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IMPERIAL PA RLTA MENT. Yesterday a Court was held for the despatch of much business. The Lord Mayor left the Mansion house in full state. The avenues to the Court were crowded to excess. Crown-Office, Feb. 17, 1829. 11E3IBERS RETURNED TO SERVE IN THIS PRESENT PAR- HOUSE OF LORDS.-(LAST NIGHT.) r rias week wilt be published, in 1 vol. Svo., illustrated by numerous Engravings, A NEW SYSTEM of GEOLOGY, in JIL Which the great Revolutions of the Earth and Ani n4toi Nature are reconciled at once to Modern Science "!'d to Nacres! History. By ANDREW URE, M.D. F.R.S. • Member of the Geol. and Astron. Societies of London, &e. &c. &c. Also, in a few days, the SECOND VOLUME of Dr. AItNOTT'S ELEMENTS of PHYSICS, or Natural . Philosophy Explained. Printed for L R 0 e Brown, and Green. Longman, PCs, Or me, DR. THOMAS'S DOMESTIC MEDICINE. Svo. pike 15s. 110NIESTIC MEDICINE ; pointing out la a popular manner, free from professional terms, "° Nature, Symptoms, Causes, and Treatment of ALL DISEASES, according to the modern Improvements in Medicine, with appropriate Prescriptions in English, and a Table of the Doses suitable to different ages; including the Medical Management of Children ; forming a valuable Guide for Clergymen, heads of Families, Invalids, Travellers, &e. By ROBERT THOMAS, M.D. Author of " The Modern Practice of Physic." Printed for Thomas and George Underwood, 32, Meet street. ROYAL EXTRACT OF FLOWERS. "; extraordinary circulation of the above article, and its very general adoption by the first kaki] of Fashion, at the Toilette and in the Drawing-room, L'ive stimulated the Proprietors in an endeavour to render In delicacy of scent and fragrance, equal, if not sups to any description of Perfume for the Handkerchief. tit distilled from a c o mbination of Flowers, 9eleeted far their excelling sweetiuyis and aromatic properties, whim "e Flowers are in their fullest vigour. tt anufactured and Sold by Rig ,, e, Broekbank, and , 6P, Perfumers to his Majesty, 35, New BuLd-street, in u uttles at ) se., Ss., 55., and 3s. bd. Ile PERSIAN BOUQUET is also recommended to the '°t l (''e of the Nobility and Gentry, as a pleasing, very awl anrable Pei fume. CHEVALIER RUSPINI'S TINCTURE. AT this severe and inclement season of the year, when the Teeth and Gums become affected by T", the daily use of the Chevalier Ruspini's Astringent incture will he found most efficacious ; the great pa 44)age this Preparation has received for upwards of half qutur y from the Royal Family, the Nobility and Gentry, kili • best attest their virtues. To be had of Messrs. 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The Cayenne Lozenge has been found of great utility to I tkia Persons all are frequently in the habit of speaking in ; they may therefore be adrantageouslyt aken in the 4 stnaia,, et the Bar, and in the Pulpit, and the highest t e , titnAmY in the Mnaical World has been advanced in their favour, espatia'ly in those case, where, from the con stant use of the voice, or tha influence of a humid at- Mospltere, the membranes have become relaxed, and dimi nished in their tone. These Lezenges are also recounnenderl as a stimulus, during Field sports ; they are refreshing and prevent sore Thro,u, Hoarseness, &c. to those who arc unaccustomed to poettre in the morning, before the dew has passed oil, 444 in moist and foggy evenings. ,Nold in Boxtss at 4 s. and 4e. 6d. by Messrs. Buller, ' 4o misN 4 , Cheapside, corner of St. Paul's; Sackville ,cet, : Princes-street, Edinburgh; Savory and c'e., 136, New Boud-street ; and the itrh.cipal Medicine ‘ , 4 1.1e.re i n th e Kingdom. 4. ' 41 - Ask for IIUTLER's CAYENNE LOZENGES.. '• WttEcK.—A trove called the George, belong :4,lr to Mr. George Harris, of Worcester, was tot a lly lost tie her pale, from Bristol, on Saturday evening, between Old .and the New Paiisage, and out at six persons on k 4 : 4 1 including a son of Mr. Harris, two only escaped. i~ h cargo on board the George, was valued at 5,000/. It 4 1 'eared that very little of it will be recovered, as the vessel total wreck; three houses in Worcester, in the ,e ery line, will sustain losses to the amount of upwards 5 404 • I . I . I3 IIILoSOPHY OF VATN4SZe -,- The London y o ."hly Review, in an entertaining article on Embon !4l, after citing many curious cases of corpulency, which nut to be found in the commentaries of the humorous Wadd, observes, that a butcher's calling' promotes, in a , -I nalicable degree, the formation of fat; " but not only litte butchers themselves fat, but their wives and their ;' l( lren also ; all from the same cause, namely, the in lion of of the volatile ' particles of :reeent flesh, or other;,"' words,. grom the smell of meat. A very :*l2l bread deg was confined in a spacious cage, and ird and water for three ninnths. Around the k j l e, la rge pieces o f be e f were hung, which the animal could ZOter reach nor see. These were changed as soon as they tr wed to give out those peculiar effluvia which distinguished 64=4, of a recently slaughtered ox. At the end of the i t iliazkaintioned period, the dog looked plump, and had egnsiderably iu weight. At first the animal was N and ill.humourrd ; but the daily caresses of his reconailed it to its captivity, and the result of the tritneut Proved the accuracy of our assertion. Here, t it' ee . lried7 against leanness." - SWEARING IN OF ALDERMAN COPELAND. Soon after the Court had met the doors were thrown open for the introduction of Alderman Cope land, and such a rush was never made at the dobrs . of the Court before. The Alderman was introduced by Sir WILLIAM RAWLINGS, one of the Deputies of the Ward, who addressed the Court at some length on the qualifica tions of the individual appointed by the Ward of Bishopsgate to fill