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Pri Irate i r 'nn killed in action, 21st Dec., 1845. P r i vp a te James Laiirie, killed in actio.n, 21st Dec., 1845. p rip. e John Ma.nsbridge, killed in action, 21st Dec. 1845. P 4 t John Nixon, killed iion,ec. . nv ar -we John Williamson, killed act in action , , 2 2 1st Dee. 1845 1845. are Cagbv, killed i n ac ti on , 21 s t D ec ., 1845. Privet Thom is Harvev killed in acti o n. 21st Dec., 1845. prlrate T homas' in action, 21st Dec., 1845. 'ate David Rae, killed in aclion, 21st Dec., 1845. Pri. v . at e flo.in Robi nson, kill e d i n act i on, 21st D ec. 1845. pr ivate Th omas Skinner, killed in a cti o n, 21st De c . ._1845. Pri.tate P atrick Madine. killed in action, 21st Dec. 1845. I'tivate Thoma s Bates, killed in action, 21st Dec. 1845. Pri,atejatees Rathbon' e. killed in action, 21st Dec. 1845. Private T at e H h enry Coop er , kill e d i n act i on, 21 st D ec. 18 4 5 . rivomas Wilson, kill e d in action, 21st Dec. 1845. private Niehelas Hill, killed in action. 21st Dec- • 1845. Pri v at e T arias Morto n , killed in action, 21st Dec., 1845. p riv ate J o h n Cox, killet: in action, ::Ist Dec., 1845. PlaJ°llll To ,- .le killed in action, 21st Dec., 1845. , te J ames Woo ' dward, killed in action, 21st Dec., 1845. 1 , ,;„ 41 e Joseph Yates killed in action, 21st Dec., 1845. Priv at e T homas Rolfe' killed in action, 21st Dec., 1845 Pri v at e Janies Dougla ' s, in act ion, 21st Dec.. 1845. % or at e iienry Foote died of wounds, 2gth D 1845. B urden, died ' at Moodke?, 20th Dee. 1845. /4 0 Commission by the Queen. Ca,, t 'tnOritlisliire Regiment of Milltia—J. M. Carter, Esq., J4,41ry141 It Royal Regiment, to be Adjutant from the 19th ,1 -16, - Janu at ly , 26, 1846. Th„ D ECLARATION OF INSOLVENCY. " 41 as botharns, victualler, Nottingham. 1f~ ,„ BANKRUPTS. 4 t c '''' a ae Blackman, farmer, B n iddend, Kent, to surrerder 1 11.7 a 11 at twelve. a n d Ap r il 28, a t e l even , a t th e C our t At rte tt.lr,9ptcy. Whiteinore, official assignee, Basingliall- G q ,', I terry and Hawkes, Three Crown. court. gLangibrd, gro cer , Southampton, March 27, and tZ r i,r at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Belcher, a 'signee ; Fitc ' h, New Bridge- street, B!ackfriars. t ai` t er ielt DaV, money-scrivener, Hemel Hempsted, March t t q4e' lve , l ,ve, and April 30, at one, at the Court of Bank y''ter r -,.,e , 11, official assignee, Coleman-street-buildings; 15 Q-dford-row • Smith and Grover, Hemel Hempstecl. N I -u , a ,ff Streeter, ' draper, Hioh-street, Camden-town, artof at half. past one, and April 30, at two, at the Feet ; ', -Lia nkruptcy. Johns:in, official assignee, Basinghall and Langford, Friday-street, Cheapside, `'Ptil-ras Cooper, umbrella inamilkturer, New Bond-street, r)f t at one, and Anril 28, at half past two, at the Court l' it ruptev. Edwards, official assignee, Frederick's-place, I (11 ) P,1 . Y3 Pullen, Ba.singliall-street. Poile, merchant, Rye, Su sex, March 27, at one, a4(1 8 Pril 28, at two, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Ed otrth:otEeial assignee, Frederick's-place, Old Jewry; Lovells, tiVeluare, Gray's Inn ; Bueler, Eye, Sussex. St„i l a,,rn Edward Burman, hatter, High-street, White- 26, at twelve, and April 27, at the Court of Alf.r a P e l e3 - - Turquand, official assignee; Ambrose, Chan ts Goodridge, baker, Exeter, April I, at eleven, and .„'t.r.m4o, at on e , a t th e E xe t er District C ourt. Hirtzei, b5ll a ,,`s ' ignee Exeter ; Fox, Finsbury-circus, Loudo n; tXeter ~ttr.,,4 h Austen, draper, Devonport, March 27 and Ap r il 21, tg ti e h, at the ' Exeter District Court. Ilernaman, official `tt,,l)-, a ' Exeter; Soles and Turner, Aldermanbury, London ; l'h o ' r ,' e vonport. -."43 Dunlop B commission merchant, Liverpool, r a nch Brown, 4111 . 4 ' and April 24, at eleven, at the Liverpool District I,l:Morgan, official assignee, Liverpool ; Vincent and 41 Ple, London; Jones, Liverpool. 1: 11 „ 4 ., 8 Robinson, grocer. Swansea, Glamorganshire, „`',,. at twelve, and April 23, at eleven, at the Bristol Court. A.craman, official assignee, Bristol; Leman, eo r Henry Darden, manufacturing chymist, St_a_ne °lletersiiire March 30, at one, and Hof 4, at twelN „ e Bri t • - l District Court. Acraman„ cial assignee, Brislov, Pancras-lane, London; Paris, Stroud. j Otil 1 , 4 , 41 Habgood, merchant, Manchester, March 30 and Nr - ' at twelve, at the Manchester District Court. official assignee, Manchester ; Williamson and Hill 1 11 .'building s Gray's Inn, London; Myers and Birk , ' 44 hchester. 1 40,1 1 Robert s , f armer, Pl asyn D erwen, Denbighshire, C iik rt 31 and May 1, at twelve, at the Liverpool District lorgan, official assignee, Liverpool. Williamson 4 411„. sray' s Inn, London; Jones, Bryn kly fr 3 Mold, ,rh,'Rhshir e '6, 414 Sleddon, cotton spinner, Liverpool, March 27_ and ? . 4 've,,l at twelve, at the Liverpool District Court. Caze- A e 47,,0ial assignee, ' Liverpool ; Gregory and Co., Bedford "ti°n • Rogerson and Ratcliffe, Liverpool. achy 4/41 Littler draper, Liverpool, Mareh 27 and April 24, ti!lgti e ,, 4, at th e Liverpoil District Court. Cazenove, o ffi c i a l •L 'ty a :',, Liverpool ; Reed and L ang f or d, Friday-street, , ; Dodge, Liverpool. r et es vibe, inn k ee p er , L iverpoo l , A pr il 3 and 24, at i N r J the Liverpool Distict Court. ird, official assignee, l 41'tt-Ppoolt Westmacott and r Co., Gray's ß Inn, London; TYrer, IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. LIOUSE OF LORDS, March 17. that on this question he should offer a few observations. That t:is negotiation would be conducted :with all the prudence w naturally required in a matter of this importance he believed, but he could not emiceal from himself that, although in the event of a The Earl of SIiAFTESBURY (in the absence of the Lord Chancellor), took his seat on the Woolsack shortly after Five o'clock. war, thi , honour of the country would remain untarnished, yetthat it would be one of the most frightful calamities that could be fal them if two countries, in that high state of civilisation that distinguished England and America, were to be involved is war ; and he could not avoid expressing his opinion that it would be nothing short of madness if they were thus to in volve themselves fur what was, comparatively speaking, but a very trifling matter. He trusted that whatever might be the f!eling induced by such a question in countries popularly go verned as these were, the good sense of both countries would prevent sack a calamity. He considered that the question was one of two countries having undefined rights, and the difficulty was how those claims could be settled in a fair and honourable manner. That was what Europe and the world had a right t• expect from two nations holding such prominent situations as this country and the United States. He considered that the question could not be left in safer hands than the Noble Lord the Secretary for Foreign Affairs. From his (Lord Ash burton's) experience of the people of the United States, he was led to believe that they might easily be prevailed upon to come to a fair and honourable adjustment of the question at issue. The motion was then agreed to. RAILWAYS. THE NEW HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT. Lord BRA JUG HAM, seeing the Noble Marquis, the Chair man of the Committee appointed to inquire into the progress of the New Palace of Westminster, in his place, would wish to ask him if he could holdout any hope of their Lordships soon being allowed to • eke possession of it? Although a member of the Committee himself, he had not been able to give his attendance upon it in consequence of his duties in that House ; and, there fore, it was that feeling the inconvenience of the present House, he was anxious to know if there would be a chance of their soon occupying the other. They heard that the new Leuses were fitting up in the inside, and that some progress was being made on the outside also. He did not know that anything had been done since A.1.,y. He hoped that the convenience of the inside would be tantamout to the beauty of the outside : certainly, if it were not more convenient than it was beautiful, he could not antici pate much satisfaction for their Lordships. '1 he Marquis of CLANRICARDE said that the evidence of yesterday appeared to him to make it necessary that the Com e mite should make some report, and the Noble Lords who were associated with him had unanimously come to the same conclusion. He was bound to say, in justification of the architect, that though little or no progress had been made in the building that delay could only be attributed to the difficulties thrown in his way by the scientific person who was appointed with himself to supereiteud the arrangements. He did not think it advisable to go into the matter then, but he should take the earliest opportunity of communicating with the Committee of the other Home on the same subject, with the view of pre venting further delay in th e p r o gress o f t h e H ouses. The Earl of BESBOROUGH thought that all the blame of the delay should not be thrown upon Dr. Reid. Many diffi culties had been thrown in his way also.—(Laughter.) He did not consider the arrangement that had been made, namely, to associate Dr. Reid and Mr. Barry together, a good one, and some measure, he thought, ought to be adopted to remedy the evils arising from it. Lord CAMPBELL presented a petition from the Worshipful Company of Fishmongers against a railway, the name of which we were not able to catch. Lord BROUGHAM said that as one of that honourable body, being himself a member of the Fishmongers' Company, he entirely differed from the opinions of his lion. brethren. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY—Then I suppose your name was not attached to the petition. OREGON TERRITORY QUESTION. The Earl of CLARENDON, in pursuance of the motion of which he had given nofice, begged to move for the produc tion of such correspondence as might hare taken place between the Noble Lord the Secretary for Foreign Affairs and the Minis • ter for Washington as his Noble Friend might net think incon sistent with his public duty to lay upon their Lordships' table. He trustee that it would he unnecessary for him to assure their Lordships that it was the furthest from his intention to wish to embarrass the Government or to press for any premature dis closures of any information which might prove injurious to the country. When they considered the magnitude of the interests involved in the solution, whether by peace or by war, of the quest ion now at issue between this country and the United States, and the deep anxiety with which in telligence was looked for, and the influence which it exercised upon the commercial and financial affairs of this country, he thought that the people should not be altogether dependent upon American newspapers for such information ; with reference to the actual state of affairs, and the transactions of the Government for many weeks, and almost without interruption, the question has been debated in Con gress, while, although Parliament has been sitting now for nearly two months, no allusion had been made to it, except by two Noble Lords in that House, one of whom he regretted to say was not present. He thought such had been well intended ; anti, moreover, thought that it exhibited a prudent determination on the part of both Houses of Parliament to leave the Government un fettered in its action, by not interfering in matter, for which Parliament could not be responsible.—(Hear.) He thought the course pursued had been well understood and appreciated, though abroad, without doors, it was liable to misconstruction, arid had been so misconstrued ; and therefore it should be their duty to guard against the notion that so indifferent were they that they would submit to peace and concession, though on dishonourable terms.—( Hear, hear.) If they bore in mind that the language of the American Government was pacific, and that the information which reached them was of the same character; yet they would not be doing their duty if they did not instantly proceed to the consideration of the question. Ile therefore thought the time was corns when his Noble Friend might, without indiscretion, lay on the table of that House the correspondence that had taken place, or else give such informa tion as would lead to the quieting of the public mind. They had learned from the newspapers that all negotiation had ceased some time since. Now he believed that the British interests could not be confided to a Ministry more competent than the present, nor would he doubt their reasons for instructing Mr. Pakenharn to renew the negotiations; but he should say he could not agree in the policy of such. They had proved, that however confident they were in their claims, yet so little de sirous were they of obstinately adhering to such that they were anxious of submitting their case to a disinterested tribunal and to abide the result.