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difficulty in point of interpretation; for whereas in former time iticourt of justice was the medium of deciding their rottning whenever a cause arose, at present the Cele nia -office—which in its nature was a secret tribunal_ Was tae sole interpreter. And it was no answer to the okieition that existed against the practice that the liable Earl lately at the head of the Colonial-office, on his owe part, as well as on that of his predecessors, pleaded the plenitude of liberality exercised by them in regard to the power of disallowance, stating that. there was not more than 2/ per cent. on all colonial Bills to which it Was applied. In respect to the next point—the election of officers—he (Lord Lyttelton) believed the appoint tient of a governor by the Crown was as good as the appointment of a governor by election; but he was of opinion that the primary evil was the temporary nature of the office. It was understood the governor of a colony was to be removed at the end of five, six, or seven years; and this prevented all possibility of iden tification with the interests of the colonists. The next Point—via , self-defence, was, in the charter of Mary land, entirely entrusted to the settlers; who had power given them to make war, by sea and by land, on all enemies whatsoever that came against the colony; and there was no reservation of the duty of self-support in that respect. The normal state of the ancient colonies of the country was, therefore, to support themselves, to defend themselves, and to boar their own costs: the normal state of our modern colonies was quite the reverse. That system was in spirit nearly identical With the prayer of the petition presented by a Noble Bake (Argyll) on a previous evening, a prayer which it had been said, was inconsistent with the existence of a colonial empire. It was, however, in operation for More than a century when the North American colonies Were the pride and glory of England, and when Eng land possessed a colonial empire in the best sense of the word. The result was, that the early colonists Were masculine, generous, and self-relying men; who asked no assistance from the mother country, but who save it. The question in his mind was not as to the material wealth of a colony, but as to the character of the men with whom this country was peopling the World. The spirit of these colonists was not that of the colonists at the frontiers on the Cape of Good Hope,who Set forth their own unwarlike dispositions as inapplicable for self-defence. Year after year they had to contend zor life with savages far more daring and far more dan gerous than the Kafir tribes; and that spirit it was Which caused them to rise and shako off the yoke °f misrule which had been laid upon them °Y the unjust domination of the mother country. .is regarded loyalty, too, these colonies were far be fore the modern colonies; for whereas Franklin never even thought of separation until long after Lord Gran vill's folly and oppression had driven the American colonists to revolt, Canada and Australia talk of sepa !stion upon the recurrence of every paltry grievance. 41 1 conclusion, he (Lord Lyttleton) would only add on t he general subject, that the Bill was a return in some sort to the ancient system of colonisation, and that he hoped before long that system would be fully revived. ,t'te regarded the details of the Bill they were to be looked at under two aspects. The first referred to the Provincial governments; the second to the general go vernment. It was good with respect to the control of l and sales by the colonists; also with respect to he constitution of the general Legislature, because got rid of the intermixture in the same Clamber of the elective members and nominees the Crown. Many expressed their admira tion, of the Constitution of the United States. For his own part ho did not wish, in any consti tution, for our colonies to imitate the United States since the period of the revolution. What he would fol low as a model was the constitution of those states when t hey were colonies of this empire. However, with re epeet to the Bill, taking it altogether, her Majesty's Go- Zernment had introduced a much better measure than ‘ 4 , 0 thought they had ever intended. He remembered :tee well-deserved sneer of the Noble Lord at the head of he Government, expressed at the opening of the pre. lent session, at the amount of knowledge possessed and of the interest felt in their Lordships' House about the affairs of New Zealand. Nevertheless, he thought that there was no one of their Lordship who would believe that this Bill had been unwisely introduced, or that the c onsideration it had met with had been unwisely be stowed; and for himself, he should be well content that e Bill should pass without any material alteration in it. Lord WODELIOUSE said that all who had paid any Wendell to the frame work of the Bill would readily a cknowledge that, in a theoretical point of view, there Were some objections to be made to it—that in fact they WOald not find in it a perfect model of a constitution. here appeared to be a total absence of any leading trinciple m it, and it might be plausibly objected to that gave a disproportionate amount of government for so mall a community—a government consisting AS it did .., k4 six provincial legislatures, a general legislative raembly, comprising two houses, a governor in chief, and six provincial governors—and all this for a popula 'On not numbering more than 20,000 Europeans alto gether. With respect to the analogy which had been s ought to be established between the New Zealand ‘lonies, ho did not think it could hold; the cir etajastances of each were so different, and in no one were they more different than in the compara tively easy means of communication between the di fferent parts of the colony which now existed, and Which afforded facilities for carrying out a central government. Neither did he think that the I tanaple of the United States of the present day was Tne United States territory was so large at it would be impossible to have free institutions in li t ? except in a federal form. New Zealand was in a po :tion comparatively isolated, and the powers given i i `etler this Bill, undoubtedly large as they were, would, had no doubt, be readily put into operation. The People of the neighbouring Australian colonies, how ever, could not but strongly feel the contrast which their Z ) liatitution presented to that given by this Bill to New Ze aland, conferring as the latter did, the management of thatthe waste lands upon the colonists themselves, whilst Z management in the case of the Australian colonies W as made a matter of reservation for the Imperial Go vernment at home. The effect of the contrast would tCobably be to abandon the management of the waste lids to the colonists in the case of Australia also. An other important concession made to the colonists in this v ul was on the subject of the veto of the Imperial Go vernment and the power of disallowance of Bills for two ,e ars by the governor. These were wise concessions, Itld made at the proper time. We had now colonies s peedily growing up to manhood, and if we treated them L a geuerous and liberal spirit, abandoning all vexatious re adily in their purely local affairs, they would Merest submit to general control in matters of Imperial kerest to the Imperial Government in return for the Protection afforded to them, bound as they are to the o .,! ) ther country by community of language, of commer ' l interests, and of political institutions. 1 1 ,1:he Duke of NEWCASTLE regretted that the Bill W as come before them at a period of the session when it 1 . 4 ! la vain to expect to secure a discussion on either the that d reading, or in the Committee, notwithstanding the measure was one of the utmost importance, and * S t in it the Government had made concessions which W ere so large that he doubted whether the Government k td really intended to confer them. For his own part ,?pertainly approved of the Bill, especially of the pro- O tl ton which admitted of the colonists altering the Con tution, should it appear to require it; for it was im- Bible for the Government here at home to legislate i sa tisfactorily upon all the various and conflicting points % Deo which even the colonists themselves would find ,great difficulty in coming to a unanimous de - CS. Three different schemes of government had i`uri suggested for the colony—viz., a ce n t r a l go e,,ttlinent a sub-division of the colony into t w o ' 4- laces—and thirdly, the plan now before the teUee, giving a separate local legislature to each o f l, six separate provinces, controlled by a central 4 eel Blature, which was composed of the elements of Six. With respect to the first of these, he held it im- Zesible to establish a central government, when, in 4 1ity, there was no natural centre in the country. Pr ovinces; was equal objection to the subdivision into two (l and, with respect to the third scheme, he con ga..ciered it by far the best. As to the objection that the eunt of population was not sufficient to warrant so ~ ZlAch machinery of government as this Bill contained, he Po pulation it by no means an insuperable objection: the ;` ) i Inflation would rapidly increase, and a large population ss by no means an essential element in a local govern -gent. Ile was only afraid that the concurrent power of : 4 4 e local and the central legislatures would not act bar eniously, and that there was some ground for the ap tehension that great confusion would result from it. It le gislature; a wise proceeding to exclude nominees from the Zgieh i t ure; they formed a most jarring element in the v ,.....Alatitution of the assemblies in other colonies; and it j" equally prudent to concede the appointment of the 11):Perintendents by election in the colonies. It would far easier for the colonies to obtain in that way ~- ' l C ore suitable man for the of fi ce than the Government, , )7 1 the opinion of Governo r Gre y confirmed that view. 2 now came to a part o f the Bill to which he could not o ffer the same weed of app robation that he gave to other " u nions of it—he alluded to the . principle which it Opted with regard . to the constitution of the Upper A ss of the Legislature, and in which respect there B a complete departure from the Bill upon which the Leasure was said to be found ed, for the Bill of Earl ey, he believed, adopted the elective principle. The etilt of the measure seemed, to him (the Duke of