The Sun. — London, England, 1858-06-19 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS.—(YEsTiaDAF•) The LORD CILINOILLOR took kis seat on the woolsack at five o'clock. _ _ _ THE CASE OF MR. M'DERMOTT. The Earl of DONOUGHMORE said tbat, in conse quence of the resignation by Mr. M'Dermott of the office he held in the county of Kerry, there would be no occasion to proceed farther in the matter, as the obje c t o f th e Government had been obtained. He, therefore, moved that the order for a committee of the whole house, which stood for Monday next, be read and discharged. The order was then read and discharged accordingly. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The Formartine and Buchan Railway and the South Devon and Tavistock Railway Bills were read a second time. The East Kent Railway, the Taunton Water, Bally.mena, Coleraine, and Portrush Railway, and Salisbury and Yeovil Rail way, were read a third time and passed. THE GOVERNMENT OF INDIA. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE begged to call the attention of the house to a subject of considerable importance and at the same time expressed his regret that the noble Earl at the head of the Government was prevented being present. The subject was one admitting of no delay, and had been for a long time under considera ion—he meant the new settlement of he Government of India. This was a question which it was impor ant that the house should regarl with as much at tention as the other house of Parliament, but neverthe less a great many bills were now passed late in the seesion which their lordships had not full time to con sider. He had learnt, from the usual public channels of information, that this great question, after having assumed various aspects there, had entirely at one time been lost in what he considered needless preliminary in• quiries. It now appeared that by some good fortune they had at last found outtbe right road, and that they were now in a position to communicate to their lordships the progress they had made. He did not, at the present moment, intend to express any opinion on the subject, his simple object being to contribute, as far as possible, to the early despatch of the measure, and, therefore, he begged to ask whether the Government had any objection to propose to the House of Commons to com municate to their lordships the resclutions which they had just passed, without waiting for the passing of the bill. By communicating these resolutions their lordships would be enabled to fully consider the whole of the measure, and thus to form their opinions without waiting for the detailed measure, which could not be received for a considerable time. He therefore begged to ask, whether there would be any objection on the part of her Majesty's Government to propose to the other house to make the communication to which he had referred i (Hear, hear.) The Earl of MALMESBURY said in the absence of his noble friend at the head of the Government, he would ask the noble marquis to permit him to postpone until Monday next a positive answer to his question, In the meantime he would communi cate his observations to his noble friend, who would give them all the consideration their importance de served. (Hear, hear.) THE MUNICIPAL FRANCHISE BILL. This bill passed through committee. PRIVATE BUSINESS. Lord STANLEY of ALDERLEY moved that a select committee be appointed to inquire into the present state of proceedings in Parliament on private bills, and to consider whether any improvement could be effected so as to facilitate such legislation and diminish its ex- Fense, - Lord REDESDALE thought upon the whole no great advantage would be gained by the proposed change. He did not oppose the motion. _ Lord BROUGHAM supported the appointment of the committee. He was more sanguine of the good that would result from it than the noble lord who had just eat down. He recoromendei the appointment of a joint committee for priva'e bills. Lord PORTMAN supported the motion. He con- Adored the proceedings in committee might be advan tageously and materially shortened. Lord DONOUGR MORE said the advantages of se parate committees were in many cases invaluable, and he doubted the proprte'y of dispensing with them in any case. He thought the present system was capable of amendment, and he should not oppose the motion. After some words from Lord STANLEY of ..ILDIR LEY in reply, The motion was agreed to and a committee appointed. THE VICAR — AGE OF CAMBERWELL. Lord ST. LEONARDS presented a petition from the vestry of Camberwell as to the present state of the vicarage and the law of sequestratio❑. The noble lord referred to the present state of the parish. The number of souls in the parish was 60,000, and the income 2,3001. The vicar was so greatly_in debt that he had absented himself from the parish, and the revenues of the vicar age were now under sequestration. The duties were performed by two curates, appointed by the bishop, who had no power to give them more than 2001. a year between them, and the petitioners prayed for an alteration of the law of sequestration. He thought their lordships would be of opinion that every clergy man was bound to reside in the midst of his con• gregation. Now what he should be inclined to propose was, that no clergyman should be liable to arrest, but, on the other hand, he would compel him to hand over the whole of his means to a trustee for the benefit of his creditors, reserving only so much as would enable him to reide where his dn•.ies called him. An arrangement of that kind would put an end to the practice of clergy men going abroad in order to avoid arrest, and thereby the interests of his parishioners and his creditors would be adequately guarded. LorcDI:7&dANNON was very glad that his noble fiend had devoted hisgreat powers to the consideratio❑ of thin most important question, and he entirely con curred in thinking it was one which demanded the atten tion of the Legislature. Lord REDESDALE likewise was of opinion that the evil complained of in the petition presented that evoing had become so pressing that it ought to be at cnce dealt with. The petition was then ordered to lie upon the table. PROBATES AND LETTERS OF ADMINISTRA TION Acr AMENDMENT BILL. Tbi.; bill was read a third time and passed. PEACE PRESERVATION (IRELAND) ACT CONTINUANCE BILL. This bill having been read a second tune, Their lordships adjour❑ed at twe❑ty minutes past 7. HOUSE OF COMMONS.--(YESTERDAY.) The SREMEEII took the chair at 4 o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The Crystal Palace District Gas Bill was read a third time and passed. The following private bills were further considered and ordered to be read a third time : Stockton and Darlington Railway (Durham Lines), Stockton and Darlington Railway (North Riding Lines), and Stockton and Darlington, Wear Valley, din,, Rail way Companies Amalgamation. NEW WRIT. On the motion of Sir W. IIAYTER, a new writ was ordered to be issued for the Eastern Division of Norfolk, in the r,om of Sir E. N. Buxton, deceased. THE LATE RUSSIAN WAR. Mr. CRAWFORD gave notice that be would on fith July call the attention of the house, and move a resolu tion, relative to the destruction of property belonging to British subjects in the Gulf of Bothnia, during the late Russian war. TUE GERMAN LEGION AT THE CAPE. Sir DE LACY EVANS asked the S e cretary of State for War„ from what fund the German Leg ion at ble Cape of Good H p Elope had been paid during the last 3• it the field allow ances and full pay which the governor of that colony was stated to have issued t, them ? General PEEL said that the pay and allowances re ferred to had been paid by Sir George Grey out of the co mmissariat che , t inst ea d o f out of the ol nil reve. bue. Lord Panmure, when in office, sent out irinstruc tionsthat the German Legio n must be paid out colony and not by the imperial Government, and y he (Gen. Peel) entirely agreed with the noble lord, and hal repeated them since he had been in office. KISSING A YOUNG LADY AGAINST HER WILL. Mr. FITZROY, amidst cries of " hear, hear," an d cheers, asked the Secretary of State for the Hom e Department whether his attention had been called to a case which had recently occurred before the Wareham Petty Session, when a carpenter of thenaine of Craft was sentenced, under the Aggravated Assaults Act, to six months' imprisonment, with hard labour, for kissing the daughter of the Rev. H. C. Collins, of Farringdoa Rectory, Devon, on landing from a stea er between Poole and Swanage. The hon. gentleman in the course of his observations said that the act referred to, which he in troduced, wasivery often perverted from its original intention. Mr. WALPOLE said his attention bad not been called to the case intimated by the hon. gentleman's question, but if his hon. friend would procure the fact , ' to be laid before him he would look into them and see if the act of which he was the author required amendment or not. The preamble was very different to the body of the act. (Hear, hear.) CHINS. Mr, HORSFALL a, , ked the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign AfEtirs, whether there was any truth in the reports which appeared in the French papers of au arrangement restricting the discretionary powers of the plenipotentiaries in China, and ordering them to ne gotiate a t C anten. P e ki n, or e l sew h ere.Mr 8. FITZGERALD said there was no truth in sue reports that had appeared in the newspapers re spectiog ar!st r i c ti on o f t h e di s creti o n ar y p owers c f the plenipk..en ha t ie4. On thel'lriF4,,r SLAVE TRADE. motio n 'the adjournment of the house till .Mondry, Air. P. O'BRIEN e a i lle e d ,i theattention of her Majesty's G imminent to the ine of maintaining the west tchoealsatrgoef naval force at present kPrriLiniiiidY .Africa and on the Nest ion of the slave tradp , watere, for th e auppres THE MILITIA.. • Cairn& FRENCH asked the Secretary or jWar if it was his intentio n to recommenithoe-deian te fhifo-di zn ent of any additiona l re g iments of militia, and ,would inform the house on what p rinci ple the sixte h en e regiments lately disembodied were selected T. . General PEEL said it was not the intention of her • Majesty's Government at present to disembody any more regiments of militia. Tile drafts of troops that went out to India was only the usual month l y demand. A. larger number will be sent out next month in conse• , i ,squenne Oa necessary delay this month. The principle . 