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That the Government of the country was nor ' a populist one was to him - (slr. it.) a. aubjeet orgreatjoy, and the improvement which the revenue had undemone was a proof of the policy of the reduction of taxation, 'The motion he aub mittetl must be equally interesting to those Who thought' every thingthe Minister did was right, as to those who saw when he did wrong. He therefore presumed there could be no °pre. aition to it. HOUSE OF LORDS, JULY 16. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY took the oaths and his seat by the title of Earl Vane. Ills Lordship's -supporters were the .Earls Of SitATTSByRY and BRISTOL. IiRITISH INSTITUTION, PALL-MALL. ,T HE GALLERY,with a SELECTION of the WORKS of SIR JOSHUA REYNOLDS, and of the SPANISH, FLEMISH, and DUTUH SCHOOLS, inclu ding the 'celebrated Picture by PARMIGIANO; called "The Vision of St. Jerome," lately purchased by the Insti tution, IS OPEN DAILY, from Ten in the Morning until 'Six In the Evening. By Order, JOHN YOUNG, Keeper. Admission Is.—Catalogue Is. RICHBELL-COURT, LAMB'S CONDUIT-STREET. • frO be LET, by the Masters, Governors, and . . 1 1- Trustees of the Bedford Charity, on a repairing Lease, )tor 19i years, from Michaelmas next, a HOLISB, No. I, Itiehbell.coort, Lamb's Conduit.street. Persons desirous of taking the same are to send in Proposals in writing, sealed UP. to the Receiver, Mr. Goober', No. 82, Great Russell.' street, Bloomsbury, on or before the 2d of August next.--A form of the proposal, and a particular of the repairs, May be' seen on the premises; or at No. 82, Great Russell-street, be. tweeu the hears of eleven and three. IRELAND, CATHOLIC ASSOCIATION. [From tht Dublin Morning Post of July 14.] , Ou Saturday the Catholic Association met at their rooms, No. d, Capel-street. At half-past three o'clock Joseph Wionnell, Esq. was called to the chair. - - ' The proceedings of the former day's meeting, and notices of motions having been read by Richard O'Gorman, Esq., secre tary pro temp., that Gentleman read a letter addressed by Earl Grey to Nicholas, Purcell O'Oorthan, Esq., secretary of the esthetic Association, of which the following is a copy:— " Ilanover.square, July b. " Sir—Your letter of the 28th ult. has only .this moment reached me. , " I.aul much flattered by the confidence of the Catholic As. soeiation l and should have felt, in forwarding and presenting their Petaled, and in supporting it to the best of my power, that I was disc,harging both an honourable and a pleasant duty; but I am unfortunately under the necessity of leaving London ott 'Wednesday, and, must, therefore, recommend et to you to COMDlit the care of your idterests on this occasion to other bands. ' " Indeed, the session is now so fur advanced, that there would be DO good opportunity for a discussion on so important a subject . ; but the Petition may be forwarded with a view to ; a resumption of the subject when Parliament re-assembles. I *hall then by happy to affbrd any assistance in my power; but to triable me to do so, it would be necessary to furnish me with detailed,statements and facts, which can be made out b evidence if required, in,,support of the ,allegations Of the Petition. " I have the honour to be, Sir,. " Your Most heimble servant, " GREY. " To N. P. O'Gorman, Esq., 4, Capel-street, Dublin." Mr.O'CONN.ELi. said,that he rose to propose a vote of thanks to Henry Brougham, Esq., for his late splendid exertions in Parliament, in support of • the Petition on the administration of justice in Ireland. It was the first occasion they took of putting • It petition into the hands of any hot an"lriah Member, and the result was, 50 far, most favourable. Ile did not think it would have been proper to have entered into details on the subject in thaLpeiltion : he thought it more advisable to speak in general 'terms in the first instance ; this, however, was not from want nf evidence as to particular facts, the Injustice was as notorious as the sun at noon.day. The debate on that petition con. tainedmuch instruction, as it showed what they had to expect. !gr. Brougham, after making one of the most talented and energetic speeches ever heardin the Hotise of Commons, was followed,by Colonel Bsrry; and also by Mr. GoulhutP, both of whom opposed the petition, and the latter Gentleman, on this notable argument • —lle (Mr. (loulbum) mild, that in the petition he (Mr. O 'Connell) spoke highly orthe Couit of Bench t but the petition contained nothing relative to other. Judges. What he (Mr. O'Connell) said in that petition was tint flattery, it was not used for the purpose of advancing his interest; and the praise bestowed there had its justification in the 'Vence obterved with respect to others. Mr. lien them, or, as he is familiarly tented,Jereiny Ilentham,has said that a jury is acheck upon Judges; but our Judges. in this instance, are a cheek uponjuries. It Would seem at if Mr. GoulbUrn had been sent hefe ass check upon Lora Wellesley, for fear his Excellency would be too liberal. Mr. G. had serVed hit apprenticeship in this coon - - t 1.7. Secretaries were seat here in Order to q4alify them for higher situations in England, as barbers' apprentices were first rent to shave beggars.—(Laughter ;)-rand frequently they 'curse' the shock for being too thin, when they chance to cut their fingers ID shaving .--( Continue dlaughter.)