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,e'w one-fourth of the strength u. note Na.vy ,importance in every situation. in all times, under ctimates, and all commander, was well kroawn ; but tt.e peculiar hardships under which they la boured had not been sufficieetly attended to. The. floe of these hardships was, that the highest sitna-• tiona in the. Corps were held, not by Marines, but by Nayld Officers. In staling this, he trusted that. he shoOld not be supposed so to mispresent the sen timents of the Marine Officers, as to imply that they considered the NavalOfficei s as not wholly deserving any rewards they nvght receive; but unquestionably it was a great hardship, that the most lucrative ap pointments in the Marines were ere in the possession of Or&erg of that corps. The nsxt grievance was, _that the Marine Officers did not receive emoluments equal to-those of Officers of the same rank in other services. There .were four great divisions of .the Royal Marine Corps—Plymouth, Ponsmouth,Wool wich, and Chatham. Each division was superin tended by aeenior Commandant, whose emoluments were not equal even to those of 'a Major-General. Promotion in the Marines was also so slow,. that a Subaltern was frequently seventeen or eighteen years in the service, before he obtained a company, and a Captain twenty years, before he became a Field Officer. The proportion also of Field Officers in the Marine Corps, as compared with Field Officers in the Line, or in the Artillery, was ery small. The Marines, consisting of 35,000 men, had only 45 Field Officers. The Ai ttl:ery, consisting of on ly 17,000 men, had about 80 Field Officers. The situation of the Marine Field Officers was also pe culiarly hard, and - of a non-descript nature ;as they were not employed_ in any efficient service. The situation of the senior Captains aleo deserved at tention. .Many of these brave men had served above thirty years. Seseral at the hsad of the list had aau illy served during the last three wars, and • yet entertained very little prospect of ever becom ing Field Officers. Let this statement ,be compared to the situation of Captains in the Artillery and in the-Line. , There was no Captain in the Artillery who had served longer than 17 ,years ; and in the whole line there were not twenty Captains of the same standing as theMatine Captains whom lie had mentioned.; several of whom had the mortification of seeing every day Admirals and Generals who . had not entered the NNy and Army at as early a period as that at which they had entered the Ma rine Service. There was . another very important circumstance, to which. he wished particularly to (Fred the atten+ion of the House, and that was, that by some late regulations the Officers of the Royal Marines were directly superseded in their ,rank, by having been prevented fronnaa participa tion in garrison duty. After the distinguished va lour and pod conduct which this Corps had for so many 'years exhibited, there was no point on which they naturally felt more sore than that which he had mentioned, and which could not be considered in any other light than a kind of degradation. Ad verting to tht: comparative promotion in the Navy and in tie Marines, he stated, that since the year 1809, see en or eight hundred officers had - been womoied in the one, and only about forty in the other ; the expence to the nation of the one being 50,0001. and of the other only 70001. a-year. -Did he say this by way of complaining that the Officers of the Navy were too liberally ree.arded By no means. No recompense could be too great ha- their 'services. All that he lam.-rated was, that equal at tention was not paid to another service, so univer sally acknowledged to be in the highest degree me ritdrious. No Marine Officer, however long in service, was ever put upon the Staff. No Marine Captain enjoyed the pay of his Company, an ad vantage to which ail Military Officers of his rank were entitled. The Captains who commanded the :Marine Artillery, the efficiency of which had been proved by their substitution afloat for the Royal Ar y, did not enjoy similar advantages to other Ar tillery Officers of his own rank. The Marine Ser jeants were far ,from enjoying the same advantages as the Serjeants of the Line and the Artillery. Nor was the situation of the private soldiers of the Royal Mteine Corps