The Sun. — London, England, 1837-04-11 00:00:00

SECOND EDITION. S :;lIN OFFICE, Seven o' Clock. DEATII sOF LADY DE LISLE. We regret to :hear that Lady DE LISLE, the KING'S favourite Klaughter, died this morning ; it is said' in childbed. THE LONDON GAZETTE T HIS EVENING. BA3iKRUPTR THOMAS ELLSON, ; Me-merchant, Henley-upon-Thames, to surrender April 18 and 1 It ty 23, at eelven, at the Court of Bank ruptcy. Belche, official assignee ; Ford, Great Queen -street, Lincoln's Inn-folds ; Bar Jett, Reading, Berkshire. THOMPSON RAIN. E, perfumer, Hampstead, April 18, at one, and May 23, at elevi 'n, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Golds min, Ironmonger-lane, of zial assignee; Wright, Pery-street, Bed ford-square. JAMES HOLT, innl ;eeper, Bolton, Lancashire, May 9 and 23, at ten, at the Bridge Inn, Balton-le-_Moors. Chilten, Chan cery-lane, London; Hutt en, Bolton. CHARLES PERKINS, smailwa - re-manufacturer, 11Iancheste':, April 25 and March 23, at two, at the Commissioner's-roc:v.6, St. James's-square, Manchester. X sy, Barlow, and A...ion, Man chester. HENRY ASHCROFT, viet ,taller, Liverpool, April 24 and May 23, at one, at the Clarendon Rooms, Liverpool. Booker, Li verpool; Holme and Loftus, Nc w Inn. i CHARLES RYLAND, rcr a merchant. Birmingham, April2s and May 23, at eleven, at Rad' ..nhiirst's New Royal Hotel, Bir. mingham. Harrison, Birminr ,ham ; Norton and Chaplin, Gray's inn-square, London Tarletor Birmingham. FREDERICK FRY, by teller, Bath, April 28 and May 23, at one, at the White Lion Inn," Bath. Blake and Lewis, Essex-street, Strand, London; Hardy, 11 ath. JOHN BROOKE; wo ollen-cloth manufacturer, Dewsbury, Yorkshire, April 22, at ter J, and May 23, at eleven, at the Royal Hotel, Dewsbury. Jaeo mb and Tindale, Huddersfield ; Van Sandau, Old Jewry, Lon? on. RICHARD HUDSO i; -- eurrier, Birmingham, April 25, and :May 23, at one, at Rade• ahurst's New Royal Hotel, Birmingham. Harrison, Birmingham ; Norton and Chaplin, Gray's Inn-square, London ; Winterhothan i and Thomas, Tewkesbury. ROBERT CORNF .5, ironmonger, Manchester, April 25, at eleven, and May 23, at twelve, at Dee's Royal Hotel, Birmingham. Milne, Parry, Milne, snd Morris, Temple, London ; Berwick and Son, Birmingham. CHARLES WYNISE DAIRES, draper, Bishopscastle, Salop, April 24 and May 2:1, at twelve, at th.! Shire-hall, Shrewsbury. Blackstock, Bunce, . 4 .7incent, and Sherwood, Temple, London; Wation, Shrewsbury. EDWARD JONES; drysalter, Manchester, April 25, and May 23, at two, at the Commissioners' Rooms, Manchester. Johnson, Son, and Weatherall, 'Temple, London ; Hitchcock, Manchester. JOHANN JACOB 'SCHENCK, lace-manufacturer, Notting ham, April 21 and Ma.y 23, at eleven, at the Flying Horse Inn, Nottingham. Percy, Smith, and Percy, Nottingham ; Austen and Hobson, Raymorid-buildings, Gray's-inn, London. THOMAS VER'FUE, merchant, Woodbridge, Suffolk, April 17, at two, and May 23, at twelve, at the Great White Horse Ta vern, Ipswich. Carthew, Woodbridge ; Grose and Burfoot, In ner Temple, Lomb!). RICHARD COLLETT, ironmonger, Middle-row, Holborn, April 24, and Mity 23, at ten, at the Commissioners' Rooms, Man chester. Johmon, Son, and Weatherall, Temple, London ; Sed don and MawFon, Manchester. PIIILIP RIMER, provision-merchant, Southampton, April 24, and May 23, at twelve, at the. Star Inn, Southampton. Walker, Southampton-street, Bloomsbury-square, London ; Deacon, South am Ann. ROBERT WEATHERILL, ironmonger, Manchester, April 25, at three, and May 23, at two, at Dee's Royal Hotel, Binning ham. Milne, Parry, Milne, and Morris, Temple, London ; Berwick and Son, Birmingham. _ . _ RICHARD LENG, victualler, Birmingham, April 18 and May 23, at eleven, at Radenhurst.'s New Royal Hotel, New-street, 13inningham. Thorndike, Staple-Inn, London ; Wheeler, Bir mingham. SAMUEL KAY, victualler, Heaton Norris, Lancaster, May 2 and 23, at ten, at the Commissioners' Room?, Manchester. Cop pock, Cleveland-row, St. James's; Coppock and Woollam, Stock port. JOHN STEWART ROBERTSON and JOSEPH TODD, linen-manufacturers, Manchester, April 24, and May 23. at three, at the Commissioner's-rooms, Manchester. Norris and Allen, Bartlett's-buildings, London ; Norris, Manchester. COURSE OF EXCHANGE.-ITIIIS DAY.) rotten: :11 C.F. 12 6% f egi,olo-, natio, at tight I,otrerllnin 2U. 12 7 ; Milan..... N.ntaterp... altanicurg. NM a 3 Ip , 4' , ;aples . 39 A trona— . liana, 3 Kays' sight.. . . 25 '75 Li , bon a,'`Uto 2 Us. .1 5 Oporto .................... ...-........ .52 Airsei!:e , ......... .. ...... ...... 2fi 11 ' 1ti0.1aneir0.............. ........ ..... L 8 Frankfort on Main..., Ex. NI. 13134, . "ahia 2O s•:terstaugla, ruble , Us, 10 0 Buenos il }lts lierlin - ..... 11,, V;eima, eXectiva: t. "M lO 2.2 Cork. ' 1,, Trieste ditto lO 24 a ~and :',l% PRICE 01' 13(71.1.10N, PER 02. t' 012.. . ..... .. '36 Portugal (:old, coin CO 0 0 lidboi -..i Forego (.101d, in bars ...... 3 17 9 II ‘r, Au, a ..... ...... ... ...... .. : , ..5 5q,,,, onaitr.ouns ~, r itle 'ara N.,. 1)011.trs osabraliat ..48 Alvan, 11..ara. standard 0 4 9.7,4 MARKET INT ELL IGENCE. ( Fr.m the New London Price Current of April I I. ) SUGAR —There has been rather more demand f.,r British Plantation ; an advance of 6d. on former rates has been ob t,ined. This afternoon, contrary winds keeping back the ar rival?. the quantity on show on the market ass extremely small. For a fined goods there has been an improved request for shipping ; sales of double Crushed made for immediate tic:ivery at 355. 61., and for future at 353. ; the grocers have purchased sparingly, arid barely former rates have been btaisied, Lumps equal to the standard selling at 765. 61, rnd oth?rs rather under at 75.. Bastards have mrt with a du!: sate at former rates. Treacle continues in good request at iinvaried prices. In Dutr h Crushed Sugar we have 'still nothing. doing, but under, 6d. there are not se ll er s. 'lbi s afternoon there was a b r i s k demand from the Grocers; 735. paid for Lumps that Would pass, and the same price for those rather umkr the standard. The shippers offer 355. for double crushed fur immediate delivery, but there arc no sellers under 355. 64.! Mauarritis.—This afternoon the public sale of 8,703 bags. went off briskly at an advance on former rates of Is., low brown sold at 50s. a 523., good brown 535. 61. a 555., mid. and. good yellow 565. a 391., fine 625. a 635., low grey for refining, 5:35. a 55 , ., colours- for the same purpose, 575. a 59.. EAST INDlA,—Bengal privately has been in good request for home consumption at late prices, and there is little offering fir sale. Cochin China at 20s. to 255. for ord. grey and mid. tshi!r, and 3.500 hags Manilla, at 18 , . 64. to 20s. for fine, brown and ord. yellow, 8,000 bags Manilla are announced for auction on the 18. h April. This afternoon at public sale 500 bags Bengal went at former prices to 6tl, advance, mil, white duty paid sold at 655. a 663.. damps 6ls. 64. a 645. 61, being the first parcel sold at the low rate of duty. MOLASSEK.—There has been very little business doing in \Vest India, and prices are on the decline ; small parcels of fine St. Kitt's having been disposed of at 275., and good De tnera,•a at 275. The total deliveries of West India Molasses from the wart-houses for home use, for the week ending Aptil 8, were 2 511 cwt. FOLEIGN.— Havannah sold at 255. to 265. Gll. for ord. to good mid. ; the private sales have been 400 chests white Ha xannah at 393. for good, 900 chests yellow at 275. to 21s. 6d. for fair and good quality ; besides two cargoes afloat, one of 1.200 boxes old yellow Havannah for Amste;dam at 255. 6d.. and the other of 250 chests white Pernaras of the new crop to arrive to be delivered at Trieste at 30i. 6d. 440 chests 693 bags 76 hrls., &C., are announced for auction on the lath, and 1,202 bags 2.673 loaves Lima for the 21st April. Of Havannah we have received 7,000 boxes less this year, whilst the export has increased nearly 10,000, but the stock is 1,000 more. There is a falling off in the import of Brazil to the extent of 1,770 chests, with an increased delivery of 130 chests. COFFEE. —The British Plantation Market has been quiet, the denand for the clean grocery descriptions having become very moderate ; unclean qualities have sold heavily at 2s. de cline. In Mocha there has been little doing privately, at a (Tecline of 2s. ; good and fine ordinary clean garbled sold at ti7s. to 69i. At auction this afternoon 198 casks British Plantation, a small part only of which were sold at former rates ; Berbice Iniddling, 935. 6d. to 945. 