The Sun. — London, England, 1852-05-12 00:00:00

fourtt*ton SUN OFFICE, Seven o' Clock. FRANCE. M. FRANCOIS ARAGO publishes a letter to the Mi nister of Public Instruction, in which he explains why he resigns the place of Director of the Paris Observa tory (which he has held for nearly fifty years), rather than take the oath of allegiance:— " Circumstances," says the great astronomer, " rendered me, in 1848, as member of the Provisional Government, one of the founders of the Republic. As such, and I glory in it at present, I contributed to the abolition of all political oaths. At a later period, I was named by the Constituent Assembly President of the Executive Committee ; my acts in this last named situation are too well known to the public for me to have need to mention them here. You can comprehend, Monsieur le Ministre, that in presence of these reminiscences my conscience has imposed on me a resolution which perhaps the Director of the Observatory would have hesitated to come to. I had always thought that by the terms of the law, an astronomer at the Bureau of Longitude was appointed for life, but your decision has undeceived me. I have, therefore, Monsieur le Ministre, to request yon to appoint a day on which I shall have to quit an establishment which I have been inhabiting now for near half a century." SPAIN. 'nf The evening journals have all suspended their publi cation, as well as the morning ones. The Esperanza, Epoca, Observador, Catolico, and Opinion Publica issued notices on the 4th to that effect, and the only political papers now published are the Orden and Espana. The political journals of Cadiz, Seville, Barcelona, Sze-, have also ceased to appear. Thus the Ministers hate every thing at present their own way, anti no sound of oppo sition is heard either in the tribune or the press. The Minister of Marine, General Francisco Armero, has resigned, after a conference held in Madrid with Senors Mon and Pidal, who think that matters are going too far. A council of Ministers was held subsequently at Aranjuez, at which it is said that a decree, effecting certain alterations of a restrictive character in the elec toral law, was adopted by the rest of the Cabinet, Ge neral Armero dissenting from it, and requiri ng hi a reasons against it to be entered in the minut e o f t h e meeting; and subseque ntl y a violent, scene is s a id t o have taken place betwee n him and Senor Bravo Murillo. His resignation wa s gazetted . on the sth, an d Li eu t.- General Vigodet, now Captain General of th e C a di z Naval Department., is appointed in his place, General Ezpelata acing ad znter ana in Vipdet's a" , sence. The decrees are dated the 31 i nst. It i 3 thfll , - st that other • changes will follow. TURKEY. The Vienna journals publish a telegraphic dispatch from Trieste, whcls announces that an Ottoman agent, StTLEIMA.N PACHA, arrived on the 25th ult., at Tunis, charged to present to the BEY a firmsn, conferring on him the title of Viceroy and severai decorations. The Trieste Gazette of the 21 announces that OMER PACHA, Governor of Bosnia and llerzsgowine, vho or dered the recent rigorous measures - against the Chris tian populations, has been recalled. EXCHEQUER-(TUTS DAY.) (Sittings at Nisi Prins at Wetminster, bc , fore the LonD CHIEF BARON and Et Coma :Cm Jury.) ATTORNEY-GENERAL V. BRADBURY AND EVANS,--UN• STAMPED PUBLICATIONS Mr. Puntx applied, on the part of the Commissioners of Inland Revenue, for the postponement of this case to enable the Attorney-Genertal to be present. The case had excited much interest in the public mind, and was one of very great impirtance, and it was highly desirable that the Attorney•Gc , -_cral should have an opportunity afforded him of attending to open the proceedings. Probably it would be in the recollection of his Lirdship that there was an under derstandiev.; that a further step was to be taken in the matter. The Court would have to decide whether they would allow a bill of exceptions. The CHIEF Banox inquired whether the other side had consP,nt,ci? Mr. WILLES, who appoared for• the defendants, said he ffil3 quite willing to leave the matter in the he.this the Court. The CHIEF BARON ob3crved that this was not a Crown prosecatiun at present, and inquired whether there was any objection to a bill of exceptions? Mr. WILLES had to objection to tbe case being with drawn, liberty being given to present a bill of exception:. At the same time, be would like the bill so framed that the entire question might he raised for a special verdict, fur it was one of fact as well as law. Th 9 CHIEF BARON thought that he might make acme arraugement with the other side. Mr: WILLES entertained no doubt of his being able to do so. The matter then droppi. 131PERIAL PA MA AMEN T. (THIS DAY.) HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAK ER took the Chair at Twelve o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The Liverston Waterworks Bill was read a third time and passed. The following Bills were considered and agreed to : Belfast Harbour. Gre At Western Railway. Leven Railway. London Necropolis and National Mausoleum. London and Nortb-Western Railway. PETITIONS. A considerable number of petitions were presented against :he Militia Bill, and also against the Maynooth grant, Mr. W. BARON presented a petition in favour of the ocean penny postage. Mr. COWAN presented a petition from Greenock, Against the Charitable Trusts Bill. ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE. Mr. WALPOLE moved that the House at its rising should adjourn until Friday next. Sir B. HALL complained that Members who were serving upon Committees on a Wednesday had not op portunity, in consequence of the shortness of notice, to get to the House in time for a division. He suggested that a short time should be allowed to elapse after strangers withdrew, before a division took place. Mr. W. PATTEN thought that at present no altera tion should be made in the usual practice of the House. Lord DUDLEY STUART said it was quite unne cessary, as well as very inconvenient, to require the withdrawal of strangers during a division. Captain HARRIS thought that the reporters ought to be allowed to remain in the gallery, even though the other strangers were ordered to withdraw, because it often happened that important discussions took place during their absence. Mr. GLADSTONE was against any new regulation beiag made during the present session. He thought the better plan would be to refer the subject to a Select Com mittee. Mr.WAKLEY would prefer leaving the matter in the hands of the Speaker. After a de s ultory discussion on the same subject, and also with the go reference to the ventilation and dirty state of use,th e motion for the adjournment was agreed to. LOSS OF THE BIRKENHEAD. Mr. gu stz loss of the asked a question, whether, after the late nßrnirkenhead steamer, it was the intension of the Gore s Africa to the e t n n t r to order a survey of the East Coast of were numerc es a t n hward, where the passages of vessels Mr. STAFFORDI rsc sent. under the considerati re p lied that the question had been culty had arise n in e r of the Government, but a diffi for in the years 1852 and of the surveys provided survey of this paint lnd 1853 not including a If the survey we re rim y_ part of the Cape. undertaken as extra min 1 4 would have to be however, made up their minds to 1111 e Government had, as extra work; and arrangement ave the survey made that purpose. He might Is le/ a' ion t had been effected for that the loss of the Birkenhead was hardly t o be attributed survey of the coast.. The court- mart the imperfect institute an inquiry into the loss of theial appointed to proposed to la a report, which he .vessel had made y on the table - and to have printed for circulation. on Fri day, A BO LITION OF THE PROPERTY QUALIFICA TION OF MEMBERS. In reply to Mr. HUME, Mr. TUFNELL said • he felt compelled to wi • thdraw his Bill to abolish the property qualification. of Memb ers during the present session. Ile did , so reluctantly, but if he had the honour to be ro-elected , he would brin g i t forward again at an early period next session. PARISH CONSTABLES BILL. On the moti on f or goiaginto Committee on this Bill, Mr. RICE h ope d t h a t at this period of the session. this Bill, which was a piece of experimental legislation, would not be further proceeded with. Mr. t r REVirEN defended the Bill, which he said would remedy the present anomalous state of the law in a very satisfactory and economical manner. Mr. DEEDES said he was not in a condition to ask the House to assent to the Bill as it now stood, and he would, therefore, move that they go into Comm ittee p ro forms, so as to enable hi m to introduce new and amend other clauses. The Bill then went through Committee pro forma. ABOLITION OF THE PAPER DUTY. On the order of the day being read for resuming the adjourned debate on this subject, Mr. COWAN said he had been a paper manufacturer thirty years, and daring the last twenty years he had made representations to the Government of the injustice of the tax, but unfortunately they had not been attended by any success. If the impost were removed a very great impetus would be given to the manufacture of paper.—(Hear, hear.) There was this peculiarity about the duty, that it not only involved a protracted survey, but a variety of details were to be recorded by the manufacturer, which consume a serious amount of time. The trade was severly depressed by th excise laws, and it was the duty of the House to see whether some measures ought not to be adopted to re medy th e • evil. The evils which the paper manufac tory. suffered from the long and dreary drudgery " to which it was subject these burdens. The such as entitled it to 3 relief fromments for th e mantle success of many large establish cramped, and in many of paper had l: en entirely duties to which th e cramped, instances crushed by the hea v y Bight Hon. the chaWnce:o subject. He hoped that the take the proposition ii343-4ZUG,,Exejscqucr would The ooket of the propeati,i,„.*4 -4 'd t . retries puns: era ton. tain immediate reliett u t tt ,714, 'neiti 01 much to ob. tendon of the Govefirinent - `3?111'.