The Sun. — London, England, 1805-05-15 00:00:00

' k and lal think, if, , front Other eireulu taneet) there was no objeetio n * to coniplying with t h e d eman d s of :!!! the Catholics, and if by a wish they could be carried ' !.! into efrea, I own, Sir, I see none of those dangers f! 'which have been urged by some Gentlemen, nor do I think t h at the introduetioti of a certa i n proport io n of Cath o li cs i nto the Imperial Parliament wouldbe likely t o b e , produftive of any influence or effect d e _ ,i irimental or injuriouson the welfare of the State, or the s a f ety and security of the Constitution. Bot,- Sir, in delivering this frank opinion, I. do not shut my tyt, to this convietion, that a Catholic, however Honourable his intentions may be, must feet anxious to advance the interests of his religion—it is the nature of min : he may disclaim and renounce this with f or a t i me, but there is no man who is at all , acquainted with the operations of the human heart who does not know that the Catholic must feel that 'anxiety Whenever the power and the opportunity may he favourable to him. But if these guards and con., ditionsto which I havt4alluded had been applied, and which, could my, wishes have been accomplished, it w ould hav e b een my e ndeavour to have applied, I Attnly believe no danger would have existed, and no i;ijuty could have been apprehended. I thought so m oil molds diffetent from t h ose w hi ch have been stated by others : not because as Catholics they had bee n engaged in any thin of the sc enes preceding-- the Rebfllinn :I do not however, t o say, the Catholics were nut engaged, 890 in it in gr ea t er n umbers f or the fe os that lis ye been stated.— ! g ' f° ther ; though Jacobin principles Wer e the fo undation of the Rebelli on , yet I do not mean to 1?,,I "'m that the influence of th e P r i estr, t h emselves .". with j4,, , ,,bi n p r i nc i p l es, might not have rg,lltiwaed the evli, though they were not the cause i ,,,! 1 , My idea, Sit, was not to apply Tests to the ta w ta u" tenets of the Catholics, but Tests applicable - -.'"at was the source and foundation of the evil— jeto render'thi Priests, instead of making them the tzurn ents of poisoning Ate minds of the people, i peoden t in surue sort upon the Gnvernment,and thus t,nka as it 'were between the Gsivernmerit and the 4 enpie, That, Sir, wuuld have been a wise and a earttPtchenaive system ; that would have been the j ttem w hich I should have feat it to be my wish, and I,,Might it to have been my duty, to have proposed. ',never thought that it would have been ss ise or prts. ` l et to have thrown ,slown rudely or ahroink th e g, u ,rda and fences of the * Constitution ; but I did (i in silk that if the s's'•Stem I have alluded to had been , "tiled proper to be adopted, 'it aught to have been iitreempanied with those checks and guards, and with o vrr Y r e gulati on that could have given additional ) , e e ry regulation and 'influence to the Established Cantrell, to the :i,),-,rt an ti P rn tedion of the Protestant Interests, er n u ' l i t he to of every measure that 11 1- *" ten d to Propagate and spread the example of vl,e Protestant Religion. Thelie were the general i l e ws and •intentioos I entertained. And if, Sir, it ~,'4 l l'ltell possible to have found that general con. b li p which Iso anxiously desired--if I could ittive carried them into area in the manner I have. 01 ' 46 ; if person s of more ability and experience LI! tn Yself would have digested them, I am still wi c i ined to thiuk, that instead of being attended v e il ' thole dangerous consevences which some Gen. set'"" apptehend, they wooid have air Wed increased 1„ accurst to the Church, and have been favourable "othe welfar e of the State, Si, the stability t the of i T itu tico, and to the general strength and interest 41,0 e Emire. But when I state clue, Sir, I must th e I r ,pilind the House, that I considered the period of si ' fl irm as the period' favourable for the adoption - such a vive., measure....not because any pledge had been ;h at ": hut beesuse there was a greater likelihood t h an ; I 'e measure might be , adopted after tf,e Union tahoth 3et. "' it, The period was! favourable .40 on! * i nn er aecount--fa v . unable from the recent impies. , s that loi t mind,, ut , 0 L It b e . expecled to b; mode on men's 41/,'. r te Probability of iocreased security from s 4 l ith th e being amalgamated and incorporated ttero.,''ir ImperialLegisle sure, remote . front the elan „,erus influence that might at times be supposed to 4,l 4l, l 4 n t i e l. u ir, and overawe