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Dirt Wirittton SUN OFFICE, Seven o'clock, (THIS DAY.) BANDON AND BAIt"fRY RAILWAY, ('ORK, At ACROOIL AN I) K I LLARNEY I;ftOUP Ix GRAND JUNCTION HARBOUR TERMINUS (Coutinw.d from our Afternoon Edition.) The CiIAIRMAN said, that before the witness for the Grand June. Con scheme were called, he wished to examine the Glasgow Ilar. hour-master, respecting the three Claes, as he understood he was it the roam. In crow-examination the witness athnitted that last year he had been one to a report decidedly objecting to rails being laid along the qulys, and also to coals being shipped at the same place with the general trade. Ile thought, however, that, the General Terminus was not liable to the objection contained in that report, as the latter referred to the crowded parts of the north side of the river. The evidence on behalf of the flrand Junction was then proceeded with. Mr. Binnie, laud surveyor and builder, was called, and briefly examined as to the value of the land. Ile set it down at about but 11,800/. of it would be available to be sold, and hence the real cost would be but 19,7001. This estimate included the land ter the depot, and also covered all damages done to property. No point of material importance was elicited by the cross-exami nation. Mr. Broome, contractor, next examined. He agreed with Mr. Binnie's estimate of land. Witness had valued the works and set them down at :32,8001., exclusive of rails, sleepers, or chains. Mr. J. M'Culloch, was called, and examined simply as to the cor rectitces of the previous evidence, which he corroborated. Mr. Gale, civil engineer, examined. He said the present line was elm of the best he could devise. It did not much interfere with the buildings in the neighbourhood, and these were buildings of an in ferior character. The gradients on the banks that approached the harbour, were 110 each respectively. The gradient at the connexion with the Pollock and Govan railway, was ene in 77; and that in connexion with the Barrhead and Neilston line, was one in 63, the other gradients were very easy. the sharpest curve on the forks was a radius of Ave chains, and o❑ the main line a radious of seven chains. These were not engineering difficulties in a mineral line. His estimate of cost was 61,6811., that would meet all expenses. In cross-examination witness said there would be no danger on such curves or gradients, as they would be worked slow. They might go safely at the rate of tan miles an hour. Horse power was proposed for portion along the quays. The Committee then adjourned at half-past four o'clock, till halt - - past twelve o'clock to-morrow. GROUP X 11. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition.) 40 , 7215G0'27, PAISLEY, HILDIA.RNOCIC, AND f-711, No. 111. (LAMPITS AND LESMA.HA GOV" BRANCHES). Mr. Hope and Sir Thomas Phillips were for the promoters ; Mr. A tistin and Mr. Gregg for the opponents. Sir T. PHILLIPS objected to Mr. Austin, as having no locus stand;, his line not being a competing oue. Mr. AL'iTIN replied, and the Committee decided that the lines should be heard together. Sir Thomas Phillips then described the course of the line front Kilmarnoch to Strathaven. The length was seventeen miles, nine miles of which was through a rich mineral country. The estimated cost was 230,0f:01., and by It a connexion would be formed between the eastern and southern districts of Scotland, and the important ports on tile west. Mr. John Hamilton, of Braehead, factor to his Grace the Duke of Portland, proved his Grace's assent to tt;e formation of this line, n filch was greatly calculated to develop the resources of the mineral century around Galston ant others of his Grace's manors. The count ry was a very rich agricultural one, and studded with populous vil lages, which would be greatly benefited by this line. For want of such accommodation, the goods from Galston, and other towns in Ayrshire, were obliged to be carted to Glasgow. Mr. Charles Brown, coach proprietor, Kilmarnock, said that four coaches left that town for the towns of Nem - Mins, Darvel, and (kil oton, and he calculated the passengers at about 30,000 a year. The passengers travelling by cars he supposed about.from 9,000 to 10,000. There was also a large trade in agricultural produce. Mr. W. HENDERSOM, residing in Hamilton, said that 2,400 cattle were sent annually to Itntherglen, and GO per week to Glasgow. There were lime fields in the district much used for agricultural pur poses. CHRISTIE proved that the minerals in the district through which the line was proposed to pass were of the most valuable character. lie estimated the traffic in minerals alone at above 6,0001., which he conceived would be trebled in 10 years. Dlr. William Anderson, traffic-taker, proved the returns of traffic trtween Strathaven and Kilmarnock. The total revenue in passen gers, goods, minerals, and parcels, was 16,314/. IRA. gd. This closed the traffic evidence. Mr. James Home estin ated the value of land and Intersectional damage at 22,7001. sald that the length of the line was eighteen miles. The esthnated expense, inducing land, was 230,000/. The heaviest gradient on the libe was one in forty-seven ; avid he had hot one level crossing, at a point where It was intended to place a station. It was Intended to hare the use of an asslstaut engine to propel heavy trains. The expense of working this line he calcu lated at 33';4 per cent. Ile was certain that no better hue could be la 7 d out. The tahl, of ,toents and ilksetltq was then pnt iu The Committee then adintirned. GROUP XIV. NORTH XMNT LIMO (continued from our Afternoon Edittou.) The Cif ATRUAN said that the Committee had decided to adhere to the practice of former Committees, and should allow the North Kent line, when the tine came, to produce any evidence they might please against the South-Eastern line. Mr. Valiance, cross-examined by Mr. GOLDSSIID, stated that he is solicitor to the Greenwich Railway Company. In 1841 he received a proposition from Mr. Vignoles, and a similar one from the South Eastern Railway Company. Was in possession of the proposition of the North Kent Railway before the South-Eastern Railway. Mr. Miller stated that he Is a civil engineer, and has had a good deal of experience in the construction of railways. His attention has been directed to North Kent, with a view to the formation of a railway. Has examined the line of railway proposed by Mr. 'trig- Holes. Thinks that it is laid out so as to meet the wants of the district. The stratum through which cuttings will have to be made is flivourable. The estimates made by Mr. Vignoles appear to be amply sufficient for the work. The line passes within 180 yards of a powder-mill, but did not consider that it is dangerous. Is constructing a line In Scotland which passes much nearer to a very large powder mill. The Lord Advocate has examined that part of the line, and, aided by competent advisers, has Pronounced it to be quite safe. By Mr. AUSTIN—Went down to view the line on Saturday morn ing, and returned on Sunday evening. If the work of the line is of the kind inserted in the estimates, the prices are amply sufficient. The line he is constructieg in Scotland passes quite close to the powder mils on both cuttings and embankments. Mr. Locke stated that he had been over the North Kent line, and heti examined it rather particularly. Is of opinion that the line is very well laid out, and passes through good soil. There is no diffi culty in the works, and the estimates appear ample for the works to be executed. By Mr. Cocuaraw, Who appeared on the part of the South-Eastern Railway—Has examined the line about three weets ago, and w engaged two days in the surv e y. There is some clay on the surface as the soil, but not much. It does not go to any depth. Balton h:11 Is the place where the heaviest works are o n th e line. The gradient on the North Kent lineis lin 2, emai l -Eastern, where it is 1 in 80 or 90. 13 tout it is w orse on the By Sir W. RIDDLE (who appeared for the promoter s}—The works near the fortification at Chatham are rather expel,' ve, but very sub stantial. James Hairy Andrews stated that he made some boring near Balton-hill, to examine the strata. On the west s : de of the hill nine feet of yellow clay, then twenty-seven feet of black clay, twhassi srx feet or sand, a thin layer of sandstone, a thin layer of six feet of blue, sand, seven feet of red sand, t wenty-three feet of sharp sand, and forty feet of blue sand. The total d ept h of the shaft was 121 feet. By Mr. _ALEXANDER (who appeared for the South-Eastern lines Has been occupied before in boring through geological strata, sunk two shafts with a distance of 5-Bths or a mile between them. The depth of one shaft was 121 feet and the other 100 feet. Both shafts are In the ce►.tre of the proposed tunnel. In tke eastern tunnel there is oa the surface four feet of yellow clay, sixteen feet of black clay, seven feet of white sand, five feet of veiny sand, five feet red sand and sandstone, seven feet of shard red sand, one foot of iron stone, fifteen feet. of sharp, clear sand, and thiriy-eight feet of e sand. Mr. llawkshaw stated that he Is an engineer. Has been over the line laid down by Mr. Vignoles, and has found that it is well laid j down. Cross-examined by Bin LAING (who appeared against the pro jez:ed line)-11as had a good deal of experience in the management of amalgamation in railway companies. Has expressed himself in lavour of having a number of railways under one system of manage ment. Thinks it generally advisable that short lines should be at tached to the most important line In their neighbourhood. The North Kent lino is one of more importance than the South-Eastern. Does not thick that any benefit caused by competition would be equal to that of united management. Conspetion would make the Co:npany more active. The CHAIRMAN intimated that this course of examination was not regular. Mr. Essen, examined by 31r. GOED9MID—Is the solicitor to the Bridgewater Railway Company. In 1844 received a proposition from the North Kent Comixtli y. Had not at th a t ti me rece i ved any pro position from the South-Eastern Company. By Mr. COCKBURN—Became agent for the Bridgewater Railway Company during last session. _ _ By (I:oLD:min—libe Admiralty had given its consent to the bridge at Rochester, as proposed by the North Kent Railway Company. Mr. Unmet, examined by Mr Tateor7.'in support of the line)— Ilse examined seYeral points of the proposed line, particularly the works at Chatham and thelMton Tunnel, Has examined the strata RAILWAY COMMITTEES HOUSE OF LORDS. Their Lord,ihips then thrilled themselves into a Committee Cl meriti. In this case the Committee decided that the preamble had been proved, but adjourned the case till Thursday for the engineer's report upon the crossing of levelA and amending the schedule of tolls. The Committee came to a like tlecision in this case, and ad;ounic , it for the want of the same evidence. BALLYMENA AND BALLYMONEY. This Bill passed through the Committee, and will lie reported to the Brum and set down for a third resdhtg. The Committee then adjourned. 