0 04opted.for disembodying these regiments was that those • . I regiments that had given their quota to the line and .Wei 's efficient should be retained, and those that had THE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY EV ON'ING, given the nearest quota and were efficient were to have the preference over those who bad not given any. Till WELLINGTON MONUMENT. Mr. STIRLING asked the Chief Commissioner of Works, if it was the intention of her Majesty's Go vernment to order any one of the Prize Designs for the Wellington Monument, now exhibited in the conference room, to be executed for St. Paul's ; and, if not, whether he would state the coarse which the Government proposed to adopt with regard to the design and construction of the monument. He characterised the exhibiCon of models as a failure, and it was to be regretted so much time and labour had been thrown away in producing models totally unfit for the severe style of Wren in connection with St. Paul's. Lord J. MANNERS said he would answer the ques tion at a later period of the evening. THE INFORMER BURKE. The O'DONOGHOE asked the Attorney-General for Ireland, whether he had any objection to lay on the table a copy of the notes taken by the Solicitor-General for Ireland in his examination of the informer Burke, after the revelations said to have been made by Burke to the policemen and driver of the car who took him from Nenagh to Roscrea ; and also a copy of Burke's evidence on the trial of the Cormacks ? He had reason to believe the cause of Burke's second statement was the threat of the resident magistrate that unless he told who murdered Mr. Ellis he should remain in gaol till he rotted—he being in confinement at the time. The honourable gentleman also took occa sion to complain of the proceedings on the trial of the Cormacke, especially the irregular discharge of the jury on the first trial, because they did not agree to a verdict, and to the manner in which the jury for the second trial was selected. Mr. Justice Keogk, who tried the prisoner, charged the jury in a manner as he (The O'Donoghoe) hoped juries were seldom charged within these realms, for be frightened the jury into a verdict i f condemnation. Every attempt was made to save them, but without success, and the men were executed on the 11th of May. Since then, circumstances had occurred that tended to shake the belief in the credibility of the witnesses. There was gra v e matter for investigation (hear, hear), and it was not right to put Burke out of the way to prevent it. There were persons to be found that had heard him say he made the statement on the trial to please the public. The case must sooner or later be investigated, to satisfy public indignation of feeling in Ireland. Mr. GILPIN urged that the circumstances of the case should be fully investigated. Mr. BAGWELL said the greatest excitement prevailed in the county of Tipperary respecting this trial. There had never been a trial in Ireland before this where the public feeling had bee❑ so much excited, there was a prevalent feeling that justice had not been done. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL objected to cases of this kind being brought before that house, so ae to make it a court of appeal against a conviction. The right hon. gentleman referred to the position of the late Mr. Ellis in Kerry, and the circumstances connecting his murder. The men who were executed were in Mr. Ellis's employ, and were well paid. Spillan, the informer, and Burke, were also in the deceased's employ. The Cormacks re sided near where Mr. Ellis was murdered, and it was proved by independent evidence that the Cormacks were in the house, and formed a portion of a card-party there, near the time when Mr. Ellis passed inhis car. After referring to other details in connection with the murder, he said the case was fairly tried, and every justice was rendered them on this trial. They challenged nearly thirty jurymen. Burke's reason for not stating on the coroner's inquest who murdered his master, was, that he was terrified on seeing him before him—one of the Car macks being actually on the jury. It was a most un worthy thing to impugn the justice of twelve men taken from the county. The O'DONOGHOE said he had done nothing of the kind. Mr.WHITESIDE continued—With regard to the jury it was a mixed jury ; nobody was set aside on account (4 his religious opinions. They honestly tried the case, they came to an honest verdict, and that house had no authority to review the case. It was said, what had become of Burke and Spillan ? why, the answer was that if they remained in Tipperary they would be torn into a thcusand pieces. It was an important thing to know that the Crown never deserted a witness whose life was jeop.s dised by evidence which he had given. As to Burke having denied his evidence, the fact was this. He had to be removed, and the car driver who conveyed him having some suspicion who he was, said, "Are you the fellow who gave evidence against Cormack ?" His reply was "I am ;" and then upon a supposed conversation between these two, it was assumed that a case tried before a judge and jury and upon evi dence sifted on oath ; the case after the trial was thoroughly investigated ; a period of six weeks was allowed after the sentence was passed, and after the fullest investigation the Lord-Lieutenant did not feel himself justified i❑ interfering with the sentence. Mr. BRADY reviewed the evidence, and contended that it was most unsatisfactory. The subject then dropped. THE CONFESSIONAL IN BELGRA.VIA. Mr. BUTLER asked whether it was the intention of her Majesty's Government to take any steps in conse quence of the practices alleged to have taken place at the confessional in the district of St. Barnabaw, Pimlico ; and the statements that similar practices are being con tinued by other ministers of our church in that neigh bourhood ; and whether her Majesty's government is in communication with the proper ecclesiastical authority, in order to the punishmelit of all who may have taken part in such practices. He had always felt t' - ,at ques tions of a religious character ought al says to be avoided in that house, or, at all events, to be lightly touched upon. The borough he represented bad a population over half a million, and in duty to them he thought he was entitled to this information. He did not wish to say anything of the question in the abstract, as he under stood that an appeal against the decision of the Bishop of London was in the hands of the Archbishop of Canterbury. Mr. WALPOLE had no hesitation in saying that if these practices had taken place, the sooner they were put an end to the better. But there had been doubts and denials as to these practices. This was a subject fir the judicial cognisance of the bishop, and it would be unwise o❑ the part of the Government to express what might bs a premature opinion. THE STATE OF THE THAMES. Mr. R. D. MANGLES said that when he asked a question a few nights ago on this subject, the noble lord (Lord J. Manner-) had told him the matter ro,ted with the Metropolitan Board of Works ; when that body was first established, he, no doubt in common with others, paid the greatest attention to their proceedings, but after a time he found they were of so futile and miserable a character, that he ceased to take the least interest in them. The public papers had even ceased to report them, and left them to their own devices. He was in• formed that the plan this board had as yet devised to abate the existing nuisance was to discharge the whole sewage of London into the middle of the Thames, instead of at the side.. As a proof of the practical wisdom of this body they were at that moment sitting in discharge of their functions—(a laugh)—for their meeting that morning the following notice of motion had been given by Mr. Wright :—" To call attention to the polluted state of the river, and to move that the board will, on a day t) be appointed, proc,ed to inspect it in a steamer to be hired for the purpose." When the whole community was nearly poisoned these gentl emen h a d only got as far as talking of inspection. If they went he hoped they would take a sufficient quantity of brandy with them. It was a great mistake to place a matter of such consequence in the h +ads of a municipal body. It was an imperial question, and they ought not to be ashamed to retrace their step.. This was the greatest and the richest metropolis in the world, and was it possible they c )uld not succeed in free ing themselves from their fi!th 1 (A laugh.) It was no joking matter ; if cholera was to dreadful. t in thisre ful.ho t weather, h the mortality would something When he was a young man the Thames salmon was celebrated, but now there was not a salmon in the river, and all the fish were dying. They had lately erected a noble mansion for the first gentleman in Englind, the right hon. gentleman in the chair. It was now nearly finished, but would any hon. gentleman think it right pr decent to ask him to reside in such an attno , ph , re 1 (Hear, hear). No gentleman would place his worst enemy there. They had spent three hundred millions on railroads, and was it to be said that they could not spend four or five on the river He begged to ask the Chief Commissioner of Works what steps he had taken, or proposed to take, to preserve the health of the members of the two houses of parliament from being destroyed by the [resent pestilential condition of the river Tham, 0, Alderman CUBITT, as f a member of the Bard of Works, wished t o offer a ti.ni of them. Th e fault wa s L w observations in viridica- with parliament- (Hear.) Parliament inve n t e d a scheme appointed the Board of whichwo:ksimp r acticable, was imacticable, ha plan which wa9 a to g o c e a d ri. o y ne it ir o t u l t : scheme The was prepared good. T Works, pl i a n whom n vw the act ; he naturally shrunk from the r es p ons ibili ty, a nd referred the matter to two ported against it, and the Chief Commissioner the plan. The board then directed its e submitted to the Chi e f s Commissioner