The Sun. — London, England, 1812-06-17 00:00:00

:o rating ratio beyond *hat it had ever been i Fires. of: peace. And even in- Continental L'i! 4c, our commerce, notwithstanding the pow , . r of. the scourge of the Continent, had gro\in to a considerable extent, particularly' since the issuing of the- Orders in Council. Tire axe r-!--re of our annual_exports to the Continent dur .the throe years preceding the Orders in Coun cil 17,50'0,001. The annual average of the three years subsequent to the Orders in . Council - 11 , s 23,010,0001. .".f , ;ven the e.7:ports to America prim to tie last year, so.tar from decaying, had_ considerably.increased. 'The average of tile an, 1.1 , A6.1 exports to Americia and the West indies-dur ing the three years immediately prtAtling - the last year, was 22,000,00U1. The annual average dur ing-the three years preceding those three years,, was only 19.a00;0001. The present distress of those manufacturing districts most connected ,with America was, in a great degree; attribut able to the benevolent feelings of the master manufacturers, who . had expended their capitals in keeping their men employed on the same during the last year as they had done during the three Yeats preceding.. He had always denied that theepreaent system was adopted from any Unworthy :motives of national gain. It rest ed .on the:firm ground. of national defence. It. rested on the principle, hat as the enemy wielde3 their utmost extent of power against the pro - eperity of the British Empire, we had a right to wield the utmost eatent of our power against the prosperity of Fraytere. He stated it in Vindica tion Of the character of. the Country, and of the Government, that he o believed : no .Councils had ever been more honourably and faithfully direct ed to tipply the system of ,retaliation successfuLy to the enemy, hut hi a. Way as little obnoxious as poiSible to the neutral'. .Various modifications had been resorted .to for this latter purpose, and partictilarly - the Order of 1809, limiting the block . ade to :France ,and the countries -immediately under the power of her arms. Adverting to the systeni of licenses, he maintained that the Ho )am:fable aid ,earned Gentleman had fallen under ,a great error on the Subject., The licenses con nected With the .e stem of blockade, did not forma fifth of the whole license syStern.of the :country. ' We lace a right by our licenses to avail ourselves of the relief.which the enemy repaired ; and we had neverolone thiq to the injury of neu-' trals, who had enjoyed as tnuch facility in sailing from Our.perts as cur own merchant vessels. But it wain not with the license system that America qUarrelled. We had eXpressed our readiness to return, if America wis'oed -it, ,to the strict measure of 1807, provided she rescinded the act prohibi tory °Cour commertee, He was anxious to call the attention of the Honse to some circumstances vabich had occurred since the last discussion on the . §ubject, and since the issuing of the-Re gent's Declaration in April. It had been asked in that Honse, in what way be.understood the ope ration of the French Decree recently communi cated to Government by the American Minister ? He had no hesitation in replying, that in his opi nion it by no means satisfied the Regent's Decla ration, which required the unqualified and uncon ditional- repeal of the Berlin and Milan Decrees, as the condition of rescinding the Orders in Conn -01. The day on which he had received that De cree, was the very day on which the House of cOmmons had' been pleaa:ed by. its vote virtually to dissolVe the Adminiatetione and :therefore it was not until the last. ree or four days that flee. present Government, considering themselves as a • Go veentri ent, bad deliberated ,on thnsubj act: On the face of this instrument, bowever, e he had no diffieulty in repeating that it appeared insufficient, and teas accompanied ,with circumstances of great distrust and suspicion. It was difficult also, to say, whether this Decree had not been completely revoked by the sweeping declaration of the. Duke of Bassano, that the Berlin and Milan Decrees •wortid remain'in full force,. until the maritime as sumptions of 'cilia country should be abandoned. There, therefore, must exist considerable doubts On the subject. Nevertheless, it might not be nn-, 'Wise to put the country in a situation to, receiye explanations upon it, if the. American Govern- Meat shonld be found dispersed to make repre ientations to France, to induce her to satisfy the justari expectations contained in his Royal highness the 'Prince Regent's Declaration, Greate . Britain would' be disposed to consent, to the anspension, for a lit - lilted petiod„ of thereStrictive system of both countries ; or; in other words, she would consent to suspend the Orders in Council, if America wonld consent to suspend her...Non-Im portation