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The said Barint to be delivered. at the Ifrharf weekly, in such proportions as may be densanded by Me Comptroller of the Yard, except during the Winter Sea son of the rear, when (as the navigation of the River may pro bably be impeded) the Contractor will be expected to keep in Depot a sufficient stock for the probable demands; for which purpose the use of Me Ravin Field at Deptford will be al lowed to hint. Each Tender must express the Price in words at length, avid be delivered before One o'Clock on the day appointed, and must be accompanied by a Letter s signed by *ltva respon sible Persons, engaging to, become bound with the Party tendering, in the Penal Sum of . 5001. for the due perfor mance of the Contract. The Person u•ho maker the Tender, or some Person on his must attend to answer whom called fur. The Conditions of the Contract may he Arelt at this Office, end any further information that may be required will be given, ON application at Ike Office of the Comptroller of the Victualling Yard at Deptford. M. /FALLER CLIFTON. TO CHYMISTS, APOTHECARIES, DRUGGISTS, &c. • DEPTFORD 'VICTUALLING YARD, FEB. 24, 1823. XTOTICE is hereby given, That on THURS DAY, the 13th of March next, at Eleven o'Clock in the Forenoon, will be put up to PUBLIC SALE, at his MA JESTY'S VICTUALLING YARD, DEPTFORD, in 'Sundry Lots, a quantity of SURPLUS MEDICINES sup plied from Apothecaries' Mali, for th e us e o f hi s Majesty's The Lots may be viewed on the three days previous to the day of Sale, and. Inventories bad, on application at the above Yard. . A Deposit of .£25 per cent. is to be made on the amount of *Leh Lot, at the time of sale, and the remainder of the pur chase-money to be paid before the Lots are removed, for which durpose a period of ten working days will he allowed from the day of sale. JOHN HILL, Comptroller. This Day was published, price 2s. ,111111 E SPEECH' of the Right lion. F. J. JL ROBINSON,_ Chancellor of the Exchequer, delivered in the Committee of Ways and Means, on Friday, the 21st of February, 1823, on the FINANCIAL SITUATION of the COUNTRY. To which is added, an Appendix, containing various Accounts referred to. London : Printed for J. Hatchard and Son, No. 187, Picca dilly. This Day was published; In Four Volumes, 12mo. price 16s. in boards, THE ACTRESS; or, COUNTESS and NO COUNTESS; a Novel. By CAROLINE MAXWELL; Author of Malcolm Dough's, Alfred of Normandy, Earl of Desmond, Feudal Tales, &c. de& • Sold by Sherwood,. Jones, and Co. Paternosterßow. AMBROSIAL. ROSEATE PAS FILLER. 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LOR . *P Pt John and sold by th e S O olePtoprietor, THOMAS TAY hons, .Member o f the Royal College of Surgeons, at his e, oi New Bridge-street, London; %bete, after a constant residence of more than 40 years . , in a practice purti direeted t o th e. core of Venereal Complaints end those ncid ental to the Parts of Gen era ti on , w i t h t h at i nv i o l a b le secrecy which ;sten of his profession should always obierve in rrich mites, h e fl atters himself the advice and assistance be ,r e ttnitortsly admi n i s t ers to persons taking this Medicine, will estu toed, by a discerning Public, as an adval 'Age seltioru attainalele:and veid of all ambiguity. i i ., 1 . 4 : 14 0 cold; by hirappoi ntment, tor the convenience of those lke n g at it dhihtlet, at. the Toyshop, No. 103, Oxford-strvet; si„ r ,L,Dlihnrtiughis, N. 7, Fish-street-bill; Mr. Buxter, - ' ll, W)ritio e , Ea; b if lis ; and of Odin urg ; . We • 01 41 • Ir ' "MI cvery coneiderable town in Great Britainand wienictyd,Hiii boxes fool!! iS. cacti, stamped, and sealed up "hi end phtin directions, whereby persone. of either -47 Varcthernselves with ease, spted, secrecy, and safety. PARLIAMENT. HOUSE,OF LORDS, MARcit.6. MARRIAGE ACT. Lord FITZROY SOMERSET and others informed the House that the Commons had agreed to the Marriage Act Amend- Ment Bill without amendment. The same Members also brought from the Commons the Scotch Creditors' Bill, which was, read a first time. ____ IRELAND, The Earl of DARNLEY did not know whether it was quite regular to ,allude to what had passed in another place; but wished to ask the Noble Earl opposite whether it was his in tention tolay on the table the documents from the Irish Go vernment, relative to the measures in contemplation with re g_ard to Ireland, which had been produced in the other House. He was aware that a disposition existed on the part of the Noble Lord at the head of his Majesty's Government not to acquaint the House with the measures which had originated in another place • and that they were left in the dark till a late period of the gession, when there was no time to discuss them properly. He hoped that in the present case the subject would be deemed of sufficient importance to induce the I.siobie Earl op posite to lay the documents in question before their Lordships. If that course were not pursued , - he should think it hls duty to 13140 a motion to that circa. The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, that there was no docu ments upon this question which had been laid before the other House, which would not also be submitted to their Lordships. AU legislative measures must originate in one House or the 'other, and it was not the effect of neglect' or