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AT a Numerous and Respectable MEET ING, held at the GEORGE and VULTURE TAVERN, Cti London, on Friday, 14th- of. Febru , 1823, HENRY SMITH, Esq. in the Chair, • It was Resolved, That the present time affords a proper opportunity: to urge the claims of the Inhabitants of London and its environs, to relief from the Coast Duty on Coal. That we are so satisfied of the impolicy of any Duty upon Cowl, that we will not, at any time, cou •me any proposi tion that.will have the effect of extending the ty upon Coal for home Consumption. That the Inhabitants of London and its vicinity be invited to attend a General Meeting, for the . purpose. of considering and adopting the-best means of obtaining relief from the Coast Duty on Coal. That a Committee of Sixty Gentlemen be appointed, to pre pare the business for such General Meeting; and to take such measures, (by communication with other persons who are now affected by the Coast Duty on Coal) or otherwise, as they shall see fit, towards obtaining relief from this partial Tax. That a Public Meeting be called at the City of London Ta vern, Bishopsgate-Street, for FRIDAY, tho 21st Instant, at One o'Clock, to consider the propriety of a Memorial to His Majesty's Ministers, and of a Petition to Parliament, for relief from the Coastwise Duty on Coal. • Sir CHARLES PRICE, 'Bart. in the Chair. The Chair will be taken at TWO o'Clocit precisely. ' o s Duty 9s. 4d. per Chaldron.—London pays 500,0010. per annum. CLERGY ORPHAN CORPORATION, St. John's Wood, Mary-le-bone. Patron—THE KING. President--The Right Honourable and Right Reverend the Lewd Bishop of LONDON. Vice-President—The Right Hon. Lord KENYON. THE ANNIVERSARY MEETING of the SOCIETY fur CLOTHING, MAINTAINING, and EDUCATING POOR ORPHAN CHILDREN of CLERGY MEN of the ESTABLISfIED CIIURCH of ENGLAND, until of AGE to be put APPRENTICE. will be holden at PREENTASONS"fAVERN. Great Queen-street, Lincoln's Inn-tirlds, on THURSDAY. the 27th instant, The Chair will be taken for the general business of the "ILY.' at Half-past Two o'Clock precisely. Dinner on Table at Five o'Clock prec i sely. STEW ARDS. Right Rev. Thomas Burgess, His Grace the Duke of Nordi n- D. Lord Bishop of St. timberland. David's. Very Rev. Joseph Turner, DJ). Dean of Norwich. Rev, M. J. Routh, D.P. Pre sident of Magdalen Col lege, Oxford. : ' Ven.F. J. H. Wollastuti, B.D. Archdeacon of Essex. Rev. H. H. Norris, M.A. Pre bendary of Pandaff. Rev. Edmund Ferrero, M.A. Chaplain in Ordinary to his Majesty. Dinner Tickets, tars. cacti, to he taken at the Bar. No Collection atter Dinner. Donations and Snbscriptions *ill in the Mean time be thankfully received by the Treasiwers, Rev. Al elideacon Cambridge and Joshua Watson. Esq.; at their Bankers. Messrs. Drumruonds, Charing-cross; and Messl"9. Sikes and Co., Mansion-house-street by the Secretary, No. 70, Ens tonovare ; or by the Collector, at No. 0, Bartlett'a-build 4lits, *Whom. Right lion. Lord Colchester, Right Hon. the Lurd Chief Baron. Sir James Longhorn, Mitt. Wrti. John Bankes, Esq. NU'. Jeremiah liartyn, 17. sq. E. J. BURROW, D.D. Seiretnry. LACON-THE FirrEENTH EDITION. This Day was published, TB E RIFT BENTII EDITION ' of LACON. 13y C. C. couroN, Author of Hypocrisy," late Fellow of King's College. Cambridge. For the abuse of Blockheads, and the Praise of Scholars, both 'equally creditable to Lacon, see the various Reviews R 941 Journals, Metropolitan and Provincial, Foreign and Do mestic. Sold in Two Voltars, price 7s. -each, by Messrs. Long. Mani, Patornoster.row, and all the ISoolcsellers, NEXT TUESDAY. IQ\\TIFF ankiCO *) who Sold 2 ,1 5 4, Prize of MOO, in.4be Lottery just ended (being the last of that value ever drawn), anti else Nine other Capitals In the satue Lottery, beg leave to ntfer a brief statement of the •present Scheme tn the attention of the Public. it consists of only (1,000 Tickets, and contains, in Sterling Money, I Prize of .VO,OOO, 1 of 16,000 0 of Xi,ooo, 4 of £500, , an d the usual proportion of .£lllb, Lion, ,tke. tcc, To be all drawn NEXT TURSDAY. Schemes at large may be received at No. tt , Ponitry ; 12, •Charing-Cross t and 81, Aldgate High-street; the Old and Fortnnate ()dices of SWIFT and Co. NE±T TUEjDAY. CARILO.LL reminds his Friends and the Public, that th 4 Present Small Lottery will be Drawn All in One Dan NEXT TUESDAY; February 25. Althu4gh' there are so few Tickets, yet the Scheme contains Eighteen Capitals, including Prises of 1:120,040, .ele,ooo, disc. &c. Tickets anti Shares are Selling at CARROLL'S Offices, 19, t ()RN 11 I LL; and 20, OXFORD-STREET. Remarkable as CARItOLL'S Offices always hare been for the sale of Capital Prizes, they:were never more Conspicuous than in the Lottery just ended, wh en he Sl o tted and 'Sold TWO out of the Three ,C 20,000 Prizes, and ONE out of the Two £to,ooo Prizei ; besides Twelve other Capitalt, 3,428 ,C26,000 10.622 ,... 