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Berkeley, from the borough of Cheltenham ; by Lord Ernest Bruce, from the corporation of Marlborough ; by the same Noble Lord, from the inhabitants of the town of Marlborough ; by Mr. William Cripps, from the bo rough of Cirencester ; by Mr. Etwall, from the corporation of Andover ; by the same Hon. Gentleman from the clergy, gentry, landowners, agriculturists, and other inhabitants of the town of Andover and its neighbourhood ; by Mr. Compton, from the landowners and agriculturists of Stockbridge and its neighbourhood ; by Mr. Bennett, from the corporation of Salisbury ; by Mr. Phillips, from the corporation of Poole ; by Etwall, from the corporation of Ramsey ; by the same Hon. Member, from the inhabitants of Romsey ; by Mr. Neeld, from the borough of Cricklade and the town of Swindon; by Mr. Sidney Herbert, from the inhabitants of the borough of New Sarus ; by Mr. G. W. Hope, from the commissioners of the port and harbour of Southampton ; by Lord Charles Wellesley, from the inhabitants of Redbridge, Milibrook, and Ealing ; by Sir William Heathcote, from the inhabitants of Broughton ; by Mr. Sidney Herbert, from the borough of Devizes; by Mr. Phillips, from the inhabitants of Poole; by Mr. llamilton, from 1,603 ratepayers and inhabi tants of the Isle of Wight ; by Mr. Compton, from the inha bitanta of Fordirgbrite ; by Mr. Sidney Herbert, from the inhabitants of Downton ; and by Sir William Heatbcote, from the owners, lessees, and occupiers of land upon the line.— Ordei ed to be referred to the Committee on the Bill. Mr. ESTCOURT moved that it be an instruction to the Select Committee on Petitions for Private Bills, to take into their earli, st consideration the several following petitions for Bills which have been referred to them, viz.:—Perth and Inverness Railway ; Inverness and Elgin Junction Railway ; Morayshire Railway ; Aberdeen, Banti, and Elgin Rail say ; Kilmarnock and `noon Railway ; Paisley, Barrhead, and Ilurlet Railway ; Kilmarnock and Ayr Direct Railway ; and Hamilton and Strathaven Railway. Mr. HODGSON hoped the House would not agree to the motion, although it was brought forward by the chairman of the Standing Orders' Committee. Should the motion be agreed to it would put many parties to a very great e xpense. If the Hen. Member came down asking to put Bilis out of their order, it was quite clear that the persons promoting other Bills could have no idea whet time they would be called on, and this would necessarily invelve a very heavy expense on the part of some promoters. Mr. E. ELLICE, jun., said that he know one instance where a railway was within two of the top of the list, and therefore very likely to be called on soon, but by some new arrange ment of the Standing Orders Committee—an arrangement entered into without the knowledge of the parties—they were put back for three weeks, aed the parties who were opposing them were obliged, in consequence, to support these witnesses in town at a great expense. Mr. STRUTT said that if the Committees on Select Peti tions wished to do their duty to the public, they would take the Bills in their regular order upon the list. He invariably did so, unless he had the consent in writing of promoters and objectors to its postponement. The motion was then put and agreed to. LONDON AND OXFORD RAILWAY BILL. Mr. COBDEN presented a petition in favour of this Bill. Mr. S. CRAWFORD presented a petition, praying that the Downpatrick Gas Works Bill be passed. TETE MILITIA. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE presented several petitions against tha enrolment of the militia. The same lion. Member pre sented a petition from the handloom weavers of Wickham. praying for some modification of the existing laws in their regard. Mr. COBDEN presented several petitions praying for a total and irnmed , re repeal of the corn-laws, which were ordered to lie on the talA.. ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE. On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EX CHEQUER, it was agreed that the Houle at its rising do adjourn till Monday next. RAILWAY AMALGAMATION. Mr. WILSON PATTEN gave notice that, on Monday, he would move for a Select Committee to inquire whether railway amalgamation wet e consistent with the commercial interests of the country. Mr. R. YORKE asked the Secretary of State for the Home Depar!ment, whether he could give any specific information in respect to the return to England of Joseph Mason, who was sentenced to twenty years' transportation at the York March Assizes, in 1843, upon a conviction which turned out to have been given in eri or, and which was established so to have been given in December, 1845. Sir J. GRAHAM said that a commission had been ap pointed to inquire into the circumstances, and at first there appeared no reason to be dissatisfied with the verdict. Subse quently information was given that an alibi could be proved. The circumstances of that alibi were so strange, that it was thought right to leave the evidence to the consideration of one of the judges. The whole matter was therefore left to the ccnsideration of Mr. Justice Coleridge, and in consequence of his decision a free pardon was sent out to Mason, who was now on his return to England. Mr. WYSE wished to ask a question of the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of the Homo Department (Sir Jas. Gra ham) with respect to education in Ireland. By the report of the Commissioners of 1838 from the Board of National Edu cation in Ireland, he learned that it was a recommendation on the part of that board that schools should be established throughout the several districts of that country. During the course of lest session the Go; crnment gave a promise that an Act of incorporation for the national education in Ireland should be passed that Heuse. He had therefore three ques tions to ask—first, as to whether any intention was entertained of making an alteration in the constitution of the Board of Education in Ireland, as was promised last session ; Secondly, whether any measure was to be brought in for giving effect to that alteration in the several towns mentioned in the report; and thirdly, whether there was any intention of carrying out this recommendation in the way of the establish ment of schools in the agricultural districts? Sir JAMES GRAHAM was glad to have the satisfaction to answer the Hon. Member for Waterford (Mr. Wyse), and to say that a charter of incorporation was being prepared for the National Board of Education in Ireland. In reply to the second question, he was also able to say that measures were in preparation for the establishment of those sehoals to which the Hon. Member had alluded. And in reply to the third question, he had to say that the Govern ment were as equally anxious to spread education through the agricultural districts as through the municipal population ; but it would depend upon the reports of the National Board of Education in which way their efforts were to be directed. CONSOLIDATED FUND BILL. On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHE QUER, the Consolidated Fund Bill (8,000,000/.) received it third reading and passed. BOARD OF EDUCATION—IRELAND. Mr. WYSE moved that the charter of incorporation under which the National Board of Education in Ireland had been incorporated should be laid upon the table. THE OREGON TERRITORY. Mr. PETER BORTHWICK rose to ask the Right Hon. theyirst Lord of the Treasury, whether it was the intention of her Majesty's Government to present to this House copies or extracts of any correspondence which may have passed between the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs and her Majesty's Minister at Washington, in relation to the Oregon territory. It might be in the recollection of the House, that at the be ginning of the present session of Parliament her Majesty had, from the throne, regretted that the conflicting claims of Great Britain and the United States had not been satisfactorily settled, although they had been made the subject of repeated negotiation. Up to that moment the House and the country had yielded a silent but entire confidence in the carrying out of that measure. ' It was not his intention to disturb that silence, or to intimate in the slightest degree a diminution of that confidence. But it was impo:sible to conceal the fact, that although that House appre ciated, and fully understood, the spirit in which her Majesty's Ministers acted, yet, on the other side of the Atlantic there did exist misguided and ignorant persons, who put upon the words pronounced by her Majesty from the throne, and the subsequent proceedings of her Majesty's Government in that House, a construction which was not intended to be produced. Bluster and bravado al ways indicated timidity, and with feelings of bluster and braved , had the war party in America received the intimation which had, been given by this country. He thought it was time that England should distinctly declare her views. He had preferred rather to put a question to the Right Honourable Gentleman than make a motion upon the subject, as he thought the subject itself was not one to be discussed in a popular assembly. He had hoped that the Right Hon. Baronet would, of his own accord, recommend the production of such of these papers, or extracts from them, as might be necessary to inform the House of the nature of the negotiations which had taken place. Ile would, therefore, simply ask the Right Hon. Gentleman whether it was the intention of her Majesty's Government - to present to the House those papers, or extracts from any cor respondence which passed between our Minister at Washington and the Minister :of the United States with relation to the Oregon territory. Sir ROBERT PEEL—Mr. Speaker, I do not think it will be necessary for me to make any observations with respect to the general subject to which the Right Hon. Gentleman has alluded.— (Cheers.) I think explanation wholly unnecessary because I think the expressions of her Majesty's Government, and other expressions used by public men in this and the other Home of Parliament, have not been misconstrued in the United States.—(Hear, hear.) Ido not think that there would be any public advantage by laying the papers re ferred to on the table of the House in the present state of the question—in the present state of the differences between this country and the United States with respect to the Oregon territory. —( Hear, hear.) I do not think that any ad vantage would arise ; and therefore it is not the listen than of her Majesty's Government to make any such com munications at the present moment. At the same time lam bound to say, that certain, communications and certain notes have passed between Mr. Buchanan and Mr. Pakenham, with respect to the claims of the Government of the United States to the Oregon territory, although I should not have thought it necessary to have laid these communications on the table of the House; but as it may perhaps be necessary to authenticate the circumstances contained in them, and as publicity has been given to their—( Laughter)—l shall have no objection to lay them on the table of the House.—( Cries of " No, no.") , ‘l f r e th h e avno Proposition to ma ke t o th e H o u se , on the part , Government, with respect to the disputes with the United States relative to that territ ory, because the neeotiatintis have net b een brought to a conclu sien, an d' because it is quite unusual to make such dis closures as those required by the. lion. Gentleman until they have been brought to a conclusion ,( H ear, maa hear.) But as these communications have been public, and as the House may wish to know whether they areau o th i z e n e t t i i c o no to o n l o a t y , if it is the wish of the House, I should hav e no them on the table. Lord J. RUSSELL said, as far as he was concerned,to did not wish for the production of the papers ref e rred the Right Hon. Baronet could state that the negotiations had reached such a point at which it would be either satisfactory or unsatisfactory to lay them on the table of the House. He,however, thought that it shou!cl be left to the Right Hon. Gentleman to produce them whets he thought proper, because the public service might stiffer by their production during the continuanc e of necctialions. lie wished, however, before he concluded, to refer to another subject. He wished to ask a question of the Right Hon. Baronet as to the course which he intended to pursue with respect to the corn-laws. They had now been eight week; assembled since her Majesty addressed her most gracious speech from the throne with respect to those laws. The Right Honourable Gentleman, after the first statement of his measures, gave, I thick, a fortnight before any consideration of those measures shouid. be brought before the House. They had now been engaged three weeks in a preliminary dis cussion after the introduction of the Bill. Now, it did seem to him that after so much discussion, and that after the Right Honourable Gentleman bad declared his intention to go on with the discussion from day to day, that great and unnecessary delay had taken place. He should have thought that that would have been the case, but he now found that it was his intention the first day after the second reading of the Corn Bill to propose the first reading el the Bill for protection to life in Ireland. If he considered the former measure of such great importance, he considered that the latter Bill should not have been brought forward till after the third reading of the Corn Bill; and he was of opinion that by the course proposed no time would be gained. He wished, therefore, to express a hope that the Rig:it Honourable Gentleman, the First Lord of the Treasury, would adhere to the arrangement originally proposed ; and, as sufficient discussion had taken place on the Corn Bill to shield the Right Hon. Gentleman from any charge of undue precipitancy • '. . ~ r» ~`; ~ •~~-<. . . ..'k : s • 'A - ''' «` - Tn - , .