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retrr vould ,7tlll THE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY EVENING, JULY 81, 1858. ini! that in eQfp.)ol.4hinc! a. Sato Chnroli we had begun at the cvrorw Fed i•• To , tknn eaa=P4. GOVERNMENT OF INDIA (N.. 3) BILL. The consideration of the Loris' reasons for insisting upon certain amendments in this bill was then proceeded with. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, — When the Lords' amendments to the India B ;1 1 were brought down for consideration there were five object lone to those amendments. The Lords have considered the objections of the Commons, and have waved their opinions in a majority of the cases. Out three heads they have waved their opinions, and those threeTheads contain by far the most important of of the Commons. Bat they have invited us to reconsider onr objections on two points, and I wish to direct the consideration of the house to those point., feeling sure that the house will re consider their opinions in the same calm and considerate manner in which the Lords have expressed theirs. The first objection is not the one which has been read by the Clerk at the table, but I will advert to it at once, in order that I may at the same time tender the advice which I would humbly venture to offer them on the subject. The first objection is contained in clause 54, and it appears to to have originated in a misconception, into which it is not remarkable that we should have fallen, because the language of the amendment of the Lords is so obscure as to justify the interpretation which we bad put upon it. The clause in question deals with the circumstance of instructions being sent out to India commanding a foreign war, and it is here provided that, when an order to commence hostilities is sent to India, the fact of such order having been sent shall be communicated to Par liament within three months after the seeding of such order if Parliament be sitting ; and, if Parliament be not sitting, then within one month after the next meeting of Parliainent. There appeared to be some inconsist• ency in that language, and we proposed that one month should be inserted in both cases. But the amendment of the Lords intended that notice should be given of the fact within three months if Parliament should be sitting, and if it should not be sitting then within one month after the resumption of its deliberations. The amendment of the Lords, though obscurely ex pressed, was really wisely conceived, for, suppose the Government sent out meters to India to commence hoe- Uhl ies, a month would elapse before the Governor-Gene ral could receive them. By that time, under the clause as amended by the Commons, the orders would have been communicated to Parliament ; but on the arrival of the instructions in India the Governor-General might possibly be unprepared at the moment to obey them, and in that case he would have no time to make the Home Government acquainted with his position. The communication of the order for the commencement of hostilities, however, would thee sese been made to Par liament, and so the very power against which it was in tsn.:lee to wage war would become aware of the policy of this country before the Governor-General was in a situa tion to give effect to it. (Hoar, hear.) Therefore the Lords suggested that in any event the term of three months should be allowed to elapse before the communi cation of the order to Parliament, so as to admit of time being Riven for communication with the Governor• Gen era- I hope the house will consider that amendment, I which is now sent down in language that cannot be mis- Understood, and I venture humbly to recommend it as One calculated to promote the public advantage. I will now proceed to the consideration of the other amend ment of the Loris, which is one of great interest at the present moment. The interest of this amendment arises Principally from this circumstance, that to a certain de gree it has been supposed to affect the action of the com petitive principle in public appointments. If I might presume to give an opinion on that subject, I would say that I am a firm, though not an extravagant or head strong supporter of the competitive principle for public appointments. In the theory of that principle I entireiy concur ; but I know well that theory and practice do not always agree, and I have viewed the application of that principle with, I will not say great anxiety, but certainly with all that interest which attends the application of a novel principle to public affairs. As far as lam able to form an opinion, I think that principle in its practical application has been entirely successful. ([Tear ) It has come out of the ordeal of proof a pure and perfect wea pon— (bear, hear)--but still that is a principle very novel in its character and likely to have important results, and I cannot suppose that on a question of that novelty and magnitude there can be throughout the community a perfect identity of sympathy and opinion. lam not therefore at all surprised that, when the amendment of the Lords came down, we found an objection on their part to binding up the cernpetitive principle, whin i they fully recognise, in an Act r.f Parli a m en t. The House, however, decided, after deliberation, not to adopt the amendment of the Lerde, but to adhere to the clause in the bill which gave what may he called a Parliammeary title to employment in the civil service of India °teamed by unrestricted competitiou. There is another clause of a different character, in which that principle was to a certain decree involved, to which the Lords ebj , ct upon constitutional grounds, and to which I w•eild draw the attention of the House. It certainly does seem rather inconsistent that in the very bill which provides that her Majesty shall appoint to all military commissions We sl (wild, at the same time, insert a provi , ion which makes the appointments to a portion of these c moult mons entirely independent of the will ..f her Majesty (Hear.) In that light the L irda have viewed this pro vision, arid they are apprehensive that inconvenience may 'rise from a departure trona a constitutional prin• clP'e which has alway- prevailed in the mill ary service. Since 1353 the civil service of the East India Ciirupany has been open to unrestricted competition, and the civil patronage has been distribu ed entirely accor icg to the order of merit, although it was not provided in the Act of that year that such a proceeding should absolutely be followed. It was there only provided that there should be public examinations, according to the regulation- drawn up by the Secretary of State, and which should be approved by her Majesty in Council, and that a c py of those regulations thus approved should be laid before Parliament in order that Parliament might bi aware cf the existing regulation., with any alterations that might take place in them. Now, what the Lords object to in the 34th clause is not the principle of competition, or its being secured with respect to the scientific branches of the army as amply as it hue been secured with regard to the civil service since 1853, but to this being done in a manner which w ni l seem to violate the constitutional principle which hitherto has prevailed in all appointments to the military service. I am sure I do not mistake the feelings of the Ilense when I say there can be no desire on our part to trench upon the prerogatives of her Majesty. (Hear, hear.) Tnose prerogatives during her beneficent reign have been so discreetly and wisely exercised that there is a very general opinion throughout all classes of the community that their existence has been beneficial to our liiterties, and to the good government of the country. (Rear, bear.) But, in having to con: ider so large a question as the transfer of the government of India from the Cern pany to the Crown, we have been placed in a difficult and delicate position, which required on the part of both branches of the Legi-lature very judicious discrimina. Con. In this great work we have added greatly to the authority of her Majesty. We have invested her with new prerogatives, new privileges, and new powers ; but in doing that we have felt it our duty to insert new con ditions and regulations with respect to those new pri vileges and prerogatives which we should not have thought of introducing if we had had to deal with the ancient power belonging to the Crown. What has been the great difficulty which has prevented long before this the termination of that anomalous government of In Oa which was carried on by the Company ? It has been felt for nearly a century that it was a great anomaly that India should belong to the Engle-h, and yet eheuld not be directly governed by the Soy reign of England. But the difficulty of solving. this problem was that no one could devise any means by which we could deal with the vast patronage of India. It was a lw a ys said that it was more natural and would be more beneficial that the government of India should be carried on directly by the Sovereign of England ; but there has been, in the first place, a great apprehension that the power of the Crown would be dangerously increased by the po +Bess' of all the patronage which woul I result fromsuch agovern meat, and there has been, secondly, a great suspicion in this country, rememberin g that India was gained by the energies of th e middle elassesee(hear)—aud that these classes have long possessed the patronage which they had fairly won—(bear)—thas the proposed change could not be effected without injury to the legitimate interests of the bulk of the community, and a dangerous increase of the Power of the Crowe. (Hear.) It appears to me that that d ifficulty, which has baffled some of our wisest st a tesmen and the wisdom of m a ny P a rli a m e nt s , we h ave i n a grea t degree solved by the creation and development of that very "repetitive principle of which I have been speaking. (Rear.) Those who before had to consider this question had not the means or the machinery by which they could meet the difficulty. We have met them in the present i t e h s e ta p n a c t e r in na o g s e t ofeffi l ei t, e ( n li t a l , y a a s n r d , completely. Let us see how a I ath tnd lle classes after this great revolutio n has tale g en r. place, e of the transfer from the Company to the Crown, isaffet , d by the bill as it comes down from the Lords. Let us e s ' hethe in ac cotoplishing this great work we have been ee %%' mindfule r of the interests of those of our fellow-subtects who have such strong ckirns upon our consideration. The whole of the civil service, as the bill comes from the Lords, is secured entirely to those who deserve to obtai n and are cinalified to Po ssess these important offices; in other words, the whole of the civil administration of India is secured by a Parliamentary title to the great bulk of the community. If we look t o th e military portion of the pat ronage, w e shall find that it will be distributed by a body of men Who, in position, character, attainments, and connexions, resemble in a great measure the late Court of Directors, of a body which must consist in part of members of the late