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difficulty in pint of iaterpretation; for whereas in former were regarded merely as a power which gave to this film.' tataourt of juttice was the m-diem of deciding Ceeir ; country a check upon the representative chamber, then Eat ini•ig whenever a cause arose, at present the °eine I he cane:ea - led that any such body was euperflaeus. The nia'-office—whieh in its neture was a secret trihunet— : Governer aepointed by the Crown had toe power of veto • War tee tole interpreter. And it wee no answ.'r to th e lon tha acts ot the T-4-gislivive Assembly, it was, ther e - ci je than that existed against the practice that the ; fore, quit(' aerate s w-y to ertette aeetlier pa,,er of veto N t h!, Earl lately at the head of the Colonittl-affiee, on his lin a body of rennin es. Ho (; he Duke of Newcastl e ) own part, as atetll its on that of his Predhattaorst pleaded I was not an advocate for giving the right of electioti of the pl en it u d e of liberality exercised by them in regerd members for tea Upper Chamaar to the same body of qualifieation might be to the power of disallowance, stating that there was not persons who elected the House of Representatives; but tnero than 21- per cent. on all colonial Bilk to which it he thought a higher electoral Wa s a ppli e d. in respect to the next Point—the election adopted, that the el, eted might enjoy a longer tenure of of officers—he (Lord Lytteltnn) believed the appoint- office, and that the area of representation might be en meet of a governor by the C , i , ivn was as good as the barged. With raaard to that portion of the Gill which app intment of a governor by election; hut he was of related to the latal sales and the New Zeal and Company, opinion that the primary evil was the temporary nature he recettnnentled that the clauses should be postponed of th e Office. It was understood the governor of a until the eltargeo wincia had been brought against the colo n y wa s to be removed at the eed o f five, six, or company had been fully examined and reported upon. seven years; and this prevented all possibility of iden- t After having given to tee metier the best consideration tification with the interests of the colonists. The next in his power, he could not help thinhinF-,, that it would point—viz, self-defence, was, in the charter of Mary- be wise, just, and politic, and that it would lead even land, entirely entrusted to the settlers; who had power tually to a more satisfactory settlement of the question, given them to make war, by sea and by land, on all that the clauses relating to the New Z-, !land Company enemies whatsoever that came against the colony; and should be altogether omitted from the Bill. ther e was no reservation of the duty of self-support in Earl GREY said that he thought it advisable to deal 1 that respect. The normal state of the ancient colonies in the first instance with that subject to which the of th e country wa,3, therefore, to support themselves , Noble Duke had d i r ected their attent ion towards the to d e f en d th emse l ves , and to bear their own costs: conclusion of his address, namely, the clauses in the the norma l s t a t e of our modern colonies WaS quite Bill tshich referred to the claims of the New Zadand the rev e r se , That system was in spirit nearly ideottasl Company. He certainly regretted to think that it should with the prayer of the petition presented by a Neble be necessary to lay on that rising ctlony aeh tr t ge such bath e (A rg yll) on a previous evening, a prayer which 28 tll':t which these clauses would impose. But it ap it had been said, Wail inconsistent with the existence of pear dto him that th a t was a n tcessity arising out of the a c o l on i a l empire. .It was, however, in operation for obliaaden to do justice ta those without whose (ffort-: more than a century when the North American colonies and sacrifices th e r e w ould be no colony at all in New were the pride and glory of England, and when Eng- Z . :a:l'B,Al. Many persons were in the habit of findieg land possessed a colonial empire in the best sense of great fault with th e New Zealand Company; and he had the word. The result was, that the early colonists certainly never been one of their determined supporters. Were masculine, generous, and self-relying men; who But at the same time he was bound to say that, in his asked no assistance from the mother country, but who opinion, the c : y w hich was at present raised against gave it. The question in his mind was not as to the them was not less unjust than the attempt which had material wealth of a colony, but as to the character of formerly been made to support them had been unwise and the men with whom this country was peopliog the uncalled for. The high character of the gentlemen who world. Th e spirit of these colonists was not that of the presided over the company certainly offered a reason colonists at the frontiers on the Cape of Good Hop e , w h o able ground for supposing that they had, at all events, set forth their own tin warlike dispositions as inappli ca bl e acted in an honourable manner; and there was this tor seltadefence. Year after year they had to con t en d further ground for that belief, that they had been heavy for life with savages far more daring and far more dan- loser s b y their connexion with the undertaking. Large gero u s th a n the Kafir tribes; and that spirit it was sums had been sunk by them, for the repayment of which caused them to rise and shake off the yoke which they had only the distant prospect held out to of misrule which had been laid upon them them by the arrangement set forth in the present Bill. by th e u njust domination of the mother country. For his part, the great fault which ho found with them As regarded loyalty, too, these colonies were far be- was that they had shown themselves somewhat deficient for e the modern colonies; for whereas Franklin never in worldly wisdom and prudence, in adopting too easily even thought of separation until long after Lord Gran- the plausible schemes of a very elt ver projector—a pro vill'e folly and oppression had driven the American jector whose talents he (Earl Grey) should be the last colonists to revolt, Canada and Australia talk of sepa- man to deny, but whose cleverness was not accompanied ration upon the recurrence of every paltry grievance, by other qualities quite as necessary to make him a safe In co nclusion, ho (Lord Lyttleton) would only add on or a trustworthy guide. He thought, too, that the di the gen eral subject, that the Bill was a return in some rectors of the company had failed to evince any high de- Sort to the ancient system of colonisation, and that he gre ofjudgmsnt in conducting the great enterprise in hoped before long that system would be fully revived which they had somewhat rashly embarked. But perhaps As r ega rded the details of the Bill they were to be that was a necessary consequence ct the very con looked at un d er t w o as t y ets. The first referred to the stitution of a board of directors. Ile believed that such Provincial governments; the second to the general go. a board was never likely to be capable of a consistent vernment. It w as good with respect to the control of and sound management of the affairs of a great corn lane sa l es by th e colonists; also with respect to pany, unless some one individual took a complete lead of the constitution o f th e general Legislature, because the rest of the body, and virtually became its manager. it got r id o f the intermixture in the same That the New Ztaland Company had not succeeded in a Chamber of the elective members and nominees pecuniary point of view was not, hi his opinion, much to of the Crown. Many expressed their admire- be wondered at. The difficulties in the way of founding tine of the Constitution of the United States. a distant colony were so great that he believed under- For hi s ow n p a rt he did not wish, in any consti- takings of the kind could never be a source of profit to tuti on , for our c o lonies to imitate the United States their original projectors. He might state, for the pur since the period of the revolution. What he would fol- pose of illustrating those difficulties, that the Canterbury low as a model was the constitution of those states when Association had, as be had heard, gone through the they were colonies of this empire. However, with re- common lot, and had declared itself insolvent within the Specs to the Bill, taking it altogether, her Majesty's Go- last few days. He believed that the correct principle eer nmen t h a d introduced a much better measure than for Parliament and the Government to adopt in such he thought they had ever intended. He remembered cases was to avoid, as far as possible, any interference the w;11-deserved sneer of the Noble Lord at the head of with the projectors beyond what was required for guard- the Government, expressed at the opening of the pre- ing the country from the danger of future expense and sent session, at the amount of knowledge possessed and future trouble, and for preventing those public of the interest felt in their Lordships' House about the calamities which might take 1 p -Ace it the Government affairs of New Zealand. Nevertheless, he thought that were to exercise no control on those occasions. Perhaps there was no one of their Lordships who would believe his Noble Friend near him (Lord lay ttelton) would that t hi s Bill h a d been unwisely introduced, or that the al low him to illustrate the p rinci p le whic h he thoug ht consideration it had met with had been unwisely be• ought to be adopted in those matters, by stating the Sto we d ; and for himself, he should be well content that course which he had pursued at the period of the loan the Bill should pass without any material alteration in it. elation of the Canterbury Association, of which his Lord WODEHOUSE said that all who had paid any Noble Friend was a most distinguished member. That attention to the frame work of the Bill would readily was a plan ter the formation of a great Church colony acknowledge that, in a theoretical point of view, there in a part of New Zealand which had then been unoccu- Were some objections to be made to it—that in fact they pied. He had been told that the projectors had had a Would not find in it a perfect model of a constitution, large sum of money reedy, and that they had been pre- There appeared to be a total absence of any leading pared to undertake their scheme at their own risk with principle in it, ant] it might be