The Sun. — London, England, 1805-05-14 00:00:00

l beir cl'it:ritS lost in Parliament, .felt themselves (riv e d, ard the cop dashed from their . lips . at the ni,tnent when they were on the point of tasting its doliciuus content.„ Wa s n o t this a most evisperat'- ing circatnstance ? Must not every Catholic kaya,. felt the,strongest sentiment s of resentment and de.: ? It was not until the. recall of Lord ,that any conoexion existed bet weer . ; France and Ireland. The Irish were driven by that event into thi.arrns of France. M'Nevin Einmet had declared on their eximination, that altkugh the common people did no t care . feather. tor either n ler' Etriancipa6cm o r Pella the laiY.,Reform, yet that it these - had been granted Reiellien would not have taken place. The "tailing kabels Were' apprehensive lest the Mea. Stitek iifirlied by Lord Fitz willi am s h ou ld' be 141 °Pl!ti, inti that they should be thus deprived 'or their best adherents. Then came the Union. *--The Country had been told chat at` that time Promise had been made to the Ca. timli eti but had they not been led to believe that their demands would be complied with ? Did not . the Union receive great Catholic support upon the hakes', air they thought well founded, that their d i la)* sho u ld h e granted, their gtievances redress erl l? Fox, not for the purpose of retorting his °Plaiolt, upon the l earne d G entleman; but ' merely b ° P ra ve the-fotl, read an (Attila of a Letter Iron IDelgenan to Mr. Grattan to elucidate that t ". It was highly dangeto us - to def er ' t h at w hi c h the Catholics biped fur in 18ot fnt year tO year, rral)tal* them wi t h the prospedi ro Of it blessing, the i n *ession. o f which was sedulonily kept from them. 1 ; 11 7 l'akhoniever, sliewn by the d u tif u l an d l o y a l T r. lettlid to the House, that they placed th..„ - r i en eate on their pott 4'4 number, but tested °Pei solely on t h e w i s d om and justice of Par. ti°fl ameni t What ever m i ght be the - tste of the Mo to i which lie should have the hnnuut of submitting ttie 13 "Se i lie could not but consider t h e intrs as-,ev,t4 the Petiti on as a f ortunate circutnsrance, id t v ,ineed th e good distusition of the P v t i t i tmers . Mr, F OX übtervcii, that sine mysterious reasons had aten hint e d at again st this measure which he did t to und , ern!flerstand Ile l'ad b een as k e d b y Gen gur 4 . Plrsite,' why i t was brought torward . when w " ? lie ikould . say to those b 'linnet), that the cliaoce of su.:eess wouldbdtuuch u e l tler if 'v , )te for the Moti•lyi ; bat _„ty wa s it so. desperate ? We 'had bien. told that the would be contrary to tile t , ots g"‘ et-4011,160t, Old]. It he' propo s ed i t 'Wi t h cony ieitor.,, h e ,h, u l3 h e a dill al SO ..?:)'Ll"e dishonest tnr.u ; but my.' one who. ~,d the oath solo he of such an opi -19 3 Y that a Ki ng of England ought n o t faith ' r toany,Att ot•Pattliasnent - _(ntictninetted legislative pr . .....visiom),' was', iticked, irmst pre hsten ,' r ! 11 s 11.0 assert th at t h e King .61Huld 'lot hurt. Parliatny or, was taurenrrve the corner of the CuilS(lttlt ; innt cad ,of a - thi*eti w:..;uld turn i t into a scene or itrittrelly and T.it Alli•hsic tu of a whole Kingdom of tours from the Eilablishati Church, in the case titi.e Union With Scotland, wits thought ineon. • it with the Coronation ()alb. not If ;intilarCirCtlM. I : y et were infratti.Jts• of thit oath, it had been n in Several instances, particularly in the Alt of t‘. 