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Ordnma.—loSeph Xearsley, M.D. to be Assistant_ Sur. geon-General and Deputy InspcEtor of Hoal•itals Assistant-Surgeuris W. Kebby, N. Fitzpatri.k, 'V. Young, j. Scratchley, A 2, Thomas, N. P. Bradley, and E. Beck, to be Surgeons. Office aj ot diraNce, Feb. 29 Royal Regiment of Artillery.—Second Lieut. 1. Trotter to be First Lieutenant, vice Maitland, deceased. Second • Captain Robert Gardiner to be Captain, vice Rayttstord, resigned. First Lieut. C. Clarke to be Second Captain, "vice Gardiner.. Second Lieut. C. Drawbridge, vice J. C. Illoomtield. First -Lieut. P . Stanhope to be Second Cap tain, vice E. Walsh, deceased. Second Lieut. H. Mor gan to be First Lieutenant, vice Stanhope. •Ro)al Attiller► Drivers.-- White, Gent. to be Second • Lieut. vice Blair., promoted: - Regiment of Artillery, King's German Legion.—H. Baste!. i;,ann, Gent. to be. Second Lieutenant, vice Rietkugel, pronoted. M.. cal Establishment for the Military Department of the, Orthiance.—Second Assistant-Surgeons J. M regor R. J. Ambrose, G. D. Hiekes, R. Cooke, G. dap.: pier, G. Maurice, P. Vciiables, and 1. Miller, to be First Assistant.SUrgeons. BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED. John Roberts and Richard Roberts, Wood-street, Spits: fields, Middiesex, silk-manufadurers. BANKRUPT.O Charles Fairbone, New-street, Fetter-lane, London, mathe matical-instrument-maker and optician, to surrender March 7,1?, and April 14, at eleven, at Guildhall. At torney, Mr. Stott, G ray's-inn- sq Joseph Cliff, .Aston, Chester, linen-draper, March 9, at five, to, and April 14, at ten, at tl:c George inn, Leek, Stall-Ord shire. /Ural-Ines, Messrs. Killmister, and Challittor, Leek, Staffordshire; and tMess►s. Dewbery and Haslewood, Con- duit-street, flanover-square, London. Hamill Arnold, Cateaton. street, London, warehouseman, March 14, and April 14, at ten, at Guildhall. At. torney, Philip Hurd, King's Bench Walks, Temple. Edward O'Neill, Liverpool, Lancaster, cooper, March 17, IS, and April 14, at one,. at the Star and Garter Tavern, Paradise -street, Liverpool. Attorney, Mr. Avison," Han over -street, Liverpool. Frankland Coates and John Walker, Cheetham, Manchester, Lancaster, cam:mu-brewers, March 16, IS, and April 14, at two, at the White Bear Inn, Manchester. Attornies, Messrs. Sheppard, AdWigton, and Gregory, Iledford-row, London; and Mr. Law, Spring-gardens, Manchester Samuel Williams, Greenwich, Kent, to bacconist, March 7, 14, and A pril 14, at ten, at Guildhall, London. Attorney, Mr. Dixon, Nassau.street,.Solio. Matthew Stothatd, Saint lames, Gloucestershire, merchant, March 19, 21, and April 14, at twelve, at the Commer cial- Roorns, Small-street, Bristol. ' Attornies, Mr. Ed ward Stephens, Bristol ; and Messrs. Sweet and Stokes, I3asinghail-street, London. Martha Nash, Harlington, Bedfordshire, widow, grocer and .draper, ,March 9, 14, and April 14, at twelve, at Guild hall, Londi, A ttornies, ,Mr 'Townsend, Staple-inn, London ; and Mr. rade, Hitchin, Herts. Ral l tri Broadbent; • A .uicile:;ter, Lancaster ' vietualler, March id, z , , arid April 14, at eleven, at the Mosley Arms Inn, Manchester Attornies, Mr. Ellis, Chancery-lane, Lon. don ; and Mr. Morgan, Back Mosley-street, Manchester. Thomas Cood, Northumberland-street, Charing-cross, Mid dlesex, merchant, March 7, 2,8, and April 14, at ten, at Guildhall, London. Attorney, Mr. Charsley, Mark-lane, Fenchutch-street. Sarah Baines and john Gale Baines, Bradford, Wiltshire, -bakers, March t 6, at five, i 7, and April 14, at twelve, as. the King's Arms inn, Melkshain, %Viltshire. Attornies, Messrs. l•rowd and Co. Serle-street, Lincoln's-inn„ Lon don ; and Messrs. G. and F. Moule, Melksham, Wilt• John Buckley, Halifax, Yorkshire linen draper, March. 19, - Ito, and April 14, at eleven, at the White Swan Inn, Half. sax, Yorkshire. Attornies, Mr. Wiglesworth, Gray's inn London; and Messrs. Wigldsworth and ompson, • Halifax. Samuel Ic.,ttre Liverpool, Lancaster, timber-m...rchant, March 17, t 23, and April 14, at eleven. at the Globe Ta. veal, lohn•street, Liverpool. Atturnies, Mr. Thomas Windle, john.strect, iltdiord-row, London ; and Messrs. ninth" and Ilinde, Fenvvii.k.street, Liverpool. RiLiimd Cook, liedborough,,Wiltsnire, plumber and glazier, March IS, at '4, and April 1 4 , at eleven, a t t h e Bl ac k ilear on, Devizes, Wiltshire. Attornies . , Mr. Tilhy, Devizes, Wiltshire ; and Messrs. Nethersole and Portal, Essex-street, Landon. John Ernst Grob, College-hill, London, sugar-refiner, March 7. 