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Vtirti ambition. SUN OFFICE, Seven e'Clock. THE LONDON GAZETTE. (THIS EVENING.) LORD CHAMBERLAIN'S OFFICE, APRIL 7,1852, Notice is hereby given, that her Majesty will hold a Drawing-room, at St. James's Palace, on Thursday, 13th May next, at two o'clock (to celebrate her Majesty's birth-day). N.B. Tho Knights of the several orders are to appear in their collars. LORD CHAMBERLAIN'S OFFICE, APRIL 30. Orders for the Court's going into monrning on Sunday next, the 2d of May, for his late Roy al Highness the Grand Duke of Baden, viz.: —The Ladies to wear black silk, fringed or plained linen, white gloves,. necklaces, and ear rings, black or white shoes, fans, and tippets. The Gentle men to wear black full-trimmed, fringed or plain linen, black swords and buckles. The Court to change the mourning on Wednesday next the sth of May, viz :—The Ladies to wear black silk or velvet, coloured ribbons, fans, and tippets, or plain white, or white and gold, or white and silver stuffs, with black rib bons. The gentlemen to wear black coats, and black or plain white, or white and gold, or white and silver stuff waist coats, full trimmed, coloured swords and buckles. And on Sunday, the 9th of May next, the Court to go out of mourning. DOWNING-STREET, APRIL 29. The Queen has been pleased to appoint Samuel Wal Jones, Esq., to be Colonial Surgeon for her Majesty's Settle ments on the Gold Coast. ST. JAMES'S-PALACE, Arrat 26. The Queen has been pleased, on the nominat ion of the Earl of Sandwich, to appoint Francis John Llelyar, Esq., one of her Majesty's Honourable Corps of Gentlemen -at - Arms, vice Joseph Skip Lloyd, retired. CROWN-OFFICE, APRIL 30. MEMBERS RETURNED TO SERVE IN THIS PRESENT PALIA. MENT.. City of Worcester—William Laslett, Esq , in the room of Francis Rnfford, Esq., who has accepted the office of Steward of her Majesty's Chiltern Hundrecis. Borough of Tavistock—Samuel Carter, Esq., in the room of John Sainsbury Trelaw.nye,,Esq., who has accepted the office of Steward of her Malesty s Manor of Hempholme. WAR-OFFICE, APRIL 30. 2nd Regiment of Dragoon Guards—Lieutenant John Cle ments to be Adjutant, vice Haviland, promoted to an Un attached Company, without purchase, April 30. 4th Dragoon Guards—Lieutenant John Mac Donnell Webb to be Captain, by purchase, vice Lane, who retires; Cornet George Manners Morgan to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Webb, April 30. 10th Light Dragoons—Second Lieutenant Valentine Baker, from the Ceylon Rifle Regiment, to be Cornet, by purchase, :rice Beckett, who retires, April 30. Ist Regiment of Foot—Ensign Frederick Augustus Smith to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Aytoun, who retires, April 1. 4th Foot—Ensign William Winniett, from the 75th Foot, to be Ensigu, vice Crozier, appointed to the 73th Foot, April 30. 55th Foot—Lieutenant Reginald Yonge Shipley to be Captain, by purchase. vice Pitman, who retires; Ensign Frederick Cockayne Elton to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Shipley, April 30. 59th Foot—Major-General Co.orge, Augustus Henderson, E.C., to be Colonel, vice Lieutenant-General Sir John Harvey, K.C.B , deceased, April 27. 65th Foot—Lieutenant Thomas Barnard to be Captain, by purchase, vice Mc Coy, who retires; Ensign Charles Astley Miguel Servantes to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Barbard, April 20. 720 Foot—Quartermaster Seijeant John Mac Dot:aid to be Quarterm , ster, vice Boden, who resigns. April 30. 75th Foot—Ensign William Crezier, from the 4th Foot, to be Ensign, vice Winnie,t, appointed to the 4th Foot.. 86th Foot—Brevet Lieutenay.t-Colonel James Creagh to be Lieutenant-Colonel, without purchase, vice Derinzy, ap pointed Inspecting Field ()Weer of a recruiting district; Brevet Lieutenan-t:oionel R berg. Henry Lowth to be Major, without purchase, vice Creagh ; Lieutenant Joshua Henry Kirby to be Captain, without purchase, vice Lowth; Ensign Henry Edward Jerome to be Lieutenant, without purchase, vice Ki,rby, April 30. Rifle Brigade —First Lieutenant Edward Newdigate to be jby purchase, vice Warren, who retires; Second Lieutenant Francis Walter Balfour to be First Lieutenant, bs purchase, vice Newdigate, April 30. STAFF.—Brevet-Colonel Bartholomew Vigors Derinzy, from the 86th Foot, to be Inspecting Field ()Neer of a Re cruiting District, vice Davis, deceased, April 3). UNATTACHED.—Lieutenant Francis Haviland, from the 2d Dragoon Guards, to be Captain, without purchase, April 30. WAR. OFFICE, Arm:, 24, 1852. The Queen has been pleased to appoint Lieutenant- Colonel George Rice, Lord Dynevor, of the Royal Carmar then Regiment of Militia, to be one of her Majesty's Aides de-Camp for the service of her Militia Force, with the rank of Colonel in that Force, vice Lord Dinorben, deceased. April 24. Her Majesty has, at the same time, been pleased to direct that the said Lord Dynevor should take rank as one of the Senior Colonels of Militia immediately after the Junior Colonel of her Majesty's Forces. Commission by the Lord-Lieutenant of Merionethshihire. John Jones, Esq., to be Deputy-Lieutenant, April 23. Commission by tne Lord-Lieutenant of Montgomeryshire. Montgomeryshire Yeomanry Cavalry— Georgs Henry Robert Charles, Viscount Seaham, to be Captain, vice Tam berlame, resigned ; Edward Peel, Gent., to be Lieutenant, vice Meares, deceased. April 27. BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED. William Harris, draper, Kingstcn-upon-Bull. BANKRUPTS. William Wymark, whartinger, Mistley, Essex, May 14, and June 11, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Stans f official assignee; Hubblrd, Bucklersbury. James GulEck, common brewer, Yalding, Kent, May 14, at wilf past one, and June 18, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Cannan, official assignee, Aldermanbury ; .Nicbolis and Doyle, Gray's Inn ; Morgan, Maidstone. John Warren, dentist, George-street, Hanover-square, May 8, at half-past eleven, and June 11, at half-past one, at tie Court of Bankruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee, Ba;ir.ghall-street ; Tate, Basinghall-street. William Thomas Gibson, baker, High-street, Islington, May 13, at twelve, and June 8, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Edwards, official assignee, Sambrook-court, Basinghall-street ; Valance and Valence, Exeter-street , Strand. William Collins, draper, Marlborough, May 10, at twelve, and June 10, at eleven, at the Court of Ban7ruptcy. John son, official assignee, Basingiaali-street ; Sole and Turners, Aldermanbury, , Joseph Newbold, innkeeper, Barton-under-Needwood, Staf fordshire, May 10 and June 7, at half-past ten, at the Bir mingham District Court. Valpy, official assignee, Birming ham; Bass, Burti , n-upon-Trent ; Wright, Birmingham. Alexander M'Kerrow, draper, Kingston-upon-Hull, 26 and Jule 16, at twelve, at the Leeds District Court. Carrick, official assignee, Hull ; Neild, Manchester; Shackles and Son, Hull. PRICE OF SUGAR. The average price of Brown or Muscovado Sugar, corn. pitted from returns made in the week ending April 27, 1852, exclusive of Customs Duties paid or payable thereon on the importation thereof into Great Britain : From the British possess ions in America 21 s. 6 d. per cwt From the Mauritius 245. 41d. „ From the East Indies - 203. 11 d. „ Overag e price of the three foregoing de 'wit_ 'lotions of sugar, jointly, computed as a ' 4 °e, and exclusive of duty ... 1 0d• By authority of Parliament, G . %Nay BickNELL, Clerk of the Grocers' Compa n y 4 "W-hall, April 30. BANK OF ENGLAND. ett (rom night's Gaze.) An Account, Ptranan Ft to the this Act Ith and Bth of Victoria, oap. 32 for th'' Week gb ling on Eaturclay, the 24th gay of April, 1852. TISSIJIC DEPA3TMINT. Notes issued.... ' E • 33,099,150 Government debt •• 11,015,100 Other securities .. • . 2,984,900 Gold coin and bullion 19,065,775 Silver bullion • • 33,375 Z 3 3,11:;9,150 Dated the 29th day of April, 14 RANItvG ProprietoFs'eapitai•• 14,553,000 Rest - • • • • • • • • 3,09 i, 1 10 rablic • depos its (in clading Exchequer, Commissioners of National Debt, Sav ings-banks, and Di vidend scCOttn 1.3) • • 2,993,37583 Oth e r deposits • • • . 14,472, Seven day and other Bins..••••••_ 1,207,142 33,039,150 MARSHALL, Chief Cashier. 'AtT3aN T . 7 0riarnent 3aeuri- I * AU (including Dead O4 . l. :eight Annuity) • • 13,335,77 n Notesher eeuxitiee •. • • 10,999,619 rield 11,500,305 tuad ailv — e . r . ool . n . • • • 438,520 - (36,324,-23 ,324, 31. minsuaLL, Chief.£3ol ashier. 223 52. of April, 185! THE works, also, the author had the power of authorising any particular translation of his work. This also the Noble Lord considered reasonable. But it went further; an author might for five years prevent any other person from translating his works, and this the I Noble Lord considered to be a very dan gerous right. The Noble Lord also stated other reasons which induced him to think that his Bill would extend the power of copyright too far. The Marquis ef NORMANBY stated that the object of the Bill was to prevent pirated editions of English works being circulated abroad. In a conversation which the Noble Lord had held with Monsieur Galigsani that gentleman had told him that in his opinion the measure was a most excellent one, and deserved the greatest support. The Noble M ar q uis was convinced that the better part of English literature would receive a degree-of protection that it had never received before. Under those circumstances he should support the Bill. Lord CRANWORTH considered that it was neces sary to consider both the advantages and disadvantages, and consider which preponderated. He himself would not offer any opposition to the Bill. et After some further conversation the Bill passed through Committee. The Prevention of Sheep Disorders Bill and the Exchequer Bills Bill were then read a third time. Their Lordships adjourned a few minutes before Six o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the Chair a few minutes before Four o'clock. NEW MEMBER. Mr. LASLETT, the new Member for Worcester, took the oaths and his seat. The Hon. Gentleman was introduced by Sir Joshua Walm4ey and Mr. Cobden. PRIVATE BILLS. The East London Waterworks Bill and Scarborough Market and Approaches Bill were considered and agreed to. The British Empire Mutual Life Assurance Com pany Bill was read a third time and passed. PETITIONS. Several petitions were presented against the grant to May nooth. Sir J. FILMER presented several petitions from various places in Kent praying for the repeal of the hop duties. A number of petitions were presented praying for the repeal cf the attorneys' certificate duty. Mr. T. BARING presented a petition praying the House to take steps to prevent the adulteration of coffee. Mr. W. WILLIAMS presented several petitions from various parts of Wales against the Militia Bill. Mr. MANGLES presented a similar petition from