equal to that of the private soldiers of the line, the !alter of whom enjoyed premiums proportionate .to their length of service which were denied to the former. Alter dwelling at constdera ble length on other grievances to which the Royal Marine Corps was subjed, he stated that the objects most dear to the corps might be attained at an ex pense not exceeding 50001. a year ; aided by omit ting to fill up a number of the vacancies in the se cwid Lieutenancies. He particularly apologised to the House for having intruded so very long up •ts their attention, and declared that he felt . him , elt wholly unable to do justice to the alibied. He trused, however, that he had said enoutels to induce the Right Hon. Gentleman opeosite, and the House, ICOpAy that attention to it which it deserved. When, last year, he had trespassed upon the attention of the House on the sante subjed, the Right Hon. Gentlerrian said that it was under the ceusideration of the Admiralty. Nothing had since been pro posed. If however, he should hear that that con s•deration was likely to turn out favourably, he-would not persevere in his motion ; if not, he should feel it his duty to press :he House serioualy to consider the claims of a body of men so highly meritorious as those whose cause he had been endeavouriug to advocate. At present, he would content himself with moving that there-be laid before the House a copy of the Memorial of the Commandants, Field atficers, and Senior Captains of the Royal Marines to the Admiralty, relative to the situation of the Royal Marine Corps. Mr. YORKE allowed that the merits of the corps were t undosibo d. Buts - the only question for the House to consider was, whet her the grievances ain't planted of were such as to induce them to interpose ? If it could he distindly made ow that the.. Executive Government had not done its duty, then, nuked, there could be no doubt that Parliamentary interfe rence would be highly proper ; but he was persuad ed that die House would agree with him in the ne cessity of having a very grave case before them be fore they would consent to . any such interference. The. Hon. Gentleman had not even attempted to shows that the established rules and regulations re specting the Royal Marine Corps had been violated, or that their established emoluments and advantages had been set aside. The whole of his argument tended to alter that which had for many years ex isted. In proposing something new, the strongest MARRIED. On the sth of July last, in Bengal, at the houie of A. Ro buts, Esq. Thadgeree, Mordaunt Ricketts, Esq. of the Hon. Company's Civil Service, third son of the late Go vernor Ricketts, to Maria 'Elizabeth, daughter of C. It. Cronnnelin Esq. On Saturday the 25th of May last, E. P. Aledows ' Esq• of Charles -street, Be r k e l e y- square , t o Mi ss H arr i e t Maria Norie. On the 6th inst. at SLAndrew's, Holborn, B. A. Cros ley, Esq. of Lamb's Conduit-street, to Miss Heather, of Hatton-garden. On Monday last, at St. Mary-le-bonne Church, Edward Burgess, Esq. to Mary, daughter of Isaac Rutton, Esq. On the Loth inst. George Clabon; Esq. of Thrandiston, Suf to Maria, second daughter of the late Robert Tay lor. Esq. of Eye. On Tuesday last, at Craylord, Quarles Harris, Esq. to Miss Hardcastle. ; 1711e;;e" -- cLiy, Mr. William Reid, of Pcntonville, to Mary, eldest daughter of Mr. Edward Barnard, of Pater nostcr-row•` DIED On Saturday sOnnight, aged Sy, William Bailey, Ps i ]. of StOW)o!te-11 , 2115C, Deeping (formerly of Wickham (,range,' Lincolnshire), father.itt.law to the late Countess of Tra quaire, and the late Mrs. Su!yard, of Bury, On the 7th inst. on his journey from Bath, at the Caste Inn, Sheen-h:11, Mr, William w aide, late of the town , of Hertford, m the 34th year of his age On Friday last, at Quorndon; in the County of Leicester,t lohn Coombe Curnptun, the infant son of Henry Coombs Compton, Esq. of Manor House., in the County of Hants. The same day, at Waddon, Surrey, Mrs. Warington, aged 68. On . Saturday last, -from the etfeas of an accident, in being thrown out of a gig, in his 1411 i year, Wager, youngest son of the late J. P. Allix, ksq. at Swaffharn-ilouse, Cam bridgeshire, On Sunday afternoon, in Canterbury.placd, Lambeth, in her 29th year, 11 , 1iss Ann Jackson, after a long and paintut illness. The same evening, after a short illness, in the 39th year of his age, Mr. Thomas Kennett, ot fields. On Monday last, alter a few hours illness, ot an infl(am matory fever, Joseph Attersol, Esq. of Portland.placc. COAL. MARKET, FEE. 12 Ships at Maitet. Ships sold. 131 Newcastle . . r Sunderland . . r Scotch Coal . . Price. • 435. od. to Sys. 61. . 