The Sun. — London, England, 1859-10-14 00:00:00

NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE PROMOTION OF SOCIAL SCIENCE. BRADFORD, THURSDAY. The attendance to-day in St. George's Hall was much the same as yesterday, when Mr. M. Milnes delivered an address on Punishment and Reforma tion. There were again to-day a number of excur sions to places in the neighbourhood. Yesterday afternooa the attendance at the sections was gener ally speaking large, and great interest was mani fested in some of the papers and discussions. The following is an outline of what took place in the various departments : JURISPRUDENCE. President—Vice-Chancellor Sir W. P. Wood. Some discussion took place on the recent reforms in the Court of Chancery, arising out of a paper read the day before by Mr. Daniell, Q.C. Vice-Chancellor Sir W. P. WOOD read a paper on Charitable Trusts. The object of the paper was, first, to call attention to the present policy of the law on this subject ; secondly, to the inconsistency and incompleteness of that policy ; and thirdly, to the necessity for revi sions. The law, he said, al lowed a testator to select the object of his charity at his own discretion, instead of confining him to an existing life or lives, and 20 years afterwards, as in the case of other bequests. This led to absurd and preposterous bequests, some of which the writer no ticed. One, for example, was that of a testator who divided his estate into two portions, one to be given to the 15 prettiest young women in the parish, and who were most constant in their attendance at church, and the other to the spinsters of 50 years of age possessing the same qualifications. (Laughter.) The chief remedy he pointed out for preventing such absurdities was to subject contributions of a chari table nature to the control of the Charitable Com missioners, under certain conditions. The discussion on the paper was adjourned. Mr. HASTINGS, the secretary, brought forward the report of the committee on mercantile legisla tion, appointed at Liverpool. Several subjects had occupied the attention of the committee, the most important being the subject of bankruptcy. He re ferred to the bill on the subject approved by the association, and introduced to Parliament by Lord J. Russell. The committee found that though the bill was approved by the chambers of commerce and trade protection societies generally throughout the country, it had not met with the same favour with many eminent merchants in London. A con ference had been held with those gentlemen, when Mr. Morley and others objected to the mode of ap pointing creditors assignees in the bill, and sug gested that the appointment should be in the hands of three creditors, called inspectors, to be named by the whole body of creditors. It was also suggested that the certificates of bankrupts should be indorsed with some statement of their character and conduct and the reason of their insolvency. A third sug gestion was, that a trader in difficulties might be allowed to apply to a commissioner in chambers, on being pressed by certain creditors, in order to pre vent the evil arising of preference to creditors. These alterations had been adopted and introduced into the bill, and thus the co-operation of the Lon don gentlemen had been secured. The subject of re gistration of partnerships, and also of the incorpo ration of chambers of commerce, had received the attention of the committee, and the appointment of a committee was suggested to acquire information on the subject of registering partnerships. Mr. F FRY brought before the section a paper on the provisions of the Bankruptcy Bill which had been introduced to Pliament under the auspices of the association, whi ar ch had been drawn up by himself and Mr. F. Bristoe Mr. W. S. GIBSON, a registrar of the Newcastle Court of Bankruptcy, forwarded a paper on " Laws affecting Debtors and Creditors, and the Amend ment of the Law of Bankruptcy," which was read, in his absence, by Mr. Ryland. The paper sug gested the following alterations in the bankruptcy law :—First, to subject all cases of insolvency to judicial control, and to abolish voluntary deeds and private arrangements ; secondly, to revise the laws of bankruptcy and give greater facilities for the punishment of fraud; thirdly, to modify the classi fication of certificates ; fourthly, to reduce the ex pense of bankruptcy proceedings, by charging the salaries and compensations as annuities on the Con solidated Fund ; fifthly, to pay official assignees partly by salary and partly by fees ; sixthly, to alter the procedure of the court as far as regards the publicity of business ; seventhly, to revive the sub-division Court of Commission as a court of ap peal on questions of certificate ; and lastly, to in vest each commissioner with the power of a County Court judge to enforce payment of debts. Mr. RAYNER, of Huddersfield, supported Mr. Fry's Bill. Mr. M. Ross, of Manchester, urged the propriety of a law to prevent bankrupts absconding- to Scot land or Ireland, and thus escaping from their Eng lish creditors. After some conversation the subject was adjourned. EDUCATION. President, Mr. C. B. Adderley, M.P. A paper on " Some bearings that existing cir cumstances, and particularly the period of time available for education respectively in different classes, ought to have on our educational aims." Among other suggestions the writer proposed cer tain alterations in the length of time required for a University education, in order to induce the mid dle classes more largely to avail themselves of the advantages offered by the Universities. The Rev. H. LATHAM read a paper " On the esta blishment in Cambridge of a school of Practical Science." He urged that Cambridge possessed peculiar facilities for the establishment of such a school. There should be professors to give instru , :- tion in chemistry, mineralogy, civil engineering, practical surveying, &c. ; that suitable workshops, mechanical and philosophical instruments, &c., should be provided, and that the students who passed a successful examination should be distin guished with the degree of A.P.S., Associate in Practical Science. PUBLIC HEALTH. In this department Mr. J. S. HAMMACK read a paper on " The relation between density of Popu lation and the mortality from Consumption." Con• sumption increased with the density of population. In suburban situations there was less mortality than in the crowded town districts ; and the large town districts showed a larger death-rate from con sumption than thinly populated districts. The in creased mortality arose from impure air—dwellings and workshops being generally overcrowded. The remedial measures he proposed were better venti lated houses, public parks, &c. If these - measures were adopted tubercular disease, which caused the loss of 100,000 lives annually in England, would in a great measure be removed. In section B, Miss JESSIE PARKES read a paper on the market for educated female labour. An other by Miss Jessie Boucherette, on the industrial employment of women, was read by Mr. Wilson. The two ladies lamented , the present condition of educated women in regard to employment, and urged the claims of governesses, &c., on society. BRADFORD MECHANICS' INSTITUTE. Last night a meeting took place in St. George's hall, in connection with the Mechanics' Institute of Bradford, Lord Brougham in the chair, when the prizes given by that institution and by the school of arts were awarded to the successful members. The hall was crowded in every part, a very large portion of the audience consisting of the working classes and their families. It was arranged also that at this meeting the prizes offered by Mr. John Cassell, the publisher, for the best written papers by working men, or the wives and daughters of working men, upon the subjects of Social Science, should be given to the successful competitors. The Secretary of the Bradford Mechanici' Insti tute having given some account of its origin and progress, Lord BROUGHAM, after expressing the gratification which he felt in addressing so large a meeting, in cluding so great a proportion of the working classes, said he had no conception before his arrival in Brad ford of the flourishing state of its Mechanics' Insti tution. It appeared to stand among the very first in paint of success. In every one particular since its formation