The Sun. — London, England, 1846-03-27 00:00:00

RAILWAY COMMITTEES. (YESTERDAY.) HOUSE OF LORDS. Their Lordshii. , s"ComMittee met thi , day at twelve o'clock in the Lord Ctmeellor's Coort. Pri:::3r,t—Lord Auckland (chair:l:an), L')rd ainnairt!, Lord Sidcey, Lord Rossie, and Lord Colville. 71173314pirp DITICD2,II R, AND ENNISIC2I32.I%T. In respect to this Bill an agr-ement was entered into by the cot.iisr.l f'r the Bill, Mr..l\lexander, Q.C., Mr. Butt, and Arr. Perejval Ban :es. and , the counsel for the Waterford, Wicklow, Wexford, and LabEn Bill (Mr. C:.:ckburn, Q.C.), and that the former Cosnpany should. make the line to Dundrum ; the other Company to have the use of it on such terms as the Board of Trade may dictate. The line from Dundrum to Enniskerry to be abandoned, and the Company to pledge themselves to come before Parliament next year for an Aet to make an extension to the south side of 'Stephen's (ilea:. The arse of Mr. Reid, afl opposin? landowner, was put off till Monday—that of Lord Palmerston, to-morrow. MIT3I3ATIC AND SANTYTIVIGUNT. Their Lordships then proceeded to toile evidence in support of the preamble, of this bill. Mr. HATctsta,L, for the promoters examined Mr. Rey aol,"s, Town Counsellor of Dublin, to prove the advantages of the hoe to the inhabitants of the city. After hearing some further evidence, of the same tendency, it was arranged between the parties to the several Bills in this Group, nAnely, the Waterford, Wexford, Wicklow, and Dut.4io, the Dublin and Carlow, the Dublin and Enniskerry, and tho Dublin and Santlymoun, that the clauses in the re speeive Bills should be awencted, and prepared for the Com mittee on Monday. Their. Lord:4ll4)a adjourned at two o'clock, till to-morrow, when thq Goole of Lord Palmerston will ha gone into. Conimittee No. 5. Tke Cominittee met at 'eleven o'clocki Lord Selkirk, Chairman. IniS7,IIGREAT WES'T'ERN (13/7131.1N TO GAM WAY). MIDLAND ,GELEAT IATESTETLN (23CTZN. _ SION TO GALWAY). Mr. ALEXAZIMR examined Lord Oranmore, Mr. Blackeney, and Mr. Watson, in favour of the Midland Great Western Extension. Mr. Stowell, tha engineer of the line was examinedat great length on ail tho details of the engineering work of the line, as compared with the competing line. This being finished, and the formal proofs given in evi dence, the room was cleared. On parties being re-admitted, the Committee intimated to counsel that they would hear but one counsel on each side, if counsel thought it necessary to address them after their Minds were made np. . • • Counsel on both side. agreed to refrain from addressing their Lordships. Mr. Rowe, on the part of the • Canal Company, was not heard ; and the Committee intimated that their de vision would be made known at eleven o'clock to-morrow. The room was then cleared. WErVITRT. WARRENPOINT, AND ROB• TREVOR. 'Earl nosbery, Lord Stanley, Lord Hereford, Lord Ash. burton, and the -Bishop of Hereford, constitute this com , mittse. • hfr. Walker, eross-examined by Sir Jolty Barwr —Was appointed by the lioard of 'Admiralty to examine into the effect which irowld be produced en the Newry and Warren point. • He thought darnao - a would not be done .to the river by a canal bridge being placed over the canal. He did not think a bridge constructed properlywo u Id be any inconvenience. The soil is what is called by sluch or sludge. I think the ground is very soft. 'lf time was given for matter to conso lidate, and the base wide enough, it would na much increase the expense of the work; the railway would consolidate. The slugh is - infinitely easier than the railway on. Chatmoss. He believed that the slugh at the depth of six or eight feet would be found to be - harder; and of a less contracting nature than the seperincambent soil. -Was of opinion that, after a proper foundation was made, a train of forty •or any other number of tons weight would go over it with the greatest safety. There could be. no :danger whatever, and the ex pense of- making an embankment would be comparatively trifling. This closed the evidence, and _ _ Sir Joule BAYI.EY proceeded to sum up. After a few pre liminary observations the Learned Counsel said, that after the evidence which he had enbmitted to their Lordships, he felt bound to say that the preamble of the Bill could not be declared proved. The promo ere had called Mr. Goodwin, their engi neer, wile bad said the embankment proposed to be made for this line weuld be safe, and calculated to carry out the pro moters' intentions of makirg a good line of railway. But. notwithstanding this opinion, the Committee had 'tad the evidence of kir-John Rennie who said that it was almost impossible to construct an embankment upon the slob, inas much as it would be liable to periodical sinking. They then had the evidence of Mr. Walker, which went in favour of the promoters. Passing over the embankment altogether, going to the fact of the bridges which were to cross the navigation belonging to the Canal Company—now with respect to the bridges, it was shown that they would have to be at the service of Railway Company till their trains passed ; by this regulation the Canal Company's traffic. would be periodically delayed, inasmuch as they would have to wait the peasing of the trains before barges aid sailing craft could pees on. Allowing that the trains were .to pasty at certain hours, it should be borne in mind that trains never arrived at stations to their time, and allowing that they would have to go over the bridges several tiraes during the twenty-four hours, the result would he to cause a delay of three or f o ur hours to the traffic of the navigation belonging to his clients through the delay of the trains. After going at length into the nature of the evidence adduced on both sides, the Learned Counsel concluded by calling upon the Committee to declare the pre amble of the Bill nut proved. The Committee then retied, end, after a brief deliberation. The CHAIRMAN said he had been instructed by their Lord ships to say that the preamble of the Bill was proved. He had also to inform the parties that their Lordships recom mended that a clause should be drawn up and introduced in the Bill, providing that in c :so of dispute arising between the Navigation Company and the railwail interest, such dis pute should be referred to the railway department of the Board of Trade.. The clauses cf the Bill were then gone into, and their Lord. ship rose at f(-ur o'clock. No. 6 Committee assembled for •the first time this morn ing, present Lord Kenyon, in the chair, Lord Gage, the Earl of Suffolk. The Committee had before them the Ennis, Limerick, and Kil!aloe Junction, the Nenagh and Tenaplemore, and the Great Munster Railwnv. Mr. Sergeant. Mummy, who appeared for the Great Mun ster, stated that these Bills were unopposed. The first Bill taken was TEE EN1719, laraniticn, AND _MULL:UWE =DICTION. j Tho capita; foftela line is 300,000 L,. upon which a deposit of 25,0001. had been paid. The line will be 23 miles from Ennis to Litherick, nod 121: Miles frome Limerick to Killaloe. The landowners were all favourably disposed to the line. The line is to be a single line of railway, bat powers are taken to make it a double line slrnild the traffic require it. The Bill was passed. NENAGIR AND TEIVIPLETWORE. The Committee then took this case. Mr. Hopi& appeared for the promoters. The line was 20 miles in length, and the estimated cost 140,0001. It passed through a coal and mineral district and would open up a . communieei ion with the south of Ireland. Mr. John Kempster, the secretary, was examined in favour of the line, and he proved the advantage that it would be to the district through which it is intended topes& The Bill was passed. GREAT reltrINTS :M. Itr: lit rcitirit appeared for this BM There was no 01 - position, and the fernesi penis having been gone through, the Bill n.as pawed. The Committee then adjourned., No. 4. • This Committee sat to-day, Lord Glenelg in the chair. The only case taken was that of the Liana:lE, DEIXAST ADTIO 331 1.1.X.VNLENA. Mr. Sergeant Warns , appeared for the promoters, and stated that the line is an extensio n o f th e Belfast and B P allv-' ,• mina ;ine, from CarrickfcrguS to Larne, a harbo u r on eh& north -weet coast of Ireland: . a dietance of 14 . miles. Tfie line travels for a considerahie distance along• the seaecoast, ,pao,ing be;ween it-and the lands of D. S. Ker, Eke., M.P., for Down, atrick, en the parr of which gentleman Sir W. Ttnairenn hcrptlaed - the ftne,' on the gedund that it . would shut oan from; the sea-board the stone quarries' of Mr. Ker. and' it :vas eentended Warm this account l!efrh Ker was entitled to some compeniation beyond the price of the land which , mit..tlit RAI required t'`Or t! , e construction eft he line. Sergeant Munrmv sub:hired that ad , was not a matter r the consideration o f the Committee, who should not be c. lied upoh to decide a mere question of quantutn The proper core would I , e that which was pursued in the cowed of law--tro refer the matter to the arbitration of some perfy capable of forming a judgment of the damage that rpigi,t be sustained. - - .• _ The 0, her side having .refused to do this e. dhe Promoters pn.ceeded to prove their cahe. iir. Sllerrard, the engincW of the line; ethtedt in; evidence that the estimate was 140,0e0/. ; the expense of Working the . line, which was a very caey one, would be - 3:1. on the re ceipts. He. had. allowed 9 , 1. per cubic foot for earthwork, and le 3 I. per font for Cuttings through the rock. . The ease thr the promoters having closed,. • ; Sir NV-thee:it Rinnnet. called evideeee tq prove the i n j u ry taut the line wiaild'do to M r : fier's prsperty. - That evidence having' been closed, he-stated nit lie appeired on behalf of certain land and. millowners in the town. of. Carrickferglis, ivlio opposed the bill on the groandthat the line wasinteudfd to cross a turnpike-road in that district, at the height of fourteen Feet telly; whereas, the Railways Consolidation Act limited it to fifteen feat. ;He had clause peoviding that the height sTionld tee limited to fifteen feet at the least. • The UtternetAX ,steted th at the proposed, dause, bemire nie Was unnecessary to insert Sure Tel present law ivould protect the petitiohers. Sir WALTF,II,- RIDDELL then addressee the Committee on behalf of Mr. t K p e e r l , ls l t v l Ifloorncemeizt,erehdiemd tahartoattaietlers oters should at their own which the line would detrorFt.hiees;ll.l:ol. lieu of the p!