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advised the Noble Earl to try a short residence in America, after which probably he would comeback in better humour with his country, With respect to the stthjedirnmediately bef6re: the House, he re peated in substance whit had been said by Earl CAX- , DEN and Lord ILswßEsautty ; and contended, that 66 far . from restriaion; rather too much indulgence had been eVended to the West lndia Islands re- Speeting their trade to America. I , and 11.4 IPKESBURY aisti ntc,tly e7cplained that fhe Law with respe6l to our Colonies Was, that they shoidd not import any articles unless in British bot twits, but that the instruCtions to the Governors went to this, that they should suspend that Law for the purpose of admitting iirtAes in Neutral bot r toms, which they found it Was indispensably neces sary to admit in that .Way, in all which cases they roust a6t upon their own - reSponsibility. The ground of his .obje6tion to the Motion was, that if granted, it would prOduce partial information, whereas much more' information would' be necessary, for the dis chssion of this important subjeet, and fir the pro duCtion Of that there 'was not time at 'this period of the SeSsion. , The Earl of CARYSFORT contended that the sys tetra of which Noble I.,ords on the other side had talked, and Upon which they a&ed, with respe& to the West India Islands, was in ilia, no system, as it went: to encourage the Governors of the different - Island% continually to violate the Law. I.ord,lllitiaowny observed, that the system' upon which Ministers now acted with respe& to the West - India Islands was the same Ayhich had the support of the Noble Earl (CON - smat)" for many years dur ing a 'former Administration., Earl STANI{OPE ocplained, asserting that lie was not out of humour with the. Country, but with the Ministers. Lord Hor.,LAND shortly replied, and the Duke of MoNTRQSE explained. The House .then divided for proceeding to the .Prder of the Day. Contents Not-Contents Majority -, —6 • Dttxu, OF ATIIOLL. On re-entering, the Douse we found' the Earl, of WESTMORI4ND moving.for a variety Of Papers re ptive to the Claims of the Duke, of Atholl ; which were ordered, he s . e cora , reading. of the Duke of A.tholV s Cam-, pensation WI was ,fixed for Monday, for which day the Lords were ordered to be summoned. SMUGGLING BILL The Committee on the Smuggling' Bill was, post poned till to-morrow, When CounSelare to be heard on behalf of the Island of Guernsey 'against it. Adjourned till to-morrow'(this day).' HOUSE OF COMMONS, TIIITODAY, JULY .4. Counsel (Mr. 'ADAM) and evidence were heard On Moore's and Gardner's Divorce Bills, by which th e Marriages and Adulteries' 'Were proved, as also the Judgments obtained in the Court of K ing's Bench; but no order was made upon them. A Message from the Lords announeed that they had agreed to the three Exchequer Bills Bill, the isle of4llan BBL . and several private Bills. IMPEACHMENT. OF LORD MELVILLE. Mr. fill/TBREAD brtinght up the Report of the committee appointed to hype& the Lords' Journals iii respeEt to. their Proceedings on the Charges ad duced against Lord Viscount which was ordered to lie on the Table. He next brought up the Report of the Committee • appointed to draw up the articles of Impeachment voted by the House against Lord Visconnt which being shortly read, /fro , .he statedi that when he moved a Reiolution itt the House, lhat the Noble Lord should be impeached, he was prepared with the Attieles Which he pro Posed. He then considered the Balances lost, in the case of Mr. Jel-, licoe to be of serious importance ;, but as that 4-, iiion did not seem to 'meet with the general concur rence of the Ilonse, the Committee had .thought proper to limit it. The Charges, which .lie first in .tended