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1.111 ) rIIA 1. P TZ L 14/1114 EN4: HOUSE OF PEERS, FRIDAY, JULY 5. Cotitaszt were beard in the Appeal Campbell and ethers against M'Nair and others.---Further proceedings wile postponed till Monday. Mr. ALEXANDER and several other Members of the , House' of Commons brought up a Message, stating, that it was contrary to their praetice to give their. Lordships 'a Copy of Evidence on which they had founded any Money Bill, and also brought up some Bills, which were read a first time. Toe Offieers' Bill, and the Corn Bill, Were read i third time and passed. , • On the question for going into 'a Committee on the Custom-liouse Fees' Abolition Bill, the Duke of NORFOLK presented a Petition from certain. Persons 'holding Patent Places against it. Lord IlAWKes‘ierßY moved to postpone further progress in the Bill until thiS:day se.'nnight ; which was agreed to. The Earl of Sofeotea made a few observations eelativ to Courts Martial, particularly with refer erica? to the case of Colonel Cochrane Johnston, in, timating his intention of bringing forward the sub , aeCt.next Session., The LORD CHAN Cniton said a few words respe6t iiig Trotter's Indemnlty Bill, as,to the necessity of their Lordships' having information .With respe& to the grounds of the Bill. The Marquis of BUCKINGHAM presented a Peti tion from certain Persons stating themselves to ,be the, authorized Agents of the House of. Keys of the Isle of Man against the Bill; which was ordered to lie on the Table. • The Earl of Ranetort moved, that the Message from the Commons should be taken into consider ation on Tuesdey, and that the Lords be summoned for that day, which was ordered. In a Committee on the Smuggling Dill, Mr. PLO ma was partly heard on behalf of the Island of. Guernsey against the Bill ; after which, the further hearing of Counsel was postponed till to-morrow. Mr. ATAXANprAt and several other Members of the floiree of Cemineos brought up Trotter's In demnity Bill, and come other Bilhi; :\vhich were read 'a first time ; and the Bill for continuing till, next SLecion the proceedings relative to Mr. justice Fox, which Was re:timed, agreed to. DUKE OF ATiIOLL. The LORD CHANCEL /140/7 called 'the at teetioo of the House to the Message receivid from the Commoti in answer to the Message sent, by their Lordships requesting the: commons Would corn onuicate the, E videre:ie on which they had founded tile . Duke of Atholl's Compensation Bill. His Lord Ship to a precedent in the year I 70, whell upon e Bill hr ice brought to Lords, air vesting a el m o f ikiettey ie Commissioners for the Requelion aMessage was sent to the Com et, tea ne t eeating the information upon which they raided felt The. Answer that they sent was, that tbC." Clll l / 4 1 itOt communicate : information of that deoir;pt ion unless it was the shape of'evi denee of et ate contained in the allegations ofahe Bill. `fide ,;eamed . to po;et out a method of gaining infer ination as to farts contained in my Bill presented to the House lean the Commons; and it was remaile able, that only ten days ago, when their Lordships tient' '24essage to the Commons, rat - lee:sting the informatien on which they fOunded Mr. Pitts In.- &inniv hill it was communicated without the least Objec.tion. Ile tl)eTei'.ire, had a right to presume * in the tespet to the Duke of AtitOW. , tao (.',;b3eCtion would bernaie by the Comineeeto communicating the e.-idence relative to the . faEts stated in• that As the Commons, however, bad refuted to corimemicate that informar tiori, hethreight it his duty to call then' Lordship' ettention ID the 6ubjea, and fte intended shortly to stllarntt f;once proposition relative to it to the House. The ;Oeke o IVO.R.FOLE: expressed his aatisfac tien at tins subjeit Imiog beeft taken tip by: the Nob!e,and.Learned Lord, and wiShed to know whe thailt was the intention of the friends of the . Bill to pries the, nutter forward, dureer thep,resent Sas!. W e, midair the diffeaahles with , which they were 'The Duke of MONTROS4; said, it 'ORS . c ertainly the :eieelitioo .of the friends of the Bill to press'the snlaJte.:t, as far as related to ahem, dnring the present Session. . Led lieeseatan thought the more dignified mode piOceedieg would have been for their leedships to 114VC e.r.warined. evidence relative to this subject at their craei bar, instead of tendin g t o the Commons for