20,000 No. 384 )0,000 11009 Xl i cioo 0,829 4200 6,381 5 0 0 9,131 ..200 341 .......... 300 11,049 10,01.3 .......... 300 1 3,09 ..200 1,341,..... 200 1 19,117 200 .... 6,200 .......... 200 I 1 9,997 200 .._____ FOR COLDS, C.OUGHI4, AsTI-DiIAS, •Sce. -,IIIIE PECTORAL ELIXIR. - Experience . A s a-' dp . ring a - very long period, 'has incontestinly proved surterior efficacy of this Medicine, in all cases of Colds, Ceitgt)s, and Asthmatic Affections. By promoting gentle '4esiortition, it very shortly relieves the Patient of a.slight or lite= .Coltl, and 4 few 4toses are generally sufficient to I. "At'fi, e'Phese which neglect lies rendered mare confirmed and I.ll4ste; and which are accompanied with Cough, Spitting 4 iihnitt; and other serious symptoms. Its peculiar balsamic 1 44 wto.l',, , tguri . to. heal aormess, any allay the jrrittition of the ,?,'lts, in cases of ( ieiugh ; aid in Asthmatic Affections it as taltdgives freedom to the Breath. kt "lit4 in, Bottle,, ;it i t , 14d. pod is, 9d. by Butler's Cite thet, 4, 4tapside, tit. P. a i d 9 2 0, Regent-street,' (near tm,„lßle Rooms), London .: 90, Waterloo.place, ttdin-, AA ''. 4 ' Olt Sackville street 'Dublin • and by the principal X' " b _lfAnders tht 7 no .i.o ' ut "the United Kingdom. ,tt tf),.../ - ,...4" , e l lreft.ll tO 1 41 i fpr notices .Pec , toral Elixir, end Ch tar ,.l_," the Govertimtnt Stamp has the w ords "Butler, 43 ,^ Mei* engraved on it. DDRESS to the Right Hom J. WALLAC E, -LIL M.P., late Vice-President of the Board of Trade, of which the following is a Copy, will lie for signature at the City of London Tavern, Bishopsgate-street, during this week :-- " We, the undersigned Merchants, Bankers, Ship-owners, and others connected with the Trade of the Port of London, do hereby express our deep regret at your resignation of the office of Vice-President of the Board of Trade.. " Whatever differences of opinion may have existed,, touch ing the policy of some parts of the measures relating to our Trade and . Navigation, which you, Sir, have successfully ad. voested, and it would be in vain to expect unanimity where local interests are involved, none are entertained of the ability, persevering industry, and laborious attention you have shown in the discharge of your public duties. " In conveying to you this reconi of our sense of the impor tant services renderethby you to the general commerce of the +United Empire, We express a hope that, notwithstanding your retirement from public office, you will continue fo afford to the Commercial Interests the advantages of your experience, prac tical research, and assistancie in the removal of those, further burdensand useless restraints with which our Trade and Navi gation are still encumbered. ". London, 14th February, 1823. ° • THE LONDON JOURNALS. EXTRACTS FROM THE ntir,v MORNING PAPERS, February 20, 1823. [BRITISH ettEss.] Paris Papers have arrived to the 17th. The bustle of warlike preparation, the appointment of officers, and the march of troops, continues in France ; but the general feeling is strongly against war, and our private accounts state that this feeling had at length manifested itself in the strongest manner. We have letters from Havre to the 17th inst., which state that information was just received that the people at Marseilles had broken into open revolt, and demanded peace with Spain. From whit is given in the Cthitier Francais, from Marseilles, under the date of the 9th of February, we should not be at all suprised if the commotion had taken place. [TII E TI hi Es.] We have received the. Paris journals of Moq. day last. They communicate no intelligence of importance from Spain, but contain enough to show that the military preparations of Prance are continued with. activity.