The Sun. — London, England, 1858-06-25 00:00:00

FRE SUN, pally to address the house— -if at any tame they obtained bad indeed heard from India that the dresses and ward the simplicity which he arged for with regard te the robes of the ladies of the Court had been exposed to sale, Government at home, what changes would it ho deter- like a t ankrupds stock, in the haberdashers' shops of able to make in the Government in ledia ? And he would Calcutta—a thing likely to incense and horrify the peo make one observation at this point, that in all the state- ple of India who witnessed it. Take, again, the case of ments and arguments which he hoped to use be begged the Burmese war. The Governor-General entered into the house to believe that he used them with the greatest it, and annexed the province of -1 3, gu, and to this day possible deference, with the feeling that this was a ques- there had been no treaty with tne King of Burmala if tion upon which no man was at all entitled to dogma- that case bad been brought before the house, it was im tise, that it was a vast question which they all looked at possible that the war with Burmah could have been en as one they were scarcely capable of handling and deter- tered upon. He did not believe that there was one man mining. (Cheers.) He submitted bai views to the house in England who, knowing the facts, would say that this because he had considered the subject more or less f or war was just or neceseiry in any sense. (Hear.) The many years, and he believed he was actuated by the Governor-General of India had an army of 300,000 men eirnale and honest desire of contributing something to under his comnonnil ; he was a long way from home ; the information and knowledge of Parliament with re- he was himself highly connected with the governing gard to its duty upon this que-tion. (Cheers ) What was classes at hnme. There were certain reasons that made it they had to complain of in lnclia.? What was ii- that war palatable to large classes, and be was so powerful the people of India, if they spoke by his mouth, had to that he entered into these grea , operations almost en complain of ? They would tell the house that, as a rule, ' controlled by the opinion of the Parliament and people throughout all the presidencies, and tdroughout those ! of England. He might commit any amount of blunders presidencies most which had longest been under British . or crones against the moral law, and be would still re rule, the cultivators of the soil, the great body of the ! main loaded with dignities and certain of pensions. Did population of India, were in a condition of great ire- I it not become the power of that house to examine ear -1 rowly the foundation o f th e m i s f or t unes an d di sgraces o f poveriehment, of gr e at d e j ec ti on , an d o f grea t su ff er i ng. 1 (Hear.) He bad brought to th e house th e re p or t o f th e the grave catastroph e w hi c h h a d j us t occurre d ? Th e committee which he obtained 10 y ears ago, up„ w hi c h place ef the Governor-Ge nera l was t oe hi g h— -hi s power sat several members of the Court o f Di rec t ors , an d th e y l was too great—and he b e li eve d th at thi s part i cu l ar o ffi ce I and officer wer e very m uc h responsible—of come e under all agreed to report as m uc h as b e h a d now s t a t e d t o the Government a t bona—for the udefortunes that had the house—the report b e i n g con fi ne d chi e fly t o th e pre sidencies of Bombay and M a dra s . If h e were now su b- takes place. O n ly thi n k o f a G overnor -G enera l o f I n di a mitting the case of the population of India he would i writing to an Indian prince, the ruler over many mil say that the taxes of India were more onerous and I hoes ef men in the heart of India,—" Remember, you oppressive than the taxes of any other country in I are but as the dust under my feet." Passages like these the world. He thought he could demonstrate that were left out of despatches. It would not do for the proposition to the house. He would show that indus- Parliament cf England to know that their officer ad trydressed langua g e I le a this t) a native prince. (Hear.) The was neglected to a greater ext en t p ro b a bl y t h an a as lac. was that a Gov e rnor-General o fl n dia, unless be was the case in any other county i n th e wor ld w hi ch b ad been for any le ng th o f ti me un d er w h at was termed a such a man as wa s not found mer e th a n once in a cen- H e fury, was ve r y li a bl e t o h a v e hi s h ea d turned, a n d t o civilised and Christian G o v e r nmen t. (th ere h ear, ) form ambitious views, which were mainly to be gratified !would be able to show front the notes and memo ran d a o f by eucctestul wars and the annexation of province after eminent men in India, of th e G overnor o f B enga l , M r. provi ice during the period of his rule. The s erv i ces Halliday, that there was not and n e v er h a d b een i n any w country pretending to be civilised a co n diti on o f thi nga to were always ready to help him in thes e plan s . H e as not sure that the Presid en t o f th e B oar d o f C on t ro l be compared with that which exited under th e p o li ce administration of the province of Bengal. (Hear.) With could not give evidence on this subject, for he bad heard regard to the courts of justice he m ig ht say th e same something of wh a t h a d h a pp ene d w h en th e no bl e l or d thing. He could quote pas-ages f rom b oo k s wr i tten i n was in India. When th e Bu r m ese war b ro k e ou t th e favour of the Company with all the bias which the not le lord could no doubt tell the house that, without strongest friends of the Company cottH have, in which inquiring into the quarrel or is causes, the press of the writers declared that, precisely in proportion as'. Inure, le idea was devoted to the wrvicee, and the ser- English courts of justice bad extended, had perjury and i vices themselves, broke out into univer-al approbation all the evils which perjury introduced into the adminis- lof the couree taken by the Governor-General. Justice tration of justice prevailed throughout the presidencies of I to Pegu and the millions of taxes to be raised for the India. (Rear.) With regard to public works, if he were support of the war were forgotten, and nothing but speaking for the natives of India he would state this fact, eisione of more territory and better patronage floated a. that in a single English county th ere were more reads— before the e y es o f th e E ng li s h i n I n di He cora more travelable roads—tha n were t o b e f oun d i n t h e tended that th e p ower o f th e G overnor -G enera l was whole of India ; and he would say also that the single too great and the office too high to be held by the i-ul jest sity of Manchester, in the supply of its inhabitants with of any Power whatever, and, especially by any subj -ct of the Queen o f E e g an d. H e s h o uld p r puss, if he were the single article of water, t re d s p en t a larger sureof money than the East India Company had eewut in the in a position to offer a scheme in the shape of a ball to 14 years from 1834 to 1848 in public works of every the house as an iediepensible preliminary to the sound kind throughout the wholeof its vastdonainions. (Cheers.) . government of India in future, such as would be credit- Ile would say the real activity of the Indian Govern- able to Parliament and advantageous to the people of ment had been an activity of conquest and annexation— lndia, teat the office cf Governor-General should be abo (hear)—of conquest and annexation which after a time lisbed. (Hear.) Perhaps some gentlemen thought this a had led to a fearful ewe trephe, which had enforced on very unreasonable proposition. Many people thought the house attention to the question of India, which but it unreasonable in 1853 when it was proposed to abolish for that catastrophe he feared the house would not have the E eat India Company ; but now Parliament and the given it. (Cheers.) If there were another charge to be country believed it to be highly reasonable and preper— made against the past Government of India it would be (hear) —and he was not sure that Le could not briug be with regard to the state of its finances. Where ea-, fore the house reasons to convince them that the aboli there a bad government whose finances were in good tion of the office of Governor-General was one of the order ? Where was there a really good government whole most sensible and one of the most Conservative proposals finances were in bad order ? Was there a better test in ever brought forward in connexion with the government the long run of the condition of a people and the merits of India. (Hear.) He believed the duties of the Governor of a government than the state of the finances ? And General were far greater than any human being could yet not in our own time, but going back through all the adequately fulfi'. He had a power omnipotent to crush pages of " Mill," or any other history of I n di a , th ey anything that was good. If he so wished he could ever found the normal condition of the finances of India bear and overrule whatever was proposed for the wen had been that of deficit and bankruptcy. He maintained fire of India, while, as to doing anything that was good, that if that were so the Government was a bad Govern- he could show that with regard to the va,t countries over tnent. It had cost more to govern India than the Ge- which he ruled he war . powerless to affect anything that vernmeet had been able to extract from the population those coui tears :sally required. (Hear.) The hon. gen of India. The Government had not been scrupulous as tieuran behind him (Ob. dyne:) tole them there were 20 to the amount of t axes or th e mo d e i n w hi ch they were nations in India, and that there were 20 1 ieguagee. Did it ever happen before that any ono roan governed 20 na tions, ; but still, to carr y en t h e government of India tions, speaking 20 diff e r en t l anguages , an d b oun d t h em according to the system w hi c h h a d h ereto f ore preva i le d , more had been required than the Government could ex• up toger her in one great compact empire. tract by any system of taxation known to them from [An Hoe. MEMBER here made an ob-ervation.] the population over which they ruled. It cost more His hon. friend mentioned somegrcat Parth. a monarch. than 30,000,0001. a-year to govern India, and the gross No doubt there bad been men strong in atm and in revenue being somewhere about 30 000.0001 , and there head, and of stern resolution, who had kept great being a deficit, the deficit had to be made up by loans, empires together during their lives ; but aS soon as they The Government obtained all they could from the pope- went the way of all flesh, and descended, like tue Wien. It was not enough, and they had to borrow from meanest of their subjects, into the tomb, the provinces the population and from Europeans at a high rate of in- . they had ruled were divided into numerous petty Sates tereet to make up the SUM which was found to be neces- and their great empires vanished. (Hear, hear) He leery. They had a debt of 60,000,0001. It was centi- would ask the noble lord below Liar (Lord J. Russell) flintily increasing. They always had a loan open, and and the noble lord the member for Tiverton (the noble while their debt was increasing