The Sun. — London, England, 1852-05-22 00:00:00

MARKET INTELLIGENCE. (From the London New "'rice Current, May 21.) Stroen.-To-day there was a goad business concluded in the West India market, and merchants refused to sell under the rates previously established, although there was a plentiful supply. Oeorations aro 1,013 hhd3, including at minion 86 hhds 26 tees 190 hrls Barbadoes ord yellow sold at 32s 6d to 344, mid 343 6d to 363, g sod mid to good 363 6d to 37s 61; 3.57 hhds, 118 brig crystalised Demerara, Rood to fine 383 to 433 6d, mid 35s to 373 6d, ord 33s 6d to 34s 63, brown 32s to 33s ; 124 hhds, and 64 tres Jamaica, low to mid yellow 33s to 355, good mid to good 35s 6d to 363 6d per cwt. The total operations for the week are 5,196 hds and trs. EAST INDIA.-This afternoon previous rates were sustained for Bengal Sugar, and at auction 2,591 bags were sold, mid and good white Benares at 35s 6d to 375, ord 34s to 355, good to fine soft yellow 31s to 33s 6d, mid to good grainy 25s to 383 6d. Of Madras 11,650 bags fetched the full value, fine grainy 36s 6d to 37s 6d, ord to good 33a to 3Gz, and brown 28s 6d to 32s per cwt. REFINED-To-day refined Sugar was in active de mand for home trade purposes, and rates closed with firmness; low to fine grocery lumps 47s 6d to 505. Crushed Sugar Snds a free sale for exportation. MAURITIIIS.-This afternoon there was no further advance for Mauritius, but at auction 3,200 bags all sold, fine yellow at 36s to 36s 6d, mid to good 33s 6cl to 35s 6d, and ord 32s to 335. FOREIGN.-To-day Foreign Sugar was much wanted for shipping, and stiff rates offered. Three cargoes of yellow Havannah was sold at 20s 63 to 22s 6d for num ber 12 to 14. None was again submitted to public sale. Moeassxs.-The demand is on the increase, and higher rates are obtained, supply continuing limited. Sales of Antigua and Barbadoes made at 14s 6d to 15s 6d, and other East India 133 to 143: Cuba and Porto Rico wanted at 14s to 15s; Bengal and Mauritius 12s to 12s 6d; but only small parcels can be obtained. Ta marinds find a free sale; West India at 24s to 363, and East India 9s to 12s per cwt. A good demand exists for honey; Jamaica from 383 to 483. Cabs 36s to 38s, and Narbonne 56s to 583. COFFEE.-This afternoon the demand was better for Plantation Ceylon Coffee, but at previous rates, mer chants were disposed to realise. At auction 432 oks, 320 brls, and 100 bags were sold, fine marks at 63s to 70s, good 58s to 625, low mid to mid 54s to 575, fine to fine fine ord 503 to 535, low to good ord 483 to 49s e triage 41s to 48s, and pea berry 623 to 675. Native is held firmly at 44s to 44s Gd, and in good demand. At auc tion 123 bags were taken in at 453. Of Jamaica 150 pkge sold at the full value, mid at 58s to 595, low mid 533 to 553. and other sorts from 45s to 52s per cwt. TEA.-Prices are maintained for low and good ,com mon Corigou, still operations have been upon a small scale at Bid to 91 per lb. For other sorts a good do mend exists, and holders have c.Dr.fidence; the rates ob tained for rathe: blackish leaf to blackish leaf area 9id to 100, strong and pekoe kinds lld to is 53. per lb. Previous terms are supported for Sonchong,. common at 9d to 103, mid to good I Id to is 3d, end fina 19 43 to is 83. Oolong is more plentiful, and a slight redaction has taken piece for lower sorts. Purchases are upon a limited scale ; good to fine is to is 6d, and low to mid Sid to I lid. Pouchong is still wanted at from 6d to lid. Green cannot generally be obtained under previous terms, although the quantity on offer ex ceeds thet of last week, the demand isaviog been limited for all purposes; Hyson, low to mid rules at is to is 4d, good to fine is 5d to 2s 3d, choice 2s 43 to 23 10d; Young Hyson, common 9d to 11d, mid to good is to 13 6d, fine is 7d to 2s 3d; Imperial Canton 103 to lld, Hyson sort le to is 73, fine is 8d to 2s, Twankay 9id to is; Gunpowder, Canton 101 to is, Hyson kind Is Id to 2a 73, fine ditto 2s 8d to 3.; 4d, Caper 9d to 103, Scented lld to is 4d, and Hyson Skin 7d to is per lb. Scented Orange Pekoe is in greater supply; sellers are willing to accept is 13 to is 8d for good to fine, and 101 to is for inferior, but dealers are reluctant to do business. Prices continue firm for flowery Pekoe; a good demand also exist?, fine and su perior at is 8d to 2s 101, and low to good Is 3d to is 7d. SPICES.-To-day a public sale of 238 cases Cassia Lignea went at full rates; pile one at 963, and pile two at 949 to 95s per cwt. RICE.-To-day there is a reltictacce to operate in East India Rice, and et auction 1,100 bags Bengal were nearly all taken in at 93 63 to 103 for good white; 100 trcs American cleaned at 193 per cwt. SPIRITS.-East India Rum is not to be obtained under is 43 proof on accouct of a small supply. Leeward Island is held for is 51 to is 56d proof. Prices con tinue to decline for Demerara, Is lld to 2s Id having been accepted for 30 to 40 over proof; but several parcels have been sold, chiefly at 2s Id. The previous currency is with difficulty supported for Jamaica, supply being plentiful; home and export demand small. Prices for choice kinds 35 to 38 over proof rule at from 3s to 3s 41, fine 2s 103 to 3533, good mid to good 30 to 34 over 2543 2s Bd, mid 2s to 2s 3d, low 24 to 28 over Is 103 to is I Id per gallon. There are ready buyers of Brandy, and deliveries exceeding arrivals, previous terms are well sustained. Cognac bast brands of the vintage of 1851 realising from 43 21 to 4s 43, 1850 ditto 43 53 to 4s 7d, 1849 ditto 4s 9.1 to 4s 113, 1848 ditto 53 3d to 5s sd, older 53 61 to 63 6d, low to mid 3s to 4s, and Bordeaux la lld to 23 23. For British made Spirit trade is not brisker, and there are sellers at 9s 83 cash; Gin 83 33 for 22 under proof, and 17 ditto 8s 93. Geneva met with a slow sale at is 83 to 13 9d, and fine 2s to 2s 4d per gallon. INDIGO.-Spanish is much wanted, and the prices ob tained are rather above last week. At auction 120 serous Guatemala sold at 23 lld to 3s 6d for very low lean to mid Cortes; at 23 103 to 4s 10d for mid to good Sobres. CooniNEAL.—Prices have given way 2d per lb for in ferior silvers. At auction 630 bgs were mostly sold; Honduras silvers, low to good, at 39 6d to 3s Bd, fine 3s 9d to 3s 10d, low to very fine black 4s to 5s 4d. Mexican, ord to fine blacks 3s 9d to 4s 4d, low to good silvers 3s 6d to 3s 7d; Java, black 3s 10d to 4s, and very ord silvers 2s 8d per lb. Ou.s.—This afternoon at public's's" 39 cask§ Southern Oil sold at 341:f0r good; 120 casks Cochin Cocoa Nut sold, good and fine 33s to 35s 3d; 35 tuns Sperm, first sort 871 to 881. TALLOW.—This afternoon the public sales of Tallow went off at steady rates.. Of South American 624 pkgs mostly sold at 343 to 36i; 105 casks Australian, good mutton 37s to 37s 6d, beef 35s to 35s 6d; '9 cks East India, ord 34s 3d. BANK: OF ENGLAND. , (From last night's Gazette.) An Aecoutt, pursuant to the Act 7th and Bth of Victoria, cap, 112 for the Week ending on Saturday, the 15th day of May, 1852. Ml= DarilwaNT. Z• Notes issued.....:.. 33,819,1G0 Government debt .• 1 1,015,100 Other securities'.• • • 2 ,84,951) Goldeoln and.bUillon IJ, 85,725 bullion %." • • • • 83,375 $33,819,100 Z33,ii19.100 MARSIIA..LL, Chief Cashier. Dated the 26th day of May. 1352. BANKING DEPA.ILTIMS T. Proprietors'c apital .• 14,553.000 Reit - . • ........ 3,126,621 Public deposits (in- • chiding Exchequer, Commissioners of Natibnal Debt, Sac ings-banks, and Di vidend acconno).. 4,265 675 Other deposits •• • • 13,686,289 Seven day and other 8i1Li.............. 1,220,324 ,Government securi ties (including Dead Weight Annuity) .. 13,451,657 Other sccuritle;; 10,765,581 Notes •••••• • • • • • • 12,14+ 86A Gold and silver coin.. 485,8 £36,851,909 £36,851,909 M. MARSHALL, Chief Cashier. Dated the 2Gth day of May, 185' ArnstexaltlßSE OF EXC Ditr ßotterdam oaths.. 12 2 A n tw e rp,. .. • .•• •••• •• 12 2 wi B rs e s• •.: .. 25 70 Trambuzgh ...„ 25 70 • 13 11 . Parr, 3 days'sight 5 ' '— Ditto, 8 months 5 9 Ma:soillas •••• •• ••.... 26 73 % Boardeaux• • • • ••..•, • Fraukfortoa.alaing.... 1221; Berlin • • • • • • • • • • • • •• •• Vienna, eCn. •d 0...—. 12 30 ••.... 12 32 ret.:r_;bargn •• •• • bfadril 49% Calls • . ••• •• •••• •• • • 497„, Baresloaa •• • ..... •• ' •• •• •• ••• IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. ROUSE OF LORDS, May 21. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his scut OD the Wool sack at Five o'clock. Lord CAMPBELL presented a petition from a Mr. Charles Campbell, praying for the establishment of in. stitutions in India for the education of the natives. JURISDICTION IN EQUITY BILL. In reply to Lord LYNDBURST, The LORD CHANCELLOR, said it was his inteae time to move the second reeding cf this Bill on Monday, and then to refer it to a Select Committee. Lord TRURO bad no objection to the course proposed by the Noble and Learned Lord. Lord LYNDHURST said he had looked at the printed Bill, and he found it embodied substantially the recommendations of the Commissioners. He thought no discussion ought to take place with regard to the principle of the Bill on the second reading. SARDINIA. Earl GRANVILLE wished to k now whether the Government had any objection to state to the House what was tho nature of the most recent information which they had received with regard to the Government of Sardinia. Great interest was felt in this country in reference to Sardinia; first, in consequence of satisfactory commercial relations with Sardinia; and, secondly, owing to the great constitutional experiment which was there being made. He therefore hoped the Government would not consider him exceeding his duty in putting the present question. The Earl of MALMESBURY said the intelligence which had been received of the resignation of the Marquis D Azeglio was perfectly correct, but their Lord. ships would be glad to learn that on the 17th ultimo the King seat fir him again, and requested him to take his accustomed seat at the board. His Majesty had, moreover, given him a carte blanche to choose what Minis ters he liked.; Be (Earl Malmesbury) could not sit down withourexpressing on the part of her Majesty's Govern- . ment the great pleasure they felt on the receipt of this news. The Marquis of Azeglio had conducted for three years, a period of great difficulty and danger, the govern ment of Sardinia on constitutional principles, and the greatest possible, prosperity had resulted to the country. He hoped this act of the Sovereign was an earnest that he intended to continue a constitutional form of government. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE bore tribute to the able administration of the Marquis of Azeglio. INVENTIONS OF CAPTAIN WARNER. The Duk2 of WELLINGTON—My Lords, I have to apologise to your Lordships, and to my Noble Friend opposite (Earl Talbot), for happening to be absent from the HOLM 911 the 14th lust., the day on which he brought forwarcaiiiriotion l for referring to a Committee ()flour Lordships' House the inventions of Mr. Warner. My Lords, it was by accident that I was absent. There being no house on the Thursday, I was not aware of the notice of my Noble Friend being on the books until after he had made his motion; and I could not attend the House on that day.—(Hear, hear.) My Lords, it I had been in the Settee I should have represented to your Lordships that the subject on which it was desired a Committee of your Lordships' should sit had already been under the consideration of the Crown, in the office of the Master-General of the Ordnance—in consequence I believe, of au address in the Illonee of Commons; but, at all events, I am certain that the inquiry took place at the particular desire of, the three principal Minis ters of her Majesty—Lord Melbourne; to my cer tain knowledge, Sir Robert Peel; and Lord John Russell. The subject, then, my Lords, has undergone inquiry and discussion in the office of the Master-Gene ral of the Ordnance; that inquiry has been of a very scien tific character—(Hear, hear)—and, under these circum stance, Ido not think inquiry should take place before your Lordships, the more particularly at it is intended to ask for the expenditure of a large sum of money. My Lords, we have heard of money speculations.—(Hear.) I have heard of persons advancing large SUMS to this gentleman, in the hops that he would receive a large re ward from the public for this invention. Is really appears to me, therefore, that this is not exactly a question into which, under the circumstances, the House of Lords ought to inquire. —(Hear, hear.) If I had been in my place on the day when my Noble Friend introduced his motion, I should have felt it to have been my duty to have urged upon your Lordships to have before you the proceedings which had taken piece in the office of the Master-General of the Ordnance, and afterwards I should have requested your Lordships to agree to the address I now ask ycu to adopt, namely—" That an humble ad dress be presented to her Majesty, praying that her Ma jesty will be pletiaed to give directions that there be laid before this House copies or extracts of any report made to the Veator-General of the Ordn anon on the subject of the inventions of Mr. Warner." My Lords, lam aware that Mr. Warner has objected to the officers appointed by the Ordnance to make these inquiries, and particularly that he has objected to a gall ent friend of mine, Sir Howard Douglas. Indeed, I understand my Noble Friend (Earl Talbot) mentioned him in this House when be introduced his motion. Now I tteg leave to read to your Lordships a few words !beta a letter from this same gentleman, Mr. Warner, to the Master-General of the Ordnance, upon this vary officer, Sir Howard Douglas.—(Hear, hear.) Ho say's, with respect to the appointment of Sir Howard Douglas and Sir Edward Owen, "I approve of the choice the Government have made in these distinguished offinese."—(Hear, hear, and cheers.) My Lords, Sir Edward Owen could not attend on this Committee, owing to his b eing employed in the service, but Sir Byam Martin (1, d, and his is an officer whom your Lordships know to be distinguished for his services. My Lords, under th ese circumstances, I think it would be advisable to wait until your Lordships have seen what was reported upon , these inventions by a committee of scientific officers of the navy and army appointed by the Master-General of the Ordnance to consider the expediency of adopting this invention for the service of her Majesty.—(Cheer •s.) The Earl of DERBY observed LI tat he was so far in the position of the Noble and Gallant:Uuke that he also had been prevented from attending in. their Lordships' House on the day on which the molten was made to refer the invention, or presumed invention, of Captain Warner to a Select Committee; and he would admit that if he viewed the case in the as me light with the Noble Duke ho should have coot eto the conclusion to - which he (the Noble Duke) has' i apparently arrived— namely, that it would not be expos iient to enter into a Aiscussion of the merits of this Levi ention. If, moreover, be believed that this Committee / ins moved for as an appeal against the decision of vet :y competent officers appointed on the highest authorise to examine and re port on the inventions, he should', have felt as strongly as the Noble Duke that nothing oteald be more inconve nient than (and this he said with net meaning the slight. est dierespeento their Lordships) to refer the question from a more chmpetent to a less entnipetent authority.— (Hear.) If this was an appeal fie nu that inquiry for the purpose of obtaining a sum of mon a y from .Parliament, ho should be the first to object to the inquiry proposed; but he apprehended the Noble D mite must be somewhat misinformed as to the intention w I.de which this Com mittee was asked, and the intent . ;ion wide which their Lordships had granted it.—(Hear, hear.) All the papers which formed the subject of the !it idress of the Noble Duke had, he believed, been sire aiy submitted to Par liament, and there could be no ix:convenience arising from their being reprinted, if tie) Noble Duke de sired their production either befor e the House cr the Committee. The Duke of WELLINGTON'--Look at the terms of the motion. The Earl of DERBY (in oonti Satiation) said he was quite aware of the terms of the motion, and also that the Select Committee was appointed to eport u pon Capt. Warner's inventions and the sever al matters connected therewith. BM he thought the Nob In and Gallant Duke was still under misapprehension wit h regard. t o the ob jects of the inquiry, and its terms a eked for or granted. The fact was this—Captain Warn et • bad made,. or was alleged to have made, two very itn portant discoveries. One, the long range, certainly laid a fair trial, and was most unequivocally condemned by the parties em ployed to examine and report up( re it. Hero Captain Warner contended that he had b eon placed at a dis advantage; but he did pot, ask fc r another trial or exhibition of his projeCtile. With regard to the in vention, there could be. doubt • whatever that Cap tain Warner was Pessaased of thl. , secret of a highly explosive power, calculated .to pre 'duce extraordinary effect's.. • flow the, applieation, was to be applied was another question, and was totally sets aratp from the exclu sive compound itself. ' How far the i n Vention could be ap plied to naval or military operatio:an, or be made avail able for sggrersion or detente, was. a ellitinct question. The destruction of the vessel, autr o :cling to the testimony, of the officers present, *di' more s'szeldim and complete than could have been had by any other explosive sub-, stance ordinarily used in warfare; but onrall previoue occasions Captain Warner had ,defired;that tipon the stiehese of his - operations being efilriitted, - he should, without any further inquiry, be pail a large sum out of the public purse. .Such was the proposition made by the late Sir 'Robert Peel, but which he had' properly and most justifiably refused to aceedo to. Capt. Warner new came 'Were' their Lordahipe with a different pro , P9 l itiott: He was prepared to come before ; the Select Committee without requiring any pledge or even under- B w r pa; as to remuneration, and lele before them the c!, secret of his invention. Ureler these drcnret-. stances,he thought it would be blird. upon Ciptain Tearnee to Peers fully r efuse his 'application. Atid'here let it be re memberiid t hat i,b the Committee would be composed of tions which 1.0 appreciate the meeita of the explana evidence now 0 inventor now offered. The facts and the posed to be produced velre not laid before the fo rmer_ . tri n :banal, who refused to recommend the peymcatt of soma of which ! e t e ge sum of money for experiments, partially failed, 'and some of which were pa rtially suettessful, and the ai lc of which An y pas to y particular purposes of naval or milita ry was n ot a " tea P i l e a , id that hatthh6ouPgrhtt of the inventor. He would say eiLo . rdshipii would be dealing h ' ar dly by Captain Mr tillaer; whatever Might - be the his inve ntion if fie wire not afforded m erits or demstyriths c ol the cpportuni _ g tof nuking the proposed ex plittitttions•—(Liear, ble'm) ' Noble - F - to eipiein that . : my y 4nrod, I beg leave riend teieteken with respect 'The Dakeof NVELLllqprton_m , to be enturo of Tut eGmuli3si ", or committee, appointed I bp}4oanthtenOatt6duttnieinycie3, is to inquire an invention s intothe in vent i ons. The f i rst all?--(Hear.) . I say that it is not an invention; and I found that state ment on the a e c!.aion of the Committee. N ex t, i s i t effi. cient for the service? 13 it of such a nature that it can farmed m applied o tour laboratories, rsaetrovriieee3 or be it he c onstru a ed and carried wi th safety in our magazines abroad? Could it be carried in safety in our carriages on land? Theo werd all questions that were considered by the Committee u nder the Master-General of the Ordnance.— (Hear, bear) . These, m y Lords, are nice questioes for the decision, 1 think, of a com m i ttee of naval and milit ar y officers, antinot of a Committe e o f , your Lordships' Ho us e. —(Hear, bear.), The question is now in the hands of the Executive Goverment, and b as been under a committee of officers; under these air. HANGE.-FRIDAY. (41!)raltaz...••••• •••• •• f•eghorn.... .• •••••••• 30 70 t3e3oa •• •••• •• •• •••• 25 67% 1IIa••••...• •• •••• Venice •••• •• •• •• •• •• Maples ...... •..... •• 4C el:tarn, per cz •• ••• • •• 122 Milnina •• ••••••• • • • • • i2211' r. 135,0,................. 5314 1p0rt0.... •.....• • . . • • 53! , i !Ile J.t.nelro •....... • • Caenos Ayres .••• • • •• gevrYephl a ... • • ort,6odays'sight t'bilacl 4 V.ICEB OP BULLION, PER OZ. Foreign Gold in bars 17 9 rclrtngsti Gold Coin .. 