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'he Ilon. M ember concluded hy , inoving that instead of 19,3841 the vote be 9,6921. The question having lreen,put, Sir JOHN BRY,DOf.44S rose, and having solicited the in dulgence of the House, should his being unaccustomed to address them, betray him into any unparliainentary CX pressions, said, that 'Without regarding the source of the Ho nourable illerober's infornition , he knew, and would fear lessly state, that it w°s incorrect. • He had during the late rebellion, commanded many corps of yeomanry-, and he Would undertah'e to say that there was tin act of men, and no bodies of troops, animated with greater zeal an d loyit)tY than they hid uniformly displayed-4 Hear, hear !)—Since that period in which their public services were so valuable, they had conti nued in the same line of good conduct. The Honourable Prienf. , er said that the qualilieation of being an Orangeman .w . a s necessary to admission into the Yeomanry Corps. knew of none, however, beyond the quacation ot loyalty und good conduct. i bear !)—lf , the Yeomanry Carps were disbanded, some' other Collis must be raised in their Send, and there could be noae more constitutional. LTl4;r these views he should oppose the amendment of thelLonour. able Member. tiir G. II ILL offered his thanks the llon. Member for Aberdeen, for having given him this opportunity of refuting tb' acrimonious, malignant. and unfounded as p ersion which -had latterly been levelled against the Yeomanry (3orps of Ire . hod. The 'nom-Member had said that the Londonderry l'eo. raanry were raised for the purpose of disturbance. Now, he desired he would state from what .source he had presumed to make such an assertion.—(eries of Order!)—The lion. Member had said so.—.(" No.")—lf he would retract what he had said he would say no more. . Mr. ACME intimated that he would retract nothing. Mr. BENNET observed, that the Hon. Member opposite new have dreamed what he charged upset his Hon. Friend. ' Sir GEORGE H I Ll.—" Then 11 desire to know what wattle be did use ?"—He maintained, that when an Honourable Alem bri aspersed a body of men so valuable as the Yeomanry had proved themselves, commanded by the honourable men of the kont, and filled by respectable farmers and others, it was his -duty to give up the source of his information. He thought he • lii ad boend to do that and not leave it,. upon the mere assertion of the Hon. Member for Aberdeen that such waq the fact.— The flon. Baronet proceeded to enter into a defence of the ' yeomanry Corps. There were, he stated, three provinces of Ireland proved to be sworn to the overthrow of th e L aws and Goverment, and the extirpation of all Protestants; and these peovinces were chiefly protected by the Yeomanry—and this was the opportunity taken to malign these Bodies ! The Hole Member, in particular, had attacked his (Sir Oeorge's Hill's) Corps, the Londonderry Yeomanry e and he must say, that 'he su4pected the quarter whence it originated. But to give the Ilotiee an idea of the justice of the charge,' he vareld suite how they had of late been engaged. (in the eteth of October, three bemired of them were put upon per uement duty, thus setting free one of the best regiments of the line to ' ;to elsewhere. They had done garrison duty in tbe city and liberties of Londonderry till the month of dune last year, and during the whole of that period riot one complaint was made against any one individual.—(Hear!) — The lath December was the anniversary of raising the siege of the town, and had always been celebrated, and always with perfect unanimity. hut, because these individuals had get arms in their bandit ' the celebration of an event so deer to the citizen:; of leantionderry was abandoned—(llear, hear, hear!)-: ' Another lion. Member and himself had been to Ditblin, drawn there by his Majeety's presence, and returned to Londonderry on the 224, when two or three hundred persons assembled round his house to welcome his return ; having done which they • peeteefully separated. Upon this trifling incident a complaint wus tratiemitted to the Irish Government, that the Commanding Otterr and corps of Londonderry bad violated the recomm enda eine of his Majesty, by assembling in arms for the pnrposes of triumelt and celebration. The complaint was referred to the Brigade Major of the district, and on ingeiry e occupying five days only; served to prove that not one of the corps was in arms; sot even the band which attended with music.---( II ear !)---It • was true it lira been shewn that the 'tines; they played were • " the Battle of the Boyne," "Crappies lie Down," and " God, Seize thelt'77l.e."—t Hear !)---The 'Yeomanry of Ireland, be ale; 'cured the Illottee, not, only deserved but required their confi dence, in the preeent situation of that ctiuntry: Rehelltori there was going on thle hour, and it was really impossible that hue ' man velure retitle bear to hear, night, ._after night, the wiper. atoms that had been cast upon them. Ile wished not to trans gress the wise rules' of that House, but he desired to make a declaration, which lie made on the honour of a gentkman. This was, that he had been brought up in the principles called Orange prieciplee, end should continue m them to the day of his death. lierledard, upon his honour, he was not • an Orang . enian, * n Hier hound by oath nor association to those bodies. Neither : , be know one Gentleman , whom he visited, in his part of the loi t uity, who was an Orangeman. Tina combinatiOn was most. .. '„. : yto be found amongst the fAriners, wbo, impelled by . the tirst ptinciples of human nature-01one of self-preservation.