the local .Legislature. of , lite,,i h ?It, I repeat, that if under the recent itsi f l i t 4 of these circumstances I could have brought , s t d the "ttild.t -rn ` 4B ere as The first fruita of the Union, I tio4:t4lfe hoped there might have been a disposi. teliou'i've received it without rekindling othame feeli n .11 AVliitobilies, or reviving those 'contending %silent netwee n or and Protestants whigh, *allot", they do exist , ate most adverse to' the 1 ki te. t Iprosperity and the happiness of the titltlered,ti Pill, Sit, was the view in which I ronsi. e% 1 " ,l/trAt important subjea...these were the ' .11,4(0N:2:etch.' wished to attain ; but circumstances, et at that ei.reurnstances in my opinions rendered :otansit,m,'" in ed impossible to bring forward the prilertieotille way in which I then hoped it might t ri Which i'lle,ltr bring it forward...' the only way floattvitd ititillietrit only o at any . time to he brought . rward.' so ught In which it could be brought lab ~, w ith a d vantage "le retitio •to the claims of those. 011r1Y111), 0 nis now under consideration, est. with ! she , s hies, all differences, of burying all t te ad vd i nta . od of producing that perfe& union, in ' n,li,rely cantle' td.which Gentlemen on all sides so r oicl i / allude% whet the circumstances were to it,lealltn. the a' having at that time prevented me ' 1 u ,. 1 , in n i : ' 4ltentiUll Of Parliament to this sub. 'thee!, • n ' a nlitt and with the prospeas which I 41 1 it It is not no w . ! gi v le eXploat. , necessary fur me to state. kiltuife,tioiwo! va_.e. at_ tioht,ii,t:wthielt I thought it my duty to inle---more I du not feel my et tile Itoe l ied upon to give; and nothing Shall in. . lths triter into.furthet details upon this sub. 'ttnin ` N il there!' th, ,gt tha t 0. 1 ~ "re now ' content myself with t lt w then e circumstances whicl made me feel' 1 1 0 46 at stir , i , ' . Atlt t r i and whi ch I ,'Per to tiring forward this jnh, nistr,tit4l, haver. to the resignation' of the then tir l N on uho made so deep, so lasting an ei "Maten c r n in mind, that so long as those IH Y im , el Cf./46110 to operate, I shall feel it a !yard_ wilt Poled u „„ i t "" the not only not to bring for. -11/, (.._ nu t i n __, lard Pr , ilf4 a t ',;_ 4PY manne r to be a party in bring. Ili taus much •to,.agitating this coestion II tying trullitet'l"d itil'orSi tritilenPuninthelopinio.na I ;hen enter. a t sa , k tlit to II i ll, ~ ti t ell) e$ 4. htch then, and I % hi f 444 b"Ve rn my condua, I think it I 'lilted isl e r the whole ifth e 1,, whi c h I 0 14 4 _ -, . % ,, h _ . t- ,p i a tt Uh l tu, h ave hole essence of ' the ay stem which' - ho„ t 4, of e 14?IvietF, %. Viii a measure of Peace, ' wllltld itatt:nicianditt_i,noo—a measure ' which I did toe tifea of sufteninE, t t,..-s., . . n tilt religfOus di ff erences, of eitinguisl'g all ani mosities, and of uniting all men of both relign ns in ohs common lea' for the preservation of the Con stitution, and for the general happiness and prove, thy of the Enipire. Bat, Sir; desirous as I then. was of proposing this measure, and sanguine as I was in. my ,Ilopes,.of its success, nothing could be, hither from my intention than to bring it 'for ward if there did not appear a rational prospea of its .being carried, (not with unanimity, fur ,upon such ,an important subject that I knew was impos. sible), but with general concurtence, because I knew that if it were broUght forward under other circum. stances, instead of producing the effect I wished, it would only tend to. revive those animosities which I wished toextinguish, to aggravate those difficul .ties,sithich I wished finally to reniove.- , Not being able, from the circumstances to which I have al luded, to proptese the measure which I thought likely to be prOduCtive of such benegebil did then form the deterniination riot to press it• at any period, - unless I thought* could be d one with that prospect of succesa, and with that general eoncur., rence, without which . it cad never be beneficial. When I use the- sere general .Concurrence, I' am sure not be Supposed ever to hive: been so visiortary as to. suppose that a question of stsels, immense importance, and upon which -men's feel. ings and paisions were so strongly excited, could, ever be carried with perfea unanimity, hut I mean with that general concurrence which would have enabled us to gratify the wishes of one party, without awakening: the fears, or exciting the 'ea.; lousy of the other. Whatever Gentlemen may think of the .abstraa 'rights of the Petitioners, or of the expediency of co,nplying with the prayer of their Petition, I am sure they will agree. with me in thinking, that the chance of extinguish. ing all those animosities which have unfortunately prevailed, and of producing that perfeCt union which tee 'all wish, .nust depend much upon ..the combination of circumstances under which the mea. sure is brought forward.