there had been an increase—in mem bers, in books, in attendance on the library, and in the character of the books for which there was a demand. (Hear, hear.) But that which chiefly delighted him was the groat proportion of working men who took an interest in the institution, the working men connected with it amounting to two thirds of the whole members. This was a satisfac tory circumstance, for it was always feared that mechanics' institutions, though established for the working classes, would prove more beneficial t' other classes than to them, and this had generally turned out to be the case. Well and rightly had the working men of Bradford judged in consider ing that this institution was for their highest in terests, and he hoped they would go a step fur ther than they had yet gone, and appoint committees to canvass their fellow-workmen to join the institution. (Cheers.) In so doing they would be able to tell them that this was one of the best modes of elevating them in the scale of society. It was by these means that many great men had risen from the humblest beginnings. What e Ch h e e e di rs e .) d, did they think was a lived He to see working i o c f , who, b e for e befor ( the whole face of the world altered by his prodi gious inventions of various kinds en , particularly his ine—Aeers i mproveme nt of the steam g ) everything besides realising an =men se fmen ortunethat could also tell their fellow working 4- 11 em which raised their influence tended to give political power, for— " Past experience tells on every soil That he who thinks most governs those who toil." (Cheers.) And when he said " governs," he di.a not allude to the upper classes or to the middle ,1 classes only, for all those persons who were given to thought and reflection were those who governed the persons who merely . toiled. (Cheers.) It st (as satis factory to find that the issue of books from the library was increasing year by year, but it was (still mcire satisfactory to know that the books issued were be coming year by year of a superior sort, indicating an improved state of mind and a more improved taste on the part of the readers. (Hear, hear.) He had ever been in favour of a large proportion of working men being on the committee of manage ment of these institutions, and he thought that reading-rooms and the like in connexion with mechanics' institutions should be entirely managed by working men. The opportunity and the habit of reading in the evenings preserved them from slumbering after their day's labour, or from drink ing, and saved to them their time, their money, and their health. (Cheers.) Time was the money of the working man ; and, as the proverb was, " Take care of the pence and the shillings and the pounds will take care of themselves ;" so, as to the work ing man's currency, which was his time, it might be said, " Take care of the minutes and the hours will take care of themselves." (Cheers.) The noble lord then stated that, after the Mechanics' Institution prizes had been awarded, those given by Mr. Cassell would be distri buted to the successful competitors for the prize essays. It was gratifying to him to say that, as one of the judges, having looked through the essays forwarded—nine-tenths of them written by work ing men—though in some of them the grammar, and in others the spelling and handwriting, were rather indifferent, yet that the whole contained an amount of ability and information that was highly creditable, while many were highly distinguished for talent and information. (Cheers.) The prizes were then awarded, several of those given by Mr. Cassell having been gained by women, the wives or daughters of working men. Mr. CASSELL having explained the circumstances under which the prizes were offered, The Earl of SHAFTESBURY rose, and was loudly cheered. If he looked at Mechanics' Institutions (observed his lordship, after a few preliminary re marks) as great systems of education, as great subsidiary means for carrying on the edu cation acquired in early life, and as a great mode of civilising the masses of the population,—enabling them to retain what they had acquired—enabling them to add to their stores of knowledge—then they had before them a subject on which any one who felt the least interest in the welfare of his countrymen might descant for many hours together. He would spare them that, however, and only make one observa tion on the prizes last distributed. He had the honour of being one of the adjudicators, and he must repeat and confirm the statement of Lord Brougham, that all the essays submitted to his in• spection were marked by sound morality, sterling common sense, and an earnestness that was grate ful to his heart ; and, although it was perfectly true that the composition was sometimes faulty, the writing sometimes not easily legible, and the spelling of a new order of orthography—(laughter) —nevertheless he felt he might use the compliment paid to a philosopher of old, with a slight altera tion, and say, that he would rather spell ill with the vast majority of those men than spell well with thousands and tens of thousands whom he knew in states of life very far above them. (Cheers.) After all, they had the staple, they had the sound heart and true morality, and they only required an occasional visit to the Me chanics' Institution to obtain good writing and good spelling. (Cheers.) The only complaint lie now heard of those institutions was that they did not precisely answer the purpose for which they were originally intended, and that they did not educate and train the class for which they were founded. This might be true of other counties in England, but it was not so of Yorkshire. (Hear.) And of this he was quite sure, that although the system had failed as to the particular class for which it was first intended, it had not failed alto gether, for thousands, and many thousands, were enjoying its benefits. (Applause.) Let them re joice that these associations had been instituted, for by degrees they would be extended so as to embrace the class for which they were originally intended. (Hear, hear.) His Lordship then mentioned the importance of better buildings being provided for these institutions, which he considered ought to have a status and position in the eye of the people, and possess abuilding which the working man might call his own. This he considered, moreover, of mush importance, because they must regard Me chanics' Institutions as the great means of counter attraction to the various temptations of vice and licentiousness which would be found among large populations. Lord Brougham was perfectly correct in saying that these institutions, if properly used, would be a great antidote to the gin-palace and the leeershop, and he trusted, therefore, that there would be no longer delay than was absolutely ne cessary in establishing amidst large populations buildings suited to the purpose, where everything that could be required—the lending library, the reading-room, the coffee club, and everything which amid give dignity, comfort, and solace to the work ing man after the period:of his toil, might be ob tained. He trusted that the working men would not be satisfied on all occasions merely with going to the reading-room, and there passing an hour in conver sation and the pursuits of literature, but that they would take home choice works to read to their wives and children, and thus enlighten, cheer, and he might say sanctify, the domestic hearth, by acting the patriarchal pare, and affording a constant exemplification of that beautiful picture of Burns's " Saturday Night." (Loud cheers.) His lordship condemned most earnestly the reading of the trashy novels which were issued in such pro fusion almost every day, and he continued by re marking that Mechanics Institutions were not only grand supplements of the early closing move ment, which had already begun to pervade all the towns of the empire—and God be praised for the success it had enjoyed—but would prevent that movement being perverted. To prevent its being converted into affording an opportunity to go to receptacles of vice, and folly, and peril, they must have Mechanics' Institutions, and many other in stitutions of that description, which would profitably occupy the working man—withdraw him from temptation. (Applause.) He, therefore, rejoiced much to see the thriving