to (.011fine to three heath,' now consisted. Of Eight Articles, in which there was only one which 'VW,, abßOlritelli: new, and not included in their former Resolution, M the time Mr. Trotter was appoint loci of the Navy, 'k appeared that Vis ,count MelVdie Was in possession Of a Balance of 10,0001. Which had not since been matisfaCtorily ac counted for. There was another Charge, arising out Of the adrnission of Viscount Melville on the floor of that House, when lira Was making his defence, that, be had been possessed of 10,0001. Navy Money, the application of which, he declared that he never would disclose to any human being, The Commit -oe, therefore, agreed to Make that the ground of a specific" Article. Besides these, there were the sums 0(22,0001. advanced to .Viscount without mterest ; also,; for which it'ap ivared .that interest , had been paid ; ano from t 0,0001. to 2 0,0001, which went to what was called 'between them the mixed account, and whi(iii; was altogetir. inexplieable. 'He thought it tlutt. this explanation shouhL in the event, be rvelr tg , the Muse and m ove d, in the first plaCe, That the Boort do he on the Table, and be print , eel for the use bi the Hou',,e' ; " which being . agr(x-td to, he movo, in ordtir to give. Gentlemen time to e,linitie the Articles of .Chtfrge after their hung $ pFinted, " Inn. the Report betaken into considera tion on l'londay next."-Ordered, The Irish Revenue Regulation Bill was reported, and ordered to, be read a third time to-morrow: On the third reading of the Bill to indemnify all Persons for the gyidence they may give on the Im vac:Ancient of Lord Melville, .41r, ITHIA.10;41) said, that as Mr. TTotter must necessarily be a very Material Evidence in this cas e, on account of tl.e many transktions which Were only knOwn betweim him and Lord Melville, he had a clause to move, tor making exoneration more comprehensive than was first Intended. Se- Neral great and emir cot Lawyers, he said, held the f. , ,inion that; .notwitktanding any Chit Process Ji . atinst him, Mr. Trotter conia riot refuse, but may be compelled to answer any questions that may be demanded of 'Mtn on 4 (2611041 ProSeCutio4.— DUr; 45' there were other L , oners . of considerable' adthority, 'who in a contrary opinion, tie 4wiared to obviate atiy cli l Sic ltlty goat may ocetir,-;- ported by an Hon. Gentleman opposite to him (Mr. R. DUNDAs, son of Lord 'Melville), who had ialewia a Moderation and temper, throughout the whoki: of these proceedings, which entitled,him to his re:sp,c6t, and to every consideration from thb House. The . Clause he had to propose was asTollows : That any evidence 'which Mr. Trotter Might have given before the Committee of the House of Commons, or may:- hereafter. 'give in the- topeachment against Lord Viscount Melville, should 'not he brought against him in any Civil Suit instituted by the Attor ney General by order of this House." ' Sir TI .11;/....FORD . did not thinly that the Clause proposed was StlffiCiellt for its - objeel It could not relieve Mr. Trotter froni all embarrassment in the delivery of his telairriony ; for though it Nvould pre vent its being brouglit evidencv;against him in a Civil Process, it might _make a very -untivourable impression on the minds of some of those who might have afterwards to decide upon his conatiat as —There was a great diversity of opinions between Lawyers 'on this subject, and he begged leave to read One, of a Gentleman of considerable eminence, Mr. DALLAS, which held, that in Criminal and Civil Cases, in the situation pia Witness, in neither' case could he be compelled to give evidence which might criminate himself. That opinion also referred to Mr. PEEK'S Book for authority, and Cases to sup port that doctrine.. He . admitted, that i he was one of those, who did