The Sun. — London, England, 1846-03-19 00:00:00

Ite l , vw hel c i no Tild do what. _..7.1-his ee inion e they ought to do, they. e,t`,_tilltlit nec.ssery to make the'e, demands on the , terTher. A.i.out four or five millions per annum 'ttee e ',. 1 ,e 41 !rein Ireland by absentees living iu England lee ry, eet itiuent, and if these people rezieed in their own Ike „ I f I :as his belief that there would not Done - be no 11 , let s ij dr ,''' ti ''ll , but that the people would get better ..' eiee, ~. uovernittent teVy a tax int the ale,enteee, and Per ,"eep their grams in their pockets. .A. tax of 4 1; 4 " " four millions woidd give 400,000/ , which 141ket'Pi'l ► 1 -0 the relief and benefit of Ireland. ti r e , i .. e . l ta'olnary for him (Mr. S. O'Brien) to suggest eehe.Loprovetnent to her Majesty's Ministers, yet he ea ,:tts'ion in saying that the principle of loam:, if ill aothaott .) A l u would he productive of great advantage.—(Hear, tee e 11 " 1 1. Alenaber had spoken of toe employment 1 tat Y railway projects ; but he (Mr. O'Brien) that' the stagnation iu the money at th e causes, there was a general indis- Presetit moment to pay up the shares, t2,ll:equently the projects were rather in a 1 110 e osiou than otherwise Now he wished to ask, tie e , a nY reason 'lrby Government should not interpose l e 9r- the works, they being secured in the advances klarl Y e l '; r their 1 completion ?—( Hear, hear.) As regarded 'e e i ( l . 4 ; • aeced to I re l an d, h e s h ou ld sa y th e y w e r e so t :Yea fe e . ? • t Lite B r iti s h Exch e quer having profited , 'a : e . `a, heat')—fir Engl old first borrowed the money tele, ( e*it , atal then lent it to Ireland at five per cent. 'e t r spect to It •-' •• l'cal taxes, the Honourable t e . e.e 3 ine ... W pe.rotid wee fur levedeg rates for the support of til 't , t;!t ' t (, :iir• S. O'Brien) did not object to a rate, but h ok i i , that sine I farmers ought to be exempted,avliiie wit d i l li ,g aheeities front haul should be reedered liable. e, dI 7S of fercieg hie advice on the Government, ei e w e lelt Ito hesita:ion in doing so. He had done so l e L e ,-,oereion Bill, and it "as under diecussion for , I tit ' ij i ths • — (l.aughter.) Ile now wished them to give Ilreheottsitleration or this teeaeure, until the opinions ! 1 / 4 44,:temb,rs anti those interested in that country e uit ee ied Up on L . li' All All said, that the Lill would extend itself 4, .e ) 1, , • ' WAk '' '' ,l l kV te evere part of tile United Kingdom. Ale i LEY said, he felt gr deful to the Member for tr a: 4 ,l 4 ilig infr .duced tt e measure in its extended . ;!, 11, ele r toee , tered it a verydtsgraceful thing that ' ' ''''ili,e."' e very uitiereut s :steins . f poer-liws prevail tle ~ " I t Parts of he kiegdoin. He could see no reason thirl ef Ireland were trot entitled : o as good a pour- eelia ' Pe e Tle of Eneland edee. In Ireeind the desu , ' a" WAA .7i,rt ing, wkis not entitled to relict; ,t4o!_.t,,,eite to Etigleed he reeeived relief. k v/311i:Ilt haen—lle is entitled to beg. ~hiaO h L EY— . .t.eiet a eplendid privilege is conferred ''lle e '' n wilyn.it make it., crime. as it ie made in log thel,44" w tly nu give rehe ft o tho,e who are destitute ? L ti l e ,,Ve et shin - he wished to know if the Enelish a `ww ‘- re , ltei as h g e s, ,u .ht to i.? {t.e present ;due of NE,-',4 r obbery i n the English landlord, and a robbery le; 'ttl , l labourer. Mai.). th.ateands . of Irish labourers ' Se ln -1.4 Warne them) came into this country at the e x , •elt of the harvest and tbtained werk. They re )reelt two, months, U:1(.1 teen returned to Ireland with e kit 4 . 3 of their industry in tto:ir pickets. We-. gli e , 9ll , tee English labourer, whothe time '., ,!'l thet hi; wages would be raised by an l ite""taed for l' bmr h mid met these men came into ' !ttx : ti tte ti -A s l t Z i th a l p fina ,or a n d t w u n n ' s d ' old him? They s hould have e v, r • s ould coml. el the guardians to tle rk " these 'nen just on the same principle ite it nett}, ' 'wintry untie; toe Act of Elizabeth. Tile Hon. 4 1 1. 4 Stroud had asked for nothing more than the 'a elf `jas ding " at that moment. He raid call the Wear Ile lien Gentleman to the following return : at Ige., • *e t , eo, since the poor-law had been in peration, 41 tor, e i _lieved in England, in the wurktiouee ,, , 30,351, 'lent the worklieuees, 268,367. The Hun. Gentleman te e l "to an elaborate calculation to show that the , Yt eli Pa. sons relieved without the workhouses between " 1 ( l e 7 and 1844 vastly exceeded the number relieved 11,7 8 , awl increased in each year. - Now, did the -. ( it i t Gentl eman di sapprove o f t h e prac ti ce or other ,kee e ar, heir.) The effect, as every person knew, of .'' e l aB l l ,. relief s y s t em w a s moat beneficial to the. Rei t ca• It was a mest merciful system for the ,Ye,les, and was w' rking for their good, and conse "id e ,'"e good of the community. Now if the system ..''ie e 'Y should the Government not alter it ?—(Heat.) .ilea co made to an absentee - tax, but what ,''k e t e ui could be so good as a,poor-tax, to be equally leee 4 ver the country? Now the English were called ,P 1 :0 e rl , ll duty which really belonged solely to the e . ;7 l) fi r ee i -- ` l , lr s• . 11e:urns before the House showed that 4 for millions of the peo o le in that country were ll ien l} , e 4 which they were competed to live. Were Irish ' te -4i stied with this state of things? Were they l ei wet their countrymen should exist upon what Dr. the b el l stated was the least nutritious article of food.. ? Protectionists of Ireland satisfied with this state of e l kee ee (Mr. Wakley) knew they were not. But they . i'llut altered to improve this state - of things. If the klle a 'tered how, when will it be altered ? He hoped i 44 h ear the views of the Noble Lord. What were 5it1141 t he poor-law in Ireland? He considered the tat s ;''''r as most repugnant to the feelings of humanity. i t i tate, n wi tsarlds ited even millions in Ireland who were - *il l ." Re knew that the workhouses were not full, ' ai 1 11 .0.) ii Well t o s t arve ou t of the house as within it.— ' l ntim. e would sav it was, for what was the dietary ?—_ ''aten,'"o4 cloth es i t was on ly 2 s . a week. In many of t i that es for necessaries, provisions, and, clothing he 'tee ny - a- 5 (-1- wile the highest allowance, and then there ee „allt;; " ( L eek left '',ircliithing. If a man brokethe law in -,', 6 4. - e l -4 got bread- and butter and coffee, to the ex 'ere'vided-4,cler the criminal law a person in tide station leo ill 8 , 'C' the extent of :3s. 6d. and 4s. 6d. a weak. t'' es "'oft tee criminal asylums each individual ' e s ()f el e . 9e. ed. a eeek, while in ' lreland the whole t, ' ~- Pereon in the workhouse was Is. 9d, and k e *le n 4 'es only is. 40. There never was a i aq. the landlorde in Ireland were so called Go. rite to a more liberal poor-law than that which k i it4 (l 11 4 qf • Ile would cite the authority of Dr. Corrigan, eee ee „ the higheet authority in his prefesd , n, and physician 0 4 1rwick Fever llospital and of several other of the 'fiS e„ e 'heal iostilutio.is of the country Thet gen ell e - ', givee his kilo viedge of what had occurred li t 'k t o "unfired years, but he would in tl ie instance i• - ?,tat t t ,t.;e testimony afforded by the time since ae o n -• .'U that time it had been suggested that e,'_ e!t e '"'Ploe meat ought to be provided for the poor, but N4 e ''tio , ls"had been ridicule. i„ But mark the sudden w il k, Wil ,iell had been occasiened by facts. Why the r t . ,'" had been predicted did oceur in a much more et thatt had been anticipated. The death of some ~tier l` 'te created alarm, and immediately the strtkinges Like ee ,.' s were adapted. The town was literally bloc aded, A. - ‘ , 14 ) " . Were deprived of work. (eil ehi `NHAll was understood to say that he haffread t ,wiiet. referred to. :le " , l la , e 4 ' I 'EY said that he was sorry that he could see e ke. I that reading in the measures of the Right Hon. ' 1 11 l 4 Proer easure wre not at once clis 't. deatl t.. T e I wo p uld m spread s s e wide as they haddone be- V , t e . e : author said, with reference to the evil at the t,,,k t ee ' an epidemic fever, the very worst evil that could tiro l a l l t,"Y nxt to civil war. Hit attacked one merm \T tr i lY teattacked all, leaving no one to struggle \ it et o l e common calamity. In Dublin alone in the Sq , t i ne Year, in spite of all the efforts of wealth and Z,, three '-hsease spread so much that 42,000 persons i 7, s trie - t tt gh the fever hospitals. • All these evils t ' '‘f . ! t ti la -e e '. in , almost every case to want of food. , t , i !po rt ~,.i .s ant .of a properquantity ,of food. I t t e t tle i l 7" ., 1 11 lie held in . hand,his . drawn up by Dr. Yi i etre e r r i erence to the e cof 1826, it was stated epidemic appointed in Dublin, whose S, lke a Olt to se le e a t i li b at b a ad t n b u e i e sa n n a ces were removed, that the e Isate -le e poor should be whitewashed, and otherwise t tlb,, 'rkt nh 'ionev had been expended in that way, bu 'se'e e tkl: - e ,“ Was expended in relieving the starving poor. tN ' s ee Cas the ase with the present Bill; and In his i. .% `,ke'di e atie • c ' htion it would be better to pre- I tt '''' -6( ' 4s e inananl e spread el of the disease, by giving k t q tilmie People.—( suit i the Hear. hear.) The same report e ll l o l 4 l , t e Pqato l es e. fi firmed the staple article of rood with il .. t'te ''' )ls , l e, and though the exportation was immense. l 'Z ti ally starving in the midst of plenty.—(llear.) itttease when the wages of tare labourer to the very lowest :V i e ' ge n a scarcity occurred there was no descent in 'le l tito,: l, 4 e _they must . necessarily starve. Now he . be- Ci f ks re , '3' word written in that pamphlet was strictly ve l te,e?i,Eheled Ireland. But witat ere ere they doing in 4(CO tabu :To prevent the spread of disease they were ~- k rt - , , r 1 certain unions where disease existed to build :N I ' s ; avf-eaies',wheremedicine. and medical attendance, and „VII h°"'h be given to the patients; but what were they V, 4 B... t i at ,nleas.ure with the view of preventing the origin r ile gee Nothing;. With regard to that not a single Vile oeen aim. He next - came .to the las It remained for others i e lle tie Wi rsiY 4b eed by Dr. Corrigan. 1 s. : ‘ , 4* - b el ans to provide the means of prevention—not by .:.'t.',;l„t of employment ;nt by )establish lazzarettos for t e , l 'e P e , ' - of the sick but by ing manufactures N - .,c ) iClileetneet of , the destitute. This was the true thqie till from that country ; but, unless e e, e '„ 4 4 1 ;1 ill the shape Of a law imperative on . the two ';tat „ '"e eon, it would not be done. His impression k‘hit . qh t ,'' the landlords in England were obliged to sup ee - '„' nr, so should the landlords in Ireland be. lie I Nkl: h e°oceiv e why it was that Irish gentlemen should 'tt • ,tltr e ct to see the poor. of their country in such a ; 1 1114e Mate o f destitution. Why, the English poor t '. /11.a.t'sltrably better off than the Irish poor. I \ l % le ,A.„ltri-vi - -No, no. -I( i t , t Y?'‘ 4 . l eEY—Then why did they come .over to this 4 , :: lr'e,.. 4 • 1 1IIII - -For r i te; '''''; LEY That argued that they were not able +r 4 11 4 k ti, ". et: home. He was very sure, that it ~,,'Otecl rc ts were compelled to support their own Nr ti 'W ." w "old tale.e care to find them plenty of .vork. krl ie l litio' with reference to the most efficient mode for the !'. "tee •: 1 of font in cases of epidemic disease. the plan S ei kli t ti „ St • Cathe r ine's parish, and which was applicable Se",,O . '• he considered the best. 'rickets were o' .4 5 f It tleh families as were considered to be fit e .4 ,, ll t:„e rel lef, anti 110 tickets were given unless at the Oe ' rke. ee t he a iplieeet and they gave a right -to relief for lithe, Pt . . e :, 1 4 da l e - . at tl ' ie end of which they were retiewea Oa tilt""tlt?--'eiarls and overseers thouebt tit. Tt.ese tickets 'k kinds. a g u r d atis—the latter ell . bowl of hot a _ l'i ' k Th e 11 °Itte to aid roll and ti:tll"lllietiefet.ffortnerr ave the saute right upon the ee, a pentiv, and it frequently happened e ,, % ttie;, e 44 1 - I ",'ltei held grails tickets one week were enabled to elitie b r ati () ; r s of paid at the end of the term. In his previous I,,,,':i',e'ex..,i,e wished to show that famine was the cause of V t ott, hbe holetslAileefotod 1,1111e4k1 thatr, which soon acquired a power of conta p,reventative to that epiclem n ic . and that, to prevent co e t 'al 1. 1 4 0% 1 ' 44 's to receive the sick should be erected 4 t l, t t •se r et r , l o - wi witich had tee' en received from tvretity-Heven ti keeere p ete that disease had been - caused by the failure t kte 'toe, ;. and that in manv instances the people had only A tt. Il lese .°e a few week., 'but the Government said that, 11 1 ithec provisions were expeaded, and they were deste- ‘ 4 4, 41 4 f t btY should have no relief; but when they became I : s o: t re r t e v " . • produced by want of food and ex h . aue u: , -I ' Ti - ' 41. 