—The visits of the Duke of San Lorenzo to the Duke of Orleans have ex cited the jealousy of the Parisian Ultras. The Drapeau Blanc of Monday says—A The Duke of San Lorenzo, the Minister of the Cortes, has received orders to leave France, and to carry elsewhere his talent for intrigues, as vain as easily detected, lle toolt farewell of the Duke of Or leans, with whom he has had several times the honour of dining, since the opening of the Cham bers, and the notification of our rupture with the Government of the Cortes." • ' [NEW TIMES.I The Stock Exchange exhibits at present a me lancholy spectacle. Yesterday another consi. derable failure was announced—another victim to the gross and shameful imposition of the Spa nish Botids! It is with most painful feelings that we allude to these unhappy circumstances; but in justice to the public, and to ourselves, we must remind onr readers of the part taken by certain other Journals in promoting that delusion, and of ,the part taken by the New Times iu ex posing it. We were well aware of the pre judices that we encountered In proving the bank rupt state of the,Spanish finances ; but we shall never shrink from the duty o f sp ea ki ng impor-' tant truths ; and we now say, that the supposed Military Power of the Spanish Revolutionists is . just as great a delusion as their supposed Finan cial Resources. Not long since, the Courier Francais, a paper written under the dictation of Benjamin Constant, the Swiss, stated—that by the Ist of April the Cortes would have a reserve of one hundred thousand muskets, 'and would. have fitted for sea 31 ships of • the line; that by the same period 180;000 men would be under arms, clothed and equipped ; and ti that the Spunish frontiers would be placed in a complete state of defence !I !—lt is really astonishing, how any person can conceive 'that there is credulity enough in the world to listen to such monstrous absurdities. How was all this to be done ? With money or without ? And if with money, whence was it to come ? On the English Exchange, only four months ago, a Loan was raised, and the Scrip then sold at 75. It is now at 33—that is to say, the current interest of Spanish securities here is fifteen per cent. per annum ! And yet so impossible is it for the Revolutionary GoSern went to raise money at home, that they come hither again to borrow ! This is not all—on a nominal security of eight millions sterling they , have not yet been able to obtain any further ad vance than one hundred thousand pounds ! [MORNII4,O POST.] in the Houie of Commons last night, Mr. Hume continued his eccentric career, and con tinues to 'excite the mingled mirth and pity of that Honourable Assembly. He produced a new series of farcical blunders; for which he was re quited with the custo►rmary castigation by Mr. It. Ward and Mr. Secretary Canning, who suc ceeded in shewing that he was generally wrong, but most part►cularly so on all those points whi.eit he considered OP be strong ones. The Gentleman seems to.emulate the glory of a ,prize fighter of trie.old . scbool, who was honoured with the name of Rneggvd-and nugh, and who, though he never cOnqUered, was much praised, in con sideration of the intolerable beatings which he could sustain. Hume is xertainly a great glutton in his way, and stands up.more than any man we have ever seen so repeatedly floored. His comical int-epidity so interested Mr. M'Do nald that he, compassionately endeavoured to help him Anti of the hobble into which he bad got by his motion on the subject of the recent appointment of Lord Beretford to the situation of Lieutenaht-General of the Ordnance. Mr. M•Donald tenderly recommended him to with draw his motion, and move for a Committee of Inquiry. Mr. Calming, however,'would not al. low the-Patriot to get oil' so, and peremptorily refusing to content to the motion being with 'poor Mr. Hume was l'or,ced into a divi :ion, when he found a majority of 127 against him. [MORNING CIIRO?iICLE..I Petitions were last night preSented from seve ral parts of the North. of Ireland, complaining of the establishment of Jesuits in the south of that country as .a great obstacle to the mental im, provement of the people. It was stated by several risk Members, that. the allegation in the Petitions was tinfounded:; but Mr. Spring Rice admitted there was an impression in Ireland that the Jesuits had established themselves there, though as mere Jesuits, abstracted from all , in terference with, political power, and devoted to Instructing the people, they were not, he thought, an evil but a good. We do not see how the esta blishment- of Jesuits in Ireland can be worse .than their establishment at Stoneyhurst in Lanca shire, nor how is it possible to prevent their esta,. blishMent in either country, without flying