- ' , ... --.*. '•, • . _.:,,,,, • ,:. . , . ' • • ...- 4 i • .:I .., 1 '''.. 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Now, he would venture to put it as a fact worthy of illustrati on, and ca p able of illustration in the House, whether the greater benefit derived by the country had not been obtained through the instrumen tality of those who had thought fit to change their opinions and support the measures of t he Ri g ht Honourable Baronet at the head of the Govern ment, or those wh o remained under the effect of the conviction years ago, notwithstanding all the circumstance s whieh had occurred. Why, what was the evidence on w hich the Government had said that the altered their opinion ? His Hon. Friend s ship owners, having been made the victims of free-trade, had now come forward to petition against the measure of the Govern ment, and referred to the petition for a proof of the opieions which they entertained ; but from it it appeared that a gradual increase had taken place in the number of tons exported into this country ; in fact, during the last two or three years. these exportations had increased more than a ration of tons. There had been a corresponding increase in the steam boat trade. Then, with respect to the Canadian tim ber trade, he quoted returns, to show that the reduction of duties had increased the trade, and that shipowners had consequently Leaped it corresponding advantage. The returns from Liverpool showed the same result, and be could assure the House that the trade had increased since the duties had first been reduced. Mite 3 careful considera tion of all these facts, the Select Committee, h‘lab sat in 183.5, stated that it was their opinion that the difference of dgty of 45 . . as compared with North American timber was too great, and ought to be reduced; and, that having a due regard to the interest which had been created by the system of protection, a reduction of the protective duty, soot exceeding 15s. a load, might be made. If they considered the facts of the ease, Hon. Gentlemen might see that the same kinds of timber were not employed for the same ourposes ; and by increasing the demand for that used in constructing the larger powien of hous -s ' they would increase the demand for the oth er kinds of wood; also for brickr, and other exciseable article:; used, above all, they would increase the demand for labour. And he did consider that his Hon. Friends had, on very rational conclusions, introduced the measare; for himself, he believed that like causes would produce like effeete, and be would ask the House to agree to this proposition. Mr. H, HIN DE wished to know what would be the value of the Canada, if they should establish a complete system of free trade ?---( Hear, hear. ) Mr. A. CHAPMAN said that it was with the deepest feel ings of regret that he differed on this question from the Go vernment of the Right Hon. Gentleman a and his object in rising was, to draw the attention of the House to the injury which might be ieflieted by a transfer of the Canadian trade to the Baltic. Timber had ever been considered as a fair subject for taxation, and he very much feared that the proposed mea sure would be by no means beneficial to their shipping inte rest ; and he should be exceedingly glad if he found his expec tation deceived, arid if the benefits which had been stated by her Mejesty'e Government should arise from the measure. Captain HARRIS considered that if this measure received the sanction of the House, it would inflict a lasting injury on the service to which he belonged. He had before stated that the tariff of the Right lion. Gentleman had worked extremely well, but he did believe that they had arrived on that tariff to the minimum of protection which could be given by a paternal Government.—( Hear, hear.) He had not been able to arrive at the number of ships which were engaged in the channel trade. lithe Secretary of the Board of Trede was Correct, the number of vessels which were engaged in the trade with Canada was 1,200, anti the number of men ;employed 15,000. The most of these ships made two trips in the season, and when he commanded one of her Majesty's ships-of-war off that station, he had no difficulty in procuring a supply of from 200 to 300 men. This proved the great advantage of keeping up the shipping trade between the two countries. It had been stated that no petitions had been presented from the colonies with regard to the present question. Now, he had to state in reference to that, that they had no time to present a petition on the subject. On the last occasion when the re duction took place on these duties, five petitions were presented aginst the reduction from the Governor-General of Canada, and twelve from New Brunswick. He would not detain the House longer, but, believing that the measure would be ruin ous to the mercantile interest, he would give it his most decided opposition. MrePALMER said that that was amongst the fiche interests which were attacked by the mischievous measures of the Go vernment. They would be pernicious to every interest, but more especially to the shipping interest. So far from the reduction which had taken place being productive of benefit, he considered the effect was quite the reverse. The Right Hon. Gentleman had taken all the respon sibility of these measures from first to last, and he had evinced a determination to carry them into effect notwithstanding every opposition. He could only say with regard to this measure that some time since he recollected, when an Hon. Member, now no more, had made a reference to it, and to the im portance which this country had attained under the naviga tion late, as a reason why any interference with this question should be well consdered, the answer was, that the changes then conternp'ated would not be injurious. He did net believe that the Right lion. Baronet wished to bring mischief upon the interests of the country, but his measures would certainly have that effect. Whence, he would ask, was all this universal phi lanthropy, that they should be called upon to cast away the bread of their children? Was the time now come when the lion should lie down with the lamb ? lie was very much afraid that the Noble Lord (Russell) had only opened the door to let in the fox.—( Laughter.) The Hon. Gentleman, after alluding to the evil consequences which would result from the reduction of the silk duties, proceeded to say that in consequence of the change in the navigation laws he was obliged to sell ships at 5,000/., which cost him 20,000/. He hoped he would not be considered as speaking personally offensive to the Right Hon. Gentleman, when he stated his belief that he was not acting in an ingenuous manner with either that House or the country, with reference to his recent mea sures. The statement which the Right Hon. Baronet made the other night was more like that of an advocate or a special pleader, than of a great statesman. In 1820 the number of vessels employed were 29,969 ; in 1840, 29,183 ; so that there was an increase merely of 6 per cent. He admitted there had been a large increase in the tonnage, which probably might be owing in some measure to the constructing of the vessels ; but how ships could only increase at the rate of 6 per cent. and tonnage at the rate of 20 per cent., lie could not tell. British tonnage between this country and Norway, Sweden, Denmark, and Russia, in 1806, amounted to 107,118 tons, and in 1844 to 130,100 tone, which showed an increase of 20 per cent., not withstanding the increase in the price of timber. The ton nage of the Foreign trade in 1826, was 65,564 tons, while in 1844 it amounted to 528,722 tons, showing an increase of 850 per cent. During the last two or three years the British ship ping to the Baltic amounted to 109,000 tons, and in 1844 to 130,000 tons. Foreign ships during the same periods respect ively amounted to 341,553 and 528,722 tons. The amount of the timber which, during last year, went into the pocket cf the foreigner, was 1,533,00 N That was the account he literally received ; while the Canadians received Is. 6d. a load less than they did before. The present measure would still fur ther affect the British shipping. The freight to Canada was 31s. a load, while that to the Baltic was only 14s. It was now 215., but the usual rate was 145., so that they could not take the difference between Baltic and Canadian freightage at less than 14s. per load, It might be said that the Baltic timber was preferable to the Canadian (Hear, hear) — but he considered that that advantage even if it were admitted, would not counterbalance the evils which would re sult if the reduction of the present protection were carried into effect. He admitted, however, that better seamen would be made by a trip to the Baltic, exposed to the vicissitudes of the North Sea, than by a voyage across the Atlantic. It had been said that different petitions were presented from shipowners in this country in favour of the present reduction. He did not know who all the parties were, but he knew some of them. He knew three names which were attached to the petition pre sented from London, and he could undertake to say that they, at least, were not engaged in general shipping. One of them was connected with the West India trade, another was en gaged in the colonial trade, and they were all strong partisans. Their testimony, therefore, in favour of the pre sent measure, could not be considered uninterested. There was no doubt the Right Hon. Baronet was perfectly satisfied that a hat he proposed was for the good of the country; so far he had perfect confidence in him, but lie, nctwithstand ing, could not help stating his belief that the Right lion. Gen tleman was in error. He was at a loss to know what benefit this country would derive from such a measure. He could only find it likely to benefit foreigners. It was a measure embrac ing the grand principle of free trade as proposed by her Ma jestey's 111is,isters—it was a measure which called upon that House to withdraw all protection from the trade of this country —to withdraw as it were the protection of the parent from the child. He could understand the principle of free trade in this country, so far as it allowed a reciprocity of trade amongst themselves, but he could not agree to a sy stem which gave all the benefit to foreigners at the expense of the people of Eng land. He could not agree to a principle which gave to Prus sia a right to trade to all our ports, when Prussia herself was so jealous cf her own interests as to refuse anything like a reciprocity of the benefits conferred upon her. Mr. WARBURTON said it was well known that he was not then engaged in the shipping trade, although he at one time had been interested in it. Between 1841 and 1842, the shipping trade of this country was greatly interested in the tim ber-trade, and at that period they were not contented with having a differental duty of 455., they contrived to have the duties so altered as to give the advantage to the European trade. At that time the seven-inch deal was charged at as high a duty as timber of considerably larger climernions. In 1842, however, the duty was reduced, and taking the averages of the timber imported since that year, it was found that the colonial timbers had not been reduced in value, notwithstanding that the duty on foreign importation was reduced from 455. to 25c. He feared thatethe importation of colonial timbers had increased to the amount of 30, while the foreign had increased 20 per cent ; and in the year 1845 the colonial timbers had increased 17 per cent. over that of foreign timber. But this increase did not apply to one sort of timber alone—it would be found to be highly favourable to all qualities. Was it then to be said that while so many improvements were going on in this country, so many railwas and other constructions as were taking place, the Government were to allow them to stand still, and so much timber abroad, which was required for the benefit of this country ?