*cnt rue, hoped their Lordships would consider the merits heforethey passed the Bill. He was afraid that it would not remunerate the promoters, no engineering or surveying er i t deuce was tendered, and he really believed that the line had not been eurVeyed at all, or any inquiries made as to the probably receipts. Ile still hoped that their Lordships would consent to admit the insertion of the clause to which he bad before referred. lle concluded by putting hi clauses on the part of Mr. Ker, and the inhabitants of Carrickfergus._ Mr. Sergeant MilTrr'llY in reply, contended that the Rail way Consolidation Act of List year, provided for every com pensation whiein,Mie,Ker tied the other petitioners sought, - and he called upon the Cona;uittee not to encumber the 13ill with such clauses as eihreprevided for already by, the geporal law regarding railways. lit apprehended that the preamble of the BAI had beets proved to the satisfaction of their Lord ships. The line piopoeen to pass. through districts in the north of Ireland,_ t; here people were singularly industrious, and who went duly develop:ng the resources of the country, and who had, in loint of fact, set an exemple to the other portions of their unhaepy country.' He, therefore, hoped.that their Lerdahipe wouel not reject the Bill, and so prevent .the laudahleeiertions of this people to develop the advantages and resources of their prosperous diarist. The line would, in an eminent measure, aid the shipping of Belfast, the caaitel of the north of Ireland. It It ad beenhmid by his LearnedFrieral that the line had not been properly. Surveyed; but let him prove hie statement. And then, as to.the claim of Mr Ker,. it was found that not one ton of lime had been exported' from the pier which he had ereeted; and he could not, there fore be very serionalvtlestaged by, 1114 line besides, the_pro-. moters offered (rota theTegitilehig to give him - five outlets and 7501. The promoters were also prepared to increase the proposed height of that part of the line which passed over the turnpike road. The latter proposition was accepted. The room Wea cleared, and after a short cousultatiou the parties were readmitted, when the Committee stated that the preamble had been proved; that the promoters were to leave Mr. Ker sufficient space between their line and the sea to form a tram-road at his own expense, but the ex pense of forming the five approaches to the railroad claimed by Mr. Ker to be borne by the company. r.l.'ess the promoters consented to the clauses proposed b.: Sir W. Riddell, the Committee would order them to be 'in crted. Mr. Sergeant MtiIIPAY said the promoters had no objection to their insertion. The clauses were accordingly inserted, and, after the with drawal of some clauses, and the alteration of others, The Bill was passed, and the Committee adjourned. STANDIN G ORDERS' COMMITTEES, HOUSE OF LORDS. This CommitteeZ(l;i commence its sittings this day until a later hour than usual. 'f he Lords present were, the Earl of Shaftesbury (in the chair), the Duke of Richmond, Lords Redesdale. Hawarden, and Beauchamp. WEXFORD, WATERFORD, AND VALENCIA RAILWAY. _ _ _ In this case the Committee decided that the company should for the present session only be allowed to carry out that portion of their line extending from Kil l arney to Valen cia, the requisite deposits for the other portions of the line, especially that from Killarney to Tralee, not having been lodged in time. The formal proofs having been entered, their Lordships decided that the standing orders had been complied with, so far as regarded the portion of the line running between Killarney and Valencia. The length of the line to be made is thirty-six miles, the cost of which is estimated at 250,0001. The Parliamentary agents are Messrs. Dyson, Hall, and Co.; solicitors, J. Wilkinson and J. Simonds, London, and W. D. West, Wexford. THE SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY tVENING, MA.RCTI 27, 11346. traffic came to the west-end of London as that which came to the City. At this point the CHAIRMAN intimated, that as it might possibly save time and expense, he thought it right to inti mate that there was no probability of the Committee coming to any other decision than that at which they had formerly arrived. From this, however, Mr. BLzwrrr expressed his dissent, and the room was cleared. When the public was re-admitted, The Cuatumnv said that he thought he had been stating the unanimous feeling of the Committee, but one of them had been out of the room ; and they were, of course, ready to hear any evidence that might be adduced. After some conversation between the counsel, it was ulti mately agreed that the evidence should be continued, and the Committee then adjourned till to-morrow. GROUP XIX The Committee assembled at twelve o'clock this day; present, Lord Harry Vane (chairman), Earl of March, Hon, Francis Scott, Mr. D. Morris, Mr. Philip Bennett. Ezzarat, TOPSHAM, AND EXMOUTH. The examination of Mr. Samuda was resumed, who under went a very rigid cross-examination and re-examination by the Learned Counsel on the part of the opponents of the Bill, as to the application of the atmospheric principle, on passing the canal near the River Exe. He gave a very descriptive account as to the manner it was to be effected, - but admitted that was the first trial of this principle under water; but nothing was elicited in the course of his evidence calculated to show the impracticability of its success in this instance. Mr. Turner, member of the Town Council and Alderman of Exeter, was in favour of the proposed line in preference to the Exeter and Exmouth, as he considered the latter line would be not only injurious and detrimental to property, but did not afford that facility and accommodation to the public as the one now under consideration. John Challis, a fisherman( at Limster, stated that great benefit would be conferred on the mercantile and the shipping interest, as it would afford safe shelter and anchorage to vessels in time of distress, by the construction of the pro posed bridge and pier. Thomas Dunham, who also followed the occupation of a fisherman at Limster, corroborated the opinion expressed by the former witness. James Foster, a mister, residing at Exmouth for the last 21 years, was in favour of the projected route, as it would not only increase andpenefit his business, but promote the in terests and prosperity generally of Exmouth. Mr. Vend, clerk, then handed in proofs relating to the assents and dissents. This closed the case on the part of the promoters of the Bill. The Committee then proceeded to consider a petition from Mrs. Mitchell. Mr. Rowe appeared on behalf of the petitioner. Witnesses were called in order to show the injury her pro perty would sustain consequent on the proposed line being carried out. The Committee then went into the consideration of the competing line. Mr. Cockburn and Mr. Rowe appeared on the part of the promoters of the LONDON AND TORN. The evil we anticipated has at length occurred—the resolution of their Lordships to exclude the press, and cause the gentlemen connected therewith to rely on the state ments of interested individuals for their facts , , has led to its natural result; and, for aught we know, has caused the greatest inconvenience to many individuals. Our readers may remember that we stated in our paper of Tuesday last, that in this case the question of the new subscription deed or contract had been decided in favour of the present promoters of the Bill, and that as all opposition had been withdrawn, the Bill had virtually passed, anC. the final decision of their Lordships was only withheld until a properly signed deed was prepared, with the real names of the promoters of the line attached thereto. This information is incorrect, for on the calling of the case, Mr. CROWDER made an application, on the part of the Eastern Counties Railway Company, to be heard in opposi tion to the Bill, on the point of the contract deed. He said that his objection to the deed was not that which had been urged last year before the Committee, and he argued that as the money which had been placed in the hands of the Accountant- General of the Court of Chancery had been so deposited under the deed of last year, and as the present promoters came under a new deed, and were not the same as those who last year came before the Committee, they had no claim upon that fund. The question, however, underwent considerable discussion. The Committee adjourned the case till Monday ; in the meantime, a case is to be laid before the Attorney and Soli citor-General for the guidance of the Committee in arriving at their final decision. The Committee adjourned at five o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS. GROUP IX. WEST or SCOTLAND rcrivcTxow. The evidence on behalf of this Bill was proceeded with this morning. Counsel for the Bill, Mr. Sergeant Andrews, Sir Thomas Phillips, and Mr. M‘Neil. The scheme is petitioned against by the corporation of Glasgow, the Clyde River Trust, the trustees of the Glasgow Bridge, the Glasgow and Greenock Railway, the Glasgow, Barrhead, and Neilston Direct Rail way, Sir John Maxwell, A. Campbell, Esq., certain inha bitants of Blythswood Hill, and the members of an United Secession congregation. The petitioners were represented by Mr. Austin, Mr. Sergeant Bellasis, Mr. Sergeant Wrang ham, and Mr. (lope. The scheme is one to connect the terminus of the Glasgow and Edinburgh Railway, on the north side of the Clyde at Glasgow, with the Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock, and Ayr Railway, on the south side, and, through that junction all the lines in the West of Scotland, with that running east and south. It is a mile long, and is proposed to cross the Clyde by a viaduct at Glasgow-bridge to whisk the principal op position is dreaded. Powers were also sought to make a station at Blythswcod Holm. On the assembling of the Committee, some conversation took place as to the propriety of considering the Caledonian Termini and Branches. scheme along with the West of Scotland Junction, as it competed with the latter in some respects. The room was cleared for a decision on the point. On our re-admission, The CITAIRMAN said the Committee had decided that the Caledonian promoters should be considered in connexion with the West of Scotland Junction, and the promoters should cross-examine the witnesses; only their own case was not to come on till the legal time, according to the standing orders. The evidence on behalf of the West of Scotland Junction was then proceeded with. Mr. Miller, civil engineer, was called and examined by Mr. Sergeant ANDREWS, on the part of the promoters. He commenced with describing the lines north and south of Glasgow, which the proposed junction would bring into con nexion. The lines of railway on the north of Glasgow, made or making, were 130 miles, and on the south side 120 miles in extent. The proposed line was under a mile long, and crossed the Clyde by a viaduct just under Glasgow bridge. The line was to be carried over several streets, at an elevation of about 10 feet, so as not to interfere with the street traffic. The bridge was to abut against the present bridge, the piers being exactly opposite. About thirty feet would be taken from the harbour by the proposed bridge. The berthage of the whole harbour was about 5,000 or 6,000 feet, and it was to be extended by the proposed docks at Stobcross. The proposed station at Blythswood Holm was required, by the want or accommodation at the Queen-street station. The witness