their credit had been lord the member for King's Lynn had not as yet expe falling, because they had not treated their creditors very rience on that point) whether, when they came to appoint honourably on one or two occasions, and chiefly, of a Governor-General of India, they did not find it one of course, on account of the calamities which had recently the most serious and difficult duties they could be called happened in India. There was one point with regard on to perform. (Hear, hear.) Hedid not know at this to taxation which he wished to explain to the house, and moment, and he never did know, a man who was corn he hoped that, in the reforms to which the noble lord petent to govern India—(hear, hear)—and if any man 'was looking forward, it would not be overlooked. He I said he was competent, he set himself up at a much bad said that the gross revenue was 30,000,000/. Ex- higher value than those who were acqueiuted with him elusive of the opium revenue, which was not, strictly were likely to do. (A laugh.) Let the house look at speaking, and hardly at all, a tax upon the people, he the making of the laws for 20 nations speaking 20 lan set down the taxation of the country at something like guagee. Look at the regulations of the police for 20 25 000,000/. Honourable gentlemen must not compare nations speaking 20 languages- (riser) Look at the 25,000,000/. taxation in India with 60,000,0001. in Eeg- question of public works as it affected 20 nations speak land. They must bear in mind that in India they could ing 20 languages, where there was no municipal p , wer have 12 days' labour of a man for the same sum in e il• and no combinations of any kind, such as facilitated the Ter or gold which they bad to pay for one day's labour of constructien of public works in this country. (hear.) a man in England; that if, for example, these 25,000,000/. Inevitably all those duties that devolved on every good 'were expended in purchasing labour, it would pur- Government must necessarily he neglected by the Go chase twelve times as much in India as in England vernor-General of India, however wise, capable, and —that was to say, that the 25 , 000 , 00 0/. would purchase honest he might be in the performance of his duties, be es many days' labour in India as 300,000,0001. would cause the duties they laid upon him were such as no purchase in England. [An Hon. Member.—H ow much man now living or who ever lived could properly sus is the labour worth ?] That was precisely what he was tain. (Hear, hear.) It might be asked what be would coming to. If the labour of a man was only worth 2 t substitute ter :he Governor-Generalship. Now, he did ts-day, they could not expect as much revenue fro m hi m not propose to abolish the office of Governor-General of as if it were 2s. a-day. That was just the point to w hi c h India this gesiion. (A laugh.) He was not proposing he wished the hon. gentleman would turn his attention. any clause in the bill, and if he were to propose one to They bad in England a population which, f o r th e sa k e carry out the idea he had now expressed, he might be of argument, he would call 30,000,000. They had in answered by the argument that a great part of the popu• India a population of 150,000.000. Therefore, the lation of India was in a state of anarchy, and that it populatioreof India was five times as great as the popu. wool Ibe meet Inconvenient, if not dangerous, to abolish lation of England. They raised 60,000,000/, taxation in the office of Governor• General at such a time. (Hear.) England. Tbey raised in India, arguing by the value He did not mean to propose such a thing now, but he of labour taxation, equivalent to 300,000,000/, which took that opportunity of stating his views, in the hope was five times the English revenue. A man might say that when they came to 1863 they might perhaps be the taxation in India and England appeared about the able to consider the question more in the light in which same, and no great injury was done. But it must be he was endeavouring to present it to the House. borne in mind that in England they had an incalculable (Hear, hear.) Ile would propose that, instead of bay• power of steam, of machinery, of modes of transit, roads, log a Governor-General of an Indian empire, they should canals, railways, and everything which capital and have neither the one nor the other. (Hear, bear, and a human invention could bring to help the industry of the laugh.) He would propose that they should have presi people, while in India th e r e was nothing of the kind, dencies, and not an empire. (hear.) If he were a Minis (Hear.) In India there was scarcely a decent road, the ter—which the house would admit was a bold figure of rivers were not bridged, there were comparatively no speech—(a leugb)—and if the house were to agree with steam-engines, and none of those aids to industry that him—which was also a rather essential point—he would met us at every step when travelling in Great Britain propose to have five presidencies in India, and he would and Ireland. Suppose steam-engines, machinery, and bays the governments of those presidencies perfectly m ides of transit abolished in England, how touch re equal in rank and in ea'ary, The capitals of those prosi• venue would the Chancellor of the Exchequer obtain dencies would be Calcutta, Madras, Bombay, Agra, and from the people of Eiglard ? Instead of 60,000,000 e, Lahore. He would take Madras as an illustratioee Id,as ' a-year, would beeget - 10,000,000/. ?He doubted it very dray bad a p ipulation of some 20,000,000. Taely eti knew m rub. If theOhonse would follow out the argu. its position on the map, and that it had the advantage of Molt, they would come to the c-onclusion that the taxes of being more compact, geographicelly speaking, than the tre people of India were oppressive to the last degree, and other presidencies. It had a Governor and a Council. He that the Government which had thus taxed them could be would give to it a Governor and a Council still, but would tolerated no longer, and must promptly be put an end confine all their duties to the Presidency of Madras, and to at once and for ever. He wished to say something he would treat it just as if Madras was the only portion about the manner in which these great exeenees were of India connected with this country. He would have its incurred. The extravagance of the East India Govern- ficance, its taxation, its justice, and its police depart ment was notorious to all. He believed there never was meats, as well as its public works and military &part e service under the sun that had been paid at so high a merits, precisely the same as if it were a State having no rate as the exclusive civil service of the East India connection with any other part of India, and r. cognised Company. Clergymen and missionaries could be got to only as le dependency of this country. (Hear.) He would go out to India for a moderate sum—private soldiers and propose that the government of every presidency should officers of the army went out for a moderate retuunera- correspond with the Secretary fer India in England, and tion—merchants were content to live in the cities of that there should be telegraphic communications between India for a percentage not greatly exceeding tee ordinary all the presidencies in India, as he hoped before long to profits of commerce. Bat the civil service, because it was see a telegraphic communica•ion between the office of the bound up with those who were raised by it, and who noble lord (Lord Stanley) and every presidency over dispensed the patronage, received a rate of payment which he presided. (Hear, hear.) He would no doubt which would be incredible if they did not know it to be be told that there were insuperable dif f iculties to such true, and which, knowing it to be true, they must admit an arrangement, and he would be sure to hear of the was monstrous. The East Indian Government scattered military difficulty. Now, he did not profess to be an salaries about at Bombay, Calcutta, Madras, Agra, La- authority on military affairs, but he knew that ruili bore, and half-a dozen ether cities, which were up to the - tary men often made great mistakes. He would have mark of those of the Prime Minister and Secretaries of the army divided, each presidency having its own State in this country. These salaries were framed upon army, just as now, care being taken to have them the theory that India was a mine of unexpl ore d wealth, kept distinct, and he saw no danger of any confusion although no one bad found it so but the members of the or misunderstanding, when an emergency arose, of civil service of the East India Company. (Hear) The having them all brought together to carry out th e views policy of the Governmeret was at the bettom of the coo- of the Government. There was one difficulty which it was Marg. deficit. The Chancellor of the Exchequer had twice important to bear in mind, and that was with regard to declared that expenditure depended upon policy. That the councils in India. He thought every goverhoh of a was true in India as in England, and it was the policy presidency should have an assietant °outlet] ) bnt d.ffer that had been pursued there wbieh rendered the revenue ently constituted from what they now were, He would liable to this constantly recurring deficit. He bad come have an open council. The noble lord the member for to the conclusion, which many hon, members probanly London used some expre:sions the other night' which he bleared with him, that the edifice we Lad reared in India interpreted to mean that it was necessary to maintain in was too vast, There were f e w men now, and least of all all its exclusiveness the system of the aiell service in those connected with the East India Company, who, look- India. In that he entirely differed from the noble lord. ing back to the policy that h a d b een pursued, would rot (Lord J. Russell here indicated dissent.) The noble lord be willing to admit that it had not been judicious but corrected him io that statement, and therefore ho must Hazardous—that territories had been annexed that had have been mistaken, What they wanted eves to make better been left independent, and that wars had been un- the Governrnent e o f eac h of the Presidebeiee Govern dertaken which were as needless as they were altogether mente for the people of the Presidency ; not Clovernments unjustifiable. (Hear.) The immense empire that had for the civil servant s o f th e Crown, but for the non-official been conquered was too vast for management, its base mercantile classes from England who settle there, and was in decay, and during the last 12 months it appeared fur the 2 0 ,000,000 of nativ es , (Hear, he; r.) He should to be tottering to its fall. Who or what was the in- propose to du that which was done with great advantage etrument the Cabinet, th e G overnment, or the per- in Ceylon. He had received a letter from an officer eon—by whom this evil policy was carried on I who bad been in the servic e o f th e E as t I n di a O ath - The greatest offic er i n I n di a was the Governor• pang, and who told him in that fett e r h fact which geeti General. He was the ruler of about one-fifth, fled him very much. He mall certainly more than one-sixth, of the human race. The "At a public t dp o n r e t e at tioloreb—o, in 18:35, to the (Inver t of France