indifference to wards either, that priority of information should be possessed by the one where the enactment had taken its rise. He was aware that documents had been laid on the table of the other House, and would have no hesitation in submitting the same to their Lordships. ROYAL MESSAGE. _ _ The Earl of LIVERPOOL brought down a Message from his MAJESTY, which was read by the Lord CHANCELLOR. It stated in substance " That his Majesty being informed that doubts had arisen with regard to his right of disposing of Copyright and Free hold property, to which his Majesty was entitled before his accession to the Crown, his Majesty recommended to their Lordships to take the subject into consideration, and to make such provisions as they, might think meet." On the motion of the Earl of LIVERPOOL, his Majesty's Message was ordered to be taken into consideration this day. The Irish Chancellor of the Exch4uer Appointment the Bxeliequer Bills Bill, the Annual Duties, the Transfer in Aids, and the Lanarkshire Roads Bill, went respectively through Committees, and were reported. Lord GRENVILLE presented petitions from Bristol and Gloucester against the Insolvent Debtors' Act,—Read, and laid on the table.—Adjourned HOUSE OF COMMONS. • MISCELLANEOUS. Mr. A. TAYLOR presented a Petition from Charles Greg_ son, late of Grosvenor-square, decorator of houses, complain ing of injuries sustained under the Bankrupt Laws.—Ordered to lie on the table. Mr. Alderman WOOD moved for Returns, of Surcharges made under the Assessed Taxes in the last three years, for Shopmen and Warehousemen employed by Shopkeepers. Ordered. Mr. DAWSON presented Papers relating to the case of W. Murray Borthwick..—Ordered to be printed. Mr. H. SUMNER presentea, a petition from certain Mer chants, Traders,,and Mannfacturers Of the parish of Bermond sey, complaining of the Coal Duty. The Chancellor of the Exchequer, the Hon. Gentleman observed, having lately opened a Budget more satisfactory than any he remembered to have hoard for many years, he of himself had proposed to relieve the country from certain burdens which he thought might be remitted,' In consequence of this, he must now state to the House what he had already told his constituents, that he could not support at present the prayer of this petition for a repeal of the Coal Duty. lie was, however, glad the subject h a d b een taken up, as he considered it well entitled to attention.—The petition was ordered to be printed. INSOLVENT DEBTORS' ACT. Mr. DENISON presented a petition from certain Mer chants and Manufacturers in the parish of Bermondsey against the Insolvent Debtors' Act. One of the persons signing this petition the Hon. Gentleman stated to have had tin pexsons on his books, from who he had not received ene farthing dividend. —The petition waft ordered to be printed. Lord FOLKESTONE presented a similar petition from the Inhabitants of New Saritni..--.Ordered to be primed. The Irish Assessed Taxes Repeal Bill went through a Com mittee, the Report of which was ordered to be received to morrow. The Irish Arms Bill was read a second time, end ordered to be committed to-morrow. . COLLECTION OF THE CUSTOMS. Colonel DAVIES begged to ask if the transfer of the col. lections of Customs to the Excise, which had been contem plated last year, and from which a considerable saving had been expected, was to take place. Air. HERRIF,S said, the saving which the change in ques-, tion would cause, would not go to the extent supposed,, but ' the alteration was contemplated rather with a view to general convenience than from an idea that a saving of importance could he effected. A. petition was presented from the town of Whitby, corn. plaining of the practices of Hawkers and Pedlars.—Ordered to be printed. The Irish Yeomanry Corps Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed on A petition was presented from the Coach and Harness-mak. ere of Bristol, praying for 'the repeal of the tax on horse's.— Ordered to lie on the table. MESSAGE FROM HIS' MAJESTY. Mr. ! Secretary PEEL appeared at the bar with a Message from the Crown, which was brought up and read by the Speaker. Ills Majesty being informed that doubts have arisen touching the powers vested in his Majesty to dispose of certain freehold and copyright land, of which he was possessed at the rime of his accession to the Throne ; and being also informed that doubts have arisen as to the power of his Majesty's Successors to dispose of Such freehold or copyhold property as they may be entitled to at the periods of their accession to the Throne, recommends it to his faitliftd Commons to take the subject into their consideration, and make such arrangements as they • mey think proper. • •I (Signed) G. R. `Mr. Secretary PEEL then. moved that it shpuld be referred to a Committee of the whole Hotree to-morrow, to take his Majesty's Most Gracious Nessa g e into consideration Mr. , BENNE'r Suggested that it might be better to postpone the consideration of his Majesty's ,'Message till Monday, as it was known that many of the Gentlemen who sat on that aide of the House could not be in their places to-morrow. Mr. Secretary PEEL•thought it .would be adviseable not to defer taking the 'Dosage into consideration till Monday. The Hon. Gentleman was aware that, after the Committee had set, a Bill must be introduced ; and in any of the stages 