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IMPERIAL PAR LIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS. —(YESTEADAY.) The LORD CEIANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack St five o'clock. THE CASE OF MR. IV.PDERMOTT. The Earl of DONOUGLI vk ORE ‘ald tbat, in conse• quence of the resigention by Mr. M'Dermott Of the office he held in the coun y of Kerry, there would be no occasion to proceed further in toe matter, as the object • f the Government had been obtained. He, therefore, moved that the order for a committee of the whole house, which stood for Monday next, be read and discharged. The order was then read and discharged accordingly. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The Formartine and Buchan RAdway and the South Devon and Tavistuck Railway Bills were read a second time. The East Kent Railway, the Taunton Water, Bally =ali, Coleraine, and Portrush Railway, and Salisbury and Yeovil Rail way, were real a t , ,lrd time and passed. THE GOVERNMENT OF INDIA. The Marquis if LANBDOWNE begged to call the attention of the house to .a subject of considerable importance and at the same time expressed his regret that the noble E irl at the head of the Government wa , prevented being present. The subj-2ct was one a'lmitt•ng of no delay, and bad been for a long time under considera ion—he meant the new =e tle neat of he Government of India. This was a qu,stiln which it was i•epor ant that tie house should regari with as much at tention as the other house of Parliament, but neverthe less a great many bills were now passed late in the 'session which their lordships bad not full time to con sider. He had learnt, from the usual public channels of information, that this great question, after having assumed various aspects there, had entirely at one time been lost in what he considered needless preliminary in quiries. It now appeared that by some good fortune they bad at last foundoutthe rightread,and that they were now in a positionto communicate to their lordships the progress they had made. He did not, at the present moment, intend to express any opinion on the subject, his simple • ot-j ea' being to contribute, 39 far as possible, to .the early despatch of the messure, and, therefore, be begged to ask whether the Government had any Objection to propose to the House of CJIMMODEI to com municate to their lordships the resolutions which they bad just passed, without waiting for the passing of the bill. By communicating these resolutions their lordships would be enabled to fury consider the whole of the measure, and thus to form their opinions without waiting for the detailed measure ' which could not be received for a considerable time. He therefore begged to ask, whether there would be any objection on the part of her Majesty's Government to propose to the other house to make the communication to which he had referred I (Rear, hear.) The Earl of MALMESBURY mid in the absence of his noble friend at the head of the Government, ho would ask the noble marquis to permit him to postpone until Monday next a positive answer to his question, In the meantime he would communi cate his observations to his noble friend, who would give them all the consideration their importance de served. (Hear, 6ar,) THE MUNICIPAL FRANCHISE BILL. This bill pasHed through commit , e9. PRIVATE BUSINESS. Lord STANLEY of ALDERLEY moved that a select committee be appointed to inquire into the present state of proceedings in Parliament on private bilk, and to consider whether any improvement could be effected so as to faci:itate such legislation and diminish its ex- Fence. Lord REDESDALE thought upon the whole no great advantage would be gained by the proposed change, He did not oppose the motion. Lord BROUGHA.NI supported the appointment of the committee. He was more sanguine of the good that would result from it than the noble lort who had just sat down. He recommei , de i the appointment of a joint committee for priva - e bills. Lord PORTMAN supported the motion. Hs con sidered the proceedings in committee might be advan tageously and materially shortened. Lord DONOUGIINIORE said the advsntagos cf se parate committees were in ninny cages int altribl,., ard be doubted the proprie'y of dispensing with them in any case. He thought the present system was capable of amendment, and he should not oop , se time motion. After some words from Lord STANLEY of ALDER LE Ir in reply, The motion was agreed to and a committee appointed. THE VICARAGE OF CAMBERWELL. Lord ST. LEONARDS pre-ented a pe4ition from the vestry of Camberwell as to the present state of the vicarage and the law of sequestration. The noble lord referred to the present state of the parish. The nuinb-r of souls in the parish was 60,000, and the income 2,3001. The vicar war so greatly in debt that he had absented himself from the parish, and the revenues of the vicar age were now under sequestration. The duties were performed by two curates, appointed by the bishop, who had no power to give them more than 2001. a year between them, and the petitioners prayed for a❑ -alteration of the law of sequestration. Lie thought their lordships would be of opinion that every clergy man was bound to reside in the midst of his con gregation. Now what he should be inclm Al to propose wry, that no clergyman should be Fable to arrest, but, on the other hand, he would compel him to haul over the whole of his means to a trust 'es for the benefit, of his creditors, reservirg only so much as would enable Lim to reside where his du its called him. An arrangement of that kind would put an end to the practice f c•ergy- - men going abroad in order to avoid arrest, and thereby the interests of his parishioners and hia creditors wou:d be adequately guarded, Lord .I.)USGANNOIC vim very gl..d tlat !IFs rol.)1e, friend had devoted his great powers to the consideration of ibis most imperant question, and he entirely eon ,enrred in thinking it was one which demanded the atten tion uf the Le2is!ature. Lord REDESDALE likawise wag of opinion that the evil complained of in the pAiticu presented that evr:ing bad bec,:ime so pushing that it ought to be at once dealt with. The petition wac then ordered to lie upon the table. PROBATES AND LETTERS OF ADMINISTRA TION Acr AMENDMENT BILL. This bill was read a third Lirrif and passed. PEACE PRESE RVATIO NT (I R E LAND) ACT CONTINUANCE BILL. This bill having been read a second titne, Their lerdships adjourned at twenty minutes past 7 HOUSE OF COMIONS.--(YESTERDAY.) The SPEAKER took the chair at 4 o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The Crystal Palace Di.tric-. Gai Bal was read a third time and pa.!secl. The f Ailvving private bills were further considered and ordered to be read a third time : Stockton and liirlingto i Railway (Durham Lines), Stucicor , and D ,r'in4ton Railway (North 11. ding Line,), and Stockton and airlington, Wear Vatey, Stc., Rail way Companies Arnalgarrati ,, n. NEW WRIT. On the motion cf Sir W. HATTER, a new writ was ordered to be issued f..r the Eastern Division of Norfolk, in the room of Sir E N. Buxton, deceaset4 THE LATE RUSSIAN WAR. Mr. CRAWFORD gave notice that be would on 6.h July call the attention cf the house, and wore a r&solu- Con, relative to the destruction of property belongieg to British eubjects in the Gulf of Bothnia, during the late Ruscian war. THE GERMAN LEGION AT TEE CAPE. Sir DE LACY EVaNS asked the S-_crdiary of State for War, from what fund the German Legion at tie Cape of Good Hope-had been paid during the last 30 ir the field allowances and full pay which the governor of that colony wa. , Ntated to have issued t , them ? General PEEL said that the pay and allowances re ferred to had been paid by Sir George Grey out of t'e commie..ariat chest instead of out of the collnial reve when in office, sen t out instruc nue. L )rd Panmure, Cons that the German Legion must be paid by the colony and not by the imperial Goveenment, and he (Gen. Pee!) entirely agreed with the noble lord, and hal repeated them since he had been in office. KISSING A YOUNG LADY AGAINST HER WILL. Mr. FITZROY, amidst cries of " hear, hear," and cheers, asked the Secretary of State for the Nome Department whether his attention had been called to a case which bad recently occurred before the Wareham Petty Session, when a carpenter of the name of Craft was sentenced, under the Aggravated Assaults Act, to six mouths' imprisonment, a ith bard labour, for kissing th e daughter of the Rev. H. C. Collies, of Farringdoo Rectory, Devon, on landing from a stea er between Poole and Swanage. The hon. gentleman in the course of his observations said that the act referred to, which he in troduced, was:very often perverted from its original intention. Mr. WALPOLE said his attention had not bean called to the case intimated by the hon. gentleman's question, but if his firm. friend would procure the facts to be laid before him he would look into them and tee if the act of which he was the author required amendment or not. The preamble was very cliffttreut to the body of the act. (lleer, hear.) CHINA . Mr. HORSFALL asked the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Afftirs, whether there was any truth in.the reports which appeared in the French papers of ._an arrangement restricting the discretionary powers of the plenipotentiaries in China, and ordering them to ne gotiate at Cant•in, Pekin, or elsewhere. Mr. S. FITZGERALD said there was no truth in the reports that bad appeared in the newspapers re spetting a restriction of the discretic nary powers tf the P l eniiontentiari e p • On th e THE SLAVE TRADE rnotio n f or Mond or the adjournment of the house till Mr. P. O'BRIEN called the attention of tier Maje,ty's .Government to the int rat' A , Toros at presentlePnrlukcY cf mail'taitd" the large ?oyed upon the west coast of ; t o f u : f ' e t a lu ave l' tra `Ze: I ndia :hater?, for the suppres , THE MILITIA.. Colonel FRENCH asked the Sereta v of Ver if it was his in t e ntion to recoramettvdth;d'',',,,a„l f ~r aw n of any additional regiments of militi a , 'would inform the hou se on what p r inciple th e • and —he 'w sixteen regiments lately dissmbOird were belected General PEEL said it was not the intention of her Majesty's Government at present to di s embody any more regiments of militia. Toe