—(flear, hear.) Were they to allow the colonial timber to be raised to an exorbitant price by the continuance of high duties?—( ieeer, hear.) The Go vernment had done their duty in proposing an alteration of this system, and he would say that the Legislature would be highly wrong if they were to oppose the present measure. The rise of the trade in American timber must be dated from its Iwo expedition? to Copenhagen. Before then there was not a Norwegian naval captain who did not wear on his breast the medals received for their services to this country. Hear, hear.) Since then, however, the interests of the Norwe gians were mixed up with the trade of foreign countries, and more especially with France, a country so great in her naval armaments. With the finest ports in the world on the Norwegian coasts, and so close to the Baltic, it behoved them to consider before they would place a bann upon their trade—it behoved them to confider whether it was a wise policy to allow rho Norwegians to become so closely connected with France. Should a war take piece between this country and France—not that he apprehended any such calamity—but still such was not unlikely, in all human probability. Was it, he would say, a wise policy, that a country with so great a nary, and a country which was continually increasing her naval powers, should allow her to have all the timber trade of the Baltic to herself. If this system was to be continued, they could not reckon upon the support of the Norwegian seamen at a time of war, for their sympathies would b 3 with another power. He again begged to be understood that he did not think that they would have re course to war, but that, if they did, the result would he what he had stated, namely, the loss of the services of some of the most experienced seamen which this country could wish for at a time of need. lie was very glad -to find that they were going to restore the trade of Norway by the measures proposed by her Majesty's Government. There were other reasons why the Government of this country should encourage the trade of Norway. It might be that Nor waysaythereforesee; but, politicalor allthe would, at one t i me or o th er , b e engage d i n a war agai n st Russia, o r ot h er c i rcumstances m i ght arise w hi c h i t wou ld b e impossible mercantile h e would restoring the navy of Norway to the cl . io • in con n it was be fore the war of 1793. He highly approved of the Government measure, and would give it his cordial support. Mr. P. BORTHWICK said he concurred with the Hon. Meinber opposite that there were political as reasons for this country keeping up its connexion with Norway; but he would contend for it that there were reasons equally Ireland. - - Sir ROBERT PEEL—I can assure the Noble Lord that I never felt greater anxiety in my life with regard to any mea sure than Ido with respect to the corn-law. I have received communications from different parts of the country, and from parties adverse to the measure, praying that some decision should be come to forthwith on the question of the corn-laws. In the first place, it was to be desired on account of the state of the crops in this country, that there should be free access to the corn in bond, that it might be mixed with the corn in this country fer seed:; and on that account, as well as on account of the inconvenience in other respects which would result from the delay, it would be desirable that this decision should be come to as soon as possible. In the event of this Bill becoming law, foreign corn would be admitted at a duty of 4s. per quarter, instead of 18s., as at present, and under these circum stances of course no corn would be taken out of bond till it was definitely known what course world be pursued with respect to the measure. In point of fact less corn had been sold in those towns, the averages from which determine the price of corn, than had been sold for some time previouo Besides, he had to observe, that the greatest inconvenience was likely to arise to separate very important interests. As fur instance, with respect to tic Custom Duties Bill, the Treasury, in accordance with the established usage, had directed the custom-house authorities to admit all articles in cluded in the tariff now before the House, at the reduced rates of duty; a bond being taken from the importers to secure the payment of the higher rate of duty in the event of the Bill not passing the House. Under this reguia'ion, all the linen, woollen, and cotton fabrics, had been admitted, and all manu factures of that class were admitted at the present moment, and he proposed to receive all other manufactures at the reduced rate of 10h per cent. Now, he was anxious to bring this debate to as early a conclusion as possible, because the bonds taken from the several parties at the reduced rate would be much more likely of redemption ; and, possibly, great in convenience might be prevented, not only to the Government but to the public at large. Under these circumstances he was very anxious for the settlement of the reduction which the Government had proposed on the iinportatien of articles of foreign produce. That was the first ground of his anxiety for the conclusion of the discussion on the Corn Pill. Yet he was bound to express the opinion of the Government upon the great importance of the Bill sent down from the House of Lords for the prevention of crime in Ireland, and which now stood on the notice-book for a first reading. The course, then, which he proposed to pursue was, to fix the second reading of the Corn Bill fur Monday next. The debate on that Bill might very possibly terminate on Thursday, and in that case he would fix the first reading of the Bill for the prevention of assassination in Ireland for the Monday following. But as it might possibly happen that the discussion on the Corn Bill, as anticipated by his friend to the right, might possibly terminate before the Thursday, he would, in that case, fix the first read ing of the Irish Bill for Thursday. The only dirmulty he ex perienced on that point was, that he should not then be en abled to give the usual notice on the books. But of this the Noble Lord might be assured, that on a matter of so much im portance he would give all the notice which the circumstances would allow, bosh to the House and to the country, of his in tention to proceed with the Bill. He found that the debate on the subject of railway termini in the metropolis had been ad journed, but on its resumption on Moodie , he would be pre pared to give the assent of her Majesty's Government to the recommendation of the Commi' tee.—( Flier.) THE ADJOURNED DEBATE. On the order' of the day for going Into Committee on the Customs Bill being read, The Marquis of ORCESTER said he would not occupy the time of the Home at any length by the observations be should make in prefacing a resolution Which he had to move. Government was now going to place Baltic timber nearly an the same footing as Canada, and what did the House think would be the effect of such a step? Why, the Canadian trade in timber was almost all in the hands of British mer chants, while the Baltic trade was carried on by Dant Swedes, and Prussians. Now, were they to legislate for the foreigner in preference to the English? If they were, he would ask how was the British shipowner, without protection, to contend against such odds as these? The Hon. Gentleman the Member fur Wolverhampton had said that a foreigner would be surprised to see the course pursued by Hon. Members on the Ministerial side of the House, but he (the Marquis of Worcester) rather thought the foreigner would be more sur prised to see the course pursued by the Government, who were removing the taxes on foreigners, and placing them on English men.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. H. HINDE (who rose amidst loud cries of " Divide" from the Opposition) said that he did expect that after the Noble Lord had stated his objection to the proposition of her Majesty's Government some Member sitting on the Treasury benches would have arisen to offer some explanation of the reasons which induced the Government to postpone this great and startling alteration in the duties on timber. It could hardly be that her .Majesty's Government, in the great altera tions they were making, considered, that having established the general principle of the reduction of duties, that timber, as a matter of course, should be included in that reduction. He would rather have deferred his remarks on this debits until some explanation had been given by her Majesty's Government, but he was unwilling to go to a division on this great question without stating his own views upon it. He had the misfortune to defer from her Majesty's Government on almost every reduction of duty on the articles mentioned in the tariff. He confessed that he viewed the scheme of her Majesty's Government, formed, no doubt, with a good inten tion, with apprehension, for he was sure that it would be a futile attempt to promote the general prosperity of this country by inflicting injuries on individual interests.—(Hear, hear. ) He was aware that her Majesty's Government were proud that on this occasion they were supported by certain ship owners in this kingdom. He did not know what importance to attach to the opinion& expressed by these shipowners, when the same parties had on a former occasion petitioned against the carrying of any such measure as the pre sent into effect. He knew that it might be that charge of opinion and change of parties, without any cause assigned, found favour in the eyes of her Majesty's Ministers, for " fel low feeling makes us wondrous kind." When he knew the great importance attached to these petitions, he could not help supposing that some sympathy of that kind existed between her Majesty's Government and the petitioners. He was not disposed to dispute the respect due to this kind of petition, but the House would be under a most erroneous impression if they imagined that these gentlemen represented a large portion of the ship-owners' interest. He would not venture to say what was the general feeling of the shipping interest, as he would say that the gentlemen petitioning the House in favour of the alteration of duty formed far the smaller portion of the shipping interest. This House and her Majesty's Government would be led into a great error if they supposed that the ship-owners, proposing an alteration of duty, had become disciples of free trade. They considered that they had been the first victims of free trade in earlier years, and they now indulged in the feeling, the not unnatural feeling, of thinking that the protection which was denied to themselves should be withheld from their fellow-subjects. He would now read two passages from the petitions which were presented by the Right Honourable Gentleman from the shipowners of Sunderland, and he did consider that the Right Honourable Baronet would have acted much more wisely if he had contented himself with simply moving their reception, without having them printed, because the reasoning of the petitioners was very much at variance with the prayer of the petitions. They state that they have been for many years unprotected in their intercourse with other nations; they did not consider that it was just to call on them to pay for the protection of others. He would not justify this feeling, but it was very na tural. However, the shipowners were much deceived if they considered that the landed interest maintained a protec tive duty on timber to serve their own interests. They sought protection for the benefit of the shipowners themselves—and he would state that he believed the shipowners had very recently changed their opinions with tepee' to protection, and that the change which had come over them was more recent than that of her Majesty's Government. In 1832 the vessels en tered inwards were—British, 1,930,846 tons; and foreign, 561,047 tons. In 1845, British vessels were 3,669,853 tons ; and foreign vessels, 1,3t3,735 tons. It was perfectly true that there was a large increase in British tonnage, but it was not so large as the increase on the foreign tonnage. The increase in British ships was under 90 per cent., and the increase in foreign ships was 140 per cent.