not.think tliis a subjeCt of any Prosecution—luit, as the Resolutions of the House remained yet unrescinded, and as the obje& of 'every man must be, that the ends of substantial justice 'should be obtained, the Witnesses ought to be relieved from any sort of embarrassment, that they might have no hesitation in freely answering such questions as may be put .to them on- their cross-examination by his Lordship's Counsel. Hitherto the Civil Process against Mr. Trotter had only been suspended, and might, by their Vote, be renewed again ; but, in order to put hilt in a situation, of protection against all consequences of his evidence, he thought it right that the Civil Suit 'should be given up altogether. Mr. WHITBREAD replied, 'that if the Hon. Gentleman would propose a Clause to the effe& he , mentioned, it would be for the House to decide whether they would adopt it or not. Mr. ROSE 'observed, that though by Mr. WfirT.. BREAI)'S Clanse; Trotter's evidence on the Impeach ment could not be produced against him, yet it may afford subje& of inquiry to the ATTORNEY-GENERAL, Which would lead to the produaion of other evidence that might equally affi:Ct Mr. S. BOURNE' argu' ed, that, notwithstanding • this 'indemnity against any Civil Process, yet .it could not prote& him against. an indiament for Perjury if he should contradiCt any part of his former evi dence.. - • Mr. S:tijeczne BEST did not consider this afford ing a favour toMr. Trotter,. whom he did not think entitled th any, but as meant to render him a more competent and better Evidence than he otherwiSe might be. The Clause provided, that any evidence . he may give.shOuld not afterwards be brought against him ; but as it was never meant to place hitn in a situation of coriiplete •conifort, it was guil:icient to protea him against the etreas sof his . own evidence, and he deserved nothing more, nor any peculiar in didgence whatever. .• • Mr. S. BOURNE. explained, that Trotter's deuce might possibly atibrd . Matter of inquiry to the Attorney-General, whi'cli would ,afterwards operate against hinL . . , • Mr, ROBERT DUNDAS „said, he had no Ob , jeaion to the. Measure now proposed---but did not think it sufficiently extensive, as, for th 2 iicls of justice,Trotter should be relieved from all-embarrass ment, and totally exempted froth all' fame Cense (paenees. i • Wittallar,Ao explained his - main objea to be; that Trotter shod be enabled to give an. un biassed evidence. , Mr. ALEXANDER declared, that he had no wish whatever to get rid, by a side-wind, of any Resolutions or Votes .of the House, however he. might have disapproved of them ; but he submitted, whether it Would suit be better to postpone the fur ther consideration of the Bill till the House should have decidcd.ott the Articles of Impeachment ? The 'CHANCELLOR qf the EXCHEQUER thought, that, for the justice of the case, the House should have the benefit of Trotter's unbiassed evi dence, which would not be obtained by' the pro posed Clause ; for it was' not enough that Ws evi , dence could not be produced in a Civil Suit against him, as that very same evidence may make a ground for further examination and inquiry by the Officers of the Crown. The evident and simple proposition therefore was, whether, 'after the Impeachment had been voted, the Civil process should not cease ? Ile was aware that, since the vote of suspension, the Attorney-Gneral could not take any further pro ceedins without fresh instrations from the House; but to put the matter out of doubt, he thOught the Civil process should.be put amend to. Mr. WHITDREAP said, that if such was the sense of the House, he should consent to withdraw his Motion. Mr. C. W. lANitorE spoke in favour of a total ex emption: Sir W. BURROUGH,S Was of, the same opinion. He recommended, that the Record of the