condition of that associa tion, particularly as it was situate in a manufac turing district, because, since the consummation of that great measure which had given so much leisure time to the operatives in those districts, it had be come necessary that they should have such oppor tunities as were thus provided, lest they should be drawn into those abuses of time which they were formerly told would be the necessary result of giv ing the people more leisure. (Hear.) He believed, however, they would find that these leisure hours were devoted to the most profitable uses, and that men who had acquired a good and sound education in early life would now, after, the hours of toil, carry on that education so long as health and strength should endure. (Cheers.) There was no reason at all why labour should not be consistent with literature and knowledge, and knowledge and literature consistent with labour. (Hear, hear.) That which kept the body in a healthy and vigo rous state also kept the mind in a healthy and vigo rous state; and when a man had once, by large practice, acquired the habit of doing his work re gularly and systematically, he might often relieve the monotony of one class of duty by the mind dwelling on something which had perhaps been the subject of the previous night's study, and might thus pursue and carry to completion some object of his mind at the same time that he was toiling in the ordinary labour of the day. (Hear, hear.) He believed they - would live to see, under the blessing of Almighty God, the working classes brought to that moral and physical condition the ,, longed for, for he assumed they had sense enough to know that the security of this empire consisted in the good condition, bodily, mentally, morally, and spiri tually, of all the people. (Cheers.j With these views they must all heartily labour and pray for the extension of that and all similar institutions, and in the language of Scripture earnestly desire " that they will spread their branches into the sea and their boughs into the rivers" (Loud cheers.) His lordship concluded by moving the following resolution : " That this meeting desires to express its sympathy with the great work of popular education, and recognises the progress which has alre a dy been made as an earnest of still further success." Mr. M. 1). HILL seconded the resolution, which was carried, 3r. J. NAPIER. moved " that the meeting re garded with the deepest satisfaction tie efforts of mechanics' iustitutions and of every kindred so ciety," which was also carried. Mr. E. BAINES shortly addressed the meeting, which separated at 10 o'clock. CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE. _ . While the above meeting was going on a conver sational meeting of delegates from th Chambers of Commerce and other similar bodies was held in the saloon of the hall, Mr. Ripley, banker, in the chair. A conversation took place on the position and stand ing of Chambers of Commerce, and the best mode of increasing their influence. Some of the dele gates expressed an opinion in favour of their being incorporated by charters from Government, and it was suggested that they should in some way or other be recognised by Act of Parliament as bodies to be consulted by Government on commercial clues `ions. The little influence they possessed was Con -,ted with the great influence exerted by Chem tra, - ' Commerce on the continent, a n d th e id ea hers o. •=ted of their being invested with j u di c i a l was sugge , t-her mem b ers deprecated anything like powers. OL. --ters, and argued th a t a ll tha t was d czbini4i9n . among them requiredGovernment cha. ons :t it being urged that was union a... 1 o . listen to the opi sGelovveesnmx:f-cailaslvayseady merce on . .. nions expressed by Chambers of Co.'"'. ng judicial com mercial questions. The idea of conferil' nowers on the chambers, it was contended, would b -atinued for a considerable time, but, as t he ghed at by Parliament. The convers aton w e a : s .` k e l . subject oi . incorporation of Chambers of Com merce be taken up at one of the sections, no definite conch M. Milnes, M.P., To-day, as ai_ready stated, Mr. asion was come to at this meeting. read a paper, the the ;Bari of Shaftesbury and Punishment,' chair. i n George's-hall, on " Reformation ation Mr. MILNEs beg an a reft-rene: to t stem of punis days of h judicial torture and the rigoro us s j. he other countries, and gave an account of the system of transportaticen in modern days. That ing offsnders pursue d in for mer times in this and system, and how to ask was in what way - system had now ceased t o exist, and the question they had been compelled they could improve the ir p enal they were to make up f or the advanta g es the y had lost in the cessation of p enal settlements in the colonies. The discontinuance of transportation had roused the country and the Government to a full consideration of the treatment of prisonerS, and how they could best hold out to a criminal who had worked out his penalty the hope of restoration. If this question were treated properly, he was not cer tain that in the end the country would not be a de cided gainer by the discontinuance of transporta tion. The old system of cruelty and neglect pursued in our gaols had now disappeared, and the security given to life and property depended on the manner in which we could act on the moral consciousness of the criminal, and the channels of future restora tion which we could keep open for those who had undergone the penalty imposed for their offences. (Hear.) He looked on the reformatory treatment as in itself just and wise, independently of any results whatever. (Hear, hear.) He believed that in the eyes of the great Searcher of Hearts repentance was more grateful than untempted virtue. (Hear, hear.) It was a remarkable circumstance that on the anniversary of American Independence on the 4th of June the prisoners in some of the gaols took part in the demonstrations of the day. To us this ap peared grotesque and extravagant, but to that coun try we owed the solitary system, and he must say that in the very exaggeration which attended it he l i saw something to respect. (Hear.) Those who be lieved that criminals had not altogether forfeited their social condition—that there still remained something about them to be tended and matured into good, something to be recast and recovered — had a right to assume that they were still fellow citizens even in their own persons, and not insen sible to all the obligations of their country. (Hear, hear.) After referring to the influence of the sepa rate system on criminals, and the benefits which resulted from it, the hon. gentleman said the management of prisons had sometimes been con trasted with that of the asylums for the relief of the poor, and among others by Mr. Carlyle with whom he was at direct issue on this question. It should be recollected that the advantages found in the prison which so forcibly struck the mind of Mr. Carlyle had no attractions whatever for the ordi nary criminal (hear, hear), and that just in so far as these advantages became agreeable to him they might ass ume that better influences were getting dominion over him. (Hear, hear.) To say that he liked regularity, a life of constant labour and clean liness, and +Drier, and sobriety, was to say that he had begun to lay the foundations of a good charac ter. (Hear, hear.) But, after all, had not the scheme of " righteous vindication" had its fair trial; and was there a disposition anywhere to go back to the old rigorous systems, still less to resort to the slave galleys of a neighbouring country ? (Hear, hear.) On the other hand, the new system of treat ment had everything to recommend it. There was not a step taken in the system that was not founded on experience, and drawn from the deep well-spring of common sense. (Hear, hear.) Some time ago the panic about ticket-of-leave men was at its height, and it was quite as just and undiscriminat ing as panics usually are. Indeed, it was difficult to see how the general fear was to be allayed, ex cept by the continual incarceration of all criminals whom the colonies refused to receive. (A laugh.) In the committee of the House of Commons, which by its report gave the death-blow to all hopes of a return to transportation, he recommended the adoption of an intermediate stage of confinement before