in the face of every principle of toleration. We are not exactly prepared to determine how far instruction communicated by a Society, of which the ethical erder is detestable, can be called a good—but the way to counteract the Jesuits is not to persecute even them, 'but to rival them in zeal and activity. Erederick of Prussia employed the Jesuits as schoolmaSters in Silesia after their disgrace, and yet notwithstanding the Protestants from the mi nority became the Majority in that country. The. best way to counteract Jesuits, is not to deafen Legislature with complaints against them, but to imitate the industry of the Wlethodists, who every where establish Schools as well as Chapels, and who, notwithstanding the superior attentionjo Pastoral duties of the Catholic Clergy (compred with those of the Establishment), We doubt not, gain ground in Ireland, as sull as they have done in England. [MORNING MERALD.I tither public occurrences of a .nearer and a deeper interest have drawn away the public mind from the singular warfare between the Greeks and Turks. Yet this contest will probably make a figure in the page of European annals among those great transactions which are referred to as epochs in history—if,as we trust, it be ultimatelY crowned with success. That such will be the issue there is great reason to expect. The Greek contest has been fur SOMP time on. heeded, but not undistinguished. There have been several shocki of arms by land as well as by sea, and in these the Greeks have uniformly come ow with. a solid accession of strength, and a still greater eclat of reputation. The Turkish naval. force they have completely shattered. It is al. most swept from the 'e aters. The Turks have been dispossessed of some strong holds on land also . ; and the Government has gradually ac.: quired strength, unity, and regularity of opera. Hon. Thereis still another important and gra , titying circumstance. The Greeks have not only achieved this without Russiahltid, but they see the designs of the Russian Cabinet towards them In its true colours. The history of a former and not very distant contest in which they were engaged against their, oppressors, 'should have disabused them respekting the designs of Ritssia.' The 'selfish mid cruel perfidy with which the. Empress Catharine. abandoned the Greeks when she found it prudent to make peace " with , the Porte, is almost as great a blot upon her me. 'mory—certainly as strong evidence of her exe crable character, as the more noted atrocities committed by her in Poland. . The GreekS, how. ever, after the' lapse of ageuerathin, and with. the natural 'credulity of men in despeynte peril, still caught at the hope of Russian support.--- But the deVelopement of the modern Russian policy, as rapacious and ' , selfish as ever; though more smoothly. cloaked ;—united with the. develOpement 'of their own strength, has now completely ,weaned them from ituSsian protec tion.--,Whilst the Greeks were .regarded as the protegees 'of the Emperor of Russia, their fate could inspire, comparatively, little hope or . terest among the enlightened 'and reflecting of other nations. It would be merely the change of one bondage for another ; a really, though perhaps not .apparently more pernicious one. ARMY.—Yestertlay morning, pursuant to the order of the Musteralaster-Gener a l o f the three regiments o f Foot Guards, five hat. talions of the Ist, the (.2d (or Coldstream), an d Sd regiments, consisting of between five and six hundred men, mustered on the parade in St. James's Park, and after being formed into a square,were inspected by their Officers. The men seemed in good health, and had a very formidable and warnu o a ppearance. A va s t con,. course of people were assembled to witness their military evolutions, after which they W e re di s . missed. PARLIAMENT. FEB.HO USE OF LORDS, EB 19. The Notice met at ten o'clock.