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IMPERIL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF PEW. TUESDAY, JAN. 75. `Fits Majesty came to the Hothe of Lords about thre o'clock, anti in a few minutes afterwards, His Maj+ny being stifled upon the Throne in his Robes, the Usher of the Black Rod was sent to demand the attendance of the House of Commons. TheSr a Altiko: attended by a, great number of Members, having ap.. pew& at the p,r, His Majesty made a most gra.' crow; Speeith from the Thrrine: Fur Ilis Majesty's Speech, see our Paper of Yetterdq.) His Majesty then retired to the Robing-room, and soon afterwards returnid to Buckingham House. The Commons having viithtimvn, and the Peers having unrobed, their Lortillsips prUcerded to busi. Rest between four and five o'ciock. Lord Viscount Sr DMOIJTH and Lord Si. MAPS( Were inttpduCed,. aritkatik. Ole Oatits and their seats. The Earl of Cnottbosto a Representative Peer of Ireland, also took the oaths. Some Papers were pre , ented from the Crown. Me of Ireland, which were ordered to lie on the Table. His Majesty's Speech was then read by the TAMS CHANCIaLO4 • anti afterward* by the Clerk : m.diately atter which Lard ELIOT rose—"lt is not my, wish, my Lott% to trouble your Lordships at any great length, in moving, as I shall have the honons to do, an Ad. dress to His Majesty, in reply to his Most gracious Speech; but I think it necessary shortly to state the grounds on which I intend to found my Motion fur that Address. The present contest in . Which . we are engaged, and which formsoi prominent topic in His I VhieltY's Speech, -iffiAike the late war, to closely connested with the Cense of Royalty, and so . intimately interwoven with the essential interests of the Country, that in adverting n, the measures fur supporting it, it seeMs to me, my Lords, that the only question is, whether the , Address which • 311811 have the bottom to move, is conformable 'to the usual praetice of the House.' I hope in this . point of view, that the Address will tuft he consi. tiered as informal oreontrary to the prattice of the House, and that it will receive the approbation of your Lordships. However we May differ, my Lords, a s t o som ? poi n t s of th e Speech, ytr, I trust, as to • the,first part of it , there can be but one sentiment, nut only in this House, but amongst the people at tarot; ell must feel satisfattion and pride, that the threatened Invasion has not been attempted. shoughit is very truethafno apprehetiaions need he entertained to the event of an' "ovation of tl•is Country, and I ant convinced that no fear has been fah by the people as to the result of such an attempt, yes it ought not to he forgotten, that a desperate attempt at Invasion, made by a desperate Enemy, may be produdive of the most serious consequence.. It must, therefore, be a subjeei for just pride to your Lordshipa and the petTle, that the Enemy have been deterred from malung the threatened at. tempt, by the vigour and decision displayed on our pert, by the excellent arrangement and diopesition of onr Forces, and by the admirable skill and jusig anent displayed in all our operations, both for home defence and far the annoyance of the .4nerny ; by which meow he has not only been prevented from snaking the attempt, of the success of which he has so much boasted, but has been made to tremble in his turn for the eAlety of his own shores. It is not to any change in his purpose, but to our own energy and vigour, that we are indebted for our freedom from any attempt to invade our coasts. These ad. vantages we owe to the excellent measures adopted for our defence, to the skill and gallantry of our Officers and Seamen, to the courage and admirable discipline of our Army and Militia, And to the pa trintism and valour of ;inciter description of Force unknown to former times, but which has been re. served to grace anti adorn the present age. For. tnerly we relied merely upon the bravery and dis cipline of a Regular Army, and often admired and congratulated their splendid achievements, Now, in addition to that great anti essential support, another description of Force has arisen in die per. Cons of our brave and patricide Volunteers ; who, tattuated by the most fervid patriotism, have arranged themselves under the military banners of the Coun. ' try for its deleoce. against the attempted a despe. rate roomy: A description of Force this, which, whilst it is sCluated by-the most determined vakur, far exceeds, in point of numbers, ally finoner Foto: of which this Country could boast, and every pre. vious calculation which could be formed as to its eatiot led amount, With roped to the War With Spain, my Lords, I shall not now eniorge*upon that aubjstt, bteause we have not yet before us those documents and Wit which can enable us to forgo a judgment as to the different bearings of the guts. 