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This was exatftle what 'he proposed, and! • ' he 'was inclined to think,. that the. Honourable and' Learned Gentleman opposite •(theAethiney-Gene-• ral) had not made/ such progress in the suit yet, and that no evidence had yet been ••produced in that cause . which ,would be detrimental to the Noble Lord if produeed .on rt a pe the Imachtnent. With rega r d to the latter pa "the Noble Lord's.' Speech, in which he appealed to the feelings of the House, he was as much alive as any Hon. Gen tleinan to the force of it. He was not insensible to the fepiings of the Noble Lord's • family or relatives, or to the degraded state in - which the Roble. Lord tad represented himself 2S•placed. lie Mt . Unfeigned torney anci regret on the occasion • but was it con sistent with.his public duty 'to `shrink from the pro measures tecution of measures which he deemed essential to . ' Alle public welf are i n obedience to such feelings ? The situationet the .Noble Lord was the same as that of 11 , 11 great public delinquents. As to the defence which . the Noble Lord had thought proper to ?a - take, so far . gas he from thinking it a justification, that, in his !'ittioa, it fUrnished- additional • documents, aggra !tiee even thoselouse- of parts of hi s e as e on w hi c h t h e. Commons h a d a l ready voted cond6mita :!n. The Nobl e L ord has said that.he Was already • 144131 /ed. How ? . The Resolutions were voted . 4 ,Aillit him, and on the same tight a Motion made c 4.41-.A. ddiess for his removal froth office, which theasl44 ; %Teed to. The Noble L o rd t h en res i gne d , t e e ~ i ne went Ho nourable Gentleman oppostte setae*- lil-1111 to withdraw himself from the vote of the te e l. when noticd had been given of a Moe , le t i e Llr 'an Address for • his - removal efiorta His , ii,ereis . Counejls, the Right Honourable Get- ' 0 79 6 again withdrew him from the vengeance of licae . se.' • So that it was not in l i jote of that Rees e , censequence but of the advice of the pi t!! elion. Gentlentan, though he had before )4 .441 S intention not to give such advice to His a lt 3 t7 that the Nobl Lord had b6en struck out teoirc.,epeeti., trait i':. . .. e , et cc Privy Counttllers. The additional ces that had now Come out With resect licitlr: Teeth Report rendered it imMssible for t he 1 eteein:Qt' to adopt the Impeachment or . some ~i, Cod prosecutio n . prosecution. It might b e . said, that the ••,. e el n ' ee t u. e had .no power to Investigate the ques ', s uch ". Participation, and, he admitted, that no ••. 1, PoeTer was eae no intent' c delegated to them, and that they , ter tarn i .10a 01. going into it. But the mat hit . e. oefore them incidentally, so as to warrant p erti I'l• charging upon Lord Melville, that he did %)e tciltl'ea;ete, an d it would have been a dereliaion int o ier `",,,Loent in such a case not to have gone _e v e ! : , :to reduce. the question to the analogy Soe c i l t i : lva te.life : suppose a Gentleman employed a Jr to Setd© the books of his Agent, and not Ns Peetiri , 0 • need not inquire very tutor he Is le integrity of the Agent told the Soli- • reents closely into the ac e• the e 7 he was convinced of th e nun's honesty; the acc oo teltor should discover traces of. corruption in to he : li nts. would lie not be bound to report them ?ally ,e_nelPloyer? So, the Committee, when inciden theeo,e acquainted with these circumetancea, felt eeely es b and N ei °end to report them to .the House ; ' en -the laid beforethe Ilot.ie what co tese x , •y are he y • V4 a to . be taken hut .by Impeachment , tee N tFre yet but bn the brink and verge of the *.:overies tl ' • judge tf wi,..,. Lit would be mede. They might ee teet ' 4l was to C ome by what had been *already out • ,• • e i.. 1 of to , as a giant's statute might •be ju eec y the , parine of his - nails . - ailed on the elete e , e ~ ~ 0 tee e,o.)eierefore,, to vote for the Impeachment of 0n iiii le l ler '4ord, o A n. three ells/in& grounds eeet se ti il hief i T l N'ef his conniverice at a breach, and 14 Partici )r•eac'h of duty. 2d. On the ground of en hisliapetion - with Mr. Trotter; and finther, a rei tas „ V,!lig obtained, 'under frautulent pretexts, e . - le e e r e 'or certain suits Of Money -Clue tiom the at, t. Ad y ii. -11 ac a c o eeeacoe. As to the first, - the - -ye t i ie ti ,_ rernons has- eiedared that the Noble 'th e N4b ?!,en , guiity of an evasion o f the law; wnicie . b "tael, o es, -1- dord denied, admitting,' however, the veinteeee, duty, though not a gross one: • But- he treeeit.i4that Noble Lord had committed a • 1 " take 1 of toeaw• and of his duty. • • 1 le should thieeeiv. 