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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS. -(YESTERDAY.) The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack at five o'clock. Lord ST. LEONARDS said, seeing the noble lord the Postmaster-general in his place, be begged to ask him a question relative todirections given to postmasters with respect to the delivery of letters. It appeared that a person bad endeavoured to obtain a situation by means of a false character, in order to do which he had applied at the poet-office) at Aylesford for a letter directed to a person residing in the neighbourhood, which had been given him without proper inquiry being made whether he was authorised to receive it or not. Lord COLCHESTER explained that the post office mentioned by the noble and learned lord was of itself a small village, although letters for a large district were received there, consequently persons applying for their letters at the window received them. But had it been a large town such a proceeding would not be sanctioned, the directions given to the post-masters being that no persons but letter-carriers should receive letters for delivery. RAILWAY LEGISLATION. Lord REDESDALE presented a petition signed by 600 holders of shares in railways, representing 3,000,0001., who complained that although a sum of saoney amounting to 300,000,0001. had been invested i• railway undertakings in Great Britain, the Government had never laid down a national system of constructing railways, and the consequence had been that the deci- Lions of the railway committees had been conflicting and uncertain, and consequently a large and useless expendi ture of money, and an e•ncouragement of acts of aggres sion on the part of one railway towards another. The petition prayed their lordships to make some general declaration of principle, by the application of which uniformity of decision would hereafter be obtained. PRIVATE BUSINESS. On the motion of Lord rribisbAllE the following bills were read a second time :—The Chester and Holy head Railway ; Cleveland Railway ; Oxford, Worcester, and Wolverhampton Railway ; and St. Leonards, Shore ditch, Pariah Bills. The following bills were read a third time and passed :—Staine's Charities Estates ; Ulverstone and Lancaster Railway ; Corris, MacLynlletth, and River Dovey Transroad ; Blackburn Railway ; Formertine and Buchan Railway; North British. Railway (Conso lidation, ; and East Kent Railway (Western Hato:talon.) FOREIGN LOANS. T-I ARRINGTON presented a petition, praying th.v. 2,;z l J-Tinnt who hwl negotiated foreign loans should not vote till they had beau re-cice,ed. THE JEW BILL. The Earl of HARRINGTON gave notice, that on the third reading of the bill he should wove the insertion of a clause which would prohibit Jews voting on questions affecting the Christian religion. THE BERKELEY BARONY. The petition from the Right Hon. Sir M. F. F. Berkeley, K.C.8., for leave to lodge his present printed case was then considered, and the standing order, re quiring•tbat all printed cases in claims for peerages should be lodged six weeks after the petition shall have been presented, was, after a short discussion, suspended, in order that the case might be lodged. THE MEDALS FOR THE INDIAN ARMY. The Duke of NEWCASTLE said he wished to ask a question of the noble earl at the head of the Goverment in reference to the honours to be conferred on the gal lant army now serving in India. He would not have ventured to interfere in a matter so entirely in the dis cretion of the Crown, but it bad already been announced in the other house that a meltl was to be conferred, and his question only referred to the lapse of time. It bad been staled that it was intended to confer a medal for the campaign in India, with clasps for Delhi and Luck now. It was understood the design Lad been approved of, and he wished to know when it was likely the medals and clasps would be ready for distribution—many of those entitled to them were losing their lives every day. He also wished to know whether a clasp would be given for the relief of Lucknow. The Earl of DERBY - a•lmitted that the value of the decoration was increased by its being- promptly con ferred. • Instructions bad been forwarded to Sir Colin Campbell to send home a nominal list of those entitled to the decoration, and he believed that by the time the list was received the medals and clasps would be ready for distribution. The medal would be for the campaign, and there would be clasps for the siege of Delhi, and for the defence and the two reliefs of Lucknow. Lord CAMPBELL said that it would perhaps be satin factory to the Government to have an opportunity of ex plaining why nothing had been done as yet to carry out what.he believed to be the expression of the national will, by conferring some signal mark of the royal favour on the distinguished commander of the Indian army. The Earl of DERBY said the noble lord seemed to be unaware that it had been announced that a peerage had been conferred on Sir Colin Campbell, and the reason why it bad not been notified in the gazelle was that it was necessary to communicate with Sir Cohn Campbell for the purpose of ascertaining by what title be wished to be called. It was the more necessary to do this as there was one Lord Campbell already in the house. (Laughter.) Lord CAMPBELL said that tho commander of the forces in India might be called Lord Campbell of Luck now or Bengal. Lord MILVILLE made some observations which were inaudible in the gallery, the purport of which, how ever may be gathered from the reply of The Earl of DERBY, who said that whilst he con curred in what had been said of the services of Sir John Inglis, and the gallantry displayed by him in the ever memorable siege of Lucknow, he would se t ggest that nothing could be more prejudicial than the discussion of the comparative merits of genf , rals, or the comparative amount of honour which the Crown thought proper to confer on them, and he hoped that neither that nor the other House of Parliament would encourage any such discussions. (Hear.) SALE OF POISONS, itc., BILL. The report of this bill, with amendments, was received, the Earl of DEMI/ . intimating that be would take into consideration the amendments of Lord Talbot 'de Malahide, with respect to the selection of examiners. TENANT RIGHT, The Marquis of CLANRICARDE wished to ask %whe ther her Majesty's Government had announced or formed an intention to introduce into Parliament a bill to render compulsory by law the custom which prevails in parts of Ireland commonly called tenant right. He put this question to the noble earl in consequence of a statement which he had seen in an Irish newspaper to the effect that the Chancellor of the Exchequer stated in reply to a de putation which waited upon him on this snbject, that it was the intention of her Majesty's Government to in troduce a bill in the next session of Parliament. He did ' not want to put any construction on the words used by a member of the Government, but after what had al ready taken place, and after the language used by the noble earl the Secretary . for Foreign affairs in 1853, he was not afraid that any measure embodying the prin ciple of what was called tenant right, or the principle of conveying one man's property to another, would be introduced by her Majesty's Government. He was not opposed to any measure for remedying practical grievances. The agricultural population of Ireland was now in a more sound, prosperous, and contented state than any of their lordships had ever known them to be, and it was to be regretted if any language was beld which would have the effect of disturbing men's minds and encouraging hopes which were not likely to be realised. The Earl of DERBY said, in answer to the question of the noble marquis, which was founded on the report of an Irish newspaper of what took place at a deputation, that the noble marquis would have done better if he re ferred—not to a report of veltat had been said and done at that deputation, and of which he (the Earl of Derby) knew nothing—but to what had been said and done in the House of Commons, with regard to which there could be no mistake. This bill which bad been introduced by the hon. member for Dangarvan for carrying out, tenant right had been rejected by a large majority, and the nolda marquis must be a xare on what principle it had been rej?ctecl. The reputation stated that they would be satisfied with a mode rate measure. The Chancellor of the Exchequer never pl+edged himself or the Government "to introduce into Partiainert a bill to render compul A , sory by law the custom which prevails in parts of Ire land, commonly called tenant-right." All he did say and all he pledged the GGveroment to was this, that the Go vernment, during the recer.a, would take into considera tion the existing state of the law ; and if they found it practicable, would introduce some measure for the pur • pose of correcting the acknowledged anomalies and in conveniences which at present existed, and which the noble marquis himself acknowledged to exist. Ile be lieved that the feeling which existed in 1852 had much diminished on both aides. This being the case, he was not without hope that it was perfectly possible to intro troduce a measure which would have the effect of re moving