and Russia were but the governor, nor, Si Wilmo on, at which I was present, the best of provinces compared with the power, the dignity, and speech of tire evenine m made b by at Atlyttaie a heave the high estate of the Governor-General of India. Now, nobleman of Candy7anT a s e ra ssLo i l, d q? ),. sound , serse, e r r of . Connell. It was re over this officer almost no real control was exercised. malleable for its approprlateeeilist If he were to appeal to the two hon, gentlemen who had ' and the deliberatie n and ease that P at i teranbe of frequently addressed the house during these debates hi s feelings. There was no repetitioa dr e - keele '' (Colonel Sykes and Mr. Willoughby), they would probe- or flattery, and it was admitted *all who lieZ-I(.l.l,seoicif)y lily admit that the Governor-General of India was an but the the soundest and neetacts speech of the night,"' him to ° cfficer of such hi g h position that scarcely any control This was M Ceylon. It was not, of u e if i what best. tears who could make the best course,speech C could be exercised over him, either in India or England. he had road could be, said of a native ; of 'take the case of the Marquis of Dalhousie for example, t He was not about to make an attack upon him, for the could be said of thousands in India. They nyeeodn, it occasion was too solemn for personal controversies. But Silo hear.) And in every to beyond the walls of that house to find a bead bronzed aninae lts sutt n equal to the ablest heads e those the annexation of Sahara, of the Punjab, of Nagpore t o ;t tl e i vas no d t the same. There And of Oude occurred und e r hi s ru l e. (Hear,) H e would part of adorned the a e a ll c o l i c ' y t c e ea s e s . w . ( t l:l lea e t ar it was apenrisnosliusloit'ntlc‘nutdohilee net g o into the case of Setters, but one of the mostma;s- 1 people of India to Y nifi cen t princes that India ever produced cuff red and were thousands anl. (Hear, hear.) died most unjustly in exile, either through the mi-takes awl:l),oewrnerrneenctornmpigehtetncthotoosetatkooadalysnacpueosts'hot:.m. or the crimes of the Government of India. This, how- i ion to which the If the governor each h . presideney were to have in iris ever, was Lot done under the Government of Lord Del p council some of the officials of his Government, semis of houere. •As to the annexation of Nagpore, the boute had never heard anything about it had b beep no message from the Crown or statement of the in presidency, and two or three at least of the intelligent natives of the pre- Cro Vernoteet relative to that annexation: H sidency in whom the people would have some confidence en. members , they would have begun that which would be of iueetiiiiable, e en made with propose it simply lieve, will lead to out which those or conveniently isary and desira nment which all I and cumbrou', y which has en . ut day can serve substitution for more p e rmanent ministration, an d 'eminent of that in the Engli° ll authority of 1011 Se and to th e The noble lord d a second tiaie rpose of opposing 'contrary, if and ie,fniuse he 'odd y, however, tb° t ) bill to which be f them would, b e through commi t ' could only lor e in 1853, w ithin nons would take luestion, withth e India as carried is opportunity of neral question of have been out of the various rota' U6O. He though t r that, while two es with regard to had really been ihes of the nails whom those bill s 3.) That opinion, mm two or three side of the house. the noble lord at, iced his bill—an d present Chancel' his measure- - e question than e right hon. g en. etion why it wa s Company. Tb° Ir. Mangles) bad ;a during the pro• ionourable mein' r,ast India Co''d hich animals in' astern countries ied with garlands That was true ; house csins quite ust be clear tha t met this session hen Governmen t Lion. A feeling migh t lieved he might me past the g e ', od government •imes—had bee° it the conscieni is que s tion, a° irrepressible in' India Compaq id, as the n ation a established for pressi•no, arising , that the f ° ' been grievona l i a complain t for coulai llk : ustice ; and tba t the Indian Ga' people of Eat It was said that e B iard o f Con' ended the Board the East Indio tr, I—to its di e ' • t everything t he 4, - edit of the .glo" beers and laugh' dangles) wool; pinion up on the' neral inapressie ° 3rovernment Acs e more than cos is people of India iubjects ware uioo, the chang e d. Subsequel occurred, an in—a conclusi on could resist."' vast populatiO a form of govern' iod. If, they, it how it should b° lie thought ird had p u rsued during this r e ' 'oundation of 0 11 d be commenc ed single step wi th ro v ement in t he what he wig' changes effecte d iange which vr ° ,,. ! For his o'N'm could not alto' case. What the/ if India was tb, /I ! d " a little m o r e ty and more f ir had objected to Ihancellor of th e these requisit e ; Kstera they 'O r could not bring sidering the su , [mselt this qu i l an East In dia ppose India b s° wn, command ed , of the Crown , rern distant di d ation that con' a system of B' o ruld never b°,l tad not ezis te i i have p r opoge . Ile thong b i in the bands e a ies, clerks, ° I) wall as to and divided, oat the only re /I c i old be disposea is that they be of 24, and s° b ived there the house, an in making, e hi iple plan sr C h - :h body as tu g 'hod. He Aa rnment of 10 01 ' be necessa l l lade in the 0e ; agreed with Ot o utatives of to .ell as respou ° , 4 l• cal with o' 33e hundred a" „ - a hourly agle y 4 : 10,000 miles it to be settle en the sP cit. sverning In dif4 . WillonghOi rit of the Ea° is views 11 1 )41 sen very nd uch o f ihed r e port is duties d i ! idia ComPlieJ LONDON, value hereafter—they would have begun to unite govern ment with a governor, and unless they did that no Govern ment would be safe, and any hurricane might overturn it or throw it into utter confusion. (Hear.) Now, suppose the Governor-General gone, their presidencies established, the governors equal in rank and dignity, and their coun cils constituted in the manner he had indicated, was it not reasonable to suppose that the delay which had hitherto been ono of the greatest curses of their Indian government would bo almost altogether avoided ? Instead of a Gover nor-General living in Calcutta, never travelling over the whole of the country, and knowing very little about it, and that only through other official eyes, was it not reason able to suppose that the action of the Government would be more direct in all its duties and in every department of its service than had been the ease under the system which had existed un it now? Their administration of the law, marked by so much disgrace, could never have lasted so long as it had done if the governors of their presidencies had boon independent governors. So with regard to mat ters of Voice, education, public works, and everything that could stimulate industry, and so with regard to their system of taxation. They would have in every presidency a constant rivalry for good. (Cheers.) The governor of Madras, when his term of office expired, would be de lighted to show that the people of that presidency , were contented, that the whole presidency was pro gressing in civilisation, that roads and all manner of useful public works were extending, that industry was becoming more and more a habit of the people, and that the exports and imports were constantly increasing. The governors of Bombay and the rest of the presidencies would be animated by the same spirit, and so they would have all over India, as ho had said, a iivalry for good ; they , would have placed a check on that malignant spirit of am bition which hod worked so much evil—(hoar, hear)- -they would have no governor so great that they could not con trol him or who might make war when he pleased ; war and annexation would be greatly checked, if not entirely prevented; and he did in his conscience believe they would in that way have laid the foundation for a better and more permanent form of government for India than had ever ob tained since it came under the rule of England. (Cheers.) But how long did England propose to govern India? (Hear, hear.) N asZody ante ;Ilea that question, and nobody ( oul I answer it. Bea .50 or 500 years, did any man with the smallest e 'emmeriug of common sense believe that that great country, with its 20 different nations and its 20 languages, could ever be bound up and consolidated into one compact and enduring empire ? He believed such a thing to be utterly impossible. We must fail in the attempt if ever we made it, and wo were bound to look into the future with reference to that point. The presidency of Madras, for instance, having its own government, would, in 50 years become ono compact State, and every part of the presidency would look to the city of Madras as its capital, and to the government of Madras as its ruling power. If that were to go on for a century or more, they would have their five orsix presidencies of India built into so many com pact States, and if at any future period the sovereignty of England should be withdrawn, we should leave so many presidencies built up and firmly compacted together, each able to support its own independence and its own govern ment, and we should be able to say we had not left the country a prey to that anarchy and discord which he believed were inevitable if we insisted on holding those vast terri tories with the idea of building them up into one great empire. But he was obliged to admit that mere machinery was not sufficient in this case, either with respect to his own scheme, or to that of the noble lord (Lord Stanley). They wanted something else than mere clerks, stationery, despatches, and so forth. They wanted what he should designate as a new feeling in England, and an entirely new policy in India. (Cheers.) They must in future have India governed, not for a handful of English men—not for that civil service who. .e praises were 13 ) con stantly sounded in that house. They might govern India, if they liked, for the good of England, bet the good of Eng land must come through the channel of the good of India. (Hear.) There were but two modes of gaining anything by our connection with India. The one was by plundering the people of Inlia, and the other by trading with them. He preferred to do it by trading with them; but in order that England might become rich by trading with India, India itself must become rich - (hear)—and India could only be come rich through the sound administration of justice, an 1 through entire security for life and property. Now, as to this new policy, he had said if he were Minister he should do so and so; and he would tell the house what he thought the Prime Minister should do if this bill pessed. He ought to choose for his President of the Bean! of Con trol or his Secretary of State for India a man who could not be excelled by any other man in his Cabinet or in his party 'for capacity, for honesty, for attention to his duties, and for knowledge of the particular office to which he was ap poktel. If any Prime Minister appointed an inefficient man to such an office ha would be a traitor to the throne of England. (Cheers.) That officer, appointed for the qua lities he had just indicated, should with equal scrup-lous- Dees and conscientiousness make the appointments whether of the Governor-Gen e r a l, or , s h ou ld