'P the tinee of the House by noticing the tote```"'s Mme Naele L o d • th e Resomuone, .. e. l e d , . r on ~ " apeeeeeeaireCtly to the grounds ot the. charge. Ne e 4 first, that Mr . Trotter had an unli ke • P° wer of d ee • • - - • e ;'lets to res w a y the money voteu for Ileavy I t a eee time atneArit front the Bank. He drew Pa lu t e e 4 ,' a million; and. Might draw, as he per ; this wli . tim es - %'41 dot*, all that was in the Bank. e: ke el , "'one The gr and ' - t Lord charges , against A . ft,ecrio, tha t 17 , . . • , ~..' f or the eetetie etnteving at this prafteco he sot= . i t whe n one ,. y to be carried beyond hia-tbatroul, „.• berlieh t be ° ' o 4eed in the Bank of -Mesars.Coutts, ,iew hat w as '_,PPheri be them as they pleased.— ;.oleeetteel"V tei4h - cs , by theleport of the Seleit. 1 1 ' • 14 given t rif t the power-which Lord Melville e ls lett er °, "de. Tiatter had been delegated by lo whe el °n I ' 4 Icing to Scotland to Mr. Wilson, e , e Ile left Wolk dr f -:" cent toei . a ts ; so that neither haV tontimee °ver 'the • other the•praelice *might !ee l eee thsoilee all , ,e ~ le e „le da tteers , e the telerks in the Officee lee _ ' 3 epetiel i" . the public treasury multiplied.— , C-ih Otlie e. ( SutY, he was afraid, was too corn eeettilt it he eh r• had fotmerly stated,. that •he tier, l ea,oeese ie te r m 'er/per, Under thy: present cire iiit e klariee t „ , •gut Honourable Gentleman ' tl ' Ol l eel •".e t o Mr, Wilson. in the 'same ' %e l i "‘ he h e e e 1 k e er , Ide But having seen that Gen llteeie • e tee eiej,el • t- . Committee, he thought it tetre4•Lee•to him to • , lieu ' , eel Nee/Re bah that his demeanour wee • Gus 1,..f 4 ci, Ile t;ji' -411 d - that; accurding to what he i otiii.4 hut flu;laved very well in the business-of e 3. Whee l ee, e he had. refused to answer clues , ea, e t . , eneet lead to di scover of • le a- Ireitt n 1 01111,4 . . a tecovery ma ers b'ee l Ater iii . te e I,`. e(. °l.et. - he. repeated, that it was e :tk.ti,„ _ . - .-4ight Hou. r'-' - 1 .xcinicniall ' to continue 41 ar A"'a'lle pi g ' lleb i , iteteb„ snout- -te, ''hen such conduCt•ought to ,lay!c. T he e te ereent on the part of the ti e , ' l4 -hed 1 .lord .`"°hle had said that till this "G -tied lilt hae ea . , , . h'ar'd 4 her a „ e . . . opportunity of being heard on e • $4114t 11. Had 'h ' ' leeei t 'll'en ° se e e , f .. 4 .' 1 . ..- e not , been. cell ' e e j i le.,i en, le ?re the Cornmissibriera of Navel . t t le t '': i e he 6 e o , j e Nnehed t o • be, heard befoee- the h ° eke. `` llaVe- writt e •the lee' t T u i )i ‘'hel l th' el . 1 . 1 to Seenker • o r , _. e, / 1 ,, , ee , enth Report hatl.been• laid on • lte7iriee., ,„:'7to • to the ' Commissioners Who et7t r_ te lei irt`etneyeleclinede haYinginede their kett:ltl ,tit,e te e !'''''uches cif fain leigisleture.• • Did Nelett ee w the Speeker tb ~ lie I N eeee ,, ~ sites e e n . 0.--- "z e;clr.h.usnteeeeette laid on the . TVs`* as eentaiaiisq a full justification. No charge Of participa,tion had! been made before this'oecaeiou, and 'the defence of the Loid had strengthens •ed the inapressioneso his mind. The Noble • Lord: had stated, that the Bill:for replating :the ,machi nery of the :Office was less perte& the.4•the Array 'Pay Office Bill: But if it had not beep adequate to its purpOse, -who was to' blame ? If he neglecied to brinis in A Bill for the arnendment of his Bill when he filled it dele&ive, 'had. not the Public cause to ;muse the Nroble Lord of inattention to his duty , With regard to Mr. Trotter, through WhOse'agency • the .whole ;business .had been concluded, had the Noble Lord represented him as a person not .to be credited ? It had been stated by. the Noble Lord, that the Money had been drawn in small sums from the Rink e and yet, in the absence 'of Mr. Trotter; in Scotland,. 