the defects and blemishes in the present state of the law in Ireland—a result which might be the more easily attained if the noble marquis gave t!se Govern ment the benefit of his advice and recommendations. LEASES AND SALES OF SETTLED ESTATES ACT AMENDMENT BILL nig bill wag referred to a select cottnittee. INDEPENDENCE OF PARLIAMENT BILL. Lord BROUGLIA.AI said the r;t:jeetcf7lilsbill;;;;to apply the act of 52 George 111., reapscting bankrupt members, to all members whether traders or Lou traders. It was the duty of that house to apply itself to legislative measures which affected the other house more than themselves. This had been done in one remarkable instance ; the two most important provisions of the Bribery at Elections Act had been introduced in that house, not in the Lions° of Commons. An objection was made that the bill solely related to the other house, and that their lordships ought n,,t to interfere; but the an swer was that parity of election was as dear to their lordships as to the other house. ;Hear.) The measure he now proposed was rendered snore necessary in con sequence of a bill having been read a second time in the other house, supported by a large majority, which abro gated all privilege of Parliao,elit as regarded arrest from debt. The effect of that would In that any member of either house, against whom a jffl/I,ment had been ob i. (4 most easy matter now-a.days), might be ar rested his wa rt , the He considered that the provisions of his bill would be 'Au ~ n e re ferred to; but would not press the second reading at this period of the session. The order was postponed. JOINT-STOCK COMPANIES ACTS AMEND MENT BILL. The Earl of DONOUGIIIIORE moved the second reading of this bill. The bill Was read a second time. THE SUN, LONDON TUESDAY EVENING, ancient immemorial law of England that peers had no right whatever to interfere ,vith elections, and they never bad voted at them. (Oh !) Noble lords had several times tendered their names, but they had never been accepted by the revising barristers, The resolution of the House of Commons was, therefore, only a declaration of the law. With regard to the propoi ml, therefore, to proceed on the resolution of the Hon se of Commons, it had always met with his most vio 7 ,ent opposition ; and about this time last year he had left :his circuit to come to town and protest against it. if Emelt a course had been followed, he should have had no hesitation in directing juries from his judgment-seat to disrega rd the Commons' resolution, But if the bill were passed the same authority would be given to the resolution as i t it were a portion of the eta. tuteitself. (Hear.) He should recommend their lordships to content themselves with the present measure, to let the other bill drop, and nex t year to repeal the oath of abjuration. That oath wa a never thought of till the time of William 111., and it I was only intended for the security of the new dynasty. At the present time, how ever, there was no one that lid not regard with loyalty and veneration the dynasty upon the throne, and he saw no reason why they should c oettinue the oath. (Hear.) Lord LYNDHURST said tt gat so far as he understood the amendments promised b y his noble friend, the bill would be in substance preci rely the same as that which he had himself introduced. With regard to the present bill, certain alterations in it would be absolutely neces sary. He could not conceive that the noble and gallant earl vas the author of the rams are. It must have pro ceeded from some other source. His noble and gallant friend would have gone right •to the maik, instead of adopting the circui,•us and in volved language of this bill. He presumed his noble fri end had consulted some professional a'teser—some gentl amen who had been in the habit of being paid by the r iumber of words he em ployed. (A. laugh.) This learned gentleman had abso lutely drawn.the billiwithout taki tg the trouble of looking at the oath of abjuration. The clause proposed to omit the words, " and I make this declaration on the true faith of a Christian," words which did not exist in the oath of abjuration, but which this learned person had copied from the bill that had core up to them from the House of Commons. (Hear.) He (Lord Lyndhurst) had drawn his pen through all the words in the clause that were superfluous, and the result was as follows :-- " Either House of Parliament may resolve that any per son who professes the Jewish religion, in taking such oath may omit the words on the true faith of a Chris- tian,'..and that the taking and subscribing such oath shall have the same effect as the taking and subscribing the oath of abjuration in the form now required by law.' (Hear.) In reducing the clause to this form he had struck out four lines of rubbish at the beginning ; then two lines more; then four lines more; then two lines more ; and then two lines more—all of which answered no end whatever, except to extend the clause. (Hear.) After a few words from the Earl of LrcAN, who was understood to agree to the bill now going through ; , ze ' e qr , !cr tint the amendments pro posed by the noble and learned lord mi g ht he printed, The bill passed through committee, and was ordered to be recommitted on Thursday. In answer to a question from a NOBLE LORD, Lord LYNDHURST said he had postponed his' own bill sine die. The County Courts District Bill passed through com• mittee. The Chinese Passengers Act (1855) Amendment Bill also passed through committee. The report of amendments to the Hainault Forest (Allotment .of Commons) Bill was brought up and agreed to. The rcport of amendments to the Durham County Palatine Jurisdiction Bill was likewise brought up and agreed to. Tee County Management Bill was read a third time and passed. Ttisir lordships then adjonpned. HOUSE OF COMMONS—YESTERDAY. The SrEAKEtt took the chair at four o'clock. NEW ME ÜBE R. Mr. Coxs took the oaths and his seat for East Nor folk. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The following bills were read a third time and passed : —Clyde Navigation, Limerick and Castle Connell Rail way, Manchester South Junction and Altrincham Rail• way (No. 2), Tees Conservancy, and Warrington and Stockport Railway. QUEEN'S COLLEGES (IRELAND). Mr. FAGAN asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland whether the report of the commissioners appointed to inquire into the state and condition of the Queen's Colleges would be laid on the table of the house during the present session ? Lord NAAS said it would ; but he feared, from what he had heard, it would not be till almost its close. INDIA RILL—SELECT COMMITTEE. Lord JOHN RUSSELL gave notice that on the bringing up of the report on the India Bill he should move the omission of clauses 27 and 2S, relating to the secret committee. (Hear, hear.) TRAFFIC THROUGH ST. JAMES'S PARK. Major SIBTHORP asked the First Commissioner of Works whether (in the event of there being no vald ob jection) he would take early steps for promoting the convenience of the public, by permitting private car riages and public cabs, under the same restrictions as are now in farce between the Marlborough and Buckingham Palace Gates, to go through St. James's-park, and out at the south-eastern gate, near Storey's-gate, into the Birdcage-walk f Lord J. MANNERS said he bad no power in the matter. After the decided opinion expressed by the committee who sat two years since on the subject, he thought it would be inexpedient for him to recommend further facilities for traffic through the Park. • SUPPLY OF GUANO. Mr. SCOTT asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether any recent communication had been received by her Majesty's Government on the subject of guano on the Kooria IVlooria Islands : and whether there was any objection to lay on the table of the house the papers relating thereto, in continuation of those pre sented in August last. Sir E. B. LYTTON said recent communications had been received in reference to this subject, which he would lay on the table of the house. THE WELLINGTON MONUMENT. Mr. S. WORTLEY gave notice that on the first sup ply night he should call attention to the proposed arrange ments for the erection of a monument to the memory of the late Duke of Wellington. GOVERNMENT OF INDIA. (No. 3) BILL. On clause 33, a postponed clause, Mr. MONSELL called attention to the omission of the continuance of Addisoombe College as a place for training cadets. Lord STANLEY said the words had been purposely omitted from the bill, because it was thought better to lay down the principle of the bill, and leave the details to he decided on hereafter more at leisure. He ex pressed the opinion of the Government that it Was de sirable those who went out as cadets should have served some time in a military college, and he believed Addis. combe had admirably answered the purposes for whi c h it was established. After some remarks from an HON. MEMBER, The clause, after some amendment, was agreed to. Ciause 35, a new clause, provides that one-tenth of the whole number of persons to be recommended in one year shall be given to the sons of persons who have served in India. After some remarks from Mr. BLACKBURN and Mr. Mat as, Col. SYKES said the principle involved in the clause had been often attempted by the East India Directors, but the