110 USE OF COMMONS. (:itoup EraNzuRGH AND NORTHERN. The Committee who have charge of Group No. 6 sat at twelv•, o'clock, in the Court of Queen's tench, Sir John Hobson chairman. The objects of she line are to make branches to the harbour of Perth and Pettycar, and to pass close to the town of Dysart by means of a deviation. The line came before a Committee last session, and a Bill was procured, but the line was prohibited to be made until the parties should procure the permission of the town council of Perth, as the branches proposed to pass through certain property, relict the Inches, belonging to the Corp ra tion of Perth. This appor,l the Compauy had now procured, a' d proposed to insert a clause hi their Bill to that effect. A short time :ificr the general case n d been openrd, the Court was cleared, and on lie re-admission of the parties, The CuantalAN said, that as It appeared to the Committee that the parties were net in a fit state of preparation they would adjourn until Thursday. Mr. Sergeant BELLASIS said he was prepared to go on with the branches, and that he understood there would be no competition. The Committee agreed to hear the case, and the Learned Sergeant proceeded to state it. He placed a map before the Committee, by which he said it appeared that the branch to Perth did touch a corner of one of the Inches, which gave the Perth authorities a locus stand i before the Committee. Mr. Granger, engineer, was then examined—He deposed that the proposed line of last year ryas objected to by Lord Rossiya in con \ sequence of its too close proximity to Dysart House ; but in the pre sent plan the line was altered so as to remove that objection ; it would be of great importance to all t he lines to have the branch to Perth harbour made, and it was proposed to work it by horse power. The Scottish Central Company proposed to make the line from the liarbour - to the mouth of the tunnel ; this C o mpa n y proposed to make the same line last year, but both were abandoned in consequence of its proximity to the Penitentiary. The Central Company had re newed their proposal this year. Mr. PICKERING said he appeared on behalf of the Central Scottish Company to oppose this branch. Mr. Sergeant BELLASIS said that no opposition could be entertained unless it tame before the Committee either as a petition or a com peting line ; but the Scottish Central did not appear in either capacity. Mr. PICKERING said that the Edinburgh and Northern Company had not, either by their Bill of last year or this, taken power to build their South-Eastern Station In the place indicated by the map. Mr. Sergeant BELLASIS said that he would withdraw the branch to the harbour, as he now understood there was a competing line ; but with respect to the other twe branches there was no opposition Mr. PicKamiNG suggested a postponement of the other branches fix the present, as another Bill would come before the Committee which would materially affect the proposed position of the Perth termini and stations. Mr. Sergeant Bm.r.asts said his Learned Friend did not appear in any capacity against the other two branches, and therefore he would suggest that the Committee should dispose of them. The Comnhtee then declared the preamble of the Bill proved, and agreed, :it the request of Mr. Sergeant Bellasis, to postpone the coo sideratien of the clauses until to-morrow morning. Mr. PlesEitiso said lie would oppose some of the clauses. PERTH AND CRIEI'P MINE. A protracted discussion took place upon the question as to whether this Bill should be proceeded with to-day. Tie object of this line is to make a branch from the Scottish Cen tral Line to Blockihrd; the length, IS runes ; the branch 7 miles ; and the estimated cost 300,000/. flue Committee finally agreed to adjourn the case till to-morrow. Mr. Wifliain Johnstone was then called and examined by the CHAIRMAN—Iie had been Harbour-Master for 17 years. Wltlmis's ev id ence was pi spbstan,a to the effect, that the general terminus. , ... , was deeideelly superior to the other two. The general terminii: would pose all the advantages without the disadvantages of the paters. The Grand Junction was too high and the Ilarlionr Mine - al too I.)w. The General Terminus was 1,000 feet below the present quay on the south side. The Committee then adjourned until twelve o'clock to-morrow, GROUP XV. - Kir. J.. 7. JonxsoN, previous to adjournment, submitted to the Committee that the objectien taken on the other side to the Chiches ter line, iu the case of error in the levels laid down in the sections, was a " standing order" point, and therefore that the Committee was precluded by one of the standing orders from examining it. Ile suggested that: an inquiry should be made whether this was not so in the present case. Mr. MEREWETIIER contended that it was not a standing order objeeticn, and It came within the province of the present Cc inmate°, under the 20th section of the Land Clauses Act, limiting the cuttings to 5 feet in the country and 2 feet in the towns. The Committee adjourned till twelve o'clock tomorrow. GE IT CHERTSEY AND EGHAM BRANCH. The Committee (all the members of which were present) met at twelve o'clock, when Mr. Word ,worth submitted a plan by which the branch could be made without interfering with his property, and it was agreed that it should be submitted to Mr. Locke's conside a: Mr. Briscoe, a magistrate and gentleman of property, gave evi denee similar to that of Colonel CitaHoner yesterday. Mr. Edgill, who resides within hatfa mill of Egham, stated that a great advantage would be afforded by this railway, mid that Cassia challoner had understated the number of persons whose attendance was required at the petty sessions : there 160 per annum en an ave rage, whichh information he had derived from the clerk. in conse quence of the obstruction of traffic, and the convenience enjoyed by other places, the value or property had greatly declined, and there were at the present time 67 houses tinoccupied in Egharn. lie perfectly concurred in the opinion that a great advantage would be derived front the cheaper conveyance of chalk to that die rect. To Sir C. Pouesas —Mr. Edgill replied that the empty houses were of the smaller size. Mr. Whitton, a banker at Egliam, confirmed Mr. Edgill'e state mentrespecting the disadvantage accruing to Eugham from the want of a railway. A little conversation then ensued respecting the point on which Mr. Evans rests, and Mr; Wordsworth, on his behalf, stated, that as he had ulterior designs, in which he should probably show the propiety and force of his client's case, he should not cross-examine on the public merits of the case. The Committee then decided that it was unnecessary to call any further evidence on the traffic merits of the branch, Lot that the engineer and the surveyor should be called. Prior, however, to the examination of Mr. :Locke, a conversation took place between that gentleman and Mr. Evans's surveyor, but the resell was a disa greement in opinion as to the avoidance of Mr. Evans's property, and the plans were submitted to the Committee. air: Locke was then called, and stated part of his evidence re specting the course of the line, and its engineering character. 'I here were three roads crossed at a level, but he had preferred that mode of traverse in a flat country, because he thought it better than raising embankments or bridge approaches, and which would have the further disadvantage of Interfering with the town of Chert sey. The estimated cost of the line, including the land, would he 100,0001., the annual expenses were estimated at 3,997/., and the returns, 9,6301., having a rough profit of 5,600., giving an average of five or six per cent. With respect to Mr. Evans's propet ty, he was induced to refrain from giving n to the opposition, because, in the first place, as laid out interfeired less than it would otherwise do with the property, both to the right and left ; and secondly, because the Company wore pledged not to deviate towards Mr. Burnett's property , thirdly, it would interfere with Lady Montford's property, and the deviation, as proposed by the other side, would throw the railway into a village. The distance from Mr. Evan's house was about 140 yards. To the CHAIRMAN.—Mr. Locke replied, that the engineering diffi culties occasioned by the alteration were immaterial, although the change would be rather prejudicial than otherwise. To Mr. Woanswonzu. —Mr. Locke stated that the change would effect the curves, and render the line more inadvisable titan it was as now laid out. The line would certainly interfere with the view of the copse on St, Anne's Hill, which was an ornamental object, as seen from Mr. Evan's house. The house also would he somewhat interered with las the bridge near the property. The reason for taking the course they did was, that the deviation would oblige the Company not only to infringe upon their engagement with Mr. Burnett, but also with Lady Montford's property, the village he had spoken of, in which, if the line were carried that way, at least half a dozen cottages would have to he pulled dawn, and other lands and grounds, would be effected besides. By sharpening the curve, perhaps the village might be avoided, bur the change would be inconvenient. The deviation proposed by Mr. Evans would carry the line through through the parsonage-house, and there appeared to be no means of avoiding that difficuty. Mr. Crawter was recalled, and stated, that he valued the land for the line, the va•ue of which land was 24,33g1. 3s. 10d., including sectional damage. He knew a Mr. :Evan's House, which Is a good, gentlemanly residence, but it fronted the north, and looked away from the railway, which could only be seen from acme of the bedroom windows at the back of the house. Ile also knew Lady Montford's house, which was not such a good one as Mr. Evans's house but ft looked, at the distance of about 100 yards, towards the railway. He was also acquainted with Mr. Ben net's property. Ilis house was a good fbmily mansion, surrounded by 400 acres ef ground ; and, by a stipulation with that gentleman, it WAR agreed that the line should not be carried nearer to his house than as now laid down. Mr. Evans's house stood at the corner of two roads, on which' there was a considerable traffic, and the ground in front of the premises belonged to Lady Moniford. To Mr. WORDSWORTH —The witness repeat. d his previous evidence, and stated that he had purchased the parsonage house on behalf of the Company ; but, at a previous 'mating with Mr. Evans's agent, he had merely suggested the deviation which had been shown by that gentleman. A plan had eertoinly been sent to him dy Mr. Hunt, but qe did not know what hail become of it. To Mr. 'lore—The witness repeated his assertion that the railway would not interfere with the line of sight between Mr. James's house and the copse on St. Anne's Hill. To Lord POLLINGTON and Mr. Br.r.wrrr— The witness replied that the parsonage house was bought because a bridge was to be erected, which would be close to the windows, and the purchase had been made in order to avoid !My ditalculty with the patron of the living. The lend near Mr. Evans's house was ornamental ineadoes, but he thought that the injury done to Mr. Ben nett's property would be g. eater than that suffered by Mr. Evans, as the line went directly through the former gentleman's palls. 9 'his closed the case fur the promoters, and Mr. Woensworrn was about to open his case, is hen the chairman intimated that ..ss thought the feeling of the committee was to pass the preamble and discuss, Mr. Evans's claims on the clause. On this suggeetion the counsel would have acted, but a difficulty arose respecting the ar rangement, and Mr. Wordsworth was about to proceed against the preamble, when, alter some conversation between the severe: pal ties concerned, a conference was held between them, the result of which was that 211 r. Bennett, having conceded part of his claims, the company were enabled to take such a lino of deviation as would 'met Sir. Evans's views, and the preamble of the Bill was declared proved. bele;liiemeaczniwttheaed7 wasll went suggestedthetlirotigli b c y lauses, after an alteratio n h a d Mr. Wordsworth, and the Chairman was directed to cnrry up the report. LtOtal XIX . This c-ommittee commenced its sittings this morning in the dining. ream or the Session• house, Westminster. The committee consisted of Lord Harry Vane, chairman ; Mr. F. Scott, the Earl of ➢larch Mr. _Norris, and Mr. Bennett. EXETER, TOPSHAM, AND EXMOUTH, was the flat Bill that WAS taken by the Commtttee. The line is a Yhort site, being only seven miles in length. The estimated cost is 100,000/. _ The Bil;was opposed by the corporation of Exeter. Thera was a competing line called the Exeter and Exmouth Railway. Sergeant Murphy aud Mr. Merrivale appearsd for the promoters of the Bill. Mr. MERRIVALE having opened the case, called Mr. Wilcocks, a member of the town council of Exeter, in support of the Bill. lie sp,ke of the general advantage to the neighbourhcod of the line. The witness was cross-examined on the part of the corporation of Exeter, with the titiect of showing that sufficient accommodation would be afforded to the neighbourhood by the existing canal. GROUP XXV. MA.LDEN, 'WITHAM, AND BILAXNTREN. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition.) Mr. Beedale, the surveyor of the line, estimated the price of the land to be taken for the line at 9,910/. The line in no way interfered with any residential property, nor did it injure any house or building. Mr. Locke, the engineer, proved that the length of the line was twelve miles and six chains. There was no tunnelling—the gra dients were good, and on the whole the line was the best that could be selected. The estimate was 186,000/. ; the subscribed capital of the Company was 200,000/. The Blackwater River could easily be deepened, and at a moderate outlay. The line joined the Eastern Counties on a level at Witham. After the working ex penses of the line had been paid, he estimated that there would be a disposable balance of 18,1751., or 10 per cent. upon the paid up capital. _ _ This closed the case for the promoters. The opposition WAS pose pored till to-morrow. !The Committee:adjourned, at four o'clock, till twel're o'clock to morrow. Sub-Committee No. 2. