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LAW INTELLIGENCE. PREROGATIVE COURT, JrLY 11. CONDUIT V. SOANE AND OTHERS. This is a question respecting the validity of the will and of three codicils of the late Sir John Soane, the eminent architect. They are propounded by Mrs. Conduit and the other executors, and are opposed by the son of the deceased and some others, on the ground of insanity. Dr. LUSHINGTON stated that the main point for the consideration of the Court was, whether the facts pleaded in the allegation were of such a nature as to compel its admission. The allegation was 'of a most extraordinary nature. It pleaded that Mr. George Soane was the only natural son of the deceased ; that he (the son) was lon on the 27th of September, 1790. That in conse quence of the illness of his mother, he was put out to nurse with a woman named Read, who had a child about his own age, which died, and that the deceased (Sir John Soane) had entertained the insane notion that the child of the nurse had been substituted for his own off spring, and that he had, in consequence, a great aversion to Mr. George Soane. It was also pleaded that on thein tercession of a Mr. Bryant on behalf of the son the de ceased had, in an exasperated manner referred him to the 4th chapter of the Eth book of " Gil Blas" as a justifica tion of his conduct ; and that on Mr. Bryant not under- standing the application of the story the deceased wrote out the chapter alluded to, and desired it to be delivered into the hands of his son. The allegation continued to plead that the deceased had written a book, the con tents of which fully established the insanity of the deceased at the time the will was written, vi 7., on the 11th of May, 1833. Such, the Learned Advo cate stated, were the facts set forth to prove that the deceased was not of sound mind, memory, oe understand ing. Not one act of the deceased had been pleaded during the years of 1790 to 1830, when he referred to the chapter in " Gil Blas," showing why he had so treated his son. An allegation, deficient in so material a point, could not be admissible. The will was that of a man who had been at the very top of his profession. It was regularly executed ; and having given various sums, directed his exe cutors to pay a legacy of 52/. (per annum we think) to his son George. Here was a full acknowledgment of his son. The will also stated that Mr. George Soule should re ceive no further benefit, in consequence of his uniform dis obedience to the wishes and orders of the deceased, and that if any attempt was made by his son to disturb the dis tribution of the property the annuity bequeathed to him should be annulled. The Learned Advocate then referred to the other bequests mentioned in the will and codicils. They were nearly all benefiting his relations, and were per fectly rational. The allegation was, therefore inadmissible. Her Majesty's ADVOCATE, for IMr. George Scene, contended that the facts set up were sufficient to prove the insanity of the deceased. The question at present for the consideration of the Court was, whether, if they were proved, the will and codicils must be rejected on the ground of insanity ? After having gone at very great Lngth through the several articles of the allegation he sub mitted that it was admissable. Dr. ADDAMS was beard on the same side. The Learned Judge stated his intention of looking most carefully to the contents of the will and codicil, as well as to all the other papers in the case to ascertain whe ther the allegation brought all the facts fairly before the Court. If it did so, the Court at present thought that it was entitled to admission. The decision was accordingly defy rre. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. MANSION-HOUSE. Three journeymen horse-boilers, named SinWl, Blossom, and Johnson, were brought before the LOUD MAYOR charged with having caused a very great row in Fencliurch street over the body of a dead horse, which each of them claimed as his property. William Phillibrown, the servant of a market gardener named Harris, stated that he had come into London with a horse and cart and forty-five bushels of gooseberrie, and in Fenehurch-street the poor horse dropped down dead. Scarcely was the breath out of the animal's body when one of the prisoners walked up to him and eff•rod him I/. for it. That offer was follawed by the offer of =2/. from another of the prisoners ; but the word was hardly out of the mouth of the latter when the third ran up and said, " Don't sell the hanimal to either of those conies, they want to rob you, for it's worth a matter of 31., and ni tip up that amount.** Witness was so sorry about the death of a horse he drove so 'ong that he did not well know what he was about, till the whole street was in a rumbustion :with the three keackers, one of whom managed to get the body upon a cart and IV :15 doing to run away with it, while the other two were prei;ar of the paYie place is which they iatcoded to do their The LuRD MAYort—Why, at this rate, the knackers must,lika the ravens, keow by instinct where the holy The 3 tre.. - t-ke , ,,per declared that they were all bi:lding against each other before the horse was a cor t -.se. He be lieved that reople of the trade fodc;w7d a dying animal e jut as sh irks followed a sick ship, and, like those vora-ions le:id a hand if the life was still in the body. The complainant said that he had only just. run a - little way to ook for his master to tell hii.a what had ii , ippi•ned, and wh n he returned the knockers denied that he had any claim to the horse at all, and swear thi;t if he did cot cut away fom the place they would make his own flesh fit for the ba'row.—(Laughter.) Smi 11—Please you, my Lord, I see the 03S fall, and as I knrws when a 1o !y do.l't intend to vet up again, I offers the young man a matter of :20 shil!inco. Done rays 1 e, goes and gets a cart for to move him away, when u? comes another boiler's man, and as there's a lea. lousy ;Innis; the boilers, he offers 2/. for the hanimal. young man does no more but he breaks with me, and was jist g;ing for to take the other money, when up comes an oti er and says he'd stand a pound more ; but, please you, my Lard, as my offer was the first taken, an't I got the best right to the ess ? „ . The LORD MAo—Not by any means. It appears that the horse was worth at any rate three times as much as you offered, and I deny your right aitosethtT. The complainant stated that he had not accepted any of the offers, on account of the absence of his master. Blossom said that 21., the money which he had offered, was quite as much as the horse was worth, and that the bargain was regularly made when the last knacker came up, and from mere opposition (for the body was not worth the money) offered the 31. Tae claim set up by this claimant was, that his biddins mJre closely approached the real value. Johnson—Any one as says the oss ant worth 31., it's clear he'd steal him if he could. Now, I say the OS3 IS a big fat un, with a good smooth skin, and not one of these here walking hairy old trunks you'll buv in Smithfield, and I offered the walue for him. The LORD MAYOR—Why I am told you were ready with your knives before the poor animal was dead. Johnson—No, please you, my Lord, we arn't such butchers as that neither. Blossom—l'm ble s t if we are, your Lordship ; we an't the right sort to draw our knives through the witals of a poor innocent beast, that little thinks your'e going to make a jimmy of hit head ; that ere is a cruel trade. Now, we never draws blood, except to put a poor creetur out of his misery ; no, no, my Lord, we're knackers ; we a'nt butchers yet, thanks be to God.