Bodmin, end Air. H. BERKELEY from Bristol. Mr. SCULLY presented a petition from the county of Tipperary in tavJur of tenant-right. Lord HARRY VANE presented a petition from the College of St. Cuthbert, in the county of Durham, pray ing to be exempted from the operation of the Charitable Trusts Bill. Mr. LOCKHART presented a petition from the hand loom weavers of Scotland, in favour of home colonization. Mr. TUFNELL presented a petition from Devonport praying for an alteration of the present mode of asses sing houses for the income-tax. MILITIA BILL. Mr. W. J. FOX Er.ve notice that in Committee he should move the insertion of a clause in the Militia Bill, to the cffEct that no man should be liable to compulsory service in the nailitic,whoso name was not on the regis- tration list as au elector tor some city, county, or borough. THE CAPE. Mr. HUME wished to ask the Secretary for the Co lonies whether petitions had been received from the Cape to her Mejesty for the removal of the Government Se cretary, Mr. IVlehtagu, ,on the ground of his continued obstruction et the passage of the Constitution Ordi nances; and if so, whcther copies of such petitions would be presented to the House? Sir J. PAKINGTON said by the last mail several pe titio,:s were received, some in favour of the new consti tution, and others against it. One of the former was signed by 400 or 500 persons, praying for the removal of Mr.. Montagu, but he did rot think it would be wise to prcduce it at present. Mr. HLTME wished to know when they were to re ceive further accounts of the proceedings of the war? Sir J. PAKINGTON said he could not answer that question till the next mail arrived. THE UNIVER►SITY COMMISSION. Mr. HEYWOOD asked the Secretary of State for the Home Departnient whether a report from the Commis sioners appointed to inqeire into the University and Colleges of Oxford had teen received, and when he will lay it on the table of the House? Mr. WALPOLE said he had received the report of the Oxford Commission, but he could not lay it on the table until he received the permission of her Majesty to do so. QUEBEC AND MONTREAL RAILWAY. In roply to Mr. COBDEN, Sir J. 'FAKING TON said the late Government had given no aisent whatever as to giving a guarantee to this railway; but the subject was now in negotiation and under the consideration of the Government. Before any guarantee was given the opinion of Parliament would be taken on it. GENERAL ROSA. 9.. On the motion that the House at its rising do adjourn until Monday next, Mr. ROEBUCK called for the produo:ion of the Treasury order issued to receive M. Roses, and to faci litate the passing of his effects and luggage through the Custom-house, and asked questions respecting the con duct of the authorities at Plymouth upon the arrival of M. Roses. The Honourable Member said General Roses had been guilty of great atrocities in Mexico. He was no friend to the people of this country or to good !government, and he should to glad to know if it was true that this Treasury warrant had been issued? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said this country had long been in negotiation with the General, and her Majesty had made treaties with him, and he had no hesitation in saying that the order was sent down. It was a matter of form, and Government had no desire to shrink from its responsibility. It did not exempt the goods and chattels of the General from the duties which the law imposed upon them, but simply required. the Custom -house authorities ,to extend to the General that consideration and courtesy which was due to a nrson who had filled the exalted station which the General had recently lost.—(Hear, hear.) Any other indulgences which had been granted to the General, the Government were not responsible for, but they were quite willing to acknowledge the Treasury order.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. HUME said the Government had gone out of its way in this matter, and he should be glad to know if the Admiralty had sent out any orders._(Hear, hear.) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said no orders had been issued by the Admiralty, but the Go vernment entirely approved of all that had been done in this matter. Dated bile 29th IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT,EVE,ING.) N (THIS HOUSE OF LORDS: Their Lordships akiembled at Five o'clock. Lord RED ESDALE p res ided on the Woolsack in the absence of the Lord ChancelVr. GENERAL ROSAS. Lord XtALMESBURY, in answer to a question put to hiss by a Noble Lord, stated that instructions had been seat to the authorities at Portsmouth to give every facility to General Rosas in clearing his luggage, &c. It was simply a mark of courtesy duo to any dis tinguished foreigner. The Earl of ABERDEEN wars of opinion that show ing any courtesy to General Rosas would be considered as some degree of partizanship, which would have a mis chievous t ffect. Lord BEAUMONT applauded the motives which had actuated the Brithh Government in this affair. The Noble Lord did not consider it proper, because in foreign countries we might be liable to misapprehension, that we were entitled to show want of courtesy to a foreigner wito had occupied the position of General Rosas. PETITIONS. Lard ABERDEEN presented a petition from a place in Scotland in favour of the abolition of tests in the Scotch Universities. CROWN CHURCHWARDENSHIP OF MARY LE BONE, L ''''. l PORTMAN said that he did not desire to Proceed :vita .- a the motion, because he had received a c ommunicati on fied him th irons the Prime Minister, which satis- Crown his removal from office of the any intimation churchwardeno of Sc. Marylebone, without founded 0 , 1 poli ts intentle,l removni, WEIS neither solely on n mi,eo,ll aor personal ground, but of proceeding arisin g fr t i "n as to the right course Commit.riDner of Wo4,—,tlT inexperience of the First L 0 e • w frorn the inaccurate infor. Trn in this case. ; mation riven to him r,% ' The Earl of DERBY E.t a ,;,, sre 4 l exp!enation, that the RI ht Hon. Grntlemsn the bar cccived a clmmunicatie n f t ,' 11.7 for /id .. , stating thn; a new Cro Homo Affairs wn aa eh tho rector of the short he - deottd, and that ihe o l d _u_rr-hwarden must rst, - 4,1 -'-'., was desirous of de—cl"o".f the n COPYRIGHT AMENMIENT BILL. 4 , Le f d BENUMONT stat:d that the GI -7--. vo4on had been to reduce the duties upon hooka. this extent he quite agreed. For the MAJOR BROWNRIGGE. In reply to Mr. REYNOLDS , Mr. NAPIER said the Government had received a report from Major Brownrigge on the subject of ribbon ism, and is Dublin newspaper, in defiance of all previous courtesy, had published its contents. The newspaper knew more of his intentions on the subject than he did himself; but he could assure the House that the Go vernment had not yet made up its mind on the subject of the report. The motion for the adjournment of the House was then agreed to. THE BUDGET. The House having resolved itself into a Committee of 1 Ways and Means, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER rose to make his financial statement. He said—The chief branch of the revenue having ceased by lapse of time, and a eoniiderable deficiency having acMally ensued, it would be incumbent on him, were there no other reasons, to invite the consideration of the House to the state of the finances. Of late years commercial considerations were so mixed up with the arrangement of public finances, and unhappily political passion was so blended with all the points of commercial controversy, that ho felt it presumptuous to hope that on this occasion he would obtain the serious and calm attention of the House on the great subject which he was about to bring under their consideration. When there was a cessation in a considerable source of the revenue, and there was necessarily a consider able deficiency in the public income, one question naturally ., occurred to every one. What were the P t el li t l o " aea the Practicable means, and at the same time the most or the most popular, or rather the least most practicable, which could be adop foreign raised by supplythe deficiency? Now the revenue was impo : t e methods, by duties on articles of cable and most likely manufacture, , e by duties on articles of domestic direct taxation, Which of these means was most practi nd largely by a system of to obtain the consent of the coun try, in order to p l at© first the . finances in a satisfactory state? In regard to the abolition and former sessions of n cit o s f , customs duties, ho did had occurred' i n the he aaid that observing what aleat: ons duties would he a with regard to the not think any increas e in hear.)th From 1842 to jEg Plan' been the financial condi imported continued reduc vlBersyl etchce°rlrreamg arkable feature repealed or articles.reducedbduties Lion of the country had On ba fo d re b ig e n en In those on coffee, timber, corn, wool, sugar, e ee . ten tio n ye o a f rs clut the re that period the total sum of customs dunes abolished amounted to 9,000,000/. sterling. It would be shed ' sumptuous therefore to suppose he could present House to supply the deficiency by the imposi tion of fresh import duties. Had he a more encourag ing prospect if be asked them to have recourse to a duty on articles of domestic manufacture? Now, one party in the House had advocated the repeal of the Customs datiee, as a means of relieving the industry of the country, and its saccess had been exemplified by that roductlon of fee Curtorns duties which he had jest mentioned. Thar© was also another party, W hi ch, if not so triumphant, was important from its numbers an , ' the enl and conviction with which it maintained i ts op , nions, who asserted that the best method of relieving cativo industry was to repeal the" Excise duties. j No man was a more ardent supporter of that opinion 1 than the late Lord G. Bentinoli, it has received the FRIDAY UN, LONDON, authority of authors of the highest repute, and he him self thought it was one of considerable benefit. — (Bear, hear.) But if there was one side of . _ he House which thought Customs duties injurious and another side of the Souse, who also repudiated Excise duties, what was the prospect of a Chancellor of the Exchequer if his means of supplying a deficiency were limited to these two expedients only? But gentlemen on the other side of the House, though they objected to Customs duties par ticularly, had also a similar objection to Excise duties, and when he looked to the catalogue of the suc- useful measures which had been made within the last ten years on this branch of the revenue, be found that they had reduced the duties on vinegar, auctions, glass, and bricks, by which a sum of nearly 1,500,0001. was struck off the revenue. Bat this was not all; only this day week a Right Hon. Gentleman, once a member of the late Government, and a member of that confederation which of late years had exer- cised so important a control over the financial po licy of the country, had come forward to propose a re peal of the Exccise duties to the amount of at least 1,400,0001. Under those circumstances the House would agree with them that not only withregard to Cus toms duties, but also with respect to Excise duties, a Minister who should propose to supply any deficiency by an increase of them, would embark in an enterprise ex tremely difficult. But the difficulties of an individual in his position were not limited to those two branches. They heard a great deal in that House, Etpecially from Gentle men opposite, on what they called raising a revenue by direct taxation.