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition.) IRISH UNION. The object of this Bill was to construct a railway from Dumfries to Portpatrick, with an extension from Dumfries to the Caledonian Railway, at or near Springfield, to the parish of Gretna, with broriches front Enispie to Kirkcudbright, from Carty Port to Wigtown, and from Lachans to Stranraer. Length of the line, including branches, 120 miles ; capital, 1,550,000/. Parliamentary agents, Messrs. Dunlop and Hope. The formal proo f s having been taken, the petitions against the Bill, for two of which there was au appearance, were heard. Cole Ea appeared in support of the first petition from Mr. Mackay and others, complaining of non-compliance with the stand ing orders. The class of allegations entered into stated that there were errors in the subscription contract deed, in some instances the name of only one member of a firm being subscribed. The room was cleared. On our re - admission, it being announced that the Speaker was at prayers, the Committee adjourned till to morrow% Sub-Committee No 6. LANARKSHIRE AND LOTNIAN (Continued from our Afterno on Edition.) S. The evidence of all the witnesses, with the exception of the engineer, having been tendered, Mr. LANG applied to have the case postponed, to which Mr. PRITT, the opposing agent, objected, and the Committee, after a brief delay, decided that the promoters should proceed with their case. Mr. PRITT said, that the first allegation to wh!ch he would call the attention of the Committee was that of the Monkland nto 1: irkintilloch Railway Company, who complained that their names had not been mentioned either in the books of reference, deposited in the offices of the clerks of the peace in the district through which the line was proposed to pass, or in the documents deposited in the Private Bill-oflice, as owners of the Rose hall branch of their railway, with which the promoters of the present Bill intended to interfere. The allegation was declared to be sustained. The Committee was occupied during the remainder of the day with .her minor allegations, some of which were sustained and others not. The case was adjourne4l until te-morrow, near Bolton-hill, and there will be no difficulty in forming a tunnel. Has observed the hue between Chatham and Sittingbourne, said it is very judiciously laid out there. Had examined the country Also last year, and had observed that the line passed within twenty yards, of the powder-mills ; it appeared safe then, and must certainly do so now, when the distance is 180 yards. By Mr. Cocx BURN— Was about eight hours at Bolton. The powder mill may be passed safely I,y the trains. The trains would not affect the mill at a distance of 180 yards ; nor would the explosion of the mills affect the trains at that distance. By Mr. TALBOT—No great length of time was weeeFsary to ex amine the strata at the shaft. Mr. Miller, examined 'by Kr. TALBOT—Is an engineer, and has gone into the expense of the propo ed bridge at Rochester. Ilas also estimated the expense of a bridge for the bridge-wardens before the existence of the North Kent Railway Company. Mr. TALBOT then announced that the case on the part of the North Kent line was closed, with the exception of a few words which he wished to have from Mr. 'rite, on the subject of the valuation of land along the line. Mr. Tile was not then present, tier could he lie im mediately called. Under these circumstances, he proposed to close his case, reserving to himself the right of briefly examining Mr. The to-morrow morning, and also of producing a letter which had been received from the Boat d of Ordnance. After a short discussion, Mr. DAWSOS (who appeared in support of a petition against the proposed line by Sir John Evelyn), then proceeded to address the Committee very briefly. The promoters of the Korth Kent line here requested permission to add the evidence of Sir Frederick Smith, as to the safety of the trains passing the powder mills. Sirr F. Smith stated that he had examined the course of the pro posed line last year. It passed very close to the mills, but was not unsafe. The dani,er, if any, might be prevented by covering the line with Iron roofing. By Mr. MEIIREWETHER (for the South Eastern line.'.—lf a line rf railway were at a distance of 200 yards from a powder-mill, the explosion of 40 barrels of powder would give a concussion, but would not occasion any serious damage. The powder in that state called the " green charge" is nearly as strong as the powder when quite prepared for use. The powder-m its are generally very strongly built, and there would be very heavy materials thrown in case or an explosion. Remembers an explosion which occurred last year at Dartford or Hounslow. The stones which were split were very massive, but they were not moved far. Thinks that the rail way at Chatham would be better if under the fire of the guns from the fortification. Cannot say whether the station should be under the fire of the gulls. At Gosport. there is a stolen both inside and outside the works, and the one Inside is safer, though not under the fire of the battery. The station outside the battery is under the fire of the cannon, but is not so safe. BRIGHTON AND CHICHESTER (noGNort. AND LITTLE lIADIPTON nizaNclins). BOGNOR AND CHICHESTER. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition.) Mr. JOHNSON NEALE opposed the Brighton branch to Bognor on behalf of Mr. Richard Clarke, landowner at Bognor. and called evi dence to show that the Brighton Company had been guilty of a breach of faith and agreement. Mr. Rastrick on his cross-examination by Mr. NEALE said, that Mr. Clark had projected the present Bognor branch previous to the Brighton Company taking it up, and that he (Mr. Rastrick) con sented to become engineer of the line, and had the surveys made and paid for. lie (Mr. Rastrick) thought afterwards it would he more advisable that the Brighton Company should make the pro jected line, and made use accordingly of the surveys already taken to make up the sections and plans for the Brighton Company. Several witnesses were called on the part of the Chichester direct branch, to show that the vreat preponderance of public feeling in Chichester and in Bof . ,nor was in favour of the Chichester and Bognor line. STANDING ORDERS' COMMITTEES. lIOUSE OF LORDS. (Conflated from our Afternoon Edition.) DUBLIN AND GALWAY. This case having been closed for the promoters, Mr. Sergeant WRANGIIAM addressed the Committee for the Dublin and Mnllingar Company. The Learned Counsel complained of the other side having abandoned certain plans which were submitted to Parliament last year, and eoming in now for the same powers with altogether new plans and sections ; its fact, quite a new survey. The Learned Sergeant having gene at length into the merits of both lines, concluded by stating that be would call such evidence as would alter the impression made by the pro moters of the Dublin and Galway line. The first witness was then called, and the Committee adjourned to eleven o'clock to-morrow. THE NEWRY, WARRENPOINT,'AND ROSTREVOR. The Committee appointed to consider the merits of this Bill com menced its sittings to-day at twelve_ o'clock, the Earl of Resebery in the chair. Mr. ALEXANDER opened for the promoters, after which witnesses were called in to support the preamble. The case for the promoters having closed, Mr. AUSTIN addressed the Committee for the Newry Navi gation Company, who opposed the proposed line of railway on the ground that it would injure the traffic of tl e canal. The Learned Counsel concluded by saying that he would call evidence to show the injury which his clients would sustain; after which he trusted the Committee would flx a rate of compensation which would indemnify the Nal igation Conrany. The Cemndttee then adjourned till twelve o'clock to-morrow. DIRECT I ONDON AND PORTSMOUTH RAILWAY. The Committee met this day at half-past one o'clock; present, th e Earl of Shaftesbury (in the Chair), Lords Redesdale, llawarden, an d Ilocd. In this case the Company having received their Bill, ca their undertaking to produce a Bill signed by the proper parties, The agent for the lire submitted to their Lordships that the proper deed had been prepared, and the Committee accordingly confirmed their decision of yesterday. LONDON AND YORK RAILWAY. This case which came under the denomination of privileged Bills was the next which came under the consideration of the Com mittee. The same objection as that tendered against the Direct London and Portsmouth Railway (and which may be seen in our railway report yesterday) was also urged against the line. The Committee adjourned the case to Thursday next. A question arose—that as the new deed of contract had been executed by other parti - s from those who paid the deposits— whether those parties had any claim on the fund in court which had been paid under the virtue of the ed deeds. The Committee decided that as the money lead been paid on ac count of the Company of the Lyndon and Torii Railway, they were entitled to make use of it. WEXFORD AND WATERFORD, AND VALENCIA RAILWAY. This case was adjourned until Thursday next, the parties nut being in attendance. HOUSE OF COMMONS. MIDLAND (SWINTON TO LINCOLN). (Continued from our Afternoon Edition.) The promoters in this case were allowed to go on, on condition that they divided their present measures into two Bills. BRADFORD, WAKEFIELD, AND ➢IIDLAND. . . Not allowed to be proceeded with. The Committee adjourned till to-morrow, at one o'clock. Sub Committe No. 3. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition.) EXETER GREAT WESTERN. The petition of the executor Robert Pearce, alleging that no notice had been given of the construction of the line was then taken into consideration. The Committee decided that in this case the standing orders were complied with, sufficient care having been taken to ascertain the re puted ownership of the hinds in question, and due notice having been served in accordance with the result of that inquiry. William lliggins and others presented petitions, the allegations of which were of a similar nature, but ruaLy of the objections of which were pronounced to be immaterial and frivolous. The Committee then adjourned till twelve o'clock to-morrow. MARKET INTELLIGENCE. (From the Landon 21 - ew Price Current of March 24.) SUGAR.—To- day there was a good desire manifested to purchase West India Muscovado Sugar, but business of moment was prevented by the assot tenent and supply at market being scanty and indifferent ; the rates paid were fully equal to those of Friday, and in some in stances rather above. I:IBEFINED.—To-day there was less demand for refined goods from Ilse home trade, but brown grocery Lumps could not be obtained uader Gls, and Standard Lumps G",s. per cwt. Bonded Crushed Sugar met wtth less attention, but first quality could not be had under 35 t per cwt for forward delivery. SlAuhrrius.—This afternoon Mauritius Sugar was in excellent re quest, and 7,16 G bags at auction were all sold at full rates, indeed In some cases an advance of tid per cwt was obtained. EAST INDIA.—This afternoon there was three public sales of Ben gal Sugar comprising 4,827 bags ; the trade were desirous to operate, and nearly the whole sold 3t full rates. foitencY.—To-day there 1,762 boxes of Yellow Cuba were offered at public sale : there was a be .ter demand, and the whole sold at first prices. COFFEE.—This afternoon Mocha Coffee met with little attention, and 92 bales at auction were only in part sold upon rather lower terms. Privately there was little business transacted in home trade or shipping sorts but holders were mot inclined to reduce their prices. TEA.—Notwitli6tanding the moderate rates at which there are sel lers of Congou, yet the trade have operated with caution in all de scriptions. The stock ef Pouchong being light, holders are enabled to obtain full rates, but the demand ;has bren only for small parcels. Twankay has been sparingly dealt in, and easier rates are accepted. Notwithstanding the cheapness of Ilysons, still there are few buyers to be met with, aad prices are drooping. In Campoi a large business has been transacted, in consequence of Gd per lb having been accepted. 7he inferior sorts of Gunpowder are heavy of disposal, and can be obtained upon rather lower terms ; but tine has been purchased with more freedom at 3s 6d to 3s 10d. In the better sorts of Imperial a fair business has been transacted, but not at higher prices. MoLessas. - -Thi - s afternoon at public sale 152 casks of Mauritius Molasses were sold at 15s 6d per cwt for very low dark. There was more desire shown to purchased West India of all sorts privately, and 23s per cwt refused for flue Demerara. SPICES.