plausibly objected to that the assistance of the New Zealand Company. H e h a d It gave a disproportionate amount of government for so ventured to express very strongly to the projectors his *Mall a community—a government consisting as it did opinion that they would be greatly disappointed in their of six provincial legislatures, a general legislative expectations; and that with 'lie large price which they ass em bly, comprising two houses, a governor in chief, asked for laud they would find it impossible to afford to and six provincial governors—and all this for a popula- purchasers the advantages which they promised. But 'ion not numbering more than 20,000 Europeans alto- he had also told them that if nothing were done gather. With respect to the analogy which had been which could in any way delude the ' public as °ought to be established between she New Zealand to the real state of the case, and if certain regu colonies, he did not think it could hold; the cis- lations were adopted for the purpose of insuring Ournst a nces of ,each were so different, and in no one the people of this country and of the colony against thin g were they more different than in the comma- claims which might otherwise ari se aga i nst t h em, tively e asy means of communicationbetween the he could see no objection to the scheme being under different p a rts of the colony which now existed, and taken at their own ritk. He had thought at t h e ti me, Which afforded facilities for carrying out a central and be still retained the opinion, that whatever might be gov e rnm e nt, Neither did ho think that the the disappointment to the original proprietors, a colony example of the United States of the p r ese nt da y was would be established which would in the end become a analogous. Tne United States territory was so large great and flourishing community. Th e association had tha t it would be impossible to have free institutions in hcen formed, and the results bed been precisely such as it, ex ce pt in a federal form. New Zealand was in a po- ho had anticipated. In his opinion it was no part o f t h e sition comparatively isolated, and the powers given duty of the Government or of Parliament to find pru 11, nder this Bill, undoubtedly large as they were , would , deuce for private individuals, and to prevent them fr om tie had no doubt, be readily pat into operation. The emhark'iig ate measures which, ltd far as they were con- People of the neighbouring Australian colonies, how- corned, rnesht riot lead to satisfactory results. T. the ever, could not bat strongly feet the contrast which their case of the Canterbury Association no claim was likely eonstitution presented to that given by this Bill to New to arise against the public, and for this reason, that the Zealand, conferring as the latter did, the management relations between the association and the Government Of th e was te l a nds upon the colonists themselves, whilst had been clearly defined from the com men c ement . that management in the case of the Australian colonies But, unfortunately, in dealing with the New Z sgland Was m a de a matter of reservation for the Imperial Go- Company, the sarne course bad not been adopted. Veroment a t home. The effect of the contrast would They had claims against the public arising Drob a bly be to abandon the management of the waste out of the fact, that in the earliest stage of lands to the colonists in t he case of Australia also. An- their existence their measures had been thwarted Other important concession made to the colonists in this partly by the Government at home, and still snore by till wag on the subject of the veto of the Imperial Go- the local authorities in the colony, and that by that aer nmen t an d the power of disallowance of Bills for two mean s their chances of success b ed been diminished. sears by the governor. These were wise concessions, That was the conclu-ion at which the Committee of the and made at the proper time. We had now colonies House of Commons, which had inquired into the subject Speedily growing up to manhood, and if we treated them in the year 1844, had arrived; and that Committee had in a generous anti liberal spirit, abandoning all vexatious further decided that that circumstance gave the company interference in their purely local affairs, t h e y wou ld a c l a i m aga inst the Government and Parliament which readily submit to general control in matters of Imperial were bound to place them in as good a situation as that interest to the Imperial Government in return for the which they would have held if no such ground of corn- Protection afforded to them, bound as they are to the plaint had existed. The Noble Earl opposite (the Earl mother country by community of language, of coinmer of Derby) had himself felt that claim ae strongly that 0 41 interests, and of political institutions. immediately before his retirement from the Colonial- The Duke of NEWCASTLE re g retted that the Bill office he bad made arran g ements for resistin g the com 4ad come before them at a period of the session when it patty by means of a loan. When he (Earl Grey) bad was in va in to expect to secure a discussion on either the been appointed to the direction of the same office, he ascend reading, or in the Committee, notwithstanding had found that what had been done for the company bad that the measure was one of the utmost importance, and been very far indeed from compensating them for the that in it the Government had made concessions which injury they had sustained in consequence of previous Were so large that he doubted whether the Government measures adopted towards them, and more especially in tad really intended to confer them. For his owlspart coast quence of the great delay in giving them possession e certainly approved of the Bill, especially of the pro- of their land. He had thought that something further Vision which admitted of the colonists altering the Con- should be done in order to enable them to try fairly the stitution, should it appear to require it; for it was im- scheme for which they had been originally incorporated. Possible for the Government here at home to legislate The subject had, accordingly, been placed in the hands satisfactorily upon all the various and conflicting points of the late lamented Mr. Charles Buller, who had di 11Pen which even the colonists themselves would find rected great attention to the question, and had on ve il great difficulty in coming to a unanimous de- rious occasions shown great ability in discussing it; and, cision. Three different schemes of government had after considerable irquiry, Mr. Buller had devised an been suggested for the colony—viz,,a central go- arrangement which had ultimately been approved of by vern m ent, a subdivision of the co lon y into two him (Earl Gre y ) and b y his collea g ues in the Go- Provinces—and thirdly, the plan now before the vete:went. The great points on which he had espe /louse, giving a separate local legislature to each of ciaily taken precautions against future disputes and The six separate provinces , cont rolled b y a central inconvenience were, first, that the pecuniary assist legislature, which was composed of the elements of mince to be given to the company was not to exceed all six. With respect to the first of these, he held it im- a certain amount, and next, that that was to be a con- Possible to establish a central government, when, in elusive measure—that it was to be a discharge in full of ! ,ality there was no natural centre in the country. all p ossible claims on the part of the company. The There was equal objection to the subdivision into two Bill of 1847 had been prepared in order to carry out that Provinces; and, with respect to the third scheme, he con- arrangement, end had ultimately received the assent of 'littered it by far the best. As to the objection that the Parli.raent. In working out the arrangement it had al amount of population was not sufficient to warrant so ways appeared to him that there had been one clear rule Much machinery of government as this Bill contained, he for him to follow—nee:lett?, to remember that the great Consider©d it by no means an insuperable objection: the object of the measure was to enable the company to try Population would rapidly increase, and a large population fairly whether the plan of a great colonising company *as by no means an essential element in a local govern- could succeed. He had thought that it had not been the asen t , He was only afraid that the concurrent power of duty of the Government to have decided whether the th e l oca l and the central legislatures would not act bar- measures of the company had been prudent or not, be koniously, and that there was some ground for the ap- cause the essence of the scheme had been that the com- Prehension that greatconfusion would result from it. It pany should receive a largo discretion. At the end of was a wise proceeding, to exclude nominees Lem the the period which bad been named by the company them legislature; they formed a most jarring element in the selves for fairly trying the experiment they had found Constitution of the assemblies in other colonies; and it that, notwithstanding the large pecuniary assistance they Was equally prudent to coneede the appointment of the had received, they could no longer have gone on; and 6 , Uperintendents by electio n in the colonies. It would then they resigned their functions, and had, under the °a far easier for the co l o nies to obtain in that way terms of the Act, made certain claims upon the Go -4 more suitable man for the office than the Government, vernment, which were ultimately to be pai d out of the and the opinion of Governor Grey confirmed that view. land revenues of New Z-alaud. He certainly felt sur /le now came to a part of the Bill to which he could not prised to hear the Noble Duke declare that the company off er t h e s ame meed of approbation that he gave to other had no moral claims upon the Government; and he (Earl Portions of it—he alluded to the principle which it Grey) would defy any man to inquire into the facts of adopted with reeard to the constitution of the Upper the case and come to the conclusion that the claims chamber of the L e gislature, and in wh' . leli respect there of the company could be honestly repudiated. He on from the upon claims Was a complete departure the simple wording of the Act of Billof Ear l " d for the measure was said to be founde ,already stood. That Act, in his opi- Grey, he believed, Th ' adopted the elective principle. e