'ion. When, by the possessio n o f the c o toosomos and lefts, we are enabled to judge of the measures and conduct of His Majesty's Ministers, then, of coule e will hr the time to go into the .question in detail. it will nut be venturing, however, to say too suiu h , in,expressing sty opinion, that the facts re. ripening the condutt of Spain which are alre a dy keown completely !;ear, out the condot of Ministers. —Hostilities with Spain were not, in toy mind, so touch a question of justice. 43 of policy i r and when we consider the supieies scot by Spain to France, which contrileated to enable the latter to carry on War against this Country, 1 cannot but think that no other course remained for Ministers to pursue than that which they have adopted; aril their tonduit ap. pears to me so clearly entitled to confidence, slant think there can be no hesitation in agreeing to the Address. It is unnecessary for me to enlarge upon the condul of France since the COMltenCe 'nem of the War, as its outrage tus nature is sufficiently evident. What may be the result of the Cothinuedeation frosts that Country, mentioned iu His Majesty's Speech, or whether any circumstances may rise to lead the ssilar to a happy and successful tertnieation, it is impossible to say. Whatever may be the re. SUlt f I hope and trust it will be a happy one for this Country. There only remains, my Louis, one other topic to notice, namely, the flourishing state of our Commerce, Upon this subjea, it is need. less fur .me to enlarge ' as it must be obvious to every one who bestows upon it the slightestportion of observation. These, my Lords, are the grounds upon which I offer an Addresi to your Lordships' notice, and which I trust will meet with your ap. probation." The Address moved by Lord ELIGT, and which is nearly, as usual, an echo of His Majesty's Speech, was then read by the LORD CHANC ELLOIt ; atter which, Lord GWYDIR rose—" In rising, my Lords, to second the .Address moved by the Noble Lord, it is unneeesbary for me to trouble your Lordships at any length. It is the more needless for me to.go into any detailed arguments upon the subjea, when icon. bider, what indeed is so apparent,the situation of this Country : Safe at home, and respefied abroad, she sets at defiance the machinations of her enemies.— Whatever idea there may be of any Pacific Over. tures, I hope we shall be amply guarded upon that sultjefi, after the experience we have already had. When we look to the coast of the Enemy, we see that his Fleets and Flotillas have been compelled to seek security under the protedion of the cannon' on their own shores, thus repelling the menace of the Enemy, by forcing him to take refuge in his own harbours. As to the (potion between us and Spain, it is well known that France required supplie s in money from that Country, that Spain entered into fresh engagements with France, of considerable ex. tent, and that all. explanation was refused by the Court of Madrid. Under these circumstances were we called upon to consider the case connexion be. twcen France and Spain, the latter supplying the money which contributed to maintain the Armaments within sight ofour coast. Under these considerations I must applaud the measures of hostilities with Spain, and shall content myself with saying thus much upon the subjtd, until we are in possession of the documents relating to the question. Of the precise objets and extent of the Communication from France, mentioned in His Majesty's Speech, we are nut in possession; but thus much I will say upon that subjee, that whatever may be its nature;' our exertions ought to suffer- no relaxation. Peace to be lasting ; must be founded upon a sincere disposition, and arise cut of Those mutual facilities' which car►-only. lte the result of frank and honourable proposals.