—Not having in any de. gree changed my opinion upon this subject, regard., ing it in the ban' of view I did then, and rekining the Name feeling l / 4 , I must say that' at the present moment I think lice little .chance, I should rather say lace no chance, ut its being cartibd at all, certainly not in that way which 1 meant, ins) in which way.only I think it can be productive of 'reel advantage to the Petitioners, or of benefit to the State, I mean as a measure of peace and concilia. tion.---If then, -Sir, the question is not now to be carried, I think that to agitate it, under such cireuthstances,• will only tend to revive - those ' ditoensions Which we wish to extinguish, to awaken all that warmth and acrimony of discussion which has heretofore prevailed, and to excite those hopes, which, if they, are to be disappointed, may be productive of the greatest mischief. As to. the chance isf, carrying the question at present, with ge. neral.pncerrence, ,of gratifying the Catholics with. out offending the Protestants, of confirming the affeaions of the one without raising the suspicions and exciting the fears of the other, not only in Ire. lend but in 4t - tiglancl, I aimless there eppears to use to be none. I lament it as much es any man can do—l lament that the impression which now pre vails has now taken place ; many circumstances have combined to nrrducoahat Impression, : all of which are to be deplored. . I ask any Gentleman whether he does mit believe, looking to the opinions of the Members of the Established Church, of the Nobi lity, of the men of property, of the middling and respeetable classes of society—l ask him whether he does nor believe, looking 'at the sentiments of the mass of the ProteStantS ot this Country, and of Ire land, that there iv the greatest rep lignance to 'this: measure, and thit even if it could now be carried, so far from prodinitz conciliation and union, it would tend, un the CUiltrelq, to disanpnint ad the prospects of ad vantage which under other circumstances would be derived from it. Even those Gentlemen who. have argued the most strongly in favour of this, measure have candidly conle,sed, that ill the pre. sent state of men's minds, it is not likely 'to ,be carried. I am sure I shall net be - contradicted when • I say, that ever since the Uoion this still:lea' has: in a very considerable degree at-fretted • public et-. tention ; and, that of late, notwithitanding the' other events which have occupied t,lie public mind, it has been the 'subjett of :Much' conversation both in public and private, .particularly since the Catholic Petition has been prectited, and since the kion. Gentleman has given notice of hiepresent Motion; and I should disguise my' real sentiments if I aid not slay, 'that at prisent time prevailing sentiment is strongly against this measure ; what circumstances May occur to overcame that sentiment it is not for me to predia or cOnjafture.' In speaking of thP • pitibability of carrying this question at this time, I cannot but advert to what fell froM the Hon, Gentle. Man who opened the'Debate this day, respecting the' • decision which took place last night inanother place. I know perfealy well 'that no man can mention the . decision of another Branch of the Legiilature for the purpose of influencing, much less Of controlling, the decision of this House.. I know there are many instances where differences of Opinion have prevailed between this and the other-Holiseof Parliament, in which else sentiments of this House, in concurrence with the public opinion, properfy expressed, have W. timatelY prevailed. I am' as far 'as any man, Sir, from wishing not to hold high the undoubted privi. lege* of this - House; but if I am right in my gene rarview 'of this stihjed, I think the determination -to which I am alluding ought not. to be laid out of our consideration, because-it Boca 'to -the very et sence of the measure itself, I ntean as far as relates to the practical advantages that are' to be derived from it. Supposing then that we were all agreed as to the propriety of granting the prayer ut this Petiti in, is it not' our duty to consider what bad , areas might be produted by the marked 'dif. fereoce which would , then subsist between this House and the other branch of the