6d. ; Demerara was withdrawn ; 156 bags Ceylon at the 6d. duty sold at 70s. for ord. sound ; 799 bags East India, only a small part of which were disposed of. Sumatra was taken in at 31s. to 3'2s. 6d. ; good pale at 40s. 6d. ; Samarang sold at 355. 6d. to 395. ; good pale bought in at 435. to 445. COTTON.—The private transactions have been only 100 bales Surats at 4id. a Aid., and 20 Madras at 4:lsd. per lb. Isnioo sold 4d. to 6d. discount on the shipping qu a li t i es, and Bd. to 9d. on consuming, as compared with the January sales. Madras at a reduction of 6d. on good, 9d. to Is. on ntid. and ord., and full Is. on low and Kurpah. RICE.—In Carolina a steady business has been done for home use at 325. a 345.; the shippers have paid 225. for some small parcels. COCHINEAL—There has been very little business doing privately, and the public sales of 198 bags Honduras have gone off heavily at 3d. p er lb. d ec li ne i n f ormer rates ; very ordi nary silvers at 6.8. to 6s. 3d., middling and good 6s. Bd. to 7s. 2d., fine 7s. 7d. to is. 10d., low and good black 7s. 3d. to Bs. TEA. —The next public sales of Free Trade are fixed for early in May, but at present to what extent they will be it is not known. The total deliveries of all descriptions of Tea, on which duty has been paid, for home consumption for the week ending April with, are 444,100 lbs. Ruse—Leeward Proof at 2s. 2d., 4 to 8 over 2s. 3d. to 2s. 4d., 9 to 11 over 2s. 5d., 12 to 20 over 2s. 6d. to 2s. 9d., 22 to 28 over 2s. 10d. to 35., 30 to 38 over 3s. Id. to 34. sd. Jamaica 27 to 33 over 3s. 6d. to 3s. 10d, and fine 35 to 38 over proof 4s. to 4s. 6d. ; superior 4s. 10d. TALLOW.—The prices have been steady, and for consump tion there has been a fair request at 445. 3d. to 445. 6d. for P Y Candle. For delivery in the months of October, No vember, and December a good business has been done at 41s. 3d. to 41s. 6d. per cwt. At the grand theatre of St. Petersburgh, there is an iron curtain, fire-proof, which may be drawn right across the b /use, so as completely to isolate the stage from all communi cation with the audience part, as a precaution in case of fire. The Emperor himself is nervous upon the subject of fires, a:most to a disease. Lately an alarm was given in this theatre, snd a part of the audience left their places, occasioning a good deal of confusion. Immediately afterwards an intimation was given to the management that they would be held personally responsible in case of fires occurring in future. 11\11TR I tai. PARL lAN ENT, (THIS EVENING.) HOUSiE OF LORDS. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his scat on the Woolsack at 'Five o'clock. Mr. Peck brought up P;4pers from the Commissioners fcr the Reduction of the Natic ,nal Debt. The Bishop of ELY p resented a petition from the Master, Fellows, and Scholars of f St. John's College, Cambridge, against the Oxford and Cr.mbridge Statutes Bill. The petition was re - Ad at great length by the Clerk. The RIGHT REV. PRELATE then presented a similar petition from the Master r.nd Fellows of Jesus College, Cambridge. Lord GRANT !,E Y rTesented petitions in favour of Ch ureh rates from St. Mary's, Guilford, and from another place in Kent. The Duke of WELLINGTON presented a petition from an individual against the Leeds and Manchester Railway Bill. Lord KENYON presented four petitions in favour of Church-ratts, and one from Abcrgavenny against the Poor law Ame•iiment Bill. The, Bishop of HEREFORD presented similar petitions fror . .., parishes in Surrey and Hereford. The Bishop of L INC 0 LN presented a petition from King's College, Cambridge, against the Oxford and Cambridge Uni versity Statutes Bill. The Right Rev. Prelate also presented petitions to the same effect from Lincoln College, Oxford, and from Brazennose College, Oxford. The Bishop of WINCHESTER had several r otitions to present upon the same subject, but was unwilling to trouble their Lordships with the reading of all the petitions' by the Clerk. The Earl of RADNOR said it would be impossible to know what the objects in view of the petitioners were, unless they were read. _ _ _ Lord BROUGHAM was also of opinion that in justice to the parties, they should be read. The Earl of RIPON did not think that any great information could be obtained by their Lordships from having the petitions read in that way. The Bishop of WINCHESTER was entirely in the hands of the House, and he would either state their prayer, or have them read by the Clerk.—( Cries of " Read, read.") The petitions were then read at length by the Clerk. They were from Corpus Christi College, Oxford ; St. John the Baptist College, Oxford; St. Mary Winchester College, Oxford, commonly called New College ; St. Mary Magda lene College, Oxford, and from the President, Fellows, and Scholars of the Holy and Undivided Trinity, Oxford. 'I be last petition prayed that if the Bill proceeded another stage, petitioners might be heard by counsel against the Bill. Lord RE DESDA L E presented a petition from the Dean and Chapter of Christ Church College, Oxford, to the same effect. Lord RAVENSDALE presented a petition from Ipswich against the abolition of Church-rates. The Archbishop of CANTERBURY presented a petition from the President and Fellows of Ballot College, Oxford, against the Oxford and Cambridge Statutes Bill, and a peti t►on from Merton College, Oxford, to the same effort. The Most Rev. PRE LATE then presented a petition from the Warden, Fellows, and Scholars of All Soul's College, Oxford, to the same effect. And in ►he absence of the Arch bishop of York, who was prevented by a domestic calamity from attending, the same Prelate presented a petition from the Provost, Fellows, and Scholars of Queen's College, Ox ford, to the same effect. The Most Rev. PRELATE then, on behalf of the Bishop of Exeter, who was prevented by indisposition from attending, p•eiented a petition from the Rector and Scholars of Exeter College, Oxford, to t'ae same effect. Th; Bishop of LL A NDAFF presented a petition from the Blessed Mary the Virgin College, Oxford, to the same effect. The Duke of WELLINGTON presented a petition from Worcester College, a petition from the Chancellor, Master, and Fellows of the University of Oxford, and a petition from the Masters and Fellows of Clare Hall, Cambridge, to the same effect. Lord fl ARDWIC K E presented a petition from the Master and Fellows cf Queen's College, Cambridge, to the same The LORD CHANCELLOR presented a petition from the Principal and Ft-,llows of Jesus College, Oxford, to the sem! effect. Lord WYNFORD presented a petition from Wadham Col. Oxford, to the same effect. Lord D E GREY presented four potitions from places in Leicester and Yorkshires, against the abolition of Church- rates. AFFAIRS OF SPAIN. Lord A LVANL E Y give notice that to-morrow he should put a question to his Mijest)'s Government relative to the Marines and Artillery employed in the service of the Queen of Spain. 'The Order of the Day for the second reading of the Ox ford and Cam bridge Stata•es 13 , 11 having leen read. Lord RA DNO R rose to move the second reading, and It as lefc speaking. HO USE OF COMMONS. The SerAxEn took the chair at the usual hour, but there being a b.illot fcr a Committee to try the merits of a petition. proscntcd against the return of Mr. Luke White, for the comity of Longford, the g;dlery was not opened until a quarter part four. Ceptain C ET WY N D presented a petition from Stafford in favour of tho Manchester, Cheshire, and Staffordshire Rail way. Lid against the South Union Railway Bill. Colonel SEALE presented a petition from an individual in favour of the ffirtlepo, - ,1 Railway Bill. Mr. GREENE brought en the Report of the Committee on the Clarence (Durham) Railway Bill. Mr. WILBRAHAM presented a petition against the Pres ton and Wire Railway Bill. SOUTHWARK AND HAMMERSMITH RAILWAY. Air. BA INES, who was in the ffallerv, having been , ealled upon by the Speaker, moved that all the petitions relative to the Southwark and Hammersmith Railway Bill be referred to the Committee on the Bill ; and that Mr. Wilks, Mr. Wason, and Mr. Praed be added to the Commi:tee. The S PEA K E R—You must come down.