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Ort would to 'in theleodlleatiatiof tthe none, that when the Bill of last year was passing dtroughs Committee, he proposed clause which was adopted by the Government; and, as he believed, with a sincere intention of acting upon it. This clause appointed the Sinking. Fund Commissioners to be trus tees for the sale of the pensions. Such was the only proper way of proceeding, for the transaction was nothing more nor less than a loan of public money. When the Government found that the plan of selling to public companies, would not succeed, he proposed this in the most friendly feeling, and thought they -would act upon it to back out of their situation. Would any body suppose that the Bank would do what they ought not to do—lend this money without an expectation of profit ? Would any other persons do so ? It was because there was an un -doubted profit to be derived from the loan, that he would give that advantage, whatever it was, to the public, by the means he •recommended. Upon these grounds he should resist the mea sure. He would not consent to give to the Bank those advan tages which they had the means of securing to themselves.— There was another view of the subject, which he begged ear neatly to press upon the attention of the House. By this Act they would depart for the first time since the year 1694, from a }principle laid clown in an act of William and. Mary, that the Bank of England should have no dealing with the Public Funds. The Bank would certainly become dealers and jobbers, not meaning to use the word offensively—in the Funds, if this • measure were carried into effect. He moved, as an amendment, that the Bill be committed that day six months. Mr. ROBERTSON supported the amendment, and la mented that the measures of the House, with regard to loan transactions, always pressed most severely upon the Landed Interest. Mr. fIALDIMAND opposed the motion for going into the 'Committee. • Sir F. BLAKE supported the Amendment, and contended warmly that the measure was a positive .contradiction to the principles of the Right lion. Gentleman, that there could be no Sinking Fund which was not actual Surplus. lie,described it as being— .-- A monster of such frightful mien, " That to be hated needs but to be seen." Mr. HUME said, he should like to be informed by the Right Hon. Gentleman what would be the situation of the public at the end of this transaction. He contended that it was any thing but beneficial to the country : Ile had also to remind the House that there was a chaise in the Bank Charter ex pressly stipulating that that Company should not speculate in the Public Funds. It had been promised last year that these Annuities would be sold publicly so as to invite competition ; but they were now made a private job. The public would lose a million and an half if the Funds should rise, as there was `no doubt they -would ; for their present depression was occa sioned by an apprehension of war. The whole arrangement gave the Bank an advantage over the public, and Government ought therefore at least not to have made the contract for a period beyond the year for which the money was wanted. Mr. ;MABERLY said that' the present contract made the Bank, for the first time, purchasers and sellers of stock to an enormous amount, and thus enabled them, by bringing that stock into the market, very materially to affect the price of the Funds. :Whether the principle which occasioned the prohibi tion in the Bank Charter against their stock-jobbing was right or wrong, it was of little consequence to discuss; but as the principle still existed in law, a departure from it ought not to have taken place without a strong necessity to be satisfactorily explained to the House. He thought the Sinking Ftind should, in the first instance, have had an opportunity of mak ing the bargain. As it now stood, he had ,no doubt it would lead to many public disadvantages. The CIIANCFLLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that public competition had been invited to this subject in the course Of last year. It was found that the matter was too Momentous to be undertaken by private individuals, and the treaty was then opened with the Bank on the express ground that individuals had declined embarking' in such a speculation. Mr. MABBERLY and the Crra?CEt.r.onof the EXCIIEQUER. mutually explained. Mr. BARING thought sonic reason might to be giyen why the Bank were turned into a great Stock-Jobbing Company, notwithstanding the terms of their Charter. He had no doubt that the present was an improvident bargain, and would be attended with great loss. Ile thought the transaction was a delusion to deceive the Country Gentleman on the score of re mission of taxation, and to deceive the public creditor on the score of national faith. People of the most opposite politics were agreed in opinion as to the imprudence of this arrange. ment, and he really hail hoped that the Chancellor of the Ex. chequer, with that good sense which distinguished him on all occasions, would have yielded to the general impression. it must require a case of