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tence which was entitled to the smallest weight .in Ireland refrain, in the fear of giving them in the mind of a Statesman, more especially in offence, from observances and solemnities which the mind of any one to whom such a quality as custom has sanctified and the law allows. What foresight could ever have belonged. For what ever breaches of the peace may occur are to be has been—and ought to have been foreseen laid to the charge of Protestants, although they would be—the necessary consequence of our do no more than exercise an indisputable interference in the quarrel between the Turk and right ; and the Papists are to be held blameless his Greek subjects, but to stipple the means of who, in conformity to the spirit of their re.. our own most faithful and valuable ally, while ligion, refuse to tolerate and interrupt even by we were furthering the views, and aiding the riot and outrage the innocent and legal proceed projects of that power whose every motion should inns of others. We do trot say that the Protes be to the British Government an object of dis- tarts do all we could wish in merely refraining trust, if not of apprehension ? W e n, bt't, by from express and tangible violations of the the aid of France and Russia, we have delivered law. What we say is that they do as much the Greeks. What then ? Why, these grate- as could reasonably have been calculated on ful and notable objects of our solicitude turn by those who predicted the general harmony round, and almost tell us that they wish we had and welfare of Ireland from a measure done no such thi ng ; for that they are not one which the Protestants of that country almost jot the better off for all our Phillmellenism, our unanimously disapproved and resisted. What, loans, or our blood shed at Navarin. We say however, is the conduct of the Papist again, is not this a lesson for Statesmen ? And leaders whom that measure was intended to gra will not the whole transaction furnish a chapter tify, and who by their promises and predictions in history which the tr ue hi s t or i an must stamp were pledged, as deeply as men can be pledged with folly ?— horning Herald. to any thing, to contribute by every means in The manner in which the Overseers' accounts their power to its successful operation ? As a of the parish of S',. Martin in the Fields were proof of the reckless and desperate contempt of truth to which the advocates o f emanc ip a ti on i n passed by two Magistrates, notwithstanding the objectionable shape in whi c h th e y were presented this country are now driven wh en th e y h ave oc casion to describ e the p r es en t con d uc t o f t h e for allowance, sh ows h ow nuga t ory i n practice the Roman Catholics of Ireland, we qu o t e th e lan acclaw, which r equ i res a " j ust , t rue , an d perfect gunge of' a Journal whi c h zea l ous ly supporte d, ount," has really b ecome . I n d ee d, if we are and still continues to supp or t th e P op i s h to take this in s t ance as a genera l example of the cause :—" The Catholics said th e R e li e f Bill mode of allowing parish ac c ounts, we mus t say „.nnid pacify the country, and from the ]roar at that it is a mere farce—a most ridiculous which that Bill received the King's assent the Legislature t o b e b roug h t b e f ore two M a mockery. Why are the accoun t s or d ere d b y the promise of the Catholi c s w a s k e pt re li g i ous l y , gistrates so far as on them depended.. Now, unless for their allowance ? Is it that such Magistrates some equivocation be couched under the word may do a courteous and complimentary thing for " religiously "—which, for what we know, may those who are inte res t e d i n h av i ng them passed ? only mean, with the good f a ith whi c h apper is it that the IVlagist ra t es ma y a ffi x their names tains to the religion of Rome—we venture to them by way of ornament, without inquiry or to say that an assertion more directly at va examination ? Is it that the Magistrates may riance with facts never proceeded from inor take the words of third persons as to the correct- tal tongue or pen. The writer proceeds, ness of the accounts, without entering into any " the Catholics, therefore, made good their investigation of their own ? If such were the in- word, and in their persons Einancipaton tention of the Legislature, it might as well have gave peace to Ireland." And again, "It left the Overseers and Churchwardens to audit is by Orangemen that the Catholic desire of their own accounts. But far different was the peace has been frustrated, it is owing to Orange intention with which the Statutes regulating the rancour and desperation that the evil prophecy passing and allowance of parish accounts have of their leaders has been enabled to fulfil itself." been passed. The misapplication of moneys If this were intended for irony, which neither the raised for the support of the poor caused those context nor the general character of the writer Statutes to be enacted, and their object is to will allow us to suppose, it would be very elFec guard against such misapplication of the poor tive ; but put forth as it is, for a plain statement funds in future. Therefore it was that the ac- of facts, we must pronounce it one of the most counts were directed to be submitted to the in- daring and absurd outrages against truth and the spection of two Justices of the Peace ; and it is common sense of mankind that has ever fallen the bounden duty of such Justices to examine under our observation. The Catholic leaders into the particulars of the accounts, as well as to have manifested a deeper hatred of the English administer an oath or affirmation of the truth of Government, a more entire contempt of the law, them—which oath or affirmation is not to super-, a