—The Loan CILA.NCE r.Lo a heard Appeals. -SOIEiIINIZATION OF MARRIA(U. Thei3i,liop of CtlESTEß':adverted to a notice given last Session of Parliament, to bring irr a Bill to amend the Act of -George the Second, respecting the Soleinnization of Marriage.. The subject would,- probably, occupy the attention of the Com mittee sitting upon the Marriage Laws, .and in that case the measure proposed by the Right Rev. Prelate would be unne cessary. The Bill it was his intention to introduce would not interfere with the forms of Marriage, but make a re. gelation - with respect to places where Marriage is to be so. lemnlzed. • There were places of worship where marriage could not be solemnized, and the object was to give facility and publicity to , marriage by permitting the solemnization in Chapels of Lase. If the Cominittee to twitch the Right Rev. Prelate . alluded considered the subject so as to make his nits. sure unnecessary, it would aftbrd him satisfaction. In case it did not accept. their attention - he should bring in the Bill. Lord RE IiESDALE presented a Petition from . Ileconfiehl, in Ertateraftrst the Small Debt Bill. Eritrl MYRNILEV presented , * • Petition- from New Bolton against the Insolvent I)ebtors' Act. —Laid on the table. IRREGULAR :MARRIAGE' LICENSES. The Archbishop of CANTERBURY brought in- a Dill to make certain marriages good, in which the licensee were ob. tained contrary to law. Ms Grace observed, that the .new Marriage Act passed with so much rapidity as to outrun all precaution which ought to have been given to Surrogates, tta that they granted licenses, in some cases, contrary to.the pio. visions of the Act. Persons contracted marriage; ignorant. of the irregularity, and this Bill was to legalize such mar. ridges. • . On the motion of his Grace, the Bill was read the first dine. Viscount SIDMOUTH presented two Petitions from the Clergy of Norwich against the Marriage Act. Read and lai‘l on the table. A Gentletnan from the .Commissioners of the Harbour of New Shoreham presented the usual report, which was laid on I.the table.--Adjourned.• - • HOUSE OF COMMONS, Lord DEERHURST presented a Petition from Worcester against the Insolvent Am.—Ordered to lie on the 'table. .Mr. CURTEIS presented a Petition from severer - I-lop Plan- ter* of Sussex against the Hop puty.—Ordered to lie on the table. • • Mr. RICARDO moved for a Return of the quantity of Cold imported into and coined in his.Mojeety'zi Mint in the year 11322.--Ordere4. Mr. ROBERTSON moved for a Rettrit of the quantity of Sugar imported by the East India Company, ghee the year 1790.—Ordered. _ _ ORDER OF JESUITS. Mr. BROWNLOW presented a Petition' from Rosa in fa your of measures of amelioration towards Ireland. The Peti tioners attributed many ofthe evils which had afflicted Ireland to the establishment of the Order of Jesuits iu dna country.— (A were always directed to the pre.. venting of all hiunan improvement, and to keeping the human mind in-darkness. Sir 11. PARNEIII4 said, he had never . heard of the Vista , blishment of 'Jesuits in Ireland. If the Hon.. Mouther hail himself heard of it he (Sir /1.) hoped he would inform the House of the plan of the Establishment. • Mr. EItOWNLOW, laid, he bad only presented the Pea. , tion in discharge his duty, it being sent to him for thatpur.. pose: He certainly had never heard of the existence of an Order of Jestiintin Ireland.. , , Mr. C: tIUTCHINSON he ',Was happy tho Member who presented the Petition bad declared his disbelief of the Iniintpal.fact stated in the Petkion. The PetitiOn WILT then ordered to tie on the Mr. BROWN lAM presented a similar Petition froM Ar.; tnagh, - Ittielrwas read,' after a S'ei words 'front Sir T. LETII. liTtlbGE and Mr. Ctrltwe x. On the question that it should lie on.the - tabie, Mr. C. HUTCHINSON said he knew that the ellegAtion of the petition, as to the Order of jesnits, was false. Though he heught such a falsehood would render the petition alinosta dis grace to the 1....c0rds of the .fjouse, hetshould not oppose its be ing laid on the table, so highlydid he Vilna the rtglit.of petit-. tioning. On this ground, and this alone,..he should not oppose the reception of the petition. , ' . Sir J. NEWPORT concurred- in the set*inepts of the last speaker, and declared it was always his wish to see. the.right petition, like all other rights and privileges, .slotred .equally by all classes of the community. . . Mr. BROUGHAM prefectly concurred. its the sentiment, that although a petition might contain 'statententS r which were knOwn to be false, yet the doors. of the lionsspught not, merely on that account, to be shut against it, prireidiAl the lan.. page of the petition was notdisrespectful to the-Tlouse4 could not, however, sit down without noticim.; inconsistency into which these notable petitioners had fallen, lie, by the way, had never heard that the . Jtoits made a point of. sup., pressing improvement. Ile believed, and had a ways under stood,lhat Education was their abject towards their pronely telt, though they might endeavour to giVegtrerte4 turn to its ef fects. The petitioners, however -thou it. otherwise, and that the object of the Jesuits was to. .14p the human mind in dark ness ; 'but it appeared that tire ilattiOni!es themselves 'were no .gfeat proficients in the first rutlinitintk'nf-ellocatiint—he meant the art of spelling.