40,0001. had been clrawn by Mr.,Wil e son, 'and the-person by whose . desini that sum had been drawn stated the drafts to have been for small sums. The:Noble Lord had made en extraordinary assertion relative to the, participation of Mr-Trotter, which he accounted for front his being a Scotchman, nemely,,that as it was customary in Scotland' for per sons lodging money in the Bank to: be alloWed some - share of the interest arising. upon it, he .derived the sante advantage from the money he lodged at, Ceutts. 'No such pratlice 'obtained in thiS country ; but . the Noble •Lord and Mr. Trotter had lived long.enough in England to know some allowances was . made in extraordinary transa&ions leas ing laege balances in a Banker's hands, but' none at all in small sums. The Noble Lord had said, that he never saw Mr. Trotter's accounts with Messrs. Courts till he saW the Report, and if Mr. Trot!,er had deceived Lord Melville in this instance,... whatever may have be,!:). the merit of hii suggestions which led to the Bills for the better prote&ine of the Property and Mims of Seamen, all of Whiai were good, he onght'not to have been continued in his se- tuation. The Noble Lord had said, that if 'Mr. • Trotter Mad been asked in this. or that manner, he would have answered fully. But the fa& was, that Mr. Trotter had been asked in a variety of ways whether Lord Melville had participated,. to which he would give no answer. As to the excuse of the mixed account, was any man so credulous as to believe that the proportions might not have ',been immediately ascertained, of the different Funds.con &tinning it, by simple subtraaion ? If Mr. Trotter's book and Messrs. Coutts's book had been lost, yet Messrs. Coutts remembering the aggregate sum due to Mr. Trotter to have been 500,0001. though they might not recollectthe items that made, up that ag gregate, Mr. Trotter, by inquiring of the different Sub-accomptants their reapeEtive • balances, might . . have. ascertained how. mach of that aggregate was Pnblic and how-much was Private. The whole of Mr. Trotter's funds must have been Public Money; , or derived from the misaPplication of Public Money. He had been recommended to Lord Melville, . and appointed to a place with a salaky of 5001. a year ; and it was imposaible with stichmeaneliecould have had•money to lend to such amount, ,if not derived from the tine of the 'Public Money. The Noble Lord had said, that the Money bad been ,draWn foal the Bank only for Navy Seriiices: if that were the case, it' might have been safer to keep it in a Private Bank than in the hands of Accountants. But then why not ; amend the Bill ?--e , The Noble Lord had revived an argument which he was stir priSed to hear, because it had 'been abandoned by. every one that neither, less had accrued to Abe PUblic, } nor *lily occurred iteany, Payment, and he was therefore ashamed to take up the thne off' the House by considering'stiai an argument.. The Ad, when brought in by the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Pitt), had been represented as calculated to remedy all the defects. in the office, and the person ss•lto was to succeed to the office as the most fit for it. Before heshauld examine Whether any l'earti cular *loss had been sustained by . the Public, or whether the Noble Lord- had participated with Mr. Trotter, he wished to advert- to one , &cum , etanee ; the increase of eatery to Lord ,Melville of 10001. per armiure ,of in consideration of lodg ing the Navy Service Money in the Beak of Eng land, and giving up,* use of it, was for 16 years lost to the Public, as 'the money had not been left. in the Bank: There was another circumstance also ,which he wished' to advert 46 betbre he came to consider the quettiOn of participation. The Noble ; Lord had said that, there were only