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TIIPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HirSE OF - LORDS.—(LAST NIGHT.) The LORD CHANCELLOR entered the Houee at a few minutes before four o'clock. The new Bishop of Chester (Dr. Sumner) was intro duced by the Bishops of London and Winchester, with the usual formalities, after which he took the oaths and his seat.—The House then adjourned during pleasure. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Wools.ick at five minutes pest five o'clock. I lie Earl of SHAFTESBURY read his Majesty's An swer., to the Address, expressive of his Majesty's firm re liance on his Parliament in doing every thing that would lead to the happiness of his people. The Bishop of EXETER presented petitions from the inhabitants of the city of Exeter, from Stanton in De vonshire, and from a parish in Cornwall, against further concessions to the Roman Catholics. The Earl of WINCHELSEA gave notice, that on Fri day he should present a petition from the inhabitants of the county of Kent ageint further concessions to the Ro man Catholics. In giving this notice he begged to ask the Noble Duke opposite (Wellington), when it was his intention to present a petition in his hands, signed by 10,000 inhaintants in the neighbourhood of Bolton-le- Moor. Perhaps, as it was not now consistent with his pre sent views, he would feel some delicacy in presenting it. The Duke of WELLINGTON begged to state to their Lordships, in answer to questions put to him, that he should now present that petition. His Grace then pre sented it, together with others from the Presbytery of Lanark, and the inhabitants of Kingston-upon-Hull, pray ing for no concession to the Roman Catholics. He also presented a petition from the Roman Catholics of the City of Edinburgh, praying a repeal of the laws affecting them. The Earl of ELDON presented petitions from the in habitants of Kingston-upon-Hull, the town and neigh bourhood of Newry, from a parish in 'Warwickshire, from :Newark, from the hundred of Stratton, from Cardiean shire, Brecknockshire, }lintellire, and Denbigh, two from parishes in Yorkshire, from the Dean and Chapter of the Holy Trinity Church in Gloucester, from Ripon in York shire, from Newport Pagnell, from the Corporation of Wal lingford, from the Archdeaconry of Sudbury and by 110 clergymen, all against Catholic Emancipation. Lord HOLLAND presented a petition from certain Pro testant Dissenters in South Shields, praying for a repeal of all laws imposing political disabilities for religions tenets. The petitioners were a ll Protestants, and belonged chiefly to that body known by the name of Protestant Dissenters— to that loyal and enlightened body, in whose favour their Lordships had, last session, performed an act of well-me rited, though tardy justice. It must be satisfactory to their Lordships, who had done so much good towards the peti tioners, to hear that good gratefully acknowledged ; and it !inlet be gratifying to the advocates of the Dissenters to learn, that their clients did not stop at the redress of their own grievances, but were zealous in the endeavour to par ticipate their own political advantages with all classes of the community, without any religious distinctions. But in praying for the extension of the blessings of civil and reli gious liberty to their fellow-subjects of every persuasion, he thought he did not gio too far in saying, that they pointed particularly at their Roman Catholic brethren as most fit objects fur their Lordships' liberality and justice. And, considering the nature of the petition, and the instructions he received with it, he was certain lie did not depart from the course of their Lordships' proceedings, nor fall under the admonition of the Noble and Learned Lord (Eldon) who had just presented so many petitions of an opposite tendency to their Lordship, by expressing his own satin • faction with the conduct and sentiments of the petitioners, o l d his own conviction that such were the sentiments of the Protestant Dissenters as a body. He was happy that ineasuren which he had had the honour some 25 or 30 years ago to recommend in the other House of Parliament, were at length stoma to be brought forward by those whom he considered the most fitting instruments of their suc repo Shire that time he had contended, year after year, in favour of the era: principles of civil and religious liberty; but the day has at ;engtb COKaft when their Lordships have conformed with his vieW, try taking the great question of Catholic Emancipatiod into ter seisiotie consideration. He was sure that the glad intellicr,":lt`e was a source of the greatest satisfaction to every cumou:dde and enlightened mind in the empire, as the measure its.' 4 4 he was sure, would be a sourced tranquillity and prosperitytd the empire, The Earl of ELDON was perfectly satisfied that Noble Lords were not aware of what they were doing last ses sion. Some thought that the Protestant Dissenters, if they got the relief they prayed for, would net interferio at all in respect to others, but the Committee which managed their affairs, had actually advertised in the roost of the public papers, that they were willing to join any persons in petitioning for the removal of all Religious and Civil dis abilities. This was whit never would have been expected. It was absolutely necessary that there should be ail Eccle siastical Establishment connected with every State. That fact had 'lever been thought of till the moment the Go- I vernment was likely to have it. Let those with whom the Noble Lord had been labouring all his life advocate the measure, but till the moment of his death would lie sop- port it. Lord HOLLAND felt it necessary to say that the Dis senters whom he represented on this ass;eaLon had been uniform in their conduct and views. He knew nothing of the advertisement alluded to by the Noble and Learned Lord, but he thought it due to the Protestant Dieseotess to state that their wide advocacy of the great principles of civil and religious liberty was perfectly consistent with their conduct and opinions before and after the repeal of the Test and Corporation Act. The Noble Lord tiatn pre sented petitions in favour of the Catholic Claims, from the Unitarian Dissenters of the town and neighbourhood of Great Yarmouth, the Unitarians of a parish in the county of Lancaster, and from the inhabitants of Wymerley. The Bishop of BRISTOL presented a petition from the persons assembling in the Church of All Saints, Bristol, and Branstown, Somersetshire, against further eone,ezeions to the Catholics. The Bishop of BATH and WELLS was decidedly of opinion that no further degree of political power could be granted to the Roman Catholics without endangering the State and the Protestant Establishment of this country. The petitions he had to present were very numerous, and very respectfully worded, therefore he hoped the House would hear them with ail the respect lie conehlered due to them. The petitions were against further concessions, and from the inhabitants of Bath, and various parishes in Romertaetsh i re. Ti,,e Duke of BEAUFORT presented petitions against the Cath elk Claims from parishes in Glonesestershire. The BistOrt of DURHAM said, he would take advantage of the occasion of presenting a similar petition fennt a parish in Durhasn, to state that his opinions on the policy of opposing the ados;ssion of the Unman Catholics to a full share of the benefits 0 :: the Constitution were unchanged ; and that he was convince:, after the ntati a reat deliberation, that the Catholic religion, by its very tratitp, precluded its professors from affording'a satisfactory sectir:ity in a Protestant state. He was anxious to give this public is pression of his deliberate opinions, for it had been lately in silliouely rumoured that he had become an advocate of con cession to the Roman Catholics.