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DIPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS-WEDNESDAY. ORDERS IN COUNCIL. About-half-past two o'clock,: their Lordships', - after forwarding the Bills upon the table, resolved into a Committee on this subject, Lord WA:. - SINGHAM in the Chair. • Three witnesses were examined at considerable length, by several of their Lordships, viz. Messrs. McKenzie, King, and Baker. Pending the examination, the. House resumed for a short time, and in that interval, It Was ordered, on the motion ofLord .ERSKINE, that the further consideration of the Case of the - Banbury Peerage; which stood for to-morrow in the Committee of Privileges, should be postponed - until that day se'nnight, in order to give the Judges an opportunity, as his Lordship observed, of answering certain queries which 'had been re ' ferred to them. The Earl of LAUDERDALE moved for an Account cf the Number of British Ships which had sailed froth the Port of Liverpool for America, from the 23d of June, 1810, to the 23d of February, 1812 ; end also for an Account of the Quantity and Va lue of all Colonial Produce imported into Liver pool during the same period: which were accord iney ordered to be laid before the House. • - A Message was brought up from the Commons by Mr. Lushington, and other Gentlemen, im porting, that they, had granted leave to one of their Members, Joseph Marryatt, Esq. to be ex amined before their Lordships' Committee on the Orders in Council.. A Private Bill was brought up by Sir James Graham, and read a first time. Their Lordships then again resolved into the ' • - Committee - --anci - havin , finished the exa.mina :tons:for the day, the-douse again resumed. INSOLVENT DEBTORS' BILL.' On the • occasion of the second reading of the • tnglish and Irish Insolvent Debtors' Bills, A short conversation, in an under tone of Voice, took place between the'Earls of MotaA and LAU tERDALE, and the Loan CHANCELLOR. The first-mentioned Peer, after adverting to the great improbability there was. of their being 41 ble to get through - a general Bill upon the sub ject this Session, suggested the propriety. of ex tending the amount of debt to which - the measure 4 hould attach, beyond what was proposed in the and last year ;. which was, be believed, *63000. Indeed there were cases in which the amount should be unlimited, always keeping in Flew the nature and circumstances of the debt. ate was, therefore, friendly to the Tinciple of a g 'onsiderable' extension of the sum to which the till should reach. The LORD CHANCELLOR took the opportunity °f declaring his full assent to the measure of a temporary Insolvent Debtors' Bill passing this bession ; and, as to what his Noble Friend.threw out as to the propriety of a considerable extension of the sum, he was of opinion that such a princi-' Ple may be beneficially adduced into that part of tile law. • The Bill was then read a second time, and their Lordships adjourned for a short time during plea !Lire, with reference to zn expectation, as we Akoderstood, of some interesting proceeding taking On the Loan CHANCELLOR again taking his seat o n the woolsack— The Edinburgh Police Bill was reported to the - Mouse without amendment ; and, on the motion 1 )1 the Duke of ATHOLL, ordered to be read a third time on Friday. arl STANHOPE expressed his. regret that cir "tumstances should oblige him , i)g,ain to posii_pone Ihe further consideration of a measure of great ' i mportance, p ar ti cu l ar ly t o the. poor of Ireland. 41 2 meant the' Tenants and Peasantry Bill. The ~ ramittee on which he moved should be adjourn- Id from Friday till Tuesday next, which was or dered accordingly, and their Lordships to busum koned far that day. • Adjourned till to-morrow. HOUSE OF COMMONS, JUNE 10. Mr. N. V ANSI T TART t oo k th e oa th s an d hi s sea t Dr''4:East Grinstead, On the motion. of Mr. O'HARA, the Chancellor t'f the Exchequer (Mr. Vansittart) was ,added to the Irish Finance Committee. On the motion of the CHAN'CELLOR of the Ex `Kean' RR-, Mr. O'Hara was added to .the Irish Fi /3anee Committee. Sir J. NEWPORT eNpressed his satisfaction at ese additions.to the Committee.: It was a mat ter of deep regret, that from the commencement ° I the Session to the present hour, not a single ste p had been taken by the Committee ; but he tr usted i that great diligence would be used during t ie short remainder of the Session. The CHANCELLOR Of the EXCHEQUER obser ve d , th at inevitable unforeseen and unfortun a t e occur rences had prevented the progress of the Irish Fi anee Committee: He was- sure the Hon. Ba f%et would do him the justice to allow, that he one had always been in attendance on the ° uuflittee. • Sir J. NEWPORT by 'no means intended to im-• pa te blame to any individual for neglect. The in his opinion, was in the original constitu -°„11 of the Committee. th 4 r. ROBERT WARD brought up an Account of Expences of the Ordnance Office, for the year 11 . --Ordered to be printed. t o the mo ti o n of Mr. C OURTENAY , the Chan edOr of the. Exchequer was added to the Corn- Ill ittee on the Civil List. °R the motion of. Mr. R. P. CAREW, the report 4 7 t he Highway Bills was taken into further con deration.