The Sun. — London, England, 1860-06-08 00:00:00

4.1......Y..... 0 .060.... , --. ..._______________„----............ ASCOT .RA CES.-( This Day ) SHARE Melß K E T -(THIS DAY.) • [BY ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH.] ORDINARY SHARES AND STOCKS. VISITORS' PLATE (Run on Wednesday). Share Railways. Paid. Closing I Business Plumper disqualified, and Neoptolemus gets the stakes. Price. ) Done. THIRD CLASS WOKINGHAM HANDICAP, Suburban - 1 50 Belfast and Ballymena all - - 13.14 i ßir., Wol , and Str. Val. all 8 8 1 Philomela Convivialist 25 Myth and Tyne all - - Six ran. 10 Bost. Shef. and Mid. Co all 61 75 SWEEPSTAKES OF 50 SOVS. stock Bristol and Exeter stock Caledonian Trovatore - FIRST CLASS, WOKINGHAM HANDICAP. 80 Cork and Bandon Cardigan 9 - - 20 i 'ork, "hock., &Passage all 61 7 Prelude Predictor 2 10 Dr , A (A gets no div. f all - - White Rose rhasbeen pd. toB - Fourteen ran. 50 Dublin & Belfast June. all - - 25 Dun., Perth, &Ab. June. all 8 9 SOUTH-WESTERN PLATE. stock East Anglian lOO 16 17 Amsterdam 2 stock Eastern Union, A stock 100 36 38 Suer filly a . stock Do do Bdo 100 25 27 South Australian - - 20 East Suffolk - - Twelve ran. 10 Do - - stock Edinburgh & Glasgow 100 78 70 stock Edin. Perth, & Dundee 1 0 30 31 MONEY MARKET AND CITY NEWS. 10 Forth & Clyde Junction all - - ••• s stock Furness - - stock Glasg. and S. Western 101 103 105 CITY, Two O'CLOCK. 10 Great Nthn. of Scotland all - - The Foreign and Colonial Produce Markets, stock Great Northern lOO 115 1 116 1 stock Do do A stock during the last few days, have not shown much stock Po do B do activity; the attractions of the Races at Ascot stock stock Gt. S, & l e V sie o r f n lreland 100 1 112 Ig i en 1 9 having in some measure prevented the attendance stock Irishl2 D t o r ti 'i l al e r st s e . r s n tock . IV I 60 65 of dealers and brokers. Teas have been in steady stock Lan ,, ashire & Yorkshir 100 1011 105 i 1044 i i demand, and at full prices. For the better descrip' stock oc I',o o ri ndo ß i ri a .- I ?i d t.. l en e g a s i t l i ig ( 0 ) 1144 7 1714 704 tions of sugars, suitable for home consumption, sto2csk o bond., r. Chat., t f s T e d s l t D e o r v a eri I tgl 301 0 5 1 11;1 4 WI there has been a fair enquiry ; and in the refined 124 Do eighths stock T ond & s th. Western lOO 9 3 94 93 4 market prices have been well supported for dried 25 L'derry' • & Coleraine - - goods. Copper has been dealt in to some extent 25 L'derry & Enniskt all 10 11 stock Man. Shef. & T.in oh at public sale, and the better qualities have been so Maryport and Carlisle all - - at higher prices. Saltpetre conti nued inactive, 124 Do do 1 shares all - - 10 Metropolitan and a steady business has been done in tallow for stock Midland stock Do i irming. & Derby 100 94 96 both present and forward delivery at former quo- 50 Mid. Gt. W. of Ireland all -- Cations. 25 Do 4 shares all - - )5 Mid Kent ........ .. all - - Business in the Liverpool Cotton Market yester - 10 Do, Cra y Line ..:•.•• - - day was rather active, but prices were steady. The Irs . I\ Nre el w y ea i r er an & d l e i.e ar r l d i f sle a ll d a ll - 10 - 11 sales were about 9,000 bales. 10 Newry & Armagh, def 9 7 6 d 20 Newry, Warnpt. & Roe all - - At the Bank of England yesterday there were stock Norfolk... . . ... ...... 100 54 56 50 N hn. Counties Union 3l 3/ 3 d no bullion operations of public interest. stock North British. loo 61s 62 614 To-morrow a call of £lO per share, amounting stocir stock (lg••l3rs•tilltail A & r D e k.stee d , 100 - - to £20,000, is due on the Danube and Black Sea until Cpclias be e e s n r pqß 100 - - stock Do B stock - - Railway shares. stock Nth. Eastern-Berwick 100 . 96 951 964 6 d Subjoined is a list of the transfer books whic h 25 Dodo, G.N.E. purchase 16134 11 1 d stock Do Leeds ... . close to-day, and also their dates for re - opening :- stock Do Y or, stocs North London Shut. Open. 20 North Staffordshire l7l 131 134 134 8 per Cent. Consuls Friday, June 8.. Tuesday, July 17 10 V. and S. W. Junction all 91 91 4 • 35 per Cents.. 2f per Cents ”8 .. ” „17 stock Oxf. Won & Wolverptn 100 44 46 45 41 ” New 5 per Cents „ 8 „ 17 10 Peebles ...... . - - ” .. ” • Annuities, Jan.lBBo „ 8. • ~ 1 7 20 Portsmouth /I • 1/ India Stock 1 - 14 116 - India 5 per Ct. Stk. Friday, „ 8.. Tuesday, 77 1 7 stocke Scottish N. E., e Aber. stock 100 34 .15 344 At the meeting of the Commercial Dock Com- stock Do Scot. Mid. stock... 100 87 89 stock Shropshire Uni0n...... 100 48 50 pany, held to-day, the directors' report was adopted, 10 Satin trbounie & Sheer. all 43 d and a dividend of 91 ..7 . 5 - per cent. for the half year was stock South Devon .. stock South Eastern ..... 100 67 69 I declared. stock South Wales stock S. York. and River Dun 100 78 80 A moderate business is reported in the general 20 Staines, Wok,. and Wok all 6 8 discount market, but owing to the rate s acce p ted by 25 StbAc o kto g n & Darlington do a .) l 384 t3 3p p 174 the bankers and brokers the Bank of England sto - ck rif.lkM, Hartlepool . 1 1 0 ( 0 1 - - authorities are still unable to secure a large propor- stock Do Prefl • NO • 1 .••• • • • 100 I -- -- tion of the bills offered for negotiation. The rates 25 ThamesHavenl k&Rall 22 1 - - 50 Ulster • • all ' 551 565 for loans at the Stock Excha n g e are 3 1 to 4 p er 25 Do 20 1 2 4 31p 12 10 Do .. • cent., and the usual quarterly advances will be ob - stock Vale o • f • Neath ••••••• • • • • • • 1 100 4 ' 55 p '6O tainable at the Bank. 13 Victoria Sta. and '' 1 01 1 10 11 stock Waterford' Kilkenny& lun The Stock Exchange markets present a dull so Waterford & Limerick 0 a?1 1 -- -- appearance. Rather more firmness, however, is 20 2( ) :rst C rnwall ..... West London all 1 - - exhibited in the English Funds, although the 10 Do I st class - - 20 Do 2nd class .. all I - - actual variation is unimportant, Consols being 94 / 12 4 Worcester & Hereford lll 2 1 d 95 for money, and 961 / for the account. Very PREFERENCE SHARES.. few transactions have been recorded. The New , Threes are firm, at 931 1 ; the Reduced are steady, Share Railways. ' I Closing Business 'Paid. , I Price. Done. • 931 / ; India Loan at 1061 I ; ditto 5 per Cent. 25 ,Blythe and Tyne 10 per Enfaced Paper has improved to 98 ; ditto 51 per I c. pref. (issued at £5O all - - Cent. ditto to 1621 103 ; and the Debentures are 12 ‘'t o k jilroisit&o. io x . e.it la p ie c s t.stock 1 1 0E.7 96 98 at 96! I ; Exchequer Bills have receded to 9s. stock lo C Po. 'aled u on£lo, 41 per cent 100 101 103 l Qar. . Shares, No. 2. all - - pron. 6/ Cork & Bandon, 51 p. c. all - - 20 Cornwall, 5 per cent. - - A moderate amount of business is recorded in 61 Dun.Persh&Aber..Tun all 54 6 5 Foreign Securities, and prices are firm. Turkish s sro c ct ri.o..irossssl,T:c.sP-c- 100 101 ffg 6 per Cents. are 76 to 761 ; ditto New Loan, 591 stock Do. do. Class C 7 p.c.._ 100 109 112 4 stock E. Conn. Ex. sp. c. No.l 100 110 112 to 592 ; Peruvian 3 per Cents. have improved to stock IDo. dn . No. 2 100 109 111 70 ; Mexican to 211 ik ; and Belgian 43 per Cents. s st t V i c c o . ;Easterni\'• e w i Opel ion et,i per ct. 12 124 3 1N to 971 ; Venezuelan remain at 25, but Brazilian stock I Do. 5 per a•ut. guar... 100 - - stock Edin.&Glas. sp.c. shares 100 110 112 have receded to 991. ' stock ; Do. 4p. c. gm. S. &D. 100 90 92 The Ocean Marine Insurance shares are 21- pm. ; :1:2;'(1141111.4) Furness, r t s h .p . ,t e rD centu n.4 . p.c. 100 175 76 754 the Thames and Mersey ditto, 1/ 1- prem.; and the stock , Glas.& S. West.g.a. 5 P.c. 100 118 120 stork Great Northern, sp. et. 100 116 118 Universal ditto, -} / prem.. stock Do.sp.c.Redm., 10 p.c.pm 10) 111 112 113 The dealings in the Railway Share Market have s l tg ( c ) k Do. 41 p. c. do. do. Do. Ip.c. Reclm. 5 p.c. pm 81 186 88 been on a moderate eoalo, and. come of the prin- 10 at Gt So n. of & Ceofid. I at pf. 4 all ; - - cipal lines have slightly depreciated in value. stock r t. W (Ireland) lOO ,97 99 ? p. et. pref. stock Lancashire and Yorkshire, South-Western, Mid- 50 land, and North British have receded 5 5.; Great stock Do. Redeemable, 4 t• : l e pJi. 100 99 - 101 - j lOO5 'Western, North Eastern (Berwick), and South- stock Do. 1))`").: Irredeemable,edeemable,4 p. ct. 100 89 91 do lOO 91 93 Eastern, 10s. ; Great Northern A Stock improved stock Do. 5 p.ct. Redeem. Pref. 100 103 105 8 Do. firm. Pref. Shares. all 91 101 10 1 55.; and North-Western, ss. 10 Gt. W. Ches. 8 p.c. pf.sh. all 1 7 18 10 ID() dcs p. ct. pref .. all 101 101 I The Foreign undertakings remain at almost stock Do firmg.t.rnar. stock,. 1(0 74 76 nominal values, the only dealings recorded being 264 Do. Chester gua. shares all 101 201 13/ Do. do. do. in San Paulo at 11. 20 Do. do. do. In the Colonial Market East Indian remain stockstock r v n o s r i k s al i L. stock lOO 139 141 10d pc 100 - - steady at 1021. Great Indian Peninsula have im- stock sto p o e n . 