The Sun. — London, England, 1858-05-21 00:00:00

THE -7.- SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY Wonder at the event, that eminent statesmen have ac tually dined together. (Cheers and laughter.) o I am yory glad to hear that men engaged in the strife f poli tic" can dine together without personal hostility. I will 47 nothing of the viands eaten, or of the beverage drunk tool the "loving cup" that went round. One of the oldest and best of beverages was that " nepenthe, drink of soverayne grace, devised by gods ;" but that drink was given to the wise, who had arrived at that time of life when they were prepared to take their place. with heroes in another sphere. (Cheers and laugh ter.) It could not be that liquor which filled the flowing gu p, for these ancient and wise statesmen were deter mined to cling to this world, and mix in all the conten tion and turmoil of politics. (Cheers.) Now, I ask, is the house prep a red to overthrow the Government on this question, w - bich the right hop mover had placed before it in ambiguous tismß, and is it ready to plange the country into the turmoil of a general election, at a mo ment when the people are only just slowly recovering Iron the effects of the moat tremendous commercial panics ? (Cheers.) Is the house willing to delay all legislation and all discussion on reform till next year ? (Hear, hear.) Above all, is the house willing to take upon itself the responsibility which will attach to it if it avows the policy of the proclamation ? lam terrified for the future of India when I hear of the indiscriminate slaughter which is going on there. A gentleman—l believe a missionary, who has written a series of very able letters to a most respectable weekly newspaper in London, says it is estimated that more than 10,000 per eons have been put to death in India by hanging alone. (Hear, hear.) When you find that such opinions are ex pressed in India as I have to-day extracted from a Cal cutta newspaper, are you willing to do anything that can by possibility be suspected as confir min g a policy of that description ? I have extracted this paragraph from the Englishman, a Calcutta newspaper, which, speaking of the men of the disarmed regiments, who probably number from 20,C00 to 30,000, says— " There is no necessity to bring every &pay to a court dial and convict him of mutinous intentions before putting him down as guilty. We do not advocate extreme or harsh measures. nor are we of those who would drench the land with blood, but We have no hesitation in saying that were the Government to order the execution of all these Sepoys they would be legally and morally justified in doing so. Th ere would be no injustice done.' I ask the house to remember that these men had com mitted no offence—that their arms had been taken from them—that they were merely suspected of being likely to be tempted to commit offences—and yet an Englishman, one of our countrymen, writing in a public newspaper in Calcutta, publishes such atrocious senti ments as those I have just read ! I believe that the whole of India is trembling with volcanic fires, and that we should be guilty of the utmost recklessness, and of a great crime against the monarchy of England, if we were to do anything which would be an avowal of the procla metion that has been issued. (Cheers,) lam asked on this question to overturn her Majesty's Government. Why, the policy adopted by the Government on this subject is the policy that was cheered by hon. members on this side when it was first announced. (Hear.) It is a policy of mercy and conciliation. False—may I not say ? —or blundering leaders of this party would induce us, contrary to all our associations and all our principles, to support an opposite policy. I am willing to avow that I am in favour of justice and conciliation—of the law of justice and of kindness. Justice and mercy are the supreme attributes of the perfection which we call Deity, but all men everywhere comprehend them. There is no speech nor language in which their voice is not heard, and they could not have been vainly exercised with re gard to the docile and intelligent millions of India. You bad the choice. You have tried the sword. It has broken —it now rests broken in your grasp, and yon stand hum bled and rebuked. (Some cries of " Oh, oh," from the Opposition.) You stand humbled and rebuked before the eyes of civilised Europe. (Renewed cries of " Oh," and cheers.) You may have another chance. You may, by possibility, have another opportunity cf governing India. If you have, I beseech you t ) make the best use of it. Do not let us pursue such a policy as many men in India, and some in England, have advocate I, but which hereafter you will have to regret, which can end only, as I believe, in something approaching to the ruin of this country, and which must, if it be persisted in, involve our name and nation in everlasting disgrace. (Lsad and prolonged cheering.) Mr. COLLIER said that all sitting on that side of the house fully recognised the great powers of the boo. member for Birmingham (Mr. Bright), and ;were willing to cooperate with him on certain questions. However, upon certain subjects relating to peace and war they were completely at issue with the hon. gentleman. For example, had they followed the policy advocated by the hon. member with regard to China, it would have been impossible for England to have held her settlement in that country. (Hear ' hear.) Had they again adopted his views with regard to the war with Russia, their policy must have ended in nothing but humiiiatton and disgrace to the country. (Cheers.) Indeed, upon more than one occasion the question had been raised, did not the hon. member fer Birmingham seem to regard more the honour of his country's enemies than hie country's ? (Hear, hoar) Now, with reference to the issue raised by the right hon. member for Oxford, he must say, in the first place, that the whole argument grounded upon the keeping back of the latter received by the bon, gen tleman the member for Neatharopton ( Vlr V. Smith) was given up when it was announced by Lord Eden borough in another place, and by the right hon. gentle man the Chancellor of the Exchequer in that house, that the proclamation of Lerd Canning, announcing a gene ral confiscation, required no explanation, as it was inde fensible aed he ventured to affirm that the despatch sent out in answer to the proclamation was one of the most disgraceful documents that ever issued from a Minister of the Crown. The hon. member f Birmin,g ham had spoken a good deal upon the consequ. aces cf overthrowing the present Government. Now he (Mr. Collier) was well aware that there were a great many sitting on that side of the house who wished the Fresent Government to stand, but then the problem of ho v to enable a Government to stand was a problem more diffi cult cf solution than that solved by Columbus. (Hear, hear.) During the short time they had been in office, the Government had committed sot one but a series of blunders, and it was apparent, therefore,"taat it was no longer sae to entrust the administration cf the affairs of the country into such hands. (Hear, hear.) Sir W. FRASER said that the noble viscount op posite, the member for the West Riding (Viscount Goderich) hied in his most indiscriminating manner con founded the case of the mutinous sepoys and the native inhabitants of Oude. The former of these had undoubt edly been . guilty of an enormous mime, and he would aucordingly show them no mercy, but towards the latter he would deal out a very dlferent order of justice. • He believed that a great deal of time had been lost in dis cussing the meaning of the tern confiesation. Nov he should not reopen any question upon that point, as he thought gentlemen in England would pretty clearly un derstood what was meant if any were told their estates were all to be confiscated. (Hear, and a laugh.) He could not help thinking, too, that the fire directed from that side of the house against the late right honourable President of the India Board had been rather too in cessant and too concentrated. In that case it seemed to him the doc:rine as to subor iinate responsibility had been overlooked. On the other hand, it would have been more becoming in the noble lord the member for Tiver ton if be had come earlier to the rescue of his subor dinate. (Hear.) Captain VIVIAN had listened with great regret to the speech of the hon. member for Birmingham (Mr, Bright), for be could not conceives ow one, whose taesets were so universally acknowledged, could have conde scended to such littleness in Lie argument. Ile had tried to find in that speech something appertaining to the merits of the question bef ore them, tut so far as he could gather it was entirely confined to attacks up:;n those who occupied the front rsuks of the opposi tion benches. Ile, for one, shnual give his vote, when it Game to a vote, on the merits of the care, es he had no wish as t o who should occupy the Ministerial bunch. But he was called upon to say whether Governeset t had rightly issued the despatch. They had been accused 9f shirking the question of the proclamation, but he bad no doubt that when the proclamation came before them there would be many on that Bide of the house ready to uphold Lard Cunning ' s policy. The word cohfi sca ti oa h a d been whol ly misinterpreted, and any one who unlerstcod the state of the country, or who bad read General Sleaman's book, would know that the proclamation did not tench the real cultivation of the soil. The talmkdars and z :m -inders of Oude were a set of robbersand rascals who took possession of the land, and wanting to get a title to it, called themselves by those names. He would not go into the question of the annexation of OoL', though to be• lieved it was forced on us; but when it was annexed we found there two classes, the wo:kera and robbers—the bees and the wasps. Lord Canning had resolved to exter minate the wasps, and in doing so was stung by a hornet. (Hear.) When the papers which had been received that day were before them, they might better judge of that question, but in the publication of the deipatch they had committed, if not a dereliction cf duty, at least an indis cretion, which was sufficient to deprive them of the con fidence of the house. Mr. K. SEYMER said they had been talking of India but thinking of something else, viz., of the question whether the occupants of the Treasury benches could be sent over to the other side of the house. He was sorry the Indian question had been made a ground of patty at tack, but they would find the noble lord (Palmerston) too old to mend. (A laugh) What he was in Feb. he would be to the end of the chapter. The other side had been pressing legislation for India during the present a onion, and now these Government days had been occupied in this discussion; and it was very probable that would pre vent any legislation on the subject of India this se-sion a result which he should cot much regret. If there were any independent Liberal members in the house, he would *ask them if they in their hearts approved of the policy of confiscation. If not, let them place themselves in the Position of the Government and ask them what else they could honestly have done ? He knew that two red le t i r e d ; p (P ut al t t h ne ei r i i and Russell) thought that whenever made. he ads together a powerful party could be I t " the L zble lord (Palmerston) had lost the con.