--4A jiumrtin his eye, over the petition, and he found they hatl:pis-spelled t and of all words for them to syell, they had inisimielled,the' word tolerance," to which they had jaivenahree r's t two c's had theigiven to the word tt Jesuit," but' then they had , taken care in return to dedtict On - a from the word " perratle." , -- (lJaughter.) The petition was then ordered to lie on the table. BROW-N'LOW said, he had a similar Petition to pre. :vit.-4We did not collebt the name of the place mentioned by, the Hon. lileniber.)-' , 1t would, he trusted, be Venial free from the fault whiCh hod been detected in the last by the lion. and Learned:Gentleman. He was again free to declare, that he had never Itettrd of the existence in any part of ..l.refand with , which he was' acquainted of an Order of Jesuits,--({ near !) Ile assured , the Howse it was pahif'til to hint to be tailed upon to present petit - lona which contained matter, likely .to cause irritation.;-..telkter.)—lt was the curse or. Irdand that one part of her population had alw4s been arrayed against the other. Mr. GRATTAN thought # ought -to be exercised by Rom Metnhers as to the presaaHng of such petitions. If such'n petitiors4s the present were.offereditim by ..hits own con. stiments, he would not present it. ' . Sir II ENRV PARNELL *mitt, :be firmly. believed no tutch Order as that mentioned by the Retitioners had ever been este. Wished in Ireland. • Mr. SPRING RICH said, he Could Itot•atate whether such an Order had or had not been established. lie knew an, itn.. beegsion nresailesi in somb parte-of Ireland that it 14, Even If i t did, l ie was no t aware that diatsircumstance of ittelf con. mituted an offence.. He believed most of the complaints against the Jetillitti arose out of their political conduct.; and as they had now lost all political power, he thought they would de goOd rather than otherwise. Sir THOMAS IttITIFBRIDGE said, that although the Petitioners were net members of.ltwned institutions, and al. though they hiul not received sso contplete an education as some lion. Members; their complaints were not legs t...ntitled to at tendon. For his own pan, he had no doubt that tiOttle such an Institution as that complained at; or sioadar to it ic principle, did really exist. Mr.•11.1101.1011A31 explained. lie had not the slightest in tention to reflect on the want of education of the Petitioners.— Ile had only intended to notice the inconsistency into which they had fallen, by accusing the Jesuits of a desire to keep people ignorant, while they, the Pe ti ti (anat.! thenn:elves, -who had of course drawn -their education front other secrets, Ap peared ignorant of its firstrutliments, • • The Petition was then ordered to tic on the table. IRIS!! SALT DUTY. AIL C. HUTCHINSON presented a Petition, which he stated to be nurperously and' rospectably signed by persona tre ed in the provision trade, at Vork, conip.aiiiing tat the etTect which the repeal of the Etigliih Salt Di4y tied tool ul%on their Trrole. `.Grits would at once be pereervod %vb.. n it wus found that before the repeal in question the English bore a proportion to the Irish Salt Duty of )58. to 2s. This inconvenience had also been ninth increased by the removal of the Orawback, which hula been taken away by the Repeal Bill. He WAS well aware that the Chancellor of the Exthequt,r last yt.ar, who was , now a Noble Lord in another plat.,e , ~.bli ~ .2 . angle. inJo, t manner towards Ireland on the otieetetglUin, quo OW tipht he hail no intention to 'cause tin= ingal Ifllktb Ilt to ga 4 ., , i Nificr, out, IL' trusted the Right .lion. • tietttl e men oppteeitew.on o see the necessity of.reetoring the Drl"r"CT Sir Jf)IIN NE s WPORT old, 004 NI e. should leave A ei milnr Petition to tirent, betook this ookortierti of 414itii.74 : hri concurrenu in whet Lail fallen from his lion. frieed. , The CHANC}.I 1.11,J0R of the EWEN lik4 44, Ae ,` 4. air.o anxious to give the. most faveurable cot tlefl/ClOn tiq trC4'g of the Petitioners. He WO* PsrfeCtbt W I aware liikt . • .iti # duetion of the Salt Duty would itepseondiehtitoeeme. . . ',,, and it WAS his desire t 0 .1414 1 11 to. OPPIi Ore*, -PPOi4e b- ...: ' - at-, A difficulty, however, had presented it t". in the' f.ise 4112 Petitioners, principally arising out of the 1id0n . .