— We cannot, nor ought we-to forgt• , upon this sub. t h e lessons which we have derived from exile. rience—an experience of.a Peace, which in the con. sequences that followed, left us in that situation 'which left us no other choice' but immediate Hos. tiliries or lasting degradation. Now, therefore, after renewing Hostilities under such considerations, we may hope for Noce ; hut let us be prepared for War. The other topics mentioned in His Ma. jesty's Speech need no comment from „me in ad: dition to those made 'brills Noble l.orid ; and I shall therefore conclude, . my Lords; by seconding the Address." Tbr Earl of CARLISLE said, he should not have troubled their Lordships, or have brought forward' any observations, hail it not been for something that fell from the Noble Lord who moved the Address, rin d also from the Noble Lord who seconded it. Though these Noble Lords did nut say much upon the subjed of Hostilities with Spain, and did not Claim any opinion from their Lordships re►ative to that measure until the Papers were boom the H o u s e, yet he could net help thinking that petted silence upon the subject would, if he might use the expres. non, have been more discreet. Their Lordships could not know upon what authority the Noble Lords said that Spain was the aggress6r ; those Noble Lords might be acquainted with the circumstances relating to the supplies of money furnished by Spain to France, but they were not knoWn to Parliament, and, therefore, their Lordships could not decide whether the War with Spain was just or not. With respdt to the boasted condition of our Military Force, he could not help remarking, that last year it was thought that we had not sufficient means of defence, and that our Army was ittcompetent for all the purposes to which it was destined. It so, what had been done since to increase the Army ? It was well known that the Bill intended to recruit our Regular Force bad totally failed in its operation; nothing else had been done to add to our Military Force. How therefore could it now be said that our Army was in so respectable and excellent a state, whey► it was no better than last year, at which period it was acknowledged, by those who now vaunted its excellence, to be insufficient ? Th►s he conceived not to be sufficiently accounted for ; nor did he think that those who now boosted of our means of defence could easily get rid of the incon. sistency. The DUKe of CLARENCE had no objeaion to Peace, provided it cookd be obtained on solid and honourable terms. For certain parts.of the Military System he condemned the condat of Ministers. The mode proposed for the recruiting of the Army he thought not only improper, but inefficient and in the Army of Reserve Bill he found so many e)‘. ceptions, that he hoped for its repeal in the'ClalltSC of the present Session of Parliament. Lord 11,11VICESBURY commented on the power. ful and prosperous state of the Country, which he represented as possessing in Armed Force infinitely superior to that of any former period, and capable of rendering abortive all the tormidable prepara. tions of out Enemies. If they did not, after these formidable preparations, attempt to curry their boasted threat into execution, it was not certainly from wain of inclination or of means, but because they knew that from the spirit and resources of this Country, the consequence of the attempt would be not only their ticket but their destruction. 'On the fulled of the Commenication from France, his Lordship merely observed, that consistently with our engagements to other Nations i n a lli ance w i t h us no Negotiation whatever c ou ld b e entere d i nto with that Country without the previous consent and approbation of our Allies. Respeeting the' War with Spain, he affirmed, that the hitter Country, by the mode of its conntitioti with France, and its pecuniary supplies, was the aggressor in the contest; that the detention of the Spanish Frigates, when .all the fads were wade known, could be strifily justi. fled, not only by the law of nations, but by every sound principle of self-defence. The Noble Secre. tary asserted, that the English Minister had reedy. tad his Passports, and left Madrid, before accounts of thr. capture of the Swish Frigates had ben re. ceivecl. • Lo-rd GRENVILLE observed, that it was not his intention to bring forward any thing which could distmb the unanimity that ought to mark the pro. ceedings of their Lordships on the subject of the Address of Thanks to His Majesty for his most gracious Speech from the Throne. It had, his hearty concurrence. There were, however, some points