two persons,. and Mx'. Trotter, Who were acquainted with the transiEtiolis 7 Was the. Noble Lord igho 'rant that Mt. Trotter had refused 'to answer .before the Commissioners of Naval Inquiry ? That he had been several times examined bestore the Committee, and refused to answer whether Mr. Tierney lied• participated ; and then after three days considera tion.he had returned with a written statement, ad mitting, , that he had only advanced from 10 to 20,0001. to Lord Melville, .and that Mr. Tierney, as. everybody knew, had derived no profit from the use Of tee Public Money . ? He had ,aftersvards repeated the satne information before the Selea Committee, which the Noble Lord had not, contradiaed. .As he had proceeded, by degrees in his evidence, there was feAson to thinkthat When properly roused he would give More. From what had appeared before the Sc-' lea Committee there were additional grounds to suspet the Noble itord , Of participati on. Was not , his confidence' in Mr. Trotter, and the refusal of Trotter , to =wet', a strong prestimptioe of participa tion ? • And was that preaumption lessened by the ha bitual mode of expression of the Noble Lord ? He was more than ever inclined tosuspe& that the Noble Lord had participated.. It was a presuniptiPn too, that as Mr. Trotter could have none but Public, Money, and ',Ord Mellville borrowed from him, be had pir ticipated. When 'his Lordship had declared, that he had not knowingly participaned, he was not aware that a. balance of 5;0001; bad remained in his hands from his 'Ex-treasurership, which had not been 'paid' till within these few weeks. Another strong pre surnptiOn Was, that his Lords b ip..had never mention ed the. pradtice in the Office to the - CoMtnissioi r 3 of Accounts seeti, nor, the Committee Of fi nances in 170. Another strong presuMption arose front destrnaion of Books - of Accounts, winch . did not belong to the Parties' only, but were else the. Property: of the Public; and would have been . preserved if not destroyed for the purpose of de feating ineniry. His Lordship had stated in his let- , ter to the Conentiesi6ners, that he had been in the, occasional habit of destroying useless 'vipers old yC . t what. appeared-to-bean inculsisteticy on t l i . e.fa c e el it,' he informed them,, that- ,had uo ClO4llll • for . Itakini ont tlie,Ateount they desired. Amongst the aegravations, that: had been brought to fight in the S'eled Committee, - it had appeared, that larger advances than were hefere kribtvat had been inada to - his Lordship without intereste;and*et his Lordship had unblusisingty told - ` thorn, - that - ha wwld net ear reveal. the application ;of Some of these - advances, — ;Before the Seled . Committee, Mr. 'Vrotter had cunfeased that the Books had - hi'xn destroyed, in Con thrinity to a rehear; executed bet Ween hini and Lord Melville. • The Noble' Lord had said Much of this release, bUt his suspicion had been strengthened by it. It was not 'till he had been two years out of Oace, thatthe thought struck Mr. TrOtter, that such a re lease .was 'necessary: In the' inter. al betwen the appointment of the - Coannaiisinnnt Navel Inquiry, and the.signing of the release on .tht isth February, a precept had been issued by the .Commissioner's of Inquiry-on the 17th Jan. for an Account of the ba lances in,the Navy Office. The Noble Lord had denied 'having given any , instructions for preparing such a deed, but SpottisaVoed had been. Agent for both parties, and knew 'what course the nature of their transactions required. In the common' sense view of it, be agreed, that the Clause - for the' de strtidion . of Papers *as nonsensical, yet after the release was executed, the sympathetic conflagration took place here and in Scotland. • The Noble Lord • had stated tlielClanse to be in the common forth, but he appealed to the Hon. and Learned. Gentleman , opposite, and to everyman - acquainted with it, whe ther it was so. They had examined Mr.' Spottis . woocland Mr. Robinson; his partner, and they knew nothing of - , such Clauses. Mr. limes,. a Scotch . Gentleman s whom they had-also