-c . i.saupon the at- Mr. GLADSTONE said.thiie was nrulotibt i that it was extremely iuconveniZtfor- 1-1 - ---;74Atsrebcrs, boweverr inju rious they might think any particular tsx to.b themselves unconditionally to its iremedistae, to pledge hoped that it wag Weil understood pal. He .list, for the present year at least, they were to rally round the Chancellor of the Exchequer in opposition to any attempt to repeal any tax. Two branches of the question—that relative to the paper used in the packing of manufactured articles, and that which was employed in the printing of newsp a pers, had been fully brought before the House; but there was another branch, the consumption of paper in the printing of literary works, to which he wished more particularly to call the attention of the House. He hoped that when the Chancellor of the Exchequer felt him self in a position to be able to propose a reduction of this tax to the House ho would take care not to lend himself to throwing away the public revenue for the profit of combinations. At the present moment a most interesting and important struggle was going forward In the bookselling trade, by which a number of booksellers were attempting by restrictions, most imprudent, in his opinion, to prevent the price of books being mitigated even to the extent of a few shillings per cent. by the energy and enterprise of certain of the retail dealers, who were disposed to afford the benefit to the public. This struggle was at present being adjudicated on by Lord Campbell, Mr. Grote, and the Dean of St. Paul's, and by their judgment the London booksellers had agreed to abide.—(Hear, hear.) The publishers of books in London were in the habit of supplying the re tail bookseller at a discount of 25 per cent, and they in their turn for the most part sold them to none of the public at a reduction of less than 10 per cent., leaving to the retail dealers 15 per cent. Some of the retail dealers said that they could give a greater dis count, but the combined booksellers opposed to this declared that if the others did not come under an engagement not to allow a greater discount, they would shut them out from the trade, and, in fact, deprive them of the means of gaining their livelihood. Now this restriction was in his opinion a great evil; it had gone near to reduce the sale of books to what he might call its minimum amount, and had made the state of the book market in this country a dis grace to civilization. We had in this country, perhaps, the largest educated reading public, and which also ought to be the greatest book-buying public, bat with the Exception of certain great authors, such as Mr. Mac a ulay, scar c e ly an y new b o ok had a sale of more than 500 volumes, and those which passed this were certainly not mere than from one-tenth to one twentieth of the whole number published. Going into a friend's house one did not find new books lying on his table, except such as were rendered necessary by their professional character, but there was something from the circulating library or the book club. And what were these book clubs but ingenious expedients, which men had adopted to mitigate the monstrous evils which they had experienced from the enormously high price of books? Another consequence was, that the printers, in their turn, finding the book trade combined against the public, thought they might as well have a share in the spoil, and combined against the book trade, and it was a fect that in London, Oxford, and Cam bridge, the printing of books was 25 per cent. dearer than in the other towns of the kingdom. Another consequence was, the treaties which we had entered into with continental nations for the protection of cur book trade, and the regulations which we attempted to esta hlish in the colonies for the same purpose were entirely feustrsted by the high price of English buoke. There were more faculties, he believed, in this country for the production of cheap books than in any c,thcr—(Llear)— and so far as quality wan concerned, we could no produce cheaper books than could he produced anywhere else. He hoped in conclusion, that, when the Chancellor of the Exchequer felt himself more able to lay this tax before the House, with a view to its reduction, he would take care that the public revenue was not thrown away for the sake of one interest. Sir W. CL AY considered that the first of the series of resolutions of the Right Hon. Gentleman having refer ence to the paper duty, was one bound up inseparably with the several questions of Excise duties, and he would, therefore, advise the Right Hon. Gentle man to abandon that portion, and rely on the . two latter ones—the abolition of the advertisement duty and the penny stt.mp. He saw no reason why these two should not be taken into consideration at once without delay. Mr. MOWATT thought that this question was inti mately connected with the education and employment of the people. The fact was that they took a far greater sum from the people in the shape of paper duties than they spent on them in education, and with regard to the question cf employment, the paper duty deprived the people of the means of gaining their living to an extent far greater than tha amount which those duties produced. He instanced the immense number of persons employed in France in the manufacture of paper boxes; and the fact that the American traders bought in England, at the very doors of the cotton-mills, the refuse of those mills, curried it off to America, and manufactured it into paper, which they carried to our colonies, and undersold there our own manufacturers. Mr. REYNOLDS called upon the Government to abolish this tax in the case of Ireland as one instalment of the compensation which was due to her for the in juries which legislation had inflicted on her. The abo lition of these taxes would be a great boon to Ireland; it would encourage industry there, and lead to the ma nufacture of the fibrous particles of the red bog, 4f atraw, and of flax into paper. Mr. O. RICARDO thought that the repeal of the newspaper duties would be a great boon to the Attor ney-General, for, as far as the penny stamp was con cerned, no man was in a greater difficulty than that Hon. and Learned Gentleman. It was quite uncertain whe ther the Government meant to prosecute the Household Narrative. The ATTORNWZ-GENERAL—We do. Mr. 0. RICARDO —lt appeared that another publi cation had come under the notice of the Stamp-office, the Stoke Narrative of Events, but the Government having failed to obtain a conviction in the first case, on the ground that the publication was not stamped, had dug up an old Act, which prohibited any monthly publica tion being brought oat on any but the two days before or after the first of the month. He should like to hear an explanation of the intentions of the Attorney-General as to those prosecutions, for it must be remembered that a Government prosecution was a very serious matter. If a defendant succeeded he did not get costs, and if he failed he had to pay both sides. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that the idea that these prosecutions against newspapers which might be thought to violate the stamp duty originated with the Attorney-General, was an erroneous one, they originated for the most part with the Stamp-office, and the At torney-General rarely heard anything of the case until the brief was put into his hand to prose cute the matter.—(Hear, hear.) With regard to the Household Narrative, proceedings had been commenced to bring the question to an issue, and a special case had been submitted to the Court of Exchequer. The opinion of the Court was not unani mous, and his (the Attorney-General's) predecessors not being satisfied with the decision, had taken proceedings to have it brought before a superior court, and on coming into office he had thought it his duty, and for the interest of the public, that the law should not be left in that uncertain state which this de cision left it in, had continued these proceedings, and a special verdict was in course of being prosecuted. As to the Stolle Narrative, he had never heard of it, or the proceedings against it, except in that House. With re gard to the question of costs, the Government neither paid nor received costa; and he certainly did not think this was fair to defendants. They ought to have some protection, and ho had long had it in contemplation to introduce some measure on the subject. Mr. MACGREGOR supported the repeal of the paper duty, thinking it would be a stimulus to i n d us t ry . Mr. HUME thought that if the surplus in the hands of the Chancellor of the Exchequer were devoted to the repeal of these taxes, instead of paying bounties to militia volunteers, it would be much more gratifying to the country. Mr. KER SEYMER objected to the paper;duties, in die first place, as being Excise duties, and in the second cations; but considering that it had been a g reed place, as interfering with the c i r culation of chea p publi among the Honourable Gentlemen opposite that the whole question of taxation should be left to the conside ration of a new Parliament, he should now oppose the present motion. Mr. WAYLEY could see no reason why the Chan cellor of the Exchequer should have voted for this mo tion last year, and now that he got into office oppose it. He thought the conduct of the Government in renewing the prosecution against the Household .Narrative was most reprehensible, and especially when the man thus selected to be dragged into a court of justice was Charles Dickens. He thought the author of " Vivian Grey" ought to blush at sanctioning any such proceeding. Mr. KNIGHT admitted that booksellers and paper manufacturers would be entitled to the abolition of the duty if the duty on the importation of foreign books and Paper were repealed, and if they were placed in the same Position as that of the farmers in regard to the imports. tion of corn. Farmers were subject to free trade and had great burdens to bear, but the particular inte rests on waa affected by this question were not so, and yet it ....prroposed to relieve them from taxation. e th_ s !t h,_ s .011- resolutionMlLNEß GIBSON explained that the first which the House would divide was, sunk financial arrangements be made as would e u ar T y l' a . r per i i iz a ent to abolish the duties on paper at as the public revenue. e u possible consistent with the security of ' The CHANCELLOR' the repeal of the e. The other two resolutions were for r o s f ta t m he p and Ex C th H e E ad Q v u er E ti ß sem s e a n id t duty. nevrspae o Members were in erroridn supposing he had stated that these particular taxes had consideration of the been specifically under the no l t l that suf Government.esohaldaraeoarplus at his disposal. It was incorrect to assert that he had h On the contrary, it was merely nomi nalchieent to justify the in amount—certainly House in repealing these taxes, and d tholight that more reliance would have been placed he. t h e present resolution, which had b on his financial statement. Re by Son. Members pledging the House to warned the House not nothing, but re presentedbeen nhihgreat inconveniences in the o f pledged the House plate e of the country. to an opinion which might in n o r a e c s c i e j d t y e to s way th e financial T iie ult i matelyhi ar rangements u s e then divided, when there appeared— For the first proposition ••• •.. 