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would friend, , . thithnt RR now 00 the ih' Oultiers of the land.holderi by t h under ConsideratiO ' fie had seen- the day . *heath { landed interest wn. ould nut have listened for a moment tolhe'proposal of- such ,a .Tax,. but - be ought nor, perhaps, to besno'san gu i np , in his,exped , clans, when h e reculleied that at leabt a amity of the Upper House w teen its ennobled dttrng the , seven. , years .Adtpioisttation of - the,.Right I lon. Gen, : *roan. , He might,' *ton perhaps, h e to ld, t h at i t was --', g t° set up the commerci'al , and la n d e d- i n . Witt- in opposition to each , other. On same tees `Mons tat,ions he conc eived-it to hr mos t p roper . ,On , ;t i on ni e he trusted that .Qet-oleen of the letter descrip, would lift themselves up above any mean par. ,7 tonsi4eration, 'that by 'their vele of - this ' night t.b!Y•wsutotaeriuirethe confidence 'of the - Natiob, 1 !in!thont which it viould be impussibie to, bring 19 happy the perilous eon tes't in which we were nalird., If that confideoce were brace g ained, we tillitri.then contotand 'ail' , 'the' Willin inergiew: of thane rl„,',l°,wet 'WA triighT: be :41,4i1fe1l Inf (their vigorous iOns,to the, g r e a t , Calls, UnakkriPYed° ,) Y . .any , ,lingeislii4thiglit arise.: - We might' then be ' enitited 740nYintetili iationg of E utope -1 / 4 6tIrtylkun we . 7le ttentiorfutio;aiptraiion . that iiishey . - a " -Iniitoee . • I '" .an ;entered i i ir .,,_.... ~,, ~tsot 1, ua, ..they wooldenter into . „,.. i Tom with, c''Aeople i)ined diand'io hahti, ce tt to heart 'a d d -- ' ' it: '' with 1 'lite and h it dr ~, n etertntne*. tb Oose lotto Y P„: - 9 , .rt4itiri. - blood the attempts of the most. , . -Its tne.most ml 'e' ,- --1 ' on-iiiin. tipled E ii i,',. ' i ,,lt. . 1 . 1 1 91 J &) AciFiqe:ploSt ~.1, ... f ree ...i cm that ever assAiled.a icrem,,genertnn, ,k..,et agn_lnallipy. people, H e toncl u aa by' moving 71elnth .0 t h e Aft . ' !, - - ' . • ii.ak, ~ air-ZLOR . ripIb#:34IVCRE4U•ER tite led . ':that, a w . eeottss h ;- .1 .Y stwill,pirs, 7 o tilie:'lpiAcal4a. rtleattu7TtiVllits pop. Cieutlemanfitrred to the "nit - ii'O,i t i / h c + ll ..;i:Pos . the - 6 * O 4 1)1:-A . :of 'eonsidiiat ion, Dint illi t i„„'l' no 4 mea Ili liisiifttetition' 111 'follow if .at iii7kthytitgli :the : ytttiOus.yztOpica . whic h ,; . cOonetfe t i ':lf ?nkY. 9 )ll4 ter , ciliy.. , arid.,, it e mdieti intlei„;; flet t ti .. , it. He Wiriad, however, beg the On the „ r Y i .i the . HOtiie While he said ii'liiii' words Ittle , .e..; t e i L t tli,e -.Of'', his . 'speech.- .Thr •Flanotiii tertei n : o 4`l ll l 1)4 a Illappr mode: , 0 suppotOg which a i t ,ll , l4l l sing .io the mind's of l?,inpponents„ , 1 48 canven°4o' they never ,did pass 't here,' yet it , It stivo hoi4telit fotihim io'make the suppaition; a 4, Imagilmagine .he IMMoolate purpose.. He hi,d eho,sen to ne ,s,avf'..considerable surprise aud indigna., h t oye the' I: of Adminiitration when fortvi - t d,;? l . l C, of 'the' Motion that he.' had sbteloglit , 1 hi plioll w 'oti ' ev'ening. The. first niitice of that 11 mated 4 " ';iv„eo vut of doors ; when it was ..1 tubjek vta 'rs . toO lidos!, all he recolle&ed 'on the tlattiqi ntis t ? 