• flames of the regain it ? (Hear , hear. party, and what had he done to again they svoold not look If these noble lords came in k far beyond the peerage and the bow window at BroolcZeo. of what They would then , have a reinauguration policy y hat was called a spirited foreign policy, viz., the of t bi wor.!s and Email deeds. (A laugh.) When the n o* a in o ffi ce joined in censuring what they considered Pary unprovoked at tack on Canton, the noble lord (Palmearat out guilty as accomplices of the barbarisms made committ e d t om h u e ab m t by the Chinese in reprisal for that attack, an d he would now throw upon them the blame of the sacre of Cawnpore. (Hear, hear.) But the electors evens of Tiverton would not again be misled. By the time they went to the country it would no longer he a question of whether the despatch ought to have be en published, but it would be a question involving financial expenditure to an Extent of which bor. members had very little idea. (Hear.) The present Government came in not on their own motion, but in consequence of the want of attachment of the Liberal members to their own leader. (Hear.) They came into a legacy of difficulties. (Hear) They had arranged the diplomatic difficulty maintaining the alliance, which was firmer than ever ; they had settled the Cagliari question favourably ; they I had got over the financial difficulty in a budget—which had given the greatest amount of satisfaction, and they had pledged themselves to an India Bill which he thought injudicious, for he did not think any Govern ment would carry an India Bill this session. (Hear.) He did not think the Conservative party were blind to the signs of the times, or deaf to the voice of public opi nion —(hear, hear)—and he believed they were prepared to go steadily forward in a course of political and social reform. (Hear, hear.) He asked them, not for the sake of Government, but for their own characters as indepen dent members, to give them the opportunity. Sir A. ELTON said the despatch was bad in temper and in tone, and in many respects indiscreet, but if the general effect was just, it would be monstrous to throw the country into confusion because it was not polite. Honourable members talked of confiscation as if it was some pleasant process, like shampooing or some other Eastern luxury, but they would regard it very differently if their own lands were so taken from them. Legal gen tlemen often took great liberties with each other, and in this debate one had attributed dishonesty to &nether. He supposed lawyers were used to it. In reference to the mercy of Lord Canning, all the proclamation pro mised to those who submitted was "life and honour," and for the rest they were to throw themselves on the clemency of the Government. That was not very en couraging. As for politeness and courtesy, if a robber held a pistol to his head, be would knock his arm aside, perhaps with some violence. Would the right hon. member prosecute him for assaulting the robber ? If he dragged a drowning man from the water somewhat roughly, would he have an action against him fur tear ing his coat ? (Rear.) It was said that Lord Canning's feelings ought to be considered ; but they would be suffi ciently so by the amendment. Lord Ellenborough was humbled at the feet of Lord Canning, and politically ruined. Lord Canning and his friends, real or political, ought to be satisfied with that, and not to pursue the Government with a vindictiveness to which party ought to be a stranger. It was said the despatch would weaken the hands of Lord Canning, but these miserable party squabbles would weaken the character of this house and drag its honour and dignity in the dust. (Hear.) Go vernment had endeavoured to do what was right and just in a manner which was open to censure, bat as the thing itself was right, he should support them. He then quoted an article from the Friend of Indict to the effect that the proclamation would hold us up to the ridicule of the natives as weak and rapacious ; for we gave the lives we had no power to take, and took the lands they could no longer defend. (Hear, hear.) The retainers, he contended, would go with the chiefs and would not lay down their arms, so that the confiscation would in clude all the population. The vote of this house, it adverse to the Government, would create a panic amongst those who were ready to submit, and would not drive them to take up arms again. He could not understand how the despatch could encourage the rebels. It opened to doors of mercy. But to tell them that if they submitted they should retain their rights would not encourage them to hold our. He be lieved that hon. gentlemen on the Opposition benches did not think that they were going to stay there so long, and now showed an indecent haste to recross the house. Lord BURY said the hon. member for Dorset had asked what they hoped to gain by the motion. He could answer the question very distinctly. They hoped to turn hon. gentlemen opposite out of office. (Cheers and laughter.) In his opinion the despatch would paralyse the hands of the Governor General. It was ungenerous to censure the conduct of the Governor-General before they had received his explanations. Very likely the mail now due would bring a statement of the reasons that in duced the Governor-General to issue that proclamation. He thought that some of those who had spoken on the other side had tried to lead them astray on this ques tion. Lord Canning had nothing to do with the annexe tien of Oude. He found it a part of British India, and his duty was to maintain it as such. Deere was a great difference between the censure passed on Lord Auckland for his treaty with Oude and that contained in the de spatch in question. In his opinion the proclamation would do less harm in Media than the despatch. In that de spatch Lord Canning had been addressed as if he were a fool. (Hear.) Secving his country as he had done, Lord Canning had every right to expect that he would be addressed in different terms. Hos. members opposite were going to support the amendment of the hon. mem ber for Swansea, which recoenised Lord Canning's ser vices, although they had ohj acted to including Lord Canning's name in the vote of thanks lately given by Parliament. The noble lord the meciberfor King's Ly::n had said that this was a questioucf right against wrung. The noble lord did not d-aw his conclusion, bet the noble lord the member for the West Riding had very naturally asked if it was intended to give back Oude to its native King. The hon. baronet the member for Tam worth hail talked of a dissolution in case of a defeat of the govern ment, and coupling that with the statement of the noble lord the member for King's Lytle, be bad no doubt the cry of the government would be rieht against wrong. But if that was meant Lir anything more than clap-trale) they ought to give back Oode to the natives. (Hear.) Mr. GILPIN said he believed the noble lord the mem ber far Norwich (Lor.l Bury) had never spoken truer words than when he told them that what he and his friends wanted in bringing forward this motion was to turn out her Majesty's ministers. (Hear, hear.) But passing to a subject de lees personal character he should ob,erve that ha could not adopt the view taken of the question tiiea before the house by the supporters of the motion, when they contended that hon. members ought carefu ly to abAain from pronouncing any judgment on that proclamation, while they were to express a decided opinion with respect to the d ,seatele to which the pro clamation had given rise. They were told that they could n )t understand what was meant by the proclama tion. But the document appeared to be well understood in India ; and as far as he could judge it had ben gene rally condemned by the press of that country. The Hurkara stated that " the wisdom of the Mi.'3 , 111; had been questioned on the ground of its sweeping severity." According to the Calcutta Phcenix, " the temper of the people of India had never been so excited against acy former rulers as it was at present against the British ;" and the Friend of Indict contained the fell swing pas sage :—" That unhappy document makes every man in India cur declared enemy. The British government will be held up a; weak and rapacious—weak in offering to save lives which they could not take, and capacious in seizing estates to which they had no right." He ( \Jr. Gilpin) had hitherto been an admirer of Cm just and temperate policy pursued by Lord Can clog in liadia arid ha could only suppose that the noble lord bad been in duced to adopt that measure of confiscation under a pres sure put upon him by the English party in that country, which had before raised a howl of indignation against his display of wisdom and moderation. lie (Sir. Gilpin) believed that the present despatch would be ca.lcu'ated to strengthen hi; hands, and to enable him to return to the c - curse originally dictated by his own better judg ment. If an announcement of confiscatioa really meamt what it professed to mean, he (Mir. Gilpie) could not kelp regarding the proclamation as one of the most immoral public documents that had ever been written. But one of the arguments employed by the noble lord the mem ber for London in support of the motion, went very nearly to this—that we never could consider any of our public servants to have been in the wrong. (Hear.) No .v, fur his part, he should say that he believed that was a most dangerous doctrine. The hon. and learned gentleman fur Plymouth (Mr. Colliec) had stated that evening that on every question of f )reign policy the hoe. geutlemen the member for Birmingham (Ur. Bright) was always to be seen ranged ou the side of the enemies of England. But the hon. and learned gentleman might well congratulate liioaselF if he should find at the close of his career that he had done for his country a titee of the good which had teen done by the hon member for Bir wiegeern. Ho fejt persuaded that in voting against the motion ve should be voting in favour of the principles of justice and of humanity. He hal hear!. a good deal sail in the course of the discussion w.th regard to the fact that the contents of a certain letter fro a Lord Can ning had not been communicated by the right hon. gee tlercan the member for Northampton to the noble earl who had succeeded him in the office of the President of the Board of Control. It certainly seemed to him that too much had been mode of that c room twice. He be lieved that hon. gentlemen opposite had truth and jus tice on their side upon thatocciesien, and, in his opinion they would do well to take their sand on these prin ciples, and to ahe'ain from dwelling on mere personal considerations. He was lad so think that that was an attempt to raise the somewhat questionable benner of the noble lord the member for Tiverton. (Hear.) Ile ou ifhl calledtitiehh upon understood barn-r— -oieadduent tp e_ oc a t the arms of Bedford e ere t o be qu ar t ere d r nr — da el( rally yt u e r a orm) members m a bi n te d . r s (du) independent eesaerr.ved t members tuhta hte ti saidti title, were the y that charmer would ch arm i n va i n, unless they saw mor ' e o f benefit than h e cou ld see to the liberal cause from y contemplated ch ange of ministry. A short time ago there had be e n h e ld a large meeting of "independent members," and he had then 'upposed, itthis simplicity, that they were going gh bcve an independent party. But one of the eldest living politicians, had, with deeper ' first res e a f r e t r y e n a e wellt athat discrimination, said to s expectation, "You ' do not kn nl ow t i r ) a el for them do. They will fall into the very nch." by the late occupants of the Treasury ) The fact was that the trap was scaricnioellioyoawt a e i d d, i people,c th tn e i pitfall w t h t e h n e one es partnot coofvtehreedLoivbeerratloptahreveyheasdef new opposition whipper-in. (Hear, and laughter.) 