—To-day Pimento was in good request, and 250 bags at public sale all sold at steady prices —good middling and good bringing 3Nd to 3"hd, and middling 3%4 per lb. SPIRITS --Although Jamaica Rum is to be obtained upon rather lower terms, still exporters and the trade have operated with cau tion in all descriptions. Leeward Island is to be obtained upon rather lower terms. For Calcutta rather lower rates having been taken, tempted buyers to operate with much more freedom. Demerara has been purchased with caution, and 2s 9d to 3s are the prices for strong sorts. In Brandy purchases to a fair extent have been made, and prices advanced 2d to 4d per gallon. The business done in Geneva has been limited, and at lower rates. The price of British Corn Spirits is lOs Gd per gallon net cash, and Gin 8s 10d for 22 per cent. under proof, and 17 under 9s 4d per gallon. COCIIINEAL.—This afterroon at public sale 100 bags of Honduras Silvers were offered, aLd about halt sold at the former rate. SALTPETRE.—To-day rough was sough after, and 500 bags at public sale were sold at full rates, and brought 25s Gd to 26s for 93. i per cent. refraction middling damp grey. MPERIAL PARLIAMENT (THIS EVENING.) HOUSE OF LORDS. ROYAL ASSENT. The royal assent was given to-day by commission to the Metropolitan Buildings Amendment Bill, and the Fever (Ireland) Bill. The Commissioners were the Lord Chancellor, the Duke of Buccleuch, and the Earl of Haddington. The House resumed at Five o'clock. POOR-LAW UNIONS. The Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition from cer fain officers of the West Hundred Union in Sussex, praying that such officers might be allowed pensions upon their be coming superannuated. He would net take a long time, be cause he was sure that when the Bill came there it would be regular for him to move such an amendment. The Duke of BUCCLEUCH moved the third reading of the Print Works Bill. The Bill was then read a third time. ELY AND HUNTINGDON RAILWAY. Lord DACRE presented a petition from certain parties, praying their Lordships not to proceed further in the prosecu tion of the Huntingdon and Ely Bill, on account of non-com pliance with the standing orders, and errors in the datum line. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY said the Bill was allowed to pass through the Standing Orders' Committee, because there was no opposition to it. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE considered if they granted the pra3er of the petition that they would treat the promoters of the line with great hardship, because they ad mitted they would have proceeded with, and probably passed the Bill, if no opposition had been manifested against it, but now that a petition had been presented against it they were asked to postpone or not proceed with it at all. He protested against such a course of proceeding, es it was extremely easy for per sons to get up an opposition to a railway Bill. Lord REDESDA LE thought the Noble Marquis did not properly understand the r a , e, as lie said if there had been no opposition that their Lordships would have given their assent to the Bill. But lie forgot there was an error in the sections of such a monstrous character as to render it quite impostible for them to pa's the Bill unle s s no o bj ec ti on h a d b een raised to it by any person whatever. There was an error of ten feet in the datum line. No great injury, however, could result to the promoters of the Bill, as a line with which it was con nected, the Huntingdon and Wisbeach, had not passed the Standing Orders' Committee. Lord CAMPBELL saw no objection why the Bill should not be read a third time. After a few words from the Marquis of SALISBURY, The Marquis of LONDONDERRY thought the case under consideration was analogous to that of the Great County Down Railway, and it should not be treated more favourably than that line had been. The Earl of DALHOUSIE said that the two cases were as different as possible. He never knew any line more trouble some than the one alluded to by the Noble Marquis.—(Laugh.) The Duke of RICHMOND said if it went abroad that one line was to be prefered before another, as had been insinuated, it would be very hard to get Noble Lords to attend a Committee on standing orders. 'I he Standing Orders Committee, in consequence of the be • lief that there was no opposition to the Bill, although the standing orders had not been complied with, had stated that it was a case in which they might be dispensed with. It was now moved that the Bill should be returned to the standing Orders Committee. He was afraid that the Standing Orders Committee did not act with sufficient severity. If it was proved that the standing orders had not been complied with, the rejection of the Bill ought to be imperative. Lord MONTEAG LE said that if they passed over incorrect plans and sections given by men who called themselves en gineers, the consequence should be that the Bill ought not to:be allowed to pass. It would encourage the appointment of in competent persons in the formation of these works. That was a subject of great importance, and would particularly affect the general interests of the country at large, for in consequence of the extravagant enterprises and speculations, we should sooner or later have to contend with the difficulties of un finished railways over the length and breadth of the land. And when their Lordships considered what a positive nuisance to the landed proprietors it would be if these railways were left unflnishel, they should protest against this, and tell the pro moters of Bills that inaccuracies on the part of men of science, or men calling themselves men of science, would not meet with any indulgence or favour on the part of that House but on the contrary, it would be at once punished by the refusal of the Bill, and when it was said that in the engineering department there was an error affecting 36 miles out of 40, he for one should be prepared to vote against the Bill. On the motion being put it was negatived. RAILWAYS. The Earl of WICKLOW presented a petition from the grand jury and other influential persons of the county of Sligo, praying for an alteration in the standing orders respecting railways. He also presented a petition from the county of Mayo, numerously signed, in favour of the Great Western Irish Railway Bill. MEDICAL REMUNERATION BILL. The Earl of CLANCARTY presented a petition from a great number of medical practitioners which stated that they had no remuneration for their attendance on lunatics sent to lunatic asylums, and praying for an alteration in the law in that respect. INSOLVENT DEBTORS' BILL. On the motion of the Duke of 13 UCCLEUCH, the House went into Committee of this Bill. THE NATIONAL DEBT. Lord STOURTON rose to move' for returns - ef the deduc tions at different times, in the interest of the National Debt, for the exports in the five years terminating in 1790 (inclusive of that year), and in the five years preceding 1821, and in the five years preceding 1846, for the aggregate amount and value s of the different species of income as deducible from the last five years of the French war to the termination of that tax or income, and the annual amount of national income, as deducible from the last income-tax, so far as the return s may be made up, and for a return of the average produce of wheat in Poland, Prussian or Russian, and adjoining provinces, as estimated by Mr. Jacob in his reports to the Government. The Nobie Lord prefaced his motion by a few observations, but they were quite inaudible in the gallery. The motion was agreed to. The Bills on the table were then advanced a stage, and the House adjourned. HOUSE OF Col6lo\ S. The SrraxEß took the Chair at a few minutes to Four. Mr. LAWSON moved that the following Bills in Group No. 43—East and West Yorkshire Junction (York and Knaresborough), Great North of England ( Bedale Branch), Great North of England (Boroughbridge Branch)—be taken nut of Group No. 43, being unopposed Bills, and referred to Mr. Greene and the Members introducing such Bills, on the 31st instant, unless petitions against any of these Bills be pre sented on or before Monday next, the 30th instant (inclusive), in which case such Bill or Bills shall continue as at present grouped. After a desultory conversation, in which Mr. Brotherton, Mr. B. Denison, Mr. Fox Mottle, Mr. Hodgson, Mr. Greene, Mr. Craig, Mr. Hudson, Mr. buncombe, Mr. Aldam, Mr. Collett, and. Col. Wood joined, a division ensued, when there appeared -7_ For the motion Against it Majority against the motion ROYAL ASSENT. Sir Augustus Clifford, the Usher of the Black Rod, ap peared at the bar of the House, and summoned the attend ance of the Commons in the House of Lords, to hear the royal assent given by ecmmission to several Bills, which hare passed both Houses during the present session. Mr. THORNELY presen!ed a petition against the Glasgow Police Bill. Mr. BOUVERIE presented a petition against the Edin burgh and Northern Railway. Mr. HUME said he would call the attontion of the House to a circumstance which he knew to be against rules ;Ilse was at all times unwilling to transgress in that way for a mutter of small importance, but this case called fur the interference of the House. The borough of ?Montrose, which he had the honour to represent, contained 15,C00 inhabitants,aml,durir g the former times of scarcity, a; sum of money was subscribed to purchase certain grounds for the accommodation and recreation of the public. One of the numerous railways then under the con sideration of the House, would in its course interfere with this ground. The magistrates of this borough of course expected that the railway company would be willing to make compen sation, by purchasing an equal amount of ground, and leveling it. Negotiations to this effect were in progress, and the magisteates had every reason to believe, until a few days' ago, that the compensation they expected would be given • but a short time since they received an intima ion that the eompany would have nothing to do with purchasing fresh ground, but that it was only a use of compensation in the ordinary sense of the word. The property interfered with was sand near the sea side, and the price of an acre of it would not be the value of a quarter of an acre elsewhere. 'I he petition v as, therefore, that they might be heard before the Committee to which this Bill was referred. He was aware that it was not usual to send petitions before Committees after they had coma enced their labours ; and if it was for an individual, he should not make any such application, but this was a pubic question. The magistrates were merely trustees, and the grounds so given were to remain for ever for the public use. All he asked, therefore, was that the petition should be allowed to go before the Committee on the Railway Bill. Mr. GREENE was extremely Corry to oppose the motion of the Hon. Member, but he thought that if the House gave way in the present instance that they would have to give way in others, and great inconvenience to all parties could not fail to result. Besides that was not the first time such a case had been brought before the House, as he could point out numbers of instances in which parties hall so come forward to complain of similar hardships. The case brought forward by the Hon. Member did not appear to him to justify them in breaking through the orders which they had adopted for the regulation of public business. Mr. T. BARING considered, with the Hon. Member who had just sat down, that it would be unwise to bre a k th roug h the rules which they had adopted. As the money was granted for a public purpose, he should recommend the Hon. Member to apply to the Treasury, who would no doubt see that the money so granted was really devoted to the purposes intended. Mr. HUME said his sole object was that the public interests should not suffer. The Government undeniably gave 2001., and the parties referred to a similar sum, in order to lay out those grounds for the recreation of the people. But if the Treasury had any power to interfere in the matter, he thought an application to that quarter would be the proper course to adopt. With respect to what had fallen from Mr. Greene, he must say that he enter tained as high respect for the rules of the House as he did. He considered that the case which he advocated was one with respect to which he thought the House would not hesitate to depart from the established rule. After a few words from Mr. GREENE, Mr. HUME said that if the petition were allowiid to go More the Committee he should withdraw his motion. The motion was sulmeiuently withdrawn. NORTH BRITISH RAILWAY. An How. MEMBER presented a petition from Jedburgh in favour of the Carlisle Extension of the North British Railway. Mr. ESTCOURT brought up the report of the Standing Orders Committee. TIMBER DUTIES. Mr. THORNELY presented a petition from the Chamber of Commerce, Liverpool, in favour of the reduction of duties on timber. The petitioners stated that they heard with great satisfaction the proposed measure of the Government, and that for the purposes of ship building there was felt a great scarcity of live oak and pitch p►ne. Mr. HUME presented a petition from the inhabitants of Leith, praying also for a reduction of the duty on foreign timber. The petitioners stated that the interest of the general community st ould be greatly benefited by the proposed measure of her Majesty's Government, and that there was a scarcity of timber for the purposes of house building. Ordered to lie on the table. TEN HOURS' FACTORY BILL. Mr. LAWSON presented several petitions in favour of the Ten Houas' Factory Bill. They were ordered to lie on the table. Sir R. H. INGLIS presented a petition from Bradford, in Yorkshire, in favour of a Ten Hours' Bill. Sir G. STRICKLAND presented two petitions from Chor ley, in Lancashire, to the same effect. SETTLEMENT OF NATIONAL DISPUTES BY ARBITRATION. Dr. BOWRING presented a petition from Newport pray ing that all disputes between nations be settled by arbitration instead of war. MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS. Messengers from the House of Lords brought up several Bills. ISLE OF MAN. Dr. BOWRING moved for certain returns relating to the ale of Man.