17, anti Ap it 14, at eleven, at Guildhall. At.. tornies,- Messrs. Rose M uuniUgs, Gra}'s inn-square, Lincion. William -DeGlsworth, Scarborough, Yorkshire, grocer, March 2,r, and April 14, at eleven, at rite Bull inn, Scarbo rough, Yorkshire. A ttornic , , Mr. William Rosser, Hart- Jett's-buildinT,s, Holbarn o London ; and Mr. li. S. Rob _ son, S,..aiborough. john ;iryant and "i•hornas Catclipool, Ipswich, Sufklk, maltsters and rmr,hrlnts, :March it, 13, and April 14, at el2vt3i, at the 'k at and Crown, I pswtch, Sullblk. At_ tornes, illet , srs. Pearson and Bunn, Ipswich, Sutiblk ; amt. Mr. Sainuci Taylor, lohn-street, Bedford-row, Loudon. - [Di yidends, &c: to-morrow.] IMPERIAL EARL lAMEN2. HOUSE OF PT RS, TUESDAY, MARCH 3. in a Committee of Privileges their Lordships made farther progress in the discu,sion of the claims -to the Stratford P...erage, the further consideration of which was adjourned in the Committee till Tuesday se'nnight. The Howie being resumed, Prayers were read, and their Lordships preceded to forward the Bills upon the table. The Sugar Bounty Drawback Bill passed through ,a Committee, and was reported without any amend inent. The Revenue Penalty Amendment BUT was read n second time, and referred to the consideration of p See,c:t Committee. The Report of the Nottingham Fratre Breaking Prevention Bill was taken into consideration, and agreed to by the House, and the Bit ordered (as we heard the Noble Speaker) to be read a third lime on Friday. The Nottingham Watch and Ward Bill, the Southwark Clink Liberty Paring, and the Ipswich Road Bill, were brought up iron the Commons by Mr. LUSHINGT-ON, Sir J. GRAHAM, and other Mem bers, and severally read a first time. After disposing of some private business the House edjournvd till to-morrow. HOUSE OF COMMONS. 'TUESDAY, MARCH 3. Mr. WHARTON moved for a new Writ for the Borough of East L , w, in the room of Richard who had, since his election, ac cepted the office of Steward of the Chiltern Hun dreds. The Lottery Bill was read a first time, and or. dered to be read a second time to-morrow. Mr. W. POLE gave notice, that on Friday nest te would move the Supplies for Ireland in the Com mittee of Supply._ The Wootio-Basset Election Petition was post poned to the 44th. EMPLOYMENT OF FOREIGNERS. Lord FOLKESTONE gave notice of a'rnotion for Tuesday next, on the suhjett of the Employment of Foreigners in the British service. Seeing the Right Hon. Gentleman (the Chancellor of the Ex. clxquer) in his place, he wished to know whether the Commissioners for managing. his Majesty's pri rAC propeity were yet appointed. as reason for putting the question was, that he was given to up: detstand they were appointed, and that one of them was a Foreigner. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the ap;rointments had taken place, and one of them was a foreigner, the Commissioners being Mr. Simeon, Colonel Taylor, and Count Munsrer. MR. WALSH. - The SPEAKER said he felt it his duty to inform - the House that he had received another letter from Mr. Walsh, stating, that he was now able to come down to the House, and desiring an early decision on his case, the eat her the better. It added, that if the subject was not taken up before the expiration of a fortnight, he feared he should not be able to attend. BANKES said, that in consequence of- the in thitStion now made to the House, he would move to discharge the order for Mr. Walsh's attendance, as it _stood at present,- for the purpose of 'altering it to Thursday next.. The alteration was accordingly adopted. Notice was given of a motion, :or Thursday next, for papers relative to the prosecution of Captain Tomlinion. mepliits IN COUNCIL. _ Mr. BROUGHAM said he rose inconsequence of a notice he bad given to bring forward a motion af feaing the state of our commerce and nianufaelures, a motion which embraced so' vast and so compli cated a variety of detail, that if he had been aware of its extent at first, he doubted much whether he would not have consulted his prudence and relin quished his usidettaking. With su ch c laims to the indulgence of ilia House, he would only preface his observations with observing, that his obje& was to induce the House to. go into a Committee for the purpose of inquiring into this important matter. — He had to address himself to various descriptions of persons, all agreeing that the voice of this country was raised in complaint, and he hoped all were unwilling to say, that these complaints wcre with out foundation. until they were examined. Great difference of opinion existed as to Ilia causes of the present distress. Some disaoroved of the mea sures of 1806, which were followed up by the Or ders in Council of 1807. Others who approved of the further -Orders in Council might disapprove of the particular mode 'of relaxation which was adopted. Others again, who regarded the origi nal measures as a grand experiment of counterac tion to the policy of Friaice, would wish to examine its effeets. There was another class, of which be must acknowledge himself to be one, who, having condemned the whole from the commencement, were willing to skew that the prediCtions were ful filled even beyond their most desponding expecta tions.