—Tt. would be idle to talk of the, purity of ii- Jury, in a trial between a Catholic and an Orangeman; 'where that . Jury is formed Of 12 " brothers," chosen from amongst the antagonists of the Catholic. Mr. Goulburn, who is reapectable gentleman, is of no great calibre in point of talent; with such talent as he possesses, he defends the present system of the administration of justice ip Ire land; but they had the authority of. Sir John Fable!" for saying that it was no disgrace' to a man to labour in his vixe t tiOn." The next defender of that system was Colonel Barry,, who *lke, forsooth, of Magna Charla. In England :the toast Enikine arid the Trial by Jury ;" whilst among tbe opiogenien in Ireland, it is " Colonel Barry and the 1' 4 44 y." Was this the same Colonel Barry, and had :he, erases eye improved yeae.l79B, so much. by his English edu eation ? 1 4 _1(4kk cane Mr. Richard Martin, Member for Gal will, and Janie' ,Daly, He (Mr. O'Connell) did not think thty had wprse enemies than Mr. Martin and Mr. Daly.— Whit signified' their vete, on the' Other discussion—that of Ca tholic Emancipation, which was a mere mockery and a farce—. when they pond them; the: representatives of Catholic Galway, agavt tmem on every other subject. They were not • afraid of their own enemies, the Orangemen; _bqt they should guard vigilantly against the efforts pretended friends. Of Mr. Christopher Hutchinson he was afraid to Speak—he owed him It lasting debt of gratitude. Mr. • Hutchinson opposed the Taros. Lie always employed his active, energetic, and strenuous ' exertion's, in support of every measure connected with the interest !‘of Ipelatid_, and if he did err on that single occasion, he stands: in all other respects unstained. In the discussion on that .petition, the reply tell to Mr. Brougham: he followed the 'job to his den. When taunted with the mode in which the letter addressed to a judge was brought forward, although n he was in possession of the fact of its havisg been accidentally„ perhaps he should say providentially, asund on the high way, lee -did not think it worth his while to state that fact, bid brought his fire into the enemy's camp, awl asked them Where got 'you the Queen's letter ?" The publication of that letter; while it prevented one man from being a Judge, has certainly not ornamented the career of another. Amongst the opposers of their petition was Mr. 'Peel, who was a good working man t )Robinson, who was good at figures of arith, metic; arid Mr. (running, who was good at figures of speerih.— kr. Broughani was, in fact, a giant amid pigmies. In speaking `of him it would reqiiitia portion of his own talent to do justice to his. If ever the day should arrive when they should erect in this country—not a Wellington testimonial, or a Nelson pil. tar, but--a column to Justice, the first name inscribed on that , column, cloie to the alter. of . Matice; - ahrould' be that of Henry Brougham. Mg. O'Connell's motion being seCnded, was then moved, and carried tnanimuusly." it was then resolved, that a copy of this Resolut i on auOilict be trinstuirted to:Henry Itroughauri, Esq. Time Meeting then adjourned, after, thanks to dig Mimeo to the last Saturday in October* • PILLAR IN HONOUR OF 1.513 MAJESTY.—The Commissioners of King's' Town Harbour luve been molt in. defatigable in forwarding its completion, and aiding to its grandeur, utility' nd effect. Saturday se'nnight they succeeded to erecting the great granite pillar in., commemoration of our gracious'Sovereign's departure from Dublin, which rises over the harbour, and measures in one solid stone J 6 feet. The co. luinn, it is intended, should be forty" feet high. It is placed on the rerywinihg parr of a riditeiot rocks which extended froth the shore into the interior, which are now used in making the Went pier. lt has an admirable efect, as the spot, in which it meads 1* 1 that now remains of the great ridg., The base Tltti'in the bos o m of title ea fragment, and inuneaiately, under ;;',! pillar are four, great great!, orbs. The appearance of the ,jukte is Very striking, find Worthy the memorable occasion /144 K is sus i l o ct e s og tcstintonial.—(Doliin 'Paper7l) SLAVE TRADE. The Earl of command o f his MAJESTY, Livßiti(3bl , , i) --- laid on the table certain papers r elative to the Slave Trade. Mr. TOMLYNS, from the Treasury, presented the 6th Re. port of the Commissioners of rnqutry into the Revenue of Ireland. Mr. BROGDEN and others brought up a message announc ing that the Commons had agreed to the amendments made by their Lordships in the East India Trade 4341. THIRD READINGS. The Cork General Sessions Bill, the East India Meeting Bill, the Irish Lew Expences, and the Milbank Penetentiary Bills were read a third time and passed. SCOTCH JUICY COURTS. The Earl of ABERDEEN, in order to show that the state ment which he had made on a former occasion respecting the want dimmest, of Jury Courts in Scotland, moved for Returns specifying the 'Wes of the several Triats during the last cit. .cuits of the Civil CourtsOMstice in Scotland..-.-Agreed'to. Mir 'WEAVERS. • Lord E IJLE NBOROU Glt presented three Petitions against the Silk ManufactUrers Bill = the first signets by 6,000 silk weavers of Coventry, the next by 2,000 weavers of Maccles field, and the last by two or 300 weavers of another place, the, name of which was not heard.—Laid on the table. Lord BEXLEY, in moving the third reading of the Silk Ma.. nufacturers' Bill, said that before proceedingto pass that mea sure, every opportunity had been properly, given to the parties whopetitioned against it, to establish their case ; and indeed no body of petitioners had ever deserved a more attentive hear ing, or more patient investigatiOn, as none had ever displayed a more peaceable disposition, and more constant loyalty. HA Lordship then • went into the history of the and contended that it would be unjust to keep the Silk Trade. in London un der restraints to which other trades were not subjected. ' Since the commencement of the present century that trade had more than double itself, and the quantity of raw material con. sumed, had risen from 800,000 lbs. to upwards of two millions. But that increase had taken place chiefly in the country where the trade was not subject to any restrictions. In London it had rather diminished, as many manufacturers had quitted town and formed estates in various parts of the country. Between one-third and one-fourth of the looms in London were em ployed in' making articles that were not subject to regulation. •It had been said, in favour of the existing restrictions, that, since they had passed, 60 years ago, the weavers had been quiet.