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PARLI AMENT, HOUSE OF LORDS, APRIL 18. Lord PowEnscoußT took the oaths and his seat. A person from the Commissioners of Richmond-bridge pre sented their Cash Account for the year 1822. The Marquis of HUNTLEY presented two petitions from the County of Inverness, the one complaining of the distressed state of Agriculture, and the other complaining of the duties on :the import of barilla being taken off. The Earl of ESSEX presented a petition from the Gentry, Freeholders, and Clergy of the County of Essex, complaining .of the distress of Agriculture. The Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition from the Clergy and Archtleaconry of Chichester against the Cathholic •Claims. The Noble Duke expressed himself of the same opi ssion with that of the petitioners. The Mequis of CA MDEN presented three petitions froin the Hop-planters of Leominster, Bromyard, and from one of ,the Hundreds of Sussex, complaining of the Duty onflopS. Lord VALTHORPE presented a petition from the Land holders of Suffolk complaining of Agricultural Distress. Also a petition from the Inhabitants of Gosfortb, in'-the same county, for a Law for the more speedy recovery of Striall Debts. Earl FORTESCUE presented a petition froin Tavistock ay;ainst the Duties on Coal carried Coastwise. The petitions were read, and ordered to lie on the table. .FOREIGN AFFAIRS.: . e Earl of LIVERPOOL said, that consequence of the questions put to him yesterday, he had availed himself of the interval. which had elapsed, and should now be . enabled to give answers to them. And first, with respect to the papers which were asked for. The answer of the Plenipotentiaries of Aus tria, Russia, and Prussia to the three questions submitted by France, there was an objection in point of form to placing that document on their Lordship's table. The " copy of all the dispatches of M. de Chateaubriand to the French Minister at Madrid, which have been communicated to the Spanish Minis ter, and particularly that which the Count de la Garde Tied to his Catholic Majesty in February last,"^ there would b 6 no ob.. jection to giving. There would be a very material paper rela tive to the a declarations made by this country to the 'Allies since 1820; to induce them to abstain from interference in the affairs of Spain," which would be laid before the House, and also the copy . of the instructions prepared for the late Secretary for Foreign Affairs of which his N4.ble Friend (the Duke of Wellington) afterwards received. .This would clear up . any little misunderstanding which might remain on that point. 'With respect to furnishing copies of all communica uotis between the Spanish and English Governments in which the latter accused the French of fomenting disturbances in Spain, there but one dispatch in which the subject was alluded to, and that would be furnished ; but there had been no formal communication made by the Minister at Madrid to the Se cretary of State for Foreign Affairs. This negative, of course did not apply to general information, but communications from Government, of which he would repeat there were none, though the Spanish Government had been courted to make them. The answer of Mr. Secretary Canning to the Duke of Wellington's dispatch, containing the three questions of the French Govern. ment sent before the 6th of December, he (the Earl of Liver pool) would beg to defer speaking of until Monday, when, if it could be pmduced it should be laid on the table. In reply to the Noble Marquis (Lansdown) last night, he (the Earl of Liverpool) had said that no information bad been received by the Duke of 'Wellington after the 30th October, as to the cause of quarrel between France and Spain. He (the §arl of Liver. pool) of course meant that no official information had been re ceived. The several dispatches, in which the neutrality of Portugal was assured, would be produced on Monday next, at which time all the other Papers he had mentioned would be laid on the table. The Marquis of LANSDOWN said, he meant to ask for the communication of any information of an official nature which had been given to the Duke of Wellington between the 30th October and the 12th November ; for, from the different wording of the subsequent dispatch, he must have received 'some such information, and it was quite Impossible but he must have communicated it to his Majesty's Alinisters_, for be (the Marquis of Lansdown) was quite sure the Noble Duke would not have been guilty of an omission so gross as the non communication would be, when he knew that his Majesty's Government. were in a state of as great ignorance as he had been bimSelf. As to the other point—the apparent omission fur six weeks, by Mr. Secretary Canning, of one of the most important communications ever made—he meant that of the 22d October, by the Duke of Wellington, he (the Marquis of Lansdown) now'understood that there were intermediate com munications, and which the House might expect to have been produced. But what he thought the House ought to have was, the first impression made on the minds of the King's Govern ment, and therefore he thought their Lordships ought to have the first instructions which they had forwarded to the Duke of Wellington on the occasion. He contended that it would be giving a most false view of the subject if the first instructions to the Duke of Wellington at Verona, after the Ministers had attained a knowledge of the real state of things, were not com municated. Lord ELLENBOROUGFI said, that he had observed in the newspapers a speech of the Ring of Spain to his Cortes in 1821, in which he told them th a t the Congress at 'Jaybird' bad given him assurances that they had no intention