nion, supposed the ultimate payment of the debt; and if faul t of the measure seemed to him (the Duke of New- it were to be paid, it was the interest both of the com castle) to be a want of unity of principle; and he could pany and of the colony that it should be paid as speedily hot help thinking that the same grounds for abandoning a s pos s ible by the best administration of the land revenue. the nominee system in the representative Chamber He entirely concurred with the Noble Duke (Newcastle) Sh ou ld have induced the Government to abandon that that an inquiry into this subject was imperatively neces system in the case of the Upper Chamber. Again, nary, and that in another Parliament a searchi ng inves the Bill would Plates the Colonial Sec retar y in the tigation before a Committee of the House ought to take ,Position of an arbitrator, whose office it would place. So far as he w a s concerned , he wished that every Q 9 to act between the Governor and nominee Cham- letter and document, public or private, should be pro her and the representative body. Moreover, he was of 1 duced and carefully examined, and that the result sh ou ld opinion that they would never get a body of nominees ' ho fairly reported upon by an impartial C omm i ttee . to pay that attention to the work which was required He was persuaded that if that was done, although he item a l eg i s l a tive assemblY• This system was intended, was far from being prepared to defend every act and he presumed, to bear some sort o f r esem bl ance to foe- proceeding of the company, there would be found no- Denial institutions ; but if it were so, it appeared to him thi n g whatever to reflect upon the honour or probity th at t h e Government were pursuing the shadow and not of the gentlemen by whom its affairs were carried on. the substance of a Conservative p o li cy . He thought As an inquiry was to take place, it would be worse they were grasping at a notion of something Conserve- than useless in him to give any opinion with regard to !ire in a nominee house of assembly — something o f an the groundlessness of the charges that had bean brought Imperial character—whilst they were losing the sub- against the company elsewhere. It would be also stance of a really Conservative measure namely, impassible that the House could fully understand taking this body elective, and thereby introducing men , e • ' all .nplleations without a lengthened the case in :hi its C, , Who had an interest in the colony, and in the pre " r ya - reta re , e° to the voluminous pipers which had been laid tioe of all th a t concerned it, wh ich nominee members before parliament, ore Parliament. 13a , the re were tea) main points put l'-'ltlem had, end, he believed, in fact never could possess. forward as char g e s : against the company to which he 't was absurd to suppose that a nominee chamber in a would briefl a llude—first first that of applying the public "lonv like New Zealand could have any similarity to money entrusted e— not originally in to them to pur p oses - 00, House of Lords. There was no element in the colony tended ; and second,costeinopinions that had been to corr e spond with such an institution, and though seat out to the colony" to regard to the first of these With Perhaps, in theory, at first sight, appointments by ! charges, he could 8 ,- . for t he two gentlemen who were th e Crown or the r epresentative of the Crown , connected with the a f ; (i or t -t he funds as com ministration of . r cielat w i nk rather more like a lleuse of Lords than a mis'aonors, and Without b oa practically whoe e permission no money --y elected by the people, yet if it were could he applied —one of them - ' . • involved in had bee ,me t4 arnieed, the appearance would fade away, and it , some disputes with the compel end led to W ould at once be seen what a shadow and an unreality 1 his removal; ho was succeedediy, which in the the Whole thing Farther , *f the nominee chamber ' honour and judgment he felt was. x I by a gentleman in . whose equal on fia while he ence, felt still more for his temper and discretion. It was only in a ease where the money was likely to be applied in a manner contrary to the intentions of Parliament that he (Earl Grey) advised their interference. Then with regard to the opinions he would only make one short observation. In 1849 papers were laid before Parliament, and given to the world, and sent out to the colony, in ethich was the fact that an opinion of counsel unfavourable to the company had been pronoacced ; but, at the same time, he had himself explicitly stated his opinion to be in favour of the com pany, These opinions were known in the colony three years previously. The whole question was whether the settlement between the company and the settlers was a fair and proper one. The fact was, that it was one most favourable to the settlers. The circumstance cf that opiniun heving been given was known to ell the world, and no attempt was made to disturb that settle. ment. He could only express a hope that the inquiry would take pl tee; but in the meantime it was their duty to adhere to their bargain, and let them have the advan tege. He thought that out of justice to the company the arrangement as suggested by her Majesty's Go vernment ought to be maintained. The settlers of New Zealand had no right to complain of that—they were to hr charged with a quarter of the gross proceeds of the sale of the land towards the discharge of the com panfs debts. Now, what gave value to the land was the expenditure of capital by the Parliament and the company; and that being so, it was desirable that the New Zealand Company, who had received nothing for their large expeeditnre for many years, should have that amount from the land. The settlers could have no right to complain of that as being unjust; but he thought it was an error in the Bill not to stare that the future liabilities which might arise under the Act of 1847 sheuld be defrayed out of the New Zealand laud revenue; they had certainly uo right to come upon the British Treasury or the nation. That was the view he entertained while he held the Colonial seals, and it would be satisfactory if the Bill had contained a clause to that effect. With regard to the larger and more general question, the Noble Lord who spoke second in the debate entered fully into it, but he did not think his Noble Friend had read history very correctly. He did not think he could say that the old American colonies had complete control over the land and revenues of the colot ies. Lord LYTTELTON—By their charters. Earl GREY—That, of course, was a very different matter. He also stated that they had unrestricted trade with all the world, but this could not be established by the fact, as from the earliest date it was the policy of France, of England, and of every other country, to re strict Lae colonies exclusively to their own use and benefit. They were looked upon as a species of Crowe land. It was further stated that they had au unlimited power or making war. Undoubtedly they made war upon the natives; but beyond that they had no wars of their own, and that was the only species of war the) were likely to make. There were only three or four pro visions of the Bill to which he thought it right to offer any objection. The first was, as to the change in the constitution of the provincial councils. Ile believed that a ;;teat portion of the public business would devolve on these councils; but it was quite necessary also that there should be general councils to meet special cases and to meet occasionally. He had urged the same objec tion with regard to the Act relating to the Australian co lonies. It ties, at the same time, satisfactory to find that the Government had given a general over riding authority to the general legislature. He thought, also, that great inconvenience would arise from that provision of the Bill which deprived the Crown of a veto upon the acts of the colonial legislature. He had always thought that the Crown ought to have this supreme authority; ane it would be impossible beforehand to define what act' they should be allowed to pass without any control, and what acts the Imperial Legislature might place its veto on. That would give rise to conflicts of authority and jurisdiction; and they were all aware that such reall) occurred in the United States. Without such a provi• sion as he had referred to, he feared that very serious inconvenience and embarrassment would result. On the other hand, he could not see how any practical inconve nience would result from granting this power to the Crown. It was said that two years would be an unne cessarily long time for disallowing colonial acts; but that, it appeared to him, would be an advantage. In the course of that period, experience had shown that amend meats were often made in Acts hastily passed before they were submitted for her Majesty's assent. He thought the making superintendents elective was a mistake, these offices being analogous to that el sheriffs in England, and therefore in some respects under the control of the Governor of the colony- They all knew that the foundation of the power of the Governor depended upon his privilege of suspending any act or appointment until it had received the sanction of the Crown. He came next to the constitution of the general legislature. By far the most defective part of our North American colonial legislatures was the elec tive councils.