of a site en t back a by ck engineers. eg They re• neers to pre pare anothtr pl an, which was submitted to responsibi lity the Chi e f i C.,nimiseioner. He again shrank from th i t lity of a veto, and referred the pl , n to three engineers. They considered that as the metropolis was sure t o in crease, the proposed culverts should be big enou g h to carry of the sewage off a city three tioaei as lar ge . Th e report of the engineers was sent back to the board. The estimate for the work was five or six millions, but the board were informed that it would be nearer ten Or eleven, which the boarl would have to raise by a rate on the metropolitan district. With regard to the plin proposed by parliament, he bad very great doubts as to its success. If they were to send the SO millions of gallons of water Jr - awn frem the Thames nest , f London, soele 30 miles down, he feared the effect on the river in dry weather. The que,tion then came, what was to be done ? He thought they ought to dni , ,e some plan by which every gall )u of water would be re turned to the river as clear as it came fr o.n it. He had no doubt such a pan c,uld be found. It would be fair enough to blame the Beard cf Works for not having de vised a plan if they bad been authori s ed to consider the „.. ques!ion . at all. Within the last few weeks a committee bad been sitting cn the subject. A plan of Mr. Golds worthy Gurney had been laid before them which he (Nlr. Cubitt) felt convinced would be a groat auxiliary to any scheme, although it would not do alone. Mr. WARREN would trespass on the house for a few minutes Re had given notice of bis intention to call the attention of the house to the inability of the Metropli tan Board of Works, in respect of preventing the sewage )1 the metropolis from flowing or passing into the River Thames in or near to the metropolis, but the hon. mem ber for Guildford had anticipated him. The right hon. baronet opposite (Sir B. Hall) had carried through Par , liament the bill for the establishment of the Board of as into satisfied exist . w W i t o h r k t s h , e a o n p d e h r m e t i w o o n u s l o d f l t i h k e e b t o o dask he hhoawd called ence ? The bill received the royal assent on the 14th of August, 1855. It provided that before the 31st Decem ber, 1860, the whole of the works should be completed, to prevent the sewage of the metropolis from passinginto the river in or near the metropolis. They were now in June, 1853, yet nothing bad been done except to pro pose three schemes, which all proved abortive. By the first plan of the board the outfall of the sewage was to be at Plumstead ; but as the whole of that parish was within the metropolitan district the plan violated the very act under which the board was constituted. He wished to know whether the Government would take immediate steps for remedying this great and crying evil ; whether they could hold out some hope that this immense metropolis would soon cease to be a scandal to the country, and the focus and centre of disease and death ? Lord J. MANNERS said the hon. member (Mr. Stir ling) had very fairly stated the course of events thus far with regard to the Wellington Monument. In 1856 the artists of all countries were invited to compete ; in 1857 the judges made their award, that award being signed among others by Lord Overstone, the Dean of St. Paul's, and his right hon. friend the member for the University of Oxford. The judges selected the designs for which they awarded the prizes without regarding the question of their adaptation to the site which was than indicated in the cathedral where it was intended to place the monument, and they suggested, and he thought most properly, that before they determined which, if any, of the designs should be selected, the government should consult some architect of eminence as to the local effect which would be produced by the erection of any particular monument in St. Paul's. When he came into office no practical step appeared to have been taken be yond the presentation of the report of the judges. It therefore became his duty to consider which of the de signs wren in his opinion, most worthy of being selected for a monument in St. Paul's Cathedral. In all the dis cus-dons in that house upon art and taste hon. gentlemen and noble lords were apt to dogmatise in a manner which might be pardonable in Spanish Inquisitors pronouncing on matters of Christian faith, but which appeared to him singularly out of plaoe when they were discussing matters of opinion ; and in stating the conclusion at which he had arrived on this subject he wished to guard himself against being supposed to claim infal libility. Under the circumstances he had thought him self bound to act on the recommendation of the judges, that some one competent to advise on the subject should be consulted as to the local effect which would be pro duced by the various designs. No one appeared to him better qualified by position and accomplishments to give advice than Mr. Penrose. (Hear.) They went over the designs together, and the design which they both thought the best was that known as No. 18, the design of Mr. Stephens. They then considered the question of site, and they agreed that the best site for the purpose in view was the chapel at the west end of the cathedral, which had hitherto been used as the Coneistory Court. The dean and chapter had pl iced that chapel at the dis posal of the Government for the erection of the monu ment. (Hear, hear.) One great advantage would be derived from the circumstance of that place being a chapel. His hon. friend had pointed out most truly that in former times it was not thought sufficient in such a case as that under consideration to have recourse to sculpture, but that the sister art of painting was called in aid ; and the selection of a site which had been made would enable them to act on that principle. (Hear.) He proposed that the adaptation of the chapel and its architectural ornamentation should be confided to Mr. Penrose. He thought it advisable, acting on the re commendation of the judges, to call in the assistance of some architect of eminence, and that those gentlemen should form a committee to whom should be confided the execution of a monument worthy of the great duke whom it was intended to commemorate, worthy of the state of English art in the nineteenth century. (Hear.) With regard to the question put by the hon. member for Guildford (Mr. R. Mangled), be was satisfied that he was quite right in the answer which he gave to a similar question the other day, which was, in effect, that so far as the draining of the Thames was con cerned, the First Commissioner of,Works had no power beyond that of vetoing any scheme which might be submitted to him by the Metropolitan Board of Works. The hon, member for Andover (Ar. W. Cubitt), after adm;tting that he had no power over the Thames drainage, had asked him whether he had done, or was prepared to do, anything for the preservation of the health of mem bers while they were sitting in that house. He could only say, in answer to that question that he had that day received from Mr. Gurney a report in which he stated what he proposed to do to carry out hia (Lord J, Manners) wishes on the subject. Mr. Gurney raid—" Sir,—l do not lose a moment in answering your letter received last evening, requesting me to report to the First Commis sioner what is already being done to improve the condi tion of the river Thames, in the neighbourhood of the two houses of Parliament, and alp what, if anything, I pro pose to do in the matter within my jurisdiction. With regard to the river itself there is nothing done, nor can Ido anything Before the meeting of Parliament and during the recess the mud outside the terrace was re• moved ; but during the sitting of the house and while the river is in its present state, the accumulation cannot be moved. In answer to your latter question, I beg to say the insane by which I propose to relieve the river (according to my report to the First Commissioner, printed by order of the house, 12th Dec. last, Sessional No. 21) is now under consideration of a committee of the House of C3mmons. 1 think it right to state for his lord ship's information, that the air entering directly the House of Peers and Commons through the proper venti lating channels is purified from the river effluvia by the spray je's. For the purification of the air cawing in through the windows of the House of Lords and Ooin mons, should either be opened, I have placed canvass ruoieted with a weak solution of chloride of z . ne and lime. The same is being fixed at all the windows likely to be opened towards the river in the libraries and committee rooms." He might inform the hou-e that, in accordance with the recommendation of the noble lord the memberfor Tiverton, which was concurred in by himself, Mr. Gurney had been engaged all that I s lay in distributi ng through the Thames, in the vicinity of the houses of Parliament, four or five boat-loads of lime, and in spreading lime over the mud banks. (Laughter.) Such was the simple means adopted fur the purpose of effect ing the object mentioned by the hon. gentleman, and at present he did not know what more could he done. The question raiscd by his hon. friend was a very large and serious one. He had no hesitation in saying that in his own opinion the provisions of the Local Management Act in reference to the drainage of the Thames and the veto given to the Fret Commi-sioner of Works were not sati:faotory. There was a double government and a di vided responsibility of the most inconvenient kind. A large body of gentlemen, elected by the popular voice, were tied down by the words of an act of Parliament to do a certain thing in a certain way, and by a subsequent section they were prevented from doing that without the approval of the First Commissioner of Works, who had no means of obtaining the beat information on the cute jest. The Board of Works had submitted to the right lion. baronet opposite (Sir B. Hal ) various plans which he had felt it his duty to reject. A new plan had, he believed, been recently propo , ed by the engineer ( f the Metropolitan Board of Works, but it had not yet been brought under his notice. Some change ought to be made, and