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7vernment to prevent lied on in SAIALL rouhl, on duce to 'usts Bill, Tier of the its, and to,. ication 0 1 .1 accounts estigatiou• ry for t he i o n of th. o so that tr notince d, p3s s the )rd un der qica %dy Le Holier i seems to Ls befallea aham sod ight S. en lately new to regr ,y serv ers approved the roe ilgated to . he ca l l prep ar . e: yal og' inqus ition 1) 7 - )rivate a to base whether that the rd. Th e k Whit e : Was„ !it gtuL ,..; t y ins•tie' state I re wsthlA- wi oder" 120 O f i o eo oft be bring rdia o s ie dis- of the would Lvered t wa s t,' o f e iting s t Mr' d not Rider also that the revenue is a considerable sufferer by the mode in which those duties are raised. We con sider it rr lost necessary, for the sake of the public, for the sake of the interests must concerned, for the sake of trade and ea:amerce in this country, to endeavour to melee a: a permanent settlement, and not to expose thi sf question t o di scuss i on an d d ou bt f rom y ear to year. "eßear, hear.) With these motives, however unpre- Pated we may seem to be, I am now, Sir, about to state to the Committee the general. reasons on which we have conceived the plan which I am ne w about to propose to this House for the permanent settlement of. the question. Sir, it has been generally acknowledged by all, by the most intelligent writers or really years, that the sugar duties h ave be en enormor.sly increased. Mr. M'Culioch, in his "Dictionary of Commerce," as well as in his tee work, on taxation, states, that the in creaseia the prices of sugar, supposing foreign to rise from 21s. to 255., is in the last thre ° years not less than 3,240,0004 a year. During these and the following years, by the advance in h t e Place of sugar , it w as ren d ere d una t ta i na bl e t o a ~'argf, class of consumers, and, consequently, extremely Wetted in the demand. Passing now from what has 11a PPened in former years, I will take notice of the ), 'au propo s ed by the Right Honourable Gentleman t he late First Lord of the Treasury, the effects of that and the views with which it was introduced.- (near, bear.) The Chancellor of the Exchequer at that time in speaking of Java sugar, said that, observing the PHce ttt some months to be 225., and at other times at 245., he w eadd take the average to be 20s. per cwt., which u ' ll t ) : 1 (1 give a total consumption of 43,000 or 44,000 cw t. 4 ; 4 in the course of the year a ve r y cons id era bl e r i se taking place, and the Gazette prices av e raging in the four first weeks of April at 30s. a cwt., a nd in th e f our l ast wee k s o f D ecem b er a t 35 5 . a cw t., the hopes of the Right llon. Gentleman were to a great o e gree disaointed. I will next take the financial .. pp te ment of the First Lord of the Treasury, who said ho considered it probable that the reduction of t t i he duty would equally increase the consump i-g") which he estim a t e d f rom 120,000 t o ,i" °,4 o tons, giving a re t urn o f 2,240,0001. , night Hon. Gentleman proceeded upon the reduc '34 of sugars, and reduced the duties to the amount of 11 s. per cwt. on the colonial sugar which was more than sufficient but by limiting the field of supply, and raising t he duty with reference to other sugars tobe admitted to different from the truth . With reference to the e ther kinds of sugars there is the actual facts of the z stse with reference to sugars from the Ist of January, 1845 , to January Ist, 1846. The Right Hon. Gentle /Zhu calculated upon 160,000 tons of colonial sugar ;the ac tual consumption was 237,6 32 tons sugar , clayed or e qual to white clayed. The Right Ho no u r a ble G entleman calculated upon 7,000 tons-the consump ti°ll had been 1,107 foreign free-labour sugar ; the a tuount estimated was 5,600 tons; the actual consumption Was 3,809 tons foreign free labour clayed, or equal to White clayed 180,000 tons, the actual consumption only 4 ,000 tons. British Plantation Muscovado sugar was e stimated at 2,240,000, the actual consumption was 3 326,904, instead of 1,140,000 clayed sugar ; the re ceipts were 18,000/. ; the difference between fo reign free labour and Muscovado sugar was 116,700 an d 88,000 t ons . Th e total decrease, according ) the esti ma t es , i n t h e revenue rece i ved was 4 81 ,00 0/ . That was not the actual decrease, as a large proportion 1) f this sugar entered before the Right Hon. Baronet 1 3 31.° Posed hi s p l an, f or t h e actua l diff erence i s on ly 41'5291.tj, Now, Si r , I thi n k these accounts are sufficient show that, w hil e th e Right Honourable Baronet Ite, k ..7`i upon the principl e of reducing the duty for the pure °E effecting au increase in the consumption he was per -I)oeetly right. But it was an absolute failure when he peo• e p to introd uce diff eren t c l ass e s of sugar at differential le d ~,u ig h duti es , an d it was o n ly there that he failed I a ke up hi s revenue according to his estimate. tr e ," l Low proceed to state what are the general aet'ets, as obtained from various sources as to the pro see sa te , ep, , y of sugar for the coming year, taking the 14 1 ' 4 4 from the sth of April, 1846, to the sth of April of , 1 %2 1 the estimate which I now hold in my hand, which , i t is der extreme, and by no means likely to be realized, , 1 10%74 that the quantity of colonial sugar in ware- hzt4l r , 144 0,000 tons ; that statement sets forth the ee l - , atsoll'oltSntity, and is considerably less than t e usual e s th• The estimated imports, calculated from ‘pp e . ° :' April, 1846, to the sth of April, 1847, , Ivl ttu ,,T °ll , to the West Indies 125,000 tons ; from the 80, 01 V il ls, 50,000 tons ; and from the East Indies, , se eo , ‘ , ° , t clus ; amounting in the whole to 255,000 tons, r4 /0 , -. 1, ""Ig to this estimate ; and the most sugar which %) , " 0 „," ° expected from other foreign countries would be , eihi -0 toe s more, making in the whole 275,000 tons, to of 4 0,000 tons have to be added, giving a total must 315 ,000 tons ; from this 45,000 the usual amount ha ve deducted, leaving 270,000 tons. Now, Sir, I other returns with respect to the , 41,,, bere various the period I have mentioned, which ; Pear of sugar to be no nearer the case than this. One I va ar to me a statement put forth by those interested in the , I kde ot the West Indies, which gives to the West Indies , 1 25,000 tons, the Mauritius 50,000 to ns , an d the E as t L adies 75,000 tons, making altogether 250,000 tons. , 4 tter e is another statement with respect to refined sugars, th!licla apportions to the West Indies 115,000 tons, to , e Mauritius 40,000 tons, and to the East Indies 70,000 'as, making altogether 225,000 tons. I have another tolls, whi c h g i ves t o t h e W est I n di es 110,000 i ll s, to th e M aur iti us 45 ,000 tons, an d to the i t t s t Indies, 35,000 t ons , ma ki ng a lt oget h er 180 , 000 t ons. I We another f rom p ersons eng a ge d i n th e trade;_which 23 11 0 4 es the wh o l e supp l y 230,000 tons. N ow, Si r, a b out ' OO O tons may be taken as a fair estimate of the supply Sugar for the forthcoming year. I have had a statement Par ed of the effect of the Right Honourable Beutle `i s loan's plans, from January, 1845, to January e pre sent year ; b ut t h e statement f rom A pr il to APn gives 250,000 tons. I think we cannot say, a er : tlin g to that statement, supposing the duties th at - fis t ° be nominally what they were last year, s" e re was less than 20,000 tons of increased con g~etion. Th ere was a s t a t em ent made by the Right lobe'Gentleman Gentleman at the commencement of this year , Z he stated his general plan with regard to the ai ld finances of the country, in which he proposed to there should be a reduction on free labour sugar tel , s, 10d. from 235., but that the duty al a d foreien sugar s h ou ld remain the same. La o c'w Si I have an extract from a circular, published at rakT,_rPool, an d w hi ch is dated Fe b . 2, 1846. I t says, e effect of the alteration in the sugar duties will be a Caetiou of 3s. 6d. per cwt. for foreign free-labour sugar.'i ' here that statement is made by a person of experience ` 4 cle, and whi c h i s t h oroug hl y b orne out b y t h e f act ili at ,,You will b e di sappo i nte d i n o b ta i n i ng an i ncrease t he "te revenue p ro p or ti onate to the i ncrease i n it C onsumption of sugar ou which a heavy tax that Paid. Now, let it be borne in mind, supposing th e con s u mption i s 250,000 t ons, there ; 0) , 14 ' be a tax upon the people of this cou n t ry , un d er reg ent circumstances, of 1,500,0001.--(llear, hear)-- " t a d that is a tax which does not flow into th e Ex t.'tequer.-(llear, hear.) I should, therefore, b e na ttrally disposed to propose the admission of other i' reign sugars into the markets of this country t :aurply the deficiency under which we at present suffer % , , ,Y materially. But, Sir, we are met by an objection b 7iela has hitherto prevailed upon this House, contrary ,;" the system which has prevailed during the last four p t 'is years, but which has not prevailed here during the 4 :sent year, viz., that the people ot this country herenot be allowed to buy in the cheapest market, ta: re is also another principal objection raised against that removal of the duties on sug ar , a nd th a t i s , try' if all sugar was admitted free into this coun steel that should be encouraging th e s l ave t ra d e , t there are other considerati o n s w hi c h °l i t erei2h a Nlieh all financial and commercial views, viz., those i bec lPle a - t e l: °z tleeted with the comfort and welfare of th e do n -r ge• Sir, in examining that argument whi c h out aot Propos e to d o at an y l eng th, I w ill j ust po i nt Nt Wh „ at I think to be the weakest part of it. %t it° argument fails, because while you refuse admis ealizitr Your ho me markets o f th e suga r s f rom f ore i gn ° ther tea ' You place no such barrier on the admission of vse Producti ons - of cottons, tobacco, copper, and •Lea s had , thecAber things w hi c h a r e produced by slave labour; r Poerefore, Sir, you do not actually carry into effect, sha ck : Pretend to carry into effect, those humane views of eers Isl a o ns who are most opposed to the admission hand .va Produce consistently maintain. I hold in my Af ter a circular with respect to the sugar duties. l a th e Pointing out the increase which had taken place pre,e4roduce of cotton from 1790 to 1845, the paper 'IN B to call down the indiguation of all moralists point,at slave r)'• ,1.3. But the paper omits one important exec It s tates no re ason w h y t h e U n i te d S tates s h ou ld hea r) ed from the principle of exclusion.-(Hear, que st N OW, nobody can have forgotten the elo a, stel e , tae ents that were made in this House a short b"hek ilk re by a Right Hon. Friend who sits near me, gess.) reek to slavery and the slave trade.