that office be aholi-hed,l of the governors of the presidencies of India. Those ap pointments should not be rewards for old men simply be cause such men had done goodase rice:when in their prime, nor should they be rewards for mere party service —(hear, hear)—but they should be appointments given under a feel ins that interests of the very highest moment, connected with this country, depended on those great offices in India being properly filled up. The same principles should run throughout the whole system of government, for unless there was a very high degree of virtue in all those appoint ments, andur less cur great object was to govern India well, and to exalt the name of England in the eyes of the whole native population, all that we had recourse to in the way of machinery would be of very little use indeed. He admit ted that this was a great work; he admitted also that the further he is ent into the consideration of this question the more he felt that it was too largo for him to grapple with, and that every step they took iu it should be taken as if they were men walking in the dark. They had, however, certain great principles to guide them, and by their light they might make steps in advance, if not fast, at any Cato sure. But they started from an unfortunate position. They started from a platform of conquest by force of arms ex tending over 100 years. There was nothine in the world worse than the sort of foundation from which they started. The greatest genius who had shed lustre on the literature of this country had said, " There is no sure foundation set on blood ;" and it might be the unh a ppy p os iti on o f thi s country tat in regard to India we were verifying the truth of that saying, We were always subjugators, awl were looked at with hatred and suspicion, He s a id we must look at the thing as it was if we were to see our exact position, what our duty was, and what chance there was of our retaining India and governing it for the advan tage of its people. Our difficulties had been enormously increased by the revolt. The people of India had only seen England in its worst form in that country. They had seen it in its military power, its civil service, and in the supremacy of a handful of foreighers. When natives came to this country they were delighted. They found themselves treated with a kindness, a considerations respect, to which they were wholly strangers in their own country, and they could not unaerst and how it was that men who were so just, so attentive to them here, some , times, indeed, too often, appeared to them in a different character in India, (Hear, hear.) He remembered that the Hon. F. Shaw, who wrote some 30 years since, stated, in his able and in tractive book, that even in his time the con , duct of the English in India towards the natives was loss agreeable, less kindly, less just than it had been in former years ; and in 1853, before a committee, prceated over by the hon. member for Huntingdon, tsvln'enca was given that the feeling between the rulers and the ruled in India was he oming every-year lees like what could bedeaired,'lt Was only kh o r day the ° appemed in al. tier of the Tietc4 correspondent an anecdote which it was necessary to repeat to the house, Mr, Russell, of the Pine* stated a— " I went off to breakfast in a small mosque, which has been turned into a salle ni manger by some officers sta tioned here, and I confess I should have eaten with more satisfaction had I not )seen as I entered the enclosure of the mosque a native badly , wounded on a cbarpoy, by which was sitting a woman in deep affliction. The expla nation given of this scene Was that [the name of the Englishman was left blank---(hear)--] had been lick ing two of his bearers ( r servants), and had nearly min:. dered them.' This was one of the servants, and, without knowing or oaring to know the causes of moth chastise. meat., I cannot but express my disgust at the s .verity— to call it no harsher name—of some of our fellow country• men towards their domesties." -- (near, hear.) The hon, gentleman - proceeded to say, the reading of that paragraph gave me extreme pain. People may fancy that this does not matter much, but I say it matters very much. (Hear, hear.) Under any system of governmeet you will have Englishmen scattered all over India, and conduct like that I have first read in any dis trict must create ill-feeling towards England, to you rule ; to your supremacy; and when that feeling has become sufficiently extensive any little accident may give fire to the train, and you will have calamities more or less se lions, such as we h ave h a d d ur i ng t we l ve mont h s. (H ear , hear.) You must change all this if you mean to keep India. l(Hear, hear) I do hot make any comment upon the mode in which this country has been put into possession of India, I accept that possession as a fact There we are ; we don't know how to leave it, anti there fore let Its see if we know how to govern it. (Hear, heir.) It is a problem which, perhaps, no other nation had to solve. Let us Sao whether there is enough of intelligence And virtue In England to solve the diffi culty, In the first place, then, I say let us abandon all that system of calumny against the natives of India which has lately prevailed. (Hear, bear.) Had that people not been docile—the most governable race in the world, how could you have maintained your power for 1 0 years?? (Hear.) Aro not they iridtistrions, are they not intelli gent, are they not—upon the evidence of the most elk tinguished men tha Indian service ettea pacal ado,d--oxitio wed with meaur qualities Which make them respected by all Englishmen who mix with them? I have lleard that rich . e ou, perhaps 50, men of tas Ost..htt eifeirience, and have read the same in tha WorkS of some Of the best writers upon Lathe s Then, let Us not have cheap constant Celtnn: nies against such a g b o e e a li b o o o e t t t t l b a is a. People: Pven P.OW , there arc men who i ztk e n d ! a .t-nida talkingeaking as of if m s ti u t c a ll a t i h o i rt n it gs o h o : d id ii n ti7 e 6 v ), e i r . ties committed in India. (llpr,r, leas say Awithoutt l tumults ea t a l vr grievousai .1 .0 fie acts loehV positione 'obrought sidedo d about atrocities the tottnle. (Hear, hear.) Great political r e oaabs invaderstltiyi t andto° e c b o r d n e r e l i t i t o e e ti i 3 ; they are in the position of the invaded and 146 con' qtreted. Whether I wore a native of India; of hn g land; or of any other country, I *Old hot the less aeeeft great distinction bCtwten their position and ours in that country ) and I would not permit any man in rnar i preseirea without rebuke s to inthilge in tlui arkitnias and expies sions of contemptl have he ar t p oure d forth with= out ineaetire upon the whole population of ledia. (Hear, address myself Isefore eft Mid in Witching upten it hear.) There i s ono other Polikt t o Whi c ik addreat mytosit °specially te thei ti noble lord and his . p I: leagues in the Gevernment. If. had the ibSPonsibill ° ts , of adrainistezin4 the of Indic there are, certain p m a ,e s r se 3 l subiSsjUeec t a o p f r t e l e ) 1; } T r a i t! . o t h i 1 B ,o l w ti n d ia thing* t would do - . I would iteimediately after Bill tt l a i C i e un t ?r li y, d and ia b e e n heard 07in tte territoties of every Indiau Prince or Rajah. I Would offer a gene;,amnesty. (Hear,) It is a ll vet s. well to tetra of issuing an amnesty to all who have done nothing ; hut who IS there done nothing in such e state of affairs vs has prevailed during the o a snt 12 a;;dit, ,, ? jf you pursue your vengeance Until yda Li 4; destroyed every one of those soldiers who have revolted when will your labour cease ? (hear.) *tit ate to punish every non , military babies of India who has girth a piece of bread or .a cup of wa t er t o a revolted trooper, how many natives will esc a p e your pun i shment end vengeance? I would have a gen era l amnesty, which should be put forth as the first great a c t d one d i rectly by the Queen of England in her sovereig n power over the terri toriesyour of India. In this proclamati on I would promise to the natives of India a security f or th e i r property as com plete as we have hero at home, and I would pu t an end to all those mischievous and irritating inquiries which Lave been going on for years in many parts of India as to the title to lauded estates--(hear)- by which you tell the people of that country that unless each man can show an unimpeachable title to his property for 90 years you . . will dispossess him. What would bo the state of things. 'hero if su )11 a regulation were adopted ? (Hear.) I wail 3 oleo FRIDAY EVENING, proclaim to the people of India that we would hold sacred that right of adoption which has prevailed for centuries in that country. (Hear.) It was only the other day that I had laid before me the case of an native prince who has been most faithful to England during these latter trials. When he came to the throne at 10 years of age he was made to sign a document, by which he agreed that if he had no children his territories should be at the disposal of the British Government, or what is called the paramount power. He has been married ; he has had one son and two or three daughters, but within the last few weeks his only son has died. There is grief in the palace, and there is consternation among the people, for the fact of this agree ment entered into by the boy of 10 years old is well known to all the inhabitantsof the country. Representations have already been made , to this country in the hope that the Go vernment will cancel that agreement, an I allow the people of that State to know the right of adoption would; not bo taken from their prince in case he should have no other son. Let the Government do that and there is not a corner of India into which that intelligence would not penetrate with the rapidity of lightning. (Hear, hear.) And would that not still the anxieties of many of those independent princes and rajahs who are only afraid that when these troubles are over the English Government will recommence that system of annexation out of which I be lieve all these troubles have arisen? (Hear ' hear.) would tell them also i n th a t proc l ama ti on that while the people of England held that their own, the Christian, religion was true and the best for mankind, yet it was a doctrine of that religion that those who professed it should hold inviolable the rights of conscience and the rights of religion in others. (Hear.) I would show, that whatever violent, over zealous, and fanatical men may have said in this country, the Parliament of England, the Minister of the Queen, and the Queen herself are resolved that upon this point no kind of wrong of the slightest degree shall be done to the millions who profess the religions hold to be true in India. (Hear, hear.) I would do another thing. I would establish a court of appeal, the judges of which should be judges of the highest character in India, who should sit somewhere and for some period, and for certain periods, for the settlement of those many disputes which have arisen between the Government of Irrtia and its sub jects, some native and some European. I would not suffer tiles° qeesti , lir to ame upon the fl or of this home. I would not forbid them by statute, but I would establish a o urt which would