—( ‘ Laughter. ) Mr. WI LKS thought the report of the Committee should be printed, and they would then be able to ascertain whether there was any necessity for the Hun. Member's motion. The motion was then agreed to. Sir J. Y. BULLER presented petitions in favour of the Glasgow and Ayr Railway. Lord CLEMENTS presented a petition from Leitrim against the Lough Fo)le Drainage Bill. d C. L K StN 0 ) - t p. escnted petitions against the London and South Ea , tern Railway Bill. The NOBLE LORD then, : on behalf of the Hon. Member for East Sussex, postponed the petition relative to the Dover Railway till Thurstl.sv next. eIIURCH-RATES. Petitions in favour of =Church-rates were presented by Mr. Farrand, Lord Stanley, Mr. Grove Price, Mr. Horace Twiss, Mr. R. Palmer, and other Members ; and in favour cf the abolition of Church-rates by Mr. Grote, Sir G. Strickland, Mr. T. Dancombe, Major Bcau?lerk, Mr. Lennard, Mr nett, Mr. Tooke, and Mr. Aglionbv, whose petition also prayed for a Reform of the Houie of Lords. Lord G LENNOX presected a petition against the Salmon Fisheries Bill. Mr. SCAR LETT presented a petition against certain clauses in the Imprisonment for Debt Bill. LONGFORD ELECTION. The Clerk of the Election Committees appeared at the Bar with the reduced list, and the following Members having been called over came to the table and were sworn by the Clerk : Lord C. Russell, Sir Rufane Donkin, Mr. Edward Horsman, Mr. Benjamin Hall, Mr. Rushout Bowles, Lord Viscount Clive, Mr. Roland Alston, Mr. Thomas Hawkes, Mr. George -Houston, Mr. Andrew Lawson, and Sir J. C. Hobbouse. SMITHFIELD MARKET. Mr. TOOKE presented a petition from 6,000 inhabitants of London, praying for the removal of Smithfield Market, on the ground that it was a nuisance, and tended to the desecra tion of the Lord's Day. Alderman WOOD assured the House that these petitions bad been got up by persons interested in a railway which was intended to terminate near the rival market at Islington. Mr. TOOKE presented a petition from person' living within the liberty of the Rolls, complaining of the inequality of the land tax. Mr. H A MILTON presented a petition from Dublin against the Dublin Police Bill. POOR LAWS. Mr. P. HOWARD presented a petition from a place in Cumberland in favour of the Poor-law Amendment Bill. Petitions against the Poor-law Bill were presented by Sir J. Graham, Lord G. Somerset, Mr. Walters, and Lord Henniker. Sir A. L. HAY presented a petition in favour of the Shipping Gazette. Lord CLEMENTS presehted a petition from Leitrim, praying for the abolition of tithes. Mr. GROTE presented a petition from London, praying for a repeal of the Corn Laws. Petitions against the abolition of Church-rates were presen ted by Mr. Palmer, Sir. G. Sinclair, and Mr. Trevor; and in of the Abolition of Churc-rates by Mr. BA INES, from Leeds, Huddersfield, and about 20 other places in Yorkshire. Mr. O'CONNELL presented 34 petitions from various Places in Iceland; praying for the' Abelition of Tithes and Vote by Ballot. Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL presented petitions from Kerry in favour of the Irish Municipal Bill. On the motion of Mr. L A BO ITCHERE the Lord.' Amend ment to the Mint Bill were agreed to. BATH AND WEYMOUTH RAILWAY. Mr. F. BUXTON presented a petition in favour of the Bath and Weymouth Railway Bill. Sir 0. MOSEL Y presented a petitron in favour of the Manchester and Cheshire Railway, and a petition from Derby praying for a reduction of the duty on Fire Insurances. ADJOURNED DEBATE ON THE MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS (IRELAND) BILL. _ Mr. HUME moved the Order of the Day for resuming the adjourned debate on the Irish Municipal Corporations Bill, and addressed the House in support of the Bil. The only opposition given to the measurc in the debate on the previous evening was that it would endanger the stability of the Established Church in Ireland. He begged to remind the House, that in the year 182.2, he had put forth that tranquillity could not be expected in Ireland until the Established Church was reduced to such limits as were communicative with the real wants of that part of the population woich adhered to its doctrines. Up to the present time, how ever, that Church was put forward as the apology for net giving that justice to Ireland which had been conceded to England and Scotland.—(Hear.) He most earnestly ad vised the friends of that Churce, however, to yield in time, as being the only mode of averting those dangers with which it appeared to him that the Church was threatened. He believed that the Church was not the real object which lion. Gentlemen opposite were so desirous of preserving. They made the Church a stalking.horse, or rather the Protestant religion, wherewith to cover the real object they had in view, which was that of preserving the revenues and the sinecures. of the Church. It was openly advanced by Hone Mem bers opposite, that the Bill would not pass in ano ther House, but he begged leave to state that that should be no argument with them. They had only to do their duty in making this Bill as perfect as possible, and let the other House of Parliament take all the responsibility of reject ing this measure, and denying to the people of Ireland equality of civil rignts. He could not understand why the majority of the people of Ireland should not have the same mea sure of justice as was meted out to the majorities of England and Scotland. By the violent opposition of this Bill from the Hon. Members opposite,they were only by these means driv ing headlong to distraction the Established Church which they expressed themselves so anxious to preserve. Upon this ground he maintained that that monstrosity in our Consttitution—the Irish Church —and he must say that our Constitution would be purer and better if there were no Established Church--but until the Irish Church ceased to be the dominant religion, peace could not be hoped for in that country. In England the religion of the State was the religion of the majority, and thus also it was in Scotland. An Hon. Friend near him said it was the true religion, but it was a wise man who knew what the true religion was. They had seen every religion in every county and in all ages asserted to be the true religion. The increasing intelligence of the country however, tended every year to place the Established Church in greater jeo pardy, particularly in Ireland. ( Hear, hear.) If the Hon. Gentlemen opposite rejected this Bill, they would ere long have to regret that course. The measure before the House was only one instalment of that which was due to Ireland, and if it was rejected, such a rejection would only rouse the people of Ireland to greater exertion against the Established Church as their common enemy.--( Hear, hear.) It was not his fault that reform had gone on faster, and he hoped the day was not far distant when no party would be able to be found who would say there was no such thing as Church property. He trusted that past experience would not altogether be lost on the Tories. He would say to the Hon. Member for Kilkenny let the measure be rejected elsewhere, and If thaf was the case, it would aff)rd him double ground for agi tation. He cordially approved of the Bill then before the House, and he should give it his strenuous support. Mr. A. TREVOR said he, and those who sat on his side of the House, felt it their duty to support those principles which had been handed down to them from their ancestors and which had been sealed by their blood He main tained that the Bill before the House would convert Ireland from a Protestant into a Popish country. Concession after concession had been made to the Roman Catholics; a stand must be made somewhere, and he did not see that that stand could be made in a better place than at the al tar of their religion.--( Hear.) If the Church was destroyed, every other species of property would be destroyed also. —( Hear.) He certainly should not have troubled the House but for the denunciations of the Honourable Member for Middlesex against that Church which he (,Mr. T. )loved and cherished. Whatever might be the decision of the other House of Parliament, he was certain it would be as satisfactory to the notion, as it would be honourable. Mr. GALLY KNIGHT altogether disapproved of the Bill. Mr. O'CONNELL then rose, and was left speaking. EDGEWARE-ROAD MURDER. CRIMINAL COUItT-(THIS DAY.) OLD COURT. At 25 minutes past three the Court resumed, when The LORD CHIEF JUSTICE said that an application had been made on behalf of the prisoners, that they might have the ar ticles returned to them which bad not been identified by the witnesses as having belonged to the deceased. He saw no objection to ,this, and therefore the articles would be returned to them. Mr. PRICE then rose to address the Jury for the defendants. He commenced by saying it was due to himself, his Learned F, iend, to the Jury and the Court to state distinctly that they had had difficulties to encounter in this case which he believed had seldom been presented to a Court of Justice before. Every facility which could have been afforded to the kris, ners at the Bar by the indulgence of the Court, and every facility which could have been afforded even by his Learned Friends who con ducted the prosecution, they were in the full enjoyment of; but large as those facilities had been, they did not remove the diffi culties with which they all had to contend, and which he be lieved it would be altoge!lier impossible to put out of view. It was quite clear that the most important evidence which stood in the way of one of the prisoners at the bar had most uaquestionably proceeded front himself. At the same time he hoped he should be enabled to furnish them, if net with an excuse, at least with an extraordinary m itter of extenuation for conduct which he could not but call atrocious.