6 t p ß er i c. (E. Lan.) - - g. 5 pc.gu. No.l 100 116 118 proved to 1001, 100/ and Grand Trunk of Canada stock Do. sp. c No. 2 100 116 118 have declined to 311 311. stock Do. gua. 6p. a stock Do. do. 5 p.c No. 4 100 116 118 Joint-Stock Bank and Miscellaneous Shares are stock Do. 10. 44 per cel'. .... 100 103 105 rather flatter. London and Westminster are 61/- ; s to c k Do . . 7 p . . A. p i'r e el. 1 stock. ae 100 4 154 - 157 British North American, 51 1 ; Union of London, stock Do. 6p.c. do. (W.E.&C.P.) 100 132 136 stock Do.4p.e.S.(div.def. til '65) 100 68 70 232, and Canada Land, 121. 25 Lon. Chat. and Dover.. All 21 22 stock Lou. and N.W. Coy. and Nuneaton, sp. ct..... 100 115 117 BRITISH FUNDS-ONE O'CLOCK. stock Lon. & S.W, 7p. ct. stock 100 1521 1571 3 per Cent. Reduced Annuities 934 4 124 Londondy. & Cole. 1 s h. all - - 121 Tiondony. & Ennis. 5 sh. all 12 1 2 1 3 per Cent. Consols Annuities New 3 per Cent. Annuities 6 Do. Di I per Cent. Annuities - Do. 31 per cent India Stock. .. . Shut. 10 Do. redeem. 6 percent 5 i 51) 5 4 4 Ditto 4 per Cent. • 1064 1 121 'Wary ort & Car., 4p. c. all - - Ditto Enfaced Paper, 4 per Cent. - 124 Do. 44 per cent, all - - Ditto 5 per Cent. - - stock Do.Con.Bris. & Bir. 6 p.c. 100 140 142 Ditto 51 per Cent lO2l 3 stock Do. 41 p. c. pref. stock.. 100 102 104 Ditto Debentures, 1858 Ditto, 1859 1 - ,itto Bonds £I,OOO Ditto under £I,OOO . p.c. 10 Do Perpet. 6 Consols for Account, 10th July 95.1 option till 1866 ....... all 114 121 Exchequer Bills, £I,OOO, 1.5 d FOREIGN FUNDS-ONE O'CLOCK. VI I • Do. do. 2d is. 25 - - p Brasilian 5 per Cent - - Mexican 3 per Cent 214 stock Do. 51 p. c. Pref. do. 1847 100 - - stock Do.lWay.Val.Ex.st.lB47 100 - - 110 liitt o Account Peruvian 41 per Cent .. -- stock Do. New, pm sp. c.... 100 - - Ditto 3 per Cent. Account 7O 101 Do. Bor. tin. g. pf. shs 1 4 I P Turkish ii per Cent .. -- 10 . Do. do. do.; all - - Ditto Account - - • Ditto New Loan - stock N-East.cons.Pref. 4p. c. 100 91 93 stock Do. Berwick, 4 p.c. Pref. 100 96 97 Ditto Account Venezuelan 8 per Cent - - 1 Dividends on the above payable in London. 125 Do. do. Quarters, 1848.. 9 - - I Belgian, 4 1 per Cent., Ex 25f 974 25 Do. York, H. &S. Purch. 1 0 p 1 P 20 North Staffordshire.... all 23 21 TWO O'CLOCK. stock Ox.lVr.Wol. 6p.c. s cr. 1 t 100 123 125 Consols, Money - - Ditto Account . 10 Rhyinney Guaranteed. all - - 84 Scottish Central, new pf all - - LAW INTELL IGEN OE.--(THIS DAY.) stock Scottish North-Eastern 31 p. c. pref. stock.... 100 73 75 -4.- stock Do.Aberdeen,gua.6p.c. 100 - - COURT OF CHANCERY. stock Do. 7p. c. pref. stock 100 - - (Before Vice-Chancellor Si r Willi am P ag e Wo o d.) 10e. South Devon, Ann. 10s. all 104 104 10 Do. Fixed 44 per cent all - - EARL OF SHREWSBURY V. TRAPPES.-JUDGMENT. 1.0.6 South Eastern (Reading This was a suit instituted by the plaintiff to set aside a Ann~ 1.0.6) i Ist is lo°o 101 IVI 102 1 bill of exchange for £15,000, granted by him in certain . transactions as shareholder in Sheene-au-Over Company stuck Ito.. } 44 x ix cent. pe. stock 'milli Wales, gua. 4 p.c lOO 89 91 stock Do 44 per cent for the purchas e and sale of landed estates in Belgium, stock S.-Yorkshire, 4 p:. c gua lOO 869 1 2 on the grcund of misr e p resentation of the value of the p ro- 25 Stock. & Dar. A 5 p. c all 28 29 25 Do. B 6 per cent all 334 341 perty of the company. 25 Do. C 6 per cent all 325 335 335 His Honour dismissed the plaintiff's bill, with costs, stock Watrfd & Kilkny, 6p. c lOO 44 48 -- ------=- ----- --------- LINES LEASED AT FIXED RENTALS. Musical Education. -We will maintain our opi- --_ Leasing !Closing Business nion that the genera l s y stem of teaching music as Railways. I Paid. Price. Done , an accomplishment, with out an y reference to the pupil's 1 Co . 's. ' . , natural taste and capacity, and without any d purpose Bedford and Illetchley all 'Ln & N.W .. .. save that of display, is alike tyrra , nical an . absurd. Buckinghamshire .. 100 ILn &N.W 96 98 girls who Chester & ITol , 'We know several very clever and intelligent g , _ ) head.. 100 I Do. are well up in various branches of education, but who can. vo. do. 51 per 100 'Po Do do 5 . 1 ' . e' no earner in- •. . per cent. - 100 iDo . 113 115 not master the acquirement of music-havint,.. Clydesdale Junction.. 100 ICaledonin - - elination for the art-but their parents insist on music being Colchester, Stour Val. all E.U.&E Cl 6 17 "learnt" and music being exhibited ; so, the poor victims I , •• ] •V n n.co on li.nl a i r ire : e . ..6p.c. 100 'Gt. North. 138 140 become impressed with a false estimate of their abilities, or ._ • 1 "VI , vi:lph Shs all ,E.Counts. , 41 45 Do. Woo dbridge .. . 100 1 labour like white slaves, under dread of that terrifying Gls.Barr.& Neils:Dit. 100 1 - - - whip, "non-conventionality." We believe that music Do. New .. . . .. . 100 , ga o l . edonin - is an inherent constituent of the organisation in some, Gloster& Dean • li ; oresi all Gt. iVe's - ti --- -- while in others it is scarcely recognised even in its Hartlpool.Dek.& Rail. all Yk.N.&Br, - - most popular form. We remember that in our very Full and Selby ...... all Yk.N. Md. 111 113 juvenile days, the love of music was so strong Do• 5 Shares •••• • • • all ,1 1 30. 1 us that I every instrument coming within our reach was at- L Do. 'C'i'rl. gua-5 p.c. 100 Ln o. .s; N'w - tempted ; and with instinctive power we could tune a set of London al' & ' Greenwich 100 S. East • 204 20 6 g strings, and strum on a piano before we had been taught a Do, Preference single note. We bad a large investment in Jew's harps, Lon.,Tilhy.& Soutend. 100 Peto &Co 9l 97 whistles, and miniature post-horns. We admit that our Lowestoft, gua. 4 p.ct. 100 N , rfolk • private practice on the latter might have formed some pub- Do. 6 per cent ...• • ... i 100 Do., lie nuisance,-indeed, Nanc.,Buxtn..t 31atk., all I LN 11 &111 21 34 more than one party confided their Mid. Bradford Prefer-I opinion to us on this subject;-but within a week we could i 100 Midland 96 98 effect as fine a blast, in a small way, as ever roused a coun - ence Stock - • • • '. • .. Newmarkt.,BuryLx 1 5. 5. 6 E.Counts i I p try town in the d ead of night ; and then we were guarantee d s p . c. • pronounced to be " a musical genius." Perhaps we North n.& Eastn, 5 p.c. all Do. .. might have developed into a barrel organ, if care Do. do. 6 per cent .... all Do. - - - and money had been lavished on us ; but, fortunately,Do Fixed 5 per cent. all Do. - • - . ' ' all Midland 144 144 i ttle notice was taken of our premature symptoms in this North W estern Lk NW I n e ; so Apollo,.determined not t o l ose hi s c h ance o f a di s - Preston and Wyre. , all & L. yk . 5 _ iple, led us qat etl y on one sid e , and said , " Never mind; Do. 3 Stares A.' a ll Do. ...... - f they won't encourage your "playing," I'll teach you to Roystn.lTitch.,& Shep 10 0 Gt. North. 1 35 138 6 s i ng ;" and under this authority we got on f a mou s ly i n Shrewsbry& Hereford, 100 T.Brassey 102 104 the department that made no household noise. That Do. Do. i 1 5i P music 'should form a part of general education, is South Staffordshire .. all M'Clean.. 104 11 highly desirable, provided the pupil has a degree of natural Wilts and Somerset..' 100 Gt. West. 91 4 Wimbledon & Croydn. all L.& Brgtn 75 Si capacity, and bet ra y s the possession of " ears, ' as well z.s hands in the service of sweet sound ; but when a simple DOCKS - _--_ ballad is sung out of tune and out of time, and 16 pages of „,, Closing \ Business Sterndale Bennett are rendered in a fashion that induces a Share Docks. P"'"*, p r i ce . Done. sensitive listener to exclaim, " Stop that noise 1" then we -_______ should earnestly advise the study of music to be relin- sto-k ( Commercial quished, and some more congenial acquirement substituted. stock '. East .rp e e r r e , i ; i l t. Pref. Min. rig - - --Eliza cook's " Jottings from my Journal." stock 'East and West Indies 1!1') - 6 Large sums of mime) are being collected in Liver- stock London lOO , pool, with a view of purchasing some testimonial to mark stoc t I t o . Katharine lOO - the esteem and admiration in which Garibaldi is held by stock , (Victoriaiihampton lOO 100 100 102, 100 the subscribers, 30 Do New • 2 I 54 4l:) Share Railways. Paid. Closing , Business Price. I Done. 50 Belfast and Ballymena all 13.14 Bir., Wol , and Str. Val. all 8 8 4 stock 'Birk., La., and Ch June lOO 71 73 25 'Blackburn 25 Blyth and Tyne all 10 Bost. Shef. and Mid. Co all 61 7} stock Bristol and Exeter 00 1 102 104 stock Caledonian 1 0 Carmarthen & Cardigan 9 50 Cork and Banden all 20 'ork, I , lrock., &Passage all all esi 7 20 Cornwall 10 DoA (A gets no div all until 6 pc perm 10 Do B !hasbeen pd. toB 50 Dublin & Belfast June. all 25 Dun Perth, &Ab. Juno all 8 9 stock East Anglian lOO 16 17 stock Eastern Counties lOO 54 55 stock Eastern Union, A stock 100 36 38 stock Do do Bdo 100 25 27 25 Do Nw A, late EU3ds. 8} 20 East Suffolk 10 Do stock Edinburgh & Glasgow 100 78 70 stock Edin. Perth, & Dundee 1 0 30 31 10 Forth & Clyde Junction all stock Furness stock Clasg. and S. Western 101 103 105 10 Great Nthn. of Scotland all stock Great Northern lOO 1155 1164 stock Po do A stock stock Po do B do stock Gt. S. &W. of Ireland 100 112 113 stock Great Western stock Do Str Val ,rll9. stock 100 60 65 12 Irish South-eastern stock Lawashire & Yorkshir 100 1011 105} 104 ! I 1 stock London and Blackwall 100 70 71 704 stock T,on., (*Mit.. & S Coast 100 1145 1154 25 Lond., Chat., and Dover all 104 114 114 stock Loud. &Nth. Western 100 1014 0 .2 1011 12i Do eighths stock Lond. & -th. Western lOO 9 94 93 4 25 L'derry & Coleraine 25 L'derry & Ennisin all 10 11 stock Man. Shef. & I.in oln 50 Maryport and Carlisle all 124 Do do i shares all 10 Metropolitan stock Midland stock Do firming. & Derby 100 94 96 50 Mid. G.