strong necessity to justify the putting I of the Bank in the situation of Stock-Jobbers, and he saw no such necessity made out'in the present instance. The whole transaction was, in his judgment, absurd and ridiculous ; and in point of time, it was made moat improvidently, when the Funds were at so low a price as 73., occasioned by a tempo rary depression. Ile was determin ed to give the measure every opposition, and should therefore vote for the Amendment. Mr. opposition, said, that most of the points in the speech of his Hon. Friend who had just sat down, were proper to be urged last year rather than On the present question. They went entirely to the principle of the arrangement, and that had already been adopted by Parliament. The question was not now upon the principle : but whether a certain contract with the Bank should be ratified. With regard to the objection which had been taken by several Hon Members, that this transaction was a Tartlet violation of the Bank Charter, he would observe that if there was any weight in the objection, it was rather singular that it had not been taken last year. He did not see, however, that it was necessary for the Bank to become buyers and sellers of Stock under this Bill. They ought, and perhaps would divide the Funds among their own Proprietors. Many years ago the Bank had subscribed for what was called the Loyalty Loan; and no objection had been made on that occasion to their being dealers in Stock. Indeed if the letter of their Charter were strictly adhered to, it might be doubtful whether the Bank could advance any Loan. Then with respect to the observation of his Hon. Friend, that the contract was made at a time when the funds were disadvantage ously low, it could not but have occurred to his lion, Friend, that every pecuniary arrangement must he made with reference to the particular circumstances of the time, and that there must always be some such circumstances to induce the .tlifferent con tracting parties. The bargain, in the result, might prove ad vantageous or disadvantageous to the Bank or the public. At present it was impossible to decide; but a bargain more favour able to the public could not have been made at the time in question. Mr. GII.ENFVI.I., Mr. ITUSICIBSON, and Mr. lIALDIMAN, severally explained. After a few words from Mr. J. MauTtl; the House divided, when there appeared : For the original motion - ufi For the amendment - • 44 Majority - —ll The House then went into a Committee, in which some ver bal amendments were agreed to, after a few words from Mr. 011ENFELL and the CHANCELLOIt of the EXCIIF.QUEIt. The House resumed, and the Report was ordered to be received o Monday. SUPPLY. The Order of the Day was read for the House going into a Committee of Supply ; and the House being in a Committee, Mr. GOULIIITIIN moved a vote for 17,0001., in aid of the Charter Schools of Ireland. Mr. HUME complained, that several Returns for which lie had moved respecting the state of Ireland had been made, al though he conceived. there had been ample time for that pur pose. tic wishedito know whether any reduction in the ex penditure of that country was intended by his Majesty's Go vernment, as it appeared to have increased every year since the Union. He thought that Parliamentary interference with - charitable institutions seldom did goad, as the money applied to their assistance was generally expended on objects foreign from the original purpose. IVidi regard to the specific vote • before the Cormittee, he dissented from it altogether, as it was confined to the education of Protestant children. He fully appreciated the advantages of 'education among the poorer classes, but he wished the system of education to he uniform. He saw no reason for confining it to Protestants, seeing that a majority of Midis oro.7ths of the people of Ireland were Ca tholics. He much wished -to see exclusive establishments for education entirely put down, and the money applied to general objecn‘ He did not object to the stint in question, or an sum for a general purpose,. but he did object to the sum of 17,0001. ' foi the education of Protestants exclusively. He should there fore move that this vote be reduced to 10,000/. though he would have no objection to a vote for the other 7,0001. to give Catholic -children the benefit of education. Mr. 001MBURN said, the arguments of the Hon. Mem ber had all been urged and answered on former occasions. The establishment in question was not confined to ',purposes of edu ' cation. They were principally charitable purposes, and he could not admit that because education was introduced inci dentally, and that education was in conformity with the Protes tant religion, that it was therefore objectionable on that ground. Food and clothing were the principal objects of these institu tions; and their fund had alreadybeen much contracted. Ile con tended, that where there were such institutions already founded, they ought to be assisted by Parliament. Many reductions had been made since laSt year in the different branches of- expendi - tore referred to by the present vote. - Sir J. NEwrata was of