drafts of troops that went ant to India was only the usual monthly demand. A. Urger number will be sent out next month in cense. (pence of a necessary delay this month. The principle adopted for disembodying these regiments was that thoue regiments that bad given their quota to the line and Otero efasient should be retained, and those that had THE SUN, IMNIION, SATURDAY E V ONTI N 7 O, JUNE 19, 1858. even the nearePt quota and were Efficient were to have the preference over thoi.e who had not given any. THE WELLINGTON MONUMENT. Works, and he would like to ask how he was satisfied with the operations of the body he had called into exist mace ? The hill received the royal assent on the 14th of August, 1855. It provided that before the 31st Discern ber, 1860, the whole of the works should be completed, to prevent the sewaae of the metropolis from passing into the river in or near the metropolis. They were now in June, 1858, yet nothing had been dono except to pro pme three schemes, which all proved ahertive. By the first plan of the board the outtall of the sewage was to b.: at Plurnstead ; but as the whole of that parish was within the metropolitan district the plan violated the very act under which the board was c instituted. Ilw wished to know whether the Gwterntnent would take immediate steps for remedying this great and crying ' evil ; whether they could hold out some hope that this I immense metropolis would soon cease to be ascandal tothe country, and the forms and centre of disease and dea'h I Lord J. MANNERS said the hor. member (Mr. Stir ling) had very fairly stated the course of events thus far with regard to the Wellington Monument. In 1856 tee artists of all countries were invited to compete ; in 1857 the judges made their award, that award being sigeed among others by Lord Overstone, the Dean of St, Paul's, and his right bon. friend the member for the University of Oxford. The judges selected the de-igns for which they awarded the prizss without regarding the question of their adaptation to the site which was then in iicated in the oath , dral %here it was intended to place the monument, and they suggested, and he thought most properly, that before they determined which, if any, of the desigaa should be seise' ed, the government should consult some architect of eminence as to the local effect which wou'd be produce I by the erection of any particular monument in St. Paul's. When he came into office no practicel step appeared to have been taken be yond the presentation bf the repot tof the j udges. It therefore became his duty to consider which of the de signs was, in his opinion, most worthy of being selected for a monument in St. Paul's Cathedral. In all the dis cus-ions in that !sense upon art and taste hon. gentlemen and noble lords wore apt to dogmatise ina manner which might be pardonable in Spanish Inquisitors pronouncing on matters of Christian faith, but which appeared to him singularly out of place when they were discussing m atters of opinion ; and in stating the conclusion at which he had arrived on this sulject he wished to guard himself against being supposed to claim infal libility. Under the circumstances he had thought him self bound to act on the recommendation of the judges, that some one onepetent to advise on the subject should be consulted as to the local effect which wouid b 3 pro duced by the various designs. No one appeared to him better qualified by position and accomplishments to give adv ce than Mr. Penrose. (Hear.) They went over the deigns tsgether, and the design which they bo:h thought the best was that known as No. 18, the design of Mr Stephen-. They then considered the question of site, and they agreed that the bust site far the purpose in view was the chapel a the west end of the cathedral, which had hi, herte been used as the Coneistory Court. The dean aid chapter had placed that chapel at the dis posal of the Government for the erection of the monu ment. (near, hear) One great advantage would be derived from the circumstance of that 'lace being a chapel. His hon. friend bad pointed out most truly that in fernier times it was not theught suffieieat in such a case as that under consideration to have recourse to sculpture, but that the sister art of painting was called in aid ; and the selec ion of a site which bad been made would enable them to act on that principle. (Elear.) lie proposed that the a 'aptation of the chapel and its architectural ornamentation should be confided to Mr. Penrose. He thought it advisable, acting on the re commendation of the judges, to call in the assistance of some architect of eminence, and that those gentlemen should form a committee to whom should be cones led the execution of a monument woe thy of the great duke whom it was intended to commemorate, worthy of toe state of English art in the nineteenth century. (Hear.) With regard to the question put by the hon. member for Gail:ford (Mr. R. Mangles), he was satisfied that I he was quite right in the answer which he gave to a similar question the other day, which was, in effect, that so fir as the draining of the Thames was con cerned, the First Csamnissierier of Works had no power beyond ti at of vetoing any scheme which inignt be submitted to him by the Metropolitan Board of Works. The hon. member fir Andover ('lr. W. Cubits), after admit' ing thitho had no powcr over the Tbarnesdrainage, had asked him whether he bad done, or was prepared to do, anything for the preservation of the health of U:1,123- beri while they were sitting in that house. He could only say, in answer to that question that he had that day received from Mr. Gurney a report in which he stated what he propond to do to carry outhis (Lord J, Manner-) wishes on the 81114 tct. Mr. Gurney said—"Sir,—l do not lose a clement in answering your letter received last evening, reque , tieg me to report to the First Commis sioner what is already being done to improve the condi tion of the river TuatneP, ire the neighbourhood of the two hoaxes of Parliament, and also what, if anything, I pro pose to do in the matter within my jurisdiction. With regard to the river itself there is nothing done, nor can Ido anything, Bin-a the meeting of Parliament and during the recess the mud outvde the terrace was re moved ; but during the sitting of the house and while the river is in its precent state, the accurnu'ation cannot be moved. In answer to your latter question, I beg to say the !mans by which I propose to reiieve the river (according to my report to the First Commissioner, pirtni by order of the house, 12th Deo. last, Sessional No. 21) is now under clusi:leiation of a committee of the House of (.3.)mmoi , . 1 think it right to state for his lord snip's informa ion, that the air entering directly the. House el Peers and Commons through the proper venti lating channels is purified from the river effluvia by the spray je s. For the pur.filation of the air c timing in through the windows of the House of Lards and (Join mons, should either be epened, I have placed canvass rnoisted with a weak solution of chi ride of Wm; and lime, The same is being fixed at all the windows likely to be opened towards the river in the libraries and committee rooms." lie might Merin the Lou a that, in ace lel ante with the recommendation of the noble lord the raemberfor Tiverton, which was concurred in by Ininsdr, Mr. Gurney had been engeg-d all that day in distributing through the Thames, in tbe viciray of the houses of Perlisinent, four or five boat-loads of lime, and in spreading line over the mud bank , . (Laughter.) Such was the simple Incises adopted for the purpose of eff,ct ing the object merlin:mei by the bon. gentleman, and at present he did not know what m we could be done. Tire questnn raised by hi, hoe,. friend was a very large and serious one. He had no het-nation in saying that in Lis own op:nion the provisions of the Local Management Act in reerence to the drainage of the Thames a,d the veto given to the F rat Cerarni‘sioner of Works were not sati-factory. There sae a double government and a di vided re• pensibility of the most ineonver Lott kind. A large body of gentlemen, elected by the popular voice, were th d down by the words of an ac - , of Parliament to do a certain thing in a certain way, and by a subsequent faction they were prevented from doing that without the api.r >val of the Fast Commissioner of Works, who had no means of OYaihimg the best information on the su' ject. The Beard of Works had submitted to the right hon. baronet opposite (Sir B Hal ) various plans which he had felt it his duty to rej,ct. A rew plan nad, be believed, been recetaly proao Ed by the eneeneer , f the Metropolitan Board of Work-, but it had not yet been brought under nis notice. Some change ought to be made, and he should be very happy to confer with any one wlip could suggest any E 11.13118 by which a useful °Lange might be effected. The difficulty was this—if the Governmeat took upon theni-ie,ves the drainage of the Tnames, at an enormous expense, they cool I net in ju-tice call upon the en- tr )pnis to pay for that drainage ; while, on the other band, if the netropolis were call ,t 1 upon to do the work, it was but fair that it should do it in what manner it pleased. Tee re-poesibility- and the burden must he imposed on the one party or the other. Mr. J. S. WORTLEY believed tl at no good step would ever be taken with regard to drainage until the relations of the G evernment and the Metropolitan Board were placed on a more satisfactory footing, and some one was entrusted with more , discretionary power. As regarded the monument to the Duke of Wetingtoe, he would entreat the noble lord to allow time for the expression of the opinion of tbe artistic world and of the community in general with respect to t le decision which he had announced. There was, he believed, a general iinpressi no that the designs exhibite2. were anything but creditable to Engihh act. Sir B. HALL wished to say a few words with re gard to his own conduct in reference to the drain age of the Thames. Soon after the Metropolitan Board of Works came into existence they presented to him a plan in which the omfall was within the metro politan area, and as that was contrary to the act he felt it Lis duty to reject it. Soon afterwards there came another