to which he must take the liberty of adverting. In the first place, he would avow that he felt it a proud circumstance for himself that the principles which he had so uniformly maintained respecting the necessity 'of preserving and strengthening the connexion of this Country with the Nations of the Continent, not only for the safety of Great Britain, but for that of Europe, were fully acknowledged on all hands, and even ailed upon by His Majesty's Ministers. He was happy to hear such an avowal ; lis well as to find that the 'safety of the Country was consider. ed as completely secured from any attempts, how. ever formidable, of the Enemy. His Lordship sin. cerely rejoiced in that proud pre:eminence which we sustained over all surrounding Nations. This was a point respeding which there could be but one opi nion either in or out of that House ; but his mind was not quite so satisfied respeiting the new War in which we were just involved. He would not assert, that 'there could be no fads which would render our hostile measures towards Spain both just and expedient ; but the general impressitiii - which had been Made upon his titbit', as well as non the minds of a great many more, by the few faits which had come to their knowledge upon that subject, was of a very unfavourable nature. He hoped and :rusted the Right Hon. Secretary in whose department the Negotiations lay would take the earliest opportunity of communicating Papers to the House, by which they might be enabled .to- decide fully upon the cap. ture of theSpartisl4rigates, considering it in a view both of right and expediency ; on which he dwelt for some time. He begged it to be understood, that lie was not of opinion that a case might not arise when the capture and detention of the Filgates might be justifiable : as the fatl now appeared the argu., merits seemed against His Majesty's Ministers; but he could not pretend positively to affirin that such are allegation was well founded, : becaue no Official Documents were as yet before the Home. When., ever those Docutnents'were presented, he hoped that their Lordships would discusS'the merits Of the sub. jell with the greatest impartiality ; add he earnestly recommended, that they should all come down to that House fully prepared to give their opinions on the conduit of His Majesty'. Ministers. lie did not wish to anticipate the discussion by any prem. Lure remark ; but he could not now help SAy ing, that with regard to the British Minister's quitting Madrid, it was not always understOod, that the de. parture of the Minister of one country from another Was tantamount to a Declaratiori of War. The' Duke. of WO R b'ULK declined entering open the subjea of the Address, rorrhich, upon the whole, he had 'no uhjeftion. There was one public topic, 'however, which he wished he had found mentioned either in the Speech, or by His ntjesty's Ministers —th4t was the Emancipation of the Roman .:iteltolies of Ireland. He hoped . that this important subjeCt would soon engage the attention of Parliament, as a very forge and a very respettahle description of His Majetty'd Subjeets expe4ted the• relief that had been so frequently suggtsted• as a matter of right and of poliCy. Lard AfULCRAVE, in answer to what fell from Lord Glut:4 1 111.1.1, declared, that no man could be more anxious than himself to lay before the Houae those Papers to which his Lordship had alluded anti he begged leave to assure the Noble Duke, that no delay should arise on his part. Whenever the No. ble Duke had an opportunity Of examining the Offi cial Documents, he was fully convinced that there would be no difference of opinion between them an d t h at the disadvantageous impression now upon his mind would he completely removed. The Motion for the Address of Thanks was then carried unanimously ; and the usual orders given for its being present e d to His Majesty, JUDGE FOX, OF IRELAND. Ur Marquis of ABA RCOR.N merely alluded to the subject, by stating that he thought it incumbent upon him to declare, that he was ready to snake hi s charges against the judge whenever called upon. A short conversation then ensued betw een L or d s 1-14witssevaY,CAiturrow,Git)tviLLE, and ABUR. COIN ; after which it was agreed, that the Noble Marquis should present his charges against the Judge on Monday, and that they should be taken into consideration on Wednesday next. Lard Wit.. 111NattAM was ppo ill tea :.:hairinan of the Com. mittee. Adjourned till to-morrow (this day). HOUSE OF COMMONS. TUESDAY, JAN. Pr rcr a tit.y at three o'clock the Deputy Usher of the flack Rod entered the House with the usual formality, and said, "l ant come to inform you, that Ilia MAJESTY. Collllll,Md s this Honourable House to attend Ilt 3 MA .3 a5 . 