The Sun. — London, England, 1860-06-20 00:00:00

( • THE SUN, LUNII _ .MONEY MARKET AND CITY NEWS. 1 SHARE MARKET-(THIS DAY.) BRITISH POSSESSIONS. 4.- . -- • -- CITY, Two O'CLOCK. t ORDINARY SHARES AND STOCKS. Share Railways. Paid " Closing Erica ßusiness d( About £61,000 has been announced from Aus- I !p aid. Closing I Business 100 A Bo t m lan ,B tic ar & od S a t a l :c a e w n r t e i n n ce d all 85 87 Share Rail ways. tralia by the Omar Pasha, and further supplies are Price. Done. stk ( I t Gu. 5 par cent.. .... . 100 964 974 974 expected without delay, as several vessels are 1 18 Do, Do. .13 134 1d 1 d 50 'Belfast and Ballymena all -- I 204 Buffalo and Lake Huron all 44 41d now overdue. 13.14 'Bir., -Wol , and Str. Val. all 8 8 1 20 Do. New - - , . There is very little alteration to notice in the stock Birk., La., and Ch June, 100 74 76 10 Do. Preference 25 Blackburn appearance of the money market, but a larger 25 myth and Tyne all - - 10 Bost. Shef. and Mid. Co all 61 74 6p. ct. bds. Aug. 1, 1872 -" business is reported, and increased activity is likely stock 100 Do. do. July 1, 1873 100 70 75 100 Do. do. June 1, 1874 100 68 73 to prevail during the next fortnight. The rates, Bristol and Exeter ... 100 103_105 stock Caledonian • IGO 911 921 91124 5 Clcutta.&S.Eastn. (Lim) 1. 30. 4 4 1 11) 1 10 Carmarthen & Cardigan 9 - - however, have not undergone ally material .5 0 Cork and Bandon all - - 20 Cape,Eastn.Prov. (Lim.) 25. - - 20 Cape Town & Dock Scrip 3s. 24 If d 1 variation. 20 Cork, Blrock., &Passage all - 20 Ceylon Guarantd. 6p. c. 74 11 1 d • 20 Cornwall About £14,000 in gold, being a portion of th e re Do A (A all 6 4 7 174 Demerara all - - gets no div. / a ll _ - 20 Eastn. Bengal gu. sp. c 5 1 1 d recent American arrival, was sent into the Bank of 10 Do B , until 6pc perm. all - - stoc k East Indian, gu. s p. c. 100 102 1024 1024 1 r hasbeen pd. toB 20 Do. F Shares Ext lO par 4 p England yesterday. 50 Dublin & Belfast Juno. all - - Jubbulpore lO par 1 p 25 Dun., Perth, &Ab. June. all 8 9 100 Do. 41 pc. Debentrs all 99 991 The Foreign Exchanges yesterday afternoon sx- stock East Anglian lOO 16 17 stock Do. sp. c. Deb., 1864.. all 101 1011 stock Eastern Counties lOO 54 55 54 4 hibited a further downward movement in the rates s t oc k E as t ern U n ion, A stock 1 00 36 38 20 Geelong & Melbourne.. all 21 22 Geelong Corporation 6 on Vienna and Trieste. stock Do do Bdo 100 25 27 - sto. percent. Bonds lOO - - 25 Do Nw A. late EU3ds 84 - - stock Grand Trunk of Canada 100 30 31 301 1 1 The South Australian Government Bonds, re- 20 East Suffolk - - 1 0 0 Do. 6 per cent. Pref.. all 91 93 91 4 2 10 Do - - 100 Do. 6 per et. Debentr. all 69 61 604 60 deemable on the Ist proximo, will be paid on the stock Edinburgh & Glasgow 100 774 784 100 Do. 7 per cent. 1862 .. all 78 80 . day following, together with the half yearly stock Edin. Perth, & Dundee yo 294 301 301 30 100 Do. do. 1867 .. all 65 70 66 4 10 Forth & Clyde Junction all - - 100 Do. do. 1872 .. all 65 7 0 interest thereon. stock Furness - - stock Gt. IndiaPenin.gua.sp.c. 100 991 100 991 stock Glasg. and S. Western 100 103 105 20 Do. New gua. sp. c... 6 1 d 1d , In the Liverpool Cotton Market, yesterday, the 10 Great Nthn. of Scotland all - - 20 Gt. South.of India (Lim) 10 1 1 11d demand was rather active, and 10,000 bales were stock Great Northern lOO 1134 1144 114 4 guaranteed 5 per cent. stock Do do A stock disposed of at about previous rates. The Railway stock Po do B do 100 Do. Bonds pay. '76, with 18 91 84d stock Gt. S. &W. of Ireland 100 113 114 113 1 all 97 99 Share Market was more animated, and prices tended stock Great Western upwards. stock Do Str Val ;sus. stock 1 00 60 65 100 "Do. do. '73 till '6O all 97 99 I 12 Trish South-eastern ... all - - 100 Do. do. '73 without opt all 97 99 The Committee of the Stock Exchange have been I stock Lancashire & Yorkshir , 100 1014 105 100 Do. 51 p. c. do. '77 do all 92 94 • stock London and Blackwell 100 704 711 70 1 stock Madras, guar., 44 p. 0 lOO 88 00 requested to make Saturday next a holiday, instock Do. do. 5 per cent lOO 981 994 stock Lon., Bright.. t S Coast 100 1144 1151 11 I order to enable the members, many of whom are 25 Lond., Chat., and Dover all 11 12 114 stock Do. 41 p. c. Extension 100 92 93 stock Loud. & Nth. Western 100 1014 102 1011 4 20 Do. Fourth do.. lO 14 4 d volunteers, to attend the grand review. No deci- 121 Do eighths - - • stock Lond. & sth Western lOO 93 94 94 stock Melb.Corp. 6p. c. Bnds. 100 - - sion has yet been announced, but there is an l m- 25 L'derry & C Coleraine - - Newßruns wick & Canda pression that the application will prove successful. 25 L'derry & Ennislu all 10 11 20 Ry.&Land(Lim.)g.6pc stock Man. Shef. & Lin-oln Notice has been given that the dividend on the so msryport and Carlisle all - - .. Do. do. Land do following securities will be paid on and after the 124 Do do 1 shares.... all - - 20 Do. do. B Capital do. :: all 5 7 10 Sletropolitan stock Midland 2d proximo, viz., Russian 41 per Cents., Canada 100 117 117/ 117 1 20 Oude (Limited) ........ ss. - - stock Do I ?irming. & Derby 100 95 97 - stock Scinde .. Sterling Debentures, Nova Scotia 6 per Cents., 50 Mid. Gt. W. o f I re l an d all - - 20 Do. Punjaub ... . al g all 14 dld 31 New Brunswick 6 25 Do A shares per Cents., Virginia State 5 per - - 20 Do. Do. ........ Fs c? 5 - - d 25 Mid Kent all - - stock Do. Indus. St. Flo. 4„,0 , 100 95/ 964 Cents., South Carolina 5 per Cents., Boston City 10 Do, Cray Line 100 Newcastle and Ctrlisle all - - 20 St. Andrews & Quebec A 18 - - all - - Sterling 41 per Cents., and Havannah Railroad 7 25 N ew., A b er. & Hereti _ all 10 11 10 Trinidad (Lim.) Scrip.. 1 1 1 d per Cent. Bonds. 10 Newry & Armagh, def 9 7 6 d FOREIGN RAILWAYS. 20 Newry, Warnpt. & Ros all - - 19 Antwerp & Rotterdam) all 41 41 1 There has been very little business in Public stock Norfolk... 100 54 56 20 Ardennes .... ......... all - -p' Irt North Countiesßr,British s h . . 11 . n . 1 . oi! .. Securities to-day, and the changes in prices have sto so ck I% 100 621 634 63 i 3 i 5 Belgian East. Junction all 4 1 been unimportant, Consols being 931, I. Specula- stock Nor.Dev.Rail&Dk.sioe , 100 - 20 Beziers to Graissessac.. all - - stock D• A atk ; A recs no d. 10 Buen.Ayres &S. Ferndo 21 - - p Lion is extremely dull, and very few bargains are until 6pchas beenpd.B 100 - - 6 Carmeaux Mine & Rail all 21 21 ~ stock Do B stock ..... •-. 100 - - 100 Copiabo " ......&...... all - - reported for the investing public. New Loans still lo Ditto Extension .... all 14 14(1 stock Nth. E as t ern- B erw i c k 100 951 063 96 4 d 20 Dutch Rhenish ... . 15 54 510 form the leading topic of conversation. The New 25 Dodo, G.N.E. purchase 16134 11 1 4 stock Do Leeds ..... .. _ 100 51f 521 52 20 Eastern of France .... all 233 211 • 3 'per Cents. and the Reduced are flat at 931 Z ; stock Do York '- • • - - India 5 per Cent. Enfaced Paper is firm at 971 ; stock North London . 100 104 106 20 Do. do. all - - 20 Great Central of France all - - 20 North Staffordshire ir . e . .. " 171 431 d 13 1 ditto 51 per Cent. ditto at 102: •; and the Deben- 10 N. and S. W. Junction all 91 94 20 Gt. Luxem., con. shs... all 64 7 12 Not. & Grantham Rail_ 10 61 64 20 Italian Junction ~ ... all - - tures are 961 1 ; Exchequer Bills, 2s. to 7s. prem. stock Oxf. Wor. & Wolverptn 100 44 45 441 20 Lake Constance & Bale. all - - 20 Lierre & Turnhout .... all - - oc The transactions in the Foreign .St k market 20 10 P p eebles ...... - - ortsmouth - - 20 Lyons & Geneva .. all - - have been limited, and prices are tolerably fi rm . 10 Ithymney.....• - - 331 Maria Antonia .... ... all - - stock Scottish Central - ............ all - - Turkish 6 per Cents, are 77 to 771 ; ditto New, 60 stock Scot. N. E., Aber. stock 100 321 331 23 1 2 1 20 Namur & Liege ........ all 81 84 to 601 ;Portuguese have improved to 45 , 1 ; Brazi- 100 87 89 stock Do Scot. Mid. stock 4 . 20 Do. 6p. c. Pref......... all 194 194 16 Northern of France._ . all 331 391 lien. 41 per Cents. (1858) to 88 ; ditto Scrip to 1 stock Shropshire Union - 10 Sittinebourne & Sheer. all 4 3 d 20 Do. New Shares is 4 stock South Devon dis., and Russian 5 per Cents., to 1091; ditto 41 stock South Eastern stock South Wales per Cents. remain at 97 ; and ditto 3 per Cents., 20 I Recife &S. Fran. (Fern.) at 641. stock S. York. and River Dun 100 78 80 20 Staines, Wok,. and Wok all ' 6 8 ( gua. 7_p. ct. 1im...... 13 14 14 d 25 Stockton & Darlington all 38 4 39 1 2 0 Riga & Dunaburg...... 10 - - The Ocean Marine Insurance shares are 1 : e pm. ; 25 Do do 9 8/ 9 p 10 Rome & Frascati ...... all - - - Stockton & Hartlepool 161 - - 20 Royal Dani5h.......... a ll 13 15 the Thames and Mersey :to i prem.; and the stock Taff Vale . . - - 5 Royal Swedish ........ all - - Universal, par / prem. stock Do Pref. No 1 lOO - - 4 Do. 7 per cent. Pref.... all - - 25 ThamesHavenEk&Rail 22 - - - In the Railway Share Market the transactions 50 Ulster .• • 10 Do. 51 per Cent. Pref..... all 81 81 have not been extensive, and prices varied only to a 25 Do 20 2 4 3 20 San Paulo, lim, g. 7p. c. 2 1 4d 12 10 Do .... •.. limited extent. London and Blaekwall, Midland, stock Vale of Nea • th - • • 100 53 58 - 20 Southern of France.... all 20 2( and South-Eastern have receded about ss. ; North 13 Victoria Sta. and Pim .. all 10 11 84 West Fl an d ers stock Waterford & Kilkenny 100 - - 10 Do. 61 p. c. Preference.. all 91 94 British have advanced 15s. ; and Edinburgh, Perth, 50 Waterford & Limerick all - - 20 W. Si N.W. of France .. all 22 23 , 20 West Cornwall ........ all 54 64 23 Western of Austria.... 6 - - and Dundee, 10s. 20 West London... ...... . all - - 20 Western of Switzerland all - - 10 Do lsi class ........ all - - 20 Do 2nd class ........ all - - 6 Wiesbaden ... .. . . .... all - - The Foreign and Colonial Markets are very dull. 6 DO. 8 per cent. 'Pref - all - - Sambre and Meuse are 5: 51i East Indian have 12; Worcester &Hereford.. 