0 0 0 an 1.401 on'oloonj „. 0 0 0 "!Ter Don a , 0 -1 10 1 ,4 barn 0' 4 11718 RAILWAY SHARE ivii, AKETS. LIVERPOOL, MAY 21. Swot( ExcEtarraz.—The share market continues inactive, and prices not quite so good :is yesterday._ ThE} transactions as follow : —C a l e donian, 19%—DI°, Greenock vn rantoed, 15%—E as t ern Counties, 9— Lancashire and f;;Z : -- shire, 72—London and North-Western, New Quart e i, s4 y 11auchelter, Sheffield, and Lincoln shire, 'Preference, /1//1' 6 —.Ditto, 61 New Preference,,l 3_l p. — . Midland , 68 114 - , orth British, 7 7-16—St. Helen's (RailsvnY and .Canal), ", issue at 40 . dii., 33 V2—South-Eastern and Dover, 20%. tIANCHESTEN, Eor 21. Srocit EXCITANGE.—We had a very quiet market to 7 d a y, and.priees bad *downward tendency. The transactions were as follow:—Lancashire and Yorkshire, 72 q—LOndon sad North-Western, 2233—Manchester, Sheffield, and Line*. shire, 33%—South-Eastern and Dover, 20 15-16—West Ridings, 4 dis.---North Staffordshire, 7 dis. '68 3 % —Eastern Counties. 9. BIRMINGHAM, NOT - 21. • Srocx Exceaxas.--The share ;market opened h eavil y this morning, but afterwards improved, and a fair amenult of business was done at 'firm prices. The transactions reported were—Birmingham, Wolverhampton, and Stour Valley; 10 ys—Coventry and N uneaton, 125—London and North-Western, 123 1 ; —North Staffordshire; 7 dis. --Shrews - bury and Birmingham, Preference, 10% —South Stafford shire, 11. Is. 3d. dis. ROYAL POLYTECHNIC INSTITUTION,—The musical lecture iAstill continued by Mr. Buckland, but varied by bis illustrations; be takes a sketch of the past state of music, the old. legends, their origin and effect on the social life of our ancestors, and, in conclusion, makes manyjtcst observa tions on the print style of ,ballad music. The illastratitms consisted of ".The Past and Future•," " The Haunted Oak," "Jack the Giant-Killer," and a very pleasing ballad, which appeared to be greatly appreciated by, the audience, "Hope Deferred," by J. A. Spode. rATIENCR " OF BI aD3.—We h ave all heard of, and marvelled at, the " patience of Job." But what can exceed the patience of birth when hatching? During a period which continues from three to eight weeks, neither the approach of danger nor the calls of hunger can drive them from the nest. Before incubation is completed, the female, however plump at the beginning, is generally ema ciated to a skeleton. Among some tribes, the male and female sit alternately, the more equally to divide the tedious labour; among others, the male provides food for his mate, while hatching, or alleviates her toils by his melody from a neighbouring bush ; some join together in the arduous ope ration, and, by increasing the heat, endeavour to accelerate its progress. At times, however, the eggs acquire a heat that seems hurtful to infant life; on these orpasions they are left to cool ; and the hen, after a longer or sho r t er s p ace , ac cording to the weather, again resumes her occupation, with former perseverance and pleasure. —/Cidd's Own journal, THE SUN, LONDON, cumstsnces, your Lordships should refrain from inter fering in it, and your Lordships would do well to con sider the matter before you appoint the Committee; and I desire, at all events, that before the Committee enters upon the subject they should have before them all the information that can be given. The Earl of HARDWICKE said the questions brought before their Lordships by the Noble Duke as proper to be catered into were such as he himself entirely con curred in thinking were most essential. It was certainly necessary to discover what the secret W2S (if there was cue), and whether it would be available for the public service. It was to investigate these questions the Com mittee was to be appointed. In no former inquiry had the nature of the mechanism, or the composition to be used is the invention, been described. Captain Warner had certainly tried some experiments, which he (Lord Hardwicke) had witnessed, and he had seen a boat most powerfully constructed blown into fragments not larger than his arm. But the committee of officers did not know how this was done; and for the purpose of dis closingdhis, Captain Warner consented to come before a Committee of their Lordships, and to state of what the invention was composed. The Committee would be supplied with all the information available on the sub ject, and could call before them officers whose opinion would be valuable. Lord MONTEAGLE said he was the person to whom Captain Warner— Lord PANTO—Not Captain, Mr. Warner. Lord MONTEAGLE—He was the person to whom Mr. Warner had first applied upon the subject, and the two great points pressed upon the Government of Lord . Melbourne were the marvellous invisible shell, and the marvellous " long range," both of which he had been satisfied were delusive. When Mr. IL Vivian had asked Mr. Warner if he could blow up the works at Gibraltar —ho said "Oh yes, and the rock too." Now, when a man said such things as that, surely it amounted to ab solute insanity. Now, he considered the appointment of this Committee upon such a claim would be a most monstrous and unjustifiable precedent. A Committee of their Lordships would not -be a tribunal comparable to the committee of general officers who had already decided on the invention. And even if there were less doubt than there was as to the valuelessness of the al leged invention, he should object to taking the subject out of the responsibility of the Government. Sir How ard Douglas had examined the project and communicated his opinion against it to the late Sir Robert Peel, who had replied in the following letter:— "My dear Sir Howard,--I have read the speech you were good enough to send me. It is quite conclusive, but I did not require such a demonstration of the char latanrie of Mr. Warner; and le limply regret the vela , able time which has been thrown away upon this man and his projeoto is l hope Lord John Russell will read the speech before the Committee.—Most truly yours, "ROBERT PEEL." What wodld be the consequence of appointing a Com mittee of this kind (for which there was no precedent) on matters purely military, or relating to the public ser vice? The admission of a Parliamentary "case" thus implied acted as a bill of exchange to be discounted in - the City of London. Mr. Warner had already attempted to use the invention for that purpose, and had even of fered to traffic with in foreign countries. Earl TALBOT said he had not intended discourtesy to the Noble Duke in not giving him special notice of the motion, having placed it on the paper in the ordinary way. Mr. Warner had not refused to disclose his invention on former occasions. It gave him pain to be opposed by the Noble Duke, but he believed the Noble Duke acted entirely under a misapprehension. The real fact was that the invention had never been inquired into at all; and, how ever he might be exposed to the ridicule or censure of the Noble Lords opposite, ho declared that he believed it ought to be inquired into, and ho would do his daty fearlessly by demanding inquiry. He was quite willing that the Committee should comprise the Commander in-Chief, the Master-General of the Ordnance, and the First Lord of the Admiralty; but the names he had se lected comprised also Lord Combermere, the Marquis of Anglesea, Lord Hardwicke, the Duke of Richmond, Lord Saltoun, Lord Seaton, the Duke of Newcastle, and Lord Ellesmere. After the ridicule which had been cast upon the inventor as;a charlatan, Mr. Warner had a right to claim an inquiry to set his character right; and, as a Peer of Parliament, who had been charged with abetting an imposture, he felt that he had a right to demand the inquiry, especially as ho believed the matter affected the defences of the country. The Duke of WELLINGTON explained that he had not intended to impute any discourtesy to his Noble Friend, but he-had not seen the notice on the paper. It was impossible that ho should serve on the Committee, and he hoped he should be excused.--(Hear, hear.) Earl GREY said he thought that, for the reasons stated by the Noble Duke, the Committee ought not to be appointed. He had been quite surprised to find that the motion for its appointment had been carried. All departments of the Government were continually beset by projectors, and if they could obtain the sanction of some Committee, on inadequate grounds, they would procure advances of money, as Mr. Warner had al ready obtained. If an inquiry wore necessary it ought to be conducted under the auspices of the Executive Go vernment. If their Lordships had fallen into a gross blander in consenting to this Committee, let them got on of it as soon as. they could, and he therefore recom mended that the nomination of the Committee' be pea paled sine die. Tho Earl of WICKLOW said the Noble Lord opposite had lost sight altogether of the difference between the present and the former inquiries that had taken place. The inquiries hitherto made had only been to elicit the operations of the machinery, but there was no power of going into the merits of the inventions, or of the in gredients with which those instruments were prepared. Now, for' the first time, Captain Warner proposed to state what was the nature and composition of these in ventions. The tribunal was, however, objectionable. Had there ever occurred a single instance in that coun try in which the inquiry before a Select Committee had not become public? Every member of their Lordships' House had a right to go into that Committee, and put questions to the witnesses, and do anything but vote. Could a secret laid before a Committee of that nature be reserved, or was it net likely that it would soon become known to the whole world?—(Hear, hear.) If once known in England, it would eoon be known in France, and would be of as much advantage to their enemies as to themselves. He thought a case had been made out for inquiry, but agreed with the Noble Earl that it should be one before a limited number of scientific persons, and not before a Select Committee. But if there was no alternative between no inquiry and one before that House, then he thought it should be limited to three or five scientific Peers, and that it ought bo to all intents and purposes a Secret Committee. The Earl of WID'►CHILSEA objected"to the appoint ment o 7 any Committee of Inquiry, believing the whole affair to be a perfect bumbug.