—(Laughter.) The LORD MAYOR--It is not quite clear to me that you did not intend to get the horse amongst you without paying for it at all. I should like to know how so many of those kites happened to be on the spot where the prey was ? The street-keeper said he believed that they were always on the look out in the hot weather, and that they em ployed cads who, as it were, telegraphed the fall of every horse, and thus competition took place in the public streets. The LORD MAYOR—As the street is obstructed to a certain degree by the poor animal's body, the complainant had better decide at once upon taking the largest offer, and, no doubt, his master would be satisfied. To this proposition the complainant seemed disposed to accede, and a ll th e parties left the Justice-room for th e purpose of comin g t o a n arrangement. Upon going to t he place, however, in which they had left the dead horse, they could not see anything of the kind, and were, to the surprise of all of them, informed that another owner had arrived and sold the body to another set of knackers, who seemed to be in a great hurry to remove the obstruction. MARYLEB ONE — . OVERSTRAINED POLITENESS. —Stephen Jackson, a ton sor, of the Regent's Park, who, for his extraordinary po liteness, is better known by the sobriquet of the " Chester field Chin-scraper," was on Monday charged with upset ting a gooseberry-pie from a baker's tray, whilst bowing very gracefully to a customer. George Foscutt, a youth in the employ of Mr. Hood, baker, of 2.9, Park-terrace, stated that on Saturday evenin g he was proceeding along Caroline-place, having a fine smok ing-hot gooseberry-pie in a tray on his head, when he met the defendant, who, in bending his body to salute a friend whom he met, came in contact with him (complainant) and upset the tray from his head, and the gooseberry-pie fell on the pavement, the dish breaking to atoms. He gathered up the fragments, which he here produced. The dish, with its contents, was worth four shillings and sixpence. Mr. RAWLINSON— What have you to say ? Defendant (with a low salam)_Quite an accident, I assure you. 'Pon my honomi had-not the least malice either to the emplatittatt A-a- the The fact is, I was bowing, ac cording to m , usual practice, to one of my regular custoth ers, when, confound it, I just touched the boy, and down came the tray about my cars. I have made some hundreds of bows in my life-time, but never got into such a scrape as this before. I don't wish for any altercation, and am quite agreeable to pay for the damage I have unfortunately occasioned. The defendant having done so, was in the act of bowing himself backwards out of the office, when he trod upon the gouty foot of an old gentleman, who exclaimed, in a voice of thunder, " Tread light, governor !" Lord Chesterfield, having bowed, and made an ample apology to the sufferer, immediately withdrew. EMBALMING. (From the Medical Gazette.) The Princess Charlotte was the last instance of what might be termed regular embalming, and this was con ducted under the superintendenCe of Sir Everard Home, then Sergeant Surgeon. The practice then was to place the viscera in an urn, and large incisions were at the same time made in different parts of the body and limbs to let the fluids drain off ; even the humours of the eye were removed, and every precaution adopted for drying the body as much as possible before the embalming properly so called was begun. It is difficult to imagine anything more revolting to the feelings of surviving friends than that such process mutt necessarily be, and, accordingly, the then Prince Regent, who made himself acquainted with the details, looked upon them with such repugnance, that he com manded a simpler method to be adopted with regard to the other members of the Royal Family who died during his reign. In compliance with his wishes neither George the Third nor Queen Charlotte were opened, but simply rolled in cere-cloth, in manner to be described. With respect to George the Fourth himself, after the examination of the viscera, they were replaced and surrounded by a large sup ply of an aromatic compound, long used for such purpose. This method, however, was not found to answer well, and in the case of his late Majesty, the viscera, before being replaced, were simply rolled in cloths saturated with chlo ride of lime. The post mortem examination having been completed, the royal body is carefully rolled in bandages of cere-cloth, so as to involve the whole of the limbs and trunk separately ; a covering being afterwards applied over the head, and also secured by rollers of the same material. After this, two separate complete coverings of cere-cloth are put on. so as to include the limbs, trunk and head, and the edges throughout are made to adhere by the application of a heated iron. The body is next covered with white silk, and is lastly clothed in royal purple, tied with white rib bands. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS, JULY 11. The SPEAKER took the Chair shortly after Three o'clock. Mr. Crafer presented papers from the Treasury. On the motion of Captain ALS AGER, Acton's Natu ralization Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed to-morrow. COLONIAL ACCOUNT COMMITTEE. Dr. BOWRING moved that the evidence taken before the Colonial Account Committee should be laid on the table. His sole object in doing so was, that the evidence which had already been taken before the Committee, which was exceedingly valuable, should not be lost in consequence of there not being a sufficient number of members latterly in attendance to form a quorum. The SPEAKER. said that the motion of the Hon. Member would have the effect of making the House do that which it was the province of the Committee to do. Mr. P. THOMSON thought that the better course for the Hon. Member for Kilmarnock would be to move that three Members should constitute a quorum. Dr. BOWRING was afraid that such a motion would be attended with no effect. The number of Hon. Members in town were so few, that several Committees had met that morning, and had been obliged to adjourn, in consequence of their not being a sufficient number of Mem bers in attendance. The LORD ADVOCATE thought it was a question well worthy the consideration of the House, whether a sufficient number of Members ought not to be added to the Committee, to form a quorum. Lord HOW ICK thought that the batter way wculd be that the Committee shoulcl have leave to report. After a few observations from Mr. P. THONISON, Dr. BOWRI NG adopted the suggestion of 10 Noble Lord (Howick), and moved that the Committee should have leave to report. NEW POOR LAW ACT. Mr. WALTER presented a petition from the parish of All Saints, Poplar, complaining of the introduction of the New Poor Law Act into that parish, as there was at pre sent a parochial law existing that regulated it. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL presented a petition from Edinburgh for the better observance of the Lord's Day, and a petition from the same place against the system of slavery carried on under the name of apprenticeship in the West Indies. Col. JONES presented a petition from the diocese of Armagh, signed by 20,000 persons, praying for a revision of the plan of national education in Ireland. Mr. BROTHERTON presented eleven petitions from various towns in Lancashire, praying for a Ttn Hems' Factory Bill. Dr. BOWRING then moved that certain names le added to the Colonial Account Committee. Lord HO WICK said it would be better to give a no tice for to-morrow. Dr. BOWRING—That will defeat the object I hale in view, as I leave town to-morrow.