—.o34 first thoogitt of thus associating for the sake of protection. and nothing else. But persons of Ids rank in life did not feel - the necessity of such a combination, and therefore never thought ofjelning in it. With regard to the projected Bill on this nub. ject, he begged to say, that as part of the law of the land, it wit* good and necessary. With regard to secret societies, and - *erect oaths, lie wax not one who upheld them.• What wasi re quired in the present times, he considered, was ultra-royalty. • Mr. SPRING RICE was of opinion, that if good were to be derived from these discuesions, or concord promoted, they must be conducted with good temper.--{Hear, hear !)--He protested • . egainst the principle of Orange. Bodies. He knew that some of the best and most honourable men belonged to them, whoee egood intentions were cheelced by party ties. Ile applied his both to sworn Orangemen, anti to those who, like die Hon. eiletriber opposite (Sir George Hill), had taken the infection In the netural way.--(A laugh.)--Ile was opposed to those who ware far throwing overlioard th e oath of the Orangeman and the thrills of °rain/016m, but for preserving and cherishing the ,glery, the triuttiph, and epirle of the party. .Ile was sorry to • .heve heard the declaration of the Hon. Member opposite; of his determined adherence to this party.spirit, as he thought it . wee celcolated. to do . any thing but good pirate other side of the water. As to the secret oaths of the Orangemen, the. body -wee the same in that respect as Freemasons—but in all other reapects the difference was, that one was innoxious, the other eridangeretl the pelage of the country, and spread alarm far and wide. GOVernMent then ought not to take steps to put do wn the bode';, but to appeal to the good feeling and oOd sense of the • country sod those. who cempoeed them. T g he battle of the gdyne recall,el the meat grateful recollections' to the mind of boss !'retests :It and Orangeman . but to the Catholics it recalled noth fog but, what was galling. 'By King WM hon. one million of greys heti been forfeited, and 4,001) persons outlawed. As to it': illl alhitied to, it was a deluelon--the far:na might he die. peeled Frith', but the spirit would still rernaii: to work its heart •burriiitg course. With regard to the Yeomanry, teany, he be lieved, were not Orangemen, but the corps were becoming more end more so.. in the ,South of Ireland, Vrange'Lodges had 'Jim been instittitiel by a met of Policemen, and had ever since bpen extending its baneful influence to all the constituted au ' thorities, reel or every institution. esir lt. HILL said a few words in explaratiov. 14f r. DAWSON bad conceived hopes front the commence ill ent'ef his lion. Friend's speech (Mr: , S. Rice), that he would not hheiself follow the example of that tone which be depre cated it. others. But when he went so far as to say that Orange prineiphee arid spirit pervaded every institution, and all the Constivted Authorities, he must think he hail transgressed those limiti of moderatien which lie had prescribed to others. That he was sure wax not the way to attain concord and una nimity. Hie Honourable Friend was wrong in attributing the ' introduction of Orengeieni to the P(diceinen }he bud notieed— it WWI to. the town tof liandoe that it took its might. lint if I.' was r.,ot dispo3ad to agree with - his Honourable Friend 'Orrtia.titit, he wee still less disposed to agree with the Honour . A lec r.iiiinher for„ herdeen. Ile had hail the honour to -COM -Maud a yeomanry corpe, in a part of the country where the epirlt of Oraneeisin 'wee slid to flourislein the greatest perfec teen. Ile had even heerd it said of him, that he carried the spirit. so fax that he was ready to foment a spirit of insurree , tem in the country,usd wue at any thee ready to take up arms againtt the Governineet. He must say it was very bant that Hoe. Gotten - ten ;;bouts', gene down to that House, anti make aesterdone and accusetiorte from which Gentlemen connected with the coun try abstained. From whatever source these accusations came, 'whether front letters signed, or anonymous, they proceed. od from woo daligeroos cheraeters. At all events, this was not the tame to yetoinelgatti such ,ealuinnies. Such assertions had ,the Wearer retrieving still .fartber off the reconciliation Ito re quisite, and so enuch deerirod.--(llear !)—The origin of the yootastuy ;aye was owing to the insuffictency of the means of covernment ce put down the rebellion, and loyalty, end a de. * ire telepeese ineurrection, Way all that was dewed to qualify a eentlidete fer.adinleeion. „Intim course of time, however, the vett of 4;ssenition whirs agitated, the country, found its. way Into t hole corps. It 'first sheicd itself in the application of the Catholics to Mr. What% to he allowed-to enrol them eelvea in sepnrete corps. Mr. rellram desired them to go back and mingle with their Protestant comrades, but this was n et, ei ,, r ei e d with. it wita,an important fact, that where the Pro. testanti and Persbyteriens abounded, the corps also abounded, and Where the Catholics, pretiondierated , , these,corps declined, . and the pea,:eable reed insorreetionary spirit were in the same ' Ingot -Thee in tics County of A Won there were twenty-nine, . ,p it in teenage* tvesin4, and ,many other in the save way,' and here xli. sNre pea t ecoMe. -I,a Cod , theiy were eight, in V.il. kenny,three, in bitnericit three, _and what was the sand!.. tion of these (*tides.; In every one of them. the Insarree. —4 tion Act was in opetittionhe ( Deposition was bad—such as, taught neither to fear ilitKl, ,nor respect matt.