of acting hostilely against Spain. If this had been communicated to his Majesty's Government, the paper containing it ought to be laid on the table of the House. The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, he might have forgotten it, but he had no recollection of the existence of such a paper, and he believed that no such paper did exist. The Earl of DARNLEY said, that he had looked through all the papers, but could not find any ground for the expecta tion that peace would be preserved between France and Spain, and he could not conceive on what grounds his Majesty's Mi nisters had founded their expectations after the meeting of Parliament; but at last, on the 81st of March, all hopes were abandoned, and a dispatch was sent to Sir Charles Stuart. What he (Lord Darnley) wished to know was, whether any formal protest against the whole of their proceedings was then delivered by Sir Charles Stuart to the French Minister ? Sdine such thing, he hoped, had been done, for the honour of the country ; and if it had, he trusted the document would be laid on the table. Lord IIOLLANI) professed no desire to press for the pa pers, to the production of which there was an objection in point of form ; but as to the other point, it clearly appeared from the dispatch of Mr. Secretary Canning to Sir Charles Stuart, in page 45 of the papers, that Spain had alleged certain grievances; the words were—" Spain, on her side, has, or professes to have, grievances to plead against France of similar intermeddling with her people and her army. She alleges that France has encouraged dissension and disaffection at Madrid, and that she even, by money and other means, fomented and stimulated the tumult of the 7th of July." Indeed, the transmission of money to the disaffected in Spain was notorious to every per son ; there was not a merchant but what was fully aware of it ; nay, he believed that Monsieur Villele had had the can dour almost to admit it. That being the case, he (Lord Hol land) thought it must have reached the knowledge of his Ma jesty's Ministers in some shape or other, though perhaps not in written documents ; and if' so, he hoped the Noble Earl (Liverpool) would have the candour to state it. The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, he could only repeat that there were no such communications, except that would be laid on the table; hut he (the Earl of Liverpool) did not deny that such acts had been done as the Noble Lord stated by France ; but what he Meant to say was, that there was no official cam nninication made by the Government of Spain. Lord HOLLAND said, all he wished to get at was the grounds of Mr. Secretary Canning's allegations in the letter to which he had referred. Ile was persuaded that after a careful reading of the Papers, it would be found that the miscalled pacific assurances of France was nothing more than obtaining a little longer time for their experiment of fomenting insur revdons. The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, that he had never denied that France might have instigated insurrection at Madrid ; all he denied was, that the Spanish Government had made any official communication of the fact. Lord TIOLLAND expressed himself perfectly satisfied with the answers of the Noble Earl. Lord ELLENBOROIIOIf said, the Noble Earl (Liver pool) on the first day of the Session had stated, that Spain had declared she never would attempt to extend the principles of ter Constitution ; and as Papers were on the table, in which the King of France had disavowed all views of aggression, he thought it would be hut fair, if it were in a written document, that the declaration of the Spanish Government should also be laid on their Lordships' table. The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, the moat material of the document.s, in which that declaration of Spain ivairmade, had heed published ; it was distinctly asserted in the answer of the Spanish Government to M. de The Earl of DA RNLEY said, from the Noble Earl's an swer he inferred that he (the Earl of Liverpool) had no such document. The Earl of LIVERPOOL gave notice of a motion on the subject of appeals for Friday selmight. The Earl of DARNLEY gave notice of a motion on the -.subject of our Naval Force for Monday next.—Adjourned till Monday, HOUSE OF COMMONS. Mr. DICKINSON presented a Petition from some Clothiers iu Somersetshire against some clauses in the Warehousing Bill. After a few words from Sir T. LETHBRIDGE, the petition was ordered to be printed. GAME LAWS. • Lord CRANBORNE (we think) brought up the Report of the Committee on the Game Laws, which he moved be printed. He then gave notice of a motion on the subject. Mr. RICARDO presented a Petition from the Land owners and lieritors of the county of Fife, praying for a re mission of the Duties on Stones carried coastwise.—Laid on the table. Mr. BANG presented Petitions from the parishes of St. Anne and St. Giles, Middlesex, complaining of the very. oppressive Duties on coals, and praying for relief.—Laid on the table. ROMAN CATHOLIC QUESTION. General GASCOYNE, seeing the Right Honourable the Attorney-General for Ireland in the House, wished to ask him a question. He wished the Right llonourable Gentleman would have the goodness to inform him whether it was his intention to renew the measure which the House had 'under consideration last night. Ile was anxious. to learn something certain as to the course the Right Hon. Gentleman intended to pursue, as he was aware the result of the discussion of last night was not such as to satisfy him (Mr. Plunkett.) At present the question stood in the na t ur e o f a n a djo urne d one.