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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS.—Nor. 24. I \ 4 t /t P. 4 ., • :Lt A - s g ' The House sat at half-past four. The Duke of RICHMOND and Lord MIDDLETON took the oaths and their scats. Lord KENYON presented a petition from Whitchurcla in Shropshire, against the union of Sodor and Mann. The Earl of ABERDEEN presented a petition horn the members of the Stock Exchange, London. complaining of the present system adcpted by the Post-office, and re- COmmendira- Mr. Hill's plan to be carried into execution. The Duke of NEWCASTLE gave notice, that on Monday next he should present a petition from the Protes tant Association which had been entrusted to his care, the principal object of which was to pray that Roman Catholics might be excluded from scats in Parliament. Lord BROUGHAM said, in conformity to what he had stated last night, he bad to move for certain returns. His Noble Friend was net in the House last night, no doubt from his fatigue, owing to his heavy attendance in the blouse for the last two or three months ; but having now enmmunicated with him he found that there would be no objection to the production of the returns, as there mid not be, be wished to move for I —The first was, an teount of all Sugars imported into the Criited Kingdom from .the Colonies and Settlements of the West Indies, during i!ct three years ending in January, IBa-t, viz., the three years pi:resling the emancipation. The next se as for a similar accono: af the imports for three years end• ir g 11137—the three years subsequant to the emancipation. His statement last night referred to those two distinct pe riods. The next was for a return of all sugars imported from the West Indies into London during each of those six years. it would be remembered that a certain portion of the twenty millions granted for emancipation had been awarded and either paid, or wa'a now payable, to the parties in whose favour the awards had heal: made. He was informed that this affected about seventeen millions of the amount ; there remained, then, three millions still uraavrarded, and subject to the claims of the different parties. His next two motions were, consequently, in reference to that measure. The first was for a return of all the sums awarded by the C o mmissioners, stating the amount of each award—the party to whom the award was made, and the colony to which it applied. The next was a return of the total amount of the sums yet claimed in respect of which no award had yet been made. His next moOon was for an account of all the sums paid in the shape of expensog attending the Commission. INIPRISONMENT FOR DEBT. The LORD CHANCELLOR laid on the table the Im prisonment for Debt Abolition Bill—a Bill for the purpose of amending the law between debtor and creditor, and abo lishing imprisonment for debt, except in certain cases of fraud. The object of the Bill was to improve the remedy of credi tors against debtors, and at the same time to do away with imprisoning, except in cases of fraud. The Bill, as now presented to their Lordships, had received the sanction of the House of Commons ; and as he thought it important that their Lordships' attention should be called to it before they had much other important business before them, lie gave notice, that in now moving the first reading of the Bill, he should move the second reading of it on the first Tuesday of next month. Lord ABINGER understood the Noble and Learned Lord who had just sat down, to have said, that he should not support the Bill, if it were merely a Bill to abolish imprisonment for debt. The Noble and Learned Lord stated he supported it on other grounds. Now he (Lord Abinger) must say, that if the Bill were a measure for the purpose of modifying to a certain extent the Law of Arrest for Debt on ?nestle process, he should feel much disposed to support it upon that ground ; but if he understood the provisions of the Bill which came from the House of Commons last Session, it was a Bill that, under colour of giving to the creditor further security as a compensation for the abolition of imprisonment for debt, occasioned so great a change in the adjustment of property, that he for one viewed it with very considerable alarm. In this coun try every man had a right to protect what he supposed to be his just rights before every tribunal that the law permitted. If he brought before the Court below a question as to whether he had a right to bring an action or defend an action, he had the advantage of their Lord ships' final decision. But one of the provisions of this Bill was, that a judge, in the first instance, was to decide whether a man had a defence or not from which there was to be no appeal. He wished to suggest to their Lordships that, upon a measure so important as this, affecting the relation of debtor and creditor, the safest mode was to proceed by steps. Some years ago a proposition was made to the House of Commons for prohibiting the power of the creditor to arrest for a debt on mesne process. It was thought proper to try it on a limited scale at first : a good deal of opposition was made to the Bill at one time, but it passed, and it turned out to have a very useful effect.—(Hear, hear.) When their Lordships considered that this was a Bill which bad occupied the House of Commons during three ses sions, and which had not been passed in that Houle after so much consideration, without considerable debate, their Lordships would see that it was one which they ought not to pass without much examination. It was not merely a Bill for the abolition of imprisonment for debt, but a Bill to alter altogether the laws relating to debtor and creditor. He trusted, therefore, that his Noble Friend would give them time to consider the Bill in its de tails before he pressed it to a second reading. Lord BROUGHAM—My Lords, I rise to suggest the expediency of not delaying the second reading of this Bill longer than is absolutely necessary. If your Lordships put it off for a fortnight or three weeks beyond the time specified by my Noble Friend who introduced it, it appears to me as unavoidable in that case that the measure cannot be passed until after the recess ; and I think that if that be the case, it will give great disappointment to the friends of the measure both in the House and out of doors. But, my Lords, I do not think with my Noble and Learned Friend opposite that it is of necessity impossible that the Bill may be passed before the recess.—(Cries of " Hear.") It has been amply dis cussed in the other House. It was not discussed merely for three Sessions in the other House, as my Noble Friend supposes ; but it was also referred for consideration to a Select Committee up stairs, and its whole details were scrutinized before that Committee ; and it was only on the Report of that Committee the Bill was taken up by the other House. I can see no reason why the Bill could not pass in this House at least before Christmas—nor do I see any, after what has passed already in the other House in respect to this see no reason that it should not pass before Christmas in that House also, unless indeed your Lordships make very great alterations indeed. I shall not trouble your Lordships with .going into a dis cussion of the details at this moment, a; I shall have abundant opportunity to discuss them when the Bill ar rives at the proper stage for that discussion. I think, my Lords, that as this not a new subject, to put off the second reading to Friday week is abundant for the examination of its details, or at least for principle.—( Hear.) I should not further trouble your Lordships, but that I am extremely anxious to set right a misrepresentation which has been spread in other places, which arose out of a disap pointment occasioned by your Lordships' postponement of this measure. It is a fact to which I can bear testi mony, that this House, in 1835, was not to blame at all, whatever other sins it may have to answer for.