The Sun. — London, England, 1829-12-17 00:00:00

difficulty in obtaining a ruffian, for two or three guineas a week, to expose his person to all who might choose to consider a conflict of this kind any satisfaction for the , injury they sustained. We are sorry to perceive the mistake into which an esteemed Northern Contemporary lately fell, in supposing that.the morality of the Press could be improved by appeals of this nature. Ex perience is quite the_ other way. Those who possess real merit are not the most likely to have recourse to moral assassination ; and as mere slander and ribaldry soon exhaust themselves, and consequently lose their attraction, the pru dence of affording them the means of attracting attention by the display of personal courage is exceedingly questionable. A vulgar and im pertinent assailant may be safely left to himself; he will do himself more injury than him whom he attacks.—lbid. We cannot discover the policy or the justice either of advocating or of sacrificing the interests of one part of the community at the expense of the rest ; yet this latter is the treatment which the landed interest is now receiving at the hands of those who wish to be thought the liberal part of the Press. We are gravely told that a reduc tion of rents would be a panacea for all our grievances, while it would be a just punishment of the landed interest for the support which they gay . e to Mr. Pitt in commencing and prosecuting the war which led to the accumulation of our enormous debt, and consequent present burdens. If those who write such things are old enough to remember the periods of which they speak, they must know (or, if not, history would inform them) that such assertions are untrue. It is in vain now to travel back for a period of seven-and thirty years, to attempt to settle a point which never has been, and probably never will be, una nimously agreed upon—viz., the justice or ne cessity of the war which then commenced. But one thing is quite certain, that whatever support the measures of the then Minister met with from the landed interest, either in or out of Parliament, was at least equalled, if not surpassed, by the prominent zeal displayed by .. the moneyed and mercantile interests, whose " life and property" meetings, and whose " loyalty loans," were well enough rewarded by other loans and contracts,.to say nothing of the testimony which both the Peerage and Baro netage of that clay bear to the disinterestedness of their zeal, and the value of its reward. We say this rather to remove exclusive blame from the shoulders of one class of the community, than to place it on those of another. A sense of common danger should silence the voice of mutual crimination, even if any party was exclu sively to blame, which, at this distant period, it is probably in vain to inquire. And what is there in the relative state of the parties (the landowner and the fundhohler) which can jus tify any one in calling for the sacrifice of the one and the indemnity of the other ? It is true that the landlord has doubled, and, in many instances, more than doubled, the rents of his estate=, though we doubt whether he now finds that he has doubled their saleable value ; but has the stockholder derived no advantage, when, for every 461. which he lent the country, be can now obtain 941.; and the average of whose loans at this moment bear a premium in the market of 90 per cent.? And who, let us ask, has borne the burden and heat of the day ? We answer, the landowner, whose increased rents have scarcely enabled him, if his estate be of moderate dimensions, to retain his station in society, after having mainly contributed to pay the public creditor his dividends, and the mann facturiug as well as agricultural poor that main• tenance which devolves almost exclusively upon him. Away, then, with the cruelty, the fallacy, and the delusion, of endeavouring to throw upon one part of the community burdens which the whole must and ought to bear ! Such notions, though advanced by " liberal" heads, are most illiberal in their origin and mischievous in their consequences, and can only tend to divide and distract attention from the common danger, which shOulrbbe met by one common remedy. — Morning Herald. We really thought that we should not again have hal occasion to mention the name of O'Connell, previous to his appearance at St. Stephen's ; .but to every hell there is " a deeper still," and if we may judge from the accounts which have reached us from the sister island, the great Agitator has determined to fall by degrees, and not to grace the brows of the " Collective" only with an exposure of his insignificance.— The answer put forth by Mr. O'Connell, on the question of huxterina with the Beresfords for a larger fee, in order to bring them in for the - county of Waterford, was a choice morsel of special pleading ; but the upshot of the extra ordinary meeting of the Finance Committee of the defunct Catholic Association on Friday last, was a gem of the first water. Mr. O'Gor man Mahon—one •of the most respectable members of the Association, and Secretary to it, while it bad being—had possessed him self, as %ve mentioned yesterday, of some of the books of the Association, with the view of writing a history of it. Mr. O'Connell demurred at an act which gave the Secretary at cne. seep nine points of the law against him, and a meeting of the Finance Committee was called for the purpose of regaining possession of tharD• We need not mention the result in any other' terms than that the Secretary still possesses the books, and does not by any means seem dis posed to give them up; but the following choice morsel of history we must give at length. Mr. Slieil and Mr. Lawless, it will be seen, acted the part of honourable men, and opposed the dicta of the great Agitator. What, it was asked, has become of the Catholic Rent, squeezed from the pockets of the poor Irish peasantry and others? this is an awkward interrogatory. Probably the Secretary's history of the Association will ex plain it, particularly if it embraces the history of the county of Clare election, and the i tems cf the expenses incurred in returning the great Liberator to Parliament. There is something also to be said respecting the mission in 1825. Would Mr. O'Connell like to have it published? —Morning Advertiser. AFFECTING MANJA.