the office of Magistrate of the city of London. Alderman Copeland then. took the oaths and his seat, and strangers were ordered to withdraw. MR. NVILDE AND MR. WINCHESTER. One of the notices was to take into consideration the direction from the Court of King's Bench rela tive to the interminable point of dispute between Mr. Wilde and 'Mr. Wincheateco.L • It was proposed by Aldermen Lucas, Farebrother, and others, that Mr. Winchester' should be: sworn in ; and it was stated by them that the Lord,Chief. Justice of the 'King's Bench had decided in favour of Mr. Winchester, a circumstance which fortified them in the opinions they had formed of the merits of the case. The Chief Justice had completeltne gatived the law of Mr. Wilde's advocates, .tad, merely as a preliminary to the swearing, intimated that a scrutiny should be taken. It was argued by Aldermen Atkins, Waithman, Laurie, and others, that the Court would not be justified in swearing in Mr. Winchester until the scrutiny should have been accomplished ; and they referred to the law authorities upon this subject. The Common-Sergeant and the Recorder were decidedly of opinion that the Court could not swear in either party until the scrutiny should have been perfected. After - some deliberation it was determined that the scrutiny should be left to an arbitrator. The question is by no means likely to be settled. If the matter depend upon a scrutiny there can be no decision because the number of accepted and legal votes are exactly the same on both sides. MEETING AT LAMBETH PARISH. THE SURREY ROADS. A numerous meeting of the principal inhabitants of Lambeth was held yesterday, at the Boys' School house, Lambeth, for the purpose of coming to some speedy conclusion as to what was best to be done to uphold the necessary lighting and watching of the parish. The Chairman, in answer to various questions; said it was intended to carry a Bill in Parliament, authorizing a' ate on the inhabitants of the principal line of roads and the streets in direct connexion with them ; and that the expellee of the bill would of course fall on such inhabitants. The present trustees had obtained their trust for seven years, although their application was for 21 years. The trust had been continued since the 9th of Geo. 11., and the first lighting and watching arose from a Peer being robbed on his way to the House of Lords, the horses having been even taken from his carriage. It was necessary the parish should come to an im mediate resolution. Mr. CoI.LINGIt, Mr. LIFTMEP and the CHAIRMAN, spoke of the present dreadful state of eirgtf . in Lambeth, and said it would be better to light and watch the parish generally. This proposition appeared to meet with the geme ral approbation of the meeting. A question of amendment was about to be carried for the purpose of a general meeting being called, but it being discovered that if the petition for the Bill in Parliament was not taken up by Friday next, the parish would be too late, and consequently without any power for lighting and watching, it was abandoned. IL was then moved, seconded, and agreed to, that a petition to the House of Commons be upn the instant drawn up and presented. SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE. LIVERPOOL. MONDAY, FEBRUARY 16.--Wind S. W. i;l1 water 26 minutes past nine.—Arrived the Rover, Penn, from Bahia ; Plato, Dimmock, from Charl,,too ; William Byrnes, Thompson, from: New York; and Ann, Smith, from New Orleans; Fame, 'f I .1 m pun, from Savannah ; Comet, Rivett, from Messina; Triton, Yqvartica, from Santander; Li Clela, --, from Bilboa • City of Waterford, , from Waterford ; Esther,. —, from Yarmouth ; Mary Catherine, —, from Charleston, off. Sailed—The Belem Castle, Wharton, for Lisbon ; Ellen Clare, Roberts, foi• Genoa and Leghorn ; New York, Bennett, for New York ; Tamerlane, , for Wiscasset ; Aurora, Wagger, for Antwerp ; Phenix, Mounsey, for Demerara; Martha, Snow, for Mobile ; Canova, —, for New Orleans. BRITISH EXPORTS. Statement of the Quantities of the under-mentioned Arti cles of British Manufacture Exported from Liverpool, from the 6th to the 13th inst. inclusive. Cotton 110,063 Pieces. 1,337,696 Yards. Linen Blanketing Carpeting - ••• 4,411 ... Calicoes Kerseymeres - Flannel Woollen Stuff, Worsted Stuffs 6,122 ... Baize Inlet ior Woollens 1,722 ... C6tton Thread 5,1841b5. Cotton Tarn Sail Cloth Cotton Hose Cotton Handkercl, i els Cotton Braces Worsted Caps Hardware £12,179 Earthenware £3,773 Salt; White 198,602 Bush. Salt, Rock 22,640 ... Coati 430 Tons, 0 Cwt. 0 Chal Iron - 232' .... 18 ... 231 Ends. 99 ... 1,267 ... 3,-515 Ells. .113 ... CATTLE. An Account of Cattle imported into Liverpool from the 9th to the 14th inst., both days included. • Cows Calves Sheep Pigs Horses Mules 515 15 1,776 3,06 6 COTTON WOOL. LIST OF IMPORTS AND IMPORTS. IMPORTED. EX POR rico. —.A.--.., e --..---a...--..., ISame pc- Previous. This rind last 1) this year. year. year. —.— —..........................— ags, &c. flags, &c. Bags, &c. Bags, &c. 05,372 58,473 I 791 2,918 6,809 2,735 110 966 3,638 6,280 Is 7 d in 1829 5,002. B ags , &c. - Liverpool 105,872 London 6,809 3,638 61"5"w Total exported in it Same period IS:28 5,002. 4,960. There has not been a single felony committed during the night at Salisbury since the system of watch and ward has been instituted. Mr. Chaffer, a publican at Thaxted, was ac cidentally shot by his brother, on Saturday last, who was Carrying a fowling-piece under his arm. The charge en tered the side , of the unfortunate man, who is not likely to survive.