more fixed determi na ti on t o su b vert t h e Pro sede the necessity of examination on the part of testant Church of Ireland, to tyrannize over the Justices, but is intended as an additional their Protestant fellow-subjects, to dissolve if protection to the parish, and an additional check possible the connection between England and on the malversation of its officers, by subjecting Ireland, since the Bill was passed for their relief them, if false, to an indictment for perjury. It from political disabilities, than at any former pe isa necessary cons equence of the pow er o f exa- riod. If it were n ecessar y t o a dd uce proo f s o f mination given to the Justices that they should what has already forced itself upon the cony' ic strike out such charges as they deem unfound e d, lion of every man in either country, who pays the and reduce such as are exorbitant, and should least attention to passing transactions, we need specify, on or at the f oo t o f th e account , every og only refer to the addresses of O'Connell to the such charge and payment, and the amount, so county of Clare—to the fact that the Roman far as they disallow or reduce the same. Did Catholic Association continues its sittings under Sir Richard Birdie and his coadjutor go this , a new name, in defiance of the pl a i n mean i ng o f way to work with regar d t o t h e accounts of tne an Act of Parliament—to the language con parish of St. Martin ? He has admitted himself stantly held by all the popular and influential he did not—and, according to what was re- speakers in that Assembly —to the attempt to p ported of the p rocee di ngs at B ow - street t h e other overawe and enslave th e P ro t es t an t s , ant i to day, on the a ppli ca ti on o f Mr. Fenn to enforce deter them from the natur a l an d l ega l express i on the penalty ag a inst th e O verseers , Si r Ri c h ar d Birdie appea rs t o h ave sa id, t h at w h en t h e ac- of their politic a l and religious opini o n s —t o t h e repeated declarations of ev er y man who assumes counts were brought before him h e p asse d them to be a Catholic leader, that the concessions the because they were approved of by three rate- Legislature has made, ample though they be, payers of the palish. It does not appear that are to be considered of no value, except as he ever examined into a single item—that he means of extorting still further concessions, and ever inquired why 311. was charged for Christ- that those which include the repeal of the Union, mas-boxes ?—why walking the boundaries cost and the dilapidation of the National Church, are the parish 531.?—why Mr. Ackermann was to be obtained by the same agitation which has paid for b uns 35/. ? Did h e as k f or the vouchers already been found so successful. Such are the for any of these extraordinary charges before he declarations and efforts from which the advocates put his signature to the accounts as being " just, of the Papists are to infer that the latter nefa perfect, and true?" Did he inquire why it was riously keep their promise of converting the Bill that, contrary to a most sound and wholesome for their emancipation into a successful instru regulation, Mr. Dalgleish and several other Members of the Select Vestry had the furnish- inert of pacification in Ireland. Such are the the Papistsfurnish to their advocates, grounds iota of coals, grocery, glazier's work, ironmon s, and on which they expect them to contend that gory, hosiery, linen drapery, and other commodi- they have " made good their word," and are yes, in preference to those tradespeople and actuated by a sincere "desire of repose."— shopkeepers who were not Members of the Se- Morning Post. lea Vestry ? But we shall have more to say upon thi s su bj ec t p resent l y ,—Eid. As much has been recently said and written on the subject of ex officio informations, and The organs of the Roman Catholic faction this mode of proceeding of late years having cannot deny that the state of Ireland has become been rather rare, and at all times unpopular, to worse than ever since the passing of the measure refresh the minds of our readers, we insert the which they formerly advocated as the certain and following extract from Blackstone : only means of securing the peace, happiness, and n There are two kinds of informations exhibited welfare of that country ; and they therefore, in in the name of the King; first, those which are vindication of their own political wisdom and truly and properly his own suits, and filed ex officio honesty, resort to a plea which would be insuffi. by his own immediate officer, the Attorney-yene cient if even the assertions it rests upon were rid; secondly, those in which, though the King is true, and is both insufficient and audacious when the nominal prosecutor, yet it is at the relation of all the world knows that those assertions are tit-common some private person . or informer; . terly false. All the advocates of Ernancißtion are filed by the King's Coroner and Attorney in the said that it would p ac ify I re l an d. Th ey said Court of King's Bench, usually called the M as t er o f the Crown Office, who is for this purpose the stand this absolutely and unconditionally. The pro - ing officer of the public. The objects of the King's position, as it was confidently urged by them, own prosecutions filed, cx officio, by his own At was unencumbered by any qualifications or re- torney-General, are properly such enormous misde strictions. They did not tell us that this great meanours as peculiarly tend to disturb or endanger and beneficial change would be wrought in the the Government, or to molest or affront him in the condition of the country if th e P ro t es t an t s o f regular discharge qf his royal functions. For Ireland would at once forget their recent wrongs offences so high