The Sun. — London, England, 1837-07-01 00:00:00

PALACE COURT.-(YESTERDAY.) i ,Li .WfNELSON V. TcCNO. '1 The plaintlff, Mr. J. Nelson, who appetred its person, stated the en F.'C to the jury. It was an action to recover compensa eetion ire a breach of contract, brought by the plaintiff, a repor t' ter, against Mr. Young, the proprietor of The Sun News .`. PE'S:cr. The plaintiff had been employed by the defendant as f- s ere reporter at the commencement of the present session of `f„ Parliament, and had been dismissed a few days afterwards, as sibe alleged, without reasonable or propablc cause, The action ; was brought to recover a sum of ninety guineas, being at the ~.- rate of three guineas a-week for six months (the probable do ration of the session) deducting six guineas paid by the de- Pendant, and for such further damages as the jury might think , e s proper to award for the loss and injury sustained b y the plain t'_tiff: The defendant had pleaded first that no su ch contract ekhad been made by him with the plaintiff, and seco ndl y that if i sAte any such contract had been made, the plaintiff had been found r'irl< ;,.6i wholly incompetent, unable, and unfit to report Parliamen t;, tery proceedings and other news," and that therefore he (the r defendant) was justified in dismissing him from his employ egment. In the course of a most extraordinary address of nearly Othree hours, the plaintiff repeatedly told the jury that lie had '... been treated as if he was "not fit to carry guts to a bear," and that he had been considered nothing better than " an illiterate iclown," or " an incompetent jackass" and " dead in heart and soul."—( Loud bursts of laughte r.) He would now tpoint out what appeared to him to be the moral e q uit y 1•_. of the pleadings in which the defendant at one point e de lnied the pleadings, and at another admitted them. Wh y , the l 'iefendant first gave the Jury a litt le g nat, then a little bo g , land then he required them to swallow a camel, to enable them e lto do which they must have the ca p acit y of a boa constrictor, s`fs saturated with saliva. The defendant had assailed not only his i . property, but his life , in those p leadin g s, for without characters life itself was valueles s. All he asked was, the reward of his :- labour—for labour , mental or manual, was of the hi g hest class, and far superior t o an y other descri p tion of p ro p ert y . The e . witnesses he would produce were of t hree classes ; first, the hostile, or those who were connected w ith the defendant b y I dependency, inte.eest, or intimacy—second, the reluctant , or I 1 those who eveected favours—and thirdly, the indifferent, who se were men ei very high qualifications; but he had no witnesses who were favourable to him. He would give them a plain and simple narrative of facts, not for clap-trap purposes—the sacred majesty of the law, which constituted them Judges, forbad them to be eener6us, and even if they were, he (the eleint:We eould accept nothing from their generosity. He 0 then proceeded to expatiate upon the great advantages of a classical education, and an acquaintance with the orations of • Demosthenes, Cicero, and Burke, in forming the "raw mate erial of a Parliamentary reporter." The House of Commons . was supposed to be composed of 650 of the most intelligent • and able men in the kingdom, and it was necessary, to consti tute a first-rate reporter, that he should be able to comprehend, 1 . not 'only all the 650 differences of style in speaking, but to be acquainted with the 650 various branches of science, political 5 f economy, jurisprudence, and other matters, for which the .0' Members of the House of Commons were severally distin , • guished. There might then be said to be 650 degrees of ex eecellence in reporting from zero, at which he presumed the r defendant estimated him "an illiterate clown," up to 650, 11 which was a very strong boiling point.—( Much laughter.) s e . A reporter should be occasionally a tailor—( Roars of laughter) g.,—to dress up in a becoming or gaudy suit the Member, pre -Ik.. vious to his appearing upon the drawing-room of the news ;ft paper. He should be also occasionally a butcher — ( Renewed s e laughter)—to enable him to cut up and dissect the orations of ;re the speaker ; and he should also be a baker, to put the proper es stamina into the speaker's head. He should also act occasionally • as the tyrant of old, who had an iron bed upon which be e 5., ..,1 stretched his victims, and if they happened to be too long be cut them short, and if they were too short he stretched them . out. A reporter was a piece of the most beautiful and exqui site mecha.nism—the voice of the orator floating in the air ar e; rived at the reporter's ear, and tapping at the "port" of the i e ear for admittance as upon a drum, was thence conveyed to the beautiful alembic of the reporter's brain, from whence, by a species of extraordinary electricity, it was conveyed along es his hand, and oozing out at his fingers' ends, went pop, pop, es pop, upon the paper.—(Roars of laughter.) After stating • that he had been previously engaged on the True Sun news "...:paper, from whence he had gone to the defendant's paper, The Sun, the plaintiff concluded his address, in which he had been frequently interrupted by the Learned Judge, by saying , that he would now begin the battle. Mr. H. Tilsey, from the Stamp-office, produced the affidavit •'''' of proprietorship of the defendant. Mr. Garrett produced files of the Times, Sun, True Sun, --:' and Constitutional newspapers, from September, 1836, to --'. February, 1837. 1 1 Sir Wm. Gossett, Serjeant-at- Arms to the House of Com et mons, was applied to by the editor of The Sun, at the corn .' mencement of the present session, for nine cards of admittance .to the reporters' gallery. No person would be admitted to the ... reporters' gallery without presenting such a card. Any person ss , presenting the card would be admitted. 'y e Mr. White, a schoolmaster, residing at Connaught-terrace, -i Edgeware-road, was employed, in September last, to engage a ei , tutor for a school, of high classical attainments. The plaintiff s Applied, and was examined by the witness in Euripides and ''' ether works, and found to be an excellent 'classical scholar. Witness was not a reporter, and thought if he tried his hand at reporting he would make a very indifferent attempt. Mr. Henry Byron was educ ated at Cambridge University. Was a reporter on the Times n ews p a p er p art of last session. ,K Is at present a reporter on the Morning Post. He was not '. aware that the Times exacted proofs of classical and scientific acquirements from the gentlemen employed upon it. Was lot very long a reporter, and therefore not much acquainted l e ,vith the press. Was not in the habit of comparing the reports . n The Sun newspaper with the other morning papers. There might be occasional errors arising from hurry ; se but -he should say that The Sun reports were on the whole - remarkably accurate. He considered The Sun reports, so far -is he had looked at them, g y accurate. An educated s' man was likely, prima facie, to make the best reporter. The I Parliamentary reporters are, so far as he wasere acquaminted with ~" them, well educate d men. The witness hat soe length letailed what he believed to be the custom of the press in • London, which was, that a Parliamentary reporter, going from 1 r •or an annual engagement. A person who had never previously 1 been in the Gallery as a Parliamentary reporter, was put upon trial, by having an experienced reporter to take notes with him, b e f o re he could obtain an d e in ng a ag m en. Witn e ss had ss had seen the plaintiff writ e 140 wor ! Lord's t . _ seen the plaintiff wr ite was the Prayer, but never any other 140 words in a minute. Mr. Geoweee—Evidently a clap-trap. Witness should not think it possible for a highly educated . man, with a knowledge • report Parliamentary pof short-hand, tobe he in b c a o d mpete ih n o t us t i o y rocceohngads, practised in the Gallery, and , proceedings of the House , • ti s erience, he was become provided acquainteN r i e eit the of Commons. Without that cap l ik e ly to ue . ir?compete .. .atseen nt —[A tre i ase i short-hand written by the plaintiff was put in.] Nl . itness had and had received instructions in short-hand 6iseen that treatise, 1 from the plaintiff. Parliamentary reporting was the highest grade; and persons m ight be very competent to report in üblic meetings, who would be fo d s s courts of law, and at p .. of . House un quite incompetent in Mr. James Scott • t he Gallery the Hof Commons. had employed the plaintiff as classical tutor to instruct his son for about six months. Plaintiff' had ,-' requested him to use his influence to procure him employment Knew nothing of his capabilities as a reporter, es as a reporter. d I l '-' but believed him to be a very goo sc io ar. When a Perlin '''. mentary reporter went from one paper to another, the engage ':. ment was either sessional or annual. If the re p orter had ne e- ver previously been in the Gallery, that was at peculiar case, and then the reporter was tbe considered as pon trial. Pad kown many a ble and Well-educated men, who had entirely anded as Parliamentary reporters. When arepester was upon trial, an experienced person the i took a note neth hi m , t h at t h e Paper might not suffer from ncompetency of the perso n eon trial. Had kno wn many instes,ees of persons having been s e. so put upon trial, and after a few nights dismissed for incom ee: petency. The reports it 'The Sun are wond er f u ll y accurate, ;;,seconsidering the h aste with whi ch they arc got up, and which kl. must occasionally give rise to triflin g errors . By the Cot: RT—lf witness saw a gentleman t a ki ng no t es i n Lhe Gallery, and another reporter from the same establishment taking notes at the same time, witness would infer from that ',. 