1V (iVinV fri) . hunger they would give thtm 11 1 ',1. 'I V" ---' --mof - ' t • htf 1 rature that t e , tee Ictur e wee one such a rig u . l e e ti 'e ti , e rt "ught to be 'eerie by the Gevernment .rod the ti t tla h mt i Prevent epidemic and disease amongst a ,ge '''R topulati, - In this measure he found i ll iska ile rie 4l the kind— it. was quite inadequate f ir 1$ ." wool ''eS intended. 'rhen the Government said t' r e , s l , le t . t ..lke the reponsibility . of providing food for Oin - 9 , 0r,' . ‘iiat country but lie said they ought to throw 1; 111 C1 1 4 th - L ibil , l i t Y ole . flee ' law, because t . he . y would dud it e... 4 was 'l l7 imagined. He denied the statement i4 '. ' 11 4 , i trel v promulgated in England, that the Irish were 4 N o te e h ci tt ' 4 l. t .; thee w e re ragged, and lived in mud holes, be l'ilite?Ate ",est labenir in London was performed bY Irish 6 tkPe' t %1-, 2 'o o o brieklayers were employed in London, 111 t,q t. ..-of 4 ji - ' 4l () , 'n he did . eloi believe theme were more than e l "' . WI it ',. rit ert• Tiles men reeeived eighteen shillings a tiles,4'4. '- I% , ,,,agricultUra . I lair s' ourer . e within twenty , I r e-eel" Leull--dti Buckingliamshir , thus instance -I,:ttim Nue I . more than Bs. or !as. a week, showing that . rorn th et 1 .1, 1 Alp, e severe toil which the Irishmen per tli twp, ' l "gb the waees of agricultural labourers 4t he t , 4 44 ree e il e v v trriles of London were not more u than one-half e i riliiii„ 44 by the I r i s h b r i c kl a yer, they were ncept , . 1 -..4 the Work,. and, therefore, gave. way to them. quite willing ?r , s one of the of the House• have been to eet his wishes• his willing - Lion but that not that day amending the 3 consider an ieant the Tele they discussed the motion of m had giv.e n ?ral condition be otherwise ions, inasmuch ties respecting for considering ain from CO made by the lad introduced ider considers' ly, when theY consideratio n. was not earlier circumstan ces estv's ie after, and tt at existed, we s th e month of L et Bills sho uld uld allow that Imperial pal; objects whit carefully hat this 01 0 ' nd to the 1 1014 der a missUP": d at present Pv_ exit ted un der ,osite four in,. • i in a state u be taken int ° removed to d ie t .arces, were,, some their s . , •, he consme. 0 third procie w .. ever hospitals I.; ie which ena ble , n, to hire n build nts. He ason to comPl el : unto give eve r .: 3ver, but witirT Luforni a tion fronter, 3g that fev f the supposed, , silty of it. - 4 1 ,, e existing l a it and therefor e :o introduce tn't omplained t h ,!, e xplaining which the fupci: 'e to be supPlleu, it occasion tusi i the public , el l to also gi ven • 0 0 represents tl ,, Ain, to rerlin':, tildings for feen attendance se,: ,ndition recto ire o u t hat Governinneo, td exportatio deLli the appreheu ided only t°,... 1/1 ,4 / 7es of prors renient. • kit dxplanauel the prohibite 0, ded that th e po e d, way imp r° , y 000 . lion of the ' t be provisions oo bee p uld not have th at nl second to 00 he expori'_ ets l ird to the g en t be desired that as • more rose .„ 00 e sum of "`,,,,,,011 ad to • erY uld be aPP inner , to s ti tl itirt inclined to estien of tberotest e would he , 1000 might e t o pt mo ,t d iests t was exi le 4'o o le principle_ A ' t ot lad obeerv e " a poo !sponsibility &jog lien of m e s isi rather obo0(0, nds. Fi e A tte )iiity—but lie n ' . ous con sider/ 01 0i consisten t of ant ft adoption , !en e l a nadopte o •a ate for r a ce ess with re,7 o itii, to legislatu bo ily nd it Wa s dsilf tit - kelpie peel .hick bat , b tb, Queen Vig In E 1414"" a, ,here been felt ; •$ but that troifi y different B than ill v liC Roman eg,',,et' peculiar ell s ortance te tb i l lg a state of 00 umstances e t •s' ' the notn sll ,ote J r g y, who di//' he poor - - "N t vs invadaW c ps . . it, and gave t , oft that, in troof as true th,. 3 ort and wu u e ;10 n, perhaPs, , , o 5 4" i en t fun° , `, s d t ion of sue h te tbi' d poor - 10. 0 t tbe, he was 1t . g e e .: 00 ,1074 cause a d ec o r manent would h e to th e •• especiallY ; fa! the extr era „o ol l pauperisn! wee !, ?,rs of lan% the He rePee te he t ' Alt at it co. •De s —(Hear) den t. we re e00'14,,0t01 uted ht r ,,, 0 0: 4 1 P distress „,,e t th e ° bu t r f of a dol e '„ a atr , on o f the . 0 oe . i n order t v Ireatenedeee'ple.eo: t h at the r e yep' n t and th tial e ct iin tbe ffer infr, n• their e e t ferlfo of theirs ° o pen" , , the int r er ges )racy e Pl e itre' s ' A Ls in the (fie a te country • ere' o t House At „ht it e,,titi ° m uch deli et et woo t o h ni e ra ii i ' t ) t n e . et r ttiti l the ei!! ) . ,, jot° epidetot' fit u._ id be us b tt cus s .„ been cli s ci i s co"o l , )p ed to he sbe„),l w sl l Pol anythin,e pi they : 0 1fe5 tendon 0 d tot 11 agr' e e pi s ta nit the pot. e o o f th e 01 0 . COI O6 IIIO I t rernme ° !:otirce bill °l e' fer el r Ind, b Y rY ref' ns of eversoollos f for P e r o o , the w ,, a leg e ,, rl r l, id cou'„ - 0 0 7 deenl "a e rsi ji ho lionerstd" by t he tea P s '„ wer e fi llo W " .hery tii. ‘.4 O' „ )Iwh i ‘ tbe"bt rse. Veld oldhe ve Ivo r r o. d' on o t r his I i t e T y out, „ b$ fps Le ]fill or -la w gi:0"-Poof troda ee lai" e • a ect• n cool' t an} g res me al to int " fresh ; g ate te, v ‘ b :t 0 0 ,1i 3 differe - tl t. ofle lre tar elth nt OT ese 0 0 B _ l e rof I A re fr° ° , tr incr eagei t 'o ll l ,rrs rg ett o e Je f was gal oil' • tw for the living t tiro t d , r b e ° es ha ba i t and a nd vi e „,,ber P o f the fe e a clutY tb` vas to „10 ~ potve res ' ylO , . _ n y ""s it 0 nary ses, fro %P en r ids f it° fe iort conoe essi°P. 000 ,s ,o e ns iderti fe wi t a i g ht sid ed. 1 1 1' tit blio be ee be , the t f e e, 4 .4 There " o to c r for i3ol ,,r o vorke $ rld Fj o hert e TheYl3rie' t4 • ,fr.s • Ni fo ler° too o 0 50 , 4 0 • e 0 xitY.: l (lo °X.l ' arid' THE SUN. LONDON, THURSDAY MORNING, MARCH 19, 1846. „This showed them—and-the fact_avaa.confirmed hylis inter course kith these classes—that the 'Mali people were both eady and anxious to perform any labour which they could obtain. lie wanted to give this empleyment ; and he was satisfied, if the amendment of the lion. Member for Stroud was carry d, that it would give an impulse to the carrying out of public works—works from the want of which Ireland was now suffering—and consequently employment to the Irish poor, who would thereby be enabled to provide food' for themselves and their families, and enjoy some of the bless ings of civilised existence. Millions of the Irish people never tasted a mouthful of bread, and are compelled to subsist on potatoes alone.. Now this was disgraceful to a civilised country ; and whilst ether classes were advancing in civilisation—when luxuries were added to ther store almost daily—when their whole condition had so much improved, and was still improving, the labouring population of It eland were in as bad, if. not in a worse condition, than they were a hundred years ago. He said it was disgraceful to the Governments which had from time to time been entrusted with the affairs- of this country (with the excep tion of the presee.t Government) to have neglected the adop tion of measures which would have put an end to the misery under which the poor of Ireland laboured, and which would have improved their moral and physical condition. Mr. SHAW was extremely anxious to throw no impedi ment in the way of the Government with respect to the mea sure before the Houso. He wished to assure the Hon. Mem b.a. who last addressed the House, that they wore not unwill- Ing to adopt a good poor-law, but that they did not consider his definition of a- good law correct. The nature of the .linglsh poor-law was to afford in-door, and not out-door re lief; and the establishment of the Irish poor-law, ten years ago, on the same principle, had been more successful than he anticipated, because by it the old abuses . were (air 'acted, and 260,000/. a year judiciously distributed amongst the Indigent poor of that country. If the amend ment of the. Honourable Member for Stroud (Mr. P. Scrope) were adopted, they would find some districts in Ireland in which' every fourth person would re quire the out-door relief which it proposed to give. • Under the rresent system, poor-law guardians would not refuge re lief to any indigent persons who applied to them. He entirely agreed with the Right Hon. Baronet that the importation of oars ought to be encouraged in the present emergency, but he also considered that they might buy them in the markets of Ireland under circumstances which wouki not give an en coura.nement to the owners to raise the price. In the union will which he was connected in Dublin, rice was fr,-quen , ly u.-ed during periods of scarcity. He would, however, reserve any further remarks on this sub ject until the Corn Bill was under discussion. The fever hospital.. would, in his opinion, be of great benefit to the poor of Ireland, because the labours of medical officers would be lightened, and those unions which had no medical officer would no doubt have one appointed to attend to those afflic ted *with di , ea.e. He was afraid, however, when the evil no longer existed that they would find it no easy matter to withdraw the support which they had extended to the poor in periods of scarcity and famine. He hoped the Government would be allowed to go into Committee on the Bill. _ . Mr. F. FFRENCH considered that the distress prevalent in Ireland might be greatly alleviated, if not entirely eradi cated. by the. construction of public works by .Government grants, by which great masses of the people would be. em ployed. However, he was opposed to the conduct of those works being placed in the hands of grand juries. Then if they were in the hands of contractors the peopla would net derive the benefit - which they were intended to give. Refound by the return. that under this Act it was proposed to give the Lord Lieutenant the power of appointing the board of health. They had had a good deal of experience as to the working of the board of health during the existence of the cholera. Application was made to them in some in stances where fever and cholera had commenced and no not;ce was taken of it, On one occasion au application was made from a district stating that fever and cholera existed, and an order or instruction was immediately sent down to the grand jury to levy a stun of more than 2001. Fhe grand jury denied the existence of any fever or cholera, and, after some trouble, an investigation was made, and it appeared that the money would have been applied to the erection of some religious establishment then in pregrese. He thought that it was necessary to have some medical ern eer who could repert whether measures were necessary in certain districts. Mr. OSBORNE said that he regretted that he felt it neces sary to give his vote against this measure. He did not mean to say that he actually oppoeed it, or wished to oppose it, but he thought that a measure of this description ought not be brought forward in the morning and with a thin house, but ought to be marked by some more substantive measure. The lion. Member for Finsbury had made one observation in the coarse of his speech referring to the fact that a number of Irish labourers came over here at the beginning of the harvest to seek work. It was well known that in Northamptonshire the harvest could not be got in but for the Irish labourers that went there; and he knew that in. one case fears were entertained that the produce of a large hop-ground could not be gathered, as very few Irish labourers had come into that part of the country. Ireland was also an agricul tural country, without manufacturers; and England was almost entirely a manufacturing country, and it was dis graceful to the Government to have ouch a capital of labour as there was in Ireland without finding employment for it.. He was painfully disappointed the other day at the cold water thrown upon his proposition for advances upon the railway undertakings in Ireland. The Limerick and Water ford Railway was at the present moment. at a stand-still, in consequence of the want of such assistance as that which he had suggested. The shareholders in that line had actually been ready to throw up their rights if they could have been protected from all responsibility, and it was the bounden duty of the Government to make those advances which were necessary for the promotion of those works and the employment of the people, and he could not resume his seat without at the same time urging upon the Ministry the necessity of making. these advances not as gifts, but as loans to the several com panies. Mr. M. MILNES thought that the Hon. Member who had just spoken had hit the nail on the head in stating that the great deficiency in Ireland arose from the want of resident landlords. If the gentlemen who were landholders in Ireland felt only the same for their estates in that country as they did for their property in England, they would not lay their heads on their pillows without making provision for the destitution which was so prevalent there. He was aware that there must be a limit -to the re lief afforded to the several inslivideals who were in distress, and that the heavy* mortgages on Irish estates to a great extent interfered with the ability of Irish landlords to render the assistance which their tenantry required. But he believed that this difficulty might be obviated by a Bill for making these mortgages less onerous than they were. At any rate, sure he was, that in the present emergency some additional means should be provided for saving the poorer classes in Ireland from the distress to which they were at present subject, for it had always been his convic tion, and it was so now, that every evil which was inflicted upon Ireland would recur with double force on this country. Col. RAWDON was of opinion that if ever there was a time fir action the present was that time. He merely rose to call attention to the very important returns that had been laid before the House, and he begged to suggest that the names of some of the largest landed proprietors in Ireland, in the districts where the disease prevailed, should be at tached to the returns, so that public opinion in England might be brought to bear on . them. He had heard with great gratifica , ion the sentiments of the Right Honourable Secretary for the Home Department ; they threw a new ray of hope on the people of Ireland, and he hoped the Right Hon. Gentleman would act on them— ( Hear, hear)—for, he should tell them, if they intended to legislate for Ireland fairly, they should do so in an Irish spirit.