-(Hear, ke t, I the Member the Right Honourable Gentle s ember for Edinburgh. Nobody can deny foreei fa ct of . the observations which he made, ee Ne quaric w hich he then st..tod. We admit a te: t 4 4l / 4 eotteltY of the produce of Auserica, and thus, to a ei tme !It, hold out an encouragement to the slave " P " lie rY o our ousielency upon this subject, - we ought to say to the United States, "we will not admit your produce until you solve the problem which now oc cupies the attention of the Anti-Slavery Society, of how emancipation shall be brought about in the United States." In fact, for the same reason that they ex cluded sugar they ought to shut out American cotton. The same thing may be said with regard to many other articles. With regard to copper ore, slave labour is freely used in the production of that article, and yet we do not exclude it, from our markets.—(Hear.) Such is your position if you proceed on this exceptionary rule in regard to the produce of foreign countries. But you hase not been able to keep this ground in your dealings with these countries. You have not been able to supply yourselves only from your‘colonies in which slavery does not exist, or from countries where free labour alone exists.—(Hear, bear.) And in increasing your sup plies, you have been under the necessity of admitting sugar from the countries where slavery, or something approaching it, does exist, in order to meet the wants of the markets of this country.—(Hear, hear, hear.) In your dealings with these countries you have not been able to carry out the principle on which your present law is founded. You have not been able to inquire whet is the peculiar state of society in Java, or whether it is not a state of slavery, something at least approaching to it. What the particular state of society is in Manilla, you have equally failed in in quiring into. In obtaining a larger supply of sugar from these countries, you have not ventured to act on those principles of law upon which you have proposed to act, but you admitted their produce on the faith of the treaties you had with them ; you have admitted their produce as: the produce of the most favourned nations, and in competition with the produce of free labour.—(Hear, hear.) I say you have admitted the sugar of these countries, and though the qaantity intro duced may not have been great, still you have backed out of the strict principle which you have laid down. There can be no doubt of this. But in doing this you have refused to Spain the advantages which you have given to other countries. Spain claimed, under the treaty with her, the right of sending produce to this country on the footing of the most favoured nations. You have, in agreement with your principle, been obliged to refuse, though the act, I am bound to say, does not redound much to the honour of a great country like this.—(Agar. bear-) It was shown by the Spanish Ministers two years ago, that within the last ten years Spain has claimed the benefit of the treaty of being admitted on the footing of the most favoured nations, but it has been repeatedly refused.—(Hear, hear.) On this subject I cannot but be of opinion that although the treaty with that country might not strictly warrant its produce being admitted on the most favourable terms, yet that the principle of the most favoured nation ought to have been applied to it. The same principle ought to have been applied to the fish eries of the two countries, at Ne w found land and elsewhere. If the salt-fish of England, then the salt-fish of Spain must be refused also; and the same rule must be applied to the salt-fish of France. The Spanish Minister said that he acknowledged the principle, but he said also that these treaties required to be revised by the different countries. That is the sum and substance of the conversation between the Ministers of England and Spain, proving sufficiently that the opinions of English and Spanish Ministers were against that state of things. Now, when persons stand up for a permanency in these duties, they must endeavour to find excuses for their opinions. But there are further and more vital objections against the admission of slave sugars. They do, to a certain degree, diminish the price of free-trade sugar even in Great Britain ; but the resources of commerce are injured, yet the spirit of commerce is too ener getic to be bound by the stipulations on this question. But what do the merchants do ? They endeavour to find markets in other countries ; they search Europe ; they coast the Mediterranean; they reach Petersburgh and other places, and in this way they find markets for their slave-grown produce. Now, Sir, this affects our markets ; it may be in a very inconvenient way, and attended with a good deal of loss to English commerce ; but still it does away with the objection so often urged, namely, that no em ployment is given by England to the cultivation of Cuba and Brazilian sugar. I see it sometimes said— popularly said that this slave-grown sugar is the produce of tyranny the produce of crime—that it is so much stolen, material, so much stolen goods, which it is asked us to consume. ThiS is very well, but what would be thought of a person who would come with a quantity of stolen sugar—stolen from an adjoining warehouse— who would come to a shopkeeper and offer it for sale. The shopkeeper would say, "Why, these are stolen goods ; I cannot buy them, but I have a neighbour who has no scruples. I will direct you to him, and be will buy ; I can pur chase from him again with the full drawback ;" and by this proceeding the whole morality of the affair is lost.—(hear, hear.) I therefore, Sir, for these several reasons, on which I will not further dwell, hold that the ground which has been hitherto taken by the Governments of this country has not been the correct one—(hear, hear) — and that we must in this instance, as in the propositions of the late government, adopt the principle of re moving all restriction, and of admitting the people of this country to the best and cheap est markets ; and, acting on this principle, we must admit the sugar of foreign countries into the United Kingdom. But, Sir, while I say that you have no sufficient grounds any longer to refuse to the people This country that benefit—( Hear, hear. )—while you ought not to deny to them the power of obtaining their sugar at one million and a half, or two millions of money less than the price that it now pays, there are other considerations which indeed it would be improper and imprudent to overlook, and which demonstrate that such a change cannot take place immediately. It was very fairly urged by the West India proprietors that the change from slavery to freedom was an immense revolu tion, in affecting their interests and the market for labour ; the revolution changed the produce of the growers from 4,000,000 to 2,500,000 in the course of a very few years ; and that even your twenty millions of compensation, large and liberal as it was, has not been a full compensation for the loss which they have suffered.—( hear.) They say, moreover, that having had to reconcile themselves to this great change, and to employ persuasion where they had formerly used compulsion—persuasion to entice them away from indolence, which was natural to a people just made free—and that this country did not allow them a full admission to the other markets of the world where they could have obtained free trade. Now I think they are somewhat justified in these complaints. The jealousy of Parliament upon this question was the origin and cause of the orders in Council which prohibited the pro curing any labourers from Africa. Such was the course which led to the rejection of the complaints made in the House of Lords of those orders in Council which prohibited the importation of Hill Coolies from the East Indies into the West Indian colo nies. But it was not, however, the less a real grievance to the proprietors of estates in the West Indies; nor should it be urged as a claim against the equalisation of these duties with the sugars of other countries. There were reasons also connected with the revenue which should not induce Parliament to sanction an immediate equalisation of the du ties. Any sudden change of duty would, no doubt, • most seriously affect the revenue ; but it would also throw out of cultivation some of our colonies, and consequently keep the : mi d r : lt; t t eh s e uf t . h .ro i e s i o ns u h n at t hi r le y p it,badlypema:sraueppl considerablei whiche d fora l c intendo. d s i du re to daction propose i duty u e t ; p d rze i rt e : dear, and e a y gr a tutl g r ub e t clatr o f le r t e d m was y r t year in thought that the Government would the duties upon foreign sugars to disp osed to r %WY.: but, considering that proposition, it appears to me that by a slight increase of the prices o f f ore i gn sugar in this country we shall entirely lose the benefit of such reduc tion both to the consumer and to the grower. The average price of foreign sugar according to a printed paper laid on the table of the House, on the motion of my Honourable Friend the Member for Lambeth, was for brown or yellow sugar 20s. sd. The average price of West India, Mauritius, and East India sugar was 225. Bd.; these prices are for the year 1845. Now, Sir, supposing the duty is 235. 4d., and the price of Manilla sugar should rise to 255., you would then have the price of sugar to the consumer 48s. 4d., and we should then be exposed to the same results which followed the policy of the Right Hon. Baronet with reference tothis question. I, therefore, pfbpose that in the present year, instead of the duties of 635., a prohibitory duty, and a duty of 235. 4d., that on all foreign Museovado sugar there be a duty of 21s. per cwt. I shall propose, too, that that duty should diminish n the following manner : for continuing the present duties for one month from the time of their expiration, and resumed his seat amidst loud cheers. The resolutions having been put, Mr. GOULBURN said, he agreed with the Noble Lord that this subject was one of the greatest importance in a com mercial, political, and moral sense, and he thought he should best advance a fair discussion of the question by forbearing to enter into any debate until a future opportunity. lie should, therefore, confine himself to asking the Noble Lord one question with respect to a part of his statement, and upon which he did not correctly understand him. The Noble Lord stated that with respect to the colonial trade he would seek for an Act of Parliament to empower the several colonies to repeal such portions of the discriminating duty at present existing in those colonies with regard to the produce of foreign countries and the colonies. He did not understand whether it was the Noble Lord's intention still further to give extension to the colonial trade by promoting an intercourse in the produce of those colonies with foreign countries, or whether it would be confined to the ships of this country. This was an im portant point, and he shi uld therefore wish to know the in tention of the Noble Lord with respect to it. Lord J. RUSSELL said, what he proposed to do was to empower her Majesty to give her assent to those Acts of the Colonial Governments with respect to the discriminating, duties. He did not in any respect propose to alter the naviga tion laws now subsisting. He merely proposed to take the power he had mentioned. Lord G. BENTINCK said that he and the friends around him, proposed to give their support to the Noble Lord, to the plan which he had so ably and perspicuously laid down on the whole, but there were two points on which they could not do so. They would not consent to the removal of the protection which the colonies had hitherto enjoyed. True to the principles upon which they had acted on former occasions, his friends around him were not disposed to consent to the admission of slave-grown sugar on the same conditions as the produce of free labour. They were determined, if possible to secure to the East and West Indian colonial proprietors the pro tection which they had hitherto enjoyed.