Legislature upon this subjeal, Ifcarried at all it ought, as I have , already stated, to be carried with general concur. renge, and -when an endeavour' is made to carry a measure, the °Nett of which . is to 'conciliate one par ! of His Majesty' s S u bje c t s ) care most be taken not to shock the. feelings - of a much larger class 1./1 the cammunity. , Under such circinnstences, when such an opinion has been given by another Branch of the Legislatures wc arc botind to lac . it into nut I consideration in deciding upon the lineaof condors} we ought to adupt,, because this- is a subje4t in iwhich no.mari can i iet wisely or prudently , who acts entirely from . his Views orhis own feelings. It is Iris duty to his Country; ,to the Catholics, and to the Communir.?, to look, it It in a combined point of view, to consider all the probable effeets of car. tying it (if„ it were ,pradiCabley, with such a strong sentirpent prevailing against, or of failing to carry it, may produce.. Upon this part of the subject there is one point on which I wist i to say ,a few words. It has been urged by sortie Geotlemen that we ought: to go into the Committee, l whateyer we may resolve to do . at last; an d soi k e o f the minor grievances under which the :Catholics are said to labour have.been pointed upon whi - cli it is said there can be no difference of opinion on the propriety of rantin g ihe'm such as the circumstance of, Catholics engaged in a militarylife corning over to't ts Gauntry, and who are thereby exposed to the operation orthe 'rerit A . ft; which they are, .not at home. Anothet , .circum.• stance which has been mentioned is; that the Ca.: thdlics in'the Army are not only not 'allowecifto: have mail perforthed, but they are compelled •to attend , Proatstant worship. Sir, l contend that these points are much too unimportant to induce tis to go into a Committee upon 4'Petition which em. braces the wheleof this important atibieft, artd which excites the' hopes and fears of all the Subjeeisof the United Kingdom. I again repeat, that Ido lament that this sobjea has now been brought'forviard I lathent for toe 'isallte of the Catholics theniselves; I lanient for the general interest of the Country, that Gentleinen hav e dn.-tight proper to agitate this sub. jet{ at thin moment That Gentlemen have a per. le6 right to exercise their lodgment upon this sub. jets lalo not deny ; I do slot complain of their con. dud; I Only laMent that they have felt. it their duty to bring it forward at.this period, and under the present circumstances ; ,when, if they were to succeed, the consequences would not be such as we all desire ; and it they rail, they: may be such is we must all regret; „ And now, Sir, let me ask the Hon. Gentleman who has brought forward the present Marian, and who fairly avows Alit his objeft is that every Oitii should be con. ceded to the Catholics—let Me ask the pther Hon. Gentleman who supported the Motion .last night with such a splendour. of eloquence„ what tired tLis is likely to produce upon the Catholics therriselves ?. When that Hon: Member, or the . Finn. Meier of the question, talk of the effect of disappointing hopes that have been raised,. I trust therhavcover.tated and exaggerated it. But One of 'these Gentlemen' did state that; _artiongst the possible causes of a re, ligious feeling,having mixed .and• operated in the. late Rebellion, might b.: enumerated the hope heitt out .by Lord ,Firr.wtt, Lt am, that the claim of 'the Catholics would be ..Weer) into Consideration. They alledge the disappointment of. that. itope as one of the causes that might have tended to pro_ duce the Rebellion. If that be their convihion, what must they thir7l4: who -wish to' go into a Committee upon the Petition, and yet are of 6pi nion that they 'still rnL.rve to themselves the free. dam of rejeaing it altogether, or of rejeffing it in its most important rots ? I submit this' to the consideration of the. House ahOrtly, but, distintt. ly ; it rests upon grounds so obvious end so strong, that it will be taking up your time un. necessarily, .to debate upon them,' 1 aubtnit this with a wish that the measure will be brought for ward and carriers': with .any thing like a general concurrence. But, the.citcuMitances`which rendered it itupossiblb for me to urge and pro's it then, make it impossible for the to urge and press it now feeling as I do, „that to press it, and to.fiii, or to ,press it aoil.even carry, it with such .a strong uppo. croon, are alternatives , both of them so mischievous, that it will 'be dilli.ult to decide between them.. Seeing, Sir, what