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wh;ch they were engage& Neither should • ,,i , ;s over the achievement accotnplished un :it-r Gvti s tf, Spain, he regretted i e eply that her efforts, though marked by the enet saying that, he was so eager to cOnviet, as " to anti !cipate the guilt" of any person. Sir F. BURI)ETT said, he was informed that the Judge alluded to, advised the points intended tot de fence to be reserved, in order to be pleaded in mi . tigation Of penishment. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said, that if in the mind of his Lordship they appeared to be such as could only go in mitigation, there wai no impro priety in the suggestion. Sir F.-Bun/me' replied, that the case did not admit of such an excuse, - as the suggestion .was given before the evidence was stated to hilt Lord ship. Mr. PONSONBY said, that with regard to the vote he should give, both on the Address and the Amendment, he was precisely in the same situation with his Hon. Frieed (Mr. Whitbread)., who had declared himself necessitated to vote against bob. The, Address of the Noble Loid appeared to him to be more properly the business of this day. To that Address, therefore, he should confine his observa tions. The principal topics of the Speech Might be reduced - to four. The first was, the providing for the dignity and comfort of his Majesty's Royal Person. Ueon that subjea, though he was willing to go as far as- any man for his Majesty's accotn modation generally,. he was yet anxious to reserve to himself en opinion on the details. The next re lated to the affairs of Spain and. Portugal. No man was more willing to acknowledge the bravery of the troops anti Generals employed in those countries than he was, but he could not bring_himselfe`te vote for whatever supply his Majesty's Ministers might ;hint: proper to conduel the war. This was too ide a subjea to be discussed 'in an Address. They -- musc allecei proud of the army.which had upheld and maintained the honour of the British name; but to vote for enabling the Ministers to continue the war in the manner in which it had hitherto been condueted, was an aCt of which le!. had alrea dy declared his ci , )probation. The opinion he had orr‘ce:avowc:i -he did not see any reason for changing, - since, in the- smaller enterprise, it was true, we • were successful, but in the larger we had He would 110 t vote whatever sum was said to be necessary to. the condueling of this war without pre vious inquiry ; -but if, upon inquiry, it should: appear 'that it was necessary and expedient to"do so, he would .most. joyfully. agree. The next point .was superior to the relations of Spain and Portveill-e.our., relations with America. He rejoiced at tier paeitie disposition ehich_ Government had manifested in the affair of the Chesapeake ; and as negociations were gotng on between the two countries, he should abstain from any observations which might not ap pear in unison with the Speech, reserving to him af the right of canvassing it on some future day, and investigaiing the real state of the question.— The last, and most important point of all, was Ire land—more important than our relations with. the Peninsula, or even with America herself. Yet, upon this subject, the only thong to be collected, horn the Speech was the mention of some improve- . went in the Revenue. But though he felt' a satis faction et the improved state of the Revenue, he was more concerned for the p,:ople from whom the Re venue was-drawn, and more anxious that the. House would lake means to conciliate them, arid ie ,so do ing provide for the security of the whole British Empire. He should not now enter ipto the discus sion at large; ibis was not the occasion, nor did be see the- Right Hon. Gentleman entrusted with the Government of Ireland in his place ; he understood that he was ill, and should be sorry to take advan tage of his absence. But the state of Ireland was such as to call for a solemn inquiry in that Howe, and %viten that solemn inquiry was adopted, he thought it •would appear that one great measure alone, the Emancipation of the Catholics, would be adequate to the suppression of all discontents, and necessary to enable this country to cope with the enemy. He hoped that this inquiry would take . :place at ne distant day, indeed he tholight not, as an .Hon. Fri.nd of his intended to bring it forward shortly, on whicb occasion he hoped the opinion of the House would be found to correspond with his own. *mg what he COticeived - Aha.desetibed to be a Marked omission in the speech of his Royal Highness the . Prince Regent, The Hon. Gent. complained that DO notice was taken of Ireland in the Speech, with the exception of the passage which slated the Un proved receipt of the revenue of that country. But the tion, Gent had himself afforded the strongest evidence of the propriety of abstaining from any spe cific noticl in the