—CA laugh.) The Bill came up to us at so late a period of the Session as my Noble friend, who was not then a Member of this 11011.3 e, has actually stated—at a period of the Session when we were still employed upon the Bill for the reform of Municipal Corporations—at the end of the session—so late as the sth of September—l ask if, under such circum stances, and at such a period, it was possible for us to proceed with a measure which, although I am friendly to the Bill, I must admit to be one of a large and sweeping nature—such as no greater or more sweeping change in the law of debtor and creditor was ever made. I think, therefore, that on the sth of September we could not enter into a discussion on such a measure. But than it was said, also, that the bill was postponed through the next Session of 1836. The blame of that was thrown upon me ; against which blame I am minded to de;end myself. Indeed I cannot say that it was blame, for it was said with much courtesy by the Noble Duke op posite, and it was also stated with great courtesy in other places, that the postponement of the Bill throughout the Session of 18:36 was owing to my indisposition and conse quent non-attendance in Parliament. Now my Lords, that was not the case. I should be very sorry if it were the case, that through my indisposition, or through my absence from my duties in thi s H ouse , so important and bene ficial a change of the law should be postponed. But when it was put off, at the end of the Session of 1835, it was agreed at my suggestion, I believe, and with the concurrence of the Noble Duke, that in the following Ses sion we should avoid the same manner, and that at the early part of the next Session, we should proceed to those measures which were to originate with us or which had already passed the oth er H ouse, l eav i ne f or t h e latter part of Session plenty o f t i me to entertain such meas ures as might come up to us f rom the other House. It was admitted on all hands th a t th e r i g h t course was to originate the Bill in this House at the beginning of the Session. That was the understanding with the Noble Duke opposite, upon my proposition, and that was the understanding which was assented to by my N o bl e Friend at the head of his then Majesty's Government. Thee came the next session of Parliament, and according to the arrangement which had been thus made, I su pp ose d it would have been brought in at a period when there wa s a good chance of its passing. Instead of that it was post poned to the 18th June—( A Noble Lord—The 1 it in ashen if there were not solid reasons for postponing tm the minds of many Noble Lords, there was at least a fair and plausible pretence for laying it aside again. I was not here myself, and I do not therefore mean to say that any pretences mere resorted to, or that there were not solid reasons for post polling it—l form no opinion on the subject. But it was said here, and it was said elsewhere, that in consequence of my unfortunate absence—unfortunate in more than one parti cular—that the moasure had been again postponed. Now, my Lords, there was not the shadow of-foundation for that statement. My Noble Friend at the head of his then Majest,v's Government knows that there was not a shadow of foundation for that statement. Ten days before the beginning of the session of 1836, I corresponded with him, reminding him of the arrangement that bad been come to ; but, above all remindirg him that the Bill for the Abolition of the Imprisonment for Debt had been post poned, on the express compact and understanding that it would be brought in at the beginning of the next session ; and when my Noble Friend suggested that he hoped I would be able to attend and take charge of that measure, I having originated it in the other House, my answer to my Noble Friend was, (and I have his reply ac knoa hedging the receipt of it, which was also before the be ginning of the session, in order that I might give him the earliest notice on the subject that I could net attend, that I was forced from my state of health to remain away, but that I hoped, instead of being able to attend at the beginning of the Session, I had compounded (for that was my expression) for beingable to come by Easter; but before that it was entirely out of the question, and that he must look out for some other person to take charge of this measure in pursuance of the compact. I have also the answer deny Noble Friend, received before Parliament begun, in which lie courteously, as he always writes, ex pressed his regret at the state of my health, but that he had taken steps to have the measure brought on. I will leave this statement of the case to your Lordships. Persons in utter and dark ignorance of what had occurred, in another House, have thrown the blame of the post ponement of that important measure upon my illness. —(Hear, hear.) I hope that I have satisfied your Lord ships that you are not to blame for the postponement of this measure in 1835, and that the blame was not mine in 1836. The Duke of WELLINGTON said a few words, which, owing to his Grace turning his back to the Gallery, and the low tone of voice in which he ut tered them, were almost entirely inaudible. We understood him to say, that their Lordships did not object to the principle of the Bill, and we believe that he entered into some explanation as to the causes of the postponement of the Bill in 1836. He said the Bill was different from the one introduced in 1837, and he also said, that their Lordships ought to have an opportunity of fully and fairly considering the measure. Lord BROUG H AM—I did not complain of the post ponement of the Bill on a former occasion by your Lord ships, but of a misrepresentation elsewhere.—(Hear, hear.) An Honourable Member having asked an Hon. Friend of mine why the Bill was not brought forward, and urging him to introduce it, he got up and stated that the reason of the delay was my absence from indisposition. My Lords, that was stated in utter ignorance of all that had passed upon the subject.—(Hear, hear.) Lord LYNDHURST—My Lords, your Lordships complained that the Bill, after being allowed to languish in the House of Commons, was sent up in a hurry at the close of the Session to your Lordships' House, without allowing you time for giving it proper consideration ; and, my Lords, I think it was a very just ground of complaint.—(Hear.) The LORD CHANCELLOR said his object merely was to direct their Lordships' attention to the fact, that the House had never expressed any opinion adverse to the principle of the Bill.—(Hear, hear.) As to the part of his Noble and Learned Friend's observations which applied to the lateness of the bringing in of the Bill in 1836, it was quite obvious, that as he (the Lord Chancellor) had taken upon himself the conduct of the Bill, he alone was responsible for not having brought it in earlier.—(Hear, hear.) He was willing to take upon himself the blame that was due to him in that respect, and ho was quite willing to state the reasons of it. It was very well known, that his Noble and Learned Friend was at that time detained in the country from illness—( Hear)—. and he certainly was not to blame for the delay, but un doubtedly the innocent cause of it, inasmuch as he (the Lord Chancellor) considered that he was rendering the most beneficial service to the promoters of the Bill, to delay bringing it forward until it was likely to obtain the assistance of his Noble and Learned Friend. The Noble Lord knew nothing of that—he imputed no blame to him in that respect—but undoubtedly it was delayed with a view to have his assistance. He was desirous the House should have every opportunity of considering the principle and effect of the Bill. With that view he should wish the House to take it into consideration as speedily as possible, but still, if it were thought that the day he had named was too early for the second reading, he had no objection that the second reading should be delayed, if required, a few days more. - Lord BROUGHAM rose, and with great energy said— I did not say my Noble and Learned Friend blamed me more than I said the Noble Duke blamed me ; but I blame him—l blame him exceedingly, now that he tells me that his cause of postponement in bringing in the Bill was in consequence of my absence.—(Cries of " Hear.") He ought not to have done so. With all the kindness and courtesy that he may have intended towards me, there is mixed up with it so much of the grossest mistake of facts, the most entire want of recollection of dates, the most crassid and dark ignorance of every one particular which prevailed during even the first four months of that year, as utterly astonishes me.