0 4; 1 'it was . received with 161E1 ac `,', deotly e i r°9lGentlemen on the other side,. evi red i n the P r efsiO; this sentiment, that they con,cut tionie6lertyricty of th e M ot i on of which their . i on raken'tk"lend gave notice, al t h oug h t h ey had ' *tel t othor. il * . tfouble• t o support the 'argume n t s o f , Tiiii°illhad o nourable F rien d ,. the fate of whose ' that on th i t iwthen,been de c ided. I t was strange %Ml .. ' ilt°CC asitin 'during the Debate, the Hon. titian hi , ' ore ils , d hakes .notes ,for the evident .purpose ~ Werth & i lead neat; o,:re 'argtiments of his - Honourable rstm ee; _ e 'firm ! , hut was preyented by the inter. nlenor.l a far indiscreet mediator.' l'he Gentle , iih t i' o 2... l oth er; side ' seemed io hail the orris ..c,, eati 4 under the propiticiu s banners of the-.1 - lott. IttA,ll. / . /n ; 4 .'Llie , all that he recolleaed on the Mi. w ho ! I ''ide 'Of the FI ' 1 ' Islightest' •teil o f- t:-. . oule was cw t t he ex. to '• . sur r i ,, , , , teeeitii. P Ise, hot .a, declaration of readinesi e e o .„ ip ,;', l e u ,'"i')P. 6 Y ivil.thset,er it might he prti. 'c e j %ai l 61, 1 9 P191!lcenient of his speech The Hon. '""! etilLi r• - • - r Palpt many CottiPlitnent s to the Hon. rt i s 44,4 4 t ‘ l ,lle ,Wish'ed hejiad a , 'riglit to call him ill,! ,'!tend;'oPposite (Mr , VrtinFrAht), hitt the „SooiZA i ri-l' A P.i)f his speech entirely did away the . i . tire's- • i recurttegi tires of the 'pre'areibla: • He' first; admi. '. ni, 141),,,APkate the lull (he tilob '.GrimtleM,Ws or ) and '" . • •• '' dole . , then availed hirmill'of every 'l-sible pi a , . I ' l '. el . Z' r ip'. e°q!rrin atid eipOse his opinions.— Gt . , 3 tlof .... " t rialllc`, 4 '"euta") piine!pie of ,that. 1 - limnortible ,ilt ~/ 4 1 4; . t i nat 'oh which he built 'his sYstein g - was, A I , ?I!, th q tio,t's. i ttlit • . 13e , siniformity of. liVtrce.. , -. ' e lsie s. p.""P. p6n . t)efilan' Whi'a'ad just' sat thiwn larticiis:Pt "elate Stich a varlety of Fdre, and ,Oth er coi;Y. Approvea of the. Voluntet,rs, •wisicli the 0 . 1 t45t41 1 11 1 ,,14 ai iliel),:trie of the MO iiaty Defence . . 1 1e't the Hon "Y r 'fluchowever openly 11.0 this /sill). had cont. Gentleman who had spoked tonight tititii , ~ ralifted that 74 - ,-. oviiiq . i =AT:- t3 enticrttan, he ioxild : . i t i ° . " .NEh ' it e d Y ~e?nti.'4dia iiiin'rn,,r-e-.,0' iceopiii, ifyt"' hc,. 1 ) , , , ,i L ~_ "et the .:,_!'"Ielt; The auginentation of ihe Mi. L.lrtent ,fih:Tretineor reduetion - ofit,- the tAablish. ,4 ia isinit;P n 'viintial c a val r y , and the-.first'plan l utee tv iV t h o'parislies, Wert ,all measures' in_ fP t b 1, 44 44 , i n 'tat Utorioural)le <3 ,, Ttle . ifian Mr. l leik r2:1'444- se..cr,..VM7 at War. if Gen_ c* year ; 4 1 . 11 . part. in :neinidea: tithich,.. after -a e tl P t t i ly eviLlntelitY pretend to decry .as the Source of on st b e vir .-Cilaktience..of the,,,4.Q.,14...1.1101) ti .Po llarai nti Y tt. 4140. lessened. .It . 'was unfair and 4 caliiiie,,,Y t°•Consent to iern4in ii Member, 4ft std i and titer, Which certain measoree, " ye t i 14° ' lie,!Pvards, a nd ~ t ) taint to the' I:ftiOse .sotne years kllviest abuse g 11 0 those very tneasurcs with' the z 1 hart cite hono ur o f j oio • . ~ 14,1 i * In one single year, 1796, l ie eit 4t I Qt ru i et , , . Ing with that flo. 11 4 , th ree , 114 n In brining. into Parlia. t i fr,r ot iholie total." raisl,,, ~.. , reprobated measures —The pt I , t4 ,rt . g t h e h ji l,,. often in Parishes, that for Au iiZoito nid C` .. ",t r tit, and that for Establishing the %744 114 i r ::;i': S T '; 'With regard to the numerous , tatipourable Gentlertfan's Si..teech, !le tt - °ul d notlf. lelf:s._(l,t(l. di s - `'° o o ll l , e of them after he had endea. lik ai w theh 1;,4 p os e this 1 the merits of the question it tehell,,)! t h is tli i i : ,. l , h l e Tis it, or is it - not, right to question was flirt, whether wh e v i x , ps4 at i on '"e t cl , . to; full exteni! kns%i , eied I: tt a i so 4 'hie4 stn . e i l , ) lt 11.4 41 been founded on . 'it.-- th,... cj a 4 tltr t: . , i ..,. :du received the . iiiritiO n of the vf ,..' 