455. od. to —s. o,t. . 445. °cf. to —s. cd. HIGH WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE TO.MOR- ROW. Morning,.'2 . B min. after 3. Evening, : 13 min. after 3. LONDON : -Printed by THOMAS WOOD, of No. 35, Maiden-lane, Covent-garden; and Published by Wit LIAM ARM iC; E R SCRIPPS, South Molton-street, Gr,sveror•square, At thr SUN OFFICE, No, 112, Strabd, where Advertisements, Orders for the Paper, Letters for the editor, &c. (post-paid), MUSE be addressed. leCeSSlty WAS 1111pUSCU U. man to show ias expediency ; and in this point, he conceived th it the . 'Honourable Gentleman had entirely firded. The principal grievance of which the Honenrable Gentleman complaint-el on the part of the Officers of the Royal Marines was, that they were not allowed to perform garrison duty. Really this was a mili , ary detail Which the House could hardly be supposed willtngly to entertain.— However, he would make a few observations on the inconsistency of the Hon. Gentleman. The Hon. Gentleman stated, and stated truly, that the Marines formed an impottant part of the Naval Service.-- Was it natural, therefore, to suppose, that when on shore and in barracks, they should be allowed to per form garrison duty e ith the Line and with the Ar tillery, when they did not actually form a part of the garrison ? He admitted that in time of peace, should that time ever arrive, when so many Marines. would be on shore as to form part of the guard of the different garrisons, Marine Officers would par take int he garrison duty. But he could not see how 'they were degraded by not being allowed to do so under the present circumstances. The Hon. Gentleman complained that the Officers of the Royal_Marines did nOt enjoy the same emoluments and advamages as the Officers of the Line and of the,Arttllery ; and that promotion was not so rapid among them as among the latter. But hew again he must recal to the consideration of the House, that the Marines were not a part of the military, but a part, and - an essential part of the naval ser vice. But although a material part of the navy, the services of the Royal Marines were so diffe rent from those of any other corps, that except- Ling, in - point of gallantry, it was itnpossible to 'make . any comparison between them and any other curs. Of 30,000 Marines, 25,000 were actually set yin; on board a ship, for Ming pat t of the various - crews, and being under the command of Naval Officers. —No Marine Officer above' t he ,rank of Captaie was ever called upon to serve on board a ship.—When he be came a Field Officer, he passed into a kw.l of re tirement. He was placed in one of the diaisions, and his services were confined to the preservation of good order there. There was - this material distinc tion, too, between the Army and the Marines. No Marine Officer purchased his commission : rising by seniority, he was not compelled to invest any part of his fortune in the acquisition of rank. It was reasonable, therefore, that if one service were to possess greater advantages than the other, those ad vantages should be on the side of the army. It had been said the sorvici - s of the Artillery accorded in some reepeas to ith those of the Marines. Did those who made that assertion consider, that in pi o portion as an Artillery Officer rose in rink, his ser vices became more iniportant, and that when he ar rived at the rank of a Field. Officer, he wits more responsible than in any other steo . ol his ser vices ? Fro n the earliest periods, the high situa tions in the Marine Service had been fitted by offi cers, in the Navy, and for. this good reason, that the Marines, when at sea, always nerved under.Na • val Officers. Even if - a body of Marines h ippened to be sent on shore in a boat, a Naval Officer was appointed to command them. It was a diffetent affair when large bodies of Marines were assemb ed to ad on shore independently of shipping; for in stance, as in the late case of the battalion of Ma rines in Portugal, where they had done them selves, as they always did so much credit.