—Essex Herald. LIA3IENT. Borough of Whitchurch. The Non. John Robert Townshend. Borough of Plymouth. The Right Hon. Sir George Cockburn, a 'Vice-Admiral of his Majesty's Navy, G.C.B. City of Bath. The Earl of Brecknock. Major-Gen. Charles Palmer, one or other of them. Borough of East Grinstead. The Right Honourable William Pitt Amherst, com monly called Lord Viscount Hohnesdale, in the room of the Honourable Charles Cecil Cope Jenkinson, now Earl of Liverpool, one of the Peers of the United Kingdom' of Great Britain and Ireland. Office of Ordnance, Feb. 16. Royal Regiment of Artillery. Captain George Birch, from unattached half-pay, to be Record Captain r vke Browne, retired on half-pay. Dated Feb. 9. Commission signed by the Lord Lieutenant of the county of Somerset. James Talbot, Esq. to be Deputy Lieutenant. Jan. 1. Commission in the Royal South Gloucester Light Infantry _ Regiment of Militia, signed by the Lord Lieutenant•of the County of Gloucester. _ _ _ Wintour Harris, Gent. to be Ensign, vice Witberbv, promoted. Nov. 29. Whitehall, Feb. 7. The Lord Chancellor has appointed John Shields, of Ripon, iu the county of York, Gent. to be a Master Extra ordinary in the High Court of Chancery. Whitehall, Feb. 1&. The Lord Chancellor has appinted George Augustus Apreece Davies, Cuckhowell, in' the county of Brecon, Gent. to be Master Extraordinary in the High Court of - Chancery, BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED. Jas. Wright, Ashton-Under-Lyne, cotton-manufacturer. BANKRUPTS. Henry William Parkes, Commercial-road, Pimlico, spirit-merchant, Feb. 24, at twelve, March 6, at eleven, and 31, at one, at the Court of Commissioners. Hen son, tipper Stamford-street, Blackfriars. William Hall, 011erton, Nottinghamshire, grocer, March 2,3, awl 31, at twelve, at the White Lion Inn, Notting ham. Hurd and Johnson, King's-Bench-Walk, Londoh ; Grcasley, Nottinghain. John Grcenwoud, Marsden, Lancashire, calico-manu- factarer, March 3, 4, and 31, at two, at the Palace-inn, Manchester. Hadfield and Grave, Manchester; Ellis, Walmsley, and Gorton, Chancery-lane. John Appleton, Mansell-street, Goodman's-fields, wine merchant, Feb. 20, March 3, and 31, at one, at the Court of Commissioners. Evitt, Price, and Lucas, Ilaydon square. Thomas Boulton, Painters-court, Bury-street, West minster, tailor, Feb. 20, 27, at twelve, and March 31, at eleven, at the Court of Commissioners. Wood, Richmond buildings, Soho. William Green, Sheffield, saw-manufacturer, Feb. 24, 25, and March 31, at eleven, at the offices of . Mr. Henry Broomhead, Sheffield. Duncan, Holborn-court, Gray's inn ; Broonahead, Sheffield. Robert Stabler, Leeds, chemist, Feb. 23, at seven, 24, at nine, and March 31, at eleven, at the Beverley Arms Inn, Beverley, York. Ellis, Wahnsley, and Gorton, Chancery-lane ; lila% Campbell, and Son, Beverley ; Scotch burn,- Driffield. Daniel Pawiett, Nottingham, grocer, March S, 5, and 31, at eleven, at the May-Pole Inn, Nottingham. Gre gory, Clement'* Inn, London; Wise and Eddowes, Nottingham. DIVIDIiNDS. James Gosling, Booking, Essex, spirit-merchant, March 7, at eleven, at the Court of Commissioners. John Wood, Nelson-Nquare, Surrey, jeweller, Feb. 27, at eleven, at the Court of Commissioners. Walter Elphiek, West-ham, Sussex, farmer, March 10, “t ten, at the Court of Commissioners. John Mitre)), Bridgetown, Devon, ironmonger, March 12, at twelve, at the Somerset Arms Inn, Bridgetown. Henry Frederick Coley, Broad-street, wine -merchant, March 17, at one, at the Court of Commissioners. William Hobbs, Bristol, druggist, March 13, at one, at the Commercial-rooms, Bristol. Samuel Inns, Towcester, Northampton, ironmonger, March 20, at eleven, at the 'Royal hotel, Birmingham. Henry Alackril, Whitechapel, chemist, March 10, at twelve, at the Court or Commissioners, Peter Juhn Delanney, Regent-street, jeweller, ALifeh 10, at eleven, at the Court of Commissioners. James Brown and John Thompson, Fenchurch•street, merchants, Alareh 10, at eleven, at the Court ut Coin- Henry 'fehbutt, Stamford, Lincolnshire, grocer, .larch 19, at ten, at the Crown Inn, Stamford. William Goodall and John 13irchinall, Titherington, Macclesfield, cotton-spinners, March 13, at ten, at the Macclesfield Arms Inn, Macclesfield. William Aahwin , Recklitch, Worcestershire, grocer, March 11, at eleven, at the Swan ltal, Alce,ter, Warwick shire.. CERTIFICATES.—Msacn 10. Ann Constantine, Bolton-k-Moors, Lancaster, draper. Henry Meyer, Red Lion-square, artist. Alonzo Clark, Saint Mary-at-Hill, coal-factor. Thomas Young, Threadneedle -street, builder. PARTNERSiIIPS DISSOLVED. Benjamin John Armstrong and Thomas Brieley, hat ton-wall, colourmen. Thomas Oyler and Charles Burt, Cranbrook, Kent, . _ bricklayers. Isaac Chadwick, and J. Porritt, Bury, Lancaster, wool len-drapers. David Crosweller, sen. and David Crosweller, jun., Kennington-green, Surrey, builders. William Brewster and George Brewster,' Nottingham, drapers. Arthur Pink, jun., and William Wilkinson, Portsea, brewers. William Henry Kerr and William Ashmead, Duke street, Grosvenor-square, booksellers. Josiah Graham Lowe, Catherine Lowe, Sarah Lowe, and Ann Lowe, Goldsmith-street, silk-manufacturers. John Day and Joseph Armitage, Birmingham, brass , founders. A. S. Mawdsley and L. Marsden, Ortnskirk, Lancaster, wine-merchants. Thomas Owen and Matthew Ellis, Sheffield, York, haft and scale-pressers. Richard Ainsworth, Peter Ainsworth, J. H. Ainsworth, and John Ritchie, Gilnow, Lancashire, bleachers. William N. Clay and John Holmes, Liverpool, wine and spirit merchants. John Casson and Thomas Jackson, Birkenhead, Chester, blacksmiths. Thomas Cole, Michael Holder, and Edward Martin Cole, Bristol, linen-merchants. Thomas Needham, jun. and Edward Baker, Hinckley Leicester, wine merchants. William Smith and John Jarvis, Lincoln-hill, Salop, lime-burners. James Bevan, Samuel Bevan, and Bentley Bevan, Sta) ley-bridge, cabinet-makers. William Shackles and Thomas Hilton Shackles, Kings ton-upon-Hull, linen-drapers. Gabriel Duclos, Ferdinand Caron, and John Leavers, Nottingham, lace-manufacturers. John Leigh, Bridget Anne Griffin, and Elizabeth Griffin, Consall, Cheddleton, Staffordshire, flint-grinders. John Combridge and George Cambridge, Cobham-row, Clerkenwell, butchers. Peter Edwards and Thomas Wadley, Liverpool. Thomas Reed and David Curtis, George-street, Old Montague-street, Whitechapel-road, bent timber-manu facturers. The sales of Cotton on Monday at Liverpool amounted to about 1200 bags, chiefly at last Saturday's currency. B UTTER TRADE.