—(A laugh.) Mr. HUME then gave notice of a motion to that effect for to-morrow. Mr. P. THOMSON postponed the Order of the Day for the House agreeing to the report of the Committee on Standing Orders till to-morrow. Lord SANDON begged to ask the Right Hon. Gen tleman, the President of the Board of Trade, whether he could lay upon the table of the House an account of the expenses attending the taking out of Letters Patent under the new Bill ? Mr. P. THOMSON regretted that no account of the expense had been prepared. On the motion of Lord JOHN RUSSELL the Lords' Justices Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed to-morrow. On tile motion of Lord JOHN RUSSELL, the Acts of Parliament Reference Bill went through Committee ; as did also the Conveyance of Buildings and Lands Bill. The Bills were ordered to be read a third time to morrow. Mr. VERNON SMITH brought up the Report of the Church Building Commission Bill. Mr. P. THOMSON brought up papers by her Ma jesty's command, which were laid on the table. Dr. BOWRING postponed his motion for Copies of the tariffs of various countries till next Session as he un derstood it would lead to soma discussion. In the mean time he trusted the President of the Board of Trade would give the matter his attention, as it was one of much importance. Tile Hon. Member also postponed the introduction of his Bill for the repeal of the Navigation Act. Mr. HAW KES gave notice that next Session he would move for leave to brin g in a Bill for the protection of the manufacturers of hardware, Irish linen, gloves, &c. against foreign importation of those articles, with a view of afford in employment to our own native artizans. The House then adjourned. The aromatics used are different balsamic herbs—such as lavender, marjoram, orris-root, myrrh, cloves, and va rious others ; while to the finer kind, used for the internal parts, an addition of musk is made. The " sweets" are mixed with a certain proportion of bran ; a layer of this is laid on the bottom of the coffin ; the body is then placed in it, and every part completely filled with the compound. Such is the modern practice in regard to the Royal corpse, but it is in several respects defective, and seems to fail in arresting the common doom of humanity—" dust thou art, and unto dust thou shalt return." Nay, it is even ques tionable whether the large quantity of vegetable matter employed may not rather hurry on the progress of decay, by promoting fermentation ; certain it is that on a late occa sion the coffin burst before the funeral from the expansive power of the gases generated within it ; and in a still more recent instance the bulging of its sides gave timely notice of a similar danger, which has only been averted by boring a hole through the coffin to act as a safety-valve. ROSCREA, JULY 2.—As barbarous and shocking a reorder as has been placed on record was committed on Wednesday night last, on the lands of Earlswood, in the parish of Kyle, in the Quern's County, within about four miles of this town. The unfortunate victim was a female of the name of Art, who resided alone with her infant child in a hut on the skirts of a bay, at the above-named place. Her eyes were forced out of their sockets; both her arms and legs were broken to pieces ; and her body dragged and thrown into a corn field, where it was found next day. '1 be only reasons I heard assigned for so shocking a murder were, that the unfor tunate creature being seduced by a man, under promise of mar riage, by whom she had a child, hearing of his being about to get married to another, went and forbid the banns. The other reason assigned was, that she being an eye-witness to the murder cf the two Delaney* (as reported in a former number of vow paper). sod likely to give information to the authori ties, it was deemed proper to " put her cut of the way." A person for the murder of the Delaneys was arrested, through the active exertions of the police of this town, yesterday, and transmitted to Borris-in-Ossory AN " AFFAIR OF HONOUR" SPOILED--A few days ego, as police constable Perkins, of the V division of po lice, was on duty in Battersea fields, he observed a hacki,ev cabriolet drive towards him at a rapid rate, and at a short dis tance it stopped, and two gentlemen, fashionably dressed, alighted from it, and three other gentlemen soon afterwards came up and joined them, and they all then proceeded ton ards a retired spot at the 7ack of the Red Hetose enclusure. The policeman, having eurue suspicion of their intention, asked the cab man whether he knew what the gentlemen were going to do, and lie replied that he believed they were going to tun a race. The constable, however, was induced to v:atelotheir movements, and followed them cautiously to a place from .hence he could observe all their proceedintese He then szor one of the gentlemen pacing the ground, and aneth:r gentle man teek his stand wi:h a pistol in his hand. The policeman immediately went up and took away the pistol, and as lie was doing so it went off. The others then came up and told the policeman he had better take care or he would be shot. The constable then said that he must request them to give him the other pistol, sa',ich they did. He then sail it would Le necessary for them to accompany bin to Waedsworth, to give some explanation of their conduct. After some demur, the gentlemen consented to this arrange ment and proceeded with the constable to the office of Mr. Fletcher, the clerk of the magistrates, at Waolswortli. Mr. Bainbridge, one of the rnegistrates, shortly after a: rived, and the gentlemen we.e introduced. They gave their names Leicester Phipps, John Arthur Yung, Kenelm Milner, Henry Augustus Biederman, and I - leery ‘Vehber. The col:- stable was then sworn, and he deposed to the facts contained in the above statement, and produced the pistols he had tale., n from the parties. They were regular duelling pistols. The Magistrate then questioned the gentlemen, with a view to as certain who were the principals, and that-the others were only there in the capacity of surgeon and seconds, respectively. They added, that they had adjusted their differences, and that no intention existed on their part to commit a breach of the peace. The magistrate said, that unless he was perfectly assured of this fact it would be his duty to hold them to bail ; but if they would pledge him their word of honour to that effect, lie should be satisfied. This, the gentlemen agreed to de, and, in addittion, Messrs. Webber and Bie derman entered into their own recognizances, and the parties then retired. An ill-fated cat fell into the hands of some young ruffi ink, who commenced the first stage of cruelty, which often leads to greater crimes and to an ignominious end; the little wretches had passed from cruelty to cruelty, alternately ston ing their victim, and dragging it through a dirty pool of wa ter, then heating and bruising it, and menacing it with drown. ing. Bipeds passed by, unheeding the animal's cries of dis trecs, which were now nearly coming to a close with its life, when a feeling quadruped came forward to save it. A dog, having contemplated for some time this scene of inhumanity, and barked his disapprobation thereof, rushed forward on the young assassins, and driving them, one by one, furiously off the spot, sprang to the rescue of the fainting and bleeding ani mal, and, withdrawing it from the deep ditch, bore it off in triumph to his quarters. There, extending it upon the straw, and licking it all over, he recalled the vital spark. and then, lay ing himself down upon it, restored it to some degree of ease, from the warmth imparted to it. After this, the kind and feel ing dog fetched provisions to his sick charge, and the people of the house, inspired by the example of the minor animal, gave it warm milk. Day after day did the dog tend the sick object of his care until it was perfectly recovered, and they are both to be seen at this day after a long lapse of years at the Talbot Inn, Liverpool..--Sporting Magazine. THE LORD MAYOR'S SPlT.