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~_ `~ I .~. . ~~r~ ~r~~~z~.,yx.~~ tir .Y ~~. -.)ered ...... , • _„.•=4,.,:,..,,,,_ '........" .....,,.... A........_ , : f.. ... , . j 0 a a 61 - --- ~, . , 7 2t , ' 4 l " 1 "' ... E .. _ //i. .2, A — it? Y - Pc-3 ft*,,tvit FRIDAY, JUNE 20, 1823. PRucE SEVENPENCt4 NUMBER 9617. ROYAL. ACADEMY, SOMERSET PLACE. T HE EXHIBITION of the ROYAL ACA DEMY is NOW OPEN. Admission (from Eight &Clock till Seven), Is. Catalogue, Is. HENRY HOWARD, ILA. Sec. , AW LIFE ASSURANCE SOCI ETY, 1.1411 Established for the puroose of granting ASSVR ANCES upon LIVES and SUKVIVOKSHIPS, or no' term or terms of years, absolutely or contingently determinable upon a Life or Lives. OFFICE—No. 58, LINCOLN'S INN FIELDS. TRUSTEES. Atebesot', Nathaniel, Esq. Great Winchester-street Atkinson, Thomas, Esq. Lincoln's Inn Fields Bicknell, Charles, Esq. Spring Gardens Green, William, Esq. Salisbury-square Pepys, Charles Christopher. Esq. Lincoln's Inn-square Scariest, James. Esq. M.P. Ismer Temple Williams, William, Esq. M.P. 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Those who continue insured in this Establishment seven years, upon annual as well as upon septennial Policies, and whether they have been claimants for losses or otherwise, share in the profits. These have pro ducedreturns of twenty-five and twenty per cent. invariably; and to 23,000 persons during the last nine years, a greater adVantage to the public than any other office now existing has afforded. IRON BEDSTEADS AND HURDLES. LEES, COTTAM, and lIALLEN, have on sale a great variety of Iron Bedsteads, with improved iron bottoms, viz. four,post, tent, French, and half-tester Bedsteads; stump Bedsteads for public institutions; also wiought4ron Hurdles, Gates, and Fencing. Invisible strained-wire Fencing; cast-iron Pallsading for Areas; light wrought-iron Fencing for cottages, Ornee, Bercesu, and Ornamental Garden Bordering, Garden Engines, Syringes, Carden•Rollers, &c. 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Published for the Editor by the Royal Harmonic Institu tion, and. sold at the Principal Music Shops throughout Eng land ; ar also by T. Greatorez, No. 70, Nortowstreet, Port land-place, London, where Nlusical Professors and Provincial Music Dealers aro requested to address their Orders, as nu allowance will he made at any other place. FOR WORMS, FITS, PAINS IN THE STOMACH, &c. ORMS are the Cause of many Internal Afflictions, which vary so much in their effects that they may be mistaken by the most eminent Physicians, and prove equally fatal to the Constitutions of Adults and Chil dren ; though the latter more extensively sutler from their deitructive ravages. 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FACTORY, No. 71, Corner of LEADENHA LEA STREET, London, opposite t:Sldgate Pump.-Read. Money Only. ir HE Society of Cabinet-Makers respectfully inform the Public that they still continue the above Establishment, for the Benefit of Industrious Mechanics who have large Familes, by offering them M anufactured Articles in the Cabinet Line, of the best Workmanship, and Cheaper than any . house can do in London by twenty-five per cent., there being no other p r ofit required on the Goods but the bar e house expences ; at the same time will he sufficiently satisfied with having constant Employment for themselves and families. This Society was Established in June, 1021, consisting of 20 Mechanics, adding the number of their Wives and Fami lies, amounted to 66; in June, 1819, five more were added to the Society; in June, 1820, 10; and in June 1821, 8. The total Number now receiving Support through the Means of this Establishment is 191. The Society and their Families beg leave to return their sincere thanks to those Ladies and Gentlemen who have hitherto honoured them with their Orders and Recommenda tions, and shall always fe el happy in their endeavours to give future satisfaction ; at the same time solicit a Continuanee of their Benevolence, whereby they may be enabled to increase the Number of the Society. The following Articles are inserted as a Specimen of the very Low Prices, all warranted. -Ready Money only. Full size Mahogany four - post Bedstead, lath bottom 31. 15s. -Full size tent Bedstead 11. N.-Bordered hair Mattress to fit 11. Is.-Mahogany Drawer, solid ends 31. 35.-Feather Bed 21.105.-Ditto, tree from dust and smell, full size 31. 10s.- Six japanned Chairs of any description in oil 11. Os.-Best do. 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Goods packed free of exppnce, except the materials, and sent to all parts of Great -Britain, and to the East and West In dies.--Captains fitted out, and merchants supplied with Ca binet Goods for Exportation. e ss -Apartments Furnished at a few hours' notice, and limes two or Mu days. PARLIAMENT. TIOUSS OF LORDS, :NNE 19. Lord BAntimit, introduced by Lords 6Astutzu. and CAL- T olt PE, took the oaths and his seat. Mr. Buooniert, Alr. Bitowar, and others, brought up the Scotland Confirmations Bill, the Beer Duties Bill, and the Brimstone Drawbacks Bill, from the Commons.