4, i s 4.15.. ontinuanee, if not proved ink :):readiii, r .11)0r,e ii%eltil than its repel'. lie 4 ' v i er'v. td i "In that legitimate 'l" a+4, 4 -tr krn t at the (glary to 11 ) .,, '44'4 . hied, AO w,as the ' which, it . I .. ti . ' if) the ~,.„,. , supply l '. ~' 44 ottittary, I+ °tee of the Country. wlii,_... ,man ha d 1 4,', 4 ; tthisiVi fa ken .a, great deal of pains to 4 nci hail •' ' g ri t () t not - tti be COnverted into 1,4-04:0115etu0,ii,:i14m,,,,...,ed,th0t such acornmUlatiOn WAS l Akii . to .IrlW. ; I U this ins indat ion.' his- answer i ritC st -ifit . " C ' .4"'l nev e r ` (li r , 'Hi h. d ' e Bal l ti t1ttint.14,4.114 ' A "" 4, ci 4 tu t i l ~.,f, r.g9,eki nisi it - would. be enti„... e vvretclied wa - ;: . II d ' T' ,-. I 'e -Joao, b.. . ., .„ : ),,,..a U 0 tg ), • t i • 7 g ettl 'k 130 titii, I 4 , iitpipliy"44 blc to 1- . raising men . in - sonieother way: 'This - wceald indeed . , be a thost . paltry sehione. It watt one he had always disclaimed. It vvieS'an invention of the Right Hon. : pentletiiln's'invn brain, for the purpose, ,no +Juin, , of•endeaveuring 'to make the House lose si!it of those arguments which lie Wand himself unable to refute. HC claimed the suppOrt of, the House to the Ad only as far as it had effect as a military measure. 'lf it once lost that charaaer, no man ewriirld -fie more willing to agree to its repeal than himself. A 4 tO thepenalties,of the Att, they were milder than 'those of its, predecessor, and as mild as any thar could be introduced in a new one, unless we ate:Ahmed all. extraordinary measures, and left the increase, of the Military Feree of the Country to the' usual' - mete 'Of recruiting, which, on ,all . hands, had been allowed to be insufficient. Wili . reg<ird tt; 'the` i)peretion of ' this Ad, 'it had. not cOrnmeticed until Ncivenibere the feel) of No. vember, when Recruiting Officers were sent to make . up men in the Parishes.;; If he. were asked why Ole delay had taken Ohicee he would -answer, that this • was another euhjed i ,and therefore ought not to in. . terfere with thetpieeera' one, but be reserved for another di#ey.ssion.' ''Weimustionk'at the Act with !a view to the period that_ haS elapsed; not since its !beini passed, but since the Coitineencement of its operarion. In three"mOoths the number of men ;raised was little short of two , Imedred per week. It' `ailvteßeed,et least to Arne hundred and eighty-fiee per week ; and at this rate, which had continued for three . months,, nipe or ,ten 'thousand men wotild . !lie raised in the . jef:e'Wate this a measure, he would ask, which, przma fade, ought to be discard. ed't The • Honourable Gentleman had asserted that not one man Ard.been raised by ,the Aft, and that it was only cateula`ted twproduce fines and not men. He had depreciated it in -comparison with other measures of a iiiiiiler nature. Let the Ho. ' nourable Gentleman fairly compare it•with any-other scheme that .had burr' -proposer !eticl he would be compelled to confees that the increase made by it to I our MilitarreForce was considerable ; l'n increase r 1. neatly egleelik.ilutabdieloew.hat..welepe.odueed..byeall. ' t the, recruiting for the Army, and which therefore dearly tfoubledilie recruiting power. li'diele to be ditifid - an inefficient' Measure' ? It he 'stopped here; if he seikeheteas the, lionse had thought it necessary • to! Dave . recourse .to , etr u nger measures than those . • C.;thrriorily used tni - reetuiting the Military Force, liet 4 e4a o a 'meainree'ewhich; on the experience of three,months, 'pfilmittedetie double the, number raised. by recruit i n g , it would :surely be enough .to joduce the HUOSe to make 'a further trial of it. It wound,. . . perliapi; be