—(Hear, hear.; The Duke of RICHMOND in presenting a petition against concessions to the Catholics, declared that the won derful disclosures of the past week had in no way altered his opinions, and therefore he had great satisfaction in pre senting his petition. The Duke of NEWCASTLE understood the Noble Duke opposite (Wellington) to have stated, that he ad vised hi. Majesty to make the the communication he last week did, on the ground of its being the wish of the coun try at large, the measure proposed should be intended ; but he believed it would now be very speedily ascertained, that not wily was it not the sense of the country at large, but that there would he triumphantly shown a power decidedly hostile to the adoption of any such step. The Noble Duke then presented:petitions against further conteselons from. numerous parishes in the county of Not tingham. In presenting a petition to the same effect from the in habitants of a parish, the name of whic:i we did not collect, the Noble Duke adverted to the circumstieraee of the peti tioner* conceiving, acrd perhaps not unjustly, that their sentinsente with respect to the Roman Catholic eta sots were in unison with thaw enteetained by the majority set the people of England upon that subject. Lord HOLLAND could not admit dist the inkibitante of the parish of expressed the opiolooa of the people of England relative to Catholic emancipation. were certainly very far from coiatiling with the eentimesiSis of the majority of the representatives of the people in Parlia ment. He was old enough to remenel s er the existence of an opinion once very prevalent, that the aeosval of a dif ference of sentiment between the people and the House of Commons was little short of treason on the part of ant former. He had never been of that opiu:ssn himself ; on the contrary, he had always stood up tor, and should ever defend, the right of the subject to petition the Legislature s t ai ,a sacred anti inalienable privilege. But when told that this parish, or that village, represented the sensesof flee eountry in their petitions, lie must refuse his assent to the pa-oposition. Considering the mode in whicli some petitions to Parliament were gotten up, the assumption Miss rather ludicrous. When he heard of petitioners repLe tiessting the sense ad the country in this way, he wait forced to recollect a saying pf Nr. Wilkes'e-.." Do you take the liaise of the country; I will be content with the nonsense, and have no doubt 1 shall beat you." (A laugh.) tie had no hesitation in saying, that the inhabitants of any village or town thus undertaking to represent the sense of the people of England, though perhaps not exactly guilty of a misdemeanour, as some persons might have once wished or attempted to render them, did, notwithstanding, assume what they had no right to assume. The sentiments con tained in the petition he was ready to take as those of the petitioners themselves, who had no authority whatever for crating that they were those of others, much less of the people of England. It was quite right that the petitioners should approach Parliament with a temperate and becsm ing expression of their own opinions, but utterly absurd for them to arrogate to themselves the privilege of repre senting to the Legislature the notions of their fellow-sub jects upon this or any ether question. The Duke of NEWCASTLE explained. Lord HOLLAND observed, that if the Noble Duke merely spoke his own sentiments on the subject in reference to the number of petitions of a similar nature already pre sented, lie was undoubtedly justified in so doing ; hut if it were to be said that the inhabitants of the parish of represented the sense of the people of England on this or any other subject, he (Lord Holland) must object to the assertion as unparliamentary, if not unconstitu tional. Earl HOWE presented petitions from Ashburn, Great Linford, and several other places and parishes in Buck inghamshire, against further concessions to the Roman Catholics. A Noble Lord, whose name we did not learn, presented a petition from the Roman Catholic inhabitants of a place in Devonshire, in favour of Catholic Emancipation. Lord BEXLEY rose to present a petition from the bo rough of Harwich, against any farther concessions to the Roman Catholics ; and observed, that be could not lay a petition upon this subject, coming from his former consti tuents, on their Lordships' table,without saying that he still adhered to his old opinions, and those of his old constitu ents, with regard to the Catholic question. No alteration hail taken place in his sentiments; and, surrounded by an atmosphere charged with political conversions, he remained wholly unaffected. The petition, and a second to the same effect from a place in Wales, was laid upon the table. Lord LORTON presented petitions from the bishop and clergy of the diocess of Killala, and from the inhabitants of Killala and Castle Corner, i❑ the county of Sligo, against further concessions to the Roman Catholics. He would only say, that concurring (as he did) most heartily in the sentiments contained in these petitions, he felt great plea sure in presenting them. The Earl of \TRIM AM presented petitions from North church, Berkhampstead, and Tring, in Hertfordshire, praying that the Protestant Constitution be preserved inviolate," and against further concessions to the Roman Catholics.—Laid on the table. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY presented a petition from the corporation of Oxford against the Roman Catho lic claims. Two petitions (we believe) to the same effect were presented by Earl Brownlow from places in the coun ty of Lincoln.—Laid on the table. _ . AFFAIRS OF PORTUGAL. Lord HOLLAND rose for the purpose of asking the Noble Lord (Aberdeen), the Secretary of State for the Foreign Department, a few questions, relating to the affairs of Portugal anti the relations subsisting between us and that country. He did so in consequence of some oc currences reported to have taken place recently, in which he conceived that the national honour and the interestsof Portugal were alike interested. On a former evening the Noble Earl had stated, adverting to the state of Portugal, and in answer to some observations made by a Noble Mar quis (Lansdowne), that he (the Earl of Aberdeen) was most anxious to give a full explanation of the relations subsisting between this country and Portugal. The Noble Earl also pledged himself not only to justify the steps taken • by Government with regard to Portugal, but to place them in such a light as to insure them the most cordial approbation. Charges had been brought against the con duct of Ministers with respect to Portugal, but he (Lord Holland) did not very clearly comprehend whether these charges related to their abetting, aiding, and conniving at the usurpation of Don Miguel, or to the more recent com mission of hostile acts against the unarmed and unoffending subjects of an ancient ally. He did not understand whe ther it was the intention of the Noble Lord to bring down information anti papers on the subject, for the guidance of their Lordships, and on which to found such a motion as might be deemed expedient. He confessed, however, it did appear to him things were in such a state as to point out that as the proper course to be adopted anti acted on. The time was come for something like this (at least such sea his opinion) ; for after three successive speeches from the throne en this subject, after much anxiety, and after hopes having been excited