% W. of Ireland all -- 25 Do 4 shares all '5 Mid Kent ........ all 10 Do, ('ray Line all 100 Newcastle and Cirlisle all 25 New., Aber. & Herefd all 10 11 10 Newry & Armagh, def 9 7 6 d 20 Newry, Warnpt. & Ros all stock Norfolk... . . ... 50 N hn. Counties Union 35 34 3 d stock North British. lOO 61 4 62 en stock Nor.Dev.Rail&Dk.stee,, 100 stock D A stk ; A recs no el. until opchas beenpd.B 100 stock Do B stock 100 —. stock Nth. Eastern—Berwick 100 96 Orli 961 6 25 Do do , G.N.E. purchase 16134 1} d stock fio Leeds . 100 52 525 52! 2 stock Do Yori , ethos North London 20 North Staffordshire 174 134 131 134 10 V. and S. W. Junction all 91 94 4, • 12 Not. & Grantham Rail lO 6 1 6 / stock Oxf. Wor. & IVolverptn 100 44 46 45 41 10 Peebles all 20 Portsmouth ln Rhymney..... • stock Scottish Central stock Scot. N. E., Aber. stock 100 34 .15 341 stock Do Scot. Mid. stock lOO 87 89 stock Shropshire Union lOO 48 50 10 Satin e'bounie & Sheer. all d stock South Devon stock South Eastern ..... 100 85 86 85 41 stock South Wales stock S. York. and River Dun 100 78 80 20 Staines, Wok,. and Wok all 6 8 25 Stockton & Darlington all 385 394 25 Do do 9 8 9 p 171 Stockton & Hartlepool 161 stock Taff Vale .' , lOO — stock Do Pref. No 1 lOO 25 ThamesHavenl k&Rail 22 - 50 Ulster • • all 551 564 25 Do 12 10 Do : ........ •• • . 11 d}p stock Vale of Neath 13 Victoria Sta. and Pim stock Waterford & Kilkenny 100 50 Waterford & Limerick all 20 West C rnwall ..... all 55 6 20 West London all 10 Do Ist class 20 Do 2nd class 125 Worcester & Hereford ll} 2 1 d THE !SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY EVENING, JUNE 8, 1860. BRITISH POSSESSIONS. Share Railways. Paid. Closing Frice. 100 Atlantic &St Lawrence all 85 87 su 1 Bom.,Baroda&.Cent Ind l ' B6isinessdone stk lOO 964 971 it ( Gu. 5 par cent.. .... .1 18 Do, Do. cent........ 13/ id Id 20/ Buffalo and Lake Huron' all 41 5 d 201 Do. New 10 Do. Preference 1 all 61 64 100 1 Butfalo,Brant,&Godrich' 100 75 80 • 6 p. et. bds. Aug. 1, 1872 100 Do. do. July 1, 1873 100 70 75 - 100 Do. do. June 1, 1874 100 68 73 5 Clcutta.&S.Eastn. (Lim) 1. 30. 1 d I p 20 Cape,Eastn.Prov. (Lim.) 28. 20 Cape Town & Dock Scrip 3s. 21 11 d 20 Ceylon Guarantd. 6p. c 74 1 8 1 d :61 171 Demerara all 20 Eastn. Bengal gu. sp. c 5 1 /d 41 stock East Indian, gu. sp. c. 100 102 1024 1021 421 20 Do. F Shares Ext lO par 1 p :151 20 Do. Jubbulpore —. ~ 100 Do. 41 pc. Debentrs all " 984 094 stock Do. sp. c. Deb., 1864 all 101 102 20 Geelong & Melbourne all 21 22 Geelong Corporation 6 sto. 100 per cent. Bonds stock Grand Trunk of Canada 100 311 321 311 1 100 Do. 6 per cent. Pref all 91 93 100 Do. 6 per ct. Debentr all 60 63 611 1 100 Do. 7 per cent. 1862 100 Do. do. 1867 all 65 70 100 Do. do. 1872 all 65 70 stock Gt.lndiaPenin.gua.sp.c lOO 991 1001 1004 1 20 Do. New gua. sp. c 6 1 d 1 d :51 20 Gt. South.of India (Lim) 10 11 lid b guaranteed 5 per cent. 20/ Gt. W. of Canada Shares all • 127, 121 20/ Do. New 100 Do . Bonds pay . '76 ' will ' all 98 100 opt, till '6O 100 Do. do. '73 till '6O. all 98 100 100 Do. do. '73 without opt. all 98 100 100 Do. 51 p. c. do. '77 do. stock Madras, guar., 41 p. c lOO 88 90 stock Do. do. 5 per cent.. stock Do. 41 p. c. Extension 100 91 93 20 Do. Fourth do .. 10 14 4 d 20 Do. d 0..... _ .... all stock Melb.corp. 6p. c. Bnds. 100 Newßrunswick & Canda 20 Ry.&Land(Lim.)g.6pc Class A Capital Share all 5 7 Do. do. Land do,. .... 20 Do. do. B Capital d 0 . .. all 5 7 Do. do. Land do. ...... 20 Oude (Limited) ........ ss. stock Scinde 20 Do. Pnnjaub ....) LI ,a 1 all 11 d 1 d 20 Do. Do. stork Do. Indus.St Flo. r,,,..4 100 95 91 20 St. A ndrews & Quebec A 18 10 Trinidad (Lim.) Scrip.. 1 1 f d FOREIGN RAILWAYS. 19 Antwerp & Rotterdam all 44 41 20 !Ardennes ............ all —p 20 IBah.&S.Fran Lim.7 p.c. 7 i id 5 elgian East Junction all t 1 20 Beziers to Graissessac.. all 10 Buen.Ayres &S. Ferndo 24 p 13 6 Carmeaux Mine & Rail all 21 24 100 Copiabo ...... & ...... all 10 Ditto Extension .... all 11 1 d 20 Dutch Rhenish ........ 15 51 5 d 20 Eastern of France .... all 234 24 20 Grand Rus. Guar. 6p. c 6 20 Do. do. all 20 Great Central of France all 20 Gt. Luxem., Con. shs... all 61 61 20 Italian Junction .. ... all 20 Lake Constance & Bale. all 20 Lierre & Turnhout .... all 20 Lyons & Geneva. ...... all 334 Maria Antonia ........ all 10 Do. New ............ all 20 Namur & Liege ........ all 81 .81 20 Do. 6p. c. Pref. ........ all 191 194 16 Northern of France.... all 381 391 20 Do. New Shares ...... 12 p 10 Norwegian Trunk Pref. all 8 9 20 l'aris,Lyons, & Mediter. all 3 1 1 341 20 Paris & 0r1ean5........ all 52 54 20 Recife &S. Fran. (Fern.) gua. 7p. ct. Hrn...... 13 2 lid 20 Riga & Dunaburs...... 10 10 Rome & Frascati ...... all 20 Royal Danish .. .... all 13 15 5 Royal Swedish ........ all 4 Do. 7 per cent. Pref.... all 20 Sambre & Meuse . . 10 Do. 54 per cent. Pref all 84 81 20 San Paulo, lira, g. 7p. c 2 f id 14 20 S.Aust &Lomb Venetin 12 Id Ip 20 Southern of France all 20 2( 81 West Flanders 10 Do. 61 p. c. Preference.. all 94 9 20 W. & N.W. of France .. all 22 23 20 Western of Austria.... 6 20 Western of Switzerland all 6 Wiesbaden ...* .. . . .... all 6 Do. 8 per cent. Pref.... all 20 Zeal ,nd BRITISH MINES. Share[ Mines, I A lire 1 Consols (Philack) British Iron Clifford Devon G. Cons. (Tavist ) East Bassett (Illogan) East Caradon E. W'l Russel (Tavistk ) Gam.&St.Aubyn(Gwen ) !Great South Tolgus }G.Wheal Alfd. (Philack) G. Wheal Vor (Helston) Grenville Herod's- Foot !Hingston Downs !Lady Bertha !M irgarct (Uny Lelant) North Downs (North Frances (Illogan) Basset (1110 an)! 'North Wheal Crofty iPar Consols (St. Blazey) Providence (Uny Lelnt.) ISortridcre Cons. Min. Co. 'South Caradon(St.Cleer) S. Carn Brea (Illogan) ; S. Dev. Iron &Gen., Lim. .g.Wht,alPrfin (I lla g art) Stray Park Tam.ir Silv.& Lead Min. Tin Croft Vale of Towey (Carm ) West Basset (Illogan) Caradon (Liskeard) 'West Seaton 'Wheal Basset (Mogan) Wheal Buller (Redruth) 'Wheal Edward (Cals.) Wheal Kitty (U.Lelant) Wheal Mary Ann (Men.) !Wheal Trelawney (Lis.), Paid. I Closing Business Price. 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Gov. 6 p.c.Ja. &July 100 114 116 Do. 6p. cent. 188 , 100 - - Do. 6p. cent. 1881 100 - - Do. 6p. cent. 1882 100 - - Do. 6p. c. Feb. & Aug. 100 1110 112 Do. 6p. c. Msr. & Sept. 100 1 110 112 r Do. 5 per cent lOO 102 102; I t Do. Scrip 42 — N.B.Gov. °p.c. Ja.&July, 100 108 109 Do. op. c. Ap. & Oct.l 100 N. S. W. Gov. sp. c., 1 866 100 100 101 Do. sp. c., 1871 to 1876 100 100 101 Do. 5 p.c. : 1888 & upwds 100 100 101 Nova Scotia Gov. 6p. c. l sterling, 1875 1 100 1108 109 S.Aus.Gt. 6 p.c.1878 &up. 100 110 112 Vic. Gov. 0 p.c. Ja.&July 100 I - Do. do. 6 p.c. Ap.&Oct. 100 4065 107; 107; 1000 MISCELLANEOUS. Anglo-Mexican Mint Atlantic Tel. (Limited) 'Australian Agricultural ,Berlin Water (Limited) 'British American Land! ,8.&1.Mag,. Tel. A. (Lim.), IDo. 8,7p.c.ti111852 (Lim.)' Do. C. (Limited) Canada Land Chan.lslands Tel. (Lim ) Cop. Min.ofEng. Smltg , Do. Pref. '74 per cent. ' Crystal Palace Do. Preference Do. 5 p. c. Perpet. Deben. Electric Telegraph Do. New English & Aus. Copper Gen. 