114 2 1 d 2O Zealsnd - - Advanced to 1021 1021, and Grand Trunk of Canada PREFERENCE. SHARES. BRITISH MINES. to 301 301. Great Indian Peninsula have declined 1 Closing Business Sh ra „ .l Closing I Business to 99:. Share' Share ) , Railways. Paid. P r i ce. D one . Mines. Pa id . J Done. Joint-Stock Bank and Miscellaneous Shares 25 'Blythe and Tyne 10 per - - Altre i Consols (Philack) 2.11.10 4 44 f C. pref. (issued at £5 O all - - 20 British Iron stk Rris. & Exet.4 p.ctstock 100 96 98 - Clifford - - 2 40' 250 - proved ss. ; Union of London, 10s. ; Red Sea Tele- 120 Do. do. do. Shares l4 - - - Devon G. Cons. (Tavist.) 1 445 455 I have been very inactive. Oriental Bank h ave i m - East Bassett (Illogan).. 30 1321 1374 graph have declined about ss. stock Caledon £10,44 per cent 100 101 103 1013 12.10 Do. Quer. Shares, No. 2. all - - - East Caradon .- .. ..... 2.14.5 8/ 81 6; Cork & Bandon, 54 p. c. all - - E. WI Russel (Tavistk.) 7.4.0 114 121 - 20 Cornwall. 5 per cent all - - - Gam.&St.Aubyn(Gwen.) 544 41 43 BRITISH FUNDS-CLOSING PRICES. - Great South Tolgus.... 17s 111 12 124 stock Bank Stock E.Angn.Class A 7 &sp.e. 100 101 103 - G.Wheal Alfd. (Philo ck) 12.13.9 1 14 3 per Cent. Reduced Annuities 934 1 4 stock Do. do. Class B 6 p.c.._ 100 112 115 -G. Wheal Vor (Heiston) 91 4 4 New 3 per Cent. Annuities - Grenville 5.14.6 24 31 Annuities, 30 yrs, expire sth Jan., 1880.. - stock E. Coun. Ex. sp. c. No. 1 100 110 112 - Herod's- F00t..... Ditto for 30 yrs, expire sth April, 885.... 16/ stock Do. do. No. 2 100 109 111 stock Do. New 6 per ct. stock. 100 125 127 - Hing,ston Downs 4.7.0 4 4 - Lady Bertha India Stock .. ' .-- stock Eastern Union, 4 per ct. 100 81 83 -,M argaret (Uny Lelant) 9; 40 45 Ditto Enfaced Paper, 5 per Cent. - -stock Do. 5 per csut. guar... 100 - - - 'North Downs 24 5 51 Ditto 6 per Cent. - 'North France 4 (Illogan) 11 4 5 51 Ditto 54 per Cent. - I N.Wh'I Basset (1110 an) 5s 51 6 ' Ditto Debentures, 1858 964 1 stock Edin. Perth& Dun. 4 p.c. 100 75 76 - North Wheal Crofty .. 9.18.9 85 91 ! Ditto Bonds £l,000 - - - Par Consols (St. Blazey) 1/ 12; 131 stock Glas.& S. West.g.a. 5 p.c. 100 118 120 20 Providence (Uny Leint.) 10.6.7 47 49 Consols for Account, 10th July .. 934 4 4 stock Great Northern, sp. ct. 100 116 114 - Sortridge Cons. Min. Co. 12s 15 11 14 India Stock, 5 per cent. - stock Do.sp.c.Redm., 10 p.c.pm 100 111 112 112 112 - South Caradon(StCleer) 14 295 300 Ditto Account - S. Cam Brea (Illogan).. 3 3 31 Exchequer Bills, £I,OOO, lid D tro £5OO 4 7 10 Gt. lkih. of Scotid. Ist pf. all - - stock r Gt. Sn. Si W (Ireland)4 - S.Wheal Fran. (Mogan) 18.1 4 .9 165 170 Ditto Small - Stray Park 26.18.0 57 59 FOREIGN FUNDS-CLOSING PRICES. p. at pref. stock.... 50 Great West. (Berke and 5 Tam it Silv.& Lead MM 45 21 21 10 Tin Croft Brasilian 5 per Cent - Hants) Ext. sp. ct... 6 - - - Vale of Towey (Carm.) 13s 6d 1 4 Ditto 44 per Cent. 1858 BB stock Do. Redeemable,4l p.et. 100 100 102 101 - West Basset (Illogan).. 2.4 18 19 Ditto Scrip .. i 4 d stock Do. Redeemable, 4 p . ct. 100 90 92 - stock Do. Irredeemable, d 0... 100 92 94 -W. Caradon (Liskeard) 5 664 681 Grenada New Active, 34 per Cent. - West Seaton Wheal Basset (Illogan) • 5 150 160 Portuguese 3 per Cent., 1853. .. 45 4 8 Do. Birm. Prof. Shares. all 94 104 - Wheal Buller (Redruth) 5 90 95 Russian 5 per Cent. 1822, £St .. 1094 10 qt. W. Ches. 8 p.c. pf.sb. all 17 18 174 1 - Wheal Edward (Call.) 61 2 4 21 Ditto 44 per Cent 97 10 Do des p. ct. pref. all 104 104 104 - 'Wheal Kitty (U.Lelant) 1.7.2 14 15 Ditto 3 per Cent., 1859 - 'Wheal Mary Ann (Men.) 8 21 22 - Spanish 3 per Cent.. ... - 261 Do. Chester gua. shares all 191 201 191 - Wheal Trelawney (Lis.) -54 27 28 134 Do. do. do. Ditto Account Ditto New Deferred - stock Lan.&York 6p. c. stock. 100 139 141 20 Australian Ditto Account - - 1 BonAccordCopper,Lim. 15 s 5 d pr Ditto Passive - stock Do. 6 per C. (E. Lan.) _ 100 - - . 35 Brazil. Imp. (is. at £ i p.) 271 - Tarkish 6 per Cent •• - stock Lon.& Brig. 5 pc.gii. No.l 100 116 118 20 D o .St.Johndel Rey,Lim 15 30 31 301 stock Do. sp. c. No. 2 100 116 1,18 5 Do.L and and Mining Co. all - - Ditto Account - dis. Ditto New Loan - stock Do. do. sp. c. No. 4 100 116 118 40 Cobre Copper all 43 45 Ditto Account Dividends on the above payable in London. 5 Do. do. 41 p. c. shares.. 21 - - 3 4 1 DunMoun.Cop.Ming.Co all 1 stock Do. 7p. ct. Pref. stock. 100 154 157 2 Fortuna. Ditch Exchange, 12 Guil. 2; per Cent... - stock Do. 6p.c. do. (W.E.&C.P.) 100 132 136 20 General all 23 25 Ditto Certificates, 4 per Cent. THREE O'CLOCK. 25 Lou. Chat. and Dover.. ,11 20 22 11 Kapanda (Limited)..... 1 1/ 11 p Consols for Account, ex div. 934 1 stock Lon. and N.W. Coy. and 3 Linares all 104 114 Nuneaton, sp.et.. .. 100 116 118 5 Lusitanian 2 1d p stock Lon. & S.W, 7n. ct. stock 100 1524 1571 1 Mariquita all 1 1 _ LAW IN2'ELLIGENCE.-(This day.) 12; Londondy. & Cole. 4 sh. all - - 1 N.RhineCopofS.Aus.L los. 14 d 12/ Londony. & Ennis. 4 sh. all 12 121 20 Pontgibaud Silver,Lead -• stock Man. Sh. &Lin. 6 per ct. 100 126 128 Mining and Smelt.... all 5 7 SECONDARIES COURT. 6 Do. £6 44 4 4 P 5 Port Philip 1 1 1 stock Do. 31 per cent (Before Mr. Potter and a Jury.) 10 Do. redeem. 13 per cent 5 i 1 P 281'81 United Mexican ........ ad 1 - 4 2 14 BREACH OF PROMISE AND SEDUCTION, DAMAGES £5OO- 12 Mary sort Si Car., 4p. c all - - 1 ! Worthing (Limited).... all f i WRIGHT V. WALKER. 12 1 Do. 41 per cent - - 1 I Do 19s. stock Mid. Con. 6p. Rstock.. 100 - - This was a writ of enquiry to assess the damages laid at stock Do.Con.Bris. & Bir. 6 p.c. 100 140 142 £l,OOO in a breach of promise of marriage, defendant hay- stock Do. SI p. c. pref. stock.. 100 103 105 . JOINT-STOCK BANKS. ing suffered judgment to go by default. 6 Do. with option till 1860 3 11 p 100 Agra&UnitedService Bk 50 - - • Mr. Flintoff, instructed by Mr. Brady, for the plaintiff stock Do. Lela & Hit. pref. at. 100 94 96 40 Australasia all - - 611 stated that this was one of the most heartless cases ev e r 10 fNewport ,Aberatc.pref. 5 1 all 9/ 101 25 Bank ot Egypt all 214 2 2 p.c.redeem.at 5 p.c.pm. 100 Bank of London brought under the notice of a jury. Plaintiff was the 10 Do. Perpet. 6p. c. with 20 Bank of Turkey 3 - - daughter of a small farmer at Barkingside, Essex. The option till 1c 1 66 ..... . all 114 123 50 Br 20 Chfn.Bank of India, &c all 19 1 20 204 ktish North American all - - father was dead and had left a widow with nine 12 10 Do. till 1869, Ist is. 9 I 1 3 P" 25 Ch. Mer. of In. Lon& Ch. all 30 32 children. Plaintiff being anxious to relieve her mother 124 Do. do. 2d la. 2; - -Pi 100 - - 1 100 City - - from pressing expenses, took a small cottage, and kept a stock Norlik sp. C. Ex. at. 18 46 lOO Colonial ........ .. . . - - school. She had many pupils, and things went on pros- stock Do. 54 p. c. Pref. do. 18441 100100 -__ --- stock Do.sWay.Val.Ex.st.lB ‘ 2o'll Corn. Bank of Can ada • all - - perously. In 1852 defendant, who came from Wolverhamp- stock North British, sp.a .. 100 110 112 100 Commercial of London 20 Eng., Scot., Si Ans. Ch all 161 164 ton, in Staffordshire, arrived at Barkingaide, where he car- stock Do. New, gua. sp. c.... 100 - - 20 Gen. Bk .of Switzerland all - -- ried on business as a dairyman. In February 1859 plaintiff 10 I Do. Bor. Un. g. pf. she 1 4 1 r 20 Lon. Char.Bkof Austral all 224 23 23 and her friends went to defendant's house and then 10 ' Do. do. do. all - - 50 London and County - - 35 defendant offered her marriage. Plaintiff declined to stock Nth.Dev.llail. &Dck.Co. 100 -- -- 7 50 London r Joint Stock - -2/ give a specific answer then, and on the following morn- stock N-East.Cons.Pref. 4p. c. 100 91 9 1 ~, 100 London Si Westm aster 20 - - 60 ing defendant wrote to her to the effect that if her Frei 100 143 97 ~ stock Do. Berwick, 4 p.c. • .. . 4 d 100 Nat. Prov. of England . 35 - - 17 Do. do. do Q 13.4• 1 - affections were not enaged, he should be ve2o Do. new lO - g 1 7 20 Do. Leeds, 6p. e. No. 1 13 - - 50 National Bank ........ 25 - - happy to marry her. Plaintiff consulted with her friends 124 Do. do. Quarters, * 1848.. 9 - -, 20 New South Wales.- all - - 303 0 and defendant was fi nally admitted as her betrothed. In 25 Do. York, H. Si S. Pura. 10 p P all - - May, 1859, defendant having obtai n ed great hold upon 20 North Staffordshire.... all 23 24 20 Do. new 25 Orient. B. Corporation - - 421 34 a plaintiff's affections, succeeded in effecting her ruin. On stock Ox.Wr.Wol. 6p. c. Ist g. 100 124 125 125 4 20 Ottoman Bank ... the night of the 10th of that month and the following morn- stock Do. Redeem. 2d gua.... 100 - - 100 Provincial of Ireland - - ing he renewed his promise to marry her, and said he would stock Do. Irredeem. 2d gum _ 100 120 123 122 20 10 Rhymney Guaranteed. all - - 1 0 Do. new - - do so before the end of the month. He said he would marry 84 Scottish Central, new pf all - - 25 South Australia - - her in London, which would save a great deal of trouble. stock Scottish North-Eastern I 25 Union of Australia - - 424 He continued his attentions, a n d aga i n did h e sue - 34 p. c. pref. stock.... 100 73 75 50 Union ot London - - 25 41 5 ceed in overcoming the virtuous sc ru pl es o f pl a i n tiff, stock Do.Aberdeen,gua.6p.c. 100 - - 122 100 Unity Mutual.. ...... - - who, at his request, gave up her school and went to reside stock Do. 7p. C. pref. stock 100 - - with her mother. Plaintiff soon afterwards became en- 10s. South Devon, Ann. 10s. all 104 11 CO L O NIAL GOVERNMENT aICURITIES. 10 Do. Fixed 4/ per cent. all - - dente, and defendant, instead of performing his promise , _ 1.0.6 South Eastern (Reading - 'an.Gov. 6 p.c.Ja. & J uly 100 1 1 5 117 - Do. 6p. cent. 188 1 100 - - actually went to Romford and brought home a women with Ann., 1.0.6) - Do. 6p. cent. 1881 100 - - I whom he lived, and whom he had since married. He was stock Do. 44 per cent lOO 101 103 - Do. 6p. cent. 1882 100 - - stock ' Do. Fixed 'lp.c. Ist is lOO 101 103 expostulated with by defendant's friends upon this scan- - Do. 6p. c. Feb. Si Aug. 100 110 112 dalous conduct,. and expressed a wish to see plaintiff, who stock 'outh Wales , g ua . 4 c. 100 89 91 stock Do. 44 per cent. ,g P• - Do. 6p. c. Mar. Si Sept. 100 110 112 100 99 101 met him in a lane near his house. He seized hold of her stock S.