The Sun. — London, England, 1860-04-21 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS—(YESTERDAY.) The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack at the usual hour. MANHOOD SUFFRAGE. Lord TEYNHAM presented several petitions in favour of manhood suffrage, and gave notice that on the 7th of June he should move a resolution with respect to that subject. THE LITURGY—ST. GEORGE'S-IN-THE-EAST. Viscount DUNGANNON presented several petitions against any alteration of the Liturgy. The noble viscount also gave notice that on the 11th of May he should ask a question of the noble earl the President of the Council with respect to the disgraceful proceedings that have of late taken place in the parish of St. George's 4n-the-East, in order to ascertain whether it is the intention of the Govern ment to introduce any measure calculated to put a stop to such scenes for the future. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The following bills were read a second time :—West Somerset Railway, York Improvement, Metropolitan Rail way; Oxford, Worcester, and Wolverhampton, Newport, Abergavenny and Hereford, and Worcester, and Hereford Railways ; Oxford, Worcester, and Wolverhampton, and Severn Valley Railway ; Liskeard and Caradon Railway OXFORD - UNIVERSITY BILL. This bill, after a few words from the Earl of CABNAR• VON, passed through committee and was reported. PRIVATE DIPLOMATIC CORRESPONDENCE. The Marquis of NORMANBY postponed moving the resolution which stood in his name this evening until Mon day. He was induced to adopt this course in eonsequence. of Lord Cowley, her Majesty' s Ambassador to Pai is, who had stated his intention of being present, not being able to attend in that house that evening. The LORD CHANCELLOR said a very important measure stood for consideration on Monday, namely, the bill to amend the Divorce Act. It was very important that that bill should be proceeded with. The Marquis of NORMANBY said the noble marquis (Clanricarde) had also a motion on the paper for Monday. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE said if the motion was meant as a vote of censure on the Government he would willingly give way ; but it seemed to him that it was not so intended, and it did not appear of any importance whether it came on that evening or that month. He thought the motion might very well be brought on after his motion on Monday, if the noble marquis thought proper to bring it forward. The Marquis of NORMANBY said he was quite ready to proceed witk the resolution that evening. He could not consent to bring it on after the motion of the noble marquis (Clanricarde). Earl GRANVILLE said it was for the convenience of the public service that the resolution should be disposed of as speedily as possible, and he hoped his noble friend (Clanricarde) would allow it to take precedence of his on Monday next. It was ultimately decided to take Lord Normanby's motion on Monday, and the Marquis of Clanricarde's on the fol lowing evening. Lord ST. LEONARDS hoped the Lord Chancellor would not proceed with the bill to amend the Divorce Act after the motion which they had just arranged should be discussed on Monday. As it had not been announced that the consideration of this bill would be postponed, he took it for granted that it would be proceeded with as it stood on the paper, viz., at the head of the business for that evening. MARRIAGES (EXTRA PAROCHIAL PLACES) BILL. This bill was read a third time and passed. ELECTIVE FRANCHISE COMMITTEE. Earl GREY named the select committee agreed to last evening on this subject. The list comprised the names of Earl Granville, the Duke of Argyll, the Marquis of Salisbury, Baron Stratheden, Earl Grey, Lord Belper, the Earl of Derby, the Earl of Lonsdale, the Earl of Stradbroke, Lord Overstone, Lord Llanover, Earl St. Germans, Lord Taunton, Lord Colchester, Lord Stanley of Alderley, and several other peers. The Earl of DERBY thought that his side of the house was not adequately represented in the committee. Earl GRANVILLE said the Government had nothing to do with naming the committee • it had been formed en tirely by the noble earl (Grey) who moved for the select committee. The Earl of STANHOPE suggested that the selection of the committee should be postponed until Monday. Earl GREY said the committee was merely for the pur pose of collecting information, and not for deciding any disputed question. He hoped their lordships would' agree to the names which he had proposed. It was a matter of great difficulty to so constitute the committee as to meet the views of all parties.' Tke committee, as named, was then agreed to. The Marquis of NO RMANBY said he was afraid there some mistake now with respect to the business for Monday. (Laughter.) The LORD CHANCELLOR said he could not for the credit of the house consent to postpone the consideration of the Divorce Bill. Their lordships then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—(YESTERDAY.) The SPEAKER took the chair at four o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The Conway, Llanrwst, and Battws-y-Coed Railway Bill was considered and ordered for third reading. • PETITIONS. Petitions were presented in favour.of the ballot ; for the abolition of the duty on malt ; in favour of the Church Rates Bill; against any alteration in the marriage law ; in favour of aid against the Wine Licensing Bill; against the provisions in the Bankruptcy Bill which prevented p:oceeding s in private local courts ; in favour of legalising marriage with a deceased wife's sister; praying the Go vernment to make arrangements to prevent the present ir regularities in the co nve y ance o f d espa t c h es b y t h e R oya l Mail Steam Packet Company to the West Indies ' • against the abolition of chu rc h ra t es ; i n f avour o f the total prohi bition of the sale of intoxicating liquors, &c. CHURCH RATES BILL Mr. S. ESTCOURT asked the hon. member for Tavis tock whether he proposed to bring on this bill this evening, and, if so, he trusted that ho would postpone it for the con venience of the house. Sir J. TRELAIVNY expressed his willingness to made to the proposition, if Government would make an arrangement to enable him to bring the bill forward on any particular day within a reasonable time. THE SCOTCH FISHERIES ACT. Colonel SYKES gave notice that he would ask the Lord Advocate whether it was his intention to make the alterations in this bill in accordance with the recommenda tions made by persons practically acquainted with the subject. , . NATIONAL GALLERY. Mr. CONINGHAM moved for returns of all the pictures purchased for the National Gallery during the administra tion of Sir Charles Eastlake, president, R.A., as keeper, timstee, and director ; together with the prices paid for each picture and collection of pictures, with the date of pur chase, &c.—Ordered. GREENWICH HOSPITAL. In reply to Colonel SYKES, Lord C. PAGET said that the report of the committee on the management of Greenwich Hospital would shortly be laid on the table of the house. CHURCH RATES BILL. Sir J. TRELAWNY appealed to the Government to no minate a day for the third reading of this bill. Mr. DISRAELI said there was not the slightest disposi tion on the part of hon. members on this side of the house to offer any undue opposition to the bill of the hon. baronet in its next stage, but those hon. members did re quire that there should be a fair discussion on so important measure. He protested most strongly against the bill being brought on this evening, when it was impossible to receive a proper discussion. The hon. baronet who intro duced the bill had acted in a straightforward manner to wards those who differed in opinion from him with reference to his measure. He called the attention of the hon. bart. to the altered circumstances under which this bill was now brought forward, as indicated by the presentation of no less than 10,000 petitions, signed by nearly a million persons, against the bill, and appealed to him not to press his bill this evening. After some discussion it was arranged that the bill should be brought forward on Friday next, and have precedence of the other orders of the day, and the subject dropped. IMPRISONMENT OF CHILDREN. Mr. MELLOR tailed the attention of the Secretary of State for the -Home Department to the operation of the Polic e ldren for pl Act, in reference to th e i mprisonment of young chiaying in the streets. Last year there were no less than 44 childrsn, and since the commencement of the preP.ent year, 25 children of 12 years of age and under were committed to prison for playing in the streets. PRIZE FIGHTING. Mr. W. EIVART inquired of the Secretary of State for the Home Department, as to the state of the law respecting " Prize Fighting." He denounced strongly the recent fight for the championship. It had been contended that prize fighting was favourable to the development of the national character, but the same had been asserted some time since by an hon. member in respect to bull-baiting, who added that its continuance was favourable to the connection of Church and State. (Laughter.) Notwithstanding the abolition of that brutal practice, there was no diminu tion in the courage of their soldiers and sailors. He be lieved that the continuance of those brutal exhibitions would be most prejudicial to the national morality, and that 'steps should be taken to suppress it. (" Hear, hear," and "No, no.") Mr. SCULLY said that the house, in the questions put to the Homo Secretary, had gone from pitch and toss to man slaughter. (Laughter.) With reference to the fight for the championship, he contended it