—Some considerable failures have taken place in Dorset and Somersetshire among the butter factors, in consequence of their speculations for a rise in the article having turned . out unfortunate. The Lour) CHANCELLOI2 took his seat ut five minutes past Five o'clock. Lord TALBOT presented four petitions from Lichfield and other parishes in Stafford, against further conotssions to the Roman Catholics. The Duke of WELLINGTON presented a petition' signed by the Roman . Catholic inhabitants of several pa rishes in Ireland, praying for the removal of their disabilities. The Bishop of EXETER presented a petition from Exeter, and one from the Clergy of the Arehdeaeonry of Totness, against any further concessions to the Roman Catholics. The Bishop of DURHAM presented a petition from the inhabitants of South Shields, and from the Archdea conry of Hereford, against further concessions to the Ca tholics. ' Essi , FITZ WILLIAM presented petitions from the - TlO - Catholics, inlisabltants of Tuam (Corry), a parish in. Waterford, Carbury, Claymore, and from a parish in the county of Wexford, in favour of the Roman Cethuhes. A Noble Lord presented three petitions from parishes in the county of Somerset, against further concessions. Lord LORTON presented a petition from Kihnore, in the :county of Sligo, against further concession, and one from Carrickshannon, Kiltopher, and 13illmasloe, to the same effect. The Marquis of TIIONIOND presented three petitions from parishes in Ireland, against the Catholics. Lord BEAUCHAAIP presented a petition from the in habitants of the city and county of Worcester, signed by 5,822 persons, against further concessions. Lord LYTTLETON said that this petition had been re presented as though it had been from the county of Wm ces ter. That certain persons of great respectability signed the petition was strictly true; but he believed that no one person of considerable rank and property in the county had lent his name to it. The petition was not a petition from the county of Worcester in the ordinary sense of the word—no meeting having been called by the Sheriff. It was originated only by a few individuals, and went only tnexpress their individual sentiments—not those of the county at large. Lord BEAUCHAMP said that the petition was signed by almost all the Clergy of the city and county. It was also signed by 40 resident magistrates, and by 5,742 most respectable individuals. (Laughter.) His Lordship then presented another petition from the borough of Bewdley to the same effect, signed also by a great number of the most respectable inhabitants. The Noble Earl concluded by moving that the petition from the city and county of Worcester be read at length, which was accordingly done. Lord FALMOUTH presented three petitions, signed by 1700 inhabitants and freeholders of the county of Cornwall, and one froM Truro, against any further conces sions to the Roman Catholics. The Noble Earl, who had presented ezunter petitions on a former day, had said , ;that he believed the majority of freeholders in this county were in favour of the Roman Catholics; but that appeared to - him to be altogether contrary to the fact, from what he could collect from the petitions 'that had been sent to him. The Noble Earl had inferred, from the return of Mr. Pendarves fur the county of Corn wall, :who was, he said, a Reforiner, and a friend to the Catluili‘Ohat the" county of Croinwill was flimirabe - in . the Catholics. He would beg, in reply, to state, that many of the names to the petitions he had then the honour to present to their Lordships were the names of persons who bad supported Mr. Pendcrves. The other point was the majorities in Parliament. The Noble Earl had drawn an inference from the votes in Parliament that the Catholic Question was gaining ground in the country. But the Noble Earl forgot that in the House of Lords the majority against the Catholics in 1812 was only 1 ; and instead of this having decreased, the majority against them last year was 45. This, it would be recollected also, was after several Peers had been recently created, most of whom were favourable to the consideration of the Catholic Claims. Notwithstanding that the majority was so much greater, there was all the dif ference between one and forty-five. The Noble Earl had said there was a choice of evils, and that the breaking up of the Government - would be roost incon venient. This was true, but though thanks were due to those by whom the present state of things have been brought about, and he thought though it would be a great evil to break up the Government at the head of which the Noble Duke was, yet that evil would be much less than the yielding up of the Protestant ascendancy in Church and State. To prevent the breaking up of the noble Duke's Govern ment, he could not consent to the sacrifice of the princi ples upon which that government was founded. . When the ship had struck against the rock - were their Lordships to look at the mast or rudder merely, or were they not earnestly to look at the saving of tie ship ? and was it to he doubted, if they did so, that she would right again, and steer safely into port? Something had been said in the course of their Lordships' debates about intimidation, and the accusations of this sort the Noble Duke