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IMPARI,IL, YARLI.4II4E.NT. .1101:;SE OF PEERS. MoNDAV, MARCH 4., The-Archbib.hop of CANTEIIUtIftY was sworn, and hi, seat, as was also the new Bishop of Nortwtctt. _ _ For..rtreurt gave notice, that ate - 411Ottld t0,,,r00r row tinikC bintital relative toeertain Persons rflamissed fri3n) the. Dock.yards ; and moved, that the Lords be summoned on the oc:a,ion.—Ordered.. KING, on the tee insition of Lord flAwKris.. Dup,y, consented to 11,,ostpome, ltit intended .IVIo.. t'm on the Military EStablistiment of the Country, Thursday next to the following day ; for L‘i!ds were, in consequence, ordered to be summoned. ti tvlt.:Ns.tge was ordered to be sent to the Com. lt) „,14, . i ey iv oing that the Right J OHN STtr r htx i‘rtnittea to .attend a Committee of their if he su think fit..--Adivorned till to. try,lrow. 1W USE OF. COMMONS. mAacit 4• M*. A Llsots: preseoted the Minute* of the Kno . e*liototigir Eirftion Committee ; which were ortio•led to ite on ;he Table. • Mr, lio-retlit4sorr, from the Bank of England, pf ,, 4eoted o , lllli of Notes isoed - frorri the 15th tSO3, to the 1.51 h of February; 1805, neutive, . I ,tcliy tog the amount .on the isrh of raeli tiwingithhing tliose under Fite I'ountl4.—Ordeted to lie co the _Table, and to be printed. • : Mr. BAKER brought tip the Report of thi-Com. mince' Oil 'the Petition of R. IJoivyer, Eqi. for yermiv , inn to rthipn!..e.of the Historic 031/try by way' cal" Lilttery.—Ordereki to<lie on the "I'dnle. nr,3 Mr. boYD 'AO:KANDER p r p;rrocd Per6loni against the Corn L4WII, from Gteenock, Port Ght.low, Refrew, l'&itthezien, and Dumbarton.---Ordered to lie on the 'I a bt Jura-vi' brought. in a Bill eoi regulating the' Police of 1 4 :dinlAirghl which wax read a fiat time. fir. Ttwayrote brought , in a. Bill for making f.)..cks and a' Basin, ilt KitiglitOn-Upoll. ; which'wal react a first time. • Mr. Ig o Dtctsitt.,ort obtained leave to bring in a Billfor regniating the Mat ine Fvrces while on 4tore. Mr. At.rxAt:ovß brotqllit up tote Report of the Committee on the Mutiny i;iil; which, after a,fey tabserva ion . from the -t WAtt. RE4I neral F 1 TZ 'isTR I K, WAS ;IL refj to; and the BM oath:ft:a to be read a third tievie to:trturrovv. BUDGLT. • iVit. F 0,51101 gave notice, that in the Committee of Sopirly, otr.Wedriesdny next, he should niqve the 11.31;41 Graots to Irish Charities, &c. and that in the Orozioli.' ice of Ways anti" Means no Monday he forward the Dodge: for Ireland, y wive te , tice, that to.morrow ,oLnitt ,otion to the Howe on the - j , j cc, ESq, and lit% appoininient as . N.iv;d intpiry. ,i,‘• , ' ring 1 I:11 ,tk r `o L:,„ornittet, ant the Re.. r ots to he received to.niorrotv. that is kw evenin , ;,s since a Rt 4 ht Hor. F r 0 . , 11 t 1 (Nlr. WIN.Dit Am) h.ad stated,. that tl , to inwit be some milake in the Re. turn of the number. tit into raised i theCnOray.t,t Iroirey, multr Ott Difenee Ad It was ,rciurncA at 70, it 411 'int oweed I+. li.ISC L LON of ‘1.14.,. X.::IIEQUEN revlied, 1'1 , 3 . : Wisi tilt v ! titt)bqr l ovettin, the O il. gi n : 4 griiirno, and lie I . IA tither Documents by wl;ioll ti Oiteover whether or 1.0( this was an StiFltloAr protprieil his Motion ter the 14.14.41 ut the,l)etioce,Bill,' which stood lot to.mor. in Weanca,,'ay, Mr, A.I,I7XANDtit brOtliOlt op the Report, of the ,Coinie.i.Tiet an th*, ititl; which wo. eel in, and thc lilli.clldered to be read a third tiarte to.morrow, 1:;11 /INC.:ELL° I? of tie 1::XX 11E.QUE .6; ((Auld it imi r tositiiiile $ compliat‘ce with. the forins vv . : l id ) it W;ift necessary' to observe, to divide the Horse ',thy Bill as lir at firht iptriderl.. He should t h rt efoTe move For leave to bring in 'a separate Bill, for Dying :11.1'1;3(1111011a' Duty . on liOrhcs emplOyed !tit - tt; cal porposeb,'and he trusted the candour (sentientrn wow& allow this Bill 16 proceed to Oar % t; . so,ar which it was severed frottirrite old DUI, n•rnel), the tecti:l4,l rr d ,irt, 'before they protlu'ccti their ohje4tions to .it.