speech of the' nature to which- he alluded; for almost in the next sentence, after he had adverted to what he termed an impropriety, the Hon. Gentleman distinctly declared, that he would not go at length into anj consideration of the state of Ireland, because he did not think that the present was a convenient time for entering into such a consideration. Now it the Hon. Gentleman thought that the present was not- a convenient-time for entering into such a discussion, surely those whose duty it was to address his Royal -Higlaress the PRINCE RECENT, were more than instified in re commending his Royal Hiahness to omit any obser vations on a subject calculated•to excite diseoSsion, which by the Hon. Gent.'s own admission would at present be ill-timed. Undoubtedly the lion. Gent, with his view of the course which ought to be pursued Ireland, Might ha% e advised the introduc tion into the Speech of a recommendation of that. desirable course ; but as his Royal .highness's pre-, sent servants %%Tie not of opinion that any such re commendation ought to be given, the Hon. Gen tleman's own view of the case established the impro priety that would have attecrted any vi-aw of the sub, jest at ail. As to ,the notice which the Honoul able Gentleman had given, it was assuredly com petent to any Honourable Member to bting' for. ward the question, for the consideration of the House ; ! - )ut he t I usted that a considerable notice would he given of the' discussion of a subject of such importance. But he was not a'. are, that in the present sate of the debate, it was necessary for him to trouble the • House farther. His principal object had been to state that it was the anxious wish of His Noble Friend and the other framers of the Address so to construct it, that it should, not con vey any pledge beyond the general declaration, that under the present circumstances, the House should not abandon the Spanish cause ; leaving the parti cular manner in which it should be supported, and the extent to which that. support should be carried, to a future decision. „a. perseverance of a brave nation, were not to successful as those of Portugal ; dill, however,. ire ete• d, Oat the spirit was unsub d , .1; that Catalonia and other provinces were aaive tance ; that the French Lad excited a force aaainat themselves which they never could conquer. In allte!ing to the capture of the island ofJava, utider Sir Samuel Auchmuty, without going into Tv detail of the positive advantages we might eurselves expect to derive from it, he would merely observe that 'trance ought not to possess it ; and it must be saris faetory to every one to retied, that after all the threats and boastings of Buonaparte, the Prince Re gent -hould he enabled to•state in his speech to P r. liament, that with that island France had lost all her Col.. !es. With regard to America, it was pleasing to find that the adjustment of the difference with reseed to the affair of the Chesapeake; afforded a strong ground to i ipe that the final adjustment of all differ ences bet sseen tee couetries would. follow. Peace with America was the wish of England, but Eng land would never purchase peace at the expence of honour: Without following the Honourable Baro net through all his extraneous observations, he would altude to_ the internal condition of the coun try. Never was it possessed of greater wealth : this fact was evident trom the multitude of chari ties recently subscribed to, and, among others, the contribution of seventy thousand pounds to the Portuguese sufferers, ;The tranquillity of Ireland was another subject which called for their con gratulation, especially as reports had gone abroad through the public prints, and other means of a different nature. He could assure the House, that in that part of the country with which i.e was con- • meted, the zeal and good condua of the country Gentlemen had.Jemoved all apprehensions. There was also reason to hope, that the difficulties under which the Irish Finances were known to labour in former Sessions, would prove to be but temporary,s many regulations having taken place, and improve- ' ments been made. The Address which he - shoUld propose differed materially from that of the Hdreßa • ronet, and would, be hoped, not only be adopted in its room, but adopted in away becoming the‘oc casion, and worthy of the great cause in i,vhich they were embarked. Unanimity was particularly de-.: sieabie this moment, whets we were contending,- not for power, not for the gratification of any unjust or ambitious inclinations, but for freedom, for in dependence, for existence, and that too against an enemy who, in defiance of all the just principles of war, laboured only for the subjugation' of the won Justum bellum quibus neeessarium et pia arena quibus nisi in armis nulla relinquitur sees.” . , His Lordship concluded with moving an Address, which was, as mire', an echo of the Speech, as an amendment