„ whereas there were previously constant disturbances amongst them. This assertion, however, was not borticliat:by facts. There had been considerable disturbances in 17611 4 . 1 'biiethey had been atmeased, and the weavers , had grown perfectly tranquil in 17b9, fourteen years before• the laws which it was now intended to repeal had been enacted. Their peaceable con. duct was theretbre not dependent on the existence of those laws. Vain attempts having been made to effect a compromise between the masters and the men, which would promote the interests of both, the question that now came to their Lord ships was, whether die whole of the Acts were to be repealed or to stand, and he thought that there could be no difference of opinion as to the injury which they did' to the matitifiteturers. With refit to the protection which the men conceived they derived from the interference of Magistrates, in the regulation of their waged , ft might at any timerbe rendered illusory . br an agreement amengthemasters to limit the quantity of work put into the men's', handi 1 for by reducing their 'work, thzir re. ceipts would be his effectually reduced as if their wages had been lowered. In , effectually the present Bill, their Lordships were called upon to take a Step beneficial to all branches of the Silk trade, for it was impossible that the trade should flourish without a proportionate. irhyrtremedt in the tftnditibn of the Men. The lowering of the duty on the raw material *Quid .be made up to the Revenue bir.a duty on the importation of attic cies of foreign manufacture, for without the introduction of a certain prOportion of foreigd Minufacttfres _effective conipeti. tion could scarcely be expeefeil. He rigreited that the:meso sures should be Viewed with attforehensioN bose *hoed benefit it was intendesl, but as he iya convin ced that theft oh= jectlon to it arose from a false impreialon, he should move that the Bill be now read a third time. The Earl of HA RRONITBY Contendea. that tii6 existence of a great body of manufacturers in the Metropolis Was In itself an evil, which must be increased if that body ceased to be subjected to strict regulations. For a popillation.Of that kind, subject to sudden alterations of distress by the want of a demand, of the rise of the necessaries of life l ,must 'fade.. :Jelly endanger public trancjtiillity. This was proved by• what bad taken place before the, , passing of the Acts which it Was now proposed to repeal. There were then frequent dia' turbances whilst since all had been universal tranquillity, and that large body of men had exhibited to the metropolis an ad mirable example of peaceful conduct and loyalty, at a time when almost every other class of manufacturing people in London and in other places had giten . way to the seductions of political. agitators. It had been said.. that whilst silk ma. nufacttirers had encreased in every part of the country. the augmentation had been less considerable in London in con sequence of the restrictions to which the silk trade was sub jected in that city. Now inst:ad of 'Considering that to be a disadvantage, he looked upon .it as a positive good. Even had silk manufacturers in London diminished from the same cause, he should not be sure that it was not an advantage ; fof if, by not repealing the Acta a greater proportion of silk manufacturers were driven to the countr, he thought that a desirable object would be attained. I t had been urged that as the attempts made by the Committee to precure a com promise had failed, the 11111 must be passed as it was. Ile did not see the necessity of that. Why should not their hardships enforce the corr.pronnse which had been reftised ? If the Bill should pass as it now stood, instead of having fifty or sixty thousand silk weavers carrying on the manufacture in the bo som of their families, the metropolis would see large buildings erected, with three or four hundred workmen shut up with t h em , exposed to greater sufferings from the failure of a demand, arid to the certainty of their morals being in time destroyed., The effect might be to increase our exports; but if that augmenta. don were counterbalanced by the destruction of the morals of -our weavers, by their exposure to more frequent distress and by greater danger to the peace of the metropolis,. he could not con ceive that any good would have been obtained. It was im, possible that the feelings of men should be expressed with more respect than the Spitallields weavers had displayed the House had met them with corresponding attention, and he trusted that even if the measures in contemplation were not abandoned, they might bean modified as to produce a gradual Ind not a sudden change in their situation. The Noble Earl concluded by moving that the Bill be read a third time that day three months. The Earl of LIVERPOOL did justice to the loyal and peaceable conduct of the great body of the petitioners. He knew as much of their conduct as any Noble Peer in that House l • he knew that in the most critical times no body of men ha d ever displayed more patience, more loyalty, and more attachment to the Crown and the coun try than the poor Spital -fields weavers. But feeling that they were in the greatest possible cranes as to their own interests, he could not allow his opinion of their