—(Here Grccuacre lost that self-command which he hi - herto appeared to possess, and continued cry. bag for 3 y:re minutes, holding a silk handkerchief to his eyes ) He was quite sure that the male prisoner at the bar himself gas then, and h,cl been, as shocked with the dreadful recol lection of his dire proceeding as any cne present, or as the public in this or any other part of Europe could ossibly have been, if this tale had reached their cars. He was quite su -e that, from the moment of having come to his senses, the male prisoner had bitterly regretted and repented his offence against decency, and against the respect which was due to the dead.--(The prisoners, Greenacre and Gale, here ap peared to be very deeply affected, and were both in teara.) He was sincere in what he was saying, and was not using the language of a mere advocate, because he knew, and was proud to say, it was not in human, nature to feel otherwise than he did. But that was not the only difficulty he had to encounter— he had to contend with another formidable engine of oppres sion that had been from first to last employed to crush the irisoner at the bar, to scatter his friends and relations, and to parelize his advocate—he alluded to that powerful engine the Pies , . There was once an engine in the prison of that name, which the humanity of the law had banished from its walls. The coincidence was striking. It was f ormer ly cus tomary, when men sto o d mu t e at the bar, to press them to 'death, in the press-yard of the court of Newgate, and the law would have been frustrated if the pressure from other places should revive that dreadful engine of torture, which the law, under the inspiration of God, had banished from this civilized land. He was sure he need not ask them, as his Learned Friend Mr. Adolphus had done, , o banish all prejudice, and "to forget all they might have h -ard, read, or seen. lie knew they would do it to the utmost of their human power, but their power was but human, and most superhuman would that intellect be that could discard from its recollection, as an act of enforced charity, that which it was impossible to forget, whatever an guish and agony it might excite to remember. He would not dwell on that more at present. His only object was to show how it bore upon the case, how it prejudiced every witness that had stepped into the box—he did not aty to their scand or their reproach, for melancholy and mischievous as it was, it might proceed front an amiable mind. Abhorrence had been excited, and the truth had been perverted, though perhaps not intentionally ; yet the mind had been swayed from that course which could only keep testimony pure. The Jury would have observed that much had been stated, even in the most trifling matters, which, but for those circumstances, would have been stated in a different light. There was a contagion in this sort of malignant fever, from which it was difficult for either the Bar, creven the Bench, entirely to escape. He did hope the time would come, and that it would not be long, when it would be as criminal in a Court of Law, and as penal in a Court of Justice, to overlay and overload a case beforehand, by such parties and by such means, as it was vale and villainous in social positions, and as it was murderous and as sassin-like in all its bearings, its motives, and objects. The current of justice had been perverted ; the stream of truth, which ought to flow pure in all its channels, had been so blotted and so basely corrupted by a large proportion of the British Press that no one could scarcely see through it. But they must take the case as they found it, and notwithstanding all the difficulties surroundin g it their duty must be di sc h arge d. He should in the co urse o f his address be frequently obliged to recur to the sequel of this melancholy accident, a sequel which be was bound to admit—he should be stultifying him self and the Jury if he did not admit to its fullest extent the hideous atrocity—which bad occasioned difficulties of which he most bitterly complained, and which he most deplorably la mented. Reprobating as he had done the act of his client, deploring as he had done the disTdvantages to which it had given rise, he would now proceed to call their calm and collected attention to the real circumstances of this melancholy case. The jury had for the period of nearly two successive days given a most praiseworthy and laudable attention to the whole of the case—had exhibited a magnanimous patience, and had listened to the whole detail of the voluminous evidence with a patience worthy of any case, and worthy of the justice which they were there to administer, under most able and admirable Judges. If he as the advocate of the prisoners had had the selection of a court of justice in which to try them, he should be precisely where he then stood. So far they had been most fortunate. His feeble aid to that of his Learned Friend would avail the prisoners but very little in a case of this description, prejudiced as it had been; but they would all receive assistance from the charge of the Judge who would state theft vidence in such a manner as would con. siderably lighten the burthen of the Jury and of the prisoner's advocate. There was a seven-fold shield thrown around the prisoner, and one that was impregnable — he meant the position in which the prisoners at the bar then were—in the emphatic language of the arraignments of former times they were put upon " God and their cowl try." The prisoner's friends (said the Learne I Coun sel) are scattered, he is already left alone in this world, and probably.. ever will. The word " ever" may not b e long— he may never want more human assistance, than the very small pittance he has received this day. Be that as it may, whatever may be the result of this trial, I am sure that he will be satisfied with the verdict, let it be what it may. It is only necessary that we should take care that it satis fies, and does no more than satisfy, justice. We are not to sa tisfy the base, the murderous passions of an infuriated public. Within these walls we are shut in from clamour, and the pressure out of doors does not interfere with our calm and deliberate consideration of this case. Upon your vigorous manhood of mind, upon your integrity of intellect we rely. Remember always that in this case it will be in finitely • better for you to say "We were not stimulated to murder by a violence offered to our minds. If we have done wrong, if we have acquitted a guilty man, the error is on the right and safe side—we are not guilty our.. selves." That will be a consoling recollections to you on your death beds. Your lives will not be haunt ed by the apprehension that something may transpire which will show you that you have consigned to an ignomi nious death a fellow creature that was not guilty to the extent to which it was necessary he should be for your condemnation. The Learned Counsel then went on to say, the path of life was sufficiently beset with misfortunea,which proceeded from our own vices, without allowing a man to be punished for those for which he did not deserve punishment. Ile hoped the Jury would for give him for telling them those things—they must be ob vious to every one. He only did so, lest it should be said he had not done all that duty which, he was sorry to Say, was cast upon him. It was not his intention to detain them with any unnecessary observations, nor was it his intention, at his period of life—for he was not a mere aspirant at the bar—to make any display. His Learned Friend had been kind enough to say the prisoners at the bar would have the advantage of Counsel, that it was a novel advantage, and one of which he was glad they had the opportunity. Ile considered himself, that advantageous as it was, under many circumstances it would also frequently be quite the reverse. He wished the Jury could hear the prisoners make their own defence, because then, as far as the woman at all events was concerned, they