—( Cheers. ) The tonnage cleared outwards was—in 1832, 1,637,C;93 ; and the foreign, 466,333. In 1815, British tonnage was 2,947,000; and foreign, 1,361,910. The increase in British wee 1,310,0L0, and in foreign tonnage 95,000. lir British it was 80 per cent., but in foreign 190 per cent.—(Cheers.) In the number of vessels carrying tonnage both inwards and outwards were included a very large amount of steam-vessels— ' vessels which bore very little, if any, cargo at all ; and the con sequence was, that a very undue proportion in the whole was given to the number of vessels carrying cargo. He would show by a number of figures the number of steam-vessels which were included in the Government returns. In 1841, the whole number of steam-vessels belonging to the United King dom in the Channel Isles was 791, the tonnage of which was 95,793, and in the same year there were entered inwards 17,318 vessels, whose tonnage was 3,234,E00.—(Hear, hear.) Now, he had adduced those few facts to prove this—that it was not because the shipowners had flourished in consequence of the free-trade measures of the Government, that they had petitioned the House to repeal the duties upon timber. Their reason was, because they believed that the free-trade system had already done its worst—(Protectionist cheers)—and that by its more general application to every other class the injuries which had been inflicted on themselves might be extended to others. It was perfectly true that timber had cheapened by the measures of her Majesty's Government. It had been shown in a petition which he had the honour of presenting to that House from the Shipowners' Society of London, that the amount of duty paid on timber which had been used in ship building formed nearly five per cent. of the entire amount used in this country. He was aware that when he presented that petition that it was met by a cheer. The meaning of that cheer he perfectly understood to have been this, that the shipowners were not benefited by having the duties on colonial timber reduced. But he would say that it was a very serious consideration to the people of this country whether they were to do injury to persons holding large tracts of land in England, and whether this country was to view with indignation the prospect of another war, brought about by the conduct of thu present Government, and which would, of course, deprive them of a sufficient supply of timber exhich was so vital an element in the commerce of this country. He did not hesitate to sar, that if her Majesty's Government reduced the discriminating duties between British and colonial timber, they would entail an incalculable injury upon this country. He (the Hon. Member) had heard, with much pleasure, the sentiments of her Majesty's Government, with regard to their determination to maintain a firm position with respect to the Oregon territory; but at the same time he believed, that if the measure then before the House were carried into law, they might not alone get rid of the Oregon territory, but also make a present of the Canadas.—(fleer, hear.) One would sup pose that the members of her Majesty's Government were di rected by a hostile feeling towards the colonies, and particu larly to the valuable colony of Canada.—( Hear, hear.) He regretted that anti-colonial policy should be pursued by the Government ; but on that subject he would not further in trude the ti n,dron o t u h . e , :louse. However, he could not sit down without Petting a question to Hon. Members on the Ministerial side 7atihopedieeat.rhtt extent, n— r t e . c i of sw e free r. trade o questionu a t n L i s what trcarriedandcandidit advantage te principlewo u l d t n ie r advantage — at all and on that ground he He was of opinion that woall give , his cordial set Tort to the minion of the Noble ?YELL said that his lion. Friend who had Lord.-121-Areßairi just sat down commenced his observations by recommending to the Government a course which he thought was muc h httter than that they wereadopting,—(Hear.) 'Mill regard to the present measure now before Parliament, and to the opinion which had been expressei in the petition to which the lion. Gentleman referred, there was a singular con fliction of opinions. His lion. Friend had referred to a peti tion presented to that House some years ago, in which it h a d been stated that their interes ts would be ruined by the reduction of the duties under 30/. per cent. Now, in the comparison which had been instituted in the measure proposed by his Hon. Friend opposite, and that propose d by the Ministers, he had only to refer to the difference of popularity between the two measures—(Cheers)—and to show the respect which was en tertained for the measures proposed by her Majesty's Ministers, and to those proposed by the party with which his Hon. Friend generally acted. In the petition which had been presented by the shipowners in 1842, it had been asserted that in the event of the reduction of the duties under 251. per cent. that the whole of the timber trade would be transferred from the ' E SUN, LONDON,SATURDAY EVENING, MA: n strong, exon a s n tr a o d n a ge r for ed i t d h this n a t e u thinkn te y keeping that th regarded merely as a shipping emestion, or as a class question bue as an imperial questier nfeto h' would ell 'h., trenteen wifithnoCtpo,lintualcdobn; of the House to the prices of timber in this year and in 1841. In 1841 the priceof Canadian timber was 41. 10s., and in 1846 it was the same. The price of European timber in 1641 was 51., and in 1816 it was the same ; therefore, who gained by the tariff of 1842? It certainly was not the British con sumer. On the whole, he felt that he should vote in favour of the amendment of the Noble Lord, the Member for Gloucester. But lest it might be said that he was actuated by patty motives in the vote he should give upon this question, he thought it right to offer those few observations in explanation of his reasons for the vote he intended to give. Mr. HENLEY said he did not think that sufficient reason had been given to the House by the Government for the pro posed change. He could not agree with the Hon. Member for Kendall, that the loss of revenue by the reduction on timber last year had been what he had stated. The very extraordinary demand that had taken place in the raiiaey world, had, no doubt, increased the dernarin fee thetber in a great degree ; and in a question of the present 'lintel, he would be disposed to irnsider that as very material, lie should say that some of the eirgoo,eente used by the night Hen. Secretary of the Tieasury required soneehieie offi cial assurance he bring them forward ; but he forget to frit the House one thing, neniely i that the navy estimates were at present between six and seven mit - omo Every ,encn knew that the timber repired for naval building rather seneee. The shipowners of the 6944 try were a highly'-protected body, which should not be loot sight of, The ftlizht fiats. Baronet, at the head of the Ministry had told the lteale end thp ?gentry that he for one could no longer maintain the principle of proteneeiooi that statement he made broadly and eleerly at the commencement or ehn oreaent session ; but it did not un frequently happen that persona, in epatereg tiieeeal atee.eteents, 4ftch otershot the mark; and he (thels;ernber) . then challenged tim Wright Icon. Gentleman to prove that he believed in the sincerity of his qwr; iteterpeote.-( Heah, hear.) • If he did believe thee releehlten pi a ,tact' op duty benefited the community generally why not allow the Swedes or Norwegians to convey sugar into this country from elm West Jndies? -( Hear, hear.) He felt warmly on the subject foe reaeolis perk' pal. tp, himself Poll he should sly that as certain as effect followLl caV - e so ineoin toe emensrg, by adopting those measures, instead of gaining, be exposed to greater competition -( Hear, hear. ) meelhe chpold agree in a great measure with the Hon. Gentleman whoakrecedeo hush, but be §imold aleo complain of the citipst!on• a sl og.d eotnplain that th§ duty heel trot beep entirely taken off, ea ha knew pp aetiole, after pronisioes, of more importance to the general community than that af irebee, -( Hear, hear.) What were the cireurostences of the ship owners? They complained that the materials with which they built their ships were higher than the materials in foreign markets. lly the paper willch he held in his hand he per ceived thett the hull of a British ship coet front 4/. t o s } . pee top more than that of the foreign built ship ; in feet, the fereigper could build three ships fee g. eupi of meney that wool(' only build two in England. That was an iliconventence df wh ch shipowners complained. In 1815, in the Court of Pro prietors in the East India House, he declared that he wished to 'see the Ermlieh ,:hipping then at the price of 50/. per ton, reduced to 101. 10E. per top. Ile was then regertipd as a visionary. lie would state a very traportaen, feet, woh re ference to the duties on timber. In the north of Scotland, and the coast of Ire' pd, the timber for Imata was '4ooi. per cent. dearer than on the continent, and therefore tear boats went to sea iu a condition thee no foreign boat would venture out in. The consequence was that many naluable seamen t al well as the fishermen, were drowned. It was lamentable to End that a large quantify of the capital of our shipowners wee vested itl Norwegian and Danish ships. He had heard from one shipewner resid ing in Lincolnshire, that he was very anxious to build 'hips in England, but the price was too great for him, and he was ne cessarily compelled to go to the country where ships were cheapest. Was this to continue ? The system carried out by the Right lion. Baronet said plainly that tae wotjld no , longer base our capital employed in foreign ships, but in ships of our own building. No country possessed steel' advantages as England, and no country availed iteelf of it so little. Anil what is the result? We heard in every storm, at least every now and then, of our Cshing-boats going out to the number of fifty and sixty, and out of that number ten or twelve were swamped before they could reach a place of safety. He be lieved, if the duty were taken off, we could build our ships on the same footing as the Danes. We had had many proofs of that effect, He believed that there had been laid on the table of the House some documents proving the misery of many of the artisans of this country, and to when was that owing - hut to the high price of timber. Those documents proved that many of them, working for twelve hours a day, instead of going to a cellar and sleeping in contaminated air, ought to go, in order to enable them to continue the work the next day, to a place where they could breathe the pure atmosphere. It was by the legislation of this House that there unfortunate min were kept in the state they were. At an age when they ought to be enabled to cam y out their experience, they were more fit for the workhouse, or premature death. He (Mr. Hume) said that every Honourable Member opposing the reduction of the timber duties was dooming hundreds of his fellow beings to occupy the miserable cellars he had spoken of. He would now turn to another point, and look to the effect on the farmer. Every one who knew the expense attendant on farming would know that it was preferable to use the home timber instead of the American. But the farmers had b, en obliged to have recourse to the Baltic end American timber to enable them to make their buildings with some degree of stability. If that House would repeal "' the duties on timber, they would enable the farmer to carry out his eceupation at less expense and with more benefit to himself and the country. With regard to the manufacturing interest, if they removed the duty from timber entirely, they would place our manufac ture on a footing with the whole world. There was no article, next to provision, which he thought would be so beneficial as timber if the price were reduced. He was, therefore, willing to vote for the entire repeal of the duty. Lord a. BENTINCK said that, in rising to approve of the amendment which was brought forward with so much modesty - s o much ability and per=petuity-by his Hon. Friend the Member for East Gloucestershire, he assured the house that in the speech with which he commenced the debate he gave promise of great future ability. lie (Lord G. Bentinek) would not on Friday last have asked the House to adjeuened