—Read a first time. IRISH POOR. The Duke of LEINsTEn. presented a petition from the Members of the Hibernian Philanthropic Society of Dublin, praying their Lordships to take the state of Ireland into con sideration, as well as the means for giving employment to the Poor, and Mr. OWEN'S plan for that purpose. Lord CLARE supported the petition, and said that the ex tent of the sufferings of the Poor in Ireland was not known in this country.—The petition was then read and laid on the table. • LINEN TRADE. The Marquis of LANSDOWN presented a petition from certain Merchants and Individuals engaged in the Linen home and export trade in the City of London, against the Linen Trade Bill. The Earl of LIVERPOOL observed, that the object of the Bill was to take off all restrictions whatever. After a few words from Earl ROSSILY N, the petition was read and laid on the table. STATE OF IRELAI%iD. The Order of the Day_having been read, The Duke of DEVONSHIRE said, that he had not origi nally intended to occupy the attention of the House till the discussion which it had been expected would take place on the subject of Ireland should have come on. But fearing lest de lays in the other House might prevent it till it was too late to be effectual, he had felt that it would be a great misfortune to allow the Session to pass away without dedicating at least one night to the consideration of the state, the prospects, and the Government of Ireland. Relying, therefore, on the indulgence of the House, and the active support of his Noble Friends around him, he should undertake to draw their Lordships' attention to the affairs and sufferings of the Sister Kingdom. lie was the more inclined to take this step as he saw that the system of checking without exterminating evils, tinder which a country, so rich in natural advantages, and in the character of its inhabitants, had suffered so deeply, continued to be pursued. The existence of those evils showed how wrongly Ireland had been governed. When the people enjoyed a moderate share of the comforts of life, it would be found that acts of insubordination and violence were not corn mitt,d. Since the time of' Elizabeth the History of Ireland presented an unbroken series of petty Insurrections, and of measures of severity to repress them. It was now the duty . of Parliament to follow a more equitable course : to inquire into, the nature of the existing evils, and to devise weans for ap plying a speedy and eft'ectual remedy. It was a great re. • prosch upon its justice that it had passed severe laws whenever they had been required, without any attempt to prevent their necessity by a liberal and impartial It could not be denied that religious differences form one of the great causes of agitation in Ireland, and without some relaxation in the laws towards the Catholics it was impossible to hope for real and permanent tranquillity in that country. As long as a system of exclusion continued to exist, it could not fail to produce a degree of irritation which would circumscribe and defeat the beneficial tendency of salutary measures. The whole condition and practice of the Gofem ment in Ireland demanded a prompt and thorough investiga tion. It was impossible that the country should be at peace without a strict and impartial administration of justice. There was no advantage to be derived from an undecided and trim ming system, such as had been adopted. It was defended by saying that it gave a triumph to neither party ; that might be true, but its effect had been to offend both, and to create ge neral discontent. The truth was, that the Government of Ire land was almost entirely in the hands of that small minority who went under the name of Orangemen, who, conscious that they had no title to the affection or respect of the people whom they had so long misgoverned, feared it • as much as they were detested by it. Such a crisis must be met by something more vigorous than the doctrine that no triumph was to be iven to either party. As long as there should be one law for the Protestants, and one for the Ca tholics, it would be impossible to rely on the attachment of the people. The time was conic when a decisive step must be taken, and when Parliament must either give its at tention to the popular feeling in Ireland, or support that Go. vernment pinioned to the Irish - faction which had lost the con fidence of the people, and. had become odious. His Majesty's Ministers had pledged' themselVes last year to take the system of tythes into consideration, and as they had so air redeeme other'_ their pledge that a measure was i n p ro g ress through at e House, he should only say that he was mor e convinced than ever that to legislate on the subject was absolutely necessary for the tranquillity of the country, and the safety of the Protestant Established Church in Ireland. Ifhe were to state what in his opinion should be done, he should urge, first, concession to the, Catholics ; 2dly, an arrangement with a most respect to ant Thirty Tythes ; Sdly, the abridgment of the p ower of that Protest, which had so long p revailed in Ireland; and, lastly, vi. gilant attention to the