'Of that Bill, a sufficient opportunity would be afforded for opposition to the arrangement which would be proposed, or for offering any observations which might seem called for. The Army Es.. timates stood for to-morrow ; and he therefore thought it likely that there would be satisfactory attendance early in the evening. Under these circumstances he was sure the Honourable Gentleman would have no wish to depart from the establ;shed usage. The Motion was then agreed to. Mr. W. SMITH moved for a return of all Extents in Aid issued in the lastyeur. —Ordered. CASE OF COLONEL ALLEN. Colonel DAVOS called the attention of the House to an instance of the manner in which the enormous power pos sessed by the Crown over officers in the army was exercised. He held in hie!Band a petition from Colonel Allen, who, in the year 11117; was with his regiment in Guernsey, where General Bailey was at that time stationed. Colonel Allen was accused by. General Bailey of making false returns. The Colonel upon this demanded an inquiry into his conduct. General Bailey having, prefiared this accusation, had seemed to.think the matter ought to rest there. Unable to kequiesce in this, Colonel Allen had written a l etter to Head-Quarters on the subject, and at the end of three months he had been brought to trial, not on one, but on three distinct charges. 'these charges were, that he had made false Returns—that he had tried men by Drnin-hted Courtenartials—.and that he had -placed more men in certain - barracks ORM those barracks were calculated to hold. On the first and third charges be was found guilty of the facts charged, but these were proved to amount to mere technical errors and misconstruction of • orders, and the decisions of the Court were - qualified accordingly: On the second chare, with respect-to b runt - h ea d Court-martials, he was convicted without any similar qualification of the ver dict. With respect to Drum-head Court-martials, he might be allowed to observe, that they differed not from other Court martials so much as some Hon. Members might suppose. The evidence was not taken down in them, but t h e )Members were all on their oaths the same as in the others. His Royal Highness the Prince Regent had been pleased to confitm the finding of the Court; and had sentenced Colonel Allen to be reprimand ed. But, not satisfied with the severity of this sentence, Co lonel Allen had subsequently been removed from the 55th 'itegiment, his continuing in the command of it having been considered to be inconsistent with the well being of the corps. It was intimated to him that he might retire on half-pay, or leave the service altogether by selling his commission. He (Colonel Davies) had no hesitation in saying that whoever had advised this addition to the sentence of a Court Mar tial, had advised the Prince Regent to do that which was ille gals Colonel Allen had preferred retiring an half-pay. The circumstances under which he must have sold his commission were such, that, in fact, the punishment inflicted un him amounted to a severe pecuniary fine. The Hon. Oentlenian quoted from several military ituthorities l aa sheer that the Crown could legally make no alteration in the sentence of a Court Martial, unless it were by exercising the prerogative of mercy to mitigate its rigour. Under these circumstances, Co loud Allen threw himself on the consideration of that House, in the hope that though he was a military man, he should not be denied that justice which was not denied to the meanest individual in the State. 'The petition having been read, on a motion by Colonel DA. vrEe, that it should lie on the table. Lord PALMERSTON rose, not for the purpose of ob jecting to the laying the petition on the table, but to show the House why it was not entitled to their notice. On general principles, any interference with the branch of the preroga tive of the Crown which related to the appointment and re moval of the officers of the army, was totally inexpedient.— Of all the privileges of the Crown, none was more ancient, and , none had been, of more uninterrupted exercise, than that of ' dismissing officers, whether they had been tried or not, or whe ther any reason was or was not assigned for their dismiseal.-- It was a power helel, not for the benefit of the Crown, but. for the maintenance of the rights and liberties of the people. Ile would argue that upon general principles, this was not a case which called for the niterference of the Ilouse. He might, however, go farther, and state, that there were circum stances connected with it, which allinded much stronger ground for refusing any Parliamentary interposition. Col. All en w as tried on three distinct charge s , on a ll of which he was found guilty. On two of those charges, the verdict was accompa nied by a particular qualification : with respect to one case, it was said, that although he was found guilty, his offence arose from a misconstruction of orders; and, as to the second, it was stated that be had acted under an erroneous idea. On the third charge he was found guilty, without any qualification whatever. The original charge was fordisobedience of &dere, and quer tering in a certain barrack a greater number of soldiers than it was calculated to contain. It was quite clear, with reference to this charge, either that Colonel Allen was extremely