Act: The experiment might then be tried 'Of the practicability of restoring things to their ancient system. If, by an act of temper and conciliation . , not incompatible with the safety of the country, an inducement could be held'out to France: in the paroxysm of her'power„ to return to that system, a departure from which had. been desiructive of her own cominerce, it would be an act redottriding to our, honour. Should ,the event favourable, the advantage- would be great to all pieties. Should it be unfavourable, we must return to our present retaliatory system., if this effort on our part were not met with a cor respondent 'feeling on *the pazt.of America, op pOrtunities would be afforded, in the absence of irritation, of fairly considering those circum stanceS which Inidt. restore and cernent that friendship whicli ought always 'to be maintained etweeri the two countries, and which it was the curse of -both' had es: r. been interrupted. If, by the fatal perkvertince of France, Cieeat Britain should be driven to reaflopt her retaliatory sys tem, means might be adopted, without endanger ing its efficacy against : the enemy, of rendering it less obnoXious:to America: He concurred with the Hon. and' Learned Gentlernan, that would be a rriost unworthy and unwise policy in this couna try to allow itself to be provoked by the irrita 2 tion which America' had evinced. Was it the part of a great Empire like England to adopt- a, conciliatory course of conduct towards America, even at a time when her (one, although be trusted it 'Would not lead to absOlute war, sufficiently . marked the hostile disposition of her Councils Although he did not wish to be too sanguine as to the result of his experinient, yet, persuaded as he was, that there had been moments of such great inconvenience to:Pr:lnce, that ad she ndt, Cher risked hopes' Of final success frqm the occurrence of certain circumstances 'in this country, she, would w,illing-17 have alynirloneil ' , her systom 3 he odd not help- entertaining au expu:tation tltat she rani lit be induc'e.l to return t system : under all these -cireunst._!n,:Lc, t:.e z't ricitr)l: le ti'llst:l tie House would not conient to the .would content himself with moving the Order of the Day. Were the docuareni3 illustrative of 'the negdciation bOween this country and An on the table, he shoals] call-for a (Us:tin& negative to the motion, but as they were not; so he did not wish .to extract from the House any vote Ivhich might imply- their approbation of the_ conduct of his Majesty's Government in that negociation. ME..WHITBREAb professed himself-at a loss to understand the Noble Lord's precise meaning in the proposition to America, to which he had al luded. ,Was it intended .to suspend the Orders in Council immediately on the expectation that America would suspend - her NOn-Importation -Act ; or was it intended, in the first instance, tq send an Ambassador to America, and to await the result of a previous negociation ? Lord CASTLEREAGH replied; that it was in con-_ templation to make the proposition to America, on her answer to which Avould depend the conduct of„Great B.itain. CharaCte:*:SC'd the statement of the Noble Lord; as •one of the greatest delusions ever practised in .. c,hatlio use,- Vci r the purpose of diverting them from the object under their consi deration. A -Minute was •of importance to the empty, and the Noble Lord was about to delay the proceedings for six months. If the-Hot - me agreed to the motion of his Hon. and Learned Friend—if the. Orders in Council were repealed, in seven days the loonis. would be, all at wOrli.,and the manufacturing districts would be relieved—if the Noble Lord's plan were preferred, not a.siugle loom would be occupied, - not a .b'ale of goods would he shipped, • nOt a manufaCturer would be employed. ['The remainder of the debate, which contains very little novelty, -want of room compels us to , give very briefly.) Mr. B. .I.l.AfrilußsT contended, that in the pre sent situation of America, the House ought not to come to .a resolution to give , up the Orderg in Council altof.i:e.ther. Mr. PON - 0;;;BY OppC)SO the pro p osition of Lord Castlereagh, for recurring to the Order of the Day. Such a proceeding, , he thought, was but ill calculated to satisfy the distressed Martufae ttirers'who appeared as Petitioners at their • _ . . Mr. CA.NgitcG stated himself 'to be one of those with whom the :Orders in Council They had his strong approbation when they were ,issued, and to. that approbation he thought them still entitled. He wished it however to be dis tinctly understood, that he had approved of them as a belligerent. measure; and not as a mercan tile regulation ; as retaliatory upon France,: but not as a' commercial expedient. Since it ap peared to be the wish of the' country, and of the House, that they should be in some way - modified,' to