bad indignantly repelled. He understood intimida tion to - mean this : one man is told by another not to do a thing, and he,says he will do it ; the other says he shall not do it, but the person ordered not to do a thing, does it in spite of the command, and what he does is acquiesced in. The Noble Duke said he did net act from fear. To him (the Eat I of Falmouth) the case appeared as if a man were to meet him in the street, and ask him, with threati, for something he possessed, and Ile were to say " stop a little; you lie down, or let me put you down—that was, he be lieved, the phrase of the bill—and then you Inv get up and do as you like, - and I will give you what you want." This appeared to him intimidation ; and this would, he believed, be the end of admitting the Catholics. He was afraid he had said too much ; he had said more than he in tended, but not more than lie hoped their Lordships would think he was justified in saying in presenting the petition to their Lordships. The Noble Earl presented two peti tions—one from Truro, and the other from another place in Cornwall—signed by (1,00 and 1,100 persons. -A. Earl GREY was undemood - fO say, that he was not aware that the Noble Earl meant to make any observations on what had fallen from him, or he should have come .prepared to reply, and he was understood to complain of some want of courtesy on the part of the Noble Earl ; but the first sentence spoken by the Noble Earl was not dis tilled)? - audible below the bar. He went on to observe, that he was not accustomed to go back from any principles he had stated its that House, and was generally prepared to defend what he bad said, even at a distant period ; but if be bad known that the Noble Earl intended to refer to the subject - he had alluded to, he should have taken care to come prepared to state more in detail than he could then do the' reasons for the opinions attacked by the Noble Lord. In the first place, the Noble Earl had referred to what he bad stated about the county of Cornwall, and the Noble-Earl seemed to suppose that he had asserted, from the election of Mr. Pendarves, that the county was fa vourable to the Catholic Claims. If he recollected right, what he had stated was, that the return of Mr. Pendarves to the last Parliament on the popular interest, who was known to be a friend to Parliamentary Reform and favour able to the Catholic Claims, proved that the county of Cornwall was not so completely opposed to the Catholic Claims as the Noble Earl had represented it. The • Noble Earl has stated that this inference was incorrect, and that there was no opposition. This made the case stronger. There was another candidate ; but the interest of Mr. Pendarves was so great, - though he was known to be a friend of Reform and friendly to the admission of the Catholics, that the other candidate declined going to an election. Mr. Pendarves stood so high, and so great had been the respect for him in the county, that no poll was taken. This confirmed - what he before stated, and front this - he drew the inference, that the whole population of the county of Cornwall was not so averse to the Catholic Claims as the Noble Lord had represented it. The next point to which the Noble Earl had adverted was the major rities in the Muse of Commons on the Catholic Question since 1812, and tll Noble Earl had drawn an inferenct. . . . from those majorities contrary, to what lie (Earl Grey) bad Stated as to the opinion of. the House of Commons. He had stated_ those major/dee with a view of shewing cer tainly what was the opinion, of the House of Commons, both formerly and at present, and remarking the opposition between the opinions of that House end their Lordships. The Noble Earl had spoken of the decreasing majorities of that House on this question, end had inferred that it bad not increased in favour 'with the people of England. In 1807, Ire believed-;=he did not recollect exactly, but he believed—the majority was 106, while in 1827 it was considerably less. But the Noble Earl had not adverted to the laCt that when the majority was 126. not above three hundred members had voted ; while on the Other .occasion there, were upwards of iioo, he believed nearly 600, Members voted. This, then, was a strong progf of how the House of Cotmuons felt on the Catholic Question, and he inferred from that, although he admitted that he thought the other House of Parliament might be improved, and that a refOrm in it to a certain extent was necessary, yet he never had thought that it was not, even as now constituted, materially influenced >ay the opinions of the people ; and thinking so, he thought its votes on this question might be taken as a representation of, the opinions of the country. He did not suppown...theirLord ships to he influenced in the Same degree as the -7 '4er branch of the Legislature, and the Noble Lord had quoted . the majority of 1812, which was one, and .he majority the last time the question was brought forward, which was forty-five, against the question ; and the Noble Lord had adverted to the introduction into their Lordships' House of some new Peers favourably disposed to the Catholics, and had drawn the inference that the cause was now less fa vourably received by their Lordships than formerly. The Noble Lord had forgotten, apparently, that between 1827 and 1807, nearly sixty new Peers had been created, most of whom were unfavourable to the Catholics, and if this increase were taken into consideration, it would appear that the - oppoaition to the Catholics had not increased, but de creased. He was reminded, too, that the majority of the Peers created in 1827 was not in favour of the Catholics ; so that the inference of the Noble Earl was drawn from a statement that was not correct. He would not make any further remarks on what had fallen from the Noble Earl with respect to himself; but he would make a few re marks on what the Noble Earl had said with respect to the great question he had referred to, though he would not enter into the merits of thit question. He had no doubt that his wishes and those of the Noble Earl, with respect to preierving and maintaining our Constitution, were pre cisely the same ; they only differed as to 'the means by which that Constitution was to be preierved. (Hear, hear.)