— (Hear, hear.) There is not the shadow of a shade of foundation for the statement. I say it with all possible respect to my Noble and Learned Friend, that he has totally forgotten all the particulars, or that he was utterly misinformed, or that he was grossly ignorant of all the facts that took place during the first five months of the last year. If any one person bad had communication with my Noble Friend at the head of his Majesty's Government, they could not have had the least doubt whatever that I should not. be in my place till Easter—that was certain—and that after Easter I should also not be in my place—and that was perfectly certain. No one knew that better than my Noble Friend at the head of her Majesty's Government, and the Bill must have been postponed for some other reason which my Learned Friend, in the multiplicity of his business has forgotten, and not on account of my absence. Lord ABINGER proposed that the second reading should be taken on Monday or Tuesday fortnight. Lord MELBOURNE objected to that delay. Would not such a course be dawdling with business ? lie had no particular interest in the Bill, nor was lie particularly desirous that the object of this Bill should be carried into effect—but he had great anxiety for the regularity of the proceedings of the House ; lie had an anxiety that it should appear that the public business of the House was not unnecessarily delayed or procrastinated.—(hear, hear.) One of the first counts in the indictment which the Noble and Learned Lord oppo site (Lord Lyndhurst) annually preferred against the Ministry at the end of the Session—(Laughter)—was , why had they not proceeded with the Imprisonment for Debt Bill—why had they not proceeded with the Bill to remedy this great evil—and why had they slumbered upon that?—(Hear.) Ile was, therefore, not only anxious for the sake of the House that no further delay should take place, but also that the Government might not at any future period be made the subject of reproach. 0.1 the whole he thought it better that the date of his Noble and Learned Friend on the Woolsack should stand. The day originally proposed for the second reading of the Bill by the Lord Chancellor was agreed to. Lord \VII A RNCLIFFE presented a petition from the Chamber of Commerce of Dundee, praying for Reform in the Post-office arrangements, and particularly in fits our of the plan as propounded by Mr. Rowland Hill. The House then adjourned. THE UN, LONDON, SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 25, 18;7. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—Nov. 24. The SPEAKER took the Chair at a quarter before four o'clock. Mr. FELLOWES, Sir S. GLTNN, and Mr. HEATIICGTP., pre sented petitions relating to Local Bills, of uhich ue did not bear the particulars. THE BALLOT. Mr. GROTE presented a petition from Cirencester in fa vour of the Ballot. The petitioners stated that the grossest intimidation and bribery prevailed at the late election, and that there could be no protection for the freedom of election, but the Vote by Ballot.—(Hear, hear, hear.) The petition was signed by 320 persons, whose professions and residences wore annexed to their signatures, and amongst tl 4su wore sc. veral Magistrates.—( Hear.); H LIME stated that he had been requested to support the prayer of the petition, and he believed that unless that prayer was complied with, it would be impossible to carry the Reform Bill into effect, with the advantages which it was in tended to produce.—( Hear, hear.) POST OFFICE IMPROVEMENTS. Mr. GROTE presented a petition from a considerable number of citizens:of London, in favour of Mr. Rowland Hill's plan fur improved regulations in the Post Office. SHERIFFS' COURTS. Captain PECHEL L gave notice that , on the first day a f t( r the recess, he would move for leave to bring in a Bill to ex tend the recovery of debts, in the Sheriffs' Courts, to sums not exceeding bOL The (lox. MEMBER also gave notice, that on the same day he would move for leave to bring in a Bill to amend the laws relating to Licensed Victuallers. THE ELECTION CONSPIRACY. Mr. L ANGDA LE presented a petition from Beverley, stating that a combination existed to destroy the freedom of election, and praying for the interference of the House. Mr. THORN - It:CY presented a petition from 100 inhabi tants of Fromc, praying the House to adopt some measure of national education. The petitioners complained that the great bulk of the rising generation were educated at charity schools, which they considered unworthy of a great nation. An HON. MEMBER presented a petition from Southampton, complaining of the working of the apprenticeship system in the West Indies. Captain PE C II E L L moved that an humble address be pre. sensed to her Majesty, praying for a return from every Gaoler and Keeper of a House of Correction in Ecglalid and Wales, of the number of prisoners in custotli o❑ the 27th of Noveadwr, 1837, for hid at the sessions. Mr. El INDLEY gave notice that on the 20th of Febvuary, or on whatever other day his Hon. Friend the Member for Oldham brought forward his motion for the repeal of the Poor-laws Amendment Act, he should move that the House be called over. STANDING ORDERS ON RAILWAY BILLS. Mr. GUEST gave notice that he should on the 14th of December call the attention of the House to the S:anding Orders upon Railway Bills. Sir EDWARD SUGDEN gave notice, that on the 4th of December he would move for leave to bring in a Bill to suspend, for three months from the Bth of DecCmber, the Act passed last Session to amend the Law relating to Wills. ABOLITION OF SLAVERY. Sir E A RDL E Y \VILMOT gave notice that on Monday next he would present a petition, which was yesterby agreed to at a large public meeting in the metropolis, in favour of the immediate abolition of Slavery. COUNTY RATE. Mr. E. BULLER presented o.P;tition from the C,tinty of Stafford, praying that the Country.rate might be placed under the controul of a Central Board. IRISH CHARITABLE BEQUESTS. Mr. BARRON gave notice that, in February, he would move an Address to her Majesty for a commission to inquire into the constitution and administration of the charitable bequests and institutions in Ireland. JOINT STOCK BANKS. Mr. BLE WITT gave notice of a motion to repeal so much of the Act, or Acts, as prevent, or are supposed to pre vent, spiritual persons from holding shares in Joint Stock Banks. Lord JOHN RUSSELL proposed to call the attention of the House to the report of the Solect Committee on the pri vate business of the House. CHURCH EXTENSION.—(SCOTLAND.) Mr. PRINGLE wished to put a question to the Noble Lord if that was the proper time to do so. He begged to ask him whether it was likely the Commission appointed to inquire into Church Extension in Scotland was likely soon to termi nate its labours, and whether there was any probability of a Report being made to that House ? Lord J. RUSSELL, in answer to the Hon. Member, begged to state that a report had been already received from that Commission respecting Glasgow, and would be laid im mediately on the table of the House. Another report was in a great state of progress; he meant one with respect to Leith, which had been received only within the last day or two. HAND-LOOM WEAVERS. Mr. I-I IND LE Y said that during the last Session an address had been agreed to, to his Majesty, praying for the appointment of a Cornin'ttee to inquire into the condition of the handloom weavers. He begged to ask when that Commission would commence its labours, and whether the Head-Commissioners were to sit in London, and the Assistant-Commissioners to go into the country? If the Noble Lord would give him an answer it would satisfy many persons who were interested in the subject. Lord JOHN RUSSELL believed there was some ques tion with respect to where the Commission would sit. The Commission had not been appointed for travelling, but he be lieved it was their intention to appoint Assistant Commissioners who would go through the country. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. Lord JOHN RUSSELL would now proceed to call the attention of the House to the report of the Committee with re spect to the business of the House. He would not enter into any details, because he thought the subject required much farther consideration ; and he should therefore beg leave to propose the re-appointment of the Committee on that subject. He wished to call the attention of the House to two points with respect to the public business, on which their suggestions might be of service. There was no Member of the House but would agree that it was most desirable in promoting the transactions of public busines that they should carry on that business with order rather than by a desultory discussion, when subjects were brought forward different from those of which notice had been given, and thus confuse and disarrange the business of the House. It was felt much during the last Session; the days fixed for the transaction of the Orders of the Day, were employed very often in the discussion of Notices, and that on Notice Days, Orders of the Day were proceeded with and that on many occasions, the House was counted out.