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Licobin Dialemary which he imagiricil had gone into disuse. That Noble Lord, he said, tool been eastriered. How such a term could ho :tpviied to, the cheege situation to which that Noble Litt! hail 'succeeded, be was et a loss, to An arrangement had no doelei taken piece in His Mejesty'S Govert. Meta, at.d that airangement was treide with the tree will arid entire concurrence, oi that Noble. Lord, and it eves never proposed with any other inten tion. How, then, c,uld the Noble Lord *be said to have hero cashiered ?----So far from his heving ever h Itheur , ti any thing like sentiments of diste spea for that Noble Lord, he had never, even when he disagreed with _him oat certaio eneesures, felt the least diminution of friendship and regard for that Noble Lerd ; and far from any a batement o f at . tacliment to him having taken place, it had since been rather increased by subsequent proofs of that chareeter for which be so seriously esteemed i him. To the other nsionatione of a similar ten. den t y which had dropped from the Hon. Gentle. man, as they were wholly without any fooothoion, he should make no reply : but thus much he thought it necessary to observe in vindication of their cha. ratters and of laiS own. • But the 1-lon, Gentleman seemed to rely much on his appeal to the Country Gentlemen; on them he confidently called as under it kind of obligation to vote against the Bit!; but the motives horn 'which he supposed that obligation to spring, the narrow, motives of pecuniary considera. liens, he should never believe they could for a trio_ • meat be aluated. He was not now to be taught what opinion he should entertain of that most re. aeseetable elais of the community They were still distinguished, in Isis opinion, by the same sternness of chareder, by the same ardour for the honour of their Country, by the some zeal for -the Public Ser. vice, for which they had always been so conspicuous, and confident he was that they would never at on the narrow and selfish principles which the Hon. Gentleman thought them capable of being warped by. they' were always serious, and earnest in coming forward to expnse their lives and fortunes, in the just and necessary contest in which their Court. 'try was engaged, and when the Constitution and Li. betty of the Country were endangered. Such men could therefore never be gloated by mere pecuniary motives, or by paltry parochial considerations.— While they no doubt would consult the comfOrt,and convenience of the lower classes, their minds would also ascend to the times and circum stances in which they were, or might be placed, and they undoubtedly now would feel the necessity of impressing a more military charaaer upon the people, and they would as cheerfully con. cur in providing fur what *that necessity imposed. They would not look upon the present measure in the light of a pecuniary burthen, but as a part of that system which was to contribute to that salu tary end. ,Whenever the measure would be found to operate 33 a pecuniary burthen, he then would him self be the fiat to disclaim it,,- and to' propose its vepeal. But he was persuaded it would have no such effeee ; hut, on the contrary, as the number raieed by it would annually increase, the pence attending it would not fall on the pa. tithes, or individuals, but would be paid out of the Public Fund. Such were his views and hopes of its prospeltive effens. Much had been said Aleut giving up the foes. This hut not been prAposed respecting the Army of Reserve, Where the fines had amounted to nearly double. `Would you then exempt those from the penalties who kid ileac much less ?.—Surely such a conduct would rot only be unjust, but impolitic also. The same objc6tititi urged against the Army of Re. t , ettie, Theft ‘4 , 46 sro mare of a pecuniary fine in tite present meatute than In that, anti if it appeared to have that tendency, he should, as he had already uleetry be himself the net to propose its repeal. • Entetteitting, however, a very different opinion of i ts operation, he must now recommend a rem vereoce ie the measure. Mr. rP/A/WlAMbegan by noticing the observa. ti. 411 mile by Mr. PITT, of ,a difference of opinion 1 ) ,, l o g prevailed on that side of the }louse upon the tiubicet of our Military Sy :cm ; and he said, that if .any . ,,verplexity existed nn that account between him. iielf and his .d-lon. Friend (Mr. Sit 1: ittonti), the ,fright ilon. Gentleman (Mr. Pt TT) could, from his experience, instrud them to get out of the dif tiouity. But, surely, there was nothing,,new in the :.ticurn-itance. of Gentlemen differing on some path. 4tdar point, who agreed on great an d genera l clues. k ' 1 06; Such a thing had always been avowed, and ekoowledged. The difference of opinion which ek i:ted bet wren him and his Honourable Friend on the sullid of Volunteers had nothing to do with the print question then before the House. But, while the Right lionourable Gentleman was attack» ing a pratitce of this kind, he was also attacking ; fur there was not one of those points on Which he now eiffered in *pinion with the Right flunourable Gentleman upon which he had not dif. feted from him at the Very time he aaed with him as one of the Ad:niniltration. But their differences did not then stand in the way of , their union. The hi g b ( H, Tho ur a hie Gentleman alluded to an union of paifts last year, previous to the removal at the late Adininktratiort. But the difference between hirband .... . tlrr P.,!ght Itmourabie Gentleman was, that one or them A ttheted to that onion, and the other broke t h r „ c1:; 1 1 it. ' ' Whatever opinions he might have en. t when lie was in Akiminiiitration, or at dny direr time, he did not consider himself bound for ever n abide hy tlrr,rry. •The Right lic.)onorahl e G en . ,h ewe d, by Iris present coodutft, thlt he did n o t adhere to his lnrmer opinions. .lle had •itt one time 641 d, that •lk !night 1. increaried to y 0 0 ,0.4 ii ,e n . Now he thought it Might be re. kind the 3ystt!il Ot liatlot ;night h a d lneaway . f a r (Iwo woillti tie induced to ezercioe the power vt-ild in thew ty rarinit ally, tvwyelt Meta trim) eu.pc., ;,,ifid, (rider to chew .what little chaiice th e is , f „ n m n Ildtl lif beisg',proteaed in hicright a , 1 1 , n eu4 o nly rtivr co a recen(itveur which fortnA4l a c'tst (-- , (' - th 4 prattler new prevalent. in thisinetroplis, ti c 4 „,sivrstoLil that aevetal luov.peoph:, ,utter t > this Country, who earnea an honest 1. 1. ) ; , L'ieir 14b.ur, had heel in the habit, ea the wrck wheri:they could enjoy them , t.ives • • - Mr. FOX said, he should avoid most of the topics that had been adverted to by others. He could not see how the •present Administration had been haraseed by litigious and vexatious opposition, as stated by the HOnourable Gentleman who spoke last. To have opposed the measure, before it had been tried, would certainly •have deserved these epithets ; but lie did not think that an opposi. tion to it, after it had been proved, and found inefficient, metited that reproach. If a Tax were proposed and estimated at two millions; and if it only produced one hundred thousand, surely it would not shew a litigious disposition to find fault with it. It had been stated, that he (Mr. Fox) had gone out of the House upon a former occasion (Mr. Winniamst's lite Motion) in a very ill humour. He was not conscious that the observation was well founded ; but he recollected pettedly well, that upon his return, he certainly had not so much reason to be satisfied as upon a similar occasion last year, when he had more then ,zoo Members of the House along with him. It had been urged upon a former occasion (Mr. WINDHAM'S Motion), as an argument against going into a Commit tee, that though the state of the Army was not improved, that of the Navy had in. creased in strength ; but, for his part, he could not see any great increase in the latter. The present Ad proposed to raise I &coo men by Odober last, in the first instance, and goad more subsequent to that time. - Having promised to raise tB,oao men, cer. tainly, if we consider the danger that threatened the Country, they ought to have been forthcoming with. in the stated time, and the rest might have followed of courie. So Tar, however, from that being the Case, it appeared that only t 581 men were raised in fifteen weeks in England, Ireland, anti Scotland ; and of these Y 01, only 640 were raised between the s sth of September and 6th of November but sup posing,' for the sake of argument, that these 1581 were all raised in England within fifteen weeks, that would not be a justification of the Bill ; for the