opinion, that if the funds appro priated to different charities now scattered in various directions were taken into the-hands of 'Government, and consolidated, fiar the purpose of forming one central school, touch benefit would result from the arrangement. Divided and subdivided aq the sehoobt Were at present, with masters to superintend each separate establishment, the most extravagant expenditure was incurred, while the least possible benefit was severed. — The establishment now under consideration, had undergone much alteration for the better, from what it was twenty years ago, when the system acted upon was one of perfect intoler. , ance ; when children were sent away from their parents'under different names, anti taught to hate those of another religion. Though much good had already been effected, he thought an important improvement might be made by acting on the sug gestion which he had thrown out. Mr. GOULBURN stated it to be his intention to look into the subject from time to time, with an earnest desire to ascer tain whether the present benefits could be obtained at a di minished expence. How far he might be able to succeed in this, he could not now pretend to determine. Mr. MONCK wished to know why this Charity was to be supported by means of a public tax ? Why could not the Pro testants of Ireland educate the children of their peer by volun tary contributions or other means, as in this country, and every other country in Europe. He should support the motion of his lion. Friend the Member for Aberdeen. Mr. HUME explained what he had previously stated. He thought it unfair that 17,0001. should be thus expended for the benefit of one-seventh of the people of Ireland, while less than that sum was applied in a like manner for the benefit of the other six-sevenths. He thought it would be desirable to dimi nish the expence of this establishment. He wished the number of children limited to 1,700 instead of 2,000, and was disposed to withdraw the Amendment lie had moved, for the purpose of substituting for the original grant the sum of 13,0001. intending in a future year to move a further reduction, till the vote should be brought clown to what he thought it ought to be. Mr. GOULBURN said, he could not acquiesce in the pro posed reduction. Mr. GIIATFAN spoke in favour of educating the Catholics of Ireland, as this, in his judgment, afforded the best chance of improving their condition. Mr. HUME repeated, he objected to this grant because it went to give 17,000/. for the I*iiefit of one-seventh of the popu lation of Ireland, while a smaller sum was allowed for the re maining six-sevenths. With this feeling, under all the cir cumstances, he desired to withdraw his original Amendment to substitute for the grant originally proposed, the sum of 13,000/. The original Amendment was then withdrawn, to make way for the one last proposed. The Committee then divided on the Amendment— For the Amendment - - • Against it - - - Majority . The original Resolution was then agreed to. The next Resolution moved after strangers were re-admitted was— £l4,ooo to defray the expence of supporting the Society for the promotion of Education in Ireland. Mr. HUME xemarked, that some of the Societies in Ireland were diverted from their objects which they had had originally in view. The society for discountenancing vice in Ireland, like another vice society, had thus changed its purpose, and applied a portion of its funds to the education of children. He thought this tended to prove the correctness of the views of the Right Hon. Member for Waterford as to die propriety of consolidat ing the charities for education, so as to form one central school. He did not oppose the present Resolution, he only wished the money to be well applied. After a few words from Mr. GRATTAN, the Resolution was carried. Mr. GOULBURN then moved a grant of £27,672. to the Dublin Foundling hospital. Sir JOHN NEWPORT made a few remarks on the rules of the Hospital, with respect to the non-admission of infants at certain periods of the year. Mr. Secretary PEEL said. the Hospital had formerly been very humanely kept open through the whole year. But it was found that many infants were sent from remote parts of Ireland in the most inclement season, so imperfectly defended against the sold, that a great loss of' life was the consequence. It was therefore thought necessary to decline receiving them at all in the months of January and February. Mr. HUME wished to take 7,0001. from the grant, which he thought ought not to exceed, 20,000/. Mr. GOULBURN reminded the Hon. Member that a re duction of 8,800/. had already been effected in the present year. He thought it was ofmaterial importance that the num ber of children should be diminished before a further reduction of the grant took place. If this were not done, a number of unfortunate children would of necessity be exposed to starva tion, for whom, it had been understood, that a provision had been made. Mr. MIME had no wish to expose the children at present on the establishment to starvation. What he desired was to prevent more from coming in. Mr. 11ONCK was glad that