The Sun. — London, England, 1829-03-03 00:00:00

SPIRIT OF THE LONDON JOURNALS. The Duke -of Newcastle- gave rotice last night, that "he should move for a call of the House when ever the Bill for the Relief of the Catholics Was brought up to the Lords. Our description of the Bill is short enougli.but that of Ms Grace was much less simple. He described It as a Bill for oppressing and injuring the King; and, as if this were not wrong enough for the King to suffer, his Grace called ii - pnq his INLjesty, on his own responcibikte, to judge whe' her it wise or fitting, &e. This introduction of the King's responsibility, who is an irresponsible person by the Constitution, is singular enough. However, we must leave this matter, from its ek treme peculiarity. The Duke of Sussex replied to the Duke 31 Newcastle with just and proper spirit. Sir Robert Harry Inglis has addre.setd a letter to the chairman of his two cemmittees at Oxford and in London, which letter, we will presume to say, is worthy alike of the representative and of the majority by which the Hon. Baronet has been an= tabled to sit in Parliament for Oxford. " I vnitle ) " says the Baronet, " the result of the elettion ) IA re cording the high-minded consisteney with which the great majority of the first University in the world has refused to listen to every ordinary and sordid motive of personal interest." .Alack-a-day I the " high-e:inded consistency" of the " passive obe dience" Doctors ! And so they have " refused to listen to every sordid motive of personal interest," —they have listened to . some only, we suppose. In that case, the " sordid motives" which have been so unfairly rejected, ought to feel them , . selves very ill-used, anti indeed have a right of challenge avainst that more favoured class of meanness, by which the Hon. Baronet would infer that the " great majority" of his friends have been actuated. Again, writes the new member of the " most intellectual body in England," his elec tion records it as their opinion, that the Constitution of England " ought to he preterved fundamentally and exclusively Protestant !" Why, when Pros festa.:tism came first into vogue, the same most ins tellectual body were quite as willing to put it on " record," that the Constitution of England ought to be preserved " fundamentally and exclusively Po pish." But, wishing the representative and fhe electors whom he describes as on) , half-governed by sordid motives a happy honey-moon,--for on a much longer duration of domestic harmony between them, he would be rash who reckoned,—we turn to a topic of infinitely higher import than the Oxford election, or the Honourable Baronet, though not quite foreiga to either of them. We conceive it, then, a dety to crush at once all pretence for those alleged hopes which some of the more foolish among the Brunswickers' my S have im bibed within these two or three days from the . rogues who feiglied them, by declaring our posi tive conviction that all the arts and all the base ness of facion have turned to the signal morti fication and discomfiture of their authors. The King's Ministers are to. a man unshaken; the pro mises held out in the King's speech will be-accom plished without failur e er delay; the King's sub jects, who cry for justice, will be relieved; the measure of Catholic adjustment—of civil and-rdi gious liberty—of British wisdom and of Irish peace —will be introduced into the House of Commons next Thursday. That measure will be carried •by ample majorities in both Houses. That measure will satisfy all reasonable and upright minds. It will give largely and secure permanently, and leave incendiaries on both Bides to burn amidst their own faggots. We repeat, the Government is resolved, anti the Parliament and the whole enlightened portion of the people of England are with it. There is nothing to fear—all alarms are childish—all panics despicable. The leaders and dupes of a mischievous and frantic faction have no resource but idle invec tive—no refuge but absolute despair.—lbid. In the House of Lords, last night, the Duke of Wellington exposed very happily the inconsistencies and the affectation of several spiritual and temporal Lords. The Duke of Newcastle, on giving notice that he would move a Call of the House on the night fixed for the introduction of t he measure now in agi tation, observed, in his usual extravagance, that he " should consider the measure as a proposition for oppressing and injuring the King, and subverting the Constitution of the country," and that, " if car ried, it would be a degradation to themselves, and an introduction of Popery and arbitrary power into this country." The Bishop of Bath and Wells, in a speech that bore not a few traces of an imagination heated to an extraordinary high temperature, in which he- would have persuaded his hearers that he had a strong disposition to martyrdom, improved, if that is possible, on the Duke cf Newcastle. The Right Rcv. Prelate, rather unfortunately for him self, descended for a moment from his pathetics to an attempt - at reasoning. " If," said his Lordship, " instead of deliberating upon the terms of Catholic Emancipation, the Government would apply its attention to the improvement of the condi tic') of the people of Ireland, by extending the blessings of education, and placing them higher in the scale of intellectual being—if they did this, and produced such an alteration in their political and social condition as would render it a matter of wisdom and safety to admit the Catholics to political power, then he would gladly give his consent to Eman cipation ; but until that change was produced, he, in common with the people of England, was unwilling to put arms into the hands of those who would pro s bably direct them against the Protestants the first moment they had an opportunity " A little before the Right Rev. Prelate had said, " that as the Ca tholic religion presented it as a duty, so it must be ' the design of those who professed it to subvert our admirable Constitution in Church and State." The Duke of Wellington proved himself, as a logician, rather heavy metal for the poor Bishop. " The Right Rev. Prelate (he remarked) in the course of the observations he addressed to their Lordships, seemed to be willing to grant Catholic Emancipa tion at some future period, when the people of Ire land became more enlightened, and more worthy of political freedom. Now if, according to the creed of the Right Reverend Prelate, Catholic Eman cipation must tend to establish the errors of Popery over the truths of Protestantism, he (the Duke of Wellington) wished to know under what eircemstances of knowledge or of edu cation the Right Reverend Prelate was willing to make the concession—(Hear, hear.) ?