—{Hear , heard)--- There wit no part al' hie Majesty's dominions in which more contmtpt was shorn for the laws, and more hatred for the Con. stitution, than were to be Nfitnesst:d h the Sontli.Of !Matta. and in no part of the empire were there persons whop it would be more dangerous to trait with arms. Lii,considered the yeo. manryforee to he of no small importance, and must object to a meatnre which would go to disarm the Protestants in the North of Ireland, and put arms in hands of those who could not be safely trusted with theM, and who Might possibly abuse th?m, As Commander cif a colts of yeomanry, he could not .but rise as he had done on this occasion, and give vent to what he hoped would appear a proper feeling, under all the eireum .stances of the case. lllr. S. RWE explained. • St .J. NEWPORT would not retaliate . by i ecin u (ion s against the loth of Ireland, on the sweeping epithets dealt out by the lice. Gentleman against the South, when he had stated to the •liouselatian contained *to man who had any-regard for the duties of a teocel subject, moral, civil, or religious. This in effect had been stated, as thin on. Gentledianbad declared, that the inhabitants of ..that part of Ireland had no fear of Clod, and no regard for men. Though he hail no charge to bring against Waterford, it had •been included in the injurious statement. —lle (Sir J. Newport) had long been of opinion that for a. country situated as Ireland was, a local force,•such as Yeo manry or Militia, et as not suited to its condition, as the indi viduals for Ming these corps naturally carried with them into any service which they might have to perform, all the party feel- , logs and private prejudices which might prevail in those parts. When the lion. Gentleman talked of the Solidi of Irelaud, it was not well to recall the horrors of IPA Ile was older than the Hon. Gentleman, and unfortunately had seen more of those troubles than lie'desired, and knew more on the subject than the lion. Gintleman could know but from tradition. But much as he had suffered front those who were then rebels, lie did not think it right to goad their descendants by recalling the occur rences of that period. It was time that• the veil of oblivion should descend oti. them ; and he would say, for God's sake, after twenty years had elapsed, let not the descendants of the. parties he taunted with the follies or crimei of their ancestry. It was desirable that all parties should abstain from taking such a course, but it was especially necessary that • the Home Secte , tury, whose duty it was to guard against breaches of the public peace, should avoid indulging in such accusations. Ile was anxious that measures of conciliation should be adopted, but he did, not say . that the Yeomanry Corps ought wholly to cease at this time. Anxious as lie had already stated himself to be for conciliation, he wished to see all par ties come forward in the spirit of that admirable letter which his Majesty hail left to Ireland, and if they did so more would be done for the commercial prosperity of the country, which could only be established on its moral prosperity than would be effated by any other means. Something bail been stated by the lion. Gentleman respecting the contrast between the Yeomanry and the Volunteers. If there was a period in which the law had been better obeyed than in any other, it was in the three years when the Volunteer force WA% kept up. Ile wished the whole subject to be looked at without that acrimony, which too often prevailed when Irish questions were brought under discussion. Mr. DAWSON, in explanation, said he had not made the supposed comparison between the Yeomanry and the Volun teers, nor had he meant to describe the whole population of the South of Ireland as having no fear 'for God and no respect for man. Ile had only intended to apply those expressions tollie parties who had taken arms against their Sovereign. Mr. PLUNKETT' was sorry the topics of this night had been brought forward for discussion, after the cheering prospect held out at the close of the last debate. He would not have troubled the House with one word on the present occasion'bad he not feared that his silence' would be taken for an admission of facts which had been alleged or inferred. It had been put to him, whether it did not come within his knowledge that the Yeomanry of Ireland had inieconducted themselves in various parts, and 'used their arms improperly in sonic instances. lie begged to say in the most distinct manner that no such circum stance had conic before him, nor did he believe the fact. He did not mean to say that in so numerous a body there had been no . instances of individual miebonduct, but they had not exceeded the number which might have been looked for in any similar body, and when they had occurred, the most active measures had been taken to punish and put down the offence. The general Yeomanry of Ireland presented no fair subject for complaint, as having in any case violated the log. But while lie thus bore testimony to the merits of that body, he could not but regret that so few Catholics were to .be found in the yeo manry of the North of Ireland. He recollected a good ,deal connected with the yeomanry from the first of its establishment in that coantry. On many points he could speak from his own_ knowledge, a knowledge which, from the circumstances con fleeted wef ; fl t its acquirements, he would gladly exchange for the eompnrative ignorance of the lion. Gentleman on that subject. Ile heti loot active in setting that corps going. In 1790, a meeting of the members of the profession to which be belonged had been b'ela in his house, where the merits of such a force were discussed, Anti a proposition for the establishment of the yeomanry had been forwarded to. the Government, on the fide. lowing day. The rebellion, however, wliteh