would bear the voice of innocence, and it would sink into their hearts. They would then know that she was speaking not the language of an abettor of murder; they would have the singular advantage of the female voice speak ing powerfully, but striking to their humane hearts, and they would have the advantage of hearing the language of truth from the lips of innocence. He knew that because he had heard it ; and he would declare to them that he was as satis fied as he was of her future salvation, that she deserved re demptim from this charge. The a; was, he was very sorry to say, a third prisoner, whose liberty was involved in the present inquiry, and who had been, young in its innocent life, a prisoner —he alluded to the woman's child. That child was in Newgate, at play perhaps at that moment. As in nocent as that child was so, innocent was the female prisoner. They had not heard or seen a tittle of evidence from the beginning to the end to affect her in any way whatever—he declared that he had not. The concealment of such a circumstance, however sanguinary or sanguineous, was not to be taken as proof of murder. He would not attempt to deny that this was a high and very grave offence. But the man at the bar stood in a very different posi tion from that of any other man in 'this country. On the 24th Dec. he found himself in the company of a body which had been killed, and he the last personwho had beer, scenwith itwas himself —a body which he unfortunately had assisted to kill. Naturally every one now said he should have called in the neighbours, but who could say, if they were placed in such circumstances what they would do ? He was a madman almost, and the action which he decided upon was the frantic fury of a frenzied mind. The Jury had been relieved from a great part of their heavy duty by the candid and open confession which the prisoner had made of all the circumstances attending the death of this unfortunate woman. If they took any portion of that statement which had most improperly been called a confession of the murder, they must take the whole of it; and lie (Mr. P.) called it a most candid detail of all that took place; and it showed clearly that the crime did not amount to murder. They had been told that the mute evi dence of the sack which had been exhibited to them yes terday would prove that this was a premeditated murder. He was glad to find that that was the only evidence which the prosecutors could bring forward to prove this premeditation. He would, he hoped, be able to satisfy thorn that, in fact, there was nothing in the point so made. He would ask them what could be the motive—the incentive—which he could have for the premeditated murder of the woman to whom he was to have been married so soon Was it her property,either large or small ; a few hours would have put every shilling of it under his sole control by marriage. Was there any malice proved? No ; not one single word of an angry nature had been proved. It might be said that they had words about this, very property ; but was it likely that a few words upon such a subject would raise such feelings in any one as would induce him to commit murder. It was the duty of the Jury to take care that circumstantial evidence did not commit murder. It had done so before. Men had been hung upon circumstantial evidence, which was afterwards found out to be untrue. It was the duty of the Jury to take care that the sword of Justice was not stained with innocent blood. The Learned Gentleman cited A case from the books, and made several supposititious cases, for the purpose of showing that even more atrocious cases than that under discusssion had been held to amount only to manslaugh ter. The evidence of th e t a l ente d gentleman, Mr. Girdwood, shewed that no murderous weapon had been used in inflicting the blow on the eye ; he gave it as his opinion that the blow was inflicted by the hand. Now, considering the relation in which these parties stood, was it possible to believe that any man would have struck such a blow without very great provocation ? Let the Jury presume that, as they must do, and then the crime must be reduced to manslaughter. Let them look at the gross improbabilities of the ;node of death. They were to suppose that man, not of great strength, was to attack a strong woman, who got her bread by severe toil, which was usually employed by men. This murderous assault also was supposed to have taken place in a small room, where the walls were not the usual thickness of partitions in good threlling-houses, where every sound was distinctly heard ; yet the woman was never heard to scream, or make the least noise. Then as to the time. Was it likely that a murderer would select a time when all Christi. Europe was wringing with preparations for the holy festival of the Redeemer ? He I thought no man could commit a murder on such a night—it ' was blasphemy to suggest it ; and, in his opinion, it would be infidelity to believe it. No one could be a Christian who could believe such a monstrous crime. If it were true, it would be a libel upon all religion. He would show that the inhabitants of Nos. 5 and 7, the prisoner's house being No. 6, were at home the whole of the 24,h December. This course was objected to, unless Mr. Adolphus was de clared entitled to a reply. Mr. PRICE would then say that no one of the neighbours had been called before the Jury that day. He begged to, impress that fact upon the minds of the Jury as being a most impor tant fact, and he hoped they would bear it in mind and give it its due weight in their deliberations. He was anxious to save the Jury, wearied as they were, from hearing a reply, although he had no doubt they would be gratified, and perhaps instruc ted. However, he would now leave the male prisoner's case in the hands of the Jury, and he would proceed to say n few words upon the case, as made out against the woman Gale. She had been brought up respectably, in the lower walks of life, of ho nest parents. The child in the prison was not her own. The Corer said the Learned Counsel was stating facts, which was irregular. Mr. PRICE was obliged to the Court, and would en deavour to perform his most arduous duty as regularly as he possibly could. Ile was sorry indeed that she should have been placed at the Bar, when no more evidence could be brought against her than had been brought before the Jury. She was not proved to have been privy to the murder, as it had been called, for f,ur months ; she was not even connected with the concealment of the body. From whom would the prisoner (Greenacre) endea vour to conceal the murder, had it been so, more jealously than from the woman at the Bar, who was living with him in this lonely place. She was turned out of the house in order for the reception of the deceased. She was charged with aiding, assisting, and comforting the mur d, rer. Was that possible—she a woman much poorer than Greenacre himself—attempting to procure food for herself and child by the precarious and ill-paid trade of shoe -bindings. The haste and hurry of the male prisoner was all for the purpose of hiding it from the knowledge of that wometi whom he expected to share his exile, and who was to be his comfort through life. She was before the Jury firm and unchanged, while every one had noticed the change in Greenacre. Was it in human nature, that the weaker of the two should be firm and unmoved, while the other was shaken. Then the Jury had her character from the respect able persons with whom they had last taken up their abode, and it was a good one, notwithstanding the way in which she was connected with the prisoner Greenacre. They noticed no change in her—was that consistent with guilt. She was certainly entitled to the favour of the Jury, and he demanded it on her behalf, and he hoped they would give her the benefit of such an acquittal as would restore her to society, which she had not outraged. It then became his duty to surrender his task into better hands. He would leave the case in the hands of the Jury; and notwith. standing the great and overwhelming fatigue which they had undergone, he trused that they would calmly and dispassionately go into the whole of the manifold and intricate facts of the case. He had the most implicit con fidence in the Jury, and he hoped that all who had heard of these proceedings would not be shocked by the shuddering verdict of platy against the woman. lived great a in hti l a b n a d n k b , e s h a id ed Gale %vi t nu ef rse M , affection and attention during the whole time. So much so i Johnfam family Freeman, a a n , y setaorn as e mason, w et that Mrs. Freeman gave her a favourable character some months after. ...