—(A. laugh.) He thought the object of most of these projectors and inventors was to extract a certain sum of money from the country. The Noble Earl (Talbot) thought that it was a very great and important discovery, but the simplest manner of testing it would bo to let Captain Warner commu nicate with the officers appointed by the Ordnance, who were the best judges of these matters. He thought it an extremely ' inconvenient precedent that those matters should be brought under the consideration of a Com mittee of their Lordehips' House. The Earl of ALBEMARLE did not think the con- duct of Captain Warner such as to entitle him to any great consideration from a British Legislature. His Noble Friend behind him was under a mistake in sup posing that these great inventions mad experiments wore to be confined to this country. When he (the Earl of Albemarle) was private secretary to Lord John •Russell, the matter came before him, and they had a signifi cant hint from Captain Warner that if his demands were not satisfied, his secret might fall into the hands of those who were the enemies of the country; and in a pamphlet published by him he found this pas sage:—" I now consider myself a free agent, with full liberty to go where I please with my inventions, and sell them to any foreign nation I may think proper." The Noble Earl said on the former occasion that the inven. lions would supersede the Militia Bill. If that were so, ha would say let him, sell them to the enemy; provided he used them at the time of an invasion, he was satis fied they would be like the elephants at the battle of Hydaspes, and prove more terrible to friends than to foes.—(hear.) The Earl of FOSSE did not think the matter was one for a Committee of Inquiry, and he wai not speeking co randora, because he wa3 perfectly familiar with all those devices, not for the purposes of war, but for the amusement of large numbers of people. There was nothing in those experiments that could not be done without the least difficulty; without any agent but I common gunpowder. He believed the Noble Earl had been in a great measure imposed upon, and that the Go vernment' officers were not satisfied with what had been done. He was constantly persecuted by projectors of all sorts, some of whom believed they had discoved the perpetual motion, and others bringing for ward teicatific inventions already known; but the only thing like novelty that was brought before him was by an Irish Itibbomnan.—(Great laughter.) It appeared thaw on various occasions the banks of the canals were being destroyed; a great deal of inconve nience and mischief was the result. Tho motive, of course, was to obtain employment in the repairs. At last oee man turned approver, and divulged the secret; but the stipendiary magistrate before whom the state ment was made did not altogether like to ace the experi ment tried. He had accordingly directed the man to perform the operation, and the charge was laid and the mine prepared, but there was no fuze—that was the peculiarity; but it was supplied by a mixture of quick lime, oatmeal, and nitric acid, and in about four or four and-a-half hours after that mixture was applied the mine exploded. Upon asking the man where he got his in formation, ho had succeeded in tracing it to France. The only reward the man had obtained was a free passage to Americeu.--(Great laughter, which lasted for some minutes.) Knowing that the question had been already investigated—knoeitig that it had been fully inquired into, he should feel himself constrained to vote for the postponement of the Committee. Earl TALBOT said all he asked was a full, fair, and impartial inquiry, and he did not care before whom. If their Lordentpe thought it advisable to postpone the Committee he should assent to it; but at the same time he would reserve to himself the option of naming the Committee at a future time; or ho would make this pro position. that the same officers should be again appointed by the Government to look into the whole of the matter. —(fleer, hear.) He would leave the case entirely in the hands of their Lordships. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE suggested that it belonged to the Crown, and not to their Lordships, to pronounce upon what changes should be effected in the British armaments. Tao. -ran of. DERBY said the Government was anxious to do justice to Mr. Warner and everybody else. Neither he nor any member of the Govern ment bed pronounced any opinion upon the merits' of the iuveation. Air : iagltiry was . asked for before SATURDAY EVENING, MAY 22, 1852. a Committee of their Lordships, and he did not coincide with the Noble Enrl opposite in thinking that there had been any blunder committed in acced ing to that proposition, nor did he coincide with the Noble Earl (Winchilsezt) that the inventions were a great humbug. The motion now made was that cer tain papers be laid on the table. The Noble Earl had acceded to the postponement of the Committee, reserv ing to himself the right of making the motion again after the production of the papers. Upon that as surance their Lordships would, he supposed, rest satisfied that the Committee would not be appointed without their being fully acquainted with the matter, so that there would be ample time to consider whether it should be appointed or not. The Duke of WELLINGTON said no doubt the Master-General of the Ordnance would cause such in vestigation to be made as the Government might direct. That was the proper channel for the inquiry, and he had no doubt it would be made by the Master-General in such a manner as would prove satisfactory. 1 Tho motion was then agreed to. MAYNOOTH. The Marquis of BREADALBANE having risen to present some petitions on the subject of the grant to Maynooth, Earl FITZWILLIAM suggested that the matter should be postponed till Monday. The Duke of ARGYLL protested against the rule being that the House should adjourn at seven o'clock. The Earl of DERBY said it would be convenient if some rule was laid down that the eemeP4ttestion should not be asked more than once.—(A laugh.) The Duke of ARGYLL was not anxious that the question should be put at all. If it was, the onlyiniswer that could be given was the one that had been given be fore, that the Government had no intention at present of making a change in the grant to Maynooth. No Go vernment could say more. Circumstances might arise in process of time to compel the Government to review the question, but at present they had no intention to do so. As regarded the debate, ho should be as happy to get away as any of their Lordships. The Marquis of BREADALBANE said he had a great number of; petitions to present from Scotland on the question of the grant to the College of Maynooth. These petitions emanated, in a great measure, from the members of the Free Church, and others from various places in Scotland. It was upon the grounds alleged by the petitioners that he had resisted the Bill, when it was brought in by the late Sir Robert Peel, to augment and to place that grant upon a permanent basis. The objections he had then felt had been since confirmed and strengthened. It appeared to bim that the grounds upon which it had been made had totally failed, and that no good had resulted from it. On the contrary, it had greatly dissatisfied all classes of their Protestant fellow-subjects, while it had produced f . ito feelings of conciliation. He trusted he might entertain those opinions without entertaining the least hostility or ill-will towards his Roman Catholic fellow subjects ; and he trusted that in. considering those serious objections, those feelings were not in any way compromised. He could not conceal from himself that the most serious question had been neglected, and that if they came to the resolution that that grant should be withdrawn, the policy of continuing grants to other re ligious establishments must be considered. That was the course they must pursue in accordance with justice and sound policy. It appeared to him that it was not at all the province of the State to interfere with the religious opinions of the people, and that they ought never on that account to make any distinctions with regard to civil rights, provided that in that religion there was no prin ciple hostile to civil liberty or sound government. But considering those principles he thought they ought gra dually and judiciously to withdraw all grants given by the State to those various religious bodies—that they ought to endeavour to maintain and strengthen the re- Baton of the State by correcting abuses and enforcing its efficiency, and, above all, by rendering its ministers effi cient teachers of pure Christian faith. That fully applied to the Established Church in Ireland, which was overgrown and out of measure with the Pro testant population of the country. These were ques tions involved in the consideration of the withdrawal of the grant to Maynootb. Viewing it in that light, as a question forced upon them, seeing that there was a great anxiety on the part of the Protestants of that country— seeing that its Protestant principles were compromised by the g rant to Maynooth, he would appeal to the Noble Earl at the head of the Government to give a declara tion of his opinion and of the policy he deemed it right the Government ought to pursue in that great, difficult, and delicate question—(Elear, hear)—in order to give some satisfaction and to remove the doubts which still existed in the minds of many as to the intentions of the Government; for although the question had been pre viously asked, and a discussion had taken place on the subject, and although it had been discussed in another place, still he must say that some doubt and un certainty prevailed in the public mind, which was most prejudicial to the public interests of the country, and most inconsistent with the representative system which in that country had been established. It appeared to him, that whoever undertook the responsibility of a Government, and was placed at its head, should have his principles ready for their applica tion upon all the great questions which agitated the public mind, and that he should have a decided course of policy marked out as that which ho should pursue. Without that qualification he maintained that there could bo no real government of the country, but it would be left to this or to that wind, and it would be