—The Noble Earl thought that the only means of maintaining it would be to refuse any concessions to the Catholics. He (Earl Grey) thought the only means of securing that Constitution was to grant concessions to the Catholics with a liberal and conciliating spirit, such as would calm and satisfy the people of Ireland, and put an end to tho'se agitations and disturbances which new endan gered the Constitution. The NOble Earl, at the conclusion of his speech, had used a Cornish metaphor, and had talked of the vessel of the State, and its masts, and its rudder, and its hull; but that was the first time that he (Earl Grey) had ever heard the laws, which were applicable to the wreck ing of vessels, adduced as an argument against relieving the Catholics from their disabilities.—(Hear, bear, and .a laugh.)—lf he had been disposed to use a metaphor of that kind, he should rather have described the vessel of the State as driving on a dangerous shoal or rock, and the laws against the Catholics as resembling some of its entangled rigging and shattered masts, that they must cut away in order to save the; vessel.—( Hear, bear.)—He would ask the Noble Earl, if such was the situation of the veleta as he described, if she were driving in danger, if he thought she would be saved by promoting divisions and distraction among the crew ?—(Hear, hear.)—Would it not be wiser and safer to give all hands an interest in saving the vessel, and cheer them on, by kindness and conciliation, to the great and , noble task ?—( Hear, hear. )- . --The Noble Lord was aware of the evils which awaited' item, and he would look well to the consequence of his opposition ; lie would weigh well, before he proceeded, the consequence of success The Noble Lord must be aware that if his opposition to the Bill were successful, that would, most likely, put an end to the Noble Duke's Admi nistration, than which he (Earl Grey) believed no greater evil could befall the country ; none more likely to bring the Constitution into danger. This was one of the consequences which might ensue from the Noble Earl's opposition. He would ask tire Noble Earl, if the present Administration was to be dissolved, Where he would then find another to carry on the Government of the country? It was not possible to find such a Ministry not bound to cart y the Catholic Question. It was not possible._ (Hear.) It was not possible to find any man so bold as to undertake to conduct the Government and preserve the Constitution, if the Question were not settled. (Hear.) Let the Noble Earl louts, also, at the consequences of disappointing seven millions of people, long irritated, long oppressed, full of dis content at hopes being frustrated—let hint consider the consequences when their hopes had now been raised, when their expectations had been excited—let him consider the consequences of that people, driven to despair by the rejection of that Bill for which they were so anxiously looking. (Cheers.) Let him look at all the consequences, and Ile wi'l seriously consider before he pursues his opposi tion. He had been surprised, he had never felt greater surprise indeed in his life, than at some opinions which had been delivered in that House; but of these he should speak ' hereafter. Ile had only wished to vindicate himself from some of the observations of the Noble Earl, and in doing that, he had been led to make some remarks on the incene ceiVable degree of faith placed by the Noble Earl and some other Noble Lords in the course by which they hoped to obtain their ends.—(Hear.) The Earl of FALMOUTH wished to say a few words in explanation. In answer to the Noble Lord's statement that he (Lord Falmouth) had spoken after three days' de liberation, he could only say that he had seized the first opportunity of delivering his sentiments. Saturday and Sunday had intervened since the delivery of the Noble Earl's speech, and on last night he (Lord Falmouth) had been prevented from coming down to the Hope, Ile would have answered the Noble Earl on Friday night, but for the exhausted state of the house at the time. In the observations which be had made on the Noble Earl's speech he conceived that he had only discharged his duty; and this he would say, that he had never heard a more uncon stitutional principle than that of acting under a fear of breaking .up the present administration. He could not fee his part, as a Peer of Parliament, subscribe to sych an un constitutional principle. Earl GREY said that a blind insensibility to conse quences in adopting a course of conduct, when dangers pressed upon us, was not wise, and could not be justified upon any principle. Any man of common sense, whea he saw danger approaching, would consider what was best to be done in order to avert it. And this remark brought him to the subject of intimitletion which had been so much insisted upon by some Noble Lords. The pro posers of the present measures were accused of fear.