1'1 Iv in the liaise of Peers." The SF Z A rc ER then left the Horse, followed by the Members. After their return seve. rat Members were sworn, among whom was Mr. I: os e r a, Mr. MAINWArtING, and Sir LvAti NIPEAN.—New Writs were then ordered to be issued for Members to serve in Par.: 'lament for the following places :—Erir Warwick,' in the room of Sir Groaos Ev LY N SHUCK rs u deecased ; for the Borough of Horsham, in Sussex, the room of Mr. ALaxANDtrt KOS 4, tlCCeit:ied ; fOf Dumfries, in the room of Sir Ituxiattt r LA Wk g, CriCe3Sed ; for the Borougii Of Tot. nets, in Devonshire, in the room of Mr. Bo It LAN D ; f ar t h e County of Rutland: in the room Of Lord CA tz 111.1 t it ; for the Borough of Devises, in Wi!!shirc, in the room of the Right Honoa►rableUaasv ADIttUcToN, now Viscoint S a- MOUT if ; for the Borough of limAitighlin, iu Iluekaigion. shire, in the room o f Lord P aou v , ILL:eased ; for th e C ounty of Leitrim, in Ireland, in the room of Viscount C r.N r now Earl of Ltrrs. t ; for the Boroughs of Hadchogtoo, Dunbar, Ice, in the room of the Right Honourable T FLOM Al, MAITLAND, who had accepted the Offi ce o f Govetoot.lje hcral of Cey l on; for the Borough of Wt.stlore, in the 100 DI of 1 4 at XS Mr Li. KR, Esq. who had accepted the Stewardship of its Majesty's Chiltern Hundreds ; for Peebles, in the room of Sir AMES MONTLOhltit Y, now Lord Advocate for Scotland; and for the City of Edinburgh, in the room of the Right lonuu table Caine s HOP a , who had accepted the °thee of Lord Justice Clerk. The Bull tor preventing Clandestine Out.lawr was en brought forward, and ordered to be rcad w time time in th the usual form, iliS MAJESTy's SPEECH. Tim SPEAKER then informed the House, that they had been in the House of Peers, where His Majt!ty was pleased to &liver from the Throne a most gracious Speech, of which, toprefent miltakeh he had procured a Copy, which he would now red to the House. (Here the SPEAKER. read His Ms• jesty's Speech.) THE ADDRESS. After the SpeecilTadiaeenieCeived, The Hon. Auausrus DILLON spoke nearly as follows: " I am aware, Sir, of the importance of many of the topics which, in the Speech that has neve been read, are submitted to the consideration of the ilouse ; but, at the same time, I believe, that there are few points which can disturb the unanitaill which ought to prevail at this momentous crisis: Our situation requires unanimity, and therefore I trust that none will be disposed to take any onus. soneble grounds of objettion to the Address which I Sh all by a n d b y h ave t h e h onour o f moving. Isa r {perfectly persuaded, that there arc many Parageal° it% His Majesty's Speech which must occasion the highest joy and satisfattion to alt those who We, the good of th e i r C ountry , an d t h e tranquillity el the world at heart; but I am aware at the sam e giventim time , that there . t n h o e r rez n) e, to o m any ttler s where the ininformati cs ut Gentlemen es they could h ave wished. l e ie n s t e le a n r ie e n I poli c it7 l ,h Ple ow l : ever, ;which at prese n t o u g ht n ot to be relhil prematurely introduced into discussion, till the de' hteAhle informatinn relating to them can be cotteeti niendy laid b e fo re t h e House. Of these I woul d particularly a d vert to t h e secon d parag raph, who , refers p t i o nio t n h s e e W nt a e r n t 4. v i i n t e h d wpSailii proba blyn. Upon this sak the sift very ic ferent, acc or di ng to t h e particular view in wh' each individual may be disposed to regard it. Br; till the Papers which His Majesty has I..:en gcs eju no us p r i pleased to order to be laid before us, for the per of bringing,th o e affair completely under our V7l: shall 1 any be discussion produced, o then this propriety head mofustbe refraining obv i obviou s every impartial person.. It is impossible that teal man can with justice pretend to give any clear t decided opi n i on on a po i nt re l at ive to wheels his information must as yet h e considered as extre ole .: defe,stive. Considering the times and the Oro!, stances in which we are pl a ced, every possible genet, it must be obvi ous , oug h t to be pall and mod erat i on . Wi t h regard to the paci fy Overtures whi c h, as we are i n f o rmed, have made to His Majesty, these I am sure most lt af to afforded the highe s t pl easure an d sa tisfaction every one; and, after the variety of eP i , e ,„ iv ea that have been deliv ere d b y man y ,Genne l in this -louse on the situatio n o f t hi s CauutrY the Continent, it must indeed be highly gu t s ,"; ing that the present state o f a ff a i rs Afoul b° teeing and.cheering a prospeEt. All of us mos have felt no small degree of delight and satisfaai e ni at receiving proofs . of the jus t sens e which the Eto. ~, peror of Russia appears to e n tert a in of the agr ie sions and outrageous c o nduct of France. There ° o now the . best grounds of hope that the Contineoo Lt Nations will be awakened to a proper sense of 'e n _, is due to themselves,, and to the liberties of Enter,: in case France should persist in a line of co ro `:, which may render it impossible tO restore the hies:i ingi of Peace. Sir, with regard to the defence . the Country, the measures that have been ad(P,'„„ for the furtherance of that great ( ) Nea t: have, as El" . with the Ina. happy inruans us, been atten ded I a . situation, much is also due to the exertions of thr, oclP'iarerioc) may nc t b h idic e ojtf r hi e 'les s ilt p el Iyen;tcallbai claimed i nt t el: y ida of ab f ‘r)yde o l u not r uhnreg d e v f ot e C t ti s tt i °lll e l e s . lilxecutive Government. To His KijestY r e k' nisters we owe the excellebt state of defenc e -I " which Ireland has been p1aced.....3 part of the &Olt: which the Enemy might, perhaps, be disposed t 0 consider as the most eligible point of attack. Majesty has direaed us to turn our attention to uric' ; Cher point,' which he justly states as of the ut oo ,: s importance. He has requested that we should gi ve him that support which alone can enable him 40 bring the present contest to a saf e and honouto , termination. The greatest eagerness has been r°a ; nifested by this House, to give His Majesty 'the hi; effectual support in its po we r ; an d I trust t hat jrr', moment the exerti ons o f P ar li ament w ill no t be i ss continued. His Majesty has particularly adi rettf i : a to .the support of public credit ; and have itiS d' A u is that in this respec t th e li ou ,, e w ill f e et eveerv; i : position to concur with His Majesty. lies It burdens which the people must endure etc and unpleasing„ must be confessed ; but in consw e "'; ing she mag n i tu d e o f t h e objet for wh i c h we , contending, and the great, efforts that must fl , e , c l b 4 10 -E a , trily be mdde, I ' hop e t h at t h ese b ur d en s orne with p at ie nce and equanimity. These, ;fle a are the principal circumstance, to which, 4 ,„ byre thought right t o a d vert . Wi t h re gar d ar with S pa i n , I trust chit we shall not h e Pre-g; N‘i . ed to a ras h and premature conclusion; but Gentlemen willpatiiencetillbirntgha; he t ' n " a t r it: ti.ot ordered by crnbnletely bo:ore them. Without trespassing titer on the tiou,e, or goin g mo re minutely int ° e l ) , poticulars contained in His WitjeatY's s ,P e it nle I shall conclude with moving, That an "'lli, Address be '`:resented to His Majesty, to assur e Majesty," &c. &c. .[ t'tie 4ddress was here rail which, as usual, ss'as e°4 to the Speech.] Mr. ADAMS then spoke as follows :—" s d rise t o secon d the M , rion of my Hon. Fri 1 do it th e more re/Wily as the able statemen t ' c o ot he•has'rnida renders it unnecessar y f o r me L°: upon the sllbjt'et of His Majesty'', Speech co a , length. Sufficient has been said to Play gi l t ' 'lll5 currence of ,this House in the Motion that 1 1 now been submitted to them at t— , e rs t : lift ti l l : a l vlihen w gh e rts a t rc rno e m ng e a n g r, ed at in a War time when sv h a e b r t h it ve n e t r e in na g ce z d eal u o s f wouirthcolunivltarsyiomne,n,and whert, Schemes have been rendered abortive only foto and r which has blockaded every port of the EttenlYtticeal the Adri at i c to t h e Texel ; in such circunolyca trust that eVery one w i lt f ee l i t hi s first grant His Majesty that support which lie n° to he quires, and which every thing tells gs "r k i c o tll' ( given. At t h e time, Sir, when we lite r , e ` rie rrtf , we have a new Enemy to contend with- -0 r,' on Of I fear, misled by weak counsels, and goade d f the tyeannis and despotic power o