Court, and which as far as the nominated members are concerned will be composed of gentlemen of Indian experience and cennexioas ; so that the larger portion of the military patronage also will be tlisteibuted among the middle classes, through almost the same conduits as here tofore, except with this advantage, that the new distri butors will not be chalked ;in their action by that con .nrpaeoited constituency which exercised a baleful influence rtago.htelite Court of Directors. ;([Tear, hear.) But we have the ages military eight, in deference to the enlightened spirit of withdraw from the distribution of the Council commissions e ec h es which relate to the scientific ministration d be c,botatthe army. We have thought that they ought to by the same intellectual merit and which we would secure for the civil ad meats ministration, then an d d s it is now proposed by the amend the civil servic°r— that in addition to giving the whole of appointments :; it a li nd th e classes, so also corn greater portion of the military army should be obtained a parliamentary title to the middle ssions of a scientific character in the tenuity upon precisely similar by the same section of the cere ment of A tho Lords, srmilar conditions. By the . first drawn, constitutio s ' 48 compared with the clause as it was net e— n sesese which we ought to respect are more completely observed, but the same advantages are secured. Unler these circnnietances, I treat the 'armee will confider withont prejudicethis particuler emendment of the other branch of the Legislature, will, upon reflection, be of opinion that it is an amend rneut made in no spirit ef hos tility to that application of the ce npetitive principle to the scientific branch- s of the army which we seek to maintain, er dictated by any other feeling than a respect to censtitu tionsl usages, and will be pi epared, in thesame spiritof ciliation and reciprocal respect which tins attended these discussion, to accept alterations insertat by the Lords. Let , 00 impress npon the house one consideration which ought, not to be absent from our minds in concluding our labours upon this important question. There has rarely been a subject of le g islation more important than the one with which we have dealt in this sess'on respect ing the Home Government of ladle. Let the house re collect that for upwards of 70 years this question has been, at intervals, the subject of parliamentary discus sion—that it has given rice to the greatest acerbities of feeling and prolonged acrimony of political sentiments; that it convu!sed Cabinets, dissolved Parliaments, and that finally it has been recognised by the country as one of those knots that no ingenuity and no impartiality could ever untie. I claim no merit for the Government in having brought this matter to some satisfactory conclusion. I claim some merit for Parliament and some for the House of Commons ; but I claim the chief merit for the more enlightened spirit of the times in which we live, for the diffused education of the country where we have the hap piness to be fellow-citizens, and the rising sense of value which we all of us attribute to intellectual acquirements, and our recognition of them as a proper qualification for admission to civil service. This spirit has assisted us in bringing this bill to its present state. It is, I think, only surprising that there have not been greater differences of opinion between the two houses and among ourselves in this house; but what I would impress on the House of Commons is this—the great desirability there is that this legislation should be brought to a conclusion without leav ing on any side and in any quarter, in an• state or condi tion of this country, any feeling of irritation or jealousy. (Hear, hear.) It is impossible that the middle cl seas, whose claims have been urged so freely, fairly, and con etantly in this house and in other places—it is impossible that the great body of the community can for a moment feel that their claims have not been regarded. We have effected this change, if the house to-night consents to this fioal step ; and so far as the pat' onage of the great empire of India—won, I freely admit by the energies of the middle classes —is concerned, the great bulk will be obtained and enjoyed by those middle casses, not only with the cer tainty which they enjoyed in old days, but with far more honour, and by a process infinitely more beneficial. (Hear, hear.) Let not, therefore, the other house think that in coming to what I may call a happy conclusion, we obtained that result by any disregard in this house of the fair prerogatives of the Crown. lam sure that those prero gatives are duly estimated, and will be, if necessary, pro perly protected in this house, and let us, by acceding to this suggestion of the Lords, conclude our Tabours with this conviction, that we have, after all our pains, esta blished, on the whole, a home Government for India adapted to the circumstances with which it will have to deal, and have at the same time effected this ob ject without creating jealousy, suspicion s er discetie'• c' in any portion of the community over v leer; ear Majesty reigns. (Hear.) I trust 11'.0 LD:I,6 will, therefore, consent to the Amend.LL,L, - , wince the Lards have proposed to the clause ; and Ic in only say, on the part of the Go vernment, that in making that recommendation we do it with the full and frank int , ntion of establishing, with re spect to the scientific branches, that wise and beneficial competition which will prevail in the civil service of India. It will be ono of the first duties of my noble friend, if the house accedes to this proposition, to draw up regulations which will rule the examinations in question, and which, when approved by her Majesty in Council, will be laid on the table of the house. They will then be open to the criticism and vigilance of the house, and whenever any alterations are made they will likewise belannounced to the house. We shall then have tho satisfaction of having esta blished the competitive principle by Act of Parliament throughout the whole civil service of India • or having secured to the great body of the community the free enjoy ment of military patronage, by its distribution_through a council sympathising with thorn ; and of having at the Caine time secured the competitive principle even in the scientific branches of the army, and that in a manner which no one can say has attacked or weakened any prer gative or right of any person in this country, from the Sovereign on her throne to the humblest of her subjects. (Hear.) The right hon. gentleman concluded by moving that the house do not insist on its disagreement with the amend ment made by the Lords. Mr. ROEBUCK said that the right hon. gentleman had put the question on an unfair footing. The service in India consisted of three parts—viz., the civil ; then the Engineers and Artillery ; and, lastly, the army. For the two first the competitive system was very properly to baintroduced, bat by the alteration made inthe House of Lords it was proposed that the rest of the army should be appointed in another way. (Cries of "No! ") He wanted to know why, if in selecting persons for the two most onerous and ~difficult branches of the service in India they applied to the principle of competition, they should not apply to the same principle in reference to the third branch ? The objection was that by so doing they would interfere with the prero- ' gatives of the Crown, but was there not as much inter ference with the prerogatives of the Crown by establishing competition for the first two branches of the servicolie had mentioned ? If there bad been difficulty heretofore in changing the Government of India, because great danger was apprehended from throwing a large amount of patron age into the I-ands of the Crown, how could that danger he so well removed as by throwing open to competition all branches of service in India ? That house hal much better apply itself, not to arranging patronage between the aris tocracy and mid Ile classes, but toobtaining a good instru ment by throwing open the whole of those branches of the service to a real competition. The proper course would to throw open the competition to every one who chose to place his name upon the register, and if there were 10 vacancies and 1,000 rs d da - es the whole 1.000 candi , tates ought to undergo examination. If thi, pr.nciple were applied to India it would have greater effect in doing away with the patronage of the Crown, without endangering the equilibrium of the Government, than any measure that could be adopted. He contended, therefore, that the house ought to insist upon perfect, open, and complete competition for ledi in appointments. (Hear, hear.) Sir H. Ree wLINSON observo.l that the only question haferti the house was with reference to the competition f.-r the scientific services. (Hear.) Ile did not oppose the motion that the house should agree with the Lords' amend ment, but he thought the nature of the clause had been entirely misunderstood when it was supposed to affect the Queen's prerogative. It must be remembered that the system of appointments in the Indian army differed entirely from that in the Royal army. Her Msjesty never did nominate directly—and it was not proposed toe this bill that she should nominate directly—to any branch of the *alien army. Her Majesty merely appointed ou the recommendation of the Secretary of State, and could it make any difference whether that recommendation was the result of competition or of private patronage ? If officers of the artillery and engineers were not to obtain appointments by competition they would obtain them in the first instance by the nomination of members of Coun cil, some of whom would not owe their position to the Secretary of State or to the Crown, but to the votes of the Court of Directors. So far as the prerogative was concerned, it seemed to him that there could be no differ ence between recommendations which were the result of competitions and recommendations which were the result of private patronage. The 31th clause did nat provide for an exclusive competition, for a sentence in the civil ser vice clause was designedly omitted from the clause relat ing to the scientific branches, in order that the establish ment at Addiscombe might—if it were thought advisable by the Secretary of State —be maintained. The object was to secure a double competition, the open competition proposed by the claese, and the limited competition of Addiscombe, The system of competition had already been successfully adopted in the civil service. It was now pro posed that the same experiment should be tried iu the case of tho artillery and engineers, and ho entertained a confident belief that it would ho equally successful in those branches of the service. He thought it desirable, however, that the establishment at Addiscombe should be kept up, for whether the corspetition was thrown entirely open, or the limited competition of Addiscombe was re tained, the candidates for the scientific branches of the service would be drawn from the same class as at present. Sir DE LACY EVANS said the question under discus sion seemed to become more and more