4 , 93 AVldle lie glotied in the mune o f an Er:glish.: • 'could never brin g hi mse lf to allow that ll it r“lliainent thoUght ftii to &a was imible.. we lt crintentied th at nothing should.be` poss gitated wltl r 1144'rit! a.ceitain prospeit of success, lot it be curt in e i iloaritie been genctally admitted, what "I t Stine w:/ulti have been the Country; in lit „t_it,st4le.'wtitild have been the Staititel Books ?. bf :,"utifnui, lie! l otwoud not.believe, that atiy' liranchits, nut • go t . V.onfiritution Uld so far .forget ours with the exercise of its legitimate the , 1 4 , - to ish that, it.s,:voiee sh.o.lll s l he .tte;ird in %1111,,,t-" Y it,e,' of t hat 11 , 1)Me. His ',Majesty's l a w ful it''' lt was the ditty of the How.e to maintain; t was a lut the al of "r -ete4 ted - d uty the riot to su ;et% - ie t „, P e r 4 olts to ma k e use ot the itoYarnatrie for • rmr.p o , • . . antivtd, -extending Lieu influence. l e t wapld; tine s , lessen the dignity of Parliametit s ,were quest. tre• ssential tit Chet safety arid. .welfare of the Ern . - the At t o 4,1l i e allowed to r sinintier, 4,qcaus a, 4 .'lli s Per uri e abroad that they were not agreeable' to h SUc 4 UI ish. •I he con(luEl of t h e man who pro. • vAibi tti dueirtne was° not that of a loyal ' "r of one who loved the )Cing, but of e wh n ___ !ithi ch he him ro betray him: I. he Motion Pe, ffio "; to make was simply, that ht ' tatc c i ti , it e t rnild be referred to a C.lnmirtee to th e will , th the expediency' of 'repealing either 91. T it i e t Pr a part of the restri4ions complained ed• t h eie re were Wale point s on which he eoticeiv. A r e°4l(l ht: but little difference of opinion.-- Itot rioi,c it t . 4: for instance --as it now stands a 14P riint e d a f • in the Army in Ireland may be to mat e rank cif Ensign to that of General, weves_ Au nut ~ of a General on the Siciff. , It, Fait , 'e comes to England, he is subject: to the. A m l , '' ,Z i i P _ n altUta• of tciereitAct. When a com iiiitivd4e enlistett in Ireland, - it was wader a full ti le of hitan't relhe would be perrniited' the free excl . - ; Yet, solnetitnes, even in Ire. hitt a a Ys in England he was compelled nd the servi ce • Neon.. . the stablished Chtstelt.- 7 - ' o 'ete very !. re gulation s . abo ut . marriages likewise Itievoct el"unvlnti!nt. He.' had proved that the distintf - , ;l4s " tn itliiiiied Of might be•distideJ into tWO ; 1 1 :e Cr owri. 1 , 4 2 one curtailing the preiogaiiva of tw tiltihetile other the tights. of .the pCti i lie ; but Y exttro.4.ed wow matter .Of doubt alai in, lied to c tli tb 'oght that ,Catholics ShOUI4I be itbi 41 net highest offices of the - State, - o,th,ers' pf 'lt sh, llid in k 8 "• This, then, was a questiort 1 0'4)1 04, ri go to a Committee. Soa - ie were 1. 1 " 14130. Catholics bhimid nor lie cure} ~, vkcl it t 1 executive situations, they Ought to vo , 1 4t in Parliament : those would Il L tt , the Petition .simuld malt() .1 bu t stici ie, intteed, could 'approve the Mo- Wyatt+dC,rt the civil ti !ielieved that all was as it tati)Old eOritritio n 'of the. Catholics T o tta, of tilelntielloration. Ile woUld now state „ f v it . , P tak;ls hich Would he the result •14tt°s44 P r oPosltion. .41 great tiArt eSs u p , (11 "-ssi on .OLL great part of the pre. I : L est he e . employed iti inquiting into Li e. to b o i l ler ,triting the Army. lir. would • J$ .without wishing, at !prettrirs to ~ i~::" disparage any of the modes that, had been pro_ posed for --that"purpose, whether those 'proceeding ftom the Right Honourable -Gentleman on the- op; posite side, which heoecrtairily Aid not approve of or those suggested by his Right lion. Friend, near ,him, which met; with his comparative appro. bation ; Whether by ParisloLevies, Recruiting for liaiited service, volunteering, from the Militia, or any-Other plan, that they were-all paltry and trif. ling,- complirerl to• the certain supply -of Disposable_ Force which would be the circa of granting redreas• to the Catholics of . Ireland. The Irish weres,,a lion famed for warmth of temper, for liveliness_ gratitude., In return for what they would call. the, liberality 'of the British 'Parliament, theyowould pour . into our Armies, , and. , be wad convinced that all other schemes, ichen put in competition with