and dangerous, in punishment oi and cease, under the aw e o f P o pi s h dominion P revention of which a moment's delay would be fatal, the law has given to the Crown the power of and in abject submission to Popish insolence, an immediate prosecution without waiting for a pre from the commemoration of those remote events vious application to any tribunal:' which must redound to the glory of their an- " And when an information is filed, either thus cestors and their country : Peace was promised or by the Attorney-General ex officio, it must be as the inevitable and immediate consequence of tried by a petit Jury of the country where the the measure. To this delusive promise time loyal offence arises, after which, if the defendant be found Protestants and Orangemen of Ireland were no guilty, , he must resort to the Court for his punish parties, nor could any reason a bl e man have ex- ment. petted of them what th e mist a k en a d voca t es o f By this summary process, the party accused Emancipation now in effect, and as their only can be arrested and committed to prison if he apology to a disappointed nation say th a t th e y cannot find bail ; and it is therefore evident, did expect, the instant and volu n t ar y sacr ifi ce of when recourse is had to a dep a rt ure f ro m th e habits, feelings, recollections, and t r i um ph s , ordinary i that it is incumbent en the Kings Attorney tution forbid the Protestants of Ir e l a nd t o mode of proceeding against th e s u bj ec t, ' which neither the law nor spirit of the Con s ti- tn General to make out a stron g c a se, for hi s own indulge. The rational anticipation would have credit and the honour of the Government. I n been that the Protestants might cherish the re- moving for a criminal inform a tion, th e r ul e i s re fused by the Court, unless th e p ar ty a ll ege d t o collection of former triumphs as a consolation under the recent injury and humiliation to which be libelled or slandered can p ur ify hi mse lf b y they had been exposed, by commemorating them swearing that the charges against hi m are totally upon a ll su it a bl e and customary occasions, in ill unfounded ; and although criminal inf orma ti ons legal mo d es , an d w ith a co n s id era bl e i ncrease of are not considered the best mode of vi n di ca ti ng , enthusiasm. Yet because they do this, which every a man's . character, yet they are by no means so man of so un d m i n d must h ave expecte d t h em objectionable as ex-officio informations, whi c h to do, the fal se p rop h ets o f peace an d prosperity are not only obnoxious to the constitution, but claim forsooth to b e a b so l ve d f rom respons ibili ty expose time defendant, if he should even be ac for their foolish or disho nes t p re di ct i ons . There quitted by a jury of his country, to immense ex is something insufferably arrogant i n th e p re t en - p ense, as well as to much vexation, inconvenience, sions of the Papists and their advocates. F or hardship, and trouble.—Morning Advertiser. their sakes, for the purpose of pacifying and conciliating them, the Constitution of England however, is has been ‘e broken in upon." This,_ Lord EGERTON'S mansion, in the Rue St. Honore, has been purchased for 2,500,000 francs (100,0001. sterling), by a company of capitalists under the firm of LavATssz.• nothing, unless their Protestant fellow-subjects POLICE INTELLIGENCE. MANSION-HOUSE. Mr. J. Some=, the ship-owner, a gentleman well known in the city of London, yesterday made a most serious complaint against the proprietors or superintendents of the Pearl steam vessel, by which but an hour before he and three other persons were very near losing their lives. He appeared before the Lord Mayor with water in his boots just as he escaped with his life. He had, he stated, been at Gravesend, and came up that morning in the Pearl. As soon as the vessel reached that part of the river which is close to Stone.wharf, he (Mr. Somes) and two other gentlemen got into a boat, which came alongside, in order to land at the most convenient spot. They most earnestly requested the superin tendents to allow the boat to push off from the steam-vessel before they put on the power of the engine, but their request was totally disregarded. The steamer scarcely abated her speed for one moment, and while the boat was actually touching her, the full power was put on. The boatman, by the violent motion of the boat, was tumbled over board, but he seized hold of the stern, the boat was instantly half filled with water, and every moment it was expected that she would sink. If he had swamped, the four would in all probability have perished, for not one of the number could swim. He (Mr. Somes) fortunately understood the manage ment of small craft well, having been a great part of his life at sea ; and he accordingly begged that the other two gentlemen would sit still, when he mica deavoured to steady the boat, which the surge, occa sioned by the rapid progress of the steamer, appeared every moment threatening to overwhelm. He happily succeeded in his efforts, but in the course of his life, and he had met with many perils, he never was so near death before. The LORD MAYOR expressed the greatest indig nation at the conduct of the superintendants, and congratulated Mr. Somes, who was a personal ac quaintance of his, on the narrow escape which most probably would not at all have been effected but for the great presence of mind and skill which had been displayed. Mr. Somes said that he prevailed upon the poor boatman who wanted to get into the boat even when she was half full of water, to hold on until she righted. The two gentlemen sat steadily while he opposed the sides of the boat to the surge, by press ing the weight of his body in such a manner against one side as to prevent the water