complicated, for it now appealed that there had been some private under standing that there was not to be an open competi tion, but that A rdiscombe was to have its chance, and that those candidates who proved their competency would not necessarily receive appointments. No inti mation of such an arrangement had, as far as ha was aware, been given by any member of her Ma jesty's Government, and, notwithstanding the very able and comprehensive speech of the Chancellor of the Exche quer, he felt bound—more so, indeed, than he had felt him self previously--to vote for disagreeing with the Lords' amendment. He entirely concurred with the opinion of the hon. member (air H. Rawliuson) as to the beneficial re sults which might be anticipated from competitive exami nations. This question had very j ustly during the present discussion bean connected with the au j set of patronage, about which not a word had been said in the other house. where the question had bean treated only as affecting the prerogative ; but one of his main objects, in common with many other hon. members, was to withdraw from the hands of the Minister a great portion of the patronage which this bill would place at the disposal of the Geyer° meat. (Hear.) He thought also that the effect of the competitive system opals the military information of the country ought nut to be lost sight of in considering this question. Tue noble mein oer fur Tiverton (Lord Palmerston) had said on a for mer occasion that we wore a warlike nation without being a military natiou, and it was to bo regretted that, the people did not pos-ess such au amount of military informa tion as would be most useful in the defence of this country and its possessions against foreign Powers. It had been state t by two eminent members of that house, one of them the present Lerd Chancellor of Ireland, who had strongly ad vomited the adoption of the competitive system, that its effect was t give a stimulus to scholastic education throughout the country. The noble lord at the head of the Government (Lord Derby) had spoken on this subject in another place in a most conciliatory tone, but all the noble lords who had exoressed their opinions had not followed his example. One of those noble lords (Lord Campbell) —one of the highest dignitaries of the law—had accused that house of having lost its senses on this suhject. (" Hear" and a laugh.) That noble lord had sail that the House of Commons had gone wild, anti he added that the House of Commons ought to be suljected—{The hon. and gallant member was stopped by a call of • Order" from the Speaker, in enforcement of the rule which prohibits any hon. member from quosing debates in the other house.] He must say he thought the noble and learned lord had done himself in justice, for he believed the profession iu which that noble lord had gained such distiuguished honour was more ex posed to the principle of competition than perhaps any otborintis country. Not a day passed ire which persons did not go through competitive examinations i n ord er t o their being learned lord saidcalled as barristers. (H ear .) Th e no bl e an d he was in favour of discriminative exa minations, though what he meant by that term the noble and learned lord did net very clearly explain. (Hear.) A noble earl, in another lace, contended that the introduc tion of a system of competitive i' tl, examinations would pro duce ffi s ee s; a c i ia. a l t r h e e vo a l r u m ti y on w - gentlemen and excluded appointment s en t v f v. front t h h e e s o e u r -- 1 vice, and that in future the a fined to the seas of rich grocers ' (Hear.) Those statements were, ivari anceclass. with the facts which had eon brought' forward a' y the present Lord Chancellor of Ireland whim be w r a ' s va a r na bar of that house. He showed the system of ceurpotitTO examination in Ireland bad werked in a totally contrary direction—that 93 out of 100 of the young men examined belonged to the most respectable classes of sse'ea o the sons of gentlemen and men of odes:ohm. (iie ' si.) He therefore regarded tte , esonmeet on the other side on this subject PS elno e ether unworthy of notice. (Ilear.) Hehad the 'tritest confidence in the noble lord now at the h oe d o f the Board of C o nt ro l ; but the noble lord had no perma nent tenure of office, and then he could not forget that while the members of the Government in that House were in favour of core:setit;ve, examination, and oily opposed a technical diffieults to its losing enforced by Act of Perlia went, the head of the Goverdinent in the other house poke of the principle of competition as being "on its trial," and thought it would be " highly inje dicious to tie up the loaeds of the Executive Govern ment.," and oblige them to take the ph-sons who had sustained the best examinations. (Hear, hoar ) It did net, therefore, appear to be in the contemplation of the noble earl t o give appointments as a matter of course to the:es who sustained the best examinations (Hear, hear.) He thought the competitive principle the best security that could he adopted for securing the efficiency of the services in the Indian army, and therefore he hoped they would disagree with the Lords' amendment. (Hear.) Lord PALMERSTON—I am one of those who are in favour of the principle of appointments by competitive examination. I think it is a great improvement of recent times, bnt at the same time it is not universally applicable. (Hear.) With regard to the civil service I think it is an excellent system, provided always that the standard of examination is not too high—(hear, hear)—and that per sons are not expected to be full of more knowledge than is necessary as a test of their capaity for the service. (Hear.) My opinion is that it is also a good system for the officers of the scientific branches of the army, because in 'nerd to them hi g h attainments are of the first importance. (Hear.) At the same time, it is right to admit that the e application of the system to the scientific branches is but of recent standing, and therefore those who entertain a different opinion from me may fairly be entitled to require a somewhat longer experience of the practical result of the a sy n s d t e g na 3 la t n h r fri has nd ywehto has j us b t t e a a i t n e d d o . w n ( iTr a i r glit in s y a y h that the application of the system of competitive examina tion to the scientific branches of the British army has been perfectly satisfactory, and especially in that country of v d e i r s y t iand mon which wh o are hasa c w o h n i t e r h i b h u e t e i d s S a o credit to the profession with which they era connected. (Hear.) I disagree, however, with the hon. and learned largengtlis distinguished number o f ornament, yo ung member for Sheffield when he speaks of the applicability of competitive examinations for officers of the line. (Hear.) The test of learning which you would apply to a young man who is a candidate for a commission would be no necessary test of his capacity for the service in which he is to be engaged. (Hear.) It would be just as if you wished to find out whether or not a man was an excellent pugilist, and the test you applied was whether he could run fast. (A. laugh.) The test is not at all of the kind which would prove whether the man was capable of discharging tie duties which he ha l to perform. (Hear.) My opinion, then, is that the house is right in maintain ing for the civil service of India the system of competitive examinations which has now been established for several years. I am also of opinion that it would be expedient to establish the same system for the scientific branches of the Indian army which you have ,steblislisil for Vas ssiontitic branches of the general army. (riaar, Leer.) So far as I understand the nertesfioe we are now called on to deter mine, it is eimply one as to the manner in which the com petitive examination is to be adopted. (Hear.) I think there is great force in the argument that it would be a de parture from the ordinary principles of the constitution if we were to pass an act of Parliament which should render it imperative cn - the Sovereign to give commissions to par ticular individuals. (Hear, hear.) I think the regulations which shall establish a competitive examination for the scientific branches of the Indian army ought to be based on orders in Council coming from the Royal authority, and not be a system imposed by a stanline law. (Hear.) If, therefore, I am to understand from the Government that they are prepared to pledge themselves that they will issue an order in Council establishing competitive examinations for the scientific branches of the Indian army, I should prefer that mode of accomplishing the object to having it done by act of Parliament. (Hear.) We have now arrived at the moment wh n this bill must pass into a law. We have all of us in the course of the discussions that have taken place been compelled to surrender opinions which wo have entertained, and the result will be a general com promise on the part cf all those who have taken part in carrying forward the measure, (Hear, hear.) As the Lords have adopted almost all the amendments we made, I am inclined to think that it would be graceful on our part to yield to them upon this question, (Hear, hear) I think, also, that the method of proceeding by order in Council would be more in accordance with the general principles of the constitution than if we were to enforce the principles we are in favour of by an act of Parliament. (Hear, hear.) Mr. WHITE said there was an essential difference be tween the position of the army of India and the army of this country. In this country we passed a Mutiny Act and also voted the supplies ; but we passed no Mutiny Act for India, and could not withhold the supplies for their army. He was not prepared to give the Crown se much power as was here proposed without imposing a check of some kind or other. (Hear, hear.) He thought that this house would do well to insist upon their original bill, and as nobody who was right could be ridiculous, he should, if he stood alone, divide the house upon the subject. (Hear.) Col. SYKES said that if, as he understood was the case, the Government intended to adhere in the army to the practice adopted in the Queen's army- -if cadets intended for the scientific branches were to compete for entry into a military college—he should vote with the noble lord (Stanley) on this question. (Hear.) Sir J. GRAHAM—Before the President of the Council addresses the house it will perhaps be convenient for him to hear the opinion of different members, who, like myself, have taken some little interest in the subject now under discussion. I entirely agree with the Chancellor of the Exchequer that this question of Indian patronage has really been the obstacle certainly for half a century, to the transfer of the government of India from the Company to the Crown. It has really been at the root of the anomaly which has continued to the present time the government of that mighty empire in the hands of a commercial body. I have always felt the right solution of that question to to be one of immense constitutional difficulty ; and among other reasons which swayed me throughout this session, in