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RHODES begs to inform hi s F r i en d s , t h at lii • the CONVIVIAL DINNERS have commenced for the eason, and will be continued every Wednesday and Saturday during the Winter. Musical Meetings every Evening at Nine u'Clo a k. Suppers, Beds, and Private Rooms for Largo and Small ~, f:arnes. T° NEWSPAPER PROPRIETORS, OR P ROJECTORS. A HUNTER, who has had Seventeen Years experience in the management• of Newspapers, is desirous to obtain an Eneigere_ent as Printer of a Daily, or Printer and Sub editor of a 'Weekly, Newspaper. Unexceptionable testimonials can .be given. —No objection to the country. The Advertiser p ossesses severa l extens i ve founts of good type, I Y. it h . ever y other requisite for Printing a N ews p a p er o f th e l arges t Pr e which(ra are at present used for Printing a London Sunday aPe-r, by C on t rac t), f or t h e use of wh i ch he would accept a mode e remuneration, or dispose of them at a fair price. letters post paid, 0. P Q. 40, St. John-street-road, London. P. P rio PHYSICIANS.—A Gentleman, M.D., of •A. respectability and address, and professionally well qualified, 'desirous of succeeding to the INCREASING PRACTICE of a PHYSICIAN, at present 5001. per Annum, may be introduced to one which will be found to offer more certain advantages than usual. For particulars apply personally between 12 and 4, to Mr. Lane, Aredical Agent, 22, George-street, Adelphi. AND COPPER NIAcROKNEsOLYDVAALiTLE,Z - lINTE ISNCOAR Capital 40,0001., in Shares of 2/. each. Deposit 11.—remainder on the 10th of July next. DIRECTORS. Sir Francis C. Knowles, Bart., F.R. S. William Walker, Esq. I Christopher A. Harris, E s q. Charles Lowth, Esq. John Ellis, Esq. Prospectuses may be obtained, specimens of the Ores seen, all in formation afforded, and Shares secured by application to the Secre tary, C. F. Kirkman, Esq., Mining Office, 12, Pancras-lane. THE RUBY, a n e w su p er i6 r FAST DAY COACH, to BIRMINGHAM is Eleven Hours ! The rate and st}le of Stage Coach Travellin g have arrived at such a degree o f per f ect i on, t h at i t becomes difficult to have any improve ment to announce to the Travelling- Community ; and it is our in tention, therefore, only to say of THE RUBY, as a New Day Coach to 13irminghain, that we trust its Patrons will find that it .doserte; to be classed with those other first-rate Conveyances for Which this Establishment is so proverbial, and that it will merit its splendid appellaticn, and become a favourite Gem with the Public. It:will.'start from the BULL and MOUTH at Half-past Seven, and -from- the Peacock-, Islington, at a Quarter before Eight, through Stoney Stratford and Coventry, and arrive at the CAS TLE ,HOTEL, BIRMINGHAM, at a Quarter before Seven in e Evening. Places and Parcels may be booked at No. 40, Regent Circus, Piccadilly, and at Moore's Green Man and Still, Oxford-street. EDWARD SHERMAN and Co., Proprietors. January 16, 1837. LONDON and GREENWICH RAILWAY. FARES. The Imperial Carriage Mail 0 9 Open Carriage, or Omnibus Free Tickets (not transfers-able) may be had at the Company's Offices, 26, Cornhill Imperial Carriage £s 0 0 per Quarter. Mail - Omnibus, or Open Carriage 3 0 0 The COMPANY'S TRAINS run daily every Quarter of an tour, from Eight in the Morning until a Quarter-past Eight in the Evening, and on Sundays, after Divine Service, until T en i n the Eve n i ng . GEORGE WALTER, Managing Director. 'CIREAT WESTERN RAILWAY. N—PI Notice is hereby given, that the next HALF-YEARLY GENERAL MEETING of the PROPRIETORS of this Com- Pany will be held, pursuant to the Act of Parliament, in London, at th e CITY OF LONDON TAVERN, Bishopsgate-street, on THURSDAY, the 16th of February, at Twelve o'Clock, for the ELECTION of SIX DIRECTORS, in the place of the same /lumber who will retire, by Ballot, and for other purposes of Dusiness. The Chair will be taken at One o'clock precisely. BENJAMIN SHAW, Chairman. ROBERT BRIGHT , Deputy Chairman. The Directo rs re ti r i ng by Ballot are re-eligible under the provi sions of the Act. 'rho TRANSFER BOOKS are now CLOSED, and will not be Opened until after the Half-Yearly General Meeting, on the 16th February. CONTRACT FOR WORKS. • GREAT WESTERN RAILWAY, BRISTOL. Notice is hereby given, that the Directois will receive at their office in Bristol, on or before MONDAY, the 20th of March next, at "Twelve o'clock, Tenders for the execution of the following Works : CHIPPENHAM DlVlSlON.—Contract No. 1, C.—The Ex cavation and Formation of the Earthwork, and the Construction of all Bridges, Culverts, and other Masonry, and the entire completion (excepting the ballasting and laving the permanent Rails) of that portion of the Railway extending from the cast end of the Box Tun nel to the boundary of the field, Nos. 18 and 19, Chippenham, a distance of about four miles and fifty ,chains. This Contract consists chiefly of heavy Cutting and Embankment, and comprehends a large amount of Earthwork. Drawings and Specifications of the above Work will be exhibited at the Company's Offices, Corn-street, Bristol, and at Hanwell, near London ; and printed Forms of Tender may be had at the same offices, on and. after Tuesday, the 28th inst. The Directors will not consider themselves bound to accept the lowest tender; and Ihey expect the several parties to attend at the office, Corn-street, &tau', at One o'Clock, on Monday, the 20th of March, C. A. SAUNDERS, Secretaries. 1. J. CHAPMAN, Corn-street, B r i s t o l , Feb. 1, 1837. • vjr: .UAR e DI - 0 . FIRE AND LIFE ASSUR ANCE T ANY No. 11, Lombard-street, at th e En trance of the (flu' t Office , London. MIRECTORS. ROBERT MITFORD, Esq., Chairman JOHN SHORE, Esq., Deputy Chairman W. C. Brandram, Esq. S. Marjoribanks, Esq., M. P. John W. Buckle, Esq. John Martin, Esq. Thomson Hankey, Jun., Esq. Rowland Mitchell, Esq. J ohn Dixon, Esq. James Morris, Esq. 'illiam D. Duwson, Esq. .John G.' Ravenshaw, Esq. Nicholas Garry, Esq. A. H. Poulett Thomson, Esq. John Labouchere, Esq. John Thornton, Esq. John Tulloeh, E sq . Joh n L och, Esq. Georg e Lyall, Esq. James Tulloch, Esq. AUDITORS. Lewis Loyd, Esq. I A. W. Robarts, Esq., M.P. Henry Sykes Thornton, Esq. In the LIFE DEPARTAIENT, a Bonus was declared in Juno 1829, exceeding One per Cent. per Ann. on the Sums insured, " an average of the different Ages ; and a second Bonus of nearly sitnilar amount was declared in June 1836. At each period the ilinuses allotted to the different Policies averaged rather more 28 Per Cent. on the amounts of Premiums paid thereon during the Preceding seven years. , tho FIRE DEPARTMENT, a R eturn o f 1 0 per C ent. was declar e d .8 the Ist of June, upon the Premiums received on Poli t'-des which had been in force Seven Years at Christmas 1835, and "now payable at this Office, or by the Country Agents, but if not a pplied for before the Ist June 1837 will be forfeited. NOTICE IS lIEREI3Y GIVEN, that Assurances which expire at Lady Day, must be renewed Within fifteen Days at this Office; or with Mr. SAMS, No. 1. St. Ja mes's -street, corner of Pall Mall ; or with the Company's Agents throughout the Kingdom, otherwise they become void. GEO. KEYS, Secretary. TO BE SOLD BY AUCTION, BY MR. HODGSON, At his Great Room, 192, Fleet-street, on THURSDAY, Feb. 16, Vand two following days, at Half-past Twelve, ALUABLE AND SPLENDID BOOKS of Prints, &c., including FOLlO—Andrew's Heaths, 4 vols., ; Sir Joshua Reynolds's Works, 2 vols., proofs; Mayer's c l ews, coloured ; Hog ar th' s G enu i ne W or k s ; B r iti s h G a ll ery o f 4lontemporary Portraits, 2 vols., proofs ; Le Sacre Napoleon et le arriage d e Napoleon, sple n did co l oure d p l ates ; St a ff or d G a ll ery, ols, India p roo f s; L a b or d e V oyage P i ttoresque en Autriche, 3, !;?Is,, co l oured plates ; H. B.'s Caricatures, 7 vols., coloured; ableaux. des Campagnes d'ltalie ; I3oydell's Hirer Thames, 2 ; Martin's Milton, 2 vols., largest paper, proofs ; Cabinet du 1 4-, 26 ori g i na l d raw inris. QUARTO—European Scenery, vols., lar ge paper ; Gill' s Bibl e, 9 vo l s. ; Andrew ' s Botanists, Reposi vtZY, Roses and Geraniums, 14 vols. coloured; Lodge's Portraits, o vols. large pap er , I n di a proo f s ; ! Dr. Adam Clarke's Bible, 8 Brockendon's Alps, 2 vol s ., roya l paper , India proofs ; En- Y r elopmdia M e t ropo li tana 14 vo l s. ; Britton's Cathedrals, 6 vols. • t v ) TAvo, Src.