administration of the laws. Measures were said to be in progress—let them be effective. Let them nut only - prune existing evils, but at. *nee command and suppress them. Much depended on the Government or Ireland, and he had conceived meat f the Noble Marquis at its head. He felt digit : pointed, however, great hopes at the appoint that the views of that Noble Lord ahnuld not have 'been communicated to the House. It was impos, sit* that that Alistinguished !individual ahauld not have given his sentiments since last year, and he (the Duke of Devonshire) should be curious to know if he still adhered to the opinions which he had then expressed, and haw far they had, or had not, been acted upon. If the people of Ireland saw a firm de termination in the House to inquire into their evils and grievances, the effect would be most beneficial. Whilst Par liament adopted measures of severity to repress violences, 'let it also show that it was willing to consult their happiness and prosperity. The Noble Duke concluded by moving a Resolu tion, stating, " That this House has learnt with the deepest regret, from the information laid before it during the present Session, by command of his Majesty, that a general spirit of violence, ma nifesting itself in outrages of the most alarming nature , has for some time prevailed in many parts of Ireland, and that in the opinion of his Majesty's Government, extraordinary powers are required for the protection of the persons and property of his Majesty's Subjects in that kingdom. That this House will be ready to concur in any measures which may be found indis pensible for the prompt and effectual suppression of these dis orders ; but experience has proved that coercion and force, however necessary to avert a pressing and immediate danger, have not been sufficient to eradicate evils, whose magnitude and frequent recurrence induce a belief that there must exist some material defect in the state and administration of the laws, and the system of government, to the examination of which, with a view to the adoption of more permanent and ef fectual remedies, it is the dotyent this House to apply itself without further delay." Earl BAT Hump contended that there was no evidence that the system acted upon by his Majesty's Government had been injurious to Ireland. As to the charge that nothing but measures of severity had been adopted towards that country', it was wholly unfounded. The principle on which the British Parliament had acted since the Union. might be ascertained by a reference to the Statute Books. Ireland was an agricultural country ; the first enactments of the United Parliament tended to create a vent for her produce. In 11106 a free importation of grain was allowed from Ireland into this country, when that from foreign states and from our own colonies was prohibited. This was a monopoly of the corn trade given her ; and when in after years the Corn Laws were revised, the same ad vantage was left in her possession, in consequence of which her produce had more than doubled itself. Neither was this the only measure adopted for her relief. The administration of' jus tice abounded with abuses. The mode of selecting Sherifik was one of the most injurious ; that mode had been changed by Act of Parliament, and assimilated to that which prevailed in Eng land. The fines occasioned by the forfeitures of recognizances in criminal proceedings were not equally collected ; that abuse was also corrected, and Sheriffs were made to levy all fines in discriminately. It had been the practice of Grand Juries not to examine witnesses, but to dscide on the depositions of Ma gistrates whether 'Bills were found or not; that grievance was removed, and the practice placed on the same footing as in England. Still later, the passing of the Police Bill had pro duced a great and important improvement, as it would be found stated in the dispatches of the Noble Marquis at the head of the Irish Government. Another measure had taken place to improve the 'character and respectability of the Ma gistrates. A revision of them had been made, and the ope ration of the measure, as far as it hail yet proceeded, had given the greatest satisfaction. Another important advantage had been secured to Ireland by the introduction of Petty Sessions into that country ; for the administration of justice would be very different when, instead of taking place at home and in private, it should be in presence of several Magi's. tmtes, and by their publicity the proceedings should be under the controul of public opinion. The Noble Duke was not justified, therefore, in asserting that no measures had been passed for improving the administration of justice in Ireland. Neither had that branch alone been attended to. The system of Grand Jury Presentments, that great source of evil to Ire land, had just been abolished by an Act of Parliament.