difficulty was of ascertaining who had the best c:aims, and it had in consequence broken down, and been Aandoned by them. There was no necessity for the clause. The patronage might be left to the council unbiassed and untrammelled in any manner how they should dispense it. Mr. V. SMITH said this clause would establish here ditary offices, if carried out universally. It would be a good principle to carry out in cases where men had dis tinguished themselves, and he suggested an alteration in the clause to that effect. Sir E. Colabrooke, Sir F. Smith, Sir H. RawHawn, and Col. Sykes having addressed the committee on the clause, Lord STANLEY defended its retention in the bill. He apprehended there would be no difficulty in carrying the clause into effect other than that the number of deserving claimants might be greater than the vancancies to be filled up. That was the case in almost every case where patronage had to be dispensed. The way to get over the difficulty he had referred to was by adopting a limited competi tion in such cases. Since he had been c.innec:ed with Indian affairs he had seen sufficient to be convinced there were a class of Indian officers who would look upon this clause as the most valuable reward they could look forward to for their children. Sir E. COLEBROOKE suggested the words after served in India " with distinction" should be added. The CHANCELLOR of the ErCHEQUER said it was objectionable to limit it in the manner proposed ; it would be better to leave it to the discretion of the com mittee. The e!ause was then added to the bill. On clause 35, a new clause, providing that all persons to be recommended for military cadetships shall be no minated by the Secretary of State and members of the Council, so that out of 11 nominations the Secretary of State shall have two, and each m em b er s h a l l have one, but no person sonorai nated shall b e recommen d e d un less the nomination be approved of by the Secretary of State in Council, Sir E. PERRY opposed the clause. Lord STANLEYidefended the claim. Sir U. ItAwraNsos and Mr. LOWE opposed the clause. After some remarks from Cal. SYKES, the committee divided. Tne numbers were — For the clause ............................. 165 Against it .... 91 Majority The dance was added to the bill The Ninaining (-.eparate) clauses were then agraed ts. Mr. ELLIOT proposed to bring up a clause. He feared chat as the bill was now framed it would be im possible to k eep up the proper re l at i ve proportion i n the council, and therefore he proposad that a clause be in serted, remedying the difficulty. Lord STANLEY opposed the ciauqe. There was just as great a chance of the elected members obtaining the majority as the crown nominees. He did not wish to see any distinction kept up between the two classes o f Dm: ubei a .li. ca.•mert, of their election. Mr. V. SMITH said that the intention bf was that there should be eight nominated and seven elected members, and to preserve that proportion was the object of his hon. friend's clause. At present there were nominated and elected members in the Court of 74 Directors, and he had never heard of there being any invidious distinction kept up between them. Mr. ELLIOT said that the first elected member that died would cause the numbers to become nine and six, which would be contrary to the intentions of Parlia ment, Sir F. SMITH said that the second election would neutralise the inequality pointed out by the honourable member. Lord J. RUSSELL supported the clause, and recom mended the noble lord to consent to its adoption. The clause was put, and negatived without a division. Mr. CAMPBELL moved the insertion of the follow ing clause :—" That with a view to enabling the Secre tary of State for War and the Commander-in-Chief of the army for the time being to have proper cognisance of the constitution and organisation of our army in India, they are hereby appointed ex-officio members of the council for India." Lord STANLEY opposed the clause as premature. The whole subject would be referred to a commission of inquiry during the recess, and the result ,of their labours would be placed before the house at the commencement of the next session. Mr. V. SMITH asked whether there would be any objection to laying a copy of the commission on the table. Lord STANLEY would take some opportunity of explaining the nature of the commission. The clangs was withdrawn. Mr. FAGAN begged to call the attention of the com• mittee to the claims of Colonel Frith, of the Bengal army, to compensation for pecuniary losses sustained by him in connection with a regulation relating to the native army of Oude. He had a clause on the paper which would explain to the committee what the nature of Col. Frith's claim was. By a treaty passed in 1781 the East India Company agreed to withdraw their troops, and to allow the native prince to sub ititute his own troops, pro vided they were commanded by a British officer. Colonel Frith received the appointment, acd there was a consider able sum of money due to him in relation to it. He was in duced to raise a sum of money in order to liquidate arrears of pay that were due to the troops, and the object of the clause which be (Mr. Fagan) begged to submit to the con sideration of the committee was, to obtain for him that compensation to which he was justly entitled. The sum due to Col. Frith for the money he bad raised was about 30,000/ , and that suns was admitted to be due to him. He had shown that the debt was fairly and honestly due, and he contended that the time had come for the just consideration of the claim. The case should be disposed of one way or the other, and the best mode of doing so was by the introduction of the clause he now proposed. Lord STANLEY declined going into the details of the case brought forward by the bon. member, inasmuch as it would be impossible to do justice to it in a discus sion on the bill. He admitted that there might be some valid claims against the former Government of Oude, and that the transference of that government to the East India Company did carry with it a certain degree of re sponsibility ; but he submitted that the settlement of LlaVat3 end Use tritionnle by which such settlement should take place, could nut propeily ni a sure of this kind—to provide for the future government of India. Nor did he believe that the proposal of the hon. member was the best for carrying out the object he had in view. This class of claims, he believed, would be best inquired into by a commission upon the spot, and he understood that there was au idea to appoint such a commission. In that case it would be obviously incon venient to have another tribunal here to take up any in• dividnal case, or any number of cases. (Hear.) Mr. BRIGHT remarked that though it had often been admitted that some tribunal should be established to deal with these cases, no attempt had been made to create such a tribunal—and the noble lord, though he admitted the want, gave no distinct pledge that it would be supplied. He (Ur. Bright) did not think a com mission would be the most- suitable tribunal, which he though ought rather to be formed of a certain number of judges of the land acting under the responsibility of their high office. But as it appeared to him, the government of India had always been afraid of any such tribunal being constituted, because they knew that there were many oases in which injustice had been done, and that they might have to refund large sums of money, which was just what they were most anxious to avoid. Mr. GLADSTONE, so far from blaming the East India Company for resisting the claim referred to by the hon. member, considered that they were entitled to great credit for having, regardless of personal consequences, resisted that and other similar claims in the interest of the people of India. After a few words from Mr. V. SMITH and Colonel STKES, Mr:FAGAN consented to withdraw the clause, and withdrawn it was accordingly. Mr. GLADSTONE and Mr. D. SEYMOUR postponed the clauses of which they had given notice until the bring ing up of the report. The preamble was then agreed to, and the house re sumed. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in reply to Lord J. Russell, stated that the report would be taken tomorrow (this) afternoon, and that the bill would be reprinted in the evening. UNIVERSITIES (SCOTLAND) BILL. On the question that this bill, as amended, be con sidered, Col. SYKES moved that the magistrates and council of the city of Aberdeen be heard by themselves or by counsel against the bill. The LORD ADVOCATE said, when he (the Lord Advocate) had the honour of being made Lord Rector of the University of Aberdeen, he was esker), as any person occupying that position would have been asked, what were his opinions with regard to the union. To that question he replied by saying that he had only turned his attention to it in a very general way; but, from what he understood of it, he was inclined to the opinion that the universities should be united, and the colleg , s separated. He had occasion to study the mat ter subsequently, however, with the view of being ex amined before a committee, and he then came to an opposite conclusion, though that which he had mentioned to the house was really that which he formed at the time to his appointment as rector, with the best information which he then po sessed. He would, then, leave it to the house to say whether he had not acted more honestly in acting upon the opinion which, upon mature reflec tion, he had been led to form, than in continuing to pro fess that which he no longer thought. (Hear,. hear.) The motion was negatived without a division. Mr. GLADSTONE moved to insert before clause 15 the following words :—" If her Majesty shall be pleased, at any time within the duration of the commission, to grant a charter for the founation of a National Uni versity for Scotland, the Scottish Universities named in this act or any of them, may, if they shall think fit, sur render to the Commissioners the power of examining for and of granting degrees, with or without the excep tion of degrees in theology, and to become colleges, one or more, as the case may be, of the said National University." The motion was agreed 'to. Mr. DUNLOP moved a clause for relieving the prin. ' cipals and ce rt a in professors from their exemption from the operation of the act of 1153. The LORD ADVOCATE objected to the clause as it now stood, but would not have done so had the hon. gentleman proposed that the question, as regarded Aberdeen, should be left to the commissioners. (Hear.) He did not think his hon. and learned friend the mem ber for Greenock would come forward to disturb the arrangement that had been made under the act, unless he had strong reasons for doing so. After a few words from Mr. DUNLOP and Lord DUNIAN, Lord ELCHO said a compromise was made on the former occasion when the subject of tests was before the house, which, he thought, should not now be dis turbed ; and he woud therefore support the views of the learned lord. Mr. BLACKBURN entertained a similar opinion. After a few words from the LORD ADVOCAT/C in ex planation, the house divided, when the numbers were— For the clause ... Against it 5B Majority for the clause —24 The clause was then agreed to, and was ordered to be added to the bill. Mr. DUNLOP then moved the insertion of another clause to the effect that no distinction should hencefor ward be recognised among the professors of Glasgow University. Mr. BLACKBURN hoped the house would not agree to this c'auso. Mr. BUCItANAN said the change recommended by his hon, and learned friend (Mr. Dunlop) was one quite in accordance with the feelings of the citizens of Glas iocv, who were deeply interested Fir the prosperity of the University. The LORD ADVOCATE supported the clause be cause it went on the principle of putting, in future, all the professors of colleges on the same footing, and t'ar,t would have a great effect of removing heartburnings and Jealousies. - The clatte was then agreed to, and added to the bill. On the clause being proposed, appointing the number of the commission, Mr. CAIRD moved that the name of Mr. Dunlop, the member for Greenock, be added to the list. After Rome discussion the name was inserted. Col. SYKES, in page 9, clause 16, moved to insert "that a faculty of arts being such as shall afford a course of education sufficient to qualify students to be examined for degrees in arts, shall ho maintained in each of the said King's College and Marisehal College." After a fee , observations from Lord HADDO, Toe LORD ADVOCATE said that the difference between the clauses as they stood and this amendment was very small indeed. Toe Clauses pro v id e d t h at t h e commissioners s h ou ld determine the number of pro ' fessorr, with a discretion as to what was necessary in other cases, of which this was one. He thought it was better to leave thir to the discretion of the comruissioners. He must, therefore, oppose the motion. The house then divided— Fur the amendment .. 47 Against it 142 Majority Mr. BAXTER moved the following proviso to the clause :—" Provided also, that it shall not be lawful for the Commies'' nere to apply any portion of such moneys for the salaries of principals or professors required to subscribe a religious test, and not included iu the pro visions of the 16th and 17th Victoria, chap. 89." Mr. ELLICE, jun., defied the ingenuity of any man to say there was anything ,unfair in the bill new before the house. It was, iu his opinion, a bill entirely free front all sectarian character, and was free, also, from anything whatever of prejudice. (Hear, hear.) He should, therefore, meet the proviso of his hon. friend ~i th his most decided opposition. He certainly saw a gr.win g t t T isolnaical choirs in this house, as in the case of Ireland, and LittviLg them, to be consistent, he felt that he could not support 1 any distinct vote for them in this case ; but he, never. " - MARRIAGES (MOSCOW, TAHITI, AND NINGPO). This bill was read JEWS a secon BILL. On the motion for going into committee inn this bill, The Earl of CLANCARTY said it appeared ti`rat Lord Derby attached great importance to effecting a reconcilia tion with the other house. He (Lord Clancarty) did not think that any light matter ought to starlet in the way of such an arrangement ; but they should not lose sight of the fact that there were three estates. of the realm, and they ought not to presume on the acquiescence of the sovereign in a measure of this kind. The noble earl referred to some cases-in which George had with held his assent from measures passed by both house?. The Roman Catholic Emancipation Bill had only been introduced by the Government on a recommendation contained in the speech from the throne. Where a boon was to be conferred on a class . of ,ber subjects, it was respectfully due to the sovereign that she ought to have had an opportunity of recommending the measure in a message to Parliament, if she really approved of it. The Queen, byher position, was head of the Church and de fender of the faith ; and he could not suppose that she would wish to associate in her councils Jews and unbe lievers. He wished to know, if her Majesty's approval lied not been give-, what coarse she would be advised to adopt ? If this bill passed, what would be the position of the Roman Catholic body, bound as they still were by an oath not to use any influence they possessed to weaken the Protestant religion as by law established. This could not be a final settlement of the question ' if it led to an agitation by Roman Ca t holic s— which had al• ready begun—against the oath they were now obliged to take. Was the noble earl prepared to stand by the Act of 1829, and resist any alteration of the oath ? The Duke of MARLBOROUGH said that under this bill there was nothing to prevent a Jew from occupying the position of Prime Minister ; but a Roman Catholic could not do so. At any rate, words ought to be intro duced similar to those in the Roman Catholic oath, bind ing Jews not to use their influence against the Church as by law established. He deprecated the measure being passed in such baste. Lord REDESDALE said it was unconstitutional and extremely objectionable to allow the houses to act by resolutions as this bill proposed. They would have cause to regret deeply, either now or at some future time, if they allowed so unconstitutional a measure to pass. He implored their lordships not to be induced, by temporary convenience, to establish so dangerous a precedent. It had been recently held in the other house that a Jew member might act on committees without taking the oaths. Thus one concession followed another, and it was impossible to say what they might come to. He was anxious to see a distinction made in the bill in favour of their lordships' house. (Hear.) It was desirable that the provision as it was should only be made applicable to the other Leuese Tao Jew had a nationality distinct from that of the country where he was bur,: z,nd Herd ; and this was such as to incapacitate him for legislative functions, This matter was one which he felt deeply; he was not opposod to what was done, but the manner of doing it. After a few words from Viscount MELVILLE, Lord BROUGHAM said it was quite common for re solutions, not of a house of parliament, but of a court of justice, to have the force of law. Scarcely an alteration was made in the legal procedure but power was given to the judges to issue orders for carrying it out ; and these orders virtually became a portion of the statute. He (the noble lord) did not think the present was the best course that might have been adopted, but still it was a coarse to which he had no solid objection. He found that he had somewhat misstated the object of a bill on another subject, which might be expected from the other house. At present it applied only to members of the House of Commons, but he had no doubt that the first thing their lordships would do, when it came before them, would be to make it include themselves. The Earl of DERBY said that his noble and learned friend put him in a somewhat unhappy predicament. A number of noblelords had risen one after the other and put questions to him, which he had had no opportunity allowed him to answer. Now, his noble and learned friend entered into the discussion of another bill which had been disposed of, and respecting which the noble lord had delivered aepeech. He supposed his noble friend thought the subject was one upon which he must have a few more last words ; and a little divergence from the ordinary course might perhaps be allowed his noble friend. (A. laugh.) The