—(Hear.) They did so because the people o England would not consent to a war until they were satisfied that such was inevitable.—( Hear, hear.) The people of England would not endure the disastrous conse quences of a contest so unnatural and unnecessary until they are convinced that their exists a determination to injure and insult us on the part of the United States. —( Hear, hear. ) Then, indeed, her Majesty's Government might se curely reckon on the cordial support of al persons and classes. —( Hear, hear.) But that there should be such a de termination appeared to him to be little less than a moral impossibility. For in the annals of history there could not be found a record of any two nations, bound together by the strictest ties of mutual interest, being so fool ishly wicked and wanton as to plunge themselves in war, owing to the peremptory refusal of the one to accept of any terms or any arbitration for the fee simple possession of an unoccupied territory, the advantages to be derived from which could not compensate for the loss occasioned by one single month, True it was they had been rudely assailed, but the disposition which did exist to insult was mainly owing to the system of electioneering which prevailed in the United States, for which some allowance, he considered, ought to be made. But that that Owes faithfully represented the opitrions of the en lightened majority, he could by no means allow, especially in a country where statesmen were to be found as en lmentened as any in the world—( Hear)—and where morality and religion exercised their influence over the minds of the community, and moreover at a time when they are about to reap the roost beneficial effects from the adoption of one of the most enlightened systems of commercial policy ever proposed by a Legislature. The Noble Lord concluded by moving fur he production of the correspondence. Lord ABERDEEN, who spoke in a very low tone of voice, said, I consider the motion just made by the Noble Lard rather unusual, in consequence of the peculiar position in which this country is placed in reference to the subject of the correspondence, and felt certain that his sense of public duty, his intimate knowledge of the course to be pursued in public negotiations, would have prevented him from adding anything to the embarrassments with which this question is already invested. And I should also say that his own feeling should have prevented him from making it the subject of any remark. I think, however, the desire expressed by the Noble Lord is one perfectly natural and per fectly reasonable. I think when we receive in telligence of interest and importance connected with this question from the other side of the Atlantis, it is perfectly natural that your Lordships and the people of this country should desire authentic information on the sub ject, accompanied by such remarks as her Majesty's Govern ment might think proper and advisable. I have, therefore, no valid reason to object to the production of this correspon dence, especially as the subject was pretty well known to your Lordships. 1 must however suppress a large portion which has taken place between her Majesty's Government and the Ministers of 'Washington, as I consider, in the first place, that it is quite unusual in a negotiation of such magnitude to pro duce an account to Parliament on the particular position in which we stand with reference to it. It is quite true that the Government of the United States have acted differently, but their position is very different from ours. The Legislature called upon the President to take a fixed course upon this ques tion, and he was therefore under the necessity of complying with this demand. But on this point I cannot express any opinion. Indeed, I may say that at the present moment the expression of any opinion would be anything but advantageous to the settlement of the dispute. Another reason is that tho production of those papers would materialey add to the diffi culties of terminating the dispute. .I must also, in fairness, admit that the aspect of the negotiation, 83 it would appear from the papers which had been produced by the Government of the Unites States, might have a very different effect upon the result of the negotiation than individuals in this country would anticipate. Under these circumstances, I will submit it to the House whether it will be advisable to lay these commu nications before the House. Certainly the Governme n t have no desire to keep these papers back on their own 'account. I am the snore desirous to refrain from placing 'Meese papers be fore the House, because I believe, and I th'.nk every unpreju diced person would conceive, that when Wee protest to which I allude has been laid b-fore the American Government, that 'toubt that this matter will There will be no reasonable cause to quite sure that be brought to an amicable conclw_ mm. I am that is the unfeigned desire of O de Governments of both coun tries, and I hope that the Isis Ale Lord will not think me dis courteous if I continue to e weline to produce the papers ethic's aspect of affairs. No onemore than be desires in the present himself, I feel assured., would regret any impediment throwe in the WV: , 9. Ido not hesitate to ooh may of an adjudication w' h ic may prevent hostile movernen' be b l e ie n v ig e greatest calamity that can befal a nation, and war to be the the eetellevencement of it, withoue sufficignt grounds, the eree'sese crime a nation mare commit. In the obviation of Ue h a calamity I am anxious to be the instrument, and if in ,ne fulfilment of my duty, I feel it necessary tocall upon the House for its confidence, I am justified by the conviction that the House will believe that I should accede to no settlement of this dispute which is not cc nsistent with national honour. In at large, I would assure calling for that confidence- and for the support of the coun t ry that th e di spute will the House that my firm impression i s , just awn rate, and l ee settled by a f a i r , conc ili atory, mode like tb es must be 0 . en e ement. The conduct of a great nation 'inn, conciliatory, and just, without any sacri or the real interests of the country.—(Hear, five . erf ) honou i r s possible that all these efforts may prove unavail he Ar. It ' .ug, and in that case I shall endeavour to secure the counte- Ot FINE ARTS. P c' t 'EN N 4 i o flo e DESIGNS, in outline, illustrative 0.. ; narme and support of not only your Lordships, but the appro e4ofi of Wyomi ng ," mad e expressly for the A r t_ bation of e very State, in Eirope, and throughout the civilised world, The Noble Lord (Lord Ctarendon) must not exect bk t , e l ' hdon by G.E.Hirks• • engraved ly Collard ~,t ., ii , , v e ,, , • ;• f . ' , , l i tilit 4 ,e4 r , uc. Stocks, and 11 . atlns. w as most graciously pleased to ne e to go further at . present, and I will conclude by repeating it.U3 l r avings which are of folio size, and ae pthe thr•ene—that no effort should be 11, i 1 , 11 a handsome portfolio are presented h•r - ' c esaay'ph i z n iti t c h a e lly te w e h e a h t f h ro e , r m Majesty \N eil " tej London to the , u , b , ;cribers for e' national honour to bring this 1 44 41 ' it ion t b 1 - 1 . ' . " j the spared, consistent with the 1:10 year question to an early and peac sable termination.—( Hear.) i ;ti, 1;1 to ~e mo t e usua me engr . avin- b 4 he wished to refer to a letter s te e ke s of outline _ The sae ar: excee:lir ,g,y` beautiful f 1 wh L ic o h rd he ß l ß ,a o d U re G ee H iv his Friend, Mr. Everett, who had Nit:ed CI . drawing and . engr ..... . nn ! IJ I and be it recently so admirably fu ',filled his duties as Minister for the 1, 13 4 tl - ,'L in the peoductson 4Y e, United States in this country. } It was in reference to this i 1 )t ; 4 etiss • .of these outline's the A ed M frr " , m ' er e l q, . 15 put to the s , statement that he he ,d purchased a globe on which a line was ~ i " e.,:s, atir u; ,. earl be i ntr _verest possible tea t. In drawn favourable ',o the United States of America and adverse e, el.t in lie , •.- `diced to hide had „draw" to the claims of ',hi s That • country. globe it seemed had been 0 , tie d no tr.] , __ , . yei Is 4 s ti Prop er ! ) . . -we •., art in outline—all must appealed to ie, America as a proof coming from this country t, ,is ' ee l s Pr°Pertioned, Jr; th ese out] fines, in favour of the United States' claims. 'He begged leave to *4, tis ti.,a,.‘,01..... aceordic;:: to the strict rules ,s •-• art, state that 'ibis was no wonder, seeing that the globe referred i lel ' The, ;I: Poetiee".l, imaginative, eus hued to had been altered by the tradesman who made it, after the wittAivtitieator;:c are worthy of the -poem. order was given as a compliment te, _his customers.—( Hear, hear, and a laugh.) But he (Lord Brougham) was bound re, .c ' 'lit Y contine — '' --- " --1 " - Trutt 1 - . art no hand in the matter, or rive say .6 . e Mr. Es ~ i . .. P .cy to ,t , th jrwlitioiteh his tit at Badminton, in ver . y indif- . the l'eewsous fraud, watch had Ireri practised ; nee bad Mr, esis s li s, f1,,.: 1 ‘)/1 as ' L . °l. °.Sll; l , IS not considered to be . in such a rit4 n 'tens 46 "'" si w's i - - i i n with the globe maker—the .e ist 4 z , is seoe s e er e - _,::. i s_ce , s nee. VI e regret to say that Ev . rwett any comm utheat.o , . e ci, lei,. I: re- 0 j n i , .. a..N othablc,. it lai extre , y .nizl doubtful caroler had been given by another party. This wee 0 1, 'i , l f , e ,. - . e;st L!."ines3. ' an explanation which he (Lord velrougham) etnlsidered ~rhtt,t,,, G ~..:, on is confined to his dam!: er by a right to tale the present opportunity of making. ~, I ,.? t "ti Irvin Minister And, continued the Noble Lord, I egree evith the Noble Lords ‘.4 ,itri p l tie rec a l l , at Nils g, the at the s 1 Ji snieh on this important subject. I join my hearty wishes with 0.191 request, and trill be suece , d sd by , theirs, and express my confident hope that all these negotia (it'es,tte:.l nd 1 . 4 ,, ` , 4 O t , 8 ,CountesB of Harris) twho - - o:l'k,:vetk%urd,,,Y last for Elvarstongl ‘'4,t,'1,41N0.......... tr,lcntertained a• ' '* ' e P t ,; lions, painful and tedious thengis they now are, will lead to a on-, were i r happy and lasting peace ; and I rest party at thnner oil &Ind , ' - Al, e 4 , itz ia _rU. Monday mot - nitres th© is •' ‘j• c o st oned tees the Noble Lord also my full confidence in opposite, and in her Majesty's Government, that should, unhappily for us and for America, and oohs it ` Ne d bi ter. i , ~,;',,% a , thion __ ~_ pi if _ , a . iant son r humanity at large, their wise and, I hope, just expectations N t. ~.1 . 44:_,0v ~..7 I - I. an, ii,l , Aras baptised a's et \, k frustrated, thatall •:ii+ bls'iseret `sti ll square. w i,. . A select r ie i ke„ llf "oi t i fre l Clu ui rc 4 l i t i t j n . she sl ' en ' en were V isses'te ' t; I: 1 ' 'a be imputed, and that that blame does not rest with us • ~e,k, kr..4eiltookr the ierine; , a ., r2r! , I,,zzetly rkel.exandrina Tr '''• - s ao Z , "reeeer, that although the calamity of war will possibly ' 1 114: 1 4,` I ‘i t: s w.iit e o e , e , ti . a ,.., ~, i ~., , 4i 1 ,, ,, ,, J .. 1 . k .rob- " I . 