plan, which he rejected on a similar ground. Considering that both these plans were con trary to the provisions of the act, he thought it was a wise arrangeMent that all plans bad to be submitted to the First Commissioner of Works. (Hear ) He then felt it his duty to put himself in communication with the Metropolitan Board of Works on the subj •ct. Pre viou•ly to doing so he obtained from the then First Lord of the Admiralty the assistance of Capt. Banta% and i t n ha w t h ill ie D h t e h ce e m o b u e t r fa l l a i s w t t i l , a g er v e la w ce a d s sautbamsiuttined et the oienhti result md ia., t ap was nlacen from the metripolis. He put that plan in the 1 ands of three of the most eminent engineers in the Itiagdom, eho substituted fm it are teer plan. This with an i n timatioa it was worthy of c ins! • last plan he sent to the Metropoloan Boarddoeraoo, t o W T or 6 l ,y e, did c nsiiier it ; they referred it to their own engineer and two other gentlemen who were associated with therm Those gentlemen presented a plan to the Metropolitan Board cf Works, but instead of remitting that plan to the noble lord who succeeded him in office, they passed a resolution deiernnz the consideration of the subject till October next. Ho thought the time was now come when the Government should v n,:nsider whether they should not take this matter into their own hands and appoint a cointnissisn of qualifi4d per-ons to carry out the object, subject of course to the approval of the Trea. sury. Mr. STIRLING asked the Chief Commissioner of Works, if it was the intention of her Majesty's Go vernment to order any one of the Prize Designs for the , Wellington Monument, now exhibited in the conference ' room, to be executed for St. Paul's ; and, if not, whether he would state the course which the Government proposed to adopt with regard to the design and construction of the monument. He characterised the exhibiton of models as a failure, and it was to be reeretted so much time and labour had been thrown away in producing models totally unfit for the severe teyle of Wren in connection with St. Peure. Lord J. MANNERS said he would answer the ques tion at a later period of the evening. THE INFORMER BURKE. The O . DONOGROE asked the Attorney-General for Ireland, whether he had any objection to lay on the table a copy of the notes taken by the Solicitor-General ler Ireland in his examination of the informer Burke, after the revelations said to have been made by Burke to the policemen and driver of the car who took him from Nenagh to Itomcrea ; and also a copy of Butke's evidence on the trial of the Cormacks ? He had reason to believe the cause of Burke's second statement w as the threat of the resident magistrate that unless he told who murdered Mr. Eilis he should remain in gaol till he rotted—be being in confinement at the ' time, The honourable gentleman also took occa sion to c emplain of the proceedings on the trial of the Cormacks, e-pecielly the irregular discharge of the j cry on the first trial, because they did not agree to a verdict, and to the manner in which the jury for the second trial was selected. Mr. Justice Keogh, who tried the prisoner, charged the jury in a manner as he (The O'Donoghoe) hoped juries sere seldom charged within these realms, for he frightened the jury into a verdict , f condemnation. Every attempt was made to save them, but without success, and the men were executed on the 11th of May. Since then, circumstances had occurred that tended to shake the belief in the credibilty of the witnesses. There was grave matter for investigation (hear, hear), and it was not right to put Burke out of the way to prevent it. There were persons to be found that had heard him say he male the statement on the trial to please the public. The case must sooner or later be investigated, to satisfy public indignation of feeling in Ireland. Mr. GILPIN urged that the circumstances of the case should be fully investigated. Mr. BAGWELL said the greatest excitement prevailed in the county of Tipperary respecting this trial. There had never been a trial in Ireland before this where the public fechng had been so much excited, there was a prevalent feeling that justice had not been done. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL objected to cases of this kind being brought before that house, so as to make it a c iurt of appeal against a cenvictien. The right hon. gentleman referred to the position of the late Mr. Ellis in Kerry, and the circumstances connecting his murder. The tnen who were executed were in Mr. Elli-'s employ, and were well paid. Spillan, the informer, and Burke, were also in the deceased's employ. The C:xmacke re sided near where Mr. E its was murdered, and it was proved by independent evidence tbat the Cormacks were in the heuee, and f firmed a portion of a card-party there, near the time when Mr.Ellts passed inui , car. After referring to other details in connection with the murder, he said the case was fairly tried, and every justice was rendered them on this tiled. They challenged nearly thirty jurymen. Burke'e reason for not stating 011 the corover's inquest who murdered his mater, was, that he was terrified on seeing him before him—one of the Cer imacks being actually on the jury. It was a mot un worthy thing to impugn the justice of twelve men taken from the c eii tit. The O'DONOGEME said he had done nothing of the kind, Mr.WHlTESlDEcontinued—With regard to tl-e jury it was a mixed jury ; nobody was set aside on account cf hie migious opetione. They hone , tly tried the ca , e, they came to an honeet verdict, and that house had no authority to review the case. It was said, what had become of Burke and Spillan ? why, the answer was that if they rem dried in Tipperary ►hey would be torn into a thcusand pieces. I; was an impoitant thing to know that the Crow❑ never deserted a witness WhoiA3 lie was j.,:opa-di:ied by evidence which be had given. As to Burke having denied his evidence, the Lict, was this. He had to be — removed, and the car driver who conveyed him having some •uspicicn who he waq, said, "Are you the fellow who gave evidouce against Corwack e His rep'y was " I am ;" and then upon a supposed conversation between these two, it was asE,umed that a case tried bef,re a jadge and jury and upon evi• deuce sifted on oath ; the case alter the trial was th , ,roughly investigated ; a period of Eix weeks was allowed after the sentence was passed, and after the fullest investigation the L - .rd-Ueu'enant did cot feel himself justified in interfering wi.h the sentence. Mr. BRADY reviewed the evidence, and contended that it WAS most uusatiefictory. The subj.ct then dropped. THE CONFESSIONAL IN BELGRAVIA.. Mr. 13UTLEEt asked whether it was the intention of her Maje-ty's Government to take any steps in conse quence of the practices alleged to have taken place at the confessional in the district i.f Si;„ Biireahae, Pimlico ; and the statements that similar practices are being con tinued by other ministers of our church in that neigh bourhopd ; and whether her Majesty's government is in communion,' ion with the proper eccl siastical authority, in order to the punishment of all who may hare taken part in such practices. 11 , 3 had always felt t at ques tions of a religious character ought al says to to avoided in that Louse, or, at all events, to be lightly touched upon. The borough be represen tt d had populati,,n over half a million, and in duty to them he tbought he wiis entitled to this informstion. Ho did not wish to say anytaing of the q‘i,i,tihn in the at..;.,l.nazi, as he iinde- stood that an appeal against the deci , ion of the Bishop of London was in the hands of the Archbishop of Canterbury. Mr. WALPOLE had no he , :itation in ?aying that if three practices bad talien piece, the sooner they were puF Ra end to the bet'er. But there had been dubs and denia!S aq to these practices. Tois was a subjoc - , f)r the judicial cognisance cf the 131,.11 , p, and it wouLt be uriwn , e on thepanto` the Government to expreA4 what might 13J a premature opinion. Lord ELCIIO thcuillt the public had aright to know that the large sum of 20,0001. which had been raised for this monumect should be laid out in a marina which would produce the most eflective result. Sir J. V. SHELLEY thought that the Metropolitan Board of Works tad been rather, hardly dealt with ; that it was not so easy tr.) purify the Thames as seemed io be iniagir:ed. If, as the hon, member tai I, it should be, an imperial undertaking, the met•opoli., would be very willing to be relieved from payiug for it. The maropolrs (might not to be celled on to carry a main drainage far beyond the'r own limits. THE NAWAB OF SURAT. Mr. COLLIER asked the President of the Board cf Control whether it was the intention of her Majesty's Go vernment to refer the eliicui of Meer JafEer All Khan to the private pr party of the late Nawah of Surat, the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council ? Lord STANLEY did not think that the house wa very *all inclined to go into the affairs of the Nawab of SnrAt, atar, hear, There was a very considerable legal difficulty in the way of the course recommended ; and, as it was his intention to consult the law officers of the Crown, till be received their report he could not state what course would be pursued. THE AMERICAN DIFFICULTY. Mr. BRIGHT rose to put a question to the Under- Secretary of State for F reign Affairs on the subject of the proceedings of the English squadron engaged in the suppression of the slave trade, and with respect to our relations with the United States. He said—l do not wish at all to enter on the discussion of this question, just now exciting so much interest, for I understand that before long an hon. member is likely to submit the whole subj-ct to the consideration of the House of Commons. I must say, my own opinion has always been very much adverse to the position of the armed squadron by which it is attempted to suppress the slave trade, and if such motion as I have alluded to hi brought forward I will give it my support. I wish to ask whether the Govern ment has received any information as to this matter which can be laid before the house, to put the house and the country iu posseesion of the position in which we stand, and also give information relative to