—(Cries of " No, no:") Mr. PL UNKETT said, that though the result of last night's discussion was not what he could have wished, yet certainly the question was not an adjourned one, and therefore could not be renewed without a notice. lie had every disposition to satisfy the Hon. Member's inquiries, but on a question of such importance he could not be expected to be prepared to state, in answer to a question thus suddenly put, what his future con duct this session with respect to it might be. That would in a great degree be influenced by the judgment of others. H e felt he had little discretion to exercise upon it. It was confided to his care by those who felt the. greatest interest in it, and he stood, therefore, with respect to it, in the nature of a trustee, whoseactions must b e gover n e d by the opinions of those whom he kne to be the friends of the measure. For his own part, and fro n what he could yet learn of the opinions of his friends, 1 he would say that he was not prepared to renew the notice this session. General GASCOYNE said, the reason why he had troubled the Right Hon. Gentleman with a question on it was the great importance of the question itself, and his knowledge that if it were to,he renewed, many Members would be anxious to be present. Another Mg:MIER was about to make some remarks, when Mr. CALCRA FT rose to order. If the House wished to have a conversation of this nature proceed, it could so ; but if such was not the wish of the House, it was better it should rest here, as the observations of Members on one side must lead to remarks from those on the other. Here the matter dropped. The . General Turnpike Act went through a Committee, and the report was received and agreed to, and ordered to be taken into further consideration on Monday. Mr. F. LEWIS said, it was his intention to refer the Bill to a Committee up stairs. THE LATE KING'S LIBRARY. Sir C. LONG brought up the report of the Committee app pointed to , consider the appropriation of this library. On the question that it beprinted, Mr. J. C. HOBHOUSE said, he wished now to give notice, that at a future stage of this measure, it was his intention to state why he considered that the proposed appropriation of the Lihrary would not be found to be most convenient. Sir C. LONG said, the Committee had recommended the giving the books to the British Museum, as the most appro. priate way of disposing of it. The further stage of the business would be the best for stating the Hon. Gentleman's intention. The report was ordered to be printed. NAVAL AND MILITARY PENSIONS' BILL. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the third reading of this Bill. Mr. GRENTELL opposed it as a very bad bargain for the country. Mr. MANNING defended the conduct of the Bank. Mr. PEARSE followed on the seine side. Sir JOHN NEWPORT contended that this bargain with the Bank was a direct violation of the statute of William and Mary, which prevented the Bank from becoming a dialer and jobber in public securities. The. CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER repeated his former arguments in defence of the bargain which he had made with the Bank, and contended, that. if it had been made with the Commissioners of the Sinking Fund, it could not have been made on more advantageous terins. He likewise maintained, that there was no difference of operation between the Bank's dealing in Exchequer. Bills, as a now did, and its d ea lin g i n funded stock to the extent which this measure authorized. Mr. HUME wished to be informed, why this bargain with the Bank had been made in a hole and corner, secretly, and without any public competition. The Right Hon. Gentleman's predecessor in office had given the public a pledge, that any bargain which he made for the sale of these annuities should always be made publicly, and be opened to the widest competi tion why had the Right Hon. Gentleman abandoned that pledge ? 'The price, at which the bargain had been completed, was in his opinion detrimental to the public; and he thought that, except in the House of Commons, no 133 reasonable beings could be found to sanction it. He theretbre called u pon the House to reject the measure now before it, and by so doing to break off the secret contraband trade which at present existed between the Chancellor of the Exchequer and the Bank. In conclusion he moved that this Bill be read a third time this day six months. Mr. MABERLY shortly seconded the amendment. Sir J. YORKE said, that as he did not understand more than the four first rules of arithmetic, he would not pretend to compete with the great arithtnaticians whom he saw around him, or compute the profit or loss which was likely to accrue from this bargain. What appeared strange to him was this—why the bargain had ever been made at all.—(Hear o—The reason of his rising at present was to ask the Right Hon. Gentleman below him a question, and that question was this—as the dead charge was to extend itself over 40 years, did he intend that at the end of that period,every spectre of it should be defunct?— (Hear ! and a laugh 4) and if he did, what was to be done with those persons who were daily and hourly coming upon the half pay 1; st P.-4A laugh.)—He could understand the policy of the plan, if at the end of the 40 years every man on half-pay was to he 49 dead as Julius Cesar.—(hear, hear! and a 1augh.)....- But that was not likely to be the case; there was a constant sup! ly for the half-pay list. His - Hon. Friend below him (Sir G. I:ackburtf, we believe) could inform the House, it' he chose, thrtz scarcely a day passed without some officer coming on the ha;.'