New , Lie) to bo a want of unity of principle; and he could alt she nominee help thinking that the same grounds for abandoning nominee system in the representative Chamber 4mould have induced the Government to abandon that tr l etern in the case of the Upper Chamber. Bill would place the Colonial Secretary 1 .Angatihne, taition of an arbitrator, whose office it would 0, to act between the Governor and nominee Chain:, de and the representative body. Moreover, he was onion that they would never get a body of nominees h Pay that attention to the work which was req uired h ti ril a legislative assembly. This system was intended, Presumed, to bear some sort of resemblance to im p,rial institutions ; but if it were so, it appeared to him t hat the Government were pursuing the shadow and not te substance of a Conservative po lic y . He thou g ht tiY were grasping at a notion of so methin g Conserve t'e in a nominee house of asse mbl y —something of an e i,es t T 4 Perial character—whilst they were losin g the sub stance of a really Conservative measure namely, iltltieg this body elective, and thereby introducing men ti" had an i n t e rest in the colony , and in the preserve le tt of all that concerned it , which nominee members jt 4 otin had, and, he believed, in fac t never c o ul d po ssess. e m W as absurd to suppose that a nominee chamber in a like New Zealand could have any similarity to t c ; - ` "louse of Lords. There was no element in the colony e c orrespond with such an in stitution, and thou g h iLthaPs, in theory, at first sigh t, a pp ointments b y d Crown or the representenve of the C rown Obt look rather more like a House of Lords than a elected by the people, yet if it were practically 1e 0 a ,„ 41 , ined, the appearance would fade away, and it IV" at once be seen what a shadow and an unreality " whole thing was. Further, if the nominee chamber T II E were regarded merely as a power which gave to this country a check upon the representative chember, then ho centanded that any such holy was superfluous. The Governor appointed by the Crown had the power of veto on the acts of the Logisleeive Assembly, it was, there fore, quite unnecessary to create another power of veto in a body of nominees. He (,he Duke of Newcastle) was not an advocate for giving the right of election cf members for the Upper Chamber to the same body of persons who elected the House of Representatives; but he thought a higher electoral qualification might be adopted, that the el, cted might enjoy a longer tenure of office, and that the area of representation might be en larged. With regard to that portion of the Bill which related to the land sales and the New Zealand Company, he recommended that the clauses should be postponed until the charges which had been brought against the company had been fully examined and reported upon. After having given to the matter the best consideration in his power, he could not help thinking that it would be wise, just, and politic, and that it would lead even tually to a more satisfactory settlement of the question , that the clauses relating to the New Zeeland Company should be altogether omitted from the Bill. Earl GREY sail that he thought it advisable to d e al in the first instance with that subject to which the Noble Duke had di rec t e d t h e i r attention towards the conclusion of his address, namely, the clauses ia the Bill which referred to the claims of the New Zealand Company. He certainly regretted to think that it should be necessary to lay on that rising celoey a charge such as that which those clauses would impose. But it ap• pear d to him that that was a necessity arising out of the obligation to do justice to those without whose efforts and sacrifices there would be no colony at ail in New Zealand. Many persons were in the habit of finding great fault with the Now Zealand Company; and he had certainly never been one ef their determined supporters. But at the same time he was bound to say that, in his opinion, the cry which was at present raised against them was not less unjust than the attempt which had formerly been made to support them had been unwise and uncalled for. The high character of the gentlemen who presided over the company certainly offered a reason able ground for supposing teat they had, at all events, acted in an honourable manner; and there was this further ground for that belief, that they had been heavy losers by their connexion with the undertaking. Large sums had been sunk by them, for the repayment of which they had only the distant prospect held out to them by the arrangement set forth in the present Bill. For his part, the great fault which he found with them was that they had shown themselves somewhat deficient in worldly wisdom and prudence, in adopting too easily the plausible schemes of a very clever projector—a pro jector whose talents he (Earl Grey) should be the last man to deny, but whose cleverness was not accompanied by other qualities quite as necessary to make him a safe or a trustworthy guide. Ho thought, too, that the di rectors of the company had failed to evince any high de gree ofjudgment in conducting the great enterprise in which they had somewhat rarhiy embarked. But perhaps that was a necessary consequence ot the very con stitution of a hoard of directors. He believed that such a board was never likely to be capable of a consistent and sound management of the affairs of a great com pany, unless some one individual took a complete lead of the rest of the body, and virtually became its manager. That the Nev Zealand Company had not succeeded in a pecuniary point of view was not, in his opinion, much to be wondered at. The difficulties in the way of founding. a distant colony were so great that he believed under takings of the kind could never be a source of profit to their original projectors. He might state, for the pur pose of illustrating those difficulties, that the Canterbury Association had, as he had heard, gone through the common lot, and had declared itself insolvent within the last few days. Ho believed that the correct principle for Parliament and the Government to adopt in such cases was to avoid, as far as possible, any interference with the projectors beyond what was required for guard ing the country from the danger of future expense and future trouble, and for preventing those public calamities which might take place it the Government were to exercise no control on those occasions. Perhaps his Noble Friend near him (Lord Ly ttelton) would allow him to illustrate the principle which he thought ought to be adopted in those matters, by stating the course which he had pursued at the period of the foun dation of the Canterbury Association, of which his Noble Friend was a most distinguished member. That was a plan for the formation of a great Church colony in a part of New Zealand which had then been unoccu pied. He had been told that the projectors had had a large sum of money ready, and that they had been pre pared to undertake their scheme at their own risk with the assistance of the New Zealand Company. He had ventured to express very strongly to the projectors his opinion that they would be greatly disappointed in their expectations; and that with the large price which they asked for land they would find it impossible to afford to purchasers the advautages which they promised. But he had also told them that if nothing were done which could in any way delude the public as to the real state of the case, and if certain regu lations were adopted for the purpose ot insuring the people of this country and of the colony against claims which might otherwise arise against them, he could see no objection to the scheme being under taken at their own risk. He had thought at the time, and he still retained the opinion, that whatever might be the disappointment to the original proprietors, a colony would be established which would in the end become a great and flourishing community. The association had been formed, and the results had been precisely such as he had anticipated. In his opinion it was no part of tho duty of the Government or of Parliament to find pru dence for private individuals, and to prevent them from embarking in measures which, as far as they were con cerned, might not lead to satisfactory results. In the case of the Canterbury Association no claim was likely to arise against the public, and for this reason, that the relations between the association and the Government had been clearly defined from the commencement. But, unfortunately, in dealing with the New Zealand Company, the same course had not been adopted. They had claims against the public arising out of the fact, that in the earliest stage of their existence their measures had been thwarted partly by the Government at home, and still more by the local authorities in the colony, and that by that means their chances of success had been diminished. That was the conclusion at which the Committee of the House of Commons, which had inquired into the subject in the year 1844, had arrived; and that Committee had further decided that that circumstance gave the company a claim against the Government and Parliament which were bound to place them in as good a situation as that which they would have held if no such ground of com plaint had existed. The Noble Earl opposite (the Earl of Derby) had himself felt that claim so strongly that immediately before his retirement from the Colonial office he had made arrangements for assisting the com pany by means of a loan. When he (Earl Grey) had been appointed to the direction of the same office, ho had found that what bad been done for the company had been very far indeed from compensating them for the injury they had sustained in consequence of previous measures adopted towards them, and more especially in consequence of the great delay in giving them possession of their land. He had thought that something further should be done in order to enable them to try fairly the scheme for which they had been originally incorporated. The subject had, accordingly, been placed in the hands of the late lamented Mr. Charles Buller, who had di rected great attention to the question, and had on va rious occasions shown great ability in discussing it; and, after considerable inquiry, Mr. Buller had devised an arrangement which had ultimately been approved of by him (Earl Grey) and by his colleagues in the Go vernment. The great points on which he had espe cially taken precautions against future disputes and inconvenience were, first, that