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- ' - _ U ' N. • n s i t'...90 1 • " 6 ": • 14 - :0 1' 144 a • I . 4 4 I /fa ' 7 , ; , %4X ` f st : • * , 7)10(4 NumBER 9653. SATURDAY, AUGUST 2, 1823. OOMPOSITION OF ASSESSED TAXES. NOTICE is hereby given, that by an Act lately passed, all Persons, duly ASSESSED for their TAXES for the present Year, may COMPOUND FOR THE SAME, fur the Term of Five Yews, on the Dwelling Houses, and of Four Years on the other Assessed Taxes enumerated in the Acts of Composition now in force, to continence from the sth day of April, 1828, on payment of an adaitional duty of Five Pounds per Centum. Persons may compoond for the Duties on Houses and Win dows, without compounding for the duties on the other As sessed Taxes, and vice versa. A'l those desirous to compound. must deliver notice of t: eir intention on or before the Ist day of September nest, agreeably to forms, which may be had on application to the Assessors or Collectors of the Parish in which they reside, or to the Surveyor of the District. By order of the Board, (Signed) E. BATES, Secretary. Office for Taxes, Somerset House, London, July 21, 1823. To Sail in all August, FOR MADRAS AND 11F.NGAL, T i E line fast-sailing Ship CUT DE, A I, 'Sing in the Cite Canal, liorthen 500 Tons, THOMAS DRIVEIt, Commander. Alka . - .as excellent Accommodations for Pasien *-- - gers, and trill carry a Surgeon. Fur Freight. or Passage, apply , to Messrs. it. SCOTT, FAIRLIE, and Co., to the Commander, at the .Tero,alem Cutler-horse, or to MISTER and HORSLEY, 11, Ledden hallonreet. IMPROVED ANTI-CORROSION PAINT. C. WATTS, Oil and Colourman, 209, . UPPER THAMES-STREET, respectfully informs the Nobility, Gentry, and Public, that he manufactures this particularly CHEAP and DURABLE PAINT, which is admitted, by those who have used it, to be the best covering for all exposed Works, as neither damp, rust, or marine acid can affect it. It is applicable AT ALL SEASONS, and will never blister or peel oft', as other paints. It is particularly adapted for painting' on Stucco or Roman Cement Fronts, Out houses, Wood or iron Bridges, Railings, Park Paling, An. chors, Barges, Boats, Garden Walls, Mills, Breweries, Paper Manufactories, Wagons, Covers for Corn and Hay Ricks, (it being preferable to '1 ar , as it never melts), Fanning Utensils, Iron Hurdles, anti all Propert y . exposed to the weather. This celebrated Composition, being in a powder, is strongly recom mended to Country Gentlemen, Farmers, &c. &c. not only for its cheapness and durability, hilt for the' facility of laying it on, which can be effected by any common labourer. 'lt is supplied in Casks of 100th. and 50th. each, of ANY COLOUR, with prepared Oil, and:proper Brushes, with Directions for use on each Cask. • Fine Gieen Paints, and all othei Colours, &c. - - FREEHOLD ESTATE, DEVON. TO BE SOLD. BY AUCTION, By Messra. MUNN and GURTIS, on WEDNESDAY, the 6th of August, at Twelve, at the AUCTION MART, London, - • -- • AFARM, called GAMONS HILL FARM, in the Parish of Rilatingston, and wear the capital Market Towns of Hbniton, Chard, Lyme, • and Axminster, great part of which is Freehold, the remainder held by Copy of Court Itoll, on Two healthy Male Lives, and is part of Prebendary Manor; belonging to the Cathedral Church of York ; comprising, - in the whole, nearly 100 Acres of excellent Meadow, Prtattre, and Arable Land, in a high state of culti vation, and Five Acres of well planted Orchard; with a corn-. sortable Farm-Muse and liomestead; in the oecnpation - of Mr. R. Dennett, a - yearly tenant, at . a reduced annual Rent of Two Hundred Pounds. May he viewed, with leave of the Tenant, of whom Parti culars may be had also, at the'New LoridOn'Tnn, - Exeter ; the Golden Lien, Iloniton • the George, Axminster ; the Three Cups, - Lyine Regis ; the George, Chard ; the Anwlope. Snerborn, at tlvi Auction Mart ; ana of Messrs. Munn :ilia Curtis, Watiroolt, near the. Itoyoi lExelmgc. BREC' C KS H IRE. RICH FREEHOLD FARMS in the Parishes of BRUNT LLYS, ABERLLI.INVY. LI.AI` , IDEVAYLOG-REte Y ORA IG, trod LL A NDEVAYLOGNACII, in the Vici nity of the County _Town of fiItECON.- • By , Messrs. MUNN and CURTIS, at the AUCTION MART, LONDON, on WEDNESDAY, the 6th August, at Twelve, in Four hots, unless previously disposed of by- Private Contract.* Lot 1. parAnwys FARM, situate in ,the JP Parish of Bruntllys, comprising about 158 acres of rich meadow,. pasture, arable,' and wood land, with suitable agricultural buildings, in the occupation of Mr. Ed ward Probert, et an annual t.eaticed rent of 150/. for an unex pired term of two years from the 29th of September next, with the exception of 42 acres of wood land, in hand, well planted with oak, to which description of timber the soil is peculiarly suited. This Farm, although judiciously cultiVated, is still capable of further improvement. On this lot thereis lime-stone of superior quality, which is peculiarly beneficial to the farm, and is in great demand in the neighbourhood. Lot 2. BRYN-Y-GROES, situate in the parishes of Brunt -4s and Aberllunvy, comprising about 94 acres of rich mea dow, pasture, arable, and wood land, with suitable farm buildings, in the occupation of Mr. Edward Probert, at an an. nual reduced rent of 951., for an unexpired term of two years from the 28th o f. Septemer next: Lot 3. C WR-Y-GA RE and T I R-Y-P RIOR Farms, situate in the parishes of Llanwern and Llandevaylog, comprising togeth er a b out 125 acres of excellent pasture, amble, and wood land, with a Farm House and aropriate farm buildings, with the exception o f 21 acres of wood land, in the occupation of 3lr. ThornasAlorris, for an unexpired terns of two years, at an annual reduced rent of 80/4 the wood land is in hand. Lot 4. SYCH-PANT FARM, Situate in the parish of Llandevaylog-Vach, comprising about 95 acres of excellent