--LCAVC given. AnurrioNAJ, SAL7I: DUTY 111144. Cti;‘,l4CKii,olt of the E;:C:IF(ItiRit having inovcit that this'Altil be now. reild'a Second time, d IV.' 'k exprovied his opinion 'that t4ts vt , tuiti %nate' lolly itiftlt . t he labouring classes of the cortontinity, ,, the prortttion tf wliotri, he IV.IS sorry, to tav, the It.4;lit fon, Cienticutan seemed . to ii4Ve been in hopes that the rte. port of the cf,ttnrillte stn 1114 . 11Objett would hate 0 4ficteritly the itteurtt ettietice o'ppres3ion a the " ! ax. now hoped that those wh o urge d the itlst iiiiory 4:1 th,tt Commit 'cr.-a w l who h a d v o. 01 their Rethiutionf, vycota coddle forward, ntid he truotd th:ti as - they -loft - recommended a le t ept,-.1 11,:. Poly, and ase ramieciocnt re art " ‘m eottnetits to tin: tree eireUldll6l . l ttf coidd . n.r, with an 'y preterilioni to con. agtee to ,I;ty iutp6sti on that t ot ir,e, 'And , wrmiti stilt tni)re itstprite its circula: itnthed;3lr c` i feCt oh i4ill' would be; to t he•the aNsrze of taint ; thz'itriett of all kind's 6,1 botilicr' racAt, would ticeesarily be increased; 11 , 11, hith' tva4 the chief trier' of man y of ti a p, ...hecutrie incite expensive. (..onclUdA -by moving;*as en Atnend4 0 1 , :fit , Not I.)r the word''titisy ; ! sttlastituted the wo!tia "4;6s months." the X.O E Q,U,E R -"" ^-' ' tilt kt rport.which lirstrlavt ;:t,:ol yr4rs' ago, anti which bad been 4 -ti - r:witd to 11. 1 tt;: I,yrd l ritoccedttt pn 'tht. tioo. purposes, among which was even. that of manure. It was certainly their objet} to give fieility to the circulation of that artiele,butilie chief hindrance to a'free circulation was the regulation which the duty necessarily demanded, And these regulations would . equally affed the circulation whether the duty amounted to 5, to, or is buidiel„ so that the Noble Lord ought not to - be satisfied with ed. vising a•rejeaion of 'a revenue of soo,Oool. which the proposed additional Duty would produce, but should proceed to advise the taking off the duty now existing, which - produced a revenue amounting to double that sum. It was singular that the Noble Lord shotild oil' on those persons, who, when the Country, was at peace, approved the: Report of the CoMmittee, and yet did not venture to institute any measure upon it, to come forward, arid in the midst - Of War declare their opinion on the present Bill. The Report had slept for three years, and theconsi. deration of it was now urged, at a time,than which, none could he more 'unfit. The Noble Lord had asserted, that this tax pressed heavily on the Poor. It was a most unpleasant thing for him to be under the'neeessity of imposing taxes which in any de. gree affefled the lower classes, hut he had a sacred duty to perform. We were engaged in a contest for the defence both of rich and of pool ; supplies must be foend; and no mode of raising them seemed to him" so little liable to object ion as the present. On the day when he f:rsi introduced this and 'hie' 'other measures of 'Finance, it was ohjetted by ttn Hon. on Gentleman that they did not f e ll su f. fleiently articles of consumption. The Noble Lord had not been juir in saying, that Govern:. ment had abandoned the interests of the lower classes. Let him look at the taxes from the year 1793 to the present time, and: he will find th a t they have been in every instance exonerated at the expense of their superiors.. The Income Tax, the Wine Duty, the Duty on Foreign' Spirits, and 3 variety of othere suflieiotoly proved this. The sum estimated as likely to be reisethfrom this additional Duty on Salt, was soo,cool. at ss. per•bushel, anti therefore proceeded on a calculation of twis of bushels being consumed. There were eleven, millions of consuritera, and it ninat be obvious to