said, that there was no conclusive .proef thateuch weruld.be the continued number ,pioducede That was true, but the circumstenceshe hed, Tent ton e , , ed amounted to strong,presumptiee epool . , I3et th e circumstances of the case did no Alto 'here. if the result of: the measure were less :fitkrourable dim) ' it had been, would. the Hoe. Gentlemereolay that ' that would be conclusive against the measure ? The . . result might prove the exrdations of the" pro.. , posers to hav e b een toe sanguine ; but who would assert that Abe criterion of three months' NNiis sta. dent to determine the. probability of the suceess.o the measu re , were i t p l ace d on a . p e rma n e nt footing i Let Gentlemen 'call to their recollenioe the ' ins. tense call.-on the population of the Country prior to the cots mencement of theoperation of the Ad.- 7 , Just beforeehe War broke out the Militia were bal. lotted' for ; irnmediately after the Supplementary Militia were raised; and then came the Arsny of Re. servei.sQ•that in Gteat,Thitain alone AbOve too,coo erten had feeerieaised in the short space of a year and • a half. Uhler these circumstances, would any one say, that if the 'tneasuie did not secceed, three months after . such an extraordinary .drain; it would. therefore not' succeed at .all I One of ,the .. • great obstacles to the success of this measure was, the enormous bounties which_ the embodying the Militia and the Army of Reserve had occasioned 1 . foe could it be expeOed, while the memory of those large bounties was fresh in.the minds of men, that the' moderate bounties Offered by this At would have sufficient influence tO induce thetn to enter into ,the service ? In proportion swore time was given for those great bounties to be forgotten, •might be The e4peltaiion of procuring recruits by the mode_ . rate bormilet.' This was certainly not dettfonstrable, but svelte was the probability. It wail, thought . wise, in. the first itistance;eo supply the deficiencies in the Militia and the Army of Reserve. The opt. ration had 'gone Mly."Io this partial extent, anti' war thus etinfintd to places where there existed the great. ;at alifileulty el well : as 'the timeliest probability of success, as they had failed to,procure the men under the •Army of Reserve Ael,which imposed higher pe retties than theka now under conside ration. Anodic"' etre.ng circumetance was, that great extortion had been, us.el., ..he knee', fronyMetives to depreciate anti to predid the compietefailure Of this Act. It had been induSttiotAly•clreulated in thetountry that it had been carried by a small majOrity, and that it segelel, in alleprobebility, be e . repealed. Is that e ; way! to give a fair trial_ to the . measure ? „Haig *different would be the effect` Were Paella punster() skew that they Were determined to give a fair : trial to' it. There , was .autether coneideree. !ion. which ought to be taken into theyealculation' Of the' probable result of t he A6.f - if plaCed on a permatient footing. It mitigates tee penalty an parishes if :they raise their fullAeota of men, which, they had _failed to do under the Anne :of Reserve . Act, and a long period had elepsed since the eh. forcetnent of any penaltiee under that Att. ; It was obvious, therefore, that the measure' had not yet been fairly tried—thepresumptionwas e that greater success would attend alarther trial; but'the success that had already attended it, was, he trusted, suf. ficiently great 0 ieduce the theise not to part ~ with an Art by which our Military Force had been so much . enlarged, unless some 'othee. preferable' mode were laid before them. Suppose, that it had not fully answered the purpese of an - ittenediate