--( Hear.) The Noble Lord then referred to a statement of the Committee, from which it appeared that a considerable loss of time had taken place, in consequence of the manner in which the business had been conducted. There were 85 days for the proper sitting of the House, Out of that 83 had been appropriated to Orders of the Day, 12 had been directed to Notices, and on several occasions the House was counted out ; 14 out of the 33 Order Days bad been employed not in the regular business of the House ; and of the 34 Notice Days, six were occupied by adjourned debates; three were oc cupied by Government Bills, and upon noless than six occasions the House had been counted out, and once not called. The Noble Lord conceived there were two ways in which the waste of the time of the House had occurred. One was that upon Order Days Members who had some notice to bring for ward, to which they attached much interest, brought it forward upon moving the Order of the Day, and by that means bringing it forward at a time when the House had appointed subjects of far greater interest for its consideration. Another evil was the custom that had grown up, the Noble Lord believed, since the present Speaker had become a Member of the House, namely, that of Hon. Members giving notices at a long period. For the convenience of the House, a practice grew up of giving notice that a motion would be brought forward before the notice of motion was given, that Members might be prepared for the motion to be brought before the House ; and in conse quence of this practice of giving notice, Members had gone far beyond the original intention of the Heuse, and instead of giving notices for a short time before hand, the Notice-book was tilled with Notices for three or four months together. The con sequence ~f this was, that Members who had motions of im portance to bring forward on questions, which at the beginning of the Session did not form a subject of interest, found themselves unable to procure a day on which to bring forward their mo tion, Thus the Orders of the Day were interfered with, and immediately when the Order of the Day was read from the Chair a motion wag proceeded with. The House had two in stances of this last year ; one was a motion with regard to the affairs of Spain, brought forward by the Right Hon. Gentle man the Member for Launceston (Sir H. Hardinge) ; the other was a motion with respect to the Church of Scot land, and he thought it could not be doubted—indeed, he for one was ready to admit—that both those subs. jects were very fit subjects for the discussion of the House. They were questions which at that time were considered to be of importance, and which the Members bringing them forward were not obliged to give a very long notice of beforehand ; but, in consequence of the Notice Days being all filled up, they were obli g ed to bring them forward on Order Day s, and this occupied the days which were directed by the House to be employed for other business. Now he intended to recommend to the House the propositions made by the Committee for the re form of those evils which applied to Order Days, Mondays and Fridays particularly; but even that would be of no utility unless Members were really impressed with the very great evil of the irregularity which had exited, and were deter mined to carry into effect the propositions which had been recommended. He 'did now hope that Members, particularly those who had lied experience of past Sessions, would think it was most desirable for public business, most desirable for their own convenience, and, ho must F. s y , it was desirable likewise for the character of the House, that the mea sures to be brought forward should be discussed on the days fixed for that purpose, and that there should be an opportunity of bringing forward notices on questions on the regular Notice Days. He had, therefore, pursuant to the recommendations of the Committee, to propose—first, that the Orders of the Day should take precedence of Notices on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays ; and next, that on any Or der of the Day being put from the Chair, no amendment ball be moved, unless to move that another Order of the Day fixed for the same day shall be read, or unless in cases of Committees of Ways and Means and Committees of Supply. Next, that on Notice Days it shall not be permitted to any Member to fix a day beyond the term of fifteen days. He must admit that these were experiments to make the business of the House more regular, without altering much the ancient rules and regulations by which it had been hitherto conducted. In framing these rules he had kept as much as possible within ' the spirit of the old regulations. unless where it was found that it could not be preserved consistent with the due carrying on of the business of the House. These were his proposi.ions and their value would be tested better by the experience of the House than by any arguments of his. Mr. II UME said, that during the last two or three sessions there had been more confusion in the manner in which business had been conducted, and less certainty as to what was to come on than there used to be ; and one reason was, the want of proper attention, on the part of those whose duty it had been considered formerly to be (though undoubtedly it was the duty of all to be present), to take care that the intention of any individual to prevent the proceedings of the House going on should not be successful.—( Hear, and cheers.) Often had the House been counted out by those who ought, on the contrary, to have kept a house.—( Hear, hear.) It wes a mistake to suppose that by depriving a Member of an opportunity of speaking on any particular question time was saved—( Hear, hear, hear)—because if a Member had anything ,really substantial to bring forward, he would take the very means of doing so of which the Noble Lord wished to deprive them. If the officers of the Government would not take care to keep houses when business was to be done, they had no right to prevent Members from having those means of bringing their motions forward.—( hear, hear.) In the Noble Lord's own report, on three days, Notices had been superseded by Government Notices. Six times the House had Leen counted out, and once a House had not been formed. Whose fault was it that the House had been counted out, or had not been formed ?—( Hear, hear.) It was the duty of the Go vernment, who conducted the business of this House, to lend its assistance as much as it could (and it used to he understood that they did so) to make a House.—( Hear, hear.) He ( Mr. 0 1 1 Bo Lord, E b N u t did e thoughtn t mean that to opposet tttwiaeltheiidoemetni ototi foorndtt frequentlyhheo eerf flume) t h oug h t a li tt l e attent i on oug ht t o b e p a id to t hi s e erhaps the h point.—(Ch eers .) the M N r. o S ble n s d e ought oendv, o Order .it t the ea e ) ua d to i m r f e oc e sa t t e l l d iinng t c o a habit inconvenience—he ept 81 habittoeu on the list, and giving it precedence of the first. —( Hear.) Ile thought that Members had enough of anxiety in following the Order's a; they stood on the list.—( Hear, hear.) The Government ought et leeet to give notice of the Order in w hi c h they meant to take the list e ,-( hear.) He felt him self bound to corroborate all that had been said hy hie Hoe, Friend the Member fur Kilkenny, as to the counting cut of the House.—( Hear.) He bad often seen the business of the House defeated, when there were forty or fifty Members will. lug to go on with the business,—( Hear, hear.) He had seen on such occasions, gentlemen stationed at the door to dissuade others f, out in.--( ( tear, ileac.) Sir R. PEEL said that the resolution contemplated two °Vets—one was to restore the ancieoit practice of the House by setting apart particular days for the consideration of Bills, and of what was called the public business of the House. Tile days formerly set :Tait for this were Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Now, he thought it was not unreasonable to preserve two days, Monday and Friday, for what was propzrly called public business, and as the votes of supply come on generally on thosedays, if the whole of these days in the S..ssion were left to public business, they would not be more than necessary. Upon the secor.d point, the resolution which requires that every individual giving notice should give it within fifteen days, is one to which, as an individual, lie had no objection. But in the Committee, he had felt that there would be very great objections to it in practice.