the criminal was driven out upon the world. His recommendation was not followed, but he could' point to instances in which the benefits of such a mode of treatment had been in the highest degree successful. He might refer to-what was taking place at Wakefield as an example. And there was one adult reformatory which had received pecuniary aid from the State, in which such an arrangement had been most satisfactorily carried out. He alluded to the combined work of Captain Crofton and Lord Carlisle. In the establishment in which their efforts had been carried out, 2,000 prisoners had been subjected to the intermediate System ; and out of 1,000 liberated on licence only 59 had their licences revoked, 21 of them being for irregularities and conduct not criminal. (Hear, hear.) Out of 700 discharged only eight had been again convicted, a most signal contrast to the state of things under the old system of punishment. (Hear, hear.) He could not help alluding to the former treatment of criminal children. The very mention of such words seemed ludicrous. (Hear, hear.) Men got so ac customed to the sight of children as forming the family of a gaol that they ceased to wonder at it. A child once there seldom left it long during his short life, and he became in fact a prisoner of the State, more costly than the man who had honour ably earned his pension in the service of his coun try. When in 1849 a bill was introduced by an in dependent member to alter this state of things it was described as a presumptuous and speculative piece of amateur legislation. (Hear.) The Secre tary of State opposed the bills, and even the Presi dent of the Association for the Promotion of Social Science declined to support it. (A laugh.) But there were men who would not let the old state of things continue, and the reformatory treatment of childhood was introduced. (Hear.) The hon. gentleman, after a reference to the system at Met tray, spoke of the danger of making too much of the love of approbation in the treatment of the in mates of reformatories. In an English reformatory the main impulse of life must be a clear sense of duty and a strong conviction that the right thing is the best thing to be done—(cheers)—not to desire even for that glory which has been well defined as a "deified vanity." (Hear, hear.) What they had to do in these institutions was to see that the labour was remunerative, that there was a personal super vision of a certain number of inmates, plain and earnest teaching, and a drawing out of the affec tions of childhood. The hon. gentleman then went on to express his regret that advantage was not taken to man the navy and army from such persons as might be obtained from the Akbar reformatory ship at Liverpool. Such an employment was free from all the difficulties that beset the engagement of boys from reformatories in domestic service. (Hear, hear.) He did not wish to see the boy from a reformatory in an exceptional position. He should fall into the ranks of men subsisting on honourable labour, de pending on his own exertions, not on patronage. (Hear.) In course of time his past would be for gotten, and if he rose in life there would be no sus picion that he cored his elevation to his faults or his weakness. (Hear.) This kind of restoration he regarded rather as formation than reformation, and prevention rather than cure. (Hear.) They gave the child the child's punishment, and they en deavoured to see what could be best done for him. (Hear) With regard to the present payment for the support of such children as these, he attached so much importance to it that he regretted to see the Poor Law relief brought as a reason against it. He thought that if parents obtaining parochial re lief were unable to support their children in the re formatories, the charge should lie on the parish, - with a resource on their part against the parents. (Hear.) He asked whether the time had not come when this reformatory system should pass from voluntary effort to the superintendence and support of the State. (Hear.) The hon. gentleman then reviewed some of the projects put forward for the prevention of crime. Among these ,he noticed the proposals made to enforce abstinence from spiritu ous liquors. In this he could not concur. It had never been the habit of the British Legislature to attempt to limit vicious principles or passions, so long as they did not lead to the disturbance of pub lic order. Nor were they in the habit of enforcing particular views upon a minority. It should be re membered, too, that nature provided a E evere net, i - bution for intemperate habits, and he doubted whether the use of intoxicating liquors led so much to grave crime as was usually represented. Be sides, were Lord Brougham and he to be allowed their port and sherry, and the poor man deprived of his beer ? (Hear.) They must prevent crime by education, and refo:ru it in punishment, and there our age would be no less famous for its victories over the moral than over the material world. (Cheers.) The sections then met, and were sitting when OM parcel left. [A D VERTISEMENT.]—EPPs's (Homoeopathic Chemist) COCOA.-This esteemed preparation is sold by the prin cipal grocers at is. Gd. per lb, ' iq 11b., 41h., and Vb. packets. Each packet is labelled " James Epps, Horace°. pathic chemist, London." WRECK OF THE STEAMER EXPRESS. SOUIHAMPTON, THURSDAY. This morning tite inquiry adjourned from yester day was resumed at the Town-hall, before Mr. J. Bernard and Captain Engledue, magistrates, and Captain Harris, nautical assessor to the Board of Trade. Joseph Knott, second engineer of the Express, gave evidence confirmatory of that given by the previous witnesses. lie had made 70 or 80 passages to and from Jersey, and gone through the channel in question between :5 and 30 times, under the command of Capt. Harvey and two other captains. Wm Rivers, seaman, :vas on deck when the Ex press ,struck. She struck on a rock with two heads, the name of which he did not know. He saw the rock four or five ships' length off. The ship did not strike against the high double-headed rock (the Frouquis), but a small outlying one. The captain motioned his hand for the helm to be starboarded, and cisied out starboard," but the ship did not an swer the helm, and struck against the rock, about three or four ships' lengths off the double-headed rock. Was quite sure the vessel did not pass its side the Frouquis. Corp Allix, pilot, of St. Helier's, Jersey, stated that he knew the coast well, and the different rocks in the neighbourhood. Was acquainted with the usual channel taken by vessels in coming and going from Jersey. Going from Jersey to Southampton there is an inner passage between the Jaileurs and the Costlier° rocks. The Bon and other rocks were called the Jaileurs. The channel lies between the Bon and the Frouquis, and was used by sailing vessels and steamers according to the time of tide. It was little less than a quarter of a mile, Both rocks were visible when the tide was about two hours' flood. No rock was visible between the Bon and the Frouquis, excepting one close to the Bon, bearing E.N.E., which was sometimes awash at low water and spring tides. The channel between Frouquis and the mainlaud was navigable at cer tain times of the tide. There was a depth of about seven feet at two hours' flood in this channel. He knew no sunken rock between Bon and Frouquis on - which a ship might strike. the channel was quite clear. There was at times a ground swell, which takes place suddenly. He did not know where the Express struck. A ship might strike, with a heavy swell on, on the sunken rock to the eastward of Bon. It was neap tide on the 20th of September, when there would be less chance of a ship striking than at the springs. In that chan nel the tide rises three or four feet at two hours' flood, the total rise being 14 or 15 feet. William Moon, quartermaster of her Majesty's ship Dasher, deposed to having been on the Jersey station 20 years, and was well acquainted with the east end of the Jersey coast. He was a passenger by the Express at the time of the accident. The steamer passed through the inner channel, between the Corbiere and the Frouquis. Never went through there but once before. - Witness noticed the Bon rock on this occasion, and had particular reasons for doing so. When rounding the Corbiere he was standing under the bridge, and