—(Opposition cheers.) He welcomed that cheer as showing the attention which Hon. Gentlemen opposite would pay to him on this subject, and he felt himself favoured by it; but he thought that when he came to go further into the details of the matter he should not have the adhesion of Honourable Gentlemen opposite so welcomely given. Within the last ten years the House and the country had had considerable experience with regard to this third mode of taxation. It was exactly tea years ago since one of the most distinguished statesmen of modern times, who had had a great share in the reduction of customs and excise duties, to which he had alluded, first introduced the measure which entailed a considerable weight of direct taxation on the country. Every one must remember that that tax was introduced into the House apologetically as a measure necessitated by an exi gency framed for an emergency; and even under these circumstances the House would not consent to it, with out its being framed on a large basis of exemption. There was no evidence then either in the House or the country of any great feeling in favour of direct taxation. Despite of the great talents of its framer, it was only adopted afier considerable discussion, and before the end of the ten years it had become so odious that its existence was only renewed upon the severe condition of being submitted to the critical ecru tiny of a Committee up-stairs. So far then as direct taxation was concerned, the conduct of the House and the country had not been any more encouraging than it had been with respect to the other modes to which he had alluded. Ho had hoped before being called upon to make his statement to have had the report before him of the Committee on this tax ; but, as he had not, it would be presumptuous to give any decided opinion on those points which were under the con sideration of that Committee . (Hear, hear. One great objection to the tax upon property and in come was unquestionably. that there was no difference as to the mode and rate of assessment upon incomes of a temporary and permanent c haracter.—(Hear.) Now that important question was now submitted to a Com mittee, and, as he had said before, it would be arrogant in him to give an opinion upon the subject.—(Hear.) But they had received the completest evidence from the ablest men of the age, who had made the principles upon which this tax was based their direct study, and who had brcught to bear upon it before the Committee all that science and learning could accomplish, and although he could not presume now ito enter into a discussion of the justice or injustice of the income-tax ; yet he could say, that if al the precautions of these eminent actuaries were adopted, he should still be painfully sensible that Schedule A, Schedule B, and Schedule C would nevertheless be quite as odious as Sche dule D.—(Loud cheers.) Well, then, in con sidering this system of raising revenue, he could not shut his eyes to the fact, that the feelings of the people must be considere d as we ll as the principles of scieece.—(Hear, hear.) But there was another point upon which he could speak with more frankness, relating to the tax upon property and income. He had not pre sumed to give an opinion upon the justice or injustice of this method of raising revenue; but there was one point upon which the Committee was unanimous, and upon which he believed both the House and the country were unanimous that be could advert to it without hesitation. A tax of this nature, if it was to bo rendered permanent, could not rest upon a system of exemption.—(Cheers.) No doubt, direct taxation in theory was a simple, easy, and captivating process; but when they wished to apply direct taxation gene rally it was astonishing what obstacles and objections now raised against it, and yet a direct tax of this nature to be tolerated must be rendered universal.— (Hear, hear.) The palace and the cottage must pay its equal proportion, but here the House would see again that no system of direct taxation could be rendered so universal as indirect.—(Hear, bear.) No doubt a tax of this nature, established to meet an emergency or a temporary purpose must be based on a large system of exemption; but though a direct tax of this nature might be imposed for the sake of promoting industry, without looking to the financial consequences of such a system, they could not but feel that, in the long run, coupled as it must belwith exemptions, it was little less than a system of confiscation. avowedly as a temporary measure, but in speaking of a system of advance, and when a tax like that under discus sion was at issue, it became absolutely necessary to consider its features.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") For the last two years, then, the Minister had been com pelled to go as it were upon his knees to the House of Commons to seek a continuance of this tax, while last year the Exchequer was deprived of two millions by the repeal of the window-tax, which was asked for on sanitary grounds.—(No, no.) He should be able to show this if the House would bear with him, as well as that the sanitary objects contemplated could have been accomplished without the repeal of the tax.—(Cries of "Hear, hear.") He thought he should have no difficulty in showing that, lest, perhaps, those who disputed the amount lost to the revenue were thinking of the house tax, which was substituted for it, It was in fact making war upon capital which ultimately must employ that very industry which was sought to he relieved and encouraged—(hear, hear)—and yet a tax framed with all the precautions which he had men tioned had met with great odium, and was still admitted to be unequal and unjust. In saying this he was raising no objection to the Minister who introduced it, The Committee would be at least of opinion that the difficulty of raising the revenue was not confined to custom's duties and excise duties, for if any attempt were made to exercise a direct system of taxation on any principle calculated to produce a permanent effect, it was stopped by prejudice and remonstrance. Everyone looked upon a Chancellor's surplus as a thing for prey and plunder.—(Laughter.) In the general scramble, every one wished to obtain his purpose, and no one looked to the future. The inevitable danger impending bpon the finances was that while all demanded relief, some laid down principles which would prevent the imposition of taxes or any shape whatever. The events of ten years showed this result—that the House of Commons disapproved of all the means of taxation, viz., duties on imports, direct taxation, and Excise duties. We would now call the at tention of the House to the income and expenditure. (LEFT SPEAKING.) MARKET INTELLIGENCE. (From the London New Price Current, April 30.) SUGAR.—To-day the supply of West India Sugar at market was far from sufficient for grocers or refiners wants ; the sales in consequence were only 189 hhds, &c., at stiffer rates. For the week, the quantity sold is 4,890 hhds, &c, and the advance Is per.cwt. REFINED.—To-day there was more activity in the home trade Refined market, and it is difficult to obtain brown lumps under 45s 6d per cwt. The export demand for Crushed Sugar is evidently on the increase, and former terms are well supportedc MAURITIUS.—This afternoon the quantity of Mauritius Sugar submitted to public sale amounted to 17,600 bags, 70 casks. The demand was brisk, and the whole sold at full rates; indeed, in some cases, the advance on Tuesday's prices was Cd per cwt ; fine yellow realised 36s to 375 6d, good 34s 6d to 35s 6d, low to mid 32s to 345, good to fine brown 29s to 31s 6d, very ord to mid 24s to 28s 6d, and grey sorts 32s to 365. EAST Ix-DlA.—This afternoon the demand was again active for Bengal Sugar, and a rise of Gd to is per cwt took place. At public sale 11,300 bags were sold; Benares, good to fine went at 35s to 38s Gcl, low to mid 333 to 345 6d, damp and washed 32s to 375, fine greyish yellow 32s to 335, ord to mid like Mauritius 31s to 335, Khaur 24s to 25s 6cl, and fine brown 26s to 275. The previous currency is well sustained for Madras, with many buyers. At auction 1,540 bags were sold ; mid to good grocery 33s 6d to 375, ord 32s 6d to 335, soft brown 24s to 25s 6d, and ord yellow do 26s to 26s 6d. FoREIGN.—To-day several parcels of Brazil and yellow Havannah were sold privately for shipping, at f u ll former rates. None was submitted to public sale, and the market closes with a firm tone. MoLassLs - .—There are several buyers of West India, and stiffer rates offered. Prices for Barbadoes and Antigua rule at 13e to 14s, and other sorts 12s to 12s 6d; Bengal and Mauritius in small parcels realised 11s to 12s, Cuba and Porto Rico 13s to 13s 6d. Honey, good to fine Jamaica 48s to 545, ord low to mid 38s to 463. Tamarinds remain in good request. Sales of East India made at Os 6d to 12s; West India at 24s to 345 per cwt. CoFFEE.—This afternoon there was less business done in Native Ceylon Coffee. By private treaty 1,500 bags changed bands. Of 147 casks 344 bags at auction a part found buyers at 43s for good ord. Plantation Ceylon is less wanted, but the previous value is generally sustained. Of 500 half 6oo o b f a casks 100 bags at auction about one-half sold ; low mid to mid went at 54s to 573, fine to fine fine ord 49s to 535, bags went 51 balesfo for fine e h fi a n l triage 38s to 465, and pea berry 63s to 655. Mocha was held for full rates, but attracted little attention, and barely and 324 frazils sold at 70s taken in g6 to 815 for ord togood mid yellow clean garbled. Of African, went g at 40s for good ord. 30 brls Jamaica were COCOA. _There is improvement in the demand for ere not the least halt-bales e for foreign, and supplies larger than previously ; at auction 1,500 bgs Para were taken in at 25s 6d, end 283 bgs Bahia 24s to 255. The value of Guavaquill is 283 to 295. For West India privately several p ar cels have been sold at rat h er higher rates, Trinid a d fi ne red realizing 39s to 445, good 36s to 3Ss, ord to mid 325 to 355, grey 28s to 32 5, Gr enada and St. Lucia 2Ss to 31s pe r cwt. TEA,—To-day Tea was brisk, and there are few sellers of good ord sound Congou under 9 1 /.,d. RlCE.