pasture, arable; and wood land, with a Farm House and ap propriate agricultural buildings in good repair, in the occupa tion of Mr. Th omas Probert and' Mr. Howell, Davies, yearly tenants, at annual reduced rent of 551. The picturesque situation of this lot ren d ers i t s i ngularly attractive for the erection of a villa. The tithes and taxes of every description on the above farms are very moderate, and their proximity to the county town of Brecon, the Hay, and Hereford, renders the occupation pecu liarly eligible—Land-tak redeemed. May be viewed with leave of the tenants, and particulars had of Thomas Bold, Esq. Brecon; Charles (label' Esq. Crick-, Dowell ; Messrs. Boynt on an d S on , Solicitors, (label', ; Henry .Mant, Esq, Solicitor, Bath; Mr. William 'Walker, Solicitor, 69, Hatton-rden, 4ondon.i. the Bush Tavern, Bristol ; New Inn, Herefor ga d . Bell, Gloucester ; Plough, Cheltenham ; King's Head, Newport ; Bell, Cardiff ; at the Auction Mart; and of Messrs. Munn and Curtis, Walbrook, near the Royal Eichange, London. WlllyW WELCH'S FEM ALE PILLS hare obtained the sanction and approbation of Gen. lie n" of the Medical Profession, es a sate and valuable Medicine, in rettioving olistruetions, and 'aliening other inconveniences to which the female frame is liable, especially those which at an early period of life frequently arise from want of exercise, and general debility of the systrtn. They create an appetite, am rect indigestion, 'remove giddiness and nervous brad hchr, 14 d ogre in windy dis orders, pains in the stumuch s stitirtniss of breath, and palpi tations of the heart. nu -chasers are reptested to remark, that, a► a testimony of authenticity, ynch Bill of Directions is sigticti with the t ztamo of (7 /7 ~t ti n g s o ld.wholesale and Retail, in London, by Wright; Ni,. 40, Fleet..street ; Barclay and sons, Fleet Market ; New_ hery and Sons, St.:Paul's Church Yard ; Sutton and Co. Bow Church Yard ; gauger, 850, Oxford -street. o pp os i te Rood slreet ; Kraus and Snit, Long Lane, Smithfield ; Johnston, creek-street, Soho; Butler stud Sons; Glieopside; Godfrey nttilWindos; Bisbopsgate-streets and by all Count ry Vendtrs, sit 91. 9d per Box. 7 4 . It is necessary to inform the pnhlic that K EA lI.SLEY'S ;$ tie o il y ori g i na l an d genuine Medicine, and has been pre pared by Om fur more than thirty years, i` h ~~/__/ ~~ .~ ~_~~ DISTRESS IN IRELAND. The adjourned • Meeting on Mr. OWEN'S Plans fur relieving the Distress in Ireland took place yesterday at the City of London Tavern.' Since the former meeting the subject teemed to have excited'great attention, as the room yesterday was crowded by . a highly respectable company, .among whom we remarked a great many Irish Gentlemen of character, and the platform was graced by the presence of several beautiful and well-dressed Ladies. I'Ve noticed the Ct' aintess of Glen gall and others connected With the leading families in Ireland; and also Mrs. Wheeler, the Misses Wheeler, Airs. Hamilton (of Mizell), Miss Ramsay, Mrs. Dr. Pinckard, Misti Pinckard, - and a -great number df Ladies in the body of the Meeting, amongst whom were many of the Society of Friends. • Mr. Ott FN took the Chair •at one o'clock, and Was received with marked applause. He then addressed the Meeting to the. following'effcci t ....... .. . - The meeting *lt ith was helithere on Titesday last to consider a plan which I have matured for the relief the Irish peasantry and working classes generally, was adjourned to Thursday, but in consequence of this room having been previously engaged, -it became necessary to hold it on this day. The sanne , reasons Which induced me to- fill the chair -on .Tuesday e ,apply with equal tarce en the present occasion. Some of the newspapers contain remarks respecting the abience of many of my friends, Members of the Legislature, who, on farmer occasions, have given their countenance and support to the plan, while, in other papers, the writers have been so kind as to make the best apology that occurred to them. It is, perhaps, only necessary' to say, that these Gentlemen have left town some time ago, otherwise, I have no doubt, they would all have been pre.. sent, along with many others, Members of Parliament, who now feel an increased interest in the measures which I re commend, because they are better acquainted with the sub ject. It is also Awe that I did not solicit the attendance of any persons who are . deemed to .be public charaaters, and I purposely avoided doing so, because one and all of them' -belong conspicuously to some class, sect, and pray, and it has always been my most anxious desire to keep my proceedings distinct from the views of any of these, but more particularly at the late. Meeting, when I publicly declared my intention to advocate an essential change of the present system of society. In pursuing a measure which involves so many important con siderations in its consequences, I could not desire any of - my' more. distinguished friends to give it their eupport, until it was, fairly placed before the public in such a manner as to enable them to form an accurate judgment of it, both in its detail and. extent, in its principle and practice. It is nought thing for an' individual to conic forward and say to the world, ". I have at tentively considered the state of society which has grown out of the past transactions or mankind, and I deem it to be erroneous - in principle and injurious in practice, and utterly incompatible With the. attainment - of the desired ob,jects of human life,.". The individual who can make up his mind so to act, takes a responsibility upon himself the most awftil that the hunian mind can contemplate: Ile opposes himself to the whitlow or • the prejudices of all his - predecessors and cotemporaries, and be undertakes to prove the truth of the Prineiples which he advocates: and the error of all those Which have heretofore ob tained. If he fail, he must be content to be considered,a-weak visionary, or a dangerous innovator, and,he becomes amenable to society for all the evils Which his condlie7t may produee. Th whole might of this hazardous responsibility I have bag been prepared to take upon myself;. but in propOrtion to its magnitude and: danger, am I' anxious .that no indil ideal should share it with in'e It was-on this account that I did not ask any of MY friends to he•preeent on the last. day of- our Meeting, and any • of them who may be present on this occasion, I must cxonerato from any favour, in my peculiar thoughts- and vi ews . Personal favour , and friendship for the individual' can.be of i little il.rtiek in- the cause • which I have -undertaken.