—Last of all, there was a class who, under valuing the commerce and rnanufaaures of the country, supposed that nothing was to be appre hended while agriculture was encouraged. all those different classes he had to address himself, and he hoped they would all concur in giving their voices for inquiry. His obje& was to inquire into the result of the experiment of 1807, *and to ascer tain whether it had oppressed or assisted the enemy ; whether it was not better that we should retrace our steps; or if we were to persist, that we should adopt a more effeanal,intelligible,and operative Mode ofen tot eiug out tucasurc3 against the commerce of France ? Unless they were'prepared to tell the people that our present evils were irremediable : that they were such as moat be endured by patience, rather than by hope, the House could not refuse the proposed inves tigation. The system upon which we had so long professed to act, was, in the outset, retaliation.— What then was the system of the enemy upon wind) it was a retaliation ? To sum up all in one word, it was a system of hostility to commerc e , a wish to sacrifice the trade of France to the destruc- tiun of the trade of England. It was true that, in some moments, while self,ring under the vexation of severe naval losses, Buonaparte bad expressed a wish for " ships, colowes, and commerce ; ' but--no sooner had- his mind resumed its tone, than be turned tothe prosecution of his favourite policy of sacrificing his own trade to the ruin of ours. Nay, he (Mr. Brougham) was disposed to go further, and say, that he had a hostility to commerce itself, with out any view to us, as if there was something in its nature injurious to his views upon the liberties of mankind. The conscription itself was inconsistent with trade; it was a sacrifi '7, of commerce to power, and the same diapos i ttion was manifested in the va- , rious measures of his Government, as well as its his answers to the petitions of his merchants. To them he had declared that ".it was too late in the day to think of trade ;" that the failure of their commerce was so mnch the better, for " he would have sol diers and peasants alone." It was also to be collet ed from the publication of his minister, Talley rand, in which he maintained the superiority of agri culture to commerce since the stormy period of the revolution ; the latter having a tendency to unite men, the former to separate, to dispirit, and, dis organize them. His system WQS war with com merce ; with commerce as with liberty ; with the mother as with the child ; with those principles which were favourable to the world he hated and inimical to the power he bad usurped. . He (Mr. B.) Was'not disposed to believe him (Buonaparte), or hisnew made Duke, upon their own bareavowai; tor it waa easy to suppose the case of a Prince and Minister of France presenting such a compound of villainy and fraud to the world, as to render us the more guarded in proportion as their vows and oaths were more positive and awful. But the system of Buo naparte being, from the evidence of facts,- such as he had described, they Were next to inquire what system it was natural for England to adopt on the other hand. The obvious.policy of England was to'encourage commerce by all means in her power, and to encourage the trade of neutrals. Not of the neutrals most contiguous to France, and therefore most exposed to i s power, but of that neu tral which was separated from France by an ocean, impassable to her, owning ,the same interests, and speaking the same language with England, and being the only nation, be side ourselves, in which freedom could be found. It was lamentable to consider how entirely the re verse of those measures was adopted. We had not only not done our best to secure the neutrality of that power, but we, had adopted a system against 'neutrals which went to oblige them immediately to declare for one side or other. He should say no. thing upon the negotiations still pending with that country, but could not help regretting having