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i."-•• ~:.,. 's A . ' •‘. 1 :4 Aftfi ir` Y , ' fi'? ' ~•--. . • ' , . gao ... . ~ f,... --.. , ..4 , . . . , , . " . S U , - . --' , . 1 .02 / ., . „. 1. 4 , 4 ' ;il-e , q-- 2 4 (" r Zi.." (l' '('''' t: • • f.' , ,rc •• 2. N. NUMBER 9611 . R I DAY, JUNE 13, 1823. PII.ICE S,EVNPENCE. ROYAL ACADEMY. somEassr PLACE. T HE EXHIBITION of the ROYAL ACA DENIY is NOW OPEN. Admission (from Eight o'Clock till Seven), Is. Catalogue, Is. H ENItY tiOWARD, R.A. Sec. PARLIAMENT. REDUCED FARES, and UNEQUALLED TRAVELLING, TO DOVER. DEAL, RAMSGATE, NIARGATE, AND CANTERBURY. FOUR INSIDE COACHES, AND KEEP GOOD TIME, By S. A. MOUNTAIN and Co. SARACEN'S HEAD INN, SKINNF.R-STREET, SNOW HILL. LONDON. THE followinr LIGHT POST-COACHES, and MAILS, sic. set out from the above Inn:— The " Telegraph," DOVER, Deal, Ramsgate ' Margate, Broadstairs, Canterbury, Feversham, and Sandwich. new Post-Coach—every Morning at a quarter past 7 o'Clock. In consequence of the decided preference given to the Telegraph Coach, the Proprietors are determined no expence shall be spared to render it the first conveyance on the Kent road. BROMPTON, Chatham, Rochester, Gravesend, Stroud, Nittingbourne, Rainham, and Ospringe, Morning, Quarter Vast 7, at Reduced Fares. : The " Royal Eclipse," FALMOIYI'U, Plymouth, Exeter, Triaro, Bodmin, Penryn, Ashburton, Tutness, Dartmouth, Iliquiont h, Dorchester, and Salisbury, every morning at `Seven ; thintigh Honhon, Axminster, Bridport, Blandford, ''Stockbridge, Sutton, Basingstoke, Hartford Bridge., Black water, and Bagshot. The only Day Coach to WEYMOUTH, (driven through 'with Two Coachmen only), through Bagshot, Black water, Basingstoke, Overton, Whitchurch, Andover, Woodyeats, Cashmore, Salisbury, Blandford, and Dorchester, at a Quar ter past Five ()Thick in the Morning, at reduced Fates. The " Union," SOUTHAMPTON, Lyeatogton, Lyndhurst, Winchester, Basingstoke, Hartford Bridge, Black water, and Bagshot, New Four Inside Coach, every Morning at a o'Cluck ; tamers at the Coach and Horses and Vine Inn, Southampton, by Five. This is a most delightfol Conveyance to the Isle of Wight, Jersey, Guernsey, St. Maloes, Havre de Grace, Cher bourgh, &c.—The Prom ietors of the above Coach tope to receive a continuance of that support which has hitherto been experienced since the commencement of the " Union." The " Champion," a New light Day Coach to DOR CHESTER, in 13 hours only, through Bagsbnt, Blackwa ter, Basing.toke, Overton, Whitchurch, Andover, Salis bury, Woad)eats, Cashmore, and Bland lord, at a Quarter past Five o'clock in the morning. The Proprietors of the Champion Coach are determined no expence shall be spared to render it the first tainveyance un the Western Road. BATH and BRISTOL Post-Coaches, through Chippen ham, Caine, Marlborough, Newbury, and Reading, every Afternoon at one; arrive at the Greyhound Inn, Bath, the London Tavern, Thomas-street, and Swag, Bristol, early the next Nlorning.—Coaches to Wells, Bridgewater, Taunton, and Plymouth, at reduced Fares. The " Umpire," a New LIVERPOOL Light Coach, only one Night on the Road, carrying Four Inside, sets out Daily. at One ; arrives at Liverpool next afternoon at Fire, through Woburn, Latlibury, Northampton, Welford, Luttetworth, Hinckley, Atherstone, Litchfield, Stone, Newcastle, Knots lord, Wington, and Pres'eot. SHRFSBURY, Wellington, and Shilfnal, Light Post. Coach, every Afternoon.—Guarded. The " Champion," WEYMOUTH; through Dorchester, Blandford, Salisbury, Andover, Overton, Basingst Oise, Hart ford Bridge, !Backwater, and Bagshot,'new light Day Coach, at reduced Fares.—Packets from Weymouth to Guernsey, Jersey, Cherbourg, St. Maloe's, &c. every Wednesday and Saturday afternoon, at Two °Thick. BARNSTAPLE and Soul Innoltim New Light Post Coach every Nlunday, Wednesday, and Friday Mornings, at Seven .o'Cluck. The " Rockingham," LEEDS light Post Conch, sets out every Afternoon at Two; and passes through Baldock, Big. gleswade, Eatcni, littekden, Stilton, Wansforts, Stamford, Greetham, Grantham, Newark, Tuxford, Markham Moor, Ream d, Bawtry, Doncaster, and Ferrybridge; arrives at't he Golden Lion Inn, Leeds, next Afternoon at Three o'Clock, in time for the Bradford, Halifax, Skipton, and Hudders field Coaches, at Reduced Fares (driven through with Four Coachmen only).—Luggage and Packages only id per In.— Notwithstanding the uticumnion Expedition of this Coach, it it 'allowed to he the most agreeable and complete Puhlic Conveyance on the North Road, being unequalled by any tither. HARROWOATE and Ripon new Light Post Coaches, every Afternoon at Two, and Eight in the Morning. GLASGOW, Longtown, Gretna-green, Annan, Dumfries, Biownbill, Thornhill, Sangultar-Kilts, Canmuck, Kings well, and all Parts of Scotland, a light Four inside Post Cssich daily. The " Express," to YORK, Scarborough, Whitby, Shields, Sunderland, Newcastle, and Edinburgh, a New light Four 'inside Post Coach, with a Guard throughout; sets out. .every Morning, by way of Newark, Retford, Doncaster, Fat ybridge, Ts:deader, Darlington, Northallerton, Durham, , Mitt peth, and Berwick, and arrives at York the next Morn. , in at Twelve o'Clock, at reduced Fares. Passengers Bod in themselves fatigued on the journey, mar rest what tit e they please, and then proceed without an y a dditi on -v:a4t. MARLBOROUGH and Swindon, four-inside Day Coach, 'through Aldbourn, Reading, Lamboarn, Parton, Lydington Pewsey, Wootton Basset, Ransil:my,. Hangerford, Newbury and Maidenhead. BRIDGENORTII, Withal, Shrewsbury, Salon, and