fume feeling bad been mani fested against establishments of this nature. Ile considered them to be a sort of advertisement for the production of illegi timate children. The more numerous these establishments be came, the more numerous would' such unfortunate objects be found. This was seen in France, where great provision had been made for foundlings than in any other country, and where, as lie was informed, scarcely a servant girl could be met with who had not been the mother of two or,three children. The resolution was agreed to. The following grants were then moved ' £19,000 to defray the expence of the house of Industry, in Dublin, the Asylum, and Hospital. £4,9f10 for the Richmond Lunatic Asylum in Dublin. £7,900 to the Hibernian Society for Soldiers' Children. £1,600 for the Hibernian Marine Society in Dublin. £1,930 to defray the expellee of the Female Orphan House in Dublin. Mr. HUME objected to the last resolution, (the preceding ones having been carried) on account of the exclusive character of the charity which it was intended to support. Ile thought the public, as a public, since it could not make a provision for all the poor, ought not to undertake to support any. Mr. GOULBURN protested against the principle, that be cause they could not provide for all, they ought to relieve none. Mr. HUME did not mean to propose that individuals should not relieve distress ; but he considered partial relief, given at the expence of the Public, an injury to die whole community. Mr. DAWSON thought such charitable institutions were necessary in Ireland, in consequence of the customary absence of the great landed proprietors. In this respect he called upon the House to mark the difference between the City of Dublin and a metropolis which possessed the advantage of a resident Gentry. He supported the motion. Mr. GRATTAN was satisfied that no establishment could be better conducted than the House of Industry in Ireland.— lie could not consent to reduce the grants for any of the Irish Charities. Mr. MONCK said, the poor ought to be maintained in every country, but they ought to he maintained by the rich. It was mischievous to compel one part of the community to relieve another. This was seen in our Poor Laws, than which nothing could be more humane in design, and nothing more injurious than their operation. The moment the public inte r f ere d, there was an end of private charity, and selfish persons were fur nished with an excuse for refusing to assist the unhappy. Sir J. NEWPORT defended the grants for Irish Charities, as necessary, on account of the peculiar situation of Ireland, where 3,000,0001. in rent was annually raised to be spent in this country. Mr. Secretary PEEL denied that the remark of the Hon. Gentleman, that private charity ceased where the Govern ment of a country interfered, was at all applicable to the pre sent case. He believed there was no town in the world where charity was more prevalent than it was in the City of Dublin. —Besides the peculiar circumstance remarked by the Right Honourable Baronet, there was one other circumstance which made these grants necessary. The City of Dublin was the place which annually witnessed a great confluence of poverty, as the labouring poor had occasion to pass through that city on their way from different parts of Ireland to this country.—. He had frequently officiated where demands were made on pri vate charity, an d on such occasions he had known 6or 8004 to be given after a se rmo n. It was thus that the place of the poor laws was supplied. Mr. HUME said only one charity in England, the Refuge for the Destitnte„ was supported by a Parliamentary grant, and lie did not see why the Irish charities should be supported by the public. If' individuals came here to spend their rents, did -they bring their Janda with them ? What was to prevent them front sending their subscriptions for those establishments they wished to support. Mr. DAWSON restated what he had previously offered in defence of such grants. The Resolution was carried. The following Resolutions were moved and agreed to. X 2,600 to defray the expences of the Westmoreland Lock Hospital in Dublin. £2,800 to the Dublin Lying-in-Hospital. £1,400 tceStevens' , Hospital. J:3,692, to Defray the expence of the Fever Hospital in 'Cork-street, Dublin. 4:300. to Cover the expence of Incurables in Dublin. .t. 0,921. for the Roman Catholic Seminary in Ireland. The following Grant being moved, £2,000. to Defray the expences of the Royal Cork Insti tution, Mr. HUME wished to know why an institution of this kind should be kept up in Cork, more than any other place ? If it were proper that lectures should be given at Cork, those by whom they were attended ought to pay for them. Sir J. NEWPORT said he was responsible for the original establishment of this institution, which was not then intended to be permanent. Such being the fact, he was not answerable for its continuance. Mr..GOULBURN stated the establishment in question to have hien continued because it had been found highly benefi cial. The lectures of the Institution had proved extensively -27 useful, not