-Yorkshire, 4p. c.,gua. 100 86 88 - i Do. 5 per cent lOO 1021 1021 1024 - I Do. Scrip 42 - - and endeavoured to crush ber, but was unsuccessful. On 25 Stock. Si Dar. A 5 p. c.. all 28 29 - N.B.Gov. 6 p.c. JaatrJuly 100 108 109 1084 the 18th of April a child was born. He (defendant was 25 Do. B 6 per cent all 334 341 33 1 in a good Bar kingsi de, and g one back os ition and had since this affair sold 25 Do. C 6 p 1 - Do. 6p. c. Ap. Si Oct. 100 - er cent all 33 34 -.N. S. W. Gov. sp. c., 1866 100 100 101 stock Watrfd Si Kilkny, 6p. C. 100 44 48 k off all his pr operty-left - Do. sp. c., 1871 to 1876 100 100 101 1004 to Wolverhampton to reside with his father, who was an - Do. 5 p.c.,1888 & upwd 8 100 100 101 1001 LINES LEASED AT FIXED RENTALS. - Nova Scotia Gov. 6p. c. , old man, and very well off. Now p laintiff had by this foul sterling, 1875 lOO 1084 1094 MI 4 Leasing \Closing Business conduct on the part of defendant been entirely prevented Railways. Paid. - ,S.Aus.Gt. 6 p.c.1878 & up. 100 110 112 Co.'s. Price. Done. from following her occupation, for no one would entrust a Bedford and Bletchley all Ln & N.W .. .. - 'Via Gov. 6 p.c. Ja.&,Tuly 100 - - child to her now. He (Mr. F lintoff) called upon the jury .. _ Buckinghamshire .... 100 Ln &N.W 96 98 961 - I Do. do. 6 p.c. Ap.ezOct. 100 107/ 108 . 1071 4 8 to give exemplary damages. Plaintiff, a most interesting young woman, was called, Chester Si Holyhead. and proved the breach of promise' and her mother, sister, Do. do. 54 per cent ./ 100 Do. 125 127 10 lAn,glo-Mexican Mint .. all 131 141 Do. do. 5 per cent' 100 Do 113 115 and brother proved that defendant had kept a large dairy Clydesdale Junction.. , 100 Caledonia 103 105 1000 'Atlantic Tel. (Limited) all - - and 20 crows. Colchester, Stour Val. all E.U.&E C 16 17 E.Lincolnshire,g6 p.c. 100 Gt. North. 138 140 25 'Australian Agricultural 19 29 31 430 The learned Secondary said it was for the jury to assess 10 Berlin Water (Limited) all 44 5 the damages, which they did at £5OO. E.Union,Harwich Shs all E.Counts. 41 44 50 British American Land 40 - - Do. Woodbridge ... 100 -7 Gls.Barr.&Neils,Drct. 100 Caledonia - - 20 Do. 8,7p.c.ti111852 (Lim.) all 19 21 • THIS DAY'S SHIPPING. Do. New .... •• .. .. 100 Do. .. .. - - 20 Do. C. (Limited) all 13 15 Gloster& Dean Forest all Gt. W es t.. - - 32/ Canada Land all 120 125 1 HartlpoorDek.& Rail. all Yk.N.&Br, - - 10 Chan.lslands Tel. (Lim.) all 6 8 LONDON, June 20.-Wind this day at noon-South ; Hull and Selby ... ... all Yk.N. Md. 111 113 stock Cop. itlin.ofEng.&Smltg. all 22 27 moderate breeze, and cloudy weather, with occasional Do. 1 Shares - - 553 25 Do. l Pref. 71 per cent .. all 244 2,54 25 stock Crystal Palace showers of rain. Do. 1 Shares ....... all Do. FALTMOUTH, June 18.--Wind S.W. Sailed Acastus,stock Do. ! Preference stock ,Do. 6p. c. Perpet. Deben lOO 104 106 for Trinidad. London & Greenwich 1 .as. .. 65 Lanc.,t Carl. gua.s p.c. 100 s Ln E .ez N e W 1 20 6 8 3 211 1115 120 stock . Electric Telegraph Do. Preference . ..... 100 Do. QUEENSTOWN, June 17,-Arrived-Windermere, 25 Do. New l5 p i p Demerara. 100 !Norfolk .. - - Lowestoft, gua. 4 p.ct. - 5 English & Aus. Copper. all 21 21 15 Gen. Steam Nevislati m 14 - - ' _ PLYMOUTH, June 19.-Win.d S.W:-Anived-Bilboa, m i tn 6 e. P , 100 Do. dermere, from Lon.. ,Tilby.& Soutend. , 100 Peto Si Co.! 94 97 1 Great Ship 1 inited) all I I : screw steamer, from London. 1 Do. 171 p. ct Preference I /d 1 p Mid. Bradford Prefer- 20 Indian Si Aust. Telegr. 2s. - --- B er ux ce tn n . t st - M - a - ti. all IL NW&M 21 34 3 5 Lon. District Tel. (Lim.) 2 14 ld (BY ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH.) SOUTHAMPTON, Wednesday Morning. ( Midland 96 98 97 20 London Discount (Lim.) 5 1 Oid Ne e wni nce a S r t k oc t. k m . o .. r . y . E . x .. l . 4 L.G. Omnibus Co. (Lim.) all 11 11 guaranteed 5 p. 0.1 . . 55 57 57 0 5. 6 ,E.Counts it i P 20 Madras Ire. and Canal 1 24 3 p Wind S. 10 Mediter. Electric Teleg all --- --- Northn.& Eastn. 5 p.c. all Do. ..... 141 15 141 10 Med. Exten. Tel. (Lim ) all 21 3 (BY SUBMARINE AND BRITISH TELEGRAPH.) Do. d F o i . x 6 ed pe o r pceenrtee..n.t.. a a l l l l D D o o : ...... : .. : ...= _- North Western GRA.VESEND, Wednesday Mornin g . Preston and Wyre. f all l ar L ic . y W k. 1 - 20 Nerbu.Coal&lron (Lim.) 5 14 1 d 10 Netherlands Land all - Wind S; light; tide first hour's flood; weather fine. Do. 4 Stares A. all D 0..... ., - :IT 5 Do.B p.c.Pref..iss.att dis. all DEAL, Wednesd a y Morning. Roystn.Ffitch., Si Shep 100 Gt. North. 135 138 100 N. Br.&NovaScotiaLa n d 80 10 1 151 Wind W. moderate. -' Shrewsbry& Hereford 100 T.BritSSey 103 106 1 N.B.Australasian (Lim.) all Do. 1 I imbledon w.SwoDiulottls'i and d affordshire .. all M`Clean.. l 1 0 5 11 1 Do. New Shares (Lim.) . 15s. 4pr ,t S omerset.. croy Wes t . \ 93 95 10 Orintl.ln.Steam(Lim.)A ,6 - - DEVON MINING COMPANY.-We beg to directlo Ditto B. - - especial attention to the prospectus of the Devon Union - dn. 1 1) 011 L G . t .t • W Brgt e J . J__/L.!_-1 8 • "' ----- 10 Ditto C - - Mining Company, which will be found in another part of -- DOCKS. - stock Pee l ß.Lnd.dsMin.(Lim ) 100 45 48 46 50 Pen. & Oriental Steam The Sun. To those who embark in such undertakings this • 50 Do. New „ 2O 11 13 p company seems to us to hold out the greatest induce- Share Docks. I Paid. Price. Done. 20 RedSea&lnd.TeLg.44p.c 174 id pl 7 meats. The directors are men of affluence and position, the - Closing 1 '------- 50 Rhymney Iron officers thorough practical men, and the property proposed ss o sk stock Eastls Do. New all 51 6 Commercial per Cent.Pref.M al 1 100 to bo worked is of the most promising character. Opera- stock Do. 4 100 Royal Mail Steam stock Scot. Austin. Inv. (Lim ) 100 60 1 5 2 0 0 4 13 5 P tions have been commenced, and already four lodes of very n have been discovered, and judging valuable Ilescriptio mentioned in the prospectus, the speculation must turn out highly successful. - stock London and West In dies stock St. Katharine ' stock Southa stock Victoria rapton in lOO i f:1 100 100 - - - - 100 ! - 100 1 100 102 BO Do Nevi' ..... .• .... X I id SP . 5 South Australian Laud all 34 3N 1 Submarine Tel. Scrip.. all 1 Do. do. Registered .... all 20 Tr. 4 Ln. Co.oftipr.Can. 5 100 Vol Diemen'o Land ... 284 91 103 Share Railways. Paid Closing " Frio,. Business done 100 A Bo t m lan ,B tic ar & od S a t a L .c a e w n r t e i n n ce d all 85 87 stk lOO 964 974 971 Gu. 5 par cent........ 18 Do, Do. 1 131 4 d 4 d 204 Buffalo and Lake Huron all 41 41d 20 Do. New 10 Do. Preference 100 1 Buffalo,Brant&Godrich 100 75 80 6 p. ct. bds. Aug. 1, 1872 100 Do. do. July 1, 1873 100 70 75 100 Do. do. June 1, 1874 100 68 73 5 Clcutta.&S.Eastn. (Lim) 1. 30. id IP 4 20 Cape,Eastn.Prov. (Lim.) 2s. 20 Cape Town & Dock Scrip 3s. 21 If d 1 20 Ceylon Guarantd. 6p. c 74 14 1 d 174 Demerara all 20 Eastn. Bengal gu. sp. c 5 1 4 d stock East Indian, gu. s p . c . 100 102 1024 1024 1 20 Do. F Shares Ext lO par 1 p 20 - Do. Jubbulpore lO par 1 p 100 Do. 41 pc. Debentrs all 99 994 stock Do. sp. c. Deb., 1864 all 101 1014 20 Geelong & Melbourne all 21 22 sto. Geelong Corporation 6 100 per cent. Bonds stock Grand Trunk of Canada 100 30 31 301 1 1 1 0 0 Do. 6 per cent. Pref all 91 93 914 2 100 Do. 6 per et. Debentr all 69 61 604 60 100 Do. 7 per cent. 1862 100 Do. do. 1867 100 Do. do. 1872 stock Gt.lndiaPenin.gua.sp.c lOO 994 100 991 20 Do. New gua. sp. c 6 4d 1d •„ 20 Gt. South.of India (Lim) 10 11 11d guaranteed 5 per cent. 201 Gt. W. of Canada Shares all 111 114 111 201 Do. New 100 Do. Bonds pay. '76, with all 97 99 opt, till '6O 100 "Do. do. '73 till '6O all 97 99 100 Do. do. '73 without opt all 97 99 100 Do. 51 p. c. do. '77 do all 92 94 stock Madras, guar., 44 p. c lOO 88 00 stock Do. do. 5 per cent lOO 981 994 stock Do. 44 p. c. Extension 100 92 93 20 Do. Fourth do. 20 Do. d 0..... stock Melb.Corp. 6p. c. Buds lOO Newßruns wick & Canda 20 Ry. &Lan d(Lim.)g.6pc all 5 7 Class A Capital Share Do. do. Land do.. 20 Do. do. B Capital do all 5 7 Do. do. Land do. . . 20 Oude (Limited) ........ ss. stock Scinde .. 20 Do. Punjaub .... cd g all 11 d 1 d 31 20 Do. Do. .... .. Fs c? 5 d stork Do. Indus. - St. Flo. 4„9 , 100 954 964 . 1 20 St. Andrews & Quebec A 18 10 Trinidad (Lim.) Scrip.. 1 4 4 d FOREIGN RAILWAYS. 19 Antwerp & Rotterdam) all 41 41 20 Ardennes * ......... all —p 20 Bah.&S.Fran Lim.7 p.c. 7 1 3d' 5 Belgi in East Junction all 4 1 20 Beziers to Graissessac.. all 10 Buen.Ayres &S. Ferndo 21 p 6 Carmeaux Mine & Rail all 24 24 100 Coplabo ......&...... all 10 Ditto Extension .... all 14 lid 20 Dutch Rhenish 20 Eastern of France .... all 231 211 20 Grand Rus. Guar. 6p. c 6 20 Do. do. all 20 Great Central of France all 20 Gt. Luxem., con. shs... all 61 7 20 Italian Junction ~ ... all 1 20 Lake Constance & Bale. all 20 Lierre & Turnhout .... all t 20 Lyons & Geneva .. all 331 Maria Antonia .... ... all 10 Do. New ............ all 20 Namur & Liege ........ all 81 81 1 20 Do. 6p. c. Pref......... all 191 194 16 Northern of France.... all 331 391 20 Do. New Shares . ... 12 p 1 10 Norwegian Trunk Pref. all 8 9 81 1 20 Paris,Lyons, ez, Mediter. all 314 35 20 Recife & s Paris&or. Fran. leans. (Fern.).—.:.. all 53 55 1 20 1 gua. 7_p. ct. 1im...... 13 11 11 d 20 Riga & Dunaburg...... 10 10 Rome & Frascati ...... all 1 20 Royal Dani5h.......... all 13 15 5 Royal Swedish ........ all 4 Do. 7 per cent. Pref.... all 1 20 Sambre & Meuse ...... ad 51 51 51 i l 10 Do. 51 per Cent. Pref..... all 81 81 20 San Paulo, lim, t. 7p. c. 2 4 4d I 20 S.Aust.&Lomb Veuetin 12 Id. 1p 1 20 Southern of France.... all 20 21 1 81 West Flanders 10 Do. 61p. c. Preference.. all 91 94 1 20 W. & N.W. of France .. all 22 23 1 23 Western of Austria.... 6 20 Western of Switzerland all 6 Wiesbaden ...* .. . . .... all t 6 DO. 8 per cent. Pref.... all i 20 Zeal Altre i Consols (Philack) 2.11.10 4 44 f 20 Britieh Iron Clifford - 240 250 Devon G. Cons. (Tavist ) 1 445 455 I East Bassett (Illogan) 3O 1321 1371 East Caradon . .. E. WI Russel (Tavistk ) 7.4.0 114 121 Gam.