Holy bead New Light Coach, reel y Afternoon,. at reduced Fares. The New Royal Patent Mail, BOSTON and Lomb, through Royston, Cambridge, Huntingdon, Stilton, Pete' borough, Deeping, Spalding, Spilsby, Alford, Gtintsby, and Hull, Evening, •at Half past Seven o'Cluck, Sunday, at a Quarter before Seven. The " Express," a New Light Four-inside Post Coach to CARLISLE, Petah'', and Whitehaven, with a Gonad all the way, passes through Appleby Brough, Bowes, Greta btidge, Richmond, Catterick, Boroughbridge, Ferrybridge, Doncaster Newark, Bawtry, Grantham, Stamford, Grey -than:, Stilton, Biggleswade, and Balduck. Sets out in the Morning, and performs the journey with the greatest faci lity; at reit:cell Fares. Passengers detained on the Road by business or pleasure, have the peculiar advantage of their Beats being secured itt the next Coach.—The only direct Coach inearlisle. ' 'The New Royal Patent Mail, CAMBRIDGE, through Ware, Buntingford, Rockland, and Royston, Evening, at Half past Seven o'Clock, Sunday, at a Quarter before Seven. KENDAL, Lancaster, Prestos:, Kirby-Lansdale, Bolton, Chorley, Onusktrk, and Garstang Light Post Coaches, every :Afternoon. The " Royal Express," New Light Four Inside Post Coach, .to LIVERPOOL, in is hours only, through Warrington, Trescot, Cotigleton, Lawton, Newcastle, Rudgly, Knutsford, 'Stone, Stadawd, and Litchfield, (only One Night on the &wad), every Afternoon; arrives at the Saracen's Head inn, Pale-street, Liverpool, next Eyenhtg, at Seven, at reduced Tares. • WAKEFIELD Four inside Post-Coaches, every Morning and Afternoon, at reduced Fares. CHESTER, Newport, Whitechurch, Tarporley, Nankin ' •wieli, Northwich, and Middlewich Light Post-Coach, every •Afternmin. SUNDERLAND, Stockton, and Yarm Light Post Coach, 'every Morning, to the George Inn, Sunderland, at reduced Fares. Mountain's " Express," to MANCHESTER, Winslow, Congletiiii, Newcastle, Walsal, Wolverhampton, and Knots *ford, new Four Inside Post-Coach, every Afternoow—Only One Night on the Road, at reduced Fares. • SHEFFIELD and Rotherham New Four inside Post -Coaches every Morning, ealle.l " The Express," and also •" The Rockingham," every Afternoon, at reduced Fares. The "Royal Express," New BIRMINGHAM Light Pott Coach, sets out every Afternoon, carrying Four Inside only; ',noises through %%ramjet:, Leamington, Nouthoin, Weedon, Dareittry, Stoney-St rat ford, and 'rowtester, to the %;aracen's Hear!, Bull-street, Birmingham, early the next Morning, at 'reduced Fares. The " Express," a New Light Post Coach, to HULL, Lin. coin, Northclive, Howden, and Doncaiter, every Morning at Eight **Clock, to the Cross Keys, Market-place, Hull; and also t h e " Rockingham" in the Afternoon at Two o'Clock. HFATFottr), Ware, Hoddesdon, and Clieshunt Coach, at•reduced Fares. TOTTF.NHAMand Edmonton Coaches daily, at Eleven, Malf-•past Two. Five, and F.ighto'clock. iv At Reduced Fates to Leeds, 'pound. and Do ncas t er , Luggage and Packages at only 4d per pound. S. .A..MO-UNTAIN and Co. respectfully acquaint then Yriends , eild the Pulrlic, that they will not be accountable for Any Parcels. Passengm's Lugga . ge, Writings. Plate, lie. of more than. Fire PoundeValtie, if lost, stolen, or damaged, „ a i m emceed as s uch, mill' the Insurance paid accord :4,oy, at th e swamp's Head inn, Skinner-street, %nova-hill, , Landon., WEST INDIA DOCK COMPANY. 'THE COURT of DIRECTORS of the - 51 - WEST INDIA DOCK COMPANY do hereby give No lice, that an EXTRAORDINARY COURT, or GENERAL ,MEETING, of the said COMPANY will be held at this House on TUESDAY, the 17th Instant, at One o'Clock in the Afternoon, pursuant to a Requisition signed by Nine Proprietors, agreeably to the Act of Parliament, to consider and determine upon the expediency of making certain re ductions in the rates at present payable to the Company. By Order of the Court, H. LONGLANDS, See. West India Dock House, S, ililliter-square, Julie 6, 1623. N.B. The Chair will be taken at Two o'Cloek precisely. SHIP-OWNERS' SOCIETY. New Broad-street, June 10, 1823. AT a SPECIAL MEETING of the VICE PRESIDENTS and COMMITTEE of the SHIP OWNERS' SOCIETY held this day, GEORGE LYALL, Esq. Chairman, Resolved Unanimously, That the Reciprocity of Duties Bill, now in progress through the House of Commons, appears to be fraught with consequences deeply affecting the Interests of British Shipping. Resolved Unanimously, That a GENERAL MEETING of SHIP-OWNERS be convened for MONDAY NEXT, the 16th Instant, to be held at the City of London Tavern, at Twelve for One o'Clock precisely, to take into consideration the measures proper to be adopted on this im COCK portant occasion. S. , Secretary. ALL Persons who have any Claim or Demand upon the Estate of MAJOR ALEXANDER MAC. DONALD, late of Richmond-street, in the Parish of Saint James, Westminster, in the County of Middlesex. ate forth with directed to lodge the same with Isis Executor, ALEX ANDER FRASER, Esq. Lincoln's Iwn Fields, with a view to nts immediate Settlement. A.TER EkCURSION, in AID of the SEAMEN'S HOSPITAL SOCIETY, under the Patronage of the following Noblemen and Gentlemen, viz. : The Right Hon. Lord Iris. W. Williams Esq. M.P. count Exmouth Thomas Reid, Esq. Sir John Lubbock, Bart. J. W. Buckle,, Esq. W. Taylor Money, Esq.M.P. John Blackburn, Esq. W. Manning,. Esq. M.P. The Proprietors of the EL,LIPSE STEAM PACKET having most liberally offered the gratuitous use of that Vessel fora Day's Excursion, on ‘VEDNESDAY, the 18th Instant, in Aid of the Funds of this Society. the Committee beg leave to invite the Subscribers and Friends of this valuable Institu tion to join the Party.