an earnest desire for the postponement of the decision upon the change of government, was the difficulty which I felt respecting the future distribution of' this Indian pat onago. Now, I am bound to say that in my humble judgment the bill before us, as it went up from the Com mons to the Lords, (lid in a very fair manner solve the dif ficulty in the distribution of patronage which it provided. (Rear, hear.) To her Majesty directly was given by the 29th clause of this bill a great accession of patronage. The Govercor-General of India, the Governors of the Pre sidencies, the fourth member of the Council of India, and the Advocate-General—all these officers are henceforth to be appointed by her Majesty under warrant and by her sign manual. It placed these offices at the disposal of her Majesty, acting by her constitutional advisers, whereas heretoicra none of these appointments were made by the Crown; and with respect, I think, only to ono of them, that of the Governor-General (I am not quite sure as to the Governors of the Presidencies), the power of veto only was vested in her Majesty. Then, with respect to the civil patronage, as has been already stated, the arrangement which has prevailed for three years under an order in Councl—namely, that the civil service shall be open to the free competition of all classes- has now been confirmed dared irrevocable except by a repeal of this ac t duly by a clause assented to by both houses, and is thus ren sanctioned by the Legislature. Now, such a concession appears to me a most importantone. It recognises fur the first time in an act of Parliament the principle of open competition with reference to a great branch of th public service. Much, therefore, as it appears to me, is gained by the measure as it stands. But then comes the consti tutional questicn. By tying up that, or other portions of the patronage, do we infringe the prerogative ? The House of Lords in their reasons seem to assert that such an in fringement is involved in the clause, as we sent it up to them, respecting a portion of the Indian patronage. Now, I cannot draw that fine distinction between tho military patronage and other large portions of the civil patronage. (Hear, hear.) In the very chose which gives to her Ma jesty the great appointments I have mentioned, those of the Gov.rnor-General and the Governors of tire Presiden cies, there is a special reservation of another very im portant branch of patronage relating to the councils of the Governors of the different presidencies ; and there is a statutable assignment of the patronage for ever. not to her Majesty, but to the Secretary of State in Council, with the concurrence of a majority of his council. The clause does-not say that her Majesty's pleasure shall be taken. It does not even provide that these appointments shall take place under the sign manual. As I read the clause these appointments are abso lutely vested in the Secretary of State and a majority of his council. Here, then, is a very important branch of patronage not to be exercised by the Crown ; and with re spect to the junior members of the civil service I have already stated that these appointments are, by the consent of the House of Loris, henceforth to be given to those who upon an examination shell stand first in point of merit. The constitutional objection, therefore, whatever nary be its force, appears to rue to apply equally to both these pro vision,. (Hear.) Now, it is very remarkable that in the bill of the noble lord (Palmerston) it was provided that there should be an attestation in respect to the European troops to be furnished by her Majesty in Council. The bill sent up to the Lords provides no such attestation, and does not deal in the slightest degree with the transfer to the Crown of the attesting power wish respect to the European por tion of the Indian army. Clause 4 ) in the noble for ' II bill declared that all Indian officers henceforth should be the officers of her Majesty. There is no such declaration in the bill which we seat up to the other house. We have hitherto studiously reserved the question o the Indian army. It was so stated by the noble lord (Stanley), who, in answer to the right hoe. gentleman (Hr. V. Smith), said that the whole question of the Indian army was referred to a com mission here, and partly also to a commission in India, and that the subject s connecte d w i th the reorganisation of that army were not to be mixed up with the question :at present under discussion. Now, clause 33 of this bill, as we sent it up to the Lards, has drawn quiterightly the distinction be tween the military and the civil services. It has most guardefily recognised to a certain extent the authority of the Crown, yet without making a complete concession of the whole appointments to the Indian army. With regard to the civil service it is distinctly provided that those per sons only, without exception, who sh a ll succee d i n open Coln pAition shall be appointed; and as to the military ser vice, clause 13 enacts that the names of all persons norni , ne ed in the manner which the bill provides shall be sub mitted and recommended to her Majesty. But there is a reservation as to the scientific branches —the artillery and engineers ; and in the clause immediately following that to which I have adverted, even with respect to them, as we sea it up to the Lords, persons who receive the certificate of superior merit are to be recommended for these appoint ments ; clearly, therefore, recognising the general control ling power of the Crown—not going the length as regards the military which we went as regards the civil service— but adhering to the principle that open competition in the Indian army, as in her Majesty's army in the scientific branches, ought to be the rule of appointineet. (Fear, hoer •) ,Now, it only remains to consider the question as between an Order in Council and the statute. If I could bring myself to believe that the application of the statute to the Indian araiy, in which her Majesty's authority is not now supreme was a dangerous i n f r i ngement of the prerogative, nothing would induce nse to vote in favour of that principle. It appears to me, however, that there is no such infraction of this prerogative. But we aro told that we in this house are enamoured of this principle of open competition, and that it may with advantage be ap plied to ourselves. (A laugh.) Now, Ido not wish to handy any jeers and gibes of th at kind with the 0'.1.,er House of Parliament. (Hear.) 'P.: do SJ would conduce neither to the advanto set c,l house nor be quite consistent with tlt peee„ interests. (Hear.) I am, however, entitled to ask, where is hereditary wisdom to be found? (Hear, and a laugh.) In what consists the justice of the taunt that India must henceforth be governed by gentlemen to the exclusion of the middle classes—a gentleman being defined to be something between a peer of Parliament and those who buy and sell. (Hear, and a laugh.) Is this, I would ask, the only argument that can b 3 advanced against the system of competitive examinations? (Cheers.) Who, let me ask, founded—who won our Indian emphe ? (Hee, , hear.) Those Who bought and sold. (Cheers.) Who extended it? Those who bought and sold. (Hear, hear.) Who now transfer that empire to the Crown? Those who bought and sold— a company of merchants—merchants, for sooth, whose sons are now not thought worthy to have even inferior offices in India committed to their hands. (Cheers.) But are not the sons of tho e who buy and sell entitled to the appellation of gentlemen ? (Hear, hear.) Definitions are dangerous, but I should, nevertheless, like to know what it is that constitutes a gentleman. (Hear, hsar.) Why, Sir, it appears to me that if a man be im bued with sound Christian principles, if he have received an enlightened and liberal education, if he be honest, and virtuous, and honourable— it appears to me ; I say, that• such a man as that is entitled to the appellation. (Cheers.) And who will tell me that among the sons of those who buy and sell may net be found men possessing literary attainments and a refinement of mind which places them in a position to bear comparison with the highest born gentleman in India? (Hear, hear.) Who, let me ask, were the conqu erors o f th a t coun t r y ? From what class have they sprung? Who was Clive? (Hear, hear.) The son of a yeoman. Who was Munro ? The son of a Glas gow merchant. (Hear, hear.) Who was Malcolm? The son of a sheep farmer upon the Scotch borders : Criribus parvis et paupere terrft Minus in imperium magnum." (Cheers.) These, Sir, are the men who have won for us our Indian empire—(cheers)—and I entertain no fear that the sons of those who buy and sell, and who enter the Indian service by means of this principle of open c , mpetition, will fail to maintain a high position in our army, or that they will do anything to dishonour the English eame. (Hear ) I have none of those fears therefore with respect to the adoption of this principle which are in some quarters enter. tamed. I believe it gives a greater security to the appoint ment of efficient men than a mere system of patronage would afford.. (Hear, hear.) Patronage is liable to be con stantly nbia-eil for political purposes. It operates in many instances in cases in which the person who makes the ap pointment has little cr no knowledge of the person upon whom the appointment is conferred. (Hear, hear.) Open competition on the cont rar e, b r i ngs th e man b e f ore y ou . (Hear. hear.) And what are his claims when he does pre sent hires lf ? In the first place, he brings with him the assurance that he is a man of industrious habits. (Hear.) He also affords some guarantee that he is a man of great self-control; that his life has been spent in virtuous pur suits, inasmuch as his attainments point out a preference for mentel as contrasted with sensual enjoyment.. ( beer, hear.) Then, what is the ennobling spirit of his life ? Ambition. A desire for honourable fame. (Hear.) What are the domestic virtues which he exhibits? A desire to win the favour and approbation of his friends, and even tually to contribute to the support of his aged parents. (Hear, bear.) Such are the moral qualities w'rieli he principle of open competition will sseure, and upon those groands I for one rr f,t that prieciple deliberately to pa tronage with all its corrupting influences. (Cheers.) I cannot believe that I am violating any public duty, or in fringing any prerogative of the Cro wr, in advocating tLe extension to a small portion of the appointments in the military service in India of a principle which Parliament has consented to apply to the whole of the civil service in that country. I cannot sea the fine-drawn distinction which appears to be made between t he two services; and if I am driven to a division, which I trust will not be the case, I shall feel compelled to record my vote against the amendment which has been introduce 1 into this clause in the other House of Parliament. (Hear, hear.) I wish to pay no fine compliment to the noble lord the President of the Board of Control. He has told us in emphatic terms that he would rather resign his office to-morrow than take any step which, in