'lle.S the editor of the paper was not satisfied of his competency, and that he was merely up o n trial. The reporter must be ible to write out a correct account of the proceedings, and the weader could only correct verbal inaccuracies. Plaintiff—Are there any of The Sun reporters to sshom ~. you would confide the education of your son? e,. The COURT—Really this is not to be endured. The Court , is willing to allow every latitude to a person conducting his . owa case ; but what right have you, Sir, in crying up your ''.own abilities, to throw ' aspersions upon the characters of others ? Wi :., tness—l have no objection to answer the question. I •know nothing of the attainments or qualifications hof the gentle ,: men connected with Tie Sun newspaper, except asßeporters. Mr. John Boulgcrknew the l • ' p aintiff as a general reporter in rs the True Sun newspaper for three or four months previous ‘to the commencement of the present Session of Parliament. He was ~.. employed in the Rolls Court and at the Police offices. .No fault was found with his reports. He had been sent on one -7, occasion so attend a Church rate meeting at Brighton. Ile s• eas not engaged as a Parliamentary Reporter on the True r Sun, nor could witness say whether he would have been so smployed, if he had remained on the True Sun. Cannot state the precise time witness left, but it was a few days previ sus to the commencement of the present Session. James Ellsey, a messenger on The Sun newspaper—His luty was to take " the copy" from the reporters to the office. ..- Saw the plaintiff on one occasion at the Old Bailey. (a laugh); old him 'at'- Yonng wanted to see him. Saw him two or House of Commons. Saw the other gen - e times at Ills . /e e l. , son s CO copy, it was so badly written. • en correcting ,-, teh laughter.) rk' :,‘, -:ass thought that with a little practice Nort as well as plaintiff. (Great ould be able to A hi m to say so—that was his era , liter.) No persona bad reports. (Renewed laughter. ) ion, pl a i n tiff gave s 't The Sun of fice, p aid the p lai ntiff r. Timmins, 1 ns, cashie. 'l4 dam's orders. He has not I guineas a week by the en , htate w hether he paid him one ohs with him and can i ' 0 weeks' salary. Sun , has R. 11. Tolcher—ls a reP ortett , The ~„ laintet for tasio o or t ' °as been so for some years. Saw VP . I . nights reporting in the gallery of tbtleese of (-3 DI - Saw Mr. in the seat allotted to The Sun repoite the same ''S sitting behind plaintiff and taking notes s p what lain ' Had seen Mr. Ferny s ubse q uentl y correctinte reports, and Mr. Ferny had po inted out to wit ' ' f been obliged to do. d e from r . James Woods—Has been for several years ctecte 1 1 , 10 London Press. Engagements are made sit" Seg" 'Y or ann l ( ual y. A Parliamentary reporter gc ,i _ _ e _ . P aper to another, is considered to be engaged foams..® e 5 s _____—amees tior4 er aseetatly'. tt to customary for persons who have e°• pi - eviunsly in the gallery, to be put upon trial previous to their being engaged. Considering the rapidity w i t h w hich the reports arc get out, the reports in The Sun Newspaporare marvellously accurate. There must be some er rors aris ing" from the extreme haste with which they are prepared. A pct . - son, although a good reporter in the Law Courts, might fall entirely in going into the Oaente! Fdr tlib defendant here read extracts from the plaintiff's reports, as follows :—" Dr. Bowring would move for leave to bring in a Bill to modify relating to the Naviga tion Acts from European Ports," and asked witness if he be lieved that was a correct report of any thing that had taken place in the House of Commons. Witness could not under stand what it meant. " Mr. Leader would call the attention of the Lower Shannon, 13th March." Witness thought such a . report unint e lli g ibl e. Such th i ngs, if repeated, would se nously injure the character of the Paper. Several other extracts of a similar nature were read by Counsel. Witness would say that such mistakes would shod the inability of the person to report. No education, however extensive, would enable a person to report in the gallery without practice and experience. He might prove incom petent, although he had swallowed the whole British Museum. —(Much laughter.) Witness—Members of Parliament al though generally supposed to be men of very superior educa tion, might fail as Reporters. On an occasion when the Re porters Gallery was closed a report of the discussion which took place had been sent to the Morning Papers by some of the Members, and next day there were thirty or forty letters addressed to the Editor by the Members whose speeches had been reported, complaining of the inaccuracy of the report.— (Much laughter.) Mr. Watts had been thirty or forty years connected with the press. The evidence of this gentleman, as to engagements upon the press, was to the same effect as that given by the preceding witnesses. An acquaintance with the technical proceedings of the House could only be acquired by ex perience.. - Several extracts from the plaintiff's reports were reed to witness, who said they seemed to him something like rigma rolc.—( A laugh.) He had been frequently astonished at the extreme accuracy of the reports in The Sun newspaper, con sidering the great rapidity with which they had been prepared. Mr. Wm. Piercy has been a Parliamentary reporter on The Sun newspaper for about ten years. Saw the plaintiff for three or four nights in the gallery taking notes. Knows Mr. Ferny ; he is an experienced reporter. Has seen Mr. Ferny standing behind Mr. Nelson taking notes at the same time. Has seen Mr. Ferny afterwards correcting Mr. Nelson's re ports. There was a good deal of complaint about the inac• curacy of plaintiff's reports, and witness himself complained of it. It is the general custom on The Sun to take persons on trial before they are engaged. Knows instances of two or three reporters having been dismissed for incompetency from The Sun newspaper. The case for the plaintiff here closed. Mr. CROWDER, for the defendant, submitted to the Learned Judge that there was no case to go to the Jury. There was no evidence of contract, and the evidence of the plaintiff's wit nesses, on the contrary, went to establish a totally different state of things—viz., that persons who had never previously were yerree ported in the Gallery were always tak en on trial, a liable to be dismissed for incompetency. The Learned June); thought there was no case to go to the Jury ; but if the plaintiff wished it the case must proceed. The Plaintiff wished the case to be sent to the Jury. Mr. CROWDER (with whom was Mr. Carey) addressed the Jury for the defendant. The learned counsel commenced by saying the plaintiff, being determined to have the opinion of the jury on the case presented to them, the difficulty was, on what evidence were they to come to the conclusion there had been such a contract between the plaintiff and defendant as that stated upon the record, and which it was necessary the plaintiff should establish before he would be entitled to their verdict. Perhaps it would be expedient for him, before he no ticed any of the comments made by Mr. Nelson in his speech, which he thought, for a considerable time, must have left them in the dark as to what was the point to which his evi dence would be directed, or upon what their verdict was to proceed, just to state what it was the plaintiff claimed at the hands of the Jury, and what it was the defendant denied. The plaintiff, who had been in the habit of reporting police cases, and the proceedings at public meetings, claimed, under a con tract with Mr. Young, the proprietor of The Sun, for the performance of certain duties, the sum of 881. 