noble earl (Lord Clancarty) had suggested two different objections to the course their lordships were about to pursue. In the first place, he stated his opinion that in seeking to reconcile the views of both houses of Parliament, their lordships were in danger of coming in collision with the Crown. In a ques tion of this kind he was sure the last thing his noble friend would be desirous of would be to bring into discus sion the personal opinions of the sovereign of the realm. But he (Lord Derby) had not the slightest reason to sup pose that her Majesty would interpose her prerogative, and he had no apprehensions of any such collision as that to which his noble friend had referred. Again, his noble friend said that if it was determined to alter the law, the proper course would be to send down a message from the Crown. But the noble lord forgot that none of the bills had been introduced on the part of the Government. So far from the Government having assented to them, they had recommended their lordships to strike out that part of the Commons' bill by which the proposed privilege was conferred upon the Jews. But then the noble earl (Lord Lucan) came forward with the bill now before their lord ships ; and by that measure each house was allowed to take its own course, a plan which he (Lord Derby) thought was the best they could pursue.. The bill was next objected to en the ground that it would place the Roman Catholics in aiposition of inferiority as compared with the Jews. But7ie (the noble earl) could not see how the bill placed Roman Catholics in a position of inferiority. A provision had been introduced into the act of 1820 for the purpose of meeting an objection which was generally entertained by Pro testants. They were apprehensive that the Roman Ca tholics, being a rival body within the Christian Church, were likely to avail themselves of their new position in Parliament for the purpose of injuring the temporalities of the Established Church. In this state of things an oath was introduced, and unhesitatingly accepted by the Etonian Catholic body, by which they bound themselves not to make use of any of the privileges that might be conferred upon them fur the purpose of injuring the church establishment, an object which they emphatically disclaimed. He (the noble earl) did not believe thnt there prevailed to any great extent any dissatisfaction with re gard to that oath, neither did he see how the admission of the Jews could affect the question. Although they no doubt thought the Christian religion an erroneous one, he had never heard that they had any designs against the temporalities of the Church of England. There was, therefore, no reason why securities should be taken of them, as had been done of the Roman Catholics. (Hear.) The noble duke (the duke of Marlborough) complained that the bill did not impose the same limitations with re gard to presentations to benefices which were imposed , upon the Roman Catholics. Now, so ,far as referred to presentations made by persons of the Jewish persuasion in their private capacity, the bill introduced no alteration whatever. The noble earl had consented to insert in the bill the clause which had been omitted from the former measure, placing the Jews, in respect to the situations they might hold, on exactly the same footing as the Ro man Catholics. (Hear.) It would also be necessary to introduce an amendment with regard to the oath of ab juration. His noble friend (Lord Redesdale) had taken an objection to the mode of proceeding by resolution ; but he (Lord Derby) could not see with the noble lord any danger or possibility of stretching the bill beyond the point that was intended. It must be remembered that the measure did not give the House of Commons the power of passing resolutions generally, but only the power of passing one specific resolution for one spe cific purpose. So, far, too, from the course they were following involving the creation of Jewish peers, it would really place an obstacle upon the exercise of the royal prerogative in that matter, because it was an ex pression e f their' lordships' opinion that no Jew peer ought to sit in that hou,e. Their lordships were not abandoning their judgment that it was not desirable for Jaws to sit and vote in either House of Parliament, but on the contrary their lordships maintained their pre viously expressed opinions, and had sent down to the other house reasons for doing so. All that their lord ships did was to say that out of deference to the fre quently expressed opinions of the Commons—expressed by constantly increasing majorities during the last ten years, although he would admit that the question had never been put to the constituencies—(hear, hear) — their lordships said that, out ofrespetctey feltit i tothat fretqg%t to frequently expressed opinion of the Commons, they authorise a suspension of the law. (Rear, hear.) There was no doubt as to there being precedents for this course. There wa., for instance, ne law which forletee peers from voting for members of Parliament. On the contrarY, the law said that any person who possessed a certain qualification should have a right to vote; and what, then, prevented their lordships from exercising that right ? Merely a resolution of the other house. Lord CAMPBELL—You have no right to vote by the common law of England. Lord DERBY—I hear that statement of the noble and learned lord with groat surprise. (Loud cries of Hear, hoar.) I was always of opinion that there Was no law which prevented our voting, but that our power was taken away by a resolution of the House of Commons. Lord CAMPBELL—That resolution only declared the law. Lord LYNDHURST and other noble lords—No no. Lord DERBY should have f e lt b ound to submit to the authority of the noble and learned lord if it had not been for the emphatic denial of his noble and learned friend near him. (sear, hear.) However, there vas this advantage of proceeding in the man ner now suggested. If tiey passed an act of Parliament they wo u ld g i ve t h e Jew an absolute right to sit in Parliament. But if they merely authorised a resolution of the other house, that resolution would remain in forca only so long as it wa, not rescinded, or until the end of the particular Parlia ment by which it ‘‘ , lll passed. If there should he i n t h e country a strong feeling against the aimission of Jews, that feeling would no doubt be expres , ed at the nelc. election, and the resolution would not he renewed ; wheiel a, if they passed an act of Parliament admitting the Jews, it could only be rescinded by another act of Parliament. (Hear, hear.) For these reasons, be thought they would be acting more consistently with the view they had previously expressed if they supported the bill of his noble and gallant friend ; ar,d ho trusted that by sending the two bills down together as one inseparable act they would at length set this long vexed question at rest. (Cheers.) .Lord CAMPBELL rejoiced at the prospect there was of Noi atug< ; ;i :s ti or. The law of the land could not be altered by r eso l u ti ons o f e i t h er hou.e. laWest minster-hall a resolution of the House of Commons, or even of theirlordabip s , wou ld b e t rea t e d as mere waste paper, and with great deference to the noble earl, and to the noble and learned lord, it was not by a resolution of the House of CJIIIOaOIIB that peers were prevented from voting for representatives of the people. It was by the JULY 6, 1858. theless, felt that the theological chairs in their universi ties ought, in order to make them efficient, to be main tained respectably ; and he therefore hoped the com missioners would, out of the existing funds at their disposal for such purposes, allocate a sufficient sum to support the theolo - r , ical chairs in the Scotch universities, in a manner to enable the principals and professors to discharge their duties with the dignity and efficiency which should appertain to them. The committee then divided, when there appeared— For the proviso lO2 Against it Majority against it —l6 The bill was then ordered to be read a third time to morrow (Tuesday), SALE AND TRANSFER OF LAND (IRELAND) ,BILL. The house went into committee on this bill, when Mr. DOBBS moved an amendment on clause 87 making the duty uniform in all cases, and fixing it at 11. per cent, on all property instead of 103. per cent. on property under 10,0001. / The amendment was withdrawn owing to some infor mality, and Mr. VANCE moved an amendment to reduce the rate to an uniform duty of 103. per cent. Mr. G. A. HAMILTON opposed the amendment, as it would prevent the court being self-supporting, as it was intended to be. Mr. J. D. FITZGERALD thought there should be a maximum duty of 11, per cent, to be graduated accord ing to the rule of Court. He thought it was proceeding upon a wrong ground to attempt to make the court self supporting. Mr. WHITESIDE contended that the plan proposed by him was just and equitable. The bulk of the pur chasers were in truth under 10,0001. At the per centage fixed, 15,0001. a year would be the result, Exclusive of 5,0001., which they expected to squeeze out of the Bank; and 20,000/. would be amply sufficient, they calculated, to defray all the expenses of the court. So long as the poor paid stamps and fees, so should the rich, After a few words from several