— Some idea might be formed of the grievances occasioned by that system, when he should state, that when the Res venue of Ireland was only 4,000,0001., the amount raised by the authority of Grand Juries, for which no account was given, was little less than 1,000,0001. In the removal of this system had not the happiness of Ireland been contd. .dered ? Had it. not also been considered by the granting of loans on small securities for employing the poor in public works, and by the measure for improving fisheries ? The sum voted this year in relief to Ireland amounted to 30,0001.; that voted before the Union by the Irish Parliament was WM Which of them had the interests of that country most at heart? Mr. Owen's plan respecting which evening been presented to their Ile should a uld petitiongie no h o at ri t n h ili s ti n Lordships, but he s hould state what was a fact, that there was no extent to which his Majesty's Government were not vi Ming to go, provided there be a reasonable prospect of success, to provide effectual employment for the poor. Another great measure for the relief of Ireland had been the consolidation of the two Exchequers. By the Articles of the Union that country wits obliged to furnish two seventeenths of the general charges of the empire. Incapable occasionally to raise that amount within herself, she had had recourse to bosns, and had contracted a Debt she could not pay. In 1816 England had taken upon herself the whole of that Debt, and hail discharged Ireland from the obligation of p a yi n g two seventeenths; and what she now paid did not exceed two twenty-sevenths. By this measure Parliament had obtained an o pportunity of re lieving her front a weight of taxer . The vVindow lax had been removed last year, and the whole of the Assessed 'faxes Allis ; whilst England continued to pay a large proportion of the latter. Was it fair therefore to say that all that Parliament had done towards Ireland bail been the passing of repressive and severe measures ? Those measures had been repealed, and therefore talked of, because they were of a temporary character. Those for the improvement of Ireland were untie, ticed, because they were permanent in their nature, and were acting beneficially hut ailently. Were they not conciliatory means, and adopted-in the true spirit of conciliation, and not applied to the exclusive advantage of a party, but to the Irappi, ness of the whole community. As to Catholic Emancipation, he was sure that their Lordships would consider the subject too large to be discussed at present. The motion of the Noble Duke differed but little from that of a Noble Marquis (I.ans. down) made last year on the 14th of June. That Noble Mar quis had then stated that the Magistracy of Ireland required revision ; it had been revised. Ile had recommended the low. ering of the duty on distillation ; that duty had been lowered. He had said, diminish the weight of taxation; that weight had been reduced. Ile had said, do something to induce absentees to return ; the total repeal of the Assessed Taxes in Ireland was a measure calculated to produce that effect. He bad re. comntended, as a point of paramount importance, a commute tation of tithes ; a bill to that effect was now in progress through Parliament. All that butt been recommended had therefore been done, yet the Noble Duke's motion implied that there had been decided misconduct on the part of the Government. He denied that there was evidence of misconduct on the part of the Government, or of neglect on that of Parliament. He did not think that the House would believe it after what he had said. Being friendly to enquiry, he was unwilling to give the motion a direct negative, and should therefore move the previous question. The Earl of CLARE said that the Noble Earl who had just sat down had misunderst ood his (Lord Clare's ) obser v atio n s t o which he had referred. Viscount n a C t l L l n F p lp ro E veinn Nseaitdi that certainly ther e co u ld h a ve been n our relative s it ua ti on w i t h I re - land, land, it' we had not p e rmitted her to import the produce of her soil. As to that forb e a rance which the Noble Earl boasted of, respeiting the finances of Ireland, there erne no merit in this; for their Lordships could not draw any more from that fated land. With respect to Irish absentees, they were the.fruit of • the Union of the two Countries; anti if their Lordships were, pleased with the Union, they must ,cherish the offspring of it. li e mu st remark, that the population of Ireland was essentially Catholic; and- ever *nice the year :173.1, when it might be supposed that the Church was not more practicable than now, the tithes were disputed, and ff • 4 airs continued in this posture ti 111760, from which period, when Ire land had become an agricultural country, there was nothing but sanguinary laws, murders, rebellions, and executions. Ireland was not indebted to this country, unless her subjugation could . he demonstrated to have been a benefit to genie f. Even in England tithe was a serum' hardship, anti what must it not be in Ireland ? Tithe was said to be of divine origin, and perhaps it was, but for a peeple and for rises different to those to which it wits now applied. The Noble Lord proceeded to quote from M r. Maxim's %York relative to the proportion ofparish es and • tithe payers in a particular Barony in