the appre hensions that exist in this country and on the other side of the Atlantic, for the influence of any et itement by the Government will be felt here and felt there, I think this is one of the cases in which great frankness and openness will be advantageous. There may be a few persons in America and here also who do not object to aquarrel, but I thi n k th a t th e grea t in both countries wou ld t a k e a diffe rentsboumi ken the like people view, and would rsgrt t that anything should occur to cause discord between the two countries. (Hear, hear.) Perhaps the noble lord will ray how many ves sels have been sent out, whether the number has in creased or decreased since last year? Lord Aberdeen had referred, in the House of Lords, to instructions issued in 1844, and said t hat if those instructions had been adhered to no difficulty c"uli have arisen. I do not know whether any fresh instructions have gone out, but I hardly think that the officers on the station would have cent:flitted—l will nut say the outrages—but the acts comp'aiued of. I bag to ask the question now, as the steamer leaves Liverpool to-morrow, and anything that may be said to-night will go out to the United States with the least possible delay. Mr. S. FITZIERALD, who was very indistinctly heard, was understood to say—The hon. member for Birmingham (Mr. Bright), and the hon. member for King's County (Mr. P. O'Brien), have deprecated any minute discussion on this subject, which certainly is one of a delicate nature, and, though I cannot say it has produced alarm, has caucd anxiety. 1 will therefore make a direct statement upon the matter. The honourable member for Birmingham asks me whether I have received any more specific infermation as to what has occurred. Oe a former occasion I took an opportunity of saying that the information which had arrived was not of f icial ; and now I say that we have not received such information as will enable me to give a satisfactory answer to that question. This, how ever, at least I may say, that there have been such a c antinued course ti pr iceeaing on the part of our agents there, that I cannot but think that over-zeal may in some instances have led them beyond their instructions. I can on y say if that is so, that there will be on the part of the Gavernment the roost anxious wish if wrong has been done, to meet that wrong with the most candid acknowledgment that it has been dtme. I hope that the time is far distant when this country will give up any right which it c mceives itself justly entitled to. Bat I hope that the time is equally distant when this coun try from any folse pride wid refuse to acknowledge when she is in the wrong. (Hear, hear.) As to the question whether I have received any additional information, I trust that the statement I have made will be so far saris faetory. There is one other point on which I will make one or two observations; and I will do so princ!pally bectuse I think it will justify not only the hope I ex ' press, but the ceefelence that these circumstances, which have hitherto had this anxin us character, will be saris fectorily arranged. I wish to state this in justice to our officers abroad, that, though there may have been in stances of over zeal which have lsd officers to exceed the bounds of discretion, yet it is obvious from all that has come to our knowledge, that it is pertrc ly char that tho-e statements of what have been termed British out rages have been most grossly exaggerated. I will not at this period of the evening enter into an explanation of the circumstances that induce me to hold that of;- nion, but I will say that in the lest publication of one of the New York papers, and which have been copied into every journal in this kingdom, there appears this state ment, that 32 American vessels had teen detained and searched ; and these proceedings go under the name of British outrages. I may state what this outrage turned out t ) be. Tao brig C. F. O'Brien ehich was said to hove been outraged, " was boarded on the 21 of May in the harbour of Sagua la Grande, by an armed boat from a British steamer. The boat pulled alongside without hailing, and boarded without asking permission to do so. Tee usual questions as to the name, ownership, and de stination of the vessel were asked and answered, and the captain was requested to produce' his papers, These, be informed the officers, were at the office of the Ameri can Consulate. He made no further search of the ves sel, and having satisfied his curiosity, departed. His behaviour was civil, and no threat or intinsalation was suggested. This is only one ; and as to the Escor t, and as to another vessel, there is a similar statement—"Se p Esc,rt, from Havre to New Gleans, when off the south side of Cuba, the wind being quite light, a British etc Liner ranged alongside, and her commander said that he wished to communicate with the ship if her captain bad no obj,ctioa. (Heir, hear.) Captain Bryant said he would be happy to receive any communications the steamer pleased to make. The ship was not re- quested Co heave to, but the steamer ranged a-tread uf toe ship and droppecl a boat wnica ‘:ame a'o-.E . , , ! de. An offi.:er from her went on board, asked ‘.vhere the ship was from and boua', tut made no re quest see her paper , . He stated that the steamer was from Port Royal, Ja maica, and was then under sealed orders, to be opened ,ff Cap..! May. The officer asked it he caul I render the ship any service, snd being thanked retnrned to his Coat. Caytain Bryant states that from first to last the conduct if the steatner, her officers, and men was friendly. He states, moreover, that the ship's hold might half, been filled with negroes for aught the officer seemed to care. His visit was not prying in any cease. Captain Drya!,t c ,old nut call to mind the name of the kteamer wi hoot referring to the ship's leg. The brig Pulaski, C;:p!.ain Hawthorn, from Cienfuegos, arrived here tat evehiow, and r,p)rts chat on the 11th inst., in lat. 23 deg. 21 min., long. 83 deg. 34 min., she was hailed from a British war steamer, barque-rigiiel, arid asked where she aas from and bound, but was 'A re• quested to heave to, nor was she boarded, nor did the 4eaint . r fire at her. Captain Haw:horn, says the com mander of the steamer, c)nducted bins If just as arty de:ent shipunaiter wou:d when speaking :tau _nor vessel, at sea." wore framed in the most temperate spirit, and they were ho believed communicated to the Government of the United States. For fifteen years those instructions had been acted on in the most amicable spirit ; and the ques tion occurred, whether these complaints bad arisen from increased vigilauca, perhaps an over-stepping of duty on the part of the commanders of British cruisers, or from the unwillingness of the Americans to submit to the exe cution of those instructions, which for fifteen years h rd bee❑ punctually carried. out. In thesfirst place, it was the duty of the Government to restrain the overzsal of any commander, and, as the hon. gentleman had sal 1, it became us as a great nation, to repair any wrong which wo might have done ; bat on the other hand, it would be for the wis dom of the Government to devise, in concert with the American government such measures as might be necessary He thought that this was clear, that General Cass, on the part of the American Government, felt that it might be necessary to ascertain the nationality of yes els on the high seas. By the law of nations, or the enmity of nations, this power was always exercised, that on meeting a merehant vessel you require her to show her flag, and might test her nationality. It would never do for the American nation in carrying on their commerce in the Chinese seas, where piracy prevailed, after a pirate vessel had plundered an American vessel, and perhaps murdered her crow, that that pirate vessel on being met should only have to hoist a British ensign, and that that flag should protect her from any examination on the part of American commanders. As the hors. gentleman had justly said, here were two great nations having the s une purpose. He did not think that too much weight should be attached to speeches made oven in the American Congress ; he believed it was the interest of these two great nations engaged in the same work, and be hoped to hear that it was not their purpose to deviate from that line of policy which we had now followed for so many years, he meant the suppression of the slave trade. He only wished further to state the pleasure he had bail in hearing the temperate and proper speech of the hen. gentleman opposite. Lord PALUSIISTON--As some question had arisen as to the cruisers sent out to suppress the slave trade on the " Tie brig ElizA C.iptain Gordon, from Sao's, is Cri antic, arrived here yesterday atterooon. Wbdc at Sagua her captain bays she was nGt troubled by the Briti4), and be b , lieve3 that two-thirds of the stories in c . renlAtion about ow,rays, & , are ma le out of old cloth." is xt statement I wish to refer to is by Captain Cline, boarding offic.er of the Merchant Exc'sange at Bea ter). He says let he has conversed freely with the ma;- ter and crow of every vess e l that has arrived, and not o of them has been damaged to the a nount of one cent ; and in two cases where ve.sels are said to have been fired at, neither the crew nor the mates knew any thing about it. (A. laugh.) It is further stated that the British officers appeared moat a,axt us to avoid giving offence. I do not wish to throw doubts on the bona fides of the American government, cr to doubt for one moment that they thought that they ha,' grounds for the representations which they have made ; but I only want to put this before the house in justice to the officers %bon conduct is implgael, and to show the reason I have for the confident Lope that this menacing state of circumstances may be equitably and justly ar ranged. Another circumstance is, that from the docu ments laid before the Congress by the American Govern ment it would appear that the abuse of the American flag has been great. (flear.) What I mean is, that the American flag has been made use of by those who are not Americans, and who have no right to use it, and that it bas been prostituted in the vilest manner. (Hear.) I cannot help thinking that when these circumstances