107 Against .• ••• Igs Majority ... ... ...188 For the second ... Against Majority ••• I_ o9 For the third... ••• fl 6 Against •.• ••• ••• 181 Majority ..•• _ 65 TRUSTEES' ACT EXTENSION BILL, This Bill was read a second time. COUNTY COURTS FURTHER EXTENSION BILL. The House then went into Committee on this Bill, Clauses from 1 to 24 were agreed to, The House then resumed. Sir W. CLAY mentioned that ho had voted in the wrong lobby on the second division, ho having int3nded to support Mr. Milner Gibson. It being six o'clock the House adjourned. LONDON COFFEE and EATING-HOUSE KEEPERS' ASSOCIATION. The anniversary dinner of this a sscciatioia took place on Tuesday evening at the Freemasons' Tavern, Great Queen-street, under the presidency of Sir William Clay, Bart. M.P., supported by more than 190 gentlemen. The report of the committee states that the amount of subscriptions for the veer are 1491. 16s. 6d. The amount received from the same source last year was 180/. Ifls. 6d., showing a deficiency in the list of donations, but at the same time exhibiting an amount of subscriptions corre sponding with former years. The interest arising from the property invested with the Commissioners for the Reduction of the National Debt amounted, for the year, to 931.95. Id., and has been added to the principal, making a total of 2,5431. 35. 3d. During the past year attempts had been made, as heretofore, to augment the funds of the as sociation by auxiliary efforts, and the committee report that a railway excursion to Rye House prodaced a net profit of 61. 2s. 8d ; and a ball and concert at the Eagle Tavern, 261. 7s. 7d. At the last half-yearly meeting, in January, another pensioner was added to the list, besides 3 orphan children. The committee, in conclu sion, observe that it is important that the attention of the subscribers should be directed to two objects, that of electing officers for the ensuing year, and to endeavours to increase the number of its subscribers. The address states that "it is intended, if the funds of the institution will permit, to extend this latter purpose to the establishment of a school, where the orphans of deceased membrs will be educated, clothed and fed, and rendered fit for making their own way through the world in a creditable manner. The ge neral statement of accounts for the year endingJuly,:lBsl, shows under the head of receipts the following items:-To balance in hand, brought forward, 61. 7s. 4d. ; donations and subscriptions, 149/ 16s. 6d.; profit ou railway excur sion, 6/. 2s. Bd.; profit on ball and concert, 261.53. 7d.; in terest on stock, 931 9s. I d.; making a total of 282/ ls. 2d. Under the head of expenditure we find the following: -Interest added to stock, 931. 9s. Id.; pensioners, 841. 155.; committee rooms, 6/. 65.; printing, 81. 35.; adver tisements, &e., 4/. 9s. I Id.; secretary's salary and pound ag, 241. 2s. 3d.; secretary, for extra services, 51, 55.• incidentals, 27/. 195.; leaving a balance in hand of 27/. 113. I ld. ; total, 2821. Is. 2d. The amount of funded property is 2,543/. 3s. 3J. _ _ The CHAIRMAN, in proposing " Prosperty to the Lon don Coffee and Eating-house Keepers' Asseeiation," said he would remind them of the extent and importance of the trades for whose benefit this association was founded. He found that in the metropolis alone there were no less than 4,000 coffee and eating-house keepers, arid that this number was: rapidly increasing—increasing oven more rapidly in proportion than the population of our great metropolis. This tact could not bat prove a source of gratification to tho people at large, and especially to the working classes, because the increase of suck establish ments was a precursor of the power of the working classes to procure en j oyment, and also of the supply of means for gratifying that desire, and further it was to be observed that these establishments supplied the means of intellec tual amusement, nay, more, o intellectual improvement, for those establishments supplied the working man with that which would meet his desire for reading—they gave him the chief sources of popular education, the daily prose, and other valuable periodicals. For, where was the coffee or eating-house in which there was not to be found the means of reading? Having made these observations, he would ask, was a trade so extensive, wealthy and im portant, sufficiehtly represented by that association? He would be as surprised as delighted to find that the growth of the association kept pace with the growth of the trade. All great institutions did great good, hecaase they brought together and made known to each other the first men in the trade; further, they enabled them to act in concert to defend the rights of all, and brought under the notce of public men anything injurious to the trade, and, to sum up all, they gave them strength from union. They created a species of public opinion, they tended to discourage the bad, if such there were, and encourage the good, and thus the tone of the trade generally was raised in public estimation. He, therefore, as a public man, earnestly bespoke through them the support of the trade from which this association had emanated. This was the first time he hal presided over them—he should be happy to do so again, on one condition, that the number of members should reach 400 ; and, in conclusion, he hoped they would place themselves upon an equality with the licensed victuallers, iu founding a school, and when that foundation took place they might depend upon his presence. Mr. HARE, one of the trustees, proposed the " Health of the Chairman," who briefly replied. The other toasts were " The President and Vice- President," " Tho Treasurers aid Trustees," " The Press," " The Visitors," " The Committee and Auditors," and " The Ladies." A handsome subscription was an nounced during the evening. THE AMERICAN EXPEDITION TO JAPAN. (From the New York Herald.) WASHINGTON, APRIL 20. _ The President recently transmitted to the Senate a communication, containing official documents relative to the empire of Japan, under a resolution of the 4th of March. These documents consist of extracts from the instructions given by the State Department to various individuals, since 1832, together with a communication from James Glynn to the President, with reference to his transactions in the Preble; copy of an extract from the New York Herald, of the 3d of January, 1851, &c., together with instructions given to Commodore Aulick; and a letter from the President to the Emperor of Japan, dated May 10, 1951. The letter of the President has already been published. The highly important letter of instructions to Commodore Aulick has not, however, been yet given, and will be found below. It displays the object of the visit to Japan, so far as the President has given instructions to the East India squadron, and is, in reality, the gist of the whole affair:— ' Department of State, Washington, June 10, 1851. " Sir,—The moment is near when the last link in the chain of oceanic steam navigation is to be formed. From China and the East Indies to Egypt, thence through the Mediterranean and the Atlantio Ocean to England, thence again to our happy shores and other parts of this great continent; from our own ports to the southern most part of the Isthmus that connects the two western continents, and from its Pacific coast north and south wards as far as civilization has spread, the steamers of other nations and of our own carry intelligence, the wealth of the world, and thousands of travellers. " It is the President's opinion that steps should be taken at once to enable our enterprising merchants to supply the last link in that great chain which unites all nations of the world, by the early establishment of a line of staamers from California to Chine. In order to facilitate this enterprise, it is desirable that we should obtain from the Emperor of Japan permission to pur chase from his subject the necessary supplies of coal, which our steamers in their out and inward voyages may require. The well known jealousy with which the Japanese Empire has for the last two centuries re jected all overtures from other nations to open its ports to their vessels embarrasses all new attempts to change the exclusive policy of that country. _ The interests of commerce, and even those of hu manity, demand, however, that we should make another appeal to the Sovereign of that country, in asking him to sell to our steamers—not the manufactures of his ar tisans, or the results of the Oil of his husbandmen—but a gift of Providence, deposited by the Creator of all things in the depths of the Japrriese Islands for the be nefit of the human family. " By the President's direction I now transmit to you a letter to the Emperor of Japan (with an open copy), which you are to carry to Jeddo, his capital, in your flag-ship, accompanied by as many of the vessels of the squadron under your command as may conveniently be employed in this service. A Chinese translation of this letter will be furnished to you by the United States' Legation at Canton, and sent to your anchorage at Hong-Kong or Macao. " At one of the latter places you will probably meet with a national vessel, detached by the commodore of the squadron in the Pacific (as yqu will perceive by the enclosed copy of a correspondence between this and the navy department) to carry to you a number of ship wrecked Japanese mariners who were some time ago picked up at sea by the barque Auckland. These men you will take with you to Jeddo, and deliver them over to the officers of the Emperor, giving them through your interpreter, the essurance that the Ame rican Government will never fail to treat with kind ness any of the