heard the captain ask John Brett to go aft and give the man at the wheel a heave, as he was going through a short cut. Witness then walked forward to the bow on the port side. George Brett, who belongs to the Cus toms at Jersey, was with him. Witness leaned over the bow, and looked aft to observe the captain's motions, in order to take notice of the passage they were going. At this time they were quite near to the usual passage through this channel. He ob served the captain hold out his right hand, and the vessel's head payed:off, and brought first the Bon and then the Frouquis rocks on the port bow. The cap tain's hand dropped, and witness thought the ship was going an unusual course that he had never seen or heard of before, and he made an observation to that effect to George Brett. The ship was then going at full speed, and the captain on the bridge. Almost immediately afterwards witness looked over the bow, and saw what appeared to be a rock, owing to the discolouration of the water on the port bow. The Frouquis rock was brought a little abaft the port paddlebox, 80 or 100 fathoms off. The ship immediately struck with a slight touch on the port bow, and about two or three seconds afterwards a -heavier blow. The Bon rocks were nearly astern,and farther from the ship than the Frouquis. They were between the Frouquis and the main land. There was a ground swell, but if the Express had been going between the Bon and the Frouquis rocks he did not think it would have caused her to strike. Capt. J. Ramon, deputy harbourmaster at Jer sey, gave it as his opinion that if there had not been a ground swell the ship might have passed safely. It was generally considered that when they could leave the harbour of St. Heliers it was safe to take the Jaileurs passage. The inquiry was again adjourned to Saturday. THE LATE SIR JOHN FRANKLIN. A. very interesting lecture was delivered last evening in the St. James's School-room, White Horse-street, Stepney, on the fate of Sir Sohn Franklin and his companions. The lectu:er was Mr. W. Parker Snow, formerly second in command of the discovery ship Prince Albert, and author of a voyage in the Arctic Sea:, and the proceeds were for the benefit of the British Workmen's Emigration Society. The chair •was taken by the Rev. R. H. Ather ton, M.A., who introduced Mr. Snow to the meeting. The LECTURER commenced by alluding to the melancholy death of his gallant chief, whose fate had for so many years been involved in the deepest mystery. He left this country in 1845 to ascertain what was well known to them as tho "North-west passage," but had never been heard of until re cen tl y . The discovery of that passage had been always a subject of great interest in this country, and from an early period many attempts had been made, but in vain. He described his own expedition, when he was second in command of th e P r i nce Albert, and how, at Cape Riley, he 'discovered a nutri a fly leaf of a Prayer relics. On that oeca ber of articles, among which was a button belonging way in their search er every y they came to Prince s t ßb o ilooi tonsitcot;nihealeenied;goilteethd, ieon,n t t h ae7i e r dee sNnwttianhevgiy, when Regent's Inlet it was determined to proceed no far Vier. In vain did he (Mr_ Snow) point out the place where he believed Sir John Franklin to be—in vain did he offer to go in a boat to explore that part of the country ; it was thought too hazardous, and so was given up. Had his advice been followed, the discovery now made by the Fox would have been effected at that time. His commander, however, knowing his great responsibility, declined to do so; but h believed, lihwever, nobly and courageously, for when they were obliged to lay up for the winter, he procured a sledge, and was out 79 days searching in every direction, but in vain. When he returned to the ship, he was so fatigued that his life was despaired of for many weeks. The lecturer then described on a large chart the route taken by Captain M'Clintock in the Fox, and the discoveries made, which left no doubt whatever of the unhappy fate of the gallant Franklin and his hapless companions. In one of the cairns they found a paper, and on it written in five different languages that which left no doubt whatever of the fate of the expedition. They all knew that the two ships under Franklin's command were the Erebus and Terror, and that they left England on the 25th of May, 1845. They had heard of Dr. Rae's tale a few years ago, when it was concluded the party had perished; and then the noble and affectionate Lady Franklin devoted her fortune to see if possible and recover her hus band. After some unsuccessful attempts she pur chased the Fox, and gave the command to a gallant seaman, Captain M'Clintock, of whose success there was now unfortunately no doubt whatever. The ship left Aberdeen two years ago, and nothing was heard of the party until the latter part of the autumn of 1858, when it appeared the vessel was caught in the midst of what was called "pack ice," and was tossed about in the most fearful manner until the following April. They did not, however, give up the expedition, and finally triumphed. He should observe that the expenses incurred from tke beginning by various Governments, in search of Franklin and his party, cost no less than £830,000. When he said the fate of the expedition was known, lie did not mean to say that all had perished. Sir John Franklin died in April, 1817, shortly after which, one hundred and five men set out in the di rection of the Great Fish River; and he, for one, believed that many of them were still alive, and would be found residing among the natives of that vast continent. They had instances of English men, and especially English sailors, often doing so; and there were reasonable grounds, he believed, t' suppes'ng that several of that ill-fated expedition would be found vet alive. What became of the 105 men no one knew. The skeletons found proved that scale had perished. But he hoped and believed further searches would be made for them next spring. For his own part he only wi shed he had been a oi m an of fortune, and he would follow the noble course pursued by Lady Franklin. They all f knew the fate of Sir John Frank lin and o some his oifieers, but why should nth some attempts be made to discover what became of the greater •por tion of the men who landed in April , ISIS , Ile «ould organise a people's expedition to discover what became of them. To Lady Franklin every • credit wat due, and he hoped her exertions, and those of Captain M.Clintock and his officers, would receive the gratitudo of their country. May all blessings atttnd that noble lady for her persever ance in so great and-humane a cause. The lecturer then concluded amid loud applause. On the motion of Mr. WILFORD, a warm vote of I thanks was passed to Mr. Snow, after which the meeting separated. „POLICE L ''E.—Oct. 13. WORSHIP-STREET.—ASSATILT AND RESCUE OF A BURGLAR BY FEMALES.—Sarah Taylor and Elizabeth Hall, young women with infants in their arias, were charged before Mr. Corrie with assault ing two City officers, and rescuing the husband of the first-mentioned prisoner from custody. Edward Funnel', a sergeant of the City police, stated that on the previous afternoon he and ano ther constable went to a house in Hare-street, SpitaltiPlds, for the purpose of apprehending a man named George Taylor, concerned in a burglary at the business premises of Messrs. Surr and Sons, silk manufacturers in King-street, Cheapside, upon which occasion a large amount of property was stolen, and a reward of £lOO subsequently offered for the recovery of the same and apprehension of the thieves, one of whom was soon afterwards taken and sentenced to transportation. Having forced an entrance into a room in the house now in question, they found Taylor sitting with scarcely any clothes on, and a baby in his arms. On telling him that he must accompany them, he replied, "Very well," and desired one of the prisoners to take the infant, 1 and she had no sooner done so than he commenced a desperat e attack upon witness and his brother officer the women assisting. Hall called out, " Knife him, knife him, George," and a long-bladed clasp-knife was then seen in his hand. Witness at once sought to secure the weapon, and after a struggle in which he was cut in the hand, succeeded. Hall struck at him with