are brought to the knowledge of the American Govern ment, and when they find that this Government is dis posed to act in a conciliatory spirit, they on the other side of the water will meet us in a similar F pir.t. As to the right of search, it has always been a constant source ,•1 irritation between the two countries ; the right has never been admitted by the Americana, and consequently it became our duty, in the face of circumstances so se rious as those brought before us, to ascertain exactly what were our rights ; if we had rights, that we might be prepared to stand by them, and if not, that we might acknowledge our error. Consequently we took the ad vice of the law officers of the Crown, and it is their de cided opinion that by international law in time of peace we have no right of search, and that being the case, it would be unbecoming to delay acknowledging this for one moment to the American Government. It would, however, be wrong that we should be called on at once to cease our efforts to put down the slave trade. The cour,e taken by the English Government is what has been laid down by Gen. Cass, who says : "A merchant vessel upon the high seas is protected by her national Character. He who fore bly enters her does so upon his owa resp o nsibility. Undoubtedly, if a vessel as some a national el &rector to which she is not entitled , and is sailing u n d er f a l se co l our s, she cannot be protected b y the assumption of a nationality to which she has no claim. As the identity of a person must be determined by the offi cer bearings process for his arrest, and determined at the risk of such officer, seerunst the national identity of a vessel be determined at the like haz ad to him who, doubting the flag she displays, searches her to ascertain her true charac ter. There, ne doubt, may be circumstances which would go far to modify the complaints a nation would have a ight to make for such a violation of its sovereignty. If the boarding officer had just grounds for suspicion, and de ported himself with propriety in the performance of his task, doing no injury, a ,d peaceably retiring ohen sa' is fied of his error, no nation would make such an act the subject of serious reclamations." That is the petition we are entitled to take by inter national law ; it is that whidh thi. , American gentleman has himself acknowledged, and tlett ie the course which it will be the duty of our el ei?eis in these seal to pur sue for the future. The hun.• gentleman has asked me whether any addition has been male to out fleet in the Cuban waters? During the time that this government has been in office there has been no increase of the fleet in those waters, and I may say further that it has come under the consideration of the government whither m e continuance of this squadron in the Celine' waters ha-. answered the ebj,ct which we have in view, and whether there were not attached to the continuance of that fleet in the Cuban waters other objections of a different kind The maintaining a squadron on the coast of Africa is a different question to that of maintaining a squadron on the coast of Cuba. The squadron off Cuba is in the high way of American commerce, and there Would always coast of Cuba, ho must remind the house that thrt arrange ment had been adopted in deference to the frequently ex pressed wish of Parliament, and in consequence of frequent deputations which came to membersof the late Government ' urging that that emirate should be adopted. The Under' Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs also reminded the house that the plan was suggested and counselled by the American Government itself ; therefore there was nothing in that proceeding not founded on good grounds. It was always to be expected that those whose traffic was thus in. terfered with should endeavour to raise a cry, and he hoped that it would turn out that the complaints which we had heard so much of had originated very much from such a source. It was just to the American Government to say that they had always not only expressed but 'manifested the same feeling, and that they had acted up to their en g tgereents in regard to the suppression of that most abominable crime, the slave trade. The American Go vernment had by law made it an offence liable to the highest punishment ; and when the American Congress co-operated with the British Government in the suppres sion of the slave trade the American officers did their duty in the most efficient and amicable manner. (Hear.) There were many instances of the American officers preventing by their own action the abuse of their flag by Portuguese and Spanish bandits and slave dowers of all nations. He quite agreed with his noble friend the member for London, that it would be quite impossible to admit the naked prin ciple that hoisting a 11)g was to be taken as conclusi% e proof of the vessel's nationality. It was well knewn that ships carried the flags of every country to be used as sig nals, and if they were allowed to identify themselves' with whichever of these flags suited their purpose, c ommercial nations would soon fi n d th e e ff ec t i n the insecurity of their trade. He did not understand the Under -Secretary for Foreign Affivrs to admit the principle to that extent. His right hon. f r i en d th e late First Le: cl of the Admiralty Ir. formed him that his instructions had been sent to the cruisers on the coast of Cuba diff,ring from those in the circular of Lord Aberdeen. These instructions, he (Lord Palmerston) b e li eve d had been framed in co-operation with the American Government. Ile pres umed that if any fresh instructions were now sent, their purport would be communicated to the house. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had hoard ith great satisfaction the ohsef Tatiotia of the noble load the he most serious risk of misunderstanding in cages of member for London. Thebest answer to the violent speeches , vessels in such seas, whereas, on the coast of Africa, in the American Senate was to be found in the calm and dis where commerce is much more scattered, it was much passionate manner in which English statesmen expressed easier at once to ascertain the character of suspicious their opinion on the subject. Without conceding the vessels than where they were among a number of other principle to which the noble lord had alluded, and which vessels pursuing lawful commerce. It is therefore under had not been conceded, they (the Ministers) had written to the consiceration of the government whether it is not much more desirable at once to withdraw that the American Government telling them of the abuses of equadron ? The original plan of having a squadron their flag and the abuses that had been committed, and there was adopted on the suggestion of the American , asking them to confer on some mode by which those government, and neither they nor ourselves at that time . abuses might be corrected. They bad not, as yet, received saw the olj,ctions that it was liable to. The last an answer to that proposition, but he was induced to think question is whether any additional instructions have it would be received by the American government in the lately been sent out ? In reference to that question there spirit in which it had been sent. He believed that the gc are the instructiens referred to by the hon. member for vernment of the United States would feel convinced that Birmingham, which were issued during Lord Aberdeen's the interests of civilisation required that a united course government. My right hon. friend at the head of the Ad should be determined on. So far from being annoyed, he miralty found it necessary since he came into) rffice to g:ve should rejoice at hearing of American ships of war being iu even more stringent instructions for enjoining greater the waters of Cuba, as their crews would see what was caution and di, cretion on our cruisers on the coast ef Cuba. 'Whether there were any instructions in the mean taking place, and would act with the promptitude and time which gave rise to increased vigilance on the part good faith to which tho noble lcrd the member for Tiver of our cruisers, lam not disposed to say ; but I can say ton bad borne witness. Another reason he had for hoping for the present G orernment that our earliest efforts a satisfactory solution of the present difficulty was, that were directed to enjoining the greatest caution and in all great questions of policy as between the two nations, prudence on the part of those engagett. I can only fur- the government of the United States and her Majesty's ther say that, expressing as lam sure I do, not (rely the ministers were in complete accord. People in this country sentiments of every gentleman in the houie, but of the witnessed, without any jealousy, the expansion of the people of this country, that a more fatal thing to the civilisation and happiness of.. the world could not occur United States, nor did we find in the general tenor of t` an a misunderstanding between ourselves and the American policy any cause of distrust. And feeling that Uoit d States ; and I believe that meeting the case as there was, generally speaking, amongst the public men of we are disposed to do in this candid spirit, the Ameri- America a desire to cultivate friendly relations with the. can people, when they know the truth, I believe, I may 1 government and people of this country, they did not allow say, I confidently hope, that these differences will be any occasional ebullitions like those which had of late satisfactorily settled. (Cheers.) prevailed to induce them to believe that the established Mr. ROEBUCK said, that from the position he held policy would be disturbed. The matter now in dispute in the house he thought it advisable for him, very bum- was only of a very transient character, although there was bly, to express the views he entertained on this question. no doubt but that if it were treated in an irritable spirit He did not think the time of night was any obstacle to it might be more dangerous than its original character had his stating it. He thought that if properly understocd led people to expect. Mr. WARRE said that if our squadron were to be with by the American people it would lead them to different concleeion to that which they now entertained. a very drawn from the Cuban