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and he thought Government would have beenj ustified in supporting the Sardinian Government in the position which they had taken in respect to the seizure of the Cagliari. He must pr etest against the monstrous doc trine laid down by a certain school of lawyers, that how ever wrong was the condemnation of the vessel, or how ever corrupt the admimistration of justice, natives of Sardinia had no right to call for the intervention of their own Government on their behalf. Some years ago the other house, after a four nights' debate, had determined to interfere on behalf of a British subject injured by the Government of Greece, and the Noble lord the then Toreign Secretary (Lord Palmerston) was eulogised for the course which he had pursued on that occasion. The noble lord then referred to several documents, and con tended that it was the duty of the Government of this country to support the Government of Sardinia in re spect to the course which it had pursued in regard to the seizure of the Cagliari. On the 16th of the present mouth the Chancellor of the Exchever made a very important statement on this subject, very similar to that made by the noble earl the Foreign Secretary, with this exception, viz., that the international question was quite distinct from any other question raised by the capture, and interested England no more than any other maritime nation. He (the Earl of Airlie) pro tested against the distinction thus attempted to be made by the right hon. gentleman. Having further referred to the facts of the case, the noble earl stated that an intimation had been given by the Foreign-office to Count Cavour, that England would assist Sardinia in any claim which she might make upon Naples with re• epect to the Cagliari ; and he contended that England was bound to act in conformity with that intimation. Sardinia, by her brave conduct in the Russian war, had earned a title to our gratitude, and this case of the Cagliari afforded us an opportunity of ma king her some retun for her co-operation on that occasion. e nob e earl concluded by asking the ques ti o ns which we have given above. The Earl of MALMESBURY said he was not quite clear as to the information the noble earl wished to ob tain. He had occupied their lordships attention five and-twenty minutes, touching on various matters very cinch mixed up together. He should not, therefore, attempt to follow the noble earl, but should simply answer his question, and beg his pardon for not under standing him better. With regard to whether an answer bad been returned by her Majesty's Government to a note addressed by the Marquis d'Azeglio to the Earl of Malmesbury, dated 22d March, 1858, and enclosing a communication from Count Cavour to Count Gropello, dated llkh March, 1858, he had answered that note, and if tbey wished to know bow it was answered he must state a few facts. Ho had that morning received a despatch from Mr. Lyons, enclosing a note from the Sardinian Government, which he much regretted, as it expre-sea a strong feeling at what it termed the aban donment of the Sardinian by the English Government, in the affair of the Cagliari ; but he had looked through the nine months' correspondence affecting this question, and could find no promise, and nothing like a promise to co-operate with the Sardinian Government in any action they might take on this subject. The only thing tending that way arose from an errer of Mr. Erskine, contrary to his instructions, and the English Go vernment could not be bound by an error of their own representative, because if they did, under similar circum stances, they might be compelled to conclude a shameful peace, or enter upon a disgraceful war. The English Government was only accidentally mixed up with this owe of the Cagliari in consequence of the presence of the two English engineers on board that vessel. 'When he entered upon his present office, his first duty was to obtain their liberation. That had happily now been effected, and the next object was to obtain satisfaction for the injuries inflicted upon them, now that the law officers of the Crown had declared they were entitled to it. With respect to the action and feeling of the Sardinian Government, it was inclined to go to war with the King of Naples. That course her Majesty's Govern ment earnestly deprecated, because it would, in all probability, lead to a European war. He thought that hostile measures by Sardinia would lead to great dis asters, to avoid which they had further pressed upon the Government of the King of Naples, the propriety of abandoning the consfication of the Cagliari. They had urged that the mediation of a friendly power should be resorted to before appealing to arms. The Earl of Clarendon had urged that course, and he also advised the Sardinian Goveinment to have recourse to a friendly power, and he believed that also was the course urged by the other great powers of Europe, He had done all in his power to preserve the maintenance of that peace which was PO valuable to Europe. The Earl of CLARENDON thought it very im portant for a maritime power like England not to allow any illegality on the open seas, but he thought it still more important that they should not put for ward any claim or make any suggestion that they could not legally enforce. (Hear, hear.) The only question wag, whether the Cagliari was legally seized, and upon that point high authorities differed. It was perfectly absurd to say thet she had surrendered, for the facts proved that she was forcibly seised. Tne Go vernment, of which he was a member, put this question as to the legality of the seizure of the Cagliari or not, In conformity with international law, a ship of war had no right to interfere with a foreign merchantman on the high seas, unless Some act of violence had been committed, beyond inspecting her papers for the purpose of ascer taining her nationality. The law officers of the Crown were of opinion that there were peculiar circumstances in this case which justified the capture ; but from all the facts of the case, he did not think any court of admiralty 'would condemn the vessel as a lawful prize. There was evidence to show that her cargo was lawful ; that her papers were in order ; that the crew had been over powered by a superior force ; and that at the time cf the capture the vessel was actually proceeding to inform the Neapolitan Government of what had taken place. The legality of the voyage and of the car g o had been distinc . ly proved. The owner of the vessel h ad suffered enormous loss, and be (Lord Carendon) must say that the Neapoli tan Court bad violated the commonest principles of jus tice and international law in detaining the Cagliari as a lawful prize. (Hear, hear.) The charges made against the engineers were wholly without foundation, and they were clearly entitled to indemnity for their loss of time, imprisonment, and sufferings. He entirely approved of the course taken by his noble friend (the Earl of Mahnes• bury.) (Hear, hear.) _ Lord WENSLEYDALE said the question was - very important, and chiefly of a legal nature. At present the sources of information were not satisfactory, and it was also an unsatisfactory circumstances that the present and late law officers of the Crown dif fered in opinion with respect to the law. He could not help saying that be _thought the opinion of the two law officers of the Crown, to which he had re ferred, was a very proper one. Ye thought that upon so important a question as this was it would be right to refer the question to the highest legal authority , 'lamely, the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council. Ti es noble lord then cited precedents to show that in such like important cases a similar course had been pursued. Lord CAMPBELL did not concur in the suggestion that this case should be sent for consideration to the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council. That tribunal was certainly competent to deal with the question, but Parliament would be placed in a position of considerable difficulty of the:Jidicial Committee happened to dis agree. Tne Neapolitan Government would, under such circumstances, be in a better position than it was now. He rejoiced to hear that compensation was to besought for Watt and Park, against whom not a shadow of eli minatory evidence had been adduced. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE expressed a hope that the answer of the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs to the despatch of the Marquis d'Azeglio would be produced. It was:clear from the papers already pro dnoed, that the Sardinian Government expected support from that of Great Britain—not merely moral, but sub stantial support. He took exception to the remark of the noble earl, that Naples and Sardinia rep resented two extreme opinions. Sardinia represented sound con . stitutional opinion, and throughout this affair had acted with great moderation. (Hear.) The question was whether Naples was to be allowed not only by Sardinia but by us to do wrong. The answer to the above des patch would throw some light upon the subject of our relations with Sardinia, and he hoped it would be pro dace& , Lord CRANWORTH expressed a decided opinion against the proposal to remit the question to the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council. The Earl of DERBY said he had no desire to recom mend the remission of this question to the Judicial Com mittee of the Privy Council ; for, as had been observed, - it might be very inconvenient, in the event of any variety of opinion existing in that tribunal. Nor could the deci sion of the Judicial Committee be binding to the country. With respect to the question of the noble marquis oppo site (the Marquis of Clanricarde) as to what had fallen from the Secretary for Foreign Affairs, he believed that hie noble friend had not said Sardinia was a country of ex t re me opinions, for he (the Earl of Derby) considered that Sardinia, under extraordinary circumstances, had maintained sound constitutional opinions ; but that Sar dinia and Naples, with respect to their Government, represented two extremes, and that Sardinia was sup posed to represent the most extreme opinions in Italy, while Naples represented the other end of the extreme opinions in that country. It was not his intention to enter upon the points of law, or comment urn the paper, but he could not withhold the expression of his satisfaction that his noble friend (the Earl of Clarendon) bad stated his valuable concurrence in the course which her Majesty's Government had taken on this subj-ct. That concurrence of opinion on both sides of the house would materially strengthen the Government in carrying on the n ego ti a t ions now i n p rog r e s s . Th e Government _the werenot prepared to lay on the table the answer sent Government to the despatch of the Neapolitan Minister, as it would be impossible to do so during the P r° g r era of the negotiations. He had only to add, that In n what wih t t hh eeGovernment.o were now doing they were ant e n r urrence of the French Government. Tne Fre,sch Governm e n t " though t with the English Go. vertiment that the captur e of the Cagliari was illegil, but as to the question of oert:iiha.nding compensation they opinion. T he question of pecu niary not yet expressed any indemnity they had thou ght t it expedient to keep wholly apart from the question seizure and the confiscation. As difi r o t e he . le gality Of the glat enter tained different views on these points, theypersons it expedient to k ee p them entir ely distinc• bad hon t. Hie friend the Ear l of Malmesbur y had a lready stated oth they had promise d to su pp ort Sardinia i n seeking resti tutionthat of the vessel ; but that would be p ur e l y a moral support. They wculd use their good offices to bring about an amicable arrangement between the Sardinian and Neapolitan Governments ; and in that course he was happy to say they were acting in concert with France ; and the Government of the Emperor, in con junction with their own Government, had recommended the Government of Sardinia not to have recourse to arms, but to call for the mediation of a friendly Power. Ho was satisfied to find that the course they had pur- THE SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY EVENING, seed had the approbation of the noble lord opposite (the Earl of Clarendon) ; and that being so, he trusted, in the hope of bringing about an amicable settlem.nt of this question, that this would close, at least for the present, the discussions in their lordships' house on this difficult and delicate subject. (Hear.) The conversation then terminated. INDIA. The Duke of ARGYLL moved that there be laid be fore their lordships' house, the report to the general court of the East India Company from the Court of Di rectors upon the two bills now before Parliament relat ing to the government of India. The noble duke thought no blame attached to the noble earl opposite for the change he had made in the course which he had in tended to pursue when in opposition. It was undoubt edly true that the vote in the other house of Parliament (which was carried, he believed, by a majority of 200) had so essentially altered the position of her Majesty's present Government that they were fully entitled to say that, whatever might have been their opinions in opposi tion, they had no alternative but to proceed to legisla tion with regard to the government of India; and he (the noble duke) could only express his earnest hope that they would not allow the present session to come to a conclusion without the question being settled one way er the other. (Hear.) He quite agreed that so long as the Court of Directors was the de facto government of India it ought to be respected ; but no one could deny that its authority had been most materially diminished by the vote in the other house, especially when the character of the noble earl the President of the Board of Control was borne in mind. It was notorious that at no time bad the noble earl been disposed to pay much respect to the Court of Directors, and he could not conceive that what had taken place was at all calculated to increase the noble earl's deference to the Court. (Hear, hear.) He entirely concurred in the policy which the noble earl had indicated in a despatch published that morning, with re ference to the treatment of our revolted subjects in India; but it was a most remarkable circumstance that that despatch should have been sent through the secret committee. That circumstance proved that the Preei dent of the Board of Control, even under present circum stances, had an absolute authority over the whole go vernment of - India. (Hear, hear.) While he (the noble duke) approved of the determination of the present Government to proceed to legislation, he could not help thinking that the steps it had subsequently taken had only increased the difficulty of the problem they had to solve. It would he remembered thatthe n ,ble earl had last year expressed his aversion to any material change; for he said that constitutions grew up and coul I not be made. From that he should have expected that the noble earl would have made as little alteration as possible when he came into office ; and yet his plan in volved an entirely new constitution fLr India. There were in it far more elements of change ; it was much more complicated, and it was more open to the objection that it created a new constitution than the bill of the late Go vernment. It had been withdrawn, but Parliament would still have to deal with its main features concentrated into a series of abstract resolutions. A more inconvenient mode of proceeding could not be devised ;. because in a case like this the merits or demerits of a measure must depend entirely upon its details. A great deal had been said with regard to the principle of election. But there Was no principle whatever involved in the abstract idea Of election apart from the definition of those who were to be the electors, and the functions of those who were to be elected. It was a prevalent opinion that the chief difficulty in transferring the government of India from the name of the company to the name of the Queen was that which would be experienced in limiting the power ( f the Crown. In the document for which he was moving their lordships would see that the directors (oho were thoroughly conversant with the existing practice) also insisted upon the same notion—not, indeed, very con sistently, for one part of the paper was contradicted by another—not from any want of ability on the part of those by whom it had been drawn up, but in consequence of the false position in which the directors found them selves. This idea had come down to us from the great con test of 1788. The objection to Mr. Fox's bill was that it would dangerously increase the power of the Crown if the government of India were transferred to it; but the mean- ing of that objection was that the transference would give the Crown power to interfere with the commerce of In dia. Bat all that had payed away. There was now no commerce to be dealt with, and thus there was now no danger to be apprehended. (Hear.) In 1783 it was argued that there would be nothing to prevent a Minister fro:n appointing to the great pro-consular commands any per son he pleased, whatever might have been his previous qualifications or services. The danger that was then apprehended was that of the nabobs, 39 they were then called, would come back from India and emp'oy their ill-gotten wea'th in obtaining parliamentary it. fluence but all that was now completely changed, and they would now b• only too glad to secure the cervices of persons who had had experience in India for their new council. (Hear.) Again, it was contended that the pro posed council should be absolutely independent. This doctrine was laid down in one pare of the document for which he was moving, but in another part of it they were told that the council must be one not to control but to advise the Indian Minister. (Hear.) And here he must express the astonishment with which he had read a state ment of a right hon. friend of his in another place, for whom he felt the greatest respect and admiration—v;z., that the power of the President of the Board of Conlrol had of late been increasing, and that that inare,aa had not received the formal sanction of Parliament. The fact was, the machinery of the secret committee, through which the power of the Board of Control was exercised, had received the sanction of Parliament over and over again. There could be no doubt that Parliament never intended that the pwer of the executive should not be the same with regard to Indian wars and with regard to wars in Europe. It was true, it might be paid, that Par liament