—A considerable ex citement took place at Middleton-in-Teesdale, on Monday week, in consequence of a body being found in the church yard, which at first was supposed to have been " Burked ;" bat on inquiry it proved to be the remains of a young man named ROBINSON, who died about four months ago of small pox, and whose mother in a fit of derangement had deg out of the grave, in the night of Sunday, under the delusion, that a minister, whose description of the raising of LAZA nus she had heard in the day, could oper ate in the same manner on her dead see. She had disin terred the body, but being unable to carry it away, and having been refused assistance by a neighbour to whom she A pplied, she left it exposed, and retired home. It was I:4aund in the morning, as above stated, and again consigned the earth, after the particulars had been found out, The 1,002 . woman, since the death of her son, had applied both persotially and by letter to several disenting ministers to Fe I ase her dial cut of purgatory.— York Courant. e CONINIIS'SION OF LUNACY. (Continued from our Paper of yesterday.) Mrs. Brookbanlee examination continued.—My nephew's sister Catherine went with me to the asy lum, and he was very indignant with her indeed. He called her every thing that was bad. She did not take her child with her. He called her names very improper and hurtful to her feelings; he said that he would spit in her face, only he had no spittle to spare. She had said nothing to irritate him. He had sent fix• her by a servant. The unvarying sentiment in his mind, at the interviews which I have had with him, is aversion and antipathy to his mother. I made an affidavit upon this subject when application was first made to the Lord Chancellor. When he talked of his being enlightened from God, he said he was enlightened by God's having tapped him on the shoulder. He said that it was superna tural. He added, that he knew he should be a great man, because God had tapped him on the shoulder and told him so. By Mr. BROUGHAM—I am Mrs. Bywater's sister. lam now wife to Mr. Brookbank. I was formerly wife to Mr. Ross, to whom E. Davies was appren tice. I have nothing more to tell. I would not do my nephew any harm if I could. _ Mr. BROUGHAM-1 know all that, ma'am; but you must be so good as to answer one or two questions which I shall take the liberty of putting to you. The witness then continued—l was before mar ried to a Mr. Cromwell, a surgeon. Mrs. Bywater lived in Wales before she was married. She kept house for Mr. Jones, of Cambridge. My sister lived, before that time, as servant to Dr. Jones, of Pool. She was then in service as a cook, in Lon don. She then married Mr. Davies, who was at the time a porter in a warehouse. Sir C. WETHERELL objected again to this evi dence. What could be the object of ripping up the private history of these different parties ? Mr. BROUGHAM said it was recessary to try the conduct of Mrs. Bywater to her son in this case. Persons who had rot been over delicate in one part of their lives, might not be quite so delicate as others in another part of it. The witness's examination continued.—l lived at Stamford-hill when Mr. Davies lived at Crouch- hill. I often come to town, and I had at one time a house both in town and country. I very seldom dined in Philpot-lane, for my relations there were always engaged in business. I dined there only twice in seven years. I do not know how many, but about 17 or 18 servants live with Mrs. Bywater in Philpot-lane. Those servants see my nephew every day. The last time that I was at the Retreat, at Clapham, was about a fortnight ago. I have a servant of the name of Elizabeth Price. I know Edward Hammond. He is one of my nephew's servants. I did not say, when I came from Clap ham, to Elizabeth Price, in the presence of Edward Hammond, that Edward Davies was.as well us ever, and that it was a shame to keep him in a mad-house. If Hammond has swot!) that, he has taken a false oath. I said to Elizabeth Price that my nephew appeared very well : but I did not say that it was a shame to keep hitn at Clapham. Ido not remember to have said so. I will swear that I never said so. I said it was a great pity to keep him there. I might say that I was sorry for what I had done against him. I was always sorry to see him in con finement. I know Dr. Mackinnon. He married a niece of mine and of Mrs. Bywater. He is a phy sician living in Great George-street, Westminster. I told Dr. Mackinnon that Ed ward Davies was so well that I had put off ray journey to Brighton, in order to take him out of Dr. Burrows's retreat the next day. That was about two months ago. By the COMMISSIONERS—I do not remember that he ascigmed to me any reason for his enmity to his mother. He said that his mother was angry with him because he had not told his sister the value of the estate at Crouch-hill, and what he bad given for it. Ho did not assign any reason subsequently for his dislike to his mother. He never assigned any reason. When asked him for a reason, he said, " I dislike her, and that's enough." f his witness gave her testimony in a very loan. dible tone of voice, and under feelings much excited. Mr. Brougham created much amusement at her ex pence by his mode of de-king her to keep quiet. " Now don't be excited, Ma'am—don't be wild ! Don't be boisterous ! Don't be irritated, Ma'am ! It's rather dangerous, you know—you see the con sequences." His system of soothing appeared to be any thing but pleasing to the poor lady's feelings. Mr. Benjamin Hands, examined by Mr. WRIGHT am a surgeon. The first time I saw Mr. Davies was on the 7th of August. He was then in an ex cited and irritable state of mind. The first thing which struck ate as peculiar in his conduct was the manner in which he