question was not about too or zoo men a week; it would require Bgo into a.weele • to make good the undertaking. The result, 'therefore, was nothing less than an absolute failure on 'the part of the Mi nisters ; and yet he was to be told that an attempt to repeal a measure thus defedive was a litigious and vexatious opposition. An Honciurable Gentle. man, formerly a Member of that House (Discount StostouTri),' but now a Noble Lord at she head of-His Majesty's • Pr ivy Council, had, rm- the bring ing in of this Bill, advised that it should be. post., ported until the ensuing Session, and to ascertain the sense of the Country respeding it, in theinterval.— Ile confessed, he had not approved of , that advice, as the Bill promised' immediate benefit and assist: anee. It was somewhat strange, however, that now, when it had been tried and found inefficient, the very same Gentlemen should say it ought not to be repealed. ' It had unquestionably failed as tu, men ; • and it had not proved more productive as to money ; for assuredly it never could have beenahe intention 'of Goverment to Make it 'operate as a tall. The fine'could have only been laid on 'for the pur. pose bf frightening the Parish Otfieers to raise the men reqUired ; for certainly it .could never have been in centemplatiore to levy so unjusf or in )16r one .instance to enforce this monstrous system of 'Oppression. It had been also urged in answer to the objedtion of no increase in the Attnrhythe present 13111, that if the infantry,'enerally . considered, were slot increased,. yet that , a larger.. portion of it had become That, he allowed, was of some ssrvice; but when it was urged 'as a "matter of triut4h. to the present Ministry, he did not think sods miehty consequence, 'nor did he even con. 1144Dajo, ja,N. 2 4.--Titc diqemper has now tilt. ait i leated every where ; tut the places which were iortaell are still dangerous to strangers and thi hedaiiants who returrl. 'The great attention or Go. vornrntnf, bani!.h.s ' al' f . 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Cl' 1 0 ' Pliifeli ter the tuxes to br tak.c4l of mr , ,I Box-Ottice. in Hart-street- • 4010,0104 • . Half Price at the End of the" itoLirot-r - Such of th:: Nooitity and Gentry as „d o n, ''' .cces;•are rtquisted to anply to Mr. Uri" artittsernent—an aamemerke whiA was eritleared to then by all the former habits of their lives, by the recidicftion a their kindred, their ftiends, and the plsces.of their birth. These poor people, dArig injury to none, And not committing any ,!Cis of in. temperance, could not escap't tht bu'iy meddling, and vexatious interference„oftnagiverial authority. 'The'y were assailed by a hand of Police Officers, dragged from the houses whete they were amusing themselves, thrown into prisons, and some of them actually sent away to serve on board ships of war. General Noßrotg said, he wished the Bill to be adhered to. _ _ Mr. L ANCHAM said, he would Note for the repeal et the Bill ; but in doing so, he should not pledge himself to vote against the Administra. don. Colonel STEW/ APT spoke in favonr of the Bill, until an entire new Plan should be introduced for improving the Arnsy., Mr..WIJITBRE'AD expressed his surprise that none of the Ministers except one,. had defended this Bill: and that Right .1-lun. Gentleman now ahan. dotted all those enthusiastic notions which be had held out at the time he introduced the Measure; and confined hiinself to a .dry detail, which was entirely fallacious ; and he thus gave up the very at-gument. on which all the virtue and efficacy of the Measure had rested. Mr. BRAGGE BATHURST oppoSed the Mo. tiun for repealing the Ad, which he thought had not been sufficiently tried. Although it was ohjedionable when first introduced, still As it had received the sanction of Parliament, it ought nor now to be has. tily done away. The repeal tsf this Bill was but a trifling objed with the Hon. Gentleman who brought forward the Motion, compared to his , prin. cipal ohjed—that of removing the present stration. For his own part, he would not; join in any vexatious opposition ; and among the Gen. clemen of Opposition he must say, there appealed to be very little harmony. Lord ARCHIBALD HAMILTON anti Mr. FUL TAR supported Mr. SFR. R I DAN 'S Motion. Mr. TIERNEY said, that from the resped and regard he bore the late Administration, of which he formed a part, he would vote for the Repeal of this Bill, which was very different from any of the military measures of that Administration, which bad never broken in upon the good temper of the Country, nor adopted any measure bordering on oppression. This measure was both oppressive and unjust. What could be more so than to Mid penalties on seme . men for not being able to prevail on other men to turn soldiers Mr. BR i t .QG 1 BATHURST explained. Mr. SIIIIRIDAN last night brought forward his Motion for the Repeal of the Additional Force Ad passed in the last Session of Parliament.