increase—was that exclusively the argtnnent urged for ittr ''adoption in - the first inexiniceiee4V - no , tneens., e .N e er. was it ,urged in opeosi tiej.ti ~ to the Atme. of Reserve Act. He hed.e brotight it for w ird, not as 111330 ' 1'0V lila tflAt Axle; ellt 4 e' Origi. nat principle' of 'which met with his warmest ape." itrobation,. hut to COOfliCiatt;'ill .It/tp, degree,. an . .. e evil,._ winch attended the execution of that Ad, ! nareigkeilieepeHtirl9p----aTa-ir,pran-rea-with -1 OC:rtftiiitittie - fou'ili,it t ' , I - Array ,. it i` 'A r e i t l , ~ . , , , 8),t? K „., 4 , (.,, .....eiCesstye bounties . that this enropetition Occasioned. l i So:farlrotu condemning the lkrniy of 'Reserve Att, be thought it bad-rendered essential service to the ,1 c.::otintry, by its having procored thirty or forty th(iti , ,,4141 men; hut the presen(Ad Was more lenient in- its operation, and less adverse to the regular Re. cruiting. He certainly had thought,- 'that by the exertions of the Civil Officers in the different Pa. rishes, by the inierferenee of Gentlemen whowtiuld" interest thethselves in'procuring niep in, the'different Districts in which they possessed influence, and by their -local activity, that all- this would generate, and that greater effetis would have been produced by :this At even than what had taken place; but-when had he argued 'on this' as certain ? 7 -He certainly 'had 'stated, and he had- stated it with tratft, that •Atiministration, by the -introduction-of the measure, !liati,given a much greater chance for beneficial - conSeqtiences than had been 'afforded by the other • -Sidi of the House. " •The former had offered souse. : thing, whether great or small, more than the letter.' He had expressed his opinion lasuyear, both befote and after he came into' office . , • that the whole mill. tary force of the Country -Was•-nearly sufficient, and that it was the disputable force 'Which ought to be iticreased. He had' never pledged hiniselt, (bar this .Act would. cause Any greit'augmentation of the whole military.. forte', although perhaps he .might_ . . , have been more sanguine than the event' strictly !justi4ed 3 but as hew:is convinced that if established :on a : pet:Mat-tent footing, it would-be infinitely.more ‘.produCtive titan it had hitherto been, hefelthimself Viand to support it. The, assertion . Which he had made - was, that in'Great Britain nine' ;thousitti'd: ' men Would' be raised in -`the. course of they year. . N owithstanding the contemptemus- language anti i gestures Which . the Hon:' 'Gentlemen had - . - ,t4 ought . ;fit to' pie, he firmly 'believed that he had . neter looked but at the outshte either of the 44- os ut the tfirctiinenis ' On the -r-able. . The Hun. Gentlernan I asserted; . that he ..hatl prothised to the vOonelty , eightYt'five- thousand men in the year . ' Now, had' 0 the Hon, Gentleman, As he certainly otight to 'hove , done, - ,inspeCied 'ill'e - Pipers 'before he :One-de-his' speech, he• , , , Liula have 'ltaind that this nutiiherWasi to' bespinduced , gradtially; itt tour or live years', .as the; MilLtiAdirninished, • The Honciirable Geolle . man had affeted to 'i've Viiii -credit for his -ni;,de ration in 'protitising Only . - 9Ood men in the sti'..e..e. quint years ; but the'faa. was, that in the i firs year, as in the subsequent trout, the nomber , lre had men._ tkised was only . 906. It was tObr Wel ItOwever, 1 to CoMmuniCatc tlini i`ntormatien to the tion.'Gen tleman ; but; he hopM,it wit, not too late to•afrird it to - the . House, in wh,;:li he rtusied there WAS not an individual :: a ut.hly ignOraio oPthe . subject as . not _ instantly. `to, perceive the fallacy of the • -Hon. Gritletnan's-sraternent.