Civil Pro cess should ha IA ithdrawn ; and for that purpose, that the farther consideration of the Bill be deferred till to-morrow. Sir NV. Euroap saiil, that in case of the Motion being withdrawn, he should to-morrow move, that the Civil Process against Mr. Trotter be Withdrawn. After a feW observations from i Mr.IVI /AIM FORCE, the Motion was withtlraWn, and the further consi deration of the Bill postponed till ; to-morrow, HusktisoN moved, that a Message be tent to 'the Lords, to acquaint them that their request to communicate the reasons and evidence ( - )n which a sum of money was voted; in corupcnSation to the Duke of Atholl, was contrary to the practice of Par lithnent, and dint the HOOSe deems that a suffitient Answer to their Message; - which was agreed to, and Mr. Ai.EXANDER Ordeki4 to ramp -- up this Answer. PA4LIC REVENUES. Mr. JOHNSTONE pwsente4 his Estimate, without , any comment, of the F , Finances of the Cot:nu:Ty for the preAent year, consisting of a long string of Reso lutions; the prat of whidt Resohied, di .it the Public Debt of this Country, on the st at< Fe bruary, 1805; was 567,558,0001 , out of which the turn of 5,629,0001. bal been reffeernecl by the Com- A ,i,,,;nigtotilio• the Sinking Fund."' MAILS. Amity &D--t Dublin,. t Waterford. Dor —2 liamburgh, 2 Gottenburgh, I Lisbon, t Dublin. . PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT TWZI.VE O'CLO CK. Cnnsols - 60 1 Red. Ann. - sS 11 Ornniurn - THE SUN. SOLtg QUIS DICIkg BALSUM AUD4At ? L 0 N 1) 0 N, FRIDAY, JULY 5, 1805. WE are extremely happy in being enabled toin form our Readers, ,that a Telegraphic account jias been received at the Admiralty, stating, that La Desince Frigate, with the homeward-bound Jamaica Fleet under her .Convoy, passed Portsmouth this morning. ' The Siyan Cutter, which arrived at Yarmouth on Wednesday night, from the Texel, brings informa tion that the Dutch Fleet there have shewn an in- Clination to put to sea, having come down as low AS the fifth buoy of the Texel; but they were pre vented from proceeding further ,by the wind falling short; ' - WITEN we copied the Article from the French Papers *hid' mentioned the Capture of Trinidad, we stated that it was -not entitled to the slightest credit. Indeed,' upon a comparison of dates, it ' is absolutely imposSible that the Combined Fleets could have gone to Trinidad before their. arrival at, .Martinico. We have no doubt but the recovery of `. Trinidad is' an objea which th,6 Cow . t of Madrid has very much, at heart, and if, upon the arrival of the Com bined Fleet atMartinico, they had found the Rochefort ,Squadrcinthere, it is probable that the Spanish Squa. dron might have been detached ,to make an attempt upon Trinidad, while the Combined French Fleet pro ceeded to attack Jamaica, But their expeelations beingidisappointed, the French Admiral, of course, . . . Would not detach the Spanish Squadron uppn any separate Fxpeclition, as that would leave him with a force very little superior to the Fleet under Admiral DACIIRS. We have already stated our opinion upon the operations which will'probably be, attempted by the Combined Fleet, Oa we think it unnecessary to occtipy the time of our Readers with further conjec tures upon a subje& on which all doubt will, we trust, in a few days, be removed. WE have reason to believe that the reports which have been circulated of the resignation of Mr. Fos- TER are unfounded. There certainly did exist some differences, ,but they are nearly, if not entirely, ad justed. If that Gentleman had resigned, Mr. Coßtor would, in all probability, have been his successor. Yesterday morning the Swedi4i and Russian Am bassadors transa&ed business at Lord Muigrave's Office. At one o'clock a Cabinet Council was held at his- Lordship's Office, which was attended by the LORD