neglect.. ful of the orders that had been given ' or that he had very great inaptitude in understanding them. Complaint was matte, that instead of being tried on one charge, he h a d b een t r i e d on ; three and thellon. Member who brought forward this petition argued that no man ought to be deprived of his commission, except by the sentence of a court-martial ; and next, that such court-martial should be held at his own request. ' Colonel DAVIES here interrupted the Noble Lord. He dee nied that lie had ever said any such thing. Colonel Allen wished to rescue his character from certain imputations that had been cast upon it ; he called for an inquiry, and, to his great surprise' after a considerable lapse of tim e , h e was tried on three 'different charges. Lord PALMERSTON continued—The second charge on which General Bailey caused Colonel Allen to be tried, was for' omitting, in his returns, the names of a number of soldiers who had received corporal punishment. It had been recommended by the Commander-in-Chief, that cor poral punishment should be resorted to as seldom es possible ; but' it appeared that, within a shoo period seventy-nine men belonging to Colonel rege Wit had received 4817 lashes. An order had been given, thilefelien *lea' puniehnient was inflicted, the name of the offender, the crime of which he was guilty, together with such additional remarks as might suggest themselves, should be laid before the Commander of the garrison. What, then, was the Surprise of Gen. Bailey, when, on examining the hospital of the bsth regiment, he foiled two men suffering in consequence of the infliction of corporal punishment, although he had reason to suppose, f'ecmi Colonel Allen's return, that no men had b een recent l y pun i s h e d. Il e felt it, therefore, necessary to inquire whether corporal punish ment had not been indicted in other ceees, and he found, that between January and April, In -- men had received 17511 lashes. Col. Allen, in answer to the interrogatories of General Bailey, - stated, that the names of those men had beets omitted in the return, :under an erroneous impression of 'the meaning of the order. But, if Colonel Allen h a d any d ou b t w i t h respect to t he meaning of the order, he should have communicated it to Gen. Bailey, and called upon him to explain it. On this charge, the court-martial found him guilty. If Col. Allen understood e he order and disobeyed it, he was not, i n that relic, fit to remain in the service; and on the other h an d, an officer who could misun derstand so plain a direction, certainly was not worthy of re maining in the army. The next charge against him was for try ing 7 men by drum-head court-martial, when no necessity de manded that summary proceeding. Gen. Bailey, it appeared, had been absent from Guernsey fora few days, and during his absence, Col. Allen had thought fit to assertibleidrutrihead courts-mar tial. A court-Memel of this description ought never to be re- Sorted to, except In cases of sudden cons pi rac y, w he n a reg i ment happened to be on the march, or when a mutiny boke out unex pectedly. But what was the fact ? Colonel Alle.n adopted this summary process in a time of profound peace, when the regi- Meat was stationed at Guernsey, and the men were employed in the ordinary routine of duty. Ile assembled these courts martial within 30 yards of the ord er ly room o f th e reg i m e nt ' ; on the:24th of the month he caused men to be tried for offencoi which had been committed on the 22d, and the sentences were not carried into effect until the 2eitli. This evidently proved that there was nothing in the different cases that rendered it ne cessary to have recourse to a drum-heed court-martial. TwO of these men, it should be observed, were sent from the out posts to be tried by an ordinary court-martial, but Col. Allen brought them before a drum-head courtemardal. Private John Callender' was tried for' having blank muninnition in the breast of his jacket, instead of placing it in his eartouch-box, when he was at execise. Private W. Kingston was charged with disobey., ing the regimental order, No. 3, which had been promulgated on the Itith of March, 1817 ; but the charge did not state when, where, or how, he had disobeyed that order; so that if the ac cusation had been put into his hands a week before the trial, lie could not have known against what he had to defend himself. It appeared, however, that his offence was nothing more than sup ? porting arms, instead of carrying them, on a certain occasion. James Stanton was tried for uneoldier-like conduct in getting drunk. NOW, if there were any crime which was peculierly tin. fit to be brought before a drum-head court-martial, it was this very crime ; because they took the offender at the moment when he was senseless--when his faculties were etupified —when his reason was in a state of abeyance, and under these manifest disadvantages they put him on iris trial. It was clear that no hurry was necessary in this man's case, because the punish ment was not infli cte d unt il two days after the commission of the offence. Another man, for a similar offence, was sentenced in this summary manner to receive 100 lashes. Private John tiut ton was tried for unso ldi er lik e co nduct, in ', levellin g; his ig ,v piece." One would suppose, f rom t h e wording of this that a niutinyhad taken place in the regiment, and that this man had levelled his musket, charged to the muzzle, et his Commanding r t e e l, ffiz zi . t v, B .as ut ptlraiectfietscitngwaosi,thtlibeit ank aupiinlicii7oeludniineitriloailtrine.:c_tolai(irtAltuucirecatucgodilonili.; com plained of was, " for levelling his piece in the air, when the s Lt ut ar al ea p r r e e d eis th io a n t:l tl iejff p e r n es d e e n r t , e i d nstead of levwelbleninganwinitidiimvidatl;-, towards the horiion.