received me when I went to visit him. He received me at the entrance of his house, and led me into his parlour, in a very obse quious manner. When we got into the room, he took a chair and placed it for me, more in the way of a servant than of a gentleman. lie said that he had been confined unjustly, and that he should be happy to meet with somebody who was his friend. All those to whom he had been accustomed to look up to in that character had become, he said, his greatest enemies. His anxiety to close the doors of the room in which we were, struck me as extraor dinary. He told me of an interview which he bad had with four physicians, who had seen him a day or two before. I asked what they had said. He spoke very disrespectfully of them. He said that he conceived that they had been sent down by his mother and friends to form an opinion on his case, and that he expected they would return one unfa vourable to him. He expressed displeasure at each of them. I visited him in his bed-room on the last day of his being at Crouch-hill. I should think that it was on the 14th or 15th of August. I found him in bed, partly dressed, with his drawers on, and with a large dog in bed with him. He told me that that dog was his only friend. It was a large fight ing dog. He drew up the bed from the mattress, and took from under it a large book of plain paper covered with parchment—it was as large as a folio sheet of blotting-paper. He said that he had sat up nearly all night writing in it—he had not had tune to transcribe what he had written, and he begged that I would read it. I looked cursorily over it. Mr. WRIGHT.—We have given notice to produce the book. - - - - Mr. BROUGHAM—We have it not. Mr. WRIGHT—! saw it myself in Mr. Hobler's hands hzfore the Lord Chancellor, at Brighton. Mr. Hobler , —You have done no such thing, Mr. Wright. Sir C. WETHERELL—WeII, well I, no matter, let us now proceed regularly. I give notice, that if this book is not produced, I shall move my Lord Chancellor to issue an attachment as for a contempt of his order. After some argument between the Learned Coun sel on both sides, in the course of which Mr. BRouniux offered to admit the service of the notice, and Mr, WRIGHT refused to receive it as admission, Mr. Miles Stone was called to prove the service of the notice. " I served Mr. nobler," he deposed, " with a notice, desiring him to produce certain paper 4, being—" Mr, PROUGHAM—The notice will speak for itself; we must not have the witness's version of it. Prove the service, and if we do not produce the notice, you can put in evidence your duplicate of it. Sir C, WETHERELL contended that this was un neeesa,ary. Mr. BRouGHAai could not acquiesce in that doc trine. He bad offered to admit the service of the notice in question, but his offer had been rejected ; and it was now quite evident that his Learned Friend was rot in a condition to prove it. All that he had proved was, that Mr. nobler had been served with a paper. Ilia Learned Fiend must produce a duplicate of that paper, or he could not pretend to state its contents to the jury. - . The Counsel in support of the commission asked their attorney for a copy of the notice; but it was evidently not forthcoming. ' After a short pause, Mr. Hobler stated, that the notice which had been served upon him was to pro duce a book, some papers, and a sealed packet. There is the book, which I had the notice to pro duce. I have no other, and I had no other. Mr. WRIGHT—That is not the book which I saw before the Lord Chancellor at Brighton ; and if ne cessary, I will make an affidavit to that effect. Mr. Hobler— I repeat that it is the book. After some further altercation, Mr. WRIGHT de sired that Mr. Hobler should be sworn. lie was sworn accordingly, and being examined by Mr. Wright deposed as follows :—" That is the only book which I received from Mr. Davies. On the 17th of August, when I saw Mr. Davies at Port land -terrace, he tore a number of sheets out of a book in my presence, awl gave them to me. I left that book in the possession of Mr. Davies, and I have not seen it since." Mr. Holder, in answer to other questions asked by Mr. WRIGHT, depwed as follows :—When first went to see Mr. Davies, at Crouch-bill, I was shown into a parlour, where there were two persons sitting. I did not know who they were at the time, but I have since learned, and I now know that they were two keepers of Dr. Burrows's. Mr. Davies was not in that room. I saw Mr. Davies about a quarter of an hour afterwards. I was called by a female servant into another room, and there I was desired to take my seat. Shortly afterwards a gentleman came into the room, whom I immediately recognised as Mr. Davies. He remained alone with me, I should think, for nearly an hour. He came into the room unattended by the two keepers of Ivhom I have just spoken. When he entered the room he recognised me immediately; he put out his hand and said, " Mr. Nobler, I am glad to see you, pray be seated, I knew you before, in Wal brook. You used then to be much inquired after, and I used to see your name often in the news papers. I have wished very particularly to see you." He then desired me to sit down. I sat down by him. lie then rang a bell, and desired a female servant to bring pen, ink, and paper. She (lid so. On their coming, he sat down again, and gave me a long history of his then present state, and how it had been brought about. Ile spoke and complained of his mother. He complained of various acts which she had done, and which he consi dered as unkind. He wished to emancipate himself from the controul of his mother, under which he had long been placed. He said that his mother had interfered very much with his business. He said that she would not allow him to conduct it as be pleased ; that she interfered too much with his shop men, and thwarted his arrangements for the proper management of his business. I can't say that he particularly complained of her turning off one of the servants. He said that this conduct of his mother had vexed him for years. That it had