CHANCELLOR, Earls. CAMDEN and WESMORLAND, Viscount CASTLEREAGH, and Mr. PITT. WO understand the meeting to be held for the pur pose of making the arrangements for the prorogation of Parliament, and the result was, that it was-found the public business unfinished would render it im possible to dose the Session of Parliament before Thursday or Friday next. It was likewise reported, that the Council took into consideration the propriety of closing the Ses sion of Parliament by Commission. At two o'clock the Council adjourned to the Queen's House, for the purpose.of meeting His MAJgSTY, and, it was'un derstood, to advise His MAJRSTY upon this subje&. Parliament will, we understand, be prorogued by Commission, ,on Thursday or Friday next at the latest,„ , The Loire Frigate is likely to be6ine the terror and the scourge of the Enemy. She arrived in Cork harbour, on Thursday laqt, with the raillant Priva teer, of Bourtleaux, of :30 guns, and 940 men, which she captured an Tuesday se'rmight of Cape Clear, after a eliace of ti.velve hours. The success of the gallant MAITLAN fl, on this occasion, seems to have been owing to the most judicious management , — After inirsuing the Enemy for four hours, heperceived that he gained nothing' upon her upon which he ordered his guns to be run in, the shot to be re moved off the gun deck, and sent all his people be low. In this situation, as the seamen term it, he overhauled the chace in eight hours. The lifelam pv mkt Brigiant Frigates hove in sight just as the Loire was within vun-sllot of the Privateer. , . VAVAL Argil/S.. -L.-#-0- PI. of "PUTUI JULY •-•-Arrived La Loire Frigltr. , 40 guns, Capt. P. S. I \ fAITLAN'n, from a enti le, On the 25 th ult. about 100 leagetes W . , fronl C a l'' Clear, she fell in w i t h . and captured. thelrench Shit, P r ivateer La Vaillant,in ou ntiag 30 - eigh ivith tew pounders, with 967 men, which is arrividlete La Loire. She had been feu days out of Beerde a4l when captured, and on the 15th of June had 0 1 4 the Lord Charles Spencer Packet,front Ha the;' to Falmouth, the Captain of which, with the goeta s i part of the Crew, were re-taken in La PO° The Mail was thrown overboard, and sunk, 00'164 -to the Enemy's getting possession of the Packet. La rniilant is a most complete Vessel, well fitted for aellion or chace, and sails remarkably first; 0 4 what the French call a privateer Natioaal Conetter. and hoists a pendant. ' . Fleet MI Brest, dated the 9t Letters from the inst. state their being a ll well—Eneruy as usual. A The Glory, 98, Aear-Admiral STIRLING' Ad - joined the Channel Fleet from Spithead. rniral CORNWALLIS was hourly expeded ou t 9 liarilenr, Oa, Captain MARTIN, sailed the 97 11 t ull ' from off Rochefort, to relieve the Roya/ Sorertil Admiral fIICE.ERTON, 110, Rear for England the moment the' Bedicur joins the Fer, rol Squadron under 'Rear Admiral Sir ft. CAL P " ° ' The Nybole Fleet, in censequence of the arrival ofr which is to Tr:Lb:pogo/de, 44; 'off Brest, with the account of,thb, trilled from the Mereury, , Enemy being at Martinique (which news slie' ° VERSE, 110ITIOWard-b011Itd), are on the alert ;t ry . the' Lady Warren, 3 0 , Captain Nfl;:sr.Lss, errivicl last Saturday, 'with ten Viauallers from Mb: Admiral Lord GARLINEtt ordered every Sh l P t° completed with ProvisionS, aze, for five rflontl4l6o,' 'Sailed the. Favourite Sloop of W ar,witllo? :. je,' lion. Captain Dee: for the West Indies. ' ........,- ~, l AR MOUTH,. JULY -- ea s t 4. 0 0 the Swan Cutter, .from t h e . Tey:el, with P. tor, night arrive Dis d 116 ! for the Admiralty, which were.' iininerligtell ',,, warded to London. She bring's the D u t c h Fleet there have shewn incliostioa 5 th 3 put to sea, they having come down Si '',44,00 rapatea .-- , fifth buoy of the Texel, but wft.V. P 'rt. proceeding further by the wind falling sho 10 . 