—ln sup. port of his Motion the Honourable Gentleman played all that wit and humour with which he has so often entertained the House of Commons, and he seemed determined that his Speech, if it were not more convincing, should at least be as entertaining as that of Mr. WINDHAM on a former night. The chief serious argument which was urged against the Ad was, that it had not succeeded to the extent that was expeded ; that the number of Men raised under it fell short of the Estimate ; and that therefore the Aft ought to be repealed. This appears to us a very inconclusive and very unstatestnan.like mode of rea. toning. It never was asserted by Mr. PITT ; it never was contended by any of the Supporters of the Ad, that it was retied ; it is impossible to pro. .duce any great and comprehensive measure like the present which will not be liable to many objec. tions, and produdive of many inconveniences ; but the only fair way of deciding upon such a measure, is to ascertain, whether the advantages which it produces are more than sufficient to counterbalance the inconvenience with which it is attended : if they are,i t ought to be aduptcd,unless some plan can be sug. gested less liable to objedion, and more likely to attain the objet in view. The present Aft, if it has not hitherto produced all the good that was ex. peCted from it, yet has succeeded in a very great degree ; it has very much facilitated the Recruiting Service, and the . number of Men raised under it is very considerable. The prosperous situation o f t hi s Country, and the wealth of its Inha. bitants, render the Recruiting Service infinite. ly more difficult here than it is on the Continent, and in addition to the natural difficulties of that Service, we have reason to Jaelieve, that in many instances the greatest pains have . been taken to thwart the operations of this Ad. The preju. dices, however, which were industriously excited against it have nearly subsided ; the impediments Which were thrown in its way are in a great degree surmounted, and we have no doubt that when it has had a fair trial, it will be food the most effiaient and beneficial plan that in the present situation of the Country could have been adopted. Mr. PITT, in reply to Mr. SHeatomr, stated, that the Aft was not expeded to have a rapid effed in the outset,. but the exile rience of its operation during the last three months, and part i cu larly during- t h e l ast s i x wieks, proved that it was calculated to double the efred of the ordinary Recruiting Power of the Court. try, and to add ;o,oco annually to our Regular Military Force. This Statement was 'fully proved by the Documents on the Table, and had its full effea in inducing the House to rejeft the Motion by l arge thajOrity. Tun morning arrived three Gut/it uri4 /If a q i with Hantlarek Papa.: to 16th 611. The f o ll ow . ink are the Must important Aitiel es o f I ntelligence which they contain : sider it as the produce of the present Bill. He cer. tainly had wished for tie return of the Right Hon. Gentleman IMr. PITT) to office, in preference to those who preceded him.