the y Iry was intended to oppose had been hatched and promoted, not, by Catholics but by Protestants, in the North of Ireland., rum Dublin to Bantry Bay he was not aware that a Roman Catholic had been foUnd among the United Irishmen. The plot had been termed by Protestant conepiratoes but too soon afterwards Roman Catholics came into it. The Catholics had offered to join the yeomanry, when that force was first raised. He was sorry to say that the offer had not been Met as it ought, to have been. Afterwards they wished to forM a corps by themselves, but thitt was not acceded to by the Government. The Catholics then got into such corps as would receive them. That of the Lawyers, he was proud to say, hail been the first to welcome them 'with open arms. Many of them had assisted most meritoriously in suppress. ing the rebellion. The Orange Societies, though composed of most honourable individuals, did not greatly serve the cause, as while they put down the rebellion with one -band, by their conduct be had considered them to . excite it with the other. This feeling hid been so strong on his mind, that when Orange favOurs had been exhibited in the corps to which he belonged, he (Mr., Plunkett). had expressed his disapprobation, and dee clewed Ite would .quit the ranks if they were not thrown aside ; they had in consequence been put away. An allusion had been made to What he was supposed to have said with reepect to the Society of Ribbonmen. He had necessarily been obliged to have recourse to strong measures since he had been in office, to put down that dangerous Society. But when he understood himself to have been described to have said that they had been connected in three comities, and bound by oath to extirpate t h e p rotes t a nt Religion, it was necessary for him to say that he hail never made such an essertion; nor could he do Si) with truth. It was,certainly a most dangerous Assticiation. It was had enough described as it teeny was, it was not worth while to make it mill worse. The itibbonmen had been spoken of as having caused the Orange Societies to exist., This was incor. rect. If either Society must be spoken of as haVing called the other into existence, it was the Orange Society that had called into existence the Ribbonmen, as the former Society had been fbanded at an earlier period than the latter. The Bibbonnien formed a dangerous Society, on ac count, first, of their illegal oath, next front its being a reit« gious and an exclusive 'society, and thirdly, because it was known to he seditious, and only waited a favourable opportue nity for doing mischief. But it had not teen its object to ex tirpate the Protestant religion. It combined every thing that was absurd, ignorant, and vicious, in the country. The schemes which had been formed in it were'att absurd anti as various as the individuals who composed it. At one time its plan was to join with the radicals in this country to change the Constitu tion and religion of ,the State; at another it was their object to disunite the two countries.. Some of the Members had given out that they proposed to extirpate the Protestant religion al , together ; but no proof was afibrded that such had re-ally been their object. To say that a lbw curpenters or coal - porters could entertain such an idea was not proving it to have been . contemplated by the society genereliy. In saying this, he, had no wish to speak in mitigation of its mischievous I utracter. Ile had been the means of .bringing many of its members to justice, anti had anxiously laboured to put it down. The measures now to be adopted, would, he trusted, soon.bring it, to its end. But nothing, he WAS of opinion , would tend so much to the accomplishment of that object as the ter. tnination of the Orange societies,' if the Gentlemen belonging to them could be prevailed upon to dissolve them. Be knew them to he composed cf highly respectable individuals, and thought it would be " very desirable to prevail upon them to withdraw from the association, but he could not concur in the propriety of tieing any harsh mensuree or harsh language to ward% them. That which made Orange Associations dangerous was not their secresy, nor their Illegal oath, but their exclusive character. Exactly in proportion as their objects arc supposed to be natriotic and good was the reproach cast on the Catholics by their exclusion offensive and severe. While such aseocie mins of Proteetante continued, it was to be expected that si miler essociations of Catholics would be fonnW, front which Protitanints would be excluded. These two hostile bands were were called into existence, and these dissensions, so much to he regretted, must still be kept up. He, however, saw a prospect now of an end being put, to them. The late debate had proved that there was no &portion to keep these angry feelings alive which had prevailed but too long. General lIART spoke in approbation of the Yeomanry Corp, and WAX not aware that Catholics had been excluded from tliem. Mr. BUTTERWORTH, in the present state of Ireland, 'could nut but oppose a proposition for diminishing the nuni hers of tits Yeomanry, amid must therefore vote against the AMendment. • • • Mr.. GRATTAN complained of the sweeping charges pre ferred by the lion. Member for Londonderry on this, as also on a former occasion, against the-SOuth of Ireland, and .contended that these were unmerited, and that the Catholics were es anxi ous to do their duty as any body of melt could be. Mr. GOT; UDC RN called the attention of the House to the real question before them, which was, would they or could they not diminish the numbers of the Yeomanry in Ireland. No thing bail been urged in favour of the proposition by the Hon. Gentleman, or