examined, stated; that a Ciause.tbr giving up Voueliers was usual -in Scorland, but never far th e ir destration. eWas riot that overstrained anxiety to conceal the trans adion a - presumption of guilt ? :These Were the cite curnstanceithat had appeared before the Sele6t,Com rnittee to strengthen the presumption of his parti cipation. There was another new circumstence also,'whiCh had come out before that 'Committee,, and afforded a strong prekimption of his Lordship's guilt. He wits the mord - diaposed to state this cir cumstance as it' came out in evidence befine the, Committee, inasmuch ' as it„ex.onerated the Right Hon. Gentlemen :opposite (the Chancellor of. the Exchequer), from any knoWledge Of private etnolu— meat having , been derived from the use of. Public Money.—Butit vitas therefore the greater aggrava tion of the guilt of Lord Melville, who had been that Right Hon. Gentleman's Brother Minister, who had been the confidential friend of that . Right 'Hon. Gentleman, to whom the Administration of the Fi nances of the. Country was intrusted,- Mid who, ne . .yertheless, had'concealcd frOut him this criminal prediee, which that Right Hon. Gentleman had de clared,* Wonkfhave put a stop to if he knew it. 'The Noble 4 - rd had not told that Right hon. Gentle man as he had .done; the commissioners, that the Money was drawu and lodged at a Private Banker's' for safety, hut that hebelieved the Drafts were not increased beyond what the. Service required. He 'could not but think, however, that that Right Hon. Gentleman had been deficient in duty,. in not best ing inquired further into the business. He had too much confidence in the Noble Lord; and had been betrayed by hiS liiend. What had Lord Harruwby said, when asked whether he knew of any. abuses in the Office that he had - nct inquired, because the `Office had be e n regulated by various Ads of Parlia ment brcnight in by his immediate Predecessor, and having been 'a Member of the Committee 'in 1797, he had no reason to suppose any abuses existed. The Rightllunourable Gentleman (Mr. Pitt) had said before thee Committee, that he did 4114 think Lard Melville adverted to the Ad, or thought the praCtice illegal. The No:. ble Lord had adVerted to the intlemity of Mr. Trot ter's nienrOry, and that was one reason why the documents ought to have bean presarved., The Right Honourable Gentleman 'hinisell; who was one of the 'brightest. stars 'amongst thoSe whom 'talents and..oratory rendered eminent ip the world, he whose prodigiola powers of recolleition could coniniend transactions said events Of distant periods, and bring them to bear on.the . question 'immediate - - ly under diseussidn; even he, .in time of needh could not draw upon his memory for occurrences that had taken place within a. few years back. - He could notrecollea having made' ante written memoran dna) a the Conversation.. These circumstances, and particularly this new circumstance, aggravated the - guilt; end if on a trial theetaluble Lord were to challenge every . Jurynian, and seled hii own twelve men, it would ..he impossible for them poko con viate him. The eVidence W 45 circumstantial, but ,-there -were no cireurnstahces that might pot be oVer fhrewn .hy a thee. :He did not. call f o r convidieu on' circ4l.l*atice; but that the, ,Noble Lord should he put -upon his trial, when his Lordship would have an oppottuility,4 disproving tlios;e faits which ' he would pledge himself to sea, emtiate. The Honourable Gentleman then pnaeee, ei comment eiu that,. part of his Lord dip's ee whieh related to the stuns Mr, Troth': times advance- to Jahn, ae , . that. their assertions „were eopo..aa . . t t that was another reason for seudine He On adverted 'to: the sums , isii Mr. ' Tweiiate . ,and contended that seer account ee given wiiere or when the sums were received, te'eeliere. or when they were paid. It was perfeddy unexplained by .Lord Melville to what. Itubiic Purpose - he had applied the Public, Money that had. been front' time to time advanced te liim.