— Fear there unquestionably was, but it was an honest and a just fear, originating in wisdom, and directed to the preservation and safety of the country. (Hear, bear.) If Ministers saw that tire pursuing a certain course would be pregnant with great dangers to the country, they acted upon a sound fear in deviating from that course, and it was the duty, not only of every statesman, but of every man of common sense, to fear such dangers, and to endeavour to avert them. (Hear.) It was the condition of mortality that they should be all subjects to dangers, and thc great principle of self-preservation impelled them to, provide against and prevent such dangers. That was the rule by direct his conduct in re f‘evrheincche etvoertyhesct4)tuennan gl t n cyinw rn h u o l4 ae councils he took a part ; and when he. saw That it perseverance in the course would produce great evils to the state, it would be his duty to cake another course, in orier to obviate those evils. (Hear.) The Noble Lord had talked of fear: he (Lord Grey) was not ashamed to say that he was possessed of feat:, end' that that fear directed his conduct in refeeeoce to this question. He was not ashamed to say that be was afraid to leave Ireland in the state in whicili she was at present, rind ,haft upon that principle he was determined to give his cordial support and gratitude to the )Ministers who were adopting at length measures of tardy, but, he trusted, effectual, justice towards that unfortunate country.—(Hear.) The Duke of WELLINGTON said,, after What has passed I should have thought that I would have heard no more on the subject of intimidation ; and I should n,n4 have thought it necessary to address yorir tardehips a second time on that subject, had it net been for the manlier in which_ the Noble Lerd has presented this petition. As I uuderatuod the Noble Lord r he saitl 3 with respect t® . . • • . . . the Catholic question, we stand in the way, that is to say. it' von give us leave to knock yoti down, We will afterwards deliver up all tha cis ne; s sary for the security of the Constitution of that country. Now, I beg to assure the Noble Lord, that in reso , ,t to bargain or cuntattnication of any sort, his. Mtj sty's servants have made none. His Majesty's servants have come forward to perform their duty on their awn resp.Msibhity, under a sense of what was due to the country, and necessiry for the peace and tranquillity of the state., —(Hear, hear.)—The Noble Lord has both on this and on a fOrmer night discussed the majorities found as well in the House of Commons as in this House, at dif2 fercnt periods during the last twenty years upon this ques tion. I will not follow him through those calculations,' though I must say I think he should have borne in mind the great majorlties by which this question had been fro: quench' carried in the other House, and he should, in par ticular, have considered the very large majority which ap; peared in the Commons in favour of the consideration of this question in 1812. The NOble Lord should have con sidered that up . to last year, and by their last votes, the . House of Commons was opposed in this . House on this question,—the majority of the House of Commons' being of one- way of thitiVog,:nd the majority in tins House of Lords being of another way of thinking; My Lords, it was with this state:of things .bef.re me; that I was to coine forward this Session . of Parlia ment and communicate with you and the other House upon the state of Irish affairs: now I, beg your' Lordships to consider, that being the state of Paz - 14604kt, held bov one ee opinion.G o Government stood. the tiozdu.se ofT 61, I d r :i t :trod? e f r, C av o tle n ons the Government had no opinion at Hear, bear.). 7 -Is ; not this a state of things to attract the serious cons sideration of Government,. without being accused of any thing like fear or apprehension ? I say I could_ not tai • into consideration in the Cabinet .any question resp&cting the state of Ireland, which was , not in ,sorne manner qr other influenced' IT the stafe of thell, hot' pCatholics of Irelan!. The state in which the (ItstiotL stood both. is this Hotise autlin the other House of Por 'lament, was one of the evils I and my colleagues had to take into our most serioti4 considetation,.. we mine on purpose to give . our adVice to hrs. .Majesty on the subject. Now if the Noble Lord will look at the difficulties of the question, not. only in. that part of the empire but in this, 'if he will look bow we stood in Par- . liament as well as in Council, he must see roans , reasons for the decision to which we came, besides the unworthy motives he attributes to us. He (the Duke of Welling ton) would say this, that it required more firmness of cha racter in his Right Hon. Friend in the other house to come forward as a Minister of this country, ithandori opinions which he had hitherto maintained, and - to urge upon Parliathent the adoption of this measure, to which he had been always opposed,—to abandon, as it were, his political existence in order to urge on Parliament thitt measure,—it required, he repeated, more firmness of cha net& on the part of his Right Hon. Friend to do 'that, thin to adhere to his old and long-cherished'opinions on the subject —(Hear.)lt. required, he would again say; more firmness of character in his Right Hon. Frieral to cast away all his former notions, and to follow new opinions,' when be conceived that their adoption Was absolutely ne cesstry for the benefit of the Constitution and the security' of the State, than to have continued in that manse for de viating from which he had subjected himself to time attacks Of the Noble Lord. He (thb Duke of Wellington) begged pardon for having a second time trespassed on the patience of their Lordships on this subject; but a charge so urtzt worthy and so unjust against any set of men as that which had been preferred by the Noble Lord against his Majesty'4 Ministers, he could rot suffer to pass Unnoticed or without contradiction.