loyalty to prevent him from doing his duty. —All the Noble Lords who had attended the Committe, with the exception of one, had unanimously declared thatit was proper and expedient that the present Bill should be passed. —llia Noble Friend had objected to the increase of manufac tures, but what ferined the strength and power of this country ? What bad raised us to the height which we occupied, and en abled us to carry on the long war in which we had been en gaged P Was it not our manufactures ? Nay, 'had they not - even contributed to render apiculture prosperous ? And was there a Noble Peer front Ireland or Scotland who would not hail their establishment i n hi s country, not only; for purposes of trade, but because of the benefit which they yielded to the landed interest ? AS to the apprehended destruction of morals and loyalty, by the spread of m anufactores, he could not agree w ith hi s Noble Friend. Ile knew not of* body of inhabitants' at all times more loyal, orderly, and peaceable than those of B irru in glum, Neither ditihe know of a more loyal place in the kingdom than Manches ter, although persons who did not know the circumstances. of former events miht have conceived a diff er e nt o pi n i on . He s h ou ld .not theref ore easily accede to reflection thrown upon manufacturers, as necessarily leading to the infringement of po b -- lie tranquility or to loss ofloyalty. T h e real ground on *hich ,th e Ilill was opposed was one which could not be very agreeable to die petitioners sgainat It; . for it was this: that a large-body of ma n u e e et eeces in the metropolis Was a bad thing, anti= that the existing regulations having a tendency to drive them into ',...the country,,,oushcnot mate repealed . His NA& I,ietkit,hul said, that previous to the enactment of those restrictions, there had been frequent disturbances, but none *Ante. Now the origin of the silk . manufacturers' country was due to the emigration which tonic place, frOm France, in eonsequence of the revocation of the Edict of Nantes. Nobody had proved more loyal cinder trying situations than the Spitalfields sills weavers, until after the peace of 1718. At that period a great importation of silk goods from France materially injimed tht manufacture, and the, disturbances which arose were deeply Mixed with political feelings: The Duke of Tedford, who had signed the treaty, and vas 'unpopular on 'that account, happened to live in . a part of the town not very distant front Spitalfields, and- was often threatened by the weavers fdr hav ing brought that evil upon them. . Such ; was the chief cause of the distfirbances which had preceded the existing )tct.4, and that cause was political.. 74%threspect to the nattire of thOse A. it must be prejudicial to' one branch of trade to submit the reiculatiOns of its Ways td MagistratO, unless" the same restriction should extend to other trades; and then could it be proper td make the Government, for Magistrates were the Government pro Nutt', a party In the doni es tic arrangethents of Workmen and their master* The regulatidlis also said, that no silk manufactory should be established within ten piles of the Royal Dxchangt, but as only Lotidon and illidalesel were mentioned in the Act, there was a silk manufacture now forming at Streatham, in the county of Surrey, ishin five miles of the metropolis. • Theiie acts operated In the' most .injurlous manner to the manufactures of Spitallieldi, and the only reason that could be urged ai,rainst the Bill for their repeal was not the necessity of protecting the weavers, brit ; the propriety of driving the Silk trade from bontiori. He alkiiied, however, that it would have been preferable to obtain the object in view by regular approaches, anti should have been glad had it been possible to eftect a compromise. One party were willing, but the other had refused. Under these circumstances he should say content- to the third reading of the Bill, because it stood on sound principles ; and if against the wishes of the silk roe nufacturers, would nevertheless; he was convinced, promote their.real interests. _ L , The LORI) CHANCELLOR, though he lamented the ne. cessity in which he was placed to differ from his Noble Friend, anti should do it with infinite pain, considered that it would be inconiistent With his duty to give a silent vote on this subject. He saw it recorded on the fact of the Bill that the policy of the Act which it was proposed to repeal had been three times en forced at the expiration of nineteen years , each time, by ano. titer Act, so .as to be confirmed by the sanction of nearly half a century. During the same penod two Irish Acts of a similar nature had Ow been passed. Now all these five Acts were to be wholly and suddenly abolished. If this were neeea. nary to be dune, let a policy of . such long standing bo at least changed gradually anti not suddenly. It had been acknow. ledged that if a compromise had been'accepted, and he lament. ed that it had been refused, their Lordships would have been contented with an Act carrying that compromise into effect what could they do better now than to enforce that compromise which had been rejected,'lnitead of passing the whole Bill.—. Such a coast would secure to Parliamentthe means of making any other gradual change which might be, thought-pteper, end would give time to remove many objections, and to reconcile the feelings .of the manufacturers to the.proposed alteration. It was not only necessaey to consult thointerests of men who had always been distinguished for order and loyalty, buts.they must be made to feel that those interests had really been consulted.