---- - Mr. - PRICE proposed to call witnesses to the charac ter of Greenacre, But Mr. Adolphus having stated if that he did so, he would claim his right of reply. The Learned Gentleman declined to call any. The LORD . CHIEF JUSTICE then commenced to sum up the evidence. He said the prisoner, James Greenacre was indicted for the wilful murder of Hannah Brown, and the Jury were to determine as to his guilt upon the evi dence which had been laid before them. It was of a contradictory nature. Some . parts went t o the more serious charge of the atrocious murder, and seemed to bear it out, while on the other hand other parts seemed to reduce the offence to a very atrocious case of manslaughter. He would read over the evidence, and then it would be for the Gentlemen of the Jury to determine what class the offence belonged to. He was inclined to think that the same serious charge might not be supported, with re spect to the woman Gale, if they found the male prisoner guilty of the murder, or whether they reduced it to manslaughter, she might be equally guilty of the offence with which she was charged. He then proceeded to read over his notes of the evidence, which will occupy a long time. [The Verdict is not expected to be given till a very late hour.] G THIRD EDITION. After the Judge bad summed up at considerable length, the'Jury retired for about ha If an hour, and returned a verdict finding Both Prisoners GUILTY. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS, APRIL 10. Tho SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour. Sir JOHN MORDALTNT presented a petition from the county of Warwick in favour of the North Midland Railroad. Mr. A. TREVOR brought up the Report of the Com mittee on the Durham and Sunderland Railroad. cognizance. He would now move that the Bill be referred back to the Standing Orders' Committee, for the purpose of reporting specially to the House whether the Standing Orders had bee❑ complied with or not. Mr. HUM E hoped the Speaker would give the House his -opinion upon the subject now before it. The SPEAKER tboug-lit that in every case where it was alleged that statements not founded on fact had bee❑ made be fore Committees, it was the duty of the whole House to inves tigate the matter. In the present case he would suggest that notice should be given of any motion the Hon. Member in tended to make upon the subject. After a few words from Mr. C. Barclay and Capt. Pechell, Mr. CURTE IS moved that the petition be printed. He gave notice of his intention to call the attention of the House to the petition to-morrow. On the motion of Sir H. PARNELL, the Dundee Police Bill was read a second time. Mr. W. CAMPBELL presented a petition from Greenock in favour of the Glasgow and Greenock Railway. Mr. WALL ACE presented three petitions to the same effect. WEST LONDON CEMETREY. Mr. HARVEY brought up the report of the Committee on the West London and Westminster Cemetery Company Bill. Mr. G. KNIGHT objected to the report being brought up and moved that the Bill be re-committed. After a few words from Mr. WARLEY and Mr. A. TREVOR, Mr. HARVEY said the objection appeared to be to the mortuary fees to be given to the Clergyman. It would ap pear that because this Cemetery was at the West end, the Clergymen thought he was entitled to a fashionable fee. He would have no objection to a fee on the ad valorem principle. The House would recollect that there were poor people as well as rich people at the West End, and it would be unfair to make the one pay as large a fee as the other. Sir R. INGLIS opposed the Bill. Mr. HUME hoped the House would allow the Bill to pro ceed another stage. Mr. GALL Y KNIGHT then withdrew his motion, the Report was received, and the Bill ordered to be engrossed. Mr. WALL-ACE gave notice that as no one would own the Cotton Yarn Company Bill, he gave notice that on Wednesday he would move that it be read a second time this day six months. Mr. A. TREVOR wished to know from the Chancellor of the Exchequer, whether it was his determination to proceed with the Church-Rates Bill on the 21st of May. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the Bill stood on the notice book for that day. He hoped to be able to bring it on, and he trusted it would be concluded then. Mr. TREVOR wished to ask whether the Government in tended to bring in any Bill, or do anything for the relief of the Coroners of Durham, whose case had been much altered by the Bishops Bill of last year ? Lord J. RUSSEL L—l hope so. DISTRESS IN SCOTLAND. Mr. HUME begged to ask the Chancellor of the Exche quer, whether it was true that and public assistance had been given towards the relief of the distress prevailing in the North of Scotland ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER did not like to answer questions of such a nature prematurely. However, the question having been asked, it was his duty to state that it was about a month ago the Government were made aware of the distress in certain parts of Scotland—they were also told at the same time that considerable sub scriptions had been entered into in various places, but that more assistance was wanted. After full inquiry the Government had sent down a valued officer of the public, Sir John Hill, with power to aid in extreme cases, but dependent entirely upon the amount of subscriptions and local benevolence and assistance. He hoped no further discussion would at present be provoked, as it might lead to the most mischievovs consequences; but at a fitting time he would be prepared to defend the conduct pur sued by his Majesty's Government. Mr. HUME thought no funds should have been advanced by the Government, while the House was sitting, without ob taining its sanction. THE ICE-BOUND WHALERS. Sir R. PEEL begged to know what the intention of his Majesty's Government was with respect to the ice-bound ships, on the subject of which he had presented a petition fr3m Dundee a short time since. Mr. BARING made a few remarks in reply, which were inaudible. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER observer], with reference to the conduct of Government in sending relief to the distressed poor of Scotland, that he had not acted in any way contrary to the usages of the house. Major BI4:AUCLERK believed the distress in Scotland had arisen from the want of Poor Laws in that country. REFORM OF THE CRIMINAL LAW. Sir E. WILMOT begged to ask the Noble Lord (J. Rus sell) whether it was the intention of Government to bring in a Bill, embodying the recommendation of the Commissioners, appointed to enquire into the state of the Criminal Law, re specting the ages at which boys were to be subjected to sum mary punishment ; or if he ( Sir E. Wilmot) brought in a Bill on the subject, he wished to know whether the Government would give it their support ? Lord JOHN RUSSELL said he believed the Govern ment had no intention to bring in any Bill on the subject; but if the lion. Baronet brought in such a Bill it would receive his (Lord J. Russell's) support, DECCAN PRIZE-MONEY. Mr. ROBINSON begged to know whether the Govern ment would give any information relative to the payment of the Deccan prize-money? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he would be prepared to answer the question to-morrow. SPAIN. Lord JOHN RUSSELL, with reference to a motion o which the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir H. Hardinge) had given notice, relative to the withdrawal of British troops from the service of the Queen of Spain, begged to say that the Hon. Member, who had a motion for Thursday for the abolition of the penny stamp on papers, had refused to give way, his Majesty's Government having felt it their duty to resist that motion on the ground that the experiment of last year had not yet had a fair trial. The Right Hon. Baronet would, therefore, have an opportunity of bringing the question bef ore th e H ouse on Monday on going into Committee of Supply, and he hoped he would not state the precise terms of his motion. Sir H. HA RDINGE would take care that he would be prepared on Thursday to state the exact words of the motion he intended to make. PATRONAGE AT THE HORSE GUARDS. Lord G. SOMERSET was sorry again to intrude on the House with the personal affair in which they had been engaged on Friday last; since then he had had a communication with Lord E. Somerset, who stated that as far as his recollection went he had never made any written application for a commission for Mr. Lovesey, and that he never had the slightest hope of obtaining Mr. Lovesey's vote by gettio7 him the commission.