65., that being the amount at 21. 2s. a week for a period of seven months, from the 31st of January 1837, the day on which Parliament met, the plaintiff having calculated the session would last that time. In the first place it was contended by Mr. Young that the plaintiff was not engaged for the period mentioned, and therefore was not entitled to the sum claimed, and in the 'se cond place it was alleged, which had been commented upon by the plaintiff in his address, that, assuming there was any en gagement, the plaintiff had shown himself incompetent and un able to perform the duty of a reporter of Parliamentary pro ceedings, and therefore Mr. Young would have a right, ac cording to law, to discharge him. Indeed, it was not doubted by the plaintiff in his replication, that if he was incompetent to discharge the duties of a Parliamen tary reporter, the right existed in Mr. Young to dis charge him, assuming that there was a Sessional engage ment ; therefore, the first question was, whether there was a Sessional engagement ? and the Jury would make up their minds upon that before they came to consider the incom petency of Mr. Nelson, which was always an unpleasant task, and particularly so when the gentleman, as in this case, was himself present. The plaintiff bad been amply paid for any work be might have done, because he had actually received two guineas; and four guineas had been paid into Court to corer any demand for work or labour done by him for the news paper. The Learned Counsel admitted that if there had been a stipulation between the parties, or if that had passed be tween them from which a clear engagement could be inferred that Mr. Nelson was to continue a Reporter for The Sun during the Session of Parliament, although he might after wards have proved incompetent, Mr. Young would have been bound by that contract. A contract might be proved in two ways, either by express stipulation, or by inference, aris ing from a usage and custom well established and known in a profession. But what was the evidence adduced by the plaintiff on the present occasion, and on which he principally relied ? Mr. Watts was corroborated by Mr. Woods, Mr. Byron, Mr. Scott, and by every expe rienced gentleraan to whom the question was put; for he, the Learned Counsel, did not think there was any difference of opinion among the very respectable gentlemen who had been called before them ; and what was their evidence ? The evi dence was, that when an individual, a Parliamentary reporter on a newspaper, left that newspaper, and went into the em ployment of the proprietor of another newspaper, and was taken without anything passing between the person engaged and the person engaging, he took his seat in the Gallery, and was con sidered, as a reporter on that newspaper for the Session. But the jury were aware that the plaintiff never, before the 31st of .January, 1837, attempted to report as a Parliamentary re porter—was never engaged on any newspaper as a Parliamen tary reporter —was never in the gallery of the House of Com mons, even, to assist another man—and was never in the re porters' gallery at all, for the purpose of taking down Par liamentary proceedings. Mr. Nelson's principal occupa tion appeared to have been in attending police offices, and public meetings. The question, therefore, which arose, and which had been put to all the witnesses, was this—sup posing a person precisely in the situation of Mr. Nelson, laho had never been a Parliamentary reporter, on being seen in the gallery of the House of Commons, arid particularly being seen II as he was with another gentleman from the same office, sitting beside him, taking down the same debate, and correcting what he had afterwards written, according to usage and custom in your profession, would that person be considered as having a sessional engagement, without any proof whatever of such an engagement ? All the witnesses hal decidedly ne gatived any such supposition. Then here was Mr. Nelson, the plaintiff, a person who had never bsfore been engaged as a Parliamentary reporter, going to the Gallery of the house of Commons with Mr. Feeney, a reporter on the same esta blishment ; Mr. Feeney sat beside him taking notes, he never being trusted alone ; complaints were made that the reports were very incorrect ; they were altered by Mr. Feeney ; and, after being on trial for about fuur or five nights, he was dis charged. There was no evidence on which the Jury could say there was a Sessional engagement, and therefore it was scarcely necessary to enter into the second branch of the case as to the incompetency of the plaintiff, because on the first pert of the case there could not be the slightest doubt. Then the plaintiff had relied on the fact of two guineas having been paid him for one week, and four guineas having been paid into Court, which had been merely done on a former occasion, when the plaintiff brought a similar action, and was nonsuited without the defendant's case having' been gone into at all, in s itiaatde not before, pa that the defendant had taken work - for he order that there might no qua': el should l. have been ve r y The Learned Counsel then stated as i l l i e ich ha l d ie Nelson had determined he . on the whole case, it was willing to have sat down without saying anything more, but a s the ease had proceeded, and as would have the opinion of the Jury necessary he (Mr. of the Plaintiff, of which h e it Crowder) should advert to other topics ; and when he looked at the speech i had taken a note, but not in short-band, seemed to him it was remarkable in n: any o f its passages.—( Al ) The plaintiff appeared to think h e w as a person of t education ; he (Mr. C.) did not mean to say h e was n ot ; but t plaintiff seemed to fancy that if he was a person who had had a good education in Latin and Greek, h e must b e a co mpetent Parliamentary . reporter. The only questi on or . t h e sec ond point was ‘ 4 he tiler tcplaintiff was a compete n t P ar li amen tary reporter? Mr. h Nelson, o this point, had waste d a grea t deal of time in reasoning onthe moral equity o f th e p l ea di ngs w hich he (the Learned Counsel) did not wi s h t o di scuss w i t h hi m , because in courts of law they had to cond uc t the p law roceedings in a legal manner, and the Jury would h ave to take directions upon the from the Learned Judge who presided. He did not understand a great deal of tile langu Igo that had been addressed to the Jury by Mr. Nelson. Much of it was what he should not have expected from a gentleman profess ing to be a man of education, because in his selection of language he had not been very particular.—( A laugh.) He had stated that he was considered not fit to throw guts to a bear.—( Laughter.) Now he (Mr. Crowder) did not find on the pleadings any such charge against Mr. Nelson. He did not know whether Mr. Nelson had got these expressions from Euripides, or any of the other books he had referred to--( Laughter) —or whether he had learned that language in the House of Commons ; but this ho knew, that it was language not very familiar in Courts of Justice. However, it seemed to be that which tickled the fancy of Mr. Nelson himself very much, for he had used it not less than four times. Then the plaintiff had stated that he had been treated as if he had a dead heart and soul.— (Laughter. ) God forbid that anything of the sort should be assumed; the question was whether he was competent at the time lie was discharged to perform certain duties most im portant to the public, which required a certain degree of know ledge, and a certain degree of education, but beyond all quea tion, a great deal practice. Now why were th e j ur y trou bl e d with th a t extraordinary harangue which they had listened to with a great deal of more pati ence f or th ree h ours t h an h e h a d expected, which was not onl i y ., a statement of his own excel lence, but whieh went to ma..., out that a Reporter was the quinteacenbc of every thin. . The plaintiff's words Were rather retat , : arkable , *—(L'aiiihte.r: ) He lia.d Statesl fllat a R ' as a most beautiful piece of machinery, im- iitai and lite e r P a ° ry vt L P samething quite extraordinary—( Laughter)—and_ he had g one on to state at grea t l engt h h ow i t was a Reporter must be that extraordinary indii ideal, combining every moral and menta l qualification tog e th er , also with great power of the fingers. The plaintiff had said that the words of the speaker were taken in at the " port of the ear"—(the Learned Counsel supp ose d Mr. Nelson had meant porc h of the ear)—" entered th e beauti ful alembic of th e re p or t er , l s brain, and finally oozed out at the finger's ~ d. —(Great laughter.) Now a m an w h o cou ld en take in at the port of his ear words fro the lips of a speak er which, by a c erta i n electricity' got intothed d the aleomwhnic to of the brain, and then, by anot h er electricity, flow points of his fingers, a n d th e n oozed out from the finger's ends on paper, must be certainly, to say the least of him, a most ' e xtraordinary b e i ng —(Continued laughter.) Ile would g i ve full credit to Mr. Nelson for being acquainted with Latin and Greek; no doubt he had had what was called a liberal educe.. tie!), and was fit to teach young gentlemen Latin an d G ree k , The plaintiff did not think it at all necessary for a reporter to have discretion ; all that, in his opinion, was ne cessary to con stitute a first- r at e re p or t e r was, at he should be en a bl e d to r ead Demosthenes and Euripides. Whether the plaintiff, Mr. N e lson, was a man of judgment anddiscretion he would leav e understood a r n st y oo ra d te al l if r h e e . 