—There was no rice at auction to-day, and few sales privately. 146 chests of Sago were taken in at 23s 6d for good white large pearl, and 626 bgs Sago Flour sold at 14s. SPICES.—There is still a small supply of Pepper, and at previous rates several purchases have been made privately ; Malabar realising 3', 7 d to 4 V, Sumatra and Penang 3 3 / 4 d to 3 - Ad. At auction 423 bgs of the former sold at 3%cl for half heavy. White is yet much in request; the rates paid being from 8 1 i,d to lid; few parcels are yet on offer. Cayenne continues to meet with little attention, and there is a fair supply. At auction 110 bxs were sold at 7-0; 6 pkgs West India Is 9d to Is lid per lb. Pod is cheaper, and a small portion only of 118 bgs sold at 39s to 50s for low to good. Cassia Lignea are with little notice. At auction 63 cases sold ; pile one at 120 s, ditto 3 114 s to II Es, ditto three 110 s, mouldy 107 x, and broken 93s per cwt. In Pimento several purchases made privately at 4/7d to 4 7 / B d, and the market has a firm tone. A public sale of 201 bgs went at 4 3 / 4 d to 4%d for mid to good. Of Mace supply is not adequate for the demand; prices for first sort rule at 2s 3d to 23 6d: other sorts is 10.1 to 2s 2d. At auction 10 cases damaged reolized is 4d to is 2d. Pre vious rates are well sustained for Nutmegs, supply being small, and a good demand existing. Sales privately of fine and good brown made at 2s 8d to 3s Bd, and common to mid 2s to 23 7d. At auction 12 cks Dutch limed sort at is for wormy, and is 8d to is 9d for mid. The value of better scrts is is 10d to 2s 4d. Of Cassia Buds none yet in first hands. Cassia Vera is wanted at 505 to 1,645, and yet in scanry supply. Cinnamon is not cheaper, and inferior sorts are wanted; in better kinds I little is doing. Prices for Ceylon, first sort rule at is 10d to 2s 3d, seconds is 4d to 2s 3d, third and fourth is Id to is Bd. The quantity declared for auction is 1,603 bls Ceylon. Cloves are wanted ; Amboyna 7d to Bd, Penang lid to Is 2d, and Bourbon 6d to 6 1 / 2 d. In Ginger there is more business . doing, and at stiffer rates. At auction 197 cases Cochin realized 56s to 58s for good, low mid to mid 33s to 42s 6d ; 280 bags African 253 to 26s 6d. Privately Jamaica has been selling at from 42s to 4205, and fine 140 s to 1205 per cwt. FRUIT. —A very large business has been done in Currants at better prices ; new at 30s to 365, and old 24s to 265. The demand for Valenta Raisins continues dull, notwithstanding the low price, Valentia being 27s to 285, Dania 22s to 235. In Dluscatells a fair business doing. The few Turkey Figs higher prices. in the market, principally in second hands, are he ld for SmniTs.—There is a dull sale for East India Rum , and is 3id to is 4d per gallon proof is now the value. Le eward Island can be obtained at is sd. Demerara is offering upon low terms, and Is lid to 2s 2d is the value of 30 to 42 over proof. Jamaica has been operated in with reluctance, es pecially for home consumption. The supply is undiminished, and there are free sellers of choice sorts 35 to 38 over proof at 3s 4d to 4s, fine ditto 2s 10d to 3s 3d, good mid to good 32 to 34 over 2s 4d to 2s 9d, mid 2s to 2s 3d, and low 34 to 30 over is 10d to is lid per gallon. Sale of Cog nac best brands of the vintage of 1851 made at 4s 2d to 43 4d, 1850 ditto, 4s 54 to 4s 7d, 1849 ditto 4s 9d to 4e 11d, 1848 ditto 5s 3d to 5s 5d per gallon, and older 55 6d to 6s 6d, low to mid 2s 4d to 4s. and Bordeaux Islld to 2s Od. Trade is not b e tt er f or British made Spirit, and a desire is evinced to sell at 9s 8d to 9s 9d, net cash; Gin 22 under 83 6d, and 17 ditto 9s. Geneva is wanted at is 10d to is 11d, and fine ditto 2s Id to 284 d • stock is yet small. COCM-NRAL.—To-day f u ll ra tes Were asked for Cochineal, but there was not m uc h d eman d. Part of the parcels offered only sold : 68 bgs T ener iff e a t 3 s 8d to 33 lld for silvers , and black 4s to 4s 6d ; 22 b gs H o nduras, silvers, ord 35 B d , black ord to good 4 s Id to 4 s Bd, and 5 . 7 bgs of Mexica n silvers 3s 8d per lb. INDlGo.—Today at auction 44 srns Indigo w ent at stiff rates; 32 5d to 4s 7d for mid Cortes to good Sobres. SALTPETRE —To-day there was a reluctance to operate in Saltpetre, and late rates barely sustained. A small part only of 2,253 b gs C a l cu tt a in auction sold, refraction 414 30a 6d to 31s, 6% to by, ditto 29s to 2 9 s 6 d , 8 ditto 27s 6d, 9% to 10 ditto at 26s 6d to 275, and 14% 26s 6d per cwt. TALLOW. —Although transactions in Russian on the spot are limited, with a greater stock last season , y et merchants are firm, and obtain 353 9d to 36s for fine new Y.C. The demand is not better for delivery, yet the rates asked are 37s 3d to 373 6d for the last three months of the year. Home melted is in good demand, yet at 35s 6d to 36s net cash there are sellers. Of other sorts of Tallow a lar g er quantity is on offer' than last week, and the demand not better the terms of that time are not sustained. Of East India Vegetable 150 cases at auction sold at 38s 6d to 395. OILS. —To-day auction 35 tune Sperm Oil sold at 86/ to 88/. ss, and Headmatter 911, very low 821; 11 tuns Seal, pale 301 15s to 311, straw 29/, dark and yellow 281 103 to 291 ss. ; 40 cases Spermaceti is 13 . 1 6d. COURSE OF EXCH., Amdter; •• .• 12 2%; Mt°, th.ree months .. 12 2% 3:;tterdarn 12 2% 25 6214 25 62% R3:nburgh "MX. 13 11% Aitona• • ........ • • .... Paris, 3 dayeaight 25 45 Ditto, 3 montha .... 25 6'2 hfarseilLas •••••• • • 4. • • 25 62% 80urdeanx......... • • Frankforton Maine.... 122% Vienna, enc. 50...". 12 32 Trieste, ditto.. •••• • • •• 12 441 Petcrsbnrgh,slll. Bble.. 37 , 4 Madrid •••• •• •••• •• 49% Wiz 43A ) Barcelona •• •• •• •• Sevilla.. •• •• •• •• •• •• NN GE.-(THIS DAY.) aihraltax..•••••••••••. Leghorn •••• •••••• 30 $0 Genoa .. •• •••• ~.. •. .. 25 62% Milan ••• •• •• •• •• VeniCe•• •• p• •• .• . .... Naples •••••••• •• •• •• 40 Palermo, peroz •••••• •• 121% Messina •• •• •• •• •• •• •• i 22 Lisbon•• •• •• „ 53m Oporto •• •• •• •• •••..... s3►g Rio Janeiro Guenos Ayres — New York, 60 days'sight Philadelphia • • • • • • •• • • PSIOES 07 numosr. PER oz. Foreign Gold inbars..3 17 9 Portugal Gold Coin .. U 0 0 Spanish Doubloon .. 0 0 0 New Dollars ••.... 0 4 10 1 % . _ iSilvor in bars ........ 0 4 11 g FRAN CE. The French fleet has quitted Toulon, with five months' provisions; it goes first to Algeria. The English admiral is to meet the English fleet at Mi norca, and sail thence for Gibraltar, where it will be joined by some other ships, and set sail for Egypt and the Levant. The French fleet will proceed to the same destination after leaving Africa. The Public, which only yesterday advocated a new appeal to the people, has made a giant stride in ad vance to-day, and i sholds out the probability of the de finitive establishurnt of the Empire in twelve days from this time, bY the shouting of the soldiery in the Champ de Mars. This article is the most striking shadow of the coming event that has yet been seen. The Akhbar of Algiers states that, in the night of eeoaia t d r tribe, the Bth, the garrison of Tlemcen marched against the , to avenge the attack Mellouk, a tribe of the French territory. It was under the command of tßheenyi-hSanda madessen a Morocco th s, n General de Montauban. An en gagemen t t oo k place, and the Beni-Snassens had 150 killed, whilst the loss of the French was only 10 killed or wounded. The French cavalry alone were engaged, the rapidity of the march being such that the infantry could not keep up with them. A corpora l o f the spahis who fell into the bands of the Beni-Snassens, was literally backed to pieces, and they divided his flesh amongst them with a sort of ferociousjoy. The column of General de Montauban returned to Tlem cen on the 12th. Another expedition of a more se rious character against the hostile tribe was expected. SWITZERLAND. arsneresolved to convoke the Grand of the 28th, states that the Executive Council for the 10th May, in order to submit to its cons ideration several important measures, one of lett from u B which is said to be a law a ga i ns t th e a b use of the li berty of the press. ITALY. The Turin journals of the 26th inst. announce the arrival of M. Thiers in that city. In its sitting of the 24th, the Senate of Turin heard the report on th e Bill for the execution of the treaty of commerce with Prance; after which five Bills were introduced, viz.:—For the consular con vention ; the abolition of subsidies to ; the ta x o n pensions and sala ries ; the conce ssion of the Savigliano and Coni rail road ; and the re - organization of the guides of Cha fa the rs f w ilt2h childrenFr a nc e moon y. Tha House then adopted the Bill for the ondent of th e Ti mes, wr iti ng f rom R o me, the treaty of commerce with Sweden by following truthf u l an d f orc ibl e observa emsxoaeAkcveuoestteoi:stilhrteeoospis. tions:-- ‘, Th e Pope is in reality at this moment but a puppet conten ding for the temporal power, while the designing a nd crafty retained Cardinaln hi s place Ant by Austrian and French bayon ets o n elli stands by his side and usurps the spiritual authority. The stateis deeply in debt, the wretched paper and burdensome copper currency at a large dis count; and, though the Pope has enlarged the Jews in Rome, they would not lend him, the other day, a few thousand scudi to help out the shows, the fireworks, and the illuminations. The industry of the people is fearfully taxed; the population is diminished by tens of thousands; three thousand families mourn over the exile or the im prisonment of some relative; and if tho Austrian and French troops were removed, the authority of the Pope would not last an hour. The system of espionage is in full activity; men are taken out of their beds at midnight, thrown into a dungeon with the vilest criminals, where not even their persons are safe, accused by witnesses with whom they are not confronted, and defended by an ad vocate chosen by the prosecuting Government. The Pope himself is an amiable incapable—one of those men who are not equal to the emergency—enjoying the position, but lacking the power. Such is the sad condi tion of the Rome of 1852! This state cannot last, and yet there is nothing bright in the prospect. Meantime, the jealousy which the Italian cities have of each other allows no hope of a mailed Italy. The Grand Duke and Grand Duchess Constantine are expected at Rome on the 7th of next month. THE COUN TRY MARKETS. Lotienatto', APRIL 29.—The market was well attended to day. Wheat and barley were ls per qr. higher than last week, with moderate demand. Oats and beans firm at last week's rate?. DERBY SMITHFIELD MARKET, APRIL 27. Our market continues to be well supplied with fat beasts ; the number to day was about the same as that of last week, fully maintaining the same prices. The sheep pens were well tilled with sheep and lambs, which h a d rather a downward tendency. Fat and other calves plentiful; fat pigs scarce. Beef, 4id to sd ; mutton, scl to 6d ; veal, 4id to 5 d per lb ; pigs, 7s 3d to 7s 6d per score. Rough fat, 3s 6d per stone of 141bs. Hides, IV, to lid per lb; calf skins, 2d to 31d per lb. UPPINGHAM, APRIL 25.