—(Laughter.)—Newl who had exerted his authority for the punishment of such trifles, came forward aril complained of severity, could the House be expected to attend to that complaint ? Quis tulere Graeellor de seditione quxrcan ! He would contend, that an a ofi ta f n c t er ur n g ot obeying; directionsttnelhaetrs w i e e t h e ici pe t rf l e i c e un ayi l ial ere li toli d , ou , goirlttnitaistutnotlei!re continued in the service. An individual, who h ti o te c s : r l em d o ' ns me u fem. e, without reason o r necessity, the ordinary rules of the serv i c e, was unfit to rem a i n i n his s i tuat i on . t a d Allen was dismissed; hut the cernmandereineChief re moed.him from the a u'icc in the weir which was 'the least disadvantageous. Ile was allowed to sell his commission ; al though every step he had taken in the service, from his ensigecy upwards, emanated from the pure grace and favour of, the Crown. • Fie bad not paid a shilling for his promotion. Sir 1. COFFIN thought it necessary to say, as his case had been alluded to, that he had no reason whatever to complain. Sir 11. WIL;ON wished to know 'whether any rebuke had been given to the officers who composed' the drum-head courts martial to which allusion had been made ? Lord PALMERSTON said, he had looked into the proceed. ings of the court-martial by which Col. Allen had been tried, and it did not appear from them that the Commander-in-Chief. had rebuked any of the other officers ofthe regiment. Sir R. WILSON expressed his disapprobation of corporal punishment. It was wholly unuecessary in the army—it was liable to very great abuses—and it ought to be put an end to. He was extremely sorry that the Commander-in-Chief did not take the opportunity whicw the court-martial on Col. Allen afforded him, td state his disapproval of the infliction of cor poral punishment. Mr. IL O. BONNET said, it was now officially in proof be fore the Howie, that corporal punishment had been inflicted to a very considerable extent in Col. Allen's regiment ; and, non constat but that many other regiments in the service might be treated In the same way. When it was proved that corporal punishment had been unnecessarily and improperly resorted to, the Commander-in-Chief was, he conceived, bound to express his disapprobation of the system. Mr. HUME obser?ed, that when, in the course of the last Session, he had made a statement on the subject of corporal punishment, he was told that no such thing ever took place in the army. The truth, however, now came out, and it appeared that corporal punishment was inflicted to a very great extent. He did not, however, approve of superaddin g punishment to that which the sentence of the Court-martial had awarded, as was done in this case. _ Lord PALMERSTON denied that the Crown had, in the case of Colonel Allen, superadded punishment to the sentence pronounced by the Court-martial. The Crown, in the exercise of its undoubted prerogative, had deemed it necessary to re move him. After a few wordsfrom Sir R. WILSON, Lord PALMER STON, Sir JosErn Yon Kt:, and Sir IssAc Comm, the petition was brought up and laid on the table. On the motion, " that it be printed," Colonel DA VIES rose and said, that he hadno acquaintance whatever with Col. Allen: he never saw that Gentleman in his life. Ile thought his removal was a very great stretch of pre rogative. He stood there to vindicate a principle, without any reference to the individual. When the mutiny bill was to be considered in Committee, it was his intention to move an in. struction to the Committee on this subject. Col. Allen had ex pended 2,0001. in raising 200 men ; anti therefore it Was not correct to say that he got - I[ns promotion for nothing. Mr. W. WYNN considered the present as' one of those cases in which the Crown was imperatively called on to exer cise its prerogative, by dismissing an officer without the forms of a court-martial. That dismissal was effected in the most lenient manner p . ossible. The CrOvirn might have dismissed Colonel Allen without any qualification ; instead of which, he was simply directed to resign, on the same terms and with the same advantages that could be claimed by any officer who chose to retire—eer 1) Sir JOS EPH YORKE was surprised that none of the mi litary officers, who sat in that House had opposed the hyper'. prerogative which his lion. Friend (Mr. iVynn) supported. It surely would have been better it' they attended to their own peculiar situation, instead of crying " bear, hear I" The Noble Lord . made very light of the charges which had been preferred against certain individuals in Cal. Allen's regiment. One of these was an accusation against a soldierfor not levelling his piece properly. Assuredly it was of some importance that sol diers should know how to use their arms effectively. It was not a very easymatter to teach them to do so. He recollected, when a sergeant of marines was drilling a number of men, so badly did they point their pieces, that he declared 'he would stand their fire for a halfpenny a shot, and he was confident he should make a fortune by it.