increased for the last year. That he had a desire to be married, and that she had checked him in that design by the proceedings which she had recently instituted against him. He spoke about the purchase of the house at Crouch-hill. He said that after he bad purchased it, he had desired his then attorney to come down and take some instructions for his will. The attorney did come. He showed him about the grounds and gave him some instructions. The at torney asked him how he intended to dispose of that estate by his will, and whether his sister was to have any share in it. He told me that there was a portion of his family which had been much ill-used by his mother, and that he felt it to be his duty, out of regard to that portion of his family, to leave them part of that estate, in order that they might participate in the success which he had had in trade. Sir C. WETHERELL—DO you know the name of that attorney ? Air. Hobler—l do. Sir C. WETHERELL—What is it ? Mr. Nobler—l am unwilling to mention it, as it may appear as if I was anxious to throw blame on another professional man; but if you require me to mention it, I can have no objection. Mr. BROUGHAM—Youhad better state what his name was. Mr. Hobler—The name of the attorney is Foster. ; He said that he was jealous of saying much to Mr. Foster about not leasing Crouch-hill to his sister, as that gentleman had been an old sweetheart of her's. He continued the conversation with me some time on that subject. He spoke kindly and feel ingly of his mother, and without so much agitation as I should have shewn myself under similar cir cumstances. He said that though it was very un pleasant to his feelings to make such a statement, he thought it right to state to his confidential solicitor who his father and mother were. He said that his father was a porter in a warehouse, and his mother a cook in the family, and that they bad married. He said that his father had died when young, and that he had been in the spirit trade—that in point of fact, he had kept a public-house. That his mother had married again, and that he was anxious to leave part of his property to her husband's family, because he was anxious to repair the injury which she had done them. I knew nothing of this story pre viously, not even the names of the parties to whom it related. He said that he had been eminently successful in business. He said that he had pur chased a place at Crouch-hill, and that it was worth more than he had given for it. He had bought it in June. He did not say any thing about a robbery to me. At this period of the conversation Mr. Day and Mr. Lawrence came in and interrupted it. Mr. Hands came in afterwards. Mr. Lawrence came in his carriage, Mr. Davies got up and said, " That is Mr. Lawrence, my confidential medical adviser." I have heard what Mr. Hands has this day said. Mr. Hands, Mr. Day, Mr. Lawrence, and myself, %vete all of us in the room together. When Mr. Law rence came into the room, Mr. Davies retired. Under standing that Mr. Lawrence was in the house, 1 sent toy card to him. Mr. Day afterwards came into the room with Mr. Davies. Mr. Lawrence asked after his health. Mr. Davies said, " Thank you, Sir, I feel a little better!" Mr. Day conversed with Mr. Lawrence, Mr. Davies being in and out of the room. Mr. Hands, Mr. Lawrence, anti Mr. Davies went towards the window, and there some conversation ensued. I joined them with Mr. Day, and we stood together some time. Mr. Lawrence spoke to Mr. Davies about his being in a retired and lonely place, and asked him how he should liken change of scene. He made, in reply, a witticism to Mr. Lawrence; he said " 1 must joke, even at the cannon's mouth." I observed Mr. Davies was given to joking and sarcasm. Mr. Lawrence said that it had been proposed that he should go to the house of a lady in the Regent's-park. Mr. Davies said, " Anywhere where you think it necessary, I am ready and willing to go." Whilst Mr. Davies was out of the room, a proposition was made in the presence of Mr. Lawrence and Mr. Day,—l do not think that Hands was present, but I am not sure,- that he should return to his mother. I said to Mr. Lawrence, " There seems great agitation in the mind of Mr. Davies on the subject of his mother's conduct towards him." As he seemed inclined to allow me to exercise considerable influence over ' him, I. asked Mr. Lawrence whether he thought that it would be advantageous for me to use that influence in removing his prejudices. Mr. Lawrence said, " It was very true that subject had produced con siderable agitation in his mind, and that if a reconci liation could be effected between him and his mother, it would be of great advantage. I then proposed call. ing on Mrs. By water,and telling her so. Mr. Lawrence said, " Put it as your suggestion, in which I con cur." Air. Lawrence showed me a card on which the address was written, to which he proposed to have Mr. Davies removed. I went to Mrs. Bywater the next day with that proposition. I was very rudely treated. She said that I had been there the day before, with that rascal George I3ywater, and I that she stipposed that he had taken me up to her son. She said that Mr. Lawrence had told her that my visit was very improper. Mrs. Pugh, her daughter, was there also. I ought to have stated that when W. Lawrence gave me the card of the add: ess to which Mr. D►►vies was to be removed, he told me that Mr. Pugh had taken the lodgings. In consequence of this representation, or rather mis representation of Mrs. Bywater, I wrote to Mr. Lawrence on the subject. I had an answer from him, with which I was perfectly satisfied. I resumed my attendance on Mr. Edward Davie•. I saw him at Portland-terrace on the Monday afterwards. I saw him for two or three hours. I took tea with him, and conversed with him on the subject of his treatment. I was in Mr. Davies's bed-room at Portland-terrace. The keeper was not in the room with Mr. Davies when I entered it. There were no razors in his bed-room. He said that he had been treated as a lunatic—that the looking glass was