natives of Japan whom misfortune may bring to our shores, and that it expects similar treat ment of such of its own citizens who nay be driven on the coasts of Japan. " The letter of the President to the Emperor of Japan you will deliver to such of his high officers as he may appoint for the purpose of receiving it. To them you will explain the main object of your visit. " Mineral coal is so abundant in Japan that the Go vernment of that country can have no reasonable objection to supplying our steamers, at fair prices, with that great necessary of commerce. One of the eastera ports of Niphon would be the most:desirable place for this purpose. Should, however, the Government of Japan persist in following out its system of exclusiveness, you might, perhaps, induce them to consent to the transportation of the coal by their own vessels to a neighbouring island, easy of access, where the steamers could supply their wants, avoiding thus the necessity of an intercourse with any large num ber of the people of the country. " It is considered important that you should avail yourself of every c 2casion to impress upon those Japanese officers with whom you will be brought in contact, that the Government of the United States does not possess any power over the religion of its own citizens, and that there is, therefore, no cause to apprehend that it will intefere with the religion of other countries. " The President, although fully aware of the great reluctance hitherto shown by the Japanese Government to enter into treaty stipulations with any foreign nation —a feeling which it is sincerely wished that you may be able to overcome—has thought it proper, in anticipation of this latter favourable contingency, to invest you with full power to negotiate and sign a treaty of amity and commerce between the United States and the empire of Japan. " I transmit, herewith, the Act of the President, clothing you with that power, as also copies of the treaty between the United States and China with Siam and the Muscat, which may to a certain extent be of use to you as precedents. It is important that you dispose of their cargoe s should secure to our vessels the right to enter one or more of the ports of Japan, and there to without being subjected to extravagant port yibresarrg9t.enesdr: j an a d pa e n ve s n ho m ul o d re b s either by s i in ni e r it r e t e a l n f t to i s p protect o i t te t c h t a A t the ale a r l : oa r .s b G ov ern ment of a property which might be on their shot es. The second article of our treaty with Muscat and. the fifth article of the treaty with Siam embrace those objects.' " Every treaty has to be subjected to the Senate for ratification, as yon are aware. In consideration of the great distance between the two countries, and of un foreseen difficulties, it would ;be prudent, should you succeed in effecting the object proposed, to fix the pe riod for the exchange of the ratifications at three years, "I am, Sir, respectfully, your obedient servant, " DIN, (EL WEBSTER. " Commodore John H. Aulick." The accompanying note from the Minister of the Netherlands hero will also be found int eresting:— (Translation.) " Note Verbale.—lt is a matter of puNic notoriety that foreign vessels are excluded from Japes, h by the Govern ment of that Empire. It was, nevertht less, determined in 1842, that, if sneh vessels should be cast upon the shores of Japan by storms, or come there in waist of provisions, with a view of asking for s uch commodities, water, or wood for fuel, those articles a hould be granted to them on request. "For fear, however, lest this determi nation, prompted as it has been by feelings of humanity, should give rise to any false interpretation, the Gove-rnment of Japan has solicited that of the Netherlands t o inform the other Powers that the above-mentioned re solution does not infringe upon or otherwise imply any modification what ever of the system of separation ens 1 exclusion which was adopted more than two centuries ago by the Ja panese Government, and since the establishment of which the prohibition against allolying any foreign vessel to explore the Japanese cos sts has been con stantly in force. " The Dutch Government has ma do no difficulty of complying with this request, espeols illy as the Govern ment of Japan has no other means c.t making a commu nication of this nature; and in punt lance of instructions from the Cabinet of the Hague, tl 4e Legation of the Netherlands has the honour to C 0133 municate the above mentioned facts to the Hon. Secrets ry of State of the United States, for the information of his Government. "April 30, 1851." MORTALITY in the ME TROPOLIS. NUMBER OF DEATHS FROM ALL CATISI 38 REGISTERED IN THE WEEK ENDING SATURDAY, MAY 8, 1852. Epidemic, Endemic, and ContagOus Diseases ...*193 Diseases of Uncertain Seat ... Tubercular Diseases ... ••• ••. 190 Diseases of the Brain, Nerves, and S enses... ... 108 Diseases of the Heart and Blood-vest eels ... 37 Diseases of the Lungs, and other Organs of RespiraZion ... 166 Diseases of th e St omac h, Liver, am other Organs of Digestion... ... Diseases of the Kidneys, &c. ••• ••• Childbirth, Disea ses o f th e Utcrua, ,S 4 ... Diseases of the Joints, Bones, and, Muscles Diseases of the Skin, &c. Malformations... ... Premature Birth ... Atrophy ••• •• Old Age • ••• ••• Sudden ••• .•• ••• ••• ••• Violence, Privation, Cold, and I: itzmperance Causes not specified ... • • • ••• •• • ... ••• ••• •• • ... 3 ... 26 ... 32 ..• 14 ••• 13 DEATHS FROM ALL CAUSER. ••• ••• 972 Population 7 EN-lens in corre- Death s g week in the d iviamlin Enumera.,/, 1851. .of 1851. Week. West Districts... 376,427 • - 168 ... 118 North Districts.. 490,396 •• 202 ... 205 Central Districts 393,256 —• 181 ... 184 East Districts ... 485,522 ••• 216 ... 197 South Districts.. 616,635 •-• 274 ... 268 T0ta15........ 2,3€2,236 ... 1,041 ... 972 Maks ..„ ... 498 Pernalos • • • M• 111• •• • e••••.... ... 474 BIRTHS IN THE NEEL Males 810 Females ... 850 Total ... „.. ... ... ...1,660 *ln this number are included 3',' by Scarlatisa, 33 by Typhus Fever, and 14 by Diarrhe 3a. CORK AND BANDON RAILWAY. — ( 20 m ilex open)—.Return •f Traffic for the week ending May 8, 18 52: Passengers, parcels, &c. ... £l4O 10 3 Merchandise, cattle, &c.... ... 53 15 7 Total ... ••• £194 510 Corresponding week in 1851 (10 miles open):— Passengers, parcels, &c. ••- 32 15 9 Merchandise, cattle, &c.... •=- 12 8 Total .. ... ... 33 18 5 NEWMARKET RACES. (THIS DAY.) (BY ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH). LATEST BETTING. DEBBY. 15 to 2 agst Little Harry 8 to 1 egg Alcoran 10 to 1 eget Robbie Noble 13 to 1 agst Stockwell 14 to te :gg:: HarbingerAlfredtlie Great 20 to 1 agst Kingston 20 50 to 1 agst Nabob ROYAL ARTILLERY, WOOLWICH, MAY 10.—The whole of the Royal Artillery in the gars ison off duty were ordered out for exercise this morning at half-past 8 o'clock, preparatory to the grand review, which will take place on Thursday, the 13th inst., in commemoration of the Queen's birthday, when the whole of the troops :M garrison here, and the enrolled pensionerF, willassemble on Woolwich-common. The Royal Horse Artillery were under the command of Colonel Brereton, C.8.K.H., this morning, and five field batteries, under their respective captlins, 10 rounds of ammu nition having been previously serve d ou t t o eac h gu n. The F oo t Artillery were formed into t wo b a tt a li ons , the right under the command of Lieutenant-Colonel Thorndike, and the left under Lieatenant-Colonel Fraser, each man being supplied with 10 rounds of blank cartridge. THE LONDON GAZETTE, May 11. BANKRUPTS. ? Manley Wetb er fi e l d, scr i vener, Gresham street, Ma y 21, a t twelve, and Jane 25, at eleven , at t he Court of Ban.kruptcy. Cannan, of fi c i a l as signee, Alderme l b ury; M iun d ay , Lancaster plac©, George Manley City, to surrender place, Strand. Richard Hadland, glass manufacturer, St. Helens, Lancashire, May 17, an d Juno 15, at eleven, at the Hayward, Bir m i ngham; Dodge, L i verpool. John Henry Collins, draper, Halifax, May 28 and June 25, at elev en, at the Leeds District Court. Young, official assignee , Leeds; Brierley, Halifax. D I VIDENDS. Liverpool; At the Court, Basingball-street. J. Fraser, Great Suffolk -street, Southwark, draper, June 3, at twelve. In the Country. T. Ai nold, Elmore, Glouces.3rWro, timber dealer, J une 3, at eleven, at the Court, Bristol—R. Norris, Be verley, Yorkshire, innkeeper, June 2, at twelve, at the Town-hall, Kingston-upon-Hull, PAYMENT OF DIVIDENDS. Edwards, B. Molkentin, Minories, sh oe manu f ac t u rer, 10d., on any Saturday , batween the ho urs o f eleven and two, at the ffi s C i 3 m of M n Sambrook-court, Basinghall street W. turday, between the hours o f eleven (aid two, at the o ffi ce od r e, Brhton of Mr. Edwards, Sambrook- cour t, Basinghall-street. o m , grocer, 2a. 3d., on any Sa - Wilkinson and Bentley, Liverpool, tailors, 48. 