waters, and the Americans seat no other in its place, there would, he feared, be direct en- At the present time there were two peoples at the head couragement given to the slave trade. of the civilisation of the world, and they were going on Mr. FITZGERALD said that the withdrawal of our in their coarse towards civilising mankind ; they were squadron had not yet been decided upon; it was as yet identical in language, they had the same institutions, under consideration. and neatly the same government ; they were derived ASSISTANT BARRISTERS (IRELAND). from the same origin, and were, in fact, one nation. If Mr. I. BUTT asked the Attorney-General for Ireland in the course of these two peoples any obstruction arose, whether it was the intention of the Irish Government to it would be the business of those who wished well to man- bring in tory bill to make better provision for the retirement kind to bru-h away that oh sruction, and to keep there of assistant banisters, and whether any such measure had two peoples friends. He thoeght the statement of the been p re p ared either b y the p resent or late advisers of the hon. gentleman was in accordance with that sentiment. Irish Government ' H e had in the most conciliat o w Lord NAAS said it was felt that the interests of justice n manner stated the vies I suffered in Ireland from the retention of their seatsby as of our Government on this question. No one word had sistant barristers to au advanced age, in consequence of the fallen from his lips, either derogatory to this country or absence of any retiring allowance. If tine permitted, Go insulting to America. (Cheers.) He had shown through - vernment would introduce a bill to remedy the evil dui-- cut that he understood the delicate position in which we lag the present session. were placed, and be knew well the great, he might say, NETLEY HOSPITAL. the over w helming, duty that was now impressed on both Mr. TITE asked the Secretary of State for War when nations in this behalf. He was quite prepared to allow the reports of the commissioners on the hospital at Netley the great destinies of America ; he believed that they would be laid on the table of the house, and whether any 1 were intended to be the great leaders of mankind ; he steps had been taken to suspend the works, or any part believed that by Vie position of theirt'country, their in- thereof? The hon. member stated that although the ' healthiness of the site of . the hospital had been admitted, stitutious, and by their character which they had de of there were many faults in the design which required car rived frau us, they were intended to be the leaders . ti He hoped th work o a u r l r d an ir e t d. be proceeded mankind. But he ' , as not one of those who wished to r w e ith ° u u ntil a e proper plan had . been sw det ogate from the character or dignity of England, and Sir F. SMITH defended the design of the hospital, and he said the language used in the American congress on General PEEL said that the reports asked for would be this matter wis not worthy of gentlemen at the head of laid on the table in a week or ten days. With respect to a great nation. There had been more of the Ancient alterations in the design, the officer who hal charge of the Piste 1 and of Bo badil kind of talk than became a works Lad received orders to suspend that portion in which great nation. They had al ways assumed that England alteration was contemplated, until such alteration had desired to insult her, but the speech of the hon. gentle- been decided upon. . tnan to-night sheeted FUNDED DEBT BILL. that we did not desire to do any thing to give cif:nee to our brethren over the water, This bill was read a second tame. that we were desirous of maintaining our own dignity, SALE AND TRANSFER OF LAND (IRELAND) and that we did nst intend to wound their's at all. He BILL. The house went into committee on this bill. sail these few words, because he had read with great On the third clause, in which Government had inserted pale th sere i uente made by leading men in America. the appointment of a sherd judge ' He said ' hat we acting as a great people had only desired M r . MALINS objected, - considering that two would be to put d two that which we believed to be the great gist sufficient. on humanity, tied slave trade—(hear)—and that in order After a short dismission the clause was agreed to. to do this, we bad given instructions to our eahors. If, On clause 4, in tee heat of the moment, and in the desire to do their Mr. MALINS moved an amendment to leave out the duty, young men had been induced to go beyond the words at the end of the clause, making the qualification line, would a great people, a friendly people, have made 15 years' actual practice at the Irish bar ; his object being thet a reason for indulging in abuse of the country s to ta m n i i k n e t a h t e t ra i lification, as it was in England, 15 year,' m o u rds to as w th h ey in st . o t od wou a t! , taicte from which they supposed tease instructions bad ems tually e g xclude the r. ge T n h tlem w meted ? He believed that our force hal merely done country was indebted for the success ' o ) of t i his w. c .a o s u s rt—Mr. their (il, and that the blustering statements a n Tut the Hargrave— who never practised at the Irish bar, and he neater were not true. The honourable gentleman believed never held a brief in the English courts, having employed a cant phrase to signify that they were not been previous to his appointment a conveyancer. rue, but he would use a shorter phrase, and he hoped The SOLICITOR-GENERAL. Mr. WHITESIDE (who denied it would go across the water—they had told lies, and that the whole benefit of the measure was due to Mr. Har these lies had been told for the purpose simply of pan - grave, who was, however, in obedience to the general wish, denote to bed habits. He was sure that the English s p eciaely retained), and other members, o pp osed the people b wished to entertain kindly feelings towards Arne, am T h a n e d a rn m en em an en d i a w fte s r n s e o g m at e iv d e izussion, ice. Ile was sure that the people of England wished to Sir D. NORREYS thought they oueht to have the power employ their great po wer—for we possessed great power, of securing the services of the best lawyer they could get, though we did net b act of it —in the service of inankinte• whither he were English or Irish, and he proposed that (Hear.) If we wished to put down the slave trade, it was the clause should be altered for that purpose. He believed not that tie wished to hurt; anybody, but to do what we as a rule the lawyers of this country were deeper read than could for the benefit of Inanktal. We might have irju- those of Ireland, the reason being that in Ireland gentle dicious and generous eflicers, but he did not believe one- men of the legal profession practised g enerally in all the hal nor one-tenth of the stories that had been told, and branches of the law, while in En g l ,ndthey confined their he would not believe that Englishmen had done aught practice to separate branches. He moved that the last sentence' of the clause should be altered by inserting the that called on the Government to blame them for their words, " or Westminster ;" it would then read, " who esmdect, in the matter. lie was sure that the people of shall have pract i sed in the super i or courts of üblin or England in this matter would maintain that great posi- Westminster:" tion which they had over hell. They were riot to be Mr. WALPOLE suggested that the question should bo bullied out of their rights ; they did not wish to main- deferred until the report. taro power they ought not to have, and they did not de- After a few words from Mr4BA.G WELL, sire to eh anything to incur the hostility of America, or The committee divided— aoytbing to woun i the feelingi of our relatives over the For the amendiannt water; but while they woul I do ail things proper to Against it conciliate those on the other side of the Atlantic, they Majority --57 wool I take care of their own honour and dignity. The clause was then agreed to, as were clauses 5-12. Oa clause 13, Lord J. RUSSELL thought that there was no doubt Mr. HAMILTON stated that the court would be self that the house would give the credit due to the Govern- supporting, a tax being imposed upon the land sold through motif. (Hear.) With regard to the facts of the case, it the medium of the court. As it had been decided that appeared that there was 11111011 thet yet remained to be there were to be three judges, it was proposed that Mr. kn iwn. The instructions, as he understood M had not boon ertley should continue to receive 3,00 e/. a year, and the , other twojudges, 2.5)D1. a year calla CV hen year, Martley altered since 1811, except so far as this, that there had been ceased to hold the office, the judges would receive 2,susg. additional instructions advising caution. The original in- each. structions we r e issued by Lord Aberdeen, after a great Mr. W. WILLIAMS asked whether the officers of the court were to be pensioner] ? deal of consultation with persons fully competent to advice old Mr. WHITESIDE said that every ono of them would and among others Dr. Leshington, and those instructions be employed in the new court. The clause was agreed to. On chase 19, providing for the retiring allowances of the judges, 1 1 .dr. WILSON asked if they would be entitled to the allowance after a certain number of years' service. Mr. WHITESIDE could inform the hon. gentleman that, whatever might be the case in England, it. was not the practice for the judges to retire. (Laughter.) The clause was then agreed to. Clause 20 was expunged. Clauses 21 to 30 were agreed to. On clause 31, Mr. DOBBS proposed that 72 words instead of 90 should constitute the folio of the court. The committee divided-- For the amendment Against ajority —los Clause 31 was then agreed to. Ou clause 3 ~ Sir E. PERRY moved to insert the f-llowing words "And generally the examination as to all disputed facts shalt be according to the roles of common law." The SOLICITOR-GENERAL resisted the proposal, on ne ground that in many cases tie mode of proceed ing by :it - Davits: was preferable ; but power was given to employ viva voce examinations whenever it was thought proper. The words were thin negatived, and the clause