—( Hear, hear, hear.) He trusted, however, that experience would prove his predic tions to he without foundation. But it did appear to him, that without some corresponding arrangement, they were se curing the failure of the whole plan by adopting that pi °posi tion. The fifteen days would in general embrace tour Notice Days ; for instance, if a notice were given on Friday, the Member giving that notice would have his election of the Tuesdays and Fridays in the two following weeks. Supposing, then, that there be a great ambition for legislation, and a great desire amongst Hon. Members for distinction, as the introducers of new laws—( Hear, and a laugh)—and, indeed, it is on the supposition that such an ambition prevails that the proposed regulations are founded— the days on which they can bring forward their motions were limited to four, from the day of their notice. Thus, it would happen that a great number of notices would be given upon one night. How was it to be decided to which the precedence should be given? Every gentleman would consider his own motion the most important, and how was the question of importance to be settled ?—( Hear, hear, hear.) Who was to determine what Gentleman was to have priority of (riving notice? It would be invidious to put that exception able power in the hands of the Speaker alone. Suppose the time for giving notice had arrived-20 Members stand up ; if it depended upon the Speaker alone, the Honourable Member who had the moat frivolous motions, if he had his pocket well filled with them, might occupy the whale of the four days. Ile thought they should establish some corre sponding regulations as to the order in which the notices should be taken. There should also be some corresponding regulations with respect to adjourned debates. Supposing a gentleman had a notice for Thursday, he thought he had secured that day, but there happened to be an adjourned debate on the Wednesday. What was he to do ?.—( Hear, hear, hear.) It no doubt was for the public convenience that when a debate was once begun it should be terminated without delay—(Hear)—the adjaurned debate was continued on the Motion Day, so that in fact the disappointed Member might well say that the House had made provision for break ing into the Motion Days, but none for remedying the evil. It was a question with him whether or not it would be ad visable that there should be a ballot for precedency ; but he feared that the proposition standing alone would give rise to very considerable difficulty. Unless some additional and cor responding arrangement were made it would, he feared, be impossible to insure equal justice to all parties. Colonel DAVIES did not think the objections of the Right Hon. Baronet of any great importance, and in his opinion there would belittle difficulty in adopting the regulation pro posed by the Noble Lord. Mr. DI VETT thought the f i t proposed would occasion a scramjile at the table among Members to put down their names. One of the greatest inconveniences under the old system, and which had frequently occasioned adjournment of the House, arose from Hon. Members getting up and making motions which were wholly irrelevant. After a few words from Sir E. SUGDEN, which were not heard in the Gallery, Lord STANLEY observed that it had been said that the reason the House had been counted out so often was attribut able to the Government, because they did not take care upon all occasions to keep a House. It was not his duty to support the acts of the Government, but he must say that he did not think it was their duty tookeep a House for every purpose. It was undoubtedly their duty to keep a House when the Government business was before it—( Hear, hear)— and he believed they had invariablf done so, for it was to be observed that it was upon Notice Days chiefly that the House had been counted out.—( Cheers.) Now, what was the reason of that? Why, because gentlemen brought for ward notices in which no human being had any interest.— ( Cheers.) On one occasion when the House was counted out, there were no less than two-and-twenty Notices on the paper ; and upon another there were as many as thirty five Notices.—( Hear.) Now, upon either of those occasions if the gentlemen who had given the notice had come down, they would have kept a House—(Cheers)—but in point of fact there was such a mass of rubbish placed on the Notice Paper that no human being had patience to listen to it.— ( Cheers.) He thought it would be a great waste of the exer tions of the Government, if they exerted themselves upon every occasion to keep a House. He concurred with the Right Hon. Member near ( Sir E. Sugden), that the proposition of the Noble Lord was but an:imperfect remedy for an acknowledged evil.—(Cheers.) He concurred with him that in cases of adjourned debate there was an easy remedy in the power of the House by keeping the Order-book cleared for the next fortnight; by the present system, however, the House would have no such power. If the public business took precedence of notices, then it would be easy for the House to say that Members who had been compelled to give way should be transferred to an open day.—( Loud cries of " Hear, hear.") He would recommend, however, his Noble Friend to alter the words of the motion, so as to enable gentlemen to give notice for the four or five notice days, instead of the first day for setting down notices. Ile approved generally of the resolutions of the Noble Lord, and would concur in their adoption, not as a remedy but as a palliative. Sir E. SUG DEN made some observations, which, from the low tone in which he spoke, we could not distinctly catch. We understood the Ilo.nourable Baronet to say that a great point would be the certainty of the notices coming on. Lord JOHN RUSSELL observed in reference to what had fallen from the Noble Lord opposite, that these re solutions were intended as a palliative and not as a remedy, and likewise with a view of calling the attention of the House to the subject. Mrs .HINDLEY said he wished to move an Amendment, that (as we understood) the orders of the Government should come on in the order they are put down. The SPEAKER was understood to observe that that course was taken during last session. Mr. lIINDLEY said be wished to move an amendment to this effect—That all Orders should come on in the order in which they are put down. Lord JO H N RUSSELL said that he could not consent, because it might have the effect of deferring altogether the Orders of the Government, and of stopping the business of the country. The Mutiny Bill for instance might be delayed, because there happened to be various subjects for discussion on the Orders before it. If the object of the Hon. Member was that the Government should fix the Orders of the Day in the order in which they would cone on, to that he had no objection. The resolutions that all Orders of the Day should take precedence of motions on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays, and also that on Orders no amendment should be moved but for the reading of other Orders fixed for the same day, except on Committees of Supply and of Ways and Means, were then put and agreed to. On the resolution being put that no Member should put a notice on the book more than fifteen days before the day on which it was to come on, Lord STANLEY made an observation which we did not catch. Lord J. RUSSELL said be thought it would be better to have the resolutions carried now. Mr. F. FRENCH said that ad the House was often counted out on Motion days, he hoped the Government would take some pains that Houses should be formed upon days upon which Government business was not to come on. Lord J. RUSSELL said he perfectly agreed in the im propriety of counting out a House ; but as to the Government taking care that a House should be formed, that was more than he could undertake ; and he must say that a notice could not he of very great interest if it did not command a sufficient attendance of Members.—(Loud cries of " Hear, hear.") Sir R. PEEL said, as we understood, that he thought it would be mere advisable to postpone the passing of this reso lution till die commencement of next week, because in that case the 15 days would comprise a larger number of Notice days than if commenced to. day.