- 1 .- am directly opposed- to what appear to me the - errors of all putt ges. - I must in consequence be opposed by the World ;,anli inthat case, if my cause rest not tiport a rock, which th'eatnited prejudices of • unmkiud• Cannot shake, of whet-avail can be l;u: s'irppert of a few hundred or thousand friends ? No; Oils 131/ject: has been fbr some dine fur ronoved above any indiVi dual ,fitiour or - affection, and at the last Meeting it was eneried far, - Iseyttnit the-snoport of any particular class, -meet,- party, or . country'. It has now gone tOrtit into other lands to encounter other preiudives besides those which are around us. It belongs now to the world, and the world nmst decide as hi its truth or falsehood,- its good or evil tenderniet. I, tlierefore,'standalone in... this cause,' and depend upon no human aid whatever; still less do I-rely upon any - power which I--can. call ray own: Illy sole dependance is upon the truth and justice of , cause which ' I espouse; but the faculties to discern theae, 1 m de not, nor do I kilo* how they were finened within me; Or yet did I combine -those powers, and circuinstandes, i i wide t have eo far fitted 'vie fbr the task I have ender taken, or which have given Me the resolution to come before' you this day, without the slightest fear of what ' man can do against me. • These things are far above Me ; far beyond what my faculties enable me to comprehend ; and -before I can know more, other powers must he given inN or more extended' facts . thust be acquired by einerionee. - For the possession :of what has been thus given 'me,'" claim no merit whatever; and for the deficient el• myleetilties, knowledge,' and , experience, • I take to myself no demerit. I, -therefore, come not befhie you with any personal pretensions of - any kind ; I lock not.to have a name among you, 'either now or hereafter. Popularity and fame. are with me mere , sounds, inconvenient to listen to while we remain in the world, and in my mind of no .Poesible value, when we are removed out Of it. The power which formed limas I am and placed me amitlat the circumstances in which I have existed, has imparted to me a 'conviction stronger than I have language'to express, that I can relieve my fellow creatures froth the poverty, and miSery, and degradatiou which they have so long experienced, and that impulse I must steadily obey until the great work to which it is urging me forward' shall be accomplish ed throughout society. At our former Meeting, several well meaning individuals . presented themselVes to advocate some favourite plans of their own ; I was then, as I trust I ever shall be, unwilling to hurt the feelings of any one, and I allowed them to proceed; but to-day I must request all who speak, to confine themselves strictly to 'the subject of the Meeting, that the time of those present may not be unnecessarily occupied.. - That no one may misunderstand what the business - of the day is, it may be necessary to state, that it is to consider a plan, which, after much study and reflection, and more than thirty years of extensive experiment, I recommend to be adopted for the relief of the • working classes, and of Society .. gene. rally ; and more particularly; from having lately spent nearly eight months in Ireland, fbr the purpose •of investigating its situation, • I recommend it 'to be immediately applied, upon a large scale, to that country, as the only means which can now be adopted with any hopes of success, to give produc tive-employment to the - people, and to relieve them from the evils arising from religious dissensions, by removing the cause from which they all originated, and which, while it shall he al lowed to remain, must continue to generate diem. : I also stat ed the !wane bby which the plan might be carried into 'exeCu tion. Those who speak, thereftwe, on the present occasion, are • requeSted to keep those in view, and to bear in mind that we are not met to consider any other plan hut this. - It is also requested that those only will occupy the time of this Meeting who have studied the subject before us—who have employed the requisite means to make thennielyes, at least in some de gree, masters of the principles, and the practic a l arr a ngeMents which we are about` to consider and discuss. And still further to prevent misconception respecting those principles and ar rangements, allow me shortly to re-state what they are.. It is submitted, I. That the character of man is chiefly form -ed by the circumstances in which he may beplaced, and prin cipally and essentially by the geographical circumstances of his birth. . .. _ 2.rhat it is therefore most to be t le % i re d t h at t h ose w h o di rect the affairs of mankind. should be well informed respecting the influence which those'circumstances which they have the power to remove or replace, have, over the well-being and hap: pines* of their fellow.ereatures. 