this, wnuld appear like little riv,ulets, compared to n the ocean. It was not only the , : numher, but' the z , al , and•the 'spirit of: these' Recruits,: that would' reodet them such a valuable accession. to our Arrnies.' Why did. we,consider France as so powerful-an-Enemy Was it on account.ot lies wealth :or 'her commerce ?: No; it was on account of her population. '•'And 'yet we hesitated to restore to Great' Britain ont.lourth of her population. What would be all the Colonial or. Coniikental conquesib that we could make compared. with the. addition of "this mass to four, domestic.: stretort!, ? In. Ire land the Protestant'. ascendency had been ternie, the Garrison of the Country. Did he propose to increase tdie Garrison ? No ; What he-proposed was, to.convert the besiegers into Garrison. The House could not fur a motnent believe that these four mil lions of People felt :the same* as 'their fc.llw.v sub. jells. A recruit who could: never hope to become a sergeant ; a Collor who despaired of ever coming_ front before the mast, • and sharing the' glory, anti honour.of his profession': these were 'men-nor likely to be 'very , ardent: in the cause in which they were engaged. : :the - House: acceded to the wish of. the Petitioners, he was. sanguine that the benefits ocentriog would amply , tecompence them ; if' they rejected he-was. sanguine that the cola. miies that 1..001d follow were -nut apprehended by many.' In that case he trusted to the aft'aion and the go dispositi oi of the Catholics ; but there wits stiniething ungenerous in expeettog men to fiolit with teal for a Constitution, the -advantages o f which tlsey did not enjoy,' Hiving, as , he extiattsted the patience qt the House, lie would in irutie upon theta AO further than to move; Tlott:the Petitic,n Of the Roman Catholics of Ireland, Itc. is., fared to a Committee.' : : h r. DUIC.;EPAN - had examined the subjed. - with all the 'attention which' its importance de_ mantled ; his local knowledge gave bins very supe. nor advantages - in estimating its „merits, and Abe ,rt-sult eonsitleration was, that bIS opinion was diametrically :Opposite to that of the .Hooottr ableGentlenian who had just seated hitnseif: t Even 'nti' tNe• question 'of- the' Union, .that li,itootrahle Gentleman' :and he completely 'tlifferd.. .I.le - was prtind - to tecolletl thatohe ihad„been the first to urge the necessity of: the measure in the Irish Pattiament in the year 1793, arid its still retained the s'arnesentioients - with tes t ed to it, as be then ekpressed. regard to 'the sit`qee't to )relot.. triidiately before' the:' House, the Bon. Goth man fitadrmistaken his . Opinion on - one part of it. , lie had .nevertrup.p.. , sed•the Oath ,olSupretnacy to be an ex., elusive las So. On the contrary, he though; it not an excliiiiie law toany but 'Prait4rs. , -The Learned D.itti,r entered into a : scrutiny of. the.names attached to the , :Petition, which he-contendeil .was a par t i a l one, and by no means to tte,,c6ntitle red as a ge.. netal Petition from the IRtitrian Caih4lics of Ireland. Of the men : of - raidc only one, the.Chainnae, be. lonicA - to the anctent Nobility. of the Country ; t h e riot o ere all created - ituring the reign of. His present M+sty. • For nthetienCounties not a single:Sqb, scriber' ppeared ; and-faux others y.Cork, Wexford, Lowt'tm, and .Down, had onlyoone each. , Qoe of the •Ddegates,: Mr,' Scully, he did.'nooktiow, he bad' riever seen blur; but thislie knew, that: ie was 'the "atithr" ;of :a . pamphlet in his.hand, which, had Ott:idea his attentrott; - .: and.: he Was, he con. ; fesited,'lnsuch -Coronet,' _to find: him in such respeuable '.ceimpatiy:: The ,LeornedoDodor read several': passages from this parnilltiet, and, dwelt Upon their inipropriety, particularly oie. in which Mt. Scully comments un the 'mode in, which Kings May be misled, hinting at 'what he loons quibbling 'about 'a - Coronation and another iii 41rich „he contemptuously, ;calls the . ment `I-160e of 'Dublin' a -Cluh.houie... Now when a than like this . was • sent over ; as a-Delegite, the Hotte% would judge. what sort-of a Petition= it and what cEaratlet for respedability it deser.ved.