'I ' No° , ked on by all the subjects of the Crown with the utmost • W it i L t ebreakte-` ent • ' ,„, 4, is eili be looked upon by on one with apprehension or Lord MONTEAG LE preserved a petition from the pro jectors of the frith Great Western and Midland Great Western ,ices, complaining of breach of agreement. Ord,red to lie on the table. Lord FORESTER wished to call the attention of the House to the incredible short time in which a first class cf war ship had been rigged and got ready for sea. It was scarcely to be con ceived that a ship with nothing but her lower mast and bow-, prit could be rigged, and large blocks thrown over her mast-head, in the space of two days and a half, and brought from Ports mouth, to anchor at Spithead on the third day. He called the attention of the Ilouse to these circumstances, in order to show that their skill had not been undervalued by the public ; and if there was any chance of diminishing the chances of war, it would be by showing to the nations what British seamen were capable of performing. Lord CLANRICARDE objected to the loss of public money such experiments would occasion. Lord ELLENBOROUGLI said that the stores were always in readiness in the arsenal, and consequently it was no increase of expense. • Lord FORESTER said that his only object in mentioning this subject was to call the attention of their Lordships to what he considered a most extraordinary feat on the part of the captain, officers, and seamen of the Rodney and Bellerophon. The subject then dropped. Their Lordships then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, March 17. The SpitAritx took the Chair at Four o'clock. NEW MEMBER. Mr. JAMES KELLY took the oaths and his seat for the city of Limerick, in the room of Sir David Roche, who has accepted the office of Steward of the Chiltern Hundreds. SECOND READINGS. The following Bilis were read a second time, and ordered to be committed, viz, : Manchester and Hyde Railway. Direct Birmingham and Leicester Railway. Runcorn and Preston Brook Railway. Nlanchester and Poole Railway (Luggershall, Salisbury, and Poole). Governesses Benevolent Institution. Sittingbourne Improvement. hitehaven and Furness Junction Railway (Whitehaven and Kirksanton Deviation). Argyll Canal. North Union Railway (Horwich Branch). Sheffield New Streets. Etowmarket Navigation. Lowestoft and 13eceles Railway and Drainage. Grand Union Railways. Portsmouth Harbour Pier. Norfolk Estuary. Andover Canal: Taff Vale Railway. GLASGOW WATER-WORKS BILL. Mr. LOCKHART complained of the non-attendance of the Members appointed to the Setect Committee on this riill. He thought that it was very unfair that the promoters of the Bill should be saddled with the expenses which these delays occa• sioned, and moved that the Committee on the Glasgow Water.. works Bill be again revived, and have leave to sit on Thursday, at twelve o'clock. _ Mr. FOX MAULE thought there was something that re quired correcting in the mode in which the Select Committees were conducted. These delays, whether created by the ab sence of the appointed Members, or by the absence of the parties connected with the Bill, entailed considerable expense on the promoters, ar d were highly objectionable. Mr. ESTCOURT was very glad that the subject had been brought before the Rouse, as it would lead to the more re gular attendance of the Members appointed to the Select Committees. It seems it was stated to the promoters, that if they fixed the time for the meeting of the Committee for Mon• day, it was quite impossible for them to attend, as they would not have an opportunity of being made aware of the circum stance. ~1 " .4,„ DIVIDENDS DECLARED. A. Ilodick, and C. Morton, bankers, Welling 15t,liovsev'enth div. of 2d. in the pound, April 1, and ;ng Wednesdays, at the office of Mr. Turquand, . 3 • •X• end k ? , ( ht, ° ,l , sen., and W. Lendon, jun., curriers, Exeter— ^e43,, v Bs. 9d. in the pound, March 20, and ay follow the office of Mr. flernarnan, Exeter. k u nl er, cabinet-maker, Cambridge—aof ls. 9d. o„na, any Friday, at the office of Mr. Follett, Sam 11444tr,t..13a;inghalrstreet. 1 Of 1 0 ,, e uinson, leather seller, Jewry-street, Aldgate—a /ft, s'• In the pound, any Friday, at the office of Mr. Litti:irav brok-court, Basin gha 11-st reet. ej ood, o hosier, New Bond-street—a div. of 4s. in any 'Friday, at the office of Mr. Follett, Sam ty.urt, Basin *hall-street t iver • • , victualler, Slawston, Leicestershire—first div. Atiett(Vll,,the pound, any Thursday, at the office of Mr. kNtr-, utrminghani. V i aq sPrivener, Newport, Shropshire—final div. of 1 of 15, 2,1 _ , 9f a penny in the pound, any Thursday, at the .04d Littleston, Birmingham. (:14 the Lamb, engineers, Kidderminster—final div. of iS ti t e Yound, any Thursday, at the office of Mr. Bittle ,. I, ll ingli am. qk,4l,olracklick, tanner, Bristol—third div. of Is. id. in ` l, any Wednesday, at the office of Mr. Acraman, t' k• VV iti i ng, druggist, Bath—first cliv. of sd. in the pound, () , esday, at the office of Mr. Aeraman. Bristol. h,,eitleston, hide merchant, Liverpool—a div. ls. 9d. I), k 7 . ltud, any Monday, at the office of Mr. Turner, Mr. BOUVERIE considered that those Members should be reported to the House who did not attend to the Com mittees appointed them. Lord G. SOMERSET considered the promoters to blame, as they had been informed of the impossibility of the members of the Committee attending on Monday, but notwithstanding this notice they had appointed the Committee for that day. Mr. 13ARNARD thought that the Committee of Selection ought to appoint a larger number of Members for each Com mittee, and that a cntain penalty should be imposed on such of them as neglected to attend. Mr. AGLIONBY did not quite understand the Hon. Mem ber for Greenwich. The Committee of Selection had exe cuted their duties exactly as they had been authorised and directed to do by the House. They first ascertained what Members were most likely to attend the Com mittees, if appointed to serve on them. Letters were invariably sent, at an early period of the session, to the Members of the House to inquire whether they would sit as members of Committees, and also inquiring on what days it would be most convenient for them to sit. In every instance he believed that the Committee of Selection consulted the con venience of Members as much as they possibly could. The Hon. Member fur Greenwich had also suggested that a much greater number of the selected Members should be appointed to sit. But that would only increase the inconvenience; they had even a great difficulty in finding a sufficient number as it w as. They had no means of compelling their attendance, and the consequence was that towards the end of the session they would scarcely muster a quorum, If the House thought that the present system should be remedied they ought to take the subject into their own hands. Ile hoped that what bad been said would have the effect of calling the attention of those Members who had been appointed to serve on Committees, but did not at present perform their duties in a satisfactory manner. He hoped that they would do as muck as they could to prevent the unnecessary delay and expense to which the public were put in consequence of their non-attendance. (Hear, hear.) The members of the Committee of Selection did all in their power to promote the business that came before the different Committees. The Hon. Member for Green wich had said that the promoters of the different railway Bills in many instances expended 2,0001. or 3,0001. in giving attendance at the Committee, but the Committee of Selection were not responsible for that.—(Hear.) After a few words from Dr. BOWRING, who suggested that Members should be reported to the House when they neglected to attend Committees upon which they were ap pointed, DIVIDENDS. 'I P ' Slut In the Countr ; ti , on y. rocer, Bristol, April 9, at eleven, at th e Bris ke $ n ton g t, stit Court—W. Arrowstnith earthenware manufac ' bistZe,t, ~Staffordshire, April 7, ' at twelve, at the Liver- \l, 1, k.)ourt—R. Guy Taylor and E. Guy, hosiers, t:llq i April 9, at eleven, at the Liverpool District Court K l elw, il son, lime-burner, Eccb-ston Lancashire, April 9, ' 5 t the Liverpool District - Court—J. ' Law and E. 1 1 4 ttyl ei t() , tton spinners, Ramsden-wood, Lancashire, April .•,"Ne're,,at the Manchester District Court—J. Law, cot • ki tkl 4tri eh , liatrisden-wood, Lancashire, April 8, at one, at Veri., e ster District Court—E. Hudson, cotton spinner, , tZbi,.° (, (l, Lancashire, April 8, at one, at the Man `ii ~ A",":i,et Court—S. and J. Knight, merchants, Man k'i kr,,iv r , i i, , 8, at twelve, at the Manchester District Court Pik , a . 4. W. Panton, iron manufacturers, Sunderland, hli..‘ eleven, at the Newcastle-upon-Tyne District 'fi t I, At A. Brooks, quarryman, N ewcas tl e - upon -T yne , Vfii - 4. twelve, at the Newcastle-upon-Tyne District O tt, ,Arnistrong, shipwright, Newcastle- upon-Tyne, 'll , l , ,even, at the Newcastle-upon-Tyne District Court. i k li tte ATEs to be granted, unless cause be shown to nh,,44, 8 contrary, on the day herein mentioned. I,kri,ma i ,, 'Wine merchant, Aldborough, Suffolk, April 7 I , s • on • 0 16 iii 4k , innkeeper, Aldeburgh, Suffolk, April 7—R. , 11 4 , C ePt- , , Ragland, Monmouthshire, April 7—C " 4 ?),•?.. e athl' n . drapt-,, Whitcharch, Shropshire, April B—G. iti t ? .. lii re : l l, powet-loorn cloth manufacturer, Over Darwen, ;"hii;' , A,-,. l Pril 9—l:. J. Kenworthy, calico printer, Man 'sr,‘,.,f' B—II. Roo, drysalte,r, Blackburn, Lancashire, k:.-ll t • ne-d anE. Herdnian, jun., millers, Congle i 811 i re, 'man Ltk,.t, A April . 7—J. - 1. Pim, stationer, Great Trinity oiliripril i-1-1. Woodgate, butcher, Great Canford, N tl , , April 7-4. Hamsher, hosier, Vine-place, Taber ,ttit''a Hoxton, April 7. i 11. t i P ARTNERSHIPS DISSOLVED. o, ,Wilson, ,L Bray, and J. Fenton, engineers, Ntjtprkshire (so far as regards E. B. Wilson) — lit l'o r i_ it4 h, J. Clarkson, and J. Blenkiron, grocers, hNti-,ikliire (so far as regards J. R. M`Collah)—W. V J ‘;', Adsetts, C. Benson, J. Banks, J. Benson, T. ti`'N i'di ' 1 / 4,14. , 1 0 ._ ri , .. olson, T.,lawley, T. Gillott, J. 'Purnell, type .0.11.,„4,4 Fhester—G. Webb, T. Sharp, and T. Baker, ‘7ll,,r4")Prietors, Fulham—T. Pilling and H. B. Peacock, t4 . t11 4 1 SD'rs, Burnley, Lancashire—G. and F. Denny, I t, jtltic'atliwold, Stiffolk—lt. B. Lucas, R. Bright, R. r fir ki 'i r and T. Legge, linendrapers, Liverpool—W. t4O and Angrave, drapers, Spalding, Lincolnshire—W. t l, till . Stanford, grocers, Brighton—C. and J. Ah, ~esc factors, Bristol—G. Best and J. Adams, Vint,,,P,." ,, epers, Barcombe, Sussex—J. and J. C. Ord, ),.! , tr f t s rs, Blackman -street, Stones-end, Southwark— ) ‘41,,,'4 and It Thwaite, tailors, Blackburn, Lancashire 't r' an t L. R. N \,,.4 44 ,( L. Hattersley, builders, Lockwood, York ‘c,' )/ ~.„. 1 ' • J. Warrick, in porters of drugs, G',,rlic•hill : \ z'' . 4, - ,* ,` , .0o (I and J. Smith,; P 'shipping agents St.. B. ' ' 1 . f.% iin' il urch-stree—ll. Jarvis and W. H. D..av: n h e a t m s e7 :44. k t4 t . 'rt igliam—T. Topham and C. Sm, lace ,V , L:s, Nottingliain—J. Southall and C. Dowding ;Vr!,, N ninster—J. Stead, J. Brook, and W. Pickles, ' i..,', 114j1radford, Yorkshire—J. M. Gilbertson and R. \.S;;,te (I'l,.drapers, HertiOrd—C. Platt and W. Gourlav, , „` . 4N,, t ,, d lers, Liverpool—J. W. Monnerv, H. Brookman, Ittkj.la r T l IL Cowie, printers' brokers, - 131ackfriars-road 1, '(h. ( r, J. Smith, J. Carter, and J. Watson, brewers, ,c l tar ~i regards J. Watson). 4 \ t b ri , `.;COTCH SEQUESTRATIONS. k,,,k0 111 , skinn er , Kil marnoc k. M arc h 24 and April 22, i f :it:lC.: Llack Bull Hotel, Kilmarnock. a lt ii N l l , l lo_ [e l , farmer, Broomelten, Lmarkshire, March 20 I 1 0 4/ 1 4 ~,t twelve, at the office of Mr. Young, Glasgow. litt t,.:'''hn Reid, tea, Greenock, March 20 aud ) ^ O , at the Wh Hart Inn, Greenock, IL, v), 5c—..........- The motion was agreed tm. SUNDERLAND GAS BILL. On the motion of Mr. BRIGHT, Lord Harry Vane and Mr. Charls Howard were added to the Committee on the Sunderland Gas Bill. An flost. MsiaiaEa presented a petition in favour cf the South-Eastern Railway Bill. A petition was also presented in favour of the North Stafford shire Potteries line of Railway Bill. Sir JOHN YARDE BULLER postponed the following motion—That the Ashburton, Newton, and South Devon Railway Bill, being an unopposed Bill in Group No. 2, be re ferred to the Chairman of the Committee of Ways and Means, and the Members appointed to take charge of the Bill. DIRECT BIRMINGHAM AND .LEICESTER RAILWAY. This Bill was read a first time. THE MILITIA. Dr. BO WRING presented a petion which was signed by 250 respectable individuals (the prayer of which was supperted by 20 other petitions which he held in his hands) praying the House not to take any steps f or th e em b o di ment of thebrui litia. The same Hon. Member also presented a petition, the prayer of which was to the effect that the House provide that, in all international treaties, there should be a clause by which the nations concerned shall agree to submit all questions of public controversy to friendly arbitration, in stead of appealing to arms. Mr. LABOUCIIERE presented a petition from the Wa terman's Steam-packet Company of London, complaining of the vexatious opposition which they had to undergo at the . hands of the Corporation of London, and that as the Perim , ment was the only court of law to which they could appeal for redress, they prayed the House to revive the Corn mime which was appointed by the House a few years ago to inquire into the legitimate rights possessed by the Cor poration of London over the navigation of the rive!. Thames, so that their rights might be put forth in a mere distinct and tangible shape. ART-UNIONS. Mr. WYSE said, on a future day, he should ask leave of the House to bring in a Bill to sanction and promote Art-Unions. PRESERVATION OF LIFE AM) PROPERTY (IRE- LAND) BILL. Mr. O'CONNELL gave notice, that when this Bill was next under the attention of the House, he should move, as an amendment, " that: while the House deplores the outrages which have been committed in Ireland, and is anxious to sup press them, that it is of opinion that these outrages will be aggravated by this Bill, as it is the duty of Parliament to adopt measures to suppress crimes instead of investigating persons to commit them, and further that it will aggravate the national discontent."