--Agreed to. ee:OTICES OF MOTION. Mr. WYSE gave notice that on the 7th of April he should move for a Committee to inquire into the present state of education in Ireland and the best means of improving it. POOR LAW. Mr. GEORGE BAN KES gave notice that, on Thursday next, he should move that the proposed: Bill for the removal of the poor in England be referred to a select Committee. Mr. O'CONNELL, not wishing to throw any impediment in the way of the adjourned debate on the corn-laws, postponed his motion for a Bill to enable the county of Cork to send two additional Members to this House, to replace those formerly returned for Subbury, till after Easter. Mr. WYSE, under similar circumstances, postponed his motion for leave to bring in a Bill relating to art-unions. LICHFIELD FREE SCHOOL. Lerd INGESTRE then proceeded to bring under the con• sideraiion of the House the petition of Thomas Wood, pro. prietor of the IVolverhampion Chronicle, in relation to Lichfield Fa ee School. He would wish to call attention.—( Oh, oh.) He hoped the House would hear him patiently, he would be very brief; but it would be better to let him go on, if they did not, he would adjourn the House.—(Laughter.) The memo rial he alluded to had been signed by the Mayor and Cor poration of Lichfield; and if the House would inquire into it, they would agree with him in saying that it would be too bad if the editors of newspapers were to be treated in this way. There had been two actions brought, one against the pub lisher of the paper, and the other against the editor, and a verdict of forty-eight shillings, with costs, was obtained. He had thus briefly stated the case, which he did not wish to dwell upon. At was a case of the greatest individual hardship, and he had therefore deemed it his duty to bring it under the consideration of the noose. The Noble Lord then concluded by moving that the memorial of the editor be taken into coosi daration by the House. Lord J. RUSSELL said he had no intention whatever to enter into the merits of this question at present. He believed that there were many similar cases, and he thought it would be unfair to decide exclusively upon the merits of thie particular ease. But he merely wished atipresent to submit to the House that, whatever might he their desire to deal with the question, no quest en should be brought forward which would have the effect of delaying the settlement of the important question which had been bro ug h t f orward b y the Right lion. Baronet.—( Hear, hear.) H e wou l d ask whether it would be unreasonable if he moved that the orders of the day be then read ? Unless some good rersons were shown for proceeding with the motion at present, he would certainly insist that the consideration of the orders of the delay ought not to be delayed, because the people of this country, particularly those of the manufacturing districts, were in a state of the greatest alarm lest the session should prematurely close before the question of corn was settled.—( Hear, hear.) The gteater portion of the labouring classes of the country were at present almost wholly without emple)ment, owing to the doubts which existed as to the settlercen of the present Ministerial measures. And that being the case, he did think that it would be unfair further to postpone that settlement, by entertaining such a motion as was then before the House. He would, therefore, move that the orders of the day be proceeded with. Dr. BOWRING wished to ask, whether there would be any compact between the Noble Lord and the Government if he consented to postpone the motion? Sir R. PEEL said he would have no objection to prowaire that, if the motion were postponed, the document alluded to should be laid before the House on an early day. Mr. WYSE hoped that the House would not delay the set tlement of the important question of the Crrn-laws by enter taining the motion at present. Sir R. H. GLIS would prefer the postponement of the Curry-law debate, so that the motion might be fully discussed. Lord INGESTRE said he merely moved for the memorial, in order to get it brought under the notice of the House. He would consent that the debate should be adjourned till to morrow week. The debate was accordingly adjourned till to-morrow week. ART UNIONS BILL. Mr. WYSE would not detain the House by entering into the merits of the Bill he was about to introduce. He would simply move for leave to bring in a Bill to legalise art unions. PROTECTION OF LIFE (IRELAND). Mr. POULET SC:ROPE moved for leave to introduce a Bill for the better protection of life in Ireland, by means of the better relief of the destitute peer therein. Sir JAMES GRAHAM would not offer the slightest oppo sition to the introduction of the Bill. &Leave was given to introduce the Bill. HARBOUR DUES. Mr. HUME moved--To discharge address March 3, rela tive to harbours, and insert the following :—Address for a re turn of the several dues and charges of every kind levied as port harbour dues on shipping, and on goods im ported and landed at each port, harbour, and creek in the United Kingdom ; stating the rates of the several dues per ton, or other weight or measurement, or per tally, and distingui!hing, in each harbour, the amount levied on shipping from the amount levied on goods, so as to ex. hibit the entire amount of port and harbour charges of every kind levied on the shipping, and on goods landed at each of the ports, harbours, and creeks, of the United Kingdom, the ag gregate levied on shipping and on goods in Scotland, England, and Ireland, for each of the years 1844 and 1845. Also a similar return from the several docks in Location river, and other rivers and harbours in the United Kingdom, and riot in cluded in the above order, for the same period.—Motion agreed to. _ FRIENDLY SOCIETIES' BILL. On the motion for resuming the adjourned debate, Sir J. GRAHAM observed that it was the intention of the Government to postpore till after Easter the amended Bill with reference to Friendly Societies, and also the second reading of the Hon. Member for Oldhnm's Factory Bill. REGISTRATION OF VOTERS (IRELAND) BILL. Colonel RAWDON wished to ask the First Lord of the Treasury whether, in the measure contemplated by Govern ment with respect to the Registration of Voters (Ireland), any provision is to be made for the shortening of borough elections? Sir R. PEEL said it was the intention of the Government to limit them to one day. Mr. OR SMBY GORE presented a petition from the county of Afongomery against the Government measures. THE ADJOURNED DEBATE ON THE CORN IM PORTATION BILL. Lord POLLINGTON rose, and was (LEST SPEARING.) THE LONDON GAZETTF (THIS EVENING.) Commissions by the Lord-Lieutenant of Devonshire. The Right Hon. C. it. Lord Clinton, to be Deputy Lieutenant, Dec. 27, 1845; J. Siinfant, Esq., to be Deputy Lieutenant, Jan. 17. East Devon Regiment of 111ilitia—F. B. Short, Esq., to be Cap tain ; G. Fursdon, Esq., to be Captain ; C. Rumley, Gent., to be Lieutenant ; I'. C. Lipyeatt, Gent., to be Eleutenant, Jan. 13 ; W. D. Band, Gent., to be Lieutenant, Jan. 26 ; C. S. Ellicombe, Gent., to be Ensign, Jan. 13; F. G. Young, Gent., to be Ensign, Jan. 26. First Devon Regiment of Yeomanry Cavalry-J. Garrett, jun., Esq., to be Captain ; W. Barnes, Gent., to be Lieutenant ; E. Trood, Gent., to be Lieutenant, Dec. 24. Commission by the Queen. Berwickshire Militia - Captain J. Cox, front the 92(1 Highlanders, to be Adjutant, vice Captain A. D. M`Laren, placed upon the Retired List, Feb. 16. Commission by the Lord-Lieutenant of Lancashire. First Regiment of the Duke of Lancaster's Own Militia—Captain G. (trod, to Le Major, vice North, resigned, March 19 Third Regiment of the Duke of Lancaster's Own Militia—E. Lister, Gent., to be Lieutenant; March 18; E. C. Moore, Gent., to be Lieute nant, March 19 ; H. It. Clarke, Gert., to be Lieutenant, March 20 ; J. E. errell, Gent., to be Lieutenant, March 21 ; J. German, Gent., to he Lieutenant, March 22 ; J. Worthington, Gent., to be Ensign, March 21 ; N. Gardiner, Gent., to be Ensign, March 22. Commissions ty the Lord Lieutenant of the Count, of Glamorgan. To be Deputy Lieutenants: —C. Bailey, Esq.; It. Fothergill, Esq. ; W. Llewellyn, Esq. ; E. Morgan, Esq. ; W. Thomas, Esq, ; G. Tur bervill, Esq., March 10. Royal Glamorgan Light Infantry Battalion of 31111tia—T. Fitz- gerald, Gent., to be First Lieut., Feb. 17 ; T. Place, Gent., to be First Lieut , Feb. 23; M. W. Harris. Gent., to to First Lieut., Feb. 25 ; 11. A. Goldfinch, Gent., to be First Lieut., Feb. 27 ; W. Lewis, Gent., to be Second Lieut., Feb. 28. Commission by the Lord-Lieutenant of Hereford—W. 13arneby, Esq., to be Deputy Lieutenant; It. M`Murdo, Esq., to be Deputy Lieute nant; T. W. Lane, jun., Esq., to be Deputy Lieutenant ; W. N. Kyrie, Clerk, to be Deputy Liutenant, March 19. lleretord Regiment of Militia—lt. B. It. 3lyrtors, Esq., to he Cap tain, vice WaLhanr, promoted, March 19. Commissions by the Lord-Lieutenant of Southampton. W. 11. Hughes, Esq., to be Deputy-i ieutenant; D. I'. Cunyng ham, Esq., to be Deputy-Lieutenant, March 6. North Hants Yeomanry Cavalry—J. Rivers, Gent., to be Lieu tenant; E. D. Allen, Gent., to be Cornet, March 6. Commissions by the Lot] Lieutenant of Aberdeen. J. Duff, Esq., M.P., to be Deputy Lieutenant ; A. D. Fordyce, Esq., to Le Deputy Lieutenant; J. M. Leslie, Esq , to be Deputy Lieutenant, Jan. 26. Commissions by the Lord Lieutenant of Suffolk. Western Regiment of Suffolk 31ilitia—The tight Hoa. F. W. rle.vey, commonly called Earl Jerilyn, to be Colonel, vice the Earl of Euston, resigned, March 20. Commissions by the Lord-Lieutenant of Wilts. Royal Wiltshire Regiment of Militia—W. Long, the younger, G' nt., to be Lieutenant, March 15. G. Gould, Gent., to be Lieutenant, March 16. E. H. Mortimer, Gent., to be Lieutenant, March 17. G. H. Goddard, Gent., to be Ensign, March 15. Commissioned by the Lord Lieutenant of Forfarshire. Forfar and Kincardine Regiment of Militia.