to that of Sir Francis Burdett. Mr. Vasa seconde'd the Address, but was inaudi ble in the gallery during the greater patt of his speech. He set out with premising -th it he should c t - 11 - 1 - ne himself to the topics contained iti the speech of the Prince Regent, upon whose G overnment he passed some compliments. He then proceeded to no tice the melancholy state of his health, , daring, that as long as a - spark of gratitude re mained in the nation, so long would they look up to tt e moral charader of the Soverereign, who, " born and educated in this country, gloried in the name of Briton." He contended that every comfort and dignity .adapted to a Sovereign, should be afforded to him. This could not initetere with a proper economy, which should at e. ays be practised. Tie riches of a Briti,h King consisted in the wealth an : happiness of his pauple. In adverting to the next point, he said the facts spoke for tliemadves. Portugal was yet free, and if it was' glom to have n scued an old and fai hful ally from the power of an invader, the glory was our own. The people of Portugal had found what the promise of the protection of the Imperial Eagles .‘as. Of this he was cei taio, that the conduct of Government was not only honourable to the spirit of Great Britain, but ad vantageous to the cause of the civilized world. As th whst tire Honouraole Baronet had said respedieg, the employment of German troops, he should only say, that upon many occasions they had proved ibetnselvl:s able to fight With the valour of their adopted' at don. He congratulated the House on the late adjustueset with America, and the prove& of mote important arrangerne4s. Peace must be the wish of a Well-disposed Government ; but peace could only `wise in t ebunty. It Was not difficult to force e, that that dominion which was usurped and maintained by a train of violations upon the tranqu lily of the world, could nut last. Hardships, they might endure in opposing the common tilt my, but they must meet them, wiih resolution—they must put a confidenCe . in the Regent, and pursue the course which had hitherto been pursued so pros perously for this country, and.enabled her by the strong arm of her auspiciOas power to protect the injured and repel the ambitious - . Mr. Wirtrattaan said, that as it was the inten ticrof rite 11 - uaose able Baronet to push the question to a vote, he would make an observation or two as to the impression on his mind. 'There were many general points and observations contained in his pro- positions whiCh were just, but there were also many Lich he (Mr. W.) differed from hits. Some topids were introduced ; which he thought had been Leiter reserved for of liter occasions, . and some ex pressiens were admitted w itl(regard ne w 11;elt he was not prepared to give an opinion. Tire predicament in which he (2vlr. W.) was placed by the tNO Addresses, -was that of trot being able to vote for either. 'He hoped the Hon. Baronet,: under those- circumstances, would, see the propriety of withdrawing his motion. Mr. PoNsoNaY, in explanation, said that the R;ght Honourably Gentleman had misunderstood him respecting • Ireland. What ,he complained of was, that the Speech 'was. destitute of any recom mendation to Parliament to take the state of Ire land into consideration. This, he repeated, was, in his opinion, a matterof absolute necessity ; and he again gave notice, that an Honourable Friend of his would very speedily undertake to direct the attention of the Howe to this most important of all subjects. Mr. BIDDULPIt was willing to pledge himself to further support of ;he Spanish cause, but concurred with the Honourable Gentlenytn near him in his disapprobation of the, omission in the Speech of any notice of the stave of Ireland. _ _ _ The Gallery was thou cleared for a division. For Sir F. Burdett's Address - Against it - 238 Majority 2 37 The amended Address was immediately agreed to without a division:. . The gAery was not re-opened ; but we under stand that 'Sir J. Nevq , 9RT gave notice that on ThursdAy he would move for illerevival of the C mitre?. on Irish Finance.--A !journed, MAILS. ARK Iv ND —I Waterford. Dult---; Cadiz, 1 Lisbon, I Mal ta, t Guernsey, t Jersey, 1 Pr.tzils, z Waterford. The CIINCEL LOH of the EXCHEQUER 9bserved, that, in the first instance, he thought it would have been better, lud the House proceeded withoet any discussion to a division, on the Addresi propOsed by the Him. Bart.; but as the Hon. Gentleman oppo site had been induced to Rieke several observations, on the general subjec t, and as there would probably exist no disposition in the Heuse to renew the dis cussion on the next question which ould come be tote them, he felt it Necessary to say a few words in reply to the Hon. G_Noleartan's remarks. If, con trary to his expecatioti,t he debate, should renew ed on the next question, it would o' course tie compe tent to him to proceed at