—(Hear, hear.) His Noble Friend had said that, in his opinion, the agricultural interest, having lost their protection, it ought to be a consolation to them that they would have an opportunity,of obtaining their sugar cheap. Now, he could tell his Noble Friendthat it would be no consolation to them, that having lost their own protection they would have an opportunity of robbing the East and West India interest of their protection.—( Hear, hear.) A statement had been made to the House to the effect that therewould be agreat falling off in the supply of sugar from the colonies, but he thought his Noble Friend had understated the quantity of sugar that might be expected to be derived from the East and West Indies for the years 1846-47. His Noble Friend had stated the amount to he expected from the Mauritius at no more than 50,000 tons, but from the best information he could collect upon the subject he could say that 60,000 tons would be the produce of the year. The Noble Lord had stated the produce of,the East Indies at no more than 80,000, but he had every reason to believe that the produce of the year would be 1 00,0013 tons for Bengal alone, exclusive of the sugar that might be expected from Madras, which was estimated at 60,000 tons.— (Hear, bear.) On these grounds lie begged to intimate that he and his party were decidedly opposed to the proposed change, and when his Noble Friend moved his resolution it was his intention to propose an amend. meet.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. G. BERKELEY said he should not be prepared to sup port the Government unless they made some arrangement for supplying the colonies with labour. He for one was not averse to the colonies entering into competition with the foreigner, but first let them be placed in the position of the foreigner with regard to the supply of labour.—( Hear, hear.) Lord JOHN RUSSELL made an observation which did not reach the gallery. Mr. G. BERKELEY continued—Well then, if the Noble Lord was prepared to do his best for supplying the colonies with labour, he should have no difficulty in supporting the proposed change.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. MOFFATT said he wished, with the permission of the Committee, to ask the Noble Lord three questions. First, whether it was bis intention to keep up the difference between Muscovado and clayed sugar. Secondly, whether he intended to keep up the existing duty on refined sugar ; and thirdly, whether he intended to make any change in respect of double refined sugars.—( Hear, hear.) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, with regard to the first question, he thought the distinction ought not to be kept up, but until he had obtained further informa tion on the subject he could not promise a change. With re gard to the second question, it was intended to keep up the duty • but with regard to the third, the sam e c h ange wou ld b e extended to double refined as was proposed to be applied to other sugars.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. P. M. STEWART urged upon the Government the necessity of doing away with the excise duty on rum altoge ther. A duty of Is. would still keep it out of Scotland and Ireland, and it would depend upon the manner in which the Noble Lord dealt with this article whether those who were in terested in the colonies would go along with him in his change or not.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. BERNAL said he had never been able to learn whether the law imposed any restrictions on the use of sugar in breweries ; and he would, therefore, now give notice of his in tention to enter upon this subject on some future occasion. Mr. BERKELEY regretted that the Noble Lord had not the power to make free trade more palatable to him. Mr. EW ART would have preferred a more speedy settle ment of this question than that proposed by the Noble Lord. He did not see why any distinction should have been imposed on the importation of molasses. He hoped to see the time when the people of this country would be in the enjoyment of cheap sugar, and cheap food of every kind. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied to the remarks of Mr. Stewart. He said that the tax on the im portation of rum was not imposed merely for the sake of re. venue ; it was imposed principally with the view of admitting rum and British spirits to be consumed tat the same terms. In reply to Mr. HOPE, Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that the yearly contracts far wine, to which he had alluded in his explanation, would be sanctioned in Asia, Africa, and everywhere else. Mr. BAILEY regretted that the settlement of this great question had been delayed until so late a period of the session, when it was well known 'that many of the members had left London. the various subjects on which the West Indian body have stated that while they think that any equalisation in the foreign and colonial sugars is unjust to them, and incon sistent with the policy which Parliament has hitherto sanctioned, and yet, supposing it to be done, that there are claims which they think they are entitled to make, and placing them on per fect equality as respects the production of other parts. The first is, that subject which I have mentioned to the House, the subject of emigration. 'We find, I remember myself, when I was in the Colonial-offiee, we so far relaxed the orders of Council, which have hitherto passed; and proposed to take the sanction of the Queen in Council, and obtain an order for permitting negroes to emigrate from Sierra Leone and the West Indian islands. Now, those orders in Council have been very much considered by the Government that followed ; various other relaxations have been made with respect to other parts of the world; I believe very considerable indulgence has been adopted by Mr. Gladstone when he was Secretary of State for the Colonial Department. With respect to that sub ject there is only one material alteration which we ptopose to make. It is that the contracts or agreements which are en tered into in Sierra Leone, or the British settlements, or Africa, as to the e m pl o y men t o f negroes s h ou ld h o ld good in the West Indies. We think, upon the whole, that with the present knowledge which the West India proprietors have on this subject, and with the knowledge of that which was stated by Lord Metcalfe, admitting the fact that labourers in Jamaica, and most other Indian islands have much more demands on the employed than the employed on the employers, I should say that we might give permission for contracts of service to be made for a single year. But with regard to another proposal which is to be made, namely, that they should be allowed to make those contracts on the coasts of Africa, where we have not possessions—where the British flag does not wave, we do not think it sufficient that such should be made without some additional conditions. Other questions the West India interest has laid considerable stress upon ; for instance, they say rum is not admitted upon equal terms with the liquors and spirits of other states and colonies. We have looked into this, and we think a reduction in the duty may be safely made from Is. Otl. to Is. —( Hear, hear.) There is another subject which they complain of. They complain of the differences which exist in the excise duties of Scotland and Ireland; but we think that to make any alteration in this respect would he attended with a good deal of difficulty. —( Hear. ) There is another article which they wished to have released from the excise restrictions. They ask us to allow molasses to be used in distilleries free of duty ; but here there are diffi culties in our way, and we cannot at present give them this advantage. Now I think it is but fair, while we are applying free-trade principles at home, we ought to extend them to the colonies.—(Hear, hear.) We therefore purpose to relax the duties which are imposed on the introduction of timber and provisions into certain of our colonies. —( Hear. ) In speaking of this subject some years ago, I said that I thought the whole system of the country had gone on in a vicious circle.—( Hear, hear.) The manufacturers asked for protection, and the colonist and the farmer were not enabled to get supplies of manufactured goods from foreign countries, and were obliged to pay a high price for the home produce. The colonistfarm er a w s e k for n reed not able ab r l o e te t o e t g i tsn et suppliest i manufacturer fprovisions and the elsewhere. The colonist also asked for protection, and, in consequence of this the farmer and the manufacturer were not able to receive supplies from them. The whole system was a bad one, and I then stated that we ought to endeavour to break the circle.—( Hear, hear.) That has been in a great measure done since I then spoke; and I do not think, unless the ground of morality and slave labour is to be con sidered an argument now, that you can continue to keep up in favour of the colonies the differential scale of duties—etax which pressed sic heavy on the country.—( Hear, hear.) I do not think that those parties who, dur.ng the pre sent session of Parliament, have favoured protection to the agricultural interests, if they oppose the alteration in these differential duties, could give a satisfactory account of it to their constituents.—( Hear, hear.) It might have been well for them to have dune so, had their plan for pre venting the abolition of the protection to the landed interest succeded, but it had not done so; this they could not say, and therefore it would be better that they should go before their constituents and say that the time for the abrogation of all these protection duties had arrived. I believe that it will not be considered satisfactory for them to say, we have been unsuccessful in the support of our principle, or the op posite opinion has prevailed, yet we will so contend that the co lonial produce should still continue dear to the farmer, and that the labourers he employs shall continue to pay a high price for al the colonial produce he consumes. 