-pay from the 200 Admirals, 800 Captains, and 3,000 Lieu ted arts who had rank in the British Navy. :;Ir. RICARDO did not blame the Directors of the Bank of Eland for making as advantageous a bargain as possible for their constituents the proprietors. It WM, however, extremely ii) :provident on the part of Government acting for the country. I thought that there was also a constitutional objection to t':e contract founded on the nature of the charter of the Bank, :Ind the manner in which the capital was made available to the public. It seemed to him highly impolitic that the Bank of t;ngland should be allowed to snake specplations in the funds; they might much more safely deal in commodities, such as rum, Sugar, or coffee, than in public securities, which of late years had been such a source of gambling. At all events, it was clear that Ministers ought to have delayed the..conclusion of the bargain Until they hadlaid the papers regarding the late nego tiations upon the table : had they so waited, the bargain might have been more favourable to the public. He wished to know whether the Bank was also to be allow to charge for the ma nagement of this transaction as well as the management of the public debt. Mr. HUSKISSON answered, that the Bank was to be al. lowed nothing beyond the terms of the contract which were before the House. Ile then proceeded to contend that the bargain was advantageous for the public. Mr. RICARDO explained. Mr. H. GURNEY opposed the third reading. Sir F. BLAKE also gave it his decided resistance. Mr. MONCK suggested that the contract was in violation of the Statute 5 Williatn 111., c. 30, which prohibited the Bank from lending money on Crown Lands ar public securities. In his opinion, as it walla matter in which they were peculiarly in terested, the Directors and Proprietors of the Bank who were Members, ought not in delicacy to vote. The House then divided— _ For the Third Reading . 140 Against it - - 91 Majority - Lord MILTON presented ,a petition, as was understood, from the Archdeaconry of Cleveland, in favour ,of the Rbman Catholic claims. Also a petition from certain Clergy of the Diocese of York in favour of the same uestion. FOREIGN AFFAIRS. Mr. MACDONALD gave notice, that on Monday se'nnight (the earliest open day) he should bring forward a motion upon the papers lately produced by the Right Hon. Secretary for Foreign Affairs. 'The motion would probably take the form of an Address to the Crown. lie hoped that Right lion. Gentle. men, teeing the propriety of expediting the 'day of such a dis. cussion as much as possible, would take care rmt to propose any thing for Monday se'nnight which should take the Hou se out of his hand. If he was not misinformed, Mr. Macdonald added,. the Rouse of Lords was in possession, or was likely immediately to be, of some information beyond that upon 1 which his motion was to be founded ; and he wished to know whether the Right Honourable Foreign Secretary would add that information by way of supplement to the papers before the House, or whether be (Mr. Macdonald) should move for them in form. Mr. CANNING said that he himself would undertake to move for the papers in question. AGRICULTURE. Mr. COKE presented a petition from the Land Owners in the vicinity of Norwich, praying for IN reduction in the duties on Malts , - Mr. Alderman Wpon and Mr. WODEHOUSE supported the petition. IRISH TITHES. General HART presented a petition from the County of Donegal, agreed to at a meeting convened by the Sheriff, in favour of the bill for the Commutation of Tithes. Lord MOUNTCHARLEs differed from the petitioners in the view they took of that bill. • CRIMINAL LAW. Mr. BROUGHAM, on the part of his Honourable Friend the Member for Lincoln (Mr. J. Williams), gave notice of a motion for the 2d of May to extend that law which made a Quaker's affirmation receiveable in a Court of Justice from civil to criminal cases. MERCHANT• VESSELS' APPRENTICE BILL. On the motion that this Bill should be read a third time, Mr. H. GURNEY said a few words which were not heard in the gallery. Mr. RICARDO considered the Bill to be a violent and un necessary interference with private rights. It imposed a re. striction upon a particular necesssity, and no such necessity had been show. The Honourable Gentleman concluded by moving, as an amendment, that the Bill be read a third time this day six months. Sir I. COFFIN advocated the principle of giving every pro tection to apprentices. The best sailors in the world were those made in the coal trade. lie particularly approved of that clause in the Bill which protected the trecond mate of a merchantman, as well as the chief mate, from being impressed. Mr. HUSKISSON said, that the Bill had given universal satisfaction to the maritime interest. He believed that the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Ricardo was the only man in the House who opposed it. The only objection which he had heard to the Bill from any person connected with the shipping interest, had come flora a gentleman at Yarmouth, who said that i lie should like the measure very well in case of war, but that he had rather be without it in time of peace. Mr. ANSON said a few words. I%fr. HUME supported the amendment. 11r. R. BERNAL did not immediately object to the Bill, but he questioned the propriety of the principle assumed for its support. Mr. G. BENNET and Mr. MONCK spoke in favour of the amendment. Mr. CROKER, Mr. GLADSTONE, and Mr. MARRYATT, supported the Mil. Mr. RICARDO said he would not press the amendment to a division. Mr. W. SMITH had no immediate objection to the Bill; but he hoped to see the time when the*country would be ena bled to throw out the custom of impressment altogether. The'Bill was then read a third time. 111r.1.1USEISSON moved a clause to be tacked to the Bill, to make the apprentices now indentured apprentices under . ,the Bill. After a short conversation, in which Mr. RICARDO, Sir I. COFFIN, and Mr. CROICEIt took part, the clause was agreed to.