eciTence.. Lord Hewatesettay observed., that 'the present diacuSsion had nothing 1.6 do with the Bill, but merelyrelated to a Question of Pilvilege, as to how far their Lordships should p.equiesee in the Message seat from the Commons. lie did not cone.eive that, any delay ,was in consequence , necessary in the,pro :' gress of the Bill, as the inforniation which the Cemi rnons had reinsed had been moved for in another sltattt) . price.:iing evening by a Noble Earl (Wiewaaaoaeatat)) and would shortly be befbre the I„iouse. . L , eel iIoLLANt) and the LORD ' CILiNCELLOR • planted. vac, otbEl Bills en the 'Table were forwarded.in their reteezaiVe Stages.. - Adjourned till.to-Morrow (this day.). HOUSE OF COALIIONS, FRIDAY, JULY jr. D c ",:xvt, from the Commissioner; of F • Anse, i, presente(l Accounts of IL4ances remaining in ilia liiiikU"Cif7.ho, Receiver-General of Excise, .at various periods from the stll of Luniary, 1793, to, the sth ot-APril last, inclusive. —Ordered to he printed,' Ir. STAvELLY, from the Pos ud s ocf t-f-liceth, presente ce d an A cco unt of Balanc.:s in the hae Iteivei. general of the Post-Office ; which was ordered to Ix; rind On the -T.yfotion of Mr. TVANSTITART, the COM.. raittke oil the Irish Revenue JariAliClio.t the l, and the farther consideration of the Report uf Cot- Itittet: on the Irillh Port Ditty Bill, were pi,tponed to th:s day thrz..e At)iiths. Mr. 0101SOrY brot4ot. up the R?port of - the Corn- Ittittee on tne Petition from Collier, and ' cther3, Freeltoiders of :,li:idlekx, praying for eurivemation f or 1 05$ of Cup.t: i).l attending tiv., Committee on the •••..,1,4-14,•A Si l' 1...ir MidClieqet.—ardnrd to t:: A lkftsgage from the Lords intimated th sr concurreuce its the Bill for prchl:si::: in Palace-yard, the Dublin Harbi)ur Bill, the Militia Officers Bill, and the corn Im port and Export Regulation Bill, Mr. FOWLER, from the - fax-OE5m presentea an Account of the Expellees incurred fo Officers and Commissioners under the A6t for the Redemption of the Land 'Fax, from the sth of Inivary, 1804, to the sth of January, tBO5. Oli tht: Motion of Mr. VANSITTART, the Irish Distillery Bill, the Irish Paper Duty Bill, and the Irish Hearth Duty Bill, were read a third time and passed. LORD MELVILLE. On the Motion ofMr.WHIT3READ, the Proceed. ings, on the third reading of the Witnesses' Indern. pity Bill were resumed. • Sir W ./4LFORD introduced an Amendment, in circler to put the Witnesses in such a situation, that without any apprehensions of the consequences to themselves in furaisLiug matter for civil proceed. ings, they might give such free evidence in sup. part of the Impeachment against Lord Melville as would further the ends of substantial. justice. AOQ. ther advantage which he propmed by this Amend ment was, to shorten the proceedings in the House of Lords, in which considerabhe time had ben usu ally wasted in listeniug to thy objeatons mAie by witnesses to the questit;its proposed to them.. Lord H. PETTY,, although he dicj pc.t ineao to oppose the Amendment .of the Hon, liarot:ot, and although no one was ;pore willing than himself to admit that the house ought to go to the trial of Lord Melville surrounded by as few embarrassing circumstances as possible,. , yel thought the sacrific6 they.were called Upon to mal;e was so great, and felt so much retudance to allow the nece. ? ;sity of the Measure, that he suggested to the Lion. Baronet the introduCtion of some words in. his Amendment, to slew that the House agreed to it on account of the importance of tlici ,Occasion, and that they did not recognize the principle that a person should not give evidence on a criminal pro , ccution without be ing previously relieved from any possible subsequent eivil'proceedings ; principle which would be at tended with serious danger, and which might to be left to the formal argument and consideration of those who, by their legal habits, were best qualified to discuss it. , The C/MNCEZ,LOR of the EXCIVEQUER agreed with the Noble Lord in his observation on the danger of universally admittiag this principle, but remarked, that the .words of the Anteadment not only conveyed no positive opinion in favour of that principle, but that the inference to ife drawn from them wit:; the reverse. _ After a few Words from Mr. Gim:sandMr. STUR GES BUURNR, Sir W. lit.rogn's ~,auendment was agreed • t o. On the question that this Bill do pass. Lord ,DE BLAQUIEPE submitted to the lion. Gentleman opposite, whether or not.it would be ho nourable in the in the progress of the Im peachment against . Lord Melville, to avail them-. selves of any thing that might have dront.d from that Noble Lord when he made his defence in the House. lie made wine (:bservations on the Proviso of the Bill, in Which it stated that the Witnesses should not benefit from the Indenmi,ty, unless they gaVe full 'and fair evidence of all they knew on the subject. Of this, 'who was to he the judge ? ,He understood Mr. Trotter was a very nervous Gentle man, and ,at the exarnin at i ons telbre the' CoMmittee of Impeachment, had appeamd much . agitated. and terrified. Was it not'possible that 'his alarm might cause him to suppress matter tending to justify as well as to. criminate his Ma:;ter, Lord Melville ? And then,what would be the consequence if he should after*nds recollect circnmstctrices of importance ? The Noble Lord avowed, and said he did not blush to, avow,' that eventually it would be found, Lord Melville had been already more severely punished than his delinquency merited. lie doubted, how ever, whether this Bill would put Mr. Trotter in a situation to.give impartial evidence on the Trial, and .he'very Much ‘vislied that antic The SPRAKIIn here interposed, .observing, tint the time for introdueing amendments was gone by, and that the Noble Lord was out of order, unless he meant to argue agoinst the whole Bill. Mr. WHITBREAD observed, that this Bill would only indemnify Mr. Trotter in case he declared the truth, the *hole truth, and nothing but . the trail:— I:le would be equally li:thle to lose the advantages of it, therefore, if he concealed circumstances prejudi cial to, or exculpating 4)f, Lord Melville.. Should any, thing favourable to Lord Melville occur to, Mr. Trotter's, reeolleaioiv I)efore the, commencement of the' Trial, he would coiiaccluentlybebound to declare it. Mr. JOHNSTONE, hOwever painful it was to him to differ from_ the lion. Gentleman by whom the Bill was. introdmedi must declare: his disappro, hation of it, as Proceeding, (gra principle of justice of which he could by no means admit. There was b ut a single precedent, that of Lord Mae desfield, that bore my semblance to this cif: e, and that he thought' - by no means bore upon it in every part, fur this reason, that thong!' the Ma.itf:rs in Chancery and Lord Macclesfield Were participaters 'in the same crime, yet that the guilt of the Masters in, Chan cery was infinitely less than that of Lord Maccles , field, whereas in the present instance, although the mar >1 guilt 'of Lord certandy preponde irated, yet, that on the question of participation (which was that to be submitted to the decision of the lAirds) he was only an accessary. In his opi nion i t would bra always better to let to criminal escape withont-pialislitnent,, thati, to adopt- legishi tive pro Visions lc,r d e um)yss purpose of bringittg . dov.n pu:iishnicat upon hitl.t. Tlit! then passed.. -. Mr. Sio.kr moved that an humble .Address be presented ti.; Mojt.sty,-praying that he would be gracioul., pleased to order such remuneration as he should Ili to be made to Edward COlemati,Esq . . , late Serjeant at Arms, fur his long anti. faithful ser . vices in the discharge of the ditties of his offiCei: and assuring His Mfje:. , ty that ti.mt House would provide for malting good the same. • After a leyk' words 'from i\lr. 7ti.FAZI4I, who ex pleasure- vihich he kit in seconding a pressed the proposition that tended to reward the teal and. ticit. lity . of the Gentleman in grettt on, the Motion was agreed to, nentorem?tradicente. The So;.:thern Whale Fishery Pill was, on the Motion of I.%iig read a tt: 14.4 - to Monday.' 4 , 11 li i are tflry, thin we are 1.-Impelled by y room, to ddir Ike Litir elgned " A SAli.oa," 111.4 day, MAILS. Agit %VW D-1 Dublin, I Waterford. liambtirth, Gotter.blirgit, t Lisbon, t Dubliti s I `Waterford. PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT TWILVE O'CLOCK. Consnis 58 ex, div, I Red. Ann. 591 I'HE SUN. SOLV4 QUIS .DICSAL FALSVM AUDIT P LONDON, SATURDAY, JULY 6, 1805. are sorry we have it not in our *Aver fully to confirm the report which was circulated yesterday evening, of Dispatches having been received at the Admiralty, stating, that 'Lord NELSON was in sight of the French Fleet off Martinico.