that the mediation and inter ference of this ceetintry would be attended with a success ful termination in the errangement of the disordered affairs of Portugal, we now only heard that our diplomatic rela tions with one party were still neceerarily suspended, and that h e eetilities were commenced against the other. This, he rubmitesd, was any thing rather than a satisfactory state of affairs, and Oemanded the explanation which the Noble Earl had professed hieeself so ready to afford. He had made these observations lei itehostile spirit to his Majesty's Ministers, vir e th no desire to e r oabarees their operations; but he really did think it woold be quite zinbeealuing not to exhibit some feeling for the onbappy condition of Por tugal—not to take some interest lit a late extraordinary caec4rrence—not to show some little anxiety relative to the 44,4 s pf our oldest ally. Under these circumstances, h e Crusted Noble Earl meant to lay the fullest and most satisfaceoly ,i t rineneation before the House with re gard to the policy peratee4 ley this country towards Por tugal. The Earl of ABERDEEN said, it has not the inten tion a' .his Majesty's Government to lay any pep,efe before Parliamene at the present moment respecting the affairs of Portugal, or the xelations between the two countries. His Majesty had already reformed the House in the Speech from the Throne, that, fee t r e ng deeply interested in the prosperity of the Portuguese innneraiiy, he had entered, and veae fhen engaged, in negotiation 1144 tare head of the House e l f Braganzd, in the hope of terininat;ng gke un fortunate discord e ,of Portugal and restoring the tran quillity of that country, and putting an end to a state of affairs incompatible to its walla sing and prosperity. That being the case, Noble Lords rineest ka,ri:eive that it would be utterly impossible, during the continnaieee of that nego tiation, for his Majesty's Ministers to be prepay ed „tee come down to Perliament and lay upon the table of the Una papers and documents in explanation of the precise state of it. The course of his Majesty's Gcfeernment was clear and distinct; upon that peizet they had no akernative. If, how ever, the Noble Lord thought proper to move tar intOrma tion or papers calculated in his opinion to throw light iipen 114 eobject, anti lead to favourable results, they ,(the Minis tees weld be ready to prodnce them, if they imagined it could be done with propriety, and without injury to the public service e or if they should come to a different conclusion, and decide npoesi withholding the required infor mation, they would be peepeged with satisfactory reasons f.e: their refusal. With respect en Ake ,O,thq event adverted to i,ya, Noble Lord, Government had eeceieeed po official informatiwi - ,.40 tenable them to satisfy the upon the subjeee, ;No doubt the fact as reported had o.c ceured, but under wei eea!eetinistances Government as yet Was wholly without informai4op.. At the sane time it was fair to admit, that the instructions neelete• which the officer in quesose must have acted, contemplated 4 1 41 possibility of such an ateesweit being made by the Poitagozee, end provided for its fruesegion: and he was fully prepared, , be occurrence had taken egere as stated, to prove that no charge of blame could attach tr pie Majesty'y'a Govern ment, in consequence of what had happened. To far, in deed, from that being the case, lie was most eci:Jer and de sirous to explain peed justify (as he could most conar4erely) any share GoveruMen4: iziigl.t have had in producing the event. It would appear, 3.t tha prGper period, that not only was his Majesty's Government telly jpstified in the line of conduct it had adopted on this occiAon, but that there was no other course left it to pursue; and that ;het rouse 742 not only just and proper, but necessary and indiepensabie, • Lord 14OLLAkeD eet'ets not satisfied by the reasons ad duced by the Noble Feed iseeefreining from bringing for ward the information desired as 4:9 ehe Agate of Portugal. The Noble Earl told him that he (Lori Molten()) sees at libeety $p move for information 011 the :abject, 30 tteieL:'t i.t would be grantell, if not inconsistent with the public ter vice. He was also phi that last session, and with great apparent candour Rod Oaelsebilitv, that it was impessible liar a person unconnected with r el ent 4, 4: _pq to select the p4tieular papers that it might be leave pro duced, 4nd that it ought to be left to GovartPlkeig 49 PM" mit those 14;.4 were necessary for the information Of Jae !louse. It woe eeeercely to be expected after this, that be should take upon leiniee;,: to give notice of a motion upon the suffice. He could not limeshoping that, sooner or later, Parliament would institute an iieeeeiry with regard to the affairs of Portugal, and our relations wieli ;hat coun try. He liiin6eZ: 'lid not intend to attempt to bring tl;es. :natter forward, at peae:eret fur various reasons. One motiqA that induced hint to /4.tain from doing so arose out of tiro expectation that some oois jereter able than himself to accoroilith the end he had in vieee e.ttempt it. (Hear, hey.) There were other motives, and a a pnlAic nature, thought it 1.44 not be quite Parlia mentary tone Wien them upon that gccfisiop, However, he would place them on record. The fact was, important as might be the subject of our relations with Portugal, the present was not a fortunate time for bringing it forward, when the minds of men were absorbed and pre-occupied with another most important and engrossing subject. Be sides, he felt great diffidence and disinclination to commit himself iu hostilities with his Majesty's Ministers, at a time when they were engaged in a work which (great as the regeneration of Portugal would be) was, for the hap piness, prosperity, and peace of this country, the very greatest in which any government could possibly be en gaged. Feeling as he did, however, on the subject of our foreign politics, and our relations with other States,—sub jects in which he had long taken, perhaps, too much inte rest,—be could not look at the representations of what was said to have taken place off the island of Terceira, with out calling upon Parliament, sooner or later, to institute an inquiry into the transaction, and express a decided opi nion upon the subject. IRISH REPRESENTATIVE PEER. Lord FARNHAM gave notice, that he would to-mor. row present to their Lordships a petition from Lord Vis count Castlemaine, against the return of Lord Dunally. The LORD CHANCELLOR gave notice, that when the petition should have been presented, he would move that it he taken into immediate consideration. A person from the office of the Clerk of the Crown in Ireland, presented a return to their Lordships' writ, ap pointing Lord Dunally aR Irish representative Peer in the room of the Earl of Erne. COURT OF CHANCERY. The LORD CHANCELLOR said it was his intention, on an early day, to propose for their Lordships' considera tion a measure relative to the Court of Chancery. SIR ARCHIBALD CAMPBELL. The LORD CHANCELLOR read a letter, transmitted through Lord onbermere, from ntjor-General Sir Ar chilyild Campbell, acknowledging the honour conferred upon the writer, by the vote of thanks of Parliament for his services against the King of Ava. On the motion of the Earl of SHAFTESBURY, the letter was ordered to he entered on their Lordships' journals ; and the House adjourned at quarter to Seven o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS.-(LAST NIGHT.) The SPEAKER took his seat at four o'clock. Mr. fIOBHOUSE presented a petition from the inha bitants of St. James's, Westminster, praying for more per fect regulations concerning Parish Vestries. It had ex cited great pain among the parishioners,"to find that the present regulations were ineffective. The petition con tained many alleged misappropriations of the funds of that parish, which the petitioners averred that they could trove, and which misappropriations they would continue, uulesa some alteration was made in the system. Mr. DOWNIE brought up some reports from the Edin burgh Gas Light Company, preparatory to a Bill for rais ing a sum of money fur the further prosecution of their object. Mr. Alderman WAITIIMAN presented a petition from the Inhabitants of St. Dunstan's parish in the City of London, to enable them to pull down the present clium.h of the said parish, which was in a very dilapidated state, and to build a new one. It was in contemplation, in the event of this Bill passing, to make such alterations us would tend to a great public improvement. Lord STANLEY and Mr. N. CALVERT presented petitions relative to the Repair of certain Roads. Sir J. MACKINTOSH rose to give notice of a motion whirls lie should have given notice of before, but as his Majesty's Speech had appeared to give such gratifying and universal satisfaction on the first day of the Session, he slid not like to he the first to bring any part of that speech into discussion, or injure the temper of the House in considering that which was certainly the greatest of all public questions..--(Hear.)—He had also delayed this notice, because he was loth to show that he differed in opinion on any part of the conduct of his Ma jesty's Ministers, who hail now brought before them one of the happiest measures that had ever been introduced into that House since the Bill of Rights.—(Hear, and cheers.) Ile was still desirous of adhering to that pacific principle upon which he had acted, and would endeavour to avoid in terfering with his friends in supporting the measure which he considered of national benefit to the country. Ile hoped in the little tranquillity which the House might enjoy, for he saw fearful preparations made to disturb it, in the interval between the conclusion of the discus sion of the Association Bill, and the proposal of the Eman ciption Bill, that that little tranquillity would afford him an opportunity of listening to the calls of humanity, and draw ing the attention of the House to a part of the Speech which had hardly been noticed. He therefore gave notice that on Thursday the 19th inst. he should move for the production of certain dispatches, reports, and other documents concerning the relations of this country with Donna Maria, Queen of Portugal and Algarve. Lord SIIIRLEY presented a petition from several parishes in Ireland against any further concession to the Catholics. Major-General KING in presenting a similar petition, declared that lie should give his vote against any concessions whatever.—(Hear.)—He also presented a similar petition praying for the suppression of the Roman Catholic As sociation from Crossmaleena, and a third petition from Castle Coiling. The Marquis of CHANDOS presented petitions against Catholic Emancipation from the Rector. Churchwardens, and other inhabitants of North Church, Hants, and from Hemel Hempstead. After a few words from Sir J. SEIIRIGHT and General G ascov Sir J. MACKINTOSH said, that it was by no means his wish or intention to disparage this petition, and other petitions of a similar kind. In the present prosperous state of the Catholic Question, he conceived that it would be in the highest degree unbecoming to apply hasty or in dignant language to the still conscientious opponents of that great measure.—(Cheers.)—He could not, however, avoid remarlcir,g, that the petitions at present before the House had been adopted before the meeting of Parliament, and the promulgation of his Majesty's most gracious speech, and had the change which had taken place in the views of his Majesty's Government been known to the petitioners, it was highly probable that they would have adopted quite different petitions.—(Hear.)—lt was highly probable that had those petitioners been previously made acquainted with the declaration ! - ,f his Majesty's Government, that this measuie of Emancipation 7.;;ap cleaolntely necessary for the safety and tranquillity of the :tag, a pd tlittP it would be accompanied by satisfactory securities fur the :z:q.igp?.nance of the Protestant establishments and institutions r the country, it was highly probable, he would say, that li t ad these petitioners known that such were the sentiments of the Co, - e:l;tpent, they would never have sent forward such petitions to .t.'i?at House IL regretted to observe that a similar petition had been adopted at one of the seats of science and literature.— (Hear.)—lt appeared Oat the University of Oxford was Asjembled to petition against eroarcipation on the morning of the day r4l which his Majesty's in hoah souses of Parliament had in a full and satisfactory manlier decla a red their opinions that thin measure of Catholic Emanci pation was necessary for the public aafety, and that it would be so framed as to be perfectly consistent with, the t iarqeste.ot institutions and establishments of the country. With reapeait tiitliat learned body, he (Sir J. Mackintosh) must say bel, 9 ped-+ . 4ee4 lie believed —that they had re fused to [weep: Are res' gng.lon vihicir ;.he peculiar, and he might perhaps add, the over delicacy 'of the !tight Gentleman opposite (Mr. Peel) haal'induced tender to them; and if that were the fact, it might very ration ii)y e ,co-ac!ofied, that if that learned body at the time of its meetinkhati been in full possession of the sentiments of Government, theyotiacl prOAbly have withdrawn the petition which they then aZlO'pted.- 7. (irfea i r.) Mr. TRANT was surprised to heal . on that site Noose, the language which had been used by the 'Bight Hon. tie ;man who bad last spoken. He hail spoken of the King's Speech it were a command that could not be disobeyed; and he seemed 0 for granted, that the , protestant inhabitants of tne empire were, *mail ifs-ro vroslgatiop, Wally ignorant of the change which litlctoe , rurred in Gre -- ,eri t tim - aF r ts of his Majesty's Governthent. They were certainik'nor; pripFaparesl far it. A masked bat tery had been preiionsly opened by the grea i t captaia, grihich had somewhat discornfitted them, His Right non: Vriert l , the member for Derry, in a speech there sumo months egp, had let the cat (Jut of the bag. (A laugh.) But they avho se .e ytaqnFil to the Protestant cause would neither die delnded norin l tirpigated , ,!Cheers.) The tables of the house wtniiii he coverer)Fijty pe6490 4 - on all parts of the country against the measure. Nothing thoit aberration of intellect could have induced his Ifon; FrTentl; opposite (would to God he could still call tl:m his friends) CO erimpe down to the House and thus suddenly and une - ,t , irectedly ,aaadaini, " Oh ! this thing can't be_lielped—it roast be done.`' After a few words feotm fir i. B a tt ynoßs, Mr. H. MAXWELL cou ld' not alloiv the j„atitiops to pass without a few words. The majority of Engfiriai rihd Ireland were decidedly opposed to the Catholics, and if iris Ma'„esty's Minister had changed their opinion, the country had nut O:peed tlieir's.—(Hear, hear, bear.) --It was a source or great aaijarfireaion that the po litical feeling of the country was such as would ,Ca:,arnment. Ile had no doubt that the Noble Duke and the Home iiieeretai.7 had conscientiously changed their opinions ; but lie co* ioN,arc theta that they had lost the . . , confidence of the country—and in that feeling, as it lum ber of that House, he must say he participated. Mr. W. YATES PEEL said that had his Ma jesty's Ministers shown a proper attention to the opi nions of the House, when it was recommended to put dawn the Catholic Association, they would slot now have had to resort to the alternative of eman cipation. There was no danger equal to that of granting concession. There could be no doubt emancipa tion was intended to be granted, and after what had passed he would ask what security could they have of the seven millions about whom they had heard so much.