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Van Diemen'a Land 100 all all all 5 281 45 48 75 78 13 15 p id p 20 22 5 6 soi 511 120 130 IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS—(YESTERDAY.) The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack a five o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The Sovereign Life Assurance, the Consett District Water, Abergavenny Improvements, London and Brighton and South Coast Railway (Croydon to Balhara-hill) bills wore read a second time. _ _ _ The Tenbury and Bewdley Railway Bill was read a third time arid passed. CHURCH RATES. Earl DE GREY presented petitions from Huddersfield and other places, in favour of the abolition of church rates. _ _ EDUCATION IN INDIA. The Bishop of OX FORD presented a petition from Slough, praying that the Bible might be introduced into any sys tem for the education of the natives of India. ENDOWED CHARITIES. The LORD CHANCELLOR laid on the table a bill for the regulation of endowed charities. The noble and learned lord said the bill was founded on the report of the Commis sioners appointed to inquire into the subjec'. Lord CRANWORTH and Lord BROUGHAM said a few words in favour of the bill, which was read a first time. DIVORCE COURT. Lord BROUGHAM • made a few observations with respect to this court, the construction of which he thought was susceptible of great improvement. The learned judge who presided conducted the court in the highest manner; but he (Lord Brougham) was of opinion that a court empowered to pronounce a decree dissolving marriage ought to be presided over by three judges at the least. With respect to expenses attendant on such a pro ceeding, the return which he should move for would show that there were from £12,000 to £13,000 paid over annually to the Consolidated Fund from the fees of the Court of Probate and Divorce. The LORD CHANCELLOR said there would be no objection to the returns moved for by the noble and learned lord, but in the event of an additional number of judges being required for the proper dispatch of business in this court, he thought the question of expense ought not to stend in the way. TRUSTEES AND MORTGAGEES, &c., BILL. This bill was read a third time and passed. SIR T. BARNARD'S ACT REPEAL BILL. This bill was read a second time, on the motion of Earl GRANVILLE. SALE OF GAS ACT AMENDM ENT BILL. This bill passed through committee. PARLIAMENTARY REFORM. Lord TEYNHAM then moved the following resolu tions :—" That this house, greatly desiring the settlement of the question of Parliamentary Reform, for the satisfac tion of men's minds, for the sake of the peace of the coun try, and that the business of Parliament may be pro ceeded with without let, is willing to give its most careful consideration to the prayer of the petitions which hav e been presented to it in favour of manhood suffrage and vote by ballot; this being the broadest basis for the elective franchise which has been presented to it by petition : That this house hopes to discern them who for any reason ought not to be allowed a vote, and to point out means whereby improper persons may be deprived of the franchise after it is legally possessed ; so that, on the one hand, no man shall be left without the franchise against whom no just or suf ficient reason for his disfranchisement can be assigned; and, on the other hand, no man shall be put on the list of voters, or continued thereon, against whom just grounds of disfranchisement can be alleged and proved : That this house is, therefore, prepared to recommend such alterations in the criminal, vagrant, and poor laws as shall appear necessary to cut off from the register of voters all improper persons. In this way the house hopes to grant the spirit of the prayer of its petitioners for manhood suf frage and vote by ballot, not only without detriment to the common weal, but with great advantage to the same." The noble lord said that besides the few petitions he then lad the honour to present to their lordships, in an earlier part of the session he had presented very numerous peti - tions, principally from Northumberland and Cumberland, in favour of universal suffrage and vote by ballot, and from other parts of the country in favour of the ballot alone. Deeply conscious of his weakness and incompetence to perform the task he had undertaken, he had ven tured to address their lordships, sheltered by the peti tions of the people. At the same time he must candidly admit that ho fully adopted those statement 4, and in the remarks which he was about to address to their lord ships, he wished to be understood that he fully approved in his conscience the truth and justice of the cause he was advocating There were formerly colonies of this country which it pleased Parliament, iu their wisdom, to endeavour to tax. The people of these colonies—not of one or of some, but of all thirteen put together—rose in:opposition to that attempt. They were told that in like manner there was a very large number of unrepresented persons in the United Kingdom who were in the same position, and who not withstanding all that had been said and done, were like so many dead men's bones. But the experience of the United States bade him hone better things concerning them namely, that the same views would breathe life into these dead men's bones. In the contest for truth, in the struggle for justice, almost uniformly the battle was of the weak against the strong—eventually the weak had triumphed. Now the unrepresented in England were weak and poor; yet history led to the belief that better hopes might not in vain be entertained for them. He had therefore ventured to undertake the cause of the unrepresented in their lordships' house, feeling that if he did not, it was not likely that an other would take his place. (Hear.) The sum and substance of his motion was this—that their lordships would be will ing to give their most careful consideration to the prayer of the petitioners in favour of universal suffrage and vote by ballot ; and if their lordships thought fit, that a select committee or royal commission might bo appointed to in quire into what was necessary to be done in order that the prayer of the petition might be granted. In an eloquent speech recently made by Mr. Gladstone, he had fully admitted the right of the governed to make choice of their governors. In that sentiment he fully agreed, and at the same time he congratulated the Univer sity of Edinburgh on the choice which they had recently made by the selection of so able and eloquent a man as Mr. Gladstone to be their rector. The petitions which he had presented had in many instances been signed only by the chairman presiding at public meetings, who thus repre sented the views of hundreds and thousands of persons. A common idea seemed to prevail that the unrepresented were —if he might use the expression—represented by those who were represented, and that Parliament had become the trustee for a majority of the Teeple. On this subject ho would venture to remind their lordships of what had been said by Burke. (Tho noble lord read several passages from ene of Burke's speeches, and continued.) Let their lord ships only compare the circumstances under which they were then_met and those under which Edmund Burke ad dressed the other House of Parliament. At that time there were some hundred thousand descendants of the people of ...ountry living beyond the sea whom it was endeavoured to tax ; but the attempt was resisted, and the result of the conflict was crowned with success. He therefore prayed their lordships to grant his plea to-day. He begged to direct their attention tb the way in which universal suffrage bad been presented to the human mind. In every age and time the greatest truths haftneen taught by means of fables, and their lordships remniAbered the parable of the trees who met to choose a king, and when the olive and the vine were asked to reign, they refused, Finally, as they well knew, the choice fell upon the bramble. Next to the sacred writings, he might refer to Shakspeare, and the language put into the mouth of Brutus in Julius Caesar would occur to their lordships' recollection. It might be said that the right to vote was merely an ab stract one; but abstract or not it was a right, and being a right might be pleaded, and being pleaded it was one to which just men would give heed. The doctrine of univer sal suffrage was taught anologically by the arms borne by the different republics, in which equal prominence was given to the symbol of each state. Thus in the Helvetic Confederation each can ton was re p resented by two depu ties, and its arms consisted. of a c i rc l e enclosing a number of smaller circles, one for each canton. The arms of the Dutch republic were a bundle of arrows, with the legend " Concordia res parvse crescunt ; dis cor di a maxims° diruun tur." The stars and stripes of the United States conveyed the same lesson; and so careful were the founders of that republic to preserve the connexion between taxation and representation, that only twelve of the thirteen states gua ranteed one of their earliest paper transactions, the repre sentative of the thirteenth happenin g to have been absent when the issue was determined upon. He now came to universal suffrage as it existed i n th e church of God. The judicious Hooker, in hi▪ s great work on the Laws of Eccle siastical Polity, said that the natural origin of power to make laws civil was the commonwealth, and so the nat ura l o rigin of laws ecclesi▪ astical was the entire body of the church; for equals could not i m p ose statutes upon their equals. Nevertheless, in