—He wished the Right Reverend Prelate to tell him how the en lightening of the minds of the people of Ireland, and the diffusion of wealth and education, could be rendered an excuse for Emancipation, if the inevi table consequences of that Ernancieation must be the propagation of the errors of Popery ?" (Hear.) The poor Bishop was here caught on the horns of a dilemmn,.and his example ought to be a warning to Right Reverend Fathers in God not to meddle with reasoning in those sublime effusions in which they approach the heights of prophecy, and dwell in imagination of the glories of martyrdom. We have heard a sort of .Jesuitical subterfuge from the Me thodists, which the poor Bishop might, if he had been more cunning, have resorted to. They, too, will grant EmancipatiOn to.the Catholics when they are enlightened ; but then they, say under the rose, if ever they are enlightened they will cease to be Catholics--so that there can be no danger in grant ing Catholic Emancipation wheat the Catholics will all have become Protestants. But the Duke, not satisfied with this knock-down blow, told the Bi shop and the Duke of Newcastle, without any ce remony or circumlocution, that " they pretended to entertain fears of the conseqUences of Eman cipation, which every sensible man in the coun try ought to know, and did know, were wholly 1 unfounded." Pretended to entertain ! But, then, ' if they skould not be men of sense, which some people suspect, his Grace Will then admit their im becility, and withdraw the charge of insincerity. His Grace added, . that "he rejoiced most cor dially With the Baverend Prelate in the number of petitions they hatipresented, while they (the people) are ander the apprehensions—apprehensions which, he was sorry to say, had been suggested to them.;-- (Hear, hear)—with regard to the intentions of Lois Majesty's Ministers on this subject," &c. This wits i'..arrying the matter a little too far. It is, at all events, a mortifying spectacle to witness so great a multitude of people in such a deplorable state of prostration of the understanding,as to be carried away by the suggestions alluded to. His Grace thinks too lightly of this, or affects to think too lightly Of it, In his arguments of the benefit which justice to the Catholics would produce to the Protestants, he showed hinsself, hoWeVer, to have a better idea of Protestantism, than those who lay claim to so Much sanctity.--11/orsting C'hroniele. We question if one tithe of the dirty and dis gusting frauds proved tt3 be'Se been practised in getting tip the petitions against further concession to the Catholics, presented this Session, ever took place in all the petitions presented to Parliament, from the beginning of the long Parliament to the present period. The charge of employing disre putable means is fully bottle Wit by the admission of the Mlstsibefa or both Houses, by whom the peti tiohi are presented. Thus, for instance, Mr. Dna combe presented last night a petition from Sheffield, said to be signed by thirty thousand persons. Now Sheffield, as was observed by Mr. Marshall, at the last census, contained a population of fifty thou sand, and yet the petition bore to be signed by thirty thousand admit males. Again, it was stated by Lord Milton, who presented a petition the other night, agreed to at a public meeting, that of 8,000 persons present at the meeting, there were only about forty against the prayer of the petition, which Was signed by upwards of 7,000 persons. The op ponents of concession, conscious of their weakness, thirst not have a public meeting, and their petition originated in a meeting from which all who were unfriendly to the object of it were excluded. And yet those who have had the management of this last petition would wish to persuade Parliament that there are 30,000 signatures to it ! But •mark the subter fuge. Mr. Duncombe, who assured the House that nobody had signed the petition who was under twenty-one years of, age, knew that his thirty thousand adults, in a population of fifty thousand, proved rather too much, and admitted that the pe tition included the environs of Sheffield, to the ex tant of four or five miles. Pet haps Mr. Duncombe might have extended the range to a dozen miles with a safe conscience. However, the object was, no doubt, to create a false impression with respect to the state of feeling in Sheffield. Burke, in his Speech on Economical Reform, gives a ludicrous account of the various characters in which - the King of England meets you throughout the country— " Cross a brook, and you lose the King of England; but you have some comfort in coming again under his Majesty, though shorn of his beams,' and no more than Prince of Wales. Go to the North, and you find him dwindled to a Duke of Lancaster," &c. The people of the towns and villages, who swell the thirty thousand names in Sheffield, will in good time appear as petitioners from their own respective places, and probably the pious rsonages of Sheffield will return the favour by subscribing again in the country. The end justifies the means. " It (the petition) had been got up," said ' Mr. Marshall, " by the Methodist Preachers and the Clergy, whilst the opposite petition had been brought forward in an open Meeting, and hall been signed by seven thousand people. The petition , now presented had been signed by children, the pri soners of gaols, and by vagrant mendicants." What says Mr. - Duncombe to this ? " The petition cer tainly had been sent to the gaol to be signed, but the signatures obtained there had been afterwards struck out." Their conscience, we suppose, was a little enlightened by the animadverainniOn the pm rice of canvassing felons, which have been made in Parliament. It was prudent, no doubt, to strike out the names of the felon-saints ; but what are we to think of the principles of those