—Read a third time, and ordered to be added to the Bill. Mr. I - ILTSKISSON then brought up a clause exempting the transfer of seaman's apprenticeship indentures from the stamp duties. After a few words from Mr. flusitissorr, Mr. MARRYAT, and- Mr. BRIGHT, this clause was added, and the Bill was passed. COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY. The House then resolved itself into a Committee on the Mis. cellaneous Estimates. On the motion that 499/. be voted for repairs done to Henry I.'s Chapel, Mr. HUME said, he wished to Woe that opportunity of ask. ing whether any of the Right Hon. Gentlemen opposite could suggest a mode of facilitating the entrance of the public into 'estminster Abbey. The monuments contained in that build ing were the property of the people of England. A sum had been voted by the House for the purpose of cleaning them, and still an exorbitant tax of 2s. per head was demanded by the clergy of that establishment from such of the public as were de sirous of seeing monuments which really belonged to them. selves. This custom, which prevailed in no others, he thought was a disgrace to this country. If the clergy of the cathedral were so poor as not to be able to keep a person- to protect those monuments from tile injury done by visitors, the House should grant a sum for this purpose. Mr. LUSHINGTON supposed the Hon. Gentleman was aware that the fees were, now the property of a person who had purchased of the. Dean and Chapter the privilege of showing the monuments. Mr. CROKER entertained great doubts of the legality of demanding money from persons visiting the cathedral. Every one knew that at the time the church was first built, it, as well as all other churches in the kingdom, was open to the public. lie had searched with some care, but he had not been able to find any authority by which the churches were closed. He was aware that the parson was said to have a freehold in certain parts of the church, but he believed that he had no right to shut it up—his authority was limited to its custody and pre servation. He bad no doubt that this method which the Dean and Chapter had practised of raising money was illegal, inasmuch as it was without the authority of Par liament. The same spirit which prompted them to this practice had also been displayed on a recent occasion. A few trees had been growingln the churchyard, and as they were perhaps the only things that were really unbuyable, they had not been sold ; but upon the occasion of the Coronation, the Dean and Chapter hail been so greedy, or so ill-advised, as to cut theiri down, for a show which did not last half an hour, and for an emolument of not more than ten pounds. Mr. WETHERELL , said, that whatever doubts might ex ist as to the right of the public to admission to the Cathedral, it was a question which he should not wish to see pushed to its legal extremity, as the consequences might be mischievous. Mr. W. &Uhl' said a few words, which were inaudible in the Gallery. • • Mr:IIUME said the public either had or had not the right for which lie contended If they had, lie had no idea of a corn promise. —That was it method which might suit lawyers, but he did not approve of it. He would ask the Right lion. Gen tleman, the Secretary for the Treasury, whether lie was dis posed to try the question ; if he would supply the money, he (Mr. Hume) would set the affair in motion. If the decision of a Jury should be ultimately against the public, they would only be reduced to the necessity of buying it, for the Dean and Chapter would sell any thing,—they had sold the trees and the stones. _ _ Mr. LUSHINOTON made some observations in a very low tone—after which _ Mr. CROKER explained. Mr. WYror and Sir J. NEWPOIIT severally said a few words, when the reSolution was agreed to. A vote of 10,0001. for the works at the College of Edinburgh was then proposed. • Mr. lIUME did not rise for the pnrpose of opposing the re solution, but to require so►ne explanat►on of an item of 1,043/. for granite; he was at a loss to know how this arose, as the ex port duty was taken off. The report which he held in his hand presented a singular appearance ; it had no less than four cuts. If the person preparing it thought the House would be delight ed with such cuts, or thought them neeessary, he was much mistaken. it was now too late to object to them, but he hoped they should not in future be regaled with engravings of so ordi nary a kind. LUSHINGTON agreed that the expence of these en. gravings was an unnecessary one. SMITH expressed his regret, .that a sum had not been voted in aid of a monument, which it was proposed to have erected near Edinburgh. A subscription had been set on foot for that purpose, but it was not sufficient; and when applica. tion was made to the House, for a grant of about one.fifth of the whole expence, i t was refused, and the work could not be carried on in consequence. He hoped that the individual ho had moved for that sum would not lose sight of the object. - - After a few words from Mr. W. DIINDAS a nd Mr. lIUME, the resolution was agreed to. The suns of 12,8471. was voted for the'expence of sundry works executing-at Portpatrick. . .On the motion th at 25,000/. be voted for the purpose of com pleting the works of the Caledonian Canal, Mr. HUME rose and expressed his regret that session after session they were called on to grant money for this object. Three years ago 20,000/, we re voted ; the year following the suns of 20,000/. was called for, and he, wishhig to cover the whole expence, advised them to ask for 40,0001. Last year, however, they called for 25,000/. more, and now a fresh 