the House, how , much greater a proportion of this ,TAX would fall on the higher clews than on the lower. On a fair calculation, the consumption of a • cottage containing a family of live persons,' would " be considerably short of a bushel io the year, meke ing an annual ditty of only three or four shillings' and !Ilia it should be reColleded,colledied gradually, and from week to week, so that its influence would scarcely be felt. Taxes on consumption to he pro. duflive, must be laid on articles f 'general eon. sumption. As melte apprehended increase in the assize of bxcad, it never veriee, unless a fleettt. tioreof at letiat toolopleee Un eech sack of ' flour, and the quantity of salt used in this cape was so small, it was such' a tetilieg fraktion; ,that it could not possibly area the,price. 1 11 e hoped, there. 'fore, however specious the arguments used by 'the opponents of the measure, 'however they might, aired to be the advocates and proteAots at the poor, that the House ,would see through •the fallacy of their objeetions ; and that in the sUpporr of a c.,0,e in which the higher and thelower:clesses were equally coecernedi they woold not 'hesitate to afford to His Majesty's Goyernment 'those me:ins which were proved by them Cu, be the least ol.jee. tionable for rber put pose. Mr. Tr../X declared, that go 'far from thinking this an unobjectionable tax, he never knew one mote ohjaCtionable. in every point of view. H e ret i r e: fl y assented to the Report of the Committee it, 1301. The Right Hon. Gentlemen, seemed to.tfook, that because three years liscfelapsed since the delivery of that Repert,' and it had not been •jatfled upon, it shoola be entirely abandoned. There had been b ut one Session in which any meesUre originating in the Report could with propriety he poieesed, rind so, Leeause it had been overlooked 'during a single 'Sec. siOn, the House "was to I>e ttild that the'Report was, mere nonsense, anti unfit to ground any : proceedings on. If, instead of the situattion in which !+. e now are, we were at peace, he should certainly move for the total annihilation orthe lialt* Duty. ''• But, ,, says the Right' Hn.' Gentleman,, by a singular mode of argument, similar to One that was used the other evening on the Slave . .'radet 41 if you do not repeal the old tax, it is of no ogee() rejeel 'the new What, is the magnitude of the taX then of no consequence. We may hesitate to relinquish a large revenue although but 'imperktlY setkfied Nitll the means by which it is obtained, but to say that we Onuld tbereftite iocrease by an extension of those means was worse than abaurdo , An evil might exist, which in certain cireemstencea,, We might not 136 able to remove, but eve should at least not render it mare diffictili to :,abnlish it, and it w 4s well, known that the inereage of produce must be ecceme partied` by an increase difficulty. It had been said, that the fisheriei would not awl - re by this addle tional duty, 24 the salr esed in them was exempt from iti htit it was highly objeCtinnehle to have a very large tae on which very large drewbaeke must be 'made, The ealculatione which the Right Hoxrpltrabla Oeretlernan had entered into were ma. serially etronious e It Wes U . principle in taxation to abstain'from " hying :thy on - those'artieles • that principally formed the toad of man, such, as wheat; bread. and `bUtCjitte,ll rileat arra yt , t th e Right Hon, Gentletnen propoied to ley on the last ni ,et OpprediVC though indirect tax:. Ire sup. poses that it will fall lightly on the' poOr, On the contrary, as the . animil food of time poor, when, they were able to proaure any animal food, was ge. nerally Salted meat, it was evident that 'this was 'a tax 00 the peculiar fVod of the poor, and not on that of 'the rich. The amount would, indeed, to' a Pont man, be enormous: He had made intrity, • and - he f,nind that for Wino: a hog'ofe