—Beauties of England and Wales, 26 vols. ; N aw eale's le \vs of Scats, 11 vols. ; Walpole's Painting, by T Dallay, 5 ‘ „ 1 Andrew s ' s H ea th ery, 6 vo l s., co l oure d ; Dibden s Ilibliomania, vols. ; Sporting Magazine, 60 vols., &c. &c. ; many elegantly wound in morocco, russia, and calf. To b e viewed, and Catalogues had. LIFE OF SIR WALTER SCOTT. piE;)n Sat ur d ay , 18 t h M arc h , V OLUME THE FIRST OF HE LIFE OF SIR WALTER SCOTT, BART. By J. G. LOCKHART, Esq., His Literary Executor. Edinburgh : Robert Cadell. London : John Murray ; and 'Whittaker and Co. Iu P akif:PARLEY'S TALES ABOUT THE SEA. F 4 O Elegant Volume, 16m0., Pri c e 4s. 6d. in orna men t a l b oar d s , E TER PARLEY'S TALES ABOUT THE SEA AND THE PACIFIC OCEAN, Illustrated by Nu- Tees Engravings on Wood. TALES about the great . Oceans, the dift :', and the Creatures that inhabit the Sea. Description . of . tho tor""t sorts of Ships, and the parts of a Ship and its Rigging. , I _3: of a Cabin Boy, of Leo the Pirate, and of Isaac Jenkins.. w h et , about Whales anti the Greenland Fishery ; about Spermaceti Puss al es, Tortoises, Sharks, Sea Unicorns, Sword Fishes, Gram- Gall riand D o l p hi ns : a b out Fr i gates, Brigs, Schooners!. Sloops, St. Je .', Yachts, Hulks, Steamry. -Boats, and Men-of-War, Storms of I.ghts. The Pea r l Fishe Story of La Perouse, Sze. London Printed for Thomas Tegg and Son, 73, Cheapside. CIIII---TlTrlE's DISCOURSES on the DIVINE UNITY. Fourth Edition. ss. ~4,hc Unitarians would, to a man, deem it their bounden duty, ',„,Loctit a murmur or as, to to lay down their lives for the sake of b i he Son of God." Yet have these men, of late, been branded 3', Trinitarians as worse than Heathens : and why? simply solely because they do not recognise Him as, in unseriptural lan and ;',_4age, God the Son • bona fide believing, as they unanimously do, lan that His Fathe r is their Father, and their God His God. G. Fawdon, May's -buildings, St. Martin's-lane. CHEAP CLOTHING for the SEASON, at 92 and 93, FLEET-STREET. ,„ j * SWAIN an ‘ d Co. bee- to direct the attention of Gentle • sieLt_e the the List ° of their (C r ash) Prices for Clothes, from the BEST WEST of ENGLAND CLOTHS : £. s. A Suit of Superfine Cloth es -D o 5 • of I mperial Saxon 6 6 A • . Plain Suit of Liter N l3 And every ether Article equally Cheap. ( ' -- A La a Assortment of RAIL -ROAD CASSIMERES N 4 Net,' ArticlerYefor Gentlemen's TROWSERS. r V No. 13,859. BRIGHTON-MONDAY. The King, accompanied by the Viscountess Falkland, took a carriage airing this morning at twelve o'clock. The Queen and the Duchess of Gloucester took a carriage airing together this morning, at twelve o'clock,- on the cliffs, and were out for upwards of an hour. This is the first time her Royal Highness has left her apartments for nearly two months. His Majesty having finished the sittings for his miniature, Mr. Newton returned this morning to London. The calla at the Palace this day comprised—Lord James Stuart, on leaving ; Rear-Admiral Thompson, on leaving ; Captain Hastings Doyle; Lieutenant-General Sir Thomas Bradford, on leaving ; Mi. Cutlar Fergusson ; the Earl and Countess of Wicklow and Lady Eleanor Howard; and the Hon. Captain Dundas, R.N. The Queen attended the evening service yesterday in the Palace Chapel ; the Countess . of Mayo was in the Royal pew with her Majesty, as Lady in Waiting. The Rev. R. Wood read prayers, and the Rev. J. S. M. Anderson preached from St. Luke, c. x:•ii., v. 17 and 18. Lady Oswald and family leave Brighton to-morrow, after a sojourn of several months, for Esher, in Surrey. The report which has gone the round of the papers, that their Majesties will leave Brighton on the 18th inst., is with out foundation. Lord Western has left the York Hotel this morning, on his return to town. FASHIONABLE INTELLIGENCE. ARRIVALS. The Earl of Euston in Grosvenor-place; the lion. General Upton, at the Albany-chanbers, from Brighton ; Sir William Curtis and family from Ramsgate; the Hon. Mrs. GLeville and family, at the London Hotel, from Huntley Lodge, Here fordshire ; the Rev. Mr. Hutchinson and family at ditto ; Mr, and Mrs. Mortimer, at ditto, from Bath. DEPARTURES. Mr. and Mrs. Hamilton and family, from the London Hotel, for Scotland ; Mr. and Mrs. Collingridge, from ditto, for Clifton; the Hon. Mr. Petre, from ditto, for Cambridge. A second inquest was held at the Sportsman Ta vern, City-road, on the body of Mr. G. Prescott, whose death was occasioned by his having eaten of a herb called monkshood, which he had mistaken for horse-radish. The wife of the deceased also partook of the poisonous root, but not in such quantity as her unfortunate husband, and, after suffering severely for a few days, she recovered ; but all at tempts to restore Mr. Prescott, who had partaken plenti fully of the herb, were fruitless. The Jury returned a ver dict of " Accidental Death." POLITICAL OBITUARY FOR 1836.—During the past year, death has laid h's hands upon three crowned heads—the King of Naples, the King of Saxony, and the ex-King of France. Fourteen deaths have occurred in the British Peerage ; viz., two Dukes—Gordon and Montrose ; four Earls—Egmont, Cathcart, Fingal!, and Dunmore ; Viscount Clifton ; Lords Stowell, Hood, Sondes, and De Saurnarez ; Baroness Rayleigh ; and Lords Dufferin and Massey of the Irish representative Peers ; also four Pre lates—Durham, Lichfield, Ely, and Killaloe. Eleven Mem bers of the present Parliament have deceased, viz., Wad ham Locke, Esq., Viscount Milton, Lord Robert Manners, D. Ronayne, Esq., E. Ruthven, Esq., R. W. Hall Dare, Esq., E. R. C. Sheldon, Esq , Sir M. W. Ridley, Earl of Kerry, Lord Forbes, and Sir M. S. Stewart. FICTITIOUS VOTING.—It is plain that a system every way so hollow, and so subversive of the rights of re sident Constituencies, will go far to reconcile thousands to the Ballot who are at present opposed to that measure. To tell us that collusive voters are manufactured by Whigs as well as Tories, is no palliation of the existing evil ; and such as arc acquainted with the recent history of Roxburg shire know well the parties by whom the example was first set, and is still continued. Mr. Fergusson, whose means of observation arc equal to these of any gentleman in the country, looks forward to the Ballot as the only cure for so inveterate a practice, and, however much opposed to secret suffrage formerly, intends to vote for its adoption on the first opportunity. Mr. Horsman, however, is less Ra dical, and merely proposes in the meantime the appointment of a Select Committee to inquire into and report as to the extent of the alleged evil ; after which the House will be invited to take the subject into its own hands, and deal with delinquents as to its wisdom may seem meet.—Dum fries Courier. SHEEP WORRYING.—This serious injury to the flocks of the farmers of this and the adjoining counties has lately taken place to a fearful extent, in the neighbourhood of Derby and of Chesterfield. It is supposed to be effected by the numerous dogs kept by poachers and paupers. A flock of sheep, belonging to Mrs. Hinde, of the Grange, were worried, thirty of which were killed by the dogs, and others so injured that it is feared they will die. On Wednesday night 29 sheep, belonging to Mr. Lancaster, of Walton, wore bitten ; five died in the morning, and there are no hopes of saving the others. On the same night Mr. Old field lust five, and four were drowned in trying to escape the dogs ; Mr. Haslem four ; and Mr. Cocking four. It is curious that all the animals are bitten in the front.