the pecuniary assist ance to be given to the company was not to exceed a certain amount, and next, that that was to be a con clusive measure—that it was to be a discharge in full of all possible claims on the part of the company. The Bill of 1847 had been prepared in order to carry out that arrangement, and had ultimately received the assent of Parliament. In working out the arrangement it had al ways appeared to him that there had been one clear rule for him to follow—namely, to remember that the great object of the measure was to enable the company to try fairly whether the plan of a great colonising company could succeed. He had thought that it had not been the duty of the Government to have decided whether the measures of the company had been prudent or not, be cause the essence of the scheme had been that the com pany should receive a large discretion. At the end of the period which had been named by the company them selves for fairly trying the experiment they had found that, notwithstanding the largo pecuniary assistance they had received, they could no longer have gone on; and then they resigned their functions, and had, under the terms of the Act, made certain claims upon the Go vernment, which were ultimately to be paid out of the land revenues of New Zealand. He certainly felt sur prised to hear the Noble Duke declare that the company had no moral claims upon the Government; and he (Earl Grey) would defy any man to inquire into the facts of the case and come to the conclusion that the claims of the company could be honestly repudiated. He rested those claims on the simple wording of the Act of Parliament as it already stood. That Act, in his opi nion, supposed the ultimate payment of the debt; and if it were to be paid, it was the interest both of the com pany and of the colony that it should be paid as speedily as possible by the best administration of the land revenue. He entirely concurred with the Noble Duke (Newcastle) that an inquiry into this subject was imperatively neces sary, and that in another Parliament a searching inves tigation before a Committee of the House ought to take place. So far as he was concerned, he wished that every letter and document, public or private, shoulcidee pro duced and carefully examined, and that the result should be fairly reported upon by an impartial Committee. H e w as persuaded that if that was done, although he was far from hens prepared to defend every act and proceeding of om fl pa t ny upo t n her t e he wO h u o l n d ou b r e bfroupnrdobnitoy wahcom its affairs were carried on. of the gentlemen s to take place, it would be worse As an inquiry wa . thing whatever n to by re charges s opinion that a withlead bean oo n regard broughtto the groundlessness, o than useless in him to f House could fully understand t re ve cha a impossible that the against the company elsewhere. It would be also the case in all its comp lications without a lengthened reference to the voluminous papers which had been laid before Parliament. But there were two main points put forward as charges aga r i s n t, that of applying companyst to which he would briefly allude —first, the public money entrusted to the m to purposes not originally in- tended; and second, a s to certain opinions that had been se nt out to the colony. With regard to the first of these he could say, charges, for the two gentlemen who were conne cted with the a dministration of the funds as —com missioners, a nd without whose p ermission no money could be applied one of them had become involved in some disputes with the c om p an y , w hich in the end led to his removal; he was succeeded by a gentleman in whose judgment he belt eaual confidence, while he honour and S U N, LON DON, felt still more for his temper and discretion. It was only in a ease where the money was likely to be applied i n a menner contrary to the intentions of Parliament that he (Earl Grey) advised their intorfereuce. The❑ with regard to the opinions he would- only make one &tort observation. In 1849 papers were laid before ' Parliament, and given to the world, and sent out to the colony, in which was the fact that an opinion of counsel unfavourable to the company had been pronounced; but, at the same tine, he had himself explicitly stated his opinion to be in favour of the com pany. These opinions were known in the colony three years previously. The whole question was whether the settlement between the company and the settlers was a fair and proper one. The fact was, that it was one most favourable to the settlers. The circumstance of that opinion having been given was known to all the world, and no attempt was made to disturb that settle meat. He could only express a hope that the inquiry would take place; but in the meantime it was their duty to adhere to their bargain, and let them have the advan tege. He thought that out of justice to the company the arrangement as suggested by her Majesty's Go vernment ought to be maintained. The settlers of New Zeelaud had no right to complain of that—they were to be charged with a quarter of the gross proceeds of the sale of the land towards the discharge of the com pany's debts. Now, what gave value to the land was the expenditure of capital by the Parliament and the company; end that being so, it was desirable that the New Zealand Company, who had received nothing for their largo expenditure for many years, shou'd have that amount from the land. The settlers could have no right to complain of that as being unjust; but he thought it was an error in the Bill not to state that the future liabilities which might arise under the Act of 1847 should be defrayed out of the NOW Zealand land revenue; they had certainly no right to come upon the British Treasury or the nation. Teat was the view he entertained while he held the Colonial seals, and it would be satisfactory if the Bill had contained a clause to that effect. With regard to the larger and more general question, the Noble Lord who spoke second in the debate entered fully into it, but he did not think his Noble Friend had read history very correctly. He did not think he could say that the old American colonies had complete control over the land and revenues of the coloeies, Lord LYTTELTON—By their charters. Earl GREY—That, of course, was a very different matter. He also stated that they had unrestricted trade with all the world, but this could not be established by the fact, as from the earliest date it was the policy of France, of England, and of every other country, to re strict the colonies exclusively to their own use and benefit. They were looked upon as a species of Crown land. It was further stated that they had an unlimited power of making war. Undoubtedly they made war upon the natives; but beyond that they had no wars of their own, and that was the only species of war they were likely to make. There were only three or four pro visions of the Bill to which he thought it right to offer eny objection. The first was, as to the change in the constitution of the provincial couacils. He believed that a great portion of the public business would devolve on these councils; but it was quite necessary also that there :should be general councils to meet special cases, and to meet occasionally. He had urged the came objec tion with regard to the Act relating to the Australian co lonies. It was, at the same time, satisfactory to find that the Government had given a general over ridinganthority to the general legislature. He thought, also, that great inconvenience would arise from that provision of the Bill which deprived the Crown of a veto upon the acts of the colonial legislature. He had always thought that the Crown ought to have this supreme authority; and it would he impossible beforehand to define what ccts they should he allowed to pass without any control, and what acts the Imperial Legislature might place its veto on. Teat would give rise to conflicts of authority and jurisdiction; and they were all aware that such really occurred in the United States. Without such a provi sion as he had referred to, ho feared that very serious inconvenience and embarrassment would result. On the other hand, he could not see how any practical inconve nience would result from granting this power to the Crown. It was said that two years would be an unne cessarily long time for disallowing colonial acts; but that, it appeared to him, would be an advantage. In the course of that period, experience had shown that amend ments were often made in Acts hastily passed before they were submitted for her Majesty's assent. He thought the making superintendents elective was a mistake, these offices being analogous to that of sheriffs in England, and therefore in some respects under the control of the Governor of the colony. They all knew that the foundation of the power of the Governor depended upon his privilege of suspending any act or appointment until it had received the sanction of the Crown. He came next to the constitution of the general legislature. By far the most defective part of our North American colonial legislatures was the elec tive councils.—(Llear.) At one time Legislative Coun cils were renewable at the pleasure of the Crown, but the act of 1791 made them elected for life. It was ab surd to call such councils a copy or imitation of our House of Lords; there was no similarity between the two legislatures. It was, however, at first intended by the act of 1791 to make those councils resemble the House of Lords by creating hereditary honours. It was not intended that they should be a small oligarchy, dependent on the will of the Crown ; but circumstances at the time were too strong for Mr. Pitt, and no heredi tary honours had been created. The Legislative Coun cils t hud become a mere body of nominees. In fact, Legislative Councils were universally regarded in Ceuta, as the great obstacle to good Government; and nothing so much tended to bring about that unhappy state of things which led to insurrection in Canada than these councils. The question then was, how had Legisla tive Councils worked? He was bound to say, according to his experience, they had not worked satisfactorily in North America. The reason why they had not worked satisfactorily was, because on many occasions those Councils had not had sufficient weight with the public, or as they ought to have possessed, in order to render them properly useful; and the consequence of that had been the necessity of making large additions to them, so that, to use the Noble Duke's expression, they had more than once been swamped. The present Bill, in its ori ginal shape, would have worked injuriously in this par ticular respect; for if a mistake had been made at the onset in the nomination, it would have been competent for a few individuals to have obstructed or defeated any beneficial or useful measure which the colonists and the Crown might have approved of and desired to pass into law. It would have then been necessary to have come a st g a a t i o n o t f thoPiganrlis w am a e s nt b , y a g nd iving the only way to meet such a to on Crown d t i h t ieatothose bodies as large discre tionary powers to make such additions might be considered requisite. He begged the Noble Earl, on account of tne imp ortance of the sub ject, to do him the favour to pey a little attention to his statements. The Earl of DERBY—I do assure the Noble Earl I am sorry to say I have heard every word he has ad dressed to the House during the last hour and three quarters.