—(Hear.) ACT FOR THE SUPPRESSION OF THE IRISH CATHOLIC ASSOCIATION. Sir A. GRANT and others brought up an Act for the Suppression of Dangerous Societies or Ass.ciations in lie land. The Duke of WELLINGTON moved the. first reading of it,' that it should be• printed, and gave notice that he should move the second reading of it on Thursday next, the House being to summoned. CATHOLIC QUESTION. The Duke of NEWCASTLE, on presenting a petition from Halifax agenst any concession to the Roman Catho-' lies, said he hoped that as the Noble Duke at the head-of the Government bad not as yet given any satisfactory ex planation of the ulterior design he had in view respecting the admission of the Catholics to political power, be would then see 'the expediency of favouring the House with an exposition of the particular nature of that design—whether it was intended — toetevest-Partiament orthe - Government with more absolute power than they at present possessed. The country, he could tell him, was not prepared, and would not submit either to absolute power or military rule ; it was therefore to be hoped that the ulterior Niews of Ministers would be soon made public as a guide to the expressions of public iteliug, He could not atfach much weight to the alleged difficulties of the Noble Duke in ma naging a cabinet divided on the Catholic question, for he knew the Noble Duke was perfectly absolute in the cabinet, and that he had only to say sic cob°, sic jubeo, stet pro raiione volentas, and his will was implicitly obeyed. Neither could he feel the force of the alleged sacrifices made in favour of the Protestant cause, when he consi dered that the sacrifice would be truly of the Protestants if the Catholics were admitted to power. [Owing to the pressure of the crowd and the Noble Duke's having spoken in a low tone of voice, he was not distinctly audible be low the bar.] • _ _ The Marepois CAMDEN could not help advising the Noble Duke (Wellington) not to answer every einestion which Noble Lords might indulge thems(dves in putting to him—the rather, as he and his colleagues in the Govern ment had shown themselves sufficiently ready to take the responsibility of the measures they ii_)t it their duty to bring before Parliament on their own shoulders. He was aware that it was inconvenient to trespass much on the time of the House on the presenting of petitions; but still hoped that he might be permitted in a very few words to express his opinion on measures which he rejoiced were in harmony with the sentiments he had long invariably enter tained on the Catholic Question. He had lon thought, that to be successful and beneficial, a meastiv, of relief of the Catholics should emanate from the Government; and therefore felt it to be a matter of conratulation that the time was come when Ministers, after deep consideration; and some of them in the teeth q# long-cherished opinions, felt it to be their duty to obtain the sanction of the Crown for such a measure. On this occasion he knew not welt how to express his• high admiratiOn of the great firmness and high spirit and dignified conduct of a Right Hon. Gentleman, a Member of the other House of Parliametit, who manfully came forward, at the sacrifice, too, of per sonal feelings and of private ties, as the ailvocate of mea sures which he (Lord Caulden) firmly believed wonld be honourable to himself and most useful to the conntry.— (Cbeers.)—The Noble Lord expressed his beli c f that he then for the Rest time could congratulate the e..ountry with the best founded hopes of success, on a s;Stern of policy which he had long advocated, and which. 'tie thought would put an end to all jealousy and disunion between Catholics and Protestants. L Hou o se r:l a l: 1 11. 1 11 i = FALMOUTH l a 7d been (uest 20 years iont ot e a Governmentlle liber of u th t i a l t; that a few evenings ago ; -not but he thought there was no thint.3 irregular in aufNoble.Lord seeking froni'the proper source for information on any important subject that had deeply engaged his attention. The Earl of DARNLEY was convinced that the more the question of Emancipation was discussed, the more it would prosper in public opinion. Indeed, he was sure that if he had occasion, and he was happy he should not, next year to present a petition in favour of the Catholics similar to that he had presented a few evenings ago from the county of Kent, it would have more than deehie the number of signatures. It was, s t range, to say the lea'st of it, in some Noble Lords, to, impute to his Noble Friend at the head of the Government a wish to intimidate, or to charge Ministers with having been intimidated, when the whole entuluct of those Noble Lords was one of intimida tion and threat to appeal to the apprehensions and preju dices of tho country. He (Lord Darnley) was old enough to remember the proceedings of 2780, when a similar -ap peal was made, which, owiag to the people then being much less enlightened than they were at present, was pro ductive of much niu,ee mischievous consequences. But such _an-appeal we,uld Mil now, because the people were progres 7 sing in knowledge. If they were not so, and were as wr i •ant as their predecessors, another fire in London would not be the improbable result of the narrow-winded ir.Ram matory appeals that b.ael been lately made to their worst feelings and prejudic-es. The Duke of NEWCASTLE presented a petition against the Catholic claims from an individual named Joseph Morris, a bookseller and printer, in Shrewsbury. On the motion that it he printed, Lord HOLLAND observed, that it was not usual to print petitions frana individuals. It was, moreover, unre ces-ary the present case; for the petitioner, boring Lire -43,l a printer, could give his sentinient i sufficient city.—(A laugh.) Th e Duke C;f NEWCASTLE presented ten other peti— tions from digcrent places in Nottinghamshire, also aguinst Cutholie Lroancipation. 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