then described' the route of the line, and the gra dientS, which,he represented as very favourable, the severest being on one of the diverging branches, 1 in 64. He con sidered it was the only practicable scheme, to allow a con tinuous stream of traffic north and south without interference. Two other'scheraes proposed to cross the Clyde, but it was only to get better station accommodation, and they could not connect the lines north and south without a great de struction of property. The estimates of the works were 200,0001. ; 75,0001. for land ; and 124,900/. for works and contingencies, which were calculated at the rate of ten per cent. The witness *as cross . -examined by Mr. Sergeant WEANG ITA!i, with the object of showing that the Caledonian Com panY purposed a connexion with the lines on the south side of the river, of a superior character. The witness admitted that the proposed,connexion, if carried out to the mineral lines east of Glasgow, would be superior in respect to mineral traffic, but not otherwise for all general purposes; the West of Scot land was superior, and did not interfere so much with house property and streets. Cross-examined by Mr. HOPE, on the part of the Clyde River Trust, the Bridge Trust, and the Corporation of Glas gow. The inclination of Rothwell-street, in order to accom modate the line, was altered from one in eighteen to one in twenty. The tunnel, before the line reached the proposed new station, issued near to Waterloo-street, which was crossed by an arch twelve feet high; the road would have to be levelled a 'few feet here, and the gradient in the line there was one in ninety-two. Five streets were crossed before reaching the river, by arches of iron, of 12, 18, 20, 20, and 19 feet respectively. The witness was further questioned at considerable length, with the object of showing tinier:Abe- viaduct over the Clyde would affect the harbour word/A/dation, and be an eyesore to the city, on account of ittisityation above the present Glasgow-bridge. The Colurnit4eB adjourned at a quarter to four o'clock tiil Dext day at - twelve, when the cross-examination will be re satned.. GROUP XII. GLASGOW, HIMPILAILATOCX, AND AnDrtoSSA.N. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) Mr. W. B. Salmond, merchant, Irvine, corroborated the evidence of a former witness as to the advantages of the branch to Irvine. Mr. Baird, M.P., Gartsherrie, proved the minerals in the district through which the proposed line passed. Mr. Qairdner, banker, Kilmarnock, proved that an offer had Leen made to the . Ardrosan Railway and Harbour Com pany by the Glasgow and Ayr Railway to purchase .their property. Terms were drawn up, of which a copy was re tained by witness and one by Mr Leadbitter. Mr. Neil Robson, civil engineer, then described the line. The railway gradient was 1 in 75, the number of tunnels 5, but they only amounted in all to -::! ‘ i of a mile. The estimated cost per week was 510,0004 allowing 10 per cent. for contingencies. The distance gained would be about 10 miles, and no possibly better line could be adopted for the country. V Mr.ll.olon's cross-examination was deferred till to-morrow, and the Committee adjourned. GROUP XIV. NOZTIET. =EMI'. (Continued from our Afternocn Edition of yesterday.) Bv'Mr. Tausar—The property there belongs to Sir Claude de Crespigny. Mr.:TALnet —Sir Claude de Crespigny is an assenting party to the Bills. By Mr. SELWYN—The feeling of the inhabitants is very much against the railway. Mr. PETERSDORF then addressed the Committee on behalf of a petition against the proposed line by Sir H. Oxenden. He said that he had great pleasure in informing the Com mittee that he would call no witnesses, but would rely on the admission of those witnesses who had been already exa: mined. The line was projected to pass through a. park be longing to Sir H. Oxenden, and also within a very short dis tance of his mansion ; and the Learned Counsel commented on the fact that there was an alternative line which could be adopted, but the Company declined adopting it because of the additional expense it would cause to them, and there !oorr e l preferred cut ti ng th roug h Broom Park, the property is client. M r . Vignoles had offered to hide the railw a y i which would intersect the park by a ser i es o f artificial completelym mounds, ad half,s r a t effectdestr destroy that altogether would a t s o c a u t p t a h r e k p t a o r k a gentleman's r .Btv s rn a t ls e i n on. - proceeded to address the Committee in support of it Petition presented against the proposed line, by the inhabita and wardens of the Southwark. parish of St. Saviour's, : s ib objected to Mr. B acon ' s b e i ng heard, on h : o G un ° d u") that the petition had a l ready been submitted to t eg the consideration of the Committee. A solicitor had already be lumA forths said eCo thatmmit he Committee for this p e ti t i on. appeared he uAthought the petition had al ready been considered, and therefore could not be again heard. Mr. BACON submitted that the petitioners alleged such grievance, that the Committee could hardly pass their peti tion without further notice. The CHAIRMAN said that the Learned Counsel had better recapitulate successively the heads of the grounds on which the petitioners claimed to be heard, and the Committee would then decide whether he could be heard. Mr, FgeantWILANGIIAM said that if Mr. Bacon was heard it would be against all •preeedenti, • - The CHAMMAN, after a short consultation, said that the case submitted by Mr. Bacon was f4O very similar to the one presented the ether day,"tbat the Committee could not hear it. The Committee then adjourned until twelve o'clock to morrow. GROUP XVI. EPSOM_ BRANCH. The Committee assembled to-day ,at twelve o'clock, Sir Charles Douglas, Bart., in the chair, when Mr. Farmer, a magistrate, was called on behalf of the South Western Company, confirmed the testimony previously given as to the desire Of the inhabitants of Epsom to have the line proposed by this Company, as also of thosereaiding in the dis trict to the soath. In addition, the witness expressed his belief that those residing at and about Dorking and Leatherhead, would prefer this line to get to London either to the route by Kingston or Croydon. To Mr. MOORE, Mr. Farmer expressed his belief that the petition which had been presented to the House of Commons in favour ofthe Croydon and , Epsom line, and that he-had withdrawn his opposition to that line in consequence of an arrangement with the Company. He also stated that, with respect to the Guildford coach, the circumstances were, that although taken off the road to London, it was now driven from 800102.113, where the proprietor lived, to the Kingston station, then back to Epsom, and then again to Kingston, to accommodate the public in that neighbourhood. He did not, however, believe that the traffic would support both lines. On re-examination by Mr. him, Q.C., Mr. Farmer stated that he had withdrawn his opposition to the Atmospheric Railway, because his counsel had advised him, under the im pression that the Committee were so decided in favour of that line, that his property would suffer if he did not yield. He thought that the terminus at NV aterloo-bridge was the one best for all the resident gentry, whether going to the east or west, although, of courts, those who had business to do in the City would prefer the London.bridge terminus. Mr. F. Taylor, brother of Mr. William Taylor, of Wor cester Park, through which property the Epsom Branch was intended to pass said,on this estate there were several gunpow der mills, in the working of which five hundred tons of coal were used in a year. The formation of this railway would enable them to procure coals at a cheaper rate, and this was of great importance, as enabling them to keep the market in the competition with other mills which enjoyed the advantage of railways near to them. He confirmed the tes timony respecting the probable convenience of the branch, and the feelings of the upper classes residing in the neigh bourhood. To Mr. MOORE the witness replied that the powder-mills were half a mile from Malden. To kr. Bum= Mr. Taylor stated that they now paid 20s. to 21s. per ton, and he conceived that they would save 4s. 6d. a ton by bringing them on the railway. Mr. Page, a farmer at Merton, churchwarden and trustee of the charity land, found chalk very beneficial in mixing with the soil. He got his chalk from the pits at Cheam, a distance of six or seven miles. The Wimbledon station would be near his land. At present one journey occupied the whole of the day, during which not more than two tons a day, as they could only send a cart, in consequence of the badness of the road and the steepness of the ascent from the chalk pits. If this sort of manure could be procured with facility and cheapness, he be lieved it would be used in a tenfold greater degree, as it was useful both for light and for heavy land, cooling the former in hot weather, and disintegrating the latter from its tenacity in wet seasons. To Mr. Mooaa, the witness replied, that the railway would not prevent the necessity of drawing it part of the way, but he believed that the expense of putting it on the railway would be trifling, and he expected that there was a deposit of chalk at Wimbleton. The distance of Guildford was too great, being twenty-four miles off. There was. chalk at Ewell, through which the railway was intended to pass, and from whence it could be brought, and might be delivered at 2s. 6d. a ton, while by the wear, tear, and expense of a team of three horses, with a man and a boy, the cost was 16s. for two tons. Mr. S. Bothwell, lessee of the celebrated lime-pits at Dorking, said he generally sent about 5,000 or 6,000 tons, but last year his business fell off to 3,500 tons, in con sequence of the facilities possessed by the Kent lime-pits through the neighbourhood of the railways. He got his coals by barge to Kingston, and then carted them to Dork ing, a distance of thirteen miles, an impediment which greatly limited the consumption of coals. This lime was used in the erection of the new Houses of Parliament, and it was a common covenant in building contracts to secure the use of Dorking lime. The building going on at the west-end of London was so extensive that he believed that hereafter fully two-thirds of the lime would be sent to the Nine Elms terminus for the buildings now going on at Battersea,Pimlico, and even beyond both those places on both sides of the river. If coals were brought to Epsom, of which from five thousand to six thousand tons were purchased by him every year, upon this quantity he expected to save ss. 6d. a ton. If he obtained these facilities he expected to consume 2,000 to 3,000 tons more to make at least 10,000 tons of lime. At present he believed that coal was scarce at Dorking, which for that article was the dearest place in England. For these reasons he preferred the branch of the South-Western Com pany. He had been present before the Committee in 1844, when