—(Hear, hear.) DUTY ON GLASS. Loid DUNCAN postponed his motion respecting the glass duties until the 211 of March. ane Spencer." be .Instnn Gt• t.c Alar • •. 444.1 _ _ -:tre liurfitpb.gud. avert vs. .Part.r QY , bOLIt tNI , VIitY =tern' I Lord A.. alarm. ' STIBURTON said it might probably be expected , • PIIE SITN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY MORNING, MARC El 18, 141 THE TARIFF. Upon the order of the day that the House should go into Committee on the Tariff Customs Bill being read, Mr. S. O'BRIEN sei.l he wished to say a few words to the House upon the question. it was in the recollection of the House, that on the 27th January the Right lion. Baronet at the head of her Majesty's Government informed the House that certain changes were about to take place, and that those changes were to be accompanied by other measures of great advantage to the country. lie did not take this question as one of free trade or of protection. Raw much longer did he mean to keep them in suspense before he Lid before the House those measures which he had stated were not to follow, but to accompany these great commercial changes—and how long he had learnt to attach to the meaning of the word accompany the notion of certain measures passing their second reading, and the principle of which being thereby affirmed, before other measures in cennexion with them, were even laid upon the table of the House? With reference to the Drainage Bill the Right Honourable Baronet stated that his measure of three years was connected with the de tails of those measures; whether or no the three years might have reference to that measure—whether or no the sum specified might have reference to that measure—he (Mr. S. O'Brien) could not pronounce, and he complained that he was wholly unable to pronounce upon it.—( Hear, hear.) Had the Right Honourable Gentleman any notion of the willingness or unwillingness of the agriculturists to ac cept that measure Had he any notion of the number of acres that were drainable? Had he any notion of the annual expense of draining those acres—( Hear, hear) —or did he mean, as he (Mr. O'Brien) suspected, he did that it should be all hap-hazard together. They knew nothing ahout it. 'With reference to Ireland the Right Hon. Baronet stated, that it was his intention to take the police force entirely out of the hands of the magistrates, and place it in the hands of the executive. This was because Ireland was deeply affected by the Right Hon. Baronet's mea sures. But the Right Hon. Baronet had never given the magistrates of Ireland an opportunity of considering whether the proposal would be acceptable or not to them. The great question of the centralization of the police force was connected with the centralization of schoslmasters and the auditors of peblie accounts, It was not his (\l r . O'Brien's) fault that those measures were brought forward as isolated measures. The Right Hon. Gentleman had presented them all to the house as parts of one great scheme, and he (Mr. O'Brien) insisted upon it, not as a question of party, or of politics, but as a matter of straight-forward business, that they should have a right to consider them altogether, fie was sorry not to see the Right Hon. Gentleman in his place, and he should have postponed his remarks in consequence, but that he believed that the more legitimate time for them was on the order of the day. But whether the Right Hon. Gentleman was in his place or not, he thought Hon. Gentlemen, boih on the other side of the Home, and on the Ministerial side, had a right to complain of the course the Right Hon. Gentleman had adopted. But while they were charged with delay ing the progress of these measures they had a perfect right to complain that the Right lion. Baronet had committed a double error in reference 1 to abolish this very large amount of revenue, which was larger than any other sum of du'y mentioned in the schedule. One of the objects of the proposed tariff was said to be to increase the consumption of this article, and not to diminish it. He could not believe that any of her Majesty's Government, or of that House would wish to see the consumption of spirits in creased in this country. If it were desirable, it would not be expedient to bring such articles as brandy and other spirits more within the reach of the people than they were at present: It could not be done because the price would be still high, for when the proposed duty was put on there would still remain a duty of 300 per cent. Cognac brandy was the only description of French brandy that was brought into this country for con sumption, and could only be obtained from a few who were engaged in the Cognac trade. He would ask what good had resulted from the equalisation of the duties on French and Portuguese wines. No accession of commerce had taken place, neither had the customs revenue been increased. He wished always to have a surplus revenue of income over the expenditure, for it was the vt safest, and, in the end, the most economical for the country. In conclusion, he would a.: k whether the in terests of the people would not be better consulted by a par tial repeal of the excise duty cn soap, than by allowing the enormous sum which was paid on French brandy to be com pletely lost. He should move that the words " spirits and strong waters" he struck out. Mr. EWART maintained that the commerce with France would be increased rather than diminished by the proposed re duction of the duty on brandy. It was a well known fact that the French trade had increased since the equalisation of the duty on wine, and it was only an act of justice that the duty was reduced to the same amount as that paid on Portuguese wines. Ile was not inclined to favour France more than Por tugal, but wished that British commerce should meet with every encouragement. Ile trusted that this was the beginning of a further reduction of the duty on French articles, and ha felt satisfied it would be met with reciprocity on the part of France. The Marquis of GRANBY said that it was of very great importance to the welfare of the lower classes that the duty on foreign spirits should not be diminished. He had found that crime and disease had increased in proportion to the supply and consumption of strong liquors. He had a paper in his hand showing the great increase of crime, but he would not trouble the House with reading it further than to state that the document showed that in Scotland sever.-eigths of the crimes that were there committed originated entirely from the abuse of spirits. If that statement was true, and he had no reason to doubt its veracity, lie really was at a loss to know what argument could avail in support of the proposed reduction of the duty on foreign spirits. The Noble Lord then quoted some extracts from Mr. M'Culloch's work to show the inex. pediency of reducing the duty on foreign spirits. Now he did hope that they would not pass the reduction of duty. For himself he opposed it, because he believed that the question of protection in this instance must take higher ground, and the case he argued as one involving not only protection to British industry, but of protection to the well-being and happiness of the British nation. He did hope that Gentlemen opposite would throw off the chains by which they had bound them selves to her Majesty's Government; and he did still more hope on this occasion that humanity and reason would triumph over a most pernicious and unnatural coalition. Mr. CARD WELL observed he would be quite willing to meet the Honourable Gentleman on the question of revenue, and he was happy to a g ree with the statement, that in the arithmetic of the revenue department, two and two would by no means make four, for they could never double the produce in the Exchequer by doubling the duty ; however, it by no means followed that if they diminished the duty they would diminish the produce to the Exchequer. They had plenty of historical proof of the truth of the latter assertion, and, as he would not weary the House by entering into a lengthened detailed state ment of them, he would only refer them to the report of the Commiesion,appointed to examine into the excise duties. After a few words from Mr. KNIGHT, The House divided, when there appeared For retaining the item 64 For the amendment Majority —29 The several items from brandy down to clover were then agreed to. On the latter article being proposed, Mr. ALLIX asked the Right Hon. Baronet not to take the duty of 10s. off clover. He instanced a case where the con tinuance of the protection would be of great use to the la bourers, and proceeded to ask if it was wished to drive away all the gentry of the country from their paternal mansions ? He would not divide the House upon it, as the Right Hon. Gentleman appeared to be all powerful, but in justice to his own feelings, he thought it necessary to protest against the reduction. to - the conduct of these measures. He (the - Right Hun. Baronet) had attempted to expedite the progress of these measures through the House by joining them with the cry of famine in Ireland.—(Protectionist cheers.) He made them have a reference to temporary pressure. And he had also com mitted the other error in practically dissevering them from those measures which, by his own confession, would have a tendency to alleviate and diminish the difficulties to which he was about to expose the agricultural interest.--( Hear, hear. ) Ho (Mr. O'Brien) did not put the question on the ground of old party, his connexion, nor political friendships—which alas ! were now no more—but he would persist in putting the question, and the Chancellor of the Exchequer, or some other Member of the Government then present would no doubt be able to answer it. He would ask in what manner the Govern ment proposed to conduct the public business during the present session ? He wished to know whether they intended to bring forward their new measures relating to the improve ment of the land before Easter, £0 that the agriculturists might have an opportunity of expressing their final opinions upon those measures which would expose them to the threatened competition. He might repeat that he was sorry to see that the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of her Majesty's Govern ment was not in his place—( Hear, hear)—but of course any Member of the Government would be able to answer the question which he had put, and if they did not choose to answer him the injury would not fall upon the shoulders of the protectionist party, but upon themselves in the opinion of every wise and intelligent man.—( Hear, hear. ) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that in the first place he must beg to apologise to the House for the ab sence of his Right Hon. Friend the First Lord of the Treasury. He could assure the House, he believed, from the constancy of his attendance—(Loud and repeated chearing)—and his Hon. Friend, he believed, would be inclined to give him credit for his attendance, nothing but public duty could prevent him from being then in his place.