&St.Aubyn(Gwen ) 541 41 43 Great South Tolgus l7s 114 12 121 G.Wheal Alfd. (Philack) 12.13.9 1 14 G. Wheal Vor (Helston) 94 4 4 Grenville 5.14.6 2/ 31 Herod's- Foot 8.12 274 29 Hingston Downs 4.7.0 4 4 Lady Bertha ,Margaret (Uny Lelant) 94 40 45 North Downs 2/ 5 54 North France 4 (Illogan) 11 4 5 51 I N.Wh'I Basset (1110 an) 5s 54 6 North Wheal Crofty Par Consols (St. Blazey) 1/ 121 134 20 Providence (Uny Lelnt.) 10.6.7 47 49 Stztriclze Cons. Min. Co. 12s 15 11 11 South Caradon(St.Cleer) 11 295 300 S. Cam Brea (Illogan) 3 3 35 1 S. Dev. Iron &Gen., Lim. all 4 11 S.Wheal Fran. (Mogan) 18.1 4 .9 165 170 Stray Park 26.18.0 57 59 5 Tam it Silv.& Lead Min. 41 25 2/ 10 Tin Crott Vale of Towey (Carm ) 13s 6d 4 4 West Basset (Illogan) 2.4 18 19 W. Caradon (Liskeard) 5 661 681 Went Seaton Wheal Basset (Illogan) •51 150 160 Wheal Buller (Redruth) 5 90 95 Wheal Edward (Cals.) 6} 21 24 IWheal Kitty (U.Lelant) 1.7.2 14 15 'Wheal Mary Ann (Men.) 8 21 22 Wheal Trelawney (Lis.) -51 27 28 FOREIGN MINES. 20 Australian 1 BonAccord Copper,Lim lss 1 d pr 35 Brazil. Imp. (is. at £i p ) 271 20 Do.St.Johndel Rey,Lim 15 30 31 304 5 Do.L and and Mining Co. all 1 Clarendon Cons.MinCo. 4 die. 40 Cobre Copper all 43 45 Copiapo l6 11 13 1 DunMoun.Cop.Ming.Co all 4 1 2 Fortuna. 20 General all 23 25 2 Gt. N. Cop. of S. Austr 1 4 d par 4 11 Kapunda (Limited) 1 15 11 p 3 Linares all 101 111 5 Lusitanian 2 4 d p 1 Mariquira all 4 4 1 N.RhineCopofS.Aus.L los. 4 1 d 20 Pontgibaud Silver,Lead Mining and Smelt all 5 7 5 Port Philip 1 1 1 1 Scottish Austrin. (L.) los, 51 d 28'2'81 United Mexican . 1 Worthing (Limited) all 1 i 1 I Do 19s. —..— JOINT-STOCK BANKS. 100 Agra&UnitedService Bk 50 - • 40 A ustralasia all 614 25 Bank ot Egypt all 211 22 100 Bank of London ....... 50 54 66 551 20 Bank of Turkey 3 50 BriAsh North American all 20 Chfrl.Bank of India, &c. all 194 20 201 25 Ch. Mer. of In. Lon.& Ch all 30 32 100 City - 100 Colonial 2l 20'11 Corn. Bank of Canada all 100 Commercial of London 20 Eng., Scot., & Aus. Ch all 161 164 20 Gen. Bk .of Switzerland all -- 20 Lon. Char.Bkof Austral all 224 23 23 3 1 50 London and County 50 London' Joint Stock 100 London & Westm nster 20 60 100 Nat. Prov. of England . 35 -- 20 Do. new lO 50 National Bank ........ 25 20 New South Wa1e5...... all 391 0 20 Do. new 25 Orient. B. Corporation 20 Ottoman Bank .. . 100 Provincial of Ireland 10 Do. new 25 South Australia 25 Union of Australia 50 Union ot London 100 Unity Mutual.. ...... COLONIAL GOVERNMENT GECURITIES. 'an.Gov. 6 p.c.Ja. & J uly 100 115 117 Do. 6p. cent. 188 1 100 - - Do. 6p. cent. 1881 100 - - Do. 6p. cent. 1882 100 - - Do. 6p. c. Feb. & Aug. 100 110 112 Do. 6p. c. Mar. & Sept. 100 110 112 i Do. 5 per cent lOO 1021 1024 1021 I Do. Scrip 42 N.B.Gov. 6 p.c. 3 a.&July 100 108 109 1081 Do. 6p. c. Ap. & Oct 100 N. S. W. Gov. sp. c., 1866 100 100 101 Do. sp. c., 1871 to 1876 100 100 101 100; Do. 5 p.c.,1888 &upwds 100 100 101 1001 Nova Scotia Gov. 6p. c. sterling, 1875 lOO 1081 1091 1091 1 S.Aus.Gt. 6 p.c.1878 & up. 100 110 112 'Vic. Gov. 6 p.c. Ja.&,Tuly 100 I Do. do. 6 p.c. Ap.&Oct. 100 1071 108. 1074 4 8 THE SUN, LONDON, WED N ESDAY EVENING, JUNE 20, 1860. carried into effect. It was one that he believed would have satisfied all reasonable Dissenters ; but the effect of that bill was to abandon the high ground taken up by Church men. (Hear.) Infidelity prevailed most in the urban parishes, and there, too, Dissenters were most numerous. It was, therefore, there that the Church required all the resources it could command, and yet in these urban parishes the most rev. prelate proposed to give up church rates, be cause theycould no longer be raised there. The bill which he (Lord Lyveden) now proposed had been introduced into their lordships' house in 1858, when it was rejected by a very large majority, but the noble earl opposite (Earl Derby) who was then in power, thought the subject was of such importance that he undertook that a bill should be intro duced by the Government. A bill was introduced by Mr. Walpole, which proposed that any one should be relieved from the obligation of paying church rates who chose to say that he was a conscientious Dissenter. The bill contained other provisions modifying the law of mortmain, and autho rising the rate to be levied upon the owner, instead of the occupier. But the compromise failed to obtain the sanction of the House of Commons, and the next step was the intro duction of Sir J. Trelawny's Bill, which was passing rapidly through the other house when their lordships adopted their usual course when the Commons were pressing an unpala table measure upon them, and 'appointed a committee to consider the subject. He found no fault with the proceed ings of that committee, but would only remark that, being appointed at the end of the session, the attendance was scanty and the evidence incomplete. Three witnesses were examined whose evidence produced great effect—Dr. Foster, Mr. Morley, and Mr. Osborne. The two first-named gen tlemen frankly avowed that the abolition of church rates was not their ultimate desire, but that they wished to de stroy the whole Church establishment. That avowal ought not to have caused much surprise, for it had repeatedly been made by Mr. Hume, Mr. Pellatt, and others in the House of Commons. It was, however, made a ground of argument against the abolition of church rates that those who chiefly advocated that proceeding were anxious to po still further. He did not think there was any force in that argument, because it had not been shown how, if church rates ware abolished, the position of the Dissenters to attack the Church would be strengthened. Ho believed it would be just the contrary, for the country could never be agitated upon a merely theoretical question. Only a real grievance such as church rates were could sustain agitation, and he thought that by yielding an unequivocal, uncertain right the position of the Church would be greatly strength ened. The committee also examined Mr. Osborne, a Wes leyan Methodist, who, sneaking individually, did not object to church rates, but said there were no means of ascertain ing the general sentiments of the body to which ho be longed. That opinion, however, was expressed in the 815 petitions that had been presented to Parliament from Wes leyan methodists in favour of the abolition of church rates. The evidence of the witnesses whom he had mentioned had a certain effect, and was, no doubt, one of the causes of the diminished majority in the other houss. But there was another taus, for the decrease in the majority. If it was desired to pass liberal measures through the House of Commons the first and last sessions of a Parliament were the most auspicious periods. In 1859, when fresh from the hustings, hon. gentlemen were ready to vote for the abolition of church rates, but in 1860 their fervour had somewhat abated. Probably in 1861, 2, or 3, as the case might be, they would again vote against church rates before reappearing upon the hustings. It was to be regretted that the noble duke who presided over the committee had not thought fit to introduce a bill founded on the report, or to have met the present bill by resolutions in accordance with that report. The principal recommendation in the report was that persons desirous of being exempted from the pay ment of church rates should give notice of their objections to the churchwardens, and such persons should not be per mitted to take part in any vestry called for the purpose of making or applying such rate. . There was no requirement of a religious or conscientious objection, but any ground of objection whatever was to exempt a man from the rate. Objections had been made to the voluntary principle that it would be humiliating to clergymen to require them to go round their parishes to beg subscriptions. But there would be just the same humiliation if the recommendation of the committee were carried out, for the clergyman would have to go round and invite persons not to object to the rate. A more complete voluntary system could not be conceived than the plan set forth by the committee. He had now mentioned the various compromises that had been sugzested upon this subject. It was clear that compensations, com promises, and substitutes had all been exhausted, and no thing was left but to deal boldly with the question. He hoped their lordships would not, because the majority in the other house was slightly diminished, back out of the pledges which they had heretofore given on this subject, or vote for the continuance of a law which they had admitted could not be maintained. A majority of nine was, he allowed, a small one, and the number was also ominous, but he trusted that this would not therefore be fatal to the suc cess of the bill. He believed the existence of church rates tended much more to the disadvantage of the Church than of Dissent, and he did not advance this opinion on his own authority. Mr. Gladstoae said " Now, I say, in the first place, that the state of the law of church rates is a very great grievance to the Church itself. In a multitude of parishes the church rate is con tested. If it is obtained among animosties and heartburn. ings, where it is so contested it inflicts the greatest evil, misfortune, and impediment on the Church than it confers benefit on it; and if the rate is lost what again happens? Why, that the Church is left entirely without support from the rate, and so far is put on the same footing as the fabrics belonging to other denominations of Christians; but only so far, because it is left to those denominations who are connected with other fabrics to associate themselves as a body of private individuals for the maintenance of their own fabrics, and to take into their own hands exclusively the management of the funds they may please to vote for such a purpose ; but that it is not competent for members of the Established Church to do. Take the case of a parish where the bulk of the ratepayers were indisposed to support these rates, but where a portion of them were disposed to do so. It is not competent for that part of the parishioners who are so disposed to constitute themselves into a body for the purpose of applying their means to that