1 will beg leave to refer to another subject, because it has reference to another year. The Right Honourable Gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer, in his •statement lately made to the House, drew a flattering prospect of the financial condition of the present year, but it was impossible not to observe that with regard to the future year his statement was not of so consolatory a description. The Right Hon. Gentleman's estimate for the next half-year, is 21,650,000/. ; out of this sum the China money is to be de ducted (700,000/), and the estimate therefore for the expenses of the United Kingdom, is calculated at 20,950,000/. The expenditure the Right Honourable Gentle man estimates at 50,873,000/., but if we take away from that expenditure 200,0001., which may be considered an expense of a temporary nature, it leaves an amount of 50,673,0001. But then we must add certain ex penses which the Right Hon. Baronet has not added. There is the Irish constabulary, of which the expenses for the half iear is only taken. We must add for this item to next half year's account 175,0001. ; we must also add for extraordinary services 283,0001.; for school and medical attendants on poor-law unions 61,5001. ; half-year's expenses for prosecutions in Great Bri tain, 60,0001., and for Ireland, 9,0001., making alto gether an amount of 62,850,000/ . I should, therefore, state the future permanent expenditure of the country, according to the Right Honourable Gentleman's esti mate, at 51,302,0401., and the permanent income at 50,950,000, thus leaving a deficiency for the years 1847,:1848, of 352,0401. Now when there is a prospect like that made out for us by the Right Hon. Gentleman, it seems to us expedient that an endeavour shall be made to obtain an increase of income, at the same time that no augmentation of burdens shall be placed upon the people. The plan which I have to propose, supposing that there were 240,000 tons of sugar, for the produce of the West and East Indies and the Mauritius, would give a return of three millions three hundred and sixty thousand pounds. I stated that it might be expected that 20,000 tons of free labour sugar might arrive in the course of the present year. With .regard to other sugars no very great supply might be expected, owing to the examination clause.--( Hear. ) The greater part of the supply of foreign sugar at present in warehouse has been brought here in American ships, which is therefore inadmissible in this country by reason of the Naviga tion Act. Now, Sir, I should think it very presumptuous in us, for a mere emergency, to propose an alteration in the navigation laws ; for I consider any question arising as to them ought to be matter fur grave and serious consideration, that there might be a permanent change in them, if change be by auy means required. The consequence will be, that a small proportion of sugar will be admissible. I have taken great pains to inquire, and I find that eight or ten thousand tons at most of foreign sugar. Mr. GOULBURN—'Warehouse sugar? Lord JOHN RUSSELL Of foreign warehouse sugar would be admissible by the present change, but I think we may take the whole of what would be admitted of foreign sugar at 20,000 tons, 10,000 more for slave- grown sugar, and 10,000 of other sugar, making in all 40,000 tons, which at 21/. would give 840,0001. I think in this statement I have taken the foreign sugar at the very lowest estimate ; but looking on it as a question of revenue, I consider that it would return 4,200,000/. Now the revenue derived by the plan of the Right Hon, Gentleman was 3,475,000/. So, therefore, the plan which I propose will give an increase of 725,0004, which will turn the account in our favour, and show a surplus.—( Hear.) I have now stated generally to the House what is the plan proposed by her Majesty's Government with reference to the sugar duties; and I should add that I look upon this plan as one which, so far as the principle is con cerned, is to be a permanent settlement of those duties.— ( Hear, hear.) I shall therefore propose, if those duties are carried into Committee, to found upon them a Bill in which I shah• make the sugar duties permanent, and not leave the ques tion to be debated year after year. Much, Sir, as the West Ind'a interest may ftel themselves aggrieved by the change which takes away this prohibition, I think the settlement of a question which has been to them a source of so much anxiety, and which has been so repeatedly a matter of debate, will be in a great degree a com pensation for that change. I do not propose to vary in any respect that constitutional practice of leaving a large amount of revenue dependent upon the yearly vote of the House ofporn mot* and I shall propose, therefore, some other source of re venue, which I shall state to the House before these resolutions are come to on the Bill, which shall be made a yearly income, and for which the Minister of the Crown shall every year ask the Parliament. I know some persons will say that by this plan we are again destroying that principle of protection which is due to the colonies, and estranging the affections and loyalty of the people. I consider, Sir, that the time is come, when with reference to this subject you must adopt an altered policy, and I think an improved policy. It was the habit of this and other countries to provide they should have a jealous mono• poly of the commerce and the productions of the colonies, and that the colonies should be obliged to take the exclusive productions and manufactures of the mother country. I believe no country was more jealous in this respect than Spain. Spain had a vast colonial em pire, and yet at the end of a century and a half after she had acquired that empire, we find Sir Robert Wal pole stating to this House, upon the question of Spanish trade with Spanish America and the Spanish West Inches, that the greater part of 'the goods sought to be introduced to Europe would belong not to Spaniards, but to foreign countries. Such, Sir, was the result of a rigid and exclusive system, without the energy and freedom of a commercial empire. My belief is, that if you support the proposition of the Government, that the colonies will gain, and not suffer, by this great change in your policy. I believe that the cultivation of sugar itself will be improved to a great extent—( Hear, hear)—when the colonists know that they must compete in the markets of the mother country with the productions of other countries.—( Cheers.) I believe that they will derive great energy from being allowed to seek where they like for the cheapest products of the other countries of the globe. And, Sir, recollect that }ou do not part with th a t great advantage—that neither in this country should we ever impose differential duties against the colonies, nor should the co lonies impose differential duties as against us. It isa commerce se cure in war as well as inpeace —a commerce which is not exposed to the danger of conflicting tariffs, but which is regulated solely by a view of what is for the benefit of all. The colonists derive, I think, great advantage in being connected with this country, having the advantage of all the skill and the accumulated capital of this company and this empire has an immense advantage in the loyalty, the power and the assistance of the colonists. But these colonists must hereafter not exist on the limited and restricted system of former days that limited and restricted system must be acknowledged to be erroneous. Our principles must be altered. I believe that both the mother country and the colonies would flourish all the more for the abolition of useless restrictions—that after some period of mur muring, perhaps, its advantage will be acknowledged ; but in this country, and in the magnificent possessions which belong to us, it will be acknowledged that we have hitherto been mistaken in the value of the policy which has been adopted, and an affection will be all the stronger when neither is subject to re strictions, except those imposed upon the other.--( Hear, hear.) When the colonies are neither obliged to submit to some restriction for some supposed bene fit to the mother country, nor the mother country deprived of the benefit of some of the choicest pro ductions of the globe for some interests to be favoured at the expense of an important policy. I trust the colonial empire of this country is an empire of which every statesman of this country must justly be proud—to which the people of this country justly attach the highest value. I trust that when this better system has been adopted, we shall see those colonies increase and flourish—that we shall be proud of them as our possessions, and enjoying the liberty which we have given them, and that both may flourish for long years together. Sir, I shall now tn:these f t u the re adopted, coon ne w h y i s pr e o h t p r n eux i erttdtcoee,h9nblius: Isiteeh, some the duties,t noaokvatf e h ut. ah o donsei t present reoeueo: idss nee ot willa iftnthr Pe e ; N Cs tableoo l Committee. t m i resolution f or the . resolution,e th continuance trust thet a resolutions will hereafter be adopted, and that they will n r i o i Parliament; mtr have a n , vte; howeverartnddm shouldnsishoerrte administered they be affairs . be •01,9;11ilitecylichitostedthbe); country.—(Hear, ;t o ng D—g(Hiles resolution Mr. HUME would rather see the House sit much lon g er than usual than see the settlement of a question of such vast importance delayed a day longer. He hoped that the proposals of the Noble Lord would be adopted by the House, but he at the same time must say that the laws at present existing as to the use of sugar in breweries were most absurd, and he hoped that the Noble Lord would embody a reform on that subject in his present comprehensive plan. He entirely approved of the Noble Lord's intention to abolish, if possible, the anomaly at present existing as to sanctioning the admission of some slave and free produce, whilst on that of sugar there were differential or protective duties, which, as had been truly said, did not benefit the country. When the question of the sugar duties had been settled to the satisfaction of the Noble Lord, he (Mr. Hume) considered that this session might terminate, leaving an impression on the minds of the House that it was the greatest session within their memory. Mr. HENLEY condemned the proposal of the Noble Lords' plan as a most unjust one, and said that-if it was carried out we should have free -trade not only in corn but in everything else.