many promises had been made by the Atmospheric Company ; but they had hitherto proved to be only'Promises. To the CHAIRMAN and Lord POLLINGTON, Mr. Bothwell replied that coals at Dorking were about 355. a ton. At present he bought his coals a ship load at a time and laid them in store at his wharfs at Kingston. It was now cus tomary to get coals down to Reigate by the Brighton Rail way, where it was seven miles to Dorking, but the road was a bad one, while that from Epsom was a good one, although a little longer. Mr. Nelson the architect of Charles-street, St. James's square, extensively engaged in the erection of houses in London, stated that, Wimbledon Park, which contained 700 acres, bad been taken for building mansions and villas of the first class. The plans have been made, and part of the build ings raised close to the WimNeden station. In addition to this, in consequence ofthe extensinteof theSouth-Westernßail way to Richmond, the whole of that district had been opened for building purposes, and he calculated that 1,000 houses a year would be built in that suburb of the metropolis. For buildings, whether large or small, the use of good lime was requisite. Dorking lime was the best, but it was super seded at present, to a very great extent, by the Northfleet lime, which was far inferior, but it was cheaper; and it was a common practice with builders to make the river lime of a darker colour, in order to imitate Dorking lime; and even where the contract specified that Dorking lime should be used, the lime from Northfleet was often substituted. It was in every way advisable to use the best lime, as it rendered buildings stronger and more substantial. To Mr. Mooita, the witness replied that the grey Medway lime, which was ls. to ls. 6d. per yard cheaper. The works for that line were established in consequence of the dearness of the Dorking lime, to which it was far inferior, although it had superseded it. To the CHAIRMAN, the witness replied, that from his know ledge of the geology of the district, he should say that there was no doubt whatever of opening works to any extent in the Dorking hills. Upwards of 50,000 tons of lime were annu ally used in London, and as much more in the provinces, and Dorking lime could he supplied for it almost interminably. Mr. Pryor, chairman of the Coal and Corn Committee of the City of London, stated that he had an establishment at Newcastle as well as in London, from which he sent 80,000 to 100,000 tons of coal each year. The South-Western Company already afforded great facilities at their wharfs at Nine Elms, where the frontage was 150 feet long, and it was about being largely increased. He, himself, deposited 12,00 tons in a year at those wharfs, and by the alteration they would be able to take the smaller classes of sea-going col liers up to the wharfs themselves, by which the expense of lighterage, and the disadvantage of the breakage of coals would be saved. They had already taken a vessel of ninety tons, and he believed that vessels of one hundred tons could be taken there. By the official papers he found that be tween last July and February there had been 354 vessels of 100 tons, and 541 between that rate and 150 tons, and 575 between that rate and 200 tons which discharged their cargoes in London, and each of their vessels made, on an average, five voyages a year. In saving the lighterage, there was also another advantage gained, for a machine had been invented which was capable of raising 300 tons of coals in a day, and depositing them in the railway waggons, saving the breakage 3d. a ton. The coalwhipper's charge was now 6d. a ton for discharging cargoes. The advantages, together are savings of 3d. for discharging, Bd. in lighterage, and 7d. for taking out of the lighters, and Is. 6d. for breakage, making altogether a saving of 3s. a ton in favour of the new system, .at least 2s. Bd., so that the coal a ft er it i s pl ace d i n the railway waggons is absolutely cheaper than it is in the Fool. The wharf at Nine Elms is a public wharf, where no wharfage is ever charged. Immense quantities of sea-borne coal are daily transmitted to the interior of the country, and when the South-Western Railway was opened, at the request of Sir John Easthope, Mr. Prior had consented to open the trade, and sent coal down the main line of the South-Western Company, and the consequence was that from 355., the price of coals had fallen in that dis trict to 28s. a ton.- •If this line were opened he could under take to deliver coal fit for lime burning and gunpowder mak ing at 155. 101. a ton at Epsom. At present the best hohse keeping coal was 14s. to 16e. a ton, so that it could be deli vered on an average at 17s. 10d. a ton at that place. Mr. Bothwell being recalled, said that - it cost ss. a ton to cart coals from Epsom to Dorking, including one gate, so that they could get good coals in that neighbourhuod at a little more than 238. a ton. . Mr. Prior being further examined, said that he had heard of the Croydon plan for the last, four years. He had sent coals down by the Croydon line from that place, and the ex penses were-Bd. lighterage to Coal Blow, near New Cross; sd. canal dues ; towing 1 3 /01. ; wharfage 6d. ; and rail charge 25.-making a total cost of 4s. 4:Y i d. a ton to Croy don, which was eight miles further, giving a further expense ofqd. per ton, which with the Gd. a ton for discharging the cargo, would cost 63. 2 3 / 4 d. to Epsom by the Croydon Rail way, giving a contrast of Is. 9d., the cost by the Sonth- Vire3tern line, against 6s. 2%d., and showing a gain in favour of the South-Western line of 4s. sd. ; or, including the coals, the difference appears by this line 17s. 10d. a ton for house hold coal against 225. 2d. by the other line. Taking all things as they were, he should prefer the South- Westeru line.for the facilities afibrded to the trade, even if the cost of the two hues were exactly equal. To Mr. MOORE-It appears that the charge for carriage to Croydon was only 11d. a ton per mile. The 12,000 tons of coal which witness delivered at Nino Elms was for making coke for the Company. The small vessels would, of course, be fitted for going under the bridges, and he did not believe that there was practically any difference in the freightage of large vessels and small ones. He knew that several indivi duals were preparing to lower their masts and to go into the trade. Of course the machineof which he had spoken would be as useful in the Pool as at Nine Elms. In re-examination by Mr. HILDYARD, Q.C., Mr. Prior replied, that in consequence of having a less deep hold to fall into, and from there being *Jos weight to shake together on the voyage, there was less breakage in small vessels than in large ones. To the CHAIR r& machine was tried at South ampton.. - - - _ To Mr. BLEWITT and Lord POLLINGTOX, Mr. Elliott, Q.C., stated that the charge of the South-Western Company for carrying coals was 2id. for 15 miles, 2d. for 25 miles, and lid. a ton for every greater distance. By the Act the toll only, and not . the rate of carriage, was regulated. Mr. G. Stone, a coal merchant at Ewell, who supplies the chief families in Ewell, Epsom, and the neighbourhood, said that he obtained his coals by barge to Kingston, and thence by his own waggons. His general sale was 2,000 tons a-year, and of course a reduction in the price would increase the consumption. His impression was that about 20,000 tons a year were consumed in the district. Mr. Waghorn, the owner of extensive clay potteries at Ewell, who exported largely, sends 2,000 to 3,000 tons of goods to Nine Elms in a year. Large gas-works are situated at that place, where a great quantity of his clay earth is used. He consumes from 2,000 to 3,000 tons of coals annually, all of which he brought from Vauxhall. He supplied other gas establishments, but the London gas-works took one•half of his clay earth, and the Waterloo-bridge terminus would be a convenience for supplying the City. Mr. Charles Hall, who sends 200 sacks of flour per week to London, would, if this line were made, save 70 t o 80 per cent. o f his carriage cost. Mr. Burn, an extensive ironmonger at Epsom, stated that he A re ft c e e r iv a e n d elhOosertvoantsioonf from har dwarethe citAmm fromLo A n N do , n. HILDYARD stated his object was to show that, as the London and Birmingham Company had bought the railway and the banks, of the Thames, that the formation of-thfs branch would save the expense and delay of such goods passing through Lond on, a point which the testimony went t Arr. Lumley, of the Spread Eagle at Epaom, and chief posting-motor Of Oa WWII; te*tifted that three gum ass much EXETER AND ZXMOITTIL Mr. W. Kennedy, a magistrate and late mayor of Exeter, was an advocate and supporter of this line, stating his prin cipal objection to the other route was the impediment created on passing the canal. kr. Gai'd, of Exeter, said the inhabitants of that city were in favour of the proposed scheme, but would prefer the one under consideration; the other crossing and likely to inter rupt the navigation of the canal. It being now four o'clock, the Committee adjourned until twelve o'clock to-morrow (Friday). GROUP XXI. LONDON AND OXFORD. The Committee re-assembled this morning at the usual hour, Mr. Finch in the chair. - The promoters proceeded to call witnesses in support of their line. The first witness called by Mr. Hildyard was Mr. Thomas Treacher, who stated that he had resided in High Wycombe all his life, and that he was a chair manu facturer, coal-merchant, and small farmer He said the price of coals during the last four years was 40s, per ton. The poor bought their coals in small quantities, and paid, in consequence, 2s. to 2s. 2d. more per ton. About 1,000 tons were annually consumed by the inhabitants. The proprie. tors of paper-mills, of which there were a considerable num ber, bought their own coals, and not from the coal-merchants in the town. If the coals they used were cheapened, these manufactures would receive a great impetus. By the line, or rather an extension of it towards the north, say to Ayles bury, a communication with the important coal districts of the north would be opened up. He had made a calculation as to the price of coals if they had the railway, and found that the coals which he was now selling at 355. aught be sold fur 275. or 28s. per ton. The reduction in price would greatly increase the consumption. A cheap communication with the north of England for chairs, of which a great num ber were manufactured in High Wycombe, and in the sur rounding districts, was required. About one-half of the chairs manufactured there were sent to the northern districts, to which they had no available water communication. If they had the railway, they could send chairs to Lon don at threepence less each than their transmission now cost. They had to send chairs intended for London to Tring, 19 miles from High Wycombe. The proposed branch of the Great Western to the town would not be of great advantage. [No point of any consequence