the ran s and result of which was, p the Payers being many anti the tithe small, the necessity employing proctors wax rendered impe. native. Ile grieved to say that many of their Lordships knew of Ireland ; s and more lie nothing of the suite was the pity-elee, pity.! I Then look at th E repeate d, _ mere vies the PI .e edema:et& courts, where Viergylllan was the Judge in .behalf .of his fellow Clergymen. In fact, altogether the state of Ireland was, shocking to contemplate, whatever were the cites that pro. duced it or the difficulties of the remedies to be applied to it. In Ireland, by the Act of 1734, parishes were united ; and there was one, pariah nearly 20 miles in length in which there was only one Church, and scarcely more than one panion to visit it. The evils of Ireland would be revenged sooner or later, if their Lord ships did not interfere in time. The Vicar-General of Kilkenny was a respectable man, but it was not so much of men as of the general system that he complained. The people of Ulster were not in the same melancholy condition with the people of the South, for they were Protestants, and not afflicted by the most atrocious code which was ever invented by the perverted ingenuity of man. It was not therefore to he wondered at that they (their Lordships) were hated and disliked. Why not, he asked, revive the woollen trade which was torne from Ireland ? At any expence, it would be desirable to bring it back. Frederick of Prussia, a cut throat and a robber hail said, that to sow he must reap, and he therefore sowed cotton in the wastes of Poland. The great matter with respect to Ireland was, to Impress upon the people that their Lordships were alive to their interests ; if that were done, Ireland would still prove a mine of wealth to this country. Above all, however, let the intolerant remnant of the Penal Code be abrogated. Lord 3lacartney supported his opinion ; and no man was ever a more zealous defender of Protestantism than that Noble Lord. The consummation of Ireland's misfortunes was completed by the Bills of Discovery, which broke up every tie of family and kin dred, and left to the hospitable no roof again to hold within it the guest, it interest prompted the latter to make a discovery. The last rag of such a system should be repealed. There wer e other things to be done, especially with the tithes; for in Ire land they had a Church without a flock. if Bishops and Parsons without flocks were to be paid, let them be paid, but in some other manner 'than by tithe. The pastors, the real pastors of Ireland were the Catholic Priests, who were neither to be bought nor bribed, and whose conduct was of the most exemplary na ture. The object of the Clergy should be to instruct, to teach the people; but for the Protestant Minister, he had no flock to teach. Why then be . paid as they were ? The more he said of the other House, particularly in the recent proceedings against the Sheriff of Dublin, and the Orangemen, the more he was induced to think that without Reform they could not much longer govern the country. The Newspapers over and over again had told their Lordships— The LORD CHANCELLOR—Order, order, Lord CEIFIWN—WeII, he was sorry to be out of order in making a statement of what their Lordships knew as well as he did. One effect, however, of the recent proceedings in the other House was, that whatever differences existed formerly between Catholics were now done away, and they were all united to. gether, and thank God for it ! The Noble Lord here advert( to the state of our finances, which would, he, feared, prevent us from maintaining our Maritime ascendancy. That which .had happened might happen again, and we might see the French land in Irelanttas they did in 1796 and 1790; and would it not therefore be right to place Ireland in that situa tion in which the bribery of the enemy might not tempt her, nor continued oppression allieniated herfrom this country ? Ile prayed God, however, that such an event might never hap. pen. Ito might have said something offensive to delicate ears, and he was sorry for it : but he felt within himself that he had only done his duty. Earl DARNLEY felt that the time was come, when, if Parliament did not put its shoulder to the wheel, what was destined to be the best bulwark of the empire, would prove the cause of its ruin. The Acts descanted upon by the Noble Secreary of State only amounted to this—that from time to time, on strong representations being made, regula tions had been adopted towards Ireland which did some good 'as far as they went. The two Exchequers had been consoli dated, because the only other alternative was to declare Ire. land a BankrUpt. There was therefore no great 'merit in the Act. After having confided for four or five years to promises he found that nothing had yet been done which was really ef fective. In that [louse nothing whatever. In the other there certainly hail been many wearisome nights spent in examina tion and debate on the attars of Ireland ; but had not the re. suit been a triumph to the party by whom Ireland had been so long misgoverned, and to a Gentleman whom he ' haul introduced to their Lordships in the bumble character of a dear seller of stationery to the Irish Government Offices ? A measure was in progress fur the commutation of tithes ; but he was told that it gave no satisfaction to any class in Ireland. 