119 should vote against that motion on its intiiasic merits ; and he should vo te a g ainst it still more heartily on acco unt of what he believed to be its real and not it s declared spiel's—the removal of the ministry, acid the transference to their places of a number of gentlemen who were at present in opposition. He was convinced that such a charge would not promote the interests of the great Liberal party throughout the country, and he should therefore offer an uncompromising resistance to a motion which was calculated as he Leleeved, to lead to that result. (Hear.) Mr. LABOUCHERE said he should be prepared to rest his vote on the able and comprehensive speech which had been deliv, red that evening by the noble lord the member for the West Riding (Lord Goderich) ; but ho did not wish to give a silent vote on that extremely im portant question. Hen. gentlemen had entered in the course cf that discussion into mere party allusions ; bu t he should have thought party considerations must sink into utter insignificance in presence of the great interests to which their attention was then directed. He had always n been a p t dey man, a n d he did not pretend to chweeakhyne ou_vi that t h anything knowledge,had pa fi o p e r n e e d e i I his e c ti judgment which . Butndghtif of laic own feelings, Le would give in support of that motion as conscientious a vote as he had ever given in his life. (Hear.) He did not believe that frequent changes of ministry were of advantage to this country ; he was of an entirely different opinion ; and he honestly declared that be should have heartily re joiced if the conduct of horn gentlemen opposite bad been so prudent as to have enabled the house to continue them for a considerable period their present tenure of office. (Hear, and a cry of oh.) But he would leave those personal considerations, and he would pass to an inquiry into the general merits of that question. He believed that her Majesty's Government were deeply censurable for the present state of Indian affairs. They bad exhibited to the world the unfortunate spectacle cf Indian Government at home differing in opinion upon a most important point of policy from the local govern ment in India. Had any one, he would ask, ever before seen members of an administration coming down to the house and reading extracts from newspapers, or detail ing scraps of conversation held with persons who bad lat:ly returned from India, for the purpose of casting discredit on the decision at which the Governor-General had arrived ? (Hear, hear) He did not deny the right of the Government to express their condemnation of any act of Lord Canning of which they might have disap proved ; but he said that they ought not to have dis ele,rged that duty in a tone needlessly bitter and offen sive. He had not heard any one attempt to justify the terms tmployed in the despatch towards Lord Canning, and he could not believe that that portion of the docu ment had been read to the Cabinet before it had been sent out to India. He said that was the first great error committed by her Majesty's Government. But the course they bad pursued had, further, led to the un happy result of destroying the harmony of opinion and unity of action which it was so desirable should prevail between them and the Court of Directors. The very day after the publication of the despatch the directors had met, and had determined, to their own infinite honour, that the mail which took out that document should also take out the expression of their approval of Lord Con ning's policy. Since the last occasion upon which they had met they bad heard with surprise that her Majesty's Government had stated their intention to support the proposition of the hon. member for Swansea. He (Mr. L.) was utterly at a loss to reconcile that determination upon any principle of consistency. He would not then enter into the question as to whether Lord Canning's proclamation was, in its terms, politic or impolitic. He, however, thought that the intention of the noble lord no member in that house could for a moment doubt. It was a policy of clemency rather than one of harshness and cruelty, as some honourable members had the hardi hood to attribute to him. The very circumstance of Lord Canning having no party connection with the present government ought, in his mind, to have made them much more delicate in doing anything that could in the deal degree disparage his authority as Governor-Ge neral. He (Mr. L.) could not acquit the government of having committed some grave errors is those most im 'portant and delicate transactions ; and, that being the case, be would certainly support the motion of his right hon. friend the member for the city of Oxford. Sir J. GRAHAM.— Sir, for some time past I have abstained from trespassing on your indulgence, for my shattered nerves and drooping spirits dissuaded me from taking part in angry contention, and I would gladly avoid expressing my opinion on this occasion it my sense of public duty had not persuaded me that I cannot avoid explaining, as far as I am able, the reasons which lead me to the conclusion at which I have arrived. If I may be permitted to refer for one moment to a subject so insignificant as myself, I wish to state that it is by the courtesy of hon. gentlemen that I occupy a seat on this (the Ministerial) side of the house, although I am no adherent of her Majesty's Government. By no en gagement, express or implied, am I their supporter. -On the contrary, my sympathies and opinions are with the Liberal party sitting on the opposite side of the house (hear, hear), and from a recent kind communication I have resumed those habits of friendly intercourse and confidential communication with my noble friend the member for the city of London which formerly existed bat rseen us. (" Speak up.") It is with pain, therefore that on the present occasion, after much deliberation, I have arrived at the conclusion that it is not possible for me to give my support to the:motion of my right hon. friend the member for Oxford. (Loud cheers.) It has not been my good fortune to be in office contempora neously with Lord Canning. I do not know him as in timately as many of those with whom I have long acted, but I am bound to say that, considering the circum stances of extraordinary difficulty in which he has been placed since his appointment to the Governor-Ge neralship of India, I have, up to the present time, re garded his conduct with unfeigned admiration. I think, as was well said by noble friend the member fur the city of London, that while others trembled, his firmness remained unshaken ; while the passions of almost all those around him were greatly excited, his calmness remained undisturbed, and he refused to shed ienocent blood. (dear, hear.) I think, therefore, the greatest praise is due to Lord Canning for his conduct up to the present moment. This motion is said to be actively promoted by most intimate f•iends of Lord Can • ning. Lord Canning was introduced into public life by my noble friend Lord Aberdeen. Lord Aberdeen is no f. irwea her or lukewarm friend. (Cheers.) He regards Lord Canning with parental affection ; and while he th ught that with reference to the present state of 'bi-, transaction anything was duo to the honour of I.,rsi Canning or to his administration of Indian effoirs, be was quite willing to concur in a vote censuring the conduct of the Executive Government. But from the tine that Lard Ellenborough withdrew from the Mini i.istration, declaring himself the author, as might well be presumed, of the despatch censuring the proclama tion, I am authorised to state, oa the part of my noble friend, that he felt that all that was doe to the honour of Lord Canning had been achieved—(cheer,) —all that ho thought nece sary for the vindication of Lord Can nicg's administration of affairs had been accomplished —(renewed cheere)—aud when pressed by a friend of Lord Canning—an old colleague and intimate friend of his own—to concur in the vote of censure in the other house, my noble friend L.rd Aberdeen positively refused, and, to use his plain and emphatic language, he declared that he seas not prepared to take part iu a faction fight (Cheers again renewed.) I wish, with permission, frankly to state that my first and strong impression on reading the proclamation woe, that it was an impolitic one. (dear, hear.) I am also bound to state that the publication of the despatch censuring that proclamation n the terms which were implied did appear t o me a harsh and u jeitifiable proceeding. (Hear, hear.) It does so happen than when it was announced that toe despatch commenting on the proclamation woul I be laid before the house, and when ie was also announced that that despatch censure] the policy indicated in that pro&arnation in every respect, Isail to my right hon. friend the member for the University of Oxf.oal, who was sitting near me, "I fear that that cics patch, CO reprellencli.,g the proclamation, will contain a censure upon the annexation of Oude ;" and I added, "if so, I think it aoald be most impolitic and inex pedient." (Cheers.) That paragraph which comments on the annexation is even less prudent than I had anticipated. I must say with great regret that it lI the paragraphs relating to that subject that I am most die posed to reprehend. Let me recall the recollection of the House to the circumstances that attended the publi cation of the despatch. I believe