heard on a late occasion that the hopei of a successful is sne were represented as slender. But looking to tile effects of the system we bad pursued, they would find by the papers laid before the House in !SOD. that the whole of the imports and exports of 180 S, as compared with those of 18.07, fell short by no le a s an amount than fifteen millions. It was l'ound ne cessary in 1809 to substitute a blockade to a flamed extent, which was done by the measure of the 26th of April in that year. This measure be contended was in elfea getting rid by one sweep of the whole princi ple of the Orders in Council. The principle was to cripple the French commerce, but this, by open ing an inlet to their commerce, defeated the princi ple. As to the flourishing representations of our trade in 1809, he would set against theill the seiz ure of our vessels by the enemy in 1 s to, by ;which upwards of nine millions sterling was lost to this country. The seven millions Droits of Admiralty which we had taken from our friends and natural allies in the course of eighteen years of war, was more than counterbalanced by this fatal seizure of Buonaparte. He denied that Buonaparte had gone on relaxing his decrees after the paring down of our Orders in Council. In 1809 we relieved the pres sure on his commerce, and in 1810 he came out with two measures, ten thousand times more stria and more pressing on his commerce and our own. He riarculed the Bark Bill as an attack on ill:: hu manity of Buonaparte, by persons who had aI:A a)s denied him the possession of such a feeling. He should next proceed to state the fads on winch his inferences were built, though the' numberless lions preparing in.many parts of tIV-3 country, the list of bankruptcies, which was doubled since th e Orders in C .uncil, the list of the poor, which had increased in Liverpool to sixteen times its former amount, were faCtt which would bear him out, et en in the teeth of the papers On .the table. He cud not shut his ears.to the cries of the poor people ; he could-not be indifferent to the petitions that would . shortly come-from Warwickshire, Yorkshire, Not tinghamshire, and parts_of Scotland; nor could he look upon the returtw-of Mr..-Irvine as of greater authority.; he might be called the saviour of the nation ; the Gazettes might be represented as mi-,;-• taken; the country might be held up as flourishing, commercial, and gay, but it must 13:: in defiance of all those proofs of misery which obtruded themselves daily before our eyes. Bur lei them see what was he state of thingS in 1811, even by the documents of Mr. Irvine himself. The official value of the ex ports for three quarters of the year 1810, was 27,000,0001. The official value of the exports for the three corresponding.quarters of the year 1811, was only 16,00(;,0001. being a tailing off of eleven millions in the three quarters, and by calculation, a falling off of fourteen. or fifteen millions in the wnole year of official value; or about 21,000,0001. real value. The answer to all this, it seems, was that there had. been no considerable falling off in the exports of last year, as compared with the ex ports of 180 g. It would appear, however, that the the d4erence was-only two millions, and that the exports of ihe'three quarters of the year 1810 weie to the amount of nine millions less than the exports of the.three corresponding quarters of 180 g. But he would, go back to a comparison with 1808 ; the House w;ouTld recolle6l that that was the worst year of exports. The failing off of the exports of the year 1808 being fifteen milliurc„ as compared with 1807. In the "three quartets of 1808 the ex ports were eighteen millions. In !he three quar ters of 1811, sixteen millions, a difrerence in teal value of 2,500,0001. With resf•ett to the expos is to South Ametica, the House had only the Custom house returns, -which could not be considereu as a fair test of the real trade. By those returns, it ap peared that the official value of the exports in 1811, to America, exclusive of the United States 'and the 'West Indies, exceed those of the year 1807. by 8 millions. flow little harmonious was this state ment 11010 the Custom-house with the a&ual situa- tion of the country ! Those who did not pin their faith to Mr. Irvine's books, when they saw the wretchedness that prevailed in the country, could 11,4 help suspecting ethat those exports went to a market not open to receive t hem. - The great ex cess of importation in the succeeding year strongly confirmed this suspicion. He proceeded to consi der the relaxation of the Orders in Council under