—Derby Mercury. On Sunday evening, as Mr. William Geary, a gen tleman of property, was returning homewards from Stan well, where he had been dining with Mr. Carpenter, and partaken rather freely of wine, he by some accident diverged from the high-road, and, it is conjectured, while in the act of dismounting from his horse, must have fallen backwards into a small watercourse, not exceeding two feet in depth, from whence, by reason of his being under the influence of wine, he was unable to extricate himself, and was suffocated. The appearance of a horse without its rider, and a hat being discovered floating on the stream, led to the dis covery of the body. An inquest was held at the Swan Inn, Stanwell, on the unfortunate gentleman. Verdict— " Accidental Death." The laws of the Cadi, so well known for their cor ruption on the one hand, and their inflexible severity on the other, remain to this day much the same in both respects as they were ages ago. " When the Mohntesil finds," says Mr. Lane, " a shopkeeper has incorrect scales, weights, or measures, or that he has sold a thing deficient in weight, or above the regular market price, he generally punishes him on the spot by beating or flogging. Once I saw a man tormented in a different way for selling bread deficient in weight. A hole was bored through his nose, and a cake of bread, about a span wide and a finger's breadth in thickness, was suspended to it by a piece of string. He was stripped naked, with the exception of having a piece of linen about his loins, and tied, with his arms bound behind him, to the bars of a window of the mosque in the principal street of Cairo, his feet resting upon the sill. He remained there about three hours exposed to the gaze of the multitude, and to the scorching rays of the sun." The same writer men tions an instance of a butcher, who had sold sonic meat wanting two ounces of its weight, being punished by cutting off two ounces of flesh from his back. On Saturday afternoon last, the Times, Bcdford and London down coach, while going at a brisk pace along Langley Bottom, near Hitchin, came, at a sudden turn of the road, in violent contact with a waggon. The coachman and some of the passengers were thrown off. The splinter-bar splintered, land the horses broke away. Fortunately nobody was seriously hurt. Another coach was procured from Hitchin, in which the passengers w^re conveyed to Bedford. And on Sunday evening the Peveril was upset, from the darkness of the night, and the coachman not being well acquainted with the road. Neither coach or passengers were injured.—Hunt ingdon Gazette. The loss of the occupiers of land in Bourn North Fenn, owing to the late rupture in the river Glen bank, will be almost ruinous. Upwards of 6,000 acres are under water —one-third part of which lard is sown with wheat ; the in jury to the green food, too, will be fatal ; and the damage to the corn-stacks (some of which are immersed two or three feet deep) will be set-ious. Some of the inhabitants have been driven to migrate to the town, whilst others are content to take refuge in the chambers of their respective houses.— Huntingdon Gazette. The family of Mr. Andrews, of No. 5, Devon shire-street, Bloomsbury, is plunged in the deepest distress by the absence of that gentleman's children under most mys terious and unaccountable circumstances. They were some time since consigned to the care of an apparently respectable female, in whom the utmost confidence and reliance were placed, and who was then living at Avranches, in France. They were to have been sent home in September last, but in consequence of their non-appearance Inquiries were made, and it was ascertained that the person in whose cystody they were had left France with the children, since which time no tidings respecting them have been received, although Mr. Andrews has offered a handsome reward for any information on the sub ject, and given p u bli c not i ce of h i s determination to prefer a criminal indictment against all persons aiding and abetting in their detention. It is believed that the unfortunate children ai e now secreted in London, and it is hoped that the following Oes..;ription of then: persons may assist in effecting their reco very by their anxious and bereaved parents. The eldest hild, a girl, named Emma, is eleven years of age, with full (lark eyes, and inclined to be stout ; the next, a boy, named Richard, nine years of age, rather tall and thin, with blue eyes ; and the youngest, a boy, named Edward, aged seven years, inclined to be stout, with full dark eyes and high forehead. LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 14, 1837. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, Fmnituenr 13. The Loan CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Woolsack a five o'clock. Lord WYNFO RD presented a petition from a place (the name of which could not be heard in the Gallery), praying for the repeal of the Poor Laws. EDUCATION IN IRELAND. Viscount MELBOURNE said he would now give notice of his intention to move for a Select Committee to inquire into the system of Education in Ireland. A Parliamentary grant had been given in aid of that system for four or five years, and it was necessary now, in his opinion, to learn how it worked. He would not, however, as the Right Rev. Pre late who had referred to the subject was not then in the House, move for a Committee till Thursday. ' might be said, if the present question was one of a spiritual nature, the House ought not to interfere, not having any means of applying► a remedy. (Hear, hear.) But if the prayer of the petition was, :that an inquiry should be instituted into the conduct of the second order of the Clergy, he thought the House would be inclined to entertain its prayer. The subject matter of the petition was=— The SPEAKER begged to ask the Hon. Member whether he meant to found a motion on the prayer of the petition, so as to institute an inquiry. If so, the course to be pursued was to present the petition now, and fix a day for making his motion. Mr. MACLEAN would not pledge himself to move for any inquiry, but he contended that he had a right to state the par ticular grievance of which the petitioner complained. On a former occasion considerable discussion took place on the pre sentation of a 'similar petition both in the House of Commons and in the House of Lords. The SPEAKER begged the Hon. Member would confine himself to the prayer of the petition. Mr. MACLEAN—The petition stated that, in 1826, he had been appointed to a parish in the county of Louth, and had performed the duty of parish priest till 1834, when he had been deprived of his parish by the mandate of his diocesan, the Right Rev. Dr. Crolly—that the reason he had been so deprived of it was because he had appealed to the laws of his country against another clergyman, who had chosen to slander him publicly. That petitioner had appealed to the proper tri bunal, Dr. Kelly, the Roman Catholic Bishop of Armagh, from whose Vicar General (Dr. Rogers) he had received a promise that the charge should be withdrawn—that he had waited for six months without receiving any retractation of the charge. Mr. WA SON rose to order. He had thought that the general understanding in that House was, that no Gentleman should enter into long statements in presenting petitions. If one were allowed, then all ought. He had a petition of great im portance to present, and if the Hon. Member were allowed to go on with his statements, he (Mr. Wason) would be shut out from an opportunity of doing so. Mr. MACLEAN was well aware that the Hon. and Learned Member was a gentleman of very liberal opinions ; he would not, therefore, expect to see him making such a pro position, which would shut out the right of petitioning. Mr. WA SON—The order of the House was, that no dis cussion should be taken upon the presentation of petitions ; but if any Hon. Member wished to bring the subject matter of the petition under the notice of the House, his course was to put a notice upon the book. That would not shut out any of the public from their right of petitioning. Mr. MACLEAN said if the plan of the Hon. Member were followed, the public would be shut out from a most important right—the right of petitioning —for it was well known that if there were no discussion allowed, a petition was of no possible use. That was a