Hon. ?Jembers, Mr. WILSON said the proposition of the Attorney- General for Ireland was contrary to recent legislation, to all commercial practice, and all sound principles of social science, and he hoped the house would not agree to it. Mr. WALPOLE said the principle on which the bill was framed was an exceedingly simple one. The object of his right hon. friend was to achieve an object of great importance to individuals, and at the same time to make the court self supporting. (Hear, hear.) The whole matter amounted to this, that if parties having a large estate to dispose of thought that one per cent. was too high a price to pay for the advantage, they would not come into the court at all. (Hear, hear.) Mr. ORMSBY GORE would vote that the court should he self-supporting. Mr. VANCE said his only object was to have a uni form rate, and not to prevent the court from being self supporting. The committee then divided, and the numbers were— For th,i amendment Ag.t.ust, Majority for the clause i3 Mr. WHITESIDE moved to add, at the end of the clause, a provision to enable the Lords of the Treasury to lower or raise the rate of duty from time to time within the limit of the maximum, according as the rate shall seem sufficient to provide a fund for the support of the court. The motion was agreed to. Colonel GREVILLE next moved to add a proviso at the end of the clause, that no such duty be payable in respect of property sold in pursuance of an order of the Commissioners of the Encumbered Estates Court, made before the .passing of this act. The Government could not consistently advocate a retrospective action in this clause, and his motion should be acceded to as a measure that was only reasonable and fair. Mr. WHITESIDE consented to the motion, which wra then agreed to ; and the clause, as amended, ordered to stand part of the bill. On clause Bs, Mr. ENNIS moved to leave out the words, "public securities," and insert " public funds ;" and to add, " or in the stock of the Bank of England, or of the Bank of Ireland respectively." Re thought it was highly im politic to exclude the public money from these invest rnents, and he felt sure the concession would work ad vantageously. Mr. J. G. HAMILTON consented to the first part of the amendment, but objected to the latter. The first amendment was then agreed to, and the last negatived. After a desultory discussion, in which several mem bers took part, the cause was agreed to, as were also clauses 89 and 90. The ATTORNEY -GENERAL for Ireland moved the insertion of a clause to follow clause 51. The effect of this clause would be to cause due publicity to any application to the court for a declaration of title, such declaration not to be signed by the judge until the ex piration of three calendar months after the publication of the rule. Agreed to. The preamble was then agreed to, and the house re sumed. CLERK OF PETTY SESSIONS (IRELAND) BILL. The house went through committee on this bill. CIVIL BILLS, &c.. (IRELAND) ACT AMEND MENT BILL. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL for Ireland moved the second reeding of this bill. Mr. COGAN obj - icted to proceeding with the bill at so late an hour (a quarter to ono o'clock). He moved that the debate be now adjourned. The motion was azreed to. THE FOUR COURTS (DUBLIN) EXTENSION of Arts, and it was the general opinion that the plan would never pay as a commercial speculation, because the deposit was not of sufficient value to pay for trans port to any distance. Chairman —As far as the experiment at Leicester has gone, you are of opinion that it has been successful? Witness—Yes. Chairman—And that it might be successfully adopted on a larger scale in London ? Witness —Yes ; I have a scheme which I think would be very successful if adopted. It is to construct two tunnels, and to collect the whole of the sewage at two receptacles, and then, having deodorised the sewage, to allow the clear to run into the river, and then pump the deposit on to some waste land. I should apply Hate to the sewage as it ran into the conduits. Mr. Tite—How many tons of this solid would have to be barged away each day ? Witness—About 400 tons. I don't propose to use barges at all. The deposit is not a solid ;itis a kind of sludge, about 1 in 50 ; and I propose to use a pump, and to convey it through pipes on to some waste laud, which I think could be found on the South-Western line. Sir B. Hall—What is the space occupied by the works at Leicester, with its 60,000 inhabitants? Witness—The works are much larger than is neces sary. Sir B. Hall—What is the space occupied by the sew age works ? - Witness—l don't recollect. The place is surrounded by fields. I should think there was more than an acre. Sir B. Hall—Then that space could not be obtained in London. Your scheme, as I understand it, is to embank the Thames, and within that embankment to construct tunnels to convey the sewage to two conduits, and there, after deodorisation, to run eff the clear and pump off the sludge to a given point. What is the level of your proposed tunnels ? Witness—The bottoms below low water mark. Sir B. Hall—Are you sure that your level would be low enough to receive the whole of the outfalls of the existing sewers? Witness—l would rather that the engineer who is in attendance should answer that question. Sir B. Hall—Where do you find this waste land you spoke of - Witness—On the South-Western line, about 20 miles from London. Mr. R. Stephenson—According to your scheme the waste land would have to be bought to which your de posit would be carried. Now, what is the use of buying land to convey that to it which is valueless Witness—lt would not be valueless. Waite sandy land could be bought very cheap, and sold, after it had been so uiauured, at a profit. The Chairman here announced that the committee had been so overwhelmed with plans that they felt it utterly impossible, owing to the shortness of the time previous to the prorogation of Parliament, to do more than merely to inquire into a limited selection. They might not be fortunata in that selection, yet he hoped the public would rest assured that the only object of the committee was to arrive at the moat satisfactory result possible. Tl:c eammitteß then adjourned. THE LATE PETEI?, THELLUSSON. Ye who listen with credulity to the whispers of vanity, and pursue with eagerness the phantom of a name, attend to the history of one richer than Rasselas,—even to the history of one Peter Thel lusson, late of the City of London, merchant. It is now sixty-two years since Peter Thellusson took stock of his worldly possessions, and found that he had 600,0001. in money, and land of the annual value of 4,5001. Peter Thellusson had satis ged the ordinary ambition of an English bourgeois —he had founded a family. Peter Isaac, the son of his youth and the prop of his house, was heir to 35,0001. a-year in money and land, and might claim to be a born gentleman. Peers and Peer esses might hereafter spring in intermediate suc cession from the loins of that denizen of a dingy little back parlour behind the Bank. The best man upon 'Change envied the rich and prosperous Peter Thellusson, who had no object of ambition unsatisfied. Peter was of a different mind ; he had not nearly money cnough. Let other men be satisfied to found one family ; Peter was lucky enough to have three sons, and he would found three families. It was not that he loved his sons, or his sous' sons ; but it was the hope and desire of this magnificently posthumous miser to associate his name in future generations with three colossal fortunes. If l ie did not love his sons, he did not hate them ; he was simply indifferent to everything except to his one cherished object. Peter Thellusson took the very best legal advice, and made a will. He left a few trifling legacies, probably to show that no unnatural antipathy to his children tainted that will with mania. But his great fortune was all conveyed to trustees. It was to accumulate until every man, woman, and child of the offspt iug of Peter, and a li ve or begotten at the moment of Peter's death, should also be de funct. No one of the children or grandchildren who had ever looked Peter in the face, or trembled in his presence, or squalled at the ,sound of his harsh, hard voice, should ever be the richer for Peter's wealth. "And the rich man also died." Twelve months after making his will, and sixty• one years from the present time, Peter was gathered to his unknown fathers. The will was opened, and created sensations which vibrated through the land in widening circles. Our law books picture to us the blank disappointment of the then living relatives, the gentle cachinations of a past gene• ration of lawyers, and the gaping wond er o f th e general public. There were three sons and six grandsons of this malignant old merchant then a live—all destined to live the life of Tantalus ; to see this great pagoda-tree growing up before them, yet never to pluck one unit of its fruit. The terms of the will enjoined, that when the last survivor of all the nine children and grandchildren should yield, up his breath, then the charm was to end ; the great mountain of accumulated wean was to be divided into three portions, and one third was to b e g i ven t o eac h of the " eldest male lineal descendants" of his three aons. Having