—Among the other good things prepared by the Marquis of Camden for the fes tivities of Bayham Abbey, in honour of the Earl of Breck nock's coming of age, in 1820, was an immense baron of beef, so ample in its dimensions that no spit could be found in the kitchen of the Noble Marquis large enough to roast it upon. Many other noble houses, both in town and country, were ap plied to for this necessary instrument, but without success ; and the idea of roasting it whole was about to be abandoned, when, as a last resource, the Lord Mayor was applied to, and (to the honour of City hospitality be it spoken) his Lord ship's spit was large enough, and to spare. This said baron of beef was served up to the table with much pomp. The dinner trumpet having summoned the Noble host and hostess, with their numerous guests, to the banqueting room, the sound of music was heard in a distant part of the mansion. On a sudden the folding doors of the apart ment were thrown open, and a procession was seen advancing along the spacious hall, in all the pride, pomp, and circum stances of glorious—cookery. In the van appeared a full band of music, playing the comfortable air yclept " Oh 1 the Roast Beef of Old England." Then followed the capacious cook major, clad from top to toe in purest white, and bearing aloft a mass ive silver vase, filled with the most pungent mustard. Then came the majestic baron itself, in all its substantiality ; the gigantic silver dish on which it reposed amidst an ocean of gravy, borne on a kind of litter, on the shoulders of four do mestics in liveries, and flanked on either side by an assistant cook (snow-white, in costume like the T he he major), and each bran dishing a h uge carving-knife and fo rear was brought been nd up by t roops o f d omes tics, with the less importantl havingviand s ; a in this s t ate t h ey approac h e d the table , where all set forth in due order, the cook-major and his fellows remained to do the honours of the beef, with all the ceremony such a weighty business required. William Day, a youth of 17, a servant in the em ploy of Mr. John Sellars, of Sutterton, has been fully com mitted for trial, on the charge of committing a capital offence on that gentleman's daughter, a child of six years of age.— Lincolnshire Chronicle. THE WEATHER.—The long-continued heats have dried up the ground to a degree scarcely credible. In many parts of Hyde Park there are rents upwards of an inch wide, caused by the excessive drought. Within the last four or five days, the grass in the fields near the metropolis has assumed a parched appearance such as is rarely witnessed in this country. The market gardeners complain loudly of the loss they are likely to sustain should rain be much longer delayed. THE SUN, LONDON', WEDNESDAY, JULY 12, 1837. HOUSE OF LORDS, Jtrzr 11. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his scat on the Wolsack at Five o'clock. Lord PORTMAN brought up the report on the Bath Gas Bill. MESSAGE FROM THE QUEEN DOWAGER. Tie iqurquis of LANSDOWNE said that he and the drputation appointed to wait on the Queen Dowager with their Lordships' Address bad waited• on her Majesty, and had received the following answer :-- "My Lords,—l thank you most sincerely for your Message of Condolence, and for the deep sympathy yclz express on the afflicting, loss I have sustained. It shall be my anxious study to merit the respect and affection of the British nation, and I shall endeavour to prove my gratitude for this touching mark of your affection for the wid:)w of your late excellent Sovereign." The Noble Lord concluded by moving that the answer be inserted on the journals,—Agreed to. PUNISHMENT OF DEATH BILL. Lord DEN MAN moved that the House go into Com mittee on this BR He said that ho did not think it would have the effect of increasing crime, but rather of diminish ing its extent considerably. Lord WYNFORD believed that this would be a most dangerous alt ration of the law, and it was one he was de cidedly opposed to. The Noble Lord concluded by moving, as an amendment, that the Bill should be committed that day three months. _ _ The Earl of DEVON said that although the Bill had been introduced at a late period of the Session, as the prin cipal legal authorities of the country, after consideration, thought it a wise and judicious measure, he should give it his support. After a few further observations from Lord WYN FOR D the House resolved itself into a Committee on the Bill. Lord ELLENBOROUGH thought that setting fire to any of her Majesty's men-of-war ought to be considered a capital crime, and should be punished with death. Lord COLCHESTER thought the seduction of any person on board her Majesty's ships to commit a crime was a greater crime than the committal of the offence itself. Lord DENMAN said that great difficulty existed in proving the seduction. If any Noble-Lord thought there was any doubt as to the construction of the Act as it was now proposed, it was competent for him on the third read ing to introduce a clause to correct any errors that existed. Lord BROUGHAM said the repeal of the Acts in question would not alter the law as supposed, for they only contemplated the act of seducing a soldier to commit mutiny whore the crime had not been completed. _ Lord WYNFORD wished that the punishment of death should be preserved ; also in smuggling cases, where the parties were guilty of firing on any of his Alajesty's ships, thereby endangering the lives of twenty or thirty men ; or where they beat the officer, almost to the de privation of life. After some further conversation, and the introduction of several amendments, the Bill passed through the Commit tee, the House resumed, and the report was ordered to be received to-morrow. PARLIAMENTARY ELECTIONS BILL. The Duke of WELLINGTON wished to know when the Noble Viscount opposite intended to move the further proceeding with the Parliamentary Elections Bill. Viscount DUNCANNON said it was his intention to do so to-morrow. The Duke of WELLINGTON submitted to the No ble Viscount the expediency of postponing the proceedinc , beyond to-morrow, as Wednesday was not a day on which it was usual to bring on business of any importance, with reference to the convenience either of the Queen's Mini sters or of other persons. Viscount DUNCANNON then fixed Thursday for proceeding with the Bill. IMPRISONMENT FOR DEBT BILL. Lord LYNDHURST observed that he had recently presented to their Lordships a petition on the subject of the Imprisonment for Debt Bill. He was desirous of know ing whether or not his Noble and Learned Friend intended to proceed with the measure in the present Session of Par liament. The LORD CHANCELLOR said that he had him self been very anxious on the subject, and had watched the progress of this important measure both during the present and during th e l ast sess i on. I t h a d certa i n ly b een a l ong time in the House of Commons in the present session. But the delay was not the fault of those who had the ma nagement of the Bill in the other House of Parliament. It was attributable solely t o th e pressure o f pu bli c b us i ness , which from time to time rendered the postponement of this Bill a matter of necessity. He a d m i tte d t h at i t wou ld no t be easy to deal with such a measure in their Lordships' House in the short period during which Parliament would in all probability sit, unless no opposition were made to the principle of the Bill, and unless there was aprospoet that its details would be agreed to wi tho u t much discussion. He had been anxious to ascertain the probabilities on these points, and the result of his inquiries was, that although it did not appear that there was much difference among their Lordships respecting the principle of the Bill, it was likely that the details would occasion so protracted a discussion that he had felt it to be inexpedient to attempt to proceed with the Bill in the present Session under circumstances which rendered it hopeless that it would receive the attention which its importance deserved. For these reasons he had not proposed any day for the second reading of the Bill. He would take an opportunity, however, at the earliest period of the next session to call their Lordships' attention to the subject, being perfectly convinced of its importance, and that it was not