—lt is intended to leave the Tower at Nine o'clock precisely, and to proceed up the Medway, to view his Majesty's Ships lying there, and return early in the Evening.—The Eclipse will stop at Ureenwich and Bls,ckwall on going and returning, for the convenience of the Passengers. The Steward wilt provide Refreshments, which may be had as usttal. 'ickets, 15s. each, to be had only of the Committee of Ma nagement, viz. : John Bla4 kett, Esq. Captain Bowles, R.N. Captain Sir Jahleel Brenton, R.N. K.C.B. Captain Edward P. Brenton, R.N. ,William Stanley Clarke, Esq. Harry Cook, Esq. John Deacon, Esq. Joseph Dowson, Jun. Esq. John Drinkald, Jun. Esq. Stewart Erskine, Esq. Charles Francis, Esq. And of the Sttreary, at the So, gate-street, next door to the Cii Lieut. I. E. Gordon, R.N. Captain Gooch, H.C.S. Captain Lochner, H.C.S. • Captain John Lo cke, H.C.S. Zachary Macaulay, Esq. Captain Philip Ripley Rev. Dr. Itudg e, F.R.S. James Soper, bag. Thomas Sturge, jun. Esq. Thomas Snodgrass, Esq. Venables, Esq. •Alder man Captain Win. Young, R.N. :lety's Office, N 0.19, Bishops ty of London Tavern: Tllg GRAVEL AND STONE, LUMBAGO. Sm. HICKMAN'S PILLS are allowed to be the most successful Preparation for effectually remoring and preventing the future recurrence of those Disorders which arise frosts fin imperfect action of the Urinary °runs, as Gravel and Stone, Lumbago, Pains in the Back and Loins, Suppression of &c. Composed of the most innocent ingredients, this truly valuable Medicine relieves the suffer• in.„: patient from the excruciating tortures of those , diseases without any siolence or injury to the Constitution, and se quires no confinement or restraint of diet during itt use. It. as one of the oldest Public Medicines extant : and its pecu• liar virtues and efficacy hare uniformly maintained the highest rentation. Sold in Boxes, at 41. $l.l. and 11s. by Butter's, Chemists, 4, Cheapside, St. Paul's. g9O, Regent-street (near the Argyle Rooms), London ; Waterloo plaer t Edinburgh ; Saekville street, (Dublin; and by the Yrineip ;I Venders throughout the United Kingdom. • Tim NAPOLEON MANUSCRIPTS.--The Second Livraison of this important publication, which is to appear in a few days, will contain, we understand, among many other subjects of great interest, the account of the Expedition to Egypt, and the policy of the French with respect to that country,—the Battle of the Nile,—Napoleon's Remarks on Maritime War, and on the Navies of France and England,—Narrative of the March of the French Army on Cairo,—the Battle of the Pyramids,— the taking of Cairo,—the Expedition of the French into Syria, —the Sieges of Jaffa and St. Jean d'Acre,—the Defeat of Mustapha Pacha at Aboukir, &c., interspersed with a variety of curious observations on the Religion, Laws, and Manners, of the Arabs, Egyptians, Turks; Syrians, &c. Tire miscel laneous part comprises—Remarks on the Campaigns of Alex ander, Hannibal, Caesar, Gustavus Adolphus, Turenne, Prince' Eugene, Frederic the Great, Charles XIL, and Napoleon; with a comparison between the passage of the Alps by the latter, in 1800, and that of Hannibal. Particulars of the Wars of Spain and Russia. The History and Examination of the Maritime Claims of England, and the opposition made to them at different periods by- France the United States, the Northern Powers, the Armed Neutrality of the Northern States,—the Battle of Copenhagen,—the Assassination of the Emperor Paul of Russia &c. Forty-four Notes on the Work, entitled Manuscript from St. Helena, and that of M. Fleury de Chi. boulon, &c. &c. A funeral sermon, on the occasion of the death of the lute T. CHESTER ' , Esq. of Dover, was preached at the Unitarian Baptist Chapel, ut that place, on the evening of Tuesday last, by the Rev. S. Noble, Minister of the New Jerusa lem Chapel, London ; the use of the chapel being granted for the purpose by permission of the members of it. The deceased was a disciple of Emanuel Swedenborg, and, front the singularity of their opinions, great interest was excited to hear the discourse of the Rev. Gentleman. The chapel, which is rather commodious, and will contain a great number, was crowded to excess long before the time fixed for the commencement of the service, and some hundreds went away disappointed who even came before the appoint ed hour. Air. Chester, it is said, has left the sum of 3,00.01. for the purpose of educating chil dren in the Swedenborgian principles. HOUSE. OF LORDS, Just IQ. The Duke of SOMERSET brought up the Report of the Committee on Weights and Measures: Lord DA CRE presented a petition from the Church wardens, Overseers, and Inhabitants of the Parish of St. Luke, praying their Lordships would be pleased to insert a clause in the Bill now before the House, by which the Marriages of Roman Catholics by the Clergy of their own persuasion might be ren dered legal. After some ohservations from his Lordship in favour of the prayer of the petition, it was read, and ordered to lie on the table. IRISH JOINT TENANCY. On the motion of the Marquis of LANsDowx, the Irish Joint Tenancy Bill went through a Committee. The Report to be received to-morrow. The Noble Marquis observed, in order to correct an erroneous opinion which prevailed both in this country and in Ireland, that the Bill did not take away auy.existing franchise whatever. IRISH GRAND JURY PRESENTMENTS. The Marquis of LANSDOWN moved the commitment of the Irish Grand Jury Presentment Bill. A similar bill had