7d., on any Wednesday, between the hours of eleven and two, at the office of Mr. Morgan, Lives pooh W. Cole, Birkenhead, Cheshire, ls. 10Id., on any Wednesday, between the hem.' of eleven and two, at the office of Mr. Morgan, Liverpool. J. Gibbs, Liverpool, sailmaker, 205., on any Wednes day, between the hour s o f e l even and two, at the office of Mr. Morgan, Liverpool. G. Pryde, Liverpool, sa il ma k er , 2 s . Sid., on any Wed nesday, between the hours of eleven and two, at the office of Mr. Morgan, Liverpool. D. Jones, Liverpo o l, sa il ma k er , 203., on any Wednes day, between the h ours of eleven an two, at the office of Mr. Morgan, Liverpool. R. Jackson, Nottingham, butcher, 4s. 7d., on Friday, May 14, and four followin Fridays, between the hours of eleven and three , atth e office of Mr. B ittleston, Not - tingham. H. Thompson, Friday, may of el even and three, at the office of Mr. Bit tleston, Notti ng h am. 14 and four follo w i n g Fridays, between the hours —elper, Derbyshire, draper, 9 5. , on 11 Gladwin, Nottin g h a m, draper, 55., on Friday, May 14, and four foll ow i ng F r idays, between the hours of eleven and three, at the office of Mr. Bittleston, Not tingham. W. Baynes, Leeds, flax-spinner, Is. Bdi., any day, be tween the hours of eleven and two, at the office of Mr. Young, Leeds. J. Broadbent, Saddleworth, Yorkshire, lid., on Mon days or Tuesdays, between the hours of eleven and two, at the office of Mr. Hope, Leeds. NOTICES OF CERTIFICATES. At the Court, Basinghal l-street. W. Steel, F enc h urc h- s t re et, City, tailor , June 2, at half-past one. In the Country. J. S. M'Culloch Liverpool, draper and hosier, June 3, at eleven, at the Court Liverpool—S. Wharton , Hart ford, Cheshire, wi ne a nd spirit merchant, Juno 3, at eleven, at the Court Liverpool—J. L. Copeland , Liver pool, merchant, June 4, at e l ev en, at the Court, Liver pool—J. Cadm an , Dorby, grocer, June 4, at half-past ten, at the Court, Nottingham. CERTIFICATES GRANTER M. Beart, Upwell, Norfolk, brickmaker, a certificate of the second class—J. Gt.nn;S u dbury, Suffolk, builder and carp en t er , a certific ate of the third olass—J. Ellison, Liverpool, iron monger , a certificate of the second class — W. Whitehou se , Liverpool, trader, a certi fi cate of the first class, aft er 21 days f ro m April 22—J. Fegon , Lin coln, draper, a certificate of the third class. PARTNERSHIPS DISSOLVED. G. Watson and J Parkhouse, Southwark, hop merchants —J. Picku p, S. Lord, and J. Lord, Green's Mill, Lancashire, cotto manufacturers—W. J. Goulton , and G. T urner , Selby an d Ilemingbrough, Yorkshire, flax fact ors —A nn Hammon d and F. Hammond, Picca dilly, ho s i era —A. D ev in and F. Hunt , Frith - street, Soho, diamond work ma nufacturers and jew e ll ers — Katherine Toomyit S mith dnFja.nnKyiteLhlwn,ir,Lh.eeedws: a s u c c h t o io o n lm ee i r s s . tresses—W. 8n —T. Bur and W. Pearson, BishoPsgate7atreet Without and Wapping, corn and seed merchants—T. M'Tear and R. Vining, Liverpool, ship brokers—F. W. Wickham and W. Brooke. Bristol, wine and spirit merchants—C. Becket and J. Young, Sebbon's-buildings, Islington, tea dealers—E. Hinton, Amelia Hinton, J. Waghorn, and Elizabeth Waghorn, Soho-square, agents—J. Stott, D. Porter, T. Nicholl, H. Nicholl, and J. Nicholl, Halifax, Yorkshire, worsted spinners—C. Newman and F. New man, Poole, drapers—W. M'Kenna and R. Turner, Sal ford, manufacturers—W. Knight and J. Willoughby, Nottingham, tallowchandlers. SCOTCH SEQUESTRATIONS. J. Hutchinson, Glasgow, minibus proprietor, to meet within the London Temperance Hotel, Glasgow, May 14 and June 4, at one. C. Latta, jun., Glasgow, merchant, to meet within the London Hotel, Glasgow, May 17, and June 7, at one. J. Pettigrow, Blantyre, Lanarkshire, grocer, to meet within the King's Arms Inn, Trongate, Glasgow, May 19 and June 9, at twelve. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT HOUSE OF COMMONS, Mag . 11. MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS. A messenger from the Lords brought up the follow ing Bills, to which their Lordships had agreed:— Linen, &c., Manufactures (Ireland)—Poor Relief Act Continuance—Loan Societies—Portsea Gas—Derby Gas —Vale of Neath Railway—Barnstaple Markets and Fairs—Medina River Navigation—Lockwood and Melt ham Road—Stockton and Darlington Railway—Great Southern and Western Railway (Ireland)—Belfast Gas —Rhyl Improvement, without amendment—Bradford Piece Halls—Dudley Waterworks, with an amendment —Aberdare Market and Slaughter-houses, with amend ments. MAYNOOTH GRANT. Mr. SPOONER then rose to move for a Select Committee to inquire into the system of education carried on at the College of Maynooth. He was confident that in bringing forward his present motion he would receive the liberal and kind indulgence of the House.—(Hear, hear.) At the outset he would say ho was anxious to abstain from hurting the feelings or wounding the consciences of members of the Roman Catholic faith. lie had no quarrel with individuals, but in the fullnesa of the Protestant faith, he would give to every individual the right of private judgment. He quarrelled with the system of education at Maynooth. He charged it with being injurious to eociety of having a tendency to create immorality, and of being subversive of the true principles of alle giance. —(Loud cries of "Hear, hear.") He maintained that the original grant was based on a bad principle, and that the forebodings of those who opposed it had been completely realized. The system was antagonistic to the word of God, and was in fact a national sin. As such, therefore, it was his earnest wish to have the grant removed. He would refrain from all political argument, and confine himself simply to the policy of the measure. Ho meaflt to conclude by asking for an inquiry into the system of education pursued at the College of Maynooth. That would probably be met by a common but, he thought, unfounded assertion, that nothing could be gained by the inquiry, as the House already knew every thing connected with the system of education. He would now lay before the House the authority of Sir Robert Peel to show that such an inquiry was at all times incumbent on the House. Ile believed that gene rally the contents and nature of the books used in the College were unknown. When Sir R. Peel settled tho grant by Act of Parliament, he said ho did not agree in opinion that the system of instruction ought to be a matter of indifference to the House. But it was said they could not revoke a grant which had been solemnly made. On that he joined issue. Was he to be told that the House could not recall its own gift if it saw sufficient reasons for doing so? Lord J. Russell also stated, in April, 1845, though he did not agree that they should sud denly stop advancing further sums, he considered that if the persons who benefited by them became the leaders of rebellion, or sought to injure the community, there would be a valid reason for withdrawing all assistance from the college. That was a sound con stitutional principle, and was applicable to the present question. No one could deny that the priests educated at Maynooth bad from time to time, and especially recently, offered resistance to the power of the Crown and the constitution as by law established. They said, in fact, that they would never bo content while the incubus of the Established Church continued to exist.—(Loud cheers from the Irish Members.) lion. Members opposite admitted that, but by the oath of allegiance which every Roman Catholic took in that House, they were bound not to injure the Established Church.—(Cheers.) These priests were not teachers of religion, but the leaders and conductors of rebellion, and he held that they were at liberty to repeal tho grant whenever they found that it was employed for purposes injurious to the public weal, and dangerous to the welfare of the Monarchy. The great concession had not been re ceived by the Roman Catholics in the liberal and confid ing spirit in which it was made. The Propaganda expressed the deepest feeling of delight at the exceeding munifi cence of the Government of England, but unfortunately the practice pursued at Maynooth did not coincide with what might have been expected under the circumstances. The books used in the college said that every person baptized in the Roman Catholic Church should be con sidered to be under the dominion of that Church. They also contained the doctrine that the Church had the power to dispense with all oaths and vows when cir cumstances might render it necessary or expedient. They then proceeded to point out 24 ways in which oaths might be got rid of.—(Hear, and laughter.) He would not go through the entire 24, but would give a few of them. Bailie, upon moral theology, in vol. 7, chap. 2, page 343, says:—" A promissory oath obliges, under the penalty of mortal sin, to do that which is pro mised in the oath, unless a legitimate cause excuses." At page 345 there is a chapter with this title—" Of the causes which prevent or take away the obligation of an oath." Of these, seven are named; the third is—" The hindering of a greater good which is opposed to that promised in the oath" (which is susceptible of a wide ecclesiastical range). The seventh cause preventing is the " limitation, either expressed, or oven tacitly and silently understood, of the intention of the swearer. For, in every oath certain general conditions are, from justice and use, ineluded; one of them is, ` unless you accept, unless you remit,' another (condition) is, saving the right of another.' " If a religion were taught which bound men to look upon an oath in the manner there referred to, what security could they have for the obser vance of an oath by those who wero taught it?—(Hear, hear.) He therefore asked the House whether they would refuse to inquire into this system? Tho voice of the whole kingdom was, that such things must not, and should not be; and that was a voice which era long would be heard in a way which the House of Commons co uld no longer resist.—(Hear, hear.) It was for those reasons that he asked the House to in quire into, and put a stop to this system in time, before they were compelled to do so by " the pressure from without," which it was always dangerous to provoke, for once prove , ked it could never bo stayed. He came now to another p o int, and it was one of some importance. The House would recollect when Cardinal Wiseman re turned to this country he openly professed that his ob ject was to establish the canon law. Now what said the Lord Bacon of the Roman Catholics —their great ex pounder of the canon law ? " In every pro m i ssory note, " sa y s Reiffenstual, writing on tho subject o f oat h s, i n h i s "Jos Canonicum TJniversam,' which is a standard book a t lataynouth—" though made absolutely, there are un doubtedly, certain tacit conditions, as first, If lam se condly, `saving the l aw an d authority of a ble'—and my superior.' " That was the canon law which Cardi. nal Wiseman was endeavouring to establish in this country, and which was taught in the College of May nooth. Once let Cardinal Wiseman get the Roman Catholics of England to believe that that canon law was binding upon them, and he (Mr. Spooner) would ask what security the people of this country had for the preseivatiOn of their property, their happiness, and some of their best interests. The Honourable Member proceeded to read a series of extracts from various Roman Catholic commentators on the canon law, end from Roman Catholic books, with the view of showing, among other things, that if a person in communion with the Roman Catholic Church had sworn anything which the Pope conceived to be contrary to bis dignity, such an oath was not binding on his conscience, and generally the light in which heretics wore regarded by that church. He contended ; that, in the treatment of heretics, one principle alone pervaded the whole teaching of the Ro