—(ilear.) At one time Legislative Coun cils were renewable at the pleasure of the Crown, but the act of 1791 made them elected for life. It was ab surd to call such councils a copy or imitation of our House of Lords; there was no similarity between the two legislatures. It was, hoivever, at first intended by the act of 1791 to make those councils resemble the House of Lords by creating hereditary honours. It was not intended that they should be a small oligarchy, dependent on the will of the Crown; but circumstances at the time were too strong for Mr. Pitt, and no heredi-. tary honours had been created. The Legislative Coun cils had become a mere body of nominees. Ia fact, Legislative Councils were universally regarded in Cam da as the great obstacle to good Government; and nottneg so much tended to bring about that uubappe state of thiegs which led to insurrection in Canada than tlae.e councils. The question then was, how had Legisla tire Cohneils worked? He was bouni to say, according to his experience, they had not worked satisfactorily iu North America. The reason why they had not worked satisfactorily was, because on many occasions those Councils had not had sufficient weight with the public, or as they ought to have possessed, iu order to render them properly useful; and the consequence of that had been the necessity of making large additions to them, so that, to use the Noble Duke's expression, they had more than once been swamped. The present Bill, in its ori ginal shape, would have worked injuriously in this par ticular respect; for if a mista ke had been made at the onset in the nomination, it would have been competent for a few individuals to have obstructed or defeated any beneficial or useful measure which the colonists and the law. Crown I might tw oe would haveave approvedteen been o f e e a c n e d s desiredsary to o t h o a pass again again to parliament, and the only way to meet such a state of things-was by giving to the Crown large discre tionary powers to make such additions to those bodies as might be considered requisite. He begged the Nubia Earl, on account of the importance of the sub ject, to do him the favour to pay a little attention to his statements. The Earl of DERBY—I do assure the Noble Earl I a re d darmessseodrrytoto the e y H I ohesaevedehreiaergd t e h v e ery lea w t o h rel our h a e e h d as th quarters.—(Laughter.) Earl GREY—Then the Noble .Earl has the enviable quality of listening to a discourse and of carrying on an interesting conversation at the same time, without losing a word of either conversation or di s course.—(Laughter.) The NOBLE Eana resumed—lt was inconvenient to withdraw respectable men from the assembly in order that they might enter the Legislative Council. He considered it was better they should sit singly t h a n be mixed, as th a t wou ld not add to their weight and authority. H e would advert to anot her im p ortant point—the app ro p r i at i on o f the land fund. He wou l i not repeat the o pi n i on h e had more than on ce ex pressed, that it was the duty of Parliaraant to lay down some rule as to the disposal of waste lands in some of ,our more important colonies. But no such rule had been laid down in Canada, Nova Scotia, and, latterly, in the West India colonies. The subject had been entirely legislated upon by the colonial legislatures—the colonial legislatures had passed Acts, and had taken the whole matter upon themselves. In the New Zealand Bill there appeared to be powers which permitted the local legislatures to legislate on the matter. He feared the system under the Bill would lead to jobbing and abuse. It appeared to him that the power would uo better if given to individual provinces than to the general legislature, because one settlement might desire to make regulations and prices which an other settlement might object to. By delegating the application of the money derived from the sale of waste lands to the general legislature instead of to the local councils, he feared that much abuse would arise. Ho entirely concurred in the concluding observations of his Noble Friend behind him when he said, that this was a most important crisis in the affairs of our colonial empire, and that much would depend upon the course of legislation now pursued. He adopted phrase of his Noble Friend, that many of our colonies were " growing up to manhood," and that it was now necessary to carry out that scheme of policy which would have been proper oven in an earlier stage of their social progress. But this policy ought to be carried out, not by separating from the old and established system hitherto pursued by this country—none of the constitutional powers hitherto possessed by the Crown ought to be abandoned—but the Government ought carefully to exercise the existing powers. It was with some degree of pride that he found the North American colonies in their present position of prosperity. In 1846 they were in a different condition, and they had to surmount difficulties of no ordinary na ture before they attained their present state. Until 1846 not one of these colonies enjoyed the system of govern ment now established, and at present working successfully and harmoniously. In Canada we had seen the two races of men divided, and with no general agreement as to the form of government under which they were to 'live, and that great and distinguished man expressed his greatest doubt as to whether the system would work in that colony. But in Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Prince Edward's Island, the systems of local govern ment had been carried into complete and satisfactory operation. In Canada we had now the aspect of a united pptierueonvpilmoenu,d:e: apparent and English acting harmoniously together, and regarding the mother country with affec ncorylonofy awnansexma.aintkiong greater thehandealetnhiyirwelays disappeared,the feeling, a th n a ci t the rea pressure t er progress of political in population discontent aed previously wealth than any of the neighbouring Tremenhere, in an intere s ti ng book recently staes; published,and Mr. took precisely this view of th e subject. The possessed all the legal power ne cessary f or dealing with the colonies, and, as far as their w e lf are was concerned, r rtnh it was only necessary that it should be exercised with judgment and discretion. Curd LYTTELTON thought it desirable to separate the Canterbury Association from the Canterbury Co lony.—(flear, hear.) The Canterbury Association might have been involved in some difficulty, b u t as tar as the colony was concerned he was prepared to contend, that in the same space of time no other settle ment had attained so great a degree of prosperity, After a few words in explanation from the Dake of NEWCASTLE, The Bill vial read a second time. The County Rites Bill was read a second time. The Sunk Island Roads Bill, the COMMOII3 Enclosures Act Extension Bill, tho Ap!?ointmont of Overseers Bill, and the Hereditary Casual Revenues in the Colonies all, were severally psssed through C o m m ittee, The Poor-law Commission Continuance (Ireland) Bill was read a third time cod passed. Their Lordships then adjourned. PARLIAMENTARY DIVISIONS. MONDAY, JUNE 21. POOR-LAW BOARD CON TINUANC E BILL, (From the Votes and .Proeeetzinqs of the House of Commons ) Read a Third time; Clause (Th a t noth i ng i n this Act, or in any other Act, shall be deemed or ta k en to au thorise the said Commissioners to continue in any way to enforce, or to issue, any order by them heretofore made, or hereafter to be made, whereby they may have determined, or may deter mine, cr assume to determine, the continuance in office or dismissal of any officers appointed, or to be appointed, under the provisions of any local A ct for the regulat i on, or th e government, or the appointm ent of the officers of any par i s h, which cont iins a population exceeding twenty thousan d persons), brought up, and r ea d the first time :—Motion made, and Question put, " That the Clause be now read a second time." The House divided : MINORITY—AYES, 29. Bell, Jacob Hastie, Alexander Ricardo, Osman Boyle, Colonel Hastie, Archibald Salwey, Colonel Carter, -amuel }Lindley Charles Scholefield, W. Clay, Sir W. Hume, Joseph Seymour, H. 1). Cogan, W. 11. Hutchins, H. j. Stuart, Lord D. Collins, William King, P. J. - Townshend, Captain D'Eyncourt, C. T. Kinnaird, A., F . Duke, Sir J. Mackinnon, Iv . A. Williams, W. Duncan, lizeorge molesworth, Sir IV TELLERS. Duncomba, T. Osborne, Ralph Evans, Sir De Lacy Fitzroy, lion. H. Pechell, Sir (.4. Hall, Sir B. 1:1:co: 933i•ann BIA E JO br R in I g T: Adair, R. Shai to Duncornbe, A. Lowther, Colonel Adderey, C. B. Diume, Colonel Anstoy, Thomas Du Pre, C. G. Lushington, C. Mandeville, Vis. Bailey, Joseph Millie, H. J. , Edwards, IL • Baines, M. T. Egerton, W. T. Naas, Lord Napier, Joseph Baird James Fel'owes, Edward Visct. Bankes, G. Forbes, William Newport, Baring, Sir F. T. Forester, Colonel Noel, G. J. Parke, C.X. Barrington, Vis. Freestun, Colonel Sir 3 BeresMrd, William Freshfleld, J. w. Pakington, J. Pennant, Colonel Bonham-Carter, J. Fuller, A. E. ers, Lord J. Bramston, T. W. Gilpin, Colonel Pugh, David '• , Ireinridge, Richard Graham, Sir Jamey Seaham, Viscount Bruce, Lord E. Granger, T. C. Stanley, Lord Bruce, C. L. C. Grey, Ralph Win. Stanton, W. IL Buck, L. W. Grogan, Edward Stewart, Admiral Burghley, Lord Hale, R. B. Sutton, H M• I Campbell, Sir A. Hamilton, G. A. Taylor, Colonel Carew, W. P. . Hamilton, J. H. Tennent, Sir J. Chandos, Marquis of Hamilton, Lord:C, Thompson, Colonel Chichester, Lord J. Harris, Richard Toilemache, John „, rollope, Sir J. Christopher, R. Henley, J. W. .c Christy, Samuel Heywood, JameS Tyler, Sir U. Clinton, Lord C. Hope, Sir J. 'Verner, Sir W. „,. a Clive, R. H.. Hotham, Lord Vyse, H. R. 11. Cochrane, A. D. Hutt, William Waddington, n' S. Codrington, Sir W. Inglis, Sir B. Whiteside, Jame' Conolly, Thomas Johnstone, Sir J, Wortley, J. S. Cotton, W. 11. Jolliffe, Sir W. G. Wynn, ii. W. Denison, Edmund Jones, David Yorke, E. T. . . Disraeli, B. Knox, W. S. Divett, Edward Lacy, H. C. 'num& Dodd, George Lascelles, E. kackenzie, W. F Lennox, Lord H. G. CRIME AND OUTRAGE (IRELAND) BILL. (IN THE COMMITTE E.) Question proposed, " That the blank be filled with the words ' thirty-first day of August one tho,rand Clause One (recited Acts continued) eight hundred and fifty three:' "—Afterwards moved, That the blank be filled with the words ' thirty-first day of December one thousand :-- Alotion made, and eight hundred and fifty-two :' ':— Question ,ht, 4. That the blank be filled with the words thirty-fi rst r day o f August one thousand eight hundred and fif ty - three',, The com mittee divided:— MAJORITY—AYES, lot MINORITY—NOES, ii . Anstey, T. C. Magan, W. H. Pe Carter, Samuel Maher, N. ell en, Sir G. Cogan, W. H. Mahon, O'Gorman Devereux, J. T. Norreys, Sir D. scull TELLERS. Green, John O'Connell, M. J. S 3 7 , Francis e 41137. Vincent TUESDAY. JUNE 22. METROPOLITAN BURIALS BILL. (IN THE COMMITTEE.) order to add the Clause 30 (A portion not too b 3 so consecrated) :—Amend ment proposed, page 9 , , line ,:o leave out from the word party .. ever y case in which the h a ,,, ; words having the direction it is in of the funeral of a person whom . tended to inter in such Burial Ground shall give notice to the keeper of the ~ providing," to the end of the Clause, in said ground, that the services of a Minister of the said United thereat Church shall be law of Englanful t d o and I nter rel inandan will not b e requ ired y Part of such Burial Ground the body relative to which such n ot i ce shall have been given without the services of any such Minister, an d to , it i have the Burial Service performed as well in t h e said Chapel as in the said Burial Ground, according to the usages of the religious denomination to which the deceased, or the arty having the directio n o f the said funeral, may have belopnged or belong :"—Questionat the words providing any Burial Ground such Board shall,' stand part of the Clause.' The Committee divided : MAJORITY-AYES, 62. Acland, Sir T. Fuller, A.B. Packe, C. W. Adderley, C. B, Viscount Paki Galway. 