-! He- begged the 'particular attention of the House .to that part of the Petition in which the. Petitioners affirm that they have taken all the oaths required, except that of Supremacy, and-that their eviucation had ',writ them to be' fully sensible:uf the . mural obligation of-an - oath, - He would - produce the works of seecral -writers.: of the Raman Catholic. per.. suasion, ' and modern writers too, who had setoliii matter in'iheoclearest .After the year 170, by permission of the Apostolic ,Sce, they :had f.x. punged a passage from one of Their oaths, relating to the unlitnited power. of Priests but this ,purl. :fied oath, on which they laid' so touch Stress, 1 4; not been taken by a :hundredth part of the Catho lies in' Itelaod. The -argument -adduced, by..the Hunourahie Gentleman, namely, that the adoption t;..e prayer of the Petition ~would liecessarily produce unit , n and unanitnity,o4Nas similar to . .the ' one - used by farneto the Saconti,, when he ,was sitous establishing a: general liberty. ,of con- L science. -By the prosectrion.of iii4:lll-.judged 11) " . sutea that . - uotorttinate .Monarch hpit ..his !Abram: ; and similar proceedings rnight7lhake.modern Save. reigns in theirs. If tlie . -propobition W.it allot, anti' unwise iss the time at Jaioes, it, statist 'be. unjust and ~.toiwilse at- 'present. 'f tie Roman : Ca tholics. Of -Ireland lal:outed under rho ineapacities wbatever, in with - their fe.autv subjeds did, not partiApate. They 'were on a • level with others. '''.x-oyitey excluded themselves- (rain the: sitwations to tc Inch aspired, by Jelosinu to take the. Oath Supiemacy.t . 'Yhe Learned Doctor traced the history of this oath o -and conteridtol, that , at its °tight, in the reign, of .Henry - VIII. it was worded in much , strattger terms Oafs it now is,-- Vnen Elizabeth renewed it utter teroporory glitpension under *diary, she atteted the :Vora .Idprettie 1- - I.ntiv of the Church inta--Swpretne Governess. A. fundamental ,article in the faith was,, that the P o pe passessed iii.q..ant; s spiritual buk tcairral dominion rover the wh:ile Chureh. Dr. .Troy (a Catholic wtiter) says, that nen:) , the Villth first .denied that supremacy, and: , as theiefor!rin usurper. WhAt was,the ipfercnce, , bw. that all his successors were tpuarpers ? The oath, tal,ten liy theßainan tholic Priests - on brrithed the utmost ran cour again , t Heretics, a ,, d , though, as.. Dr. Troy tells us, ,a very sir. ;lig has been expunged from it, it is yet suftictitly hostile. Th a Learned Dador (voted site Canons of the . Council of Constance, aod thOse of the Council . of Trent (which imitate'dthe,n),..to shetv the violent spirit of persecutlpn which pervaded the- ads of the Rntrian C,t: ; and itroved it was to veptrve the spiritii,il premacy from thq , ternpor,ll s upremacy. He 0 e . .. • scribed the burnings l'r,testttnta .which sue- creded issuing ;of the 1 . 3.,cr-e,s ot 'those Cohncil , , vuet into a long tie! ~f the Buits of.the dif. icrent Popes, in which it stated,, among other things,-that.