man Catholic Church, and that was that they were to be tolerated until the time arrived when they could be al together put down, and that if at any particular period it was thought an attempt to accomplish that end would not be successful, the Church was to bide its time, until circumstances became changed by its becoming more do minant. or otherwise. He cautioned the House against giving little by little its sanction to the teaching of doc trines of that kind, and to beware of the cost. There was an old trite saying, " The eggs first, and the eagles afterwards." ITho Honourable Member continued, amid signs of impatience, and occasional interruption, directly from the Irish Members on the Opposition side of the House, to cite passages from the canon law and the writings of Thomas Aquinas and other commentators to preys that laymen hindering the exe cution of mandates, citations, and other like proceed ings issuing from the Church of Rome, " were smitten with excommunication ;" when thefts were mortal and when venial sins ; that the people were bound to obey the ecclesiastical, notwithstanding it was averse to mo narchical law ; that a person who owed anything to a heretic arising out of any exchange, pledge, or deposit, loan, or any other contract, was ipsofact9 free from the obligation, and was not bound to keep his promise or perform his contract, even though he had sworn to do it ; and that a secular judge had no jurisdiction over the clergy in criminal cases, "seeing th a t they enjoyed the privilege of God and were exempt f rom the civil jurisdiction.") He appealed to the House if those were y doctrines which the Governm en t o f t hi s country ought to pay for teaching ? The House, however, had the people pay for the t eac hi ng of them. It made' was, fact, a part of our nati ona l system, and, he sub mitted it was one of which the sooner we got r id th e y d better. The truth w as , th at priestly dominion was the great characteristic of th e Roman Catholic Church, and its whole tendency was to " confine the intellect and en slave the soul."—(Hear.) He would not pollute the ears of his audience —he would not be the teacher, or rather the publisher, if he might use the expression—of those filthy doctrines which he could not have believed any church would have permitted to be taught to its communicants, had ho not felt himself obliged to go through the books in which they were found. He would only make one remark, on the authority of a Roman Ca tholic writer on Confession, to the effect that certain penitents were questioned at confession only as to those sins which were most common and usual among that class of persons; they were to ho asked if they had committed theft, and how often—and if they had sworn, and how often. The same writer proceed ed to say tilt". 4 , 4 LI. - ii XL: ... 60 ... 18 as to sins against chastity, the confessor must interro gate most cautiously, especially lest his younger peni tents should learn those vices which, without that confession, they might not have understood.—(Hear, hear.) And he adds that he had known renitents on the bed of death confess that they have lived for a long time in the commission of sins, of which if it had not been for the teaching of the confessors, they would have remained in entire ignorance. That is all I will say upon tbat part of the subject; but there is something else which has a greater demand upon our consideration here. I egain quote the words of the late Sir Robert Peel, who, speaking on the motion of Sir Francis Bur dett, on the 6th of March, 1827, said:—" I will own, fairly and candidly, that I entertain a distrust of the Roman Catholic religion. I object not to the Catholics on account of their faith. For them I have the highest respect. In private life I have never made any distine• tiors between persons on account of their religion. It is a matter of perfect indifference to me whether or not a party professes the doctrine of transubatantiation; but if there is added to th a t d octr i ne a scheme of worldly policy of a marked character, I have a right to in quire into its nature, and observe its effects upon man kind. Can any man acquainted with the state of the world doubt for a moment that there is engrafted on the Catholic religion something more than a scheme for promoting mere religion—that there is in view the furtherance of a means by which man may acquire authority over man? Can wo know what the doctrines of absolution, confession, of indulgences are, without a suspicions that those doctrines are entertained for the purpose of establishing the power of man over the hearts and minds of men? What is it to me what the source of power is called,_i o f h p . as Pr such? He would ask any ( to another, f he had n i other, openly andtol and on told to tohi u m nc ali t h ro is Ur s , d opened eerett his thoughts s os n o n m d o t r f a n thesg re other, ssion n w h t h e e t h w e r o h r s e t w s o e u n l s d e n o o f t feel h the word?--(Hear.) I n r d himself _ithe slave ( aear.) And yet that was one of the doctrines which that House taught at Maynooth. Another point connected with confession was that the confessor was bound to secrecy, and that in no case, without the express leave of the party, not even to escape detivh, not even to save the State, could any violation of this secrecy be admitted, so that, if treason to the Sovereign were confessed, the confessor would be bound to secrecy. The Honourable Member then referred to a pamphlet of Mr. Eneas Mac donald, published in 1845, wh, n the subject of an in creased grant to Maynooth wets under consideration, and which contained extracts from various petitions presented by Roman Catholic Prelates, in 1792, on the subject of Roman Catholic disabilities, to the of t ct that the ne mo rialiatt were satisfied with the existing National E,ta blished Church in Ireland, and did not seek in any way to encroach upon the rights, privileges, p iesessions, or revenues belonging to the bishops awl clergy of the Established Church. Dr. Doyle also stated in his evi dence, quoted in the pamphlet referred to, that he could undertake to say that not a single Catholic clergyman in Ireland would contradict what he stated, :hat they were not desirous of disturbing the exis.ieg arrange , ments. It was upon such evidence as this that this country was deluded in an unhappy moment to pass the Bill.—(Hear, hear.) He had always considered it ui - just to exclude R mean Catholics f rom th e p ossess i on o f their civil privileges; and he remembered well an argu ment used by Mr. Canning on that subject, which ap peared to bin) unanswerable. Ic reply to an argument that the Catholics ought not to be admitted into the house, as they could not he bound by oaths, Mr. Can ning said, " You heap them cut of the house by an oath." —(Hear.) What, however, was the opinion now ex pressed by the Roman Catholics as comestred with those used by them before they obtained the • grant from the Government? The Catholic Defence Association put forth an address a few days since, in which, speak , irig of the Noh!e Lord opposite in connexion with the grant, and the conduct of the Catholic clergy, it stated—" When he agreed to endow Maynooth he ex pected that, in consideration of this endowment, the Su preme Head of the Catholic Church upoa earth would abandon the measures which he thought necessary for the good of the Catholic Church. He really belie ved, it seems, that he could buy the holy Roman Church to abandon her own principles and duties, and that not iu Ireland only, but in other countries, for the sum of 26,000/, per annum to the college of Sn Patrick, May nooth. This is the exact price at which he valued the holy Church throughout the world. It is strange that, with history before him, ho should have dreamed that the Catholic Church could be bought at any price; stranger still, that he should suppose any men, however base, would sell it for a bribe so contemptible. Ile va lues the consciences of rulers and membsrs of the whole Church throughout the world at the sum of 26,0001." It was not, he found, the Noble Lord opposite to whom reference was made, but the Noble Earl now at the head of the Government.—(Laughter.) He saw nothing at which Hon. Members could laugh, for he believed, judg ing from tho strong speeches which that Noble Lord had made on the subject of " the Papal aggression," that the sentiments which he entertained on the subject were similar to those of the Noble Earl. The subject to which he had called the attention of the House was not yet exhausted, but he was anxious not to weary the House by going into it at greater length. What he wished to impress upon the House was, that they were giving aid, and calling upon the people to pay for a religion which he thought be had shown was subversive of morality, which was dangerous to the existence of the social compact, and which was in direct opposition to the duty of allegiance to the Sove reign.—(Hear, hear.) He knew that the late papal ag gression bad opened the eyes of the people of the country, and from one end to the other they were crying out to put a stop to the rebellious, contumacious, dis loyal, and dictating conduct of the Irish Romen Catholic clergy. He would show, if they granted him the Com mittee, that the whole of this conduct was in strict ac cordance with the teachings and doctrines inculcated at Maynooth. It was :he bounden duty of the House to grant him the inquiry, and he called upon Irish Mem bers to meet it like men who were challenged to inves tigate the truth. If be was wrong, they were right, and it the Committee were granted, full opportunity would be afforded to them of vindicating themselves from the charges which ho brought against them.—(Hear, hear.) For his own sake he hesitated not to say that every word he had used was capable of proof, and he challenged Honourable Members to refute it if they could.—(Hear, hear.) The country would not be satisfied except a full and searching inv estigation and inq u i r y t oo k p l ace before a Committee of that House impartially selected. —(Cheers.) The Honourable Member concluded by moving the resolution. The Marquis of BLANDFORD seconded the motion, which he said had been so ably moved by his Hon. Friend that it was unnecessary for him to say more than a few words. He knew that propositions of this nature only emanated from parties out of doors, holding rather narrow religious views; but he took that opportunity of saying that he had had no connexion with any party of that nature. There might have been such expressions of opinion out or' doors, but he had taken no part in them, reserving t 3 himself an opportunity of freely expressing his opinion in that, house. There could be but one inference come to from the statement of his Hon. Friend, namely, that it w as t h e i r d uty to repeal the grant to INlaynooth.