fastened to the wall—and that there were various other minor grievances, to which lie ought not, as a gentleman, to submit. I went to see him a;ain at Portland-terrace, but was refused admittance by Mitten, one of Dr. Burrows's keep ers. He told me that the name on the card of the house to which he was told that he was to be taken for the benefit of female society, was Mrs. Ricketts and Mrs. Wardell. He told me that he found that, instead of being the kind of house which had been represented to him, it was the house in which Sir Paul or Mr. Paul Jodrell (I do not recollect which name he mentioned) had been confined. When the conversation took place at Crouch-hill about his house, I used my influence to recommend him to go. He complained to me of having been deceived by us. On my first entering the room in which he was in the house at Portland -terrace, he was much affected. He rose and almost embraced me. He said," I am very glad that you are come, for I was told that you had given me up." He said, " Your b'll was sent back to me yesterday, with this mes sage, ' 6 See, your attorney has done with you." He gave me back the bill which I had sent in to Mrs. Bywater, for my attendance on her son at Crouch-hill. Sir C. - WETHERELL—Your bill! then you took care to send in your bill. Mr. Hobler—Yes, and there it is for inspection (placing it on the table), It is drawn up, and was delivered by one of my clerks, now present : and if vou wish to have my opinion on the subject, I have been engaged in but one commission of lunacy, and I have no wish to be engaged in another. After Mr. Davies had given me back that bill, he began to talk about it, and I had some little difficulty in calming him. When I attempted it, he said, " Look about you, Mr. Hobler; see the glass fastened to the wall, the bars at the window, and then consider whether I can be placid in such a place as this ?" We then sat down and conversed on various mat ters. He said, that from the way in which Mr. Lawrence had lured him to, and left him in that house, he was desirous to have some disinterested medical man to attend him. No person was named. Whilst we were discussing these matters, Mitten, the keeper, brought us in two cups of tea. I took one, and Mr. Davies took the other. At this time he was quite calm. Whilst we were thus engaged together, Mr. Lawrence came in. On hearing that I was with Mr. Davies, Mr. Lawrence wished to see me in another room. I supposed that it was on the subject of my letter to him. I did not go to him. When Mr. Lawrence saw me, he said to me, " I have written to you on the subject of your let ter." I said to Mr. Lawrence, " I have not yet seen it, but 1 have no doubt that I shall get it when I return home." We then all sat downi together, and conversed, among ether matters, on the subject of tea. Amongst other things which Mr. Davies said, he remarked that the best tea in his shop was 6s. 6d. a lb. Mr. Lawrence said, " I drink my tea at ss. 4d. a lb." Mr. Davies said, "If I may give my opinion, Mr. Lawrence, you had better drink it At Gs. Gd. a lb." Mr. BROUGHAM—For my o:vn part, I would ra ther drink my tea with Mr. Davies than with Mr. Lawrence. The witness continued—Mr. Lawrence soon left us. I then conversed with Mr. Davies for some time afterwards on the subject of his release, and on the best means of obtaining it. He asked me what would be the speediest mode of producing it. I told him. Subsequently, I spoke to him about getting his release by suing out for him a writ of habeas corpus; but there a difficulty met me, as there was no Judge in town in consequence of the assizes having takes them all upon different cir cuits. I recollected, however, that the Lord Chan cellor had jurisdiction in these subjects. I explained the whole !natter to him, and he understood it im mediately. He understood it much sooner than many of my clients, whose sanity has never been doubted, would have understood it. As it was growing late, I told Mr. Davies that I must leave him. Just as I was going, Mr. Dobson, a little dealer, who bud been in Mr. Davies's employ, was announced. But before Igo to that, I hope I may be permitted to state a circumstance which happen ed ut Crouch-hill, and which I forget to mention at its proper place. When I was with him at Crouch hill, he pulled out a book, and opening it, said to me, "Look here—on the 7th, B.h, and 12th of Au gust, all the time that I have been in confine ment bete, they have been sending to me for in structions how to conduct the business in Philpot lane, which they do not know how to conduct without me. Look, here are my calculations, as to what ought and was to be done." Previ ously to Dobson's coming into the room, Mr. Da vies said to me, " As it is very likely that all my papers will be taken from me, you had better take away with you all these letters. God knows that they are not the most sensible that I ever wrote— but some allowance ought to be made, cruelly treated us I have been, and still am." Ile then tore several leaves out of a book, and gave them to me for safe custody. The papers, which were torn out of the book, were the letters which I have given in, and the calculations in his own hand-writing for the amount of tea transferred to his shop during the time of his being confined to his house at Crouch hill. The other papers which I have were left at my office by Mr. Dobson, who, as I said before, came into the room whilst I was sitting with Mr. Davies at Pot tland-terrace. Mr. E. Davits then gave me a sealed packet, a cash-book, and a large bundle, which he said contained tea-warrants. The deposits he said had been paid up on them, and the prompt would be due, I think, but am not certain, that he said on the 28th of September. He said that Mrs. Bywater would have to procure 5,0001. to make up the prompt. He told me also that his bankers bad refused to cash his cheque for 2001. •I his is the cash-book he gave me. On the margin of that cheque is written in short hand " to lend Mrs. Ings 200/. for three weeks." Mrs. Inge lives at