—Wheat 392. to 425; barley 255 to 27s Od ; oats 18s to 245; beans 28s to 32s per qr. Butter lid to 8d per lb ; eggs 26 for ls. LOUTH, APRIL 23.—Wheat 36s to 403; barley 25s to 28s; oats 16s to 19s; beans 26s to 30s per qr. NEWARK, Aram. 2S.—Wheat, white 45s to 475, red 40s to 42s ; barley, malting 28s to 30s, grinding 23s to 24s ; eats, 245 t., 22s to 235, 225 t., 20s to 21s; beans, 32s Od to 335; malt, 56s to 605; tares, 35s to 40s per qr. w hite _ 40s ats, 17s to to 425, superfine 44s to 00s • barley 25s to 275 ; BosToN, APRIL 28.—Wheat, red 345 to 395 Od'o, 21s; beans 29s to 3 is ; peas 25s to 27s per qr. LYNN, APRIL 27.—Wheat 32s Od to 36s Od, fine 38s to 445; barley 24s to 265, fine 2Ss to 30s ; oats 005 to 00s; beans Os to O s , fi ne O s to Os per qr. MELTON MOWBRAY, APRIL 27.—Wheat , 38s to 425; ba rley , 24s to 28s • oa ts, 185 to 225 ; beans , 288 to 33s per qr. B u tt er 9d to Od per lb ; eggs 24 for ls. EDINBURGH GRAIN MARKET, APRIL 2 8.—There was a good supply and ready sale for all kinds of grain except barley, for -which there was little demand. The top of wheat was the same as last week, and the average lld up. Barley on the top 6d, and the average 61.1 up. Oats ,on EVENING, APRIL 30, 1852. the top 6d, and the average 4d up. Beans on the top is 6d, and the average 10d up. Unsold, 96 qrs wheat, 59 qrs barley, 54 qrs oats, and 4 qrs beans. Top of Wheat 46s Od „ Barley ... .. 55 lb. 32s 6i 2 , Oats ... 440 b. 23s 6d „ Beans 66 lb. :_:6s Od EDINBURGH CATTLE MARKET, APRIL 26.—The number of cattle was F 56, or 65 more than last week. Top price, 6s 6d to Os Od; current, 6s Od; secondary and inferior, from 4s 6d to 5s Od per Dutch ' stone. A clearance was effected. The number of sheep at market this morning was 2,657, being 63S more than last week. Best wedder mutton, top price, sid per lb ; current, 5d to Od ; ewes, 4d to 4id. At the close a clearance was not effected. CORK, Arm. 26. Barrels. Currency. O White wheat OOs Od to OOs Od OOs Od-20 steno 13 Red wheat 205 Od to 20s 6d O Ditto oos Od to 00s Od OOs Cd-20 do O Ditto oos Od to 00s Od 115 Barley 12s 6d to 13s 6dl . O Ditto OO3 Od to OOs Od 00s Od—.oo do O Ditto ...00s Od to 00s Od 0 Bere 00s Od to 00s Od Os Od 134 Oats 10s 4d to lls Od O Ditto ... OOs Od to 00s Od 10s Bd-0 do O Ditto ... oos Od to 00s Od . 2 Pigs 32s Od to 00s Od - 00s Od per cwt Quantity sold at the Highest Prices:- 0 barrels white wheat; 0 red ; 7 barley; 0 bere; 5 oats; 0 pigs. Quantity of Grain and Number of Pigs sold last week ;.... Wheat, 86. Barley, 564. Oats, 1550. Pigs, 25. PRICES OF BUTTER. CANT. I cultatiNci. First quality .. 77s Second quality Third qual.ty ... 63s Fourth quality ... 46s Fifth quality Sixth quality First quality Second quality Third quality Fourth quality Fifth quality Sixth quality _ OO9 Return of Cattle sold for week ending April 24. Pigs, 267. Sheep, 347. Cows, B'l. Coax.—Flour—First 12s 6d to 13a 6d; extra 143 61; seconds, 103 6d to 1230 d; households 93 to 108 6d; thirds, 7s to 92 per cwt. Oatmeal lOs 6d to 1 ls; Indian meal7s 3d to 7s 6d; wheat meal, 9s 6d to 108 6d per cwt. Indian corn 71 be Cd to 7110 s per ton. Bran 8736 d to 90s per ton. Hay—Farmers 14e to 308; average 245; dealers 28s to 408 Od; average 34, per ton. Str aw— Farmers 9s Od to 18s Od; average 15s; dealers 00s Od to 003 Od; average 00s Od per ton. Bread—Wheaten loaf bid to 01; household loaf bid to Od per 41b. Fresh butter, 8d to 10d per lb. Eggs-4s 4d to 4s 6d per hundred. Coals— Newport 15s Od ; Lydney The ; Landore 00s ; Culm, 12s 6d per ton. Tallow 371 Od to 35a per cw! Whisky, 25 o. p., 5s 9d per imperial gallon. Mew —Beef 4id to 7d; mutton 5d to bid; veal 51 tc 7d ; pork 4d to Od ; bacon 6d to 7d ; sausages 5d per lb. Hops 818 s to 910 a per cwt. Bangor slates 2117 s 6d to 3/ Os poi ton. Bark, red 71 to 81 lOs per ton. Fleece wool 14s to 15s per stone, Hemp 29/ to 341 per ton. Fish— Scotch herrings 19s to 00s; red ditto, 24a to 00s per barrel ; Newfoundland, 10/ Os to 11/ pei ton. Timber—Memel, 70s per ton ; red pine, 31 5s ; yellor ditto, 2/ 15s per ton ; deals, 151 to 131 per 100. Hides— Market 181 to 255; salted 20s to 26s per owt ; calf skins 3id to Od per lb. Potatoes, white 8d to 9d ; pink; 100 to 12d. ...ruano— Peruvian, 101 102 to 111; Ichaboe, 8/ to 919 s per ton. Tar—Archangel, 192 par barrel.. would meet with very general support.-(Cheers.) These , In their professions of friendship, then, they were only paye questions must force themselves more and more upon the ; ing an empty compliment to the foreigner. He would not attention of the Government. Public opinion would not ! have done so. If he thought a man was a rogue or enemy suffer them to exist.-( Hear.) During the last few years ihe would have said so. lie hoped, then, the Crystal Palace, there had been very considerable reforms, and that had I as it was celled, would be removed, and the sooner the given them encouragement to go on, The Hon. Baronet the I b etter. Lord Brougham, Lord Campbell, and Mr. Justice Member for th e univer s ity o f Oxford (Sir Robert Inglis) 1 Creswell had declared that they had no more right to take had called in question th e knowledge of the Noble Lord who i possetsion of any part of the park than a M ember of that had made thi s motion, because he had called these deaneries ' House would have to take away the mace from the table. He sinecures. Now, he wanted t o k now w h a t were the duties of I certainly would not sanction the appointment of a Committee, a dean ? He had asked that question year after year, and he end he would oppose the motion. 1 could not get an answe r . H e cou ld no t di scove r either the I Lord J. MANNERS said, the Hon. and Gallant Member spiritual or ecclesiastical duties of these persons. He trusted who had j ust sat down would excuse him if on this occasion, that the Hon. Baronet would now enlighten them on that he declined to enter on the merits of the Great Eynibitione subject. He agreed with the principles enunciated in this and he had also no doubt that the Hon. Member for Mon-- Bill. He should content himself with the expression of trose would net feel offended if he did not fellow him in the opinion, and should not then enter upon the details. He review of the earlier acts of his public life, and his endea fully appreciated the spirit in which this measure had been yours to promote public education-endeavours which had brought forward, and he should be disposed to give it every been so successful, which the House knew so well-and for assistance in his power.-(Hear) Mr. SIDNEY HERBELT thought that the necessity for s which e l hi g b t l l y e e . c oiii i i n s t e r e b • j a e e t t l a w r a g s e s w i m a spry to grateful tabnedr eappreciated why the reform of ecclesiastical abuses was becoming every day the Government thought that the agreements under which snore apparent.-( Hear.) As to many of these ecclsiastical the building was erected, and under which it was to be re offices, the lapse of time had separated many of these offices moved, should be adhered to.-(Hear, hear.) The first of from the duties which originally attached to them. That these reasons was, the notorious fact that had it not beet: for had given rise to many of these abuses, and should be al- the strength, ho might also say the solemn nature of pees •' , tered. He gave his cordial thanks to the Noble Marquis for engagement, the great probability was, that the building introducing this measure, but until the Bill was before the never would have been erected at all.-(Hear, bear.) House it would be impossible to speak of the details ; but Hon. Gentlemen had been so carried away by the so far as he could gather the spirit and intentions of the great and almost unexpected success of the enterprise, Noble Lord in respect to this eubject, he would promise any they were very apt to forget the powerful obstacles which f support he could give. opposed the project at the outset. He spokein the presence of Sir HARRY VERNEY united in the feeling of gratitude a member of the Royal Commission, who knew well thenaturet so generally expressed to the Noble Marquis for the feeling and magnitude of these obstructions; and he had no hesitiv , , h and spirit in which he had brought forward this measure. tion in saying, in his presence, that if it had not been fon : • . There was one question, however, which he wished answered those solemn engagements these difficulties and obstruction s by the Right lion. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Walpole). would have been enormously, and even fatally increased. - When he alluded to the desirableness of obtaining the co- (Hear, hear.) Now, what were the terms of these engege"" e operation of the Church in these projected reforms, did he meats? He found in the royal warrant, dated the Iltu that include in that expression the laity as well as the clergy? July, that it was distinctly stated that the building wen; • Mr. WALPOLE said he bad never used the word Church tioned, and all other buildings that might be erected, and ale except as uniting in the word both clergy a nd lait y .