peculiar case. (Cries of " Chair, chair.") The SPEAKER said, for many years after he had the ho nour of a seat in that House, no Member was allowed to do more than state the prayer of the petition. (Hear, hear.) That practice was ultimately departed from, and morning sittings were instituted in order to relieve the pres sure of petitions. (Hear, hear.) A committee was appointed who considered the matter, but its suggestions were not acted upon. It was therefore his duty to endeavour to bring back the House to its original practice. The people would still have the same right of petitioning as they now en joyed, for any Hon. Member after stating the nature of the petition could by giving notice bring the matter before the House. But he apprehended that the clear and distinct rule of the House was that Members should state the prayer of their petitions, and with the permission of the House the substance. But if every petition were to give rise to a discussion or a debate, and statements were to be made on one side, which would give rise to counter-statements on the other, he did not know how, under such circumstances, the House could have time for the discharge of its public duties. Mr. MACLEAN was sure that to any thing that fell from the Chair he had invariably paid due attention. He understood that the course to be pursued was to state the prayer of the petition. He had done so, and was proceeding to state the substance. The petition was of very considerable length, and he was simply going through the facts which formed the sub stance of the petition. He was not arguing upon these facts ; they were only occurrences that had taken place, and which formed the substance of the petition itself. If he were al lowed to pursue that course, he would do so, and simply state the facts of the petition. He was not reading the petition. The SPEA K E R.—You cannot read the petition. Mr. MACLEAN—Just so. He would, therefore, duly state the facts, and endeavour to pursue the directions of the Chair. Mr. WA SON—They had heard the prayer of the petition. They had heard many of the allegations of the petition, and he was sure the House did not want to hear any more of it. Mr. MACLEAN did not know whether the Hon. Member spoke for the whole House or for himself.—( Cries of question.) Mr. GILLON had last session presented a petition from a person who was actually incarcerated at the time. The liberty of the subject was at stake, and although be endea voured to confine himself to a simple statement of the facts, he was prevented - by the House from doing so. He hoped the same course would be pursued in this instance. Mr. MACLEAN did not recollect that precedent, but cer tainly the case stated by the Hon. Member was a hard one. He (M-. Maclean) was following the directions of the Chair, and could not therefore be out of order. He had been stating, when he was interrupted, the grievances of which the petitioner complained—that he had applied to Rome and had an order from the Pontiff to be re-instated—that this order was not obeyed, and that he had consequently been reduced to great destitution. The petition contained some letters, with which he would not trouble the House, especially as some of them were in Latin.—( A laugh.) The petitioner stated that his character was unimpeached and unimpeachable, and that Dr. Crolly had offered him an ea eat to perform the func tions of hi, office in any other diocese, than that of Armagh. He complains of having been deprived of this living because ho appealed to the laws of his country. Under these circum stances, he thought the petition would not be considered un worthy the attention of the House. M;;NR. BELLEW trusted, in common justice to the cha racter of the respectable Gentleman who bad been mentioned in that petition, he hoped he mighthe allowed to say when such a charge was brought forward, that a petition having precisely the same character and object had been brought forward last,year which was nut allowed ever to be presented. The petitioneretated that lie had got damages—the fact was he got one.fnetbing da mages. He , would only make one observation, which was, that the petition brought forward would have the effect of im pressing on the Catholic Clergy of Ireland how fortunate they were in not being in any way subject to the care of Honourable Gentlemen opposite. Mr. MACLEAN said the Hon. Gentleman had imputed to him an object in bringing forward the petition—( Chair, chair)—that was not strictly_ parliamentary. Mr. BELLEW rose amidst cries of "order, order, and chair, chair." I only wish to explain, Sir— Colonel PERCEV AL—lf the Hun. Gentleman opposite is permitted to reply, it will have the effect of creating a very angry debate. The SPEAKER said in his opinion it would be better to let the matter then rest. One Gentleman spoke from a peti tion in his hand; the other from a document with which he was furnished, and if the discussion were further followed up, it would show the very inconvenient practice of debating a question upon the presentationof :petitions. CHURCH-RATES. Lord ELLENBOROUGH said that as the Noble Mar quis opposite was prepared to furnish a return of the amount of money borrowed on Church-rates, it was not necessary for him to make observations on the subject at present. The Bishop of EXETER, who had just entered the House, said, that he understood the Noble Viscount at the head of his Majesty's Government had given notice of his intention to move on Thursday for a Select Committee, to inquire into the system of education in Ireland; and as he himself had given a similar notice, he wished to know if there would be any ob jection to extend the time, as he (the Bishop of Exeter) in tended on - this day to move for some additional returns, which he considered were essentially necessary.—(Hear.) Viscount MELBOURNE said that he had no objection to postpone the day he had fixed for his motion. The Bishop of EXETER said that he would now move that an address be presented to his Majesty, praying that he may bo pleased to order a return to be made to their Lord ships' House ;—first, of the names of all the teachers engaged in the schools of the Education Com mittee in Ireland ;--second, a return of all the schools under their control, with an account of the parishes in which they are situated; also a return of the correspondence which has taken place in respect to the case referred to in pages 10 and 11 of the report ; also of all the reports of in spectors, and of the correspondence which has taken place re lative to the dismissal of O'Donnell from the schools. He (the Bishop of Exeter) hoped the House would see no objection to his motion, as part of the documents it referred -to ap peared in the Report, and of course it was desirable that they should have the whole of them. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE thought it would not be necessary to refer the Committee to these returns, as it would be its first duty to learn what returns and information would be necessary to enable it to obtain the object for which it was appointed. The Bishop of EXETER hoped the Noble Viscount would take the Thursday following, that originally fixed by him for his motion. Viscount MELBOURNE assented. Lord BROUGHAM presented petitions from Bath, Lay ton, Maldon, Mansfield, Wallingford, and numerous other places, praying for the entire abolition of Church Rates. Likewise a petition from the corporate body of Falmouth, to the same effect. The petitioners (some of them in express terms) objected to the removal of the rate, on condition that the payment of it was to be thrown on a general fund, some of them stating that they would prefer to continue to pay the rates rather than that they should be paid out of a fund to which all would have to contribute. POOR LAWS IN IRELAND. The Marquis of L ANSDOWNE laid on the table, by di rection of his Majesty, the Report of George Nicholls, Esq., upon the inquiry be was directed to make last summer, on the subject of Poor Laws in Ireland. The Bishop of EXETER gave notice, seeing no Commis sioner of the Education Board at that moment in the House, that upon the motion coming on for the H ouse to reso l ve i tself into a Committee on that subject, he should feel it to be his duty to defend himself from the personal charges that had been made against him in that Report. The Earl of WIN C HIL SE A presented two petitions from places in the county of Northampton, in support of the privi leges of their Lordships' House.—Adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, FEBlttrAltr 13. The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour. BRIGHTON RAILWAY. Lord G. LENNOX brought in a 13111 for making a Rail way from London to Brighton, by way of Shoreham. Captain ALSAGER also brought in a Bill for making a Railway from London to Brighton by way of Croydon. An HON. MEMBER presented a petition from the Bir mingham Plate Glass and Crown Glass Company, praying fur leave to bring in a Bill. Mr. BO L LING presented a petition from the Corporation of Leicester in favour of the Leicester Small Debts' Bill. Sir C. BLOUNT brought in a Bill for making a Railway from London to Brighton, to Le called the South Eastern and Brighton Railway. Mr. GREENE brougl:t up the Report of the Committee on the South Eastern (Dove r) Railway Bill. The Report of the Committee on the Manchester, Leeds, and Newcastle Railway Bill was brought up an•i laid on the table. Mr. POULTER brought in a Bill for enabling the Lei cester Corporation to raise money for certain purposes, which was read a first time. Mr. V. STEWART presented a petition from the rate payers of the county of Waterford, praying for leave to bring in a Bill to establish an uniform valuation of lands and tene ments. Mr. HEATHCOTE presented a petition from the town of Spalding, praying for a Bill to improve the navigation of the river Welling. Mr. Corporation of the City of Worcester, praying for leave to bring in a Bill for establishing a cattle market in that city. Lord G. SOMERSET presented a petition from the Bir tningham and Gloucester Railway Company, praying for leave to bring in a Bill to alter and amend the Act of last year. ABERDEEN ROADS. Captain GORDON brought up the Report of the Stand. ing Orders Committee, stating that in the case of this Bill the Standing Orders:had been complied with. GREAT WESTERN RAILWAY. Mr. HAWES brought up the Report of the Committee on the Great Western Railway Extension Bill. The same Hon. Member brought up the Report on the Oxford Great Western Railway Bill, stating that the Standing Orders had been com plied with. Mr. A INSWORTH presented a petition from Bolton against the Poor Law Amendment Act. CHURCH-RATES. Mr. CHALMERS presented a petition from Inverbervie, praying for the abolition of Church-rates. Mr. WILKS presented petitions from Ayr and other places to the same effect. Mr. BUCKINGHAM presented a similar petition from Frome in Somerset. Mr. F. MAULE presented a petition from Dumblane to the same effect. Mr. HANDLEY presented &petition from Lincoln, pray ing for the total abolition of Church-rates. DUTY ON SOAP. Mr. ORD presented a petition from Newcastle, praying for a repeal of the duty on Soap. POOR LAWS (IRELAND). Mr. WEST presented a petition from the parish of St. Michael's, Dublin, praying for the introduction of Poor Laws into Ireland. The petition was signed by the Churchwardens and Clergymen of the parish, by five Roman Catholic Clergy men, and by a great number of Protestants and Roman Catho lics.—( Hear, hoar, hear.) Ho entirely concurred in the prayer of the petition. Sir ROBERT PEEL presented a petition from Tam worth, praying for the introduction of a modified system of Poor Laws into Ireland. MUNICIPAL REFORM (IRELAND). Mr. BARRY presented a petition from Cork, praying for Municipal Reform. Also a petition for the abolition of Tithes, and Vote by Ballot. MUNICIPAL REFORM—TITHES. Mr. LUKE WHITE presented petitions from parishes in the county of Lon g f or d, pray i ng f or a measure o f M un icipal Reform for Ireland, for the total abolition of tithes, in favour of the ballot, and for a modified system of Poor Laws for Ireland. FIRE INSURANCES. Mr. SANFORD presented a petition from Kiddermin ster, praying for a reduction of the duties on fire insurances. Dr. BO WRING gave notice of his intention to move to morrow for a return of the amounts in the various departments of the revenue abstracted in their progress to the Exchequer, for the officers engaged in their collection ; also for a return relative to the Home Department. FICTITIOUS VOTES (SCOTLAND). Mr. FOX MAULE presented a petition, numerously signed by the electors of Perthshire, praying for an inquiry into the system of registering fictitious votes in Scotland, by which the intentions of the Reform Bill had been frustrated. — Referred to the Committee. DR. MULHOLLAND'S CASE. Mr MACLEAN, in pursuance of his notice, presented a petition from the Rev. Dr. Mulholland, complaining of the grievances suffered by the second order of the Roman Catholic clergy from the control exercised by the hier archy of that persuasion. The petition was brought to him (Mr. Maclean) with a request that he should present it, in order to have an inquiry instituted, by which the second order of the Catholic Clergy would be protected from the grievances arising from the unjustifiable interference in their temporal affairs. Perhaps it would be better for him, as the subject was an important one, to read the prayer of the petition, which was that the House should cause an inquiry to be instituted into the case of Dr. Mulholland, not merely with a view to a remedy in his own individual instance, anxious though ho was to verify all the assertions made by him, with reference to the condition of the second order of the Ro man Catholic clergy, but to ascertain the effects produced by the system complained of, in perpetuating disaffection and dis order, and extinguishing religion in his native country. It CHURCH-RATES. Mr. EDWARD ELLICE presented petitions from various places, praying for the total abolition of Church-rates. • MUNICIPAL REFORM (ENGLAND). Mr. FINCH presented a petition from an individual, who stated that, some time ago, ho had lent a sum of money to the Corporation of St. Alban's; but that the new Town council refused to repay it, alleging that they were not justi fied in doing so, under the provisions of the Municipal Re form Act. He ( Mr. Finch) gave notice of his intention to move a clause, authorising the payment of the money out of the borough funds, when the Municipal Amendment Bill was in Committee, on Wednesday. MR. LECHMERE CHARLTON. Major BEAUC LE RK rose for the purpose of presenting a petition from a Member of that House, now in custody, Mr. Lechmere Charlton, the Member for Ludlow. •—( Hear.) A certain statement had been made by the Hon. Member for Huddersfield which he considered derogatory to his character, and he therefore prayed that the House would grant him a Committee for the purpose of inquiring into the matter. He (Major Beaucicrk) thought that after the statement made by that ilonourable Member, of the correct ness or incorrectness of which lie knew nothing, it would be but fair of the House to give the Hon. Member for Ludlow the inquiry he sought for. However he might be op posed to the Hon. Member for Ludlow in political opinion, lie felt hound to act towards him as he would towards any other Hon. Member. He would now move that the petition be printed. Mr. CLIVE made a few observations, which we did not dis tinctly hear. Mr. BAINES suggested that the petition presented by the Hon. Member for Huddersfield should be also printed with the Votes.