0 ngton, Sir John Bailey, Joseph Gallwey, Sir W. Patten, J. W. Baillie, H. J. Gooch, E. S. Portal, Melville Baird. James Gilpin, Colonel , P , ri ng i ne, Richard LArdC. Scott, F rancis d ; Hamilton, G. A. , William Hamilton, it, David Lord E. Ha rr i s, C a ptain Scaliam, Vi sco unt 88 8 a re ur n e se k e e f, o s r , G. Campbell, Sir A. Heneage, U. IL Seymour, Lord Carew, W. P. Henley, J. W. Sotheron, T. Chandos, Marq. of Hildyard, B. C. Tenuent, Sir J. Chatterton, Colonel Hope, Sir J. Trollope, Sir J. Cliwon, Lord C. Jolliffe, Sir W. G. Tyler, Sir G. Codrington, Sir W. Knox, W. S. Tyrell, Sir J. cotton, W. S. Lockhart,.W. Walpole, S. H. Disraeli, B. Lowther, Qolonel Wh't'side- j,,,, Duckworth, Sir J. Mandeville, Viscount Willoughby, Sir H. Duncombe, A. M anners, Lord C. Y or k e , E. T. Dunne, Colonel Manners, Lord J. Fellowes, E. Naas, Lord TELLtlie. Forester, Colonel Napier, Joseph Mackenzie, W. F. Fox, S. L. Newport, Viscount Lennox, Lord U. G. MINORITY-NOES, 40. Bell, Jacob Harris, Richard • B on ham-Carter, J. nastie, Archibald BSmteira'rtj, Boyle, Colonel Hatehell, jou, Stuart, Lord Dudl ey Brotherton, J. Hindley, C . ThOMPson, C o l one l B row n, W. Hutt, Wi lliam Thompson, G eorge C ar ter, Samuel King, P . J . Thornely, Thoma s Divett, E. Lacy, IL C . Willcox , Brodie .A Benjaminlniral Duke, Sir J. Lushingtou Charles Williams. W. D u ncan, G. Mackinnon, 1-Nr, A. Wil s on, Matthew Duncombe, T. Milligan, Robert Wrightson, W. B. Freestun, Colonel Molesworth, Sir W. Greene, John Osborne, R alph TELLES.% Grosvenor, Lord R. Peto, Samuel Clay, Sir W. Hall Sir B. Ricardo, (hum an L a yn court, C. T. Hardcastle, J, A. SalWeY• Colonel ---___ TO THE SECRETARy ----.. '''' --. " -- ( - 1 REFORM ASSOCIATION. THE BRADFORD (CONTINUED ON 310NDA OCIATION- Sir,—On Monday the 21s t of AND WEDNESDAYS.) important occurrence, was the of June, by far the most Mem ber for Youghal (Mr, 'e lute e Point raised by the called the Disabilities Repeal Y) ,„ ° D occasion of what is is to relieve Mr. Alderman s Isill, the object of which most outrageous of the pena lties from some of the ing tried the question of his right attendant on his hay- The Member for Youghal , to sit in the House. to say before, is an able l ewv a s there has been occ3sion by him, and unanswered b s ert and the point advanced maintained, that the verdij anybody, was this. He where the verdict was g i eree ° , f the j u ry in the case mons the defendant, was un or Mr. Alderman Sa lo • which the two divisions int o ° e xercise of the right , (o n tive lawyers have always been ostional and at Pre war), roga being judges of the law as titu i 7 and still are well of sequently that verdict was a as of the fact; and con power which of all others i s judicial declaration, by a tions of Englishmen, of the beill°Bt rooted in the effete decision by which the House c aherence of that strange Testament into the hands of a °f Commons put the Old being binding upon his cau se J l ur or on the ground of its a declaration that he swore ee enc e, and then demanded the " true faith" of a believer in t he Old Testament on was known he was not. something else which it Fancy that a Roman Senate at 4 .1. began to be a cessation of the cry'e period when there leones," had put the Gospels into the of " Chri sm ad Christian as the means of takin the hands of an avowed admission into their body, and jean oath required for ing him to say he swore upon it ct finished by requir believer in " Mars, Bacchus, A p Ti ht: the true faith of a through all the roar of derision would have -- c hambers of ancient and modereeoed deorum." What a history! Or imagine that the Grand Signor should p the hands of a Greek candidate lilt th e same book into mand that he should say he t ook ° l' office, and then de of a true believer in the mission the oath on the faith cannot see our own hump back: Mohammed. We necessary we should be shows ia . and therefore it is somebody else. e a , it would look on On Tuesday an amendment Wa s ment Bill, with a view to remoeb eg l°Posed in the Inter on Dissenters, and negatived by 6 ', „: °Pleasant inflestioss under old ties to the Dissenters as „to 40. As being applied to for attention to this p art 7 as having been the following remarks upon what teular case, I make hope nothing unfriendly will be set t la aed; in which I run against a strong point, when they d The Dissenters in t emend the right lia r of performing their own services has been set apart for the services of the ground which tflother church by what is called Consecration. I tak e Protestants in general attach very granted that lute importance to the consecration ef p ee ' ) more of abso lute to the consecration of bells, candle s, for burying, dl e oxen, and fishing-boats, all of which a re what mules, asses, re e consecrated by the usages of a *us' • •called anoth er . is if they attach any importance, it i, Church. Or tirely in consequence of its tendeeinainly or en , respect and rest (which. by t h e cY to obtain not obtain, when metropolitan gr eee .ZaY it does the bones of our predecessors a ga i ei " f l ggers knock as is their wont) for the remains of t h e e " each other (Alt ieeparted. The Dissenters therefore have a right to this comfort; but it does not necessarir to Partake iu they might not provide it for ther ase 4 follow, that always find their opponents in a strong Position,g* They will as those opponents can reply, as was r eel i_ e so long that the ground consecrated b y ' Church on Tuesday, tf -of-Eog land men, is open to Dissenters, ton is made to the performance ef no objec of England's service. The p a i nts tho the counsel for the Dissenters toChurch ,therefore for boned to be into, were whether the Church service have inquired reason to administered for a Dissenter in all eales* where no ob , 'ection is made,—which there is considerable believe it is not; end ' whether Dissente rs portion of the ground if they like, and proceed have a its being set apart f?r their purpos es b to secure .'" any religious ceremony they may chuse . These were th a counsel for the Dissenters should 1 was e asked; and have asked questions ssenters ' when because nobody asked them do it myself in fewer words than here proasedieg to stated 1 weS cried down by the frienda of the Di ad vise the Dissenters to vie them another • . s,, I somebody their friends will allow. "me) through I am, ;:;ir, yours AN Very sin cerelv OLD ' Blitekbeathi thus? 25,1552 . RE " - FORMER. LAW INTELLIGENCE. COURT OF QUEELV%s BENCH, June 22. (Sittings at Nisi Prius at Westmins:er, before Lord CAMPBELL and a Sp ec i a l J ury.) THE Q r TEEN (ON THE PROSECUTION CP ACHILLI) v. NEWMAN.—CRIMINAL INFORMATI 'N. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) The next part of the case which was gone into was the connexion of Dr. Achilli with the college established at Malta by a committee of gentlemen in England, at the head of whom was Lord ShafteAury. Dr. Achilli held the post of Italian theological tutor in that branch of the college which was devoted to the reception of p r i ests seceded from the Roman Catholic Church. The Earl of Shaftesbury-, D Hadfield, President of the College, and Mr. Watts, cleric r. al secretary to the committee, were examined relative to Dr. Achilles conduct there, which, though riot marked by any of the excesses which, according to th e evidence, appear to have disgraced his residence i n other places, was of a nature to cause his dismissal from the post which he there held. While resident there it ap peared that charges were brought by an Armenian priest, named Kaosi, who afterwards absconded, involving Dr. Achilli and two Italian priests, Saccores and Leonini, rela. tive to the introduction of women into the college.' The committee determined to investigate the charge, but failed in so doing in consequence of Dr. Achilli having suddenly sent away Saccores on.a mission to Sicily. For this act, and for having absented himself for an entire month from the college without leave, the committee in London dismissed Dr. Achilli from his post. The next part of the case gone into was the offences alleged to have been committed by Dr. Achilli in England. The first witnes4 called was Harriet Hairis, a good-looking young woman of about 20 years'of age, examined by Sir A, COCKBURN, who said—That in 1850, she was engaged by Dr.Acbilli as a domestic servant. He then lived at Shaftesbury-crescent, Pimlico. airs. Achilli was not then arrived. The first evening that I was there, Dr. Achilli came down stairs into the kitchen, and, taking hold of me, tried to put his arms round my waist and tried to kiss me. He also tried to put his hands in other places and to take improper liberties with me, but I would not let him. He tried to do it several times, but he did not succeed. He asked me, too, it 1 wanted a bedfellow. —(Laughter.) He never attempted to take liberties with me after Mrs. Achilli came back. Jane Legg, examined by Mr. BADDELEY—I was, in the beginning of last year, in the service of Dr. Achilli, at Shaftesbury-place, Pimlico. After I had been there three months, Dr. Achilli began to take liberties with me. I gave notice to leave, but he persuaded me to stay on. He had not done anything worse to me than kiss me then, but very soon after he came up to me one morning in my mis tress's bed-room, and had connexion with me. He had connexion with ma several times after, and in the end I be came in the family way and gave birth to a child on the sth of November last. There was a gentleman staying at Dr. Achilli's then, named Augustini, who also took liberties with me and had connexion with me. My baby died soon after it was born. Dr. Achilli never gave me any linen for my confinement. 