was agreed to. - Mr. BUTT moved to omit clause 3S, which gave the judges of the court power to try is-ucs of fact. Those learned gentlemen had had no experience at nisi prise, and their time would be fully occupied by the proper duties of their office. Mr, WHITESIDE defended the clause on the ground of its similarity to a similar provision in the Probate Act. Mr. MILLER supported the clause. The power pro posed to be given was a most essential one. After some conversation, Toe amendment was negatived without a division, and Vie ,Luse agreed to. Oa clause 40, Mr. BUTT moved to add certain words to give an appeal to the full court from any ruling or order of a single judge. Such an appeal would be especially neceesary in new trial motions. Mr. WILITSE EDE could not adopt the amendment. The appeal to the Court of Chancery aas suffioieat. There would be no advantage in establishing an inter mediate appeal. Mr. Serg, ant DEASY opposed the amendment. If adopted it would only load to a waste of the judges' time and the parties' money. On clause 41, reguLting the proceeding in appeals, Mr. MALINS thought the time, thirty days, allowed for appealing was too short. He moved to extend the period to three months. After a conversation the amendment was adopted and the clause agreed to. Cltuse 47, after some discussion, was agreed to. Clauses 48 and 50 having been agreed to, The CIIAIRMAN reported progress. STANHOPE AND WA.LSINGFIAM RECTORIES BILL. This bill was read a third time and p asse d. COWLEY'S CHARITY BILL—HARVEY'S CHARITY BILL. These bills passed through countnitoe. BRISTOL MUNICIPAL CHARITIES BILL. This bill also paeecd through committee. PORTENDIC AND ALBREDA CONVENTION. On the motion of Sir E. BULWER LYTTON, leave was given to bring in a bill to remove doubts as to the opera ion of a convention between her Majsty and the Emperor of the Fronch relivive to Portendic and Al breaa. RAILWAYS ACT (IRELAND) CONTINUANCE. Lord NAAS obtained leave to bring. in a bill to con thine the Mil ways Act (Ireland) 1851, f4.r one year. The house adjourned at 20 minutes to one. [A DVERTISEMENT.]—HoIIo way's Pills an indisputable Remedy f , A- Inclig:2stion.—ln the remotest districts cf the 17i.ital Kingdom the renown of thf 8 3 Pills is daily, indeed hourly sustained. Mr. David Lewi,, of Llangtfelacb, seffirtd severely from indigestion, and o msequent severe pains in the stomach for six months. The neighbouring medical men failing to cure him, be at length had recourEe to Holloway's Pills, by tilt regular and przevering employment cf which all hi, distiesiing, and at times unbearable aches and pains were removed, and he is now perfectly cured.—Sold by all medicine vendors throughout the world ; at Professor Holloway's establishment - , 241, Strand, London ; and 80, Maiden-lane, New York ; by A. Stampa, Con e antinople; A. Glidicy, Smyrna; and E. Muir, Malta. Country Markets. LIVERPOOL, JUNE 18. Thom was again a very poor attendance to-day, and both wheat and flour were a very slow sale, at about Tuesday's prices. Oats and oatmeal neglected. Barley, beans, and peas the turn lower. Indian corn in small demand at 31s 9d to 35s for yellow, and 33s fid to 31s for white. THE STATE OF THE THAMES. Mr. Be D. MANGLES raid that when he a‘ked a question a few ni e hts ago on this subject, the noble lord (Lord J. Manner ) had told him the matter reeted with he Metropolitan Board of Werks ; when that body was first estabiiehed, he, no doubt in common with others, paid the greatest attention to their proceedings, but after a time he found they were of so futile and miserablo a character, that be ceased to tette the least intereet in them. The public papers had even ceased to report them, and left them to their own devices. He was in• formed that the plan this bard bad as yet devised to abate the existing nuisance was to discharge the whole sewage of London into the middle of the Thames, instead of at the ide-. As a proof of the practical wisdom of this body they were at that moment sitting in discharge of their funotioca—(a laugh) —for their meeting that mornirg the I,howiug notice of mwion bad been given by Mr. Wright :—" To ca'l attont.on to the polluted state ef the river, aeil to move that the board will, on a day t be appointed, proc: ed to inspect it in a steamer to he hired fer the purp ;se." When the whale community was nearly poisoned these gentlemen had only g u t as f ar as talking of inspection. If they went he hoped they would take a sufficient quantity of brandy with them. It was a great mistake to place a maqtrof such const quence in th h .nds of a municipal body. It was an imperial question, and they ought not to be ashamed is retrace their step.. This Tsai the greatest and the richest metrop ilia in the world, and was it possible they c •uld not succeed in free ing themselves from their ti:te 1 (A. laugh.) It was no joking matter ; if cholera was to break out in this hot weather, the mortality would be something dreadful. When he was a young man the Thames salmon was celebrated, but now there was not a salmon in the river, and all the fish were dying. They bad lately erected a noble mansion foe the' first gentleman in Engl ind, the risht hon, gentleman in the chair. It was now nearly finished, but would any hon. gentleman think it right or decent to ask him to reside in such an atino.ph- re I (Flew, heat). No gentleman would place his wont enemy there. They had spent three hundred millions on railroads, and was it to be said that they could not spend four or five on the river ? He begged to ask the Chief Commissioner of Works wbat steps he had taken, or proposed to twee, t, preserve the health of the members of the two houses of parliament from being destroyed by the ereseet pestilential condition of the river Thane P. Atlerman CUBITT, as a member of the B acrd of i o a t m t c h e e t m t . nv e T n h t e ed fa a ul s t e t w e e t : s w w i t h h i e p a ar w l parliament Hear,) , e ( ti El ca e b a ), Works, wish e d to offer a few observations in vindica tion Par le out. The appointed th e B oar d of Works to carry it schemelß oard prepared a p' an w hi ch was a good one if the was good. Tub plan was submitted to the Chief Commissioner of Work P, in whom a veto was vested by the act ; he naturally shrunk from the responsibility, and referred the matter to t wo engineers. They re ported against it, and the Chief Commissioner sent back the plan. The board then dire c t e d its engineersSubmitte to d° pre pare another plan, which was to the Chief C o mmissioner. He again shrank from the responsibi lity of a vote, and refer red the plan to thre e eng i neers. They considered that c a u s ly th er e ta ni s el b r ord li'l be w b a i s g e t enougho in crease,proposedeed carry of sewagetitteff a ci ty three tim es as large. Th e back t o report of the engineer s was sent the board. The estimate for the ve• five rk was or six millions, but the board were informed that it would be nearer ten or eleven, which the board would have to raise by a rate on the metropolitan district. With regard to the plan proposed by pare '•amen t be bad very great doubts as to its sinew.. If they were to send the 80 millions of gallons of water drawn from the Thames west of London, some 30 miles down, he feared the effect on the river in dry weather. The question then came, what was to be done ? He thought they ought to devise some plan by which every galley of eater would be re turned to the river as clear as it came fr on it. He bad no doubt such a p:au could be found. It would be fair enough to blame the Board ef Works for not having de vised a plan if they had been au'horised to consider the question at all. Within tholast few weeks a committee had been fitting cn the subject. A plan of Mr. Golds worthy Gurney had been laid before them which he (_% r. Cubitt) felt convinced would be a great aux liary to any .ch<ll-ne, although it wouti not do alone. Mr. WARREN would ir•JsraFe on the house for a f,w minutes. He bad given notice of his intention to call the attention of the house to the inability of the Metropoli tan Burd of Wo r k s , i n res p ec t o f p reven ti ng the sewage ut th e metropolis from flawing or Passir g into the River Thames in or near to the metropolis, but the hon. mem ber for Guildford had anticipated him. The right hon. barcntt cppnbite (Sir 13. Uati) had carried through Par- Van:lent the bill for the establishment of the Boar 4 of - - - WAKEFIELD-JUNE 18. There has been a steady demand for wheat at Friday's rates. The show was not large. Beans a dull sale. BO' ley also quiet. Oats and shelling as before. AVERAGES FOR THE WEEK ENDING JUNE 11, 1853. Wheat 1351 quarters, at 43s Old Barley lO ~ 30s o,i Oats lO ~ 303 6d Bears - It —s Od Peas — II —l3 01 EXETER-JUNE IE2. CORN.—Wheat, 5s 3d to 5s 6d ; barley, 4s to 4a 3a grinding do., OE Od to Os Od. Oats, 2s 6d to 2e 9 d . Beans, Os Od to 0 Od. Peas, 00s Od to 00s Od. FLOTIR.—Fino, 30s Od to 323 Od; seconds, 283 Od to 30 )d per sack. CATTLE. —There was a fair supply of bullocks. Beat beef, from 9s Od to lOs Od per score ; inferior, 7s to 85 per score; fat calves, 5d to Ed per lb ; barrenners, Os Od to 04 Md M. per score ; cows an calver, 121. to 181. Le ; butcher s' ,salves, Od to 7d per lb., rearing calves —s to e each; sheep, ewes and lambs, 21. 5s to 21. 15s per couple; ewes, Oa to ; wethers, 7d —d; lambs, 7d 1,070 per lb. Figs/ large size, —s to —s; second size, —s to ; slips, to —s; suckers, —s to —s. Rough fat, 4(1 per lb. Pork carcases from 8s Od to 94 Od per score. BRISTOL SUGAR-JUNE 18. The market has been very firm this week, with a stead/ demand both from refiners and grocers, but we are nut' able to quote any advance. The transactions since our last comprise about 1,000 hhds West India, 50) hhds Porto Rico, and 2,000 mats Mauritiu9, but we are nut aware that, any business has been done in floating cargoes. Refiners produce sells freely, and continues rices are fully supported for all descriptions. Rum dull, and prices are the turn lower. COURSE OF EXCHANGE.-YESTERDAY. • msterdam.. .• ••• 11 15 1 4 Gibraltar .• .• •• •• •• Ditto, three months 11 17% Leghorn 29 55 Stotterclam •• •• •• •• •• •. 11 17% Genoa . 25 40 Antwerp •• •• •• •• •• •• •• 25 32% Milan •• •• •• •• •• •• •• •• 41118301 S • • •• •• •• •• •• •• 25 32* Venice •. •• •• •• •• •• •• , lamburgh .