—The Bill was recommitted. i n In the C omm itt e e, a l ong di scuss i on ' ensue d, which Mr. Sumner, Mr. Sinclair, Admiral jk i a ,"eY, Colonel Bastard, Mr. P.: Giddy, Lord k itt ° ll , Mr. George Vansittart, Mr.. R. Carew, kr. Horner, Sir J. Newport, Mr.- Brougham, ri r • C 4 Adams, &c. participated, arose on the va to°:ls clauses, Particularly on that which related I, she prevention of the practice of planting forest Ees by the side of.the high roads. Eventually, re day. the Irmti on o f M r . -B roug h am , th e Ch a i rman te°rted progress, an 1 obtained leave to sit again 14 . ~~4' The CHANMLLOR of the •EXCHEQUER. gave tice, that in the Committee.`of Supply on Friday net, he, would move the Army Extraordinaries, and the remaining miscellaneous services. Mr. CANNING, adverting to the conversation which had taken place yesterday in his absence respecting the various notices hefore the House, observed, that if it were thought peculiarly con venient to bring forward on Thursday, the dis cussion on the Orders in Council, he would hare no objection to Withdraw his notice of a motion respecting Catholic Emancipation which stood for that day, provided be could have a prior opportu nity of submitting it to the consideration of the House. If an Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr., Whitbread), would give 'up Wednesday, the day at present fixed for the consideration of the To leration Act, he (Mr. C.) would on that day bring forward the Catholic questicin. :But he could not consent to 'postpone the discussion of so impor tant a subject fur a whole week. Mr. SPEAKER called the attention of the House to the proposition. about to be made. It was the established usage of Parliament not. to accelerate any notice which had been given for a particular day. - Mr. CANNING observed, that his sole object was accommodation. Mr. WYNNE• objected to any rigorous interpre tation of tke usage of the House with respect to notices. Lord CASTLEREAGH allowed that the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Canning) had an abstract right to fix his notice for what day he chose, or even to make his motion without notice, but he believed it was the last • right which any Member of that House would be disposed to exercise.. If the Right. Hon. Gentleman brought forward his : mo tion a day earlier than that originally fixed, many Members might be prevented from giving their opinions upon if. The Right Hon. Gentleman was perfectly entitled to Thursday for his motion, and he recommended the Honourable and Learn ed Gentleman (Mr. Brougham) to wave his mo tion respecting the Orders in Council which stood for that day. If, however, such- an arrangement could not :be accomplished, at least the Right Hon. Gentleman might bring forward his motion on Friday or Monday. Mr. Wina7attEAD having been called upon in the first instance by the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Canning), allowed that he should not be prepared to agitate the subject of the- Toleration Act on Wednesday, hut trusted the Right Hon. Gentle man would not bring forward the Catholic Ques don on that day , as it would immediately precede the Orders in Council. His Hon. and Learned - Friend had been induced to postpone his . motion until that day, o a the pressing remonstrances of the Noble Lord and the Vice-President of the Board of Trade Mild unquestionably it was of the utmost national consequence, that not a single further day should' be lost in discus Sing a subject of such great nation Al importance. If any thing were wanting to strengthen this impression on his mind, it would be -,the Petition which he had yesterday presented from , a number of M erc h a nt and Manufacturers now itn London, deprecating all delay. He hoped the Right Mu. Gentleman would be induced to wave as nr - ;,ioe for Thurs day, and to fix it for Monday Mr." BROUGHAM stated; quenee of the earnest rep“ . ~`_it:. . c Noble Lord and his Colleagw2;, • who sat with the Noble Lord on that 3 he had been i n d uce d to postporic Tuesday, the day on which it was h , Vi6h to king it on. _ Mr. CANNING, having formerly Aiven way to the Orders in Council, which now preceded him, expressed his determination to adhere to his no ticefor Thursday. • . _ Mr. BROUGHAM then withdrew his motion for Thursday, with a view of substituting a notice for Tuesday, in conformity to his orighlai in tention. Lord CASTLEREAGH remonstrated againi_tt this proceeding which, to the other difficulties - ef the case, would add the serious one, that a numb er' of Members who wished to be present at the dis cus sion of the Orders in ,Council, had gone out of town, misled by the notion that that discUssien would not come on before Thursday at soonest.