—(Hear, hear.)—lt was telling them they possessed a power which the Government of this country could not resist. His opi nion was not changed, he should still continue a steady opposition to the Catholic Claims, Sir JAMES MACKINTOSH explained. The lion. Member for Cavan seemed to possess a species of commu nication, compared to which balloons and telegraphs were a mere joke ; for within four days after the delivery of the King's speech. the Hon. Member had ascertained that the people of England and of Ireland had lost their confidence in his Majesty's Government.—(A laugh.)—He (Sir J. Mackintosh) was not as yet so completely gone over to the errors of Popery as to give his credence to such a Hohenlohe miracle as that.—(Laughter.)—The Hon. Member had expressed his conviction that the petitioners against eman cipation would not be influenced in the slightest degree by the change which had taken place in the views of his Ma jesty's Government, but on that point he (Sir J.Xackintosh) could not help dissenting from the opinion of the Honour able Member. _ . . Mr. G. 11I0ORF , said no one felt more inclination to pay attentio❑ to the recommendation contained in the Royal Speech, or rather the Speech of his Majesty's nisters, for he never could believe that it flowed from his own heart. He would boldly deny that it was his Ma jesty's wish that power should be given to the Catholics. —( Hear, hear, and loud cries of Order, from all parts of the House.) He would support the Protestant Establishment and trusted that time would be allowed for the people of England and Ireland to express their opinion, by petition, on this momentous question. Ministers would then hear how decided was public opinion in favour of the Protestant cause. They would have a Protestant religion—they would have a Protestant King.—(Hear, hear.)--The petition which was from Hemel Hempstead was then brought up, it was against concession, arni was ‘4llcred to be laid on the table. _ _ The Marquis of CHANDOS presented a petition from Ossory, Queen's County, praying the Government to pot down the Catholic Association. He would state that in a few days his Majesty's Ministers would hear the real opinions of tl , e country, which would renew its exertions, and make its Representives do their duty. When the Bill for Emancipatlcn was brought in he would make a call of the House. for it was the duty of every Member, by his owu individual vote, to say whether or not the Constitu tion was to be changed. Colonel SIBTHORPE was happy to see the number of petitions presented against emancipation. The country was surprised at the unexpected change. He had just re• ceired a letter from Ipswich, where it was thought impos sible that his Majesty's Ministers could have come to such a determination. Whilst he (Col. Sibthorpe) bad a seat in that House, he would do his duty, and oppose cone .s -'ion. The Hon. Member then presented a petition from Wootton, in Lincolnshire, against emancipation. Sir R. INGLIS was confident that petitions would pour in against cnocp.ssion. He cei tainly could assure the House that his Majesty's Ministers hod forfeited the confidence of the people. He had the greatest respect for the Right Hon. Gent., and hoped he would see his error in time. He then presented a petition from the Corporation of Ripon against further concession to the Catholics. Sir W. ING4•R Y. did not agree with the Hon. Bart. who spoke last. He felt called upon to give some account of the way in which the last petition had been got up. ft was really a hole and corner petition, concocted in a public-house, and he rather thought it was not the petition of the Corporation of Ripon. It should not be allowed to lie on the table. If it was, the Rrunswickets would bet up thousands of them. Mr. Secretary PEEL thought all petitions ought to be treated with the utmost respect. The opinions of any class of his Majesty's subjects should meet with the re spect of that noose. Nothing was so injurious as to treat lightly the honest opinion of the petitioners. He could assure the Hun. Baronet that the petition from Oxford had originated in the purest motives and was uninfluenced by any measure of Government. He should feel it his duty to present it, though compelled by a sense of duty to differ from its prayer. Whatever efforts might be made to induce Lim to express his opinion fully on this subject, Le did hope that his Hon. Friend and the country also would feel satisfied that there must have been some cogent reasons, on looking at the whole question, that could in duce his Noble Friend and himself to place themselves in the situation in which they at present stood—(Hear, hear) —a situation in which they were not only opposed, but severely reproached by those who had long been their friends.—(Cheers.) —Allusion had been made, in the course of the evening, to the sacrifice of the emoluments of office, which, it was insinuated, ought to have been preferred sooner than he should have taken the course which he had adopted. Good God ! he could not argue with a man who could place the sacrifice of office or of emolument in competition with the severe, the painful sa crifice which he had made—(cheers),—a sacrifice which it seemed to be supposed he had consented to, iu order to retain his office.—(Cheers.)—He had, after mature de liberation, come to this determination, and nothing could have occurred to shake it—that in the state of the country—in the state of public opinion in Ireland —he never would meet that House in the situation in which he had been formerly placed. He was respon sible for the safety of Ireland, and that responsibility he did not wish to be subjected to, while the Cabinet were disunited on this question. It was impossible that he could remain in such a situation after the information he had received relative to the state of Ireland last suminvr•s-- (Hear.) The consequences arising front that determina, tion were known to the House; and, however displeasing thvy might be to some gentlemen, he firmly believed that the time would come when justice would be done to the intentions of his Noble Friend and himself, (Qheeor.)—, When they would not be thought to have betrayed their trust to the country, to the Protestant establishment, and to the interests of the state, because they had preferred the reproaches which were heaped on them, and even an appa- Tpup svritiee of consistency, rather than for the purpose of saving appe,;,wancpa, tnbaye porsued the course which they had hitherto pursued (cheers), and h4ve thus oboiped a short popularity at the expence of a firm conviction that they were not acting rightly, and at the expence also of the true interests of the country. (Cheers.) Aft r z!. few wottisi from Mr. C. PELITAzr, the petition was )4id on tabh;. Sir R. INGLIS, in rising to move that the petition now laid on the table he printed, should take the opportunity of answering what had fallen from the Honourable Member or Linpelnahire (Sir H. Ingilby.) The Hon. Baronet had said, that this petition was tint wofttly to tie op fhc ta bl e . H e did not mean to move that the petition should be read, in order to disprove that assertion, but he should azlre, that it was directed to two objects—it prayed, first, that the onnsitt;ti,: - .