—(Laughter.) Earl GREY—Then the Noble Earl has the enviable quality of listening to a discourse and of carrying on an interesting conversation at the same time, without losing a word of either conversation or discourse.—(Laughter.) The NOBLE EARL resumed—lt was inconvenient to withdraw respectable men from the assembly in order that they might enter the Legislative Council. He considered it was better they s h ou ld sit stugly than be mixed, as that wou ld not add to their weight and authority. He would advert to another important point—the appropriation of the land fund. He would not repeat the opinion he had More than once ex pressed, that it was the duty of Parliament to lay down some rule as to the disposal of waste lands in some of lour more important colonies. But no such rule had been laid down in Canada, Nova Scotia, and, latterly, in the West India colonies. The subject had been entirely legislated upon by the colonial legislatures—the colonial legislatures bad passed Acts, and had taken the whole matter upon themselves. In the New Zealand Bill there appeared to be powers which permitted the local legislatures to legislate on the matter. He feared the system under the Bill would lead to jobbing and abuse. It appeared to him that the power would be better if given to individual provinces than to the general legislature, because one settlement might desire to make regulations and prices which an other settlement might object to. By delegating the l application e o g f e t n h e e e a m l o ney legislatured eri ved i f n r s o t m e a tdh of f s a t l o e t o h f waste local councils, he feared that much abuse would arise. He entirely concurred in the concluding observations of his Noble Friend behind him when he said, that this was a most important crisis in the affairs of our colonial empire, and that much would depend upon the course of legislation now pursued. Ile adopted phrase of his Noble Friend, that many of our colonies were " growing up to manhood," and that it was now necessary to carry out that scheme of policy which would have been proper even in an earlier stage of their social progress. But this policy ought to be carried out, not by separating from the old and established system hitherto pursued by this country—none of the constitutional powers hitherto possessed by the Crown ought to be abandoned—but the Government ought carefully to exercise the existing powers. It was with some degree of pride that he found the North American colonies in their present position of prosperity. In 1846 they were in a different condition, and they had to surmount difficulties of no ordinary na ture before they attained their present state. Until 1846 not one of these colonies enjoyed the system of govern ment now established, and at present working successfully and harmoniously. In Canada we had seen the two races of men divided, and with no general agreement as to the form of government under which they were to live, and that great and distinguished man expressed his greatest doubt as to whether the system would work in that colony. But in Nova Scotia, Now Brunswick, and Prince Edward's Island, the systems of local govern ment had been carried into complete and satisfactory operation. In Canada we bad now the aspect of a united people, French and English acting harmoniously together, and regarding the mother country with affec tion end esteem. So healthy was the feeling, that tho cry of annexation and the pressure of political discontent previously apparent had entirely disappeared, and the colony was making greater progress in population and wealth than any of the neighbouring states; and Mr. Tremenhere, in an interesting book recently published, took precisely this view of the subject. The Crown possessed all the legal power necessary for dealing with the colonies, and, as far as their welfare was concerned, it was only necessary that it should be exercised with judgment and discretion. Lord LYTTELTON thought it desirable to separate the Canterbury Association from the Canterbury Co lony.—(Hear, hear.) The Canterbury Association might have been involved in some difficulty, but as far as the colony was concerned he was prepared to contend, that in the same space of time no other settle- I went had attained so great a degree of prosperity. WEL)NES Y After a felw words in explanation from the Duke of NEWCASTLE, The Bill was read a second ti me. The County Rates Bill was read a second time. The Sunk Island Roads Bill, the Commons Enclosures Act Extension Bill, the Appointment of Overseers Bill, and the Hereditary Casual Revenues in the Colonies Bill, were severally passed through C omm i t t ee . Th© Poor-law Comtniesion Continuance (Ireland) Bill was read a third time and p asse d. Their Lordships then adjourned. PARLIAMENTAItY DIVISIONS• ----- (From the Votes and Proceeding s o -- f the House of Commons.) MONDAY, JUNE 21. POOR-LAW BOARD CONTINUANCE BILL, Read a Third time; Clause (That nothing in this Act, or in any other Act, shall be deemed or taken to authorise the said Commissioners to continue in any way to enforce, or to issue, any order by them heretofore made, or hereafter to be made, whereby they may hav e d etermined, or may deter mine, or assume to determine, the continuance in office or dismissal of any officers appointed, or to be appointed, under the provisions of any local Act for the regulation, or the government, or the appointment of the officers of any parish, which cent ,ins a population exceeding twen ty thousand persons), brought up, and re a d the first time :—Motion made, and Question put, " That the second time." The House divid e d : MINORITY—AYES , 29. Bell, Jacob llastie, Ale xander Ricardo, Osman Boyle, Colonel hustle, Archib ald Salwey, Colonel Carter, samuel Hindley Charles Scholefle id , W. Clay, Sir W. Hume, Joseph Clause be now read a Cogan, W. IL Ilutthins, E.& S e ymour, 11. D. Collins, William King, P. J. • Stuart, Lord D. D'Eyncourt, C. T. K T o wnshend, Captaininnaird, A. F. Williams, W. Duke, Sir J. Mackinnon, W. A Duncan, George Molesworth, Sir. W TELL 233. Duncombe, T. Osborne, Ralph Evans, sir Be Lacy Fitzroy, lion. 11. rechell, Sir (1. Hall, Sir B. --- BIAJORMY IS—NOE., 93. 0 Adair, R. Shafto Duncombe, A Adderley, C. . Dunne, Colo nel . • Lowther, Colonel Ansley, Thomas Du Pre, C. G. Lushington, C. Bailey, Joseph Ebrington, Viscount Maeville, Vis. Baillie, IL J. Edwards, 11. ~. 3fanu nd ers, Lord J. Baines, M. T. Freestun, Colonel Egerton, IV. T. Naas, Lord Baird James Fellowes, Edward Napier, Joseph 6:Jukes, G. Forbes, William Newport, Visct. Baring, Sir F. T. Forester, Colonel Noel, G. J. Barrington, Vie. ' cke C.;.IV. Beresford, William Freshfleld, J. W. Pakington, Bonham-Carter, J. Fuller, A. E. Pennant, Colonel Bramston, T. IV. Gilpin, Colonel Pugh, David , Irernridg,e, Richard Graham, Sir James Seaham, Viscount Bruce, Lord E. Granger, T. C. Stanley,Lord Bruce, C. L. C. Grey, Ralph Wm. , Stanton, W. 1 1 - Buck, L. W. Grogan, Edward Stewart, Admiral Burghley, Lord Hale, R. B. Sutton, H d f • i Campbell, Sir A. Hamilton, G. A. Taylor, Colonel Carew, W. P. Hamilton, J. H. Tennent, Sir J. Thompson, Colonel Chandos, Marquis of Hamilton, Lord C. Chichester, Lord J. Harris, Richard Ia ' Sir J. Touemache, John Christopher, R. Henley, J. W. Trollope, Sir J. Christy, Samuel Heywood, James Tyler, Sir G. Clinton, Lord C. Hope, Sir J. 'Verner, Sir IV. Clive, R. H. Hotham, Lord YYse, H. R. li. Cochrane, A. D. Hutt, William Waddington, H. S . Codringtou, Sir W. Inglis, Sir R. Whiteside, James Conolly, Thomas Johnstone, Sir J. Wortley, J. S. Cotton, IV. H. Joillife, Sir W. G. ‘YYnn H. W. Denison, Edmund Jones, David Yorke, E. T. Disraeli, B. Knox, W. S. ' - Divett, Edward Lacy, H. C. TELLERS. Dodd, George • Lascelles, E. Mackenzie, W. f ' Lennox, Lord H. G. CRIME AND OUTRAGE (lEEEAND) BILL. (IN THE COMBIITTE.I Clause One (recited Acts continued) :.... ' Question proposed, " That the blank be fifi,,, Motion made, and ----, with the words ' thirty-first day of August one thousand fifty-three :' "—Afterwards moved, " That th e with the words ' thirty-first day blank be filled of December one thousand eight hundred and fifty-two .' " Question nut, „ eight hundred and That the blank be filled with the words ' thirty ..fi rst v one thousand d eight hundred and flay-th ree,' »y of August mittee divided:— The Coln- MAJORITY-AYES, 104. MINORITY—NOES, 11. . M ell G. Anstey, T. C. agan, W. 11. r eeh Mailer, N. .Sir Carter, Samuel Mahon, O'Gorman Cogan, W. H. Devereux, J. T. TELLERS. Green, John Norreys, Sir D. Sc 'V Francis O'Connell, M. J. - Scully , incent .... . - • TUESDAY. JUNE 22. METROPOLITAN BURIALS LIL T (IN THE COMMITTEE.) '• Clause 30 (A portion not to be so consecrated)Amend ment proposed, page 9 , line 3 , to leave out-ro ‘P r t ut the word p ro viding," to the end of the Clause, In nrdeo add the words " every case in which the party having to inter in such Burial the direction funera lofthe Ground h ofaperssoali give nwom noticeit is intended tothe keeper of the sa id ground, that the services of a Minister of the said United t Church of England and Ireland will not be required therea, it shall be lawful to inter any part of such Burial Ground the body relative to which such notice shall have been given without the services of any such I Minister, and to have the Burial Service performed as well in the said Chapel as in the said Burial G rou nd, according to th e usages of the religious denomination to which the deceased, or the party may have b e l on ged or r a o g n t g h : e ”_ d i r Q e c u t e i s o t n i o n f p t u h t e , d h a f t u n the e ral, words providing any Burial Ground such B oar d s hall,' stand part o f The Committee divid e d : - the Clause.'" MAJORITY—AYES, Acland, Sir T. F uller, A . E. Packe, a . w i Adderley, C. B. Galway, Viscou nt Pakington, Sr John Bailey, Joseph G allwey, Sir W. Patten, J. 