England, where all men were equal before the law, the represented took upon themsel' es to impose laws upon the un represented, which Hooker said they co uld not do. Archbishop Whitgift, in hi s ans we r t o the Admonition in 1572, admitted that in tho Apostolic times, and down even to the tim es o f Cyprian, the people had a voice in th e appointment of th e i r m i n i s t ers, an d t h at they sometimes m ade a right good choice. He (the noble lord) thought that in temporal matters the people would be still more likely to make s uitable appointments ; and it was certainly a libel to imagine that th e y w ish e d t o obtain or retain their liberty without putting themselves to any expense. In France, although revolutions were frequent, there were certain principles on which the people, whenever they obtained their liberty, invariably insisted. Amongst these universal suffrage always found a place. Garibaldi, in his address to the Sicilians, called on them all to arm, and he signed his name, " G. Garibaldi, General of the Romans, appointed by a government elected by universal suffrage." Well done,universal suffrage He would now call their lord ships' attention to what had been the practice in England for many years with regard to the suffrage. In the 28th of Edward I. he read that " the King had granted unto his people th l at they should have an election of their sheriff in every shire." That involved universal suffrage. Then by the 7th of Henry IV. it was enacted that "proclamation Ishould be made in every county of the name and place of holding a parliament, and that all who might be there should attend to the election of their knights for the par liament, and that in the full county they should proceed to the election freely and indifferently." Though there were limits in the borough at this period, universal suffrage prevailed in the counties, in proof of which he might quote the preamble to a statute of Henry VI., which stated that "elections had been made by a great and excessive number of people dwelling within the counties, and who, for the most part, were people of small substance, and of no value, every one of whom pretended to have a voice equivalent to the most worthy knights and esquires;" and then the 40s. freehold qualification was enacted. Now, he con tended that an act of parliament might be void ab initio ; Parliament might exceed its duty, and pass acts which were not legal. On this point he would give authorities, and the first he would quote was an American authority, "Clinton's Digest of Decisions," in which there was this passage,—" The Legislature is not supreme ; it is only one of the organs of the absolute sovereignty which resides in the whole body of the people, and when it steps beyond that boundary its acts, like those of the most humble magistrate who transcends his jurisdiction, are utterly void." The LORD CHANCELLOR said he could not allow it to be stated that an act of the Legislature which had received the Royal assent had not the full force of law. The noble lord quoted an American authority which did not apply to this country. Lord TEYNHAM said he v, - euld quote an English autho rity, and that was Lord Coke, who said, "In many cases the common law will control acts of Parliament, and ad. judge them to be utterly void; as, when an act of Parlia ment is against common right and reason, the common law shall control it." Now, he asked, if legislation could go be yond its boundaries, was legislation with regard to the fran chise one of those occasions? He must again fall back upon Amei ican authority. In the seventh article of the constitu tion of the state of New York it was provided that no one should be deprived of his franchise and privileges but in accordance with common law, aid Justice Story said fun damental principles seem to require that the right of pro perty should be held sacred, and that the rights of the people should not be taken away from them without a strong ex pression of the will of the people. Parliament, however, acted without any expression of the will of the people in taking away their franchise, and he contended that Parlia ment exceeded its duty in the time of Henry VI., when it took away the right of the people to vote in counties. He thought the people should set forth in theirpetition that they gave no authority to Parliament to deprive them of their votes, and they should ask that that and the other acts which hung upon it should be repealed. There was an appeal from Parliament to the common law, and he thought the unenfranchised should choose an irreproachable man living in a county, and on his behalf plead in a court of common law to have his name put upon the register, though the statute of Henry VI. did not permit it. The first Parliament of King Charles 11. passed an act declaring the Parliament then sitting a lawful Parliament, notwithstanding, any want of writs, or other defect ; and the first Parliament of William and Mary also passed an act to the like effect, and if the non-electors, when they had failed in their petitions and failed in their application to the courts of common law, were to choose their own representatives, and those repre sentatives assembled at Westminster and called themselves the Commons House of Parliament, he questioned very much whether it would not in deed and in truth be the Commons House of Parliament; and it might be that not in two instances, but in three, it might be read by their children hereafter that a Parliament, summoned not by ordinary writ, met at Westminster, and determined itself to be the Parliament then and there. His notice of motion referred to the practical manner in which the question ought to be dealt 'with. He thought they ought not to give, as in France, the vote to persons in the army and the navy, nor should it be granted to criminals or paupers. He would not detain their lordships long on the question of the ballot, but he was bound to 'refer to it as it was part of his motion. The ballot was not only used in certain cases by the House of Commons in the reign of Queen Anne, but in the reign of Queen Elizabeth it was employed by the Presbyterians of Northamptonshire, who were by no means a cowardly set of people. Then how could it be said to be un-English, when it was still resorted to in the reign of Queen - Victoria by our fellow-Englishmen the colonists of Australia ? He allowed that the electoral franchise was a trust ; but the voter should therefore be enabled fairly and fearlessly to discharge that trust. He was acting judicially when he had to decide on the fitness of a candidate, and for his conduct in that capacity he could not legally be called to account, so that there was no ground for making his vote public.., In conclusion, the noble lord said he regretted that had seen his duty to trespass so long on their lordships' atten, t ,...ffn moving these resolutions. The sum of what he askerwas that they should pledge themselves to give to the pe,titions their serious consideration. Earl GRANVILLE said it was impossible to have heard the noble lord without acknowledging the earnestness and sincerity with which he had advocated the doctrines he considered so important to the future welfare of the coun try ; but this made it all the more imperative on him (Earl Granville) very briefly and plainly to state that it appeared to him that it would be impossible either for himself or the house to consent to the resolutions to which the noble lord had proposed. The fortU and itinguage of those resolutions wore somewhat unusual ; but without applying to his noble friend the chairman of c omm itt ees t o d ec id e questions on which it would perhaps be painful and embarrassing for him to give an opinion, he (Earl Granville) must remark that the substance of these resolutions was such as to make it impossible for the house to agree to any one , hem. They were four in number, and the house was ask.;l' Vadopting them to affirm a fact, and to express a hop, o 4 intention. Their lordships were, however, first called upon to say that they greatly desired the settlement of the question of parlia mentary reform. He (Earl Granville) did greatly desire it, and he could not doubt that their lordships felt the same desire. He could not, therefore, attribute the very thin at tendance of their lordships that evening to any want of inte rest in the matter, but rather to a feeling that this was not the most practical way of dealing with the question. But it would be perfectly impossible for them to declare " that this house is willing to give its earnest consideration to the peti tions for universal suffrage and vote by ballot ;" because adopting a formal resolution of that sort would be going so far as to imply their intention of favourably considering that request. They were next called upon to express a hope that they would be able to cut