their wishes he should how: It - seemed to be the opinion of some Honourable Members that such a relaxation on the part of England would be productive of conduct more conciliatory on the part of France. He had no such hope ; on the contrary, he apprthended it would only tend to make France more haughty and overbearing in her clemands. He however hoped it would have . the effect of making the conduct of America More Conciliatory than it had been of late, and.thought it s would be better that the Orders should be re voked, with the power of re-enactment, than that they should be suspended with the power of 're action, as recommended by an HOty. Member. He thought the least exceptionable way of proceeding on the part of the House, might be to :address the fl.egent, and lay before him the evidence given in the Committee. He merely threw this out as hint, approving he did of the feeling of the Noble Lord (L.vd Castlereagh), as to the impropriety of. the- interference ,of that House with the ExeCutive during a pending negociation. Mr. BROUGHAM shortly. replied.. He congra tulated the .House and the Country that their la- Hbours, though long and painful, would not be in vain: He expressed a hope that, the Noble Lord (Laid Castlereagh) would withdraw his motion. .• Lord CASTLEREAGH • could not :withdraw his motionobjecting, as he did, to the interference of, that House with, the Executive, pending any negociation. 'When the Executive had taken its measures, it would be for that House - to. express its sentiments of that measure, whatever it might be, but till then, any interference on their part would, in his opinion, be premature and Improper. With this feeling, whatever might be the fate of his motion, it was his intention to take the sense of the House upon, the propeiety of recurring to the 'Order of the Day. The 'question was then loudly Called for, and the gallery was. cleared for a. division ; the Honse, however, did not divide. Mr. BROUGHAM and Lard-.CASTLEREAGH severally withdrew their .mo tions,. with ,an understanding that an official , in strument on the subject would appear in the next Gazette. • , The House adjourned at Three o'clock this rnoraing. PRICE OF S'F..ICKS . . . Tlf rk DAY AT 7 WELVE O'CLOCK. - COTISOS . . 57f- j i 1 Red. Ann. . WI I Omninrri . I 14,par r2LITE SUN. SJIEM VAS DI Crlft FAL541.1.4 ArDtAT 1 • ,L NpD N, WEDNESDAY, JUNE 17, 1812.. A Debate of' very consideraMe length took place last night in the House of Commons upon the Orders in Counc!l. The House did not di yide upon Mr. BROUGlifite§ Motion, in conse quence of the declaration made by Lord .CASTLE REAGH, that it was the intention . of Government LONDON : Printed by _THOMAS WOOD, of No. 35, Maiden-lane, Govent-garden; and I At the SUN OFFI CE, No. ,112, -Strand, where Advertiseniebiks, Orders fog to suspend the Orders in Council, and to enter into . discussions with America, in the hope that Atherica might be induced to relax from the offensive measures t which she had adopted in rela . tio to country, and to consult her own interest 4 , :, , ,c1 - ..er by returning, to ao ainicaKe ~. . . , • • I /".• yl • , • ricr-.u.1:1 wita ;(;refi t ..t.yricath.. Our Reader 4 are ... . . • •sentinie;:ts well aeutlainted with our •sentimellts repctiricr-the b ORDERS IN COUNCIL, and we arc not -disposed to retract them; but' as so much clamour has prevailed on the subject,' so much delusion has been excited, and so. sanguine an expectation ap pears to he entertained of the benefitS which - would accrue from a repeal' of elem, we are not inclined to censure Ministers for forbearing pertinacious ly to maintain theiropinious -in the prosent in stance, but rather -to commend them for hav ing given way, and allowed an interval to take plac6, for the purpose of affording, the pub lic au opportunity of ascertaining whether a final repeal would br really productive of those advan tages which have been so confidently 'predicted as the certain and immediate consequence. • Immediately after the bargain for the Loan had been made yesterday, the oniniinn bore a pre mium of 3 per cent. ; but in the course. of the day jt fell to 1 per cent. While the Contractors were at the Treasury, they q.skedLord LIVERPOOL whether Government would require any more' money in the course of the 'year, to be raised by Exchequier Bills, or otherwise. -I.lis-Lord hip answered, that it was intended, to appro priate a part of the present loan:. to the "liqui dation of Excherver Bills,oW afloat, to the anrountof 2,400,0001. and that it was not known if any others would be issued in their, stead; ne- vertheless, his Lordship wished it to he under stood, that Government would reserve to itself the option of issuing Exchequer' Bills, not ex ceeding the anici`lint of 3,000,0001. in case it should be neeessary. The Nonpareil arrived at- Piymonth yesterclav from Lisbon ; she brings Lord WELL' ItiGTON'S of- ficalaccount the gallant achievement perform ed by Sir Jo nw HILL , at the Bridge oE.M2narez . The arrival of the Nonpareil was airnouneed - yestertlay by telegiaph. The Dispatches had not reached town when this Paper Was put to press. • , .The Loire, 0f.38 guns,_,Capt. T. -BRowN, on Monday from Portsmouth, on secret s,:ll4ce, PLYMOUTH, JUNE 15.