'W. Baillie, 11. J. G ooch, B. S. • Portal, melville Baird, James Gil p i n, Colone l Pr uue, Richard Bankes, G. " H am i lton, G. A. Pugh, David Beresford, William Hamilton, Lord C. Scott, Francis Bruce, Lord E. Harris, Captain Seahain, Viscount Campbell, Sir A. Heneage, G. li. Seymour, Lord Carew, W. P. Henley, J. W. Sotheron, T. Chandos, Marq. of Hildyard, R. C. Tennent, Sir J. Chatterton, Colonel Hope, Sir J. . Trollope, Sir J. Clinton, Lord C. Jolliffe, Sir W. G. Tyler, Sir G. _ Codrington, Sir W. Knox, W. S. Tyrell, Sir J. Cotton, W. S. Lockhart, W. Walpole, S. IL Disraeli, B. Lowther, Colonel Whiteside, James Duckworth, Sir J. Mandeville, Viscount Willoughby, Sir H. Duncombe, A. Manners, Lord C. Yorke, B. T. Dunne, Colonel Manners, Lord J. Fellowes, E. Naas, Lord TELLES& Forester, Colonel Napier, J oseph Mackenzie, W . F. Fox, S. L. Newport, Viscount Lennox, Lord 11. G. MINORI Bell, Jacob Harris, Rich ard Smith, J. Benjamin Bon h a m-Carter, J. Haste, Archi bald Stewart, Admiral Hatch Boyle, Colonel , TY--- NOES, 40. ell, Joh n Brotherton, J. Hindley, C. Thompson, Colonel Brown, W. Hutt, 'William Thom Pon, George Carter, Samuel King, P. J. Thorne , ly Thomas Lacy, 11, C . wimps, Brodie Divett, E. Duke, Sir J. Lushirigton, ch ant ,. wihiams. w• Mackinnon, ly. A. • , Matthew Duncan, G. Wilson, Milligan, Robe * htson W. B. buncombe, T. Robes Wrig ' Freestun, Colonel Molesworth, sir W. Greene, John Osborne, itaipt, Y, Colon e l Lord R. Peto, Samuel W. Grosvenor, Clay, Sir Hall Slr B. Ricardo, Osman Salwe D'EYne a ' at C. T. Stuart, u l / I, •c r t. i luttley Hardeastle, J. A. BF THE SECRETARY nt, REFORM ASStheof his right to sit in the OCIATION. (CONTINUED ON HIONDA.YS AND WEDNESDAYS.) , Sir,—On Monday the 21st f / ` - ' 0 : o T u li ne E , b :R fa A r D tthh F ee O mm ß eom p s., important occurrence, was the what is ber for Youghal (Mr. Anstey) „ occas i on of called the Disabilities Rep ea l p„ — td, the object of which is to relieve Mr. Alderman Salomons from some of the in a l t r e a n is d e a d nt by on ~,, his hay- House : The Member for Youp,hal, as there h a s been occasion to say before, is an able lawy er t a h g e e ous ofquestion -; and the point advanced m ing est tr o ie h,t l r by him, and unanswered by Of y boa t hi s . tie y, was maintained, that the verdict of the jury in the case where the verdict was given f or Salo Mr. Alderman mons the defendant, was an e xercise of the right, (on which the two divisions into Con stitutional and Preroga: tive lawyers have always been and still are at war), of being judges of the law as well 4 5 of the fact; and con sequently that verdict was a judicial declaration, by a power which of all others is ol os , b rooted in the affec tions of Englishmen, of the incoherence of that strange decision by which the House of ; Com mon s put the Old Testament into the hands of a Juror on d of its the groan being binding upon his conscience and then demanded a declaration that he swore on th' e Old Testament on the " true faith" of a believer in ft .°lll ething else which it was known he was not. Fancy that a Roman Senate period when there be an to be a cessation of the_a r t y 01 .. Christianos ad 1 o g nes," had put the Gospels into Cho hands of an avowed Christian e as the means of taking ati oath required for admission into their body, and h" ---'‘ fi • finished by requir. osay be swore upon it Ins ;him t Bacchus, A L e n the true faith - of a in n eliever in .6 mars, d have P°l " ) deorum." What a derision would roar of ee "edthrough all the •nt and modern . chambers of ancient , imagine history: Or that the Grand should Signor Put th e sa me book candidate ands of a Greek fo r offi ce , and inton theh d that he should say he .took th e oath on the faith of a true bel mission iever in the • of We cannot see our ownh shown hump Wt. Mohammed. , and therefore it is necessary we should e l4 °W it would look on somebody else. . On Tuesday amendment was n an i-r°Posed in the ment Bill, with a view to removing h v "pleasant inflictions Inter on Dissenters, and negatived -62 _ t° 40. As being under old ties to the Dissenters as well applied to for attention to this rti as having been whe, P t ll- I ; a o . l4 ar case, I make the following reinarks upon be 41 ; in which I hope nothing unfriendly willwhen Been, The Dissenters run against a strong point, .. theya of performing -et tiond the right their own services in t 6 . has been set apart for the services of ' ground which what is called Consecration. I takeatiother church by fel ' granted that Protestants in general attachat.verylittle b., lute importance to the consecration : l o l l: of gro .3 —ore of abso non for burying, then to the consecration of bells, which . candles, mules, asses, oxen, and fishing-boats, all of are ,_ consecrated by the us a ge s another (1, w 'Hat is called if they attach anyi. Church. Or importance,of its t i -- mainly or en respecttirely in consequence bycew. and rest (whichthe ~.. -- I to obtain not obtain, when metropolitan grave.a; "oY it does the bones of onr predecessors - Lggers knock again " as is their wont) for the remains of the Dissenters therefore have a right V each o th er to cl a i m ._ - aned. The this comfort; b u t it d o es no t necessarily fon 143 Part k they might not provide it for themselves. ,I::wae in , tha l t l always find their opponents in a strong positi on .1. hey will as those opponents can reply, as was re , so long Ptit 'd on T d that the ground consecrated by c hu ues ay, land men, is open to Dissenters, if reh-of-Eng is made to .the performance of no objec toifon th England's service. The points Church the a the counsel for the Dissenters to refore for i n to, were whether the Church service i s s leave inquired administered for a Dissenter in all eases uoo d b e wher e to _ - jection is made,--which there is considerable r e no ob believe it is not; und whether Dissenters Ya ea h s a on e to portion of the ground if they like, and p r oceed to secure va its being set apart for their purposes, by „.. ceremony they may clause. y religious These were t a e questions ' a counsel f or th e Di ssenters s h ou ld hap ask e d ; an d when because nobody as ked them I was proce do it mys e lf i n f ewer wor d s than here state eding to d, I wa s cried down by the friends of the Dissenters. So I ad -1 vise somebody the Dissenters to ask them another ti me, through I I am, Sir, yours very sincerely, AN OLD REFORMER. 1 Blackheath, Jane 23,1852. JUNE 23, 185* LAW INTELLIGENCE. CO 17 ZIT OF QUEEN',S BENCH, June 22. (Sit►tings at Nisi Prius at W estminster, before Lord CAMPBELL and a Special Jury.) THE QUEEN (ON THE PROSECUTION el' ACHILLI) NEWMAN.-CRININAL INFORDIATI DN, (C , ntinucti Irons our Afternoon Edition Of—yo-sterday.) The next part of the case which was gone into was the connexion of Dr. Achilli with the college established at Malta by a committee of gentlemen in England, at the head of whom was Lord Shaftesbury. Dr. Achilli held the post of Italian theological tutor in that branch o f the college which was devoted to the reception of priests seceded from the Roman Catholic Church. The Earl of Shaftesbury, D r. Hadfield, President of the College, and Mr. Watts, clerical secretary to the committee, were examined relative to Dr. Achilli's conduct there, which, though not marked by any of the excesses which, according to the evidence, appear to have disgraced his residence in other places, was of a nature to cause his dismissal from the post which he there held While resident there it ap peared that charges were brought by an Armenian priest, named Kaesi, who afterwards absconded, involving Dr. Achilli and two Italian priests, Saccores and Leonini, rela • tive to the introduction of women into the college. _ The committee determined to investigate the charge, but failed in so doing in consequence of Dr. Achilli having suddenly sent away Saccores on,a missio❑ to Sicily. For this act, and for having absented himself for an entire month from the college without leave, the committee in London dismissed Dr. Achilli from his post. The next part of the case gone into was the offences alleged to have been committed by Dr. Achilli in England. The first witness called was Harriet Harris, a good-locking young woman of about 20 years.of age, examined.by Sir A. CocKnuas, who said—That in 1850, she,was engaged by Dr.Achiili as a domestic servant. He then lived at Shaftesbury-crescent, Pimlico. Mrs. Achilli was not then arrived. The first evening that I was there, Dr. Achilli came down stairs into the kitchen, and, taking hold of me, tried to put his arms round my waist and tried to kiss me. He also tried to put his hands in other p!aces and to take impropr liberties with me, but I would not let him. He tried to do it several times, bir, he did not succeed. He asked me, too, it I wanted a bedfellow. —(Laughter.) He never attempted to take liberties with me after Mrs. Achilli came back. Jane Legg, examined by Mr. BADDELEY—I was, in the beginning of last year, in the service of Dr. Achilli, at Shaftesbury-place, Pimlico. After I had been there three months, Dr. Achilli began to take liberties with me. I gave notice to leave, but he persuaded me to stay on. He had not done anything worse to me than kiss me then, but very soon after he came up to me one morning in my mis tress's bed-room, and had connexion with ma. He had connexion with me several times after, and in the end I be came in the family way and gave birth to a child on the sth of November last. There was a gentleman staying at Dr. Achilli's then, named _ Augustini, who also took liberties with me and had connexion with me. My baby died soon after it was born. Dr. Achilli never gave me any linen for my confinement. I never asked him. . I have seen Dr. Achilli since my baby died. I told him that I had been subpoenaed to come here; he told mel bad no oc casion to go, I must shut the door in the face of any one who came to fetch me. Cross-examinated by the SOLICITOR-GENERAL—Mrs. Achilli never found fault with me about my conduct with men ; she objected to a young man who used to come to see me, whom she found one night behind the back kitchen-door. There was also another young man who used to come to see me. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL—HOW many men were you in the habit of seeing ? Witness—l am not obliged to answer that question. Lord CAmr.BELL—If you have no objection you had better answer it. Witness—Well, I had only two, the young man whom Mrs. Achilli found, and another one. Lord CAmreELL —They came to court you 2 Witness —Yes, my Lord. Mrs. Achilli used to say she would not have any young man coming to see me after dark. I cannot swear who was the father of my child. I do not know. Sir A. COCKBURN—Had any one else connexion with you besides Dr. Achilli and Augustini? The witness remained silmt and gave no answer to this question, which was not pressed. Sarah Logan—l am the wife of John Logan, an en gineer, who lives at 11, Shaftesbury-crescent, Pimlico. lam the sister of the last witness. She was delivered at my house. Dr. Achilli came to my house to take lodgings for two friends. Subsequently a clerk from Mr. Lewin's came to inquire about my sister. I sent to inform Dr. Achilli about it. He came to me one day, in the evening, and said that Mrs. Castellini was em ployed by Dr. Newman's party—that Dr. Newman was a very bad man, and he hoped to have him sent to pri son. He said if the people came again I was to shut the door in their faces. I said it had been a great expense to us having to keep my sister, particularly as the baby had died in our house. H e sa id e , Yes, yes." He said nothing more, except that he would come again, and repeated that we were to shut the door in the faces of any persons who came to serve us with subpcoaas. Two or three days afterwards he came again to us. We had then been subpoeaaed. We showed him the subpoenas, and he said be thought they would not compel us to go, Lle said that he thought my sister Jane had nothing to say against him. I said, Of course, sir, you know what passed between you and Jane." He made no an swer. Nothing more was then said. Some days after he came again, about an anonymous letter which h a d been sent him about any sister. It said he ought to be ashamed to draw poor domestics into trouble, and not bear them through it; and that unless he sent 5/. to defray all expenses, he should farther hear of it. I said that I did not know who had sent it. Dr. Achilli said that it must have come from the same parties as the subpoenas. Cross-examined—Dr. Achilli talked to me in English on every occasion. I cannot tell from where my sister came to my house. Dr. Achilles friends remained in my house until after my sister was confined. I believe that it is owing to Mrs. Castellini that we were subpeeaaed. I did not wish to come here to be mixed up bathe business, and therefore I said to my sister, on see ing her talking to Mrs. Castellini after we had received our suleyeeae,s, " I had rather spit in her face than talk to her."—(Laughter.) I did not wish my sister to have anything to say to her. Re-examined—This was after I had seen Dr. Achilli. Sarah Wood—l am aged 19. lam now living with my parents at Windsor. I have lived in the service of Dr. Achilli. I entered his service in March of the year before last. I believe it was 1852.—(Laughter.) I came to his house from an establishment called the House of Mercy, at Windsor, presided over by Mrs. Tennent. When I left his house 1 went to my parents. I have been with them now about five months. He took liberties with me after I had been with him about a fortnight. I went upstairs to clean out Augustini's bed-room; and while I was there, Achilli came in; he followed me several times round the room and tried to put his hands round my waist, but he did not succeed, as I walked away from him. His proceedings were inter rupted by a knock at the door. He ran down stairs and commenced writing. I went down to see who it was, and found it was my mistress, who had re turned home for her parasol. After she went out again I went back to the bed-room, and he followed and re newed his attempts. I walked away and began to cry, and threatened to write to Mrs. Tennent. He said if I did I should be a very naughty girl. He subsequently gave me a religious book, the title of which was . 4 Cec ile to Jesus." About a fortnight afterwards, when Mrs. Achilli was out, he called me into his dressing-room to dust the table. I knelt down for the purpose of dusting the legs, and while I WAS doing this he bolted the door, and then taking me by the shoulders threw me with great force upon a bed. I resisted with all my might, but could nut get away. He was intimate with me then against my will. I told him I would leave. I stayed five months afterwards, however. I left because I was so ill that I could not stay any longer. My lather then came to take me away. Cross-examined—The House of Mercy is a place for women who have misconducted themselves. I was taken in there on the recommendation of Mrs. Tennent. I was in the kouse about nineteen months; I was sixteen when I went there. Mrs. Tennent recommended me to Mrs. Achilli. I am a Protestant. I fasted during part of Lent, while I was with Mrs. Tennent; but not while I was at Dr. Achilli's. I had not a hymn book to the Virgin Mary. Some people say that the House of Mercy is a Roman Catholic establish ment; but I believe it is not. Mrs. Achilli told me that Mrs. Tennant had been a Roman Catholic, but had left that religion. I told no one of the liberties which Dr. Achilli had taken with me until about four months ago, when one of Mr. Lewin's clerks came to me at Windsor. I did not then tell him about the worst part of the liberties. Three or four days afterwards, however, my father and mother questioned me about the matter, and I told my mother all. They told me I should tell the truth, and I then got a woman to write to Mr. Lewin to tell him all that had passed between me and Dr. Achilli. Re-examined —I had been seduced before I went to the House of Mercy. I went there in consequence of having quarrelled with my family. By the COURT —I was away from my father's house about three days before I went to the House of Mercy. I had been seduced about six monthspreviously. I first went there without his knowledge. I had been to school, but I left as I could nurse the baby. Only one person had had anything to do with me before I went to this house. Catherine Freeman—Dive at 6, Great Smith-street, W e stminster. I once lived in ser vice with Miss Lam bert, 3, St. James's-street. I lived with her from 1843 to 1849. Dr. Achilli came to lodge there in 1 b 84 e 7 before he went to Melton. About six months after Oame he attempted to take liberties with me, by putting his hands about my waist. He asked me to confess to him.— (Laughter.) I got away from him. On one occasion subsequently he asked mo to show him the name of a street on the map. As I wentiuspt t o e t . he table for the I went away pur pose he pressed his body aga di r ectly. lam a Catholic, and mentioned these things to my confessor. Dr. Achilli while a t Miss Lambert's was irregular in his habits , and used to come in late at night. Cross-examined —Miss Lambert was apsaartdorfesDsmr.aAkechillii. nee er told her of this conduct on h I was first applied to about coming hero by Mr. Simpson, o f Clapham common. He is a Roman Catholic, livi ng upon his own property. I have also seen Father Hut chinson, at the Oratory,about it. He came to me about a week after Mr. Simpson. Mr. James V. Harting—l am a solicitor in Lincoln's- Ina-fields. I was employed in November or December l as t to go abroad to collect the evidence necessary in this case,l went first to Rome , then to Viterbo, then a g ain to Rome, then to klalta, then back to Naples; after wards once more to Rome, and thence home. At Vi terbo I entered into communication with the bishop and his vicar-general, and with the priors of two convents. I communicated also with the police authorities at Vi terbo, and the apostolic delegate. The gonfaloniero of Viterbo told me that he could not furnish me with any eiee documents to be need in this case, because they Pe had all been destroyed in the last revolution. I applied to the police authorities there for the documents in their possession. I applied to the Minister for Eccle siastical Affairs, and I now produce an examined copy of a report from the Minister of Police to the Minister of Ecclesiastical Affairs, with reference to cases in which 440 W? mooed. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL Ohjnted to the reception of this document as • .291th'Le3 of the 21st plea (which set forth that in an official document of the metropolitan p o li ce Achilli was reported and deolsred to be known for habitual incontinency at Naples), because it had been copied from a document in the archives of the Ministry of Ecclesiastical Aff,irs, which was not authenticated as a report of the Minister of Police. After a short discussion, Lord CAMPBELL held that the document was not sufficiently authenticated, and it was accordingly not received. Witness then continued—Afterwards went to Rome and applied at the Court of tho Inquisition for a copy of the judgment of that court affecting Dr. Achilli. I obtained a copy under seal of the judgment of the court from the notary of the court. There is an office in the personal know Vatican f or t h e t ransm it of business of this court. Cross-examined by the SOLICITOR GENERAL—I ha ve no erson a l nowledge of the practice of the Inquisition. I w s told b y the assessor o f the Inquisition that this Talbot, the - . ix, the personoy ; to by an w th:7;cate documents. Munsignuro private secretary of the Pope, introduced me Monsignors Talbot D. before. sl ()r *I-76 the notice the - . Gin c e'' of , noui . t 'ion ) I had known 11:liens:urn. introduced fo The Right Re v . Dr. Grant—l am an English Roman Catholic biThop. Lord CAMPBELL—I ' Witness—l was a resident in (Laughter.) will not ask you of what see.— years. I was for some t; el College then at Rome. Darien th© head of the English matters with which I was el - ia ,g - L . L'i d Y Rome nearly fifteen residence there the anco with the business of the ' co " u r led to an acquaiat the court of the Holy Office or In courts of Rom®. 