had an indirect check over the executive with regard to wars in Europe because it had to provide the means for carrying them on. At the same time there could be no doubt that as regarded the authority of tho executive with respect to war, it was just the same in India as in Europe. (Hear.) It would be well, however, if the principle were more generally recognised that the chief dangers of our Eastern empire were internal, and that so long as it made progress in the cause of improve ment they might disregard ail the attempts of Russia or any other foreign power. (Hear, hear.) Bat to return to the proposed council. The plan for representing special interests was the very worst that could be conceived ; and on this point he would quote the words of the noble earl (Lord Eilenborough) in 1853. [The noble duke here read an extract, in which Lord Ellenberou, h deprecated the giving to the mercantile community any direct share in the government of India, on the ground that they might make an improper use of information they re ceived.] The noble earl, again, was generally supposed to he the chief authority for the introduction of the elective principle ; but he had looked over his evidence in 1853, and he found that the noble earl only advocated else ie as an alternative if nomination was not adop' ed ; but there could be no doubt that in 1853 the noble earl gave a preference to the latter as being the mode by which men of the greatest ability could be procured. At present the beet men would not face the trouble of a can vass, and when the constituency was enlarged the objec. Cone would be proportionably increased. Indeed, when he recollected the noble earl's speeches, he must say he had been much puzzled to account for his bill. The task which lay before them was a most difficult one. They had to rule a distant empire with an absolute government on the spot and a parliamentary government at home. They had to bring to bear upon it their own purer faith, their greater knowledge, and their more perfect civilisa tion ; and they had at the same time to guard it from being wade the sport of political parties or the sacrifice of European selfishness. (Cheers.) He thought the noble earl himself must have had a higher opinion of the good sense of the English people when he found that itrefused one of the main features of his own bill, that portion of it by which he proposed to give certain great cities the right to elect a portion of his council. The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH said that whatever might be the present or future difficulties of the Govern meat of India, the present Government was re:.t rerpon sible f..r them ; because at the end of list year he bad de precated any change beyond the introduction of the Queen's name, which would have required very few altera tions to effect. Her Majesty's late Government had appa rently cot made up their minds on the subject till after Christmas. They seemed to have considered it in the races', and they introduced their bel at the cennnence went of the present session. He rejoiced to find that the noble duke was of opinion (and he hoped that the colleagues of the noble duke agreed with him) that as the question had been stirred, the present Government were bound to go oc with the proposed legislation ; for certainly after they had passed sentence upon the Court of Directors it would be most improper to leave the government of the Indian empire in the hands of a body they had thus stigmatised. (Hear, hear.) The news of the overthrow of Lord Palmerston's Government, and of the intended overthrow of the E ist India Corr.- pany, would create great confusion in India ; and what Parliament intended to do, l_t them ptoceed to do at once. They might depend upon it that the state f the country was not such as to make it advisible and desii able to add to the difficulty in which the government in India was involved. It was with the greatest gratifica tion, therefore, that he had heard the noble euke express his opinion that they ought to legislate on th e su bj ect this year. With regard to himself and the East India Company, it was impossible for the pieblic business to be conducted more amicably than it was conducted between himself and the East India Company. He was now for the fourth time at the Board of Control, and he never had a dispute with the East India Company, or with any individual member of the Board of Directors. He did not believe that the Court of Directors had thrown any obstructions in the way of her Majesty's Government ; it they would have done so at any time, they would have 'done so last year, but they had not done so, and that was not any reason for 1-gislating on the subject now The great evil of the present system was the evil f necessary del :y. He had explained the circumstances under which it was not only allowable but right to pass this letter through the secret department ; if he had passed it through the public department it would not have been brought to light by this time. The directors could not avoid the delays which occurred, and they were some times extremely serious. He would not go into a eiscu 4. sion on the resolutions or the bills, it would be irregular in him to do so. The late government proposed a council of eight persons nominated by the crown, and these eight persons must of necessity either have resided fifteen years in India or have served ten years in India. Every officer of u her M a j es t y ' s army wou ld o f necess i ty b e exc l u ded, more than that, e v e r y p erson w h o v i ewe d Indian affairs with an English mind would be praeicalle excluded. Now no person could have sat in the council in India without experiencing the great difficulty there was from not hav e r i n r g on it a p erson w ith a f res h English mind. All their were I n di an , an d so it The h would be here.only person w h o h a d E ng li sh opinions would be the Secretary of . State himself, who, he was confident, would be seriously embarrassed from the circumstance of his having no one to support him in the views that he might have. Practically, under the present system, which was one of election, there was in the court some merchant, some gentleman, who had not an Indian life before him, and whose opinions were not altogether formed in India. He considered s it was of very great advantage to preserve that element in the council, and it was of much more importance to do so now than it was five years ago. There had been a great increase in our commercial intercourse with the East ; there had been invested in railways and public works in India not less than 30,000,0001. in the course of the last four or five years. Capitalists were beginning to address themselves to India, and he thought it advisable that they should have in the council for India some persons with whom the president of the council might advise on subjects connected with commerce. In.the bill of the present Government care was taken to effect that object. Toe noble duke had said much on the principle of elec tion. On every occasion on which he (the Earl of Ellen borough) had spoken on the future government of India, he had always insisted on the council being elected. He should desire to find in that council not only men eminent in the different services of India, but the best commercial men who could be discovered. He knew that, in point of fact, the Government could not find these men. The only means of obtaining them was by election. He saw day lily day questions put about India, exhibiting the grossest ignorance of the real state of that country, which filled him with alarm, and what he desired was to give to the minister who might have the charge of India devolving upon him, a council so in dependent, so influential, that he might derive great strength from their support in resisting attacks upon it. He did not know how they were to obtain such a body except by election. The system of nomination, however well exercised, would not create a body which had the same weight and influence as a body which was elected. That was his reason for desiring to have the principle of election carried out in this council. It was no new opinion of his. He bad always looked with a degree of jealousy, almost morbid, on a newly nominated coun cil. He believed that such a council would lead to a system of jobbing. He would not have jobbed, but he did not know what others would do who followed him. The object of having an elected council was to render it impossible to make that a bad Government which they wished to be a good Government. His of jest was to lay the foundation of a government which would make India happy, strong, and powerful, and make it so in connection with this country. He thought that by con necting the council of India with some of the great cities of England he was giving a stability and an influence to the council which would enable the president of the council, when he was right, to support his opinions in %Parliament. That might be wrong, but that had been his object, and he trusted that the friends of the noble duke, acting in the spirit in which ho had spoken to night, would feel the absolute neces:ity to legislate on this subject this year. Depend upon it they must not trifle with the security of India. Earl GREY said he was particularly envious to follow the noble earl, because, although there was much in his speech in which he concurred, there