—( Hear. ) Mr. W A KLE Y said, the resolution ought to be postponed. Ile felt that the Government was taking from them a power which they had exercised with some degree of effect in the preceding Session. Suppose there were very gross abuses to complain of in the army and navy, and that they desired to bring them under the consideration of the House—they all knew that the Mutiny Act must be passed by a certain day, and if then notices of motionwei e pushed over,what would be the con sequence ? That the Mutiny Bill would be passed without these abuses undergoing discussion. The remedy they had at pre sent was to bring the subject on as an amendment to the Older of the Day for the first or second reading of the Bill . The system proposed was entirely subversive of the principles of the Constitution, by which they first discussed their griev ances, and then enacted the law. It was notorious that the Government could make a House whenever it pleased ; and it was equally notorious that Houses could not be made when there was no public business nor money to be voted away. Ile hoped the further consideration of these resolutions would be defer red till Tuesday or Thursday next, for a very few Members understood what their purport was. Mr. HINDLE Y thought the subject of very great import ance, and it ought to be adjourned. He thought the plan pro posed would most vitally interfere with the right of the people to petition, and he would suggest to the Noble Lord the pro . plLty of extending the period to thirty days, or p os t pon i ng the discussion to Tuesday next. Sir R. PEEL would suggest that the notice should not extend beyond four days, namely, the two Tuessios and two Thursdays immediately preceding. Mr, HUME suggested that Hon. Members should have till Monday to consider the resolutions, which were of much im portance, and had been brought f o rwa rd uNtri understanding to a riLdtoihrne, su r prise atagreed etni lion. Members. M r .SHA it W w h o o u p ld ed ha tl u ia p t on if the n o to rm t a h n a Y t proposition , notice o f motion should be given until Monday, Colonel SIBT 110 RP agreed with those with whom he did not often agree, the Radicals---(a laugh) —that they were taken by surprise upon a mug important motion respecting the business of the House. Last Session he had come down day after day in order to make a motion of much importance, but on every occasion lie had been thrown over by what lie could call nothing but a Ministerial trick. If the Hon. Member for ish, s t l ery 00 , 404 pp:lpr to dividv. the House, he would feel it his duty tome with him, Lord J. RUSSELL could not possibly suppose that any ' one could have been taken by sur p r i se on that occasion, be. cause he had given notice of his intention on Mond iy last. Ha had then given notice that he would being under the conside ration of the House the resolutions of the Committee of last year, and no Member who paid any attention to the subject could have been unaware of the matter.— ( Hear, hear.) lie had great objection to postpone the motion ; and, of course, could not do so without a full arrangement that no motion should be given before Monday. It ought to be remembered that it was in the power of the House at all times to bring on any discussion it pleased. Mr. II UME—At least the terms of the motion ought to be printed, and it. was not too much to expect that Members should have two day s to consider the proposition. Mr. C. W. W YNN made some observations which could not be heard in the gallery. Mr. HUME said, that as there were a number of new Members in the House who knew nothing of the resolu tions before the Chair, he thought that the consideration of the subject should be adjourned—( Cries of " Hear, hear") — in order to give them an opportunity of understanding their details. Ha would, therefore, move that the debate be ad journed to Tuesday next. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the House divided, when there appeared : For the adjournment 66 For Lord John Russell's motion 354 Majority for Lord John Russell's motion 288 On our return to the Gallery the SPEAKER was read ing the original resolution. MIME put a question to Lord John Russell, but nei ther the question or reply could be heard in the Gallery. Mr. HIN'D I, EY, who was heard with difficulty on account of the noise in the House, was understood to say, that he felt so much the importance of the Order that he would intrude himself upon the attention of the House. If the Orders should not be found to answer, the greatest inconvenience to individual Members and the country would follow.—(Hear, hear.) Hon. Members would be placed in an awkward situation if they were obliged to say to their constituents that they could not do the business which was required of them, because the forms and rules of the House interfered, and they were restricted to give notice of fifteen days. If thirty days were given, he would certainly not offer any further opposition.—( Hear, bear.) Mr. O'CONNELL thought the resolution was very ab suidly worded. It was that no Notices should be given, ex cept those already given. The SPEAKER having'read the resolution— . . . Mr. HINDLE Y moved - an amendment—That the time be thirty days, instead of fifteen days. The resolution was then put and carried. Sir E. WILMOT said if there was any difficulty as to no tices already given, he should be happy to withdraw two no tices, which he had given for February next. ELECTION PETITIONS. Lord JOHN RUSSELL then rose and said—l rise to move the adjournment of Election Petitions.--( Hear, hear, hear.) I have already, Sir, stated to the House that I should do this on grounds of convenience, so obvious that I shall not take up the time of the House, by tating them at any length. The first election petition is now fixed for the 12th of December; as early a day as it was possible to fix them. That day approaches very near to the Christmas holydays, a time when it will be difficult to collect Members of this House to attend to the election bal lots, there being no questions of interest then before the House, and Members placed now upon an Election Committee being compelled to remain in town during the whole of the holidays. For this reason I think it not expedient to consider these petitions before that time. I would propose that at the Christmas holidays the House should adjourn till the Ist of February. I would also propose that the consideration of the first election petition be adjourned until that day. I believe in point of form it will be necessary to take the sense of the House upon an adjournment for such a length of time. For some very particular reason it was possible that the House might object to such a long adjournment, and might adjourn for only a fortnight. In such a case he would propose that the consideration of the first election petition should be taken upon the first day of the Meeting of Parliament after such adjournment. He should therefore move that the consideration of the Roxburgh Peti tion be taken into consideration on the 16th day of January next. Sir R. PEEL did not intend to offer any precise objection to the course which the Noble Lord had intended to pursue, but to propose a course that should be adopted in conformity with what bad taken place formerly. The Noble Lord proposed to fix a day for considering election petitions, when it was clear that day could not be taken. The law required the Speaker should give notice to parties concerned in the elections when ever the days were fixed, and it would be the Speaker's duty in precise conformity to the law, to notify to the parties, as had hitherto been done, that on the 12th day of December, the petitions would be taken into consideration.—(Hear.) The 16th of January was now fixed, although it was clear they could not be heard on that day. That was making the affair little better than a mockery.--(Opposition cheers.) Might it not be better if the Noble Lord postponed to the 12th Decem ber, fixing the day on which the petitions were to be heard. By that time he would be able to make up his mind as to the precise day. Lord STANLEY, having put a question to the Noble Lord in the course of the evening in connection with this subject, rose to say that he had heard with some satisfaction one portion of the announcement made by the Noble Lord, namely, that it was his intention to proceed to the considera tion of the election petitions immediately after the re-assem bling of the House. Let the House recollect that they had a distinct promise on the part of the Secretary of State for the Home Department, that unless he could bring forward some strong grounds for deviating from the usual course, it was his intention to move an adjournment till an early day in . February, and th a t th e p e ti t i ons s h ou ld b e proceeded with on the first Tuesday or Thursday after the meeting of Parliament. lie did not object, if the Noble Lord thought fit to adopt that course, to the naming of the precise day being deferred, now that he had received that intimation from the Noble Lord which assured him that he would se cure the great object he had in view last night. But when the Noble Lord told them that he could not anticipate the House would sanction so long an adjournment as to the month of February, he surely overlooked the prece dents which occurred in 1812. Parliament met on the 24th of November in that year, and on the Ist of De cember this motion was made and carried—" Resolved, that this House will not enter on the trial of any election petitions previous to the Christmas recess." This was so far precisely the course of the Noble Lord; but did the House feel any difficulty at that time in fixing the day ? No such thing ; for the four petition s were fixed, two for the 9th of February, and two for the 11th of February. That, he begged it to be understood, was the earliest time after the Christmas recess that could be fixed, Parliament not meeting till Febru ary. Here, then, was a precedent f or th e N o bl e L or d as against the delicacy he felt in asking the 'House to adjourn for so long a period, at that very period to which he told them they should adjourn.