he should be very happy to confer with any one who could suggest any means by which a useful change might be effected. The difficulty was this—if the Government took upon themselves the drainage of the Thames, at an enormous expense, they could not in j uetice call upon the eastropode to pay for that drainage ; while, on the other hand, if the - metropolis were called upon to do the work, it was but fair that it should do it in what manner it pleased. The responsibility and the bu m rd r. en J. s. must \s b , e o i ß m i p i os E ed y bontihieeved t onerat no g rty or theother. osp t would ever be taken with regard to drainage until the relations of the Government and the Metropolitan Board were placed on a more satisfactory footing, and some one was entrusted with more discretionary power. As regarded the monument to the Duke of Wellington, he would entreat the Noble lord to allow time fur the expression of the opinion of the artistic world and of the community in general with respect to Vie decision which he had announced. There was, he believed, a genera itn•pres • e ion that the designs exhibit e d were any thi ng b ut creditable to English art. Sir B. HALL wished to say a few words with re gard to his own conduct in reference to the drain age of the Thames. Soon after the Metropolitan Board of Works came into i x:stence they presented to him a plan in which the outfali was within the metro politan area, and as that was contrary t ) the act he felt it his duty to reject it. Soon afterwards there came another plan, which he rejected on a similar ground. Considering that both these plans were con trary to the provisions of the act, he thought it was a wise arrangement that all plans had to be submitted to the Firet Commissioner of Works. (Hear ) He than felt it hie duty to put himself iu communication with the Metropolitan Board of Works on the subject. Pre vl'u lY to doing so he obtained from the then Fret Lord of Admiraltyuthe the assistance of Capt. Burstall, and the result was that in December last there was submitted to him a plan in which the outfall was placed at a suffi cient distance from the metr ipolis. He put that plan in the hands of three of the roost eminent engineers in the kingdom, who substituted for it an. ther plan. This last plan he sent to the Metropolitan Board of Works, with an intimation it was worthy of consideration. They ,did c , nsider it ; they referred it to their own engineer and two other gentlemen who were associateri with them. Those gentlemen presented a plan to the Metropolitan Board of Works, but instead of remitting that plan to the noble loaf who succeeded him in office, they passed a resolution deferring the consideration of the subject till October next. He thought the titre was now come when the Government bhould c n•ider whether they .houhl ❑ot take this matter into their own hands and appifint a commissi.n of qualißed per-ons to carry out the obj,ct, subject of course to the approval of the Trea• e lll large .C s O thought t 2o,o h o e o7. ub w l h ic ic ti h a ad ri gb h e t e t n oktlow that raised sury. Lord th E fur this mo n o u sir tn kus e E t, t LL s aLd h E o ü by t e d rynh h o e ur l ag a t i h d hte o trl u , a t hta i n trhd a el ryuivia dealte n t u r mannerwhich iiwith Metropolitan would produce the moot effecti ve resu lt , was not so ea s y t ) purify the Thames ao s an e 'l e °dS r a t ri t tr e dh d jaotf t V o iWt h . e imagined. If, as the hon. member 'aid, i nt o P carry a f main orit drainage should be an imperial undertaking, th e metropol i s would be very l willing ngtoot to b be relieved called lieve dfr o o m The m e tr °pos g far THEbeyond N limits.t A h l e v . r A o ß wn oFßAT su. Mr. COLLIER asked the President of the Board of Control whether it was the intention of her Majesty's Go aj:affibeorf A S l u i r K at h , au t v i ho e ertni Judicial the private to iivaal tce refer no petty te i tlete c y l oo , f i f m tth s hee of pl arNitlveeyeNrc Council ? Lord STANLEY did not think that the house wa, very web inclined to go into the affairs of the Nawab of Surat. (Hear, hear. There was a_ very_conaiderable legal difficulty in the way of the course recommended ; and, as it was his intention to consult the law officers of the Crown, till he received their report he could not 6tate!what course would be pursued. • THE AMERICAN DIFFICULTY. Mr. BRIGHT rose to put a question to the Under- Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs on the subject of the proceedings of the English squadron engaged in the suppression of the slave trade, and with respect to our relations with the United States. He said—l do not wish at all to enter on the discussion of this question, just now exciting so much interest, for I understand that before long an hon. member is likely to submit the whole subject to the consideration of the House of Commons. I must say, my own opinion has always been very much adverse to the position of the armed squadron by which it is attempted to suppress the slave trade, and if such motion as I have alluded to is brought forward I will give it my support. I wish to ask whether the Govern ment has received any information as to this matter which can be laid before the house, to put the house and the country in possession of the position in which we stand, and also give information relative to the appre hensions that exist in this country-and on the other side of the Atlantic, for the influence of any statement by the Government will be felt here and felt there. I think this is one of the cases in which great frankness and openness will be advantageous. There may be a few persons in America and here also who do not object to something like a quarrel, but I think that the great bulk of the people in both countries would take a diffe rent view, and would regret that anything should occur to cause discord between the two countries. (Hear, hear.) Perhaps the noble lord will say how many ves sels have been sent out, whether the number has in creased or decreased since last year? Lord Aberdeen had referred, in the House of Lords, to instructions issued in 184 et, and said that if those instructions had been adhered to no difficulty could have arisen. Ido not know whether any fresh instructions have gone out, but I hardly thiuk that the officers on the station would have committed—l will not say the outrages—but the acts cemplained of. I beg to ask the question now, as the steamer leaves Liverpool to-morrow, and anything that may be said to-night will go out to the United States with the least possible delay. Mr. S. FITZGERALD, who was very indistinctly heard, was understood to say—The hon. member for Birmingham (Kr. Bright), and the hon. member for King's County (Mr. P. O'Brien), have deprecated any minute discussion on this subject, which certainly is one of a delicate nature, and, though I cannot say it has produced alarm, has caus,cl anxiety. I will therefore make a direct statement upon the matter. The honourable member for Birmingham asks me whether I have received any more specific information as to what has occurred. On a former occasion I took an opportunity of saying that the information which had arrived was not official ; and now I say that we have not received such information as will enable me to give a satisfactory answer to that question.. This, how ever, at least I may sey, that there have been such a c mtinued course of pr , ceeoing on the part of our agents there, that I cannot but think that over-zsal may in some instances have led them beyond their instructions. I can only say if that is so, that there will be on the part of the Goverument the must anxious wish if wrong has been done, to meet that wrong with the most candid acknowledgment that it kas been don.. I hope that the time is far distant when this country will give up any right which it conceives itself justly entitled to. But I hope that the time is equally distant when this coun• try from any false pride will refuse to acknowledge when she is in the wrong. (Hear, hear.) As to the question whether I have received any additional information, I trust that the statement I have made will be so far satis factory. There is one other point on which I will make one or two observations ; and I will du so principally because I think it will justify not only the hope I ex press, but the coefidence that these circumstances, which have hitherto had this anxious character, will be satis factorily arranged. I wish to state this in justice to our officers aliroad, that, though there may have been in stances of over zeal which have led officers to exceed the bounds of discretion, yet it is obvious from all that has come to our knowledge, that it is perfec ly clear that those statements of what have been termed British out rages have been most grossly exaggerated. I will not at this period of the evening enter Into an explanation of the circumstances that induce me to hold that opi nion, but I will say that in the last pubLcation of one of the New York papers, and which have been copied into every journal in this kingdom, there appears this state ment, that 32 American vessels had been detained and searched ; and these proceedings go under the name of British outrages. I may state what this outrage turned out to be. The brig C. F. O'Brien which was said to have been outraged, " was boarded on the 2.1 of May in the harbour of Segue la Grande, by an armed boat from a British steamer. The boat pulled alongside without hailing, and boarded without asking permission to do so. The usual questions as to the name, ownership, and de stination of the vessel were asked and answered, and the captain was requested to produce his papers, These, he informed the officers, were at the office of the Ameri can Consulate: He made no further search of the ves sel, and having satisfied his curiosity, departed. His behaviour was civil, and no threat or intimidation was suggested. This is only one ; and as to the Escort, and as to another vessel, there is a similar statement —" Shp EBC irt, from Havre to New Orleans, when off the south side of Cuba, the wind being quite light, a British steamer ranged alongside, and her commander said that he wished to communicate with the ship if her captain had no