— If !the question he to enforcd the third reading or the Bill; . lie should not conscientiously be alile to say . content to the motion:- Earl itossrxN suggested the propriety.of repealing only so ,;much of the eXisting Acts av wouleallow the free employ.' nient of capital on the part of master manufacturers wherever they might think proper. Ii this suggeition Were adopted, the Bahl mitt be read a third dine, on the ttntlerstlintUng that the , amendment should aftetwards be made, and that the only part of the ancient Act repealed, should be diet festriction Which was must abtOrd and. monstrous. 'This would be better than throwing out the Bill; with a certainty.that it must be brought in stain -next Session, and that irritation rould oily be kept up instead of being assuaged and pacified. Atter a few remarks from Lord lit the Earl Of WEelisidni.ionti . , stud Lord II V', the suggeition of the Earl of Rosatt:e .teastiederastaer to be ad o pt e d, and the third reading of the Bill to he postponed till to,mov row , t o g i ve daft to prepare the arocialitieetiottroed. //OUSE COMMONS. 'VEL 1 E tLEV presented a petition from the frebboiders of t h e county. of Inverness, praying fur tile repeal of the Bailie nutlet—Laid on the table. AvEeisici from the Treasury, presented accounts of Customs, Dutiets'dcc.—Ordered to lie on the table. , Mr. Jour:STOW, from the Office of Chi e f Sec:rotary for Ire land, presented account* relatiCe to the COUnty of Galway.— Ordered to he on the table. ' The Report of the Committee on the Poor Laws was brought up, and agreed to, and ordered to be printed. A contract for Mice montha . Clothing for Seamen waS Pre sented from the Nary_ Ofßee.—Ordered to be printed. COMBINA'fION LAWS. Mr. HUME presented it petition, figned by 180(1 of the I" - habitant:it of Nottingham; coMplainlhg of the inconifeniences arising from the Combination Acts..:-Ordered to lieon the table. CASE OF TRESPASS, n ON presented a Petition from John Cohely, of WhitchaVen, in the Count?. of Camberlinitl, setting forth, that under, the Act of the Ist George IV., for the, more summary punishment of certain oft'ences, he had been eirinnioned before a Bench of Illagietmtes For a trespass, and sentenced by their( to pay aline of ono hitlfpenny. rue costs, , hoiievt.r, atnonnt. ed to 75., being times the amount of de'fin'e imposed.— 'rhe fiell on which the Petiticmer had trespassed was the pro. petty of the Earl of bonsdale, -and the Petitioner was only one of some hundreds who had passed through it. The Petitioner therefore prayed for the Repeal of the Act of the Ist of George the 'Fourth. The petition , was ordered to be printed. YEOMANRY CORPS. Mr, HUME presented a petition from Oliver Hayward, of Mtulford, near YeoVII, which set forth that the petitioner, nfler serving for fourteen years in the yeomanry corps, had been assessed to the hone-tits for the last year, became, two day* were wanting to complete the allotted period of service. The lion. Member said he had communicated with the Magistrates( of the County, through the Hon. Member for sotherset, and, from the it formation which he had received, was afraid though the case was a hard one, that what h a d b ee n done, was wi t hi n 1 the strict letter of the law. The petitioner then complained, that though Government provided for considerable allowances being made to the Yeomanry Corps, dating the fourteen years in whiett he had served, he had never received one farthing.— He therefore prayed that papers might be laid behire the Ho use showing the manner in which the money granted for such pur poses had been appropriated. Mr. DAWSON said, the allowance made to the yeomanry of 31. per annum was for clothing and equipments, and had never been given to individual members of the corps, • but to their commanders. If Properly . clothed and equipped, pence of such clothing and equipment had mostmivalikeeltyllebiteeesit; chiefly borne by his commander, and in that case the Petitioner had no reason to complain of the appropriation of th e G overn . mint allowances, Mr. HUME thought the accounts ought to be as to make the members of the yeomanry corps acqu a i nte d with , the limner in which the approptiation was made. - The Petition wax ordered to lie on the table. DRY ROT IN TUE NAVY. unthellereiforeMr. MIME presented a Petition front l.he p 3o ,etc h t n ion T er t re specting the Dry Rut in the Navy. The Petitioner stated, that up to 17112, till timber for the Navy . had , been felled in winter, attention had been so that it had time to dry before it was used . Since the testem and coat co ch a a t na tee , co tl t l i e nt d ry ry it m ni t n h erts i t in t s h i a t e n de v.:lllPeara"ce in thelavY called the attention of the House to this eircumetance,: and pressed upon them the importance of adopting different system. Mr. USEASSON • said, paid to this subject both by the Nov)! grad and the Admiralty. It was certainly true, that at ona period the dry rot had pre. veiled in the Navy to a considerable extent, but the Admiralty were of opinion that the itystern of building ,ships under cover had done more than any thing else to cheek the evil. With re. spec to t,that was stated in the Petition .of I '4 deviation from the former practice of felling thuber_ip winter,, he c ou ld say that the gre a test care was t a ken hi that ' respect, and th e t i m b er hefore was allowed to s t a nd one y ea r after t heti een harked it was 'felled, to givelhe sap time to e d ry out of it; that it might be properly seasoned. Mr. HUME had understood mat L exieriments had been Mr. lIUSKISSON 'said, It could not be eXpeered that eyery ne:dtletriWmetith:: l o l inuldd veprOithVeC°;llsucwulh.)caTuhaaut noto Zelulettlise. nt f ra t t y p r i nc ip a lly relied was , the buildingul shipie und e r 130., Mi. HUME., in the absence of hie on. Friendi the Mem ber for Winchelsea t nioved that the Petition presented on the 7th of JOY, reepecting