• .• .• •• .• 13 7 Naples -. • ..... .• Altona •• •• •• •• •• •• •• •• • • Palermo •• •• •• •• Paris. ••• •• •• •• •• 25 7% Messina •• • ••• Do. three months 25 3234 Lisbon .. •• •• Id - arse:lles •• •• •• •• •• •• 25 324, Oporto •••••••••• •• • • •• Sourdeaux .. ;Rio Janeiro...... •• •-• 414 125% 126 Frankfort-on-Nialne.... 118% Berlin ••• •• 0* •• O. • • •• •• •• Ilkenos Ayre5.......... New York,6o days' sight -- Vienna•••••••••••• ••••• 10 27 frieste•••••••••••••••••• 10 28 Petersburg ............ 35% Madrid ••••••••••• •• canz .....•••••• ....•• 49% Barcelona ............ .. Seville.. Philadelphia •• ........ PRICES Of BULLION. Ptß OZi ' Foreign Gold In Bars .£3 17 9 Portugal Gold Coin .. 0 0 0 Mexican Dollars 0 0 0 New Dollsms 0 0 0 Silver In bars 0 0 0 RAILWAY TRAFFIO RETURNS. TRAFFIC RETURNS FOR THE WEEK. NAME OF RAILWAY. 1853. BBITISII. Aberdeen . •• •• •• •• •• . .... Belfast and Ballymena •• •••• •a •• •• •• Belfast and County D0wn............ Birkenhead, Lancashire, and Cheshire Bolton, Blackburn, and West York .... Bristol and Exeter •• ••...... •. .. Caledonian..•• •• •• •• •• • .• •• .• •• .. •• Chester and Holyhead..." •• ........ Cork, Blaeltrock, and Passage ...... Cork and Bandon.. •• .............. Dublin and Belfast J unction •• .. •... Dublin and Drogheda...... ......... Dublin and Kingstown .............. Dundee and Arbroath .............. Dundee, Perth, and Aberdeen Junction Dundalk antl Enni5ki110n............ East Anglian.... •• • ...... ••••• • • • • East Lancashire • • • • .. Eastern Counties and Norfolk.. • ... 1 Edinburgh and Glasgow .•• •• •• •• •• •• Edinburgh, Perth, - and Dundeo•..•.. Exeter and Crediton.. •..• •... •• .• •• Furness Railway •• ...• •• Glasgow, and Skth-Western........ Great Northern.• • .. ...... • • .... ~ Great Southern and Western (Ireland) Irish South Eastern • . • • •• • • .• • • •• • • Lancaster and Carlisle • • •• • • •• • • • • •• Lancashire and Yorkshire..• • ........ Leeds Northern .. • • • • • • • • • • • • • • •• Liverpool, Crosby, and Southport.... London and North Western ......... London and Blackv all • • • • .• • • • • .... London, Brighton, and South Coast.. London and South Western.•....... Londonderry and Enniskillen ........ Manchester, Buxton, and Matlock, &c. Manchester, Sheffield ,and Liucoinshirc Manchester and South J unction Maryport and Carlisle • . ............ Midland ...• .- •••• • • • ..... •••• •• • Midland Great Western (Irish) ...... Monklands •• • • • • •• •• •• •• •• •• •• •• Newcastle and Carlisle...• •• .. North British • • •••••••••• .• • • •• •• North Staffordshire • • .• ............ North-Western •• • . •• .• •• •• •• •• •• •• Scottish Central ............... ..... Scottish Midland Shrewsbury and Birmingham Shrewsbury and Chester Shropshire Union .. •••• •• •• •• .• •••• South Devon ..... •••• •••••• •••••••• South Ea5tern.................. .... South Wales .• •••• •• •... •• •••• -, .- South York., Doncaster, and Goole •• Taff Vale •• •• •• •• •• •• •• •• •• •• •• •• •• Ulster •• 01. •• •• •• •• •D •• •• •• •• •• Waterford end Limerick West Cornwall ....... Whitthavon Junction ........... I 2 684 York and ,Nowcastle, and Berwick & York and North Midland & Leeds.. FOREIGN. Dutch Rhenish •• •• •••••• •••••• •••• Lyons and Mediterranean .. •• .• .• Niontereau and Troyes .• .• .• •• .• Namur and Liege •• .• •••••••• •• Northern of France ••• • • • •• • • •• •• •• Orleans and Central .• 00000 •••••• •• Paris and Lyons .• ••••••„• •• • • •• .. Paris and Rouen. Paris and Strasburgh .• .• .• hotien and Havre •• ........•• • • . W CEt and North-West of France .... 2,754 38,5.1 - 58, 9 " ..., I -- 1 [AuVeRTIS to thos) wh ) remove tho greatest amount of human mis ry and promote in the highest degr ee , ' the su a of human happiness, the highest meed of praise an gratitude is due, it would be hard to point to any man s° eminently thserving of that meed as Mr. Du Ba rr y, the coverer of the now celebrated Revalenta Food. T. good effected by others, whether patriots, politicians, or Wil l not, may to problematical, may b e robablc, it is at „ e . events, matter of hypothesis. The god d one by Mr. .P' Barry is tangible, undoubtel, unquestionable. Also of Fiftf„ Thousand of his countrymen —men of title and rank, and In e `" of lowliness and obscurity; men of learning and :nen of fou l : plicity ; ministers of the gospel and men of the camp and tia,f armament : have, iu their several styles and forms, forward sn . to him their ardent expressions of thankfulness for resa le from pain and disease. In the folowing disorders, the aloe/. of this Food nas been found unvarying and unrivalled : dj pepsia (indigestion), constipation, functional, kr e gularm obstructions, acidity, cramps, spasms, fits, heartbarni diarrhoea, nerviousness, biliousness, affections of the liver an d kidneys, flatulency, distention, palpitation of the heart, nerve „4 headache, deafness, noises in the he a d and cars , g iddiness, P A between the shoulders ~nd in almo s t ever y p ar t o f the h 01; chronic inflammation and ulceration of th e s t omac h, erupti o d on the skin, seurvy,fever, scrofula, impurities, poverty of consumption (if not beyond human aid), dropsy, rheumatleV gout, influenza, grippe, nausea and vomiting during pregne:' after eating, or at sea, No .v spirits, spleen, general debility, paralysis, cough, asthma, tightness across the chest, pbler:. inquietude, sleeplessness, involuntary blushing, tremors `" like to society, unfitnes s f o r study, d e l us i on s, loss of tneroolt vertigo, blood to the head, exhaustions, melancholy, groun c ., less fear, indecision, wretchedness, thoughts of selfalest rfl iso 0 We shall not here refer individually to any' of cases of cure, but merely observe that the aggregate res l ! o certified and avouched, contain the most extensive, authen ti a and convincing body of evidence ever presented to thew n . , upon any subject whatever. Nothing in the medical ann 9j o , of ancient 0..7 modern times approaches it in ee s t pleteness, whilst its grand distingui s hi ng m ark is, o_4 the entire is susceptible of su c h easy a ppli c ation, a n o „ perfectly establishes Mr. Du Barry's titlo to be .., 0. e(1 sidered (in the language o f several of his eerr ee v" ~ dents) "the greatest livin g b ene f ac t or of his rn e "_:. Supported by testimonials from the following eelebrated F;; fessors of Chemistry: Dr. A. Ure; Dr. Shorland; Dr. Ile rr o j : Dr. Campbell ; Dr. Gattiker ;. Dr. Wilmer; Dr. 'og re , tar ti Lord Stuart de Decies; the Dowager Countess of Castles ll ,,,, r . ec table t r; ei . Major Gen. Thomas King, and many other resp sons, whose health has been restored by it, after al! ° ,..„ 0 . means of cure had failed. Suitably packed with fall In; ; tious, In canisters, lib. 2s, 9d.; 21b. 4s. 6d.; 5113 * re. 121 b. 225. The 121 b canisters are sent earflap free n— „ ceipt of Post-office order. Barry Da Barry, and C°• , , eo . Regent-street, London. Important Caution against th e fal dangers of spurious imitations.—The Vice-Chancellor obi William Page Wood granted an Injunction on the 10th go o Du 1854, against Alfred Hooper Ne v in for imitati n g Barry's Revalenta Arabica Focd." BIRHS. BRIsToW---On the rth inst . T at Bayswater, the 11 . ;fa 1.. Lieutenant-Colonel G. W. G. G. Bristow, of a da u g hL"' of . GurFriza— On Thursday, 17th inst., at 17, Ea tou-1" the wife of C. Darby Griffith, Esq., Kr-, of a .... 6° .f St. GLYN—On the 17th inst., at Stanmore-park, Leger Glyn, of a daughter. edr HARSTON—On the 16th inst., the wife of C owman Harston, lt.N., of a eon. MARRIAGES. MAUNSELL—HOOD —On the 17th inst., T B or• lase Maunsell, to Mary Isabella, Viscountess 1:100": SLADE - WARRE—On the 16th inst., at Bloon:Mlu'ir of merset the Rev. George Fitzclarence Slade FelWitsde, All Souls', Oxford, the younge.it son of Si t e oll " yr pry Bart.., to Eleanor Frances, eld.ist daug a x• -e Warre, Esq. Captain - . - BAKER—On the 15th inst , at 4 Mount Vern"' DEATHS. the Rev. John Baker, LL.B; retired 1.0 BN' char at aged 63. CIIRRI c.—On the 16th inst., at Grem-street, Grosvenor square, Francis Gore Currie, Esq. age'l 58. it. DIMSDALE—On the 17th inst., at lirorlpton, Thotita ur g nn. ro, eter , C. Dims-tale, eldest and only surviving- son of th° ''.- Baron Dimedale, cf Camfiold, Hertfordshir e. ....Tos° a &ads —Oa the 17th inst., at So uthwold, Francis Y‘ " Ellis, Commander R.N., aged 6 . LEA—On the 16th inst., at at 13, Lonsdale-square, ilajpg ton, Wm. Lea, Esq. SNOW —On the inst., at his resid ., ence , 16, Sokvilecile. street, Piccadillyl6th, John S now, M.D of ar orlelY , a g 45. - - -- --- - Na LONDON : Printed and Published by MURDO 1- '' an• of No. 112, Strand, Printer, at The Suss Otlioet °';' 112, Strand, in the Precinct of the S avoY, is the °el. 7 of faiddlesea, Saturdays Jane 19, OA 44 Receipts. 1857. 4,918 6,584 814 Miles opened. 1858. R. BE . Gracious COlCMajestyTE t a Her p ri e ril : Hoi st !ne 2 1st, on the ..'ekets may be 9n ire, and at t 144 3,:. 11 :: g I b S t T j 0 0 A , R e I c "MIVELY CICI "mnPanied by CIEIRISTY to _ lIRE c62 I I T ENT.— E C 6z_!slon owing r i — „,7auced an ezi ....!uerous patron a r neneing" at 2 THE -110 OPE: r titiE ROI le itt ARRNG and Frie A ndly TIIE RC wiii ROYAL t h nd at Z. Ws roils And et es Ashburnham 4 7 . 1 _1. a fashlonabl h ost attractive voncert. Italy e — ' 4 ;;The Saturdi er's and Sar D R ' K 3 , TIOTIBO rIITRES daily ( Miner past On, Open froze Zitur 3 NI kg 6„, .—Season T 1 NRWSP) 14t,„_ INAUGL 14 p B Elts will 1 e t o ettnasims' 1 itb k , nuntttee apt ttted for tho I 4tr 4 ubscription at D ,„„ NIVINDSnd 01 1 14;4 8.45 a 1. 4 ° „7 8 , from Pad 11g 'LOW and 1 urnin it 8 LEY ret and El Pan. LoNDO. (Ittzt.,c. IS MEETIN held tko . I' B upse on Tl 3 .0 Precisely', t k 1 : 171 4 1 1 ° O " n ee :e all 1614 day of jinn 62,6 12 1,07 2 15,112 19,0 22 70 2 ' 4,93 7 8,3 45 949 1,7 97 2 ,918 • 1,069 2,8 17 19,06 9 7,1 9 ! 2.917 1,45 1 1,17 3 69 7 448 3,526 ..eT `~ 26% 118 198% 941 i 183% 283 203 4 465 254 100 286 4 161 653 5% 183% 28914 60 17311 _94 3011( 171 108 N 1,032 2,261 6,928 12,282 5,455 271 297 1,166 1,674 1,977 604 1,059 854 6,319 25,605 5,612 3,010 7,263 19,741 6,L81 30,518 6,692 23,770 55 073 1,652 14,690 17,850 723 0,011 900 30,342 4,116 1,0 67 3,001 7,2b1 21.2 12 6,465 34 05 8 6:70 0 24,371 10.01 6 1,442 1.0 36 29,93 1 4,9.4