• oaths to heretics were nolittic , , and ought %Vt totlz_4celno at all . binding ! Dr. net, an .Apostolic Vicar, and a ~k eeper,of. the con . vciences- ularly Catholics in this Country; itt a- 'f reatise. of his, that• the, fulfillin,of, every t t y a . n law,. or t.4.her engascrnent, confirmed oat h, m ust turn on the cir,linal virtue of pro Aepce ; that the of N inure and, of G.id WAS paramount to any other. - St r : ) was the-doctrine of the National Convention of ranee, and such is the dodrlne pf Dr. Miloer, Ana the in CathtAiC'Spf. Great Britain anti Irciantl. A ptetty good proof . - slcretl they thought the obligtttion cat an,path I Pr. Troy Sayi that V,4ificiplC;‘t . a Catholics are unchat.qe.ll.le, ant app t ly at 41) .drnes, anti citctrol Ta ocer, ; .rod fIZMVd - C) turves, .that they donot_tiiirrt an iota from their, n cestr)p,and that uprper niece arpli, co t t le to their r eligion . than to their jurisprudence. ~.Thi.ll. were no tn,4triages ~ (ire but that the Pope'!: , eould - diAlrivc t!t . ein. He had the so. j.proneau,t tleterinine vrhethcr'or not, the ;inn shwild lithe!'s property, or Olt Witi. , ) , ,y _nor‘c-e,i to h r !Ho Ps estate. The power of : excooltro;,44.:io(i too Was i very danger , 44,19. one to Im. trtht,eil in Such hinds. The Hint. Gencl;.m tit luta asserted, that t,e bpprernitcy of the rOpe evil,. In 11..4 1 ,.)tic ..1v sr nftlefltg, I' • where the life o j.:-. f every Su..t i;',at the beck ~ f the Prince, it con.,,,pi , mc..e what Ittligton prevailed, hut in Ire:. Stairi It l7..7carne a In3qtr 01 'serious itnportanqe. (..)f c"invernitt;tits•on the face of the, C O I Eh the., d 3 .01101 Goverr.lll7.!,r demanded in sr ittlirrt: , at•ily ',lle exclusion pi R , )ln.iti Catholics for ever, - from tiny share in its lalisiature, t,ircideilly inimical as they hail eV et w rt , thenisel yes tobere 7 tio; and he oinlal not avoid ex,,r!.si;,g his Astoniih. : mew any rati , mai map sit rald their ad. Fur his tart, al all , and under all cireurnstaneesi he shoull oppose such .a measure.-- On what grounds, weto Ite,;enue. ()Meets ineoinpe— tent to sit Kirliaotent ? Why were ,Gt;nilenten ohligea to IT sct.,3Ccttalll L in t ica Property"to'cina. fietn,(o,r• t r. oi n in g Reureyntiiiive , . Lif . the,Peo. Is l e Why were Po t:eaten .aril licrisionnts txcluded theylia,) put ified the flit fn ito t.u.ipicion ei'flttiptitin by an appe:ll to ti'.(!ir litettUSe the ilrglyk ; :t sti ` ch pirAntions might ore. rate preju.licialiyagaint the St,te, Ii iw ntoch trilre thinggrou , would 111 the ':oit•rarion of L i.; lies in the 13 'lie , ' ! 1; c :,, ; :t any f r : .,trictidnfiaol been taken off Cathuic., in. f'( iln , l they re. indicted iwile:Aly tltttot. \V! y? N i ):n to civet but thq 'by the laws as ti be ti:lal.)le t 11l , nl:nt the bonds ,were thcy As . to the represerltatin9sthat ‘vt•re mode . Stat 2 of t!ie i'optiiiiipn of itel:tri.l, he c..ntendcd that they wet e' .founiled 'in the ?...t E r. Swift ealsrkated the nu it4.Eer t,f the I . ..ll.l'hi!ants of Irela.nd at one ard a half ; a;id in 1 76 z, Mr. - Burke, one pf their ow.) ‘vriicri,;rqi,.:sented tl e iocroase pi the ,PratF,tatit,,ai , k o f. re g r ti fitey,,,big at that perio:l one halt i;l' the ppp u latiott. It. was imp .isit)lC, therefore, ti ;it t i le 01,)UI.I th F... precr.nt da a y .11 , litif lii Cour becaus,e , 1119' that Collpijy, t!i.it it IS 11.11i)cble fs4 - it ,to h,tvr a poolationr , f five but wty suppose the Ctithr.)lics to have increased to four ' the Prote'Strints were otilyorte ? Was it to be . suppi.;se'd that the . Protestants C ,, 0 ) 1 1 t v,t proplg3te. 4s Wc!ii the ? lie. .aisi rik ) t hituuosc the I.Tiole r uitiation 4c) imount to Inc6i,ali,ave three po. palation of . Erlgland and Wales at ilia time of the Revolution );.,d bee t ) ,090,0D0, and by the 1 t te, turns a; teared to he only tti,orpo,oQr.) , ,vats it to he supp.;;sed, that, the populatton Ireland hail quadrupled within ilia last Century; that of Eng Lind and Wales - had ordy of - one ? N a one third of the personal psopertyr , of the I;.ingthon, not the one hundresitii,part of the real property Was in the liati4l L.f lie ea:holies of It Incl. i'he;t'.itliolic I , nor -far out itive.Ortred the Protestants of that &icri,ition. i ile l ionourable Member argneil.,t l l,lt ill: Clith , rlh!4 Ct4riLitrable merit fur their . c:ir,dit:t at the l ) )ion s and had . c icduced • fr , ) 4 l . that city hilt a right .