— They indisputably then ought to be commanded by their own Officers. Th e situation of the Royal Marines was taken under the consideration of the Board'of Admiralty in 1809, and in consequence an Order of Council was issued, by which great. additions were made to the advantages of the taficers of that corps. And he was persu ,d -ed, notwithstanding what was said by the Ho nourable Gentleman, that although a few individuals might still be dissatisfied (and where was there a service in which there were nut dissatisfied in dividuals ?) the 'corps in general wa,, cemented with what had.been done' for them. He then proceed ed into a comparison of the pay of the Command ants with that of the Majors General on the Sea, contending, that the former had considerably the ad. vantage. The Right Hon. Gentletnan then proceed ed to shew that the difference between the Offices of the Marines and the Artillery Officers was not what the Honourable Gentleman supposed it to be, as it was much less disadvantageous to the former. He admitted promotion to be more rapidly gained in the Artillery than in the Marines; but this he ex plained to be, in consequence of the greater risk at tached to the former service. He then noticed the circumstances of Captains and Lieutenants in the Marines, as compared with those in the-Navy, ant replied to what had fal:erefrom the Hon. Gentleman on that subject. Whatever might be the advan tages enjoyed by Lieutenants in the Navy, he con tended, the present situation of a Lieutenant,of the Marines was more advantageous. Greenwich Hos pital had been spoken of, as if the Marines contri buted to its support, without derisieg any benefit whatever front that institution; but the fact was, they derived the same advantage from it as the sea men themselves enjoyed. It was true there were certain offices which they were not entitled to hold; but with respect to pensions, allowance, &e. Offi cers in the Marines were placed precisely on the same footing with the Officers of the Navy. As to what had been said of the Marines but being allow ed the benefit of two years service in the East or West Indies, in common with other forces sent to these,parts of the world, he had to observe in reply, that the Marines never served in the E ,st or West Indies, but on board their ships. This being the stale of -the case, he would ask, could they in Justice be placed on the same footing with those who were obliged to serve on shore, and who were so much more exposed to the dangers of the Climate? Every one at all infirrmed on this sniijed knew that the service on board the ships in the East and West Indies was absolutely healthy, compared with the service on shore. Having now gone through nearly the whole of the Hon. Glitlethan's statements, he would leave it for the House to consider whether or not any thing had been proved to exist that called for their interference. Mr. E. BULLER had been in the service not less than five and twenty years, yet was quite'surprised at the complaints he had heard. He had never known that there was the slightest cause for com plaint. th e mo ti on would appear like, shutting the door, against inquiry. Mr. YORKE did not wish the door shut against inquiry, but he thought nothing had been probed to ex►st that called for the interference or that House. _ _ Mr. RoBINsor; observed, the prejudices of the Boaid had been said to oppose the carrying of the good intentions of others_into effea. Than this, he contended a more unfounded charge Wel never been made. Mr. HUTCHINSON replied at some length, and assured the Right Hon:-Gentleman be 'would find himself mistaken in a short time, in what he had advanced on the subject before the House. It was -in their power to better the situation of the Marine, Corps ; their in,tererence was looked for, and it ought to be given. He was certain that he was Correct in stating it to be the feeling of the Marine Corps itself, that it bad no: rank in the service to which it was entitled as a military body. It was not his intention, however, to di vide the House. M. YORKE explained. The question was then put, and neptived with out a division. • Mr. HUTCHINSON then moved for. a copy of a letter to 01, Right Hon. Charles Ywke from Co lonels Desbrow and Tench. Mr. Yott Ku was , in hopes the Honourable 'Gen tleman would withdraw this motion, as it was mere ly