from gushing in at the other. If it had happened that a lady had been in the boat, all would probably have been lost. The LORD MAYOR asked whether the superin tendents of the vessel then stopped ? Mr. Somes answered in the negative. The peo ple all saw the great peril in which the boat was, and cried aloud to them. The labouring men on board the colliers stopped from their work, and cried shame, and expressed the greatest fear of the consequences, and upwards of twenty boats rowed over to their assistance with all possible celerity. He was up to the knees in water when the first boat reached him. If such things were allowed to be practised, there would be no security for the lives of the public. The LORD MAYOR said he was convinced that the particulars of a case of this kind would meet the eye of the public with proper animadversions, and he advised Mr. Somes to indict the proprietors of the Pearl. Mr. Somes said that he should indict for the sake of the public. GUILDHA LL. It is known that Sir PETER LAURIE has given notice of motion for the county day of the next Middlesex Sessions, that a committee be appointed to consider the expediency of two Grand Juries sit ting at the same time, in order to shorten the attend ance of witnesses, and thereby diminish the charge upon the county-rate. The subject was referred to by Sir PETER LAURIE in the following case, which came before him yesterday : In April last, a saddle was stolen from the back of a horse belonging to a Mr. Champion, and the next day a woman offered to pledge the saddle at Mr. Knapp's, a pawnbroker, in Golden-lane, who desired her to send the party to whom it belonged. A man named Brown soon presented himself, who finding Mr. Knapp suspected it had been stolen, attempted to run away, but was secured, and the property being advertised at the • City's expense, the owner was traced, and the prisoner was committed. lie had been before convicted of felony, and was again found guilty on the seventh day of the last sessions. When the next case had been called, Briggs, the constable, asked the prosecutor if he had applied to the Court to have the property given up to him. Mr. Cham pion answered " No," he had not supposed that to be necessary. " Then your saddle is forfeited to the Sheriff," rejoined the constable. Mr. Champion, turning to the pawnbroker with astonishment, asked if this could be true. "Never mind," said Mr. Knapp, " I'll take care of it ;" and thereupon he took it out of court and carried it home, and when Mr. Cham pion applied for it, Mr. Knapp demanded 1/. for his trouble. This he deemed an imposition, and ap pealing to the sitting magistrate, Briggs, the con stable, came forward and excused himself by saying he had delivered the saddle to the prosecutor, and not to the pawnbroker. Yesterday Mr. Knapp attended to explain his con duct. Upon being asked the nature of the services which entitled him to the demand, he said that he had taken the trouble to inquire at Torrington-mews, and many others at the west end of the town, whether a saddle had been lost, and had paid for carrying it from the Old Bailey. Sir P. LAURIE said, if this claim were admitted, some persons would charge the expenses of excur sions of pleasure, under colour of trying to make such discoveries. lie inquired what expenses had been allowed at the Old Bailey. Mr. Knapp replied, that he had 225. Gd., and his father 255. The constable also had 225. Gd., and prosecutor some expences. Sir PETER said, this was tolerably heavy, con sidering the value of the saddle ; but be was in pos session of a case where a person was committed from the Worship-street office, for stealing an article worth Is. 6(1., while the county was saddled %vith 12 days' expenses to the witnesses, at 3s. 6d. each per diem, five days at the Sessions-house, and seven before the Magistrate. He ordered Mr. Knapp to give up the saddle immediately ; the 21. 7s. Gd. was an ample remuneration to him for his trouble. Mr. Knapp said he thought differently. " But you wanted to do an act of honesty and justice," observed the ALDERMAN. " Yes, but not to my detziment," replied the pawnbroker. " Well, I desire you to give up that saddle," said Sir PETER, peremptorily. _ " Yes, I will," said Mr. Knapp, " but I shall certainly take other means to recover my demand of Mr. Champion."—The parties then withdrew. BOW-STREET. A second summons having been issued upon the information of Mr. Fenn, of Charing-cross, calling upon the churchwardens and overseers of St. Mar tin's parish to show cause why they should not be fined under the provisions of the 17th of George 11. for not having furnished in the book kept for that purpose " a full, true, and perfect ac count of cer tain items of expenditure paid out of the parish funds by the said overseers ;" this office was yester day crowded to excess by persons interested in the decision of the question. Mr. MINSHULL and Mr. HALLS were on the bench, and it was understood that the hearing of the case was fixed for yesterday, in order to secure the attendance of the latter Magistrate. Mr. Fenn, .and several inhabitant householders of St. Martin's, were in attendance at the time ap pointed, but the overseers did not think proper to attend in person, and deputed their clerk, Mr. Raw lings, again to represent them. Mr. Rawlings re-stated the objections which he urged on the last occasion, and Mr• MtssuuLL having repeated his opinion that .he overseers were subject to the penalty named in the Act of Parliament for having failed to comply with its provisions, Mr. HALLS asked to see Mr. Fenn's information, and finding that it had not been laid before two Magistrates, expressed his opinion that the instru ment was legally deficient, and that no proceeding could be had upon it. Mr. MINSHULL, after expressing a different opi nion, proposed to go into the case at once, and asked Mr. Rawlings if the overseers had received the summons. Mr. Rawlings—l I,now nothing about it; they may or may not. I shall take every objection that I can, because I contend this proceeding is contrary to the act of Parliament. Mr. MiNsnum..