off from the register of voters all improper persons, which was one of the most diffi cult things it could possibly be proposed to them to attempt, and the noble lord offered no scheme for effecting that object. The last resolution, which contained the pith of the whole, declared that the house might grant, in spirit, the prayer of the petitioners for manhood suffrage and vote by ballot, not only without detriment, but with advantage to the country. Now he (Earl Granville) was extremely desirous of reforming the present representation, and he had been endeavouring during some weeks to elucidate whatever evidence could be obtained to show that a considerable ex tension of the franchise might take place without detriment to the common weal. But when they came to manhood suffrage he was not prepared to give any countenance to the adoption of any such proposition. He need not follow the noble lord through all his philosophical, religious, his torical, and almost treasonable reasons for adopting univer sal suffrage ; indeed his memory would fail him if he at tempted to do so. The noble lord had indeed referred to precedents, and this was always desirable in discussing con stitutional questions. But if secret voting was once re sorted to by the House of Commons in the reign of Queen Anne, it wis clear that the system was then tried and con demned. The example of the Presbyterians of Northamp tonshire could hardly be applicable. With regard to the suffrage, it was not correct to say that universal suffrage existed in the reign of Henry VI., for the suffrage was then confined to freeholders alone. One of the greatest ob jections to universal suffrage was that it was likely, as he believed, in large countries where there was a powerful and long-established administration, to tend, more than any other form of representative government, not to the im provement of liberty, but to the destruction of liberty and the establishment of despotism. (Hear.) And when the noble lord urged the example of 1818 in France, he (Earl Granville) must remark that the form of government which had arisen in France was not such as we could wish to see arising in England. Switzerland was, no doubt, a country from which very sound lessons of liberty might be learned, but it was very different from our own country in its size and. in its position, and in 'all its circumstances. The noble lord said that in Switzerland, as soon as the father put a rifle into his son's hands to qualify him for the defence of his country, he became possessed of the franchise. Yet the noble lord himself proposed, in Eng land, to deprive every man in our army and navy of the franchise, and so the absolute doctrine broke down by the indefeasible right of every man to vote who had not dis graced himself by crime. For these and other reasons he thought it was not desirable to adopt the resolutions moved by the noble lord. (Hear, hear.) The resolutions were then negatived without a division, and their lordships adjourned. 341 351 8 10 HOUSE OF COMMONS.-(YESTERDAY.) The SPEAKER took the chair at four o'clock. SMITHFIELD MARKET, STREETS, AND IM- PROVEMENTS BILL. Sir J. DUKE, in moving the second reading of this bill, said he denied that the ancient site of Smith field Market would be interfered with by the proposed improvements. The experiment of a dead . meat market near the cattle market had be en tried, and it had proved a failure, although the Corporation of London had expended on it £250,000, and had given a piece of ground towards Long-lane for carrying Eiut the object. The whole of the outlay that will have to be incurred will be nearly £500,000. The honourable member hav ing passed an eulogium on the Home Secre tary for his courtesy in general, as well as his conduct in reference to this measure, said the bill had received the approbation of the Home-office and the Commissioners of Woods and Forests. It would have the effect of clearing Newgate-street, which was one of the greatest Ruisances in the City to persons crossing in that direction. Mr. MAcKINNow opposed and Mr. Alderman SALOMONS supported the bill. Sir Q. LEWIS hoped the house would allow the Dill to be read a second time, and b.ny alterations that might bo deemed desirable could be discussed in committee. Sir M. PETO opposed the bill, which he said was not in accordance with the report of the commission on the sub ject. Mr. C 0 WPER contended that the plan which the house was celled on to approve carried out fully the recommendation of the commission, and would effect great salutary improvement in the City. After somefutther discussion the bill was read a second time. Sir J. DUKE moved that the bill be referred to a com mittee of selection, which was agreed to. PETITIONS. Several petitions were presented against the Reform Bill in its present form; against the Scotch Registration Bill; in favour of the Reform Bill, and praying that the house do pass the bill into law without any unnecessary delay, as a wise and discreet concession to popular claims ; in favour of a bill to establish tenant right in Ireland ; fiom the Rev. Mr. Spurgeon, complaining of the annoyance and inter ruption to public worship caused by the crying of goods in the streets on Sundays, and praying the house to adopt some steps to suppress the nuisance, &c. 2.11.101 16 2.14.5 7.4.0 GREENWICH HOSPITAL. Sir C. NAPIER gave notice that, on the 19th inst., he would move that the house take into consideration the re port of the commission on Greenwich Hospital. ALLEGED MISCONDUCT IN REGARD TO A LUNATIC. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE asked the Secretary of State for the Homo Department, if his attention had been directed to the petition of Jesse Mumford, a labouring man, of Per shore (presented on the 31st of May), complaining of the illegality and outrage perpetrated upon his wife, in having been forcibly reconveyed after 10 weeks' absence, an 3 in defiance of the wishes of himself and her relatives, to the Lunatic Asylum of the county of Worcester, and what steps he had taken in consequence ? Sir G. C. LEWIS said that a letter from the husband had been addressed to the Home-office, and the matter was referred to the Commissioners of Lunacy. The commis sioners had investigated the subject, and reported that there was nothing in the affair that called for censure. THE REFORM BILL. Mr. BLAKE asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether, in the event of a measure for the amend ment of the representation of the people passing during the present session of Parliament for England alone, a dissolu tion and general election for Great Britain and Ireland would take place, to be followed by elections in Scotland and Ireland on the passing of the bills for the amendment of the representation of the people for those countries. Lord J. RUSSELL said he could inform the hon. mem ber that Parliament could not be dissolved except by the prerogative of the Crown. If the Crown exercised that privilege, a dissolution would take place. (Laughter.) When a dissolution took place a general election would take place in Scotland and Ireland as well as in England. (Renewed laughter.) ESTIMATING RENTAL. Mr. P. WATLINGTON asked the President of the Poor Law Board, whether the Instruction Letter from the Poor Law Commissioners to Parochial Officers, dated the 22d day of June,lB37, had ever been withdrawn, or whether the practice of considering gross estimated rental as the landlord's rent, the landlord and tenant respectively pay ing their own proper charges, prevailed in opposition to the instructions therein contained. Mr. VILLIERS said that the instruction of the 22d June had never been withdrawn, but possessed no other au thority than as an expression of opinion on the matter to which it referred. THE REFORM BILL. Mr. BRADY complained of the manner in which the noble lord the Secretary for Foreign Affairs had answered the question of the hon. member for Waterford (Kr. Blake), and was proceeding to make some general remarks, when he was called to order by The SPEAKER, who informed the hon. member that he must ask a question, to which he must confine himself. Mr. BRADY then asked the noble lord (Lord J. Rus sell) a question similar to that of the member for Water ford. Lord J. RUSSELL said that he had answered the ques • tion to the best of his ability, but he would endeavour to render himself more intelligible to the hon. member (Mr. Brady), though he was by no means sanguine of success. (Laughter.) No dissolution could talc-) place until the Crown should have been advised to exercise its prero gative. If that advice was taken, and Parliament was dissolved, their elections would take place in Ireland and Scotland. If the hon. member asked him what advice would be given to the Crown, it was a question to which he would not give an answer. (Laughter.) SCOTCH AND IRISH