—(Elear, hear.) Sir W. SOMERVILLE would explain, in a few words,. his reasons for opposing the present measure. He felt cer tain, if they once recognised the principle of out-door relief in Ireland it would become permanent, and they never would be able to return to the present system. Now he wished to know if it was fair, without an accompanying law of settle ment and other necessary measures, to endeavour by a side wind to overturn the entire social system as it at present existed in - Ireland?—(Hear, bear.) Lord EBRINGTON said he could not support the present measure, though at the same time he felt bound to. say that, in his opinion, some power should be given to enable the guardians of unions to administer out-door relief to the sick and impotent, and he believed they much needed it. On a future occasion he would be prepared to call the attention of the Right lion. Secretary for the Home Department to the administration of the poor-law in England, and in particular to the system that prevailed in: one union in Devonshire, where the guardians lent out for hire the labour of the aisle bodied paupers in the house. Mr. El FZGERALD thought the powers given by the Irish Po'.r-law Bill sufficient for any emergency which might ari-e. The Right Honourable Baronet, in his speech of that night, had adverted to the difficulty he experienced from the absence of any colleague more immediately connected with Ireland. . That was, of itself, a grievance to that country. She had a right to be represented in the Cabinet ; but it was of a piece with the injustice which gave to her people so limited a number of representatives in that House. He thanked the Right Hon. Baronet for the manner in which he spoke of the Remo Catholic clergy, and he was glad to see that the Times, the Ministerial organ—(Laughter)—was assum ing a different tone towards Ireland. He could not help re ferring to the speech of the Hon. Member beside him, who spoke of Ireland maintaitsing leer own poor. He begged to remind the Honourable Member that the Exchequer of England drained the whole revenues of the Irish country. The speech which the Right Hon Baronet made gave him great hopes, but he feared that he would live to see them blasted. All he would wish was, that the Right Hon ourable Gentleman would act up to his profes sions. Let them act upon the suggestion of the Member for Limerick, and refer Irish questions to an Irish Committee; such a course would give confit:Once to the Irish people. Mr. J. O'CONNELL said that if the system of out-door relief were adopted in Ireland, it would amount to an abso lute confiscation of property. Mr. P. S. BUTLER considered that it would be very im politic to saddle the board of guardians e ith any more ex pense than that with which they had been already burdened as they were not able to pay many of the necessary ex peaces they had . already incurred- lie would have grew pleasure in supporting the project of her Majesty's Govern. meld. Mr. P. SCROPE said that he did not consider that he was to blame fur the discursive turn the question had as sumed. Many Hon.. Members who had spoken seemed to think that the discussion should take place at some time when the sulject could be more fully entered into. He should, therefore, under those circumstances, withdraw the motion. The motion was then withdrawn. Mr. FRENCH would wish to ask the Right Hon. Baronet what officers were to administer relief under the Bill ? Sir J. GRAHAM said that a Commis•arv-General should be appointed to each district, and all application should be made to him. He himself should be under the control of the Poor-law Commissiorisrs and Sir R. Kane. The House then went into Committee on the Bill. Clauses 1 and 2 were agreed to. Sir J. GRAHAM, ,reply to Sir W. Somerville, said that the erections for fever hospitals were only intended to be temporary, the cases ',being always very various in number, as many as 1,200 patients having at one time been under medical care, whereas at another there were, less than twenty. Captain OSBORNE had no objection to a special rate for those medical officers, but he thought . :that some provision ought to be made for their proper government. Mr. WAKLEY was glad to hear the observations which had fallen from the Hon. Member behind hirni,but he would have been more delighted if there had been a proposition for preventing fever. After a few words from Mr. S.CRAWFORD, Sir J. GRAHAM observed that the object of the Govern ment was to give relief and not money. Mr. SHAW believed that under this law every necessary was provided, and he thought it would be unwise to open the law wider, for it would be exceedingly difficult to draw the line between the cases which required medical relief, and those which were only in need of assistance for food and other necessaries. Mr. SHAW could assure Hon. Gentlemen opposite that the landlords of Ireland were not so negligent or remiss in t.li orduties to the destitute and afflicted as they would have ` it appear. Clause 3 was then put and agreed to, Sir S. - 0,11/11-IA.AI, in answer to an observation of Mr. Wakley's, said that the intention of the Bill was not to meet in itself all the - distresses which might arise in Ireland. Mr. P. SC ROPE asked whether, if the head.of a family were unable to work by reason of sickness, ani be were under that clause admitted to the workhouse; whether his family would be admitted also? Sir J. GRAHAM—Most decidedly. Clause 14 was then agreed to after some verbal amend ment. The remaining clauses were then agreed to. Sir J. GRAHAM s.aiu that he was most anxious that no delay should occur in passing this measure, and he there fore proposed to fix the ►hird reading of this Bill for to-mor row, when he hoped the Hon. Members for Stroud and Rochdale, if they had any objections to make, would be prepared to bring them forward. Mr. S. CRAWFORD said that he had no objection to such a course, as he would have a few words to say as to the sala ries of the medical officers. • Sir J. GRAHAM said that the lion. Member would there fore uza',e his observations on the third readin;;• to-morrow. The Out7Pensioners Services (Chelsea and Greenwich) Bill was then read a third time. The other - orders - of the day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at a Quarter to Six o'clock. PARLIAMENTARY BUSINES3. (From the Votes and Proceedings of the Ifouso of amanons.) . . _ TUESDAY, MARCH 17. The following Petitions for Railways were reported, and the Bills ordered to be brought in lsy the utidernarned lion. Members : Shrewsbury, Welverhampton, and South Staffordshiri(No. I)—Lord IngestreEUid Mr. E. Buller. Shrewsbury, woherliampton, and South Staffordshire (No. 2—Coal . brookdale Branch)—Lord lngestr.' and Air. E. Buller. St. Luton, and Dunstable—Mr. .Astell, Alr. Danisen, and Admiral Dundas. Banffshire—Earl of March and Mr. Duff. Cornwall —Sir C. Lemon, Mr. Praed, and Mr. C. Buller. STANDING ORDERS' COMMITTEE. The following resolutions were reported &um this Committee : I. That, in the case of the Cornwall Railway petitkei, the standing orders ought to be dispees,,d with: - That the parties be permitted . to proceed with their Bill, on inserting, in figures, on the cross sec tins of the roads deposited in the Private Bill-office, the rates of inclination of the present and altered roads. 2. That, in the case of the Alliance Gas petition, the standing orders ought to be dispensed with :—That the parties be permitted to proceed with their Bill, with the exception of the clauses giving power to the Company to sell or lease thei , undertaking. 3. That, in the case of the Wakefield Water Works petition, the standing orders ought to be dispensed with :—That the parties he per nutted to proceed with their Bill on depositing an amended declara tion In the Privateltill-office, stating the nature and amount of the all ids or surplus revenue, by, means of which the works are to he made. That the Committees on this and the two preceding Bills do exa mine, in the first place, how far such orders have been complied with, and do report the same to the HouSe on the report of the Bill. 4. That, in the case of the Shrewsbury and Hereford Railway petition, the standing orders ought not to he dispensed with. 5. That, in the setae of the Lancaster and Preston Junction Rail way petition for leave to preseet a petition for a B:11, the sessional order ought to be dispensed with :---That the parties be permitted to present a petition accordingly. That, in the case of the Berks and Hants (Hungerford Ex tension) Railway petition for leave to present :a petition for a Bill, the sessional order ought to:be dispensed with:—That the parties he permitted to present a petition for a Bill tor making a Railway from Hungerford to Westbury, and likewise a Railway from the Great Weste it Railway to, or near to, the Radstock Collieries. 7. That, in the case of the Direct London and Manchester Railway petition, the standing orders ought not to be dispensed with. S.. That in the case of the Edinburgh ani4 Glasgow and Dumber- Oashlre Junction Railway petition, the standing orders ought not to be dispensed with. First, second, third, fifth, and sixth resolutions agreed to.—Report to lie on the table. PARLIAMEN TARP DIVISIONS (From the Votes and Proceedings of the House of Commons.) TUESDAY. MARCH 17. CUSTOMS AND CORN IMPORTATION. • Motion made, and Question put, " That Spirits or strong Waters of all sorts, viz.:— Spirits, for every gallon of such Spirits or strong Waters of a. d. any strength not exceeding the strength of proof by Sykes's hydrometer, and so in proportion for any greater or less strength than the strength of proof, and for any greater or less quantity than a gallon, viz.:- ---- not being Spirits or strong Waters the produce of any British Possession in America, or any British Posses sion within the limits of the East India Company's Charter, and not being sweetened Spirits or Spirits mixed with any article, so that the degree. of strength thereof cannot be exactly ascertained by such h:, dro meter. the gallon stand part of the Resolution." The House divided : MAJORITY—AYES. 64. Acland, T. D. Fitzroy, Henry Peel, Jonathan Aldum, William 6oulburn Hoary Plumridge, Captain Tiaillie, H. .1 Graham, Sir James Price, Sir Robert Baine, Walter Harmer, Sir John Somers, J. P. Barclay, David Herbert, Sydney Tancred, H. W. Barnard, Edward G. Hope, G. W. Thesiger, Sir F. Blewitt, itegiriald Howard, C. W. G. Thoniely, T. Itotfield, Burial Howard, P. H. Tollemache, F. J. Bright, John Trelawny; J. S. Huniphery, Ald. Browne, W. Kelly, Sir Fitzroy Trench, Sir F. W. Butler, Colonel Kirk, Peter 'Purnell, Henry Cardwell, E. Langston J. H. Turner, Edmund Carnegie, Captain M'Geachy,i F. A. Villiers, Charles Clerk Sir G. Mahon, Viscount Warburton, H. Cochrane, A. Masterman, J. Wawn, J. T. COC' buns, Sir G. Mitchell, T. A. White, Samuel Corry, H. 3lostyn ' E, M. Wortley, J. S. Dickinson, F. IL Munn , , llit a. Yorke, 11. R. Douglas, Sir C. E. Neville, Ralph Du..e, Sir James O'Brien, J. TELLERS. Duncan. George Osborne, Ralph Tering, John Escott, Tilcitham Pcchell, Captain Cripps, W. /Swart, William Peel, Sir Robert . 15 0 MINORITY—NOES, 35. ALix, J. r. Floyer, John Miles, William Arbuthmott, Hugh Frewen, C. H. Newdegatc, C. N. Astell, William Fuller, A. E. Palmer, G. . Beuett, J. Goring, C. • Plumptre, J. P. Bennet, P. lialford, Sir IL Sheppard, T.