—( Hear, hear.) He (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) certainly wished that his Hon. Friend had, during the interval of seven weeks, which he stated had elapsed in the progress of this measure, availed himself of the observations wnich he had just made, when his Hon. Friend was present, and when he could have gone into detail as to the mode in which the public business was brought forward. In bringing forward the measures which were now before the House, his Right Hon. Friend had entered into considerable detail with respect to those measures ; and if he (the Chan cellor of the Eichequer) remembered right, in the course of the discussion which had taken place, great anxiety had been expressed on the part of Hon. Members to have a knowledge of the detail cf the Bills which had been proposed for the settle ment of the question. The object of the Bill referred to by the Hon. Members had been fully laid before the House ; and he believed that a copy of it was in the hands of every Mem ber of the House. With respect to the drainage of land and the improvement of highways, very great pro gress had been made in the drafts of those Bills. Then the Government would be in a better position, by the next Committee of Supply, to state what sum of money would be required for the maintenance of prisoners, and for the pay ment of officers connected with the poor-law, because some time would be required to obtain the necessary information. The estimates for miscellaneous services would be laid on the table of the House with as little delay as possible, but any gen tleman acquainted with the subject could make an accurate calculation of the sum which would be required. The Go vernment would have been happy, had public business per mitted, to have laid all these Bills simultaneously on the table of the House. He had sufficient experience of public business to know that this was quite impracticable. He might have been able to answer the questions respecting the proposed mea sures with regard to highways and drainage, if the Hon. Gentleman had given notice of his intention to put it. At all events he collie' assure him and the House that the Government had no desire to withold any information which might be re quired, and which they were in a position to give. He regretted, however, that the questions had been addressed to him, because he was not connected with some of those departments to which the questions had reference.—( Hear. ) GILBERT UNIONS.— FARNHAM UNION. Capt. PECHELL wished to ask the Right Hon. Baronet, the Secretary of State for the Home Department, whether he was aware that a petition had been presented from the authorities of the Farnham Union, which was a single parish under the Gilbert Act, complaining that the Poor-law Commissioners had issued notices that it was their intention to annex that parish with others under the Poor-law Act. He stated that this order was no doubt founded on the report of Assistant-Poor-law Commissioner Pigott with respect to this parish, which was laid on the table of the (louse a few days ago, and which they were prepared to show was erroneous. He therefore wishes to know whether the Right Hon. Baronet would institute an in quiry into the matter, and would stay any further proceedings until such investigation was made. Sir J. GRAHAM said he had reason to know such an order had been issued by the Poor-law Commissioners, and he be lieved their decision was sustained by the facts of the case. He had no rower to suspend the order, but he would call the attention of the Poor-law Commissioners to it, when the subject then dropped. PROTECTION TO LIFE (IRELAND) BILL. Mr. SHAW wished to know when Government proposed to fix the first reading of this Bill? They evinced great anxiety to remove protection on native industry, but they did not appear at all ready in their desire to afford protection to life and property in Ireland. Sir JAMES GRAHAM said he intended to fix the first reading of the Bill for the first order day after the second reading of the Corn Bill. THE TARIFF. The [loess: then proceeded with the tariff. Sir R. PEEL gave the Hon. Gentleman credit for sin cerity in holding the opinions which he did, bat he thought he carried his attachment to protection on clover a little too far, when he stated that the reduction of it would drive the gentry of the country from their paternal mansions. ---(Great laughter.) That, he thought, was carrying protection a little too far.—(Continued laughter.) So far, however, from this reduction being injurious to farmers, he considered that this duty of 73,0001. was one of the burdens on agriculture. No thing would be more beneficial to farmers than increasing their facilities for procuring clover-seed, and no duty that could be remitted would be so bcueficial to the 501. tenants. This was one of the clearest cases where the interests of agri culture would be benefited. Mr. ALLIX explained. He assured the Right Hon. Baronet he did not say that the reduction of the duty on clover, but the measures of her Majesty's Government would drive away the gentry from their paternal mansions. The resolution was then agreed to. The next item proposed was the reduction in oxen, cows, sheep, &c. Mr. W. MILES said that since 1842, when the alteration took place, the importation into this country of bullocks, cows, sheep, &c., had greatly increased. If this importation went on in the same ratio, there would be no chance for the English grazier in competition with the foreigner. The duty at pre sent on oxen was 1/., on cows 155., on calves 10s., on sheep 35., on lambs 25., on pigs 55., &c., and notwithstanding these duties the importation of foreign cattle was yearly increasing. On an animal weighing only six cwt. the English grazier suffered a loss of 3/. I2s. 6d., as the foreign grazier could im port it into this country, after paying all duties and charges, for that amount less. He would just take a comparative glance at the number of cattle imported into England for the last three years. On the sth Jan., 1844, the number of oxen, cows, sheep, &c., amounted altogether to 2,099 animals. On the sth Jun., 1845, the number was 7,764, and at the same period of 1846 the number was 34,426, which showed a most extraordinary increase. From this statement, therefore, the progress o: the increase from 1842 had been gradually getting greater. He would move the emission of the following articles, namely, oxen, cows, calves, beef fresh, and beef salted, and not hams. Colonel SIBTHORP felt the measures proposed by her Majesty's Ministers to be of so unsound and unstatesmanlike a character that he hoped their time was limited to no very dis tant period. He (Colonel Sibthorp) had a letter from his constituents, expressing regret that he did not accept the Chiltern Hundreds.—(Laughter.) They were sorry he had not dune so, because they would have shown the Right Hon. Baronet, that notwithstanding he would have sent down a nominee of his own, he (Colonel Sibthorp) would have been returned without one farthing expense. Mr. P. HOWARD thought the best course for the Govern ment to pursue in regard of cattle would be to have a registra tion of cattle imported. Last year there had been imported 15,000 oxen and cows, and by putting on a duty of Is. upon that amount it would produce 1,0001. By having such a sys tem of registration, it would be the means of ascertaining the precise number of the importation of cattle. Sir ROBERT PEEL had listened to the Hon. Member with that attention which his station demanded. He had also listened to the Hon. Member for Somersetshire. The Hon. Member for Carlisle said there had been 15,000 oxen and cows imported in the last year, but that did not prove that the price of meat had fallen. The contrary was the fact. It was proved on a former evening that the contract for meat in 1843 was 11. 18s. 4d., but in 1844 and 1845 it had more than doubled, and that did not show anything like the injury to the value of the arti cle that Hon. Members anticipated. There was Ireland, where the soil was more fertile than in this country, and where the wages of the labourer were much lower. The wages of the agricultural labourer in that country were no more, on average, than 10d. a day ; there was no land-tax, and no property-tax there; and if the people of this country could compete against Ireland, which exported so much—a country with so many advantages, where wages were so low—what need was there to fear a competition with other countries? What oc casion was there to fear a competition with Holland, where wages were lower, but where the soil was not so good as in our own country? It would be no consolation to tell them that they were being ruined by Ireland, and that, therefore, they should also allow themselves to be ruined by other countries ; but there was no such prospect, and the fact of Irelaisd not re ducing the price of meat in this market fully answerer every argument raised against this article of the tariff. The prise of meat had considerably advanced. Was not every butcher rab: - ing the price of meat ?—was it not undeniable that the rise of price was occasioned by the rate of consumption? By admit ting this importation, they would at least put down the extra vagant price demanded for this article of consumption. It had been said that there was a decrease of sheep in Smithfield mar ket during the last year, and was lie doing wrong in giving them a supply from abroad? It had been com plained of also, that there was a scarcity of the article upon which cattle was fed in this country, and he thought he was doing something to meet that want, in allowing the importation of barley at the proposed re duced rate, which would allow them the means of feeding their cattle, and so be better able to compete with the foreign markets. Considering, then, the repeated deficiency in the markets, to which he had alluded, he did think that the admis sion of cattle and sheep to this country from foreign countries, duty free, would confer a great benefit upon the agriculturists of this country, and therefore he should adhere to this proposi tion, for lie felt assured that by it he had not sacrificed the in terests of others. Mr, FINCH had heard a great deal said upon this subject, but he wen.:(l lust say in respect to the auguments adduced in reference to higil r erices, that the effect of the high duty being taken off the foreign siie'en and cattle, would only be to put money in the pocket of the fore, 72 importer, would and be therefore ed lth se sct s reduction of the revenue in thatres sub one, because the English public would rea.'.iv derive no -s o n assigned stantial benefit from it.—( Hear.) Anothei ree.. ' free of for the importation of foreign cattle so extensively, anu . duty, was that they Were of a description so inferior that te_ English cattle dealer had nothing to fear from them.—( Hear, hear.) But then other Hon. Members had argued that the breeders of fore;gn cattle had been so successful, that in a few years they would be able to compete with the first breeders of cattle in the world. Now, he begged to tem;nd the House that the English breeder of cattle had suffered nsuch by . the destructive effects of the murrain in the cattle in his neigh bourhood. Well, then, he would like to ask if the effect of this should be to raise prices, would the Right Hon. Baronet be ready to put the duty on again, in the event of the prices becoming low again ?—( Hear, hear.) It was quite true, that the Irish beasts could not competewith the English beasts in the same way that the foreign beasts slid; but it was equally true, that the foreign beasts would now be enabled by this Bill to enter into successful competition with the cattle of this coun try, to the prejudice of the English agriculturists. If, there fore, those reductions were to take place, what may they not anticipate in the shape of reductions of the same sort to the prejudice of the English farmer ? If foreign cattle were thus to be introduced into the English market the English dealer would be mine. There was at this'rooment an actual tax of 31. 10s. upon every head of English cattle brought into the English market, as had been proved by evidence taken before the House of Lords. The Hight Hon. Gentleman, the Chancellor of the Fxchenuer, laughed, but that. only showed that he knew nothiug whatever of the agricultural condition of the eountry.—(Hear, hear.) But he begged to remind the Right liori. Gentleman that when he took into account the slifference between the actual price of barley and the tax upon ' malt, it would appear qt:jteptain that what he had stated was the fact. The CHANCELLOR of the EX . CHEknowlQU edgeEß said upo , li n e did neural this not pretend to poss ess much 1.; d the Hon. Member that last subject, .but be .t ye s a e r n a ia l l 3a tf l or was fatting broughtbeged in n o theirnbarytetinlwe''.hnich to enable the farmers to Upon that arose a dispute as to whether malt or raw barley would be most benefieissl for that purpose. The result was, that an agreement was entered into for trying the experiment with those two articles, and it was found that the cows fed upon raw barley P gave m bearorei milk tha is n 'those fed upon malt.--( Hear, hear.) apers ng out th statement would be laid upon the table of the House, and he trusted they would satisfy the Hon. Member. Sir JOHN T 1 RItELL said be had heard a good deal upon the subject of malt and barley as food for cattle, but Majesty should i at) to Pii the Right Lion. Daroket at tho headot her I On the question of silk-gut being proposed, Mr. CAYLEY objected to the duty being reduced cn that article, and said it was erroneous to snppose that the working classes were in favour of the Government measure, for meet ings of silk weavers had been held in Middleton, Manchester, Leeds, Ormskirk, and other places, at which resolutions were passed in opposition to the Government measure. The Go. vernment might do what they liked with the farmer and the landed proprietor, but he trusted they would not sacrifice the poor and impoverished weaver.