implici ly the state ment made in this House by my hen. friend the Secre t try of tlre Board rf Control. Tnat waternent was, that on the morning of the day on which the hon. member for Birmingham asked in his place a gat anion with re spect to the proclamation ho himself had wcenfidential communication with Lord Eilenborongh. The hon. Secretary to the Board of Control tail to Lord Ellen borough, "If I am rooked a question with regard to the proclamation which has appeared in the newspapers what am I to say ?' L;rd Ellenborou,h, without con sulting any of his colleagues, at once and oa the spot told the Secretary to the Beard of Control to promise that a cspv of the despatch commenting upon it shoul I be laid before the House. When that promise was made it was clear that the publication would take place the following morning. Toe hon. member for Mrmiogbara pressed for farther information. He asked at once what was the effect of the despatch, and the Chancellor of the Exchequer, racing itostantly and without prenle.litation to answer that question, said that the despatch die• approved the policy indicated in the proclemati n iu every sense. The sight hon. gentleman the Caacced of the Exchequer will excuse me for saying that I think that answer so hastily and uopremeditat;dly given was an indiscretion—(bear, bear) —but at the close of a very long public aed official life I cannot forget t'sat I have committed many indiscr,tions myself—(laughter)—and I am not prspared to visit wi h severe censure what I cannot believe, an] do not believe, was anything more than an indiscretion. (Cheers.) The right hen gentleman knew that on the following morning this despatch would be published, a,nd, ll Anxions at once to satisfy the house as to the con tents of that despatch, he anticipated the readi g of it by every menaber of the house in the course of a few hours by stating what was its nature. Tea', as it ap pears to ins, is the front of the offendir.g of a. .y other member of the Administration, excepting Lord Eden borough himself. Wel!, what took place in consequence of this ? Within three days of this publnatioo, for which Lord Ellenhorough was a'oee rosponsible—n o other member of the Cabinet having consented when he gave the order to the S.,cretary of the Board of C;ntrel to publish tee despatch—yielding to the force of public opinion in the two Houses of Parliament, which was very uneerivocally I xoressed, the noble lord, n o t, ashamed of what he had done, th:nking, on the c •ntrar, that he had honourably fulfided what his sense Of public duty prescribed, but ac xious to roheve his col leagues from all embarrassment, and tiziili,tg to take upon himself the whale responeiblity which redly at ttpgiNahraicea: a ijetre e noß d bt oyt it ) 0 concurrence,uwl g i m , til which These,t t ~lows etith en, account edaprr ree i w f the a enf n rdio a aTE act performed atohafe e it yth :er t.rchia: s w o it f h L U er t c. The hold to be atoned f or . ' by , the resignation of Lord d o; e c s : d t n u u s cd h e a l s holly sate fi d b:7:l l atui t ie hin c k e o. t:e the henour of Lord Canning Di rectors to which na;yr,siguAton, e.)upwa with the vote cc ad right Court A h n o d pjna. a " s flo r if e e l ri a "d t o e o s h l s o t j u h (s e tl A Dai - : ministration, I I)9'.ie.v e it woul 1 be pushing the () h i t r d e r r aP:ounwps:lb late power fir h r e ridiculous ul o t b d i o n ct t ri t h o e an o: mtr . c e o rz al u h s e to Ca - tend it to their ex. rtion from a colleague without their cognizance or cnonaseetndtonae. ' b dy n a ar ce.et of which act that c Teaguss h as quitte'd office. (Cher I no w come, Sir, with your permission, ghoul; to examine the substance c f the proclamation. And the caline.-t an I int st dispassionate coneideration I have been able to give this matter has led-me to the conclusion that my first impression was right—viz., that the sub stance of this proclamation is impolitic. (Hear, hear.) I beg the house to remember the circumstances under which the proclamation was considered in the early part of April by her Majesty's present advisers. The procla mation is decidedly at variance with an instruction sent out by the Cabinet on the 24th March with respect to the policy to be pursued on the capture of Lucknow. The passage has been read before, but still it seems to me so important that if it is not wearying the house I shall quote it again. (Hear, hear.) Here, then, are the terms of the instruction given to Lord Canning by the Cabinet at the date I have named To us it appears that whenever open resistance shall have ceased it would be prudent in awarding punishment rather to follow the practice which prevails after the con quest of a country which has defended itself to the last by desperate war, than that which may perhaps be lawfully adopted after the suppression of mutiny and rebellion—such acts always being exempted from forgiveness or mitigation of punishment as have exceeded the license of legitimate hostilities." The despatch next recommends a general disarmament and as far as possible a general amnesty, and then goes on to declare that— " In every amnestied district the ordinary administration of the law should as soon as possible be restored." Now, try the proclamation as the Cabinet tried it early in April, by the terms of that instruction, and I think you will see that it is diametrically opposed to the spirit of that instruction. (Cheers.) Arriving thus unexpectedly, and violating an instruction already given by her Majesty's Ministers, you must also bear in mind what were the peeuliar circumstances attending this proclamation. No covering letter giving any official explanation of it ; all private communications with reference to it, from no fault of Lord Canning—who was unaware of the ehange of Ministry—addressed to their political opponents, and from some accident or misconception, on which I should be most sorry to dwell, no portion of those representations to the late Government bearing upon the subject were made known to her Majesty'e present advisers. Remember, likewise, that the mitigating passage in the proclamation, which has been advisedly added in consequence of the re presentations made to Lord Canning in India, was unknown to the Cabinet when their despatch was written. (Hear.) Recollect, moreover, that the Cabinet consented to that despatch being transmitted in a particular form which exists only with respect to despatches sent to India—viz.. through the Secret Committee of the Court of Directors. They believed that secrecy would be religiously - observed ; and with all my objections to the passages relating to Oude, with which I shall deal presently, I am not of opi nion that, under the seal of secrecy, any of the topics touched upon in that despatch as a warning to the Governor- General in regard to the danger of the proclamation were improperly introduced. (Hear.) But is this the whole? By no means. At the same time that the proclamation reached the Government information of a very painful— at all events of a very anxious kind—came to hand. It is vain to dissemble it; a very serious difference has arisen between the civil and military authorities in India. (Hear.) It is quite plain that the entire scheme of the military campaign against the judgment of the Com mander-in-Chief, by the over-ruling authority of the Governor-General, has no`, only been changed, but in verted. (Hear.) After that most splendid operation which has warmed the heart and gratified the feelings of every Englishman, when by a bold advance with a handful of men Sir Colin Campbell at infinite risk relieved the belea guered garrison of Lucknow, the Commander-in-Chief's own plan was not then to march upon the capital of Oude, , but, leaving that capital as the centre open at a future period to be attacked by his united force, rather to deal first with the insurrection in the extremities, to tread out the mutiny at its furthermost points, and afterwards to return to Lucknow with its concentrated strength. (Hear.) The Governor-General, however, from the purest motives, but from political reasons, interfered with the strategy of the Commander-in Chief, and called upon him instantly to at tack Lucknow, and thus to depart from his preconcerted movements. Now, it is neces ary to be just. This intelli gence reached the Cabinet simultaneously with the procla- . illation. There is a division between the civil and military authorities; the Governor-Ganeral, acting on his own re sponsibility, with a high hand directs the military opera tions; and he issues this proclamation, or avows his inten tion to issue it. We know already—to-morrow we shall know more accurately—upon the official information of the Secretary of the Board of Control, that Sir James Outran protested strongly asaiust this proclamation. (Cheers.) Who is Sir James Outran ? Ile was the civil commis sioner of Oade in 15.5) under Lord Dalhousie. He had the most intimate kilo sledge at that period of the state of feeling in that country, as well as of its socisl condition. More than that, topping his civil capacity, during a later period when the military difficulties became great, he toted as second in command, and was himself exposed to all the dangers of that groat centre of the revolt. He could, there fore, best appreciate what were the sentiments of the tended proprietors of Oude—he bust understood by experience what had been their conduct . Yet knowing them well, bath by his earlier civil and later military experience, ho in the strongest and aeost decided manner objected to this pro clamation, and pressed upon the Governor-General the po licy of abandoning it. (Cheers.) Ss much for the view taken by Sir J. Outa am. Well, who is the next highest military authority ? Sir John Lawrence. (Hear.) We have all heard from the Secretary of State for the Colonies, and are all aware that Sir J. Lawrence prersed for a discriminating amnesty indeed, and also objected to this procianaation. (Cheers.) The statements I now make rest upon official authority. I don't like to mention my own sources of information, but I have reason to knew that General Mans field, the chief of Sir Colin Campbell's Staff, has likewise expressed in strong terms his doubts with respect to the policy of this proclamation. (Cheers.) We have reason, also, to believe—it has indeed been uuecittivoellly stated by the First Lord of the Admiralty—that General Franks, who has just returned fr=sh from most gallant and distinguished military service rendered at Lucknow, declares his indivi dual opinion that this proclamation is an unfortunate step. (Cheers.) So much, then, for the conflict of autho rity as to the expediency of the proclamation we are now discussing ; so much as to the weight of evidence that would lead us to pause before we give an opinion directly or indirectly sanctioning this proclamation and condemn ing the caution of the Government in taking