Mr. Plunkett, should be printed; OOULIIURN remarked the Petition in question pre fermi a grave charge against an indiVidual, at a period of the Session' when it was iinpossible for it to be answered. It would, therefore, in his opinion, not lie just to print it, as it must stapd ;Over till next year. Ile was satisfied that when the proper time arrived, a satisfactory antwer would be supplied. He hoped he alight take this opportunity of saying a word on the Vetitiort Which bad been presented from a .alr: Win a fevr evenings back, who complained of having suffered great injastice from the conduct Of Judge 31 1 1 - len:intl. Ile (Mri Goulburn) had communicated with the Learned Judge on the etibject, and hot for the . circumstance of his being then on the circuit, and not 'teeing the minutes of the trial with him; a complete answer would hale been given to the charge. " Some of the facts, hoWever, he had contradicted. One complaint was, that the Judge had gene out of his ttelal Coarse to sit in the Criminal instead of the Civil Court; ,It however appeared, on referring to the Gentlemen of- the tar, that Judge Doty (the othsteircuit goi ng Judg e ), was ill at the time, and the Learned Judge, otlidord Mr. Quin had eon. plained, was in consequence obliged to sit In both Courti. It had been said that, in charging the Jury, the Learned Judge had declared that if an assault had bum cob - minted the plaintiff had no claim to redress, as he himself wa) at the time guilty of an illegal act in not taking off his hat while s Clod save the King' was being sung. The Learned Judge declared that tie bad never in charged the Jury, nor said any thing like it : but lie (Mr. Welborn) did not rest on his declaration, but he had the authority of the counsel 'on both sides, the counsel for the Petitioner, as well as for his opponent, Who concurred in de claring no such charge to have been made by the Judge. Ile would now tell what the Judge had really said in his charge. He had told the jury, that, " if they believed an assault to Wave been committed, they must find for the plaintiff: butt if they were of opinion that there had been no assault, their ver diet must be for the defendant." He would pat it to the House if it were possible for more inipartial language to be used. These facts be had thought it right to offer, as he thought the Session ought not to be allowed to close without giving some information on this subject. 1 Mr. HUME remarked with respeet to Mr. Quin, that he had declared himself ready to prove all the allegatiobs contain led in hit Petition. As to the other Petition, he should not urge the printing of it at present, tinder all the circumstances, and lie therefore begged to withdraw his motion. Dr. LUSHINGTON moved an Address to the Crown, praying for a copy of a Proclamation issued respecting the Mus quito shore in 1776.—Ordered. - RADICAL REFORM. _ _ Mr. 11011 HOUSE presented a Petition, sighed by upwdds of five thousand Freeholders and others, inhabitants of the County of Somerset, voted eta County.Aleethig in the city ' of Wells, in favour of a Radical Retina ih the House of Coni mons. This Petition had been put into his hands by his lion. Colleague, who, up to the last day, , had entertained a hope of being enabled to present it himself. He should hovever not enlarge on the subject at present, as the Hon. Baronet would be able to institute any proceedings on this Petition next Set 'aim, which he might think proper. Ile expressed his convic , . Lion; that however Parliamentary Reform might be delayed for a season, it *Dula ultlitately triumph. Every thing that had hectirred in the cotniiii of the present SesisiOn had strengthened this impression on his mind,' and he believed the time' td lie Forcing when that House would be glad td attend to Petltions like the present. Mr. S. RICE brought tip the ll,cPort of the torrithittee an the State of the Frier of Ireland.. : —...Ordered to be, printed. A 31esittge frotn the Lords announced their Lordships' eon,: eurrence with the Unlawful Oaths Bill, the East India Trade Bill, the liiineritk 'Filiation Bill (with amendirients), and other Bills. The Lords' amendments to the Lfirierielt Taxation Billi arid the East India Trade Bill, Were agreed to. Mr. Secretary CANN/ Ntli presented Nees of all Correa.: JAndirice wbielt had taken plc e...with Foreign Powers on the. • - itilkjeet of Ma StwEe 'Tea lie on the tehte. I Adjourned. SCOTLAND. CONVENTION OF ROVAG IWROUS. EiliYllololl, JuLir it.—The Committeo air. , pointe4, to inquire into the duties of the stitious Officers receiving salaries from the .Convention, iiade titeir report, which having been read; m r ..3IAcKENzIE, the. Merobei for Irvine; said, 116 con: sidered the' subject of so much hirportance, that he wished it had fallen into abler hands; but the report. had set it in so clear a light, that it required but 4 very short statement an his part: lie then. went over the substance of the report, and con chided by moving Resolutions for aboliihint the office or De . .. pate: Clerk and certain other offices, on the de4th or demission of the present bblders. _ _ . On 'the first? Resolution being read, which went to abolish the office of Depute G7erk, Mr..WALTZWCOOK moved., as an amencluto nt, that the office be continifed.; Mr. V•Vsr. beams said, that certain ininutiai appertained to every office, and it was not becoming that those should be per formed-by the principal clerks, fie thought, that the Conven tion would best consult the dignity and respectability of it esta blishment, by retaining the officers upon their ancient footing,. and, if he were allowed, by the Orders of that Hou*, he would move a previous question, that the report stand aver till the next. Convention of Royal Burghs. Mr. 3PlCE)trat rose to wave the necessity for any amend ment, by consenting that the question, on all the Resolutions; ,should remain for the Consideration of next Convention. Mr. Coot, in explanation, said, that his mind was so far made up on the subjeci, that he Was disposed to come to a de cision on one and all of the motions l rather than if shodld be circulated among the Roy a l ll uri ,4lo, as a Matter of doubt, whe-• ther the* offices were necessary or not. • Mr. JAMES S'rUAUT begged to remind Mr. Cook that the Report of 1811, which recommended that the office of Deputy Clerk be abolished, had never been acted upon. lie alto pro., rested against the doctrine of the lion. and Learned Member (Mr. Inglis)" dust, the dignity of this Convention •• would' at all be sUpported by its continuing to uphold, at the public ex. pence, offices which its Committee had reported to be useless.