— A decision of such moment, under such circum stances, would not be very honourable, nor could it 'carry great weight with it. Lora MILTON contended that there was ample time before Tuesday to. enable Members •to pre pare themselves for the discussion,' Mr. BATHURST objected to the acceleratio n of notices. Mr. CANNING stated, as an additional reason for not postponing the discussion of the Catholic Question, the necessary absence in a short period of most of the Irish Members. Ultimately it was understood that Mr. Brougham's Aiotion was to take place on Tuesday, and Mr. Canning's on Thursday next. THE CATHOLIC QUESTION. Mr. SPENCER STANHOPE wished' to ask the No ble Lor.d below him, what was the nature of th e policy which the present Cabinet intended to pursue with respect to the question of Catholic Emancipation ? Lord CASTI,EREACH replied, that in some re spects he had a difficulty in answering the ques tion of the Hon. Gentleman, referring as that question did to the. intended policy of Cabinet not yet completely arranged. This, however, was, perhaps, more a difficulty in point of form -than any thing else, and he had no hesitation in replying to the spirit of the Hon. Gentleman's in terrogatory, as far as his intercourse with the Administration now forming, would - enable him to do SCi. It certainly was the opinion of the late Administration, and even of those Members of it who were most thvourable to the Catholic Claims —that, considering all the circumstances of tho case, taking also into the account the sense re peatedly expressed by Varliament on the subject ; whatever appearances of opinion udght exist with respect to the expediency or inexpediency of those claims, for variotts reasons, the question' could not,-during any late period, have been with pro priety discussed ; and that even any consideration of it would have tended to disturb rather than to conciliate the Empire. He felt himself justified instating,. that it was.not likely, when the new Administration should be completely formed, that. they would be disposed to make resistknce or con cession to the Catholic Clams a GOverniiient question, or that they-would deprive the indivi duals composing the Government, of perfect li berty, to take such a part in the discussion as in heir own discretion !night seem fitting, He Would not, however, disguise to the House that there were some difficulties on the subject ; and t irt Mr. CALCRAFT spoke to order 4 The Noble Lord was making a speech, and not replying to A question. Lord CASTLREAGH observed, that if the Ho- , nourable Gentleman's interruptiba was charae tised by an attention to order, it certainly was not distinguished.by its candour, the more especially, when the late extensions of the usage of the HouSe with respect to questions were considered. He certainly did wish to explain the situation in which he and the rest of his Majesty's Govern ment felt themselves on the subject. For himself, in conformity to the statment which he already made, he should consider himself at perfect liberty to enter into a discussion on the merits of the Catholic Ques tion; and, as an individual Member of the Govern ment to bring it forward f or th e consideration of Parliament, if,:on due investigation, he should find reason for thinking that such a step ought to be taken. So much with respect to himself ; and with respect to the other . Members of Govern ment, he had only to repeat, that he did not un derstand that the influence of Government, as a 'Government, was to stand in the way of the de claration of their individual sentiments. Mr. WALLACE brought up the Report of the Committee on the'East India Petition. Mr. CREEVEY objected to the additiOnalloans requiredby the Company. H e o b serve d that it had until late years been the,practice to bring for ward annually an East India Budget.. He wished to know whether it was the intention of the Hon. Gentleman oppoSite to do so ? Mr. WALLACE, though he thought it highly pro !. bahle that he should have an opportunity of laying before the House, a general statement of the affairs of the East India Company, could not pledge him self to bring forward an Indian Budget. He thought it probable that he might be enabled to do so. At all events he should be ready to give the best in formation in his power. Mr. CREEVEY explained. Mr. HUME contended, the House .ought to be informed of the state of the Company's Affairs, befbre they imposed burdens on the public po as sist the East India company with a loan. , He