been under their Lordships' consideration last, year, and the present bill had been three months under discussion in the course of the present year ; and he was autlioriied to state, that the scale of salaries of clerks of the Crown and clerks of the peace was unanimously approved of at a meeting which took place, and Was attended by nearly all the Members of Parlia ment Ireland then in London. Those salaries were in lieu of fees for which the Grand Juries had usually presented, but without any view to the other duties of the officers; and under that system the most unequal remuneration had been awarded. In one instance under that system a clerk of the Peace had re ceived fees equal to the salary of the Lord Chief Justice of Ire land. He had a right to assume that the majority of the clerks of the pence were favourable to the bill, since a petition which had remained for signature three months had .only ten names attached to it ; but at all events their Lordships. would recol lect these emoluments were collected from the poorest class of persons of a poor country, and they would therefore look with a favourable eye on a measure which had for its object the relief of'that class. He had read with great attention the vari ous petitions, but he could find not a shadow of claim as for vested interest; there was indeed a mention of an ancient fee, which he was surprised to find on examination was taken under the act of 49th Geo. I l 1., so that it had scarcely a pre scription of 15 years, instead of being an " ancient fee," us it was called. The Earl of DONOUGHMORE referred to the message which was sent to the House of Commons when this Bill Mina up last year, in which their Lordships called for the informa tion upon which the Commons had passed the Bill. To that message the other House of Parliament gave no answer, upon the principle, he supposed, that their Lordships were not to venture any interference on a Bill In which money was men tioned. Their Lordships thought it that time that they had not sufficient information on which to legislate, and he would ask them what information they had since received. His Noble Friend (the Marquis of Lansdown) had indeed stated some things of which he had been informed, and inferences which he had drawn from them ;, but he (the Earl of Donoughmore) could assure him that they were directly , contrary to truth ; for if all the clerks of the peace could have been collected together, he was very sure the majority of them would have signed the Petition against the Bill. The Noble Marquis had alluded to the 4iith Geo. 111., as. if the fee to which he alluded was established by that Act, which was not the case : it was an ancient fee, and the Act only ascertained the mode in which it should be presented. The Noble Marquis had denied that the clerks of the peace had any vested intereeui at stake ; but he trusted that if he could satisfy hint that they had, he should have the benefit of the_ Noble Marquis's support for the object he had in view namely , a little further time, that the parties might be heard in.their own behalf. : The Noble Carl here read the opinion of Mr. Tindall, that the clerks of the peace " had an estate of freehold in their offices." All, he (the Earl of Donoughmore) wished was, that justice might be dope to the parties, as the Bill, if passed in its present stair, would be a Bill of Pains and Penalties. Ile could not Agree to extending to mere Bills of regulation like the present the principle claimed by the other House as to money bills, and ha would beg to ask his Noble Friend (the Marquis of Lanstlown) if the Bill of last year was so perfect, how it happened that.the salaries to the clerks of the Crown were in the present Bill ne ar ly doubled. I n the sche dule of the first Bill, the salaries of the clerks of the peace were the higher, as they ought to be ; f or t h e y had ten times the duty to petform. that the clerk s o f t h e Crown had. The Bill also, if passed in its present st a t e , wou ld ta l c e away the fees of the Sheriffs, without any.compensation whatefer. The Noble Earl said, that all he wanted was inquiry, and he hoped so reasonable a proposition wedded not be met by a dissent. Let them hear evidence lii a Committee, and then, after considering the just claims,pf the parties, decide upon a deliberate view of the whole case. He concluded by moving as an ementlinent, that the Bill be committed o n M onday next , and that the par ties be heard by Counsel in s u pp ort o f w h ist t h e y deemed to be their vested ri f ghts. . The Earl o LIMERICK said that the bill should have his support, as a measure of necessary reform. Lord LORTON spoke in favour of the amendment. The Earl of GOSFORD was in favour of the principle of the bill. He had the utmost desire to see the salaries of the officers placed upon an equitable footing. 