was one point on which he differed both from the noble earl and from the nob'e duke—he meant as to the necessity of settling this question of the home government of India in the present year. The House of Commons had considerably it creased the difficulty, but the danger of delay was nothing compared to the danger of taking a false step. (Hear.) If they now re-organised the home government of India upon a wrong principle, in a manner not cal culated to work according to their intentions—if they took a wrong step, it would probably be irreparable. If he,had that conviction before, he mu,t say it had been strengthened by the speech of his noble friend below him. He did not think that the subject had as yet been so will investigated that any man, be he who he might, could deal with it with the wisdom which it required. Let him also say that he thought the danger of delay in re organising the home government of India was greatly exaggerated, because, after all, it was a mere question as t o the manner in which the authority of the home Government was to be exercised over the govern ment of India. At this moment the Queen's Govera ment was supreme. The President of the Board of Control exercised a power so large and so cemplete that his policy must be adopted. The noble earl told thsm that he had acted most harmoniously with the directors, that he had no difficulty with them. Now the only alteration effected by any bill he might introduce would be some modification of the manner in which the Cabinet cf the day would act on the Indian Govern ment. They would not touch materially the constitu tion of the Government in India. The people in India looked exclusively to the Governor-General, and knew nothing whatever of the authority which was exercised over him. They were utterly ignorant of the machinery by which the Court of Directors and the President of the Board of Control impressed their views on the Go vernor-General. All they looked to was the Governor- General, who, whether a bill was passed or not, would continue in their eyes to be the ruler of India. There fore, he did cot apprehend any serious difficulty in India -from delay. He did not deny that there would be some. He did not deny that the introduction of the measures made it more difficult to pause than if those measures lead not been brought forward, but still he .thought the difficulty was greatly , exaggerated, and that it was nothing at all to the danger arising from precipitation. Then, he ventured to say that the principle on which the home government of India should be constituted had hitherto been very little considered, either by the public .1 or by Parliament. A. few Months ago there ran through the country a sortof general cry, to snbetitute the power of the Crown for the power of the East India Company. That cry rose more from passion than from sober con sideration. What people really meant at that time was to transfer the government of India to the Cabinet of the day. By the constitution of this country it was aSso lately necessary that the head of the Indian department should hold his office by the uncertain tenure of a Par liamentary majority. It was therefore quite impossible that the man who held that situation should be trained to it by long Indian experience ; and to expect a person of that sort to govern India without assistance, or even to exercise that control over local administration which was necessary, seemed to he absurd. He himself bad the honour for five years and a half of holding the offic of Secretary of State fur the Colonies. Many of the colonies had representative assemblies, which prevented the necessity as to them of superintendence as to local affairs; but even with that assistance it was impossible for him to attend to the many and complicated affairs of all the colonies. India, however, was very much more extensive than all the colonies combined, and the Secre tary of State for India must be as-isted by competent advisers to exercise effectual control. He quite admitted that the Imperial Government must in the end be su preme, but there was a moral control which could only be exercised by a powerful and thoroughly independent body. (Hear.) Hitherto the Court of Directors had been such a b gly. When ho presented the petition he called their lordships' attention to the fact that in many cases the East India directors had, when they hat found justice on their side, successfully resisted the wishes of the Minister of the Crown. He thought it abso lutely necessary that the body which was about to he associated with the minister for India should have that power. The two things, responsibility and power, went together. Even Parliament itself wanted to have some moral control over the Govern ment. The interests of England and India were nut always the same. There was a well-known case, the war with Persia—n• t the recent war, but that of 1840. Their lordships might think that the cost of the war should be a burden on India, and not on the people of England. It was essential, therefore, that there should be some body which was able to exercise an independent authority, which would be able t ) state the case of India in a manner that would demand attention, and to insist upon justice being done. But how wee that to be acoorn plished by the bill of the late government. They were to have a council of eight persons named by the crown, only for eight years, two of them going out annually, so there would always be in the council two .persons going out, and anxious to be re-appointed, and two who had just come in, and therefore there would be no check on the minister. He could not c )ncur with the noble ea. I, however, in what he said as to the principle of election. An election was an excellent means of obtaining the opinion of the electors on matters in which they were concerned, bet he was quite at a lose to know how the electors of the City of London, for instance, could be expected to make a Also choice of a person to administer the affairs f India. If they !sad a numerous constituency of that -ort an election could not be won except by management out of doors, and which would be liable to abuse. The great fault of the existing arrangement was the mode of electing the directors. He thought it worth considering whether the best course would notlbe to adopt avowedly, and with soma precautions, some system of self-election, but subject to the check that the nomination should not take effect without the approbation of the crown and the names being laid before both Houses of Parliament. Thera were various considerations connected wit ) this subjec', which was not yet ripe for legislation. It should be farther discussed not only in Parliament but out of doors, and hereafter, he believed, it might be dealt with much more satisfactorily than it could be at present. Therefore be for one raj Bred at the great change of opinion which had taken place on this 3 ilejec'. A little while ago the public seemed to be in favour of a sudden change in the form of government. That had passed away, and it was a very remarkable circumstance that both ties late Government and the present Govern ment, in introducing their respective bills for the aboli tion of the East India C ,nspany, had tried which could go fur hest in praising that body. And what was the prospect of legislating this session ? Taey were now at the end of April, and the resolutions on which they were to found a bill were still to be discussed in the House of Commons, and to be discussed in this state of things, that they had the present Government pr'apo s sing one bill, the heart of the present Government proposing another bill, and a n , ble lord who was formerly at the head of another Government proposing another plan. Then they had the Chamber of Commerce in Manchester re commendinggsluoipntepeutsaheinthegha,at:a,nd the Chamber of Commerce 1 1 1;1 Liverpool recommending something quite difFerent. Caul“ t re w k a e s y could which wlegislateasdt,i desirable? e ?t se il i n ti s : h. : f u ocu c t o h: l la i wt n s i i ttioic th it at on tdtt the g l h e m o e i l oi n t s n i e s er i r , ' a j t:h i c o e t y t . ) Go vernment abandoned all idea of legislating en this sub ject this session, the better. Earl GRANVILLE did not understand why the speech of his noble friend (E,rlGn=y) had been cheered by the other side, for in its views it had been utterly opposed to the scheme of the Government. He would venture to add very few 'observati.ms, but when the nob!e °srl said that the present state of things with re gard to the future of India was the fault of the late Go vernment, he must be permitted to my that his noble friend was gr-atly ini4taker. (gear.) The noble earl seemed to think that the late Government had hastily framed their bill on this subj,ct, Now, he had not had the great experience of some noble lords, but so far as his ex perience went, ke must say that he never knew a bill so fully considered as the bid of the late Government on India, The noble lord (Ellenborongb) said that he was always in favour of an elective council. But in a speech which he made in that house some time since he had himself stated that he should prefer the nominee system. (Hear.) This was not an old but a late opinion of the noble earl. In this very year he had said that the members of the Board of Directors which were nominated by the Government were worth all the