his Conscience and judgment., he be lieved to be subversive of the principle for which he, in common with myself, has contended. In the honour of the noble lord I place the most implicit reliance. (Hoar, hear.) I am perfectly willing to trust in him, but I must be permitted to say that I do not think he now knows all the difficulties with which this amendment is surrounded, I feel confidant, however, that he would not give to it his supp or t if h e were no t o f opinion that, consistently with his duty, he could uphold the principle which I advocate. lam also prepared to admit that there is this difference between the application of the principle cf open competition to the civil and its extension to the military service. In the case of the for mer you have experience to guide you; while in the case of the latter you do not as yet possess that salutary advan tage. If, moreover, we leave this important question for the present, subject to be dealt with by an Order in Council, experience will soon come to our assistance and tell us whether it be or be not desirable to fix by means of a legis lative enactment the footing upon which it is for the future to stand. Having made these observations, I beg again to repeat my adherence to the principle of unrestricted com petition, and if, therefore, the house should go to a divi sion, it will be my duty to vote against the amendment to which the noble lord asks us to assent. (Cheers.) Lord STANLEY—I concur with the right hon, gentle man in every word which he has said with respect to the advantages of a system of open competition as opposed to the system of patronage. I agree with him, moreover, in the comments which by implication he has made upon the remarks to which expression has been given elsewhere upon this subject, an I I am quite willing to repeat this evening to the house the pledge which a few days ago I ventured to give them—namely, that I would support no proposi tion which in my judgment and belief was hostile to the principle of open and unrestricted competition. (Hear, hear.) What we have now to consider, however, is whe ther, owing to the amendment which has been introduced into this clause, that principle is or is not really in danger. We are not at present dealing with appointments in the civil service, or in the non-scientific branches of the army. We are dealing exclusively with what are known as the scientific branches of the military service —namely, the artil ery and engineers. The question which we have to consider, however, is not whether the system of open com petition should be applied in the case of admissions to these two branches of the service. To its adoption in those in stances the Government has given its assent. The framing of the order in Council by which those admissions aro to be regulated will necessarily rest with myself, and neither I nor the GOveigimeiit'of which lam a member could conic to this house and say that we had fulfilled our pledges if that order in Connell wore riot to sanction the adoption of this principle of open competition in its fullest extent. ([fear.) Well, then, comet:the question, in what consists the differ ence, practically speaking, between the clause as amended by the Other house of Parliament and as it stood when we sent it up to that house ? Merely in the circumstance that in the latter case the guarantee—l use the word advisedly —for the maintenance of the principle of free competition was supposed to be contained in the act itself, whereas, if the amendment of the House of Lords be adopted, it will rest upon the security of an order in Council. Now, I say that this supposed guarantee appeared to be, rather than was, actually embodied in the clause as it left the House of Commons. The clause then provided that candidates " who might be found entitled, &c., might be recom mended for appointments according to the order of their proficiency. " Recommended ;" yes, but not appointed. (Hear, hear.) There was nothing in the clause as it origin ally stood to render it compulsory on the Crown to make those appointments. All that it made imperative was that the Minister for India should "recommend" to the Crown those who had passed one of these competitive examinations in the order of their success. (Hear, hear.) The clause, therefore, a ff or d e d no legal guarantee that they would re ceive the appointments Co which they had become entitled. It, no doubt, gave you a moral guarantee upon the subject, as d that guarantee, I contend, the clause as amended con tains. (Hear, bear.) For my own part I have great faith in the system of unrestricted competition. It is of compa ratively recent origin, but has Eneadily made its way. Every year brings over to it some new converts from the ranks of those by whom it was at first opposed. (Hear.) It will, I believe, prove itself eventually to be stronger than all Governments and all Parliaments—superior, in short, to all the influences which can be brought to bear against it. Holding that belief I am the loss solicitous about the precise degree of cogency which may be supposed to belong to the machinery by which this system is pro posed to bo carried into effect. I would now ask the house to consider what has been done by the supporters of the competitive principle (luring the progress of the measure under our notice. The scientific branches of the army were not open t o competition of even a modified character. Whatever you hav e gained under the order in Council is so much clear gain to the principle which we a lvocate, and you will gain something more. Although practically the civil service was open to competition after the pledge given by the Govertuaent of 1853, yet it was not until the present year that the pledge was embodied in an Act of Parliament and received the sanction of the Legislature. I thinkhon. gentlemen who object to this amendment, do not quite uuderstand the advance that has been made in this respect. We have for the first time declared that a Par ' liamentary title shall be given to executive appointments. Th:it is a new principle, which has not hitherto prevailed in this country. That principle you have extended to the civil service. Lot me say, in passing, that when you have once admitted the principle and laid down a rule to give a Parlieruentary title to one class of offices it is very difficult to draw a distinction that will limit its ap plication to the civil service only. I think, therefore, that the advocates of the competitive system have gained largely already. With respect to the military service, it is simply placed upon the same footing as was the ciuil service five years ago, when competition was esta blished by order in Council. Lookin g at that circum stance, believing that whether you regar it as a matter of practice or of principle, seeing that the principle of a Parliamentary title to executive appointments has already been recognised by both houses, it seems to me that the difference between that which we proposed and that which the other house has a +opted is so small that, considering upon how many points they have given way, and that this neither in pr ,ctice nor theory can be called a large modifi cation of the principle of competition, I think we should be justified in accepting the amendments of the House of Lords. (Hear, hear.) competitive system to a e s c t l e i il red was n o t suc h as t o Mr. CO N ING HAM, amidst impati en t cr i es of "Divide," er in which the Horse Gs d y e us e at l e a r m( r i e s d , opf l: bas p i r ftv e gn f e e a r gw e ea n . s c e aTt o ihm f e t ni h ni induce him to agree in increasing the patronage already possessed by the Court. He hoped the house would insist upon having the clause as it was sent to th e o th er h ouse , amid would not yield to an attempt to comp e l th em t o ! g i ve up what they considered to be an import an t p r i nc i p l e . The hou divide dupon the questi on t h at it should not insistupon disagreeing with the L or d s ' amen d ment upon clause 34, respecting the scientific branches of the army, when there appeared— Ayes Noes Majority The Lords' amendment was therefore adopted. The amendment of the Lords altering the period within which notice of instructions sent out to India to commence hostilities should be given to Parliament from one to three months was agreed to. This terminated the proceedings in the Government of India Bill ss far as this house is concernerl. LOCAL GOVERNMENT BILL. The Lords amendments in this bill were then taken into consideration. 93 Mr. COWPER said a few words iron ol:o of the Lords' amendments upon this b':!, tthieit were agreed to. DiLITISH COLUSIBIA. BILL. . . The Lord's amendments to this bill were agreed to. Tho Lords' amendments on the Cornwall Submarine Mines Bill wore agreed to. The Lords' amendments to the Clerks of Petty Sessions (Ireland) ill were agreed to. The Lords' amendments to the Friendly Societies Act Amendment Bill were also agreed to. The Lords' amendments to the Art-Union Indemnity B'll were also agreed to. DIVORCE AND MATRIMONIAL CAUSES BILL. The Lards' amendments to this bill were agreed to, with the exception of one clause which introduced a new fen tare in the bill, which was intended to be merely a con di:nonce bill. NEW . WRITS BILL. The Lords' amentimenis to the Now Writs Bill - wore agreed to. JUDO- tIENTS (IRELAND) lITLE, The Lords' amendments to this bill w , To agreed to. CIVIL BILLS (IRELAND) BILL. The Lords' amendments to this bill were also agreed te. RESOLUTION ON THE INDEPENDENCE OF MEMBERS. Mr. SCH'N'EMER wished to call the attention of the house to the resolution passed on the Pel of Jere) last, which was quite impracticable, and could not be carried into effect. He fully agreed with the spirit of the resolution, and ha I voted fur it; lint the language wag so wile as to inclu le cases which had net been contemplated by the noble lord (Lord Hotham) who had moved it. Especially it had not been intended to apply to the case of the Attor ney and Solicitor-General, but yet the langunee embrac d both of them. These officers were paid, not by salaries, but by fees, and it could not be the intention of the house that they should be deprived of their fees. But since the resolution had been passed more than one member of the long robe ha I supported measures in reference to which he had at one time or another received a fee. The reselution would even apply to the bon, member for Whitby (Mr. Stephenson). Years ago that hon. member had been asked to give his advice on the main drainage of the metropolis ; and in this session he had lent his assistance to carry out a bill embodying his views. In the present state of the house, and at this period of the session, he (Mr. Schneider) felt that he would not be doing his duty if he did more than call the attention of the house to the subject ; but be hoped that some member of the Government would take the matter into his consideration, and would next session bring forward some resolutions which would really carry out the intention of the noble lord (Lord netball), while it should be free from the objections he bad stated. He was afraid that several hon. members bad had input ationscast upon them in consequence of the language