—( Laughter. ) Mr. RICARDO hoped that the equalisation of the sugar duties would not be delayed for five years, and if the Noble Lord persisted in proposing the resolutions as they at present stood, he should feel it his duty on Friday next to propose ati amendment to limit the period of equalisation. Mr. WAKLEY replied to some remarks that had fallen from the Noble Lord, the member for Lynn ( Lord G. Ben tinck ) as to protection, and contended that the principle of protection on which that Noble Lord had se eloquently dwelt, had led to the most ruinous consequences. He had not for gotten the observations which had been made a few years since in that House, upon the introduction of the Hiil Coolies into the West Indies. The House should paus .3 before they passed his measure; a considerable quantity of labourers were to be introduced into the West Indies, to break down the claims of hose unfortunate beings who were now employed there. He hoped, therefore, that the Noble Lord at. the head of the Government would recon sider this part of his proposition, and protect these unfortunate labourers from the merciless, cold-blooded' specu lators who traded in human flesh, and who kidnapped the un fortunate Hill Coolies for the purpose of importing them into the West Indies, in order to beat down the prices of the libe rated negroes. The House would not do its duty if they did not oppose this part of the project. Sir H. INGLIS said that he must remind the House that they were not pledged at all to the merits of the measure, but at a future time they would express their opinions on the subject, Sir DE LACY EVANS contended that the term" un fortunate" applied to the West Indian labourers by the Hon. Member for Finsbury was not appropriate, for they were the best paid of any class of workmen in the world. They were so well off indeed that they could not be got to work. He thought that the Noble Lord had acted wisely in limiting the term of equalisation of duties to five years. Lord G. BENTINCK, in answer to the Hon. Member for Finsbury, said, that the Noble Lord at the head of the Government had no sympathy whatever with cold-blooded, merciless, or cruel speculators • and the labourers who w ou ld b e introduced into th e W es t Indies would be amply protected. Mr. CFIAPMAN said, that the Hill Coolies who had been formerly imported into the West Indies, had gone back to their native country with money in their pockets, and in every other respect they were both comfortable and i.appy. Sir W. JAMES wished to know whether the Noble Lord at the head of the Government was prepared to lay upon the table of the House any papers tending to show that one shilling was a proper sum to be considered as a differential duty between free and slave-grown sugar. Lord SANDON wished for some further information on the question of slave-grown sugar, before he could pronounce an opinion upon the proposed measure. From what he had heard, and what he at present knew of the subject, ho thought the proposition was not at all calculated either to improve the revenue, or to benefit the consumer or the grower. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, with reference to laying on the table of the House any return as to the amount of differential duties, he did not think he could by any returns afford any information sufficiently explicit for the Hon. Member (Sir W. Janes). The Hon. Member also made some remarks in answer to Lord Sandon, the purport of which did not reach the gallery. Mr. P. BORTHWICK thought that ' higher protec tion should be afforded to the West Indian colonies. Lord J. RUSSELL said it was not the intention of Govern ment to allow an y labourers to be imported into th e W est Indian 'n Africa or Asia, w h ere t h ere colonies from an y part either I were not British settlements. This precaution had been adopted by her Majesty's G o vernment, in o r d er to prevent a revival in any degree of the slave trade. Ho was not inclined g to draw the distinction between slave and free-grown sugar. r The CHAIRMAN then put the resolution, which was carried, and ordered to be reported on Wednesday next. The House then resumed. SUPPLY. Mr. WARD then moved tha t th e House go into a Corn. mittee of Supply. Mr. WILLIAMS rose to draw the attention of the House to the practic e o f flo g ging s ailors, and to the manner in which courts-martial are constituted in tne B ritish navy, 'the re was no appeal from t h e judgment of a court-mar tial. In the army there was h a d every pro complete protection against viol enc e. The civilian, also, pro to the Mere, of the Crown. tection. He might aeptal But for the poor sailor there was nu appeal either for Morey or against an u n j us t j u d gme ht, and he felt qu i te sure that if these circumstances were generally known the country would not permit such hardships to be inflicted upon a body ill Whom they peculiarly looked for protection. The system of flogging in the navy was, he considered, most dangerous, and which, if it were not altered, might bring fbriot's e•cfnm eott a 'rites upon the country. Form er ly any co mmander could t i e Up titian and inflict any punishment it was his will and pleasure to do. But what was the present system with regard to this infamous punishment—the most degrading that could he suffered by any man —and which had broken the hearts of men. Why, under the present system the lashes were confined to forty-eight, which he was assured was equal to two hundred in the army. Many naval officers said more, and common sense points out th at such must be the case. In the army the lashes were given with a small twine, and very often by a drummer boy ; but it was otherwise in the navy ; the punishment was inflicted with a thickish cord, and by the stoutest man in the ship, generally the boatswain ; and he had been assured that after the first blow the blood streamed from every pore.—(Hear, hear.) He did hope that the public would take up the protection o From the sth of July, 1846, to sth of July, 1847 2ls. ••• 1847, to sth of July, 1848 2os. ••• 1848, to sth of July, 1849 lBs. 6d. .• 1849, to sth of July, 1850 l7s. 1850, to sth of July, 1851 lss. 6d. 1851, to sth of July, 1852, that a duty of l4s. should apply to all Muscovado sugar five years from the sth of July, 1847. Now, Sir, I say nothing here of the propriety or advantage that might be derived from a still further reduction of 14s. per cwt. Ido not think that, considering this in operation— that it is to be continued over five years—considering also the present state of the revenue, of which I shall have something to say before I conclude, and considering the present state of the Government, I do not think it would be right for us, on any specula tion, to ask for any considerable reduction beyond this, and especially when it is bor ne i n m i nd the reductions which had been made by the Right Hon. Gentleman last year. Now, I should say that with respect to the distinction that was made last year as to clayed sugar, it is quite true that I have shown by analogy, that that was not overrated with respect to the sugars to which it was proposed to be ap plied. I find with regard, to Havan na h sugar, that there is white, or white clayed sugar, of which the price is more than 4s. I have only to state at present that in the Bill which I shall have the honour to lay on the table of the House I propose to keep up the distinction of last year. I do this on the grounds I have stated. I have not been able to ascertain all the information I could have wished on the subject, and therefore, with regard to that part of the plan which may be affected by subsequent information, I will not too minutely enter. Sir R. PEEL—On all clayed sugars? Lord J. RUSSELL—On all clayed sugar?. There is a 3 imilar re . !uetion, from year to year, ot, the sogar and on the doubl e re fi ne d sugar , an d I nee d h ar dly, I think, ent er into the details, but at once lay the list on the table of the House. The reduction is in similar proportions to WOO ;lido Q 4 tho abet ppm yilth l'orrect W _ _ THE SUN, ` LONDON, _TUESDAY EVENING, JULY 2l, 1846. these unfortunate beings, who had neither just judge or jury. —(Hear, hear.) Hon. Gentlemen seemed to make very merry on this question, but he would just read to I them some extracts from a pamphlet which he held in his hand, in which it was stated, that for a most trivial fault it , was customary to tie the sailor to a mast, either in cold ' or scorching weather, and leave him exposed for several hours —or oblige him to run up and down the rigging under a scorching sun—or condemn him to wear a wooden collar for days and nights together—or inflict upon him the brutal punishment of the lash ; and all this might be done without even th e f orma ities of a trial.--(clear, hear.) All those acquainted Nith the proceedings on board of ship must know that nearly all the mutinies that had taken place in the navy have had their origin in this practice of flogging. But the important question they had to ask themselves was, was this system of flogging necessary? He had had commu nications on the subject with many officers in the navy, and their general opinion was, that flogging, except in very extreme cases, was not necessary. And if so—if there were cases in. which flogging might be considered necessary—then he main tained there ought to be a provision for a court martial to adjudicate punishment. And who were the parties who were in the practice of resorting to flagging in the navy ? Not the old and experienced officers, but those who were called mar tinets, who were exceedingly fastidious on the point of discip line, and who perhaps did not well know what the duties of an old sailor were. It was well known that Nelson abhorred flogging, and only resorted to it in extreme cases ; and that that great man, Napoleon, abolished flogging when he came into supreme power. The reason why, as stated by the Hon. and Gallant Member (Sir Charles Napier), they had inferior seamen in the navy was this abominable practice of flogging. Out of 110,000 men in the United States navy and merchant service, not more than 20,000 were citizens of America ; the greater number were Englishmen who had been attracted to that service on account of the superior treatment they re ceived and the system adopted in the British navy. He en treated the present Government calmly and dispassionately to consider this question, and afford a remedy ; especially he trusted that the principle of a court-martial would be adopted. He hoped that redress would be afforded, so that he should not have again to bring the question before the House. Mr. WARD would beg to remind the 'Hon. Member and the House that the present Admiralty had only come into office on Monday last, and therefore had not had time to con sider the question. He hoped, therefore, the point would not be pressed by the Hon. Member at present. It could not be denied, and, in fact, the Hon. Gentleman had himself ad mitted it, that it was impossible to keep large bodies of men in a' fit state of discipline without punishment of some kind, and which would sometimes have to be of a severe character. He ' (Mr. Ward) was glad to say that a great improvement had taken place in regard to the punishment of flogging within the last few years.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") In 1832, out of 34,000, the cases of severe punishment were 2,000; in 1845, out of 40,000 men, the cases were but 1,200.—( Hear, hear.) The Hon. Member might rest assured that nothing would be left undone by the present Admiralty to do away with arbitrary and undue punishment, and to bring into opera tion moral and elevating influences instead.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. HUME hoped they would, as far as possible, modify the rules and punishments in the navy, so that they might har monise more than they now did with the spirit of the age. Sir GEORGE COCKBURN said, it was quite impossible that the efficiency and discipline of the navy could be preserved without the power of inflicting corporeal punishment in cases of misconduct on the part of the sailors, and he for one was therefore decidedly opposed to its abolition. In the event of the punishment being unnecessarily severe, there was a court of appeal for the sailor, but instances of severity seldom or never occurred, owing,_ as he contended, to the majority of the commanders being averse to the system of always having re course to corporeal puni,hment.