rest. The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH—That was a bad constituency ; I provide a good one. Earl GRANVILLE—WeII, then, it was very strange thatl the noble earl's colleagues should have so soon abandoned that constituency. Lord ELLENBOROUG - 11—We have not abandoned the constituencies to which irefor., Eerl GRANVILLE—ReaIIy it was very difficult to follow the noble earl, because ire this bill there were so many constituencies; all in el sbence at one time. The noble earl had to-night spoken very highly in favour of his commercial constituency, and hail stated that great results would come of evading one.Felf of their knowledge. But he (L , rd Granville) remembered that some time since the noble earl had expressly stated that a council for India should be well versed in Indian matters, and he had then asked triumphantly, " Would a man go to his bankers for information on India?" (Hear, hear.) Really it seemed that the noble earl had forgotten to night the statements which he had made on former oc caeione. (Hear, hear.) regard to the question of going on, he certainly agreed with the noble earl on that point, for much had cow been done towardsthe assump tion of the government of Irdia by the Crown, and to let it go out to that country that the intentions of the Government had been thwarted at home would be fraught with great danger to our Indian empire. (Hear, hear.) There were many other points upon which he could have addreeeed their lordships, but at that late hour he would not venture to weary them. (Hear, hear.) He would only say that be quite believed in the honour and public spirit of the noble earl opposite—(hear, hear) —but he must add, that a more dangerous bill than the one he had submitted to the house it was impossible to conceive. (Hear.) _ Lord MON LEA. GLE pointed out to the house that it was highly inconvenient that their lordships should pro ceed with a discussion like the present, when no measure was before them. He deprecated the discussion of this question with the meagre information now lo,fore the house. When on former occasions less changes than the present were contemplated, greater care had been taken to oLcain conclusive and reliable information. This was the most difficult solution of the Indian question that was ever presented to them.. He believed that the Go vernment would come at last to the postponement of the question, and would not be sorry to arrive at that con clusion. He did not believe there was any feeling in the country in favour of legislation. Bill after bill might be introduced, but he was convinced the result would show the impracticability of legislation. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE said his noble friend appeared t f irget that the pending legislation was but a preliminary step. What was required was the en tiro reorga.c.isation of the government of India, and the first step towards that was to get rid of t'ie Court of Directors, who had hitherto prevented measures of im provement from being carried ont in India. The cry of Indian reform had been called a senseless cry ; it was not a s9nseless cry ; it arose from the fact that the Bri tish felt that they had not derived such advantages from their magnificent possessions in India as they ought to have done, and could not do so while the present system of government continued. The almost unanimous opi nion of the public in favour of a change wag founded en a conviction that India ha-1 been greatly neglected, that its resources had not been developed, and that the coun try had been kept in a disgraceful condition. The com mercial interests would not stand any longer the non development of the products of Indic, and the want of eff to bring them to the aid of our manufacturers. There must be changes in the administration of the laws, fiscal changes, changes in the military organisation; and were these ' he ask e d, c h ang es to be entrusted to the handa cf those who had brought about the present state of things? It was now 12 months ago since he proposed an alteration of the system, aid he hoped, after what had recently occurred, there would be no further delay. The motion was then agreed to. Their lordships adjourned at half-past 10. HOUSE O COMMONS.—(YESTERDAY.) The SPEAKER took the chair at 4 o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. . . The bilowingbidi were road a third time and pa;sed: Burghead Harbour ; Maneheater A.,s;z j Court House ; Manchester Itnprovemant ; and Tay Fisherieß. The Birmingham Canal Navigation Bill and the Vale cf Towy Railway 131113 were further considered and ordered to be real a third time. ADMISSION OF JEWS TO PARLIAMENT. Mr. NEWDEGATE corrected an error into which be fell on a former occasion relative to the Jews of Prussia. stated on the occasion referred to that Jews were not admitted to the Prussian Chamber of Depu ties, but from information he had received from Prussia he found they were admitted, and he took that oppo: tunity of correcting the err r alluded to. He complained, amidst the impatience of the house, of statements having been attributed to him in reference to the Jews which he h , .d never uttered. ORDERS OF TUE DAY. Mr. WA.LPOLE, in the temporary absence of the Charcell. , ,r of the Exchequer, moved that on and after Thursday. the 13. h day of may next, ordera of the day or. Thuraday4 simouind have;" zrectedenee of notices of motion. Mr. W. WILLIA\IS objected to the motion on' the ground that the business of the house did not rtquire such a sacrifice on the part of independent member,?. This was the first time he ha 1 ever known a similar motion made so early in the session. The Government had no important business before the h )use that rtn , tiered the motion necessary. In rep) , to a que,tion from Mr. BRIGHT, Mr. WALPOLE said that the object of his propos ing the motioa before the house was to facilitate the progress of the Church-rates Bill a n d th e J o i nt-stock Companies Bill. It would not be a Government night, but an open night. (Flesr, hear.) After some remarks from Sir G. GREY and Mr. M. GiusoN, _ The motion was agreed to. The SPEA.KER announced that, in consequence of the motion jolt agreed to, hon. members might fix the motion until TusAay, 18th May. civil an military, referred to in the question, he could only say that some of t•iem were exercising military commands in connection with their civil appointments, and of course, if they distinguished themselves, they would be recommended f )r distinction by the Comman der-in-Chief. The civil officers came um -I .er the attention of the Governor-General of India, who had the power to award distinctions and rewards. In answer to a question from Sir H. VERNEY, Mr. BAILLIE • said that about a month ago the noble lord the President of the Marl of Control wrote letters to some of the most distinguished of the Indian princes, thanking them, in the nama of her Majesty, for the services they had rendered under circumstances of great peril in India. MAYNOOTH COLLEGE. Mr. SPOONER moved that this house do resolve it self into a c +mmittee to consider the Acts for the Endowment of Maynooth, with a view to tha withdrawal of any endowment out of the Consolidated Fund, due regard being had to vested rights and interests. The hon, gentleman said he should not inflict on the house a lonre7epeech. (Loud cheers.) He had so often addressed the house on this subject that it was difficult to intro duce anything new into the debate. (Hear, hear, and cheers.) He, however, entered generally on the subject, and, in conclusion, called the atten tion of the house to the fact that the Synod of Armagh had recently passed a resolution similar to that passed in 1853, that the priests, under the direc tion of the bishops, should interfere in the election if poor-law guardians and members of Parliament. They had heard lately a, great deal about foreign interference, but what did they say to this interference of the Pope He urged on the house the necessity of their consenting to his motion. (Cries of Divide.) Mr. WALPOLE. as neither of the hon. members who bad given notice of amendments had proposed them, rose to oppose the motion on two grounds—first, that when a great questioe had been settled by Par liament it was not wise to disturb it, unies4 it was clearly proved there were great objections to it, and he was inclined to think the benefit expected to be realised I from the change would be more than counterbalanced by the great evils that would result from the agitation of the question in Ireland. His steeled objec tion was that, when Sir It. Peel proposed the grant, he called it, in emphatic language, the " message of peace to Ireland." Whether it deserved that designation to the full extent he would not then consider, but of this he was sure, if they succeeded in repealing the grant, it would be considered by the people of Ireland as a re versal of that policy, and lo )ked upon almost as tanta mount to a declaration of war. He therefore could not consent to the motion. Mr. NEWDEGATE, amidst loud cries of "Divide," and the impatience of the house, spoke in support of the motion. After a few words in reply from Mr. SPOONED, The house divided. Tte numbers were — For the motion Against it Maj irity against the moti )n --55 THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL v. LORD VIVIAN INDIA. Mr. DIVETT gave Notice that he should, in the event of the