3. That one of the most unfavourable circumstances that has ever influenced the conduct of mankind, is the notion that any individual can have merit or demerit for the particular opinions given to him. 4. That the first step requisite to produce real virtue in so ciety, is to withdraw that error from the human mind; and as every fact that has ever beeti known to the human race proves it to be tut error, It will be true wisdom now to reject it. .5. That by Its rejection the means would b e i mme di ate ly i n our power to withdraw all fwger and irritation from society, and to introduce peace, real charity and kindness throughout the world. • . _ O._ That the chief obstacle would also be thus removed, to the .combination in practice, or all those circumstances which are best calculated to improyc the &erecter of all Ininviduqs,. • and aro most favourable to the creation and enjoyment of wealth. n _ 7. That the arrangements which are proposed, have been specially devistsl with the view to exchule whatever the past has proved to be injurious, and include whatever experience has demonstrated to be beneficial. 8. That, in cattsequence, it becomes necessary that the op. ponents of this plan should- show in what respeetthese'practical measures t►re likely to fail in any of the important objects re. (erred to. _ I have now also to add, that although it appears to nie to be erroneous in principle, and highly ,pernicious mpractice, to at tribute merit or to attach demerit to the opinions of individuals when the will has no power whatever in the formation of those, opinions, yet I cannot regard. all opinions wet equal value; I must estimate them according to their. truth or . falsehood, or their consistency or inconsistency with each other, and with all those facts with which experience hal; snide us acquainted. It is, therefore, the opinioos solely, of which I approve - or - disprove; I do not condemn the individuals who have been made to entertain - them t file Ott*l eadfe,.el only . allection or compassion. Aud farther.; ttar as the Mere opinions of men can have no influence whatever upon mat ters of eternity, no man, or set of men, can, by saying that there is, or that there is not, a future state, establish the truth of the one or the other proposition. Nor do I think, according; to the prim' Iles which I have advanced, that one particle more of merit or demerit belongs to the individual, whether he adopt the one or the other. 'l'o my own principles I attriteute no more merit or demerit than Ido to those of other men. As a human being whose will has no power over his opinions, I can • only state, with reference to this subject., that the facts impress ed upon my Mind compel me to believe, that after death we shall eternally exist, but in what state or fbrin I am unable, front want. of adcliiional .facts, to do more' titan' con jecture ;- but sure I am, if the Supreme Rul er o f the tini. verse be infinitely wise, powerful, and just, that not one of Ili shall exist under eternal punishment; nor is it neces sari, as it appears to me, that we should longer f r i g ht en t h ose intellects that have been made weak and irrational,. with any such error. For the time is near when the world will no longer be governed by uncertain precept, but by unerring practice ; and not by fear, but by love. This declaration having been made, that the world may not uselessly dispute about any sup. posed speculative Opinions of mine, which are of no - more real value than those of any other man possessing equal- experience, let us new proceed to the regular businew of the day, not with a desire to gain a victory over any individual or party, but with a sincere and honest intention to elicit truth, and to benefit our suffering fellow-creatures. - This Address was received with great applause. Mr. Ova r. 'then said lie would, with pennission of' the Meeting, withdraw the former Resolutions, which were merely declarations., and pmpose a new series more practical. lie then read the. following* Resolutions :- 1.. That, as it has now- been stated by an experienced, disin terested individual, that lie has devised new arrangements, by which I,ooo.persona, inclUding the usual average of all ages, can produce by. their labour, properly directed, millicient to , -maintain themselves. in comfort, and to support two thousand Moro ~ttlis Alectingrecominend to his Majesty's flevernment to advance 60t tt(any funds at their.disposal.thr. ,thc employ- Anent Of the poor,'lni adecpla , .e sum or sums of money, at or 4 per cent, interest, for the purpose of trying one experiment, in England; Scotland, and Ireland, but snore especially in the Latter cutintry, oft the plan proposed by Mr, Uwett,, upon. con. tine p4ment nit, rest and the repayment of ►prin bail,lint,4sit:ll4-.)"l2:ittori.l7.lon the lands to he purchased, and the Nei erected, for 4he purpose of carrying such elope. '2. Tin: Grace the'lhike of LeinitiCr, General Sir Jelin .floy le, -and JI4In Salida If.eq., A .P. be requested to submit the above; apiAiration.te his Majesty'it Governmeet., Zl• That a Qinithiittee be appointed to report the result of this apPlientlen tethe Public 1. Tina-the above Noblemen tun' Gentlemen, with the Sub iber* to the Loaneforeinstituting the, experiment at Ai:alter. hellie.