was elicited in this witness's cross-examination by Mr. Wells.] Mr. W. Charsley, a farmer at Woburn, examined by Mr. WARREN—He grew, on the average, annually 120 quarters of wheat, 200 quarters of barley, and 100 quarters of oats, which he generally sent by waggon, at considerable expense, to the Uxbridge market. By the proposed railway he should be enabled to send his corn to other markets, and to attend them himself—Oxford and London, for instance—and to compete more effectually with the great growers of corn. The branch of the Great Western, not being direct, would not be of much advantage. By the CHAIRMAN—Had formed nolostimate of the ex pense of conveying goods by the Oxford and London or by the branch of the Great Western, and along its course to London. He could send flour to London by the proposed line. Never uses the Bath coal. Mr. R. S. Cuming, of the firm of Coming, Stoneham, and Co., drapers, grocers, &c., Wycombe, received 700 tons of goods annually, the carriage of which cost about 8001. a year. They received grocery mostly from London, and a great pOrtion of the drapery fi.inn Manchester, but they ge nerally bought them in the London market. If there was a direct communication with Manchester they should buy the greater part of their goods there. No doubt, in that case, he should go to Manchester himself to purchase goods, as that would save the expense of agency, &c. The railway would be of great advantage to them in their business, as the carriage of their goods would be consequently reduced ; but he was of opinion that theproposed branch of the Great Western would injure the trade of the town instead of benefiting it, because the five coaches which now ran through the town would be reduced it number; not more than two trains would run each day, and the frequency of communica tion with London and Oxford consequently decreased. After the examination of several other witnesses, the Com- mittee adjourned till to-morrow, GROUP XXV. The Select Committee appointed to consider the merits of he lines comprised' in this group, re -assembled at the usual hour this morning in the Westminster Sessions House, the Hon. Mr. Lascelle,s in the chair, itar t wicH AND EASTERN COUNTIES strive TEON. The examination of the merits of this scheme was re sumed. Mr. John Braithwaite, the engineer of the line, was examined at some length by Mr. Ogle, on behalf of several landholders, who complained that the line would inflict more ix - jury on their property than the competing line. Mr. JAMES submitted to the Committee that all the cases were simply matter for compenimi se . The Committee concurring in this opinion, the cross-exa mination was not persisted in. Mr. Biaithwaite was then examined at some length. He said he had never heard, until he entered that Committee, of there being any trade between Ipswich and Harwich. His object had been to obtain the shortest line between Harwich and the metropolis; but if it were thought that the line ought to accommodate Ipswich, there would be no difficulty in having a fork at the point ofjunetion with the Eastern Union, one branch pointing te Ipswich and the other to London. The distance from Ipswich to Harwich was twenty miles by rail, while by the Orwell it was only nine miles, and there WAS a cheap steam-boat communication; passengers were carried, he believed, for sixpence a head. Captain Richardson, one of the dir ec t ors of the line, having been one of the deputation that waited upon the Board of Admiralty with reference to the two proposed lines, proved that the Admiralty preferred Mr. Braithwaite's line to Mr. Lock's, which ran along, the coast. The matter was discussed in the presence of Captain Beaufort, who was decidedly in fa your of Braithwaite's line. He had seen the Captain that morning, and asked him to attend before the Committee and give evidence in favour of the line, but the Admiralty were averse to his appearing before the Committee in the capacity of a witness. He could state, 'however, positively that the Admiralty had adopted their plan for the pier at Harwich, and rejected the Eastern Union plan. Mr. Ronsvas.a. objected to this evidence on behalf of the Eastern Union Company, because he should be in a position to show that the Admiralty had refused to receive a deputa tion from. the Company he represented. -Mr. JAMES thought this could - hardly be possible. The CHAIRMAN asked if the Eastern Union Company had submitted any plan of a pier to the Admiralty? Mr. RODWELL replied that they had sent to ask the Admi ralty to allow a deputation to wait upon them with plans; but the Admiralty refused to receive it. Mr. JAMES said he held in his hand a copy of a plan which the Eastern Union Company submitted to the Admiralty, and which the Admiralty rejected. The CHAIRMAN submitted that if the Committee Nam tioned the Eastern Union line, how could it be carried out if the Admiralty opposed it? Mr. RODWELL said they were prepared to alter the plan of their pier at Hare ich to ft o •t the views of the Admiralty. Mr. Ja.stEs said it was impossible for the Eastern Union Company to depart from their deposited plans and sections. The CHAIRMAN—Then the case stands thus :—The Eastern Union. Company ,say they have not been heard. Now if it should turn out; or if it can be proved, that their line was considered with the one now before us, and the latter was adopted by the Admiralty, we shall be inclined to attach importance to that opinion, although we are not bound by it or at all disposed to surrender our functions to that board. Mr. JAMES said the Admiralty had an objection to their officer attending there in the capacity of a witness, and, therefore, they could not prove the opinion of the board from official authority, but there was this paragraph in one of the reports of the Board of Trade, which was pretty con clusive on the point:—" But when the circumstances of the port of Harwich are taken into considera tion, national interests become mixed up with and form important ingredients in the question, especially as such project contemplates the erection of a pier. A commu nication had, therefore, been made by this board to the Lords of the Admiralty on the subject, and they have stated, that though they do not consider their objections to the Eastern Union scheme of such vital importance as to be at once fatal to it, they think Braithwaite's is, upon the whole, the most expedient, and the best for the public interests. Therefore, notwithstanding the Eastern Union scheme only requires eleven miles of new railway, we are of opinion that the state ment which we have received from the Admiralty is con clusive against it, and that on public grounds Braithwaite's Harwich Pier Railway is preferable to either of the others." Mr. TALBOT objected to the Committee assuming that the Admiralty had decided against the Eastern Union line, with out first consulting the officers of that board on the subject; and even supposing the board had, upon an ex parte state ment, decided against them, the Committee ought not to adopt this decision as their own. The Committee objected to having any private communi cation with the Admiralty on the subject, and ultimately it was decided that a Sp ea k er ' s or d er s h ou l d b e sent -for Capt.- Beaufort to attend and give evidence on the point. Captain RICHARDSON stated that lie understood the objec tion of the Board of Admiralty to the coast line was, that in time of war it would be liable to Attack foul the enemy's Teasels pealing up the Orwell. Mr. H. Blanchard, a retired East India merchant, and the owner of a large estate in the neighbourhood of the lire, gave evidence of the local advantages of the sche:ne. Other ge neral evidence of this nature, showing that the majority of the inhabitants of the district preferred Mr. Braithwaite's lie to the coast, line was adduced, after which a communication was put into the hands of the Chairman. who intimated that its contents informed him, that as Captain Beaufort was the confidential adviser of the Admiralty, it would be utterly inconsistent with his office to appear before the Committee to give evidence in his official capacity, and therefore (added the Hon. Gentleman) they could only take it for granted that the Admiralty assented to Mr. Braith waite'a line, but not to the one running along the coast. Mr. COCKBURN stated that the Commissioners of Woods and Forests bad been applied to for their opinion on the subject of the two lines, but they declined giving a preference to either line. This closed the case for the promoters. The Committee then adjourned till twelve o'clock to morrow. IMPERIAL PA RLIA MENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, March 26. Their Lordships met at the usual hour. ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE. The Duke of RIOII MOND wished to ask the Noble Duke (Wellington) when he should move the adjourn ment of the House for the Easter holidays ? The Duke of WELLINGTON—I propose to move, on Tuesday, the 7th, that your Lordships should adjourn until Tuesday, the 21st of April. The Duke of RICHMOND said it would also be very convenient to their Lordships to know when it was likely the Corn-law Repeal Bill would be brought up from the House of Commons. He had thought it very probable that it would be brought up before the 27th. The Duke of WELLINGTON said, certainly not before the 27th of April. Lerd BROUGHAM—The Noble Duke must be aware that it cannot be brought up before the 25th of April, because they were going into " coercion" next week. The Duke of WELLINGTON said it would cer tainly not be brought up before the 25th. THE REGULATION OF CHARITIES. A RIGHT REV. PRELATE presented a petition against the second reading of this Bill, which stood fur to morrow. Messengers from the Commons brought up several Bills. TIDAL HARBOURS' COMMISSION. The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH presented a repot.' from this OUT PENSIONERS (GREENWICH.) On the motion of the.NonLit EARL this Bill was read a second time. LINCOLNSHIRE JUNCTION RAILWAY. Lord STANLEY presented a petition from a gentle man named Stamford (as we understood) against this railway, on account of its separating his residence from his garden, stables, and other property, by a deep cut ting, and because there was a railway between the parts of the country which it was propo , :ed to accommodate. NORTH DEVON' RAILWAY. Earl FORTESCUE presented a petition from certain owners and occupiers of land in the county of Devon, against the Exeter and Crediton Railway (as we under stood). The petioners complained that this scheme, if allowed to proceed, would interfere with better lines, and they prayed to be heard against the Bill. The Noble Lord then proceeded to say that the line which he appeared in favour of was one which he found could not come before this House in the present session owing to some engineering oversight or defect ; but if the Bill which opposed that line, and which was nog• before their Lordships' should pass this House, then they would be passing a second best line for a best line, a::d the great evil would exist of having two lines competing with each other, without doing the least good to themselves or to the country. He trusted therefore that if the North Devon line should not come before the House this year, they would suspend their judgment upon the present Bill until they had heard the merits of this. MESSAGE FROM THE COMMONS. A Messenger from the House of Commons appeared, praying the permission of !heir Lordships' House to Lord Malmesbury to give evidence before a Committee of the House of Commons, to which their Lordship_-. assented. THE CASE OF MR. PARKER, SHREWSBURY. WOLVERHAMPTON, AND SOUTH STAFFORDSHIRE JUNCTION RAIL WAY. On the motion that this Bill he read a second time, Mr. THORNELY said he had no objection to offer to the second reading of the Bill, but he wished thtit a certain clause referring, under the Amalgamation Act, to the construction of bridges, should be assimilated to the provisions of that Act. The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered to be committed. RAILWAY AMALGAMATION BILLS, Mr. WILSON PATTEN, in bringing up the Ninth Report of the Classification Committee, moved, "That no Amalgamation Bill mentioned in that report should be allowed to be read a second time before May 1." The motion was then agreed to. SURREY IRON RAILWAY. Mr. GREENE moved that the Surrey Iron Railway Company Dissolving Bill be read a second time, according to the notice given at the Pi ivate Bill Office, notwithstanding the breviate was not laid on the table till Wednesday the 25th day of March.