- materials wanted for that p ur p ose, should be taken down ante (Hear, hear.) When he had said so, supposing the measure carried away by the Ist of June, 1852, and further, that the to meet the approbation of the Church, he included both, and surface of the site where it stood should be restored at the et he hoped the House would not legislate on this measure with- pence of the Commissioners to its former condition. In t h e ! out the joint co operation of the clergy and laity. deed and covenant subsequentl y entered into for carrying Mr. AGLIONBY hoped that in drawing up this Bill care out the undertaking, there was a clause by which this elle would be taken not to interfere with the rights of lessees of g a g ement was most stringently And strictly enforced , an' . Church property, and other persons, whose rights bad been the Commission was especiall y bound to remove ever regulated and guaranteed by Act of Parliament. He hoped portion of the building, and restore the surface of the par that, in carrying out a measure of this description , care before the Ist of June, 1832. Nor was that all. In the would be taken to do justice to all parties. preliminary arrangements between the Royal Conimissiole The Marquis of BLANDFORD replied. He was animated and the First Commissioner of Woods and Works it lese e with a sincere desire to render the English Church more distinc tl y sti p ulated that the Exhibition should end 011 l ' efficient ; and he should be deeply pained it he was the cause the let of November, 1851, and that immediately after. of casting any discredit upon the ministers and officers of the wards all the materials and objects comprising it sheu l oven a Church. He hoped this measure would not be regarded as a be removed; tha t the buildin g itself s h ould be taken cl: party measure - (Cheers) - and that it would be carried out and the park r est o red to its former state , to the departmene by all parties in the spirit and intention by which he was of Woods and Works seven months af ter the closing of the . himself animated. The Hon. Baronet the Member for the Exhibition. -( He ar, hear. ) S o s tr ong was the understand- ~ University of Oxford had animadverted upon his expression, ing at the time, that the building should be removed afte r • when he had said that deaneries and canonries were sine- the temporary purpose for which it was intended was s erved , , cures. When he used the word sinecure, he wished to say that the Secretary of the Royal Commission, in a letter dat ed that there were very small duties attached to them, and that the 27th of June, 1850, in reply to a proposal to introduce Way e ~. in that sense they were sinecures. For the use of the term more stringent wo rds into the contract for carr y in g out " sinecure," in reference to deaneries and canonries, he had intention , replied , o n the p art of the Commission, that it I the authority of Burn, who laid it down, that deaneries and notorious the b uildin g was to be removed after it ha canonries were sinecures, in the sense that they had no spi- served its merely temporary p ur p oses ; th at its strictly tea; ritual cures like a bishop. He hoped that what had taken porary character had be en distinctl y stated throughout, an ,''' place that night would forma period from which they would that the Commissioners hoped and believed that no diffici l date the commencement of measures useful to the. Church, would prevent them from removing it at the time app ointe and which would raise it to the moral elevation it ought to Such were the distinct engagements, and the notorious facts maintain. of the case which they were now called upon to repudiate.. The motion was then agreed to without a division. Even admitting that the retention of the Crystal Palace,l PRESERVATION OF THE CRYSTAL PALACE. its present site, might be advantageous for the object whi c l Mr. HEYWOOD presented several petitions from various the Hon. Mover hail in view, he contended that the evil . 1 i parts of the metropolis in favour of the retention of the which would result front so manifest and flagrant a lei ° '• A ' Crystal Palace. tion of public faith would overbalance any good that rnigle. t f, Mr. WILLIAMS presented a pet on from Lambeth to the result from it. Occasion might again arise on which l e , same eflhct. might be thought proper to alienate tor a short time eon' e Mr. HEYWOOD then came forward to propose his mo- other portion of the royal domains, and would the obje e c . • . , teem "for the appointment 01 a Select Committee to consider Gone that might be raised in such alienation be strengtate the preservation of the Crystal Palace, or the central portion ened or diminished, if the House were to take the coulee; • thereof, with a view to its applicability to purposes of pub- to which it was now invited? He was prepared to say that lie instruction and recreation." He regretted he was not the advantage to the working classes of retaining t i t tit , e nabled to bring the subject forwa r d a t a n earlier period of Crystal Palace in its pres en t si t e would be very sal , the session, but it had been delayed in consequence of the He grounded his opinion on two reasons. The brit et • wish of the Member for Tetnes, iu the first instance, and derived from the nature and character of the building h e ' the change of Government afterwards interfered to cause self-the second from the site which it oecupied. It eV': tee . , further delay. He had also postponed it in consequence of admitted on all hands-and no one was more readY t a r. ee i the great meeting which was proposed to be held at Exeter-admit it than he himself-that the building itself was Ai, hall upon the subject. He was now enabled to say that the mirably adapted to the purpose for which it was erecte d f;: great majority of the inhabitants of the metropolis were in A very strong a pr iori ar g ument would thence be derive't e favour of the retention of this structure. The feel- as to its permanent character. He held it to be the Me e , l o gs exhibited at the meeting at Exeter-hall might be short-sighted, and, :n the long run, extravagant policy, which o taken as a fair test of the sentiments of the middle classes, would say, "Here we have a building erected fur a partic tl ; .Se at all events. They were under great obligations to lar purpose, let us see if we cannot make it serve a perman eri e ••••• the late Government for the appointment of a object, totally different from that for which it was erected... Committee, upon which was the Noble Lord the It was admitted by all the witnesses examined last wint er ! i Member for Totnes and Sir William Cubitt. He thought who were favourable to the retention of the Cerystal Pelee; • s e t re re t f o er be tn eni adapted to ti)e to ev id an en y es per g m iv a e n n ef t pure em the best course to be adopted was to purchase it at that many and essential alterations should be necessary do et • 45,0001., a price much below its value. It had been exa• mined by Sir Joseph Paxton and Mr. Charles Fox, who 1 171 e e a i d t w e n ' o t u i f t l would t a j :a . stated that the foundations were perfectly firm, and that the given by Sir Charles Fox. In all ' s e tve t r tht° e ; i . building would require very little repair. He wished to lay question he said that, in his opinion, a new roof and a aa n eu t, .; before them the plan which had been suggested for support- floor would be essential if it were to be made a Per rn er den, t ing it. It was proposed that it should be placed in the building. If it we re t o b e conver t e d into a winter g aliens nature of a trust, composed of gentlemen in wh om thehe said that it would b e nece s sar y to make great alt er es tede public would have confidence, and of members of the Go- in the doors and galleries-the timbers of which, he sugg e e, he , • vernment. The Royal Commission could not retain it, as might be sold for a considerable sum. For the r ° B l o ald they were under a promise that it should be take n down b y advised several alterations-amon g others, that itt.ctog the Ist of June. The First Commissioner o f Woods was be newl y g lazed, which amounted prett y nearly to e e e re empowered to take it down, and sell the materials. When a new roof altogether. Mr. Dilke was anxious for t e h ough t the building was first erected, it presen ted a s p lendid a p - teution of the Cr y stal Palace in. its present site. He t i n i, or pearance. It was a new invention in architec that there must be a new roof, and that with 20,'"ee root. ture, and one of the greatest im p ro v em ents ft 30,0001. the building might be made wind and wet Paxton the benefit of science in modern time. He thought The successful designer of the building, Sir Joseph erec t a it might be applied to a green-house, and for the ex. himself, did not disguise his opinion that if asked to e e ‘ i yeate t hibition of scientific objects. If the Committee which he building for purposes similar to those proposed, le that in moved for was appointed, he wished it to he invested with erect one totally different from and better than tu rese nt full powers, and that its preservation should not be limited Hyde-park. He too was of opinion that if the P leue to its present location. The building was beautiful, nothing building was retained a new roof would be n ecessary,: per, could be more magnificent than the transept, still it might if he were to make a new one he would make a much i n all be reduced to a smaller scale, as it was too long at present more elegant, more appropriate a n d su perior building 0 to e The accommodation for riders in the park should not be respects for 25,0001. 111 r. Hawkins, in his evid ence ee me 01 I - shut out from the consideration of the Committee. lie re- the practicability of placing in the Crystal Palac c e e einen ie garded this structure as a noble monument of architectural those curious works of art for the exhibitl i e s n e skill. Many objected to it as a monument of the Exhibi- was complained that there was not room e tion, but he thought that rather in its favour, as it metropolis, stated as his decided opinion that t eeth7j:er-be question plan of applying it to the was the commencement of intercourse with foreign natione was not suited to such purposes. In answer to °ti He thought Sir Joseph Paxton so 541, he said," I cannot believe that it would purpose of a winter garden the best. He hoped the building a single sixpence in expense to make an aeaptaciet es to would be preserved in its present form, but of smaller it; in fact, 1 believe it would be as costly to do 5 sullies dimensions, and placed under the superintendence of the make an entirely new building." To quote another e e te, Government. It taught be made very useful in conveyingrity in favour of the retention of the Crystal Palace,. he it lielfre instructive and scientific subjects.- (Hear, hear.) Science Cole was of opinion that for a temporary purpose et hic.. could not be better taught elsewhere, nor specimens of be made of great use in stowing away works for beiu g scientific objects exhibited to greater advantage in any other they had not sufficient space elsewhere ; but o ee ide place. If they could keep the building, they might expec asked if it weuld be of use for permanent purposese,eiog that the crowds would not be very grean except upon par " I would not have it supposed that the present builecale ticular occasions, and therefore no inconvenience would is an appropriate place." On further inquiry, Di r e., o uld arise upon that head. This building would be most ap seemed to think that the want of accommodation that 7_ au niinidinth; .. propriate for botanical institutions. Those which were be found if the Crystal Palace were to be converted ine u eee e - s ave the c oon of .• held in gardens often occasioned disappointment, particu- exhibition of works of art would be advantageous, teeed, larly to the ladies, when the weather was wet. Such ex- much as it would arouse public attention to the tact: v f er e hibitions could not be more convenientl• held an where might induce them to erect a proper structure so m t ;_,,, than under the dome of the Crystal Palace. He wished else. So at least he (Lord J. Mann.ers) enterpreeed h t a b e t, that the subject might be fully considered by the Com- mittee. Much had been said of the point he might fairly assume that the nature and character It .