• might he preservcd- 7 and next, that no further concession of peliticai poweF ahold be granted to the Roman Catholics. Now, he would ask the Hon. Baronet, what was there in these two clauses that pug;rl,: - . ‘ r -o prevent the petition from lying on the table? its itntzor~y of a Protestant people to express a wish to live untle a . Protestant Goverot e letit ? Was t iat the language which the Hon. RarOnees conatituen4 would wish him to utter in that House? He hoped that the people of this country would maintain the principles ad vocated by the petitioners, and that they would resist any appa l tiori Yip po t riF4l power on the part of the Roman or'd Wre'd to ne pa Mr. FLEMING presented' petitions fi . oth Bishop Stort ford, and two other places, against the Catholic Claims.'— Laid on the table. Vtißia .•_o resent three petitions against granting any fullher cOneessiOn'to the Roman (rttholics. He begged 'leave to obsenie, that furthe'Riglit Ilon. e cretary he entertained the highest and most sincere respect bat he cpnii.ss , Al tha , t lie could not express the surprise Whi‘ch feri Op' he itard of the extianrdinavy cn4ng whichest i,m h . ad place in his septi men t s on thi s important um what had fallen froM the Right (utiatkBeen seemed from Hon. Gentleman, that he had, in his official situation, obtained such information, as called on him, in consequence 0/ the 4ngp.r which threat e n e d t h e country; to act att has done; -an d they were told, th a t, in' the a rrangement which tyeold he propOsed, care would he taken that there b ;ar,dd be ample securitik given for . the safety of the Pro testant Establishment.—(hear, lleaf..)—ft did appear tq hint exceedingly strange, that those who had fortnerly op posed all concession with the utmost perseverance, should now, all of a sudden, turn round and support it. Tea dire Ft 5;,;57,47 Fisted for taking such a step, the House must of course meet tha n rie;,eat i is the best man , lter, but he would say, whatever proceeding might be itoopkdl tae especial care that due security is afforded to the Protestant Constitution of this country.—(Hear, bear.) —That was essentially necessary, for it could not be expected thas the Protestar4s wcu!d gratify the Roman Catholics at their own Cost. till' the absolute necessity of the case was proved, and 'proper 'securities' given, he would be the last mad to allow any additional concessions to be made to the Roman Catholics. The petitions, which were from Ruthin, and two other plac,2s, were then laid on the table. Admiral SOTHERON presented three petitions against any further concessions to the Roman Catholics. The first was from the town and neighbourhood of Mansfield,—the second signed by 2,000 persons, from the town and neigh bourhood of Nottingham,—and the third signed by 300 or 400 persons, from East Eulchford, in the county of Not tingliam.—Laid on the table. Mr. F. MUNDY presented four petitions against the Catholic claims, from Ashbourn, Matlock, and two other places in Derbyshire. Mr. H. DAVIS held in his hand a petition, nume rously signed by the inhabitants of Bristol, against further concessions to the Catholics. He did not mean to take up the time of the house by stating at length the ground by which his opinion that further concession ought not to be granted, was supported. What had been said by the Hon. and Learned Gentleman on the floor (Sir J. Mackintosh), in order to disparage the effect of these petitions on the House, namely, that if the contents of the speech had been known earlier, no such petitions would have been pre sented, deserved some comment. In answer to that lie would request the Hon. and Learned Gentleman to observe what had been done in the city which lie (Mr. 11. Davis) represented. The speech was read in that city, and, in a few minutes afterwards, a requisition, signed by 230 most respectable inhabitants of Bristol, was prepared, calling for a public meeting to consider of a petition against grant ing any further extension of political power to the Roman Catholics—(hear, hear)--and he had no hesitation in say ing, that at this moment an immense majority of his con stituents were of the same opinion.--(Hear, bear.)—The petition was laid on the table. Mr. HART DAVIS presented a similar petition from the parish of St. Stephen, Bristol.—To be printed. Mr. DUNCOMBE presented two petitions of a similar nature—one from the clergy of the Archdeaconry of the East Ridin; of Yorkshire, and another from Kirby, in the same county. The Hon. Member had been requested to support the prayer of the petitions, and did so most willingly. took this opportunity of saying, that though others had seen reason to abandon their principles, he saw no reason to abandon his. If, therefore, he were to act in opposition to the course which he had hitherto con scientiously pursued, he thought that le should be acting disglaceftilly and dishonourably.—(Loud cries of Hear.) He believed that the measure contemplated was obnoxious to the feelings of the people of this country, and against the best interests of the empire. They were now called upon to take into their consideration a no less important subject than the alteration of the most vital principle of the British constitution. (Cheers, and cries of Hear.) He hoped, however, that it was not too late to ask his Majesty's Mini sters to weigh again and again the step they were about to tyke, and to dolled deliberately on the consequences of it. I..et them vecollept, and follow the good example of the late Mr. Canning. That able and strenuous advocate of the Catholic claims declared, that he should never wish to see this measure thrust precipitately and prematurely on the country. The King was actuated by the smile principles, and thought that such a, inesswe ought net to be adopted OW lug Itirotestaot subjects were as ready to give as his Catholic subjects were to receive it. The petitions were then ordered to be printed, Mr. F. CLINTON presented a petition from the town of Grantham. The Hon. Member said, that for the last two sessions he had given his vote against further con cessions to the Roman Catholics, and that, notwithstanding the great and unexpected changes that had taken place, he saw no reason to give a different vote in this session. He never thought that such a measure would give tranquillity to Ireland. It it were passed, there would still remain questions much more embarrassing and difficult. They had heard the most eloquent, and he thought, the most unanswerable, ar o ' wnents against it from gentlemen who w ere used to tak e the lead in opposing the claims of the Catholics, but whose services he feared were new lost to thecause. The arguments in favour of it, too, had always been urged with the same force, though not with the same effect as now. They were formerly thought of little moment; now they were held to be convincing. (Hear.) They had been told that the an. nounceinent in his Majesty's Speech would discourage the people from petitioning. He thought otherwise. Though there had been a change in that House, there had been none out of doors, and he was satisfied that this announcement would be the signal for petitions against the Catholic Claims. Sir J. YORKE rose, not for the purpose of noticing what had fallen from the Hon. Member who had just sat down, but to answer the Hon. Member who had precedo him. Ile must say, lie thought that Hon. Alembera had used some very hard words. Were they to be told that they acted disgracefully and dishonourably, because they attended 'to a recomtsiendation of the Government commu nicated by the Right Hon. Secretary (Mr. Peel), than whom a more honourable mats did not breathe? (Cheers, and cries of hear.) It did appear to him to be