— (Hear, bear!) Mr. fVoitir said, the Lord' Provost of Glasgow, and the Members for the most respectable burghs, had declared yesterJ day that they were unable to give 6001. in aid of DUnifries, while th'ey expended annually 1001. on their officers for three days pilOreetlings. Mr. llrrett le thought one person adequate fa perform all the duties here, and that an agent in London Was also rte. cessary,. . The Lord Provost of Gl.asoow said, it did not a pp ear to him that the salaries of die principal office-bearers were too high.- After some furthe r remark', it was agreed that the. Report and Resolutions should be printed, and transmitted to the dif ferent burghs for consideration. The ,Comutittee on the Grant to St; Andrew's recommended that the remaining 11101. should be paid, which, after: some un important discussion, was agreed to. Mr. Ivo ur then broughtforward his motion relative to the stamping of linen. It had been objected to yesterday, that .111 embers could not decide aft such a motion mime day's notice,. but he could not perceive any difficulty .in the matter; there was to be sure a difference of opinion as to the expediency of the measure, but as the law of the Legislature enjoining the' staniping of linen wee nowiabragated, it should , be withdrawn front the annual missive, : and he moved that it be referred to the annual Corniriittee to revise the missive.--Agreed to Mr. NV.!ltiTctart, in proposing a motion-approving of the measure adopted by his Majesty's Ministers for the benefit et trade and for the reduction of taxes, said, that though not one of those who believed in th e ••proprlety of every thing done by • his•Maitstrietiovernment, but who was frequently led to find fault with them, yet when ha New the Government do their duty. 'he winild be the first to give them praise for it. , Ile WoOI 4 mention some of their measures, of which he atirrovoil " th ' were the Navigation Lows, Reciprocity of Dudes ‘-tlilltthe Teal of the Duties on Stone,- Vie Iniproyataant of the Criminal AW, and that relating to the Linen Trade. From thus it itp. neared that the eyes- of enlightened men 'hold litsw penettatill tie congratiaattli '; -.Si til l e cr co ill u n nt d ry a t n a ° t " iii p s f thMeejleirsltytilhluideltliedinet' sites In round Mr. Wei. Itc hit,tt had not Studied this subject sufficleatly' to qualify him to write on it, but he did not concur in the 1.1t0... pian theory of flee trade—it was impossible to proceed on th e principle of free trade. Mr. Robinson was no doubt an meet. lent financier, but there were. sotrte of hie,tneasures to which he (Mr. 1.) h adi decided objections. Ile approved of the me e t of the duty on stoned, and wished it extended also to Slates'; but as to the stamping of linen, if, as It was staid, it was mien -lated to hurt the email - mannfacturers, it WO decidedly wrong. But the Chancellor of the Exchequer had gene far wrong in re. gard to one material article, which was that of kelp ; anti it the Englishgentlenien had known its importance. they would, pot have permitted it. The Chancellor of the Eichequer had again imposed a duty on barilla, but he did . not thank hint fur it for what did he say on that subject Ile said he did not care'. if.the High/ands and 'shingle of d let:otittreil were t'.-- 11* 1.) said, he did not thank him for his spirit of 'free trade—he would say more, his policy wail extremely narrow. Without kelp or berme the soap anti ghee manufactures would be extinguished. If the production of kelp Were not encownsgrel, the London 'soap Makers would have a monopoly, and in the event of a war with Spain, no barilla could be procured from that quarter, and our soap and lags rnantifiteitiree would dun be completely destroyed. Ile therefore opposA tile motion. Mr. W. boon gave Mr. Ritchie credit for his Motion, se strongly expressiee of approbation of Minhiters ; and though generally approred of their measures, he would not 'cry out that any thing was right merely beeenseMitilsterg had done it. 'lie opinion on the principle of free trade was the-same as Ritchie's, and he thought It indicative of a wise and enligh. tend policy; bht he hail lately the Opportunity of coneersing- With some of the most respectable merchants in London, who thought these principles were eirried too fitri and hetleech tbeee contending opinitins he could not decide ; and conceiving it did not properly tome under the cognisance of the Convention, he wduld therefore move thepievious questiOn. The 1.06 Petovost of °law)* said, as the . queition volved a subject on which great difference of opin ion. prevailed, it had better lie over till next meeting of Mr. li , OKY said, it was a situation entirely new to him, that of enforcing on the House a Resolution approving of the measures of his Majelty's Ministers, and find himself opposed by' all those who generally appieved of their ineastires, al. though of far lead importance. He then showed from the acts of the Convention itself that the subject was one which conic properly under Its notite. If he looked to die policy adopted towards Spain—( Here Mr. Ivory was called to erdet, as he was not speaking to the question, but expressing an opinion on the foreign policy of Ministers.)