who send the petition to the gaol ? What would men who could resort to such tricks to deceive Parliament and the country stick at in the way of dishonesty ? A petition from Manchester and Salford, to which, according to General Gascoyne, 22,000 signatures were attached, drew forth some satisfactory expla nations from Sir George Phillips. The township of Manchester contains a population of 250,000, and the petition was the elaborate production of a quarter of a year. " The declaration was got up in November, and signed by 506 Laymen, and 44 of the Clergy, calling upon the opponents of Catholic Emancipation to meet on a certain day. That re quisition was met by a counter-declaration, signed by 431 of the first inhabitants of Manchester for pro perty, education, and independence. It was true there were many respectable names attached to the first declaration ; but in that respect it bore no comparison with the other persons signing, which represented four millions of property. Those who signed the counter decimation, however, took no further steps, but confided in the wisdom of Ministers." "As a proof," he added, " that the petition did not express the sense of the people of Manchester, he miklit mention, that of the two subscription rooms—the Portico and the Exchange — to the former of which were 4,000 subscribers, and to the latter of which all the respectable people in the town resorted, only two persons had subscribed from the first, and only 17 from the last." But if the pious agents of the petition had no success at the Portico and the Exchange, they were not dis heartened on that account. "It hail been hawked," said Sir George, " round the streets by the Church wardens and Vestries, and every effort was made to obtain signatures. On one occasion the Vestry were requested to take the petition to a school where there were upwards of 100 children, but the persons applied to had the good sense to resist that application. On another occasion it was proposed to take the petition to the work-house, for the purpose of obtaining the signatures of the paupers, but this proposal was also very properly resisted. He men tioned these matters, in order to show the kind of agency resorted to, in order to get up such peti tions; and it was not too much to suppose, that in several cases where a proper resistance was not made, such efforts were successful. The petitions had been placed at the doors of Methodist Chapels, and at Turnpike-gates, and boys and miters were asked to sign their names; and in cases• where the parties could not write, other persons signed for them.—(Rear, bear.) And these petitions are to influence the Legislature in a question involving the safety of the empire !—lbid. It has been truly enough observed, that " an in judicious friend is a man's worst enemy." Of these we suspect that Mr. Peel must have had a good many ; and that to them he owes the mortification of defeat under which he is now suffering. There are those who think that his resignation was ill timed—others that it was altogether unnecessary. We are, however, among those who think it was a wise, a just, and heroic act ; such as an honourable mind would dictate, and a .sound judgment act upon. But of the Right Honourable Gentleman's attempt to be immediately re-elected for the same place we do not entertain the same opinion; but look upon it as an act of manifest indiscretion, in which he must have suffered his own better judg ment to have been swayed by the toad-eaters whom men in office have always about them; and whose constant business it is to flatter, and often to mislead, Every man posse/sal of aught to give. That a man of Mr. Peel's understanding should have allowed himself to be the victim of such people's deception,and of his own vanity, is rather ex traordinary. When the Convocation in the proportion of five to one, voted their late petition against the measure which Mr. Peel is about to sanction, what chance could there be that they would, within a few. short weeks, recant an opinion so expressed—or what discretion was there in forcing to so early a test the consistency of those whom Mr. Peel, above all men, should not have exposed to such a dilem ma? There were hundreds of those, we will ven ture to say, that voted against Mr. Peel, who had no wish to do so; and who regretted, as much as he now does, that they were compelled to do so.— But the more painful the task which has been im- posed upon them, the more credit is due to them for performing it; and in performing it they have nbt only justified their own consistency, but have rescued their University from an imputation of subserviency which attaches, but too truly, to another place. Suf fering, as we believe they are, from mortification and self-reproach, we would spare these injudicious advisers of Mr. Peel from the additional pang of many words. But they w( re justly sanguine, it is said ; and why 2 Because, out of 2,500 voters, they had promises from 650, and that was a greater number than carried Mr. Heber's election ; so that the only justification of these persons is, that they were weak enough to consider that a mere personal struggle be tween Mr. Heber and Sir Jahn Nicholl was a fair criterion of the interests the recent struggle would crew e. Such shallow reasoners may be fit enough to form a Committee at Almack's; bur are fit only to be beat, as they have been beat, on any other topic or occasion.