greater leng.it in the con sideration of any arguments that !night in that case he adduced. With respect to tlte first point re served by the Honourable Gentleman, there cer tainly could be no doubt that all which that Hon. Gentleman, or any other Hon. Gentleman, would pled e himself to by .. .concurring in the Address, would be to acquiesce in the propriety, udder the existing calamitous circumstances of his Majesty's health, of making a suitable provision for those cir cumstances; and it was evident : that the details of that provision-would be the proper subject of future discussion. So with : regard to the second point re 'served by the Honourable Gentleman, he con ceived that in no possible construtlion of Parlia rnentau usage could the concurrence of the House in that passage of the proposed Address be implied to go further than to shew their ; disposition to afford such succours for the support of the great con test in Which . the country: was engaged, as a deli berate consideration of the circumstances of that contest Might prove to be necessary, leaving the amount and direction of those succours as fit subjeas to be tubsequently discUssed by those who cornered in the general principle. He perfectly concurred in the opinion of the Honourable Gentleman as to the propriety, under the present circums.ances, when begaiation. was pending: with America,. of ab staining from any discussion of the relations between the two countries, since no discussion ,could, at the present moment, have any specific application. At the Same time it would be competent to arty Hon. Mem 'her at a future period to bring the subject,it he should think fit, under the considetatton of .Parliament.-- ' The next point to which the Hon. Gent. had alluded PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY A r 1 - IYILY6 O ' CLOCK. Consols. 6ii 1 Red. Ann. -63. t., The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said, ,he :had not the advantage of hearing the speech' of the Honourable 13,tronet'i but the words of the Addrrts which he held in his hand, alluded to the conduct 'of Lord Ellenborough in the trial of White. He thought he could take upon himself to say, that the observation was unfounded. .No man's defente'was ever heard with, more patience and indagencd than that of White. During the course of his trial, manylegal phjeations were In ide by his Counsel, and urgedover and over again. In 'fact„ nothing had fallen front that Noble Judge, which could justify any one in THE S UN. SO,LEM QUIS UICdRF FALSUM AUDLAT-? LONDON, WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 8, 181. • The Ardent, Rear Admiral HOPE, the. Dictator, and the whole of the remaining ships Gram Wingo Snund, passed behind Yarmouth Sands )esterday. The wind being now easterly, the fate of the St. George and Defence cannot long remain unknown. We believe, that, supposing them to have stood out the gale on the 23d, and that the Russian ship ac tually saw them on the morning of the 24th, there has been no wind or weather that would allo‘c the St. George, under jury masts, to have yet reached the English coast. We are still sanguine that to. morrow will bring us some tidings of those ships. The Debate last night in the House of Commons took rarheran unusual turn, from the circumstance of Sir FRANCIS BURDETT'S having addressed the Chair before Lord JOCELYN, and proposed an Ad dress of his own. The consequence was, that Lotd JOCELYN was obliged to propose the Address in the shape of an Amendment to Sir F. BUIIDETT'S mo tion. We are unable to form any conjecture as to the advatitage which.the Hon. Baronet proposed to derive from this departure from the usual course of proceeding ; it certainly did not procure him much additional support, for his motion was negatived by 238 lo 1! In the House of Lords the debate was short, but interesting ; Lords, GRENVILLE and GREY expressed themselves in terms of the most 'de cided opposition to the measures of Atlministration; The address was, however, agreed to without a division. The observance of the' Princesl - CuARLOTTE of WALES'S Birthday was noticed yesterday in a more particular manner than bervotbre, by the Royal PR ICE 0 VESTZ 13. ink Stock, 231 Navy per cc. 94k ex. div. Irish 5 per Cent. 4 per Cent. 78 B 79 3 per Cent. Red. (33 k 3 per Ct. Cen;, ex. div. Bank L. Ann. 164 i i-roths India Stock, lIICH WATER AT LON Morning, ri min. after 9 LONDON: Printed bY 'I HO NIA S WOOD, of No. 35, Maiden-lane, Covent-garden; and Published by WILLIAM A RMIGER SCRIPPS, South Molton-street, Gr/svennr-scrtaro, .4 At the SUN OFFICE, NO, IN, Strand, I . ; here Aiiverlisolnealsi Orders for the Paper, .Letters tor the Editor ; &c, (post-paid), .must be addressed. family artfl others. Het Poyai Higlin tortipleteti he 4 r siveenth year ; upon wi,ich occasion- , did PRINCE nIIGENT gave a grand dinner at Carlton House, to the Qtrtsrv, &c. who came exprnsit limn Windsor