are the opinions of tha. tirues—w hat is, the, situation of, men's minds, and the sen.titnerits of all descriptions and classes— of the other Branch of the . Legislature, and even the prevailing.opinion of this House, I feel that I should aft contrary to a, s ense o f ny y , and e'Ven •inCorisiatently . .with the otiginaltround upon which I thought the measure ought to be Worthy 'forward, if countenanced it under the preseOt circumstances, or if L hesitated in givi n g my decided negative to the House going into a Committee." Mr. IFINPHA.I.I contended, that the exempt. ing the Irish Catholics from the remaining, disabl. lilies was the principal object of thos'e w'ho con. cu l led in the measure of the. Union, Flow the reasons then urged in favour of 'the propriety of 'the exemprions at that time did not apply to the present, no explanation had been offered. Iris only said, that the '; tare of the Public mind, that different bodies of the People, that this House, wtre, at the present' moment, unfavourable to entertaining the proposition.—But• were they not all equally indisposed to adopt it at the time of the Union ? It such of jeetions were sufficient to prevent the,dikussion and adoption of such a mea. sure, they would neverbe wanting. .It was never to be expeeted that the House or the Country would be unanimous in embracing the tue;ssure ; or if that unanimity was to be looked for before the.mea. sure could be entertained,. it might as well be de_ ferred for ever. > The objections would be eternal, for they would last as long as the Raman Catholics remained. There must be some secret objeCtion to it ; but that objection remained unexplained,— It Was also argued, that an acquiescence' in the prayer of the ISetition might be matter of expedi. er , c r, bur nut o f right. No one would assert that it was claimed in Abe sense of an universal absolute right ; but it was claimed as a common right which should not be refused, unless special and adequate causes could be assigned for the refusal. The na. tun of the dangers attending that acquiescence should also he made out ; nor should it be forgot. ten that there might be equal dangers on the side of the refusal. ' Sir J . NEWPORT would only allude to one point which ,bad nut been touched upon in the detest*, but which wasrclosely connetieil with the subjett under discwsion. It had been asserted, that in no counqy did the Dissenters enjoy so many pO. iitical privileges as the Catholics of Ireland. He was forward to say as._ that was not the case; for in Hungary, a popuklui country, the tret y identical privileges hyrc praye , _! br Cdthylits WC n , ~. _ . . . granted to the Protestants by a Catholic Govern. ..nent--and will you, .a Protestant Government', refuse them to `the Cdtholiesi - who may, prove 44 useful to the empire as the Protestants so treated haJ proved to Hungary ? , . . ... FITZbER,I.Lb Ceit i hiniself, in duty to both Countries, hound to vote icr the cfuestion.-.. He, had voted for the Union ; but he would not have supporteti' that inr4sutc onlei ht h.id eipt4c.trd that the granting the privileges+ now solicited by the Catholics would have been 'the inevitable come, quence of that measure,. He could oat but he ft e i;;.. press his indignation and disgust et the grfisa and scandalous ellumnies which some.of the /fish Nieffil, bets thought proper, to cast upoo: their Cuuntiy—i they _were wholly unloam/ed, and would only recoil upon those by Whoth they were uttered. Mr.. AnCtiDALL watinly deprecated the granting the request of 411 C Catholics. _ • • 11:7r; A. DIZLON denied that any thing like party motives. NO minded themselves. ‘; f hi S qUeStionet He had ~opi ) o , c d t h e 14te 0-overnth ent, and his chief reason fur that opposition was, their known determination not to acre le to the wishe s of the Catholics. He was,sorry Thr the languige used by many Gentlemen in office, ani rloo..ty c.itumne t t with' the Minister. Such hingu4gs 4ugured ntr g0..14 to the Petitioners i and portended nothing but ti,tl Litv, the Saspensiun of the liabeas Corpo, &e. , . - Mr. SUMP (Mea;be: For liablin) %vas deciat , dly aka inst the M.ition. — Mr. H. ADHINCro tq explair n tespening s.ine allusions that had been tninle, ta' ..! - 'veech ul a noble relation of his, on the su4jtet of ;be Union, And the. .clated, that :the present question runic.' nut meet with his approbation, aslie &Med the agitation of it at the.present moment highly Censurable. Mr. J. Ls:Melia Was a . . warm f r i e nd to ' t h e claims of •the Catholic s 'because he .was a warm friend to every thing which contributed, to