the dm. bate if he had not thought that the timber dune:, mixed as they were with the condition of our colcnies, were most impor tant. The question with regard to them resolved itself into three different points; first, a condition of the revenue, and the ' relieve that a relaxation of the duty would afford to people of this country. Secondly, it resolved itself into the question as to how far we should continue to maintain protection in our colonies ; and, thirdly, into the consideration whether or not they should continue to maintain their maritime importance (Heir, hear, and loud cheers)-by injuring that portion of trade which gave the widest and greatest employment to British seamen. Many returns, and many statements of figures, had been laid before that House by her Majesty's Ministers at different times; and at other times those statements emanated from the Board of Trade. He would commence by showing how little dependence was to be placed on a super ficial observation of the figures returned by the Board of Trade. A lamented relative of his once said that the last thing to which he paid any attention, and on which he pieced any reliance, was a statement of figures and facts that were made in that House, and that was more especially observable in the returns of shipping when made by the Board of Trade. To show how difficult it was to rely on any superficial observe- Hon of the returns of the Board of Trade, it was only neces sary to refer to the statement made by Mr. Porter in his work, with reference to the trade in 1841. In one page of that voluminous document, the return given is that the total mars time force of steam-vessels amounted to 1,700 ships, with a tune nage of 3,300,00 0 tons. The number of stearn.vessels we possess, instead,pf being 1,700, was upwards of 791, and the average of their tonnage was only 95."307, though it had been swelled to the enormous amount stated. The result of such a return as this would be, that if a sloop measured only fifty tone, and manned by only two men and a boy, were to make two trips in a month to Ostend, making in the whole year twenty-four trips, that sloop, of which the wages would be about 741. per annum, would be placed on a par with a British Indianian of 709 toss. A re turn was placed on the table of the 11.orse that morning, showing the number of ships engaged in the trade of this country. From this it appeared, that the number of ships employed in the piano trade was 656, which brought into the country cargoes annually to the amount of 1,000,000 tons. In this trade alone there were employed 11,500 seamen, receiv ing iu wages 200,0001. Now let them compare this trade with the steam ships of the country, which had been referred to. The latter were in number but 791, with a tonnage of 93,736. There was, therefore, no comparison between a trade which employed b u t 5,000 or 6,000 seamen, like the steam-trade, with a trade like the guano, that employed 11,50(1. Such was the value of the guano- trade in comparison with this other most important branch of their maritime navy. He would now proceed to the subject of price. A great deal had been said on the benefit to the consumer that would arise from the reduction of the duty on timber, and how their American colonies would be benefited by the alteration in the differential duties. A great deal had been said about the benefits of the alteration in 1812. Ile had examined into the question, and would submit his results to the House. His authority on the Banic timber was the house of Messrs. Radcliffe and Co., of Liverpool, and the figures were derived from a branch of that House in Elsinore. It was stated that the price of yellow pine in 1839, was 9d. a foot. In 1840 it was being an average on the two years of 94d, per foot. Taking 1i42, the year of which they heard so much from her Majesty's Government, what was the result ? Why, that which in 1839 and 1840 cost on an average 9d. a foot was reduced to 74(1.---( Hear, hear.) That was the whsle extent of the reduction. The price of yellow pine in the same year, 1842, was 44d., while the previous year it was 4nd., showing that the reduction had been i r d.-( Hear, hear.) That was the only difference in the two periods. The re duction had been from 13 per cent. on the one and ten per cent. on the other.-( Hear.) With regard-to Baltic timber, he could refer to a pamphlet published by an eminent Member formerly a Member of the Cabinet, written to show the bene fits that were likely to flow from the alteration in the differen ti l duties. The writer said, at the time he wrote, that the change had not been long enough in operation to show the benefits, but that they would be shown in abeut a twelvemonth afterwards. He stated that Dantzic and illemel timber in January, 1812, was 5/. 12s. 6d. In January, 1845, the duty had been reduced 30s. per load. Now what Wes the price in the latter year? It averaged from 4'. 17s. to. 41. 100, and it was reduced at the lowest to 4/. Bs. 92., so that, comparing the price of 1845 with that of 1842, the reduction was 11. 3s. ad.- (Hear, hear.) Now he (Lord G. Bentinek) would supply the price of 1846. According to Prince's Price Curren', from which he quoted, the price in January, 1846, of timber for Dantzie. and Memel in the port of London, varied from 4/ 10s. to 5/.-( Hear, hear.) Showing that though the duty had been reduced 30s. per load, the price to the consumer was reduced but 10s, 6.1. ; the rest of the went iato the pocket of the foreign grower.-(Cheers from the protection benches. ) Mr. Glatisnne, not content whit this, goes to Liverpool to make out his ease. In 1841, he eays, that the prices of Darizie and Memel timber wns from netld. to 27e. per foot. In 1842 it was 25d., while in 1845 it n as 204(1. ; showing that the redaction of 1845, as compared with !8 :6, was 6ift. per foot, which was egnal to 275. Id. per load. 1842, as compared with 1845, s} owed a redaction of 3nol. per fait, er 190 10d. per lila I. In 1541, the fereign p oducer put 2s. I Id. in his pocket.-( Hear, hear. ) In Liverpool, dung the be ginning, of the present year, the average price was 231. to 2.14. d li u s t g ie i s vi c n a g m n e l i r s . t, ( , .l , l ) a ; : , ie r t a o t e i .e m, e.he benefit of his year after the new and comparing Ite46 with 18-11, the reduction in price had only been 13s. 6d. per lead, or 34d. per foot ; and cernpared with 1842, the reductionhad been but 53. nit per load. This showed that out of the 30s. reduction in duty the foreign producer had pocketed 245. 9i 1.-(Lood cheers from the Con servative benches.) The trade with Canada had increased, not because the du'y had been reduced, but on account. of the great extension of the railway system. The continuation of railways had led to a great demand for timber, and Rile had given an immense impetus to this department of foreign trade. Such was set forth in the printed circular, printed in Liver pool, on this subect.-(llear, hear.) The great demand for timber was there attrihuted to the great num ber of ralway Bills that had passed the Legislature. He did not see the Hon. Member for Sunderland in his place, or ha would have appealed to him with confidence whether a foot the less would be purchased for railway purposes if the duty had remained the same? He knew well what his answer would have been. He would have declared to the Horse that, as far as the increased consumption of timber went, that in crease arose from railway speculation alone, and not from the I reduction of duty. That reduction of duty necessarily inferred a considerable loss to the revenue. Another thing appeared, that tint for this reduction — the inc reased railway spccul at tons leading to inbrkshth consumption—hut forthissre,druc(itioinn hJ sahl the Catiedliti i3Olonirs would ne ither have s uffered price of timber, nor in the amount of exportation. His Rig Hon. Friend the first Minister of the Crown appealed to the 7 8 % 5 ; of Liverpool, and drew a compa rison of the tonnage el as compared with his favouri te y ear of 1842. He b . i l e B v 4 ed s , he said, that there were 222,000 tonseenatered inwsrds , and only 188,000 tons in 1842 ; and h pea justification le d duties.t o th x is n tg be (Lord of the alteration of the timbp er (Lord George Bentinck) would show the House how current his Right Hon. Friend' w as wh il e maingth eseemr pein itotetio e n nt s.li v e would read from the circular publis hed b y . ~ showing what had been the trade sinc e e a t the hsrea !'lures glutt; opus His Right Hon. Friend had the thiv?rtta _ e a be e ihe +eel side, for they had not yet been laid on tree h. 1 and here he tleoaglit the Hahne., and tkhhe War 4feThql 1 who sat around him, lead good teason to eomplain thht ittrrna: tion had been kept beck from them. It was nti•! !!:,waa not sere that it was not seveh,. weeks since he had moved ' f the number pewee entered inwerd for the last norm That return had not yet been laid before them, and it was crily that morning that they had got a return moved far on the 28th of January. It was sent from the Customs on the 14th of March, and .hey only got it that morning. It epetaiped Ore, ere sea, or seven pages full of figures, and yet it had been printed on the succeeding morning, but the House had not been put in possession of it. From it the Right Hon. Daronet drew his comparison between the years 1842 and 1845, tine ehue4led et this epormehe *Tease in the trade now as compared with 1842. Why, his own measure, the first great repletion vehicle he had introduced in 1842, had thrown the whole state of trade into stagnation. In 1842 the ships ern pleyed in the British American trade were 165, and the ton. nage 91,179; but if they looked to the year before that, they gelid find that. instead of 165 ships, e ith a tonnage of 91, 17 p, tlicre ere 31qehips, with a tounake ) The Right Hon. 'llartirtel,lewevei, did not antideseend to notice a rigried when the Whig . s wets in office. Agaig, let them leek 1.4 a; fie ae - the Of 104; and they wealid find that there were only two ingle years that the tonnage was so low as the Right Hun. Baronet had described it ; but he would take—and he trusted the House and the country would think it fairer — he would talte the averages of the ;wile yi.44s Bloc's, the oi eutiii; anti compare the progress of the trade with any annual period before that time. He found that the average increase on the last period of three years, as compared with the previous three yeare of 18% we; :2fipgr Cent. op Ntifth tlaegican eiroher. Mit whop he cempered 'years 1830, 1840;' end I'B4l', with Vile yea;rs 1 n , 1832, aed 18 1 3, wide h were the first three years io which 'they lied ally regerd, he fetind thgt ter inerre4 in the three first years was 66 per cent. `So that it appeared that the Canadian trade was progressing before the alteration of the duty at a rate still faster than it had progressed since, notwithstanding all the ass eistenee it had derived from railway. speoulwtion.-4 At this rooment the Hop. Member far Sin:lol;6d entered the House ) He was glad to see hie Hop, Friend the Member fur SOnderlind in }tipp lace ! . ‘ i f he would bear him out that the average amount of timber required for railways was 5,000,000 cubic feet. Ile would now turn to the Baltic trade, and he found that the average importation from the Baltic in the years, 1831, 1432, end 1683 Tsai 21,1f14 ten while iwthe three years iromed4tely preceding the red4ctior; of the digerential untie', the average tonnage of ships laden wit fclaltic timber had fallen as low as 1404.2 tops. Baltic timber, therefore, had fallen as low as one-third as (tampered with Canadian timber, which had in creased to 66 per cent. But now, how had they fared since the reduetion of the ditty) The average of 14,442 terns had risen in 1845 to 33,792 tons. So that, while under the syetern of colonial protection they had fallen off, ender the ohenged duties they had inereavd veil nearly to treble their former amount. He thought then that he had shown good cause why the Canadian colonists had reason to be alarmed at the measures of the Government. He feared they were alarmed.