25,000/. was,dernanded. If he Were to judge of the way in which they proceeded, 200,000/. would not meet the expellee. If they intended to deepen the summit level, it would be at tended with a heavy charge indeed : he wished to know when there would be an end to disbursements under this head.' Sir HENRY PARNELL shortly pointed out the advan tages which were derived from the canal. The Honourable Gentleman had, he observed, fallen into an error with respect to this vote. The sums fonnerl3r voted were for the purpose of opening the canal and, if the Hon. Member would look at the estimates, he would find that the present vote was for deepen ing and further completing it. The Hon. Baronet then enu meraked the number of voyages which were made through the canal since October last, nna stated that a great deal of flax had been brought from Ireland to the linen manufactory at Aberdeen through that channel, while, on the other hand, a large quantity of herrings had been sent from Scotland to Ire land in the same way. Mr. HUAI E wished to know what was paid by the public, /and what money` was received from this canal which was ap plicable to meeting the expences incurred by it. He saw no reason why they should form a canal, at the expence of a mil lion of money, for the benefit of certain Highland Gentlemen, and well had they used them for it. They now came forward mad demanded remuperlition for damages alleged to have been done to their estates, whereas, in point of fact, 25,901. would purchase the whole line of the canal, which was clothing but rocks and bogs. He conceived that the public were very badly treated by these Highland gentry. They preferred claims for damage alleged to have been done to their estates, totally for ' getting the advantages they derived from the easy mode by which they could now transport their timber and other articles from their lands. Mr. ARBUTHNOT said, that some years ago he had pro posed a vote for completing the canal, when the Hon. Member (Mr. Hume) had expressed a wish that a larger sum should be asked for. %This was done, and the canal was in reality, com pleted, but some alterations and improvements were since deem ed necessary, and therefore Parliament was called upon for the additional grant. Mr. W. SMITH said, that when so large a sum had' been already voted, it would be bad policy to stop short now, and re fuse a grant which was of comparatively small amount. He belived that when a considerable sum was formerly voted, it was not stated that the canal would be by that grant completed and opened to its full depth for the whole distance. The chief expence was incurred by the formation of the locks ; they were formed for the reception of vessels which required 18 or 20 feet of water, while the summit level was only 12 feet deep. Mr. H. G. BENNET said the House ought to know dis tinctly how long it would be before this work would be corn. pleted. He would not refuse 25,000/4 he would, on the con trary, grant an additional 211,000/. to finish the work; but there certainly was a point at which they ought to stop. The ques tion was—whether they were not throwing good money after bad. It was intended that the canal should be navigable for frigates and sloops of war, but this was found impossible ; and but for the invention of steam vessels, the canal would have been totally useless. So much for the original intelligence which dictated the plan. ' Mr. HUME asked whether there was any estimate of the sum which would hereafter be required. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that he had read the estimate of the engineer with great regret, be cause from that document it appeared that 25,0001. more would be necessary for next year. He felt the force of the observa tions of the Hon. Member 'for Shrewsbury,. but he differed from him in thinking that they were throwing good money after bad. It certainly would be improper, having gone sb far, to leat'e the canal in a situation which was next to useless. He pledged himself, however, not to ask 4'or any more money until a distinct statement of the whole probable expence was laid before the House. Sir H. PARNELL said, that all the voyages which he had mentioned were made without the assistance of steam-boats— (Hear . _ _ Mr. W. SMITH paid a compliment to the Commissioners, who, he said, bad laid out the money with strict regard to the purposes which it was intended to effect. The Resolution was then agreed to. On the motion that 5,3001. be granted for building an Insol. vent Debtors' Court, Mr. HUME rose and inquired whether the present vote would cover all the charges of erecting that building. • Mr. LUSHINGTON answered that it would. The resolution was then agreed to. On the motion that 30,000!. be granted towards the expences of building law-courts in Westminster-hall, Mr. WETHERELL rose, and argued that it would be much better to grant 120,0001. at once, and to have the Courts immediately erected, instead of .having that sum distributed over a period of four years. He could see no reason why the courts should not be erected immediately. By the system now pursued, m uc h o f t h e t i me of the.Judges:was l ost to the public. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, th at the Court o f Ch ancery an d another Court would be finish edi by Mr. Saone, as that Gentleman had informed him, before next September, and the remainder of the works would be completed in the course of the ensuing year. The resolution was then agreed to, as were the following— That a sum not exc ee di ng 24,936 1. be granted for defraying the expences of the establishments on the Gold Coast for the current year. That - a sum of 5,214/. 