measures with reference to its revision and limitation. Now, what is the correct interpretation of this proclamation? Wo have heard a groat deal of argument meant to prove that confiscation does not mean confiscation—(!rear, hp's) —that proprietary rights in the soil of Indian pro vincesdees Lot imply ownership of the land. (Hear, hear.) N i ow, n England we underetaud English, in India all men may not ; but, although those who issued the proclamation might not exactly have understood the exact purport of its terms, what is most important for us to consider is, how will the people who road it understand it ? (Hear, hear.) The hon, member for Northampton has read to us extracts from the Indian newspapers, bat really there is no newspaper which has arrived from Innis by the last mail which does not give to the term " proprietary rights" as broad a construction as has been given to is by any gen tleman who has a dressed this house. (Hear.) Now, sir, what is the object of this proclamation? (Hear.) It is supposed by sonic persona to be a gre :stroke of p and it certainly has the _characteristic of novelty. (!tear, hear.) It is, I must say, an tw course of proceeding. No doubt, if what was sought to be effected could be offeeted without danger, it would be the interest of every conqueror to effect it. Anl what was that? Why, it was simply to convert the tenure of land in a conquered province from tenancy for lire, or for a longer period, at a quit rent, to tenancy at will. (Hear, hear.) Doubtless, if that could be effected without risk it would be a great advantage to any conqueror, but from the earliest period of history, wi ther in Europe or in has any com - pi:Lr )r att-em pted to per forsa so difficult and dangerous an operation. (Hear, hear.) Neither Aurungz3be, Tamerlane, nor Nadir Shah ever attempted sueli a proceeding. (11-ar, hear.) The sight hen. gentleman the member for Radnor has described the Britiell rule in India from 1761 to 1781 as a period of rapacity so -rcely ever keown, and yet during that period no British ccriquterar in India ever attempted an operation of this nature. (Hear, hear.) Now, sir, I cannot help thinkieg that, is, consequence of difference of opinion be tween the civil and military authorities is India, Lord Canning in issuing this proclamation has yielded his better judgment to the influence of certain civilians who surround bi.n. ([leer, hear ) As regards the value of the opinions of civilians, I will read to the house the opinion of a great militery authority W 11133 frien Iship I hist the happiness to enjoy, I mean Sir John Malcelm. Sir John Maleoln soya ," Listen not to general reaconers, or, what we term hero Sircarees. They are always right on paper, and always wrong in action. . . There is not a human being (certainly no Nab eh or Maharajah) whom I half dread so so much as an able Calcutta civilian, whose travels are limited to two or three hundred miles, with a hookah in his mouth, some geed but abstract maxims in his head, the Regulations in his right hand, the Company's charter in his left, and a quire of wire-wore foolscap before him." (Loud laughter.) Now, that was the opinion which Sir J. Malceltn wrote to a Governor-General of India, warning him as to the value to be attached to the advice of civilians on matters of this description. (Hoar, hear.) What, too, was the opinion of Lord Wellesley, one of the best and boldest Governors-General who ever wielded power in India ? Was he of opinion that annexing a province was to be followed by cerifiscation of private rights? (Hear.) What was the advice which the Duke of Wellington gave? He slid, if you conquer a province deal lightly with individnals, but grind the State—that is to say, respect the rights of in tiviluels, but deal as harshly as you may think expe.tient with the sovereign power. What did the great commander who conquered ' Scinie? He, following the a lvice of his great chief, master, and instructor, dealt lightly with in lividuals, but he ground the Arneere. Sir W. Napier has very recently placed on record the actual measures which were adopted by his brother, and to describes the course purs ued b y that dist nsnished mac in these words : " He proclaimed at once that all rights and possessions would be safe from confiscation. His expression was that 'the conquest of a country was suMcient convulsioa for any people to endure, without adding thereto abrupt in novations on their social habits.' He even confirmed all the Government servants in their employments. The only exception he made was the Lugharee chief, and that by an especial crier of. Lord Ellenherough, on the rround of his having treacherously assailed the Residency. Even this man, because he only acted under the orders of his Sovr reign, Sir Charles afterwards restored. No doubt he threatened to confiscate the estates of one or two other chiefs who continued hostilities after the war was virtually over; but this was simply as a war measure to in lure them to surrender. "Thus," went on Sir W. Napier to say, that " Sir Charles Napier's policy was both vtally and literally the reverse of Lord Canning s, and founded upon an essentially different state of affair?. The one con fiscated tto whole property of the country with hut seven Tir eight mentioned exceptions; the other confirmed all men in their possessions, with ono or two exceptions for cspeeial crimes." (Hear, hear.) The doctrine of confiscation is the most da.ngeroui which any conqueror can adopt. Villemain tells us that Napoleon on his return ftom Elba in the first flush of anger determined to issue a proCamation confis cating the property of Talleyrand, Angereau, and - about 15 other persons, but his honest and faithful friend and follower Bertrand, wile true in adversity as in prosperity, followed his great master to St. Helene, and shared his captivity with him, refused to countersign the ordinance. He said to Napoleon that the man who would advise the Emperor to begin a system of confiscation was his most cruel enemy. Labe:toyer° also gave the Emperor similar advice. In the middle ages this doctrine of confiscation was often had recourse to, and, although I cannot pre tend to give the words thernselvee,l must remind the house of the opinion that was expressed by one of the wisest of mankind, at the same time begging it to remember that human feelings and human passions are the same in India that they are in Europe. (Hear, hear.) That philosopher said that it is not safe to confiscate a man's property un less you era also prepared to deprive him of his life. (Hear, hear.) Ho said that a son could bier with great com placency the death of his father, while the loss of his in heritance might drive him to despair. Now, that is a principal which history has taught us, and I cannot EV EN FN G, MAY __2l, 1868. e -- but think that under circumstances like the present .of the Governor-General you must recall him, if you ap- which ought for the future to be pursued in the adminis it is a most dangerous precedent to depart from it. I have provo his policy you must cordially sustain him ; if you tretion of the affairs of our Indian empire. mentioned Sainde. What was the a ct of L or d Ell en . partially disapprove yo u must so expresshhat disapproval Sir D. NORREYS disapproved as strongly as the hoee borough himself with regard to Cy ra no / . e Th a t was a case as el either t o s h a k e hi s con fid ence i n you nor paralyse his gentleman who had just spoken the proclamation of Lord in which there was an undoubted breach of treaty and of powers in India, (Cheers.) Canning, while he was equally disposed to find fanit with compact on the part of the ruler. Lord Ellenborough made Sir , 3 - ORA-HA-H — Like my right hon. friend lam of the tone of the despatch which had been written in reply. war upon hi m , gained a signal victory over hat has b him, but the Peel school, and feel all the fo rc e of the recommen d s - He did not lik e t o condemn Lord Canning without further never di s t ur b e d the title to the land and ween tion of three courses. (Leughter.), I cannot say, however, information, and he believed that th e h ouse , if it Wished 1 the consequence? Notwithstanding that the army of that in the present case the choice lies b e t ween th ree , or to do justice, would postpone the debate for a month or. Gwalior has been unfaithful the ruler and the population even two courses. It is not necessary either to recall the six weeks. (Laughter, and criesof" This day six months.") of that state h a ve b een our - sure an d f as t friends. (Hear) Governor•Osneral or to acquiesce in his policy. If th e He wouid raise the question to-morrow on the motion for Again, what was the policy of Lord Hardinge in the Pun- Governor-General is to be his own master what becomes of the adjournment of the house g the responsibility of th e Q aeer e e mi n i s t ers e (Cheer:`.) Al. Mr. CARD WELL understood•the question of the him. jaub He acted harshly and severely with the governing power unsea t e d, and discrowned the sovereign, but re' though in a great public emergency they may think that member (Mr. Dunlop) to be whether, if th e m o ti on which Lord Canning isbetter fitted than any oth e r p er son — an d i n he had the honour to introduce were carried, he would spected the rights of property ; and the salutary . effect of that has been that even in this extremity the Punjaubj has that opinion I for one fully concur with them, to discharge have any objection to support a separate resolution the not been the seat of popular insurrection. In Cashmere the. duties of Governor-General, yet exercising the suprem e purport of which was to express the cordial hope that a Lord Hardinge's policy was the same. There he acted authority, they are entitlechto reprehend the policy even of Policy would be adopted towards India. He should en that great proconsul, if they beli e v e it to b e in c o n si s te n t tirely agree in suc h a reso l u ti on. (" Oh !" and ironica l with more gentleness towards the sovereign and more for. bearance towards the inhabitants. The confidence which with the habits and welfare of those to whom it relates cheers.) Lord Flardinge placed in the ruler of Cashmere, of whom and dangerous to the safety of the British empire in India.