only essential to the interests of the creditors themselves, but to the interests of all parties, that the question should be settled, as he trusted that in the next session it would be. The Marquis of L ANSDOWNE, while he perfectly concurred in the propriety of the course adopted by his Noble and Learned Friend, of withdrawing this Bill in the present session, wished it to be most distinctly understood that it was so withdrawn, not from the slightest hesitation as to the importance of the Bill, nor from the slightest doubt that it was the duty, as it was the feeling of Govern ment and Parliament to pass such a measure, but from the quantity of detail in the Bill, and the difficulty, or rather impossibility, of doing justice to that detail in the short pe riod which would intervene between the present moment and the end of the session. He hoped, however, that the principle of the Bill would find the same favour in that as it had found in the other House of Parliament, and he joined with his Noble and Learned Friend in the hope that in the next session the great object of passing such a measure would be accomplished. Lord BROUGHAM entirely agreed with his Noble and Learned Friend and with his Noble Friend in lament ing the impos:ibillity of passing the Bill in the present Ses sion of Parliament. Its postponement for the present could not be objected to ; but he hoped that bringing the subject forward at the earliest period of the next Session was not the only security that would be afforded for its passing. A further security must be afforded, unless the business in both Houses of Parliament were conducted in a much bet. ter manner than it bad recently been. That farther secu rity was, bringing the Bill in the first instance into the House of Lords. If that course had been pursued in the present Session, his firm belief was, that the Bill would at that moment have been the law of the land. The present Bill, nay, a Bill much larger than the present Bill, was passed by the other House in the Session before the last. There was every reason, therefore, to believe that if the Bill received the sanction of their Lordships it would not be long delayed in its passage through the other House of Parliament. He threw out no blame whatever o❑ any one. He only regretted the course which had been adopted. He might have done the very same thing, and it was but com mon candour to acknowledge that it was much easier to judge of any course of conduct after the event than before it. EXCHEQUER BILLS BILL. The Exchequer Bills Bill was read a third time and passed. ASSESSED TAXES BILL. The Assessed Taxes Bill was read a third time and passed. BEET-ROOT SUGAR DUTY BILL. Viscount DU NCANNON moved the second reading of the Beet-root Sugar Duty Bill. The Marquis of DO WNS HIRE was desirous that the Bill should be postponed until the next Session of Parlia ment. It had been passed through the other House with great haste. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE trusted the Noble Marquis would not oppose the Bill, because if it were not passed, a revenue of not less than four millions sterling would be placed in jeopardy. All the Government had in view was to put beet-root sugar on the same looting with colonial sugar. Complaints bad been made that the growers of beet-root had not had sufficient notice of the intentions of the Government ; but he did not see that they had any reason to complain on that account. If he recol lected rightly the growers of tobacco had not had so early notice as had been given in this instance to the growers of beet-root. The Marquis of SALISBURY said it appeared strange that while constant complaints were made of the want of employment in Ireland, and when one means was found for remedying a part of the evil, obstacles should be thrown in the way of it by the Legislature. Besides, the excise regu lations were such thst the malufacturers of sugar from beet root would not be able to raise it at a remunerating price, even without duty. . The B:11 was then read a second time. The Marquis of D W I. 4 .;SHIRE pres2nted a petition from a Mr. Bradshaw, in Downshire, against the Bill. CONDUCT OF THE IRISH GOVERNMENT. The Marquis of WESTM EATH, in rising to move for copies of the correspondence of which he had given notice, said the Noble Earl opposite (Earl Mulgrave) had com plained on a former evening, of not having received due no tice of the questions to be put to him. He could not, however, urge the same reasons that evening, as since Mon day sc'nnight sufficient time had been given to send over to Dublin and procure what papers he might judge necessary. Towards the close of last session he had intended to bring the transactions of which he was about to complain before their Lordships, but had been prevented. As the Noble Rid, however, had thrown out a sort of challenge the other night and had offered to meet any one who would impugn his Administration in Ireland, he had thought proper to take up the question, and the more so as be had been one of those who had signed the petition agreed to at the Protestant meeting over which the Noble Marquis had presided. In entering on the subject he disclaimed all party feelings, while at the same time he declared himself a most uncompromising opponent to the Noble Earl as re garded his government in Ireland, and chiefly on the ground Om he did not wish to see a great proportion of the Irish people involved in the agitation which was now going on in that country. Many of the inhabitants of Ireland felt deeply wounded by the conduct of the Noble Earl, who disdaining to be guided by the example of his predeces sors, rather busied himself in seeking out the imaginary grievances of a particular party, in order to obtain a cha racter fur mitigating and redressing evils which did not ex ist ; and at the same time, in making experiments on the peace, security, and comfort of the people of that country. For his part, he was as much disposed as any man to pay every respect to the representative of the Sovereign. and he would be as ready as any one to pay respect to the Noble Earl in that capacity ; but knowing what had passed, he felt convinced that it would be nothing less than contaminating himself if he entered the Castle of Dublin until it was purged of its contamination by the exit of a prominent character from that place.—(A laugh.) Did the Noble Earl laugh ? He might laugh, but let him recollect that Ise introduced into the Castle a man who had been convicted of a serious offence against the law, though he had never been punished for it. Let him recollect that he had introduced into the Castle a man who had reviled members of the family of the Sove reign. Let him recollect that he had introduced a man who, expert as he was at chicanery, had invented a system for frittering away three-fourths of the provisions of the boasted Reform Bill by means of fraud and perjury. —(A laugh.) Was the Noble Earl still amused by the recital ? But could he deny the fact ? He could not deny it ; and he would tell the Noble Earl that while the head of that man whom he had thus introduced into the Castle—while the head of that man was on his shoulders, all the persons who had suffered for similar crimes in 1798 were murdered. —(Laughter.) He would not, however, be deterred by these symptoms, and he would call again upon the Noble Earl to recollect that he had introduced into the Castle a man who had inculcated a qualified obedience to the Sove reign, and within a few days had issued a manifesto contain ing a conditional allegiance till measures should be carried which he had recommended, and which had been introduced at his dictation, and which but for the inflexibility of their Lordships' House would have by this time become the law of the land. He would now proceed to the specific motion of which he had given notice. Towards the close of the Government of the Marquis of Anglesea, Sir