„,0,, could.be get over. he should be glad to rendet.eltery 4ai , A st4o - il to beet Irish Provision Tratito-- flear,thevei i) The Petition was ordered to lie an the table. .. , • - • IRISH POSTAOL Mr. C. lIIITCHINSON Preset/led a : ition frot? fer,t+4 l l, Merchants of Cork, complaining of the. vy rate o poatage s on lettere between . tlreat Britain anti 'vela The postage- a letter front London to Cork, he believed; was li• 104- h . •••*.4. that for an equal or a greater dietenee in England WAS bUt S:li* teen pence.. lie hoped this grievance would his remedied by hie Illateety , a tievern,nient. ' Air. F. LEWIS said ; that poetage Auld liof be concliaraii all a mere taIX. • The tax -voristeted '-dier Ifi 'lnt - dif!.renl IP tween the sum expended and that received—a tliff'oraucti War-Olt was much lees in the Irish than in the Englieh post-office. . • Sir JOHN •NEWYORT conceived that this was of no con sequence as applied to the present +question. In consequence of the poverty of Ireland it had lescof communication by fetter; but on that account the grievance pressed more heevily on these who received letters. , Mr. 13OULBUIlN said, the rate of postage was neeessarily higher upon letters from England to Ireland than front (rip part of En land to another. The expenee of shipping wasvery considerable, and this being taken into account, the. present rates wai , not to be conceived too high. . . The Petition was then read•opd ordered to lie on the table ; as were one preiented by Mr. SehtNo RICE, from Tiperary, against the Coroner's Bill,,end one by Sir Jolts: NitwetoiTe hoot Waterford, respectipg the Irish Salt Duty, similar to that presented from Cork by ilir. C. II trrentiNeosi. • •''' - SOCITIIVI'ARK PETITION. Mr. C. CALVERT presented a Petition from the initabie tent Householders of Southwark. Iticomplained 9f exctiesive taxation, occasioned by art overpaid 41inistry, and an exces sive list of unmerited pensions and sioecuro, fit prayed for the ' repeal of the 'Septennial Rill, for the repeal of the Asseseql TaxeS, and that the House would p as s a Hill to re f orm itself, in order that it might truly represent the peole. Sir RO 11E112 WILSON paid, that if a Petition . detinved attention in proportion to the respectability and temper of the Meeting- at which it was resolved omit, this would claim the highest attention of the House. Every branch of thi pub* interest mat - suffer undoes taxation were considerably (limo- nished ; and in order to this being done effectually, the Pei , tioners thought, and lie thought with them, 'that a Reform 0' the Parliament was necessary. The demands of the Petitioners were not made from any temporary or local excitement, but af ter due and temperate consideration. The Petition was then Nought up and read. Mr. C. CALVER.T was ptefectly aware that the usual course.would he that the Petition be ordered to lie ou the table, and then that no further notice, be taken of it. lie should, therefore ; in discharge of his duty, have moved that the subject of the Petition be referred to a Committee of the whole. House; but that lie was uware he shOuld, by doing so, . open the whole question of Parliamentery Reform. With .this opinion, he con ceived it Would' be better for hint to leave the subject in better and abler halide than his own ; and he should wait until a Noble. Lord (lend J. Russell) should bring forsvard his pro raised Plotien on that subject. • The l Petition was the ordered to lie on the table and ha printed; INSOLVENT ACT. Mr. IIEATIICOTE presented a Petition from the trades men and inhabitants of Boston praying fur a total repeal of the • Insolvent-Act. Lord ALTHORP observed that much complaint had been made against the principle of the Insolvent Act, founded upon certain returns, by which it appeared that the debtors who had availed themselves of the Act had not paid three farthings in the pound. He found that these returns were made under the old Act of 18191 and the evil, thererOre, ID its full extent wets not fairly attributable to the present Act. it w ee also to b e remarked, that a debtor watt frequently under the necessity of -. inserting in his schedule, some of his itches three or fou r times 61 , er; tometit the possible claims of different individuals, aris ing out of the same transaction. This, in many cases, swelled ~ the nominal amount of the debts, and affected the