only to these who were capable of educating them selves, but to the ordinary classes of society. Sir J. NEWPORT believed the lectures Thad been found highly useful. • Mr. HUME said the reason given for supporting this Insti tution would apply equally well to the establishment of one of the same description m any other manufacturing town. The Resolulion was agreed to. The next grant proposed was that of 7,0001. for the Dublin Society. Mr. HUME said last year he had taken the sense of the House on this vote, considering the sum thus appropriated to be money thrown away. He had since made further inquiries, and was convinced the grant was made to very little purpose.. He understood. the house of the Dublin Society was a place where persons met to read newspapers and periodical works. He wished to know what important publication had proceeded from it since last year. Mr. GOULBURN said, the. object of the Institution was not merely to prepare new publications, lectures were there given on various subjects. There were six Professorships and as many Professors, who lectured on Chemistry, Mineralogy, Natural Philosophy, Botany, and other subjects. Many im provements in the Sciences which were the subjects of the lectures, had been made since those lectures were given, so that their beneficial effects were generally felt throughout Dublin. Drawing and tkulpture were studied at the Society, and many distinguished characters could be named who owed their flist advance to the instruction which they had received there. Two young men were regularly sent to Rome at the expence 'of the Society to study the Fine Arts. Maps of par ticular districts had been made under the directions of ,the Society, and in a variety of ways it had been the means of benefitting all 'classes. Mr. HUME described the proceedings of the Society to be of the most childish character. Of several which had come to his knowledge, ,he could find but one that appeared sensible, that was a discussion on a tithe-question. It seemed that the Society rented ground which produced them ill. in a year. It had been proposed that st: should be given to the Clergyman for tithes on this land. To this proposition an amendment had been moved, the object of which was to give the Clergyman a tenth of the produce. The original proposition, however, was carried. Ile moved as an amendment that the grant should be reduced from 7,0001. to 3,500/. intending, if he succeeded in this, to move that the whole should be reduced next year. Mr. R. SHAW defended the grant, and described the 5/. stated by the Ilon. Gentlettian to have been paid as tithes on land producing 01. per annum, to have been in point of fact, given as a commutation for tithes on a considerable tract of land which the Society held. After a few words from Sir J. NEWPORT, Mr. HUME with drew his amendment. The next sum proposed was 9,2301., for building Churches and purchasing Glebes in Ireland. Lord A. HAMILTON objected to the principle of this ap plication of money. He considered that the Church of Ireland was already overpaid, and the service worse performed than that of any other country. This sum must come from the taxes of this country, for the revenue of Ireland was inadequate to dis charge this and its other expences. Mr. GOUL BURN observed, that the Noble Lord was wrong in supposing that this grant was to pay the Church of Ireland. He thought the Noble Lord would find it difficult to :thew that the building of places of worship ought to be defrayed from the pockets of the Clergymen, and unless he did so he could not oppose this Resolution. The Noble Lord had convinced him, by what he had said of the Church of Ireland, that he had never been in a Church in that country. Lord A. HAMILTON alluded to the non-performance, and not to the ill-performance of the Church duty, in what he had said of Ireland. Sir J. NEWPORT thought himself bound to oppose this grant. The higher members of the Irish Church ought, in his opinion, to defray the expences of church-building, and re pairing out of their revenues. Ile stated as a fact that they ought to be ashamed of, that within the last 15 years three Right Rev. Bishops had left to their familes no less than 700,000/. This was not an attack upon the Clergy, but on the contrary, that which was calculated to uphold them. • It was a fact worthy of notice, that there were many hundreds of acres of glebe landin Ireland, on which no glebe hoititehad been built: This was an evasion of die law that that House, ought to frustrate. Mr. HUME could not but dissent faunathe statement of the Right lion. Secretary (Mr. Goulburn), that ; the,Clergy of Ire land fully discharged their duty. Every thing was in the power of Government, and it was therefore useless for them to say they had done all they could. He should take the sense of the House against the grant altogether. Within a short time no leas than 700,000/. had been consumed in this way, and they had no ac count of how it had been applied. Mr. W. SAIITH thought that this country was much more interested in this question than tho sister country, when we were called upon to