1 never asked him. I have seen Dr. Achilli since my baby died. I told him that I had been subpoenaed to come here; he told tne.l had no oc casion to go, I must shut the door in the face of any one who came to fetch me. Cross-ex arn ina ted by the SOLICITOR-GENERAL —Mrs. Achilli never found fault with me about my conduct with men; she objected to a young man who used to come to see me, whom she found one night behind the back kitchen-door. There was also another young man who used to come to see me. _ __ The ATTORNEY-GENERAL—How many men were you in the habit of seeing ? Witness—l am not obliged to answer that question. Lord CAMPBELL—If you have no objection you had better answer it. Witness—Well, I had only two, the young man whom Mrs. Aehilli found, and another one. Lord CAMPBELL —They came to court you ? Witness - Yes, my Lord. Mrs. Achilli used to say she would not have any young man coming to see me after dark. I cannot swear who was the father of my child. Ido not know. Sir A. COCKBURN—Had any one else connexion with you besides Dr. Achilli and Augustini? The witness remained silent and gave no answer to this question, which was not pressed. Sarah Logan—l am the wife of John Logan, an en gineer, who lives at 11, Shaftesbary-crescent, Pimlico. lam the sister of the last witness. She was delivered at my house. Dr. Achilli came to my house to take lodgings for two friends. Subsequently a clerk from Mr. Lewin's came to inquire about my sister. I sent to inform Dr. Achilli about it. He came to me one day, in the evening, and said that Mrs. Castellini was em ployed by Dr. Newman's party—that Dr. Newman was a very bad man, and he hoped to have him sent to pri son. He said if the people came again I was to shut the door in their faces. I said it had been a great expense to us having to keep my sister, particularly es the baby bad died in our house. lie said " Yes, yes." Ile said nothing more, except that he would come again, and repeated that we were to shut the door in the faces of any persons who came to serve us with subpoenas. Two or three days afterwards be came again to us. We had then been subpceaaed. We showed him the subpoenas, and he said he thought they would not compel us to go, He said that ho thought my sister Jane had nothing to say against him. I said, "Of course, sir, you know what passed between you and Jane." He made no an swer. Nothing more was then said. Some days after he came again, about an anonymous letter which had been sent him about my sister. It said he ought to be ashamed to draw poor domestics into trouble, and not bear them through it; and that unless he sent 5/. to defray all expenses, he should farther bear of it. I said that I did not know who had sent it. Dr. Achilli said that it must have come from the same parties as the subpoenas. Cross-examined—Dr. Aehilli talked to me in English on every occasion. I cannot tell from where my eieter came to my house. Dr. Achilles friends remained in my house until after my sister was confined. I believe that it is owing to Mrs. Castellini that we were subpceaael. I diet not wish to come here to be mixed 111) in the business, and there-fore I said to my sister, on see ing her talking to Mrs. Castellini after we had received our suhpce:lar, " I had rather spit in her face than talk to her."—(Laughter.) I did not wish my sister to have any tbine to soy to her. Re-exernined—This was after I had seen Dr. Achilli, Sarah Wood—l am aged 19. lam now living with my parents at Windsor. I have lived in the service of Dr. Achilli. I entered his service in March of the year before last. I believe it wo e s 1851.—(Laughter.) I came to his house from an establishment called the House o f Mercy, at Windsor, presided over by Mrs. Tennent. When I left his house I went to my parents. I have been with them now about five months. He took liberties with me after I had been with him about a fortnight. I went upstairs to clean out Augustini's bed-room; and while I was there, Achilli came in; he followed me several times round the room and tried to put his hands round my waist, but he did not succeed, as I walked away from him. His proceedings were inter rupted by a knock at the door. He ran down stairs and commenced writing. I went down to see who it was, and found it was my mistress, who had re turned home for her parasol. After she went out again I went back to the bed-room, and ho followed and re newed his attempts. I walked away and began to cry, and threatened to write to Mrs. Tennent. He said if I did I should be a very naughty girl. He subsequently gave me a religious book, the title of which was " C we to Jesus." About a fortnight afterwards, when Mrs: &chilli was out, he called me into his dressing room .o dust the table. I knelt down for the purpose of dusting the legs, and while I Iva doing this ho bolted the door, and then taking me by the shoulders threw me with great force upon a bed. I resisted with all my might, but could not get away. He was intimate with me then against my will. I told him I would leave. I stayed five months afterwards, however. I left because I was so ill that I could not stay any longer. My father then came to take me away. Cross-examined—The House of Mercy is a place for women who have misconducted themselves. I was taken in there on the recommendation of Mrs. Tennent. I was in the house about nineteen months; I was sixteen when I went there. Mrs. Tennent recommended me to Mrs. Achilli. I am a Protestant. I fasted during part of Lent, while I was with Mrs. Tennent; but not while I was at Dr. Achilli's. I had not a hymn book to the Virgin Mary. Some people say that the House of Mercy is a Roman Catholic establish ment; but I believe it is not. Mrs. Achilli told me that Mrs. Tennant had been a Roman Catholic, but had left that religion. I told no one of the liberties which Dr. Achilli had taken with me until about four months ago, when ono of Mr. Lewin's clerks came to me at Windsor. I did not then tell him about the worst part of the liberties. Three or four days afterwards, however, my father and mother questioned me about the matter, and I told my mother all. They told me I should tell the truth, and I then got a woman to write to Mr. Lewin to tell him all that had passed between me , and Dr. Achilli. Re-examined—I had been seduced before I wont to the House of Mercy. I went there in consequence of having quarrelled with my family. By the COURT was away from my father's house about three days before I went to the House of Mercy. I had been seduced about six months previously. I first went there without his knowledge. I had been to school, but I left as I could nurse the baby. Only one person had had anything to do with me before I went to this house. Catherine Freeman—l live at 6, Great Smith-street, Westminster. I once lived in service with Miss Lam• bert. 3, St. James's-street. I lived with her from 1843 49• Dr. Achilli came to lodge there in 1847 , be f o re tho 8• e l went to Melton. About six months after he came he attempted to take liberties with me, by putting his hands about my waist. He asked me to confess to him : — (Laughter.) I got away from him. On one occasion bsequently he asked me to show him the name of a Ssitireet on the map. As I went up to the table for the purpose he pressed his body against me. I went away directly. lam a Catholic, and me ntioned these things to ney confessor. Dr. Achilli while at Miss Lambert was irregular in his habits, and used to come in late at n ight. Cross-examined —Miss Lambert was a dressmaker. I never told her of this conduct on the part of Dr. Achilli. I was first applied to about coming here by Mr. Simpson, o f Clapham common. He is a Roman Catholic, living upon his own property. I have also seen Father Hut inset), at the Oratory , about it . He came to me about a week after Mr. Simpson. Mr. James V. Harting—l am a solicitor in Lincoln's- Inu-fields. I was employed in November or December last to go abroad to collect the evidence necessary in this I went first to Rome, then to Vite r bo , then a g ain e se t Oßome, then to Malta, then back to Naples; after wards once more to Rome, and thence home. At Vi terbo I entered into communication with the bishop and his v icar-general, and with the priors of two convents. I communicated also with the police authorities at Vi terbo, and the apostolic delegate. The gontaloniere of Viterbo told me that he could not furnish me with any police documents to be used in this case, because they had all been destroyed in the lest revolution. I applied to the police authorities there fur the documents in their pessession. I applied to the Minister for Eecle• s e stieel Affiirs, and I now produce au examined copy of a report from the Minister of Police to the Minister of Ecclesiastical Affairs, with reference to cases in which 4914,11 i was cceperped.. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL objected to the reception of this document as evidence of the 21st plea (which ! set forth that in an official document of the metropolitan police Achilli was reported and declared to be known for habitual incontinency at Naples), because it bad been copied from a document in the archives of the Ministry of Ecclesiseticnl AfUre, which was not authenticated as a report of the Minister of Police. After a short discussion, Lord CAMPBELL held that the document was not sufficiently authenticated, and it was accordingly not received. Witness then continued—Afterwards went to Rome and applied at the Court of the Inquisition for a copy of the judgment of that court affecting- Dr. Achilli. I obtained a copy wider seal of the judgment of the court from the notary of the court. Teem is an office in the Vatican for the transmit of business of this court. Cross-exmoined by the SOLICITOR GENERAL—I have n o personal k now l e d g e of the practice of the Inquisition. I was told by the assessor of the Inquisition that this T w a a lbo the the notice of t he - way to authenticate documents. Monsignors to the per son ; by k Monsigt,ntohree Pi Talb ot lbalot inquisitor.—(Sensation.) t) qe : f o r e r te e. r 57 of the Pope, introduced me quisitor.—(Sen . • satton ) I had known whom I was in turn introduced to The Right Rev. Catholic bishop. Lord CAMPBELL D r. Grant—l am all English Roman (Laughter.) Witne , s—l wa s aiill resident not ask : you of what see. years. 