• , :When he ,hatl,proved,'fbat the ine.iistire ba' produced ,three.fiturths, Of. What WA, expected from it - as a permanent, measure, was that the mennent to abandotrit ?,4 - fie scarcely ever re... membered-so vehement and au-peremptory a-call on Parliament,' 'so - ill attported bylafts aud'arguments, as that/of the Honourable .Gentlemao. : - The ob.; jett of - ohis 'Att was not alone, to increase the Mili. tary Force of -the. Country,:but,iby. diminishing , the high bountiet, to- - give.! greaterfacility- tothe regular recruiting.' , What. etieet had it had : On the Recruiting for the Army t The (too, Gentleman had argued the point on the strength a the' Army as it sattalor : gti. stood sisu.: litcrri : . 'view i ntv i r,; : koua e ftn s yt e dtio n !:ai t af , }l; il and' ec,owi:glis l e, i stF a ei.. o d o, r c et tini) c : o rar n i;e. t if e ,)ew n eun d aats e u : i i snil l esat t i is l rg l ti i d i ri ti.ceai. great leadi addition,i ar 11 tailed ‘jcd c:,als,.fail, argument-, augmented the Army it might not eventually-do so? —.The . experitrient had - hitherto lasted .but three. months. ~• - It would , be highly enntsadiCtury to - try the meatere hy‘ the , duratinn of the. time ,when no operation - had taken-, place, and teluse to da sO when the operation tvkaeld. take place.- ,In confuta. tints -of the Hon. Gentleman's assertion, that .our Disposable Force had not.inereased, iftlie.Returns on . the Table was consulted„. they, ould .shew that the increase since -the ost. Of Janu ary, 1804, etas - between 18 "and 19 thousand inert .for ....Unlimited service. ' Its this number, a part of „the. Artillery was • not included, latuaunting to 1540-o or , 2000 men.' Wier regard to -Ceylon, 'the ,Wes;' Indies; and. our - other Futeig-n Possessions, , it was very desirable to increase the force in them, ifpossible, as it - Anabled us to - keep out own .troopsAtitotrie -; but the fad. war, that, instead of the number stared by . the Hon.: Gentleman, only twelve or thirteen hundred men had been 'raiseti in Ceylon since the . , year 1803; The number of men who voltinteered in Great Britain from limited .to unlimited service (lilting the last year,- was z 0,000.. Thenumber of 'Men - serving in a limited Way had really- increased Severe tlitisantlin that ttme, though .it apparently decreased' four thousand.' .1: he consequence was, that the Surplus must either have been lust by casualties, nt have gore to the -Regular Army. Nine , thou:. sand six hundred had gone to - the ,Regular - Army:, The total increase-then in.our disputable tome tor t rte year 'ending the let of jantiary,.tBo s 'e, (deducting eighteen hundred for desertion} exceei,led nineteen thotioind men. Now, however desirable it might he-that this force s houldthe still further augmentedi tOuldany one call tlicritlOCaSe of near twenty 'thou.; ;sand Inetrin one year a trifling increase.? ' Much less could anyone-adduce this, oitcninitanee as a tea. , ion for the repeal of an A. which so.poWerfully tended- to remedy any deficiency --in our - tbs. losable force.- This was a ~asatter of very Sa at lattor y contemplation ; at the saint time he did not state it as wholly proceeding. from the Att now iie:. fore the -House; but he contended, that although the Att . -r had, not - Operated -direttly in producing this -- force, it 'bad Alarge - shate in contributing to it, by clearing itvitay -the obstacles to the regular rectoiting,. by diminishing- botinties,:and abolishing ballot. WA" - have the in - en, :but.'this was,of little importance td, the Hon. Gentleman, whn argued not so much against the Mt as ag:tinst the, Advanistration by Which. it I had been produced. Otis of' the joint .objedi.of the -1 Act-tv'as the facilitating of recruiting.l • Thirteen thoularni Men in all had-been recruited in the;.ye l ar„ , [ 15iVide the year into two periods, atulletribeaver. age 'seven handfed men . per month kliatt. been; Id.: Citillit thirilSg . 