—lf the overseers do not think proper to appear before us, I, for one, gill proceed without them. Mr. HALLS—And convict them ex park? Mr. MlNsuuLL—Most certAinly. Mr. HALLS repeated, that in his opinion the infor mation was informal. He was contemplating a con viction, and would be sorry to proceed to that ex tent, and then find that he was wrong. In the face, too, of Mr. Rawlings' declaratio*hat he would take every objection, it would be absurd to proceed upon a deficient instrument. Mr. MINSHULL contended that Mr. Halls' objec. tion was not valid, in point of law. It was of no consequence whether his information was received by one magistrate only, provided it was heard be fore two. Mr. Fenn was willing to concede any thing in reason ; and if necessary, he would present a new information. He thought it, however, not a little hard, that after two magistrates had already gone into the case, he should be told by a third that his information was not good in point of law. Mr. MINsnULL—I can only say, that I differ from my friend Mr. Halls, and am ready to proceed. Do you object to enter into the merits of the case, Mr. Halls, for the reason you have stated ? 111 r. HALLS—I certainly do ; but I beg Mr. Fenn to understand, that my objection is founded upon a point of law, and not upon the merits of the case, for I confess I know nothing of them. Mr. MissnuLL—Then Mr. Fenn must draw up a second information. Mr. Fenn—l am willing to do so, and perhaps the Magistrates will be kind enough—l ask it as a fa vour—to give me now an opportunity of vindicating my character, which to me is dearer than my life. When I had the honour of appearing here the other day, I said that Sir Richard Birnie had stated in his evidence before a Committee of the House of Commons, that he never— Mr. MINSIIULL-I beg, Mr. Fenn, you will not make any observations upon the conduct of Sir Richard 13irnie in his absence. Mr. Fenn—Nor would I do so, Sir, but that I particularly requested his attendance here to-day, in order that he might have an opportunity of hearing what I had to say. He promised he would be pre sent, but has failed to perform that promise, and it is therefore that I take the liberty of requesting the attention of the Magistrates while I read to them what Sir Richard Birnie himself said, when before a Committee of the House of Commons. Mr. MiNsuum.—Mr. Fenn we cannot hear you, for the reason I have stated. Mr. Fenn—l bow to your decision, and only meant to refute the imputation of having uttered a falsehood. Mr. llALLs—Before you give yourself the trouble, Mr. Fenn, of furnishing a fresh information, allow me to ask you if the accounts which you are desirous to inspect have been regularly passed by two Magis trates 9. Mr. Fenn replied in the affirmative, but denied that that fact had any thing to do with the present question. Mr. HALLS—I am clearly of opinion, without touching at all upon the merits of the case, that your proper course is an appeal to the Sessions. Mr. Fenn—The fact is, I do not think an appeal to the Sessions would obtain the object which I seek; besides, it is attended with an expense which I am ill able to bear, having already expended a con siderable sum of money in this business. Mr. HALLS lam clearly of opinion, Mr. Fenn, that the course which you have adopted will not lead you to a proper remedy. As Magistrates sit- ting here, we have no power to revise the decision of other Magistrates, by whom these accounts have been regularly passed. Your appeal must be to a higher power,—either to the Sessions or a Court of Law. Mr. MissHuLL—l myself advised Mr. Fenn, in the first instance, to appeal to the Sessions, and it was not until he declined doing so, that I looked over the Act of Parliament, the 17th of Geo. 11., and upon reading that, I was fully of opinion, and em so still, that if Mr. Fenn could make good his charges upon oath, the overseers were liable to a penalty. Mr. HALLS—The Act says, that the accounts of the parish shall he handed over to succeeding over seers, and that they shall contain a just,, true, and perfect account, and that these accounts shall be verified before one or more Justices of the Peace. Now, these accounts having been so verified before two Magistrates, I think that the churchwardens and overseers have done all that the law requires them to do, and I repeat, that if an appeal be made against those accounts, it must he made to some power haring a jurisdiction superior to the Magis trates who passed them. Mr. MlNsituta,--I am decidedly of a different opinion, and I contend that the Act of Parliament upon which Mr. Fenn has grounded his information, gives us the power, without reference to what other Magistrates may or may not have done, to compel the overseers to produce a full, true, and particular account of the parish expenditure, and if they fail to do so, we are authorized by that Act to inflict a fine upon them. Mr. HALLS—You are now going into the:merits, Mr. Minshull: my objection is, that we have no jurisdiction to entertain the question at all. Mr. MINSHULL—Then am I to understand you decline to proceed ? Mr. HALLS—Certainly ; I refuse to act upon two grounds—first, because in my opinion the informa tion is deficient in point of form ; and in the second place, because I think we have no jurisdiction in the case.- At the same time that lam compelled to make these objections, I beg to say that I am per fectly favourable to the application of Mr. Fenn. Mr. MiNsHem.