motion cf the noble lord the member for London being put from the chair relative to India, move as an a nendme n t t h at i t was inexpedie n t t o proceed fui Vier with reference to the future government of India during the continuance in office of the present Government. (Hear, hear, and laughter.) EXECUTOR ANO PROBATE (SCOTLAND). Toe LORD ADVOCATE gave notice of hia intention to introduce a bill relative to the law of executor and probate. MR. JAMES, AND DR. BERNARD. Mr. HUNT ga ve notice that be should to-cum row call the attentio n cf the S-cretary of State for the Home Department to the rep in the public papers, of a public meeting held at St. Martin'S-liall, for the purpose o f eeta,bli s i i i ng . a prays prosecution defence fund, at which one of her Dlaie'tY's counsel was present, and took part in the p r oceedings, and alto to ask if it w.ts competent for a Qieen's Counsel to refuse to Bold a brief for the Crown in a State prosecution. (Hear.) CLIURCII RATES. Sir J. TRELAWNY postponed the further progre.s of the church ra!e abolition bill until Thursday the 13th of May tier. MUNICIPAL FRANCIIISE (BELFAST). Mr. M`MATION asked the Chief Secretary for Ire land why the return relating to the Municipal Franchise at Belfast, ordercd on the 28th August last, and agan on Friday, the 16th of this month, hai not been pre sented to the house. Lord NAAS, after explaining the cause of the delay, said the returns woull shortly be ready and laid on the table of the house. ADMISSION OF BARRISTERS. Mr. NI'MALION called the a'.tentiou of the Attorney- General for Irtlatld to the circumstance, that students who were not graduates of a university were admitted to the bar in E, gland after three years' attendance at the Inns of Court, but were not admitted to the bar in Ireland till after five year,' attendance ; and asked him whether the Govtrwuent would have acy objection, if the beneLarsin Ireland . -refused to modify their rules s o as to remove this anomaly, to introduce a measure on the subject The AT I ' O RNEY-GENERAL for IRELAND' said he would draw the attention of the proper authorities to the distinction referred to. He thought it was unneces sary to answe r the latter part of the question, because the probability was it would now be brought under the notice of the bencers, who wool I remove the anomaly. GOV EIZ:NTMENT TRANSLATORS. Mr. EVAN s asked the Under-Secretary for Fdreign Affairs, by whom the French and Italian papers in the eorresp )nd'euee respecting the Cagliari were translated, arid who was responsible f,r the accuracy of the trans lations. Mr. S. F LTZ r dERALD explained that one gentleman in the Foreig4-office usually did the translations, but in reference to the particular papers referred to, it was necessary to cif! in the assistance of others to translate then in a snort 'pace of time, that they might be laid on the table of th e in thew; thug house ; and if there were any inaccuracies - - 4 Y arose from the circumstance that the Wipers which were sufficient to require six or seven weeks to translate them, had to be done in six or seven days. BEER HOUSES. Viscount GODERIOH. asked the Secretary for the Horne Department whether it was his intention to bring in any ii! during the present se.isiJn for the I:23nsing and regulation (4 beer houses ? Mr. -WALPOLE said it was his intention. (Hear.) P , IDIAN REWARDS. KINNAIRD asked the Secretary f the Thard of Control whether it was the intention of the Govern ment to give honorary distinctions not only to those in India who hal distinguished themselves in the field, but t) thoi.o persons, natives as we'l as Eu• r"P€ncot who had, through their wisdom and energy, Prevented mutiny and bloodshed ; as, for example— Colonel Herbert Edwards at Peshawur ; Brigadi,ir Syd ney Cotton in the Punjaub ; General Bell in Pegu ; Major Davidson at Hyderabad ; Brigadier Coffin at Secunderabad!; Mr. U. C. Tucker at Bewares ; Mr. Montg"aerY and Mr. M'Leod at Lahore ; and General Roberts of R Mr. BAILLIF said it was the intention of her Ma jesty's Governtnert to recommend those civil ans who had distinguished themselves in the field flr distinction. With respect to the natives who may have so distin guished themselves, the Governor GeLeral of India had the power of ccnferring distinctions on them. With regard to the names of the various distinguished officers, AND TEE PRINCE OF WALES. Mr. A. smrra moved for papers relating to an award in the cause of "The Attorney-General v. Lard Vivian and the Prince of Wales." The motion, after some remarks from Mr. G. HAIM. TON, was negatived. NON-PAROCHIAL REGISTERS. On the motion of Mr. HAMILTON, leave was given to bring in a bill for amending the act concerning non parochial registerA. MALT. Mr. J. LOCKE moved for an account of the total number of quarters of malt made in the United King dom, from the Ist day of October, 1856, to the Ist day of October, 1857, distin2uishing the quantity made and the quantity used by brewers and victuallers, and by retail brewers, in each noun.ry (in continuation of Par liamentary paper, No. 20, of session 2, 1857). The motion was agreed to. BEER. _ _ Mr. J. LOCKE reovedf I.an account of the number of barrel.; of beer exported from the United Kingdom, and the declared value thereof, and where exported to, from the let day of October, 1856, to the let day of Oc tober, 1857, distinguielling from England, Scotland, and Ireland. The motion was agreed to. BREWERS. Mr. J. LOCKE moved for an account of the number of persons in each of the several collections of the United Kingdom lic-nsed as brewers, victuallers, to sell beer to be drunk on the premises, and to sell beer not to be drunk on the premises, stating the number of each class who brew their own beer, and the quantity of malt con sumed by them, particularising each class in each collec tion, from the 10th day of October, 1855, to the 10th day of October, 1856, and from the 10th day of October, 1856, to the 10th day of October, 1857 (in continuation of Parliamentary paper No. 155, of session 1856). The mo ion was agreed to. SEATS OF MEMBERS. Mr. FITZ ROY moved that the resolution of Marob 29, "That any member having secured a seat at prayers hall be entitled to retain the same until the rising of the house," be made a standing order. Mr. WARREN sung-sled that the words " not withstanding a division" should be added. This, however, was withdrawn. Sir D. NORREYS thought a committee might be eppointea to iraw op a rule the, ,ct. Mr. BENTINCK rawiuded the house that three years azo Mr. Muritz m)v,2d the same resolutiln, which was affirmei. Sir J. SHELLEY thought that those who attended should keep their ulace.. Sir E. COLEBROOKE thought the matter might safely be leit to the courtesy of members themselves. The motion WM agreed to. RIVER THAMES. Mr. KENDALL nominated the following as the select committee on the River Thames :—Mr. Viscount Palmerston, Lord John Russell, Lord John Manner', Viscount Goderic), Mr. Bouverie, Mr. Percy, Sir Btnjamin Hall, Sir John Yarde Buller, Mr. Stephen son, Mr. John Licke, Mr. Tite, Mr. Cayley, Mr. Akroyd, and Mr. Roupell. POOR LAW AMENDMENT BILL. The house went into comnsittee on this bill. Mr. ESTCOURT said there had been considerable misapprehension about this bill. All it sought to accom plish was to correct some anomalies which at present existed in municipal elections. The two acts in existence varied in many respec s, but the bill would pat owners and occupiers on the same footing. Mr. SPOONER inquired whether the bill would over ride private act , I Mr. ESTCOURT said it would not. After some further discussion the clauses were agreed to, and the house resumed. REGISTRATION OF COUNTY VOTERS (SCOT LAND) BILL. Sir E. COLEBROOKE moved the second reading of this bill. The question was not a new one, for it had bean br years before Parliament. Until two years ago, in Scotland as regarded boroughs, and up to the present time with regard to counties, the registration was the same as in England ; but when a new valuation was made a different system of registration for counties and boroughs was adopted. The borough act had been two years in operation, and it had worked efficiently. The object of this bill was to assimilate the county registra tion to it. If the bill were r,ad a second time, he would name a distant date for the committee. Mr. G. DUNDAS moved, as an amendment, that it be read a second time that day six months. The bill entailed great expense, and ought not to be agreed to till the county meetings in Scotland were hell. Mr. C. BRUCE seconded the amendment. He like wise opposed the bill on account of the expense. Mr. COWAN denied that the bill would involve much xdense. Lo d ELCHO said that they ought first to ascertain how the bill worked in the boroughs. Mr. CRSUFURD supported the bill. The LORD ADVOCATE said that till they were in better condition to deal with the question, and kne what ( xpense a similar measure in the boroughs had caused, they should not pass such a measure, but he would not oppose the second reading. Mr. MONCRIEFF said that the experiment in the boroughs had been completely successful. Mr. G. DUNDAS withdrew his amendment, and the bill was real a second time. JURIES (IRELAND) BILL. Mr. S. FITZGERALD moved the second reading of this bill, the object of which was to c.ms)lidate and amend the law in accordance with the suzvestions of the committee who sat on this subject in 1852 The hon. member was proceeding to make some comments on the operation of the existing system, wLen, There being but 28 members present, the house was counted out at 2S minulei before eight o'clock. A. special meeting of the London and South-Western Railway Company 13 called for the 13th May, to con sider a number of important bills affecting the cora p n y'e interests. FATAL COLLISION ON THE EAST COAST. —Foua LIVES LOST.