—Agreed to. PRIVILEGES OF THE HOUSE. Lord JOHN RUSSELL rose to call the attention of the House to another subject connected with its privileges, but ithout any intention of making any motion on the subject. His object was to impress upon the house the importance of the question, so that they might not suffer any long time to elapse until they had adopted some course to obviate it. He alluded to the trial in the King's Bench, which had lately been brought under the notice of the House, in which Mr. Hansard was the defendant. He referred to the proceedings which had recently taken place in the Court of King's Bench, in the case of Mr. Hansard, the printer to that House. Agreeably to certain doctrines laid down by the Lord Chief Justice, on that trial, the plea of the defendant, setting forth the privileges of that House, had been set aside by the Jury, and the plea on which the defendant had succeeded went only to the merits of the case. Now, the decision of this case did appear to him to be of essential importance with reference to the privileges of that House. lie could not see any difference between the present mode of selling the votes and papers of the House and the former PRICE sd. mode of distributing them to the Members, by which they were circulated throughout the country, and it seemed to him, that the decision which had been come to on that occa sion, if carried to its full extent, would place them in a very extraordinary position. Suppose an Hon. Member had thought fit to lay upon the table of tisat. House articles of im peachment against some high officer my the Crown, whom he thought was deserving of impeachment,• those papers might be prosecuted as libellous by the person against whom they were directed, and the jury acting upon the former finding that that House had no privileges, might decide upon the merits of the case, as to whether this person was or was not guilty of pub lishing a libel. He had only quoted that as an extreme case, but it appeared to him that if the doctrine laid dawn in the King's Bench prevailed, no sale of the votes and papers of that House could take place. He knew not whether they should refer the question to the Committee of Privileges, olmove that a limited number of Members be appointed to inquire into the facts which bore upon that question. The SPEAKER hoped he would be excused for stating shortly—not the opinions he entertained, but the position in which he was placed, with the view of eliciting from the House some directions for his own guidance. It was necessary that some interference should take place in a question so generally affecting the privileges of that House, and he had there fore procured the short-hand writer's notes, and it ap peared from the doctrine laid down on that trial, that a direct interference had taken place with their privileges. He had that morning been applied to, to know what number of copies of the Report of the Commission appointed to inquire into the state of the Church of Scotland would be printed, and that had placed him in some difficulty. If ho directed that a sufficient number only should be printed for the use of the Members of that House, it would be obvious that many of these copies would find their way throughout the country —(Hear)—although the public officers might not be supplied, and that required that the number printed should not be regu lated by, the exact number of Members of that House. It was well known that in many cases the number of copies printed was two, three, or more thousands; but be found that the construction which the Chief-Justice was disposed to put upon the privileges of that House was, that the print ing must be limited exclusively to the use of the Mem bers of that House. Now, if that decision was a good one, it was a question whether the signing of such an order by the Speaker did not subject him to a prosecution in a Court of Law for the publication of what might be con sidered a libel ; while, on the other hand, if he refused, it would subject him to the inconvenience and difficulty of having repeated applications made to him which it would be impossible for him to answer.—(Hear.) By the decision of the Lord Chief Justice, if he were to sign an order for the printing of more copies than were actually re quired for the service of the Members of the House, he would be liable to an information by any party who might complain of the subject matter. As he found now that he was respon sible for his conduct not only to that House but to the Courts at Westminster Hall, he was most anxious to receive the in structions of the House.—( Cheers. ) Mr. C. W. WYNN said it was impossible not to agree in what had fallen from the Noble Lord. The question was one of very great importance. It went far beyond its imme diate object, and struck at the root of every privilege of the House of Commons. The question was whether that House was or was not amenable to the Court of King's Bench ; whether its acts were to be judged by any other tribunal whatever. He was greatly astonished that the case admitted of any doubt—it was no new practice for the proceedings of that House to be printed for circulation and sale—it had been a continued practice for 150 years—the votes of that House bad been ordered to be printed for circulation among the people at large. The Speaker issued his order appointing persons for the printing and sale of these votes. But not only the votes had been printed, but information which had been given at the bar of that House. He would instance the case of Dangerfield in 1608, where the House ordered the information to be printed for circulation for the benefit of the person who gave the information. No notice was taken of it at the time, but when Charles I. wished to go vern without Parliaments, about 5 or 6 years after, then an information was filed against the Speaker for an alleged libel contained in that information against the Duke of York. The Speaker pleaded to the action, that he acted under the order of the House, and that, therefore, he was not liable. That plea was demurred to, and the demurrer being overruled, judgment was given against him. Immediately upon this re solution the Judges taking cognizance of things cognizable in that House, were expressly declared to be ille gal, and the House of Lords, upon a conference, agreed in that decision. A similar judgment had been given by the Court of King's Bench in the case of Mr. James Docker, the Serjeant-at-arms, who put in a plea of the privi lege of the House that was overruled, and judgment W2S given against him, which was declared by the House - to be illegal. It appeared to him, therefore, that it was necessary that means should be adopted for vindicating the character of the House. As judgment had not been pronounced it was not necessary that the usual course should be adopted of ordering the record into the. House and taking it off the file; but it was necessary that some resolution, expressive of the determination of the House to assert its privileges, should be adopted. Mr. O'CONNEL L did not know whether this conversa tion ought to continue. He had no doubt of the course they ought to pursue—he had not the smallest doubt that the de cision of the Learned Judge was wrong, supposing it to have been judicially pronounced by that Learned Lord. It was impossible to consider any publication of matter that came be fore that House a libel. That House was the representative, or supposed to be the representative, of all the people of Eng land. Here were the people of England assembled, and all the information they had a right to receive they were bound to communicate to their constituents. As to the case of the Church of Scotland Report, was there a single _ _ Member from Scotland who would not feel it his duty to com municate that report as early as he possibly could ? Every one of his constituents was interested in it, and he would not do his duty if he did not communicate it to them either in writing or verbally. A libel might be just as much a verbal as a written one. That House could never perform its functions if it were considered a libel to give the facts that came before them to the public at large. He regretted exceedingly that the Learned Judge had taken such a view of the subject. It might be said that they committed an injury in pub lishing what it was a crime to publish. If they did an injury in the exercise of their necessary privileges, they were bound to compensate for it. But they were not to construe strictly the meaning of the word injury, when they had a pub lic duty to perform. According to the present law of libel, truth was no defence. If Mr. Hansard had been indicted for libel, that -House, according to the judgment of the Learned Lord, could not protect him. He hoped that immediate steps would be taken to set the matter right, and that it should be distinctly known, that all matters that came before the House ,pight be communicated with perfect safety. /qr. DANIEL WHITTLE HARVEY did not under tand the Lord Chief Justice to have stated the House had not the privilege of publishing its proceedings in as many copies as it thought fit ; but the question was whether the house, being an integral part of the Constitution, through which laws were made, had a right to reserve to itself the right of violating the laws it so made.