'rile Marquis of LA NSDOWN said, that as the principle of the bill was generally admitted, he could not concur in the pro. priety of postponing it, although he had every disposition to give the parties concerned an opportunity of being heard on the sub. ject of their particular claims early in the ensuing session. The Earl of DONOUGIIMORE again contended against ' the propriety or justice of passi ng this bill without a previous inquiry. ' The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, that on this subject he must be governed by those who had the necessary local informa tion. He entirely concurred in the propriety of giving the ofß. cers fixed salaries, instead of leaving them dependent upon Grand Jury Presentments, A t the same time, he thought that if the parties set up a claim of vested rights, it was but reason. able to give them a hearing before the passing of this bill. Whatever hearing they g'ranted should be confined to the ques. tion of vested rights, and not extended to the general expedi ency, of the bill itself. The LORD CHANCELLOR approved of the amend ment, for the sole purpose of Allowing the parties to state their Case. Lord ItEI)ESDALE concurred in the opinion of his Noble and Learned Friend. After a few words from the Marquis of LANSDOWN, the Earl of DONOUGllmonz's amendment way agreed to. DISSENTERS' MARRIAGE BILL. The Marquis of LANSDOWN rose to move the second reading of the Dissenters' Marriage Bill, the object of which was to enable diaventers to have the marriage ceremony per formed in their own respective churches. For the reasons which he had stated, he felt the necessity of coupling this holy tie with a cermony of . a religious description, binding in the sight of God and man; and he thought, un l ess some state sciencesof that tre religious ceremony ifeeling and con. united. He might as . necessity ibe required othose v, i kind ,h t mosto t o were otherwise,about satisfactory to , he e to th sume, without fear of contradic tion, t hat toleration was the law of the hind. The only excep tion to that principle was, the am introduction when h eh t ofoutghe rt t e needhaanAi c ,pct l t were o io f' t b O a c o eae u i t eniil Conformity, at the m o . entering into that holy ti e; argue in that Louse, that no satis faction could arise to the state, that no ,benefit could 'accrue to the church, from any partial conformity of this descrip. tion. The measure .provided for the necessary publicity of marriage, and for the protec tion of the parties. All the Bill asked was, that individuals, after going thr oug h a ll the forms prescribed by law, and Paying those f ees w hi ch were essenti:cl to the Established Church, should then be p erm i tted, in the face of their own clergymen , and in the way most con . genial to their religious feeling s, to co n s ummate that holy ti e' and to have the marriage thus solemnized, registered as th e marriages of their fellow subjects were.. The Noble M arqu i s concluded, by moving t he martini reading oldie Bill. The LORD CHANCELLOR regretted that he was obliged to oppose the motion of the Noble Lord: but the very view which the Noble Lord himself took of it, justified him in call. ing_on their Lordship not tct,,malce so great an alteration as the Dill contemplated at so late a period of the session, The Bill was marked by a generality of 'provision, which showed the impossibility 01 carrying it into effect. eVitliough a firm to the Church of England, he thought he might say that be took as just a view of toleration as any Noble Lord in that House could do; but he could not-go the length to , which this Bill pointed. By this Bill, where a marriage took place between a . Catholic and a Protestant, the Pre twain was left entirely out of the question. The marriage must be by the Roman Catholic form, and no provision wax made for satisfying the scruples of the Protestant. The Bill was founded, it was said, on a tenderness for the religious prin. ciples of particular sects but If those principles led men to deny the proofs of Christianity, were they to lend themslves to an extended toleration of that sort ? To what would this Bill go ? It would enable persons to set up a place for the celebration of marriage in every, town and village throughout England (for they all knei how easy it was to procure a license under the Register Act), and that, not for individuals whose religious tenets were known, but it would introduce 3hanna Southcot's followers, together with ranters, jumpers, and various other sects, of whose principles they knew nothing. It went even- farther, for it gave protection to all those religiousopinions which might hereafter be prom u l gate d. The Bill, it might be said, could be amended : but he pressed on their Lordships to consider, whe ther they could, with propriety, at this period of the Session, set about amending a Bill, having for its object such mighty changes in the law of marriage ? It would be much wiser to give this Bill up, and to ha ve anot h er measure i ntro d uced early in the next Session. The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, he must give the Bill, as it now stood, his most decided negative, because it contained provisions to which he, tbr one, never could accede. The ob. ject oftfse Bill be, however, admitted to be necessary and ex pedient, to a certain extent. Ile, therefore,'Allrered from his Noble and Learned Friend, who wished the measure to be withdrawn altogether. Even at that late period of the Session, it might be sent to a Committee to inquire, whether a part of it might not be retained, if : th e o bj ect coul d not be effected by some other mode ; and certainly this measure did not appear to him to be the most advisable mode. The argument for the principle, or rather for the object of the Bill, was unanswer able ; he said unanswerable, after having recognized_ that prin ciple in the case of the Jews and Qu a k e r s . There were parts of the marriage-ceremony which they knew certain sects could not . conscientiously agree to ; and to say to those persons, " We will either force you to go through that cerem on y, or we will prevent you from entering into that state of life which is necessary for your