—( Hear, hear. Dr. 130WHING wished to acid a few words to what had fallen from the Hon. Member who had just sat down. The silk labourers of Lyons had addressed a very rettlarkeble dom.- meat to the Chamber of Commerce, in which they stated that they were poor and were considered to be ignorant, but neither their I:etiKly nor their ignorance had prevented them from ascertaining that restrictions on commerce were injurious to the interests of the people, and that they were deeply in terested in the ektension of Markets for their indi.tstry, The silk labourers in France represented the same opinions as the inhabitants of the cotton districts in England; and they con sidered, that so for hem t.'rotection being a blessing, it was a bane to industry. He (Dr. Bowring) knew not why the silk manufacturers sliould be, worse treated th a n p ersoe s e ngaged in other branches of manufacture.--(Hear, hear.) 'The subject of the debate was silk, and now the matters under considera tion were fishing implements; but he found that Hon, Gen tlemen were in the habit of making speeches in the course of the discussion which had reference to matters which were al ready disposed of, and be thought that such a waste of time might well be saved to the Hoek , . Mr. P. BORTEIWICK thought that the speech of the Hon. Member for Yorkshire had been mainly valuable from the illustration it had derived from the speech of the Hon. Member for Bolton (Dr. Bowring), a speech which he did not hesitate to say was alike creditable to himself, the country, and the House.—(Cbeers.) But in that speech it was openly asserted the weavers of Lyons and tl n ie th p oe e f o t p h le e of s Franco ilk ta g e , en h e : rally were entirely in favour of free tride, H a ou n s d e st s a a k y e a o n f y w th h i i n ch g he wits anxious to disabuse the House.,ropTeher cloluorns.eMteom,bilesreufosrs os L an i i s dt k i: e iw a s rd su passed, a sat i s d iso , end d , a o atn n adl o l t o n v,,r. a t h l s i c a n t og s tu i d et e shte o i o f , the silk trade on the question of the silk gut. The Hon. Member had said that the silk trade was most important to France ; but was not the trade of the colonies of England of the greatest importance to this country ? But let not this state of confusion of everything, and a settl ement of nothing, be made a merit of.—(Hear, hear.) The effect of this change would not do any good in proportion to the evil that would follow it. He had to apologise for having so long trespassed on the attention of the House. Mr. MUNTZ said he would vote for this measure because he would vote for the repeal of all duties; but he would just say a word about sine, as it had been alluded to by his Hon. Friend near him, and he hoped he would allow him to pia that question upon its proper footing. Ile (Mr. Muntz) had often come here to learn what he ought to have known before. And with regard to the zinc trade, he certainly thought he knew a g on o e od in d a e n a abo ut workedie A n it t Ti o ile e t t i i y m4 , that trade purpose e a o s the f confined Consuming miu t g o ny andat the result was tkat he Eittt manufactured himself into the G a;ette.—(Laughter.) There .ftnntber person in this p..-- country, t country, and that rrAg when the Rine nines in Silesia, in Poland heti su.pended working; but it the Hon, Member :a:coca:van:inn: npeevrciordmawcheea: col n l oW 'give . 1 . 447 1 . M 4"..:;; at that price he szietsld contract with him fur 1,000 ton;. 'I htre era:; one other point which he wished to mention. The whole tradO carried on in brass had been entirely destroyed by the bringing in of foreign zinc, which, from its cheapness, suspended the original manu factures of brass. He was as anxious as any man for the repeal of the corn-laws, as well as the repeal of another laws.—(Loud laughter.) lie meant to sa y the re pe al of all other duties, but he would wish them t o be fairl y ad j usted while the y were suffered to exist.—Agreed to. On the proposed duty of 15s. on spirits and strong waters being read from the chair, lAir. THOMPSON objected, and said that by reducing the duty on Cognac brandy to 15s , which was nearly one-third, the revenue of the customs would suffer a deficiency of 400,0001 Vismally. He did not knout OA what groauds it was proposed Government whether he did not consider himself answerable in a great measure for the falling off in the supply of cattle that Lad Cuske place by reason o. the introduction into this country of tee ti'S','Zase of cattle ?.—( Laughter.) Hon. Gentlemen might laueli, but he begged to tell them that the introduction of foreign castle into this country with diseased lungs and other diseased organs caused the spread of that disease amongst the cattle in England, and was a great means cf preventing graeiet e from breeding cattle. Air. VILLIERS said that the Hon. Member who had just sat dow n had dwelt at great length, and with great eloquence, upon the subject of diseased cattle; but he had forgotten to • t the 11,11 S 3 that there was a time when he made a speech in which he said that the farmers of this country had nothing to frar f.um American competition, because, in fact, the cattle that came from that country wete in such a condition that you could clearly read the newspapers through them— (Laughter)—and as to the American pork, that lost more than half its value on the passage. He (Mr. 'Villiers) had heard a I great deal said about the importance of those imports to the dealers in them, but not one word had been uttered in reference to the poor people for whose benefit their prices had been re dueed.—(Hear, hear.) There could be no doubt that this measure would pass, and lion. A:embers opposite had no doubt of it—(Cheers and laughter)—but he would ask them were they aware of this fact, that there were very many of the labouring classes in this country who for forty years had not tasted meat?—( Hear, hear. ) Sir JOHN TROLLOPE begged to offer a few observa tions to the House. The Right Honourable Baronet at the head of her Alajestyle Government had loudly cheered the remark of an Hon. Gentleman, with reference to the disease in the breed of cattle. Now he recollected when that Right Hon. Gentleman introduced the income-tax he told the coun try they should save it out of their style of living. He hoped the Right Hon. Gentleman had suffered his part of that.—( A augh. ) The Right Hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer had adverted to experiments, but he should say that they were prevented by the excise from carrying out these experiments. alarm ai sr l he permitted withep importedoe rdrn, respect fae t r t st o e pt : e l heet t aotbor same s ot a ah y de , i,dihavingctoshtoerof the et dht ieo a dn d i o s oo o f,u r c a ns ea e otth e t la x oedi ea p N nx i dg i w ein he c i re e f a , t i o e th ud a m m t t t i , i e g , f , r themselves, bat on the representation of their constituents.— ( Hear, hear.) They had been treated to a corn-law lecture by the Hon. Member for Wolverhampton, though he (the Hon. Member) could not see what that subject had to do with that under discussion. The Gentlemen on his side of the question were in favour of every description of encouragement, cultivating the land extensively and feeding cattle, because they were aware that from those sources sprung cheap food for the public.—, Hear, hear.) And it was only by the perpetual in terference of the Government in the matter that such bene ficial effects were checked, as the Right Hon. Baronet, the First Lord of the Treasury, would, ere many years, discover to be the face.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. P. BORTHWICK said that, in 1942, the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of the Government, in introducing his tariff, told them, in reply to an observation made by an [lon. Member, to the effect that Spain, owing to the richness o f it s soil, would import cattl e , that he (Si r R. Peel) felt assured a single hoof would never cross the Bay of Biscay. though the result was that, in that very year, several head of cattle were imported from Spain. They had heard it stated by the Hon. Member for Wolverhampton, that, owing to the depression in agriculture, the wages of the agricultural labourers were low ; yet they were going to improve the condition of the agricultu rists by a further permission of articles of foreign growth free of duty. It was impossible, in his opinion, to fix the gentlemen of the Anti-Corn-law League to any certain principle.— They had, to be sure, succeeded in converting two cabinets by means the most extraordinary that ever the country witnessed. They proclaimed in the face of the country that their determi nation was to benefit all classes ; but how did they set about doing that ? Why, by depressing that class en which the pros perity of the rest of the country depended.—( Hear, and a laugh.) lie wished to ask the gentlemen what reason they had given in defence of the proposition which they maintained ? But he would not pursue the argument, as he merely rose to ask the Hon. Member for Wolverhampton how it was that hie ar gument so completely . contradicted itself? (Laughter.) K ...sing the distinguished ability of which the Hon. Member IN as possessed, he (Mr. Borthwick) could not believe the Hon. Gentleman was serious when he rose to proclaim his opinion that the same measures could, at the sane time, and under tie same circumstances, raise the prices of corn and beef, and ea() it, press them.—( Hear, and laughter.) .after a few words from Mr. VILLIERS, which were in audible in the gallery, owing to the cries for a division, Sir J. WALSH expressed his regret that Hon. Gentlemen at the opposite side should have attributed motives of a selfish nature to Gentlemen who happened to be at his side of the question, though they had ever contended that they repre ed the great national interest of the country, with which all other interests were interwoven, and still believed that they were contending for the benefit of all classes, as well as Hon. Gentlemen opposite.—(Hear, hear.) It was true that in the present moment the price of cattle was higher than it had been for many years; but if the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of the Government had been called upon six or eight months since to introduce his measure, he would have spoken very differently.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") He should express his regret that that Right Hon, Gentleman should have thought fit to disturb the arrangements entered into by him in 1932, and which occasioned the evil effects which the trade at that moment were only relieving themselves from. The case of Ireland had been mentioned. Now he saw no parity whatever in the case of Ireland as compared with foreign countries, as Ireland was an integral portion of the empire.— ( Hear, hear.) The great article of produce in the south of Ireland was cattle, and if the value of these was depressed great evils would ensue, and the state of the country be made much worse than it was at present. The measures of the Govern ment, instead of improving the condition of Ireland, would only aggravate its miseries,and place the population in a much worse position than they were even now. On these grounds he must oppose the present alteration. Mr. ELLIOT YORKE only rose to protest against Honourable Gentlemen on the Opposition benches using such language as they did in reference to the great interest which he, and those on that side of the House, represented. He felt it his bounden duty to oppose the pre sent motion, as well as all others that went to reduce the amount of protection to agriculture. The prognostications of the Right Hon. Baronet on this subject had not been made out, and therefore the change was not justifiable nor expedient. Mr. KNIGH TLEY said the cause of the present dearness of cattle was the unhealthiness of last summer, which destroyed a great quantity of stock. If the present alteration was carried, the effect would be, that the home market would be swamped by cattle from Russia and the north o f Europe. Great facili ties would be offered to sending cattle to this country, from the railroads that were being constructed in those countries. Mr. CUMMING BRUCE was against the alteration. He had received a letter from an extensive grazier, who stated that the home market would be filled with lean cattle if this alteration was made ; and especially that the Highland cattle rearers would be ruined by the importation of foreign stock. By referring to the importations that had already taken place, they had evidence how the market would be affected. In 1844 the number of cattle imported was 1,521 ; in 1845 it was 4,9°0; while during the last year it was 16,870. He most cordially supported the amendment. Lord G. BENTINCK rose amidst loud cries of "Divide, divide." He said, he supported the Right Hon. Baronet when he altered the duty on cattle, at the time it was a prohibitive duty • but he could not agree to the present alteration. He could look upon ten per cent. as a prohibitive duty, and to that ho was disposed to adhere. In answer to the Hon. Mem ber for Wolverhampton, who had complained that the people of this country did not get a supply of meat, he would inform the House that the population of this country eat more meat than the people of any other country in Europe. The average con sumption of the people of this country was per annum 92 lbs. each person; while no other country in Europe consumed more on an average than 50 lbs. As he had resisted the other portions of the tariff, that did ac ay with protection to agriculture, so must he oppose the present, and vote with his Hon. Friend below him, who had made the motion. If they were defeated in that House, lie hat lvtter hopes of the House of Lords, and should Hon. Members be sent back to their constituents, judging from the recent elections that had taken place, he had no doubt his party who stood up on behalf of native industry, would come b ick strengthened, and with such power as to put a stop to the ruinous policy that was now prevailing with the Govern ment.