was a disgrace ful exhibition to see two human beings pummel ling each other in the brutal manner that the men engaged in that encounter were represented to have done. If such an exhibition had taken place in Ireland, that corm try would be denOunced as a nation of savages. (Laughter.) He repeated the statement. He did not bring any charge against the national character of England on account of this fight, and he was informed that Heenan and Sayers were Irishmen—(laughter)—and that Mr. Morrisey was also an Irishman—(renewed laughter)—but, if so, they were a disgrace to their country. Sir G. C. LEWIS said, with respect to the complaint relative to the imprisonment of boys, it appeared that the majority of those committals were for the offence of playing at games of chance in the streets of London. He had communicated with the Chief Commissioner of Police on the subject, and he stated that the administration of the law in regard to those street offences was not carried out with strictness. Hon. members must be aware that in the crowded state of the streets of London the practice of boys playing was attended with great danger, and had caused serious accidents to pedestrians and equestrians, and it was indispensable to the public safety that it should b,e repressed. He thought the best mode to deal with boys guilty of these offences would be to inflict on them a slight corporal punishment and then liberate them, but he was not aware that such a course would be legal. As respected prize -fighting, those who were favourable to such exhibitions considered that they afforded a model for conducting fights between persons who engaged in pugilistic encounters. (Hear, hear.) It was considered a preferable mode of settling disputes, to resort to such fights, than to adopt the:practice of the stiletto, or the knife, or that mode of fighting common in Ireland by the use of the shillelah. (Great laughter.) He had no hesitation in stating that such fights were illegal, that those present at and abetting them were an unlawful assemblage, and might be indicted for misdemeanour. (Laughter.) With respect to the present site of Smithfield to which his attention had been called on by an hon. member, an ar rangement was proposed by her Majesty's advisers, which W°4l4 be ritibMittOti t 9 thvC9rPQlAtitil Uncith iViidw lc he rtrusted would have the effect ef settling the matter . tregarded Roman Catholic charities, a bill introduced on the subject on a' former occasion would be renewed, with sox al 3 alterations. REFORM BILL. 7 IIIr. E. JAMES asked the Secretary of State for Foreign I Ai fairs whether, in the event of the Reform Bill being read I a s ccond time during the present session, it was the inten tim of her Majesty's Government at once to proceed with the bill, or to agree to any motion to refer sudh bill to a select committee. He gave the noble lord (Lord J. Russell) credit for sincerity in regard to - the bill, but he considered that the Government was gu Rty of apathy in reference to a measure of so much im portance. ?Lord J. RUSSELL—I beg to give the hon. and learned gentleman the member for Marylebone my thanks for put tits, g a question which will tend to clear the course that the Go vernraent mean to pursuewith regard to the Reform Bill. The postponement of that bill has taken place partly in con sequence of there having been very long debates on the fir Lancia measures of the session, and partly in consequence of ' a resolution, which seems to have been taken by many h. an. gentlemen, that this debate should not end before Easter, and the evident inability of the Government to force to a elose the discussionon the second reading, when a great ?portion of the house were determined, with the holidays ) before them, to oppose the concluding of the debate. It is not, therefore, any fault or apathy on the part of the Go • 1 vernment th at has caused the postponement of the ad journed debate on the second reading. However, that ad jomaed debate will come on again on Monday next ; and I trust there will not be any very much prolonged further discussion upon the second reading of the bill. It is then ray intention, after the ordinary interval which usually elapses between the second reading and the committal of a bill, to appoint a day for the whole house to go into com mittea upon the measure. (Hear, hear.) The hon. gen tleman further asks me, what is the course which the Go vernment propose to pursue with regard to a notice given by the hon. member for Salford, the Chairman of Commit tees of Ways end Means. It appears to me that that mo tion—though it is not so direct or straightforward as a motion for postponing the second reading for six months would have been—is, in facti a metion intended to destroy the bill. (Hear.) It will therefore be treated by the Government as if it were a motion for postponing the second reading till that day six months, and therefore for destroying it altogether. (Cheers.) It is obvlous that we must oppose the hon. gentleman's motion, and for the reasons which I have stated. But besides that, such a course would be most unusual. I don't believe that there ever was an instance when the very principal measure of the session was referred to a select committee, it being obvious that if a select committee were entrusted with the alteration, and thereby with the fram: , ng of the bill, that select committee would be tevng upon itself the most im portant functions of the executive . government. I can con ceive of there being gentlemen who even after the second reading of the bill might think it advisable to move that the committal of the bill be postponed for six months ; but I cannot conceive that any great portiori of the house would think of referring a bill of this importance —a great me= a sure, which affects the constitution of the country and the right of voting of so many persons in the country to a select committee of 15 gentlemen to discuss. Ile course which we shall take will be to proceed wSth t lie bill, and to pr o p ose that it be referred to a commute; of th e w h o l e h ouse. In that committee of the who l e house the alteration of the franchise and the disfra r.chisement or partial disfranchise qient of constituenci e s can be considered. We have still time enough this ession to discuss and decide a ll th ose ques - F tions ; and I t;ast also that the bill will reach the House of Lords in sufficient time for its consideration. (Hear.) THE NEW STAMP ACT. Mr. MITCHELL asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether it was the intention of the Government to persevere In exacting, under the new Stamp Act, a stamp duty on every successive endorsement of delivery orders ? The hon. member said that the docks and the in incipal wharfingers insisted upon a new stamp for every fresh endorsement; so that in the case of some articles in which there was much speculation the tax might amount to as much as 10d. or 20d. In the commonest cases it would be at least 3d., whereas the understanding of Parliament when it agreed to the measure was that it should be only a penny. It seemed doubtful whether the docks and wholfingers were actiag under positive instructions received from the department of Inland Revenue, end he (the hon. member) was therefore anxious to have the point cleared up. Mr. HUBBARD also asked whether, in the event of dock warrants or delivery orders being impressed with the re quired_ stamp, it would become necessary to affix other stamps upon their transfer from tend to hand, with or all - out endorsement, prior to their being acted upon ? Mr. T. BARING understood that the Inland Revenue had intimated that there was to be not only a change of 3d. upon the dock warrant, but a further charge of 3d. upon the weigh-note which represented the same property. Was that the case ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, with regard to the question which had been put to him by the hon. member for Huntingdon, that he had not heard any thing on the subject of An intention to charge 3d. upon docu erienbi called weigh-notes. He would, if the hon. member permitted him, ask for particular information as to the cir cumstances and statistics, before he assumed that the hon. raembdr was correctly informed. But there were two obser vations which, perhaps, he might venture to make on the subject. One was, that the Government had no authority to construe the lan , ; and any opinion they might give ds to the effect o( an Act of Parliament might possibly mislead, as it could not be an authoritative opinion, and could have no tafluence in a court of justice. If the intentions of the Go vernment were asked it might be their duty to give an opinion. But with respect to the interpretation of the law, that was neither a common, nor, in point of fact, a neces sary practice. In any case he would submitthat this ques tion of interpretation of necessity fell into the hands of the revenue department; and he thought it was the most con venient course in all cases that the interpretation should in the first instance be sought from them. With respect to the question Of the stamp upon dock warrants, there clearly could be no necessity for such a stamp upon their transfer from hand to hand, either with or without an endorsement. In any case that he was aware of—he spoke generally on the subject, because he was not acquainted with the par ticulars of any circumstance that had arisen, but un doubtedly the intention with which the House of Com mons assented to a stamp upon dock warrants was that a dock warrant should be sufficient for its purpose upon having the stamp affixed. With