render it unnecessary for any man in India to cross the ocean to seek for that justice which he would be able to get in his own country without corrup tion or secret bargain. (Hear.) Then I would carry out the proposition which the noble lord has made to-night, and which the right hon. gentleman (the Chancellor of the Ex chequer) made when he introduced his bill, that a commis sion should issue to inquire into the question of finance. I would have other commissions, one foi each presidency, and I wouldtell the people ofludiethereahould boa search ing inquiry into what grievances existed there, and that it was the interest and the will of the Queen of England that those grievances'should be redressed. Now, perhaps I may be told that I am proposingstrange things quite out of the ordinary routine of Government. I admit it. We are in a position that necessitates something out of the ordi nary routine. (Hear, hear.) The re are pos iti ons an d times in the history every country, as in the lives of individuals, when courage and action are absolute salva tion, and now the Crown of Eugland, actingby the advice of the responsible Miuisters, must, in my opinion, have recourse to a great and unusual measure in order to allay the anxieties which prevail throughout the wholeof India. The people of Ind a don't like us, but they don't know where to tam to if we left them. They are sheep literally without a shepherd. They are people whom you have sub dued, ant who have the highest and strongest claims upon you—claims youcannot forget—claims which, if you do not act upon, you may rely up n that, if their be a judgment for nations; as I believe there is, as for individuals, our children at no distant gane:ation must pay the penal y' which we have purchased by neglecting our duty to. the populations of India.' (Hear, hear.) I have now stated my views and opinions on this question,not at all in a manner, I feel, equal to the question itself. I felt the difficulty in thinking of it, I felt the difficulty in speaking of it—(hear, hear) —that there is far more in it and about it than any man, however much he may be accustomed to think upon political questions, and to discuss them, can comprise at all within the compass of a speech of ordinary length. But I have described the measures which I would at once adopt for the purpose of soothing the agitation which now disturbs and menaces every part of India, and with the view of inviting the sutenission of those who are now in arms against you. Now I believe—l speak in the most per fest honesty—l believe that the announcement of these mea sures would avairmore in restoring tranquillity than th presence of an additional army, and I believe that their fall and honest adoption would enable you to retain your power in India. I have sketched the form of government which I would establidi in Irrlie and at 'borne, with the view of a_ curing perfect responsibility abet un enlightened adminis tration. I admit that these things can only be obtained in degree, but I believe that a government such as that which I have sketched would be free from most of the errors and most of the vices that have marked and marred your past career in India I have given much study to this great and solemn question. I entreat the house to study it not only now, during the passing of this bill, but after the szesiou is over, and till we meet again next year, whoa, in all probability, there must be further legislation upon this great alliject—(hear)---for I believe that upon this question depends very much, for good or for evil, the future of this country of which we are citizens, and which we all regard and love so much. You have had enough of military reputation on eastern fields ; you have gathered large harvests of that commodity, be it valuable or be it worthless. 1 invite you to something better, and higher, and holier than that; I invite you to a glory not "fanned by conquest's crimson wing," but based upon the solid and permanent benefits whist. I believe the parliament of England can, if it will, confer upon the countless popula tions of India. (Loud cheers.) Mr. WHITESIDE said, ho bad listened to the speeoh of the hon. member for Birmingham with much interest and no little instruction. The hon. genthman had deli vered to the house his sentiments on what he agreed with Haim was one of the greatest and grandest subjects which could occupy the human mind, and that . w.s how they were to decide to govern greet nations. The flatterer of Augustus told him, and with some truth, that to establish c ommunities, to frame wise and wholesome laws, and to govern with equity was a godlike task. The hon. gentleman sail they ought to approach the subject with hesitation. Ile doubted whether the hon. gentleman was ever found hesitating at anything. (Laughter.) While he threw out that wise and prudent remark, that the affairs of India were to be discussed with hesitation and caution, he straightway proceeded in his own peculiar fashion to demolish everything that existed iu that country in the shape of government, and toll them they might proceed to erect what he did not very dis . itictly explain as a remedy for - the evils which existed. He asked a per:Anent question, but he (qr. Whiteside) did not think he answered it. " Whet," said he, " would have been your condition if you had never had an East India Company ?" Why he (qr. - Whiteelele) should ariewer that by asking him, Could we have had the East /tidies to govern or to misgovern ?" (Hear, hear.) It was very easy to put that question, but it was not so early for the hon. g.ntleman to give a satisfac tory answer to this great feet, !bet We had an empire which had been obtai ne d b y a b o dy o f i n di v idu a l s through a chain of the most surprising actions which were recorded in history. He confessed his disposition was not to take leave of the East India Company as the hon. gen tleman had done, in terms, of` aetere sarcaste l but rather with an expression of admiration and respeet, (Hear ) There *eke tWe vikiwa to be taken bf the Government of the Et,t Indies. You could point tv them with some truth its a country in which there had been actions done at Which we ought to blush--in which there had been exhibitei the worst passions of human nature) brit, tlrt the other hand, ho maintained that the very historian tvlitnit the Iron, gun. Heinen had quoted, btit to whose authority he would not defer—because the bon. gentleman yielded to no hettiatt authority—he meant the historian, Mr. Mill, himself afforded the beet vindication of the character and general policy of the East rndla Company. The hon. gentleman had asked how India was to be governed, Now, that ivas a question which had been asked centuries ago by one of the greatest men the world had ever seen. Alexander the Great had discussed that question with Aristotle, and the philosopher advised the warrior to act upon the principle of Greece, to look upon all other nations as barbarians, and to govern India according to the rule which prevailed in his own country, Alexander, however, was a ma n o f 'sense—(a laugh)--and he repli e d that Greece was too small a country to hold a mighty empire upon an exclusive principle—(heat, hear)—that if India Were gained by force of arose, the next step was to establish a Govern ment which would be acceptable to the people of the country ; in fact, Hint they must be governed but not co creed. (Hear, hear ) Now, that reply contained a sound principle of government, and he was prepared to maintain that the English rule in In lia, although, of course, open to some censure, had, during the period for which we had held that country—a conquest and a holding which has been described by a distinguished foreigner as a modern , miracle—had been more just and more beneficent than any rule to which thepeople of India had been befuresubj acted. (Hear, bear.) The hob. gentleman had touched upon every conceivable , subject in reference to India—education, the cultivation of the land, the administration of justice, finances rind revenue of the country, and a great number of othca. subject% Now, it was not his intention to enter into such details,. and he was willing to confess that be should feel himself incapable of at once grapplie4 With those greet questions. To attempt to d o so wou ld be, ae had been described by his eminent countryman Mr. Cur ran, to attempt. to grasp a sphere where each attempt caused it to roll further from one's grasp. Ad regarded mere gnesition 91094nufaTana. there were var i o us tion opiw. Qom° parsonsapprevila the Badmen* of /nerd CerOallis; and oa* iiPProiied the m o d e o f sett einetit in Mathis slid the kofthzWedterit Pfooinees, and he thOught that the hon. gentleman himself, _alit dealing with the peatiOir wiity dd sdovith f . 1,361ing of reat c 6e f or thes3 peisofia Who ait . thane tnose ettleth t nii Th e ha ; gentlemanhad' lei dOwn the principle that the goverbz tient of 111'14 shoUld jib ridged iip4h the priaelpleof aotidn dnu candnesi. Ilok he to othiinditr.itaiid that those Prineiples be .adopted i n t h e mitigat i on of takes; in - the ;eduction otX rit t and in every m eaeure calculated tp Prdnie‘e De we aste frif tilt; tietl)le Rut it the hob: gentiemin action and boldiiess tileatt t 1 . 16 ihtrbdiietiott Olt a Milked iyitkirt of l aw; h e tatide its gteat a mistake .at it was . PiiggiVlo Par r publi c y e w tit coihmit: Ak lib bad lately Bead a work oat the rise sild -di,(6, bf ari ririlpire the go:ahead principle of endeavouring to override the *aliens atilte a±+& criscems tit the bait it ipltt page ineletilab P Mischief. lirete woe not a babier page histt } ii• fecaded the opinioti of 84. done .to Lord, Corby/ a la s upda in ° ,;toile of gerarpiai Ojai , hat diatinini s h e d et l io l ar an d eminent man had laid he sathd Vr!.riel rile Willa Aleir: dodder the Gfaat 11a4 laud eiey,tri bogs hint —lamely, mat fi B A LA theEast.yttlit do so IV. acting in accordance with the habi t s , manners, athi 6,leiortie:, of the people. That such must be so was evident. ;lid people of the East believed their laws to proceed directly from the Deity, cad in the East the code of law and a reference to the Divinity were inseparably connected. Would it be wise, then, to entrust to an uncontrolled see --+,ry of state, f.tee mind was imbued with Western Poli IRA Lin fiowet of arbitrarily interfering with 'or alter ing left and du"g tette which the people of the East suppose to emanate froathe Dinty w by, any imprudent attempt at chalige Alight cost the lives of 100,000 men. The idea of the hon. that the gentleman, . . (Hear, hear.) t of India should be entrusted to a minister governmen uncontrolled ib any way, stronglyand unassisted by the advice of learned and experienced men, could not b e too a minister, if he were possessed deprecated, 'MY, such of a mind and body as active as that of the bon. gentleman the member for Birmingham, if he saw anything in the Indian :system which he thought an absurdity, if he saw Manchester notions, would most pro anything contrary to aandcustoms, and ffi bodily forget all about enemat habits t. a do that which would give ris e to most serious difficulties. But, let the hon. t the house observe the, inconsistency of the argu ment gentleman. The hon. gentleman corn- plained that the Goverpor,General of India was nneon ' trolled, and yet he