— Bentinck, Lord G. Hinde, J. H. Sibthorp, Colonel Beresford, major Knight, F. W. Trollope, Sir J. Buck, L. W. Knightley, Sir C. Tyrrell, Sir J. T. Cayley, Edward S. Lawson, A. Worcester, Marquis Colvile, C. H. - Lennox, Lord H. Compton, H. C. Liddell, H. T. TELLERS. Disraeli, B. Mackenzie, T. Thompson, Alderman Finch, George March, Earl of Grauby, Marquis of Motion made, and Question put, " That Oxen and Lulls' stand part of the Resolution." The Rouse divitled - MAJORITY—AYES. 111. Adana, T. I). Eieutt, Illekham - Neville, Ralph Aldan", William Ewart, William O'Brien, J. Bathe, Walter Fitzroy, Henry Ord, 'William Bannerman, A Fleetwood, Sir P. Peel, sir Robert Barclay, David Forster, Matthew Peel, Jonathan Barnard, E. G. Gore, Robert Philips. G. R. Berkeley. Craven Goulburn, Henry Philpotts, John Berkeley, Captain Graham, Sir J. Plumridge, Captain Blewitt, R. J. Greene, Thomas Price, Sir R. Bottleld, Beriah Grosvenor, Lord R. Protheroe, Edward Bowles, Admiral Hamilton, Lord C. Russell. Lord John Bowring, Dr. Hamer, Sir J. Scrape, G. P. Bright, J ohn Hatton, Captain Seyraour, Lord Brotherton, Joseph Ilawvs, Benjamin Smith, Benjamin Browne, W. Heathcoat, John Somers, J..P. Bruges, W. H. L. Herbert, Sidney Stanstleld, W. R. Buller, Charles Hill, Lord Marcus Stritt, Edward Busfeild, William Hogg, J. W. Tancred, H.W. Cardwell, Edward Hope, G. W. Thesiger, Sir F. Carnegie, Captain Howard, P. H. Thornely, T. Chapman, B. James, Sir W. Trelawny, J. S. Clerk, Sir G. Jocelyn, Viscount Trench, Sir F. Cochrane, A. Kelly, Sir Fitzroy ' Turner, Edmund Cockburm, sir G• Kelly, James Villiers, Charles Corry, Henry Labouchere, Henry Villiers,-Vl3eount Cripps, William Langston, J. H. Warburton, Henry Dalrymple, Captain Loch, James Wawn, JT. Dashwood, G. H. Lockhart, A. E. White, Samuel Dermistoun, John 31`Geachy, F. A. - Williams, W. Dickinson, F. F. M`Neill, Duncan Wilshere, W. Douglas, Sir C. M`Taggart, Sir J. Wood, Colonel T. Duke, Sir J. Mahon Lord Wortley, J. S. Duncan, Lord 3tarshall, William 'Wyse, Thomas i tuilCal I, ureorge Martin, John Yorke, H. R. Duncombe, T. Martin, C. W. Duudas, Almiral Mitchell, T. A. . TELLERS. Ebrington, Lord Molesworth, Sir W. Young, John Elphinstone, H. Morison, General Baring, Henry MINORITY—NOES, 72. • Alike, J. P. Frewen, C. H. N'ew,legate, N. Arbuthnott, H. Fuller, A. E. Newport; Viscount Arkwright. 'J. Gardner, J. I). O'Brien, A. 5. BMilie, 11. J. Gordon, Hon. Capt. Palmer, G. Bell, Matthew Granby, Marquis of Plumptre, J. P. Benett, John Raiford, Sir Henry Rellesion, Colonel Bennett, Philip Halsey, T. P. Round, C. G. Bentinch, Lord G. Heathcete, Sir W. Round, John Benthick, Lord H. Henley, J. W. Scott, F. Berestord. Major Hildyard, T. B. Seynter, 11. K. Bort liwick, Peter Hinds, J. H. Shaw, F. Brooke, Lord Mope, Sir ..1. Sihthorp, Colonel Bruce, I' ' . L. C. Hope, Alexander Smyth, Sir IL Buck, Lewis W. Hudson, G. Stanley, E. cayley, E. S. Inglis, Sir R. Thompson, Aid. Colvile, C. It. Jollifte, Sir W. H. Tower, C. Compton, H. C. Knightley, Sir C. Tumor, C. Disraeli, B. Lawson, Andrew Tyrrell, Sir J. Douglas, Sir R. Lefroy, A. Walsh, Sir J. 11. Farnham, E. B. 1,144i:te11, Hon. H. T. Wodehouse, E. Filiner, Sir E. Mackeuzie, T. Worcester, Marquis Finch, George Manners, Lord C. Yorke, E. T. Floyer, John March, Earl of TICLLYRS. Forbes, William Maunsell, T. B. Miles, William Forman, T. S. Neeld, Joseph Trollops, Sir J. TOTAL LOSS OF THE BARQUE FRANCIS SPAIGIIT. TWENTY-ONE LIVES LOST. (From the Liverpool Standard.) The ship England's Queen arrived in the Mersey yester day afternoon, from 13 , ,mbay and the Cape of Good Hope, which latter port she left on the 19th of January. This is the latest arrival from the Cape, and to Captain Sheddings, the commander of the vessel, we are indebted for the Cape of Good Mope and Naval Shipping and .3.lefeantile Gazette of the 9th of January, conveying the following melancholy intelligence of the loss of the Prancis Spaigtst • Daring the night between Tuesday and Weiln.sday last it blew a violent gale from tie northward, and at six A.%. on Wednesday the squalls 'were very severe. At half-past eight the came mere to the westward in a hard squall, accornpauied with torrents of rain, when the barque Francis Spaight, of 366 tons, :from Manilla to London, was observed driving towards the strand, and an attempt was unfortu nately made to set the mainsail, which brought the vessel's broadside to the shoke; and in this position, with the main sail aback, she con,i ii tied to drive until she struck the ground near the Slave Lodge, about a mile from tbeviilage of Papen dorp, when, in consequence of being broadside to the beach, she rolled_ heavily, the sea occasionally breaking over her decks. . • A whale-boat and a surf-boat were sent from Cape Town; the whale -boat succeeded in getting alongside the barque, and a line was tlirowis over the vessel by the rocket appa ratus. The moment the boat touched the side, the crew of the barque, who appeared to have lost all presence of mind, rushed into her, when she was tilled and capsized, and 'sad to relate, the captain and fourteen men of the crewliere drowned, together with four men of the boat's crew, named Thomas Williams, William Taylor, John Jackson, and Charles Norton. A surf-boat and another beat were also sent from the North Wharf, by Messrs. T.,..and J. Sinclair; both boats capsized, and two men, named Dollie and Parks, were drowned. The following are the names of•the crew saved, viz., James Robertson, carpenter, and John 111'Leod, seaman. Captain Patterson and the following men were 3 drowned, viz. i—Thornas Haydon, mate; Magnus Smith, second mate; Henry !bate, steward ; David Evanei4Edward McDonald, George Hutchings, John Smith, of Leith, John Sinithi of Edinburgh, and William Widder, seamen'; Willianr Byrnes, colk ; John Mittin, Thomas Beddoe, William Hall, and Richard Parker, apprentices. The vessel is broken in midships and is a total wreck, and very little of the cargo will be saved uninjured. The manifest and mail have not yet been found, but s% far as it has been ascertained, the cargo consisted of sugat , ,; hemp,,tobacco, cigars. rattans, and sundry other articles. . Sir George Hastings, Viscount Strathalla 4 n and son, arrived in town on Monday afternoon, passengers by the General Steam Navigation Company's steam-ship Clarence, from Edinburgh. The eeff.hrated navigator Otto de Kotzibue, son of the dramatic writer, died at Revel on the 15th Ult., aged 58. lie had bi , A,n three times round the world, making several mportant discoveries; but in 1833 retired from service, and iived in his family circle at Kan, in-Eathonia. RAILWAY COM NurrEES. (YESTE4DAY.) 421ROUP IX. - This Committee met to-day at twclvo o'clock ; Lord Worsiey in the chair. Tae CuaramAN wished to know if the counsel had Made any ar rangement as to the Bills to be considered together in relation to the application of Mr. Talbot yesterday, respecting the consideration of the Caledonian (termini and branches) in conjunction with the otter three Bills. In answer to this, it was intimated that nothing (lather was clone in the matter, and that it was understood the Bill referred to would not be proceeded with. The Committee then resumed the turther consideration of the MD1N13111 7 ±.47r1 ANL': GILASCOW AIVEZ would be three ;tad a half mild. lie proposed to hate one train passing along this pact of the line cv:ry quarter of itu hour, bitt it must be remembered that the line.pasied over and ;not op the Croy don line. There would be tour lines between Union-street and the Croydon junction, and his estimate included . these- four. At preSent;:it was not arranged how the junction should 'be fmned. at New-crosS. The incline running dowa to New-cross would be 1 in 74. The junction would be approached in a curve and in a cut ting:' The depth of the cutting would be 12 feet, and the radius of the curve, which would he 100 yards long, was 10 chains. The junc tion would be formed on the east side of the line, which would in volve a break of the atmospheric pips, but the interval need not be more than a couple of yards. At this ponit , the South-Eastern, the Brighton, the Croydon, and the North lie!,t traffic would become united. The length of the Blackheath tunnel would be 1,900 yards, or a little more than a mile. The station would be at the eastern end of the tunnel, and another at the other end. The gnedent upon the main line was I in 132, nal un the Woolwich branch lin 106. The branch passed within 180 to 200 yards of the Woelwich duck-yard and about 20 feet above the level of the ground at the entrance of the dock-yard. The South Eastern line was hearer and upon a level, but it was no advantage, because the line would have to pass the bight-street on it level. Tl:e Committee adjourned at this point till twelve o'clock to morrow. GROUP XV This Committee met in the Viee•Chancellor of England's Court, at twelve o'clock ; present, Mr. O'Connell, Chairman ; • Sir It. Price, Captain Hatton, Mr. lliridley, and Mr. Macklin' SOUTII-MASTEN.N (TITIT3TLIDGE ViM , ':ZiS TO GS). This Bill Ns'as read and the clauses agreed to. LCLIMON 13ZUG41 IPON (LAST GEM-. STE.E.LD BRAINICTI)• SOUTII-MASTERT7 (CO3I3STOZ:iIa TO EAST GRIM-51'4AD), Mr. HILL, Counsel for the London and Brighten Company, said the branch whose ments he was to open betbre the Committee ran from East Grinstead towards the west, and came into the Brighton line at a place called Three Bridges ; and that being the point from which the Brighton line started to Horsham, there would be a straight line from Horsham to East Gtimstead. This branch was in competition witifaproposalto make a line which front East Grinstead would run nort::, and come into the South-Eastern Railway about one atiii a-halr miles from the Godstone station. The branch from the Brighton line would be 6 mites 6 furlongs long, and be con structed at a cost of 80,0001..; there were 310 tunnelling or engineering difficulties on the way. On the other baud, the - South-Eastern branch would haVe to cr , ss a deep valley a vLatuct, ;upported un 30 arches, each, arch I.:s ie g a span of 42 feet, and standing 76 feet - high, the piers at the other end descending 20 feet deepe:r. The gra dient on that line would be I in 66. It was to cost, - by their own estanate, 110,00 W. As to the Brighton branch, he was sure that the cen..exion from Esst Grinstead with Lewes, the county town, with Brighton and Newhaven, would be an obvious advantage. By the Brighton branch there was a straight line to Lewes ; whereas, proCeeding by the .South-Eastern Railway, he would have to go to Iteigate,'and from that to Ileasb.an, before be veuld start for the county town. It wto of gn at importance to . keep open the commu ideation from the west eastward, as the supplies of corn and other products came front the west. It was unopposed except by the South-Eastern CianPany. Mr. MILLER, for the Brighton Company, called witnesses to prove the traffic and the favourable feedng which prevailed in the district Mr. Rustriek, engineer of the Brighton Branch, said, the Three Bridges station was 29 1 4 miles d istant from London- bridge. East Gri n • stead stood high, but there were no engineering difficulties to °vet come. The worst graitent was 1 in 88, Mit all of them were for short dis tances. The total of cuttings would be 601,000 feet, and of embank ments 367,912 feet. The ceegineering work would cost 70,000/., and the cost of the land, he, believe& would be 9,500/. On the South -la],ast,etrireatbchrainng a clithdeistgraaliedie of 2 4 miles. Mr. veotil l lL . be 1 in 66. or SO feet per mils , m Mr. MILLER having called additional wimesses, be put in the aesents and dissents, and this closed the ease for the Brighton Company. Mr.ALExANDER, for the South-Eastern branch, proceeded to call witnesses. John Stunting, timber merchant, East Grinstead, was hi the habit of sending 6,900 tens of bark a year to the London tanners by land ' carriage. He received about 161. a load for it, but out of that the carriage cost him from 40s. to 60s. a load: By the Dover line from Godstone, when he got his timber there, the carriage cost him but Gs. 6d: per ton delivered. He sent about 1,400 loads of oak to London, and from 400 to 500 loads to Tunbridge a year. On that account he considered the South-Eastern branch would be a great advantage to hint and the landowners. The coals consumed hi East Grinstead were from 300 to 400 tons, and had to be brought by horse draught from London. As many as 500,000 hop poles NI, re sent to Maidstone and the neigh , : bourho , al. - The majority of the heavy goods were carried from East Grinstead towards Godstone. The traffic to Three. Bridges bore no comparison. He preferred sending by the .North-Ettqern, because the Brighton line battle) convenience_ for delivery of heavy goods, and also he thought he was at lesS expense by the one than the other, He believid that the carriage from East Grinstead to Godstone cost him about Gs., and he expected to save one-half of that if the South-Eastern branch were constructed. Mr. ALEXANDER proceeded to call other witnesses ; and Mr. Row, counsel for the proprietors of three miles - cn the South Eastern branch. and who are opposed to that branch, cross-examined .him. The Committee adjourned hearing