11e dospairua of any thing effeetual being done for the relief of that country. The principle on which she had been hitherto governed, had been a principle and a system of disunion. Let not Parliament be too sure that, under the circumstances of Europe, it , was sound policy to deny the boon of emancipation to six millions of Catholics. Should the House of Bourbon, triumphant in Spain, wish to avail itself of Catholic bigotry, would it be safe to leave Ireland opposite tilled with causes of discontent ? He cer. tainly did not think Catholic Emancipation a panacea for all the evils of that country, but he was convinced that nothing save a total reversion of the system hitherto pursued towards her could make her great and happy. No one had more re spect than he felt for the Noble 3larquis at the head of the Irish Government, but he had been astonished when he had seen him accept that office under the circumstances in which he was to fill it. That motley Government seemed arrayed in all the colours of the rainbow, in which, however, Orange preponderated, and its attention seemed more engrossed by the wish of keeping in place than by that of consulting the feelings and interests of the country. lie trusted that their Lordships would agree to the motion of his Noble Friend, and would take an early opportunity next Session of sifting all the evils of Ireland to the bottom, and of relieving her, not by amend ing, but by reversing the whole system under which she had been governed. Lord GOSFORD said that, in his opinion, no motion was ever made more deserving of their Lordships support than this. The present disastrous state of Ireland, it appeared to him, was owing to a long-continued system of tins-govern ment, which it behoved that House to do its utmost to put an end to. • Lord CALEDON supported the motion. Lord INIABYBOROUGH complained of the unjust and bpartial way in which the Noble Duke had stated the case, as etween tteland and the United Parliament of Great Britain and Ireland. He had endeavoured to make out that the conduct of the British Parliament had been one undeviating system of coercion since the time of the Union. Ile spoke in the hearing of many Noble i.ords who were conusant of 'the facts, that the Parliament had never lost sight of the improve ment of that country, doing the utmost they could do, by means of Commission of Inquiry and uthetwise. The fullest investigation had been given throughout to every point which could possibly affect the happiness of the people of Ireland— But be should be satisfied to rest his refutation of the Noble Duke's assertion, on the frequent and large grants of money which had been made for the promotion nt matters intimately connected with the national improvement, No less than 614,0001. had been granted since the Union to the Board of First Fruits. Besides which let them look at the large sums granted for pub lic works, for loans to distressed banks, &c. within the last few years. Large sums, as their Lordships knew, hid been voted tier the promotion education, and these he was happy to say had been fairly distributed, without partiality to the Protest ants,.or exclusion towards the Catholic Schools. . There was also established in Ireland a permanent Institution for the ex tension of those benevolent objects. If . the House alone con sidered the benefit which had been administered in the number of public math that had been cut, and „the bridges and canals that had been built and made, no ground of charge would re main against the British Government. In the administration of the Noble Marquis, who at present directed the affairs of Ireland, great advances had been made towards improiement in all those points which had always been considered the real evils of the country. The alteration in the Distillery Laws, was a most happy and effective change of system.--Neith Neither did he mean to confine his approbation to any parti cular Government since the Union. For instance, the Admi nistration of the Noble Lords opposite in 1806 had given two boons in Ireland. One was the Insurrection Act.—(Cries of No ! from the Opposition Benches.)