a private letter called for. Mr. HITTCHINsoN consented not to press the sub j,tt.t, and the motion w:is withdrawn. TRANSPORTATION TO NEW SOUTH WALES. Sir S. RUMILLY wished for information on the subjea of the effetts of Ti insi,ortation to Botany Bay. To this end it was necessary to know what that punihment was. It was proper that the House should be informed whether" or not any difference was made in the treatment of the convias trans potted, and, if any, what that difference was. Many . persons" had been transported for very slight offences, and therefore it was very neteS4aly for them to know what the punishment was, and what had been tts etleels. He meant not the least reflection those by whom"the law had been adMini,tered:— He thought the couAtry much obliged to those who took upon thernselves to at as Justices of the , Peace, without receiving any emolument, and in this re wed thought England fortunate above every other country. On these he did not mean the slightest reflection, but in same instances he 'could state a young-offender for a slight offence had been trans ported (and in mercy transporter) to New South Wales. It -might be, however, that these Magis trates had formed an erroneous idea of the punish ment they inflicted, as no authentic information on the subje& bad been published within the last twenty-five years, though cfinvies bad only been sent to Botany Bay by way of an experiment. The punishment,"at present, inflicted under the name of .'transportation, was as different frOm what trans portation formerly was, when convi'ts were sent .to America, as any two things could well be. There Vas no resemblance between the two modes of pu nishment, but that bOth banished the conviB for a certain period. He concluded, by moving f)r " the appointment of a Committee to inquire into the manner in which .sentences of transportatio i n had, been "executed, and into the effeas produced, by this mode 'of punishment." Mr. KENRICK, far from wishing to oppose, would give it his cordial support. He should, however, be sorry to let it , go forth to the woild that young per sons, for stealing trifling articles, had been transport ed to Botany Bay. It was only 'when the offence had been repeated, and- other punishments had fail ed, that the punishment of transportation had been resorted to. Sir S. RoMILLY could mention instances in which young 'persons had been transported for very slight offences, where such a sentence was passed in kind ness to the party. The magistrates aaing only on the information already before the HouSe might have formed a wrong idea Of the nature, and pro bable effect of the punishment. All he desired was, that such information might be given as would en able them to judge of what it really was. Mr. LOCKHART wished the Committee to be,in strotted to consider A'hat was the etfed of transpor tation for a limited time, and what the etied of trans , poi-lotion for lite. Mr. ABERCROMBY thought this instruaion un necessary, as the whole subject was to be referred to the ComMittee. The question was then put and carried, and a Committee appointed, three to be a quorum. Sir S. ROMILLY gave notice of a motion fur to morrow, which was understood to be for the revival .of the Committee on Parish Apprentices. Adjourned. L E:\"1 A .5 S I Z ES. OXFORD CIRCUIT. Sir S. LAWRENCE will Sir G. WooD, Knts. Berkshire—Nlonday, Ma!%ll 2; at Reariiiig. Oxiordxliire—Wcdn:.srlay, 4, at Oxford. Worersiershire—Saturday, 7, at Worcester. City of Worcester—Same day, at Worcester. Staffordshire—Thursday, 12, at Stafford, Sliropsliiie—Triesd.y, 17 at Shrels! - tury. Herefordshire---Saturday, 21, at Hi reford. Monmouthshire—'Thursday, 26, at Mbilmouth Gloucestershire--Saturday, 28, at Gloucester. City of Gloucester--Same day, at Gloucester. NORTHERN CIItCUIT. Hon. Mr. Justice IHOMPSON and lion. Sir SIMON LE BLANC. City of York—Satdrdq, March 7, at Guildhall. Yorkshire—Same day, at York Castle. Lancashire—Saturday, 21, at Lancaster. WESTERN CIRCUIT. Sir ALAN CHAMBRE, and Sir 11. GRAHAM, tints. Southampton—Monday, March 2, at Winchester, Wilts—Saturday. 