impossible to know how to steer the vessel of the State. It was only consistent with their representative system that there should be no concealment of the policy of the Government. Having made these remarks without any feeling of hostility to the Government, he hoped the Noble Earl at its head would explain to the country the principles which he meant to apply and the policy he intended to pursue with regard to the grant and the Acts at present regulating the College for Ro man Catholic priests at Maynooth. The. Earl of DERBY would find no difficulty in an swering the question of the Noble Marquis, because the present was the third time, and he hoped it might be the last, in which he had answered the same question. hear, and laughter.) What he had stated was, that her Majesty's Government had no present intention of making any alteration or proposing any repeal of the existing law by whielethe endowment of the College of Maynooth was authorised. He did not consider that upon that which appeared to be the views of the Noble Marquis himself and those of many persons in Scotland there could be any difference of views or questions of policy for that Government to grant an en dowment to persons of a different religious persuasion from themselves. He did not sympathise with, or adopt, the views of the Noble Marquis and the petitioners, be cause he considered the question of the endowment of the College of Maynooth purely a question of policy, and, as a question of policy, the Government was free to act as the circumstances of the time might justify, with out reference to any specific principle of right or wrong, but merely acting for the public welfare, for the main tenance of the public peace and the well-being of the country in general, and considering merely what was politic and wise. The Government must be left at full liberty to act with regard to the College of Maynooth upon these principles, and ho repeated there was, on the part of her Majesty's Government, no present intention of interfering with the grant. Lord BEAUMONT could not reconcile the answer of the Noble Earl opposite with the course of proceeding which had been adopted in the other House of Parlia ment, and with the sanction of her Majesty's Govern ment. The Noble Esrl expressed his intention of not interfering with the grant to the College of Maynooth, which he said he considered to be a question of policy. How could that statement be reconciled with the consent given by her Majesty's Ministers in another place to commence an investigation —not into a question of mere policy, but into a question of principles and practices? If the Noble Earl intended to make no alteration in the grant, and had made up his mind on the point, how could the Government consent to the formation of a Committee which was to rake up the whole subject, particularly when they were resolved that, whatever the report of that Committee, they were determined to make no alteration in the present condition of the college? He (Lord Beaumont) agreed with the Noble Earl (Derby) that it was a question of policy. .He begged also to remind the Noble Earl of his words on a former occasion, when the additional grant was under debate, and when the Noble Earl, in supporting it, said, " Such a course was required by the policy of this country, and it did not matter whether the party on whom the boon was to be conferred accepted it with gratitude or ingratitude. The policy of this country Was straightforward; and it being right to make the grant. they would do so without look ing to the results.”--(Hear, hear.) The object of the grant in his (Lord Beaumont's) opinion was to give edu cation to persons who intended to become Roman Ca tholic priests. It happened that in Ireland a large por tion of the population was Roman Catholic, arid as long as that was the case one of the necessary requisites was a certain number of Roman Catholic priests. Now the population should either pay for the education out of their own pockets of those persohs whom they intended should fill the office of priest, or else the Government should pay for them. Government, wisely, on a prin ciple of policy, undertook to relieve the m from the bur den; and having undertaken that burden, ho (Lord Beaumont) maintained that Government had nothing further to do with the college than ,to see that it carried out the principles for which the grant was made. lie maintained that the College of Maynooth had strictly fulfilled these purposes; that it had educated persons for the Roman Catholic priesthood, and for no thing else. It confined its education to that object; and, in other words, it minutely fulfilled all the objects of the grant. Now, there were visitors oppointed to the col lege, wh o con fi ned their reports t o a number o f s i mple questions, and did not go further into the result or m i • tare of the s y stem o f teac hi ng . They merely put ques tions as to w h et h er certa i n c onditions w ere compl i ed with, and hi t h erto t h e answers t o those q uest i ons showed that they h a d ,b een co mplied with. Governm en t, t h en, having that information, it was not its business to far ther investigate the results of these books and doctrines on the minds of the scholars. All that was done at Maynooth was merely what was done at any other col lege where persons were educated for the Roman Ca tholic priesthood ; and therefore further investi gation was, in his opinion, not alone uncalled tor, but also dangerous and improp e r. Yet it wag to a motion o f thi s na t ure th at h er M a j est y's Govern ment heti, in the other House of Parliament, ht sented. He could well imegine a motion broug ht as to for ward on the broad and intelligible question as be whether it was right or wrong that the gran case, so long allowed by this country. That would bh.au legitimate subject of Inquiry. But as long as her hi Go vernment maintained that it was right and proper that con the grant should be continued, So long as that was the to resist unnecessary in vestigations on the subject.—Gear .) , What benefit was it their duty Could result from the investigation The Committee might examine witnesses and ;receive evidence that class-books were read which contained not the most, delicate morality, and which allowed a wide scope to conscience in matters of loyalty and feeling to this country. But alter all, the answer woull be that such was part and parcel of the education of all Roman Ca tholic priests. filer Majesty's Ministers consented, when they made the grant, to the continuance of these books as class-books. The question, therefore, resolved itself into this, that Ministers were now pledged to the very system of education which prevailed at Maynooth, (Hear.) Because, when they made the grant they did so with their eyes open; and the course of study was now the same as previously.—(Hear, hear.) Such being the case, to come forward now with an investigation ap peared to him—he did not mean it offensively—like sneaking out of the question for the purpose of avoiding it. If there was a feeling on the question at all, it was as regarded the grant. That was the question that agi tated the country, and which, therefore, should be consi dered. Half measures would never succeed. As every constitutional matter in this country was a thing of com promise, so also should the question of the endowment of Maynooth College be considered as a question of com promise. Therefore, the Noble Earl opposite in saying it was not his intention to alter his policy towards Maynooth, and permitting the appointment of a Committee to inves tigate the course of education in that college at the same time, was doing one thing in that House and undoing it ain the other. It was decidedly a course of compromise, and compromise of that description was very unworthy 'and unbecoming. The Earl of DERBY should rep ea t liiirdeclaration :thatit was not the intention of. her Majesty Govern -went at present to alter or interfere with the grant. `However, he did not wish to be understood as saying that, whatever might be the result of inquiry, the Go vernment would not effect change or alteration. He did not state that, whatever the result of inquiry as to the system of education practised at Maynooth, or the ap iplication of the funds granted by Parliament for the sup -port of that system—he did not say that such disclosures 'would not alter the policy of her Majesty's Government with regard to the grant.—(Hear, hear.) Neither could he (the Earl of Derby) adopt the expression of the Noble Baron opposite, that if, in the education of Roman Catholie priests, doctrines were inculcated subversive of loyalty or inconsistent with morality, it was not a matter for the Crown or Parliament to interfere with.—(Hear, hear.) He (the Earl of Derby) admitted that in these points the Noble Baron opposite (Lord Beaumont) was better informed than himself; and, therefore, if he should find that the Noble Baron had given a more correct re presentation of these matters than he (the Earl of Derby) was heretofore disposed to entertain, he should say it would have a very material effect in altering his views with regard to the policy and the principles of the grant in question.—(Hear, hear.) Lord BEAUMONT explained. He never asserted that the doctrines taught at Maynooth were subversive of loyalty or morality. He said there were class•books from which passages might be extracted not favourable to loyalty or morality. But then these passages should be read with others that followed them. Surely in the Protestant Church. the: persons educated for the clergy did not confine their reading to one side of the question. The Bishop of OXFORD should say there were no books read by the clergy of the Church of England having a tendency to subvert loyalty or destroy mora lity.