—Then, as far as this office is concerned, the business must drop. Mr. Fenn—Perhaps Mr. Halls will indulge me li all expenses. of expenses- for my the defend ants , an d I s h ou ld 11 for a moment while I state one simpl e f act , w hi c h is this, that I have no means whatever to a pp ea l to the sessions, for this reason, that the ev id ence upon w hich alone I could ground my appli cat i on i s with held from me. The Wo r thy M ag i strate must be aware , that if I go into a co ur t o f l aw in order to esta blish certain facts, I must b e prov id e d w i t h ev idence to prove those facts. No w t h e on l y evi dence I can get is the entry i n t h e b ook of Mr. Cuff's bill, which may be for so much fl our or pota toes, for any thing I can tell the contrary. What of course btthle:j lr ‘ . saddled%u'ro l- yu IA withlwio ud becomefi an ts—But that would not be a just verdict. Mr. Fenn—Certainly not, Sir; but law and jus tice are two distinct things. no man in his senses could say that it Mr. MiNstium.—With respect t o t h e entry o f Cud's's perfect entry, and I therefore consider that the bill itself, to which a direct reference is made, becomes part of the entry, and ought to have been produced. I wish to know if the overseers will even bring forward the books. Where is Mr. Rawlings ? An officer—He is gone some time, Sir.-(A laugh.) Mr. Fenn—Sir Richard Birnie himself acknow ledged that the entry in the b oo k was imperfect, and expressed a si milar Mr . I-lALts—l certainly did say so, and I now repeat that yo u are entitle d to see the accounts. Mr. Fenn-1 have done all i n my power to o bta i n worthy nr Magistrate (M r . H a ll s) the t v opinion. there the night before, and that he had not as yel left town to follow his master Mr. Macnamara, who had some days before gone off to Wales, leaving t i lt prisoner Phillips to follow, after be should haft settled some business; and having got also a hitt' from them that they expected Phillips to call of them again before he started, he (Goddard) waite, in the house until the even i ng , w h en Philli ps ca lled to take leave just about an hour before he was 0 set out for Wales, and he then took him into of tody, and brought the three prisoners to this office , 4 Lady Bentinck said, that th ose b rooc h es as wo as the topaz and diamond ornaments, gold chains,. &c., now produced belonged to her, and were thi same that had been stolen from her cabinet duritlf her absence. The gold shoe buckles, trouser* waistcoats, &c., produced, her Ladyship said, shl also knew to belong to her husband, Lord Charlo Bcntinck, but she had not missed them, nor did sh• know that they had been stolen until after the ol'O t found them in the residence of the prisoners : a° whole of the property which was now known .0 have been carried off, her Ladyship valued at 300 hi Mr. CONANT asked, if th ere was any trace h a d the watch ? Goddard said that there had not, atO that it was almost the only part of the missing-pro' perty that had not been discovered. justice, but without effect. I have ken baffled in all my endeavours, and met with one subterfuge or another. A Parishioner—Our object is to see the accounts themselves, in order that we may be satisfied that the money which we pay is properly expended. Mr. MlNstium,—And when you require this in spection, you are shown a book which contains what may be certainly " a just and true" account, but certainly not a ... "yerfect" one. Mr. Penn—l deny that it is " just, true, or per fect," because I am ready to prove that several sums entered in that book for specific purposes were applied in a very different manner. Mr. HALLS—I hope I am not understood as sanctioning in any manner any act, on the part of the parish officers, which tends to withhold from the parishioners at large what they very naturally con. ceive to be their right. All I contend for is, that let the overseers have acted right or wrong, they bare done all the law enjoins them to do, and we have no power to fine them. Mr. MlNsuuLL—Are you aware of the 14th sec tion of the Act ? Mr. HALLs—Yes; but the overseers, in sub mitting their accounts to two Justices, by whom they were subsequently passed, are exempted in my opinion from future consequences. Even suppose they had committed a wrong, we are too late now to set them right. Mr. Fenn--Then I am to understand, Mr. Halls, you refuse to proceed. Mr. HALLS—Most certainly, and for the reasons I have stated. A Parishioner—Then there is neither law nor justice for us poor parishioners. Mr. Haus—Yes, you have the law open to you. - The two female prisoners said nothing in their defence : but the youngest repeated her assertion that she was instigated to the robbery by the prisoner Phillips, who was himself also the principal in cony Phillips positively denied this statement, or the he knew any thing of the robbery ; but in his answers to several close questions put to him by Mr. Mavis' mare, the brother of his master, who attended the examination, his variations and attempts at explanr tion were by no means deemed tatisfdctory either 4, Mr. Maenamara or the M ag i strate; an d , un d er all the circumstances, he was remanded for anothee Mr. MINSHULL—But I understamd that Mr. Penn has not means to go to law, and he therefore adopted this course as the simple. 4 and the cheapest. Mr. lIALLs—But his couDu must be legal, as well as cheap and simple. _ _ _ examination. The two female prisoners were fully committed. to take their trials,—the youngest for the robberit and the old woman for receiving the property'. knowing it to have been stolen,—and Lady Bentinclt was bound over to prosecute. Mr. MiNsuuLL—There is now an end of the matter; yet I cannot help repeating my firm convic tion that I am right in this opinion which I formed, and which I retain as strongly as ever. Mr. Fenn—l certainly cannot but lament this result. QUEEN-SQUARE. Yesterday Wm. Hogg was brought up by Ivimit the officer, before Mr. WIIITR i charged with steal* log a box-cost from the carriage of the Hon. Mir Fox, of Kensington, at the King's Theatre, on the previous evening. Mr. HALLS—But you need not yet despair; Mr. Minshull, perhaps, may yet meet with some Magis trate to join him in opinion. Mr. 11 . 