1 know appliedwhic in the Vatican. I have seen documents purporting to ho under the seal of the court. court for documents, and documents for tinned have since been furnished to me, Thep I P er i" affixed to them a seal, purporting to be that y "d court. They were similar to that affixed to thpo-f the moat now produced, which I believe to be a . docum e n t "" emanating from the court. . . _ . . . . Cross-examined—l have received documents from ti Inquisition, but I do not know that I have seen thi,, particular form of seal before. I have been told that the office of the Inquisition has been removed to the Vatican, where it was when I knew it, but I have no personal knowledge of the fact. The Court of the In quisition has the supreme jurisdiction over the Catholic clergy in matters ecclesiastical—that is with respect to the higher crimes. lam perfectly acquainted with the law with resp-ct to these court:, halving beau frequently consulted by Cardinal Acton on points of law connected with the jurisdiction of these courts. The jurisdiction of the Court of Inquisition exists in different states by the consent of the Governments, who have to some extent dictated its proceedings. Its jurisdiction varies in different states. The Attorney and Solicitor General and Mr. Ellis then briefly contended that there was no sufficient proof that the document produceC. was an authentic copy of the judgment of the Inquisition. Lord CAMPBELL remarked, in the course of the argu ment, that this was the first time since the Reformation that the judgment of the Court of Inquisition had been tendered in evidence in an English court of justice. His Lordship then, after hearing defendant's counsel in reply, said :—The opinion of the Court can be asked as to whether this document can be received in evidence or not. lam clearly of opinion that it can. Looki❑g at this document I find that it is a copy of the pro ceedings of the Court of Inquisition. Thank God that we have not in this country a tribunal of inqui sition.—(Applause.) But I am bound to believe there is in every Roman Catholic country such a tribunal, and that such a jurisdiction is exercised at Rome, but, thank God, it does not extend to this country.--(Ap plause.) This country will, however, be ready to receive documents emanating from courts of justice in other countries; and I am inclined to think that in receiving this document I am not in the slightest danger of doing that which may prove injurious to the Pro testant religion of this country. The document was then admitted, his Lordship remarking, while it wet being read—" I do not receive this as I should a record of a Court of Admiralty as conclusive evidence of the facts, but only as evidence in support of the defendant's allegation that there is such a judgment in the Cour." The original document being in Latin, the following translation was read : "1, the undersigned notary of the Holy Roman and Universal Congregation of the Inquisition, do testify that, after a complete investigation of the proceedings instituted in the holy office against Father Hysciath Achilli, priest, religious professor of the order of preachers., it is proved from the same acts that the said Achilli, having been examined by the established au thorities, confessed himself guilty of having held carnal intercourse whilst ho was living in the monastery of Viterbo with many women; also of having deflowered another who was a virgin in the city of Mount Faliscue, and of having carnally known two other women at Caput. Moreover, it is discovered that be made another girl at Naples a mother, and that the superior of the order of preachers paid fifty scudi to another woman who had been corrupted by the said Achilli, in order to make amends for the injuries done. Lastly, I attest that on account of the crimes of the above-named, and other crimes of which mention is made in the acts after mature and deliberate examination of the heavy charges resulting from the acts, after having weighed the charges put forth and considered other matters according to custom, and after having mercifully accepted the confes sion of the accused himself and his own declaration of the following tenor:—`l do not ask to b 3 chastised, nay, rather I desire to be severely dealt with on my own showing, according as justice demands. I will re ceive with resignation whatever punishment may be de termined upon, and supposing there were wanting suf ficient reason for proceeding with greater rigour, I de sire that confession be considered sufficient grounds for punishing me as the said tribunal shall think beet,' their Eminences the Inquisitors General on Wednesday, June 16, 1841, in the Convent of Santa Maria-super- Mienroam, decreed that the accused Father Hyacinth Achilli, after baying been for ever suspended from the celebration of the sacrifice of the mass, and for ever dis abled from any sort of direction of souls, and preaching the Word of God, and deprived of active and passive voice in the government of his or der, and after having had salutary penances i m posed upon him, he con d emne d to remain for three years in some religious house of his order of the most strict observance. " Given in testimony of all these facts for . the Chan cellor's office of the holy office, on this day, September 22, 1851." The defendant's counsel then tendered in evidence a document p u rporting to bo a copy of a petition presented by a man named Nicolo Garamoni, to the civil tribunal at Corfu, in which he alleged as a defence to an action for alimony brought against him by his wife that she had been committed for adultery with Achilli. This document was tendered as proof of the 22d plea, but its authenticity. having been objected to as insufficient, his Lordship rejected ir. Nicholi was then called, and said—l am a Dominican friar. Every one becoming a member of that order takes the three usual vows of poverty, obedience, and chastity. Every priest, whether of that order or not, comes under the obligation to chastity. Sir ALEXANDER COCKBURN was then about to adduce evidence to show that if the defendant's charges against Dr. Achilli were true, their publication was for the pub lic utility, when The ATTORNEY-GENERXL said that he would not trouble his Learned Friend to prove this, but would at once admit it. Sir ALEXANDER COCKBURN stated that that was the case for the defendant, and the Court then (at a quarter past eight o'clock) adjourned to halt-past nine o'clock to-morrow. MIDDLESEX SESSIONS, June 22. ATTEMPTED ASSAULT ON THE ASSISTANT-JUDGE.--- William Jones, a ruffianly-looking follow, 21 years of age, was charged with stealing a purse and 11.35. 7d., the property of Mary Aan Fry, from her person. This case was also prosecuted by the Great Western Railway Company. Mr. D. Seymour appeared for the prosecution, and Mr. Ribton fur the defence. The prisoner was apprehended at the Paddington station, on the evening of the 29th of May, by Linden, an officer employed by the company, for an attempt to pick pockets, which formed the subject of another indict ment against him. The moment he was taken he threw away a purse containing 11. 3s. 7d., which subsequently was discovered to be the property of a Miss Fry, who just before had arrived by the train from Berkshire. She had felt it safe a minute or two before arriving at the station, but immediately afterwards missed it. The prisoner was taken by Mr. Collard, the superintendent of the company's police, when he kicked and fought, and at last was overcome by as many persons as could lay hold of him, and bound down on a stretcher, closely secured, hand and foot. --- ; The jury returned a verdict of Guilty. It was shown that the prisoner bad four times been apprehended during the years 1850 an d 185 1 at Gloo tester for offences of this character, and h a d b een twiOe . convicted. The ASSISTANT JUDGE said he supposed that fin c r np , that place too hot to hold him, he had come up ' to l v , --1 '„ to carry out the same practice. He then senteneeclt°hi'r; to be transported for ten years. froth the cells As the prisoner was being removed from th e dock to pass down the staircase leading into it his hand below, he managed very dexterously t o into his pocket, and, drawing from it a small t) Stone ink bottle, flung it at the Learned Judge. So true that, although the transaction occupied Was his aim the missile whizzed by within Sergeant Adams's head, and struck th e or so b e h ind isi • 1 3 his chair with considerable for ce an i nch uut a moment, canopy -call% .dangerous w l/11 . a _ If Mr. Sergese, Adams had been hit, a severe, if he ' t must have been inflicted. prisoner to be brought back, a n d se cured and brought forward to th e was accordu!g e lZ ~. e front of the that, in by the officers. The Learne:See h i mmediate ordered. the prisoner then d salu ss y consequence of his daring outrs . a more severe sentence on him, and }, ge, he shoal 15 years' transportation instead of 10. , 0 then The prisoner was then reguarded, and moved,. properly the business of the court was continued. senten cedP him to ____.„—___ 11 pais again effi {ADVERTISEMENT.]-11.0tioway's - - _Extract of cacious in Curing a Severe Case of Rheum atis t r lad, Salford. a letter from Mr. W ' rn• Davis, of 36, Dated, April 12th, 1 852. —." Te Professo r g rheumatic pains in e li n olloway. Sir, — I have been troubled for some months withl could hear or think all my limbs, and have tried everything . s 1 as recommended to try of without any good eff.ct relievedv me, and before I had your pills, a few doses of which ell,, and am now in the en finished the second box I was qui!%t4ittaker, druggist, of this joyment of sound health. M r ' h i, statement.' —Sold by all place, will cheerfully Dru Hon Establishment, '244, ggists, and at Profe v sso eri r fi g nt Strand, London. The Rev. Williame orn ewall, Colonial Chaplain, Cafe C oast Castle, b ad a n interview with Si r John I'akingtou yesterd* a t the Colonial-office. S rj* NAVAL 1N TEoLn:Liefuren.E.nNt PORTSMOUTH, TUESDAY.