—Agreed to. TEN HOURS' BILL. Dr. BOWRING presented a petition, signed by fifteen medical men of Bolton, in favour of a Ten Hours' Bill. GOVERN M ENT 111 EA SURES Mr. NE WDEGATE presented several petitions from Hampshire and other places against the measures of the Government. POOR-LAWS. Colonel ROLLESTON press nted a petition from Not tingharnshire, praying for an alteration in the pre.wnt law of settlement ; also petitions against the meas.ires of her Majesty's Government with reference to corn. Mr. GREENE presented a p"titiun from the poor law guardians of Manchester, praying for an alteration in the law of settlement. Mr. WODEHOUSE presented four petitions from Norfolk against the measures of the Government. IRIS II POOR-LAW. Mr. J. O'CONNELL presented a petition from the Kilkenny union, setting forth that the present tax ft•1l unequally on the community, and praying for a more equal distribution of the tax. REPE t.L OF THE UNION. The HON. INIEMBER also presented a petition from a place in Ireland in favour of the repeal of the legisla tive union. THE MILITIA. Mr. S. CRAWFORD presented a petition againal the calliug out of the militia. CORN-LAWS. Mr. COBDEN presented a petitition from Southamp ton, in favour of the repeal of the corn-laws. SOUTH MIDLAND RAILWAY. Mr. TROTTER presented a petition against this railway. Mr. S. O'BRIEN also presented a petition in favour of the line, and one against it. NOTICES OF MOTION. THE CHELTENHAM POST-OFFICE. Mr. CRAVEN BERKELEY gave notice, that on Tuesday next, the 31st of March, he should move for a copy of the order or orders by which the deputy-post master of Cheltenham was entitled to demand a penny extra on letters in certain respects delivered in that town. THE ORDERS OF THE DAY. Sir W. SOMERVILLE gave notice. that on the ques tion being put for the first reading of the Bid for th - Protection of Life in Ireland, he should move that the other orders of the day have preced nee. THE LAW OF SETTLEMENT. Mr. SMITH O'BRIEN wishtd to ask a questiun of the Right Hon. Bart net the Home Secretary. He wished to know whether, in the proposed Gov-rnment measure for giving a settlement to pers , ins %%h.) had been employed for five years in any manufactnrirg town, that it was the intention to include Irish and Scotchpoor ? Sir J. GRAHAM said, the measure was intended ti extend to all persons, without any distinction of cw,untry nhatever. Lord BROUGHAM iotimated that he postponed a motion of which he had given notice (the purport of which did not reach the gallery) till after the Easter holidays. He also stated that shortly after the holidays he would bring under the consideration of the House the conduct of the Poordaw Commissioners towards Mr. Henry Walker Parker. IRISH POOR-LAW AND FEVER BILL. The Earl of CLANCARTY, after presenting several petitions from Ireland in favour of a reduction in poor law taxation and rates generally, said he wished to take that opportunity of patting a question to the Noble Earl (the Earl of St. Germans), of which he had given notice. It would be in the recollection of the [Luse, that on Friday last a Bill for the providing temporary relief for fever in Ireland passed that House. The standing orders were diap need with in order to admit of its im mediate progress through all its stages. To that course he had no objection to make, con sidering the object in view, only he would observe, that had he been in the House on that occasion, instead of being unavoidably absent, he would have considered it his duty to have made some inquiry as to the circum stances under which the Bill was intreduced. It ap peared as it the Bill was to make better provision for the poor who were attacked by fever. Now, in the poor-law of 1343 peor-law guardians were empowered to make provision, and it appeared by bringing forward the present Bill, that a new power was to be employ ed, as if the board of guardians had not done their duty in this respect—that was a reflection cast upon them. If this was to be understood the poor-law for Ireland might as well be repealed at once, and the power given by it to the wealthier classes of Ireland taken away. He was anxious to hear from her Majesty's Government whether in proposing the Bill which had lately been passed, they had been induced to do so from any neglect or indif ference on the part of the Board of Guardians? The Earl of ST. GERMANS had no hesi:ation in assuring his Noble Friend that the Government had had no intention of casting any reflection whatever on the hoards of guardians throughout Ireland. His Noble Friend would observe, on referring to the provisions of the Fevi r Bill, that powers were given to the boards of guardians to give out-door relief to Ferrous suffering from fever. They were empowered both to give medi cine and nutriment should it b , . required. The Earl of CLANCARTY expressed his satisfac ion at the answer of the Noble Earl. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY presented a peti .. tion from the grocers of the City of London, against - the Act at present before their Lordships' House, entitled " An Act for the Administration of Charitable Trusts," and preying exemption from the operation of the said Act, in common with the universities mentioned in the 59th clause. They Also prayed to be heard at the bar by counsel. Lord CAMPBELL presented a petition to the same effect from the C•onpany of Cutlers. BELLEROPHON AND RODNEY. The Earl of UAHDWICKE begged to call the at tention of their Lordship; to a statement made two or three days ago by a Noble Lord, relative to the extra ordinary exertions which were made by officers and men belonging to one of her M jesty's ships down at Portsmouth. The Noble Lord did not appear to know the whole of the case, and he should not have alluded to it without having fully inform.. .d himself of the matter. He had expatiated on the merits of the officrs and men of one of the vesA:l3 which were fitted out on that occasion very deservedly, but he (the Earl of Hardwicke) thought that it •would have Lrcri only `'zir in him to hay. ahudcd to both ships which had then equipped and made ready for sua. He merely inctitioned this, in order that the public might be aware that equal exertions and equal ability were evincAl by the offic.:rs of both those ships. The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH thought no mis take could exist on the subject, as. it was generally known that the offi2ers of both the ships were deserving of the (rreatest The r karquis of LONDONDERRY considered that it was a very inc , invenient practice for any Noble Lord to rise up in that House and to praise the exertions of any officer in the discharge of his public duties, because he considered such praise ought only to emanate from the First Lord of the Admiralty or the First Lord of the Treasury. It was well known that the BiAlerophon and Calcutta were fitted out of the crews or the Rodney and Albion. If the practice was contiriued, great difficulty c•add not fail to result, because an officer might he unduly praiSed by a Noble Lord to whom he was well known. it wai not the opinions of individuals which they re quired, but the opinions of those who had been placed by her Majesty at t;:e head of the naval department. CONSOLIDA ED FUND BILL. This Bill was read a third time. THE INSOLVENT DEBTORS (INDIA) BILL. This Bill was rea.i a second time • PROTECTION. The Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition from operatives in the Tower Hamlets, which was agreed to at a public meeting against free trade. They stated that they had suffered adversity, and had learned in a severe school—that they had been exposed to the in jurious effe:l4 of grinding competition during the last twenty years, and, therefore, earnestly called on the House to throw out the meaiures proposed by her Majesty's Government, and to give to home industry that protection and security which it enjoyed in the olden time. He perfectly agreed in the prayer of the petition. IRISH NORTH MIDLAND, AND DUBLIN AND ENNISKILLEN kAILWAYS. The Earl of ROI)EN presented several petitions in favour of the Irish North Midland Railway. The Noble Earl also presented two petitions against the Dublin and Enniskillen Railway. The Earl of ABERDEEN presented a petition against the Londonderry and Enniskillen R a il way. '1 HE GUANO TRADE. Lord STANLEY moved for the returns which had already been laid before the other House of Parliament, namely, the number of vessels (with t h e i r tonnage) em ployed in the guano trade during the last five years.— Agreed to. Their Lordships then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, March 2G. The SPEAK,EIt took the Chair at Four o'clock. SECOND READINGS. The following Bills were read a second time, acid or dered to .be committed, viz.: Cornwall Railway. Scottish Midland Extension Railway. Glasgow Southern Terminal Railway. Surrey Iron Railway Company Dissolving. ShrewsburY, Wolverhampton, and South Staffordshire Junction, No. 2 (Coalbrookdale Branch). THIRD READING. The Yurk New , Waterworks Bill was read a third time and passed. ty the House. The Government had stated that thel" t y enxious to consider the question i if the settlement of t o poor, and he would as h, w h y h a d t h ey not set ',,sc carrying out their desi r e s ? I n many towns i n t his ei dens there Wit`; an %Tisch ey. end he must admit trTo VV . ,; ii. jU.:;t.iii:lb!