11Ns1tum.—I assure you, Mr. Halls, that it was never my intention to canvass the opinion of any Magistrate upon this or any other question. Mr. HALLS—I do not mean that, I assure you, Mr. Minshull. _ It appeared from the evidence that the thieve have adopted a new plan of stealing coats, &c., from the carriages of the nobility and others at the dilfe rent theatres in waiting, which is simply this They rub a iittle mud on the back panels of the car' riage, when one of the gang goes up to the co ach.. man on the box, and informs him that the back panel is broken in. The coachman, alarmed, instantlf jumps from the box, and runs behind the carriage, where he sees the mud, and naturally thinks the carriage has sustained some injury. In the mean time another thief carries off the coats from the box. Innumerable have been the instances lately of car' riages b e i ng ro bb e d i n t hi s manner at the theatres. The prisoner was detected in the act by the officer/ and was fully committed for trial. Mr. MINSIIULL—My motives, I trust, are per fectly independent. I know neither of the con tending parties beyond seeing them before me, and only wish to do justice between both. I certainly felt strongly upon this question, and could wish to see it otherwise disposed of. Mr. HAW—And, for my own part, I beg to state, that I also am unacquainted with the parties, and have no interest one way or another. The only person I know, whose name has been mixed up in the business, is my worthy colleague (Sir R. Bit.- nie); and all I say of him is this, that had I been in his place, I never would have sanctioned the pass ing of these accounts in the manlier he hat done. Mr. Fenn—Then am I to understand that Mr. Halls is decided. Mr. lIALLs—I certainly am, for the reasons I have stated. If you wish, however, to ask my opinion upon the merits of the question, I would answer, that you ought to have access to every voucher, not as a favour, but as a right. After some further observations Mr. Fenn thanked the Magistrates for the attention they had shown him, and then retired, accompanied by his friends. UNION-lIALL Yesterday two men, named Logan and Embi, were brought before Mr. SWAIBEY, charged with breaking into the premises of Mr. Kitchin, at net mondsey, and stealing 17 pieces of muslin. A female, residing near Mr. Kitchin's premise stated that she saw both the prisoners near that place on the night the robbery Was committed.-'' The prisoners were committed. SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE. LIVERPOOL. THURSDAY, JULY 9.--.11i7,11 water 25 minutes pot' four o'clock. —Wind W.N.W.- —Arrived the EllO , Haddon, from Maranham ; William, from Nett Orleans; Wellington, Kellar, from Jamaica; Corinthiauf from Demerara ; Druid, Haslop, from illonW Video ; Maria, Smith, from Buenos Ayres; Paeiftc, Kerr, from St John's, New Brunswick ; George and Cathy rine, --, from Riga. CLEARED OIITWARDS.—The St. Patrick, Gelling, for Peel; Cordelia, Williams, for St. Petersburgh; Active, Jervis, for Havre de Grace; Thomas Dempsey, Cowl for Monte Video. At A 11LBORO U GILSTREET. Yesterday William Phillips, Ann Delany, anti Bridget Delany, mother and daughter, three prison ers, who have been in custody some days, on a charge of having been concerned in an extensive robbery committed at the house of Lady Charles Ilentinek, No. 1, North-row, Park-lane, were brought before Mr. CONANT, the sitting magistrate, for re examination. Lady Bentinck, who was accompanied to the office by Mr. Littleton, M.P., and other friends, being sworn, deposed that in February last, she had occasion to go out of town, leaving her house in charge of the prisoner Bridget Delany, who had been a short time in her service, and with instruc tions to her agent to let the house during her ab• settee, furnished as it was, to any respectable tenant that he might approve of. Before quitting town she looked over all her drawers, and which she in tended should remain locked during her absence, and, amongst other places of security, she examined a cabinet which contained some of her jewels, and then saw and left safe in it a gold watch and appen dages worth upwards of 100 guineas, several brooches, several topaz and diamond ornaments, and various other articles of value. On the 2d of this month, she returned to town and took possession of her house, which during her absence had, it seemed, been let to a single gentleman named Macnamara, residing at Llangoed Castle, in North Wales ; and on her again examining the cabinet above alluded to, she found that, although it was still locked, it had been forced open and all its contents abstracted and carried off: and she found also, that the prisoner, Bridget Delany, who had been left in charge of the house, and had continued in it while occupied by Mr. Macnamara, had quitted it suddenly, only two days before her ladyship's return to town. On this discovery she (Lady Bentinck) sent for her agent who had let the house, and he employed Goddard the officer to investigate the matter. Goddard said, that on going to Lady Bentinck's house, he found that not only the cabinet in ques tion, but the wine-cellar and several other places had been broken open and robbed, and his suspicion at once falling upon the prisoner, Bridget Delany, who had so abruptly quitted the house, he used every effort to trace out her retreat, and at last dis covered that she was residing with her mother in