—( Hear, hear. ) The very circumstance of this judicial opinion might lead to the consideration of the question of what was libel. Happy and valuable would be the determination upon such a ques tion, for at present nothing could be inure unsettled—nothing bearing less the stamp and impress of sound sense, than that which constituted the law of libel.—( Hear, hear.) He would presume that the law of libel would be definite and intelligible, and the question then would . be, whether the House should reserve to itself the exclusive right of violating that very law which it ought to be the first to uphold. If it were to do so, the character of every man in the country would be at the mercy of the House of Commons. This was a most important subject • at the same time he could not believe those who were the law makers, exercising the highest prerogatives, should be allowed to violate those laws. Mr. O'CONNELL explained. The Member for South wark was quite mistaken on the subject. The question was, whether or not such a law as that referred to by him was in existence? There was no statute regulating the law of libel; it was the common law of the land. _ _ _ _ ..... Mr. C. BULLER wished the Noble Lord the Secretary for the Home Department would state what course he was dis posed to pursue on the subject. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said he would state what he intended to propose to-morrow evening. CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS. Mr. WASON asked a question respecting the Bill intro duced by the Member of Liskeard, on the subject of contro verted elections ; but there being loud calls to proceed with the subject of the Stafford Disfranchisement Bill, no answer was returned. STAFFORD DISFRANCHISEMENT. Captain CIIET NV YND moved that a new writ should issue for Stafford, in the room of Sir H. Goodricke, who had some time since vacated his scat for that borough. Mr. DIVETT, before proceeding to state the course which he meant to follow, would trouble the House while ho gave a short history of the transactions with reference to the borough of Stafford. It would be recollected that some years ago, in consequence of the notoriously corrupt practices in this place, a Committee was appointed to make inquiry into the circnm stances. The Chairman of that Committee was the Hon. Member for Buckingham, and after a patient investiga tion, they came to the resolution that the whole system was one of systematic corruption; that it appeared from the evidence taken before them, that a case of open and undisguised corruption had been made out as existing in the borough of Stafford, and that it should cease to return Mem bers to Parliament. The Chairman was requested to bring in a Bill to disfranchise the borough. In consequence of the late period of the session the Bill was not proceeded with, but in the following one it passed that House, and was sent up to the House of Lords, who, he supposed, could not find time to consider it.—( Hear, hear, hear.) The Bill was carried a second time, almost without opposition, in that House, but it was again consigned to oblivion in that place where so many other good measures met with the same fate. A third time it was sent up by the House of Commons, and then a X Z> .9Z ZIK discussion was bad upon its merits in the Lords. They called evidence, not with respect to the election at which the corrupt practices were proved to have taken place, but they had gone into an inquiry respecting former elections for the borough. The Bill, however, Was again rejected—with what motives, he (Mr. D. ) would not stop to inquire; but he would remark, that all the allegations stated in this House had been fully borne out. They admitted the necessity of a remedy, but they re fused the means. One Bill was selectee because it tlisf.sn chised freemen, burgesses, and householders ; and another, be cause it disfranchised the burgesses only. s;Il remedy for the acknowledged corruption was positively reisssed. At one election there were 945 voters of Stafford, who accepted bribes, while there were only 104 to whom .the slightest degree of purity could be imputed. One argument .!bat might be used was, that, as the Reform Bill had infused a vit s , t num ber of householders into the electoral body, that rsro.%ahly some more purity might now be expected ; but the sauna sse turn showed that, in the householders' list, eighty-five bad c cepted bribes, while only eighty-two rsfused. While there was such an inclination to protect such corruption in another place, he thought it was the duty of that House to. take the strongest measures for punishing it within their power—he thought that, in the event of a dissolution, that House would be justified in addressing the Crown to withhold the issuing of any writ to Stafford—at all events it was their bounden duty to withhold the writ so long as that session lasted, in order to show to the country that that House was determined to punish corruption as severely as possible. He would therefore move, as an amend ment, that the Speaker do not issue his writ for the election of a member for Stafford, until ten days after the commencement of next session. Mr. HODGSON deprecated the further delay of the issu ing of the writ for the borough of Stafford, as the delay that had already taken place had been productive of the worst effects. It was true the results of the investigation before the House of Lords was, that a very serious number of cases of bribery and corruption existed in Stafford ; but be believed the House would not go the length of disfranchising the borough dOn that ground. Look to the case of his Majesty's present Attorney General in that borough. A certain sum in that in stance was to be paid, provided his election was secured. Who was the greater criminal in that case of Sir J. Campbell's, the Learned Gentleman, who stood high in the country and at the Bar, or the poor electors of Stafford ? ( Cheers.) He did not wish to say anything invidious of that Right Hon. Member for the course he had pursued—that Right Hon. Gentleman had been promoted to the highest legal office which a commoner could enjoy . ; and more than that—although no peerage had consoled hilt, is the words that had once been applied to a countryman of his own, it might be said to him, " Thou shalt beget Peers, though thou shalt not be Peer thyself."—(Cries of " Oh," and " Qrder.") If he was not speaking facts, Ito would submit to the decision of the Chair. In conclusion, he would only 'say that if the Hon. and Learned Gentleman would in clusle in his Bill those who were the givers of bribes—( Cries of ' Hear, hear !")