further evidence, at four o'clock, till to-morrow. Previous to adjournment, the Chairman expressed his inclination to pass both lines. Sub• Committee No. 2 The Committee met to-day at half-past twelve o'clock; present, Sir J. Y. Buller (chairman), Mr. Bell, Mr. Walker, Mr. E. Yorke, and Mr. Bramstone. SURRACY IRON IL a ILIITAY. ----- The CHAIRMAN said, that In the ease of this Company the standing orders had be,n complied with. The Coonnittee were of opinion that the Bill was simply of the third class, and that the provision 36 of the Act did not apply to it. CHELMSFORD AND BURY. _ . The Committee proceeded to consider this Bill, which was opposed. The object of this Bill was to construct a line of railway from Chelmsford to Bury, in length about thirty miles ; engineer, Mr. Thompson; solicitors, Messrs. Chauntler and Westwood; Parlia mentary agents, Messrs. Webster and Co. The formal ploott were then taken, and from these it appeared that the subscription contract, which was three-fourths of the esti mate, was 820,0001. The first petition against the Bill c onsidcred was from lard owners along the line, making the usual general allegation that the stanillig orders had not oeen complied with in different instances. Mr. Webster appeared in support of the Bill, and Mr. Baker on the part of the petitioners. The first particular allegation was, that the plans deposited with the clerk of the peace for Essex did not contain certain lands lino houses en the line. Evidence having been heard in support of the allegation, the Com mittee decided that ix this case the standing orders had not been complied with. Two ether allegations to the same effect were sustained, and several others w ere adduced which the Committee found were not sustained. The next allegation was with respect to the increase of capital, and stated that there had been an infraction of the standing order. The Committee found that the allegation was not sustained. . - This terminated the ease for this petition. The next petition was, that the lands, &c., in the parish of Little Heuny were not described en the plans deposited with the clerk of the peace for the county et* Essex. Mr. Shrubsole aneared in support of the petition. The first allegation was, that Nos. 40 to 46 inclusive, and from 46 to 52 inclusive, as well as from 52 to 54, in the parish of Little Gently, were described as being in Great Remy. Evidence was heard in support of the alle.;ation, and the Com mittee found the same was sustained. • The next allegation was, that the owner of the field, No. I I, was not named in the b ok of reference, whicia was not sustained. Another allegation to the same etlict Niith reference to No. 27 was sustained. Some other similar allegathns were sustained, and several were abandoned. The Cammittee then adjourned till to-morrow. • Sub-Committee No. 3. The members of this Sub-committee sat at twelve o'clock ; Mr, Aglionby In the chair. The first line on the list was the waxing . H COUN UNT TIES (BERTrortia TO INGDON.) - - - - A good deal of discussion took place as to the order of procedure, in consequence of Mr. Yet abler, who appeared for the promoters, applying for a postponement of the proceeding, on the ground that as the real merits of the case were before the House of Lords in the case of the London and York, width had gone up there last session, and with which there was a competing line. Mr. COOTES. who appeared for the London and York, objected the postponement, and said that the line having been referred to the Committee by the House, the Committee must necessarily pruceed with it. Atter a great deal of discussion, The Custard...a decided that the case should go on. The ease was accordingly proceeded with, and after the Committee had investigated it, and Ulu usual evidence bad been adduced, the Committee decided that the standing orders had nut been emptied with. • BEB1 1 :1 - RD AND CAMBRIDGE EXTENSION, In this case several t,ents for petitioners against the llne appeared but the consideration of the allegations were postponed until the formal proof was adduced, which occupied the Committee the whole day. Sub-Committee No. 4 The Committee met at twelve precisely. Mi tubers present -Sir W. Ileatlicote (chairman), Mr. Shirley, Mr. Hope Johnstoue, and Mr. Acland. The Conunittee proceeded with the petition. agmizist the BIRICENBEAD, ZAIVCASHIILE, AND ZITATCTICOIC. two houses, r not inserted in the book of reference, although and their names were f It would be taken In making the line. The petition i n o r f s G pe e c o t r g , and o.e o t i lh w ar h l i e c s h li t ergyets.si received ved that no they no l i t i e e l e d , corner of a ' houses at the r: the next. 'the .two houses es f tt o ii r .tele, t ) l ti l i e ae ri p isd e h t o i to t n i e o t n iwi e , communicated; but had two doors, one in each street. A-notice had been served with respect to one house only. The CHAIRMAN observed. that this was equivalent to an objection that the petitioners had a house with, a dour in each of two streets, s tr l3 e ti e ra t . , P( Ol 'P e rP(e b )(c e l i kt n i g ;lap i ti ri etah o r fie dp and had rectived nu notice with resped to each door. The Committee rejected the allegation. The petition of Richard Yates, -of Mercer-street, Warrington, was again brought before the Committee. Mr. Pam, the agent for the Bill, argued that this petition did not state with sufficient clearneis where the properly was situated; a notice had been served often Richard Yates for a house in Mercer. street, and he was not *wale that there were two persons of the name of Yates in that street, or that Richard Yates had two houses. The promoters, el the Bill had no means of ascertaining what house the petition alluded to, but by going to every house in Mercer-street, kaockiug at the door, and asking whether Richard Yates lived there. The CHAIRMAN thought the objection conclusive. The petitioners could not pretend that there was a sufficient description of the property. ~llr. COPPOCI thought the promoters of the Bill ought to prove the service of two notices. The Committee, however, dismissal the petition. There was another petition, complaining that the petitioner had not been served with a notice in respect of a cottage and smithy in et court on the east skis of Bridges-street, Warrington. -Mr. Pam said that there were three courts leading out of the east side of Bridges-street, Warrington, and that this petition did not state in which court it was situated. He would not press the objection, however, as he found that the house was known to his clients, and that the petitioner had been served wilts a notice. The Cnaixestai said that he was very sorry to shut out a peti tioner on any point of form, as there might he a serious grievance, bat where there was so loose and insufficieut a description of the property, the petition must he rejected. There was no excuse fur the insufficiency of description, as the petitioners had every opportu nity of referring to the plans, and they could very well describe the property by the number given in the plan. _ l its I or inittee, therefore, refused to admit the petition. The petition of John Broadhurst, and others, met with no better fate, the description being equally insufficient. The petition of Mary Hine, Mary Ann Amany, and others. con tained several allegations as to the non-insertion of their names in the hook of reference, and non-serving of notices. It appeared that the property, on account of which the peti tioners represented that their names ought to have been in serted in the book of reference, was jointly Occupied by John ,many and two sisters, who were both married. Notices had been served on the husbands of the two female Petitioners, but none had been served on themselves, and their names had not teen inserted in the book of reference. it was ad mitted that a wrong name had been inserted in the twok of reference in respect of part of the property, but that notices had been served on ad parties concerted, the mistake having been discovered to time to serve notices on the proper parties. A witness was called to prove these facts. The Committee declared the standing orders not complied with. In respect of other property belonging to the same petitioners, the eCtoatititdimiiitg orders scideel not t: o te n t kp th ie c d le w et g h. of reference was incorrect, and the In another of the petitions against the Bill it was alleged that .‘ the railway was deseriiied as passing through five tickle in the parish of St. Mary on the Hill," whereas, tour of those fields were in the parish of St. Oswald's. Mr. Pater objected to the petition, as not stating what five fields were alluded to, or which were the four that were in the parish of St. Oswald's. Some discussion ensued as to the sufficiency of the description, but as it appeared that the numbers of the fields were given in one of the later allegations of the petition, Mr. Pritt withdrew his objection, and the petition was proceeded with. After considerable discussion, anti after saveral witnesses had been called on both sides, the Committee decided that, inasmuch as the fields in question ought to have been dose: abed as in the parish of St. Oswald's, the standing orders were not compiled with. The next allegation taken was, that a Mrs. Belton, described in the bock of reference as poFsessing premises numbered Nos. 206 and 207, was not at the time Ili.; notice was served the oc pa c y a i p n i g er n o o f .r t e h n e t premises (a mill) No. 207 , as sh e was marked on the plans and de scribed in the book of refere nce. Mrs. Bolton was called and examined, and from her evidence it M. Prlt, in favour of the appeared, that although s he had here, in conjunction with other p r e . miser, in the occupatio n of the mill marked No. 207, she had dis continued r g A ~ e , ra a great served upon al her, and in e that nt r r o she ln was r now t to hold the m i l l in q uestion previousl y to th e notice hav- Bill, and Mr. Elicounbe, against it, _ The CHAIRMAN decided that the standing orders had not, in so let as the point in question was concerned , been complied with. The Committee thou adjourned, 1V ENT AND Blciail—thiES. Mr. Miller was recalled and examined respecting the Queensferry branch. lie said the estimate of cost was 13a,0001., Of which 10.0001. was for land. The amount of land was sixty-six imperial acres. There was a tunnel 1,556 yards in length, through the coal forma tion. 'the worst gradient was one in sixty, at the QueensielTY ter initiation. This, could be easily worked, as similar gradients existed at the Grand Junction Liverpool station,, and et the . Euston -square station ; the latter was one in seventy. No accidents occurred on' similar gradients. There was at present a considerable passenger If ante, three being three or four coaches, and I , Might be. much in ct easea. Ihe object was to bring the carriages s of the train on to the ferry at a 1” , e1. thy extending the tunnel the gradient could be Un proved, but the expense would be very great. The Committee expressed a ;e:iire to h. ar some other engineer on the practicability of tie gradient, and the further consideration of the Bill was p,stponed in otter to hear Mr. Brunel on the point. THZ: GIIN*XI.II.I. TZIME.T.LTUS AND ASGCNV HA.1t30tT.1.1.. This Bill was then proceeded with, and witnesses on behalf of the scheme called. • Mr. Charles Gray, deputy-chairman of the Glasgow . River Trust, was test called and examined. Ile said it would be a great conve nience to approach the harbour by rails, but the attempts hitherto matte were defeated because it was fount that the schemes proposed would seriously interfere with the general traffic. It was this that caused the proposition of last seat to be defeated in its main features. The present scheme would obviate the difficulty, as it approached the harbour at a point that would not in the least degree interfere with the general pane of the harbour. The other two schemes did !tut approach the harbou; at such a good point. The one wets, too hiele the other too low. The Grand Junc tion wee so far ep that the rails wouel interfe , e very much with the general traffic ; end the Tedal Itstein aed the terminus of the Giase.ote if Arthur Miecral was so low dove that they would .inter fere with the vessels liasseeg up Ana &hen tile river. The Gettend Tennin:.9 Company had purchased th 6 laud for their purposes 1111 n the River Trust, and the latter Were in sapport of the scheme as the best 'mans of approaching the harbour without interfering with the general traffic. The sale of the land had been unanimously con firmed by the masters at 0110 0f their meetings.' C ro ss-examined by Mr. ehateoL, on the .part of the Glasgow Harbour Mineral—The position of the IlArhour Mineral Company tees decidedly objectionable, as it was too far down the river. It was further down than the proposed docks of the hives Trust at etoe Cross.. He did not think it was necessary to separate the mineral from the other traffic by different harbours ; it could be done in the same harbour. The vessels at present lay ou the south side in tiers of three and four deep, and the traffic was very great. The river opposite the general terminus was 48* met, and in the best part of the river. He had never opposed the laying down of rails on the quays, provided they did not interfere with the general traffic. Cross-examined by Mr. HILL, on the part of the Glasgow Harbour Grand Junction Company. lie considered the general terminus was the Pixiper mediunt for Aeproaching the harbohr. The River Trust was not bound to the general terminus beyond the agreement come to in the purchase of the land. He Old not know how many of them were shareholders. He only knew two or three,geldlenien who were shareholders. The length of nosy ou the south side was 3,701 foci. Ile had ten shares himself, an.i bought them at 9/. to . 