€? anxiety. to have the question ' considered and settled. He believed that o would be much b e t ter sett l e d b y a S e l ec t , mittee than a Com m itt ee o f • t h e whole 11°16's (Hear, hear.) He w ou ld h e most anx i ous to l e arn the members of the G overnment e b y i t was t h a t lor o the principles which they had professed to e ntertl ej this question they had st o pp e d s h ort i n carrying or into effect ? And why it was that, having .. ,d sidered as the Ri g ht H on . B aronet did i n that 7 0 1 able statement, to w hi c h h e (M r . B ai l ees ) h a d b' be alluded, that the labourer had earned his rights, he s o sitated to conf e r th em upon hi m P H e w i s heu , to know why it wa s th a t un d er t h e l aw as shad do forth by its propo ser , if an operative should go for a d t 0 to seek his bread in the agricultural districts, 01 ' ot returned, the doors were shut against him its le manufacturing districts which he had le", s 'e (Cries of " Hear, h ear .") Th ey wou ld te ll him 4. 7 1# that he had no se t t le men t, an d t h at h e h a d no righ t return. They would tell him th a t h e h a d no righ t continue in th e manu f actur i ng towns in ie he hed sp en t th e b est part o f his 6",ty ence, but if he chose to go into ,le agrieultursl di str i cts i n searc h o f employmen"fo most take his chance ; that he had, in 0, beceime a gambdng speculator in hi s ill"""f 1 and that he m us t now b e content . w i t h o ut b o sort of relies, b, cause he had the rashness to leav e o i usual place of labour. H e re t urns , per h aps , a fter 0 or three months' absence, an d a ft er a ll his eseettW,oie get employment in other pla ces , h e was compelled W ar i he had come back to that plac e w h ere h e had wwat all his life, and where only he had a claim at relief. It was for this reason he would enoae ar e this Select Committee. A discussion for two et 'P I days, at the most, would enable them to fl ti el Bill, which would be more ac ce p ta bl e t o t h e a grictl_k and other interests generally th an t h e measur e prorSe hy her Majesty's G overnment I t was to g i ve the TO man something like a settlement that he would MoT e e le t a Committee, and he was sur e t h a t it was in the P a s, of Parliament to do so, and to place this question at Mr. SPOONER seconded the motion. Sir JAMES GRAHAM said, the House would b d tio with him while he made a f ew r e m ar k s u p o n the hef_ o s proposed by the Hon. Memb e r who h a d just sat R indti The Hon. Member had alluded to th e s peech of his l'o, Hon. Friend (Sir Robert Peel) upon this gut e e , Now, he consid ere d t h at t h e speech of t he Ri g ht o er Baronet was clear end perfectly intelligible. The cle o e lion raised by the Hon. Member was from a forced be strained construction of the two.expressions which fell frost s , Hein. Friend. The first of th em was th e p ropose d a ltere;, in the law of settlement, and the second was its bearieg 7,ti the Corn Bill. He mu s t s ay, th a t h a d it b een hi s lot top this question to the House, the subject could not have• better stated with refere nce t o hi s op i n i on . Hi s Hen. i!', it had clearly described the p rec i se o bj ect o f th e introduc". ° l ol this Bill. He spoke und e r th e correct i on o f th e highest si e authorities in that Hou s e, an d h e b e li eve d i t i m p oss ible ie le the law of removal without a lt er i ng t h e l aw o f se ttlenneeed the principle in either case was the same. His Hon. 'P e e said that a permanent settlement was not intended to be h l e ' s a posed by Government. The q u e s ti on was no t by anY n o r connected with the alteration of the corn-laws. It 1/ ."ti nounced in that cute as a m e a sur e b roug ht torward l o s Majesty's Governme n t in con nex i on w ith th e l a nded le' e bicl It was a measure condu c iv e t o th e p u bli c goo d, and .. .eV might stand by i•self, per f ectly independent of the other :es sures to which the Hon. Gentleman referred while cell, attention of the House to the other measure. He (sir lI Graham, was prepared to support the Bill without refer e e „ e, the corn-ems, and he was also prepared to vote for the of Bel in its present shape, e ven th o u g h it should be the P I f el of the Legislature to reject. the other Bel. He must tei ese e in the course of all his experie nce i n th a t H ouse , a more de ll ordinary motion was never made than the one just t' the Hors. Gentlemen who had just spoken, and who p je t' that the subject should be refe r red to a Select l ee mittee before the second reading of the ea ell CORN-LAWS. They had a Bill then before them which had r e ceived t! if reading, and stood for thy secon Many of the T e es Sir ROBERT PEEL presented a- petition, signed he portant provisions, with reference tot he law of remove's, the deputy lieutenant, commissioners of supply, the conclusively rot injurious, but, on the contrary, higbli 0 justices Of the pe a ce, ;h e clergy, freeholders, tenant ficiat to that poi tion of the community likely to be effeetre es , farmers, and occupiers of land in the county of Aber- it. Now it struck him that the proposition of the Hon' ,J 1 Been. The petitioners stated, that having maturely con- tleman was rather an extraordinary one, as it gave the . e gi ll sidered th e su bj ect o f t h e corn-laws, they had come to to that already before the House ; though every object ;tell the conclusion th a t t h ey operated prejudicially to their to b e ga i ne d b y t h e H on . G ent l eman could be ac con to lii, interests, and prayed the House to remove them after the second reading, on the motion that the Spina,/ lTte fi the chair, and the House go into Committee.—( ill ta from the statute-book. Also a petition from the town into prt t position t the Pa de' council, mayor, aldermen, and burgesses, of the town The divided rstof which hurhsee would (Sira be drl h h a a t in) wo u i bei of Manchester, who stated that there was a-great em- cideilly oppose, p 4 r he s, H w on. 4 Gentleman, however, sairl A W harassment iu trade, in consequence of the dt lay in the were certain portions ot the Bill that did net meet hit flit: decision of the Reuse up- ,n the question of the corn- pr o b a ti on . H e ( Sir J. Graham) had the honour of P ee ut tb° . laws, and praying that the Home would speedily pro- a similar measure to the pre-ent at a former period; b ees e l 4 nounce its definite judgment. Also a petition from mer- he accompanied it with several alterations as regarded fw - 1 00 chants and manufacturers of Nottingham, also praying a settlement, instead of settlement under the old systems, bloc' speedy settlement of the corn-laws, he did not press, in consequence of the opposition so COLONIAL TRADE. Members. If that opportunity were lost. there would bete' Mr. HUME wished to ask the Hight Honourable difficulty in hereafter settling the question ; while the sr,it Gentleman at the heed of' the Government, whether it t m h e e ne u s .e it t n o o d w et s e t r o m od in , excellent and fair, and it w"" 0 determine whether it should be carried ee t ' e ee, was intended to carry out the principles of free trade, as regarded the. colonies, by amending certain existing swaaesytrue there were matters of detail which it might be P e Acts ? to alter, but they could easily be arranged when tl i t io elt got into Committee. The principle, however, he be il; Sir R. PEEL wished to know whether the lion. could not be objected to. and he, for one, was preparedA , Member's question had reference to sugar. his most hearty and uncompromisiug support to the let'', yon ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE. was his most decided opinion that it was equitable and tel;fots Sir R. Ps..EL, in answer to a question put to him the viewing this question irrespective of any other mea!ure__offess, ether day by Mr. Hume, stated that it was his littera the House, it was one well worthy of f sup e po e r t t o . th 3 e len7 poOr it e tion not to propose a longer recess at Easter thtri eleven alterations proposedevbe .. made in ~r e h d been eren most carefulliegol days, and that he would not even pledge himself to humane and just. The . Bill itself guidanceof the highest 'II pared, under the advice and move so long an a djo urnm e nt . _,I authorities of the country, and he was quite salistlve h e Mr. .MILNER GIBSON w i s h e d to k now w h et h er machinery could not be altered with advan!age. Under :d• e the Coercion Bill would take precedence of the orders circumstances he should most certainly give his decided or' of the day. On subsequent consideration, he thought tion to the motion of the Right Hon. Gentleman. it would appear to the Right Hon. Baronet, that it MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS. would be desirable to proceed with the Coercion Bill Messengers from the Lords brought down certain Bill e t r ase l on Monday instead of th e c e rn quest i on. Mr. SPOONER wished that the motion of his Hon. I . fr ee sir R. PEEL said that the course the Government would be agreed to ; and, with regard to what had !si t , t . od . intended to pursue, and the reasons they had for adopt- the Secretary for the Home Department, namely, that ot es never held out the proposed measure as one of comps toy ling that course, would not be departed from in any par for the passing of the corn-law, he would only referel titular. The Coercion Bill should be the only business statement which he made when he introatlee e d g ill to interpose between the consideration of the Corn Bib Bill, namely, " that he believed that it wooluo so' and other business. He proposed that the Bill should a yen , material relief to the agricultural interest; te d be read for the first time on Monday; and it was pro- the First Lord of the Treasury said, "that rt a; posed by her Majesty's Government that that should be intended to accompany the Corn Bill with arranger the only business to interfere with the discussion of the calculated materially to advance the interest of that pof' . .., • corn- laws. the community which would be called upoe after the Ill c i t yl SETTLEMENT OF THE POOR. three years to relinquish protection." How then would t o Mr. BANKES rose to move for a Select Committee to get over the great difficulty by bringing the measueeo te inquire into the law of settlement and r, moval of the next night? He quite agreed with . what had fallen a lf s e te, Hon. Member for Oldham, that tins matter was not ' . t ee poor. It would he observed that the Right Honour derstood in the towns ;as tae measure at resent stood , J o y able Baronet at the head of the Government had likely to create a greater evil than that resent existed r e r oil introduced the measure as an accompanying one to that the present poor-law, if the evil it contained was to be ( tor of the corn-law, and it w as i n that leant of view out . I t m i g h t b e a l l very well if confined only to the 1 041 that now, when the Corn Bill had approached the trious poor, who at present were occupied in towage, slid stage of second reading, he considered it right to direct how were they to distinguish between the industeloteve the attention of the House to the measure, conceiving vagrant poor, if the laws remained, as the 110, 1 10 , that both might be considered at the same time, Baronet proposed—after a certain term of residennee;oooe, wish a view to their going to the Upper House at the poor man could not be removed, even with his to lrj sione moment.