objection. (Haar, hear.) Captain Bryant said he would he happy to receive any communications the steamer pleased to make. The ship was not re quested to heave to, but the steamer ranged a-head of tee ship and dropped a beat cvnich came aloags de. An officer fruits her went on hoard, asked where the ship was from and bound, but made no request to see her papers. He stated that the steamer was from Port Royal, Ja maica. and wai then under sealed orders, to be opened off Cape May. The officer asked if he could reader the ship any service, and being thanked retnrned to his boat. Caytain Bryant states that from first to last the conduct of tee steamer, her officers, and men was friendly. He states, moreover, that the ship's hold might have been filled with negroes for aught the officer seemed to care. His visit was not prying in any tense.. Captain Bryai.t could not call to mind the name of the steamer a i.hout referring to the ship's log. The brig Pulaski, Captain Hawthorn, from Cienfuegos, arrived here la -t evening, and reports that on the 11th inst., in lat. 23 deg. 21 mite, long. 83 deg. 34 min., she was hailed from a British war steamer, barque-rigged, and asked where she was from and hound, but was not re quested to heave to, nor was she boarded, nor did the steamer fire at her. Captain Hawthorn, says the com mander of the steamer, conducted himself just as any decent shipmaster would when speaking ano.ner vessel at sea." " Tue brig Eliza Merrithew, Captain Gordon, from Sagua la Grande, arrived here yesterday afternoon. While at Sagua her captain says she was not troubled by the British, and he believes that two-thirds of the stories in cireulatiou about outrages, &c., are male out of old cloth." Übe next statement I wish to refer to is by Captain Coins, boarding officer of the Merchant Exchange at Bos ton. He says that he has conversed freely with the mas ter and crew of every vessel that has arrived, and not ate of thetn has been damaged to the amount of one cent; and in two cases where ve-sels aro said to have been fired at, neither the crew nor the mates knew any thing about it. (A laugh.) It is further stated that the British officers appeared moat auxi ,us to avoid giving offence. Ido not wish to throw doubts on the bona fides of the American government, cr to doubt for one moment that they thought that they had grounds for the representations which they have made; but I only want to put this before the house in justice to the officers a hose conduct is impegned, and to show the reason I have for the confident hope that this menacing state of circumstances may be equitably and justly ar reriged. Another circumstance is, that from the docu ments laid before the Congress by the American Govern ment it would appear that. the abuse of the American flag hair been great. (Hear.) What I mean is, that the American flag has been made use of by those who are not Americans, and who have no right to use it, and that it has been prostitwed in the vilest manner. (Hear ) I cannot help thinking that when these circumstances are brought to the knowledge of the American Govern ment, and when they find that this Government is dis posed to act in a conciliatory spirit, they on the other side of the water will meet us in - a similar spirt. As to the right of search, it has always been a constant source f irritation between the two countries ; the right has never been admitted Ly the Americans, and consequently it became our duty, in the face c f circumstances so se rious as those brought before us, to ascertain exactly what were our rights ; if we had rights, that we might be prepared to stem' by them, and if not, that we might acknowledge our error. Consequently we took the ad vice of the law efficient of the Crown, and it is their de cided opinion that by international law in tine of peace we have to right of search, and that being the case, It would be unbecoming to delay acknowledging this for one moment to the American Government. It would, however, be wrong that we should be called on at once to cease our efforts to put down the slave trade. The course taken by the English Government is what has been lad do en by Gen. Cass, who says : " A merchant vessel upon the high seas is protected by her national character. He who forc.bly enters her does so upon his own responsibility. Undoubtedly, if a vessel as sume a national ci erecter to which she is not entitled, and is sailing under false colours, she cannot be protected . by the assumption of a nati o n a lity to whi c h s h o h as no clean?. As the identity of a person must bedetermined by the offi• cor bearing a p roc es s f or hi s arres t, an d d e t erm ined at the risk of such officer, so must the national identity of a vessel be detertninecl at the like hazard to him who, doubting the flag she displays, searches her to ascertain her true charac ter. There, no doubt, may be circumstances which would go far to modify the complaints a nation weald have a tight to make for such a violation of its sovereignty. If the boerdiae officer had just grounds for suspicion, and de ported himself with propriety in the performance of f his task, doing no injury, a d peaceably retiring when sa fied of his error, no nation would make such an act the subject of serious reclamations." That is the position we are entitled to take by inter national law ; it is that which this American gentleman has him ielf acknowledged, and that is the course which it will be the duty of our ciui,ers in those seas to pur sue for the future. Tie hon. gentleman has asked me whether any addition has been male to our fleet in the Cuban waters ? During the time that this government has been in (Ace there has been no increase of the fleet it those waters, and I may say further that it has come under the consideration of the government whether the continuance a this squadron in the Cuba❑ waters has answered the objet which we have in view, and whether there were not attached to the continuance of that fleet in the Cuban waters other objections of a different kind ? The maintaining a squadro❑ on the coast of Africa is a differ,nt question to that of maintaining a squadron on the Coast of Cuba. The squadron off Cuba iq in the highway of American commerce, and there would always JUNE l9, 1858. he most serious risk of misunderstanding in cases of member for London. Thebestanswerto theviolent speeches vessels in such seas, whereas, on the coast of Africa, in the American Senate was to be found in the calm and dis where commerce is much more scattered, it was much passionate manner in which English statesmen expressed easier at once to ascertain the character of suspicious their opinion on the subject. Without conceding the vessels than where they mere among a number of other principle to which the noble lord had alluded, and which vessels pursuing lawful commerce. It is therefore under had not been conceded, the (the Ministers) had written to the consie station of the government whether it is - . s the American Government telling them of the abuses of not much more desirable at once to vrithdrave that squadron ? The original plan of having a squadron their flag and the abuses that had been committed, and there was adopted on the suggestion of the American asking them to confer on some mode by which those government, and neither they nor ourselves at that time ' abuses might be corrected. They had not, as yet, received saw the objections that it was liable to. The last an answer to that proposition, but he was induced to think question is whether any additional instructions have I it would be received by the American government in the lately been sent out ? In reference to that question there I spirit in which it had been sent. He believed that the go are the instructions referred to by the hon. member for vernment of the United States would feel convinced that Birmingham, which were issued during Lord Aberdeen's the interests of civilisation required that a united course government. My right hon. friend at the head of the Ad- should be determined on. So far from being annoyed, he miralty found it reecessary since he came into' ace to give should rejoice at hearing of American ships of war being in even more stringent instructions for enjoining greater caution and discretion on our cruisers on the coast of , the waters of Cuba, as their crews would see what was Cuba. Whether there were any instructions i n th e mean taking place, and would act with the promptitude and time which gave rise to increased vigilance on the part good faith to which tho noble lord the member for Tiver. of our cruisers, lam not disposed to say ; but I can say ton had borne witness. Another reason he had for hoping for the present Government that our earliest efforts a satisfactory solution of the present difficulty was, that were directed to enjoining the greatest caution and in all great questions of policy as between the two nations, prudence on the part of those engaged. I can only fur- the government of the United States and her Majesty's ther say that, expressing as I am sure I do, ant only the ministers were in complete accord. People in this country sentiments of every gentleman in the house, but of the . . . witnessed without any jealousy, the expansion of the people of this country, that a more fatal thing to the , ' United States, nor did we find in the general tenor of civilisation and happiness of the world oould not occur than a misunderstanding between ourselves and the American policy any cause of di s t r u s t. A n d f ee li ng th a t United States ; and I believe that meeting the case as there was, generally speaking, amongst the public men of we are disposed to do in this candid spirit, the Aceeri- America a desire to cultivate friendly relations with the can people, when they know the truth, I believe, I may government and people of this country, they did not allow say, I confidently hope, that these differences will be any occasional ebullitions like those which had of late satisfactorily settled. (Cheer.) prevailed to induce them to believe that the established Mr. ROEBUCK said, that from the position he held policy would be disturbed. The matter now in dispute in the house he thought it advisable for him, very hum- was only of a very transient