—Arrive , 1 the Andromeda _frigate, Copt, Tonitzi from a cruize Off the Coast of Spain ; the Friends Delight, AFTER ; Alert, MosusTow ; John, PRI cr, Friends, CUM LNG- ; Plymolith, SMERDON j Ann, TAYLOR ; and the Salnael and Ana, TAPSCOTT, from 'Wales 5' Foyer's' Act'venture,..LLOYD, from Bridgewater ; Maria .; GIEY, from Peunnce '; Po,.MAsoN,lrom Exeter; George, BELL, from London ; Lloyd, BARRATT, from Penzance; Wealands, Honsoli, from Sun-, derland ; Auspicious, LEWIs, from London; and the Plato, REYNOLDS, from Sunderland. she. Resolute gun-brig, with a small convoy for Ireland, it is expected, will sail to .morrow morn ing ; the Olutine brig of war, with a convoy for the Doris, is also expected to sail at the same time. PORTSM,OUTiIy 31114 E . 16.—Ilis Majesty's ship Martin is appointed convoy for Bermuda Yesterday 'the old Romances began selling at the Duke of RoxßtruGli's auction, and the - most animated contention took place among the rival Collectors for the Rarities of the fifteenth and six - - teenth centuries. 'The prices Were very high.- 7 - Earl SPENCER purchased De Recueil des Histoires de Troyes, par RAOUL DR FEVRE, of which but one other copy is known to exist, and. that is in the King's Library. This dayi howev'er, will be the great contest, particularly for the Decameron, printed in 1471, of which no -other perfect copy -is , known. In' the_ Court of r King's Bench, Dublin, on Friday, the action for arrest andialse imprison ment, brought by the Catholic Delegates against Judge DowNEs, was urged, at considerable length by Mr. PERRIN, on behalf of the plaintiffs. The defendant pleaded in demurrer : Ist. The general issue. 2d. His Patent as Chief J9stice. 3d. Tin, whether special informations upon oath were lodged. To these pleas Mr. PERRIN objected : and Mr. LESI.IF. FOSTER replied at great length. The Colirt adjourned the farther hearing of the cause until 'November. BOWLER C rcumstances having occurred which prevented' Bowler froth being Brought up to Marl horough-street Police Office for re-examination, the examination of witnesses has taken place, and the whole have been bound over to prosecute and give evidence at the ensuing Old Bailey Session. Henry. Jones, a blacksmith, at Appleton, Mid dlesex, deposed to the circumstances of . Bowler shooting Mr. BurroWs, on the 30th of May, after waitiilg some time near Jones's shop, till Burrows came:by ; and this testimony was corroborated by Jane Jones, the wife of the former witness, and by three other persons, who also declared the prisoner• to be cool and collected. A resp , ectable Livery-stable Keeper, in Oxford-street,, swore, that at the latter end of March, or,beginning of last April, in a conversation he had with Bowler, he informed him that he . had purchased- a load of hay that day of Burrows, when the prisoner re plied, " that Burrows—l'll Burrows him before long—he sha'n't live till the middle of next June, for I'll be the death of hiM, if I am hang'd for it.', )6bliiltad by WILLIAM ARMIGER. SCRIPPS, South Molton-greet, Grolvenor-squara, r the Paper, Letters icor the Editor,'&c. (poet paid), must,be kddressed. SL ~~'S" MR. PITT'S BIRTH-DAY. Thd annual commemoration of this day, YThick: would have taken place on the 28th of last month, was deferred till yesterday, in consequence of the ' melancholy death of Mr. PERCEVAL. Yesterday, therefore, the celebration took place at the'Lon don Tavern, and the company Amounted to up wards ,of three hundred persons, among whom were the Lord CHANCELLOR, " Lords Ditur.oaAvE, HARIIOWLL, BRIDGEWATER, WEST MORELAND, SIDMOUTH, BROW LOW, BUCICING" HAMSHLRE, BATHURST, HARE \i'OOD., the Marquis of IJUNTLEY, &c. A' great proportion of the company consisted of the most distinguished Merchants ;sud Gentlemen throughout the Mc" - tropolis ; Mr. ENGLISH sat in _the Chair. The Baud belonging to the East India Company. , were stationed in the gallery. As soon. as the cloth was removed Non nobis Dotnine was sung by MeSsrs. LEETE, DIGNUM, SMITH, &C. in an im pressive manner. The first toast was " The KING," and nothing could exceed the loyal energY of applause which accompanied it. ." The PRINCS REC'4ENT " was received in the same 'manner " The immortal memory of the late Right Hon, WILLIAM PITT " passed in reverential .silence; and, after the intervention of' other toasts, ‘-‘ The memory of the late Right Hon. SI4NCE:/t PER' CEVAL " was also received with silent respect. .When the toast to. the memory of Mr. Pei'r was given, .it was intodpeed