00e . potitAli Andonine .1 - iodated ureter'per Manch aititing,the-otber. , .)lihe asiltvantelwaitatk‘ Treat,'" hot ;as tar-as it'll - Mr itroved the tendency . - be - the-Aft to Attias-she—receeitang. , .,--Nesr- twenty - l'it taiksitik;ttiert.hak. beat , ralici i ,. staled .bye the .teat:"-- i. v. ' ~- „-.1.. ,er , 2-... - -.-,,, .;.,.-,. V - 7 , ;•:: '',. 14 .'' A,. ''. . , W :, ,'''' '•'. tea oOration of .this AO, in the.year,, but during the last seven months of the year, the eil:4t of it ort the ordinary recruiting had inpreasett,in such 'a proportion' as• shoald tnAlce the.. House pause he.; fore 'they voted for its repeal. -the Right Ho. nourable Gentleman 'here Went into several tails from the Papers on the Table, to she w ,the rapid increase during the last seven months. lln the, years pteceding the - last, nine, 4tn, or at most twelve thousand men Was the number gained by . uniting. It had been proved, si nce t he es , a blish.. meta of this system, by' . whiehthe impediments tti recruiting *ere removed, that '.number ..had been nearly tintibled. It was ',true that the experiment did nor lirstlong„ but as as it went , , it sheaved that nine or ten thousand - men in the -ye.te: were added by'‘the 'recruiting to the Regular --ArtnY;,' But it appeared by the 'Returns of last mnritl4". that no less than foUrteen hundred and ninety.ftve had' been recruited in that short Space' of time..- Should this continue, it would ; malt anpitai amount eighteen thousand. Six' hundred and,ei3lity eight had also volunteered from linnited to limited ' service, CoMptite these ;together, 'and they wr , ..multi be found to prcultie tiventy.:sii t h:itisitltnin annually: tie could" tint pledge - himself that such would he - the amount but theri.li.is eVei-,- fair and • ratiOnal ground of hnpe that such tr,ight,' be the amount.' tinder all these cireurn%lances., he owned, ;he had hut little doubt': what •itintld be,r.th'e ; decision •of the House on the ' -The 'Ho... inourabl (.3entleman• • ;.Issertvd it 11;10. beeri"at . gtied !by . AdMinisttation, that, even .were the it,'} iamirriceiit might be contirmed 'without daftger i : on account . .sbf the .`improved state'of the Navy.'' This 'hid not been said, but Only that 'the danger was 'eertaini? . 'leii; In spite •of the 'pr4vneation of the .ficinthitable•Gentliinitj-,' i n • ipl re : of !. hi s irrelevant eibservations, for''• Which he humbly conceived he"ought' to hake :been cull , ;:d try nrder, • hc' from e n te ri ng enring' ;inv . farther - Orrthe l.tt• , nom:2l'st than to 'repeat the opinion trihiehlte betnie adianced on th.it SubjeX'intnproicrik 'Which every tlli g he Ist , anti ,'heard. served Ili never would .be ttetitirfriliy.:-Any npininci of pt,:l)iic 'men, nor Woutd. he ever be hetrity4dOly 'any - artiri,:e., into the log fOf‘ifard . any *,cto'lion n t C:inSanallt to Cit gc.)•id 'of the . S!•rviee. He en4tt.l'ined high tesi;qt for rho, condnet laird . bidetttn, :is a navarniart, Whatever he 'nigh, think 4' him in' other resift:as h ' . anil - 11.. d no. intention *hate ver of bringing '''forward any 'Cluirges a vi rv , t iliiti . r • 44. Bar; '[' +the:H,Jn,uara;de Gentle. man " 'it is •tinhands.c 1et . 