character, although there was bly, to express the views he entertained on this question. no doubt but that if it were treated in an irritable spirit He did not think the time of night was any obstacle to it might be more dangerous than its original character had his stating it. He thought that if p ro p er ly u n derstood led people to expect. Mr. WARRE said that if ou r squa d ron were t o b e with by the American people it wou ld l ea d th em t o a v er y different conclusion to th a t w hi c h th e y now entertained. drawn from the Cuban w a te rs , an d th e A mer i cans sea t no other in its place, there wo u ld, h e f eare d, b e di rec t en - At the present time th ere were t wo peop l es a t th e h ea d couragement given to the sl a v e t ra d e . of the civilisati on of th e wor ld, an d th ey were go i ng on Mr. FITZGERALD said that the withdrawal of our in their course towards civilising mankind ; they were squadron had not yet been decided upon; it was as yet identical in language, they had the same institutions, under consideration. and nearly the same government ; they were derived ASSISTANT BARRISTERS (IRELAND). from the same origin, and were, in fact, one nation. If Mr. I. BUTT asked the Attorney-General for Ireland in the course of these two peoples any obstruction arose, whether it was the intention of the Irish Government to it would be the business of those who wished well to man- bring in any bill to make better provision for the retirement kind to brush away that obstruction, and to keep these of assistant banisters, and whether any such measure had two peoples friends. He thought the statement of the been prepared either by the present or late advisers of the hon. gentleman was in accord a nc e w ith th a t sen ti men t. Irish Government 1 suffered Lord lsitnenlArlsnllfriot wasfrom a o f felt retention o the o f interests te :, He had in the most conciliatory manner stated the views of our Government on this question. No one word had as sistant barristers to an advanced age, in cons i e r q s u e e a nce o y f the fallen from his lips, either derogatory to this country or absence of . any retiring allowance. If time permitted, Go insulting to America. (Cheers.) He had sh own th roug h- vernment w ould introduce a bill to remedy the evil dui, out that he understood the delicate position in which we ing the present session. were placed, and he knew well the great, he might nay, NETLEY HOSPITAL. the overwhelming, duty that was now impressed on both Mr. TITE asked the Secretary of State for War when nations in this behalf. He was quite prepared to allow the reports of the commissioners on the hospital at Netley the great destine, sof America ; he believed that they would be laid on the table of the house, and whether any were intended to be the great leaders of mankind ;he steps had been taken to suspend the works, or any part believed that by t-ie position of their:country, their in- thereof? The hon. member stated that although the healthiness of the site of the hospital had been admitted, stitutioos, and by their character which they had de there were many faults in the design which required con rived from us, they were intended to be the leaders of h ro og r d the lan i r a o d r works a w n ouldnot mankind. But he vas not one of these who wished to rweietthwunntilHaep derogate from the character or dignity of England, and Sir F. SMITH defended the design arran ged. ofthe hospital, and he said the language used in the American congress on General PEEL said that the reports asked for would be this matter was not worthy of gentlemen at the head of laid on the table in a week or ten days. With respect to a great nation. There had been more of the Ancient alterations in the design, the officer who had charge of the Pieta and of Bobadil kind of talk than became a works had received orders to suspend that portion in which great nation. They had always assumed that England alteration was contemplated, until such alteration had desired to insult her, but the speech of the hon. gentles been decided upon. man to-night showed th a t we did no t d es i re t o d o any- This FUNDE bill was read a se and E ti BTme. BILL. thing to give offence to our brethren over the water, that we were d es i rous o f ma i n t a i n i ng our own di gn i ty, SALE AND TRANSFER OF LAND (IRELAND) and that we did no t i n t en d to woun d t h e i r ' s at a l l. H e BILL. said these few w or d s , b ecause h e h a d rea d w i t h The house went into committee on thi s bill. great Onthethird clause, in which Governme n t h a d i nser t e d pain the senti rents made by leading m en i n A mer i ca . the appointment ofathird judge, He said that we a c ti ng as a grea t peop l e h a d on l y d esire d Mr. MALINS objected, considering that two would be to put down that which we believed to be the great blot sufficient. on humanity, the slave trade—(hear)—and that in order After a short discussion the clause was agreed to. to do this, we had given instructions to our sailors. If, On clause 4, in the heat of the moment, and in the desire to do their Mr. MALINS moved an amendment to leave out the duty, young men had been induced to go beyond the words at the end of the clause, making the qualification line, would a great people, a friendly people, have made 15 years' actual practice at the Irish bar ; his object being that a reason for i n d u l g i ng i n a b use o f t h e county to make the qu a lifi ca ti on , as it was i n E ng l and, 15 years ' y from which they supposed those instructions had ems- standing t at the bar. The words as they stood would ac nated ? He believed that our force had merely done excludeCountryw a gentleman inc t edor autco success ahoorf this it was said the their duty, and that the blustering statements about the Hargrave—who never practised at c ' the Irish bar, and he matter were not true. The honourable gentleman believed never held a brief in the English courts having employed a cant phrase to signify that they were not been previous to his appointment a conveyancer. true, but he would use a shorter phrase, and he hoped The SOLICITOR-GENERAL. Mr. WHITRSIDR (who denied. it would go across the water—they bad told lies, and that the whole benefit of the measure was due to Mr. Har grave, who was, ho we v er , i n o b e di ence t o t h e general wish, those lies had been told for the purpose si m ply o f pan dering to bad habits. He was sure that the English specially retained), and other members, opposed the people wished to entertain kindly feelings towards Arne, am i s l i e din am en en t 4 ; im a e n n d i a w f a te s r n s e om at e iv d e i t s i cussion, Tilea, He was sure that the people of England wished to Sir D. NORREYS thous they ought to have the power employ their great power—for we possessed great power, of securing the services of the best lawyer they could get, though we did not beast of it—in the service of mankind, whether he were English or Irish, and he proposed that (Hear.) If we wished toput down the slave trade, it was the clause should be altered for that purpose. He believed not that he wished to hurt anybody, but to do what we as a rule the lawyers of this country were deeper read than could for the benefit of mankind. We might have iiiju- those of Ireland, the reason being that in Ireland gentle dicious and generous officers, but he did not believe one- men of the legal profession practised generally in all the half nor one-tenth of the stories that had been told, and branches of the law, while in Englsnd they confined their he would not believe that Englishmen had done aught practice to separate branches. He moved that the last that called on th e G overnmen t t o bl ame th em f or t h e i r sentence of the clause should b e a lt ere d b y i nser ti ng t h e conduct in the matter. He was sure that the people of 7 b o a r l s l i,;aor practisedWestmilaster ," it would then read, " . who the superior courts of Dublin or England in this matter would maintain that great posi- Westminstr." tion which they had ever hell. They were not to be Mr. WALPOLE suggested that the question should be bullied out of their rights ; they did not wish to main- deferred until the report. fain power they ought not to have, and they did not de- After a few words from Mr.:BAGWELL, sire to do anything to incur the hostility of America, or The committee divided— aoytbing to wound the feelings of our relatives over the For the amendment water; but while they would do all things proper to Against it conciliate those on the other side of the Atlantic, they Majority -----87 would take care of th e i r own h onour an d di gn it y. The clause was then agreed t o , as were clauses 5-12. Lord J. RUSSELL th oug ht th a t th ere was no doubt On clause 13, Mr. HAMILTON stated that the court would be self that the house would give the credit due to the Govern- supporting, a tax being imposed upon the laud sold through wont. (Hear.) With regard to the facts of the case, it the medium of the court. As it had been decided that appeared that there was much that yet remained to be there were to be three judges, it was proposed that Mr. known. The instructions, as ho understood, had not been otherM tle t y w s o ho u td ea cotAnz t a o receive 3,0001. '131,00 Whena y jN e r a r r,l,n ar d t l e le e altered since 1811, except so far as this, that there had been ceased to hold the office, the ' judges would receive 2,5001. Y additional instructions advising caution. The original in- each. structions were issued by Lord Aberdeen, after a great Mr. W. WILLIAMS asked whether the officers of the deal of cons u lt a ti on w ith p ersons f u ll y competent to advise old court were to be pensioned ? and among oth ers D r . L us hi ng t on, and those instructions Mr. WHITESIDE said that every one of them wou ld be employed in the new court. were framed i n th e most temperate spirit, and they were The clause was agreed to. he believed communicated to the Government of the On clause 19, providing for the retiring allowances of United States. For fifteen years those instructions had the judges, Mr. WILSON asked if they would be entitled to the been acted on in the most amicable spirit ; and the ques allowance after a certain number of years' service. tion