—The part;culars of a co bsion near the Dudgeon light-vessel, which terminated in the loss of the brig Jessie, of Shields, and her captain and three of the crew, were received Lloyd's yesterday. The Jessie was coal laden, and was on a voyage from the Tyne to London. Oa Sunday evening between nine and ten o'clo .k she was some five or six miles from the Dud geon light ship, which bore W.S.W., the weather corning on thick, when she was run into by a schooner, apparently in ballast, bound north. The starboard bow of the Jessie was stove in, and it was immediately disc ivered that she was sinking. An attempt - was made to lower the boat, but before that could be accom plished she went down in deep water, carrying with her the master, Captain B-tines, a native a the Tyne ; Tboe. Mountain, a seaman of Sbielda ; George Simms, seaman of L •ith ; and Th enas Davis, an apprentice of London. The three survivors of the creee managed to get hold of a piece of a boat and a ladder, upon which they fl ated for nearly two hours. Their cries attracted the atten•. tion of the brig Ann, of Forvey, which bore dawn and picked them up. Tao name of the schooner which was in collision with the Jessie could not be ascertained. It is stated that she pursued her course, and made no effort to render assistance, although hailed to do so. /PS FIRST VOYAGE.—The other day, a greenhorn, starting from Peterhead port, -on his first voyage in a small sloop, during a swell in the sea, ran, as soon as the vessel began to rill on leaving the harbour, and cling ing tenacieudy to the mast looked eagerly towards the master at the helm and cried out, " Fat are ye de( in' kitlin, kitlin at her bine hack ther e, an' y e dinna coeie forrit as fast 's ye can an' help use to haul her up, I'll be forc't tat" het , o ever i' the water.--d berdeen PIVB3. APRIL 30, 1858. BANK RETURNS. An Account, pursuant to the Act seventh and eighth Victoria, cap. 32, of the Average Amount of Bank Notes of the several Banks of Issue in England and Wales, in Circulation during the Week ending Satur day, the 17th day of April, 1858 : Average Amount. . 8,693 PRIVATE BANKS. Andover Bank, Andover—Heath and Co. Ashford Bank, Ashford—Jeramitt Pomfret,and Co Aylesbury Old Bank, Aylesbury—Z. D. Hunt 20,628 Baldock Bank and Baldock and Biggleswade Bank, Baldock—Wells, Hogge, and Co 26,839 Barnstaple Bank, Barnstaple—Marshall and Co 8,652 Basingstoke and Odiham Bank, liasmgstoke-- Seymour, Lamb, and Co. Bedford Bank, Bedford—Barnard and C ,, . ... 33,7 05 Bewdley Bank, Bewdley Nichols, Baker, and Co Bicester and Oxfordshire Bank and Oxford Bank, Bicester----11. M. and G. Tubb 14,469 Birmingham Bank, Birmingham —Attwoods, Spooner, and Co 23,025 Birmingham and Warwickshire Bank, Bir mingham—J. L. Moilliet and Sons Blandford Bank, Blandford—Oak and Co. Boston Bank, Boston—Clavpons and Co. Boston Bank, Boston—T. Gee and Co. Bridgwater Bank, Bridgwater—J. and J. L Sealey Bristol Bank, Bristol—Miles, Miles, and Co 31,151 Broseley and Bridgnorth and Bridgnorth and Broseley Bank, Broseley—Pritchards, Boy cott, and Co. Buckingham Bank, Buckingham—Bartlett, Par rott, and Co. Bury and Suffolk Bank, Sudbury Bank, and Stowmarket Bank, Bury St. Edmunds— Oakes, Bevan, and Co. Banbury Bank, Banbury —J. C. and A Gillett Banbury Old Bank, Banbury—Cobb and Son 26,043 Bedfordshire Leighton Buzzard Bank, Leighton Buzzard—Bassett, son, and Co. Birmingham Bank, Birmingham—Lloyds &Co 23,160 Bradford Old Bank, Bradford, Yorkshire H A. and W. M. Harris and Co. Brecon Old Bank, Brecon—Wilkins and Co 34,329 Brighton Union Bank, Brighton—Hall, West, and 09. Burlington and Driffield Bank Burlington— Harding, Smith, and Co Bury St. Edmunds Bank, Bury St. Edmunds— Worlledge and Co 2,421 Cambridge Bank, Cambridge—Mortlock &Co 12,442 Cambridge and Cambridgeshire Bank, Cam bridge—Messrs. Fosters Canterbury Bank, Canterbury—Hammond and Co Carmarthen Bank, Carmarthen—David Morris and Sons 15,590 Chertsey Bank, Chertsey—La Coste and Son. 2,966 Colchester Bank, Colchester—Round, Green, and Co. Colchester and Essex Bank, and Witham and Essex Bank, and Hadleigh, Suffolk, Bank, Colchester—Mills, Bawtree, and Co 34,921 Cornish Bank, Truro—Tweedy and Co 40,315 Coventry Bank, Coventry—Little & Woodcock 5,285 City Bank, Exeter—Milford and Co 17,070 Craven Bank, Settle—Alcocks, Birkbecks, and 11,475 44,030 81 391 Co Chepstow Old Bank, Chepstow Bank, Mon mouth Old Bank, Monmouth Bank, Brecon Bank, and Ross and Herefordshire Bank, Chepstow—Bromage, Snead, and Co Derby Bank, Derby—W. and S. Evans & Co Derby Bank, Derby—Samuel Smith and Co Derby Old Bank and Scarsdale and High Peak Bank, Derby—Crompton, Newton, and Co Devizes and Wiltshire Bank, Devizes—Locke and Co Diss Bank, Diss—Fincham, and Co Doncaster Bank and Retford Bank, Doncaster —Cooke and Co.. Darlington Bank, Durham Bank, and Stockton on-Tees Bank, Darlington—Backhouse & Co Devonport Bank. Devonport— Hodge and Co Dorchester Old BAnk and Dorsetshire Bank, Dorchester—R. and H. Williams Fast Cornwall Bank, Liskeard—Robins, Fos ter, and Co East Riding Bank, Beverley—Bower and Co Essex Bank and Bishop's Stortford Bank Chelmsford—Sparrow, Round, and Co Exeter Bank, Exeter—Sanders and Co Farringdon Bank and Bank of Wantage, Far ringdon—Barnes, Medley, and Co Farnham Bank, Farnham—Messrs Knight Faversham Bank, Faversham—Hilton and Co. Godalming Bank, Godalming—Mellersh and Keen Guildford Bank, Guildford—Messrs. Haydon Grantham Bank, Grantham—Hardy and Co Hereford City and County Bank, Hereford-- Matthews and Co. Hull Bank and Kingston-upon-Hull Bank, Hull, Smith, Brothers, and Co. Huntingdon Town and County Bank, Hunting don—Veasey and Co. Harwich rank, Harwich—Cox, Cobbold, and Co. Hertfordshire, Hitchin Bank, Hitchin Sharples, and Co. Hereford, Ross and Archenfield Bank, and Ross and Archenfield Bank, Ross Morgan and Co Ipswich Bank, Ipswich—Bacon and Co. Ipswich and Needham Market Bank, Suffolk, Hadleigh Bank, Manningtree and Mistley Bank, and Wordbridge Bank, Ipswich— Alexa.nders and Co. Kentish Bank, Maidstone—Mercer, Randall, and Co. Kington and Radnorshire Bank, Kington— Davies and Co. Knaresborough Old Bank and Ripon Old Bank, K n aresborough—Harrison and Co Kendal Bank, Kendal—Wakefield, Crewdson and Co. Lane End Staffordshire Bank, Lane End—C Harvey and Son Leeds Bank, Leeds--Beckett and Co. •• Leeds Union Bank, Leeds —W. Williams, Brown and Co. Leicester Bank, Leicester—T. &T. T Paget Lewes Old Bank, Lewes—WhitfiPld and Co Lincoln rank, Lincoln—Smith, Ellison, and Co Llanclovery Bank, Lampeter Bank, and Llan dilo Bank, Llandovery—D. Jones and Co Loughborough Bank, Loughborough—Middle ton and Cradock Lymington Bank, Lymington—S, and G. F St. Barb* Lynn Regis and Lincolnshire Bank, Lynn Regis—Gurneys and Co. Lynn Regis and Norfolk Bank, Lynn Regis— Jarvis and Co Macclesfield Bank, Macclesfield—Brocklehurst and Co. Manning-tree Bank, Manningtree—Nunn and Co. Marlborough Bank, Marlborough and Wilts Old Bank, Marlborough Old Bank, Marl borough Old Bank and Hungerford Bank, and Hung wford Bank, Marlborough—Tan ner and CO Merionethshire Bank, Dolgelly—Williams and Son Miners' Bank, Truro—Willyams and Co Monmouthshire Agricultural and Commercial Bank, Abergavenny—Bailey and Co Monmouth Cld Bank, Monmouth Bank, Bre con Bank, Chepstow Bank, Chepstow Old Bank, and . Ross and Herefordshire Bank, Monmouth—Bromage, Snead, and Co Newark Bank, Newark—Godfrey and Riddell Newark and Sleaford Bank, and Sleaford and Newark Bank, Sleaford—Handley, Peacock, and Co Newbury Bank, Newbury—Bunny & Slocock Newmarket Bank, Newmarket—Eaton, Ham mond, and Co Norwich Crown Bank and Norfolk and Suffolk Bank, Norwich—Harveys and Hudsons Norwich and Norfolk Bank, Norwich—Gur ___ _ _ 66,534 7,934 12,948 40,860 neys and Birkbecks Nottingham and Nottinghamshire Bank, Not tingham, Hart, Fellows, and Co Nuneaton Bank, Nuneaton—Craddock and Co Naval Bank, Plymouth, Plymouth—Harris and Co. - - New Sarum Bank, Sarum—Everett and C 0.... Nottingham Bank, Nottingham—Samuel Smith and Co. . Oswestry Bank and Oswestry Old Bank, Os westry—Croxon and Co Oxford Old Bank, Oxford—Parsens and Co. 011 Bank, Tonbridge, Tonbridge and Ton bridge Wells Old Bank, Tonbridge and Ton bridge Wells and Sevenoaks Bank, Ton bridge—T. 11. and S. Benching Oxfordshire Witney Bank, Witney—J. W Clinch and Sons Pease's Old Bank, Hull, the Hull Old Bank and Beverly Bank, Hull—Pease and Co__ Penzance Bank, Penzance—Batten and Co. Peterborough Bank and Oundle Bank, Peter borough—D. Yorke and Co. .... . .............. Pembrokeshire Bank, Haverfordwest—J. and 26,88' 7,782 10,079 58,791 85,538 9,215 43,329 79,988 53,003 89,494 25,802 7,207 10,035 6,120 4,980 13,286 30,543 12,9 E 21,021 44,981 4,066 31,550 18,918 20,491 61,326 9,681 22,329 19,510 43,838 5,240 61,635 86,520 27,261 21,922 80,611 17,229 6,95 3,93 32,43! 