very hard that they should be so taunted. lie always thought that he was doing his duty in voting against the Catholics, but he could no longer hold that opinion when his Right Hon. Friend told them that it was wrong, and proved his since rity by sacrificing all that was most dear to him. (Cheers,) When they saw one of the Right Hon, Gentleman's own family withdrawing from hint his support, could any one doubt that his Right Hon. Friend acted otherwise than from a sense of duty. (Cheers.) Good God ! Was such conduct to be called disgraceful and dishonourable ? (Cries of No, no.) For his own part, sO help him God, as God was his judge, he would not have thought of altering his opinion if the Ministers of the Crown, who had the best means of information, had not thought it necessary to give way. Mr. DUNCOMI3E really did not mean to apply the words complained of to any Member of this House. He had merely stated, that he saw no reason to alter his opi nion on this subject, and that it would, therefore, be dis graceful and dishonourable in him to abandon his princi ples merely because others Lad abandoned theirs. Lord CASTLEREAGH should think himself unworthy Of occupying the aituatiPP in Which his constituents had if representing, as be did, a large county, h e stand forward and say that, in his opinion, the (ppilia(.loctee not dstialpiM' Protestant population of Ireland were by no meant so op posed to the pleasure in contemplation as two Honourable Merobers vybcf bad spoken that evening would make them believe. He slid hope and believe that there was more the measure Christian charity among them. ,The Hon. Gentleman who thought that so many petitions would be presented against I. t . l i s i : t iale h as P li r : - : l l 4 f i e e re 9.l to come from against the measure, must, as well as his supposed peti tioners, have a wonderful insight into futurity—far one w4q l i s f e e s as ar, L e r t . ) k - 7 - 1 7f the other side of the House they might look upon it with suspicion--(llear, and a laugh)—but from the hands of those who had been called the bulwarks of th? Constitu tion, surely no danger cot!Isl be rinticiaated. Many dark isisif.oations of dangers that would result to Ireland from this measure had been thrown out. He did not know what those dangers were; but he knew that none coslld:be worse than the broken friendships and tllse bestic feelings_ which the present ssist.;sin had caused.- : -.(Cheess.),-He lilesscd thw flalyzi of that lOikit had brought convetion borne to the Right Hon, Secretary, whose conduct on this subject did him the greatest credit. During the whole course of the Right Hon. Gentleman's career, bright and honourable as that career had been, he had never alip3 traffscendentli as now.-ss(F, 11 e9rOss .--1 1 %vottl rather have retrained silent on this occasion, - but he could not help rising to intimate, diet gentlemen who represented the Protestant feeling of Ireland as so decided and so pres s whelming, would (16 well to snake inquiries respecting thv, 4i n i o;ks o f o sii4s who were sinfte as 'respectable as their oWn 14 ' 3 r.) Mr. FIOBHOUSE moved for various returns respect ing the expenses of the vestry, &c. of the parish of St. James. Mr. HENRY MAXWELL tresented Seyecal petitions from places in the couritirE! of Aernagls, Wicklow, and Tip- praying that no farther political power be granted to the Roinati Catholics; that the forty -shilling freeholders be done away with; and that the Catholic .Att',-4aion Le put down. ' rt ANT presented a siclSilar petition from Armagh. —Tee he printed, _ . Mr. CRESSET PELHAM presented petition from Salop, against farther co - 41c.esiop% to the Roman Catholics. 'Afr: RICE TREVOR presented five petitions of a similar stature front Carmarthenshire. The Hon. Member observed, that his opinions on the Catholic question were at present unchanged. He was totally ignoraqt of th e nature of the measure about to be prqosetl, and had very little mktion of what securities would be provided for tine Protestant church. If he found that those securities were not such as to satisfy his mind, his vote should be as it had always been. Admiral EV4NS presented a petition from Portarling_ ton, praying for the abolition of forty-shilling freeholders, for the suppression of the Catholic Association, and against any further concessions to the Roman Catholics. The Hon. Member said, they were told that the measure in contemplation was tp giTis civil linel:ty` to the Roma? C4timlies. Now, as to civil liberty, could any man lay his hand upon his 'heart and say that the Ca tholics in this country did nut enjoy as much civil liberty as the subjects of any Catholic prince in the'world ? As to religious liberty, it was an absurdity for Catholics to talk of such a thing (hear, and a laugh), when they would not allow people even to read the Scriptures, Our Saviour .~ ;off 1 said, "Open the Scriptures," but the Catholic church sai' I " Shut that book." Lord E. SOMERSET presented a - petition against fry" Cher concessions to the Roman Catholics, from the De° and Chapter of the Cathedral Church at Gloucester; three petitions of a similar nature from the county " Gloucester.—To be printed. Mr. ROBINSON moved for a return of the number cl dozen pairs of gloves imported, and of the duty paid on tUe same, from the sth of April to the sth of February last/ Ordered. Mr. O'NEILL presented two petitions against furthe r concessions to the Roman Catholics: one from the Mayo r and Corporation of Kingston-upon-Hull—aml another frog the Merchants, Bankers, and other Inhabitants of the salv e place.—To be printed. On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the Excnuauts , the orders of the day were read. CLARE ELECTION. Mr. LEAKE moved that leave be given to Thonsa' Mahon and others, freeholders of the county of Clare, renew, within the next three sitting days, their petitio, presented last session, against the eleetieu and return Daniel O'Connell, Esq.—Leave granted. PORTUGUESE REFUGEES. The Lords Commissioners' Speech was taken into consi' deration ; and upon the motion of supply, Mr. E. D. DAVENPORT considered it his duty t ) avail himself of the present occasion, without losing arse' ther moment, to call the attention of Parliament, and Oar titularly of the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite, to a tar ject in its nature so distressing, that he was almost .afraid trust to his own feelings while explaining it to the House' Lie was aware that the question respecting the relation' between this country and Portugal was of the greatest iU portance, and was one which required, and would, a ° doubt, shortly undergo the jealous investigation of trot House. A motion upon that subject had already been fix , and he was satisfied that whenever the papers called for should be produced, it would appear that the lamentabl e state in which Portugal has been during the last nin e months, was mainly owing to the confined policy o f this country. He was, however, sensible that it would be es' tremely injudicious and improper to discuss that subjec t at the present moment, or to move any question whish might obstruct the operations of that most importan t of all questions, upon the consideration of which Government had at length bona fide entered. Ba t there was an insulated transaction, to which he was desirous of calling the attention of the House. He al luded to a recent outrage perpetrated by a British officer 0P the island of Terceira, which was, in his opinion, so dis" graceful to the national character, so distressing in its effects, whether we considered the shame excited at horse or the universal detestation abroad, that he thought the honour of Parliament and the