'I was for som e c"n Rome nearly fifte en Coll, go then at Rome. Dalt" matters with which I was crhingt; m y Y residence there the the head of the English anco with the business of thou're-ed led to an acquaint- Office or Inquisition, of Rome. 1 know the court of the Huly in the Vatican. I havo seen documents Its office is which I peti jahey had be under the seal of the court. I " a l ;: a n • a applied purporting to the h t to ti t le o d f ne t u he . court for documents, and documents f v o m e r e vy . tioned have since been furnished to affixed to them a seal, purporting to b e court. They were similar to that affixed to merit now produced, which I believe to be a document emanating from the court. . _ - Cross-examined—l have received documents from the Inquisition, but I do not know that I have seen this particular form of seal before. I have been told that the office of the Inquisiti( n has been removed to the Vatican, where it was whe❑ I knew it, but I have no personal knowledge of the fact. The Court of the In quisition has the supreme jurisdiction over the Catholic clergy in matters ecclesiastical—that is with respect to the higher crimes. lam perfectly acquainted with the law with rebp-ct to these courts, having been frequently consulted by Cardinal Acton on points of law connected with the jurisdic ion of these courts. The jurisdiction of the Court of Inquisition exists in different i,tates by the consent of the Government•, who have to some extent dictated its proceedings. Its jurisdiction varies in different states. Tile Attorney and Solicitor General and Mr. Ellis then briefly contended that there was no sufficient proof that the document produce,: was an authentic copy of the judgment of the Inquisition. Lard CAMPBELL remarked, in the course of the argu ment, that this was the first time since the Reformation that the judgment of the Court of Inquisition had been tendered in evidence in an English court of justice. His Lordship then, after hearing defendant's counsel in reply, said:—The opinion of the Court can be asked as to whether this document can be received in evidence or not. lam clearly of opinion that it can. Looking at this document I find that it is a copy of the pro ceedings of the Court of Inquisition. Thank God that we have not in this country a tribunal of inqui sition.—(Applause.) But I am bound to believe there is in every Roman Catholic country such a tribunal, and that such a jurisdiction is exercised at Rome, but, thank God, it does not extend to this country.—(Ap plause) This country will, however, be ready to receive documents emanating from courts of justice in other countries; and I am inclined to think that in receiving this document I am not in the slightest danger of doing tnat which may prove injurious to the Pro testant religion of this country. The document was then adraWed, his Lordship remarking, while it was being read—"l do not receive this as I should a record of a Court of Admiralty as conclusive evidence of the facts, but only as evidence in support of the defendant's allegation that there is such a judgment in the Court." The original document being in Latin, the following translation was read : "1, the undersigned notary of the Holy Roman and Universal Congregation of the Inquisition, do testify that, after a comptete investigation of the proceedings instituted in the holy office against Father Hyacinth Achilli, priest, religious professor of the order of preachers, it is proved from the same acts that the said Aohilli, having been examined by the established au thorities, confessed himself guilty of having held carnal intercourse whilst he was living in the monastery of Viterbo with many women; also of having deflowered another who was a virgin in the city of Mount Feliscue , and of having carnally known two other women at Capua. Moreover, it is discovered that he made another girl at Naples a mother, and that the superior of the order of preachers paid fifty solidi to another woma n who had been corrupted by the said Achilli, in order to make amends for the injuries done. Lastly, I attest that on account of the crimes of the above-named, and other crimes of which mention is made in the acts after mature and deliberate examination of the heavy charges resulting from the acts, after having weighed the charges put forth and considered other matters according to custom, and after having mercifully ace( toted the confm.- sion of the accused himself and his own declaration of the following tenor:—`l do not ask to b chastised, nay, rather I desire to be severely dealt with on my own showing, according as justice demands. I will re ceive wits resignation whatever punishment may be de termini-d upon, and supposing there were vvatuirg suf ficient reason for proceeding with greater rigour, I de sire that confession he consult-red sufficient grounds for punishing me as the said tribunal shall think best,' their Eminences the Ingutsitors General on Wednesday, June 16, 1841, in the Convent of Santa Maria-super- Mieor.,;am, decreed that the accused Father Hyacinth after having been for ever suspended from the celebration of the s.crifi.,e of the mass, and fir ever dis abled from any sort of direction of OEII,, and preaching the Word of God, and deprived of active and pa ssive voice in th e g overnment of hi s o rder, and af t e r having had salutary penances imposed upon him, be condemned to remain for three years in some religious house of his order of the most strict observance. " Given in testimony of all these facts for the Chan cellor's office of the holy office, on this day, September 22, 1851." The defendant's counsel then tendered in evidence a document purporting to bo a copy of a patidon presented by a man named Nicole Garamoni, to the civil tribunal at Corfu, in which he alleged as a defence to an action for alimony brought against him by his wife that she had been committed for adultery wish Achilli. This document was tendered as proof of the 22d plea, but its authenticity having been objected to as insufficient, his Lordship rjected it. William Nicholi was then called, and said—l am a Dominican friar. Every one becoming a member of that order takes the three usual vows of poverty, obedience, and chastity. Every priest, whether cif that order or not, comes under the obligation to chastity. Sir ALEXANDER COCEBURN was then about to adduce evidence to s how that it the defendant's charges against Dr. Achilli were true, their publication was for the pub lic utility, when The ATTORNEY GENERAL said that ho would not trouble his Learned Friend to prove this, but would at once admit it. Sir ALEXANDER COCKBURN stated that that was the case for the defendant, and the Court then (at a quarter past eight o'clock) adjourned to half-peat nine o'clock to-morrow. MIDDLESEX SESSIONS, June 22. ATTEMPTED ASSAULT ON TUE ASSISTANT•JUDGE.--- William Jones, a ruffisnly-looktng fellow, 21 years of age, was charged with stea l i n g a purse and 1/. 3s. 7d., the property of Mary Ann Fry, from her person. This case was also prosecuted by the Great Western Railway Company. Mr. D. Se y mour appeared for the prosecution, and Mr. Ribton for the defence. The prisoner was apprehended at the Paddington station, on the evening of the 29th of May, by Linden, an officer employed by t company, fur an attempt to pick pockets, which formed the subject of another indict ment against him. The moment he was taken he threw away a purse containing 11. 3s. 7d., which subsequently was discovered to be the property of a Miss Fry, who just before had arrived by the train from Berkshire. She had felt it safe a minute or two before arriving at the station, but immediately afterwards missed it. The prisoner was taken by Mr. Collard, the superintendent of the company's police, when he kicked and fought, and at last was overcome by as many persons as could lay hold of him, and bound down on a stretcher, closely The jury return h no e g a d : tt a hh t i h e v s e e cy r h d e p a i a r e rr i t a s sc o o tl n f es e r G s r , o u b a i a l a n t n d y dd . h f o al u dB r 5 e m ae tensGtbeen e. secured, hand and foot. offencesapprehendedb how d n u r t i cc oe sn l t C ve irwotfaeosdrs. The ASSISTANT JUDGE said he supposed that, findi ng ;hat place too hot to hold him, he had come up to town ,o carry out the same practice. He then sentenced him o be transported for ten years. _ As the Prisoner was being removed from th e dock to pass down the staircase leading into it from the cells below, he inanag:d very dex'erougly to s li p his hand into his pocket, and, drawing from it a small siune ink bottle, flung it at the Learned Judge. So true wi t s hi s a i m that, although the transaction occupl, d b ut a moment, the missile whizzed by within an inch or so of Mr. Sergeant Adams's head, and struck the canopy behind his chair with considerable force.. - tc Serg eant Adams had been hi!, a severe, if not d ' s ' n g a - e r t. ° . must have been inflicted. lie immediately ordered the prisoner to be brought back, ahe was accordingly cured and brought forward turdthe front of the dock by the officers. The Learned Sergeant then said that, 'n consequencecoene et his daring outrage, he should pats tu n to stnce on h . im, and he then sentenced 15 years' transportation iritead of 10. fa d e d, and The prisoner was then removed proper/Ige the buziness of the court was continued. 11,wound sin effi. V IDVER TISEMENT.]-11 0 11 0way ' s Pills efjg again of cacious in Curing a Severe Ca se o f Rheum — i in ' oa d, Salford. a letter from Mr. Wm. Dated, April 12th, 1852.-.,, To Professor Davis, of 36, Rerfoliorway. rheumatic pains pains in I have been troubled for some months all m Pillss, and. have tried every I re commended to try of wt any or —3 iso , .. eff,ct ; at last I was me, could r hear or think your, a few doses of which relieve d li a nd am now in the en thin i g rith and before I bad finished the second box I was quit vi e w'etta'ker, druggist, of this joyment of sound health. Mr. '• hi s tatement.' —Sold by all place, will cheerfully verify ,t,Vt s Establishment, 244, Druggists .., and at Professor 11° ' Strand, London. Corns The Rev. William bad an wail, Colonial Chaplain, i n t erv i ew with Sir John Caatewegoast Castle, eha 9910111'9190s • fil ."' k 04 7010 0 -- - - _ _ _ ._ . NAVAL 1N TELLIGENCE. PORTSMOUTH, TUESDA.Y.