—(Hear.) There were other measures sh a ; e uld f t h i e fall h into to e ee sickness he fi o t r e dm for with end an accident' n:osoo A introduced as accompanying ones to the Corn Bill, hue t e ionst e ilat t io e u se ne w cessa w ry undsetr fitted circumstances. in his opinion, teey were of little importance, and there the while Ileu - eierl• therefore, contend that a Committee of inst e a r nce g s. He T s fore he was not prepared to take the same stets it, not the proper place for the consideration of such a staid reference to them as in the case he then introduced to It ought to be dealt with by a Committee uP 11S the notice of the ilouse.—(Hear, hear, and cheere.) There was another practical difficulty. There meree oft' It sva,s far from his intention to charge the Right Hen. parishes in Birmingham ; and su;:posing a man to h ce e Pik; Baronet,. or any other member of her Majesty's Gerere- and work in another, and had to change his residene ede ree inent, with intentionally misleading the public or , the five years, he would be deprived of all benefit 11 . 1 i 4s a r t; this subject, but frem the recent statement of the Riggs t law in such a case. His object was, that some prartie _. Hon. Baronet they expected something different to tee weuld consider these difficulties up stairs, and be P r t e o t err, measure which had been laid on the table of this against the second reading of the Bill, with some plan ri ji eae House. Now, he did not presume to male, any emit, them, so that the matter might be fairly and satisf il a:t s o_ ppo rtr charge against the Right Honourable Bat onet or an, tied at once. These were the grounds en which u .o the motion. _ A itlr other Member of the Government, or evert to say thee Sir R PEEL said, that his Hon. Friend w ho hP' ot el l the public afire right in the conclusion they had drawn, spoken did not misunderstand her Majesty's Gover nm t t e t letll hut ceteainly the conclusion was very ditfirent from this question. What that Hon. Gentleman said w as ee oe tb s the measure which was now before the House. the greatest consideration, as he had great experieneewia the It would be by no means satisfactory, that the Corn, subject., living, as he did, in a large town, and kn ° t 00., Bill should be passed and sent into the other House. csndition of the poor therein. He said that the objeeeeobeell before this Bill should he diset.used, and understood, Hill, as explained to the House, was to substitute t a nt .oe bs t e o and put in pint of progress on an equal footing wale fnoordroe.mhotvoanbitlhitey,suabhdecntotreto respecting the expressions ee t, ns t ; e a se t y the other. He was not prepared to say what might to what were the intention's Of p her 1 1 / a jesty's p GovernMe nt ; t ec e right or what might -be wrone in the changes which h t S:r R. Peel) would agsin say, that the intention d toot . * contemplated, but this•he A (mid say, that his own op. sure did not relate to the right of settlement, but to ' ll e $l,l Mon coincided with the general aieline, that a resideniei ing irremovability for removability. Ho proposed the ° 2 l O j for a period of five years-0 fear, hear)—or even ti because he c inceived it would not. only be a benefit to the rs j er sherter one of three years, should. confer the right ri' interest, bat a good in itself, and fraught with great .s n_'.. ell s ; settlement. The Bill was set down for a second reading social advantages.—( Hear, hear.) And when the te s et e j .., On Monday next, and he was of opinion that it could me tier for Finsbury (Mr. Duncnmbe) said he attez' t . n attain to such a progress ; and he, therefore, had a right i greatest teo importancent also 00 did, d is h m e ea d s i u d re n , w ind hop ed oo ~:t i l t, r t , to draw the attention of the house to the subject, ii express ( the v fe m eling ) of a her Ministers: nothing . 1 4 ; O e ' order that they might understand precisely what war tech great importance to it. Majesty's He ( Sir R. Peel) said - i , oil b ig thvies of the Gewernmsnt with reference to He vernment considered themselves under the positive ee tig et e of the measure. The Bill neigh , of doing everything they could to secure the advan o f t by be divided into two parts, that which in- the proposed arrangement, not only for the benefit e FO O l, volved the removal -of the poor, and the , landed interest, but for the interests and comfort of I" r i n eiP ro , which regulated the machinery by which its provisions 'lasses. He could not consent then to discuss the p si P o e were to be carried out. He was prepared to obje c t ti' or provisions of the measure, so as to interfere with tile . , o , that portion of the measure which conferred new power gress of the Corn Bill before the House, but he w ould the P,',. on the Poor-law Commissioners,—(Cheers.) To this he that tr alt shot t ild ns do everything in his power to y r ele g l iot would give his decided opposition. The second 'J.'s' u h e Hon. flon e . ra F7ierid a who had male the nt. m rn ot e i a o s n n wi'le ed e rd e j ell portion had only reference to the machinery the right of settlement, and his Hon. Friend who bad 9- ° l O iof the Bill, which would involve considerahiy the motion had expressed himself as most decidedly lie i s discussion, and m i g ht we ll b e postpone d, but th, to the right of settlement—( Hear hear)—and the r e asi, principle of the Bill ought to be discussed ;it was of tht which he proposed to deal with the qu stion was, bY tbit tl.' e i utmost importance, a nd cou ld not be discussed too discussion on the second reading of the Bill, and eetelqes anxiously or too soon . B u t retaining that part of this should consent to a Select Committee for the purp e ote eot of to , important principle, they would in fact be accomplish into consideration the laws relating to the s ett e l N on. 1‘ 1 ,., e e ing the great advantage which was intended, namely, pear.—( Hear, hear.) It had been stated by the . e, t hst' ea the benefit to the poor man himself, to the full extent bet who proposed the appointment of a Committee, P,,/ of the proposition of the Right Hon. Baronet. Thai fain impressions had been propagated throughout „,, o g;e go . r er e principle he conceived was, that in consequence of t, !ion of the towns of this kingdom, that the , ht o f o t o d • intended to bring in a Bill to confer the tag" residence of a smaller number of years—three years— meat ; and he p o proposed the Committee for the Pur o scill they (should give a right of settlement as well removing those im r p p ressions. Now, considering th e e , vio e e , as a right to relief, No w this comprised of the Hon. Member, he should have thought that ' ( sit 'ie the whole :subject of the question, and would be have been the last to y r any such course. 1 . 1 . '000 t o rectifying a great omission of the present poor-law. It Peel) hoped that his Hon. Friend would permit r eeta tieff was already granted that the residence of five years Proceed in the usual course with respect to the Bill gel is A ids' should not only entitle him to relief, but in the event of the settlement of the poor.—( Hear, hear.) any inducement being held out to the poor man, so as to after the, s t the Mr. COLQUHOUN rose, Amidst c w ri e es e - o ld f , " Divide, - Il e t i e to say, that lie hoped his Hon. Friea_d bribe him to go to a country district, should be visited by bee ' y a penalty, and he perfectly agreed with the Right Hon. withdraw his midion.—(Hear, out b of the Right Hon Gentleman the Secretary of State '''',o , Home Department, Baronet that it was a hardship in the ex -1 eoto creme to induce any man who was suffering from because it did apjiear to him . that . the course picked 4 Fries with - misfortune and poverty to go to a county him would , ll ai . ld H be i t N he G b L e i s s t. -- sis ( e les i i l v4l e e d , d ti i i v a l t de h . i ) s Hon. ._if with which all connexion was l o st, with which all his not press the House to a p d E ivi b siore d —(Hear, hear.) r_, t h s t 11 ,, ties were broken, and with which he could have nii rela- Co:onel SIBTH_ or e , } ; ( n ) the n co t n h t i r s a , Y riest i o no lion whatever, or, in fact, any inducement to re. lion. P h rt a e r reiw. would and l u auglater)—for he d ' i l - s t e think that, a fte k r e a' turn there.—(Hear, hear.) This was one of the great ( Hear, e which the Right Hon. Baronet had n e e difficulties created by the measure proposed, making '.! pledges h e a a v u y ghter)—no reliance ought to be placed on an P EI; this ulceration in the law of settlement. Ile thought it ( which he might chose to make Hear, hear./ (w l l was not wise or right, after, perhaps, a long residence in 1845 to 1846, a sum, not less than 52,0001. had' been _e_ s t l i s g' a manufacturing town, to induce any one to go into on the old s)stem, and he could not see the use of f' I , an agricultural district. He therefore hoped that, any longer. h i s motil'esi after having obtained the benefit of the right to relief Mr. I3ANKES .hought that, if he withdrew a aee ga s they would not deprive hied 80:11e sufficient right of should like her alajeey's Government to hen, iteo cli ke if when the mca.ure would be brought forward. I"_ .,flese e l, ss settlement, for it was only, in fact, offering him an invi tation, at the best, to reside in the workhouse, second reading on Monday next, but it did trot atErstseee For these reasons he trusted that the Government would that it would come on then, and under those circem. • 0 . r thought that a fixed day should be named for.the,_deennVibielifoes not refuse to grant this modification of the law of settlement, while at the same time it maintained all the Sir ROBERT PEEL said that it would be iser- di n se e by their new Bill. him to name a fixed day on which to bring ere then psi . : it, position which they sought to obtain _ _ . on the measure. The second reading. of the -el " tt He trusted that no Member in the House would consider , for Motetay; anti if it u weee'p ffi rsSible t tliendteepeoce hoer'''. this sue lion to he a party one, or that he had brought the principle of it ennui be a rmer . it foi ward for the purpose of a political parts. He be lieved he might say that he might calculate on the support I had been . seo ' Mr. VERNON SMITH would only make one ° 0 ...-A, g tion. The words " industrial residences" , te, of the majority of thos9 Ma of the Opposition lid, a maul lion, Members ia the course of the f"" MP Ri Kht rnention at a Unless , he‘e the intention Lord EB I in . passing t Sir R. p after the dec on the Bill Ireland.