by the Chairman, who, with great feeling, delivered an elegant ea-- , 'Winn on the exalted tiilentS- and eminent ser , . of that illustrious statesman. Ile then re ' ferred to the simple , origin of the PITT Clog, which, as he stated, consisted at first > of a small association of private gentlemen, but such was the impwtance of the principles upon which . it was foutißed, that it is now one of the largest „societies of a Similar kind that exists in the - country, and has branched out into many institu tions throughout the British empire. This speech ' was received with great applause. When The' Minister's of the Prince Regent'' was given, att universal burst of applause ensued, and continued for several minuths. The Earl of LivEapoor. arose, and testified the thanks of himself nod • colleagues, for so distinguished a - inazi: of appro bation, which, he observed,' would have been highly gratifying- at any period, but was pecu liarly so at the present moment. He then adverted to Mr. PITT, and declared his conviction that to the energy of his mind, the purity of his principles , the wisdormof his measurc,s,t and the firmness with which he supported them, we were indebted for the happinessand independence of the empire. Finally, he declared, that as most of the present Administration • began , their politiCal lives under fr. PITT, - it was their determination to cnd thcnt in support of his principles. The cOmpany re ceived this speech with repeated cheers through out. , Some approprl:lte toasts and and then - the LO RD C HANCELLOR .a r o se , and haY -- L,g,signined that, in pronosing. the health of r Chairman, which be aid prom his 'lewd, he r 4 ...cr" _ _ red to what his Noble Colleague, hod said :,!pccting, the pr4iciples and intentions of the p'tt sentServantg of the PRINCE REGENT, and their' s'ense - of . the liontntr Which they 1i4.11 received the approbation of so respectable a coinpany, and, 2.dver . ,:ing to vt-hat had been said .by the 0 611 7: , expressed his cordial assent to all wl/ 16 ' Gentlelnan bad uttered in. support of • principles upon which the Pur:Cr,un was-founder' —the constitutional authority of the CRovx, th 3 constitutional independence of Parliament, and, the constitutional freedom of the. peo p le. r iq those principles he declared that he should be in' variably and firmly attached through life, and 11 6- , was convinced. that his Colleagues heartily con curred with him in the same; determination. ge declared that he considered it among his pub.io duties to attend upon the annual - celebration of the day, and that-as long as it Pleased God to give him health and strength he never, would he al?b' sent. In conclusion, he expressed his satisfactio' 3 . in seeing the manly and extensive influence of Me' PITT evident in so ,numerous and revectable - meeting, which he considered as . the best pledge., of the.national security, and gave; the Health of the CHAIRMAN; and Prosperity to the PITT CLU II 4 This speech; during its progress and on its COw' elusion, drew repeate bursts of applause. The CHAIRMAN, evilently much effected by what the- LORD CHANCELLOR had said, and by the manner' in which the toast had been re ceived, expressed his grateful thanks for the honour which he experienced. " The Nall an - dArmy."—" The Duke of then:N./own, Presi _ _ dent .of the Club.!'" The Duke of Buccl.EuGn: - and the PITT CI NB of SCOTLAND. "—" LOlll KENYON, and the PITT CLUB Of WALES."'r "The Landed and. Commercial Interests of the Country, and may they, as on this day, be ever united,", were severally given with " three tiine 3 three,' 'and enthusiastically received. " Th e Protestant Ascendancy," was marked by a Pe: culiar warmth and energy of applause, a gra 3 ' part of the compny shouting,' and waving their handkerchiefs in testimony of approbation. " «'F4INwroN, and the Allied Armies in .Por tugl. and Spain," was also one of the fa.vourit e .Toasts of the clay. , • We 'reget that we have only room for a veil brief, sketch of a celebration which may be con" sidered as one of ipe chief tests of public opinion, and feelings, and as a sure pledge of the national independence, freedom, and security. Some privt" , ed lines, in honour of the occasion,-were distri buted among the company, and particularly a v cry elegant copy of a glee adapted to the memory PERCEVAL, - with an embossed border of evnros leaves, and a black margin: The Officers of Mate retired about ten o'clock, and severally received, a 5 they departed, as they had on their entrances the most respectful marks of - universal es; • them. It would. be injustice to omit saying, tha t the dinner and the wines were excellent, and thl t the whole was conducted with the utmost pro priety. INOBLTRPi SHEEP SHEARING.,--- , The () BEDFORD has a numerous party at Woburn, Nc; l° dined with him on Monday ; a'ter roes sales of live stock took pla e.