—( Hear, hear.) Still, how ever, he was of opinion, that if they took the power from them, there would be an end to the present efficiency and discipline of the service.—( Hear, hear.) Sir C. NAPIER suggested that, after the explanation they had heard from the Gallent Admiral, the Hon. Member for Coventry ought not to persevere in his motion, but he could not go so far as the Gallant Admiral in his admiration or estimation of corporeal punishment. What he found fault with in the system was this, that the articles of war gave the captain the power of inflicting the punishment without having recourse to a court-martial.—( Hear, hear. ) Admiral DUNDAS thought it would be almost impossible to carry on the business of the navy without inflicting corporeal punishment.—( Hear, hear.) Captain PECHELL was not opposed to continuing the power, but he certainly was an advocate for its being used in a moderate manner, and only in extreme cases, when other modes of punishment had failed.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. TRELAWNEY urged upon Government the necessity of increasing the pay of the sailors engaged in the navy. Some people thought dread of the lash kept efficient seamen out of the service, but in his opinion it was the low pay, and not the lash. —(Hesr. hear.) Lord INGESTRE said the commander of a ship in her Majesty's service had a good deal of responsibility on his shoulders, and it was indispensably necessary that he should be invested with the power of inflicting corporeal punishment where the exigencies of the case required it.—( Hear, hear.) He hoped that nothing would he done to destroy that good feel ing which at present prevailed in the army and navy. VAN DIEMEN'S LAND. On the question that the Speaker do now leave the chair, Mr. EWART moved " That it is expedient that the prac tice of making Van Diemen's Land a general receptacle for convicts should cease, and that transportation be discontinued." The present system entailed the most awful consequences on the people of that country. At the present moment the con vict population was about 34,000, whilst the free population was only 30,030. Now, the result was, that there was a most fearful contamination, and the free people were not safe eitler in or out of doors. Many of the free people had openly said that they would rather see their children die before their eyes than see them continue to grow up amongst the convict po pulation. Now there was a system which might gradually remedy the evil, and that was this, that the convicts of this country should be imprisoned here for the terms to which they might be sentenced, and at the expiration conveyed away to some colony, where they might be free to follow those pro fessions to which they had been brought up. That system had been adopted as regarded Port Philip, and the results were most satisfactory ; the rclesqed convicts wcra gradually mado honoat and industrious. Instead of accumulating our convicts into one spot, he contended that they should be punished here, and afterwards dispersed throughout our different colonies. The annals of our colonies loudly called upon us to bestir ourselves on this bead ; they showed that our present system was productive of the most frightful results. The system which he recommended was al ready adopted and approved of in France. He would forego going into this subject at any great length, in consequence of the late period of the session, as well as the change of the Go vernment ; but he trusted, that briefly as he had called the at tention of the Government to this subject, they would take it into their most serious consideration. The motion having been put, Sir GEORGE GREY admitted that this subject was one which deserved the most earnest attention of the Government. Something was now in the course of being done to remove the evils of which the Hon. Gentleman bad justly complained, and le hoped, that in the space of about two years, the good effects of those efforts would begin to manifest themselves. with regard to the second proposition, it could not be supposed that her Majesty's Government were in a vosition at present to give any answer upon the subject. In - theory he entirely agreed with the Hon. Member for Dumfries. The question of punishment was one of the most difficult with whieh a Government could deal. But the Hon. 'Member might rest assured that the subject would receive the best consideration of her Majesty's Government. Lord H. VANE made a few remarks, which were perfectly inaudible in the gallery. Mr. HOPE said that an alteration had been made in the system of transportation by his Noble Friend ; religious im provement had been made among them ; several directions were sent out for the classification and assignment of the con victs. There were great difficulties attendant upon dealing with this complicated question, and the plan proposed by the Hon. Member for Dumfries was one which could not be con veniently carried out. Mr. HUME considered that to attr mpt reformation in this country would be to bring upon this country all the evils complained of in the settlements to which the convicts were now sent; he thought that education would be the most proper mode of removing and preventing crime. Mr. HAWES assured the House that the attention of her Majesty's Government should be directed to the subject of transportation to Van Diemen's Land. After a few remarks from Mr. Hope (in explanation), Mr. Hawes, and Mr. Ewart, the motion was withdrawn. THE NAVY. On the motion for going into a Committee of Supply, Sir C. NAPIER rose to put a question to the Admiralty, respecting the cost of building, repairing, and pulling down the vessels lately built. He thought if the Government had spent more money in manning the navy than in building ships, the navy would have been in a much more efficient position. Since 1843 he saw by a return from the Admiralty (and he was sorry to say these returns were not very correct), they had launched two ships of the line, six frigates, and fourteen steamers, and they had now on the stocks six 92-gun ships, five 84-gun ships, three 50-gun frigates, four 26-gun frigates, and a number of small vessels. With such an enormous navy on the water, what was the use of constructing these enormous I ships, when, if they had a war, they could not man the half of them in three years ? What e Government ought to do was to turn their attention to getting more seamen, and putting them on a proper foundation. They might as well say, that when they had a great many barracks and forts they had a tine army, as to boast of the number of their ships, and declare they had a fine navy. Seeing the number of ships that had been laid down, he (Sir C. Napier) thought we were in a most unfortunate position. The reports relative to the squadron which had been sent to sea were extremely unfavourable as far as the sea-going qualities of these ships were concerned. And yet we had an enormous number of ships on the stocks exactly of the same calibre and dimensions, and, as he expected, with the same faults. He found also that six 74-gun ships, which the late B oar d o f Ad m i ra l ty ca l led b lock-ships, were some in the Kin g ' s y ar d s , and seine in merchants' yards, to be tilted with screws an d t o carr y f or t y guns ; and he wiled to know if it were prudent for any Board of Admiralty to do this to such an extent without having made a trial? If these block-ships did not suceee,l, what then would be the use of them? Casting his eye through the navy estimates, he ob served a sum of 18,0001. for repairs of steam goat d-ships ; but he had no hesitation in saying that one of those ships would cost all the money that was put down for the repairs of the whole. The Retribution and Avenger would be perfect men 'of-war, but after building paddle-box boats for them, the con structor came forward and said that they could not carry the boats, and they were therefore taken out and sent to store. He hoped that what he had directed attention to would induce his lion. Friends at the Board of Admiralty to pay a little more at tention to the subject of construction. At present we were at an enormous expense, increasing the navy without having first ascertained whether the new ships would answer or not. He admitted that the late Government had done much for the sailor in the way of improving his food, but he wanted to know what that or any other Government had done towards manning the navy on an emergency. A good deal was done last session in passing the Registration Bill, but it had defects, and he hoped the present secretary would take early steps to remove them. He would recommend, after the registration had been rendered complete, that Government should call all the seamen! of the country out by presses, Immediately after a young man had served his apprenticeship on board of a mer. chantman, he should be taken on board one of her Majesty's ships, and having served a short while there, lie should be allowed to return to the merchant service. If this system were adopted, the navy would always be efficient, while, on immer gencies, it could be manned with skilful and experienced mariners without the least difficulty. (Hear, hear.) He believed that n.thing would'so much raise the hopes of the seamen of this country es the establishment by the Board of Admiralty of a seaman's home at Plymouth, where their more;:, health, and bellies would be provided for. Unless some one not a' Member of the Admiralty were appointed to the building of the shipit, he was sure things would always go wrong. The duties of the present head of that department were too numerous to allow him properly to discharge his duty, and involved in the end the useless expenditure of a large sum of money annually. He hoped that a proper Board of Con struction would be appointed, who should sit in London, and whose number should consist of three able men. Those men would have the opportunity of considering all plans on subjects connected with the navy shipbuilding. Having thanked the House for the attention which they had paid to him, the lion. Gentleman concluded his observations. Mr.. WARD hoped that the Hon. and Gallant Member W 01414 ealeW the 1i 01450 to go iato_a Committee of Supply, • The subjects referred to by the Hon. and Gallant Member would be duly attended to. Mr. HU.II - E deprecated the system of changing the members of the Board of Admiralty with the change of the Govern ment. fie also deprecated the perpetual system of crying down our navy. He really thought that discus , ions of this sort did the country very great injury.—( Hear, hear.) Lord IN GESTRE considered that the lion. and Gallant Member had acted very properly in bringing the state of the navy before the House. He ( Lord Ingestre) had often im. pressed upon the House the necessity of appointing a Board of Constructicn. He protested against the present system of lavish expenditure on the part of the Admiralty. The men of-war that had been recently built were clearly disgraceful to those who were concerned in the construction of them. He had, on a former occasion, asked for a full report of the character of the different men-of- war that had been built and sent out during the past few years. —( Hear. hear.) That report had not been produced. and he often called upon the Government to produce such a report. He was of opinion that there should be more than one surveyor of the navy. He must certainly compliment the late Board on having appointed a Committee of Reference, which he believed was a step in the right direction. But even that step was a mere instalment. He hoped the Board would pro ceed in their present course of reform. They had also re established the school of naval architecture ; that was another step in the right direction.