hoped the Hon. Gentlemen (Mr. Wallace) would produce the returns necessary to give the House the desired information on this subject before he brought in the Bill. Mr. WALLACE explained. The Report was or dered to be referred to a Committee of the whole House. He (Mr. Wallace) then gaye notice, that on Friday he would move a resolution on the sub ject in a Cominittee of Supply. The CHANCELLOR Of the EXCHEQUER (Mr. N. Vansittart), in the absence of his Right Hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer for Ire land, moved the third reading of the Irish Loan 13111. The Bill was read a third time and passed. On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the Ex- CiIEQUER, the Holm then resoled itself into a Committee of the ArliOle House on the Irish Cus toms. The report of the Committee was o r de re d to be received to-morrow. Mr. WALLAcE presented several Papers relative to the Affairs of the East India Company. Ordered to lie on the table. Mr. 11. SUMNER presented a Return of the Pri soner:, confined in News;;ate in the last year. Ordered to lie on the table. The , third reading of the General :Enclosure Bill, and the Committee on the General Highways Amendment Bill, were postponed to Monday. Th& Orders of the Day were disposed of and the Ho us e—Adj ourn ed. SZr TVOMAS TYRWHIT is appointed Usher of the Black Rod, vice FRANCIS MOLYNEUX, Bart; deceased. Sir LEOTARD' THOMAS WORSLEY HOLMES,Bar4,-„ M. P. for Newport, giants, wjlF shortly lead to the Hpneneal Altar, the beautiful and accom plished Miss'.! xuAY, youngest daughtcr'of Lady GEORG MURRAY, and sister to die. Countess of JLCHESTER. The beautiful seat of Wall Hall, in Hertford shire late -the property of Mr. THELLUSSON, uncle to Lord RENDELSIIAM, has been recently purchased by Mr. TILNEY LONG POLE WELLESLEY. The estates in Cornwall, -the property of the late Earl of ORFORD, but now in the possession of Lord CLINTON, are, we understand, claimed by Earl CIIOLMONDELEY, end measures are in train for an appeal to the Courts of Law. _ _ Occ 'Tuesday night the wife of gr. ,Hodgson, cheesemonger, the corner of` Queen -street, Lin coln's Inn-fields, and Drury;lane, was unfortu nately burnt to death in her.kitchen, by her cloaths catching fire, before proper assistfnce could be given her. RESOLIS, JUNE 4.—On Tuesday last, the' 2d current, Captain Charles Munro, late of the 42d regiment, and Robert Ferguson, ship-ca:Tenter, both residing at Inverbreaky Ferry, parish of Re having met at a neighbouring workshop, a trilling dispute arose between them. After a little altercation, 'erguson pulled a large knife out of his pocket, and plunged it into Captain I‘lntiro's side. Dr. M'Donald, at Clomarty, who was im mediately called, dressed the wound. with the greatest skill and tenderness, and afforded every possible assistance, but all to no purpose—the wound was mortal, and next evening, about 28 hours after receiving the cruel stab, the Captain died ! Upon perpetrating the atrocious deed, the base assassin attempted to elude the violated laws of his country; by absconding.' In consequence, however, of the exertions of 'Captain Mackenzie, of Newhall, whose activity on' this occasion me , rits the hightst praise, the miscreant was taken on the same evening, and. lodged early next, morn ing in the jail of Tain. Captain Munro has left an indigent Widow and a numerous helpless family .toideplore his premature. and - cruel death. There have been no, less than 212 commitments te New Prison, Clerkenwell, within the last 18 d a y s , 30 of whom are for trial at the -next Old 'Bail , -217 Sessions. IRELAND. Dt7YILINT, Ju N 4 FARTHER FALL IN THE PRICE OF PR.OVISIO::;S. In the public mark , t, in Green -street, v 11c! tbe highest price is always given, potatoes best quality ::•ere sold this morning for is. cwt. Yesterday, in the Spitalfield market, potatoes were sold for 5 . 5. 6d. per cwt._ In consequence of this reduction in the price, several of the owners of boats, laden with pot toes, closed the hatches and refused to Sell ; the. arrival of several wherries, with. thf, kind of cargoes, made the unfeeling, avari;i o v3 monopolists immediately alter their intention, and sell as fast as possible. CONVENTION ACT, ]li S i hle JUNE 6. ACTIONS OF FALSE IMPRISONMENT • 'BROUGHT BY THE ARRESTED CATHOLIC DELEGATES AGAINST CHIEF JUSTICE. DOWNES, The Catholics persevere in these actions and, on Tuesday next, the 9th of• June, the Solemn and long-expected argument is expected to commence in the Common Pleas Court. As the public attention , is fixed upon this mu- - mentous case, it is proper to lay its present state before our readers. On the 19th Of October. last, the arrested Ca-. tholic Delegate's (Mr. KirWan excepted) caused notices of the intended actions to be served upon Chief Justice William Downes. At the expira- • lion of a month, four declarations were filed by them against the learned defendant, in the mon Pleas and Exchequer Court, for arrest and false imprisonment, the damages hr each being laid at 50001. In February last, the learned de fendant applied, by his counsel, for farther time to plead to each declaration. He obtained the desired indulgence, and did not plead until after the circuit. In April, and not sooner, he put in his defence, Which consisted of three distitct 1. The General Issue, or Not Guilty. 