—Morning Herald. We intimated yesterday, and we intimated it with the greatest reluctance, that new and unex pected difficulties had arisen in the way of settling the Catholic question—that his Majesty's Ministers had not had that fair play in carrying their ar rangements into effect- which, as the advisers of his Majesty, and the responsible agents of the country, they ought to have enjoyed—and that those who had neither right or title to advise his Majesty, and who had not to answer either to the King or to the country for their conduct, had- taken advantage of the relics of certain prejudices, which it was believed a sterner logic had uprooted, to en d,avour to defeat a measure which was imperiously called for by the grievances and disturbed state of a third part of the empire, and which had been re solved on at great personal sacrifice on all hands. Our information, we believe, is but too correct : and if the Duke of Wellington did not tender his resignation, it is all but certain that he has been pkced in circumstances which left him no other re source but tender ng it or producing a change of opinion in others, where change was least entici pared. It is not in our power to state to our readers the particulars which have led us to form these con clusions ; hat there Are some broad facts within the knowledge of every newspaper reader, which only require to be re-stated and presented in one view, in order to show that the Duke of Wellington has had no ordinary dificulties to contend with, and that the attention of the Cabinet has of late been more devoted to the defeat of intrigues, than to the consideration of questions connected with the permanent welfare of the country. Not a day passed, for example, during the last week, that a Cabinet Council was not held. On Sunday there was another, and yesterday there was another still l• The Ministers assembled yesterday in expectation of being joined by the Duke of Wellington, who had gone on Sunday to Windsor, and from thence to Strathfieldsaye; but no Duke appeared with the re sult of the interview between his Grace and his Ma jesty. On Friday, also his Grace proceeded to Windsor, at an early in a plain travelling car riage, and without any other attendants than the postil,lions who drove his horses. The speed at which he travelled will not, we will venture to say, be readily forgot by those who witnessed it ; and we can bear testimony that his Grace was not anxi ous to be recognized as the tenant of the cariiage. These frequent holdings of Cabinet Councils and consultations with his Majesty, have not, it will be read 4 agreed, been for nought ; and we believe we have furnished above a true version of their meaning. A diligent inquiry, it is said, is now going on at Windsor respecting the authors of the ad vice which has produced such unexpected difficul ties in the way of settling the Catholic Question ; and we have every reason to believe that . the Duke of Wellington is not only possessed of sufficient sa gacity to detect them, but that his firmness will succeed in defeating the plots which have been con trived against him. The result, however, is still doubtful, and until the Bill for the Emancipation of the Catholics, has not only passed both Houses of Parliament, but received the Royal Assent, we shall not feel that assurance which we would gladly communicate to our readers, that intrigue has not been more powerful than wisdom, and plot and prejudice than honesty and fair dealing.—Morn inp, Advertiser. SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE• LIVERPOOL. SUNDAY, MARCH I..—Wind S. to S.S.E.—lligh water 19 minutes past seven.—Arrived the Comet, Phillips, from Dublin ; George Sinclair, ----, from Dublin ; Hazard, Chace, from Savannah ; Caledonia Packet, , from Faro; Melantho, ---, from London. Vessels off—Tallahasse, from Savannah ; Edward Downes, Savannah ; Robin Hood, Savapnah ; Mon trose, Demerara ; Fame, Virginia; Betty, Macaio ; Wel come, Calcutta. Sailed—William, Sanders, for Buenos Ayres; Roman, Gurrell, for l'ew York; Brunswick, ---, for Vir ginia ; Amelia, -, for Genoa; Science, Chase, for New York. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. BO W.STB EEL Several notorious pickpockets were brought up last night before Sir R. BIRNIE, charged with attempting to lighten the pockets of various individual+ in front of St. Martin's Church yesterday, on the occasion of the Welch charity children be:ng paraded there for the purpose of attending divine service. One of the accused was a fashionably-dressed genteel looking young man, whose name it appears is George Kimmia. He is an artist by profession, and might have followed his studies with credit and advantage to himself and family, but that be formed had connections and ulti mately became known to the Police as one of the " swell mob," that is, one of the gang of gentlemen thieves, who are always to be found professionally attending theatres, race-courses, boat-races, and boxing matches. He was recognized by Wheatley and Craig, two of the patrol, pay ing great attention to an old lady in the crowd before St. Martin's Church, and at the moment of his a pprehension his hand was found sliding into her pocket, no doubt for the benevolent purpose of securing whatever property she might have had about her, to protect it from less bonest hinds. He was committed in default of bail. A tall athletic young fellow, whose name it appears is 'Lomas, and who formerly kept a baker's shop in Bermond sey-street, was also charged with attempting to pick pockets at the same place. The attempt was accompanied by a desperate assault upon a gentleman named Horatio Thomas Byers, and two ladies, by whom he was accom panied. It appealed, that as the crowd was quitting the church, the prisoner, and several other " swell thieves," made a rush towards the steps, in consequence'of which Mr. Byers, his two female friends, and several other re spectable individuals, were thrown down. The move ment, of course, was made with no other view than to plunder those who had fallen. Mr. Byers having per ceived the prisoner most active in creating the confusion, and not being aware of his calling, remonstrated with him as soon as he arose from the ground. The priwnerim mediately struck him a desperate blow upon the face, which completely discoloured one side of it. He was then taken into custody, and Sir li. 13110;1E, on proof being given that he was a thief, ordered him to be fully committed to Newgnte, to take his trial for an assault with attempt to rob. The next fellow who was brought forward is also nne of the " swell mob." His name is Smith, but he is better known by the cognomen of " the Marquis." He was charged by Fagan with attempting to pick pockets, under similar circumstances as those above describell. He was committed to prison in default of bail. Five other thieves were taken into custody at the same place, and committed also. MELANCHOLY VASE.