—T. Scott. gent. to be Lieutenant; W. I'. Scott, gent. to be Lieutenant ; G. Lyeli, gent. to be Ensign, Feb. /7. Commission by the Lord Lieutenant of Perthshire. Royal Perthshire Militia—J. D. M'Gregor, Gent., to be Lieutenant, vice A. Stewart, deceased, March 18. Erratum in the Gazette of the 10th inst. Prince Albert's Own Leicestershire Yeomanry Cavalry--For T. J. Paris, Gent., to be Cornet, &c., read T. J. Pares, Gent., to be Ccr nut, &c. BANKRUPTS. James Giro, merchant, Moorgate-street, City, to surrender April 6, at half-past eleven, and May 5, at twelve, at the Court of Bank. ruptcy. Alsagtr, official assignee, Birchin-lace, Cornhill ; Great Win( pester-street. Charles Henry Waters, dealer in paintings, Queen's-row, Pimlico, March 31, at half-past one, and Slay 5, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Whitmore, otilcial assignee, Basinghall.strect ; Bur bidge, Hatton-garden. Joseph 'nonlpsol4 grocer, Norwich, April 7 and May 5, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Pennell, official assignee; Gillman, Norwich; Storey, Gray's Inn-place, Londe n. William Morphew, draper, Sevenoaks, Kent, April 1, at half-past two, and May 7, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Bell, offi cial assignee, Coleman-street-buildings; Reed and Langford, Friday street, Cheapside. John Perkins, jeweller, North-place, Gray's-inn-lane, March 28, at two, and May 16, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Fol lett, official assignee, Sambrook court, Basinghall-street ; Clark, Finsbury-place. Thomas Peirson. money scrivener, Warwick-court, Holborn, April 4, at eleven, and May 16, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Green, official assignee, Alderrnanbury ; Bell and Co., Bow Church yard. John Brett, sheep salesman, Luton, Bedfordshire, April 7, at two, and May 5, at one, at the Court of Bankrnircy. Groom, official assignee, Abchurch-lane ; Wilkinson, Nicholas-lane, Lombard -street. Richard E lis, carpenter, Richinond-street, Soho, April 1, and May 5, at two, at the Court of Bankruptcy Eduards, official assignee, Frederick's-place, Old Jewry ; Carlon and Haynes, Palace chambers, St. James's-street. Ann Abigail Innell and Alfred Cookes, varnish manufacturers, Little Queen-street, Holborn, April 7, at two, and May 5, at half-past two, at tho Court of Bankruptcy. Groom, official assignee, Abchurch lane, City; Stuart, New Inn, Strand. Martin Cubitt, builder, High Holborn, April 3, and May 7, at two, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Johnson, official assignee, Basinghall street ; Smith, Southampton-buildings, Chancery-lane. George Prince, wine -merchant, Romsey, Hampshire, April I, at half-past twelve, and May 6, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Bell, official assignee, Colemau-street-buildings ; Watson and Co., Faleon-square. William Bull, cloth-merchant, Leeds, April 4 and 2J, at the Leeds District Court of Bankruptcy. Kynaster, official assignee, Leeds ; Sudlow and Co., Chancery-lane; Lee, Leeds James Riding and James Fielding, cotton manufacturers, Leyland, Lancashire, April 4, at eleven, and Ar ril 30, at twelve, at the Man. cheater District Court. Hobson, official assingnee, Marcehester Millie and Co., Temple, London ; Winder and Co., Bolton. MMEI A. OURSE OF EXCIT_ Amsterdam ......C.F. 12 Dine, at sight ...... 12 6 Rotterdam .... • • 2U. 12 10 Antwerp.. .......• .... 2/5 15 ilamburgh .... • • M.B. 13 15% A1t0na.......... Paris, 3 days' sight 2580 Ditto, 3 months 26 6 Marseilles • • ..... ••. • . 26 Bourdeaux .. • • 26 15 Frankfort on Maine.... 122% Petershurgh, 3 U 5...... Berlin ...• . . • Vienna, effee.tio•••••• 10 ltili Trieste, ditto.... •• •••• 10 104 Madrid ..... 361 A Cadiz • ..: ........ 36% . . . Barcelona •• .. Eeyi11e............ N GE. - (THIS DAY.) Gibra1tar..........••.. Leghorn Genoa.. ........•• 26 15 Milan Venice — Naples .. Palermo, per mr. ..... 119% Lisbon .• • ..... 52% Oporto •• . •••.. • • 523 i Rio Janeiro ........ • • 24 Bahia . Buenos Ayres ..... New Fork, 2I days' sight Philadelphia .......... PRICES OF BULLION, PER OZ. Foreign Gold in bars X 3 17 9 Portugal Gold Coin 3 17 5 New lioubloons 0 0 0 New Dollars •••• 0 4 9% Silver in bars ...... • . 0 4 114 LATEST PRICES OF SHARES. IN BANKS, ASSURANCE, AND OTHER COM PANIES' STOCK. From Vic Official List, rIIBLISIIED EVERY TUESDAY AND FRIDAY EVENING LONDON, TUESDAY, MARCH 24. JOINT-STOCIC BANKS. Name of Company. Dividend per Amount raid. I Pri, Am . nun. Share. Australasia Britsh orth American Commercial of London colonial .......... Londn and Westminstr London Joint-Stock Metropolitan Provincial of Irela.nd • Ditto, New... National of Ireland .. Nat. Provincial of Eng. Ditto, New... .. • • .. Union of Australia .. • • Union of L0nd0n..... 6/. per cent. 51. per cent. 5/. per cent. Si. per cent. 6/. per cent. 61. per cent. a. d. 40 0 0 50 0 0 100 0 0 I€o 0 100 o 0 50 0 0 25 0 0 100 0 0 10 0 0 50 0 0 100 0 0 20 0 0 25 0 0 50 0 0 , X 5. d. 40 0 0 21 50 0 0 4 , 20 0 0 2; 25 0 0 11 20 0 0 10 0 0 1 , 7 10 0 25 0 0 if. 10 0 0 11 20 0 0 1E 35 0 0 3.5 10 0 0 25 0 0 25 10 0 0 12 81. per cent. 81. per cent. 51. per cent. 51. per cent. 51. per cent. 6/. per cont. Si. per cent. INSU: 'CE C, Dividend Name of Company. per Annum. advantage of obtaining the sanction of the other portion of the I egislature.. He believed that. the provision for public works was in the highest degree useful ; but even these, useful as they might b e , wou ld never alone have the advantage of giving an impetus to private enterprise, and of eliciting that commercial spirit through which alone sine thi eg like a permanency would lie given to enterprise in Ireland and the employment of capital for national improvement. F.. r these reasons he feared they must not flatter themselves that they would succeed in their present attempts to establish g, od order and peace in the country, by the exercise of the ord.- nary powers of the law. But the great object which they had now to obtain was to establish peace, and security, and con fidence, by the exercise of those powers, and not by the en forcing of temporary and arbitrary laws. He would now come to the special object of hie motion, and in doing so he was bound to say that he did not see, in the measu res w hi c h t h e Government proposed, anythi ng that was likely to produce this result. There was nothing in them likely to have the happy effect of producing unanimity, without the exercise of those streng powers which he was compelled thus to deprecate. He was compelled to say, that there was nothing which gave him the assurance that the ferment now existing in that coun try was likely to be subdued by the measures before their Lordships, nor could he hope anything better from the matters under the consideration of the other branch cf the Legislature. Wes there anything to assure them that in Oct. 1849 ; hey would be freed from the necessity, in order to obtain peace, from pass ing some measure equal y as despotic as that to which he had alluded ?—( H ear , h ear. ) H e wou l d assure the i r Lords h ip ' s that his conviction was quite the other way, and he thought the great duty imposed upon them was to ascertain what measures were necessary to obtain the object which he had laid before them. Let them compare the difference between England and Ireland, when some great crime was committed. In this country, if a mur der had been committed, and the culprit had escaped, the news papers, if the culprit were known, carried his description over the bre dth of the land—an hundred eager eyes were on the watch for him—all to whom suspicion could attach were taken into custody, hurried before tl.e magistrate ; and in this way it was that the real culprit seldom escaped. But in Ireland the popu lace did not interfere to secure the murderer and bring him to justice ; on the contrary, the whole body of the people were banded to screen and protect him, and to such an extent was this feeling carried, that the greatest disgrace which could attach to an Irish peasant was that he gave the slightest assist ance to the officers of the law. The character of informer, were the name attached in Ireland, was as much as a man's life was worth. What was the definition of the term in'orrner in Ireland as compared with the same term in England ? lu England informer was understood to mean a man who for gain, or for the purpose of obtaining a penalty against another, would lay an information for sonic infraction of the law, frequently of the most, light and venial description. That was the informer in England. But what was the meaning of the ti rm informer in Ireland? The informer in Ireland was a roan who dared to give information to the efficers of the law of the commission of crime. Their Lordships were told the other night of the extreme danger of giving evidence by the son or wife of a mats ho had been, perhaps, unhappily murdered ; that man was, per haps, dragged out of bed at the midnight hour by a band of hired assassins, and in the presence of his wife and child inhu manly and basely murdered, anal yet that wife or child, al though they knew the assassins by name—although they could well describe them—dared not do so, as, in Irish definition, they wculd be hunted down as informers. That persons, even under this strong provocation, could not venture to give infor mation to justice was most melancholy and alarming ; and it was well known that for the protection of witnesses in former years, where a man gave evidence on behalf of the Crows', in the case of murder, as soon as the trial was over, the Crown was obliged to allow the expenses of emigrating to the man, that he might leave for the colonies, as his life was no longer safe in Ireland.—( Hear, hear.) Their object must be to change this temper and deposition, and, he asked, had the Coercion Bill any tendency to do so? Were the severe provi sions that they were compelled to adopt, when endeavouring to suppress crime, of any avail, while the people continued im bued with the spirit he was endeavouring to describe? Were these severe provisions calculated to reconcile the people to the existing law, and to induce them to look upon the English as their friends, instead of as their enemies? This Bill was of a source like the dram of the drunkard, who, in the fit of intole rable depression which succeeded his excesses, knew that a teesh excess would give him temporary relief, and to that ex cess he applied. The fact was, that the measute would be some redress for the moment for the commission of crime, but it had no tendency to take away the spirit which caused their greatest difficulty in the administration of the law. That such would be the result was proved by reason, arid also by expe rience. Had not measures of greater severity been tried long enough (and without mush regard to the degree of severity employed) without effect ? He found, in a speech made ky the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of her Majesty's Government, in the year 1829, in introd uc i ng t o t h e H ouse t h e measure in which he proposed the removal of the Catholic disabili ties, the histories of the measures which had been adopted in Ireland. He said that, in the year 1800, we find that the Habeas Corpus Act was suspended, and the Act for the suppression of rebellion was in force ; in 1901 it continued in force, as also in 1802. In 1803 the in surrection for which Emmett suffered began, and Lord Kil warden was murdered by a savage mob. In 1804 the Act con tinued, and in 1806 the west and south of Ireland were in a state of insubordination, difficult to repress by the ordinary course of the law. In 1807, in consequence of the increase of insubordination, the Insurrection Act was increased in power, giving to the Lord Lieetenant the power of placing, by procla mation, any district out of the pale of ordinary law. It sus pended trial by jury, and made it a transportable offence to be out at any period from sunset to sunrise. It continued in force from 1807, through 1808, 1809, to the close of 1810. In the year 1814 the Information Act alit continued, and through the years 1815, 1816, and 1817. In 1822 it was again renewed, during the years 1823 and 1825. In 1825 a temporary Act intended for the suppression of dangerous associations, and especially the Catholic association, which was continued during 1826, 1827, and expired in 1828. In 1629 a new demand arose for the abolition of the whole Act—but he would not continue this painful history —only four years afterwards, it was again found necessary, a short time after Sir Robert Peel came into power, to introduce a similar measure of the severest kind. '1 hat measure, or at least a great part of its provisions, were renewed in 1824, and it expired only four or five years ago ; and now again, in the year 1846, th ey were called upon t o renew i t . Such was the result which experience showed to have been obtained by mere coercion. Such was the example they had; and if their efforts were used in the proper direction, they would be able to prevent, by rigorous measures, the commission of crime. They had the prospect of restoring real security to Ireland. He contended then that they must look further than they had hitherto done; that they must look to the root of the evil, and see whether it was not possible to change the temper of the people, to effect a reconciliation between them and their rulers.— , (Cheers.) To make them friends instead of opponents of the administration of the law. This was the object to which their efforts ought to be directed, and it was the object which, if the efforts to which he had referred were honestly directed, they should be able to attain. It was true the task was a most difficult one, because they had to erase from the minds of the Irish people the deep impression of long ages of mis-government—they had to convince them that their rulers had both the will and the power to serve and promote their happiness and prosperity. This was what they had to accomplish, and he should endeavour to show what, with that - aid, he thought they would be able to establish in Ireland. In the first place, he said, they must endeavour to convince Ythe people that the law really e x i s t e d f or their benefit. They 2 must amend the law both in its provisions and in its adminis tration, for both are defective. He was of opinion that the law as it is now in Ireland was quite inadequate, as it effected I the poor man. It was so more especially as to the landed tenure of Ireland. This was said to be the fact by the Secretary for Ireland. That Noble Lord said, that the state of the law as to the occupation of land in that country was the ~34 root of the evil in Ireland.