—( Laugh ter.)—Many of those raw soldiers appeared more anxious to direct their muskets against Jupi ter or Saturn than ii„,iniinst the enerny.—(Laughter.)—Was drunkenness, he wouldask, a light crime? Those who were acquainted with ilta.habits of the lower orders must know, that many of them could not keep them:lives sober when Brim* was to be procured. Was it fitting that a soldier who thus misconducted hithself sluiold not be punished'? When no im presaion could be made on a twin's reason, it was necessary, someffiner, to make an impression on his back.,-(A laugh.)— Gentlemen seemed to be extremely hostile to the system of corporal punishment. If it were abolished in the army, he supposed that it would also be abolished in the navy. ire was not, however, prepared to say, that corporal punishment slionld be discontinued in the navy ; and he'lloped, if its entire aboli don were attempted, that the Gallant Officer (Sir G. CoAtitirni would resist it. Mucli blame had been imputed to Colonel Allen ; but why should he alone be selected 11)r censure ? Was there no other officer in the regiment who concurred in his proceedings ? Ile thought when a Cabinet Minister came down and defended so strenuously the prerogative of the CroWn (which certainly he did not wish to abridge), the Gentlemen of the army ought to look to their prerogatives, instead of join ing in a fine chorus of " Hear, hearl" 7 , (Laughter.) A Message from the Lorda announced their Lordships' assent to the Exchequer rue Bill. COMMUTATION OF 1121511 TITHES. Mr. OOIJLIBURN said it was within the recollection of the House, that during the last Session he bad been repeatedly pressed,bY several Hon. Members from both sides of the House, to express what we r e t h e o pi n i ons an d i nte n t i ons o f t h e Irish Government upon the subject of a commutation of tithes, and that he had uniformly replied, that early in the present Session he should be prepared to introduce either a measure for the con sideration of l'aillement, or to State the reasois why the Gevern. ment of Ireland were unable to recommend any particular pro position to the House. It was to Mill the pledge which itched so Made that he now Offered himself to occupy . their attention, while he developer the course which, with the leave of the Itotise, the Irish Government were prepared 4) puraue. In en. tering upon such a subject ; he was far from being insensible of the difficulty of tht task' which he had undertaken :. it was, indeed, impossible to Conteroplate the vast and cemplicated - in. terests involved and comprehended in the toiestiou of tithes, —their identificetion with the institutions of the country— and the various opinions afloat thereupon, without heitig pre. pared; when introducing a plan in the way of remedy, to e*- Peet a great variety of conflicting Opinions, and to have.to rein. thwish luqll'oPea ofsecurhiggeneral approbation : not withstanding is impossibility to attain unanimity, he still thought it right to propose for discussion the best plan which, after mature con sideration, he was prepared to submit to the Ilouse—a plan which he knew at the same time must excite apprehensions in seine minds, and distrust in others; neverthelesS; the time lied, he thought, arrived, when some specific measure became expe dient; and he therefore trusted that they would not receive un farourably (at least at the outset) a aproposition which had so many reasons, prompted him to urge.—(Hear, .hear he thought this were the proper stage for him to enter into minute and detailed explanations, I.e would have been ready to go into an extent of argument elucidatory of the foundation upon which the principle ofThis measure rested; but be collected, that, in the opinion of many persona whose judgment he respected, it would be More expedient' and agreeable to them, and more generally satisfactory to the country at large, were lie on the present occasion tq oolitic himself to a simple staterneot of the outline' of his 1101, to have it printed and generally circulated throughout the country, aid to postpone the general discussion upon the details until a future period, sufficiently distant to admit of the ex. pression'of the sense of the country upon its Merits—Vim, hear o—Under these feelings, he should now propose to state the objects he had in view. It was his intention to request leave for the introduction of two separate hills.:--one intended to promote a temporary composition of tithealri Ireland, fora tinie to be limited; the other for a penman it commutation. Instead of seperating.his explanation of each, be should, for breYitY's sake combinehis argunienta upon both: . ,Passing bY, therefore, all general obsorvatMns, he should at once enter into the de. stription of the mechanism of 'his ,propmed measures. His first hill related to the limited composition, and proceeded upon' the prineiple of endete6uring effect a voluntary agree merit between the owners and the pay e r s o f t ithes ; and the ,mode by which it was proposed to effect that voluntary agree ment was, by an arrangement rendered complicated intleedin its