101. premium.. Ile believed they were still = lett. Mr. Charles Gray said , the General Terminus lin e would afford In reply to a question from the Cuanterm e better amommodation to the coal traffic than the other two compa nies, as they would have to traverse a considerable portion of the town in bringing minerals from the south-east to the harbour. Mr. Dayid Chapman, another member .of the Rive, Trust, gave evidence precisely to the same effect as the previous one. He con sidered thee the hnmense traffic of the harbour should he concen trated as touch es possible, vethont, •at the same time, incommoding the general traffic, and this he thought would be hest done by the Genersl Terminus scheme. Mr. J. H. Payne, of the Glasgow Custom house, deposed as to the inconvenience to the Custonehouse officers front the mineral traffic at present on the quays. It was desirable to concentrate the mineral traffic as much as possible. The General 1 erminus scheme would do this the beat, and the least hicommodate the general traffic. As a proot of the great increase of the foreign trade of Glasgow, he would state that the Customs' revenuee which in 1833 was 97,000!., was now 589,0001. • The cross-examination of the witnesses elicited no point of a ma• terhil character beyond this. Mr. Dunlop, merchant and iron master, examined, and deposed as to the mineral traffic of Glasgow. The exports of coals in 1542, 1843, and 1844 were 1 30,000 tons. The iron durin g the same Vine was 84,0)0 tons.• The river steamers consumed 70,000 tons. The General 'rerminus line, in his opinion, would supply the harbour is a better manner than the ether two schemes. Mr. King was briefly examined as to the expected traffic. He estimated it at 7,4811. es. , and deducting 1,000/., for working the line, the residue would y ield 6 p er cent. on the capital the line would cost. The expense of the li ne would be about 111,000/. The General y e rm did int not believe sline:o ulathe was give r all lthe n ceonanthiation that was required. sufficient traffic to support a second terminus. Cross-examined —The powers in the Bill were to raise 200,0001. He had not included harbour slues in the 3d. per ton. No doubt if the Harbour :Mineral admitted coal into their basin with would e out dues, , partis point. w a ih w t a le ys th rr e e o fe t r t he z ' cheapest it would tie an "advantae as The further consideration of the Bill wa‘ then adjourned, EDZINTAITEGIi AND GLASGOW AMEND- MENT AND ELIZAI,ICIIES ------ Brunel was shortly examined on the ;..radicnt on the.Queens ferry branch, whi: h ho represented to he quite practicable. and not dangerous. at the dose of which the Committee adjourned at halt past four o'clock tilt to-morrow at twelve. GROUP XIV. The Committee appointed to ascertain the merits of the respective Bills comprised in this group re•assetubled at the usual hour this morning, in the Vice-Chancellor's Court, and proceeded with the case of the NORTH ICEATT 7.41/E. The first wittiest , ' called was air. Vignoles, the engineer of the lia, who stated that he was the engineer of several large and im imrtant lines. He first looked out a line in North Kent In the autumn of 1539. and that project had since been resumed more than once. Plans were deposited for the scheme in 1841 and 1842. His experience of the county had made him thoroughly ae quaieted with the district of the North Kent Railway long before the commencement of last year. In 1836, he re-surveyed a line for Colonel Langan,twhia had planned out a railway through North Kent, but that scheme fell through, and it was not until 1839 that he surveyed - the district on his own account. Neither of these projects was pr. tooted by the South Eastern Company, and he believed they would have been referred to Committees as com peting lines to the South-Eastern. In 1842 he laid out another line, promoted by Mr Isaac Lyon Goldsmith, but it was ultimately aban doned. in the following year, just previous to embarking for Ger many, he looked over the county chain, with a view of sketching out a line, and on • his return from Germany in 1844, he de vised a plan for crossing the river Medway at Rochester. His plan was, for erecting a bridge which • should unite the two advantagesof a roadtrainc and. railway bridge. The trustees of Rochester-bridee wire at the time 1111XtOUS to rebuild a bridge across the river, and he thought this a f,vourable opportunity for puolisldne its abut. At this time, however, he only contemplated a line to larg,ite aid Ramsgata, but subsequently, finding that he was followed by the South-Eastern Company step by step, he determined to extend the line from Chatham to Canterbury. A short time afterwards the South-Eastern Company carried their line from Ash ford through Canterbury to Margate and Ramsgate, and this induced him to abandon for the moment that portion of his line going in the same direction. The South-Eastern Company commenced surveying for a North Kent line in 1844, long after he had entered up o n his own surveys, and long after the prospectus of his own project had been published. The first notification the South-Eastern Company published was put forth in June, 1844, when they stated their intention to make a line from London to Gravesend, and from Gra , esend to Rochester and Maidstone. In the autumn of 1844, he settled his line from Chatham to Chilham, but it was thrown out last year. At this time he contemplated extending the line front Ctillham to Canterbury, and a fork to Deal and Dover, but the plans and surveys were not in a sufficiently forward state to justify it being brought before Parliament. The South-Eastern Company also introduced a scheme into Parliament last session, for a line from London to Chilham, which was ales thrown out. Since the close of last session he had re-surveyed his line, and added a Londo;t station, which be did not contemplate last year, and now he thought it was perfect and complete in every respect. The London Serrninus was about a quarter of a mile from the river at Southwark-bridge, but there was an existing scheme for extending the line across the bridge into the City, amid of another tor carrying the line on to Waterloo-bridge. The station would be in Union-street, in the Borough, at the point where it crossed the Southwark -bridge-road, and the spot was exeeedinely well adapted for a railway terminus, both as regarded being well circumstanced for immediate room and future extensions. The line passed nearly due south to Walworth,where it crossed the canal and struck through Peckham and Camberwell. It then ran in the direction of Black heath to the north of Telegraph-hill, and crossed the Croydon Rail way a short distanee from the New-cross station. At this point there was a short junction, which. gave an access to the London-bridge Kati n, to Portsmouth, to Brighton, and to Southampton. After passing the Croydon Railway, the line passed the Raven's Pond Valley, :Ind then the line was to extend under Blackheath by means of a tunnel. At the end of this tunnel there was a loop commenced, which ran through Woolwich and joined the main line at Plump stead-common. The station at Woolwich was in the centre of the town, near William-street and Powes-street, and was well and eon• ventently situated. The mai n line was continued by . tunnelling of 1,060 yards in length ; and here a branch mightuiiderl b c e o s ol t N ra vl c e k h-c o o . m t innfoo, r accommodating her Majesty's arsenals and dock-yards, crossing Plump, tead-common, a thickly populous neigh bourhood, the line ran through Welling, Bexley; and Bexley heath From thence the line passed Crayford to Hartford. The line of the South-Eastern Company, which was 24 miks in length, a , aided the population of the district, while his own ran through the country where the population was centered, and was only 14 miles in length. Both lines passed from Dartford to Gravesend in the same direction. At Gravesend the South-Eastern line joined Gravesend and Rochester. His own means passed through Milton and under the chalk-hills byof a tunnel, and then entered upon the banks of the Medway on a viaduct and crossed the Medway at a considerable elevation. He proposed to effect the passage of the Medway by means of a bridge which united the qualities of a road and a railway bridge. It was upon three arches, the centre one 186 feet span, and the two side ones 180. The Rochester side of the bridge would be on a screw, and might be converted . into a draw br:d;e. His plan was approved of both by the admiralty and the local authorities. in preference to the bridge of the South-: astern Company ; in fact the Government would not allow any bridge to cross the river which WAS not on his own plan, bnt, independently of this fact, the South-Eastern Company could not make their bridge within the limits of the deviation line marked on their Parliamentary plans NORTH Mr.NT LINE. The station at 'Rochester would be more conveniently situated for Rochester and Chatham than the South-Eastern station, both for passengers going to Stroud as well as to London. At Chatham he proposed to extend the area of the quays, and to pass on a level With them. Front Chatham the line ran on to Sittingbounte, anti Passed under the military grounds, citadels, gun-wharfs, and fortifications of Chathamby means of a tunnel of 1,000 yards in length; while this portion of the South-Eastern line was precisely the same as his own of last year. Between Chatham and Sittingbotime the South- Eastern line was two miles longer. From Sittingbourne there will be a branch to Sheerness of seven miles in length. From Sittingbourne the main line passed on to Faversham, with an alternative line to pass through or Avoid the 'town, and then pro ceeded direct to Canterbury, passing under Boughton-hill, of 1,500 yards in length; and aprons the , Margate 'branch of TTaisma toile andthr throughout half ,ou t lon o g n e l r y . e i o r n . l e ine from Canterbury to Deal, the Soutli-Eastern Company, a little: below Ilambledoun-hill. From Canterbury, leaving the station ,at Nuttnery-lields, the line passed under the Doveteroad, and in .t-he Built valley beyond that road the line forked off, one branch going to Deal, and the other to Dover, and also near to a station. Dover. The distance of the line from Canterbury to Dover was was at the road, the other across distance 'would be 74 and the Canterbury, where London-bridge would be linesixteen e.l.,,,aiitke,. hij,ceebj:twer,to:i:lout a n sgts. eliti:t i :). l e. e ,ti, e(t ; :i It i : ' ,ltor t , imlbn:iientb. Canterburyl g S s43 o bu u t e t ri lhriu-oitul Companyha, er,ih s : ts t h. 7 n e boopt n or 10,w1 o i : di lvent i s g e to Dover Was 73 miles. The own. His the i-s w ho l e the lines of the eotwilnline would ol 72 eo miles. Measuting estimate, including everything, about i d sr i ( s o, :' : t c ..7.Et e i7t, ' while the distance from London to Deal would • rloo-brkDefeight or nine miles longer by the South be. from Wate was 3,750,0001. Taking the whole of the lines of the North Kent a r i o s tl f evor t ain h ut, e esersl; So oswo, u 2r t ito h ia - od E l: lit k ) Company,: t t s t e r South- Easternn li estimate was nearly the same, namely, from 32,. This 10'33,000/. per mile. This closed the examination in chief of 31r. Vignolles. It was understood, hoe ever, that the parties were to exchange detailed accounts of the estimates of each p ro j ect. The witness was then cross-examined by , a i n itit t : h tt e li' l ea l enTtrbeyrge prig t at °a :l: a : ni p ri e e o r fir. nIISTIN, on behalf of the South-Eastern Company. The scheme he had iu view from aTithe was s scheme before Perna -1839 to 1842, was a line from the Greenwich R a i lway to Chatham , and in 1e43 he prop osed to extend the line to Ma rgate, and in 1844, a proposed to carry on t r t y he to ment was for a lime t o Canterbury, same time avoiding the Brighton, and going by way of Chatham . The original project was a line to Dover , but the the line branch t t ii o ro C u h g a h t h c a t T i . plans were tioC f rea dy for pushing it thus a Ir. h ...Le project was Opposed by the atmliSp er i c Company, who contended th a t t h ere was no traffic along the, district, and Parliament negatived th e Bill. The N or th Kent,Coinpany come new for the firs t ti me fora Bill to make a line Canterbury 10 DoVer. The Bill is for making a line from Union-street to Dover. were •Wle P e aty of room on the Borough side of Southwark -bridge, t on the other side room was restricted, 0i ,,,, ,-, e 4 wueen-street was an exceedingly narrow and inconvenient th ordighfare. Union-street was about 600 yards from the Greenwich station at London-bridge. The latter point WAS nearer to the Royal Exchange by 300 yards than the former. The area of the station ht Union-street was con siderably larger than the station at London-bridge. The short branch for connecting the line with the South- Western Extension at the point of intersection was 14 or 15 feet above the South-Western Extension, but this difficulty was overcome by a short course within the limits of deviation, and the junction was effected t r . 