strength 4 en the Country and there was nothing, i n hits rnind, better calculated to produce that etteet than a cordial acquiescence io these claims. Sir J. 1 - 11Prtst.i•r reminded the House,: hat 30. cording to the Qtinititution given to Corsics by our ,Government, the Roman catholic was to be the established religion, and the other religions were to be tolerated.. The comment on that proceeding was obvious, and he should leave the application to the House. , , . . ~. I,ortl.l)t 131.Aqu it It 3 declared that the Petition of. the Catholics could not now, nor at any other time, be .entertained with , tit manifett danger to the Church and State. Mti HUT -- ;IIINsori ...indicated Mr. SCULLY from the imputations thrown - upon him. by some Gentle. men, and read a variety Of passages from a tram. phlet written by that G'entlertran, to shew the loy4l And patriotic prisport ninthe work. The Hon. Gen. th man (lien spoke at some length in tavour of tits Motion. ATTOktflitT 08:atAL. and Sir WM. SCOTT explained. • - Me. ti4ivitog4ti'slipporte‘i the Motion. Sir G. firt.t. i;pposed the Motion; attritititing those by whop') it was brought forward, motivcs of 114' rty spirit. OPPosga t he IV.l ° licm a iil e ;e ti3 n l ov 4 % o ine l a* tidly called ;or. Mr. PDX rose, and made very m141)41(.4, r vr. His first observations were ,dirated to the sib. ,jelions that' had been Made against the time at which this question had been brought forward.-- There was no time, in his Parliamentary life, at which had he, been u.ked to present a P:rictun for the extension of religious liberty,, he would have refused. With regirrii to-the Petitioners, it might .Iscotalced, why did they not make. this jrnmediately after th..! unioit.?...4ecaUse or tI4 re.. signation of the Rl , ,htFlian. Gentl , ...nian who had -initourted i to them his intention of f'oewarding their wishes, and of the , reasons with 'which he 'echo. papied that resignation. Ile had said he could nut succeed for them; that he resigned because be could not - succeed, but that be had hopes, he might b‘r • able twittooth the way for Ihem,"by'preparing the public mind' favourably to receive their claims. Was it nut natural then, .for the Cativdics, after such a ticclaratiou, when they saw the Right lion. , Gentleman . retirrn to Office, to thoosi`that as the ailment - for makiirg their ;application ?--The .Right Hun. Gentleman .had, ho w ev er , d ec tt oe d to introduce their Petition to the !tittle ; they tlicn 'came. to him, ansihad therefore been said to make themselves Allies of 'ft‘ Party. lit thoeght the Catholics did well to press the, question,, for he was convinced the very d6ettisiutt would, be of service to their,catue. The public would easily see on which side the strength' of' argument lay ; '1141(1 While vet might be the decision oftlic,.House, would form their indgrnent,accordingly. - Amidst all the extraordinary langulge which had been held no this s i i i 4 j e a di v i ng the discussions of the ttivo evening., amidst all the ignartinet and itiiheralitythathaii been SO copiuuslyltspla.yesi, ,it was some consolation to find, that though the Right Hon..Gentletnan did nnr at present give the Motion the suPPort 'of - his vote, he 'by r.o means witPhetti 4toin it tivat•oFbi., good opinion,. it was important , that Allis should he known,. to shame those who -were wicked enough to wish that the Catholic claims should t e rejedted ssentimentt l k' t all i.i ft a g d ai l fl )e S e t n' th a e s YP et e i r c i ( t l ion ti . Thit ' he di, i f hat the t ercu l not believe. It was true many tespe&able bi)dies of men had expressed such an opinion, but he very 'much doubted, Inifeed, if this Was the prevailing feel. log. Why was it tliat'the suhieets - of a free Cnoritry, such its ;,ours,, bore the . chara4ter of contending for that Country with _more tiltilllbiASM titan chit SuhjeCts of a despotic C.iverionent 1 Deeause they 'Contended for the enjoyment of thrir civil - tights or political- Power, which :terms were in his mind !trYigil,c)ntil'in;:u'elvtill'ewuit''shddeirtiT:erdencf:oim)"7leleet).talir: and political tl i to ro k in fou t s l e le w a ou r l t d ek :dd ' ts l ) 4y th ' e a erhCderii ig to e h , ' t i c i 1:41; rstson Empirelrt a l o s a n a i e t j : 0 ( 4% ) I VI f i l el l t o i F 1: g or f t a o w o uldi t l a e t i . lc. ; p i ! ; 0 : p o r c u i j a i ( ve e f t c ! t t f ' l G i a l f u a e t t a c q:u: d V ‘ a l to ation t As to, thelorm in which the subject had been brought forward, he could not but conceive the referring the Petition to a Committee, et tbt twat tincutpti,,,.,,,