a large pair of shears, cutting his hat down from the crown, bit his hand, and assaulted the other officer. The struggle continued in this way for at least ten minutes, until at last it became impossible to retain possession of their prisoner, as both women clung to them and impeded their efforts Taylor himself being difficult to hold, from his al most nude state. After getting him to the stair case ho sprung from the top to the bottom, and es caped in an instant. This evidence having been corroborated by Knight, 487, a plain-clothes man, Mr. Beard cross-examined Sergeant Funnell, who admitted that he did not see Hall strike him, although he perceived her arm raised and the shears in her possession. Matilda Taylor, 15, sister-in-law of the prisoner Taylor, was sworn, and insisted that she herself bit the sergeant's hand, to prevent him ill-using her brother, and that the women scarcely inter fered, being engaged with their children the whole time. Mr. Corrie ordered Hall to be imprisoned for one month, and Taylor 14 days. Mr. Beard strongly urged that the prisoners should have the opportunity of paying a fino, on aeczunt of their infants. They might be able to raise the money in a few days. Mr. Corrie listened to the application, and fined Hall £3, with costs, and Taylor 305., or the terms of imprisonment named. The money was instantly paid. WESTMINSTER.—THE STRIKE INTIMIDATION OF WORKMEN.—COMMITTAL FOR CONSPIRACY.— William Port, an ex-policeman, and William. Ward, were brought up on a warrant, in the cus tody of Knowland, a warrant officer of the court, charged before Mr. Paynter with using threaten ing language towards Mr. Frederick Wood and Wm. Phipps, in the employment of Messrs. Trol lope, the contractors. Mr. Cumming, late an inspector of the B divi sion, said that in consequence of the annoyance to which the workmen in the employment of Mr. Kalk and the Messrs. Trollope had been subjested for some time by men who frequented the Paviors' Arms, he had been employed to afford protection to men in their employmant. During the last few days the society men (the men on the strike) have ac ed in a way more desperate than ever, and which conduct he attributed to the masters' determina tion to resist the demands of the men. He stated the circumstances of the charge, and observed that the conduct of the men had become so bad that the complainants' employers were compelled to take these proceedings against the prisoners. He called the following witnesses : Frederick Wood said that he was foreman of the bricklayers in the employment of Messrs. Trollope. On Wednesday week he met the prisoners, who were in the company of anothor man not in ens toiy, when some of them made an observation about his having obtained men from the country. Mr. Paynter—What did either of the prisoners say ? Complainant—They said, "We have got you now. We will smash your head for taking other people's bread out of their mouths." Ward laid hold of my collar and said, " I will let you have it." Port observed to Ward, " Go out of the way, I will let him have it. You are drunk." Complainant remarked, " You go your way, and I will go mine." Port said, " You shall not go yet," and laid hold of me. All the men then got round me. In answer to Mr. Paynter, complainant stated that Ward observed he would smash his head, as had it not been for him the job would not have been carried out. Port, en last Friday week, followed him and asked him, " What was his number ?" He had been compelled to leave his lodgings in conse quence; of the intimidation and threats of the pri soners and their companions. Mary Wcod, complainant's wife, deposed that she saw her husband surrounded by the prisoners. She went out to his assistance, when Ward remarked to her that, if she were a man, he would knock her two eyes into one. She was in a constant state of alarm. Win. Phipps, carpenter, employed by the Messrs. Trollope, stated that he had been followed by Ward, who called out to him, " Where is your number P Go on, yoa blackleg." Mr. Cumming said that he had seen the pri soners with other men from the Paviors' Arms almost daily in front of the gates of the Messrs. Trollope, to watch the men as they came out. He knew Port, as he was a constable in the same divi sion in which he was. Mr. Paynter observed that this was a charge of so serious a nature, that he considered it was his duty to send it before another tribunal. It was time that the law should interfere. He should re mand them for a week, when he should send them for trial to the sessions on a charge of conspiracy for the purpose of preventing men pursuing their daily occupation. In the meanwhile, if any of the prisoners companions could be found, and a case was proved, he should include them in the charge. The prisoners were then bound over in two sure ties of £5O each to appear that day week. GREENWICH.—SERIous ASSAULT BY A WIFE uroN lIER HUSBAND, —Jane Robinson, a miserable, dissipated looking woman, about si x ty y ears o f age , residing at 14, Mord brought up on en-street, Greenwich, was alvvicar husband, before Mr. Traill, charged with assaulti ng iusband, Cornelius Robinson, aged eighty-four, and causing such injuries that he is not expected to survive. It appear e d attended at the that a few days since the old man covered with court,. his head being completely ster, and obtained a summons against the prisoner Pta for assaulting him, and which was set d own prison er not for hearing on Wednesday, but the answering, a warrant was granted for her i apprehenson, consequent upon the following medical cert . a eate being produced:— " Croom's-hill, October 12, 1859. "This is to • to his bed, certify that Cornelius Robinson is confined _ Le suffering. from severe erysipelas of the head and L e : originating from a wound on the head, inflicted, as I am informed, by his wife. He is in great danger, and con sequently linable to attend the police court. (Signed) " HircitY N. PINK, Surgeon." Police-constable Kendall, 318 It, said he appre hended the prisoner this (Thursday) morning, and on telling her the charge against her, she replied that she had suffered great ill-treatment from her husband, and had taken up a brush or a broom and struck him with it. During the time witness was at the prisoner's house Mr. Pink visited her hus band, and said there were not the slightest hopes that ho would ever recover. Police-constable H olman, 247 It, said that since the assault was committed the prisoner had been continually intoxicated. The prisoner, who trembled violently, as though suffering from the effects of excessive drink, re pc,ate d her complaint of bein g ill-treated by her husband. Mr. Traill said, as it appeared the man was in a dying state, he wo uld p roceed to the house where he . was lying, with Mr. Boustred, the chief clerk, and take his deposition. Police-constable Kendal, 318 It, then took the prisoner to the bed-side of her husband, when the following deposition was made:— " The prisoner is my wife. This happened on Tuesday morning last week. She had been out all ' , lit and came home i n the mornin g about six n, , o'clock. She had the key of the street door, and let herself in. She knew I was not well. I was getting out of bed, and asked her wh y she had stopped out all night, when she flew in such a passion, and struck, me a blow on the head with a brush, which she brought up stairs with her. Sh e called me all sorts of wicked names, and struck me wore than a dozen times on the head. I was not very well, for my mind had been had through her.. I was agitated through her stopping out. It was the short-handled brush she struck me with. think she must have been drinking." in reply to the prisoner, the injured man ad mitted acting in his own defence, and added that the violence was continued towards him When down stairs. The above statement having been read over to the dying man by M r . Boustred, it was sign e d i n the usual manner, and t he p rison er was remanded to Maidstono Gaol, SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. NEWMARKET SECOND OCTOBER MEETING. THURSDAY. Match, 200, Bst 71b each. A.F. 1 mile 2 fur. 73 yards. Mr. F. Robinson's Antonio, by Bay Middleton, Bst 71b Duke of Bedford's L u ff, B s t 71b (A ( Day) 1 (Wells) 2 Bettimg-5 to 4 on Antonio. Luff made play. In the cords Antonio joined him, and the two ran a fine race home ; Antonio winning by a head. Fifty Pounds Plate, for two-yr-olds and upwards. Allow ances and penalties. R.M. 1 mile 17 yds. Mr. J. Merry's Brother to Rainbow, by Chanticleer, 6st 41b Mr. T. Brown's Weatherbound, Est 41b (J. Adams) 2 Mr. G. Lambert's Claire, 3 yrs, Bst 71b .... (J. Goater) 3 The following also ran :—Zuyder Zee, Neophyte, Broc ketina, colt by Prime Minister, Blue Jacket, filly by Sweet meat, Nessus, colt by Touchstone. Betting-3 to 1 agst Brother to Rainbow, sto 1 agst Zuyder Zee, 6 to 1 each agst Weatherbound and Claire. From the Bushes Hill the race was reduced to a match between Brother to Rainbow and Weatherbound, the former winning easily by a neck ; very bad third. The others struggled in at wide intervals ; Peasant Girl colt, the Rowena colt, Nessus, and Neophyte were next. Renewal of the Bretby Stakes of 100 sovs each, h ft, for two-yr-old fillies, Bst 71b each. Last three quarters of R.M. 8 subs. Sir C. Monck's Vesta, by Stockwell, Bst 71b (L. Snowd en ) 1 Mr. Merry's Lady Falconer, Bst 71b (J. Osborne) 2 Lord Glasgow's filly, by Barbatus, Bst 71b.... (Aldcroft) 3 Betting—Even on Vesta, 6 to 4 agst Lady Falconer. The favourite made all the running, and won by a length the Coalition filly was beaten off. Sweepstakes of 10 sovs each, for two-yr-olds ; colts, Bst 71b ; fillies, Bst 51b; the winner to be sold for 150 sovs if de manded, &c. T.Y.C. 5 fur. 140 yds. 7 subs. Mr. R. Ten Broeck's Pomona Bst 51b (Fordham) 1 Mr. R. Stephenson's Twang, Bst 71b (Wells) 2 Nr. G. Lambert's Fernleaf, Bst 51b (G. Goater) 3 The following also ran :—Pauline filly, Rosalind, Tisi phone colt, Wild Deer. Betting-9 to 4 agst Pomona, 4to 1 agst The Pauline filly, 5 to 1 agst Fernleaf. The favourite led all the *ay, and won by a length and a half ; a neck between the second and third ; and a head between the third and fourth. Match, IN, h. ft. First half of Ab. M. 3 fur. 215 yards. Duke of Bedford's Orlando, 3 yrs, Bst 81b (Wells) t Mr. F. Robinson's Croquemitaine, 2 yrs, 7st 31b (Fordham) t The betting was alternately 11 to 10 on each, Orlando having a slight call at last. Croquemitaine led, and seemed to have the best of the race within a few strides of the chair, but suddenly shut ting up, was caught on the post, and a dead heat was made. Sweepstakes of 10 sovs each, for three-yr-olds ; colts, Bst 71b ; fillies, Bst 41b. The winner to be sold for 100 sovs, if demanded, &c. First half of Ab. M. 3 fur. 215 yards. 4 subs. Mr. Morris's Hop Merchant, Bst 71b (L. Snowden) 1 Mr. Blanton's Fusee, Bst 71b (French) 2 Mr. Barnes's Fontarabia, Bst 71b . (Fordham) 3 Mr. Barnard's Nutfield also ran. Betting.—Even on Fusee, 3 to 1 against Hop Merchant. Won by two lengths ; bad third. Match, 100, h. ft, Bst 71b each. First half of Ab. M. 3 fur. 215 yds. Mr. F. Robinson's Apollo, by Pyrrhus the First, Bst 71b (A. Day) 1 Mr. Savile's Herman, Bst 71b (Ashmall) 2 Betting-7 to 4on Apollo, who made the running and won by a head. Sweepstakes of 10 sovs each, for two-yr-olds and upwards. The winner to be sold for 300 sovs if demanded, Sce. First half of Ab. M. 3 fur. 215 yds. Mr. J. Smith's Infanta, by Orlando, 2 yrs, 6st 101 b (Edwards) 1 Mr. Locke's New Brighton, aged, 9st 31b.... (Fordharn) 2 Mr. Locke's Olympus, . 6 yrs, 9st 31b (D. Hughes) 3 The following also ran :—Confusion, Lady Falconer, Ringlet, and Little Gerard. Betting—Even on Olympus, 5 to 1 agst Infanta, 7 to 1 agst Little Gerard, 10 to 1 agst New Brighton (off). 100 to 5 was laid once or twice. Olympus led to the cords, where he was beaten, and New Brighton, Infanta, Laky Falconer, and Confusion went on abreast ; a fine race was given in favour of Infanta by a head, New Brighton beating Olympus by a neck. Confu sion and Lady Falconer were next, little more than a head from the third, and so close together that the judge could not place a fourth ; clear of them Ringlet was sixth, and Little Gerard seventh. Match, 100 soya, h. ft. First half of Ab. M. 3 fur. 215 yds. Duke of Bebford's Golden Pippin, by Hesperus, Bst 71b t Lord Ailesbury's Plumper , B st 51 b ......... (Wells) .. (Ashmall) t B A ecloset in to—ra7ce,resulted in a d ea d heat. Handicap 4on Plumper. Sweepstakes of 10 sovs each, for three-yr olds. D.M. 7 fur 201 y d s. 9 subs. Mr. Angell's The Greek, B s t 41b t g (Perry) 1 Mr. Harlam's Oehiltree, 6st 101 b (Hibberd) 2 Mr. Higgins's Broadbrim, 7st 71b (Cresswell) 3 The following also ran :—Julie, Dove, Knuckle Duster, and Appendix. Betting-5 to 2 agst The Greek, sto 1 each agst Dove and Julie, 6 to leach agat Orrhiltrao and Rroadbrhu. Won by a neck ; bad third. Handicap Plate of £lOO. A.F. 1 mile 2 fur 73 yds. Mr. J. Osborne's Lady Alice, 4 yrs, 6st 41b (Challoner) 1 Mr. T. Brown's Joskin, 3 yrs, sst (Bradf or d) 2 Mr. Greville's H arr y St an l ey, 4 yrs, 7st ........ (Perry) 3 The following a l so rau :--Precursor, Lansquenet, Lord Nelson, Clydesdale, East Langton, Argosy, Theodora, Griselda, Bevis, Accurate, Moorcock, Minster, and Com modore. Betting-7 to 2 agst Theodora, 6to 1 each agst Lord Nelson, Accurate, and Lady Alice, 7 to 1 agst Lansquenet, 10 to 1 each agst Clydesdale and East Langton, 100 to 8 each agst Precursor and Commodore. Won by a length ; two lengths between the second and third ; half a length between the third and fourth ; good fifth; East Langton was sixth. Match, 100, Bst 71b each. I.,ast Half of Ab. M. Captain M. Smith's Nelly, Bst 71b (Fordham) 1 Mr. R. M orr i s ' s The Black Pony, Bst 71b ....(Aldcroft) 2 Betting. -2 to lon Nelly, who won by twelve lengths. Match, 2,000, 500 ft, Bst 101 b each. T.M.M.—Mr. l Day's Th e P rom i se d L an d , b y J er i c h o , rece i v ed forfeit from Sir J. Hawley's Musjid. Match, 200, h ft. A.F.—Mr. F. Robinson's Actaeon, by Newmi ns t er , B s t 31b, rece i ve d 50 sovs ft from Lord Lin coln's Indifference, Bst 131 b. p 1 ° T y n e d E TOWN ont he PLATE.—Whilst T E some Whi quietst people proceedings wer e e b e u r s e il t y sk o i n n ; t p h la s c d e it a c m h i . ds T t h t e ho T s o i w le n nc p e l a a n te d , s t o o li w tu h d i e ch o w n e t r h eferr o w e t d he o r n si: l e on o - f d s a e y co , n an d, d t w o h b i e ch r w un as fo f i or e d v e e d ry e one horse second c o t h n d Thursdayreign of nl C i h n e O rl c e t e o t b l e e r showed levveedr,f'o' for it, i‘ r. about s. E to o g b e r e s s Surrender,disposedeofm. on ey lowed to walk over. The entrance money net td value syhleu that was w o e t f he the Plaguineas,te e W e hen the Plate . was P l t e w wasfirst purchased. established t to rental, but what becomes of th o yearly r s olna valu eneyd itne f o i ws twentyd. yieldsffiu., guineas 1 good nea de termine. LATEST BETTING. CAMBRIDGESHIRE. 10 to 1 agst'North Lincoln (taken) 11 to 1 agst.Artless (taken) 13 to 1 agst Ariadne (taken) 100 to 6 agst Volta (taken) 100 to 6 agst Geologie (taken) 100 to 6 agst Lady Alice (taken) 20 to 1 agst Mazzini (taken) 20 to 1 agst Honey (offered) 25 to 1 agst Ambush (offered) 30 to 1 agst Gracchus (taken) 30 to 1 agst Penalty (offered) 1000 to 30 agst Petra (taken) 40 to 1 agst Maud (taken) HORSES STRUCK OUT OF THEIR ENGAGE MENTS. Oct. 7, at 5.30 p.m., Cytherus, out of the Cesarewitch. Oct. 7, after 6.0 p.m., Wrestler out of the Cesarewitch and Cambridgeshire. Oct. 9, at 5.15 p.m., Lady Fair (dead), out of all engage ments. Oct. 9, at 5.30 p.m., Digby Grand, out of all engage• manta this year. Oct. 10, at 9.0 a.m , Brazen, out of engagements on Monday in Second October meeting. Oct. 10, at noon, The Old Engli;h Gentleman, out of the Cesarewitch. Oct. 10, at 1.0 p.m., Ferndale, out of the Suffolk Handi cap, Ipswich. AQUATICS. THE CHAMPIONSHIP OP THE THAMES, AND KELLY AND WHITE. Arising out of the late great match for the championship of the Thames is considerable speculation upon the compa rative merits of Henry Kelly, the ex-champion, and Thos. White, of Bermondsey, and the probability of a match be.. tween them. Both these men have been vanquished by the renowned Robert Chambers, of Newcastle, and the ques tion which suggests itself is, which of his two victories was the easier, or which is the next best man to him. Upon this subject aquatic men are much divided in opinion, for while some maintain the superiority of Kelly, others as un hesitatingly declare that, taking into account the fact that White, whe rowed on the Tyne, was unacquainted with the water, h