the name of Trade Licenses, a relaxation which sheweda complete want of confidence in the suc cess of the original measures. The increase of the licenseS was prodigious. In 1807, sixteen hundred. were issued; in 1811, no less than eighteen thou sand, thus subjeaiog the whole foreign trade of the country to a new system. What was • the natural result of these licenses as they of eded the enemy, neutral powers, and this country ? With regard to the enemy, in proportion to the extent of thelicenses was the principle of the Orders in Council aban doned. With regard,to neutral powers, the sys tem tended to benefit those alone who were under the influence of France, and to whom France looked for the support of her Marine.— With respeCt to this country, the effea on our shipping would be most apparent,. by a com parison of the British and foreign shipping employed in 1806, with the British and foreign shipping which had been employed in, 1810. By this com paiison it would appear ,that in that period the amount of foreign tonnage and foreign shipping had more than doubled ; being at-, the first period, 567,000 tons of shipping, and 29,000 seamen ; and being, in 1810, 1;138,000 tens of shipping, and 60,000 seamen. The British ship-owners as the memorials from Hull, Shields, Sec. sufficiently tes tified, sustaining thereby the greatest injury. A considerable diminution had taken place in the building of merchant.ships. In 1805, ships were built to the amount _of 90,000 tons. In 1810, to tiro amount of only 61,000 tons. By the system which had been pursued, the trade had been thrown out of the harmless and distant power of America, into the hands of those near us, and ready to assist France in her hostility. Nothing could be more annoying and injurious to the trade of this coun try, titan the systematic, and every day's interfe rence wiih it to which the Executive Govern. went had resorted. The President and Vice-Presi dent of the Board of Trade, were at present the great merchants of the country, and not the resi dents in London, Liverpool, or Hull. They em ployed their mornings not in devising the means of proteCtiog British Merchants, of annoying those of the enemy, or of diminishing the hostility of neu trals, but in making assortments of cargoes, an oc cupation to'which, with all due respect to them, he conceived that they were wholly incompetent. 1-12 did not obje6t to the Right Hcn. gentleman ono site on the ground of his political or natural, but o his mercantile incapacity. The habits of his lift had as little tilted him for the task which he bad no, dertahen, as a Right Hon. Secretary of the Trea , sury who had lately come out as an eminent poet, -had, in his (Mr. B.'s) opinion, been fitted by hi: habits for the task which be had undertaken. I was really ridiculous to contemplate the Noble Lorc at the head of the Board of Trade, settling the vari ous component .parts of a cargo. Sometimes deter. mining that it should consist of wool, scissars, nails, - and cotton twist ; hesitating whether or not tel eavt out the scissars ; and, finally, perhaps, detertniniq to omit the nails, and allow the • scissars to be in: eluded. He did'not impute any abu,e in the grant ing of licenses ; he did not mean to accuse c._;overiv meat of partiality in that R.:sped. But it was evt; dent, that those' merchants who were consulted by the Board of Trade on the perpetual changes that were taking place must have very little conning, il they could not make a probable guess with respect to the projeated prohibitions and admissions whict to them would be just as great a bonus as any stock• brokers would receive to w. how the Chancellor of the, Excitecioer might coammtlicate, the terms el which he tne.aut 16 fund Exchequer Bills, or tc contrast- for the sale of the, Lottery. The trier chants also consulted .by the Board of Trade w(-rci not s uch men as the Member for Worcester, or tin: Menthei - s fur the City of London. No; those who were :seen clearing outwards 'and inwards- at the office were I;etierally neutrals, and their agents job hers and brokers from Duke's place. These Were the persens whom the Board Cf Trade thought proper to consult, on their commercial rep.. lations. By ,the perpetual Changes in their re gulations, the enemy were continually enabled to anticipate and frustrate our wishes. But one most deplorable t4:feci to which the new system had; was on the morals of those who were employed ut der it. It had beenn said., by a high authority (Sir W. Scott), that it was a series of simulation and dissimulation from beginning-to end. It would have been