—(Bear, hear.) The Earl of WINCHILSEA said that petitions signed by some 1,500,000 persons against the Maynooth grant had been adopted by tho people of this country; and therefore it was absolutely necessary that an inves tigation into the system of education should take place. So convinced was ho (the Earl of Winchilsea) of the nature of the doctrines inculcated at that college that he would not hesitate to place on the Committee of in quiry members of the Church of Rome. He was in a position to satisfy their Lordships that if this inquiry were gone into, Maynooth would be found to be the Jesuitical college in Europe. Every principle of loyalty and morality was subverted there; and to its teaching relight be attributed the wretched condition of the people f Ireland. Th e r e s h or tly wou ld o cc ur an opportunity . o for the people of this country to speak out; and, if he was not much mistaken the Protestant feeling of this great and mighty empire, the bulwark of civil and reli gious liberty, could be expressed in a manner and with a vigour that no man could misunderstand. If the present Parliament should refuse inquiry, he was pre pared to say that the next Parliament would go further, and demand something more than inquiry.—(Hear.) Earl FITZ WILLIAM deprecated the course taken by his Noble Friend (the Marquis of Breadalbane), which, he thought, would bo productive only'of ill-feeling. His object in rising was to express the satisfaction he felt at the answer of the Noble Earl the First Minister of the Crown to the question put to him in reference to this grant. Notwithstanding what had been said about the course which the next Parliament would pursue in re ference to this grant, ho hoped the opinions of the Noble Earl (Earl of Darby) would remain unchanged. Ho (the Earl of Fitzwilliam) had ao fear of the people being converted by Rowish priests; but ho had fears that the Protestant aristocracy would be converted by Romanising clergy of the Protestant Church. The Earl of DERBY observed that there was no question before the House, inasmuch as the question put had been answered by him.—(Cries of "The petitions.") The Earl of WICKLOW was perfectly satisfied with 'the answer which the Noble Earl at the head of the Go vernment bad given on this as well as on two previous occasions. —(Bear, hear.) No Minister could be ex pected to say. more than that he had no present inten tion of doing a thing.—(Hear.) It was obviously im possible to foresee what circumstances might occur, and it would be imprudent and unwise to give any pledge for the future. It was certain, however, that other per sons connected with the Noble Earl did not speak as plainly as he did, and one of hie colleagues had consented to a motion which, from the confession of its author, was directed against the existence of the institution. It pained him to make this observation, because he wished wall to the Noble Earl's Government, and desired to see it well placed in the country. The equivocal conduct to which he adverted gave rise to an opinion that the Go vernment was desirous of availing itself of the popular clamour existing on the subject of Maynooth for the purpose of influencing the elections about to take place.—(Hear.) The conduct of the Government in the other House in assenting to the proposed inquiry was very suspicious. That at present a strong feeling pre vailed against Roman Catholics in Great Britain, and particularly in the northern part of the island, was, un fortunately, too true, and it was attributable to Lord J. Russell's letter to the Bishop of Durham, and to the Act of Parliament founded on it. The author of that letter and the Government which proposed that Act of Parliament were responsible for the present state of affairs.—(Hear , h ear.) No one could dispute th e r i g h t of the Legislature t o inquire into the state of education at the college, but there was a moral obligation o n Par liament not to lay a finger on the grant. I t s h ou l d be remem b e red that Ireland was a Catholic country, con tributing her fair proportion to the revenue, and, there being an endowe d church for a minority of the peopl e , it was the duty of the Legislature to provide the means for educating the priests of the majority. Earl GREY c oncurred in the opinion expressed by the Noble Earl who spoke last, that an Administration was not called upon to speak for more than its present intentions, and should decline to pledge itself as to the conduct it would pursue in circumstances not yet arisen; and if he understood the answer given by th e Noble Earl at the head of the Government that evening in the same sense as that in which it was received by other Noble Lords, be would be as satisfied with it as they ap peared to be. Unfortunatel y , how ever, he did not un derstand the Noble Earl to say that no change of cir cumstances had yet taken place which could induce him to abandon the opinions which he expressed on this sub ject in 1845, when a Member of Sir R. Peel's Government. When, on a former evening, he asked the Noble Ea r 1 r whether he adhe red to the o pinions expressed by him in 1845, the Nob le Earl denied his right to put that question Th e n, again, the Noble Earl to him. was particularly ca reful in having his words correctly qu o t e d, and drew hairbreadth distinctions between the phrases having no intention to do a thing at presenj These ," and a b a ying no present intention to d o t h e thina circums tances caused doubt as to the rea l i nt . the Governme nt, and the feeling of uncertainty was entionsof in creased when it was found that pe rsons holding offi the greatest importance connected with the ces of Administra tion made election speeches and issued placards they distinctly pledged themsel ves t o vote for , in thewhich repe a l of the Maynooth grant. All these circumstances created a suspicion as to the inte n ti ons o f the Government, e w hich it behoved the N o bl e Earl, for h. e own honour and for the credit of tho representative of l principle of Go vernment and the Constitutionthe country, to remove. A man o f t h e high honour and feeling which should a c t ua t e a British statesman'would not consent to shelter his real intentions under equivocatiea and subterfuge. When they were told that sue Roman Catholic religion was so false, and that its priests were se disloyal, what must the conclusion be, but that one-third o f her Majesty's subjects could never hope to be placed uon an equality w i t h the rest of the comusunity, in which case they must necessa rily be disaffected? Would it not then appear to the Roman Catholics to be their dut toendow menty prevent any of the Protestant Church, and thus there would bo an end to religious peace in that country? What would be the effect upon the Church establishment in Ireland? He had had intrusted to him a petition from an English town, not only against the grant to Maynooth, but pray ing that all religious grants in Ireland should be put an end to. This was the necessary conclusion to which Parliament would be led if the grant to Maynooth were to be withdrawn. For himself, ho thought that every Christian church taught doctrines the greater part of which were true and beneficial to the people, and h e wished that each sect might continue to receive the s ame grants as hitherto. He was disappointed not tr, 'Jaye heard from the Noble Earl (Derby) a more distinct de claration on the part of the Government whether they t on. hered or not to the policy of which the chief Member of Administration was the principal the present advocate in 1845. The Duke of ARGYLL held that Parliament had perfect right to inquire into the system education pur sued f d • on pur sued in the College of Maynooth, and the consequences which had arisen from its endowment. In 1845 Lord J. Russell, cn the second reading of the Maynooth Bill, dis tinctly asserted that, if it should be f Ro man Catholic clergy were teachers found that the h of rebellion, no valid compact could be pleadeta w made, and why th e greet isho ullinquiry should not be not be withdrawn. But the grounds up on which thisgrant was opposed were of a religious character, and if Parliament adopted this principle it would not stop at Maynooth. They could not withdraw this grant without withdrawing all other grants to religious b odies. lie objected to the tone in which this question had been discussed, and the circum stances under which it had been brought forward. If the grant wore now to be voted to Maynooth for the first time, he would on no account support it, but ho ss.w great danger to the peace of the empire in laying down principles in regard to one sect which did not apply to the other religious sects of the empire. The Aleaquis of CLANRICARDE said it appeared from the last report of the visitors of the College of Mayneoth that to change what , 2 , ver had of late taken place in the system of education in that establishment ; trod there could therefore be no ground for the proposed inquiry. But if the Government had thought that such an inquiry ought to be instituted they ought to have taken up the matter themselves, and not to have left it in the hands of an independent Member of Parliament. But they were bound, at all events, to come forward and distinctly announce their intentions upon the subject. The petitions were then ordered to lie on the table, and the subject dropped. IN E BILL. On the motion of Lord COLCHESTER, this Bill passed through Committee. HIGHWAY RATES BILL, As did also this Bill. INIPROVEMENT OF THE JURISDICTION OF EQUITY BILL. The LORD CHANCELLOR moved the second read ing of this Bill pro forma, with a view to referring it to th e Select Committee of the Masters' Abolition Bill. Lord CRANWORTII foresaw difficulty in proceed ing, in consequence of the limited time awarded for sug gestions and amendments. The LORD CHANCELLOR said that the two Bills were the result of the labours of the Commission ap pointed by the Crown, who had bestowed every possible consideration upon the subject. The law Lords, ho thought, would be able to deal with any difficulties which might arise; but if the Masters' Abolition Bill were to pass without this, ho feared the judges would find it very difficult to carry out the due administration of justice. The Bill was then read a second time, and referred in the manner proposed. ECCLESIASTICAL JURISDICTION BILL. PROTESTANT DISSENTERS BILL. These Bills were severally read a third time and passed, and their Lordships adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, May 21. The SPEAKEIt took the Chair at Four o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The following Bills were read a third time and passed: Liskeard Roads. Great Western, Shrewsbury, and Birmingham, Shrews bury and Chester, Shrewsbury and Hereford, Birken head, Lancashire, and Cheshire Junction, and Here ford, Ross, and Gloucester Railway Companies. North British Flax Company (Claussen's Patent). Rotherham and Pleasley Road. Tho Stockton and Hartlepool and Clarence Railway, and Hartlepool West Harbour and Dock Companies Bill, was considered and agreed to. The Thames Embankment Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed. LONDON NECROPOLIS AND NATIONAL MAUSOLEUM BILL. On the motion for the third reading of this Bill, Lord EBRINGTON objected to the chimes giving compensation to the clergy, and declared that the mea sure was altogether superfluous. It proposed to create a cemetery of 2,000 Here; while the opinion of all the authorities on this subject, including that of Mr. G. A. Walker, the able and meritorious pioneer in this question, concurred in stating that a cemetery of between 400 and 500 aceee would be found amply sufficient for the real wants of the metropolis.