17s. be granted for paying the salaries and retired allowances of the officers in the Alien Office. That a sum not exceeding 15,0001. be granted for carrying into execution the awards of the Mixed Commission for the abolition of the Slave Trade. That a sum not exceeding 18,7001. be granted for the remu neration and incidental expences of the Commissioners en. gaged in carrying into eff ec t th e treat i es f or t h e a b olition of the lave Trade between the King of Great Britain and Govern. ments of Spain,'Portugal, and the Netherlands. That a sum not exceeding 159,0001., be granted to his Ma. jesty, for defraying bills drawn, or to be drawn, for the Colony of New South Wales. Tluit aSunlnOtWieeding 2,4421. 10s. be granted to his Ma jesty, for defraying certain expences of the colonial depart. ments, formerly paid out of the extraordinaries of the army for 1823. That a sum not exceeding 6,2601. be granted to make com pensation to the Commissioners, appointed to inquire into the management and collection of the revenue in Ireland, and the several establishments connected therewith, in compensation for their assiduity, pains, and care, in the'discharge of the trust reposed in them by Parliament ; the same to be.paid without any fee or deduction whatever. That a sum not exceeding 5,0001. be granted for the support of the institution called the Refuge for the Destitute, for the year 1823 ; to be'paid without any fee or deduction whatever. That a sum not exceeding 3,2791. ss. be granted for defray ing the charges of the civil establishments of the Bahama Islands, for the year 1823. That a slam not exceeding 1,6221. is. 4d. be granted for de. fraying the like charges for the Islands of Bermuda, for the same year. That a sum not exceeding 8001. be granted for defraying the like charges for the Islands of Dominica, for the year 1823. That a sum not exceeding 12,2321. be granted for defraying the charges of the civil esta bli s h me nt s o f Up per C ana d a, for the year 1823. That a sum not exceeding 13,140/. be granted for defraying the expence of the civil establishment of Nova Scotia. That a sum not exceeding 0,1571. 10s. be granted for the civil establishment of New Brunswick. That's sum not exceeding 3,520/. 15s. be granted for the civil establishment of Prince Edward's Island. That a sum not exceeding 16,322/. be granted for th e c i v il establisment of New South Males. That a sum not exceeding 22,816/. 17s. be granted for the civil establishment of Sierra Leon. The House then resumed, and the Report was ordered to be received on Monday. TIIE COURIER NEWSPAPER. Mr. H G. BENNET said, that there had been put into his hand, a very short time back, the Courier news. paper of that evening, which pretended to give an account of the unpleasant transaction which took place in the House last night. As there were two holidays to intervene before the House would again meet, he took the ••present as the earliest opportunity of bringing the subject under its notice, as a state ment in its nature calculated to revive those unpleasant feelings to which the transaction of last night had given rise, but which had happily subsided. lie now felt no hesitation in saying, that he knew of nothing so bad, so false, and scandalous, or which showed more the malignity of the writer's heart, than the article in question. That it was false, must have been known to the writer, as the report of the debate in his own paper was directly the reverse of, and contrary to, his statement.— Here the matter dropped. The other Orders of the Day were now disposed of, and at a QUARTER tO ONE O'CLOCK the House adjourned to AlondaY. Orders have been sent to Brest to dispatch a frigate to Passage, in Spain. CORONEIei litou'EsT.—Yesterday evening an inquisition was taken at the Rose and Crown, Crown-street, Soho, before Tiros. Moos, Esq. Deputy Coroner for West minster, on the body of Mr. David Forsyth % aged 80 years, who was found dead in the hack garret of No. 10, Rose-street, on Tuesday last. On the Jury being sworn, they went to the house to view the body. Tne deceased lay stretched on the floor, his hand supporting his head, and having only a tattered shirt on him ; there was no vestige of table, chair, or bedstead. Sarah Ann Tomkins, a tenant of the deceased, stated that he had lived in the garret several years, and was of alniserable morose disposition. Witness had seen money, to large amounts in his possession, but not latterly. He had been known for the last 40 years to be in the same miserable state in which he was found dead.—George Tait, also a tenant of the deceased, in the house No. 10, Rose-street, stated that lie had known the deceased for some time. On Monday, last he saw him, and assisted him to his room-door; lie appeared rather intoxicated, but declared to witness he had or 4 drank a part of a pot of porter: on the following morning (Tuesday), witness saw him again ; he ap peared to be very ill. %V itness believed the deceased could have lived comfortably off his property. Verdict...." Died by the visitation of God.' PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS. HOUSE OF COMMONS. Veneris, 18° die Aprilis, 1823. INCLOSURE—Kirkby-in-Kendal ( Westmor- Bills read a2d land) time & CO'M GAS LlGHT—Northampton m il ted. RoAps—Kingston and Sheet Bridge—Power to Oommittee to send for persons, papers, and records. Kettering, tition, against, referred to the Committee on the Bill ; Bill read a second time, and committed. Greenfield—Petitio n from Saddleworth, against ; referred to the Committee on the Bill, Counsel ordered. BRlDGE—London—Petition from St. Saviour's, Southwark, suggesting the removal of certain buildings ; referred. CANAL—Edinburgh and Glasgow—Bill reported. SuaAn—Petitions from Persons connected with the Herring