„ CoMinittee, with power to add to their number, anti that INC be a. otnatunt. Alr. °wine then. further ,oleterectl, that just before he had entertNi the room a .note had been pitrinto his hands, .evidently written b r person of intelligence se veral. inquiries, licit he would answer. ' Containing The first gees ifoe 'related to the profit likely to accrue from the proposed investment of capital. It was not customary for own of Mt sirresa to auto their' prOlits, but as he had na commercial secrets, be had no hesitation in declaring that during twenty- Tour years of experience at New Lanark, the result had been, after paving the interest et' capital, 5 per cent., half yearly; to letive a vereefeir, fell, and Mend profit. Ile could enure the Aleeting that the other partnere would readily give a bonus to have the Concern wholly to themselves. He could scarcely speak more decidedly as to ite com m e rc i a l success. Its wou ld a l so state, in explanation, that during t h e greater part of diet time the hours of labour for the working people had been fewer than in any establishment of a similar kind. Tin within the last four or five years it was not tarequent for' their competitora to work their people fourteen, fifteen, and' even sixteen' hours a day, vrhile the establishment at New lateark had never worked the persons in its employ more than eleven hours a day, ..and during the hit five or six years only atai houra.--(Applauke.)-41e mentioned this as no recom mendation of themselves; experience had taught them that moderate labour was not more necessary or profitable to the labourer himself than to his employer. The labour of nine hours daily - would enable hint to produce more, and sup port himself at much less expenee, because he would be In better health. It was proper also to add, that during this whole period, the Whole of the rising populetion of New Lanark had been educated in a manner very far superior to that in which the • children of the wor kin g c l asse s were edit catetl in any part of the world. This education had cost the proprietors not less than 700/. iv year; yet even in a com mercial" point of view they had never expended a shilling, that had produced so many valuable Testae. When the pro, fits were talked of, it was .proper to take all these circuits. stances into consideration. Still, however, the establishment litul left a full and fair profit to all concerned. The writer of the note tepoke of the proposed low) as sort of charitable do. nation. Novi, if for one moment he (Air. 0.) considered it ne cessary to ask for one shilling for, the new arrangements as charity, he would regard them r_ of no value. No circumstance supplied matter for more melancholy reflection than to know that there were thousands and tens of thousands, of our fellow. subjects in England, supported by charitable donations. The poor rates were a system of the most degrading pauperism, while there were facts before the eyes of the public calculated to prove irresistibly that the capital now wasted in maintaining every I 000Paupersit tight. by being placed tinder regulated and orderly circumstances, not only Kustain abose persons in comfort, but create a surplus to siipport 2000 more. Was there any kind of common-sense in the present mode of proceetllrtg as to the poor I , With respect to the calculations to which lie had ad verted at the former Aleeting, he would beg: leave to remark, that they were three distinct calculations, very accurately and carefully made, after spentl,hig several months in Ireland, col lecting the facts on winch they were founded. Air. Owen then stated in detail the principles on which he had proceed e d i n making the calculations. He had made them, not as a theorist, but as an old experienced roan of businees, able to to make al. lowance for all the. draWbecks that might reason a bl y b e ex pected. At the present prices of agricultural pr o d uce , he wciieircenicontipltehtnet, in n capital I or of r t t en years, when the arr angements . would yield an annual it produce of 30,0004 These. calculetions were made an. A t average soil, but there Wag no land . that would m afford - a very ahtn profit. [At this peei n a, by ili: ()wen's directions at representation of one of his vil. }ages was tinfcdded.l . With respect to the formation of charecter, he had alreatlyallstinctly stated, thet wilt tedno power over oPiition. This doctrine did not, in the stnellest degree, affect the truth or falsehood of religion. He said nothing ea to any of the current religions ' but he would stew, that am ieelt axe error was current, the world must be involved ire di sorder.— The first step towards the introduction of peace- and , good order wee to impress on the minds of men that n o intlivi dual was entitled to assunte that his opinions were eaperier to those of others, or that he could by possibility bevel( pa r ti c l e at' merit for those given to him.--(Annlause.)—lt was h ue portant to know h ow opinions were formed ; and, therefo re , perhaps, the Meeting would excuse him fur dwellin g on t h e topic. When an infant came into the world, it was manifest that be had no 'time. It was equally evident that h e could have no will in deciding in what part tit the world he should receive his bird', whether in Europe, Asia, Africa, or America,— Wherever an individtial was born, if he remained there, lie won't! receive all the early impressions of that particular gen graphical situation. Had any person in that meeting been con. veyed, like a gentleman who bad spoken on the former ix:elution (Mr. Ifunter), among the American tribes, would he nut hav'e acquired their language; their sentiments, their feelings, and their character? Was there. one of them, who, under these circumstances, would not have followed the chace, and scalped their enemies ? Vet in consequence of retraining where they were, what a difference was there in the character, counte. !lance, and complexion, which they all possessed ! Re was astonished, or, to speak corre ct ly, h e wou ld h ave been - asto. nished; if he had been ignorant of the subject, that the world proceeded so long without discovering a truth so ob abvioQtutsi.ditilve e now come to the last question. If it was true that the character of Mankind seas formed/ter them, and not by them, it was highly important to know what and who should form their characters. Which of all the religious sects or parties should they fix upon tbr that purpose? If they would agree on that point, he would go as far with them as they pleased. In his opinion, it was highly unjest that any parties Atonic! attempt to force the con. science of any individual. His own praedee hitherth had been, to leave all persons at perfect liberty to follow the sect in which they were trained, or which their riper judgment had adopted. It was the professed wish of all parties that their children should know the best principles, and follow the most beneficial prae ticee. Were children capable of judging of those principles and practices ? He wished to enable then, to obtain some ex perience before he forced uncertain precepts on their mind.