--A. court-martial is ordered to assemble to.morrow morning: on board the Victory, Captain G. B. Martin, C. 8., on Lieutenant Serocold, for a breach of discipline, as embodied in the following charge:—" For that the said Lieutenant George Edward Serocold Pearce Serocold, when a Lieutenant of her Majesty's ship Retribution, and in actual service and full pay of her Majesty's fleet, did on the 17th day of June, 1852, on board the said ship, neglect his duty as officer of the watch; and when the said Lieutenant G. E. S. P. Serocold was thereupon called to account by Lieutenant George Ommaney Willes, the Senior Lieutenant of the said ship, f: , r his cloth:let, the said Lieutenant G. E. S. P. Serocold did on board the said ship state that it was very impertinent for the said Lieutenant G. 0. Wines to speak to him, the said Lieutenant G. E. S. P. Serecold." The Barracouta paddle-sloop, under the command of a r r n o e u g n i d e f s o u r p e t r ri n a u lleft e r f 2 .1 a i e a s t evening e ships fitting out at the eastward. forCa p t o h n e . n o S ia k T i . r. 6 Ccr ihe Sprightly steam-:ender, Mr. George Allen, Acting Master Commanding, sailed to-day for Plymouth, taking supernumeraries and also seamen for Rear-Admicaa Corry's squadron at Cork. The following officers had audiences of the Duke of Northumberland, et the Admiralty, yesterday:—Cap tains—H. B. Young, T. R. Sulivan, E. Stanley, R. J. Suliven, T. S. Brock, T. P. Thompson, J. Marett. Commanders—F. E. Johnston, W. N. Powell, E. B. Westbrook, A. Morrell, T. H. Christian, T. B. Bond, W. Boys, G. 041 e. Lieutenants—J. Sanders, W. C. de Vere, W. C. Nowell, T. W. Langton, T. Saumarez, H. P. Dicken, S. H. Rickets, G. Mason, J. Norris, E. L. Pym ; Mr. Kennedy. Rear-Admiral Hyde Parker, C. 8., the senior naval Lord, received the following officers yesterday:—Cap tains—S. Brock, F. D. Hastings', R. Sulivan. Comman ders—W. N. Powell, Morrell, H. H. Bingham, W. Boys, Glynn, Christian. Lieutenants—G. S. Taylor. T. San saartz, T. Cresor, J. Sanders, R. Dew, J. J. Kennedy, S. H. Ricketts, U. P. Banes, H. P. Dicken. Paymaster J. E. Brooman. The following officers attended Rear-Admiral Sir —Captain E. Stanley. Comman mdPebrrA.l3rP.::::::::::m.': t l i o e i r v wg e a e a i n .. ll :, Westbrook, H. H. Bingham, Morrell. Lieutenants—T. Kennedy, C. W. Hallett, Robinson, J. Dayman, Sanders, Thomas Tonkin, Both- Ws3, and Renaud. son . of the store-receiver, and temporary l Lee- of s a the t vicoboteiwf Woolwich cleric, o ll e a k v y e a b r d e r appointed duri th o annual survey, RAI iheGpEroNhibitionto its WAY -----r- CE. EXPECTED -PERIN, VALLEY RAID signified w AY W i - t i s tl i in nt n e a nt f i r C.: II G o t IO I N t r''' r eHEnEeI STOURLt wit! be opened to the public. d inath opening, which expireson Ac)X.—We rireVicoeniCveESTthEaßt, AND .-: day s thTeheStßetiorarVd a o ll i " Tr ß a a d i e lw h a a y a harkpton Chronicle, the number n eep s rL t a vo n Et t . : inn Ail ; 1 e : T i n : i e r o :1 - 1 bourhod, are mak of the Oxford, p h r osper b i e tyi e f r th t e o c w it n y . R A l it v E parties immediately intereste and trade of Worcester and its ne ' ' ' in; great efforts to secure the selection for the locomotive and other worksh( P i" ('`l central Worcester . Worcester, and Wolverhampton RaillWaa position o' Worcester app ars to sanctil'aucTl" a Wpelided We should think, however, that the Wolverh terest is more likely to secure the site iu the laUaltatPtou i The probable amount of wages which would by the company is estimated at about 700/ sum which would be important in whatever lo 1 - e --4 Ca It y dia. trihuted.—Railway Record. _. THE EGYPTIAN R A ILWAY.—.I . b e Assemblee Na tionale states, in addition to the official details lately brought of the treaty concluded by Fuad Effendi with the Viceroy of Egypt, that in what concerns the Sues Railway tne Porte has expressly stipulated that this work should be executed only with the pecuniary re sources of Egypt. Recourse to English capital is pro hibited, because it might lead to the alienation of a part of the territory, which would be contrary to a funda mental law of the Ottoman empire. The railway is also to be served by Egyptians. Tne execution of the works alone is to be confided to an Egyptian engineer. Fuad Eff,ndi has been raised to the rank of Mushir, or Mar shal of the Empire. He is daily expected to arrive at Constantinople. EASTERN UNION AND EASTERN COUNTIES RAILWAYS. —Tbe Legislature having removed the only obstacle to the construction of the Harwich line, we hope the di rectors of these companies will forthwith prosecute the works with vigour. The Dutch G overnment h av i ng granted the concession for a line of telegraphic commu nication from the Hague to Harwich i n di cates t h at it i s alive to the importance of this route, which, in a national point of view, cannot be over e s ti mate d, as at present our only means of rapid communication with the conti nent of Europe is met France. We hope also that the Harwich branch way have the effect of bringing these two companies into closer connexion; it will no doubt be a great feeder to the traffic of both, as by its unrivalled harbour it possesses advantages superior to any port from Southampton to the Humber. The distance between the southeastern route and the eastern counties being about the same, a considerable portion of the Ostend traffic must pats over the new line. If the remainder of the dispute is only a question of what the two lines are relatively worth, could not some mutual friend deter mine the facts submitted to him for arbitration?—Rail way Times. RAILWAY RARE MARKETS. BiIiSTOL JUNE 22. Srocx conniderable amount of business was transacted in our share market to-day a', firm prices. The oaks ra.ported wpeA-I.3ristol and Exeter, 99—Great Western, 94%—Taff Vale, sew, 23g p. I,IVERPOOL, JUNE 22 STOCK Excriawax.—There was an improved feeling ex hibited in the share market to-day, and a large business has beet} dune at higher prices. The transactions were as ful;ow:—Birkenhead, Lancashire, and Cheshire (late Chester and Birkenhead), '221. Shares, 5% dis.—Aberdeen, 14 3 4 Caledonian, 21 %--Eastern Counties, 10 9.l6—East Lanca shire, 19 1 / 4 —Ditto, Preference, Quarters, —Lancashire and Yorkshire. 78;4—Ditto, Fifths, 4 , 4 dis.—Lancaster and Carlise,Thirds, 70 7 / 8 p.—Loudon and North-Western, 1259 _Ditto, N. Quarter,, 6 p —Ditto, Fifths, 4 , / 2 p.—Man cheater, Sbeffieid, and Lincolnshire, 3.l—Midland. 71%-- North Union (A), guaranteed by London and North- Western and Lancashire and Yorkshire, 261—South-Eastern and Dover, 21 5 / B —York, Newcastle, and Berwick, 18 1 4—.. York and North .Eidland, 259—Dutch Rhenish, 2 cis. Nl4 , J.NCiil4.6l'n.tt, JUNE 22. STOCK EXCHANGE. -The share market presented an im proved appearance to-day, and prices generally had a ten dency upwards. The transactions were as follow :-Bir kenhead. Lancashire, and Cheshire, Junction, 10 1% East Lancashire, 19- ittc, Preference, Quarters, Ca'edonian, 21 -Lancashire and Yorkshire, 783/4-Ditto, Fifths, 454 dis.-llitto, Preference, 15 lA - London and North-Western, New Quarte - s, 6 p.-Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire, 3-1%-Ditto (No. 1), 10 YB—Ditto ' Prefer ence, 13 5-16-Midland, 71 %South - Eastern and Dover, 21 11- :6 - Kendal and Windermere, 12 yi-Grkat Northern, 22 -Eastern Counties, 101%-York and North Midland, 25 - Manchester and tlirmn,Khain (C) Quarters, 2 3-16 p . North Staffordshire, 6 dis.-Loy don Stock, 126-Shrews bury and Chester, 18 Y 2 -N or: h British, 8,, iiN.N.U.Ntiaa.l. li, JUNE -2. S T OCK EXCHANGX. — The share market remain s not only ex t re mely firm. but there is a decided tendency u Th e transacactions reported were-- Birmingham, pwards w o i , ' hampton, and Stour Valley, 10%-London and ,y 4 (A) 8 °1111 " Western, 126-Shrewsbury and Binninpam IRELAND. DUBLIN, JUNE 22.—The sale of the great Martin in Connemara for 186,000/. was fina.,ly decided property yesterday by the Encumbered Estates Commissioners. The circumstance that an offer to that amount was made became known a week ego, but the Co mmisioners took should accept it, or allow the es ate to be sold in lots on the 14th of until this day to determine whether th,-37 1, next month, according to the advertisement. The sub ject was discussed at greet length to-day before the Chief Commissioner in chamber sion arrived at was, that the offer of 186,000/. was ac cepted, and the Law Lire Assurance Society are now the No money, proprietors of this noble tract of country. however, is to be paid, inasmuch as the c°o._rnrinZwili4 incumbrancers to the extent of 200,0001. lb Zion. John are the names of the trustees:— Tee RightSir Edward Lord Campbell, Sir Geore James Turner, ' and the ultimate deci- The Evenin g Mai( of last night chasers, for 186.000/ . H3ll Alderson, and James William Farrel*, announced the fact the par that the t✓olleulidj,tt;d Annuities Commi ttee of the whole of of Lords has r ecommended the remiss?, Ireland during n publio works i the money expended on public ttee of the House the famine. C OUR T CIRCULAR. tier Majesty an d Prince Albert, attended by th e Countess o f Desert, the Hon. Lucy Kerr, Lord Byron, a Mej or-General Buckley , and Co lonel Bouverie, honoured the pe r f ormance o f the German Pla y with th e i r present el last e ven i ng. Her Royal Hi g hness the R uches of Rent, attended by Lady Fanny Howard end Sir George Couper, also honoured the performance with her presence. erietness Prince Albert, attended b y His Royal was p resent Colonel Bouverie, was yesterday morning at a , eli d a y in Hyde park at half-past eiht o'clock. brigade Li 1 Righness commanded the brigade , - consist- His th ey-af h Ist battalion Coldstream Guards, the 2d bat ing ° - 1 Fusilier Guards, and a detachment of the taken acote _ Grenadier Guards. ,i No Royal dighnes3 Prince Albert, attended by Lord 1 His de Ko s a nd Coleuel Bouverie, left Buckingham Palace at twenty -five minutes before five o'clock yesterday after noon for the Tower of London. Their Royal Highnesses the Prince of Wales and prince Alfred, attended by Mr. Gibbs,ed Mr. Gor don Cumrning'3 African Exhibition yei:'eiday morning. Their Royal Highnesses the Princess Royal and the princess Alice took a drive in an open carriage and, tour yesterday. Loid Byron has relieved Lord Crof,en in his dudes as Lord in Waiting to the Queen, and Sir Frede'rick Stovin has relieved Major-General Berkeley Drummond in his duties as Groom is Waiting to her Majesty. Her Hovel Highness the Duchess of Kent, attended by B4IOIICPS de Spetb, went yesterday to the Old Palac e on R;chmond-green, and visaed their Royal Highnesses the Duke and Duchess de Montpensier. A deputation trom Boston, g of Mr. Wise, of Blqtoli, Sir J , , , hn TrotloPe. Bart., M.P., Mr. Cabbell, M.P., and Mr. Freshfi , t,i, M P., had an i nterview with the Right LLtv. , urable J. W. Henley, yesterday, at the Board of Trede. 1) spatehes were received at the C ,lonial office from the Governors t,t West LIM , . Istan,is, yesterday. THE ORLEANS PROP.. RTY.—Seviral packages have errived by a steamer front Boulogne, addressed to his Royal Highness the Duke de Is; tinours, of the an d co ntaining furniture and other articles, the Property France. The whole o f the packages him been rell'eilld tw ex the illhettim walh at clam*. .Rozal Family of