object, and it is beyond all doubt that if, notwithstanding these difficulties, gentlemen belonging to the Church of England choose to subscribe for the maintenance of their Church, the appli3a tion and disposal of the money they thus raise is not placed under their own control, but they are open to be run in upon. and to have the control of the application of their money taken out of their hands and pat into the hands of the very men who perhaps the week previous had voted against the levying of a church rate. That, I say, is a great grievance to the Church." This was, in point of fact, a great grievance to the Church, and it was a grievance which, as long as this impost re mained, it would be impossible to remedy. If, on the other hand, the rate were got rid of, a measure might be at once introduced and carried, enabling the Church to tax its own members, and no Dissenters could offer plausible objection to such a bill, or if they did they would be laughed out of Parliament. But on what ground were the conscientious objections of the Dissenters now disregarded? Could any thing be said against the Dissenting body on the ground of immorality or irreligion ? The names of Bunyan, Baxter, Lardner, and Robert Hall would rise to every one's lips in conjunction with the names of other men whom the Church would be to glad to receive into her bosom. He would not enter into any statistics to show the relative numbers of Dissenters and Churchmen in this country, or the exact number of petitions presented on one side or the other. He would even assume the truth of the calculation made by that very sanguine friend of the establishment, Dr. Hume, of Liverpool, that the members of the Church com prise 67 per cent, of the population. But were there nat in every town large numbers of Dissenters who were anxious to be relieved from this rate? Why was it that Parlia ment did not impose an education rate ? Because they thought that a compulsory impost would diminish the vo luntary subscriptions. The same principle applied in the present instance, and he would ask where religion had ever been advanced by compulsory levies ? Probably a Dissen ter would have no great cbjectim to contribute towards the repair of a structure which he venerated and an edifice ho admired ; and if the compulsory rate were abolished he be lieved the Dissenters would be most willing to subscribe towards such an object. Sir Morton Peto, for example, had subscribed £5OO towards the erection of a parish church at Plaistow, and this would be the case with many other Dissenters if the support of the Church edifices were left to depend on voluntary efforts. It was for the in.. terests of the Church itself, then, 'that the removal of this impost was most to be desired, and it was Dissent which gained most by its continuance. At all events, if the bill were not passed, care should be taken to lay down what were the legal charges to be defrayed out of a church rate. The Rev. Mr. Champneys said these charges comprised the repairs of the edifice, the washing of the surplice, and the cost of the communion wine. Now it wasonly natural that Dissenters should object to the two last items. Mr. Champ neys had stated that when he first succeeded to his present charge he found that the washing of the surplice cost 12 guineas, and the communion wine 18 guineas, there being only 16 communicants. In that case wine appeared to have been given to the churchwardens, clergyman, and other persons ; and was it surprising that, with such abuses, the Dissenters complained of paying church rates ? These were the grounds upon which he asked their lordships to pass this measure. He should prefer a substitute if one could be found, but a substitute had been looked for in vain, and the supporters of the bill therefore had been compelled to resort to entire abolition. It appeared to be hoped that the agita tion on this question would subside. That reminded him of the man in the play whose house was on fire, and who was proceeding to assist in extinguishing the fire, when he ex claimed, " A sudden thought strikes me. Perhaps it will i g t o s e o l out , t n o n f d i h t s e e l e t' ' t ' r e a N t eodw t t h h o i i s r a l o g r i d t a s h t i i o p n s w n o o u t l t d o n r e o l t a x g o ino t u h t o n f endeavours to make it subside by reasonable legislation. True it was that from various causes the majority had dimi nished in the other house, but none of the remarkable men who had given in their adhesion to the bill failed to support it still. It should be steadily borne in mind that the chief supporters of the measure in the other house were not Dis senters, whose wish it might be to destroy the establishment —churchmen were its leading advocates. (Hear.) The majority comprised seven Cabinet Ministers, one ex- Premier, and the present Prime Minister, of whom it would not be said by the right rev, bench that he was an unworthy son of the Church, or that his recent appointments to the episcopal bench had been prejudicial to the establishment. (Laughter.) Among other members in that majority he recognises the rising hopes of the country, Who stood higher in public esteem IMPERIAL .PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS—(YESTERDAY.) The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack at five o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The Walchet Harbour, the Border Counties, and North British Railway Bills were read a second time. The Upper Mersey Dues and the London and Blackwall Railway Bills were read a third time and passed. CHURCH RATES. The Duke cf SOMERSET presented petitions in favour of the abolition of church-rates. Earl DE GREY and Lord TAUNTON presented similar petitions. ' The Earl of DERBY presented petitions from the Uni versity of Ox ford and places in Lancashire against the abolition of church-rates. Viscount DUNGANNON presented similar petitions. The Duke of MARLBOROUGH presented similar peti tions. The Bishop of LONDON presented 50 petitions with a similar prayer. A great number of petitions, both for and against the abolition, were presented by Earl Granville, the Duke of Rutland, Lord Stanley of Alderley, Earl Nelson, Lord Lyvedon, Lord Teynham, the Earl of Shrewsbury, aad Lord Red esd ale. Lord LYVEDEN, in rising to move the second reading of the Church -rates Abolition Bill, said that he must crave more than a usual portion of their lordships' indulgence. He was aware he should be obliged in the discharge of the duty he had undertaken to utter opinions adverse to those of many noble lords, and, fearing that he might say some thing uncongenial to their lordships' tastes, he had cause to apprehend that they might visit upon the cause the awk wardness of the advocate. When the noble duke below him brought this subject forward in 1858, the noble earl opposite (the Earl of Derby) said he should like to see the peer who would be bold enough to undertake the task he had now risen to perform. But so far from being a reproach to him that he now came forward to declare his opinions, it would be rather a reproach to him if he failed to advocate an object dear to those with whom during 30 years of public life he had acted, and in whom he had placed unlimited confi dence. He could not also but remember the ups and downs that had befallen all political questions in the present ge neration. A few years before the passing of the Reform Bill of 1832 it was impossible to excite public interest in the sub ject of reform, and Parliament refused to transfer the fran chise from East Retford to Birmingham. The Uovernment of Lord Melbourne were expelled from office in 1841 for proposing a fixed duty on corn, and in 1846 the corn laws were swept away from the statute book. The conduct of Parliament upon the admission of the Jews was even more analogous to the present case. In 1841 the Jewish Civil Disabilities Removal Bill was introduced and thrown out. In 1848 the second reading was carried in the other house by a majority of 70. In 1851 the bill was read a second time by a majority of 25. It was re-introduced in 1853, and in 1853 the bill was again brought up again to their lordships' house. The door was then left a-jar by their lordships by which the Jews were allowed to gain admis sion into the other house. The present bill might also meet with repeated rejections, for the admission of the Jews was not only a question uffeeting the Church of England, but even the ark of Christianity itself was said to be in peril. The result of admitting the Jews had been that four or five gentlemen of undoubted character and position had taken their seats in the other house. Yet the Church was not in danger from their presence, and the ark of Chris tianity was still carried about in safety. This led him to hope that at some time or other something might be done to relieve Dissenters from the payment of church rates. It might be said of him that in coming forward to propose this bill, he was an enemy of the Church. He could assure their lordships that by early education and mature conviction he was a sincere friend to a Church establishment, and that in asking their lordships to agree to this bill he was by no means the enemy of the Church, but was really promoting its continuance and popularity. (Hear.) The law, as it had been declared by the highest legal authorities and by the report of the committee, declared that the payment of church rates was a legal obligation, but that it was supported by no legal remedy. This was not a right of any great value. He could understand either a moral, religious, or pecuniary obligation. But a legal obligation, without a legal remedy, puzzled him, and he should like to know what such a right would fetch in the market. At the first blush it might not seem clear why a church rate should not be levied as well as a poor rate or a highway rate. But the difference had been well stated by Mr. Sotheron-Esteourt, the late Home Secre tary, in his evidence before the committee, to consist in the religious element. No man's religion led him to assert that no roads should be made, but there were