—(Hear, hear.) That was the conclusion to which he had come, and he had no hesitation in adding, that was the object with which ho seconded the motion ; and he be lieved that the inquiry would prove that repeal to be neces sary as a measure of wise and conscie itious policy.—(llear, hear.) He was one of those who had supported the late Sir Robert Peel in 1845, by voting for the increesed grant to Maynooth. He believed that eminent statesman, how ever, at that time, looked upon the continuance and in crease of that grant as not a new policy, but merely the sequence of that which had been pursued from the time of the Union. He had stated that there were three courses that might be pursued, either to repeal, the grant altogether, to suffer it to remain in its then inefficient state, or to in crease it in such a manner as would confer upon those edu cated at Maynooth a superior and satisfactory education. That great statesman adopted the last, rs, in his opinion, the best, and anticipated from it the happiest results for Ireland and the empire; and many men, also eminent statesmen, had been equally deceived in their anticipations, and acted from as pure motives. In 1792, when the French Constitu tion was promulgated, Mr. Fox, who was then a Member of that House, viewed that constitution as the dawn of light breaking upon the darkness of despotic power. He little apprehended what would follow, but said he believed it would be the foundation of the most splendid edifice ever raised in the world. Other statesmen, eminent ,or ability and integrity, took a different view, and they ill knew which proved most correct. In 1813 Mr. Cancan, in introdueing his Bill for removing Catholic disabilities, animated by the noblest and most generous motives, was still mistaken as to the policy and the results he, anticipated from it.... that great statesman said, "If we pause, if we retrograde, we shall descend from the pinnacle on which we now stand, and from whence we command a view of Protestants and Roman Catholics becoming loyal fellow -subjects. To give up this would be to lose all we have gained. There is a tide in the affairs of men, on the summit of which we are now riding. Let us not turn back. The hands of Protess taßts and Catholics are now stretched forth to each ether, and have nearly met." That was another instance of the er roneous views which have been entertained by the most illustrious men. Under these circumstances, therefore, they were warranted in inquiring into the facts of the case. We had no doubt conscientiously endeavoured to educate the people and the priesthood 'of Ireland. He made no objection to that, though he said the most im portant part of education was religious instruction. But let them look at a few facts, and what were the con clusions to which they led ? He had no wish to hurt the feelings of Roman Catholic Members, but he said there were three great principles on which we had been in error in dealing with them. In 1795 the grant was given to Maynooth for the express purpose of educating the Irish priesth oo d, and keeping them in a better spirit. Since then that grant had been enlarged, and yet they found in the Tablet a letter from Lord Clarendon to the Earl of Shrewsbury, which there was not the slightest doubt was authentic. The late Viceroy stated that, though the Pope had or d ere d t h e I r i s h pr i ests no t t o meddle with public and politic a l m a tte r s, yet that many of them had t risen in the attempted revolution of 1848, when nothing from beingnothing but the moderation of the Government saved ants e sent along with their confederates to Van Diemen's , t Land. So much for thehe effe e t expectationsef Lordth entertainedecseiargenrupon th d on,s rn opinion 17 9 and in 1799 and as to Irish Roman Catholic clergy, and wCasollegthere building lle wee not opposed to that measure , a o n f d th e e n ir dew l m oyea n l Then tty. of t i e le n bQtuhuteereen,a the Right Hon. Member Graham), i n introdubing that me a t for Ripon (Sir J. lf.efthat it would conduce to the con cord, sure, said it was his be ac e of hh th ii e hu c p os c nt t r i v ie . h, H i a u d h t s a t a d e d x r p e e a s c t a to - Ar t ? the archdiocese of Armagh, c t i o o r n d ,hoeredue fulfilled?r , the Roman Catholics o an and p dis tinctly declared t a li w t cs e th ru e i d u cc c i u s u io f n ur s m o i f ty th w e ith Sy t n h o e d v, :o i f ll T e li f u r t l h e : were in full force — o e corrupted by a f a l se Holy See, and that a th ll e C ir a e th h o il l d ic re p n ar t ent h s were warned of th e d an ger of allowing system o f r eligious instruction. Their pa ren t s, therefore, were either compelled to peiit their child ren to b e without educa ti o n in these colleges or to submit t o excommunication. The best illustration of the error of our attempts to educate the Irish people was to be found in the National Schools. They were put forward on the same grounds, and they might have effected good for the people, and though he did not ap prove of it, it was better to have education of any kind than none at all; but how had these schools been treated, he would not say by Dr. Cullen, but by a French prelate, whom he quoted in his letter? Catholic parents were warned against allowing their children from being corrupted in schools where heresy and Catholicism were placed face to face. The nature of this grant was peculiar in itself, 44 different from every other made for educational purposes. r. lt Wa3 for educating the priests of a religion which was not; their own, not for the support of Presbyterian or Dissenting clergymen , PS the Regium Dorium. He unhesitatingly gave his sup port to the motion of his Hon. Friend the Member for North Warwickshire (Mr. Spooner), and he called on the House to institute this inquiry, and to repeal this endowment as quickly as it might be done consistently with existing in; terests—au endowment against which the feeling of t his country was very stro n g, and which was repudiated by thie• people, for whose benefit it was intended. In 1845 upward! of 10,000 petitions had been sent up against it, and fully 5 04 petitions had been forwarded this session, praying for its re peal. Let them, in obedience to the feeling which these pe titions evinced, adopt the motion of his Hon. Friend the Member for North Warwickshire. The Noble Lord con cluded by'seconding the motion. Mr. ANS FEY, in rising to propose the amendment cf which he had given notice, said that there was not a single word in the speech of the Noble Lord who had just spoke°' which did not show that there was no need of further in' quiry, and that reasons sufficient existed already for the re' peal of this grant.--(Hear, hear.) The Noble Lord had not quoted a single fact to show that any inquiry was necessary; The object of the Hon. Mover was to create political _capital out of this subject, but when he found that the present Go: vernment had unexpectedly succeeded to office he backed t out of the original motion be had given no long ago:es February, and it was only by the derisive cheers of his opponents that he was forced to bring the subject forward in its present weakened form —(Hear, hear.) The 13 10 °' Gentleman's motion referred to the Maynooth grant on l y' Now his (Mr. Anstey's) object was to supply what Ifs: wanting in the Hon. Gentleman's motion, and to extend it to the repeal of all other grants 'similar to that of Mg' nooth, whether Roman Catholic or Protestant.--(H ear ' bear.) His view was that they should not appropriate the means which the Constitution enabled them to draw from the over-taxed people of this country, to support any Psi: ticular religious institutions.— (Hear, hear.) That Whic", vexed the Nonconf orm i s t s was no t an y errone ous teacbinte which they believed to be taught in Maynooth, but that the/ believed it a violation of religious liberty to be called on t i) support any religious institution from which they dis sented.—(Hear,hear.) The object of the Hon. mine' man was sufficiently obviouS, though not explicitlY de clared. It was an attempt to provide a ladder in order t° break the uneasy fall of lion. Gentlemen of posite ' whit; be would not say thei r apostacy b ut their—[Mr. Oarlsoa"; —" Modification"]—but thei r " mo difi cat i 2n " on this nu''' . tion would occasion.- (H ear , h ear. ) But the H on . Gentle man could not have stumbled on a more important proposn' Lion for this purpose, than a mot i on f or i nqu i r i ng , or one to which Lord Derby of all others would be less likely to as' sent, fur on the 4th of June, 1845, Lord Stanley thus which pressed himself. He quoted from the same authority w,i ne r ," supplied the Hon. :Gentleman with his theology_" hap"; sard's Debates."—(Laughter.) Lord Stanley, addressing. t 'n House of Lords on that occasion, said, " Th at an inquiry '"`-t Maynooth would be utterly useless"—(He ar )— and he We rl r , on to say that If they entered upon that inquiry- if , b , proeccuting it, they called before them the various ofce r e of the college, and the ev'dence which Noble Lords We t ; prepared to produce, for the purpose of proving that this that objectionable passage wee to 6e found in the text boon used at Maynooth, cr that thie or that doctrine or prineiP i l was there inculcated—the only result of such inquiry wo u ed be an incessant, cmstant, and daily increasing acerbity , 3 .' an exaggeration of all the religious rancour and anineositic„ which remained between different portions of the coml e nity." Such was the larguage of Lord Stanley in 1845. , (Hr. Austen') did not propose his amendment with the vie' a i of retaliating on the Hon. Gentleman, but to affirm a W ee ' d principle which wcs making much way in this country , even in Ireland, for there were many Roman Catholics that country who were as steady friends of the volunt!'"st principle as the Dissenters themselves. He believed t P ot this principle would yet be recognised, if n o t in the prg e ar , Parliament, at least at an early period.