wenty,score; a bushel atui a half of 'salt was required o and when • the animal" was /Oftener thesalt used was mote than the due proportion. The retailers, on ilat pre6Urnp. tion of this Bill *rig p:(saed, had already advanced salt *ix shillings a 'bushel, 'so that tor' a hog of twenty - score the poet cul.t3grt* would have to pay nine's hill2ngs for salt,' and 'for one little more than a heedred weight, bur anti sistPence, mak. ing in increase in the' price of the meat of 'one-half penny in the' pound, It wa's true' that - were nil: rteiitied, it woeld iequire a sax producing e not conceive any, possible uric more . oppressive and' more Objedionable than the present, and .he therefore give his most hearty concurrence t 9 the amendment. proposed by his Noble.Ftieiid.' Mr. EGERTON had received the most positive instruaioris limn his Constituents in Chesire, to oppose a measure so injurious to their interest ; At, 'the same time, he could not refrain from returning . his thanks to the 'flight Hon. Gentleman for the' candid hearing he .had given to the Gentlemen puted for Northwick . on this subjea r although un fortunately their argument had not produced the de 'sired Ord. Mr. G/DDY.spoke against the - Bill. Be knew that the rise in salt, •oceasioned by the last duties that were imposed on it, had prevented many from laying in a stock for the fisheries. Sir W. PULTM EY knew that had not war broken out soon after the Report of the committee of 18ot had been given in, a repeal of the Salt Duty would have been proposed ; the great difficulty was to discover a substitute for a Tax which produced so large a revenue. It was a Tax that bore heavily on families' consisting old number of individuals. One great objea of Parliament had ever been not to tax the absolute necessaries of life; there was a material distinelion to be made between those and articles of occasional consumption. Salt was one of those indispensible necessaries ; leat h er was an. ,other. The injury done to agriculture by this duty was considerable.. When we computed: the addi. tional expence which the potir would incur by this new tax, we must recoiled that the retailers always doubled the amount of it in their charge. The pro. _ fittof themanufafturers of salt were very trifling ; they Ilepanded on Are extent of their sale, and to curtail this would be the obvious tendency of the new duty. It had been so in Fiance, •where,..when the tax on salt WAS high, the consumption did not exceed twelve pounds weight per annum for each, in. dividual ; hut wlien low, it amounted to twenty. eight pounds. In Scotland, when salt is dear, the poor are obliged ,to cat their oatmeal without it ; and it is well known that oatmeal requires more salt, to season it than wheat- flour does; the operation of 'the tax' would tliereinte be partial. Mr. ROSE would not follow the Honourable Baronet through all his observations on the public expenditure and economy. (4- loud cry of, Bear! Hear!) He had expressed great alarm lest the ad. ditional duty slmuld'tlecrease the consumptio n ,. b ut he could inform him that the last duty laid upon salt had , had the effect of increasing the consumption. An Honourable Gentlemen oo Ate whet side had been most egregiously misled in the calcolation'he had submitted to the House of the quantity of salt necessary for salting Pork., He , had been informed by his cook, th,it tor a basion loig of ra. scare not more than 13 or r 4. plinth of:salt was necessary.