process by the peril - liar situation of Ireland, the minute e x . tent of the claim of tithes upon all classes, and by the difficulty of working apy. local machinery that country, owing to the different teriipers and habits so ofien foUnd in the middle and lower classes there, compared with those of the correspond.. ing ranks in Englund, whose executive assistance was resorted to with se much - effect and advantage in local measures. The proposed 'aliibridnient was this, that the Lord Lieutenant should . . . have the power, _upon the reqtheition of the iectiMbent of any benefice or parish, or.upon the desire, of nerti 4the payers of ti t he* 'Within the parish, to direct the eaktollit; ast a . given,number of theta habitants act in the nafure ti a vestref,"tereottliite the preliiiiinaty,natitte of it)ie . A • mint between the parties. It was 'obrious' that 'midi 7 ► e value, andiustice, and satisfaction of the arrangemeer dependi upon the character and conduct of the parties kr C; act a special vestry, in regetating the Mode of conoicedifenie was therefore intended to propose a qualification whit - la4:ff? constitute the eligibility of the periallioner to tit upon the in quiry : those who paid a particular amo un t of tithes were tiliqe to be competent for the purpoee, so as to ceelude the t reat mass of the mall payers, whoie presence would, in ail orehalif lay, instead of asaistingin the progreas of the arrarigerherit, MP' its settlemeht, and mauler, as Was often found in popular meet'ks the place a scene of.turoult and contention, inatead of butineee and mutual communication. Ile trusted that the parionS ctiZed to act in behalf of the parishes in this busiheSs would be pane dent, impartial, and sensible men, who would act faik 0.0 justly in the performance of the doty tissiehrd' to theta.. Stich persona Would, ne it were, be a representative body lonihe part of the parish ; and fmtu the circumstance of their paying e higher amount of tithe theh the great bulk of theit, parishionent, they tnuet naturally be deernel by the latter as sufficiently interested in promoting the fair economy of the whole. To 4 special Vestry, so constituted, it was int e entlect to intrust the power' of selecting some persops of propeetY, . whose qualifications were to be described in , the BM, vtlio were to open a negotiation for the composition of the c:theie of their parish for a time to, be limited. One . Cominii sionner was to be appointed onthe part of the parish, and the incumbent was to have the power of nominitting another Commissioner to treat on the subject. To avoid, lieWerela the possibility of the incumbent's appointing an Incompeteet person, it was to be in the power of the vestry to object, open showing sufficient cause. The two commissioners, when tip. pointed - , were to have dig: power of nominating fill umpire, should they nisagree upon terms ; and, in the event of the um. pire not deciding, it wee to he in the power of the Lord leite. tenant to nominate an umpire fur the purpose. tie had omitted to state in his preliminary obeervations, when he stoke of the assembling of the select vestry, and three cars might he ex pected to arise---either the clergyman or the perish int& be unwilling to change their existing situation ; and in Such an event, the bill was to have no operation : air one might be wil ling or the other'not: SuppOting the' machinery of the bill to work smoothly, and the parties to act in emit:eft, then the gnate tion would arise upon the manner of affixing inscaleof pecuniary,. calculation anti for this be proposed that the average price et corn for the three proceeding years should be taken as a stand ard, and that triennially the compact should' be renewcd was aware that certain compositions of a shiliiar nature had been made upon an average of I l scars' produce; but over suet an extent of time there was the difficulty of making the Novo sition on a scale ton high for the clergyman, anti therefore inn: reasonable for the pariehioners" ' or :Ice verse ; lie thought the triennial adjustment better anti fairer fur all parties. NI ith re spect to the manner oflevying . the cotnpositiOn upon the pa riehi. oners, it was intended to appoint special assessors, who were to affix and levy the several eiteesemenis upon the 1 1 61410ga of individuals within their parish, in a treinner similar to the poor-rates assessments in this country by the local vestries. Land at present tithe-free was of course to retain its pre sent exemption ; but there wits another species of Liod— that which paid tithe in agistment--:WhiCh was not to be eo exempt, but to bear its equal proportion of the assessment.