wished to confide the management of 25, _ 1858. JUNE Indian affairs to a person subject to the control of nobody. If it were - so difficult to find a proper person to act as Go vernor-General of India without control, where was an uncontrolled Secretary for India to be obtained? Much had been said in reference to Parliamentary responsibility, brit, of er all, what did that amount to ? A secretary for India might lose that empire, but when he had done that of what use was his Parliatnentaryresponsibility? (Hear, hear.) The hon. and learned member for Sheffield might probably move a vote of censure upon such a Minister, and might carry it—(a laugh)--but what use would that be when our empire in India was destroyed ? Bnt the house had laid down the principle that there should be a council which was to act as a control and as the advisers of the minister charged with the government of India ; and he was sure that if the hon. and learned gentleman would take a short course of reading on Indian subjects for six months, he would withdraw all the speeches again s t th a t plan hich he had made of late. Considering that we in this country had undertaken, as hon. gentleman had said the task of governing twenty nations living at a great distance from us, no doubt we had to face a difficulty ; but it was not an impossible thing for an intelligent and powerful country to govern a country like India even from a distance. That empire had always been so governed. Akbar Khan had so governed her. It was not a sound doctrine to say that we could not hold and govern distant countries. Austria had several distant countries under her rule ; you complained of it, but it was a fact, she con'rived to do it, and was a powerful state in Europe. The hon. gentleman had talked great good sense when lie talked of the wars and the annexation which he dei recated. But let us be just to the East India Company. There could be no stronger protest against that system than was taken in Mr. rucker's note on the subject of Airghanist le. But of what good was your boasted Par liamentary responsibility ? When his right hon. friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer brought forward a motion condemnatoryof that policy, why did not Parliament sup port him ? He would rather prefer to this notion of Par liamentary responsibility a cou cif of experienced and sen sible men who would endeavour to avoid such a policy and such errors as the hon, gentleman had spoken of. He did not uudentand that we were less likely to get into troubles by having au uncontrolled secretary of state for India, for in the course of a Parliamentary recess we might have a war, with which all that Parliament would have to do would be to pay the bill. The hon. gentleman had spoken well on the subject of annexation. He (Mr. Whiteside) bad read the history of the annexation of many of those states of which we had taken possession. The principle of legality was set aside, and you had not paid the least respect to the ancient laws of the country. The doctrine on that subject had been expounded by Sir W. Jones, who showed that it had been acted on by the Greeks and Romans in all their conquests, but which had been set aside by Lord Dal housie, when he set at nought the ancient custom of the country. The laws of inheritance and marriage had been interfered with most unwisely. It was a mistake to say that such things did not affect the army. Ganeral Briggs said in a work of his that any change in the laws of the country thrilled through the army. If therefore there was any sudden change made la the laws or customs of the country it operated on the military power, and the results would be bloodshed and revolt. The government of India therefore required the greatest amount of wisdom, caution, and prudence. and that be hoped would be possessed by the council which it was proposed to establish. The hon. gen tleman spoken of the futura policy to be observed towards India, and he had urged the declaration of an amnesty ; but all that was not his own thunder, for it had all been laid down already by hi. right hon. friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer ; but he could not agree with the hon. member for Birmingham, who, if he were suddenly in vested with absolute authority, would proceed to make great changes in the laws and customs of India ; for ho (Mr. Whiteside) believed with Bacon, that sudden changes of laws and customs led to revolutions. He differed also with the honourable gentleman with regard to his estimate of the character of the East In lie Company. Ho had, however, listened wi h pleasure to the speech of the hor. gentleman, and he only hoped that the picture which the hon. gentleman had sketched of a happy future for India would be realised ; but believing as he did that this would bo a great and difficult task for any Gevernment so he be lieved that it would require the most watchful care to per form it wisely and well. He believed that Parliament had taken a prudent and sensible course in adopting the priuciple of a council in the government of ladia. He agreed in the plan which had been laid down by his noble friend, and ho hoped that some portion of the future of India which the hon. gentleman had sketched would be realised, as he held with the hon. gentleman that the end and duty of government was not the f .Ise glory of c. n quest, bat the happiness of the people. (Hear.) Mr. P. O'BRIEN urged that the matter for consiiera tion was not the past government or misgovernment of India, but the establishment of a system for its future government. He wished to Fee a responsible Minister, and a responsible council to advise the responsible Minister. - - - - - Mr. V. SMITH regretted the course which had been pursued on the present occa-ion, and thought it would have been much better to have discussed the principles of the measure on the second reading than to have postponed the discussion for the committee. The house had only asserted one principle, on which the two first bills were founded — namely, the resumption by the Crown of the powers of the company, end that there simnel bo some sort of council to assist the Secretary of State. The remarks of the hon. mew ber for Birmingham applied more to the future then to the present ; and although hediffered from many of those re marks, ho thoueht them well worthy of the consideration of the house. The hon. member thought the presidencies ought to be divided. That question was discussed by the committee of 1853, and it wee matter of grave considera tion whether, on creating an additional Colonial-office, the presidencies might not be divided ; but still it would be requisite to have some central authority. The other ques tions which the hon. member hai discussed were of great importence—whether there should not be a general am nesty, and whit ought to be the treatment of the native , princes hereafter. Now he (Kr. Smith) thought the con duct•of the native princes who had stood by this country ought to be rewarded in a suitable manner, particularly the Minister of the Nizarn, and another Minister, who, an eeeiliea to the statement of hrsdnr kant A contingent for four months, and thus materially assts e in the preservation of India, for had that contingent been allowed to march down rapidly it would have been a much more difficult matter to save Lucknow. He agreed with the hon. member for Birmingham that a bill ought to have been introduced in 18e3, and entertained no doubt that if some improvements had been effected at that time many of the difficulties which had since occurred would ha , e been prevented. But he went further than the hon. mem ber. and thought that a change ought to have been effected in 1833, for the moment the commercial functions of the company ceased their political functions ought also to have ceased. The noble lord (Staulay) had stated that in the present bill he bad adopted the number of councillors sanctioned by the resolution which had been agreed to by the house. Bnt the noble lord had gone beyond the correct version of that resolution because it: declared that the number should not be less than 12 or more than 15, whilst he adopted the maximum. The question of the appointment of the council wasone of immense importance, and its constitution ought to be very narrowly examined. ife considered a council of 15 would be cumbrous, incon yoneent, and dilatory. And then with respect to commit tee', there were six departments of the Board of Control, and he thought it would be much bettor that each of them should be represented by ono member rather than by a committee. Responsibility, when spread over numbers, was greatly weakened, and yet responsibility was one of the main objects of the bill. The system which had been pus sued by the Board of Control and the Court of . Direc tors had been one of compromise, and there was some jute in the remark of the hon. and learned member for Sbeffield that the system was a mere sham. But how did the noble lord propose to get rid of that sham ? By forming such a large council that it must necessarily be a sort of sham. was glad eliet the noble lord had gone tee length of abolishing sere ;lead committee, but regretted that he had etre& °et the J im ,Fetion se to increase of expenditure, for if the doundll Wes to he o: any use at all, it would be ex - unnecessary expenditure tremely nseftil cotoroning ari e on the part of the Sectretary, of Mate. noble ,, lord had talked of the introduation of dempetition in ee e services cf the artillery and engineers. He fritsfed the ecael!' lo r d would keep the college at Adliecomh P, tl sd eitend end render it more useful then it had hither-to been, He was glad that the noble lord hid given up the elect feu by constituencies. Bat what he bad substituted was only nomination by another body --nomination by the directors instead of nomination by the Crown. Now, be trusted the committee would press the noble lord still further, so as to secure rieminetion by the Crown altogether. A new prin ciple had been announced by the noble lord,- the appoint ment of a commission of inquiry into the organisatime of the army. That was a very desirable measure, but he thought members of the Council might be appointed who would be able to conduce the inquiry in a perfectly satis factory manner. The next paint was that the noble iced proposed to put in his bill the appointment of the council of the Governor-General. Now he did not think that any persons could be found who could be so well en trusted with the appointment of the council as the Goyernor-General and the governors of the presi dencies. He did not think that the Company had always made the best selection. They had always gone, it appeared to him, on the principle of seniority. He had ventured to mako these observations on' the bill now rather than wait until the bill was in committee. He cordially concurred in the second reading of the bill, which, in fact, he considered was now nearly the same bill as that of the noble lord the member for Tiverton, the greatest difference being that by this bill there would be a Secretary of State for India, while by the bill of the. noble lot d (Lord Paltnerston) there would have been a President of the Connell. (Oh.) B aidee which, he admitted there was the principle of election, instead of nomination. He only regretted that the house would