credit of Government a like involved in bringing the matter to an explanation. Fo t himself he could say, that if he had the honour to ttand se ) the situation of the Right Honourable Gentleman, b e should avail himself of the earliest opportunity to gif e an explanation, whatever it might be, of that meat sua toward circumstance. The facts relating to this case were briefly these : the Hotta'e would perhaps recollect , that after the withdrawal of the British forces from Per tugal, and the surrender of the fortresses on th e T a o. into the hands of the usurper, no obstacle remained in the way of Don Miguel to prevent him carrying into effect those designs against the liberty of his country ; w hich he had previously shown a disposition to put int o exc' cut ion. When, therefore, all was lost in that c o u ntry , —when the wise resolutions and determinations, matte in Vienna and this country, were all at once diat'i pated, experiencing the fate which was probably es' pected of them, (but lie wished to be understood 0 not blaming any Minister whatever for those event"' and particularly the Minister of the Power of Austria) —when, he repeated, all was lost in that country, a considerable body of Portuguese, both in militia,' and civil stations, rather than remain any longer under. the dominion of the tyrannical usurper, went into volun tary exile. They proceeded to this country as their natio' ral asylum, which had been for so many ages the Lai - , table and kind friend to the persecuted and oppressed of all nations. They accordingly arrived at Plymest,th, ° after remaining th ere a cons id era bl e t i me, cloeiog eibtee' they conducted themselves with great plospaiety, they re' ceived an order through the eonspeteot authorities to bloat up their quarters. The officers woe directed to be sopa" rated from the soldiers-o s o coarse calculated to dentay tp the latter all idea of military discipline. The soldier' were ordered to be dispersed round Plymouth, atd th e v.iticesa to go into exile—in short, they were treated in every respect like prisoners on their parole. The }artier to whom this order was addressed, though thinking io or' eution would be detritneotol to the good cause in PottniAL yet preferred leoying a country where they were oonnger welcome, and resolved to proceed to Brazil, of OW tine th e only safe port open to them. Bat soon after they ewe to this determination, the news reaollo this country tlsio island of Terceira continued faithful to her legitiocuttO vereign ; that, in point 440, the Queen Damn, Manic ds Gloria's authority solos recognized throughout the'hir and that she was Sovereign of Terceira as much de facto as she was de jure. Accooliooly s they hired three Esr lish and one Russian ships, and upwards of 6,000 permutes military and civil, embarked and proceeded to Terceira. It was most unquestionably true, that they received an tinsation from our Government that they would not 1 4 allowed to land at the Azores, But they consid e red that provided they kept within the letter a international late-.° provided they proceeded unarmed, and provided they weeit fortified conditioually with orders from their own legitiooo Sovereign--they considered that they had a, full tight to hire neutral or any vessels they chose, to protseed to of port in the world th e y p l ease d ; they thought that England would be the last powea a earth to interfere with the unarmed subjects of opother country. Moreover, tbel had been assured, by yeay good authority, that the intinut" tion which had beets given to them by Government too much opposed to the law of natioass to be worthy of at' teptioo. The expedition accordingly set sail, and sr' rived on the 16th ef Jamsary lost, within a mile re Terceira, awl when they were just preparing to let ee their anchor s a shot from a British frigate was Aqqa. i4g4the, susannah, (a small b r i g , filled with men), whic7, destroyed one man and wo un d e d two others, lie cool' never believe that a British offices, let his instructions b e what they might, would begin his explanation with a° striking an argumeatt as a shot. He was, th ere f ore , '" opinion, that 4or,te revious signal must have been given IV Captain Walpole, which was not underatood by th e ire s'aut Portuguese. However, this circumstance led to t gociation between Captain Wolpole and Count Seadanisto and, in conseqoenco of the captain expressing o decided (l e ' terroirotio,o to CsOpose a landing, the attetwps was given 0" i 4 bogged to remark, that as soon Its the shot was fired, s correspondence ensued, and the British captain appeared to him to have pursued ; aoo of k g w , wh i ch had shown it' self in another i i al l o se ,A ro . ~ .! of aat to punish a party, and afterwesda to inquire iot o th e o ff ence. The correspond ence which foll owe d h ad ken published, in shishSaltlanha Goa° prntesta agai ns t th e i n j ust i ce o f preieoliug an "s: armed body of P or t uguese f rom l an di ng 14 the only 513°. which remained faithful to its legitimate sovereign. ' O4 Count complained of the act as a gross breach of iatf national law, and a,s a, cruel violation of thoaa aesticaUe'' relations oelOolt hod, so long existed between this eollotry and the sovereigns of Portugal. The news" 14 of the ships was urged its vomit, and the result was, that the pLec; of the expedition having been thwatte'sla t 11 C• Vort4,g4Wse were obliged to put into the por t of Brent, where they were received with every ssztorsstra tion of friendship and kindness. He thotiglo tisey had nut` got into a country willing and prepared to do them justie , and he trusted that France was 4t a condition to eccupl that post of honour of always giving succour to the perse cuted and the 4 1 .*Setisof liberty of all nations, which, he or, oretted, Englatol, wh o h a d so looor enjoyed it, h a d suffered herself to lose. lie had heard it stated—but he hardly es' Pected to b ear it repeetad to-night—in extenuation, if n ot in excuse, fn; thi s ootrasgeous.prooeeding, that this Go v could not to o k with naditierence at the separation any part o f t h e Pariaguese do m i n i ons f rom th e res t.—' Nobody, h e th oug h t, w i shed for any separation of the dos 1.11it400 lAtt it never wottisl he contended that because ilea tootper of Portugal possessed nearly the whole of the Por tuguese possessions, therefore no part should be preserted for the legitimate Sovereign. He begged pardon, for hsa's ing so long occupied the ottootloo of the House. ge• thought it his deity not to lot another unguent transpire withp;it solbug for eu explaoatioo of the matter, which be hoped the Right Hon. Secretory social give, as no Oen° felt he did with res p ec t t ea hastiness twots more t a •e interested ppavtltv chap dhiccetable to Wit country. Mr. ATEI.. had expected that this subject would be Itsooght before the House, and he could assure the Hon. Gentleman, that he had come down to the House with tb4 intention of giving any information upon it which, p a i b lpt be in his power ; but, subsequently to lit arrival in ill House, a Right Hon. qcutlwkiA P.r.A apposite side lead notified hi:+ lotesit' i oo of hoingiOSO forward a discussion 0 0 this subject, aid also on the whole of our relations with Porttigab Osi that account, and as in any explanation be might give, he must of necessity enter i n t o d e t a il s , it m i g ht be the most convenient course for all parties if any exploits:Os tion was postponed until the Right Hoo t Geoatlemao brought forward his motion, He had 'also another motive for wishing tp peatpooto the explanation of the cif cunistaucea whioli the Hon. Gentleman had alluded to' As yet Government had received no official account, or ail