11 it to the Jury to determine.—( Laughter. wa s, if he had the power, as he (Mr. 63 por ters ought to have, of condens a ti on , e had not exercised u that day in his address to the Jury.___( Laughter.) Although g r . Nelson was a person who hadaccor andin to his own state dalthough he was e st ie whole House of r i o t d , i ll , 650 id0 a 1 horse nh o wished power to o f r e e o a n s e o e n n) i nt.rmgo concentrate say, could th (b a yL t at hu with tl ea ri n. all ). c o mmons in himself, he (Mr. C. lais reasoning and all his concentration henot under wad the arguments put forth by the plaintiff wi t h respect to the witnesses that.had been called . plain tiff, be (Mr. C.) had not one word to say against them ; they a ' o ppeared to be persons of respectability, a had e g i ver , the ir evidence most fairly ; why Mr. Nelson and bed chosen to stis niatize some of them, he (Mr. C.) was unable to under-- He had called them reluctant and hostile witnesses. Ness , in his (Mr. Crowther's) opinion, one and all h a d solo . the i r testimony as totally indifferent parties, to the given elin the a ction. Some of the witnesses, Mr. Watts r and it ofv woo ds, had borne testimony to the marvellous and wonderful M accur acy of the reports in The Sun, notwithstandi n g the en doors on the part of the plaintiff to show that when a re porter was totally incompetent to report for any other news naner be was fully competent to report for that highly re srp-erco'hle. and largely-circulated newspaper, The Sun H a fe in lt u convineed that the Jury would give that weight to that in felt st i o nlit eh served. Now the question before the Court upon the w as not whether the reports in The Sun were accurate secesd i " ue or not , but vihether or not the plain iff was unfit to f r per 0 111 of a reporter in the House of Commons. Now he the should etid show most clearly to the Ju-y that the plaintiff was total ly incompetent to 'perform i re duty. As the jury must a paper lika The Sun quired the most competent be Ogr e ' oa account of the haste with which the reports rweeproerro t ' 'up. Now, in order to show that Mr. Nelson was ipo i vyn n feh e ai o tr o cel:Tili f eel: ti n t,s swsua nnat ,s,he should call Mr. Feeney; one of the reporters who would state to the Jury that he had re behind the plaintiff while he was taking notes, invariably obliged to correct, and, in some in sthtaaiticiefSoto be destroy altogether. Mr. Feeney would also state reports of the plaintiff had been allowed insertion ' they would have injured that paper very The SO much. Tin Parliament, would now have full reports of what wasin Parliament, and, for the furnishing of which, took p is • pre-eminent. He agreed with the plaintiff that Repo rters of the proceedings in Parliament had a very the arduous to perform ; but to perform that duty properly, it a ut y was re quisite to have a thorough knowledge of Parliamentary p h r a a d et a ie l l e t ea which the plaintiff seemed most profoundly iff- Proceeding' s ' of According to the evidence of Mr. Wood, if a person norant. brains of the plaintiff without a knowledge of the usages of Parliament, he would be totally unftt to attribPuater(lislncntary Reporter. He did not meats to say that be a was not a good classic scholar, nor did he wish to Mr. Nelsoil to him his own figures of speech, such as an illiterate ija aghter)—but lie must say that it was apparent clown— that he had anything but a good Reporter ; and as a proof of that he wal to refer to some of the laintiff's own rerts. : aniCY ounsel then read several p of the plaintiff' po s own The Learn c w o o m u p ld os p it u i t ort which created considerable laughter in Court. He ' to the Jury whether a newspaper having any regard to its own such could keep in its employment a person who could furnish such absurd reports of what took place in Parliament. The pro r i o ter of The Sun newspaper had no ill-feeling what- P. gr. Nelson, but he had felt himself bound for his ever agaiaP • h ' 1 0 it n iga t t h i o on w , bole own interest to disc arge him. With respect to the present jr. Nelson had himself alone to thank for it. the Learned Counsel felt convinced that the a ury, on c g o iliideration of the evidence that had been given end bearing , mind that no contract had been shown, would give their verdict in favour of the defendant. mr. D. k i, Feeny—ls a reporter of about 12 years' stand newspaper. ing, and f ; rs everal years Parliamentary reporter to The Sun The plaintiff acted as a reporter for The Sun for three or f o ur nights at the commencement of the present line Sess ionstag wsuahs . s ei witness took notes at the same time with plaintiff, corrected plaintiff's report. Almost every q n se a ° e slip rate, i s Y w h i a e n h d 1 w ) l witness fr s obligedw h a o s dw rit ten , i n a some cases ohsti to e destroy the from his own notes. In witness's opinion a report taken Plaintiff was q uite incompetent to report the Parliamentary t p h r e o proceedings, ni n , ( o l he seemed to be quite unacquainted with of the House. His reports were full of gross blunders in The s a u n n d , 0 r any urdities. If such reports had been inserted other newspaper, they would materially engaged, and they injure its char Had ample opportunity of judging of the during the three or four nights he was 5) plaintiff's cone e o ri p " inion was that he was totally incompetent. Witness was which he g r i e lt a e d: i Destroyed altog e Wsther two or three dozen clips of the plaintiff. msenlofc.hnhanded some of the defendant's reports, th the corrections subsequently made by him of these extraordinary reports occasioned Juts here rose and said that it was really a waste on any further. They were all men of bu d their time to ot like to be detained there all day. He and siness, and did Le believed his the jurymen had made up their minds two if they sat there till to-morrow morning they hours ago, and would be of &Vine opinion. ea legal right, and I am determined to ex- Plaintiff—l V I ercise it. t be witness)—Had you any conversation with Plaintiff (to engagement the defendant sbo lit my Witness— ye, he told me that he had taken you on trial, is ach afraid you would break down, you were but he was very so flighty and illi - - ' steady, and that it would be necessary to watch you dos& • ,Tliitt . is a question I could not have asked the Mr. Cruawrieti tive w d i t t h n e es c s o vi n . t a r s aa c t; sp lama's examination has completely nega witness ; but the!' toyed to report other besides Parliamen tary proceedhw for The Sun. p l i tinticf _ i F t s he British Association of Science pitched their ei aouc Thetlir: 813:ertselg you undertake to report their pro camp in London, "uld clever as other eeedings? ceived a classeicaarli although I don't pretend to be so Wit:len c er tsia l Y , c oons.