build glebe houses in Ireland, and the real friends of that Church would refrain from agitating this ques tion in the English Parliament. With all this, however, it ap peared that the number of Catholics in Ireland were gaining ground upon the Protestants. Mr. GRATTAN corroborated the statement of his Hon. Friend (Mr. Smith) as to the increase of Catholics. Ile thought It much better to both parties to abstain from these discussions. Mr. GOULBURN assured the House, that this vote did not spare the incumbents of livings the necessity of building glebe houses. It was intended to give them the public money to do so in the first instance; obliging them, however, to re store the amount by after payments to the general fund, from which future issues were made. After a conversation, in which Sir J. Newport, Mr. Banker, Mr. W. Smith, Mr. Goulburn, Mr. Robt. Smith, Mr. Hume; Mr. S. Rice, and Lord A. Hamilton, participated, Mr. BAN KES observed, that this appeared tan be a grant in the nature of a loan, no part of which ever came back to the lender. It appeared that the returns made to' these grants went to create a certain fund—if so, there must be a consider able sum in hand upon account of that fund ; and it ought to appear to . that House how the money had been appropriated. After a few observations from Mr. Aloswic, the Gallery was cleared for a division.—The numbers were, For the Resolution - - 43 Against it a. Majority On the estimate of 10,0001. for improving the streets of Dublin, Mr. HUAI I.: objected to the voting of that sum. Mr. S. RICE also opposed the vote. Mr. Secretary PEEL observed, that the old Legislature of Dublin granted sums for the improvement of that City, and it really was essential that the inhabitants of Dublin should not feel that the removal of the Legislature would prevent the im provement of the metropolis. Mr. S. RICE did not wish to oppose the' legitimate claims which the City of Dublin might have on die Legislature. Mr. HUME thought the sum of 4,5001., which was more than the old Irish Parliament granted, would be sufficient. He accordingly moved an amendment for the purpose of substitut ing that sum. The Amendment was negatived without a division, and the original Resolution agreed to. £2,500 was voted for defraying the expences of the Farming Society in Ireland.—.E3oo for the Royal Irish Academy. £5OO for die Commissioners of Charitable Donations and Bequests. Alr. AIA BE RLY opposed the grant of 19,9311. for defray ing the expence of the Trustees of the Linen and Hemp Manufactories in Ireland, on the ground that so large a sum was unnecessary. It was proved before the Committee on the Linen Trade, that the bounty given to Linen Manufac turers in Ireland was contrary to the spirit of the Union, inas much as it gives a bounty fur the exportation of Duck and Sailcloth, to the injury of the manufacturers of' England. After a few observations from Mr. Gou Lim itN, and Mr. S. Itteu, the sum was voted. The sum of 1,6171. was then voted for defraying the expence of the Board of Works in Ireland. £17,301 for defraying the expence of the Stationary Depart ment in Ireland, &c. &c. Mr. BROGDEN reported progress.—Report on Wednesday. The other Order s oldie Day were then read, and the House adjourned at Half-past Twelve to Monday. ' A LIST OF THE MINORITY WHO VOTED FOR stn. JOHN* NEWPORT'S MOTION, " For the Valuation of the First Fruits in Ireland, and for their proper application to the purposes fur which they were granted." Abercromby, Hn.J. Frankland, R. Pakenliam, on.R. Baring, A. Grattan, .J. Pelham, .1. C. Barnard, Visct. Griffith, J. W. Phillips, G. Benyon, Benj. Hamilton, Lord A. Phillips, 0. H. Bernal, R. Bill. Lord Arthur RiCardo, David Boughey, SirJ. F. Hughes, W. L. Robarts, A. W. Burdett, Sir F. H u me, Joseph Shelley, Sir John Butterworth, J. Kennedy, I'. F. Smith, J. Caulfield, Hon. H. Knight, Robert Sykes, D. Colburne, R. Lushington; S. 'Talbot, R. W. Crompton, S. Macdonald, J. Wyvill, M. Davies, T. H. Martin, J. TELLERS. • Fergusson, Sir R.C. onck, J. B. Newport, Sir J. Fitzgerald,lAordW. Ord, W. Rice, T. S. MINORITY On the Motion for reducing the Vote from £17,000 to £13,000, for Protestant Charter Sillools, with a view of adding £4,000 for the use of the Catholic Schools. Baring, A. Hume, J. Whitbread, Sam. Bernal, Ralph Lennard, J. Wyvill, M. Blake, Sir P. Martin, John Wood, Alderman Grattan, J. Newport, Sir J. Hamilton, Lord A. Palmer, C. F. Hobliouse, J. C. Smith, Wm. TELLER. Monck, J. 13. PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS. HOUSE OF COMMONS. Veneris, 11 0 die Aprilis, 1823. ROADS—Great Staughton—Bill read a second time, and corn.. mitted. Surrey and Susses—Bill read a first time. Wel lingborough—Petition of Charles Pinfold, Esq. against to lie on the table. Stockbridge—Bill read a third time, and passed. GAS LlGHT—Bristol Oil—Petition from the Bristol Gas Light Company, and Commissionels for Paving, &c. against; Bill read a second time, and committed. - COURT Ho u sr.