-51r. Ivory said, he was not expresaing any opinion on foreign policy, but even if he had lie contended he would sti ll hate been in order: Ile was astonish- ed at Mr. Inglis opposing the motion, as the present Chancel; for of the Exchequer had in fact remedied the error with te gaid to the - barilla duty, Mite which the former Chancellor had been seduced. Mr. Itecititt • eiplained, and Undertook to go farther into the history Of the opposition to the barilla bill. He said the reluctance of the Minister to give way to them, was occasioned by his fear of losing the little popularity he had gliirietby his political econerriy.-4A - smile from Mr. Ritchie.)-.....11e pro. tested againet gentlemen ,laughing; he did,net see what they lid to laugh at. The Hoff. Member having'concluded his ex. planation, Mr. RITCIIIIZ tote to reply. He first disclaimed all inters. Jinn to laugh at any thing which had been said by the Hon. and Learned Member who had just spoken. Ile smiled diet Ministers should at last be charged with acting against their own tense of a right, from a desire to be popular. The Learned Oentleman had told them that they were not to put.; chase commodities where they could get them cheapest, but to obtain thent frown our own manufacturers. 'l'lint was its wait to erect a wall round the island, and to pit an end to that foreigo commerce which had 'rendered this country great end lilts, merely becausie we will call ourselves independent of Weta , ilirartviti alsigovi,.*i'..;' Ittglle, nod Iltr. Ritchie, se. venally explained, and it Cook's Anieinitnent wag carried by a large mouthy. The Neither fOr Dunbar then proposed an addeess to his Majesty Lon hie recent visit to Scotland, condescend rag mention of it in opening the S o:40n of PArlienient. 'The motion was agreed to, and the Annual Committee in. structed to forward an address accordingly. On the motion of' Mr. Coos, the House instructed the An nual Committee to inquire into the statutory regulations rela tive to the salmon fishing. After the routine business, the thanks of the Convention 'awe voted to the Lord Provost, on the motion of Mi. IVORY; and to the Itev. 1)i. Ritchie, on the motion of Mr. COOK.— The Convention was theddissolved. LAW INTELLIGENCE. VICE , CHANCELLOWS COURT,, JULY ie. Ili.V HONOUR net having yesterday finished ate seal, firq. ceded to hear *notional the whole of the clay. BLAWSUARU V. TUE EAST INDIA CUMPAWY. It will be recollected that this was a caw which respected• • the transmission of a number of hasears to India, and that a dis, pute hail arisen between the parties as to who should pay' the expenees of such transmission. Mi. Svubxit now applied to the Court to direct that the - East,lntlia CoMpany be ordered to pay within ten dayttop Mr. 11radshaw, the sum of 164/. Ite believed that this motion was assented to on the other side ; the object being to , pay* Mr. 11radshaw•thla small stun, in order that he might be put out ol die case. Mr. Roitie;' who appeared al Calmed for the other party, objected to the application. 3lr. BEL L, Gir the East India Company, observed, that his clienti had no interest 'in tho Ovation, 'as the w e re m a ke. holders only. The whole %w$ now in their flan& was BM. The MOUOII wail refaced. ixoct V. tilltV4loX. Mr. Br:Lair - toyed that the injunctlon in this case lhould dittsolveti, unless cause were shewn against it. Mr, HEALI) chewed cause. The plaintiff was tenant for lif in an estate at Winchester, anti the defentlarit:vrae a Soli‘'itor at Durham. The latter was in possestion of a great variety of documents connected with the estates, and uPon being request. ea to give them up, hedechined to surrender them until hes bill of costs, to the amount of 53111. was paid in, full. It was ulti mately agreed between the parties that a band should be eie cuted by the plaintiff, in which the hatter subjected hitnielf to the payment of 1,09/i. the event of the defendant's bill. not being discharged: This, however, was considered' only as a collateral security, and the defendant was to be paid out of the funds of clip estate. An action, however, hail been brought upon the bond and it war to restrain the further proceed pig in this action that the present injunction had been' obtithle4l. The VicieXitaiccELLorec..--Ilecietise you , are it , surety only,' you. cannot compel the defendant to go against the prin. clpal. liEetri observed, that the estate war more than euiff; cient to pay the debts with which it was incumbereth The VicE.Cirancti.ton said, he would diasolie the ht. junction, the defendant mideataking to go before the Miister 'l o t :• rn e p i rro %t h , i . 6 an d d e Tri 3 t n itn d it a telb m is th i e nt es en ta ti t :ii offleisonlicretujgto'tise.it Yesterday the itgeottottn- triode his Iltport to the King in Council of the Casuist: Ogricirtli , under Pentorice °"enth , in Newgatet—Frrtieriels Jain it t illi.on Nreteil, ngo,l Thomas Connor, lit, Thews* Con l l o 7 , 17, Thatnas Fen. ga, John llenaerson, lts. (4 °ttrgC 1 /"ri b, lb, - Charier* Evans, Wells, MI Kitt? *wet, 18 ,Sur4h wood, 311, Hannah. t b, ft ) ?„'i t ,, t4l4) jag. iu tlirellln }unisex to gin AntOulat shays 4 " Ornin emOnli 4e, anti i 'how. Tibbs, Ift, f i n . w rg i s ry ; Jain Morn. lti, Ina Ito4ert Hos,' 'A, fur licnixeltrenkistg; and Slliziuel Mat* 17, fur tittering forget) tuint notsx,—wlien Join% Wellfseti, Kober' Ittte, gust *Arnim' ?ellivo, wert ordelo fits execution an Moodily uest. The other Gonrieti Wit vstkiitztl lti.s Usiesty's vitaitue,