—Yesterday evening an Inquest was held on the body of Elizabeth Joyce, aged 30. The deceased was the daughter of respectable per sons, but latterly had lived a most abandoned life ; and at the time of the trtnsaction which led to her death was living with a drover, in Cow-cross. On the 16th ult. she was in company N i V n it c h le a rk w e r we a i n i ;name the y w S er id e do b n o s th , the wifeora tc in toxicated, w an a da liu ft: being a r nt Siddons's lodgings, where a quarrel took place between the deceased and the woman Siddons, and the former was thrown down a ladder, and the injuries she then received caused her death.--The Jury returned a verdict of Man slaughter against Siddons, and she was committed to Newgat* TO SIR PETER LAURIE, KNIGHT AND ALDERMAN. WORTHY SIR PETER,—There is one point on which you bnd I are agreed—heartily agreed— would that you were a Baronet, and not a nice City Knight ! Only think, Sir Peter, of the awful dilemma in which I am placed, compelled either to address a City Knight or to allow, some most spe cial nonsense to go without any reply.—All I say is, would you were a Baronet ! !! To you, Sir Peter, who are, I am told, a wealthy and a worthy man, it may seem strange that I should deem it an imperative duty to notice the nonsense of Aldermen anti" such like little deer," as Shako , peare has it. Nonsense and hatred of Popery, and of the horns of the Pore, and, above all, and before all, of the wild Irish Popish Priests—all this has, time out of mind, been the privilege and prerogative of a certain class of non-thinkers in England. You,. therefore, u plain matter-of-fact man as you are, must be greatly astonished to find me become so sensitive on these trite subjects as to be under the absolute necessity of discharging this dignified, but familiar, epistle at your head, on the subject of the Meeting of the Corporation of London held on Thursday last. Before I proceed let me tell you a small anecdote, which I borrow from a grave and very religious per sonage who has lately published his life, Mr. Thomas Townsend, Editor of a most loyal and Protestant Paper, the Cork Constitution—what a portentous name, the Cork Constitution! ! ! " I remember," says this pious man,- " when I was young, ray two grand-uncles, Alderman Tom Evanson and Alder man Dick Harris, after drinking their wine and smoking their pipes, with devout gravity, for four long hours in solemn silence, to have broken out into the following dialogue : " Alderman Dick," said Mr. Evanson, " I hate these vile Papists, but curse me if I know the reason why !" <iAlderman Tom," replied his friend, " I hate them also, for precisely the same reason ! ! I" Now, Sir Peter, I respectfully submit to you that it would be difficult to reason either Worthy Alder man out of his opinion. But the times are changed, Al,l,Tmen are not all alike. " The Schoolmaster is abroad," the march of intellect is, I understand, beat on the drums of the Grenadier Guards in the room of " The King of Prussia's March." It is even credibly reported that an eatire syllogism has found its way, unbroken, into dna Bestia of Penen den Heath, and that the process of ratiocination has actually appeared above ground in_ the vicinity of Exeter. The times are indeed changed. Accdrdingly the Corporation of London have, by a majority of very near two to one, declared in favour of common sense—of freedom of con science—of the pacification of Ireland—of the strength and security of the entire British empire. Allow me, in sober seriousness, and with the most respectful gratitude, to thank the honest, the able, and the truly Christian men who composed that glorious majority. The display of talent on that occasion would have done credit to any assembly ; and the kind and benevolent disposition evinced try the various speakers affords a proof how ea s y it would be to amalgamate all classes of Christians into one undivided and dutiful body of subjects, if they were not forcibly kept asunder by the bad policy of bad laws, made for had purposes by men who had religion on their lips, and selfish interests in their hearts. This decision of the Corporation of London will ever live in the grateful recollection of the people of Ireland. But my present business, Sir Peter, is with the opponents of the measure; with those who desired that our evils should remain unredressed, that our exclusion should be perpetual. I mean, in perfect good humour, to canvass all that I can collect on the reasons of our adversaries, and, amongst them, of your's; and if you really be, Sir Peter, the honest man I am told you are, I do not despair of making you yet a convert to that daring principle of my public life—that conscience should be free, and that every man should be allowed to worship that God who shall judge us all, without being punished by pains, penalties, or privations, for the sincerity of his conscientious belief. This principle' has, in my mind, no limits or qualifications. I hope that you will yet become a convert to it, and, although you may bring to its support all the warm zeal. of a convert, you will never advocate it with more sincerity than I have always contended for liberty of conscience for all classes of Christians all over the globe. In order to aid in your conversion, I request of you to consider the answers I shall give to the ar guments urged against religious liberty, by you and your colleagues, at the late Meeting. I take those arguments as I find them in the Morning Chronicle. The first of our antagonists was Mr. Savage, a most unpropitious name, but one so obnoxious to a pun, that any man must have the heart of a savage who could jest at his cognomen. Two arguments against 'Catholic Emancipation are attributed to Mr. Savage. They are these : First—That the only object of the Catholics is to supersede the Established Religion, in order to place one of the Stuart family on the Throne ; and— Secondly—That the Catholics sustain no injuries from the Penal Laws against them, because they have only to take the same oaths that P - rotestants take, and thus they are emancipated at once. In plain truth, Mr. Savage is very ignorant of ethics and of history—of history, otherwise he should know that there never was a race of men more de tested and despised by the Catholics of Ireland than the Stuart family. lie is ignorant that no family ever inflicted so much permanent mischief on say country as the Stuart family inflicted on Ireland. He is ignorant that the Irish were plundered of their