j :'v la'rd L Captain, vice Cooke, GloucesterresignM,Na— to be Captain, vice Gregoiy, e re? King's Own Regiment of StafforednGs'lll. Commissions by the Lord Lieutenant Esq. to be Captain, vice the lion. J. to Lieu artermaster, Ling, Gent., to be Ensign, Feb. 8 ; ord enant of Gloucestershire. it.rte,,bo.l, Austin, l.2 Esq., to be er); 11 ; J. Ilaythorne, Esq., Staffordshire. C. Talbot, Haig, Cope, gent. to be Lieutenat, vice Daniels, deceiti"ignfd; E. WHITEHALL, DEC. 24, 1845. "(1' Feb. 14. The Right Hon. Sir Nicolas Conyngharn Tindal, Rut. Lord Chid Justice of the Court. of Common Pleas, h as au ''' m iv o io re lit ,s i i o m n p o ie f p,,inted Edward Bryan Jones, of Newtown, in the county of Mon tgomerv, Gent., to be one cf the Perpetual Commissioners the acknowledgments of deed» to be executed by for taking t n i 7 n a e r i r women,i n e l d ore eol.er ; e l modes of assurance, in and for the county , of Montgomery, sn,daelrldtirrAtchte sPigt'iltufitiorntohfe also in and for the counties of Radnor and Salop. WHITEHALL, FEB. 10. merv, Gent., to be a Machynlleth, in the county of 'llontgo . Chancery. The Lord Chancellor has a pp ointed David Howell, of B ANKRUPTS. Master Extraordinary in the Hig h Court of Abraham Trebout, jun., silk manufacturer, Steward-street, Spita/fields. • James Harriss, butcher, Leadenhall ma rket. henry Docker, oil man, Pall mall. Charles Collins, yarn and commission agent, Kiaderrainster. , HOUSE OF COIIMOISS. The SPEAKER took the Chair at a few minutes before Four o'clock. NEW MEMBERS. Sir DE LACY Ev.tivs took the oaths and his seat for West minster, in the room at Captain lious, who has accepted the office of one of the Lords of the Admiralty. The lion. and Gallant Member, who was introduced by Mr. Bouverie and Captain Pechell, was received with loud cheers on his entrance. Mr. Goods took the oaths and his seat for East Suffolk, in the room of Lord Henniker. Mr. FLOYEIt and Mr. SEirstra also took the oaths and their seats for the county of Dorset, in the room of Lord Ashley and Mr. Sturt. RAILWAY BUSINESS, A petition was presented against the Aylesbury and Thame Junction Railway Bill. The follow i ng R a ilway Bills were read a second time, and were ordered to be committed, London and Brighton Railway (Dorking Branch). Manchester, Buxton, Matlock, and Midland Junction Railway. Mold Junction Railway. Nurth and South Junction Railway. General Terminus and Glasgow Harbour Railway. Stifling and Dunfermline Railway. Edinburgh and Leith Atmospheric Railway. Bristol and South Wales Junction Railway and Ferry. Windsor, Slough, and Staines Atmospheric Railway. Aylesbury and Theme Junction Railway. The O'CONOR DON moved that it be an instruction to the Select Committee on Petitions, that in all cases of Irish railway Bills, wherein the promoters shall have proved com pliance with the standing orders in the house of Lords, they do give priority to the investigation of the compliance with the standing orders of the House of Commons applicable to such Bills over all other cases which may stand for inquiry before them, provided due notice of the sitting of the Com mittee for such purpose has been given, and that the promoters of such Bills propose to prove the compliance with the standing orders, either wholly or in 1 art, by vied voce evidence." The Hon. Gentleman proceeded to point out the difficulties at tendant on the present system, one instance of which he would point out to the attention of the House ; it was the case of the county surveyor of Westport. who, having proved his case in the House of Lords, had been obliged to go back to Ireland in order to attend the assizes, and he would have to come back again, to prove the same case in the House of Commons. Another case was that of a friend of his, who having proved compliance with the standing orders in the other H"ouse, found that there were 184 cases on the list of the House of Commons to be heard before his case would come on, thereby putting him to great inconvenience by the delay he would experience. Mr. GROGAN said his own motion on the paper was sub stantially the same as the one the Ilonourable Member had just proposed. It would be in the recollection of the House that at an early period of the present session both branches of the Legislature adopted a resolution to establish the prac tice of commencing Irish Railway Bills in the House of Lords. His own motion, and that of the Hon. Member opposite, was simply to carry out that measure more practically and effectually, and seeing that it would facilitate rather titan retard the progress of private business in that House, there could be hardly any objection to its adoption. Mr. O'CONNELL could see no reason why thismotion shou'd be confined