occurred, whether these complaints had arisen from Mr. WHITESIDE could inform the hon. gentleman increased vigilance, perhaps an over -stepping of duty on that, whatever might be the case in England, it was not the part of the commanders of British cruisers, or from the practice for the judges to retire. (Laughter.) the unwillingness of the Americans to submit to the exe- The clause was then agreed to. cation of those instructions, which for fifteen years had glaauussees2llwtaos3exnged. been punctually carried out. In th es fi rs t p l ace, it was the On clause 31,0 were agreed to. duty of the Government to restrain the overzsal of any Mr. DOBBS proposed that 72 words instead of 90 should commander, and, as the hon. gentleman had said, it became constitute the folio of the court. us - as a great nation, to repair any wrong which we might The committee divided-- For the amend men t have done ; but on the other hand, it would b e f or th e wis- Against don of the Government to devise, in concert with the Majority —los American government such measures as might be necessary Clause 31 was then agreed to. He thought that this was clear, that General Cass, on the On clause 31, part of the American Government, felt that it might be " Sir E. PERRY mov e d t o i nser t th e f a ll ow i ng wor d s : , nec essary to ascertain the nationality of vesse l s on the high And generally th e exam i na ti on as t o a ll disputed factsshall be according to th e ru l es o f common l aw .' s eas. By the law of nations, or the comity o f na ti ons, this The SOLICITOR-GENERAL res i s t e d th e proposa l, p o wer was always exercised, that on meeting a merchant on the ground that in many cases the mode of proceed vessel you require her to show her flag, and might test her ing by effidavits was preferable ; but power was given to nationality. It would nev er d o for the American nation in employ viva voce examinations whenever it was thought carrying on their commerce in the Chinese seas, where proper. piracy prevailed, after a pirate vessel had plundered an The words were then negatived, and the clause was American vessel, and perhaps murdered her crew, that agreed to. that pirate vessel on being met should only have to hoist a Mr. BUTT moved to omit clause 38, which gave the British ensign, and that that flag should protect her from judges of the court power to try issues of fact. Those any examination on the part of American commanders, learned gentlemen h a d h a d no exper i ence a t n i s i pr i me , offioue be fully occupied by the proper As the hon. gentleman had justly said,here wore two great and duties th e o i f r t t h i le mould nations having the sines purpose. He did not think that Mr. WHITESIDE defended the clause on the ground too much weight should be attached to speeches made even of its similarity to a similar provision in the Probate in the American Congress ; lee believed it was the interest Act. of these two great nations engaged in the same work, and Mr. MILLER supported the clause. The power pro be hoped to hear that it was not their purpose to deviate posed t' be given was a most essential one. from that line of policy which we had now followed for so After some conversation, many years, he meant the suppression of th e s l ave trade. The amendment was negatived without a di v i s i on , , He only wished further to state the ple a s ure h e h ad had and the a use agreed to. in hearing the temperate and proper spee c h o f th e hon. Mr. BUTT On clause 40, gentleman opposite. moved to add certain words to give an appeal to the full court from any ruling or order of a Lord PALMERSTON—As some question had arisen as single judge. Such an appeal would be especially to the cruisers sent out to suppress the slave trade on the necessary in new trial motions. coast of Cuba, he must remind the house that that arrange- Mr. vnirrsE [DE could not adopt the amendment. went had been adopted in deference to the frequently ex- The appeal to the Court of Chancery was sufficient. pressed wish of Parliament, and in consequence of frequent There would be no advantage in establishing an inter deputations which came to members of the late Government mediate appeal. urging that that course should b o a d o pt e d. Th e Under - Mr. Sergeant DEASY opposed the amendment. If S ecre t ar y of St a te f o r Foreign Affairs also r em i n d e d the adopted it would onlylead to a waste of the judges' . house that the plan was suggested an d counse ll e d by t.' he time and the parties money. On clause 41, regul Sting the proceeding in appeals, American Government itself ; therefore there was nothing Mr. MALINS thought the time, thirty days, allowed in that proceeding not founded on good grounds. It was for appealing was too short. He moved to extend the always to be expected that those whose traffic was thus in. period to three months. ' terfered with should endeavour to raise a cry, and ho hoped After a conversation the amendment was adopted and that it would turn out that the complaints which we had the clause agreed to. discussion, was 47, after some agreed to. hoard so much of had origin a t e d very much from such a Clause been agreed to, source. It was just to th e A mer i can Government to say Cl auses 48 an d 50 leaving that they had always not only expressed but manifested T he CHAIRMAN reported progress the same feeling, and that th ey h a d STANHOPE AND WALSINGHAM RECTORIES acted up to th e i r en - BILL. i gagements in regard to th e suppression of that most Th abominable crime, the sl ave t rade. The American Go- s bill was read a third time and passed. COWLEY'S CHARITY BILL — HARVEY'S vernment lead by l aw ma d e i t an offence liable to the CHARITY BILL. highest punishment ; and when the American Congress Theee bills passed through committee. co-operated with the British Government in the suppres- BRISTOL MUNICIPAL CHARITIES BILL. sion of the slave tra le the American officers did their duty This bill also passed through committee. in the most efficient and amicable manner. (Hear.) There PO RTEN DIG AND ALBREDA. CONVENTION. were many instances of the American officers preventing On the motion of Sir E. BUL\VEII LYTFON, leave by their own actio n th e a b use o f their flag by Portuguese was given to bring in a bill to remove d ou b ts as to t h e operation of a core vention between her M a j es t y an d t h e and Spanish b an dit s an d s l ave dealers of all nations. He quite agreed with Li s no bl e fi lend the member for London, Emperor of the French relative to P or t eu di c an d Al that it would b e qu it e i mposs ibl e to admit the naked rein- brew'. RAILWAYS ACT (IRELAND) CONTI NUANCE. ciple that h o i s ti ng a fl ig was to bo taken as conclusie o Lord NAAS obtained leav e t o b r i ng i n a bill to con proof o f th e vesse l' s nationelity. It was well known that tinue the Railways Act (Ireland) 1851, fn roe ships carri e d th e flags of ev er y coun t ry t o b e use d as e ig- Th e h o u se a dj corned at 20 minutes to one.n year. nals, and if they were allowed to identify themselves with ,„„_-.—..,—.............._.-... whichever of these fl egg suited their purpose, commercial nations would soon find the effect in the insecurity of their trade. He did not understand the Under -Secretary for Foreign Affairs to admit the principle to that extent. His right lion. friend the late First Lord of the Admiralty in formed him that his instructions hail been sent to the cruisers on the coast of Cuba differing from those in the circular of Lord Aberdeen. These instructions, be (Lord I'altnerston) believed had been framed in co-operation with the American Government. He presumed that if any fresh instructions were now seat, their purport would be communicated to the house. [ADVERTISEMENT.]—HoIIoway's Pills an indisputable Remedy for Indigestion.—ln the remotest districts of the United Kingdom the renown of th , si Pills is daily, indeed hourly sustained. Mr. David Lewis, of Llangtfelach, suffered severely from indigestion, and c thsequent severe pains in the stomach fur six months. The neighbouring medical men failing to cure him, be at length had recourse to Holloway's Pills, by the regular and pir , evering employment of which all his distressing, and at times unbearable aches and pains were removed, and he is now perfectly cured.—Sold by all medicine vendors throughout the world ; at Professor Holloway's establishment', 244, Strand, London ; and 80, Maiden-lane, Now York ; by A. Stampa, Con s antinople; A. Guidicy, Smyrna; and E. Muir, Malta. Tho CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had beard with great satisfaction the observations of the noble lord the Country Markets. LIVERPOOL, JUNE 13. Thore was again a very poor attendance to-day, and both wheat and flour were a very slow sale, at about Tuesday'll prices. Oats and oatmeal neglected. Earley, beans, and peas the turn lower. Indian corn in small demand at 31i 9d to 35s for yellow, and 33s 6d to 31s for white. WAKEFIELD-JUNE 18. There has been a steady demand for wheat at Friday's rates. The show was not large. Beans a dull sale. Bar ley also quiet. Oats and shelling as before. AVERAGES FOR THE WBEIC ENDING JUNE 11, 1853. Wheat 1351 quarters, at 43s 10id Barley lO ~ 30s Od Oats lO ~ 301 6d Beans - ~ —s Od Peas — ~ —s Oct EXETER-Jurrx 18. CORN.—Wheat, 5s Ed to 5s 6d ; barley, 4s to 4s 3d grinding do., 0 Od to Os Od. Oats, 2s 6d to 2s 9d. Beans, Os Oto 0 Od. Peas, 00s Od to 008 Od. FLOUlt.—Fine, 30s Od to 32s Od; seconds, 28s Od to 30 Od per sack. CATTLE. —There was a fair supply of bullocks. Best beef, from Os Od to lOs Od per score ; inferior, 7s to 8s per score; fat calves, 5d to 51d per lb • barrenners, Os Od to 0 4 Od. per score ; cows and calves, 12/. to 181. t s ; butchers' calves, Od to 7d per lb., rearing calves —s to s each; sheep, ewes and lambs, 21. 5s to 21. los per couple; ewes, Od to 6d; wethers, 7d —d; lambs, 7d to7ld per lb. Pigs, large size, —s to —s; second size, —s to —s ; slips, ---41 to ; suckers, —s to —a. Rough fat, 4d per lb. Pork carcases from 8s Od to 9s Od per score. BRISTOL SUGAR-JUNE 18. The market has been very firm this week, with a stead,' demand both from refiners and grocers, but we are not able to quote any advance. The transactions since our last comprise about 1,000 hhds West India, 500 hhds Porte Rico, and 2,000 mats Mauritius, but we are not aware that any business has been done in floating cargoes. Refiners' produce sells freely, and former prices are fully supported for all descriptions. Rum continues dull, and prices aro the turn lower. COURSE OF EXCHANGE.