those who had followed him, but there two ar guments, that there were neuritis in the Yeomanry who were 'Orangemen, and therefore the Yeomanry ought to be re duced, or thatabeing friendly to conciliation those who had spoken wished the Yeotnanry to be diecharged. The Hon. Member for Aberdeen would discharge the whole.of the Yeo- Amory Corps because Orangemen were in theM ' and because from 40111 C of them Catholics were .excluded. He called the .Houseto bear in mind the services whiclethose corps had ren dered. Ile would not look hack to the period of 1798, es he agreed with the Right lion. Baronet thatit were better to 'drop the veil over the events of that day; but he begged to remind them of their servict-a within the last - fewyears, and these tea Membered, it would be bad polity to dismiss them. After their recent exertions, and after the approbation called forth by those services, it would be 'highly improper to agree to a vote which would seem to them to be unworthy and use less. As an act ofeonciliation inch a step.could have no value for an act of injustice could not conciliate, and he therefore thought the House could have no difficulty in resisting the amendment. Mr. A BERCROMBY said the Right Hon.-Gentleman had misconceived the proposition of his - Hon. Friend, as he conei tiered it to he his object to put an end to the yeomanry force in r ae li n d, lie denied that this was the effect or the spirit of his motion. What the Hon. Gentleman wished was, to limit the suPplY for six months, that an opOortimity might be afford ed to him of forming his opinion on the nature of the force which 'ought to be maintained. lie (Mr. Abercrombv) under stood Ministers to have pledged themselves to bring in a mea sure shortly after the recess, to extend the Act of the 39th of the late King to Ireland. This -measure had been recom mended by the Marquis of 'Wellesley last November ; and he therefore supposed that the Noble Lord considered it. neces sary to tranquillize that country. It was on this ground that he (Mr. Abercromby) on a former night had : withdrawn his motion. In that now brought forward, a degree of mistrust was manifested, which he (Mr. Abercromby), after asking leave to withdraw his Motion; had no right to indulge, lie therefore could not vote for the amendment, which had been moved, as to do so would be inconsistent with the course which be had previously taken. Colonel TRENCH had understood the Hon. Member for Aberdeen to with the yeomanry force done away with altogether. edidd state that in many of the, corps no diatinction was made between <",atliolics and Protestants. Catholics of pm. perty would always be as anxious to support the institutions of the country as Protestants. He had the pleasure to know that there were many loyal and highly meritorious Catholics in that part of the country from which he came. Air. Secretary PEEL, after briefly noticing the understand. ing come to on a former night. with respect to the introduction .6f a Bill for the extension of the Act of the 39th of the late King to Ireland, said, if the object of the Hon. Gentleman was only to gain time for forming an opinion,: lie had acted most unwisely in prematurely condemning a body of men (as he had done in bis speech), on whose merits be had hereafter to form pit judgment. After , the services rendered by the yeomanry, p it would.be impolitic" to dismiss them, and, as a measure of conciliation, such a measure would even be worse than it was, viewed but as a measure of policy. He ninth regretted that. the subject °had been brought forward on the present oc casion:. But the Hon. Getleman could not expect that when he threw such imputations on a large body of men, that those whose constituents they were would decline repelling them. After aliahey had heard, be thought the conclusion to which the House most come was this, that the lion. Gentleman bad been grossly imposedupon. When' e had stated that the qua lificanon, for admission into the Yeomanry WAN that the party should he a Protestant and an Otungeman, he must surely feel that he had been misled. lie had then said that the Yeomanry oil Ireland lied been ready (he hoped the Hon. Gentleman would recall his Words) to turn their arms ogainet their Sove. reign.. Sueh an unfounded assertion against a large body of men he had never heard before. The authority front which be derived such information could only be animated by malice, and must hare iniaehief for its object. Ile lipped the lion. Gentleman would withdraw his motion, or that the House by a signal majority, would mark their determination to put down this attack on the Yeomanry of Ireland. Mr. BENNET was not disposed to undervalue the services of the Yeomanry of Ireland, but be thought if the amendment of his Hon. Friend were adopted, :it would prove a measure of conciliation, as be was of opinion with his Right lion. Friend, the Member for NVaterford, that a local force was not that which was best adapted to the present state of Ireland. lie gave the motion his cordial support. Mr. HUME, in reply, disclaimed all malice, or intended mischief. • In his speech he had applied no epithets to indivi duals, though he did apply some, to a body of men, because be considered them. to be Orangemen. - After a few words front Mr. Hirrottursort, the Amendment was negatived, and the Resolution agreed to. • The Report was then proceeded with. On the Resolution proposing a grant of 10,8891. for the Royal Military College at Satallitirst, Mr. HUME thought the eatablishincnt might be reduced. He would diemisi the Governor, and of four Cal nains he would retain but two, and make other changes. He moved as an Amendment, that the sum of 3,239/. should he deducted from' the