—( Cheers.) The House then divided, when there appeared : For the amendment Agaiast it Majority several items in the tariff having been agreed to without oppu-i sun, On the proposition that the duty on foreign hides should be Ins ered, Mr. LAW SON said that he should have to offer onse an two ohssevatiotts on this subject. He intended i t . o o T t ree r ,. The am, ndrnent, that the word "hides" "' that in no part of the country were hides, the bywochbkeeintal working cl asses, o u l, r h ilt e d been ouhi state,ai at,erondt introduction :w h o ni perfectt hn t o f obreaeniegefirn safety, titan before the duty had been altered, shoes to be had etc h th a e d reduction G of en d t u le ty m o e n n with advantages. The t r e n L a d t o ed no least l foreign ig t e h o e L r b e o f ir o dd r e e ts hb to eag t eb a me eboe extent afto with whom he (Mr. Lawson) acted, with their new-born zeal for the working classes. He could inform the Noble Lord that their zeal was not new-born, and, as regarded himself, he could only say that in the proposed alterations of 1832, lie had moved that native manufactures, where protected already against foreign competition, should return that protection. In the word very same spot he now proposed the amen dment that word " hides" be left out of the present tariff. they well knew that one fact was bett7 t r b than Sir JOHN TYRRELL rose to second the a a eir a cumstance which argu ments, he should trouble the House with theonudsamnednt.As a clergyman, one of his i h s a s t e e d and ten had eons. b t i e t e o n e o c t o s m . m communicated c r a e t related that Piharntsaelffarmer in the neighbourhood, ' ten more. d alterations that he h o a f t d t i h s e rn se iss m in e g n and their further proposed a man of undoubted capitals was so ha a d lar a m lr e e d ady by d t i h sm e What made thi n s o a r n d t e h r e was, point t of his workmen, ancestors had been in the employment of this farmer and his predecessors for at least 100 years. He should like to know case and the wa from Gentlemen opposite, or perhaps some Member of the Government would answer the question, how these men were to be " absorbed," for that he believed was the word with them, now that they had lost their former work? He (Sir 'hn Tyrrell) shrewdly suspected that tl e workhouse, in that • "ilar cases, could best toll the tale. These persons he el were in the habit of attending the meetings of '-w League, and subscribing, to their dogmas. oromisecl " cheap loaf" bad blinded their and sin. was inform,. the Atti-Corn-i... He suspected that the `n consequence of understandings. the men had been dismissed , rali ed. Sir G. CLERK presumed s- of the uncertainty which from their employment in coneequen , the protectionists, at present prevailed—(Great cheering trs- and which was of considerable duraticoon;i,io;.i. 0t,, ,,e sentence ) which it was impossible to hear the tr d • 11 •t -fh 1 on. Alember for KnaresboroZth (Renewed w a ct s , e t e h r e i n u g n . c ) er trn t ? ) , had complained that the tariff of 1842 had been productive of no advantages to those Did the Hon. 111emher mean to say that the introduction of t h e material which those persons used in their trade' in large quantities and at a cheaper rate, was not a benefit to 02ern ? The return of the quantity of hides imported would demon strate this fact. in the first year after the alteration, they had imported above 500,000 cwt., in the second year 600,t,:. 1 ° cwts., and in the last year 700,000 cwts. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the House divided. when there appeared— For the original motion Against it Majority for Ministers On our return to the gallery, we found that the article of linen had been proposed. Mr. LAWSON raid that as the linen trade was very exten sive in the borough which he had the honour to represent, he should think it unbecoming in him if he were to remain silent while he heard the dearest interest of his constituency interfered with. The growth of home flax had enabled the manufac turers in this country to compete with the foreigner. He had no doubt that they would be enabled to do so after the abolition of the duty, but they could only do so at the expense of their work people. During the last autiren he had been waited upon by a body of workmen, who stated to him that their masters, who were linen manufacturers, had promised them an increase in their wages of ten per cent. This prtstniSe, however, had never been kept, and therefore the woilonrn had turned out. Their masters had informed them that they were unable to pay the workmen the required ad vance, to consequence of the badness of trade. These workmen appticd to him (Alr. Lalveou) to give theca a Itlbicriptioa CRIME IN ENGLAND. Mr. JOHN O'CONNELL said he wished to put a question to the Right Hon. Baronet the Secretary of the Home De partment with respect to certain returns relating to crime in England ; but as that Right Hon. Baronet was not in his place, perhaps the Right Hon. Gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer would be good enough to answer his question. He (Mr. John O'Connell) moved a short time ago for similar re turns, relating to crime in England as were laid before the House with regard to Ireland, but the Right Honourable Bat onet the Secretary for the Home Department said it was impossible to give the English returns with the same fulness as those relating to Ireland. Now lie wished to know whether they were likely soon to be put in possession of these returns„ and whether the Government had objected to state the reasons why they could not be given with the fulness of the Irish returns? t related to a depart- Vember, but the House would see . t _ connected. CHANCELLORtha T t he hewas theEXCHEQUER hat question of the Hon.regretted unableto answer f sw t e h r e . ILEGE. Mr. AGIN"' m ' ent of the G i o t v ß e E rn A m c en a t Wal not a E_ W words in ‘ ;;; L a i rcl to he t p h e e d that House who h a d been misrepresented by a morning journal, p t h e e r I o l n o m u l s f e e e w l g l d s all of o a w i‘ h ie im mb to er sa o y f which was a breach of ttc privileges of that Hoi,ise. hi the Morning Chronicle of Saturday's date he (Mr. Ar,lionby) !vas made to say that with respect to the motion of the izin3_, for Finsbury (Mr. Duncombe); ht; :Vas sure it was not understood, and that no one cared whether it was or not. Now he did not wish to cast any censure on the reporters, for he could well understand the great difficulty they had to contend with from their position in the House, but he thought it due to the Honourable Member for Finsbury to make an ex planation, and state what he really had said. What he stated was, that the Honourable Member had so shadowed his subject that it was very difficult to make out what the Hon. Member meant. lie could assure the Honourabli Member that he never meant to have it understood that h. z was not worthy of being heard; he could not say sa, for Coe abilitxwith which h e a l ways conducted his subjects thro, igh this 4191110 4441 giisxl for him it; tont attelail 9 / 1 11241 Mpg' 4t. ; usual eig 4 l L'a I :;,ce. , ut on hale: Sir Edwar4 riahness 113,8 'ales, AI, iICeS; ;ardens.. • a t 13uck!vg 11. . oy al 11 ', i g hnrss t" . r.tlaisu Lady FatOY e d9 t 1, and fl' Lady C °l 'd lord , 0, ~..An t. on• was in 6 ended iu tb . evonig• Linculu bo bad an in: r, y esterds), L;TTE• 846. ke, 3 w Zuble„/ aa ci Bead PAES II4I mas Carnegie, s lle, Esq., of 'usury.. 1, Esq., 1.1, tbf th. ogice ED THE LA`' h Dec. 1845. Dec. 1845.5 t Dec. 18 Dec. Is 4o * 1845. nber, 1 07 ' 345. 845. 1845. c. 180. , n b er , 154 0 A. Tem ber.l B4. '" Pec. 184 5 . Dec. 18 45 ' e. 1815 18-_ • 5 • . e , ,ember I'. 184.5. 1845. c. 16 1845' 45 ' D. C. ;Dec 1845. z. 1545. Ist Dece nw `" 21st PIO°. Dec. 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He was for protecting the native industry of the country, and he, for on , , preferred Scarborough linen to German linen, Leeds woollen goods to Belgium, and York clogs and shoes to Paris articles.—(Hear, hear, and laughter.) He moved, as an amendment, that the word " linen" be left out. Mr. DUNCOMBE said he represented a town where there were extensive linen manufactories, and certainly he had heard nothing from his constituents to lead him to believe that they were opposed to the Government measure. From what he knew of them, they were adverse to protection in any shape, and did not dread competing with the foreigner.—( Hear. ) The amendment was negatived without a division, and the original motion was agreed to. 'TIMBER DUTIES. On the timber duties beim , . proposed, Mr. MITCHELL move d' that the duty on foreign hewn timbcr Ls reduced 10s. per load on the sth day of April, 1546, and other kinds of wood in proportion. Mr. CARDWELL said that the principal object in taking cff the duty on an article, particularly the article of timber, was to create benefits, not for the foreign producer, but rather for the consumer of our own country • and he thought that h e might fairly take the authority of the Hon. Gentleman him self against the position which he had submitted to the House in support of his amendment. The lion. Gentleman had told them, that if notice could have been given at an early period of the winter, there would have been a very large importation of timber from Russia and Prussia into the English markets ; but if he rightly recollected the Right Hon. Gentleman's ob servations, he must admit that large importations need not be expected at the present moment, if the original motion were carried. The House of Commons were now called upon to determine at what period, with a due regard to the revenue and the consumer of this country, they might abo lish the duty on timber; and he contended, that by the first admission of the Hon. Gentleman, supported, and not im paired by the second statement which he had made, he hzd his authority for saying that the House of Commons was called upon to resist the amendment. After a few further observa tions from the Hon. Gentleman and Sir John Hanmer in sup port of the original motion, Mr. MITCHELL withdrew his amendment. Lord G. BENTLNCK suggested that the further considera tion of the timber duties should be postponed till Monday next—( Cries of " Ok, oh," and'' Go on")—and then the de bate might he probably concluded next week.—(Oh, oh," ansl " Go on.") Sir R. PEEL hoped that the prophecy just made would be realised.—( Hear, hear, and laughter.) He believed then that he might take it for granted that the debate on the second reading would be concluded on Friday week. The question was, whether they would prefer having six nights' debate upon the tariff or the' Corn Bill. Ile thought that the best arrange ment that could be made would be (as there was an important motion with regard to railways, with which he would not inter fere)—( Hear, hear)—to take the timber duties on Friday, and begin the debate on Monday, with the general understand ing that the speeches would be so shortened as to admit of the realisation of the prophecy of the Noble Lord.