—(Hear.) Such an acreage of cemetery already existed, and he therefore contended that as this measure was defective in many respects there was no necessity whatever for passing it.—(Hear.) This, however, was far too important a matter to be dis posed of in a private Bill, and he insisted if the wants of the public required further legislation, it ought to be undertaken by the Executive Government. The Noble Lord concluded by moving, as an amend ment, that the third reading of the London Necropolis and National Mausoleum Bill be postponed till the Bill introduced by the Government on Metropolitan Inter ments has been printed and in the hands of Members. Sir JAMES DUKE seconded the amendment. Mr. BAINES said, as the Chairman of the Committee who had passed this Bill, ho was bound to resist the amendment,--,(Hear, hear.) The Committee found that a dangerous and scandalous state of things prevailed in the metropolis, in reference to the burial of the dead, and after a diligent and careful investigation, extending over a period of many days, they came to the conolusion that this Bill would remedy to some extent the existing evil.—(Hear, hear.) Lord JOHN MANNERS also concurred in believing that the Bill, though introduced as a private measure, would be found to present a practical, if not an entire, remedy to the disgraceful state of things that existed in London.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said the condition of the metro politan burial-grounds was most abominable. Only the other day, tor instance, a gentleman who had buried a nephew in the churchyard of St. Clement Danes, discovered a short time afterwards, that the body and coffin had been disposed of to make room for others.— (Hear, hear.) Nuw this Bill would go far to rid the metropolis of such disgraceful proceedings, and he should certainty give it his decided support.—(Hear, hear.) Lord SEYMOUR supported the Bill, as did also Mr. G oulbarn and Sir De Lacy Evane. Mr. DRUMMOND opposed the second reading of the Bill, but his objections had since been removed, and he should vote for the third reading.—(Hear, hear.) The amendment was then negatived without a divi sion, and the Bill was read a third time and passed. PETITIONS. Mr. BROTHERTON presented three petitions from Salford against the Militia Bill. Sir JOSHUA WALMSLEY presented similar peti tions from various parts of Lancashire. Mr. JOHN ELLIS presented a petition from Loi. tester against church rates. Mr. GEORGE THOMPSON presented a petition from a place in Ireland, praying that Peers interfering in elections should be mada liable to transportation.—(A laugh.) Mr. JJRUMMOND presented a petition from a place in Kent, praying for repeal of the malt tax. Sir WILLIAM CLAY presented a petition from a religious society called " The Victoria Park Fishermen," praying the House to take stops to assist them in preaching the Gospel on Sundays in Victoria Park. Mr. REYNOLDS presented a petition against the Charitable Trusts Bill. CLERKS OF THE PEACE. M. FRESHFIELD wished to ask her Majesty's At torney-General whether it was intended to propose com pensation to the clerks of the peace in Middlesex and Surrey, and to the clerk of arraigns at the Central Criminal Court in London, and to the criers of the courts of sessions in Middlesex and Surrey, and Cen tral Criminal Court in London, for the loss of fees which will be sustained by them in consequanco of the passing of the Grand Juries (Metropolitan District) Bill. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said this was a question, the solution of which necessarily de volved upon him, but ho should not be able to give an answer until Monday. EMIGRATION' I• - ' ' ' 4 Mr. F. SCULLY wished to ask the Secretary for the Colonies, whether it was the intention cf her Majesty's Government to apply any portion of the large funds reecetly received from Australia in aid of emigration from Ireland to that colony; and if so, whether any part of those funds would be applied in assisting emigration of well-conducted youth from the Irish workhouses? Sir J. PAKINGTON sail the best answer ho could make to the first part of the question was to state that the practice of the Emigratioa Commissioners had been to send out from each part of the United kingdom a number of emigrants proportionate to the population, and Ireland was now in advance of England and Scotland to the extent of 6,000. The Commissioners had, however, determined not to check the emigration from Ireland until the proportion had been equalized; but at this moment an agent was engaged in Ireland in recommending families to the Commissioners.—(Hear , bear.) 'With regard to the latter part of the question, it had been found inexpedient to send out young un married men, and it might happen that those ver y youths would be found more useful at home.—(Hear.) THE NEWSPAPER, STAMP. Mr. SCHOLEFIELD wished to ask the Attorney- General what steps bad been taken to try the question raised by the Board of Inland Revenue, as to the right to publish monthly papers at other periods than " the first day of every calendar month, or within two days before or after that day, according to the terms of the Act 60 George 111., c. 9? The ATTORNEY-GENERAL explained that under the provisions of the Act papers published at iatervals of more than 26 days were not liable to the stemp-duty but in order to prevent the practi tti c oo e ws o p f a p p u er b , lis t h h t e . n Ag :a t . paper beyond that interval, and then changing the title to make it serve the purpose of a rendered the publisher liable a penalty of 204 if he did not issue a the specified, was liable tohe eerniied(- paper on cer tt tain specific days. The Stoke-upon-Trent p a p er a bove-mentioned p ena l ty of 20/ ; wpuabslislh'oetd liable e manner t3 itt but as bthuetrenhoatd been; been no evasion of the l aw , and the revenue • had not suffered, it was not his intention to prosecute. In the case of the Dunfermline coodings would o be taken News, the revenue had suffered, anti pro- Mr. GEORGE THUMB' p ;gs 0E against EN , the proprietor. pohtgarnouvndo of State for the Home r w iN ish G e S d . cretary Departmentto a ask thespecify Se 13onner's-fields, the grounds w h hi d ch the Commissioners of the Metro- Be a thn p a r i. oh r i e b e i n ted on op th e e n Mr. IVALPOLE said g ' . y.' the meetings to which the Hone , Gentlemenopen-air r bba ni th ee -d ti a ngs in referred had iven great offence to the neigh- 1 betide) d • 0 . inasmuch as the subjects discussed at them were, of a blasphemous, profane, and immoral character. Re peated complaints had boon made to the Commissioners of Works, and in deference to those complaints the meetings had been forbidden and the police in structed not to proceed summarily, but to dis parse the reeeting.—(Cries of " Hoar, hear.") It would be remembered that some years ago meetings of a simiar nature ware prohibited in the Green Park.—(Hear.) Sir WILLIAM CLAY wished to know whether meetings of the Wesleyans or other religious bodies would he permitted? Mr. WALPOLE said that all meetings would be con sidered equally objectiona ble. — (Hear, hear.) CORRUPT 1111ACTICES AT ELECTIONS DILL. Colonel SIBTHORP wished to ask the Note° Lord the Member forahe City of Loudon, on what day he intended t h e third reading of the Corrup t 1. ,• to move Practices at Elections Bill ? Sir CHARLES WOOD said his Noble Friend was not in his place, but he hod been given to dun erstand that the fill would come on the first thine THE ST. LAWRENCE ° on Monday. Mr. FLUME wished to ask whether• objection to lay before Parliament there would he any , s pondence between the B ri • copies of th e corre ttsh Government, the Go vernment of the United States Canada respectively, res rg the opening o f t h e navi gation of tiao River St. p Laeof vreuse? tem The CHANCELLOR the EXCHEQUER said that the correspondence between the Government and the co- bony had concluded, and that between the Government end the United States was still ;going on. but it was con ducted in a setisfeettore and friendly spirit, and the Go vernment augured the best results fro m it.—(Helr-) EXPLOSIONS IN MINES. Mr. HUME inquired whether Government intended to take steps to prevent the accidents which so con stantly occurred from explosions in mines? One bad recently occurred which destroyed forty individuals. Mr. WALPOLE said the subject was under °onside re tion, and he could give no opinion until the result o f the inquiry had been ascertained. DIT3LIN HOSPITALS. Mr. REYNOLDS wished to ask the Chancellor Of the Exchequer if he intended to persevere in reducing the annual grant to the Cork street Fever Hospital, and 1 0 other charitable hospitals in the city of Dublin? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER sai d there would be no seduction in the estimate this Yea r ' but he thought that the whole subject required further consideration.—(flear.) LOSS OF THE BIRKENHEAD. Mr. REYNOLDS wished to ask the Secretary to the Admiralty, whether the watertight bulkheads were moved from the steam-ship Birkenhead before she sailed with troops for the Cepe of Good Hope? Mr. STAFFFORD replied in the 'negative. vessel was in every respeceperfect —(Haar, hear.) FOREIGN INFLUENCES IN SPAIN. , e On the motion that th e H ouse ' at i ts r i s i ng tid,j oll '' until Monday next, Viscount PALMERSTON rose to call the attenti °° of the Government to reports whi c h h ave l at el y c i r culate d in Europe. as to the exertion of foreign influences with, view to effect ch anges i n t h e const i tution o f Sp: Prefacing his remarks by the expression of his .