--( Hear, hear.) H e had also the denial of Captain Marshall that any political means had been used in obtaining the commission.—( Hear, hear.) However, the most important document which he held was from Mr. Lovesey himself, in which he stated that the charge brought against him, of the charge of politics, because he obtained the commission from the Beaufort family, was distinctly untrue. He had never been asked to make, nor had he made, any concession of political principle upon the occasion.. Capt. BEI? KELE Y had never said that M. Lovcsey made use of the words imputed to him in the .51,rning Chroni cle. What he said was that it had been communicated to Lord Seagrave that such was the intention of Mr. Lovesev, in the event of his obtaining the commission through the interest of the Beaufort family. That had now been denied by Mr. Lovesey, and he gave the Noble Lord the full benefit of that denial. The plain, broad, and simple fact that at an election which took place shortly after the commission was granted, Mr. Lovcsey voted Tory, whereas formerly he ' had always voted Whig.--(Loud cheers.) Lord G. SOMERSET would only remark, that the elec. tion did not take place till two years after the commission had been granted.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. HUME considered it very important that the Noble Lord should produce the application made to the Horse Guards by Lord E. Somerset. He had produced three let ters, but not that most important one. Lord G. SOMERSET would be mot t happy to produce such letter, if the Hon. Member would tell him how. The fact was, there was so such letter in existence. The applications made by both Lords Seagrave and E. Somerset were personal, and were so entered in the book kept at the Horse Guards. Mr. HUME—The Noble Lord had certainly led the House to believe that such letters were in existence, for he talked of a strict search having been made. It was the feeling of those who sat around him, as well as his own, that the Noble Lord intended to convey the impression that such letters had been in existence, and in his opinion their non-production made the case complete. Lord G. SOMERSET said all the documents in existence had been produced. Should any more turn up upon the sub ject he would be most happy to lay them before the House at any time. Mr. SCARLE TT contended that the Noble Lord (G. Somerset) had completely vindicated the conduct pursued by the Commander of the Forces. MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS (IRELAND). The Order of the Day for the third reading of the Municipal Corporations ( Ireland) Bill having been read, The O'Conor Don, Mr. J. Grattan, Mr. Maher, Mr. Chap. man, and several other Hon. Members, presented petitions from various places in Ireland, in favour of the Irish Alunicipal Bill. Mr. GOULB URN would have been happy to have been saved the trouble of discussing a question which had been already two Sessions under consideration, and would confine his re marks within as narrow limits as possible. The first obser. vation he should make upon the Bill now before them was this, that so far as it went to remedy the evil which was the foundation of their legislation upon the subject—so far as it went to the extinction of corporation, which were no longer suited to the altered circumstances of that country, it was im perfectly executed, and did not embody what he believed to be the almost unanimous feeling of the country, which was for the total extinction of these Corporations. Some Hon. Gen tlemen had maintained that the Corporations ought to be abo lished, not only because they were incompetent to the perfor mance of their several duties, but were corrupt in the adminis tration of them, both pecuniary and municipal. Now, he was of opinion that the new Corporations would, in addition, be corrupt politically. How then, if it were so, could his lion. Friend opposite ask Parliament to affirm the principle con tained in the Bill ? The boroughs selected, too, appeared to have been selected, not because they were boroughs of greater purity than others—it was not a question of greater or less abuse—but, whatever was the extent, it was sufficient, and punishment was to be inflicted equally on those that were guilty and . those that we re not gu il ty. Ile knew not on what principle „Gls was done. It was a most peculiar sort of justice fur Ireland that placed among the condemned the borough of Goree, and confirmed in alleits immunities the borough adjoining. He knew oot.on what ground this distinction was made. Again, too, while the Bill exempted from destruction considerable property in some places, in others it adopted a species of confiscation— giving it to other towns, having no claim on the property, and investing the new Corporations with considerable power for its administration. They would find in the Bill before the House that the different boroughs were dealt with out of no abstract considerations, nor according to any established rule. Theft! were 47 charters to be granted to these boroughs, and the Dili proceeded to enact what might be a matter of little linnet' , tance in a general point of view, but connected with the state of Ireland it became a subject of ,greater magnitude; it was no less than to vest in his Majesty's Government a power to incorporate any other town in Ireland which might solicit the privilege. He considered this a power which ought not to be vested in any Government, as the power of granting a charter of incorporation would be then left to the discretion of an in dividual. The franchise, according to the Bill, would in large towns be given to all who were rated as high as 10/., and in the minor towns to all who were rated as high as Si. in either case coupled with a residence of six months, and the payment of the customary rates. Now, any one that knesil that fact of the United Kingdom must be well aware of the class of persons who occupied tenements at such a rental, If they were not persons of the lowest grade, they certainly were very low, often times the victims of want, and liable to be influenced by any bigot or political profligate, who might attempt to bend them to his purposes. If, however, suppo sing the law to be fairly administered, and supposing the fran chise to be so managed as to render it impossible to commit fraud, even then the lower class of Irish would not be exempted from an influence which would operate upon them with great power. But the franchise wont& in all pro bability, not be fairly bestowed ; but as it was cdfrttpt poiitia cally, it would be corrupt municipally. Those called Open to vote would not all be bona fide 51. or 10/. householders; but the same frauds would be committed as in the election Q' a Member of Parliament, and tenants would be found to occupy any house in the place. Many of the dwellings would be let at 21. a week, and the vote would be claimed, whether the residence had continued for six months or not. In saying that the right of franchise was liable to be perverted, he need only allude to the facts elicited before the Parliamentary Com mittee, known by the name of the Intimidation Committee, He argued that if the political franchise was abused, the roue nicipal franchise might be abused also. The regular maeliie nery for an election would always be organised, and for thi large towns the Bills possessed the peculiar disadvantage, that yearly, or oftener, there would be a regular rehearsal for an election of Members of Parliament, every political evil would be perpetrated, and the result would be an unceasing animosity between the rival parties. Hostility would be kept alive, and . party feeling would never be permitted to slumber between one election and another. In giving these G.rporatims to tho towns it was giving power to a numerical majority, in whom would be vested all influence, and who would return only such Members to the Council as were exclusively of one religions persuasion, and thus the very evil attempted to be remedied by the abrogation of the old Corporations would be revived, By the means of these Councils a regular organised war wouttl be carried on against the Established Church of the country. In looking at questions relating to Ireland he thought it impossible to disconnect them from the prospects of the Established Church. To that Charch they must look for all amelioration and improvement in the condition of the Irish people ; and before they could place that people on a level with those of England greater efficiency and security must be given to the Establishment. Nothing could be more prejudicial to the interests of that Church than the placing in the hands of these Councils the means of cad's ing on a constant warfare against it. He firmly believed, if they' wished to benefit Ireland, it must be by placing the Clergy of the Establishment on a footing to enable them satisfactorily tá discharge their duties, and give them the means of regularly recovering their incomes, that they might live in peace among * , the people. Like some of those small patches of verdant ground to be seen in Ireland, commencing at the base of the bill, and gradually extending its fertile prospect to the eye, should be the refreshing influence of the Clergymen on, the people. This great national blessing could not, however, be anticipated if they allowed these organised Councils all over the country, stimulating each other to agitation. They were told the Bill was to be granted to Ireland because a similar measure hail passed in England; but he did not think llte situation of the two countries was similar. It was said thriA Ireland had the power to govern herself. He did not deny it, nor would ho be one to withhold that right from any palit.