respect to delivery orders the case was not precisely analogous to that of dock warrants ; but he would endeavour to give an explanatioi In order to make a document liable to a stamp as a delivery order, three conditions were required. The first was that the goods ':must be in a warehouse or other place, if on shore, where they were kept for order—he meant that if the goods were ix a warehouse, or were not kept for hire, there was no question of a delivery order. The second was that the stamp only operated upon the delivery order in the case of there being both a transfer and a delivery. Whenever there was a transfer of property, accompanied with what in law constituted a delivery, then there was a liability to a stamp. He apprehended that it was a possible case that the same delivery order should be so used as to require both transfer and delivery by endorsement. In that case undoubtedly it would become liable, as he believed, under the terms of and in conformity with the act to a ' second stamp. But that was not the case, he thought, to which the hon. gentleman referred; and he confessed that he was misled by the question of the hon. gentleman, be cause he seemed to imply that in ordinary cases it had been the intention of the Government to exact a stamp duty upon every successive endorsement of a delivery order. Now there was no such intention, and he was not aware that the Government had taken any step whatever in that direc tion. If the goods represented by delivery order were transferred by endorsement without what constituted de livery in law first taking place there would be no neces sity for a second stamp. As to the case of endorsement to which the hon. gentleman had referred, and a charge of another stamp, he could only say it had no sanction from any officer of the Government, and if it had occurred it could only have been through gross error. After a few words from Mr. CAVE, the motion for the adjournment of the house till Monday was carried. CHARITY TRUSTERS. Mr. MELLOR obtained leave to bring in a bill to remove doubts as to the eligibility of certain persons to be trustees of certain charities. SAVOY AND NICE. Mr. P. HENNESSY, who had given notice of a motion in the following terms :—" That it appears to this house, from the papers which have been placed before Parliament by command of her Majesty, that the French Government was ready to submit the question of the annexation of Savoy and the arrondissement of Nice to France to a con gress of all the great Powers of Europe, provided that her Majesty's Government would agree to have the question of the annexation of the states of Central Italy, namely, Tus cany, Parma, Modena, and the Roman Leg,ations, also sub mitted to a congress of all the great Powers ; and that this house regrets that those territorial additions to France and Sardinia have been arranged without the convocation of such a congress"—said that he should not proceed with the motion that evening; but he begged to give notice that he should bring it forward upon an early supply night. ROYAL PROCLAMATION (PIETY, VIRTUE, &c.) Mr. L. KING moved that an humble addr - ss be presented to her Majesty, praying that she would be graciously pleased to cause the royal proclamation for the encouragement of piety and virtue, and for the preventing and punishing of vice, profaneness, and immorality, issued at the commence ment of her Majesty's reign, to be revised, or to authorise the discontinuance of reading the same at assizes and quar ter sessions, and in churches and chapels. He said that this proclamation was read at the opening of every assizcs and quarter sessions, and was also ordered to be read in all parish churches four times in the year. It was ex tremely ill worded, and during the time when it was being read persons of all sorts, witnesses and jui /men, were kept waiting, to their e x treme inconvenience. But although ma gistrates and judges obeyed the order, there was a class of personseverbeen who did not o b e y it—h e m eant the clergy. It had n church eenhisgoopdrofeolratmunateiola w or his bad read.ba Thefortuned clergy, tobe in a when thishe thought, were extremely wise in not doing this ; they had QOM MOW Qi Acittu3 their purepti9ll4 to pioty THE SUN ,VIONDON, SATURDAY EVENING, APRIL 21, 1860. virtue. He thought tbis instrument should either be revised or discontinued altogether. Mr. HADFIELD seconded the motion. Mr. S. ESTCOURT said he protested against the alter native proposed by the hon. gentleman, that this proclama tion should be either revised or discontinued. To its revi sion he was very friendly; to its discontinuance he was en tirely opposed. Sir G. C. LEWIS said he should feel somewhat embar rassed as to the vote which he should give on the occasion of a motion for an address on this subject, not having had the advantage of hearing a more general expression of opi nions which hon. members entertained upon it. He saw some difficulty in the way of the revision of this proclama tion. If it were looked at with a critical eye he thought there would not be found much in it which he should wish to revise. He was sorry, therefore, to say that his counsel was, if it was not to be retained in its present form, the bet ter course would be to discontinue it altogether. Irthe general opinion of the house were in favour of that course, he should be ready to acquiesce in any such expression of feeling; but he could not consider the matter of such grave importance as that the house should be imperatively called upon to interfere. (Hear, hear.) Mr. L. KING said that in order to meet the views of the right hon. gentleman opposite, he would propose to omit all the words from his motion aster the word "revise." The m:ginal motion was then, by leave, withd rawn , and the amended motion put from the chair. After a few words from Mr. SLANEY, the motion as amended was put, and the SPEAKER, declared that the "Noes" had it. A division was called for, and the result was— For the motion Against it CONVEYANCE OF NEWSPAPERS. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he rose to move for leave to bring in a bill to amend the law relating to the postage, or, it would be more correct to say, to the conveyance of newspapers. The purpose of the bill was to give effect to the objects which he had stated in the financial statement at an early period of the session. He would have the bill printed, and would take care that a convenient time elapsed before the second reading. He would also endeavour to make the house acquainted with any subsidiary regulations that might be necessary, to make due provision for the transmission of newspapers under all circumstances. He would therefore merely place the motion in the hands of the Speaker. Leave was given to bring in the bill. CUSTOMS ACTS AND SAVINGS BANKS BILL. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved that the order for the further consideration of the 13th resolution on the Customs Acts, relating to the malt duty, and also that the committee on the Savings Banks and Friendly So cieties Investments Bill, should be postponed till ‘ Thursday. Agreed to. DUCHY OF CORNWALL (LIMITATION OF AC the parties obtaining the drawback should comply with such regulations as the Board of Inland Revenue might male. Mr. A,. BLACK seconded the amendment. If this had been a publisher's question, he should have had great deli cac:r in advocating it, but he considered it a question sim?ly affecting operative printers. Of course, if he had a perbdical in hand, it must come out at the appointed time ; but if he were going to publish a standard work, he should not give it out to the printers in June, July, or the early part of August, but should wait till after the duty bad come off. Tie CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said of all the dasses affected by a change of duty, there never was any who was so free from the apprehension of loss as the publishers. It lay in the very nature , of the trade that a , publisher could hardly be a loser by the excise duty on paper. Take the statement of Mr. Bohn, that the duty on paper made a difference of only one halfpenny on such a book as " Colenso's Arithmetic," which sold for 2g., and was it to be supposed that in July a publisher would be selling " Colenso's Arithmetic" for 25., and in August for ls. Md. ? In point of fact, this was the weakest of all the claims for a drawback that could have been brought for ward. There was always a difficulty in reducing or abolish ing duties ; there was a difficulty in the customs and a diffi culty in the excise. The double loss of reducing the duty and paying a large drawback was so great that there must always be some amount of inconvenience attending the operation. The principle was to give no drawback except in cases where :he identity of the arale could be ascer- tamed. The hon. and learned member referred to the case of wine. The case of the wine duty was as different as pos sible from that which the hon. and learned gentleman sup posed. It was a luestion of compact, and the only doubt that arose was as to the construction of that maps:A. Aid there was this great difference, that when the reduction of the s ine duty took effect, the holder of the stock was imme diately subject to competition with an article which bad paid the lesser duty, and he believed that the price of wine had fallen to the full extent of the reduction in the duty. But in the matter before the house the public would get no reduction in the price of the article. They were asked to allow the drawback for the sake of the operative printers. He was not prepared to