Mount-pleasant, Gray's Inn-lane, where she keeps a small brewery. The letter which Mr. Davies ad dressed to me, desiring me to call on him at Crouch hill, was not intended for my father. My father is clerk to the Lord Mayor, and is well-known in the city of London. Sir C. WETUERELL desired that that letter should be put in and read. llis request . was then complied with. The witness, after apologizing to the Court for being obliged to retrace his course very often in re counting the particulars of the interviews which he had had with Mr. Davies, and after attributing the apparent want of chronological arrangement in his detail of them, to his not having been prepared to undergo any examination, proceeded to state the convers ation which he had held with Mr. Davies, as to the refusal o f his ch eques by Messrs. Hanley. He told me (continued the witness) that he would draw two more cheques on that house, one for 2001. in favour of Mrs. lugs, and ar,other for himself, and he expressed a wish that I would precent them. — This was on the 7th of August. He then wrote two letters, one to Messrs. Flankey, desiring them to pay his cheques; and another to me, authorizing me to receive the money. These two letters were put in and read. The first was to this effect :---" Messrs. Henley, I will thank you to discharge the cheques which Mr. Nobler will present to you, and to make up my bwk, and to give me an account of the money which Mrs. Bywater has paid into you on my account since I last saw you. " Yours, &c. " Dated Aug. 7, 1829." " G. E. DAVIES," The second letter was to this effect—date the same as before :—" Mr. Hobler, Sir, , When Messrs. Hankey shall have cashed there cheques, be so good as to pay 2001. to Mrs. Ings, and for the other you will account to me•" The witness's examination was then resumed—l went the next day with Mr. George Bywater to present the cheques at Messrs. Hankey's. For fear of accidents, I wished to have some person present with me. 1 presented the two cheques, and I was told, that under existing circumstances, the house of Hankey and Co. could not think of paying Mr. Davies's cheques. I left the letter addressed to Mes-rs. Hankey with them. One of the COMMISSIONERS—How can that be ? Is not that the letter which Mr. Davies wrote to Messrs. Hankey ? Mr. Hobler—No, only a copy ; for before ha gave me those two letters, he took a copy of them at the table. At the same he gave me a sealed packet. In giving it me he said, " I give you this packet as my hand and deed." I still keep that packet. I have not opened it. Ido not know what is in it. I have never seen its contents. The CHIEF COMMISSIONER was of opinion that this sealed packet should be delivered up to the Commissioners, in order to be inspected for the purpose of the Commission. If the packet con= tained papers of Mr. Davies, which were important and ratio►.al, so much the better for Mr. Davies to have the packet opened and inspected; if it con tained papers of a contrary description, AO much the more necessary was it that the Commissioners and Jurors should be made acquainted with them. Mr. nobler acquiesced in the proposal, and then proceeded in his evidence :—Mr. Davies, I repeat, delivered the sealed packet to me, without stating the nature of its contents. He said—" I deliver it to you, Mr. Hobler, as my act and deed, and I de sire you to preserve it for my benefit." He then said to me laughingly--" I do not wish to make a porter of you, Mr. Hohler, but Dobson will early it to the cab which is waiting for you." I after wards went to visit Mr. Davies, at Clapham. When I fiat called upon him at Dr. Burrows's retreat there, I was not admitted to see him. I afterwards got admittance to him in consequence of an applica t►on which I made to the Lord Chancellor, and of a letter which he wrote to me in reply to deliver to Dr. Burrows. In consequence of that letter, I saw Mr. Davies alone at Clapham. I have seen him altogether about 15 times there. The last time I saw him was, I think, but I am not certain, on Fri day last. Sir C. WETHERELL here desired that for the sake of regularity, the Lord Chancellor's letter, which was dated " Walmer Castle, the 7th of September," should be put in and read. After some discussion this was done; and as that letter alluded to the previous letter w►itten by Mr. Hobler, Sir Charles called for that letter also. It could not he found at the moment; but it was agreed that it should be produced and read in the course of the proceedings to-morrow. The witness then continued : I saw Mr. Edward Davies on the 9th or 10th of September, at Clapham, in consequence of the Lord Chancellor's letter. 1 spoke to him about a con versation which he had had with Dr. Dil‘Michael, who had visited him by order of the Lord Chancel lor. Ile said that Dr. M‘Michael had conversed with him about Mr. Lawrence. They had spoken of the manner in which Mr. Lawrence had got into the College of Surgeons. Mr. Davies said to me that he had told Dr. I%.l‘Michael that he supposed that Mr. Lawrence had put his white hat into mourning for the loss of his radical principles. He said that Dr. M'Michael laughed at this idea much. I talked to him also about his case He was not more agitated than he was before. He was at a table; he had got writing materials before hint, and he had prepared some papers for me. He came to me and whispered into my ear. I told him that I was not deaf. He said, " There are no eyes in the room, but ears .are not far off, and I know that they are in the habit of listening to all I say." I smiled at that; he said that I was not to treat what he told me with contempt, as it was too true. I was conversing with him two or three times. He asked me if I would take refreshment, I said I would. Refreshment was brought in, and some red and white wine : he was in good spirits, and took a glass of wine. The room looked upon a grass-plot, and there were several persons passing on it ; he said " Look at these poor fellows, they are going to play at cricket." That was the fact ; for I saw them with