tot that purpose. _ _ _ _ . . Her MAJESTY arrived - at the Palace at twelvSt o'clock, accompanied by the Princesses AuGusTa . '. and MAnY, and attended by Lord AYLESBURY.;-'' ; About half-past one o'clock, the PRINCE REGENT carriage, with the coachman and three footmen in, their State liveries, arrived at the Queen's Palact-,,l and took the QUEEN and PRINCE,SSES to Carltod House, wh,re the Dukes of KnNr and Cumßta"%l LAND mere in attendance to receive them, and con dUcted them to the PRINCE ReGENT, who im me 'l- diately introduced the Princess CHARLOTTE, %4 herr her Royal Highness was congratulated on the. return of the day. Her Royal Highness appeared extremely _ well. The Dikes of YORK, CL.ARENCE, and Ca:;- BRIDGE, aftefWaidS arrived. The Prince conducted the QUEEN and PnrucEssii..6 to view his house, and :lie improvements lately made, in it ; which occupied the Royal Party till near font o'clock, when they sat down to dinner in the crim son velvet room. The QUEEN was attended by . Lady AYLESBURY. The PRINCE by General Tuts- NEB and Kr.rpec, and Colonel CONGREVE:' The Princess CHARLOTTE, by Lady DE C1.11 , 1'01/13.. .At a quarter past five i `the QUEEN and ParscEsits kit Carlon House, by torch-light, for Windsor! The QUEEN and PRINCESSES were conduBed to their carriage by the PRINCE. The day was o' - ,served as ' a day -,1 rejoicing, generally, at Carlton House. MEETING OF PARLIAMENT,—The Finance of a Country is the first abject of consideration in a stwe of wartare; and there is no branch of it more pro du•live to the Pt,blic, or pleasing to the individhal, than the STATE LOTTERY, 1. r these two strong rea sons :—tst. It is not compu!sory, and 2dly, At tha same time, that it adds to the Revenue, every holder of a Ticket or a Shaw, has a chance, at a small risk, of producing in a single hour a permanent for tune for himself and his famly, as in the present Lottery ; where, for 'a ,few Pounds, a person mac' gain 20,0001. if bought on or before Uniday ti a 20th instant, as all the Tickets will be Drawn that i next Morning. k BREAD.—Yesterday there was no Court of Al dermen ; the LORD MAYOR, after inspeitling rettuns, ordered it to rise one penny per peck. NAVAL NEWS. PORTSMOUTH, JAN. 7.—Arrived his DdajesryS ship Hotspur from a cruize, Poieliers from the Downs, and the Topaze from the Mediterranean it!: a convoy. Sailed the, Missletoe with a convoy for Gaernsey. The West India convoy still remain at the Mo ther Bank, Cowes Roads, and Stokes Bay, wind- bound, DEAL, JAN. 7.—Arrived 1,i3 Majesty's ship lief.* cler from th e B a l t i c . A large French privateer is sent into the Downs by some of our cruizers. PLYMOUTH, JAN. 6. His Ili.festy's ship Pelorui has sent in a French chasse mare ; the 4rrow, French brig; and the 0. P. priv;ateer, a French sloop. Arrived the Arrow schooner from the coast of Fiance. Sailed his Majesty's ship'the Gannymrde for raltar, with two transports and some merchant:nerl,. DOVER, JAN. 7.--Last night the Roy° s'oop of war took otf here the French privateer Le Furet, -2,. belonging t o Boulogne ; it was this priva teer that took, a few months ago, one of h. Majesty's cutters, and carried her into etlais‘ She took last Thursday between Dungeness an-. 1 Folkstone the sloop Filelidq, of London, DAVISON. master, and sent her into Calais ; this privateer bast been very successful, having taketc . Z4 prizes,, among them - were several large Wtst Indiameal the pti vateer has sailed' for the Downs. BIRTLIS .0n Sunday, in Park-street, the Lady of Augustus Ha.. milton, Esq of a o,,ughter. On the 6th inst. the Lady of Mr. T. Hornsby, of Cora hill, of a son. 11148 it 1.61). On the 2d inst. at Rippon. Charles Whitaker, Esql of Hull, to RachaeF, diughta or Homer keynard, Esq . . of Hob Green, near Rippun. On Thursdiy, ai Clie . lsea, Andrew Wbeissdale, Esq. of Penrith, Cumberland, to Mary, the eldest daughter of Cap tain Walter Canuthers, late of the Last-India Cr.nu pny's Service. On the .3th lust at St. George's, Hanover-square, Tons. than Garth, Esq. or ,Rotherhil he, to Ann, fourth daughter of Willi:►m Anderson, Esq. of Lis,on Green On Monday the 6:li inst. at the Cathedral, Bangor, Henry Fynes, F.so Memoer of Parlimielt tln . A tdborough, Yuri:- shire, to Katherine, third ,fitittighter of the Lord Bishop atf that Diocese. . DIMS On the Oth of lune last. at the Presidency, Madras, To sepli Greenhill, Esq. upwards of thirty yeas in the Civil Service at the Hon East.lndia Company. On the 26th ult after a lingering illn ss, Mrs Brown, of Dyer's.buildings, Holborn, relit of the late Mr. Joseph I/ rot.% Ili Corn% taclor. - • _ Ow . 1 riltiav last. at Broxbourne, Iferts, Mrs. Elizal)ctli . lavtravr, aged 77 }ears. 'F STOCKS ER DA V. India Bonds, 17S, [SS. pr. old Anti. Excheq. Bills. 3d. per day, par, IS. pr.-3. 1 ,-(1. per day,' Ot 3s ni cs. F r i num iliS. Imperial Ann. Consols. for Op. 6. i DON BRI4X; b To.MOR- Evening. 40 min. after 9,