—Forfar—Bill read a third time, and passed. SuoAß—Petitions from Penzance and Arbroath, AGAINST the equalization of the Duties. ROMAN CATHOLIC CLAIMS--Petition of Inhabitants of Ul verston and other places, AGAINST; to lie on the table, and to be printed. SCOTTISH WHlSKEY—Petition of Spirit Dealers, , and other Inhabitants of Berwick-upon-Tweed,for introduction thereof into England, subject to a moderate Duty. COAL DUTlEs—Petition film Barnstaple, against the Du ties on Coals carried coastwise. HACKNEY COACHES—Petition of Owners and Drivers of Hackney Coaches and Chariots, complaining of Short Stages; and desiring a diminution of the number of Hackney Coaches. SMALL DEBTS—Petition from Ilminster, respecting the re covery thereof; referred to the Committee on Small Debts. MESSAGE' FUOM THE LORDS—That they have agreed to Uckfield, and to Stroud and Bisley Roads Bills, without amendment. TURNPIKE RIDAns (Scotland) A . Bills read a second time, SWEARING ACT A3IENDMENT 1 and committed. VICTUALLING CONTRACTS—Account ordered, "of the se veral highest and lowest contracting Prices, by the Victual ling Office, for Wheat, Flour, Beef, Pork, Butter, and Cheese, from 1790 to.the present time." ORDERS OF THE DAY FOR MONDAY. L Weights and Measures Bill-Further consideration of Report. 2. Joint Tenancy (Ireland) Bill-Second Reading. 3. Occasional Freeholders Bill-Second Reading. 4. Apprenticeships Bill-Second Reading. 5. Charitable Loan Societies (Ireland) Bill-Second Reading. 6. Customs Duties (Ireland) Acts-Committee thereupon. 7. Union and Intercourse (Ireland) Acts-Committee there upon. 8. General Turnpike Act Amendment Bill-Second Reading. 9. Quorum Magistrates Bill-Second Reading. • 10. Sheriff Courts (Scotland) Bill-Second Reading. 11. Commissary Courts (Scotland) Bill-Second Reading. 12. Forgery Bill-Second Reading. 13. Union Duties Bill-Committee. 14. Holyhead and Howth Harbours, &c. Bill-Second Reading. 15. Military and Naval - Pensions Bill-Report. 16. Supply-Committee. 17. Church Rates (lieland) Bill-Second Reading. 18. Ways and Means-Committee. 19. Turnpike Roads (Scotland) Bill-Committee. 20. Swearing Act Amendment Bill-Committee. NOTICES' OF MOTIONS FOR MONDAY. 1,21 r. Secretary Canning-To present Papers relating to the late Negotiations, and to explain' he policy of the British Government therein. 2. Mr. Goulburn-Irish Miscellaneous Estimates. (In Com mittee of Supply). NOTICES GIVEN YESTERDAY. Friday, AprillB. Mr. Lushington-Miscellaneous Estimates. (In Committee of Supply). Wednesday, May 21, Mr. Sykes-Repeal of the Duty on Candles. PRIVATE BILLS-SECOND READINO9 for MONDAY. 1. Drybeck 1 nclosure 7.lNewcastle and Illyth Marsh 2. Workington and Cocker- Road mouth Road 8, Newcastle. and Eecleshall 3. Barnsley and Grange Moor Road Road 9. Worcester Improvement :. tonrd Dublin on l hewers.,'Taxation, MONDAY. a three. 4. Stonnall and Ca s tl e B rom - 10. W orcester B r idge with Road • 11. Manchester Waterworks. b. Bermondsey Roads 12. G range R oa d Lighting 6. Darlaston Road 1I • PUBLIC COMMITTE ES I 3. 1. Small Debts, at one 2. Foreign Trade, at one TO CORRESPONDENTS . 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Peruvian New Loan, 00. Bank Shares £2l ss. Six per Cent. 00-00. 'American Five per Cent. 95i-97. Three per Cent. 70. -.11.- french Spanish lil«il WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE TOMORROW. Morning, 28 minutes after 3. I Evening, 411 minutes uftei 3. THE SUN. SOLI N QUIS DICERE F.ILSUM AUDEAT ? LONDON, SATURDAY, APRIL 12, 1823. We have received the following important in telligence from Paris, proving, not only that the French Army passed the Bidassoa on the 7th, but that on the preceding day, a part of the French troops were for the first time engaged with a small corps of the French and Italian refugees who have taken up arms, in the cause of the Spaniards. Though this body of the foreign auxi*iaries was of course defeated and dispersed, it augurs well for Spain that they even ventured to place themselves, unsupported as they were, in contact with the French lines. From the conduct of the French soldiers in the affair, and the manner in which the passage of the Bidassoa seems to have been effected, there appears to be no reason to expect any immediate or extensive symptoms of defec tion in the invading army. The new War Mi nister, however, still harps upon the continued attempts to corrupt the fidelity of the troops, which he would scarcely have adverted to at the moment of triumph, if they were not of such a nature as to give him considerable disquietude. After all, the most powerful means of corruption will probably be found in the hard fare, hard marching, and hard fighting, which we trust the .French will alone experience, after they shall have penetrated into the interior of Spain. " PARIS, APRIL 10, FOUR O'CLOCK r. Intelligence has this morning arrived from the Army of Spain, dated the 7th. The Duke de Belluno, Minister of War, who is still with 1118 army, has transmitted one dispatch, inclosies another, giving an account of the passing of the Bidassoa by General Guilleminot. His Royal. Highness had sent a bulletin, which arrived yes' terday, containing the account of his arrang ments for entering Spain, and a pro-gramme Of his first