- t o , t o t of all Y. tt%if Rights What it 43 tkiF the year 179; a — meet. ir4v . uf. tot.k littee in Fr.iguii.s ' treet, the large,r that I, ad ever asetnbled in Ire_ land, being e f inipo,e,,4,nl,tleleg tie.; from every part tit Irclana, ,He was at a foss to know Why' the Governinent pertatittettstach an asst:lnlaly. At'rhis meeting they had Come' to one 110111 mops resolution, .that colle4tiveiy and individually they would resist even, their own ernancipar tun, if it were tc,i be prn. cured by a Legislative I.Ltion. In one' of . the speeches of ii d e m igugues kit that day, the French Itevolution, was praised, , anti - the' War against that Nation . was styles; 'an impiotl, crusade.—Such had been at that' period tlie loyalty i•if the Certliolics to t he F,,, g li s b Gnyernment, and to the conneicinn Entlatal, In 1797 tilt> , ratt'At the R . ,oyai ix cluitige, and 4recd to xesnlations at violent aq the former. He ; bad never !net ol4t tit the r-f,nir J eubio, a Democr.tt,. a Bl,ll:herrier, alt EvclTly oi4 CountrY; that . was not a friend , to the Cath,lie Cratirte: l'Acre W 3s d Zir Ittli,UttiOn et the [lan 01 If IriA-Cathollcs in tba thition of seti'antt t handicraftsmen, and when the' Rebellion broke ow, n r en}e . ithstaniiing antecedent kindness, they Murdered their misfits.without any Scruple. .A short time bea fore the breaking nut of the Rebellion, tile ants'of . Orishes, headed by 'their Priests, had taken the'oalts of allegiance, and yet in three weks after they had risen ibinsurreflion, and mtirdered their m aiters, 'neat!ed , Fither 'Murphy. If the men. sure PrOvseil by thetlon.Mitubt.rshould".; , r A to, a much larger pro; ortine of Carholics than he supposed would - be. returned ‘ the next General hefore tw.a I ) ,tilignaents there''WOuLtbe (h,rliolics in, the Hon' c. If a Minister was it distress',•w4 it not tn be supposed • that such a bed} , th,ike their -terms with , him - ? :and, hit security would the Con , ,lry havd, if they sli.-n!ti oblige hint to eomply with their wishes ? and in the event of a Catholic I.,nrd tenant an d. C J iholic app tinted for that Conntry, the Pailnilies would not next a ttack the Church' Est4lighttient ? had no , d thar, in theit present application, thq Led that in vieve,. anit that they woUltlai • soon as they should have the power, seize on all the Church Property.- They were all to a - Man Dem , cra:i ; all ltepubli. cans, disposed . to 'subservient to France.— Wouldnot theil if they sliot!d 'sucSeed in this in.. stance, urge that, as the S..: , ,teh Nation, which has fewer representativeti here than Ireland;enjoys some of the poWer Iterand all fte patronage at_ home, they too chi utl lie atimitied to their 'pr . ipor.. tion of influence and . lower ?lie could not think t that, what wa:i refused rt") 'English G . etitletrin 'who Were ralt1;11>le-Sohjellp, would e 'granted tO Irish Romanis's. This 'theasore Soldit induce the repeal t h e ,Te;,Lt of:the Corpse t i t' An, of the Rill of Rights, and of thc Act: iii,Settledlent some rlftitSuiais. 'r The ill the : Kink shoidd 'tint merry 4 Papist under pain of forTei,ore Of 1113 CroWn, nor an Heir " Apparent ni. - A'rri , a p ‘i pkr without dicualifyingbitme i t g to the they then think that ;here wai a' jleonio,. or aii" indiVidnal Itiett I 'to Fr-tece, that Would nett - wish - such'an"alter:iti is is that the , rrte‘aqttre roduce iri `our happy s t iturio*? The'R 01;t1,iitl, he contended, eni at present 111 , 7. security of property, a gr: , ter prAportion of Civil Rig" , ti and Religious r than the nest tavonred Sub . ictql of any Nati n i n . t h e World. Tilt 'with-lioldi , .g of tal • ,pnwei from Sul,j •al nor, Of the E,tab:ished Re gion had never o , : , r;rt corteicletetta 11,,Irdstiip in. t Provinces. lie had already ihewn - their overt later %A. Titets, and from the d their COuheils . , that' the alllptions in the Periti. - Sit ;were nut conformable to' the ptinciples