—():Tear, hear.) ''hp Capadlan mail, eeceived two days ago, was filled with intelligence that in the Canadian calonies great diseethfaction prevailed, and that the colonists were al ready discuming whether it would not be bet ter for them to be annexed to the United States of America. The Hon. Member for Liskeard shook his head, but that was the information re ceived from Canada, They said that if this Government with drew its protection; if they who, only four years ago, offered them the boon of the Canadian Corn Bill, if they were now to deprive them of that, as they were depriving the farmers of their own country of protection—( Great cheering from the pto tectionists)—all the ties that connected them with England would be severed. His Hon. Friend doohted the statement he had ;pulp, bet let hire reed the leading article in the Mon treat Gazette of the ' 25.1i February last. The writer, referring to the measure brought in by the Noble Lord, the Member for London, fifteen years ago, far the abolition of the pocket boroughs, said that an Honourable Member in that House (and he (Lord G. Bentinck) remembered that that Ilember was old John Abel Smith), sgid that the temerity of the measure quite took his breath away. But that measure was far more rash than the ono introduced by the Noble Lord, and would take away the breath of the Canadians in a much greater degree. The writer went on to say, that the majority yet remained in breathless astonishment; amazement, consternation and alarm had seized them—not the less so that they were at a distance from the scene of action—and that in all probability the deed would be consummated before their remonstrances could be heard. Would the Hon. Members opposite, after this, taunt them withsinterposing unnecessary delay to the inning of this measure ? Should they not rather delay it further, until the remonstrances of their Canadian brethren could be heard, and for this purpose only was it that such a determined resistance had been offered by the patriotic band around him,—(Cheers, and " Oh, eh.") Knowing the feeling of the Colonists, he trusted the House weuld pause be fore hurrying on a measure which would create so much alarm in the hearts of their Canadian brethren.—( Cheers.) At a time when America was assuming a warlike aspect ; when Mr. Quisecey Adams, in language that he could only characterise as infamous and blasphemous, quoted the word of God, for lighting up the firebrand, and letting loose the dogs of war on Oregon, he did not think that the happiest moment for her Majesty's Government, by their fiscal changes, to alienate the affections and loyalty of her Majesty's Canadian subjects. He, for one, was as anxious as any one that peace should be maintained with honour. He thought this country could well afford to repose on her laurels, and need be in no haste to enter into war. But he must say that he would never consent to ob'ain peace by a dishonourable sacrifice either of our colonial or domestic industry. He was as willing as any one, if a doubt should arise about our rights, that the matter should be re ferred to any umpire, he cared not whom ; and rather than they should wrongfu lly take anything that did not of right be long to them, where a doubt existed, he would willingly con cede to the American States. But if all honourable, peaceful means should fail, they would humbly, but firmly, place their faith in the all-powerful God of Battles, and they would address the Americans, not in the language of Scrip ture, but in the language of British thunder, from the broamide of a line-of-battle ship.—( Cheers.) Firm in the justice of their cause, when 'the last resources of peace had failed, fearing no human enemies, they would send their British seamen to America, to speak in a language not to be misunderstood. His Noble Friend (the Member for (ilonces tershire) had correctly stated the number of British seamen employed in the Baltic trade. Out of 32,000 seamen em ployed, only 6,000 were British, and the remaining 26,000 were Prussian, Danish, Norwegian, and Rus ian. From the register of shipping, he found that in 1620 the British shipping amounted to 2,648,593 tons. In 1844 it had risen at war time to 3,637,231 tons, showing an increase of 988,636, or about Si per cent. But in the meantime the population had in, creased 39 per cent. He wanted, therefore, to know what cause there was for boasting of the prosperity of the shipping interest, when the shipping interest could not keep pace with the increase in the population. What had been the position of the foreign trade? In 1832 the foreign shipping was 561,047 tons inwards. In 1842 it had increased to 1,753,745 tons. From 1820 to 1844 the American shipping had increased from 1,280,062 to 2,280,095 tons. He found by returns that in the three years succeeding 1842, the foreign trade with this country had increased by 405,555 tons, while our own British trade had only increased 212,000, and where the number of foreign sailors engaged in the trade had increased 1,10.1 the number of British sailors had only increased 741. Going back to 1769, when the United States of America was a British colony, and its population numbered no more than 2,0:0,000. The num ber of ships engaged in that trade was 1,078, while the number of British ships was 28,900. At the present day, and after a lapse of 76 years, he found that the number of British seamen engaged in the trade did not exceed 25,000, while the popula tion of the States had increased from 2,000,000 to 22,000,000. He thought these facts were sufficiently conclusive to show that they ought not to legislate for a colony without giving that colony an opportunity for expressing an opinion on the matter—without waiting to hear what has the opinion of Canada. The Government were now forcing through a measure which the colonists themselves viewed with alarm and consternation, and which they thought, after the Canada Corn Bill was passed, a breach of faith on the part of this country.—( Hear, hear.) Now, the Hon. Gentleman the Member for Kendal, has stated as a fact what the Hon. Gen tleman must have meant for a poetical metaphor—namely, there was scarcely a Norwegian sailor who did not wear a medal recording the actions and victories in' which they had been engaged on behalf of the British nation. Now, that was the first time he had ever heard of sailors, who had been engaged in British naval contests, receiving medals to commemorate the victory over a foreign foe, and he thought he need not go out of the House to prove his assertion. His Right Hon. and Learned (and he might add Gallant) Friend the Attorney-General, he believed, assisted in accomplishing one of there glorious victories, but he (Lord G. Benlirick) had never seen any medal or mark of naval distinction on the part of his Learned Friend ; and he must say, if medals had been granted to the Norwegian sailors, his Honourable and Learned Friend had bee., greatly ill used bZ the Government.—(Hear, hear.) The R ght Honourable Baronet at the head of her Majesty's Government might treat the arguments of his (the Noble Lord's) party with contempt, and endeavour to cast ridicule upon those who hoisted the flag of protection, but he for one should never be ashamed to represent the shipowners of Englasid, nor should he ever be ashamed to fight under the flag of protection. Let the Bight Hon. Baronet get up and answer it, but he de fied the Right Hon Baronet to answer the figures which he had put the House in possesion of, therefore he said that they were not ashamed to fight under the flag of protection, and they called upon English gentlemen to remember that what occurred five-and-twenty years ago might again come to pme. Let them remember that during the thirty years' war, which Eerope and the world never saw equalled, and when Euroee was invaded by the soldiery of France—when the lands of the Nobles of Germany and Russia were laid waste, and when the inhabitants of Russia preferred committing their capital of Moscoe to the flames rather than it should fall into the hands of the enemy—they, the gentlemen of England were enabled to send them succour and relief, and to defend their country at home, while their trade, their com merce, their industry was protected. Some Honourable Gentlemen, however, now ' , referred relying on the flags of Rue sia, the tri-colour of France, or the thirteer stars of America, but he and his Honourable Friends preferred standing by and fighting their bahles under the simple, the old, and the time worn I. Jack, and he called u son the House still to defend that weather-beaten flag, and support the amendment of his Noble Friend.—( Cheers. ) Se. G. CLERK said, that at the late hour of the night it was not his intention to trespes upon the attention of the House.— ( Hear, hear.) In the tew anervation which he deemed it his date to make, he should endeavour to confine himself strictly to the quretion before the House, which he believed was this —whether they were prepate d to redt cc the price of a raw material, which was eminently conducive to the comfort of every individual in this country, 35 per csnt. ? The Noble Lord who had just sat down, bad stated that he was opposed to the reduction of the present duties upon foreign timber en three grounds—one grounl was the revenue, the other the necessity of protection to the colonies, and the third the maintenance of the shipping interest. The N.,ble Lord had disputed the first ground with a very few remarks. The Honourable Member for Oxfordshire had objected, in reply to the arguments of his Right Hon. Friend the Chan cellor of the Exchequer, that it was necessary for the pro tection of the revenue that no such reduction as from 255. to 15s. per load should be sanctioned? Why, if those were the arguments of Hon. Members, what became of all the speeches that had been made with respect to the great injury which would be done to the Canadian trade, and that of this country, on the passing of the measures? He thought that they could not be alarmed, if that were so, at the immense quantity of tim ber which they said would destroy and annihila' e the whole of the shipping arid navigation interests of this country.—(Hear. hear.) Ile thought that the Canadian timber that would come into this country under the proposed measures would be considerably increased, because lie entirely agreed with what RA IL WA Y fell froth his Right 1-10 Peiend the First Secretary of the The shipowi rem week!, in consequence of the high rate of dirty, be compelled to tun The Canadian timber , •as it was e MANCHESTER MA '0 particularly applicable to et/tie-building'. It had bern • id ti er dis. — Clithe n r e o t e l° J'u sTOCR EXCHANGE. —The sales •'• • Nottinght Sri •RE MARKETS. York I: l x e t t e i n the use of the Baltic timber in them country would r ' the . 1417 S n i, •T ii nnt i tinn ' r a j c7:4 etw i o s r, r 11-16 ;cam sue Lincoln Extension 'and' Tort 1 dis.— Chester and Manchester Directs v , 2 , 18 *, Canadian timber trade. Now in art year 1841, when t u h l :p t Lin i c c oln "i Ju - Counties, 1 die. ter and Crewe, 2% 1 1 . — ;i 0 1 tective duty in favour of Canadian timber was not less than fibs., Halves, 814 p. and when it was reduced to 455. in the year 1842, therethe nawd" P.—Edinburgh and , although it was said that the reduction ippioge- Blios.—Graud Junction, p. c. resLo r n e . a ll West Rl:.:nag Sheffield L. SiiftWka and utter ruin of the ,(I) audcansj, try. Plew they Mere told th/tt in proposing the reduction they North Yorkshire, 't • l lt Junci s o t t e i, r 6)'‘' pay Tan calthir leats were goin g . beyond the hounds of prudence, and tha t an Thirsk, -.6.—Lancaster and presto", 94 1 1 . : - Ingi o' o,e Canadtalll ticAbOr tra•111 W 414111 be §TinillilatPda He find Trent '" ea. —Ditto, New, I ois.—Le —T.- icester, 111 %,,,1t would 'leg fR ettntiqp of the House . alley Junction, 225. dis.—Liverpool and Buil', v o ted 0 3 4 44 really been the effe'os of ft.-• ...orpool and Leeds Direct, 6s. die.—Liverpool, Ormt6" y qouthP° Preston, % p.—Liverpool, • Preston, Manchester, and • , ti9n Rf iear 14111 befeee se -et reduc- P.—Liverpool, IYarrington, Manchester, and Stockport, 444 = 4 naty 'Wing tea lOe ..e reduction of the London and Manchester (Rem.), 1% die.—Manchoster Le d.l , pfetitteed +A • . F er toad—the sum of 4 30,000!. Manchester fuu• bog ham, 76%—Manchester and Hyde, % p. c.— _ N ' o rt • • • - Extension, 2% p.-31anchester and Southampton, par revenue of this country. In the year 3 1'1" § berland and Lancashire, lei dis.—North StafTordshire , ._ ns io," I ft 43, after th: reduction, the amount received by - —Sheffield and Lincolnshire Junction, % p.—Ditto, rd nit Was 689,760/., instead of 430,(-00.. In the next year, dis. - Sheffield and Manchester, Quarters, No. 1, 5 1844, it was 71,069/., and in the last year it was 94,8621. 3, 2 p.—Shropshire Union Railway and Canal, 125. 