-a But though that was his oWn opinion, he was aware how wna. ciously parents in general claimed the right of early iniehiting., certain religious notions into the Minds of their ehildren, and therefore he should conceive it a kind of despotism if be had compelled them to bring up their children contrary to their own conscientious feelings. Having explained his own views, sentiments, and practice, regarding education, and it was a subject of the highest possible importance to mankind, be would proceed to explain the representation displayed betbre them. The buildings on the right and left in the centre, were intended for the education of the children f r om the age of two years to twelve or fourteen. There were many then present who witnessed the extraordinary effects of ed uca ti on on very young children. The arrangements he recommended were not mere theory, but the result of 30 or 40 years' experience. Ile had no wish to be accounted the founder or inventor of them. He cared not by whom the people at large were enabled to en joy that health, comfort, and happiness, which were their un. doubted, right. He begged pardon for detaining the meeting at setth length, but he should be happy to give any other explana tion which might be required.—(applause.) A, person from the body of the nteeting wished to know' from Mr. Owen whether the extract from a periodical publication which he held in his hand was correct ? (The pamphlet was handed up to Mr. Owen.) . Mr. Owner said he was extremely obliged to the geutleman wife had called his attention to that publication ; it referred to some late transactions in the Genera! Assembly of Scotland, in which, by thopiesbytery of Lanark, lie had been acc us ed of withdrawing the Scriptures from the schools in his establish-. ment. Ile was aware of all the secret movements connected with that proceeding. 'lt arose' from the minister of Old La nark. He (Mr. Owen) had been at New Lanark now nearly twenty-four years. When he went there lie found a population selected from the dregs of the Lowlands of Scotland, more de moralized than any he Weyer seen. He was an entire ,stranger to them, and was, of course, supposed to be a cotton Manutac tore? anxious only to extract thelast shilling. lie dill'ered wait them in country and in religion. Every prejudice . was against him. Ilaving then the same principles and VlO , lB as at present, he felt a real concern for their condition, and he was determined to try the experiment in which he ed sinee'SO eminently succeesled. For some yeats.lie could make no see sible progress. At length it happened that an embargo was laid on the ports of Xtnerica, and in consequence the raw mate rial of his manufacture advanced to so extraordinary a height, that he judged it impolitic to, use it. 1k therefore mopped the works. At that time there were 1;500 or 1,600 persons em ployed, and wageS were then at the highest ; but instead of dis charging them, he kept them foe months, and paid them their full wages. The whole amount was about 7,0001. Even in a pecuniary point of view, never was a RUM *ended more beneficially.--(atpplanee.)—elfterwards they listened to him with more attention ; he was then enabled to commence his new System, and step by Step witlidraw 'the unfaeouralile eireurn. stances which surrounded them, and introduce others in, their stead. After at foy years, when they had experienced the be. neflt of the change, their minds were prepared' to go forward mere rapidly-than he had changes to give •thena eV thus re moving all the bad habits of the population, he hoped to have gained the goad-will of all parties ; but as part of these changes was to put an end to the habit or drunkenness, it tidlowect that the publie.house keepers thond their custom reduced ; and as he instituted a place for the dale of better and cheaper provisions than could be obtained in the cominoo market, it also followed that those who kept provision shops touted their trade fall tee and he was sorry to say, that he believed the great change had produced had had a bad edict rm. thin minister of the parish.---(llear, hear, hear !)—Since that period, he had watched the progress of New Lanark as a cat watched a mouse. Ile had publicly found fault with a tl stra d tr as inc a li n v a idi n tal ot , b w y ho wo e n nl s hAo l u ,a ret tig l h t t o rr h a nt i ev a e pi te u ' world He (Mr. Owen) was not ignorant of the secret measures „ adopted to circulate every false report respecting New Lanark ; pet,' as he could not experience anger towards any imßviduel, lie had, allowed the rumours to which he had now alluded, to pass by him, " like the idle wind ;" and if lie had not been publicly charged with wishing to remove the Scriptures front. the schools of NeW Lanark, by the Presbytery of Lanark, urged forward by the individual whom he had mentioned, he would have forbome from taking the slightest notice o f the rumour now. Mr. Owen th en re a d the extract by which it appeared dint the Presbytery of Lanark hoof applied to the General Assembly of the Scotch Church, respecting :the removal of the Scriptures from the schools at New Lanark, and that the Synod had directed the Presbytery to take adVice. The result, continued Mr. Owen, is extremely' good, for I sitseerely believe that T never knew a set of men , who more wanted advice.