Richard Nagle took the chair at a tithe meeting in West meath. The resolutions agreed .to at that meeting at tracted the attention of the Government, and in conse quence of that the Marquis of Anglesea asked him, as Lord-Lieutenant of the county, to endeavour to find out the reasons for Sir Richard Nagle taking the chair. The Lord Chancellor also required of him the same duty ; and in obedience to these instructions he forwarded to the Go vernment the reasons assigned for the proceedings. Incon sequence of that communication, the Marquis of Anglesea did not think he would be justified in allowing Sir Richard Nagle to hold a commission in the peace, and he (Lord Westmeath) was directed to take the usual steps for remov ing him from the commission. That accordingly was done, and then the agitation party came forward and got up reso lutions setting forth that he was well qualified to represent them in Parliament. In consequence he became a member of Parliament and remained so till the close of last Session. About that time he (the Marquis of Westmeath) received a letter from Mr. Drummond, requesting to know if there were any reasons why Sir Richard Nagle should not be reinstated in the commission of the peace. In answer to that he stated that he thought the original cause of Sir Richard Nagle's removal ought to continue to ope rate on the Government, and that he saw no reason for his being restored. -On that very day he heard by accident that the Lord Chancellor had restored him to the commission, and that he considered only a prelimi nary for appointing him again to the depute),Lieute nancy.te- nancy. In attending to the instr uctions of th Mrquis He considered of Anglesea, he had only done his duty. he was bound to obey, and Sir Richard Nagle was re . moved ; l;rt z , .- vet he could see no reason for re.tnrryz him, except the fact that matters were no longer the same, and that be bad giveu his support to the Goverment in the House of Commons. Now, looking at the usual practice, Was he to write for information upon the numerous topics and to that even adopted by the Noble Viscount (Mel- to which the Noble Marquis had referred? Was he now bourne) when he was Home Secretary, he must say that to eoe called upon to reply to them without the slightest the treatment towards him had been most uncourteous ; notice being g iven to him—without the least intimation that but he put himself out of the question, and asked what they were to b e alluded to—without the possibility of re effect it was calculated to have on the people of Ireland ? ferring to various papers connected with them ? And was He felt some interest to know the reasons of the Noble he to be called upon to do this because the Noble Marquis Earl for such conduct, and should not wonder if the Nob l e had thought proper, in moving for a correspondence upon two Earl was not able to justify it. The Noble Marquis then particular points, to enter into the many subjects he had complained of the appointment of Mr. Sheil to a commis- alluded to,and because the Noble Lord upon such an occa sion in the peace in opposition to his wishes ; and adverted sion had delivered one of the most unparalleled pieces of to the appointments of Mr. Cassidy and Colonel Butler, oratory that he believed had ever been addressed to that all the circumstances connected with which had been re- House ?—(Cheers and laughter.) One part of the Noble peatedly brought before the public. The Noble Marquis Marquis's obsen'ations was addressed to the proceedings of then proceeded to canvass the propriety of the pardons the Carlow Committee, into the nature of which he should extended by the Lord Lieutenant to offenders of all deno- not enter ; the Noble Marquis had even quoted something minations in Ireland. Amongst others he mentioned the from the proceedings of that Committee. Now, what con case of one Patrick Kitty, of Limerick, who was con- section had he with the Carlow Committee ?—(Hear, hear.) victed of murder, and whom his Excellency had liberated Surely their Lordships might well ask, how could he pos without bail. So eager was the Lord Lieutenant in this sibly conceive that such a topic could be introduced upon headlong course of forgiveness, that he pardoned three per such a motion ?—(Hear.) But then the Noble Marquis had sons charged with keeping brothels. In all cases of par- alluded to many other topics, and he should now, as far as Boning it was understood that the parties gave assurance he could do so without the documents, apply himself to those that they would never offend again. He supposed, of topics, and give the best explanation that, under the circum course, this precaution was taken on the present occasion. stances, it was in his power to give. He should first allude From the hulks and depots it appeared that the Lord to what the Noble Lord had said of his return to the Govern- Lieutenant had released 34, with cause assigned ; and 11 maul of Ireland ; and without troubling himself very much from the hulk Essex, stationed in Dublin, without cause. as to the anxiety the Noble Marquis seemed to labour un- Of these one was under sentence of death, two of trans- der as to his returning to Ireland, he should only say that it portation for life, and eight of transportation for seven was one consolation to him, under the direful denunciation years. He thought the enumeration of the Lord Lieute- pronounced against him by the Noble Marquis, that he had nant's pardons formed such a catalogue of misgovernment combined his presence in Ireland with the representation of as that if, in the face of it, her Majesty's Ministers were the people there.—(Cheers.) The Noble Marquis seemed to to send him back to govern Ireland, they would be tam- labour under a great apprehension of the representation of pering, with the peace and good government and good opi- the Irish people ; and he even had declared that he wished nion of every non-party man in that country. He should to G o d t h at t h ey cou ld ge t rid of representation in that trespass now for a very few minutes whilst he referred to country.—(Hear, hear, hear.) In such company as the the appointment of the Sheriffs, which formed one of the Noble Marquis had been pleased to place to him he could most serious and important features in the misgovernment assure the Noble Lord that he was happy to be the object of the Noble Earl. The Noble Marquis then enumerated of his censure.—(Cheers.) There was one portion of the the cases of the county of Westmeath, where two Prete, documents which the Noble Marquis had moved for that tent gentlemen who were willing to serve and were on the he could more appropriately have called for at another time lists were passed over, and a gentleman appointed who was beyond the present : he could have called for them in the not on the list, and was a Catholic ;of the county of presence of his Noble and Learned Friend (Lord Plunket), Clare, where the Lord Lieutenant had passed over three who had been there for a considerable portion of the early gentlemen who were on the list, and appointed a fourth part of the session, and who would have been most ready who was not on the list ; and, lastly, of Carlow, where to have given him an answer as to the whole of that which his Excellency had passed over two names who were regarded the case of Mr. Sheil. He should not trespass on the list, and appointed Mr. Keogh, who was not upon their Lordships with that, although he could go into on the list. In connection with the latter appointment the whole of the case of Mr. Sheil. Then as to the case the Noble Marquis then proceeded to advert to the results of Mr. Cassidy, he must say that the Noble Marquis had which took place in the election proceedings of Carlow. gone into some gossip, in his opinion (what was very un- Mr. Keogh, upon being appointed sheriff, applied to the At- worthy of him), as to some conversation that Mr. Cassidy torney:General for Ireland to recommend him a person as had at one time with the Noble Lord himself as to Mr. assessor, and he recommended Mr. Welch, a member of O'Connell.