— AS to finding a substitute for this tax, it was utterly impossii)l:: to find a substitute for a tax that pro. duced a revenue of, a million . sterling. It was very easy for:Gentlemen to abuse any tax that might be offered fottheir consideration, hut be was convinced that under all the circumstances of the times, no one could he found lesS exceptionable than the present. Mr, FOX, in expla'nation, said, that it was not The quantity o f fi al t us ed in Gentlemen's families for salting that should he stated, but that used by cot. • lagers; in the 'former niiitiy parts of the hog were, perhaps, 'thrown away, while by the latter, nb pot. tion was Suffered to Iv. wasted. Sir W..:YOtitic concurred in opinion with the Hon. Gewlernan who hail just sat down. iliderman CO/ti Re sphkc at some length against the Bill. Hr: rev ' e i tr d the arguments urged'by Lord W. ittrssELL, Mr. Fox, and Sir W. PULTONUY, and obierved, that it thellinise knew how severely the tax would oi - ierate against the poor, rhey would pause before they gtve their consent to its being carried into effect. 'he SECRF,TARY at WAR said a few words in support of the measure. lie correeltd - several misstatements, and particularly one by an Hon. Baronet, who bad alledged ti at the expence of salt in poor families would he ss. per annum ,for each individual, when the lad was, that it would only be p. per annum for each "orally. Some further conversal jun ensued; in which Lord ' ARCHIBALD HARIILTON spoke against thc tax.— , Mr. liosittsSort,argued that the tax on salt .in Scotlind, amounting .only to 50,0001. on three m pions of people, could nut be oppressive. Mr.joir msTo a defended the calculation of his Han. RelaCivi Sir W. Pr.n.reNey), and maintained that the increase, ten the constimpti,n of etrch individual 'would be, Is. ;he ars°, contended, that the Duty ni).;tinOn g only to 50,0001. on three millions ,cif pew,ile, was 84cient to spew that smuggling, the constant attendant of an excessive Duty, prevailed to a great degree on thii. Mr. HoitissoN s4id, the Duty in Scotland was PtTT said a few 'words in support of tormer reasoning. The .question being called for,. the 'House divided. For the Motion 93 Against it . 6o Majority 3 3 'Vie Pill was then read a second time, and or. der, to be committed tomorrow. --Adjourned, MAI I.S, Aitai v zr.—; Dublin. Du it—g Ilarnburigh. 4 Gottenburghi Lisboni 1 Dublin, 2 Waterford. PRICE OF• STOCKS TIM DAY AT TWILVA O'CLOCIIC. COnEOIS • 56 I Omniut4 - 3 TEIE SUN. soLEg Qvis Dlck;E fALLUNI AVDLAT ? ONDON, 1t DAY, MACH 5, 1805.' WE have heard from an 'authority to which We attac4 considerable credit, that the l i tochefort &pa ilrzn has rctnrned tp that Port in 'a my Iliaable& 4!atee JUL ill SW.," l 4 4 ,114 .4•Orr 1 thei r political credit by attern . p . tine to excite i general prejudice against the proposed addition to the Tax upon Salt. The argument they yse ar? subje6t, if arguinent it can be called, is, did the TaX will chiefly fall upon the Pore — This is, in fa I, a mere assertioat, for it is a Tot very light in itself, and one that will have an opc. ration upon the whole of the Community. It wil l fall heavy upon none, and 'in a very. Short time 4 will hardly be felt at alt. - But it is evident, by the clamour which the Opponents of Goverment tasks on this point, that they h a ve no s ofi s i an tial plea to . . . urge against any of the general measures of Adatisi• st ration,. or against the rest 'of the Taxes &Vigil for supportlng the unavoidable burthens of the State. It' never.can be supposed that these Opponents of Gll vernment have a properidea of the danger that 111101., ens the. Country-from the designs . of an anabitiogit rancorous and unappeasable Enemy—anEciemY whose sole and avowed objeft is to annihilate us wholly as an independent State. When we find some anNnt the adversaries of Government doing all they co to ridicule the Volunteer Service, and corisequoi l l to excite the hopes of the Enemy, in making hi m believe that we shall fall an easy prey 1 0 h ig , veteran and experienced hordes of lto6'ns' it they could once area a landing ; and when Ire find, that others endeavour, with eq o4l to bring odium upon oar Internal Resources I°l guarding against .the menaced evil, what t oast be thought of their pretensions to patri()li' in ' It 'most really