-11 - e had Wit been . in any high situation in . His Majesty's Govern rnenf in t78 : 6, when Mr. Douglas was 'Paymas ter, that would afford him the pretext tiaea6serting that he had applied the money to confidential ser vices; let he will not revwl-eehe does not otter to state it even to a Secret ComMittee. It he would state it et en . to e s Jury of,flonuur, caimposed.of his Right Hon.. Friend (Mr. Pitt), the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Windham), who had formerly been lo office, and any other. honournble man, and they should acqiiailit the lionse - that they Were. sat..sfied with hii expleuation, he tots would be satisfied, , If the Noble Lord had any friend in the lips°, if he had any relation ; hit latl tho'c belong to per 'ems iu high Otwitions, would apply to the tiou'ie to do aWey all that . had been done, if it would interfere with further prciceedingse arid.-to put him on .is trial. What did the ` Noble; Lord ,He says 1 um - innoceet, but do not try me: and he addA, that panerity will do hint jartier'..---'rhe Hon. Member Laving thus gone through tWo parts of his charge in . rach a 'Manner as - he trusted would induce every ruan of haeow; and evdrY" man of reeling, an ji4tice 'to Lerd and to the House, .to put . him on his trial. He - came .tiext to consider the third part, relative to the acquittances obtained under false preter.ti for 24,0n01. duo from Mr. Adam Jellieoe. Ha% ing dwelt for sometime on this topic, the Honoura;.le Gentletrian 'continued • contending that Lord ;NCI vile had not been punished. Fie felt it to be duty to call on the House of Commons not to 'eon.- via., but to put him on-his trial, that. if grtiitty he right be punished, or if 'innocent he might be at, "iquitted. .It had been said that_this was not a den for engaging in the. trial of - delinquents, Whcz, tti.! exertions of. all classes Were called for in . the •de fence of the State. But the fault was with th, public delinquents where guilt rendered such trial • necessary. lie should not propose the articles of Impeachment in 'the drat instance; but-a shir t :le...Re solution; which, being agreed to, he should prop -:se the articles.' It had been said that, the trial by linß peachment was tedious, but this was not always so. In the ease of Lord Maccley.tield only LI i. days had elapsed . between the Motion for Impeachment, and . the pronouncing of sentence. Aa. to the ;it ,a subject of this serious nature, that ought nx. to t.c considered,. heavily burdened as the\i:ountri, 'W,AI at present. If it were not too poor to be ro!A):.J, - it ought not *to be deemed too poor to 'render it justice. In . stich.a cause the money wolild be well spent It would convince. the - wolid, 'either on the one hand * that, men of the gite:ltest consequence this Country were not out of the reach of ttif. 1;;;;., or. on the other, 'that we were anxious to 'give. sties') men every opportunity ofjuitifYink their - cortdu.:4, and proving their inuoc49.w of the chargys'ilddileed against them. Mr. 'Whitbread concluded with oh., serving, that he thought it his duty to move, and the , duty of the House to concur in the ,Motion, " That Henry Lord Visiount Melville be inipcao/wd fOr high' crimes and misdemeanours." . - Mr.. BOND, after expressing his , agreettient iii opinion with the Huai. Gentleman, that some fiire Aber steps should be taken in this affair, declared his dissent from him 'in the mode which he proposed to pursue -; to Which : he .should th ere f ore . of f er an 'Amendment. The proceedings 'of the Huttee .in this business .seemed to have become somewhat.- ' seubarrassed, and with the. lea v e . of the' fleuse he 'old take a short review of thien.