0 a gentle inclination. The line was about 10 or 12 eLnitis radius. The gradient was 1 in 200. The junction would be boned at Ewer-street. The great ob ject now was to get an easterly and westerly terminus in the metro polis. The line would he UNA a viaduct as far as Peckham, and to the )tuntion beyond:few-cress with the Croydon line the distance Sub-Committee No. 6. This Committee re-assembled at t‘Tert.ty minutes past [web , . o'clock thO day- Present, k Captain Jones (chairman); Air.' Deede:, „ nit Lord Einington. TITS suaznxmr.N. samtrwr, AND Eliaarrir was the first case called on. It appeared that a petition had Fosc:n presented against the Bill by certain parties, but, as it was' not lodged in due' time, the Corn mittee, of course,..refused to entertain it. The object of the promoters of the Bill is the construction of a rail way from Aberdeen by Band' to Elgin. The length is 74 miles, and the estimated cost is 69.1,0i00/. Engineer, Thomas Grainger: Esq. ; local engineer, Alexander Smith, Esq.; Parliamentary agents, Messrs. Richardson. Connell, and Loch ; solicitors, George Mom°, Esq., Edinburgh, and Messrs. Stronech and Grainger, Aberdeen. • The preliminary proofs having been put in, the Committee decided that the standing orders had been complied with. EAST DEREHA3I AND NORWICH. The promoters seek to construct a railway from East De! eh= to Norwich. The length of the line is fillet n utiles ; tint estimate, 160,0001. ; and the amount lodged in the Accountant-Geerl's hands, 122,0001. Engineers, William A. Rorthwick, Esq., s"d Tot ett, Esq.; Parliamentary Agent, James Coppock, Esq. ; solicitor, Mr. Drake. The CHAIRMAN discoverer that there Was a clause in the Bill which would empoWer the Company to lease their line to th, North of Norfolk Railway Company, or to any other company "now, or hereafter to be, termed ;" an! he doubted whether the promoters could intreduce a clause irto their 801 to give towers to another company not yet formed. The room' was cleared of , trangers, and after the absimce of about halt all hour we were retdittitted, when it appean , d that the Com mittee bad overruled the objection of the Chairman. The case was theft further proceeded with, and, at the conclusiort, the Committee decided that the promoters had complied with the standing orders. • STANDING OIIDERS' COMMITTEES. HOUSE OF COMMONS. Room No. 3. This Committee met at twelve o'clock Mr. Aglionby- (the Chairman), I►tr. Thornely. Mr. Aidam, and Mr. Broaoley, were present. EASTELN COUNTIES (HERTFORD TO HUNTINGDON). Mr. Vella; ales app, ared for the promoters, and Mr. Coates on the part of the opposition. Mr. VENA - E'LES matte an application that the consideration of this Bill should be postponed for a mouth as it was at present before the House of Lords, in competition with the London and York line, and it ‘‘ curd be inconvenient to go into the question before the decision of that committee was known. Mr. COATEs contended that the grounds alleged by his Learned Friend a ere quite Insufficient to warrant the postponement required. A. Mr. Venttbles (!eclineti to proceed, the Committee decided that the standing order., had not been complied with. Room No 9. The members of this Cliimmittee met this morning, and decided in the cases of the Midland, Barnsley, Sheffield, and Pewsliury Rail way, the North Wales Railway, the Buckinghamshire Rallway, and the West London Railway. that the standing orders ought to be dis pensed with, and that the proututers should be allowed to proceed with their Bills. In the case of the Macclesfield and Lichfield Railway, the Com mittee decided that the standing orders ought not to be dispensed with. The decision in the ease of the Welsh Midland 12ailway was poet polled until Friday next. The Worcester and Portdynllaen was allowed to bo proceeded with BEDFORD AND CAMBRIDGE EXTENSTONT RAILWAY The object of this line !s to extend the Bedford, London, and Bir mingham Railway to Cain bridgo, and to enable the promoters to sell or lease the proposed line to the Easterk Counties Company. The length of the line Is 2034 miles, and the estimated cost 360,0001. Messrs. Burke and Co. are the Porltamentary agents ; Messrs. M. A. Bortwick and R. Stephenson the engineers; and Messrs. Parker, Hayes, and Co., the solicitors. • The usual et idence of the preliminary steps was then given, front which it appeared that the required notice of the construction of the line had not been given in all the counties through which the Eastern Counties line passed, and this omission was reported by the Committee to be a non-compliance with the standing orders. The petitions against the line were then gone into. Mr. PARKE, on the part of Mr. Pim, presented the first peti tion, one of the allegations of which was that the plans and sections deposited in the Private Bill.office, and those depositett with the Clerk of the Peace for the county of Cambridge, were not in con formity with the standing orders. Among other points it was al. legcd that the proposed line was marked at a certain point 4 feet 6 inches shove the road, when it should have been 4 feet 6 inches below. Another allegation was that there was an error inthe pro moters' sections of 8 feet 9 at the crossing of a certain road. Atter a lengthened examination of witnesses on these points, Mr. Hui= said that he would not contest the allegation of the cr.ntinuous error, as he had no explanation to offer, but he would prepare himself when the Bill went before another tribunal to rebut the evidence now given, it that could be done. _ . The Committee then decided that the standing orders had not been complied with in the points alleged in the petition fll% to the errors in levels. With regard to the alleged different-4 the sections de posited in the Private Bill-office, and those wtsl4 the clerk of the peace for the county o Cambridge, there was /to difference in the sections, but there were certain words emitted in the sections de posited at Cambridge, the omission of which the Committee did not think (Tatty importance. Another petition, where the objections were nearly similar, was then gone into. In some of the particulars tie Committee were of espinion that the standing orders were complied with, but in others that there was a non-compliance with them. The Committee at four o'clock ejourued till twelve o'clock on Friday next. - Room No. 9. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition.) The Reading, Reigate, and Guildford Railway ; the Northumber land and Lancashire ; and the Shrewsbury and Herefordshire, allowed to proceed. The Glasgow, Paisley, and Ayr (No. 6), not allowed to proceed. COMMITTEES ON PRIVATE BILLS. Sulu-Committee No. 6.` The following additional Bills have been referred to this Com mittee:—The Wath-upon-Dearne Improvement; Dublin Markets; Wolverhampton Stipendl44rV Justice ; Northampton Small Debts ; British Guarantee Association; Lower Bann Navigation; Lincoln Waterworks; Worcester Gas; Dublin Cemeteries; Legal Quays (London). WATII-UPON-DEARNE IMPROVEMENT. The customary proofs having been put in, the Committee declared :hat the standing orders had been compiled with. DUBLIN MARKETS. Standing orders complied with. WOLVERHAMPTON STIPENDIARY JUSTICE. The Committee gave a simiar decision in this case. NORTHAM} TON SMALL I)EBTS. This Bill was withdrawn. LINCOLN, WATERWORKS. Standing orders complied with in this case, except as to the evidence of an absent witness. WORCESTER GAS. And in this also DUBLIN CEIIETERIES. The promoters were declared to have complied with the. standing orders BRITI;II GUARANTEE ASSOCIATION. No notice of this Bill having been given in the Gazette (which the agent stated was not necessary), the Committee stated that they would report non-compliance with the standing orders in that respect, but in all ethers compl±ance. LEGAL QUAYS (LONDON). The. Committee decided that in this case the standing orders did not apply, and that leave would of course be giveu to proceed with the 13111 without the service of any notice. The Parliamentary agents are Messrs. l'arnitt and Walmesley, of the House of Lords. ST. ALBAN'S, HATFIELD, AND lIERTFOItu. Adjourned at the request of the agent till Tuesday neat. The Committee then adjourned. FREE-TRADE. What makes the flo,:d resistless in its power ? The silent swellings which at length o'ertower Its high embankment, artificial mounds, ltais'd by mankind to circumscribe its bounds. What mighty impulse spreads throughout the lent ? The voice of millions in a just demand, That all restriction cease on human food, And human industry—the general good Of ev'ry nation mutually to bind • In one vast fellowship with all mankind. Nor can monopoly, with all its art, Maintain a fabric, and a strength impart Sufficient to resist a nation's cry— Th' increasing thirst for human liberty. Look back upon the sufferings and toil, Which forc'd the labourer, 'mid a fertile soil, To gaze upon it with regret, and feel His sturdiest efforts for the common weal But half-requited ; and his fetble power, his single voice, if rais'd, must quickly cower Beneath the arm of stern oppressive laws — Till, bold and fervent in a righteous cause, To urge a Nation's claims, resist the wrong, Uprose a VILLIERS, passionate and strong. His course through prejudice and fraud to steer, The contest to renew ft om year to year, Within that House where senators should prove Their first great object is their country's love I Here, with true eloquence he stood his ground, As slow conviction, gathering, spread around, For fraud and prejudice yet closer clung In desperate phalanx, until up there sprung An engine—mightier than their powers combin'd— Rising majestic from the strength of mind Of COBDEN and of BRIGHT—THE LEAGUE, whose voice Spoke, million-tongued, the people's only choice, With bloodless weapons to exert their might, 'Till triumph crown their efforts in the fight. 'Midst calumny to stand, with open brow, To brave the taunts with firmness from a foe; Prepar'd with cunning and with tact to wield A broken falchion ere he quit the field To Truth and Justice, or with others strive, Whose honest prejudice has kept alive A spirit of resistance, till the gleam Of light, once open'd , bursts in one broad stream To clear the inteilect, and pave the way Fair Truth's fair progress, and for Reason's sway, These are the trials, and the just. reward Attendant on the men whose whole regard Is center'd in the glory to expand lleav'n's greatest blessings on their native land. A cause so just admits of no delay; Clear but the mists of ignorance away ; See the broad current cf FREE TRADE spread wide Its fruitful influence—like th' Egyptian tide. 