—He could only say that but six weeks ago their Lordships' Attorney-General at that time told him that he had prepared this Act under their orders, although it was true they did not continue in office long enough to carry it into effect. Another boon was, the opemng of the ports and admitting the exportation of corn to England.. Then, he contended, that to agree to the Noble Duke's Resolution would be to cast an unfair and unjust colour of censure on the conduct of Parliament. The Noble Duke could state nothing alfainst the British Government anti Parliament but the refusal of Catholic Emancipation ; but much as he wished to see that . measure pissed, he must say, and the Noble Lard s apposite knew thut it was impossible to do so at present. "Plw Noble 3larquis at the,head of the Irish Government most curiously 1 and fortunately possessed the confidence of the Noble Lords _ . . opposite, and yet they could got agree.in commendation of any. one act of his government. It was said that his measures were milk and water. But be had done what , another Government could do in respect of tithes ; he had suceoeded in framing two Bills on that important subject fit to be laid before Parliament. He had also brought more measures before Parliament than almost any preceding Government of that country in' the same space of time. One of these, and most useful it was, Was the regulation with reference to small stills. Lord HOLLAND expiessmil his =prise that his Majesty's Ministers had no better case to rest upon than that which they had laid before them. The sum total of what they told them was, that so many boons had been granted to Ireland that there was no reason to investigate the admitted evils which afflicted that country. What ungrateful people, said they, these men must be to be so rebellious, after so many boons granted by this country to them? The Noble Lord who had just, sat dawn was very fond of bringing into debate what had once been the opinion and the conduct of this man and that man, as though a great question like this was to be decided by such a course of argument. It was rather a stale scent to allude now to what Nut been doneLi years ago, and which the Noble Lords, p. posite had never ceased to track ; and if Noble Lords oppozite were resolved to adhere to this tit qnoque sort of argument, it would be necessary they should change plasm; with hiraindhia Noble Friends, to give themselves an opportunity of havimg a fresh foundation.—(A laugh !) But to come to the question; what answer to the present state of Ireland was it to detail to them, as the Noble Lord had, all the boons granted by . the llritish Parliament to that country ? How would the:Noble Lord have liked to have all his tirades against the late Ruler of France answered by a reference. to all the bridges -he had built, the roads he had made, and . the palaces he heti raised ? One of the boons of which the Noble Lord spoke was the Insurrection Act, which he was so kind as to attri.. bate to him and his Friends. It was indeed true that "the At. torney-General had prepared it, and that he (Lord Holland) had read it ; but it was equally true that it was his inten. tam to have opposed it mast strenuously in the Cabinet, before which it never did come. These things, however, were nothing to the evils under which Ireland was unhappily la. bouring ? Something there was in the system of that country radically wrong, and he maintained the propriety of the Noble , Duke's Resolution in attributing many of its evils to the harsh. ness which had been shorn towards a, and the coercive po. licy by which it had been governed. For his own part he must say, that all his hopes and expectations from the appointment of the Noble Marquis, at present Lord Lieutenant, had been grieviously disappointed. His confidence in that Noble Per son, however, was undiminished, and as far as he actually was concerned in the Irish administration, he placed every reliance on the soundness and wisdom of his views. But he apprehend. ed that Noble Lord, to use the languageof his Noble Brother, was in a " false position,"—in a position, as he took it to mean, in which he expected more assistance from his enemies than his friends, and where he could do no good to the party which he was disposed to support. lie could assure the Noble Lord opposite, who had just sat down, that it was not measures such as the Grand Jury Presentments, the Distillery Regulations, that were calculated to obliterate from the minds of the Irish people a sense of their long inflicted series of injuries and op pressiona. As to the Tithe Bills which were toilet so much good he did not expect they would even become available this Sesaion. It was necessary to seek to amend the condition of that country in a true spirit of peace. He would not, as a Member of-Par liament, condescend, in answer to what had been said, to explain what had been the views of the Administration of 1806, with reference to the Government of Ireland. This, how. ever, he would say, that they had always intended to treat the mass of the Irish people in that spirit of kindness and old Eng lish good humour which had ever characterized the ancient vernment of this land. One great evil in Ireland was, that there was one law for the rich and another for the poor, and both were badly executed. The House had heard what had been done by the present GoYernment, and he put it to them whether his Majesty's Ministers bad redeemed the pledge they had given last year. Was Ireland tranquilized ? NVas there any fine in Ireland who had more confidence in the Go vernment now than last year ? Surely the Noble Lords opposite could not tell them that the Tithe Bill and the Distillery Bill were all that was meant by the great expectations held out to them lait year, when they had appealed to the appointment of Marquis Wellesley as a proof