7, at New Sarum. Dorset—Wednesday, t i, at Dorchester. Devon—Monday, 16, at Exeter. City of Exeter—Same day, at Exeter. Cornwall—Monday, 23, at Launceston. Somerset—Saturday, at Taunton. C cane Fe, who wish by rapid steps to thrive, A way at once to lucky CA R r E t( drive. R ice await ills nod, so Fate declares, T housan4 rejoice, who bought of him their Shares, E future no more misfortune's ga;ling weight, R un then to Charing-cross ; the Number's 3. (p -- Lottery Draws next Tuesday. OXFORD, FEB. 9. The Rev - . James Blackstone, D. C. L. Principal of New Inn-Eaft, has relinquished his situation of Assessor of the Vice-Chancellor, in the University Court : he is succeeded by Dr. Macbride. The Rev., R: Smith, of nigd.den has been admitted Co the. degreeof Mastet of Ares ; Mr. Gyn, of ChrOchtrch, to, that of A. B. ; and Mr. S. Ne. vile, A. B. JAN. 8.--The Rev. J. B. Frowd, and , the R-e V.. M. Arnold, Masters of Arts, have been adrnitted Fellows of Corpus Christi - College. Mr.-G. M sin has been admitted Fellow, and Mr. R. Allen Scholar, of New College. From Ike LONDOIv 41 , ./IZET7 E, Feb. lt, 1812. D I b ENI)S March 9. L. Kendrick and M. Barlow, Warrington, Lat. cashire, milliners, at one, at the Eagle and Child Warrington. March 6. W. Beaven and T. Jones, Bradford, Wiltshire, clothiers, at twelve, at the Swa❑ inn, Bradford. March s.. T. Pal iner, Bristol, w.,iking gold and silver. smith, at eleven, at the Rummer Nb el, All Saints'.lane, Bristol. March 7. T. Rushy, Skinner street, London, mangle-maker, at ten, at CutWWII. March;. I'. C;regory, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, dry-salter, at eleven, at the Queen's !lead Inn, Newcastle-upon- Tyne. March 4. T. Hadfield and W. Hadfield, Wakefield, York.. shire, dealers, at twelve, at the New Cuurt House, Wake field. March ;S. "I. Polglase, Bristol, merchant, at twelve, at the Bull' Tavern, Bristol. March Lt. . Lewis, Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, cabi. net-maker, at twelve, at the Rummer Tavern, All Saints*. lane, LiriStol. March lz. P. Napper, Bristol, haberdasher, at twelve, at the Commercial Rooms, Bristol. April IS. S. Gosling, 1. Gosling, and A. Gosling, Mark. lane, London, wine -merchants, at eleven, at Guildhall. March 3. 11. Polsford, Berkley street, Middlesex, wine. merchant, at one, at Guildhall,London. - Feb. 2X. T. Hockly, MincinA.lane, London, merchant, at eleven, at Guildhall. - March 3. I. Fento❑ and G. Moore, Rotherbithe-street, Rotl►erhitlie, SUrrey, smiths, at one, at Guildhall. March 3. J. Thomas, St. james's-,plaLe, St. James's, tai. lor, at twelve, at Guilitl:alt. March 3. R.. Reddish, St. James's-street, Middlesex, wine. merchant, at twelve, at Guildhall, London. Feb. 18. E. Duke and F. Duke, Illthain, Kent, linen.dra- pers, at ten, at Guildhall, London. March 6. I. Sanders, Hinckley, Leicester, corn.dealer, at the ‘Vuolpack, Warwick. March 3. W. Jackson, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, oilman, at eleven, at•the Queen's-head Inn, Newcastle-upon-Tyne. March 3. I. Wensley, Worcester, grocer, at eleven, at the Rummer Tavern, All-Saints-lane, IVoicester. March 3. I. Dawes, W. Noble, R. 11. Croft, and R. Bar. wick, Pall-Mall, Middlesex, bankers, at ten, at Guild hall, Londor.. Feb. 21. I. Routh, T. Le Mesurier, and 11. L. Routh, AuS tin Friars, London, merchants, at eleven, at Guildhall, London. Feb. 15. N. Lucas and C. Berke, Pancras.lane, London, merchants, at eleven, at Guildhall. _ . March 3. E. Crean, Margaret street, Caren ish.square, Middlesex, carpenter, at one, at Guildhall, London. March 14 . S. Wall, Salisbury, Wilts, linen-drap►tr, at eleven, at Guildhall, London. CERTIFICAI ES, MA cli 3 A. Stark, Buckingliam.street, AliClesex, tailor. 13. Newport, Gill-street, Lime- house, Al ddlescx, carpenter. 5. Griffiths, Old Boswell •court, Carey.st►eet, Middlesex, tailor. I. Page, Swaffham, Norfolk, beer.brewer. J. Stead, loster.lane, Clieaps;de, London, warehouseman. W. Soady, Plymouth Duck, Devon, tallow.chandkr. Numerous Letters daily arrive in town to the Lot.. tery,Offices, complaining of a want of the. usual remittance to the country of Tickets, and , Shares in the Scheme .which stands so near at issue as Xuus- DAY NexT. The cause obviously is—that a Lottery of only 8000 'Tickets, yet so interesting as to con tam Prizes of 20,0001. with other. important Capi tals, will scarcely be sufficient to supply the Metro. polls, and consequently not to admit of, the accusto mary remittances so provincial Agents. BIRTH. On Sunday last, the Lady of Edward Poore, Esq. of Rushall, in the County of Wilts, of a Daughter.