- Mr. M. GIBSON wished to know whether he rightly some doubts were entertained at the time, was not mis- (Cheers.) Now, sir, I gladly come to the close of the ob- understood that some motion condemning the proclamation placed; on this trying occasion his fidelity has stood the servations which I have unwillingly addressed to you. The was to be tagged on to the motion of the right hon. gentle test. (Hear.) You have here Indian experience, .you have general conclusion at which I have arrived may be briefly man. He was afraid that with so many amendments and . which it could not easily extricate itself. (Cheers.) general maxims and general practice, a ll converging to the stated. I think the proclamation is substantially wrong, proposals the house would get into some dilemma from same point, all condemnatory of the policy of this prods- I think the despatch is substantially right. (Cheers.) The mation. (Cheers.) Some hon. members have attempted error of the proclamation is in its essence ; the error of Mr. S. HERBERT thought the right hon. gentleman had to make apoint of the proclamation of Lord Dalhousie with the despatch is in its form and expression. (Renewed misunderstood the course proposed to be taken. Ha bad regard to Oude, issued in'lBs6. There is, indeed, in that cheering.) Upon a former occasion the right hon. gentle- risen several times in the hope of catching the Speaker's proclamation a mention of confiscation, but it was well man the member for Radnor said that the neglect of the eye, but should not now inflict upon the house his reasons put by the hon. baronet the member for Tam worth (Sir R. Government with respect to the public a ti on o f th e d o - for the course he should p ursue. B et according to his view Peel) and it has been repeated this evening by the hon. spatch almost amounted to design. Was ever a Govern there was nothing inco m p a tibl e i n the resolution of t h e member for Northampton (Mr. Gilpin) that there is the merit diamissed yet f or neg l ec t a l mos t amoun ti ng t o d es i gn ? right hen. gentleman (Mr. C ar d we ll) an d t h at of the h on . member (Mr. Dunlop). There was a precedent for the broadest distinction between Lord Dalhousie's proclanaa- (Cheers.) A change of Government being sought, lam bound to ask those who naturally wire to succeed to the tion in 1856 and that of Lord Canning's of 18 8. (Hear.)course proposed, because the Court of Directors, who bad Lord Dalhousie's proclamation in 1856 was prospective and present Ministers, what is their policy ? (Cheers.) Are written a despatch to. Lord Canning, giving their advice menacing, and its consequences might be avoided. Lord they for the proclamation, or are they for the despatch ? that a policy of clemency should be pursued, had passed a Canning's proclamation is retrospective and implies punish- (Continued cheering.) In other words, are they for con- vote of confidence in Lord Canning, and had expressed meat. Bat that is not all. Lord Dalhousie's pr o cla - &cation, or are they for amn es ty— amnes ty in the sense their conviction that the proclamation b ore no thi ng w hi c h matron was directed against individuals on pr oof of of Sir John Lawrence I (He a r, h ear .) Th e b a t t l e s till militated against the adoption of a poli c y o f c l emency. guilt. (Hear, hear, and cheers.) The proclamation of rages in India; that sea of fire is unquenched. Who was ' Mr. ROUPELL said the house had commenced this Lord Canning denounces in the first instance the sentence the person placed as permanent Secretary at the B oar d o f debate with a selemn exhortatio n w hi c h a l mos t l ea d th e next in point of severity to death, without proof, against a Control by her Majesty's late advisers ? Sir George Clerk. character of a funeral dirge. (A. laugh and cheers.) lie whole people - . (Loud cheers.) I must say there is one What doter Sir Gorge Clerk say upon thi s su bj ec t ? H e feared, however, that som e thi ng lik e a sense o f th e l t idie passage in the despatch with which I entirely agree ; its says that the ship cannot be righted unless the proclama- crows was stealing over their minds. (A laugh, and Hear. principle appears to me to be sound. This proclamation is tion is thrown overboard. (Cheers.) He goes furth er , f or hear.) He saw no reason w hy th e no bl e l or d (P a l mers t on ) based on the inverse of the correct principle. (Hear , hear.) he says that you cannot permanently hold Indi a if th e and the right hon. gentlem an (M r . C ar d we ll) s h ou ld no t f e l- It makes that the general rule which ought to be the ex- principle of confiscation be established by the British Go- low the example of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and caption eit makes that the general rule whch ought to be vernmen t. (H ear , h ear .) S o , i n th e very words of the adopt the amendment of th e h on . mem b er (M r. Dill wyn ). the exception; it makes that the exception which ought to despatch which is so much blamed, I say that we shall (A 'angle.) It contained all that the . friends of Lord Cane be the general rule. (Cheers.) It throws the onus of the not be able to hold India if the entire popul a ti on , on ac - ning could desire. ('• No 1") H e th oug ht th a t th e ma proof of innocence upon the entire people,- the penalty if coun t o f th e p r i nc ipl e o f con fi sca ti on; thi n k th ey are su b - jority of they fail in that proof being the forfeiture of their lands. jaded to British dominion at the expense of legitimate " Hear.) house were of th a t o pi n i on . ("N o, no 1" an d d ) He spoke without authority, but he thought The revere ought to ba the principle, everything should be rights. (Cheers.) Adopting, that view, I have to con- that the greater number of the independent Liberals were presumed in favour of innocence until guilt is proved. eider what is the real object of the present motion. (Hear, of this opinion. (" No !" and "Hear.") This amendment Now, these are great principles, English principles—(hear, h oar .) I h ave no f r i en d i n wh ose h onour or wor d I t rus t appeared to offer an easy mode of escapi ng f rom -th e dint hear; —universal principles, which are to be maintained more implicitly than Ido in the honour and word of the culty of a ludicrous position. wherever the British rule prevails. -In my humble bldg. right hon. member for Radnor ; and he has told us that Lord PALMERSTON—Perhaps the Chancellor of the meat they can never be diverged from without imminent he does not believe that this motion has been brought for- Exchequer will tell us whether the papers on India will be risk. (Hear, hear.) It is impossible to speak in too high ward with any party object whatever. (Laughter.) We laid on the table before the house adjourns to-night. r terms of the late Sir H. Lawrence. Gallant as were his a ll k now th a t men congre ga t e an d ma k e t rea ti es o f f r i en dl y understand they were moved f or i n th e L or d s, and will b e exploits as a soldier, noble as was his death, so worthy of an d o ff ens i ve a lli ance , d e libe ra t e on p l ans o f a tt ac k , an d presented to that house. his life, as a judge of what was politically expedient with pro b a bly on th e division of the s p o il ; an d t o t e ll me th a t The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—I h ave th e reference to the people of India no man ever excelled him. there is no party object in this motion is to draw on my papers here. (Hear, hear.) By an odd coincidence, in the very month of small stock of credulity, and make me sceptical and an un- The debate was then adjourned. April, in which the Government were considering this pro- b e li ever . (Laughter.) Three month s h ave h ar dl y passe d b y BISHOPS' TRUSTS SUBSTITUTION (N o . 2.) BILL. clamation, the Edinburgh Review, an organ which cannot since by a deliberate vote of this house we expelled the late " Leave was given to Mr. Briscoe to bring in a bill to be objected to on the opposite benches, contained, in a re- Governmen t f ro m power ; a n d are we prepared to rein- enable the bishop of o n e di ocese t o su b st i tute t h e bi s h op o f view of " Sir W. Sleeman's Travels in Oade," ,the follow- state them upon such a motion as the present, wherein another as a trustee in certain trusts. The bill was read* ing passaged— the principle which has been asserted by her Majesty'. third time. "Sir Henry Lawrence was despatched to Lucknow to advisers is not explicitly or openly condemned ? Can Ibe LORD CA.NNINGT4 PROCLAMATION. take the place of Mr. C. Jackson. He was the man of all a party to any such vote, entertaining the opinion I have The CHANCELLOR, of the EXCHEQUER laid upon others who would have done most good in the province if ex p resse d in this house ? I cannot do it. All m y p ar t y the table papers relati ve t o th e p r oc l ama ti on f or t h e rume n* he had been sent there at the commencement of our admi- w i s h es s till linger about --(Cries of C 0 Oh of Oude, wtni c h were or d ered t o b e pr i nted. Oh l' from th e nistrativa career." Opposition.) Au hon. gentleman on the front Opposition The house adjourned at half-past 12 o'clock. The article is now speaking of the action under Lord Dal- bench sneers at this. I say at once that whatever others .. housie's proclamation in 1855, that to which I leave already m a y be lam no candidate for power. (Cheers.) I user adverted, and which fell far short of, which was even oppo- cise a most dispassionate and disinterested judgment, and site in principle to that of Lord Canning : let those who sneer on that bench make the same declere. "He was a man of generous sympathies and of an en- Mon. (Loud and repeated cheers.) I never gave a, vote larged toleration, which would not suffer him to scan too with more pain or regret in my life. (Oh, oh 1 ) I neve r nicely or to visit too severely the offences of those who were discharged a public dater with a more clear consc i ence. the victims, rather than the agents, of a vicious state of (Cheers.) I would gladly have voted for the previous society. He was specially averse to an over-critical invea- question, and I gladly an-t cordially adopt the amendment tigation into existing rights, which, though acquired some- of the hon. membei for Swansea. If that, however, be times by fraud, sometimes by oppression, were still only in rejected, I shall reluctantly, yet unhesitatingly, give my accordance with the custom of the country, and, indotd vote against the motion of my right hen. friend the mem . often a necessary consequence of the continued misgovern- bar for Oxford. {Loud cheers.) ment of the native rulers. We do not profess to know the Sir e. BETHELL should deeply regret if there were precise nature of the settlement operations which were in many membeis in the house who thought that if otheis terrupted by the progress of the mutiny in Oude ; but we have reason to believe that Sir H. Lawrence thought that spoke on this subject they did so for the purpose of joining some of the groat landowners had been treated with an in- in a cabal or party movement. (Oh, oh ; and hear, hear.) expedient harshness." Those who cheered such a sentiment were the most likely That is under the former proclamation,' when forfeiture to fall under the imputation. (Oh, oh.) Of all complaints, was not the rule but the exception. Sir H. Lawrence demurred to the extent to which the exception was car this one of the Government, namely, that this was a mos t ried :-- factious motion, was the most ridiculous. (Oh, oh, and "Oa the score of practical expediency and