REFORM BILLS. On the order of the day for resuming the adjourned de bate on the Representation of the People B ill, Sir JAMES FERGUSSoN moved the folbwing, of which ho had given notice :—" That the order of the day for the Representation of the People Bill, Adjourned Debate en going into Committee,' be post poned until after the orders of the day for the Repre sentation of the People (Ireland) Bill (second reading), and Representation of the People (Scotland) Bill (second read ing)." He slid he took this course with a view to induce the noble lord (Lord J. Russell) to allow the discussion on the three bills to take place at the same time, or that the Eng lish Refor n should be withdrawn altogether for the present session. If it was proposed to adopt the latter course he wouli have had no objection to offer. Or, if the Govern ment omitted altogether to deal with the representation of Scotland and Ireland, he, as a private member, would not have deemed himself called to make any complaint, because the Government might see proper reason for that omission which might not be apparent to a private member. He considered that the course proposed by the noble lord was open to the gravest exception, for it proposed to intro duce an exceptional mode of legislation with reference to Scotland and Ireland, which had formed a standing ground of complaint in these countries. If the English Reform Bill were passed, and that of Scotland and Ireland post poned, the two latter countries would be placed in a very anomalous position, for a dissolution of Parliament would follow, and the English members would be returned under a new and different description of constituency, while the Irish and Scotch members would owe their election to the old system of franchise. Now, this would be a grievance, of which the two countries in question had to complain, and confining himself to Scotland, he contended it would be a gross injustice to Scotland not to increase the number of electors when population had increased in that country. Suppos ing the Parliament dissolved without having passed the Scotch and Irish bills, there must in common justice be another dissolution the moment these measures had been agreed to, and this would bring the houso to annual Parlia ments, and all the other more flagrant abuses of strictly democratic assemblies. The Scotch an d Irish bills wee e now postponed for three months. Did they believe that English members would be able to discuss them in three months, after the toil and anxiety of the discussion on the English bill ? Lord J. RUSSELL—The postponement for three months was equivalent to a withdrawal of the bill. Sir J. FERGUSSON continued—The last Reform Bill had dealt kindly with Scotland and so much was that the opinion of Scottish members, that the member for Montrose moved an amendment on the ground that the three countries were not simultaneously dealt with. In conclusion, he begged to disclaim any party or factious motive in bringing forward this question, and would state emphatically that neither his object nor that of his party was to embarrass the Government. Colonel DICKSON seconded the motion, and on the part of Ireland, complained that gross injustice had been inflicted on the country by the course the Government had pursued. Sir G. GREY said that he had not heard the motion with which the hon. member for Ayrshire had opened his speech. Now that be had heard it, he was quite at a loss to compre hend what relation it had with the two speeches made in support of it, or how the adjournment of the debate could assist the object the hon. gentleman had in view, namely, the earliest possible consideration of the bills for the amend ment of the representation of the people for all parts of the United Kingdom. The hon. gentleman had fallen into a mistake in assuming that as soon as a bill for amending the representation either for the whole or a portion of the United Kingdom, had passed, it would be the bounden duty of the advisers of the Crown to recommend the Crown to dissolve Parliament forthwith, in order that the new constituencies might exercise their privileges. But the passing of the act did not bring those constituencies into existence at once. A very considerable interval must elapse before the claims of persons entitled to registration under the new law could be taken into consideration, and if this bill were passed before the close of the present year, it would be impossible until the close of the next year, after the registration had been completed, that they could exercise their new privilege. Sir J. FERGUSSON said that he did not mean to assert that he believed a dissolution must take place, but that the conduct of the Government led him to suppose that such was their object, and would lead the country to think so too. Sir G. GREY said that the Crown might exercise its prerogative of dissolution at any time; but even then the new constituencies could not exercise their rights until a considerable interval of time had elapsed after the passing of the bill. (Hear, hear.) But he was not surprised at the course which the hon. gentleman (Sir J. Fergusson) had taken, especially after the debate the other night. There was a desire now to change the issue proposed by the hon. member for Rye (Mr. Mackinnon): (Hear, hear.) Hon. gentlemen, finding the absurdity of supporting that motion —(no, no)—had devised that of the hon. member for Ayr shire (Sir J. Fergusson), and dropped that of the hon, member for Rye. (No.) He could not persuade himself that any hon. member of that house could seriously enter tain the motion of the hon. member for Rye as one that would be conclusive. (Oh, oh.) After having affirmed the principle of the bill, after agreeing to the second read ing—the principle being that there should be a reduction in the county franchise and a reduction in the borough franchise, for the purpose of admitting a portion of the working classes to the franchise—he eould not believe that hon. gentlemen could seriously entertain a proposition that those rights should be withheld, and their consideration postponed for almost as indefinite period, in order to liner tain with arithmetical precision the number of inhabitants of a few boroughs contained in the bill, and from whi,•h, on account of their comparative unimportance, it was proposed to take one of their members, and transfer them to more important parts of the country. (Hear.) The hon. and learned member for Guildford (Mr. Bovill) made a long and able speech the other night, which might with more pro priety have been made in committee—(hear)—and he be lieved he had shown that Guildford wculd not be dealt with fairly by the bill. But the hon. and learned gentleman had taken anether course, and had chosen to put Guildford in the van of obstruction. (Hear.) The census, in feet, had nothing to do with the essential portions of the bill. The reduction of the borough and county franchise did not depend in the slightest degree upon the returns of the cen , sus of '6l. The only portion of the bill to which the census could in any degree apply was that which related to the re distribution of seats, and that was only a small portion of the bill. He (Sir G. Grey) might ask why the present ob jections had not been taken on the second reading of the bill, and thus the time of the house have been saved. (Hear, hear.) The same objections might have been taken to the bill of the late Government—the only difference being a difference of one year. (Hear, hear.) But the hon. mem ber for Ayrshire (Sir J. Fergusson) came before them inthe character of an ardent reformer, who was dissatisfied with the present state of the representation in Scotland. The hon. member had asserted that in former Parliaments it had been the uniform course to proceed par i passe with the bills for England, Ireland, and Scotland. Sir J. FE RGUSSON—I said exactly the reverse. -- --- Sir G. GREY said he had understood thohou. gentleman to say that the Government had departed" from the•'usual course. Sir J. FERGUSSON—What I said was that in 1832 the course of postponing one bill to another was adopted to the great disadvantage of the country. Sir G. GREY said the hon. gentleman seemed to think it possible to go into committee one day on one bill and another day on another. (Opposition cries of " Ne, no.") The hon. member had not been in the last Parliament. If he had he would not now have complained that the course taken by her Majesty's Government was unusual. When the right hon. gentleman the member for Bucks proposed his reform bill he not only did not propose a reform bill for Ireland and Scotland, but he proposed the second reading without having given the slightest intimation to the house as to the principles upon which the Government had decided with regard to bills for Irelani and Scotland. (Hear, hear.) The right