„,, • such as to render most essential alter. it should be taken down. Crystal 1 slate were swer to question 612. From all tens evidence • he thong m He regretted that Sir Henry ou e converte Harclinge had not to decide it. He should be surprised had building suitable to the purposes which the Hon. Mover ee if the Noble Lord the First Commissioner of Woods was to consider . Pa d s absolutely necessary before it c . Id b d int ° ° • in view. When he came what these ase and what the were which had been rn i opposed to this motion. He was lately at Hatton Hall, in u b n l i t c bis meetings be order fei t to totally stimulate submergedth e pe Pt tecto _ e c r. ef the Noble Lord's own counter, where he met a French were , a • purposes tiler ag Marquis, who observed that the reason the aristocracy of of at England held their pesitien above that of every other in e o d b subje ct, their variet hear y .) It; had be Y an . en pt., posed to convert les Europe was, that they knew the right time to yield. He contradictory eu t e i t e p a lace would say that this was a fitting occasion to yield to the t e ‘ e va e llt i le e °l a nm r p, e that he had taken a great interest into a bale room.- Cries e u nto a might ( cry " N nf o ,” laug hter.) wishes of the people. It would be self-sustaining, and the No, no," and 0 theta entrance fee would restrain those concourses of the people • that might injure the beauty of the park by trampling the 1 grass. The present Government were under no pledge to take Teaa the speeches made out of doors in that very prole , ir J. down this structure, and, therefore, could make this conces y, the distinguished architect of the building, 'enith b u i nt this osunlbdj e a n s: t r ioasdi t b i ° a n d . ne else w ~, sion. At the meeting at Exeter-hall , a deputation had been Paxton, himself, was more delighted than any o . te a ball' appointed to wait upon the Noble Lord at the head of the Thom idea of converting the Exhibiting Building Me l e e , ' rar Government, but as they had not yet seen the Noble Lord, o, and when speaking on the subject, broke out ner e P lea' the proposition came before the House without any know- turous expression of delight when he contemplated th e to tbe ledge of the intentions of the Government. The First Com sure he should have in giving a glorious hearty dan e c ee ignede missioner of Woods had given great attention to the subject, people of Enland in the building which he had "e„ fe ce a" and he hoped ,it would receive the favourable consideration He said, "Well lit up, it would be an enchanti ng e tre neelY of the House, and concluded by moving for the Committee, night ; all the statuary and plants would show 0 11. ex idle Mr. HUME seconded the motion, and in doing s o in- well; it would be most perfect; it would becomei °to iv treated treated the Government to consider that the object which almost. I only wish you would let me have -t etro pol.4 Hon. Gentlemen had in view who desired to retain the ball in aid of the funds of the charities of the ete t 1 ..) e„ Crystal Palace was to afford instruction and recreation to You would see how I should light it."-(Lang l o ote d; we must not only also the building new-roofed a t ..110 11 ) ; the people. Over and over again he had heard it raid that not e ° i $ , the people of England could not be trusted like the people but illuminateddbaeso n ! i He repeated, then, that w statue gaper}, a garden by day, a casino by roe- - t of continental nations in any of the great public institutions, posed to , t , u ia r s n te t be b ina l d d e in a g but his answer had always been, " Trust and try them, for until you do that, you cannot offer a correct opinion upon StVohen themselves,t rk moansint was a c s l a proposedses of t e to mbeet convertedool is, o i Tito 03 q i tt o l a , covered into a drive,ba afield-room, n a °1 :1 e j : g c t a b u tf r_ ... e t e re t i t i:l: e e s i i the subject." How worthy they were of trust, the results but by no e least, it was, on the only day ° uld W e ll' . a . gallery of churches, in which persons of . _-( l e which had followed the opening of the British Museum, th National Gallery, and other institutions were quite sufficient all den ° oar ~ to show. When he (Mr. Hume) first suggested that the British Museum sh ou ld b e t h rown o p e n to the people, tions could find an appropriate place of worship:, ~, fe . that institution might be regar ded almost as a sealed ti s e a laughter.) In a very able speech ' ma r ai° 3 book, upon the average not more than 70 or 75 parties, days ago in favour of the retention of the Crystaleeteieee consisting of five or six persons each, visiting it in the it was propounded that if the building were to be ' t here, course of a week, and each of these parties being accom- it might be opened to the people on a See nd b % tri al panied by a person to see that no harm was done. But at by breaking down the rules which had hitherto ; but 0, length the building was opened without restriction to the tamed to close our public buildings and institutioneeoe"r, a lto public, and what was the consequence? why, that from condition that the Liturgy should be read in one cn r be ao t that hour down to the present not an article of all that im- every class of Dissenters in the metropolis shouldhenorteAe mense and valuable collection had been touched by the vi- appropriate place in another corner. This was . ia 0 11 ::; efi lb (3 _ 1 ; sitors. And yet, during last year only, upwards of two view of the question, and he begged Honourahl r e u e cl f,A millions and a half of persons passed throug e rooms to make up their minds whether it was to and beo e r au teti o u'a e t too the conduct In the case of the National Geller), n tof the Sunday or not. If it be shut, then hear ued _ e erie be He' d° r on t people had been most exemplary ; for since it . was thrown that they closed it upon the only day when eeu eb e open to their free admission . not a single accident bad oc- open to the working classes. If it were to be °p et nt et tie tarred to the valuable paintings collected there. Again, Sunday, they took the first step, and it was a stele", coulede during the Great Exhibition, when day after day for months might call a stride, towards introducing into "' t „ t e e C 0 ,5 together 80,000 and 90,000 people assembled in the Crystal the continental method of spending the Sunday _rep. t a j et Palace, there was not a single occasion on which the inter- not magnify too much the importance of t hat h et w eet t o r ;, , ference of the police was required to keep order amongst that said, therefore, that the site in Hyde-Parexs cee tr ineg enormous crowd. And what said Colonel Rowan with re- efficacious for benefiting the working classes of tti o ytp, he gard to the conduct of the people ? Why, that one police- and he put it to the experience of those who kne te ate s of ;eel man was now sufficient to maintain the peace in portions of of the localities and habits of the working ci f ' did ° to g the metropolis where , when he was appointed to the office suburbs of the metropolis, whether they reallY ree dre ee e of Chief Commissioner, five or six were required. With themselves of the walks and pleasure-grounds of, e t eei to otr a v eu and manners of the working classes, testimony like this , then , to the improvement in the conduct on any day except eunday ? The Hon. Member t ° of Vie on think that Parliament ere., was b oun d to re t a i n the beautiful were caged from early on Monday morning.„ee n e i d he (Mr. Hume) did had said very truly that the working population.„ te te ~„ structure at present existing in Hyde-perk.-(Hear, hear.) Saturday night. What chance had they of tolftl e etie If But, in asking this, he did not call upon the House for one through all the miles of hot, dusty streets betwee,asure? tb° farthing of the public money, A number of noblemen and the extreme west end of London in search of le e t i e eue e tn at of gentlemen had associated themselves together, who wished they were to retain the Crystal Palace, with r es e he regi ° ,i e nt to be allowed t o d o th at f or t h e pu bli c which another set of gratification of the lords and ladies inhabiting the e nce i , o fe gentlemen had been permitted to do for the Zoological and Tyburnia and Belgravia, Hyde-park would be en the Botanical Gardens in the Regent's Park.- (Hear, hear.) site: But he estimated far above the a dvanteg h e id dieciee ot to They said " give us a l ease o f e ighteen acres of land on a public place of amusement for the upper an e n n al tett eiegeers• ) which the Crystal Palace stands ; charge what rent you the necessity of providing some means of it-to the Great efforts had been made to induce the p nil' please for it, and allow us to apply the building to such pur- the hard-toiling artisans of the me tro u poi_ie e n i t he c - 11:111 • poses as we blieve we can most usefully apply o f the e wa s destruction me re- t alace on its present site and its total al he els education of artisans generally, and to the collection of works polls to believe, that between the retention t he te e of art, machinery, and manufactures; at the same time .as a d v serving ro osed to open rial departure from the t h. Whilst he toe lon to a portion of it ret a public walk." In the event of no middle course.-tlear, hear.) This w , ba . SO P . rut this request being acceded to, they then p pbeen A •ble 4 considering this question he had naturally a ccessie e iegt' on one day the week discover what site would be more er e ve- iet 4 for the admission of each person, and the building for two days in each week atthe in price of 3d. .• su n ' M one' el g h Th f i n • Con was cr., toboat altogether free of charge.- (Hear, hear.) Some of the first the working classs on half-holidays and kafford to t ue ~ capitalists of the country had undertaken to guarantee t e e iret element i such a considera i mittee, an t e transit. 11 , hat facility did Hyde-par ot , stea. eu tee , he expenses, and making suitable ad- population of the suburbs 2 The distance .. , .7' 16 aloe 35 receipts, after paying t , , . funds for carrying out the proposal of the corn . ' . d h • • vas Pe t 4r 05 d outio v 5 0 ditions to the collections, would be set apart as a reserve rrom etambetu-stairs to Battersea I . from n . . 5,, fund to increase the general efficiency of the establishment. from Blackfriars 34 minutes ; m i n ute. t po e t He begged to second the motion. 50 minutes. t he ee et Colonel SIBTHORP hoped his conduct would always be from the Thames• tunnel, rounding t ion 5 minutes ; from London -bridge 40 I vor an tions contained inside and sur . oula ieocle ' consistent with the views he had expressed of the Exhibi• hear, and a laugh)-nor would he have ti o n at the Crystal Palace. He had never entered th e immense p ro portion of the lefeetrbket3egteePno°' t he We s ite building-(Hea r, the metropu-( Hear, and Woolwich, he would as n 1 ore u l ,? ,i s ..