numbers of persons who said that there ought to be no compulsory rate for the church. The legal duty of asking for the rate might be die • charged by the churchwardens and the clergyman, but no moving power existed of compelling a church rate to be made. He would not go into the antiquarian branch of this sub ject, which had been fully expounded by one of the wit nesses examined before the committee. He would, therefore, . only remark that if the tax were obnox'ous and odious, it was of very little consequence whether it existed in the time of Alfred the Great or Edward the Confessor, when the rate was perhaps paid willingly, and when there were no Dissenters. Their lordships were now asked to deal with an acknowledged evil. Lawyers, divines, statesmen, and politicians had, for the last 20 years, agreed in declaring that church-rates were a great and crying evil, and that matters could not long remain in their existing state. Looking back to the course of legislation during the last half century, it was painful to think how little had been yielded to reason, and how much to fear. In 1829, when he first entered Par liament, the claims of the Roman Catholics had just been yielded to the fear of Irish insurrection. The Reform Bill was granted from the fear of English commotion. The Corn Laws were repealed from the fear of a famine in Ireland. lie did not mention these facts by way of menace. Their lordships might reject this bill without any fear of Birming- ham Unions and marchings to London. But its rejection would cause heart-burnings and hatred, the odium theolo gicum, animosities in parishes and brawlings in church. Compromises on this question had been proposed by such men as Lord Althorp and Mr. 'Walpole ; and if any two men were ever formed by nature to carry out a compromise they were the men, for they were friends of the Church, and enemies to no class, but both completely failed. Lord Al thorp proposed to take £250,000 out of £550,000 which formed the church rates, and put it on the land-tax, leaving the rest to be raised in the old way; but his proposal was not accepted either by Churchmen or Dissenters, and it fell to the ground. If they compared the two proposals of Lord Althorp and Mr. Walpole together, they would see how much the state of the cass hal altered. Lord Althorp stated the amount of church rates at £550,000, whereas Mr. Wal pole stated the amount to have fallen to £250,000, while the voluntary subscriptions were £260,000. So that while these was a great falling off in the church rates, the voluntary rate raised to supply the deficiency had risen to £260,000. (Hear, hear.) The next compromise attempted to which ho would refer was that of Sir J. Easthope, who proposed to throw the maintenance of the fabric of the church on the pew rents. He wished to call their lordships' attention par ticularly to this proposal, because it was opposed by the members of the Church of England, on the ground that the Church of England was the church of the poor man, and that pew rents would interfere with his privilege. That was, no doubt, a beautiful theory, but was it a matter of fact? The same thing was said of the law as they were ac customed, to read in Blackstone and other writers on the constitution; and it reminded him of the saying of Horne Tooke, that " so was the Leaden Tavern if they paid for it." (Hear, and a laugh.) On the subject of the Church being open to the poor without pew rents, he would refer to the report of the committee on religious destitution. In that report special reference was made to three of the principal churches at the West-end of the metropolis ; St. James's, St. George's, Hanover-square, and the parish church of St. Marylebeno. In St. James's the report stated the seats were all let, producing a rental of £1,400 a-year, though there was no legal authority to raise more than £3O per annum by pew rents. The same state of things existed in the other two churches ; and he might observe that it was so in all the great towns of England, No doubt there were what were called free seats, but he believed these were occupied by any but the poor. He asked their lordships if they ever saw at church in any large town more than one or t h w ea o r. r T rson h s o ssse- whho cooulodecued the be strictly called poor ? (Hear, free seats were well dressed persons, who could easily afford to pay 6d. or Is. for the accommodation if they chose to do so. That was not making the Church of England the church of the poor. He believed it was the original intention of the Church of England to do so, but it was not acted upon, and he must say that nowhere had the principle been carried out, except among the Roman Catholics. In the churches abroad it was a common thing to see the poor and the rich ad mitted together—the beggar and the noble worshipping side by side. (Hear, hear.) The transference of the church rates to pew rents was one mode of settling this question which had been proposed. He did not, however, recom mend it now, and he only mentioned it to show that there were other means besid es the p r esent of raising the funds necessary for the maintenance and repair of churches. There were various other plans which had been introduced by persons of different religious persuasons, and by men of all political opinions ; but every one of them had failed That being the case, it appeared to him hopeless to endea vour to substitute anything in the place of the existing church rates. (Hear, hear.) In 1855 there appeared as a reformer of church rates the most eminent individual who had ever acted in that capacity. He meant the most rev. prelate below him (the Archbishop of Canterbury.) He in troduced a Church Rate Bill in that year, and his only rea son for not proceeding with it was that he was given to understand such a bill could not originate in their lordships' house. That bill aimed at a compromise ; but it was not a measure founded entirely on the principles of the Church of England, though it cont contained the most practi ca l propo sal ever made on the question. It was that after the rejec tion of a church rate twice by a parish it should cease for ever—(hear, hear) —and he made a distinction that had never been proposed before. The most rev. p re l a t e pro posed to exempt all the metropolitan and urban parishes, and to leave church rates to be collected exclusively in the rural parishes. (Hear.) He could not conceive a more I practical scheme, and he much regretted that it was not than Lord Stanley ? His lordship was for the abolition of church-rates, and so were Lord Ashley, Lord Grosvenor, and the Marquis of Hartington. (A laugh.) Were those enemies of the establishment, or were theynot as sincere friends to the Church as any or their lordships could be ? (Hear, hear.) He trusted that if he had not been able to carry conviction to their lordships' mind he had said nothing calculated to offend their religious feelings. Before he sat down, perhaps he might be allowed to address one word in the way of re monstrance to the right rev. bench. If he were addressing an assembly of attorneys who strained to the utmost every possible technicality of the law, he would deserve to be laughed at if he engaged in my Quixotic endeavour to induce them to give up any right, however uncertain, for the sake of peace and good will. (Laughter.) Buthe was now speaking to men who knew there was no exercise of the Christian virtues equal to that of self-sacrifice, and who had for the benefit of the Church and the advancement of religion con sented to be shorn of some portion of their episcopal revenues. He entreated them, then, not to raise their hands to strike their Dissenting brethren; but, in the words of Mr. Secretary Stanley in 1834, to consider whether the in terests of the Church were advanced by the desecration of the house of God by squabbles about church rates; or, in the words of Sir R Peel, whether social harmony should be allowed to be interrupted by these discussions. (Hear.) In the sincere and solemn conviction that the present mea sure would tend to make the Church more popular and to promote the interests of religion itself, he moved the second reading of the bill. (Hear.) The Duke of MARLBOROUGH said that with regard to the first ground on which the noble lord had based his motion—the ground, namely, that all attempts at a com promise on this question had failed—he had to remark that those attempts failed because the Dissenters expressed a clear and positive determination to stop short of nothing less than the entire abolition of church rates. The second ground on which the noble lord urged his motion was that the church rate was a bone of contention, and that it tended to promote and keep alive the odium theologicum. But, on the other hand, he would ask the noble lord to consider what must be the feeling of the members of the Established Church when they saw these persistent attempts of the Dissenters to deprive the Church of its revenues, and all attempts at compromise rejected because they were the ad vocates of the voluntary principle. The noble lord in the course of his speech had giver utterance to many fallacies. He told them that church rates were a legal obligation without a legal remedy for their enforcement. But why was the sta'e of the law such that there was a legal obligation without a legal remedy ? There used to be a legal remedy in the ecclesiastical courts, when men's minds and consciences quailed before the censures of those courts. It was true that this was no longer the case ; but the noble lord, if he were logical in his reasoning, instead of asking for the abolition of church rates, should have proposed to find some other remedy or substitute. The noble lord endeavoured to lead the house to suppose that the Wesleyan Methodists, who amounted to one. half the Dissenting community in England were in favour of his measure, whereas the fact was that the Wesleyan Conference never sanctioned this agitation. The noble lord had said that the amount of church rate col lected had fallen, and he argued from that fact that the rate had fallen