„,fir, opinion that a constitutional G overnment — m eaning thereby a Mon a r c hy t em p ere d b y t h e act i on o f a 11 ' ,T3' ; liament—Wa3 the wisest and safest mode of governmethe which the wisdom of man had ever devised —th „ most calculated to secure the peace and prosper of a neetion—the Noble Lord proceeded to areal that the preservation of sun . a Governite!°„ was a matter of great importance not only to the neve l ', itself, but also to the neighbouring countries who fitig" . be affected by a chang e . Former] y constitutional verntnent was th e exception in Europe, and d (34 )00 0 the rule; but n ow t h e cases were changed. Ateiong;tbel countries at present in the enjoyment of c onstitutlea s government the most remarkable were Portu gal, Spain, Sardinia, Greece,- Denmark, an d Beleiti lP i (The Noble Lord afterw ar d s added Prussia.)Al! O thcao countries had attained their form of g overness r y : at a very recent period, so me o f t h em through their°/( efforts, and the others by the di rec t i nterference of ,- reign nation=. Among the most important of the coon; tries who were without constitutional government " er a Austria, Russia, the dominions of the Sultan . a ° the Pope, and he believed he might add. Tusesq; He did not include Naples in this list, because, thong; the constitution was not acted on, it had not yet beef formally suppressed. The English Government had toi a great share in establishing in P o rtugal and Spain th at form of constitutional government which had so T s, neficially influenced the condition of the Peninsli .The maxim in physics, that action and re-action ba equal forces, was true in politics, a s m ight be se es se now demonstrated in the reaction which w ee now gehiee, on in Europe from the events of 1848. I n no eetill ir l t3 , was this more apparent than in Sardinia and SP! og The constitution of Sardinia w a s a t p r e se nt Wor ig j oe most satisfactorily, although it mi g ht b e sa id that fere; , influence could be traced. How ever . th a t might :ea he hoped that at no time would the Sart:Wl ljg Government apply in vain to the Go v e rnme nt of country for advice and assistance. The same real e , was applied to Spain, and it was s a id th a t foreign finances were at work the r e t o b r i n g chow', bt change in the form •of government. He In i , g ely be met with the remark that no nation . :h more intolerant of forei g n i n t er f erence t h an th e SPA nation. But, however true that might be of France s ip Germany, it was a fact that no Governmen t „ - a Europe had of late years been more subjected 10 !i s - , directed by foreign influence than that of SP fe . and he thought tient if it were shown the; „"la reign interference was at work for ill, it w ° , ice not be too much to ask that foreign infide should also be used to correct that evil interforeneei There was an idea abroad, erroneous as he believE ; that with every change of Ministry hero there • vi il9 i complete change in the principles of the fortsien„P', - be of this country. Nothing was mere incorrect, z 'i l t great outlines of the foreign policy were, he Vats say, stereotyp e d, an d were never dev i ate d from' fo e reign atatesman might have tho directi o n of the '," O reign affair s o f t hi s country. B e li ev i ng th a t til e g might be some storm hovering over Spain, and Itnew; .r` o as he did the great influence exercised abroad by b ed consciousness that the Government always looke d with a favourable eye to the • establishnle; of constitutional government, ha had endeavoured ~1 0 elicit from her Majesty's Ministers some declaration u,„ that subject feeling that no greater support could ti u, given to the cause of constitutional government thea . ,4 a declaration in that place from some memberseef "" Administration of their desire to uphold it,—(Hear.) d The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, sa i i e he had listened to the speech of the Noble Lord l' r e that attention which the importance of the tubl e ; and the respect due to the charact er and ebd e l e ip of the Noble Lord dem a nd e d ; but he could net " contrasting; the Noble Lord's observations wit h ha s notice he had p u t on t h e paper. He found t h e re t to oes the Noble Lord was to call the attention of the vernment to rumours l a t e l y c i rcu l ated as to foreig iesa s terference in Spain, dir ec t e d t o t h e o bj ect of mal"ht'st change in the present f o r m o f const i tut i ona l gov eratne ed in that country, but the Noble Lord had not fer° h e r ie e the House with any details of th e rumours to he had alluded, or informed them what the foreign powers to whose influence e , interference he had alluded. It was qu ite eowl i to tent for the Noble Lord or any other Hon. Metelser, elicit from the Government any general d e elaratl°:, of opinion upon subjects of this nature, bat, a general rule, he should have thought that it was e ' , 0 tremely inconvenient for a Minister to b e c alled on rise in his place and express to Parliament his detera 3 u ' t nation on any particular course of action with . , o ie , some reason being given for the a pp ea l• so res' a d There certainly might be rumo urs of the nature to, but at present no one could point to InY 7 1 . e facts of such a nature as wou ld lead al, one to express a decided opi n i on that Po we to , of importance were co m bi n i ng f or the '1 3 ., pose of effecting a revolution in, the government of SC: a . . l , Whatever, therefore, he might say upon this t , b ject was, that no misconception might ' J o e, as to the feeling of the Government on the - ra s „ aese And here he might be permitt e d t o re l ate a c ircunl,s` the which occurred shortly aft er th e accession evince 4) present Ministry to office, which would eeet the feeling of the G overnment w i t h resr i T le to the constitution at pr esent ex i sting in SPBln. • d British Minister at Madrid was a Noble Lord prOnlo'e to that high office by th e f ormer Government' and,bile the time of the c h ange of Governmen t here • Noble Lord tho ug ht i t hi s d uty to offer his resignation. Considering, ho wever , t h e hi g h c h aracter o f that Nobl e his Sympathy his acquaintance constitutional cause in Spain, her Majesty's Ministers had thought it their duty to advis e withthe her Majesty not to accept that re si g nation . If it were e foreign interference we-e goeg on for the purpose of e ffectin g a chan ge in the constinv w the case, therefore, the i rnus w would be of regarded by th at Noble Ler", w ith a very jealous eye, and that h e wou ld nu' bo slow with that friendly counsel tlid „d e ice e e n bSepain, he was convi nce d t h at s ot; al w hich it would be his duty to g i ve for the pur pose interference t° n government o f averting such a resul t . Il e (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) did not undervalue the effects 01 the quadruple treaty, but he would venture to seY the part of the Government that if there were per' ;4l ,," who were att empt i ng to disturb that form of goverr : Rho merit which had now for some time existed in he hoped th a t t h o l e persons h were most interested the throne of Spai n would recollect the eircumstaile e4 under which th e p resent dynasty occupied the thro ne: The question would naturally arise, and would generally e be asked, wh y, if the ancient system which was subvert, in Spai n an d i n P ortugal was to be restored] should not Bo", the ancient dynasties then subverted be restored too' why not. they also return to the thrones which they ba it forfeited, if the system with which they write, identified was to b e b roug ht beck?—(Hear'')ti If he took a general vi ew of th e wor ki ng o f t h e ge net system in Spain, it appeared to him that it had been strictly a domestic system, and cond ucte d f or t h e beneu, of the subjects of her Spanish Majesty.—(Hear, hear' ) No attacks had been made upon the rights of the people; while in Sardinia they had a mode rn i ns t ance o f t h e sac' cess of the Parliamentary system which should lead theta to hope that our institutions were spreading on the 1 continent.—(Hear.) He trusted no discussion Would take place upon this subject. The blessings of peace this country depended upon leaving other nations t° conduct their own internal affairs is the manner w hich: they deemed best adapted to their own disposition, b es t calculated to serve their own interests.—(flear• ) ' The experience 'of 1848 should teach the m that extreme opinions were opposed to the ciplo of modern civilization, and the partie ° to whom the Noble L or d re f erred, no matter whether they were despotic monarchs or red itepub; b eans , might depend upun it, that if the st ruggle 01 1848 were revived, it wou ld Luke a long time i n deed I °' bring it to a termination.—(elear, hear.) Sir DE LACY EVANS said he knew that suffieiel tthheoseswpahnoithhouegohntstwitiut constitution o h n i , m c a d n x t i l o e u s trusted for ground existed in Spain to make the Noble Lord an d of the subject would increase the vigilance of he r, ' Majesty's Government, in watching the movements of fe:T; reign powere.—(Hear, hear.) 6 The subject then dropped. HOME-MADE SPIRITS. Mr. REYNOLDS said he had a motion on the pallor t h e this s a f n e t o Y t :e h for to-night, to the effect " that this House do resolve itself into a Committee, to take into consideration the present mode of levying the duty on home-made spirits in bond," and he should be glad to know if Governs netnt intended to oppose it, because if they did it was not his intention in the present state of public business persevere with it.—(Hear, hear.) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said be could certainly not recommend the H en . G ent l em an to make his motion at this advanced period of the se' sion—(A laugh)—but if the Honourable Geetlemen made up his mind to proceed with it, he should with great respect tell him what course Geyer =tent intended to pursue when the question come properly before tile House.—(A laugh.) The motion, that the House at its rising do adjourn till Monday, was then agr ee d to. MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS. A messenger from the Lords brought up the under . ' named Bills, to which their Lordships had egreed:- - An Act to remove doubts as to the constitution of th e bishopric of Christchurch, in Nevi Zealand, and So Til e