grant. ' Lord PALAIERSTON said, as the eatabl%imient was one the utility of which Could not be doubted, and he thought it could hardly be expected such an establishment' should be maintained for less than between 10 and 11,0001. per annum. As the Hon Gentleman gave no reason why the Governor should be dismissed, he ahouid only 'answer ' that he was of opinion he ought to be retained ; and for the Captains, he was as thoroughly . convinced, that four were necessary, as the Right Hon. Gentleinan could be that two were sufficient. Colonel DAVIES condemned the establishment as extra vagant, as no fewer than sixty-eight persons were retained to educate two !Modred and twenty young gentlemen. Sir A. HOPE defended the Institution, and maintained, that the duties of the Governor and other Officers weresnxious, arduous, and indispensable. The Conimissioners of Military Inquiry recommended none of the reductions which the lion. Gentleman prop6sed. lie enumerated the yearly reductions made by the Commissioners of the College, and said that even this year 1,900/. had been reduced. When the House saw the Com Missioners thus doing their duty so conscientiously, be trusted that it would aupport the vote, and confide in their further exertions. Mr. G. BENNET said, that when this establishment should be placed upon a footing of economy, it would be con sidered as a public good; until then it was a public nuisance. s Sir A. HOPE explained. ' 'Mr. F. PALMER said, that while the number of pupils had diminished, the charge for contingencies had doubled. After a few words from Sir A. Hors, the House divided— ' For the Resolution a - 107 For the Amend nient • 14 Majority - —93 The next Resolution was /9,1501. for the charge for GAT, risons. Mr. HUME objected to the expense, as being unnecessary, many of the appointments` being Sinecures. He moved a re duction of 10.,C110/. Lord PALMERSTON said, that the subject had been so much diseitseed as to leavessanthing to 'be said on duke) , aide with which the House was unacquainted. These offices were not sinecures, and they were given to old officers who had 'per formed the greatest services to the country. These places which had no garrisons , of soldiers required persons to take care of the buildings. Mra DAVIES said, that it vrOuld be better to given pensions at once to Officers Who had detierved them, than, to keep up sinecures for such an object. Sir A. HOPE contended that it was only a justice to old General Officers, that these military Governments should be kept up. The amendment was withdrawn, and the original resolution agreed to, as were several other resolutio ns. NATIONAL DEBT EDUCTIO N BI"' The above Bill was road a second time, and ordered to be committed to•morow. ASSESSED TAXES REDUCTION BILL. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved that the House should go into Committee upon the Assessed Tax Reduction NIL Air. CURWEN rose, 'according to the notice he had given, to move an instruction to the Committee to take off the whole of the House Window Tax from houses under 111. a year. Tide tax pressed upon one-seventh of the population, and only pro duced 01,000/. flit trusted that in 'orifice to this class, the House would see the propriety of censurring with him. When the higher classes were relieved to the extent of one and.a half per cent., it was most unfair that this r el ief should be withheld. He eoncluded.by moving the inetruedon aecordingly. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCH EQUER was obliged, hoivewr painful to his feelings, to oppose this motion. He thought, however, that the Hon. Gentleman had greatly exag= gerafed the hardship of this tax.. The fact was, that the law provided a relief for those who were unable to pay it. If a poor ttnwentliefor sm Magistratese. a nd:swore that he was not able to pay it, he was exempted. The numb er of houses that comparatively ll paid was se u s t sedof f w or h a ic l l e t Thiess were in England about 1,100,000, o t o a n x ly thTriemesotrhefoure was rhun n d o re pa d thousand pressuresandereasor. hardship on this tax, and upon the ground of' justice which the Honourable 'Member liad advanced, he must therefore oppose the 'notion. While he was addressing the Hom o per. haps it would be better to explain two alterations Le intended to make in the Bill. As he had not prepared them now, he should introduce two clauses after the third reading. The first related to Cottages in Scotland. As the law stood, they were in to somewhat different situation from the cottages in this country. Na . there were no parish rites irtScotland, they had no means of escaping the tax by receiving such aid, and were compelled to gO before the Minister for that purpose. His in tention was, to put them In an equal situation, as nearly as he could, with the same class in England. For that purpose, he should submit that a family of t4rea children should form an exemption. Another -point where he proposed to make altera tion was, upon persons employed as warehousemen and shop boys. They were at present exempt under the age of four teen, and he meant to extend the time to the age of 18. Mr. Alderman W 001) said that much good had been done by the removal of the tat upon occasional gardeners; but that there was another class of men, who stood nearly in the same iaituation, and were -at the present Moment in great distress for }want of employment. He alluded to men used as warehouse men and porters. The numbers of surcharges were so great, "and the vexations AO harnimsing, , that these people were all thrown out of employment. He hoped the Right Honourable Gentleman would take this into consideration, and relieve the parties. Mr. BRIGHT agreed with 'the