hon. gentleman went further, for he announced that it was the intention of the Government, if the second reading was acceded to, to go into committee before Easter, and consequently it would have been impossible to have asked the house that year to give a second reading to the bills for Ireland and Scotland. With the expe rience of late years of the pressure of business on the Government, he (Sir G. Grey) very much doubted whe ther the best mode of securing a full and ample considera tion to bills of this kind would not be to attempt less in one session. (Opposition cheers.) If this bill should be post poned according to the desire of some hon. members oppo site, and taken up again at the beginning of next session, accompanied by Scotch and Irish bills, there would be much less chance of a due consideration of the Scotch and Irish bills than if Parliament had assented to the bill for Eng land, and then, guided by that assent, had proceeded to the consideration of the bills for Scotland and Ireland. He be lieved that course would be most conducive to the end pro fessed to be entertained by some gentlemen, but of this he was sure, that if they were to adjourn the ceasideration of the bill—to what day he really did not know—the effect would be merely to interpose an obstacle to its further pro• gress without asking the house to come to any decision upon that question. He therefore asked the house, if they really wished the bill not to be delayed for two or three years, to express an opinion to that effect by a direct and unam biguous vote, and not to lend themselves to a motion whose only object was to defeat a real and salutary amendment of the representation of the people. (Cheers.) Lord J. MANNERS rose for the purpose, not of advert • ing to the speech of the right hon. baronet, so far as it was made in reply to that of the hon. member for Lyme, but of considering the answer it gave to the statesmanlike speech of the hon. and gallant gentleman the member for Ayrshire. The right hon. baronet assumed an air of injured innocence and said the motion of the hon, and gallant gentleman was merely a device to delay the progress of the bill. The right hon. baronet must recollect that, so far as that side of the house was concerned, no amendment proceeding from it had yet been put from the chair. It was true that two important amendments had been submitted to the consideration of the house, one by the chairman of committees, who was certainly not connected with the party on the Opposition side of the house ; the other by an hon. gentleman who, in making it, said it was the pride of his life to be the devoted follower of the noble lord at the head of the Government. Yet the right hon, baronet could look across the table and talk of motions intended for delay and procrastination when he knew as well as any man in the house that those who were most anxious to defeat the bill sat on the benches im mediately behind him. (Opposition cheers.) But let him ask under what circumstances it was that his hon. and gal lant friend felt compelled to submit the present motion to the house. The right hon. gentleman told them, as an earnest and sincere reformer, that he was convinced of the impassibility of passing the three reform bills in the present session. When did that truth first dawn on the mind of the right hon. gentleman? Why was Pam liament summoned a fortnight or ten days earlier than usual ? And why, when Parliament met, was it announced from the throne that the representation of the three countries was to be reformed ? And why when the English Reform Bill had been intro duced were the Scotch and Irish Reform Bills also intro duced the same evening ? And why were those bills made every night to follow the English bill upon the votes ? (Op position cheers.) It was clear from the first that it was in the mind of the Government to reform the representation of the three countries in the present session, and whose fault was it that this session was so far advanced that in the opinion of the Government it was now impossible to fulfil that engagement ? (Hear.) Was it the fault of the Opposition? lie should like to know when, in the annals of Parliament, measures of such magnitude had been pro posed by the Government and received such a slight dis cussion as the financial bills of the Chancellor of the Ex chequer ? If fault there were, and fault he admitted there was, it was not the fault of the House of Commons or of the Opp mition, but of her Majesty's Government, who from their treatment of the business of the house showed that they did not regard the reform of the representation of the people in Parliament as the paramount question of the day. (Opposition cheers.) Mr. LONGFIELD hoped the house would adjourn sine die ,the consideration of the English Reform Bill until the whole question of reform could be dealt with . Mr. INGRAM had heard with regret the statement o the noble lord the member for the City of London, that he was open to consider the propriety of extending the fran chise from £6 to £7, £B, or £9. He thought any increase from £6 would effectually destroy the value of the measure ; and he would rather see the whole question postponed until another year than that such a concession should be made. Mr. WATLINGTON saw no reason why legislation should be pressed forward, considering the total absence of feeling throughout the country in favour of the bill. He thought the noble lord would act wisely in withdrawing the bill, and in introducing another measure if he thought proper at some more fitting opportunity, when the house could have more accurate information before it. Mr. ALCOCK said there was no supineness in the country in reference to the Reform Bill, because there was a belief that the house would agree to it. But if any attempt were made to reject the bill, the feeling of the country would soon be manifested in a most unmistakable manner. _ _ _ Mr. C. BRUCE felt that justice to Scotland demanded that the extension of Moo franchise should be made to that country, and this could not be done if they now passed the English Reform Bill. Mr. BAXTER said the majority of the Scotch members in that house were reformers, and no doubt wished most anxiously for Parliamentary Reform ; but he should be doing injustice to his own convictions, and he believed would not be faithfully representing the feelings of the majority of the people of Scotland, if he did not give his most decided opposition to the motion of his hon. friend the member for Ayrshire. (Hear, hear.) Mr. GEORGE, as an Irish member, considered that the English and Irish bills should be presented to the house in a united form. His opinion was that a Reform Bill could not be passed for England without more or less affecting Ireland, such were the relations of the two countries. Mr. PEASE hoped the house wou ld take Borno action in this question, He had been for 30 years acquainted with the working classes, and he was prepared . to . say from the hear.) He believed the knowledge he had of them, that even if this bill were to add was small who would not 350,000 new electors to the constituency, that inspired him number hbneor of f la t r b m e w w h er a id te n v g er. nlas (H se e s ar , look for representatives amongst the educated and higher ranks of society. He hoped, therefore, th a t h ouse wou ld not en d ang er its reputation. and the confid ence w hi c h t h e coun try had in it by po st pon i ng the consideration of this question. Mr. STIRLING said the hon. member for Montrose accused the Conservative side of the house with an attempt to obstruct and delay this bill ; but he thought that ob struction had come as much from the Liberal side of the house, and rather more so, than from the Conservative side. So far from any attempt at delay on that side, very few Scotch members had spoken on the bill. He hoped the hon. member for Ayrshire would divide the house. The LORD ADVOCATE, after disclaiming any inten tion of going into any argument upon the general question of Reform, said that with regard to the arguments which had been urged on the other side of the house upon the motion for going into committee, they would have been appropriate if the three bills had been incorporated into one. As it was, however, he was at a loss to understand what bearing they had on the question. He had listened to the speech of the hon. and gallant gentleman the member for Ayrshire, with the pleasure which a well connected cl4.s -course usually inspired, and only wished that it had 'oeen devoted to a better and more consistent object. W e g reat argument he endeavoured to sustain was, that 'the three bills should be considered together, but what relation had such an argument with the question immeditAtely before them? The object of the amendment whi th oh e a.d journed debate was now considering was to ! delay legis- 1