—( Much laughter.) Witness had r my occupation by P e ducation. Witness—l do; Plaintiff— u state when you were first apprised of Ole defendant ? understand you. The Cor t er___V c. uite uni c nt a e T I I I Question repeale d ' e witness cannot answer questions which Pla qintiff— igliobui are explain what is meant by the term heliacal occultation: Witness—l keor something of astronomy, but I would whether I am bound to enter upoa an submit to the C O O 4 astronomical lectere. lam obliged to attend the House of The COURT— Commons at four o i c i "" nothing to do with c e rtainly not, Sir. These questions have plaintiff was reportitli Mr. William Ibc on c — as l e las been for seven or eight years a from what he had Parliamentary re Lakerott on The Sun newspaper. When Mr. f ise employed witness took notes while the Feeney was othcpr and subsequently corrected hisreporta which were extremeli on The Sun no P vvs aP er ' naccurate. Witnesa considered plaintiff in that establish:el; s een of his reports quite incompetent to tary proceecEngs. Witness had been report the Parham° taken on trial of the plaintiff's rep orts w revol ts to obtaining a permanent engagement and that is the course usually observe I Mr. J. Mackay—. full of absurdities aedreader to The Sun newspaper. The slips those of the other rel ere submitted to him, along with ;oilers. They were extremely incur The Learned JOO 6 roe% H e h ad ande eomplaints to the defendant of then - being Jury. The first poiet a contract had been errors. No reporter had ever scot such slips to the office O re ' plaintiff, and if they then they would haveE then summed up the evidence to the for them to consider was, whether such had been entered Fade out as was contend-A for by the then, no doubt, on tile were of opinion that had been established, the plaintiff; but to consider the question as to the plain tiff's competency, by the defendant, 1( they believed then such an agreement in to as was contended for by the plaintiff, first plea they must find a verdict for the defendant to say, i f they believed, as was contended for Mr. Nelson a trial, he the sort which that the real contract was not of 0 contended for by the plaintiff, of the session, althoug4 but a mere taking on trial, then it would be highly unjust to that he was a good scho l a r, t hat because he had consented to give should be bound to keep blot to the end short step indeed to th e p'aintiff hid gme Lei a gre.t deal of evide.:ce to rave he could crake no use of him. The that Mr. Nelson w as a well educated man, yet twat was a very , but although it might be taken great question between the par ties, because it w as qu it° clear that a man might be a very good s c h o l ar - i a deed, and well • qualified for high departm e nts in literator° , and no t poss ess that p articular tart which constit uted A good Reporter. Still if the pla intiff was a good Parliam enta ry Reporter, he would have to satisfy the Jury the enga geme nt was such as lie contended. The Learned Judge hayi n g read the cridevec to the Jury in a very clea r and disti nct at all—or whether manner, left it -to th:m tengagement,first, whether the pl a intiff had made out any engagement, whether iF a contract had been proved the us - H en ce did not he had been merely on trial ; an d secondly, show that he was wh o lly incompetent, an d unfit to d:scharge the duties of a Parliin i catary reporter. If Mr. Young tool; a person on trial, and fo il ed him incompetent, he had a perfect right to discharge him. The Jury immediately returned a verdict for the defend n t. The trial did not terminate till half. --...•••111 nast four o'clock, arid the patience and attention with which the Learned Judge and the Jury attended to its details was most exemplary. COMMON PLEAS.-(THIS DAY.) hAIdETT V. NFAVIIIAN n tin OTHERS. in fins 6a.te the plairtil eras connected with extensive col lieries in the county of Durham, and the defendant, the rgrtit to the Stockton and Darlington Railway Company. The action was brought to recover the sum of 1,2001., being the amount of the rate of tolls which had been paid to the dr. fendants from July to October in 1835, and the question in volved property amounting to 2,0001. a year. Ultimately a special verdict was taken with liberty to have the subject argued before the Court of Common Pleas next Term. LLOYD'S SHIPPING.-(THIS DAY.) DEAL, JUNE 30. —Wind N. E.—Arrived the Heb.., Han nington, from Limerick. PORTSMOUTH, JUNE 30. —Wind E.—No arrivals. POOLE, JUNE 30.—Arrived the Dolphin from Newfound land ; Experiment, Tuck, do. FALMOUTH. JUNE 29.—Variable.—Arrived the Transit from Malaga, 19, Gibraltar 20, Cadiz 21, Lisbon 25. SclLLT.—Arrived off the William Ernest, from Batavia ; Wrams, Angostura. BRISTOL, JUNE 30.—Arrived the Tate, from Memel. LIVERPOOL, .JUNE 30.-N. N. \V.—Arrived the Mary Jones, Fisher, from Monte Video; Ruby, Rio Janeiro; Rapid, Rio Grande. Off port, the Reliance, Charleston. CORK, JUNE 28. - Arrived the Governor, from London ; Oberon, Bremen, leaky, and must discharge, bound to Nov York. HULL, JuNE 30. Arrived the X YZ, Lightfoot, and Thomas, Colly, from Wyburg Hoghton, Hunter, from Riga; Velsen gen, from Copenhagen; and Navy, Frankist, from St Petersburg. GRAVESEND, JUNE 30.—Arrived the Palestine, from Trini dad ; Susan, and Sussex, from Guernsey ; Kent, and Mag net, from Boulogne; John Wood, from Havre; and Thisbo, from Jamaica. Sailed the Euphemia, for Antigua ; Podi, for Trieste ; Royal Sovereign, for Calais ; Soho, and Marv, for Antwerp ; Lamia, for Guernsey ; London, for RAterdam ; Isabel], and Secret, for St. Michael's ; Arbutus, for Hammer fest ; Agripina, for Cape of Good Hope ; Queen Adelaide, for Havre; and Emerald, for Boulogne. COURT CIRCULAR. Lord Holland, accompanied by Mr. Frederick Danvers, Clerk of the Council and Registrar of the Duchy Court of Lancaster, had an audience of the Queen at Kensington Palace yesterday afternoon. His Lordship gave up his seals of office (as Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster), which her Majesty was graciously pleased to return to the Noble Lord. The Duchess of Kent, and the Princess of Leiningen vi sited the Duchess of Glocester and the Princess Augusta yesterday. The Queen gave audiences yesterday to Viscount Melbourne and Lord Glenelg, at Kensington Palace. The (two) Princes of Hohonlohe Langenburg visited and t)ok leave yesterday of the Duke of Sussex and the other mem bers of the Royal Family. Their Serene Highnesses dined in the evening at Kensington Palace. The remains of his late Majesty will lie in state in the Wa terloo Chamber, at Windsor Castle, between the hours of ten and four on Friday next, the 7th inst., and between ten and three o'clock on Saturday next, the Bth instant. The agent for Antigua, attended by Messrs. Edwards and Hodge, members of the House of Assembly, had an interview with Lord Glenelg yesterday at the Colonial-office, on the present calamitous situation of that island. The Duke of Norfolk had an interview with Viscount Mel bourne yesterday in Downing-street. The Belgian Minister transacted business yesterday at the Foreign-office. A great number of workmen are engaged in repairing and fitting up the interior of Marlborough-house, Pall-mall, the residence of the Queen-Dowager. WINDSOR, June 30.—Duke Bernard, the reigning Duke of Saxe Meiningen, is expected to arrive at the Castle to-morrow from the continent. His Serene Highness is brother of the Queen Dowager. The Prince of Ilohenlohe Langenburg, and his brother, the Prince Gustavus, left yesterday for town, where they will re main till to-morrow, and will then take their departure for the continent. The state coffin is expected to arrive to-morrow night from town. The covered way for the funeral procession from the Castle to the Chapel is nearly complete; the preparations within St. George's Chapel are also advancing. The public will be admitted (without tickets) to the Castle on Friday and Saturday to the lyining in state. THE MONMOUTH BOROUGHS. (FROM A CORRESPONDENT.) You are aware 'that Mr. Hall, the present Member for the Monmouthshire Boroughs, some time since declared his in tention of not again off:ring himself as a candidate. In the address announcing this determination Mr. Hall complained, and not without reason, of the great expense he had been put to in his different contests for the representation of the 13o roughs ; first, with the present Duke of Beaufort, and on the last occasion with Mr. Joseph Bailey, jun., the eldest son of the Welch Iron-master, who now sits in the House of Com mons as M. P. for the city of Worcester—a seat obtained by practices so notoriously corrupt as to make man blush for the frailty of his fellow-men. Mr. Joseph Bailey, jun., if not frightened by the result of a most unpromising canvass, will again offer himself as a candidate, and Mr. Hall's place will be supplied by Mr. Reginald Blewitt, a gentleman of old fa mily, of Liberal principles, possessed of great natural abilities improved by study and application, accustomed to business, highly popular in his neighbourhood, in fact, every way qua lified for the high station to which he aspires. An influential body of electors, highly to their credit, have determined upon returning Mr. Blewitt free of expense, and a handsome sub scription has already been entered into for that purpose. These Boroughs have long been a sort of heirloom in the Beau fort family: the present Duke, after being soundly beaten in two or three contests, retired in disgust, and was succeeded by the present Tory candidate, who has no more pretensions for representing the Borough than his father's valet de chambre. It is a current joke amongst the Newport electors that they will not have their town converted into a Bailey-wick. SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. LATEST BETTING AT MANCHESTER. LIVERPOOL TRADE CUP, r. r. 5 to 1 agst Lord Wilton's Gladiator 6 to 1 agst Lord Lichfield's Elis 8 to 1 agst Lord Eglinton's Black Diamond 10 to 1 agst Lord Westminster's Snyders 20 to l agst Mr. Robinson's Whaley 20 to 1 agst Lord Warwick's Pelops 25 to 1 agst Robin Hood STOCKI3I?IDGE RACES. -Y ESTERDAY. ESTERDAY. The Motisford Stakes of 25 SOTS. each, 15 ft., and 5 only if de clared, &e., with 100 sovs. added by Sir J. B. Mill, Bart. Three miles. The second horse to save his stake. The winner of the Sornersetshh - e Stakes, or the Andover Town Cup, to carry 51h., of any two, 7th. extra. Mr. Wreford's Wisdom, by Sultan Sweepstakes of 100 sovs. each, h. ft. Mile and-a-half. Mr. Greville's Mango Nat 1 Mr. Wreford's Wisdom . . Won by a neck. The Stockbridge Stakes of 15 sovs. each, 5 ft. Mile and half. Mr. Sadler'; f. by Reveller, 3 yrs.. W. Day 1 Capt. Lamb's Chit Chat, 3 yrs 2 Mr. Osbalde!ton's f. Ebb.7rstod Lass, 3 yrs \!r. Osbahkst on's Mic Mae, 3 yrs Mr. Chamberlayne's Ayesha, 4 yrs Won by a length. The Hunters' Stakes of 10 sovs. each, h. ft. Mile and half. Mr. Codrington's Victoria, 4 yrs Col. Bouverie 1 Mr. Sadler's Brother to Delight, 4 yrs Mr. D. Radcliffe's Lady Emily, 4 yrs 3 Mr. Hopkinson na Arctic, 4 yrs 4 LUDLOIV RACES.