—(baugjiter.)—Nothing is in general more completely puerile than the personalities current in so. ciety. They are quite beneath the notice of any rational being ; but with regard to the Presbytery of Lanark, the time is poet when they ought to bring forward their claims to superin tend the practice of any school. If there in any law now 'existing, that gives the General Assembly such an authority, it is high time that that law should be repealetL From the commencement of my proceedings in . that estebliehment, the Scriptures have been regularly and systematically read in these schools. I never had an idea of withdrawing thena—(Ap. plause.)—Be apt deceived,l have not had an idea of withdrawing them, not because I had no doubt of th e prop r i e ty o f w i t hd raw . ing them, but because 1 wished every individual to bring up his children exactly as he pleased. My conviction is that the Scrip tures is. not the best book to put into tire hands of young children, (apPlanse) but because Tam desirous of paying respect to all con. R I C il l e a n v e e e s h , e l ar n d e vale a so avvea,rll variety y e v o er f o w t i h l er lev r i e d p id or ra ts w a t t h c e utted m.(A rri tl :t u ot s h e e . r ) channels : I disregard them all. 'the diets are open to the : world atiNew Lanark.• For many years I have submitted thent to the examination of natives and , foreigners- - -rieh and poor— men of every class, sect, and party, who chose to take the trouble of inspecting them. Every visitor might remain there a day, a week, or a month, and examine its minutely as he Oleased. Ido not say too much when I assert, that at this hour there does not exist a more moral or religious set of people in this empire, than the. inhabitants of New Lanark—(ap(ileome) —.nor is there anywhere the same number of children, with the. same good dispositions and habits, and with the same high and useful in tell igenee..—(Applause.) Another person requested Mr. Owen to explain a passage in a pamphlet written by Mr. Abraham Comber respecting tint absence of religious instruction at the- establialuneut at New Lanarkt Mr. Owiils . observed that the pamphlet was composed with. out his knowledge. The inhabitanta of New lama* were Christians, and very sincere Chili:ilium). He repeated he had. made no aVentpt to withdraw the Sceiptatres front thoschools. Dr. NVetatien e who-obtained the attention of the company, after some oppoenion. He observed that it was an app a lli ng thing for him to meet so many English faces, lint he was promptedur go on by the strong feeling he had upon this sub.. sect.. He lived in a country which was the most heavily taxed m the world, and his opinion was,- that it was necessary we• should, by the superioe old ofmachinery tax, the rest of the world' in return. But, were was this philinuhrepist who opposed the extensive use of machinery. . . • ' Mr. OWEN rose to eider. lie assured thein that his meats score directly the reverse. His opinion was, that if we had made a proper use of the improvements', in the arts told sciences, the labouring classes would not be called upon to work more than one hour a day, and would then gain far mere fired than they mould possibly onetime to their advantage. Me, Ai tibia then Tose. Haviog endeavoured, et the last Meeting, to eater into.. an explanation and defence of Mt- Owen's views, he had employed his few. hours. , of leisurereince the last Meeting to reduce to writing what he now wished to say fully on that subject. Mr. Mudie then commenced tho . perusal of a written address of tanutiderable length, for which purpose he resumed his seat behind a. table on which senile pieces of coloured wood were displayed. Mr. Evaxs rose to order., He understood that the object of . this Meeting was t o a pply to Government for assistance t o carry Mr. O wen 's plans into effect: lie vita sorry to interrupt the gentleman, b u t hi s a dd ress see m e d to b e wholly irrelevant to that object. • Mr. 'Mum E contended that he was in Order, 'as be was ob . viating objections which had been advanced against Mr. Owen's plan. Mr. Down: Wished to know what time Mr. Mudit intended to occupy ? Several gentlemen observed that the written address of Mr. Mudie did not scent to be in immediate connection with the business of the Meeting, and Ought' therefore to be closed. Mr, Trt tart r submit-tad that Alt. MUdie's address was only a reply to Mr. Mahon, and that as he had had one reply at the former meeting, this second edition WleMost inekular—( 11 ear l) A fter sem e observa t ion it flint Mr. Crooke and Mr. Henderson, Mr. awns' requested the meeting to allow 31r. Mudie short- 1y to explain. Mr. 'Muni E regretted the interruntion be bed experienced'. lie would now, however,-pass over th e :largemass of the paper he had to read,! and explain the coloured pieces of wood before him. Be employed theM for a sensible representation of the whole population of the country. The pieces in the centre weie intended to represent the King and the lloyal Family in the inner circle were the nobility and land-owners ;' in the outer circle were comprehended most of the parties in that room.— (Laughter.) He meant capitalists, fundhoblers, manufacturers, merchants, clergy, the liberal professions, the army and navy, in short all the classes below the landowners and above the labourers and paupers, who were represented by the pieces in each earlier. Mr. Caxszom said the speaker was throwing over the solem nity of the meeting the appearance of a mere farce. lie ren dered it perfectly ridiculous. Mr. You sro wished the proeeedings to be brought into is train of order. The proposal of petitioning Parliament should be put, and he trusted would be carried unanimously.