—.ln point of faa no such Dispatches have been received ;butwe will state to our Readers the authority upon which the rem rests, which will enable them to decide what degree of credit they will give to it. Ye4,terday Mr, D. Gamy, Member for Helston, in Corpwall, roceived a Letter from that County, Stating . that Cart. I.lAss, of 010 Gannet, cruizing off the Land's 13;nd, had sent a boat on shore to say, that he had fallen in with a vessel from theAVest In dies, the Master t:lf which informed him, that when he passed Martinique Lord NELSON wag in sight of the French Fleet off that Island, *No letters from Captain BAss, nor any other confirmation of the above report, has been received; we are therefore, however reluctantly, compelled to express our doubts of its accuracy. But although_ we cannet confirm the intelligence of Lord NELSON being actually in' sight of the French Fleet, we can state positively that no doubt ' whatever is entertained, by those who are the best qualified to forth a judgtnent upon the subjeCt, that his Lordship would reteli Barbadoe,s . on or before the 4th of .Yuue, .because the most authentic intel ligence has been received that Lord NELso passei. 20 leagues to the eastVard'of Madeira on the 15th of May, under a heavy press of sail.--- , We there fore entertain the most sanguine hopes that lii4 Lord ship will arrive time enough in the West Indies not only to frustrate the intended operations of the, 14:pezny, but to prevent their escaping, again to Europe, . which we have no doubt they will at .tempt to do. The report of the capture of Trinidad still con tinues to be circulated, and by many commercial men of the first yespeCtability it is believed. We have already stated', upon the StTUllipt grounds, that the rumour of Trinidad having been taken by the Combined Fleet, previous to their arrival at Marti nique, was. wholly destitute of fonndation. If, however, it . be true that that Island, is talcen, it . must either have been by , one 'Spanish and One French Ship of the . Line, which separated from the Cori bined Fleet, because eve:y other Ship Which sailed from Cadiz on the 10th of April 'pissed the Diamond Rock on the 14th of May, on their way to Fort Royal, and, beyond all doubt were never near to Trinidad previous to that time; or else the Combined Fleet must have commenced . their operations subsequent to the 25th of May by an attack upon that Island. We can assert positively, that no intelligence . to that effea has reached this Cot ntry . direaly from the West Indies, because the last accounts, both public and private, concur in stating the Combined Fleet to have remained quiet in Fort Royal. I/arbour. The report was originally founded ripen the . Paragraphs in the French Papers, which could net, . from the' dates, be, true; but it certainly has received additional strength from Letters wikh were yesterday'received from AntWerp, which state, that the Combined ' Fleet sailed on the Ist of June, and that it arrived' at, and captured the Island of Trinidad, on the 3d, and that 'an ibis° was immediately dispatched, which arrived with the in tellig,ence at Vigo; .in Spain. Though we cannot so positively contradiCt this stAtement as we did that in the T're'nch Papers, yet we think it highly improbable. Wherk . we consider the 'di s tance between Martiinico and Trinidad,. it :is 4hrio::t absurd to suppose that the Combined Fleet could have:sailed from the one Island to the other„Made the neteisary disposition for land ing,' and have taken pois'eSsion of the latter in two thiy - s. •On Other hank it seems eqUally imprebable' that the tsvo , ShipSWhichseparated from the Combined Fleet, - mild - have carried 'a suflicipnt Muriber of Land .Forces to take Trinidad, which we know. was .in a , most respeCtable state of defence.!