-- enter He it if any individual had given him 1,000 guineas. Limehouse, Deptford, He would not dare to do so consistently with his sense of a classes t he Pa aseetieett duty to his fellow-subjects.- (Laughter.) Ile had ex- ful and acceptable to Prooftheweofrbnenwg great was tuestPeanyboar pressed a wish from which he did not now depart, that some -(Cheats.) As a hemight mention that oree ew last ):, e ,it visitation might have taken place which at one fell swoop would have annihilated the place, irnmediately contiguous to the k river would noe liadete eer traffic on the river, b tween London -bridge and ee - e f ee Live d , believing, as he did that it company canted was prejudicial to the best interests of the country. A Noble the new parks about w ee t noulit ee Lord had in another place spoke of the Exhibition as cer- also allude to rts of the metropolis, " tit . iced to d os' tain to promote amicable relations netween this county and in othbere money that would be regnt. six millions cf peaesengers.-( Hear, bea n ?, be 111 %t more a Ottg foreign nations, yet two different Governments had lately thatmight be t . r , th ee a r come to that House declaring that they cotild• not trust the:expended in providing attractions e ee o t to eously foreigner's professions of amicable intentions, and had de- tag sees in their oWri neighbourhovd, They Qv i g"' mended increased armaments for the defence of the comatrY• 64- - - Crystal Palace for permanency POLYTECHNIC INSTITUTION. Dr. BachhotTner commenced on Monday last a lecture on the new Polytechnic Gas Fire, and which appears to afford much entortainmont to the audience from the novelty of the subject. The chemical professor, Mr. Pepper, continues his highly interesting subject of Glynn and Appel's patent paper for the prevention of forgery and piracy by the anastatic process, which appears daily to excite more attention from the public. A sp , endid and highly interesting set of dissolving views aro daily exhibited, which are well worthy public attention and patronage, from their selection and execution, being painted by Mr. Clarke and other emi nent artists. Numerous models and works of art and manufacture abound in all parts of this greatly interest ing and highly useful establishment. THE LONDON ilosmAE.—The one hundred and twelfth anniversary festival of this excellent and useful charity was held at the London Tavern yesterday, his Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge in the chair. In proposing the toast of "Success to the London Hospital" his Royal Highness made an eloquent and forcible appeal on behalf of the institution, of which he noticed the most important features. This appeal was responded to by a subscription of 1,8001., which was collected in the room. The report stated that the number of patients admitted during the year 1851 was—in-patients, 4,051; out-patients, 17,062 ;in all, 21,113. The total number admitted since the foundation was 967,626. The income of the hospital is about 10,500/., whilst the expenditure is upwards of 12,0001., leaving a margin which has to be supplied from casual sources. During the last year 9,026 accidental cases were received, of which only 6 1-3 per cent. terminated fatally. A number of snuff-boxes, the property of his Majesty the late King of Hanover, and intended as memo rials, to be distributed among his relatives and friends, have been brought over to this country by Dr. Jelf ; and the Lords of the Treasury have given directions for their free delivery for that purpose. REWARDS BY THE GOVERNMENT.—From the de tailed account of the Civil Contingencies paid last year, the rewards paid by the Government for the apprehension and conviction of offenders, it appears that 3781. 6s. Bd. was paid. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS, April 29. ECCLESIASTICAL REFORM. (Continued from our Fourth Edition.) Lord R. GROSVENOR, in seconding the motion, said that his Noble Friend merited the thanks of every true friend of the Established Church and of religion, not only on account of the trouble which he had taken to inform him self on every point with regard to this question, but also on account of the additional labour which he had undertaken on the framing of a comprehensive measure for the considera tion of the House. And when he stated that sooner than abandon this measure his Noble Friend had refused to join the present Government, he was sure that all would appre ciate the motives by which he was actuated.—(Hear, hear.) Most of the comprehensive provisions contained in the Bill which his Noble Friend proposed to introduce had been re commended by Committees of that House which had sat on this subject; and he believed that their effect would be to render the funds of the Established Church more available for the purposes of further education and spiritual instruction at a time when the attainment of these objects was so loudly demanded on all sides. He trusted that neither the Go vernment nor the House would offer the smallest obstruction to the introduction of the Bill, and that by that means an expression of public opinion with respect to it might be ob tained. When it was publicly stated that there were 1,500,000 persons in the metropolis who did not attend any place of public worship, he thought it high time that they should entertain some measure of this nature. Mr. WALPOLE said his Noble Friend had taken such immense pains with the subject, and had made such effOrts to improve the spiritual institutions of the Established Church, that he should be ungrateful were he, on the part of the Government, to object to his obtaining leave to bring muchthe principlestrut truth. As A o s f in a Bill such as he proposed.—(Hear, hear.) He thought to in t cr e ease the erection of the arguments of the NoblecoLuolrddapnodsesreastsaehdd far as he (Mr.vyterr?fiorlaet), the Bill, they bishop rics by new sees, and in the second, to provide better they could be effected managetnent for the ecclesiastical revenues. Now in both those objects he agreed, provided with advantage to the members of the Church and the country ; and, therefore, he thought it would be better th a t the House shouldl wait until th e d eta i ls of t h e measure were before it. Ie thought it would be desirable to include also the parochial clergy in these arrangement The management of ecclesiastical property was s• a very grave subject, and it would require_i_ considerable attention before com i n g to any conclusion. Hs Noble Friend proposed to put the property in the hands of ecclesiastical commissioners. u pon that su bject be was not at present p repare d to give any definite opinion. It seemed to him to be a question turning more upon the mode in which it ought to be done, t h a n upon the propriety of doin g i t. Upon this subject he would reserve all further observations until they saw the Bill, to the int r o duction of which he w ould offer no opposi tion. (Hear.) Sir R. H. INGLIS said that be had learnt that it w t h e intention of her Majesty's Ministers to oppose the was not intro duction of the Bill, and he had come down to the House not intending to offer any observations on the subject; but he was not prepared for the speech of the Noble Lord who had introduced the motion, or the Right Hon. Gentleman the Secretary of State for the Home Department. He depre cated with all his heart the principles laid down, and when he heard the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Walpole) congra tulate the Noble Lord upon his great knowledge of the sub ject, as manifested in his speech, he could not help express ing his surprise. He would just, by way of example, and to show the great knowledge of the Noble Lord, call the atten tion of the House to one of his propositions, " Deaneries and c anonries are sinecures." He n ee d do nothing more than call attention to that proposition, by way of exemplifying the great knowledge of the Noble Marquis upon this subject. He would not offer any further remarks, but contest himself with intimating his perf ec t aversion to the mode in which the Noble Marquis intended to carry out his proposition, and his extreme regret at the course pursued by the Government. Sir BENJAMIN HALL said he would not take up the time of the House long. He should content himself simply with saying, that as he had taken an active part in reform ing soma of the abuses of the Church, he was most thankful for this Bill. He should be prepared to offer some observa tions on the broad propositions contained in this Bill when it came on for discussion in due course. lie approved of taking the whole management of this property out of the hands of the episcopal capitular bodies, and further, at pre sent, he had only to thank his Hon. Friend for bringing for ward this motion, and to reiterate that he should offer fur ther observations when the discussion took place upon the measure,—(Hear, hear.) Mr. HUME said that he was qu ite sure the Noble Mar. quis (Marquis of Blandford) stood forward as the best friend of the English Church when he proposed to put down these abuses. His Hon. Friend the Hon. Baronet (Sir Robert Inglis) near him had been consistent in supporting these abuses, but he had been Fluor the in his en deavours to suppress them. From the constant efforts of himself and others, he was happy to sayTthheat abolition e tio h n e came into Parliament the Church of England had greatly improved in many respects. of sinecures was an attempt which every friend of the Church should support. Ono of the first attempts he made in Parliament was in the line of this motion, and he was de lighted to see that thi n gs w e r e coming round in the right di rection. The people of England must look upon isit sa ti s faction. Sinecures had ceased in the civil service, the army, and in the navy, and in almost every department, and why should sinecures and pluralities be permitted amongst a body of men professing (hee to be the guides and i n structors of the people ? c placing in lay hands the management ) of propertythHeeap pr el of of the he Church.—(Hear.) Mr. COWPER said that there was a large party in this country who felt very strongly the necessity of further beenre forms in the Established Church. made on this s u bj ect, b ot h in the Greatexertions o u e and ou had of it.— (Hear.) In th e H ouse C omm i ttees h a d been appointed, and inquiries instituted on the subject, but the House had been negligent, and nothing had been done. But the time had now come when they must act in real earnest.—( Hear.) Ile approved of having the management of this Church property in lay hands, and of the introduction of this measure, which should have his support. Mr. HORSMAN said that this was one of those motions which was extremely comforting to those who had laboured to do away with these abuses. He felt happy that there ! was a feeling expressed ii the Heuer indicating that it Cel ti th