dividend .. which heti been coloulated upon them. Mr. II EATIICOTE, in explanation stated, th a t th e Peti. tuners distiecily refe.rred .to debts, amounting to eleven mil lions, the dividends uptee which had **mounted to only 60,0001- The Petition was reed, and ordered to lie on the table. Lord A. I.IA.MILTON moved for certain Returns connected ' with the Elections for &iota BurglisOrdered.. -. POSTMASTERS GENERAL Lord .NOIIMAN.BY wished to ask his Alteiesty's Ministers ' what steps had been taken in 0030qm:rice. of the Resoletions • of the House last Session, for the abolition of the Office. of one of the Postmasters General. He understood that although the Salary of the Office in question was taken away, no alteration had been made in the construction of,the ()dice. If this were the case, it appeared that'lt Public ofileer was allowed by N. . sisters to g 0 Without that remuneration to which they cousider aidhim entitled, or that a reflection had been thrown upon the vote of the !louse. • Secretary PEEL said. he could only answer, that in cons sequence oldie Resolution of the House, no Salary: had been paid for the performance of the duties attached to the Office in question. . Lord NOEMANRY.said, this was precisely what be had alluded to. He thought this arrangement printed somewhat invilliuusly at the Resolution which had been coins to by the House: - BOARD OF ORDNANCE. Mr. lIMIE *aid, he lied no doubt the"sobject ha was about to introduce to the notice of the House .would be fonnd to be one deserving of the most serious attention. He had, in the outset to observe, that the Commission of 141ilitary Inquiry, the' Re. ports'of which were before the House, had been uppointed,in ,consequence of the 45th of Geo. 111. cap. 27,.f or inquiring into and correcting abuses of the Military Department of the public service. Thw being a Board of Inquiry appointed by . Ilerlia. Mont, he conceived that it was entitled to greater attention than anymthersubsequent 130ard, not so appointed; should that be mentioned in the course of the present dittussion. `lllO Boerd wet well formed ; it was composed of the late Oen. Oakes, Gen. Drinkwater ' Mr. ()lies Teropleman, and other respectrible per., sons in eiviland military offices. It had made avieral Reports, particularly with regard to the Ordnance, to whielthe for the present intended to confine himself. The Board of Ordnance was originally constituted in the reign of Charles Xl, awl the Comminioners in question had made seven Reports upon a Sys. tern of mismanagement growing out of this appointatent. That system had now been put,an end tie; bui ! the Report to which he now begged. the attention of alto Hous.e was the 13th.... The Commissioners; in the commencement of their .Report,,stated as an apology for its delay, that they had been anxious to col. lect every information, and to make . the most minute inqtiirics touching the.aubject upon which it treated; so ate the House might be satisfied that this Report had been 'prepared with every possible attention, and with as complete knowledge by its authors of all the necessary facts. They first stated the formation of the Board of Onlnance, which consisted of a Muster.Genexal, ,idiuteriant-Odntral, Surveyor.Ucneral, a Clerk, a Storekeeper, and a Clerk of Deliveries, in ail six per. sons... To these different offices various duties were attach ed, and certain salaries were annexed to the performance of therm, (if the duties he should speak afterwards ; but as to the salaries, they had been considered by the t:knuiniesioners to have been too mach increased. That of illaster.Cieneral bad been increased front 1,6001. to 3,2351., that of Lieutenant. General from 1,1001. to 1,5911., that. of Surveyor.OtnetalTrom 11001. to 1,1101/, that of Clerk front 0001. to .1.14 a, 'flit of Storekeeper from 6001. to 1, 1 401., 'and that of Cilia the Pe liveries, from 4(001: to 1,045/. The and, bad pro. eeeded toetoirD'tne several individuals as to the duties :insets/ to these offices,. Some, it iipeartil, were no longer pertOrrned, and it was a lactation wit h the Co' no whether this ought to be suffered. The question applied particularly to 'the Surveyor and Storekeeper s °dices; indeed the latter Was onsidered altogether as s inecure. „Then, as to the Clerk o.f . tetivexieay ho, b y t h e general orders., or One of hie gworn clerks, ought to be present at every deliFery ; but b one of thoie innevationte„, at ether tiitAo l soMttql t.attiPWilat,il tit, the