properties, persecuted in their persons, and swindled in their civil rights in the reign of the first James. He is ignorant of the atrocious and (one may call them from their extent) magnificent robberies com mitted on the Irish Nobility and Gentry during the earlier parts of the reign of the first Charles. Has he never heard of the atrocities of the Earl of Staf ford—the " black Tom" of Irish Legends—whom the Irish peasant to this day shudders, at as almost an incarnation of the demon ? He is ignorant how the Catholics were deluded and betrayed by " the Royal Martyr" during the Cromwellian rebellion. He is ignorant of the knavish cruelty by which the estates of the Irish Catholics, who died in defence of the throne of that martyr, were transferred by. his son to the murderers of his father. He is ignorant that James the Second personally shared in the plunder of the Irish Catholic Royalists. He took his share, no less than eighty thousand acres, of the forfeited estates of the Irish Catholics—forfeited for no other reason than that they adhered to his father's cause. He is ignorant that when the Irish Cabo lies raised and clothed and armed at their own ex pellee, for James the Second,. 50,000 men out ofiiia population not exceeding one million, the paltry crea ture ran away during the first battle, and, next ac tually gave the command of the Irish forces to a foreigner—a Frenchman—and saved his own person by an ignominious flight from Ireland. Supersede the Established Church in order to place one of the Stuart family on the throne ! Why, Sir Peter, we would not supersede a pig-stye to place the Stuart family on all the thrones in the world!! Besides, Mr. Savage should know that Irish Ca tholics of all classes, Nobility, Gentry, and Laity, take, and take readily and cheerfully, the oaths of allegiance and abjuration—allegiance to the illustri ous family on the throne—abjuration of any allegi ance or fealty to the Stuart family. Why, our oath of abjuration is rather more strongly worded than the oath taken by Protestants ; and, if Mr. Sa vage can invent any stronger terms in•en oath to rib. jure the Stuart family, why, we consent that the stronger terms should be substituted. • I mean you, Sir Peter, no disrespect;' but I should really be glad to know whether the case which aurroundt your brain be made of penetrable stuff. If it be, Sir Peter, attend. just to this rea soning. The Catholics are excluded from all offices by no ether means than by requiring, as a qualification, the taking of certain oaths. If the Catholics took these oaths, they would be admissible to all offices. But they prefer exclusion and degradation to taking these oaths, because they cannot conscientiously take them. Now does it not follow, as clearly as that the sun shines at noon-day, that the Catholics respect the sacred obligation of an oath when they thus prefer to remain ru a degrading and insulting, and most injurious inferiority in their native land, rather than sully their souls with an oath to which their con sciences cannot assent ? Is not this a most satisfac tory, and indeed conclusive proof, of the respect we bear to the sanctity of an oath ? One step further, Sir Peter, if you please. You have arrived with me at this conclusion, that the Catholic body practically proves its inviolable re spect for an oath. Recollect, now, that we who thus respect the sanctity of an oath, readily take the oath of allegiance to the Royal Family on the Throne; and the oath of abjuration of the Stuart family. You have too much discrithination not to see that we are entitled to perfect confidence in the oaths which we do thus take. You easily perceive how very fertile is the first objection of Mr. Savage. We deteSt, and despise, and abjure upon oath the Stuart family. Let him rest in perfect security on that point. His second objection is a curious one. He ob jects—that we have only to take the oaths Protes tants take, and then the grievance is at an end. What ! would it be no grievance in his opinion to commit perjury ? A Catholic believes in the doc trine of transubstantiation.. Now all that Mr. Savage requires is that he shbuld swear that such doctrine is impious and idolatrous—that is all. Just swear, says he; that you are an idolator. Surely, cries Mr. Savage, no reasonable man Would con sider that a grievance !! See, Sir Peter, how light your worthy colleague makes of rank perjury. I sould be glad to know whether Mr. Savage would consider it no hardship upon him if he were placed in this situation. Suppose.he were a native of a country in which a Catholic Government acted by Protestants as our Protestant Government acts towards Catholics, and that he found he could not be Lord Mayor or Sheriff, or Alderman or Common- Councilman, or vote at an Election—that he could, in fine, have no share in the framing or in the ad ministrating. the lawc, unless he should swear that he believed in the doctrines of the Church of Rome —would he not be rather angry with any Catholic who told him that it was no hardship at all ; it re quired for its cure nothing but a perjury ; and that he had only to perjure- himself, and he then would hare nothing to complain of? I pass willingly from Mr. Savage to the second of the antagonists of the Catholics, Mr. Bousfield. He is, I presume, a respectable person. He is also, lam told, an attorney. One is, therefore, not at all surprised at t he extreme delicacy of his conscien tious and scrupulous attention to the purity of re ligion. I hope I shall, be able to do away soma part of his religious fears. I promise him to answer any arguments he may advance against the Catholics. His objections appear to be these— First—That my friend Mr. Sheil and myself are demagogues, and itinerant mountebanks, and unfit for Parliament. Secondly—That it is absurd to suppose tha Shell and O'Connell care one straw for the seven millions of Irish people. Thirdly—That Mr. O'Connell, who, with his usual impudence, calls himself the Representative of seven millions of people, prostrated himself in the town of Ennis before the Roman Catholic Priest hood, which was superstition in the worst sense. Fourthly—That Charles the First and Charles the. Second were Catholics in their hearts, and be longed rather to Catholic than to Protestant history. Fifthly—That