—( Hear, hear.) fle ( Earl Grey) believed that injustice could take place under the 5 present state of the law, with respect to the 2 land question in Ireland.—( Hear, hear.) He should like to know from her Majesty's Ministers, whether there was any truth in a statement with respect to an affair at Roscommon ; Ice if the paragraph which he had read in a paper was true, it was most dreadful. There were, it was said, three or four hundred persons turned off their land, where they had been for years; they were turned out to starve without as much as a 4 place to lay their heads in. He trusted he was mistaken ;he 9% sincerely trusted that the paragraph was not correct. He be lieved: that a resort to such measures was most unjust. He 7ei 3 e thought that w h en a l ease fell out, to resort to such an extreme el measure was a disgrace to humanity —it was a disgrace to civi lised life. It was well known that whatever little draining - took place of land in Ireland was not paid for by the 5 3i landlord, but by the tenant. He did think it hard, that when poor men, who had toiled upon the land for years, and after 2, giving it a double value by the improvements of their capital and labour, that they should then ue turned off, if the land lord to whom they had paid their rent, had failed to pay it to his 8 superior landlord. This evil was to be traced to the practice of 9 sub-letting land in that'country. 0 A NOBLZ Loan—That is also the practice in England. , 6.34 Earl GREY—That may be the law in this ' coun.ry, bat it was well known. it was never acted upon to 6% anything Flee the extent that it was in Ireland. He 5% had heard of an instance o f a poor man who had taken 5 % half an acre of ground upon a plan that was called the conacre 3 system, for which he paid 91., and from which he was to derive 2 % patatoes sufficient for the maintenance of his family.—( Cries of 9% " Name.") This, he was informed, was a common practice in es. the county of Waterford. This poor man had a person over 5 him who got into arrear to his superior, the head landlord. ss. That head landlord, n o t h av i ng b een pa i d h i s rent, seised upon 4% this poor man's crop, placed a keeper upon him, snatched from 0 him the means of existence, and he would not be even told for 0 what or for how much he had been seized upon. But, in order 9 to ascertain this fact, the poor man actually committed an __ assault upon the keeper, in order that the facts of the case might come before the public. Now this was a class of cases which the law in its present state could not reach. Now, in order to remedy such a state of things, he conceived that the Govern- Ice. went did take a step which appeared to him the most prudent and injudicious that could well have been adopted. A measure of a somewhat similar nature was introduced by Mr. Sharman Crawford ; but was withdrawn, upon the understand- I ing that a remedy would be applied ; and in the next session the speech from the throne announced that a CommissEon had been issued for the purpose of making the necessary inquiry. Upon the debate which took place in February, 1844, upon a - motion of Lord J. Russeell, he ( Lord Grey) took the liberty of expressing his regret that such a Commission should have been issued, inasmuch as it would have the effect of creating exaggerated expectations in the o minds of the p eop l e o f I reland Eee that would never Le realised. he present increase of agrarian outrages was, in his opinion, t racea bl e to it. It had given rise to impressions among those who lived upon agriculture that they were no longer to be the tenants, but the occupiers of the , soil. He did nut mean to charge the Government with attempting to stave off the consideration of a difficult measure 1.. t by appointing this Commission. He did not mean to charge Se them with such a deriliction of duty, but he did charge them with an unpardonable imprudence for the manner in which 34 they had dealt with it. He said now that not a moment should aI be lost in taking the question up and dealing with it as l e the circumstances seemed to require, not in the spirit of technical lawyer, but in the spirit of statesmen—not to arrange the laws affecting civil property in an equivocal 'l4 is. and partial manner, b u t on t h e b roa d foundation of equity. A reform conceived in such a spirit was now absolatucly necessary, I s 4 and he sincerely hoped the Government would set about it. % It was not the mere letter of the law, which should be im proved, nor its technical provisions, but they must also improve 14% its administration.—( H ear , h ear. ) A Noble Friend of his, whom he regretted not to see in his place, had remarked that 6 he (Lord Grey) had gone too far in saying that there was one law for the rich and another for the poor in Ireland, but he would go still further and say, that not only was that the case, but that both were i.l administered. Since 1841 a change for 1 4 the worst had taken place in reference to this; less confidence was now felt by the people of Ireland in the administration of the law than before. This was to be attributed to the hot and eager, and virulent partizanship displayed by the Government i, in placing' the administr a ti on o f just i ce i n t h e h an d s o f men i, had not the confidence of the people. That practice also, whictr existed from 1835 to 1841, of excluding men from juries on account of their reli g i on , h as b ee n again tor more some extent revived. Any thi ng mere o bjectionable or improper he could not well imagine. Betterforthein suchto at an end to trial by j ur y a lt oge th er than to countenance r p e r f o o c r e na e di in i P t arti24 n administration, jury. gthe j u h r o y w w e a a e s r , f e a r n d b e a t t r e e r fo t r h m a n in a were not the only paints which required their consideration. As long as the Parliament which enacted the la'sys, and the Government which, enforced them, were objects of hostility and coutappt ) butted of repent and conidouce, eo hog wahl discontent and disturb ance preva il. Il e k new that 'n e j ing this opinion he was going against high au thority - 1,0 those who ima g i ne d t h at political diseontent was , ssfli tut b i l aV ferent from a grar i an outrage. All the cons i derat ion e ,rsi m had given to th e su bj ect i nduced him to say t h a t 6° 4 ,0 great mistake. He considered that a grar i a n outreees l ' il ;el tical agitation were essent i al l y connected. So I"ng 110 4 for the repeal o f t h e union prevailed .ca e ital would never into the count r y, and ccrnmercial enterprise never lake7 ss ie appeared to him impossible to expect political diiee° ;idle exist without exasperating the feeling of the people aO t a es ti law. The enforcement of the law should be the peat ° ? t ot. Government, but they could never brirg the people ta ' O . O O or look upon it with respect, until they induced them to to e in it. What, he would ask 'was the character of the crie' r ! res ol misted in Irela n d ? Si nce the melee which be had ,C 1 that motion, another outrage had been committed. ° a s ill. trate had been shot. The crimes committed were ne e t„ii/ same character a s th ose comm i tte d i n th i s country- 1 ' 4 ;0 not proceed from a lore of plunder, er from those r ootless tr io. generally p romo t e t h e i r comm i ss i on in other °ad They were th e wor k o f pr i vate com bi nat h ns ° b e cret societies. It must b e ev id ent, there f o re, t e el the rules laid down to guide the relationship between 01 1 sit man in that country were influenced by justice, th e o Ttle would soo n l earn to appeal to the regular tribtsea'° t hole country to remedy their grievances, rather than t° pith midnight legislators. He said that the desperate fidelltlirre which they cleaved to this kind of legislation showed a ari eree their tart to cliieg to those for whom they expscted r e s et of their wron gs . C aptain Rock and the repeal judegeessiobl obeyed ; an d so we ll too, that it was considere d by state s ee Lords as givin g ev id ence of the worst symptoms o f the of Ireland. D oes not t h e fact of their being so obeYenesstf that, where th e y can b e made to attach them ; e l ves , obedient and amenable to control ? A consideration e 1 5 0 circumstances led to the inference that to make tb e c e stO effective and well obeyed th e attachment of the people P oser' gained. While the co n t rary i s t h e case the laws will he„Per less, and a well or gan i se d state of society w n e. ror secured. He now thought that he had made out his Foil sition that political ag it at i on an d soc i a l d i sconten t were, chest connected. Noble Lo r d s m i g ht say, i n rep l y to tha"reeste down the re i eat agitation, th en mur d er an d soc ial dis t ?, 0 0 will be also supp resse d . " l' e f ore that such a pro ceedien e o attempted, let them recollect that that experiment ha' etes se already made, a n d no t w i t h a success which would eneu its repetition. Even if they were to try and put it d°! ° t : st o could only put do wn th e externa l man if estat i o n of ' B ald than too, by means repugnant to the spirit of the e b e re , Constitution, and a t var i ance w i t h the feelings a Engo. Let them remem b er , a l so, t h at the tendency of °t e s Ise ° attempt would be to alienate from their rar.ks a boll l eerti . (he ho p ed a l arge b o d y ) w h o valued const i tut i o nal i vi es While they kept a l oo f frosts th e repeal &Y i d the spirit whi c h perva d es the followers o f repeatentieg not be subdu-d. Th ey must l oo k t o ae" - fo rcel more effectual. They could not win men's hearts by of t they must win their affections, if they ever expected te ,grdi them well. It m i g h t b e sa id that it would be i rn possible go , this, or that nothing could turn them from repeal. Nay that House could more fi rm l y res i st repea l than himself. "seed, fismly believed that no u u i versa l d iscontent ever ye t pil es ' e sef unless there exi s t e d some grounds for it. The suffer ers be mistaken, b u t it was se ld om f oun d t h at a re dress e es e grievances eid not remove all complaint. An analosSee:_ tbd occurred in Scotland. A discontent more hopeful th r / ep el which existed i n Ireland prevailed there in 1713, on th e fo e of the U n i on w i t h this country. A motion was broug h . t t sro that House to di sso l ve th e U n i on. Did t h ey reject 501 everwhelming m a j or ity, as th e ot h er H ouse did the ScreP:sees of the repeal of the Union with Ireland, which he con_ sest ill would not find a mover or a seconder in that House? Or o ' o lf was 51 in favor of the motion, and 54 against it, and it :,- f ete't by a majority of four proxies that the motion was r fo ' e rtee t ; There were seventeen proxies against the motion, and stioa; in favour of it. Wh a t was t h e consequence o f t hat of ° sae Parliament set about remedying the grievances of 's e e yed and she was placed upon an equality with England M oo rs; constitutional right and privilege, and the consequeuse, sO° that all desire for dissolving the connection was renee/7 o rse he dish not believe that there was at that moment one oh; sae; in all Scotland for such a measure. Let them try t ais ee system with Ireland. Let them adopt a similar n't procedure with regard to her grievances. ' e e bad s grant such measures as Ireland would adopt if e cede Parliament of her own. Let them adopt the lange!, 4 , o o ol , use of by a Learned Prelate in his speech on the 1 ' 4 1 400 grant—" That they engaged, when they took the Fo re be lle r ei of Ireland into their own hands, to rule her as if she,. ye rs own Parliament." Let him ask, had they hitherto g b u ac re' Ireland in that spirit? Would an Iris's... Parliament !gige g : fused Catholic emancipation in 1827 ? Would it 1 4 %0, ouch a measure of corporation reform? Would it b ac : al in the same way regarding the registration of vetera,,, above all, as to th e tith es an d th e Ch urc h, that that Par'seee! had done ? Would th e i r l eg i s l at i on h are b ee n the , t ssit i That was the test which they should apply measures. He must DOW acme to that as c e sett i t i momentous question, th e s t ate o f t h e I r i s h r ee., He was well a w are t h at t hi s was a subject upon which ne t s Or meet with very littl e sympat h y from almost any Pa rt i i t ei ° House; but still he should follow it up. It was slot i ; e the year 1844, by the Secretary of State for the o , ° „e, th e partment, that in every attempt to legislate for Isola great difficulty which met the Government at every ° b oll every step was th e I r i s h Ch urc h esta bli s h ment ; and 1010: Government propo se d a reme d y f or t h e gr i evanc es of ;Val they should be p re p are d t o grapp l e w i t h t hi s diflicultP a i sty let him ask th e ir L or d s hi ps to cons id er w h at gas the re sop erll of the case i n thi s respect . Th ey a ll k new t h a t the P l oe tt° and revenues of the Protestant Church were originaPY t g r eetil to the Roman Catholic Church, for the; purpose of lust the mass of the community in that form of Christian s ossre which the people would alone accept that institutiornse et i the hear.) But, by the imperial and conquering powe r ° t ie country, those revenues were diverted from their origia i e ttos itt pose, and they were now at the disposal of a small ° e , In a debate in this House last year, a Noble Lord ; 1 7 0 stated, that the property of the Irish Church amouncefl.h 00.4, enormous sum of 600,003/. a year, the whole of %/tu t ' s; se applied for the benefit of 700,000 or 800,000 per/ aa :jgbtil s that such a state of things existed in a country, seven' `,,'s P of the population of which were Roman Catholics ; 1 0 0 Noble Duke opposite also stated, in the same debate, tha t e Or seven eighths of the whole population derived no ben"' v O lO B ever from this endowment. But his Noble Friend (the feet and Learned Lord on the Woolstack) had stated a uother Ire' namely, that since the Union, the Established Church it et el land had receiv e d annua ll y 595 , 000'. N o w, j us t l e t the J' t lb consider these facts we ll. Fi rs t, th e y h a d t h e f a ct th a q jtki minority of a la r g e p o p u l a ti on , cons i st i ng o f the W` fbe classes, had received a magnificent endowment. 