Fishery at Wick, and Planters, &c. of Edinburgh and Leith, AGAINST alteration of the Duties. I bl r RovEmEN TB—Leeds—Petition of Undertakers of the Na vigation of the Rivers Aire and Calder, against, referred to the Committee on the Bill, Counsel ordered. • TAT FERRIES ACT A MENDMEN T —Report On Petitio n for Bill read ; Leave granted to give Notices, and Bill ordered. Committee to report on Notices. WAREHOUSING BlLL—Petition of the Woollen Manufac turers of Somerset, against. GAME LAWS COMMITTEE—Report to be printed. ROMAN CATHOLIC CLAlMS—Petitions , AGAINST, &Or the Mayor, &c. of Newark-upon-Trent, and Clergy of the East Riding of York. ROMAN CATHOLIC CLAlMS—Petition IN r AVOUR thereof, from the Clergy of the Church of England within the Dio cese of York. RAlLWAY—Stockton—All who come to the Committee to have Voices. COAL DUTlES—Petitions from St. Anne, Lim ehouse, SL Giles- Report of Commissioners Pres ented; in.the Fields, St. George, Bloomsbury, and Honiton, against the Duties on Coals carried coastwise. on the table, and to be printed. of STONE DUTY—Petition from Heritors, &c. in the County Fife, against Duty on Stone carried 'coastwise; to be on the table. ame nd- CO TURNPIKE ACT AMENDMENT—SiII, as acne , to be printed. from County COMMUTATION OF TITHES (Ireland) —Petitio n of Donegal, against. GREAT SESSIONS IN WALES ISccond reading of the REGISTRY OF VESSELS deferred till Friday nest. to lie ORDERS OF THE DAY FOR MONDAY. 1. Tithes Composition (Ireland) Bill--Second Reading. 2. Warehousing Bill—Third Reading. 3. Grand Jury Presentments (Ireland) Bill —Report. 4. Quorum Magistrates Bill—Committee. 5. Charitable Loan Societies (Ireland) Bill—Committee.u. 6, Customs Duties (Ireland) Acts _Com mittee thereupo 7. Occasional Freholders Bill—S econ d Reading. 8. General Turnp i ke Act Amendment Bill—Further consi ration of Report. 9. Supply—Reporta, 10. Supply—Committee. 11. Revenue Departments Contolidation Bill —Report. 12. Church Rates (Ireland) Bill—Second Reading. 13. Witnesses Abroad Will—Committee. 14. Militia Reduction (Ireland) 13i11--Second Reading. 15. Ways and Means—Connuittee. 16. Weights and Alessures Bill—Report. 17. Division of Counties Bill—Report. NOTICE OF MOTION FOR MONDAY. ~e. Mr. Lushington—Civil Contingencies and Printing, a na ,l. ferred Miscellaneous Estimates. (In Cotomittee of Printing, , A L° lr rd . A V lacd isc O u n NOTICES GIVEN YESTERDAY. Thursday, April 24. n al t d_A Cran it bo dido rn ressnd e a — yo, l ll 3 Negotiations. Ailthi;rie°l3lle2agß.paleirszeretli:tiSnagletouftbGelinalatee. M erim r..kr al s c V u ill eg iam of s— t4 B e il s l a Friday, May 2. COMMIT' PRIVATE BILLS—SECOND RE RINDS for osa,. 1. Thame and Sydenham In- 7• stirliligsbire Boad9 closure B... Belfast Gas Litibt Con ton Inclosure 3. Horsham and era wley Road Ma rket 4. Tamworth Roads 10. Stirling Bridge 6. Helton Road 11. Oorbals m to e re fo n r d c e e r a? titnakceirvs:lacffiorsneiations,in. 6' Lyme ReXe Road I. arehts l . at one 12. .4. 1 C our t of klxchequer, at one. Irish cE9. sSft rSai: NrDs :doom, STOCKS PRICE 0 THIS DAY AT IN F. t)-ct.ocii• India Stock .................. India Bonds .................. South Sea Stock ............ Old Annuities. Ex. Bills. .............. Ditto Small ................... Bank for Act. ............... -- India for Con. Acct. • .... Cons. f or Acct. ............... 7 Bank Stock 3 per Cent. Red. 3 per Cent. Cons- 7 8 : 3a per Cent. — Old 94i I per Cent. { New 9 71 5 ,)er Cents. 1797 _ Rank Lohg A nu. 19} Imp. 3 per Cents. -- . 19 PRICE or FOREIGN STOCKS ix LONDON, f>r" AT ONE O'CLOCK. Five per Cents. 00. {Six per Cents. 00. Five per Cents. (Metallic) 00. . Neapolitan Ditto New 74. 1 Five per Cent. Bonds, 00. '. & Scrip, 00. Austrian Five per Cents. (Metallic) 0 0 . 1 Five per Cent. Honda, Ou. Spanish New Ditto, 30g. Scrip, 00 disc. ~ . . Prussian I - Five per Cent. Bonds , 82: 1. Ditto New, 81. Danish Five per Cent. Bonds, 84. Chili 083. Colombian Six per Cent. Bonds, 8433. Peruvian New Loan, 00. Bank Shares £2l tis. American Six per Cent. 90--9 8 . Five per Cent. 95i -97. Three per Cent. 70. —or? OIC' 1110 II WATER /or LONDON BRIDGE TO-31‘-'n a f t r 10, Morning, 3 minute s a ft e r 10. 1 Evening, 34 m inutes L ... „ 0 „ --.....,'"—.._.....------ French Ruu3ian THE SUN. _ SOLEM QUIS DICEnE FALSUM AUD.I).4 LONDON, SATURDAY, APRIL 19, 18--" which We V e haste n w w e IJAG A I UT N E : B TOTAL ENEAI N DlErtS.,AlC;ao73riidF,l44TpUr,iltlEl6.: ira..B;4llTl DEFEAT TP on RE T F D'AMAR A N T E ! !—DE FE A INTRecTyo::::is: l ou T l i N apie f f an D o E;: ye l : e i C sv : oe lt l i -ii i: ;i f ex t t o ra l c a t y lo r w F in E g accounts of these important Viet°ries' morning, T Op r Fr e o received the iv r ed un t i lll rs PORTUGUESE a .1 1 t COUNTD AM ANTE. k : Nr r b U o A e ß in f L o G re our Readers tile I°/' OREWSE, lifhlte/1 ' ' [This town is in Spain, on the banks of the Minh°, 01 the north p fron ti ers of Portugal.—Edit. of' THE 5U14.1 I this morning received news of the complete defeat o f die Pe _ r ; Lured Silveyra, (d'Amarante) by the Constitutional Portoe; troops, under the command of D. Louis de Keg°. A lt raiti well authenticated, and in every way worthy of c redit ; 1 - , s t it not deem it prudent to publish this intelligence, officialfearful should be found not quite correct in detail, bil l all I lose tirmation of this report having this moment reached m e, . , c , no time in rendering public this information for the tiatti.o7_ tion of the Province, which must be under apprehensions al te n : own tranquillity, as long 33 die insurrection in P° rtug mains unsubdued, A Ulna t hid The action took place at Amarante, and I un—ers turn 0 its the instant it commenced the reigimen t of Vsle"a E 4°