in the general sympathies of the people. But the cause of that diminution was to be found in the opposition to the rate, and the disposition of the church to make compro mises, and not to ask for more than was absolutely required for the repair of the church fabric. The noble lord had com mitted a great error in putting this question on the same grounds with the important questions of reform, the corn laws, and Jewish disabilities. With regard to reform there was an acknowledged evil, an acknswledged necessity ; and it was carried repeatedly by increasing majorities. The same with regard to the cam laws ; the famine in Ireland was a sufficient reason why the corn laws should then have been repealed. The question of Jewish disabilities was one which peculiarly affected the other house, and it was not likely that their lordships would long oppose the wish of that house. In a case where the interests of religion were concerned there was an instance in which their lordships had made a stand, and had refused to pass a measure for the appropriation of Irish ecclesiastical property. He hoped that they would now pursue the same course. He would ask, who were really in favour of this measure ? Was the noble lord himself really anxious that it should pass ? If so, why was it that, though the bill was brought up from the Commons on the 13th of April, he di I not give notice to move the second reading till 24 days afterwards ? The Church of England was not in favour of the measure. The noble lord had mentioned some attached members of the Church in the other house who were in favour of it, but no one would say that they represented the Church at large. The noble lord himself had described members of the other house as apt to be swayed more by the wishes of their constituents than by ' their consciences, especially as a dissolution approached. (Hear, hear.) Nor could much weight be attached to the opinions of members of the church in those places where rates had been refused. The right rev. prelates must be allowed to be more accurate representatives of,the church than those to whom the noble lord had referred. As to the country being in favour of the bill, it was only neces sary to look at the retitions that had been presented. When the bll was read a second time in the other house, on the Bth February, only 12 petitions with 407 signatures had been presented in its favour. It passed the second reading by a very diminished majority. Last session it was up wards of 70. In the intervening period the inquiry by their lordships' committee had produced a great result; the evidence had been made widely known; it had removed the mistaken impressions of many, and had shown that the measure would be fatal to ,the institutions of the Church. The majority in this session diminished from upwards of 70 to 29. That was a significant fact for the supporters of the measure. They felt that they must bo up and doing, and they resorted to a settled organisation for working up peti tions and obtaining signatures. The vast number Fent up in a short time showed that there had been some such spasmodic effort, and was no proof of the settled convic tion of the country. By the the 28th of March, the bill having been read a second time on the Bth of February, there had been presented 4,972 petitions, with 546,000 signatures. That was the result of the organisation of the Society for the Liberation of Religion from State Control, and was no test of the feeling of the country. But was the Government itself in favour of the passing of this measure of abolition? Lord Palmerston, in 1855, speaking on a similar measure, had said that he certainly could not bring himself to think the measure was likely to receive the sanction of both branches of the legislature ; nor did he think that the support of the fabrics of the church was sufficiently pro vided for thereby. He added that he would not support the measure for the sake of any momentary popularity out of doors ; a person in his position ought not to support such a measure unless he felt that it was demanded by the inte rests of the country at large. Different measures of com promise had been alluded to, which it was not necessary then to discuss ; the question now before the house was one simply of abolition, pure and total. The question was, had any case been made out for absolute abolition ? (Hear, hear.) He contended that no such ease had been shown. Such a measure would be a violation of one of the most essential charters of English liberty—namely, Magna Charts itself, which contained these words : " That the Church of Eng land shall be free, and have all her whole rights and lil er ties inviolable." If this was not one of the rights of the Church of England, perhaps the noble lord would inform them what was. The recent decisions of their lordships' house had materially altered the views of the country on this question. Those decisions had settled the right of the vestry to levy a rate ; and whether the rate was granted or refused, the same right inhered in thek-Church. Dr. Lush ington stated in his evidence that in consequence of those decisions disputes on church rates had been very great y diminished within the last seven years; and, in fact, within the last few years, scarcely any such disputes had been brought before the courts. He (the noble duke) denied that this measure was necessary for the sake of peace. There was no question of peace ; disputes were materially lessen ing. They might abolish municipal elections for the sake of peace, or elections made at any public meeting whatever. (Hear, hear.) But the bill was recommended on another ground, because its supporters were unable to find a substitute for church rates, or to suggest a compro mise. Because they were unable to amend the law they would destroy it. This was like the conduct of the physician who, having a very difficult case to treat, which baffled all his skill, gave directions on leaving the house to put an end to the sufferings of his patient by a very sum mary process. If the parishioners wished to oppose a rate they could do so now in vestry. The noble lord had talked of churchmen staying their uplifted hand, and not striking their dissenting brethren. But their dissenting brethren were not by any means defenceless ; they had useful little tracts and manuals placed in their hands, whereby they were taught how to defeat a rate, and with such aid their advisers told them that it was almost impossible to levy a legal rate. (Hear, hear.) Much stress had been laid on the sacred principle of voluntaryism. The noble lord said " destroy church rates, and you will increase voluntaryism tenfold ; the pockets of Churchmen will be opened ; their Christian sympathies will be enlarged ; and contributions will flow in from every quarter for the purposes of the Church." But were - there no contributions now flowing in for those purposes P Did not the Church of England at present rest on a voluntary bas is to a far gre ater extent than any other religious body in this country ? Look at the efforts for building churches. The Incorporated Society had made grants, in 1858, to the amount of £13,000, which were met by local contributions of £175,000. In 1859, the society had made grants of £17,000, to meet local funds of £195,000; and in 1860, grants of £22,000, to meet local funds of £240,000. (Hear, hear, from the Government side.) He presumed the meaning of that cheer was, that as so much had been done, more might be done. He would prove that the contrary would be the case. The last straw broke the camel's back; and they could not, year by year, rely upon voluntary effort to raise such an amount as was now de rived from church rates. Look at what the Church of England was doing in education. In 1854, the grants of the Privy Council to meet corresponding contributions by the Church of England were £209,000 ; while the grants to all the Dissenting denominations in the country were only £116,000. In the two following years the figures stood thus: To the Church. To Dissenters. 18 55 £240,000 ..........£ 129,000 1856 268,000 .......... 155,000 The Church was doing its work well ; its members were not reposing on their past efforts; and when the argument was used that Voluntaryism was equally available to tha Church as to the Dissenters, the answer was that the Church was as as much a Voluntary institution as any one Dissenting sect in the country. But there was one great difference between the Dissenters and the Church. Dis senting chapels were very small buildings ; the buildings oonnected with the Established Church were large and . expensive. Whenever a church was consecrated, it was set apart, solemnly dedicated, perpetually and irrevocably ; to the service of God. Not so with Dissenting chapels ; they moved from place to place. If a congregation failed, the chapel was shut up, sold, or disposed of. Dr. Hume men tioned the case of nine chapels in Liverpool which had oc cupied 26 different sites within his knowledge. Tbea the Church :of England was essentially the church for the poor man. The sustentation of the church could not be rested on pew rents, for in many parishes the poor were the sole occupants, and they had not the means of paying. Those poor congregations had in many instances been called into existence by large manufactories, the owners of which did not live in the parish, but had trans ferred their residence to more salubrious and agreeable localities. They subscribed to charities, schools, and per haps churches in their own neighbourhood ; bat where there was no tax imposed by law, they would not feel them selves called upon to contribute to the expense of divine worship for their workpeople. This was p_ owed by the evi dence of the Rev. W. Chsmpneys and Dr. Hume. r. Miller, of Birmingham, stated that the restoration of the spire of his church bad cost upwards of £7,000. That had been raised by subscription, because he was a very popular minister. But the ministers of the Church were not ap pointed by the people; the wishes of the congregations were not.consulted in the selection of