happiness, and for the preservation of your virtue," could not be maintained as a just doctrine. Ile would not, however, grant relief by a measure which, like the present, was accompanied by all the inconveniences described by his Learned Friend, as well as by many others which he did not point out. He thought no difficulty could arise with respect to Roman Catholics, Quakers, and Jews • but. as to Dissenters, a certain portio n o f t h e service mig htl be omitted, if the Church did not object to it. There was one provision of the Bill which compelled the parties, not only where both u ere dissenters, but where either was a. dissenter, to be united according to the dissenting forms. Here was A, a member of the - Church of England, and B, a dissenter, about to be united. Now, was it unreasonable that the con science of each should be satisfied, by having the ceremony performed according t o t h e r i tes o f t h e two churches ? But, if the Bill were passed as it stood at present, they might be mar ried in any church, as dissenters, But A, could not have the rites of her own church. This was a priaciple so objectionable, that it could not stand. It would be a legislation against the church establishment. Another point of great importance was, that the parties should be Lona fide, and not nominal dissenters. Again, the provision with respect to the chapel or plce where marriages might be solemniz e d, ca ll e d f or revision. Under the present bill, marriages might be contracted in every alehoase. He would not, however, oppose the second reading and com mittal of the bill. The Archbishop of CANTERBURY heard with consider. able alarm the suggestion of the Noble Earl, with respect. to the marriage-service. It was the drat proposition ever made in that House to alter the liturgy of the katablisheci Church. And for what purpose ? for the purpose of accommodating those who were not of the Church of England —to accommodate sects who founded their faith and religious belief on private and unlearned interpretations of the Scripture. No man had a greater respect for toleration than he had. It was a proper and necessary thing. But the extent to which it should be allowed, was the business of the Legislature, and not of the Ilhiirch. Ile knew 'of nn other just limitation to toleration than that, which was laid down by the Legislature. The present Bill went beyond the point to which it should go, namely—that of giving relief to scruples of conscience. Underproper regulations, such rebel . might be giVen ; but this Bill went farther, and interfered with matters of discipline. The Bishop of WORCESTER admitted that the Bill, In its present state, was imperfect; but with all its imperfections it might be sent to 4 Committee, if it were only to show that the subject was deemed worthy of serious- consideration. lie con ceived that some relief Might be given; . but..what, lie would not take upon himself to say. With respect to w h at h a d f a ll en , from the Noble Earl (Liverpool), he had only thrown out a suggestion as to the marriage service, observing, at the same time, that it could not be carried into circa without the con currence of the Church, and even then he only spoke of omitting certain parts of the service In solemnizing the mar riage of Dissenters. Lord REDESDALE opposed the Bill—the principle of which, he observed, was nothing more nor less than to convert every place in this country, for which individuals chose to pro cure a license, into a Gretna-green. The Earl of lIARROWBY thought, the Bill went too f ar , anti concurred in the objections which had been urged against it by his Noble Friends. Ile thought, however, that it ought to be suffered to go to a Committee. The question could be there thoroughly considered, and a more unobjectionable Bill brought in next Session. Vie Bishop of .CHESTER put it to the Noble Marquis, whether it was proper to.. bring forward this Bill at so late a period of the Session, when many of the Bishops Were absent,. end others were going to discharge their ecclesiastical func tions ? Was it fitting that a Bill which materially affected the scruples and feelings of the clergy at large of the church of England should thus be inttoduced ? Ought not time to be given them tt, petition the House, if they deemed it necessary ? Be expressed his anxious hope that it would not be pressed at this period of the Session ; but that next Session the subject would receive that serious consideration which was most justly due to it. Lord CA LTHORPE said, sufficient had been stated to in duce their Lordships to go into a Committee on this Bill. He looked to the agitation of subject without the smallest appre hension ; because the more the just rights and privileges of the Church of England became the subject of consideration in Par 'lament, that Church wotild more strongly recommend itself t o the reason,undqstanding, respett, and affection of the country at large. H e thought neither the in terests of religion ,nor the interests of the church, called on them to f orce individuals to an apparent acquiescence in opinions, which, in their view, were repugnant to reason, and contrary to the Scriptur e . F or thi s reason , h e thought the Bill ought to be made the subj e c t o f th e i r .Lord ships deliberations in a Committee. He was not disposed to pledge himself to any of the provisions of the Bill; but, con sidering its principle, he could not avoid expressing this quell. tied approbation of it. The Bishop of LANDAFF observed, that the Legislature ought