thus done what he liked with his own, and excluded all his living progeny from all benefit, he ends with a whine to the Legislature worthy of Shylock appealing against mercy—he bad earned his money with honesty and industry, and he hoped the Legislature would not alter his will. Of course, the first thing that followed was a Chancery suit of the fattest bulk. The common-sense view of the case would have been to set aside the will, as the product of a diseased mind—a mind rendered morbid as to its disposing powers by dwelling upon an irrational object. But Lords Loughborough and Alvanley and Eldon, and judges of kindred sympathies, seem to have been led by their love of art to admire the skill with which the technicalities of our blessed real property law had been adapted to the object of this old trader. Perhaps, also, they saw something eminently sane and matter-of-fact in this good old sordid vice of accumulation, or were excited to admiration by seeing the meanest vice of man expanded into something like sublimity in its gigantesque proportions. The litigation went up to the House of Lords, and the will was con firmed. This affair naturally made a great noise. The Legislature took it up, and although they would not set aside the will by an ex post facto law, they branded Peter Thelluson's memory with the imputation of " vanity, illiberality and folly ;" and enacted by statute, 39th and 40th of George 111., cap. 98, that the power of devising property for the purpose of accumulation shall be restrained in general to 21 years after the death of the testa tor. Persons of an arithmetical and statistical turn of mind also occupied themselves with the matter, and, with the aid of life insurance tables and Cocker, they calculated that this fund, accumulat ing at compound interest, could not amount t 9 le ss than nineteen millions at the moment of distribu tion, and would very probably reach the tremen dous figure of thirty-two millions. But "nothing is so false as facts, except figures." The c a l cu l ators had forgotten to take account of that unknow n quantity which must, in practical matte rs , b e repre sented, not by the letter "x," but by the word "litigation." Contemporaneously with the Chan cery suit to set aside the will there was a cross•suit to have the trusts of the will performed under the direction of the Court of Chancery. That suit is n and, alth oug h c hi l d ren and row sixty grandchildren are old, and, the suit is as hale and lively as it was in their earliest youth. That suit was the true heir to Peer Thellusson, and it is still spending his money like a frolicksome young cor net. Necessarily, there were other suits. There were suits about post-testament acquisitions of real property, there were suits about advowsons, there were suits about other matters, so numerous that even equity lawyers, not stingy of their words, are fain to descrihe them as " various." The care ful and improving management of the Court of Chancery has also exercised its influence upon this estate. The Yorkshire estates have participated in that excellent system, which has been so uniform in its action, that when we see a house all window less and unpainted, tottering and decaying, we can predicate with a tone of undoubting conviction, " That property is in Chancery." The last survivor of the nine lives died in February, 1856, and four new bills were immedi- ately filed. The property is now to be divided, not into thirds, but into moieties. There is, however, a question raied as to who is entitled. Who wore the eldest male lineal descendants of old Peter Thel'u•son in February, 1856 ? There are two who are eldest in point of lineage, and two who are eldest in point of - personal age. This point is still sub judice. It would not be very difficult to guess how it will be decided ; but that is no matter of ours, nor would it have been a matter of the least interest to old Peter Thellusson. His object was to make the heap very large ; he evidently cared not one lock of wool as to which of his descendants might be the possessors. The public interest in this long line of litigation is confined to its general Peter Thellusson's clever scheme has BILL This bill was read a third tTme and passed. The Legitimacy Declaration Bill passed through cam mittee pro forma. The 'Wills of British Subjects Abroad Bill passed ,hronzh committee. JUD4MENTS (IRELAND) ACT AMENDMENT The ATTORNEY - GENERAL for IRELAND moved the second reading of this bill. Mr. Serjeant DEASY said time should be allowed kir its discussion. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL for IRELAND said the bill was of so much importance that no time could be lost. lie was determined to press it forward with out delay. There was no amendment given notice of, and any objections to it might be discussed in committee. The house then divided, when there appeared— For the second reading B9 Against it _ _ Majority The bill WAR then read a second time. The Police (Scotland) Act Amendment Bill, and the Lunatics (Scotland) Amendment Bill were read a second time. -55 Mr. BRADY moved that Lord Goderich be dis charged from attendance on Mr. Barber's Committee, and that Mr. Caird be appointed in his place. Mr. HARDY opposed the motion as unusual and un precedented. After some discussion, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved that the debate be adjourned. The house divided, when the numbers were — For the adjournment 5l Against it Majority The debate was then adjourned. The house adjourned at half-past one o'clock. STATE OP THE RIVER THAMES. [The followin appeared iu part of our impression of yes. terday :]— The Parliamentary inquiry into the state of the river Thames re - assembled this morning in No. 11 committee room, for the purpose of reporting on Mr. G. Gurney's plan and hearing witnesses. The members present were —Mr. Kendall (chairman), Lord J. Russell, Lord John Manners (First Commissioner of Public Works , Lord Palmerston, Alderman Cubitt, Sir J. Yarde Buller, Sir J. Shelley, Mr. Tite, Sir B. Hall, Mr. Ackroyd, Hon. Jocelyn Percy, &c. The room was crowded to excess. The first witness called was Mr. Bateman, who said—l am a civil engineer. I have been employed on the water works at Alanchester and Glasgow. lam still engaged in improving the Clyde— it is in a very offensive state. Where there is a great quantity of mud on the banks of a river it is important, where such is exposed to the action of the sua, that it should be immediately removed to prevent decomposi tion and effluvia. There are no mud banks on the river Ir well, yet it smells most offensively. There is a sewer in Glasgow which receives the discharge from certain chemical works, which renders the sewage from this par ticular place inodorous, and the sewage coming from thence, on being mix sd with other foul sewage, renders it inodorous. I don't know how this is occasioned, but such is the fact. I am, therefore, strongly of opinion, and Dr. Anderson agrees with me, that it is possible to disinfect sewage by solvents on its progress by precipi tation. By Mr. Acroyd—There are no mud banks in the Irwell in consequence of its being all deep water. The river has been artificially dredged, and the Rides walled. Some of tho sewage, of course, comes back after it has been discharged into it, but more goes out than comes back, or the estuary would b e fill e d up. I hope that it will be po7 , sible to deal with the sewers by solvent chemi cal agents in so perfzet a manner that the whole of the sewage would be deodorised in its passage through them without leaving any precipitation. The room was here ordered to bo cleared, and after a short absence the public were admitted. Mr. Lawes was examined by the Chairman. He said —I have been to Leicester and examined the sewage works there. Leicester is a large place, and has no means of getting rid of the sewage, w hich is excessively bad, except by th e p rocees adopted. Chairman—How far are the works from the town? Witnesi—About half a mile. Chairman—And no ill effects arose to the town ? Witness—None whatever. Chairman—What is the process ? Witness—The process is to collect the whole of the sewage in a large vat, and then allow :t to subside. The clear liquid is then run off into the river, and the deposit is carted away, and used as manure. Cnairman—How is this deposit got out of the vats ? Witness—.By wheelbarrows and carts. C iai , man—What is your opinion of the process as a 00111,1.1;i.; L: , ! ? Witness— ; .rhe thing has beta di4euisec.:).y turned out a foolish failure. No single Thal- " lusson will stalk over the land, overshadowing onr dukes and trudging our barons by the magnitude of his territorial possessions. No thirty-two mil lions of money are expanded into broad acres, where men may travel and say—" Behold the con quests of the great Peter Thellusson." Whether Lord Rendlesham and Charles Sabine Augustus Thellusson divide the estate as the eldest in lineage, in or whether Thomas and A r th ur t a k e as eldest years, we should equ4lly desire to be able to call up old Peter Thellusson to see the division of his anti cipated accumulations. The Court of Chancery has so clipped and pollarded his oak, that it is net much larger than when he left it. It would be fit punishment for that purse-proud, vain, cruel old man, to see that he disinherited his own children only to fatten a generation of lawyers ; that he was the dupe of his own subtlety, and that his name, instead of being associated with the foundation of a house of fabulous wealth, is only known in con nexion with an abortive scheme of vulgar vanity. —Times. Country Markets. NOR WICH-JuLy 3. Wheat was in fair supply, and there being more disposi tion on the part of millers to purchase, prices advanced is to 2s per quarter upon all descriptions. In barley, oats, beans, and peas there was little doing. Flour is per sack dearer. Wheat, wLite red... Flour.. 