2. His Patent as Chief Justice, and that he (iv; such Chief Justice, and under that protection) did issue'the Warrants of , Arrest in question, under which the plaintiffs were arrested ; and that.be, acting generally as Cbig.Jilftlf.2 ; • raiittd cuing. 3. Similar to the-second plea, but with this ad= dition, that three special informations were sworn before him, which he sets out verbatim at full length, upon which inf orma ti ons , as hi s authority, he did, as Chief Justice, issue the Warrants in question, The plaintiffs have replied generally to his first and third pleas, taking issue upon them, or, in other words, appealing to a Jury—and they have demurred to his second plea, thereby alleging that he isivrong in point of law. The demurrer must be disposed ofby the Court before the pleas can come before a Jury— an d it therefore stands for argument on Tuesday, in the case of Henry Edmund, Taaffe, Esq: versus the Right Hon. Wm. Downes. The same demurrer, in anoter action, is to be hereafter submitted to the Barons of the Exchequer. If the plea demurred be good in law, it will bar , the actions. The atrocious practice of stealing arms has been lately carried _to an *ming extent in the West Ridiitg of Yorkshire. Ou Wednesday se'nnight a number of persons, about seven or ei g ht, went thidisguised to the houSe of Mr.. Thomas Milncs, in Horbury, and roust .g him From his sleep, de manded entrance. Mr. Milnes not appearing in clined to obey, they threatened; if he did not in stantly open the door, they would immediately force it. Mr. Mines finding he could make no availing resistance, gave them admittance. They then insisted upon having his fire arms ; but •on being 'satisfied that he had none, they de mantled money and refreshment ; he gai:e them some silver, and bread, cheese, and- beer.— They then requested that he would allow them to Ake some to some poor fellows who they said -Were watching at a distance ; with this requisition he thought it also prudent to comply, and they then civilly took their leave of him. On Sunday night following, these depredators made a farther attack on several houses at Netherton (a place in the immediate vicinity of Horbury), where they succitededin obtaining seven or eight stand of arms; and upon this occasion they behaved with peen liar atrocity; 'by wantonly firing several musket balls-into one of the houses. The shccess of these nocturnal depredators on this occasion is the more remarkable, as, on the day before ,(Saturday) the Chief Constable of the district, and the Constable of Horbury, had received direction to receive the fire arms of such of the inhabitants as were dispos ed to give them up, and which they carried. into ef fect the same day. Most of the inhabitants readily gave up their arms to the custody of the Civil •Ma gistrates, but some refused. The constables were much hooted and 'abused by the populace whilst they were executing this duty ; and one of the mob had the effrontery to take from:his pocket a handful of musket bails, which he threw . into the air, exclaiming " Here are hail -stones-for volt." It is said there is a person in' Horbur'Y employed in casting these leaden messengers of death.— Every article of lead, ,such as pumps, water- spouts, &c. which can be readily coliveyed away, is constantly disappearink. The glaring vihlation of the laws of society and of private property, evinced in these nocturnal visits, though an evil, of great magnitude, is, as it were, lost in the contemplation of the more atrocious purposes for which these instruments of death are collected, and which the imagination almost sickens at the thought of: In the Court of King's Bench this day, Mr. Robert Bligh was brought up to receive Judgment, he having forfeited his recognizance to keep the peace against the Earl of Darn ley. Several affidavits, made by his Lordship ; and General Bligh, were read to shew that Bligh had way-laid his Lordship, fre itently near his house, and threatened and- in sulted him in the Park and at the Opera. He was committed to the custody of the Marshal, to be brought up next AlOnday, the time al lowed for him to answer the affidavits. A rule to shew cause why a Mandamus Should not be.directed to the Commissioners for repaithag _Piccadilly tollyde Park Turnpike ova;► obtained by Go:IEY.