a d recently taken up his quarters in that lo cality and was not in very first-rate condition, he may be found Kelly's superior. Of one thing there can be no doubt, that they would make a very fine race, and as the Theme, at present owns a non-resident champion, it is very &Air able that it should be ascertained what waterman gaining a living upon it may be considered at its head. Strong as the opinions run upon the respective merits of Kelly and White, but very few could be found willing to back either at odds. EVERSON OF GREENWICH AND CORBY OF GRAVESEND. It will be remembered that a race—deemed for the c hampionship below bridge—took place about two months ago between Everson of Greenwich and Corby of Graves end, which was won by the former, after a great deal of fouling, which drew upon Corby much censure. The 111 E a held one another for a long distance, and this fact has in duced a notion that Corby might yet, upon another trial, prove successful. Everson has expressed his willingness to again engage with his late opponent, and a second match i■ confidently anticipated between them. TRADESMEN'S CHALLENGE FOUR-OARED RACE. A very exciting four•-oared race came of yesterday, from Putney aqueduct to the top of Chiswick Ait, the competi tors being the Prince Albert Aquatic Club and the Temple Unity Rowing Club, both hailing from the Strand. The challenge had been given by the Temple Club to row for £lO a-side, and the Prince Albert having accepted it, the following crews went into training for the event : nine() Albert Aquatic Club. 1. Mr. It Wilson. j 3. Mr. H. Burton. 2. Mr. A. Hill, I Mr. J. Wilkie, stroke. Mr. W. Shipiay, coxswain. Temple Unity Rowing Club. 1. Mr. H. Davis. - T I 3. Mr. J. Norton. 2. Mr. T. Pe a t. Mr. H. Stanaway, stk. Mr. J. Dyer, coxswain. Thomas Pocock was starter and referee. They drifted up to the Bells, and then got off very evenly at a quick pace, being much too close together. They rowed shortly level to Finch's, where the Temple Club shot a little in advance, and slightly bored their opponents, who had the inside berth. In this position they continued to the point where their sculls slightly touched, but so little as not to impede the boats, and at Craven they were still about level. The Prince Albert here began to lead and drew away gradually to the Crab Tree, where they were clear, and having the best place they rapidly increased their lead, eventually winning by several lengths. COUNTRY MARKETS. MANCHESTER—OcT. 13. Our market was not so well attended this morning, and there was a firm demand for choice English wheat, but sales were chiefly confined to good samples, at is advance. Foreign was held above the views of millers. Little busi ness was done in flour, as higher prices were asked. Oats and oatmeal sold better at full rates. Beans steady. In dian corn is dearer. BIRMINGHAM-OCT. 13. There was a good supply of wheat to-day, and the attendance was moderate. An inactive business doing, and, in some instances, at is more money. Barley in de mand, and maintained quotations. Beans and peas were dull. Oats in demand. LOUTH—OcT. 12. A good amount of business was done to-day, and the prices were at an advance on last week, viz., wheat, red and mixed, old and new, 41s to 44s per qr. ; white, 49i. Best samples of barley much inquired for. Oats, 21s to 24s ; beans, 42s to 46s ; barley, 38s to 41s. PLYMOUTH-Our 12. This market rather inactive, with little inquiry for wheat at a slight advance. Oats in fair demand. Grinding bar ley in good sale. Flour the turn dearer. English white wheat, 46s to 48s ; red, 44s to 46s per qr ; French do., 435 to 45s ; grinding barley, 26. to 28s ; oats, 20s to 245; and flour, fine, 33. to 24s ; seconds, 31s to 325. EDINBURGH GRAIN—OcT. 12. Sales were dull to-day, and supplies large of all kinels. Wheat on the top 4s Od up. .average Os 3d down. Barley on the top Os 6d down average Os lditp. Oats on the top Os 9d up Beans on the top is d0wn......... average is 2d up. Averages per Imperial quarter. Wheat.... Barley 1 15 0 0-12ths Oats 1 8 7 0-12ths Beans Total Supply and Sales. Wheat .1487 qr 5......,. Sold 1047 qrs 8ar1ey..... ..2100 qr 5........ Sold 1558 qrs Oats .1277 qrs ........ Sold 1072 qrs. Beans 5l qrs Sold 31 qrs GLASGOW--OcT. 11. This day's market was well attended. Good Foreign wheat realised fully last week' s prices • hone-grown ad vanced 6d to is p er 2401 b. ; dour, 6d to ' ls per sack. Bar ley 6d higher. Oats itnliroved 3d to 6d per 2641bs ; oat meal 6d to 9d per 28fY1b. Beans in favour of the seller. Indian corn declined 6 ( 1 per 2801 b. DBRAIY SMITHFIELD—OcT. 11. The supply of fat stock to-day was good, with a fair attendance of buyers; high prices were asked for the best quality, but a few of the middling sort were left unsold. Sheep were in full average supply, with a flat demand. Fat calves numerous. A full supply of pigs, but the de mand was flat, at a slight fall. Beef Mutton Lamb Od to Od Rough fat, 5s 6d per stone. Hides, 3d to 5-id ; calf skins, 6d to 6td. FOREIGN MAIL PACKET LIST. In the following table E signifies that letters are despatched by evening mails from London, and u by morning mails. Next DESTINA.TIONs. Despatch Po r t o f ' Mail of Mails. Despatch. due. Australia and Mauritius, via Southampton Nov. 12, M Southamp. overdue Ditto, via Marseilles Bahamas and Havana via New York Oct. 28, E Liverpool.. Oct. 27 Canada, &c. (by Canadn. pckt ) Oct. 18, E Liverpool.. Oet. 12 Cape of Good Hope, Ascen sion, and St. Helena Nov 5, E Devonport Nov. 1 China, Penang, and Singa pore, via Southampton Oct. 20, E Southamp. Oct. 19 Ditto, via Marseilles Gibraltar, via Southampton .. Oct. 20, M Southamp. overdue Honduras and Blewfields .... Oct. 17, M Southamp. Oct. 16 India (Calcutta) and Ceylon, via Southampton Oct. 20, 31 Southamp. Oct. 19 Ditto, via Marseilles India (Bombay), via South ampton Oct. 27, M Southamp. overdue Ditto, via Marseilles Lisbon, Brazils,Buenos Ayres, and F. Islands Nov. 9,11 Southamp. 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Du Barry and Co., 77, Regent-street, London* Fortnum, Mason, and Co., 182, Piccadilly ; Abbis, 60, G racechureh-stre e t ; 4, Cheapside ; 63, and 150, Oxford street ; 330 and 451, Strand • 49 and 60, Bishopsgate street ; 85 Tottenham-couri-road. Also at Dublin, Bewley and Draper ; at Edinburgh, Raimes and Co. and Liverpool, Nixon and Thew ; at Manchester, Skarp arid Scott ; at York, Raimes, Blanchard, and Ca. ; at South ampton, Rand a ll and Son. BIRHS. BRUCE.—On th e 10 t h inst., at T Edinburgh, the wife of Cap tain Robert Cathcart Dalrymple Bruce, Bth (King's Own) Regt., of a son. FURZE.—On the 11th inst at 23, Leinster•gard ens , Hyde park, th e w id ow of John Nokes Furze, Esq., of • daughter. HAGGITT.—On the 11th inst., at Drinkstene, Suffolk, the wife of Henry Haggitt, Esq., of a son. KENNEDY. —On the 11th inst., at Kirklands, Inverston, Lancashire, the wife of Charles Burton Kennedy, Esq., of a son. MARRIAGES. Cu rsnoLm—BELL.—O n the 13th inst., at St. George's, Bloomsbury, Henry Williams Chisholm, Esq., of H.M.'s Exchequer, to Anna Louisa, second daughter of William Bell, Esq., of Woburn-place, Russell-square. EVER Y — HOLLON).—On the 12th 'inst., at Benhall, Sir Henry Flower Every, Bart., of Egginton Hall, Derby shire, to Mary Isabella, eldest daughter of the Rev. Ed mund Hollond, of Benhall Lodge, Suffolk. DEATHS. BERNEY.—On the 11th inst., John, third son of Thos. T. Berney, Esq., Morton Hall, Norfolk. BuELocx.—On the 9th inst., Francis Smallwood, son of Edwin Bullock, Esq., of Hawthorn House, llandsworth, Staffordshire, aged 24. EDEN. —On his passage from China to England, for the recovery of his health, Captain Henry Noel Eden, R.A., son of Major-General Eden, aged 26. FULLER. —On the 12th inst., at Holcomb, near Dorking, —Wm. Walter Fuller, Esq., agel 41. 11 AWES,—On the 22d Aug., killed while in command of a detachment of the 19th N. 1., during an outbreak of the prisoners at Mundleisir, Central India, Captain Hawes, eldest son of Sir Benjamin Hawes, K.C.B. LU3ISDEN.—On the sth inst., at Wimbledon-common, Surrey, Henry Lumsden, of Auchindoir, Aberdeenshire, aged 11 years. LOND 3N : Printed and Published by MURDO YOUNG, of No. 112, Strand, Printer, at The Sun Office, No. 112, Strand, in the Precinct of the Savoy, fa the county of Middlesex, Friday, October 14, 1859. for Wa liv ( tra eor'; oPe -____ 0 A. 50