6d. ei " I( Hear, hear)--and the amount of timber that was now intro- Riding Union, 2% p. duced into this country from Canada had increased 120/. ler cent. And what hail become of the Baltic and foreign timber when the duty was redu,'ed from 555. to 25e, being 5-liths. ? The duty received in 1841 upon Baltic timber was a little above 1,000,0001. In the year 1843 the amount received was exactly in proportion to the reduction of the duty-eenamely, 575,000/. ; but in the two subsequent yeare—in 1844 and 1845—it was 820,0001. ; and in the last year it was 47,0001. Under those circumstances he would say that, looking at the experience of the last three years, the Hoarse need have n fear of the fulfilment of the woful predictions of the Noble Lard. And what did the House of Lords say in 1820? He believed he might say that that House was mast anxious to aroteet. ;01 aorta of native, or domestic, or c o l on i a l i n t eres t s , nd yet they stated that the consequence of a reduction in the duties of the timber would be of advantage to the people of Canada and of this country. At the present moment, the re turns which were upon the table of the House showed that the Canadian and Baltic timber trade had flourished and increased sheet the reduction of the duty. But Cite Noble Lord had also said that he objected to the present policy of the Government, because the consumer would reap no benefit. And yet he ( et' , Q. Clerk) had shown that since the reduction of than duties the quatitity of timber that had Leon impoeted into this country from Canada and Dollop bad vastly increased—in fact, that it had doubled.— (Hear, hear.) But notwithstanding that great increase in the Supplies, thy demand in this country for corn had become so great that it could be scarcely met.--( Hear, hear.) He would only ask, what would have been the effect, not only upon railway speculations, but all those pit-poses for which timber was applied, if the protective system had been'persisted in with regard to the impartation of foreign timber ? If they had kept pp the old system of protection, he was confident that those great railway schemes to which the present unusual prosperity Or this eountry was mainly to be attributed, would not have been commenced. The Hon. Merolscr for Sunderland ( Hudson) would be able to answer for that. It appeared that no less than 2, ,1(9,0(10/. worth of timber hal been expended it; r4 ilro 4 d 4 within the last few years. Then the Noble Lord had said that the effect of the present measures would be the lowering of the price of timber in Canada. But the fact would be the reverse in consequence of the enormous and increased demand in this country.—(Hear, hear.) Within the last three years, in consequClac! of the increased demand, the price had at past doubled. Ha would then ask whether the Hoot need entertain the slightest apprehension as to the ruin of the Canadian trade in oormequence of the present Government measures?—(Elear, hear.) The Noble Lord had aiol stated, that if these measures were passed, it weeld by impossible, for the shipping interests of this country to be able to compete with that of Nor way, Penmark, or the other countries where the shipping in. terest formed a principal feature in their commerce. But . was perfectly clear, from the evidence of the most eminent shipowners of this country, that in consequence of the reduction in the duties on the timber, the shipowners: of this country would be at le to compete ea ith the shipowners of any other country. It had also been stated by the Ncble Lord, that the number of ships had not increased, as might have been anticipated, in consequence of the increase in population, but the total cumber, at the present moment, engaged in English .commerce was upwards of 31,000; and it must also be borne in mind, that the present ships were much more expeditioult and capacious than those of former years.. The Aight Hon. Gentleman then proceeded, amidst loud cries of " Divide, divide," to state that, since the passing of the last tariff, ships could be built (on the evidence of the principal shipbuilders of Liverpeol, &c. ) at least 30 per cent. cheaper than they could previously.—( Hear.) But notwithstanding these fiets, the tonnage of the country increased to a far greater degree "hen any other country ; and it was, therefore, clear that the mercantile marine had not been injured by the policy of the Government in reducing the duties on timber, but hail been greatly increased. . Let them look to the port of London, as being one of the largest ports, and they would find that in 1841 the home tonnage was 722,000, and the foreign was 255,000, being in the proportion of one-third to the home; in 1844 the home tonnage was 1,800,000, whits the foreign tannage amounted to only 383,000. He thought, therefore, that no injury could arise to the colonial or home shipping by the proposed measure. Mr. BULLER thought he had a right to make a few observations, and to ask the indulgence of the House for that purpose, as he was the only free-trade Member who had not yet taken part in that discussion. He considered, also, that his Intimate - acquaintance with the affairs of Canada, and the general interest he had taken in colonial questions, would war rant him in making a few brief remarks on this question. He was of opinion that the Noble Lord ( Bentinck), before he unfurled his union jack--( Laughter )—in bold defiance should have exhibited more of the prudence and discretion of the statesman. He thought that instead of indulging in vituperation of the Members of the American Senate and the Royal Family of France, that it would have been much better had he used the lang uage of dignified courtesy, and rather than attempt to lay thefounda tion of war, that he had endeavoured to lay Vie basis of per mantent peaceful relations.—( Hear, hear.) This would have been the more advisable course for him to have adopted rather than to have been bandying bombast with the braggarts of the American Senate, and justifying the tone of the poor Mr. Adams by using a tone of congenial bluiter•—(Loud cheers. ) When the Noble Lord said that toe policy of. the Government would induce Canada to consider the question of annexation with America, lee pulled out a copy of the itontreal Pilot in confirmation of that statement. Now, he (Mr. Buller) would ask, did that paper give vent to the public indignation? It raid that it was of such great importance, and involved such mighty consequences, that it would take a week to think of it.—( Laughter.) Daring the last twenty years, he thought he might safely say that the Goverment of Canada had not given a single office away. But those who ware opposed to the appointment cried out that they would endeavour to rid themselves of British connexion. He contended that the Go , venment had pursued a course of policy in refer ence to Canada which was dictated by the best mat most statesmanlike principles; and the circumstances of their sending out there such men as Sir Charles Bagot and Lord Metcalf proved that they were desirous of comenting the relationship of it with this country by the strongest possible ties. That policy had done more to establish good feeling and coreentment than all the monopoly of their restrictive system. The Noble Lord said that all Canada was roused with feelings of the strongest indignation against the present measure. Now, he (Mr. Buller) must say, that if that were the case, it was the most stupid indignation any ccuntry had ever entertained. (Lord George Bentinck intimated that it was the corn question ' they found fault with). Where, he would ask, did all the timber come from? It came from East Canada, with the ex ception of a small portion of West Carada, on the banks of the Ottawa. The province of West Canada had no interest whatever in the timber duties. In a dispatch of Lord Sydenham when the question was formerly agitated, he stated that not a single soul living in East Canada had any interest whatever in it. These were the indications of the indignation, which accord ing to the Noble Lord was so universally entertained. When the alteration was proposed at that time, petitions came from vari ous parties he admitted, but Lone from the Parliament of Upper Canada. The Parliament of Canada, East or Lower Canada, sent out a petition, and said that they were ready to"„give up the monopoly of the timber trade provided this country gave them a free trade in corn. Such was the universal opi nion entertained in that country on this question. The shipping trade of Canada was a system which reflected scandal upon them. They sent out a parcel of old leaky vessels, and they manned them with a set of disorderly . runaways. What was the -effect of this mode of procedure? Did the mer chants prosper? There never had been se many bank ruptcies as had occurred in New Brunswick and Lower Canada under the operation of this system. There could be no doubt of it that the interests of the United States would be cared for, and that they coal very easiiy find a permanent market for their timber elsewhere. But the Government should protect the people of England by allowing Baltic timber to come in upon the proposed terms, and let the Canada timber find its market in the United States.—( Hear, hear.) He looked upon this as a question of the greatest importance to the people of this country, inasmuch as the deelling of every man in the country would be affected by it, or, in other words, would be affected by the vote which this House should come to to-night. He had' heard a great deal said about Canadian corn, which, he should say. he looked upon as rather extraordinary ; and he saw one Hon. Member opposite blushing high at the mere mention of it.— (Laughter.) However, what had been , said in reference to Canada was rather too much of a good thing, and he felt assured ' that the people of Canada would disavow it.—( Hear.) He begged to thank the House for the patience with which it had heard him.—(Cries of " Hear, hear," and "Divide, divide.") The House then divided, when there appeared to be— For the Ministeral measure ..... ..... .... 232 For the amendment Majority for Ministers --123 TURNPIKE ROADS (SCOTLAND) BILL. Mr. FOX AI AULE moved the sevond reading of the Turn pike Roads (Scotland) Bill, and said that it would be a mea sure which would be attended with great benefit to that country (as we understood him). Mr. F. M'KENZIE said, that though not opposed to the principle of the Bill, he was not prepared, at that late hour of the night, to go into a second reading.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. F. MAULE stated that as the objection was not taken to the notice, he saw no reason why it s i not then be read a second time.—( t • ear, hear. ) Mr. SCOTT also hoped they would not go into the second reading at that late hour.—( Hear, hear.) Sir H. CAMPBELL was decidedly opposed to the prin ciple of the Bill, and would, therefore, oppose the second read ing.—( Hear, hear. ) - Mr. FORBES and Mr. H. JOHNSTONE both hoped that the second reading would not be then gone into, and there being loud cries of " Divide, divide," the House was cleared for a LEEDS, Melina 20. yorY t r STOCK EXCHANGE.-The sales arc-Eastern Cor.ntlea, e di , tension, 15s. p -London and Croydon, 21% - M anc hester suil ip Extensions, 3 p.- Sheffield and Manchester; Quarter ,1 4 p.' 395. p.-York and North Midland, East and West Itidin 4 ,' N GreatGrinisby and Sheffield, 974 --Ditt o , E x tensions, l' a i e ltir Iluddersfl.ld and Manchester, 2% p.-Huddersfield and 6% p.- Leeds and Bradford, 47-Leeds and Den - sburY, 53 get, ford, Worcester, and Wolverhampton, 1238-Wilts, Weymouth, 2 %-London and York, 334 -West Riding -Ambergate, Nottingham, and 2oston, 20s. dis.-Birkeil l ead d ter, Mold, &c., 293. 6d. dis.-Bradfleld, Wakefield, and 3lid l oe ''' dis.-Buckimhamshire (late Rugby), Bs. 6cl. tion. 17s. 6d. dis.- Leeds and Li verpoo l Di rec t , B s . Gd. dis•- Leicel York, 21s. dis.-Leeds, Wakefield, and 31i land, 83. dis * - and Bedford, 7s. fid. 4 i3-Manchester, Buxton, M a tlock, d land, 295. dis.-Midland and Thi rs k Junction, 265. 6d. dl 'wes:€' l. timberland and Lancash:re J unc ti on , 255. du.- North 14s. p.-South Midlands, 15s. p.- Midland, 145. HULL, MArtcu 20. STOCK ExgriANGE.-The sales are -North British, East Coast, 145.-Great North and South Wales and IV IN i!.; IV paid-Hull and BarnsleyJunction,26s.-Li verpoo l and 1 O" M° usr• North Staffordshire, 5/. 165.-South Midland, 31. 3 8 . -S and Birmingham, 21. 145.-Tean and Dove Valley,l23. , MRCH 20. 3 45 ' 1 % F STOCK EXCHANGE.-The saIes SHEFFIELD are- A Midland, al therham, 34-Grimsby - and Sheffield, Quarter Shares, Riding Union, 4%. YORK, Marten 20. tt 11/ 01. ,g°ttin t - id STOCK Exeexci. -The sales are l - Grr.rid Union Lynn), X, -Great I 4lmsby and Sheille' J , Q ua rter Shares , (o l; center and Beclf.rd, 15s. 6d.-Lou' and York, 3% a irx Buxton, Matlock, and Midland, 31, 14&-Newcastle and n e ' -North British, Carlisle Extension, 21. 45,-York and No r laud, New (East and West Ridi ng ) , 94 . v EDI:I*Z BURGH, MARCH IS. ate, 4`, . - 0 , STOCK Excriewus.