--(Opposition cheers.) The Noble Lord said that he had no reason to suppose Parliament would not accede to his motion of adjournment ; neither had he ( Lord Stanley) ; and, that being the case, he did not see any diffi culty in naming the day. But the Noble Lord said he did not mean to name a day. Then let him not fix a nominal day ; let him rather postpone any arrangement, say till the 6th of December, and name a day then.—( Hear.) He was satisfied that the petitions should be proceeded with in the usual man ner immediately after the holidays. Lord JOHN RUSSELL, in reply to the Right Hon. Gentleman, said his object, in the first place, was to take care that the parties had the requisite notice ; and in the second place, he wished to avoid doing that which be thought he was not justified in doing, viz., fixing the period of the adjournment of the House. But as, in his opinion, there was no objection whatever to the course which the Right Hon. Baronet pro posed, he would be ready on some future day, say the 7th of December, to move the day on which the trial of the petitions should actually be proceeded with. With regard to what had fallen from the Noble Lord, he did not think that there were any of his observations of to-night—(Cheers) —that here contrary to what he had stated last night it answer to the Noble Lord. He could not say whether extraordinary cir cumstances would not induce him to deviate from the usual plan—( Cheers) ;—that was what he wished to communicate to the House, and the Noble Lord was mistaken if he supposed that what he had said to-night was in any way inconsistent with what he had stated yesterday. Mr. C. W. WYNN said, as the general disposition ap. peared to be that they should not proceed with the trial of the election petitions till after Christmas, he would not urge on the House the necessity for taking them earlier ; but at the same time he must enter his protest against the delay. Sir R. PEEL said, the debate he understood to be post poned then till the 7th of December. The object of his ris ing at present was to give notice that if, on the 7th of De cember, any doubt arose as to a day being fixed in February for the hearing of the petitions, he should bring forward a dis tinct motion, naming a day in February for that purpose. After a few words between Mr. 'l'. DUNCOMBE and the SPEAKER, as to the day on which the lists should be changed, the conversation ended. METROPOLIS POLICE-OFFICE ACT. On the motion of Mr. HAWES, a Select Committee was appointed to inquire into the provisions of 3 and 4 Wm. IV. c. 19 (Metropolis Police-offices Act), with a view to the further improvement of the same. Mr. BAINES obtained leave to bring in a Bill for the relief of persons elected to municipal offices, and entertain ing conscientious objections to subscribe the declaration re quired by the latter part of the 50th section of the Act for the regulation of Municipal Corporations in England and Wales. _ Mr. HARVEY moved for a return of all pensions granted under the provisions of the Acts of 57th George 111., c. 6, sth Geo. IV., c. 4, and sth William IV., c. 24, showing what pensions have been granted from the passing thereof, with date of each grant, and which of them are now in force ; also what further number of pensions might have been granted by virtue of the said statutes.—Ordered. Sir R. BATE SON moved for a copy of the order and circular letter of Colonel Sham Kennedy, dated the 7th of September last, relative to the employment of the police force in Irefand.—Ordered. TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. On the motion of Sir W. MOLE S WORTH, the Trans portation C(lninittee was re-appointed. The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at five minutes past Seven o'Clock. TRANQUILLITY OP IRELAND.—The Freeman's Journal( Dublin) contains a report of an important public meeting of the County of Kildare, held last Sunday at the inarket-squara of Kileullon. The county had been repre sented, on oath, to be in a condition of tumult and disturbance. Owing to these statements the public meeting alluded to, was FROM LAST NIGHT'S GA A WTEHLL, Nov. 14. The Lord Chancell Hl or has appointed Bernard a. l-1 , Manchester, in the coun ty o f L a ncaster, _e Extmordinai yin the High Court of Chancery. atr,t,lety)eGatileicasn,terf DECLARATIONS OF INSOLVENCY. JAMES LEAVY, innkeeper, Herne Bay. JAMES MILNER LAYMAN, surgeon, Sheffora, Bedfall. shire. BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED. BENJAMIN THOMAS, cowkeeper, Grove-street, 001 grove. BANKRUPTS. ' WigO rem JOHN WILLIAM ARNOLD PARSONS, haler, on . a street., Cavendish-square, Middlesex, to surrender, Golds . twelve, and Jan. b, at eleven, at the Court of Bankrup tc y*. mid, official as ignee ; Sarel, Berkeley-square. SO 18 Nov. JOHN MOORE, builder, Leather-lane, Holborn , Nov bbe ' t,to two, and Jan. 5, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. official assignee; I3adham and Downer, Verularn-building u" Inn. La at th- WILLIAM HADNUTT, carpenter, William-street, , th e marsh, Surrey, Dec. 7, at t we l ve , an d Jan. 5, at eleren.,enairig, Court of Bankruptcy. Green, official assignee ; Harpur, ton-cross. WILLIAM MALLET, warehouseman, Lawrenee.lane(,), o FLetr . side, Dec. 5, at elev e n, and J an . 5, a t t we lve, at the Court J '7 l O, ruptcy. Gibson, Basinghcll street, official assignee ; 1• /7 L J OHNo ROBERT CLARK, grocer, Carlton, Yorkshire, ; 8, at ten, as the Court House, Leeds, and Jan. 5, at t en, Court House, Wakefield. Keir, Barnsley ; Butterfield, Gray In n ' Landon. 15, FRANCIS SYMONDS, m ill er , Bild es t on e, Suffolk, D ee o T , T e at three, anti Jan. 5, at twelve, at the Crown and Anchor „l ow Ipswich. Marriott, Stowmarket, Suffolk; Marriott, Red square, London. JOHN SLINGER, win e -m erc h an t, Li ver p o ol, Dec. 7 Iniajrnano; 5, at one, at the Cla ren d on R ooms , Li verpoo l. Chester, Star` London ; Hinde, Liverpool. CHARLES JOAD MARRIOTT, grocer , Leamington - P ri r, Dec. 13 and J a n uar y 5, a t We've, at the Lansdowne Hote l, F,d mington-priors. B u tt er fi e ld, -G ray ' s I nn-square, L o ndon; wards and Venour, Leainington-priors. bridge' WILLIAM WONFOR, in n k ee p er , Ch es t er t on , Con t .. - ; ,ke. shire, Pee. 1 a n d J an . 5, at t en, at t h e Ki ng ' s Head, Canw-T° Foster, jun., Cambridge ; Foster, Serjeant's Inn, London. -, DAVID JOHNSON, groc er , Birmingham, c , 9 and Janf ex ,,, at eleven, at the Union Inn, Union-street, Birmingham. ander, Gem, and Pooley, Lincoln's Inn- fi elds, London;' Waterloo-street, Birmin gham. 13 EDWARD CLARKE, b u ild er , Leamington Priors, Dee;„„.. and 14, and Jan. 5, at one , a t th e Lansdowne Hotel, Leaminkoie priors. 13urfoot, King's Be nc h- wa lk , T emple, L on d o n ; and Haynes, Leamington-Triors. DIVIDENDS: At the Court of Bankruptcy, Basinghall-street. Tice , W. Devey, co a l merchant, Holland -street, Christchurch , st 15, at twelve-E. Coker hardvrareman, Wood-street, Dec . 2 0 - 2 ' at one-S. Brady, groc er , Kingston-up on -Th ames , Surrey, Dec. 12 • -R. Knowle s , ware h ouseman, T rump -street, Dee 26, at °n e-- • • re 1311 Wi Former, brewer, H a sti ngs , D ec. 15 , at twelve-W. gren,,,:ne..... cuit baker, Narr ow - s t ree t, Limehouse, Dec. 15, at half - Pa i 'T R. 11. Staffel, drug g i s t, St roo d, K ent, D ec. 16, at e l e ven---14 3 , Fisher, chinaman, R egen t- s t reet, D ec. 16, at twe l ve -W. sham, broker, Angel-court, Throgmorton-street, Dec. 15, it n '"" • In the Country. J a n . 9, W. T. Jesse, ti c k manu f acturer, B ourton, D orsets hi r e, at eleven, at the George Inn, Frome, Somersetshire-W• pianoforte manuf ac t urer , L ee d s , D ec. 18, at eleven, a t the Cou t House, Leeds-R. F e lth am , o il merc h ant, Bat h , D ec . 18' u s .. 