--- We trust, however, that a few days : will not only putan end to all doubt upon the subjeCt, bUt bring us the gratifying intelligence of a decisive Victory over the Naval Force of the Enemy. , , L'Espoir Sloop of War, from St. Helena, is ar rived at Pottstnputh, by which we have received the fvliewing intelligence EtTEACT OP A LETTER nom ST. HELENrA, DATED, 10TII O MAX. " The iictZiatsr Mall of '\Var, and the Trarrelz. Hastngs Indianian, from Po7tsmt.uth, arrivd o n the 24 of May. Tht; Chi na Fleet are bond,' expeantion of being d is p atched for Eng.:nidynA. convoy of the Mediator. " We have had no ar rivals of late from Ir.dia, rot any Whalers. Th e Coromandel, front B o tany Bq an d China, is reported to be taken and carried ;,,to the Mauritius." i cr r The Jamaica Flee t are arrived in the ' lj ' Two of them are said to have run is= ion 510' Q 5 Crooked Island, and some others are rnng. inuounco t° WE. yesterday stopped the P r ess to 11, the Public an event w hich has been for some time expeBed, his Office of President of the Council. We Ada violate viz. the resignation by Lord Stotorrit of the principles which we have ways Fro, fessed, and upon which we have always a6tc if we were to express any regret upOn this occasion.' We are_ fully sensibl e of the necessity of a ; but strong efficient Administra tion at this junotnre we ere convinced that Admini•;tratioa will lo se nothing in point of strength --certainly in point of vigour and efficiency --by . the re ' t nation of the Noble Lord. Indeed the weve,,,1610 undecided, hollow support which the Noble and his Friends have given to Administration, 0" tended much more `to weaken than to streeen it' It has been stated, . for purposes too obvious V11)1 mistaken, that the condua of Lord SlDgettirg 07. those wile aa with him on the business of Lord MELeit,LE was the sole cause of the diii.erences tepir4 slstlng between Mr. PITT and his Lordship ;. te t '' assertion we can give the most decided NllollBl°ll' tion, not' onlynothing although it certainly is true that their 0 0 1: , bringing forward's Motion fora Critniol I'r I'. without any n .. revious concert ‘l l O i Ministers, but ev en -without the slightest iatie':l:°;n3 of any such intention, ma y have geoleratee titli event Wilk!' has just taken place. Wiwthertoo Administration from any ,Pthvr Resignation'will lead to any acCeesi an 01. sqell not at present take upvn ourselos to (10410 : I I : in certainly will nxiove one great obstacle, ta s u ' i ' o f union as that to which we alindo• T he ' .1 , 1. t b. BtYcxwonkf,ts.sitas has also resigued his see 1 ' 4 .0 . Cabinet. It is yet dOubtfill Wht:tlier Mr. " D fo r TART will 'resign his Office of Chief s,2,,reorY, ; Li te 4ll ' quartdr, We c:il it it Ireland. but it ' will probably be dcletra.''' or as that Gentleman went this morning; t':' i'' ) oc a "Inn's, at Richmond, to consult 0 11 11 ` 11` the subject. crYste:rsist°:::llvkelld onNt Yesterdayse.;.neonrn°in'tTe Terrace. t s b n H t af for wilosor si, is ..:...N,SESTY returned 'torn_ ritio, cigloirikl,ss, ooni.,:ftselr:loirlic_ll;:7:o: A FAir c_ F." 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In consequence of Fits At.i..l; .)4Alirgilv gave 'directions aditsoretHNsb'etellio. nLisisotpotltieetaill;socrlosupnricvtee;loilif:i';o,l;ll:l:4;:r,,,jfi°lritsci:.:s: 'tirheesrtzr.dsvayas, s th to e t those ''''''- e drertinStances in future. His Aa'l,.."' m 050.,„ in consequence communicated /11,51.0:epefio commands to ;fr. Biowsi,D, pped.for the first time. .:11100,ift:i to undergo considerable alterations.i l!.'`'l),,,ceo,_, to be .filled. up ; the bareen parts at: T . iorreiti with fresh turfs ; the who to be D.,11,"ta h ; ,it f 0 and to be kept in guni order, 9110..4,:i tt , e roaa near Payswater-wall Bottetrrowl i T c. : 0 000: or prate of. exetrileeisiL3 11,i.e5c';11., 'be left for the enjoyment of th.,1311 ./:: po0!00,, non e the visitors at • r, Nl' M .l ! ci„.oo, 110,, cent nodurnatfete was a orgerat.:l:l.4 ~, the f .. , in his anxiety to see all the. wondo v.:,,,tch ili!, happened to go a little beyona. ~1.°.1;e1), J o o ` re / 4c4dian illuminations; Oa tilli)riiis' „e,lie,,i!):‘,(o into a culd-1 - at h, Sotwitivital"til'6 t i t i 40 1 '7; cif' so lustily for relieG that the go,.' ~ i30„,,.{..1,,,, di too much terrified to hasten to the • I),' ,. ' t .., eflek.:',llq, but der his release from the u1tu.,i,;;ci0,),),. P his adventurous curiosity, the :Icc;itec„,aco. ,_,,, p o t heightened the general mirth of L i 0 1' 0 p,.loo, l r e op We are given to understand th,c,aitittleort,a „;,f• an entirely nevi National Sp%!:Liicic:: ;it t ile ii l 'i te e &4. will make its first appeal Li,i:dinired !,.'7'1,1,0, eus, in ,addition to that groOr 'the i,e,:.., 'n,,,,,V... ImOgen, Princess of 13riwi3 ;„ ..,.5,,,t 1., guinade of a NiOittir Ti.'.; the I! ' , 0 ,, • • r, , , .. e' ,t -he vo, EtineE•.rian, :‘l..ticeen ; 1.10,-&-- - , , r et Vii S 5 k° tl) ' very extraordinary 1110.--) ' .. w ill Dance of . the Coat and fiacige, ..,ra„,,„, that evening be, cornpletely vLit,io . ~.....•..'