4 Sailed the Inger Helena, Tiaalisorl, I°l. way. . . . .............. If ;elle, al SHEERNESS - , JULY 4.—Arrived, tile 0 . *rib S e ' J. S. CARDRN, , from a Cruize , in , the . a i v et• and l imps Tender, Lieut. Cos,. &in the Poet, information, ter; with impressed Men and Voltulteeri for tile and wiled again. Sailed the Ekphant for the Dowiti• 11/ Ships as per last, with the addition of th e I "' e Coax,_ Jinx .—on Saturday Illorah! Est :lls Majesty's Frigate La Loire brought into Cove IPrge French Corvette Privateer, which she toA 0 14 a long dine, off cape Clear, on thc l'rec ........... malLei P O ETSMOIrif, JULY 4.-,--The. Co;Ila 'iji Capt. TAYLOR , has made the signal to sail %O h the Bermudas, Convoy for Portugal. • Arrived the' ~,turora Fripte, Capt. Logo(0.1 tWillj the Islands, The Espiegie Sloop, capt,Nan;itgi ilosto signal for Convoy to Cork., ' ~....--. mg tbi DEAL, JULY 4 .*--Sailed through the • DOO . .. whither she carried the Govelar:" to Hercules, Et zsgor, for . Oporto; e live Frg° Leith; end Utile . Sloop of War, fOT Mu'gene;. )0,1 Ara 4 Fri Arrivegda.tfers°,r7wi°tiffi 6 wch • . nevooulraoc:lnG%til:b'iriosllsloe 11 main in the Downs with the rest Of' Ills .1'40.4f;i,. Ships as per last; and 1,072(10711,112401.13Y r fOr L'l tar. , • the eil i° Came down from the Wire and sailed, and J' tio:e.tiZil'eneibiarraare'f'.Bi°proeltozltlti...o.tuilb.e iEsaUltsi-dj:rdsicasii iffitll the °llt'(sl'r4ll,ll. pottialot bound and 'Transports under Convoy tg 1 fidet A 250" The Cal Sis and Boulogne Squadrons ar- -, is o Wednesday evening 1-fts IVIAJE.II, Zelre„is,;(lo EtIZABItTit, . NiArtlre anti ~.A.m.sLIA, wa 'Terrace, at Wiudso r Tt Sas Yesterday morning.' PRINCgSSZS 06leigi b' A 0 01 PIIiA, and AgELt A, 'accompanied 11, j a Vt r i o and Colonel esanow, took an airins . 0 Great Park, tin hoieback. , „,, t ia a hill,toa Hatt '.IVAJsTY and PEINCSSS NIA" l o a plia., and fnur, 'and. PRICE,SS 147.A.tzAlorni;01 t parY• and pair, took. an airing in Wittcl4Dr a too' ti"°4 The Bishop of Exuma is:goiug on 0 '; Cornwall. . A that . ' . 1e I C declare-- ~,,,,, re: His IsifxszsTY, it is sao, o' - the J-- '.Ol sight is much better than it Wag Igheitl/0 o r , et a sultation. took. place. it- so, thy-`! ',gave' Deco . the disorder to be a ca t bait 101°' I/ r rid ° taken. - veriOr'l, he pOSO I ft (P The charaaer which Mrs, Sly t__ veoo so la Edinburgh on Saturday last, orc,,T.'o'oloo:4lutp, Worhhoe4e, \vas Mrs. Haller. litotiiel'it 00 ot the Bo)ces was raised to 105. Od• ""`„icat el,' opt We are glad'to find thatt.his br,riti tc, 00' our greaVAaress bovicsite4.;ol.-4.1 of avol'.: ' Thursday• Mr. SKISSON moved, that the Debate on these resolutions be ciaerrod till Tuesday next, The ATTORNV.Y-GENERAL moved, that the Lords' I,r,lclidincuts to the Stipendiary Curates' Bill be now taken into consideration ; which being agreed to, when the SPEAKER came to some which altered the quantum money, he reminded them that it was of such a nature that that House could not, con sistently with its peculiar privileges, concur in. On the. Motion of the ATTORNEY-GENERAL, the further consideration of the Bill was postponed to this day three months. He then said, that as the Session was so near-its close, ,and that his Motion might be produdive of some discussion, he should defer bringing it forward till early in the next Ses sion. The Pilots' Regulation Bill was committed, and ordered to be read a third time to-morrow ; as was also the Southern Whale Fishery Bill. ... The Paddington Coal, the Scotch Assessed Taxes, and the Consolidated Fund Bills, were read a third time, and passed. The Irish Duty ColleCtion Bill, the Irish Distil lery, and the Irish Military, Survey Bills, were re ported, and ordered to be read a third time to-mor row.—Adjourned.