to be satisfied as to the partice who were to solemnize marriages under this Bill, and the forms that were to sae used. The Jews, Catholics, and Quakers, had marriage ceremonies, which were known ; but as to thegreat body of sectarians, they had no religious ceremony . of marriage, and would nut, perhaps, be willing to adopt any. which the Legi s l ature m i g h t i mpose on them. He did not think that the moral and religious interests of the community could be safe, if much a latitude were allowed as was proposed by this Bill. He admitted that this was a ques. tion which demanded consideration ; but it could'hot be decided oft' hand. He wished the Bill to be withdrawn for the present. Lord ELLENBOROUGH said, the real object of this Bill was to relieve religious scruples, and nothing else. The Right Reverend Prelate wined, that the moral and religious terests of the community would n ot be safe under the provi sions of this Bill. Now, he thought those interests were not much advanced by forcing persons, in despite of their religious scruples, to an occasional conformity.- The Right Reverend Pre.. late admitted that the subject demanded consideration. Why, then, would-he not go into a Committee, and se e whether the Bill could not be rend ere d satiefactory? With respect to the alteration of the liturgy, he doubted whether it could he effected, so as to include all dissenters, without doing that to which he had a moat serious objection—namely, , converting mer.. riage into a mere civil ceremony. . There were few things which gave him more pain that to see the Right Rev. Bench always thus intlispoied to give relief to tender consciences,--- What was required of the. Legislature by this Bill . was but very little; what the Legislature at present required of the' Dissenters was a very grievous obligation. He wished to see Noble Lords adhere to those liberal principles of legislatiop ; he was anxious to see th e 'Right Reverend Benoit adopt those ,principles which would reflect, much more honoureat threhoreh . . . of England than those which he had oaten occasion lo cate. Under these - circumstances, lie warmly, supported .'the second reading of the Bill. • • • ' The Earl of CARNARVON was anxious that the 1111 should go on to a Committee. it might them appear very ad visable to postpone the ultimate decision - on the measure win early day in the next Session ; but in the'mean time, by adopt' ing the course which he recommended, their Lord.ships would . next Session be much better prepared' to go into' the . discussion of this important question. • The Marquis of LANSDOWN, in ieply, said that f - e was under th'e necessity of dividing the House upon his motion ;• Had it not been for en apprehension very generally entertaineds that a proposition to substitute for the case of the Dissenter a different form of marriage, would have m e t w i t h o p pos i t i on from the Church of England, such a proposition would un doubtedly have been submitted. He was 'by no means dis posed to hurry the consideration of so important a measure as this ; but no other opportunity having occurred, he had been induced to bring it forward, at this late period of the session, in order that their Lordships might he enabled with as little loss of time as possible to conic to a decision. Prepared as he was to hear the Noble and Learned Lord . express his fears that the consideration of this matter would be hurried, he (Lord Lansdown) had been really disappointed---sceing that; under the existing law, : so large a portion of his Majesty's subjects must either act again s t th e ir own consc i ences or refrain from entering into this mast sacred connexion—that Noble Lords should refuie their assent to go into a Committee for the pur pose of ascertaining whether so grievous an evil admitted of no remedy. The Archbishop of CANTERBURY, in explanation, said, that his objections to the Bill applied sotto the doctrinal point], but to those which regarded discipline. Their Lordships then' divided on the Second Reading— Content, present - 151 Not content, present 15 Proxies - . U Proxies - 12 -C. Majority againh the Second Reading On our re-admission below the bar, we found The LORD CHANCE ! LLOR on his legs. His Lordship observed, on - the bringing up of the New ,Merviage Act Re port, that havin well considered this tneasur e , h e had pre pared a clause w hich he should be enabled to submit - to the House to-morrow. The further consideration of the Report was adjourned till to-morrow—Adjourned at Eight o'Clock.' HOUSE OF COMMONS. TRANS-VER OF SECURITIES (SCOTLAND) BILL. On the motion of Mr..liatxNEDr, this Bill was read a third time and passed. BRIMSTONE DUTIES BILL. This Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be commit. ted on Monday. THE ASSESSED TAXES COMPENSATION BILL. This Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be commit ted on Monday. POST-HORSES' DUTY BILL. Mr. BERRI ES moved the second reading.of the Bill. Mr. J. P. GRANT said, that if the lion. Gentleman per sisted in his motion, he should be under the necessity of oppes ingthe Bill, particularly th a t' c l ause o f i t w hi c h increased the duties on horses hired by the day. • • Mr. BERRIES defended the Bill. The Bill was then reads second time. Mr. DENMAN presented a petition from Liverpool, stating that the Grand Jury of Lancashire were generally confined to a stated number of individuals, and complaining of the general abOses attending the formation• of Grand Juries. The. Peti tioners further stated that they mainly attributed tbe.failure of some of the prosecutions occasioned by the affair of Manchester to the mode of nominating Grand Jurors. The petition played that the House would take the question with respect to the manner of constituting Grand Juries into consideration, with a view to the correction of the errors and abases growing .out of the present system. Mr. B. WILBRAHAM said, that he thought the House ought not to interfere with the right of the High Sheriff; so long exercised in the nomination of Grand Juries. Lord STANLEY said, that the mode of forming Grand Juries in Lancashire was precisely similar to the mode adopted In other counties. 