the bat, wickets, &c. I went through the par ticulars of his case with him ; he was prolix, but not incoherent in what he said. There was nothing irrational in his manner or words that day, always making due allowance for his situation. I mean thereby that the idea of being in such a place is cal culated to produce irritation. His answer to my questions were perfectly rational. I always under stood him, and he understood me. In a word, we always understood one another. The information he gave me, and the advice lie offered upon it, were consistent. I never took instructions from any per son who knew more of his own case than Mr. Da vies appeared to know of his. At the next time I saw him, I went into some details of his case. At that time I think, but am not sure, that Mr. Pollard was present. I went through a great many parti culars with him, respecting the points in Sir G. Tuthill's report. I told him that he was accused of having fired off a pistol in a room where his mo ther was, and that he was supposed to have fired it at his mother. The pistol, lie said, was one that he had bought of Belcher, and he was showing it to his mother. He said, that whilst he was doing so, it had gone off—that at that time Mr. Lowe, his clerk, came in—that his mother was not alarmed, but that his clerk was, from smelling powder.— He said that he had then gone to the table, and put a pen in to show Mr. Lowe that it was not then loaded. He also told Lowe that the shot had gone on the floor, having first struck the table foot. He said that about a fortnight afterwards, as he Was walking in his garden at Crouch-hill, his mother asked him whether lie intended to shoot her on that day ? That he was so struck with horror, that he put his hand on her shoulder and said—" Are you not my mother ?—how can you suppose so ?" 1 then asked him about the fire-arms which he kept. He told me that he had bought the pistol of Belcher for 21. or 31.; and he said that his reason for purchasing it was, that his man Williams had been stopped on the road between Crouch-hill and London. He told me that the fowls and rabbits were a present from Belcher, and that he had never seen them, except at Belcher's. On that occasion lie was as perfectly calm arid col lected as a man need to be. He appeared to me to be of sound mind, and capable of conducting his own affairs. I saw him about fifteen times at Clap ham. Our conversations were on business entirely. His demeanour was at all times the same; indeed, he became more cool and collected as the interviews advanced. At the first approach of Mr. Davies there is an appearance about him which might strike you ; hut as he converses with you it goes off. At present I think him decidedly of sound mind. The last time I saw him no man could be more cool and capable of conducting himself rationally. The hurry of his manner, which I ascribed to his situation, has subsided, and entirely gone down, in the last month. The witness was not re-examined by Sir C. WETHERELL. By the ComatisstostEns—He has whispered to me since the explanation which we had cn that point. He gave me a reason for his doing so. He said that since I had been to see him, a friend had called upon him; that his friend, in consequence of what he had said, had left the door a little a-jar; that after talking with him for some time, his friend had silently approached the door; that he had then slaieliladmtoecmd slater said it ei ai v d et i ea o nw l p e . hie n nir t lss l to y thnel t , o ise and ahai:siutthat, alshoulders i so do listening tnee n : esgnditoooot he a all nr. d e conversation which he held with his friends and acquaintances. He had thug, he said, got is habit of whispering, which he admitted to be very foolish' The examination of Mr. Hobler was now brought , to a close. It was proposed to proceed with the examination of Mr. Hands, but the proposition wee,„. abandoned, as it was likely that his examination -0G cross-examination would both run to a considerabl e length. The CHIEF COMMISSIONER then opened the sealed packet which Mr. Hobler had received from lgr! Davies. On examining it he informed the that it contained nothing but the title-deeds . en" the abstract of the title•deeds to Mr. Davies's e state . at , C, ouch-hill. The inquiry was then adjourned till this day, at eleven o'clock. THE MARK TS. COAL MARI Adair's 34, neauinont 32 9 Ilebtourn Main 34 6 Elolywell 34 9 Jarry Low SE 6 .ET.—Dee. 16 Walls r:nd New march,. 965. 6 4 Ditto Heworth 35 Ditto Hotsur._ 35 0 p Ditto Northumberland 96 9 -• Ditto Peareth—.—.....— 6 Ditto Perkins and C 0... 95 6 Ditto Ilidth Ws_ 96 6 • Ditto Itossoll's .......-- 96 6 Ditto Wharton 0 • Lambton's Primrose 96 Walls Fild Hett0n....... 99 u Walls End ly 96 f. Walls End Stewart's .. 95 u Rlyth 27 Cowlicu 23 "0_ Ilartley 32 6 Ilingennoch Coal 41 U ranlield Tanfield 33 6 Town'qr....« 32 9 Willington 39 0 Wy lain Walls End Bell and Co. 36 0 Ditto Bell Robson & Co. 36 0 Ditto Ilewicke and 37 0 Ditto Burraton 35 6 Walls End Boundary ... 33 6 Ditto Clarke and Co. 34 3 Ditto (7ramlington,....,—, 33 0 Ditto Heaton------- 36 6 Ships at market, 69-ship: sold. 53-I.lnsolil, 14%. MARKETS DURING THE WET.S. coUNTBY Con Wheat. Barley. I Oau. Beaus.... . - . ---- --.. Per Quarter. s. to S. •. to 8. s. to S. t. • 6 1 Abingdon--...... 58 63 32 38 21 32 -. :: Andover.-- 45 62 24 94 j 22 93 --. i:; Biriningham--..-. 56 68 32 40 22 24 -- 44 • Bridport .........--- 56 '74 lt2 39 26 34 4,5 Cirencester...,....., 51 72 24 42 18 ~0 2 ° _.,-- 48 Faringdon----. 54 86 36 40 26 r _...-- WI Guildford -.....-- 43 74 25 33 20 a' - 40 Henley 54 83 30 35 28 V "" t o Hereford —....- 64 84 38 45 36 40 - sls Highworth .. 62 80 32 42 28 34 51 Maidenhead —.. 65 84 23 SS 92 30 43 Oakingham --... 56 '76 SO 36 ilB 29 "'"' 44 Reading .... 45 84 32 42 94 2 2 -- 5 4 5a1i5bury.............. 43 f 2 21 31 22 32 - 42 . . Southampton ....... 54 79 37 40 j2B 32 -••• iii Stroud - Tewkesbury .—. 65 87 4-0 42 30 38 -- 49 , Uxbridge .1; Wantage—............ 50 80 30 36 22 32 -- . Warminster ......... 44 68 23 40 23 34 -. 