—(Hear, hear, and laughter. RAILWAY LEGISLATION. Mr. PARKER, in consequence of a suggestion from Sir R. Peel, consented to postpone the consideration of the motion of which he had g►ven notice relative to the subject of the necessity of some furiher legislation in railway matters. The Coalwhippers Act was then read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Monday week. The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at a Quarter to Twelve o'clock. RAILWAY COMMITTEES. (YESTERDAY.) GROUP IX. Members—Lord Wonky, chairman; Mr. R. Spooner, Mr. Milled Gaskell, Mr. Archbold, and Colonel Thomas Austell. This Committee net to-day; at twelve o'clock, when the case for the opposition to the Ediuburgli and Glasgow Amendment and Branches was resumed. _ _ The followinglllCthe Glasgow Harbour (Grand Junction Ter minus Railway) was annulled from the list of Bills given yesterday, it having been just referred to this Committee. Mr. William Harvey, a proprietor and partner in two of the distilleries ou the banks of the canal, was the first witness examined. The ground had been fenced or leased for the works ou the banks of the canal, with the right of road way in front for their accommodation. The proposed branch would be a serious inconvenience, as it touched the canal, at the angle at which Mr. Gourlay's distillery was placed, while in front of Messrs. Ridson and Borrow's works it was but six feet from the canal. The branch also touched on the footpath at another point. It was his opinion that the (raffle on that side of the canal arising from the public works would be seriously incommoded. A. great amount of the grain used by the distillers. cause by the canal, and would have to cross the branch line into the works, as would also the goods sent from the works by the canal, and hence a great impediment might arise. In fact, the inconve nience would be so great, that the effect would be to shut up the works altogether. The lice of railway would be to him no benefit whatever, as he would have to use cartage as much as before. This would also in his opinion be the case with the proprietors of the other works. The south bank of the canal would be much preferable. and the crossing of the canal by the branch would be avoided; and in this opinion he believed all the proprietors on the north bank coin eided. Further, the branch would he of use in supplying the works with coal. The witness was cress-examined at seine length by Mr. /MILL, in the course of which he maintained in substance what he stated in his examination in chief.' Mr. Wm. Geddies Bonn, was next examined—Tie was a proprietor of the glass bottle works at Port Dundas, at which the traffic was vory great. He was decidedly of opinion that the branch along the bank of the canal would net only impede and inconvenience hiss bat all the other proprietors of works on the banks. The CUAIRMAN said the Committee were of opinion that the peti tioners had made out a case of great inconvenience to their works, and, therefore, they (the Committee) did not require any other evi dence on that point. It would be for the promoters to show that the convenience and advantage to the public would be so great as to justify this inconvenience of the petitioners. Mr. M`.'extr, intimated they were prepared to do so if it should be found necessary. Mr. FORSTTU begged to remind the Learned Gentleman that his case was closed. Mr. Saunderson was then called and examined, to the effect, that from his knowledge of the trade, he did not think the traffic coming off or going on the canal at Port Dundas, would bo carried by the branch railway, but be still continued, and therefore that such a branch was uncalled for. Mr. Hoer then briefly addressed the Committee, to the effect that it had not been shown that the convenience of the braneh to the public was at all commensurate with the disadvantage it would im pose on private individuals. If there was no traffic there would be no inconvenience, and the line was not required ; if the traitic was censiderable, then it had 'seen clearly shown the inconvenience would be very great to the manufacturers on the bank of the canal, all of whom opposed the branch, as entirely unnecessary. Mr. A.usrlN then replied in review of the evidence, showing the great advantage it would be to the inhabitants of Glasgow. With re spect to the alleged inconvenience of the carriages passing in front of the works, he referred the Committee to the fact of tram-roads being laid down on crowded quays ; that a Bill was now before Parliament to give the power of laying down a tram-road in a dock in Liverpool; and that a Bill would iu all likelihood be brought before this Committee by which the trustees of Glasgow harbour sought to lay down a tram road there. Besides, the evi dence of Mr. Kyle went to show that the inconvenience would not be very great. Still, in order to meet any inconvenience, he was willing to insert clauses to regulate the passage of the trains, to prevent steam power; and, further, he was willing, should the Committee require it, that chic lines at right angles with the branch, and ill connexio❑ with the several works, should be made at tha expense of the promoters. The room was then cleared. On our re-admission the CHAIRMAN intimated that the preamble of that portion of the Bill relating to the Port Dendas branch was not proved. With regard to the other parts of the Bill they reserved their decision, as they wished to get some further information front Mr. ➢tiller respecting the estimates of the Queenferry branch. It was intimated that Mr. Miller was unavoidably detained before the Lords' Standing Orders' Committee, and the further consideration was put off till to-morrow. The Committee then proceeded to the consideration of The General Terminus and Glasgow Harbour, The Glasgow Mineral Harbour, and The Glasgow Harbour (Grand Junction Terminus Bills). Messrs. Ilihlyanl, Austin, Sergeant Wranghatn, and Hope, ap lwared for the first Bill; Messrs. Talbot, Monteith, and Russell, for the second ; and Sergeant Bellasis and Mr. Carrel for the third. Mr. Hutment) then briefly opened the case for the general terminus and Glasgow Harbour Line, with which the other two are competing lines. Having stated the object of the promoters, that it was in tended to connect the harbour with the railways on the south bank of the Clyde, and contrasted its advantages over the other two schemes, both in gradients, curves, and public convenience, The Committee adjourned till to-morrow at twelve o'clock. On thel application of Mr. Talbot, the Caledonian and Glasgow Termini and Branches Bill was also agreed to be considered, to con• nexion with time three previous schemes. GROUP XIY. The Select Committee on this group reassembled at the anal hour this morning in the Lonl Chancellor's evert. 'Westminster Hall, Mr. Protheroe in the chair. The other members of the Committee were Lord Ern'pi, Mr. (Irogan, General Lygon, and Mr. Jehn C'Connell. NORTH PENT LINZ. rMr. Sergeant WHAN6UhIf opened the ease for the promoters of this line. The object of the Bill was to authorise the construction of a line of railway from London through the district of North Kent to ta d b district, Dover and Deal. Upon the necessity and importance of such line, traversing as it did a large and active population, he might truly say a locomotive population, there could not be a doubt entertained. '1 , :l f ; e thepopulation naval and military Ofth e North litary Beat uibiisinn independently of the metropolis , was about 400 , 000 , and it con. tallied many at Woolwich, Chatham, and Sheerness, while the line at the same time passed through towns of such importance as Maidstone and Canterbury, and ports of welt importance as Dover and Deal. It required, therefore, no argument in support of such line in the present advancing state of the railway system ; indeed, its importance was fully admitted by a Committee of the House. when the South-Eastern Bill was passed, but at that time there were two insuperable obstacles to the making of such a line, namely, the crossing of the Medway, at Rochester, and the difficulty, or, as it was thought then, the impossibility of tunnelling under the Brough ton Hills, near to Faversham, lint it had since been fully ascertained tkat these obstacles were not so great as they were originally sup. posed to be, and it was now only for the Committee to decide which of the two proposed lines was the best for serving the wants of the district. The line he had the honour of sup porting commenced in the neighbourhood of Southwark-bridge, in the Berough, and he might here mention that there was a project before Parliament for extending the line across the bridge into the very heart of the City, and the line would also be connected with a short branch of the South-Western Company, which would carry it to the Hungerford-bridge station, and to the centre of the western part of the metropolis. From Southwark-bridge the line passed in the direction of Peckham and Camberwell, and then, by a tunnel, through Blackheath. A small loop was thrown out at this point, which would pass through Woolwich and rejoin the main lino on Plurupstead-eommon. The main line passed under Woolwich-com mon, thence over Plumpstead-common, and on through the populous villages of Crayford, to the town of Dartford, and thence to Gravesend. Passing from Gravesend it arrived at the Medway, which it crossed in an unobjeetionable manner, through Rochester, and along the banks of the river by means of a viaduct, which would be an ornament rather than an injury to the town. From Rochester it ran to Chatham, thence to Sittingbourts, In the immediate neighbourhood of Milton, and then on to Faver sham, at which point they had laid down an alternative line, to enable them either to avoid or to pass through that town. Front Faversham the line made for Canterbury, and after passing the Broughton Hills, they threw out a branch towards Ramsgate, for facilitating the communication between the Isle of Thauet and the metropolis. Now the present distance front London to Canterbury by the existing line was 85 miles. The North Kent Line would re. duce the distance to 57 miles, while the project of the South-Eastern Company would only reduce it to sixty-two miles or thereabouts. From Canterbury there was a fork line, one running to Dover and the other to Deal; the latter was sixteen miles in length, and the former fourteen. Tire existing distance between the metropolis and three t* Dyer was eighty-eight miles , the North Kent line would reduce it t o seventy-three. The estimate o f the line was about and three quarters. The Learned Counsel conclud e e , d i. , millions .Lsteca to o ng that snow he wished; before producing the ungin t eei e •, e ..totegn of traffic which it i give th e importance of that distric t, and the passed. Mr. AUSTIN said be would admit that the traffic of the district fully justified the making of a line through North Kent, and traffic evidence of a general character need not therefore be gene into. The 0- • ele tra ffic evidence of any imp ortance, for the Committee to be ' HI :s ion of, was that wh ich was of a comparative nature, and poss e `hove that the traffic of one r oute was less or greater than 'ended to ,_ 11'. Sergeant M :.!ieene consented, after what h ad fall en from his !hatat of the or: r ' eon the traffic evidence, but he should pro the population of the districts through .. Learned Friend, to aba 2 pose to put in a table, shoe ,g which the line passed. , eatable being put in. Mr. ArsTre hail no objection to Slit.. Mr. Sergeant Meerne understood that the necessity for a line running through North Kent was admitted by all parties. Mr. AUSTlN—Certainly it is. The Cnentsies said it might be taken for granted that the extent of population and truffle in the North Kent district Was quite enough tojustify the construction of a railway. Mr. Sergeant I'd CIIPILY submitted then that the only question to he decided by the Cemmittee was what Company shou ld be en- Itrusted with the making of the line. Mr. Ausnis—Just so. Mr. Sergeant Muarne—Then we propose to call witnesses to prowl that the North Kent line is prefered by the mejority of the inhae bitants of North Kent to the scheme of the South-Eastern Company, Accordingly witnesses from r:11 parts of North Kent were exa mined to prove that the people were decidedly against the South- Eastern, and in favour of the North Keut. Mr. JOHN O'CONNELL objected to the time of th individualsComite being taken up with examining witneases as to their opinion of the merits of the one line over the other, to show that they liJICW Iran couYeristiona they had bad with Wars that thus others 15• 546; 1 184'1' 3. 181 45, 8 . 45• ;81' s4:l. 54 5 ; 184'.