of the resolution. The noble lord who had moved it, if he had been present, would, he felt confident, have corroborated his statement, that he had never intended to cast imputations upon hon. members. In conclusion, he would move that the terms of the resolution should be read. The resolution having been read, Mr. WARREN read a letter from Lord Hotham, who had been unavoidably detained at a public meeting in the North of England. He stated that he had not overlooked the cases of the Attorney and Solicitor-General, for their position in respect to fees received for Government busi ness was not more objectionable than the case of a Minister paid by salary. Ho (Hr. Warren) hoped that the G vernment would not rashly interfeee wi' the resolution to which the house 1).1 , 1 lei a ely come. The A.TTOetNEY-GENERAL regretted that the hon. member for Norwich (Mr. Schneider) had barn prevented from calling the attention of the house at an earlier period to the terms of the resolution. The resolution w as o ne o f great importance , - not so much as affecting the i n ter es t s o f members of the bar who were also members of the house, but as affecting the independence of every member of Par liament, and the right of every "subject of the realm to consult what counsel he pleased. If the resolution only went to prevent any member from receiving any pecuniary reward for advocatingor supporting a measure in the house, no one could possibly object to it, for su c h con d uc t wou ld he highly unconstitutional and illegal. He must express his thanks to the hon. member for Norwich for having pri vately informed him that a report had been circulated, from which it appeared that it had really been supposed that he (the Attorney-General) had accepted a largo sum of money, 50It/., from some Indian prince or gentleman, with a view to the advocacy of his interests in this house. He should have thought that it was unnecessary to allude to the re port—(hear) —but it afforded him the opportunity of say ing that a large sum of money had been offered to him by an individual, who thought that by so doing ho could ob tain his support to his interests. He informed that gentle man, who was not any of the Princes of Oude, nor be longed to the principality of Surat, that any proceeding of the kind was not only inconsistent with propriety, and contrary to the habits of the house, but that any one was exposed to personal danger who made such an offer. But as to the resolution itself, he would at once assure hoe. gentlemen that it was his intention, at the very earliest period of next session, to call the attention of the house to the terms of it, and to its effect on the practice of the bar, for he believed that it was really imagined that the reso lution would apply not only to prohibit the acceptance of a remuneration fur what was done in the house, but also to prevent any member of the bar from giving his opinion on any case which might result ultimately in proceedings befere the house. It was perfec ly obvious that if the resolution of the noble lord were to be' held to apply to the case of a counsel at the bar who had given au opinion in a case which might come before Parliament, then the necessary and inevitable result we'll 1 he that any individual who bad sustained a grievous wrong would be deprived of the moans of consulting some of the most eminent counsel—for they were generally members of that house—as to such wrong, lest upon the opinion given by an hon. and learned gentleman a re sort to Parliament should be found necessary. Without going further, really this question involved such large and in e P l ° l o r t h a s n e t o consideratioentirens conviction t that he would t that evenu resolution e to u assure there th noble lord was entirely superfluous and unnecessary. ([Tear) While. on the ono hand, he should be among the first to stand forth to secure the dignity, and purity, and the character of the bar from eproach or suspicion, he cer tainly should feel it his duty at an early period next ses sion to bring the whole subject under the consideration of the house, and he was sure the members of the profession would be perfectly contented with any decision the house might come to. &tr. INGHAM was glad to hear the intention expressed by the hon. and learned gentleman, that he would have some general inquiry on the subject next session. The sutject then dropped. M t TRIHONIAL CAUSES AMENDMENT ACT. Tho SPEAKER announced that the Lor:ls dui not agree with the disagreements of the Commons to the amendments of their lordships to this bill. ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE. PENSION TO SIR JOHN INGLIS, K.C.B. Upon the motion that the house at its rising adjourn until Monday at half past one o'clock, Col. NOR,TH begged to ask the President of the Board of Conti& whether it was intended, either by her Majesty's Government or the East India Company, to propose tLe grant of a pension to Major-Gen. Sir J. Eardley Wilmot Inglie, K C. 8., for his distinguished s e rv i ces i n th e d e f ence of theitesidency at Lucknow. The hon. and gallant mem ber referred to the different despatches which had been-re ceived from India, speaking in the highest terms of praise of Sir John Inglis,'end of the manner in which be had per formed the arduous duties devolving on him in his glorious defence of Lucknow. The three most illustrious feats of arms of late years had been the defence of Kars, the defence of Lucknow, and its relief by the glorious Havelock ; and although the officers who had principally distinguished themselves had been honoured and rewarded, the position of General Inglis was worse now than when he had been Lieut.-Colonel. In the same way Col. Lake had been pecuniarily ruined by his promotion. lie therefore hoped that their case which ho had laid before the house would receive that consideration from her Majesty's Government which the bravery, the intrepidity, and the patient endurance of Gen. Inglis entitled it to. Sir M. FARQUHAR thanked the gallant member for the eloquent manner in which he had brought the question before the house. Nothing could have been mnro bravo or self-sacrificing than the conduct of Gen. Inglis in defend ing Lucknow in the midst of difficulties and privations, which hal been described to him in glowing language by his son, who hail been present during the siege, and who, although ho had been struck down by fever, and thereby prevented taking that active part in arms which it was his wish to do, still he was able to appreciate what had been done by others, and bore the most willing testimony to the many soldierlike qualities of Gen. Inglis, to very young offleer4 who h cl b. , en more forhinafel ularet, than their hrothor office)Th as br^v - t. rank sometim.' Sir W. CODRI . ' GTON commended the eolsle lerd for ferweril no particular i osta ce, and W:ti ,, f opinion that the establishstnsnt of anether class which would intro duce the subalterns iuto the Renee order as their superior officers. would ba of greet ssrvice in cementing the diffe rent classes of of tiers. The Victoria Cross seemed to ha , • been originally intended for the lower orders; but fa• what reason he could not say, it had now been coufineil to quite a different class, so thin new it was esteemed above the Or der of the Bath. It might have its disadvantages, however, in merrins , the unity an d com pl e t eness o f t h e line, by inducing careers to single themselves out on per ticnlar occneions. Gen. PEEL said, with regard to the motion of his bon, friend behind him (Mr. Macartney), he could assure him that every one of the recommendations made by the Trea sury, as to taking the accounts in the War Department, had been ordered to be carried into effect. With regard to his remarks on the War Department generally, he might have contented himself with assuring him that so far as ru him lay he would do his duty in connection with his once, if his bin. friend had not referred to names of individuals connected with that department before his tiros. Hie hon. friend had alluded to Major Martin, paymaster at Wool wich, having risen from the ranks. Weil, then, he (Gen. Peel) said so much the more honour to him. There was no extraordinary increase in the number of temporary clerks, and there was this advantage, they could be reduced at once. During the last two months the increase of letters, compared with the corresponding amount of two months last yenr, was 14,000, cud of letters written 15,800. The clerks were employed 14 hours a day. He could assure the house that the War Department was a ve. we rived. As to the remarks of his noble friend (Lord Elcho) he thought the house ought to take no part whatever in the control and regulation of the army, which were far better left to the or dinary military authorities. He did not think the com parison of his noble friend between a brevet major and a post-captain at all a suitable or appropriate one. As to the Order of the Bath, to which his noble friend adverted, ho believed the Victoria Cross was intended as a-substitute for the Order of the Bath, because the statutes of the latter did not allow of a greater number than 550. He gave no opinion as to the Vioioria Cross Order. No one knew better its effect than the hon. en .1 pliant gentleman opposite (General Codrington), who had addressed the bduse. The consent of her Majesty had been obtained to extend the Victoria Cross to such cases as that of the Sneak Sands, It would be his pleasing ritiss to ads ise the ex tension of such r ev arcs of valour as far as possible, for he esule assure the house that no man had the honour or wel fare of the array at heart more than he had. (Cheers.) After a few words from Sir W. FRASER, Sir D. NORREYS wished to ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, before final determination on the scale to be adopted in future, he would cause inquiry to be mode, firstly, as to the expan e ; and, secondly, as tre the correctness of the system of redUction by photography now practised by the Ordnance Department for forming the 6-inch and 1 inch maps? Lord STANLEY was informed, upon the authority of those who bad the conduct of the survey, that the reduc tions were perfectly accurate, and that a saving of 650 per cent. would be effected by the use of photography. He believed that no further inquiry would be neeessa ry. With respect to the question of the gallant officer, he could only ray that the services of General Inglis were as much appreciated by the Government as by the people of this country. RAILWAY AND CANAL LEGISLATION. Mr. RICH rose to bring under the notice of the house th - areport from the select committee on railway and canal legislation. The motion for adjournment to Monday was then agmed ;o. The house adjourned at half-past 11 o'clock. PARLIAMENTARY DIVISION. HOUSE OF COMMONS—JULY 30. CIOVERNMENT OF INDIA (No. 3) BILL. Lords' reasons for insisting on certain of their amendments considered :—Motion made, and question put, "That this house doth not insist on its disagreement to the amendment math by the Lords in page 11, line 6 :"—The house divided : Ayes, 9S; Noes, 53. Adams, W. IL Gard, R. Pennant, Col. E. Adderley, C. B. Gray, Captain Percy, J. Arbuthnott, Gen. H. Hall, General John Philippa. J. Raillle, 11. Hamilton, G. A. Pugh, D. Bernard, W. Hill, Lord E. Rawii - son, Sir H. Beach, W. Johnstone, U. B. Robertson, P. Beceroft, G. Kell', Sir F. Roll, J. Beresford, Rt. Hn. W. Kerrison, Sir E. Rashout, Capt. G. Blakemore, T. Enightley, It. Sclater, George flotlleld, B. Lefroy, Anthony Smith, Sir t'. Brady, J. Lennox, Lord 11. G. Spooner, R. Mrandey-Moore, J. Lopes. Sir M. Stanley, Lord Cairns, H. Lowther, Col. H. C. Stephenson, Robert Carnac, Sir J. R. Lyali, George Sturt, N. Cartwright, 11. Lytton, Sir E. Sykes, Colonel Cecil, Lord .R. Macartney, George Vansittart, G. Cobbett, J. M. Dialing, Richard Vansittart, W. Codrington, Gat. Mangles, R. D. Verner, Sir W. Coke, W. Manners, Lord J. Waddington, H. Corry, H. T. L. March, Earl of Walcott, Admiral. Disraeli, B. Maxwell, J. Walpole. S. Drummond, H. Miles, W. Walsh, Sir J. Do Cane, C. Mil er, Taverner Warren, S. Ouke, Sir J. Mills, Arthur , Whiteside, J. Du Pre, C.l Mowbray, J. R. Whitmore, IL East, Sir J. Mullings, J. lt. Wickham, 11. Elcho, Lord Naas, Lord Williams, Colonel Eltuley, Viscount Newport, Viscount Willoughby, J. Farquhar, Sir M. Nisbet, It. P. Wynn, S r W. Fitzgerald, W. R. S. North, Colonel Yorke, E. Forrester, Col. Palmerston, Viscount Franklyn, G. Patten, Col. Frazer, Sir W. Paull, Henry Freestun, Colonel Peel, Gen. TELLES.