23 Windsor - 49 '7B 24 r 22 30 - b 5 bi Worcester.- '7o '77 36 40 24 32 - ...- _ Cll ELTENH A M MA RKET.-Dec. 15. ~ Per Bushel. S. d. to s.d. Pet lb. d. Wa. , Wheat 66 • 9 0 Beef 4 1 ' . Barley 4 0 5 0 Mutton ... ..... .. ...... .. 4 0 , Oats 6 7 Beans 4 0 b 6 Lamb 411 1.2 n Pork . 5 1 CHELTENHAM Per Bushel. s. d. to s. d;1 Wheat 66 • 90 Barley Oats Beams 4 9 b 6 Pease 5 0 8 0 Hay 3l. 1 Bcef Mutton Veal Lamb Pork Us. to 31. 15s. pei ton LEWES MARKET.—Dec. 15. White Wheat (per quarter) £3 00to£3 4 0 Ited ditto Barley Oats, New Ol9 0 11 0 Beans ll6 0 22 0 Oil Cake, New l2 0 0 per thousand. HULL MARKET.—Dec. 15. We had a moderate supply of Wheat to-day from sh e farmers, but a very slender attendance of buyers from th. interior ; the millers therefore selected the best runs a 8 something below the rates of last week, while the steel t° dary damp samples met a dull sale, at a decline 01-I''„ia 2s. quarter. Very little business passing in 01 ' 1 n 4 ;;d W Wheat, but the prices of last week are hardly i ci t u sj otrw on any description, although we do not alter o ur : ,..A - d tion. Oats, both Old and New, are in very 17 0 , mand, and prices without alteration. Beans an d : ss ,, ea t se k ; are both exceedingly dull, and the low qualitiee- sw are offering ineffectually at low Prices.—Goodc bllllll l,.. t''' Barley is not in so brisk request as last week, bits srstwo' not make any alteration in our quotations • the rniddliat soft parcels are di ffi cult to quit. Rapeseed and Linseed meet slow sale at late prices: • Wheat, Old —s 58s. n 0... ......New --a. 505. Ma. --- Foreign —s. 565. 635. ln bond... —s. —O. Oats, Poland 206. 24e. Old .. ... —s. —s, 26.5. --- Small or Feed.... —s. 12s. 180. -6. --- Foreign —s. 18s. 221. --a. —3. ." 46 Barley, Norf. & Sot ... —4. 28t., 325. Line. & Wold 268. 3 ° s ' ---- Foreign Beans 28s. 31$. 3e s. F0reign.......... . Pease, White —s. 30s. 368. Grey — 1 „ Tares --s 201. 265. Foreign —..s. 245; )010'. Rapeseed, in bond none. tree , per DUMFRIES MARKETS.—Doc. 9. A I. d. s.d. B.d. to 0 i Wheat, Imp. Bush 6 fS to 7 0 Butter, 160 3 4 3 6 Eggs, dozon .... ..... ....°0:°1 Barley Oats 2 4 2 8 Beef, per lb. .. w ' t) 5 Flour, 141 b. Oatmeal 2 1 2 4 Veil II l 0 i 9 Potatoes, cwt. Carrm—The market to-day was not so well supplieu as it has been for some weeks past, the total be in g 814. Prices have had a trifling improvement, the trade being rather brisk. • s. THE LATE FAIR AT LEIPZIC.—(FrOin French paper.)—lt appears from an authentic document upon the subject of the late fair at Leipzic, that the "ttl i , of French goods is. sensibly diminishing , p articularly cloth. Our fashionable articles, howeve r, still p reserve"' marked superiority. Notwithstanding the estimation lI I ' which the docks and watches of Geneva are held, the de . , mand for those of France was also considerable , b ut it Mss not so with French jewellery, which is daily losing group , • For French cloths and stuffs of every description there WO:- little demand, chiefly, as it appears, from the late events, in Turkey and Greece, which prevented the attendance O the Turkish and Greek merchants, who used to purcht‘ i. largely. There was very little demand for English g °44. of which we saw only what remained in the ware house. from the last fair. There were few gocds from Sax° 3l : l the manufacturers of that country having been able to A? , sale for their preduotions without sending them to th e fair' There were a great number of dealers from Vienna, 14 readily disposed of jewellery, ribands, women's sho es, amber. Shawls, owing to the regulation in Turkey P. lll hibiting their use in the army, were very low ili prhei Common woollen cloths , leather, &e. were eagerly b ou ghs up by Russian and Polish merchants, for the use o f armies. • BIRTHS. .0 111 ' On the 14th inst. at Port Eliot, the Lady Jerni Eliot, of a son. On the 13th inst. at Edinburgh, the lady of J. .0 411" tiler, Esq. of a daughter. the On the 15th inst. at Sherhorne-house, Gloucester/ lady of J. D. Harris, Esq. of a son. On the 16th inst. in Earl-street, Blackfriars, the of Mr. J. R. Houghton, surgeon, of a daughter. On the 15th inst. Mrs. J. Peachey, of Salisbury-square' of a daughter. On the 15th inst. in Bedford.row, the lady of C. " Esq. of a daughter. MARRIED. 15th inst. at Hampton, J. Kin ;piton, F.9q.' of the __ -Lipton, ig - Clairmont, Demerara, and Queen Anne-street, to Lon Henrietta, second daughter of the late Sir C. Edmottew"Qi Bart. of Duntreath, Stirlingehire, and grand-daugh ter Beaumont Lord Hotham, of South Dalton, Yorkshire,l4 On the 15th inst. at Dunham, Norfolk, Thorule!4, Chilver, Esq. of Saville-row, to Lucy Eliza, 'K g " - daughter of Dr. Clarke, of Dunham-lodge. ~,bgth J On the 16th inst. at St. Botolph's, Aldersgate• "" ba• Page, jun. Esq. of Ware, Hertfordshire, to Marts' Aid` youngest daughter of Thomas Fellowes, Esq. of Aid gate- streetthe • . BO' On 14th inst., at Worton, Oxfordshire, the of D. Wilson, Curate of Worton, to Lucy Sarah Atki n " • the same place. At Edinburgh, John Oliver, Exq., youngest soll °f .91 0 ) . • Oliver, Esq. of Dinlabyre, to Margaret, daughter of late C. Kerr, Esq. of Abbotrule. DIED. At Sir John Hayford Thorold's, Syston-honk) pelt Grantham, Lady Thorold. At Horsha Thomas Chales Medin, Esq. On the llth m, inst. at Paris, r Frances, w the wife of Ca l la ' T. G. Browne, half-pay 60th Regt. of Foot , in lb. year of her age .., ~ On the 16th inst. Mrs. Grove, late of the Theatre P°l Eng O li n sh th Oper a- 13thho in use. Mod e st. in Fenehureb-street, ? t ire. - to Jennings, in the 80th year of her age, late of LeorniPi— I Herefordshire. a f. On the 15th inst. at Stoke Newington, the Rev. - 31ilehain. e 10 On the 14th inst. nt Stepney, Ann, widow of tb W. W. Johnson; aged 64. ita On the 15th inst. at Brighton, Wm. Walker , his 73d year. le °f At Colombe, in the island of Ceylon, Sarah, 'I I bse f the Rev. A. Hume, Wesleyan Missionary, only dot* of Lieut.• Fuller, sth Veteran Battalion ~e PRINTED AND PUBLISHED BY lIURDO YOT•Lo"' • TUB Su OFII4I, 112, STRAWii,,