nothing would satisfy the Catho lics but entire and undivided power; and, Sixthly—That, though the Catholics may be changed, yet that the Catholic Religion was the same now that it ever had been. Such being the sum and substance of Mr. Bous field's objections, I proceed to notice, in a profes sional fashion, all these difficulties, just as I would if Mr. Bousfield had been employed to submit them to me as his Counsel. I make but one preliminary remark—that Mr. Bousfield is not civil. He, how ever, I suppose, makes up in sincerity for his defect in politeness ; at all events, it is no part of my duty to turn dancing-master to grown gentlemen; and, therefore, I leave Mr. Bousfield in full possession of all his rudeness. I reply to him thus : To the first—Mr. Sheil and I are, I believe, de magogues, in the original meaning of the word ; but that is Greek to 111 r. Bousfield. I, therefore, ad mit the name—but I deny that we are itinerant mountebanks—we are as little itinerant, and as much stationary, as possible, and are not mountebanks at all, being regular practitioners both in law and po litics; and as to our unfitness fur Parliament, there really are not so many brilliant stars there that my friend and I should veil our heads before them. But, suppose we were all this polite gentleman calls us, that would be no reason why the Catholics should not be emancipated ; on the contrary, it would be an additional argument to prove that the disordered situation of public affairs should be taken out of the hands of mountebanks and empirics, and committed to the legitimate physicians of the State, to prescribe for it the unfailing lenitives of wise and salutary concession and cordial conciliation. To the second I do assure Mr. Bousfield he is mistaken. Mr. Shell, and I care for the Irish people more than ten thousand straws. In fact, more than sufficient straws to compose all the scare-crows which the tithe-consuming Parsons of England are now setting up to terrify honest, but gullible John Bull out of his seven senses—bless the mark. I wish Mr. Bousfield a happy delivery, now he is in the straw .Te the third—As to my impudence, it is entirely at Mr. Bousfield's service; but as to my represen tative capacity there may be more modesty, because more truth, in asserting than in denying that I re present the wants and wishes, and possess the affec tions of seven millions pf as. fine a people as are to be found on this terraqueous globe. But, passing that by, I proceed to the direct charge made against me by Mr. Bousfield. He says that I prostrated myself at Ennis before the Roman Catholic Priesthood. I say that the charge is totally false; I do not ac cuse Mr. Bousfield of being the inventor of this falsehood, but, whoever invented it, I assure him and you, Sir Peter, and the public, that it is totally false. I never prostrated myself at Ennis, or any where else, before the Catholic Priesthood, or any one or more of the Catholic clergy. I never prostrated myself before created man, and never will. Ikly temper, disposition, and judgment, all concur to pro hibit my being guilty of such debasetnent ; and, if I were inclined to such guilt, I do solemnly assure you I do not' know any one of the Catholic Clergy in Ireland who would suffer me to prostrate m yself before him—not one. I never prostrate myself before any being save that eternal and ever-living God, before Whose awful tribunal Mr. Bousfield and you, Sir Peter, and I, shall one day most assuredly stand, and before whom we must answer for every thought, word, and action of our lives. I never prostrate, myself save before that God in whose written word I am told, ,‘ if I should have all faith, so that I could remove moun tains, and have not charity, I am nothing." Such is the superstition which I fondly cherish. If there be in it any arguments against Emancipa tion, I cheerfully abide the result. It may be worth while here, Sir Peter, to apprise you of a matter of fact. My return for Clare has been attributed to the Catholic Clergy, The fact is this—mark, Sir Peter :—the Catholic Bishop—a venerable and ancient gentleman, of the 'highest moral worth, and having a considerable fortune of his own, was in the adverse interest to mine—all his relations—all those who have a right to inhetit,b4 fortune, voted against me; his nephew, a Catholif attorney, was one of the most active, arid, certaialp b,yond any comparison, the most useful and, efficien t of the agents of Mr. Vesey The - Pari ° priest of the very town itself—Ennis—who is the Dean of the diocese, arid is not only a polished pli d accomplished scholar, but a most pious and excol plary divine, and a particular friend.of mine, not otillr discountenanced my pretensions, but actually left 1 11 ° , town during the entire election, because his oilers to a man voted for me, totally regardless of al; the influence in spirituals which lie possessed au deserved. I must close this my first epistle. Would I could do any thing to enliven the dulness of that higotti which now, in my humble opinion, disgraces and de' grades this country ! Believe me, Sir Peter, that the day will soon rive when the great majority of Protestants concur in the conviction already entertained by till great majority of Catholics—:hat human lases shoot° be confined to the regulations of actions, and tbst they should never attempt to controul opinions , that human laws should punish crimes, but is in it' self criminal when it attempts to punish creeds. Let conscience be free, and truth will prevail. Join with me in these sentiments, Sir Peter, oral least meditate upon them, until 1 can take .up 0 1 ' 5 subject in my second letter.—l am, in perfect go' humour, Sir Peter, your obedient servant, DANIEL O'CONNELL. LONDON MARKETS. PICE OF EAD. The highest price o f Bread in ß th ß e Metropolis is lid. fm ' Sib. Loaf. There arc others who sell from ;4d. to UV. halo hat price. PRICE OF SEEDS.—March 2. New Englishßed Clover Seed (per Cwt.) Ma. 50s. Old Ditto Ditto--. - —s. New Foreign Ditto Old Ditto New White Clover--- Old Ditto Ditto New Trefoil Old Ditto fine 5111. - fine -6. - -4 " -50 s. 60s five 656. %C . ' 306. 40s. fine 506. 655• -40 s. 50s. fine 606. /O. 606. 7Q fine 8.56. 1;0 0 ' 14x. 246. fine 30s. 344 •••••••••••••• •-•6. -s. fine 40' 38s. 41s. fine -.4. 