to Irish railway Bills. It ought in his opinion to be extended to all private Bills relating to Ireland, and he should move as an amendment that the words " Irish rail way ills "be left out, and the words " Irish Bills" be sub stituted for them. Lord G. SOMERSET said it was quite impossible that the motion of the Hon.' Gentleman could be acceded to, and although no one was more anxious than himself to facilitate the passing of Irish railway Bills, yet it was his duty to ask the House to resist the motion of the lion. Gentleman opposite. Mr. STRUTT said that there were many parties in town who were the rromotcrs of English railway Bills, and who had to pay hundreds of pounds per week to the witnesses whom they had brought with them from the country in support of their lines. The House, in his opinion, should deli berate carefully before they ventured to give priutity to any Bills of this kind, unless they received an intimation from the parties who were put to expense by the delay that it was their wish that the Irish railways should be proceeded with in pre ference.—( Hear, hear.) The Hon. Member for Roscommon had proposed that all the Irish Bills should have priority over all English Bills, the consequence of which would be that the agents of English railway Bills would be kept in town together with all their witnesses, for several days, doing nothing, and at great expense. Such a course as that would most undoubt edly cause the greatest discontent. On the other hand, the Hon. Member fur Dublin proposed that one Committee only should be engaged exclusively in dealing with Irish railway Bills. He (Mr. Strutt) should be disposed to give his sup.. port to the latter yroposal.—(Hear, hear.) lie certainly wished, before the House came to any decision, and took upon itself the heavy responsibility which this matter would involve, Hon. Members would carefully weigh the question.,-( Hear.) Dr. BO\VRING was proceeding to make some remarks upon the motion, but was called to order. Sir W. HE ATIIGO lE said that unless a preference were given to the Irish Railway Bills, the arrangement which had been entered into by the House of Lards which gave such Bills the priority would be perfectly imperative. The expense which would be entailed by the pro posed priority to the - Irish Bills would net be so great as represented by Honourable Members. Under those circum stances, aerefore, be should give dis support to the motion for giving preference to the Irish Railway Bdls.—( Hear, hear. ) Dr. BOWRING said he was of opinion that everything in their power ought to be done to facilitate the passing of Irish Bids through the House. lie considered that it would be a very great advantage to have the Irish Bills ce.ne down from the House of Lords, after having received the sanction of their Lord ships, and he hoped there would be no delay offered to such Bills, as there were a very great number of persons con nected with such lines now in town at vast expense. He considered that such persons bad a claim to be first hrard, as they were subject to great inconvenience in consequence of the distance they lived being so much greater than the witnesses attending on English lines ; and he hoped the Irish lines would be dispatched in preference to English ones, for the reasons be had stated. Sir JAMES GRAHAM ( who spoke in' a very low tone) said that he was of opinion the suggestion of the Honour able Gentleman was well worthy the consideration of the House, as the state of Ireland at present unfortunately required that some immediate steps should be taken. There was also in Scotland distress in one district of a very serious nature, and the proposed line passing through that district, he (Sir J. Gaaham) was of opinion ought also to pass the House with as little delay as possible. Mr. B. HA V. ES perfectly agreed in the propriety of the question just put to the Right Hon. Baronet the Secretary for the Horne Department respecting the measure which had just been propeeed by the Hon. Member for Roscommon, He thought it was necessary that some measure should be taken, in order to save the disadvantage which might possibly arise from 'he Irish Hallways Bills being began in the House of Lords. It should not be forgotten that great expenses would be incurred by following such a course not long possibly before it could be known that the Bills had received the sanction of the House of Commons. He was aware that there were peculiar circum stances which would guard the Railway Bills for Ire laud, which might seem to justify the adoption of any ex iraordinary course, )et he thought it would Ibe better that they should be submitted to the Standing Orders' Committee. for he perfectly agreed in the opinion of the