0 ;11. 1 Presbyterians also, w h o were Di ssen t ers as well e'rela Roman Catholics, had lil ewise been cared for- e ellf them the bounty of Government had not been withheld: f;`' to the Roman Catholics of Ireland who were by far theh3e l in number, and to whose misery and destitution he e P os reP ready alluded, the Government gave no assistance Trn. de for The Roman Catholics build their own chapels, and prV irs the their own clergy, and yet these were the people for sfa ° , 1,1 1 Government had literully done nothing.—(Hear, hee i r !; to him ask, then, was this a state of things that was '1 e l prove satisfactory to the people of Ireland? Let thew e a u Cr the scene presented by a Protestant church and a Rl ose ilet tholic chapel in any p ar i a h i n th e sout h o f I re l an d on a T AP On the one hand, they saw, perhaps, the Protestant la $ core with, it might be, one or two of his servants, occup)''' ‘ ',g ie erre 6 nor in a comfortable building, and listening to the L' a t r os srt explained by a well-educated and well-paid fun% l es° On the other hand, a vast mass of the peoPle -- get of that portion of the people whose labour vileW its value to property, that portion of the people lre ta wst iet those magnificent grants he had just spoken off had be eu se eei a by violence and wrong—that class of people might he seit4 vast numbers, crowding the inadequate and miserable b , u r the which their scanty means enabled them to provide' . 4 . 6 etre worship ofthe Divine Being; and those whom its lirnie4 t ye t not capable of accommodatton might be seen kneeling:l3oli in hundreds upon the cold wet ground, Sunday after n tbb throughout the whole year. Let bins ask, then, W s , s tate House expect that a people so treated could bear seri% wide, of things wthnut feeling a deep rankling sense of gr' s he bs" tice ? But this was not the worst part of the caseeritb to make o u t. If i t were, and that they were cont en t fte tice having their p roper t y t h us wrung from them, an d that t s ' Off had bee n done them, in oth er respects i n b y-gone tirne;i, Ale might, perhap s , h ave l ess cause of complaint. But sae-r1 net the case ; f or i n sp i te of all this amount of wron g d e - fe lt ie jury, the Protestant Church still was only known at' en' Ireland as the cause of oppression and injury for the las or elg , tury and a half.—( Hear, hear.) These were Wong a ired,: he admitted, but n ot s t ronger or as s t rong as t h e c ase rl s e t treP because one portio n o f th e a d m i n i s t ra ti on o f t h e Irishinto —he meant the tithe system—was the most atrociont a ode quitous that ever ex i s t e d i n any coun t ry o f t h e world ; ld de' it was imposed upon the people of this country, there °ll flounce it at once as a y o k e w hi c h no peop l e cou ld br' is the imposition was den ounce d i n t h e years 1787 an d 1 763 ra ttael Irish House of C ommons , i n t h e b urn i ng e l oquenc e of who only asked for such a mitigation of this system as re' afford the people of I re l an d some tem p orary re lief. a t h t f ool quest was refused, and that ref usa l it was th a t drew ti ° him those memorable words, which denounced this tithe Is a nd as the worst la w th a t ever di sgrace d th e s t a tute h ( neole which called forth his indignant denunciation of the seas system of the E s tabli s h e d Ch urc h i n I re l an d. His mat e r esist' opposed by the Irish bishops, and it was their determ ine le entre alone that defied all his efforts, and which compel!" " Este' exclaim, with indignation, that to the Bishops of tb e , th e Wished Church in Ir e l an d was ma i n l y t o b e attrih e t;oo o defeat of every effort f or th e i mprovement o f the 'n n; N ig, eea l the people of that coun t ry . He ( . fitounced the *slaw e ce a ; as grinding and oppressive so the lase degree ; end ° e el on e r s eluded his memorable speech in words which few 0°- might be bold enough to use, but which he (Lord Grey) Ole; venture to quote, as the words of Mr. Grattan, 3° „Oa II were to the effect that it would appear that religion C.`' t e els be supported without enormous wealth, and that Chrl'en es not be represented upon earth unless Mammon tonh s l the the band.—( Hear, hear.) Well, then, with regard ° pare tithe system, it was only at a very recent period that a T el) scse r was passed for the partial remedy of that law, and 'l l rie: Balled the Tithe Composition Act, a n d w hi c h eventually er, ` to be no remedy at all. At a period still later, anotherot re nt Lord opposite proposed another remedy, but that as s h i Ist the people h a d t a k en i t i nto t h e i r own hands. Let "chafe' was this the mo d e ca l cu l ate d to en d ear the Protestant ythat to the people o f I re l an d ? O n t h e contrary, he ecoulaseisels of the whole system wa s ca l cu l a t e d to i mpress upon the 1 ; 00 iti• the people a deep and lasting sense of hatred and se er to the Establishm en t ; an d they never attempted fe e l s , a remedy , until a n agitation had been raised fle":: Sot emancipation in term s th a t cou ld not b e s uppresee% th e all measures of j us t ice were i nvar i a bl y refused ere' ground that the sa f e ty o f t h e Ch urc h Lstablishaten t ' a a fter land would be in danger. Did the House wonder, th . en . s ts' s this, that a deep-rooted feeling should exist against tn e eeg s blishmens ? He would ask them to judge of thee fee: yi p: the people of Ireland by their own. Let him ask th _ to ne Rev. Prelate the bishop of London, what his feeling o r oes be, if the revenues of his see were to be given for the tion of the few Roman Catholics it contained ? Let him to pose the whole case re versed, and that England was eu'orp the seine position as Ireland. Ireland t h e governing e o veg. lishmen bear with it? The answer was obvious; t re of ' Irishmen, and they should be In? a nd England the governed ; he would ask how long would we e h n ea o r t ts f . eel T t h h e eir m w th r l o e ngz iod deeP pe t e / rBo re i : argument applied to less than men bitterly rankling ferred to a debate in the House of Commons in the. Yea s r tie less in which an Hon. Member, a friend of his, declared: the ' d the the Government made some alterations in the sys Jon i b - 0 ,0 if at th ey the d i i r d Established Church in Ireland, they might give LT "' fa ce.' govern ing that country otherwi se t h an b y m ilit a ry ed the Hear, hear.) He (Lord Gr e y) h a d a l rea d y supe: ieg to ea se such as that of the reven ues o f a P rotestan t set., g' tase of the support of a splendid Cath o li c hi erarc h y. S u ch ' l 4oo' things would be a desc r ipti on o f slavery to w hi c h no 'obi° man would submit.—( Hear, hear.) He heard g the .e we re Duke opposite de c l are i n t hi s House last year, that th e eight millio ns an d a h alf of people in Ireland prof.'9'4l°oola Roman Catholic religion—that there they were, and tfsee liise d, riot hells their being Roman Catholics ; but, as thee' ° r iot/9 they should be provided for. He felt that he had irnr e s es ea; expressed his feelings as to the invaluable nature of t se w irre d sure, arid how imperfectly he had described what !T es t was monstrous injustice. Considering the state of Ireland, a _r' o usts undoubtedly a matter of extreme difficulty, and a in ut it eeti% indeed, have most overcoming confidence if he could,: with information, as an individual Member of that House, the out the assistance and advice of many others, contemPl7o at " a° 'ilatiafactim of the wintry. Al! be Trnkl now! possibility even of broaching this substantive measure Albion .............. &Mance Brit. and For. 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(1. 600 0 0 100 0 0 100 0 0 . 50 0 0 50 0 0 100 0 0 100 0 0 50 0 0 50 0 0 1000 0 0 50 0 0 20 0 0 20 0 0 Stock. 100 0 0 500 0 0 100 0 0 100 0 0 100 0 0 50 0 0 25 0 0 25 0 0 100 0 0 50 0 0 20 0 0 100 0 0 60 0 0 20 0 0 00 0 0 5 0 0 Stock. .£ s. d. 50 0 0 7, 11 0 0 5 0 0 5 0 0 5 0 0 2 10 0 10 0 0 5 0 0 5 0 0 150 0 0 2 0 () All paid. 3 0 0 36 10 0 4! 50 0 0 241 10 0 0 11 b 13 1 21 10 0 0 51 20 0 ( 12 10 0 It 12 10 0 15 15 0 0 10 20 0 1 2 10 0 2 50 0 9 2 0 0 2/. 1 0 0 11. 10 0 0 2; 0 10 0 615 0 J 1 31. 10i 6 per cent. 61. per cent, 13s. 6d. pr sh. 7s. per share 5/. per cent, 31. lON. f 5 per ct., & 30s.bs.j 51. per cent. 53 . 4 per cent. 51. per cent. 61. per cent. 5/. per cent. 6/. and bonus) 12s. - li. sh. & bs. U. ss. 10s. 10$. 5/. per cent. 4%1. per ct . 51. per cent. 91. per cont. 51. per cent. 3/. p. ct. & bs. 51. per cent. 11. ss. 51. per cent. 61. 103. 11. 63. 10N/. pr cnt 100 0 DOCKS. Name of Compaay. Dividend j Amount per I of I raid. Annum. Share. X s. d. X a. d. Commercial , East and West India East Country Landon 51. pr cent. I Stock. 116 St Katharine ••••• • • • 5 per cent. I Stock. 10431 Southampton ••.•• • • • ' 41. per cont. ;50 0 0 50 0 0 30 LIST OP SCOTTISH COMPANIES' PRICES Dividend Amount Name of Company, per of raid. I Price Annum. Share. •--- 4 a. d . Bank of Scotland Royal Bank of Scotland 6/. per cent. 100 0 0 159 British Linen Company Si. per cent. 100 0 0 224 Commercial Bank National Bank 6/. per cent. --. 10 0 0 14% Union Bank of Scotland 7%1. pr cent. 50 0 0 93 Western Bank . .... • North of Scotland Bank 61. per cent. 50 0 7% Clydesdale Bank.... • • 6/. per cent. 10 0 0 13% Eastern Bank 5/. per cent. 10 0 0 111 4 Caledonian Bank ••.• • 7%1. pr cent. 210 0 434 Edinb.& Glasgow Bank 6/. per cent. • 50 0 7 City of Glasgow Bank. 51. per cent. 10 0 0 13% Scottish Union Ins. Co. 51. per cent. 20 0 0 1 0 0 245. Hercules Insurance Co. 71. per cent. 100 0 0 10 0 0 14% Incur. Co. of Scetlnd. • Si. per cent. 10 0 0 All paid. 95 4 North British Incur... s'/ 1. pr cent. 200 0 0 10 0 0 27% Caledonian Fire Limn 10/. per cent.'loo 0 0 10 0 0 24 . Edinburgh Life Incur. 61. per cent. 100 0 0 12 10 0 18% Edin. & (Haag. Railway 1/.los. pert. .50 0 0 50 0 0 7314 Ditto, 14 Shares •• • • 7s. 6d. p. a. 12 10 0 All paid. 18% Edin., Leith, & Grantn 20 00 20 0 0 171, Ghtsgw & Ayrshir Rail. 5/. percent. 50 0 0 All paid. 71 Gimpy & Greenck Rail. 21. per cent. 25 0 0 ill paid. 19 Glsgw & Garnkirk Rail. Si. per cent. 25 0 0 All p a id. 41 Dundee& Arbroth Rail. 6/. per cent. 25 0 0 All paid• 29 4 Standard LifeAssernee„ Si per ce n t. 1 50 0 0 210 0. 8 IMPEftIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, March 23. STATE OF IRELAND. Earl GREY (in continuation from our Third Edition of last night) said—Ever since the union large sums of money had been provided by the Government for the completion of Irish works, but he believed, nay, he greatly feared, that much of the money which had been granted had been to a very large extent jobbed.—( Hear, hear.) He did hope that the mea sures which might obtain the sanction of that House—he did hope that those measures, would have the effect of providing more than mere temporary advantage--should they hrre the MARCH 24, 1845. ~:~.