leed• go one step further, and take up the bill of his noble friend, Col: SYKES said, With regard to the eclministration of astice in India, from 98 . to 99 per cent of the whole num ber of cases decided wiare determined by native 3 ,zreges. And with re and to the constittionci by whotri the members council might be elected, he Waled Undertake to fln3 it Constituency of three or four thousand p.strecte, re= tired military and teneil eervants of the company, who had foiliod in India. lie did not approve of the p rovision inich fefeeetreed Members of the council sitting in that house. For 16 yeele riienetets of the Cotirt of Directors had eet in the house, and they *tete ad likely to tome into gen tlest with the President of the Board of control are the mertitiete Of the proposed council were with the Pectetary of State for Inelitie Why deprive the house of the bate fit of the knowledge of those persons Mr. fiIDDII4LL said he did not rise to prolong the dis cussion, but for the Willies° of putting a question—whe theret communication had been made from the Court of Elireeeers to her Majesty's Government on the subject of trier ineetnee now before the house gr.:ACED-Wit said it was with great reluctance that lie inttuded himself on the notice of the house on this teeeretion. lie knew well that he was in a small minority, and that anything that he might say would have no in fluence with the &Me. Bet as. he 'believed that the opi- Ada he held was true he would not shrink from u ttering It, lie believed that this bill was not des tined for any lots efilistence. It had been brought forward under pressure, mad by persons unwilling to do the thing that they were duipg, and *lio, when they wore out of office, took a course directly opposite to that which they wore now taking. When in opposition, in their judgment the proper course was that there should be no legislation; butlwleciahey were in office they foun I them selves coerced by the majority of the house to do, that whrch they were now doing. He hoped the house would allow him for a few moments to pass a retrospect upon the sub ject of India. Something more than a century ago a band of merchants began to trade in India. They acquired a footing in India, and a power over the people of India. As time went on the Government of England encroached more and more on the government of India, and in reality absorbed the whole power. The next step was to compel the East India Company to cease from tradin g . The con sequence of that was that there was a body of men called traders who did not trade, and who were supposed to be the political rulers of a country which in fact they did not rule. Their next step had been to take away not onl the reality, but the ueme and power from the compan y y. The last :great political change to which be should refer was that made by Pitt. Ho introduced the Board of Control, which, in fact, overruled the government of India by the East India Company. When this was done there was introduced a power that governed India without responsibility, and from that had arisen, he believed, all the mischief that had followed from the go vernment of India. The real government of India was the ' Pr :sident of the Board of Control, while theostensible rulers were the Board of Directors with an irresponsible power. But when he brought forward a resolution condemning the Board of Control on the occasion of the Affghan war, the members of the Board of Directors in that house voted against him ; and yet they professed to condemn the Aff€, , han war. It must be acknowledged that the East India Company had built up such an empire as the world never saw before ; but the result had been such a revolt as mankind never saw before. (Hear, hear.) He considered that the bill of Lord Palmerston was a far better one than the one now before the house, which was a thing of shreds and patches, brought in under pressure, and which, though it might pass, would suffer a speedy death. The bill of the Chancellor of the Exchequer he believed to have been concocted by the late and present Presidents of the Board of Control ; but it was of so extraordinary a character, that every one saw it could not pass. The Government then fell back on resolutions which in fact embodied the bill of the Chancellor of the Exchequer ; but those resolu tions they had been compelled to abandon, and now an other bill was before the house.lOn the principle of trans ferring the government of India to the crown, and adminis tering that government through a res p ons ibl e m i n i s ter, all were agreed; but the cork which floated the measure was the great principle that the council was to be partiy elec tive and responsible ; but it would in reality be responsible to no human being. The council of fifteen would be there for life; the Minister would come in and go out with the Government; but the permanent members would be respon sible to nobody. The only way to avoid that was to give the minister power to do just as he liked. A more mis chievous way of governing a country could not be con ceived. The 27th clause provided that all orders and direc tions which would have been sent through tho secret com mittee might be isued by the Minister of the Crown without consulting the Council. The real governors of India would turn out to be the Council, who would be wholly irresponsible, and this would be the rook on which the scheme would split. ➢lr. T.BARING said he had all along opposed legislation for India in the present state of affairs, but he found him self in a minority when the noble lord the member for Tivertnn was in office, and he was in a similar position now. Although it wouLt hive been wise to postpone the in auguration of a new system of government until a mtasure wAsproposed which could not have been met with off'-:•' , tioi e, yet after the repeated decisions of the house he sho..id not oppose the second rea,ding of the bill. The hon. gentleman who 12,,d just sat down had advised that there should be a Parliameutary Government for India; but Parliament could never govern India, and he entered his protest against the views of the hon. end learned gentleman (Mr. Roebuck). The right hon. gentleman (Ur. V. Smith) bad stated that there was no difference between the bill of the present Government and that of the noble lord the mem ber fur Tiverton, but he thought there was the widest dif ference, 'the present Government proposed an independent Council, whereas the Council proposed by the noble lord (Lord Palmerston) gave the nomination to the Crown, each member holding his office for a short time only. The pre sent gave the power of filling up vacancies to the ex isting council men who would be well acquainted with the condition and the demands of India, and who would know precisely the man who should be selected. (Rear, hear.) The bill was then read a second time, and ordered to be committo t to-morrow. PRIUS COURT (IRELAND) BILL. This bill was read a third time and passed. RAILWAY ACT (IRELAND) CONTINUANCE BILL. TLi,, bill passed through committee. PORTENDIC AND ALBREDA CONVENTION BILL. This bill passed through committee, and was ordered for third rca ting to-mot row. CLERK OF PETTY SESSIONS (IRELAND) STAMPS. This bill went through committee. CLERK . OE PETTY SESSIONS (IRELAND) BILL. This bill passed through committee. ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE BILv This bill was read u second time. CHIEF JUSIICE OF BOMBAY BILL. This bill w:l4 read a second time. SA.LE AND TRANSFER OF LAND (IRELAND) BILL. The housir went into committee on this bill, commencing with clause 51, which had referen_ie to the mortgage of Property. Mr. DOBBS movel tho omission of this clause, thinking it would enable persons to go to the court to obtaiu a fraudulent declaration of title. Mr. GROGAN trusted the committee would notsanction the omission of the clause, which he considered essential to the bill. llr. S. MILLER supported the clause. Mr. BUT r would rather see the bill abandoned than that this clause should bo struck out. The t,enimittee then divided on the question that the 51st clause shoul I stand part of the bill Ayes Noes Majority in favour of the clause —l23 Clause 51 w,a agreed to, and The CHAIRMAN reported progress. COMPENSATION OF EXECUTORS, &c , BILL. This bill passed though committee. LEGITIMACY DECLARATION BILL. This bill was read a second time. BLEACHING AND DYEING WORKS. . 131 Mr. KIRK moved that the order fur the renewal of the deb•►te ou this bill be dischar6ed, which was agreed to without a division. The house then adjourned at one o'clock. REINFORCEMENTS FOR INDIA. Yesterday the Duke of Cambridge, Commander-in- Chief, arrived at C hathain for the purpose of inspecting • India depots at that garrison under orders to embark for ledia. His Royal Highness, who was accompanied by Alejer-General Sir R. Airey, K.C.8., the Qtarter master-General, and Colonel Charles Tyrwhitt, his aide ne camp, was received at Chatham station by Colonel 11. Ey, e, the commandant of the garrisoe, and on crese lug the drawlitidge leading inside the fortified works a loyal salute of 21 guns was fired. The troops belonging 1 to the three batutlions were drawn up on the inner lines in review order, and presented a very imposing appear ance, there being 5,000 men of all ranks on the ground. The i attali ins were arranged in the folowirg order : let battalion, under the command of Colonel 11. Jervis, consisting of the 7th It iyal Fus I i era, 24th, 32nd Li ht Infantry, 35. b, 43rd Light Infantry, and 53rd Regi ments, ; 2ed batte lion, commanded ty Col. P e N.l'hiil comprisit"e the 10th, 20th, 231 Royal Wel.h 29th, 521 Light Infantry, and 61-t Reeinieuts ; 31 hat talion, under the command cif Liaun-Col. C. E. Fair tieugh, iecluiieg the Bth, 19%, 70. h, 75ib, 81st, 84th, and 94th Regiments. The tro ps having been formed by depote, the I)uke of Cambridge, attended by Gen. A irey, Col. Terwhitt, Col. Eyre, Col. H. Sandharn, command ing the Royal Engineers, and other officers of the staff, arrived on the lines at 11 o'clock, the tro , ps receivir g h;s Reyal Highness in the usual manner. The Dole then proceeded to make a minute inspection of the de pots cornpiising the three ba,talions, and likewise in spected he nom cetninis , icned officers and men who are under orders to embark fur India. On the concluson of the inspection, which occupied come time, the batta lions broke into open colon n and marched past in sloce and quick time, his Royal Highness expresing to Colonel Eyre his general sati'faction at the appear ance of the troop. On the termination of the review f the troops of the Lioe his Royal Highness inspected te o R eyel Engineers, the men of which corps were also drawn up on the lines, under the command of L'eut.- Colonel A. P. G. Ross. The Duke, after leaving the tines, proceeded with a numerous staff to the huts at Ileery's 13estion, which were occupied by the tromps betn24-Ing to the 31 battelior, for the purpose of making an exami nation of the encampment lies which has forme.forme.been recently forme. at the rear of the_otul,teo.f tromps Royal r Highne,s rode through the camp, th . e.wh ~ ed the having been turned out to rece:nve. Lim. The new bell sheped tents, similar to thene wn ;_eh were u- Crimea, which have just been erected for a portion of the infantry, were also exetnined by htt:, his Royal Highness expressing his approval of the ria.