11, at the Castl e an d B a ll H o t e l, B at h - E . Ha i nswort h, c l o th Dan facturer, Leed s , F e b. 14, a t e l even, at t h e C ourt H ouse , Leeds . Kenworthy and Co., cotton manufacturers, Saddleworth , I nr shire, Dec. 19, at ten, at the Commi ss i oners ' R ooms , Manch es ter -J. It. Evans, li nen draper, Carmarthen, Dec. 22, at twell:d the Commissioner s ' Rooms, Manchester-W. Bentley, se n ' t he W. Bentley, jun., merchants, Liverpool, Dec. 19, at twelve, st op Clarendon Rooms, Liverpool--W. Contley, sen., and W. Be n n jun., merchants, Gl asgow , D ec . 19, at twelve, at the Claret? e n Rooms, Liverpool-W. C a tt ara l, merc h ant, Liverpool, Dec. 21, at one, at the Clare n d on R ooms , Liverpool-R. Oakes, plumber , verpool, Dec. 20, at th ree , a t th e Cl aren d on R ooms, LivarPnel..„, A. F. O'Neil and Co., merchants, Liverpool, Dee. 20, at one; st the Clarendon Ro oms , Li verpoo l - T . G regsou, cotton inann'3.-s -tuna, Burnley, L ancas hi re , D ec - 22 , at e l even, at t h e Comm sioners' Rooms, Manchester-J Fisher, calico printer, Manch ester ' Dee. 22, at three, at the Commissioners' Rooms, Manchester. CERTIFICATES, DEC. 15. S. Savaker, linen draper, Great Ealing, Middlesex--.• T r Breeds and C. Barfield, sent , Fenning's Wharf, T oo ley.streete - li Greenhill, tea dealer, Philp o t-l ane , Ci ty- C . Sanderson, he.. keeper, Princes-street, Hanover-square -W. H. Sugden, ,li ll 7 draper, Leeds-J. Griffiths, victualler, Swansea, Glamerganshi r '; R. and J. P. Robson, builders, Newcastle-upon-Tyne-E. A l e ; clair, common bre w er, Monkseaton, Northumberland-W. cabinet maker, Ne w c as tl e . under-Lyme, Staffordshire-T• A'":, lead merchant, L awrence Pountney City-P. Fish, boot ra '" . nufacturer, Lisle-street, Leicester-square. PARTNERSHIPS DISSOLVED. G. Wilford and C. Wighton, licensed victuallers, Saffron-bi lk :, R. Jackson and C. Latham, brewers, Greenwich-C. Wardrna and J. Roberts, stonemasons, Stanningley, Yorkshire-11. Crossiel and F. Watkins, curriers, Deptforal-J. and H. Slater, engi neer* Bolton-le-Moors-G. H atton an d H. Hemming, linendrapert Bidford, Warwick s hi re -B. Shi r l ey an d H . Banks, millers, ShleNr: field-W. Williams and T. Taylor, stay makers, East Retford- - Potts and Co., engravers, S a lford--J. Bottomley and J. Dy son, 0 , masons, Rastrick-S. T. Gilb er t an d D . N. Brough, linendraPe t Exeter-M. Jones and N. Wrench, grocers, Great Coram-str ee t -C. and G. Bar nes , grocers, Stradbrook, Su ff olk-T. itobe! and G. W. Skeen, mahogany brokers, Jeffery's-s quar e-J. ing and S. Waters, carriers, Leicester-J. Page and E. J. . I° 9' newsmen-J. Mills and G. Robertson, ship chandlers, Liverpoo l J. B. Clarke anti Co., Bristol (so far as regards W. E. and A• Acraman-T. Che w an d W. V or l ey, li verymen, Little Moortiel t ds -N. Hinchliff an d C o ., papers t a i ners, Ch elsea (so far as lega r G. Cooke. ) • PRICE OF SUGAR. The average price of Muscovado Sugar, from the returns 3111 Ir in the week e nding th e 21 s t o f N ov ., 1 8 37 , i s 41s. lid. per ( 3 °: t exclusive of the Duties of Cu s t oms pa id or paya bl e on t h e Impo r ts tion thereof into Great Britain. TIIE FALL OF THE LEAF.-44 This phellollle' non, so commonly observed and commented upon at this sea' son of the year, but s e ld om suggests any other train of ig, e , than the ordinary one o f it s resem bl ance to t h e d ec li ne o f 1111 P It seems not to be gener a lly un d erstoo d t h at t h e h uma n beilig is subject to the same laws as those which govern the vegeta ble creation in th e F a ll o f th e Leaf." The present is f °11 . 6 , 11 0 from experience and accurate observation to be the see% when weak hai r mos t ra pidl y f a ll s o ff , an d h a i r of stron g riant growth becomes relaxed—th ese ev il s , t h oug h 10ng 102 .°,,; to the medical w o rld were y e t w i t h out a reme d y t ill t h e disc very of the Balm of Columbia by Oldridge—the introduc tl °, of which, as a p ower f u l s t rengt h ener an d preserver o f the ha l o " has created an mra in the ann a l s o f reme di a l agents , and fr° f its unfailing effects in cases of baldness, has stamped it as onef d the most import an t mo d ern di scover i es. Th e B ALM i f contain `_ in Bottles, of whi c h th e sma ll est s i ze ( pr i ce 3s. 6d. ), stren otbee s : and fixes weak hai r ; —th e next i n s i ze ( pr i ce 65. ) P rif:W e b , hair on the partially bald, and creates whiskers, &c. ; an d t a d largest (price 1 is.) c ompl e t e ly restores t h e h a i r o f the ae both to the middl e -aged and y oung . N o ot h er pr i ce s are e„, ts, nuine : and it is requ e st e d, th a t to guard against counter iel the Public will apply to none but respectable venders, ° r the Office, No. 1, WELLINGTON-STRERT, STRAND, L O NDON' 0 Mrs. Fraser, whose ex t raor di nary sufferings 301° t the savages at Torres Straits, excited so deep an interee t i, London, has been r e sidi ng i n G reenoc k for a . short time b e i c s She and her new husband, Captain Grees, left that place "'i t week, for the purpose of visiting her children in Orke e Y: n o./, seems that the goo d peop l e o f L on d on contr ib ute d which has been judiciously deposited under proper security, behoof of Captain Fraser's children. VIENNA, N ov . 14.—Ib ra hi m S ar i m Eff en di, tbe e new Turkish A m b assa d or to t h e E ngl i sh Court, arr ived be r o f three days ago, and had on the following day an audienceo Prince Metternich, who gives to-day a grand dinner I' we honour, to which all the Foreign Ministers are invited. , bo have just received the melancholy news of the death of ' e young Archduke Alexander, the second son of the Arcli,_ic Palatine, and the eldest by his third wife, Maria Dorot.cliecb Princess of Wurtemberg. The family of the Archduke , "'I th o has lately experienced very severe trials, is filled w ith c e, deepest affli c ti on b y t h e loss of this amiable young Pr in n d who was in p ar ti cu l ar th e o bj ect o f t h e ten d eres t affection sa care of his august mother, whose grief is so violent as to eau apprehensions for her health. 44 $' The NEW FLAT GOLD WATC- 7 0 The price in gold cases, with vertical movement ......... Ditto, with well-finlshed horizontal movement, in double bottomed engine -turned cases, jewelled in four holes, g 0 with silver dial T. COX SAVORY, W or ki ng ........ 47' Cornhill, London. N.B. Ili Horizontal Construction is particularly resernsielide't for its superior accuracy. B I R Til S. This morning, in New Broad- street, the lady of George P arburl? Esq., of a daughter. the on the 22d inst , at Linton Springs, Yorkshire, the lady of Hon. Lieutenant- * Colone.l Douglas, of a son. On the 21st inst , Mrs Squibb, of Orchard-street, Portman' square . of a son. * On the I s t u l t., on b oard the " Sir L i one l Smith," the li a l °f Captain Laurel, 64th Foot, of a son. MA RR lED. „„,, On the 21st inst., at St. James's, Clerkenwell, by the 1 1 13 - : 4 11- t ßoys, Lieut. Charles Parbur •• I.N to Maria L 011153, 0 01 Y ter of E. Nyeleh . , Esq ,of Cu3niming.:place, Pentonville. lief. On the 21st inst. at St. George's, Hanover-square, to , iv ing Richard Cattermole , to Ellen Hamilton, eldest su . r sto t. daughter of the late Win. B.D. flat - 161ton, Esq., of Upper " "f el dre O w n s, t i l u le n. 2 , lst inst. at St. Mary's, Battersea Mr. Sain f u lyir. J . of Hertford, to Maria Anne, only rho' Thornton, of Nine Elms, Surrey. Wm. p On the 21st inst., at St. George's, Iranover-squa re u , hter Of • Lipson, Esq., of Sutton Park, to Lucretia' Chapman, da_g Surrey Whittington, Esq., of Whitmore House, near Ripley , :laughter o U p per B el ' On the 20th imt., aged 68, Mr. John Clarke, of grave-st reet, Pimlico. t ° f . On the 19111 inst. aged 22, Mary Louisa, second claugh,e,r_ jt ,ho Temple, Esq., and ' Caroline Ann, daughter of the late Du Hollywood, Bart., and Lady Frances llonywood. , G i an ywer l4 On the 20th inst., aged 5• , J 1 Ma locks, Esq" °` Denbighshire. -, "ll Mac E r skin c e( no tWel On the 19th inst., aged 21, the Hon. Hampden On the 21st inst., aged 71 Thomas i3abington, Esq.' /gr. 0. Temple, Leicester s hi re , hter °` On the 221 inst., at Croydon, Anne, eldes t daug ifor*: Abud, of Camden •stree ,- , awed 17 (.)n the 14th inst., at Bath,' - Mrs ' . Hayes, , hate Hayes, Esq. 14all, yor n.. ° f A rl' tgi ern° r°f j3° On the 22,1 inst., Harry Verelst, Esq., shire, eldest son of Harry Verelst, Esq., formerly —°v gal, aped 61 ' ' f I" . f, N , 01 London: .1‘ • - ----irso yO O. ~,,, cots Printed and Published by JklUlli-,c, ri d, iti 10 112, Strand, at Th e Sun Office, 110. IP2r '7., Q t ,, a relict of th e of Middlesex.—Saturday, November, 25, Ic''' .