say, however, that Parliament should give a large sum of money to pub lishers, in order to induce them to employ their workmen. Then again with regard to wine, there was a minute and detailed series of regulations which the sine merchants had had,to keep, and the excise were able to identify the wine on which drawback was claimed. The hon. end learned member said there was no fear of fraud in this case, and it was very well for him who had not the responsibility of raising the revenue to say that; but those who had the responsibility were of a different opinion. And the hon. and lem accl member himself proposed that there should be regulations to prevent fraud. If they had effective regula tions, however, the excise world have to swarm in the offices of the printer, and the warehouses of the publisher. He was bound to say that of all the claims for drawback, that of the publishers was the weakest, and on that ground and also on financial grounds, he tr asted the house would not allow it, as instead of its being a question of a few hun dred pounds, it was a question of a very large amount. The amendment was then put, and negatived, and the house went into committee. On clause 1, Mr. BLACKBURN moved the postponement of the operation of the measure by leaving out in line 5, " 15th day of August, 1860," and inserting "31st day of March, 1861." If they raised a million more money by postponing the repeal of the paper duty, they would then be able to pay off the debt on the Exchequer bonds. The CHANCELROR of the EXCHEQUER said that as matters stood, the only result of the committee adopting the repeal of the paper duty and then postponing the day when its repeal should take effect, would be that, finan cially, the' Government would lose about one-half the pro ceeds. If money must be had, he thought it would be far better for the house to proceed to raise it by some other and distinct proposal, than by retracing their steps and postponing the repeal of this duty for twelve months. The ,whole nett proceeds which might be expected during that period was only £25,000. He really trusted the hon. gen tleman would not press his motion. The motion was then withdrawn: Mr. AYRTON wished to call the attention of the Chan cellor of the Exchequer .to what he considered to be a serious omission in the first clause of the bill. It did not follow the usual course of bills for the repeal of an excise duty, by including the duty on licenses for the exciseable commodity. It had always been customary to repeal the tax on the license of tie person manufacturing the goods. There was no valid ground for maintaining a charge on the person who made the paper, for he found that whenever the duties of this nature had been repealed, the duty upon the excise license had been repealed also. There was an exception certainly in the case of the soap boilers, but it was, perfectly unjustifiable even there, and ought to be repealed. It must also be borne in mind that one of the main grounds for repealing the duty on paper was to encourage its manu facture in this country. For these reasons the hon. gentle man moved the insertion of the words abolishing the li cense. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER. said he was unable to say that the hon. member's statement of precedent was literally incorrect, but would mention an instance to show that it was certainly not established as a principle of recent legislation that when an excise duty was repealed the persons who paid it should also be relieved from the burden of annual licenses. The soap trade, to which the hon. gentleman had himself referred, was one case where the repeal of the license did not follow the repeal of the duty, although the question was carefully considered by Parliament, and there was as much anxiety to promote the soap as the paper trade. But the case of auctioneers af forded a still stronger instatlee of the same kind. When the excise duty on auctions was repealed, so far was Sir Robert Peel and the Parliament of the day from thinking that the licenses ought necessarily to be discontinued as well, that the repeal of the duty was seized as an excellent opportunity for raising a small sum in an unexceptionable manner, either—for he forgot the exact course pursued—by imposing a license duty on the trade, or greatly augment ing that which already existed. That measure was carried without opposition either in the house or from the anc • tioneers. He could not regard the payment of £4 4s. for a license as a serious obstacle to the development of the paper manufacture, which must be prosecuted on a scale certainly far larger than could be affected by so trifling a charge. It was urged that the amount. derived from this license was very small—only some £1,500 or £1,600 a-year at present, and not likely to rise above £3,000 or £4,000 for many years to come ; but the question was, not how much this duty would yield, but whether it could be raised in an unexceptionable manner. If there were no so• rious oomplaint against it, and it involved no breach of principle, the mere smallness of the amount was no reason for abandoning it, especially in the case of a class on whom the Legislature were about to confer a great boon at a heavy cost to the Exchequer. The principle of these licenses on trades was a good one ; and he would be ready enough to answer the hon. member's question whether he was willing to extend the practice if it depended on his own will alone. (Hear.) The question of licenses on trades might at any time become entitled to the serious consideration of Parlia ment, either on account of peculiar financial pressure, or as a commutation for Other taxes and he was not prepared to surrender those taxes of the kind which now existed. It might be true that all taxes which existed should be in per fect harmony with each other; but although it might be proper to keep that in mind, he did not think it of itself a good reason for surrendering a duty which was raised with out difficulty, complaint, or cost to the Exchequer, and which was paid by a class who were about to receive so considerable a boon from Government. (Hear, hear.) Sir J. TROLLOPE remarked that when Sir R. Peel in creased the license duty charged on auctioneers, those already in the trade were delighted, because it tended to keep othera out of it. (Hear, hear.) There could be no reason why paper manufacturers should be subject to license duty more than cotton-spinners or carpet manufac turers. (Hear, hear.) If one species of manufacture was to be licensed, there was a strong reason why all the rest should belreated in the same way ; and he thought that the Chancellor of the Exchequer, who had been making great changes in the financial system of the country, and was so much in favour of direct taxation, ought to extend the system of licensing to all trades. By what the right hon. gentleman was now doing he would create a practical' monopoly in the paper trade. The paper manufacture was already in comparatively few hands, and would become the possession of still fewer in time. Mr. BRIGHT thought the right hon. gentleman was not quite so conclusive in his arguments on this occasion as he had been on many other questions connected with the bud get. He agreed with the hon. member opposite that there was no reason whatever why the men who made paper should have to pay for a license more than those who made calico. He believed it was better for the papermakers that the license should be retained and the duty abolished than that both should be retained ; but there was really no rea son why they should pay license duty while those who manufactured other things were exempt. His principal objection to the duty was that it was unjust to the various classes of paper manufacturers. Those who carried on an extensive trade—the Wrigleys, Dickensons, and Cowans— paid no more than the £4 4s. which had to be paid also by those who carried on business only on a small scale, and derived from it but a scanty income. It wag not worth while, perhaps, to say much about it on one side or the other, but he thought the exceptions to which the Chan cellor of the Exchequer had referred did not afford sufficient grounds to continue the system, unless it were extended generally among traders, and that he suspected no Chan cellor of the Exchequer would attempt until other sources of revenue had failed. He hoped the Chancellor of the Exchequer had not said what he had said to-night for the purpose of extending licenses. He had no objection to traders paying their full share of taxation, but he thought the mode of licenses was unpalatable, and veil , unsatisfac tory. (Hear, hear.) He thought the hon. member for the Tower Hamlets was right in the view which he took of this question. It did not seem to be a matter of much conse quence. No paper manufacturer objected to the license. At the same time it was not just in principle, and it was unfair to the small paper manufacturer. (Hear, hear.) Mr. WYLD said that auctioneers were not exy. , sed to foreign competition. With respect to the manufacturers of glass, the duty on which was repealed a few years ago, they paid no licenses. If free trade were to be accompanied with the imposition of licenses generally the Chancellor of the Exchequer would rouse a feeling of opposition which he did not expect. ' Mr. BASS paid licenses thirteen or fourteen times over. Not only WAS he taxed as a maltster and as a brewer, but he had to take out a license for every one of the agents whom he employed in the principal towns. Nevertheless, if the Government would relieve him of the duty on the articles which he used in his manufacture, and on account of which he paid the Exchequer £130,000 or £140,000 a year, or if it would only take off half of it, he would not quarrel about the licenses. (Hear, and a laugh.) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that as the question of the inequality of licenses had been raised, he felt bound to warn the committee against admitting pre cedents in small matter's, which might hereafter be attended by a great loss of revenue. At present we had a most irregular, anomalous, and exceptional licensing system ; but do not let them meddle with it unless they were prepared to do so on some intelligible plan. The hon. gentleman who had just spOken afforded another answer to the argu ment of the hon. member for the Tower Hamlets ; for when the duty on beer was repealed the duty on the brewer was still retained. After a few words from Mr. AYRTON in reply, The committee then divided. The numbers were:— For the amendment .. 39 Against 147-108 The clause was then agreed to. The remaining clauses of the bill were then agreed to with some verbal amendments, and the bill passed through committee. The house resumed. PETITIONS OF RIGHT BILL. The house went into committee on this bill. Clause 1 was agrczi to. On clause 2, Sir G. C. LEWIS said that ho thought the hon. and learned gentleman who had charge of this bill (Mr. Bovill) had earned the gratitude of the house for the introduction of a measure which would have, the effect of simplifying the procedure and reducing the expense in this class of actions—(hear, hear)—but there was one point to which he wished to take exception. He thought there was no reason why the preliminary application should be made to a judge. He therefore proposed that the second clause should be omitted altogether ; and then, with some verbal amend ments in the third clause, the effect would be that the first application would be made to the Crown. Mr. BOVILL assented to the suggestion. The clause was then struck out, and the remaining clauses of the bill agreed to. The house resumed. The report on the committee of supply was brought up and agreed to. TIONS) tILL. On the motion for going into committee on this bill, Mr. A. SMITH said this bill contained matter not only affecting the Duchy of Cornwall, but the public interests. He had refrained fcom opposing its former stages, knowing that he should now have the opportunity of doing so. The bill came in the specious form of providing limitation to suits; but it contained large powers for selling and leasing. It was much of the same character as till° Submarine Min ing Act, passed in a recent mossion, which ho had unsuc • cessfully opposed. Such measure ought to be introduced as private bills, in order that they might be sifted by a select committee. If this bill passed in its present form it would give the duchy the power of granting leases of property, ac quired under the former act, against persons in actual pos session, An HON. :MEMBER here moved that the house should be counted. There were at this time orly about 20 members present, but the requisite number appeared beforo the counting took place, and Mr. A. SMITH proceeded—The revenue of the duchy of Cornwall was £40,000 a-year, and in the course of a few years ethic £42,000 had been made over to the duchy. The house then went into committee. Clause 1 being agreed to, Mr. KENDALL moved to add a proviso reserving the rights of actual occupiers. Certain property was said to be in charge to the Duke of Cornwall, provided it had ever been entered in the books of the duchy ; and the possessors of such property, who might have derived it from their an cestors, were subject to be turned out any morning without a moment's notice. A l l he asked was this—to let them have what had been promised to them; and if any slip had taken place, let the house not take advantage of it, end let the clauses he proposed be introduced. The committee divided, when the numbers were, For the proposed clause Against 69-52 The amendment was therefore negatived. The other clauses of the bill passed through committee, and the house resumed. The Isle of Man llarbours Bill was postponed until tha day week. PAPER DUTY REPEAL. On the motion for going into committee on this bill, Mr. BOVILL moved a resolution declaring it to be just and expedient that a drawback should be allowed to printers and publishers on the duty paid upon their stock of paper Purchased and printed upon after the passing of this act, and remaining in 'sheets unbound on the 15th of August next, the day on which the duty was to cease. He remarked that :the Chancellor of the Exchequer had already ad mitted the principle of a drawback in the case of the wine duties, having been influenced in that case either by the pressure of a large and influential body of men, or else by a sense of justice; and the same principle would apply to the stocks" of paper in the hands of printers and pub lishers. Indeed, the bill did propose to allow a drawback to stationers, paperstainers, and pasteboard makers, upon the stocks of paper in their hands, and it did so for the purpose of preventing a stagnation of their trade. It was considered that unless the stationer was allowed a drawback he would abstain from purchasing paper, and would not keep up his stock ; the trade and the operations of the manufacturer would be suspended, and in the interval of time the Govern ment would derive no revenue therefrom. The same argu ment would applf a to the caseof the printers and publishers, and the drawback which they also claimed. It might be said that the stationer was only to be allowed a drawback on the entire reams, half reams, and other parcels of paper, remaining in stock unopened at the time when the act came into operation. But that was merely to identify the parcels of paper, and there was not a difference of principle between the case of the stationer and that of the printer or publisher. The Chancellor of the Exchequer had therefore conceded the principle of a drawback, which extended, in the case of the wine duties, to stocks purchased two years ago, and" which might even, in the case of the stationers' stock, ex tend to paper that he had purchased 10 years, if the reams had continued unopened during that time. The printing trade was one of a different character, but great numbers of people were dependent upon it, and it was entitled to as much consideration. He was informed that. in the metro polis alone there were 8,000 printers who were engaged in the printing of standard works. Now, what would be the effect of a refusal of the drawback upon them ? Suppose that Mr. Bohn, or any other large publisher of standard works which were not copyright, was engaged in bringing out a series of works at an extremely moderate price. The printing went on month by month, and as it was prepared, it was worked off, the paper being purchased and supplied for the purpose. Those works, not being new works, but standard works which were expected to have a tolerably re gular sale, they might come out either in one month or an other, and might easily be deferred without detriment to the publisher, though perhaps with some little disappointment to the public, if they were expected. If it was now thought right, instead of taking off the paper duty immediately, to defer taking it off until four months hence, Mr. Bohn or any other such publisher would not print his works during those four months, but would defer the printing of them until the time when the duty was to come off. It might be said, perhaps, that since the publishers would derive great advantages from the repeal of the paper duty, they could well afford to wait. But it was not the publishers who would suffer, because if the publication of those standard works was deferred for two or three months, they would pro - bably get the same sale afterwards. The effect, however, upon others would be this. As Mr. Bohn, with his " Stan dard Library," and other publishers, would thus defer the publication of their works, the inevitable consequence would be that the printers would be unemployed, and thousands of meritorious workmen would be deprived of the means of earning their daily bread, and the greatest distress would be created among them. He was informed by a man well acquainted with the trade that ten thousand persons would be eit'ier wholly or partially thrown out of employment until the duty came off. Nearly the whole of the pressmen of London, cease t ndon,who be employed.owerema H mainly engaged did not gagedinasbk fora ook draw--printing, back on the paper used for periodical publications ; but it was the heavy book-printing that would be suspended if the drawback was refused, because then, by the delay of a very few weeks, the publishers would obtain the benefit of the repeal of the duty, svhile the ill effects of the delay would be visited on the working printers. The Chancellor of the Exchequer might, perhaps, say that as he was pro posing to give up a large amount of revenue by the repeal of the paper duty, he could not afford to give u p the amount of this drawback. But he would really b e g i v i ng up a very d g not be paid i n the trifling amount by allowing this dr aw b ac k , f or i f the pub lishers consumed, abstained and th f e ro d m uty pr w in o t ul in ' the pap er wou ld not he mean time. By the law, as it now stood, until the 16th of August next any publisher might go on printing, and if he ex ported his printed books, though it were only to Jersey, and then brought them back again, he would be entitled to the drawback. They could be exported to Jersey a n d brought back, at an expense of about a halfpenny a pound, and if the publishers chose to take that trouble, they might evade the duty. The Chancellor of the Exche quer,would therefore not be sacrificing very much reven ne . by allowing the drawbac k which he now asked f or , Heasked if it was worth while, in order to save so small a sum, to turn out of employment hrndreds of m .then in the Wregard t o . ee but the t m h e e t metropolis uatnyd, theyt h e u thousands r e i n d t n h o e c g o ti v a n r t a r; declara tion of the wine dealer, end why should they require more in this case ? He did not think there would be any diffi culty in identifying the paper, and if there were, he had provided for that 117 inserting words iu his resolution, that CUSTOMS ACT. The house went into committee on this bill. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved an amendment to clause 3, in order to simplify and explain the provision by which it was rendered not necessary to prove the identity of wines in order to give a title to the drawback. The amendment was agreed to. On clause 12, relating to the charges upon and measure. ment of timber, _ Mr. FENWICK, after objeCting to their proceeding fur ther at so late an hour, said that if the measurement of tim ber, particularly spars, was not more equitably adjusted, great inconvenience would be caused to the thpber trade of the country. He understood that somethingelike 3s. 6d., instead of ls. as proposed, would be charged on staves, through it being proposed to measure empty space. He thought that sbme alteration should be made in the clause, so that only the absolute quantity of timber should be charged for. . The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he had no difficulty in giving his hon. friend the assurance which he asked, for it never was his intention to maintain under the new law thoso measurements of woods of this descrip tion, which might be perfectly intelligible but which were not equitable, and which existed under the old system of the timber duties. It was not intended that the importer of timber should pay for anything at his own expense, and the new duty would be put as nearly at ls. for the space mentioned as it would be possible to do. (Hear, hear.) Mr. FEN WICK—And as to bark perhaps the right hon. gentleman woultf' state his intentions. . . - The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—The duty would follow in the same manner, and be made more equi table. Mr. BUCIIANAN said that staves used by coopers for herring barrels had been excepted from duty under the old law. He thought the remedy now proposed would be an ithperfect one for the evils complained of. He would just observe in reference to the tea and sugar duties, which had been fixed for a year only, that the system was most incon venient to the trade goner -Illy. If they had been taken for live years or more, it would have been far more agreeable to the trades. He lapped the house and country would long have the benefit of the services of tho right hon. gentleman in the office which he so much adorned, and then perhaps he would consider this question and bring it to a settlement. Mr. HENLEY said he was glad. the right hon. gentleman seemed willing to do justice to the dealer in staves, but his morality appeared to be this, that so long as the duty was high, it was right to charge them three times too much, but now it would be low he did not intend to charge more than the proper amount. This was evidently the reasoning of the right hon. gentleman. (Laughter.) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he thought the observations of the right hon. gentleman ap plied to Chancellors of the Exchequer in the abstract, as he clearly was not responsible for the schemes of duties which were devised before he was born. (Laughter.) He might observe that staves for herring barrels were made an excep tion in 1842, because at that period the cooperage trade was under severe competition, and the duty was accordingly reduced. The principle of a nominal duty on foreign woods was not then established, but now it would be one uniform charge. As respected the tea and sugar duties, he must ad mit the great force of the observations of his hon. friend behind him, and no doubt the person who might next year fill the office which he had the honour to occupy would think it desirable to ask the house to fix the duties, as soon as possible, at a fair and proper amount. (llear.) Mr. HALIBURTON, who had the following amend ment on the paper, viz., that after timber "sawn or split, planed or dressed," there should be inserted, " except deals, battens, and boards, which should remain at the present duty," and he must ask the right hon. gentleman not to proceed further at so late an hour of the night, as the ques tion would require great consideration. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that although the hour might be considered late in some coun tries, according to the custom of this it was an early hour. ',Laughter.) A more favourable state of the house than the present there could not be for considering the question and for the calm discharge of public business. But if it would be personally disagreeable to the hon. and learned gentle man toproceed, he would report progress. (Cries of Go on.) Mr. HALIBURT ON then said there was no other alter native but to go on now. (Cries of Hear, hear.) But he would assure the committee that .he never in his life rose under circumstances of greater embarrassment than he did at present. No hon. gentleman who had read the short line of amendment contained in the paragraph, or the still shorter line which followed, could deny that the measure before him was of the greatest importance to those persons whose interests ho advocated, he feared so imperfectly, in that house, and who were, he might say, wholly unrepre sented not only in that house, but unrepresented by any official organ in this country, to make known their wishes and wants to the Government of the country. He felt in advocating the interests of those persons that he was himself not only a stranger in the. house but in the country; and that he had no friends to support the cause of those persons. He might state to the house that in this case he was advocating the interests of three millions of people, and that the timber of their country was their great staple. When he stated that it was the only trade they had, it would be needless to add that British America was a forest country, and that it was by the annual export of the timber of that forest that those people earned their livelihood. Persons in this country were inte rested in more trade than one, and therefore if one were af fected by change it did not cause such serious consequences; but where there was only one trade, the interests of the persons engaged in it were of more importance. Every other interest was ably and efficiently represented in that house. The silk weavers, and corkcutters, and other classes who were free traders for the rest of the world, but protec tionists for themselves, men who could draw even from rags arguments for the principle of free trade where they were not concerned themselves, found many members in that house to advocate their interests. (Hear, hear.) But there was no in that house to stand up in defence of the rights and interests of the distant colonist. He felt how vain and useless it was for him to contend against one so able, so elo quent, so ingenious, but, at the same time, one so imper vious to any argument as the right hon. gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer. (Laughter.) But he should appeal from the right hon. gentleman to the honest feelings of Englishmen, who proverbially loved fair play—(hear, hear)—and who, if they could not assist, would at least sym pathise with the weaker party. The policy of former days was to nurture their colonies. The men who advocated that policy were known by the name of Tories. (Laughter.) That was the name before the intreduction of a new nomen clature—before they called themselves progressive and libe ral Conservatives, and other varieties of name, that had very little meaning and much less sense in them. (Laughter.) In old days the toast used to be ships, colonies, and com merce, but now it was comme rce, calico, and cotton. He considered that they ought to c ultivate their colonies on the principle that those who begat children ought to pro tect and support them till they were able to support them selves. Every advantage was given to that forest country to furnish supplies of timber to England when the north of Europe was, by the machinations of the uncle of th e pre sent Emperor of the Frenc h, closed to this country. (Hear.) In 1842 Sir R. Peel red uced the scale of thos e duties. He did not so much comp lain of the principle on which that was done as the mode of doing it, for it was done without notice, and had taken the colonists by sur prise. oae of the ablest men in New Brunswick computed the loss to them of that single clause at £3,000,000, and he computed the loss to Nova Scotia, with which he was better acquainted, at £2,000,000, making a total loss of £5,000,000. Other reductions had since taken place, so that there was very little profit acquired by the trade ; and it was at such a moment that the right hon. gentleman opposite, again, without the least notice to the colonists, produced his scheme for doing away with all preferential duties. (Hear, hear.) He bibbed of them to consider whether it was their intention to put it out of the poier of these colonies whether they would belong