---Witen the . en. Gentleman first brought f orwar d hi s M otion Ora Censure of the condo& of L or d M e l v ille , h e hlrel voted against it, because he consider e d i t as pr e, t : mature, and that it was not founded on a knowledge cif all the circumstances of the case. The Motion however for Censure had been carried; ' The next .step was the appointmeett of .a Selea CeMmittee to investigate closely the allegetions of the renth Report. . Restrictions were imposed on ihat CZ.psu Mitteue satisfa6tory, no doubt, to those Who pro .. posed them, but quite the reverse to him. The ques tion that then aline to be discussed was, whether a civil er a criminal proeecutism should be instituted? Resolutions of . Censure had already been gassed against Lord MelVillee He could not egree with those who asserted, that this was no punishment: of the'Noble Lord; he should think himself wanting in respeet. to the dignity of the .House did he agree with them;' for his part,, he should consider the ex•. presSed disapprobation of the Housceas are rsf the greateatealamities that could befal him. After this, Loid Melville resigned his high situation as First Lord. of the Admiralty; and here again he must differ ftona those who asserted that thisivaa not the necessary effect of the Vote of Censure. The aitiak e ing off of the Noble Lord's name frein the List of thd Privy Council was unquesticnably the effea.Of that vote. . Under these circumstances', . feeliug that, this punishment was in itself severe, and being satisfied that ifthe ends of justice %vete satisfied, themoat le nient mode should beadopted for that porpoae, lie sups ported the Motion fora civil proce:is, because that was the .milder measure. The question now was, Is there not new matter sutlicieut to warrant a different mode of procedure from that originally adopteo ? iie contended, that the eircurnstpees recently diseiosbd are not only new, but in a much higher degree criminating than any that bad hitherto appeared., They proved decidedly the participation of Lord Melville in the prChts,made by his Agent. In the first place the 10,0001 which Los.l Melville iivowed, to have been expended in the Secret Service. ofSeots land, and which he declared, on wing questioned 'as ,to its 'application, that no human power shotild Wrench it from him. Was that a satisfa6tory an swer ? Was it not rather a Most dangerous precee dent? and who could say at what , point it might stop ? Did the Noble Lord lend this sum, or give it away ? If it Was a gift, when was it reviid? If it wets a loan, how was it possible, whatever cutia, sus and delicate circumstances might have attended the transaction at the time in 170, that so inlay' , vear4 should have elapsed without 'allowing of. ire being divulged,? At' a subsequent period there was a sum of i i,0601. unaccounted for. „Were tlmi c e not new fits ? The charge was ;lot that Lord Mel ville had l,:en a piner by any partieuler speculatiolee but that Public Money .had been generally diverted. from its: proper course, from which- he had derived adventage. It \yea proved by evident*, that money had been so diverted, , that the Noble Lcid lied laid his . hand.on it, that it had come into his posse ss i on; and. it was. bet fair to eOnClOcie, that, the thaw ire .of protititig by it 'vets established, Tneae.tWo groufids Were a sutficitit yi.,tincation of a criminal prosecu• , tibn ; hut tlirr ~ , . ';.r:.t ether 'strong fade in reseree. The. Hon. , (.*.titleinan, ad verted to , the co' iiiersati en between Mr. Pitt and laord.Melville„.after the QOltli munieetion Made to the former by Mr. Iteikese and reprobated the eundut , A of. Lord Melville, in . conceal, - ing the truth trout his Right Hon. Frieusi. it , wai impossible to blame that Wein 1 fop . Gentleman for alke.viug himself to be deceived he li;d niselythings of great importance pres'singptl 0 at.,:it.lQ4l - , and, wad ° bi lge d to o w e s i m peeir conedere:e in those with , whom he a6ted. •No IkUrie, qierefore, a:tuched to him, but, very serious blare , ! to the, :V•4ble. Lord: "Wuen he praCtised that deception be 1: - .!iewthat he Was in the Wrong, he .I(ne.i that if the real suite of Ile case was explained the person to :.viir..):o he was eddress- Mg hinyielf 'Would -have c.feEtually prevented the recurrence of such abuses. .Another strong fife; ' was the circumstances attchtiUg the exchange of releases between LoTd Melville and Mr. Trotter. The Noble Lord pretended to say, that had it been i li t is w i o n til te d re h st m t , o e c b o ee ne n ea ab l salurlydpatortth.ostplat j.h.isittrazins4!:tizloi:ll4,,