ministers; therefore it was leaning on a broken reed to trust to the popularity of ministers for the support of the church. (Hear.) The case of the Rev. Mr. Yorke, of Birmingham, was one in point. He stated that the efforts he was obliged to make for the restoration of his church, at a cost of several thousand pounds, became so painful to his parishioners, that he was regarded by them as a nuisance, and his influence in the parish was destroyed. He could go much further into the effects of abolishing church rates in parishes. Their lord ships had evidence to show that a diminution of poor rates was actually attributible to the voluntary contribution made for the relief of the sick and poor in his parish. He • had his district visiting societies, which were supported by voluntary contributions. But once put another burden upon the voluntary contributions of churchmen, and these funds would suffer, and in a parish where church rates were abolished and the support of the church left to volun tary contributions, these rates and burdens would again arise in a more onerous form. He must advert to the question which had been raised by the noble lord in regard to the special nature of the evidence which had been adduced to their lordships' committee as re garded the ulterior objects of those persona who had united in the endeavour to carry a bill for the aboition of church rates. He remembered that he mentioned some two years ago their system and objects in that house. He stated that there were ulterior objects in the minds of certain per sons with regard to the abolition of church rates, and he was met by a reply from the noble lord opposite—if his me mory served him right—that he did not believe any one en tertained those views ; but that church rates were to be got rid of merely as a question of funds. But Lord J. Russell, in the year 1851, saw a little further. He said we had an established church; we had an hereditary aristocracy; we had an hereditary monarchy ; that all these things stood together, and his opinion was that they would fall together. He must therefore oppose this bill, as tending to subvert one of the great institutions of the country. He (the Duke of Marlborough) would advert to what had been stated to be the Parliamentary action of these gentlemen. Dr. Foster was asked to state generally what were his oljections to church rates. He said, in reply, that perhaps he had better preface that by saying, he did not encourage the abolition of church rates any further than by assisting those who came to him for advice, and by directing the conduct of the Par liamentary management. It appeared that these gentlemen had a Parliamentary committee, of whom Dr. Foster was chairman. Their object was to promote the carrying of what they termed " our bill." Part of their system was to act upon the constituencies ; and Mr. Morley, a member of the society, said that there was a constituent part of every repre sentative body who had in view as an ulterior measure the entire secularisation of church property. The society had corresponded with every constituency in the country, and there was not only a degree of compulsion which they could bring to bear upon noisy demagogues, but there was also a course of action which candidates understood perfectly well. By these means, in a space of eight weeks, they were enabled to prepare 4,000 petitions, containing half a million of signatures, and get them presented to the other house of Parliament, nor ould they rest con tented so long as a single broad gcre was left to the possessions of the Church of England, or a single com muted tithe given to the support of her clergy. He had. already called upon their lordships to observe that there was no suggestion here whether there was any other plan which might be proposed for the settlement of the difficulty. Speaking for himself, he might say he desired nothing but a fair, equitable, and just settlement of the question, and no exertion should be wanting on his part if he could see his way to any satisfactory solution. At the same time with respect to the just and equitable view of the case, their lordships' sense of justice would be too accurate to allow them to believe that the arguments put forth by the noble lord opposite would satisfy the demands of justice, or even sound policy, upon this question. Their lordships knew that this was an ancient tax, involvingancient-rights,which were of the highest importance to the interests of the clergy, and to the interests of the poor who were committed to their charge. He had pointed already to the extent of the orga nisation of those whose avowed object it was to promote the bill for the abolition of church rates ; and not only that, but also to bring about the secularisation of the entire mass of the p• operty of the Church, which was subservient to the benefit of the poor, and to the Church of the people of this land. Their lordship shad these things in evidence, and they would therefore conclude it to be their wisest policy to accept no compromise whatever. They would not, be be lieved, consider it consistent with fairness, wisdom, justice, sound policy, or even with religious duty itself, to pass the second reading of tlais bill. He therefore begged to move that it be read a second time that day three months. Lord WENSLEYDALE said he wished to detain their lordships a few minutes only whilst he endeavoured to give a more correct statement of the existing state of Ole law with regard to church rates than had been presented to their lordships. It was an error, which as widely entertained by the people of this country, to suppose that a majority of the parishioners in vestry assembled had a right to say whether there should be a church rate or not. That was a complete mistake : the law had not been so laid down in the celebrated Braintree case. Every parish was undoubt edly under a legal obligation to provide a church rate. The only question was as to the mode of carrying that obliga tion into effect. One of these modes was by making a bye- law, in order to make which it was necessary that a majo rity of the parishioners in vestry assembled should consent. At the same time the obligation to make a church rate was considered to be a spiritual duty, and its enforcement was left to the operation of the spiritual court. The penalty provided by the ecclesiastical court for not making a church rate was to put the parish under an interdict, a remedy which of late years was virtually impracticable. What their lordships decided in the Braintree case was, first, that it was not possible for the churchwardens of a parish to make a rate in the absence of the parishioners; and secondly, that a majority of the parishioners in vestry assembled could make a rate which was binding on the minority of the ratepayers of the parish. The omission to make a rate was nevertheless punishable by ecclesiastical censure to this day. It was an error to suppose that the majority of the parish in vestry assembled had a right to decide whether or not they were legally bound to make a church rate. Earl DE GREY and RIPON said he was surprised to find that the noble duke, instead of discussing the various compromises which had been proposed by himself, as ap peared by the report upon their lordships' table, had rested his argument upon the principle which led directly to the maintenance of church rates as they now existed. The noble duke did not speak of a compromise, except in a single instance. But he distinctly made clear throughout the whole of his speech that what he wished to be done was, that the law should remain as it now was. The noble duke had gone as far back as Magna Charta, and had said that if church rates were to be abolished, it would be a violation of Magna Charta ; because Magna Charta declared that the Church of England should retain all the rights and privileges it possessed at present. If that were so ho was a fraid that and the great charter had already been frequently violated, a . d B e d u tt then th hloen shouldlist fhe which alarmh hadepdr o i o f e t d h o i d s v i t i . o 1 a ( t h i i o e n a r, wereea r , said the noble duke, as a the ntoibglhettradle(gaVlednustlye3; but there (Wensleydale) had also said—" You have, is no remedy by which you can enforce that duty " 44 Tnie, „ said the noble duke, " but there was a time when the viola• tion of this duty could be actively prevented, in the hal cyon days of ecclesiastical jurisdiction." But he (Earl de Grey) thought their lordships must not go back to the days of the great charter, or even to the days when ecclesiastical jurisdiction prevailed. They must look at the question as it stood at the present mupomtoent, the a p n r d es N e v u i t th yea re r fe . reference to all that had taken place and learned lord had given a statement of the law of the case, which he (Earl de Grey) would not venture to dis pute, but he was quite content to take the view given in the r. port upon their lordships' table, namely, that a church rate could only be made assessable upon the parish by a majority of the parishoners ; that there was no remedy to enforce its imposition at common law, whilst, as the noble duke admitted, penalties against a non-ratepaying parish could not be enforced in the ecclesiastical courts. The noble duke appealed to Magna Charta, and seemed to think there was no reason at all why any person should be relieved from the payment of church rates. He did not mean to say that the noble duke would not be willing, as a measure of justice, to relieve those who were not members of the church from this payment, but he did not seem to think it was any grievance, or that there was any substantial ground for the active agitation which had been carried on by the Society for the Liberation of Religion from Church Control. But whilst this society was a recent one, the question had been in agitation fully 30 years ago. k There had t een In numerous 1834 a attempts to settle it by way of a compromise. bill was brought in by which it was provided that church rates should wholly cease and determine. The noble duke