-4Ap- Mr. Al U'DIE said he would withdraw. Mr. EvaNs thought that joint. stock' communities, such at. Mr. Owen wished to establish, could not legally exist, unless they obtained from Parliament a corporate character, giving them pOwer to sue and to be sued. Mr. 0 w EN•observed, that the objection , which bad been started by the Gentleman who, spoke lust had been fully tannii dered„ and it was ascert a in e d th at t h ere we r e many .ways in which the difficulty which he anti c ip a t e d m i g h t be obv i ated. 'A Gentleman, whose name we could not learn, suggested that' the poor-ratex might be advantageously devoted to the establish ment of societies on Mr. Os'en's plan. Mr. Go u 'MAY merely rose fbr . the 'purpose of entering his protest, in the name of the paupers and labourers of England, against the abominable triflings of the meeting. Mr. P. LEE spoke in favour of a plan which he held to Its very superior to Mr. Owen's scheme, that of Mr. Nowlang, which had been tried at Kilkenny which provided for a reit.. ghats estalkshment, and which did not separate parents front children, and brothers from sisters--(" Neither- does that of MT. Owen," was remarked by several Gentlemen.)—lie promeded to vindicate the doctrine of rewards and punishmente. hereafter, and to controvertthe principle that the will had no power over the opinion of en individual. Mr. BOWIE denied that there was any thing hi the plan of" 2.111. Owen which went to withhold 'from his fellOw.creaturis • the consolations of religion. • Ile defended the genetalprinci ples on which the plan was founded, than which nothing could mote happily illustrate the Words of Scripture, " Behold how pleasant it is for brethren to live together m tommunity." lie considered it to embody all that was amiable and desirable ; and if the plan of Mr. NoWland was to be compared 'Ali ir, that.plan Ought not to have been garbled, brit ought to have been brought fully before-the Meeting. A GE NVI.E SAX wished the plan to be tried; but thought it would be better tried by means ofthe benevolence of the British public tbaln connection with Government int4rference. It appeared to him .practicable be' Geeopying paupers on waste, lands wannibilatepoors' rates. . lie douhc.ai the _.proprletf.of making any applioation at 01l to (;overnment. Mr. CummrNit:considered the plot Of Itr. Owen Want-co in`_ wive all classes of Soefety, and by s,) hi volving them, to stiff, vert all the existing dis tibctions- Ile objocttt .to the proposed appeal to the Governuicot and the 1,0,1;ot:re in sto Tort or the plan. .1f it could not flourish Without aid from the t;overn.. Ment and the. Legislature, it ought to: perish. Another bent :man, whose name ..was .. not announced, re cotnniended the appointment of - a Committee to c on s id e r t h e Plan,' and the Iwacticahility of .itilindinit• relief to those 0 Ittbr, -tunate individuals who hia.been thrOwn our of employment by the improvements in machinery. . . Mr. Owpi stated the cottage system to be no longer prac , ticable front the extended and increasing use of machinery..—. Mr. Nowland's plan had been brought forward in opposition to his. lie was intimately acquainted with the establishment, which hat) been Nmed at Kilkenny. Mr. Nowland was Welt known to him, and it was from him (Mr. Owen) that that ilea.. Homan had obtained the information on which he had acted; in fotruing . his establishment, which it wa s admitted on all hands had compleiely changed the character of . the n'eighbourhood. It was said that his plan w en t t o t a k e t h e child , from the parent, the brother from the sister. Quite the contrary; it went to keep theta more constantly together than was done by any existing system. r. nowt:nary exposed the fallacy of some of the argument 9 opposed to Mr, Owens plan, 'and spoke in favour of making some effort to afftird relief to the people of Ireland. The question being put on the Resolutions, every hand was up in favour of them but two. After passing a vote of thanks to. Mr. Owen, the Meeting separated. FINE A RTE.—We understand the sum of 15,0001. has Wily been offered, , as a private bid., ding, for the celebrated picture by- Sebastian de Piombo, of Christ raising Lararus, in the Anger stein Gallery, but that not hqs than 15,000' guineas would he a:cepted. It is supposed that the Wading wus made on behalf of Mr. Be eltforri t the late proprietor of Fonthill, and rejected. principally from a conviction that tin' larger smut will be obtained front the King. of France, who is known to be extremely desirous of embelildt. hie his collection with this chef d'ertore. The' following interesting notice of the work is given in Young's Catalogue of the Angerstein Gallery, lately published, according to report, under the' directions of Sir Thomas Lawrence :—" Car dinal Giulio de Aledice,- afterwards Clement VII., for whom Raphael painted the Trans figuration, being desirous of presenting an al tarpiece to the Cathedral at Narbonne, etiguged Sebastian de Piornbo to execute a' work of the same dimensions as the Tr ansfivrtaion, lecting for his subject The Resurrection 4 - 11 *arcs. The composition of this grand picture was entirely the work of Michael Angelo, rind' the execution of, the figure of Lir...woo 4 fejt els the chance of cvrry other hand.' fiefore this. celebrated picture was sent to Narbonne, it was exhibited at Rome, in competition with the lust work arid the clitfitheuvi e of Raphael, and ex cited universal admiration. It was afterwards placed in the Orleans collection by the R e g en t of France, and subsequently purchased from the proprietor by Mr. Angerstein," \Ve may t ,k, this °ppm tunity of stating, that it is rep or t e d th e pres..nt Angerstein feels most desirous to re!« taut leis lather's ehoirr collection of paintingii.eft t ire in h i s own possession, but is C0(010411410 dispose of them under the provisions of the wi '47' . Pm( SEyENptgag.