416. 465. fin B -- 4 ...S. -11. •--8. 6110 • -s. 17s. Ilse 9* --6. Mkt ... I 156. 406. new _ 4os. 50s. new , ••••••••••••.. -s. 38s. fine --s• -6. 41s. 425. fine..'"*.a., 456. fine w"_ -s. fine • .0.4, Rib Grass English Carrarray Foreign Ditto —. Coriander St. Foin Rye Grass Pacey Ditto --. Linseed, for feeding Ditto, for crushing — Canary Seed, New... Ditto old - White Mustard Seed —(per Bushel)...-- - Os. 6s. is. 6d. fine d- - Brown Ditto .------ , —5. Bs. 10s. tint •-"'" Turnip Seeds. Rounds --i --I. 10s. tine -' 4l ',. Green and nett Ditto -s. As. 12s. tine ... 4 r 'f -. 1 area, Old. . —6. 345. 4 06 : fine —l, Ditto New Rate Seed, English, tine (per Last) 301. 3'21.71... —4.Fore6iig'en n 1: 4.0;?... PRICES OF HOPS.—Match S. Kent Pockets 4l. 0:. 51. ss. 10 51 6.• Sussex Ditto Essex Ditto... 4l. Os. 51. Os. to 61. '' v",, Farnham Ditto, Fine O/. Os. 81 . Os. to 01. „, Seconds .......w. Ol. Os. 61. lOs to 81 . v"' Kent 'Zags ......, 3/. 154. 51. ti s . t o W. 16 4- Sussex Ditto Essex Ditto .... 4/. Os. 4/. 15s to 5 1 - ;7, WHITECH A PEL HAY Aaick: r.—Feb. 28. od. Hay 455. (xi. to BOs. Od. I (lover 50s. Od. to Iv.' Straw SiB.. Od. to 365. Od. PRICE OF on.. Rape Oil, brown 471. Cc Refined Linseed Oil 11 la Linseed Oil Cake at the Mill, per thousand 5:/ /e Rape Cake, per ton - PRICE OF POTATOFS.—March S. Marsh Champions 3l. la's, to 31. 150. Per O n ' Kidneys ..... 01. Os. to 51. Os. ditto. Scotch Iteds —.—.—......----. 31. ss. to 51. 15s. ditto. • Oxnobles and Shaws —.--.. Si. Os. to 31. 3s. ditto. ,„..0 PRICES OF LEATHER.' d. to d. Per lb. d. to (1 4 19 20 Tanned Horse Hides.. 16 22 23 SpAnishDitto 22 ." 14 17 Per dozen. 17 21 Caif Skint..B6 to 4Gib. 19 0 14j lei Dilto 50 to 701 b. 24 V ltij 19 Ditto 70 to SOW. n 0 19 21 •Small Seals, Greenland 21 Per 111 Butts 50 to 561 b... Ditto --60 to rkilb.— Dressing Hides Fine Coach I.lidee Crop Hides, 35 to 401 b. to 501 b. Ditto _ RAW HIDES. 4, Per Stone. s. A. to s. d. I Per Stone, s. d. tot. A Best Ileitars & Steers 3 0 3 4 Ordlnuy 110 9 Middling 6 8 8 Indmket COAL MARI Adair's Beaumont 29 0 .ET.—March 2. ik Wall's End Hotspur 3 06 * o Ditto Crandington......4 6 Ditto tlilda 31 :,, Ditto „- Ditto Not,thumberltutd 31 ". Ditto Perkins and • Co. 30 Dittolliddt ll'a . 33 0 Ditto Russell's 33 Neshani Russell's Lyon's ' 1 A' Walls Fud Walls End Lambton Walls End Ste Wart's Cowpeu 1, Hartley 31• Warde's Llanolly 9 ,5 0 Tantleld Trader. • 3 4 ' 4:l'' ips sold, 33%,.......un50id, 12. Mallon Boundary Floor 28 5 Charlotte Garesfield Heaton Holywell _ 31 0 Pelaw Pontop Windsor 30 0 Tanfield _ 34, 0 30 9 Willington Wylam . 31 0 WallgEndßewicke&Co. 38 6 Ditto Belt Robson & Co. 32 6 Ditto Carr antlCo 27 6 Ditto Clarke and Co. —3O 0 Slops at market, 53)5i—Sh :RISH M Wheat, I Barley. per barrel per barrel 20 stone. 16 stone. ARKETS. Oats. Flour, per cw r " per barrel 14 stove. Ist. • , 0 12 0-I' 4 0' 0 0. - „n"" 0 010 0 12 0.- 315 0. 0 0 Cork Limerick Waterford j Clonmel —I Marlow s.d.as.d. a.d.as.d. 25 0-33.0 12 0-18 0 1 35 0-40 0 10 6-20 0 2125 0-34 0 10 0.1601 13 00-36 0 17 0-19 01 129 6-34 9 12 0-19 0, B. d. a a. d. 6 0-15 0 110 4-13 0 s 0--1 4 0 12 8-14 0 120— 00 is. d. as. d. 121 0--25 16 6-24 I 23 0-24 I 20 0-25 120 6-21 Carlow —129 o—lt 9112 0-19 OS 0-- 0 0120 6--21 0 0 tIL- - Beef, Mutton,' Pork, Butter . per lb. per lb. per cwt. lat. 2d. rd.s. d. iitfir dad .1. ad.l s. .1. a5.d. 9 .d.8. d. a. d ; tn't Cork Limerick— Waterford Clonmcl Carlow—. id. a '5 3 ,; l b ' .......< a. d. s. 6- i• 41 0 56 0 48 0 42 0 51 0 46 0 '.- 0 66 0 56 0 ',5 0 60 0 58 0 '" 0 60 0 5 0 °:::-.• d. d. a d. Is. d. a s. •7 4 —6 29 0 —3O 073 .514 51 34) 0-35 069 0 .5 5 —6 30 0-39 078 0 • 4 4 —330-390730, •510 0 00— 0075 0 KILKENNY MARKET, FEB. 25.—Butter, 775. to 778 % per cwt. ; Bacon Pigs, 355. to 365.. per ditto; 265. to 30s. per barrel; Barley, Iss. to 16s. ; Oats, 9s , 11 s. ; Flour, 20s. to 445. per bag ; Beef and Alnttott_ 9s" to sid. per lb. ; Potatoes, Od. to 2d. per atone ; , Is 2d. per cwt. 'CH M Barley. ,RKETS. Oats. Wheal. Aberdeen —. Berwiek---.. Coldstream Cupar ......-- Dundee-- Elgin.-- I nverness--. Kelso .......—. II Kirkaldy— 1 Perth .......... 1 11, - - The size 56 70 27 4,5 48 25 47 49 27 70 80 :'5 - 76- 62 70 21 GO 70 26 el l l 5° 4 '72 I 60 76 of the m, 24 26 31 33 23 25 a.sure vari 18 24 19 19 18 81 24 27 18 20 20 25 17 20 20 27 16 10 ies throve BIRTHS. On the Ist instant, at Chacombe Priory, Northampt° l)° , shire, the lady of H. J. -Pye, Esq., of a daughter. On the Ist instant, the lady of Mr. It F. NeWman, AN i tillery.place, of a daughters On the let instant, at Sidmouth, Mrs. Charles of On the Qd instant, the lady of W. C. L. Keene, VW' of a son. On the 28th ult., at the Vicarage, Ivingbee, Bucks, fist/ lady of the Rev. Jobn Rich, of a son. MARRIED, On the 241 instant, at St. James's, by the Rev. T. ‘" Wigram, Edward Stodart, Esq., surgeon, of Upper' teT race, Kentish-town, to Janet Liston, youngest daughter 0 . William Stodarf,Esq., of Golden-square. On the 24th ult., by the Rev. James Arthur, at Lou' deswell, the Rev. C. G. Owen, rector of DoclbroOke, in °II. county of Devon, to Susan Harrington, eldest daughter ,°; the late Thomas Burnard, Esq., of Bideford: •,, 1 . ' On the 28th tilt. John Johnston, Esq., of Svraffhankl. Marianne; second (laughter of the Rev. G. Mattin,"ofEo Winslow, Lincolnshire. DIED. ,t o On the 19th ult., at Seaforth Houge, near Liyerp oi Anne Mackenzie, eldest daughter of JOhn Gladstone, 111 r ' l4 A,; i On the 2d instant, after along and painful'illn‘4‘'- - Mary Augusta, the eldest daughter of George ReveleyjAtfr. Queen-square, Bloomsbury. On the Ist instanf, at school, of a fever, aged, .1,0 yrl and 10 months, Rupettiti Hill Bowen, eldest daughter ° John Bowen, Esq., Dartmouth-row, Blackheath..; On the 26th ult , aged 72, Sarah, wife of Mr. EDW .. Day, Hornsey-road. 1 ,On the Ist instant, aged 59, Ann, wife of Mr. R.. kil l " Westley, after a few hours' illness. . On the Ist instant, aged 70, Mr. John Lee, King-streo Covent-garden. • . . ; On the 27th ult., aged 7 2 , Mr. John Parry, Holley, street, Cavendish-square. • • • At Edinburgh, Captain John Paterson, late of the troll" , East India Cismpany's service, Bengal, to Ann, need.' daughter of William Howison, writer:, Edinburgh. 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