41Ir. MIAMI'S said, that ho had no doubt but the facts stated in the petition were correct, that limitation of the Grand Juries of Lancashire he had reason w believe greatly partook of the nature of monopoly. It vas muc h to be lamented that the decisions of the (;rand Juries often gave any thing but :sails.; faction to the country. With respect to the Bills sent up against the Yeomanry of Manchester, it was to hint a matter of the utmost astonishment that the Grand Jury, with.the evi dence that' had been sent before them, should have thrown out those Hills. The system of nominating Grand Juries , he was decidedly of opinion, was one which the interests of public iustice required should undergo a thorough investigation. Mr. B..W11.1111.:1.11AM said, that the Gentleman who had served on Grand Juries in Lancashire were men of the highest honour and character. • MS. PHILLIPS said he did not throw any personal impu tation, but the cause of justice r equ i re d t h at the Grand Jury _ should be taken from a larger number of persons. Mr. PENMAN. said, that one of the statements of the pe tition was, that the number of persona who had served on the Grand Jury at Lancashire for the last twelve years did not amount to more than thirty-eight persons, whereas it ought to have been 183. The petition was ordered to lie on the table. • Lord JOHN RUSSELL presented a petition from the Free.masons of Ireland, praying that they might be exempted from the provisions of the Bill against Secret Societies. Mr. A BriRCROM BY said. he did not object to the peti.- tion ; but care'Should be taken that persons under the name of Freemasons should not assemble together; if care were not taken, thkwhole object of the Bill might be defeated. The petition was ordered to he printed. Mr. H. DRUMMOND said that he had received a Irtwr from Mr. 'lll'Gregor respecting some observations he had made in that House during the discussion of the motion dim Hon. and Leatned . Gentleman (111 i: AbercroMby). All he had to say was, that the observations he had made were exclusively founded on the documents on the table.--that he knew nothing of the case but from these documents. - ENGLISH ROMAN CATHOLICS. Dr. PIIILIAMORE presented a petition from the Catholic Bishop of London, *Praying that lungfish Roman Catholics might be placed on the same footing, with respect to marrying, with the Irish CatholicS. Lord NUGENT said, that the case of the English Catholics with respect to the restrictions on marriages was a hard one, and called for redress. Ile took that opportmtity (seeing that he could not with any convenience to the House bring forward the discussion of the Bill he had brought in respecting English Catholics on that evening) of stiting, that if the 'House would allow the Bill to b e read a second time proforma; he would pledge himself to give the fullest notice fur the discussion of the principle of the 13111 on the third readin g . Mr. 111 ONCK approv e d o f t h e remova l of the restrictions on the celebration o f l aw f u l marr i ages b y Catholic Priests. in some jps.titilies in London there were many thousand Roman Crithotes who married according to' the rites of their own reli gion; and whose children were consequently' in lei bastards, and burthens to the parishes where they were born; instead of being removeable with their parents. The petition was brought up and rend. It prayed that marriage by Catholic Priests in presence of two credible witnesses, after celebration of bans, might be lawful. Sir J. MACKINTOSH, said he had a petition to present from,t,lle parish officers of a larg e anti popultme district,tn co pluining of the b ur th en b roug h t upon them, and the injury to the country In general, in consequence' of the law rot4k ing the marriage of Roman Catholics, by their own clergy, unlawful. They represent' d the tlisregaill of *olorn" vows, .the abandonment of offspring, and the profligacy earl distress occasioned by this useless aid absurd low. 711 e petition was from the:Clturch waard , na, Overseers, and fitiardisul of , the Poor of the Parish t f St. Luke's s they stated that in their pariah. which contained forty thousand people" nlar o proportion of the populatian were Vaihnlicit, uativos Irt. land, who preferred to be truirried accordhig to the um** of ill, le i own religion anti country (for in Ireland such marriages rare lawful.) The children of all snot) marriages were in law her. i Lards; had no natural irtiardisiiii were ohineteati'a to the Ps isht from which they eouit notb removed with their pi t eet i u, , legally orphans from their their iritkincy, and* were exposed to the w a et i of seduction, anti to all - the guilt and itdaery consoquant oxl Anvil *, state, The Petitioners prayed for th e alteiation thiclaw, which alteration would tie tai emerald% o f i m eta ti„„ t , conferring the slightest degree of Poittieiti Power; Ha