% Jolliffe, Sir W. Taylor, Colonel AR HY CONTRACTS. Mr. MACARTNEY called the attention of the house to the paper No. 346 (Army Account 18.76-7), hi which ap peared the Report of the Commissioners of Audit, con demning the system of keeping and furbishing the accounts of army receipts and expenditure in the War Department, with the correspondence between the said commissioners, the Treasury, and Department ; also, to the Paper No. 424 (Establishment of the Consolidated War Department), with the view of pressing the appointment of professional actuaries to examine and arrange the army accounts for 1856, 1857, and 1558-9, so as to enable the house to ascer tain the correct army expenditure previous to the next session of Parliament, when forming estimates for the year 1859-60 ; and further, to place the civil establishment under the Minister at War upon a better and more efficient system than existed at present. The hon. member also complained of the great increase of temporary clerks in these departments, who received a larger salary than the regular permanent clerks. He trusted the subject would during the recess occupy the attention of the Government. Mr. G. A. HAMILTON said it was the intention of the Government to direct their attention to the mode of keep ing the public accounts in accordance with the report of the committee upon public moneys which sat two years ago, and they hoped they would be able during the recess to devise considerable improvements in the mode of keep ing the accounts now adopted. PROMOTION IN THE ARNIY.—ORDER OF THE BATH. Lord ELM'S°, in rising to call attention to the army regulation which requires an officer to have served six years before he can be promoted to the rank of major; and fur ther, to call attention to the limitation of the Or.ler of the Bath to field officers, in consequence of which there are now no means of rewarding an officer below that rank in the British army, raid that, seeing the state of the house —there not being 20 members present—he would condense the observations he bad to make as much as possible. The regulation which required six year.' service bef ire promo tion to the rank of major was doubtless necessary for se curing the efficiency of the service. lie thought it faulty, however, in the present regulations, that there was no power of modifying them in time of war, as was done in the French and Sardinian armies, thus enabling the State to enjoy the advantage of having officers of the highest grade at a comparatively early period of life. In the navy it was possible for a man to attain the rank of post captain at the ago of 2', whereas in the army. supposing to have entered at 18, he could not attain the rank of major under 24. He trusted the Government would con sider the propriety of shortening this term in time of war. With regard to the Order of the Beth, he thought that distinction ought not to be confined to field officers only, but might with great advantage be extended to alt grades in the army. Merit and not rank ought to be the qualifi cation for an order of merit. The Duke of Wellington wrote, in 18 [5, when the reconstruction of the Order of the Bath was under cons ! o ration, to the Puke of York, stating that he did not coribur in the limitation of the order to field officers, and proposing certain modifications for including captains and other officers, and the Duke of Yerk, in reply, wrote that he con curred in principle with the Duke of Wellington, but that he was prevented carrying out his suggestions in consequence of the difficulty of making individual selec tions. He (Lord Elcho) suggested also that the statutes of the Victoria Orderof Merit should be remodelled, m en ti on . ing that, according to them, Sir J. Inglis was not entitled to the Victoria Cross, while a berubsrdier who threw fl 6 tun that b. rerto:i';ilt partotveirdetdhotsheatoefvethlye shell out of a parapet would r eceive it. Tie sue •,L these statutes should Order of St. George of Russia, ofileer should be inserted in the list who, when in the com mand of troops , and animating them by his own examp l e, ca pturing a ship, a battery, or any place held by the enemy, or stood a siege without surrendering. He was anxious that the Secretary for War should consider the subject, and be hoped he would, if he thought it consistent with discipline and the efficiency of the service, relax the rule with regard to the Order of the Bath, and institute a fourth bar, or extend the third b ar t o all (dicers. Sir F. MITII said he was sure the junior officers were much indebted to the noble lord for having advocated their cause. No doubt the order would be very accept able; hut, perhaps, as the Duke of Wellington had been i n power subsequently to 1815, and done nothing in the matter, that might show that there were objections to it. peejlaps, too, it might create heartburnings if it were given NOES-53. Ayrton, A. Grenfeli, Charles W. Rothschild, Baron Bagshaw, Robert Griffith, C. Schneider, Henry Baines, lit. lion. M. Hodgson, William Smith, A. Buckley, Geu.; Holland, E. Somerville, Sir W. Butler, C. S. Ingham, R. Stapleton, John Clifford, Col. Kinnaird, A. Stuart, Co:onel Cox, W. Langton, il. G. Thompson, General Craufurd, E. IL J. I ocko. John Thornely, T. Duff. M. Macarthy, Alex, Tarner,.l. A. Evans, Sir Do Lacy Morris,. 1). Watkins, Col. Forster, Charles Napier, Sir C. Williams, W. Fox. W. J. Nicoll, D. Williams, S:r W. 4:al - nett, William Norreys, Sir D. Willy.uns, E. Gibson, Milner O'Donoghoc, The Wilson, J. Gilpin, C. Paget, C. Woods, Henry Glyn, G. ;Pigott, F. Graham, Sir J. Pinney, Col. Greer, Samuel Rich, El. Gregson, Samuel Roebuck, J. A. TELLERS. White, Tames_ Coninibain, W. PAIRS ON. THE GOVERNMENT OF INDIA BILL. For Against. For. Against. Sir J Bailey Mr It. Crawford Mr Knatchbull Mr Thornhill Sir C. Burrell Mr W. Tite Capt. Mangles Sir J. C. Jervoise Mr Falk. Mr Cardwell S.r R. Carden Mr Ilatehell From the London Gazette of Last Night. ORDEII, OF THE BATH. Erratum in the London, Gazette of Tuesday, the 27th of July. In the list of Officers appointed Companions in the Military Division of the Order of the Bath, for Lieute nant-Colonel James Peter Robinson, Military Train, read Lieutenant-Colonel James Peter Rob3rtson, Mi!itary Train. PASSPORTS FOREIGN-OFFICE, JULY 30. Persona requiring Passports from the Foreign-office must address their letters to the Chief Clerk of the Foreign-office, London, with the word " Passport" con spicuously written upon the cover : if sent addressed to the Secretary of State much timo is lost. PASSPORTS. FOREIGN-OFFICE, JULY 30. Notice is hereby givt n, that the Earl of Malmesbury has appointed the following persons to be Agents for the issue of Foreign-office Passports, at the undermentioned places : Birmiogliam Dover Sam.. el Metcalfe Latham, Esq. Devonport Folkestone Hull John England, E3q. Liverpool Lowestoft. Neweastle•on-Tyne ... Edward Glynn, Esq. Newhaven F. G. Turner, Esq, ___ _ Southampton W. J. Le Fetivre,'Esq. Weymouth Richard Hare, Esq. WAR-OFFICE, PALL-MALL, JULY 30. 45th Regiment of Foot—Major-General Sir F1u.,11 Henry Rose, G.C.EL. to be Colonel, vice General Thomas Bra bazon Aylmer, deceased. WAR-OFFICE, PALL-MALL, JULY 30. 2d Regiment of Life Guards—Hamilton Sandford Paken ham, Gent., to be Cornet and Sub-Lieutenant, by pur chase, vice Curninghamo, promoted. let Dragoons—George Lake Harvey, Gent., to be Cornet, without purchase: Handley, who retires ; Acti ng Campbell Ross to be Lien a tenant, by purchase„ vice 2d Dragoons —Cornet GeorgeH Cnda Th orn ton Hart to be Veterin ar y Veterinary . Surgeon Surgeon, Smith, who retires upon half-p ev . 3d Light Dragoons --- Cornet vice °Pia ns— oC niet George Shippen Willes, from the 13th Light Dragoons, to be Cornet, vice J o h n Unett. r • rmeied. 6th Dragoons—Theo dore William Rathbone, Ge n t., t o be ; purchase,vice Neill, promoted Assistan t Cornet by b er t Graves Burton, from the Staff, to be R o b er t Assistant -Surgeon; 10th Light Dragoons—Cornet Thomas J ames Wil l i am Bulkelay, from the 6th Dragoons, to be Cornet, vice Lord R. D. Kerr, promoted. 12th Light Dragoons—Troop-Sergeant-Major Joseph De vonsher Jackson, from the r.th Light Dragoons, to be Cornet, without purchase, vice Swindley, promoted. 16th Light Dragoons—Lieut. Hugh D'Aroy P. Burnell to be Captain, by purchase, vice Burnand, who retires ; Cornet Arthur Gooch, from the 17th Light Dragoons, to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Burnell, promoted. Military Train - Captain Thomas Rice Hamilton, from the 3d Foot, to be Captain, vice Cater, who exchanges. To be Lieutenants, without purchase—Ensign and Adju tant John Sweeny, vice Dawson, killed in action ; En sign Henry Keogh; Ensign Ruben Hill Powell. To be Ensigns, without purchase—Cornet Henry David' James Macleod, from half-pay of .the late Land Transport Corps, vice Briggs, promoted; Cornet Andrew Munro, from half-pay of the late Land Transport Corps, vice Keogh, promoted; Cornet Wm. Laughton, from half-pay of the late Land rransport Corps, vice Pow e ll, p romo ted ; the promotion of Ensi gn and Adjutant J. Sweeney, as stated in the Gazette of the 16th July, 1858, has been cancelled. Grenadier Guards—Captain William Rale to belnstructor of Musketry, in succession to the Hon. J. Dormer, re moved to the 74th Fcot. Ist Regiment of Foot —To be Lientennnt., by purchase— Ensign Cha'. A. .1 - z)g.%ti, %ieo White, promoted; Ensign W.o. John Shanty, vice Curtois, promoted. 3d Foot—Captain Wm. Edmund Cater, from the Military Train, to be Captain, vice Hamilton, who exchanges. 4th Foot—Ensign Chas. Edward Billing to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Davies, who has retired ; Ensign Ed ward Chinn to be Instructor of Musketry. sth Foot—Quartermaster Edward Henry Drake, from a Depot Battalion, to be Quartermaster, vice Webster, who retires upon half-pay; Assistant-Surgeon Peter Frederick Newland, from the Staff, to be Assistant- Surgeon. 