— (hear hear I)—The only remaining point to explain tespecting the temporary bill was to secure to the incumbent his power of levy in case Of non-payment ; and there it was provided, that his eubeistipg remedy, namely, a priority of claim upon the crop before the landlord, should he still secured to him. Such watt the outline of his temporary measure. His permanent one was this--it was proposed that in every case where the mutual assent of the clergyman and the parishioners should be ap pointed, a permanent contract should be entered into for the purpose of securing to the incumbent a certain proportion of land in fee, in lieu of tithes. The patties were to have the poiver of applying to the Commissioners for the Reduction of the National Debt fur money to purchase such lend in f e e a nd they were to be repaid for the interest and principal tit' the money so sunk by the Incr amount of the . composition affixed for the tithes of the parish. This made of raising the money would ultimately prove advantageous to the public; for the terms upon which, according to the number of yews' purchase land could be obtained in /rebind, were so fevourable, that the eventual income received Sty the Commissioners would increas e hest greater comparative value, and a lli e d them an owe s/me i facility of pnrehaeMg up the debt. Ile truced that this would be found to be a measure, not having regard to any local or mere individual interests, but directed to the Attainment of sods highly essential to the common good—Weer, beer is— that whatever tiefecte he might have Admitted into it, credit would be given ut least for sincere intention to mike its opera tion subservient to the geheral welfare, trenquillity, steel hep. Kin j a ntls th ° e f n moved itel4nd— " ( kr leave iieer.)— t ' o ril b e ri i n t g 4 in ht Commutation of Tithes for a temporary period in Irelaud."-- (Hear!) Mr. Al. FITZGERAI4II . gave the Right Honourable Oen tleman great credit fee the introduction of these very bent:- tidal measures. As to the second Object of his proposition, which related to the Bill with the permanent periods, he (Mr. Fitzgerald) confessed he did not exactly tee bow it was to ape rate. As to the first, which regarded the temporary period, he was equally unable to imagine how it was to be limited..-.. He could not undenoand what necessity existed for a recurrence to those short periods of three years esch, which the Right honourable Gentleman had spoken of; neither could he anti. cipate the practicability of that part of the scheme which arm. the assembling of special vestries for particular- pur posies. The Right lion. Gentleman he was sure, would excuse r him for any misapprehension under which he might labour, and would kindly answer his, possibly, ignorant objections. (Hear !) But this last project did seem quite inapplicable to many .parishes of Ireland ; in several of' which parishes the-RightHon. Hon. Gentleman would not find a single substantial. farmer, such as he had described-3611104e would .he meet, there, with a resident Gentleman ; and in very many of them there seas not !one person worming the established religion.-4 A laugh.)-- How the clause about special vestries was to hare effect under such circumstances, he knew not. It appeared to him, moreover, that this Bill would retain much of that uncerteintv which had, in all times, been the great evil of the tithe spout. The frequent valuations Which it contemplated' would leave matters as timer tled as ever. He was very sure that in the ptopoidtion he was about to suggest, the Right Hon. Gentleman Would give hint credit for being actuated solely by anxiety for the: security and comfort of the Established Church in Ireland. It wax shortly this—while he agreed with the'Right hon. Gentleman, in -thin sidering that in any arrangement which might he made, they should not increase the measure of income to the establithed clergy, which was generally cOnaidered, aireseut, to bequite .sufficient,--(hear, hear!)—it would yet be thought to be quite equitable to include in that arrangement, .the lande'that were et present free of the agistment tithe. Ile proposed, therefore, that the agiatment tithe should be included. lie did net at the genie time agree with those who considered that the vote of the Irish Parliament, in 173 n, in respect of that tittle, was a robbery. The fact was, that a great ninny new claims werathen set up by the clergy; but he did riot believe that thealsish clergy lied ever at kny time levied the tithe of ligietmentoe 'The claim certainly was made in the Court of Exchequer and by that Court confirmed. The incre ase wa it never attempted to lie put in execution till the petit ii .of the Union. The ,'pro pored arrangement for the support of the clergy was to he an equitable one, the house was told : he therefore trusted that it would be effected by an equitable levy on lands of all &scrip tioni, including those which were now cons ideted tithe free. Ile wished alto that the arrangement should bear referenee in every case to the labour pet-forma Streit a proposition WI lie had ventured to suggest, he thought, would be the.more ad visable, because it would be of a permanent maitre, and would benefit the landed interest. Sir HENRY PARNEIati wag , pleased with the principle of the Ittglit Ilonoorable Gentleman s measure ; but btrlititinot stated to the" House the principle open which Ole peopesed commutation was to be levied, - nor at whet tittle tt was to lake • place. As to the propoeltion, geperally, he fterieTPaleli) 'should certainly option ins ea it . livelieen very ;that ivoula effectually' ;get rid of the annual v a_uations hp tithe proctors. Sir j, N E wiloßT rose to express his' great satis fa c t ion . _ at finding this subject brought forward "f" 4 ,._"'a e ,.. 0 3 . t i n u te ilsl jeetee Government, that le could not 1 , 411 ‘ pr oductive; the happiest etfecis. If he unitpetoort trio reign; 110404171)1t. l ef t(' 1 7 lef t i n r tt e l4 le valuation 1 it u . thLe::*ll:;:;lll)t'lDifatliir the Lli°4llsl,