Hon. Member for Cumber land, that it was only just to relieve the poor man .as much as possible, when taxes were to.he taken off. If the window tax were thus taken' off;. thire would be ait increased number of windows, and consequently an increased quantity of glass used. The tax on glass would therefore rise, though he did not mean to say in proportion t 6 the loss. Ile should prefer .seeing the tax reduced upon leather and candles than upon carriages and horses. called the attention of the Right Hon. Gentleman to the advantage which would be given to the manufacturer by taking- off the taxes upon the raw material, and nut those which were laid on when articles were made. .The House then divided— • For the Amendment - Against it - - - - - 87 Majority • • - —43 . On our re-admission into the Gallery., ~we found the House. in a Committee on the Assessed Taxes Repeal Bill; and The CHANCELLOR - of the EX('Hl•.QUER`explaining' some alterations which he proposed in. the part relating► to composition' for the Assessed Taxes, and .also with regard to the Fax on Warehousemen. _ _ Mr..CURWEN 'complained of that part of the alteration which went to exempt the Scottish peasantry from the tax, they, having, in his opinion, infinitely less' claim than the English. A conversation between' Mr. Ilume, Sir F. Ommanney, and Mr. Price ensued ; after which, • Mr. WETHERELL rose to complain of a hardship to which the Members of the Universities were.subjected in the matter of their horses. If there were ten Fellows who had a horse a piece, all of them, as was not unusual, attended by one groom, then that groom was, by the productive powers of the Act, Multi plied into ten grooms—a process which was just as reasonable as though in one of the establishments where there were 100 who ate and drank, they Should be taxed for 100 cooks and 100 butlers. This tax, too, fell most heavily upon those Whir were the least able to bear it. If a Curate, residing within the Col. lege kept a horse, then he had fo,pay the tax, whereas the Un der Graduates, who kept the horses without the College, ware exempted. • The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER raid, be hoped he would not be accused of s Want of politeness to the two Universities, if he resisted the suggestion made by the (iOn. and Learned Gentleman. lie had heard pf a college cook and a College butler, but he had never heard of a University groom.—(A laugh.)—lle sea , no reason why Gentlemen wh . o wished to amuse themselves by keeping, horses, should be ex emitted from this tax any more than the rest of his Majesty's subjects. Mr. CURWEN wished to know whether the Chancellor of the Exchequer had any objection to place. English cottager' on the same footing as Scotch Cottagers, that was, to exempt those who had three children froM the operation of the tax ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he had no objection to acceed to the wish of . the Hon. Member, but he feFed the measure would not be productive of all the benefit anticipated if him (Mr. Cur wen.) • Mr. CURWEN thanked the Right Hon. Gentleman for gip. ing way, :Lod begged to assure hint that. it would afford great relief to a large portion °film ponrer classes. The House then resumed, and the Report was ordered to be received to-morrow, The other Orden of the Day were disposed of, and the House adjourned at HALF PAST Et.Evr ti. _ _ THE DISTRESSED GREEKS. The follouing letter is from a family of Greek 'agitives from Scio, and is one instance among thousands, of the 'effect of , the Turkish atrocities in that island. It is for, objects of this nature that the subscription instituted by the benevolent Society of Friends has been principally set on foot TII . IFB TE, DEC. 26. " DEAR BuoTtan,—After having visited several of the' lonian islands, where nobody . would receive us, we are at last at Trieste, where we have been about a Month, thanks to the obliging care and compassion which we received from the cap tain of the ship in which we sailed. After having escaped from the knife of the executioner, we find ourselves on the point of dying, for want, perhaps, of the means of existence. We have, alai ! no one to recommend ourselves to; and although we are unwilling to wt,und put feelings, knowing your sensibility, by informing you of our situation, particularly its you have been at the expense of the Gyninese of Seio to prosecute your studies in France, and that you may find yourself in the same unfortunate situation with ourselves; yet we have recourse to your brotherly love, and beg you to join yourself to your unfor tunate' sister, and to try to send ,us some relief. Out !of the numerous family of Gennades, our•neighbours, the mother only has been , saved, six of her children are slaves.—Alexandre, Marie, Angelique, George, Lucy, and Nicolas. Stephen is happily here with his mothers ,he desires me to say, that if you know of any one who will buy his brothers and sisters, he will feel himself bound to repay the amount. , " LOL/bA. EItkINA, & NICOLAS FOURMAItiAIKY." THE WEATHER. Extract from a Meteorological Journal for February, 1923, kept at the Observatory of the Academy (Dr. BURNRY's) Oosport, Hama :-- " This month has been very wet and windy, it having rained more or less on 23 days. Here the thermometer .on ly sank twice below the freezing point in the early part of the month, with much rain, while the weather in North Britain was more severe in snow storms than it had been rcmemberd since the year 1795. We have had nine slight frosty nights, and snow on live different days : what fell on the 6th instant was two inches. in depth, whicl4 by an jimmied tempera. lure, was nearly all dissolved in the night. The various pre dictions of a