- But as himself and his friends had assisted the Rt. Hon. Gentleman's return t o place, he thought they had some right to call upon hius for some more vigorous measures than those which he had hitherto adopted. We might boast of the vigorous Minister, whom we had re. commended to His Majesty, contrasted with the weak and imbecile Minister who.preceded him ; but he did not think that even partiality itself : could say that this. measure was the offspring. of a great and vigorous mind. LordCAsm REA pa made a very able reply to Mr. Fok. Mr. JOHNSTONE attempted to answer the argu. ments of Lord QASTLE E EACH —but a call for the question fror►n every part of the House, accompanied with a violent coughing, obliged him to sit down. Lord CASTLEREAGH and Mr. JoHNstoNE severally explained. * Mr. SHJUUDAN made an able reply, and the House having divided, there appeared for Mr. SHERIDAN'S Motion, Ayes I'27—Noes-267—Majority against it x 40. Adjourned this Morning at Half past 'Dace o'Clock. MAILS. Altaic,' to 'Waterford, x Gottenburgh. Du *—to Nate. burgh, 4 Gottenburgh, z Lisbon, t Waterford. THE SUN. SoI.ZU QOIB SIiCZRZ FALIUM ADDILAT L NDO N, THURSDAY, MARCH 7, 1805. Cordons that have been formed will, it is laidtsills he continued. h CADIZ, JAN. I 3.—The Cartejs lift ranter, tu b . ii , ohed here, contains the following article Tho Intendant of the Havannah has transmuted to the Consulate at Cadiz the following LOA dated 061ober 16, r 804.. " The Negroes at St. Domingo have so Gan' bolts, a h t ethey a G v l e s tt a ; and a Brigantine of 14. gate." have to the distance of filte gone out to t 1 tw ° onty l°llte: and perpetrate the most savage atrocities ogalcs t our Shipping. The Merchant Ship La 8010 whs h left St. Andero on the 13th of June, has been ilk ° by the Negroes, and all the Crew and Passenger' obliged to leap overboard.' Three Ot four ofi „ , rr Ships, whose names, and places from which they came, are not known, have suffered the ono fate'': You will inform the Spanish Merchants of this, IbIL their Ships may sail with more caution, and k ali "? off as much as possible from St. Domingo, or under Colours which are respetted by the Neg f°6l " Published by Order of the Consulates". " Caliz, 7mn. is, z2oS." 00 ° AlttiTE R DAN, Faa. to received ffoa Paris an AustrianCourjer hat 01 1 o r; from mte His Rom a n with aLe tt a e o r d to A o t s h t e tis E o m fo o lp ro e r tia l 4A l,4 l : .r written with His Majesty's usvn hand, on t - , 0. jen of the acknowledgment of the Kingd om of f hardy. In this Letter, one of our Jo urnal ' 91 i ' the Emperor NAPOLEON is styled by F aAsG" // Mon cbrr Fare—if My dear Brother." gel , English GOTTSNBtIRGIt, FEB. .—...The hei6 l senger, BASSETT, arrived at Stockholm On t inst. after having landed in Norway. No furi ff i, accounts have been received of the Cbifora t gate, or of His Excellency M. Novosrag cl lvi le s il l CUEII AV IN, FIR, z2--The Seven Englis h olio brought by Capt. BRIDGE, arrived at H ol e . 4 co r the 9th inst. To.dav, at noon, two Po'a n i, P. had sailed from England with Capt. Bo p s' rived here in a Heligoland Boat. Yesterday the KING dined With the P,„ 1 , 1 of WAL ES at Blackheath. About four o'c ww. MIA j I:STY set off for the Queen's flouse. f • h Letters from the Coast inform or l i d is O , IB A firing was on Tuesday morning l'e a t . l- : ,.h .. .t0ur direction of Boulogne, the cause of win— t o not then be oscertained , in the aftern°°"!o'ooll ever, one of our Frigates was seen stild in g A l 00° D.) , .9 GI, with sk..Brig in tow, which Wilt rnf be one of the Enemy's Gun.vcssels. 1 e llll Po . Trusty RrnioUTH, MARCH 6.--5 3 ' 161 11 %0 ° Sloop of War far Plymouth, and is to pros. thence fur Cork. , (bil l/ _ MAL. MARCH 6.-- Sailed 1411 Majostl fo ol Boulogne ; Norfolk, triter, and Gallant Gun-bri s for Omit 0" and Narcissus for Dungeness; Gra#lloo 0 , si the Cost of France, g CO °. Arrived the Archer Gun.brigfroM * /4 1 0 ; h S Armed D f e ence Ships from PurtstoPut-s f h mains. 0 1 Arrived the Brig Little Ben, from 56 ' ' ill l Lord Nelvilfr, and `1"r oi l I' and sailed for the Riser. Sailed 1, 1 1 River. the Caroline, Spanish PriZso fjr 1 ail 00 4 0 SHISINCH, MARCH 7.--Arrived .... -, 0 0 ship Gelykheid, from the Humber ; the o ut s, 0 Borer 4un-bri g g, at the N.re, from Yonl - goil if id _ Sailed the Beaver sloop, Cap'. Ol r " o h' Yarmouth; the Zebra, Captain POO' the Downs. la Coll i A l M. G ft:ostler has found than v iv o cues to all the earths a rcfrattorY makers' crucibles, formed of any cIJY," 'eo n " ferruginou s , t o w hi c h a third or halt 0r,(44`01 Bandisaro is added, resist the :talon or . most perfeet manner. sO O The head of a newly b o rn infant wake 0 00 since round in the river \Venom. parents have not yet been discovered PRit't YESTEI roCKa. India Stock , 01° nt e 1 31.4 Offit111 1111) . raid 3 per cent. Ocfc. A 4 per Lent. stria (OK imperial ; fof C 4ll ''' Ditto Ann. J A P Con*. tor so AV.,