10,773 13,479 2,381 12,356 26,212 10,844 19,940 52,573 17,840 :15,993 49,825 12,819 8,271 3,020 20,251 8,818 32,372 8,738 32,344 7,376 10,088 43,905 7,23 G 9,285 6,817 25,062 W. Walters .......................................... Reading Bank, Reading—Simonds and C 0..... Reading Bank, Reading—Stephens, Blandy, and Co. ............................................... Richmond Bank, Richmond—Roper and Co. Rochdale Bank, Rochdale—Clement, Royds, and Co. ............................................... Rochester, Chatham, and Strood Bank, Roches ter—Day and Nicholson ......................... 7,056 Royston Bank, Royston—Fordham and Sons 13,615 Rugby Bank, Rugby—A. Butlin and 50n...... 9,446 Rye Bin's, Rye— R. C. P om f re t , & C 0....... 11835 rt. )3 . Old B an k, H ere d fordshire , , Ross All:Away and Macdougal .................... 4409 Saffron Walden and Noah Essex B an k , Saf fron Walden—Gibsons and Co. .. 27,568 Salop Bank Shrewsbury—Burton, Lloyd, and Co. 11,739 Scarborough Old Bank, Scarborough —Wood all and C o .22,62 Shrewsbury Old Bank and Shrewsbury and Ludlow Bank, Shrewsbury-- Roeke, Ey tons, and Co 2 4 ,374 Sittir•gbourne hnd Milton Bank, Sittingbourne —Valia nce an d C o. Southampton Town and County Bank, South -11,559 ampton—Maddison and Pearce 27,498 5,646 3,175 Seuthwell Bank, Sollikwell—Wylde and Co Sonticampton and Hampshire Bank, South:imp ton—Atherley, Fill, and Co. Stafford Old Bank, Stafford----Stevenson and Co. Stamford and Rutland Bank, Stamford —Eaton, Cayley and Co. Shrewsbury and Welshpool Bank, Shrewsbury —Beck, Downward, and Co. Taunton Bank, Taunton—H. and R. Badcock 22,966 TaTistoek Bank, Tavistock—Gill and Rundle 8,798 Thornburg Bank, Thornbury—Rolph and Co. 9,506 Tiverton and Devonshire Bank, Tiverton.-L- Dunsford and Co. Thrapston and Kettering Bank, Northampton shire—Thrapston, Yorke and Eland Trine- Bank and Chesham Bank, Tring—But car and Son Towcester Old Bank, Towcester—Percival and Co Town and County of Poole Bank and Ring wood and Poole Bank, Poole—G. W. Led gard and Sons Union Bank, Corwall, Helston—Vivian and Co Uxbridge Old Bank, Uxbridge—Hull, Smith, andCo Wallingford Bank, Wallingford—Hedges, Wells, and Co. Warwick and AVarwicksbire Bank, Warwick— Greaves and Co. Wellington Somerset Bank, Wellington—Fox, Brothers, and Co West Riding Bank, Wakefield, and Pontefract Bank, Wakefield— Leatham, Tew, and Co Whitby Old Bank, Whitby—Simpson, Chap man, and Co Winchester, Alresford, an d Alt on B an k, Win chester—Bulpett and Co Winchester and Hampshire Bank, Winchester —Wickham and Co Weymouth Old Bank and Dorchester Bank, Weymouth—Eliott and Pearce Wirksworth and Ashbourne Derbyshire Bank, Wirksworth—Arkwright and Co Wisbech and Lincolnshire Bank, Wisbech— Gurneys and Co Wiveliscombe Bank, Wiveliscombe—P. and. W. Hancock Wolverhampton Bank, Wolverhampton— Good ricke and Holyoake •• Worcester Bank, Wercester—Farley, Laven der, and Co Worcester Old Bank and Tewkesbury Old Bank, Worcester—Berwick, Lechmere, and Co Worcestershire Bank, Kidderminster—Farley, Turner, and Co Walsall Old Bank, Walsall—Charles Forster and Sons Wolverhampton Bank, Wolverhampton—R and W. F. Fryer 7,030 Yarmouth and . Suffolk Bank, and Halesworth and Suffolk Bank, Yarmouth—Gurneys, Birbeck, and Co 39,850 Yarmouth, Norfolk, and Suffolk Bank, Great Yarmouth—Sir E. H. K. Lacon, Bart., and Co Tork Bank, York-- Swann, Clough, and Co 38,808 11,435 2,921 12,317 26,747 . 1e,332 11,470 13,986 6,885 8,431 15,083 11,881 6,238 21,506 2,405 40,267 13,519 16,332 12,296 34,089 49,070 1,427 11,026 51,592 Country Markets MANC EIESTER -APRIL 2). There wa3 an average attindance this morning, and the demand for wheat and flour was firm, at an advance of Is to 28 per qr on English, and 2d per 701 be on foreign. Flour a fair sale, at is higher. Oats Id per 451bs, and English and foreign beans is per qr dearer. Indian corn brought is more money. Oatmeal was firm, at fully late prices. LOUTH-APRIL 28. This day's market. was very well attinded, and a large supply of grain of all sorts. Wheat met with a fair sale, at is to 2s over previous rates. Wheat, red, 41s to 43s ; mixed, 45s ; white, 495; barley 31s to 37s ; oat 22s to 26s ; beans, 38s to 435. NEWARK—Aram 28. At our corn market to-day there was a large attend- ance, and wheat and oats met a brisk sale, realising an advance of is per qr. Wheat, white 45a to 475, red 40e to 465; barley, malting 40s to 425, grinding 34 s t o 365; oats, 12st. 30t to 325, list . 2P,s to bOs ; beans, 40s to 46s ; malt, 70s to 72s ; peas, 40e to 42s ; tares —s to —s per qr. BOSTON—APRIL 28. We had a good attendance of buyers to-day, and a fair supply of grain of all sorts. Wheat wet a slow sale, at 2s advance. Spring oorn in demand, and prices fully sup ported. Prices :—Wheat, red, 38s Od to 45s (k 1; new, —s to white, 43s Od to 464 Od; extra, 48s. Barley, 28s Od to 33s 01. Oats 18s to 265. Peas, 40 to 45s Od. Beans, 39$ Od to 43s Od per qr. GLASGOW—Annr. 23. There was but a very moderate trade to-day in wheat, and a rather thin attendance, at the full prices of last market day. Flour unaltered. Barley held rather over the last week's extreme rates, but few 'transactions re ported. Oats m e t a stow sale at 6d per boll advance. Oatmeal, 6d per load over previous rates. Beans realised full prices. Indian corn at a decline of 6d per 2801 b. EDINBURGH GRAIN.—Aram 28. A fair supply of grain to-day. Wheat and oats better. Barley at last week's rates. Beans the turn lower. Sales were dull. Wheat, on the top, 3s Od up, and on the average 03 9d up. Barley, is Od down on the top, and la down on the average. Oats on the top were Os 6d up, and on the average 03 41 up. Beans on the top 2, 01 down, and on the average le 10d down. AVERAGES PER IMPERIAL QUARTER. Wheat £2 2 5 1-12th. Do. new -12ths. Barley ll4 3 s.l2ths. Oats 1 8 5 11-12ths. Beans -12ths. Total Supply and Sales. Wheat 1400 qrs sold 864 qrs Barley 795 qrs sold 698 qrs Oats 1306 qrs sold 1135 qrs Beans 263 qrs sold 122 qrs DERBY SMITHFIELD.—AssiL 27. There was a large supply of fat beasts to-day, the moat part being from the north ; sales fiat, and some few left unsold. A large number of sheep, at previous prices. A fair supply of fat pigs, and a good show of fat an store calves. The following were the quotations :—Beef, 54c to 6jd; mutton, 6d to 61d ; lamb, —d to O 1; veal, bi t tc 6} t pet lb. ; pork, 51d to s!jd per lb ; rough fat, 53 0 to Os per 141 b. ; hides, 20 to 3id per lb ; calf-skins, 9d , n 6 1 per lb. LOOAL SHARI? MARKETA LIVERPOOL-APRIL 29. STOCK EXCEIANOE—The market has been good to-day. but closed rather weak. Manchester, Sheffield, and Lin coln, 39—London and North Western, 95 sg Lancashire and Yorkshire, 91 911—Midlands, 95 951—Eastern Counties, 12 s—Caledoni a n s , 43 42/ —S ou th E as t ern, 21 21- I—Blackburn, 9 5-16. • BIRMINGHAM, APRIL 29. STOCK EXCHANGE. —This market was active to-day, as prices advanced. London and North Westerns were done at 95 4- - South Staffords, 104—Midlands closed at 95 4 — Shropshire Unions, 454. • MANCHESTER. APRIL 29. STOCK EXCIIANGIL—The market opened with a firmer business, but prices wera not fully maintained, and closed rather weaker. Grand Trunk of Canada, 12 9-16—East Lancashire,. 86/ —Sheffield s, 3 4 — Midlands, 95i—Leeds, 91—Eastern Counties, 11 7-11 5.—Londens, 95—Dover', 94 - ledonians, 8(3. MR. RANEY IN Di:MlN.—The Freeman's Journal describes the extraordinary effects of Mr. Etarey's horse taming system a 4 exhibited by him to the Lord Lieu tenant, the Marquis of Waterford, and a numerous party of ladies and gentlemen of rank, subscribers and pupils of his, in the Castle Riding-scbool, on Tuesday. He seems to have excited as much curiosity and in terest in Ireland as here, BIRTHS. BOND —On the 29th inst., at Ipswich, Mrs. Henry Coops , ' Bond, of a son. ELIBANK—On the 28th inst., at Paris, the :itlight Hon. Lady Blilsank, of a daughter. JONES—On the 28th inst., at Poet's-corner, Westminster, the wife of John Hodgson Jones, C.E., of a son. ROBERTS— On the 28th inst., at 43, Bing's-road, Brigh ton, the wife of E. W. Roberts, Esq., of a 'laughter. MAARIAGES. BARKER—GARDNER —Oa the 27th inst., at St. Mary% Stoke Newington, John Barker, Esq., of Manor-road, Stamford -hill. and Mi nc i ng -l ane, to ary Jane, eldest daughter of Frank Gardner, Esq., late of Reigate, Sussex. CARNEGIE — GIBBONS-- -On the 27th inst., at Brompton, Henry Carnegie, Esq., FLE.I.C.S., second eon of the late Uaptain David Carnegie, H.M.S., to Elizabet ti Ann Louise, eld es t d aug ht er o f th e l a t e William Gibbons, Esq., M.D., of Richmond, Surrey. , SYKES —THORNTON—On the 29th inst., at St. Malry% Battersea, by the Right Rev. Bishop Carr, Major (jam Sykes, late 48th Regiment, to Emily, second daughter of Henry Sykes Thornton, Esq., of Battersea-rise. DEATHS. ADAms- On the 28th inst., after - a few days' illness, Alfred Adams, of 25, Abingdon-street, Westminster, solicitor, aged 36. " BRIDGE—On - the 26th inst., at Dorchester, Wm. Bridget Esq., aged 63. DOD&ON —On the 27th inst., at Seamore-place, the Right Hon. Sir John Dodson, egeit 7r... FENWICK—On the 28i,h inst , after a few days' illness , at Lower Norwood, the Rev. Gustavus Richard Far wick, the fifth son of the Rev. C. F. Fenwick, rector of Brook, LW., aged 33. PATTERSON— On the 28th inst., at 21, Delamere-cresoeot; William Paterson, Bsq., lato of 68, Old Broad-street , city, aged 72. ROOKE—On the 27th inst., at Weybridge, Henry Rooks, Esq., aged 72. -- ....... 0 ...- ..........—. -.... COIMON : Printed anti 1- nonehed by Al Uktlit) Yu • l'i !' of No. 112, Strand. 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