—and exempt the 300 voters who were not brilyse on any former election, but had since been created, he should Jiavo his support. But if he would visit with vengeance the constituency of the borough who had not been bribed, then he would say before that House and the country, that one measure of justice bad been dealt out to the Attorney-General of Eng laud, and another to the humble voters of Stafford. Captain CHET WYND thought that the Hon. Member who spoke last could not have read the evidence. The ques tion before the House was whether a writ should be issued or not, and not as to the innocence or guilt of the borough. Hewes surprised at the arguments that had fallen from the Hon. Member for Exeter (Mr. Divett). He stated the number of Bills that had been introduced in that House, and sent up to the House of Lords. It was true that that House had passed four Bills, and when the fourth was sent up to the other House in the session of 1836, it ma d e a s t rong impression, and the other House thought there must be some ground for so many Bills on the same subject. That House then instituted a full enquiry—it had been conducted by the most able counsel on both sides, and was conducted upon oath, which was the most likely means to elicit truth—it was conducted by the highest legal authorities, and after being continued for six weeks they had come to the conclusion that the allegations coatained in the Bill, and the accusations against the borough could not be substantiated, and were not borne out by the evidence. Under such circumstances, he submitted to the House, and he did this with some degree of confidence, that the borough of Stafford stood fully acquitted of the charges brought against it. It stood in the same position as a person accused of high crimes and misdemeanours, who was taken before a Magistrate, committed, and put upon his trial ; had the case fully and fairly inquired into, and was acquitted by a jury of his countrymen. Under such circumstances such a person would be entitled to have all the privileges and advantages of an innocent man.—( Hear, hear.) In such a situation stood the borough of Stafford. There was no accusation against the borough at present— there was no accuser even. There was no Bill of pains or penalties brought forward. What was the House called upon to do ? The - Hon. Member for Exeter said, that not being satisfied with the evidence given elsewhere, he would still con tinue to punish the borough. Nothing could be more unjust, and he was astonished that the Hon. Member forEreter, profess ing as he did liberal principles, should still wish to persecute (for he could not use a milder term), the burgesses-of the borough of Stafford. He trusted the House would - by its vote prove distinctly that it never would be their practice to punish the innocent ; but that they would show by their vote that that justice which ought to be dealt out with an equal hand to every body, should be afforded to the borough of Stafford.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. HALL had listened to the facts stated by the Honourable Member for Newcastle, and had upon those facts come to a directly contrary conclusion.—( Hear, hear, hear.) He considered the borough was so corrupt that no writ ought again to be issued.—(Hear.) If a Bill, were again brought forward for the disfranchisement of the Borough, he was certain it would meet with the support of the !louse ; mad he sincerely trusted that ultimately the Borough would be disfranchised. Sir T. FREMANTLE hoped lie would be allowed to state to the House the grounds on which he would vote for the amendment.—(Hear.) He had not altered the opinion which he had formerly entertained as to the system of bribery and corruption which characterised Stafford, and he regretted that the measures which had been introduced three years ago had failed to accomplish their object.--( Hear, hear.) He considered it unfortunate that a law had not been psased to disfranchise Stafford ; but into the circumstances which led to its failure, lie would not enter. The Bill had been sent to the House of Lords in con junction with two other measures —the one relative to Warwick, and the other one relative to Hertford—which in the eyes of Hon. Members possessed more political impor tance than that respecting Stafford.—(Hear, hear.) If he (Sir T. Fremantle) had been permitted to bring up his Bill first, he believed it would have passed, and become the law.—( Hear.) He would not, however, disguise his opi nion, that, since that period, the case had become altered in its appearance in consequence of the time that had elapsed.— ( Hear, hear.) A change had taken place in the constituency, as was obvious from what had been stated by the Hon. Mem ber for Newcastle.—( Hear, hear.)—He was satisfied that the same number of freemen was not now re gistered, and that in consequence of the number of extensive new buildings which, since the Bill had been in troduced, been erected in the neighbourhood of Stafford, a number of new voters were now registered.—( Hear, hear, hear.) But the question of time was important, and he remembered during the debate which had taken place last week, an Honourable Friend of his had reed a letter written by the Hon. and Learned Member for Kilkes: i nY , 9 at wli n o stated in reply that it was written in 1830. That explanation was admitted by Hon. Gentlemen opposite, and he tbou,:sht the inhabitants of Stafford entitled to a similar justificatiotis The question was, whether the House was in a fit state to carry any measure but a measure of disfranchisement of this borough. If his Honourable Friend was ready to say that he intended to bring in a Bill, even at the end of Parliament, to disfranchise the borough, he should decidedly vote with him ; but it did not appear that that was his intention. He denied that. Staffoid was in a similar situation to that of a prisoner who had been fully committed, and afterwards upon a trial before a Jury acquitted. This was not a matter to be trifled with. He believed it was and had been a corrupt borough, and that a great deal of good would be done if time were given to bring in a Bill of disfranchisement. Mr. ROEBUCK said it appeared to him that the House paid little attention to the wholesale bribery that was going' forward; because, if so, and if all the cases were brought under the notice of the House, it would be necessary to go through one half of the Members.—(Much laughter.) One had-been selected because the system had been car ried on, and, like the Spartan thief, that borough bad been punished only because it had been discovered. He wished to impress upon lion. Members that the only way to prevent bribery was to introduce the vote by ballot, and every Member who went out in favour of the disfranchisement of the borough must consider himself the sworn friend of the ballot. Mr. ROBINSON rose amid loud cries of " Question," " Divide." He thought it was of considerable importance that the public should know upon what grounds Honourable Members gave their votes, and as it was his intention to vote in favour of the issuing of the writ, :he wished to state that it did not appear to him that suffi cient grounds had been given for the suspension of the writ. As long_ as the House of Lords had a concurring jurisdiction with that House in such matters as in the case of Pcnryn— after an in. ht t v o e s b t e i g a a l t l i o o w n e , d andta return h e t e a r ß a i I N l l being h e r t s a r o g iv a i n n out,. t was t he buopr upon n u g c l o i n o s u t i g t tional grounds that be would vote for the issuing of the writ, and not because he did not believe that bribery had taken place. Mr. BUCKINGHAM rose amidst loud cries of " divide." As he intended to vote in favour of the original motion, he trusted the House would a ll ow hi m to make one observation. There were a great number of persons now in Stafford who had no share in the bribery, and be did not like to punish them along with the guilty. The House then divided, when there appeared— For issuing the Writ Against it Majority -I POOR-LAW AMENDMENT ACT. Mr. WALTER said, as we understood, that he begged to repeat the question he had before put to the Noble Lord, as to whether Monday would be a convenient day for him to bring forward the motion of which he had given notice? Lord J. RUSSELL said he thought that Monday would be a very inconvenient day for the lion. Gentleman to attempt to bring on his proposed discussion. What he said the other night on this subject was in accordance with the statement he made last year. lle had no objection to an inquiry into the manner in which the Poor-law Commissioners had carried into effect their plan, but he could not consent to refer to the pro posed Committee questions which would imply that a doubt