'Twill then exert its salutary reign To cool and irrigate the sociql d pluin— To blend in one vast whole the human kiu min And curb the angry passions of man d March, 1846. C. B. THE BENEV STOLENTPATRICK SOCIETY OF . . The 63d anniversary festival of this Society was celebrated last evening at the Freemason's Tavern. The attendance was not very numerous, there being only about 120 persons ent . Among the nobility and gentry assembled '‘ ' v res e observed the following. :—Lords Palmerston and Lincoln, Viscount Courtenay, Barou Robeck, Admiral Sir C. Malcolm, General Caulfield, Sir W. Somerville, General L'Estrange, Sir T. B. Lennard, Sir R. Campbell, Sir J. N. R, Campbell, Mr. R. Archbold, M.P., Mr. J. Collett. M.P., Mr. Butler, M.P., Mr. J. W. Fitzpatrick, and Mr, Sharman Crawford, M.P. The cloth having been drawn, and the usual loyal w aste having been proposed and drunk with all the honours * Lord PALMERSTON, who filled the chair, gave 4 ` The Army and Navy." In introducing the toast he expressed a hope that a period was fast approaching when wars would mac. Ile hoped that means might be found of settling difkences which might be honourable to both parties, without having recourse to the lamentable struggle of arms ; but if it was our misfortune ever again to be compelled by the violence or injustice of any other nation to draw 'the sword in defence of our rights and honour, they might be sure they would find our army and navy equal to any emergency. Their nerves had not been unstrung, their energies not impaired, nor their skill undiminished by the influence of peace. If such an alternative should ever arise, he was sure that Ire land would have her share in the glories and triumphs of their common country. General L'EsmaNGE and Admiral Markor,sr acknow ledged the toast on behalf of their respective services. The PRESIDENT then proposed "Health and Prosperity to the Benevolent Society of St. Patrick." In doing so, he said that in most other countries the duties of public d ist il were discharged entirely by the Government ; but in this land they were mainly supported by the voluntary contribu tions of private individuals. Yet the s.eurces of it never dried up, and he could only liken it to those streams which flowed from lofty mountain ranges, and which, however sup -1 plied :. were snce never:tg n ut wanting for ed VroN id the !. l P risTra e lli t t' o re7 h w i l e i h o came to this country was an object of peculiar compassion. In the hour of his clitliculti he was removed from frogdt fug relations. He believed that no greater service could Fe done to hitn than by giving to his eaildren, as this Society pro• posed, the benefits of instruction. The next toast proposed was the " Health or the Lord- Lieutenant of Ireland." The Earl of LiNtAiLN returned thanks, and on rit , ing was received with considerable appLuise. He said that it was his duty, in consideration of the office which he had the honour to hold, to -rise, in the absence of the Lord-Lieu tenant, to thank thein for the compliment,,whien they had paid him. lie hoped that he • might be• allowed to interpret the ,reception which he had met with as an ac knowledgment, with resinct to the Lord-Lieutenant. of his de3ire to co-operate in any measures which might promote the good cf the country over which the Sovereign had placed him as viceroy. In improving the condition of Ireland, he was sure they would all agree with their Noble President that education stoed pre-eminent. He be lieved that Government, and societies, and individuals might do . much separately for the amelioration of that unhappy country, but the greatest, good for Ireland would be effected by the co operation of ad. Tire moment had arriN ed when the Government was called on to make great exertions on behalf of the physical wants of Ireland; but he trusted that private charity would flow not has uninterruptedly from pri vate sources. The health of th., various benefactors of the society, that ofthe President, anti various other toasts, were given and drunk, and, the Secretary having announced the amount c.f subscriptions collected to be about 9801., the guests nib perstA. The galler4 of - the hall WAS graced vt ith the presence of many ladies, who were patient spectators of the festivities going on beneath. The band of the Coldstream Guards was in attendance, and the muskal and other arrangements were excelltnt. IRELAND. REPEAL ASSOCIATION. DrELIN. 3.IARCH IG= t he weekly meeting of the Associa tion was held this day; Mr. ‘litchell in the chair. The CHAIRMAN having briefly addres.4l the meeting, the Secretary read the following letter from Mr. O'Connell " London, March 14, 1846. "fly dear Ray,--I have been so hurried to-day, that I bad not time to send a cminitentary upon the rtraaining clauses of the coercion ukase. I regret it the more as there mixes with the horrors of some (3,' its enactments something exceed ingly ludicrous and provokingly absurd. There is one thing very- peculiar; namely, that it is the first enactment against tee-tutallers, and places on the same footing the- beastly drinkers of whisky with the virtuous and abstetnious lent's of teetotalism. In fact, under this Act, a man may be transported sewn :veal.. fur presuming to drink a :cup of coffee in any house but his own. But I shall reserve for the next , 'ay of meeting further commentary. " My great object in writing this hurried line is to conjure the independent Members of Parliament to come to London as speedily as possible. The presence of every Irish Member friendly to constitutional liberty is essentially required by the exigence of the times. "There is one c(wkolation—that the atrocious and ludicrous Coercion Bill carries with it a most unanswerable argument in favour of the protection of a domestic Parliament. Believe tw to be faithfully yours, "T. M. Ray, Esq.", " DANfEL O'CONNELL. Mr. GRArrA )1,. M.P., having moved the insertion of the letter in the minutes, expressed his determination of pro ceeding immediately to London for the p urpose of opposing the Coercion Bill. It had been his determinatioit ,not to enter the House of Commons so long as the Irish Arms Act remained on the.statute-book, hut the urgent necessity ot re sisting the proposed despotic enactment obliged him to alter his resolution. In conclusion, the Hon. Gentleman handed in 1001, from the Repeaters of New York. everat gentlemen haVing addressed the meeting, a resolu tion •(moved by Mr. Grattan) directing the committee of the Asiociation to prepare a:report on the extent of crime in Ire• land against the next day of meeting, was adopt,A. The rent for the week was then anrounced to h.: 2404 9s. 2d. The meeting then adjourned. ASSIZE IN TEL LI GENQ E..,-Ctonotd, March 13. SOUTH TIPPERA RY. Thomas Fenessy, for the murder of his servant, 'Patrick Crotty, was put on his trial yesterday, and the case has oc cupied the greater part of two days. Judge BALL left it to the jury to sad• whether the homi cide amounted to deliberate murk:, Cr preseuted the Mere mitigated elle racter of manstiughter. The jury returned a vbrdict of not guilty of murder, but guilty of manslaughter. COUNTY OF KILDARE.—SATURDAY. TRIAL Hitt THE MURDER OF DONNELLY, TIIE CRIPPLE,. —This case, which excited so much attention throughout this county, was called on at the sitting of the Court. The prisoner, Janes Quigley, a low, smooth-faced, rather ill-looking young man, was put to the bar, and indicted in the usual form for the wilful murder of Patrick Donnelly, at Caragh, on the 24th of September last. The principal evidence for the Crown was that of an ap prover, named Francis Reilly, who deposed that on the night of the murder, he and the prisoner were going to rob a Scotchman, who was travelling in a gig, when the cripple% and two women came up to where they were standing, near a gravel pit ; a scuttle ensued, when the prisoner drew a pistol and shot the et:ippl, dead. .. - On cross-examination this witness stated that he could not form the remotest idea of the number of outrages, robberies, and crimes be had been engaged iu. Could not go within twenty of the number. Mr. GORMAN—TeII me within five times of how often you were tried.—Oh, I was seldom caught, you know ; I generally put in another in my place, and that was my business to the castle; r, y conscience smote me when the man waA mur dered, and I went out and committed a highway robbery next night. I was afraid I" would be hanged, and then in conscience smote me, 6o I said I would save it and my nec together. I thought as much of my neck, if not more, tha I did of my conscience. Mr. GORMAN—On your oath, do you think there is as great a villian as yourself breathing the breath of life at this moment ? Witness—l don't think there is. After the examination of other witnesses, the jury re, turned a verdict of n*lt " CHIEF JUSTICE-13 there any other charge against this man ? Gaoler—Yes, my Lord, he is under seotenee of fifteen years' transportation for the robbery at Manchardstos‘n. CHIEF JUSTICE—I am very much delighted to hear it, as it will prevent him fror.., tloubliug this country for that time. It Y DE. (From the hamp%hire Independent.) c The specimen of cleri c al int o leranc e , rub hsh below from our correspondent, is one of th7oencatshees which bring disgrace, in s tead o f cre d it, " Church by law established"—the Church, which is so fond of calling itself the Church of ell the people, when all the people are called upon to contribute to its luxuries; but which invariably proves itself to be only a sect, when sectarian purposes are 'ro be served. The pre , . nt case is one, too, in witich all the natural, as well as 8 , ciai, feelings are outraged. Such exhibitions are as unwise as they are intolerant and unjust, and are only calculated to cover with contempt and obloquy a system which would vainly call itself national, whilst it is, in fact, the reflection of every petty obloquy and every local abuse. The Church ought to be relieved by its rulers and superiors from such suicidal wrong. REFUSAL OF A CLERGYMAN TO INTER THE BODY OF A DISSENTING MINISTER.—The following particu lars of one of the most atrocious specimens of clerical, intolerance that have, recently occurred, are supplied by a correspondent, of whose entire accuracy we are assured: —The late Rev. T. S. Guyer, as a minister of the Gospel, laboured faithfully in this town for znore than 28 years. About twelve years since the late Mr. Guyer chose Binsteed as' the place of interment for an infant daughter that died, and she was buried there. About four years since another daughter died; she was twelve years old. She was buried by the present Minister at Birsfeed without objection. Accordingly Mr. Guyer long since fixed on Binstead as the piece where he and his family should be buried. Those who attended his ministry know that he has often spoken meat touchingly of the spot where the babe and the daugne r rest, expect lag his dust would mingle with theirs. - A few days before he died he gave commaedment concerning hie bones," and requested to be buried at Binsteed. Arrangements were made accordingly, and notice was given to that effi , ct on Sabbath evening last. On Monday, the un dertaker, who is a deacon of the Independent Church at Ryde, applied to Mr. Hewett in the usual way for leave of interment, but aas refused, he assigning as the reason that the late Mr. Guyer was a Dissenting Minister, and that he had preached against the Church of England ; assuring the applicant that no consideration (tor many were urged) would induce him to alter his decieion. That if the family wished, he would raise no obstacle to their moving the ashes of the children, to facilitare which the Reverend Gentleman offered to forego hi s his fees. At the request of the widow and family it was thee arranged that the remains of G ee b e l oved Minister should be interred in a vault to be prepared in the chapel where he had so long laboured. These are the facts and circumstances. I leave the Successor of the Apostles in the hands of the friends of the Church as by Law Established. FUNERAL OF THE REV. T. S. GUTER.—On Friday (yesterday) the remains of the Rev. gentleman, amid a vast concourse of' spectators, were borne to their rest ing place, and deposited in a vault prepared for them hatbands,bera at the foot of the pulpit, of which f or 28 years he had been the ornament. The mourners, in great n asiernbled at ten o'clock, wearing ow and proceeded at eleven , un a t ud a n f re tz t t le e which they followed in procession. The ministers of familylndependentfollowed Chapels the ministerssup members, congregation, and other friends, Tickets had been preciously issued to the occupier, of seats in the chapel, without which no one wa., admitted till after the procession of Portsea , officiated at the inter- La had entered. 'Ph Binney, London, prstnour e T. C • po o'clockrtsupported otfht°tehePaelol meet the corpse, which, by its powerful e n 4 t, and v. the R o e u v s n T s . , en intense am\ thriP'llrla ed the funeral oration, Adkins, of youthentton, effective eloquence, created dog sensation. The Rev, T. preached the funeral ser mon in the eve Ling. The shops were generally closed, and every demonstration of love and respect far the memory of the departed was evinced by every class and denomination. It had been the dying request of the reverend gentleman that he should be buried alongside his children in the ground at Binsteed ; but the rector, the Rev. Philip Hewett, on the ground that Mr. Guyer was a rninisteWsJud teacher of dissent, peremptorily refused his permileklan for the interment there, but would offer no impediment nor claim his fees for the removal in due form of the re mains of the children, should it be desired by the fa mily. A deep feeling of regret pervades the whole town (and more especially among the members of the Established Church), that such an uncalledefor attempt w taint the memory of such a man 4:4 the deceased, should emanate from a minister of t)'..e Church of Eng land. It bas created a generous expression of sympathy for the widow and family, whose feelings have been so nenecessarily outraged. The following letter of condo lence has beau autac - rously signed by members of the Established Church : " The undersigned members of the Protestant Church of England, having long known the exemplary deport ment of the late Rev. Thomas S. Guyer, as a minister of the gospel, feel ourselves more especially called upon, under present circumstances, to unite in testifying our deep respect for his memory, and our sincere sympathy with his bereaved family. ityde, March 11, 1846." William Brown, Esq., of Liverpoo - 1,; has purchased from tile Marquis of Watertbr4.l the extrusive estate ct Ford, in liortinunbtrland, for 300,0004 '4 a