47s to 49s 42s to 46s 30s COLCHESTER- JULY 2. Rather more wheat on offer, for which is to as per qr. advance on last week's rates was readily obtained. Beans and peas is per qr. deafer. Prices to-daywera as follow ;—Wheat, white, 46s to 50s; red, 42s to 465; barley, 32s to 369 ; pats, 1 - 43 to 289 ; beans, Mazagan, 38s to 40s ; middle and small, 423 to 44s ; peas, white, 42s to 44s ; grey, 44s to 465. Official Statemon t of the Quantities of Corn, Stc., received in the port of Loudon, from the following ports, from June 28 to July 3, both inclusive. I 4 I A 0 99 ( - - 136-- 560? - r Colchester .....,... I Harwich Leigh Afaldon ( ----- I I: 65 \ KIRKCALDY -JULY 3. We had small supplies of wheat and oats to-day, sad only one parcel of barley. Sales quick, at an advance of is to 2s per qr over last week. Wheat. I Barley. Oats. BeanE; First 4Bs Od I 24s Od t 239 Gd Os id Second 44s Od I—s Od 263 Od Os. o' Third 34s Od —s 01 24 s 6d I o.lid COAL MARKET.— JULY 5. Prices of Coals per tou at the close of the market s d.lßates's West Hartley ..,14 6 s 4. Huddle W. Hartley l5 9 Etraddyll l5 • Bobside W. Hartley l5 9i Retton Haswell 16 6 Hastings Hartley 15 , 61 16 9 Tanfield Moor Butes 1 4 3 Wylain Lambton l6 0 Wsllsend, Sio. Russell's Hetton 14 9 Gosforth l4 0 South Hetton ~16 3 Wall send, &a. Riddell l4 0 Stewsrt's 1 n 6 Eden .14 6 Shineliffe 11 0 Ships at market, 96—Sold, 72, LOCAL SHARE MARKBTB. LIVERPOOL—JULY 5. STOCK EXCHANGE—The market improved soon after the opening, and closes at an advance of about 1 per cent., and with a much better feeling than has been shown for some time past. The news to-day respecting the Atlantic has so far produced no great effect upon the value of the shares ; they are nominally quoted 500 to 550, but, as may be expected, are not very marketable just at present. Subjoined are the closing prices :—Dovers, 198 2)--Leeds Northern, 223 8 Caledonians, 36i 7—York and North Midland, 35 4 R—Berwicks, 22 11-16—East Lancashire, —London and North-Western, 89i Sheffield, 36 i Chesterand Holyhead, 161 174—Eastern Counties, 12 1.16 —Great Western, 501 —Lancashire and Yorkshire, 90i —Great Western of Canada, 16 a _ Elackburns, 11 Midland, 91 4—North British, 114 —Birkenhe a d s 68 Grand Trunk of Canada, 10 4 j Dutch Rheni s h, 5i dis. BIRMINGHAM, JULY 6. STOCK EXCEIANOE.—Thera was a dull market here to day again, but prices aro rather higher. The business done was chiefly in local stocks. ILLEGITIMACY IN SCOTLAND.—The returns of the Registrar-General of Scotland show that the counties in his list in which the proportion of illegitimate births is greatest aro Let those which are rapidly advancing in population, or which contain our largest cities, with their overcrowded inhabitants, but are rather those which are more purely agricultural. Thus, in Scotland the countb-s of Renfrew and Lanark, with their teeml ing population, show only 6'l and 6 . 7 per cent, teepee• tively of illegitimate births ; Linlithgow 6'7 per cent. and Edinburgh B'7 per cent. ; while the proportion of illegitimate births rises to 111 per cent, in Peebles, to 11'6 per cent. in llf , xburgh, to 12 . 5 per cent, in Selkirk, to 13.1 per cent, in Kincardine, to 14 per cent. in Kirk cudbright, to 151 per cent. in Dumfries, to 161 per cent, in Aberdeen, to 171 per cent. iu Banff, and to the enormous proportion of 17 . 5 per cent, of the births in Nairn. The general comparison of the social condition of Scotland io this respect with other nations around us, does not afford as favourable a result to the land of John Knox as might have been expected, especially when the facilities afforded by Gretna-'teen are remembered. It' appears that in Sweden only about 6'5 per cent. of the births are illegitimate ; in Norway, 6'6 per cent. ; in England, 61 per cent. ; in Belgium, 6 . 7 per cent. ; in France, 7.1 per cent. ; in Prussia, 7.1 per cent. ; in Den mark, 9 . 3 per cent. ; in Hanover, 9 . 8 per cent. ; while in Austria 11.3 per cent, of the births are illegitimate. —Lanett. A.DVERTISEARNT.I SIGHT AND HEARING SPECTACLES—• POWERFUL TELESCOPES OPERA, RACE, AND PERSPECTIVE GLASSES. —S. and B. Solomons, opticians, 39, Albemarle street, Piccadilly. Observe _opposite the York Hotel, W. By her Majesty's Royal Letters Patent for valuable and ex traordinary improvements in the most powerful and brilliant Telescopes, Camp, Race-course, Opera, and Perspective Glasses, to know the distances. These Telescopes possess such extraordinary power that some, three and a-half inches, with an extra eye-piece will show distinctly Jupiter's moons, Saturn's ring, and the double stars ; with the same telescope can be seen a person's countenance three-and-a-half miles distant and an object From 16 to 20 miles. For the waist coat-pocket, and are of larger, and all sizes, with increasing powers accordingly, The Royal Exhibition, 1851 —A valu able, newly-invented, very small, powerful, Waistcoat-pocket Glass, the size of a walnut, by which a person can be seen and known one and a-half mile distant. They answer every pur pose on the Race-course and at the Opera-houses. Country are ships u d able fo a r r e shooting,cl e al•ly seedneeait..sltalktiongll, Yachting,mito le They sportsmen, gentlemen, gamekeepers, and totrists. Opera, Camp, Perspective, and Race-course Glasses, with wonderful powers. - Invaluable preserving Spectacle Lenses of the greatest transparent power. The great advantage derived from this invention is, that vision impaired becomes pre served and strengthened and very aged persons are enabled to employ their sight at the most minute occupation —can see with those lenses of a much less magnify iug power—and they do not require the frequent changes to the den. gorOUS effects of further powerful assistance. Persons can be suited at the most, remote part of the world by send. lag one of the glasses out of their spectacles in a letter, and stating the distince from the eye they can read small print with it, and those who have not made use of spectacles by stating their age, Deafness.—New Discovery,—The Or ganic Vibrator, an extraordinarily powerful, small, newly-invented instrument for deafness, entirely different from all others, surpassing anything of the kind that has been, or probably can be produced. Being of the same colour as the skin, is not perceptible. It enables deaf persons to hear distinct !yet church and at public assemblies ; the unpleasant sensation at singing n3i see in the ears is entirely removed, and it aflordi 411 the assistance that possibly could be desired,-39, Albe. 'tilde-street. Piccadilly—Opposite the York Hotel. W. BIRTHS. HENLEY —On the 3d inst., at Watford, Northampton• shire, Lady Henley, of a son. HARVEY -- On the 4th inst., at the Admiralty House, Sheerness, the wife of Commander Henry Harvey, R.N., of a son. - MERCER—On the 2d inst., at Sidmouth, the wife of Co]. Harvey Mercer, of a son. TRILL — On the 4th inst., the wife of James Christie Traill, Esq., of the Inner Temple, barrister-at-law, of a son. MARRIAGES, SHARP —TURNER— On the 30th ult., at St. John's Church, Pendlebury, Edward, youngest son of W. Sharp, Esq., of Linden Hall, near Lancaster, to Sarah Catherine, the only surviving daughter of James Aspinall Turner, Esq., M.P., of Pendlebury House, near Manchester. WHEW ELL —AFFLECK On the Ist inst., at St. George's, Hanover-square, the Rev. Dr.Whewell, Master of Trin.- Col., Cambridge, to Evenia Frances, widow of the late Sir Gilbert Affleck, Bart , of Dalham Hall, Suff o lk, (laughter of the late Francis Ellis, Esq., of the Royal Crescent, Bath. DEATHS. ARLEYNE-0 a tha 3d inst. , at the residence of his brother 4, Oxfo l d- sq u a re s Hyde-park, the R ev. Joseph Lowe Alleyne, aged 39. aged 83. B EARNED--onl the 3d inst., at Gloc es t er- t errace, Regent's aria, wif e o f J o h n B ay li s, o f Botolph-lina , city , and Peckham- r y e , Surrey., A. 171, 1 7; - Israelcin the d E L SDON -On the 3d inst., C a pt a i n J ohn Elsdon, aged 69. . ea , GODERICH--On the 3d in A., at 1, Carlton-gardens, Mary Sarah, daughter of Viscount and Viscount Goderich, aged 11 months and 17 days. MATHERS -On the 4th inst., at 30, Nelson-square, Black friary, ltnbert Mathers, Esq., upwards if 55 years in the Bank of England, l:ged 74. MEYNELL -Oa the 3kl inst., at Meynell Langley, Derby shire, Godfrey Meynell, Esq., aged 39. NUNN-On the 3d inst., Thome Nunn, Esq., of Lawford House, Essex, aged 53. POWLETT—On the 3d inst., at Worksop, the Hon. Fred. Orde Powlett, aged 8 years. LONDON: Printed and Published by MURDO YOUIN ) of No. 112, Strand, Printer, at fla Sun Office, No , 112, Strand, in the Precinct of the Savoy, in the county of Iliadlesex, Tueslay, July 6, 1858. g O 44 305 410 S. the' with seng 9/. 1 -Wed SAG ever, from DA' One: - 2 for 2 3 a