excite,astonishment to find, that itie of acknowledged talents can calmly 10 " at the Countries ucder French domination, and Yct sna ke such petty.and persevering cavils against meads , calculated to avert sucli a dicadfoi Tate fun, w i'' 'their' own, mea , ,tites that are diktated by 0 30 dom, and' that arc founded in moderation, L pal due regard to the weight which already pr o " s the People. MIDDLESEX ELECTION. This day the Commiitet; came to the ' e °-- Resolutions : That GcoRGE B. m AiNwAR /so wag not duly eleacd; That Sir FRANCIS BURDETT was duly ti ellet N and ought to have been returned ; wal That the Petition against the said Re turn not frivolous or vexatious. • rra g, Yesterday morning Has MAIRSTY and the • , c asses Sonia A and Am kr. 1 , accompanica cos MiNsTCR and General MANNERS, M"i" F r : ld i ot &C. on 1101SC4aCk, took an airing in Motion''' if Park. Bun MAJIIITY kind t he other ra iso's uw T k h a e n c a o i n r d i it ig io l : l4 o * f r7g th u e lar E e n • glish on' justly detained in France by the Corsican t i ' Ll ,to • is sand to have been rendered still more v ° '` i. „ - cg t and distressing by the following circurn""uia, These Prisoners,, anxious to enj:•y (1 1; 11 :01 tions arising from the rrfortmince. of rho duty,. s in their captivity, solicited perrois,ion inhc p f i f i r e e r n d c u li n, G f. ot r cr i n b rn e ent to employ av r t r9e: vi 41P Permission being g P r u a t n p t:d le , h P a p rQ e l l e :4::s n c t )l; a::rd ' s li t7t Pi vine Service duly' performed.' Seventh have talten. place, and the issue of those mi ll ' t ;of were of course expected to possess the.P ruPc :;," r i i : n ir , 'Pi: those marriages had not taken ° rents and : relatives in this Courd 60/deny t •is .. said, .however, that the next in % c jot,' ic oo I their validity, ;Wedging that the m it. was not propsgly cons'icrated, nor ilie 'f t hil riages celebrated according to the 1 , 3 1 " ° 00 4 C ountry. This is a case of a nice, dell"tcjolti, complicated nature, and whateVer.tuaY be , - mate decision, must naturally excite geea r netts, erohlrrassment, and anxiety. Lil tr' The following paragraph appeared in Tyr ts,si Advertiser received in town yeaterdaY 1 m ei The following is the Copy of a Leit er : t wit' 1 London, Feb. 27, from Gen, GAscotaNi t s, e to the Export Duty on,Salt, addretxed to rn shipful Wm. flwar k u, Esq. Mayor : ost' lLF. "" I am authorized by Mr . . Purr to 01t0 011 s eats at Liverpool, that lie s h all., for the present Y ' ',,1 . 41" from pressing. in the Rouse of Communi ' ' th e proPu" on the Export of Salt to the Continent." ' 1161 • Yesterday was held a trial of the Pi', nt,*„..100,101!, monies coined, at the'Minr of the T o wer or ',API since the year 21802, in presence of th e Lord' Majeaty's most Honourable Privy Counedi minster-flall, when, upon the strictest sc r- ,„ • '1.1 1) 41 an able jury of Qoldsini ths, , the coins were be fully agreeable to tile standards of Nis Exchequer. 3" `Orders have been sent to the. Mints In l i e f 0 1 ° SiSilver Coinage for Ireland, 'to the amount o lr 0 Million Sterling, with all ppsstble titsp arcll ! riec er ' I to consist of l'en.penny Frve-P enil ) Idri ' ls The Mint has undertaken to execute the the rate of to,oool. , rbe first week , And Intoti far.every week after, until the whole Ow" 1 have been issued. n"' • WO vi The 17ilt Aegiment of Light Dtegonn6 , „ era or been quartered at. Clonmel about on e Y e 6. o f be Qrenpkced by the a Eith. so Sunday , Genii ig 114 after t he di s P g g4p the Sacrament of the Lord's Supper t° p o d, tr ItSOl4'S congregatidri in - Lauder, Sc o,llro Meeting-house Was broken into, anti the In: s en , 1 1 ,, the colleetions were deposited farted ° l ore crq whole of the colleetioni' m ade upon r he ' d oh ' lr clays, the remains of the Communion Wi ll ; c if , it bag containing the'tokcns, were car ried r ty'i CAI ftor 11 04