lion. Member for Derby (Mr. Strutt), that the chairman of that Committee would ha fully able to do justice to all the parties concerned. Having passed the ordeal of that Committee and the sub- Committees, which were all composed of gentlemen, he thought the suggestion might bit adopted originating the railway busi ness for Ireland and Scotland too in the Hence of Lords. He agreed, therefore, to this extent with the suggestion but he thought it would be unwise to pass any formal resolution upon the subject. The gentlemen composing those committees would sufficiently perceive the feeling which had been expressed on every aide of that House, and the matter might, therefore, be safely left to the committe of standing orders. Sir GEORGE CLERK perfectly agreed with the Hon. Ilember that had just sat down, that it would be unwise for the House to fetter by a resolution upon a matter which ape peered to him to be al eady sufficiently provided for. Inc feelings of tl.e House bail been sufficiently shown to the ma nagers of the several companiess, and he thought it better, therefore, that the Bills should be sent up without fetter ing the Committee with any resolutions of the kirid. Sir G. GREY considered that some measure should be taken by which railway Bills might be disposed of without waiting for the order in which they are at present arranged. Mr. W. PATTEN stated that he had caused notices to be given to the Parliamentary agents to be ready with their wit nesses on Monday next. The present number of railway Bills had been formed into 33 groups; and in the meantime the various Committees would consider which project it was ade visable to proceed with. Mr. FOX Al A ULE agreed with the Right Hon. Baronet that a discretionary power should be given to the Committees. In the case of the Glasgow Railway, referred to by the Right Hon. Baronet the Secretary of State for the Home Department, he considered that scheme should be proceeded with as early as possible, in consequence of the distress which existed in the parts through which the line was to pass. Mr. AGLION BY did not think there would be any diffi culty upon the subject of the classification. He thought it necessary that the Bills should be proceeded with in their chronological order; but if the Government should arrive at the conclusion that some particular Bill, on account of dis tress in the parts affected by the Bill, should be exempted from the operation of this general rule, they should mention that particular case to the House, and the House rhould then direct and instruct the Committee to take this particular case out of i Is order. O'CONNOR DON then agreed to withdraw his motion. e Mr. P. SCROPE said that the present system of in quiring into the merits of different lines was very inefficient, and required some alteration. Last session one line of railway was 84 days before a Committee, and spent from 300 , 000 '. to 400,0001., and yet at the e nd of the session was very little far cher advanced than at the beginning. .The most important works were, under the present system, postponed, and the time of the Committees was occupied in the discussion of trifling undertakings that were generally attended with little or no opposition. The real fact was, that a Commission, such as had been appointed by Lord Grey at the close of last session, should be formed, to analyse all railway projects placed before them, and they should at the meeting of Parlia ment make ther reports upon the undertakings. He would ask the gentlemen of the House whether they supposed that the average Committees of the House, cons istin g of five Members eeach, were at all superior to a Commission composed of five of the most eminent men in the kingdom. Mr. GISBORNE wished to ask the Right Hon. the Vice- President of the Board of Trade, whether the Government intended to adept any measures founded on the Gauge Com mission ? In their report he found a resolution to the effect that a gauge of 4 feet 84 inches was the most efficient. Did the Government intend to bring the subject before the House? Sir G. CLERK said that he was not prepared to say that the Government was ready to make any proposi tion a t present. The C omm i ss i on had presented a very v o lu minous mass of evidence, w hi c h was then in the hands of the printer. That evidence would have to be submitted to the Government in its tchrh-------fat(:hwe ,uNPO(7----171 et hle;u:k;:c! li a rc' s of pr e asit tp ies of n-ysn'ic° lak ind tse°:a: wouldl i ee laght er , was 51 he wa tt ae t to th e ) rurti. I that of the i le eh;He dbe * oald ad Pressi.d k titur birn out j ) hould b e • t ha ' t e. l, 4 °l l EllT LA a d been i 4 111 _ 1 41 d own. 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