—( Hear, hear.) In these, as in all other cases, the Association in Dublin, and, moreover, what was familiarly he rested with the most perfect confidence upon the judg called the Attorney-General's " Devil." This gentleman was menteand discretion of his Noble and Learned Friend, and appointed, and what took place in consequence exhibited such especially when he decided that cases were made out for a system of unfair dealing and improper interference in elee- interfering, without the consent of the lieutenants of tion matters in Ireland as made him (the Marquis of West- counties, in the appointment of magistrates worthy of the meath), for one, wish rather that they had no Irish repre- popular c onfidence.—(Hear, hear, from Lord Roden.) He sentatives at all in Parliament, and were entirely at the dis- avowed, and he was prepared to defend, the establishment of posel and under the protection of the English Parliament, a Government enjoying the popular confidence in the due than have the sort of representation which they now had. and proper a dministration of the laws.—( Cheers.) The Noble (Hear, hear, from Lord Holland.) In the election corn- Lord had, however, made a charge against him the ac mittee of 1835 thirty-six votes were ordered to be erased. curacy of which he disclaimed. The Noble Marquis At the election which ensued two of these persons presented stated that he had set himself up in opposition to all former themselves to vote, and objections having been made to Viceroys. He disclaimed that he had, upon any occasion, them what did the assessor do ? Why, he allowed them to ever done so ; he disclaimed that he had upon that, or any take the oath, and alter the wording of it for the occasion to other occasion, done so ; on the contrary, he had upon most suit their particular cases, and then admitted them to vote, occasions acted in that very way which he believed would ,which they did in favour of the Liberal candidate. The Noble have been adopted by either of his two Noble Friends who Marquis, after mentioning one or two other similar cases of had held the government of that country for a long time, favouritism toward the Liberal voters, proceeded to con- with such advantage to it, and with such credit to them trast this conduct of the assessor with what he did in re- selves.—(Hear, hear.) As to Sir Richard Nagle, he had spect of two other voters on the other side who presented to say this, that the best proof of the propriety of the themselves to give their vote. Their vote was objected to time which had been adopted with regard to that gentle because they were described of a wrong barony in the list. man was, that the present Lord Chancellor cf In land who How did the assessor act ? Did he allow them to make sanctioned his restoration was the Lord Chancellor of Ire good their claim, and rectify the error by the usual oath or land at that very time when, under the circumstances, he declaration before voting ? No. He allowed them to re- thought that it was a good step to take to have him gister their vote in the first instance, and afterwards it was removed from the Deputy- Lieutenancy of the county, and discovered that their votes were invalid, when it was too also from the commission of the peace. But why did the late for them to take the affidavit, which they might have Noble Marquis now bring this matter forward thirteen done before. The Noble Marquis then referred to the months after the thing had passed? He did not ex state of the grand-jury list after the appointment of Sheriff actly recollect the terms of the letter written upon the oc- Keogh. Before that gentleman's appointment there had casion ; but, as far as he could remember it, he believed the been 3°5 Protestants and 295 Catholics on the panel ; the terms of the letter to the Noble Marquis were nearly after it there were only ten Protestants on the panel. The these—that it was expedient that Sir It. Nagle should be consequence of this state of things was that it was very dif• restored to the Commission of the Peace, and also to fieult, if not impossible, to obtain the conviction of persons the Deputy-Lieutenancy. As to Sir Richard Nagle for certain offences, and acquittals took place, in spite of himself, every one who knew him must be convinced evidence, which excited the astonishment of the bench. All that there could net he a more valuable character ; o ne these considerations inspired him with the most painful ap- who was beloved and respected by all who knew him, prchensions for the safety of life and property if the Noble and one, too, of the best of magistrates in his neigh- Earl returned to the government of Ireland. In making hourhood.—(Hear, hear.) The cause of the removal of the remarks which he had done he begged to observe that Sir Richard Nagle was, that. he had attended an anti he had no other motives in view than the peaceful govern- tithe meeting. Upon that occasion Sir Richard N a gle merit and welfare of the country, to his residence in which had taken the chair ; there was no political expressioa he would shortly have to return. of his upon the subject beyond this ; but he was re- The Noble Marquis was sitting down, when moved from the commission of the peace for having Lord BROUG 11 AM exclaimed " Read the motion ; a presided at the meeting. It was to be remembered that vote of censure, of course !" Sir Richard Nagle, was not at that time the member The Marquis of WESTMEATH (rising)—The Noble for the county, and no other opportunity had been el and Learned Lord having called me up again— finded to him of explaining his political conduct. S:r Lord BROUGHAM—Oh, no! Heaven defend that I Richard Nagle had, however, since that time an oppor should !—( A laugh.) tunity of testifying what his political conduct was with re- Lord HOLL AN D said that the Noble Marquis hat- gird to the question of tithes ; and he had shown it i n his ing made a very long speech, it was but right that, in ac- readiness to accede to that arrangement which had been cordance with the customs of the House, he should con- sanctioned by a majority of the House of Commons. Not elude with a motion. only had Sir Richard Nagle done this, but he had also Lord BROUG II AM said that was all he wanted ; done something more. Some men changed their opi and he must certainly add, that after the charge which nions, others only changed the mode of expressing them. had been advanced by the Noble Marquis against the Perhaps the Noble Marquis was not aware that there Noble Earl at the head of the Government of Ireland, he were some persons who changed their opinions, and expected to hear, not a mere motion for papers, but a di- others only the e xpression of their opinions.—(Cheers rect vote of censure. and laughter.) Now, the opinion of Sir R. Nagle, and that of a majority of the Irish people, was against the pre- The Marquis of WESTMEATH explained that when he rose a second time he was only going to explain, in an- sen t arrangement of the tithe questi on . B u t Si r Ri c hard swer to the Noble and Learned Lord opposite, why it was N ag le, and the people, too, had learned the advantage of he did not conclude with a vote of censure ; as it ap- having the law upon their side, and would no longer set peered, however, that he was precluded from doing this, lie themselves up in defiance of the law, and the consequence should simply read the motion which was on the paper- was, that their Lordships heard now of such meetings being- Lord BROUGHAM begged to explain that he did not held in that country with men of the weight and importance at all object to the Noble Marquis moving a vote of cen- of Sir Richard Nagle presiding over them.