—( Hear, hear. ) But the Govern.. ment he hoped would find it to be expedient to reform that school, by opening it to the best talent of the country. The sum that had been expended in the construction of her Majesty s yacht was perfectly frightful ; had there been a proper system in operation, that would not have been the case. In this man ner the country were con'tantly throwing away the money of the public instead of applying it to more useful reforms and a more efficient navy. Admiral DUNDAS said that the Government had now a number of frigates and vessels better manned than they had ever been at any time. Admiral 13015'LES also made some statements to the same effect. Mr. M. GORE wished to call the attention of the Govern ment to the necessity of affording the means of education and a home to the British sailor. SUPPLY. The House then went into a Committee of Supply. On the motion of Mr. WARD, the sum of 394,7201. was voted for the navy estimates. Captain PECHELL said that 267 letters had been sent in, requesting retirement under the proposed regulations of the late Board. Those regulations had not been carried into effect, and he thought it but a matter of justice that those letters should be returned, etherwise they might prejudice their claims to active service, should these regulations not be carried into effect. Mr. WARD thought that upon a future occasion the House would have a more favourable opportunity for entering into the de'ails and merits of the question. Captain FITZROY made some remarks in explanation of the late attempt to form a new system of retiring allowances for the officers of the navy. The vote was then agreed to. A vote of 705,445/. was next proposed to provide for half pay officers, and the officers of the royal marine. This vote was also agreed to. Sir R. H. INGLIS wished to bring forward his motion, of which he had given notice, respecting the Museum estimates. Mr. HUME proposed that the chairman do report progress. It was then half-past twelve o'clock, and it would take him half an hour to explain his objection to the vote ; one ground of his complaint was, that the library was neglected ; another, that the members of the committee did not attend to the re commendations of the Committee of that House ; there were several other grounds of objection which he would not now go into. The CsIA after some discussion between Sir H. In-_ glis and Mr. Hume, then reported progress, and obtained leave to sit again on Wednesday. The Tenants Compensation Ireland Bill went through Com mittee proli)rina. The Wreck and Salvage Bill was postponed till Thursday next. --- The Newfoundland Bill was postponed till Monday next. CLERKS OF THE CROWN, &c. (IRELAND) BILL. This Bill was postponed to the same day. EXCLUSIVE PRIVILEGE OF TRADING ABOLITION (IRELAND) BILL. This Bill was committed pro forma, for the purpose of in troducing amendments. ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE BILL. This Bill was withdrawn. BOOKS AND ENGRAVINGS BILL. This Bill was read a second time. SUPPLY. The report of the Committe on Supply was then brought up and agreed to. SHANNON NAVIGATION BILL. Th is Bill was read a second time. COMMONS INCLOSURE (No. 0 ) BILL. On the motion that the House resolve itself into Committee on this Bill, Mr. BROTHERTON said he thought that this Bill should not be proceeded with at so late, an hour (one o'clock). Lord LINCOLN was very much opposed to it. The House, however, went into Committee on the Rill. The clauses with some amendments were agreed to, and the report ordered to be brought up on Wednesday next. ORDNANCE SURVEY BILL. This Bill was then read a third time and passed. PRISONS (IRELAND) BILL. This Bill was read a second time. FISHERIES (IRELAND) BILL. On the motion that this Ifni be read a second time, CaptainJONES gave notice of his intention to oppose it in Committee. The Bill, after a few observations, was read a second time. Mr. BROTHERTON said there were some other Irish Bills, and as it was then half-past one o'clock, he should move that the House do adjourn. THE MILITIA. Mr. F. MA ULE obtained leave to bring in a Bill to sus pend for a limited time the making of lists and ballots for the enrolment of the militia in the United Kingdom. The same RIGHT Hos. GENTLEMAN also moved the ap pointment of a Select Committee to prepare the militia sche dules, which was agreed to. SUNDAY TRADING. Mr. HINDLEY having moved for leave to bring in a Bill to suppress Sunday trading, Mr. WARBURTON said he had no notion that his Hon. Friend would have moved for leave to bring in a Bill for the better observance—(Laughter)—of the Sabbath at so late an hour, and as he was decidedly opposed to such a Bill, he should move the House do now adjourn. Mr. HINDLEY consented to withdraw his motion for the present. CORONERS' (IRELAND) BILL. The Lords' amendments to this Bill having been considered and adopted, The 'louse adjourned at Two o'clock. NAVAL INTELLIGENCE. PORTSMOUTH, SUNDAY.—The Royal Yacht, Victoria and Albert, is now ready for service, and on inspection we cannot grumble at the time she has occupied in refitting. She is in as perfect order as it is possible for any craft to appear in. Her decorations exhibit a display of the most refined taste, yet have comfort and convenience been most amply studied. A more beautiful vessel, or one more complete in all her ap pointments, there cannot be afloat, and it is but bare justice to Commander Crispin ( who has made her what she is) to state that he well deserves his pest, and that honour, which we have no doubt will be conferred upon him for his thought ful consultation of his Sovereign's pleasure, comfort, and con venience—her Majesty's thanks. Both the royal yachts are going to Liverpool to attend upon the Prince Consort ; the Fairy will convey the Court from Osborne to Gosport to-morrow on the return to London. On Thursday morning, about seven o'clock, as a man named James Bradford, seaman, was casting loose the frap ping of the jolly-boat on the starboard quarter of the Naiad, 46-gun frigate, in ordinary in this harbour, under the com mand of Lieut. J. W. Finch (186), the boat swung or heeled over, and the man fell over the bows into the water, at a time when the tide was running with unusual strength out of harbour, and the wind blowing nearly half a gale. The cry of " a man overboard " was instantly raised, when Lieu tenant Finch, who was in his cabin dressing at the time, looking out, saw the man struggling in the tide, threw off what few garments encumbered him, and plunged through the port into the water, at which time Bradford had sunk twice, and was going at a rapid rate from the ship, being no swimmer. Mr. Finch, however followed, and per • severed in his humane endeavour to save the man's life, in which he happily succeeded, after being in the water a quar ter of an hour, and got his man (to all appearance dead) on board a victualling hoy-boat, which was going from the Clarence yard to the ship with a supply of water. The com mon remedies were applied, and the man is now perfectly recovered and doing duty on board his ship. Lieutenant Finch was much bruised and torn in plunging naked through the port-hole and clearing the side of his ship. This is not the first time Mr. Finch has similarly risked his own life to save that of his fellow-creatures, although he is married and has a young family looking up to him for support. He has seen considerable service in the navy, and especially during the last war under that distinguished Admiral Sir B. Hallowell Carew on the ceast of Spain and Catalonia, while serving in the Fame, 74, and in the gun-boats manned by that ship during the siege of Tarragona. As the late Board of Admiralty promoted Lieutenant Tatham, of the Raleigh, to the rank of Commander, for saving the life of a seaman who fell overboard at Chatham, a few months since, No sincerely trust the present Board will mark their sense of the services and gallantry of Lieutenant Finch, by rewarding him in a similar manner. The court-martial ordered to assemble yesterday morning on board the Victory, to try Mr. Sanderson, of the Dasher, for absenting himself from duty without leave, was deferred until Tuesday morning. The Hampshire Telegraph states, that " Orders have been received to assemble a court-martial on board the Victory, in this harbour, on the arrival of the America, 50, now on her way to England from the Pacific, with an enormous freight, to try Captain the lion., J. Gordon for leaving that station without orders. This order for a court-martial ema nated from the late Board of Admiralty. Captain Gordon is brother of the Noble Lord the late Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, The Daphne, 18, Captain Onslow, has been ordered by Admiral Sir G. Seymour to take this specie from Valparaiso to England." We believe it is ordered that quarter-masters are, after less than five years' service as such, to be allowed to retire upon 3.;.. per diem ; after upwards of live years, upon ss. ; after upwards of fifteen years, ss. 6d. after upwards of twenty years, upon 6s. ; after more than twenty-five years, upon 7s. ; and after above thirty years, upon Ss. These officers entitled to the four last-mentioned rates must have served ten years as quarter-master. After thirty years' ser vice the right of retirement is to be absolute. The paymasters and pursers of less than three years' standing, are, in future, to receive the same half-pay - as at present ; after above five years' service, they will receive 6s. per diem ; above ten years, Bs. ; above fifteen years, 10s. ; above twenty years, 13s. ; and above thirty years, 15s. The Rochester lighter sailed y es t er day with stores for the eastern yards. APPOINTMENTS. Captains.—H. Stewart, C. 8., to be Acting Commodore Superintendent of Woolwich Dockyard, vice Captain Lord John Hay (appointed a Lord of the Admiralty), vice Captain Sir Francis Collier, C. 11., in command of the Channel squadron ; Sir W. 0. Pell, to be a Commissioner of Green wich Hospital. Commander.—W. N. Powell, to the Cherokee, steam-sloop, on the lakes of Canada. Lieutenants.—C. B. Strong, to the Recruit; G. W. Prealy, to the Trafalgar; J. M‘Neil Boyd, to the Eurydice; B. G. Cowles, to the Avenger; J. B. Willoughby, to the Cherokee; J. Tyssen, to the Mohawk; J. Harper, to the Minos. Master. —T. Brown (acting), to the Recruit. Surgeon.—C, Coffee, to the Recruit. Paymasters and Pursers.—T. Goddard (1793), to the Vic. tory ; U. H. L. Wise, to the Recruit. Matta..—R. H. Hallowes, from the Excellent to the Con- test. Assiritant-Surgeons.—C. Grier, to the Cherokee ; J. Forbes, to the Mohawk. Second Master.