a place called Johnson's -court, near the New-road, and after two or three ineffectual visits there, he at last found her. On charging her with the robbery, she at first denied it, but at last, being urged upon the subject, she admitted that she had taken some of the things missed, but said, that the cabinet had been forced open by the prisoner, William Phillips, the footman of Mr. Macnamara, who had occupied the house, and that Phillips told her to. take all the things except the watch, and that Lady Bentinck would never miss them on her return. On being further asked whatshe had done with the thin g s she took, she said that she had given them to her mother, who still had the greater part of them in her possession, and that other parts of them had been pawned. Having thus questioned the girl apart from her mother, he then confronted her with the obi woman, the other prisoner, Ann Delany, and asked the latter where the property was that had been given to her by her daughter, and which she admitted having stolen from Lady Bentinck's house, upon which the old woman, clinching her fist in a threatening manner at the daughter, said to her, " Whatever you tell, say nothing against William." But the daughter replied that the caution came too late, for that she had already told all. Notwith• standing this, the old woman for some time denied that she had any of the property, or that her daugh.. ter had given her any. But on the latter repeating what she had already told to him (Goddard), and saying that it was now useless to attempt to conceal matters, the old woman led him down into a kitchen, and after unlocking three separate doors that opened to a coal cellar, she took out from under a heap of coals the box now produced, containing the topaz and diamond ornaments, neck-chains, &c. He then searched further through the house, and found the pair of gold shoe-buckles, four pair of trousers, seven waistcoats, five pair of pantaloons, and the several other articles of wearing apparel produced. He next questioned the taco female pri soners about the man William Phillips, and after PAINTED and PUBLISHED by MURDO YOUNO, at tk some hesitation they admitted that he had slept Ouzel, 112, STRAND, LAMM • • Pa,,ged Holyhead, inward bound, the Alexander, from Maranham. THE DUKE OF NORTHUMBERLAND.---The Royal Charlotte yacht was ordered to be in readiness for sea yesterday morning at five o'clock, to take his Grace for a cruise toward the north of Ireland. Carlingford we understand, will be the first place to which the Vice. Regal party will go. Sir WATKIN W. WYNNE and the Earl of ERROL will accompany the Noble Duke. Her Grace the Duchess, we understand, proceeds by land to meet his Excellency ; probably at that beautiful romantic spot Rosstrevor.—Dublin Morning Register of wed liesclay. Mr. BAKER STAPLEY, of Hansel!, having lately discovered an old partridge destroyed while sitting on 16 eggs, he immediately placed them under a banters* hen, when, after only five days' incubation, she hate%ed the numerous progeny, and, faithful to her charge, cow tinues to watch over them with every parental care.---• Kentish Chronicle. L m BOURN, who murderedibis wife and imme diately thereafter cut his own throat, though the wound was not mortal, lived at Cumnar about four years since, and after the death of his first wife left that village to seek work. At the beginning of the following winter, he re turned to Cumnar with the wife. he has just murdered, where they resided for several months. She is spokes of in that village as a very industrious woman, who showed the utmost kindness to the children of the former wife. The LAMBOURN family have for many generations been inhabitants of Cumnar. Our readers will recollect that MIKE LAMBOURN of that village, is a very eonspicsous character in the " Kenilworth" of Sir WALTER Score. —OxArd Herald. BIRTHS. On the 10th inst. the lady of George Chapple Norton, EN. M. P. of a son. On the 9th inst. in Upper Norton-street, the lady of the Rev. W. Eennett, of a daughter. MARRIED. On the 9th inst. at Chobham, J.hn Jerram, Esq. of London, to Miss Rowell, daughter of the late W. Rowell, Esq. of Chobham. DIED. On the 9th inst. at Merton Cottage, Surrey, Miss Jarvirl io her Mel year. On the 9th inst. at LoWer Clapton, Mary,"the beloved wife of J. Doherty, aged 60. On the sth inst. at Holloway, John Williams, Esq. is , his 74th year. On the 6th inst. at Tunbridge-well•, Miss Harriet Pol. lard, youngest daughter of the late Wm. Pollard, E s q., of Halifax. On the Bth inst. Anne, the beloved wife of Mr. John Blackburn, of the Minories, after a protracted illness, in the 60th year of her age. • On his passage from India,- 15th of April, Mr. G. P. Tayler, of the Hon. East India Company's Madras service• aged 23. On the 9th inst. at Ladywell.cottage, near Lewisham , i4her 41st year, Elizabeth, wife of Mr. Robert Main, of Pickett-street, Temple-bar. On the Sth inst. at Sudbury, Suffolk, Phebe Ann, the wife of Mr. Wm. Hill. On the Bth inst. Mr. Wm. Smallpiece, of Wa'worth -. common, aged 67. On the 9th inst. at Highgate, Miss CAndery, of Long stock, Stockbridge. On the 7th inst. Charlotte, wife of Thos. Blayds, Esq• of Burby, near I eeds, and eldest daughter of . M. Hindi Esq., of Newton, aged 30. At Atnberley, Sussex, Angelina Ross, second daughter of Mr. T. Oxtoby, Pentonville. . On the 6th inst. at Brighton, Catherine, the youngest daughter of the late James Novell, Esq. , Barrister-st-laers deeply and sincerely lamented. On the 9th inst. at Dudly-grove, Paddingtan, W. T• Fitzgerald, Eqq. On the 6th inst. at Cheltenham, Margaret, eldest daughter of the late Peter Snell, Esq. of Whitley Cotter Clout:este' shire. At North Tidworth, the Rev. John Hughes, Rector of that parish for 22 pars, and late Fellow of Worcester College, Oxford. s /