—THURSDA The Gold Cup Stakes of 10 sons. each. Twice round. Col. Salwcy na. Squirrel, 4 yrs T. Davies 1 Mr. Fowler's b. m.. Mersey, 4 yrs Won by three lengths. The Oakley Park Stakes of 10 sons. each, h. ft. Heats. Mr. Ongley's lionnington, aged - Mr. Sirdefiehl 2 1 1 Mr. Farmer's Bilbury, aged 1 2 dr The South Shropshire Stakes, of 5 says. each, with 20 added. Heats. lion. G. Hamilton na. Catamaran, 6 yrs Wallow 2 1 1 Mr. T. Walter's Sir Felix, 3 yes. Mr. Brown's Timothy, 6 yrs BUXTON RACES—THUBSDA r. The Buxton Maiden Plate of 30 sovs. Heats, twice round. Mr. West's f. by Tram, out of Florestina, 3 yrs ...... ...A lad 1 1 Mr. J. Ashton's f. by Pantaloon, 3 yrs 2 2 Mr. Milford's ch. g. Master Will, 3 yrs Lori Warwick's f. by The Colonel, 3 yrs 4 4 A good race. MONEY MARKET-FRIDAY. A very large amount of acceptances has become due within the last few days ; but, in consequnce of the timely assistance of the Bank in discounting liberally, and the warning which all parties have recently had to prepare, everything has gone off satisfactorily, and commercial mat ters generally, we are rejoiced to find, arc beginning to is suine a more wholesome appearance. Distrust is fast wearing away, and although it is, of course, still difficult to negotiate bills to any extent, yet for first-rate paper money is more abundant than it has been for souse time past. Tl:e letters from the country, also, continue to be more cheer ing, and in the manufacturing districts, where thousands of persons were out of employ, and many establishments worked but half-time, able hands arc getting daily into re quisition, and the mills are extending their operations. Yesterday morning, between eight and nine o'cloc%, a young man named Morley, rc siding in Francis -street, Com mercial-road, Lambeth, while in a state of ungovernable pas sion, arising from a quarrel with his elder brother, dashed up the window-sash of the apartment he was in (the front room on the second floor), and instantly threw himself head foremost into the street. lie fell with tremendous violence on his hack on the foot pavement, and when lifted up was insensible an.l bleeding profusely from the mouth. Ile was removed to Guy's Hospital, where he was found to be suffering under a violent concussion of the brain, and also severe internal bodily injury. No hope is entertained of his surviving. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, JUNR 30. The Lotiv eiiitNcF.Lboa, Lord SHAFTESBURY, and Loid DUNCANNON, as Commiiiionefs•gre the Royal Assent to the Registration and Marriages Bill, Ttiriipikes Act Continuance Bill, Recorders' Courts Bill, Shire Halls Bill, Pillory Panish ment Abolition Bill, Royal Military Canal Bill, Public Works Blreland) Bill, Ch ester an d C rewe R a il w ay Bill, London and irmingham Railway Bill, Birmingham and Derby Railway Bill, Leiceste r an d S wann i t igt o n Railway Bill, Durban and Sunderland hallway Bill, York and Noftit Midland Railway Bill, Manchest er an d Birmingham Railway sill, Merthyr T 3 d fit and Cardiff Railway Bill. London and Southampton llail way Bill, Newcastle-upon-Tyne Improvement Bill, Ipb.:!ch Improvement Bill, Ipswich Docks Bill, Brizharil Harbour and Market Bill, Belfast Harbour Bill, Warkivorth Harbour Dill, Hartlepool Pier Bill, Glossop Reservoirs Bill, Ellesmere and Chester Canal Bill, Ouse Banks Drainage Bill, Barnsley Waterworks Bill, Leeds Waterworks Bill, Bristol Court of Conscience Bill, Bristol Encroachments Bill, Bristol Parcchial Rates Bill, Shropshire and North \Vales Assurance Company Bill, West Cork Mining Company Bill, Sligo Salmon Fish eries Bill, Over (Cambridge) Inclosure Bill, \Vilkins's Estate Bill, Cearns' Estate Bill, Nairne's Estate Bill, Dean and Chapter of St. Peter's (York) Estate Bill, Rayley's Estate Bill, Hind's Estate Bill, Stewart's Estate Bill, Wigan Rectory Estate Bill, and Martin's Naturalization Bill. The LORD CHANCELLOR then took his seat on the Woolsack. Lord HATHERTON presented a petition in favour of the London Caoutchouc Company. The Duke of BUCCLE UCH presented a petition from Dundee, against the Dundee Water Works Bill. Lord HARDWICKE presented a petition from a union in Cambridge, praying that the poor tenants might be ex empted from Poor-rates. The Noble Lord concurred in the prayer of the petition, as the effect of the present law was to throw a poor man, although industrious, into prison, if un able to pay the rate ; and he thought to throw it on the owner of property would be a great good. Lotd MALMESBURY concurred in the observations of the Noble Lord, and would be glad to find that something should be done. Mr. HINDLEY, and other Members of the floute of Com mons, brought up the Manchester Gas Bill, the South Eastern Railway Bill, and several other Private Bills. The Earl of Nt - VICkLOW gave notice that on Monday he would move for a document connected with the Administra tion of Justice in Ireland at Quarter Sessions, namely— the circular letter of the Attorney-General to the different counties, requiring that all proceedings at Quarter Sessions shall be first submitted to him. Lord BROUGHAM p r esented a petition from th e inhabitants of the city of Glasgow, signed by the Chairman of a meeting of a great many thousands held there. He did not concur in all the opinions of the peti tioners, but he agreed in the fact of the matter of which they complained. The petitioners stated that great distress at present existed, and their conviction of the necessity of the repeal of the Corn-laws, or the trade of the country would be removed to other lands ; they also, in reference to the com mercial distress, prayed for an inquiry into the conduct of the Bank of England. The petitioners prayed that the bonded warehouses should be immediately opened. The Noble Lord also presented a petition against Church-rates from Blackburn. Also a petition from the ministers of thirty-three churches of the Baptist congregations in Pembrokeshire, to the same effect; and also that the Regium Donuni should be disconti nued, and that this fund, and the riches of the Church of Ire land, should be appropriated to the education of the people. Also petitions against Church -rates, from places in Suffolk and Norfolk, and from the Dissenters of Ipswich. Also a petition from the shopkeepers of Edinburgh, praying for the rejection of certain clauses in the Small Debts ( Scot land) Bill. Also a petition from a public meeting held in the Tower Hamlets against Church-rates. Also a petition from .Mr. Thomas Hopper, complaining of the manner in which the competition for building the Houses of Parliament was arranged; also a petition from 1,400 inhabitants of Lon don, praying that the National Gallery, St. Paul's, West rainster Abbey, and public institutions should be opened to the public. Lord HATHERTON could not 'allow the petition to pass without saying a few words upon the subject, which he was glad had at last been taken up. The people of this country had always, as regarded the public institutions, and works of art, been in a disadvantageous position when compared with other countries. It was a disgrace to Government and Parliament that such disadvantages should exist ; tending as the admission to all the institutions would do to promote re finement. And had any evil result occurred in the shape of the destruction of property by the increased admission of the public to the British Museum and other Institutions? He thought that free admissions should be given to St. Paul's, Westminster Abbey, a part of the Tower, the National Gal lery, and other Institutions.