- cular class. So far from debarring them from such a privi lege, in the Bill that was before them last year the right of self government was acknowledged. That Bill gave the people the power of levying taxes for local purposes, and placed the funds in the administration of a resident body of their own choice. But he would ask Hon. Gentlemen opposite whether there was not a great distinction between the circa& stances of England and Ireland? and he would ask even fur. ther, whether, if they were alike, the English Bill had given a municipal constituency to villages ? In England, where a high degree of civilization existed, where the people obeyed the law through feeling less than from fear, guards had been devised against abuses in Municipal Corporations which were not thought of in the Bill for Ireland, where civilization wad less advanced and order less observed. But the main evil of the measure was the injury which it was calculated to do 418 Established Church in Ireland. The Noble Lord at the head of the Government in that House had said, on a recent occa sion, that nothing should prevent his adoption of measures for the perfect safety of the Established Church in Ireland ; but, notwithstanding that assertion of the Noble Lord's, it was not fair to call on the House to decide a question so se ' riously connected with it as Municipal Corporations for that country, until some more specific information had been laid before it.—( Hear.) There was another point to which lie wished to direct the notice of the House. It was the connection which the measure before them had with circum stances in reference to the other House of Parliament. When the subject was under discussion in the last Session, the Noble Lord at the head of his Majesty's Government in that House had called the attention of Hon. Members to the reasons urged by the other House for their rejection of it. In those reasons a hope was expressed that at no'very distant period a measure might be devised for the establishment of good local govern ments in Ireland, in which all parties could concur. The Noble Lord, in reading them, saw a hope in that passage of a reconciliation between both branches of the Legislature, and stated his desire to be to offer no unreasonable impediment to that probable result. How was it possible, he (Mr.. Goulburn) would ask, to reconcile the measure under consideration with the objections of the House of Lords ? How far was the Noble Lord's prediction justified by his motion ? The Noble Lord, instead of endeavouring to reconcile conflicting opinion, had now come forwa,rd, not with the measure which he was before willing to adopt, not Kith a measur?! calculated to tooth opposition or soften asperities, but with one which aggravated them by additional enactments, and which was still more than the former opposed to the views advanced by the other branch of the Legislature. He should oppose the motion with all his power. Mr. TANCR ED differed with the Right lion. Gentleman n his views as to the effect the Bill before the House would have on Ireland. He firmly believed on the contrary, that it was now the only means left of en to benefit that country. The present Corporations of Ireland held a very dishonour able historical and political position. In the first national Parliament which legislated for that country Sir Arthur Chi chester obtained from James the First the power of creating as many new boroughs as he chose, for the purpose of supporting the Protestant influence there. Forty-six were called into being by him on that occasion, and they had since continued the bane of Ireland. From their beginning to the prent hour they were found the ready tools of the oligarchy. So worth less, indeed, had they become that their abolition was univer sally agreed to. No party objected to it. The Church had been unwisely introduced by its pretended friends, who made it the stalking-horse of opposition, and thus attracted atten tion to all its defects. Did that contribute to its safety He would leave them to answer it, and pass from the subject. The population of Ireland was divided into parties. By means of the difference of religion a wall of separation was built UP between them in political matters. Gentlemen on the other side of the House said that wall should not alone be preserved. but be built up higher than ever. He (Mr. Tancred) and those who supported the measure under consideration, thought that it would be prostrated with the ground, and that the con tending parties should be brought together, and then left to the influence of our common nature. A decided amelioration had taken place in Ireland. The people now began to feel a confidence in the English Government.—( Hear, hear.) Lie should give the motion his most hearty support. Mr. HAMILTON said that the proposition of the Noble Lord was now supported by two classes of persons—both in and out of Parliament : those who were anxious, and avowed themselves anxious, to advance the democratic principle and influence ; and those who were seeking to strengthen the Re man Catholic interest, with a view first to the subversion of the Established Church, and with a view afterwards to other and ulterior objects. Now it was precisely because he (Mr. Ha milton) thought that the one ought to be strenuously resisted, and the other strenuously restrained, that he felt himself com pelled to vote against the measure. Again, because it was said by the opponents of the measure that, by the opportu nity which these new Corporations would afford for a gitatior! , the danger to the Established Church would be increased, an attack was immediately made upon the Established Church. It was said to be the ob s t ac l e i n th e way o f goo d g overnmen t —that it was interposed between the people and their rightslrat that the people have a right to good government—and that they could not obtain it because of the Established Church. In that argument there was a fallacy and an assumption. C .i. r o tainly the people had a right to good government—it w:!g. consideration which society was bound to render to individuals for their conformity to its ordinances and regulations; buse,!: was assumed in the argument that good government and a _lt e government were identical; whereas it was precisely bee u _ nt under existing circumstances, in Ireland self-governn;__ would not be good government that he (Mr. Hamilton)t desirous to withhold it. It had likewise been urged tha le friendly contact of persons whom a difference in political d° t o c ivn ing had hitherto kept apart would be useful in softening a i t these asperities, and creating a milder and better feelingn.. _ ot was precisely because they were calculated to increase a en ci sio u ns to diminish—to perpetuate and not to extinguish—di G re at in Ireland, that he for one was opposed to the measure. ncy °f stress had been laid, and justly laid, upon the exec .hat pro _ assimilating the institutions of the two countries. t position, as a general proposition, he was inclined In that agree ; but dissimilarities had been pointed out n iunicip al vented the application of the rule to the case 2 v °et adverted Corporations. There was one dissimilarity not y u pon to, and which appeared to him to bear very materially la .7 the subject. He was happy to have the opportunt !... °f io p u o s in o t ; ing it out, because it was unconnected with any i r t ' ; cousis" a political dissension. The dissimilarity he alluded to difference in wha the might call the -comparative statistic. co . of the population of the two countries. England was Al, APRIL 11, 83;.