—(Hear.) But sure against the Noble Earl ; '.on the contrary , after the there was, m oreover , t hi s f ac t t o b e s t a t e d w i t h regar d t o speech which he had made , he thought he was called the change in Sir Richard Nagle's position, and he was upon to make such a motion. sure it would be considered as rather an important one by The Marquis of WESTAIEATH the n read the f notice the Noble Marquis himself, and • those who took the same which stood on the paper as follows .----e To move or cor- ground that he did with respect to the tithe question. Sir respondence between the office of Chief Secretary of Ire- R. Nagle, from having presided over a meeting, the effect land and the Marquis of Westmeath, relative to the reale- of which, it was supposed, was to offer opposition to the tel of Sir Richard Nagle, Bart. , fr om the lieutenancy of payment of tithes—to offer opposition to the law as it then the county of 'Westmeath, and his re-appointment thereto ; existed—had paid his tithes. This lied happened since, also, for correspondence (if any) with the Lord Chancellor and, as example was better than precept, he had paid. his of Ireland and the Marquis of Westmeath, relative to Sir tithes.—(Hear, hear.) Sir R. Nagle's conduct was, in the It. Nagle's removal and restoration vestmeath ; and to the to the com m i ss i on o f one view, only construct i ve l y encourag i ng t h e opposition to the peace for the co unt y of \ ap - tithes; while, in the other , he had taken the positive step pointment of -- Sheil, , Esq., to the commi s si on o f th e of paying t h em . —(H ear , h ear .) Wi t h regar d , then, to Si r pea Richard Nagle , he did not think it necessary to say any- Theee for Earl then rose, and said, that if' trhle of said MULGRAVEeounty' thing more. When the circumstances that had occurred the Noble Lord at the commencement of his somewhat with respect to Sir R. Nagle took place, it so happened that rhapsodical oration had intended to put him (the Ear l of he was engaged in the public service thousands of miles Mulgrave) in a passion, he never had more completely from Ireland, and he new nothing of them except through failed ; and any amusement also which his speech had the usual channels of information. But he felt conv i nce d occasioned to him had also in some degree subsided. that his Noble and Learned Friend had taken a clear and dis- He should, therefore, confine himself to reply to the dif - tenet view of the question upon both occasions—that Lord ferent charges which the Noble Marquis had brought Plunkett had taken into due consideration the propriety of before the House, in, he must say, a most extraordinary the removal from the commission of the peace in the one and unfounded manner. He had said on a former oc- case, as he had to restore the same person to the commission casion, that if the Noble Lord had followed the open and statements of the peace under altered circumstances.—(Heare)e .Very the manly course—if he had done that which , in th i s i n - many topics had been introduced by the Noble -marquis in a stance, had been done—if he had declared his opinions rambling way in his address, and soma Marquisateme n h ts in were I I distinctly with respect to the manner in w hi c h t he Go - 1 made upon the authority of the Noble vernment of Ireland had been conducted, then he (the The Noble Marquis had afforded him no opportunity of Earl of Mulgrave) should be prepared and ready to procuring papers necessary to answer his state ments ; bu t answer—he should be ready to rise in . his place in that tso happened that he had one communication with respect House, and make the best defence that was in his power to thatNohlelelarisTiiis whichdue h u em haddocument referred accidentally to at a against any charges that could be preferred. But the Noble amongst his papers. Lord observed, that he had complained the other day that mea t made in the course of one of th e N o bl e Mar no notice had been given to him, so as to enable him to be q uis's e xhibition! —to one that he had made in the early prepared with documents ; and the Noble Lord had face- part of the Session, th and he meant to read it for the pur tiously remarked, that he (the Noble Marquis) was better pose of. the tno credit was to be attached to the acquainted with the Irish post than he was, and that he a uthority f of Noble Marquis —that nothing was to be t a act.—(Hear, hear.) The Noble Marquis might have sent for an y d ocumen t s h e m i g h t requ i rel N u o h w e , ge a ?el,ndsa ro id m , the tuhft a f ssertion of the Noble Marquis as to his w w h e en lt had, w information ithreference ,,iv h e t n o l l i t e i s ( discharging th e Earl of m u iprisonersMulgrave) ) fr h o a m d it was past seven o'clock on the Friday afternoon when (the Noble Marquis) rose to make his motion, l a d, and he was too late to have a communication with vis e it t e h, the gaol of Mullingar, in the county of West awnnvaesneiennatble tod had then suggested that it would be me o ti r l e l h r e e e o West postpone the discussion on the motion ro madness, and the proof of this was that the day follow- Lord the gaoler was in a state of transition from sanity Lord said he might have written toing he had to be put into a strait-waistcoat ; and yet it was wanted from Ireland ? It to have some information on the subefrueetiandß.utNtuhwe,Nwohbalet upon the recommendation of that man that 19 prisoners was it that the Noble Marquis were let out of gaol."—(Hear, hear, from the Marquis of Westmeath relative to the re Westmeath.) Now, what would their Lordships think was a copy of the correspondencevaluwfitshir tßheichNalradrqNuiusgolef County Westmeath.—(Hear, from the Lieutenancy of the when they found that in the whole of that statement there and laughter.) was not one fact ?—(Cheers.) The man was not in a state The Marquis o f WESTMEATH said he wanted no • i of• transition from sanity to madness ; the man had not to f the such thing : h is notice was for a copy o correspondence be put into a strait-waistcoat the next day ; and it was not with the Secretary of Ireland. on the re c ommendation of that man that 19 prisoners had • The Earl of MULGRAVE observed that it did not sig_ been discharged.--(Hear, hear.) What was his astonish oify as to the exact terms of the motion- That motion merit sonic days after this statement had been made, and had been shown to him on Thursday. He was asked if he when he returned to Ireland, to receive a letter at the objected to that motion. He replied that he did not oh- Castle signed by this very gaoler! He owned that he dis ject to it, but that he thought it was at all ev en t s r i g h t trus t e d the evidence of his eyes—he could not credit it-- th a t due notice should have been given of it, Th e N o bl e h e co uld not believe that a Peer of Parliament, trusting to Marquis upon this did give his notice ; but it was without the implicit reliance that should be placed upon his solemn any communication with him as to the time that the motion assertion—he could not believe that a person so situated would he made, or without affording him an opportunity for would lightly bring forward grave charges—that he would writing for the information that the Noble Marquis re- not only do this, but state that which was directly the very quired. But what notice had he of the nature of the reverse of the fact ; and this, too, connected with his own Noble Lord's motion, and the manner in which it was to county, and with which he had an official connection-- be introduced ?—(Cheers.) He appealed to the candour (Hear, hear)—he could not believe that very Noble Lord of ev:' .able 1 . 3 r' 3 rl , o hoard him if he could possihly wouhl ‘cuture to make ,azell charges without having very Lave at;tieipated the eourb'e which tne is;oble i\larquis nud good grounds ink. thenn—o_Theers.) Yet vvinat more was thought proper to adopt upon this occasion ?—(Cheers.) there connected with the ease of the man thus assailed ?