to this country or not. (Hear.) They were now cutting the first strand of the cable that connected the colonists with the mother country., He had seen a reply of'the right hon. gentleman opposite to Mr. M'Evilly, the mayor of St. John's, who must be a respectable person, for he was not the represen tative of £6 householders, but a more respectable class, ani who addressed a letter to .the r;ght hon. gentleman on the subject of his proposed abolition of the differential duty on timber. This gentleman, with whom he was not acquainted, . _ • pointed out the injustice and the danger of the proposal, but he could not find that his letter contained anything in the least disrespectful. ' Ho\fever, the right hon. gentleman returned a haughty and supercilious answer, which must have dumbfoundered Mr. WE villy, and sent him back to the colony if it did not kill him with fright. The right hon, gentleman questioned and disputed his right to pro test and remonstrate against the policy he adopted, and told him that he ought to have sent his remonstrance to the Secretary fer the Colonies, who would use his discretion whether it should be laid before the right hon. gentleman. (Laughter.) The right hon. gentleman desired to have it sent through the " Circumlocution-office," but the pro bability was that in that case it never would have been laid before him at all, because the bill would have been passed through Parliament before he could have made his repre sentations to the colonial governor and the Secretary of State for the Colonies. The right hon. gentleman inti mated that the colony had been protected by this country. Such a statement would be ungenerous, if true, but there was not a word of truth in it. It was not protection when they sent Lord Ashburton to strike off one-third of the best of the timber land of New Brunswick, cut off their postal communication with Canada, and abandoned their fisheries to the citizens of the United States. They did not protect the colonies. The colonies would,. in his opinion, be better without them, but he would leave the colonies to settle that point when the time came for doing so. Then came Mr. Rankin, of Liverpool, who was associated with`British North America. There was not a man in Great Britain so well acquainted with the timber trade as he was ; but, like a true Scotchman, he was giving up a trade which did not pay him. He said very much the same as the mayor of New Brunswick said. He stated that in 18i0 the balance of the imports of colonial over foreign wood was 1,511,000 tons ; while in 1859, just 19 years afterwards, the balance was in favour of foreign and against colonial wood to the amount of 2,614,626 tons. Such being the case, Mr. Ran kin and other gentlemen of Liverpool sent a petition to that house, but that petition was stopped by the house as "irre gular," and sent off like a basket of dead game. That peti.. tion stated the case briefly, but ably ; but where was the man in that house who cared about British North America? and there was 113 use in the petitioners going to Downing street, which was. only meant to "govern" the colonies. But they came to him as a fellow-countryman, and he asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer that these 3,000,000 of people might be heard at the bar of that house. (Laugh ter and hear.) They who cheered at that were fond of a reform bill for the rabble of this country, but they thought nothing of that people who were vastly more intelligent than their £6 voters. (A laugh.) If that was the way they treated the colonists, they would have their cheer echoed back from thioats louder and stronger than his. Dr. Frank lin was heard at the bar of the House of Commons, and told the people of this country 'what he (Mr. Haliburton) ventured to repeat, namely, that the persistence of the Im perial Parliament in an unwise course of legislation would lose them their colonies. Dr. Franklin's prophecy had been fulfilled, but he (Mr. Haliburton) fervently prayed that his might-not be. Dr. Franklin, however, was charged with being a thief and a murderer, and with having for feited the esteem of mankind, which was not very encou raging to any man to desire to be heard at the bar of the house,. (Laughter.) The colonists, in prosecuting their present case, had acted with great fairness and modera tion. They had instructed him not to ask for any reduc tion of duty that would affect shipping, but there was a description of trade which they had themselves created, for which they were anxious to obtain protection. All the expenses incidental to the trade had been already incurred, and if those who engaged in it were now, sent adrift, ruin must inevitably ensue. The supply of timber, would not be diminished, but both the labourer, the ma nufacturer and the merchant would experience all the dis alvantages of British legislation without any of its advantages. The question would then arise whether it would not be better for the colonists to set up for themselves, and make their own treaties, or to annex them selves to neighbours with whom their commercial interests were so nearly allied. If this country was to have the supremacy of the seas, it must not cast off the third ship ping country in the world, for such British North America was, and yet the shipping trade of British North America had been almost at a standstill fox the last 15 years ; while. France, on the other hand, was, by' means of a bounty, maintaining in the deep sea fisheries of Newfoundland some.: thing like 30,000 fishermen. Nothing could be more dis tasteful to his own feelings, or more disrespectful to the house, than for him to utter a threat ; but he must warn the house that the colonists had all the disadvantages of the connection with England, and none of the advantages. They were not a people to be trifled with; they deserved kindly and considerate usage. It was by their loyalty that in 1812, when England was engaged in a life struggle in Europe, the American invaders were driven back across the Niagara. And later, when by French emissaries, and by our radical or chartist emigrants who went out there, re bellion was excited amongst the French population, how was the danger encountered by Sir Francis Head ? That ablest, worthiest, and most popular of governors put him self at the head of the loyal militia, and the danger was sup pressed. The man whom he had just named was now a living monument of the ingratitude of every administration, and of both political parties since that day. (Hear, hear.) The people of Canada had shown their respect for monar chical,institutions by the liberal provision they had made for the Governor-General, paying' him, out of the poor treasury of a very young country, double the salary of the President of the United States. New Brunswick and Nova Scotia had done likewise. And what sort of a return was made to them for this? Why, there were recently four townships to be named in a certain province, and the Governor, by way of a joke, handed the naming of them over to his lady, and she named there after her four lapdogs. (Oh, -oh.) If hon. gentlemen did net believe the fact, let them see if the names of those four townships were not to be found—Tiny, Floss, Hops, and Emily. (Hear.) Were the districts of that country to be named after lapdogs and menials ? (Hear.) Tho colonists could protect themselves against their enemies, but Parlia ment should at least protect them against the insults of a Governor-General. The Americans did better; they named their towns at least after heroes of antiquity; they had their Catos and Scipios, even their Junes and Venuses, and they paid their country the compliment of giving it the bestnames they knew how to invent. He had heard it said that if the Chancellor of the Exchequer put a tax on colonial produce, the Canadians had the impudence to tax British manufac tures. But that belonged to their own internal government, it was a tax which they paid themselves, and it was at the suggestion of Downing-street that they imposed an uniform ad valorem duty on the manufactures of all nations alike, British and foreign—not a protective duty like that imposed by the United States, but one for revenue, since direct taxation was repugnant to the feelings of the country. They were ridiculed by their neighbours of the United States for belonging to England. They were told that if they belonged to the union they would have 10 members in the Senate and 140 in the House of Representatives, and form part of the greatest nation in the world—that they would have their own consuls and ministers abroad'; and instead of being ex cluded from Government patronage, every office would be open to themselves and their children. But let them be treated generously and liberally, and they would never de sire a separation, and they would delight to remain under the same glorious old flag which they had hitherto served. (Cheers.) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it would only lie necessary for him to detain the committee a few minutes. The hon. and learned gentleman bad entered into the whole subject of the colonial relations existing be tween Great Britain and her North American colonies, and had expressed his views of what he considered to be the in jurious treatment the colonies had received. He must say he regretted the language used by the hon. and learned gentleman in speaking of a large claas of the people of Eng land. If the feelings of the colonists were such as he had represented, he could only say that a very different feeling existed in this country towards British North' America. In this respect there was a great difference betwpen public opinion now and in the days of our forefathers. With re - pect to the particular question of the timber duties, it was not necessary for him to detain the house, because he had fully stated his views in a letter which the hon. and learned member had alluded to as haughty, contemptuous, and su percilious ; but he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) had no proof whatever, beyond the hon. and learned gentle man's speech, that such a feeling existed among the colo nists as that just now stated to the house. The Canadian people knew that the whole policy of England since 1812 had bean to abolish all differential duties, and therefore it could not be truly said that no notice had been given that such a change would be made as was now proposed. The question was so thoroughly understood by the house and the country that it would be unnecessary for him to discuss it at greater length on the present occasion. Without in • tending any disrespect to the hon. and learned gentleman ho should now leave the decision to the committee. The committee divided, the numbers were — For the amendment .................................... 34 Against it The clause was then agreed to. On clause 15, Lord J. MANNERS moved that the chairman report progress and ask leave to sit again. The motion was agreed to. The other orders were then disposed of, and the house adjourned at half-past one o'clock. COUIV TRY MARKETS, LIVERPOOL-APRIL 20. We have had a fair attendance to-day, and wheat met a fair consumptive sale at in some instances a further ad vance of ld per cental. Flour must be written fully is per barrel and sack dearer on the week. Indian corn not much dealt in. Oats were 2d per bushel, and oatmeal 6d per load dearer ; beans 6d per qr up. Peas and barley unaltered. The market closed steady. WAKEFIELD-APRIL 20. The arrivals are inconsiderable, and wheat is at an ad vance of Is on last .week's prices, but not much demand. Foreign barley weaker. "Beans, oats, and shelling rather dearer. Averages for the week : Wheat . 4,058 qrs., at 51s Peas . • —s Beans Barley.... . 582 4os Oats lO — 3 la Rye .. — —s ()id Od Od 01 APRIL 20. e, the business to-day was EXETER—. With a tolerable attendance firm at the following prices : Wheat, white.. 6s 9d to 75 Od I Barley.. 4s Od to 5s Od Ditto red ..5s 3d to 5s Gd Oats .. .3s Ole 3s 9LI Flour, fine, 40s to 41s; se;:onds, 380 to 39s per sack. . . CATTLE. , The attendance was good, and the market was moderately supplied with fat stock. A small supply of pork carcases, at previous rates. Fat beef,p score, 10s6d to lls Ewes, per lb .... 7d to Od Pork carcases, do 9s to 10s 6d I Wethers, do .8d to Oct Sheep, per lb. Od to Nd Fat calves, d 0.... Sid to Od Rough fat, 4 3 / 4 cl per lb. BRISTOL • SUGAR-APRIL 20. The market has been quiet this week, and palms must be considered as again rather sealer. On the spot the sales are limited to a few parcels of Demeraras and Nevis, and oily three Cargoes are reported afloat, viz., one of Havannahs at 28s 6d for No. 12, and two of Brazils at 23s 6d and 24s 6d respectively, floating terms, landing weights. The refined market continues steady. Rum quiet. RAIL WAY INTELLIGENCE: TRAFFIC RETURNS FOR TAB 'WEEK. ... • Miles Opened Receipts. Railways. ,___.......___, ~. --.____,,,, 1860. , 1859. 1860. 1859. - - --.'--- X X Ballymena and Portrush... 35 35 - - Bedale and Leyburn lO 10 - - Belfast and Ballymena 65 65 1,522 1,164 Belfast and County Down 2O 20 .692 51, Birkd., Lane., & Ches. J unc 32 32 2,514 2,391 Blyth and Tyne 2O 20 1,636 1,928 Bristol and Exeter 125 - 119 6,432 6,027 Caledonian l9B 198 a 13,670 12,554 Ches.&Holyhead(withMold) 94 94 - - Cockermouth& Workington 81 231 - Cork and Bandon 2O 20 355 270 Cork, Blackrock, & Passage 6l 61 223 193 Deeside l7 17 290 251 Dublin & Belfast Junction 63 56 . 1,350 1,183 • Dublin and Drogheda 63 63 1,988 1,645 Dub. & Wicklow (iti.King,st ) 401 401 1,87 3 1,614 Dundalk and Enniskillen Dundee and Arbroath l7l 171 711 549 Dundee, Perth, & Aber. Jun. 31 31 3,139 940 East Anglian 674 674 894 861 E.Counties,Nrfk.,&E.Union 499 489 26,665 23,3A6 East Kent 194 - 356 - E.Lancashire(in.Blackburn) 111 105 _ - - Edinburgh and Glasgow... 142 ' 142 6, 370 5,9 56, Edinburgh, Perth,& Dundee 78 78 3,270 2,979 Forth & Clyde Junction ... 294 294 255 291 Furness - 1,377 3,284 Glasgow & South-Western 1834 1834 7,634 6,e52 Great Northern 283 283 23,690 22,145 , Great North of Scotland ift.Southn. & Westn.(lrind ) 226 226 8,077 7 , 511 Great Western 466 466 32,441 28,847 Hull 'and Holderness - - knverness & Aberdeen J unc 55 65 657 587 Irish South-Zastern 251 251 58 214 Killarney Junction Lancaster and Carlisle (in. Kendal and Windermere) 1001 1001 - - Lane. & Yrks.(in.Blackburn) 289 289 34,850 30,341 Limerick and Foynes 267 26 116 122 Llanelly 461 16 417 425 London & North-Western London and Blackwall 5/ st 1,622 1,300 London & South-Western . 339 307 17,639 15,2;'0 Lond. Brighton, &S. Coast. 2231 1901 16,993 12,70 2 L'derry and Enniskillen Lond., Tilbury, & Southend. 45 45 1,373 1,041 r blan.,Sheffield, & Lincolnsh. 1731 1731 11,107 10,569 blanch. S.J un.& Altrincham 91 91 1,273 898, Maryport and Carlisle 2B 28 1,048 937' Midland Midland Gt.Westn. of Irind 177 177 4,247 3,845 Monkland 52 52 1,429 1,501 blonmouthsh. Rail. & Canal 44 44 2,145 2,251 Newcastle and Carlisle 7B 78 3,607 2,959 Newport,Aberg.,& Herefor 5O .50 1,518 1,348 North British (in. Dalkeith) 154 144 5,464 4,925 North Devon 35 35 421 . 418 North-Eastern 7 46 7351 36,226 33,300 North London 9 2,603 2,292 North Staffordshire 233 23 9 3 8,144 , 7,381 North-Western 461 46./ - -. N. Yorkshire and Cleveland 101 - - - Oxford, Wore., & Wolver Peebles lB4 184 187 184 St. Helen's Canal & Railway 30 30 2,014 2, 047 Scottish Central Scottish North-Eastern ll5 115 3,840 3, 395 Shrewsbury & Birmingham 294 291 1,938 1,7t26 Shrewsbury and Chester 4B 48 3,175 2,009 Shrewsbury & Hereford Shropshire Union 291 291 1,065 911 South Devon 721 57/ 3,615 2,153 South-Eastern 306 302 21,006 16,02 6 South Wales 1714 1714 6,933 6,3:i8 S. Yorkshire and River Dun 108 108 2,691 2,7.55 Stockton and Darlington Tall Vale 54 54 4,254 4,521 Ulster • Ulverstone and Lancaster , 19 19 ea 168 Vale of Neath 251 251 1,523 1,362 Warrington and Stockport lO - Waterford and Kilkenny 3l 31 351 294 Waterford and Limerick West Cornwall 271 271 67 3 524 W.HartlepoolHarbr.&Rail 39 39 4,026 3,429 Whitehaven Junction l2 1 2 638 509 Whitehaven & Furness jun 35 35 595 519 W'haven,Cleator.diEgrmat 7 7 372 266 FOREIGN AND COLONIAL i Antwerp and Rotterdam 52 ' -52 1, 009 842 Austrian B2B 673 32,413 28,635 Belgian Eastern Junction 261 264 257 255 13uffalo and Lake Huron Detroit and Milwaukie 185 185 2,878 2,080 Dutch Rhenish lOB4 1084 3,146 2,771 Grand Trunk of Canada BBO 880 15,885 10,591 Great Indian Peninsula 1944 1304 4,324 3,274 Great Luxembourg l2l 122 2,57 1,856 Great Western of Canada 345 294 9,531 8,330 . Lombardo-Venetian 285 285 - - Lyons and Geneva 142 , 112 4,272 3,824 Madrid, Saragossa &Alicant 310 284 13,492 7,259' Maria Antonia 2l 21 - - Northern of France 602 574 43,742 40,8491 Norwegian Trunk 44 -44 - - Paris, Lyons, & Mediterrn 879 840 ' 73,161 68,925 Paris and Orleans 922 922 47,818 49,175. Paris and Strasburg 1,032 1,016 - - Royal Danish 69 69 516 505 Sambre and Meuse 6B 68 1,256 1,197 Southern of France 777 773 19,497 16,238 West Flanders W. and N.W. of France 742 721 34,339 34,293 FOREIGN MAIL PACKET LIST. in the following table E signifies that letters are despatched by evening mails from London, and 31 by morning mails. Not DESTINATIONS. Despatch Port of Mall of Mails. Despatch. due. Australia and Mauritius, via Southampton May 12, M'Southamp. May 10 Dato, via Marseilles • May 18, E May 4 Bahalnas and Havana via New York May 12, E Liverpool.. May 10 . Canada, &c. (by Canadn. pckt ) April2s, E Liverpool.. AprilZs Cape of Good Hope, Ascen sion, and St. Helena May 5, E DevOnpont May 3 China, Penang, and Singa pore, via Southampton April— ,MrSouthamp. May 2 ,Ditto, via Marseilles April 26, E , April 26 Gibraltar, via Southampton.. April— ,M Southamp. Apr 11 .26 Honduras and Blewfields .... April—, M Southamp. • , India (Calcutta) and Ceylon, via Southampton April—, M Southamp. May Z Ditto, via Marseilles India (Bombay), via South ampton April 27, M Southamp. April2s", Ditto, via Marseilles Lisbon, Brazils, Buenos Ayres, and F. Islands May 9, II Southamp. Delay 5 Lisbon, Vigo, and Oporto April 27 , M Seuthamp. Apri l : Malta, Egypt, and Aden, via April— , M Southamp . APr , 6 Southamptonn2 6 Ditto, via Marseill es ' ri l3 ' April 26 , E P Mexico and Havana - Southamp. Newfoundland April2l, E Liverpool.. United States and British N Alla America (by British packet) April2l , E Liverpool.. Ap— Ditto (by U. S. packet) - West Coast of Africa, Ma deira, and Teneriffe May 16 April 23 E Liverpool.. M West India, California, Yene- , zuela, Chili, Peru, Grey town. New Granada, &c. ,May 2, II Southamp. 1...: [ADVERTISBILENT.] —Holloway's Pills are r en o wneti,s s 8 safe and salutary remedy for indigestion, liver complal: and all manner of eruptions and skin diseases. r al : 73 in the stomach after eating, evictations of wind, pain° a . the back, aching of the right shoulder, weakness, 'angle: and tawny hue of the skip, all disappear under the Port. ing powers of these admirable pills. They contain no 0 , gredient which could by possibility hurt the feeblest frin;,,, .They effect a momentous change throughout the ©l7 thoroughly expelling all impurities, and imposing one fa organ its natural functions. 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