`oner in w hi c h they had been arrang ed, and also of the site c hosen for the camp- These tents are a great improve ment on those formerly used, sad appear to be better adapted for military purposes ; the corps at present n-tog them is the 19th Regiment, nearly 300 men of which are now under canvass. While at the huts his Royal Highness inspected the new model canteen, which has been erected by Mre Budden. Before leaving, the Duke expressed his opinion that it was the best building of the kind he bad ever seer. After leaving the huts his Royal Highness and staff rode to the Spu r B a tte r y, where a portion of the Ist battalion are encamped. The Duke occasionally looked in at the interior of the tents, which appeared to be perfect models of cleanliness and order. These tents are larger than those recently erected for the 3d battalion, each tent accommodating ld men, the troops sleeping on small bedsteads adapted for tent use. His Rep' Highness was occupied until two o'clock in the inspection of the camp and troops, when he left the garrison and returned to the Horse Guards, the guns from the saluting battery firing a Royal salute on his leaving the garrison. AY AVAL AND MILITARY INTELLIGENCE. In consequence of the length of time required to make good the defects of the Vulcan, steam troop-ship, Com modore Seacombe, it is understood that the officers and crew will turn over to the Porstverance. The latter is fitted with Conninghe.no's patent reefing topsails, being the first ship in her Majesty's esrvico so fitted. The screw steam frigate Racoon, 21, Captain J. A. .IYaynter, having had defects made good, sailed from Ply mouth on Wednesday for Spitbead. The ecrelw steamship Brunswick, 80, Capt. E. Om maney, went from jlamoaze into Plymouth Sound on Wednesday. Her Majesty's yacht Victoria and Albert, Captain at the Hon, Joseph Denman, left P o rtsmouth har 6 o'clock last night on her cruise. r member of the Mr, Samuel W. Garratt, senio firm of Gnrratt, Gibbon, and Sons, agents to Lloyds, has been appointed by the American Government United States consular agent for P,rfinioutb. The Goliath, 80, scre..v line-of-battle steamer, has pro ceeded from Chatham to Sheerness for the purpose of being attached to the steam reserve. folowing appointments were made yesterday at the Admiralty :—Sir L. Loraine, mate, and C. G. Jones, mate to her Majesty's Royal yacht Victoria and Albert ; P. R. Parker, midshipman, to the Cm ar ; J. Allen, acting assistant surgeon, to the Victory ; C. W. Jones, dJ. T. Kilgour, naval cadets, to the Curacoa ; W. B. Turner, and E. Hicks, naval cadets, to the Marl borough ; A. H. Bradshaw, A. Little, and W. G. L. Cocq, naval cadet, to the Brunswick ; E. W. Wickham, J. A. Dashwood, F. Garnault, and E. R. Matthias, na sal cadets, to the Caesar ; E. A. Botellas, and F. D. E. Jerningbam, naval cadets, to the Renown ; C. A.. Blake, H. 11. Justice, and J. Bradford, naval cadets, to the Orion ; A. Urenfell, naval cadet, to the Diadem. THE MILITIA.. The coloneloy of the South Tipperary Militia Artillery is vacant by the death of the Earl of Glengall, SPORTING INTELLIGENCP. NEWCASTLE-lIPON-TYNE RACES—WEDNESDAY. ADDITIONAL PARTICULARS. The L'rr need Victuallers' Handicap of 60 soya, for f o yr-olds acd upwards. Winners extra. Three-gear ters of a mile. 29 subs. Mr. G. White's Shafto, 2 yrs, 4st 71h ....(Gritnshaw ) 1 Mr. T. Dawson',, Aefel, 2 yrs, 4.4 121 h ...(lfadder) 2 Mr. G. Forster's Bradley, 3 yrs, Set 131 b ......(Little) 3 The following also ran :—.Lady Alice, Aysgarth, -Die Shamrock Green, Griffin, Solomon, and Northumber land Dutehess. Bett ng-5 to 2 agat Shafto, 3 to 1 agst Griffin, 5 to 1 rust Bradley, 6 to 1 agst Lady Alice. Won in a cauter by two lengths ; had third ; Solomon, Northumberland Duchess, and Griffin were the next lot, but beaten several lengths. The Grand Stand Stakes of 5 rove, p.p., with 50 added, for two and three-yr-olds ; two-yrolle, 64 12,b ; three, Bst 121 b; certain penalties and adowancee. The second raved his stake. T.Y.C. 15 subs. Mr. Bell's Nfarseillaise, 2 yre , , 91h...(W. Grimmer) 1 Mr. Gray's Meta (h h), 3 ire, B.t 13Th (Austin) 2 Mr. G. Ferstet's The Bat, 2 yrs, Est 121 b (Little) 3 Tne fel'oaing also ran :—Arcbduchess, Vivace, Game,t-r, Honey, Wild Duck fil'y, nud Tiny. 134 ins-5 to 4 eget Mar-eillaiee, 4to 1 agat Arch duchess, 6 to 1 agst Meta. 7 to 1 ag-t any other. Wou very eively by two lengths; three lengths between the second and third; a head between the third and fourth; and the same distance between the fourth and fifth. The rest were beaten off. Tne Nor humbr nand Plate of 200 Revs, added tea Han dley Stakes 4f 15 wee each, 10 ft, and 5 only if de clared ; for 3-yr-olds and upwards. The second re. ceive d 50 sore out of the stakes, and the third slaved hie stake. Winners extra. TKO miles. 60 subs, 27 of whom declared, Mr. G. Forster's Hedirhand, 4 yrs, 84t (Bertharn) 1 Mr. Mills's Peusioner, 3 yrs, Est llb (inc. 6 b extra) • I (Pritchard) + Mr. Barber's Hamlet, 4 yrs, 6 t 31b (L. Snowdon) + Mr. E. Raid's Satin-tone, 3 yrs, sst 11 b (J. Snowdon) 4 The following also ran :—Gu-boat, Ba,bi-Bszock, Bretz Ducrow, Herne, Sally, Conductor, Honeytr, e, and Julia. Beting at starting—'9 to 2 aget Pensioner, sto I agst Safi -stone, 6 to 1 aget Underhand, 8 to 1 aget Gunboat, 9 to 1 agst Hamlet, 10 to 1 each aget Minnie a y e ] 11. rne, 100 to 6 each au-t Sally, Duero'', and Julia, 20 to 1 ags Hotirytree, 25 to 1 agat Conductor, 100 to 3 each to,st Bre• z, and Bashi 11 , zouk. A fine race from the distance, won by a neck, Ham let arid Pensioner running a dead heat for second money; Satinetone finiehed three le , gths from them, Conductor was filth, Julia sixth, and Gunboat seventh. The next three were Honeytree, Bret ze, and Herne. The last lot comprised Dncrow, Minnie, and Sally. The Commercial Visitors' Stakes of 5 says each, 3 ft, with 50 added. The second saved his stake. Optional Fell ng weights, &c., certain allowances. T.Y.C. 10 sobs. Mr. Green's C 80, aged (251) 8 t 4'b (Ba•ham) 1 Mr. C. J. hnson s Redcer, 4 yrs (251), let 11th (Little) 2 Mr. Dswron's Dred, 3 yrs (251) 7st (Bu lock) 3 Mr. James's The Abbess, 4; r (251.) 74 1111, (Austin) 4 Bee!ing-7 tJ 4 agst Csliph, 2 to 1 agst the Abbess, 3 to 1 aget Deed. A fine race, won by a neck; two lengths between the second and third. On enterieg the straight The Abbess broke ter leg. The winner s-a - sdd for 71 guineas. Her Maj-s'y's Pate of 100 guineas ; tbree-yr-old, 7af ; four, 8;0, 10. h; five, 9.t 41b; six and aged, 9et 71b. Thr a miler. Mr. Muirlatl'a Lengra.nge, 3 yrs, 7st (Bullock) w.o. Sir C. MenVa Tne Beau, 4 yrs, 84 10 b (Eeeart), was wet"ied hr, lu. did rot start. Seven ran. THURSDAY. Tyre Flauchcap. Griffio Pant ficil Fire ran. Gold Cup Stake . FlecTicrithaia S.tint-tnne Night Ranger 2 Seven ran. Carperatiou Pla!e. Poto abucq Lind actor 1 2 3 Eigt.t rat). The Gateshead Nursery Stakes, Manwillaise c by Vatican, uut cf Lady Mary liarraton Five ran. ROCHESTER AND CHATHAM RACES. 111URSDAY. Mai,len Plate of SO Foes, for bor;ea nevtr having won a plate IT stake. Three-year.oldi and upwarda. The second to receive 5/. from the fui , . Once round and a dittarce. Mr. T. Br( wn'e Hebe, 3yr 7at lib. (C Aliott) 1, Mr. Spencer'm Subt.rfugt• colt, 3 yr., 7t.t. 41b...(Priot) Mr. Eden's Antic, 4 yrs, Set 411........(Nightirgale) The following ale.) ran :—Otonia filly, and Mystuli Wily. Betting-6 to 4 3 gat Sultterfcge colt, 7to 4 agPt Hobe. Won easily by a neck ; a length between the accond 'nd third ; the other two heroin off. The Vit , itorN' ar d Lad , stnen's Plato of 50 sous, a4dei to a flantlinp Ssveep-talt-s of 10 eves, each, 5 ft. One and a-bail. 11 hub.. Mr. T. Brov , r, jun'e. Pactolus, 3 irP, Go, 5 b (C. B:owt ) 1 Mr. Mellish's Time Deer. 5 yrs, 8 t 71b,;...(D t%n p) Mr. Fergusson's Matta-., 3 rtt, 6,t 2 , b...... (NI z.l) 3 Bo•tting-6 to 5 agst Lane Deer, to 4 , gf,t Paco Woo by thr , e lengths ; I.alf a length between the sec,rid and third. The Welter Stakes of 2 sOVP. each, with 20 added ; 12 , i each, w ith allowances and perial;ice ; gut Vetoer) rid, re; profeswionale, 71b ex. ra. O. e mile and a half. 3-& r. Mr. Ed,,n's Antic. 124 71n (inn 7 h ex.) (Ni7btingall) Mr. P. Barling's Flat ca•ch, r. 114 7th (Mr. E , 1 ,, ari1,) 2 Captain Still's The Itefor4er, 11• t 12,b (Capt. Shaw() 3 Tht•;-g---Even on 11,fwer-5 to 4 ag.t Antic. Woo by a length ; bad tbird. The Med ray Stakes of 3 :+0 , 73 each, with 25 added for 3-yr-ilds and upwaTchi. Optional at 'ling we'glit , , The second to cave his stake. Once rcund and a dic ta, c,-‘. 3 :gib,. Mr. Mellish't, Si vErtail, by ISIalco!ro, 3 yrg (COl ), 7 t 21b (Cum , anc ) 1 Mr. P. Barling'd irdrop, 5 yrs (60/ ), 8 t 015 (Flot yen) 2 Mr. I, , ingland's If.dy CvoyDgbatu, 3 yrs (60/ ), 6,t 13;b (Sowcl ) 3 Bet ing—Even on Silvertai!. Won by a 11:ngth and a half ; same distance bttwetn second and third. The wiener was not soli. The Rockingham Plate of 40 sov, (handicap). Three q larters of a mils. Mr. &rnpgon'a Inder, by lon, egad, 8 t Sib (in. 5.b ex.) (T. Sherwood) 1 Mr. Me Liffle Treaiure, 3 yr., 74 41h (Une.tarce) 2 Mr. Shrimptoh's Madame Rachel, 4 yrs, 9.t 3lb s+b extra) Mr. Elarrizm'e Uhigns, 4 yrs, 7 lib (inc. 51b ex.) (8 if) . 4 Be'tinrz—G to 4 on ILder, 3 to 1 azet Won by two lengths; bad third. Übigne ran out at the last turn. ABINGDON RACES—THURSDAY. The Craven Handicap. One mile. Scourge Lass of Richmond Hilt Five ran. The Berkshire Handicap. Two m:lor. Hay maker Little Cob ... Fearful . . 3 Six ran. Won by half s length. The Nursery Plate. Three-quarters ()fa Rara Avis Griselda ?. Linda The Ladies' Plate: Halt a mile. Barmaid L i0ca5 t e r...................................................... 2 Powder . The Borough Plate. Three-quarters of a mile. Bada•sorth Mimes . 2 Eight ran. L'LECTIOY OP L''HERIFFS. Yesterday a Common Hall of the Liverymen of the City was held at the Guildhall, for the purpose of electing she riffs for London and Middlesex. The Lord Mayor presided, supported by Sheriff and Al derman Allen, Sheriff and Alderman Lawrence, Alderman , Mechi, Alderman Carter, Alderman Wiro, Alderman Hale, Alderman Farncomh, Under-Sheriff Millard, Under- Sheriff Parker, Mr. Common Sergeant, &o. After the usual preliminaries the ft-membrancer read the list of candidates, viz., Mr. Alderman Hale, an•l Mr. Deputy Condor. Mr. T. H. Murrell, Common Councilman, proposed Mr. Deputy Condor as a fit and proper person to fill the office of sheriff. He had lived for 40 years in the City, anti had been 20 years in the Court of Common Council. Mr. Deputy Kehl)le seconded the nomination, and in doing so paid a high eulogium to the character of Mr. Conder. _ _ The aldermen loelow the chair were also nominated, but, on is show of hands, Mr. Alderman Hale and Mr. Edmund Condor were elected unanimously. The other officers wera elected, and the sheriffs elect hav ing blietly addressed the meeting, the proceedings ter unmated. - [A DVERTISKIENT.]—HoIIoway's Pills have been placed by the common consent of mankind at t he head otinternal remedies ; they save thousands annually from f dling a sacrifice to dyspepsia, dysentery, diar the t, constipation, liver complaints, ttc., a fact attested by myriadi of witnesses. No suffer rirrom scorbutic affections has ever failed to experience relief from them. 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