of their intention to go to the bot tom of the evils of that country. All government was esta. hlished for the good of the governed. All government, there fore, must be tried by its fruits, of the way in which it worked ; and would any one apply such a test to Ireland, and take credit for its government ? It was useless to tell them that the evil lay in the Landlords, in the Absentees, or in the Magistracy, the facts must bring them to the conclusion, that there was no security for any rights which had not a share in the Govern. meat. IVith reference to the present troubled state of Ire land, it behoved them well to look at the state of' affairs in Spain ; for if Spain, Portugal, anti France were united • under a Bourbon Government, ruling by favour of Divine Right., resting on the Catholic Religion and the Holy Alliance, and supported by the Army of the Faith, and bands of 31issionarics and Jesuits, the misgoverned Catholics of Ireland would be. come objects of great commiseration and jealousy to those united powers. if they could not govern Ireland well, he hoped they would not govern her long. If they could only govern by force, whatever the lawyers or law books might say, he should contend that it was an illegal Government. For these reasons he called upon them to consent to inquiry. There was no greater fallacy than to talk of a Government granting boons to a people. Ile knew of no boon a Government could dispense to the governed ,• for whatever they could do for their benefit belonged to them in justice, and it was the duty of their Rulers to accord. The Noble lord concluded by declaring his intention to support the original motion. The Earl of 'LIMERICK attributed many of the evils of Ireland to the state of religion in that country. Ho had met with many Captain Rocks in that country ; and from them he had learned the true object of all their depredations and out. rage. He had been very candidly, and at the same time' boldly informed that their Ingle object was to drive away thaberetics and get their property ; and that until they had attained that, they never would be quiet. The chief remedy, in his opinion, was to devise some mode of employment for the poor, and the establishment of a woollen manufactory ; these would do more than building bridges or making roads. If that were done, in a very short time they would see the midnight robber and as. sassin converted into the peaceable and industrious artisan. -- Whatever integrity, ability, and exertion could do, he believed the present Lord Lieutenant would do for Ireland. As the Resolution implied a degree of censure upon the Noble Lords opposite, as not having done what they could do for frelandite could not vote for it. Be hoped that, 11w the sake of whit: they had already done,' they would go on and do more.• Lord KING hoped that those who voted against a motion fur inquiry would resat the Insurrection Act, which he believed was the only efficient Act this Session, anti one certainly, more fitted for a slave island than a free country. That country was exactly in the same state it had been in for the last twenty. three years. In fact, the principle of the Irish Government was a complete paradox. They bad a sound and liberal Con. stitution established which was the sport of factions. The Chtirch of England had been transplanted there, but any thing but peace and good will prevailed. 'I hey had an exuberant soil, with atten&int misery. His opinipn was, that the people were always what the Governmett made them, and he should be glad to know whether the Noble Earl opposite would on this occasion repeat, as he had before done, the lines of the Poet— " Of all the ills that human kind endure, How few are those which Government can cause or cure." Such indeed WO the Government of that country, that the name of Ireland was a disgrace to the civilized world,. If their Lord. ships refused to go into inquiry now, they would add to the triumph of that faction, which was perhaps even then enjoying the triumph of the Orange hero on his return from a pilgrimage to the English Legislature. The Duke at' LEINSTER, in adverting to the Institution for the promotion of Education in Ireland, said, that he hail left it two years ago because of its conduct, and if some refor• potion were not made, it could not stand. The Marquis of LANSDOWN expressed his disappoint. merit at not having heard the Noble Earl opposite (the Earl of Liverpool) state the muses which hail prevented his 31 2 . jesty's Government from redeeming the pledge they, had liven last year to probe the evils at Ireland to the bottom. That country had never been in a worse situation .than it. was at present since the year 1708, and yet they saw nothing eKetual done for ha tranquillity. Credit had, loam given to him by a Noble Secretary of State opposite, as having onggested rneagurtm width hail since been made available by his Majesty's Government. lie was sensible of this commendation, but he was also sensible that the Ittiap. don of one single measure WaS not stifliri‘Jit in the present extremity ,at` that coantry. Notwithstanding the way in which