rigid winter, have, been verified •by the e. vere snow storms, end the long frosts, which have destroyed a great part a the ground insects; so hurtful to vegitatton. " The mean temperature of the air, however, is six.degrees and a half higher than that. of the pre-ceding month ; and the mean of spring water half a degree higher.: . • " The barometer this month has met with many sudden de. vat one and depressions before and afrr the descent of snow; and the aggregate of the spaces described by the fillet uationi of the mercury, .t, unusually great. The turbid coloured chiuds too haie generally hung very low, and frequently swept the ground, there having beer: but little sunshine to raise the vapour , plane. • ' " The atmospheric - and meteoric phrpronnesa that have come within our observation this month, are one anthelion, one par. helion, 2 solar and 0 lunar halos, 2 serni.selar halos. the larger 90 degrees in diameter, 2 nieteors I rainbow, and 1 lunar ins at 7 P.M. on the 25th ; distant thunder in the morning of the 22d ; and fi gales of wind, or days on which they have pre. veiled, namely 2 from (tone S.W., and 1 from the South. " The stazinturn temperature of the air has occurred once ill the night. Summary of the lfreather.—A clear aky, I ' • fine, with vs. rious modifications of clouds ' 10 ; an overcast eky without rain, 5 ; foggy, 2 ; raitt, hail, and snow, 11 ;—Total, 28 days. " C/Onds.—Cirrus, 18 ; Cirrocumulus, 12 ; Cirrostratus, 2 l; Stratus, 9 ; Cumulus, 13 ; Cumulostratu ,s 1$ ; Nimbus, 23. " A Scale of the prerafting lirtuds. —N. 3 ; 4 ; E. ; S.E. 0; S. 2; S.W. 7 ; W. 4; N.W. C; Total, 28 days. • COCKNEY POETS.—npenser was horn in. East Smithfield, Pope in Lombard-street, Gray in Cornhill, Milton in Bread-street, Cowley in Chancery : lane. REST DErtcr... 1' EMINENT MEN.—During his last years, Milton lived in Artillery-place, Bunhill-fields; Ben ,fonson lived in Bartholomew- 4 1m ; Butler, in Rose- street, Covent-garden ; Dryden, in . Gerrard-street ; Newton, in St. Martin's-lane T Steele, in Bury-street ; Addison, in Holland house, Kensington, now the resident* of, the accomplished Nobleman who takes his title from it. PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINO 110CSE or-commoms. Lnnce, 10" (lie if artii, 1823. RaltwAy--Stockton and Darlington' Bills read a second time, CANAL—Trent and Mersey .1 and ccitimitted. IlarltOrEMENTS—Portrnan.squarc—Bill reported , to be, i° ," 80...in--Stroud anti Risley, and St.ockbrige--Bills read A Se: cond time, and committed. Wigown,'ltdrik, limb ana Birstall, and Skipton and Colne--LRills read a grossed. Ilalifax—Bill read a second time, anti conitnatta. Haworth and keighley, Watlsley and Langset, and ItugbY —Bills ordered. - - ' Po ttcE—Greenwicli—PetLion for leave to *present a Petition first time. Bill reported fora Bill referred to a Codunittee. t to-be ingrossed. G4s LiouTs--Bristol—Bill read a first- time. Plyniouth-- llsatuo u a—llfordzembe —Petitions of .1i erehants and (4 0, and of Inhabitants of Ilf.)rticombe ; aping-' a fast PRISONS ' Bill,: read INc LogurtE—Warden (Northumberland) i tiine` to ek l COAL DUTlES—Petitions from Greenwe h, ' and TSViS against ; and from Ayr, fora repeal of the Duty on Coals iln ported into Ireland. 11E1:it—Petition from liungerfad, complaining of the system of licensing Public.hous..:s. - ELECTlON—Artiiadel.Borottzh---Petition :of JoAeli.h Wilt° Parkins and others, complaining of ; to b , .: tako into cow deration ipon Thurs . , April . • 9 CNERAL c TURNPIKE day ACT—Petitiou of. t ..',',ltli and 00 1 , piers of Land in Taunton , against ; to 11, ~:a the table, Po • to be printed. 3 ,HOUSE AND WIN - Dow TAK—Petition of Cliorehonilt and Select Vestry of Liver IA) f.- i r epeal t heteuf; w IA) , o. t ie ASSESSED' AXES R CPI:AL on the table. ..d . Of SCOTTISIL Bustutts—Petition of the Guitary Incorporst Perth, res . pecting the ,Nlutlicipal Government Thererf. . _, and passed. 1 on wattsuousixo Blt.t.—" to Make more efrectun sa, for permitting Goods imported to be secured ilf Wqv n t 9 ' eflu i or other places, without naymant of duty of ( h e r sew thereof,' Presented, read a first . time, to he r' l "' 6 time on Monday, and to be. printed. (itelar4)—Bill read a third time, • NOTICE OF MOTION far TIIIS DO..couti it Mr. Hume—Account of Land Ts% untedem!".l-.6 relative to the Post-Office (Dublin). GIRDERS of the DAY for TIIIS DAY. 1. Lime Exemption•from Toll ]3ill—Commi ttee. 2. National Debt Reduction Bill—Cutotulttae. 3. Assessed Taxes Reduction Bill —Report . 4. Yeotnaniv Corps (Ireland) Bill_ Report' 5. Arms (lieland). Bill—Third Reading. • • ' 6. Marine Mutiny 13D1--Second Reading. NOTICES GIVEN YESTERDAY' li r daesday, Mar* o 12. 41 tizrt 1. Mr. Iltiskisson-13111 to regulate tho number f ArPr . to be taken on board British Merchant N'essel4 o . 2. Mr. Twiss—Bill for. regulating the appointruer,t ours at Elections. • lifonclvy , March 17. , ant Mr. Robert Ward -Ordnance Es t imates- (in - of Supply). Deferred from Mareli Tuesdato Rfarcit 1;3. . of 1156 1. Mr. Jones._ Bill to amenil'and correct the profor w:a fro Courts of Great Sessions in W a les. .Dc March 10. t ij , ra tion ° 2. Lord Archibald Hamilton—To take in t° cd. state of the County Representation in Sc..)tlan Resolutions.) Deferred from Minh 11. • Tilesduil ifFril 22. prier 1 . 5 Mr..kennedy—Bill to alter and re ulate the , g . kotia nd which Juries are chosen on Criminal Tr' in 0401 TneWay, April 29. „ Ai' 3lr. Abercromby—Motion relating to " .1 ' Borthwick. AIOSD AI ' BILLS—StEomr, Rr.antivos 1. Cherry Burton Intlthure 3. Ilayling B rius* 2. Shadsveil Clutreit woof odd ".• Fur the PAnts PAPERS of the Bth Instant , - , Page. 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