6th Foot—Captain Charles Parker Catty to be Major, by purchase, vice Brevet Lieutenant-Colonel Lowndes, who retires. To be Ensigns, by purchas e —Thomas ent Neild, Gent., vice D. C. Campbell, promoted ; William Grant, Gent., vice Neal, promoted. 7th Foot—Lieut. A. Bennett to be Captain, without pur chase, vice Coney, deceased ; Ensign W. Browne to be Lieutenant, without purchase, vice Bennett ; Enstgn F. Waller to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Browne, _ _ ..._____ whose promotion by purchase on the 4th June, 1858, hr:‘ , been e-ine, Peri. i•;th E,ut--E, si gn J. R. W. Black to be Li eu t enan t , without, iiii,,h,,,e. . 9th Foot - -Captain Patrick M earthy. from half-pay, Unat tached, to be Cvtaiii, without purchase ; Lieutenant Henry if. Berestm l i to b., Captain, by purchase, vice who retires ; E ns i gn James Lewis Bradshaw to Carthy, b- Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Beresfcnd.' loth F,,0t,--Brivet-L)enteuant;Colonel H. B. Longdeii to be Lieut.-Colonet, without i srehase, vice Brevet-Colonel - Sir T. H. Fr.nka, K. 0.8., promoted to the sank of Major-General ; Br4vet-Aisj,.r H. R. Nerinan to 7 be Major, without purchase, vice Longden ; Lieut: J. I; S. AlJersey to be Captain, withemt purchase, viceNormati. Ilt.h F, - ..0t. -To be Ensigns, by purchase—Davil Halliday, Gent., vice Corrie, promoted ; Hugh Montil-Tolleryvine Smyth, promoted. 14th Foot—Captain .T..liackay M'Kenzie, f rot h th e 7 0th Foot, to be Captain, vice do Qtrincey, who exchanges; Lieut. Henry Theodora Vetnede to be Captain, by put chase' vice Bond, who retires ; Lieut. James And erson to be Instructor of Musketry. 17th Foot—Capt..in Charles Edward Johns, from the 38th Foot, to be Captain, vice M`Nair, who exchanges. I.st. Fuot—John Dudley Edwar Crosse ' Gent., to be En sign, by purchase, vi c e G ran t; promoted. ' 2 3d - Foot.—Ensign Charles James Wrench to be Lieu tenant, without purchase. vice H. J. Richards, deceased ; Ensign Harry Charles Wiles to be Lieutenant, without purchase, vice Wrench, whose promotion, 'on the 4th June, 1858, has been cancelled; Quartermaster-Sergeant James Clayton to be Ensign, without purchase, vice Willes, promoted. 27th Foot.—Assistant-Surgeon Alexstider Stevenson Rus sell, M.D., from the Staff, to be Assistant Surgednt vies Trevan, appointed to the Staff. 28th Foot.—Tlao third Christian name of Ensign Ands mutt', appointed by purchase on the 13th July, 1853, is Frederick. 31st boot.— lsaac Parsons, Gent., to be Ensign, by pur chase, vice Leeson, promoted. 37th Foot—Henry Dollen, Gent., to be Ensign, by pin.- chase, vice Bell, deceased. 38th Foot - -Captain George Augustus •M‘Naii, from the 17th Foot, to be Captain, vice Johns, who exchanges. 47th Foot— The undermentioned Officers have been super seded, being absent without leave :—Ensign Crosbie Kidd and Ensign Edmund Gray. 531 Foot--EnQi:_rn Wil , zai I auiu Barr to be Lieutenant, Nvitiluut purchase, vice Munro, deceased. 70th Foot--Captain Paul F. de Quincy, from the 14th Foot, to be Captain, vice M`Ktrizie, who exchanges; ' Ensign Henry Leake, from the 4tth Foot, to be Lieut. without purchase, vice Crawley, promoted to the 15th Foot ; C. H. Prior, Gent., to bs Ensign, without' pur chase, vice Hinton, promoted. . . 73d Foot--St. John D. Galway, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Sharp, promoted. 89th Foot—Lieut. B. S. Robinson to be Captain, without purchase, vice Thorp, promoted. , 9 et Foot—William Garuul Edwards, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Tingcombe, promoted. Rifle Brigade—Hugh William Reid, Gent., to be Ensign, without purchase. 2d West In !in Regiment—Lieutenant James Franklin to be Instructor'of Musketry. Gold Coast Artillery Corps —John James -Mathew, Gent., to be Ensign, without purchase, vice Gwillim, whoseip printment, as stated in the Gazstte of Jane 22, has been cancelled. DEPOT BATTALION. Cornet 11. P.. Brooks, from half-pay of the late Land Transport Corps, to be Quartermaster, vi ce Drake, ap pointed to the sth Foot. TO BS INSTRUCTORS OF ItIUSETRY. Captain Thomas Biggs, 60th Foot, in succession to Cap tain Cunningham°, resigned. Captain Edward William Bray, 83d Foot. HOSPITAL STAFF. Assistant-Surgeon George Pais, from the _Royal Ar tillery, to be Staff-Surgeon of the Secon I Class, vice Will. cocks, deceased. Assistant-Surgeon Thomas Stephenson Teevan, from the 27th Foot, to be Assistant-Surgeoa to the Forces,"viee Russell, appointed to the Staff. Christopher Thompson, M. 8., to be Acting Assistant- Surgeon, Staff. Assistant-Surgeon 'Walter Johnstone bas been per mitted to resign his commission. The surname of the Assistant-Surgeon appointed in the Gazette of 23d inst. is Devlin, and not Dalviu, as previously stAcd. DREVEL • The undermentioned prornotiois to take place, comm• quent on the decease of the following Generals : Sir R. Darling, died 2,1 April, 1858. it T. Hawker, died 13th June, l >558. ... T. 13. Ayliner:died 18th July, 1858. General Sir Colin G.C.13 , the senior super. numerary of his rank, to be placed on the fixed establish ment of Generals. Major-General Benjamin Orlando Jones, being supernu meraiy of his rank, to be paced on the fixed establishment of Major Generals. Lieutenant-Colonel G. W. Francklyn, Depot Bettelion, to be Colonel. Major James Cockburn, Ernattache3, Staff-Officor of Pensioners, to be Lieutenant-Colonel. Captain James Holt Freeth, Royal Engineers, to be Major and Brevet-Lieutenant-Colonel R. H. R. Howard Vyso, of the Royal Regiment of Horse Guards, having completed three years' actual service in the rank of Lieu tenant-Colonel, to be promoted to be Colonel in the Army, under the Royal Warrant of Oct. 6,-1854. Quartermaster Robert Webster, late of the sth Foot, having retired upon half-pay, to have the honorary rank of Captain, agreeably to the provisions of the Royal Warrant of 17th Dec., 1855. . - The undermentioned Gentlemen Cadets of the East India Company's service, to have the local anl temporary rank of Lieut., whilst doing duty at the Royal ErLinear Estab lishment at Chatham :—William Maxwell Campbell, ames Henry Robert Cruickshank ; George W. Oldham, Charles Wm. logleby Harrison, Frederick Jervis Horne, Louis D'Aguilar Jackson, Henry Wathen Watson, Beres ford Lovett; Gray Townsend Skipwith, Henry .M`Veagh Crichton, Edward Andrew Trevor, Ross Thompson, Philip Sa nuel Mai indio, and Alexander Thomas Fraser. WAR-OFFICE, PALL-MALL, JULY 30. DIEMOBNNDUII. The undermentioned Officers of the Militia, having ob tained first class certificates at the School of Musketry at Ilythe, have been appointed by his Rnyal Highness the General Commanding-in-Chief, with the concurrence of the Secretary of State for War, to act as Instructors of Musketry to the Regiments to which they belong: Lieutenant F. F. R. M. Morgan, Bedford. Lieutenant James Breft Byora, 2d Cheshire. Lieutenant James Sisson Cooper, North Lincoln. Lieutenant William E. Smith, Nottingham. Lieutenant Carrington Jones, Ist Stafford. Lieutenant Isaac De L. Wilson, 2d Stafford. Lieutenant Frank Paul Matthews, Sussex. Lieutenant Elijah Littlewool, Ring's Own Light Infantry. _ _ Lieutenant John George S. Willcocks, 3d West York. Lieutenant Robert Pollok, 2d Lanark. Lieutenant William Magee Hunter, Antrim. Lieutenant John Quarry, Not th Cork. Captain Robert Patterson Elliot, Donegal. Lieutenant John Hooker Vowel!, Dublin City. Lieutenant Frederick Tottenham, Fermanagh. ADMIRALTY, July 29. • Corps of Royal Marines—Second Lieutenant Wm. Wink. worth Alloutt to be First Lieutenant, vice George Gill, to the Half-pay Liet. COMMISSIONS SIGNED BY LORD-LIEUTENANTS. County of Essex--Wm. Bewley Teruel', Esq., to be Deputy Lieutenant; John Wardlaw, Esq., to be Deputy Lieutenant ; Sir Bridges Powell Henniker, Bart., to be Deputy Lieutenant; Gordon Maynard Ives, Esq.; to be Deputy Lieutenant. County of Sussex—Light Infantry Battalion of the i i n d i e,uro Regimentntyeente Yeomanry 0 2 0 Edward - Royal Sussex Militia—Lieut. John Kincaid Smith to be Captain, vice Bates, resigned ; Ensign William Orme to be Lieutenant, vice Smith, .protn t: o n t .al e in d tit ; :_v E i n wee si i g virl e lisa r nin ar eo g o i ae t iy e t r : Malvcisie Dickenson to be Lieutenant, resigned ; Ensign John Cbar t l , es nvr l ley V e i e l ß li a a rvo m aolk L rsy e b i a e nG r ke to iorr b es e ig L n ie e u di tenant, vice James John Pickford, resigned. sk ß ill o? G al en C t u ., m t b o e b rl e a ment of Militiag.-e-FMaoirr.- fantry Regi b a I T vr The Earl taKe n oftn.t, to Chester g h bh e a s t t e e l i on . meted. gan Dabymple Treberne, Gent., to be Lieutenant, vice Waldo, dre signed. Ist Royal Lancashire Militia—David Blair Lockhart, Esq., to be Captain, vice Douglas Hamilton, appointed to the South Down Militia, BANKRUPTS. Henry Courteen, innkeeper, Park End, Gloucestershire, to surrender Auz. 10 and Sept. 13, at the Bristol District Court. Henry Fletcher, woollen cloth manufacturer, Painswick, Gloucester, Aug. 10 and Sept. 13, at eleven, at the Bristol District Court. James Nicholls, watchmaker , Red.rnth, Cornwall, A ug . 11 and Sept. 16 at one, at the Exeter District Court,. Thomas Leak, extractor, Cross Banks, Batley; York. shire, Ang. 13 and Sept. 10, at eleven, at the Leeds Die. trict Court. George Parker, copper merchant, Kirgtson-npon-Hull, Aug. 18 and Sept. 15, at twelve, in the Town Hall, King. ston-u pon-Hul 1. William Pearce and Lewis Pearce, coachmakers, Salle. bury, Lith Aug. at twelve, and Sept. JO. at heir-past eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Edouard Simon, wine merchant, Mark-lane, Aug. 12, at half-past twelve, and Sept, 10, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Charles Frederick Willson, grocer, 14, Minster-street, Reading, Aug. 11, at one, and Sept. 13, at two, at the Court of Banks uptcy. David Johns, grocer, Shrewsbury, Aug. 11 and 30, at half-past eleven, at the Birmingham District Court. Robert Busby, builder, late of Birmingham, August 12 an d Sept. 9. at eleven, at the Birmingham District Court. Samuel Vincent, butcher, Long Sutton, August 12 and 31, at half-past ten, at the Shirehall, Nottingham. John Rogers, ship broker, Newport, Aug. 10, and Sept, 14, at eleven, at the Bristol District Court. Charles Hale Jessop, aeedsman, Cheltenham, Aug. 10, and Sept. 13, at eleven, at the Bristol District Court. Thomas Thumwood, innkeeper, Farnham, Surrey, Aug. 12, at half-past eleven, and Sept. 9, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Gustav Scheurrnann, music seller, Newgate-street, City. Au g . 12, at half-past eleven, and Sept. 10, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Chaees Carter,- sack and coal merchant. Towor-hill , London, Aug. 12, at one, and Sept. 9, at half-past,.eleywo at the Court of Bankruptcy. Edwi n land eale Sept. 3,' a t one. rm l anb a 51•( 3, d er ; 1 a M Aug. l S 6iigtihbTitevoNs. John Kinnison, grocer, - Dundee. John Knox Stuart, late builder, Glasgow. H. and J. Dickie, heddle manufacturers, Glasgow. Thomas Gibb and Sob, commission agents, Edinburgh. John Campbell Sweeney, pertmanteau maker, Glasgow. James Young, ship master, Greenock. 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