still more accurately described,_ had it been called a system beginning in forgery, co;itittuht; in perjury, and conversant with every descripion of fraud and enormity. He described the nature of the licenses and the deceptions which were practised under them, (reading a circular letter which had been sent to. various merchants in Lon don, from persons who at uaily proft!...!ed to esta blish themselves for the sole purpose of making mutated papers. If this was the kind of viitory which our commerce was to enjoy over the de. si4ns of Buonaparte, he disclaimed' any share in the triumph. After dwelling at considerable length on these and similar points, he concluded by moving, ‘. That a Select Committee be appointed for the pu.P pose of taking into consideration the present state of the Lomtnerce and manutadures of the Country, particulaily with reference to the Orders in Council, and the License Trade." Mr. ROSE was anxious to make same statements of fact, which, he was persuaded, would de away all the effea of the arguments so ably urged by the the Hon. Gentleman. He did not deny that the manufacturing districts of the coentry experienced much distress, particularly Birmingham, the trade of which place depends materially on the connetaio3 with America. But when the Hon. Gentleman eon ' tended, that that distress °Ovulated in ehe Orders in Council, and was a ground for their repeal, - he would ask him, what were the fads on which he founded that statement ? He would refer to the papers on the table; "and he must observe, that the Hon. Gentleman questioned the accuracy of Mr. Irvine's figures, only when they opposed his state- , ments, and not when ley seemed to support them. For his part he never knew the corredness of the Cusiorn'-house accounts doubted, nor could he al low that they were at, all liable to the objections of the Honourable Gentleman. 'What did those counts state ? The Orders in Council were issued in 1087 ! The accaunts stated, that ib 1807' the general exports were 35,800,0001.; that ia -1808 they were 34,800,0001.; that in 180 y, they grew to 5 0,000,0001.; and in 1810 they mete 45,000,0001. All this was official value, so that the increase in real value was near 30,000,0001. The Hon. Gentleman, however, contended, that although; the general exports might be increased, yet, that the particular exports to America were decreased. How was this borne out by the accounts ? In 1807 . the whole of the exports to all America and that West Indies, amounted to 14,800,0001. In 1803 io 1b,800,0001. In 180 y (in which year the Non-Intercourse Aa took place in America) to . 19400,0001. ; and in 1810, to 20 ,418,0001. nuk ing a difference between the years 1807 and tilt), of six million pounds sterling in the ex ports to all America, and chiefly attributable( to the increase of exports to South America.-- Did he thence mean to infer that we ought to be indifferent with respect to our connection with the United States ? By no means. On the contrary, he had always said that the interests of Great Bri tain and the interests of the United States were closely conneaed; but it was too much to expea that we should allow Attlee ica to treat us in a man ner different from other countries, The Hoe.. Gentleman had been very witty in his de , criptioel of the people wjto he supposed were consulted by the Beard of Trade. He could assure the Hon. Gentleman, however, that he was completely mis taken with respea to the company which he (Mr. 11.) kept ; nor was the assortment of cargoes the moraines occupation of his Noble Friend and him self. A considerable pc - etion of 'their time was taken up in considering what articles it would be safe and proper to allow to be imported into this country. The Honoarable Gentleman as serted that the British shipping had been injured by the system of licenses. The accounts on the table, however, shewed that there were.Boo,ooo. tons of British shipping, and fourteen thousand Bri, tish seamen employed More than when the Orders in Council were promulgated. He admitted that the foreign shipping had increased in great propor tion. But if foreign shipping had not been employ ed, what would have become of our commerce ? How could it have been cart ied on with those ports which were shut against British shipping ? Woufil Government have been justified in letting the ma twist:lures of the country perish in warehouses ra ther thau allow and sanction them to be transpot fed to those ports in foreign shipping ? That the Bri tish shipping was completely employed was evident from the increased rate of transnorts. To 1 Qn-7