- The Sales :Ire-Airdrie and Bathg,,,,r British and Irish Union, 465. -Caledonian, 11--Ditto , 355.-Direst Northern, 425. Gd.-East India Railway , . ' l t ' u gG Lothian Central and Tyne Valley Junction, 265. 64. - E di T l9 Mr, Bathg,ate. 365. -Edinburgh and Leith Atmospheric , ~. r ok .", burgh and No. - thern, 808 .- Ditto, Ne - .vport, 175 .- Ditto , ' tio n,; 2113.-Edinburgh and Peebles, 295.-Forth and Clyde J un t e solP i e Glasgow and Leshmahagow, 425.-Great North _,°,.„ to;•,. 465.-Invernesg and Elgin, 2(13.-.North British, Extensio n lisle, 465. Ed„-Ditto, ditto to Dalkeith, 61. 4s. - Perth and I O C" 335. 6 4, - Scottish Central, 164-Ditto, New, 8 - stirllng fl44nline, 335, GLASGOW, Marren 19. ogee' STOCI ExcnAwan.-The sales are -Airdrie and Da i tiltish and Irish Union, 425. 6d.-Caledonias, 1 565.-Caledonlan and Ayrshire Junction, 355.-C3 l6 'ord , " i i Dumbartonshire Junction, 378.-Coms all and Devon te..ory, -Direct Northern, 405.-East Indian Railway, 118. ,` l * 61. s General Terminus, 91.- Glasgow and Belfast Union, 2 " . i Csv,si Kilmarnock, and Ayr, New, 241.- Glasgow, Dumfries, „;,gol , 355.- Glasgow, Kilmarnock, and Ardrossan, Dundee Junction, 333.-Great North of Inslia, 43.- Toed Elgin, 20s. 61--Kilmarnock and Ayr Direct, 375. -,e d.--0$ 41s.- Scottish Central, 164-Scottish Southern. 35g ioall f Midland, 575. 0.-Stirling and Dunfermline, 3 13 . - Coltness, 47%. FLANDERS MAIL. ,;„ 01 BRUSSELS, MARCH 17.—The average price of w 1;1.'4 week ending on Saturday, the 14th o f M a rch, wa s „ o' o sl per hectolitre. The average p r i ce o f w h ea t for ! c ` ^- lowing weeks having been bet ween 20f. a nd 241 1i bitJ 1 law of September 24, 1845, which absolutely P l T he ref'y exportation of cern, having left flour s u bject t°,`,.„511 0 4 tions of the law of july 31, 1844, the Minister of dares that the exportation of wheat flour will be r 4 1 from the 24th of this month. 00' 4 ;1 f ' 4 R XPORTS CONCERNING TIIE MlNlSTRy.—Yester as lo )1 , a negotiation containing the persons to whom e v ,r; fir ° k been made. We may mention, in the Chela,,, e obe . s4 D'Elhoungue, then M. Brouckere ,• not in the uu.7, 0 ,1 9 " Leclerq, Attorney-General in the Court of Cas 3 a tiv Van de Weyer. r 04 1 It is reported to-day that M. Van de e Y e t ietl , r D'Elhoungue do not think th e y can j o i n combiesA s fo f i e same is said of M. Leclerq, but not so positively to °„,:i D'Elhoungue, for whom an important part seeec ie served (for he is said to have stipulated in re", Flanders) in this Cabinet, it is believed that be °c o o Q„'" to Ghent this very day. M. Rogier, it is said, re c „"h4 .. ,i'; Veydt as Minister of Finance, and M. Minister of Public Works, and on M. Chazal a s tY War. bat i '4 4 The Independence says We are ass ured t, r oe' present state of things n o thi ng h as b een discusse d co rsr:7o the persons of whom the Minist r y shall be,, o Dic' Whether 31 Rogier accepts or declines the task been offered him, it may be foreseen that eight e 'j.'' mu ten st pass before the new Cabinet can be co nstitil t re so e ;4' The accounts from Germany re ce ived to-daY A t v were to be foreseen. There is no alternative fo r gents but voluntary exile or a prison. fb The Prussian Government shows forbearance t°,,e bitants of Cracow, who fly from the regimen of 'LK law, which now govern the republic; it has alr eau' several hundred emigrants. DUTCH MAIL. tbe Cb9 THE HAGUE, MARCH 16.—1 n the sitting of of the States-General to-day the Central Sectre Dr! eccitY up its report on the project of law respecting tsin a suer. The day on which the public discrP tll ` project will commence is not yet fixed OM journals to the end of November saY,' A ce Y, the district of Jassinga heavy' rains 1,7 e ; a great rise in the river, which on the night of t V I A carried away one stone, and five wooden bridg,6oey Buistenzong and Bantam. In the month ° f „ i • r afel''. native trading vessels were chased by ilce v" be , Adonara, one of them was taken by th e pirates , l y taken out the cargo and crew, consisting of Ove n I t iralo set the vessel adrift, which soon afterwards ran 1 0 4 / Boleng, in the Mind of Solon The other vessel, Ae chased by the pirates, did not fall into their hentof° r 2 On Tuesday last his Royal Highness the Pri n ▪ .";i and Princes Henry and Alexander, accorereal 1 Aids de Camp, General de Klerck, and seve" 6i Aids Officers, went to the Downs to witness „perire..eged with a newly invented kind of rockets, which 11.° far superior to those of Congreve or Paixhams I/. 0. DUTCH FUNDS.—AMSTERDAM, 3 rA gC° None. !I Actual Debt, 2% per Cent.. •••• • • • • 2, gl 4 , Bitto, per Cent . ..... ... •• • g!'" Ditto, 4 per Cent........... 991▪ 1 Amort Syndic, 434 per Cent.. 804 Ditto, 3% per Cent. 161% 1' Commercial Company, 4% per Cent • • yl 4 East India Loan, 4 per Cent-- • • • • Exchange on London, at sight .. Two months l2 1 On Hamburgh, at sight •• • • o : 3 '. Two months.— ••• • • • ')° •--Ditch Papers, March 18. 0 11 ;0 0 HAMBURGH BORSBNHAT,LE, .0••' ( BilLg• Austrian 5 per Cents ........ • •• •• .. 1 , 0 13 :06 4 Bank Shares •• • ••••••••• • • • • • • • ;- jei Anglo-Russian Loan ........ ••.••• •• io2 rb/ Russian 5 per Cent., 'lamb. Certificate. Ditto Ist series Inscription ........ •• • • 1 ,1 / Ditto, Hope and Co., 3d and 4th series • • Ditto, in Certificate.— ....... r 4 New 4 per Cent., Hope and Co. ••- • • • B '.liltd Ditto Stlcglitz . . ..... . . ...... 88 a / Spanish New 5 per Cent.. ..... .• • • I' 4 ; / Ditto 3 per Cent • • :" Anglo-Portuguese Loan, 234 per Cent • • Dutch Actual Debt, 2X per Cent • • • • • Ditto 3 per Cent. • . • . • • • • • • • • • • • • 1 ' Polish New 4 per Cent. Joan, 1844 • • • • Anglo-DanishLoan, 3 per Cent v • • • • • • National Bank Shares. • BELGIAN FUNDS.--Batruns, a.- c II - Actual Debt, 2y. per Cent • • • • • • • • Rothschild's Loan, Five per Cent '''' " Loan of Thirty Millions, Four per Cent - • • Ditto Three per Cent...... ••• • ' • Ditto Thirty-seven Millions, ditto • • • • '• 1 1 '!", Ditto, ditto, 1.840 .. .• .••• • • • ' • 1 0 ,,5i Ditto, ditto, 1842 • .. • • • • • • • • • Ditto, 1844. ..... . • • • " 9 1 Ditto, 1836.. .. • • • • • • • • • Ditto, 1838 .. 100 Ditto of the City, 1832 .... . ...... • ••' Ditto, 1843 Bank ofßelgium...... . ••• • "' —Brussels Papers. March 19. 1 1 ' )i` i PRUSSIAN FUNDS.—BERLIN, St. Schuld Sch., 3' per Cent 9834 /1 Pruss. English Bonds, 1830, 4 per Cent.• • • • • • 5% / Foreign Exchanges •• • • • ••• • ' 2 / Exchange on London, £ 1 Sterling, 3 Months. 6 0 0,4 / Hamburgh, 309 Marks, 2 Months. ' 8 0)f Paris, 300 fr., 2 Months . • • • • • •• • OnParis ........ Tw0m0nth5............• . • —traversal Prussian Gazette. March 15. ros o iril? [ADVERTISEMENT.] —BA D E ALTO , YEARS.—IDINIEDIATE RELIEF BY HOLLOWAY'S rg' — ‘ ll, Y joil`; I letter from the Rev. George Prior, Curate of MeV:of r, 2 3 ► Carrigart, Ireland, May 2, 1845 proleP r efAl v. ';l74 Dear Sir: Within a short distance of my to u f:ia "„ r ri, farmer, who for more than twenty years had be.,`: ft7iilt. o l o , health, and never got but a moment's relief. I ", — goo u b ff l `o box of your pills for h;m, which did him so rouc J i . ate j ) 4t J• him say, that for twet.ty years previously he ile ire t sfe, 7 4.l eujoyed it so much as since taking your pills. PRIOR." Sold at ProfeSsor Holloway's Es . tabils lo ',iy and by nearly all who sell medicines throughout the On our re-admission there appeared-- For the second reading Against it Majority Mr. CHARLES HULLER moved for a return of the outrages specially reported to tne constabulary office in Ireland, during each of the years 1842, 1843, 1844, and 1845 ; and also an abstract return of total number of persons in Ireland ap pearing, by the returns of the clerks of the Crown and clerks of the peace of the several counties, &c. to have been com mitted fir trial in the year 1845, as well as of those con victed, acquitted, discharged for no Bill fund, or no prose cution, or bailed and not triad ; distinguishing the various offences. Mr. CALEB POWELL moved for a return of all the cut rages charged as having been committed on the barony of Ossory from the Ist of January, 1845, to the termination of toe last as,izes. He thought that it was hardly necessary to explain to the House his object in making this motion. Sir J. GRAHAM said that he wished to say a few words with regard to what bad fallen from the Hon. Member fur Liskearc!. He believed that the constabulary returns had no occasion for the return moved for by the Honourable Member. He was most desirous that every information the House could desire with reference to subjects that should be preented before that House should be. obtained. For the furtherance of that object he reserved to himself the right of presenting information in a ddition to that sought by the Hon. Member. With reference to the motion of the Hon. Member, in addition to the one of which notice had been given, he was not aware whether the particular information sought could be obtained from any question. Mr. C. BULLER said that his object in raising the question was that he might save trouble by doing so. The remaining orders of the day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at One o'clock. ,i Tie the k Uolclrrs tile of es, Watch • , Match NIVE cB44ital k ' , spot ' ll . The allot] 4 e, 4ZrY rral:C3l.l°' th; r 4 I ta 'Woke ltv e6 n l Pan gy red,lenera /noon t han II *titZ t 'n Ct t o l t4 D l4,7 :ilVi ' : 41, 3% lin t l / 4 -.e kay 1 1 4 1 ' 1 4 a coNTI relogic ,iikr4tizeatres, tt 4:4 h PC CU IR SA )i ktion Ilkp„), rei Precisely 1,,T, Ist, I' Ti;:t the 149 I,oUolvlnl 4 2 ie ces b 1 35 Feces pi 12, 0 1- r lartn on , 13 ,reneh s. yT (Ara, 11 c 3P, Patt l , ' 411 q 0 1(1 jrl ' -3 ;ca, Leos, , pfti t b asket! 41 4 ,, cotton tst,k, 'es, fire , : bsti„,: i idered 1. L„kia ' thilgeB Mee toi d r t ,ser de Nik ! 11 , C AW:, 4 t, 4 8 ! () Ols, 4 0 ttr, a Pinta T fif4l(l ...............:m.m........e `....._.------- et C.‘ BIRTHS . srt,' On the 15th inst., at New Peckhaxt, Mrs. Sta ff Or e ' ,1' On the 15th inst., at Westbourne-place, Exton -14 1 Webb, of a daughter. t/I . 4 l' On the 17th Inst., at the Vicarage, Takely, Jae' '' -.' Rev. Charles Clarke, of a son. ~ ref' 1 1 ' On the 17th inst., the wife the Rev. Georg" 0 .1 . Camps, Cambridgeshire, of a ion. 010 1 ) 1, ,* On the 11th inst., at Humber Rectory, the Rev. Allan Cowburn, of a (laughter. vr o 0 116 p 1" On the 18th inst., in Great Ormond-street, -,-- • ,I)- ( el ,l of a daughter. Hereto i 6 am , th' pr. o, On the 18th inst., at Rectory-grove, Clapb 4 0114 Hodgetts Deacon, Esq., of a son. ' lol l/ Cr MARRIED. lc e ' km t".. . Froder ie o.." On the 17th inst., at St. Peter's, Pimlico, Esq ,of Bayland Hall, Norfolk, to Isabella Harrie t ' i eli ie f c" eo 4 ' Robert Bruce, Esq., of Chester-square. CI , On the 17th inst., at St. John t h e Evangeli L' tiellsl l „.) youngest son of the late John Blad ul p h, Es q ., of 0 d ,01 , shire, to Caroline Margaret, daug hter of the late ,1 0 Thomas, Bart., of Meilen), Sussex. On the 17th inst., at St. Aun's, Soho, Miss B• 15. 6.16) , ,0i0 Jefferson, of Cheltenham . .„.. t iti j On the 18th inst. , a t the Lutheran Church, , '" c t e l ' ger• 0 , side. J. C. H. Freund, Esq., M-D., to Louisa A. ll ol io° DIED. tan ce ' On the 17th ins t., at Bromle y , Mi ddles ex, COll- 4..., child of the late F. W. Carter, Esq, ff etl' f r , 16 AO , On the sth ult. , at Margate, Miss Sarah Etchli 60o.Astece , Recently, at Naples, the infant (laughter of T. ..1 IO r On the 3d inst., in 6loane-square, Chelsea, 31 ", t of t° (0 1 On the 9th inst., at Hampstead, Mrs. Sale, r v-, "" of ° / George Sale, aged 90. rigo gt On the 11th inst., at Darmstadt, Robert, 3 70 ;1, 1 1. oVel t it Right Rev. Joseph Allen, D.D., Lord BishoP 01 , — iiii 1/ ` ~,er g i l On the 12th inst., Delia, the wife of 31r. J° • ix - Sussex, aged 51. n t , o rlij' cl s On the 13th inst., at Sherfleld-green, 114--$ , Mr. Edward Vines. t a" tljter 91,4 On the 17th inst., Mary Camilla, the infan t IV' ,f _ , Gibb, Esq., of the Bombay Army. Alchar a 9° " f ir On the 17th inst., Sarah, relict of the late 0' St. Jehn's Horilydown, aged 89. snaP On the 16th' Sotith inst., atWoolston Lawn, near sic , ) widow of the Rev. Henry Wocilcock, o.D. On the 16th init., Mary Ward Armstrong, ; re , l 4 lc . t °f pe, )1 • strong, Esq., of Great Cumberland -street, agt '' / o _eill , , l e 1 4 On the 17th inst., in Prospect-places l'i .„, s pe Esq., M.D., aged G 5. --- o ___-f r , _ --- 0 orpo aJO ad' London: Printed and Published by XL ~ t.t .AII ( , o pe Strand, Printer, at The Sun thfce, Xo. Ilx ~..„ Sts k f e '" of the Savoy, in the County o 21. 1846. •