—(C r i e s of " in hear.") He confined his motion to grants which wer e to siniili costs with the Maynooth grant, that Was v i say, to endowments supported out of the public funds 3 imposed by Act of Parliament. There were also ann u ro , votes which he should oppose whenever they were P'in posed, because he was convinced that liaise had no r' e . to concern itself with these miserable ques ti ons of polenal ii ., —(Hear, hear.) He would like to see her Majestys t o nieters taking a wider view of the question than was lat e( by the Hon. Member for North Warwickshire. it they disapproved of the Maynooth endowment, let them With' draw the vote from the Presbyterians of Ireland, cane" the Donuan, the grant in rid of the bishops and dere., of the Established Church, the gran t s made for clergy various parts of the Brtish d o mi n i ons , an d i n f avour of t" ii chaplains of ambassadors, a n d a ll s i m il ar i tems of esKene7; ture. Let them net confi ne th e i r v i ew to M aynoo t `ne t embrace everything else of the same kind. He should tescb Government by pressing the entire amend m e n t to a vote. I' . would be competent for them either to accept or reject ,be At all events, he should have discharged his duty. Hon. Membe r th en move d as an amendment, "That tu i f House resolve itself i n t o a C omm i ttee, f or t h e purpose ° considering of a Bill f or repea li ng t h e Maynooth Endo w ' ment Act, and all other Acts for charging the public rerell ue in aid of ecclesiastical or religious purposes." Mr. SCHOLEFIELD suppo r ted t h e amen dment, end of doing so did not affirm any admiration of the Colleg e , no Maynooth, to which he was quite as much opposed ese Honourable Gentlemen, as he believed it propagateder ro r Ile would not, however, avail himself of an attack agat i Roman Catholics to leave unchallenged the larger re'renr ii , of the Irish Church Establishment. The people of n t en country were deluded by the Honourable Gentleman. ,t nn i' s did not want an inquiry. They petitioned for the abolll of the grant. The terms of the Act of 1845 gave the m n all the visitorial power requisite for checking the conduetibe the Maynooth authorities. A very large portion of to people of Ireland felt it a pressure on their consciences is support the Established Church. Therefore, the argur eel3 na of the Noble Lord who seconded the (e n g i n e! motion ca he with extremely bad grace from him. Upon this would read a passage from Mr. Macaulay's speech in 1 81 "" ba d " I say, that objections of that sort come with a veil lisp grace from one w h o i s the representative of an •cmaeni. university. When I cons id er w i t h w h at magn ifi c ence r ll gion and science are endowed in our universities; when; ece co mind their long s t reets of palaces, the venerable cloisters' 5 their trim gardens—their chapels with organs, altar-pipe;'', and stained windows; when I remember their cc" — n libraries, museums, and g a ll er i es o f art ; w h en I rememb er ' too, all the solid comforts provided in those place both for instructors and pupile, the stately dwellings of the princina'", the commodious apartments of th e f e ll ows an d echola r % when I remember that the very sizars and servitors i l l ts lodged far be ter than you propose t o lodge those pries who are to teach the whole people of I re l an d ; w h e n I think of the halls, the common-rooms, the bowling-greecs , ! c o ld the stabling of Oxford and Cambridge—the display 0 ' 3 ocean .. . plate on the tables, the good cheer of the kitchen, the of excellent ale in the buttery, and when I remember f ro whom all this splendour and plenty are derived; when n i ire re member the faith of Edward 111. and Henry VI., of f —Ol garet of Anjou and Margaret of Richmond, of 'Milian, Wykeham, of Archbishop Chicheley, and Cardinal Yfolsei t when I remember what we have taken from the Ituu t o Catholic religion—King's Cc:liege, New College, lelY the, Trinity College, and Christ Church—and when I look at _ miserable De-the-boys-Hall we have given them —I ask myself it we, and if the Protestant religion, not disgraced by the comparison ?" He believed that o u! motion of the Honourable Gentleman wee a contrivan ce of political cowardice, to undermine what he dared not Opel'' , a ttack.—(Hear. ) to Mr. WALPOLE said—l think it right, Sir, on the P to of the Government, to state early the course we intend pursue; and I will do so without indulging in any of those polemical asperities deprecated by the Hon. Member for Youghal. We must all agy that this is a question of the utmost difficulty and delicacy. Whether we regard it in tt! political or social bearing, it is intimately connected with and touches upon the tenderest points of our warmest feel ings and sensibilities, which recent events have given gr eat , in return.° effect to with reference to the religious feelings of the people of this country.-- (Hear, hear.) Under these circumstan ces I approach the sunicue with caution and forbearance. nkf ) ; proach it I most; for, in the first place it is directly broug ht before us, and in the second place it has taken such a h°.' on the country that we cannot nor we ought not to avoid ~. To the motion proposed by the Member for 'north We n ''' . wickshire the Member for Youghal has propoo e d an aneenu: relent, that we should not inquire, but repeal all grant' for ecclesiastical or religion purposes. lie wishes to establish the voluntary principle. Now th at was a gre e t ques tion, which ought to be brou g ht f orward as a su b ' I, i s t a ntive proposition. The simpl e question subm i tte d 'a e o fed u a c l a d tio s n ub i s n eq 3 u l e a n y tl n y oo th ; 05 0 m y Honourable Friend is, whether we ought not b i inquire into various t A o :hue Parliamentf stat t i b s e w l h a e s t t he A r ut th u e f g p r a a r n r t ia s m or e i n g t i , na b l .a ly: s a act i , a th n e d q p u e e r s p ti e o t n ua i t m ed pli b ed y swered the purposes intended. That is a fair way encreage M th ember question, b e r for N before wa Warwickshire, e d k o s p h t i e t ,h namely, a m conclusion elyto ap appoint n t t ° t h a l e ° C °ll o ° o ° i mittee of Inquiry. There are two ways in which it 'W i le, be necessary to go into this question at all. In the first ply just as has been intimated by the Hoc. Member for ` 0 r for Warwickshire, and I think she by the lion. Mem b e r ia Youghal, it may be said that this question was concluded ter 11v8a4y5,0afnadhtohweirnegforthe that t t i i n s il n u o ir t y to is a b n e n o c,c p e e s n a e a d ry, again. e ll° . t the conclusion of the Noble Lord (the Marquis of B i l 3 an to df a o a rd P i_ w ,. b c ; seems to say the grant is so vicious in principle that it Ir v , no inquiry, and the Cavernment ought to bring in a &nee repeal it. Now, re to the that of those propositions the :00 e will immediately see that, in point cf fact, the Bondi are upon which this grant has been made from time to timeline conditions which, since Parliament has m a d e them, P a The ment has a right to reconsider them.—(Hear, hear.) o n grant was first given in 1793. The object of the grant, 'c h d e not given, was this :—The Roman Catholics o f I re land COl' so re have seminaries and colleges of their own by law, ar' u na nee, forced to have their priests educat e d i n f o reign con - is where revolutionary principles and i n fid e l d octr ines We r n O , a n Cr vogue, and it was thought expedient by th e Britisl , „ i d e a. that those principles and those doctrines should be ace': on- There were other reasons for m a ki ng t h e grant , but tu'' to ject of the grant, and it was so stated, was ev idently thi s-- ted , provide in this country, or rath er i n I re l an d , a well edu e S loyal, and domestic priC3theCi. Th at grant co ntinue ioa annual one until the Union ; an d i n the 7th art i c le alla e its was made to CertC.lll BUM?, given to different institutionsei Ireland, which were ga v e rnteed upon rn averag e of years, for a period of twenty yeare. I think Parliarnentvar, it nit ;lament at p ht l e e d ep g joe e tnrhi d ileuad t dv( o ) continue ennluotrLthwhichh v e t ab h lyt e e conceded. Subsequent to that time the grant was er'''" - e 'an" trgherdea altered, terms till moda tiulefBd2tlo.e or Union jun: think uina a e en pa m rt a o d f e P u a r r o l n ia g m t e a n a t n , da an o d f must or voluntary itto from motives of benevolence. So it continued until the Y 1845, when Sir Robert Peel made an essential changeo, that grant—first, b y i ncreasing the amount; and, ? neon be by making it permanenn But at the time be did this h a stated two grounds for acting, which, I think, We 2 e t tas not to lose sight of in considering whether the nran - ast t in a g a totv,heer college e c g o a ll l e v rt. answered the purposes for which it erre given. Til l e e ng hf these grounds was the great necessity, the povertY --3 0 5 stun l in de t were paid to the profeszoia is barely to afford them eti o go to live upon, and that the students were compelled , tioh al b h t in 4 t c S 3 i o r l. otbheartt such h el araiepar_es.iennughs home duting one pencd of the yerr to save the addl un of expenses whi c h were beyond their means. That is u in the grounds upon which he vindicated and justi fi e d the its crease of the grant. The other ground you shall 1 13 v n e io n his own words, f o r I think it extremely material in the :non , of the question which I am about to take. The other in was this—to break up a formidable conspiracy e"sis e L , f o n- Ireland against the British Government and the 13 ri ti nexion. The words of Sir Robert Peel are these :-- "ni,e fend it ( the Maynooth Bill) because I believe it to be t e n et , end just measure, and far better than the continuance rr present system. I call on you to recollect that you a I ris h eponsible for the peace of Ireland.—(Cheers from rh o r ot her Members.) I say you must break up in some waY c ' onn trY that formidable confederacy which exists in that c n ,o;00 . againet the British Government and the British con ~a nh ea —(Ctieers and counter cheers ) I do not believe te , u ' c ' h foil can break it up by force. You can do n , to consistently with. the principles you avow ;tot the maintenance of the 17r ion and the rtv, A dj vs t 1.47 THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY _EVENING, MAY l2, 1852.