41,41ge th''es e t Charges without endeatrouritil to' substantiate' thorn'.'' -Surely he had a right to consider, whether Or Mitin dbinkrio lie should cnnitilc . his duty-to the PUblic. He hati no wish to 'pros;T.ute a peisnnal me titinc' agai nst any Mali, and'. the former services of that gallant Nobleman were by no means can. eelled•by any opinion of hi'j of his N4l/:31: niittrkin‘ As to the inetease of the Naval Force of the Country, he had no dtiubt uf what'wohld-he judgmetit of the public .When they coMpared, not the number, but the' size and quitity of shipi in rom:ni'ssibn now • ;:n1 la,r year.' Several' vess is been friumi unfit for service, anti bad heti') re. phicFd ; n number had been rendered so, inde`etf, by the Northern severi ty of F f ut'i . c61111 : 6„)i' his tr',l nscer id,... nt in the way whiCh he had thi 'evening t.nr4e. It seldom that the . 1 - lonourable Gentlem.m favowe:l the Hoittie with it speech, and when he did speAla . seemed to wish to con Vince he hail itnploy the',interval. Ail his 11 ,, arle:1 repartee's, • gill ' hii' inatured jests[, the full co7i. tents of; his `common place ore ve, inVeaives, bold baulk as s ertions, roll they ,came logether, Withoul- the' least reference to the stibjea of Debate. The lion. Gentleman had urged as one of his arguments why the. At ought to be repealed, that'he pOsseased less Clarint to the' nordi, dente of the House 'noty'ciiin in his former Adir'.. nistr:ttion:' If this we're so,- therawere mlny other and better ways in which it Might be expressed. but when,' At'. a time like the pte,sent,,.ar:mear.. - shie is ni'oposed incteate the Military De. fence of the i3oirntry, thti two • crestionl shOuld be separated, :itti Ole° fel - vice of s late m e r shit wonodel Merely' for' the purpose of inflifting div,;r:iZe• on a -!-.Thikter ; mitre espeCially, as thete'we're so Many other inAts by which, if be deserVect disgface, lie might Erect ye. In one:of the' 1-funr:'Pentleman's -he Certainly gave fli;n:„the vantage raun.l. •. 'The lliin Gentleti k an alloWS, that' he ilia' once stand higher in his estima. lion, hut 'mined - the:year 1861 he considered hiirs detiiiaed in 'el:tartar:l.' 'Now it hafill - ened,•o4 , srtti. nitely 'for ,the IL-mot:table G,:ntltnan's argument, that there r.is'no one epithet of Insr •which he eho'nse to apply to, hint noW, that he did not apply to Inas ''dtiting the' whole . of 02 seventeen years 'in' Which 'lle allowed that he had , ta i ne d a ' iotpetior chats l ee • Although at that titne (tic. ti Gentieukan coulif not per•Matle , l t 'll i t i „a to rid thi t ra h k at 'W l_ i i t u lt ri l ti t u im rii , b a i 'g e on questions.' • in Gentleinan had diOredr,' - liekvas gentrilly so for. tUnate as • to hive '1 majority' at .• t ' leant fifths, and sometimes of ntne. - tenths.'''The Right Honourable Gent Finnan thin • prticeeded to artim id. vert :On the insinuations' thrown' out against him for- his conctitring, in - Sentiment with, those from whom he had io widely, differetton former 'occasions, reSPeding iteasures•ol'the nature of the present one. With what grace could such come.froM - those, who, ii their ftirmer lives, habits, and agree merits, we re yeenli e d and considered, should hi prudently iilerit , or could heave very little to say, espeCially after . the'jundiOn 'they had now forined,'• • AS'io 'the Noble 'Arisenunt (Si two u'rit) to wham the Hon, Gentlerrian was pleaSed to alltidei, 'at :the ,head no 'one 'at some porki-k'sN,in to entertain a hi i 4her opitiiiiri of him than that ITm.; Cpl endetritici ; lie had often Übe. rally suppntted hint in hit speeehes,, and- even stnne. tithes with his' vote ;:but t'Livcr to any real` Pio n s the I,l,lctlott Wilk!! himselt 7thatertained 01 that `N .1,i,; Lord, he had w,:ver - r'ettktati, and he now thought favourably - of him as betort, The.. LliltriCw4l".4"tikumvburi.,it.i',l:l:o"lttntrelWhom he'lattp;lrtittlhaettlrmti.r:trt;