of abstract laughter.) If the conduct of the present administration justice it was desirable that at the outset of the British ad- were reviewed, it would be seen that no Government had niinistration in Oude a more conciliatory policy should have been adopted towards them." ever, in so short a time, committed so many blund ers , or Therefore, in addition to the authority of Sir J. Outram, been treated with such forbearance. (Derr-ive cheers, end in addition to the authority of Sir J. Lawrence, in addi- cries of question.) Why how many times had the noble tion to the authority of Gee. Mansfield, I claim, with re- lord the member for London drawn them out of the mire. ference.to the principle of this proclamation, the very (Oh, oh, and i ron i cal c h eers ?) The same hand which die highest authcrity —the authority of Sir Henry Lawrence. dated the India bill of the Government was visible in the (Hear, hear.) Now, sir, I cannot fail nso to observe—and it has not been much dwelt upon by the house—that, so despatch. (Oh, oh.) The Opposition could have tripped far from the covering letter of Mr. Elmonstone in any de- up the Government for their blunder in the India Bill, gree relieving the anxiety of the Government with regard but the noble lord, the member for. London, had come to to this proclamation, I think that, properly weighed and. their rescue. (Ole, oh.) . The climax of the Government considered, it must have greatly aggravated their appre absurdity was reacted in the funeral oration of th e appre hensions. ("leer, hear.) That letter, in the dirt place, diwainctly points out that this proclamation is addressed, Chancellor of the Exchequer over, his defunct measure. not to the few, but to the many—(hear, hear)—to the in- (Oh, oh.) While the Government were simply r idi cu l ous, habitants of dude at large; and there is in it a passage the Opposition allowed them to remain in office. Now, which has not been read, ane which indicates extreme se- however ' a question had arisen, by which our I n di an Go verity, coupled with what appears to me very great impo- vernment was imperilled. What was the gravamen of the hey. The 16th paragraph says : charge against the Government? Why, that during a ' The foregoing remarks a pply t o th e th oo ed a rs and fearful rebellion in one of the dependencies of tho Crown, chiefs of the province. As regards their followers who may a rebuke had been published on a great public offi cer , an d make submission with their], these from their numbers published, too, to the persons engaged in the rebellion. must of necessity be dismissed to their homes." That was in fact casting doubt on the authority of the Intimati n g that, if possible, there would have been a wish Crown. Its firmer days such a course would have ron to keep them prisoner's. (Hear) dared the Minister liable to an impeachment. This was h B u t before this is done their names and places of resi- a matter irewhich the Government had exhibited to th e deuce should be registered, and they should receive a warn- people of India the Queen as a usurper. Why, under such ing that any disturbance of the peace or resistance to an- circumstances cent' anybody foresee anything bat conti thority which may occur in their neighbourhood will be nual war in Oude? The doctrines of clemency preached visited nut upon the individual offenders alone, hut by by the Government were mere hypocrisy. Of course the heavy fines upon the villages." Government never meant to act up to the doctrines cnun- I must say that I consider that dangerous in the extreme. elated in the despatch. The right hon. baronet who had I think our Irish experience might have taught us not only just sat down had said that if the despatch had been the that it is unjust, but that when applied to a great nation act of the whole Government he would have been prepared it is maddening. There is also a threat that there shall be to visit the act with ceesure. But the right hon, baronet no reinstatement in their lands tinder specided circum- seemed to forget that the responsibility of the despatch had stances. Now, the use of the term " reinstatement in their been assumed by the Government. The despatch was lands" is a direct assumption not only that confiscation clearly considered by the whole Government before it was has taken place, but is in force, and shall remain the rule, sen t out. The hon. and learned gentleman then proceed e d reinstatement being the exception. (Hear.) Then there at very considerable length to read the various statements is the mitigating clause which has been inserted in cense- which from time to time have been mule in both Houses quence of Sir J. Oatran's reprehension of the paragraph of Parliament with respect to the despatch of Lord Ellen in its original form. A word is used in that clause which b oro ugh, with the view of showing that by the statem en t s proves the justice of what I have just stated with regard o f th e members of the Government themselves the despat c h to ree itution. I t says, • was the work and was issued on the responsibility of the "To those among them who shall be promptly come for" whole Cabinet. He submitted that the publication of this ward and give to the Chief Commissioner their support in despatch was the deliberate and well considered act the restoration of peace and order the indulgence will be of the entire Government. Under those circumstances, large, and the Governor-General will be ready to view if the resignation of Lord Ellenborough was inevi liberally the claims which they may thus acquire to a rea- table, what about the retention of office by tho o who titution of their former rights." were his accomplices in the act which had rend ere d hi s This clearly shows that even after the (trivial harshness of resignation necessary? Well, that was the fi rs t coun t the proclamation had been mitigated the Governor-General in the indictment against her Majesty's Government. The regarded the confiscation as general and complete, andonlY next point was that, when the despatch was sent out, the Government were in ignorance as to whether the procla hold out to thos whoau prove themselves tho friends of order the res titu o f th e i r l an d s . (H ea r, hear.) My mation bad been issued or not. In that state of things the noble ideal the member for the city of London, in the despatch was a most precipitate step. In the next place, 'he said it was in very intemperate language ; in the next forcible speech which he addressed to us on a former even ing, assumed that these telooklars had made war upon our place, it was injurious to the public service, and in the soldiers, had killed many of our fellow subjects — (hear)— fourth place it was an i n j us ti ce t o a great pu b lic servant. he i behaved cruelly to the British. (Hear.) I understood The Solieitor-General said that Oud e ought to be tr ea t e d him to say that they had helped to starve our garrison and as a conquere d prov i nce, but if re •rd Cennino had so had made war in a reckless manner. The statement of S r treated it he would have ignored the auraexation"and have James Outram positively negatives that assumption. The repudiated the authority of his sovereign. The hon. and Secretary of the Board of 'Control informed us, on his learned gentleman then wont on to argue that the procla official responsibility, that Sir J. Outram pointed out to mation was only intended to apply to the &minders and the Governor-General that not only had no murder been talookdars, and to no others. The object of the procletna committed in Oude, but that there the chiefs had save d tion was not i to take away the lands of the people, but to all the Europeans who had Salton into their hands, and induce them to come and give their allegiance to the Queen. sent them under eacor t into the Erh ish territories. (nieeeersl i That, he argued, was a policy of clemency. It had been To-morrow we shall see in official (despatches w h a t Si r J . i said that Lord Canning had not been recoiled. He had Otitram says upon this subject, but in the meantime I am at liberty to presume that the statement made by th e Se" not at any time been recalled, in fact ; but what could be a more effectual recall than a despatch casting ridicule and cretary to the Beard of Control, on his responsibility as a servant tithe Crown, is cerrece. (Hear, h ear ,) If that obloquy on a public servant. That was the charge which statement is correct, i 4 not only negatives all the presump- was brought against the Government, and he could not . tions.seainst the talookders, but proves their innocence. see how anybody cou'd come to any other conclusion with regard to the act of the G merriment than it would be (dear, hear.) I pass gladly from the proclamation to the rodnetive of the greatest mischief in India. (Hear.) He, desratch. I have already said that lam not. prepared to approve the language of that despatch. (Hear, hear.) Per- . therefore, asked who had done most for the cause of haps I may be pertnittse to remind some of my classical humanity, and begged of them to consider with what a case they would go to the huetinge if this motion were negatived. friends of what is said by a great master of rhetoric— The country would see it was the poverty of 'the Govern- Quintilian—in discussing the relative merits of the Attic ment and not their will that induced them to grant mea and Asiatic style of composition. H e says t h at the Attic - sures of a liberal character. He taunted the present is clear, terse, simple, and forcible ; and describes what Government with giving up their principles in order to he calls the Asia gene as " tum , idenihnctahlet, vaniore, di- keep office. The hon. member for Birmingham had cendi gloria inAtta." He then goes on to lay down a spoken of the blandishments that had been hold out to ma xim which from the time of Demosthenes to the time of Liberal members, and reminded the house that the alr. Fox has remained true, an d w hi c h w ill r ema in true, stoutest Liberals had before now given way to such, and lam satisfied, to the end—Attice dicee'e eat o ptime dicers. he cautioned the hon. mewl) cr for Birmin g h am aga i nst (Hear.) But we are not here as a sc h oo l o f r h etor i c i ans an d them, and advised him to steel himself against such critics. (Cheers.) We are hero as statesmen, considering .lest they might ride off the asperities and angles of the do what is best for the interests of a great empire, and it is no inocratie principles he espoused. (Hear, ant laughter ) part of our duty to weigh nicely the exact terms used to. The house was bound by every feeling of national honour convey an idea which in itself is sound. (Cheers.) I cannot to say to men who had been guilty of such conduct that agree with all the terms of the despatch, but lam bound to they were not worthy of the confidence of the country. smy that the substance of the despatch, as dealing with the