—( Hear, hear, hear.) He really thought that such Institutions should be open for two days in the week gratuitously, and that on other days a charge might be made for admission. The Earl of WICKLOW moved that a message be sent to the Commons for the.first and second reports of the Select Committee on Fictitious Votes (Ireland). Lord CANI PE RDOWN presented a petition from Dundee, in favourof the Dundee Water Works. The Marquis of WE STM EA TH moved that the House re solve itself into a Committee upon the Right of Recoveries of Presentations Bill. The LORD CHANCELLOR opposed the Bill ; and after a short conversation, the motion was postponed till Monday. COMMON LAW COURTS BILL. Lord DENMAN moved the second reading of this Bill. The object of the Bill was to abolish certain offices in tl e Courts of Queen's Bench and Common Pleas, and to appoint five Masters for each Court. •In the first year of the rcien of his late Majesty, on the motion of Sir Robert Peel, a Com mission was appointed for the purpose of inquiring into the nature of the offices now proposed to be abolished, and the remuneration which was received for the same. A strong feeling was then entertained that it would be impossible to do away with those offices unless by purchase, on account of the vested interests of the parties who held them. At length it was decided that they should receive compensation according to a scale then settled upon ; but as no provision was made to abolish the offices, it was now necessary to introduce the Bill, in order to effect that object. The chief of that Commission was his Learned Friend Mr. Sergeant Goulburn, who intro duced this Bill into the other House ; and he (Lord Denman) must say that he had never heard of the measure until he had been called upon by the Learned Sergeant. It had been stated that the Learned Judges who presided over those Courts had refused to sanction the measure, unless five masters were ap pointed. He (Lord D.) begged to say that this was absolutely false, and that no such proceeding had taken place. Another object of the Bill was to reduce the sysvem of taxation in the different Courts to one uniform scale. It was proposed to give each of the new masters 12,000/. per annum, and the first name mentioned for that office was Mr. Le Blanc, the present Master of the Queen's Bench. It was then proposed to appoint the two assistants of that gentleman, and Mr. Dwarris, a Barrister of the Midland Court, a personal friend of his own, and the fifth was a near relation of his own, but be believed, in his conscience, that there was no man better qua lified for the office, for he had been an attorney, and was just about to bo, called to the 13,:r. He could assure the House that he had made this appointment without the slightest per sonal interest, and he thought that he should be doing wrong if, under those circumstances, he had refused to serve one so closely connected with him. These were the objects of the Bill, and he, therefore, trusted that the House would agree to the second reading. Lord ELLENBOROUGH said that the Noble Lord had recommended the Bill on two grounds. First, on the ground of rendering the machinery of the Court more effectuel ; and secondly, en the ground of economy, lle would not vote for the Bill on the ground of economy, but, taking the Noble Lord's authority, he would vote for it on the first ground. There *was no reduction which would be effected by this Bill which could not be done under the Act of the year 1825, and he therefore objected to it on this head. In addition to shit, he thought the patronage which was to be created by this Bill ought to he given to those who had the patronage of the offices proposed to be abolished. . . Lord WYNFORD said that the introduction of an uni form system of taxation would be of itself sufficient to re commend the Bill to the favourable consideration of the Howe. lie therefore gave his most hearty concurrence to the Big. Lord L ANC D ALE agreed in the most important details of the Bill, many of which were better than those of the Bill of last year ; but still there -.cue several objections, which he could wish to see got rid of. His principal difficulty arose with respect to the clauses gran ti ng com p ensat i on . y lt was for the common benefit of the country that those useless offices should be abolished, in order to procure a more cheap and speedy administration of justice. It was, therefore, unfair to impose the expenses on those who might hereafter be suitors in the Courts of Justice. He certainly thought that that ex pense should be defrayed out of the Consolidated Fund, and fall generally upon the country. With respect to the 24th clause, he wished also to make one observation. That clause proposed to give compensation to certain offices, on the ground that they were saleable ; but he had yet to be convinced that any offices in Courts of Justice were, or ever had been, sale able by the law of the land. That compensation had, there fore, been placed on a wrong footing. Those were the prin cipal parts which be considered objectionable, and, having re ferred to them, he readily consented to the second reading of the measure. After a few words from Lord WYNFORD, Lord AB ING E R did not approve of that part of the Bill which went to disappropriate the officers of their fixed situa tions in the respective Courts. It appeared to him that every officer should have a fixed station in a particular Court ; for if the officers were appointed in common for all the Courts the greatest confusion must result from their passing from one Court to another. He did not agree in the jastiee of the re marks of his Noble and Learned Friend with regard to the compensation clauses of the Bill. He could see no ream why the public should not have the benefit of that compensa tion being paid out of the surplus fees. Lcrd BROUGHAM approved most highly of the object of this Bill, which was to procure the effectual introduction of an uniform system of taxation in all the Courts. ILI , agreed that the compensation ought to be paid by the public, fur the measure was intended for the public Benefit, and to increase the amount of saving which had already been 'effected by si milar measures. It would afford that House a strong ninon for proceeding with this Bill to state that by a similar trea sure in the registrars' atid masters' offices there had air( aly been a saving of 22,000/. and 12,0001. a. year, and a's) a saving to the suitors' fund of nearly 20;000!. per year. The LORD CHANCELLOR felt great pleasure in con firming thd statement of his Noble and Learned Friend as to the sav i ng which had been effected. Lord DENMAN said that uudoubtedly that sating afror led them an example and encouragement to proceed with simil Bills. It had been said that the Judges bad met the object „s 1 this Bill by lowering the fees according to their own discr.!. tion ; but it was impossible for their interference to be entire' effectual. He heartily concurred in the principle stated b his Noble and Learned Friend, that patronage was not th subject of compensation' at all, and ought to bear no pecu niary interest • but the practice which had existed so long, n'S making it the subject of pecuniary interest, afforded some grounds for compensation; and in such a case he did not thinq' it expedient to have regard merely to theoretical and abstrac t; principles. He felt very great satisfaction that the Bill had' In en so well received ; and he could assure the House thit he was most ready to take any propositions into his consideration. The Bill was then read a second time. WILLS BILL. Upon the motion of Lord LANGDALE, the Commons' amendments on this Bill were agreed to. The LORD CHANCELLOR moved the third reading of the Bankrupt (Ireland) Bill. Lord BROUGHAM stated that, in order to render the mea-, sure intellig ble, it would be necessary to introduce some for-; mai amendments, and for that purpose he wished their Lord-; ships to adjourn the consideration of the Bill for a short time.l The Bill was accordingly postponed, and their Lordships ; then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, JLrzc 30. The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour. Mr. HODGES moved that the Lords' Amendments to the , Leith Eastern Railroad be agreed to. The SPEAKER observed that when there were such al number of amendments, it would be proper to have them ferred back to the Committee for the next Session, as it would be a saving of much time. Sir H. PARNELL brought up the Report of the Com mittee on the Dundee Police Bill. On the motion of Mr. BROTHERTON the Manchester te t. Gas Bill was read a third time and passed. On the motion of the same Hon. Member, the Lords' amendments to the North 4 Midland Railway were agreed to. LOUGH SWILLY AND LOUGH FOYLE DRAINAGE. Mr. O'CONNELL moved that the order for taking consideration