—J. Fiddes, to the Avenger. Clerks in Charge.--. 1. C. Riccalton, to the Cherokee; T. S. Reward, to the Mohawk. Masters' Assistants.—P. E. Moss, to the Caledonia. NAYAI BAWPg;9P) ;9 OW oilogert ~- ~ \_ ~~N COAST GUARD, Appointments.—Lieutenant Delany, to Ballymacaw Sta. , tion, in command ; Lieutenant H. A. Finncave, and Mr. J. C. Pegus, a retired officer of Royal Marines, to be in command of a station. • Removals.—Lientenaut J. Millet from Rosclare to Arklow'r ' l l .1 1% station ; Lieutenant Alexander from Carrickfergus to Casher d all; Lieutenant Campbell, R.N., from Blackhead to Carrickfergus; Lieutenant Harris, R.N., frozl Wells to Palling station. COURT CIRCULAR. The Queen and Prince Albert, the Prince of Wit*, Prince Alfred, the Princess Royal, the Princess Alice,. the Infant Princess, and the Prince of Leiningen, at tended by the Countess of Desart, the Dowager Lady Lyttelton, Colonel Bowles, Colonel Arbuthnot, and Li‘-ut.-Colonel Seymour left Osborne House, Isle of Wight, at teu minutes before two o'clock yesterday afternoon, crossed in the Fairy steam yacht to Gosport, and left by a special train for town. The august party proceeded from the terminus at Nine Elms, in four carriages and four, escorted by a party of hussars, to Buckingham Palace, where her Majesty and her Royal Consort were received by Lady Caroline Cocks, Hon. Miss Devereux, the Lord Steward, the Lord Chamberlain, the Master of the Horse, the Groom of the Stole to Prince Albert, the Vice-Cham berlain, Lord Byron, Lord George Lennox, Sir Henry Wheatley, Colonel Berkeley Drummond, and Captain Francis Seymour. The royal party arrived at the Palace at ten minutes before six o'clock. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent, Lady Au gusta Bruce, Baroness de Speth, and the Hon. and Rev. C. Leslie Courtenay joined the royal circle at Buckingham Palace at dinner yesterday evening. The band of the Scots Fusilier Guards was in attend ance at the Palace during dinner. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent, attended by Lady Augusta Bruce and Sir George Couper, ar rived at Clarence House, St. James's, at one o'clock yesterday afternoon, from Frogmore House, Windsor. Her Royal Highness afterwards visited her Royal High ness the Duchess of Cambridge at Cambridge House, Their Royal Highnesses the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, and the Hereditary Grand Duke and Grand Duchess of Meeklenburgh Strelitz, honoured the Duke of Devonshire with their company at dinner yes terday, at his residence in Piccadilly. A deputation from the London Missionary Society, consisting of Mr. T. M. Coombs (chairman), Mr. F. Smith, Rev. Arthur Tidman, and the Rev. J. J. Free man (secretaries), had an interview with Viscount Pal merston yesterday, at the Foreign-office. The Marquis of Queensberry had an interview with Sir George Grey yesterday, at the Home-office. Mr. Labouchere had an interview with the Right Hon. Baronet. Mr. John Wood, chairman of the Excise, had an in terview with the Chancellor of the Exchequer yester day, at his official residence in Downing-street. Sir George Grey returned to town yesterday morning. Mr. and Lady Mary Abercromby left Farrance's Hotel yesterday for the seat of Lord Dunfermline, in Shetland. ADELPHI THEATRE. A one-act extravaganza anent Railways and Stags and Ibrahim Paella was produced last evening at the Adelphi with complete success. It is entitled Abraham Parker, and Wright, albeit a sham Ibrahim, is the true Abraham. He is a large shareholder in the Poole line ; he is informed that the Bill is thrown out, and that he is ruined ; and disgu'sing himself in a masquerade dress, he levants to Bristol. The worthy lieges of the metropolis of the west take Abraham Parker for Ibrahim Pacha. Deputations wait upon his Highness—the mayor and corporation speechify to him—ladies make love to him, and he becomes, much to his own annoyance, a regular Lion, " the observed of all observers," more paricularly of the police and th e auVlorities ; a most annoying situation for a gentleman whose personal safety requires that for a while at least his name " Should rest in the shade." It is needless to say that the fun grows fast and furious. The situations are all richly humourous, and Wright knows exactly how to make such situations tell. At length it is discovered that it is the Goole and not the Poole Bill that is thrown out, and the Poole shares are at a premium ; whereupon Young Egypt returns to the Stock Exchange, and Old Bristol remains static quo. The lau;hter was continuous ; from the rise of the curtain until the fall there was one unceasing roar, and therefore there can be no doubt but that Abraham Parker will visit Bristol every evening for some time to come. MUSICAL GOSSIP. Henri Herz, the distinguished pianist and celebrated composer, intends visiting America in the autumn. He will start on the 25th of September from Liverpool, and will make a tour of the United States. Madame Per siani is engaged for two years by the impresario of the opera at Madrid. Molique states, in a letter from Stutt g-ard, dated July 9, that he proposes visiting London with his daughter (a clever pianist) early next season. There is some talk at her Majesty's Theatre of an en gagement of twelve nights with Carlotta Grisi, and a revival cf the pus de quatre. This would be a politic step on the part of the management. Re port says that Mr. Lumley has purchased for England the right of performing the much talked of new opera of Rossini.-11fusical World. Moriani has quitted Seville, where he had been performing for some time past, and is about to visit France ; but previous to his doing so, lie will give several representations at Bar celona. Ole Bull, the " Norwegeian Paganini," is now at Marseilles, were he is giving a series of concerts to crowded audiences. Donizetti is still in France. His not having yet returned to his native place in Italy is not owing to any physical inability to undertake so long a journey, but is the result of peculiar circumstances in no way connected with the state of his mental or phy sical health. A new ballet has been produced at the Academie Royale de Musique, called Betty. It is founded upon a supposed galanterie between Charles 11, and Betty, the daughter of the landlord of the Grand Admiral. The first appearance of Mdlle. Fouco created a great sensation among the habitues of the opera, and she promises to become no unworthy rival of some of the first choregraphic artistes of the day.—Sunday Times. SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. TATTERSALL I S.—YESTERDAY. The business transacted yesterday was very limited, and may be dismissed with a brief notice. It was almost en tirely confined to the few favourites for the Goodwood Stakes, the other horses mentioned having been backed for such small sums as scacely to merit a quotation. Jonathan Wild was decidedly first favourite, 7 to 1 having been taken freely, while similar odds, although laid in several instances against The Hero were always offered. The St. Leger and Derby betting was almost nominal. GOODWOOD STAKES. 7 to 1 agst Mr. O'Brien's Jonathan Wild—taken 7to 1 agst Mr. J. Day's The Hero—t. and aft. offered 9 to 1 agst Lord G. Bentinck's Camera Obscura— taken 10 to 1 agst Mr. Irwin's Connaught Ranger—taken 20 to 1 agst Mr. Greville's Morilla filly 25 to 1 agst Mr. Griffiths's Newcourt 25 to 1 agst Sir J. B. Mill's Giantess 25 to 1 agst Mr. S. Herbert'a Petitioner 30 to 1 agst Capt. Harcourt's Druid 30 to 1 agst Mr. R. Boyce's Bold Archer 33 to 1 agst Mr. Parr's Teetotaller—taken 35 to 1 agst Sir G. lleathcote's Akbari GOODWOOD CUP. 4 to 1 agst Mr. O'Brien's Grimstou—take 5 to 1 8 to 1 agst Duke of Richmond's Lothario. ST. LEGER. 5 to 1 on the Field 50 to 1 agst Mr. L. Fox's The Wrestler—taken 50 to 1 agst Mr. Creagh's Caurouch—taken 50 to 1 agst Lord Maidstone's Tom Tullock—taken Offers to take 20 to 1 about Fancy Boy. DERBY. 50 to 1 agst Lord G. Bentinck's Planet—taken 50 to 1 agst Lord Caledon's Cassandra colt—taken ROYAL HARWICH YACHT CLUB REGATToAn.Fri. HARWICH, SATURDAY.—This regatta e()Enniten u c t e „ d but, owing to Fri day, and was to have terminated on Saturday,. half a gale of the boisterous state of the wind from the sou tii.w7t a i ,, ! s t l ia ., ii i i. „ ., I was not sailed for on ,t y b e l e ° a wi r n u g nning, the cup presented by of J. M. pr same The. regatta c modore, W. Knight, Esq., Rear-Com adthe.erlert'ahlje management wils., IL3lI•. v j. , : t e ttw was w u el n nioaore, and the sailing committee. The attendance on Friday was very numerous and respectable, and the matches came off as follows :—A Piece of Plate, value 20 guineas, for yachts belonging to any royal yacht club, of any rig, not ex ceeding 13 tons, old measurement. No time for tonnage. Entrance 11. Name. Tons. Rigged. Owner. Ranger Wee Pet .. ...... 11 Quiz Phantom A good start was effected ; the Quiz first slipping her moorings, each vessel hoisting topsails, except the Phantom. The Ranger quickly led the way, the Quiz lying second, Wee Pet third, and the Phantom last, continuing in this order till they rounded the Cork Light, when a squall came on and dis masted the Quiz and Phantom, leaving the Ranger leading, who beat her then only antagonist, the Wee Pet, by eight minutes. A Cup, value 30 guineas for yachts belonging to the Royal ,on. lt o. of any tonnage or rig. Time r H ac a e r . wic T h h Y ir a t3 c , h s t e C co l n ub lydsopner ton. Name. Tons. Rigged. Owners. Secret.., Prima 25 Ino ......... 25 In this match the Ino laboured under great disadvantage, her mast being sprung. The Prima Donna took the lead closely followed by the Secret, the Inc, third, and in this order they continued round the course the first time, when the Ino gave up. In going over the course the second time the Secret gained oa the Prima half a minute, the Prima Donna still leading, and passed the Committee's boat two minutes before the Secret, when she bore up in consequence of a gun being fired, which the master of the Prima Donna thought was for the termination of the match. The Secret continued the course, and an objection was made to the Prima Donna receiving the prize, which will be entered into by the Committee. A purse of sovereigns for fishing-boats belonging to the port of Harwich. &c. Madcap Saucy Lass 2 Vesper 3 Turtle Robert For this match each boat was crowded with sail, there being no restriction ; and the Madcap took the lead, which she kept all the way round, being closely pursued by the Turtle, till she carried away her topmast; the Saucy Lass then taking second place, when she also carried away her topmast, the Madcap rounding the station first by five minutes. Several rowing matches took place during the day, and the regatta dinner took place in the evening, at the Three Cups Hotel, which was well attended. ACCIDENT FROM PLACING FLOWER-POTS IN Wm. , nows•—On Saturday afternoon, as Henry Applebee, a cur rier, residing in Short-street, Drury-lane, was passing thrcnigh Stanhope-street, Clare-market, his skull was fractured by a large flower-pot, that was blow down from a second Boor winduf by the high wind, He is pot expected to survive. -\•Cd l the c hed Er o us r bY 4 . oily° iaid •ing in- wa ~~ 11l