-YESTBRDAY. tm5terc1ani...........• 11 15 1 4 Gibraltar •• •• •• •• • • Ditto. three months .. 11 17 Leghorn ....•• .• 99 55 Rotterdam •• •• •• •• •• •• 11 l7yj Genoa ... 25 40 Antwerp •• •• •• •• •• •• 25 3*i Milan .••••••••• •• •• •• Brussels •• •• • • •• •• •• • • 25 32% Venice • • • • •• .. • • Gamburgh •• •• •• •• •• • • 13 7IA Naples -••• • • •• •• Aitona .. ••••••.••• •• •• . • Palermo ***** ••• •• Paris. ••••••• m• •• • • .••. 25 7 Messina • •• •• Do. three months .• •• 25 321, Niarseilles ............ 25 32% 3ourdeaux •• • • •• • . • • «•• Frankfort-on-Maine 118% Berlin •• .• » •• .. • • •• »• • Vienna,— •• •• •• •• •• •• .. 10 27 rrieste•• •• •• •• •• •• •• •• 10 28 Petersburg •• • • •• •• •• 35 % Vladrid •••••.• •• • L 1 . • 49l Cadiz ••••••••• •• •• 1.10 • • 49.% Barcelona •• •• •• •••• •• • • Seville • • • ... • • • • • ..... • • 41% 125% 126 5! 52% Lisbon .. Oporto ...... .•... •• i Rio Janeiro Buenos Ayres..•• •• •• New York,6o days' sight Philadelphia ?BACKS Or EIILLION, PYI 0= Foreign Gold In Bars La 17 9 Portugal Gold Coin .. 0 0 0 Mexican Dollars,,.. 0 0 0 New D011ar5....... 0 0 0 Silver in bara 0 0 0 RAILWAY TRAFFIC RETURNS. TRAFFIC RETURNS FOR THE WEEK. Miles Receipts. opened, NAME OF RAILWAY. 1858. 1858. 1857. --____- BRITISH. X S Aberdeen ........ •••••• .. • • .. ..... - - 65 Belfast and Ballymena .. .• • . .., ...... 1,032 1,067 17 Belfast and County D0wn............ 32 Birkenhead, Lancashire, and Cheshire 2,264 3,101 26 % Bolton,l3lackburn,and West York .... - - 16 Bristol and Exeter • • .... 198% Ca1ed0nian............. ............ 12,282 13,036 94 ;ii Chester and Holyhead..... •......... 5,455 5,783 C 4 Cork, Blackrock, and Passage ••• • • • 271 226 20 Cork and Bandon .. • • .............. 297 341 56 Dublin and Belfast T unction .. .... 1,166 1,152 63 Dublin and Drogheda... ... ......... 1,674 1,589 40 Dublin and Kingstown .............. 1,977 1,685 17 Dundee and Arbroath .............. 604 571 31 , Dundee, Perth, and Aberdeen Junction 1,059 1,142 36 Dundalk and Enniskillen .....• • • • • .. 382 434 67)‘ East Angdan...... -••••••- •• - • • - 854 1,000 I 99 East Lancashire .................... 6,319 9,892 489 1 Eastern Counties and N0rf01k....:: 25,605 26,213 Eastern Union ..... 142 Edinburgh and Glasgow .• ••• .• ...... 5,612 5,806 78 Edinburgh, Perth, and Dundee...... 3,010 3,182 6 Exeter and Crediton.. • • .....• ...... - - 22 Furness Railway ... .............. - - 183% Glasgow, and South-Western........ 7,260 7,241 283 Great Northern 203 % Great Southern and Western (Ireland) 6,081 6,466 465 Great Western .... • ... • • .......... 30,548 34 058 25 % Irish South Eastern ................ - - 100 Lancaster and Carlisle •• • ........... 6,692 6,709 286 4 Lancashire and Y0rk5hire............ 23,770 24,377 - Leeds Northern .................... - - 16 1 Liverpool, Crosby, and Southport•• .. - - 6 53 London and North Western ......... 45,673 62,612 5% London and Blackwall• ••• • • • ....... 1,652 1,873 183% London, Brighton, and South Coast.. 14,690 15,119 289 % London and South We5tern......... 17,150 19,932 60 Londonderry and Enniskillen ........ 723 702 - Manchester, Buxton, and Matlock, &c. - - 173% Manchester, Sheffield ,and Lincolnshire 10,011 10,016 9 )4 Manchester and South Junction...... 845 1.242 28 Maryport and Carlisle •••••••• - . • .. 900 1.036 667 Midland .... .. ........ • • .......... 30,343 29,938 17 7 Midland Great Western (Irish) ...... 4,146 4,937 52 - - 78 Newcastle and Car1i51e............... - - 149 North British .... ••••••• • • • .. ...... 4,948 4,947 233 North Staffordshire • • •............. 6,584 11,345 47 North-Western •• .. 5 0 Scottish Central • • • • • • • • .. • • • . • • .... - - 32% Scottish Midland ........ • • ........ - -- 29 Shrewsbury and Birminghata .....• 1,577 1,7 97 48)4 Shrewsbury and Chester ............ 2,606 2,918 30 Shropshire Union .. - ......•....... 1,055 1,069 57 South Devon ... ••• • .. ...... .. .. .... 2,664 2,817 301% South Eastern ... ................... 18,376 19,069 171 South Wales .................... 6,770 7,198 108% South York., Doncaster, and Goole .. 2,639 2,047 53 Taff Vale •••••.•• • • - - .. • ......... 4,047 - 36 Ulster .•....•.... .. .. . • ............ 1,378 1,4 5 1 77 Waterford and Limerick ........... 1,186 1,17 2 27 West Cornwall ...... •..... ....... 631 697 12% Whitehaven Junction ............... 487 443 682 York and Newcastle, and Berwick & York and North Midland & Leeds.. - -- FOREIGN. 108 Dutch Rhenish .................... 2,794 3,526 - Lyons and Mediterranean .......... - - Montereau and Troyes .............. - -- 63 Namur and Liege .................. - - 539 Northern of France .......... .. .- Orleans and Central .. - - - Paris and Lyons - - - Paris and Rouen. - - 979 Paris and Strasburgh .... •• • • - •••• - Rouen and Havre • • ............. - .... 621 West and North-West of France - -ir 1,451 1,172 697 442 - 3,541 , [ADVERTISIIMENT.]—If to thos3 wh ) remove the greatest amount of human misery and promote in the highest degree the susi of human happiness, the highest 'need of praise end gratitude is due, it would be hard to point to any man se eminently deserving of that meed as Mr. Du Barry, the dis coverer of the now celebrated Revalenta Arabica Food. The good effected by others, whether patriots, politicians, or what not, may be problematical, may be probable, it is at all events, matter of hypothesis. The good done by Mr. Da Barry is tangible, undoubted, unquestionable. Also of Fifty' Thousand of his countrymen—men of title and rank, and men of lowliness and obscurity; men of learning and men of sim plicity ; ministers of the gospel and men of the camp and the armament : have, in their several styles and forms, forwarded to him their ardent expressions of thankfulness for rescue from pain and disease. In the following disorders, the efficacy' of this Food has been found unvarying and unrivalled ; dys pepsia (indigestion), constipation, functional, irregularity, obstructions, acidity, cramps, spasms, fits, h ear tburn, diarrhoea, nerviousness, biliousness, affections of the liver and kidneys, flatulency, distention, palpitation of the heart, nervous headache, deafness, noises in the head and ears, giddiness, plane between the shoulders end in almost every part of the body, chronic inflammation and ulceration of the stomach, eruptions on the skin, scurvy,fever, scrofula, impurities, poverty of blood, consumption (if not beyond human aid), dropsy, rheumatism, gout, influenza, grippe, nausea and vomiting during pregnancy, after eating, or at sea, low spirits, spleen, general debility, paralysis, cough, asthma, tightness across the chest, phlegm. • inquietude, sleeplessness, in foluutary blushing, tremors dui like to society, unfitness for study, delusions, loss of memory, vertigo, blood to the head, exhaustious, melancholy, gro unds less fear, indecision, wretchedness, thoughts of self-destruc tion, & We shall not here refer individually to any of the cases of cure, but merely observe that the aggregate results, certified and avouched, contain the most extensi ve, authentic, and convincing body of evidence ever prese n t e d to the world upon any subject whatever. Nothing in the medical annals of ancient or modern times approaches it in com pleteness, whilst its grand distinguishing mark is, that the entire is susceptible of such easy application, And perfectly establishes Mr. Du Barry's title to be can' sidered (in the language of several of his correspon; dents) " the greatest living benefactor of his roe. Supported by testimonials from the following selebratod Pro fessors of Chemistry: Dr. A. Me; Dr. Shorland; Dr. Harvei: Dr. Campbell ; Dr. Gattiker ; Dr. Wurzer ; Dr. Ingrain Lord Stuart de Decies; the Dowager Countess of Caatlestuart , Major Gan. Thomas King, and many other respectable per" sons, whose health has been restored by it, after all other means of cure had failed. Suitably packed with full instruc tions, In canisters, 11b. 2s, 9d.; 21b. 4s. 6d.; 51b. ii.. ; 121 b. 225. The 121 b canisters aro sent carriage free on re• ccipt of Post-office order. Barry Dn Barry, and Co., 74 Regent-street, London. Important Caution against the fear • fel dangers of spurious imitations.—The Vice-Chancellor Sig William Page Wood granted an Injunction OR the 10th Morello 1854, against Alfred Hooper Nevill for imitating " 7:1 Barry's Revalenta Arabica Food." BIRTHS. BRISTOW—On the 15th inst., at Bayswater, the wife ° I Lieutenant• Colonel G. W. G. Bristow, of a daughter. GRIFFITH— On Thursday, 17th inst., at 17, Eaton-plee e ' the wife of C. Darby Griffith, Esq., M.P., of a son. GLYN—On the 17th inst., at Stanmore-park, Mrs. St. Leger Glyn, of a daughter. liAnsToN—On the Kith inst., the wife of Command er Harston, R.N., of a son. 1,797 2,918 1,069 '4,817 19,069 7,198 2,047 MARRIAGES. MAUNSELL—HOOD—On the 17th inst., Captain J. 13°1 ' lase Maunsell, to Mary Isabella, Viscountess Hood. SLADE- WARRE—On the 16th inst., at Bloomfield , S ( '', merset, the Rev. George Fitz c l arence Sl a d e , Fellow °` All Souls', Oxford, the youngest son of Sir John Slade, Bart., to Eleanor Frances, eldest daughter of 1 1 " 11. Warre, Esq. DEATHS. BAKER—On the 15th inst., at 4, Mount Vernon, Exeter, the Rev. John Baker, LL.B, ret i re d c h a plain It." aged 61 Cuitur , :—On the 16th inst., at Green-street, Grosvenor square, Francis Gore Currie, Esq., aged 58. DIIISDALE—On the 17th inst., at Brompton. Thomas C. Dinisdale eldest and only surviving son of the J on Baron Dinas: lale, of Camfield, Hertfordshire. ELLIS —On the 17th inst., at Southwold, Francis Wilson Ellis, Commander R.N., aged 6 4 . LEA—On the 16th inst., at at 13, Lonedale-square, Win% ton, Wm. Lea, Esq. SNOW —On the 16th inst., at his residence, 16, Saokvill:i street, Piccadilly, John Snow, M.D., of apoplexy, ag 45. Je rAmmom : Printed and Published by NIURDO YOUNG, of No. 112, Strand, Printer, at The. Sun Office. 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