—A. court.martiaj4-4rgered to asSmbla .o morrow morning on board thjOritithlrY, '7 l Captain G. a m ir tin, C. 8., breach of discipline, as embodied in therAtiovving enarge:—" For that the said Lieutenant George wa d Serocold Pearce Serocold, when a Lieutenant, of her. Majesty's ship Retribution, and in actual service and full pay - of her Majesty's fleet, did on the 17th day of June, 1852, on board the said ship, neglect his duty as officer cf the watch; aiod when tt:e said Lieutenant G. E. S. P. Serocold was thereupon called to account by Lieutenant George Oramaney Willes, the Senior Lieutenant of tho said ship, for his conduct, the said Lieutenant G.E. S. P. Serocold did on board the said ship state that it was very impertinent for the said Lieutenant G. 0. Willes to speak to him, the said Lieutenant G. E. S. P. Serocold." The Barracouta paddle-sloop, under the command of Capt. the Hon. S. T. Carnegie for trial, left last evening for Woowich, taking round supernumeraries for the ships fitting out at the eastward. Sprightly steam-tender, Mr. George Allen, Acting Master Commanding, sailed to-day for Plymouth, taking supernuaierariei: Lad also seamen for Rear-Admiral Curry's squadron at Cork. The following officers had audiences of the Dake of Northumberland, at the Admiralty, yesterday :—Cap tains—lL B. Young, T. H. Sulivan, E. Stanley, R. J. Sutivan, T. S. Brock, T. P. Thompson, J. Marett. ecininarider.s—F. E. Johnston, W. N. Fowell, E. B. Westbrocit, A. Morrell, T. H. Christian, T. B. Bond, W. Bils, G. Lieutenants—J. Sanders, W. C. de \r / e, W. C. Now(4l, T. W. Langton, T. Seumarez, IL Y. Diclieo, S. H. Rickets, G. Mason, J. Norris, E. L. Pym; Mr. Kennedy. Rear-Admiral Hyde Parker, C. 13., the senior naval L EA II, received the following officers yesterday :—Cap tains—S. Brock, F. D. Hastings, R. Sulivan. Comman dErs—W. Fowell, Morrell, H. H. Bingham, W. Boys, Lieutenants— . =O G o . w S : j'i:ay J. Kennedy, T n . n S ed an y : aeliG..'lYEl.:B:P.Trioe.koemert:2l3B,7l.l.JP..Seandeers,s'll. P. D.cken. Payrnata.er The Lilowing cfficers attended Rear• Admiral Sir l'h iPP3 Uornhy's levee:—Ctiptain E. Stanley. Cowman dera— wir Pol!, Nt'llWaille,enned,, Westbrook, —..orren, Lieutenants —`r• K H W1 1:1 Hallett, nghanara_ r o e n e k ei i v N er ß , oetnhd annual survey. '8 54 I t u D a van, Sander:, been twmpurary °k i t . M r111:13r CharlesLe eso n AIL of ; fh a e ; chief ion ° el er , have appointed t l h 'h e om q a o s re l : Woolwich Dockyard, during the L NV A V .,,XPECTED kiPENIII/47G swwiriAlniribi,doWpietisntheihindtetaontfti:h:ei n.pdou RA ' „ IN TELLIG opneing, which expires aotbOyintPtoc:Tr theentt:l: e ee h2w S o T th o 12 Stourui BoardValleyrp, VALLEY t c e ao N h e n b C , T E L t v r E ißca;vd il i eolt e ih e , eanar itsys o —Fovre, p I e V re O e R i C v E e ST ELI E:t t , v. ; hampton Chronic?e, Re l l 'll to. E vA ( Y )x . parties immediately interested in and trade of Worcester and its eel . the Prosperity of influential of the city Worcester ing great efforts to secure the selection the ‘he Oxford, are malt for the locomotive and other workshops n o s i- )f Worcester, and Wolverhampton Railway. position Worcester appears to sanctieu such :17:1 1 4! We should think, however, that the Wolverh ampton in terest is more likely to secure the site in the latter town. The probable amount of wages which would be expendedwn. by the company is estimated at about 7001. a week s sera which would be important in whatever locality ( 11 8 trihuted.—Railtray Record. THE EGYPTIAN RAILWAY.—The AssemlilEe Nec tionale states, in addition to the official details lately brought of the treaty concluded by Fuad Effendi with the Viceroy of Egypt, that in what concerns the Suez gl:b'vLvErtruateToN Railway the Porte has expressly stipulated that this work should be executed only with the pecuniary re sources of Egypt. Recourse to English capital is pro hibited, because it might lead to the alienation of a part of the territory, which would be contrary to a funda mental law of the Ottoman empire. The railway is also to be served by Egyptians. The execution of the works clone is to be confided to an Egyptian engineer. Fuad Effendi has been raised to the reek of Mushir, or Mar shal of the Empire. He is daily expected to arrive at Constantinople. EASTERN UNION AND EASTERN COUNTIES RAILWAYS. —The Legislature having removed the only obstacle to the construction of the Harwich line, we hope the di rectors of these companies will forthwith prosecute the works with vigour. The Dutch Government having granted the concession for a line of telegraphic commu nication from the Hague to Harwich indicates that it is alive to the importance of this route, tehich, in a national point of view, cannot be over estimated, as at- present our only means of rapid communication with the conti nent of Europe is vid France. We hope also that the Harwich branch may have the effect of bringing these two companies into closer connexion; it will no doubt be a great feeder to the traffic of both, as by its unrivalled harbour it possesses advantages superior to any port from Southampton to the Humliar. The distance between the southeastern route and the eastern counties being about the same, a considerable portion of the Ostend traffic must pass over the new line. IC the remainder of the dispute is only a question of what the two lines are relatively worth, could not some mutual friend deter mine the facts submitted to him for arbitration?—Rail way Times. RAILWAY SHARE MARKETS. BRISTOL, JUNE 22. SrOCIC EXCIIASOII.—A considerable amount of business was transacted in our share market to-day at firm prices. The sales reported were—Bristol and Exeter, :39—Great Western, 94 3 A—Taff Vale, sew, 2 7 7 8 p. LIVERPOOL, JUNE 22. - _ STOCK EXCHANGE.—There was an improved feeling ex hibited in the share market to-day, and a large business has been done at higher prices. The transactions were aa follow :—Birkenhead, Lancashire, and Cheshire (late Chester and Birkenhead), 221 . Shares, 5 '5 % dis.—Aberdeen, 14% Caledonian, 213 —Eastern Counties, 10 9.l6—East Lanca shire, 19 LA—Ditto, Preference, Quarters, 9 LA—Lancashire and Yorkshire, 78%—Ditto, Fifths, 4% dis.—Lancaster and Carlisle,Thirds, 10 7 / 8 p. —London and North-Western, 125 3 / —Ditto, New Quarters, 6 p.—Ditto, Fifths, 4% p.—Man cheater, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire, 34—Midland, 71 LA — North Union (A), 'guaranteed by London and North- Western and Lancashire and Yorkshire, 261—South-Eastern and Dover, 21 5 / B —York, Newcastle, and Berwick, 18 1 4—. York and North Midland, 25%—Dutch Rhenish, 2 7 / 8 dis. MANCHESTER, JUNE 22. S TO CK EXCHANGE. —The share market presented an im proved appearance to-day, and prices generally had a ten_ dency upwards. The transactions were as follow:—Bir kenhead, Lancashire, and Cheshire, Junction, 10 1 / 4 di.f.-- East Lancashire, 19- - itte, Prefererce, Quarters, 9%--- Caledonian, 21 5 / B —Lancashire and Yorkshire, 78 :I—Ditto, Fifths, 41/ 4 dis. —Ditto, Preference, 15 1 / 4 —London and North-Western, New Quarters, 6 p.—Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire, MlA—Ditto (No. 1), /0 ,"3—Ditto Prefer ence, 13 5-16—Midland, 71 1 %South-Eastern andu, pliv‘oivredrs..,.. 21 11-16—Kendal and Windermere, 12%—Great Northern, 23—Eastern Counties, 10 1 / 4 —York and North Midland, 25 Manchester and Birmingham (C) Quarters, 2 3-16 /3. _ North Staffordshire, 6 dis.—London Stock, 126—Shrews bury and Chester, 18 1 / 4 —North British, 8 1 4 . . lIIRMiNGIIAIa, JUNE 1:2. STOCK EXCHANGE. — The share market remains not onl y extremely firm, but there is a decided tendency hampton,The tra a a c n a d ct i Stour onsre v p oarltieedy, were—Birmingham, 10%—London r o M n d i D o g n h a a M n , ci \ N .ls, r o h r . tehr Western, 126—Shrewsbury and Birmingham (A), 81/2. I REL A ND: DUBLIN, JUNE 22.—The sale of the great Martin property in Connemara for 18 6,000/. was finally decided yesterday by the Encumbered Estates Commissioners. The circumstance that an offer to that amount was made became known a week ago, but the Commisioners took until this day to d e t erm i ne whether tbs.) , should accept nite,xotrmulolnowth,theaceesotradteintgo tobethsecaldavienralsoetnis advertisement. the The sub ject ject was discussed at great length t o -day before Chief Commissioner in chamber, n.nd deci sion arrived at was, that the offer of the ul timate w . 1 86 0 °1 ' a re n w o as w the cepted, and the Law Life Assurance Society are money, proprietors of this noble tract of country. company are however, is to be paid, incumbrancers to the extent of 200,000... inasmuch as ; he Tlie following D R ght Hon. John are the names of the trustees:—Tbiur-nit,r,Sir Edward 14th gf . Lord Campbell, Sir George James the par- Hall Alderson, and chasers, for 186,000/. t announced the fact The for Moil of last nigh. mittee of the House that the Consolidated Annuities In . ) ,p C° ' sion of the whole of rennS . of Lords has recommended the William Farr the noon e ‘. J expended on publi the famin e . ~ wor k s in Ireland during Ilex majesty an d prin ce Albert, attended b y th e Countess of Desart , the Hon. Lucy Kerr, Lord By, Major - General COUR T CIRCULAR. Ilex —Aajor-G,e o ne ral Buckley, and Colonel Bouverie, honoured the performance of the German Play with their presents last evening. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Rent, attended by Lady Fanny Howard and Sir George Cowper, also honoured the performance, with h e r Highness Albert, attended by presence. , Prince Hi s Royal Colonel Bouverie., was present yesterday morning at a bri ado field day in Hyde park at half-past eight o'clock. 4._ Roy al highness commanded the brigade, consist •"-": .Tti s tp u a s tt i a li l e io r n G eo uar ld d stre am Guards, the 2cl bat ing or , s, and a detachment of the tenon Soots Grenadier Guards. Royal dighnesa Prince Alb e rt, attended by Lord do i g R aL Y d. Colonel Bouverie, left Buckingham Palace at twen tr five minutes befor e fi ve o ' c lock yesterday after noon for the Tower of London. Their Royal Highnesses the Prince of Wales and Prince Alfred, attended by Mr. Gibbs, visited Mr. Gor don Cumnaing's African Exhibition yesterday morning. Their Royal Highnesses the Princess Royal and the attended P r incess Alice took a drive is an open carria ge an d four yesterday. Lord Byron has relieved Lord Crofcen in bit d u ti es aiting to Duchess he o r f M K a e j n e t s , ty. as Lord in Waiting to the Queen, and Sir Fred er i c k Stovin has relieved Major-General Berkeley D rummond in H hi e s r d ß ut o i N es ai as H G ig r h o n o e m ss the nW e by Baroness de Speth, went yesterday to the Old P on Richmond-green, and visited their Royal II • Igun alace esses the Duke and Duchess de Montpentier. A deputation from Boston, consistingof Boston, Sir John Trollope. tart. , hi ' P., Mr. Cabbell, M.P., and Mr. Fresh field, M , ho ,d . an interview with the Right Honourable J. W. if en l9 3's yesterday, at the Board of Trade. Dispatches were recpived at the Colonial office from the Governors of the West India Islands, yesterday. ----- q Ni THE ORLEANS PROPERTY. —Several - packages have arrived by a steame r from Boulogne, a dd res sed to his Royal Highness the Duke de Nemours and containing furniture and other articles, the property of the ea-Royal Family of France. The whole of the packages have been received bi the illustrious exiles At einem:mt. .EVENING, ~~