the report of the Committee on the Lough" Swilly and Lough Foyle Drainage Bill be discharged—the ' day's notice required by the Standing Orders not having been complied with. Ald. WOOD opposed the motion. It was taking the parties promoting the Bill - completely by surprize, and he was not aware that it had been intended to offer any opposition to the further progress of the measure—a measure which was calculated to effect much good in Ireland by the employ ment of hundreds of labourers. If the Hon. and Learned Ni Member intended to oppose the Bill, he could have an op portunity on the third reading. After a few words from Mr. %VILKS against the motion, Mr. NV. PATTEN would suggest to the Hon. and Learned. ; Member the propriety of withdrawing his motion, as he would have another opportunity of opposing it when the Chairman and other promoters of the Bill were present. Mr. O'CONNELL thought the merits of the Bill had been greatly exaggeraltd, but he should be glad to hear frogs': the Speaker whether the want of a day's notice did not war-'. l ' rant him in discharging the order. The SPEAK ER said the House had taken the Bill out of'' the ordinary course by enlarging the time for snaking the Report, and as the parties opposing the Bill could not at that period of the Session be taken by surprise, he did not ace any necessity for enforcing a regulation which might be ad-'r;' vantageous at the commencement of the Session. Mr. O'CONNELL would at once acquiesce in the decision of the Chair, and would not press his motion.—The motion: was then, by leave, withdrawn. CORK AND PASSAGE RAILWAY. The HON. and LEARNED MEMBER then brought up the Re-1 port of the Committee on the Cork and Passage Railway Bill (No. 2), and moved that it be taken into further consideration to-morrow.—Agreed to. MONTROSE HARBOUR BILL. On the motion of Mr. DILLWYN, the Lords' amendments to the Montrose Harbour Bill were agreed to. GREAT WESTERN RAILWAY. On the motion of Mr. JEIt V I S the Lords' amendments to Great Western Railway Bill were agreed to. Sir JOHN WROTTESLEY hoped that measures would, be taken next session, to prevent these Railway Bills being' hurried through at the close of the session. SLAMANNAN RAILWAY. On the motion of Mr. HINDLEY, the Lords' Amendments to the Slamannan Railway Bill were agreed to. 61 Mr. GI L LON presented a petition from Linlithgow in fa- -, 7 . your of the Prison (Scotland) Bill. Mr. MAXWELL presented a petition from 2,000 loom weavers ....' in Spitalfields, complaining of distress. He hoped that the Government would speedily adopt some measures for'. the relief of so deserving a class of the community. He moved , that the petition be printed, as it was intended to bring the,. subject under the consideration of the House on the 4th July. r., Mr. CHALMERS presented a petition from the Town q, Council and Chamber of Commerce, from places in Scotland;' in favour of the Prison (Scotland) Bill; and another fromti Cie Handloom Weavers of Montrose, complaining of distress,. and praying that the the quantity of corn in bond might beV. taken out ?or their relief. Mr. SHAW LEFEVRE brought up the report of the. Committee on the Highway Rates Bill. ' vi Si Mr. WYS E presented a petition from certain inhabitants of :it; the city of Waterford, praying that the House would adopt a:I system of national education ; and another from two Cleray-s7 men of Newfoundland, complaining of the conduct of Mr. Bolton, Chief Justice of that Island. ;$ 1 Mr. O'CONNELL requested to know whether the Hon. Member was about to submit any motion on the subject to theti House ? Mr. WYSE replied that it had been his intention to move for a Select Committee to inquire into the subject, but as the Session was advanced, he would reserve it for a future day. 6:',J Lord G. LENNOX moved the further consideration of tr,l 4 l le Brighton Railway Bill. Ni _.__ Captain PECHEIL presented a petition, numercuslyo signed by a respectable portion of the inhabitants of Brighton.o in favour of a direct line of railroad between that town and tiler. metropolis. Mr. %1 IGNEY supported the prayer of the petition. Sir RICHARD AI USG RAVE presented a petition fronik 0.2 Waterford for the total abolition of Church.rates. 1. 4 Cal. LOWTHER presented a petition from Westmcre-J land against the Poor Law Amendment Bill. Dr. BOWRING presented a petition from Kilrnarnock.N against the mode at present adopted of constituting SeleetP7Z4 Committees of the House. • Mr. SHAR AIA N CRAWFORD presented a petition from`; Clackmannan, in the county of Louth, against the GovermentM: measure for the settlement of tithes in Ireland. f . Mr. MORE O'FARRELL presented a petition from s q paesh in the county of Kildare, to the same effect. The Usher of the Black Rod appeared at the table, and!-4 gummoncd the House to the House of Lords to hear the RoyatFi. Aisent given to several Bills. After being absent for near half an hour, the Speaker returned and read over a list of thes, Bilis which had beccme Acts of Parliament, for which see! Lords' Report. POST-OFFICE. Mr. LABOUCHERE said that one of the Bills for theSl durpose of consolidatinr the laws relative to the Pusti: ()Mee 11,1:1 been returned by the House of Lords with s amendment, which might be considered fatal to the during the present session. as it was in the natureip of an alteration of a money clause.—( Hear, hear.) that alteration was considered fatal to the Bill, he gave notice that it was his intention to move for leave to bring in anotbcrV measure on the subject. r. The SPEAKER thoullit that the alteration was one the House ought to look to with a most jealous rye, and noir,: sanction. _ _ _ . r?. An Hos. MEMBER said that the intention of the inser tion of the words in the clauses were to rave an infracti94,4; - of the rights of a private individual ; aiid that it was under- 1 0 stood that the Post-office should not be put in a better EtatdAi than it was in before the passing of the Bill. Mr. LABO UC ERE had bad it from excellent legal. authority, the Solicitor for the Post Office, that the rights • the individual alluded to would not be impaired or injured I,yo the provisions of the Bill. 14 After a few words from Mr. BARING, the Bill was withdrawn, and leave was given to Me. Labouchere to bringN in anew Bill. OFFICERS OF MARINES. On the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER movinEr,R, the Order of the Day for the House going into Committee oflZ Ways and Means, Lord G. LENNOX said he wished to ask the Secretary to the Admiralty a question. Three months ago he had brought! the suhject.of the promotion of the Officers of Marbles before ► the House ; four of the officers be then mentioned had sine; died, and he wished to ask whether be Admiralty hzd agreed 47 upon any plan relative. to that corps. He trusted that that plan would be so extensive that the officers of that corps ex pected a permanent advancement. Mr. C. WOOD said that there were certain measures E; agreed upon by the Admiralty, which were ready to be carried!! into effect, but that delay had ta k e n p lace in conse q uence oti i the impediment there had been to ail public business. Anle order in council had been passed, which he hoped would afford 4 permanent relief to the officers of the Marines. POOR LAWS. _ The Marquis of CHANDOS begged to ask the Hon. Mem-I ber for Peterborough, who was CL:irmati of the Committee upon the Poor Laws, whether the Com:nittee had made any% enquiry into the sums of money borrowed by . a workhouse h.') Buckinghamshire 7—( As we understood the Nob.`; Lnrd. ) f t Mr. FAZAKERLY said the inquiries of the to."."mitteo bad been, limited to certain Unions in San, x and Wiltsh::e, t‘, and no ii‘quiry had taken place upcu the subject. STATE OF IRELAND. Mr. SHAW begged to ask the 117)n - .atTd Learned idea-9 ber for Kilkenny, whether he intended to proceed with notice which he had given relative to the .state of Ireland ?*: It was very inconvenient to have pae% a notice standin ,, upon paper at a time when Hon. Members were likely to be of town. Ho would be glad to know whether the Honour -,1 able Member meant to move upon it, and wh,•n— Mr. O'CONNELL—I do not mean to renew the notic - ,S nor do I mean to bring it on to day.--(" Hear," and latvhter. TiIAMES TUNNEL. Mr. wL TER ATE said that he had only within the last hour discovered that a Committee had been appointed relative tol the Thames Tunnel, in which his name had been ineluchd without any previous intimation, and he objected to serve on, that Committee, as one of the Directors of the Company had' been also appointed. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER ought to' apolooise for having put the Ilan. Member's name on the - 1., , Committee. withouthis consent, but he had not hid the gool (VIE SUN. L MIDON, S kTISII r)A Y. J E7I,V ;, 184.