or the ;tice of their 'justiet• Biack3tnne h.iJ elate fr . that the Test an I Cot poration Atis vier e the bulwark cif t he C r.be Mennier who ha argued the c Ise ha 3 taken' notice only 'of thleoro nation 0 nth pre yet ilii d in the 'reign of King ham and Queen ;Mary, but had not taken - any notteet of the oit Ii prescribed ihthe,reign niQueeo - Annest rE er the Union with Scotland, by whicli,.the atl,l Queen at their Coronation were obliged (to they wound maintain violable the C, Insil:. ttition of the E.. inpire in Church and State, as exist itig at the time of tat'Union; Hon. Genrie Irian had argued, that His Mdiesty Was bound to a.i?,ree:t2 any measure which had passed both lionses of Parliamtlnt; lint he contended on the ccintrart', that 11.4' M.,j,..sty was bound by the teritti'ef: his' P ritt ' s ',n it a e ton a 9 t' 4 4,4 11 :0 , would Piave. re f us e lt;:ve t . l l l .l e ls e l tl7:! l t4 ra ,o l f A alt e e n rit t i; a t T ire Fundathental 'LAWS 'of the Realm as they eii,ted at t l ,ie time ()flaking it. The Oath was bindi n g, A A he tl+ -qlied that' any House of Parliament h ad - the Power to dispense with its obligation. That wan a cltriete, and belonged not' to any part of our L-12 . ,islatu)e. He was not one of those itivaelere , WEO In.ltnraine I an. opinion ;0; hoisild 'to give ilia' .A..sent to ant rn. attire. that :mil p.;s , ed:both Hauges of l'arlidmetrt,, in tit t 1.1;e - , tlint-pirt' of the -L eg tla ture would'be blank. Li had beets that little cor.ccding what the Catholic* claimed; but he .o,.as of opinion, that thrugli liitltt rhiAht' he granted, ti n t little. was rile Supreme Le... gi,t..itite I f the Cotlntry. If the grant of the 1 lee. tive FtaniJ;e., kva , ; to-be:maae an argtnnent for the griintinf; cif the I), ,, ,: , (eit•ntative Franchise,' it was with him an argument for taking away the Eleaive Ft anc hi 3e , Repteatitative Franchise c ould out be - I. , :rantecl - v•itititit the destp4lian ' the Cotittition. • Tr AV concurred with his [ion. Friend • this .subp.al to the con soerJ..iori 'of the 11,t1 , 3 , ,,, in depreeating all kind 01 wt one or the 'otMr. He' rlid not forget the 'Ciroirnsatio:ls that hart led to the th,t taken place, and the terrible Corn(egnene , ts that had, followed, at t he r/ ;h0,r,..0 t he causes, noes tia hinge' existed, - it watt his ol ihion. that ail . should cease also. f t .ll4ritheret.i the ckdati.4o, but he forgot the aniot)sity. 'rhe catiStis that had produced 'the Venal Code 11:141 also ceatedi anti he therefore re. trounced all oniroosities to the Rebellion, all ;m i. tnaities..to rule. Lawr.. The gileStion 'w,is nit all 'the 14..icried I)4t or It stated it, whethe'r tbei should qualify it fifty intAividuals to tit' in Oat should d v e il s i t f t7y t y a great vital b..d andof Tillie f''llow_sult ) tc, principle 4' which h.sinpite would be etfeetuala ly deteude4 They :W4t . .1.4.i give Ink( little- to Ire. • land,' but the tr rant ,w fi'tt'y thirr , to themselves. 'The argunients of the Srned mien) in went the length sif Proving, (hat the Roman , Catholics were eeitiCilable s to the Cantritaiinit, that the Ik.:, :m;l6 Ciithali:Clergy were an eater - 41e class, that sought' the Subveision of the .G,)vrinrnent - .-- But the I.l , olneti Doe toes argument **as fallacious; lie entklviv:reA to prsiVe, that to be g.joil Sul), jells duly :.hould be had Catholics. tits argil. in nt went tit inew, that they.wshed to estalllish 'an 'eternal ,war in the interiot . of Ireland, an eternal war with din; Country, and an eternal frit:n(lo'6p with France. MI argutoent, it, pub... 'and art IV3siurt sli ul.I talc plaLe, would sial.))zet the Printer to ide..intliCt% d. The 1„,, I), .:toe's hostility talk in the whole eact, tit .at dorati-ln, the peter. the present,' a,A the latute ; at all tunes, and under all citeumstduces, lie dared Idniself the...enemy , of their, power. It