Sir E. B. LYTTON moved the adjournment of the substance of the proelamatien, is sound and defensible. debate. (Cheers.) Ido not think ther e is a s i ng l e t o pi c men ti one d • Lord J. RUS in the despatch which, u n d er th e seahof secrecy, ought not SELL—I stated, sir, early in this debate to have - been communicated to the Governor-General. I the reasons why I felt it to be my duty to support the do not except even the matter of Oude. (Hoar, hear) It motion of my right hon. friend the member for Oxford, is vain to dissemble it—there is a flaw in oar title to that and I have now no right, nor indeed have I the slightest king-lore. (Cheers) I r gret the exposure, but that ex- inclination to resume my argument upon the question. I , posure has taken place, and for it the Government are am, moreover, perfectly willing to admit that 'the argu not collectively responsible. (Ch eers. ) Th ere was an meats which 1 advanced may be of very littlevalue, but earnest desire to exclude the pa s s agesre l at i ng to Oude from th e h o n. member for Birmingham, not content with the publication. Accident—unforeseen accident—alone steering those arguments, has thought fit t o make prevented it. But, I rep at, un d er th e sea l o f secrecy character. Now, that is a subject into a . attack n upon my personal the warningto the Governor-Generel with respect to Oude the time of the house in was not only not inexpedient, but was correct. (Hear.) am sorry to have to trespassupon which Ido not desire to enter at any length. I 'deed, I It (eight to be remembered. by the Governor-General in I believe the • and as right 11( n dealing with the population of Oude. If under ordinary necessary for me to do so ;. respect to it at all, but , I fe f el o th e a E t l i o t ia w ag il u l e b r e pl a .o h p so o l se i s te t ly o circumstances' sonic focbeeraeca wan due to them, gentleman the Chancel t .o o r f , I beg to give notice that I shall of house to-morrow for tho I think the facts connected with the extension of our move the adjourime s n dominion in that part of India entitle them to special in- : 1 1 , 1 , i t thats u n t i : .1 , e p t h o o ° r t 'llll'l wishedua which eh Y ,Ip havet o offaieiratis,odnie when I trust tho h (eHxpealarn, explanation or. member for )inreo &donee. (Cheers.) Upon the whale, therefore, I am may, be y, resent, to make some reference t bound to say that every topic touched on in the despatch Birmingham appears to me jastifiable. Some gentlemen have thought the remark s r jor Mr. DUN that the despatch of the Court of Directors was only a rc- re( naineut which ho had that dulplication of the despatch of Lord Ellenborough, and ference to the i his intsntion to move Mould evening given notice it was the root i m of in fact, was written by the same hand. We now know tleman th 3 memb•f right hen. gon . or Oxford o - the positively that it was not so—that Lord Ellenborough had the e the lon member for S wan n tmeat o a . sea be cerried nothing to do with the preparation of the Leadenhall alre IlLearthy con:maned with those who c d ' * on emned the street desp:dch, and only altered one or two words in it. — e ~ • of the despatch of Lor d I pubocation Ellenborough, as we ll You see how both despatches agree—how every sentiment as deprecated its general tone. He, ho waver,equally expressed in the ono is to be found in the other. (Cheers.) with those who disapproved :he proclanoatio, n of Lord agreedc After all, however, Lord Centring was not recalled ; the ning, and as he was of opinion that the resolutions an of the preclamation was not revoked ; practically there was great hon. gentleman the member for Orford would, if car forbearance exorcised towards the Govern m-General. (A right. the h • reed, preclude housefrom ' expressing any opiuli n on laugh.) My foie id the late Lord Advocate treats that that proclemation, and e ven go so far as to imply an statement with d er i s i on . (H ear .) He is responsible for • approval of the views which it set forth h , o should the exercise of great powers; ray knoeledget of hie kinn- I find it imposiele to vote for these ' resolutions unless they ness leads ins to know that he would not exercise those surprised he were qualified in some such way as to meet the ohjec• ion powers with harshness, and therefore lam high which he had to hem in th • ' ur present shape. He under should be of opinion that an error on tin part of a these circumstance preposed to add to the esolutioes the officer of State should not be pointed o t, end its rue ; amendment of which 1 e had iv ennotice r th - • g d n e early par t Lions given to hires to mitigate what wouldappea of the e • 1• h evening wne amen meat, if acceat ed by the to be undue severity. (Hear, hear) The Gover n or- right bon. gentlema then member for Oxford, wou'd General, as I have said, was not recalled. The only cycler I I able him to en which the despatch contains is to be found in the support the motion of the right hon. gentle 18th in prat- man. If, however, the amen , m nt acre rejected by the paragraph. It directs him to mitigate _ an order right hon. gentleman itwould be clear that he meant to !ice the :severity of his decree of confiscation _ noble I put upon the resolutions * which• a construction to they did which I must say is wise and prudent. (Cheers ) The , that the Cabinet, not seen at present to be clearly open, and he . !eel the member for London has slated enter; aining that opinien, ought to have recalled Lord I Duelop) should feel it to be his duty to vote against ' the m. I • • ) The right hon. gentleman the em. 1 the amendment of the non. member for Swansea Canning. ( Hear hear. ' member ter Oxford in bringing forward his motion appeared , were carried, it would, he thought, be expedient to m a k e to think that there was no tn. • d.-Ile term between recall and to it the add i ti on w hi c h b e p ro p ose d i n th e even t o f th e adoption of the proclamation. 1 resoluti ons b e i ng p aste d, i nasmuc h as h e d eeme d it t o b e . _ , Mr. CAR'JWit•LI , What I said was, that there were extremely desirable that the House of Commons should three courses. (Laughter.) If you disapprove the conduct pronounce a distinct Opinion us to the course of policy [ADVERTISEMENT.]—WIVES, MOTHERS, and Daum„ T ERS should read "Tight-lacing and its Consequencea in the next number (No. 5) of th e P ouse h o ld Ph ys i c ian,* which edeo contains other articles interesting to every family in the kingdon. Edited by Dr. Denis Cronin, M.D., and published every Saturday, price Id., by A. Berger, .Queen's-Head -passage, Paternoster-row, Country fila,rkets. MANCHESTER-MAY 20. There was a fair supply of wheat to-day, but the demand was limited, and prices maintained last week's currsucY; Oats and oatmeal in limited request, but cannot be quota' lower. English beans ruled firm, but Egyptians, as als° Indian corn, were rather cheaper. LOUTH-MAT 19. - - --- At our corn market to-day there was a fair attend' ante, and wheat met a limited Bale, at former rates. Weat, red, 39s to 43e ; mired, 46e ; white, 475; barley 31a to 375; oat., 21s to 28s ; beans, 41s to 45a. BOSTON—MAY 19. We had a large attendance of buyers to-day, and a gaol supply of grain of all sorts. Wheat wet a firma ,sals, last week's rates. Littlee Spring corn on offer, at late prices. Prices :—Wheat, red, 38e Od to 44s Od; new, —1 to --". white, 423 Oct to 46s Od, extra, 475. Ba r l e y, 28 1 Od to Od. Oats 25s to 30s. Peas, 40 to 453 Od. Beans, 41 " Od to 44s Od per qr. NEWARM—MaY 19. The supply of wheat was liberal to-day, and taken °I freely at an advan ce o f is p er qr .. Oth e r art i c l es lit° °u ' at last week's rates. tlag Wheat, white 44s to 48s ° red 42s to 465; barley, 40s to 425, grinding 33s to 365; oats, 12sst. 30s to 345, I '4 —s to • s ; beans, 40s to 44s ; malt, 68 s t o 72s ; pe ,l3, • to 42s ; tares, —s to —s par qr. GLASGOW—MAY 19. ege To-day wheat did not sell so readily as during the iv t . but previous prices may be repeated. Flour rather in f t_ Your of buyers. Oats and oatmeal dull, at l a t e rate" Barley neglected, although freely offered at a declin e Beans and Indian core as before. EDINBURGH GRAIN.—MAY 19. A good supply of grain to-day. Sales heavy for oat!' beans, wheat, and barley, and all a shade back. • Wheat, on the top, Is Od up, and on the avtli Oa 9d down. Barley; le Od down on the top, and 11 0 down on the average. Oats on the top were is 3d 1 10 1. , and on the average Os 4d down. Beans on the OPP Od down, an .1 on tho average Os 3d down. AVERAGES PER IMPERIAL QUARTER. Wheat £2 1 4 3-12th. Do. new -12ths. Barley 1 13 0 4-12ths. Oats 1 8 4 6-12ths. Beans Total Supply and Sales. Whoat 1051 qrs sold 956 VII Barley 743 qrs qrs Oats 1345 qrs s qrs Beans 7B qrs sold sla d 82 7 99 8 95 qrs DERBY SMITHFIELD.—MAT 18. Oar market well supplied with fat beasts to.clai , greater part from the North of England ; quality, genelbit good, and prices rather dearer, and readily obtained. o r e number of sheep was large and in request. Fat and st calves more plentiful. egia l The following were the quotations :—Beef, 61.3 1 - , mutton, 6,1 to bid ; lamb, —d to 9d ; veal, 6d tc 6i 4 r o4 lb. ; pork, 51d to Ncl per lb ; rough fat, 65 0 per 141 b.; hides, 2id to nd per lb ; calf.skins, 4d. s° per lb. LOCAL SHARE MARKSTL • LIVERPOOL—MAY 20. STOOK EXCHANGE—The market to-day has been q 4. , but steady. Birkenhead, 714 2—Leeds Northern, 23i p a Manchester, Sheffidd, and Lincoln, 38 to fi— Lo ndon i t o I North Western, 94—Lancashire and Yorkshire, 91 g•oh --Midlands, 93 h—Eastern Counties, 12 I—Caledon l. o 42$ i—Blackburn, 9j 10—South Easte rn , 21: -14.° e ol British, 12 i—Dutch Rhenish, 4$ 4i d.—Great vc° s , of Canada, 191 19j—Y or k an d N or th Midl a nd, 3 1 a t° Chester and Holyhead, 18 to 181--Berwicks, 2 3 1 Or —East Lancashire, 90 to 91—Graid Trunk of CS ° 12/ to 12i:. LEEDS, MAT 20. STOCK EXCHANGE.—North-Westerns, B : l—Caledon lal3l 35I—North Eastern, LeedP, No. 2, 44 pm. M.INCLIESTE, MAY 20. 00 STOCK EXCHANGE.--Thp market opened with firairl„ in prices, but only a moderate business. Midl a nds,tio —Sheffields, 38i Londons, 9 , 4—Trunks, 12 5-1.6- 140 4 Eastern, Leeds, Qrs, p-Dovers, 20' 15 - 1 6—Leeds, " —Eastern Counties, Pt BIRMINGHAM, MAY 20. STOCK EXCHANGE.—This market was active to-day, 014 prizes rather higher. South Staffurds were done at ICY, Great Westerns, Birmingham Guaranteed, 73I—Birn),1" ham and Stour Valleys, 8 1-16—Shropshire - Unions, 4'l4' BIRTHS. BARKWORTII—On the 20th inst., at Beve r ly, M r s. ga r°l4 Barkworth, of a son. BRIDGE—On the 18th inst., Mrs. Alexander Bridge, place, of a sen. M ai CLARKE—On the 19th inst., at the Royal UMW91, 154 ., decoy, Woolwich, th e wife of J. Lardner Clarke , ' 1 " R.A ~ of a son.' ; gee, t he On the 16th i ns t., a t Bl a i r gowr.o 11 w rie, the wife of Allan Macpherson, Esq., yr., of Blairr"" of a son. 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