day's march. Some of these dispatches have been to-day carried to the Legislative Chambers, and there read. The following is an account of what took place in the Chamber of Deputies:— CHAMBER OF DEPUTIES—SITTING or Arum°. Before the opening of the sitting the Mster for Foreign Affairs, and Viscount Dijeon, charged with the War Department, enter ed the Hall. A n umerous group of Deputies belonging to the right side surrounded them. They conversed long together, and appeared pleased. At to o'clock the sitting was opened. The Minister for the War Department r ose ( 3 lively sensation) and said—Gentlemenr—'kli efforts to stop the course of t he faction ifhicil governs the Councils of Spain having proved fruitless, Monseigneur the Duke of Angoulerne received orders to pass the fr ontier, and on the . 7th of this month crossed the Bi dassoa at the hea d . of the army. I have now, Gentlemen, to r d to you the first dispatch which the . Government has received from the Maj or-General of th e Army. " 310 xSEI_ G w_. E l head" n,l I h U la a ii : i : t i e, StesStt3..in honourth edtoemrlooerpnotains, git;:riliour, 7 ' , _ Excellency, that yesterday, a troop of French and Italian f ilt. fugees made their appearance on the Bidassoa, and en dee : voured, by songs and seditious cries, to instigate the soldiers os his Majesty to desert. At the sight of a piece of artillery' tbe'e wretches cried ' Viee rartillerie Francaise, !' General Wsii" replied by another cry, thus--' Yes, Pre rartillerir, bat Vlve le Roi ! Fire l' At this very instant, a compthaello4 9th Light Infantry, which had been masked, tlebouchea, °II completed the dispersion of those whom the graPolmt he spared. by " Thus the troops have manifested their love for die liing something more ex • tions,-- Ya rn , Excellency expressive will find annexed the surnroarY of th i t w o nation of four wounded men who have been Picked up; a ish give a R just idea of the pitiable auxiliaries whom the Sp 0 t evolutionists have chosen, and whom the Imperial Regimen_ Alexander in garrison at Irun have in a manner delivered up.we slaughter, as they withdrew their pests before the arrival of til , refugees on the banks of the rivcr. A few moments myth e; fii th ght, all the inhabitants of both sexes assembled toge ther ' ca n, e communication between the two ICngde dis Was lin° " Inn ln in th h e " nu als m o b " The Alcade of Irun has even informed us that ately established. / n erial conspiracies. A f f o a r l t le :i t , a ico n n d Delamotte, already im P ileatea -It it. 4 Alexander Regiment has evacuated that city, and that the lite l aerbaonftlotztisd Fdoonyt,asrarvibircit.iro, who Are 000 r eig ht k o i a l i l n ed ed and four severely wounded, are recognized din Poyeral burst el n ral.' die hovpterftrayVh expectedlain i v s oeecimioc continued r ognnf t u t t : o n i i t tw i fh te ui After the reading of this Dispatch, ueannueo, 10 G e d : tt l ol L a bal L e ‘ E ' br liarr:toOikTirrAlti corrupt °lie- T e al 00 5 0 cries of " Vine le Roi ! Vivent les ilolbotn, \ precaution taken some time ago by sores This first intelligence would justify, if n eCessarY' tile r ot. France th eir fidelity. They have worthily replied, a° the - n- {OO D eplan i j i.n e t: o pe n tyhu atwettiohrieen,rtKcaueirtlitnenehgde, bdawlpoolaitoohnsdestithteo3lo.:lyinfikirilificersportgboltoo4::e:iens:i.), ._paternalou sentiments, even for his guilty children, ea nPn e a in will s heo were treason alone could have placed it. his rec o. n the heads of the instigators of the dePlertth e i iy lotion us of Spain. In conclusion, Gentlemen, everY th . iell t ,"bic ( b wegoreason to hope that this pest is going to end. Sp - i d to succour, already recognizes us as her liberator° ,allies." r, I T of Thus ends all that was . said in the sil l ' - ' , „ of the Deputies. While the Interim Dlin'sr be r War was . reading this dispatch in the Cho ° f .., war ° of De • puties, M. de Villele, the Non'"" pro' Finance and President of the Council, hod tch ceeded .to the Peers to read a similir dig* 1 f the from the Duke de Belluno. The disPe te ' l e eV Marshal, which enclosed that of Gilletninot./9-0( tamed nearly the same facts. 'file hullB,,tritiglay, his Royal Highness, which arrived the u p was not read in either Chamber.. Ne ithe6 'll e ' bably, the whole of those of Belluno or °I minot of the 7th. e tri. The Minister of War descended fro violent (es bone, amidst cries of " 'Vine le Rot Bourbons !" the a The Duke of Angouleme was to sleeP ° t wee Bth at Iran ; ou the 9th he will advance arches or four leagues, and will proceed by short ta,.. ge to Tolosa, where he will arrive on the :I.tltifo t he will stop there some days, to wait 3 l it , e9 9 of effect of his entry into Spain. The 51°wIs'sity of his march is said to be owing toe! he nece ii . to allowing time for all the materi of the ar‘ oratwet.tntthesen join. - 011 1 ' Guilleminot's dispatch was addressed t° shal the Duke of Belluno, Minister of VV I ree to bore the following preface 11 15 11 1 e 4 ; ne ss, by order f his Majesty, des'r:oS dis• t ran smit to your o E xce llency t he f o llo w l